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I have to add a fucking tag to say I'm compliant? That's insane.... Those that fuck up compliancy should be punished. Heck, no, if I specify XHTML strict, it should render strict. The doctype does say enough. Those who want to adhere to standards just say "strict" and that's it. We do not need an additional tag. The doctype is not broken as he says in the article. You fuckers broke it!
IE6's rendering behavior was not updated for five years, leading many developers to assume its rendering was both accurate and unlikely to change.
There you have it... It wasn't rendering accurately... Who's at fault, eh?
He's simply not realising that adding another tag will have the same effect as the doctype... And in 5 years will have a 4th rendering mode. Great! Long live standards, those that I can choose!
This is a misguided attempt of someone trying to keep backwards compatibility. The standards are open and published, adhere to them.
In short, there was an expectation that even under standards mode, IE would keep working the same way. Because sites expected IE6 behavior, the DOCTYPE switch failed to protect compatibility in the real world when we changed behavior under standards mode to become more compliant.
Or leave it broken for the people without a proper browser.
If it's strict, it's strict. If your browser cannot render strict properly, go and bitch to the manufacturer.
What do you want, for Microsoft to change the rendering engine out from under people?
Yes. To anyone this affects: Your website was broken in the first place. It is partly MS' fault that it was broken, but mostly yours, for not trying it out with other browsers.
Thousands of websites to stop working in that browser (the one that most people use) until the developers can fix the site?
Yes. Let them add hacks like <use-fucked-up-block-model>. Don't make the standards compliant people have to add <dont-fuck-up-my-box-model/>.
(Yes, I realize it's an HTTP header. You think that makes it better? I mean, yeah, great -- now "save as" on webpages will break them, unless they're using <http-equiv>. And yes, it's got a browser version number in there!)
It's a bad situation, and it's Microsoft's fault to begin with, but what solution would you propose that wouldn't inconvenience a lot of end users (both developers and their customers, alike)?
I wouldn't. I'd much rather have a little short-term inconvenience, if it means that in the long term, we can forget about all this. Maybe even forgive.
But no, we got the opposite -- something that works in the short term, but will come back to haunt us in the long term. I'm really not looking forward to the <no-really-I-mean-it-standards-compliant-this-time> tag with IE9 in another few years. Nor am I looking forward to IE15 unintentionally introducing a bug in the IE6 compatibility, breaking some decade-old site out of the blue -- I'd much rather it be broken now, when there's a greater chance someone's actually paying attention enough to fix it.
Well, the "problem" they're trying to solve is that IE isn't standards compliant. It was never standards compliant, so why is it suddenly a problem that needs solving? Simply, because everything else (more or less) is compliant, and they realise that IE will become increasingly irrelevant if it refuses to play nicely with the rest of the world.
So the answer as to what else could they do is simple: they could drop IE! Rename the new version to "Windows Intranet Application Host" since that's about all it's good for anyway. There's enough other browsers already, and it's likely more would be created to fill the void left by MSIE. We now have reasonably well defined standards and several implementations of interoperable browsers; we simply don't need IE8.
People could still use IE 6 or 7 for legacy web sites and internal applications until they're no longer needed, at which point they'd just die off gracefully.
Okay, maybe it's not realistic, but it would be nicer than forcing the entire internet community to endure yet another round of Microsoft's ineptitude.
I have to add a fucking tag to say I'm compliant?
No, actually you'll be adding a tag that says "This page displays properly on IE7, Firefox 2, and some other browsers I tested it with" and it'll be up to the browser to figure out how to be compliant with you. In IE's case, IE8 will see that and say "I'd better render this page like IE7 does, because it probably has IE-specific workarounds that'll render incorrectly in IE8's really-standard-compliant rendering."
When you're good and ready, and you see enough IE8 hits in your access log to make it worthwhile, you can get IE8, test your pages, and if they look good, you can update the tag. It'll be under your control when users start to see the new rendering engine in IE8; you won't have to worry about when your users decide to upgrade themselves.
This approach has some great benefits; the IE team actually can safely break compatibility with IE6 and IE7 specific websites and implement standards correctly, because those websites will continue to be rendered with the existing renderer until they explicitly say it's safe to render with IE8's renderer. If they do this well, all we web developers will need to do is remove any IE-specific workarounds if the browser is not IE6/7... IE8 will be treated like any other standards-compliant browser, with no special coding or styling.
Another great benefit for us developers is that we'll be able to change the new tag to get an IE7 rendering from IE8... no more virtual machines just to have different versions of IE on the system. (Except for IE6, but Microsoft is supposedly going to try to force most IE6 users to IE7 next month.)
I can't tell you how much time I've wasted over the past few years trying to get standards compliant pages to look right in IE6 and IE7. I'll be very happy to be able to have my Apache server insert a response header that says "This page is for IE7; deal with it" and not have to worry that my application is going to break when people start to upgrade to IE8 in-between my releases.
The comments on the blog to the tone of "break the web" are amusing. I'd like to see the face of a CIO when his architect tells him that the corporate-wide upgrade to IE8 broke half the apps on the intranet because, you know, some technorati bloggers with snazzy-looking web sites signed the W3C suicide pact and wanted everyone to do the same.
Or, use Firefox and convince everyone to do as well. That's what I've been doing lately. Maybe IE8 will pull me back, but IE7 sure has heck didn't.
Do you want to add a single tag that all other browsers will ignore, or do you want to spend all your time hacking workarounds?
How about option 3: Code to the standards, and ignore specific browsers. Obviously, you want to test it in other browsers to expose flaws in your own code/assumptions, but if a browser doesn't work due to actually being non-standard, I want that to be Not My Problem.
I've spent enough of my life hacking workarounds around Microsoft crap. How about they work around the standard for a change?
I ask because Microsoft is not about to drop compatibility with billions of pages that unfortunately rely on IE6-specific shortcomings and rendering quirks.
They already did, to some extent, with IE7.
Keep in mind, these billions of pages were already broken. They should not have been compatible with anything. Microsoft dropping compatibility for them would actually be a healthy thing, compared with, say, some of the things they broke with Vista.I'd like to see the face of a CIO when his architect tells him that the corporate-wide upgrade to IE8 broke half the apps on the intranet because, you know,
Because, you know, he was a moron who didn't test those apps on IE8 before rolling it out. Didn't know about WSUS, you know. Can I have his job when he's fired for incompetence?
Again: Same thing happened with IE7. Same kind of complaints, same intranets keeping everyone on IE6 for awhile.
The only reason you mention this is the same reason it's not a problem: On intranets, apps tend to be more tied to a single browser, because you can mandate that browser. Because the alternative was even worse -- mandating the install of some custom client-side app, maybe some Visual Basic + Access crap. This same freedom that lets intranet sites be lazy with respect to the standards also allows them to delay IE8 as long as they want -- or, yeah, use Firefox.
I know that was a joke, but the answer is no, it uses a standard HTML tag.
Which is used to add a non-standard HTTP header, "X-UA-Compatible". Standard HTML, non-standard HTTP.
Which leads to the great possibility of a webpage looking different on the local computer compared to the server it was originally downloaded from...
to be standards compliant, web pages have to incorporate a non-standard tag?
You don't have to include the tag. You can use a server-side user-agent browser sniffing check to see whether or not to include the IE-specific meta tag hack!
Of course, the really funny part is that the whole reason they're doing this is that too many people misused the DOCTYPE declaration in the first place -- declaring that their pages should use Strict rendering when in fact they used the old IE6 hacks. So who wants to bet that MS will need to introduce another browser hack for IE9 because too many we
Hey don't leave a dangerous tag like that open.</render-like-IE6>
I'm just glad that they actually recognise real HTTP headers. I've complained in the past [msdn.com] about the fact that Microsoft seemingly ignores the fact that http-equiv is only a poor workaround for web developers that can't transmit headers properly, and real HTTP headers are the proper way of doing it.
I'm happy they incorporated this mechanism instead of further extending doctype switching, which was just a poor hack that has caused all sorts of problems in the years since it was first introduced. I sugge [msdn.com]
However, in order to take advantage of the improved standards compliance in IE8, Web developers will have to opt-in by adding an additional meta tag to their web pages. This improved standards mode is the same that was recently reported to pass the Acid 2 test, as was discussed here.
So how could IE8 possibly have passed the Acid2 test? The test page doesn't contain the magic META tag that IE needs to pass the test!
Then it works perfectly, it's all explained in the name of the test
For a good long while, Microsoft's official solution to the "things render correct in other browsers but not in IE" has been to use conditional comments. While still a bigger pain in the ass than it should be, using conditional comments has allowed a fair deal of flexibility, even with the release of IE7 - specify a separate stylesheet containing styling fixes for IE6 and below, then a stylesheet just for IE7, and then don't worry about it. Doing this saved me from having to commit cryptic, hacky work-aroun
I like to think of the different modes as:
Browser makers could do a lot of good for standards compliance if they would warn the user (unobnoxiously, of course) when he/she is visiting a web page containing invalid HTML code. You wouldn't purchase from a web site that doesn't cause the little lock icon to show up on your browser, so would you also think twice if you knew the company didn't care enough to produce standards-compliant HTML code?
Since the web browser is used as a development tool, it should alert the developer of any syntax errors instead of attempting to silently recover from them.
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Lady Chucks celebrate soccer's season strides
PUNXSUTAWNEY — District and state championships teams are developed and built over years of work. The Punxsy girls' soccer team took big strides in the development toward this championship level this fall.
The Lady Chucks celebrated their hard work and honored the team's senior athletes and Most Valuable Player in their Thursday night season banquet held at the Chestnut Grove Independent Church.
"From where you started this season until where you finished, you would not believe the strides you made as a team," opened Punxsy coach Kevin Hughes during the honors and awards part of the night.
