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|17th December 2006, 02:55 AM
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new vs. old slalom shapes
Do you mind summerising the main differences and advantages/disadvantages of the traditional narrow /long boards as compared to the new short/wide slalom shapes.
And which iS size would you recommend for a 94kg rider sailing in 15-25 knots choppy bay conditions?
|20th December 2006, 12:09 PM
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RE: new vs. old slalom shapes
Hi Slalomguy,
It's a bit unclear how far back we want to define "traditional" (which in turn can vary the scope of the answer), but if we define "traditional" to be the slalom boards of the last few seasons (ie : the current "life" of slalom, as compared to the previous "life" of slalom pre extinction) ...
The real difference and advantage would be the increase in rideability and range, which in most conditions makes the new boards faster, or easier to be fast on. The iSonics really have quite a flat trim/ride, which is something that was not so easily achieved on traditional boards. Especially with the current range of iSonics (with even more improved jibe) there really is not any significant performance downside to the new boards.
Upwind ability, ability to efficently carry bigger sails and fins (where required) early planing, planing thru lulls and carrying power thru jibes all rate better on iS than more traditional shapes.
The traditional narrow boards feel possibly sharper or faster in the water and in some cases give a enhanced speed "sensation" however head to head and gps testing shows the calmer new generation boards are deceptively fast.
It's also worth noting that a poorly designed short/wide slalom could easily be a real ugly board to ride/jibe, however with iSonics the results have been very positive, both to our testing and (maybe more importantly) the general public.
There are very few who have spent time (or money) on the iSonics who don't find them a better overall slalom solution than the longer, narrower traditional designs.
For a 94kg rider in 15-25kts Bay chop, the 3 sizes in typical consideration would be iS94/101/111:
94 would be a good top end board, more demanding and potentially critical around the 15 kts range, especially if the 15kts was marginal. For a serious focus on overall range, the 101 is a really good choice (and my favorite), and it's early planing (with moderate skill and decent tuning) is not far behind the larger 111 and even 122. 101 has a really good jibe and good speed in both light and powered conditions. A bit bouncier over chop in high winds, less of an issue with bigger riders.
iS111 is a safer bet for heavier riders in lower (~15)and mid range(15-20), but with more compromise on the real top end 20+, especially if it gets really lumpy or choppy.(although, by comparison, you will find the iS111 still a better choice in these conditions than most "traditional" longer, narrow designs.
OK, make that 4 options; The iS122 is an absolute wildcard in that windrange, but for a heavy rider remains also a possibility with excellent low end and mid range(10-20kts), more challenging (but still very capable) in serious chop above 20 kts. But an unreal jibe for such a "big" slalom. Doubt it ? Me too. Try it.
Deciding which end of the 15-25 kt range you will spend most of your sailing time in (on this board) - or alternately the sail size range/swetspot you desire)will influence the optimal choice.
Most people initially fear the wider, flatter shape in chop, but a few sessions quickly convert them, and in the clear majority of cases, there is no "going back" after that. If you've any doubts, please try for a demo or test. Or more info.
Cheers ~ Ian
|20th December 2006, 06:15 PM
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RE: new vs. old slalom shapes
Thanks for the reply Ian.
|23rd December 2006, 06:29 AM
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RE: new vs. old slalom shapes
Good response that also lays to rest the periodic rumours that short and wide is on the way out.
And all the best for 2007 to the *Board team and all those who make this forum such an informative place to be.
|24th December 2006, 03:30 PM
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RE: new vs. old slalom shapes
I'm not Ian but this is what I can share: I started sailing slalom boards towards the late 90s when shapes were still comparatively long and narrow. Today I'm on a modern short and wide board and for me the most noticeable difference is how much more free of the water the new shapes ride, particularly in chop. The older shapes could ride free as well but it seemed to me only in flat water. THe new shapes have much shorter rocker flat which is I think why they feel this way. I figure the shorter rocker is compensated by the wider tail shapes so early planing is not so affected. And for sure the range of the new boards is outstanding. I use one board in up to 30+ winds on a 5.5 and the same board in winds less than half the strength on a bigger sail, with a fin change of course, although a change up to a larger board would probably be ideal. I find the newer shapes easier to gybe as well. It feels it's because there is less board in the water so there is less board to deal with in the turn.
|25th December 2006, 01:16 AM
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RE: new vs. old slalom shapes
Hi SIN909,
Just curious about the size (length, width & volume) of your newer board. I have a brand new slalom board that I haven't tried yet, and its almost 23cm shorter, a centimeter wider at the middle and it has a noticably wider nose and tail. My older slalom (from very late 99) is still an awesome board that proved itself repeatedly over the years, even in some pretty wild conditions. If the new one is superior in ways that you noted, I'm going to be very stoked. I've sailed Northshore Maui many times before, so I'm aware how challenging the conditions can be when the trades really kick in, especially outside the reef line.
Was the newer board the one you used in the speed and slalom racing during the 2006 season? If I recollect correctly, your standings in the competitions were right up there.
|25th December 2006, 02:00 AM
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RE: new vs. old slalom shapes
My board is 8'0" and 22 inches wide Mike's Lab and what I used this season. Took delivery sometime in May so it's a fairly late shape. Thr rocker flat is 30 inches. Not sure about the volume but estimate it to be about 85 litres. Also what I really notice is how the board seems to skim over the top of the chop and so if you get in a groove is actually not so bouncy in bad chop. Probably modern slalom boards like the isonics work along these lines. For sure the board played a big part in the results among others factors. On another note there were some questions on this forum about whether to go with a new board or sail if you could only choose one. Well in my experience, unequivocally I would say go with the new board. I stayed on my Nitro4 sails and was still competitive. Boards get delamed and lose their performance whereas sails stay essentially the same. As well I feel there are greater advancements in board design over sail design, particularly the last few years. I think wide and short slalom boards with shorter rockers makes more of an impact performance-wise than wide luff sleeves.
|26th December 2006, 01:11 AM
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Hi SIN909,
Thanks so much for your response. It's very interesting to note that my new slalom board is also a Mike's Lab, and it's virtually the same size as yours. Given your satisfaction with your board, I know I'm going to be super stoked. The older slalom I mentioned is also a Mike's Lab. I took the opportunity to visually compare the two boards, and the thing that really caught my attention is that the V really extends forward on the board, and is quite pronounced in the nose section, thereby creating fairly deep concaves. Very different from the many ML boards I've owned in the past where the V was quite subtle and pretty much limited to the tail sections . I can hardly wait until I get the new board on the water.
Please indulge me with one last question. What fins have you been using, and what sizes where they? I have always favored Tectonics Goldwings, but I'm tempted to try an F-1 Falcon in the 30-32cm range.
|26th December 2006, 09:02 AM
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RE: new vs. old slalom shapes
Talking about fins,do the short wide boards need larger fins?
A few people I have spoken to seem to think so.
|27th December 2006, 12:01 AM
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Just can't resist jumping in.
I have been sailing slalom boards since 1990. Turned to short/wide just last season (Sonic 95).
I must note that rocker flat has evolved among narrow boards too. My '90 slalom board had a 50" flat; my '97 RRD 281 had a 30" one and '99 RRD 278 went "back" to 35", not that much for a 21 1/4" wide board with a 12 3/4" tail.
By sure new style boards with wide tails provide plenty of power and leverage over the fin, so that one can use a big fin for early planing and upwind and still use it at full speed; but efficiency is limited by tail and fin dimensions. Narrower boards just get into their own as the speed increases: the faster one goes, the more lift he gets from the narrow tail and the small fin. One must remember that lift is direct function of surface (so of tail width), but varies with speed square: at every small increase in speed, power is increased more than proportionally, so that one can use it to gain even more speed, and so on; and small fin and tail dimensions take quite a while before being felt as a limit to speed. The final effect is a feel of "unlimited" speed capability; a bit like that of a sporty engine as compared to a Diesel one. An Otto cycle motor increases efficiency as throttle is full open and revs go up, resulting in a feel of the engine wanting to run high; while a Diesel engine has similar efficiency at any gas position and speed. Just like narrow boards prefer high regimes, while wide ones are OK at any, but with a "dull" feel.
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Ginger Frembling considers herself a lifelong member of 4-H.
The Tennessee native is adding Davidson County's 4-H program to the list of youth organizations with which she has worked. Frembling's first day on the job as agent for Davidson County 4-H was on April 1.
"I was a 4-H member in Tennessee," the 38-year-old said. "I grew up in 4-H. My whole family was actually in 4-H, so it's a program that I fully believe in. It just became full circle in being a 4-H agent."
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"I basically have two brains I feel like," she said. "One is 4-H and cooperative extension, but the other is working in the nonprofit sector, mostly museums."
Frembling last served as a 4-H agent in Chowan County from 2005-09. She replaces Julie Jones as the agent in Davidson County. Frembling recently moved to the Piedmont from Texas after her husband, Capt. Jeffrey Frembling, took a job as a recruiting supervisor for the U.S. Army in Winston-Salem.
Since taking over as agent in Davidson County, Frembling has been studying the county's 4-H program. She said she'd like to concentrate on building the existing program.
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For the sixth time in seven years, Joey Chestnut won the World Rib-Eating Championship at the Best in the West Nugget Rib Cook-Off in Sparks.
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VOORHEES, N.J.— Despite his team's dramatic move in the standings since their rapid early fall, general manager Paul Holmgren acted quickly to try to shore up a most obvious team shortcoming — the Flyers' lack of calm in their defensive zone.
