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Former Rutgers student Dharun Ravi could face 10 years in prison and deportation to his native India after being convicted of bias intimidation. Ravi used a webcam to spy on his roommate, Tyler Clementi, having an intimate encounter with another man. Clementi killed himself several days later.
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Limo seized in arrests over alleged drug ringBy Erin Parke
An eight-month operation targeting hard drugs in Western Australia's north has culminated in 16 arrests and seizures worth almost $500,000.
The operation, which is ongoing and expected to result in further arrests, targeted those bringing methamphetamine into the Kimberley.
It involved more than 50 police officers and has resulted in 57 charges so far.
Among those arrested was Raymond Douglas Ranford, 44, who police allege coordinated meth distribution in Broome.
Police prosecutors provided an insight into the detailed planning that went into the drug raids during his court appearance where he faced 11 drugs-related charges.
In arguing he should be denied bail, prosecutors told the court Ranford was storing drugs in the bush outside Broome and making trips back and forward to sell it in the town.
They said the quantity of meth he is alleged to have been caught dealing, more than 400 grams, and the drugs' purity, up to 58 per cent, were both unusually high for the region.
The court heard Ranford had close ties to Thailand, and they had evidence he had previously travelled on flights under a fake name.
The magistrate eventually agreed to bail but required Ranford post a $200,000 cash bail deposit, which his lawyer dismissed as "akin to refusing bail".
Because the charges are serious enough to constitute drug trafficking offences, police have been able to seize assets.
So far they have frozen $210,000 in a bank account under Ranford's name and seized a stretch limousine valued at $120,000.
It is understood he had been hiring the vehicle out for weddings and school balls.
Depending on the outcome of the court proceedings, Ranford could be stripped of the assets permanently.
His arrest appears to be the tip of the iceberg for the Broome detectives.
Within 24 hours they had executed warrants on more than a dozen homes and businesses, and charged a total of 16 people with drug possession or dealing.
One of them is believed to be an 80-year-old man.
A suppression order requested by police means the ABC cannot report details of the way in which police gathered evidence again the group.
The arrests come just a week after police intercepted a package containing methylamphetamines at the Broome Port Office.

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The court process postponed again! The health state of Archbishop Jovan deteriorated!
On April 26 the current year, the politically motivated court hearing against Archbishop Jovan of Ohrid, the rest of the Bishops, monastics and faithful people of the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric, was once again postponed! The last court hearing of this process was held on December 11, last year, and since then, five months in a row, the court hearings are being postponed, with the purpose of imposing pressure upon Archbishop Jovan of Ohrid and the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric!
At the event of the appearance before the court yesterday, it was determined that the health state of Archbishop Jovan has been seriously deteriorated and that one month ago a specialist doctor has issued his findings that Archbishop Jovan should undergo surgery. It was concluded that the opinion of the specialist doctor had been approved by the court, but the investigative prison where Archbishop Jovan is being held in detention, locked in a cell for 23 hours per day, for one whole month is not provided him with the basic health protection!
Obviously, the ultimate goal of the pressures that the unrecognized Macedonian Orthodox Church (MOC) and its schismatic archbishop are imposing, is the final destruction of Archbishop Jovan and the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric. The pressures consist of the following: the unrecognized, state-sponsored MOC and its schismatic archbishop are the sole reason for all accusations, rigged court processes and imprisonments of Archbishop Jovan in the last ten years, and recently their demands are expanding to include the whole of the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric! In the meantime, the government is facing international reports on the violation of the basic human freedoms in R. Macedonia, expressed exactly through the selective police and judiciary persecution!


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White sent packing, Davis advances to 'DWTS' finalEliminated ice dancer calls time on show 'an amazing learning experience'
Season 18 of Dancing with the Stars will not end the way many skating fans anticipated -- with Olympic gold medalists Meryl Davis and Charlie White and their respective dance partners facing off for the coveted mirror ball trophy. The semifinal was the end of the road for White and Sharna Burgess, who went out in style with an exquisite foxtrot.
"In foxtrot, we're looking for a smooth torpedo," said ballroom dancer Julian Tocker, a past member of the DWTS troupe and co-host on AfterBuzz TV's recap show. "It needs to be smooth sailing."
That is exactly what White and Burgess brought in their dance to "New York, New York," which even included a virtuoso solo for White at the end. Guest judge Kenny Ortega called the dance "indescribably delightful." The judges gave it four 10s.
"The whole thing flowed so nicely, and it was one of those dances that was fun to do from start to finish," White said. "How much we enjoyed it came across in the dance."
Their hip-hop infused samba was performed to a track from the late rapper Notorious B.I.G. Judge Len Goodman told White, "You deserve to be in the final;" the dance received four 9's.
It's been an exhausting few weeks for White -- with DWTS rehearsals, the live show Monday nights and Stars on Ice shows mixed in -- but he has no complaints.
"It's been an amazing cap to a wonderful season," he said. "Going from the Olympics to DWTS, we didn't have a moment to rest, but it was the best way to do it. Right from the get-go, it was an amazing learning experience.
"Obviously, I'm upset that we couldn't dance in the finale ... but I definitely feel very grateful for everything I did get to experience."
White said he was appreciative that Burgess did not hold back choreographically despite his grueling schedule. Through her, he was able to gain a deep understanding of the origins of many dances he and Davis have interpreted on ice over the years.
"We certainly feel we're masters of our craft, and yet there's this whole other layer. Getting to work on that and discover new things was a pleasure," White said. "We definitely have fresh perspective on so many different things, from the way you partner to the steps you have in your repertoire."
Burgess said beyond teaching and choreographing, she has enjoyed dancing with White.
"The bar is set higher, and there were very high expectations for someone like Charlie," Burgess said. "I had a lot of pressure on myself to create those amazing routines, to make it difficult enough for him and to give him the great technique on top of it. I didn't go easy on him, and I didn't take it easy on myself. I was constantly going back and looking at my work and making sure it was worthy of something that he would do.
"I wanted him to go out on the floor every Monday and do the absolute best routines that he could possibly have molded on him," she added. "I feel like we achieved that week to week."
Davis and partner Maksim Chmerkovskiy were declared in jeopardy and were standing alongside White and Burgess when the elimination was called, but it's doubtful they were in the bottom two. The duo earned 80 points for the night, which means the judges saw them as nothing short of perfect.
Tocker said he hoped Chmerkovskiy would create a story to go with the jive, and he did by adeptly portraying Elvis Presley. Their Viennese Waltz was performed to country music.
"It needs to be flowing effortlessly," Tocker said. The judges' comments reflected that they had captured the moment.
Davis and Chmerkovskiy advance to next week's two-night finale with Amy Purdy and Derek Hough, Candace Cameron Bure and Mark Ballas, and James Maslow and Peta Murgatroyd.
"For the last two weeks, I really haven't had any time to do anything except travel, skate and dance -- maybe a little sleep," White said. "That's very foreign to me. I always took the necessary down time to relax and recharge. That wasn't an option, so I'm really proud of the way we were able to come out and perform every Monday."
Her partnership with White left a lasting impression on Burgess.
"I was able to get lost in the performances and enjoy the moment," said Burgess, who hopes she'll get to work with Davis and White and other ice dancers on skating choreography in the future. "It's definitely a shame it ended one week shy of that final."


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Boosting nutrition – especially in the first thousand days of a child's life – is an attainable, proven, and cost-effective way to move to a more food secure world, said World Food Programme (WFP) Executive Director Ertharin Cousin as she joined global leaders for a high-level briefing in Washington D.C. ahead of this weekend's G8 summit.
"No one person, no one organisation can solve this problem and change the lives of the world's 170 million hungry children," Cousin said. "It's about the right partnerships. We have to be willing to create a movement."
Bringing together a whole host of nutrition champions from the U.S. and abroad, the briefing highlighted the critical successes of the Scaling Up Nutrition (SUN) movement. Some 27 countries participate in the movement that encourages global leaders to invest their nation's resources into improving nutrition and tackling child malnutrition.
Drawing on her leadership of WFP and the SUN movement, Cousin joined the President of the United Republic of Tanzania Jakaya Kikwete, the Canadian Minister of International Cooperation Beverley Oda, and the CEO of Concern Worldwide Tom Arnold for a panel discussion on the economic and development opportunity of boosting nutrition.
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The panelists praised Tanzania for the work the country has already done in putting nutrition at the top of the agenda and stressed that partnerships with the private sector bring both scale and capacity to transform the promise of nutrition into real impact.
"Partnerships enable us to scale-up programs to make a real difference and sustain agricultural improvements for the long-term," Cousin said. "It's not just about how many kids we feed. It's about how many families we help that have the resilience to face the next crisis."
Minister Oda encouraged countries to recognize the economic impact of not addressing nutrition and encouraged private sector to help close the gap. "It's not just about putting food on the table. It's about putting the right food on the table at the right time," she said.
In her opening remarks, Gayle Smith, Special Assistant to the United States President and Senior Director at the National Security Council, emphasized the importance of nutrition at this year's G8 summit.
"You can't separate food security from nutrition. I assure you the G8 will make progress on both of them," Smith said. "We know that nutrition interventions in the first thousand days of a child's life boost IQ and GDP. That's powerful stuff."


