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Seems like a fair trade.
So we give up something we've had for years, and in exchange we get to keep something we've had for years? And what happens when they come back in five years saying Net Neutrality is just too much of a burden? What do we give up in ransom next?
You guys in the US have had net neutrality for years? News to me. I thought you had this watered down thing where the ISP's along with major peers were giving the thin veneer of that, while saying they're not shaping traffic while slapping in sandvine boxes all the while. I know that it's what Rogers, Bell and Telus were doing in Canada for quite awhile until the CRTC, Industry Canada and the Feds smacked them around.
As a network administrator, I can guarantee you that traffic shaping *is* necessary.
Just like in "real life" you drive at a certain speed, and traffic lights decide which cars pass and which ones have to wait.
Just like in "real life" certain vehicles have priority above all (ambulances).
Expecting a fully unregulated internet is dumb. No matter how much capacity you can add to YOUR network, there will still be a bottleneck somewhere. And you really don't want ICMP queueing up at that point, or Bad Things® happen.
And you really don't want SMTP to have the same priority as HTTP. You really don't need that email to arrive in a second. It can take 10, 20, 30 seconds. It can take a minute, and that's OK. But your web browsing can't wait 10, 20, 30 seconds.
Let's not be fools. Traffic shaping IS a need. I get where you're coming from (priorizing one company over another) but it's silly to think it should be completely unrestricted. Real life isn't. Why should the internet be?
Couple things:
1. Traffic Shaping *CAN* be done in a Network Neutral way. If all RTP traffic is higher than all SMTP traffic (regardless if the RTP traffic is from my house to a friend and the SMTP traffic is from Comcast), then you have preserved NETWORK (not traffic) neutrality. I think this is acceptable to most people that support Network Neutrality.
2. Traffic Shaping should only be used in bursts. If you are using it for hours at a time, BUY MORE CAPACITY. I've yet to see any shaping that works as well as more capacity.
In other words, if your ISP is saturated every night between suppertime and bedtime, they need more capacity.
If they use shaping to make sure a sudden burst of downloads for the latest Apple iOS updates don't impact VoIP and Video RTP for their customers, that is a good thing.
The difference is you are using traffic shaping to make your network work better. The major ISPs want to use traffic shaping to make the network work worse. (in order to extract money from content providers.)
The problem with your suggestion is that, like every other American, you have no fucking idea what true network neutrality looks like or how to implement it. What you would ask for, and if you got it what the rest of us would then have to endure, would NOT be network neutrality. One election cycle is all it would take to whisk away the facade and return us to business as usual.
If you are going to get Rid of POTS what we really need more then Net Neutrality is to be sure we have an infrastructure for its replacement.
AKA make sure everyone has access to fiber before you get rid of pots.
Nearly every American household has a phone line to their home, even if they don't use it it is there. However most people do not have a fiber optic connection to their home, and Wireless is very spotty.
Get us connectivity with a choice of carriers then we can talk Net Neutrality.
That's not a bad idea. I don't know if you meant truly universal, or "full coverage in the affected area". I think it would be fine to allow an experiment in a town that has had the POTS infrastructure already wiped out, if the town has at least two competing VoIP or wireless carriers with full coverage in the town.
If it works okay in the town that had already lost POTS due to the hurricane, the same policy could be tried elsewhere. The phone company could drop POTS service in the county only if that leav
The problem is the people outside of town. It's easy to have a cell tower or 2 in the centre of town but to have multiple towers will mean eating into their profits.
I suspect in certain areas that would indeed be costly for the telco. They'd have to balance that cost against the cost of laying and maintaining copper if they had to cover the entire county. Would they rather keep providing copper to the whole county, or switch to providing fiber or wireless to the county? Either way, the entire county has service.
A big thing is that they don't get to define 'coverage'. Too many areas they claim are covered have terrible and unreliable service. To be covered, it needs to have x signal strength INSIDE each and every home all the time. No dropped calls at all, and no drop outs.
In other words, it needs to be at least as good as properly maintained copper. That also means they will need to have several days of backup power at each cell tower.
And since it costs a lot less than POTS to install and maintain, we expect it to cost less than POTS service. Note that in many areas they will need a low cost voice only unlimited minutes for a flat fee rate.
I'm in a big sparse country so not quite the same as the States but if I lost my land line I'd be out of contact. No cell service as I'm 40 miles outside of a city that including suburbs only has a million and half people and internet comes over that land line at a whole 3KB/s. Satellites are behind mountains and trees and lots of rain as well.
With carriers having overcharged over 300 billion [newnetworks.com] who is then on the hook if there are no more landline companies? Of course telcom giants want people only on wireless, Verizon has been selling off their landline business for years.
I wonder if this means other companies can move into these abandoned areas without the ILEC screaming like crazy?
No, the ILEC's won't scream. And no, no other companies will move in. Once all are converted to wireless, POTS will be forbidden by law
Only a couple of conditions:
1. All government services must be accessible at no cost via a method which is guaranteed to be available to any person. IOW if landline phone service isn't required to be universal then all government offices must have in-person hours and be staffed at a level sufficient to get everyone who shows up on any given day served before the office closes, or all services must be available via mail (postage pre-paid). Online-only services are not allowed, since the government isn't guaranteeing that everyone will receive Internet access. Phone-only services are not allowed since the government isn't guaranteeing everyone will receive cel phone service. Online-only or phone-only would only be allowed if the government mandated that everyone would be able to receive either Internet access or cel-phone service regardless of location. Which the service providers won't go for, since their whole goal is to avoid being legally required to provide service in unprofitable areas.
2. Any person must be able to get basic (local calling and 911 service) phone service at any address, regardless of where that address is, upon request at no more than the previous cost of equivalent landline service. Whether it be via cel or VOIP, the service must be available. Note that this doesn't completely get around requirement #1, since the basic service isn't guaranteed to provide access to government numbers. To the extent that it does, it would satisfy #1.
1 can never be adequately satisfied unless the phone company wants to be Oprah and give everyone a car. Even then, it's a bit of a problem to go to the police in person if someone is attempting to break in to your home.
we use daily. Why throw it away?
Because most of us don't actually use it daily, or weekly, or monthly. I haven't had a landline in over ten years, including both my work and home phone numbers (my workplace uses VoIP).
I would say a first step is that the requirement be loosened such that the so-called POTS should be sufficient, but not necessary, to meet the requirements. The alternatives that could replace the POTS should not require an unreasonable sacrifice compared to keeping the POTS.
If you can come up with a reason that it's unrea
Trouble is your broadband typically relies on pots to work, cable tv providers don't reach everybody even in cabled area's.
I live in an area where there is never going to be cable tv its uneconomic for them to lay cable this far out. DSL via the phone line is also not possible due to distance from the exchange and 3g barely works.
Cell service is adequate for text messaging but making voice calls is tricky you have to be in precisely the right place for you and the person you are talking too to hear each o
Because it works well (especially in emergencies) but isn't a cash cow.
Because those running modern industries are intimidated by the simplicity and reliability of the services that came before.
...these supercarriers need to be advised that any service they plan on replacing POTS with, will fall under common carrier regulation, and they will need to get approval from state regulatory boards for price modifications, service level changes, and the like. Under Common Carrier regulation, they will have to open up their service offerings to competitors at the same rates they charge their internal providers, i.e. their Internet Service capability will have to be available to companies like NetZero, at the same rates that they charge their own internal ISP organization.
They will also be obligated to build out their infrastructure to provide universal access to provide coverage to every customer they pull POTS services from. That's not to say that they can't make hybrid service available, where they provide some form of a wireless trunk to an equipment stack outside of town that provides local distribution in the same area that they already do this for with POTS. Essentially they will replace T1 trunk hardware at those remote vaults with a wireless T1 system, and presumably none of the customers would be the wiser.
Note, I don't expect that this is how things will play out, just how I think it should. I'm biased, as I am a customer who's worked in the telecom industry.
I think we should probably be keeping that POTS system around, maintained and such. You just never know. We might need it for something!
what the industry now calls POTS
It's been called POTS for at least 20 years. Sheesh, kids these days
I will fight to keep POTS as long as you prevent all unlicensed use of select short-wave radio bands.
wait, what's the connection here? what bands?
I'm in Silicon Valley, and cellular just doesn't work very well. At least not Sprint's CDMA network.
At home, I have to go to a window to get one or two bars, because the local community association doesn't want a cell tower nearby. I have a Sprint Airave box, which gives me a femtocell which mooches bandwidth from my IP connection. This gets me VoIP quality at cellular prices. If I lose Internet connectivity, I lose cellular connectivity. The Airave box is badly programmed; when it loses IP connectivity it still captures local handsets and insists it's the best path to the network. You have to disconnect its power to reach a cell tower instead.
At TechShop Menlo Park, which is adjacent to a major freeway, I have to get near a window to get coverage. I'm not sure why there's a coverage hole there.
For a long time, there was no Sprint coverage on the Stanford campus, because Stanford had an exclusive deal with AT&T.
I was in San Jose recently, near PayPal HQ, and couldn't get Sprint connectivity until I drove up to a closed Sprint store. They have a femtocell so their demos work, and just outside the store, there was good connectivity.
Even when it works, cellular voice quality sucks. Sprint finally seems to have fixed their delay problem, though. For a while I was getting delays as long as a second, with delayed echoes coming back, like some low-end VoIP system.
The land line works great. Voice quality is very good, because it's only about 150 feet of copper to the big underground AT&T vault (the size of a shipping container, air conditioned, and full of racks of gear) out at the street. But there are no cellular antennas at that location; it's all wires and fiber.
stop using sprint, DUH
At TechShop Menlo Park, which is adjacent to a major freeway, I have to get near a window to get coverage. I'm not sure why there's a coverage hole there.
Chances are, it's a steel-frame building. Which is probably the next best thing to a Faraday cage, plus whatever echoes and distortions the interior structure contributes. Then there's the questionable radio transparency of concrete floors and walls at cell frequencies.
It's when you're outside and the coverage is crap that your should be concerned/annoyed.
If interior coverage was that important to the company, I'm sure that they could arrange it.
You're forgetting the windows. Chances are that the windows are also coated in a thin metallic film (intended to reflect IR) to either keep heat out or in.
Can see that easily at my parents home - as long as the glass door to the garden is open, their handheld has a connection to the base station. Glass door is shut - connection to the base station is lost.
POT is a constitutionally protected privacy interest. The airwaves are not.
They want to be able to sell you wireless, internet, etc, etc. But if you look around, they're not going to let you out the door for anything less than $100 a month anymore.
I had a client trying to figure out why AT&T was charging her $400/month for 2 "business" POTS lines. They told her she could reduce her bill to $150 if she took 2 POTS lines and a DSL connection. She already had Comcast cable and a Comcast phone line. Adding 2 lines to the Comcast plan would have cost $70 (the first 3 lines are usually the most expensive). But damn if that AT&T person didn't try the hard sell!
Basically this is about shedding regulatory obligations and pumping the public for even MORE money. Make no mistake.
They're still not promising universal coverage, coverage in underserved areas, higher speeds, etc. They're basically just trying to force the customers into paying more without the government coming down on them like a ton of baked shit bricks.
It's easy to say it's just the phone company pushing it but here in Norway there used to be 2.6 million land lines (PSTN/ISDN). In the last statistics (H1 2013) there's less than 600.000 and the trend has been >10% reduction each year, so probably less than 550.000 right now. Fiber and cable are growing, xDSL is dropping the moment people get alternatives. Practically everybody already have a cell phone and would never consider dropping it, so price wise you can be on the cell phone forever before you br
AT&T and Verizon have been abandoning rural phone for years now. They sell their rural territories and invest in metropolitan areas because there's less expense in metropolitan areas. The same equipment that serves 100 people in a rural area serves 10,000 in newyork. Yet it costs the same. These laws force AT&T to serve the rural customers they have.
If they do away with these laws then the only option rural customers will have (the majority of the country) is cellular if it's available... and in man
I realize you city dudes have a hard time with this idea but there are large swaths of the USA, and world, where there is no cell phone service. POTS is all we have and I had to lay a mile and a half of my own cable to get that. There is something called mountains that make radio, TV, cellular, WiFi and such not work so well.
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I can't debug this, because I have no models Order, OrderLine ...
But seems that multimodelform can't work with ajax, because of the clientside js-code on cloning.
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PALISADE, Colo. (KKCO) -- Today was the 5th Annual Palisade International Honeybee Festival. Though the event is enjoyable and fun for families, it's also meant to be an educational event where families and children can learn all about bees and how they make a difference for Western Colorado residents and farmers.
The day long event was all about bees...kicking off with an old fashioned spelling bee for children. Candace Lemarr was there for her daughter.
"She really wanted to do. She's been very driven as have most of her classmates- they have a love for learning and they're very excited to come and compete and show what they've learned," says Lemarr.
Others headed to Palisade for different reasons, Rhonda Phillips and her granddaughter, Anika, were there for a natural remedy.
"We came for local honey because it's good for our allergies," says Phillips.
Whether for the costumes or food, the festival was ultimately a way for Grand Valley kids to learn more about bees.
Gary McCallister, the president of the Western Colorado Beekeepers Association, was there to educate families.
"The purpose of this program was to educate the public about the need for bees and we're trying to educate, especially, the children," said McCallister.
According to McCallister, the majority of Colorado's fruit is grown in Delta, Mesa and Montrose counties- making bees a vital source to our agriculture.
"Without pollination, a lot of that fruit can't be grown, period," explained McCallister.
He even encourages families to adopt pet…bees, to benefit their own gardens.
"I'm trying to get more people to keep bees, maybe just in the backyard, 2 or 3 hives," said McCallister.
For some in attendance becoming local beekeepers in the near future isn't a stretch.
"It is completely possible, yes," said Lemarr.
Others might just stick to a temporary bee… with children encouraged to dress up like bees for the costume contest.
"There's a costume contest and she [her granddaughter] wore her bee costume," said Phillips.
The children at the Honeybee Festival were very eager to know more about bees and for Lemarr, she is proud her daughter has a love for bees and most importantly, for education.
"I'm very proud of her and what that means for her future- her love of learning will take her a long way in life," said Lemarr.
Festival vendors were there as well offering local honeys, such as lavender honey and soaps infused with honey.
Local Palisade restaurants adjacent to the festival offered bee-themed snacks and a variety of food selections.
The Honeybee Festival's primary motivation is to create awareness to the worldwide dilemma of honeybee colony collapse. The festival is also looking for grants and major sponsors to expand and make the gathering even larger for next year.


