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(CNN) -- Mila Kunis is taking the sexy crown away from Rihanna, as Esquire magazine has named the 29-year-old actress the new "Sexiest Woman Alive."
Kunis, who poses seductively in just a pair of pants on the cover of Esquire's November issue, was more revealing in the inside pages ... about politics, privacy, the time when a Hollywood exec threatened that she'd never work in the industry again, and why she doesn't think she's funny.
Kunis, who's known for her comedic timing in movies ("Ted," "Friends with Benefits") and TV ("That '70s Show," "Family Guy"), told Esquire that she actually doesn't consider herself to be a hoot.
"I think I stumbled upon doing funny things, but I'm not funny. I just know how to deliver a joke," Kunis said. "There are people who naturally exude humor and are constantly saying funny things, and there are the people who know how to deliver a joke. It's a learned skill. Through twenty years of doing this, I practice it. I think that the second you think that you're funny is when you stop being funny."


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Though his career at Albion College recently passed under the checkered flag, Jake Lane can safely say that he has already accomplished his goals even before he enters the workforce.
A 2012 graduate from the Detroit suburb of Northville, Lane originally stepped on campus as an English major with a goal of writing for a publication like Car & Driver. He took the step of turning ambition into reality in the closing days of his junior year as a study break during final examinations led to the development of Car Wars, which Lane describes as an online car show.
"I went to watch the movie 'The Social Network' about the developers of Facebook," Lane recalled. "From there, I felt inspired to design a website that would attract a large group of people who all share my passion for cars."
He hired a social network developer with his own money last summer and launched the site in early August. He plans to make his start-up money back and even turn a profit by selling advertising.
"[Writing for an automotive publication] is still on the table, but I have diverted from that," he said, adding he has a year-long internship lined up with Miniature Precision Components (MPC) in Walworth, Wis., after graduation that he hopes will pave the road toward acceptance into an MBA program. "I will learn about every branch of that business, including management and engineering. Each section lasts a couple of months and then I make a presentation to the board about what I learned. Landing a job with an automotive parts supplier sounds ideal to me."
A passion for cars isn't the only thing that sets Lane apart from others with a B.A. in English. He's an outgoing individual who is a member of the Delta Tau Delta fraternity and competed for the swimming and diving team as well as the canoe club, which recently defended its national championship in the American Canoe Association's National Collegiate Canoe and Kayak Championships on the Tuckasegee River in Dillsboro, N.C.
Lane credits faculty member Danit Brown for improving his writing skills while still following his interest.
"My stories are fictional and my last one was about drag racing," Lane said. "Danit helps me refine the sentence structure I use on the description aspect to make my writing about cars more interesting.
"Most of my friends who are English majors are writing novels," Lane said. "They don't have much time to hang out with people [outside of class]."
Picking Up Spanish as a Second Major
Lane said he took Spanish classes in high school, but he picked up the language as a second major during his junior year when he realized he had completed enough units that all he would need to meet the major requirement was to spend a semester abroad.
Despite already having the internship with MPC lined up after graduation, Lane believes knowledge of another language will not only allow him to become less dependent on his writing, but make him more marketable as the United States becomes more culturally diverse and as the economy continues to become more interconnected on a global scale.
"I realized during my first year at Albion that unlike the most of the English majors here I didn't want to spend my whole life writing," Lane said. "I wanted to stay in the automotive field, but I wanted to direct my path toward management.
"Latin Americans are a growing demographic in this country and I believe the ability to speak Spanish will set me apart [from job competitors] because it is becoming more spoken in this country," he added.
Lane completed the Spanish major the first semester of his senior year when he lived in a suburb of Madrid. He said living outside of the city forced him to become immersed in the language, and he found a nearby pool and joined an intramural soccer league to try to remain in shape in preparation for his return to Albion and the swimming team.
"I was most comfortable when I went out with my host brother, and speaking Spanish was fun," Lane said. "[The knowledge of the language] stuck when I was out having fun. I was just OK in class.
"There was a pool across the street from my house and I got my host brother -- who had never swum before -- to go with me, so I think I was a good influence," he added. "We swam twice a week together and went to the gym every other day. I love the swimming and diving team and it was unfortunate to miss a significant part of the season, but I found a good way to be fit."

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LSU offered a kid this week who just finished the 7th grade. Whoa Les.
LSU offered a kid this week who just finished the 7th grade. Whoa Les.
Can you blame Les? He's just getting ahead of the curve!
sooner or later there will be regulations around this. Since it is not committable they should just change the name. Rename it from an "offer" to a "statement of interest" or something suitably boring.
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got to lock you into this
Honestly contacting a kid, that isn't even in high school yet, is absurd.
What could possibly go wrong?
At the rate Hoke is recruiting, U-M might be scouting middle schoolers soon.
No PSU jokes, please.
I got my first offer today. It was from NWOSU. Never heard of it? Me either until last week. Brady Hoke should come knocking on my door any day now.
" He stands 6'0, weighs 218 pounds ... and reportedly ran a sub-4.5 40-yard dash." - from the article
I am almost three times this kid's age, and am shorter and weight less. Yikes. Still, making an offer to someone who has yet to play high school ball seems more than a little bizarre to me. Does Les really think that he needs to think that far ahead?
Seems crazy and feels illegal, but my guess is that the NCAA doesn't have rules for taking to the Justin Bieber set
It at first appears as though it's a stupid move, but when you really think about it, it's kinda smart. The kid is probably not even 14, weighs 218 pounds, and runs a 4.5 40. The chances of this kid becoming a very good prospect, if not elite, are very high. He's probably a kid you'll wish you hope to have a good relationship years down the road. This offer virtually guarantees that he'll be watching LSU football and keeping tabs on it for the next while. Best case scenario, this kid ends up being a top prospect and his ties to LSU help to land him. Worst case, the kid turns out to be nothing special and LSU stops having contact with him.
Kid verbally commits and Miles gets egg on the face when he revokes it. Or his star falls and he takes up a roster spot. Actually then they will just grey shirt him and the egg on the face doesn't matter anyways.
Holy Moses Les!
He would, providing he plays a 4th year, be in the class of 2021. And how can he be projected at any position right now? The kid could grow to 7' in the next 5(!) years
He checked in at 6 foot; 205 lbs; he actually ran a 4.46 forty yd dash; his vertical was 34 inches; his broad jump was 9 feet 3 inches; during 7on 7 drills he defended some of the best receivers in the region...
Is Sandusky out of jail already and recruiting for LSU?
that shi-cray
Is almost 20 pounds and can drain a boob in about 5 minutes. Why you not offer Mr. Miles?!?????!!?
this is insane.
beyond the measurables already posted, fwiw, the kid doesn't look that young.
Dude looks like hes 30
Sheesh... He is the football version of Greg Oden...
What are his parents feeding this kid?
Kid's an animal!1one!
My guess on the boy is he's been held back a grade somewhere along the line. Most likely he is 14 already.
I've coached middle school
Football. I've seen plenty of 6' 8th graders and 200 pounders most of which are fat lineman. What separate this kid is his speed if it's truly what it's reported. 4.5 fortys in 8th grade is very rare.
Basically he has matured faster than everyone in his age group. And he's been given extreme god given size, speed, and ability.
Ok Les. That's either creepy, or dumb. Either way its pointless. "I heard a rumor an NFL stars wife is pregnant, offer them a scholarship, his dad has elite speed!"


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All it took was one shift back at center for Bruins forward Tyler Seguin to gain an even great appreciation for his longtime linemate Patrice Bergeron.
"First shift, I was like 'Oh, Bergy. I appreciate you a lot more now,'" Seguin said after the Bruins' 1-0 win against New Jersey Thursday at TD Garden. "Definitely, I don't know, I guess the first period I felt it a lot more. But then as the game progressed I felt like I could use my speed a bit more and it was just about finding those areas. It's one thing from being a centerman going into the NHL and being a centerman. But it's another thing going from center to wing in the NHL and then going back to center, so it's going to take some adjustment."
With Bergeron out indefinitely with a moderate concussion, Seguin might have a decent amount of time to make those adjustments. Playing center requires covering more ground and taking on added responsibility. In his first game back at his natural position, Seguin also had to work newcomer Jaromir Jagr, on right wing, into the mix together with longtime left winger Brad Marchand. Seguin skated for a team-high 18:01 of even-strength ice time among forwards.
"Tyler is obviously realizing, probably, how tough it is for [Bergeron] to play that position, because playing in the D-zone, there's a lot of territory to cover as a centerman, and when pucks are going from one side to the other, he wasn't always there," coach Claude Julien said. "That's the work in progress, and that's what we expected, and that's what he's going to get used to. But overall, that line was fine."


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CELINA — Three suspects, including a Spencerville man, have been arrested for their respective roles in a home invasion Feb. 25 near Mendon.
During a news conference Wednesday morning, Mercer County Sheriff Jeff Grey announced the arrest of three people believed to be linked to a home invasion at 12617 Dutton Road, just north of Ohio 117 near Mendon. Two people were inside the residence at the time — Kathy Fair, 47, and her father William Fair, 73.
