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DILIGENT, of Ipswich, John Martin, Master. She sailed from Ipswich, Suffolk, in June and arrived August 10 at Boston, with about one hundred passengers, principally from Hingham, Norfolk, destined for Hingham, Massachusetts (other sources have that the Diligent sailed from Gravesend on 26 Apr 1638). Included were:
- Rev. ROBERT PECK of Hingham, county Norfolk *
- Mrs. Peck
- Anne Peck
- Joseph Peck
- JOSEPH PECK of Hingham, county Norfolk *
- Mrs. Peck
Joseph was the brother of Rev. Robert Peck (above). He was the son of Robert and Helen (Babbs) Peck and was born 22 Apr 1587 at Beccles, Suffolk ENG. The Mrs. Peck listed in Banks' passenger list is his 2nd wife Deliverance ___(not proven). Although no children are included on this list, he emigrated with three sons, one daughter and five servants (The Pioneers of MA by Charles Henry Pope, 1981, p. 351' also Peck Genealogy pg. 13). The children were probably all by his first wife Rebecca Clark who died 21 Oct 1637 in Hingham ENG. She was the sister of Edward Gilman's (below) wife Mary Clark. Joseph was the Town Clerk of Hingham (MA) until 1645 when he removed to Rehoboth MA where he died 22 Dec 1663.
As the family left Hingham in 1645 there is not a lot of detail about them in the History of Hingham. These children are listed in that book for Joseph Peck (though not which child was by which wife, and the author, George Lincoln, notes that a genealogy of the Peck family lists some different and/or additional sons):( There were a lot of Peck's in Hingham, WFT appears to lump them all together, even if they were not of the same families.)
- 1.Simon - b. in England. He married first to Hannah Farnsworth, dau of Joseph and Elizabeth Farnsworth of Dorchester MA. She was born 14 Dec 1638 in Dorchester; d. 16 Apr 1659 in Hingham. Simon married second to Prudence Clapp, dau. of Edward and Purdence Clapp of Dorchester, on 13 Feb 1659/60. She was born 28 Dec 1637 in Dorchester. The family moved to Dorchester after 1671. Simon and Hannah had one son (who died young), and Simon and Prudence had eight children.( disputed and disproven as son of Joseph, the Immigrant; marriages etc appear correct for Simon at pg 266)
- 2.Samuel - bt. in Hingham 3 Feb 1638/39; d. soon.( not so, is included in father's will. Was born in Hingham, New England)
- 3.Nathaniel - bt. in Hingham 31 Oct 1641. Resided at Rehoboth. The chris. name of his wife was Deliverance. She died in 1675, and Nathaniel in 1676.( not so, there is no wife Deliverence noted at pg 133 for son of Joseph Peck)
- 4.Israel - bt. in Hingham 31 Mar 1643/44; died soon. (not so, he is listed in fathers will.Born in Hingham, New England )
- 5.Samuel - bt. in Hingham 19 Jul 1646 this is a different Samuel. The son of Joseph Peck, Immigrant, was born in Hingham Mass in 1638.
- 6.Israel - bt. in Hingham 19 Jul 1646 (not so, Israel, son of Joseph Peck the Immigrant, was born 1644 in Hingham, Mass.)
- 7.Hannah - bt. in Hingham 19 Jul 1646 (disputed, but appears to have died young. Not disconnected at this time (12/15/2013).)
Sources: WFT CD Vol.1, File #1142 - which has some conflicting info with History of Hingham, and for which clarification is sought. Did Joseph Peck have a daughter Rebecca (probably by his first wife)? Did Rebecca marry the Rev. Peter Hobart, and if so, as his first or second wife? Was the name of Peter Hobart's other wife Elizabeth or Rebecca Ibrook? History of Hingham doesn't give the name of Peter's first wife but lists his second wife as Rebecca Ibrook, daughter of Richard Ibrook. Other sources (unnamed) give her name as Elizabeth Ibrook and that she was Peter Hobart's first wife - the name of Peter's first daughter was also Elizabeth.
We should be reminded that families, and branches of families, very frequently used the same sets of names for their children. It is most probable that Joseph and his brother Rev. Robert did this; as well as any later related emigrants who were to come to the same area.
A GENEALOGICAL HISTORY OF THE DESCENDANTS OF JOSEPH PECK by Ira b. Peck (1868):
- https://archive.org/stream/genealogicalhist00peck#page/n40/mode/1up
- https://archive.org/details/genealogicalhist00peck. Pp 13-20; his will appears on pp17-20.
Joseph Peck the emigrant ancestor of the Pecks in this country known as the Massachusetts Pecks now a numerous and extensive race scattered throughout the United States its Territories the British Provinces and the Canadas was baptized in Beccles Suffolk County England April 30 1587.
(Upon early records, birth and deaths are not often given. They were generally kept by Parish clerks, who only gave baptisms and burials.)
He was the son of Robert Peck as will be seen by a reference to the chart being a descendant in the 21st generation from John Peck of Belton Yorkshire. He settled at Hingham Norfolk County England. In 1638 he and other puritans with his brother Robert Peck their pastor fled from the persecutions of the church to this country. They came over in the ship Diligent of Ipswich John Martin master.
Daniel Cushing then town clerk here at Hingham Norfolk County New England in speaking of his arrival in this country says: "Mr Joseph Peck and his wife with three sons and daughter and two men servants and three maid servants came from Old Hingham and settled at New Hingham." His children were as follows:
- 1. Anna baptized in Hingham England March 12 1617/18, and buried there July 27 1636
- 2. Rebecca baptized in Hingham England May 25 1620 and as appears by her father's will married a Hubbert
- 3. Joseph baptized in Hingham England August 23 1623. For the history of him and his descendants see Part I (page 30)
- 4. John baptized about 1626 in Hingham, England. For a history of him and his descendants see Part II (page 121)
- 5. Nicholas baptized in Hingham England April 9 1630 For his history see Part III (page 131)
- 6. Samuel baptized here at Hingham in New England February 3 1638/9 see Part IV (page 197)
- 7. Nathaniel baptized here at Hingham New England October 31 1641 Part V (page 203)
- 8. Israel baptized here at Hingham, New England March 4 1644 Part VI (page 247)
Children 1-5 by Rebecca Clark; children 6-8 by 2nd wife.
He was twice married. His first wife was Rebecca Clark. They were married at Hingham England May 21 1617. She died and was buried there October 24 1637. He married 2nd, in England, to --?--- and sailed with her and his children by Rebecca to America.
The name of his second wife and the baptism of his son John (in England) was not found. It was not upon the records at Hingham where his first marriage and the baptisms of his other children were recorded. It probably took place in another parish where the records were not preserved
He seems to have belonged to that class in England known as gentlemen or the gentry entitled to coat armor etc who ranked next to Baronets.
(In relation to his political, public, or private life in England, or that of his father, I did not attempt to learn anything. To have done so at this late day, now more than 200 years since they lived, would have been attended with great expense and much uncertainty as to finding anything reliable in relation to them. My resources have been heavily drawn upon in tracing him back to England, connecting him with his ancestors there, and learning what I had in relation to them; and as none of my friends, although many of them were abundantly able, offered to contribute towards the expense, I was obliged to content myself with what I had already learned there, that I might devote my means to tracing out his descendants here.)
Soon after his arrival here he settled in Hingham Mass. The records there in 1638 say:
Mr Joseph Peck received a grant of seven acres of land for a house lot next to Robert Peck his brother he also received other grants of land.
(This prefix or title of Mr., which is found with his name wherever it appears on record, indicates the position he occupied in society. It was of much more import and significance then than now. There were but a few of those who came over to whose name it was attached: they generally occupied a lower position in society.)
He remained at Hingham about seven years when he removed to Seekonk
While he remained at Hingham he was one of its leading men. He was Representative or deputy to the General Court in 1639 1640 1641 and 1642. He took an active interest in the business of the town. He was one of the selectmen, justice of the peace, assessor etc
He was appointed by the court to grant summons and attachments, to see people joined in marriage, to keep the records etc
In 1641 he became one of the principal purchasers of the Indians of that tract of land called by them Seacunk or Soeckonk afterwards incorporated into a town since known as Rehoboth Mass at first called eight miles square but afterwards found to be about ten
(See confirmation deed from the colony to the town of Rehoboth, in 1685 [Plymouth Colony Records, B5 P341], also quitclaim deed from William Bradford, in 1689.)
It comprised what is now Rehoboth, Seekonk and Pawtucket. He did not however remove there until 1645.
(The proprietors of Rehoboth also purchased other lands of the Indians. Their second purchase was a tract known as Wanamoiset, being what was afterwards a part of Swansey and Barrington. Their third purchase was in 1661, from Wamsitta, brother of King Philip, called the north purchase, including what was afterwards Attleborough, Mass., and Cumberland, RI. It was incorporated into a town, taking the name Attleborough, in 1694. It remained Attleborough until the settlement of the line between Plymouth and Rhode Island conlony, when the part since Cumberland was set off to Rhode Island. It was incorporated into a town in 1746, taking its present name. It has since been divided, a portion of it taking the name of Woonsocket, the Indian name for the locality.)
Upon the Rehoboth records is the following notice of an accident which befel him on his removal thither:
"Another strange accident happened by fire about this time. Mr. Joseph Peck and three others of Hingham, being about to remove to Seaconk, (which was concluded by the commissioners of the United colonies to belong to Plymouth), riding thither they sheltered themselves and their horses in an Indian wigwam, which by some occasion, took fire, and (although there were four in it, and labored to their utmost), burnt three of their horses to death, and all their goods, to the value of 50 pounds."
After his removal to Seekonk his name continually appears upon the records of the town in the management of its affairs until his age precluded him from such duties
His name also appears upon the Plymouth Colonial records as it did upon those of Massachusetts
He was appointed to assist in matters of controversy at court. In 1650 the court appointed him to administer marriage. In 1651 he was appointed to determine all controversies not exceeding a certain amount. He was also appointed to administer oaths, issue warrants etc.
He seems to have been one of the principal men here as he had been at Hingham as well as one of the wealthiest.
In the purchase of the town as in the appraisal of the purchaser's rights for the apportionment of a tax there was but one who paid more or whose rights were prized more than his.
In addition to his interest in the first purchase of the town he afterwards bought other rights which made him a large owner.
His rights in the common undivided lands at his decease were given to his sons as well as those which had then been divided. In some instances these lands still remain in the name and are owned and occupied by his descendants The Pecks of Barrington (Ellis, Asa, and others) now occupy lands given to his youngest sons Nathaniel and Israel.
The proprietors of Rehoboth first settled upon what has since been known as Seekonk Plain, a tract of cleared land which had been the planting grounds of the indians. The settlers appropriated it to the same purpose until its fertility became exhausted when they were obliged to leave the plain and seek the smaller openings which were more productive thus gradually penetrating the wilderness and extending the settlements of their town.
(Bliss, in his history of Rehoboth, supposes this word to be composed of the Indian words "seaki," meaning black, and "honk," goose - black goose being the Indian name for the wild goose, and thinks the place received its name from the fact of great numbers of wild geese in their semi-annual migrations, alighting here in the river and cove adjacent).
The house of Joseph which seems to have been of the better class stood upon the plain in the northerly part of the "Ring of the Town." Its location was near the junction of the present Pawtucket with the old Boston and Bristol road so-called westerly and not far from the present depot of the Boston and Providence Railroad as it crosses the plain.
(The proprietors first selected their lots and erected their dwellings in a semicircle, the circle opening towards the Pawtucket or Seekonk River, with their parsonage and meeting house in the center. The circle was called the ring of the town. It can still be seen in the present location of the houses there, in an eastern view from the church.)
It was here that he lived and died December 23 1663 in the 77th year of his age far from the tombs of his fathers the associations of his youth and the scenes of his early life but doubtless happy in the thought of having been able to worship God after the dictates of his own conscience and of being surrounded by his children in whose care his remains would be left to be buried where they would be surrounded by those of his descendants
No stones now more than two hundred years since mark the spot of their interment but the subsequent graves of his descendants indicate the place.
(The gravestones of his son Israel were still standing in a good state of preservation when I last visited the place, although he had then been deceased over 140 years. For the inscriptions, see Israel, Part VI.) Note: Israel is buried at Newman Cemetery, East Providence, Rhode Island; which was, at one time, a portion of Seekonk, Massachusetts.
His will is recorded upon the old Plymouth Colony Records, Book of Wills, 2d part, Vol. 2d, Folio 12. His will makes bequeaths to dau. Hubbert (Rebecca), and sons Joseph, John, Nicholas, Samuel, Nathaniel, and Israel. There is no mention of son Simon nor daughter Hannah.(pages 17-20 of Peck Genealogy
The following is a copy of his will:
Know all men by these presents that I Joseph Peck Senr. of Rehoboth do ordain and make this my last will and testament in manner and form following:
- Item - I give and bequeath unto my son Joseph all my lands and meadows lying and being near unto the river called Palmers River to him and his heirs forever.
- Item - I give unto him my old black mare and my great chist (chest?) in the parlor.
- Item - I give unto my son John my house and lands which I purchased of Joseph Torry and the half of the meadow betwixt Mr. Newman and mee on the other side of the meddow river to him and his heirs forever. Also, I give unto him my great chist in the hall.