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GLEN ELLYN – Having watched Downers Grove North on tape and in person, Chad Hetlet has yet to find a weakness.
The only question is, will the Glenbard West coach be saying the same thing Friday night?
Fresh off a 68-7 victory over Morton which evened their record at 1-1, the Hilltoppers open West Suburban Silver conference play Friday against the undefeated and highly regarded Trojans.
Downers Grove North has yet to allow a point on the season, outscoring Lockport and Hinsdale South by a 73-0 margin.
"They look like a great football team," Hetlet said. "They are very stout defensively, [quarterback David]Edwards is a monster. Their O-line is good, their running backs are tough. And they are well-coached. [John] Wander is one of the best coaches in the state. When he has got a guy like Edwards, they are tough to beat.
"We will have to play our best game."
Drew Vogg, who has taken over as the starting quarterback this fall, understands the challenge his team faces.
"Downers Grove North is always a tough team," the senior said. "They have a really good quarterback who likes to run, he is a physical kid. And it's the first week of conference which is always fun."
Vogg also mentioned that Hetlet reminded the team that the Trojans would have extra incentive, having not beaten the Hilltoppers since 2006.
"That will be on the forefront of their minds," Vogg said. "We are going to have to play our physical run game and hit some play-action."
Running back Scott Andrews has seen the rankings that have Downers Grove North ahead of Glenbard West and also has heard people say the Trojans are the conference favorites. He hopes the Hilltoppers can change that.
"If we keep working hard, we can get it," Andrews said. "And we've got to out-physical them."


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Police said yesterday they had helped an Australian woman of Taiwanese descent find her long-lost biological mother in Taipei.
The National Police Agency (NPA) took it upon itself to help Jade Heffernan look for her mother after learning from a local media report last month that she was trying to find her.
Heffernan decided to search for her birth mother after seeing 14-year-old interview footage on YouTube, according to a Chinese-language Apple Daily report.
The 32-year-old Australian was quoted as saying she believed the woman in the Youtube clip of a Taiwanese woman being interviewed by the Australian TV program 60 Minutes in 1998 was her mother.
The 49-second clip features a Taiwanese woman praying in an unidentified temple and telling the interviewer that she learned from newspaper reports that the baby she had given up for adoption had been taken to Australia. In the footage, the woman shows the only photograph she has of her baby and says she wants to meet her daughter.
Heffernan said she recognized herself in the photograph and that she had a copy of it.
After watching the clip, Heffernan began to search for her mother and her plea was relayed through Facebook to Taiwan, leading to several netizen reports to the Apple Daily.
The daily said Hefferman was only three weeks old when her Australian adoptive parents came to Taiwan and took her back to their home in Adelaide. Her birth certificate said she was born on May 2, 1980, at Taipei's An Hao maternity clinic.
While Heffernan said her adoptive parents, now in their 60s, love her as their own, she had always yearned to find her birth mother. She also called for people in Taiwan to help with her search.
"I want to tell her in person that I'm fine and that I'm happy," Heffernan told the paper.
NPA Director-General Wang Cho-chiun (王卓鈞) then instructed Chang Kuo-cheng (張國政), a senior official at the NPA's Household Registration Division, to assist in the search.
Because Heffernan's birth mother mentioned in the interview that she suspected her daughter was actually sold to the Australian couple, Chang asked the Criminal Investigation Bureau to provide any information and data about baby-trading gangs arrested between 1980 and 1998.
"We also asked the Ministry of Foreign Affairs to help obtain relevant documents from Australia's Channel 9 TV station," Chang said.
From the documents, Chang confirmed that Heffernan was delivered at the An Hao maternity center in Taipei.
He then asked relevant household registration offices to provide data on baby girls born on the same day, along with data on their mothers.
After sifting through all this data, Chang managed to find a former An Hao midwife, now in her 90s, bedridden and unable to speak.
Chang said he found another woman by sifting through notarized documents.
"The woman, surnamed Chu (褚), was believed to have acted as an agent in the case," he said. "Chu had served time in prison for involvement in the baby trade, but claimed to remember nothing about the Heffernan case."
However, through an indirect source, Chang was able to contact one of Chu's friends, who told him that Heffernan's birth mother, surnamed Lee (李), was still living in Taipei.
Chang said when he visited Lee at her home, she initially denied any relationship to Heffernan and confirmed the mother-daughter relationship only after long and delicate persuasion.
Lee, now in her 60s, told Chang she had deeply regretted putting her baby up for adoption ever since she learned about 30 years ago that her daughter had probably been sold.
"She had written to the Australian authorities back then and obtained a photograph of her baby girl, which eventually helped make possible the mother-daughter reunion," Chang said, adding that the NPA will arrange a teleconference for Lee and her daughter sometime in the next few days.


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I am using XFCE in ArchLinux. Is there a Device Manager with GUI for XFCE Desktop? Similar to Windows Device Manager - when open, it will list all PC devices by groups. And can rescan ports for new devices. Once found, they can be mounted by UDEV.
For example, if I eject a USB Stick or Card by command Eject in XFCE, but won't detach it from the PC, how I can rescan it to assign device name / number again, so that it can be auto re-mounted, hopefully by UDEV. Is fstab record required to re-mount in this case?
Any other ways to rescan USB memory without reinserting it?
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As far as I know, there's no Device Manager in XFCE.
Both are need gvfs.
I assume you suggest to remount a USB Thumb with one of these packages? Unfortunately, they don't work for me, because they are intended to mount filesystems, while an ejected thumb no longer show any volume with a filesystem. It first needs to be "rescanned" somehow or reinserted to be scanned by UDEV.
Did you try your suggestion?
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Daily Links: Friday, Sept. 2
It is a quiet Friday morning here at U.S. Catholic as we get ready to settle into the Labor Day weekend. If you want to get an early start on the weekend by taking a break from your own labor, here is some choice reading material from around the web:
Hey, did you hear the one about God causing the hurricane to send us a message? Oh, that hilarious Michelle Bachman. But politicians invoking the name of God isn't all that funny, and it has to go, argues Charles Madigan in today's Chicago Tribune [1].
At the same time, some Catholics believe we have an obligation to bring our faith into the political arena. Are you doing your fair share? Take this examination of political conscience [2]to find out.
And what if we also used our Catholic teaching as an approach our country's economic woes? Adopting a "Catholic economy" may be just the solution we need, according to Anthony Stevens-Arroyo [3] over at the Washington Post.
One thing our Catholic values stress when it comes to solving economic issues is remembering our obligation to care for the poor. In his October Margin Notes column [4], Kevin Clarke says we need to advocate for the poor around the world to ensure that they're not the ones sacrificed for the sake of balancing our budget. Meanwhile Morna Murray at the Huffington Post responds to the argument that poverty just isn't "sexy" enough [5] to sell the American public on its importance.
Here's one from the Capt. Obvious files: The Diocese of Kansas City-St. Joseph, Missouri needed a law firm to tell them they've done a poor job handling sexual abuse [6] allegations, and the legal experts recommend that all diocesan employees and volunteers immediately report any allegations to authorities. What's next, bishops hiring a team of meteorologists to recommend they take an umbrella when it is going to rain?
Speaking of bishops, ever wonder who would win in a fight between the men in miters and church theologians? OK, maybe not, but our own Meghan Murphy-Gill blogs about the escalating tension between theologians and church hierarchy [7], and why it should matter to all Catholics. Also on our blogs today, Cathy O'Connell-Cahill takes Ohio's bishops to task [8] for not standing behind church teaching on collective bargaining.
Finally, to close out the week on a lighter note, at least we can all rest easy knowing that the future of print media is safe and secure. You can read all about it online, courtesy of The Onion [9].
Have a happy Labor Day, and be sure to come back Tuesday to catch up on all the weekend's news.


