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28 February 2013 07:33 PM
In the past I have carried out extensive electrical work before you had to be "qualified" . All of it was tested. I am now about to undertake a self-build and want to do the electrical work myself. I am willing to undertake the proper training but how do I become competent to self-certificate? I would not be undertaking electrical work as a career?
Would this be "cost -effective" way of doing things?
28 February 2013 07:55 PM
You would certainly need to be deemed a COMPETANT person to carry out the testing and sign of installations.
How do you get to this. The answer seems to vary from place to place around the U.K. certainly where I reside it would be a level 3 qualification in installing and commissioning electrotechnical systems, or a very similar qualification. 17th edition wiring regulations and 2395 certified.
28 February 2013 08:15 PM
I don't think you necessary need to be 'qualified' to wire a house even these days, but there are two bits of certification to think about (presuming you're building in England or Wales) - wiring regs (BS 7671) and building regs. As you're self-building you'll be aware of building regs - part P covers electrical work, and certain bits (along with foundations, drains, etc) are notifiable to the LA (or private equivalent). You can't self-certify for part P unless you're a member of a recognised competent persons' scheme - and membership of such a scheme will cost you many hundreds of pounds for a single year (£500+). You might notice that your local builder probably won't be a member of a scheme for foundations and drains and things, but pay the LABC to inspect & certify for them. You can use exactly the same procedure for electrics - if you're lucky notfication for part P will have been done as part of your main building regs application, if you're unlucky you might need to notify it separately - for around £200 (LAs are now allowed to charge extra for electrics over and above normal notification, and usually do). So for a one-off, LA notification is probably the cheapest and easiest option.
I'm doing my own renovation (& complete rewire) at the moment - and so far at least the LABC have been rather helpful and seem willing to accept my BS 7671 certs even though I don't have any paper qualifications to wave about provided everything looks OK when I've finished.
- Andy.
01 March 2013 03:28 PM
If you want to become qualified to self certify your own electrical work under the building regulations then the cheapest and easiest way if you have some sort of engineering background is probably the Napit Just 8 route. You will find it through google.
01 March 2013 10:18 PM
Evening Gnelms,
I dont think it cost effective for you to do the courses if you arenot going to do electrical work on a regular basis.
We have worked with many self builders and we become consultants\advisors really on an hourly basis.
Any electrician can advise you and inspect and test each circuit and stage of the job.Also, your building control may charge you quite abit if they do this and not accept your certificate if you are not part of a self cert scheme thus making you pay extortionate rates for one of their preferred testers.
Books to use as ref guides are Electricians guide to the building regs,onsite guide,current regs 7671 and the Part P doctor book is superb.
This forumn has some very experienced and knowledgable people also.
Only you can decide what is best for you but good luck on your mission.
02 March 2013 01:49 PM
Many thanks to everyone for your very helpful suggestions. It has given me hope and a lot of food for thought.
It would useful if I could do me own testing before getting it "certified". Wahat would be the best equipment to buy/rent?
02 March 2013 05:04 PM
Many thanks to everyone for your very helpful suggestions. It has given me hope and a lot of food for thought.
It would useful if I could do me own testing before getting it "certified". Wahat would be the best equipment to buy/rent?
A multifunction tester may be the best option for you as it will perform all the required tests.
These cost several hundred pounds to buy so in your situation you're better off hiring one.
02 March 2013 08:28 PM
I wouldn't waste money on a tester and time to learn how to test. Do you know how to test, which test and in which order, and what the results mean? A decent local sparks would pop in every so often and test as you go. I would and have helped a couple of self builders in the past. Great getting someone else to do all the dirty work.
02 March 2013 09:25 PM
welcome to the forum.
May I point out that Andy Jewsbury is a genius who knows considerably more than his local building control. I've a notion that they may be falling at his feet because he is better than they are.
I would suggest that you talk to building control before you start anything and find out what they would accept.
Where I am they let DIY work take place so long as it is inspected and tested at the end by one of their chosen few. Those who are prepared to pay for the occasional visit during their work benefit from advice and usually obtain a satisfactory report. Those who just go ahead merrily most often have a bit to remedy before they can have the golden ticket. Only fair IMHO, we study hard to be up to date and make a living out of knowing what we know. See what your local BC have to say. Don't panic in silence and try to slip anything past anyone because it might be dangerous.
If this is a complete build then you must remember part L, which relates to energy efficiency. It is free to download on the web. They will be hot on that.
Good luck. I hope you have strong shoulders, on several levels. Ask us if you get stuck.
Edit: Andy, need someone to come and inspect it for you?
Edited: 02 March 2013 at 09:33 PM by Zs
02 March 2013 10:03 PM
As an extra gnelmes, have a look at this thread:
It was locked by the moderators (boo) because we beat the poster up, in spades.
But note the compeletely different tone used by the man who posted it, and our response to him compared to you and yours.
In terms of human nauture and only using the written word, look at how well disposed this forum is to you already. Yet your question is much the same.
I quite like it that both threads have happened in a short time span.
Oh fluke, the link doesn't work because the moderators locked the thread. You'll have to go down the list and look for one called 'Two questions, go easy please' posted by mannpaul. Enjoy.
03 March 2013 01:11 AM
The link had extra characters on the end - it should be http://www.theiet.org/forums/f...id=51146&enterthread=y
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17 March 2013 09:02 PM
I agree with Zs & Cremeegg.
As you consider yourself 'installation competent' - as many better DIYers are - the most cost effective way through the Building Regs / BS7671 reqts is to find a scheme electrician willing to verify design of the amendments to your circuits (e.g. cable sizes, discrimination, additional protection reqts, special locations) for BS7671 wiring regs compliance before you start the job, allow you to undertake the dirty work, and then return to inspect, test and issue Minor Electrical Inst Works Cert or Electrical Installation Cert (depending on nature/complexity of changes).
With appropriate drawings, dims and existing installation info, the 'before' bit can likely be done remotely via the ether and, subject to the quality of your installation work and adherence to design being up to scratch, the inspect, test and issue of certification (from your description of the works) should take a visit of no more than an hour. This will satisfy both your LABC officer in the short term, and any prospective purchaser of the property in the future.
Check out the likes of www.minorsparks.co.uk
18 March 2013 05:44 AM
Welcome to the forum
Would this be "cost -effective" way of doing things?
As others have said you don't have to be competent, it's how competent your local building control are and from my experience that can vary greatly.
As regards wiring get the 17th edition on site guide it has clear diagrams of how to install standard circuits. cable sizes and installation methods.
It's my recommendation regarding the wiring that you don't personally get building control involved at all, its all being done by a" badge"
