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It's not that anyone wants a pony, it's that Sony has seriously put a lot of people's information at risk. A stolen credit card can lead to your credit card being shut off at very inopportune times (I once had mine stolen and shutoff at the beginning of a month long trip in Europe. I had trouble even checking into my hotel because the credit card I gave them to hold the reservation no longer worked.). Even worse, if the thieves manage to damage your credit, that is exceptionally hard to repair and will stay with you for at least seven years. In the extreme, you could find yourself unable to buy a car or a house, or even turned down for a job (since some employers check credit history).
The question is that given Sony has put some many people at so much risk, are two games of their choosing and some credit monitoring enough to compensate?
And even so, all of this is only for US residents. OBVIOUSLY America is the most important place in the world, nobody else matters at all. Sony could probably afford to lose the Australian market, so they're not bothering to help us out at all. Mysteriously enough, just after the PSN went down, my Gmail account was compromised for the first time EVER, in the seceral years I've had it. I don't use the same password, but the canned security questions and personal info are all the same. I don't know what
You know your credit really isn't at risk unless you do it, right? If someone steals your card and charges up $15k in charges that are not yours, you call the credit card company, tell them you did not buy those (they are likely to call you first actually.... I've had it happen) and you get the charges reversed and a new card issued.
It's dead simple and not a real concern, IMHO.
Worst case scenarios:
-They use your existing credit card. You report it to the credit card company who disables your card and sends out a new one. For the week that you don't have the card, you can't use it. The law allows the credit card company to hold you responsible for the first $50 of fraudulent activity. Some credit card companies charge for a new card if your old one is stolen or misused (mine charges $10). In the end, you can't use your card for a week, and you could be out $60.
-They use your existing debit card. You report it to the bank who disables your card. The bank, however, is not responsible for refunding the fraudulent charges. Your entire bank account could be wiped out and you could be left with numerous overdraft fees. In the end, you're broke.
-They open a new line of credit in your name. You don't find out until you go to buy a car or a house or change jobs and only then you find out that you're considered an extreme credit risk. Some credit lines adjust your interest rate based on your credit score, so you could find that your existing credit card interest rate goes through the roof, even though that particular card isn't involved. It can take years to correct bad credit information, so in the end, you can't make any major purchases and you might not even be able to get a job.
Yes, these are the extreme examples, but they aren't that far-fetched.
They use your existing debit card. You report it to the bank who disables your card. The bank, however, is not responsible for refunding the fraudulent charges. Your entire bank account could be wiped out and you could be left with numerous overdraft fees. In the end, you're broke.
Unless they use it as a debit card (your PIN, which would not be in Sony's records), the rules are the same as credit cards with the difference being that they aren't required to refund your money while determining whether it was actually fraud. So yes, you could be broke for a bit, but you should get it all back. If they used your PIN (say, a robber that stole it and your PIN was written on the card) then the bank will assert that you broke the rules that protected you and you are responsible for 100% of the losses. If they use it as a credit card, signing your name fraudulently, the bank is responsible for the fraud, not you. They are even responsible for skimmers that give them the card and PIN, but it takes longer to get your money back when they think you did something wrong, like share your PIN.
Perhaps that's not the requirement by law, but on the 5 debit cards I've had from different banks, all have followed that. I've never had a card in my life (and I collected then in college for fun, having $2000 per year income and 50+ cards with $100,000+ available credit) that would have charged me a cent had I been the victim of fraud. So perhaps there are some cards that target "subrprime" card holders with abusive terms, but everything mainstream does actually do a good job of protecting you.
Many banks are now offering contractual terms that match the credit card's legally limited liability for that very reason. I would not suggest even having a debit card that does not have such a contractual liability limit.
If Sony wants to do a bit of fair compensation and some public service to get back in good graces, they should indemnify their users against any and all credit card fraud/identity theft (including consequential damages) and then sue the banks and credit agencies that make identity theft so easy and so damaging into the ground.
So their F*(K up means they shouldn't try to remedy the situation at all? Personally I expect Sony to do nothing, but they should do something. I was very pleased when Microsoft gave everyone a free a game for their system outage a few years ago. We buy these systems and games with the expected notion that we're going to get to use the futures. Things happen and shit breaks, I understand that, but the company SHOULD do something.
What I want is for Sony to stop being a dinosaur of a fucking company that supports the BSA, and start being a company that sticks to best practices. what the fuck kind of company stores old archived sensitive data on a networked server in 2011, and then proceeds to grandstand against how it must be anonymous and basically mislead the public in it's entirety?
People don't have the decision to retroactively fix the fact that they trusted a corporate identity with their information and that corporate entity ju
proceeds to grandstand against how it must be anonymous and basically mislead the public in it's entirety?
Except according to some members of Anonymous [huffingtonpost.com], it actually was some members of Anonymous who did it. Frankly, I don't think you can blame them at all for blaming Anonymous, it happened while Anonymous was attacking them, that alone would be enough to make them the prime suspect.
Of course, that doesn't mean Sony wasn't running an incompetently administered network, I'm just pointing out that it's entirely reasonable for them to point the finger at Anonymous.
The hilarity of this cracks me up. How can you not catch the obviousness here.
Anonymous has senior members/veterans? Since when? Especially when ANYONE can claim to be a member of anonymous or post on their pages? Guess what, I'm a seasoned veteran of anonymous because I've been with them for greater than 3 seconds. There, I'm a vet, senior member, quote me. etc.
what a joke.
What I want is for Sony to stop being a dinosaur of a fucking company that supports the BSA
What I want is a Unicorn that poops rainbows. - fixed that for you
I'm not a recent Sony customer, but what I'd want would be credit protection, and the financial institutions of whom I'm a customer to fully scrutinize my accounts for any illegal transaction -- paid for by Sony, of course. I would also want the credit protection service to be free for the next five years, and fully scrutinize my credit history with my involvement, to ensure my credit rating is set to the proper level. Finally, they should offer to buy back any PSN-related product I've purchased within the
I think you're missing the point.
It's not about what Sony "owes" anyone or what they deserve.
It's what it will take for consumers to be willing to take another chance on PSN.
Since so many popular games are crippled without online play, for the PS3 to be relevant, people have to want to use PSN. If they aren't, Sony essentially loses in the videogame arena forever and becomes a cautionary tale.
Personally? I can't even imagine what Sony could do at this point to make me want, for example, to give them my credit card number, so I am going to stop buying their products and get on with my life -- but not everyone thinks as I do, and there's some segment of the market they can win back over through naked bribery. As much as they can even semi-reasonably do so, they have to to remain relevant.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Sony fucked up so bad with the security of their online play offering they've made Microsoft look good by comparison. Rehabilitating their image from that will not be easy -- it isn't the biggest mistake a gaming company's ever made by a longshot, but it's going to hurt their reputation badly for a long time, and there's a big market cost for that.
ease up on the coffee.
Look an Astroturfer. Only one comment and a fresh account.
Look you stupid PR hack, if you are going to astroturf at least have the decency to create the account ahead of time and add a little to the dialog before you go posting your paid drivel.
A Thai ladyboy for some fun
I really wish that I owned a broken PS3 now...
I agree. Too few people are on Sony's side here. Most have jumped onto the Sony hate bandwagon infested with arrogance and ignorance. All I've heard is people bitching about how Sony is slow to inform people, but then when they keep people in the loop, people bitch about how Sony told them what they knew, and revised it when they learned more about the incident.
Quit being hypocrites.
i only want a single thing from sony (all of them): see them file for a chapter 7 bankruptcy
i've had enough of them.
they were a name for quality products up until about 15 years ago but since then it all went downhill: quality plummeted, rootkits, lies and deceptions, lawsuits against fans, and so on. I haven't bought a single product made by them during these last few years and i even refuse to support products made by them.
If i get calls for service to a sony product i let the poor guy have an earful abo
Everybody out there listening? Sony's astroturfer actually managed to say something intelligent. Of course, the rest of the post was pure garbage, but this is certainly a diamond of wisdom in a pile of, er, dirt.
And some sushi would be nice
1. They helped them kick the habit.
2. They introduced them to other game devices.
3. They taught them the dangers of undeserved trust.
These are pretty big lessons.
I still say hari cari [wikipedia.org] is the appropriate response. It is Japanese, it has a long tradition, and will reduce the chance that Sony does something similar in the future.
This would include for all the executives involved in the root kit scandal, removing "other OS", and all their other instances of raping the public.
What do you think Sony should do, if anything, to compensate for what has happened?"
IMO, Sony should do nothing. They should pack it all in and sell off their assets to competitors.
How many times does Sony have to abuse our trust before we stop going back like some beaten spouse who thinks maybe, just maybe, this time he really means it when he says he's done drinking and is going to counseling and will really change?
Sony is no longer, if it ever was, a company with which you should place any trust. They have deliberately infected machines with malware. They have a record of producing shitty stuff (like exploding batteries). They failed to take proper precautions to protect personal information.
It's time for Sony to take the honorable way out and commit seppuku.
"Honorable way out"? They've already lost all honor they had, including the emergency reserves for an "honorable way out". Not even hara-kiri is good enough for them.
Everything you say is correct, except of course that no company is honourable enough to shut itself down - even in Japan.
The government should bring down massive fines against them, and criminal charges against the decision makers, escalating every time they're busted again.
But that's not how companies work. Sigh. In the meantime, I just don't buy anything from Sony - sadly, that means that there are a lot of musicians not getting my money.
All I want is for Sony to get things back online and learn some lessons from this. I don't want gifts or subscriptions or any other stuff. Just learn the importance of pro-active security measures. Always be validating the integrity of your systems. Have people on the payroll who can deal with these things instead of having to hire out for them after the fact. Especially when you're directly involved in litigation and supposedly under threats of "hacker" groups. And learn how to communicate with your customers. Take a lesson from the LastPass guys, for example.
I don't want trinkets. Just get your shit together.
Have people on the payroll who can deal with these things instead of having to hire out for them after the fact.
I think it was extremely good Sony hired outside investigation. It could just as well been a dishonest employee and often in this type of things it is. Several million credit cards info on your hands and always some low paid guy will turn dishonest.
All I want is for Sony to get things back online and learn some lessons from this. I don't want gifts or subscriptions or any other stuff. Just learn the importance of pro-active security measures...
Unfortunately, what you ask for here is never taken as a priority in business....until it affects the bottom line.
Fortunately (or should I say hopefully) Sony has learned their lesson here and will re-prioritize security above the other shit they normally prioritize...like chasing after revenue streams regardless of any other factors. I have my doubts, even in the wake of a blatant negative impact to revenue.
What about me? So, they fsck up for everybody, but only US users get some sort of compensation and protection from THEIR mistakes?
Hopefully they are only extending credit protection to US customers because the risk to non-US users is minimal.
- a somewhat worried Canadian
my personal info is now probably being sold on the black market because of Sony
This really is the key here. They can compensate people for the down time... but there is very little they can really do about the personal information thing, which to me is a much bigger deal. They can't compensate everyone adequately, they'd go bankrupt. What they _could_ do is offer the token compensation they are proposing, and have a much bigger compensation package for anyone who can prove they got screwed due to their info leaking out. Maybe free hardware and access for life or something. Not really much benifit to them though, and would probably be abused somehow.
I've already ranted that our system in general is screwed up, and while there are (some) legal protections, the kind of data Sony had to be stolen should in a perfect world be of no concern. Relying on any piece of information that can't readily be changed as a credential (and in too many cases the only credential) is insane. And before I get flamed, no, I don't have a solution at hand... but surely we can come up with something better than "yup, the address matches, here's a credit card!".
As a close second option, I'd love a system where Sony doesn't need any of that data. All they need is a _public_ credit card number and some kind of auth code that's generated via keyfob/SMS message/whatever and is tied to company/amount/date. If we didn't have to give all our personal info to every company we do business to, this would mitigate these kind of issues.
Make it compulsory for ALL new games to be functional without requiring PSN even once
You should be able to buy a PS3 and use it till the end of its Hardware life without any internet access at all
Sony is giving you a free service that you didn't pay anything for. Why exactly is anybody expecting compensation? If there are actual damaged due to the need to get a new credit card or whatever, sure, they might be help liable, but for average Joe who only enjoys the free service and never entered the credit data in the first place? I don't see any need for compensation there at all.
That said of course I wouldn't mind it getting two free games, but I don't see that as compensation, but simply as additiona
|Sony is giving you a free service that you didn't pay anything for.
If it were free, why did Sony have credit card #s? Excuse my ignorance, I've never used their fine identity theft tool, but I don't consider iTunes or AppStore as being 'free' just because there is some free shit you can get there. Same with my smack dealer - she gives me the odd free hit, but I seem to give her a lot of money.
Just to be pedantic, if they charged you for a free service, would it still be ok?
My SO had a credit card compro
If it were free, why did Sony have credit card #s?
Because they have a shop where you can buy stuff. The online service and multiplayer is free, the games and DLC stuff isn't. In contrast on XboxLive you have to pay for multiplayer and pay for parts of the online service. You also don't need to give Sony your CC info if you don't plan to buy anything.
The problem is simply that you can't fairly compensate for potential future damage produced by identity theft. Getting two free games now doesn't make the trouble go away that identity theft might produce down
Sony is giving you a free service that you didn't pay anything for.
I paid $600 for it. It came as part of a bundle with some hardware.
Now that they want to offer me 2 games, why can't I pick any 2 games that I want?
Cry me a fucking river. You get your free credit protection, what more do you want for not being able to play your precious video games through a free online service?
(I presume based on the OP's inane whining that they are not paying for PSN+.)
I'm satisfied with the consumer-end bargains that they're offering for PSN users like myself. The one year of identity theft protection is a big help, plus two game, even downloadable ones, are a nice touch as well. Retail vouchers would've been better, of course.
But the only other thing I can ask is that, going forward, Sony should now be required to answer to a higher-up authority in regards to network security. What I mean is that, since Sony dropped the ball on such a massive scale, it could be argue
Question: in order to receive the free games, will you have to accept a click-through agreement and sign away your right to sue Sony over the breach?
1) Free credit protection for at least a year
2) Reimburse banks for reasonable and actual costs of changing credit card numbers for customers who want to do so.
3) Change their back-end so this information isn't stored longer than it's needed, working with banks if necessary.
4) Any customers who have under-$1000 actual damages beyond this should be reimbursable upon proof of loss and anyone with higher claims reimbursable upon proof of loss and at least a cursory fraud investigation (yes, people will try to
If Sony wants my business back, then I am going to need a shiny new version of Final Fantasy VII, updated with today's and tomorrow's graphics.
Well, you can get that already on the PC version of FF VII. There is (was?) a decent sized mod community sporting high-res packs and higher polygon models. It's not today's graphics, but then again -- not even tomorrow's computers do real-time raytracing, so you're left with the pre-rendered 2D play areas + depth map culling.
As far as Sony paying me back -- well, since I've boycotted them for over a decade I don't think there is anything they can do...
Ummm. $500 x 77 million users = $38.5 billion. Somehow I don't think we're going to see that.
...I have made it through this outage by doing other, more productive things...
I think you just came up with an answer to the situation. Put away the Playstation and do something else with your life. Stop being a slave to Sony or any other similar company.
I had an account at a bank which suffered data loss. It could have been theft or it could have been some idiot who misplaced sensitive information. They provided access to free credit reporting for a year. That should be mandatory. Unfortunately, even those guys are scumbags, because at the end of the year one of the credit reporting agencies actually began charging me for the service instead of closing the account.
Really, what could Sony possibly do? I have no clue what measures Sony took previously to ens
They should give everyone an Xbox 360.
And a Nintendo 3DS for PSP users.
They can pay the balance of the trade in of my PS3 for my Xbox
Don't own a PS3 (and not likely to ever own one - my PS2 works quite nicely thank you), so I can't say I care what they actually do, but...
What Sony will do is whatever the cheapest way to create the perception that they have "made things right" and prevent lawsuits. The consumer protection is the heavy lifting, so I would suspect that your choice of games (assuming you get a choice) will be whatever they could negotiate the best price for. (Think "bargain bin").
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts." -- Bertrand Russell


