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Old saying. Nobody ever got fired for buying IBM. Nobody ever got fired for buying Microsoft. Nobody ever got fired for buying SAP. It's a simple cover-your-ass game.
Managers, unless they have a very special bond with the company (like, say, they built it from the ground up) don't give a shit about the company. They care about their ass. And when the question is whether to blow a million of company money for software they don't know jack about but has a big name behind it, or to save the company a million bucks using software they don't know jack about but has no name to it, they blow them money.
Because they needn't explain why they did it. It's IBM/MS/SAP, how should he have imagined that it's no good?
Unless you can find a written policy forbidding it, just do it.
Its easier to get forgiveness than permission.
Chances are you won't find any policy, unless you work for a big bureaucratic compartmentalized organization. Even then, in the absence of a written prohibition, cost savings can sell the day as long as you provide a support contract. (Some how bean counters become blind to expenditures on support contracts that never ever get exercised).
Getting forgiveness is only available from C-Level on. Below, they just kick your ass out on the street.
Getting forgiveness is only available from C-Level on. Below, they just kick your ass out on the street.
In real life; almost never. You are going to have to check your own company carefully. Likely this will only happen in a really big company where you already had an explicit warning about open source. Make sure you read through all your IT policies. If there is an explicit one against open source in some way, then always act ignorant ask your manager before breaking it. "Hey, there's this really neat package Gimp which will let me make that special photo we need. It will save me thousands over buying P
Its easier to get forgiveness than permission.
Not always. Not everywhere.
My first instinct when a geek summons up a Slashdot meme to make his case is to do precisely the opposite of what he suggests.
My first instinct when a geek summons up a Slashdot meme to make his case is to do precisely the opposite of what he suggests.
But it isn't a slashdot meme - it is a Grace Hopper quote well known long before Slashdot existed, and rarely encountered on slashdot.
Oh, plenty of people have been fired for buying Oracle. Their enterprise apps are a bad joke.
The joke's on the poor sap dumb enough to buy them.
Their enterprise apps are a bad joke.
Oh, plenty of people have been fired for buying Oracle.
Their enterprise apps are a bad joke.
Yes, but they're such an *expensive* bad joke that it is too embarressing to too many important people to write off the cost, so usually, the system is kept and forced to work and declared a success.
If you fuck up a $100k contract, you'll be fired. If you fuck up a $10,000,000, people will work very hard to find a way to make it not look like a fuckup, especially if they've been involved in any way at all.
> Yes, but they're such an *expensive* bad joke that it is too embarressing to too many important people to write off the cost, so usually, the system is kept and forced to work and declared a success.
> If you fuck up a $100k contract, you'll be fired. If you fuck up a $10,000,000, people will work very hard to find a way to make it not look like a fuckup, especially if they've been involved in any way at all.
This. Generally true, I think, of any ridiculously expensive fuckup. What generally happens
Yeah, and I find it really funny that people think that way about Open Source. Who has managed to pin blame on a software company in any meaningful way? Who gets support that is guaranteed better than community support without paying for it? You can usually find consultants for any important OS software.
That's not even a requirement. I was puzzled by the same when I asked my first boss (back in the early 90s) why no chance to try Linux for some of our lesser important systems. His answer was, in all sincerity, "but who do we sue if it goes wrong?" I was sitting there as puzzled as you are, thinking "You want to sue MS over their crappy OS? Good fucking luck, idiot!"
Later I learned that this isn't even the point. The point is that you COULD sue them. You won't, of course, but you have someone to shift the b
In small businesses - often the best foot in the door for open source software is a pet project, something you can do transparently to design something to show management about the advantage of the software has over more traditionally licensed fare. Being able to speak the language of IT management helps - Cost of Ownership, Return on Investment, being able to present facts based on license costs is also helpful - management listens to dollars and sense, followed by legality.
Of course, if your business deals with large vendors who have a stake in keeping things locked to Microsoft, Oracle, IBM or HP - you are fighting a steeply uphill battle.
.Avoid terms with negative connotations, such as "GPL" and use the more acceptable term, BSD. As a hiring software developer, I know of what I speak.
That wouldn't work with my old boss, who would take any unfamiliar word and enter it in Google, and then hit the "Images" link for screenshots or easy to understand slides.
Suggesting BSD would then be career suicide.
The best way I know of suggesting free (as in breasts) software is to present it with the pricing for someone who sells support. If you can buy the support through the hardware vendor,all the better.
Which is one reason why there are so many IBM / Red Hat systems out there.
Well, if free is the problem, you can always cut a big check and send it me when you adopt such software. Of course I will channel all such funds received into furthering the benefit of mankind (or at least 1 man). I will even gladly give you a receipt for your "purchase"
i have been working in two of theand really big companies (both > 100k employees), one Japanese, one german.
in the Japanese company there was no strategy regarding software and "whatever works" was fine, which included open source.
the German company had the strategy to explicitly manage the obligations from open source. effectively the rules were:
Apache style, bsd style licenses and LGPL where white listed
GPL 3 was blacklisted
GPL needed special consideration (so kind of blacklisted)
Considering that those licenses all cover distribution I don't see the difference for an in company product. Especially since the difference between GPL and GPL 3 deals with preventing locked bootloaders. Now if you're doing embedded development or selling software, it's a completely different story. I don't agree with it, but I can see why companies want complete control of their products.
Doesnt gpl3 also have effects on web services? I thought it folded in agpl.
the German company had the strategy to explicitly manage the obligations from open source. effectively the rules were:
Apache style, bsd style licenses and LGPL where white listed
GPL 3 was blacklisted
GPL needed special consideration (so kind of blacklisted)
A company I worked for had the exact same policy. Though it was a bit more formalized in that if you want to use a not-previously-approved piece of software (commercial or open-source), the license and justification must be sent to Legal in order to vet it
inadverted creation of obligations:
-the matlab compiler signs code for execution. no GPL3 is compatible with it (even if they never mention the term "DRM" in the manual).
-what happens if a part of your software sits in controllers owned by your customer (for whom you develop) which logs data as a service offered to his customers? as long as you own the controller they dont need to pass the code on, but at whuch point should that happen?
-assume that you develop software to be delivered to a daughter company.
There IS no such thing as a free lunch.
Free as in speech, not as in beer.
There are many advantages to Free software, such as Freedom, being the microsoft doesn't have leverage over you. If your a large enough corp, you can write whatever features MS will never give you, or pay red hat to make them for you.
Until a data issue means you have to ship a database backup or large data file to the developer to reproduce and fix the issue, and you have no company to make a data confidentiality agreement with. Or the main developer is outside the company, because international law is a bitch.
Want to fix it yourself? Now you've signed up for internal maintenance unless you can get it accepted upstream. And without a repro, and bad data to test with, the need for the fix is not obvious.
As always, your circumstances wi
and you have no company to make a data confidentiality agreement with
Why can't you execute a data confidentiality agreement directly with the main developer as an individual contractor?
And without a repro, and bad data to test with, the need for the fix is not obvious.
If a patch is made with the intent to correct misbehavior, this implies that a cause of the misbehavior has been found. And once a cause is found, it shouldn't be too hard to generate fictitious data that likewise trigger the misbehavior.
and you have no company to make a data confidentiality agreement with
Why can't you execute a data confidentiality agreement directly with the main developer as an individual contractor?
And what if the developer says no? There may be many reasons for it - including legal obligations elsewhere (day job, say) that may prevent said developer from "commercializing" their work or even accepting money for the task.
Or even a non-compete, if you happen to be with a competitor of whom the developer works for (you pro
When I tried this with bigger companies, it was H*** on earth to try them to embrace Open Source. One of the business managers simply doesn't understand the concept of a free lunch.
There is no free lunch. There's just economies of scale, and sometimes a free ride.
It's like hitch hiking. If someone stops and picks you up, and is going the same way, you might get a free ride, otherwise it's "cash, ass or grass". If someone's already made some OSS that does exactly what you need, you get a free ride, otherwise you still have to put the work in or pay someone else, to turn it from what it is, to what you need. Sometimes that's a short walk, and sometimes it's a year long trek.