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Steve Elmer going to Norte Dame per Allen Trieu. DAMN!
Go Blue!!
Put it in the title.
Also, shit.
#NotreDame lands Midland (MI) 2013 OT Steven Elmer
Not particuliarly happy about this, but it seems a bit sudden. I felt like his recruitment would play out a while longer, especially having seen his interview with Tom the other day.
Wow They are likley to have a coaching change there. Oh well
"likely" to have a coaching change? I think not, my friend.
I guess I can understand it somewhat. With the OL class in 2012, he was facing stiff competition to see the field early. Tough to lose him, but I'd rather he leave the state if he isn't going blue.
this sucks...I thought he would commit way later on
Wow, I'm really surprised by this. It seemed like he had a lot more interest in UM given his many visits to AA. Also, I'd think Brian Kelly's attitude toward his players might have made Elmer's parents uncomfortable, especially given how involved his father has been in his recruitment. Ah well, things can change.
so unless he took the mayflower or an airplane I think land means commitment.
Alrighty then. Seems a bit premature but I guess so. His recruitment was just getting started. Michigan will keep recruiting him and I would play close attention.
Unless there is a coaching change. Best to move on.
Kyle Kalis begs to differ
It wasnt a given he would only see one year of playing time, he could have ended up being better than any of our OL this class and starting as a redshirt sophomore
cmon really? how can you even go there? Why would you downgrade the commits we have landed? pleny of talent there to say the least. so I'm guessing you have seen every snap of his highschool career aswell as every snap of the other lineman we have landed? who is his competition? some 200 pound DE's...just another corn fed farm boy. Plenty more where he came from.
I am now rooting for Sparty against ND.
I dont know how any Michigan fan can say this after the way sparty has conducted himself over the past 2-3 years. I cheer for everyone that plays sparty, except Ohio.
Really, you would root for MSU over OSU? All you would hear about for the next 20 years is how they did better against OSU than UM did against OSU the past 10 years. No thank you. I'll root for OSU to curb stomp the Spartans.
but you would root for an ohio team over a michigan team, even that michigan team?
Any one who grew up in Indiana has no trouble with this. It's going to take a lot more than the last 2-3 years to get me annoyed with MSU.
Any one who grew up in Indiana has no trouble with this. It's going to take a lot more than the last 2-3 years to get me annoyed with MSU.
it is the big brother's job to kick their butt. It is a push when sparty plays ND though.
All an 0-3 start by ND would do is make our UTL win look less impressive. However, now that they beat down a fairly highly ranked Sparty, all it can do is help our image nationally.
Good luck to the kid. has every right to make his decision. Lets not show sour grapes like certain other fans down south.
I made a thread earlier about Elmer who said he had a silent leader. I got it from an article from a 24/7 MSU writer on RCMB who said he thought it was Michigan. Last time I get any information from a Spartan, or more specifically, RCMB.
Hello Banner?
elmer is 2013. one has nothing to do with the other.
I don't think he would necessarily need to see another commit for the depth chart to give him trouble. Michigan has got two of the top tackles (Manguson and Kalis, even if he projects at guard), an in-state sleeper like Braden, and -- if rumors are true -- one or two more OL coming in for this class. I think Elmer (and Diamond, for that matter) are looking for opportunities to play early.
Congrats to Mr. Elmer for making the choice he felt was right. Good luck to him except when it comes to Michigan.
Sorry, but i was doing six other things and wanted to let you guys know. Congrats to Norte Dame, but as always, GO BLUE!!
The future is very bright for us.
3-0 and on to the San Diego State game.
As everyone has been pointing out, depth charts are important to recruits. Let the man dream.
Not Cool Steve, but if this sticks good luck to you in all but 4 of your games with them.
good luck kid
Am I the only one not surprised by this? I'm actually not super mad/sad considering the class we are bringing in this year. Good luck to him in the future.
Not surprised at all. He was saying the right things but he has been to ND as much as he's been to AA and most of his visits this year are to see ND even when they are on the road. He had also previously said he's a big ND fan because of his religion. Add it all together and this was a matter of when, not if.
"He had also previously said he's a big ND fan because of his religion."
Interesting ... I hadn't heard that. I could certainly see where it would matter, though. ND has (historically, at least) had a Mt. Carmel pipeline in Chicago. It's not the only one.
God or Michigan?
I appreciate the humor. After all, UMich is the school that created "Harvard: The Michigan of the East" shirts.
Still, this is a serious issue in the U.S. For example:
Sorry ... that's a bit political.
Not saying Elmer or his family is into ID ...
Best of luck to him and may his decision bring him much joy except for one game per year.
if his decision was based on our incoming class, well i'm glad he doesn't want to go blue. we have no need for players that don't want to compete.
Best of luck, Steve, in all your games that aren't against us. We still pull for our Michigan guys no matter what.
I do wonder though, if this commitment will stick. I can't feel too much of the schadenfreude when dealing with a team that we have handled well in recent years, but I can't say that the Brian Kelly regime is off to the best possible start. From "BCS Contender" (not my prognostication, but that of others) to 0-2 and facing a tough Spartan team isn't really the way they had things slated.
Honestly though, it's not just the wins and losses. I saw a Catholic group that voiced concerns about keeping Brian Kelly on as coach after the famous hissy fit. Makes me wonder how long he will be around. I have to think that if he continues to behave badly and lose, his tenure might not be so long. If ND hadn't had so much turnover and so little success over the last 20 years, I think that they might already be pondering alternatives.
If a Michigan coach conducted himself that way (and I were Mary Sue), I'd have had a meeting with him the next day or even that night. I can only let that happen once. Second time and you're fired. Also, feel free to differ with this opinion, but I think that you might be able to fire the guy for cause, thus avoiding the buyout.
In conclusion, I apologize for the ramble, but I guess that committing to ND just puzzles me, given the smart and analytical approach that the Elmers seemed to be taking. Stanford or Cal would have made a heck of a lot more sense to me of the other programs out there. Gotta go with your heart, but I just don't see the logic here.
Maybe you, and others, are just over-sensitive on what is actually a non-factor. Don't over think something that isn't complicated
As a graduate of the other Midland High school, Dow High, seeing a Midland High guy not go to Michigan and choose a crap team instead doesn't surprise me.
As a graduate of Midland High I am incredibly bummed out by this. I saw his family last night and wanted to tell them GO BLUE! but I didn't want to come off as a total creep. I could kind of see this coming a little while back when I was able to remove my blinders. His Mom being an MSU grad and his Dad loving the good guys. Easy to see how he might end up out of state. Oh well, in 16 years my son will get his Michigan offer and then we will finally see a Chemic suit up for the Wolverines. One can dream anyways....
I too watched the Chemics roll 66-0 over hapless Saginaw Arthur Hill last night. My son knows Steve at school and says he's a big Notre Dame fan. Best of luck to him. ND certainly has good academics so that should be great for him.
So what maybe he likes getting yelled at in front of America Smh u jus never know some people's motivation for there choices. We will be ok trust me we wont miss him at all GO BLUE!
You know who else committed to ND, Justice Hayes. Recruit to the bell.
I was always under the impression that Steve was Irish bound. I saw him at the Lions-Patriots game a few weeks ago, and he was wearing a Notre Dame shirt. Long way to go til Signing Day tho
The Spartans.
Best wishes to Elmer, except against us... Ha just kidding I hate ND and hope he loses every game while he's there
Maybe he's Catholic? It's a bummer, but also a long-long way away to signing day.
I can understand his decision to go to ND given their recent success turning top talent into championship teams,....wait...... what...... Just kidding good luck to you Steve.
Already said, but I'd rather have him Irish than Spartan....
Who cares, look at our current OL class.
Congrats to the kid, seemed like a decent fella. Hope he has a great time while he's there, just not against us.
Better than msu
i agree, as long as michigan is winning the recruiting battles with michigan state and ohio state, and michigan addresses every positions of need, then we will be fine.
He'd visited ND a lot, every time he went to another school he would come back and visit ND. Whether you believe me or not, The UM game last week probably sealed the deal for ND.
How so?
He looked to be a ND lean for a while based on his visits, and then UM and MSU were the 2 teams trailing. He just recently confirmed he had a leader, I would be really surprised if he felt the same last weekend and still made the UM visit.
I guess ESPN didn't get the message:http://espn.go.com/colleges/michigan/football/recruiting/player/_/id/142583/steve-elmer