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Every now and then, a player comes along who becomes the "face" of a franchise.
The time is now and the place is the Chicago Wolves for team captain Darren Haydar.
Moving on upForward Darren Haydar is moving up on the all-time lists of the Chiclago Wolves and those of the American Hockey League. Here is how Haydar stacks up all time in the AHL:
Goals: 284 (26th)
Assists: 477 (13th)
Points: 761 (18th)
Here is how he stands with the Wolves' all-time leaders:
Steve Maltais: 454
Brett Sterling: 158
Rob Brown: 157
Haydar: 120
Maltais: 497
Brown: 326
Jason Krog: 244
Bob Nardella: 239
Haydar: 221
Maltais: 951
Brown: 483
Krog: 342
Haydar: 341
Source: Chicago Wolves
"He's absolutely the face of the franchise," said Wolves general manager Wendell Young. "He might be the face of the AHL, actually, when you look at where he is in all-time scoring, the active scoring leaders list. Every week, he seems to be moving up another notch. He's the model of consistency in our league.
"He is what the Wolves are all about. He doesn't like to lose. He wants to win. He's a great person and very caring and giving back to the community. That's what we want. That's what our organization is about. We talked about the face of the franchise. He epitomizes all those."
Haydar, a 33-year-old right wing, is in his second go-round with the American Hockey League's Wolves. He won a Calder Cup championship with the Wolves in 2008 before leaving for what he thought was a real shot at the NHL.
That shot never came, and after seasons in Grand Rapids and Lake Erie, Haydar came "home" to the Wolves in 2010.
Entering this weekend's games at Hamilton and Toronto, Haydar has 12 goals and 18 assists this year. For his Wolves career, he has 120 goals and 221 assists, putting his points total 1 short of tying Jason Krog for third in franchise history.
For a team completing its 19th year of play, it's probably safe to say that only one other player has earned the tag of "face of the franchise," and that was high-scoring winger Steve Maltais, who starred in the early days of the Wolves.
"I left here for an opportunity in the NHL; that's the only reason I left," Haydar said. "I think I was misled in terms of the reasons why I left, in terms of the organizations I signed with. I was told I was going to be given an opportunity, and that didn't happen.
"Even in those years, when I happened to be in the American League, if there was a team I wanted to play for, it was definitely the Chicago Wolves. It starts from the ownership: Don Levin. He's been great to myself and my wife and our families. It's because of people like him, and it's transcended down through the coaching staff, when (head coach) John Anderson was here.
"The Chicago Wolves treat their players, from my perspective, as family. That's something that I knew if I was in the American Hockey League, it was a place I wanted to come back to and play."
Haydar knows he's been called the "Crash Davis," of hockey: the journeyman who gets the occasional cup of coffee in the big leagues only to spend most of his time toiling in the minors.
He also has heard all about what he can't do: At 5-foot-10 and 173 pounds, he's too small; he doesn't skate with enough power.
"I still get questions as to why Steve Maltais wasn't a full-time (NHL) player," Young said. "I get the questions about Haydar. It's the same thing. It's easy to pick on deficiencies and not what they're really good at. Guys like Darren Haydar make plays when you don't think they're going to be made."
For the record, Haydar has logged 23 games in the NHL, two with Nashville, 20 with Atlanta (the former parent club of the Wolves) and one with Colorado. He has 1 goal and 7 assists.
"Everyone says I'm either too small or I don't skate well enough," said Haydar, a collegiate star at the University of New Hampshire and a 1999 draft pick of Nashville. "But it's not football. We don't go through the combines. It's not the fastest guy in hockey. There's a lot of thinking.
"There are more variables in hockey than there are in football because the quarterback is the one making decisions. In hockey, everyone has to make decisions.
"I've accepted my window. I'm 33. I'm not 22 anymore. It seems to be the trend, going younger, (and) I'm definitely OK with that. I love it when my teammates get called up. I'm just as happy as they are, especially when it's someone for the first time. It's always good to see them with the excitement they have on their face because I remember my first time going up, the excitement that I had."
So much for the negatives. Haydar and the Wolves would rather focus on what he can do.
"I think the game extremely well," he said, not immodestly. "That's my biggest asset. I see the ice very well. I think I'm a good passer, and I can finish. Over the course of my career, I've scored big-time goals at key moments in games, and I think that's something I've thrived on my whole career. That's what's kept me around, being able to score those big goals to help our team either win the championship or give ourselves a chance to win, especially come playoff time."
His teammates see it, too.
"What I love about him is, because he's such a good passer, he just tells me to fly, and he'll find me," said linemate Bill Sweatt.
For first-year Wolves coach Scott Arniel, having a captain like Haydar helped when he walked through the door the first time.
"Anytime you go to any team and you can have some guys who have been here before that have played in the league before and know what it takes to play 76 games in this league, they're invaluable for coaches," Arniel said. "Darren's a guy that's an elite player who has record numbers, who has been a great player in Chicago over the years, won a championship in Milwaukee. He's a guy that his teammates respect, his coaching staff respects."
Haydar also has had to be strong at home. His wife, Sara, has been battling throat cancer.
"It's been four years," Haydar said. "She's clear but she's not clear. She's got scar tissue that keeps building up in her airway.
"Just how strong she is lets me know I get to play the game of hockey for a living and enjoy it while I can. It's not going to be here forever. I don't take anything in life for granted anymore because it can be ripped from you at the drop of a hat, just like her life was. She wanted to become a nurse. She had to drop out of school because she was going through treatments.
"She is extremely strong and made me stronger because of what she's been through and how strong she's had to be. She's definitely helped me along the way."
As for his future, Haydar said he'd like to play for a few more years -- perhaps that NHL dream will still be fulfilled one day -- and after that, he'd like to coach. Either way, there is no time for regrets.
"I'm definitely at peace with that," he said. "I've been fortunate enough to win a championship here with Chicago and to win a championship with Milwaukee earlier on in my career. I've had a lot of accolades in terms of individual success within the league. Obviously, I'm disappointed I haven't really gotten my NHL opportunity or a chance like that. But I'm definitely at peace. I get to play hockey for a living. I enjoy it. I love coming to the rink and being with the guys every day."