I've been on
There is no free lunch.
Except that every fork produced has a free Lunch Replication System built in nowadays.
It seems like the best bet is to not raise the question in the first place. Management doesn't need to know that Apache is free, for instance. And there are commercial and free versions of Nagios, Tripwire, Sendmail, and so forth. We have over half of our prod servers running Red Hat, for which we buy maintenance, but in the lab we run CentOS. The Open Source community realizes that companies have a compulsion to spend money, and there are companies that will sell you free software (think about that phrase for a minute...) to satisfy this requirement.
So in other words, put Open Source on the table just like any other software. Don't try to differentiate it as "Open Source", because if you do, decisions makers and stakeholders will wonder why you're putting extra effort into justifying it.
Put it up with a support contract and necessary consultants just like any other piece of software and you'll get approval.
Agreed. I take a dim view of managers that demand I "sell them" on what I think is the right choice.
It's their job to make decisions wisely, not my job to force what I consider wise decisions down their throat. I try to be honest about the pros and cons. If the choice lies within my authority, I try to make the best choice. If it's within their authority, then I hope they make the best choice. If they don't, that's their problem.
I guess this response must reek of someone who has little patience for fool
Don't try to differentiate it as "Open Source", because if you do, decisions makers and stakeholders will wonder why you're putting extra effort into justifying it.
Well, why put the extra effort into justifying it, then? What's the real answer? Is it because I have been brainwashed to like it, and must turn everything into OSS just because it's so awesome?
Consider the scenario:
Product A has technical features X,Y,Z
Product B has technical features X and Y (not Z).... but it's OSS!
Most decision makers will then ask, what's OSS? And when you get into the weeds of explaining nuanced differences in licensing, they'll quickly decide that the features outweigh the license benefits.
"Open Source," "Free [Software]," "Contribute," and "Development" appear to scare managers away.
Not where I'm working (a giant company). On the contrary, we are rather suspicious of commercial solutions — because their costs tend to run up pretty quickly (we have a large user-base) and their license terms often enough turn out to be rather enslaving (Oracle is particularly scary in this regard, from what little I've overheard from the company lawyers).
Sure enough, free software has its rough edges, but so does the commercial kind. And we have enough bright people to fix the problems (bugs or missing features) in the open-sourced packages, whereas with the proprietary stuff you are usually at the mercy of the vendor. We still use some commercial programs, but, when choosing a software solution, the program being proprietary is a negative, rather than a positive factor.
I wish, it remained possible to get the source for the commercial packages as well, but with modern attitudes towards theft of intellectual property as well as the wide-spread propensity to use the terms "free" and "open source" interchangeably, this is not an option...
3 Fortune 150 companies, and we always had someone who could get a support ticket opened to major vendor. I had to push a bit to find the contact, since this information is usually kept close to the chest.
Basic vendor rules are:
1) Be running the latest version
2) Be ready to upgrade to the next patch in order to have your bug fixed
3) All of the other patches, improvements, and bugs will be in the next version
These can be very limiting, and I would prefer to have the source even if all I do is submit a diff.
Of course it's generalised. Why? Because that's what people do, we generalise.
Why is a cheap Chinese product automatically assumed to be worse quality than an expensive USA made product?
Why are cheap games automatically assumed to be garbage compared to $80 titles?
Now given that inherent bias that fuels the many generalisations on cost, why should a free word processor be anywhere near as good as MS Word? It can't be, otherwise it would cost as much as MS Word right? People don't give away something for not
In my experience, showing a side-by-side demonstration of performance followed by the price will get your foot in the door. From then on, deliver and keep foot out of mouth. The low cost of setting up a demonstration of FLOSS makes this fairly simple with no need for a line-item on any budget.
For instance, in one school, I discovered the paid ILS was not working two years after it had been bought. The supplier just didn't bother to fix the problems. I installed KOHA in 15 minutes and showed it to the librar
Most managers who have had any dealings with a software rollout know two things:
First is that they won't actually get what they think they have specified
Second is that there will be problems (see point #1), overruns, differences between what's required and what's delivered and that getting the software functional is only a small part of the job. The rest is integration, training the users, supporting the thing for 5+++ years, implementing upgrades and bug-fixes
These managers also know that once a project has been signed off, the money has, just that moment, been spent. Companies don't think of money, they think of budgets - so once you have gone through the approvals process and got your budget and your go-ahead the project is effectively a sunk cost, but one that has not yet delivered anything. As a consequence the manager in charge of the project will be deemed to have failed if he/she needs to go back and ask for more, in order to deliver the project.
So, in their minds they want insurance - and indemnity - above all else. Even above cost savings. They want to know that in return for $<megabucks> that when things start to go wrong, their commercial relationship with "the vendor" entitles them to get support, advice, expertise, fixes, customisations, training, documentation and upgrades. Those will all form part of the cost-case and whoever approves the case will expect, maybe even require, that those items are included and form part of the contract. As they know that there will be the need to call upon those services. If all they get for using "free" software is a pile of code, then that is usually the smallest part of the project and often the least expensive, too. The real cost, over the project lifetime comes with all the extras and services they get from their vendor - but which "free" software is very poor at providing, and absolutely does not guarantee.
If you go to get approval for a project of any significant size, not having included those items will mark you out as, at best, a newby and at worse: completely unsuitable to be managing a project. It's like if you buy a car. The cost of the vehicle is only one aspect. The cost of servicing, fuel, taxes and depreciation are major factors that should be included in the plan. That they aren't is just an indication of how poorly most people approach a major purchase - and why they'd never make a project manager.
"No support contract."
Thus what they see is the possibility of problems that take days or weeks to resolve, while getting told STFU NEWB on some mailing list.
That's the experience many clients have had with FreeBSD, for example.
Particularly the STFU NEWB part. This is exactly the reputation open source software has.
Except often it goes like this:
NEWB: I have . How do I solve it?
List doesn't reply within 10 minutes.
NEWB: Look, I have to have this fixed by Monday. How do I solve it? If you don't solve it for me then I have to move to
List doesn't reply within 10 minutes. NEWB gets angry
NEWB: Its such a simple issue. I can't belive nobody can solve it. (Oh the irony). Bump bump bump.
List: STFU NEWB.
Don't expect support-contract-like behaviour from a list - remember they're volunteers, there's no "SLA" and they do
Some simple steps for success
I agree. Most lists and forums take a dim view of repeated questions, ones that are "obvious" and ones that the small minority of helpful posters feel are irrelevant. As you say, there is no guaranteed response time - if you get any response at all - and no guarantee that the responses you do receive will be correct or even on-topic.
Those are why people pay for support. Those are the factors that companies value and the time (equates very closely to money) taken to both supply the requested information, tr
You're absolutely right. However on a lot of high profile projects, that won't get you anywhere.
I remember a while back I was using a very high profile/popular data access library which shall remain nameless.
I found a fairly breaking bug in a semi-common scenarios. I poke at the mailing list, not asking for it to be fixed, but simply if it was a known issue, as again, it was a fairly common case, and I could pin point the exact snippet of code in the source where the issue was (but, being unfamiliar with the code base, couldn't easily fix it myself).
Instead of a simple "yes or no", I was more or less told to write a failing unit test or shut it, in not so nice words.
So I write the unit test, after taking several hours to find the exact guidance on how to write it (making a test for a database access framework that stays within the realm of unit test and not integration test differs wildly from project to project), I do so, submit it...all around half a day of work.
In the meantime, I patched up something on my end that worked (but it was a hack, so I couldn't really submit a patch) in a few minutes.
2 _years_ later, I see in my email that my bug report just got rejected because of a small mistake in my unit test (that still didn't change the main code path it was testing), and to this day the bug is still present, and whenever this is raised in on Stack Overflow or whatever, people just say its a scenario that isn't supported, even though you can see in the code that it should be, and its just a naive sort order mistake when looping through some array.