What you do is before you start any work approach your local sparkie with a badge (because they have a badge doesn't necessarily mean that they are any more or less competent than yourself it means that they have bought the badge and possibly own some test gear)
A good place to find the badged sparkie would be the place your going to buy your wiring accessories. I personally would use Neweys or Eddies but there are others
To purchase your mats go with a list and play one off against the other to get the best price
Armed with the on site guide and the architect plans You tell the sparkie exactly what you are going to do and what you want him to do, test it, cert it and notify building control, you tell him what you are going to pay him I would think somewhere between £150 /£200
If he says no you get the yellow pages out, there are more badges than you can shake a stick at, the world and his dog has got a badge I am sure I don't have to tell your mother how to suck eggs
This is a sad indictment of the Part P system you get you house wired it gets tested and cert, complies with the current legislation and there has been minimal contact with the nuggets from the council and its cost you £200 to get through the hoop job done
Probably not most want to hear but the truth
Good luck buddy hope it goes well
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Hi Ali
Loved your blog-as always!As you know very poignant to me at the moment.I sometimes wish Rebecca was younger at least I knew where she was then and she was ok.I find it strange when we drive past her infants school and see how small the children are, it's hard to believe she was ever that small-and innocent!It seems like yesterday.She and my Mother were very close and she hung onto everything my Mother said!I've actually been to the cemetery this morning as my Mother would have been celebrating her Birthday this Sunday-have to say I had a few words with her!!
Looking at you photo's isn't it interesting how fashions come back around?
Hope you're well and will keep you updated!!
Take care
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When they asked me to write about Mother's Day (this Sunday 14th March), I have to be honest and say that it's incredibly difficult to try and encapsulate almost 50 years of memories of someone who is not only responsible for me being here, but has guided me and supported me through some of the hardest of life's lessons.
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Different garden, some years later with my Dad's Mum and my Mum (photo left). Note the positioning of my hands!!! Awkward or what? And as my Mum pointed out to me… why would Nana have her handbag with her in her own garden? Who knows?
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However you spend Mothers Day, whether you've ever had children or not, simply by being here, someone gave birth to you. Let's celebrate that. My love to you, Ali xx
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February 19, 2010 at 4:23 pm -
Hi Ali
February 19, 2010 at 5:20 pm -
I owe Mum more than I could ever pay back for all the times she stayed with me when I was in hospital for months on end as a baby. Meanwhile Dad was at home looking after my elder brother, who was only a toddler himself. Now, 41 years later, me and my elder brother are Uncles to our younger brother's two children. It would be three, but his first daughter was sadly Stillborn two years ago. Mum and Dad retired to Spain in 2003, and I'd say that my relationship with them has improved, because it's forced me to live my life in a more responsible way, knowing they can't just come and fix things like they used to.
I hope your children appreciate their Mum as much as we do – and they buy you something nice!
Chris xx
February 19, 2010 at 6:29 pm -
HI Alison
I agree with you parents are so precious, and there is always certain memory's that stick. Both are in ill heatlh hate seeing them like that, but i go everyday and do what i can she would do the same for me and has over the years. When you are younger you always think they are nagging but as you get older you realize it was good advice, i can hear myself with laura hope she does'nt think im a NAG she always say's im the best mam in the world (I DO TRY) SURPOSE WE ALL DO. I too wish she was small again i would be younger and have no aches pains.hope arm is getting better take care.
love best wishes.
dorothy xxx
February 19, 2010 at 8:46 pm -
HI Alison
I was so touched by your words about your Mum and it made me think a lot about my own mum – although every day I do think of her at some point, whether it is a word or a scent or a joke which reminds me. I lost my mum about 17 years ago and it was specially hard because she brought me up on her own, which was unusual at that time. I am an only one, so we were very close. I am now blessed with three children and understand what she meant when she used to say "just wait till you have your own children, you'll know what I mean". Like you I have two sons and a daughter, all grown into fantastic people, so mother's day is always bitter sweet for me, but memories always stay. All the best to you and your family.
Morag xx
February 20, 2010 at 9:56 am -
Well done Alison, I agree your Mum is a treasure and I am looking forward to visiting her and Joe in a fortnight. To think she and I were at school together all those years ago, then busy friends when we both had our families small, and never thought we would still be friends in our 70's. Lots of love to you and your family, Daph xxxx
February 20, 2010 at 1:28 pm -
Hi, Alison. So sorry to hear about the discomfort with your elbow. Thank goodness, the source of the problem was discovered and I now wish you better very soon. Must admit that Mother's Day makes me rather sad. My own darling mother suffers from Alzheimer's and has not spoken to my sister or myself for the past seven years. However, like you, I find it just great to remember all the fun times with Mum and, believe you me, she was such a joker who loved and lived life to the full. Take care for now, Breda.
February 20, 2010 at 3:36 pm -
Hi Ali,
I really enjoyed your story,unfortunatly I lost my Mum just before Christmas so Mothers Day this year is going to be hard.
But you have reminded me of my childhood and happier times, so thank you for that, we are all so busy these days we take things for granted we dont always remember to tell our loved ones how special they are so we should all make Mothers Day special.
Hope your elbow gets better soon.
February 20, 2010 at 10:50 pm -
Dear Alison, what a beautiful piece you've written, I started reading it out to Bex, our older Daughter who's home for the weekend, and had to stop because your words meant that I couldn't speak. I totally agre with you about the influences that determine your style of "mothering", I've done things differently from my Mum, however, I have her standards and values. Sadly she died in 2002 and Mothering Sunday is always a bittersweet day for all of us, especially this year as it falls three days before her birthday. Her death left a huge void in my life but I have wonderful memories and I'm so very proud to have had such an outstanding person as my Mum. Love from Jo.
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February 22, 2010 at 3:45 pm -
Julie thank you for taking time out when I know things are difficult. I'm glad for Rebecca that she had that relationship with her grandmother. Sadly mum's mother died when I was 13 but I did get to spend some of my adult years with my father's parents which was lovely – getting to know about him when he was younger, and sharing games of Scrabble! They actually outlived him by a couple of years… I'm sure you miss your mum too, but I hope that you and Rebecca will draw comfort from each other on Mother's Day. The circle of life will continue I know 🙂 Take care, love Ali x
February 22, 2010 at 3:52 pm -
Chris it was lovely to hear about your family, and I really appreciate you taking time out to write to me. It sounds as though you are a very close family and have supported each other through what I can only imagine must have been desperately sad times. The fact that you maintain a long distance relationship with your mum and dad too compounds how much you all care, and I hope that whether you spend the day with her or not, you will enjoy the spirit of Mothers Day. Love Ali x