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HHS Plans National HIV/AIDS Strategy Implementation
August 19, 2010
In response to the Presidential memo that accompanied the release of the Strategy, the HHS operational plan will assign responsibilities to agency officials, designate reporting structures for actions identified in the Federal Implementation Plan, and identify other appropriate actions to advance the Strategy. The plan will also include steps to strengthen coordination in planning, budgeting for, and evaluating domestic HIV/AIDS programs within and across agencies.
The other Federal agencies also designated by the President as "lead agencies" for implementing the Strategy -- the Department of Justice, the Department of Labor, the Department of Housing and Urban Development, the Department of Veterans Affairs, and the Social Security Administration -- are also preparing their respective implementation plans. These plans will all be submitted to the Office of National AIDS Policy and the Office of Management and Budget on December 9.
The HHS National HIV/AIDS Strategy Implementation Group includes a wide range of representatives from across the Department of Health and Human Services including representatives from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, Health Resources and Services Administration, Indian Health Service, National Institutes of Health, Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration, as well as the Office of Public Health and Science, Office on Disability, Office of Health Reform, and Center for Faith-based and Neighborhood Partnerships and many others. See the full membership list at the end of this post.
The process for developing the HHS implementation plan will unfold over the next several months. During that time, we will continue to confer with stakeholders from within and outside HHS as we prepare a plan that helps realize the promise of the National HIV/AIDS Strategy.
View a list of members (PDF 73 KB) of the HHS National HIV/AIDS Strategy Implementation Group.
Dr. Ron Valdiserri is Deputy Assistant Secretary for Health, Infectious Diseases, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.
CQ Weekly Reports on Advocates' Response to Obama Administration's Domestic, Global HIV/AIDS Efforts
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Welsh NHS fined £70k for patient psych file leak blunder
Email address typo leads to ICO spank first
The UK's Information Commissioner's Office (ICO) has slapped its first fine on the NHS after a mental health patient's file was leaked in an email gaffe.
The ICO handed the Aneurin Bevan Health Board in Wales a bill for £70,000 for sending the sensitive information to the wrong person.
A consultant from the NHS organisation emailed a letter containing a detailed psychological report of a patient to a secretary for formatting. But the doctor used two different spellings for the patient's name, which resulted in the file being sent to the wrong person who had the name with the different spelling.
The ICO, which gained powers to hand out stiff fines about 18 months ago, doesn't always resort to what it calls civil monetary penalties when it's told or finds out about a breach of data protection law - but it fines bodies when it thinks that the right precautions haven't been taken.
In this case, the office's probe found that neither of the staff members had been given adequate training, and there weren't enough checks in place to stop private information falling into the hands of the wrong people.
"The health service holds some of the most sensitive information available. The damage and distress caused by the loss of a patient's medical record is obvious, therefore it is vital that organisations across this sector make sure their data protection practices are adequate," the ICO's top enforcer Stephen Eckersley said in a canned statement.
"We are pleased that the Aneuvin Bevan Health Board has now committed to taking action to address the problems highlighted by our investigation; however organisations across the health service must stand up and take notice of this decision if they want to avoid future enforcement action from the ICO," he warned. ®
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Authorities in Neshoba County are on the lookout for an 18-year-old Philadelphia man who escaped from the Neshoba County Detention Facility around 10 a.m. Thursday morning.
Jail Administrator Larry Myers says Cornelious Robinson escaped through the break yard during exercise time. He apparently slipped under a fence, then scaled two other fences with barbed wire on top before deputies could catch him. He then escaped into the woods outside the facility.
Myers says Robinson had probably been working to loosen the inside fence for about a week. He also says he believes Robinson is still in the Philadelphia area.
Robinson was behind bars awaiting action from the Neshoba County Grand Jury on four counts of burglary.
Robinson is a 6'1", 150-pound black male. If you have any information on Robinson's whereabouts, you're asked to call the Neshoba County Sheriff's Department or the Philadelphia Police Department.


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BOSTON, Mass. – With all five runners among the top 100, the nationally ranked No. 9 MIT women's cross country team finished 12th as a team at the New England Intercollegiate Amateur Athletic Association (NEICAAA) championship on Saturday afternoon at Franklin Park. Katherine Eve led the way for the Engineers, who were third among all Division III squads in the multi-divisional meet with a total of 348 points.
Running on the familiar home course at Franklin Park, Eve completed the five-kilometer race in 18:43 to place 41st overall. Alina Gatowski was not far behind Eve, taking 44th with a time of 18:45. Tania Morimoto came through the chute 11 seconds later, good for 68th place. Martina de Geus's time of 19:12 was enough to put her at 95th and Claire O'Connell was the 100th runner across the finish in 19:17.
Boston College secured the team title, posting four of the top five finishes and score of 26 points. Middlebury College (third) and Williams College (sixth) were the only Division III teams to finish ahead of the Cardinal and Gray.
The Engineers wrap up the regular season next Saturday, October 16 at the Connecticut College Invitational. That will be the final meet before the Championship season gets under way with the New England Women's and Men's Athletic Conference (NEWMAC) meet on October 30.