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At 6'7," Richard Lucas was an undersized center, who averaged fifteen points and nearly ten rebounds per game for Don Monson and the Oregon Ducks as a senior in the early 1990s, while battling routinely against bigger players at his position in the Pac-Ten. His reputation was that of a player willing to bang inside and out-hustle his competition on the glass, dive for balls, and sprint down the court, which made him a crowd favorite and had the Oregon faithful chanting "Luuuuke."
Now, nearly twenty years later, Landen Lucas is a 6'9" junior reserve post player for national power Findlay Prep. In late July, he decided to leave the comfort of home in the Portland area and nearby Sunset High School, in order to spend the next two years working on individual skill development, preparing his frame for college basketball, and getting used to studying away from home. The decision has paid early dividends, as Landen lost a significant amount of weight immediately and has seen his recruitment heat up, with defending National Champion Duke University has begun contacting him and evaluating whether there is a fit.
Blue Devil Nation watched him at the Pangos All-American Camp in Long Beach in June, caught one of his games for the Northwest Panthers at the Super 64 in Las Vegas in late July, and recently watched him play twice at the Hoop Hall Classic. After his last game at Springfield College for the Hoop Hall Classic, BDN spoke with this son of an English professor about Duke's recent interest in him, his development and competition at Findlay, why he looks at the unique pairing of Tim Duncan and Dennis Rodman as basketball role models, and the attributes he shares with his father.
Let's start off by talking about the transition to Findlay.
You know it was a big transition and it would be anytime someone goes from normal high school basketball to prep school basketball, let alone to Findlay. It's just a big jump, even in practice. It really took a few weeks to get used to everything and settle in, but now it's fine.
Do you live in the much discussed players' house?
No, I actually live with Nigel. We're both from Portland so that helps.
Was it a big deal for your family, you know, you[private] moving away and trying to develop your game at Findlay?
Oh, yeah, it was definitely a big deal. It was hard for them to let me go, but they knew that it was the best decision, at least from a basketball standpoint.
Now, as I recall, you first visited there in late July. You showed up to the Vegas tournaments a few days early so that you could do a walk around of the campus and make sure you were comfortable. Is that correct?
Oh, yeah, exactly, I came early just to check it out and make sure I didn't step on there and get a really weird feeling (laughs).
(laughs) No, that'd be terrible.
Yeah, I mean I was already ninety-nine percent sure before I got there, but I wanted to be a hundred percent sure. Once I got there, though, I knew and it was a no-brainer with the coaches they had and the facilities they offered.
Touch on the facilities.
It's just awesome. They've got top notch everything. They provide you with everything you need to get better. It was the best decision I could make.
What do you feel is your biggest strength right now?
My strengths are being mobile and being a factor around the basket, both on defense and in our offense. Just being a presence.
What do you feel you need to work on most?
The things I think I need to work on are my explosiveness, you know, now that I've dropped the weight. This summer I want to get back in the room and work on adding strength.
You definitely look like you've lost body fat. The first time I saw you was at the Pangos this year in Long Beach.
Oh, yeah, yeah, absolutely, but, you know, we're just working on my body a lot. I know that, once I get to college, they'll have me prepared and in good shape for everything.
Touch on how your body has changed from August until now.
Oh, it's been a massive change. I dropped seventeen pounds in practically the first month. My body has dropped dramatically. The thing we're trying to do now is add weight back, but as muscle.
Do you have any sort of timeline for how you'd like to handle your recruitment?
Yeah, I'd like to narrow it down this summer and, after that, I sift it further. Then, in the fall, I'll take my official visits and decide.
So, this is not going to be a thing where, in a week, I'm gonna read that you just pulled the trigger and committed to somebody. You're not gonna do that to me, right?
(laughing) No, no, no, don't worry about that. I wouldn't do that to you. No, no, no, that's definitely not gonna happen. (laughing)
(laughs) I mean that's cool. It's your life, if you find something you like in the next week, just jump on it.
No, no, don't worry. Nothing like that's going to happen. I want to be one hundred percent sure about whatever school I'm looking at. Just like I did here, I can't be completely comfortable with a school until I walk on the campus and meet with the people that'll be a part of my life,
That's completely understandable. It'd be like buying a car without doing a test drive. I know you've visited Oregon recently. What are some other visits you taken and what ones do you have planned?
I've been to Oregon, Oregon State, Washington. My Dad was just at Arizona St., but he was there for the BCS game. I really haven't gotten to see too many outside of the West Coast. I think, you know, the more I go on the better.
Do you have any planned right now?
Yeah, actually, I have one planned right now. My mom and I are going to visit Harvard in March.
Okay, great.
Yeah, we'll try to probably visit some more East Coast schools when we're out here.
Coach Amaker is having a great season. He beat Boston College and just won against George Washington.
Yeah, absolutely, I've talked to Coach Amaker quite a bit.
Is there a player or two that you try to model your game after?
Yeah, I try to take a mix of people. Offensively, I really try to watch Tim Duncan and his mechanics.Defensively and in terms of rebounding, I would love to be anywhere near Rodman's rebounding. I know he..
No, I think he's player that you never hear mentioned because I think they're afraid of getting tied in with his off-the-court stuff, but was an excellent rebounder and defender and should be looked at by young forwards.
Yeah, exactly, I mean I'm almost afraid to say it because then people think you don't mind his attitude problems or that you're crazy.
No, I think it's an interesting answer. I loved to watch him defend and angle for rebounds.
Yeah, he loved to rebound and that's what I'm about, not his other stuff.(laughs)
Sure, he was about 6'8." How tall are you right now?
I'm 6'9" right now. So, I'm a little bit taller than him, but I would love to have that talent or develop that talent when it comes to rebounding.
Now, I know your dad played at Oregon and I want to get to that in a second, but how tall is he and how tall are you projected to grow to?
My dad's about 6'7" and my mom's six feet. Hopefully, I'll be able to grow another inch or two. I'd like to be at least 6'10" flat footed and 6'11" with shoes on.
From a position standpoint, what are most schools recruiting as, a four or five? And which do you prefer too?
You know a lot of people come up and say, "Yeah, you could play the four" and everybody wants to play the four and be outside, but what I want to do is be a five that can play the four, instead of being a four that can play the five. I like to stay inside and I love banging against other guys. I enjoy that. It's what I'm about. I love going out there and banging. I don't need the status or the other stuff that some guys are looking for. If I can help my team win just doing that, then I'm happy. All I care about is getting the W. That's all I need.
Can you tell the audience a little bit about yourself away from the court?
Well, I've talked to a lot of coaches and the thing is, as far as school goes, is that my work in the classroom has helped open doors for me in basketball as well. I've been talking with the coaches at Harvard lately. All I really do is play basketball, study, and then go to school. My mom is an English teacher and so she always stresses education.
Well, you're clearly articulate.
Thanks, I think that by succeeding in school it's really helped open opportunities.
Now, did she teach at your old school? Was that an issue for you at all?
(laughs) She taught when I was younger, but I was too young to…She's actually now an English professor.
Well, congratulations.
Yeah, she's now teaching in Portland at Portland Community College.
Who's the best player you've faced so far?
Christmas. I'm not sure his first name, but, man, was he a beast to deal with.
Rakeem Christmas. Yeah, when he's motivated and focused, he's a great shot blocker with a very good body.
Exactly, we played Christmas' team and he was just so bouncy, you know, and he had strength and size. He was really good competition for me. That was at a tournament recently.
Back to your dad, Richard, for a second, he played at Oregon in the 80s. They've just built the new arena with the, um, unique floor. Is there any pressure for you to stay in-state and play for the Ducks, either from him or the local fan base?
Oh, no, no. I mean, of course, the Oregon fans would love for me to come and play there, but, for him, as a parent, he just wants the best situation for me.
So, he's cool with wherever you go.
Yeah, he's cool with anything. He even let me talk to Oregon State, you know, so..(laughs)
Oh, alright, he must be if he let you talk to those guys.
You came out of the Portland leagues. Touch on the level of competition that that you now face, both in practice and on Findlay's schedule, which is arguably the toughest in the country. It's an amazing leap.
Yeah, it's ridiculous. i mean it sounds bad, but, when we go to games..
It's easier.
(laughs) Yeah, exactly, when we go to games, it still goes much easier than practice. I mean practice is so intense. We run them like we're competing for a championship in practice and everyone is intense.
Who do you face off with or match up with in practice? (Winston) Shepard?
Yeah, I'm usually on Shepard and sometimes (Anthony) Bennett, but, yeah, usually I go at Shepard. We've got good competition to deal with every day. It helps me get stronger and then, with our schedule, you go against other good guys. It forces you to raise your game.
In terms of AAU and camps, what are you planning on doing this year? I'm sure that a lot of programs are going to make a run at you.
I'm sticking with Northwest Panthers. I like the coach a lot and he's helped me and he understands me. In terms of camps, the only one that I'm really set on is the NBA.
You did that one last year. How was that experience?
It was awesome. It was the first time I was facing really top, top competition, you know. Dealing with older guys. For me to be able to deal with them, it gave me a sense of accomplishment. It was an honor to get invited.
Do you prefer to face-up or play back-to-the-basket?
I mean I like playing back-to-the-basket, but we're trying to work on developing a face-up game.
Yeah, frankly, it seems as though you're playing a lot more away from the basket here than you did at any of the events over the summer.
Yeah, well, I think they're trying to help me develop my game away from the basket, but I do like to face-up and see the spaces and who is helping, when they throw a zone against us.
How are things going academically for you at Findlay? Excellent, I hope.
Yeah, I mean I've got a 4.0 here.
That's good. I'm glad to hear somebody's cracking a book around here.
(laughs) Yeah, yeah.
Yesterday, the local paper here ran a story about Duke contacting you.
Yeah, it frankly came out of the blue. I never really expected it.
Nate James contacted you.
Yeah, exactly, Nate James contacted me. Nate James and we've been in touch. He's now trying to get to know me, you know, and my family.
You're in, sort of, an evaluation stage.
Yeah, yeah, and, you know, he says that, from what he sees and what he's heard, I'm the type of player they need or are looking for in the 2012 class. The thing is that the more I look at it and I've never really thought of them like that, but I think I could help their team out. The more I look at it. The more I understand it.
From afar, what do you know about their program and what's your impression of Coach Krzyzewski as well?
You know, from afar, you always hear that Coach K is "the man." It doesn't get any better than that. In terms of the program, what I hear about the program is that they, you know, they need somebody to come in and who doesn't need a lot of shots to be productive. Someone who can just get it done. So, I like to hear that. Results.
You're comfortable in an uptempo running system. They're looking to run and you're capable.
Yeah, absolutely, if they're looking to run than I'm looking to run, whatever they need, as long as I can help them win. I can fit in.
What do you know about the University?
University-wise, I don't know too much about them. I've never been on their campus and I really don't know too much about it. I do know that if this starts to pick up, I'm going to head out there and visit. Take a look, get a feel for it, and make sure that I like it.
Do you follow college basketball or the NBA fairly closely?
Oh, yeah, I definitely watch all kinds of basketball. I watch it all the time to try to pick up on things. Duke is on TV everyday or, at least, every game. That's actually one thing that they talked to me about. They're on TV all the time and their kids are in the spotlight and being interviewed and they need kids that can deal with the spotlight. They need kids that can be in that spotlight and be okay with that.
Playing at a school like Findlay helps you get used to being in the spotlight and playing in front of coaches, large crowds, and reporters.
Yeah, absolutely, that's the thing. You'd die here if you can handle the spotlight.
Do you have any brothers, Landen?
Yeah, two of them, younger ones. There's three of us.
Thanks for your time, Landen
Sure, I appreciate it. Nice meeting you. [/private]