In Andrew MacDonald, the Flyers might have a defenseman who not only knows how to rifle a puck out of trouble, but actually skate it out of his defensive zone on occasion without incurring a rink-wide panic.
The Flyers Tuesday traded a third-round pick in the June draft, a second-round pick in 2015 and lightly regarded minor-leaguer Matt Mangene for MacDonald, who at 27 is a mobile defenseman still developing his game. He was paired with Mark Streit for the better part of three seasons on Long Island, and perhaps Holmgren saw this as a potential case of familiarity breeding competence.
"He's a good, all-around defenseman," Streit said via a conference call Tuesday night. "He plays really well defensively and blocks a lot of shots and has a really good first pass, and obviously he's got some offense as well.
"It's a really good mix."
MacDonald also has an expiring contract. A pending restricted free agent, he only brings a $575,000 cap hit and should help give the defense a bit of a literal push up the ice. Expect Holmgren, who declined comment on the deal, to try to give MacDonald a push with a nice contract extension sooner rather than later.
According to a report in Newsday, MacDonald may be seeking as much as $5 million per season on his next contract. The Isles weren't going to do that.
"Everyone was really looking forward to this season after the way we finished last year. But things didn't go the way we wanted and this seems to be a byproduct of that," MacDonald told Newsday before he left his team in Winnipeg Tuesday afternoon. "It's kind of mixed emotions right now. I'm sad to leave but excited for what's coming next."
Holmgren offered only a one-line text take, stating MacDonald, "is a solid two-way defenseman who brings us depth and experience."
MacDonald has four goals and 20 assists in 63 games for the Islanders this season, and was a somewhat worrisome minus-19. That was seen as more of a product of an Islanders team that was struggling from the net on out this season. On the plus side, he leads the NHL in blocked shots with 198. His closest competitor in that category, Montreal's Josh Gorges, has 171.
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"He's still a young player, and it's the first time for him to be traded," Streit said, " ... but he's really excited to be a Flyer."
Surely not as thrilled are a couple of other Flyers defenders who were battling for ice time before this move, Andrej Meszaros and Erik Gustafsson. Lately it's been Meszaros who had been getting the bulk of ice time out of those two frequently alternating defenders. But at 28, Meszaros is three years older than Gustafsson, comes at a much heftier $4 million cap hit ... and Meszaros is a pending unrestricted free agent, too.
You'd think he already had plenty of reason to ponder the looming trade deadline of Wednesday at 3 p.m. Now a Mez move seems inevitable.
"I don't care about tomorrow," Meszaros said after an early Tuesday practice at the Skate Zone. "Whatever happens, happens; it's out of your hands and it's a business thing. But it's going to be interesting."
Asked if he thought he had a reason to be nervous about the deadline, Meszaros added, "Not for me. When I was younger, I kind of got nervous (on deadline day) because I didn't want to leave. But now, once you get older, you understand the business and how it works. You're not thinking about it and you go day by day and see what happens."
It's a fair expectation that by mid-afternoon, Meszaros would likely be looking at travel plans. Holmgren is believed to have shopped him for quite some time to little interest, though in recent days there have been reports Boston was giving Meszaros a close look as a replacement for the injured Dennis Seidenberg.
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With MacDonald joining a club that alternates two defenders and daily practice presence Hal Gill, however, the Flyers have nine defensemen on their roster. That's essentially two too many.
Of course, there have been seasons in which defensive injuries have left them depleted beyond repair. Yet the level of chaos in their defensive zone makes you think that while the MacDonald addition helps, it's certainly no cure.
"I thought we have a pretty good D corps that's been playing pretty well," Streit said. "A guy like him, there's not a lot of guys out there with his skill set. ... He's overall pretty good, and he can kill penalties and play on the power play and he's a great puck mover, and great skater. It's a good combination.
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Indie flick "The FP" opens Friday, March 16 at the Denver FilmCenter/Colfax, 2510 E. Colfax Ave., taking on a fictional battle inspired by the ever-popular Dance Dance Revolution.
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STOCKTON — Led by Kara Wright at the net and Kelsey Wright in the midcourt, Stockton rolled over Galena and into the Class 1A Pearl City Sectional next Tuesday with a straight-set victory Thursday night.
Stockton, which won 25-19, 25-13, got 10 kills and 14 blocks from Kara Wright and 15 assists to go along with an assist from Kelsey. Maddy Dower added nine kills and 11 blocks and Kristen Kippendorf chipped in with five digs as the Indians claimed the Stockton Regional championship. Galena was led by Abby Wills (15 assists) and Olivia Middendorf (14 digs and seven kills.)
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|2004-04-07, 19:29
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GreenTze: i want to see that sig!
PriestessKikyo: the quality isn't that great, but that pic is nice 8.8/10
Souma Kyou: 8.5/10 i just don't like real people in sigs, even her!
|2004-04-07, 21:36
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mantidor - definitely up to Angel Sanctuary standards! Very atsy.. 9.7/10 (and I'm sorry I failed link ;_; )
Lst2touchdasky- Redness is a great word!! It had to be coined by someone, and I'm glad that someone was you! 9/10!
|2004-04-07, 22:26
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Lst2touchdasky- Paine's chest? Interesting 8/10
Tzurial- Not too sure what it is and what they're doing. I give it a 7/10. I don't like the drawing style.
mantidor- What is that angel doing to her?!?!? 7.5/10
EDIT: Drat, the mods took away my sig!
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lol! yes its an angel, sort of, is LUCIFER from angel sanctuary look the original pics
yes, i cut, paste, edit, re-cut, re-paste, re-edit etc. etc. etc.
now it may seem that lucifer is forcing her. I haven't the complete manga but if is rociel is completly the other way around! rociel is one of the most perverted characters i've seen, and yes she is an angel! a heaven's angel!. Now if its alexiel (they are twins so you can't tell from just one page of the manga who this char is) probably lucifer isn't forcing her either, someone has the complete manga??? tell me how is it ??? actually DON'T TELL ME, some day i'll have the manga, even if i have to sell one of my kidneys to get it.
Lst2touchdasky: great one! at first i didn't see any red so it was 7/10 now that i've noticed the red word is 8.8/10!
BTW i took those pics from a french site of angel sanctuary, so thanks to that site!
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Slade - 8/10 FMA sig ^^
Taboo - 7/10 better then the last one you had
Dragonfly - 6/10 it's empty
GATX207_Blitz - 7/10 what is that?
Fallen - 9/10 like the colors, i think its from FMA ore?
Souma Kyou - 9/10 NICE!!
i don't think its a paper hat.. dont now were its from..
i have made a new one...
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Tekno- I don't like the centering job for some reason. It's alright though. 8/10
XelloS- Kenshin is always a good choice for a sig. 9/10
Lexander- Should I know where that's from? I give it a 8/10 for being original and minus -1 because you can't handle the use of "EBIL". Come on... just try it, you'll feel good.
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I been meaning to rate your sig. Normally I'd say 10/10, because Hughes was my favorite character ...but seeing ebil in all caps + bold ... I decided you deserve an 8/10.
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Maikeru- I like it. The blur effect gives it a sense of disarray and it's got a good sense of style. 8.5/10
Black Jaggan- Animated gif fan? It's alright. Nothing much I can say about them. 7.5/10
Lst2touchdasky- RagnaCrack signature! I used to play that game ALOT back in the day, but it just got boring. I think it's missing your usual redness/soda flavor 8/10
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E News: Adam Levine apologizes to Adam Lambert
Filed Under (news,video ) by Admin on Wednesday, June 22, 2011
Posted at : Wednesday, June 22, 2011
89 comments:
Ive watched this about 6 times now and cant get the big smile to leave my face..Is that wrong for me to feel that way?? As long as nothing impacts our Adam in a neg way than its all good.
- June 22, 2011 at 7:44 PM
Yup, more great publicity for Adam!
- June 22, 2011 at 7:45 PM
I totally agree!!! And Levine is soooo right, WE HAVE GOT AMLs BACK ... NOW AND FOREVER!!!!
- June 22, 2011 at 7:47 PM
As much as I appreciate Levine apologizing, I will still watch the Voice and give him "stink eye" when he's on camera.
- June 22, 2011 at 7:48 PM
K, I'm good.
And I like that he understands Adam's fans (us).
- June 22, 2011 at 7:49 PM
Cool! I get to be 1st! Didn't comment on the prior thread cuz I missed all this yesterday and STILL haven't watched my DVR. All I have to say is...I guess you don't mess with AL, intentionally or not. Almost feel bad for levine.
- June 22, 2011 at 7:54 PM
This is really satisfying.
- June 22, 2011 at 7:54 PM
Well, poop! Others got there before I finished!
- June 22, 2011 at 7:55 PM
Revenge is sweet!
- June 22, 2011 at 7:55 PM
I have a feeling that both Adams REALLY know how to play the media game!!
- June 22, 2011 at 7:56 PM
I must say this Levine got on the news by dissing our Adam. Maybe more artist will say dumb things about our Adam if it means they get more air time. After all good or bad news keeps your name out in the public. I think we Glams just did this guy a big favor. JMO
- June 22, 2011 at 7:58 PM
He got to the news because Glamberts got furious at him. Way to go Glamberts..
- June 22, 2011 at 8:02 PM
ryan sycrest faae is one of the best parts about this video
- June 22, 2011 at 8:03 PM
Adam Levine now knows what loyal fans Adam Lambert has. This publicity kind of worked out well. WWFM went up on itunes, it trended that night. On one list, can't remember which one, Adam's second album made #1 for most anticipated. Now wish he would go in the voice and sing his face off in front of Levine, but probably won't happen.