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Tis the season for cranberry cocktails (and mocktails)! Sierra Mist Cranberry Splash makes a fitting accompaniment to holiday sips (and it's made with real sugar). It's just the perfect amount of cranberry flavor and fizz. I made their Warm Berry Cider recipe and then I made my own "Mistletoe Cocktail" below! Try out one or both with your family and friends this holiday season or serve up one of these as your "signature cockail" for a Christmas party! Don't forget to enter to win a fabulous prize pack from Sierra Mist below, yay!
P.S. I get a lot of questions about what camera I shoot with, by the way, so I thought I'd share that here: Canon Rebel and these shots were taken with the Canon 50mm f1.4 lens. I really have no idea what I'm doing with photography but I enjoy trying to learn so I do hope ya'll like the photos you see here. I had fun with these!
Without further ado, here is Warm Berry Cider! Perfect for sipping while watching Charlie Brown Christmas, if you ask me!
Make your berry cider extra cute by adding a simple "tag" if serving them up for a party! Just print off "berry cider", cut (I used a little shape cutter, and tie on.
Warm Berry Cider
- 1 cup Sierra Mist Cranberry Splash
- 2 sprigs of fresh thyme
- 6 fresh cranberries
- 1 lime wedge
- In a small pot, bring the cranberry splash and thyme up to a simmer.
- Pour over the cranberries in a mug.
- Squeeze the fresh lime wedge into the drink.
- Serve warm.
Now, you know you have the best job in the world when it involves cocktail creation. I pulled out all my cocktail ingredients and started mixing and matching to concoct this Mistletoe Kiss Cocktail.I served it up in cute milk glass bottles (because really, isn't everything cuter in those?) and added on some simple green ribbon. I have to say,they're delish. I'll definitely sip these while watching holiday movies this weekend.
Mistletoe Cocktail
- 1 cup Sierra Mist Cranberry Splash
- 2 ounces vodka
- 2 tablespoons grenadine
- splash lime juice
Combine all ingredients in a cocktail shaker with ice and mix well. Pour into glass and serve!
Want to play bartender yourself? Sierra Mist is thrilled to give away this entertaining hostess pack to one lucky winner (retail value: $110).
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The Problem With How We Think Of Surveillance 96
blastboy writes "Here's a great essay on Snowden, technology and the problem with how we think of surveillance. From the article: 'Why do we give them our data? For the same reason that prompted the protesters to pull out their phones amid a swirl of tear gas: digital channels are one of the easiest ways we have to talk to one another, and sometimes the only way. There are few things more powerful and rewarding than communicating with another person. It's not a coincidence that the harshest legal punishment short of the death penalty in modern states is solitary confinement. Humans are social animals; social interaction is at our core. Yet the more we connect to each other online, the more our actions become visible to governments and corporations. It feels like a loss of independence. But as I stood in Gezi Park, I saw how digital communication had become a form of organization. I saw it enable dissent, discord, and protest.'"


text: swainzy 17 Posted July 28, 2008 Saw this article in the news this morning. Mountain View, CA (AHN) - A group of former Google engineers Monday unveiled a new search engine they hope will challenge the Internet giant's supremacy. Cuil, (pronounced "cool"), takes a different tack than previous threats to Google. Instead of concentrating on links to Web pages, Cuil focuses on a Web page's actual content. The venture-financed search engine also presents the data in a different manner - a horizontal layout that includes images rather than Google's low-key plain text displayed vertical. Wonder how this will go over. What will they do that G is not doing. Here's one difference: Privacy is another area the four founding engineers hope will differentiate Cuil. The search engine won't hold onto search histories, unlike Google. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites


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Did the price come down? Here's Scot Gregor:
Adam Dunn for Carlos Quentin? Dunn for Gordon Beckham? No chance and never.
On Sunday, a source told me the Nationals might be willing to settle for rookie third baseman Dayan Viciedo and a couple of prospects for Dunn, the Washington Nationals' power-hitting first baseman.


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Redskins QB John Beck Unrecognized and Turned Away At Redskins Park
I have a feeling that this might be happening often for the next month until personnel and players get to know each other. Redskins quarterback John Beck showed up to Redskins Park Monday only to be turned away after a security guard didn't recognize him.
Mike Jones of the Washington Post was the first to report the incident:
He was turned away at the security gate by a guard, who didn't even know who he was. Beck was told that players can't report until Tuesday morning, and left slightly disappointed, but not offended.
"I'm OK with that," Beck said of not being recognized when reached this afternoon. "I haven't done anything yet."
I'm not sure if I can blame the security guard for not recognizing Beck. He's not easily identifiable, plus he wasn't suppose to be there until Tuesday. Sounds like Beck was confused.
Beck was drafted in the second round of the 2007 draft by the Miami Dolphins and compiled a dismal 0-4 record as a starter for the team, being unable to beat out Chad Henne, Chad Pennington, or Cleo Lemon for the top spot. He spent 2009 with the Baltimore Ravens but didn't get on the field the entire season.
After reports of Donovan McNabb being traded out of Washington, D.C., I hope Mike Shanahan has another quarterback in mind or some Space Jam juice to transform John Beck and Rex Grossman into starting quarterbacks. If not, the nation's capital is in for one LONG season.


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By Jack Fertig
James Franco turns 32 on Tuesday. The actor has won the hearts of gay audiences with his work in movies like Milk and Howl as well as going drag for the cover of Candy magazine. And while he was panned for his lackadaiscal hosting at this year's Oscars, isn't that what we love about him? Such a glorious rebel.
Mercury turning direct while conjunct Mars in Aries will open up daring, impulsive ideas. Both planets are opposing Saturn in Libra so those ideas are sure to hit walls of critical feedback. Work with that! Those fiery notions need discipline and real-world testing.
ARIES Mar 20-Apr 19
Take care of yourself first, so you can be in service to those around you who need help. When you're clear on who you are, you can be the most generous star in the sky.
TAURUS Apr 20-May 20
Think about your last will and testament as an exercise in who and what is important. When you're gone, what will be left? The real question: What do you want to achieve before then?
GEMINI May 21-Jun 20
Your social goals are clearer than your personal ambitions. Feeling vague about your career signals a transition that leads to greater clarity. Talk about it with your friends for help.
CANCER Jun 21-Jul 22
Work and accomplishment are keys to fulfillment. A personal best is more meaningful than competition. Share work and credit to get more done and learn from others how to do a better job.
LEO Jul 23-Aug 22
Be as loud and outspoken as you like. If that gets you into arguments, treat them as a game. Playfulness is sexier than conquest, although you don't need help in that department either.
VIRGO Aug 23-Sep 22
An erotic competition with your lover helps you come together in more ways than one. Sharing ideas, even if you don't act on them, can build intimacy, laying the foundation of a happy home.
LIBRA Sep 23-Oct 22
Be clear about whom you're competing with and competing against. Empathizing with colleagues helps, but clear verbal communication is more reliable than warm, fuzzy feelings.
SCORPIO Oct 23-Nov 21
Take responsibility for boosting morale at work. Small competitive games bring people together. Reevaluate your health regimen. You're out for a personal best, not to outdo others.
SAGITTARIUS Nov 22-Dec 20
Push for your best performance but trying to best others is secondary. If that becomes your goal you can cause rancor among people in your family or community.
CAPRICORN Dec 21-Jan 19
Empathetic communication diffuses a lot of the trouble. Practical techniques, sensible logic and the "tried and true" aren't really helping. Trust more in your intuition.
AQUARIUS Jan 20-Feb 18
If being more clever than your friends is important, you need new friends — or maybe they do. Who really does count in your life and why? Tell them — not for their sake, but for your own.
PISCES Feb 19-Mar 19
Sweetness and empathy are your best traits when they're not a cover for codependency. Cultivate traits that drive you to success. If you want to help others, do it from a position of strength.
Jack Fertig can be reached at 415-864-8302 or Starjack.com
This article appeared in the Dallas Voice print edition April 15, 2011.


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from http://lwn.net/Articles/145194/ [lwn.net]File integrity checking is built into the basic lookup mechanism, so that corruption will be detected automatically
md5sum *.pdf > sums
md5sum -c sums
Not exactly automated, but I wouldn't exactly call typing 2 lines to be manual labor; and once you've got the sums you really just need the second line.
That assumes that all the PDF's start out valid, and will never be validly changed. What you really want is something like just using ghostscript to render each PDF to a temporary image, and then an automated check to make sure the image isn't 100% blank. (Or, just accepting the result if ghostscript doesn't exit with an
Many are commenting on using checksums (MD5, SHA,
I was going to post exactly this. Files randomly becoming corrupted? Maybe if I had 5,000 Chinese kids remembering numbers, but data shouldn't just change on a computer, whether it's over the wire, on disk, or in memory. Treat the disease, not the symptom.
If you've got files on your computer that you only read, never write, and those files are getting corrupted, then it sounds like you have a problem with your filesystem, or a problem with your hardware. You need to find and fix the problem with the filesystem or hardware, not apply band-aids to PDF files if the problem has nothing to do with the PDF format per se.
Another possibility would be that you're using buggy software that is supposed to open PDF files in read-only mode, but actually corrupts them.
The best book on programming for the layman is "Alice in Wonderland"; but that's because it's the best book on anything for the layman.