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With a trophy in her hand, Casie Johnson smiled shyly as the crowd at Kids Unlimited acknowledged her efforts with applause.
"I'm not good at interviews," the Eagle Point senior post said moments later as she spoke with a media member.
No need for words — Johnson let her shot do the talking in the fourth quarter of the sixth annual Mail Tribune All-Star Basketball Classic on Saturday, scoring nine of her 15 points to start the period and give the Siskiyous the juice they needed to finish off a 73-61 win over the Rogues.
Johnson was given most valuable player honors — and the shiny accolade — afterward.
"This was my third year playing and we've won every year, so I didn't want to lose," she said.
Down the stretch, Johnson's competitive fire burned strongest.
With her squad holding a four-point lead entering the final frame, she rattled off the Siskiyous' opening nine points. Her buckets proved crucial as the Rogues — which trailed by 13 after the first quarter — continued their climb back into the wild contest that pits the top talents in Southern Oregon against one another.
South Medford freshman Julissa Tago, who scored a game-high 18 points, helped deny the Rogue's comeback bid with a pair of flashy layups (one off a steal) late. The Siskiyous, which have won the past two all-star games after the Rogues captured the first four, closed things out with an 8-0 run to end the possibility of further dramatics.
For her first all-star game, Tago looked like a veteran. She had 13 points by halftime using an elite-level arsenal.
"Actually it was really fun for me," Tago said. "Because every game during the season it's like down to business, we've got to get the win and it's more about getting your teammates involved and all of that. In all-star games, you can do whatever you want. It's just a lot of fun.
One of her fourth-quarter baskets was a layin where she wrapped the ball around her body on a fastbreak and finished with her left, or off, hand.
"I've been doing that move since the sixth grade," Tago said.
St. Mary's 5-foot-3 junior Emily Alvarez and North Medford senior post McKensey Peters did their best to rally the Rogues, scoring 19 and 13 points, respectively. Alvarez had 12 at halftime.
Fans voted for the starters online and Peters generated the most with 5,535. There were 22,472 ballots cast over eight days.
South Medford senior Kylie Towry and junior teammate Ashley Bolston added 10 points each for the Rogues, who trailed 40-35 at halftime.
Peters' bucket down low evened the score at 42 with 5:17 left in the third quarter, and Alvarez gave the Rogues a two-point lead about a minute later on a drive. But the Siskiyous recaptured their advantage and were ahead 52-48 heading into the final eight minutes.
That's when Johnson went to work. College of the Siskiyous' Tom Powers — Johnson's future college coach and the leader of the all-star squad — looked on with pleasure as Johnson's smooth-as-silk jumper put her team ahead 61-53.
Towry's bucket with 2:13 remaining made it a four-point contest, but the Siskiyous finished with the 8-0 run.
St. Mary's Lillian Martin and Ashland's Georgia Williams had nine points apiece for the Siskiyous.
"It's really cool to meet other girls who have the same passion as you and love basketball," Tago said. "It's cool talking to them and seeing different personalities."
SISKIYOUS (73) — Georgia Williams 9, Delanie Tally 5, Kenzie Schmoll 2, Tamika Funk 0, Julissa Tago 18, Brittaney Scott 3, Casie Johnson 15, Lillian Martin 9, Yaremi Mejia 7, Alaina Thomson 5. Totals: 27 14-22 73.
ROGUES (61) — Heather Lass 2, Kylie Towry 10, Jazmine Hancock 0, Emily Alvarez 19, Ashley Bolston 10, Baylee Toney 2, McKensey Peters 13, Sydney May 4, Becca Heard 1, Morgan Hansen 0. Totals: 24 9-15 61.
Siskiyous 24 16 12 21 — 73
Rogues 11 24 13 13 — 61
3-point goals — Siskiyous 5 (Tally 1, Scott 1, Martin 2, Thomson 1), Rogues 4 (Towry 2, Alvarez 2).
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Hot stretch sets Siskiyous girls team apart
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Good citizens pay their fair share, so it must be asked: why does Apple hate America?
No they haven't. They probably haven't been even taxed once.
Your dividends have been, sort of....
Personally though I don't think corps should be taxed at all. It gives them too much ammo to say things like 'taxation without representation' etc.
If we didn't tax corps then I think it would be easier to ban political speech by corporations.
The income to individuals from corps would then be taxable as ordinary income and we wouldn't have the whining about dividends being taxed twice, or the baloney about US taxes on corporations being high.
We also wouldn't have the baloney regarding local jurisdictions competing for corps based on tax give backs.
All in all it would be a nicer world....
Meh. If it wasn't tax give backs it would be other incentives to encourage companies to create jobs.
it would be other incentives to encourage companies to create jobs.
You mean, outside of the profit they earn on our labors? That not enough incentive anymore, now the taxpayers have to kick in a little extra, too?
God, what I would give to have a government with the sack to tell these extortionist fucks to go pound sand. Think Apple is going to risk the boycotts and bullshit if they fired all their employees? I doubt it very fucking much...
Steve Jobs benefited from all the things taxpayers fund growing up, just like all of us did. He wasn't raised by wolves in the fucking forest, he grew up in California, the nanny state to end all nanny states, and all those things these assholes bitch about today played a part in making him who he was, as successful as he was. Now that the company is successful, what, they have no moral obligation to pay it fucking forward?
I mean, that's what all this shit comes down to. These guys stood on the shoulders of who knows how many giants before them, giants that were subsidized by the tax dollars of the people of this country, and now that it's their turn to give a little back, they want to cry and complain about how unfair that idea is and do everything they can to hide their profits. It's no different than knowingly hiring illegals in this fucking country. People that do that shit, and play these fucking games where they only get paid a dollar on fucking paper so they don't have to pay taxes...they're doing more harm to our country than ANY fucking terrorist or gang member or welfare queen, and we all know this, so why the fuck are we playing this game?
I wanted to mod you up, I enjoyed your passion, but I so want you to look at your reasoing.
I am not defending Apple, it is about time you all noticed that Apple is given a pass by the media for using the legal loopholes that other companise are villified for.
Where do you git off blamming Apple or any other corporation for the disgusting acts of congress and the senate?
Those insane loopholes were mostly created years ago and are constantly polished by your elected officials to continually encourage donations to those self same public officials.
You want to blame the person responsible?
Look in the mirror, then start voting like the future matters.
Oh, believe me, I know that Congress and the Senate voted for these fucking loopholes, but that's not a valid excuse for this crap. You don't think that Steve Jobs knew that he was paying an effective tax rate well below the entry-level guys he had working 70 hour weeks? This is a guy that parked in handicapped spaces looooooong before he actually got sick we're talking about here. [edibleapple.com] He rationalized it as "Horray for me, fuck everyone else", and that's a trait you see a lot among these 'Master of the Universe' types. People all over the world metaphorically polish his knob every time the subject of Apple comes up, but rarely do people talk about what an unbelievable prick he was [politicsnotasusual.com], and I don't just mean the way he treated his employees, he treated everyone that way.
Yes, congress passed laws allowing these companies to do this shit. Congress didn't make them move their "offices" to tax havens all over the world. They didn't make them send all that money to banks in the Caribbean to hide it from the IRS. Nobody forced them to be leeches, sucking in subsidies while raking in billions. Apple's sucking up $30 million in Texan taxpayer dollars [theatlanticwire.com] despite the fact that they are literally the most valuable corporation in the fucking world [macstories.net]. They've got $10 Billion (with a b) in cash in the bank, and they still need Texans to cough up a little extra to build that fucking plant? Come the hell on. That's the extortion bullshit I'm talking about. They're taking $30 million from who knows how many social programs, schools, infrastructure...and in exchange we get what? The privilege of working for them so they can earn more money off of our labors?
I mean, an unemployed mother looking for food stamps, she's a fucking leech on society, but the most valuable corporation on earth gleefully taking huge transfers of wealth from public coffers into their private accounts is what? A goddamn pillar of the community? A company to admire? Please. They're the real leeches. Let these mother fuckers move their corporate offices to fucking China, or better yet, let them take their shit and go to Africa, far from these pesky taxes and everything else. I don't really much give a shit, but I'll be damned if I'm going to sit here and subsidize their goddamn profit margin while half the houses in my neighborhood are sitting fucking vacant because the families that lived in them lost their jobs and then lost their homes, and then, when they hit the lowest point and have to go get some sort of assistance to make sure their kids eat decent food, get called "parasites". Fuck that shit. You want to see the real parasites, go fucking read Forbes.
Vote? Even if there were real, viable choices, have to do more than vote. The Democrats are only slightly better than the Republicans. Democrats are merely corrupt. Republicans are corrupt and crazy. Don't think voting is enough to excuse you from being reflected in that mirror. Politicians can't afford to be honest if we won't back honest players.
I see people still banking at Bank of America, Chase, Wells Fargo, and Citi. Still buying from Apple, Microsoft, MAFIAA members, GE, BP, AT&T, Comcast. Still gambling that health insurance won't deny and drop us the minute we need it. We could destroy these companies astonishingly fast if we'd all just quit doing business with them. They wouldn't be so stupid as to push it that far. In mere days, they'd crawl on their bellies begging us for forgiveness, and they would quickly do all those things that they claim are so difficult to do, such as paying taxes, resisting the temptation to buy legislation, reducing executive compensation, treating customers fairly, and making up for mistakes. They do appalling things, and people shrug it off, or bend over and take it.
I'm in a little battle with a local city. They're operating one of those red light cameras programs. Naturally, they have rigged things to cause lucrative violations, rather than reduce them. They carefully chose intersections for which the yellow was already too short so they could truthfully claim they didn't shorten any yellows. How can I make them wish they hadn't done it? I went to a hearing with evidence that their yellow lights were too short, but no joy. Judge told me I could take up the matter at a later date in municipal court, as if going to a hearing scheduled at their pleasure wasn't already enough of an imposition on me. I declined. Now I don't shop in that city anymore. How many people have joined me in this boycott? Zero of course. I've tried to persuade others, but all that does is get them thinking I'm crazy for making such a big deal out of a petty traffic violation. A few concede that I've got a point, but still won't do anything. I should pay up, shut up and stop annoying others with my whining, and get on with life. Then some turn around and mutter about their cell phone contracts, or the cost of cable TV. Even the ones who also have been burned by these red light cameras still won't fight. Some even rationalize it, convincing themselves the system is fair.
An effective approach to clean up bad neighborhoods is a zero tolerance enforcement and clean up operation. Litter, graffiti, broken windows, and burned out lights no matter how trivial are all cleaned up and repaired as fast as possible. Serves notice that petty crime is not going be overlooked. The same would work against these corporations and governments. Don't let a red light camera ticket go because it's only a little money, and too much trouble to fight. We blow off even the most insane EULAs because we feel pretty good that most of the nonsense in there can not be enforced. We should instead make software companies clean that crap up. No EULA at all. At least we fight back against DRM.
I only partially agree with this. Starving big corps was possible few years ago. Then 2008 meltdown came and it became apparent that if they won't get money from you voluntarily paying for some goods/services, they'll get it anyway from you taxes (eg. bailouts), lucrative taxpayer-funded contracts (army) or by forcing bills for phony services down your throat (eg. Obama's healthcare 'reform').
Add ever-rising intimidation of citizens to this (TSA, so called "war on terror", militarization and brutalization of police forces, ever-rising incarcerated population), add dual-standard when it comes to law enforcement (Corzine/MF Global fiasco etc.) and what you get at the end is corporate fascist state. So much for freedoms and constitution.
If those corporate fucks won't get what they want from you voluntarily, they'll get it by other means. I'm not sure there is a good way to get out of this trap - peaceful civil disobedience is propably the only thing left.
I don't know that I disagree with anything that you said. But I think you missed the point of what I was saying.
Apple et al are companies that are about profit and making money. One of the side effects of these companies setting up shop in a town is there is some level of job creation and economic benefit. It is all about supply and demand, really. My main point was that taking away the possibility of tax incentives will not solve this problem because if competition is large enough and regions see it as
Taxing corporations is important for two reasons. The first obvious reason is that it raises revenue for the state. The second is that if you tax corporate income, then it is in the corporation's best interest to minimize income - i.e. to not pile up wads of cash as Apple is currently doing. It's not money per se, but the velocity of money, that moves the economy. Fat cats getting fatter is bad economics - unless you're the fat cat or one of their apologists of course.
The second is that if you tax corporate income, then it is in the corporation's best interest to minimize income - i.e. to not pile up wads of cash as Apple is currently doing.
Income. Savings. I think you might want to look up the definition of each...
If we didn't tax corps then I think it would be easier to ban political speech by corporations.
Let me explain why that isn't a good idea. Corporations are given rights under the law, not as entities themselves, but as an extension of the collective rights of the individuals that it is composed of. A corporation is formed by a group of individuals agreeing to pool resources to achieve a goal. So let's take a look at how that can play out.
You have a right to say "Screw the Government." So does your best friend. If you pool resources to say it (e.g. you make a sign, he drives you to city hall), you both still have that right. If you agree formally to do the same, you still have the same rights. 1,000,000 people signing an agreement that they have joined the "Screw Government Organization" to send 1,000 of them to DC to protest doesn't diminish the right. Forming a group to sell "Screw Government" bumper stickers doesn't reduce the group's rights to less than that of any individual. Forming a group that sells indy band bumpers stickers, and the occasional political bumper sticker, doesn't diminish the collective rights. Calling the group a corporation doesn't change things either. The name, size, profit motivation, etc do not change anything.
An so on. The basic rule is the rights of individuals can be exercised collectively. One name for this phenomena is "Corporations are people." Not a person. Though for simplicity, it's treated like a person. Because the rights of a person and the rights of a group are the same. For example, a person can own property and so can a group.
Ok, there are some exceptions. For instance, while a person can hold office, a group cannot. Same with a vote. Some rights do not scale and can't be collective. But most can.
So now look at your suggestion. How much can you restrict the rights of a collection of people without restricting the rights of individuals? Pretty difficult. Not something to be done lightly.
Your money has already been spent before too. Guess it is worthless.
These are corporate profits. Whoever actually owns the company still gets taxed on any of the value that they sell or get dividends on. So apple's rate may be 9.8%, but most people who get the remaining 90% still pay more taxes. Just not usually in the same year.
Apple hasn't paid dividends on any of their massive profits so far (though that is changing in the future). Even when they will, it will be a TINY fraction of their net income.
And capital gains taxes on investments has little to do with the profit of a company. Plenty of companies don't make a profit and their stock still goes up (since stock price reflects expected value, not current value). And you can make money selling a stock short when it goes down, which has even less to do with the company's pro
Why should anyone have to pay more tax than they're required to by law?
Corporations have more loopholes than natural people to reduce the amount of tax that they pay, but even normal people have a number of ways that they can minimise the amount of tax that they're required to pay. If these methods are perfectly legal, then why would you not avail yourself of them?
Would you voluntarily pay more tax than you are legally obliged to?
Furthermore, I can absolutely guarantee you that Apple are not the only company doing this, they're just the flavour of the month and they generate page views around here. s/Apple/Microsoft/g, s/Apple/IBM/g or s/Apple/Google/g or pretty well any other large company at all and the story will read the same.
Why should anyone have to pay more tax than they're required to by law?
Tax avoidance is different from maximising your tax entitlements under law. This is clearly avoidance.
Corporations have more loopholes than natural people to reduce the amount of tax that they pay, but even normal people have a number of ways that they can minimise the amount of tax that they're required to pay. If these methods are perfectly legal, then why would you not avail yourself of them?
Minimising your tax obligation according to your entitlements is legal and expected. Tax avoidance by setting up tiny offices in places with favourable tax laws to collect revenue is a deliberate construct made to avoid paying tax to the community, not a loophole.
Would you voluntarily pay more tax than you are legally obliged to?
The key word here is "obliged". I meet my obligation under law. If a company want to operate with all the benefits my state provides then why is i
Wake up. Almost all corporations do this. HP does this. IBM does this. Dell does this. It's not called 'hating America,' it's called 'loopholes.' If you were beholden to shareholders and you were in charge of a corporation, you would do it too, I bet. And if not...you would never be in charge of a corporation for long.
Wake up. Almost all corporations do this. HP does this. IBM does this. Dell does this. It's not called 'hating America,' it's called 'loopholes.' If you were beholden to shareholders and you were in charge of a corporation, you would do it too, I bet. And if not...you would never be in charge of a corporation for long.
Completely agree. Apple is actually far better than most: many companies pick up and move all their people to a cheaper part of the US or worse, move all operations overseas, bringing only the best and brightest and outsourcing the rest.
California is still making billions in taxes off Apple, with 13,000 employees at Apple Campus [wikipedia.org] and all the property taxes and money the employees spend generates sales taxes. Just be glad Apple is in California at all because how many phone manufactures still keep 13,000 employees in the US? Apple sells phones, computers, tablets, and a online store, they could be in the middle of China employing 13,000 people if they wanted and we would still buy iPhones.
Apple is probably the worse possible company to choose as an example of a "tax dodge". Why don't you go after Samsung, HTC, or any of the other phone manufactures that make billions in sales in the US market but have all of their operations based overseas.
Why don't you go after Samsung, HTC, or any of the other phone manufactures that make billions in sales in the US market but have all of their operations based overseas.
Maybe because they actually manufacture all that stuff overseas? The products they sell in US, those have sales tax paid off them, which is fair. But if they don't really have any substantial design, development or production here, why should they pay taxes here (from a moral perspective, not legal - legal is a world of its own which doesn't mesh well with common sense)? Heck, Samsung doesn't even trade its stocks anywhere outside Korea.
This was rated +5, Funny, right? Oh wait... are you serious? Look, corporations don't pay income taxes of any kind. Every last penny of income tax is passed on to me and you, the customers/consumers. So in reality taxing corporations is a bizarre form of consumption tax. I think a strong case can be made for eliminating corporate income tax in general, but closing personal income tax loopholes where individuals can hide income and assets in corporations. Trying to make Apple pay their "fair share," is
Just imagine all the mandates they can fund if they had all this money
Just imagine if California didn't have all of these mandates. Dow 28,000,000: The Unbelievable Expectations of California's Pension System " [wsj.com]
Good for Apple.
People are essentially pissed off because the more money someone (or something, in the case of companies) has, the more options they have.
Ordinary people, by-and-large, do not have the money to take advantage of loopholes designed to protect a lot of money since the upfront costs outweigh what they'd save. However, they also rarely even bother exercising the options they have in front of them to stop paying taxes almost completely (charitable donations, medical savings accounts, educational savings accounts
In point of fact Apple would find itself sued by shareholders if they did not use any and all methods to reduce tax and increase shareholder wealth.
Adjusting ones affairs to avoid taxes (tax avoidance) is legal.
Evading taxes that are due (tax evasion) is not.
Sometimes its a fine line and thats why corporations like Apple spends mega bucks on tax accountants and lawyers specializing it this.
As a US citizen, you can not reduce your income tax by moving abroad. Furthermore, individuals generally impose fewer costs on the government as they become richer, but companies impose higher costs as they get bigger.
And just because it is legal doesn't mean it is ethical, and the point of these kinds of examples is usually not to ask an entity to voluntarily pay more, it is to talk about raising taxes on it in the future.
Without such tactics, Apple's federal tax bill in the United States most likely would have been $2.4 billion higher last year
No, it would be the same as it is now, they'd just locate their facilities elsewhere. Whoever wrote this is an idiot who doesn't know anything about how businesses make decisions.
Yup, because Apple in no way benefits from access to the Silicon Valley job market. They could hire all those programmers in Bangalore instead, but they choose to support the Silicon Valley economy out of a sense of generosity and community spirit.
Hate the game indeed. The whole system is rigged to favor the fat cats. Obama's "job czar"??? Jeff Immelt, as CEO of General Electric, has orchestrated a situation where one of the largest employers in the US and generator of billions in profits pays a pittance (if anything at all) in US corporate taxes.
Republican...Democrat....they're all for sale to the highest bidder. And people just wink at that while the media waves their hands about who Kim Kardashian is blowing this week. zzzzzzzzzz.....
Yawn.. lets examine MS or IBM, or any major global company. about 10% tax? sounds a little high, there are business execs who pay 5%.
about 10% tax? sounds a little high
Sounds very high.
30 of 280 Fortune 500 companies paid no federal tax in 2008-10; 26 of those paid no federal tax in 2008-11; 24 paid less than 4% federal tax in 2011 alone; 15 paid 0% or less [ctj.org]
Apple doesn't even make the list...
Oh look, another story that is actually about virtually every major company in existence but it's turned into a story by replacing "every company" with "Apple" to make it sensational and generate page views. *yawn*
Cue the red/blue cultural war in 3...2...1...
One thing that makes me nervous about too much concentrated wealth is that orgs and zillionaires use it to buy political influence such that we no longer are a democracy. This is one reason why a larger portion of our GDP has been gradually shifting toward the wealthy since WW2.
If one can find a way to put a check on this, then I wouldn't be so nervous about it. The Citizen's United ruling didn't help.
"Anyone may arrange his affairs so that his taxes shall be as low as possible; he is not bound to choose that pattern which best pays the treasury. There is not even a patriotic duty to increase one's taxes. Over and over again the Courts have said that there is nothing sinister in so arranging affairs as to keep taxes as low as possible. Everyone does it, rich and poor alike and all do right, for nobody owes any public duty to pay more than the law demands."
Now, you may think the law should demand more. I would disagree with you. I don't resent Apple their ability to avoid taxation, any more than I would resent a friend who managed to escape a thief or mugger with minimal damage or loss.
Apple's legal and finance departments know their stuff, and the company is fulfilling its fiduciary duty to the shareholders (like me). I don't see why the legacy media dregs at the NYT have any issue with that, but who cares what they say?
Every dollar that Apple can keep out of government's hands is a dollar that won't be spent on killing people I have no quarrel with, paying goons to grope old ladies, or harassing terminally ill patients who need pain relief.
Or building your roads. Or educating kids. Or paying people to make sure Johnson & Johnson don't leave metal shards in your tylenol. Or making sure that insurance companies pay you when they owe you money. Or employing cops to keep your neighborhood safe. Or keeping companies (such as Apple) from dumping toxic byproducts into your drinking water. Or making sure water-bottling companies sold clean water if a company DID poison your local water. Or maintaining airports and coordinating their traffic.
But e
It's not like Apple's the only corporation guilty of evading criminal amounts of taxes. Google never pays higher than 5%, News Corp never pays more than 2% (the same guys who use Fox News to complain about taxes being too high on the rich), General Electric paid nothing and got $3 billion in tax credits, oil companies receive stupid amounts of subsidies, Amazon still ignores most sales taxes, Microsoft always pays in the single digits as well; the list goes on and on and on. Over 2/3 of major US corporations have NO tax liabilities.
Yet these same corporations still pay MOST of the taxes they owe in other OECD countries. The difference between the US and the rest of the developed world is that we're the only country with a tax system that considers GLOBAL business activities liable to taxation (obviously there are exceptions in other countries, such as INCREASED taxes for foreign employment or pollution). Other OECD countries only tax businesses based on DOMESTIC business activities. But in order to avoid having our global taxing system cause foreign business activities from having negative net profits from piled tax rates, Congress throws in a bunch of loopholes to negate the whole thing. Only it ends up negating almost all taxes on domestic activities too. This isn't an accident.
Really? Apple is not the only company who does this to leech every single cent it possibly can without "playing fair", but besides that this is the company who's douche in chief would buy a new car every 6 months just to avoid whee taxes, or denied claim for years on his own daughter living in pretty poor conditions even going as far as saying
"sterile and infertile, and as a result thereof, did not have the physical capacity to procreate a child."
partly to not pay up, partly because he had zero responsibility to anyone but himself. You think he gave a shit about federal taxes, or what corporate culture that grew into?
Why bother changing now, nothing has been done, nothing will be done, apparently it works, and the second anyone suggest's that they pay up it gets spun into "killing American companies/jobs with the ternary of socialism"
now get off my lawn
Not doing this would be a breach of fiduciary duty. As a shareholder, I would not approve them putting themselves at a competitive disadvantage by not using tax optimization permitted by law. As a citizen, I want the loopholes closed, however, so that everyone plays by the same rules.
Here's the simple reason why corporations engage in the behavior outlined in the New York Times article: _our income tax system based on Title 26, the Internal Revenue Code, encourages such activity_.
Thanks to all those complicated loopholes in the Internal Revenue Code and all the additional rulings that add up to around 70,000 pages of tax code, this is why you have millions of jobs, thousands of factories, hundreds of corporate headquarters, and possibly as high as US$15 TRILLION (!!!) in American-owned liquid assets out of the USA for tax avoidance reasons. Maybe it's time to gut the entire tax code and start all over again in one of two ways:
1) A 17% flat-rate no-loophole income tax, where the only loophole is a very generous initial earned income (wages and pensions) exemption to protect lower-income taxpayers (e.g., as high as US$46,000 for a two-adult/two legal dependent family), and get rid of the alternate minimum tax, estate tax, maybe the FICA tax, gift tax, marriage penalty, self-employment tax and taxation on bank account interest, capital gains and stock dividend payments. This is what Steve Forbes proposed back in 1996.
2) Completely phase out the income tax in favor of a 23% national consumption tax on all new goods and services sales, where business-to-business sales, used good sales, and college tuition are exempt from the tax. To help lower-income people, any legal household will get a monthly payment to cover the cost of the tax up to the Federally-defined poverty level (US$580 per month payment for the family I mentioned earlier). This is the FairTax proposal, H.R. 25/S. 13.
Under both of these proposals, American companies have all the incentive to keep as much of their liquid assets and operations in the USA as possible, since it is tax-advantageous to do so. An it also means vastly lower yearly tax compliance costs, meaning hundreds of billions of dollars spent per year in tax compliance are now freed up for more productive activities. In short, such a change will result in the next American economic boom.
I've got a bad feeling about this.


