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Hoping For YOUR Input/Suggestions! - OilKing - 01-26-2013 01:55 PM
Hey guys,
Thanks for the warm welcome back, the great trades on the go, and the fun this board brings to me on a daily basis! It feels great to be back in the hobby again!
The sole reason I got into this Hobby was because of a great friend of mine (now a Mod). I knew nothing about the hobby, collecting, or how to even approach this all. However, with the help of him and everybody here, I've managed to gather quite the collection in the last couple of years.
With being new to the hobby, I had to learn a lot of lessons in a VERY hard way... Over paying for product, getting screwed in trades, and having a PC that involved too many teams, products and players. Oh, I've learned... haha!
So, now that I'm back home in Edmonton, and our team is absolutely amazing, it's made my PC change extremely easy... As many of you have seen I've latched to Hall, Eberle and.... Well, that's the newest problem....
I need advice on two things....
1) Dubnyk or Fistric? I have nothing for Dubnyk right now, and every one of Fistric's RCs (including the Cup Auto/Patch RC). I am aware that Dubnyk may not become a shimmering star, and Fistric isn't guaranteed to play full-time on the roster (yet), but I want a lower end player to add to my collection.... Throw me your input/suggestions on the matter.
2) The issue of trading.... So, I've done a few newer trades which pretty much turned into a massive gamble. It's hard to find people willing to give up Ebs or Hallsy cards, so I find myself trading bait for bait... Usually decreasing my new bait in the process, then getting left with cards I don't need.
With this, how should I be approaching trading to build my PC? Is doing bait for bait a good idea? Should I be holding off until I find people with PC stuff up for trade?
I know, this all sounds like "noob" questions, but I'm stumped... I don't want to continue spending money on ("A different site") if I can be trading 1-for-1... This is part of the reason I'm also contemplating a 3rd (lower end) player for my PC.
Hope to read some of your experiences/suggestions!
As always, take care of yourselves and each other!
RE: Hoping For YOUR Input/Suggestions! - twobroscards - 01-26-2013 07:36 PM
Are you at all interested in collecting all Oilers cards period? For me, I find that collecting all Los Angeles Kings cards usually gives me plenty of options when trying to work out a trade. Usually you will have low, mid and high end cards to choose from depending on what the other trader is looking for from your inventory.
My only question right now with my PC is how the new USPS rates will effect how I trade with my neighbors to the north moving forward. It will be a lot harder for me to do a $5 for $5 trade now since it will cost $7 just to ship.
I must say though that the way both Fistric and Dubnky played the other night against the Kings, if they continue that play, you will be happy with whomever you choose.
RE: Hoping For YOUR Input/Suggestions! - bonnev659 - 01-27-2013 11:17 AM
Tim I would ask yourself what do you enjoy in collecting as rule #1 collect what you enjoy/like
my advice is to continue to chase what you enjoy
for trading... i done trades which was big trades and small trades but i haven't done anything in a while as al my cards are in storage
hopefully others can help you out