I wish it was an isolated case, but it basically is always like that unless you're inside the project's "clique" or you happen to find a bug that is particularly interesting to fix. Yes, they're just volunteers, but if they don't want their project to be of world class interest, then don't promote it as such.
TL&DR: Big projects with a lot of marketing pushes saying they're great for real production use, then don't support it as such, are far too common.
Well, that's about right, however, that's also the problem. In a professional setting, you expect support, and not just "when and if we feel like it". NEWB in this case may not have ever even heard of a message board or listserv. Someone says "support is here", he goes there, no one answers.
NEWB doesn't know or care about the theory of open software, building relationships with the list members, doing research on the code base, etc. He found a problem and wants it fixed, and wants som
Don't expect support-contract-like behaviour from a list - remember they're volunteers, there's no "SLA" and they don't work for you.
Ah, the old "bad behavior exists, therefore your example must be of the bad behavior"!
I've (repeatedly) seen people go on to these lists, ask a polite question, and receive STFU NEWB or analogue response very quickly.
Generally, the more difficult the question the more likely it is to receive this response.
Ever wonder why Stack Overflow is so popular? Volunteers there get im
Particularly the STFU NEWB part. This is exactly the reputation open source software has.
It's kind of understandable though. What if you went poking the Windows Kernel Team with questions like "how do I get this printer to work"? They would say "we don't have the time to help with that". Then you would contact a Microsoft support engineer and his response would instead be "I'm happy to help you, let's get started".
In open source world, commercial distros like Red Hat do have proper customer support in place, but various random open source projects do not have that kind of support options. You c
If graphics hackers are so smart, why can't they get the bugs out of fresh paint?


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$64K should be enough for anyone...I think you mean $65,535 (2^8-1).
Hint: even black marketeers demand money. These people simply engage in wholesale rip-off.
allofmp3.com was making money, wasn't it?Oh, puhlease. "legitmate market to get it" These people won't pay a friggin' dime. There's no "black market" as that assumes payment.
I think the "problem" with the radiohead site is you have to go through a specific place for that one album and navigate an unfamiliar site. People want one place to get whatever they want. That's a common factor between iTunes, Napster, allofmp3.com, and whatever filesharing network is in vogue currently.
more people downloaded it from illegal sources then pay the measly minimum of $1 (or pound I forget which) to get it legally
the doubters where right - more people downloaded it from illegal sources then pay the measly minimum of $1 to get it legally.
Doubters of what? This reminds me of Stephen King's "revolutionary" idea of paying to download to a book, which he declared a failure [wikipedia.org] because less than 75% of readers paid. That's an irrelevant benchmark. If radiohead makes more money this way than selling CDs through a label, they win. Whether more copies are pirated than purchased, or even whether online sales increases or de
The problem was caused by the record labels themselves.
Anytime you have something that people want, and you do not give them a legitimate market to get it, a black market will develop.
While your opening sentence is correct, and something I agree with, the reason you presented is IMHO not quite it.
IMHO (and little else), the reason folks download music for free isn't due to any 'black market'.
No, people think little of downloading music because they get music for free anyway in other formats. They get it for free by taping it straight off the radio, and have done so for decades. They get it for free off of the zillion "Music Choice" (or similar) television channels that come with e
Instead of sugared-up theories about why this happened, it's possible that the model simply won't work.
How can it not work? If anybody pays (or rather, if enough people pay to cover hosting costs) it's a win for the band. The model isn't about selling music, it's about using music as promotion. Smaller bands (some, like the Crimea, only a bit smaller) have been doing this for years. Even the 'name your price' angle isn't new.
The real model is to make your nut off the other stuff--concerts, merch, etc. T
(or rather, if enough people pay to cover hosting costs) it's a win for the band
Well that's fairly obvious, but this is not a Linux distro. Producing the music also costs money. Coming out even on the bandwidth used to distribute the music would not be enough.
Not true, or at least, not always true.
Historically, some genres have never sold enough CDs to really make much money that way, and those bands have made their money by touring. Other genres reverse this trend -- successful pop music, in particular, rakes in the bucks through CD sales and generally breaks even or even loses money on tour. Metal has always tended to make money on touring.
There's also a size component to this; the bigger the act the more likely they are to view touring as a promotional expense to boost CD sales, where the real money is made. The huge acts often turn their live shows into expensive extravaganzas of lighting, pyrotechnics, sets and costumes that make touring a net negative. The guy that managed U2 for Island records told me that their 1997 "PopMart" tour lost about 50,000 UK pounds per show, but that it was well worth it because of the effect on CD sales. Smaller acts are more careful about what they spend on their shows, and they work harder to push merchandise sales at shows (especially t-shirts, which for metal bands have historically been a major source of income).
It all comes down to questions of CD sales volume, concert attendance and the details of contract negotiations which determine how much of the take from the various enterprises goes to the band. You can't really make any kind of strong statements about how musicians make their money, because it varies too much.
That said, my expectation is that in the future even acts that currently make most of their money from CD sales will have to shift to a performance-driven approach.
My information, BTW, comes from a six-month stint designing a royalty-calculation engine for Universal Music. While there I spent lots of time talking with guys who negotiated and managed band contracts and payments from the label side.
Well that's fairly obvious, but this is not a Linux distro. Producing the music also costs money.
You are only right that it cannot be stolen because copyright infringement and theft are two entirely separately legal issues.
I'm seeding Ubuntu and Gentoo this very moment.
I don't think most people are that conscious of it though in regards to Radiohead. It's still easier and much faster to get it from a torrent rather than traditional download technologies. It makes total sense and they should have just charged people for a tracker and use BT anyways which would have lowered their operational costs while providing the same service.
The real question should be, how much money did they make in profit? Was it worthwhile? Would m
I actually tried to buy the album. I entered all the sensitive data
Translation:'The industry, rather than embracing digitalization and the opportunities it brings for promotion of product and distribution through multiple channels, has stuck its head in the sand. Radiohead's actions are a wake-up call which we should all welcome and respond to with creativity and energy.'"
Please, pretty please, please come back. EMI loves you. EMI is your friend. We miss you guys! Just another little contract, one short one! Please? Just sign it? Please? Pretty please?
Please, pretty please, please come back. EMI loves you. EMI is your friend. We miss you guys! Just another little contract, one short one! Please? Just sign it? Please? Pretty please?
Anyways, I didn't pirate it because my friend put it on my USB stick for me (fair use).
Hundreds of millions of people have the capability of getting a copy, without taking one from someone else, without spending a cent, without investing any materials, without incurring any risk. With less effort than wiping their ass. Asking them to pay for this nebulous thing they can have without cost to themselves or anyone else is essentially appealing to their sense of charity. Some will give, some won't. It has to be accepted because its inevitable.
You can hate the fact that the earth revolves around the sun. You can refuse to accept it. But its still going to happen without fail and there's not a damned thing you can do about it.
You're better off accepting it and enjoy the ride and save your sanity. Which appears to be what Radiohead has done, since they are ACCEPTING people offering NOTHING and still letting them download it.
andOver the following days, the file was downloaded about 100,000 more times each day--adding up to more than 500,000 total illegal downloads.
I can understand the "rushing-to-post-firsters" not R'ing TFA, but the editors? Come on guys, help us help you.That's less than the 1.2 million legitimate online sales of the album reported by the British Web site Gigwise.com.
On the first day that Radiohead's latest became available, around 240,000 users downloaded the album from copyright-infringing peer-to-peer BitTorrent sources, according to Big Champagne, a Los-Angeles-based company that tracks illegal downloading on the Internet. Over the following days, the file was downloaded about 100,000 more times each day--adding up to more than 500,000 total illegal downloads.
That's less than the 1.2 million legitimate online sales of the album reported by the British Web site Gigwise.com. But Eric Garland, Big Champagne's chief executive, says illegal file-sharing is likely to overtake legal downloads in the coming weeks...
I wanted to encourage them, and to send a message to other musicians that offerring music for direct download will definitely benefit them.