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When VJ Sleight's breast cancer returned last year, she wondered if the unusual recurrence – 23 years after her original diagnosis -- had anything to do with the controversial hCG diet that she had repeatedly followed.
The near-starvation diet, which I detailed in the Chicago Tribune story "Long-discredited hCG diet makes a comeback, allows followers just 500 calories a day for six weeks. Hoping to quell hunger pangs, dieters also regularly take human chorionic gonadotropin, or hCG, a hormone taken from pregnant women's urine.
Sleight's doctors told her there wasn't any research to support the link between hCG and breast cancer.
And some research has shown hCG can have a preventive effect. Dr. Irma Russo, who has studied the effects of hCG for over 30 years, said she and other colleagues have found that in breast cancer patients with metastatic lesions, "hCG treatment can reduce tumor size."
HCG also "prevents mammary cancer in rats and reduces tumor size in rats that already have developed mammary tumors," said Russo, Chief of the Molecular Endocrinology Section of the Breast Cancer Research Laboratory at Fox Chase Cancer Center. "Our studies indicate that hCG treatment does not stimulate the growth of preexisting tumors, whereas other hormonal stimuli, such as hormone replacement therapy (HRT) or even pregnancy can increase breast cancer risk."
In addition, Russo's research has shown that high levels of hCG during the first trimester of pregnancy are associated with reduced incidence of postmenopausal breast cancer.
Still, that's not to say hCG is safe, even at the low doses used in the diet. "To my knowledge, there are no studies of hCG safety in women with functioning ovaries and breast cancer in remission," said Dr. Rasa Kazlauskaite, an endocrinologist and preventive medicine expert at Rush University Medical Center.
In fact, it's possible that hCG could stimulate breast cancer recurrence by stimulating estrogen/progesterone production in the ovaries, if a woman is still pre-menopausal," said Kazlauskaite. "In women with functional ovaries, hCG stimulates ovary to produce estradiol, which is known to stimulate existing breast cancer growth, she said.
Since Russo's laboratory work has shown that hCG reduces estrogen receptors, "the net effect potentially may be prevention, rather than stimulation," said Kazlauskaite. "The ongoing and future studies in humans should show whether it is true."