February 22, 2010 at 4:03 pm -
Dorothy, I am sorry that both your mum and dad are poorly – it must be a constant worry for you. I'm sure you are a comfort to them though, and I'm glad that you're able to get to see them every day. Just being there makes all the difference. Not only are you a lovely daughter but I'm sure as Laura says, you're the BEST mam 🙂 Certainly the little snippets of your life you written to me about make me smile, you seem to really enjoy each other. Take care and have a very happy and well deserved Mother's Day. Love Ali x
February 22, 2010 at 4:07 pm -
Dear Morag, how very sad for you to have lost your mum while I'm imagining your own children were very small. That terrible thing of needing to grieve as a child, and yet having to carry on with the adult/parental responsilities. So many things you would have wanted to share with her, and ask her advice on…but I'm sure the fact it was just you and her all those years means that all she taught you stayed with you. So glad that your did such a marvellous job bringing your own three up, and I hope that although bittersweet, your Mother's Day will be a happy one. Thank you for writing to me and do keep in touch, love Ali x
February 22, 2010 at 5:31 pm -
Ali – I'm in floods as I type this! Just reading your blog got me reaching for the tissues! Thankfully my mum is still around and will for the first time be taking a trans atlantic trip with me to New York at the beginning of March – its somewhere she has always wanted to visit and I felt it was only right to make her wish come true as she and my late dad had always done for me and my brother. My son is almost 19, and at the same university that Julia's daughter went to. He is fiercely independent (until the washing needs doing!) and when he hugs me goodbye I just want to hang on to him wishing he was three all over again – I can still still the mop of white blonde hair with scabby knees and a cheeky grin! This year he's given me US dollars to buy "something special" for my mother's day present so I'm heading for Honora! Hope the elbow is on the mend – at least you know what it is now! love Helen xx
February 22, 2010 at 9:48 pm -
And Daph, I'm sure mum's looking forward to seeing you too! I'm still in touch with around six people I went to school with, and we're all celebrating our 50th birthdays this year! No doubt we'll still be laughing over the 'good old days' well into our 70s 🙂 Lovely to hear from you, Love Ali x
February 22, 2010 at 10:01 pm -
Breda, I was so sorry to read about your mum. Such an incredibly difficult illness for all of you to have to deal with. A very dear family friend who had no children nursed her husband over 10 years and for the last year he really didn't know who she was either…she would spend all her time talking to him about their past. I think it's lovely that all your memories of your mum are such good ones, because that's who she really is… and I'm sure that there's a great deal of her personality and magic in you and your sister. My friend Jo's mum was lost to us for many years, but all the fabulous family memories are the ones that still make us smile. My love to you, and thank you for writing Breda. It seems as though this special day will be difficult for many of you. Ali xx
February 22, 2010 at 10:16 pm -
Maria, thank you writing to me about your mum. I am so sorry to hear it was so recent, and no doubt Christmas was difficult for you too… I'm glad my funny old photos brought back memories of your own childhood, and thank you for reminding all of us to cherish what we have while we have it. I'm sure your mum always knew how much she was loved. Ali xx
February 23, 2010 at 10:41 am -
Dear Jo, I so admire your courage and honesty and thank you for sharing memories of your mum. I'm sure for all she was you are, and your daughter Bex is still to be. It's funny the things that become a part of us that are so much a part of our mothers. Not just things they taught us – like how to make a bed properly with hospital corners! – but the things we learned without being told… Love to you and Bex, and thank you again for taking the time to write. It means a lot. Ali x
February 23, 2010 at 10:53 am -
Helen, I have to say I've shed a few tears myself reading yours and the other lovely replies I've had. What a wonderful thing for you to have arranged this trip to New York for your mum. Your dad would be really proud I'm sure to know that you're taking her, and how kind of your son to have gone to the trouble of getting money changed to dollars for you 🙂 I would say Honora is an excellent place to visit! I hope you both have a fabulous time. My sister and I took mum to Venice for her 70th birthday and it was a very special time for us all. Thanks for writing Helen, Love Ali x
February 23, 2010 at 11:01 am -
Dear Violet, a mum after my own heart…. and isn't it strange that so many other memories fade into insignificance, yet those of our children when they were small always stay bright….? I too loved the bath and then bedtime story routine. I managed to read at night to Jack until he was seven which I really enjoyed. Although when I was tired I'd try to skip a paragraph or two, but he knew the text off by heart, so I didn't get away with it 🙂 Glad to hear your mum is still with you and I hope that you'll have a happy mothers day however, and whoever you spend it with. Thanks for writing to me, it's much appreciated. Love Ali x
February 23, 2010 at 7:17 pm -
Hi Ali
You've made me all teary,too! You are a great mum which is why your words are so powerful!
Lady Greenwood x
February 24, 2010 at 5:31 pm -
Lady Greenwood, you are a sweetheart and a fantastic mum too 🙂 Thank you Love Lady K x x
February 24, 2010 at 7:23 pm -
Hi Ali
Thanks for your last message. It's just dawned on me that Mother's day will be a year to the date that I had my accident! Although it's been a long hard year I don't now where it's gone! It'll be a strange weekend really as it's also the anniversary that my Father passed away. Will be seeing "my wonderful and beautiful" Rebecca though!She's doing well,no other news but will keep you updated.
Have a lovely weekend,
Take care
Julie xx
February 28, 2010 at 12:57 pm -
Julie thank you for the update and I hope that by spending the day with Rebecca you'll be able to make some happy memories to replace the rather sad and troubling ones associated with that date. Take care and hope you too have a lovely weekend. Ali xxx
March 6, 2010 at 8:15 pm -
Hi Ali, what beautiful words you have written, I lost my mum 22years ago, I know we all think our Mum's are the bet in the world, but my Mum was wonderful she had nine children, and she was the best Mum in the world, I still miss her so much, This year will be so sad as our son Simon died quite suddenly the end of July last year, he was 34years old, so there will not be his Mothers day greetings this year, but I will treasure the lovely text message he sent to me on my mobile last year on Mothers Day, God bless you Ali, hope your elbow keeps on improving, lots of love, Doe XX
March 21, 2010 at 9:45 am -
Dear Doe, I have only just found what you wrote to me some weeks ago, and am so sorry that Mothers Day for you this year will I'm sure have been an incredible struggle – as not doubt most days are for you still. I imagine you were a young mum yourself when you lost your mother, and now to have to cope with losing Simon and not have her to comfort you must be so hard. That fact that you still have the text confirming how much you were loved is I hope, a comfort. Words, whether written or spoken, mean so much… I just wish there was something I could write that would help…All I would like to say is that having come from a large family, as you do, I am certain all 34 years of Simon's life will have been filled with a special love and caring. You will have learned from your mum how to make a loving family home, and that's not something all children are blessed with. To love and be loved – even when that person is no longer physically here – to me is something you carry with you for a lifetime. Stay strong Doe, and hold fast to your memories, they are yours forever. With my love, Ali