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Class: Freshman
Hometown: Vicksburg, MS
High School: Warren Central
Height/Weight: 6'0'' 225
Position(s): 3B/1B
Bats/Throws: R/R
While at Warren Central, Carlos earned All District his junior and senior seasons. He also earned All State his senior year and was a North/South All-Star selection.
- Son of Carlos and Mary Gonzalez
- Has two siblings, Ingrid and Jenny
- Plans to major in Business Management
- Born on December 9, 1992
- Enjoys spending time with his son, fishing, relaxing, and hanging out with friends


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Sources were scrutinized to determine if they were considered of sufficient quality to warrant their use to support the matters they discussed. Use of substandard sources was a basis for work being graded less than stellar.
The Internet, with its various search engines, has changed all that. Now, anyone with a computer, a keyboard and Internet access can search and find "sources" for any topic imaginable. Earlier in its existence, the Internet produced much better sources for random subjects than it does now. In today's world, the Internet searches are driven primarily by economic standing among listings, never quality of material cited. Consequently, many readers and researchers do not really understand the difference between a good source and some off the wall nonsense some random person published online.
There lies the rub. It appears from many online discussions on social media and message boards that many do not appreciate the difference between good sources and bad ones. Instead, it appears that many seek anything printed which agrees with their point of view. There's a term for that. It's called "confirmation bias." Simply put, people tend to look for sources which support their point on view on their topic.
Whether the topic at hand is religion, politics, sports, or entertainment, people flock to sources which support the point of view they champion. We seek and find things that seem to support our position. Unfortunately, confirmation bias leads to the use of specious sources which would have been harshly dismissed in the pre-Internet era. No, the unsupported conclusions of Bryce writing a blog in Boise, Idaho cannot be used to support an argument.
Distinguishing between good and bad sources is one of the roles of education. Teachers teach the difference between good sources and questionable ones. At the college level, professors do likewise. But realistically, the general dumbing down of studious pursuits has rendered the typical writings at the high school and college level substandard compared to pre-Internet efforts.
Simply put, students are too often given good grades for writing papers which lack proper syntax, proper sources, and proper composition skills. Writing well is not given the priority it once was.
The Internet has made everyone an instant researcher. Bring up any topic, and smart phones will immediately be consulted for sources on the topic at hand. A perusal of the first located sources will become the Rosetta Stone for gleaning the meaning of the topic under discussion. This used to be called "the blind leading the blind."
Certainly, there are peer reviewed materials which provide meaningful insights to the topics they cover, but those are seldom brought up by general search engines. The latter favor the sites which garner the most traffic, not the sites with produce the best sources. The answer to dumbing down is not smart phones, but smarter people.
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The Phoenixville winter track boys compete in the Track and Field Coaches Association of Greater Philadelphia (TFCAofGP) while the girls compete in the delaware Valley Girls Track Coaches Association (DVGTCA) meets.
The boys division is divided into two divisions - one for larger and one for small schools. Phoenixville is in Division II for small schools. Small schools means fewer than 500 boys from 10th to 12th grade so it is not all that small. There are about 50 schools from Southeastern Pennsylvania in Phoenixville�s division (suburan public and private schools, Philadelphia Public League and Catholic League schools as well as charter schools).
The girls association is even larger since it is not divided into divisions. There are about 100 schools in the girls assocation.
In the boys meets, medals are awarded to the first five places while medals are awarded to the top six places in the girls meets. In any event, it is quite an accomplishment to come home with a medal from either meet, considering the number of schools entered any given event and the quality of the competition. Athletes can also qualify in these meets for the association championship meet (boys and girls Meet of Champions) and/or the Pennsylvania Indoor sTate Championship Meet based on certain qualifying standards.
The Phantoms� boys 4x800 meter relay qualified in this first meet for the boys Meet of Champions to be held at Lehigh University in February.
The boys meet was held Saturday afternoon on Dec. 8.
In the 4x800 relay, Saybrim Medina, MacKenzie Thomas, Matt Chiappetta and Ryan Marks were clocked at 8:50.74 Fully Automatic Timing (FAT) for second place and silver medals.
�This was a good, strong effort by all four boys,� said Phoenixville coach Jack Kraynak. �Saybrim and MacKenzie (both juniors) are very good 400-mete erunners moving up to the 80 for the first time this year. Both did a nice job in their first 800. Matt (junior) and Ryan (senior) are experienced middle distance runners coming off a nice cross country season. These boys along with seniors Xavier Knight and Tyler Timmins give us the potential to have a very strong 4x400 meter relay this season as well.�
Kraynak said Marks, Chiappetta, Knight and Timmins are also doing a nice job of providing leadership as team captains for the Phantoms� very young squad this year.
In the 400-meter dash, Knight ran a 56.07 for 11th place out of 38 runners. In the 800, Steve Rakoczy ran a 2:42.24. In the 3,000-meter run, senior Jack Reed ran an 11:52.80.
In the distance medley relay, Sean McGinnis (freshman, 1200 meters), Galen Rogers (junior, 400 meters), Jeff Miller (senior, 800) and Adam Yosua (junior, 1600) ran a 12:27.63, which included personal best splits by all four runners.
In the 4x200 meter relay, freshmen Andrew Tran, Eric Teunissen and Brandon Chang and sophomore Brett Tillatson ran a 1:54.17.
�This was a nice job by a young relay team with all of them in theri first season of winter track,� said Kraynak.
In the novice 4x400 meter relay, Liam Darcy, Mike Shaw, Aaron Westerman and Eddie Sanchez ran a 4:16.2 for 10th place out of some 30 teams. All four boys are freshmen.
In the shot put, sophomore Garrett Rogers had a distance of 32-11 1/2 for a personal best.
In the 4x800 meter erlay, senior Amy Kowalick, sophomore Lilly Jennings, junior Fiona Halloran and junior Jackie Tucker ran an 11:09.60 for fourth in their heat and 30th out of about 60 teams overall.
�These are good early season splits by all four girls,� said Kraynak. �Also, Amy and Jackie are doing a very nice job as team captains for the girls this year.�
In the 800-meter run, sophomore Maddie Wiler ran a 2:54.41, which was a personal best indoor time. In the triple jump, sophomore Bridget Walt had a distance of 29-7 for a personal best indoor jump.


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From NBC's Athena Jones
It was a festive atmosphere on the White House North Portico on Wednesday morning for the president's annual Thanksgiving turkey pardon.
Despite the drizzle, dozens of press joined dozens of guests and White House staffers to witness President Obama pardon a 45-pound turkey dubbed Courage, from Goldsboro, NC. Courage will soon head to Dulles Airport for a flight to California where he will be the grand marshal of tomorrow's Thanksgiving Day Parade at Disneyland.
"You know, there are certain days that remind me of why I ran for this office and then there are moments like this where I pardon a turkey and send it to Disneyland," the president said to laughter.
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"When President Lincoln set aside the National Day of Thanksgiving for the first time -- to celebrate America's 'fruitful fields,' 'healthful skies,' and the 'strength and vigor' of the American people -- it was in the midst of the Civil War, just when the future of our very union was most in doubt," Obama said.
"So think about that," he continued. "When times were darkest, President Lincoln understood that our American blessings shined brighter than ever. This is an era of new perils and new hardships. But we are, as ever, a people of endless compassion, boundless ingenuity, limitless strength."
Obama said he was thankful for the responsibility the American people have placed in him and wished a Happy Thanksgiving to every American and to to every service member at home or in harm's way.
Full of jokes, at one point the president said he and his family had "saved or created four turkeys" by pardoning Courage and an alternate turkey called Carolina and by donating two others to Martha's Table, an organization that helps the needy in Washington. The joke was a reference to the administration's promise that the $787 billion stimulus package would "save or create" millions of jobs.
The First Family will celebrate the holiday weekend here in Washington, DC, with the official White House Christmas Tree to be delivered on Friday, an 18-and-a-half foot Douglas fir from Shepherdstown, WV. It will arrive on the traditional horse-drawn carriage to the North Portico and will be on display in the Blue Room throughout the holiday season, according to the White House.


