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Sometimes an employer will write a job posting as a way of promoting an internal employee, though they have to post it as an open req for staff, so it doesn't look like favoritism(sp?).
Pssst, wanna buy a bridge? Those absurdly specific job listings are to justify H-1B's. Promotions are promotions, and no one sees them as favoritism unless favoritism was the basis for the promotion. Absurdly specific reqs would be seen as favortism, if one favored Bob, when everybody knows Charlie does a better job and has all the necessary skills.
In at least one case it was to promote an existing employee. Me.
My boss quit. His boss agreed I should take over, but corp. policy requires a job posting published for 5 days. The two of us sat down w/ my resume and wrote a description very unlikely to be matched by anyone else. 5 days later HR let my promotion go through and the posting disappeared.
It's not about Bob vs Charlie, it's when you want to promote Bob but corporate/government policy demands you have a public listing and review external applicants. That happens very often in big companies, but in reality the person who is already employed there, experienced in the exact subject matter and in line for the promotion will with 95%+ probability get it. Often there's only one internal candidate because everyone knows if that person wants the job, they'll get it. Same thing if you have to hand off a purchasing decision, if people have already decided on a solution they'll write a very detailed requirements document that only one product could possibly fill. It's simply so that if people don't have the authority to make the decision they'll try disqualifying all other options.
The "To hire specific people" may be spot on. Sometimes an employer will write a job posting as a way of promoting an internal employee, though they have to post it as an open req for staff, so it doesn't look like favoritism(sp?).
It may be to hire specific people, but it might also be to get someone that can immediately do the job without a whole lot of re-training
and requesting new or different equipment or new software. Perhaps this comes right back to hiring specific people.
Not every employer is willing tu pit up with the 6month retooling and retraining period that bringing in someone new withe their own pet tool set and their own hardware demands. Many know the job can be don with the tools at hand, and the systems can be main
After reading your post, there is not enough of money you could pay me to get me to work for you, qualified or not. None. Zero. Zilch. Nada.
If you had my dream job, and it was a perfect match for me, I wouldn't take it. Because I would spend my entire paycheck on therapy.
Not. Worth. It.
If you want a robot, build one, jerk.
The only people who take jobs where they're doing exactly what they've always done are people who have been kicked out of doing exactly what they've always done.
More competent staff have a constant interest in learning new things and if you're not willing to offer that in the job you're not going to get competent staff who can take your IT forward.
Your philosophy sounds like an awesome way to ensure your company remains consistently mediocre in terms of IT at best, or on the path to obsolescence at worst. Certainly though you're never going to have an IT department that can compete with companies that are forward thinking and looking to constantly improve though.
Hiring people who don't know everything about the job is the best thing you can do, it's far better to have someone who is a highly competent fast learner with a genuine fascination with what they're doing because it's new to them than it is someone who is bored of it but "does it because it pays" and has shit productivity because they frankly don't care about the job, just as you don't care about their needs either.
You're right that jobs are about getting work done and tasks completed, it's unfortunate that you're entirely unaware of the needs of people required to optimise this. Maybe you're staying afloat, maybe you're struggling, maybe you're even doing well right now, but I guarantee you that your attitude is sacrificing you profit potential, and I guarantee you you're only one of those little upstart's startups away from having the rug pulled right out from under your business.
This. The more specific the req the more easily you can say "no one in the country is qualified to fill it" and get an H1-B.
Your impression is correct. My immigration law professor talked about this during our visa lectures. The company will find an H-1B candidate they want then the corporate attorney writes a job app matching that person. Bingo, no one matches the description and you can then hire your H-1B.
this is not the process to get an h1b candidate. this process is to process a green card. it's a labor certification process.. for the sake of "labor protection", the employer has to say to the government..look i didn't find any citizen or permanent resident for this job.
Apparently you know more than an immigration law professor.
If the law professor really said what is reported above then the professor is wrong. H1B is based on a quota. There is no requirement to advertise the job to prove that you cannot find an American.
You mean: he knows more than someone who anonymously reported stuff he was allegedly told during an alleged visa lecture given by an alleged expert. This is called hearsay, I know this for a fact because it has been confirmed by this guy next door who once went to law school (I think).
I'm afraid there's far more concrete evidence. Take a look at the video of the presentation by a law firm on how to hire H1B visa holders while skirting the edge of US law.: it's quite an infamous seminar.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCbFEgFajGU&list=PL126DD55E0E6CD89B [youtube.com]
I've dealt with employers who used such tactics. it's not the only reason to have an extremely specific resume: I've helped create job descriptions that were "wish lists" of job skills, lists that we knew we could not possibly afford if one candidate had them all. But we'd accept 3 out of 5 with demonstrated flexibility.
I'd be interested in meeting this immigration law professor.
It's already hell to find qualified candidates who can operate the specific and possibly unique IT infrastructure in your organization (for example, if you're a Cisco shop you probably want somebody who knows Cisco rather than somebody who only knows Juniper, but you *might* take them if you can't find anybody else) and H-1B visas are in very small supply relative to the need for that. If the company doesn't already have an H-1B visa allocated to t
It's so Evil, it's super Evil.
I'm under the impression that the more specific a tech job requirement is, the more likely it was written to target one person, such as a specific foreign citizen on an H-1B visa. That or the company just wants to be a cheapskate, wanting the new hire to be productive from day two instead of taking two weeks to train him or her.
This is exactly it. Extremely specific job notices satisfy the requirement of posting the job and finding no qualified citizen or resident, allowing the importation of the H1B worker. Unless you're applying for the job to satisfy unemployment insurance requirement, no point in even applying.
I'm under the impression that the more specific a tech job requirement is, the more likely it was written to target one person, such as a specific foreign citizen on an H-1B visa.
This does happen, as employers themselves have told me.
However, I think it's more common that they're just idiots. I work in a large tech company, and applied for internal reqs (no labor department requirements. And many job listings are as restrictive as OP describes. Months later, they still had not been filled.
That's because the H1B they were hoping to hire got a job elsewhere.
Yeah, those are basically your options.
If it's an immigration thing they already believe they have the right person and they just now need to write a job spec that no one else will meet in order to get the visa.
If instead of that specific dodge, it's general policy, then you are looking at a common hiring strategy geared around hiring someone that in theory already has all the specific knowledge needed. That almost never really works, and usually those jobs seem to cycle quite frequently. Somewhere there is
A lot of jobs require domain knowledge, meaning that they aren't all that hard, but require a few complex tasks to be repeated over and over. Employers are able to train someone faster if they've been doing similar work.
On the other hand, you're a lot better off as an employer with a smart person with no experience in the field than you are with an idiot who's been doing the same job for years. That understanding hasn't seemed to trickle up toward management just yet. Maybe closer to the point, a manager can't tell a qualified candidate from a blowhard, or an unqualified one from someone who's simply insecure. So they settle for domain knowledge and hope for the best.
You might do better looking at startups. They aren't all ramen and 15-hour workdays, and the environment's usually more conducive to good technical work.
We are currently hiring, instead of listing specific requirements our posting includes 3 assignments matching the kind of work the worker would end up doing (3 different languages and domains). Want to work for us, show us your skill, we are tired of receiving hundreds of "I'm the best certified programmer".
So far it's been a nice way of weeding out the crowd.
Usually when it is a very specific requirement it is an Open Request that matches very well to a target candidate. Depending upon laws, contracting or sub contracting regulations, there is a requirement for an open job offer, and it can't be just given to the person that was targetted for the hire.
There are lots of reports of this problem. HR departments screen resumes and in order to screen down to a manageable number, they specify (and match for) very specfic requirements.
Unfortunately, HR departments don't understand the hiring managers' actual requirements, leading to job posting that (for example) specify "x years of experience with Y language" when the language has not existed for x years.
1) A lot of times, job listings to the public are a required formality when there's already an internal candidate wanted for the position. In this situation, the job description will be written to fit that specific internal candidate's skills as precisely as possible.
2) Job descriptions are crap anyway. If you think you can do the job, apply. If the company doesn't give you an interview because they asked for 5 years C# experience and you only have 4 years, you don't want to work for them anyway. That kind of hellish determination to strictly follow paperwork never leads to a fun work situation.
I disagree. A lot of job postings really are wishlists. If they have four out of five of the 'requirements' it can still be worth applying at least if you are established in your career and field and are listing some prior experience.
If you have most of what they claim to be looking for and a positive work history with good references its worth a shot anyway. The worst thing that happens to you is you spend half an hour tweaking your cover letter and uploading your CV, and then nobody calls you back. You are out pretty little if you either A need a job or B really think the position is something you like to do.
If you do get to the interview have a story to tell about how you approached something unfamiliar and got up to speed quickly. You'll use this as your answer when the question comes up, "your resume does not mention any experience with $X, what about that?"