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This one was inspired by a comment by Fish.
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As mentioned in parent, a non-compete will screw you before you even get off the ground, since your very plan for the software could be construed as very direct competition, even if it doesn't share a single character of code with their product.
Assuming you didn't, retain a lawyer anyway. Anyone can be sued for anything in this day and age. The trick is, with the help of the lawyer, you can make sure any suit wouldn't be able to stick in the first place. Even if there's never any legal action, the lawyer will still prove helpful to you.
"Anyone can be sued for anything in this day and age."
I'm going to sue hellion0 for not translating his post into Chinese. Think it will get dismissed before we even hit the door? How about any lawyer laughing you out of his office?
I know people who have lost outrageous suits because they failed to show up in court. I'm sure these suits would have been tossed out had they showed up because two of the people (5 where sued) had their lawyers who had it tossed in no time. 2 of the remaining 3 got lawyers and had their judgment overturned on appeals citing something about not being served notice properly and the last one doesn't want to spend the money because he got busted for some felony and will spend most of his life in prison.
In some areas, you have to show more then in others and the lawyers know what the minimum is and sometimes refuse to file (it makes them look bad). But once the case is filed, it doesn't disappear until some action is taken on it. The judge can't or doesn't throw something out without a request. IF no one requests it to be tossed out, then he can rule that there was no standing or whatever.
And in this specific case, it can easily come down to just getting sued into bankrupcy. The people may not lose in court on merit, but only because they ran out of money to pay for a lawyer to represent them in and out of court. And this type of case (in general, as it depends on specifics really), it's unlikely that a lawyer would be willing to go into the case on commission, as you only get money if the judge penalizes the other side or awards costs (and depending on your jurisdiction, 'costs' may not match what you actually pay your lawyer).
The people may not lose in court on merit, but only because they ran out of money to pay for a lawyer to represent them in and out of court.
Perhaps the solution in this case is to retain a lawyer on staff. This is a startup, right? Since they're anticipating fairly extensive legal issues from the get-go, they should hire a lawyer as a full-time employee, which would limit costs to be equal to his salary. They can pay him using venture capital money (just like how everybody else would be getting paid) until they have a sellable product.
Fixing this doesn't even require changing any actual code, since everything on the way supports Unicode well.
Steps required: convert existing comment data to UTF-8 (ok, that's a delicate one considering the size of the table), make Apache use UTF-8 as well, and possibly fix some filters.
Using an ancient charset like 8859-1 in this millenium is nothing but retarded.
Steps required: convert existing comment data to UTF-8 (ok, that's a delicate one considering the size of the table), make Apache use UTF-8 as well, and possibly fix some filters.
"And possibly fix some filters" is much easier said than done. Please read my previous post [slashdot.org] about why the installation of SLASH on Slashdot is configured to whitelist characters.
Is IPA somehow dangerous?
Only if you drink too much of it.
Is IPA somehow dangerous?
X-SAMPA is a workaround.
Yes. Remember the IDN homoglyph attack [wikipedia.org]?
Or the Euro sign?
€ produces €.
I get the feeling that the whitelist was put in place by someone who doesn't really know Unicode (and/or didn't want to spend time with it)
Correct. It's easier to whitelist Latin-1 than to comb the entire Basic Multilingual Plane looking for anything that's not part of
X-SAMPA is a workaround.
Yes it is... However one should assume that in 2008 a tech website would be able to support the technology X-SAMPA crudely reimplements. Also, SAMPA doesn't have nearly the penetration of IPA - while one can expect virtually anyone who has learned a foreign language to have at least encountered IPA, SAMPA is useful only to those who do phonetic discussions in a long-outdated encoding.
Yes. Remember the IDN homoglyph attack?
Hm, that's funny. I always assumed they had some kind of for
Oh - you can write non-ascii characters, but you will have to write the character entities yourself:
The lawyer wouldnt laugh at all.
He would only ask two questions: How far would you go and how big is your bank account.
As far as I know, there's no legal requirement to have a lawyer -- you can always represent yourself. There's only a right to legal counsel if you're accused of a crime -- and, I assume, some sort of requirement to represent someone else.
Even assuming that's not the case, there are always asshats like Jack Thompson.
Doesn't stop them trying.
A contract I once signed originally had one... they tried to cover work I did at home as well, and I just said I wasn't going to sign whilst that clause was in. When they refused I merely crossed it out before signing. They didn't bother to read what they were countersigning.. their loss.
This current job doesn't have one - in fact almost everything I write is under dual copyright so I can take the code and use it myself if we part company.
Being a programmer, your skill is programming and it is normal that you work in programming.
If you get laid off, you may work for a competitor, otherwise that would mean your ex-employer is deliberately trying to prevent you from making a living. If the only programming job you were able to find were for a competitor, you could not be expected to turn it down since you need to have a livelihood.
If you didn't get laid off but quit and the employer wants to prevent you from working for a competitor, your ex-e
Keep in mind IANAL, but we had a situation where I work that might be applicable. Our company bought another company (I'll call this other company X) that had a product offering we wanted. The founder of company X was paid a good deal of money and signed a non-compete that was in effect for 1 year.
During this 1 year time period, the founder of X used the money and hired a staff to build a competing platform with a new design and better technology, something he was able to afford while running the business himself.
On exactly the day after the 1 year non-compete ended, he opened his doors for business and started selling. There was nothing we could do about it because he had not competed with us during the time of the non-compete, he simply used that time to build a new platform. It was all new code, so we couldn't get him for that. We did investigate the data he was using but he had acquired it himself, from the same sources we used.
His new company sold to our competitor a couple of years later and he made another bundle. He's now under non-compete again, but has already started work on a third generation for when that one ends.
All this is saying, if you properly document your work to show it is all original, do not attempt to sign up any customers during any time period under which you may be covered by a non-compete -- not even beta customers, and more importantly don't continue working for your current employer, then I would think you would be ok.
The big thing though is to break all ties with your current employer, and you may even want to avoid meeting with folks that still work there. All the lawyers need is one thread connecting you to your current employer to make a case that they can claim your efforts, and since an established company generally has lawyers on staff and you don't, they can out spend you in litigation to the point it won't matter who is right.
I would suggest you and and your friends find an outside attorney to discuss the situation with, and be certain to have details of any statements you signed when you started working at your current employer.
out spend you in litigation to the point it won't matter who is right
This might be the most fucked up fact in human society.
Any legal system that has this problem should be considered utterly broken and dire need of disposal sooner rather than later.
A non-compete generaly has a limit to it. Check the wording on it closely. I have 2 possible solutions you could ask your layer about.
1) Start working on it as a personal project with friends. Do not form a company at first. You could have someone's sister start the company and register the domain. Once the non-compete expires, every one make it official.
2) Hold off on getting any customers or doing any releases until after the non-compete expires. If challenged in court, present the fact that they ca
3) Get the ok from your boss before you leave to join a software start up that your friend started. Mention to him that they dont have any product yet but it is a software company. Ask him if that makes it in conflict with the non-compete that you signed when started.
No, absolutely not. This will invaribly cause your boss to come after you, and it's none of their business what you do after you leave. Under NO circumstances should you ever revel your plans to your soon to be former employer... EVER.
The point of having a good lawyer is to ensure that you never need his services.
"If they can't take two blocks of code and say "he stole this" they have nothing"
There are four problem areas that you might face:
1.) contract law - your non-compete - you will be sued on this as an example to the others
2.) trademark law - (or more accurately, trade dress - look it up on wikipedia) - if you copy the look and feel of their product, expect to be sued
3.) copyright law - this is the area that the quoted poster is referring to - you might be ok on this one, although if they can prove similarity you might be screwed (because you sure had access to the code)- I'm not too familiar with copyright law with respect to computer code.
4.) trade secret law - (again look it up on wikipedia) if they can prove you copied any of their trade secrets with respect to the product you are screwed.
5.) patents - are their any patents on the software? Do you know that there is or isn't?
Also remember that even if they sue you and you win, you are still going to be in line to pay an attorney big bucks. So even if you win, you lose. And given the facts, expect to be sued immediately (I would sue you if I was the employer).
GET A LAWYER IF YOU PLAN ON DOING THIS.... you should not screw around with Slashdot on this one.
1 - Copy your ex employer product
2 - Get sued into bankruptcy
3 - ????
4 - Profit ???
IANAL, which is why you shouldn't ask legal questions on
IANAL, which is why you shouldn't ask legal questions on
If the answer to an Ask Slashdot is "ask a lawyer", the question was really "what should I tell my lawyer?".
Why get a lawyer when you can get unbiased and reliable advice here on
Remember, employment contracts usually cover ideas created while at a company as well as implementations. Check yours carefully, but chances are they already own the rights to the idea of what you're going to create, simply because you thought of it while working at the company.
On another note, it sounds like what you're doing is "management doesn't want us to do this properly, so we're going to leave and do it on our own." You're current company turned down one direction it could take, and you want to follow it anyway. Unfortunately, at this point that's their business plan whether they optioned it or not.
"look and feel" copyright claims have also been upheld in many courts, so you might want to avoid doing too close of a copy.
It sounds like you're getting yourself in for a world of hurt. If your "large" software corporation is truly large, they can simply outsurvive you in a lawsuit, whether or not they win. And considering what you're doing, there may very well be a strong enough case that a good lawyer can win. And that's all they would need to shut you down.
Unless you patent them.
Or do something related, that (initially) supports the existing product, making it faster or better? This will allow you to exploit the knowledge you already have and use your current employer as a reference/sales source.
Most start-ups I've ever worked for spawned from another (bloated) company in a symbiotic, but evolved to outstrip them.
(And you and I both know that on your computer somewhere are a load of tools that only you know about which could easily be suborned to your needs.)
Why not come up with a fresh idea? Spend your time coding instead of in court.
That will never do. Its completely incompatible with the legacy angst and frustration layers they have spent so much time developing.
...but the hardest and most important part of running a software product company is selling the product. Your new, better designed, better documented, better implemented product has to compete with the same feature set - you said it yourself - with a more established product. What advantages will your product give the customer, making it easier to sell and possibly making the customers switch ?
As for the legal issues, IANAL.
Zing, that's correct. The real question these guys should be asking themselves: are we really sure that management and the "sales drones" are fundamentally incompetent, and that we are fundamentally better? What makes them think that 10 years down the road their company would be any different? Perhaps selling a product to lots of different customers is just hard and hosted vs standalone is not, ultimately, such a big deal?
They should definitely read The Development Abstraction Layer [joelonsoftware.com] before moving this beyond just talk.
Overhyped by sales drones? Well, even if you don't, at least your colleagues believe in your product.
Their paycheck depends on them being "true believers". Can you imagine if they went around to customers and said "We want to sell you this really crappy, sucky product? How sucky is it? It will give you so many headaches you'll think Microsoft wrote it
It's very hard to get someone to believe something that goes against their perceived financial interests - which is why management frequently doesn't
Moreover, if you ever manage to build a software company where the product team and the sales team aren't perpetually trying to strangle one another... THAT'S your product right there. Tell the world how to do that. In my experience you'll be the first. =)
are we really sure that management and the "sales drones" are fundamentally incompetent, and that we are fundamentally better?
I would even ask, are these programmers really making the product they think they are? I've seen it happen before that a bunch of developers complain about their sales people, essentially that they were selling it wrong. The salespeople kept focussing on feature set A, while the developers thought feature set B was much more important.
And the problem there was that the customers cared about feature set A, and the salespeople knew it because they were the ones talking to the customers. The developers seemed to be more interested in developing what was fun/interesting to develop, while the customers just wanted certain specific functionality.
You are also working against an established company, with possibly great support. This can be a big killer for you. Business isn't all about code.
In fact having worked in software sales, I'd say that support is probably the determining factor in most sales unless you have a very specialized product. And if that's the case, you're going to need to outstrip your employer's old code by miles since they're the established player in the vertical.
As a developer, you may know that the code sucks. That it just somehow compiles. That it really should be subjected to a rewrite from scratch. That "WTF?!" is present in five more comments than is healthy. And you're probably correct. However, when it comes to actually making money from it, you just need to be better than your competition.
I've fought with coders and with salespeople at the same company, often times over the same issue (it's a hazard of being a sales engineer - you often end up as a moderator). Neither would exist without the other, so stop blaming each other and realize that both of your problems are management's fault
Not only am INAL, but I'm in a similar position as the original poster. I'm partly thinking that since I have personal projects that could benefit from the software, I'll keep it to myself until any non-compete expires (even if it's not enforceable) just to stay on the safe side. Which means that development is well underway, for me. It may never make it into the public. It may go out commercially. It may go out as open-source, with some sort of hosting(SAAS)/support-driven business model - right now, the most likely. But until you know that there's no valid case should your ex-employer sue you, I'd keep it as a personal project.
Heh, some of our former employees tried the exact same tactic, and as an added bonus actually managed to convince one of our sizeable customers to go with them, all based on promises of being able to give them a better system with more features using the latest and greatest programming languages that were the rage at the time. (I'll freely admit that the company I work for still uses COBOL on it's older clients business systems)
The both lost - 5 years and many, many millions down the line the customer turned round and said "Right, this isn't working, we want our old legacy system back". In that time these former employees and thier new company were unable to provide a rewrite that was as stable, fast or feature laden as the system they were rewriting it on, so the customer simply came back to us and said "Where do we sign?".
The most amusing part was when the negotiations were taking place, the former employees tried to sell us thier IP and the system they had developed. Our CEO simply laughed at them.
Don't get me wrong - I fully admire what they attempted, but the manner in which they underestimated what it would actually take to rewrite a legacy system (incorporating 23 years of ongoing development) from scratch was a perfect example of "If it ain't broke, don't fix it".
To re-iterate, management and sales are hard. If you don't have a marketing plan and strategy from day one, and you guys think you can just build a better product than your current employers in six months, expect to fail.
How wealthy are you? Most businesses operate in the red for the first 2-5 years. What that means is that, even after all the revenue, you'll have to loan money to the company, or secure a loan for the company (much easier said than done, you can generally only get business loans for hard assets), to be able to pay the expenses, and those expenses include no money for you or your co-founders. Can you afford to work for -$x for 2 years. If you are under capitalized from the start, you will fail.
How much time do you have? If you think you're signing up for a 9-5, show up, program, and leave, you're in for a rude awakening. Operating a businesses is significantly more time intensive than you think it is, and chances are you won't be able to afford all of the 'worthless' support staff that your current company has. All the jobs they do, you get to do too. Expect to work no less than double time for the first couple of years, and more realistically be prepared to spend all of your time on it. Underestimating, being unwilling, or being unable to commit the necessary time will lead to failure.
How risk adverse are you? 80-90% of businesses fail within the first 5 years. Are you, having made no money after 20 months, going to cut your losses and walk away? What about your co-founders? You have to be prepared to accept the fact that you could potentially lose ever dollar you put into your company. If you're not, don't even consider this.
I think you make very valid points. However there is an advantage good programmers can have, even over a well-established company: They may be able to complete the project. The waste and the insanity of IT companies does not just exist in Dilbert cartoons, it's real.
That's not to say that it's as easy to manage people as it is to complain about management, or that you can run a company
Get a lawyer.
Long answer:
If you signed any sort of NDA, you might be liable for any information you gained while on the job (for example, architecture, business logic, algorithms.) If you didn't, you still might (theft of intellectual property.) I imagine you'd be quite safe if you could somehow prove that you had never inspected the code in any way. Since I'm guessing at least one of you was a programmer, I imagine you can't prove this. I, personally, would find the whole thing dubious and recommend avoiding it, but if you want to try anyway - get a lawyer.
Starting a new company is easy, the hard part is getting the revenue to keep it going. A lawsuit will cost you time and money and is a great distraction from doing business. Even if you win the lawsuit, the company may go under due to the legal costs. I would recommend making "
You could save the money on a lawyer.
You'll likely get sued regardless of whether they have a case or not. If you have the money to fight it, it will drag on for some time.
If you ever need to raise money, no VC will invest in your company if they know you have a potential legal liability.
Depending on the nature of the software (more likely to happen if its expensive / low volume), your previous company may try to harass your customers too.
It sucks, but its the nature of the game. Unless the current company that you work for isn't willing to do anything quasi-legal to preserve their business.
That is exactly right. If any of the guys had access to code/algorithms that the old company considers trade secrets, then they are in a world of pain if they replicate that.
If it comes to a lawsuit, their old employer will most likely subpoena them to provide their new code to an independent expert for code comparison. Again, any hint of copying even small pieces (or recoding algorithms considered trade secrets from memory), and they are done for.
If they absolutely must stay in the same area they already w
Presumably you're planning on using a different name, logo, and such for your product. It isn't hard to avoid trademark issues. You've already pointed out that you're not taking code, so that rules out copyright issues. If the old company has been patenting aspects of the project, this could be a potential for legal trouble as having worked on the old project might make it easier to claim willful infringement on any of these. It sounds like your plan is to change things up enough that this probably isn't an
First off, don't ask "can I be sued for this?" You can be sued for eating a ham sandwich. The important question is whether you'll face legal action over this, and only secondarily whether you'll prevail. Court process today is so messed up that paying for a lawsuit, in both time and money, is often more ruinous than the final judgment against you.
Being in the legal right does not insulate you from lawsuits. It never has. You should be more concerned with pre-emptively preventing a lawsuit from being filed, not whether you would prevail in court if one were to be filed.
One of the reasons why so many people say "get a lawyer!" is because, believe it or not, lawyers are very good at this sort of thing. Lawyers are excellent business negotiators. Talk to a lawyer, explain what you want to do, explain that you don't want to be sued. The odds are very good the lawyer will be able to get you a way in which you get to do what you want to do without worrying about a lawsuit being filed.
A good lawyer wins lawsuits. A great lawyer prevents lawsuits from being filed in the first place.
Good luck!
First off, don't ask "can I be sued for this?" You can be sued for eating a ham sandwich. The important question is whether you'll face legal action over this, and only secondarily whether you'll prevail. Court process today is so messed up that paying for a lawsuit, in both time and money, is often more ruinous than the final judgment against you.
Maybe I've gotten a bad impression of how the legal system works in the US, but I'd say there's way too many reasons for them to file a lawsuit regardless of whether they win or lose. Consider this, they got an existing product with an existing revenue stream. Their development pace will probably take a massive hit from these resignations. How do they buy time to rebound from that? Well suing you so draw money out of your development fund, making your people spend time documenting that you've done nothing w
* Do you have an NDA or non-compete clause? In that case - follow it.
* In general, unless the softawre implements patents, you are free to copy it.
* Especially if you can proove that the stuff you DO copy is publicly available. This can include features, UI workflows, even architecture. Proove is easy: demoes, public documentation etc. all proof that you did not use "hidden knowledge". Even thigns that you can deduct (not reverse engineer) from an available demo helps here.
That said, the devil IS in the det
You probably have nothing to worry about.
It's all cool.
hosted vs. stand-alone
Yeah, I'm sure a hosted Operating System would totally rock!
Can we be sued for IP infringement, theft, or whatever? Are workers allowed to imitate the product they were working on?
Try it, and let us know. And we could discuss the lawsuit later too, I mean, make it a series
Watch out. Definitely talk to a lawyer. It will be very hard to prove that your knowledge of your employer's product didn't make it into the new product. It's not particularly difficult to meet copyright requirements, but there are other aspects. Main issues are going to be common law things like unfair competition, as well as trade secrets. People do this kind of thing all the time, and they also frequently get sued for it. You'll have to consider your particular circumstances, but if this seriously
It'd make to much sense to allow improvement and competition of the application of software ideas in the proprietary world.
It'd be rather self contradictory of a proprietary software company to not sue.
Did any of you sign no-compete agreements? Clearly you don't have any sort of hope for a clean room development environment.
People sue others all the time and it can be a very resource draining matter to deal with. Consider SCO....
So maybe in the overall picture, either way you go, its not going to be any mor
Why not assume the worst situation?
Write a business plan in which you:
- Have 20K available for a lawsuit (number pulled out of air)
- Have enough reserve to survive the time while you write said product
Also, consulting a lawyer will cost money but it's a good idea because that investment alone will weed out the talkers. Everyone dreams of starting a company some day. So your friends/teammates of course love to talk about it. But will they be there when plans get serious? Or will their spouse have objections?
Sorry to reply to self, but this topic got me because of the whole start-your-business stuff.
In the past two years, I've started my own business. I've learned that I can do only one thing at a time: either sales or coding. Not both.
For me it turned out that I'm not bad at sales. I hardly touch code anymore because I just don't have the time; I have to keep the 'pipe' filled with new things. But I'm OK with that.
Question is: are you OK with that as well?
Perhaps do up a good demo and sell it as the next version of the product?
Build a buisiness case, and sell it, set it up as a small more or less independant programming group, with clear goals etc.
(And have upper management sign off on it, in writing)
Occasionally even large companies demonstrate signs of harboring intelligent life.
(I realise YMMV seriously)
Enterprise Liability [wikipedia.org].
You have to be careful because unless you really understand how the laws work, you can get into trouble for just following advice even from a lawyer. For example there's something known as "piercing the corporate veil" which gets around setting up fictitious corps for the purpose of insulating another entity. In order to do this, one must prove that the corporation in question does not act as a corporation should (have a board, have a corporate account and books, have records of board meetings, etc).
Also keep in mind that lawyers often operate as partnerships so they too are businesses. Their duty as an agent is to of course act in your best interest but as a business they're hired to "win". So of course they might say that you can do such and such but it all depends on how good of a lawyer they are and how well their experience or advice will hold up against the competition's lawyers.
Sure, you should speak to a lawyer but if you really want to play dirty you'd better take a business law class and understand the rules of the game yourself. To do otherwise is just like walking through a gauntlet blind.
This advice is for the OP. You, the parent, may have had experience with this already and know what you're doing to get away with it.
I think your biggest obstacle to success will be your attitude towards salespeople!
As fabulous as you may think your software is, selling it is rather important!
Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice. So, yeah, get a really good lawyer and get some good legal advice before you do anything.
Over the past 10 years, I have served as an expert witness in a number of IP-related software lawsuits, many of which have a fact pattern pretty much identical with what you've laid out.
Yes, they can sue you on (at least) two different grounds: copyright violation and theft of trade secrets.
The case Computer Associates v. Altai [wikipedia.org] established the concept of non-literal copyright infringement of source code. Even if you rewrote the program from scratch in another programming language, the AFC ("abstraction, filtration, comparison") test could be used to find similarities, and your (former) employer could argue copyright infringement, not just on source code grounds, but on architecture, design, database schemata, and data file structure.
Even if you go one step farther and use a "clean room reverse engineering" [wikipedia.org] effort to rewrite the code, you could still be sued (and lose) for theft of trade secrets. Your employer would need to identify those trade secrets, show what steps it took to protect its trade secrets (typically such actions as IP and/or confidentiality agreements, some measures of physical and electronic security, etc.), and argue for the value of those trade secrets. You would have to show that those "trade secrets" can be documented outside of their history at the company you're leaving.
Note that if any one of your group of "good friends" is seen as having a significant position in your large software company, they can also try to come after you for "breach of fiduciary duty".
In any case, they might well name each of you individually as defendants along with whatever new company you set up to develop this software.
In short, there are major risks to what you are describing and not a lot of upside without an explicit release. It can be done, and done successfully, but lawsuits are expensive.
If you do get sued, just print and cut this out and give it to the judge and you can go home.
| This card may be kept
| until needed or sold.
Before leaving the company, delete all the existing code, smash the servers, shred the backups, bomb the offsite storage, and slaughter any employee or customer who doesn't follow you. That way when you do release your product, there will be no one left to try sue you-- and even if there is, they don't have a product to use as evidence anymore.
(Suggested because this advise is just about as good as anything else you'll get on the thread. Get a lawyer. Seriously, why to people insist on asking Slashdot "How do I do this legally questionable thing without getting caught?". Do you really thing that when you do get sued, you can go to court and use as an excuse "because halcyon1234 told me it was ok"?)
First of all, posting a question like this on a public forum such as Slashdot isn't going to get you any answers you can have confidence in. In fact, the posting itself, though made on a "no name" basis, does provide a few clues, is traceable to whoever posted it initially, and could come back to haunt you, as evidence of your timing and intent, if nothing else. Are you sure no one could ever link this up to you? Are you sending emails like this to each other as well? Pretty dumb, if you are. Find a lawyer and get some competent (and confidential) advice before you make indelible records of your deliberations and footprints.
Contemplate four things:
(1) The "Law." Does it favor you?
(2) The "Facts" Will you be able to prove that the law is what you think it is?
(3) The "Legal War Chest" Can you afford to prove "the facts?"
(4) The "House Lawyer" Can you afford a house lawyer?
If you act on your contemplations, you DEFINITELY need a lawyer. You must assume that your former employer will go after you (if you have a dime) and you must prepare for that. You'll need to be extra-careful about documenting code-origins. Every act that your company takes probably ought to be vetted. You may want to 'chinese-wall' some code development from others. Lots to think about.
You are entering the realm of the blood-sucking lawyers, as the man from Jurassic Park said.
It's not only +1 Informative, +1 Insightful, but also +1 Interesting.
Also, compared to a lawyer, it is +1 Useful and +1 Cheap, not to mention +1 Fits In A Backpack.
The last thing one knows in constructing a work is what to put first. -- Blaise Pascal