- June 22, 2011 at 8:08 PM
@anon8:03 I know right? I totally see him smirking when he is announcing the news about Levine lol..Im still smiling
- June 22, 2011 at 8:08 PM
Great that Levine realized his dissing about Adam Lambert last night. Yes, Glamberts love Adam Lambert and will support him forever. Although, who hasn't heard WWFM. A song that got Grammy Nomination nod.
OT, you guys can vote for Sasha on SYTYCD online website. Just go to the following link and vote for her:
- June 22, 2011 at 8:32 PM
He said he was sorry now let's move on. Even our Adam would want us to do that...forgive and move on. Gee the guy said a dumb thing and really we let him know how we feel about our Adam and boy he probably thought Wow does he have some loyal fans. I told him (Adam Lavine) I was disappointed that he said these things and his fans would do the same thing if Adam (our Adam) said things about you. He never would.. he an angel from God. Just saying!
- June 22, 2011 at 8:33 PM
Wasn't Adam Levine a judge for the Grammys? If he was he did not do his job if he did not know who Adam Lambert is. I guess he knows now.
- June 22, 2011 at 8:35 PM
free publicity is always a good thing.
- June 22, 2011 at 8:41 PM
Levine loves our dedication. Wished he had a fanbase like us, LOL. What are his fans called? Moron5?
- June 22, 2011 at 8:42 PM
Hey Levine, our dedication and your BS diss gave you and your stupid show a free publicity. I don't even watch this show. I don't like any of the contestants. AI got younger much better contestants.
- June 22, 2011 at 8:45 PM
Well, well, well, very satisfying indeed to see Mr. Levine eat some humble pie! He found out what power Mr. Adam Lambert has with the support of his fandom. It's no joke, Mr. Levine. We support our Adam and we won't go down without a fight. Sorry you had to learn the hard way. I suppose Mr. Levine has learned a lesson in "thinking before you speak".
What gorgeous pictures of our Adam in this clip. Wow, he is so amazingly beautiful. Plus he is the Voice!
I feel much better now.
- June 22, 2011 at 9:08 PM
Sorry, OT! I'm in tears just watching Sasha's performance on SYTYCD.
Watch it here:
Please vote here:
- June 22, 2011 at 9:13 PM
Adam's fans are protective and anyone that messes with him will learn. Certainly a boost for Adam. Class act as usual. So proud of him. Sophomore effort will show everyone what this man is capable of. FYE was very good but this one, thru the roof!
- June 22, 2011 at 9:47 PM
I loved the pictures they used of adam in this. So glad it wasn't that infamous AMA picture. Well I feel much better now, except alot of comments on other blogs are sayin we are crazy. So be it, I'll stay crazy. lol
- June 22, 2011 at 9:47 PM
This was just Adam Levine wishing he had fans like us...poor guy. When I first heard about this I thought Levine was joking. Did he actually say he had NEVER heard that song before? He needs to see that Canadian clip of the entire audience, young and old singing with Adam the night he gets an award there...or Pink saying in concert that she wrote a song and found somebody who could do a better job singing it. I thought he was in the music business. Maroon 6 or something...lol.
Well, now he knows.
- June 22, 2011 at 9:51 PM
I used to think Ryan Seacrest wasn`t that great, but compared to the host on the Voice, he`s actually pretty good!
- June 22, 2011 at 10:02 PM
Levine put the focus on how he was raked over the coals by Adam`s fans instead of actually apologizing for what he said or admitting he is out of touch, of course, who would admit that I guess.. At least he tried to put a somewhat positive spin on it, but he is still just SO full of himself imo.
- June 22, 2011 at 10:32 PM
Haha, yes, we also used to call someone a `maroon` as an insult. And if it was particularly bad, we called them an `ultra maroon` lol
- June 22, 2011 at 10:36 PM
Well, an apology on national television! Good on ya.
- June 22, 2011 at 10:40 PM
I love the footage they show of AFL at about 0:57 where they are loads of cameras flashing..
Yes, take note, he is important!
- June 22, 2011 at 10:47 PM
I thought what Levine said was great, jeesh, some of you people are so hard and unforgiving, it only did good for our Adam.
Lets move on, Adam Lambert doesnt have a mean or nasty bone in his body, lets learn from him.
Peace and Love.
- June 22, 2011 at 11:08 PM
I appreciate Adam Levine apologizing. It probably was for damage control, as some irate fans might have taken it out on his team, which wouldn't have been fair to the contestants.What he said was disrespectful and stupid, but hopefully he learned a lesson in class and maturity from our Adam who always tempers reason with humour and is a perfect example of being a professional. Lots of positive publicity for our boy! Proud of how he keeps his cool. I was royally p*****! Feel better now, except hand is sore from voting for Sasha 50 times! funbunn40
- June 22, 2011 at 11:25 PM
I too appreciate his public apology. And Adam tweeted him saying:
@adamlambert Adam Lambert
@adamlevine saaaaall goooooo
1 hour ago
Adam Lambert: Apology accepted..Adam Levine: Lesson(s) learned..
Moving on! : ) Again, I am SOOO proud to be a fan of Adam Lambert..he is a gracious and classy man...
- June 22, 2011 at 11:42 PM
Well i believe Adam Mitchel Lambert gained so much from this hoopla having him on the news without even doing anything. Thanks to Nakia, Mr. Levine and all the devoted Glamberts for putting Adam in the limelight again. With this public apology, there is no need for Mr. Levine to wait for Adam's second album LOL. Someone better gift him with FYE and all the other cds of Adam for his entertainment ;D
This apology made me feel better than good.
Adam more blessings will come your way because of the pureness of your heart! Please never ever change because we are learning so much from you and you continue to bring out the best in people.
- June 23, 2011 at 12:11 AM
I was never able to be upset over this. It wasn´t Adam being ignorant making a fool of himself. It was mr Levine. If he was lying or just out of touch with today´s music doesn´t matter. He came out as a jerk either way no matter how many millions he´s sold. Adam is on top as always.
- June 23, 2011 at 1:21 AM
I'm in the minority here, but I honestly don't think that Adam Lavine intended to insult Adam in any way. He just wanted to complement Nakia's performance (which was great imo and deserved to be praised) without knowing who had originally performed the song. I don't think he deserved that bashing followed afterwards. Not everyone is against Adam. Not everyone is a bad and mean person and automatically against Adam if they aren't familiar with his music. Many musicians prefer not to listen so much other artists' music, so that they wouldn't be influenced too much unintentionally by them and can instead create something that is truly inspirited by their own thoughts and life experiences. Especially during their creative process, so that they could offer their fans something that isn't already out there... Many times feel that glamberts instantly see ugly in people just because they don't know Adam and his music so well than the fans. Not being familiar with somebody's work, doesn't mean that they hold some grudge against these artists and aim to disrespect them.
- June 23, 2011 at 1:32 AM
Mr Levine´s eybrows were not honest when he apologized, but never mind. Let´s move on Lionesses!!!! Adam was the King and stays as the King, as always!!!! RRRAUHHHH!! Summer, here we come!!!!
- June 23, 2011 at 1:49 AM
It was THE WAY he expressed himself. He was illogical. He bashed "the original singer", but said he never heard the song before. Very illogical, which confirm he lied. He wanted to snap our Adam.
You can be ignorant in a nicer way. Jokes can be nice or nasty.
BUT PLEAAAASEEE!!! Let´s move on @1:32 AM!!!!!
Or I need a whisky, no ice soon!!
- June 23, 2011 at 2:01 AM
@ Ronnie
@1.32am yes some people do not know Adam Lambert I get that but he did/does know Adam Lambert and certainly knew our boy had sang this song even if he had not listened to the song. Also he is in music business and should have known this. loads of contradictions!!
I personally think he is a crafty green eyed monster and would not trust him with a barge pole.
- June 23, 2011 at 2:24 AM
Dear Ronnie!
I understand that Levine's comment sounded insulting for many people and it left you wondering, why in earth he would even say that, if he wasn't familiar with the original version. Why say something like that out aloud? But I don't know… I've fallen in love with some songs and then heard later that they are actually cover versions, and I have also thought to myself if the original version can actually beat this amazing cover version that had such a strong impact on me at the very first time I heard it. So for me Levine's reaction didn't seem illogical or mean spirited. He saw an amazing performance from a song, he hadn't ever heard before. He thought Nakia nailed it and delivered it in a way that he self fell in love with that song instantly even without knowing it.
But yes, like I said before, I can understand that it sounded insulting. I myself don't think that it was meant like that, but instead it was just a reaction to Nakia's performance, which also in my opinion was really good and emotional. I didn't mean to start any fight over this. So I'm all good for moving on also. :)
- June 23, 2011 at 2:27 AM
Meanwhile, the voice guy's duet with xtina made it to number one on US itunes....From now on, why not focus on Adam Lambert's music! He is so worth it!
- June 23, 2011 at 3:06 AM
You, and everybody! Let´s move on ladies!!!
Having my hot cuppa coffee and waiting for the summer weekend with friends!!
- June 23, 2011 at 3:30 AM
All's well that ends well.
- June 23, 2011 at 3:50 AM
Apologize accepted indeed!!!! You've got what you deserved Mr. Lavine..............
I hope who ever would like to try bashing my Rock God has better medicine to cure theme he!he!
You can call Adam fans crazy I don't care!!!!