This has worked for me in the past.
I disagree. A lot of job postings really are wishlists. If they have four out of five of the 'requirements' it can still be worth applying at least if you are established in your career and field and are listing some prior experience.
If you have most of what they claim to be looking for and a positive work history with good references its worth a shot anyway. The worst thing that happens to you is you spend half an hour tweaking your cover letter and uploading your CV, and then nobody calls you back. You are out pretty little if you either A need a job or B really think the position is something you like to do.
If you do get to the interview have a story to tell about how you approached something unfamiliar and got up to speed quickly. You'll use this as your answer when the question comes up, "your resume does not mention any experience with $X, what about that?"
This has worked for me in the past.
The problem is that a lot of screening is automated and I have little confidence that the automated screening has a "close enough" setting.
Plus, of course, it's worthless when the job requires 2 years of DB2 and the applicant has 5 years of Oracle.
The problem is, there are a lot of candidates out there now. A LOT. So we get real specific with what we want, because we still end up getting between five to ten applicants that have those things and thirty to forty who have almost all of them. If we were vague, we would receive probably between 100 and 200 applicants per job. And we're in an area that is NOT tech haveny. We're in the middle of the deep south.
I remember a friend from google telling me they receive , on the average year, around 195,000 candidates, 30% of which make it to an interview phase. That number doubles every year and a half. By being way more specific , they are slicing that number in half. Or more. Instead of ALL the google employees having to interview 50000 (which doesn't count second or third or onsites that also occur), they're trying to do far less.
Employers are facing a glut of software engineers/IT/etc. We're just knocking the numbers down to reasonable levels with these extra requirements. It'd probably be in your interest to go ahead and apply if you're close to all.. but rest assured, if you see an advert for a job that contains a lot of requirements, they will probably get 5 - 10 applicants that meet those around here.. and 300 - 400 in a more tech heavy area like the bay area.
Glut of Software Engineers? Where the hell are you pulling that from? Maybe Google has a glut of software engineers applying to them because they are a massive company in the industry, but your average or even above average software shop is starving for software engineers hence why they pay on average 60k+ to college grads and 150k to 200k to someone experienced. That is simple economics, because if there was a glut, then they wouldn't be able to command those kind of wages.
The problem is, there are a lot of candidates out there now. A LOT.
That's the exact opposite of the experience at the company I work for. My department has been trying to hire 6 software engineers with two or more years of C# experience for most of this year. So far, we've managed to hire two. Not sure what the reason is, but there is a dearth of applications from people with said C# experience.
Maybe it's that we're not a typical software company doing web stuff (we do PC apps that configure our HW products).
Maybe it's HR filtering wrongly.
Maybe it's that we're in W
I am not sure, but there has been some evidence that job seekers target almost impossibly specific requirements to make sure nobody can actually fill the job. That way they can claim that the workforce currently in the US is not enough or good enough so they can ask congress for more H-1B visas to be put inplace to get cheaper work forces.
I've had headhunters contact me with jobs. When I say that I don't meet the list of requirements in the job spec, they tell me that nobody else out there does either, but I'm close enough.
I am on the other end, I have been looking for a senior infrastructure engineer for about 6 months. We have very specific requirements that the engineer must experience with. vBlock, EMC, VMWare, Brocade, Cisco MDS, Commvault, Avamar, data center migrations, and Azure and/or Amazon glacier and a few other specifics that would be nice. Any single one of those we will let slide but not more than one.
In my opinion, IT departments have been cut so thin, I need someone with the experience on the stuff we have
You know, in the six months you've waited to find "the right one" you could've trained a promising applicant and been on your way? Now your six months behind and still waiting for the one. That, to me, means you didn't actually need day one results.
Ok. I am confused. You don't have the time to have someone on staff, helping with 50-70% of the job, but you do have time to search for 8-10+ months with no one filling the job?
Did I read that correctly?
Couldn't you have hired somebody at the lower rate you were looking for 6 months ago and trained them to be proficient by now?
You say you don't have the time to train them... but for the last 6 months, you've been short staffed, having to do the work that this new hire is supposed to be doing, and searching for and interviewing candidates? With all the time you've invested over the last 6 months in looking for the "perfect candidate" and the extra money you are paying to actually bring them on board, you likely could've just hired someone who is mostly qualified (at the lower rate) and then spend the time you would've spent reading resumes and interviewing candidates to actually train this person...then you have them at a lower rate, and they can help with some aspects of their job while they are being trained.
If you can reduce the number of candidates you need to evaluate and interview, you are saving plain money. More effective to have them do the filtering in a distributed manner.
Of course, you might miss the perfect candidate that way as well. But, you cannot really put a price to that.
What you should take from a list of specific requirements is that they don't know how to write a good help wanted ad. Contact em (a dev, not HR), be up front that you don't have what they're listing, but that you have experience in the skills behind the tools and that you learn quickly.
Because job training is a thing of the past.
There is a good reason and a bad reason.
Where I work, there is very little overlap in skills between the IT people. One person is responsible for the old IBM database, for example. It's not a relational (sql) database, so nothing I know from MySQL applies. When we replace the IBM database guy, we're going to need someone else who knows that exact system. In fact, because there are so few people remaining who know the system, we are engaging in an 18 month project to rewrite everything for MS SQL shortly before the person retires.
My own job is programming Moodle, an LMS with over a million lines of code. That's roughly equal to an entire Linux distribution. Hiring someone with no Moodle experience would be roughly similar to hiring a Linux programmer with no Linux experience.
On the other hand, I once spoke to someone who wanted to hire a "PHP guru". I tried to explain there's no such thing. What he SHOULD have been looking for would be a web PROGRAMMER who knows PHP well. In many cases, skill in the field is far more important than above-average proficiency with a particular tool, but management sometimes doesn't understand that. If the person doing the hiring isn't particularly skilled in the job they are hiring for, they just don't know what is most important. For example, I would argue that for web programming, the WEB part is super important - good programmers who aren't web programmers aren't in the habit of thinking about security at every step, or scalability, nor are they necessarily skilled at stateless programming. A manager who isn't a very web programmer herself wouldn't know that though, so the best they can do sometimes is to look for someone experienced with the tools the company uses.
Sometimes it is as others have noted: Because you are promoting an internal candidate. So ya, the requirements are tailored to that person. This isn't a pure evil "Oh we want to keep anyone else out," kind of thing but that we already have a guy who is trained and qualified on the stuff we use. So if we are to consider anyone else, they would need to be as well. There is no reason we'd want to hire someone that we didn't know, and that wasn't proficient with our systems when we already have someone who is.
My own job is programming Moodle, an LMS with over a million lines of code. That's roughly equal to an entire Linux distribution.
What are you smoking? Just the linux *kernel* is roughly 12 million lines of code. Firefox is 10 million lines of code. The GNOME desktop framework is 8 million lines of code. The GNU compiler is 6 million lines of code. Chromium is 7 million lines of code.
That's just a smattering of the packages that can be found in a linux distribution...
because he works harder and can write a paragraph in English with substantially fewer grammar and syntax errors.
Things are so complex these days that even a small subarea is its own big world.
A past requirement of "being good with computers in general" might today be an equally large job than of fully mastering some modern API.
(Context: I'm a hiring manager; my team builds big distributed software systems. Our choice of language is Scala, but the team chose to use Scala before anyone on it actually knew Scala, and we don't have strong preference for Scala for software developers we hire -- in fact, we don't look for specific language knowledge at all, but rather strong fundamentals (OOP, distributed systems, etc)).
Assuming you're not looking at a company that's gaming the system (others have talked about the whole "I want to hire/promote someone specifically but I have to post a position so I'll post a position only my preferred candidate will satisfy" scenario), the other problem -- and I think this is a bigger issue -- is that most people are just bad at ferreting out talent as part of the interview process, and therefore opt for asking about very specific skills, because testing for very specific skills is actually much easier than testing for talent, for experience, for understanding of the system. Add to that, of course, that if/when your HR group is responsible for job descriptions, quite often they can't conceive of a more flexible, open-ended description because they can't effectively measure for that when filtering resumes.
The unfortunate thing, of course, is that in the end the specific knowledge is probably not even what you're looking for -- certainly, it's not what we're looking for because what we want is the ability to solve very hard, complex, problems -- and these are the sorts of problems that are also hard to ask about in an interview, because any problem you can make significant headway on in 45 minutes is simpler than what we deal with. This really comes down to the fact that interviews are a test, a simulation of a reality (the person actually working with you), and people sometimes opt to build the interview (and the pre-interview process, like the job description) in a way that makes it easier to conduct that simulation, rather than in a way that makes it more representative of the actual thing for which you're testing. It's that "looking for your keys under the streetlamp because that's where the light is, even though you lost your keys in the dark alley" problem.