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NEW YORK CITY — In an unprecedented move for New York City, the city is preparing to raze hundreds of homes deemed unsafe following Hurricane Sandy.
Officials confirmed Sunday that the city will take a direct hand in demolishing 200 homes in some of the worst hit coastal areas of Brooklyn, Queens, and Staten Island.
The city has reportedly targeted Queens homes in Breezy Point, Belle Harbor and Rockaway Beach, as well as Staten Island's Midland Beach, South Beach, and Fox Beach, and Brooklyn's Gerritsen Beach for the compulsory demolition, and says it is investigating 500 more damaged homes that may also be razed.
In total, 891 homes have been issued red placards from the Department of Buildings, deeming them unsafe to enter, according to the NY Times, of 80,000 inspections that have been conducted as part of the city's rapid assessment process. The vast majority demolished will be one- and two-family homes, the paper reported.
Additionally, several dozen homes have received notices in the alarming form of DOB violations — some for for "failure to maintain" a structure — as members of the Breezy Point Cooperative did, where many seaside bungalows were left in pieces after the hurricane.
Though a DOB spokesman insisted Saturday that the violations were not indicative of any monetary penalties against the homeowners, it was unclear if that was an initial step in tagging homes that will be demolished. The department admitted that notifying homeowners of slated demolitions was one of their greatest challenges.
DOB workers have been canvassing neighborhoods trying to reach owners through relatives and neighbors, but the DOB does plan to issue emergency declarations to bulldoze dangerous homes even if owners cannot be reached, the Times reported.
"This is not easy, in this case, because of all these displaced people, but we're going to do the best we can, but we may have to move on it if we can't find them," Commissioner Robert L. LiMandri told the newspaper.
Breezy Point, where scores of homes burned down in addition to mass structural damage caused by flooding there, may see some of the most tear-downs, a possibility that has drawn mixed reactions from residents.
Meaghan Wentland, 31, who lives in a Bedford Ave. home with her boyfriend Julian McKinley, 27, and their son, said her home was flooded out and sustained exterior damage, but she didn't think it faced demolition.
For those that are, she said, Breezy Point Cooperative, which runs the neighborhood, would be able to reach people, since it had phone numbers going back generations, and that the Department of Buildings should be able to reach everyone whose home the city plans to demolish.
"This is not like other parts of the city where you step off your porch and you're on city property," said Wentland. "If it did happen, there would be uproar, but I just think most or all people would be notified in time."
Over in Belle Harbor, one resident said there was no excuse for the city not to notify someone if they were going to destroy the house.
"If the house poses a danger, it needs to be torn down to protect the innocent people around it, I get that," said Daniel Murphy, 53, a physician whose house was mostly spared. "But even if it's a matter of days, I don't see how they can overlook that."
Murphy, a 22-year resident of Beach 230th Street, added that he didn't expect many enforced demolitions in Belle Harbor.