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NEW YORK, Jan. 8, 2013 /PRNewswire/ -- Deloitte & Touche LLP continues to strengthen its regulatory and risk services capabilities with the addition of Mike Fay and Peter Reynolds to its governance, regulatory & risk strategies (GR&RS) practice. Fay and Reynolds will be part of Deloitte's financial services industry practice, providing risk and compliance services to Deloitte's asset management and banking and securities clients.
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Fay, a principal in Deloitte's Boston office, previously served as chief compliance officer for a leading financial services institution. He was responsible for the organization's global compliance strategy as well as leading a worldwide team of compliance professionals. Fay is credited with leading various initiatives to promote the organization's compliance position through the enhancement of risk assessment methodologies and operational practices.
"With all of the compliance and regulatory challenges facing companies in today's market, it's essential to build your compliance program with the help of experienced advisers," said Fay, who will serve in a leadership role in asset management for the GR&RS practice. "I look forward to working with the Deloitte team to continue to implement best in class compliance strategies."
Fay is returning to Deloitte, where previously served 13 years including a leadership role with Deloitte's asset management practice. Fay is a certified bank auditor and certified risk professional.
"Mike's wealth of experience in spearheading risk and compliance-based programs is a significant asset to our practice and to our clients," said Kevin McGovern, national managing partner, governance, regulatory & risk strategies, Deloitte & Touche LLP.
Reynolds, a director in Deloitte's Parsippany, N.J. office, was previously the chief risk officer at Barclays' Wealth Americas, and responsible for managing the coverage of risk issues across the region, including operational and credit risks.
Previously, Reynolds was chief compliance officer and head of regulatory risk at RBS Americas where he instituted an enterprise wide compliance program consistent with regulators' expectations and requirements. In addition, Reynolds spent a decade at Citibank holding various risk and regulatory management roles including loan review, audit, corporate workout, and regulatory relations. During his Citibank tenure, Reynolds spent a year in South Korea integrating the risk and compliance organizations for Citibank's largest Asian acquisition, KorAm Bank. He later served as global head of operational risk for Citibank's Private Bank.
Reynolds is also an experienced regulator, previously serving as a credit examiner for the U.S. Office of the Comptroller of the Currency.
"Deloitte's reputation for leading regulatory, risk and compliance services precedes itself and I am truly excited to be joining such a highly respected practice," said Reynolds.
McGovern adds, "Peter brings an extensive background of more than 30 years of experience, the majority of which lies within the realm of banking and regulatory issues, but is specifically focused on risk and compliance."
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Chris Hunlow, a sport flier, told the local KSL News the new mining activity will change the ridgeline and disturb the wind flow over the mountain. Jake White, a spokesman for the mining company, said the company is supportive of the paragliders and in the past has agreed to property trades that protected their launch sites. "We've begun digging and mining on one of the slopes close by here that is within our property boundaries, but we don't have plans to go much further than that," White said. However, "that is where we are catching our lift, is right there," said paraglider pilot Milly Wallace. "Anything that disturbs that is going to change the flow of that wind."