If you're working on a very specific project, you need someone with a specific skillset.
I worked for a decade in linux kernel development for embedded telecom systems. The linux kernel has 12 million lines of code...you want someone who has experience with it, at least enough that they know where to start looking when they run into an issue.
My current company is looking for people with experience with a particular open-source project, because it takes months to get up to speed and we're on an aggressive sc
We post specific 'requirements' fully aware that no applicant will meet every single one (well, it happened once when someone applied for a position after having left our group a few months prior). For us, it's more about describing what the job will entail and attracting people who wouldn't mind working with the stated technologies.
We had once upon a time not bothered listing the technologies we already knew a candidate would not have experience with, but we were inundated with applicants that made clear they were unable/unwilling to work with things they were not already familiar with.
Now we list things knowing full well applicants won't have experience, but we still get applicants and almost always they might be a bit concerned they lack the 'requirements' but they always had the will to entertain learning new things and usually seemed to have the ability to actually become proficient.
I of course have seen the more common thing, some 'public' job offer that was tailor made for a specific guy, but I know first hand some of these things are crafted with total awareness the requirements are not going to be met.
1. To get more H1-Bs in
2. To accomplish a specific, often short-term goal
3. Empire building (hiring a lot of specialists under you makes you more important somehow)
4. Limit the number of applicants
5. Increase the odds of a good match for the company
I think the first one is obvious even if it's not universally applicable. The second speaks to a larger trend of short-term goals and contracts. The third is one I experienced only recently and it turned out the actual skill and capability of the individual isn
I have hired dozens of software engineers over the years. Most of the time I get approved to hire a new staff member because i) the project is late or ii) somebody critical has just left and the project is at risk of being late or iii) its a new project that I have to quickly staff or it will be late.
I usually assume that it will take 4 to 12 weeks to find an appropriately qualified engineer, then 2 weeks for said engineer to give notice at his/her current job and then 2 months to ramp up on our existing product stack. During these 14 to 22 weeks, this new resource is either not providing any benefit to the project or is actually slowing the project down (ie during interview phase and during ramp up phase). This is always bad news and no VP ever wants to hear that velocity in his/her pet project cannot be improved for at least 14 weeks. Now imagine that I have to add another 1 to 2 months of slowed velocity while this new engineer upgrades his or her skillset (or occasionally downgrades to an earlier version). Ugh.
That is why there is a huge preference for people that know the exact tool chain and software stack that the project is already running. Time.
However, I (and most managers) personally don't care if you have some specific sub release of SomeLanguage++ 5 (for example). But you ought to have coded SomeLanguage++ professionally and well within the last few years on some significant project where you can point to some kind of value that you added. Your 2 months of SomeLanguage++ 3 experience from 2001 is not interesting to me.
At large companies, the HR department may very well screen on precise versions of a software stack. Solution: use google to figure out what is significant about that release (if anything) and how it differs from your knowledge about the stack and then add that specific version of that software to your resume. The dev manager isn't going to care that you only used PHP 5.4.3 and not PHP 5.3.25.
Even better solution (assuming its not the gov't or some massive corp): Find out who the hiring manager is and somehow get introduced to them. The devil you know. I totally prefer to hire people I have met that are known to people in my network. Why? Because I trust my network. I do not trust the Internet.
Either way, the manager will want you to be able to prove in the interview that:
a)You are a good person who is reliable, easy to work with, dependable and can hit the ground running and get me out of the hole that some sales guy dug for me
b) You have specific knowledge about the technologies that you claim to know
c) You have work experience to back up your claims
d) You have the skills and capabilities to succeed as an engineer in my organization
e) Ideally that you can do more than what is minimally required for the job
I specifically recommend that you do not complain about the job posting in the interview.
Your thinking is strictly short term.
I usually assume that it will take 4 to 12 weeks to find an appropriately qualified engineer, then 2 weeks for said engineer to give notice at his/her current job and then 2 months to ramp up on our existing product stack. During these 14 to 22 weeks, this new resource is either not providing any benefit to the project or is actually slowing the project down (ie during interview phase and during ramp up phase).
This is reasonable.
This is always bad news and no VP ever wants to hear that velocity in his/her pet project cannot be improved for at least 14 weeks.
I understand, but that is part of managing a project. I have yet to see a project that allowed for people coming or going from a company. If you're not allowing for this, you're managing incorrectly. Ironically, with poor management that puts the squeeze on the programmers that are still there, you're encouraging them to leave as well leading to a nasty circle.
Now imagine that I have to add another 1 to 2 months of slowed velocity while this new engineer upgrades his or her skillset (or occasionally downgrades to an earlier version). Ugh. That is why there is a huge preference for people that know the exact tool chain and software stack that the project is already running. Time.
I understand your frustration, but programming is a very time consuming profession. If the VPs do not understand that, then it
People in IT tend not to understand that how the rest of the world operates is vastly different.
We rightfully or wrongly think we should just learn on the job. That we have the skills in terms of general programming and people should just hire us and we will learn whatever specifics are needed.
The rest of the world simply does not work this way. They operate on a you go to school/learn a trade and then you do that specific job... and you should be able to do it. As a result, when you have people trying to hire for a technical position, the HR person will tend to put in the requirements as they know.
Now some HR people are getting about this. Some hiring managers are getting smarter and putting in more general requirements. Some HR people are getting smarter in terms of not screening so much for key words... but the general problem is the same.
The rest of the world operates very specifically.
A brain surgeon doesn't just get hired as a heart surgeon.
A divorce lawyer doesn't just get hired into a corporate law position.
A bus driver doesn't just get hired as a truck driver.
An electrician doesn't just get hired as a plumber.
A fork lift operator doesn't just get hired as a crane operator
And if you take yourself out of the tech bubble for even just a second, you would see how the rest of the world works. The amount of training someone else gets before they touch a new piece of equipment or even a process.
Again, I'm not saying how we do things is right or wrong. There are pros and cons to everything. But just understand the rest of the world operates much more like the very specific certifications that you complain about.
This was the whole fucking point of computer languages in the first place.
So that, not only would programmers NOT need to specialize. . . .
But also, so that a company that works in a niche technology would have a wider supply of workers who can easily adapt to that niche technology.
So that brings us back, AGAIN, to the main point of this discussion: HR and recruiters DO NOT UNDERSTAND TECHNOLOGY, or the workers, or the skills. Therefore, their job requirements suck.
A brain surgeon doesn't just get hired as a heart surgeon.
A brain surgeon also doesn't get hired as "10 years of experience doing brain surgery with brand X scalpels and brand Y CT scanning equipment".
They're expected to train as part of the job, and they're given a certain amount of time and money to keep current.
Funny, in the UX world, the opposite is a well known issue. That is, most "UX" job listings will say that the requirements include coding (not just front-end stuff like CSS and HTML, but you should have built your own kernel from scratch just for the love of it, and please include your github), a full range of user research experience (and show you process), proficiency is three prototyping tools (and this better look polished, though... prototypes), and mastery of Creative Suite (and show your elegant, gorgeous interfaces).
In reality, nobody does al this. And if they did, how would they fit in to your team and workflow? I suspect most recruiters and hiring managers, especially in startups, don't really know what "UX" is. And especially in startups, they think it means, "I have this wizard idea – you just have to build it." (This often correlates with the "I don't need to learn about users; I took this class in B School so I know the market.")
Hiring managers are usually idiots. They are almost always non-technical people. What does upper management do with good, team players... company men that understand what needs to get done, but have no useful skills? Management. Dude can't even program his VCR... also he still has a VCR... and he's quizzing me on how I'd write a Select statement?
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Coburn / Grossman
Timo / Carle
Mez / Schenn
looks very attractive the more and more I look at it.
And of course this is speculating that Prongs is done. or LTIR'ed.
Gus / Manning / Bourdon / Bart to rotate.
IMO Bourdon should be traded as hes an RFA

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Given the success or failure of Xbox Live gold membership depending on the user and the wonderful Plus membership that Sony introduced to encourage players to pay to play with discounted items and free games. Although it doesn't seem likely that Sony would switch up it's formula assuming that Plus is a success and would want to keep it's PS3 fans happy with free online services. But playing devils advocate let's say Sony does charge for it's core online experiences and due to the online fee they were able to improve their online structure and keep it much more secure. Would you pay?
As long as they keep doing great sales and free games... basically as long as the benefits for being a PS+ member remain intact I'd be alright with that. Currently I'm one of those suckers who is paying a subscription on xbox live because there's where most of my friends are playing
Probably. But my level of happiness would directly be linked to how much per month vs whether or not i would play online. I already pay for live and plus though...
Kill'em with kindness, it's a slow painful death.