After having a tough 0-18 campaign in 2011, Punxsy made great strides this fall. The Lady Chucks finished 5-12 and improved to fourth of the six teams in the Upper Allegany Valley Soccer League Central Division.
The Punxsy girls' soccer team's big season award, Most Valuable Player, was award to goal keeper Allison Fye.
"Alli made saves all year that someone with her experience just should not have been able to make," pointed out Hughes. "She should not have had to face as many shots as she did, but to only allow the number of goals she did was just outstanding."
Over the team's 17 games, the sophomore faced 197 shots and allowed 39 goals. She posted a 2.29 goals against average and recorded an .810 save percentage.
The Lady Chucks had two players, senior Sydney Dubensky and junior Emily Horner, tie for the top season scoring honors. Both Punxsy players finished the year with five goals and four assists for the year.
Coach Hughes also honored his four senior players, Dubensky, Ashley Bacha, Karah Hollis and Tiffany Huffman.
"The team will truly miss not only what you four seniors brought to the field, but your leadership for the team," added Hughes.
Individually, the Punxsy coach singled out each senior — Dubensky for being one of the most positive people he has ever met, Bacha for her strong leg and defense, Hollis for being able to adapt to anything and Huffman for being so easy going and always handling the other team's best offensive attacks.

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Sunday, October 24, 2010
The Great Car Debate
It's not exactly news (if it is, where you have been?) that I've made a conscious decision to purchase a vehicle. I'll be completely honest, though; CicLAvia totally distracted me a positive way. I have never felt more inspired to keep with my bicycle. It's realizing that public transportation has a fondness for 'indirect routes' that has me moving forward on the issue, this issue I'd dropped for the last couple of weeks.
Most all of us understand why routes are the way they are - they are to service the cities in which they run. And when serving the greater Los Angeles, you're going to take 'everyone's route' in the hopes that you'll get where you need to go out of it. Think about it: short-distance routes depend entirely on the number of stops, the length of time to transfer, and the walk, if any. 'Long-distance' routes - say, those that would fare better by use of the freeway - still get you where you need to go, but since it's a local bus, it's going to stay local and not express your ass where it needs to go (even if it is an express). Public transportation is a public experience, so a detour in the form of getting where you need to go isn't going to happen. Obviously.
In the last few years I've managed to lead a very centralized existence with work and school. This year, central is no longer an option, and it's been great. Granted, the time it takes to get where I need to go is a built-in opportunity to proofread work, edit, read, and return calls. But when it really comes down to it, I would save so much time with a car. Unless there's traffic, but you get the point. Anyone who knows me knows my love of Google Maps for having the best cycling and public transportation routes (and for being more accurate than Metro.net), but it's its 'driving directions' function in comparison that makes me bite my lip in contemplation.
If anything, the experience has shown me that Los Angeles is super friggin' connected despite its widely spread layout. I'm amazed at times at how many ways there are around this place. In the end, however, accessibility is the key point here - I prefer being an accessible individual and my surroundings being accessible to me. While the latter can also refer to being exposed to the elements - a factor of the bicycle I rather enjoy - it's something that can still be experienced in conjunction with a vehicle.
Did I mention how much I appreciate the hammering out of details in text?
So I'm back on the hunt, hopefully to be with car sooner than I'm projecting (a month, at the least). Look out car dealers... I'll be invading your property with my good credit sometime after I roam the streets of West Hollywood this Halloween.
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Before you decide, check out this website (it'll help you calculate how much the car you choose will actually cost you).ReplyDelete
First of all, you are definitely a transportation wonk and it's nice to see that someone else gives public transportation as much thought as I do. Whenever we visit another city we use public transit (and bikes and walking) almost exclusively. It give me the feeling of being part of a community, even if for just a short while.ReplyDelete
We have a car, a Honda Element actually. In a town at 7000 ft elevation where it snows (last year quite heavily) your really need something that will get you safely from A to B when the snow plows just can't keep up. Also, there is just no way to get to the Nordic Center by bike for skiing that time of year and still have energy for cross country. Transporting skis is not impossible by bike but if the goal is skiing and I'm riding my bike most of the time when the streets are clear I can't feel guilty.
Prior to going down to one car, we owned a 2000 VW Beetle. I can't say enough good things about the VW Beetle. It's just enough car for someone who'd rather not be in a car and people are almost always nicer to you in a Beetle. So many people's "firsts" happened in a Beetle. First car, first date, first kiss, first road trip . . . .
My husband almost purchased a Mini Cooper a few months before he settle on the Element. We weren't married at the time and I would have been fine with the Mini but I knew it was really a emotional pull because he was unhappy at work and wanted to move back out west. The Element is great. If you have to haul skis or bikes or dogs or bags of mulch you just can't beat the Element. I literally mop out when it gets too filthy and you can fill an air matress and take it camping on the North Rim if you just need to get closer to nature.
Finally, I am obsessively drawn to the Smart Car. I'm attracted to their very tiny size. I first saw them in Vienna (they were everywhere!) parked perpendicular to the curb on very narrow streets. I love the idea of not taking up more space than one needs. I dream of one day moving into 800 - 1000 ft of residential space. Initially, Bob thought this was a crazy idea but as he's realized we only use that much space of our house he agrees that all we need next time around.


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- Premier League
Shanghai shocked by Drogba move
Didier Drogba's move to Galatasaray has been thrown into doubt with Shanghai Shenhua insisting the striker is still contracted to them.
Galatasaray announced the signing of Drogba on Monday in a €6 million deal on a contract until the summer of 2014. But now the Chinese club look set to challenge the transfer.
A statement released on Shenhua's official website read: "The club is deeply shocked. Drogba is still a Shanghai Shenhua Football Club member as the contract between the two parties is still within its period of validity.
"The Shanghai Shenhua Football Club is ready to gather evidence and submit the findings to FIFA in order to protect its interests."
Drogba joined the club following Chelsea's Champions League success last season but his reported wage of £200,000-a-week was said to have been causing Shenhua financial problems. Nicolas Anelka also left the club last week, joining Serie A side Juventus on loan.


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SALT LAKE CITY (AP) Al Jefferson scored 24 points, Gordon Hayward added 17 in his return from a shoulder injury and the Utah Jazz defeated Golden State 115-101 Tuesday night to extend the Warriors' losing streak to six games.
Seven Jazz players scored in double figures and Utah got 47 points from its reserves.
The Jazz made 10 of 21 3-pointers, including three by Randy Foye.
Stephen Curry led Golden State with 29 points, Jarrett Jack had 19 off the bench and David Lee contributed 18 on 9-of-13 shooting.
Lee's runner and Curry's fourth 3-pointer pulled the Warriors within 93-87 with 9:47 remaining.
That's as close as they would get.
Paul Millsap's turnaround jumper ignited a 6-0 Utah run and the Jazz held the Warriors to 30 percent shooting in the fourth.
The Warriors were within one point in the third several times, including 66-65 after Curry's third 3-pointer.
Utah countered with a 15-4 run, with 3-pointers by Foye and Marvin Williams and nine more points for Jefferson, who had a dunk and three-point play in five minutes to bump Utah's lead to 81-69 with 3:36 left.
Jack's 9-foot runner with 2.6 seconds left in the fourth pulled Golden State within 87-79.
Utah led by as many as 12 in the second quarter only to see Golden State rip off an 8-0 run, with a pair of 3-pointers by Curry sandwiched around two more shots by Jack, who opened 5 of 5.
Utah countered with its own 8-2 run, with 3-pointers by Hayward and Foye giving Utah a 50-40 advantage.
The Warriors closed the half on a 13-8 run, shooting 67 percent in the quarter to get within 58-53 at the break.
The Jazz led 26-19 after one despite shooting just 36.4 percent. It helped that they got to the free throw line 10 times and made eight.
They shot 33 free throws overall, making 27, compared to 18 of 24 for the Warriors.
Utah led 19-9 seven minutes in as Golden State opened 4 of 13.
The Jazz second unit, led by Hayward, kept it going. He checked into the game with 4:35 remaining in the quarter to loud applause after missing the last 10 games because of a sprained right shoulder.
Two minutes later, he drove the lane and took a shot to the same shoulder by Andris Biedrins. Hayward sank both free throws for a 23-13 Utah lead.
Jack pulled Golden State within 26-19 after the first after hitting 3 of 3 shots off the bench.


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NASHUA -- Bishop Guertin ran into an aggressive Keene High defense Saturday night, falling to the visiting Blackbirds, 20-7, in a N.H. Div. 2 football game at Stellos Stadium.
Bishop Guertin (5-3, 5-2 Div. 2) was never able to find a groove offensively against Keene (5-2 Div. 2), and was burned by big plays in the first half when Keene's three touchdowns all came on plays of 15 yards or longer.
Bishop Guertin ran the ball 49 times, led by junior Clyde Boykin's 78 yards on 13 carries, and passed it only 14 times.
Boykin scored Bishop Guertin's lone touchdown in the second quarter on a halfback draw play. Nick Marino also had another solid game rushing the ball, gaining 68 yards on 14 carries.
The game was still up for grabs with 4:48 left in the fourth quarter. With Keene up 20-7, the Cardinals had first down at the Keene 5-yard line. On first down, senior Blake Boudreau gained one yard on a plunge. Hurley was then sacked on second down as he attempted to roll-out and find Boykin in the back of the endzone. On third down, Marino bulled ahead just short of the goal line. The dramatic fourth down would prove futile and would characterize Guertin's night, as Marino was held up at the goal line.


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Slumping Lightning Fire Coach Boucher
The slumping Tampa Bay Lightning have fired third-year coach Guy Boucher after tumbling to next to last place in the Eastern Conference, the team said on Sunday.