- Item - I give and bequeath unto my son Nicholas my meadow at the hundred acres and the meadow called Bushey Meddow and all my meadows on the north side of the town to him and his heirs forever.
- Item - I give and bequeath unto my son Samuell my house where I now dwell with all the houses standing there. The outyards and all my house lott and all my land in the second division and my plaine lotts excepting half my furthest which I give unto my son Nicholas; and also I give unto him my meadow called Cheesbrooks Meddow and also my salt marsh att Broad Cove to him and his heirs forever.
- Item - I give unto my sonns Nathaniel and Israel all my lands which I purchased of John Adams and Mr. Bradford with the meadow called the Long Beach which is betwixt Mr. Newman and mee, and all my meadow at Squamquammett which is betwixt John and Allin and mee; and also my meadow at Papasquash betwixt John Allen and mee to them and their heirs forever.
- Item - I give my use of meadow att Kekemuett unto John Pecke my son and also all my lands att Wackemauquate I give unto my sonnes Joseph and Nicholas to be equally divided betwixt them.
- Item - I give and bequeath unto my daughter Hubbert 30 pounds in such pay as can be raised out of the goods I shall leave to be paid by my executors within one year after my decease and also I give unto her my wife's best cloak and one fine Pillowbeer and my Damask Napkin.
- Item - I give unto my son Samuell my silver beaker and two silver spoons and one gould ringe which was his mothers and also one paire of fine Holland sheets and one diaper tablecloth and six diaper napkins, 2 fine pillow beares and the feather bed and bolster and pillow and two blanketts whereon I now lye, my second rugg with some other small linnene in my trunk in the parlor which I also give unto him and the other chist under the window in the parlor and my best curtains and curtain rodds.
- Item - I give unto my son Nathaniel my biggest silver cupp and gould ringe, two silver spoons, my best feather bed, one bolster, two blanketts, the rugg that now lyeth upon mee, my trunk in the parlour chamber, my round table, three diapir napkins, one long table cloth betwixt Israel and him.
- Item - I give unto Israell my son my silver salt, 2 silver spoons, my two bed teekes with the bolesters, the old flocke bed, two blanketts, my best coverlid, one bolster, one pillow, two pillowbears; also unto Nathaniel one pillow, 2 pillowbears.
- Item - I give unto Israell ten of my best ewes and my sorrelled mare, two of my best cowes and my bull and my segg and three diaper napkins.
- Item - I give unto my son Joseph five ewes and to my son Samuel my two oxen called Bucke and Duke and two cowes, my cart, and one of my little plowes, one chain with the copses for the cart and I give unto Nathaniel two steeres and two cowes.
- Item - I give unto my son Nicholas the feather bed which he hath alreaddy and my best rugg and unto my son John I give the feather bed and bloster which he alreaddy hath and 40 s to buy him a rugg and to Israell I give the two little chists in the chamber and his mothers little trunke and unto my son Samuel I give my bedstead in the parlour chamber.
- Item - I give unto my son Joseph my gould ringe and unto John and Nicholas my two silver wine cupps - my mind is that my three younger sonnes should have each three platters and all the rest my pewter should be equally between my six sonnes and all my apparrel I give unto my three elder sonnes and all my wife's apparrell I give unto my three youngest sonnes to bee equally divided betwixt them.
- Item - I give and bequeath all the rest of my goods, cattles, and chattles, my debts and legacies being paid and my body brought to the grave unto my six sonnes equally to be divided amongst them, the youngest and weatkest to have as good a share as the eldest and strongest, desiring Mr. Newman and my brother Thomas Cooper to be the supervisors of this my testament and last will and I do ordaine my son Nicholas and my son Samuell the executors of my last will desiring the Lord to guide their hearts to do all according unto my intent heer sett down.
The last will and testament of mee, Joseph Pecke, written with my own hand.
A further amplyfication of our father's will upon his death bed, which was not expressed in his written will.
- Item - he gave to his son Joseph half his meadow that he purchased of Mr. Bradford lying on the further side of the new Meddow River; to his son John 35 pounds of common; to his son Samuel 250 pounds of common, to his son Nathaniel 200 pounds of common. These gifts were given to them and their heirs forever, moreover our father added to his daughter Hubbert ten pounds more than was sett downe in his written will.
- Item - that Nathaniel and Israell shall have equal shares of the corne that shall be raised upon that ground which he hath given to his son Samuel for this year ensuing, they bestowing an equal share of labor with them upon the land. It was further expressed by him that seeing those oxen expressed in his will that was given to his three younger sons disposed of before his death, that those young oxen and steers that are coming on in their romes should bee made choice of by them in manor as followeth: his son Samuel first choosing, his son Israell next, and Nathaniel last. It was his will also that those two mares which were given to his sonnes Joseph and Israel being not extant that Joseph should have his old mare and Israel his young mare instead of the other - further, whereas our father gave to his sonnes Joseph five sheep and Israell ten, they also being sold before our father's death, wee have agreed that they shall have in valuation as they were sold which was nine shillings a piece.
This we own to be our father's will, expressed by him unto us when he was in his perfect memory, which we own as his proper will and desire.
In witness whereof we have sett to our hands: Stephen Paine, Thomas Cooper, John Reed, Joseph Pecke, John Pecke, Nicholas Pecke, Samuell Pecke, Nathaniell Pecke, Israell Pecke.
This will is recorded upon the old Plymouth Colony Records, Book of Wills, 2d part, Vol. 2d, Folio 12.
JOSEPH PECK ... Birth: Apr. 30, 1587 Death: Dec. 23, 1663
Known as the emigrant ancestor of a major portion of the Pecks in the USA, he was baptised in Beccles, Suffolk County, England 4/30/1587. He was the son of Robert Peck a descendant in the 21st generation from John Peck, of Belton, Yorkshire, England. In 1638, he and other Puritans, with his brother Robert Peck, their pastor, fled from persecutions of the church to this country. They left Hingham, Norfolk co., England and arrived in Hingham, Norfolk Co., New England in 1638, on the ship Diligent of Ipswich, John Martin, master. In about 1645 he moved to Seekonk where he and others developed the Rehoboth "Ring of the Green" plantation community. From there his descendants have spread through out America. He is likely buried in the Newman Cemetery, New Providence, RI near his son Israel but no stone is present. See Ira B Peck's 1868 book on the "Descendants of Joseph Peck" for a full account. The main section of the book is in 6 parts, one for each of his 6 sons. Part I Joseph Peck Jr..start pg 30 Part II John Peck....start pg 121 Part III Nicholas Peck...start pg. 131 Part IV Samuel Peck....start pg. 197 Part V Nathaniel Peck....start pg. 203 Part VI Israel Peck....start pg 247
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Parents: Robert Peck (1546 - 1593) Helen Babbs Peck (1546 - 1614) Spouse: Rebecca Clark Peck (1585 - 1637) Children: Joseph Peck (1623 - 1701)* John Peck (1626 - 1713)* Nicholas Peck (1630 - 1710)* Samuel Peck (1639 - 1708)* Nathaniel Peck (1641 - 1676)* Israel Peck (1644 - 1723)*
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Created by: Dave Peck Record added: Sep 03, 2009 Find A Grave Memorial# 41512398
- http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=41512398
- https://archive.org/details/genealogicalhist00peck
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beccles. Re the Pecks, Joseph and brother Rev. Robert Peck.
- http://venn.lib.cam.ac.uk/cgi-bin/search.pl?sur=&suro=c&fir=&firo=c&cit=&cito=c&c=all&tex=PK598R2&sye=&eye=&col=all&maxcount=50
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hingham,_Norfolk
Known as the emigrant ancestor of a major portion of the Pecks in the USA, he was baptised in Beccles, Suffolk County, England 4/30/1587. He was the son of Robert Peck a descendant in the 21st generation from John Peck, of Belton, Yorkshire, England. In 1638, he and other Puritans, with his brother Robert Peck, their pastor, fled from persecutions of the church to this country. They left Hingham, Norfolk co., England and arrived in Hingham, Norfolk Co., New England in 1638, on the ship Diligent of Ipswich, John Martin, master.
In about 1645 he moved to Seekonk where he and others developed the Rehoboth "Ring of the Green" plantation community. From there his descendants have spread through out America. He is likely buried in the Newman Cemetery, New Providence, RI near his son Israel but no stone is present. See Ira B Peck's 1868 book on the "Descendants of Joseph Peck" for a full account. The main section of the book is in 6 parts, one for each of his 6 sons.
Part I Joseph Peck Jr Part II John Peck Part III Nicholas Peck Part IV Samuel Peck Part V Nathaniel Peck Part VI Israel Peck
- Updated from Find A Grave Memorial via child John Peck by SmartCopy: Mar 11 2015, 3:06:30 UTC
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The Hermetic sciences apparently revolved around alchemy
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Which was sort of a predecessor to chemistry. Turning lead into gold and creating elixirs of life was popular way back then and was still a popular research topic in Isaac Newtons time (1700's) Isaac Newton himself is still considered the prince of science, and really kicked off what we now consider to be science in a big way in many areas.
He was a Christian too, and probably never doubted that he was uncovering gods plan, in his efforts.
He is still well regarded in science circles of course, but his alchemic efforts never bore fruit. It wasnt till 200 years later that the nature of the atom started to be revealed which went a long way to unleashing the power of modern chemistry and closed the page on efforts to transmute lead into god activities.
Its not that scientists are "fundies" who wont consider ancient wisdoms, its that they have learned why the ancients themselves could not do these things and discovered truths that the alchemists never could, on account that they were on the wrong track.
Modern theories are backed up by working, the theories perfectly predict what can and cant be done in the mixing of chemicals.
I guess metaphysics is also ignored because it doesnt lend itself to the scientific method. If you cant test it scientifically, its not a scientific theory.
Gods arent, sources arent and metaphysics isnt. The very name implies its out of "physics", but if it was physics, it would be physics.
Hence scientists avoid commenting, but pretenders and quacks may go where professionals fear to tread.
Zombie Jesus who sort of came back from the dead...
Away in a graveyard, a stone overhead
The zombie lord Jesus is raised from the dead
The bones and the corpses are at his command
And rise like their master to swarm o'er the land!
The women are screaming, then running away
Poor Mary and Martha are gnawed where they lay
I fear thee, lord Jesus, your curséd undeath
With worms in your bowels and rot on your breath.
Have mercy, lord Jesus, don't eat me today
Next year I'll be bigger, I promise! I pray
Some shaman or rabbi or priestess or such
Will stake you and save us from your deadly touch.
I know Bible literalists apologists have their explanations, but they are ultimately just
band aids over bull sh!t.
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Alchemy was more than turning gold into lead!
- Jackie on Apr 10, 2012, 9:19 AM
Unlike religion Jackie, scientists dont come in denominations
- Arthur Dent on Apr 10, 2012, 7:31 PM
Proofs and dead?
- Jackie on Apr 12, 2012, 8:04 AM
In order to know something is so, you need to be able to test it, prove it.
- Arthur Dent on Apr 15, 2012, 3:25 AM
Indeed, when we cannot
- JVH say on Apr 15, 2012, 6:06 AM
The Holistic Approach Seems The Most Feasible
- JVH say on Apr 10, 2012, 7:47 PM
thats half the process only though.
- Arthur Dent on Apr 10, 2012, 7:53 PM
Apparently you misunderstood
- JVH say on Apr 10, 2012, 8:27 PM
Might have to think on that one for awhile NT
- Arthur Dent on Apr 10, 2012, 8:40 PM
Good for you
- JVH say on Apr 10, 2012, 8:49 PM
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Tuesday in Hawkville: Bruce Irvin, Chris Clemons turning up the heat
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A recap of the activities at Virginia Mason Athletic Center for Oct. 8, when the players had their "off" day and the coaches were preparing the game plan for Sunday's matchup against the Tennessee Titans at CenturyLink Field: Read
"Andrew Luck's career-long 73-yard connection with T.Y. Hilton was the longest touchdown pass Seattle allowed since 2007 (Week 16), when Baltimore's Troy Smith hit Derrick Mason for a 79-yard score."
ESPN.com in slotting the Seahawks at No. 5 in their weekly Power Rankings Read
As in pass rush. As in look at the Seahawks' pass-rush now that Bruce Irvin and Chris Clemons are part of it.
They combined for 19.5 of the Seahawks' 36 sacks last season, when Clemons produced a career-high 11.5 and Irvin led all NFL rookies with eight. But neither was available when this season started, because Clemons was completing his rehab after having knee surgery in January and Irvin was serving a four-game suspension.
Both were back for Sunday's game against the Colts, and each was up to his old tricks.
Clemons, in his first start after playing in the rotation the previous two games, had a fumble-forcing sack on Andrew Luck in the third quarter to setup a field goal. Irvin, making his debut after rejoining the team on Monday, had a sack in the second quarter that helped force the Colts to settle for a field goal.
The fumble Clemons forced with his second sack in as many weeks was recovered by Cliff Avril, who was signed in free agency to improve the pass rush but also got a late start to his first season with the Seahawks because of a hamstring injury. He collected his first sack in the home opener against the defending NFC Champion San Francisco 49ers and added another in the Week 4 overtime win against the Texans in Houston.
Just as we saw more of Clemons last week, expect to see more of Irvin in this week's game against the Titans at CenturyLink Field – as the Leo end, as the second end on the nickel line and at strong-side linebacker.
"Bruce did well. He was active. He was physical. He took advantage of the opportunities he had, with a good rush and a couple of good coverage opportunities. He tackled well. Shoot, he looked like he hadn't missed a step," coach Pete Carroll said on Monday.