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I too am in the same sucker boat. Hopefully like the Vita, Sony will bring us an excellent party chat system and maybe we can convince our Xbox buddies to jump aboard the PS4 train.
I will never pay to play online, period. I already pay rent, electricity, phone, and internet. Why should I have to pay to play for a service I'm already paying for. Let's not forget that we're going to be purchasing their $450+ system (Estimation) to boot.
I personally do not see Sony taking the route of the Xbox. For one, Sony has Playstation+, which they've said has been a success. You're already paying $49.99 a year for plus. The only reason I enjoy online is because I can get day one digital, and I like to talk with fellow PS users on my friends list. And I could not live without my trophy list.
i would pay for it
I already pay for it, and it's actually paid for itself. It seems like the awesome psn network games have lately been free to buy for a period for ps+ subscribers. I remember holding off on the cave, for a reason I really still can't fathom, and it became free for ps+. Same thing earlier with double dragon neon. I'm thinking if I wasn't in such a hurry to play blood dragon, I probably could have waited and found it free for ps+ in a few months time. I guess the point i'm trying to make with regards to your post is, if they made ps4 "must pay" for online services, as long as they keep the current format of free goodies and early access to beta's etc, then I would absolutely gladly pay.
Yes, but I already pay for Live and Plus. Live functions better but Plus has waaaay more benefits.
I would. But its not going to happen. I'm a Plus member now.
I pay for PS Plus.... Because of what u get back.... I don't have Xbox live because I see no reason to give them my money for things I pay for like Netflix , Hulu plus.. Exe.. And what has Xbox live given back to us ....... Jack .... Jack ***....
I would. I would also resent Sony while doing so, but I would. I'm a Plus subscriber currently and IF Sony were to go that route I would hope they make it very similar to Plus if not better so I won't resent them so much if at all :D
If they include ps+ stuff in it, I'll definitely keep paying for it. I love ps+ so far, I've had it since the very beginning.
Well, looks like I'm going to have to pay one way or another, unless I move to PC gaming. I've always been on the fence about PS+, I guess this helps me make up my mind now!


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"It's a very simple game. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. Sometimes it rains." (Bull Durham)
Wednesday, July 2, 2008
X marks the spot...
The first five Pirates got hits off Thompson, and before the night was over, Xavier Nady went yard twice and Jose Bautista once to offset 3 Cincinnati dingers off JVB. Van Benschoten's career ERA is 9.05, the highest in MLB history for a pitcher with 16 starts or more, according to Stats Inc. Ouch.
As a starter, JVB is 1-10 with an 8.82 earned run average. In 67 1/3 innings, he's given up 66 earned runs. And he's our sixth starter?
Pittsburgh called up Steve Pearce to replace Matt Capps. We have no idea why, as it left the pen an arm short, but we assume tomorrow's off day will see JVB returned to Indy and another pitcher added to the staff.
Besides that bat the pitcher eighth hocus-pocus, our only question is why Jack Splat is batting ninth and Freddie Sanchez (who sat out tonight) is batting second. Logic would dictate they flop positions, at least until Sanchez finds his stroke.
Sanchez is batting .229. His backup, Luis Rivas, edged ahead of him tonight, now sporting a .231 average. Even Adam LaRoche, up to .235, is leaving him in the rear view mirror.
Now off to Milwaukee. We suppose both teams will bat their hurlers eighth. Who needs a DH?
On the Pirate front: Pirates closer Matt Capps will be out at least the next eight weeks with a right shoulder grinch. He had an angiogram Wednesday which revealed bursitis and showed an internal rotational deficit (shoulder misalignment) as well.
He's on the 15-day DL for now, and a decision as to whether to move him to the 60-day DL be made dependent on his rehab progress. Keeping him off the 60-day DL allows the Pirates to bring Capps back early if he recovers more quickly than expected.
The injury won't require surgery. Get well quick, Matt. We don't know if we can take two months of Romulo Sanchez as a possible closer. It also ratchets up the odds that Damaso Marte, John Grabow and Tyler Yates finish up the year in Pittsburgh.
> JVB will arrive at Great American for his start tonight after having spent the night in his own home, which is a six-minute drive across the Ohio River in Ludlow, Ky. The right-hander grew up about 12 miles east of Cincinnati, in the suburb of Milford.
Oddly, Van Benschoten had never been inside Great American Ball Park, which opened in 2003, until the team arrived in town on Monday.
> We didn't note it in the post-game news, but we certainly didn't mean to underplay the fact that Jack Splat's glove had as much to do with last night's win as did his 3 hits.
He speared a two-out liner in the first, threw out a runner at home in the second inning and another at second base on a great hustling play backing up Jose Bautista in the tenth. OFs Doug Mientkiewicz and Nate McLouth made sweet diving catches, too.
> On the Keystone Kop side of the game, watching Ryan Doumit not score from second on a double and get thrown out at third on the same play but for the grace of terrible call by a rookie ump rates right up there. That and watching any Pirate try to bunt.
On the hot stove front: Ken Rosenthal of Fox Sports wrote that both the Haloes and the Rays could be looking into deals for Matt Holliday, Jason Bay, Xavier Nady, Ken Griffey Jr., or Adam Dunn. They have more than enough on the farm to get something done
On the minor league front: At Lynchburg, RF Jamie Romak kept on keeping on. He went 2 for 4 with a home run - his 14th - and two RBI. RHP Mike Crotta, 23, went seven shutout innings, allowing just three hits while notching his 7th win.
> Recent draftee Matt Hague hit his third home run and went 2 for 4 at Hickory.
On the draft front: Tanner Scheppers said he's penciled in to come to Pittsburgh on July 27 to get poked and prodded by the Bucco medicos. He expects to be healthy enough to throw off a mound for GM Neal Huntington and company while he's in town.
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- WilliamJPellas said...
Agreed completely that the Angels and Rays are the most likely trade partners for the Pirates, if indeed any significant deals are in the offing this year at all. I think it most likely that the team will deal Nady and a reliever (either Grabow or Marte but not both of them) to one of those two teams. In exchange, I think we can expect to receive 1) a righthanded starter in the high minors, either double-A or triple-A, who can step in right away, 2) a minor league first baseman rated good or better as a prospect, 3) a second minor league position player, likely a catcher. Depending on how desperate the other team is and how adroit Neil Huntington is in handling negotiations, perhaps there could be a fourth player, albeit a long shot A-baller.
But for my money, if another team stepped up and offered the kind of package I just described in exchange for Nady and Grabow/Marte, I'd do it.
Meanwhile, I don't expect the Pirates to trade Bay in addition to Nady unless someone (Toronto?) steps up and does something silly-stupendous. Nady is definitely the more likely candidate to be dealt because he'll be a free agent after '09 and The Evil Emperor is his agent. A pox on your house! Away with you!!! Uh, or something.
- July 3, 2008 at 4:33 PM
- Ron said...
An arm is crucial to any deal, Will, and while we don't think Huntington can land a Eric Beddard treasure trove, we agree that his best bet is to package players rather than sell them off singly. We'll see if the Capps injury takes the bullpen out of play. We hope not.
- July 3, 2008 at 8:54 PM


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Waltham, MA- While many athletes are competing at the ECAC/IC4A's hosted at Princeton, a few members of the Brown University track & field team competed at the New Balance Boston Twilight meet hosted at Bentley University on Saturday.
The meet was highlighted by a third and fourth place finish by Erik Berg (3:44.57) and Kevin Cooper (3:44.92) in the 1,500m run. Berg's third place time is now the third fastest all-time record at Brown and Cooper's fourth place was the sixth fastest in the Brown record books.
"It was a very nice showing tonight. Erik and Kevin have been ready to run fast for a while--we just needed to find the right race," said men's distance coach Tim Springfield. "It was good to see it finally happen. Both of them will qualify for the first round of the NCAA Championships with those times."
Henry Tufnell also set a record-setting mark in the 800m run as his fourth place time of 1:50.42 was good for fifth all-time in Brown history. Nathan Elder finished in 14th with a 1:55.31 and Reuben Feinman placed 21st with a 1:56.92.
"Henry took another second-and-a-half off the PR he set last week at Heps. He's really adapted well to our training here--which is very different from what he had experienced last year at high school in England," added Springfield. "He's dropped his PR over five seconds in a year, which is kind of remarkable. It's a bit of a longshot, but he might also qualify for the first round of the NCAAs with that mark. We'll find out on Monday."
On the women's side, Bree Shugarts turned in a ninth place time in the 1,500m run with a 4:27.89.
"Bree ran a tough race--the pace was erratic, which made it more difficult to run a fast mark," said Springfield. "But she still equaled her PR and ran an all-time Top 10 performance."