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TOPEKA, Kan. (WIBW)-What you pay in taxes, and what health and retirement benefits you might receive hang in the balance as Republicans and Democrats work to avoid the edge of the fiscal cliff.
They have three weeks to find a solution and at least one Kansas Republican believes we could see a standoff.
If no compromise is found, a middle income family of four is projected to take a $2,000 hit in taxes.
While Republican Congresswoman Lynn Jenkins toured three small businesses today to hear their concerns, others voiced their opinions about stubbornness in congress.
Protesters lined up outside Jenkins' office shouting for a compromise in Washington.
Former educator John Esau was among those concerned. "If my taxes go up due to no progress on the fiscal cliff, that will affect my life and many others so we are here to encourage our representative to do something about that."
Jenkins kicked off a three stop tour in Kansas Monday morning to hear various concerns from small business owners in the sunflower state.
Congresswoman Jenkins says she'll take the concerns from business owners in northeast Kansas back to Washington D.C.
At one point, the Topeka Capital Journal reported, she asked the group if they're willing to go over the fiscal cliff in order to force changes in entitlement programs like social security, medicare and veterans programs.
President Obama is standing firm on raising taxes on the richest americans to reduce the deficit. One BRB official said he's watching how the debate unfolds.
Daniel Welch, Director of Human Resources at BRB, said "'All the experts say that if we increase tax cuts and decrease spending, we will be faced with another recession and I don't think anyone wants that."
Another concern is how potential spending cuts could impact the proposed $1.14 billion National Bio and Agro Defense Facility in Manhattan. Jenkins is optomistic saying, "It's a matter of national security and the number one priority of the federal government."
Jenkins made stops today in Topeka, Leavenworth, and Ottawa. In Washington, both sides say the lines of communication are open.


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It's for 9 through 14 year olds and runs from Aug. 6-8.
The University of Minnesota Crookston will hold its annual summer robotics camp Tuesday through Thursday, August 6–8, 2013. The camp will be three days filled with educational fun intended for students between the ages 9 to 14.
The cost of camp is $80 per person, however there is a $10 discount per participant from the same household. Students should arrive at 8:45 a.m. for check-in at Evergreen Hall each day and be picked up at 4:30 p.m. from Evergreen Hall. Students should bring a bag lunch for the first two days. Lunch will be provided for participants on the third day.
Robotics camps at the U of M Crookston will teach 4th-8th graders about math, science, and technology associated with robotics. It will be a fun and challenging experience for boys and girls interested in learning more about robots. Students will work in teams to design, build, and program robots. Each student will be issued a complete Lego MINDStorm Nxt 2.0 robotic kit and a laptop to be used during the camp.
Each camp session is limited to 30 participants and robotics camp only happens once every year. For more information go to http://www1.crk.umn.edu/camps or download the registration form. For questions, contact Mark Gill at 218-281-8258.


text: A company in California has been soliciting Iowans for its services to obtain copies of property deeds. Chris Hoegh, owner of Marion County Title Services in Knoxville and Pella, says once a real estate transaction has been recorded by the county, a copy of a property deed is no longer needed by the owner. Hoegh says the practice of private companies charging people to send them a copy of the document is legal, but is ethically questionable, as those documents are available through the county recorder's office for a few dollars or less. The operation out of California, which has a Des Moines mailing address, sends people a notice asking if they have a copy of their property deed, and offers to supply one for a cost of $87.