"It's exciting that he's back and ready to go. He'll get into the flow of things. He'll play a good deal in this game this week." Read
Rookie wide receiver Josh Lenz has been added to the practice squad. The 6-foot, 194-pound Lenz had been with the Chicago Bears in training camp after being signed as a free agent out of Iowa State, but he was released on the roster cut to 53 players.
To clear a spot on the eight-man unit for Lenz, rookie offensive lineman Jared Smith was placed on practice squad/injured reserve after injuring a leg in practice last week. Read
No need for the Titans to hear a Nashville version of Carroll's "It's not how you start, it's how you finish" mantra. The Seahawks' opponent this week has scored 51 points in the fourth quarter, which ties for the fifth-highest total in any quarter and ties for second-most in the fourth quarter this season. Here's a look at the top-scoring quarters: : Read
As we told you Monday, Marshawn Lynch has moved into third among the rushing leaders in the NFL after his first 100-yard effort of the season against the Colts on Sunday. He's also 10th in total yards with 506 – 105 receiving in addition to his 410 rushing yards.
Steven Hauschka is tied for third in scoring among kickers with 49 points and tied for fourth with 21 touchbacks on his kickoffs.
Golden Tate leads the NFC and is fifth in the league with a 12.4-yard average returning punts. Richard Sherman, Kam Chancellor and Earl Thomas each have two interceptions and are tied for fifth in the league.
As a team, the Seahawks are third in the league in turnover differential at plus-7 and their 15 takeaways are tied for the league lead with the Kansas City Chiefs. The Seahawks' defense ranks No. 6 in average yards (303.6) and average points (16.2) allowed; No.3 in passing yards allowed (194.6); and No. 19 in rushing yards allowed (109.0). On offense, they rank No. 2 in rushing offense (159.0); No. 12 in average yards (366.4); and No. 25 in average passing yards (207.4). Read
The players return from their "off" day on Tuesday to begin practicing on Wednesday for Sunday's game against the Titans – the Seahawks' only home game in the month of October.
This game also completes a four-week stretch against the teams from the AFC South before the Seahawks play back-to-back road games against the NFC West rival Cardinals and Rams – each on national TV. Read
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Litter Boxes for Dogs – The Potty Solution
Using liter boxes for dogs is a very convenient and practical way for dog owners living in urban areas to deal with the reality of not having access to a yard. Below are some helpful ways to train your dog to use a litter box, dog potty box, potty patch, etc.
Dogs are most comfortable with routines, they flourish and are much happier when they have a routine they are used to and feel confident about. In order to first familiarize your dog with using a litter box for dogs you must establish a routine. The best way to do that is to take them to the litter box first thing in the morning. This is the time that they have the most urgency to urinate and will make your job much easier. Make sure that you continue this routine every morning for the first 10 – 14 days.
Every morning after you dog uses their litter box be sure to reward them with a little treat. This is a very basic dog training technique but you would be surprised how many people forget to have that treat with them. If you keep to the routine every morning and reward your dog with a treat they will catch on very fast.
Natural Grass
Dogs are instinctively drawn to natural grass, you see this every time you walk them, they gravitate to natural grass. Use this to your advantage when using litter boxes for dogs. Stay away from a dog litter box that uses fake synthetic grass or some sort of paper potty pad solution. Besides the fact that using natural grass makes your job training your dog much easier, it is better for the environment and requires much less maintenance than other options.
Size Matters
Even the smallest dogs need enough room to do their business. If you have a litter box for dogs that is too small your dog will not use it . As you have probably seen when you walk your dog they take a little while to find the right spot. There is no difference when your dog uses a litter box. If there is not adequate room to situate themselves they will not use it. Some companies sell very small dog litter boxes that just do not work. The following sizes are way too small for your dog: 24 in x 16 in or 24 in x 20 in.
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Dubai International Print Awards accepting submissions till 15 April
The Printing and Publishing Group is soliciting submissions to be considered for the Dubai International Print Awards (DIPA) 2014, held under the patronage of HH Sheikh Maktoum Bin Mohammed Bin Rashid Al Maktoum, Deputy Ruler of Dubai, under the auspices of the Dubai Chamber of Commerce and Industry, and with the special attendance of Sheikh Hasher Bin Maktoum Al Maktoum, Director General of Dubai Information Department.
The Award recognizes and rewards the best of the regional printing industry, and the ceremony, on April 28, 2014, promises to be a prestigious industry gathering and networking event.
Mohammed Al Hashimi, Chairman, Printing and Publishing Group, said, "In the run-up to this year's Awards ceremony, we are confident of exceeding last year's achievements in terms of number of entries, and the overall quality of submissions. We are keen that everyone in this dynamic industry is able to showcase their best work, and we hope to see all our colleagues and peers at the gala Award night."
Submission centres have been identified across the GCC and Levant Region, and details on the submission categories, criteria, and other information is available on www.ppguae.com. Broadly, the categories are Offset printing, Digital printing, large-format digital inkjet printing, Flexographic printing, and Rotogravure printing.
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I don't see the problem with achievements/trophies. They make me do things in games I never would have otherwise. Using all the different weapons in a game, for example. To me they just feel like extra (optional) content that can add replay value to your games. Resident Evil: Revelations, Kid Icarus Uprising and Xenoblade Chronicles all had in-game "accomplishment" systems already. To me it just seems like another set of collectibles in the game.
I'd love to have Achievements. (Heck, I'd love to CATCH UP with the current gaming trends.)
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To become a Flame Haze, one must be a vessel for the Lord of the Crimson Realm
Anime Character Bishie: Shana from Shakugan no Shana
Currently playing: Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (Switch) and Destiny (X-Box One S)
3DS FC (Pokemon X): 1848-1667-7668
Friend safari is Ice with Snorunt, Beartic, and Cloyster. Looking for Dragon safaris, safaris with Whirlipede or Espurr, and Y-exclusive Mega Stones.
Shiny Chains (D/P): Ralts, Magnemite, Beldum
Targets: Shinx
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Targets: Clauncher/Clawitzer, Swirlix, Smeargle
The achievment system is there to show off at Miiverse thing.
Glad to see that Metroid is a possible for the Wii U. Have to say that the way Miyamoto said Metroid would be on the Wii U reminds me of how that Zelda was for the Wii. Though I do hope that they would make this more early in the console's life since that it took them 5 years to pat down on Zelda for Wii. But hey, Hope that this will lead to other series to get a reboot on this console. You know, Star Fox and F-ZERO just to name some.
Oh... the irony
This is a bit outta the blue, but today I'm going to the Nintendo Lounge (right by Comic Con) to get a "hands on experience" of the Wii U. I got the invite from Club Nintendo.
Once I get back, I'll be glad to give my response on it.
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Okay, I'm back, and the Wii U seemed to meet my expectations. I played New Super Mario Bros. U, Rayman Legends, and Nintendo Land.
The Game Pad in itself seemed like it was prepared for everything practical.
NSMBU seemed different than its predecessors. Didn't feel the same, The Flying Squirrel power is a bit awkward to use at first, not as straightforward as the others. The Game Pad is a bit tricky to use with it, as when the screen moves it messes up where you're trying to help.
Haven't played Rayman Origins before this, so I can't really compare it to the first game. I only played with myself and didn't get to try it with the GamePad, but I didn't die at all.
Nintendo Land seemed decent. It wasn't terrible like everyone's been complaining about. The Zelda one seemed the most complex- no one could finish it.
I'm not usually one to pick at graphics, but the graphics were stunning. Very bright and crisp.
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Yellow Turk's-cap Lily or Pyrenean Lily (LIL-ee-um: py-ren-AY-kum) Liliaceae:
Easy to grow in full sun. Dense whorls of short leaves on stems growing 2 to 4 feet tall. The stems are topped off by small, thick, waxy, yellow, downward facing flowers with rust to black-speckled dots. The flowers are scented. Blooming in June. Worthy garden plant that is not so common. Grow in full sin to parts shade, the soils should be cool, so under hot conditions grow so the plants emerge from some cover that shades the soil.
Native from the Pyrenees in Spain and France.
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The seed normally shows delayed germination and may need two cold periods.Start with 4 weeks at 35F, then 90 days warm (65F) and then move to 30-39F for 4-8 weeks, then move back to 65F for leaf emergence.
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Martin Breheny: Eighteen reasons to show cynical play the black card
HARD cases make bad law, but when the system is under review anyway, there's no harm in tossing an extreme example into the mix.
Take last Sunday's Westmeath v Louth Division 2 football tie in Mullingar. It made an early bid to become the season's most carded game, with Dublin referee Gary McCormack reaching into his pocket 19 times.
He flashed 18 yellow cards and one red (Westmeath's Doran Harte) in a game where the hosts overturned a three-point interval deficit to win by one.
Now, when 19 of 37 players (seven subs came on) are deemed to have committed offences which draw cards, it suggests one of the following:
• There was a high degree of cynicism, carelessness or bad tackling technique in action.
• The referee was excessively card-happy.
• The rules are unmanageable.
• A combination of all three.
Whatever the answer, there's something wrong when more than half the players in any game, let alone an inter-county tie, are carded.
What makes Sunday's card-fest especially interesting is that while 18 players got single yellows, none picked up a second one which would have resulted in dismissal (Harte went on a straight red).
Over recent years, it has become increasingly common for players to get yellow cards on a systematic basis while ensuring that they don't get a second.
That way, all 14 outfield players – and the goalkeeper too if the occasion demanded – could be yellow-carded in every game without having any long-term consequences. It's cynicism in its worst form.
That will change if a Football Review Committee (FRC) proposal is accepted, whereby three single yellow cards in different games draw a suspension, but you can expect strong opposition at Congress on the ridiculous grounds that it would be difficult to implement.
Of course, the big FRC idea in this area is the introduction of 'black card' offences whereby a player who commits any one of five deliberately destructive fouls must be replaced.
Already, some big guns, including managers, are lining up against it, spuriously arguing that it would take the manliness out of Gaelic football.
That is pure rubbish, of course, but it wouldn't be the first time that propaganda was used to discredit a good idea.
The role of managers in deciding what's right and wrong for football and hurling has reached ridiculous levels.
Their high profiles make them the most-quoted individuals in every county, so when they oppose a particular proposal, its chances of being accepted greatly diminish.
In general, managers operate on the basis that a proposed rule change will militate against their team.
Now, quite how introducing a rule which punishes cynicism would go against any particular team might appear to be a mystery.
However, if cynicism is part of the game plan in the first place, then anything which curtails it does, indeed, affect those involved. So, next time you hear a manager complaining about the introduction of the 'black card', ask yourself this: is he objecting because it's not good for Gaelic football or because it will be bad for his team due to the way they play?
Criticism of referees is now a routine default setting for many managers, usually complaining about a lack of consistency.
They're right in their diagnosis since uniformity of rule application is pretty rare, but wrong in their response, because the criticisms almost invariably hinge on decisions which went against their team.
Clearly, those with a vested interest see things from their own viewpoint – hence their opinion on the referee is completely self-serving.
What's more difficult to understand is why those who recruit, train and monitor referees can't improve the consistency rating.
Could it be that because referees do a thankless job with a high criticism quota, the standard of entrant isn't very good?
A limited player can never reach the same level as the more naturally gifted and, while refereeing is a more technical pursuit, it's still true that some have a natural aptitude for it, whereas others don't.
FRC research showed that the average number of yellow cards per game was 6.6 in recent years. That's quite high and, no doubt, influenced their proposal to force an automatic replacement for players guilty of certain offences.
When it comes to advocating it at Congress next month, 18 yellow cards at last Sunday's Westmeath-Louth game will greatly strengthen their hand.
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May 14, 15 or 16. I think that they had an afternoon one available still. But I really want a sunset wedding, or pics during the sunset...you know what i mean. I've tried to make myself feel better by telling myself its all for a reason, and that I want to were a vail, and the wind there will not allow me to do that. But I'm still really bummed! If you happened to hear something different let me know. There is always the chance that someone will cancel!
Seems for you it IS for the best ... you want sunset pix and there just isn't any good vantage point for sunset pix in Cancun. West coast of Mexico is your best bet ... your pix will be gorgeous!