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MADISON, Wis. -- The Christmas tree that will be on display in the state Capitol rotunda is hitting the road for Madison.
The balsam fir is coming from Antigo, about 175 miles north of the Capitol near Wausau. It is scheduled to arrive Tuesday morning where it will be unloaded at the Capitol doors. It won't be brought inside and set up until Dec. 2.
Ornaments that will hang on the tree can be submitted to the state by Nov. 22. The theme this year is Wisconsin Traditions.


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Regular price: £12.09
World renowned author and speaker, Zig Ziglar has an appeal that transcends barriers of age, culture, and occupation. Since 1970, he has traveled over five million miles across the world delivering powerful life improvement messages, cultivating the energy of change. Ziglar has written 23 celebrated books on personal growth, leadership, sales, faith, family, and success, including See You at the Top, Raising Positive Kids in a Negative World, Top Performance, Courtship After Marriage, Over The Top, and Secrets of Closing the Sale. Nine titles have been on the best seller lists; his books and seminars have been translated into over 38 languages and dialects.
Corn with a Southern Drawl...... Perfect your 80's used car sales techniques with Zig Zigl-ar (yeahhh, crrrrr - fake applause - yeahhh, wooooooh! more cccrrrrrrrrr)
Hey I'm Ziiiiig Zig-lar (cccrrrrrrrrrrrr - wooh - yeah!)
I've got a Ford Cortina here, lovely little runner - I'll give you a special price 'guv', I had someone look at it just an hour ago so you'd better be quick.
Imagine yourself stroking the velour, the leather of the steering wheel in the palms of your hands. Just imagine what 'er indoors (the 'redhead') would think, eh and what about the neighbours ooohhh, aarrh.
Go on, feel it, sit inside, imagine the palms of your hands around the gear stick, feels good eh? I can let you drive this lovely little runner away today or I can deliver it for you. When's best? Tuesday PM or Wednesday AM?
Look at it's value - it'll last you five years - at ?11K that's just ?6 per day. I'll write you the receipt to say paid CASH in full to show your friends how goddam cash-rich you are. Here I've filled in the forms for you to sign at your convenience.
Now I bet I know where you're gonna drive this baby.......eh.....I'm right...........aint I............tell your fiends (sic) you got it from your uncle Ziggie!
Shocking, outdated and clich?d. I'm sorry Zig, the times and with it sales techniques have moved on. It's cheese with extra mould and an extra, extra thick crust.
Save your money - you know all of this stuff already - you learned it on the sales course you did in 1987. You remember, course you do, Whitesnake in the charts, big hair, final countdown, Richard Marx, Angry Anderson singing at Kylie & Jason's wedding, pixie boots, dancing round in circles to 'Lady in Red' - you know, you remember, the times when people actually bought an alternate close.
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Zig is the master, one of those books you can listen too over and over again! lots of great stories on how is closes the sale. if he turned up on my doorstep selling, Id just hand him the money.
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Great. Fantastic! Zig is one of the greatest. I really enjoyed this awesome recording and would highly recommended.
Zig has always been a part of my maintenance program with my selling! helps always put things into perspective in such a fun way especially when it comes to putting your customer first. Zig rocks!
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If you could sum up Closes, Closes, Closes in three words, what would they be?
I loved it
What about Zig Ziglar's performance did you like?
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> Not sure I understand your point. That current websites
> work on very legacy software ?
Yes, that's correct. Websites like youtube that look at your user-agent and throw up bogus messages about incompatibility do it for no reason (well, at least when it comes to older versions of FF). I change my user-agent and the nag screens go away, and the page renders just fine, I can watch the video's just fine, etc.
I know IE6 was a joke for at least the past 5 years and it really does botch the rendering of a lot of web content, but a lot of people running win-2k or XP-sp0/sp1/sp2 are still using it.
I don't know why Microsoft plows so much money into IE. They originally did it back in the mid-1990's to kill Netscape (which was a hollow victory for them) but when you look at the millions they've spent developing and bug-fixing IE and the issues they created by integrating IE into the very core of Windoze, what did all that get them but a lot of bad PR and bad optics from the POV of platform security, the MAC guy vs PC-guy commercials, etc. How has or how will Microsoft gain back even a fraction of what IE has cost them over the past 15 years?
But the bigger picture is that as a share of total web traffic, web-browsing has now fallen behind netflix, and as dedicated apps replace browsers on hand-held devices, and as more people connect network appliances to their TV's leaving the desktop PC in the basement to gather dust, the HTTP browser will join the usenet client on the garbage heap of discarded software.
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But the bigger picture is that as a share of total web traffic
That says nothing about how much people are browsing the web. Video takes a lot more bandwidth than browsing. The bigger picture is that people are using the internet more for video instead of cable or rentals.
More 'desktop is dying' wishful thinking. Web browsing will actually increase as more consumers get faster connections and better computers.


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Mary Lou Morales
Mary Lou Morales, 67, died Saturday, Sept. 7, 2012 at her home. Visitation will be held from 8 a.m. to 7 p.m. Sunday, Sept. 9, 2012. A rosary will be held at 7 p.m. Monday, Sept. 10, at Kiker-Seale Funeral Home Chapel. Funeral services will be held at 10 a.m. Tuesday, Sept. 11, 2012, at St. Ann's Catholic Church, Colorado City, with the Rev. Michael Udegbunam officiating. Burial will follow at Mitchell County Cemetery, Colorado City.She was a long time resident of Mitchell County, having lived in Colorado City for many years and later moving to Loraine to her most recent residence.Mary Lou is preceded in death by her parents, Esteban B. Rivera and Candelaria Rivera; her son, Fidel Silva Jr.; and great-grandson, Landon L. Herrera. She is survived by her husband, Max Morales; children, Ricky Silva and wife JoAnn of Lone Oak, Texas, Gloria Davila and husband Luis of Loraine, Texas, Mickel Morales and wife Jennifer of Trophy Club, Texas, Beatrice Morales and fiancé Jeff Nunez of Abilene, Texas, and Johnny Morales of San Antonio, Texas; siblings, Alice Hernandez and husband Thomas of Sand Springs, Texas, Josie Harvey and husband Randy of Grand Prairie, Texas, Emily Utham and Rick of Colorado City, Texas, Estefana Selvera of Grand Prairie, Texas, George Rivera and wife Alice of San Antonio, Texas, Mary Helen Cervantes and husband Efrain of Snyder, Texas, Trini Rivera of Snyder, Texas, Esteban Rivera Jr. of Snyder, Texas, Doris Candelaria Reyes of Fort Worth, Texas, Margie Davila and husband Willie of Colorado City, Texas, Terry Cervantes and Elias of Snyder, Texas, Nelly Helms and husband Gary of San Angelo, Texas, Toni Wilson of Colorado City, Texas, and Jesse Rivera and wife Misty of Grand Prairie, Texas; and many grandchildren, great-grandchildren, nieces and nephews. Services are under the care and direction of Kiker-Seale Funeral Home.Online condolences to the family may be made at www.kikerseale.com


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The Flames played a pretty good game. They had 35 shots (20 in the second period alone), they carried the play, dictated the pace, and had a few standout performances from guys like Russel, Colborne, Stajan and Brodie. However Bernier what the first star of the game and held Toronto in the game for 55 minutes. Kari Rammo? Well, he let in a couple softies and gave the win to Toronto and the hoards of fair-weather Leaf fans at the game.
"I felt that we had a good game," Flames coach Bob Hartley said. "We are not very pleased with the result, but I don't know what we could have done more. Offensively we generated a lot. Our forechecking was good. Our puck decisions in the offensive zone were very good, but Bernier basically stole the game away from us."
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ALLEN PARK — It's too early to know if the Lions will have to make a move for an offensive tackle this week.
Coach Jim Schwartz wasn't saying on Monday.
Right tackle Corey Hilliard sustained a knee injury in Sunday's loss to the Bengals. Schwartz said it's not a day-to-day type injury but also it's not long-term.
Left tackle Riley Reiff left the game, but was able to return once Hilliard was out.
"He was limited when he did return, but he was able to return,'' Schwartz said. "I kept a close eye on the sideline to make sure it wasn't a situation he was going to hurt himself or the team. He was doing his job, I think that's a little bit encouraging.''
Jason Fox has missed the last two games with a knee injury and has not practiced during that time.
"He's improving we'll see where he is. We could potentially be forced to make something. It's too soon to tell,'' Schwartz said.
Mathis, Bush roughed up
Cornerback Rashean Mathis, who hasn't missed a game, has been fighting a nagging groin injury for a few weeks and wasn't able to finish Sunday's game.
"He's no worse for wear. He really stepped in and did a nice job, he went as long as he could and was able to get us into the fourth quarter,'' Schwartz said. "That was positive.''