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Manchester United's ascension to the English football championship for the eighth time in 11 years seems not just inevitable but unfair.
The millions they make from winning yet again will only make it easier for them to win next year and, arguably, on and on for all eternity. It seems an unbreakable cycle of success.
Yet we should not despair at or grumble about Manchester United's apparently unassailable domination of football. It is Darwinism in action. And therein lies the hope for supporters of normal teams.
Just like the Darwinian top dog of any particular era, Sir Alex Ferguson's boys seem to have all the advantages, from the trophies to the trophy wives. The better they get, the more support they attract, the more money they make, the better still they get.
The relentless logic of that most Darwinistic of mechanisms, the market, would ensure that even if Beckham had gone abroad, United would have barely missed a beat, just as they didn't when Eric Cantona left.
Ferguson would simply have used the Beckham money to attract any other number seven he wanted, and in the new season, as United dominated the Premiership yet again, Beckham would barely have been remembered.
In sport, of all things, such a Darwinian process should be seen as natural. But even though they are so successful, Darwinism will also see to it that United will fall. It is probable that in 20 years they will be struggling in the lower divisions while some unimaginable force - Rushden & Diamonds or Hartlepool - becomes the 2020s über-brand.
Two notable "brands" share Manchester United's enviable position - and their less enviable fate. The first is the United States. The Rushden & Diamonds of global politics a few generations ago, they seem currently unbeatable. Like Manchester United, granted their championship by an unexpected Leeds win over Arsenal, the US gets the benefits of luck as well as of hard work. The easy caving in of Iraq is just one example.
Yet, like the Roman or the British Empire, we can be sure that the US era will end, and the European bloc or China could take its place. The surprisingly widespread hatred, and not just among Muslims and anti-globalisation protesters, of Starbucks and McDonald's suggests that the global public is ready to end its love affair with US culture.
America's vulnerability is also underscored by the prevalent perception that - smart as their technology, novels and comedies are - on an individual basis, alarming numbers of Americans are alarmingly stupid. This does not bode well for an eternal claim on the Premiership of civilisation.
The second brand with remarkable similarities to Manchester United is homo sapiens. How our rival species would shake their heads at the rise of this spectacularly unattractive ape. Recent nude art "happenings" only serve to re-emphasise what comically ungainly creatures we are.
Yet, since our unforeseen (albeit there was nobody to foresee it) promotion from not even the Third Division, but the Conference, of life on earth, we seem incapable of not winning the Premiership every year. Even our dressing-room squabbles - Christians, Jews and Muslims fighting in the bath, communists and capitalists scrapping in the players' tunnel and so on - seem to do nothing to prevent our inevitable, unfair championship victories.
This too will end. Just which species will relegate us to evolution's Nationwide divisions and when it will happen are not easy to imagine.
Cockroaches do not seem much of a threat at the minute, and aliens do not even have a five-a-side team yet. So a meteorite or disease is as likely to do the trick as anything. It may take a few million years rather than a couple of football seasons. But, like Manchester United, relegated we will be, soon enough.
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tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post116845978160038896..comments2016-10-16T19:42:10.986-04:00Comments on Her Bad Mother: A Pox On MeHer Bad Motherhttp://email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-1169049607766485242007-01-17T11:00:00.000-05:002007-01-17T11:00:00.000-05:00focus on the glow is a wonderful sentiment, but ha...focus on the glow is a wonderful sentiment, but hard to remember sometimes. i have gotten caught up in people's visible reactions to my daughter. it's all "hi, how you doing?" until she takes off her hat. HELLO! whatever made her lose her hair (chemo) is not contagious! get a grip. fortunately, it doesn't bother her one bit. unless someone thinks she's a boy, then look out.megachickhttps://firstname.lastname@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-1168901014386858442007-01-15T17:43:00.000-05:002007-01-15T17:43:00.000-05:00late on my commenting. Hi, anyway!late on my commenting. Hi, anyway!Bethiclaushttp://email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-1168881777359267462007-01-15T12:22:00.000-05:002007-01-15T12:22:00.000-05:00I just wandered over here.. this was an amazing po...I just wandered over here.. this was an amazing post. I really enjoyed it.