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First Little Brother Beats Us Again Then He Steals Our Girl?!
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Even though this is a photoshop (photo...chop)... that is just wrong.
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Yeah, a Spartan friend sent it to me. I realize how many Spartan friends I have after MSU beats us. It's like the college equiv of the census. <--- oooh, I smell potential post idea...
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February 2011 - Ned Heads
My mother's words on last year's "Messages of Hope" say it all, "You have always been an inspiration for all of us. You're still doing it. Love always and forever…" Not only is my father the most amazing father a child could have but also was and is the most inspiring person in my and my four brothers lives.
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My father was diagnosed with Parkinson's disease when I was in 7th grade. As the disease progressed with my father, I knew I wanted to help find a cure. I first learned about the Unity Walk one week before it was held in 2008 when Michael J. Fox appeared on a commercial spreading awareness about the walk. I got right to work. I reached out to family and friends and was able to raise more than $1,000 that week. Along with two of my closest friends the Ned Heads team was created. As we walked with thousands of other people who were affected by Parkinson's disease this event became even closer to my heart.
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By 2009, the Ned Head's team and fundraising grew! Even though Parkinson's had taken over much of my father's body and mind, he attended the Unity Walk with the Ned Heads. After attending the Unity Walk for the second time, I knew I wanted to do more.
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Dementia had taken over my father's mind. I found this part of the disease the most difficult. My family worked together to keep my father at home surrounded by familiarity, love and family. My entire family helped my father through the years. My mother and brothers, Jed and Danny, who still lived at home helped to give my father the best life he could ask for. My brother's, who were still so young, were amazing with my father. It broke my heart to see my young brothers feed, dress, and comfort our father on a daily basis. I decided that helping find a cure for Parkinson's disease is something I will be a part of for the rest of my life.
After talking with a friend whose father is suffering from Multiple Myeloma, we decided we needed to think of a way to get all our friends involved in raising money for our father's diseases. We decided to have a bar crawl, "Crawling for a Cure"!
Unfortunately, my father never got to hear about the success of our bar crawl when he suddenly passed away on December 23, 2009 from complications of Parkinson's disease.
After losing my father, "Crawling for a Cure" became even more important to me. Over 120 friends and family came out to support the cause. We had an overwhelming wealth of support from the community and participants. A successful raffle was held due to the generosity of many of our friends and families. It was a terrific event and we raised more than $3,500 in just 5 hours! The 2nd annual "Crawling for a Cure" is already being planned and I hope to double our fundraising efforts.
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This past year it was hard attending the "Unity Walk" knowing that my father wasn't with us. But I know that he was there with his "can do" spirit and watching proudly all of our efforts to find a cure for Parkinson's disease.
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My hope is that our future children, wives, husbands, sisters, brothers, mothers, fathers and friends will not be affected by the disease that took my father's life.
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Looking for a survival Horror group? I was as well. Looking to reminisce about such classics as Eternal darkness, Resident Evil and Silent Hill? Why am I asking so many questions? Well then this is the group for you my friend!
And there you have it. Capcom confirms the rumors:
What was this game actually like? It completely passed me by.
So a 3DS exclusive ports out to the 360, PS3, PC and Wii U? Hmm... I might need to change my schedule....
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BATON ROUGE — LSU defensive tackle Glenn Dorsey was flat on his stomach in pain. Quarterback Matt Flynn could not get up after catching the first pass of his career. Middle linebacker Darry Beckwith hurt a knee. Offensive guard Herman Johnson went to his knees. Defensive tackle Marlon Favorite was also shaken up.
But all of them returned to the field and lived the Tigers' emotional and critical, 41-34 victory over No. 17 Alabama Saturday in Tuscaloosa, Ala. They all are expected to be ready to play when the Tigers host Louisiana Tech at 7 p.m. Saturday.
"Everybody that went down returned, which was a good sign," LSU coach Les Miles said Sunday night. "It was not unlike any game that we play. We came off with some bumps. It isn't anything that is tremendously serious."
But they caused some hearts to skip beats. Dorsey played with a brace on his sprained right knee and looked in pain at times. He got rolled from behind accidentally by Alabama players and left the game in the first quarter. But he returned after missing only one series.
Flynn took a hit after catching a pass from Early Doucet in the first quarter and had to be replaced briefly by backup quarterback Andrew Hatch, a walk-on from Harvard. But Hatch never took a snap because after a timeout, Flynn returned with a new chin strap and not quite as dizzy.
"His chin strap was busted in half," tailback Jacob Hester said. "He got hit pretty hard."
BEAT AT OWN GAME: Former LSU coach Nick Saban brought the blitz to LSU like no other coach before him. And on Saturday, a blitz beat his new Alabama team. After much criticism from media, fans and Miles, LSU defensive coordinator Bo Pelini put more pressure on the passer in this game and the result was a season-high seven sacks.
Alabama quarterback John Parker Wilson still made big plays and threw three touchdown passes, but he finished with just 14 completions in 40 attempts for 35 percent and an interception.
"We had to pressure the quarterback," Miles said. "We didn't want him to sit back there. We felt we had to get after him."
And after the seventh sack, they rested. True freshman safety Chad Jones made the last sack of Wilson on a blitz as Alabama faced a third and 12 from its 30-yard line with under two minutes to play and the scored tied 34-34. The sack caused Wilson to fumble. Safety Curtis Taylor recovered for LSU at the 3-yard line, and two plays later Jacob Hester scored on a 1-yard run for the 41-34 lead with 1:26 to play.
Jones was one of the jewels of Miles' 2007 signing class as he was considered the No. 1 safety in the nation by Rivals.com out of Southern Lab High in Baton Rouge.
"Chad Jones, anytime you spend on him, it's worth it," Miles said Sunday. "He's going to be pretty good."
CROWTON CROSSES UP SABAN, TOO: LSU offensive coordinator Gary Crowton inserted wide receiver Brandon LaFell into the game on LSU's touchdown drive to tie the game at 34-34 in the fourth quarter, not unlike a relief pitcher.
LaFell, who did not play as much earlier in the game because of some recent drops, had just one catch for four yards before this drive. Flynn threw to him four times in the 10-play drive, completing three for 39 yards. He was wide open on each one.
"I thought we had a good match-up with Brandon," Crowton said.
The drive ended with Flynn hitting Doucet on a short pass that turned into a 32-yard touchdown on a fourth-and-four play.
HIGHEST SCORING MEETING: Move over Indianapolis and New England. The LSU-Alabama game produced the most points in the history of the series with 75.
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Today's Meditation
Read John 15:1-8
Jesus said, "I am the vine, you are the branches. Those who abide in me and I in them bear much fruit, because apart from me you can do nothing."
-John 15:5 (NRSV)
AS a young woman, I attended a weeklong Christian conference. I struggled to go to the various meetings and lectures. Everyone seemed excited and talked about what they had learned -- except me.
"Why, Lord, can't I join in?" I prayed. I knew the answer: I was just too depressed to be with others.
Walking around the beautiful grounds, I came across a majestic tree. A main branch had been torn off, probably in a storm. In its place was a great red gash, and sticky resin oozed out of the wound. Yet in spite of this damage, the tree was full of leaves and cones. The gash in this tree reminded me that I too had lost something in my life when my dad died.
Then I thought of the scripture passage which tells us that if we remain in Jesus, we will bear much fruit. Through his love and through caring people, Jesus Christ can heal the wounds in our lives.
Looking at the bountiful fruit on the tree that day, I saw that a damaged tree can bear much fruit. Like that tree, we can bear fruit in our lives even though we suffer.
Lynn Sara How
(Cheshire, England)
Prayer: Dear Lord, source of life and strength, help us to rely on you to heal our wounds. Amen.
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I actually had to walk to my friends place to download the latest XNA and Visual Studio.
Idiot! Sorry, had to be said. I downloaded Linux when it was ca. 40 floppy disks, '93-ish. I was using Telix with BBSs, wondering wtf The Internet was, and wondering why the hell it was taking so long for us to get connected to it. Then I got a job at Atomic Energy Canada Ltd. (AECL), and found out they weren't even connected yet. Holy !@#$!, it felt like it was taking for !@#$ing ever to get going!
I feel much better now.
Damn, that was a frustrating time to be alive. "Why wasn't this working ten ye
I mostly went to sunsite.unc.edu or funet.fi.
Aawww man I remember both those sites. I got some of my first linux downloads from there.
Though coming from outside, in 1998 when documentation for newbies were scarce (and not knowing anybody who was remotely interested in anything outside microsoft), I wasted many a download on the wrong stuff before I finally invested in an early "many distribution collection" CD-set I ordered. Hell if I can remember which one now, but I do recall it had an early version of debian and redhat on it (pre 5.0) and included
Third group: Those who had Apple II or C64 or TRS-80 or some such.
Fourth (my) group: Those who carried boxes of punch cards across campus.
What about my group? I didn't grow up with computers, Computers grew up with me. [kuro5hin.org]
I was online in 1983. It was CumpuServe and it really sucked. At 300 baud it was text-only and there was little there.
BBSes were better. They were 9600 baud and FREE!
I wasn't on the real internet until 1997. 33k modem, WOW What speed!
Man, it was primitive...
Not all BBS'es went to 9600 baud. I only went from 300 to 1200 baud before closing my Wildcat BBS. Wildcat is the BBS software, not the BBS name. Fidonet took most BBSes offline in the wee hours for forwarding mail. This store and forward of email is the roots of the modern email and mail relay. It became much faster with always connected machines with more than one line.
For nastalgia, I still have my original 300 baud genuine Hayes Smartmodem. They were rock solid.
Awww, the inevitable floor sort, and the diagonal marker lines.....
Ahhh, yes.... the floor sort. Diagonal lines, good. And pranking people by collecting all the chad from the keypunches in the student keypunch area and... finding creative places to hide it.
Speaking of the floor sort, true confession time: I actually had a part time job as an "operator". Mainly feeding the card reader and filing output into pigeon holes. There was a punch card fed typesetting program that understood all the thesis requirements for margin and TOC and bibliography sites and such, and could to math and chemistry typesetting with weird escape sequences (all upper case, mind you). Think TeX, only punch-card oriented. It had one fairly serious design flaw, it pretty much insisted on reading all 80 columns of the card, so you couldn't use columns 73-80 for sequence numbers as was the usual for most programs in those days. We had a card sorter and operations would sort anyone's deck for free while-you-wait. But thesis decks were a no-go for sorting. Anyway, there was this one chemistry PhD student who's thesis deck was about 1 3/4 boxes of cards. I forget, is a box 8000 cards or there about? Anyway, he gave it to me one day. As I was loading the card reader with big fist-fulls of cards, I bumped my elbow on the reader and pretty much scattered to the wind about 1000 cards. As he silently watched I stopped the card reader, gathered all the loose cards and put them back in the box and said "Sorry." He didn't say a word -- amazing self control -- I think he was at the point of exploding. I saw him again about two weeks later -- he very quietly peeked around the door to see if it was my shift, saw me, and left. Never saw him again.
There are only two types of people in the world, those who separate the world into two groups, and those who do not.
Prodigy, Compuserve and AOL's predecessor and about a dozen others were around during the 8 bitters day
...well, my dad did. So, I had the experience of playing the "Star Trek" game on a printing terminal connected via an acoustic coupler. It was the Arpanet back then, and not the Internet, and we wore an onion on our belt, a big yellow one, because that was the style.
What was I saying? Oh, right, "full on" internet access wasn't so good in the days before BBSing was popular.
Internet reminisces about YOU!
I ran one, great times. Blazing 300 baud modem. By the time I was done we were up to 56K. I could probably still tell you the connection speed based on the squawks during the initial connection session.
I'm still very nostalgic about those times as I was part of them, and contributed to them. My BBS was free, and wasn't half bad. Of course Fido Net really gave you that sense of being in communication with the rest of the world. Amazing stuff!
There were plenty of paid ones.
Free for 30 minutes, pay for more access. Pay for file access and doors.
Telephone lines weren't free, and multitasking hardware was expensive too. There were lots which had access to echomail and basic doors access for free.
When you didn't have money, the trick was to have a giant list of telephone numbers on the wall so that you could program them all in your autodialer, then go read a book or something until one of the lines rang through to a modem. Then you could spend a night on a half dozen different boards.
FidoNet was terrific. I made several long term friends on that system. I even had a gateway over which you could send internet email.
The internet though has pretty much supplanted that.
Ah yes, I remember reading an EchoMail message from a fellow who watched the Berlin Wall come down.
1:351/1 was my node if memory serves
It's amazing what we can take for granted when we cease stopping to think about it. Thanks for reminding me.
I still remember the
Hah, for that matter I can just about whistle 14.4k V.42 handshaking tones. Good times on the old QuickBBS-based system in my hometown; alas, it was too far out in the sticks to be on Fidonet.
This was back in the Bad Old Days when it was possible to get a 14.4 e
You had to trim the buffers for the UART in Windows to avoid some of that. Trumpet Winsock over a SLIP connection would drive you crazy.
Quantum Computer Services (aka QuantumLink, which was basically AOL for Commodore 64 users... later they had AppleLink for Apples).
Other early services I remember:
The Source (later merged with CompuServe)
Portal (semi-popular Unix accounts with some Internet access)
Galaxy BBS
Fidonet and Citadel networked BBSs
which was basically AOL for Commodore 64 users
Actually, it was AOL, they just didn't know it yet.
Quantum Link (and Quantum Computer Services) changed its name to America Online around '91. If you were on Q-Link at the time, you might even remember the letters to users from Steve Case back when he was a Vice President during the Quantum days. Those notes from Steve Case seemed to start around the time the Quantum Link logo changed from the blue Futura-like text to the "Qlink" logo with the red 'Q' and black script 'link'. Who knew that in 1991 he'd bec
I remember the daily ritual of signing on to Compuserve to get the daily email from our customers in Europe, as well as telex orders.
It was pretty much useless as far as I can recall, but it was a boat load cheaper than phone calls for tech support issues.
When we first started, there was just beginning to be interconnection between Compuserve and a few other providers. Customers would send us Compuserve mails to let us know they were having problems dialing into our BBS system from India, and Britain.
The internet came along in our part of the hinterlands, and we hopped on that as fast as possible. We were only too happy to be free of these other services. Even if Email did take a day to arrive (I kid you not, it took a day to get an email from India, and it was routed through the most amazing places).
So, no, not nostalgic. Nightmare perhaps. Trying to type an answer to a tech support question into the glass tty screen with the minute meter clicking in your head, because copy/paste hadn't really been worked out yet. Being charged by the message length!! Arrrggggh.
No thank you. I'm not taking the tour.
In 87 or 88 I caught wind of a system I could accss through the University of Maine (I lived near Orono at the time).
It had email, chat rooms, discussion forums, multiplayer/MUD games, flight simulators, and I could write programs on it if I bothered to learn how.
It was called NovaNET.
And it's still around.
We used modems to connect, ran a terminal emulator, and I played a LOT of Avatar, running a Ninja up to about level 550 or so before I pissed off some sysadmins at UICU and had to give it up. I commented
I was in front of a Sun workstation from '91 to '93. One day somebody posted a multi-part UUencoded Beatles song on a USENET group. They were promptly and universally thrashed by the community for violating copyright and jeapordizing the existance of network priveleges at universities.
You see, people still had respect for eachother. IP fascism such as the Unisys GIF patent and the marching cubes algorithm were seen as the exception, not the rule. **AAs hadn't started suing students into bankruptcy. Hec
If you're talking about a text-based MMO around the 14.4 era, I played a couple on AOL around that time. They might well have been the same games on comparable services. I was particular to a caribbean island spy game from Simutronics called Modus Operandi.
They also had GemStone IV and DragonRealms on there as I recall, which were much closer to D&D.
The posted article has too many false assumptions in it to be anything like reasonable. It's trying to establish a false dichotomy. I've been on the Internet since the early 80s -- essentially, all my computing life -- and certainly never resorted to silly BBS systems or AOL/Prodigy abominations. Bletch!
Sure, there were times I had to dial into a terminal server, but I still connected directly to a nice friendly BSD Unix system on the real Internet. The firstish of which was what became known as uwvax.cs.
Before 1996 and my family's acquisition of dialup internet (at $0.50 an hour!) my parents had access to Compuserve for several years. I remember using it many times on a 14.4K modem, eventually upgrading to a 28.8K as Compuserve began enabling internet access over their dialup connections.
Their services were replaced rapidly, even AOL with their numerous exclusives couldn't stave off the inevitable dominance (and infinitely greater flexibility) of the internet.
does anyone remember The Source? Where Ilearned about archie, gopher, telnet,finger,who, ftp and the like. I remember the first time I connected I went exploring on the source and realized that I was connecting to computers all over the world.
AppleCat FTW. If you had the special daughterboard AND you were calling another AppleCat owner, you could get 1200 baud!
There seems to be a general assumption by many that the internet was predestined to win out over these other pre-existing nets.
It wasn't.
Things like the much derided Al Gore 'invention of the internet' - he was instrumental in securing some funding for non-educational use.
If the existing services that were taking off when the internet came along from behind had gotten their acts together - and gotten for example inter-provider mail working, the internet in its present form may not have happened.
It could so easily have been that if you wanted to make a page to advertise your business, it wasn't a case of simply sign up to one of the many thousands of hosting providers - but three or four large companies dominate.
There seems to be a general assumption by many that the internet was predestined to win out over these other pre-existing nets.
If the existing services that were taking off when the internet came along from behind had gotten their acts together - and gotten for example inter-provider mail working, the internet in its present form may not have happened.
Certainly not predestined, but economic forces at some point would have demanded interoperability. Whether that meant a true "network of networks" (as you say, and as the internet was defined as), at some point a common-denominator protocol,service,etc would be required. The rise of cheaper and faster electronics (and therefore communications) would make any other scenario unlikely (barring dumb government regulation or something).
It may not have looked been TCP/IP, but it would be an Internet Protocol none
I see this very early entry to the public Internet is sadly missing from the article. CFN (https://wiki.case.edu/Cleveland_Freenet) provided message boards, IRC, USENet, MUDs/MOOs, and just about every other service provided by the fledgling Internet was there, including email (with gateways to FIDO, CIS, and a few others), to anybody with a modem, for free. The FreePort software was also published under (I believe) a 4-clause BSD license, giving rise to myriad offspring, some of which might still be arou
I had a friend who couldn't stop calling it "computer serve" instead of "Compuserve." But oh well.
I started personally in 1990 or 1991 with Prodigy- DXTH23B, here. It was on a 286/12 with 1MB RAM and an incredibly big 60MB hard drive. I even had VGA! I installed the modem myself, at 14 years old. I was so nervous because I didn't want to break our computer, that I was shaking! I got the modem in and then learned about IRQ's and COM ports. Those were the days! I remember being so excited when I could message
I used Delphi and ran a BBS
Delphi had their "internet portal." My first taste of the "wider world," in text of course, in '94.
Most people I knew didn't have any kind of online service in the mid-80s. It wasn't until 1987 that I met a friend who's dad had it and used it sparingly. CompuServe was just getting started and the ads looked cool in Compute! magazine but there was no way I wouldn't have been able to talk my parents into buying a modem after already talking them into the Commodore 64. One has to remember, a Commodore 64 and 1541 disk drive would set you back about $450. Adjusting for inflation, in today's dollars, that's roughly $867! Add to that, the only way one could access it would be through the phone lines - long distance - around 50 cents/min back then.
So, we bought blank floppies and used Fast Hack'em to copy warez. Hell yeah, those were the days.
I collect old computer ads. Remember 10 MB hard drives selling for $3400? You could buy a car for that.
I've been on COMPUSERVE and Genie at 300 Baud. I wrote my own BBS software for the C64 (and I still have the Source code and Data files!), then I wrote one for the Atari ST. Somewhere around 1990 I got on the Internet. That was a PITA back then... having to install software in Windows just to connect.
I miss those days a little, except for the speed. I'll take my 60Mbit Connection over 300 Baud any day
Long Live the Punter Protocol! Transferring 170K in 30 minutes!
>The ham radio loving middle-aged pedos who stalked them? Check.
Oh man that reminds me. Until the mid-naughties ADSL was still a rare thing in South Africa with our single government run telecoms provider and their legally protected monopoly.
Sure there were ISPs but getting online meant making a per-minute phone call to them over a modem (this was the days of 56K dialup accounts).
Service from telkom being attrocious most ISPs had a line shortage and could only handle a small number of simultaneous users,
For us, this was most practical of the various kinds of Internet connectivity available in those days. It "only" did email--but, jesus--what a productivity boost. Our Fedex bill dropped like a stone.
This was the main online service I used for 10 years. Dumped it when AOL bought them. First connected with a manual 300 baud modem I built from spare parts. Still have the modem. Fun days.
And they're better left alone. Let's be careful with those rose tinted glasses. In terms of technology things sucked back then. Things are much better now. I'm old enough to remember 8" floppy disks and all I can say is "good riddance". I hated those BBSs. What a pain that was. And downloading files even with zmodem was so painfully slow.
I will admit however that I have never been able to find a suitable replacement for the cRPG forum on Compuserve or some of the usenet discussion groups. But pretty much everything else sucked. Technology is one of the few things in the world that get better with time.
One thing that does seem to have changed for the worse however is the discussion level in forums. I remember discussion forums in the 90s as being a lot more polite and deep, with walls and walls of text and no one complaining about it and well thought out, intelligent replies. Nowadays if a message is too long to have fit in a cell phone text message it is considered a lengthy, impossible to read, wall of text.
Even on slashdot, I remember the discussions being better 10 years ago. There was a time when the majority of slashdotters even used Linux and knew how to write code. Maybe even assembly language (gasp). It used to also have a high percentage of Libertarians, which was interesting. Now Slashdot seems to be dominated by liberals, socialists, and greens. There was a time when any mention of Democrats vs Republicans was responded to with "What's the difference?". There are still replies like that but they are overwhelmed with hundreds of replies from genuine Democrats and Republicans bickering with each other about their petty differences.
Today, you probably pay a flat fee for your Internet service and, for the most part, you don't pay anything for the various Web sites you visit or services you use. In the pre-CIX Internet days, it was an entirely different story.
Unless you were lucky enough to live close to an online service point of presence you had to use a dial-up modem to call up an X.25 packet switched wide area network (WAN). This connection service alone could cost anywhere from an affordable $1 an hour to a wallet busting $30 an hour, which you could then use to connect with an online service. The online service would also typically charge you a monthly fee plus an additional fee of $1 to $6 an hour. And you thought your ISP was expensive!
That's between $2 and $36 per hour. At the speeds mentioned, you could transfer 135,000 bytes per hour. That's $0.00237 to
$0.0427 per 160 bytes, which is much less than the $0.20 that we are charged today for text messaging without a plan. Incredible.
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Racial and ethnic disparities in health care continue to persist across the country. The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, which is in the process of being fully implemented, is expected to extend coverage to as many as 32 million Americans who lack insurance by expanding Medicaid and requiring most others to purchase insurance. However, the question remains: will providing health insurance increase access to quality health care for racially and ethnically diverse populations?
Andrew Loehrer, MD, a resident in the MGH Codman Center for Clinical Effectiveness in Surgery and an associate in the Disparities Solutions Center, is examining disparities in surgery before and after the 2006 Massachusetts insurance expansion, as well as the impact of national health reform on racial disparities in surgical disease. On Sept. 10, Loehrer presented the results of his study, "Racial Disparities after Massachusetts Health Reform: Does the Expanded Insurance Coverage Impact Variation in Surgical Care?" at the Racial and Ethnic Disparities: Keeping Current Seminar Series hosted by The Disparities Solutions Center.
"In very common general surgery procedures, we found that the Massachusetts health reform was associated with increasing the quality standard of care for minority communities and decreased, if not eliminated, racial disparities in most general surgery disease processes we studied," said Loehrer.
Massachusetts has been recognized as a model for the expansion of health insurance in other states across the country, but Loehrer said whether states follow that model is still undecided. "Each of those states is also unique in its own health care environment, its own demographic makeup, and other factors that impact health care," said Loehrer.
"But they have greater potential to improve access to care by virtue of higher uninsurance rates. So they stand potentially to see similar results."
For more information about The Disparities Solutions Center visit www.mghdisparitiessolutions.org.
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Couldn't stay awake to catch this past weekend's Sengoku Raiden Championship 15 event live? HDNet has you covered.
As a reminder, World Victory Road's recently concluded event, Sengoku Raiden Championship 15, re-airs tonight in North America on HDNet.
The three-hour broadcast airs tonight at 11:30 p.m. ET/8:30 p.m. PT.
Sengoku Raiden Championship 15 originally took place Oct. 30 at Tokyo's Ryogoku Kokugikan. The 10-fight lineup featured a controversial decision in the evening's main event as Hiroshi Izumi was granted a split-decision win over James Zikic in a bout that most MMA observers saw as a clear-cut win for Zikic.
American Brian Cobb also scored an upset win over Kazunori Yokota in the evening's co-feature despite struggling mightily to make weight for the event.
The remainder of the card saw the quarterfinal round of the Sengoku Raiden Championship Asian bantamweight grand prix and the semifinal bouts of the promotion's welterweight grand prix.
The evening's first contest also featured a legitimate "Knockout of the Year" candidate as Maximo Blanco earned a crushing first-round stoppage of Kiuma Kunioku.
A second replay of Sengoku Raiden Championship 15 airs Saturday morning at 3 a.m. ET/12 a.m. PT.
For more on Sengoku Raiden Championships 15, including the evening's full results, check out the MMA Events section of MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com).