I compose for and play the piano, and offer my recordings for free download from my website - see my sig. I get a couple thousand downloads a month. My aim in offerring my music for free is to build up a fan base, so that in a few years, when I start playing professionally, there will be lots of people who know my music and will be tickets to my concerts.
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Quote from: vamrat on November 27, 2011, 11:43:18 PMThat was a pretty good mid-season finale.I really enjoyed it. I hear that one of the writers are saying that Dr. Jenner did not tell Rick that Lori was pregnant.PP
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Island at War, a British WWII drama mini-series from a few years back.
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All time favorites are ... Star Trek: Deep Space 9...
Quote from: David on December 31, 2011, 10:12:45 PMAll time favorites are ... Star Trek: Deep Space 9...+75 coolness points
There was also a show set in the Old West when they were building the railroad.
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I've been watching Michael Palin's BBC travel documentaries via Netflix. Finished Himalaya and Sahara and am now on to New Europe (ie. post-Soviet Eastern Europe). Next is Full Circle, which is a trip around the Pacific, and Hemingway Adventure, significant places in the author's life.
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I've just caught up with "Castle". Been watching "Lost Girl", "Grim" and "Vampire Diaries".Last week I watched a BBC series, "A History of Celtic Britain".
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Wu Zhao
the only woman to ever declare herself empress, she was a member of the Tang Dynasty; takes over when Li Shimin dies; she used trickery to get power, cuts taxes, raises salaries of government officials, encourages trade and buddhism, takes korea as a tributary state, reforms the civil service exams, builds more school for more job opprotunities, takes critism from Li Bo and improves, The only woman to ever declare herself empress, she was a member of the Tang Dynasty.
Civil Service
the group of people whose job it is to carry out the work of the government
an Asian temple
beautiful handwriting
Pax Mongolica
-Mongol Peace-used to describe the eased communication and commerce the unified administration helped to create, a phrase coined by Western scholars to describe the alleged stabilizing effects of the conquest of the Mongol Empire on the social, cultural and economic life of the inhabitants of the vast Eurasian territory they conquered in the 13th and 14th centuries
Ming Dynasty
the imperial dynasty of China from 1368 to 1644, A major dynasty that ruled China from the mid-fourteenth to the mid-seventeenth century. It was marked by a great expansion of Chinese commerce into East Africa, the Middle East, and Southeast Asia
Koryo Dynasty
Korean dynasty that ruled from 935-1392, Replaced the Silla Dynasty in Korea capital was Songak metal type print led to mass productionn of books also produced celadon
King Sejong
one of the great Yi rulers, ordered bronze instruments to be used in measuring rain, and created simplified writing
Tale of Genji
story of Prince Genji and his lovers, written by Lady Murasaki Shikibu at end of 11th century, world's first full novel, story of Prince Genji and his lovers, written by Lady Murasaki Shikibu; believed to be the world's first full novel
A popular type of Japanese drama combined with music and dance, it is the type of theatre in Japan(Played buy all male actors)
Tang Dynasty
the imperial dynasty of China from 618 to 907, dynasty often referred to as China's Golden age that reigned during 618 - 907 AD; China expands from Vietnam to Manchuria, Dynasty often referred to as China's Golden age that reigned during 618-907 CE
Song Dynasty
the imperial dynasty of China from 960 to 1279, (960 - 1279 AD); this dynasty was started by Tai Zu; by 1000, a million people were living there; started feet binding; had a magnetic compass; had a navy; traded with india and persia (brought pepper and cotton); first to have paper money, explosive gun powder; *landscape black and white paintings
philosophical system developed by of Lao-tzu and Chuang-tzu advocating a simple honest life and noninterference with the course of natural events
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Mongolian emperor of China and grandson of Genghis Khan who completed his grandfather's conquest of China
Yi Dynasty
Korean dynasty that opened schools and made neo-Confucianism the state doctrine, in Hanyang
Korean alphabet that uses 14 consanatns and 10 vowels for folktales and popular literatre
a clan; each clan had their own cheif, The Yayoi lived in these clans. The clans were headed by a single patriarchal figure who served as both a war-chief and as a priest. They had no system of writing or money; they dressed largely in clothes made from hemp or bark. Marriages were frequently polygamous, but women held a fairly prominent place in the society. The relationships were complex; slowly, territorial conflict gradually produced what came close to small states.
filial piety
in Confucian thought, one of the virtues to be cultivated, a love and respect for one's parents and ancestors
feudal Japanese military aristocracy
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a farming method involving the cutting of trees, then burning them to provide ash-enriched soil for the planting of crops
tributary states
independent state that has to acknowledge the supremacy of another state and pay tribute to its ruler, These are regions or colonies who become subordinates of a more powerful state as a means to control slaves and to provide exclusive trading rights to foreign regions.
Grand Canal
an inland waterway 1000 miles long in eastern China, The 1,100-mile (1,700-kilometer) waterway linking the Yellow and the Yangzi Rivers. It was begun in the Han period and completed during the Sui Empire. (p. 277)
Ying Yang
A Taoist Symbol That shows the balance of right and wrong., Forces of nature, yin- negative, weak, dark, female. yang- bright, positive, strong, male. Each balance each other out, needs to be perfect.
Genghis Khan
Mongolian Emperor whose empire stretched from the Black Sea to the Pacific Ocean (1162-1227)
Zheng He
An imperial eunuch and Muslim, entrusted by the Ming emperor Yongle with a series of state voyages that took his gigantic ships through the Indian Ocean, from Southeast Asia to Africa. (pp. 355, 422)
Prince Shotoku
first prince of Japan, 593 C.E., Japanese regent, he was one of Japan's greatest leaders. He was influential in bringing Buddhism and Chinese ideas to Japan.
Yamato Clan
Only family to hold the title of emperor in Japanese history
Japanese system of writing with simplified Chinese characters that are used phonetically
traditional code of the Japanese samurai which stressed courage and loyalty and self-discipline and simple living
the Oceanic language spoken by the Maori people in New Zealand
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2400 west in the pacific, large stone head figures
Chinese philosopher (circa 551-478 BC), Chinese philosopher, administrator, and moralist. His social and moral teachings, collected in the Analects , tried to replace former religious observances
In China, the class of prosperous families, next in wealth below the rural aristocrats, from which the emperors drew their administrative personnel. (166)
the ancient indigenous religion of Japan lacking formal dogma
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In 1899 the 5 Moore children were murdered. Injuries inflicted were throats cut, an axe to the head and the house set on fire....all by their father.
Carl, Mary, Pearl, Charlie & Lee Moore ranged in age from 3 to 13.
I have been on an emotional journey researching this tragedy. One sad piece is it appears that they sleep in an unmarked grave at Eastside Cemetery here in Hutchinson, KS. It has been a winding road of census records, marriage records, interment sheets, lot cards, many newspaper articles, prison and court records and I'm still not finished.
I brought this to the board meeting of our genealogical society on Monday with the hope that we will make this one of our community connections project and have a headstone placed on the gravesite.
A news article tells about the burial of the 5 white caskets in the EAST part of the cemetery. The interment sheet lists them in lot 851. They are not on the 851 lot card and this lot is in the WEST part of the cemetery. [Eastside has a small number of lots with duplicate numbers]. 851 A is in the EAST part of the cemetery. They are not on this lot card either but I feel this is where they are since their grandfather is in the lot next to it.
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LACEY TOWNSHIP, N.J. (AP) - New Jersey's pigskin-prognosticating camel has died just weeks before the state is set to host its first Super Bowl.
Princess was a fixture at the Popcorn Park Zoo in Lacey Township for 10 years and gained fame for picking winners.
Zoo manager John Bergmann tells the Asbury Park Press the 26-year-old Bactrian camel was euthanized after arthritis made it impossible for her to stand.
Princess' made her picks with graham crackers. Bergmann would hold one in each hand, marked with the names of the competing teams. Whichever hand she chose was her prediction.
Princess correctly picked the Baltimore Ravens in last year's Super Bowl. Her best run came in the 2008 season, when she picked 17 of 22 games correctly, including the Pittsburgh Steelers to win Super Bowl XLIII.