Reggie Bush finished the game, but afterward said his neck hurt. Schwartz said a lot of guys get stingers during a game. Bush did an appearance at a Detroit elementary school Monday.
Megatron lives
Calvin Johnson, who played in just half the game a week ago, was on the field for 91 percent of the offensive snaps on Sunday.
Schwartz said he was sure Johnson was sore after the game, but no more than the other 44 Lions who played.
"He wasn't Calvin yesterday, he was Megatron,'' Schwartz said.
Johnson pulled in two touchdown passes including a 50-yarder that was a thing of beauty.
Matthew Stafford said it was the most amazing catch he'd ever seen.


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The Trent Richardson trade took almost everyone by surprise. But in the minds of fantasy owners, the next question should have been who his replacement in Cleveland would be. Reports indicated it would be free agent Willis McGahee, and on Thursday the Browns made it official. McGahee expects to suit up for the Browns on Sunday when they face the Vikings in Minnesota.
The 31-year-old McGahee was actually fairly effective in Denver despite his age and the tread on his tires, rushing for 1,199 yards in 15 games in 2011 with a 4.8 yards-per-carry average. He followed that up with 731 yards in 10 games last season, but he broke his leg and was released after the Broncos drafted Montee Ball.
Despite those numbers, don't bank on that level of success continuing in Cleveland. McGahee is another year older, already living on borrowed time in running back years, and will be going to a vastly inferior offense. His body probably won't be capable of taking the workload Richardson had, even if his rate stats are equal or better.
However, McGahee is a versatile runner who is capable of contributing in all facets of the game. There are worse gambles for flex spots and bye-week running backs. He should be owned in almost all fantasy leagues -- not just 46 percent of them like he is in Yahoo! leagues.
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The other Browns backs, Bobby Rainey and Chris Ogbonnaya, should not be completely off fantasy radars either. Even if McGahee has something left in the tank, his age and position means he may not last the full season. At some point one of those two other backs should get a shot. Keep an eye out for which guy spells McGahee in the next few weeks and how effective that guy is. He would be worth a roster stash.
The Richardson trade was the biggest piece of fantasy news of the week, but it wasn't the only one. Last Sunday Coby Fleener racked up four catches for 69 yards and a score -- the best fantasy week of his career. It was a solid day from the second-year tight end, but it was supposed to a short-lived success because Dwayne Allen(hip) was not supposed to miss much time. However, Allen was placed on season-ending injured reserve this week, meaning that Fleener is going to be the only game in town at the position.
Fleener is not widely owned (26 percent) in Yahoo! leagues, and he's certainly worth a grab if he's sitting there on your waiver wire. At the very least, you'll score yourself a bye-week backup who just might blossom into a spot starter.


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After a journeyman career as an assistant, Prairie City-Monroe wrestling coach Cody Waddell will lead a team for the first time this season.
And although this year's Mustangs have plenty to make up for from last year, Waddell is planning on maintaining PCM's recent success for the foreseeable future.
"We're pretty young and have a lot of sophomore this year, but we expect them to step up," Waddell said. "Our goals still are to compete for the conference title. We're PCM wrestling, so we should be competing for that every year."
Waddell's career began at Guthrie Center right out of college and lasted for three years before he began coaching in his hometown at Stuart-Menlo for four years, including when it merged into West Central Valley. He then left coaching to be a referee for five years until he served as an assistant for former PCM coach Matt Teeter, where he has been the past four years.
Along with Teeter stepping down as wrestling coach, the Mustangs lost seven seniors to graduation. Four of those seniors — Dalton Kingery, Jake Tool, Bryce Wignall and Zach Findlow — qualified for state. Kingery and Tool each had podium finishes, and Kingery left with a plethora of school records.
This year's team will feature a much different, younger look. Key returners that saw action from last year include sophomores Tristan Clark (11-5 last season), Ron Marshall (8-3), Jade Coleman (6-2) Dakota Timmins (3-4) and junior Luke Cummings (2-3).
"All of those guys are coming back, so I expect them to find a spot somewhere," Waddell said. "We also have three remaining seniors, so I would expect them to contend for a varsity spot as well."
Waddell has his eyes on other underclassmen as well, including Reece Broderson in the lighter weights and Logan Luttrell in the middle. Although they aren't freshmen, sophomores Jaret Maggart and Alex Fraker spent time at the JV level last year and could make the jump this season.
Despite the general inexperience of the team, Waddell has been pleased with his wrestlers' attitude and work ethic thus far. Much of that could come from the younger wrestlers seeing PCM's recently-graduated state qualifiers and how they went about their routines throughout the season.
"We're one week into practice, but on the very first day we talked about what it takes to meet your goals and make it to the state tournament," Waddell said last week. "After six practices, I can tell you they're working hard towards those goals. I just hope to continue that."
In his first few practices, Waddell has established a slightly different mood in the room than what Teeter had the past few years. He hasn't changed things completely, however, and he tries to keep a mixed bag of all his former mentors with him as he begins his first season at the helm of a program.
"What I told the kids on the first day of practice is of the three coaches I've worked with, I'm bringing a little something from each one so it's different," Waddell said. "It's been great. The wrestling is the wrestling, but it's the paperwork and that kind of stuff that's new to me. But, I'm getting there."
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Post the nuclear crisis in Fukushima, Indian authorities have come out in full force to defend the country's plan for aggressive nuclear expansion. Heads of various nuclear agencies, both past and present, have joined the Prime Minister in a vociferous chorus on the extraordinary safety credentials of India's nuclear facilities. Can we really trust these reassurances?
Former Chairman of the Atomic Energy Commission and Secretary of Department of Atomic Energy (2000-2009), former Director of Bhabha Atomic Research Centre.Address to Members of the Legislative Assembly and Members of the Legislative Council of Maharashtra.14th March, Press Trust of India
Statement: "Compared to Japan, seismic activity is very less in India. In Japan, there are fifty-four reactors in seismic zone four and five. In USA, there are ten reactors in seismic zone five. While Jaitapur is in seismic zone three."
Statement: 'He also said that countries such as Germany, Italy and Sweden, which had decided not to have nuclear power plants, later had a rethink.'
Kakodkar is no longer making references to Europe to support his own views, as there is clearly little basis for his assurances. More country reactions to the Fukushima disaster can be seen here.
Statement: 'When asked by a member of the audience as to why solar energy can not be an alternative, he said solar energy was important but it was not available 24 hours and was not economically viable. Nuclear power plants required less land, compared to solar energy projects, Kakodkar explained.'Reality:
Chairman and Managing Director, Nuclear Power Corporation of India Limited14th March, Press Trust of India
Statement: 'Regarding the French EPR reactors which are proposed for Jaitapur plant in Ratnagiri district, Bannerjee [Chairman, AEC] and Jain said the design of EPR was based on the design experience of 58 reactors running in Europe, and when the Indian EPR will come up it would have seen the experience of five such similar plants in Finland, France, China and UK.' Reality:
Statement: 'Jain said India was uniquely placed as it had a centralised emergency operating centre with well drawn procedures scrutinised by regulators.'Reality:
It's not just in India. The two worst nuclear accidents in history were also preceded (and followed!) by reassurances of safety. Chernobyl1983 - "The design feature [of the RBMK reactor - that used in Chernobyl] of having more than 1000 individual primary circuits increases the safety of the reactor system - a serious loss-of-coolant accident is practically impossible." B. Semenov, Deputy Director General, IAEA Department of Nuclear Energy and Safety (IAEA BULLETIN, VOL. 25, No.2 (1983) p.51)
1986 - Chernobyl nuclear disaster, an accident involving a loss of coolant. The worst nuclear accident to date, and the only one classified as level 7 on the INES scale, the IAEA's scale of severity for nuclear events.
FukushimaJanuary 2011 - "Even for a nuclear plant situated very close to sea level, the robust sealed containment structure around the reactor itself would prevent any damage to the nuclear part from a tsunami, though other parts of the plant might be damaged. No radiological hazard would be likely."(World Nuclear Association, www.world-nuclear.org)
January 2011 - "Nuclear facilities are designed so that earthquakes and other external events will not jeopardise the safety of the plant. In France for instance, nuclear plants are designed to withstand an earthquake twice as strong as the 1000-year event calculated for each site. It is estimated that, worldwide, 20% of nuclear reactors are operating in areas of significant seismic activity." (World Nuclear Association, www.world-nuclear.org)
8 January 2011 - In promoting Japan's nuclear wares to Saudi Arabia, Japanese Minister of Economy, Trade and Industry Akihiro Ohata says that Japanese nuclear programs are "the world's safest".
11 March 2011 - An offshore earthquake measuring 8.9 on the Richter scale, followed by a tsunami, creates an emergency situation at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant. Radioactive material is released into the environment. The scale of the crisis is still unfolding.