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It wasn't an easy race to the coroner's office, but Rob Russell survived.
He faced Democratic opponent Tao Martinez in a campaign that Russell previously described as "unsavory."
Russell's credentials were called into question, and the two candidates clashed over classifying the coroner's office as a law enforcement position.
Martinez had challenged Russell's claim that he has lead homicide and death investigation duties.
Russell, in turn, had challenged Martinez's list of certificates and training as a death cleanup vendor at coroners' and medical examiners' conferences.
The race concluded Tuesday with Russell receiving 57 percent of the vote. And Russell said he's ready to tackle a troubled office and repair strained relationships.
One of his messages during the campaign called to restore the integrity of the troubled office. Former Coroner Chuck West, who died in July after complications from surgery, had been charged with official misconduct.
Russell, 45, said his priorities include going through an accreditation process and repairing relationships with several groups with which the coroner will work closely. He said his goal is to reach out to funeral homes and police and fire agencies. He said he hopes to repair the strain caused by the previous coroner's office administration.
"We need to have a good relationship and get rid of the egos," he said.
Russell said there's a benefit to having a good working relationship with advocacy groups because those groups have expertise in counseling families.
He said that's not something coroners are good at, and those groups can assist families who need those services.
Another longer-term goal of Russell's is to make the position an accredited office.
"I think the accreditation process will bring more legitimacy to the office," he said.
Accreditation would bring the coroner's office up to speed on the best death investigation practices used nationally. He's in the process of exploring the requirements of an accrediting agency called the International Association of Coroners and Medical Examiners, of Las Vegas.
"It may cost a few thousand dollars to get this done," he said. "But it will be worth it in the end."
Russell, who has spent 20 years in law enforcement and works as a sergeant with the DuPage County Sheriff's Office, said he has accreditation experience already working with the sheriff's office.
He said going through accreditation will increase the chances of capturing grants.
The coroner's office also is self-insured, he said, and accreditation could help bring insurance costs down. But the accreditation process doesn't happen overnight; Russell said it will take a few years to complete.
Once he's sworn in, Russell said he has 60 days to complete a training course required by state statute. He said his first order of business is to quit his job with the DuPage County Sheriff's Office to focus on his role as coroner full time.
This was the second public office Russell has sought – he lost a bid for Kane County sheriff in 2010 and had intentions of running again for that seat in 2014 until he started researching the qualifications of the coroner's office.
He said as a law enforcement official, he didn't realize how well his skills translated to the coroner position, so he decided to run. He also saw a need to restore the office's credibility.
"There was an immediate need for talent, and my talents matched," he said.