I actually had a crazy woman who doesn't like me send me a text message that said "a pox on your house." So people apparently use the terms in today's day and age. At least if you're me!

Wonderbaby is precious. People turn away from hacking children too. At least people with kids. Part of protecting your child from getting even more germs. That's just a habit for me.

But I love the conclusion that you came to about it being dangerous to take pride in the appearance of your child, to the point it becomes part of your own identity.hollihttp://email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-1168780831175989482007-01-14T08:20:00.000-05:002007-01-14T08:20:00.000-05:00Hi! From Stacy in Tampa.Hi! From Stacy in Tampa.Stacyhttps://email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-1168669840786243902007-01-13T01:30:00.000-05:002007-01-13T01:30:00.000-05:00Delurking here. Glad WonderBaby is feeling better...Delurking here. Glad WonderBaby is feeling better, though that vacation was probably less than restful.
 I understand why people are fearful of pox; varicella is an airborne disease, and toddlers aren't good at covering their mouths or washing their hands. Of course, some adults aren't either. Still sucks for email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-1168657032038810532007-01-12T21:57:00.000-05:002007-01-12T21:57:00.000-05:00I'm glad your girl is feeling better. She must hav...I'm glad your girl is feeling better. She must have been miserably unhappy with the itchiness.

Hello, I'm (the now de-lurked) Canucked-up mama. I love reading your blog - always interesting, insightful and well written.

Great post. The world would be a much better place if more people focused on the glow.Canucked-up mamahttps://email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-1168649193349530402007-01-12T19:46:00.000-05:002007-01-12T19:46:00.000-05:00I'm so glad she's feeling better.Hello! I'm Nicol...I'm so glad she's feeling better.

Hello! I'm Nicole and I'm much more than a mom. But aren't we all?Much More Than A Momhttp://email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-1168648203670796402007-01-12T19:30:00.000-05:002007-01-12T19:30:00.000-05:00Been reading for a while, but don't know if I've c...Been reading for a while, but don't know if I've commented before, so Happy De-Lurking Week to you!

And my Pumpkin's a friendly girl, too, as well as a cutie. Her favorite thing to do lately is to ask anybody who stops to chat with us, "What's your name?"Ms. Huis Herselfhttps://email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-1168646701289990722007-01-12T19:05:00.000-05:002007-01-12T19:05:00.000-05:00"Hurrah for me and fuck you"Bwahahahaha!!!! That..."Hurrah for me and fuck you"

Bwahahahaha!!!!

That's funny, and I'm glad I didn't address the pox before I read this post, speaking as a mother who had to break down and give the vaccine so her kid could get into kindergarten (I was so hoping he'd just "catch it" sometime!).

But glad WB is feeling better and I thought she was just delightful to look at with or without pox.MommyWithAttitudehttps://email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-1168632555212375832007-01-12T15:09:00.000-05:002007-01-12T15:09:00.000-05:00Delurking from Delaware!Hello and love the blog.Delurking from Delaware!

Hello and love the firstname.lastname@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-1168629189927935182007-01-12T14:13:00.000-05:002007-01-12T14:13:00.000-05:00Hi,De-lurking here. I've been reading you for awhi...Hi,

De-lurking here. I've been reading you for awhile and have a few things to say:

1) Wonderbaby is beautiful even with the pox. Even more so because her perfect little imperfect face tugs at your heartstrings.

2) I have two boys, 10 and 7. They are very different in looks and personality, but both just as beautiful. Still, they drive me nuts sometimes and in my worst moments, I think, "I don't know how anybody can think that having a baby is the greatest thing in the world. What was I thinking???" But then I remember the incredible love affair you have with your child the minute they're born. It's unlike any love you've ever experienced before, and you feel blessed to have it. I know that is how you feel and why you need to blog about it. Even after 10 sometimes frustrating years, I still feel it too. I digress. Back to their looks. They were cute babies and are adorable tweeners, but I worry about those awkward teen years. Having had acne growing up, I'm already scoping out dermatologists... Heck, a little vanity is a good thing!kathy in philadelphia, email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-1168627696780819842007-01-12T13:48:00.000-05:002007-01-12T13:48:00.000-05:00Hi HBM, no lurking here! It's me -- PunditMom! ;...Hi HBM, no lurking here! It's me -- PunditMom! ;)

Thank you for this lovely post. We are such a beauty driven society.

I usually feel free to agree with people when they tell me that R. is a beuatiful girl -- since she's adopted, she doesn't have any of my genes, so there's no subtle, self-congratulations on my part! What bothers me is those seem to be the only comments we get or, that I've noticed, adults give about children. R. (and all children) are so many other things.

I don't want R. to think she is "just" pretty, so sometimes if "we" get a compliment, I'll say something like, "Thank you, and she's a smart one (or good artist, etc.), too!" While R. beams, the speaker usually gives me a "What kind of weirdo are you" look. But I figure, what the hell -- I've just made R.'s day!PunditMomhttps://email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-1168624888025277272007-01-12T13:01:00.000-05:002007-01-12T13:01:00.000-05:00Hey! Hopped over from Life in the 'shwa.Great post...Hey! Hopped over from Life in the 'shwa.

Great post, and happy de-lurking week!velocibadgergirlhttps://firstname.lastname@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-1168620204755501462007-01-12T11:43:00.000-05:002007-01-12T11:43:00.000-05:00... I'm Denzylle in London, UK. Hi there.... I'm Denzylle in London, UK. Hi there.denzyllehttps://email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-1168615213877285372007-01-12T10:20:00.000-05:002007-01-12T10:20:00.000-05:00This is a particularly close subject to my heart a...This is a particularly close subject to my heart as I was raised with a sister who has a neurological disorder that manifests itself with both invisible symptoms in the form of cognitive delays and visible in the form of tumors on her skin.
I have always been acutely aware of how people react to outward appearances of children due to this and I know you tend toward being your own worst critic, but I don't necessarily think it's vanity. Couldn't it also be you reacting with sensitivity to those who would recoil or look away, knowing that YOUR child has a fleeting condition, while so many others have issues that they must live with every day for life? It pains me almost to a physical degree to see anyone look away from a child who has a disfigurement, however mild and I am sure it does you as well.TBhttp://email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-1168613933182429082007-01-12T09:58:00.000-05:002007-01-12T09:58:00.000-05:00I have twin boys who dont look at all alike. One ...I have twin boys who dont look at all alike. One twin has chubby cheeks, a dimple and HUGE light blue eyes - a regular Gerber baby. The other is skinny and wirey with a more angular face, and darker blue eyes - gorgeous, but not the textbook Gerber baby that his brother is. Strangers always gravitate toward Gerber-Baby and say how gorgeous he is and "Oh those eyes, that dimple. He's a charmer!" and then look at other boy and say "Oh, he's cute too, but THIS one." (gesturing back toward Gerber)
I really have to restrain myself from throttling them and holding them down to describe in great detail how thinner twin is equally gorgeous, with his twinkling dark blue eyes and mischeivious grin, the way his blonde hair curls just so and his lips are so deliciously pink and perfectly formed.
They are STRANGERS, their opinions dont matter. But oh, they do.Michelehttp://email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-1168611039205608902007-01-12T09:10:00.000-05:002007-01-12T09:10:00.000-05:00Hello! I am the person who will always think of yo...Hello! I am the person who will always think of you as "Her Bad Nipples." We'll always have San Jose (and the pasties), baybee.Mirhttp://email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-1168610497029373292007-01-12T09:01:00.000-05:002007-01-12T09:01:00.000-05:00I love it- I too have the kind of children that ar...I love it- I too have the kind of children that are the say hi to stangers until they take notice and I have had my share of times when I get pissy to the fact that an adult can just ignore the sweet smile of a child-whats up with that?!- and I have had more experiences where, on an outing- strangers stopping to talk to and adore my kids is commonplace- it warms your heart- but in a situation where adults treat a child whether with "the pox" or any other thing that may or may not be NORMAL in thier eyes- with distain just serves to enrage me- there are people and children with permanent disabilities- and to stare or scowl ( especially as an adult) makes you wonder what the hell people are thinking- (sigh) Trying to teach my 6 yr old that there are people with differences and that they are not really any different than he is- so to comment or to stare is wrong- treat them and EVERYONE you meet as you would want to be treated- how after all these years did the golden rule become archaic? If its done in innocence it's one thing but an adult should know better- and if they don't - I don't want my kids to aknowledge them either- when they are ignored- I usually look at the person (with a sweet smile) and say to my child ( fondly, with a caress of their cheek) "oh sweetie, that's not your fault that not everyone wants to smile or say hi to you, some people just don't like kids-or they are just plain rude" then I kiss my kid on the cheek and we walk on- (evil grin in place) I know its stooping to a shitty level but it makes ME feel better! P.S.I finally added you to my blogroll(yay!)reddragonsangelhttps://firstname.lastname@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-1168607729974324802007-01-12T08:15:00.000-05:002007-01-12T08:15:00.000-05:00De-lurking to say hi. I have been stopping by nea...De-lurking to say hi. I have been stopping by nearly every day, but rarely comment. Hi.