Following an extensive investigation, which included more than 250 tips, Patricia Ann Abrams, 32, of Batavia, Joshua M. Moreo, 31, last known address of Spencerville, and Michael E. Davis, 30, of Cincinnati, were arrested by investigators in connection with the crime. Abrams and Moreo were arrested on May 16 and Davis was arrested on Monday.
Abrams, who has been indicted on one count of aggravated burglary, a first-degree felony, one count of aggravated robbery, a first-degree felony, two counts of complicity, first-degree felonies, theft, a first-degree misdemeanor, and complicity, a first-degree misdemeanor, is currently being held in the Mercer County Jail. She is scheduled to appear in court Wednesday afternoon for a bond hearing.
Grey said deputies interviewed Abrams in Clermont County and she was arrested at its conclusion. She was later transported to Mercer County following an extradition hearing.
Moreo, who has yet to officially be charged in the case, is being held in the Allen County Jail on a warrant from the Allen County Sheriff's Office on unrelated charges. He was arrested in Dillsboro, Ind., where he was working at a carnival. Grey said he expected to file formal charges against Moreo in the near future.
Davis is currently being held in the Clermont County Jail on unrelated drug charges. He also has a holder placed on him out of Mercer County.
Grey said Abrams drove from the Cincinnati area, with Davis in the vehicle — a 1997 Mercury Villager van — and allegedly picked up Moreo in the area. The three then drove to the Fair home.
"It wasn't a random act," Grey said of the crime. "The Fairs were actually targeted by these people. When they got here from Cincinnati and picked up Moreo, they knew where they were going. They picked up Moreo in the Lima area and drove straight to the Dutton Road address."
Grey declined to give a specific reason as to why the Fairs were targeted. However, he revealed the suspects had a reason to believe the home contained money.
"Josh Moreo, being from the Spencerville area, was familiar with the Fairs," Grey said. "He knew of the Fairs, I'm not sure the Fairs actually knew him ... He suspected there would be a little money in there."
Grey said the purpose of the home invasion was to obtain money to purchase drugs, which the suspects reportedly did following the crime.
"They did the home invasion, got the money and on their way back from the home invasion, they purchased drugs," Grey said. "The reason for it was to purchase drugs."
Grey said the three are not strangers. Abrams and Moreo were pen pals while in their respective prisons. Davis, Grey said, is a friend of Abrams.
Grey touted the tips that poured into the agency for helping investigators crack the case. Through its various tips lines, investigators received 260 tips.
"I'd say the biggest turning point was the help from the public," Grey said. "Sometimes I don't think the public recognizes the importance they play in helping local law enforcement solve crimes. The tips that came in, it's amazing how many of those tips were right."
While the case had some similarities to the Grube double homicide, Grey said the Fair home invasion is not related. Grey said investigators are continuing to work on the Grube case and are making "progress."


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after an update to gnome 3.8 I cannot set a background image anymore. I can change the color, but not set a jpg, though it is shown in the preview.
I have reinstalled gnome-background and deleted my "."-Folders in home - doesn't solve the problem...
Any advice?
Last edited by der_harm (2013-04-24 17:29:29)
Works fine for me. Have you tried to put your dconf parameters back to default ?
Last edited by Cthulhu82 (2013-04-22 10:55:56)
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Works fine for me. Have you tried to put your dconf parameters back to default ?
What is default? I did not change any...
after an update to gnome 3.8 I cannot set a background image anymore. I can change the color, but not set a jpg, though it is shown in the preview.
I have reinstalled gnome-background and deleted my "."-Folders in home - doesn't solve the problem...
Any advice?
Same here, I don't know where to fix it (may be a configuration file, but which one) ?
I have create a brand new user account and restarted my computer - does not work :-(
I have found my former desktop background here:
ls -l /usr/share/pixmaps/backgrounds/gnome
insgesamt 468
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 477420 18. Feb 15:03 background-default.jpg
The other images that are selectable I have found here, while the one obove is not one of them:
ls -l /usr/share/backgrounds/gnome
insgesamt 9572
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1157513 15. Apr 20:49 Blinds.jpg
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 456110 15. Apr 20:49 BlueMarbleWest.jpg
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 703018 15. Apr 20:49 Chmiri.jpg
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 444406 15. Apr 20:49 Fabric.jpg
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 762649 15. Apr 20:49 FootFall.png
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 513355 15. Apr 20:49 Mirror.jpg
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 724783 15. Apr 20:49 Road.jpg
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 591528 15. Apr 20:49 Sandstone.jpg
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 278252 15. Apr 20:49 Spaceflare.jpg
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 330495 15. Apr 20:49 Stripes34.jpg
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 246770 15. Apr 20:49 Stripes.jpg
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 489702 15. Apr 20:49 Sunset.png
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 466292 15. Apr 20:49 Terraform-green.jpg
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 627111 15. Apr 20:49 Tulip.jpg
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 458818 15. Apr 20:49 Waves.jpg
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 525520 15. Apr 20:49 Wood.jpg
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 990018 15. Apr 20:49 ZvonecKonec.jpg
I did not install my former background seperately, it is a default desktop background. Why ist this one at another palce?
Anyway, the last files are all selectable, but none of them works. Ich can just choose betweek different single colors.
Last edited by der_harm (2013-04-22 12:08:37)
Had similar problem when used non-default theme (apparently theme is not updated for 3.8 yet).
OK, I got it...
I did not check each of the selectable files. I checked different ones randomly and had bad luck.
Some of them DO work, bot most of them do NOT work!
A bug? Please check to confirm!!!
Confirming : the default "changing" background isn't working, but some others are working well.
Cthulhu82 wrote:
Works fine for me. Have you tried to put your dconf parameters back to default ?
What is default? I did not change any...
In dconf-editor, in "org.gnome.desktop.background", you can reset the parameters to default.
But from what you guys wrote, looks indeed like a bug…
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I have an script to change my background every 10 minutes, since upgrade it's not working anymore. It's a small sciprt I found in internet.
while true; do
find /home/koven/wp /usr/share/wallpapers -type f \( -name '*.jpg' -o -name '*.png' \) -print0 |
shuf -n1 -z | xargs -0 feh --bg-scale
sleep 10m
So there is some kind fo restriction...I guess.
Thank you guys!! :-)
OK, sorry for my first post, I misunderstood your question. Indeed, in the control center I have access to official gnome wallpapers, to colors but not to my own images… I didn't realize it since I use Wally to change automatically my wallpaper.
So, I confirm that Wally works fine, and that it is still possible to control the background image with dconf-editor.
I have an script to change my background every 10 minutes, since upgrade it's not working anymore. It's a small sciprt I found in internet..
This script acts directly on gsettings, so still works fine with gnome 3.8 :
#!/usr/bin/perl -w
use strict;
use warnings;
### Start CONFIG
my $searchPath = '/home/user/Pictures/'; # <- DON'T FORGET TO CHANGE THAT !!!
my $switchTime = 1200; # Time is in seconds
# bgotd-- background of the day
# A super simple script which randomly picks a jpg/JPG/jpeg/JPEG photo to place as your
# Gnome desktop.
# Written by Michael Moore, Nov. 2007
# This work is hereby placed in the public domain
my @photos = `find $searchPath -type f | grep [jJ][pP][eE]*[gG]`;
my $photo;
$photo = $photos[rand($#photos)];
`gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.background picture-uri "file:///$photo"`;
Don't forget to change your picture path.
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I'm more or less just posting a comment to follow this thread.
I am not able to have any wallpaper / background .. and if i enable nautilus active desktop (ie: icons, files, folders on desktop), i get 'rendering trails' when i move windows, so for now i have disabled nautilus from managing the desktop and am stuck with a black background. (unfortunately).
none of the methods mentioned here, that i tried made any difference ~ but i am also using a non-standard / unsupported gnome-ish desktop.
hopefully, it just comes down to fixing my theme, which by looking at gtk-3.8 themes, i have yet to figure out. (maybe it's just a bug, as suggested?)
I ended up replacing nautilus with nemo (nemo-git AUR) for handling the desktop - i now have background wallpapers working again.
I think when i get some time i will look into using nautilus again for desktop management, but for now - it is easier for me to just switch to something that works OOTB,
Thank you guys!! :-)
As the OP, could you mark this [SOLVED] since you seem to have found a solution?
Not really solved, so much as a workaround. For me, it turned out to be using a non-default shell theme. Try resetting it to Adwita (default) using gnome-tweak-tool.