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PARROTLIFEhttp://parrotlife.editboard.com/feed/?type=atom2014-06-26T16:11:25Zhttp://i11.servimg.com/u/f11/11/04/54/26/an48410.gifLatest topicsPlucking2014-06-26T16:11:25Zsandra27Its an age old problem but new to me & I am desperate. My 2yr old African Grey has suddenly started plucking a lot. She is a free flying bird & has a room full of toys & only goes in her cage at night. She also has an outdoor flight cage which she goes into several times a week, weather permitting. I spray her with tepid water three or four times a week, which she loves. She has a wide mix of fresh veg & fruit every day & until recently was eating Harrisons. She is rarely left alone for more than an hour or two & I spend at least a couple of hours playing with her every day.
 A few weeks ago I had to leave her with a friend for a week & she was in the same room as her sister. This wasnt her first stay but it was the first time she had seen another parrot.
 She seemed fine when we brought her home but she seemed to go off her Harrisons from that time so I ended up buying a well know branded parrot seed & nut mix. A couple of weeks later she suddenly got sick & was sleeping all the time & off all her food. The vet gave her a vitamin supplement & suggested I get her a toy! She was back to normal next day but still refusing Harrisons unless I pulped it to a paste & hand fed it. All seemed fine but.....
 Three weeks later I had been out for a few hours & when I got home the floor was thick with feathers. & she continued for the next few days. Another trip to the vet & he sprayed for mites & I have to admit the crazed plucking eased off drastically but she still seems very bothered by her feathers. She does a lot of wing "clicking" (a brief short flap) like she does when settling down for a nap but also seems to shake her head quite a bit. Today I notice blood on her leg where she has been having a go at that.
 Her nostrils are clean & I can see no visible sign of mites or skin problems & am at my wits end what to do next.
 The only other change in her behavior is that she has got extremely loving recently & wants far more cuddles than ever before. Could it be her hormones upsetting her?
 My avian vet is the only one available & he seems unconcerned at this stage & told me not to worry unless it gets extreme. To me plucking till she bleeds is just that so I need more ideas please. http://parrotlife.editboard.com/t501-pluckingmerry christmas2013-12-24T22:22:51Zjulesjust wanted to wish everyone here a very merry Christmas and a happy new year. all the best for 2014