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That's Debatable: How Will Murray State's Season Finish?Posted by WCarey on January 26th, 2012
That's Debatable is back for another year of expert opinions, ridiculous assertions and general know-it-all-itude. Remember, kids, there are no stupid answers, just stupid people. We'll try to do one of these each week during the rest of the season. Feel free to leave your takes below in the comments section.
This Week's Topic: With Syracuse's loss last Saturday, Murray State is the last unbeaten team. How do you see the rest of the Racers' season playing out?
Kenny Ocker, Correspondent
I honestly think Murray State is going to go undefeated until the NCAA Tournament. Morehead State doesn't have a return trip to face the Racers, the matchup against Austin Peay is a home game, and so is the BracketBusters game. If that happens, Murray State will probably get the courtesy of a #4 seed from the committee, and that may mean that the Racers actually get a pretty clear path to the Sweet Sixteen. I don't see them going any farther than that, simply based on the intense level of scrutiny and attention that will be given to a team that hasn't seen another NCAA Tournament-bound team since early December. But it's going to be one hell of a fun story to follow for the next couple of months, regardless of when there is finally a blemish on Murray State's record.
Brian Otskey, Big East Correspondent
Murray State is a real tough team for me to get a read on because of its schedule. Sure it's 20-0 but with only one or two quality wins, I don't think anyone can say with certainty just how good this team is. I believe Murray State is a borderline top 25 team. Going forward, it should be able to win out in the regular season and will likely take the OVC Tournament title as well now that Ivan Aska has been cleared to play. Playing with a target on your back every night is never easy but this team is good enough to run the table against the incredibly poor completion its conference offers. The Racers' final three games are on the road and that's where they're most likely to fall as the pressure mounts and they don't have the home crowd behind them. Plus they will get a still to be determined BracketBuster matchup, another possible stumbling block. With an RPI in the high 30s and an SOS well over #200, I don't see this team getting more than a #5 seed in the NCAA Tournament. It has the potential to make a run but I foresee it bowing out in its first or second NCAA game.
Walker Carey, Correspondent
Looking at Murray State's remaining slate of games, I am not seeing any conference game that I think the team could potentially lose. I think it will be very interesting to see who the Racers are matched up against in their BracketBusters game. If the Racers draw a tough opponent (someone like St. Mary's or Long Beach State), I think the perfect season could end there. If the Racers are able to defeat their BracketBusters opponent then I am almost entirely certain the team will enter the NCAA Tournament with a perfect record. If Murray State goes into the NCAA Tournament undefeated, I believe it should be given a #4 seed or a #5 seed. I believe the Racers have much too talented of a backcourt to be an early round upset victim, so I think they will definitely get past the first weekend, but that will be all, as I see the Racers' season ultimately ending by getting blown out by a #1 seed in the Sweet Sixteen.
Evan Jacoby, Columnist/Correspondent
As author of the Tracking The Four piece, I'm heavily following the Racers and their pursuit of perfection. They have tough road games remaining at Southeast Missouri State and Tennessee Tech in mid-late February. But their toughest task will be the BracketBuster game against another top mid-major opponent (Long Beach State? George Mason? Creighton?) that is scheduled by ESPN and will take place sandwiched between those two road tests. I expect Murray State to lose at least once during that stretch and head into the Big Dance with one or two losses as a #5 or #6-seed. I think they will win one game in the NCAA Tournament and perhaps another depending on the matchup, though the Sweet Sixteen is their ceiling. Isaiah Canaan, Donte Poole, Ivan Aska, and a collection of role players is a solid bunch that I expect to make some noise but by no means will they be able to knock out a #1 or #2-seed in the round of 16.
Kevin Doyle, Columnist/Correspondent
Remember two years ago when Murray State knocked off Vanderbilt in the First Round of the NCAA Tournament, and then nearly beat Butler in the Second Round? If you do, several integral pieces of that squad are now upperclassmen and understand what it takes to win in a tournament setting. If we, as fans, have learned anything from the runs that George Mason and Virginia Commonwealth have made in recent years, it is that experienced teams who have a formidable point guard play are battle tested become quite dangerous in the NCAA Tournament. For strong play at the PG position, look no further than Isaiah Canaan who is one of the best in the business and a legitimate candidate to earn All-America honors. Assuming the Racers roll through the rest of the regular season and conference tournament unblemished, I believe they will earn no worse than a #4 seed and will be in a good position to reach the second weekend of the Tournament.
Matt Patton, ACC Microsite Correspondent
I see the Racers losing one game – especially if they come out flat in their BracketBusters game. It is really, really hard to win close to 30 straight games even against lesser opponents. Having said that, a loss does not affect my opinion of Murray State's talent or postseason prognosis. The fact is the team is borderline Top 25. Its weak schedule makes it difficult to say exactly where it should sit in the rankings, but I think its resilience should make it a difficult out in March. But if the Racers grab a top-five seed in the Big Dance, I also think they will stand a good shot at being upset. This team knows how to win, but so do the rest of the teams in the NCAA Tournament. Ultimately, the Racers will go as far as their backcourt can carry them. I see that as the Round of 32, but I would not be shocked to see them make the Sweet Sixteen depending on the match-ups.
Connor Pelton, Pac-12 Microsite Correspondent
Murray State's first loss won't come until the second round of the NCAA Tournament. It's hard to believe, but the rest of its (announced) schedule is so bad, I can't see it falling until the Dance. However, it will be interesting to see who ventures into Murray, Kentucky, for BracketBuster Weekend. This is traditionally one of the best weekends of the season, and the whispers are Cleveland State, St. Mary's, Wichita State, or Nevada will be taking on the Racers. I can see each one of these teams winning, but for the sake of argument, let's say they draw a lesser opponent like Western Illinois. The only other possible trip-up before the Dance would come in the OVC Tournament, which is played February 29-March 3. Crazy things happen in conference tournaments, but considering the field is led by 10-9 Southeastern Missouri State, I'm not giving it much of a chance.
Andrew Murawa, Pac-12/MW Correspondent & Pac-12 Microsite Correspondent
At this point in the season, I'm continually putting Murray State somewhere in the middle of my Top 25, not necessarily because I really think they're one of the 25 best teams in the nation, but because that big ol' zero on the right side of their record is an achievement worth recognizing. But, I don't believe that zero will still be there when the Racers name shows up in the bracket on Selection Sunday. The most obvious challenge remaining on the regular season schedule comes on the weekend of February 18 when they will host a BracketBusters game, likely against either St. Mary's or Long Beach State. While their home crowd will give them an advantage against a visitor coming across the country in the middle of conference play, that's the day the dream season hits the first bump. They'll win the rest of their regular season games and sneak through their two games of OVC Tournament on a neutral site, to enter the NCAA Tournament as 30-1 team, earning a #4 seed. They'll then immediately be the most-picked-against #4-seed in the history of the brackets and reward their doubters with a loss to a high-major also-ran like Stanford or North Carolina State.