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Not really solved, so much as a workaround. For me, it turned out to be using a non-default shell theme. Try resetting it to Adwita (default) using gnome-tweak-tool.
that is one way. (to fix it). and of course, i suppose you are right, we are working around it - not fixing it (yet).
there seem to be a few ways to work around it, and it seems to affect more than one just one 'shell'. (ie: gnome-shell/compiz)
The issue most definitely relates to some changes in nautilus, afaict from looking at commit logs; nautilus, when handling the desktop now paints an RGBA window (transparent) and only draws it's icons/folders/etc. Gnome-Shell then handles painting the desktop wallpaper. (behind)
- So in my case, i think i know why i am getting a black window -> I'm not running Gnome-shell (nor a fork), so there is no wallpaper being drawn. So the solution for me, is to use Gnome-flashback and/or using older version of nautilus or nemo (which do handle painting desktop wallpaper).
but there also could be some change required to my gtk+ theme, as well.... i haven't gotten that far yet, since fixing the ugly menu bug in themes being ported from gtk-3.6->3.8, (for me) was more important, (since i also worked around no background image issue, if even temporarily until i can fix it properly).
Last edited by triplesquarednine (2013-04-25 00:10:32)
Thanks that script worked for me, i made some little changes to get png and having more path to look for wallpapers.
Last edited by Koven (2013-04-25 20:07:29)
I hit upon this issue myself over the weekend when I did a system update.
I have 2 HP laptops. 1 older HP6715b (personal), and a newer EliteBook 8560w both of which I updated at the same time unfortunately.
In my case I get a dark grey background. At one stage during my attempts to recover from the update, my background was the Getty virtual console that was last visible.
Gnome-shell seems to work fine, at least as far as the background is concerned.
But like many other I don't like or use Gnome-shell. I prefer the Gnome 2.x look and behaviour. I used to use Gnome 3 in fallback mode. But fallback mode has been replace with "Classic Mode" which is a half baked attempt to adapted Gnome-shell to the Gnome 2.x style, and doesn't implement half the features.
I have resorted to creating a custom session similar to the gnome-flashback-session, which uses metacity and gnome-panel.
I can select a background image in the settings control panel and see it in the preview window. I've tried using both nautilus and nemo (nemo from the official repositories and nemo-git from AUR). I reset my themes to the defaults. Nothing seems to work.
The Gnome 3.8 update broke my entire desktop configuration. When I first logged in after the reboot all I got was a dark screen screen and with a light grey strip across the top (presumably my gnome-panel) and now window manager. I had to allow away my entire .config and reconfigure my desktop from scratch. I've since noticed that some of the themes I downloaded for Gnome 3.6 cause Gnome panel to lockup and display nothing but the strip across the top of the screen.
I have also noticed a few other things missing, such as the volume control and battery status notification applets.
In addition my laptop hardware function controls for brightness, volume, mute, display selection and standby no longer work. Although this may be a separate systemd issue as a result of the update.
So, for me, this issue is not resolved.
triplesquarenine seems to have a good handle on the issue. Is there any advise you can offer.
So, for me, this issue is not resolved.
For me it was just a problem of image size: 10 Mb was too big. I resize it (321 kb) and background is working again!
Settings>Displays>Primary> Flip the display
fixed the problem
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With their need of a striker continuing as the new Premier League season looms near, Spurs have suffered a set back in their efforts to land Valencia star Roberto Soldado.
Soldado, 28, is one of the cash strapped Spanish sides most valuable assets, and the cash generated from any sale of the Spanish International would go a long way to helping ease the burden at the Mestalla Stadium.
But at this moment in time, no deal has been struck despite Spurs boss Andres Villas-Boas stating his interest in the forward.
Speaking in Hong Kong, Villas-Boas said: "At the moment, he's just one of the players we are interested in.
"It's not a lie to anybody that we've been looking for a striker to strengthen our squad and to have more strength in depth."
Having seen so many of their goals come from Real Madrid target Gareth Bale last season, the one position that many Spurs fans want to see reinforced is their forward line as they chase a Champions League place.
Much of their attacking emphasis came from the speedy Welshman last season and while they will be hoping he stays in London and continues his fine form from last term, a recognised goalscorer ahead of him would go a long way in improving their chances of playing in Europe's top competition once again.
Soldado, who ended the season as the top scorer at the Mestalla, will be allowed to leave should Spurs up their interest and offer the fee in his contract.
The fee involved would see Spurs smash their transfer record, and it remains to be seen if Daniel Levy will give the green light in order to bring Soldado in.
But Spurs fans can remain hopeful as Valencia's president Amadeo Salva said: "We agreed to meet Tottenham again to discuss the ways of paying and we did that because we understood that his buy-out clause would be met."
And it is also understood that Franco Baldini, technical director at White Hart Lane, is in Spain to continue talks about a possible move.
Spurs are in need of a world-class forward to operate ahead of Gareth Bale and Soldado would certainly fit that bill should a deal be struck for his services.
And with Valencia deep in financial crisis ahead of the new season, they will be looking to continue negotiations, provided the minimum fee is met.
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Unfortunately, I have to agree.
If they would have even hinted at bringing back the normal desktop, it would have been big news. Well, at least they didn't mandate ribbon menus on all applications written for Windows. But then, until they ditch Metro, I'm afraid that enterprise adoption will remain a little slow...
Windows 2000 desktop please..
Some of us just want to use a pc, not get entertained by dancing buttons and other crap.
Some of us just want to use a pc, not get entertained by dancing buttons and other crap.
Which could also refer to Unity. I've been on Ubuntu 12.04 for some months now and, while I'm okay with Unity, I fail to see any real benefit versus a lighter and slimmer UI. It's even worse on my small laptop screen.
they can literally fuck off
By that, do you mean that at the moment, they are capable of fucking off, but they'll lose this capability when they fix the interface?
Hey, and now that we're on the subject anyway; what exactly is fucking off? I have trouble imagining how to have sexual intercourse with such an abstract concept named "off".
*sigh*, the use of the word "literally", is literally not always correct! It drives me figuratively crazy!
Maybe because liter is a metric unit?
I can get around the start menu, I can get around the interface changes, I can even deal with the "control panel" not remembering my settings (I always have to select small icons), but until they fix Windows 8 to enable the reason for Windows existance, easy interface for multi-tasking... then they can literally fuck off.
Dude, why would you possibly expect 'Microsoft Windows' to handle window management? And why would you want window management, and multiple monitors and stuff, when you could be squinting around your thumbs on a 10 inch tablet? Get with the Future!
The fact that having multiple monitors is cheaper and easier than it has ever been isn't a good thing, it's a temptation designed to corrupt and destroy the weak minded. Resist, brother, and embrace the all-full-screen-all-the-time-for-fuck-knows-what-reason future!
Dude, why would you possibly expect 'Microsoft Windows' to handle window management?
Microsoft Windows Tiles -- you don't know whether to pee or leave.
Hey I understand you're being facetious but spare a thought for the people who actually want a simple calculator 24" inches wide. AND TOUCH!
classic shell brings it back.
or if you're a paying customer, start8 by stardock.
I use Windows 8. I rarely ever see metro.
I find it useless and frustrating. Not because I think it's poorly designed. But because it's forced on the wrong device. My PC is not a tablet.
Ya know what pisses ME off about Metro/Win 8 way of doing things? Not only does it give you NO fucking choice in the matter but things that took one click now take 3 or more, and things that take a couple takes a shitload of submenu bullshit! Take safe mode, push F8 and there ya go, right? WRONG, now its shift PLUS F8 PLUS 3 fucking pages of extra options to get through when all you want is safe mode!
I get the "fun" of finding drivers for a Toshiba that was "made for Win 8" therefor doesn't fricking have drivers for anything else. i tried warning the guy but he was all "How bad can it really be?"...snicker...he called me 3 weeks later saying "Take this God damned thing OFF my PC! I hate this stupid thing!" and frankly he IS the target audience, has little exp with computers and needs lots of hand holding but win Metro is laid out so damned stupid and has so much extra shit running (like the live tiles mess, which seriously sucks ass on wifi with limited bandwidth) its slowing his little Bobcat laptop to a fricking crawl. When he asked "Does Win 7 REALLY make that big of a difference?" all I had to do was hand him my Bobcat netbook and say "our chips are virtually identical, try it and see" and it didn't take him 10 minutes before he said "That's it, I've had it, make that damned Win 8 go away".
This is NOT hyperbole, this is NOT from someone who has trouble picking up new OSes, hell I can run a half a dozen including the more esoteric Linux DEs along with Android and iOS but this...its just fucking stupid, it makes assumptions and acts like its on a damned cellphone, expects touch (which will NOT be coming to a good 95%+ of desktops and laptops because holding your arm out like that isn't pleasant and the cost is too high for large touchscreens) and frankly tries its damned best to get in your way and treat you like a moron. this is the first MSFT OS since WinME I will NOT have in my shop and if they refuse to listen to their customers and give us the option of killing this shit dead I predict MSFT will be the next RIM, a company that USED to be a big deal but only has legacy customers that are looking for the exit.