 http://parrotlife.editboard.com/t500-merry-christmasGreen Parrots! Think Green, not ACTUALLY green ;)2013-11-07T22:23:26ZblacksheepHello!

 I am as eco friendly as I can be with a horde of fluffy children! My dog food comes in tins that are recycled, catfood in boxes instead of bags, I use natural clay cat litter, biodegradable poo bags, etc that are landfill friendly as meat eater poo can't be composted. My rabbit litter and excess food is all composted, for a large family our tiny black bin goes out once every TWO weeks, just to be cleaned, not always because its full! We recycle, reuse, and generally do our best to keep everything simple and environmentally friendly.

 Then we got a parrot. *sigh* while this gives me a way of recycling my news paper, but once Elvis has used it, it can't go into the recycling bag. I am looking into composting newspapers etc, but until then, I've come up with this:

 Mats all laid out and taped - the white tape is on the outer mats, the grey on the inner mats. You can just see the edge of the fire place.

 Why go through all this trouble? Simples, I've just protected all the bits that my bird poops on when out playing with clean up friendly mats, eliminating the need for putting newspaper around the cage! Generally sticky foods will hit these mats when thrown from within the cage as well, fruit doesn't fly as well as seeds  So now all you need is a spray bottle of F10, some dish cloths and a bucket. When bird poops - or playtime is over if you are lazy like me - spray down the mats, whip up with reusable dish cloths, chuck them in the bucket. Once bucket is full, put them through a 90 degree wash with some F10 mixed in with normal cloths soap, dry, and reuse

 What you need:

Dog/place mats - Measure your cage. Add to it the normal area that you cover with paper when your bird is out. I got mine from The Range for £1 for massive ones, not sure if they still sell them but I will find out tomorrow as he's eaten some of them

duct tape to match the mats - I went with white. I clearly ran out. I will be fixing this next time I move his cage for a deep clean.

a hoover - you don't want mats on food!

scissors - tape is sticky, you don't want it in your mouth!

knee pads - you'll be down there for some time.

about an hour or two of time - OCD dependent  I had to have them perfectly lined up.

 And here we go:

Hoover the area to be covered.

Put your cage in position - you'll notice the mats on mine are short on one side, this is because his cage backs into a fireplace and wall, which I've hidden with a massive sheet of cardboard, so everything he throws that way goes down the cardboard and under the cage, so that the floor/fireplace doesn't need additional covering.

With cage in place, but a little bit of tape by each wheel, then move your cage. This is the footprint you need to cover.

Hoover the area again to tidy up the bird food just thrown all over it.

Lay out your mats so that about 8-12 inches of the mat sticks out from where you've put the tape, if you use dark tape and light mats its very easy to see where the marking is under the mats - I have black carpet so put white tape at the wheels then white mats over the top, so I could see where they needed to go to cover under and around.

Go buy some more mats, you've just realized that there are massive gaps and no way to fix this. Its cool, I bought twice the mats I needed to cover the area and still had to go back. You want about 1-2 inch of over lap on each mat.

Hoover the bird food, pick up 2 plastic dinosaurs and some shredded paper.

Start in one corner, tape down your first mat. You want to tape every edge, even though it is going to be over lapped by the next mat. Trust me, tape every single edge, corner, etc.

Tape all of the Outer Mats - these are the ones that actually stick out - the ones taped in white in the photo. It is important to tape the outer mats first, trust me.

Hoover the middle area, hoover the mats you just put down. Pick up a few more toys and entertain your bird for 30 minutes, then return to matting.

Once all outer mats are taped, you can go around and tape them all down with one continuous strip around the edges. I did not do this as Elvis eats mats. But if you don't have a bird that does this, then it keeps the mats down better.

Place the middle mats, tape in place. Tape these around with one continuous strip as well. (Grey taped mats in the photo - again I didn't use continuous taped method after, just single taped)

Hoover again

Talk to your bird for a bit, maybe play tugs with a string of dinosaurs

Roll cage into place, job's a good'un!

 Cage in place, shows how far the mats stick out

 Some notes:
 SERIOUSLY DO THE EDGES FIRST! Trust me! Tape every edge of them! There are three reasons for this - First: when you roll the cage, it will catch the edges that are not tapped, then pull the mat, and you will end up with a crushed mat and food everywhere, if you put the middle mats down first you end up pulling up all of the stuck together edge mats when you do catch it with a wheel, or in my case a plastic storage box - if you catch a top middle mat, then you only crinkle a top middle mat. Second reason: Your bird will find any untaped edge and eat it. Reason Three: If 1 and 2 fail, you will find that bird seed, plastic dinosaurs, and other weird stuff makes its way under the mats, gets stepped on by a person, and punches through the mats, which will need to be replaced.

 Happy birdy, happy people, happy carpet

 Generally I can clean all the mats with one cloth, so one cloth per day - better then loads of news paper  You can of course wash the cloth out in a sink and reuse the same one, I just don't like to touch bird poop  I use to soak them over night with the rest of his pooped-on toys and stuff, but with the amount of toys he has I only end up doing a load once every other month and you don't want them to sit around that long, seriously ew - so I generally wash them with the rest of my towels, makes it easier and I'm already doing laundry, so no extra loads!

 I get the 10 pack for a pound white dish cloths at Tesco - they are NOT very absorbent, but are really scratchy, so good for scrubbing. They do wash alright, but never go back to the same shape, although this may be because I put them through the dryer with the towels as well. I am looking at switching to a more tea towel style ones to soak up split bath water, juice, tea, and whatever other parrot related liquid needs. I have carpet, so this is a big bonus to me, I no longer have to scrub up bird poop and mashed grapes because the dumb dog moved the newspaper, or someone forgot to put it down to start with! The mats are always there and always ready

 One day I will have wood floors and a mop LOL, but until then, mats it is. I want to get a piece of lino cut for under it one day, but for a tenner all in, this was a very cheap option  EVENTUALLY I want to get some clear plastic matting like you use to put under rolly computer chairs back in the day and put that down, then clear Plexiglas to cover the fireplace etc so it looks nicer, but hey - once covered with bird food it all looks the same anyway http://parrotlife.editboard.com/t463-green-parrots-think-green-not-actually-greenKittens2013-10-07T20:33:39ZbobWe have had a couple of kittens brought into the shop today, they are beautiful, about 16 weeks old. But wait for it, the owner didn't want them (although they came to us in a fabulous condition) he tried to give them to various cat sanctuaries but to no avail and in fact one rescue centre told him to put them in a box and go and dump them somewhere.
 What? they are having a laugh surely.http://parrotlife.editboard.com/t499-kittensnesting behaviour2013-10-07T20:26:16Zjulesi found out last week that jasper is actually a female grey after going to the vets for a check up. the last 3 weeks he has started to pull out his fluffy downy feathers and made a bald patch on his back and a small one on his chest (the worst of it he did overnight on the first week)

 they are starting to grow back now but i did wonder if this is part of hormonal or nesting type behaviour in females,along with all the shredding he does. this is what made me curious and have a dna test done  http://parrotlife.editboard.com/t482-nesting-behaviourwe're back2013-09-29T16:34:49Zjulesas it's been a few months since we logged in, i thought i'd let you know me and jasper are still around, alive and well. Christmas is not far away, scary thought eh?