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Daniel Sturridge has been ruled out of Friday's World Cup qualifier
Daniel Sturridge will miss Friday night's World Cup qualifier against Moldova so Rickie Lambert will start up front.
Last Updated: 06/09/13 10:04am
The in-form Sturridge is to return to Liverpool for treatment on a thigh injury but it is hoped he will be fit in time for next Tuesday's key game in the Ukraine.
Sturridge tweeted: "Gutted to be out the England match!! Hopefully I will be fit soon... #justmyluck"
And manager Roy Hodgson has confirmed that Southampton striker Lambert will therefore make his first England start at Wembley.
Sturridge has scored in Liverpool's first three league games this season but aggravated the injury during the 1-0 victory over Manchester United on Sunday and said afterwards he was worried about shooting due to the discomfort he was in.
And Cardiff defender Steven Caulker has also been ruled out of the Moldova match after picking up a knock in training.
Lambert came off the bench to score in a recent friendly against Scotland and Hodgson said: "I have picked the team and Rickie Lambert will start, yes.
"He deserves a chance. I can't deny had Wayne Rooney and Daniel Sturridge been available, it would have been harder for him to get a starting place, but I am more than happy to have a player of his calibre to start this game."
Hodgson also confirmed that Arsenal's Theo Walcott and Manchester United forward Danny Welbeck will provide Lambert with assistance from the flanks.
Kyle Walker, Gary Cahill, Phil Jagielka and Ashley Cole are set to start in front of goalkeeper Joe Hart while Steven Gerrard, Frank Lampard and Jack Wilshere will definitely play in midfield.
Injury woe
Hodgson said: "We've not exactly been lucky have we? We've lost Daniel, and Wayne (Rooney), and our two potential right-backs in Glen Johnson and Phil Jones.
"Before that it was Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, so we have lost five players that, a couple of weeks ago, I was really banking on.
"I know it's a cliche but it's a great opportunity for the ones who maybe would not have got a game had the others been available, and it's now up to them to do the job."
Touch and go
Asked whether Sturridge might be available for next week, Hodgson said: "He's worked hard at his treatment.
"The initial prognosis was that he would not be fit for either of them. We didn't accept that and he didn't accept that either, so he's worked very hard to try and have the necessary treatment.
"I would think it will be touch and go, we won't know until Sunday morning.
"He reports back on Saturday evening; Sunday morning we have a training session before we leave for the Ukraine and, if he passes it, he'll be with us. If he doesn't he'll be staying with Liverpool."
As for Caulker, Hodgson added: "Steven unfortunately turned his ankle in training. It's not a very serious matter but it will keep him out of the game tomorrow night. It won't keep him out of the Ukraine game.
"He's expecting to do some running tomorrow evening after the game with the players who don't play but he won't be on the bench tomorrow."