I love him to death and Adam Lambert is one of the best indeed!!!!!
- June 23, 2011 at 4:07 AM
Adam Levine wasn't bashing Adam. But Adam's fans were bashing him. There's nothing to be proud of when you are being so hateful for someone. Some fans should try to remember why they admire Adam so much. I don't think it was for attacking and insulting other people. This case was a major over reaction.
- June 23, 2011 at 4:24 AM
im totally good with this.
- June 23, 2011 at 4:37 AM
haaaaa adam lambert rocks! His got the voice naturally . laveine is just being imature. Anyway u 4 given. I lv u adam lambert an always will. :) .im proud 2 be a glambert . Nw lets move on an wait 4 adam lambert's new album .mwahhhhhhhhh
- June 23, 2011 at 4:56 AM
I bet Adam Levine would like to have a fanbase like us only if he knows how to manage it. Our Adam has been doing excellent with his fans and I think he admire us as the same level as we admire him. We are only showing our tremendous love to Adam and the media pick it up and that's all.
- June 23, 2011 at 5:24 AM
330 We're not all ladies here. Adam has male fans, too.
- June 23, 2011 at 5:47 AM
@Anon 1:32 AM and Anon 2:37 AM
I don't think Mr. Levine intended to be insulting either, but unfortunately for him, that is how it sounded initially. We all have moments of saying things we realize later came out wrong: we just don't say them on a TV program in front of millions. His comment was just not properly thought out, and I'm sure he meant it as a compliment to Nakia. Since it was announced who the original artist was (Adam Lambert), and then for him to unfortunately say what he did (that the cover version might have been better than the original, even though he said he had not heard Adam sing it, and that the song might have fallen flat) did sound inadvertently like a bit of an faux pas, intended or not, and was just ill-advised and a case of putting your foot in your mouth.Bad choice of words. Its usually a good idea to think before we speak. He was thinking out loud. It is more a hard and embarrassing lesson learned for him than anything else. I don't think he meant to insult anyone, but it was a case of think before you speak. The fans of any other artist would probably have been offended as well.
Adam Lambert is always gracious and a gentleman, and he was about this as well. He has put his foot in his mouth a time or two himself, and we still love him...We do need to forgive Adam Levine for his accidental dissing of Adam ( I do believe it was not intentionally done) and move on...Adam Lambert did get some positive publicity from all this, his song was heard on national TV...which is very very cool. Its all good as far as I'm concerned.
- June 23, 2011 at 5:54 AM
I know, here is one guy. Sorry.
Ladies are usually the most protective ones.
That´s what I actually ment.
Have seen a bunch of male here too on this site.
Sadly they are very few.
- June 23, 2011 at 5:58 AM
Uretha_Franklin 4:37 AM!
- June 23, 2011 at 6:03 AM
I don't think Levine meant as much by it as we make it out to be. He was doing "judge comment" schtick. They all do it. This just came out wrong. I don't think he has anything against our Adam. Just an unfortunate slip for Levine. C'mon, everyone. IT'S OVER NOW. Our over-the-top reactions don't help our Adam at and if fact can hurt him. Move on and make OUR Adam happy.
- June 23, 2011 at 6:32 AM
Adam Lambert fans had to defend Adam out of the gate. We have fought bigotry, lies, blackballing and exxagerations. The truth is that Adam Lambert is an exceptional singer. The song was announced as Adam Lambert's WWFM. Adam Levine is a smart man. He was told who sang it. Perhaps, like Anthony Weiner, Adam Levine's arrogance and what he thought he could get away with was too much. Blake Shelton's backhand to Adam Lambert was a little more disguised. It's a lesson...The Voice is filled with jealous, manipulative egos (with the exception of CeeLo). I hope his team wins. I'm done with The Voice. Say what you will but American Idol flows much better. I hope that J-Lo, Randy and Steven Tyler sign on for another year.
- June 23, 2011 at 6:55 AM
I agree that Levine probably just stuck his foot in his mouth with his comment on the Voice. However, I find I generally don't like him very much. The music of Maroon 5 is pretty good, but Levine strikes me as kind of a jerk. I am interested in other opinions, as it is possible I have misjudged him. I just don't find him very likeable from what I have seen. Thoughts?
- June 23, 2011 at 6:55 AM
Many of Adam Levine's comments to singers this season really paints a picture. He admits jealousy of more "manly" voices because he "sings like a girl".
He is amazed by people that can DANCE and sing while performing as he cannot. His performance of the Queen song was weak and he knows it.
When WWFM was announced they said it was an Adam Lambert song. So for Adam Levine to say he did not know who the singer was - huh?? It was just announced??
Now here is our BB Adam. He is the ultimate performer - a triple threat, looks, insanely talented singer and dancer! Now add charisma, integrity, honesty, modesty, intelligence and class.
In my heart of hearts I think Adam Levine is well aware of Adam Lambert's talents.
Only after being "racked over the coals" by the glamberts did he come to terms with needing to express an apology. Prior to that he had tweeted that he was NOT SORRY.
Adam Lambert is breaking down these "walls" of ignorance one brick at a time. Just by being his honest and impeccable self. SOOO very proud to be a fan for life!!
- June 23, 2011 at 9:45 AM
@4:24 I get highly suspicious these days when someone bashes Adam Lambert fans. I smell bigotry--toward Adam which spills out onto HIS particular fanbase. For Adam to have fans, there must be something wrong with the fans. I find it especially off-putting when warnings come from "on high" to tell Adam fans to STFU or THEY will ruin his career. Tell me exactly how Adam's fans are any different from other fan groups? (You realize ALL fan groups have "crazies" or you have never watched a sporting event.) First thing that pops up, I bet, are all the women over age 30 who comprise a chunk of his fanbase. And--you know how they are all just exactly alike! (NOT). Wow, more bigotry.
Many men--particularly heterosexual men who don't get Adam--spout their bigotry and/or DISMISS him quite freely. Afterall, they MUST be right, because (1) we all know they are more important than the rest of us and (2) nobody tells them any different. But sometimes women are the worst at turning on other women. What are you so afraid of--that we might upset the straight male power base that doesn't accept Adam in the 1st place? who won't put him on TV? or on the radio? That rigid power structure NEEDS upsetting.
I also believe Adam draws a lot of people (all ages, sexualities)who have at some point in their lives been made to feel "different" from others in a bad way. One of the beautiful things I love most about Adam is WE know how he has been made to feel & HE knows what it's like to feel different. This mutual empathy makes him our hero. We want him to succeed, because this beautiful, talented man has had to work twice as hard as mediocre artists to get where he is now. Cheril is so right. To not speak up lets people like Adam Levine, or Cee Lo, or Blake Shelton, or Tracy Morgan assume they can get by with being dismissive, bigoted, and mean. Bullies will bully till they get called out. We champion Adam, because he is our champion. When we are taking up for Adam, all those kids who feel different who follow him may be feeling, vicariously, that there is a whole group of people taking up for them, too--so they don't feel all alone in the world.
PS Adam has a very sophisticated way of calling out people who have slighted him. He can make lemonade out of lemons better than anyone I've ever seen. However, I believe it's very possible that Levine's bizarre behavior may have hurt Adam--felt like the slap in the face it was intended to be--after he had said such nice things about TheVoice. Yet again, making our Adam feel like he's on the outside looking in, or like the odd man out as Eber said, no matter how much he has accomplished or how hard he's tried. It may have hurt him, but Adam has learned to never let on about it. That's why I love it that people have his back. Those who do are showing empathy for Adam.
Kentucky Fan
- June 23, 2011 at 11:28 AM
What do they say about publicity--good or bad, it's all good. Is it really true that Adam's new album is no. 1 most anticipated. It certainly is with me!!!
- June 23, 2011 at 11:31 AM
- sixona said...
Kentucky fan - thank you.
- June 23, 2011 at 11:38 AM
Kentucky Fan - Kudos to you for putting my thoughts so eloquently.
Off Topic - If others say that Adam's fans are crazy, then I admit that I need to be locked in a rubber room in an asylum far, far away. lol
- June 23, 2011 at 11:58 AM
Anon 11:58, I hope you get the rubber room next to the one I'm staying in right now. We can talk Adam 24/7!! LOL!! Mwah!! K
- June 23, 2011 at 12:04 PM
@ KentuckyFan, EXACTLY!!!! Mwah!! K
- June 23, 2011 at 12:10 PM
@Kentucky Fan 11:28 AM! Thank you for your wise words! We don't rage without cause. Tried to stay out of this and start my weekend but here I am again. Adam's tweets tell me when he is hurt. I read thru the lines. He is cool and brave but there's a sad tone in them. I feel the pain everytime he's being hurt. He never stops however as a victim but goes on and turns everything to his victory.
- June 23, 2011 at 12:10 PM
Me,too. I pick up the sadness in Adam, too. Adam is my hero and role model for how to handle life.
P.S. I love your comment re: Adam Levine's dishonnest eyebrows :)
Kentucky Fan
- June 23, 2011 at 12:37 PM
Are the crazy fans more loyal than the less passionate fans? I think they are often more selfish, impatient and want attention. In the end they leave the responsibility of their actions to Adam. I can understand it, if they are young fans, but if they are 40-50 years old, not.
- June 23, 2011 at 12:37 PM
@ Kentucky Fan
You need to be with us forever! Thank you!
- June 23, 2011 at 12:43 PM
@Heart4Adam4Ever AND @Kentucky Fan ...