And if on the off chance any MSFT bigwigs read this? Hi, I'm your customer, I sell and support your product and you are ROYALLY FUCKING UP if you think you can use the damned desktop to EEE your way into the cellphone market, you can't, it won't work, it would be like putting a bubble on a moped and calling it a car hoping to break into the 2 wheeler market off the backs of your car buyers. If you want to compete with Apple in mobile? Then SPIN OFF MOBILE and let them sink or swim on their own, you have hundreds of millions of customers that are either hanging onto what will soon be a two release behind OS of yours or looking at your competitors and that is NOT the way to do business. The desktop is NOT touch, will not BE touch, and nobody wants their PC to be a giant smartphone [youtube.com]. Hell watch the video, even usability experts, you know, the people actually PAID the big bux to design UIs? Yeah even they say your design is stupid. The PC is designed for content CREATION and you are trying to push a content CONSUMPTION only design and ya know what? Not gonna work, hell Win 8 has worse numbers than fricking Vista.
So please MSFT, just stop it, its not gonna work, you can't "pull an IE" and jam your OS into a space where nobody wants it, not like this. All you are doing now is making yourselves look like a bunch of idiots run by marketing drones...which sadly really isn't far off if you look at the output. You are NOT Apple, Redmond is NOT Cupertino, just stop it already because you are just embarrassing yourself.
I keep getting suckered into this articles just to see if the failing PC market has finally forced them to pull their heads out of their *sses and reinstate the desktop by default and the start button...
Maybe I'd better luck wishing for some higher res displays as standard on notebooks... How is it that cell phones need 1080p displays, but for doing real work, 1366x768 is supposed to be great ?!
Maybe I'd better luck wishing for some higher res displays as standard on notebooks... How is it that cell phones need 1080p displays, but for doing real work, 1366x768 is supposed to be great ?!
...maybe you should look at a chromebook like the pixel. [2560 x 1700 at 239 PPI] which has a higher than 1080P resolution
http://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/devices/chromebook-pixel/ [google.com]
The Chromebook Pixel is a laptop that brings together the best in hardware, software, and design to inspire future innovation.
While using an Intel 4000 integrated graphics chipset... pass.
The Intel 4000 GPU is fine for everything except high end gaming. Most importantly power consumption is pretty good, so battery life is reasonable.
Those high res screens suck up a lot of power. The 13" retina MacBook has a 96Wh battery and weighs a hearty 2Kg. NEC do the 13" LaVie Z that has a 1600x900 screen and 35Wh battery. It gets similar battery life but only weighs 875g. 1600x900 gives you more usable desktop space than a 2x zoom retina display too.
Yes, the Chromebook hardware looks great, if it ran a proper OS I'd be interested.
...but loves the hardware.
https://plus.google.com/+LinusTorvalds/posts/dk1aiW4JjHd [google.com] L "I'm still running ChromeOS on this thing, which is good enough for testing out some of my normal work habits (ie reading and writing email), but I expect to install a real distro on this soon enough. For a laptop to be useful to me, I need to not just read and write email, I need to be able to do compiles, have my own git repositories etc..
No kidding. But their heads are too far up their asses at this point to understand that this direction they're going is not popular.
Honestly, if we're not going to ever get Aero back (which is fine), they could at last have the decency to give us the classic look back instead of this monotone nonsense that just blends into everything.
I loathe the day none of this ever gets better and I end up one of those holdouts like people who were still clutching to XP when Windows 7 was released.
They're going to keep heading that direction, and the old desktop is going to go away. The problem with the old desktop is that they don't get 30% of the cost of every piece of software installed on it. They they people will knuckle under and pay it, because their only choices other than Windows is Apple, who will most likely have the same app store lock-in in OSX by then as well, and Linux. They figure the extra money is worth the loss of customers. Personally, I'm hoping there is a rush to Linux and they die a horrible death, but I'm probably overly optimistic.
their only choices other than Windows is Apple
Which decade are you living in? The #1 OS in the world right now is Android... so linux. This is a trend that will continue. Unless Microsoft makes windows absolutely free, they are dead to the world. I think Windows 9 or whatever they will call it will be their last hurrah. My company, who still uses Winxp and never trys anything new is test bedding several linux distros with some users for the first time ever. I was shocked, but the trial is going fantastically... I never thought it would happen in my lifetime but Linux may just beat Microsoft yet.
I loathe the day none of this ever gets better and I end up one of those holdouts like people who were still clutching to XP when Windows 7 was released.
Why don't you just run Wine on Linux? That way you can stay up to date and run those pesky few Windows apps you need. If you can get away with relying on an outdated version of Windows for the work you do then you can probably do it on Linux.
Why don't you just run Wine on Linux?
Because Wine is broken? I mean, other than that, well sure.
Me, I run XP in a VM. Works fine. I don't let it on the Internet because, well, it's Windows, and Microsoft has trained me not to trust them... but other than that, does everything I want it to. Office, my legit copy of developer studio, image processing apps, testing the Windows version of the software I develop... Do the same thing with linux, for that matter, except it's well designed enough not to hose itself just because there is a network connection.
Virtual machines: For those of us who are tired of solutions that don't work very well.
My suggested Windows 8 slogan: "Nowhere to go but up!"
The only connection people already know between Windows and Blue is the Blue Screen of Death. In fact, it took me a minute to realize this wasn't about 9364 screenshots of BSODs.
I concur. Was imperative to read the summary, until then I was looking forward to seeing the advancements in the BSOD.
My first thought too. Shades of Operation Iraqi Liberation.
As a Win7 user, did anyone else feel completely lost reading the summary?
Not lost per se, but only because I had to endure a bit of a tour (my last employer was a Microsoft Premier/Platinum/Perpetual/etc partner - they drink the koolaid by the tankerload.)
All I can say is, thanks to a recent layoff and job search, I was able to quickly winnow out the intelligent IT departments from the flaming morons. The ones with intelligence are holding off on W8 until either Microsoft fixes that Metro garbage into usability, or a decent 3rd-party enterprise-ready UI bolt-on comes into play. Their explanations as to why ranged from the standard 'wait-forever-before bothering', to some very reasoned responses that made perfect sense (mostly revolving around training costs, incompatibilities, and etc) The one prospective employer I avoided with haste is busy trialing W8 among their IT folk for a push out to their users starting at the end of this quarter, but with little regard to testing with users outside their IT department.
In-depth grilling into how they think and react as a department is a must if you can do it. It reveals a lot about what you're walking into, but the trick is to blow past the buzzwords and get them to really explain it.
(My views may be a bit biased though - I'm finally going back into Linux administration with a kick-ass new employer...)
I don't think MS particularly cares. Getting the corporate world to move away from XP is much more important to them as it is going out of support, and even MS admits finishing the move to Win7 is much more important.
I can agree to that, but only to an extent - doing so would show that Microsoft is playing a short game, not a long one.
Win7 will likely hang around enterprises for at least the next 5-7 years (or more) if this is the case, but then what? An "enterprise" version that has the familiar desktop?
I'm not seeing anyone, not even Microsoft, demanding that the workplace convert over to touch-screen UIs, even in a distant future. The reason why is as close as the nearest heavy user of Excel...
There's very little that's charming about Windows 8.
Christ almighty! Would someone please tell Microsoft that Windows 8 is a content consumption platform whereas the corporate world needs a multi-tasking UI. This is fucking bullshit!
That screenshot doesn't show just how bad windows management in Metro is. There's actually no way to display two apps side by side. You know how you sometimes like to read a PDF on one half of the screen and an editor in the other? You can't do that. Metro application have two modes. Fullscreen or snapped into a 320px narrow margin.
It's quite telling that the Windows Blue preview advertises "you can run two apps side-by-side for better multitasking". Metro is so bad at Window management even the newest version will be nowhere near the abilities of Windows 1.0. You can't arbitrarily size programs. That might be acceptable for a phone but it's just ridiculous on a PC.
Guess what? Consumers generally consumes content on their computers... you know, the vast majority of human beings.
And most of those consumers have already largely switched to smartphones and tablets. In a vain attempt to win them back, Microsoft has sacrificed their competitive advantage with business users – you know, the ones who actually pay the vast majority of their licensing fees...
Guess what? Consumers generally consumes content on their computers... you know, the vast majority of human beings.
And most of those consumers have already largely switched to smartphones and tablets. In a vain attempt to win them back, Microsoft has sacrificed their competitive advantage with business users – you know, the ones who actually pay the vast majority of their licensing fees...
Its kind of sad really that that Desktop monopoly is so hard to break, Microsoft keeps throwing its customers...and its partners under the bus, just to do it again. Its ironic that both of these groups are moving over to a Google Os. Business Users still feel pretty trapped, but will keep their older hardware running as long as Microsoft let them.
Its ironic that both of these groups are moving over to a Google Os.
LOL. It's not ironic. It's imaginary. There's no significant move towards Google Chrome or Google anything else for that matter in the OS space. There are three players, and only three: Microsoft, Apple, and linux. Apple's got the ball right now, as their machines can run all three OS's, all at once, legally and legitimately. If you're worried about movement, worry about Apple. Google? No chance.
The "vast majority of human beings" don't sign massive EA contracts that pay Microsoft's bills.
We'll see how it shakes out when enterprises begin tinkering with OSX and/or Linux on larger scales towards the end of their upgrade cycles.