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Shucks, I was just standing in the grocery check-out line with several items in my buggy and I noticed a young man with a couple of things in his hand.
Well, at my age, I don't have too many urgent items on my agenda, so I suggested he go around me and not have to wait.
Well sir, he thanked me before moving ahead and then he thanked me after checking out. I thought he was kind since some folks move on and move out.
Afraid for
my own
Being 16 years old in 2014 has its benefits. I could not imagine living back in the technological "stone age," so to speak, where not everyone owned TVs, computers or cell phones. However, there are far more bad things about growing up in this age than good. The human race, for the most part, seems to be going down the evolutionary ladder in terms of intellect. Probably more than half of my generation does not understand vital things that they need to know to be productive members of society.
Indian Land resident Jane Tanner has suggested that maybe Van Wyck could annex Indian Land. She said residents find the name "Indian Land" unattractive.
But you are so wrong.
I love the name Indian Land for my town. I moved here a short time ago and love the name better than plain old Fort Mill.
Don't say we find it unattractive, because not everyone does. I love the name and am proud to live in Indian Land.
Just think what would this world be without that precious baby?
He made the blind to see, the lame to walk.
That precious baby walked on water.
That precious baby turned water into wine and fed the multitudes.
That precious baby died for our sins.
That precious baby, yes, his name is Jesus.
Yes, what would this world have been without that precious baby?
Carl Miles
The massive public reaction to the tragic deaths of three black teens at the hand of white police officers has led to a national call for use of body cameras to record and prevent any future mistreatment of suspects.
There is ample precedent. Animal protection activists have used body cameras to document egregious atrocities and safety violations by workers in the meat, dairy and egg industries.
The resulting videos have led to a number of corrective actions, as well as felony convictions, meat recalls, and even a $500 million civil settlement.
I would like to thank Susan Ferrara for saying she "liked the name Indian Land."
I just cannot understand why someone like Jane Tanner or anyone moving into a new neighborhood or another state would complain about the name of a road or neighborhood that has had a name for many many years. I cannot imagine doing that.
In 2013, our Sen. Greg Gregory in his Spring Legislative Report wrote: SCDOT is moving forward with widening of S.C. 160 between Springfield Parkway in Fort Mill and the unfortunately named Possum Hollow Road.
I would like to thank The Lancaster News for providing the coming events section free of charge to the public. I belong to some organizations that depend on the large portion of their publicity for meetings, performances, luncheons etc.
Such publicity is invaluable to these organizations' success. And, anyone outside of Lancaster can read about all the exciting things that make Lancaster a great place to live.
Pat Clancy
J.R. Wilt's guest column of Oct. 17 (How incorporation will help Van Wyck) is highly illuminating, but not in a way he intends. It shows exactly what incorporating Van Wyck would not do. Primarily, it wouldn't save the residents from any of the ills he outlines.
Please understand that I am not a fan of unrestrained development. Development should always be fashioned in an intelligent, planned way. I also have concerns that Lancaster County isn't always willing to do this, especially along U.S. 521.
Whatever happened to living the way God intended us to?
Our government used to stand by "thus sayeth God." Our country was founded on the greatest book that's ever been written.
But now, our children are living in fear every day in our schools. Prayer in school is now like a disease or plague. If you pray, you're bashed for it.
In our government, court systems, city hall, we can't pray to the only true and living God.
He created this world and everything in it. God is the giver of life and the taker of life.
I have lived on Locustwood Avenue more than 21 years.
Living beside the school (Erwin Elementary), I understand that you must pick up your children. This year, however, has been the worst ever. I don't understand why some people think it is OK to block my driveway and Pink Dogwood Avenue. It is really sad when a few people think the rules don't apply to them.
Yeah, I'm talking about you, lady in the blue SUV and the family in the little black car that was blocking Pink Dogwood and would not move.
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F&M Bank APSU Intercollegiate final results
HOPKINSVILLE, Ky. -- Golden Eagle senior Joshua Simer earned his second Top 10 finish of the year, leading the Tennessee Tech men's golf team to a tie for 10th place in the 17-team F&M Bank APSU Intercollegiate which wrapped up with a final round Tuesday.
Simer tied for 10th individually among the 90 players in the 54-hole tournament which was played at the par 72, 6,841-yard Links at Novadell. The senior from Bolivar, Tenn., led the Golden Eagles for the third time this season.
A second-round 69 on Monday helped put Simer among the
tournament leaders and he closed play Tuesday with a 74 for a 215
total. As a team, the Golden Eagles shot 297-291-294--882 total for
10th place.
Eastern Kentucky, one of eight Ohio Valley Conference teams in the tournament, captured the team crown by three shots over Towson. Oakland was two strokes back in third place, followed by Western Illinois and Jacksonvile State to round out the top five.
The second five includes host Austin Peay (873), Murray State (875), Missouri State (877). SIU Edwardsville (881) and Northern Illinois and Tech (882).
Following Simer for Tech, senior Jared Dunn tied for 25th place,
shooting 75-70-74--219. Senior Wesley Korth (73-74-73--220) was
next, tied for 35th place, followed by seniors Preston Marshall
(77-84-73--234) and Jake Heatherly (77-78-79--234), tied for 83rd
Golden Eagles playing as individuals in the tournament included
senior Blake Garrison, tied for 50th place at 74-69-81--224, and
Travis Ramsey, tied for 79th place at 77-77-78--232.
The tournament was the final action of the fall schedule for coach Craig King's team.


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My palm oil journey all started with a simple jar of peanut butter. I'd been happily serving a newer all-natural brand to my family, until I realized one of the ingredients was palm oil. That's the secret to those new natural lines labeled "no need to stir". Reading labels is perhaps the most important task when supermarket shopping these days. While manufacturers have responded to consumer concerns about the use of high fructose corn syrup and trans fats, such as partially hydrogenated oils, there's a new ingredient in the hot seat: palm oil. So, what is it all about and is this yet another ingredient we should add to our "do not buy" list?
The main case against palm oil is due to its sustainability and the destruction to the rainforest and orangutan habitats. Consumers are taking to the streets again and companies are listening, but change is slow moving. Issues of sustainability and ethical harvesting of palm oil are not new. Back in 2004, the Roundtable on Sustainable Palm Oil was created recognizing the need to create better industry standards for production. The problem is the demand for palm oil has increased with lightening speed.
Sustainability isn't the only concern surrounding palm oil. The removal of partially hydrogenated oils from many products required a new ingredient to take its place. Palm oil is that ingredient, and while it is a "natural" product, it is still a saturated fat.
What exactly does that mean for your baby? Well, children under the age of two need certain fats for brain and growth development—that's why whole milk is recommended until age two. Making healthy food choices available for your children as they grow will lead to them making their own healthy choices into adulthood. Knowing what I now do about palm oil, it just doesn't make the cut on my list of healthy ingredients. And as for my peanut butter dilemma, that solved itself pretty easily by roasting some peanuts and making a smooth puree out of them in my food processor.
[Science Daily]
[Roundtable on Sustainable Palm Oil]
[Health Castle - Palm Oil]
[Health Castle - Good and Bad Fats]
[American Heart Association]


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Objection is mounting to the nomination of Janet Napolitano as the next University of California president, with students and immigration activists planning to protest against her at Thursday's meeting of the governing Board of Regents in San Francisco.
Napolitano, a former governor and attorney general of Arizona, announced Friday she would step down as President Barack Obama's U.S. Homeland Security secretary after her nomination to UC is confirmed. She is expected to attend the meeting, where regents are scheduled to vote on her nomination.
As the head of the national Department of Homeland Security, Napolitano is the face of the nation's immigration policy, a role that is making her unpopular with some UC activists. In her first two years as Homeland Security secretary, the United States deported more undocumented immigrants than ever before, the federal government announced in 2011. She also oversaw the so-called "Secure Communities" program that allows law enforcement and immigration officials to share fingerprints of arrestees.
UC Irvine student Andrea Gaspar, 22, said many students are upset by the Secure Communities program and object to its architect taking the reins at UC.
"A lot of families were being affected and harassed and searched for documentation, for their background and they were profiled," Gaspar said, adding that immigrant students fear that they will be unwelcome at UC with Napolitano at the head.
"It's going to be hard to be part of the university knowing that the head of the university has harassed your family and your friends," she said.
"We need someone who is willing to embrace a student as a human being and not as someone with a documentation status."
Napolitano supported a federal bill known as the DREAM Act, which sought to stop the deportation of children whose parents brought them to the United States illegally if they have no criminal record and are pursuing a college education or military career. Congress never passed the bill.
Despite her support for the DREAM Act, the website dreamactivist.org is collecting signatures on a letter that asks UC regents not to confirm Napolitano.
"Secretary Napolitano is the architect of the deportation machine that has resulted in over 1.5 million deportations during President Obama's tenure," the letter says. "She has no expertise in higher education, only in family separation, and no place in our public university system."
Napolitano is an unusual choice for UC, which for more than 100 years has been headed by men with rich backgrounds as scholars and university administrators. She would be the first woman – and the first career politician – to head California's premier system of higher education.
While she wouldn't be the first politician in the country to take the reins of a university, some California faculty are unhappy that someone with a thin academic background is in line to take UC's top job.
"Napolitano is contrary to every other president that UC has ever had. It seems to be a sign that they want to make a change, but it's not clear what that direction is," said William Drummond, a professor at UC Berkeley's Graduate School of Journalism.
"This is a question that will be hotly debated as people drift back from vacation – what does this mean about who the university is? Are we still the crown jewel in the academic world? Or now are we turning into more of a political entity, something that's kicked around within the framework of partisan politics? That's the uncertainty about what this means."
Christopher Newfield, a UC Santa Barbara professor who studies higher education issues, wrote a blog post criticizing UC for its interest in what he called the nation's "top cop."
"Meritocracies define 'being qualified' for the biggest job in a field as requiring prior experience in other jobs in the field. One is co-pilot before being pilot, a medical intern before being a licensed physician, Provost at Columbia before being Chancellor of UC Berkeley, and so on," Newfield wrote.
"Ms. Napolitano has no experience with university life or management and no known body of organized thought on the subject. It is not easy to make up for this. Being a political heavyweight is not a qualification for being a university president. Earning President Obama's trust is not a qualification."
Bob Powell, a UC Davis professor who chairs UC's statewide academic senate, defended the selection of Napolitano.
Being president of the UC system is very different than heading a campus, he said. The statewide president already acts as a political figurehead, he said, and does not hire faculty or make decisions about which professors get tenure – decisions made by campus-level chancellors.
"The president is (at the Capitol) a lot and is the first person anyone in the Legislature is going to call when they want to talk about the University of California," Powell said. For that reason, he said, a political president makes sense.