 hope you are all well, wherever you are and whatever you're doing. take care and come back, pleeeaaassse  http://parrotlife.editboard.com/t498-we-re-backintroduce yourself2013-04-07T22:57:31Zsandra27Hi I am totally new to the forum game but thought it might have some useful information. I moved to Cyprus from the UK some 12 years ago & now share my home with two cats & my gorgeous girl Yoda, an African Grey. Oh there is a husband too.http://parrotlife.editboard.com/t497-introduce-yourselfhelp pic avatar2013-03-04T00:02:58Ztraci&alberthow do i add a pic as my avatar?http://parrotlife.editboard.com/t495-help-pic-avatarHello......2013-03-03T23:59:40ZSheron1Having spent years wanting a parrot I finally took the plunge and purchased a baby Meyers last week - after all life is too short! I am really grateful for the help and advice given to me by Bob, Diane and team. So far so good, Pidge seems to be settling in well and is already stepping up and coming out/in of his cage really easily. If anyone can offer any help/advice/tips on handling a parrot of this type, I would love to hear from you. Thanks. Sheron. http://parrotlife.editboard.com/t496-hellohello newbie here2013-03-03T23:52:11Ztraci&alberthi guys,
 thought i would introduce myself to you all and say HI  My name is traci i am 35 and have had my african grey ALBERT for 4 months now , he is 3 years young and he is mummys baby  i work full time so he home alone all day with either the radio or the television on cbeebies i hate the situation but i try my best to make sure he has forging toys and audio sounds around him.

 he comes out of his cage most evenings and weekends and will happily sit on his free standing prech, although he tend to fly to me every time i enter the room, he has bonded only with myself really other members of the family he tends to fluff up at!!
 he is a super talker but will often scream at our meal time to eat with us.
 i am a novice so any help, info and tips would be very welcome please
 he is on harrison h/p course feed
 http://parrotlife.editboard.com/t494-hello-newbie-hereBlack-headed caique problem2012-12-23T22:22:39ZJtm4967Hi I'm Jo & I've joined this forum as I desperately need help with my parrot.
 He's a black-headed caique called Jaffa, he's 2yrs & 2mths old. I got him last New Year's Eve, he bit his last owner really hard on the face so she gave him to me.
 I've had no problems with him at all until 2 months ago. I got him out & all of a sudden he flew at me & viciously bit my hand so hard he drew blood. I told him no & put him back in his cage. Since then the attacks are every time I get him out. I put a UV light on him which made him worse, he then started biting my face every time I got him out.
 I took him to my vets yesterday & he had a hormone implant put in, which will probably take a week to work & it might not do anything.
 I just want my lovely, friendly, comical little parrot back
 Please helphttp://parrotlife.editboard.com/t493-black-headed-caique-problemNovember Competition.2012-12-20T17:15:19ZLoki's Dad.Please post here for November's fun photo comp.  http://parrotlife.editboard.com/t492-november-competitionOctober Competition. 2012-11-10T10:50:52ZLoki's Dad.Please post your entries here for judging in October's fun, photography competition.

 Let's have a bumber crop of photos this month, I know there are some wonderful photos out there, and we'd all love to see them. You have to in it to win it.  http://parrotlife.editboard.com/t491-october-competitionMacaw mummy to be - wanting to make parrot-minded friends!2012-11-05T00:00:20ZBirdybesottedHi there fellow parrot people.

 My name is Bettina, I am 29 and from Northampton - I have rehabilitated, reared and kept various and numerous birds over my lifetime and shared my bird experiences with my beautiful lutino cockatiel since I was 6 years old. He died last year. I have never had a parrot.

 I am finally accomplishing a life long dream and will be fetching my green-winged baby this weekend!!! Like any expectant parent I have prepared and read as many books as possible but nothing prepares you for the real thing quite like, well the real thing!

 I am really hoping to make friends within the parrot community and hope to share experiences from the very beginning with you.

 Any tips and advice from seasoned parrot mamas and papas for my new life changing journey will be very VERY much appreciated! This expectant mum is thrilled but a teensy bit scared at the same time!

 Thanks for taking the time to read this and hopefully chat soon!!

 BB
     http://parrotlife.editboard.com/t489-macaw-mummy-to-be-wanting-to-make-parrot-minded-friendsSeptember Photograph Competition Results.2012-11-04T23:50:09ZLoki's Dad.Hello Gang.

 Let's take a look at the pics for this month, and place them. Not many entries again, but enough to judge.

 Thanks to those that made the effort.

 OK, in reverse order, as always.

 In 3rd this month, well done Jules.

 and in 2nd, nice one Zig.

 and a one two for Ziggy, well done.

 in 1st,

 See you all next month.http://parrotlife.editboard.com/t490-september-photograph-competition-resultsAugust Photo Competition Results.2012-10-01T20:42:16ZLoki's Dad.Due to the lack of entries this month, there will be no judging.http://parrotlife.editboard.com/t486-august-photo-competition-resultsNasty Ringneck2012-09-08T22:35:03ZkonnorHi, My son was given a " baby indian ringneck " for a xmas present by his partner, they have seperated and he has brought it home with him. It was suposed to be 5 months old when he was purchased and hand reared but my son has never been able to handle it without being bitten to pieces and to get him out of his cage to clean is a marathon in itself. Even when we walk by his cage he freaks out and moves as far from us as he can. When we had had him for about 4 months he moulted and his ring appeared round his neck ( I keep saying he/him but we do not know the sex). He is a very attractive bird but my son would love to be able to handle him and let him out occasionally. I would be greatful for any advice or help as his behaviour is driving us all mad with his constant squealing. he is just like a wild bird that has been captured.Any ideas please.
 Konnor.http://parrotlife.editboard.com/t488-nasty-ringneckSeptember Photo Cometition.2012-09-08T22:20:52ZLoki's Dad.Here's the place to post your photos for the September competition.

 Get clicking parroteers.  http://parrotlife.editboard.com/t487-september-photo-cometitionHello from the midlands2012-09-05T19:09:27ZproblemparrotsHI Every one,

 i did join in feb but could not find how to post  but have now sussed it out!

 im shell from the midlands, im owned by a GW with special needs, BnG, Military with diabeties, calico, catalina and my fav hahns macaw

 i will try and get some pics up of the crew soon.

 Shell xhttp://parrotlife.editboard.com/t480-hello-from-the-midlandsThink Parrots 20122012-08-22T22:42:10ZViviHi guys! Just wanted to know anyone else going to this event? Would love to link up if you are =)http://parrotlife.editboard.com/t460-think-parrots-2012July Results.2012-08-16T21:25:34ZLoki's Dad.Here are the results of July's photo comp. Thanks to all who entered.

 In 3rd place,

 Cute.

 and in 2nd place,

 awww factor,

 and the winner for July,

 it had to be, didn't it?

 http://parrotlife.editboard.com/t484-july-resultsResults For May.2012-08-16T21:21:00ZLoki's Dad.Hello gang, good to see you. Apologies for leaving this one so late, I will be honest and say that I have been pre-occupied with so many things, and I missed this. My fault.

 Anyway, let's get on with the results. I have had a good look at the entries, and this is always a difficult decision, as I base my decision on more than just good photographs. They must also tell a bit of a story, just by looking at the photo. There are a few like that this month, so here goes. In reverse order, as always.

 In third, lovely gown Diane. ;-)

 and in second,

 a cracking photo, very well executed,

 and the winner, very well done, a story there.

 Thanks to all the entrants, and I will see you in a few days time, to judge the latest competition.http://parrotlife.editboard.com/t481-results-for-mayAugust competition 2012-08-16T21:18:21ZziggyCome on folks lets see some pictureshttp://parrotlife.editboard.com/t485-august-competitionworking a.m.2012-08-02T09:58:26Zjulesi think i could get used to these early morning shifts at work. i'll be home by 1.30pm and get to spend the rest of the day with jasper

 i hope the weather stays nice then we can sit out in the garden  http://parrotlife.editboard.com/t483-working-a-mJuly competion 2012-08-02T09:40:23ZziggyOpps look like we missed June,
 Let's see if we get some nice weather and get some nice pictures with our feathered friends http://parrotlife.editboard.com/t478-july-competionMay Photograph Competition2012-07-29T20:32:58ZbobSorry not been around hat much but been busy with the shop and move round in the warehouse as well also we have moved some of the aviaries at home so it's been all go

 We didn't have many entries last month so we are hopefully looking forward to far more entries in the month of May
 http://parrotlife.editboard.com/t472-may-photograph-competitioni needn't have worried2012-07-09T12:47:29ZjulesToday i'm working all day which i don't do often,so i thought i'd ring home to see how jasper is getting on. While talking to tony i could hear jasper chattering and whistling away,he sounded so happy yet looked quite subdued when i put him in his cage this morning.

 so i didn't need to be so worried after all,did i?  http://parrotlife.editboard.com/t479-i-needn-t-have-worriedNew to all this2012-07-04T18:05:53ZEllie-JoHiya guys and gals,
 Hope your all ok. My names Jo, i am a proud owner of a CAG called Ellie which my fiance brought for me last year, best pet i have ever owned i love her to bits. I have decided to join this forum to meet new bird owners and for any more advise relaiting to CAGS
 http://parrotlife.editboard.com/t474-new-to-all-thissplash time2012-06-18T20:20:07Zjulesjasper enjoying his shower,and getting really soaked

 http://parrotlife.editboard.com/t475-splash-timeShowing off...2012-06-18T20:18:44ZgordonsA couple of Kara testing out her wings...

 http://parrotlife.editboard.com/t477-showing-offHarness2012-06-18T20:17:33ZgordonsAfter a lot of shrieking Kara has finally got used to using her harness. All we need is some decent weather so she can get outside!

 http://parrotlife.editboard.com/t476-harnessOliver's homework buddy2012-05-24T18:22:52Zbirdslife

 Don't worry guys I didn't let Einstein touch to glue stick, although I know it looks that way :/ lol
 http://parrotlife.editboard.com/t447-oliver-s-homework-buddyEinstein has a new play gym2012-05-23T20:53:55ZbirdslifeHere is Einsteins new gym, hope you all like. Please tell me if you think of anything that should be or could be changed.

 http://parrotlife.editboard.com/t451-einstein-has-a-new-play-gymApril Results.2012-05-10T04:18:49ZLoki's Dad.Hey gang, here are the results of the April's competition.