28 March 2011 - "The up-to-date reactors are fully protected, and if such reactor is taken to the Fukushima location (though, I have mentioned that a few human creations are capable of withstanding a disaster of that force), an up-to-date reactor is capable of withstanding this." Sergei Kirienko, Director of Federal Atomic Energy Agency (Rosatom), Russia
6 Greenpeace activists scale the 250 feet chimney and painted the message, "SMOKING KILLS" in the coal powered Kolaghat thermal power station.
While the people of the Sundarbans have very low carbon footprints they will feel the affects of climate change more than most with rising sea levels and the increasing intensity of storms threatening the islands.
KOLKATA, India — At the same time news arrived that Al Gore and the IPCC were awarded the Noble Prize for Peace because of their work to raise awareness about climate change.
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Wednesday, July 18, 2007
SI Screws the Pooch
To quote Brent Musberger here, "Whoooooa, Nellie!"
P.S. If you didn't immediately know that was U-M's Desmond Howard, maybe this isn't the blog for you.
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- John said...
If you didn't realize that "Whooooaaaa Nellie" is actually a Keith Jackson quote, you probably should not be writing a Michigan football blog, seeing that he is the one who originally named Michigan Stadium the Big House.
- July 18, 2007 6:09 PM
- Yost said...
John. John, John, John. Please tell me you were kidding and you knew that I knew. Please.
- July 18, 2007 6:10 PM
- Skurny said...
Keith Jackson? The former Eagle/Dolphin/Packer tight end named Michigan Stadium the "Big House"?!?! Maybe I have no business posting on football blog!
- July 18, 2007 6:38 PM
- Sports on a Schtick said...
Lee Corso thinks that's awesome baby!
- July 18, 2007 7:05 PM
- The Gardiner Bison said...
Brad Nessler says that is awesome with a Capital A!
- July 18, 2007 7:26 PM
- Killing My Liver said...
Bob Davies wears a merkin.
- July 18, 2007 7:52 PM
- god of the whoppers said...
Brent Musberger can burn in hell. that osu/team penske cocksucker is a bitch. he created the bandwagon. it makes me puke.
< /life >
- July 18, 2007 7:52 PM
- Out of Conference said...
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- July 18, 2007 9:44 PM
- Out of Conference said...
Urban Meyer says, "Damn, we need to make some adjustments in the second half."
- July 18, 2007 9:46 PM
- beast in 'bama said...
So the one on the far left is Desmond Howard then, right?
- July 19, 2007 10:23 AM
- j said...
You idiots. That's a picture of the Rhondells before their NY concert. Oh wait a minute, I'm sorry, it's the Kinks. Lee Corso is the one on the far right. He was the kinkiest. Now, what's all this about posting if you don't know what's going on?
- July 19, 2007 12:18 PM
- rweiner18 said...
Cmon, guys. This is stretching it. Please tell me you know that the name is referring to the picture above it, which is clearly someone in gold pants. If that doesn't tip you off, I doubt that Ty Detmer (to the right of Desmond) graudated from A & M in '57.
- July 19, 2007 2:28 PM


text: In an effort to improve cleaning effectiveness and safety I have thrown together what has turned out to be a simple and cost effective solution. Cleaning HTs can be troublesome and dangerous with trapped pockets of air and hard to reach places with deposited layers of "filth" (also known as "soil" in the cleaning industry). Complete removal of cleaning chemicals was not easy either. I could see that a way to flush the HT from the bottom, at any angle, was going to be necessary. My solution is two #2 drilled rubber plugs (you can get these without the hole for a cleaning stopper) connected by a length of Silcon tubing. Really the Silcon is overkill in this application but I had extra laying around and I like its properties. Not only is this safe because its all rubber and tubing, but since the rubber stopper will "blow out" under too much pressure, this should help protect sensitive trees from accidental overpressure when opening the water supply. I started with 1 foot of tubing and then doubled it. No glue was used, just pulled the tubing through the stopper, worked it back and forth to smooth it out, then pulled it back until it was flush with the end. Not bad for about $5. I was going to shoot video but have no extra hands atm, so pics it is. Resources: http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/whip-tubing-all-your-questions-answered.3311/ http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/item.aspx?itemid=23884&catid=799 http://www.hometrainingtools.com/rubber-stopper--2-1-hole/p/CE-STOP02A/ http://www.midwestsupplies.com/rubber-stoppers-drilled.html Edit: I can envision a weighted, rubber coated, stand that this could be incorporated into for a hands-free washing experience Possibly magnetic feet to "stick" to the sink?


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VULNERABLE members of the community felt scared and isolated without access to their loved ones or carers, an inquiry into November's Telstra outage heard last night.
About 20 people gathered at the Lighthouse Theatre for the second federal hearing into the crippling outage sparked by the Telstra exchange fire, with members from health and welfare services detailing how they struggled to support sick and elderly residents.
Warrnambool City Council chief executive officer Bruce Anson told the hearing the council, carers and ambulance officers were given the mammoth task of contacting clients of MedicAlert during the phone meltdown.
"It took our staff and the hospital and ambulance staff a considerable amount of effort just to find out where those people were," Mr Anson said. "We didn't know where to get the list of who the MedicAlert people were and we didn't know who was home or on holiday.
"I'm not sure that you can ever solve the problem but it caused us angst in how we respond."
He said there were between 3000 and 4000 people reliant on MedicAlert in the region.
One audience member made an emotional plea for lessons to taken in how the marginalised members of society are considered in the crisis.
Alex McBurnie, who suffers from a chronic disease, told the hearing that she went several weeks without hearing from her carers or case manager. "I found it really hard, I felt like my care package just dropped," Ms McBurnie said.
She said other residents and clients on Lyndoch care packages were initially told of the outage but were then subjected to a two-week silence.
"When my email came back I found out my case manager had been emailing me which I thought was ridiculous," she said. "Our condition could have deteriorated, anything could have happened."
Other residents and housebound clients faced breakdowns and anxiety from being cut off, she said.
Those without access to mobile phones or internet struggled in the second week when landlines were still down. "No one could phone us and there was no knock on the door to tell us what was happening — things like that were not OK."
"We're on the margins of society anyway.
"Please don't forget us."
Lyndoch director of community services David Keilar said there was a struggle to maintain appointments.
"We have a day centre and rehab programs and we transport those people via taxi and transport them home after each session and we had no way of finding out about cancellations," Mr Keilar said.
There were also major concerns about fire in the 200-bed aged-care facility.
South West Healthcare mental services director Catherine Byrne said the hospital had switched to the Optus network six weeks before the exchange fire but was still affected by outside forces.
"It was the things we didn't know that we were trying to anticipate from an emergency point of view that was very concerning and confusing," she said.
"We were worried about food and fuel security."
Public submissions into the exchange fire will remain open until January 25. They can be made to www.dbcde.gov.au/warrnambool_inquiry/submissions


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The restaurant Bisque goes off the beaten track with prawns stuffed with spinach and escargots, Dungeness and king crab ravioli and sensationally, scallops in a nest of deep-fried potato.
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Tickets are $7 in advance and 10 at the door.
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Since every instance in Cataclysm has its own load screen, players know where they are going before they ever set foot in the instance. Some instances are harder than others. Some have awful trash. Some have boss fights that require lots of moving, and some have tons of ambient group damage. Depending on your role, which instance you want to see come up as your random probably changes. Some have that one piece of gear you need or that achievement you really would love to get; others make you feel disheartened as soon as the loading screen pops up.
I currently have two 85s; my main is a tank, and my alt is a hunter. While tanking anything but Stonecore, I am fairly happy. I hate the initial few pulls in Stonecore with Milhouse Manastorm and those damn guys that turn into rock elementals and have that disgusting AoE so much, and the trash pulls with the sentries later on also suck. My tank just runs the one heroic a day for the points so I can get my last piece of tier for feral and start picking up some of the moonkin off-spec pieces, so if I get Vortex Pinnacle every day and just blow through it, all the better.
On the other hand, with my hunter, every time I see The Deadmines I am actually happy. I still need the axe and bracers. Also, my hunter hasn't been 85 very long, so justice points are still useful to me.
What heroics do you hate to see pop up? What makes you hate this particular instance? Which are you actually happy to see?


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This song alone makes me want to get this game! Bowser always has the best themes!
This song alone makes me want to get this game! Bowser always has the best themes!
I REALLY love fighting games! And DOA is one of my favorite ^_^
So beautiful, melodic, with a touch of VENGEANCE!
In DOA Kasumi is my best character, but Helena is a close second. I love her themes! I'm playing DOA 4 tonight before the Harry Potter 7 premiere!