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Viewers who tuned in to watch Thursday's premiere of "Party Down South" on CMT may have noticed a familiar face — the reality TV show's cast includes Gheens native Mattie Breaux.
Viewers who tuned in to watch Thursday's premiere of "Party Down South" on CMT may have noticed a familiar face — the reality TV show's cast includes Gheens native Mattie Breaux.
Breaux, 24, is one of eight southerners chosen to spend the summer being filmed while living in a house in Murrells Inlet, S.C.
Breaux said producers approached her during a party at a bar on the Florida-Alabama border during spring break.
When she heard about the show, Breaux said she didn't think twice about participating.
"I had to try it," she said. "I don't want to live my life with regrets."
The show, she said, is similar to MTV's "Jersey Shore," but with a homestyle twist.
"It's about eight people from a Southern background having a good summer together," she said.
Breaux's bio on the CMT website says she "loves being the center of attention" and that "partying is one of her favorite pastimes."
"Standing tall at 6'3" with heels on, Mattie is never shy to speak her mind," the bio says.
Breaux proved just how much she likes to speak her mind during the show's first episode, which showed her arguing with her roommates over whether she was sober enough to go to a bar.
"You have a hard time standing, talking is pretty much something that you forgot to do two hours ago," her housemate Josh Murray said. "You can't call a cab, you can't walk to a bar and you damn sure can't form a sentence, so, no, man, we're staying in."
When she first got to the house she'd be sharing with seven other people, Breaux said, she was worried about living with strangers.
"I was very nervous," she said. "You get used to everyone you know back home, and I was nervous about how I was going to handle something new."
But the summer turned out well, she said.
"It was the best experience I had in my life. It was more than I could hope for," she said. "It helped me become a stronger person. ... I needed to see that I can do things like this."
Breaux said her parents were concerned that she was taking part in the show, but she acted the same in the house as she does in her everyday life.
"My family did question it because, you know, it's not just my family watching me, it's all of America," she said. "And I'm a little bit of crazy; I'm not going to lie."
While the show may not be everyone's favorite, Breaux said she hopes the show gives viewers a glimpse into her world.
"I hope most of all that people can see the hearts that we have," she said. "All of the roommates have hearts as big as the world."


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In this new post to his blog, Richard Thomas talks about a bug issue that he's "gotten in the middle of" and the conflict between the PHP group and the PEAR developers that came out of it.
Today I managed to get right in the middle of this. [...] Both pear and php are pointing the fingers at each other, neither seem to be able to work together and Im not even sure if either one of them has even taken the time to run my test code and realize what the issue is to begin with.
The problem comes when he created a a script with the Pear Mail, Mail_mime and Net_SMTP PEAR classes and, following the execution of the rest of the script, tried it both ways - turning the erro reporting back off or not messing with it at all. As a result, the code with the ending error_reporting() call throws an error, the one without does not.
Unfortunately, at the time of this writing both sides are still pointing at the other for blame on the issue.


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We constantly remind our 5-year-old granddaughter that she talks too much. Over school vacation week, we took our three grandchildren to church for Friday morning Mass. During the homily, I glanced sideways to make sure they were all behaving. My granddaughter tilted her head toward the priest and said, "Talking too much, eh?"
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Warren Franz
Warren Franz Warren H. Franz, age 91, an 87-year resident of the Kettle Falls and Colville area, passed away on April 6, 2013 in Colville. Warren was born on Sept. 5, 1921 in Pasco, the son of Frank and Eliza Ruth (Sell) Franz. Following Warren's birth, his family moved to California and then returned to Washington. They resided in Spokane for a short time before making Meyers Falls their home in 1925. Warren attended school through the eighth grade in Meyers Falls and then to Colville, where he attended high school and graduated in 1939. He relocated to Portland for a time, working in the shipyards during World War II. Warren returned home to log and to assist in the operation of the family farm in the Greenwood area. On Jan. 19, 1946, he married Ethel Irene McCleary in Colville and began a family. Warren continued logging until 1951, when he bought the Texaco Service Station in Kettle Falls. He operated the station for 15 years while driving school bus on the side. In 1966, Warren purchased the Texaco consignee-ship in Colville and provided products to the Colville and Kettle Falls stations, loggers and farmers of Northern Stevens County and heating oil to homes and businesses in Colville and Kettle Falls. Warren and Ethel moved to Colville in 1976. In 1979, Texaco released their holding in the Northwest and Warren became a Shell jobber (CO-PET-CO). In 1986, Warren switched to the Exxon brand at the self-service station at the north end of Colville. Ethel preceded him in death on Feb. 28, 1986. Warren continued operating the gas station during which time he met Lola Jean (Watt) Wohrle. They married on Sept. 5, 1987 in Colville and in 1988, Warren sold the Exxon station. He drove school bus for the Colville School District from 1988 to 1989. Warren then retired and discovered retirement was more enjoyable then he could have ever imagined. Warren enjoyed reading, listening to audio-books, people watching, travelogues, the History Channel and sport on television, gardening and yard work. He also took many trips, visiting all western states, western Canada, the United Kingdom, Germany, the Netherlands and traveling throughout Washington State for Masonic functions. Warren loved to share time with his family and created many wonderful memories with them along the way. On Jan. 16, 1946, Warren was accepted into the Kettle Falls Lodge No. 130 F&AM. He was also a member of the Pine Tree Order of Eastern Star No. 7 (serving as Worth Patron Twice), Rainbow Dad for his daughter, Carol, Greenwood Grange in Kettle Falls (serving as Master for two to three years), Scottish Rite, El Katif Shrine and N.E. Washington Shrine Club, which included driving with the Lizzie Patrol in countless area parades. Warren also volunteered at the Stevens County Historical Society Museum Warren is survived by his wife, Jean Franz, at the home; son, Douglas Franz and wife, Deanie, Colville; daughter, Carol Mountain and husband, Harry, Street, England; grandchildren, Gary Franz and wife, Sabrina, Wendy Rogers and husband, Darrel, Brandi Franz, all of Colville; Joshua Franz and wife, Tanya, Ocala, Florida; step-sons, Terry Wohrle and wife, Juliann, Spokane; Ron Wohrle and wife, Nancy, Puyallup; Michael Wohrle and wife, Sharon, Cottage Grove, OR; Richard Wohrle, Spokane; eight step-grandchildren; great grandchildren, Brandon, Cameron, Shenae Young and husband, Justin, Aubrey, Emily, Megan, Gabriel, Jadyn, Kami, Sierra, Tyler, Cody and Kyleigh; two great-great-grandsons, Zachary and Trevin Young; and 10 step-great grandchildren. The funeral service for Warren H. Franz will begin at 2 p.m., Thursday, April 18 at the Agricultural Trade Center in Colville. Doug and Deanie Franz will officiate the service. Graveside service will follow at the Meyers Falls Cemetery, Kettle Falls. Memorial contributions may be given to the Rite Care Language Center, Masonic Temple, W. 1108 Riverside, Spokane, WA 99201 and/or Shriners Children's Hospital, P.O. Box 2472, Spokane, WA 99210-2472. Please visit the on-line memorial and sign the guestbook at www.danekasfuneralchapel.com. Danekas Funeral Chapel and Crematory is entrusted with the arrangements.