Thank you BOTH for your FANtastic posts ... once again I need not say anything ... you've BOTH said it ALL & so ELOQUENTLY & HEARTFELT ... as so many others here on this thread ... it is so true ... ADAM LAMBERT has the BEST fanbase BAR NONE ... Love 'n Light
- June 23, 2011 at 1:12 PM
Once some time ago Adam Lambert was asked about knowing all about artists and their songs, and he said it was his job to know this. Adam Levine has the same job and especially he has a job to know the songs, etc., of the contestants on the show that he is working on and getting paid millions. He has no excuse here (if it truly was inadvertant). "The Voice" management should have a serious discussion with one of their goof off employees !!!
- June 23, 2011 at 2:10 PM
Don't mess with the Glamily!! Fans rock
- June 23, 2011 at 2:44 PM
Kentucky Fan:
Adam HIMSELF tweeted, that he is fine and that he is not bothered about Levine and his comments. Why wouldn't you listen to him if he specifically informs his fans not to go after anyone? Why is there a need to treat him like he is this little child, who doesn't know when he is bullied and when not, and needs to be protected? If he himself needs to calm his fans because he thinks that they will go after some other artist for his silly comments, I will respect his wishes and back off and leave those other artists alone! You are over analyzing Adam and I think that's really patronizing... Adam is a grown up man and I as fan will respect his wishes to back off, if he himself doesn't feel the need to bash other artists. Everything he does, everything he writes and talks about, tells me, that he doesn't like people bashing other people in his name!
- June 23, 2011 at 2:45 PM
Glad Levine apologized because i want to vote for Javier Colon - and felt guilty doing it because he is on Levine's team. Now all is good. Glamberts rule.
- June 23, 2011 at 2:58 PM
You notice that E news did NOT say it was a mistake, they said flat-out, "Adam Levine dropped a big dis."
You KNOW Ryan Seacrest still loves him some Adam Lambert. :)
- June 23, 2011 at 3:13 PM
@ 12.37 Exactly! That is exactly, what I am reading from these comments. People are "sensing" Adam's sadness even though he tweets something wholly different. People are seeing bigotry everywhere, even though these persons themselves say, that they are not against Adam and Adam writes that he is not insulted. People say that Adam is their role model, but then they do the opposite what Adam self does. Everybody is just ignoring his wishes and make excuses for themselves to get angry about something that doesn't even bother Adam himself. I love the fact that Adam respects other artists and that's why I try to do the same.
- June 23, 2011 at 3:15 PM
Here is the catch-22. Adam had every right to be offended by the remarks Adam Levine made on national TV no less! Yet, Adam being a class act and gentleman chooses to rise above it and reponds with an intelligent answer - while still making his point by injecting humor.
That is why he ended his tweet telling Adam L. to watch out for him and his next album.
Now here is where the catch 22 comes in. IF we as our BB Adam fans had not called Adam L. OUT -about this then an APOLOGY would never have happened. I for one, am overjoyed that this drew attention from ENEWS and other media outlets.
WRONG is WRONG - plain and simple. Adam does not deserve this kind of treatment - he has worked far too hard. He is too kind of a person and he deserved this apology.
- June 23, 2011 at 3:24 PM
"Adam had every right to be offended by the remarks Adam Levine made on national TV no less!"
BUT he said he wasn't offended and decided to joke about it instead. So why are you getting so personally involved with it, when Adam chooses not to?
- June 23, 2011 at 3:34 PM
The point I am making is that Adam has a right. I acknowledged that he chose to joke about it. Yet, I still hold my ground as a fan that he deserved this apology. Again, IMHO.
- June 23, 2011 at 4:02 PM
I was not going to add this in my last remark - but then again, why not.
Maybe this ONE apology Adam received was not asked for by him or expected. He did not make a big deal out of Adam Levine's remarks because he has had to deal with so much adversity already in his lifetime and has learned to handle it with humor.
BUT maybe just maybe this ONE apology Adam did receive - will serve him well. Because, frankly he deserves to be respected.
- June 23, 2011 at 4:27 PM
Because Adam is always gracious and humble. Imagine the uproar among haters if he had complained in any way or said F**k you like Ceelo did to that reviewer. He is smarter than that. It was Mr Levine who embarresed himself not Adam´s fans. I´m also fed up with this "Adam´s fans are ruining his career". BS!
Without passionate fans no career. It´s the same for all artists. And there are crays in every fandom.
- June 23, 2011 at 4:42 PM
@ Eva
I am NOT saying that Adam's fans are ruining his career. That was an assumption from Kentucky Fan, not my opinion. There is nothing wrong to be a passionate fan. What I am saying is, that sometimes it would be nice if we fans would be actually capable to listen to Adam and respect his wishes what it comes to responding to other artist's comments. I found it very ironic that people say Adam is a role model to them, but if Adam wishes everybody to calm down, the fans do the opposite. And even if you choose not to calm down and you choose to make your opinion clear to the artist that has offended in your opinion Adam, you can do it in Adam's way; with humor and respect. Those tweets that Levine got from Adam's fans were not like the tweets Adam would self ever written.
- June 23, 2011 at 4:53 PM
Anons @2:45,3:15 and 4:45, thank you for your comments. I'm a big fan of Adam's, but I'm not his mother, nor can I read his mind and know his "sadness". Adam handled this situation brilliantly, without my "help".
I don't do twitter, so I don't know what was in the tweets to Levine from some fans. I just hope it wasn't anything that would embarrass Adam.
- June 23, 2011 at 6:18 PM
I don't care what other fans comment here. In my opinion, Adam is human and not an object okay??? He has feelings too and I know in my heart that it was disrespectful of Mr. Lavine to say those comments indeed. As we always see with Adam the class and grace with others. Everything about Adam affects the fans!!!! I can't blame the fans protecting their Rock God...
- June 23, 2011 at 6:46 PM
It is not the first time Adam been dissed by whoever in the media since day1. I don't get upset if they criticize his fashion or "lifestyle" because everyone has their own opinion. After this Mr Lavine`s comment, I felt very angry because someone dissed Adam`s singing ability so publicly. If I am on tweeter, I would sent him a HUGE finger.
- June 23, 2011 at 7:05 PM
That's right huge finger. LOL!!!!
- June 23, 2011 at 7:36 PM
@anon 6.18
you don't have to 'do' twitter to read what is being said. Just google twitter.com, put Adam lambert in the search box (or Adam Levine if you wanted to read the tweets to him) and press enter, you can then read all the tweets about Adam (or whoever).
All the tweets I read about this Adamgate were , seriously you haven't heard WWFM by Adam, well here's a link, or how can you say Nakia was better if you haven't heard the original kind of thing. And many were done tongue in cheek.
I'm fed up hearing of Adams crazy fans, and how we're runing his career etc, when most of the tweets were very normal and no different to what anyones fans would do in the same case. i.e. Kris Allens the other week when Adam Levine basically did the same thing to KA when someone covered Heartless on the voice. That didn't get blown up as much because the media didn't pick up on it, but the fans did.
- June 23, 2011 at 10:46 PM
The "fans ruining career" thing wasn´t aimed at you. I was agreeing with Kentucky fan.
I´m with you on that fans could handle this sort of thing with humor and what I´ve seen that was much the case. Some tweets were very funny and well thought of. I´m sure there were nasty ones too but crays are everywhere, and I´m sure if you examine Adam´s twitter feed you´ll see worse, written by fans of someone else.
About Heartless and Kris Allen. Kris opened for Maroon5 tour and Levine hadn´t heard that song, so what is that man doing judging on a talent show? Is he interested in music or other artists at all?
- June 24, 2011 at 1:15 AM
@ Eva
Well that's nice to hear if the majority of those tweets were not insulting. Maybe I then unfortunately managed to see only those tweets, which went over board and left a nasty taste in my mouth…
- June 24, 2011 at 2:06 AM
Hurray for Adam Lambert! I am satisfied with the apology on E. Of course Adam Lambert deserves many more apologies for prior insults, but I'll let those go and move on as our sweet Adam wants us to do. Adam Lambert landed on top because of his talent and class. I just love that man!!!!!
Peace and Light,
p.s..Sasha is a star!
- June 24, 2011 at 3:06 AM
The music biz is such a cut throat industry. Even moreso these days with the zillion social media outlets. Adam Lambert is doing a great job navigating it.
- June 24, 2011 at 11:19 AM


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Good Risk/Reward in Lamar Advertising
Steve Birenberg
I started a new long in Lamar Advertising (NASDAQ:LAMR) this morning. I expect IRS approval of the company's conversion to a REIT within the next few months. Based on REIT comparable valuations, I think the stock can trade up at least 20%. Beyond analyst commentary, I think the announcement from CBS of using a REIT for its Outdoor business is another vote of confidence for IRS approval.
Should the IRS block approval (billboards as REITs is very new and there are issues with digital billboards), the downside could be severe. LAMR was trading in the low $30s and on my list of stocks that I shorted prior to the initial REIT speculation. Since then, conditions in outdoor advertising have improved, which should limit the downside. The December quarter probably saw very modest positive growth, but that is an improvement over trends for the past few years. The CBS announcement also could create M&A speculation in the outdoor business as some investors feel CBS really would prefer to sell its US Outdoor business rather than convert it to a REIT. I think LAMR would hold in the mid-$30s, down 20%, if the IRS turns them down.
With a symmetrical risk-reward trade-off, but likelihood of approval high, I think LAMR is good event-driven long.
The Most Crowded Trade... Ever?