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Professor Hydén continues with enumerating "at least three strange things in a strange trial" (translation): First, that someone can be sentenced for being accessory to a crime for which there is no main culprit: "This assumes someone else having committed the crime, and no such individual exists here... the system cannot charge the real culprits or it would collapse in its entirety." It is unprecedented in Swedish judicial history to sentence only an accessory. Second, that the accessories should pay the fine for a crime committed by the main culprits, "which causes the law to contradict itself." And third, that accessories cannot be sentenced to harsher than the main culprit, which means that every downloader must be sentenced to a year's confinement. Prof. Hydén sums up by saying that to allow this kind of judgement the Swedish Parliament must first pass a bill making this kind of services illegal, which it has not done.


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Or come with a free case included in the box?
that does not matter.
what matters is that you will not have the most recent version of the iphone anymore.
you have to buy the new one.
Not "obsolete in three weeks", but perhaps "$100 less two months from now"
I love your attitude, I'm going to wait until the iPhone 6 comes out, then iPhone 4's will be cheaper again and I'll be able to go "nah nah" to you!
I wonder if it comes in white?
Pff... it never comes in white at first. That's why I'm always having to run out and replace mine a year later, to the get white one.
Rumors for nerds - stuff that may or may not be true.
Originally rumors had stated that the iPhone 5 had already started production back in March
But these new rumors are definitely accurate!
Look at all these rumors surrounding me every day
I just need some time, some time to get away from
From all these rumors, I can't take it no more
My best friend said there's one out now about Steve Jobs and the next iPhone
I wonder if you'll be able to
I wonder if you'll be able to
It's a phone, dear. If I wanted to
EVERYTHING is or contains a computer today. When a company manufactures a phone and advertises it gives a user the ability to do Linux-y things, it's just their way of trying to get the "ge
"and play Angry Birds" - an unforeseen use for a the locked down device they want me to shup up and put up with, which could never have become popular if not for third parties like GameLoft getting their heads around programming Symbian (yuk! but worth it!) and selling the results "back in the day".
Let me introduce another few unforeseen uses for phones - VoIP, laptop tethering, camera phones, and so on.
The age of innovation is over when you can't innovate at home, with nothing but the computer itself. That
I wish Richard Stallman could turn up and defend my corner on this one...
You probably have a rounded corner. If he showed up, you could be both be sued for violating Apple's design patents. Try using a perfect, 90 degree corner.
Then say "Linux" three times and he'll show up to correct you that it should be "GNU/Linux." That's how you summon him, right?
The age of innovation is over when you can't innovate at home, with nothing but the computer itself.
Here's what slashdot geeks don't seem to get: The existence of iPhones doesn't stop you buying the kind of mobile general purpose computer you want. So why the hysterics that there are different people with different preferences out there? Is it some kind of RMS led religion?
Here's what slashdot geeks don't seem to get: The existence of iPhones doesn't stop you buying the kind of mobile general purpose computer you want.
I wouldn't have thought slashdot geeks were iphone owners, or people that had no mobile computing device. I would've characterised them as being Android or Maemo users.
Too bad the folks at Droid didn't realize until too late that they could have captured the same "geek" buzz -- and more of it -- more inexpensively by just shipping a bunch of phones with "limited edition" Bobba Fett cases.
I was 100% with you until you misspelled Boba Fett. Unforgivable.
But why would I want to? It's a phone and a computing device with a specific (marginally expandable) use. I can't
If you want a little computer, go get a an OQO, or a computer-like device that lets you customize based on android. If you feel left out because you can't have a cool looking iPhone, well I can't help you there. Don't worry, though, I don't f
I wonder if you'll be able to
The question you should be asking yourself is, "Why would I buy a product that lacks a feature that I want?"
If you want a cool looking phone, that can play angry birds, and that you can install your own stuff on, get an Android-based phone, not an iPhone.
Cell phones have been small computers for a very long time now, and have all had varying degrees of lockdown.
Heck, I had one of the first phones with a color screen and Verizon forced you to hack into it just to load your own pictures into it.
You want to get worked up about lockdown when there are other non-locked-down choices available? That's just pointless.
And in the same way, why should anyone care about Microsoft's proprietary software and dubious business practises when they can just build their own computers and use Linux?
Oh, wait, that's a pro-MS rather than pro-Apple argument and so it's just a troll/flamebait.
Instead of complaining [slashdot.org] about the iPad costing a few thousand publishing jobs, why not ask why there are no companies in the US which can do the fabrication (cost-effectively!) on US soil to take over from the Tsunami-damaged areas of Japan...
You can't just churn out iPhone from any old factory, they have to be tooled up which is a major part of the manufacturing costs. Machines have to be reconfigured, software implemented, staff instructed, quality test procedures put in place and tried out on a sample run etc. Even if a Japanese factory making LCDs is shut down for three months it wouldn't make sense to move it to the US, and chances are the contract is for x number of screens and they can't just say "we are moving to the US permanently now".
Aren't Apple rumor posts basically slashdot mods trolling anymore?
My first AT&T subsidized iPhone was the 4 I got last summer at launch. Since they'll give me a sub'd phone every 18 or so months (I'm eligible in December), this just means less time for me to be _not_ on the cutting edge of the release cycle.
"What software Jennifer Lopez uses?"
The i-me, with the i-myself add-on.
When I started buying computer magazines, they mainly had articles about BASIC programming and 6502 and Z80 assembler. The world moves on.
Do not do this. [theoatmeal.com]
'cause that wouldn't be right.
For the record I have an Android phone and tablet (as a customer) and have had no real problems, assuming getting used to a new UI and poor battery life would apply to any smartphone.
Apple is obviously amazing!
I mean, how else would it get free publicity for a possible upgrade to almost each object they sell?
Don't get me wrong, I like their hardware and use some of it, but the hardware is NOTHING compared to their marketing... (well, actually their hardware/software solutions ARE extremely good in most cases, but posts in almost all blogs and newspapers over what will probably be an incremental upgrade... madness)
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Saturday, February 14, 2009
Seated on a couch in a Georgetown hotel lobby, Indiana Pacers forward Danny Granger reached down and pulled up his pant leg to reveal a two-inch scar on his right shin. It's from a bullet that ricocheted off a street and grazed his leg when he about 12.
Granger had been hanging out with friends in a dangerous neighborhood just outside of New Orleans that his father, Danny Sr., had warned him to stay away from. Granger, who was not the target, dove to the ground in horror during the drive-by shooting, which left behind a permanent lesson.
Granger never told his stern and overprotective father about the incident for fear of punishment. He just patched himself up and limped home. "Back then, I was so afraid to tell my dad, I didn't really think about it. Now, when I look back, I got lucky that I didn't get killed," said Granger, who wears a protective pad on his leg during games.
Granger, 25, has overcome much -- from escaping a drug-infested area in Metairie, La., to dealing with the pain of having his mother leave the family when he was a teenager, to later having a close friend commit suicide in college -- to become a first-time all-star this weekend in Phoenix. But when asked to name his greatest hurdle to NBA stardom, he didn't hesitate. "Convincing myself that I was good enough," said Granger, a fourth-year forward who ranks sixth in the NBA in scoring at 25.4 points per game.
"Some of the players that started off as big recruits, everybody always gave them their confidence. You got so many people telling you you are going to be good, you start believing it, like, 'Yeah. I really am good.' It works the opposite way when people are telling you, 'You are not good enough.' Sometimes it can mess with your mind."
Granger was lightly recruited coming out of Grace King High School, overlooked until late by Louisiana State and offered scholarships by just Birmingham-Southern and Bradley. His strong academic record and 30 ACT score also led to a financial package offer from Yale. The elder Granger pleaded for his son to get an Ivy League education, but Danny said he felt uncomfortable on his visit and elected to study civil engineering at Bradley. Even though he was Bradley's leading scorer as a sophomore, Granger said he never seriously thought about playing in the NBA. He often was the pessimist whenever his teammates discussed making it to the league. "When they would talk about the NBA I'd say: 'Y'all know the statistics of people going to the NBA. It's very low. You might as well use this to get a degree, so that you don't have hoop dreams your entire life,' " Granger said.