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ICRC brings discrimination charge against Kokomo restaurant
INDIANAPOLIS – Indiana Civil Rights Commission (ICRC) Deputy Director Joshua Brewster announced today that the agency has issued a finding that there is probable cause to believe that a former employee of Rock Bottom Restaurant in Kokomo was subject to unlawful discrimination because she was pregnant.
An investigation stemming from a December 19, 2011 compliant filed with the ICRC alleging sex discrimination found that the charging party was meeting performance expectations upon her termination. Correspondingly, a Rock Bottom manager admitted that the complainant was placed on maternity leave because they were concerned about liability.
"The issue before the Commission is whether the alleging party was illegally discharged due to her pregnancy," said Brewster. "Through our initial investigation there is reason to believe this was the case. A public hearing before the Commission is necessary to determine whether a violation of the Indiana Civil Rights Law, did in fact, occur."
In order to prevail, the complainant must show that (1) she is a member of a protected class, (2) she suffered an adverse employment action, (3) she was meeting respondent's legitimate business expectations; and (4) there is a casual connection between the adverse action and the complainant's pregnancy.
A finding of probable cause does not resolve a civil rights complaint. Rather, it means the State has concluded its preliminary investigation and determined there is sufficient evidence to support reasonable suspicion that the Indiana Civil Rights Law has been violated. Indiana Civil Rights Law provides remedies, including compensatory damages and injunctive relief, such as changes in the employer's policies and training.
The Indiana Civil Rights Commission enforces the Indiana civil rights laws and provides education and services to the public in an effort to ensure equal opportunity for all Hoosiers and visitors to the State of Indiana. For more information, contact Brad Meadows, ICRC Communications Specialist, at (317) 232-2651.