Be sure to tell that to those that earn a paycheck off a computer as a business platform. And unless my company pays me for jacking off to Windows 8, I will not be going near that OS. I will force myself to learn Linux or go the OSX platform. Microsoft is on borrowed time.
you know, as a person who has to use windows 7 sometimes at home and work, I can only say your sentence reads as complete gibberish. so does the article: charms, Name Group and Live Tiles....gad.
I use Windows 8 on my school laptop (grad student in materials engineering) and I am not thrilled with the news of this update. Everything they mention is related to metro, the touchscreen interface for Windows 8, with nothing on the desktop/laptop side. The main complaint with Windows 8 was that the metro stuff should have been optional, as it is not needed or wanted on a normal PC. With the Blue update we see that after hearing the criticism and commentary from the release of Windows 8, MS' only response is a few tweaks here and there.
I'm worried by MS' attitude more than anything else, like the idea that the desktop is just for legacy software, and that metro is the future. Metro or whatever you want to call is not the future of the PC. It not even the future of touch. It's an also-ran, second rate touch OS, and it continues to sell poorly next to iOS and Android. I've used all 3 OS' on touch devices, and even there metro is not great. Alot of buttons and controls are hidden by default, so you are always trying to toggle between different views. Maybe someone spiked the water in Redmond, because I never imagined that after winning the desktop OS wars they would just lose interest and abandon their users.
[...] the corporate world needs a multi-tasking UI.
Actually, my somewhat old experience in the corporate world pretty much says the opposite.
Consider most people in the corporate world with PCs. The ones I saw, way back when, would tend to hit the maximize button so that the application window took up the whole screen. They weren't taking advantage of multiple overlapping windows and tended to get confused by them. In fact, those people who came over from Windows to Mac were always confused that the maximize button wouldn't expand everything to fit the w
why does Calculate, Sound Recorder need to be full screen??
It's not a small screen tablet or phone
one of the featured screenshots being a calculator that will suck up every inch of my large desktop monitor, take that you 20 year old serial terminal in the other room and your fucking text based "windows"
Why is a Windows release named after its most famous failure screen? Is the marketing department that ignorant?
Why is a Windows release named after its most famous failure screen? Is the marketing department that ignorant?
Because they're willing to be bold and daring.
It's an internal code name. Like Chicago, Longhorn and Cairo
the proper name is going to be windows 9.
Several sites have screenshots from the build; Hot Hardware says "Assuming this is all completely legitimate, the most obvious change pertains to the Metro UI, including greater flexibility in sizing Live Tiles and customizing the Start screen, particularly as the Personalize setting (among others, including Devices and Share) is now under the Settings charm. The Name Group feature for the Start menu looks a little more polished, too."
They don't get it, do they? Power users and most business users don't want to tinker with the Metro UI. We want to be able to get rid of it and boot straight into the Desktop with a traditional Start Menu.
I can sort of see what Microsoft is trying to do with Windows 8. The idea is not theirs, nor is it a new idea. It actually goes back a long, long time. When GUIs were born designers wanted to implement direct-manipulation as much as possible. The user had to be able to grab anything, drag and drop and click and whatnot it. This included the windows used by programs, if the user wanted to have that giant word processor in a 50x50 pixel window overlapped by a dozen other windows then they should be able to.
Now that GUIs are old hat, all that direct manipulation is getting a bit long in the tooth. Shuffling windows around, organizing them 'just' so is just as inefficient as doing the same to text in a word processor. Why not leave all that repetitive work to the computer? That is what machines are for, after all? In short, Microsoft has discovered the advantages of tiling window managers [wikipedia.org].
The sad part is that they seem to have forgotten to study the subject before designing Windows 8. All they had to do was install one of the many available existing tiling window managers on a unix of choice and give it a whir. Xmonad [wikipedia.org] or dwm [wikipedia.org] or any of the others do an infinitely better job of it than Windows 8 does. They work with the user, not against him/her.
Personalization is currently under the "settings" charm in Windows 8. If you're on the desktop, Personalization (as in desktop theme) is right there in the charm menu. If you're in Metro, then it's the first item under "Change PC settings" (as in, "Personalize" is the first damned thing you see when you launch it). The only thing they did, if anything, was change the label in the charm to be dumbed down for the casual user who couldn't find Personalize without having it spelled out for them. Probably a resu
How much longer are they going to keep making products for consumption instead of creation?
Windows 8 is the "other" in "every other version of Windows sucks," which means they better get their head out of their ass for Windows 9 (or whatever name they pick out of the hat next).
Otherwise, this is going to push their bread-and-butter business customers away from them and towards Linux. Who'd have thought that the year of the Linux desktop might actually end up being Microsoft's doing?
I have a soft spot for the new Start Screen. I find it much more appealing than the old Start Menu which seemed more like a Start Slab by the time it was deprecated. The initial concept had been compromised by the amount of crap that it was asked to handle. Using a tile-based system is a great way to package different sources of data and information into neat little groupings. We can agree to disagree on that one.
My problem is that the rest of the Metro UI doesn't really follow the lead of the Start Screen at all. Aesthetically, it jettisons the entire look and feel for what seems like a bunch of images and text adrift in a lot of whitespace.
Icons have little or no depth at all. They don't really adhere to their origins in minimalist mass transit iconography as the Start Screen does, nor do they acknowledge the benefits of effective drop shadows - or really any developments since the year 2000. I'm pretty sure the version of KDE that shipped with my copy of LinuxPPC 1999 was the aesthetic equal in this one regard.
Text is widely spread out with no clear delineation between where one active area begins and another ends. Even info grouped together appears to take up a significant amount of screen real estate. Not due to font sizing issues, but rather, the line spacing and just random weirdness in the layout. It reminds me less of an OS and more of a poorly-designed Web 2.0 site.
I'll use Metro when I can see my application, code trace, call stack, and variable watch list at the same time.
If Metro is so friggin' brilliant how come VS2012 isn't native? Oh and thanks for making the menu titles shout at me. That's nice.
I have been using Windows 8. Yes, as a power user I do miss the start menu and how it enabled discovery of programs and multitasking. But, the kernel is responsive and I like the simpler, less chrome look. Even Windows 7 feels less responsive and snappy to me now. And the ideas in Windows RT (the new runtime) make a lot of sense (highly asynchronous, access from managed and native environments). But, they wrapped it up in the weirdest way.
Why Microsoft just doesn't embrace a "desktop mode" and "metro mode" on a per user basis just baffles me. If you select desktop mode, you get the start menu, and to get to the metro screen, you have that option on that menu (or shift+win). Win key takes you back to desktop from any metro app. Metro mode, works like Windows 8 now. Shift+Win is desktop shortcut.
Ta-da, best of both worlds. And you buy some time to get the Windows RT runtime for desktop apps, or integrating metro into desktop mode.
Microsoft, this isn't hard at all. What's up?
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Duuuude, not THAT kind of plant. Even though high temperature lights would be splendid for them.
Duuuude, not THAT kind of temperature.
TFA discusses "color temperature," saying blue is productive and yellow not so much.
You seem to have been fooled by the fictional "heat lamps" mentioned in police bust reports. This is a blatant lie aimed at tricking people into ineffective grows. Cannabis grows fine at room temperature and overheating is a much bigger problem than cold for indoor grows. The less heat, but more light, the better.
The real lights used are high pressure sodium, with a low color temperature for best vegetative growth, and metal halide, with a higher color temperature for best flowering. If somebody is using only one type of light it will be the low color temperature high pressure sodium. Fluorescent lighting is also usable for small scale grows but is less efficient.
I am kinda torn what I should find a witty comment for now...
That someone here knows that?
That he feels compelled to point it out?
Or that it's being modded insightful?
Oh look, I'm outta cheetos...
Quit, and run an office in your grow house.
Multiple monitors make it easier to appear productive with less effort.
This, plus dual screens are good for doing OTHER stuff than working, when you're into programming enough, you won't focus on much else anyway. But hey, there is a facebook update* on my other screen!
* Disclamer: I don't have facebook.
Apart from that it's really obvious to the boss anyway when he walks in and instead of looking up and saying hello you go wide eyed and stab at your keyboard. Many bosses seem to pretend not to notice - until they need ammunition...
I think the issue with the assertion is that it only applies to certain types of work. It's amazingly handy for somebody working on photo manipulation or graphic design to have one monitor showing the whole image and perhaps the toolbars and the other showing just the region that is being worked on.
Likewise it can be really helpful for a receptionist to have an email program going on one monitor and a word processing program going in the other.
With the advent of large monitors, a better solution for the latter would probably be to have a decent utility to split up the main screen, but I've yet to see one that really did a very good job of splitting one monitor into multiple logical monitors. X seems to do the best job, but there's complications there and that doesn't apply to Windows anyways.
With the advent of large monitors, a better solution for the latter would probably be to have a decent utility to split up the main screen, but I've yet to see one that really did a very good job of splitting one monitor into multiple logical monitors.
I'm not sure what you mean here. Have you tried one of those new fangled desktop environments with their fancy window managers? They seem to do what you call for.