Very glad to hear that WonderBaby is feeling better.Erinhttps://email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-1168599388527631452007-01-12T05:56:00.000-05:002007-01-12T05:56:00.000-05:00What a great way to put it. We should see only th...What a great way to put it. We should see only the glow. I needed to hear that today.

Thanks for a beautiful post, as always.whymommyhttp://firstname.lastname@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-1168597544851370332007-01-12T05:25:00.000-05:002007-01-12T05:25:00.000-05:00Hi!De-lurking here, been reading your blog for the...Hi!
De-lurking here, been reading your blog for the best part of a year now. I'm glad the Wonderbaby is mending.Hhttps://email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-1168583434727502822007-01-12T01:30:00.000-05:002007-01-12T01:30:00.000-05:00I'm still cracking up at the "Hi! Cat!"I've never ...I'm still cracking up at the "Hi! Cat!"

I've never had chicken pox so it scares me. But it doesn't mean that I run at the first site of it. I bought an invis-shield device off the internet that emits a high-pitch radio frequency to prevent anything (Its powewred by crystals and beer nuts)creative-type dadhttps://firstname.lastname@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-1168582204363737452007-01-12T01:10:00.000-05:002007-01-12T01:10:00.000-05:00Hi! Wonder Baby is a cutie even with her pox. Some...Hi! Wonder Baby is a cutie even with her pox. Some people are just nuts.Awesome Momhttps://email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-1168579424274750112007-01-12T00:23:00.000-05:002007-01-12T00:23:00.000-05:00i've worked 8 years, writing poems and stories w/k...i've worked 8 years, writing poems and stories w/kids with end phase cancer, twice a week. i've wanted to punch people for their reaction to my kids when we go out on a field trip. people refuse to look at them, or stare at them. especially the kids who are somehow disfigured, with a face tumor or a missing limb.

i think a lot of that reaction is fear, of course, people unable to imagine their own loved ones in the same position, who find it so painful to see a suffering child that they ignore them. but it still enfuriates me, because my kids are old enough to notice being shunned. which isn't to say i don't have to try to look at a child sometimes, a child with a tumor the size of a baseball on her forhead. i think of the child progressing through life, of all the people he or she will encounter, of all the pain looking so different is going to engender. of dating. all those imaginings make me want to turn away.

i think what you say about vanity is profound. but i also think that your experience with "abnormality" and your discofort with your own and other peoples' reactions to it, hits on feelings that are not simply vanity either.

what a way to delurk, right?

thanks for the honesty in this post.MaGreenhttps://firstname.lastname@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-1168578353891168852007-01-12T00:05:00.000-05:002007-01-12T00:05:00.000-05:00In the spirit of delurking :)I've never commented ...In the spirit of delurking :)

I've never commented here before, but have been lurking a long time. Am a new T.O. mommy in the west end.

The issue of mommy vanity is an interesting one. I often find I tend to go in the other direction, even though I am aware that she is quite cute (in my opinion!). For some reason I find myself annoyed by the attention that my baby receives in public (she was a preemie, and is still tiny for her age). People often comment on how tiny she is and how adorable that is. I find myself thinking would you find her as cute if she wasn't so tiny? But then again perhaps it is just oversensitivity to her being born premature, and my own feelings of guilt related to her early arrival... but that is an entirely other topic.