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I love the fact that more and more players (White, Versteeg, ...) are calling out Bettman directly. Was it Versteeg who said that regardless how this ends Bettman has to go? He called for him to be deep sixed and I really didn't see it coming.
Hopefully the cry to get rid of this *** start getting louder and louder.


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RENO, NV - Each day the Truckee Meadows has been trapped under a strong temperature inversion our area has gotten dirtier.
Now, health officials say it's reached the point where it's impacting our health.
Thursday, our air quality was still listed as "moderate", the burn code set at Yellow, meaning residents were asked to cut back or avoid, if possible, using fireplaces or wood burning stoves.
Friday, with the inversion still trapping pollutants in the valley, pollution levels reached the "unhealthy" range. The burn code is now Red. Lighting your fireplace or wood burning stove is, for the moment, illegal, unless it's your only source of heat and you've applied for and received a special permit.
The inversion and the restrictions are expected to last into Saturday night, when forecasters are predicting a low pressure system will move into our area, clearing the inversion and the pollution out.


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"It's a very simple game. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. Sometimes it rains." (Bull Durham)
Friday, June 20, 2008
The gods must be crazy...
Zach Duke continues to look like he's figured it out, working the ball inside every so often and keeping it down. He went 7 shutout innings and even struck out 4 Blue Jays, matching the always tough Roy Halladay pitch for pitch.
And make no mistake - Pittsburgh won tonight because of Duke. This is the 10th time in the last 11 starts that he's given the Pirates 6 innings or more, and he's allowed two or fewer runs in six of his past 10 starts. Good job, Zachster.
He had an able assist from Doug Meintkiewicz, who made two great plays at third, one game-saving, and scored the game's only run after a three hit night. Maybe we'll see some more platooning at the hot corner.
Excuse us now - we're running down to church to light a couple of candles in hopes that the gods will continue their zany ways.
On the Pirate front: The Buc brass befuddled everyone by sending Marino Salas down and bringing up Nyjer Morgan. That leaves the Pirates with 11 pitchers (not that John Russell ever uses the two at the end of the bench), 1 catcher, and a 4 man bench. Get well soon, anybody.
> In one of the weirder plays we've seen, Morgan lined a baseball off Halladay's noodle in the seventh inning. It ricocheted right to third baseman Scott Rolen on the fly to end the ending (with the bases loaded, yet.) Halladay is day-to-day, but the Jays expect him to make his next start.
> Bill Mazeroski will throw out the first pitch Tuesday when the Pirates open a three-game series against the Yankees. Rub a little salt into it while you have the chance, Buccos. They might just do better by putting him in the lineup.
> What a difference PNC makes in interleague play. The Bucs are 38-40 at home, and a miserable 21-59 on the road. In fact, the Pirates last walk-off home run was against the White Sox in June, 2006 at PNC.
> The White Sox scored 37 runs, hit 10 home runs and batted .404 against Pittsburgh in the three game set. Add your own punch line.
> The Blue Jays fired manager John Gibbons today. Cito Gaston, who brought two World Series championships to Toronto, returned as manager.
2 comments:
- WilliamJPellas said...
Really a shame we're without both Doumit and Nady for this series at least. But how valuable is Doug Mientkiewicz to this team? Not only has he played both corner infield positions as well as the outfield, but he is also the emergency catcher (he was a catcher in high school). Doug never was a great hitter and he's no longer even the hitter that he once was, but he is the consummate professional and team player. A very handy guy to have around you in a fight!
- June 21, 2008 at 3:29 PM
- Ron said...
And reading between the lines, he's kinda taken Ryan Doumit under his wing and helped groom him into taking a leadership role on this club, which has been lacking a real face since...Pops?
It's a good bench for the way the Pirates are constructed - their starting eight are pretty much set in stone except for Bautista, and Meintkiewicz is pushing him. But for the spot start and PH roles, they're not bad at all, and from all I gather, pretty good heads in the locker room. They're exposed when somebody goes down for an extended period, but that's more a statement of the organization's strength than the benches.
- June 21, 2008 at 6:48 PM


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We had a taste of him today with cold, wild winds and rain.
I hear another heavy shower pounding on the roof tonight and there'll be snow flakes in the air tomorrow, so the weatherman says.
But we've had a few days of perfect gardening weather this week - precious gifts to be savored and enjoyed.
The autumnal show is almost over, but oh my, it's been a joy to behold and we have much to be grateful for!
A tangerine and russett cascade
The golden memories of sunsets and twilight
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text: For the second time this week, golf carts were stolen from the Pleasantville Golf & Country Club and found outside of the city with heavy damage. Pleasantville Police Chief Duane Bates tells KNIA/KRLS News that six individual golf cart storage areas were broken into, and three golf carts were stolen, found later three miles east of town. On Tuesday, two golf carts and a six wheel utility cart were stolen and located south of Pleasantville, after the carts were believed to have been used to damage residential mailboxes. Bates says anyone with information related to these crimes should contact the Pleasantville Police Department at 515-848-3112.