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MOORE, Okla.—The National Weather Service says the tornado that hit Moore, Okla., had wind speeds up to 200 mph.
- Moore, Okla., tornado 5/20/13
- May 20:
- Oklahoma officials: Tornado search, rescue ongoing
- Hospitals treat more than 120 after Okla. tornado
- Oklahoma twister tracked path of 1999 tornado
The weather service's preliminary classification of Monday afternoon's tornado was an EF-4 on the enhanced Fujita scale.
Authorities say emergency crews are working to rescue people trapped in Moore, which is southwest of Oklahoma City.
Oklahoma City Police Capt. Dexter Nelson said emergency crews are trying to reach the affected areas. There were no immediate reports of injuries.
The suburb of Moore was hit hard by a tornado in 1999. The storm had the highest winds ever recorded near the earth's surface.


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Tomy International and The Pokemon Company International signed a multi-year global master toy agreement, giving Tomy the exclusive toy license outside of Asia. Beginning next year, Tomy will be the exclusive licensee and distributor for categories including figures, figure accessories, and plush. This agreement makes Tomy Group the unified global toy partner for the Pokemon brand, one of the world's leading kids entertainment franchises.
Tomy International will be the first to market with themed toys based on the highly-anticipated video game sequels, Pokemon Black 2 and Pokemon White 2.


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"For the Middle East region overall, strengthening institutions, adapting the role of the state to the needs of a modern market-based economy, and creating appropriate incentives for private sector initiative through more liberalized trade and financial regimes, will go a long way toward strengthening economic performance," asserted Horst Köhler, managing director of the International Monetary Fund (IMF),
"The IMF stands ready to assist the region in this process," he added in a statement issued following a June 5, 2003, meeting in Doha, Qatar, with the finance ministers and central bank governors of the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC).
"I appreciate the opportunity to meet again with the finance ministers and central bank governors of the GCC, and I welcome their offer to address the important role of the Middle East in the global economy and the policy challenges ahead. I would also like to thank Yousef Kamal, Minister of Finance, Qatar for hosting this meeting," he said.
"This is an uncertain period for the Middle East region, and the global economy more generally. I have reason to be optimistic, nevertheless. The evolving regional environment has not only thrown up new challenges but also opportunities for reinvigorating growth."
"The authorities appreciate that strengthening of economic cooperation under sound macroeconomic and structural policies will foster sound and sustainable economic development. Looking beyond the region, the headwinds that have held back growth globally are also diminishing, although vigilance is necessary given the current balance of risks to global growth."
"The GCC countries have witnessed unprecedented economic and social transformation in recent decades. Large official foreign assets have been accumulated, relatively low external debt levels have been maintained, and infrastructure has been significantly modernized."
"These are achievements that reflect positively on management of oil wealth, and show the fruits of opening borders to trade, capital, and labor. New challenges, however, are emerging. Non-oil growth will need to increase in a sustained fashion to address unemployment pressures in some GCC countries and the financial dependence on volatile oil export receipts will have to be reduced to protect against vulnerability to terms of trade shocks."
"It is gratifying to note that the authorities are intensifying their reform efforts to address these challenges. Undoubtedly, increased regional integration culminating in an efficient monetary union will help in this process." — (menareport.com)
© 2003 Mena Report (www.menareport.com [1])
[1] http://www.menareport.com
[2] http://www.albawaba.com


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Jeremy, this is cool stuff. Inspired, I did some testing at:
I added some links with rev="vote-for" and "vote-against", then used Javascript to check the page for the votelinks and add tooltips to the tags. Right now I'm popping up little +1 and -1 icons, but I got into a discussion with the usability guy here about visual affordances in the links and I'm not sure if there's a need to make the votelinks explicit on the linking side.
Hopefully, something like trackback can be used to propogate these votes to the sites that are linked to, and in the comments/trackbacks lists the site could have an Agreed/Disagreed list. Just thinking…


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How many times have the Reds struck out already this year with runners on?
How many times have the Reds struck out already this year with runners on?
An Ode to The Reds Offense
The swing catches air.
A nasty catcher smiles.
K after terrible K!
Baseball Divines, have mercy upon us!
Naturally that stays fair.
If you get bored, here's a good read...
Not that I believe in Foxtrack, but the replay on the St Louis broadcast showed the called 3rd strike to Rohlen to be six inches inside.
Some of these Card vetrans have to start hitting the DL soon. At least I would hope.
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O-o-o-oh, Romeo-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o… December 3, 2012Posted by The Typist in New Orleans, Odd Words, Theater, Toulouse Street.
Tags: New Orleans Museum of Art, NOMA, review, Romeo and Juliet, The NOLA Project, William Shakespeare
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If you were thinking of going to see the well acted and thoughtfully staged The NOLA Project production of Romeo and Juliet and NOMA: don't. The acoustics and sight lines are horrible in the foyer of NOMA and render a great part of the dialogue, including the balcony scene, unintelligible to the audience on stage right. Only a handful of the actors–A.J. Allegro as Mercutio, Natalie Boyd as the Nurse, James Yeargain as Friar John and experienced Shakespeareans Martin Covert and Jim Wright as Montague and Capulet, managed to modulate their voices to minimize the echoes and so be intelligible and demonstrate their talent. Even the best of the actors sometimes were placed in the space so that one despairs of understanding them. Good use was made of the four entrances and stairway to generate an energetic tension in the scenes of conflict between the young men of the two families, but the scenes of Juliet on the staircase and balcony, while dramatically staged, placed her dead in the center of the echo chamber. Kristin Witterschein was a fresh and charming Juliet What can be seen from an obstructed view and what could be understood was well done, but I'm judging much of her performance from tone of voice and a few brief glimpses, as if I were watching a foreign film behind a tall man in a tall hat. I would love to see this company perform this in another place.
If you already have your tickets, be sure to arrive by 6:00 for the 7:30 curtain and run don't walk to a seat in front stage left, where I think you would at least be able to understand the balcony scene and have unobstructed sight lines. Or else be sure to read the play before you come so you can at least play it in part in your own head. If you insist on going, buy an obstructed sight line ticket and save some money because there was no effort made to actually segregate the seating, and our full price tickets placed us squarely between two pillars and we arrived at 6:30.