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I have never actively offered gift certificates for several reasons, but I'm starting to revisit my conclusions, which you are welcome to debate, since I'm hardly infallible:
- I've always thought of gift certificates for personal services as "girl" things, and over 80% of my clientele is male.
- I'm a person, not an establishment – when giving a gift, most people want some kind of selection.
- The kind of massage you get a gift certificate for is generally perceived as a pampering indulgence, and that's getting frowned upon these days.
- I work from home, which is a setting that some people find strange or uncomfortable – which is not something that will occur to most gift-givers who like this environment. And there's a significant price differential if I do a housecall.
Now, I have actually sold a couple of gift certificates, though I don't even mention the option on my website. Both were for two massages. The first was purchased by a woman and her mother in Florida for her sister who lives in NYC. One of them had had Thai massage and wanted to introduce her sister to it as a Hannukah gift. I guess her mother didn't have any good gift ideas and jumped on the idea. The other was quite a cute situation – I have a regular client in a nearby law office who raves about me to his co-workers and tries to convince them to stop wasting their money at the asian rub-and-tugs. A few of them come to see me when they're in a lot of pain. One Christmas, two of them came over to buy a gift certificate for a 3rd guy (who had been to see me once or twice), and the recipient came in for his first massage within a week of getting the GC. He said it was the best gift he had gotten in several Christmases.
I've also had a few clients lately who have said they wish they could come more often, but they can only afford to indulge a few times a year. I really should have piped up about adding me to their wish list when people ask what they want for birthdays, Christmases, etc. but after giving a good session, I'm just not in sales mode. I need to change that just a tiny bit. I mean, I know massage therapists who get a bit heavy handed about scheduling your next appointment at the end of your current one, but that really wouldn't work with the last-minute nature of how most of my business happens. Besides, most appointments made more than 24 hours in advance tend to get cancelled.
So, I would love to hear from anyone about their experiences –
- Getting a massage/spa/personal services gift certificate, or
- Giving a massage/spa/personal services gift certificate, or
- Incorporating gift certificates into their own small businesses
And then starts the fun of determining Terms & Conditions…
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Heya guys!
Having thoughts on leveling herb/mining, how can i make most gold out of gather these? Smelt stuff u mine? Etc etc, or do i need alchemy/inscript or bs/JC?
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Heya guys!
Having thoughts on leveling herb/mining, how can i make most gold out of gather these? Smelt stuff u mine? Etc etc, or do i need alchemy/inscript or bs/JC?
New to this so please share all you got kisses
No gathering is horrible to make money, go crafting like scribe, jc, enchant, alch ect.
edit: oh forgot about the alchemy. use that to make flasks with your golden lotus.
hell depending on your servers economy you could even skip the whole jc part and just smelt all the ghost iron into bars to transmute into trillium.
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Hm, JC or alchemy, which makes more gold in general atm? Just want one crafting profession along with two gathering.
I had a farm Alt with Mining and Herbalism and it was pretty decent. Mining can make a Profit even without gathering by findinc certain ore and smelting it whilst Herbalism has an (involuntary?) minimum Prize Cap of 30g per Stack which is about 4g per Node, making it worth the pickup. You also sometimes find Golden Lotus which sells higher and gives you a Treasure find Buff.
I have both on an alt on some super jam packed server, just for fun. It won't make as much money as having alchemy, JC etc, but it's still decent gold. The fact that you can get a stack of whatever in under 5 minutes, and then turn around and sell it for a good amount of gold, iisn't too bad. Of course having alts with other actual professions will maximize your gold further, but if you only have those two professions, it's still fine. Basically, just look to see what is selling better, bars or ore, so you can get more gold out of selling.
So I'm sorta in the same situation where I have to make a decision regarding herbalism and mining. Basically I already have JC/Alchy on one character, and mining/herb on a druid. I'm considering dropping mining/herb on the Druid and taking up Enchanting and something else (maybe elixir mastery alchy) so I can do the shuffle from the AH. My main real concern, and what I wish to know, is if the profit from doing the shuffle from the AH directly is worth giving up farming the raw materials yourself.
Then it's a simple question of looking at what it will cost you by buying ore from the AH or what you save by gathering yourself. Time is a big factor here too. Shuffeling ore is pretty time intensive, and if you then also need to take out time to gather the ore, you may very well get strapped for time. It might in that case be better for you gold per hour to buy ore of the market and settle for a lower profit margin.
I haven't personally done any shuffeling in Mists, cause it just wasn't profitable at the start, so I have no idea what nuances or tips to give you for it at the moment outside these broad theories.
The thing with the shuffle is, every man and his dog does it (mostly because the internet is awash with gold guides recommending it), so there's a lot of competition reducing your margins. Depending on your server. You can probably still make big bucks off it but you'd need to shift a lot of ore, use all the addons etc etc. Basically if you're an enthusiast yes, if you're casually trying to make some gold, not really.
Personally I'm making a decent bit of gold each week selling tailoring bags. They still sell pretty well and there's always a market, not so much competition usually either.
Herb/Inscription can make a good amount of competitionless money. It really depends on your server prices but if herbs are around 30g, you just do the ink -> self shoulder enchant -> vendor shuffle and its a fairly considerable amount of gold for the effort put in.
Plus if you're impatient, not having to wait on AH sales/re-posting for undercuts is a huge bonus
What level are you? If you are in the leveling phase, stay away from any crafting profession. You will loose a lot of gold and gearn nothing before lvl 90.
Insctiption? Don't even try it. You only have a very small chance to sell any of your glyphs for a good price. Tailoring, blacksmithing ... You won't sell any of low lvl items.
Mining + skinning or herabalism = gold, a lot of it during leveling. When you reach 90, you can choose whatever you like.
Honestly, I think both are a lot less lucrative since MOP on most realms. Generally speaking mining is easier to start with if it is your only toon because copper ore will sell on most realms, but Silverleaf, Peacbloom and Earthroot won't sell or won't sell for very much. What is making it tougher since MOP is that Ghost Iron and most MOP herbs are so plentiful that on realms of any size level 90 miners and herbers are mining the lower level stuff because it sells for more on the AH than the MOP stuff. It makes harder and more time consuming to level those two professions or make money at below level 90
With the last miner I leveled on a PVP realm I had a hell of a time mining Thorium, Saronite and Obsidium. All the zones you farmed those ores in were full of geared 90s of the opposite faction farming those nodes. I basically got the one hit treatment over and over again. I had to buy a hell of a lot of ore just to smelt just level the profession.
Well, there are some combinations that I would recommend when it comes to moneymaking, and Herb/Mining is not one of them. If you really want one gathering profession, things I have seen work out pretty well would be:
- Herbalism / Inscription: Farm your herbs, and do the inscription shuffle (mill --> Ink of Dreams --> BOE Shoulder Enchant --> Vendor and keep the Starlight ink for BOE Shoulder enchants, DMC cards or simple AHing)
- Mining / Transmute Alchemy: This gives you the possibility to farm your DIO, smelt it, craft Trillium (which should net a nice benefit once more ppl are on the legendary questline) and craft Living Steel once a day. This might not be the best moneymaker, but it's steady income for not too much work
- Enchanting / Tailoring would be my personal favourite right now. You get all the mats while questing, levelling and doing whatever you do on a daily basis, without needing to farm stuff. This does require some knowledge of Tradeskill Master to make you a good amount of money, but once you know the basics, it's a steady income of several thousands of gold per day. Being able to disenchant the stuff you craft is a very nice bonus, both while levelling the professions and for high level enchants. Simplest way to make money right now? Buy Windwool Cloth for <1,5g each, craft the new pvp cloak, disenchant it. That way, 1 Ethereal Shard costs less than 30g. That's 150g per Sha Crystal. Now just AH those and if you can't be bothered to craft high level enchants.
Like many people said, gathering professions are not great moneymakers right now.