Some programs like to maximize, and scale their layouts (crappily) based on the maximum physical size of the screen. This makes resizing the window to something other than effectively-maximized both annoying and visually unappealing, in some cases. Having a way to enforce a "maximize" that only maximized height, or within certain bounds (say, a full-screen presentation), perhaps via virtual monitors, would be handy in some situations.
You mean say, that (+) button that's existed on Mac OS since the very beginning that doesn't maximise the window, but instead makes it big enough to show the content and no bigger?
I don't know if there's a Windows equivalent, but I recently discovered a phenomenal tool for the Mac called Divvy [mizage.com].
You can define screen regions and have applications conform to those regions with a hotkey.
There's a link to the Windows version of Divvy [mizage.com] on the Mac Divvy page.
I use WinSplit Revolution [winsplit-revolution.com], though. It's a free Window app that is similar to Divvy.
What I really wish I had, when I must use Windows, is a Windows version of xmonad [xmonad.org]. It has excellent support for arranging windows within large screens and on multiple monitors, once you get used to it.
Duh. Didn't think I would need bifocus so early in my life.
Have you tried Winsplit Revolution [winsplit-revolution.com]? Been using it for a while now, and it's awesome in conjunction with AllSnap [ivanheckman.com].
Of course, this is with two laptops and two monitors on my desk at most times (although one of the laptops is a convertible tablet, so it doesn't really count as an additional screen.
And another few examples of where I've found that multiple monitors come in handy:
-Separate Media monitor: Dedicated to Winamp, VLC and any other programs you may use for your music and/or video needs
-Separate PIM
Having two monitors I feel a lot less claustrophobic. It may not increase my productivity but I'm far less agitated when doing my job. I don't like hunting for tabs to switch between views. When debugging
Wearing comfortable clothes probably doesn't increase productivity either.
http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/news/features/vibe.aspx [microsoft.com]
The first study revealed that the users' productivity increased by 9 percent. Further studies showed even greater increases - at times up to 50 percent for tasks such as cutting and pasting. Mary Czerwinski, the VIBE research manager, is excited about her group's discoveries, asking, "If you're able to squeeze 10 percent more productivity out, do you know how much money that will save?"
The article is utter garbage.
The article (second link in summary) about ways to increase productivity doesn't mention multiple monitors, and appears to have relevant research backing up all of its suggestions.
The Advice column (first link) does appear to be something a lazy writer pulled our of his or her... uh... ear.
Overall, the summary is exactly the quality I expect to find on Slashdot.
And we can even go back to 2003, and this article on slashdot [slashdot.org]
Multiple Monitors Increase Productivity
Posted by michael on Thursday October 09 2003, @10:01AM
from the print-out-and-show-your-boss dept.
eggoeater writes
"An systematic study conducted by NEC-Mitsubishi, ATI Technologies and the University of Utah has concluded that the use of multiple monitors in the workplace increases productivity. The study is discussed on Tom's Hardware, EE Times, and there's a detailed press release on NEC-Mitsubis
Depends where the office is, if you're located in an office building you likely don't have just areas next to the windows, and I think that's what they're talking about there. Plus you don't get even light all day anyways. Around here the sun doesn't come up until fairly late in the morning and goes down early in the afternoon. So even if you do have a window during those periods its not terribly useful anyways.
The rest of us get to use Linux...
My office is down in the basement, in a room full of routers and firewalls and other random gear we're testing. We finally scrounged up some spare sound-baffle stuff so it's a bit quieter.
Occasionally we get surveys from the Corporate Real Estate Droids about how well they're supporting us. They do ask what floor we're on, and for our building the choices are "1-6". Ummm, no, we're on floor 0 here.
The article actually says high color temperature light sources, not high temperature light sources, the latter of which makes no sense at all, of course.
Oh, and yes. Who still uses the sun for light? This is the 21st century. The sun is so passé.
Apparently part of it is using a less intrusive operating system as well:
the study came to the conclusion that it was pixels, not monitors that increased productivity
And people bicker at me about my desire to regain as many pixels as I can. (I'm looking at you Office, Windows 7 Aero, Organize and Address Bars...)
#1 improvement to productivity) Closing Slashdot!
Yes because employees would never think to browse other web sites, read the newspaper, daydream or just zone out. If you've got an unproductive employee you need to work out why they're not motivated and find a way to motivate them. Nothing else will work.
Not everything can or has to be proven with research. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, claiming a second monitor helps is hardly extraordinary.
Not everything can or has to be proven with research.
*citation needed*
Citation needed that a citation is needed
Not everything can or has to be proven with research.
Yes, metaphysics is usually the realm where this applies.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence was used to deny Aristarchus's 3rd century BC heliocentric theory. "Where's the parallax motion of the stars, if the earth is rotating? Any why isn't the wind stronger if the planet is spinning?" But there is parallax motion, their instruments just weren't sensitive enough; and the wind objection seems to be the real extraordinary claim. In conclusion, instead of following homilies like "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence", the Greeks shou
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
No they don't. All they require is consistent and valid evidence, just like any other claim. The moment you start dividing things into ordinary and extraordinary you introduce personal subjectivity, and that is a mistake.
Quite the opposite. Look up Bayesian inference.
From the wikipedia article [wikipedia.org]:
results will naturally be biased subject to a-priori notions (either explicit or implicit) that are assumed before any evidence is ever collected, yielding results that are true or false relative to given assumptions.
Bayesian inference usually relies on degrees of belief, or subjective probabilities, in the induction process, and it does not necessarily claim to provide an objective method of induction.
So GP's point is supported; subjectivity is involved in any claims of what i
I never got this two monitor thing.
When I started working here, they gave me a machine with two monitors, and after some months I asked to stay with just one.
Alt-tab is faster than turning my neck and re-focusing my eyes.
It might be a matter of personal preference. I like having two monitors, however, my setup at home instead involves one big honker monitor, which works just about as well. The main thing is to have enough screen real-estate to support what I'm doing.
Alt-tab is faster than turning my neck and re-focusing my eyes.
How far apart were your monitors? Mine are right next to each other; there's minimal if any turning of ones head involved. You're refocusing your eyes regardless since your entire screen changes when you alt tab.
I find that you don't really notice the increase until you have 2 monitors and have to go back to just 1. When I remote into my work machine I'
Honestly, it depends a lot on what tasks you're doing. For many jobs it's little or no benefit, but for some jobs it does help a lot. When I'm working on art having a second monitor is a god send. Accountants often times like having a second monitor so that they can see all the columns and for those doing scheduling it's great.
I think at this point though it's getting to be more grey area as monitors are really wide and have higher resolution, splitting the monitor into smaller work spaces would at this poi
splitting the monitor into smaller work spaces would at this point probably be more useful for most people.
My computer does that, it calls them "windows". I hear there's even an operating system named after them!
When you're developing software two monitors allows you to have your application open, as it would be used by the end user, and also have desktop space for working on it.
I actually have gotten into the habit of using my desktop and laptop both at times... I didn't really see a need for a second screen before I had my laptop, but I think at times having two complete systems has been key. At least for me. I can have research or email open on my laptop (often media apps like music as well) and my desktop is used as my main workspace for whatever I happen to be working on.
It actually takes some work to set up as my desk was never meant to have two monitors let alone a monitor a
I actually bought that exact chair as mentioned in the article, with the additional $200 chrome upgrade, about 4 years ago, it was awesome for the first few years, and then I had a huge problem with lower back pain. I went to the doc, tried stretching, muscle relaxers, massages, sleeping differently, it turns out it was the chair, after switching to a $39 Ikea chair http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/70133761 [ikea.com] my back pain finally went away after a few weeks and has been awesome since. I tried switching back to the Aeron a year ago for a month, but my back started hurting again soon after. The point of my story is just because a chair is expensive or has many adjustments does not mean its the best for you, and you may very well find a very comfortable chair for a lot less.
My back hurt until I started hitting the gym and doing muscle strength exercises.
Ding ding ding.
If you sit in a chair for eight hours a day, you are KILLING YOUR MUSCLES! This is not natural for humans at all.
You need exercise. I would argue that all office workers need mandatory exercise at least twice a day for five minutes absolute minimum. I keep a 30 pound weight in a nearby electrical/IDF closet and go in there once or twice a day to move my muscles around.
Most neck and back pain that I've ever had was completely resolved by having an exercise routine. Your muscles are not tel
And you wonder why you and most other Americans are fat...
You're so awesome. Do you have a blog I can subscribe to?
Well, it really depends on the source of your back pain. If it is muscular, sure.
If it is caused by compressed discs like mine, not so much. Strengthening exercises have some value in preventing recurrence, but do very little for me when it comes to reducing a flare-up. Only two things have really helped when it starts. Being very conscious of posture and learning that I have a problem with auto-immune inflammatory issues and getting the appropriate treatment for that.
But then, one of the other major so
There is something wrong with the chair if you need good muscle tone in order to sit in it.