After a coaching change at Bradley, Granger transferred to New Mexico for his final two seasons. He still didn't fully grasp his potential, even after leading the Mountain West Conference in scoring as a junior at 19.5 points -- even after the Lobos coach at the time, Ritchie McKay, told him that NBA scouts were watching and that Granger could someday share the spotlight with the likes of Kobe Bryant and LeBron James. "He said, 'Coach, if I'm just on the bench [in the NBA], I'll be happy,' " McKay said. "But [his success] was inevitable by the way he works. He was never satisfied."
The summer before his senior season, Granger earned $10 an hour, five hours a day, four days a week, working at an Albuquerque racetrack, getting quarterhorses to the starting gate and cleaning the track. He had been working at that job since he arrived in Albuquerque because Bradley refused to release him from his scholarship, forcing him to pay for his first year at New Mexico.
When Danny's father found out that he was still spending his summers at the horse track instead of working out at the gym, he immediately went to the bank, withdrew $5,000 and flew to New Mexico. "I said, 'You have NBA potential, you don't need to be picking up manure, you need to be in the gym,' " Danny Sr. recalled. "That's the kind of stock that I had in Danny."
Granger quit his job and hit the gym. And McKay eventually persuaded Granger to attend longtime NBA assistant Tim Grgurich's camp for NBA and college players in Las Vegas. His father tagged along and was awestruck by NBA stars such as Jermaine O'Neal, Rasheed Wallace and Paul Pierce and coaches such as George Karl and Rick Carlisle. While Granger was slowly building his confidence, his father was seeking autographs.
Near the end of the camp, Granger spotted him and told him to put away the pen and pad. "You don't need to get their autographs," he told his father. "I can handle this. I'm going to be a star."
Granger suddenly believed. "Now that I have that confidence, it's over," said Granger, who signed a five-year, $60 million contract last October. "Right now, I don't think nobody can stop me. Even if I have a bad game, it's not because somebody played good defense, it's because I did something wrong. That's the way I look at it."
Danny Sr., now retired after owning a business repairing backhoes and forklifts, raised his three kids to have successful careers after his ex-wife and their mother, Janice, left the family in 1998. Granger's older sister, Jamie, is an engineer in Phoenix and his younger brother, Scott, has been a background singer for Alicia Keys and is currently on tour with "American Idol" winner Jordin Sparks. (Danny Granger's great aunt is legendary gospel singer Mahalia Jackson, but he said he didn't inherit her musical talent.)
Granger said he has had sporadic conversations with his mother and hasn't spoken with her in more than a year. "It's difficult. It's funny when you're in the NBA, a lot of people try to come into your life. Nobody is trying to get out of your life," Granger said, turning away, voice drifting.
When the Pacers selected him 17th overall in 2005, Granger said he paused for a second after shaking David Stern's hand to think about Bill Feeney, his best friend at New Mexico. Feeney hung himself before the two could make their debut for the Lobos. "That was one of the hardest things I had to deal with, emotionally. It hit me so hard because we were so close," Granger said. "It took a long time to get over."
Granger has watched close friends from his old neighborhood make bad decisions, too. Some sold drugs, including one friend Granger said is in a Texas prison and in a wheelchair after getting shot 18 times. Granger credits his father for keeping him focused on academics and basketball as a kid. "He just wanted me to stay straight, get out of the neighborhood and have a good life. He never wanted me to sell myself short," Granger said.
To keep an eye on his son -- not necessarily to groom an NBA player -- Danny Sr. built a 60-by-40-foot court in a lot next to his house, using a rim donated from a local school.
He would often rough up his son on the court, at times pushing him to tears. He also recruited the toughest kids on the block to test Danny with physical one-on-one games, nodding in approval whenever he traded elbows and hard fouls. Now that tough love has produced an all-star.
"I feel definitely blessed with how far I've come," Granger said. "I'm so grateful for the journey that I've taken to get here. Lord knows, it's been hard."
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Story highlights
- Gunman's family offers prayers for surviving victim
- Claire Davis is stable, but in a coma, her family says
- The horse-loving senior "wouldn't hurt a fly," classmates say
- Davis didn't know the student who shot her in the head, police say
Friends of Claire Davis, the 17-year-old senior critically wounded in Friday's shooting at a Colorado high school, are wondering why bad things happen to good people.
Davis is in a struggle for her life at a hospital in Littleton, near Arapahoe High School, where a classmate shot her in the head.
She remained in critical condition Sunday.
"She is stable, but is in a coma. The first responders got Claire to the right place, at the right time, and the doctors and hospital staff are doing a wonderful job taking care of her," her family said in a statement.
"We appreciate your continued good thoughts and prayers, and will provide updates as her condition improves."
Among those praying for Davis is the family of Karl Pierson, the 18-year-old senior who police say shot her. In a statement released Monday afternoon, Barbara and Mark Pierson said Davis and her family "have suffered unimaginably, and we pray for her full recovery."
"As parents, we loved our son Karl dearly and we are devastated by what happened Friday. We cannot begin to understand why Karl did what he did," the Piersons said. They also offered prayers "for the entire Arapahoe High School community, as we know your lives are forever changed by this horrific event."
Police say Pierson was looking for revenge against a librarian, but couldn't find the faculty member and killed himself as a school resource officer closed in. Davis was just a random victim, police surmised, and the gunman and victim didn't even know each other.
Davis' classmates spoke well of her. They used words like spunky and bright.
"She was just a very sweet girl. She's really smart," August Clary told CNN affiliate KUSA. He said Davis loves to ride horses and "wouldn't hurt a fly."
Hundreds of people attended a vigil for Davis on Saturday night.
Katie Snively, a senior at Arapahoe, said it was important to honor and pray for Claire.
Many people were tweeting to the hashtag #prayforclaire.
"Claire is a hero. our hero. she deserves to be rewarded not only with thanks, but with another chance at life," Aidan Loughran wrote.
"Thank God for waking us up again and for keeping Claire through the night. Don't forget to pray as we wake up this morning," Jonathon Bailey tweeted Sunday.
Davis' father told CNN affiliate KMGH late Saturday that his daughter is "not doing very well." The station said doctors are worried about swelling to her brain, according to a family friend.


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Is this still true, or did it only apply to older hardware? I've ran X in 920x690 mode with no problems, 690 isn't a multiple of 128.
One of the popular VGA modes was 320x256 (which is in the 5:4 ratio). It meant that you could have an array of scanlines, and index them with a single byte (with no wastage).
What programs used that screen mode? 320x200 was the standard mode for games (mode 13h). 320x240 was available with a hack ("Mode X"). Neither of these are multiples of 128, and I've never heard of 320x256 being used.
Pity my laptop only does 1024x768... but I did need a machine I could carry around.
http://developer.webtv.net/design/res olution/ [webtv.net]
BTW, if you're looking at the 5000 (slimmer, not as expandable version of the Inspiron 7500) think very carefully about a Celeron or something else that runs cooler. My 7500 is incredibly stable and stays reasonably cool, but the PIII/650 Inspiron 5000's my company bought have real heat problems. Your lap getting uncomfortably warm is one thing, but having drive and cpu flakiness that trashes a filesystem when you run it too hot is a little outside what I'd consider acceptable. If you can hack the extra weight grab the 7500.
If you do want the 5000 look at Sceptre [sceptre.com]. They source the chassis from the same manufacturer Dell does.
If you're out there Mr. GuzisSIMCGA - Simulate CGA with Hercules Monochrome Card
Written in September 1986 by
Chuck Guzis
153 North Murphy Ave.
Sunnyvale, CA 94086
This memory-resident utility allows you to "fool" most software requiring a Color Graphics Adapter into using your Hercules (or compatible) monochrome adapter in the graphics mode. Graphics images are reproduced in normal aspect ratio, using as much of the available screen area as is possible.