Marc Eckelberry
Right now, you would be hard pressed to find a single pundit that has not predicted the end of the bond bull. Just like last year, and the year before, they spring up whenever we get a January equity rally, forgetting the context stocks are rallying in, which is a secular bear market. It could very well be the most crowded trade ever in that space, while in fact technically nothing has changed. The yield on the ten year note tagged 2.06% this morning, right under the key 20.14%, 61.8% Fib retracements from 2002 (chart 1) and has promptly pulled back right under 2%.
While the DOW (INDEXDJX:.DJI) and SPX (INDEXSP:.INX) make new multi-year highs, the ten year yield can't even come close to last year's highs of 2.4%. ZN, ten year note futures (inverse to yields) hit a flush of almost 300k contracts on the hourly, which is usually an end of trend move if coming after a strong decline. It's the process of short covering and flipping long (chart 2). It also occurred right at weekly S1 and if that holds (130'310), we could see a solid bid this week in bonds.
As for equities, the DOW came right under a milestone level, 13930, which is the October 2007 close. Pay attention to that old index went we get to extremes.
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Tuesday, January 29, 2013
Fasten Your Seat-Belts: Turnaround Tuesday Turbulence?
Andrew Nyquist
It's the end of January and the "off-to-the-races" theme is in full effect again. Similar to last year, the S&P 500 (INDEXSP:.INX) has exploded higher and left in its wake of a stream of bears and assorted market chasers and followers. On the same hand, however, it is good to note that the S&P 500 has been running higher for almost a month now without a dip beyond 1 percent. And although I respect the mo-mo push higher, I have moved into the near-term cautious camp.
Looking at the daily chart of the S&P 500 (below), it's easy to see that the index is overbought and vertical of late. I'm not as concerned about the overbought status, as I am the vertical nature of the market. If the market doesn't begin to consolidate and pull in over the next few days, the index will run the risk of a more ominous blow-off and retracement. The S&P 500 may be targeting channel resistance around 1520 near-term on the upside, while lower support levels come into play around 1480, then the 1460-1470 consolidation area, and finally the 50 day moving average and uptrend line around 1435-1440 (and rising).
Another reason for caution is the DeMark weekly sell setup 9 that recorded on the Russell 2000 (INDEXRUSSELL:RUT) last week. This should mute the high beta brother and bring some consolidation (at a minimum) and more likely a pullback during the coming weeks (see chart below). But will this recharge the major indices for another run later on in Feb/March?
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Cloudy With a Chance of Moving Averages
Jeffrey Cooper
The clouds are doing a sympathy plunge with VMware (NYSE;VMW).
Citrix Systems (NASDAQ:CTXS) left a large gap below its 20 dma and tailed back up following an approach to its 50 dma.
Note the double tops just below the 200 dma just prior to this morning's gapola.
CTXS should find initial resistance on a backtest of its overhead 20 dma, possibly followed by a full test of its 50 in coming sessions.
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What the Zuck?
Todd Harrison
Minyanville was pretty bearish on Facebook (NASDAQ:FB) on the IPO. Conversely, I warmed up to the stock when it reached the 50% retracement of it's entire corporate life-cycle at $19. The stock has since rallied more than 70% (without me, mind you) and yesterday, when I mentioned that the upside would begin to get more difficult as the IPO price ($38) edged closer, I came thisclose to putting on a starter put position. I didn't.
I am now bidding on some Facebook puts for a trade with defined risk on the other side of the recent highs at $33. The thinking is, if Facebook continues lower, we're looking at a double top. If it reverses to the upside, I've got über-tight defined risk...and you can do anything as long as you're disciplined.
So you know and if you care--and remember to define your risk before you put your hard-earned capital at risk.
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Wednesday, January 30, 2013
Bonds! Get Ya Bonds!
Fil Zucchi
Even without the final numbers, January will record one of the - if not the highest - amount of new corporate issuance. . . ever. Against that backdrop, high yield spreads have DROPPED 37 bps in the same month, a 6% tightening, and at 591bps are at the lowest level 1997, as far back as the Merrill Lynch HY Index goes. The spreads on Credit Default Swaps of large US financials have also continued their shrinkage. I keep my own index and its disappearing act has taken it from 420bps to 330bps. If you want to explain the 6.1% monthly rise in the SPDR Financials (NYSEARCA:XLF), you probably need not look any further.
In the sovereign realm, spreads on US CDS attempted to perk up during the first 3 weeks of the month (up about 10bps), only to be unceremoniously dumped on its tail in the past week (down 5bps). The same can be said for Italy's and Spain's CDS spreads, despite the mounting economic problems we hear about on a daily basis. Lastly, the 2yr swap spread has risen 2bps this month, after dropping to 10bps from 40bps in the last 6 months of 2012.
Bottom line? The credit world remains a firehose of money for anyone who asks for it, and with companies doing most of the asking and flipping that cash into dividends and buybacks, going short for more than a trade seems like a colossal waste of time, money and energy.
Speaking of "trades" however, the 3-day RSI on the S&P 500 (INDEXSP:.INX) touched 99.35 (out of 100) on Jan 25. I could not find a higher reading ever, but note that after recording similarly overbought readings in the past (95 +) the history of pullbacks immediately thereafter has been uneven. Momentum can be a very powerful force.
Why is Amazon Up on a Lousy Quarter?
Michael Comeau
Here's the thing.
It's very easy to imagine Amazon (NASDAQ:AMZN) at $1 trillion in revenues because it has a relatively predictable business with an obvious secular growth story.
More and more people are shopping online, and Amazon's obviously best-in-breed in ecommerce. It's a growth story that can logically go on for decades.
Meanwhile, look at the tumultuous history of the tech landscape.
In the 1990s, Dell (NASDAQ:DELL) was absolutely killing it in terms of growth, Microsoft was the biggest bully on the block, and Apple (NASDAQ:AAPL) was on the verge of going out of business.
Now, the PC industry's been turned upside down because of the iPad, and Microsoft is actually an underdog to Apple -- a company it actually rescued in 1997!
What else?
There was a time when companies like Polaroid, Kodak, and Xerox (NYSE:XRX) were world-class innovators with seemingly unlimited growth potential.
Or how about IBM (NYSE:IBM)? It went from being a dominant superpower in the 1980's to a bloated mess in the early 1990's, before being ressurrected in one of the greatest corporate turnarounds of all-time -- quite a rollercoaster for what is now considered a 'steady as she goes' type of profit machine.
And then there's Research In Motion (NASDAQ:RIMM). Six months ago, the Blackberry-maker was left for dead on the side of the road. Today, people are pumped for BlackBerry 10's release -- a turn of events that was inconceivable in mid-2012. And the stock's up 166% off the lows.
We are in a bear market in certainty, which largely explains Apple's depressed valuation in the face of huge revenue growth and mobile-device dominance.
And what does Amazon bring? A dead-simple business model intensely focused on growing revenues into the stratosphere that can easily be extrapolated decades into the future. It's just plain easy to imagine an Amazon that in 2030 is ten or twenty times the size it is today.
Thursday, January 31, 2013
Soup Nazis to the Left, Soup Nazis to the Right
Jeffrey Cooper
In this morning's Daily Market Report, walked through the Soup Nazi (+1) sell set up in Facebook (NASDAQ:FB) ahead of earnings.
Wednesday's retrace was shortable because Tuesday FB left a Soup Nazi (+1) sell signal. Why? Monday FB Pinocchioed the prior little swing high and stabbed back below that prior high on Tuesday.
Why didn't I use it? I don't like to assume the risk of earnings. Some of you do. In the future I will look at these setups, such as Amazon (NASDAQ:AMZN), and may suggest an options play."
Energizer (NYSE:ENR) was another Soup Nazi in front of this morning's report.
I played neither.
1) I don't like to assume the risk in front of earnings as to FB
2) I didn't see the ENR setup nor did I know they were due to report.
I will be utilizing options to play these kind of earnings setups/Soup Nazis going forward.
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Remember When...
Michael Sedacca
At the end of 2004, Microsoft (NASDAQ:MSFT) issued a special dividend of $3/share. That equated to a $32 billion special dividend. That month, personal income jumped to a 3.2% monthly rate because of the huge influx of dividend money, which equated to a $301.7b annualized jump. Much of the same story this past December. So the big question is, what does it mean, if anything?
Consumer confidence as measured by the Bloomberg consumer comfort index and its subindexes fell sharply into 2005, but I would be hard pressed to attribute this directly to the dividend income. Personal spending also dropped from 0.7% in December 04 to 0.2% January 05, and dropped further into the 2Q. Still the same argument, but this dragged down the major indices to an April low, before making new highs by the end of the year.
Now, consumer confidence is also dropping from a double whammy effect. The 2% payroll tax increase and the loss of their Christmas present from the private sector. Does that mean that every person went out and spent the extra money they got? My guess is no, the majority of this money was saved, after looking at the data. Personal spending only rose 0.2% compared to a roughly 2.3% jump in disposable income from special dividends. It makes the personal spending data next month very important as it will begin to factor in a 2% cut in disposable income from taxes, and it will represent also represent whether or not this money was spent or found its way into stocks/bonds/funds.
I still think the bigger question is whether or not this is a long-term drag on companies as in a number of situations they have had to raise debt to pay for these special dividends.