This makes me want to market a chair designed to build muscle. Maybe it would randomly recline without warning, forcing you to suddenly do a sit-up. Improves reflexes too!
Yeah I knew that wasn't the problem as I work out and exercise quite a bit (altogether probably 10 hours/week). Out of all the things to fix my back I found that massages and stretching helped the most, but ultimately changing chairs fixed it, and I no longer need to stretch solely for my back. I also rotate sitting on a ball in every once and while. I would agree though, for most people the source of most of their pain is probably from not exercising enough.
I've been using a ball chair for a few years, cost me $80 or so, but it's been a really great improvement for my back. I do have to get up from time to time, but the strength of my abs has gotten so that I'm sitting upright with a natural curve to my spine.
a fair amount of the crap sold as being "Ergonomic" is complete and utter crap.
My last office had an obsession with people not using their laptop keyboards for extended periods of time... so they shelled out a lot of money for a set of "ergonomic" keyboards for the meeting rooms which could be plugged into the laptops... they were laptop keyboards, exact same size and layout and raised about the same distance off the desk.
Everyone would have been better off bringing their normal, full size keyboards from th
Same here. My butt/arse doesn't like it either.
Interesting chairs. No arm rests? I have to have arm rests due to my multiple disabilities especially with my arm and hands.
I actually bought that exact chair as mentioned in the article, with the additional $200 chrome upgrade, about 4 years ago, it was awesome for the first few years, and then I had a huge problem with lower back pain. I went to the doc, tried stretching, muscle relaxers, massages, sleeping differently, it turns out it was the chair, after switching to a $39 Ikea chair http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/70133761 [ikea.com] my back pain finally went away after a few weeks and has been awesome since. I tried switching back to the Aeron a year ago for a month, but my back started hurting again soon after. The point of my story is just because a chair is expensive or has many adjustments does not mean its the best for you, and you may very well find a very comfortable chair for a lot less.
If it will help, I'll give you the $39 for the Aeron so you won't be tempted any more.
Yeah. This is only a myth if you're willing to discount multiple studies that show that multiple monitors do increase productivity.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=do+multiple+monitors+increase+productivity [lmgtfy.com]
Way to go, editors.
University of Utah conducted a study funded by NEC in 2003 and a follow up in 2008.
According to their test subjects higher resolution, more pixels, was the sweet spot.
I think this is where the "Multiple monitors make drones work better!" mantra came from. Most monitors were in the 17" to 19" - to get the pixel sweet spot you needed more of them. This was great selling point for monitor makers.
In the 2008 follow-up, they found productivity benefits begin to taper if you get above 26"-30" and resolutions high
The single biggest line item on my (and probably many people's) productivity costs is interruptions of the form, "hey, I need to answer a question that takes more than a goldfish brain's worth of thought. I'd like you to do that thinking for me."
The second would be, "As my work product, I took a big dump into our codebase. Given that I don't care about anything but going home at 5, and none of our leadership understands what I did anyway, especially since I have two monitors and therefore look smart, why do
Multiple monitors may increase productivity, but I'd be willing to bet it would be easier to prove that they reduce paper and toner expense. How many people stop printing wedges of dead tree if they can have more than one document readable at a time?
possibly, the most productive workers are rewarded with an extra monitor.
Rather than the ultra-megawide screen setup that 2 monitors provide, I own a large 26" monitor (and am planning to get a 30" in the future when I can afford it). You get great height (good for coding), decent width, a unified desktop so that you don't have a big black bar down the middle (the space between the monitors!), and a bigger screen for watching movies from a more comfy chair.
That's great, but how are you supposed to hear your boss coming?
I happen to have 2 big ass monitors at work. Running Windows... At home I have a not so big ass single monitor that displays an Ubuntu desktop. I am vastly more productive at home. And that's thanks to the proper multiple desktop implementation that's simply not possible on Windows. It allows me to swap between virtual desktops much faster than I ever could move my eye/head to the second monitor in a dual monitor setup. And it gives me much more virtual desktops (I prefer 4) and much more overview thanks to
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Majestic two-story penthouse at The Ritz-Carlton, Bachelor Gulch with beautiful mountain views, stunning décor and access to 5-star amenities.
Everything at The West Wing Penthouse is on a grand scale. From the unparalleled views of the ski lift, slope, and mountains; to the vaulted ceilings and spacious-yet-private 4,400 square feet of living space occupying two stories at the Ritz-Carlton, Bachelor Gulch; to, even, the Steinway Piano presiding over the great room. This penthouse runs front-to-back on the west side of the building, which gives it its name, along with some of the best views in the valley, encompassing 270 degrees of Colorado mountain splendor.
To be fully immersed in these views, escape to one of two private outdoor terraces. One overlooks the ski runs and pool and provides chaise lounges plus a space for outdoor dining. The other, just off the kitchen, also has a dining table, plus a gas grill.
While staying at the West Wing, guests have full access to the luxury perks of The Ritz-Carlton, including award-winning restaurants, hot tubs, a spa and fitness center with four-seasons pool, and a whole lot more.
Each of the four bedroom suites, including two master suites, feature mountain views and en-suite bathrooms. In a standard configuration, this penthouse sleeps 8. Additional, flexible sleeping space—including trundle beds and pull-out sleepers—can accommodate 4 more for a total of 12.
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The Bachelor Master Suite: A spacious master suite. In this room, a sitting area provides a plush place to enjoy the setting, and a working area with desk makes productivity a breeze. Guests also love the spacious walk-in closet and en-suite bath with double vanity, walk-in shower with steam option, heated floor, two-person soaking tub and WC.
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The Larkspur Master Suite: This second-level guest master suite, with a king-sized bed, also boasts Ski Mountain views, a sitting area from which to enjoy them, and a deluxe en-suite bathroom with two-person Jacuzzi tub, walk-in shower and double vanity. A large walk-in closet has its own window overlooking the mountain valley. A great bedroom for families with young children, this room also fits a pull-out twin sofa bed.
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Fully Equipped Chef Style Kitchen: A huge, chef-designed kitchen caters to the epicure with stainless steel appliances. The kitchen is adjacent to the dining and family room and features space for a set of barstools for mingling, plus a spacious center island. The open floor plan means multiple chefs can work their magic at once, with plenty of elbowroom and plenty of granite countertop space. You'll also find a stacked washer and dryer in the closet in the kitchen area for your convenience.
Great Room: The West Wing Penthouse reinterprets a mountain cabin's charm with extraordinary elegance. Guests of the two-story Penthouse indulge in details like a wine cave, a custom, one-of-a-kind chandelier, a grand, moss rock fireplace, and a spacious terrace with the finest views at the Ritz-Carlton. Hardwood floors and two-story vaulted ceiling add to the elegance.
Dining Area: A generous dining table, adjacent to the kitchen, seats up to ten. Combined with the bar seating at the kitchen peninsula, large center island, and a breakfast nook, twenty two people total can dine in this space comfortably. Wood and stone accents and faux-painted walls add to this picturesque setting, and the custom-designed wine cave holds an array of wines for guests to uncork as an accompaniment.
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Sent to post as the 5-2 third-choice in a field of six for the Grade 3 stakes for 3-year-old fillies, Final Mesa stalked the swift early pace set by It's Me Mom under the Southern California riding star before taking the lead midway on the final turn and continuing on to her fourth victory in five lifetime starts.
After stalking fast fractions of :21 3/5, :44 and :56 1/5 for five furlongs, Final Mesa completed six furlongs in 1:09 3/5.
Final Mesa ($7.80), owned and trained by Wesley Ward, only gave Rosario momentary cause for concern during the 30th running of the Old Hat.
"She broke well, but I saw the two other horses (It's Me Mom and Quantum Miss) going a little quicker, so I just got her into an easy gallop off of them," said Rosario, who also scored aboard the Ward-trained Gazillion Kisses for a debut victory in the sixth race. "She quickened really well and ran hard through the stretch. I never really panicked in the stretch because my filly was running hard the whole way."
Ward had nothing but praise for Final Mesa, who won her first three races before finishing off the board on Del Mar's synthetic course in her most recent start last August.
"I think she's a special filly. She might not have liked the track at Del Mar the only time she got beat," Ward said. "I was between taking her there or Saratoga, but at the time, I thought her two races on synthetic tracks were even better than her one race on dirt. I like to give my horses six to seven weeks between races. So we'll look for something here, probably two turns."
Two-time Kentucky Derby winner Nick Zito got off to a flying start on opening day, saddling back-to-back winners in the fourth and fifth races. Zito won the fourth with S.S. Stone and the fifth with Doctor Peach ($19).
Trainer Juan Vazquez, who had one winner in 17 starts last season, also saddled a pair of winners: Midnight Thunder in the second ($8) and War Prospector ($85.40) in the seventh.


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Pearls are a gift of nature and Pearl Lake State Park is just that. Just a few miles off the road, it feels like an escape into the backcountry of Colorado.
Nestled in the mountains north of Steamboat Springs, this peaceful park sits in a quiet lakeside setting. Overlooking Farwell Mountain, visitors camp along the shoreline and on a ridge with amazing views.