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I come bearing bad news for people who relish the destruction of beautiful creatures. The Last Guardian and Ico and Shadow of the Colossus Collection have both been delayed, Sony has announced on the PlayStation Blog. The Last Guardian was previously due in the 2011 holiday season, while the Collection was expected this spring.
"To provide more challenging and better quality of content to users and to fulfill First Party Studio's obligations, I decided to postpone its release timing," director Fumito Ueda of developer Team Ico explained in a statement. "All the members of my production team are working together at a fast pace to develop and release the game in First Party Studio quality."
"I sincerely apologize to all the customers who have been waiting for 'The Last Guardian' for so long, but I beg for your patience," Ueda said. "I will also announce the new release timing at a later time."
The Collection spruces up Team Ico's PlayStation 2 classics Shadow of the Colossus and Ico for PS3 with HD resolutions, PlayStation Network trophies and 3D support. They'll prepare players for The Last Guardian, which will conclude the Ico trilogy with almost-certain heartbreak.


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Thursday, April 26, 2012
It's Over For The Senators ... And Maybe For Alfredsson
New York 2 Ottawa 1 (Rangers win series 4-3)
It's officially summer in Ottawa.
In the end, the Senators just didn't have enough pucks to break down the near impenetrable Rangers defence and their horrifyingly dominant goalie Henrik Lundqvist, who put in a performance worthy of Patrick Roy and Dominik Hasek.
The days ahead will be all about what went wrong for Ottawa and there will be some long knives pulled out of a few bony backs and bodies pulled out from under the buses, an annual April tradition in these parts (as it is in every NHL city but one).
Since you asked, if I had to throw a few stones myself, I'd be questioning why rookies like Mark Stone and Jakob Silfverberg were put in the lineup late in the series ahead of guys who have been with the team all season. Stone made one nice play on a big goal but both rookies didn't have an impact when they weren't struggling. How much energy could a guy like Kaspars Daugavins, universally adored in that dressing room, have given this team? Who knows. It probably wouldn't have made much of a difference because the Senators lost this series to a better team. The Rangers were better in the regular season and they were good enough to fend off a Senators team that had nothing to lose in the post-season.
There were other problems for Ottawa, most notably Jason Spezza and Milan Michalek getting checked and hounded into insignificance almost every single game and Nick Foligno's unfortunate goalie interference penalty in Game 6 that thoroughly killed the momentum they had in the early going, bad call or not. In my opinion, it was a turning point in the series and Foligno deserved the call. You could tell by the look on his face and the mocking hands in the air as he was slightly pushed from behind.
I'm sure Senators fans will wholeheartedly disagree with me, as they spent most of their energy trashing CBC personalities and blaming the referees for everything that went wrong. Sure, some calls were brutal, but it's always been that way in the NHL. One of the first things my father taught me was that referees were a sort of sub-human species who had it out for whatever team you were cheering for. Canadian kids get taught that before they learn about Santa Claus. Not much has changed in 2012 except everyone can now go on Twitter and flamethrow everybody and everything they see.
Well, I didn't intend to let this post get so negative that quickly, but that's Stella Artois and some shattered nerves for you.
When all the crying is done, the fans should look back on this season as a major step forward for this organization and along the way, people were treated to some of the best hockey they've seen in almost five years.
The Senators happened to come up a goal short in the last game, but so have hundreds upon hundreds of other NHL teams over the years. Most of them survived.
The real focus now turns to Daniel Alfredsson and whether or not he has played in his last NHL game. My hunch is that he comes back for another season but might need a month of healing to come to that decision.
There's too many good nights ahead for this young team to willingly choose to walk away from it, but if he does, he went out as the best Senator on the ice, just like he's been most nights of his career.
Black Aces will be back after a couple days, maybe the weekend, and we'll see how the lay of the land is then.
For all my readers, thanks for another season of sticking around ... for the weird, for the mundane, for all of it.
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Thanks for posting Milks .. I think that the series was lost in the last game #6.
- April 26, 2012 at 10:48 PM
Thanks for writing these all season Jeremy, really appreciate it.
I agree with Anonymous, they needed to close out the series in game 6, but couldn't pull through.
Hell of a season though, and hopefully it's not the last for Alfie.
- April 26, 2012 at 10:54 PM
It was a good series. I agree with you about sticking with Daug. But, who knows if it affects the outcome. But, on principle they should have gone with the guys who brung'em.
I've seen most of Alfie's games as a Sen. As a fan of the team, I think he's too good to retire. Only he knows how he feels, but if players decline with age, I'm not seeing it in Alfredsson.
He's the greatest player in franchise history. He's the leader in all-time games, goals, assists, points .... basically everything.
He scored 27 goals this year mainly in a second line role with Turris. Turris is sure to get better next year.
I'd bet if Alfie returns, he gets more than 30 goals next year by playing with an improved Turris or even with Spezza. If he played with Spezza this year he'd have had more than 30 goals this year.
Too good to retire.
- April 26, 2012 at 11:06 PM
I think it was great to get silvferberg and Stone atleast a look in the playoffs. That will help them a ton motivation wise in the offseason. They now know exactly what they need to do to get a spot in the lineup. Its easy to get caught up in the playoffs- I know I was. But as far as player developement goes, this year was a wild success.
- April 27, 2012 at 10:52 AM
Hey Milks, Love this blog, and I'm now a regular visitor...
To me the better team won this series. The Rangers played their game the way they wanted, the way they have all year, and the Senators tried their best, but didn't have an answer.
This year, the Sens proved that they have the offense, and its only looking better for next season, with additional youth and skill coming into the lineup. The goaltending, while slow to start the season, was terrific down the stretch, and into the playoffs. We now need to work on our defensive play. It seemed that any team that could forecheck well would have the upper hand on this edition of the Sens. Tighten it up in our third, and we could be a real contender next year! If only October wasn't so damn far away!
- April 27, 2012 at 11:09 AM
Thanks for another good season. It's definitely one of my go-to blogs after every game. This is a Sens team that I truly adored and I wasn't quite ready to see this ride come to an end. They made great strides though and hopefully keep moving in the right direction. Thanks again.
- April 27, 2012 at 11:16 AM
Awesome reads all season long and certainly one of my go to spots for non MSM takes.
As for Foligno, not only did he take that costly penalty in Game 6, but he had horrendous turnovers that led to goals on the road in Game 1 and Game 7. I like him...sometimes. I hate him...sometimes. Curious where/what he'll be in 2-4 years.
- April 28, 2012 at 7:41 PM


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Postcard from India: Interning in New Delhi
1 March 2013
Where can media and communications studies at the University of Sydney take you?
Eleven of our intrepid students have embarked on international journalism internships after securing prestigious fellowships.
Kira Spucys-Tahar - the first Sydney student to be sent to India via the program - is working at The Indian Express in New Delhi, where she's conducting interviews, attending press conferences and exploring the city.
Since 2001 the Department of Media and Communications (MECO) in the University's Faculty of Arts and Social Sciences has offered travelling fellowships to countries in Asia.
Beginning with a week at the Australian embassy of that country and then four weeks at an English-language news organisation, it could be an overwhelming experience if not for weekends.
"I'm really lucky because it's not all work and no play," says Kira. "I get weekends off and have travelled to Agra to visit the famed Taj Mahal, and to the 'pink city' of Jaipur in Rajasthan. I've also explored the local markets and visited some of Delhi's many monuments."
The media coverage about the dangers for women travellers has definitely affected Kira's experience though. "Here in Delhi especially," she says, "there is constant news about the gang rape that occurred in December and how the authorities are trying to respond to the public outcry. I'm just trying my best to be sensible and follow the local customs as much as possible, so as not to draw undue attention to myself."
Despite this, Kira sees engagement in Southeast Asia and India as essential to Australia and the University. "The Australian government's release of the White Paper demonstrates just how vital it is for us to engage with countries in our region," she says, "and for Sydney Uni there's a great advantage in having students connect with regional issues and leading professionals. This is an important learning experience not only in terms of cultural exchange but also in terms of learning about the media practices in another country."
Kira is in her final year of a Bachelor of Arts (Media and Communications) with a double major in English and Government and International Relations, and was part of the 2012 editorial team on the University's student newspaper, Honi Soit.
"When I finish my degree ideally I would love to work as a news journalist covering politics, so this opportunity is a fantastic way for me to combine my passions," she says.
Learn more about these fellowships and the other students involved, and keep up-to-date with their adventures via the Media and Communications student blog.
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