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Friday, February 1, 2013
Jeff Saut
Everyone knows how to win; but, few know how to lose. Yet the secret to making money in the market is knowing how to lose or how to control your losses. Listen to the pros: "I'm always thinking about losing money. Don't focus on making money; focus on protecting what you have" - Paul Tudor Jones. Or, "The majority of unskilled investors stubbornly hold onto their losses when the losses are small and reasonable. They could get out cheaply, but being emotionally involved and human, they keep waiting and hoping until their loss gets much bigger and costs them dearly" - William O'Neil. Then there is, "One investor's two rules of investing: 1) Never Lose Money; 2) Never forget rule No. 1" - Warren Buffett. All of those pros have different market philosophies. They have contradictory strategies for making money. But their message is clear - Learning how not to lose money is more important than learning how to make money! And in learning how not to lose money, you have to evaluate risk.
Clearly, I have been doing that recently by perusing my indicators in an attempt to evaluate risk. The conclusion has been that the S&P 500 (INDEXSP:.INX) was likely going to develop fifteenaphobia. And sure enough, the SPX has been bumping its "head" against 1500 for the past six sessions (see chart). Yesterday, the "head bashing" left that index back below 1500 and resting near its 10-DMA (1496.02). Failing that moving average could lead to a pullback towards the often mentioned support zone (1465 - 1475). Yesterday's action followed Wednesday's one-day downside reversal whereby the SPX made a new rally high and then closed below the previous day's closing price. However, those two events may only stall the market, so I still would not look for any big pullback and would continue to use weakness to buy fundamentally strong stocks. Of course, the final arbiter of short-term direction will be this morning's employment figures where non-farm payrolls are expected to be +165 with an unemployment rate of 7.8%. Yet whatever the number, I think the 1465 - 1475 support level holds.
Quick Note
Peter Prudden
Today's NFP is getting a lot of backlash, but frankly the bulls want to run the tape and inline is just fine. Bears can make numerous arguments for "so much for QE", as we have 7.9% unemployment and 150k monthly job creation which essentially mirrors September's prints. Sentiment has been running hot, although the two day pullback has worked some of that off. Bulls want to press this tape, it has a distinct feeling of Q1 2012 and 2011.
Tops are a process and euphoria, which has been lagging in price, appears to be entering the stadium. Why do I suggest this? High yield junk bonds have been getting hit like Mike Tyson in the glory days. See both sides. I continue to stress that traders and investors need to manage positions and not chase stocks here. I am a continued seller, into strength only, and will manage a SPY hedge. Above SPX 1512 and we can look for 1523 to 1530.
Gap 'N Go or Gap 'N Crap
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text: Something I've been wondering. How does one become a solo hunter? I've always hunted with friends or family. This last year my main hunting partner moved away and I attempted to do some solo hunting. It was not very fun for me. Anyone can ask the people who know me and they will tell you, I love hunting and I can't stand to be by myself. Just wondering if anyone here has any ideas how to become a better solo hunter.


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Dec. 4, 2010
Contact: Chad Waller, NAIA Director of Sports Information & Media Services, email@example.com
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ORANGE BEACH, Ala. - (Final Bracket) No. 3-seed Hastings (Neb.) continued its offensive fireworks, this time plowing past No. 4 Notre Dame (Ohio), 5-3 to win its first-ever NAIA Men's Soccer National Championship. In front of 350 fans from the Orange Beach Sportsplex, the Broncos received goals from four different players to end the season with a school-record 25-0 mark. Hastings set a Tournament record for most goals scored with 21 in five matches, including 15 in the last three games.
"I am just so proud of my team," said head coach Chris Kranjc, who wrapped up his 12th season. "Everything we did all season, we did it tonight. We defended with heart, we attacked with passion and precision and we put away chances when we had the shots.
"We did this against a great Notre Dame team. I have the utmost respect for what they have done and for coach McBride. They made it difficult on us tonight."
It wasn't all Hastings to start the contest.
Notre Dame junior Luke Holmes energized the Blue and White fans 90 seconds into the contest. His shot from the right side was his 23rd of the season and fourth goal of the National Championship in five matches. He would later add another in the 69th minute to give him 70 for his career. For his efforts, he was named the Most Valuable Player of the Tournament.
Down 1-0, the Hastings offense got going. Junior Nate Polak tied the score with a marker in the 19th minute. His score started a string of three-consecutive Bronco goals in the first half. Junior Derek Prinz found the back of the net in the 29th minute to hand Hastings a 2-1 edge. Polak then added his second goal of the game in the 33rd minute, which put his goal total at 19 on the year.
With his team trailing 3-1, Notre Dame sophomore Tom Mellor bent a direct kick from 25 yards out in the top-right corner in the 43rd minute. The score stood 3-2 in favor of Hastings until the second half.
Just minutes after intermission, Hastings sophomore Jordan Green took a corner kick from junior Matt Wadleigh and headed the ball into the top corner to give Hastings some breathing room, 4-2. Green was named the Offensive Player of the Tournament as he notched six goals in five Tournament games.
For the third time, Notre Dame came back from a two-goal deficit as Holmes took a pass from senior Jacob Child in the 69th minute. That marker put the score at 4-3 in favor of Hastings.
Senior AJ Dingledine became the fourth Hastings player to score with his blast in the 83rd minute. His goal capped an offensive display that hasn't been seen since 1965. The eight combined goals are the most in a Championship final since Trenton State (N.J.) defeated Earlham (Ind.), 6-2.
Notre Dame, who made it to its first-ever Semifinal round, ends the year at 23-1.
** The two teams were playing in their first-ever National Championship final.
** With a two-goal margin of victory, Hastings is the first team to win by more than one goal in the Championship final since 2007 when Azusa Pacific (Calif.) took down Concordia (Calif.), 2-0.
** The five goals scored by Hastings is the second-most tally in the National Championship final. The last time a team scored five was Lindsey Wilson (Ky.) in the 1996 event. Two teams posted six goals in a Championship final, Quincy (Ill.) did it twice in 1974 and 1966 and Trenton State (N.J.) did it in 1965.
** Hastings broke the Tournament record for most goals scored with 21. The Broncos surpassed the mark of 20 set by Quincy (Ill.) back in 1974.
** The last No. 3 versus No. 4 Championship final match-up was in 2004 when No. 3 Lindenwood (Mo.) defeated No. 4 Auburn Montgomery (Ala.), 1-0.
** Hastings improved to 11-4-3 in its seventh National Championship appearance.
** The Broncos out-scored their opponents 21-4 in their five games in the Tournament.
** Both Hastings and Notre Dame entered the contest ranked in the top-five nationally in goals scored per game with over 4.0.
** Hastings joined its women's team in the Soccer National Championship final today. The women Broncos were defeated by Lee (Tenn.), 3-0 in Decatur, Ala., earlier. The last time that both a men's and women's soccer programs played in the final was Azusa Pacific (Calif.) in 2007. Overall there have been four previous occurrences (1992, 1993, 2006 and 2007), but no school has won a title in both sports in the same season.
** Notre Dame was appearing in its first National Championship match. It joined the wrestling program as the only teams to advance this far in school-history. The wrestling team won the 2010 National Championship.
** Notre Dame fell to 8-3-1 in its fourth National Championship trip.
2010 NAIA Men's Soccer All-Tournament Team:
Alex Klein, Notre Dame (Ohio), Jr.
Cody Poteat, Hastings (Neb.), Jr.
Deshorn Brown, Mobile (Ala.), Fr.
Jordan Green, Hastings (Neb.), So.
Luke Holmes, Notre Dame (Ohio), Jr.
Nate Polak, Hastings (Neb.), Jr.
Justin Beck, William Jewell (Mo.), Sr.
Ruben Diaz, Mobile (Ala.), Sr.
Tom Mellor, Notre Dame (Ohio), So.
Yannic Thiel, Hastings (Neb.), Sr.
Chris Dillon, Mobile (Ala.), So.
Daniel Knight, Notre Dame (Ohio), Jr.
Joseph Omondi, Bethel (Tenn.), Jr.
Derek Prinz, Hastings (Neb.), Jr.
Most Valuable Player of the Tournament:
Luke Holmes, Notre Dame (Ohio), Jr.
Offensive Player of the Tournament:
Jordan Green, Hastings (Neb.), So.
Defensive Player of the Tournament:
Derek Prinz, Hastings (Neb.), Jr.
Champions of Character Brine-NAIA Scholarship Recipient:
Cody Poteat, Hastings (Neb.), Jr.
Nels Dahlquist Memorial Team Sportsmanship Award:
Hastings College (Neb.)


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Discussion in 'The Bar' started by Slippy, Dec 2, 2012.
...and Paranorman.
Paranorman was more amusing.
They jumped the shark with MIB III. It sucked ass.
Kay. Keep us updated.
I watched The Yes Men Fix the World.
Was ok.
S'all I got.
I played Trouble for shots, and got a little drunk on friday night.
sorry pal
Should I bother?
You shouldn't bother with MIB III. Boring as popcorn farts.
Mib 3 was pretty ridiculous i wish I didn't waste time watching that piece of shit
It's a documentary about a couple of guys going around the world pranking corporations.
MIB III: they thought Will Smith carries the franchise all by himself. Tommy Lee Jones had too small a role and the movie lost the audience long before Jones returns to the story.
I don't think that's something I'd ever bother with anyways, let alone hearing a bad review.
They lost the "funny". I didn't giggle once.
I watched terminator 2 judgment day
What about the new Twilight?
tell me Tommie Lee Jones refused to do that one


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Bonita Charlene Randolph Totten, 60, of Little Hocking, Ohio, died Feb. 13, 2013, at Camden Clark Medical Center, Memorial Campus.
Bonita Charlene Randolph Totten, 60, of Little Hocking, Ohio, died Feb. 13, 2013, at Camden Clark Medical Center, Memorial Campus.
She was born in Ripley, W.Va., on Aug. 22, 1952, and was the daughter of the late Corden Corbit and Violet Alma Redman Randolph.
She had worked for Camden-Clark Memorial Hospital for 33 years. She was a member of the Woman's Auxiliary of Post 15 of the American Legion, Parkersburg. She loved her flowers, feeding the squirrels and birds, and spending time with her grandchildren and her family.
She is survived by her husband, Earl O. Totten; her daughter, Rhea Dawn Parkard of Powell, Ohio; two stepsons, Jeff Totten of Torrance, Calif., and Greg Totten of Washingon, D.C.; three grandchildren, Ashton and Jordan Packard and Caiden Totten; four brothers, Chester (Ruth) Randolph of Leon, W.Va., Dorsel (Rosemary) Randolph of Long Bottom, Ohio, and Marvin and Rick Randolph, both of Prescott, Ariz.; three sisters, Maggie Randolph of Tempe, Ariz., Sandy (Ron) Piersol of Belpre and Alma Harter of Parkersburg; several nieces and nephews; great-nieces and great-nephews; and her dog, Emmi.
Services will be 1 p.m. Wednesday at Leavitt Funeral Home, Belpre. Burial will follow in Rockland Cemetery. Friends may call at the funeral home from noon-4 p.m. and 6-9 p.m. Tuesday, and up to services Wednesday.
Memorials in Bonita's memory may be made to the Humane Society of Parkersburg, or the American Cancer Society.
Online condolences may be sent to the family at www.leavittfuneralhome.com


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IT was almost Kentucky fried students when 14 visitors from the Western Kentucky University had their first day in Warrnambool.
Fortunately for them, learning to surf was on their itinerary as they frolicked in the ocean waves along with thousands of other beachgoers at Lady Bay escaping 41-degree temperature.
The students came from freezing temperatures that have gripped most of the United States and relished the opportunity to swim in the sea — an excursion that at home takes a day's drive from their inland state.
Learning to surf was among the quintessential Aussie things the students wanted to experience during two weeks in the country as part of their studies of Australian communications and culture.
The students are also learning about Australian expressions such as "it's your shout" and that the "boot" of a car is what Americans call a trunk.
The 14 students are studying either PhD or honours in communication or education, or completing final-year units on global communication.
Western Kentucky University communication lecturer Donna Schiess said the trip aimed to give the students an idea of what's needed to become "culturally competent" to work in another country.
They spent more than a week at Deakin University in Melbourne learning about Victoria's history before arriving in Warrnambool on Monday night where they were welcomed with a barbecue.
Their visit to Warrnambool is the pilot for what is hoped to be an exchange program between Deakin and Western Kentucky University.
The idea for the exchange was fostered by Deakin's education school co-ordinator at Warrnambool, Terri Redpath, and Dr Schiess after they met at a conference in the United States in 2009.
Ms Redpath and Dr Schiess are researching the use of cross-institutional collaboration and technology as a way of teaching and communicating learning in a global context.
The study tour will enable students from both universities to consider studying at either institution, including teacher placements.
There are also opportunities to explore establishing a global classroom with online cross-institution units.
"Like Deakin, Western Kentucky University has a strong commitment to online delivery and cutting edge technologies in education," Ms Redpath said.
Future discussions will centre on ways to link students and course offerings.
"This is at an early stage but this trip is an exciting start," Ms Redpath said.


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2013 Softball
Beavers take down Thomas More
Bluffton snaps three-game skid with 3-2 win over Thomas More
March 6, 2013
Roanoke stats I Thomas More stats
KISSIMMEE, Fla. - The Bluffton University softball team struggled to put hits together in a 3-0 loss to #5 Roanoke before snapping a three-game losing skid with a 3-2 win over Thomas More on Wednesday, March 6, 2013. The Beavers moved to 5-3 with the split heading into their final day at the Rebel Spring Games.
Bluffton managed five hits in game one with freshman Ashley Knippen (Wapakoneta) going 1-of-1 with a sacrifice bunt and a stolen base. Starter Chloe Shell (Covington) fell to 2-2 despite limiting 2012 NCAA Regional champion Roanoke to three runs on seven hits. She struck out one and walked one during her 5.1 innings in the circle.
The Beavers turned it around with a 3-2 win over Thomas More after a two hour wait to get on the diamond. The Saints took advantage of a Bluffton error in the second for a 1-0 lead. Natalie Nikitas (Jeffersonville, Ind.) belted a 2-2 offering over the wall in right center to knot the game at one in the bottom half of the frame.
Katie Clark (New Palestine, Ind.) put Bluffton up 2-1 an inning later when she singled home Shelby Erfrord (Paulding) who walked to open the frame.
Thomas More tied it back up in the fifth with their second unearned run of the game, but the Beavers took advantage of a hit batter and a walk to plate what turned out to be the winning run. Jo Bondra (Highland Heights/Mayfield), who shined after moving into the starting lineup, reached on a beautiful bunt single in front of the plate and when the throw scooted away, Chelsea Weitz (Dayton/Carroll) motored home.
Bondra went 2-of-3 at the dish and Nikitas hit a bomb to lead the Bluffton offense in game two. Kayla Owens (Cincinnati/McAuley) was outstanding for the second straight day, allowing just two runs, both unearned, while moving to 2-1 this season. She fanned six and walked two hitters in 6.1 innings of work. Shell retired the final two batters for her first save of the year.
The Beavers wrap up their Florida trip with games against Presentation and Aurora on Thursday, March 7, 2013. Game one is slated for 11 a.m. at the Osceola Complex.


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Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 8th Nov 2007 17:33 UTC, submitted by WillM
One year after sealing their surprise alliance, Novell and Microsoft have announced an expansion of their technical collaboration to 'link together the existing Windows and Linux frameworks'. The firms will extend their existing collaboration to focus on virtualisation, standards-based management, directory and identity federation and document format compatibility. As part of this process, Microsoft said that both companies are 'now working closely' at the Microsoft and Novell Interoperability Lab in Massachusetts.
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RE[4]: Good for Novell!
by mnem0 on Fri 9th Nov 2007 10:10 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Good for Novell!"
For many years, Microsoft has prevented competitors from creating software that interacts with their software and the data it creates. They have embraced not only proprietary software (which I can tolerate) but also proprietary interfaces, protocols, and formats.
There is a moral argument against this, but I believe that the practical argument is much stronger. For years Microsoft has impeded your ability to get your work done by preventing competitors from delivering potentially superior drop-in replacements. This is part of a cynical market strategy that assumes that customers won't switch to competing products if it requires a disruptive infrastructure transition and a problematic data migration.
By radically lower customers' expectations of interoperability, Microsoft now receives enthusiastic praise for any amount of cooperation. That Novell had to play rotten patent games with Microsoft in order to gain highly limited cooperation on interoperability is absurd. The same offer has not been extended to Red Hat because they refuse to validate the false relationship between patents and interoperability.
Absent from this interoperability agreement is some really critical sticking points such as Exchange. Microsoft proprietized corporate email, and they just won't let go. This is an artificial barrier to competition. Undocumented protocols should be illegal in the absence of an open-source implementation. This isn't a philosophical or moral argument. It's purely practical.
If you really want to get your work done, then you should demand that Microsoft unconditionally release royalty-free specifications for its software products. Otherwise you're not getting the the quality of software you deserve, because potential competitors are being stifled. Microsoft has no right to pick and choose its competition. That's your job as a customer. Nor should Microsoft have the right to charge for the privilege of interoperability. Otherwise there is no pretense of a free market for software.
Microsoft has good products and plenty of smart developers. What are they afraid of? Why don't they want to compete unless its on their terms? Why are vendors like Novell so willing to agree to an unequal playing field? And why are people so delighted to see token cooperation from a company that has so brazenly refused to compete to the detriment of software users everywhere?
Excellent comment! I agree completely with every single point you make. I think you just described _exactly_ what the real problem is, and I'm very glad you took the time to write it down in such a clear manner.


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DES MOINES - The Estherville Lincoln Central boys' track state qualifiers ran well in their final two events at the Class 2A State Track Meet on Friday.
Justin Heinrichs ran a career-best time in the 400-meter low hurdles to finish 14th in 56.76 seconds. He was ranked 16th out of 24 competitors heading into the event.
ELC coach Dick Barrett reports it's the second fastest time in the event in school history. John Duitsman holds the current record at 56.05 seconds.
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ELC's Andres Blanco hands off to Adam Reiter for the first exchange of the medley relay. The two seniors both ran 200s in the event.
Photo by Dan Voigt, E'burg Publishing
"I'm very happy with Justin's effort," said ELC coach Dick Barrett.
Tristan Twedt of South Hamilton won the event in 54.02 seconds.
Meanwhile, the distance medley relay team also ran its best time of the year-3:43.43.
The quartet of Andres Blanco, Adam Reiter, Matt Burrell and Joe Heinrichs were ranked 21st in the event heading into the state meet and finished 17th.
"Andres and Adam ran their best combined times in the medley," said Barrett. "I'm happy we improved and that the three seniors got to come to state for the first time in their careers."
Blanco, Reiter and Burrell are seniors. Heinrichs is a junior.
Very little separated the competitors in the medley relay. The eighth-place medal team from Camanche finished in 3:38.72.
However Monticello won the event by 3 seconds over the rest of the field as they finished in 3:32.32.