There's excellent fly and lure fishing for native cutthroat trout. A trail takes visitors along the shoreline and leads them deep into the Routt National Forest. Picnicking is picture perfect. This is a true escape from the day-to-day routine.
Sites at Pearl are 20.00 per night
Reservations for 2016 may be made between 3 days and 6 months in advance with a first reserveable date of Friday, May 27nd, and a last reserveable date of Monday, September 12th.
Our yurts are available year round, @ 80.00 per night and offer a quiet getaway with outstanding views of the valley and surrounding mountains. You may reserve them online or by calling 1-800-244-5613.
Campsite reservations are highly recommended for our high-use summer season. They may be made between 3 days and 6 months in advance.
The Pearl Lake connector trail is a meandering trail that accesses thousands of acres of National Forest. The wakeless lake and flies and lures only regulations provide a quiet sporting experience.
In the winter, Pearl Lake offers serene overnight stays in our Yurts, as well as snowshoeing, skiing, snowmobiling, and ice fishing.


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WARRENSBURG, MO (May 21, 2014) – The Missouri Safety Center and the Institute for Public Safety at the University of Central Missouri will host "Critical Response to the Active Shooter," an eight-hour, POST -approved course, July 1, 2014 at Warrensburg High School, 1411 S. Ridgeview Dr.
The course will examine the dynamics surrounding violence in schools and what to expect during a law enforcement response to a report of an active shooter. It reviews the history of violence in schools, demographics of attackers, and the most publicized active school shooter tragedies.
It also provides information relating to emergency response procedures for school officials, including elements of a lockdown procedure, a tri-level lockdown system, what to do if a shooter pulls the fire alarm and how to respond to shots fired inside the school.
All participants will learn proper priorities for active shooter situations, the responsibility of the "contact team," tips for locating the shooter, and the legal standard for using force to stop the shooting. Law enforcement first responders will participate in basic tactical movement and room entry exercises.
Instructors for the course are Lt. Michael Turner, an 18-year veteran of the Missouri State Highway Patrol, and Cpl. Steve Gisselbeck, a member of the MSHP Troop F SWAT team for more than 13 years, including five years as a member of the entry team.
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- Gussets are awesome! Because breastfed stool is so runny, it can easily squish out of a diaper.
- Your Birdseye prefolds aren't really prepped until there's very little lint in your dryer.
- You don't have to fold diapers but you might want to so that you can put them on the baby correctly in the middle of a long sleepless night. You avoid lots of accidents and get more sleep that way.
- Prefolds must be all inside the diaper. Any part of it sticking out leads to leakage. And make sure that all-in-ones or pockets haven't folded over in the back. This can also cause leaks.
- Get a supply of inserts or doublers, which are really the same thing. I had heard you needed them at night for older babies, but never realized that because newborn stool is so watery it can seep through the prefold into the cover.
- All-in-ones don't seem to dry completely in the dryer so they may still be wet in the evening. It maybe worth it to use prefolds with a cover or prep a pocket diaper for night time instead. They dry better.
- You are not a horrible parent if you diaper pail stinks when you open it. The odor will only get worse.
- Babies can outgrow newborn sizes so quickly. Investing in an adjustable diaper or diaper cover is a good idea, but many will only fit babies 10 lbs or more. Thirsties duos are the exception.
- If it says it will fit 8 lbs plus, go ahead and buy the smaller size (5lb-10lbs) because they will fit better and leak less. Refer to number 8 if money is tight.
- Snappis are great! HB managed to wiggle his prefold out of place if it was laid inside the diaper cover.
- Read the fine print on detergent. I didn't realize that it had a built in fabric softener.
- Even though newborns grow at lethal speeds, you will still need a lot of diapers in the smaller sizes because you will go through a lot of them in the course of a day. They can always be used on another baby or can be resold if they are in good shape.
- A good rule of thumb for buying covers is that you buy a cover for every three or four prefolds you purchase. Since you will probably need three dozen prefolds to get started, that means you need 9-12 diaper covers. This is if you are washing every other day. If you have a small budget, you can buy less and wash more. If you have a bigger budget, you can buy more and wash less, but I would not go more than three days without washing diapers.
- Men can learn how to change a cloth diaper. My husband can use prefolds very quickly now. You just have to show them how and be very patient.
- Make sure you remember to put on a diaper cover. Keep it close to you while changing the baby, and you might have a better chance of remembering it when your really really tired.
- White diaper covers do get dingy. The inside of diapers or prefolds will stain. Don't stress yourself over having a bright white look on your baby's bottom. Get diaper covers will colors instead and hang the prefolds outside.
Wednesday, September 29, 2010
Things I Have Learned about Cloth Diapering a Newborn
12 comments:
- Anna said...
Great post! I learned some of these things with my first baby, but with baby #2 arriving this week, it was a great reminder for me! Thanks for your insights. :)
- September 29, 2010 at 1:13 AM
- Amber Liddle said...
We started cding our daughter at age one so going right from day one with baby number two is a little daunting! I am loving any article like this that gives newborn pointers :)
- September 29, 2010 at 8:11 AM
- Meg said...
Thanks for this post! I'll be CDing a newborn in about 15 weeks, so I'm glad for any tips I can get!
- September 29, 2010 at 10:16 AM
- Mrs EyeCanSee said...
I was amazed at how fast he grew out of the newborn diapers! He was fitting into his one size BGs at a month old, I couldn't believe it! And not because of his weight...it's because he was so tall and the rise on the newborn ones were so short!
- September 29, 2010 at 11:32 AM
- Caroline Marin said...
Something I learned and will use with the next one:
There are plenty of little bitty baby-sized all-in-ones and pockets that will fit right away, along with fitteds.
There is zero chance we'd cloth diaper from day one if we had to use prefolds, which is why we didn't with our first. Now I know better and have already started building our newborn stash of XS AIOs for #2...before I'm even TTC. That spreads my cost over plenty of time and guarentees we'll have them in house when the time comes.
- September 29, 2010 at 11:42 AM
- Ballerina Baller said...
love it. something i learned... it is almost worth it to get the smallest pack of sposies for that first myconium (spelling? sorry) it too us forever to get that stuff out of our fluff!
- September 29, 2010 at 1:12 PM
- Kristina said...
What an awesome post! Thanks for all the tips! Our first is due in December, and I can use all the advice I can get, as nobody I know cloth diapers.
- September 29, 2010 at 8:46 PM
- Diaper Dad said...
Number 14 is just silly and a little offensive.
- September 30, 2010 at 1:24 PM
- Selina said...
Please follow my new blog!!!
- September 30, 2010 at 1:57 PM
- Diaper Dad said...
I should clarify, so I don't just post a harsh comment and walk away.
Cloth diapering can be daunting to anybody at first, not just husbands. Mom's can be impatient as well, especially when just starting to CD their little one.
No matter who you are, or how prepared you think you are, 5 minutes figuring out how to put a diaper on your newborn seems like it is taking a lifetime and patience can run thin quickly.
Dads dig prefolds, maybe not as much as AIO's, but anything is better than stuffing small sized pocket diapers.
- September 30, 2010 at 2:34 PM
Diaper Dad- totally not meant to give offense. I'm sure that there are a lot of dad's out there who can cloth diaper just fine. My husband wasn't one of them. But then again some of my female friends struggle with it too. So it's applicable to both sexes.
- September 30, 2010 at 5:48 PM
- Kelly said...
I love the list. I CD'ed all three kiddos from birth and found that infant prefolds and covers were my best bang for the buck. I still use my infant prefolds for overnight stuffers in pockets now that my little ones aren't so little anymore :(
- September 30, 2010 at 7:46 PM


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Syria unrest: Are the Arab League observers doing their job?
After failing to put down anti-government protests with brute force, the regime of Bashar al-Assad has decided to bow to foreign pressure and allow a team of observers into the country. Their goal: find out whether Damascus is respecting its promise to end violence and pull its army out of residential areas. Cyril Vanier and his panel discuss whether the observers have what it takes to carry out this mission.
- Haitham MALEH, Syrian activist;
- Ole SOLVANG, Emergencies researcher, Human Rights Watch;
- Melissa BELL, France 24 International Affairs Editor;
- Julien PAIN, France 24 Observers;
- Walid PHARES, Professor, National Defense University.
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VMware Struggles With Hybrid Cloud Test Drive Issues
VMware's Hybrid Cloud Evaluation, a service first unveiled last August that lets users take a "test drive" on a VMware-powered public cloud run by an anonymous partner, isn't quite ready for prime time. VMware launched a 90-day free trial of the service earlier this month, but a flood of demand led to some users waiting hours, even days, for their service to be provisioned.
VMware told CRN it's working on the problem and apologized for the provisioning delays. While the Hybrid Cloud Evaluation isn't the VMware-managed hybrid cloud service unveiled earlier this month, it's still a litmus test for VMware's cloud capabilities, and is thus being closely watched by competitors.