MK, SF, Sonic, all def in my top 5.
Some good links to music in this thread.
My all time fav is the music for Lei-Lei's stage in Vampire Saviour. That music is awesome. I would get rather unhappy if I did not get to fight her when I played.
Now how to do a link ......
The eyes have it.
I now have to add there is other great music in Vampire Saviour. I've just listened to others and I'm reminded of how good the others are too. I so want to play it now. lol
The eyes have it.
A friend of mine sent this to me and I think it's pretty cool. Sounds like Sonic Colors has an epic final battle.
I guess he didn't like part 1 too much so I had to search for it and I think it's cool.
Don't know why I forgot about this stupendously funny song! I sing it to my friends at random whenever I'm on xbox live lol
I myself have a good appreciation for the music in video games. Post whatever you like, share your favorites
Definitally putting this in
If I had to pick one, this would be my fav as of now.
Blizzard has some amazing music for their games. One of my very favorite is one of their Night Elf theme music tracks from Warcraft III
^So Epic.
You have to love classic videogame tunes. The original three Mario games on NES had very memorable tunes. Sonic 2 was pretty epic as well!
Newer games, Halo series has some good stuff. All the Final Fantasy games have sweet soundtracks.
The Zelda and Mario series have some of the best music out there
Classic meets modern love this song.
いつからか舞い降りた 私の蒼い天使よ
Water Land theme from Super Mario Bros 3 and the Fairy theme from the Zelda Series. Pretty much the same.
Tell me this isnt a appropriate theme for fighting your brother that killed your father the king and blamed you so he could be king instead of you.
Duck Tales for NES, the music from the moon level...
This video game music is so popular even 20 years later that dozens of people on youtube have created their own versions of the moon theme. This one is my personal favorite from a guy who made a symphony version...
Kaede Theme Samanosukes theme Samanosukes theme 2 Tenkai Nankobo theme
Little something I made
God, this one brings back memories
Two things I put together
Mass Effect 2- Infiltration
^ Great Megaman Music as usual
Final Fantasy 8 & 9 Music
Nice tracks Scealle , FF always has that nice orchestrated touch to everything they do , I like the Castle Theme one .
Probabily my favorite pieces of video game music of all time hands down
These two songs are like crack...
Yes, I do have the sheet music to both songs because a friend wanted to learn to play both of them.
Always loved the music change at 39 sec mark.
@Gemini, love Sakura's theme in EX3
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ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) — An environmental group is suing the Cuomo administration over public records pertaining to the state's communications with energy industry interests hoping to drill for shale gas in New York using hydraulic fracturing.
The Washington, D.C.-based Environmental Working Group said Wednesday that it sued because the state Department of Environmental Conservation handed over fewer than 300 documents when it requested public records in March.
The group said the records were a "paltry" amount compared to the number of public documents the agency's staff generated in discussions with gas-drilling representatives.
"Given the high stakes for New York and the rest of country in this matter in regards to drilling, we thought this was the clear next step in order to shed further light on the process," said Thomas Cluderay, the group's assistant general counsel.
Cluderay said the documents the group did receive from the state indicated there were significant "gaps" in the records of communications among DEC staff and energy industry representatives about the state's ongoing planning for fracking regulations.
Administration spokesman Richard Bamberger said Wednesday that Gov. Andrew Cuomo's office is reviewing the lawsuit.
The DEC is completing work on an environmental impact review and new regulations for shale gas development using horizontal drilling and high-volume hydraulic fracturing, also known as "fracking." Cuomo has given no definite deadline for the DEC's review to be finished.
Opponents say fracking will adversely impact the environment and quality of life in areas of New York's Marcellus Shale region where energy companies want to drill for natural gas. Health, environmental and political groups have called on Cuomo to ban fracking.
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ST. CHARLES – St. Charles North's Quinten Payne and St. Charles East's Dom Adduci are two of the area's finest guards, and both displayed their considerable talents Saturday night in an Upstate Eight Conference River Division boys basketball game.
With Payne pouring in 22 points and Adduci countering with 20, the difference in the 62-49 victory by the North Stars on their home court may have been that Payne got a little more help from his friends.
"I thought Quinten played within our system with his teammates very, very well," North coach Tom Poulin said. "Nothing really looked forced, so I thought he did a real good job of just playing the game within the game."
Payne started out hot from the outside, hitting on five of his first seven shots from the field, helping the North Stars (13-8, 6-4 UEC River) jump out to a quick nine-point first quarter lead.
"I thought we did a great job as a team tonight of defending, and when I missed a couple shots in a row, my team picked me up on defense, so we just kept building [the lead]," Payne said. "Even though we missed a shot, we still ran back and got a stop, so I give credit to my team for doing a great job on that."
That tough man-to-man defense kept Adduci quiet early, but he connected on a pair of 3 pointers toward the end of the quarter to cut the deficit to three. Kyle Swanson stemmed that rally by the Saints (13-8, 6-3) by drilling a 25-foot shoot at the buzzer to put North up 18-12 heading into the second quarter. That started North on a 10-0 run, capped by Payne's pull-up jumper in the circle.
Poulin thought North's trapping full-court press contributed to his team's fast start, even though it didn't cause many turnovers – East had eight in the game, three less than North.
"This past week we put in a full-court press," Poulin said. "There was something lacking in our intensity, so we said one way to guarantee some intensity or energy early in the game is to press."
The North Stars also scored the last seven points of the half, including a basket inside by Chris Preocanin three seconds before the break that Payne assisted on with a great pass off a fake jump shot.
Payne gave North its largest lead of the night at 42-25 midway through the third quarter by hitting a trey from the left wing, but Adduci then began a furious East comeback by hitting a floater in the lane. That sparked a 17-3 run by the Saints.
"Dom was great for us," East coach Pat Woods said. "He shot real well tonight, which is good. I just thought he needed some help offensively finishing at the end. Early on, I thought we had a couple people that had some opportunities that just didn't capitalize. Cole [Gentry] played a better second half, but we need more from some other people."
Gentry, East's outstanding sophomore guard, scored eight of his 10 points in the second half. He was the only Saint other than Adduci to reach double figures.
Adduci's 3 point play on a drive-and-scoop shot with 6:51 left in the game pulled East to within 45-42, but that was as close as the Saints would come as Payne answered 16 seconds later with a reverse layup off a nice pass by Swanson.
Adduci got East back within four with three minutes to play, but Payne again responded quickly on the other end, beating a double team in the low post and getting fouled in the process. He converted the ensuing free throw to put North up 51-44.
At Poulin's direction, Payne said he attacked the basket more late in the second half rather than relying on his perimeter shooting.
"I missed a couple long jumpers in the second half, so then … we just tried to get me going to the rim and get a couple fouls," Payne said. "I thought that was a great call by coach trying to get me to the rim because that's really my game, trying to get guys off the dribble or get guys in close-out."
The North Stars made nine straight free throws down the stretch to seal the victory, including six by Swanson, who was brilliant for the second straight night, scoring 14 points and grabbing 11 rebounds.
Boys basketball: North's depth a Payne for Saints
ST. CHARLES – St. Charles North's Quinten Payne and St. Charles East's Dom Adduci are two of the area's finest guards, and both displayed their considerable talents Saturday night in an Upstate Eight Conference River Division boys basketball game.


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I didn't think Palms had radio... Are you thinking of infrared, by any chance?
With Kenwood having introduced the TH-D7A handheld radio [kenwood.net] with integrated APRS and simple packet function, there are other choices for compact packet operation, too.
73 de KB3DXS
Try posing your question to the group on the HTAPRS mailing list. It is a discussion list created for the Kenwood TH-D7A, and the question you have would fit right in.
Good luck! If I had a palm, I would definately be attempting to do what you are doing using my D7A (coolest little durn radio I've found).
Right now I use my D7A with a Tripmate GPS unit as a standalone tracker in my vehicle (and backpack once in a while).
73 and good luck!
OmniSky [omnisky.com], currently in beta, is selling a Palm V Mistrel modem for $299, and free CDPD Internet service (through your PalmOS) until the end of April 2K. After their service goes live it is guaranteed to not cost more than $50/month for unlimited usage, and beta testers get 15% off of whatever they decide to charge.
If you're inside their coverage area (they are really using local providers like AT&T, GTE, Bell South etc.) you can browse the web, send/receive email, read newsgroups, telnet, etc.. I even use PalmVNC to take control of Windows desktops (with the appropriate s/w installed on the target machines)...from anywhere...for administrative purposes of course.
I'm really happy with the service, it's not perfect, and their Palm software needs work...but it is beta...ain't going to be perfect.
I've developed some PQAs that let me deliver content from our client's databases (via Java Servlets) straight into their Palms (though it could go to Windows powered devices too...).
Cool stuff.
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