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On super-sized Episode #4 of "We Love Soaps Radio," Newcomb, Jacobs and Goldberg share their thoughts on the latest hot topics and news from around the soap world and welcome very special guest Harding Lemay.
Episode #4 includes:
- An in depth interview with Emmy winning former ANOTHER WORLD writer Harding Lemay where he talks about historical soap figures like Paul Rauch, Irna Phillips, Doug Marland and comments on some of the latest soap controversies like the Chris Engen situation or Noah burning the Purple Heart on ATWT
- CHICAGO TO CORONADO's Vanessa Shoemaker discusses the first Twitter soap in our "Indie Soap Beat" segment
- The hosts debate SOAPnet: Business versus Art
- Hot topics from all the daytime soaps including the new characters, Otalia, Spixie, Todd/Blair vs Todd/Tea and much more
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Dave Brock has stepped into a favorable situation as Delaware's new head football coach.
Not only do the Blue Hens have a long history of success, they return 18 starters next season.
Just by posting a winning record, Brock will have improved on this past season's 5-6 record.
But, really, that goal isn't enough for a program steeped in tradition.
The Blue Hens believe they will do more than turn around the losing record in former coach K.C. Keeler's final season. The first season of a new head coach tends to bring out extra energy in a team looking to prove itself again. And, of course, the returning talent is too good to deny.
With running back Andrew Pierce, the school's No. 3 all-time leading rusher, quarterback Trent Hurley, defensive tackle Zach Kerr and linebacker Jeff Williams leading the veteran roster, they expect to contend for the conference championship in what should be a deep Colonial Athletic Association race, and get back to the FCS playoffs following a two-year absence.
"Coach Keeler did a great job. I'm confident that we have the building blocks in place to win in 2013, and forward," Brock said at his introductory news conference last Friday.
A quick turnaround is a goal shared by some other FCS programs that are accustomed to winning but suffered through losing records last season. Twelve programs entered the season with a winning record in at least seven straight years, and four fell by the wayside: Holy Cross, Montana, Northern Iowa and South Carolina State.
Expect Montana and Northern Iowa to have quick fixes on the field in 2013.
Around Montana, though, people are still holding their breath over potential fallout from NCAA and U.S. government investigations into how the school's athletic department has handled reports of rape and sexual assault in recent years. Sanctions are possible, and the Grizzlies already are trying to climb out of their first losing season - a 5-6 record - since 1985.
Second-year coach Mick Delaney will have a stout defense, including All- America linebacker Jordan Tripp and defensive end Zach Wagenmann, to try to get Montana back on track. The offense will still look to beat up opponents with its running game.
Northern Iowa simply will be better by scheduling a little smarter. This past September's schedule basically defied the Panthers not to finish 1-4, and they didn't in their 5-6 season - the program's first losing campaign since 2002.
Coach Mark Farley already has early season dates against Drake and Northern Colorado to fill half of next season's non-conference schedule, so that will prevent the same slow start. Plus, he gets to put the ball in the hands of running back David Johnson and quarterback Sawyer Kollmorgen.
Holy Cross slumped to 2-9, but that had a lot to do with opponents whose cumulative record was 75-47, including eight with a winning mark. Junior-to-be quarterbacks Steven Elder and Ryan Laughlin will have to settle in for coach Tom Gilmore as the Patriot League squad tries to reverse its losing record. The Crusaders have an 80-catch wide receiver in Mike Fess.
The FCS's two historically black conferences - the MEAC and the SWAC - also had their share of surprises this past season, some not so good.
South Carolina State hopes to get back to MEAC title contention, having dominated in the conference under coach Buddy Pough. This past year's 5-6 record was Pough's first below .500 in 11 seasons with the Bulldogs and the program's first losing mark since 2000.
They had a youthful defense and return quarterback Richard Cue, who must cut down on turnovers, and leading rusher Jalen Simmons. Expect success again.
One of the biggest puzzles in the FCS this past season was Grambling State, which went from being the 2011 SWAC champion to finishing 1-10 in Doug Williams' second season of his second stint as head coach. Their only win was against Virginia-Lynchburg and no Tigers player earned an All-SWAC honor.
Williams' son D.J. will return for his junior season at quarterback next season, but Grambling will need improvement across the board to get back on the winning track.


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To each their own, but I like a low maintenance device that simply works and works well, that's not made of plastic and that bleeds of cutting edge engineering. The iPhone will still fit nicely in a pocket and has everything I need. I don't need to tell someone that my screen is 0.5" bigger than his.
I think iPhone is like sleek, well integrated premium product....like a Dwight Freeney in his prime! Samsung seems to take the bigger, faster specs approach but I don't think the Samsung/Android platform performs better on a daily basis for the things I use my phone for....it's like the Vernon Gholston of phones....the numbers, size and specs look great, but it doesn't get the overall job done as well iPhone for me. Again, just one man's opinion. (And I'm not an Apple fanboy...I don't and have never owned a Mac to this point)
One pro I see to moving to an Iphone is I can consolidate my iPod and phone into one device, leveraging iCloud, which for travel and working out is a big benefit.
Im currently an android user, and very happy with it, but my contract is up in less than a month, so Im exploring options, and pretty obviously, Im down to the Samsung vs an iPhone - and i may not go with the 5 tbh, I dont need the latest and greatest if there's a significant financial difference.
Posting from the iPhone 5 now, it's incredibly fast. Lighter, thinner, too but it's the speed that blows you away right off the bat.
Meh. I'm bored with ios. Thinking lumia 920, htc one x+, or galaxy note 2.
The only phone I can get for free right now...is the phone I already have.
Modz can we haz an Official Hampur "What a good phone for taking photos of my genitals/sexting/making calls?" Phone Thread?


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Your optimal professional path culminates at the intersection of your strongest abilities and your most passionate interests. Having successfully completed your first year of law school, you are likely beginning to find your passions- or at least rule some out. Now is the time to focus these interests and build the related expertise that will enable you to take the first steps along your career path.
Determine Your Path
Revisit the self-assessment you conducted last year. Have any of your goals or priorities change? What additional information have you learned about yourself or the practice of law that influences your career objectives? What have you done in the past year to advance toward your employment goals? What will you do this year? Continual re-evaluation of your abilities and values will keep you on the most direct path to accomplish your goals.
Understand Your Market
Even the most passionate and qualified student will struggle to find employment if she does not understand the needs and priorities of potential employers. The Career Center, and the greater Duke Law community, provide abundant resources to help you familiarize yourself with the realities of practice and determine your personal best entrance to the legal profession. For more information, review the resources assembled below and attend the many panels and networking events hosted at the Law School each year to meet and speak with practicing attorneys in a variety of specialties.
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Guinness will be the beer of choice for many this weekend. Saint Patrick's Day is Sunday, and big crowds are expected at local bars.
At Claddagh Irish Pub in the Eastwood Towne Center, they're already preparing for the large crowds that will come to the pub searching for corned beef and beer.


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Joey C Cap Giveaway- Hat #1 Sox 04 World Champion Fitted Mesh Cap With Tag On It
After cleaning out my closet last week and using the rule if it hadn't been worn in 2 years it gets thrown out I went through my cap collection and will be giving one a day away to someone who likes this post on Facebook or tweets this post on twitter. At the end of the day I'll look on our Facebook Page- http://www.facebook.com/GoodMorningGloucester and my Twitter account @Joey_C and put all of those names in a hat and draw the name. Must pick up the cap here at the Dock- 95 East Main Street within a week. No shipping. Add @Joey_C to any tweet so that I get a notification that you tweeted it.


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UPDATE 6.25pm: Trains have been suspended between Wollongong and Port Kembla in both directions due to flooding.
Buses are now replacing trains between Wollongong and Port Kembla.
Minor delays may be experienced and customers should allow extra travel time.
Visit www.131500.com.au or call 131 500 for more information.
UPDATE 4.20PM: Heavy traffic conditions and delays are still being felt northbound on the Princes Highway at Batemans Bay and southbound at Oak Flats.
UPDATE 3.25pm: The Princes Highway and Moss Vale Road have both reopened following earlier incidents, but heavy holiday traffic is still causing some headaches.
Significant delays are still being experienced southbound on the Princes Highway near Lake Entrance Road despite a car accident there being cleared.
Drivers on Moss Vale Road are being urged to exercise caution following a landslide and a fallen tree that closed the road for several hours earlier today.Motorists can also expect heavy traffic northbound on the Princes Highway around Batemans Bay and also on Jervis Bay Rd at Vincentia.
UPDATE 1.30pm: Traffic is building on the Princes Highway due to a collision and the rain.
At Oak Flats, at the intersection of Lake Entrance Road and the Princes Highway, a car has rolled causing traffic to back up in southbound lanes.
Holiday traffic heading home from the South Coast has also slowed northbound as drivers observe the scene.
Lake Illawarra police say no one was injured in the accident.
Traffic is also building in Albion Park as heavy rain reduces visibility.
There are no reports of flooding yet however, police advise Swamp Road Dunmore is likely to close this afternoon.
Meantime, Moss Vale Road at Kangaroo Valley is currently closed in both directions due to a fallen tree and an earlier landslide.
Police are on scene diverting traffic, with motorists advised to avoid the area and use the Illawarra or Kings Highway as an alternative route.
Police fear that heavy weather conditions will make today's holiday traffic much worse and are urging motorists to be cautious.
Today is expected to be one of the busiest on the roads, coming at the end of the Australia Day long weekend, as well as the end of the summer holidays.
Police are advising people to stay off the road, reconsider their travel plans and even delay their trips where possible.
Those motorists who do set out are advised to check on weather conditions and road closures before driving.
NSW SES Commissioner Murray Kear said drivers needed to exercise patience, drive to the conditions and never enter flood water.
"If you need emergency help in a flood or storm call the NSW SES on 132 500. If your situation is life-threatening call triple-0," he said.
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It will be interesting to see, as Ethan noted --- they seem to be aiming at a different and very specific kind of relationship now. Given that the last two games animated fairly well, it will be interesting to see how the PS3 carries those small things that go for miles.
This game is a system seller for me. Sure GoW III and Heavy Rain and all those other awesome games are coming out for the PS3, but the one that makes me need the system most is The Last Guardian. Hopefully it's at least as good as the last two games.
This game was a system seller for me. It's why I bought my PS3 a couple years ago. Of course backward compatibility is why I bought it at the time I did. Go 60 gigger.
While I (sadly) didn't play ICO, I played Shadow of the Colossus, and it quickly became one of my favorite PS2 games. They better not end the game in the expected (but no less sad) way that everyone thought at first. But, knowing Ueda, they will, and I will cry. If I did for Aggro, I will for....whatever that is.
"When the Dark Lord of the Sith offers you five, you give him five." - Ken Levine
i've never played any of these games but i'm gonna have to check out the last guardian perhaps simply off the hype. usually the hype is for good reason. don't let me down.
I never played Ico or Shadow of hte Colossus and really want to. Can't believe I missed those games last gen. : (
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I too bought a PS3 for this reason (also Ratchet & Clank and MGS4).
yeah i know...5 years seems like to much but i would wait twice that if it meant the game was that much better...
i'm still waiting for a release date. i've already pre-ordered mag(fully paid), and enough for one brand new game so i'm going with Demon's Soul but i would really hate to buy demon's soul only to find out the game is coming out soon.
hopefully(and it makes most sense) we'll know about its release a while before it comes out, really, what great game has ever had a surprise arrival? never hopefully cuz i'm poor lol.
how much do you guys wanna bet that this game isn't going to have the boy or the beast killed off? seems to obvious..
then again.. it might be one of those things where even though you expect it fully its just as powerful.
a game that can't be imagined or remembered perfectly is a truly great game in my opinion, they're something you can only experience.
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Even though the ending is inevitable I almost guarentee I'm going to be heart wrechetdly sad...like when I watched Marley and Me (I'm serious)
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I havent played the first two but Im dying for The Last Guardian. Its going to be a good game. A good game about friendship.
i love both ICO & SotC
i cannot wait for The Last Guardian
ICO = one of my favorite games of all time. im so stoked for this game. the screen-shots look beautiful.
where was it at e3?