 Reverse order, as always.

 in 3rd, well done Ziggy.

 and in 2nd, Ziggy again.

 and the winner, a cracker, well done Gordons.

 http://parrotlife.editboard.com/t473-april-resultsHi from not so sunny but snowy Sussex2012-05-09T22:21:13ZBlondedeeHi to all

 I'm Dee and I live in Worthing, Sussex with my husband Vince and my 2 'tiels; Sushi (27yrs) and his son Baldie (23yrs). Saffy; Sushi's mate died last year from liver failure, she was 28yrs old!

 2 weeks ago my darling LSC 'too Maxi died suddenly with no apparent reason, except his neck was broken so we can assume this was a tragic accident. My husband and I miss him dreadfully and we're still shedding buckets of tears for our baby.
 Maxi came to me (before I met my husband) 24yrs ago as a year old youngster as big ball of cuddle fluff and feather; from day 1, Maxi was the most tame and loving bird you could wish to have and remained that way to the end.
 I was fortunate enough to have an avian vet (Alan Jones MRCVS - Turners Hill, Sussex) quite close and always available for sensible advice and due to his expertise and our care, Maxi remained in 100% full prestine feather and exhibited no psycological problems.
 We intend to purchase a new baby 'too (Citron or LSC) during the summer, so if anyone know of a good reputable breeder in the south please let me know, or we're willing to travel anywhere for the right bird.

 I'd love to 'chat parrot' to anyone willing to listen and swap ideas, stories etc..

 Hope to hear from you soon
 Dee  http://parrotlife.editboard.com/t455-hi-from-not-so-sunny-but-snowy-sussexApril Photograph Competition2012-05-09T22:16:46ZbobPost your photos her for the April competitionhttp://parrotlife.editboard.com/t471-april-photograph-competitionHello from Barrow-in-Furness!2012-05-07T16:56:30ZblacksheepThe end of the world, I am told!

 My name is Liz (28, eek), Elvis (4 1/2) is my Medium Sulphur Cockatoo, Tippit (8-12) is my border collie, Dustpan* and Bucket* (Both 3 1/2 brothers) are my cats, and Pepper (going on ancient!) is my bunny  I have a husband (age undisclosed ) as well who tolerates us all amazingly, most of the time  I also have some fish - lots of fish lol.

 * - named by my husband NOT ME!

 We live in town, but are fortunately end of terrace, so no one can hear the screaming lol. Except in the summer, Elvis will shout out the window at Snowy who lives across the road :rolls: They've never met each other, Elvis does not get on with other parrots. This was the reason his last family had to rehome him, he was a gift to his last owner when he was a few months old, but he never took to the other parrot (a grey) or her husband, so there you go. I've had him for a year and a half, we have many ups and downs - I am told this is normal for 'toos, makes me feel a little saner LOL which is hard to do with a 'too in the house to be honest!

 He's become a wonderful part of my life, even though he's not really having a lot to do with me when he's out and about, he does beg for cuddles constantly through the cage bars, so just need to teach him to trust again after a vet trip and needing an emergency shower not long after (I put flea treatment on the dog and forgot, was petting them both then realized I had flea treatment on my hand and wasn't sure who was being petted with which hand and if it was bad for him or not, so straight to a deconshower for him lol. He wasn't pleased, but did let me dry him off and cuddle him, but that was about that. He's coming a long slowly but surely.

 Fingers crossed, ey?  I can't say I didn't know what I was getting into - I fell in love with him the first day we saw him, spent almost two hours with his family and him, he wanted nothing to do with anyone but happily played and watched us all very carefully and interestedly. I probably should have left him and got a parrot that liked me right away, but where is the fun in that??  I am an idiot, but I love him dearly lol. He seems keen on me, even though we fell out lolhttp://parrotlife.editboard.com/t458-hello-from-barrow-in-furnessMarch Results.2012-04-06T21:22:46ZLoki's Dad.Hello gang.

 OK, here are the March competition results. I have to say, I'm dissapointed with the number of entries. Come on you guys, give me something to do, as Tegan doesn't quite keep me busy enough.

 Quite easy this month, so here goes.

 reverse order as always.

 in third place, nice one Ziggy.

 and in second, Ziggy again.

 and the winner, I just loved the moment, two entirely different species, from different climes, brought together.

 Nice one Bob, enjoy your prize.

 Come on and get those cameras clicking for next month, and set me a judging challenge, see you then Parroteers.http://parrotlife.editboard.com/t470-march-resultsMarch competition 2012-04-01T20:55:09ZziggyHope your cameras are fully charged for this month, fingers crossed that we start getting some nice weather and our feathered friends can enjoy themselves outside, ziggy went to school the other day and he loved it outside http://parrotlife.editboard.com/t464-march-competitionrecipe for chickpea curry2012-03-28T19:17:46Zjulesit is quite a long one so here goes

 2 cloves of fresh garlic,crushed or minced
 1tsp each of,ground cumin,turmeric,coriander,chilli powder
 1/2 tsp cinnamon
 1 400g organic chickpeas
 1/2 cup organic brown rice
 1/2 red pepper chopped
 1/2 turnip chopped
 1 carrot chopped
 1 cup frozen sweetcorn
 1 pint water
 1 tbsp dried coriander
 1 cup of organic raisins or sultanas
 (spices can be adjusted to suite own taste)
 1/2 cup fresh coriander (optional)

 Method

 add all ingrediants to a pan apart from fresh coriander,bring to the boil then simmer stirring occasionally until the water is absorbed and the rice is cooked. add more water if required. add fresh coriander (optional),cool and serve

 this can be frozen http://parrotlife.editboard.com/t468-recipe-for-chickpea-curryWOOF!WOOF!2012-03-28T19:15:21Zblacksheep<object width="620" height="336"><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always" /><param name="allownetworking" value="all" /><param name="allowfullscreen" value="true" /><param name="movie" value="http://www.mobypicture.com/static/flash/player.swf" /><param name="quality" value="high" /><param name="bgcolor" value="#ffffff" /><param name="flashvars" value="file=http://vid.mobypicture.com/ff0d5d9ce09a3446a394442043e0178f.mp4&image=http://vid.mobypicture.com/ff0d5d9ce09a3446a394442043e0178f_movie.jpg" /><embed type="application/x-shockwave-flash" src="http://www.mobypicture.com/static/flash/player.swf" quality="high" bgcolor="#ffffff" width="620" height="336" allowScriptAccess="always" allownetworking="all" allowfullscreen="true" flashvars="file=http://vid.mobypicture.com/ff0d5d9ce09a3446a394442043e0178f.mp4&image=http://vid.mobypicture.com/ff0d5d9ce09a3446a394442043e0178f_movie.jpg" /></object>

 *squeaky toy soundtrack brought to you by the actual dog, not the feathered one

 He was barking at the room light  he doesn't like it, fair enough, but I was trying to take a picture of the notch on his beak, but from where he's grabbing the bars its clear he's bashed it himself, the dumb bird. I want to get him a cage with bigger bar gap - his old one was 1 inch gap - but he kept reaching through and grabbing the dog, and I was worried if she jerked away he'd break his leg or something stupid LOL

 (that and I got tired of pulling dog fur out his cage...)http://parrotlife.editboard.com/t461-woofwooftoast for tea2012-03-20T14:37:46Zjulesi took jasper to my mums on saturday and she made him some toast. here he is tucking in

 http://parrotlife.editboard.com/t469-toast-for-teawhat size harness?2012-03-20T14:28:57ZjenaleHi there
 we are new parents to a lovely senegal baby girl 14 weeks old....
 She is very tame and very happy little girl and we would like to get her used to a harness asap as she flys to the both of us on command and we would like to take her places with us i.e visiting family and so on...
 Can anybody tell us what size would we need to get for her?
 any advice would be greatly appriecated

 Jen and Alexhttp://parrotlife.editboard.com/t467-what-size-harnessFebruary Results.2012-03-17T09:45:35ZLoki's Dad.Hello everybody, here we go for February.

 I've looked at all the images, ablely assisted by my deputy judge, Tegan, and as usual, any one of them could've won, for different reasons, so if you don't place, please don't lose heart, as there's always next month.

 Here we go then, in reverse order, as always.

 in third for February :-

 well done birdslife

 and in second place,

 well done Bob

 and the winner, what a lovely photograph, spot on.

 nice one gordons.http://parrotlife.editboard.com/t465-february-resultsHelp with parent reared second hand MSC2012-03-14T20:52:22ZblacksheepHi Guys

 I've had Elvis for about a year and a half now, we got him when he was just turning 3 from a family who didn't have time for him. He's just about 4 1/2 now. He's generally a good boy, but when he doesn't get his way he starts attacking anyone near by.