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The accolades are flowing for Cedric Jackson, the New Zealand Breakers point guard regarded as the best player in the NBL.
The 26-year-old with 12 games in short stints at three American NBA clubs has been on the move for much of his life, so a second season in Auckland almost rates as settling down.
Jackson is building on his outstanding 2011 Australian NBL season, and went on a personal records smashing spree against the Melbourne Tigers in the last round while earning teammates' praise for still honouring the team ethos.
The Weekend Herald discovered a humble character who has been on court with the world's best basketballers, looks up to Breakers colleagues, and dreams of returning to the big time in America.
You were born in a small New Mexico desert town ...
My dad was in the Air Force. We moved around a lot of bases - New Mexico, Florida, North Carolina, Washington, New Jersey, Maryland - until I was about 16, 17. That can be tough, leaving good friends and always making new ones.
Childhood heroes?
My dad played at Georgetown back in the days of Patrick Ewing and Alonzo Mourning but he got a bad knee injury. I always watched my dad and brother ... they didn't want me to play because I was so small but my skill level was so advanced I kept up.
Was basketball always your priority?
It was the sport my parents pushed me towards. I tried others - soccer, running back in American football, pitcher in baseball and track.
Any advice for youngsters?
Play with older guys who won't take it easy on you then go back to your own age group.
Who is the best player you've shared a court with?
LeBron James at the Cavs (Cleveland). He's the best - just give him the ball and watch him go to work. There was also Shaq O'Neal - I try to get a lot of wisdom from those guys and see how they go about business.
Do you dream of an NBA return?
Yeah - that's definitely what I work hard for. It's all about the right timing, injuries play a part, your agent ...
Career highlight?
Winning the college league championship at Cleveland State University.
Your hobbies/interests?
I go to church ... I play drums and sing in a band we have called Brothers In One. We were all in the Air Force and got spread out but some of us landed in Maryland together.
How do you rate the NBL standards?
There is a lot more athleticism at home but this league is still very talented. It took a while to get going and see how people play here. There are some differences - if I score, catch the ball and throw it to the ref that's fine at home, but here it is a technical foul. There was a lot to learn.
What is the toughest part of the NBL?
Travel. It's seven hours to Perth and you have to learn how to take care of your body on the flight. It's also a mindset thing. In the NBA they have charter flights, food that you could serve in a top restaurant, seats like La-Z-Boy chairs. Our travel lets you get to know the guys a bit more ... you can find good things in any situation.
Had you heard of New Zealand before 2011?
I had to look it up on the map and my agent told me it was a 23, 24-hour flight. I thought 'oh my gosh'. I had a good conversation with (Breakers coach) Andrej Lemanis and felt very comfortable with what he was telling me.
Who are the driving forces in the Breakers squad?
CJ Bruton, Dillon Boucher, Mika Vukona. They have been here the longest so have had the rocky roads and know how to deal with those things. It is good to have those guys to lean on. CJ knows my dream, to return to the NBA, and gives me things to work on.
What is the Breakers' winning secret?
Good things happen to good people. The coaching staff do a very good job of scouting players who fit in with our style and mesh in well. There is a dedication to success.


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What I was thinking of using droplist to find some quality domain names.
There are many things when we talk of quality of a domain name, those qualities are
Page Rank
Short Domain name
Keyword domain name
etc. If you make use of these kind of domain name then please suggest any tool which helps in this process, also let me know your strategy as well.


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Patricia M. (Whitaker) Carter
Patricia M. (Whitaker) Carter, age 51, of Omaha Boulevard, Warwick, died on July 15, 2013 at Rhode Island Hospital . She was the wife of Kevin D. Carter.
Born in Providence, the daughter of Marguerite E. (Rose) Whitaker of Riverside and the late Robert B. Whitaker, she lived in Warwick since 1988. She was a 1980 graduate of Bayview Academy and a 1984 graduate of Rhode Island College. Mrs. Carter was employed as an accountant at Rhode Island Family Services from 2008 to 2011.
Besides her husband and mother; she is survived by a daughter, Caitlin L. Carter, and a son, Christopher R. Carter, both of Warwick; and a brother, James R. Whitaker of Riverside.
A Mass of Christian Burial will be celebrated on Saturday, July 20, at 10 a.m. in St. Peter Church, 350 Fair Street, Warwick. Relatives and friends are invited. Visiting hours are on Friday from 5-8 p.m. in the Barrett & Cotter Funeral Home, 1328 Warwick Avenue, Spring Green, Warwick. Burial will be private.
In lieu of flowers, contributions in her memory may be made to the National Kidney Foundation, 85 Astor Avenue, Suite 2, Norwood, MA 02062-5040.


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I'm all about the "slam dunk is still worth two points" mentality. A win's a win, and a loss is a loss, and all that.
But I'd like to see Texas hammer the Mariners this weekend. To open up a huge can and punish that team three times.
This isn't an emotional plea. I'm not putting the face paint on, not gearing up for a Gatorade bath, not thinking about the fact that the second-best record in the American League belongs to the second-best team in the Rangers' division, a club who hasn't been closer in the standings since the season was one week old.
I want to see Texas pound Seattle because Joe Nathan needs to rest. Because Mike Adams (shoulder) needs to rest. Because Koji Uehara (three straight nights) needs to rest. Because Robbie Ross (forearm) is almost ready to pitch but not quite yet. Because Roy Oswalt (forearm) may not throw another meaningful pitch this year.
And because I'd rather not have to find out whether Alexi Ogando, who has now pitched twice in three nights after only one appearance in the previous nine days due to a sore biceps muscle, will be ready to go again tonight.
With all the gifts Cleveland gave Texas on Thursday, it's irritating that Nathan was needed on a third straight night. The Indians, winners of nine games in their last 44, started Zach McAllister, brutal in his last three starts (including one against the Rangers), and fielded a B game lineup.
Derek Holland did his job. Tanner Scheppers, Martin Perez, and Ogando created a messy eighth but escaped unscathed. This one was on the offense, which had opportunities to blow the game open, particularly in the eighth, when 2-2 became 4-2 but could have been a good bit more as Nathan got loose in the pen.
Nathan – whose velocity was down and whose fastball command was off and who said after the game that he feels fine but "may be going through one of those [dead-arm periods] now" – struggled, prompting a handful of fans at Rangers Ballpark to boo the elite closer.
But no worries. Any fan who booed Joe Nathan will be otherwise occupied for the Seattle series: high school football tonight, college tomorrow, Cowboys Sunday. They won't be around Rangers Ballpark this weekend. (For the rest of you, Chuck Morgan sent this message.)
I'd be very happy if Texas didn't need Nathan to step on the field himself.
It's on Yu Darvish, Scott Feldman, and Matt Harrison to help see to it. And on Scheppers, Michael Kirkman, Mark Lowe, Yoshinori Tateyama, and Perez to take advantage of a big opportunity to contribute, even if most of them won't be pitching in October.
And on the offense to take care of business against a Mariners rotation that won't come back around to Felix Hernandez until Seattle is back home to take on the Orioles.
The Mariners have the same record since the All-Star Break (33-24) as Texas, but that's irrelevant. Texas is the best team in the American League, and it's time to exercise a little #CastleDoctrine and do bad things to a club that's buried in the division and playing things out only to irritate the 18 opponents they have left on the schedule, every one of them a team gunning for 162+.
I usually don't care a whole lot if a win comes in a pitchers' duel or an Arena Baseball showcase, if it's a nailbiter or a blowout. Just pile up the W's, however it needs to be done, win series, and I'm good.
But that's not enough tonight and not tomorrow. I have an appetite for some baseball destruction, and I'd like to be able to give the Rangers a standing ovation for saving Joe Nathan a bit, in a momentary reversal of roles in a very important stretch of a season in which he's done his job as well as any Rangers closer ever has.