Only the cellar-dwelling Florida Panthers have a worse conference record than the Lightning (13-17-1), who started the strike shortened season 6-1 but have lost six of their past 10 games.
"Guy has poured his heart and soul into the Lightning organization for these past three years and we appreciate all the work he has done," team general manager Steve Yzerman said in a statement.
"But ultimately I am not satisfied with the direction we are heading and I believe making a change today is in the best interest of our franchise."
Assistant coaches Martin Raymond and Dan Lacroix were scheduled to share coaching duties in the Lightning's game against the Winnipeg Jets later on Sunday.
Boucher, 41, compiled a 97-78-20 record with the Lightning. His best finish came in his first season (2010-11) when Tampa Bay went 46-25-11 to place second in the Southeast Division before losing to Boston in the conference finals.


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LEXINGTON, Ky. (WKYT) - A community-wide effort is underway to boost children's literacy in Fayette County, and you can help.
Members of Leadership Lexington are teaming up with several agencies in town for the Once Upon a Story book drive. Saturday, from 9 a.m. to 5 p.m., volunteers will be at the Nicholasville Road Walmart to collect books. The goal is to give a new book to thousands of children.
"It's really important to foster love for books for children at a young age. Nationally, we have children entering high school at a third grade reading level and so our big drive is to get these books in the hands of the children so they can start at a young age and take it upon themselves. If you have a book, and you have the education, you can have the power to drive yourself to be whatever you want to be," explained Leadership Lexington volunteer Whitney Glass.
If you miss Saturday's book drive, you can take donations to any Lexington Fire Department now through April 15th.


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OH pays more than $58 million in veterans bonuses
- Written by THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
YOUNGSTOWN, Ohio (AP) — The state of Ohio has paid out more than $58.7 million to around 70,000 military veterans who have served in recent overseas conflicts.
The bonuses came thanks to a state constitutional amendment in 2009 allowing the state to borrow up to $200 million to pay bonuses to Ohio veterans who served in the Persian Gulf, Afghanistan and Iraq.
The Ohio Department of Veterans Services provided the updated numbers on Monday while urging veterans to take advantage of the payouts before the deadlines, according The (Youngstown) Vindicator (http://bit.ly/17JecCA).
Persian Gulf War-era veterans have until Dec. 31 to apply. Veterans who served during the most recent Iraqi conflict have until the end of 2014 to apply. There has been no deadline set yet for those who served in Afghanistan.


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NEW YORK (MarketWatch) — U.S. stock futures held slight gains on Friday after the Labor Department reported the U.S. economy created 155,000 jobs in December and the unemployment rate stood at 7.8%.
Economists polled by MarketWatch expected an increase of 160,000 jobs.
November's unemployment rate, originally reported as 7.7%, was changed to 7.8% after the annual revisions conducted each December.
Up 2 points before the jobs report, futures on the Dow Jones Industrial Average US:DJH3 were lately up 8 points to 13,327.
S&P 500 Index futures US:SPH3 gained 1.90 points to 1,455.5 and Nasdaq 100 futures US:NDH3 added 3.25 points to 2,728.7.
The December jobs report comes a day after minutes from the Federal Reserve's latest policy meeting showed officials hope to end bond purchases in 2013.
The minutes showed several central bankers see either a slowdown or an outright end to the Fed's bond-buying program, known in market jargon as QE3, before the end of 2013. See: Fed sees bond buying ending this year.
"The level of support provided through QE3 is the equivalent of life support for the market, and with the market dependent on this support continuing, any steps indicating that the machine will be turned off is bad news for investors," said Rebecca O'Keeffe, head of investment at Interactive Investor in London. See Need to Know: 6 gut checks before the stock market's opening bell.
But the end of QE3 wouldn't be completely negative, wrote analysts at futures broker R.J. O'Brien in Chicago.
While Treasury and mortgage rates would rise and the end of a Fed-provided liquidity injection into the banking system would be "a bit bearish for stocks and commodities," the silver lining "to the end of QE3 would be that the Fed would be expressing confidence that the U.S. economy and financial system can stand on its own without QE."
In the commodities markets, the news that quantitative easing may end this year hit gold futures hard, since the precious metal has been a big beneficiary of QE. The February gold contract US:GCG3 slumped $31.60 to $1,643 an ounce in electronic trading. See: Gold and silver futures tumble after Fed minutes.
The dollar index DXY, +0.51% a measure of the U.S. currency's performance against a basket of major rivals, rose 0.4% to 80.677. See: Dollar climbs ahead of jobs data; yen slumps.
In other economic news, the Institute for Supply Management will release its services-sector index for December at 10 a.m., and the Commerce Department will report factory-orders data for November.
In the afternoon, three Fed speakers, including Vice Chair Janet Yellen, will address a San Diego economics conference. Yellen's speech will be on financial system interconnectedness.
Sonic Corp. SONC, +0.16% shares will be in focus on Friday. Late on Thursday, the Oklahoma City operator of drive- through restaurants reported fiscal first-quarter profit of 11 cents a share on revenue of $126 million. The latest results matched the consensus estimates of analysts surveyed by FactSet.
Sonic shares fell 2.8% in pre-market trading.
Progress Software Corp. PRGS, -1.83% shares lost 4.3% pre-market. After the market closed on Thursday, the Bedford, Mass., software producer reported fiscal-fourth-quarter profit of 57 cents a share, or an adjusted 42 cents.
Adjusted earnings from continuing operations were 23 cents. Revenue was $91.3 million. FactSet's survey was looking for 34 cents of profit on $109.4 million of revenue.


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FLORHAM PARK, N.J. -- Mark Sanchez still believes.
He believes in himself, in his abilities as a quarterback and in the Jets. He also believes he'll be back with the team in 2013.
"I just had a good talk with Rex [Ryan], and I know we're destined for great stuff here," Sanchez said at the team's facility Monday. "I know we can be successful here. That's what I'm focused on. I'm excited to come back next year and do my very best."
That's a long, steep hill for the 26-year-old quarterback, who took a week off and returned Sunday to the same ugly place he'd been for most of the season. Sanchez threw an interception, lost a fumble and failed to get the Jets into the end zone in a 28-9 loss to the Bills.
Ryan's return next season might help Sanchez, who was Ryan's big, bold statement during the first draft of the coach's tenure. But general manager Mike Tannenbaum, who oversaw trading up to the No. 5 spot to draft Sanchez in 2009, was fired Monday. The next GM might want to start searching for a more reliable quarterback.
Tony Sparano, the second offensive coordinator of Sanchez's four-year career, is likely to be let go, setting the stage for a new offense to be installed. Sanchez never adjusted to Sparano's offense. He finished with 18 interceptions, tied for second in the NFL, despite having nearly 200 fewer passing attempts than the quarterbacks ahead of him (Tony Romo and Drew Brees).
"There are some situations where I need to play better," Sanchez said. "There are some great plays and some great throws and then there were some not so good things. Those are the things I need to focus on this offseason and try and fix those and put us in a better position to take care of the football.
"It just wasn't my best. That's unfortunate because you don't want to let any of these other guys down. I have some stuff to prove and I know I can do it."
It remains to be seen whether the rest of the Jets think the same way.
"I think he just has to focus on football, man," Darrelle Revis said of Sanchez. "Don't get into the he-say / she-say and listening to outsiders and other things. It's all about being focused and playing what you love. This game is no different than when we played it when we were 7 years old. Just be positive and focus on football."
Sanchez might be able to do that better with Tim Tebow off the roster, which is expected to happen this offseason. Tebow declined to speak with reporters Monday, but Sanchez doesn't blame the fanfare of Tebow's arrival for his failures.
"I'm not going to make any excuses about anything like that," Sanchez said. "He worked his butt off while he was here and he tried to come in and help this team. That's all I'm going to say about that. He's a good teammate."


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New Apartment 5' Ipanema & Leblon Beach
Size100 m²
Floor No.4(with elevator)
- Family/child friendly
- Kitchen
- Air conditioning
- Washer/dryer
- Elevator in building
- Internet/WiFi
- Towels
Accommodation summary
Apartment in the good location in Ipanema, Avenue Visconde de Pirajá , only one block the beach. This wonderful apartment has 2 bedrooms + 2 bathrooms + 1 bathroom service. The first bedroom has a double bed which can sleep two people, in the second bedroom can sleep more two people because there is a two single beds. In the living room you will find a comfortable sofa, one table with chairs and the american style kitchen. This apartment is very comfortable and has a good entrance of the air and of the sun.
Here you will be close to the many restaurants, bars, cafes, supermarkets, shopping centres, cinemas but the main you will be next to the Ipanema Beach.
Ipanema is a neighborhood located in the southern region of the city of Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, between Leblon and Arpoador. The beach at Ipanema became widely known by the song "The Girl from Ipanema" ("Garota de Ipanema"), written by Antonio Carlos Jobim and Vinícius de Moraes.
The beach is divided by Postos. So, you will find all type of people as you go through the postos. You may certainly find your niche in one of them. The part closer to the Arpoador beach is great for surfing. You will find beach soccer, beach volley and many other sports there. If you want to play while there, just tell the guys you want to play next (say it in Portuguese "Próximo"), they are very friendly. This beach is also safer than Copacabana and very close to Copacabana.
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If there were a rating higher than 5, that is what I would rate this apartment. I stayed here 6/5-6/11/2014, the week before the world cup. The apartment is in a building with doorman controlled access 24 hours a day. It is spacious, well laid out with high ceilings. The furniture is simple and functional. Copacabana beach is one half block away. ESPN and other networks were setting up there studios on this part of the beach I assume because the views are the best they found in Rio de Janiero. There is a bakery immediately across the street from the building. The subway entrance is a short 5 minute walk from the apartment. I traveled with my parents, wife and daughter. The experience was better than all of us had hoped for. The next time we are in Rio, we will make every effort to stay here again.