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Review: Vogel's Ringo Universal Mounting System
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Shown off at the CEA Line Show in New York City, Vogel's Ringo Universal Mounting System for iPad 2 is just what it sounds like: a multi-piece mounting solution for Apple's latest tablet computer. Comparable in scope to other modular case systems we've seen, such as ModulR's Case, Vogel's implementation is heavier-duty, using rugged-feeling plastic and metal components instead of thinner materials and nylon. The core of the system is a shell called the Holder, available only in a Starter Pack ($60) along with the company's Wall Mount -- extras of the latter can be purchased separately for $30. We also tested an additional accessory called Car Mount ($60) for this review.
The core of the system is the black plastic, Smart Cover-compatible Holder. Like many shells, it snaps onto the back of the device, coming right up to but not covering the front edge. Instead of a flat back, however, there's a 1.5" to 2" circular depression in the center, roughly 1/4" deep and lined with metal. This opening is what allows the case to connect easily to circular Vogel's mounts that can be placed in a variety of locations, including the aforementioned Wall Mount and Car Mount. While the circular locking mechanism necessitates a thicker case, Vogel's made the most of what it had to work with. If you have one, the iPad Smart Cover attaches on the left side through an appropriately-sized opening along the edge. When using the holder, the video viewing angle is a bit precarious due to the thickness of the case, but everything else works as expected.
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Included with the Starter Pack is Wall Mount. This 1-1/4" tall metal cylinder comes with a rather long screw, as well as a bracket for secure installation on a wall. The rubber cap pulls off to reveal a centered hole in the plastic bottom for driving the screw. Two plastic hooks grasp the inside of the depression on the back of Holder. They hold it really securely, while also allowing the tablet to be rotated all the way around depending on how it's going to be used. It is a smart and clean implementation, limited only by its single method of installation and its lack of angle adjustments.
Car Mount is much sturdier than many of the similiary-purposed solutions we have seen in the past. Most simply have a strap that wraps around the posts of a front seat headrest, usually doubling back with Velcro. The model from Vogel's is a 9.5" long, 4" deep plastic block. On one end, there is a version of Wall Mount, now attached to a flexible hinge. A segment that runs the entire length of the accessory is removable on the other side. Pushing the slider on top activates a release, although a lock holds it in place when the Mount is flexed out straight. There are two small gaps between the halves; this is where the bars of the headrest fit. The two pieces fit back together and the iPad 2 snaps onto the mount. It feels very sturdy, and the adjustable neck allows for a variety of angles. We have no fear that it would come undone or even move around in bumpy conditions.
Though we haven't reviewed any of these items, we should also note that Vogel's offers Table Stand ($20), a simple kickstand-style accessory that allows for both portrait and landscape orientation use of the tablet. An extending arm called Flex Mount ($60) is set to be available by September, alongside Adhesive Mount ($30) —a version of Wall Mount without the need for a screw. As another complement to the set, the company has a free app called WallTimes for download in the App Store—a cute timer and clock system for use when the iPad's been wall-mounted.
The Ringo Universal Mounting System is certainly more expensive than other mounting system options we've tested, but the look and feel of the components are more impressive, as well. Apart from the top and bottom openings, we like Holder—covering those gaps up would bring the shell from good to great. Wall Mount and Car Mount also work very well, with the former excelling in its simple, clean looks and the latter taking an different but still successful approach. If you're willing to go all in on the home and car mounting packages, you'll likely be very happy with the result. Pricing is the biggest factor holding us back from a higher recommendation. At current levels, the set is worthy of a B and general recommendation.
Editors' Note: iLounge only reviews products in "final" form, but many companies now change their offerings - sometimes several times - after our reviews have been published. This iLounge article provides more information on this practice, known as revving.


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For more of this stupidity see Objective Ministries. At first glance any intelligent person would assume it was just an elaborate hoax and you will find many images from this site floating around the web on funny image sites often even labelled as troll pics because seriously, who the hell is capable of believing this stuff? Well, apparently Christians. if you go there you simply have to click through the Creation Science Fun Facts. Caution: You will definitely leave the site with a rather poor opinion of the people who believe this stuff, but on the positive side you will certainly come away feeling pretty damn good about yourself.


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ST. ALBANS — Neil Bean, 70, died in Temple, Texas, on July 18, 2009. He was born Feb. 1, 1939, in Ottawa, Ontario.
He is survived by his wife, Vergennes native Jeanne (Coyle) Bean; a son, Mark Bean of Florida; two daughters, Michelle Bister and her husband Sgt. 1st Class Peter Bister of Fort Hood, Texas, Laura Bean and her fiancé Joe Sherwood of Pittsford; three grandchildren and two great-grandchildren.
He was predeceased by his parents, Edward and Laura Bean.
He graduated from Bellows Academy in 1957. He served in the U.S. Navy, worked for CV Railroad and retired from GE as a machinist after 28 years. He worked for the Army Corp of Engineers the last 11 years.
He was an alderman in St. Albans and served on several committees.
A funeral will held be at St. Peter's Catholic Church in Vergennes, Tuesday, Aug. 11, at 11 a.m. Interment will follow at St. Peter's Cemetery.
CHARLOTTE, N.C. — Mortimer Foster Irwin, 86, died Aug. 4, 2009, at the White Oak Manor Nursing Home in Charlotte, N.C. He was a former Vergennes resident.
He served in the Marine Corps during World War II, then became a lifelong teacher and coach.
He is survived by his twin sisters, Diane M. Irwin of Charlotte, N.C., and Dawn I. Shaw of Leesburg, Va.
He was predeceased by his younger brother, Henry Irwin IV.
His ashes will be interred at the Congregational Church Cemetery in West Harland, Conn.
In lieu of flowers, donations may be made to the Bixby Memorial Library, 258 Main St., Vergennes, VT 05491.
PITTSFORD — Cleo Chester Stone, 74, died Wednesday, Aug. 5, 2009, at his home in Pittsford.
He was born in Brandon on Feb. 9, 1935, the son of Alson and Sadie (Whitney) Stone.
He received his education in local Brandon schools. Following his education he joined the Vermont National Guard, where he served as a cook.
He was an avid Red Sox fan. His family says he enjoyed reading, country music and watching old Westerns.
He is survived by two brothers, Alvin Stone of Whitehall, N.Y., and Eugene Stone of Faison, N.C.; two sisters, Militia Cram of Brandon and Myrtle Cram of Rutland; and many nieces, nephews and cousins.
He was predeceased by two sisters, Vera Cram and Arlene Stone.
The funeral service was held on Friday, Aug. 7, at the Miller & Ketcham Funeral Home in Brandon. The Rev. Richard White, pastor of the Brandon Congregational Church, officiated. A graveside committal service and burial followed in Pine Hill Cemetery.
Memorial gifts in lieu of flowers may be to the Rutland Area Visiting Nurse & Hospice, 7 Albert Cree Drive, Rutland, VT 05701.
ORWELL — Lorie Jean Barnes, 48, died Tuesday, July 28, 2009, at her home in Orwell.
She was born Dec. 4, 1960, in Middlebury, the daughter of George and Rita (Jabot) Patterson. She graduated from Fair Haven Union High School in 1978.
She married Robert Brian Barnes on Nov. 23, 1995, and they lived in Crawfordville, Fla. She worked for 12 years as a records specialist for the state of Florida.
She is survived by her husband Brian of Crawfordville, Fla.; two daughters, Rita Thomas and her husband Tony of Barwick, Ga., and Chris Holt of Barwick, Ga.; a son, Robby Barnes of Crawfordville, Fla.; two sisters, Shirley Hendricks and Ruth McGuire, both of Orwell; four brothers, Ken Patterson, Dave Patterson and Paul Patterson, all of Orwell, and Tom Patterson of Orlando, Fla.; two grandchildren; and many nieces, nephews and cousins.
She was predeceased by her parents, Rita and George Patterson of Orwell.
A private cremation service for the family will be held at a later date, with interment at Fern Lake in Leicester.
Memorial contributions in her name may be made to Addison County Home Health & Hospice, PO Box 754, Middlebury, VT 05753.