The trick used here is to program the HGC to display more lines of 3 lines per character time instead of 4 (The CGA displays 2). A service routine hooked into the hardware timer interrupt (int 8) copies one line to the third displayed line to give a filled-out image.
WWJD -- What Would Jimi Do?
Tell me what makes you so afraid
Of all those people you say you hate
The comments about memory adderssing make sense for the horizontal size, but not necessarily for the vertical. That said, it is definitely easier to get a 4040-like counter to reset every 1024 ticks than every 960 ticks - but this is trivial.
I think the reason may be that older systems actually used 24-bit color, often with no underlay/overlay/alpha channel. This gives 3 bytes per pixel, for a total of 3.75 Meg for the display. This fits comfortably within a 4M framebuffer. The next higher multiple of 128 for the horizontal is 1408, with a 1056 vertical (for 4:3), and that is too much for a 4M framebuffer.
I know that back in 1987 (and probably before), the SGI Iris (with a whopping 25MHz R3000 and 32M RAM!) had a 1280x1024x24bpp display. (of course, that was 24 bits color, 24 bits z-buffer, 2 bits overlay, 2 bits underlay, and another 24bit+24bit rendering buffer, for a total of 100 bits/pixel!)
This may be another one of those "They're doing it, so we might as well, too" kind of things.
Don't tell me how hard you work. Tell me how much you get done. -- James J. Ling


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Wednesday, October 22, 2008
Day 144 - Oct 22, 2008
It's also terribly frustrating to have to deal with pay issues for both Kevin and myself. His pays are terribly messed up and mine are non-existent. I have not seen one cent of the per diem for food and toiletries that I am supposed to have received since we arrived here two months ago. This would be a good time for me to say "Thank You" once again because we would be destitute without all of the help we have received. We honestly would not even be able to eat right now without the donations y'all have sent. Thank you so much!
And then I have to somehow find it in myself to accept being homeless. On Monday, all of our things will be moved into a storage facility. In all of my life I have never been in this situation. I have never not had a home. An address.
And yes, I know I have tons of friends and family members I can stay with, but it's just not the same.
And even scarier? How do you get a new home without a job? When we walk out of the hospital, how do you get a loan or rent an apartment when you don't have a job and haven't for all this time? I can assure you that landlords don't want to rent to someone without an income. And nobody will give a loan (esp in today's economy) when you haven't had your job for less than a year.
Ahhh...all these things just piling up. See? It's just no wonder I am in a weird frame of mind right now...
So anyway, moving on to Kevin...his head size came down some today. The neuro docs are thinking that this may just keep on happening to him. So it's going to be normal for him to get sick and his ICP to go through the roof possibly forever. I sure hope it becomes less frequent at least. It's been every other week or so and it's hard on him each time it happens. Something that kinda scares me about it too is that it won't be as obvious whenever he has his cranioplasty. Once his titanium skull is put in place, we won't see the shunt working or not working. At that point, I will have to rely on the other symptoms - vomiting, lethargy, etc. Gosh, I hope I am on the ball enough forever to see things clearly. It would be devastating to not see these things in time.
We did get Kevin down to my house today for dinner too. He fought it at first, but then he did well. He always hams it up in front of people at the house and he had a great audience tonight, lol. Once of the local churches supplied dinner tonight.
And I know I have some questions that need addressed, but I think this post is long enough so I am going to wait until tomorrow. I do want to thank everyone for your words of encouragement though. Sometimes it's really lonely here and during those times I always turn to the comments to feel like I have friends nearby.
And I feel bad for my friend, Tracy, as she is having to deal with me like this, lol. But I'm sure I will be better tomorrow.
Oh and Chuck? Thanks for listening to me whine on the phone today. I promise our next phone call won't be so bad, lol!
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I think you were waiting for Tracy...to just collapse in her arms. She is your wonderful friend, has been forever and I think she is probably honored that she is there for all three of you when you need her the most.
I no longer get the newspaper each night, but I happened to pick one up today. On the front page of the Butler Eagle right at the top was Kevin's wonderful smiling face. Kim Paskorz, an Eagle Staff Writer did a wonderful job writing the article on Kevin.
I have to tell you that last night's blog post from Jeff...was terrific. I hope we all read it again and again. It is so true.
Hang in there Leslie. You and Brianna are doing such a wonderful job.
Kevin..you are REMARKABLE. If one day you are taught to say miracle and don't remember what that word means...just have someone hold up a mirror and look at yourself in it.
YOU, Kevin Kammerdiener, are for sure a miracle...in progress.
I never miss reading your blog each day. I wish we could send you the magical words to help you. Just know we all care so much and are with you in spirit. I'm so sorry this is happening to all of you.
- October 22, 2008 at 10:33 PM
Hello, you don't know me. I am a Gulf War 1 vet and I am from the south. You remind me so much of our strong southern women. In the face of the worst sh8t they bite thier lip and take charge with a strong hand, get the he!! out of my way attitude and a love that one can never know
i have been reading your blog for some time and have never wrote before. just know there are many many people you don't know that have you in thier thoughts.
Stay strong. We men act tough but in the end we need our mom.
oh and sorry Kev. go Navy beat Army
- October 22, 2008 at 10:35 PM
You are so much stronger then you think...you always find a way to push on you will notice any change in Kevin when the shunt isn't in sight! Because you are a WONDERFUL MOM!!!!
Hang in there!
Kevin keep up the Awesome work....You are AMAZING!!!
Fillmore Utah
- October 22, 2008 at 10:51 PM
- Vicki C said...
Chin up sweetie.. each day will get better.
I cant imagine how you are feeling about the "home" thing.. but you have lots of people who love you... always rembmer that!
- October 22, 2008 at 11:16 PM
I so often think to myself as I read your blog..how does she do it? Try not to let all the outside worries weigh you down (easy for me to say!)..you can't change them right now and the worry will wear you out. Look at that incredible son and daughter of yours-and look at yourself-a mother that has held her family together through thick and thin-and she'll keep right on doing it! Remember that when you're feeling low..and what an inspiration you are to all who know you and those of us that have met you here on your blog. Hugs and hope for a better day.
- October 23, 2008 at 6:09 AM
- Jodi said...
Hi Les,
I can't say I know EXACTLY how you are feeling, but with all my medical issues, I know how it feels to be in a financial bind. I am so sorry you have those burdens as well as worrying about Kevin. You shouldn't have to. The Army should take care of you forever. I wish I had all the money in the world so you would never have to worry again. But, you are an amazingly strong lady and you WILL make it thru this. Look at you now! You never expected to be in this situation, but look how fantastic you have handled it for the last 144 days! Kevin would not be in as good of shape as he is right now if it weren't for you and Breezy! You and Breezy are AMAZING ladies. Never forget that! And yes, you do have tons of family and friends that would/will/do help you in a heartbeat. And never forget, now you even have MORE/new friends and "family" out here that love you 3 and will do whatever they can to help. Just take one day at a time Les, and each day will come and go, and you will be okay. You WILL be okay.
Kevin - Keep fighting kiddo. You are pretty amazing yourself. Never give up! We are rooting, pulling, and praying for you out here.
EXTRA healing and positive thoughts for Kevin.
EXTRA strength for Leslie and Breezy.
Safe thoughts for all military personnel and strength for their families.
EXTRA big hugs and love for all 3 of you!!!
All my love,
Andrew's Aunt Jodi
- October 23, 2008 at 7:50 AM
Dear Leslie,
I can not believe that you guys of all people are not being paid on time and I am so disappointed in the Army right now.
Please, I know you do not like to ask for help, but I think you should take your story to the media…I think "The Today Show" , "Good Morning America" and who ever else comes to mind…
Not just do you need (and deserve) the support of the country your son was fighting for but I think you will be an inspiration to so many other moms that have to deal with the same issues …
In my book you are a hero and I am sure that things will turn around for you…
All my prayers are with you and your family…
Tina Dwyer (El Paso, TX)
- October 23, 2008 at 8:08 AM
Hey its me again Les, I don't know how you do it but you are wonderful and you need to let go. Its ok that why we are FRIENDS. Kevin is an amazing young man and he got that way from his Mom, honey. We love ya and I am going to get a paper, I worked 24 yesterday and missed it. Love ya bunches Pam
- October 23, 2008 at 8:40 AM
Leslie, you are an inspiration to many of us out there. Keep your chin up and trudge forward one day at a time. We love you and you know that if you ever need anything, you can count on me!!