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|6 years ago :: Mar 05, 2012 - 6:23PM #1
Saving the Earth, One Fraud at a Time
The latest embarrassment for global warming activists
The latest embarrassment for global-warming activists came on Feb. 20 after Peter Gleick, founder of the Pacific Institute for Studies in Development, Environment and Security in Oakland, admitted that he committed fraud to obtain documents he thought would embarrass a conservative think tank that has been a leading debunker of some of the overheated claims of the climate-change Chicken Littles.
The memos, which reveal the group's political and fund-raising strategies, provided little to embarrass the Chicago-based Heartland Institute, but it has damaged the reputation of a man who was a respected intellectual in the environmental world. Gleick, a MacArthur Foundation "genius" fellow, doesn't seem brilliant now, as he takes a leave of absence from the institute, faces public embarrassment and possible prosecution. (Heartland claims that one memo was fabricated, although Gleick denies that charge, but the scandal could get uglier.)
But even after Gleick admitted and apologized for his action, Los Angeles Times columnist Michael Hiltzik defended him: "It's a sign of the emotions wrapped up in the global warming debate that Gleick should be apologizing for his actions today while the Heartland Institute stakes out the moral high ground." (moral high ground!? LOL....liberals and moral high ground, keep reading)
"Peter Gleick lied, but was it justified by the wider good?" asked James Garvey of the British Guardian newspaper. He compared Gleick's action to that of a man who lied to keep his friend from driving home drunk. "What Heartland is doing is harmful, because it gets in the way of public consensus and action," he argued. "If his lie has good effects overall—if those who take Heartland's money to push skepticism are dismissed as shills, if donors pull funding after being exposed in the press—then perhaps on balance he did the right thing. … It depends on how this plays out."
Come my leftist friends. Defend this driviel.
Or better yet, go ahead admit that in your world the ends justify the means. Truth be damned.
Read the last line above again:
It depends on how this plays out."
You guys are rotten to the core. Yeah, there is a lot of crap from "conservatives" but it doesnt come out in spades and so blatantly false, hypocritical and deceptive.
Any man can count the seeds in an apple....
.......but only God can count the apples in the seeds.
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|6 years ago :: Mar 05, 2012 - 7:30PM #2
Yep .. and it is just the "latest" scandal from these frauds.
First we had Climategate I ... an emal cache showing collusion to push forward an agenda.
This was followed by Climategate II, which show the leading IPCC scientists were:
" ....an organized conspiracy dedicated to tricking the world into believing that global warming is a crisis that requires a drastic response," said Myron Ebell, Director of the Competitive Enterprise Institute's Center on Energy and Environment. "Several of the new e-mails show that the scientists involved in doctoring the IPCC reports are very aware that the energy-rationing policies that their junk science is meant to support would cost trillions of dollars."
After two embarrassing moments, and a decline in the public opinion regarding their pet issue, the warmista decided to play tit-for-tat ... only problem was, the "skeptic" crowd is completel above reproach ... and thus .... "fabricate it".
BUT .. alas. It will make no difference. Obama's EPA under Jackson will make no changes, because this is political, not scientific, and politics is not predecated on facts and truth, but lies, deception, and control.
Don't expect any apologies or condemnation from the Leftists Doctrinaires. As you've already noted .. the completely agree with fraud if it is consistent with what the envision to be "good" for the whole .. be it fact or fiction.
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|6 years ago :: Mar 07, 2012 - 7:21PM #3
That's right ...
"Global Climate Change" ... ??? Big Deal ...
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|6 years ago :: Mar 14, 2012 - 8:02AM #4
This evening I attended a talk by Ian Fry, International Environmental Officer for the Government of Tuvalu. That country and Kiribati, expect to be obliterated by antrhropogenic global warming! Unfortunately, he pointed out, the United States, which had lost its democracy, was owned by corporations.
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|6 years ago :: Mar 14, 2012 - 8:15AM #5
The science is sound.
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Popular magazines often fill space with little blurbs about what books are on prominent peoples' nightstands, giving us a glimpse into their world as human beings with curiosities and interests outside of their own celebrity. While I do not presume that my own book choices would attract similar attention, my nightstand currently holds quite a variety that might be of interest to someone:
Hassman, Tupelo Girlchild (fiction) - Rory Dawn Hendrix, growing up in a trailer park in Reno, Nevada, is determind to defy the odds of her environment and family history.
Keaton, Diane Then Again (memoir) - Keaton's own stories alternate with excerpts from journals kept by her mother, Dorothy Keaton Hall. Poignant account of an interesting life.
Green, John The Fault in Our Stars (young adult fiction) - Combine this popular young adult author with a love story about teenagers with cancer, and you get a fast-moving and powerful narrative that goes beyond the surface.
Cain, Susan Quiet: The power of introverts in a world that can't stop talking (nonfiction) - I have not read this one yet, but am looking forward to it, especially after seeing Cain's TED presentation.
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So, I was reading this article about the rising sea level, and it says that the annual rate of sea level change is .13 in a year! Which would be 4-8 in every 20 years. Within the past century, burning of fossil fuels and other natural activities have released heat-trapping gases into the atmosphere. Which has caused the Earth's surface temp to rise and oceans absorbing 80% of this additional heat.
These factors are causing the sea level to rise massively. Inland it can cause erosion, flooding of wetlands, contamination of aquifers & agricultural soils, loss of habitat for fish, birds, and plants. It can also cause larger storm systems to be more destructive. A recent study says that we can expect to see the ocean rise between 2.5ft and 6.5ft by 2100 ans will swamp most of the U.S. East Coast cities. And if there was a complete meltdown of the Greenland ice cap the sea level would rise to 23 feet. Which would be enough water to completely submerge London and Los Angeles.
*did you know there is enough water in the East Antarctic ice sheet to drastically change sea levels by 164 feet.
I think there is pretty much no way of stopping the sea level because of global warming, do you think we could take precautions and try to help slow the rising down?
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Sis. Teresie Lee, age 74, passed away Sunday, January 20, 2013 at Hurley Medical Center. Family hour 10 a.m. Saturday, January 26, 2013 at First Union Baptist Church, 7004 Fleming Rd., with funeral service commencing at 11 a.m. Pastor Archie Powell, Jr., officiating. Interment Gracelawn Community Cemetery, 5710 N. Saginaw St. Friends and pallbearers will assemble at the church 10 a.m. Saturday. Sis. Lee will lie in state in the Chapel of Lawrence E. Moon Funeral Home, 906 W. Flint Park Blvd., and may be viewed from 12 noon-8 p.m. Friday. Sis. Teresie Lee was born August 25, 1938 in West Point, Mississippi, to the union of Jollie and Sidney Carson. Teresie was baptized at an early age. She was a member of First Union Baptist Church, where she served on the Usher Board and was a faithful member of the Kitchen Committee. Teresie retired from Fisher Body and Delphi a division of General Motors after 28 years of service and was a member of UAW Local 651. She loved her entire family and enjoyed being a mother, grandmother and great-grandmother. Teresie will surely be missed. She leaves to cherish her memories: 2 sons, Eddie (Alberta) Fitzpatrick and Ray (Lanea) Lee; 2 daughters, Janice Fitzpatrick and Lashawn (Ronald) Deloney; 10 grandchildren, Destiny, Amber, Reshia, April, Ralania, Ray II, Martez, Antoine, 'Eveon and Gage; 8 great-grandchildren, Ray III, Rashelle, Lauryn, Layla, Zakeer, A'Zaria, Zaira and Zion; father, Deacon Jasper Fitzpatrick; 3 sisters, Carolyn Whaley of Detroit, MI, Birbia Hall of Greenwood, MS; brother, Leno Hall of Mantee, MS; aunt, Leola Williams; special niece, Salena Hall; a host of other relatives and friends including the First Union Baptist Church Kitchen Committee. Sis Lee was preceded in death by her husband, David L. Lee; mother, Sidney Fitzpatrick; 2 brothers, Chandler and Charlie Hall; and sister, Ola Lee Hall.
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Penn State's Security and Risk Analysis major will be featured as part of today's (Feb. 28) final episode of the Big Ten Network's (BTN) "Impact the World" series. The episode will air at 10:30 p.m. on BTN and will explore ground-breaking safety developments from Penn State, the University of Iowa and the University of Minnesota.
To watch a short preview of the entire show, click here.
-- Penn State: With greater emphasis placed on security, universities across the nation have seen information sciences and technology majors grow in scope to include all levels of security. However, perhaps no program is more relevant than Penn State's Security and Risk Analysis (SRA) major. The program teaches students how to design secure systems and solve real-world problems, including terrorism, fraud and security risks. One key component of the program's success is Professor Colonel Jake Graham, who encourages students to re-enact real world events in the program's Extreme Events Lab for tangible results. In this episode, the network examines why Penn State SRA majors are among the most desirable job candidates in their designated field. To watch a short video preview, click here.
-- Iowa: The life of a soldier is fraught with challenges, but what if soldiers knew how they could respond to certain elements before setting foot on the battle field? A team of biomedical engineers at the University of Iowa Virtual Soldier Research program are collaborating to provide soldiers those answers with help from Santos, the virtual solider. The computerized avatar is an exact duplicate of the human skeletal and muscular systems, and can react with different senses, including smell, sight and touch on command. The program's ultimate goal is to improve safety for soldiers in war zones by demonstrating how much equipment soldiers can carry on a mission without compromising their safety. To watch a short video preview, click here.