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If the police department, fire department, and libraries strove to make profits, would you be Ok with that too?
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You may note that the very next sentence detailed that I do have a problem with business models that equate profit with denying coverage.
The companies that supply the police and fire departments and the publishers that fill our libraries with books do work for-profit, and things seem to work perfectly well.
The problem is when the service provider itself is providing coverage as insurance - premiums are paid whether services are rendered or not, and so inevitably it is more profitable to deny services while continuing to accept premium payments. This is true of healthcare, and has historically been true when services like fire protection have been privatized.
Please try to read full paragraphs rather than attempting to quote-mine. I'm an absolute supporter of a single-payer, 100% tax-funded healthcare system like in Canada. Representing me as pro-private-healthcare would be factually incorrect.
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No Rhavin, there was no attempt to quote-mine, my question was simply a question. You might want to ask YOURSELF what's with the paranoia. Thanks for the false accusation though, it's such a delight communicating with you.
Oh brother. Yes Rhavin, asking ONE question "If the police department, fire department, and libraries strove to make profits, would you be Ok with that too?" is the same as representing you as a pro-private healthcare advocate.
Furthermore, I didn't ask you if you do have a problem with business models that equate profit with denying coverage. Err, thanks anyways, but here is my ACTUAL question, again:
"If the police department, fire department, and libraries strove to make profits, would you be Ok with that too?"
Your answer "I'm an absolute supporter of a single-payer, 100% tax-funded healthcare system like in Canada", seems to contrast your previous post "I don't have a problem with people making a profit." Thanks for the clarification.
[We already have death panels, they're called insurance companies]
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Yeah, and if I go back and work 2 more years I can qualify for full social benefits, retirement etc. ... so I may have a back door to get away from the disfunctional nut fraction.
The Tea Party makes the neo-cons look good by comparison, just as Scrubbia made Nixon look good ... (though his face still looks like a foot(1)).
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It was either a quote-mine, or an example of incapacity for reading comprehension. I've seen your ability to comprehend what you read, ergo I can only conclude the remaining option.
The logical conclusion of:
is that I would similarly have a problem with any other business model in which denying services, particularly socially necessary services like healthcare, police, and fire protection, would be directly correlated to profit.
Since you apparently need it spelled out directly:
YES, I would have a problem with for-profit fire, police, education, and other socially necessary services in which a for-profit business model would result in denial of insured services carrying larger profits.
It is, because it's blatantly obvious as a question one would only ask to a person who expressed support for a for-profit healthcare model. It's a question I've asked others many times for exactly the same reason.
The logical conclusion of for-profit fire, police, and education, dronester, is (get this):
A business model in which denial of socially necessary services directly correlates to higher profit. Denying coverage for cancer treatment while soaking up premiums = higher profit. Denying police protection while soaking up tax/private payment/whatever = higher profit. Denying a fire truck for an emergency fire call while taking revenue from "fire insurance" = higher profit. Fewer books at a library while accepting payment = higher profit.
Are you following me here, dronester?
This means that, again, we have two choices:
1) you read one sentence of my post and reacted without reading the rest, in effect quote-mining, or
No, it doesn't, not if you actually read my words. I was specifically pointing out the fact that mysteriously Big Pharma still seems to find selling medication to Canada and other single-payer nations to be a profitable exercise (else they simply wouldn't do it) while still guaranteeing no-cost-at-point-of-service medical coverage for all citizens based on need rather than income; and that therefore it's curious that we see so much vehement resistance to such programs here in the States.
Agreed completely.
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It's a very interesting phenomenon that normal individuals so easily buy in to voting expressly against their own interests.
I pay something like $700/month for just my share of my "employer-provided" healthcare for myself and my fiance (covered as a "domestic partner" until we get married), plus roughly an additional $150 in prescription medications, plus copays for doctor visits.
I would be more than happy to pay the exact same amount to the federal government instead of insurance companies so that a nation-wide public healthcare provider could then better negotiate prices on medication and services at a group rate 300+ million subscribers strong, and guarantee coverage to everyone on the basis of need alone. I'm rather tired of the percentage of my insurance premium that goes to administrative overhead, deciding whether to approve or deny claims, rather than giving coverage to the people who are sick.
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but you preachin to the choir, man.
I pay $1,250.00 a month and cannot afford to NOT have health insurance because of my incurable cancer with annual cat-scans that run over $5,000.00 at shot if you don't have coverage ... if I banked my premium and went "self-pay" for a year I would break even -- as long as the cancer did not come back.
So why not we organize all like minded people to form a non-profit organization\club\association that provides health care for all members (similar to AARP?). Get registered democrats, like minded libertarians and fiscal conservatives, small businesses etc to join ... maybe 100+ million strong and growing ...
Joining is voluntary, there is a monthly fee, but membership has privileges.
We don't need no steenken approval from TeaPee'ers and Evangelical GOPs, we meet the requirements of the Obama Care Plan for coverages.
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Best evidence, Nuggin. Where is the attribution on this statement?
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I agree that people like Palin are often over demonized.
But that statement by Nuggin seems correct.
Here she descibes it as "shout-out, gotcha":
quote:...and that is in a positive article supporting Palin (as you would expect from Fox).
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Let me categorically state that Palin says any question asked of her is a "gotcha" question.
Still, here's the article where she is claiming she was right about Paul Reverse including her "gotcha" complaint.
Here's a video of it:
Check out minute - 1:20
In fact, googling "palin" "revere" "gotcha" brings up literally dozens of reports.
Seems like before you demand this sort of evidence from me, you might want to use the same internet and type in less words to see if you can find it for yourself.
Unless of course you honestly don't think Palin bitches about "gotcha" media.
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Could you identify the contradiction you apparently see here?
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I did. Which is why I asked you if the story I found was the one you referred to, and asked for your source on her further statement.
But here is the main point of this exercise:
You relayed the story. It is up to you to provide the citations.
Just because this thread deals in politics and not science or religion does not mean the rules of evidence are suspended. As we are so fond of telling the creationists here, it is not up to me to go looking for your missing citations. It is incumbent upon you to provide them up front.
Worse than that.
Except for the fact that Palin turned out to be substantially correct in her Revere story, she did later, after the blow-up with an apparently equally clueless media, refer to the "Boston" question as a "gotcha." Which is surprising since it was not a "gotcha" question and she answered it well enough. I think she got confused after the inane media blow-up about her answer.
Frankly, if she can become that confused over something this plain then this is another indicator that she is well outside her league.
But, in the end, you have made your point, finally, with evidence, and I accept that.
I hope I have made mine.
Now to continue:
I think you are going to have a hard time showing this one.
Any question? As each and every question anyone would ask of her? Really?
Prove it.
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Indeed it does. And with someone like Sarah it fits. But that wasn't the point. Was it, in fact, correct?
Like religion and evolution, politics is fraught with emotion to the point where people will take anything that fits their negative view of an opponent as fact whether it is or not.
After some nugging ... eh ... nudging, Nuggin provided the required evidence. Good for him.
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Do you have citations to show that we are "fond of telling creationists"? Or am I supposed to take your word for it simply because it's common knowledge.
It seems to me that you could just as easily ask "prove to me that it was Sarah Palin who was in Boston" or "provide citations explaining who Sarah Palin is"
We're talking about an event that was national news for weeks.
At some point it falls on the reader to be at least up enough on the topic to participate.
I don't think she "got" confused. She's in a perpetual state of confusion.
Her complaint about the Katie Couric interview was also "gotcha journalism".
The questions in particular:
Here's a link to a wiki page explaining who "Katie Couric" is
Here's a link a page explaining what a "wiki page" is
Here's a link explaining what a link is
Palin was running for VICE PRESIDENT behind a man who has had all three kinds of skin cancer and is considerably older than most people who get elected to the position.
It is not unreasonable to expect the VP nom to be able to name what newspapers she reads, nor for her to know the name of the foreign policy which had guided the country into two ongoing wars.
These are _soft ball_ questions.
Nah. I've provided you with more than enough links for today.
Maybe if you demonstrate sufficient understanding of the links provided we can move on.
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