- October 23, 2008 at 9:44 AM
I think that Tina Dwyer has an excellent idea as far as going to the media with your story. It is a shame that our heroes and their families should have to wait in order to get what they need in order to survive everyday life. Sometimes you have to fight (sort of) with the government in order to get what you need. If and whenever you need to vent, do so and NEVER feel bad. That is what we are all here fore. Kevin, you and Breezy are an inspiraration to MANY people. There are probably alot of people, including myself, who could not do what you do everyday. tHE THREE OF YOU ARE IN MY PRAYERS DAILY INCLUDING aLLAN.
- October 23, 2008 at 10:41 AM
- Jessica said...
It sounds like everything is hitting you all at once. You're under so much stress, and in an unpredictable situation. I can see how scary it must be. Just keep doing what you're doing and try to take each day as it comes. You have great instincts when it comes to Kevin's issues, so I have no worries in that respect.
I'm glad you told us about Kevin's pay not coming through, so now I can pray about it. If there's anybody I need to write to or petition, let us know!
I love what Abe Lincoln said: "The best thing about the future is that it comes one day at a time." The Lord will sustain you through this; I can't imagine how many dozens, or even hundreds, of people are praying for you, Kevin and Breezy!
- October 23, 2008 at 4:59 PM
I just wanted you to know that I waited for the paper yesterday and the article was GREAT!! I also wanted to tell you that you need to keep your chin up! You guys are wonderful...and give people back home (and all over the world) hope. You guys have shown all of us how perserverance, determination, and most of all love can get you through anything. Keep up the good work and don't worry about living arrangements...you are right where you are supposed to be right now!! Stay strong!!
- October 23, 2008 at 7:58 PM
Hey, Les! It's been a long time since I've talked to you . . . too long! Kim came back to work with pictures of you guys and I have to tell you, you looked so happy with your baby! I can't even imagine what you are even going through right now, but from reading what everyone has written and what Kim has said, you are really strong. A mother's love is the stongest bond on this earth and Kevin can feel your love and support . . . you can see it in his face! When you get back around this way, if you need ANYTHING, you let me know! Keep doing what you're doing because it's working! Love ya, Jackie (MCAHS 1983)
- October 23, 2008 at 8:17 PM
- Lil Tinker said...
I am a proud mother and giving my children a home is part of how I identify and judge myself so I completely understand your frustration and I don't think any of your family or friends feels that you are not grateful to them but we want a home to call our own when we are moms and WOMEN! As to a house and a job, you call me when you are getting settled with Kevin out of the hospital. My job is development with a non-profit and I know a lot of financial people that are sensitive to the needs of our troups and their families. While I may live in a tiny town now, that makes it even easier as we have small hometown banks where the bankers know each other and their communities. We can get this done.
Give my email address to your friends back home and have them email me, if they want and I will help set up some fundraisers too. I will fly to where you are from and meet with them and local business and see what we can get going. My best friend's husband is an O3 for the Army and stationed at the Pentagon. Tell me what issues you are having and I will see if he can help you too.
My email is firstname.lastname@example.com
Hang on Leslie. We are here for you!
- October 23, 2008 at 8:58 PM
Oh Leslie I am so sorry to hear all the problems you are having with money down there. I ferel so bad for you guys. I will send a extra pray that way again. I sent out a package for Kevin and you. Hope he enjoys it. Lori Corson From Pittsburgh
- October 23, 2008 at 8:59 PM
Ma'am you don't know me. I am on Activ dutyright now. I would like to help you with your situation.
Please contact me through this email: firstname.lastname@example.com This will get you my wife and she will provide you my military email and phone number. Please eail when you get this. I currently work at the Pentagon I'm sure I can help. Tell your son I am proud of him and I would like to thank him for everything. I'm also very proud of you. God Bles and I hope to hear from you vry soon.
MAJ US Army
- October 23, 2008 at 10:18 PM
I don't think my comment made it so I will send it again. If you need help with ARMY finance issues, I can get info, make phone calls, pull strings or rattle cages for you. 931-436-5663 is my work cell phone. Somewhere in the ARMY, Kevin is assigned to a Warrior Transition Battalion. WTB's have entire staffs of finance clerks to work on pay issues. I would be happy to help if I can. We hope Kevin gets to feeling better. Your family is always in our prayers.
Steve Kammerdiener
Command Sergeant Major (retired)
Please feel free to throw around my name and rank as you see fit. The best it can do is open some medium sized doors and make younger Army Officers quake in their shoes. The worst it will do is draw some laughter.
- October 24, 2008 at 10:40 AM


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Kokkola is a city situated in Ostrobothnia, with a population of approximately 36000. It is the largest city on the coast, between Oulu and Vaasa. It was founded in 1620 and during the 18th century it had one of the largest merchant fleets in Finland, and was a major producer of tar and ships. Presently Kokkola is a fairly peaceful city.
Get in
Get around
Kokkola is a fairly small city so the easiest way to see the sights is walking.
The Natural History Collection Kieppi holds a large collection of minerals and stuffed animals.
The K.H.Renlund Art Museum - A valuable collection of finnish art from the late 19th century.
The Camera Collection - Leo Torppa's collection of historic cameras and photography accessories
Museum of History - Situated in an old school-house that is one of Finland's oldest non- religious structures, it holds many items related to the seafaring history of Kokkola, including many model ships.
Vanha kaupunki - The old quarter of Kokkola. One of the largest and most well preserved wooden house districts in Finland.
Tankar Island - A beautiful rocky island with it's own lighthouse, an old church and a seal-hunting museum. Regular trips made by the ferry MS Jenny.
Kaarlelan kirkko - A medieval stone church from the 15th century.
Kaarlelan kotiseutumuseo - A museum that shows visitors the culture of Ostrobothnia before industrialisation.
The firemuseum - A museum run by the volunteer firemen of Kaarlela to their fire station. In the museum there are various objects from 1800s to 1990s. The museum is open regularily in summertime, otherwise you must contact the honorary fire chief or the fire chief of Kaarlela volunteer fire department.
Kokkolan kaupunginteatteri - The city theatre
Freetime activity center - Possibilities for such activities as swimming, bowling, hockey and ice-skating, wall-climbing and many others.
Kokkola Cup - The second largest annual football tournament held for children under 18 is held in Kokkola every July.
Kahakka - An annual victory celebration that has expanded to a city festival. It is held to celebrate the towns victory over a skirmish with the British during the Crimean war.
Venetsialaiset - An annual happening to celebrate the ending of cabin season, the last day to spend time in your summer cottages, that's held on the last weekend of August. It's a celebration of fire, light and water. Fireworks fill the night sky. People decorate their yards with fires and lights.
Kokkola has many larger stores and smaller shops.
Fast-food and pizzerias There are at least three fast-food franchises, over ten pizzerias and many small food stalls
Restaurants Many good rastaurants for everybody. Basic restaurants, chinese and some serve slightly mexican food.
Cafees Many small and cousy cafees.
Best Western, Hotel Kokkola
Finlandia Hotels, Hotel Seurahuone Hotelli Nukkumatti
Sokos Hotel Kaarle
B&B Lumitähti
Lomakylä Trullevi
Suntinsuu camping
Get out
How did you get in?
External links
http://www.kokkola.fi/museo/english/index.html - Homepage of Kokkola's museums
http://www.kokkola.fi - homepage of Kokkola
http://www.matkailu.kokkola.fi - tourism and travelling page


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All these Nettops and Netbooks are cheap devices that can be connected to a central server and run essential applications off the the server
Linux or Windows devices are already able to run Windows apps through ThinServer
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