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Hi Bob, I didn't see this message in May when you posted it.Sorry I didn't notice and reply.
I am concerned about the dates you mention.IF Jean Baptiste married a second time to Josephte Lamy in 1751, then HOW can Marie Amablis' birthdate be 1758?I have 1751 as her birthdate from SOURCE:St. Antoine de Padua, Riviere du Loup, Louiseville, Maskinonge, Quebec, Catholic Church Registers, 16 Nov 1714 - 1785, Volume I, including records from St. Anne of Yamachiche and St. Joseph of Maskinonge.(US/CAN 971.444/L2 k2w V.1)
Can you help straighten this out for me please?Thank you so much.Here is what I have for her and her siblings:
Marie Amablis Josephte Jeanne, born either 1751 or 1758
Charles, 1744
Jean Baptiste, 1741
Michel, 1749
Louis - or is it Louise??, 1753
Marie Josephte, 1763
Marguerite, 1758
Thank you so very much for your help.
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Over the next few years, I will be responsible for a series of articles for Geography which will highlight the critical role that a geographical interpretation might contribute to current debates of global significance. The subject of the articles will relate to two parallel themes, one of which - thinking through climate change - is introduced here. The first article to explore this theme is concerned with new approaches to predicting a rise in UK sea level, and appears later in this issue. The second theme, hazard and risk, will be in launched in the Summer 2008 issue of Geography.
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Coleen Garcia not in a hurry for love-A A +A
Sunday, March 2, 2014
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"I really want to take my time. Based from what I've been through before, I just want to be sure of things. I realized that there's always time. There's no need to rush," she said.
Coleen also clarified reports that they celebrated the holidays together in New York City.
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David Chambers, a thriving agriculturist of Cobleskill N. Y., owning and occupying a well-improved farm of one hundred and sixteen acres on the Carlisle road, about three miles from the village of Cobleskill, is one of the town's most respected citizens. He was born January 11, 1837, in Carlisle, being a son of William Chambers, who was born in the same town, June 2, 1810. His paternal grandfather, David Chambers, first, was born and reared in Charlton, Saratoga County, whence he removed in 1800 to Carlisle, Schoharie County. Purchasing three hundred acres of heavily timbered land, Grandfather Chambers began the improvement of a homestead, on which he subsequently resided until his death.
William Chambers was one of a family of ten children born in the old log house which his father reared in the forest, and in common with his brothers and sister's was educated in the pioneer school of the district. Soon after attaining his majority he purchased land near the old homestead in Carlisle, and was there successfully engaged in tilling the soil until 1848. In that year he sold his property in Carlisle, and, going to Cherry Valley in Otsego County, bought a farm that he owned till his death, which occurred on April 22, 1899. He carried on general farming until 1890. From that time on he lived retired from active pursuits, at the home of one of his sons in Decatur, not far from Cherry Valley. He was a strong Republican in politics and a member of the Christian church, to which his good wife also belonged. Her maiden name was Betsey Salisbury. She was born in Carlisle, and was a daughter of James Salisbury, formerly of Albany County. She died at the age of seventy-five years. Of her eight children these six are still living: Mary, David, James, Norman, Stewart, and Elizabeth.
David Chambers completed his education at the Cherry Valley High School, and afterward, until he was twenty-three years old, assisted his father in the labors of the home farm. He then married, February 15, 1860, Catherine M. Richtmyer, daughter of Christian Richtmyer, a farmer of Cobleskill. Mr. Richtmyer was born, and he lived and died, on the farm which Mr. Chambers now occupies, and which he has managed to good purpose ever since his marriage, now thirty-nine years ago. He carries on general farming, raising principally hops and hay, although he has other crops, and pays some attention to raising sheep of the Shropshire breed. He has on his place a fine grove of maple-trees, from which he makes considerable sugar each season. The original owner of this homestead was Conrad Richtmyer, Mrs. Chambers's grandfather, who was one of the first settlers of the town, coming here with his family when his son Christian was about three years old. This son succeeded to the ownership of the paternal acres, and here reared his two children — one son, Elias, and one daughter — Mrs. Chambers being the only survivor. Mr. and Mrs. Chambers have one child, Florence. She is the wife of Adam J. Karker, and has four children — Orrin C., Blanche M., Lloyd D., and Myra A. Mr. Karker and his family reside with Mr. and Mrs. Chambers, and he assists in the management of the homestead property, although he has a fine farm of his own near by.
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[JURIST] Nepalese police arrested 50 protesters Tuesday after roughly 200 Tibetan exiles demonstrated near the country's UN headquarters in Katmandu, demanding a UN investigation into China's recent crackdown against pro-Tibet protests [BBC backgrounder]. The protesters, who were arrested after refusing to leave the site, began a hunger strike early Tuesday and were later joined by monks, forming the third demonstration this week [AP report] by Tibetan exiles against Chinese rule. Chinese state media later reported that 105 protesters in Tibet itself had surrendered to police [AP report].
The protests, which began last Monday, escalated into violence Friday as protesters attacked police vehicles, non-Tibetans migrants, and businesses. On Sunday, the Chinese government blocked Internet access [JURIST report] to the video-sharing website YouTube after videos of the recent government crackdown appeared on the site. Rights groups have criticized China for ongoing human rights violations [HRW materials] targeted at Tibetans, and many call for the total independence [advocacy website] of the currently "semi-autonomous" region. The Dalai Lama, who accused China Sunday of committing "cultural genocide" [JURIST report] in Tibet, has encouraged the protests but said he will step down [AFP report] if the violence worsens. AP has more.


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The Charlotte Hornets are selling a burger almost as big as Muggsy Bogues. Measuring a foot wide, the double-decker Hugo's Boss Burger—named after the team's mascot—has 14 burger patties, cheddar, Swiss, cheese sauce, bacon, mushrooms, pickles, lettuce, tomatoes and three buns. It weighs eight pounds, so recruit a friend to carry the fries.
Find the burger courtside at Time Warner Cable Arena for $70.
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