-- Minnesota: Robots are no longer the stuff of science fiction. In fact, at the University of Minnesota's Center for Distributed Robotics, Dr. Nikos Papanikolopoulos and his graduate students are changing the way swat teams and military do reconnaissance. Their mission is to save lives on the front lines and they are having greater success -- thanks to the help of a little robot called Scout. The United States military, police and SWAT teams use the Scout robot as a safety precaution to survey risk areas ahead of troops. Each robot is operated by a remote control device and equipped with a camera that feeds visuals back to the command center. To watch a short video preview, click here.


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Urban Sonic Space Ride: 1st Night
Urban Sonic Space Ride: 1st Night
Location: Tompkins Square Park
Two shows by popular demand!
Come celebrate the 40th anniversary of the release of pioneering space rockers Hawkwind's "Space Ritual" double live album as we recreate the concert experience by bike!
Recorded shortly after the last manned Apollo Mission to the Moon in December 1972, this music will give us many cosmic opportunities to view stars, planets, and the skyline of NYC like never before.
Friday 5/10/2013 8PM Tonpkins Square Park, Manhattan
A brief history of Hawkwind:
An English band formed in 1969, whose lyrics favor urban and science fiction themes, Hawkwind are also a noted precursor to punk rock and now are considered a link between the hippie and punk cultures.
Hawkwind have gone through many incarnations and styles of music as well as dozens of musicians over the decades. Their trademark sound is described as "that gargantuan and impenetrable pre-metal/hardcore drone, those great riffs, that inexorable drive to destinations unknown."
Known as a "people's band", at the Isle of Wight Festival in 1970, attended by 700,000 people and headlined by Jimi Hendrix, The Who, The Doors, Jethro Tull, and ELP among many others, Hawkwind instead played for free just outside the festival's fences in "Canvas City", and later headlined the Glastonbury (1971), Windsor (1972–4) and Stonehenge (1974) Free Festivals (precursors to Burning Man) for years to come.
An unforgettable urban sonic experience, sure to take you out of this world!
Rain date: Saturday, May 11th, 2013
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The Ravens have officially announced their full list of undrafted free agent signings, which includes 20 players. It became official when these rookies passed physicals and signed contracts with the team.
Two weeks ago, my colleague Jeff Zrebiec compiled a list of the undrafted rookies who were expected to sign with the Ravens along with background info on each. You can find those blurbs here and here.
The following is the full list of the team's undrafted free agent signings. If there are discrepancies between his list and the official list, it's because players failed physicals, their deals fell through or they are in for tryouts.
--- QB John Brantley (Florida)
--- RB Brandon Pendergrass (Wake Forest)
--- RB Bobby Rainey (Western Kentucky)
--- FB David Diehl (Clemson)
--- FB Jamison Berryhill (Texas)
--- TE Nick Provo (Syracuse)
--- WR Deonte Thompson (Florida)
--- WR Devin Goda (Slippery Rock)
--- WR Dorian Graham (Syracuse)
--- OG Antoine McClain (Clemson)
--- OG-OT Jack Cornell (Illinois)
--- OL Addison Lawrence (Mississippi State)
--- NT Nicholas Jean-Baptise (Baylor)
--- NT Ishmaaily Kitchen (Kent State)
--- DT-DE Elliott Henigan (Alabama Birmingham)
--- DE Terrence Moore (Nebraska)
--- LB Eltoro Freeman (Auburn)
--- DB Charles Brown (North Carolina)
--- DB Omar Brown (Marshall)--- S Chyl Quarles (Wake Forest)


text: This special concert celebrating Earth Day begins with Real Time Jazz Band, under the leadership of Mark Bonifacio. Real Time Jazz is a celebrated new quintet that performs easy-to-remember original melodies by contemporary jazz musicians, with drums, sax, piano, guitar and bass. Real Time plays jazz for the 21st Century. Following Real Time Jazz Band is the eminent Indie Jazz Afro Groove Vocalist/Songwriter Pyeng Threadgill and Band, performing her Songlines Project in honor of Earth Day 2013, and music by Chaka Khan and Joni Mitchell. (Pyeng is the daughter of jazz sax legend Henry Threadgill and Urban Bush Women dancer/choreographer Christina Jones.) Special guest musician Morley performs her soul/funk brand of music. And cultural historian, poet, spoken word artist hattie gossett brings forth words&words&words for the page & the stage & the e-screen & the disc. Hattie is the author of presenting sister noblues (firebrand) and the immigrant suite: hey xenophobe! Who you calling a foreigner? (7 stories press). Hattie is celebrating her 71st year. Beginning the kickoff to her Pledge Music fundraiser to complete her fourth album Songlines, Pyeng Threadgill is joined by Justin Purtill (electric guitar), Ben Wright (electric bass) and Kassa Overall (drums). Pyeng is a 2008 recipient of the New York Foundation for The Arts fellowship in music composition and has headlined at the Charlie Parker Jazz Festival, ISIM (International Society for Improvised Music) Conference at William Patterson College, Yoshi's, Hudson Opera House, Rockwood Music Hall and more. Canned food donations can be made to City Harvest at the door.


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July 15, 2009
"If we persevere in our quixotic quest for a fetishized medical equality we will sacrifice personal freedom as its price."
Thomas Szasz.
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- chuck b. said...
I agree.
- chuck b. said...
But I do not consent.
- Alex said...
Yes basically the socialists would have my health care reduced to gutter-level out of "fairness" to the 10 million or so who really need coverage. Isn't that insane and immoral?
- Oligonicella said...
Alex --
Yes on two levels. They are tearing down instead of building up, and they simply won't accomplish the primary goal.
- kentuckyliz said...
I am sore afraid. a history of 3 cancers + a gummint bureaucrat = rubber stamp denied, because I've used more than my fair share (even though it was self paid).
But they don't mind if i pay a few times over for my and everyone else's care.
I am gonna be so f***ed.
- Donna B. said...
Of course that assumes that it really is obesity that causes my arthritis. When everyone (every single person I know and I have medical records on several ancestors) has it regardless their weight... I'm not so sure obesity is the cause.
Sure, I'm fat. I've had the bariatric surgery to "cure" it and it didn't work. It's caused health problems of its own relating to malnutrition and malabsorbtion, not to mention surgeries to repair the original surgery's failures.
I'd likely be near the same weight but much healthier if I'd never had the surgery and never went on a diet.
But... of course, my mild high blood pressure is due to my weight. To what do you attribute my near perfect cholesterol and blood sugar readings?
Could it be that same heredity that causes my arthritis?
Not all diseases (even depression) are caused by something that someone purposely does or does not do.
Two things are driving up the cost of health care:
1) treatments and technology that were not available 20 years ago.
2) layer upon layers of bureaucratic bullshit that did not exist 20 years ago.
- Alex said...
Donna B - sorry about your condition. Health is the only thing that really matters in the end.
- Kevin said...
"We will become the voluntary slaves of a 'compassionate' government that will provide the same low quality health care to everyone."
Not true. The politically well-connected will continue to receive high-quality care.
- Alex said...
Not true. The politically well-connected will continue to receive high-quality care.
Really? In the USSR the Bolsheviks instigated a purge of the kulaks, but then a NEW ruling class of Bolsheviks emerged who had the best of everything, dammit.... Even Communism doesn't work out for the little guy!
- Chip Ahoy said...
The discussion begins with the statement, "Our health care system is in crisis and needs fixing."
How do you even have a rational discussion when you're presented with an extremely debatable fallacious and I dare say partisan conclusion offered as opening premise?
I pay through the nose for insurance. I have more health insurance than I care to use but even the meager portion I do use is a total drag. Insurance companies can be complete bastards. The last one, who I changed this year and who must remain nameless but whose initials are United Health Care, came between me and my primary care physician so heavily that I avoided primary care altogether. I became sick and tired of all UHC's correspondence telling me what I must do for them for things to work and what they would not pay for.
My housekeeper's boy had an accident typical of the sort boys get up to. I asked my housekeeper if she had insurance. She said for herself, yes, through her employer, but not for her kids. That would amount to $400 a month additional she could not afford. He was bleeding a lot near one eye, freaked them both out so she took him to hospital. The boy took a few stitches to patch. He's fine. Turns out, it could have been managed at home, but they didn't know that while the boy was bleeding so profusely, and so close to his eye, she didn't risk treating at home. She didn't take the boy to a neighborhood clinic where he could have been patched up quickly and less expensively, instead she rushed him to emergency and now will face the bills. As to her own insurance, I do not have a good answer for her. I would prefer her kids all be insured. I could imagine a better way than emergency for everything that happens that seems beyond home remedy. I believe modern life is just too complex for some people to handle and the costs are so high they need their freedom exchanged for security. Even if they had insurance, then that complexity would be too much to handle. So this rational argument about stellar health care being exchanged for freedom and sub-standard health care loses to the masses of people with no health care at all and an inability to cope with the complexities of modern life.
But let's be frank, this isn't about health care. As always, it's about votes and about control and about the appearance of caring. If these politicians foisting this on us actually did care then they'd make it possible to enable everyone to acquire real insurance and they'd restrict outrageous settlements against health care providers driving up their insurance and out of the business, and they would regulate insurance companies more closely and carefully.
- OldGrouchy Doug Wright said...
We might be truly screwed but I've got believe that's not forever or even for more than until 2012.
I'll vote in 2010 and 2012 only for Constitutionalists who do not belong to the Democrat Party.
- Daryl said...
Barack Obama says government health care isn't good enough for himself or his family.
Barack Obama also threatens to take away stimulus money from states with governors who defy him.
He's a gangster, like Al Capone, and the last thing we need is to give him more power over the most intimate parts of our lives.
- Joe said...
Out of curiosity, how is it remotely constitutional for congress to mandate that every person have health insurance?
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UHC is the worse health insurance I ever had. They denied almost all non-trivial claims forcing me to resubmit them (the other trick was to suddenly lose record of being a customer.) Since then I've had good to great insurance. During all this, my family and I had a fantastic set of doctors and excellent hospitals.
- Chris said...
One hopes a socialist plan wouldn't go that far. I think it is possible to have a socialized system without requiring equality. We already have medicare and medicaid, laws that prevent denial of service in certain cases and force insurance companies to cover lousy risks, and laws that require certain companies to provide healthcare options to their employees. That's already pretty socialist.
- Synova said...
Chip, that sounds like the sort of situation that the new clinic ideas for Walgreens and Walmart might be able to help. Staffed by nurses and nurse practitioners and pay cash... how much does it cost, really, to spend a few minutes to have someone with some experience to clean and sterilize and put a bandaid on it and tell you if it's serious or not?
But if it's not *cash* based, then you've got all the insurance claims to process which have to pay the salaries of that many more people full-time... and government claims are no different.
Part of what people want is the easy urgent care availability and shot clinics and the place to go when you know what is wrong and what drug you need. And it *ought* to be easy, but government free clinics would be like government doing *anything*... can we all say DMV? I knew we could.
The retail clinics such as what Walmart was/is suggesting would charge for having someone look at a head wound and put a bandaid on it... but not anywhere near what an emergency room costs.
Facilitating that sort of basic care by making sure that the legal hurdles are small and reasonable would cost next to nothing.
- Lance said...
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- Lance said...
Szasz asserts that government-run health care will be low quality.
As a thought experiment, what if government-run health care were high quality? Would that make it okay?
- Methadras said...
As has been said before, when you try to become everything to everyone, you end up being nothing to anyone.
- Methadras said...
We are willing to drop 20% of GDP on 1% of the population in the form of socialized and rationed healthcare where it would be a penalty not to have it? Has this country gone fucking nuts?
- PatCA said...
I disagree with Szasz in only one respect: this quest is not quixotic, it is cynical and political.
- T J Sawyer said...
Joe said, "Out of curiosity, how is it remotely constitutional for congress to mandate that every person have health insurance?"
It's in the same Article that says I have to pay you time-and-a-half after 40 hours. In the next clause!
- Synova said...
"As a thought experiment, what if government-run health care were high quality? Would that make it okay?"
Do we need a thought experiment?
We've got military health care as an example. It's fabulous. In so very many ways it's utterly exceptional.
But it's got it's quirks. It's got it's rules.
I had two babies with the Air Force and not a single complaint... but then, it didn't bother me at all not to get to choose my doctor. Honestly, I liked the way they did it. There was a staff, you made an appointment, and you saw the next available doctor or nurse midwife on the list. Different person almost every time. (Military OB/GYN departments are huge because everyone is in their prime reproductive years.) And then... when I went into labor and went to the hospital the doctor on duty (and a host of boys way too young to have their illusions destroyed) delivered whomever was ready to deliver.
The theories and methods were cutting edge, really, and I was shocked with later civilian experiences that the civilian hospital was sooo bad when it came to post-birth treatment of *me* and stupid obsolete behavior with my baby... like feeding her freaking sugar water from a bottle...
But there, too... you didn't have a choice. At the time drugs and epidurals were out... so you didn't have the option.
My husband had herniated disks and major back surgery that took 14 days in the hospital for recovery. He had a fabulous neuro-surgeon... because they had one on staff at Clark, AB. We arrived one day, he went to see the doctor, and they had him in surgery before he even in-processed to his squadron.
BUT... that was after an entire year of one three day stint in "quarters" after another, and constant pain killers and muscle relaxants. And being taken *off* quarters because otherwise the doctor would have to refer him to a specialist, and then, three days later, being on quarters again. He never had an MRI, never had a CAT scan... because those were the things that would have to happen if he was on quarters too many times in a row.
We *finally* went to a civilian doctor when we were taking leave on route to the Philippines because my parents, thankfully, lived far enough from any military hospital that the visit could be billed to the military. (He went to the doctor at the hospital near *his* folks and got the same story as at our old base... gave him some pain meds and muscle relaxants.) SO! We went to the doctor in my home-town, immediately got an MRI and stuff, the doc says... lookie, you've got three herniated disks in your lower back, I suggest traction therapy, at least to start.
Then we got on an airplane in St. Louis, and Praise God Almighty, first come first serve... the Air Force put us in first class, and my husband sat for 24 hours... if it had been in coach he'd probably be a cripple.
But we had the MRI images with us and he walked into the doctor's office at Clark and got immediate help.
Now *maybe* the doc's at Clark would have sent him to get an MRI right away too... maybe...
What we hear from Canada and what we hear from the UK is pretty similar. Waiting lists are long. Convincing someone that you're really sick is sometimes hard... sometimes not, but when it is there is limited ability to go find someone else to get an opinion from and sometimes the specialist you get sent to is the only one for your area... and you can't just decide to circumvent the system. It's not allowed.
- BJM said...
Why not just add the unisured/uninsurable to an existing government plan/program? Immediate problem solved.
I do not believe that the politically well-connected will continue to receive high-quality care as quality and access will diminish as numbers in the private sector decline.
There simply are not enough rich and powerful to sustain the system at current levels and cutting edge medicine may disappear very quickly.
The one fact we know is that the goverment has failed miserably to rein in Medicare & VA costs, eliminate waste and fraud and monitor quality.
However the thing that should make every one really nervous is the immoral breaking of the generational pact made with our elders.
When will you become disposable?
- cubanbob said...
The only thing to consider is who is exempted: members of congress, federal employees and various union members and state employees. If it isn't good enough for them, why is it good enough for you?
- BJM said...
Synova @12:19
Part of what people want is the easy urgent care availability and shot clinics and the place to go when you know what is wrong and what drug you need.
I know it's hard to believe given the way Mexico is portrayed in our media, but the type of clinics Wal-Mart is contemplating have existed in Mexico for some time.
- Bruce Hayden said...
As a thought experiment, what if government-run health care were high quality? Would that make it okay?
No, because it would bankrupt the country. Not the $2 Trillion deficit that Obama was promising before Cap and Tax and health care reform, but real serious, 25%+ of GNP dedicated to health care.
Because government health care even more disassociates price from quantity than we have now, demand is guaranteed to soar. But in that case, the government has two choices: ration or spend hugely greater amounts of GNP. You have presupposed that rationing isn't utilized, leaving huge increases in costs.
Oh, and have I mentioned that we are in the midst of probably the worst recession in the last 50 years, and raising taxes at such a time is guaranteed to significantly impair our recovery from it? Or, that the Chinese are threatening not to buy any more of our debt?
- Bruce Hayden said...
I think that one of the big disconnects here was evidenced by the President saying that one advantage of his health care plan is that (evil) insurance companies would no longer be making coverage decisions, rather, it would be the government.
What I wanted to ask him, was: Why that would be better?
What he doesn't seem to grasp is that when the government rejects your claim, you have no recourse, except through the political process. But then, when you do have recourse through the political process, you get political results, such as as much being spent on AIDS research, a disease that often has a large voluntary component, as is being spent on cancer, with 40x the death toll, and more than for heart attacks, which again have a 40x death toll.
Yes, the evil insurance companies also reject claims. But in the long run, they have far less ability to do so than the government does.
If you get your insurance through work, then if enough employees complain, next time around, your employer is likely to look closely at other companies. And if you have an individual plan, you don't have to wait until the yearly renegotiation.
All you have to do is look at the results with other countries with socialized medicine of one type or another when it comes to non-standard care. Look at how long it takes to get an MRI, or how many MRIs per million people, etc. And you can see why governments invariably resort to rationing, and that rationing invariably takes the form of limiting the more extreme (and expensive) care, and does so for those in the most need.
- Bruce Hayden said...
The one fact we know is that the goverment has failed miserably to rein in Medicare & VA costs, eliminate waste and fraud and monitor quality.
One thing to keep in mind whenever the low overhead costs for Medicare are brought up, is that such is a primary cause of the huge level of waste and fraud in the system - a level that appears to be well in excess of that of the combined overhead and fraud and abuse of private insurance plans.
- Deb said...
I've gone from anger, to depression to near despair about this health care thing for awhile. I'm blessed with good health, touch wood, but I know as I get older that could change. What I really fear is my children's future if this legislation passes.
I would leave, but where would I go? Seriously. I do not want to live in a socialist country, and I don't think I can take the heartbreak of watching the destruction of this country.
- prairie wind said...
I agree with Chip: The "crisis" comes from no one questioning that there is a crisis. Congress would rather pass a bad bill than no bill at all.
I have a low-premium, high-deductible plan with a health savings account. I pay for everything (except the usual preventive stuff) with pre-tax dollars and still pay less overall than I would with a cadillac policy. If we all had to pay cash for preventive tests--mamogram and pap, for example--those costs would come down. See what has happened to the cost of LASIK over the years.
I'd like to see health insurance de-coupled from employment.
- rhhardin said...
The idea that every life is infinitely precious
Infinite doesn't mean large. It just means you can't calculate with life. Other considerations take over instead.
That can't be true with government, however.
- Cedarford said...
Chip - " I believe modern life is just too complex for some people to handle and the costs are so high they need their freedom exchanged for security. Even if they had insurance, then that complexity would be too much to handle. So this rational argument about stellar health care being exchanged for freedom and sub-standard health care loses to the masses of people with no health care at all and an inability to cope with the complexities of modern life."
My Mom died of cancer. Then there was a year-long battle over medical bills, dunning notices that providers said the insurer failed to pay, hundreds of dubious hospital charges for her 6 hospitalizations in her final year...the dunning notices and high pressure collection agencies started with her, dying, trying to deal with them. Then my Dad. My Dad is a smart person, but it was the bills and conflicts between the insurers, "caregivers", specialists, and hospital(s) were overwhelming. He had to hire someone who "knew the right codes" and "prevailing practices" to challenge some charges, get the insurer to admit they (without actually admitting it) were not paying bills they should have in hopes that Dad would just fork it up.
The guy he hired said the two insurers were notorious for rejecting bills, putting people on hold for 20 minutes in hopes that they would get "sick of it" and pay themselves. He knocked 30% off the hospital bill and got retroactive discounts on some drugs and home disability materials Mom should have gotten.
Right now, it is a conflict between people who have "great corporate health insurance" - a minority in this country, and those that (1)Don't have health insurance;(2)Have inadequate or bad insurance with all sorts of "pre-existing condition, drug selection; (3)Hate the nightmare maze of medical bills and insurers they must become embroiled in; (4)Business leaders and economists that now collectively say that paying 50% more per capita than any advanced nation and adding those costs to goods we are trying to export is absolutely unsustainable.
Bruce Hayden - " As a thought experiment, what if government-run health care were high quality? Would that make it okay?
No, because it would bankrupt the country. Not the $2 Trillion deficit that Obama was promising before Cap and Tax and health care reform, but real serious, 25%+ of GNP dedicated to health care."
Hard to see how the country would be bankrupted faster by reducing medical costs to levels equivalent to what other advanced nations with higher life expectancies. That would be 50% less than we are now paying. And people in Japan, Germany, France have had 60-100 years to work out the kinks, so we DON't HAVE to take the relatively bad British plan.
- Original Mike said...
Out of curiosity, how is it remotely constitutional for congress to mandate that every person have health insurance?.
Joe asks a good question.
- LarsPorsena said...
Just look at the initial estimates for the costs of Medicare.
It's now 70 times the projections.
Has any government estimate of costs
ever been close to the actual costs incurred?
The idea that this is going to save money is sophistical buffoonery.
- The Drill SGT said...
various random reponses:
Two things are driving up the cost of health care:
1) treatments and technology that were not available 20 years ago.
2) layer upon layers of bureaucratic bullshit that did not exist 20 years ago.
The biggest item is an aging population
(Military OB/GYN departments are huge because everyone is in their prime reproductive years.)
The crisis component of that force structure is that OB/GYNs start as general surgeons, so they are deployable
The only thing to consider is who is exempted: members of congress, federal employees and various union members and state employees. If it isn't good enough for them, why is it good enough for you?
yes, the various ills exempt the FEHBP from requirements. te irony is that the FEHBP is a shell of admin types that it on top of a BCBS insurance plan. you know, the evil type that will be put out of business
- The Drill SGT said...
- The Drill SGT said...
This is page 16 of Hr 3200. It seems to grandfather existing coverage as long as nothing in your policy changes and you dont need to change employers and thus plans.
(a) GRANDFATHERED HEALTH INSURANCE COVERAGE DEFINED.—Subject to the succeeding provisions of
this section, for purposes of establishing acceptable coverage under this division, the term ''grandfathered health
insurance coverage'' means individual health insurance
coverage that is offered and in force and effect before the
first day of Y1 if the following conditions are met:
(A) IN GENERAL.—Except as provided in
this paragraph, the individual health insurance
issuer offering such coverage does not enroll
any individual in such coverage if the first ef15
fective date of coverage is on or after the first
day of Y1.
MITTED.—Subparagraph (A) shall not affect
the subsequent enrollment of a dependent of an
individual who is covered as of such first day.
CONDITIONS.—Subject to paragraph (3) and except
as required by law, the issuer does not change any
of its terms or conditions, including benefits and
cost-sharing, from those in effect as of the day before the first day of Y1.
so after a couple of years, all private coverage would be forbidden?
- LarsPorsena said...
"so after a couple of years, all private coverage would be forbidden?"
As Titus would say,"Natch".
- traditionalguy said...
As someone who deals with government employees working in their monopoly feifdoms nearly everyday, I see that a lot depends on those employees attitudes. With computers many things will work well unless the employees just enjoy hurting people and making life miserable for others. If they are bad government employees, then there is NOTHING you can do about the disasters that they are intentionally causing everyone. There is no competition that could easily drive these mentally ill people out of business and replace them with good people. Obama's proposed, unnecessary, government monopoly over health care may be a ploy to drain all remaining wealth out of the USA in order to defund our Military Power.
- OldGrouchy Doug Wright said...
Michael Yon's blog posting on the Afghan village of Sangow Bar contains a statement very pertinent to the USA's pending health bill: "Dr. Yaqubi wants to show people that health care is not free, but he says that the parliament in Kabul thinks it should free to all. The Afghan government can't even drill a well for this provincial hospital, and all their machines and supplies were probably donated, yet they want "free" healthcare. The beggars of Kabul who refuse to drill a well for the Ghor Provincial Hospital want free health care for all!"
Well, our President and his Democrat fellows in Congress want the USA to have health care for all, much IMHO would be free. Yet we can't take care of our own borders, use our own resources for energy, or promote our own form of freedom to others.
Just F'ing great!
- Emilie babcox said...
Chip Ahoy, tell your housekeeper to call the hospital and tell them that she can pay only X dollars per month (10, 20, whatever). They will try to get her to pay more, but tell her to be firm - stick to a number with which she is comfortable. They will urge her to put the bill onto a credit card, but she should refuse. Then she simply has to keep up the payments for as long as it takes - years, maybe. As long as she doesn't miss a payment, her credit will be fine and the hospital can't pursue her legally. It's a bit irritating, but also a great no-interest loan.
- Hoosier Daddy said...
Why not just add the unisured/uninsurable to an existing government plan/program? Immediate problem solved.
Oh get real. Who the hell do you think you are offering a basic common sense approach to this very complex and important issue?
/end snark
I'll beat this horse again and say that the first step in health care reform is reforming the attitude of American society as to what constitutes health care. One of the main reasons your health insurance premiums are sky high is because we insist on paying a $20 co-pay for our health care and that's it. Whether it's a broken leg or an annual physical we have been conditioned to pay a measly co-pay and go on our way. Well that $20 probably covers 5% of the frickin office visit which means the insurer has to pony up the rest. I worked for a health insurer for several years and when group plans wanted lower premiums we could accommodate by reducing benefits or raising deductibles. Raise a deductible and the people pitched a fit. Take away benefits like bariatric surgery and they pitched a fit. Raise a co-pay and they pitched a fit. Fine, here's the premium. They pitched a fit.
Again, you don't have health insurance you have a health coverage plan. Try filing a claim with your auto insurer for the oil change and tune up on your car and let me know how that works out. Try filing a claim with your homeowners insurance because you had to replace your water heater or sump pump and let me know how long the CSR laughs at you.
Now the BJM makes a good point. Just add these uninsured to the Medicare rolls and offer them Part A. That way they will have inpatient and skilled nursing care. If they want basic doctor care then they can pay a Part B premium and go on from there. Now everyone has basic medical coverage and no one will have to be bankrupt because they broke an arm or gets cancer. Raise the Medicare tax on EVERYONE to 2% and required anyone who is not 65 and over who is on Medicare to pay a monthly $50 premium for Part A. There, we just solved the crisis in 5 minutes.
- The Crack Emcee said...
Am I the only person who's seen this bullshit in action, and will speak out about it? In Europe, I've walked through floor after floor of a hospital and never even encountered a nurse. What's wrong with you people? Stop this NOW.
It's time for The Macho Response.
- hawkeyedjb said...
Bruce Hayden said "...you have no recourse, except through the political process. But then, when you do have recourse through the political process, you get political results."
You've pretty clearly identified the goal of this 'reform.' Let's politicize everything, and power will flow to the politically connected.
- Bruce Hayden said...
Two things are driving up the cost of health care:
1) treatments and technology that were not available 20 years ago.
2) layer upon layers of bureaucratic bullshit that did not exist 20 years ago.
3) An aging population (thanks to Drill SGT)
4) The leveraging effect of under-reimbursement of medical costs by Medicare and other government payers.
The way this works is that when actual costs go up - whether because labor costs are rising, government mandated overhead rises, etc., the government, for such programs as Medicare, does not increase its reimbursements accordingly. Rather, it is more likely to cut them. As a result, those covered by private plans and those (actually) paying themselves for their health care cross-subsidize the difference between costs and government reimbursements for those in those programs.
Things are only going to get worse, which may be part of why the Democrats are so hot to trot getting everyone under government plans. Doctors are bailing right and left from taking Medicare, etc. patients. Meanwhile, the Obama Administration has done almost anything that it thought it could to bail out all those zero down housing borrowers by inflating the value of their houses through its economic policies (esp. the two trillion dollar deficit and all the borrowing that requires).
So, every time that a medical cost goes up, whether due to minimum wages going up, new drugs coming onto the market, etc., those with non-government paid health care are paying for not only their own part of the increase, but also for the increases of those on Medicare, Medicaid, etc.
Of course, just to make this problem worse, this is the time that Medicare decides to (proudly) CUT its reimbursement rates, claiming cost savings as a result. Yes, it cut its own costs - by making everyone else pay just that much more for those covered by Medicare through this cross-subsidization.
- Quayle said...
To those that say "Europe has government healcare and it works just fine."
1. Have you ever lived in Europe?
2. If you have you'll realize that most Europeans that have not been to America don't know how good we have it here, so they don't complain about how they have it there.
2.a. They don't have as high of standard of living as we have here - not even close.
3. Most Europeans that have been to America really like the freedom that we have here to buy what we want.
4. Example of European healthcare laws: if you drink and drive in Germany, and get caught, you can lose your government healthcare.
4.a. But of course the Germans are eminently logical. In America, we'll probably allow people to drink and drive, and still give them coverage.
You get the point - comparisons to other countries are stupid.
- Big Mike said...
The only thing to consider is who is exempted: members of congress, federal employees and various union members and state employees. If it isn't good enough for them, why is it good enough for you?
You missed a group: the limousine liberals, whose personal wealth shields them from the consequences of "medical equality."
- Paul Brinkley said...
This discussion might be of interest to commenters here.
- former law student said...
2. If you have you'll realize that most Europeans that have not been to America don't know how good we have it here, so they don't complain about how they have it there.
True. No Western European has ever gone through anything like Cedarford's mom's experience -- if they knew what it was like they'd never complain about their health care.
2.a. They don't have as high of standard of living as we have here - not even close
I've been thinking about my cousins. They live in an apartment instead of a house -- but they think American wood framed houses are shacks; vacation cottages at best. They only have one car -- but the suburban rail station is only two blocks away. Their plasma screen is only 50 inches. They only get 30 channels on the cable. The high cost of electricity means while they have a washer, a dishwasher, and a freezer, they have no drier. For fun, they ride their bicycles. The net result is that my cousin at 60 has the thighs and butt of an 18 year old.
- Quayle said...
I've been thinking about my cousins. They live in an apartment instead of a house -- but they think American wood framed houses are shacks; vacation cottages at best.
And so they continue to pay rent to someone else, because their high cultural standards demand that they build bomb shelters for homes, and nobody but the very rich can afford them.
They only have one car -- but the suburban rail station is only two blocks away.
And so their unemployment rate chronically runs 4 to 5% higher than the normal US rate because the train line into the village doesn't pay for itself and the rest of the country is taxed to keep it running.
- Hoosier Daddy said...
I've been thinking about my cousins. They live in an apartment instead of a house -- but they think American wood framed houses are shacks; vacation cottages at best.
Sounds like they a)have a very limited exposure to the US or b) elitist snobs who think homes should be chateaus or nothing at all or c) all of the above.
I pick C
As an aside, for all the hoopla about how friggin great Europe is, I don't see mucn in the way of a mass exodus of Americans moving to France, Germany, England, etc. I've been there and I think its nice and if I had to live there I think I could assimilate much easier than say Brazil or say, Uganda. However, I still think that for all its faults life here is still better.
So far anyway. I'll let you know again in 2012.
- Hoosier Daddy said...
Hey here's an idea for the GOP. Lets make a great compromise on health care AND energy in one fell swoop.
Everyone knows that France had THE BEST health care system in the world and we all know how progressive and totally awesome the French are. So lets do this.
Lets adopt the French health care system AND lets adopt the French energy policy which would all but eliminate those filthy dirty coal powered plants and reduce our dependency on foreign oil.
Win win right?
- Just Lurking said...
"unless the employees just enjoy hurting people and making life miserable for others."
Bingo. Bureaucrats are monsters. I worked in the public sector in my younger, idealistic years, so I know the mindset- which is, do whatever you can to avoid work. If that means not returning calls or throwing more paperwork at customers, so be it.
People will die rather than deal with these assholes.
The idea that you can get high quality healthcare for everyone on the cheap is a liberal wetdream. Quality costs. Especially due to administrative overhead. Replacing the private insurance bureaucracy with a public one will COST MORE. Basic rule of economics: the public sector has zero incentive for efficiency.
Pay as you go for basic healthcare care is the way to go. Catastrophic coverage for major illness. Like other types of insurance. Lower overheads lower costs.
But most Americans see health care as an entitlement that the govt. should provide, at low cost to them. So we will end up with an inefficient, bureaucratic nightmare and still get sick.
With today's system, yeah you better have money if you get seriously sick, or your health care will be shit and you will likely die. Under Obamacare, EVEN if you have money, if you get seriously sick your health care will be shit and you will likely die. That's called equality.
- Jeremy said...
"If we persevere in our quixotic quest for a fetishized medical equality we will sacrifice personal freedom as its price."
There's a good reason we're the ONLY industrialized nation on the planet without national health care for it's citizens: The Insurance Lobby.
*Except of course for those who are well taken care of via Veterans Benefits, Medicare and Medicaid...all nasty "socialistic" programs people here whine about on a daily basis.
I've asked before and never really get a reasonable response, but can I assume Ann and the rest of the wingnut pack here will refuse all benefits provided by those "socialistic" programs when the time comes...or will you agree to stop right now if you're already eligible?
- Jeremy said...
Just Lurking said..."Bureaucrats are monsters."
Yeah, those lazy-ass fireman, cops, etc.
should all be fired.
- Just Lurking said...
"Yeah, those lazy-ass fireman, cops, etc. should all be fired."
Right. That's exactly what I meant.
Disingenuous ass.
- Jeremy said...
Just Lurking - I hate to educate you, dumb-ass, but fireman and cops are also bureaucrats...just as those who handle child welfare cases, and child abuse cases and many other aspects of "government."
Your stupid assumption that all "bureaucrats" are "monsters" is just that: stupid.
If you and others feel the "government" is the cause of all evils, then stop using anything relating to "government" and see how long YOU can handle matters on your own.
- Jeremy said...
Just Lurking said..."People will die rather than deal with these assholes."
Like those who receive Medicare, Medicaid, Veteran's Benefits, Unemployment, etc.
- OldGrouchy Doug Wright said...
So, we'll now have to bow down to f'ing bureaucrats in order to go to the store, to drive over the hills to Grandma's hovel, to buy APCs from the pharmacy, to move to the next village/department, to even stay in our own homes/houses/hovels unless the f'ing bureaucrats approve. And, of course, our local bureaucrat will be an elite who knows better than us mere peasants.
Thank you, Jeremy, for enlightening us.
OBTW: does your neighborhood street have cobblestone paving, mine does; extremely beneficial that, for several reasons.
- Jeremy said...
OldGrouchy Doug Wright - Will YOU be...
refusing Medicare, Medicaid, Veteran's Benefits, Unemployment, etc.??
And your relative and friends, too???
You know they won't...suck-ass.
- Big Mike said...
Amending my 9:23 post to read "limousine liberals like Jeremy,"
- SukieTawdry said...
...comparisons to other countries are stupid.
Very stupid. The US is not like Canada. It's not like the UK. It's not like France, Australia, Sweden or Japan. In fact, its not like anywhere else on earth. We are a unique nation and require a unique approach. Let's stop pretending we can simply choose among the health care delivery systems operating elsewhere and just transfer it here with an expectation of the same approximate results and without significant harm to our hallmark R&D.
- Jeremy said...
SukieTawdry - Right.
We're MUCH better than those other silly countries that existed for centuries before us.
What could THEY possibly know that WE don't know?
Could you possibly be more arrogant?
And I love Big Mike's ridiculous comment, referring to me as a limosine liberal.
What does that even mean...considering what the GOP is made up of?
- former law student said...
We are a unique nation and require a unique approach. Let's stop pretending we can simply choose among the health care delivery systems operating elsewhere
We don't need no stinkin' metric system, neither!
And Ike was all wrong about needing the Autobahn over here. Route 66 was good enough for Grampa, and it oughta be good enough for me and you. Damn furriners -- never one had no good idee, never.
- The Crack Emcee said...
"We're MUCH better than those other silly countries that existed for centuries before us.
What could THEY possibly know that WE don't know?
Could you possibly be more arrogant?"
Nope. Arrogant up the fucking whazoo we are! Could you possibly be more pussy?!? Where do you think you are, Thailand?!? What is your major malfunction? That an American can be as proud of his country as those arrogant pricks are of theirs? Ever heard a Frenchman say "Viva la France!" and another come along and say, "What the hell are you talking about?" - no! - only liberal American assholes say that kind of shit. France, Germany - all of 'em - can be as proud as they want but it's demanded, even by some Americans like you, that we cower and be humble before the rest of 'em. Well fuck you. We have standardized toilets, fool - something those "other silly countries that existed for centuries before us" can't seem to figure out yet! Why is that? Are they stupid? That would seem like a major "quality of life" issue, right? What gives? And their health system SUCKS - I lived there, so don't give me no bull about what you fucking "believe" they're doing! You want some European-style medicine? Then turn on the fucking tap and get some smartguy! Why haven't "other silly countries that existed for centuries before us" figured out water ain't medicine, idiot? You - and they - are a fucking joke and, yea, I'll be as fucking "arrogant" as I want about NOT being in the anti-American clique you pussies share together! Fuck you! It was living over there that taught me everything I need to know about my home and, damn it, people like you really should get the fuck out if you don't like our country - or our arrogance - because you need a dose of the reality of those "other silly countries that existed for centuries before us" to get that same perspective. Love it or leave it, bitch, and if you love it, then grow a pair to go with it.
Why can't you get it though your head: they're jealous of us! And they're using your stupid punk ass to bring us down! Ever heard the phrase "useful idiot"? That's you! It should be stamped on your forehead for calling another American arrogant in defense of Europe! We didn't try to conquer the world - that was Germany and Italy - and the french collaborated with them, just in case it worked out (You never know, right? They kicked their ass!) ! We don't have a world-wide reputation for rudeness - that's France! All those "other silly countries that existed for centuries before us" have been bested by one that's only been around for under three hundred years! That's the equivalent of being outsmarted by babies! But we're supposed to learn something from racist, backwards, stubborn, stupid, them? Give me a fucking break!
I swear, you idiots are fucking going down, and, if I have anything to do with it, when you fall your dumb ass will never get up again because I will personally chop you off at the knees because that is The Macho Response.
- Deb said...
re: Crack Emcee @8:15: I think I'm in love.


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