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TEMPLE TERRACE - The longtime lack of communication among the groups across the county aimed at preserving the environmental health of the Hillsborough River has, in the past few years, transformed into a unified spirit of collaboration.Nowhere was that more evident than on Oct. 15 during the State of the River Tour in Temple Terrace, where representatives of the Temple Terrace River Watch Task Force, the River Roundtable and Friends of the River joined forces at Rotary Riverfront Park for an afternoon boat excursion through the portion of the river that meanders through the city.
Its purpose was to shed light on ways to preserve the river, which is categorized by its upper, middle and lower segments. The portion through Temple Terrace is the middle river.
"In years past, they were treated as three separate entities, but I'm happy to say we have all come together to preserve and improve the quality as one water body," said Temple Terrace Councilwoman Alison Fernandez, who also serves as chairwoman of the Hillsborough River Interlocal Planning Board.
Rich Brown, a member of the River Round Table and the Friends of the River, said coming together with the task force has shed a more positive light on protecting the river.
"Some areas of the river have been neglected for years because the focus was always on Tampa and the Port of Tampa," Brown said.Read more at http://www2.tbo.com/content/2010/oct/25/MENEWSO3/
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Isn't this essentially what Google's image search does? The difference is that if you want the full-sized version, Google sends you to the original web site.
Not exactly. Underneath the images is the domain name where the image resides, and if you click on the image it still takes you to the page with a frame on top displaying the smaller version of the image.
Heh. Frames.
Frames are the right way to do it, and I applaud Google for using them instead of listening to pseudo-engineer web designers who think they know anything yukking it up about how frames are so five years ago.
I'm sure someone has been watchdogging them on it
I hope so. The rest of us sure haven't. And your comment would be applicable in many other situations....
Can we just make a rule that any image you post on the internet doesn't belong to you anymore? Anyone with any sense already figured that out a decade ago anyway.
Perhaps we can do that with text, too, since there really is no difference in text and photos in this context. Of course, that means that all worthwhile content will disappear, such as news websites, individual blogs, Google Earth, Maps, etc.
The complaint isn't about getting paid, it is about attribution. I release most of my personal photography under CC with attribution. I have also written many nasty letters to competitors who lift our images from our website to use on competing websites. (we shoot everything, even stuff I can get manufacturer's photos of, to insure we have a unique look). The reason I do this is not only because I don't like working for free for other companies, but it dilutes our efforts to maintain a unique look. That and I don't need someone competing with me unless they are willing to spend the same amount of resources into photography that we have. ie: I don't want to subsidize my own competition.
So, no, I think I should be able to keep the copyright on stuff I create.
I know, maybe we should just DRM everything!1!!1 That'll solve the problem.
No offense, man, but the universe doesn't owe you copyright. And unfortunately, the tradition of copyright depends on copying being hard. Now that it's easy, there's really no way to prevent people from doing this. You can send them nasty letters, but the water's coming in faster than you can bail. Like every other content producer, eventually you're going to have to learn to make money from the people who are willing to pa
And unfortunately, the tradition of copyright depends on copying being hard. Now that it's easy, there's really no way to prevent people from doing this.
Umm... I have to call BS on your "tradition of copyright." Copyright wasn't created until movable type on presses made mass "copying" possible and relatively easy to do. The "tradition of copyright" came into being when copying became easy. So, various governments stepped in and made such things illegal (for a limited time, anyway) to enable creators and publishers a little time to make a profit.
I'll admit that the combination of digital formats for data and the internet has made it easier to distribut
The problem is that most people who use a camera take snapshots, not photographs. Given the explosion in digital photography over the last decade, I'd wager that a vanishingly small number of times a shutter is pressed out of the billions total does it get pressed by someone who is trying to create art, whether commercial or otherwise.
Most people don't care about their photos, their snapshots. There's no effort to create them. There was no thought put into the composition, no setup to speak of
I applaud the parent poster for caring enough to make that effort, and for taking the time to defend their work against dilution. It's a mark of professionalism and high quality that likely pervades the rest of his operation.
The public does not realize that it costs potentially a lot of money and time to create professional images. Witness some of the comments on this Slashdot thread.
Witness this comment: I know precisely how much work can go into creating professional images - I've been to more than a few professional photo shoots because I have family members in the business - and the overhead of support crew and the time spent to get just a handful of perfect shots can be enormous (if the photog works that way). But copyright is not about how much effort goes into creating a work, if it did then the phone book would be copyrightable.
There will always be a market for commercial photography because it is by far a commission-based business. A world without copyright would be make stock-photography, which admittedly some people consider their bread-and-butter, less profitable but would have the effect of boosting the business for commissioned work since less stock photos would be available. Furthermore there will always be artistic photography because real art needs to express itself in the way irrelevant to money in the way artists like van Gogh did.
So, while I'm all for proper attribution, that doesn't mean that copyright in anything like its current form is necessary to the modern world. Even if it does personally benefit guys like the GP by protecting his business.
The only issue I have with your perspective is that to judge what is "art", "commercial art" and "just some snapshot" is rather subjective. Technically, they are all equally protected under the law, which I think is a good thing. I CHOOSE to release most of my personal, non-commercial photos under a very permissive license (I have put up over one hundred on Wikipedia, for example), but it is my choice to make.
My understanding that if you take a snapshot and publish it in the U.S., then it is copyright pro
Thank you. I'm a photographer that has some pics up on flickr and picasa, but I don't put my full best quality version of any image on either site ever. The moment I do, I know it's 100% completely and totally out of my hands, no matter what "technology" a site claims to have in place to prevent it.
Frankly, I LIKE that the web works that way. That's not a bug, it's a feature. It's the BEST feature of the internet. Anyone using the internet would be well served to learn how to use it to their advantage and h
So if you post a photo of yourself, your wife, your kids, or some other loved one, are you ok with some ad company using that photo in an ad campaign of theirs (no matter what the product) without asking for your permission or giving you any monetary compensation? I know I'm not. Just because I post something on the Internet doesn't mean I've given up my copyright ownership of the item.
Looking at something and copying it are two very different things.
(Albeit, it's literally impossible to look at something on the web without making a local copy, at least in RAM, which may be saved to a temporary file on disk and retained for years, or until the authorities toss out your hard drive because the retention period for evidence in your case has lapsed...)
Copying something and serving it to the public are two very different things.
Can we just make a rule that any image you post on the internet doesn't belong to you anymore? Anyone with any sense already figured that out a decade ago anyway.
Only if you want to see all of the professional and most of the amateur content on the internet yanked overnight. While the current "intellectual property" laws are absurd, reasonable, limited term copyrights do actually benefit both the creators and the common good.
Try this thought experiment: In the absence of copyright and also the absence of net neutrality -- we're 50% there already -- then everyone's creative work ends up being copied by a few large media corporations and made available only through their sites. Forget direct access; the handful of megacorporate ISPs won't provide it for sites that don't pay their fees. Forget about any payment or even credit to the creators. Independent creators are essentially frozen out, and the general public just gets the same kind of bland, focus group tested crap that ends up on television.
Thanks, but I'll pass. Comcast and Verizon are bad enough as they are. I don't want to find out what they'd be like with a monopoly on all networked content.
currently offline as we are improving the website
Nay ye scoundrels. Ye hath been slashdotted!
The web is full of landmines. They're going to download and repost something that someone who has good lawyers is going to demand they remove, and then they'll die... quietly.
Aha, you must mean email@example.com!
You mean they don't want email@example.com harvested by bots?
Why wouldn't they want firstname.lastname@example.com harvested by bots?
What's so wrong about firstname.lastname@example.com being harvested by bots?
I really don't understand why they don't want email@example.com harvested by bots.
Can someone explain to me what's so bad about firstname.lastname@example.com being harvested by bots?
Maybe I should write them, at email@example.com, to ask why they don't want firstname.lastname@example.com to be harvested by bots.
firstname.lastname@example.com !
I tried to reroute their encryptions by directly typing http://www.imagelogr.com/images [imagelogr.com] into the address bar, but it just gave me a 404 error. Maybe they already baleeted all the images.
It's kind of strange. Wouldn't you need a lot of money to be able to afford the resources that retrieving and storing all these images require? If you are willing to invest in that kind of operation wouldn't you at least consider the legal implications that kind of service needs to deal with?
"Coming soon!"
Is this an admission that they're not legal now? ^_^
If you want something completely under your control, you do not put it online. How hard is this?
I've never put Katherine Heigl online.
Your scheme is a fraud.
Okay, now the opposite:
If you don't want a work you created completely out of your control you copyright it, then you pursue infringement processes against those who willfully violate your rights. How hard is this? It isn't, except the owners of this site allegedly took a huge chunk of the images accessible via the web and did not respect the rights of their creators at all.
Many people are not asking for "complete control". Lots are just asking for attribution. Others want more than that and that's their ri
I like how they say they are trying to "make people happy" as if it's just some minor bureaucrat the need to appease when it's more like "we flagrantly broke the law and are trying to get out of Dodge!"
Doesn't information want to be free? If you're going to download movies and music without paying, why can't they scrape your images and serve them up to "whoever"?
The problem with your logic is that they aren't just scraping images from people that pirate movies, they're scraping images from everyone. Your question would be better posed as: Since everyone in the world downloads music and movies without paying, why can't they scrape your images and serve them up to "whomever?"
Revised, I think the question pretty much answers itself. Otherwise, in order for your question to have a logical foundation, everyone needs to be allowed to pirate music and movies, or they need
It was shorthand. The meaning I meant to convey was: "If you personally pirate movies/music/software then it would be hypocritical of you to complain about these guys stealing your pics."
The assumption being that some of the people crying foul about the pic stealing do, in fact, pirate music/movies/software, and are thereby acting hypocritically when they lament the pic stealing.
Yes, but this leaves out two important factors:
1) People who don't infringe media copyrights but post pictures to Facebook et al. Not a vanishing minority, btw.
2) People who infringe media copyrights, post pictures, and don't see it as hypocritical for any number of fractionally-assed reasons (or shallow rationales, if you wish).
The former category, you are obviously not addressing. So either you lack sympathy for them for some other unspecified reason, or don't care about them because their existence doesn't support the logic of your assertion. In the latter case, they're precisely what you're talking about, but they don't think they do. And denial is a powerful force.
Hell, a truly rational observer would conclude that hypocrisy might not be bad; that, in fact, it's an absolute requirement for social interaction. If you can act politely to someone you'd just as soon strangle, that's a mild (and socially necessary) form of hypocrisy.
I'll bet I know who's sending DMCA takedown notices...
What's her name, Tila Tequila? Cindy Margolis? All those chicks that claim they are the most downloaded on the internet, and *thats* their only claim to fame!
So, what's next, a business that scrapes every video and mp3 on the internet? Hey, this isn't a truck you can just dump stuff on, it's a series of tubes!
Imagelogr.com is an image & picture search engine. We try to index pretty much every picture & image currently available on the free internet. With our powerful search engine finding these images should be fairly easy. We also offer a few image manipulation tools to stand out from the competition.
From the main page. This is pretty funny.
I'm confused, but I haven't dug through their schema at all, so, if they're an index, don't they have some sort of cross-referencing information to tell you where the picture came from or what it's a picture of? If all they have is the picture and maybe its filename, what sort of searching can you do?
I'll soon have a few hundred TB of images [slashdot.org].
How can I get them to mirror my data, so I can offload the traffic to them?
The amazing part is how someone gets enough storage space to store every image on the web.
That sounds expensive to me.
Not if you use The Cloud.
And a lot of my work is on Flickr.
Well we'll see.
They know what they are doing is illegal. Why else would they use domains by proxy to hide their identity?
The only reason they blocked, ooopp...I mean "Imagelogr.com is currently offline as we are improving the website."
I am curious if their robots actually identified themselves or respected the robots.txt file.
My servers aren't scraping pictures, though.
I'm scraping all the *letters* off the entire web.
This should explain everything
The site is gone, and this explains why:
They were bullsh*tting everyone, almost daydreaming. Nothing was there, nothing was probably going to be there, they apparently didn't have anything like the resources for that sort of archiving.
They got caught in their bullsh*t, and chickened out. Bidda boom.
"No, no, I don't mind being called the smartest man in the world. I just wish it wasn't this one." -- Adrian Veidt/Ozymandias, WATCHMEN


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It is no longer a question of IF companies should execute a social media strategy.
This is a no brainer but so many people do forget the most basic. Responding to comments, engaging, or joining only to not use a social network, what? But a definite reminder since most are committing some of these daily.