 I have tried just about everything. He use to cuddle up to me and be a good lad, but now wants nothing to do with me since I had to take him to the vet, he only wants my husband's attention, and he gets it in small sessions, prob about 10 minute cuddles each, but when husband puts him back on his stand or tells him no the biting starts. We've tried time outs, we've tried a spray bottle when he strikes at the cage or us, but its just getting to be to much.

 He's in good condition over all, has loads of toys and loads of time out of the cage. He eats all sorts of foods, fresh - pellets - seeds and cooked foods. He just can't seem to get past the biting.

 Husband is at the point where he just wants him gone, I can't blame him - I am tired of being bitten too. I'm with him more than 6 hours a day for out of cage play time, but he has no interest in me. I've ignored him when he bites so its not a game, but husband tends to shout at him and wont take it that shouting etc can be what's causing the issue. I think it is, but I think neither of them have changed in the last year, they are unlikely to change in the next year, so it may be best to send him to someone who has the patience to deal with him.

 I feel bad, and I don't know what else to do. I am trying everything I can find and read, and he has improved, just not enough for everyone in the house to be happy.

 Any advice, or is it time to find him a new home?http://parrotlife.editboard.com/t456-help-with-parent-reared-second-hand-mscHarrisons2012-03-09T23:31:14ZblacksheepSo, I've read the booklet Bob kindly gave me, and gone through the samples. Elvis is not keen. I tried all of the conversion methods, and he's just happy to starve and wait it out lol little snot.

 In the end just to use it up I powdered it and added it to his omelet with some frozen peppers. He LOVED IT. So a friend sent me some of the Harrisons Pepper stuff and that went down well! He's really keen on it, but won't eat it by its self. So instead he gets some cockatiel mix, some flaked almond or other nuts that I have around, and Pepper Harrisons for breakfast, followed by Johnston&Jeff Low Sunflower mix for lunch and whatever we have for tea - normally some sort of pasta with veg etc.

 I've tried cutting back on the cockatiel mix, but the harrisons is thrown on the floor and he has a strop lol. At least he's eating it, right?

 Also, Breakfast goes in the big bowl on the left, never on the right, if it goes on the right it goes on the floor. He likes to watch the fish when he eats breakfast. Lunch/Dinner goes on the right, so he can watch us when he eats. Breakfast treats (flaked almond etc) goes in the treat bowl by his sleepy perch. This is the Law of the Elvis. However, he has little treat bowls everywhere that I randomly fill with nuts, treats, paper, toys etc, for him to forage around in during the day when I am gone, he loves this. I sometimes tuck Harrisons in them as well, and its eaten from there as a treat - he just seems to think its not food, just a treat lol

 Anyone else have a picky bird?

 Oh, and Harrison's Parrot bread - could I mix in the Harrisons Pepper and some other things for a breakfast bread? Could I make up a load then freeze it and use as needed? Was thinking of making it in little muffin tins, defrost the night before and warm up carefully for breakfast? He loves a warm breakfast, I don't always have the time to do it for him, but lately I've kept baby food jars of various frozen veg around, warm them up and serve in his "breakfast treat bowl" at the weekends, so thought if I can freeze the bread and warm when needed he can have that for a daily breakfast with his other bits.

 Really, I can't blame him to be honest! I know its good for him, but if I got pellets every day I would just throw it out as well. None of my pets tolerate pellets very well to be honest, I've tried with all of them! The rabbits did really well on special bunny pellets, but in their older age they're back on mixed food, but they'll all have pellets *with* something, just not on their own! I always make out how wonderful these pellets are, and have even eaten Harrisons with a smile to get Elvis to try it, while I'm not keen, he is lol.

 So maybe mixing is the way forward with him? (what a discombobulated post, sorry guys!!)http://parrotlife.editboard.com/t462-harrisonsshredding toys2012-03-05T17:31:56Zjuleswell not exactly toys,but jasper likes nothing more than to sit with an old envelope (i tear off the sticky bit) and shred it to pieces

 i've bought him one of those algave? wooden chewy toys for his birthday so i'm hoping he'll take to that to give him a change  http://parrotlife.editboard.com/t439-shredding-toysbangles and tubes2012-03-05T17:12:29Zjulesa few weeks ago i bought jasper some of these and at first he was scared of them (typical grey,me thinks) now he wont leave them alone

 this last week he has got through all four bangles and has started on the tubes now,this morning he even went in his cage to get another one out to chew up. he has never done this before

 these are going on my next order as he seems to love them  http://parrotlife.editboard.com/t466-bangles-and-tubesHoliday! Well, soon, anyway!2012-03-01T19:37:44ZblacksheepHello All!

 I am going to the US this Christmas, for around 3 weeks *eek* I've not been in years and defiantly not since getting Elvis! Anyone know of any parrot holiday homes for parrots who don't like parrots??

 Bob I don't know if you guys could take him? I know the Midland site says about holiday homes, but he's a hand full! He really needs someone who knows parrots! I have a pet-sitter who will come to the house a few times a day to feed him and so on, but it wouldn't be fair for any of them to be at home alone except 4 times a day to be fed and checked :/ I am hoping my in-laws will take our dog, my mate can pop in to feed the cats and rabbit - who couldn't care less who it is as long as there is food and they are left alone  so that just leaves His Majesty, The Elvis.

 Maybe having to deal with loads of other parrots and proper parrot savvy people would do him some good? :/ I could ask my in-laws to watch him too - they have his spare cage at their house, but I know they wouldn't have a clue what to do with him if he misbehaved, escaped or so on. Neither would my pet-sitter, he's alright feeding him over a weekend, but is afraid of birds, so wouldn't let him out for a play and so on.

 Many thanks!http://parrotlife.editboard.com/t459-holiday-well-soon-anywayFebruary Competition2012-03-01T09:07:17ZbobPost your photos for the February Photo Competition here.
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Black Oakland firefighter alleges profiling by city cop
Updated 8:13 am, Thursday, September 4, 2014
A black Oakland firefighter said he was the victim of racial profiling when a white city police officer kept his hand on his gun while temporarily detaining him and his two sons at a fire station, mistakenly believing he might be a burglar.
The Aug. 15 incident traumatized his sons, said fire Engineer Keith Jones, 43, of Oakland, who filed a formal complaint with police internal affairs and the Citizens' Police Review Board.
"I do feel racism played a part in this case, just by the treatment of my kids," Jones said Wednesday. "He was in the same crouched position, ready to pull his gun."
But Oakland police officials said the officer's response was "within policy," and they released a video from the officer's city-issued chest camera that appeared to contradict some of Jones' account.
In the video, Jones can be heard telling the officer, "I respect what you're doing" and, "It's not a problem."
The incident happened at 10:45 p.m. Aug. 15 as Jones and his sons, ages 9 and 12, returned from a Raiders game at the Coliseum. While driving past Station 29 at 1016 66th Ave. in East Oakland, Jones, who is based at another station, noticed the garage doors were open and decided to close them.
Oakland police officials said the Fire Department had contacted police that night, asking if an officer could check the station's doors because they might have been accidentally left open by firefighters who responded to a call.
A police service technician arrived first, found the door open, saw two boys inside and asked for support from officers.
When the officer arrived, he approached Jones' children and, according to the video, said, "Put your hands up, turn around." One boy can be heard crying.
Jones said, "His demeanor and everything, and the way he was in the crouch position, his face, he was ready to pull his weapon during the whole time of the communication."
Jones, a 16-year firefighter for the city, told the officer who he was. The officer had him slowly take out his identification while keeping his hands visible, then verified he was a firefighter.
Jones said the standoff could have ended earlier had the officer listened to him. He said he believes the fact that he is African American and the officer is white was a factor.
The officer, who was not identified by police officials, can be heard on the video apologizing to Jones and his children.
"I'm sorry for the scare," the officer said.
"No problem," Jones replied.
Henry K. Lee is a San Francisco Chronicle staff writer. E-mail: firstname.lastname@example.com Twitter: @henryklee


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An online chat with Star Wars producer Rick McCallum has revealed several minor plot spoilers, a year ahead of the release of the sixth instalment, Episode III, next summer.
Readers of a spoiler-sensitive disposition should click away now. Still here? You have been warned. Expect an underwater duel between Ewan McGregor and droid assailants, a villain wielding light sabres in each hand, visits to many different planets, and - perhaps unsurprisingly - a downbeat ending.
McCallum also revealed that the film will feature a scene in which Anakin becomes Darth Vader, and an explanation of the meaning of the name. He said David Prowse, who played Vader in the original trilogy, would not be back in the black suit.
Meanwhile, itv.com drops the biggest spoiler of all with the news that Christopher Lee's Count Dooku dies within 10 minutes of the opening credits.
Watch this space to have the experience of watching the film even more comprehensively ruined over the coming 12 months.


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By Jon Wiederhorn
Pretty much every fan of Ed Sheeran or Game of Thrones knew Sheeran would cameo on the premiere episode of season seven on Sunday (July 16). Yet he still surprised viewers by appearing not only as an actor but a singer.
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No, there was no "Galway Girl" or "Shape of You." Sheeran, who played a traveling soldier that had been stationed in King's Landing," sang, "For hands of gold are always cold/ but a woman's hands are warm."
"That's a pretty song. I've never heard it before," remarked Arya Stark (Sheeran fan Maisie Williams).
"It's a new one," he replied. "
Fans who are up on all things Game of Thrones might have known Sheeran would burst into song. Before the program aired, composer Ramin Djawadi teased the segment. "It's pretty cool," he told Billboard. "He sings a piece that I wrote with lyrics that came from the book."
Here's a clip of Sheeran's performance: