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I've personally had the experience of trying to find a file for a customer who had just finished editing a critical report, saved it, and then couldn't locate it to deliver to their client
Was it a Word file? Locate all
or search by last modified time.
"Or just be a frickin file nazi."
Yeah, but exterminating
Yeah, but exterminating
Not me. They're a plague, it's time for a final solution.
They can search for files by typing in words to search for and pressing enter.
So like Tracker that comes installed by default on Gnome based distributions then?
Or Beagle, that was released somewhat before Spotlight.
We don't press enter.
That'll free up space on the new Macbook!
Who cares?
Clearly Mark Shuttleworth cares. He wants to make money off Ubuntu.
Are people really so insecure about their OS that they want the reinforcment of knowing that even senile grandmothers can and do use it?
Are people really so insecure about their OS that they worry about whether a senile old grandmother can use the same one?
You don't get it.
My grandmother could use spotlight. She won't be able to use find, locate and grep.
And that is the target audience of Shuttleworth's point: the Computer Illiterates.
You don't get it.
My grandmother could use spotlight. She won't be able to use find, locate and grep.
And that is the target audience of Shuttleworth's point: the Computer Illiterates.
I agree, everyone on here acts like linux is way better because it's had this stuff for ages but i STILL can't use most of it because it requires spending hours online searching for answers (and when you're trying to get the internet working in linux on a dual boot machine, it's hell... you have to reboot to something else, search for answers, reboot to linux, try it, forget what you had to do, reboot...)
I don't really need to try hard to make the argument because you guys either already know what i mean or you pretend like it's easy ("duh just type ~rf - m" or something something, because yeah, a menu to do that would kill someone).
Anyway, yeah, spotlight is probably nice. Google desktop is also awesome. I especially like being able to just double tap control to bring up the search, type what i want, it's right there.
Anyway, now that i've pissed off everyone...
(and when you're trying to get the internet working in linux on a dual boot machine, it's hell... you have to reboot to something else, search for answers, reboot to linux, try it, forget what you had to do, reboot...)
Ahh... the good ol' days.
I remember doing that when I was 11 years old, trying to Install Redhat 6.0 on my mom's computer.
Boy have things changed quickly. Now we have LiveCD's (and LiveDVD's) to test hardware with... the most important of all being your network connection... if you have that
"duh just type ~rf - m" or something something, because yeah, a menu to do that would kill someone
For no one thing would a menu item to do that thing be particularly bad. But you can't put _every_ task in a menu, because there are infinitely many tasks.
If you find people often tell you to type in commands you don't understand, it's probably because it's the most efficient way to do something once you do master it. See for instance http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/modifying-functions-678643/ [linuxquestions.org]. I've built a 1650-byte podcatcher in #!sh [and that's including proper error-checking and all].
It's also dense communication-wise; compare "sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.1" with "System -> Administration -> Network; unlock, wired connection, properties, enable, static ip, 192.168.0.1".
That being said, though, deskenvs should support the most common and important tasks in an easy-to-use way.
My grandmother could use spotlight. She won't be able to use find, locate and grep.
Sounds like find, locate and grep need a nice GUI, rather than being fatally flawed.
Sounds like find, locate and grep need a nice GUI, rather than being fatally flawed.
I think that was the point Mark Shuttleworth was trying to make.
Spotlight is faster. Very much faster...
How many binary file formats can you search that way?
Does it search user-defined/entered metadata (Spotlight comments) too?
....How many binary file formats can you search that way....
How many grandmas do you know or think you might know or imagine, who want to search a binary file? How many would even know what a binary file is for? OK, this is
Um, doc files? ppt? xls?
Tracker and Beagle can. They can also search your email, IM logs, browser's bookmarks and history, installed applications, dictionary, Tomboy notes, open windows, and God only knows what else.
Next I suppose you're going to say that rsync is the same thing as Time Machine, when in reality while they may be in vaguely the same arena of functionality, they are orders of magnitude different in utility. Instant searches of both local and remotely accessible drives tied to various easy filtering and categorization functions makes Spotlight a game-changer. Just like always on, incremental, and back-through-time searches and intra-file record retrieval (ie. 1 address book entry, photo, song, etc) make Time Machine a game-changer.
Have a look at Tracker and Beagle. There's desktop search on Linux too
Less than a minute of Bash scripting.
Obviously you're not a consultant.
"If you're not part of the solution there's good money to be made in prolonging the problem."
Do you honestly expect ANY customer to pay you if you solve their problem in less than a minute?
Back to school young grasshopper, you're obviously not ready for the real world.
"Don't panic" is pretty darn good advocacy.
You don't have to "nanny state" everyone. You can let
people know that the problem really isn't as big or as
bad as some people would like you to believe.
You don't have to disrupt everything and re-engineer
everything and in the process BREAK everything by
introducing loads of new bugs. You can just use the
tools that are already there.
Some of them even include GUI elements.
it's just not well publicized because to
- Or look in My Recent Documents (works with most applications)
- Or look in Recent Files in the application of choice's file menu (most applications)
- Or go to File > Save, eye the file browser that probably opens the last location you saved to
Or, you know, grow short-term memory capacity.
Honestly, "I just saved a file and now I don't know where I put it" is more indicative of the human operating the computer, than it is of the computer apparently lacking facilities to find the files.
That said
- Google Desktop
- etc.
Will all index files in ways that you can easily retrieve them beyond that base Windows will do. OS X and *nix systems do this even better and in an easier to use (completely transparent) way, too.
Shuttleworth's real dig is not, "Hey, we're going to make it so that you can do stuff you couldn't do before." No, no, no. Of course you can already do stuff like this. And I'm sure everyone who reads this site could tell you how.
The point is making it screamingly obvious and intuitive. Fool-proof. Unconscious. Integrated. The kind of abstraction where you don't think, "Hey, I have an application to do such-and-such," but where you think, "This is a computer, so it does that if I click here." Like the "Back
Honestly, "I just saved a file and now I don't know where I put it" is more indicative of the human operating the computer, than it is of the computer apparently lacking facilities to find the files.
And this statement perfectly demonstrates why Linux is not now, and will not be for a very long time, a true Desktop OS.
The Interface Matters. Linux has the technology down pretty well. It's not always the best, but it generally has the most breadth. The problem is the interface is designed around the technology, and not the humans for which the technology exists.
Your statement is, essentially, "Linux can do this task just fine, the problem is most people don't take advantage of it." Simply leaving it at that, and blaming the user, is not going to improve matters. On the other hand, if you look into it further and ask, "why don't people use this functionality?" might lead you to a solution that people will use. However, such inquiry is anathema to the Linux ethos.
The problem lies not with the user, the problem lies with the Linux programmers who show clear disdain for the needs of their users[*], giving primacy to the nature of the technology instead.
Doing that gives Linux all sorts of flexibility and technological capabilities, while simultaneously making it a fundamentally useless desktop OS.
[*] Some people like to imagine the target users are not desktop users, but sysadmins and Linux programmers. Fair enough, but this whole thread is based on the premise of Linux as a Desktop OS. Designing a system for sysadmins and Linux programmers completely precludes any notion of it as a Desktop OS to anyone outside of those groups.
Honestly, "I just saved a file and now I don't know where I put it" is more indicative of the human operating the computer, than it is of the computer apparently lacking facilities to find the files.
And this statement perfectly demonstrates why Linux is not now, and will not be for a very long time, a true Desktop OS.
I couldn't find my keys this morning. It's a real shame, too, since I used to think my car was roadworthy. But it turns out that it expects me to know where I put my keys, and blames the user when they go missing.
I just want to drive to work! I don't want to manage a bunch of keys...
This hack works well, and illustrates one of the fundamental problems with storing/retrieving data based upon content. Current file systems can locate data based upon a few common characteristics such as timestamps, file type, size, names, etc. But more advanced indexing and lookup systems tend to be domain specific. The important characteristics of each piece of data tend to differ from one application domain to another. Or between organizations, business processes, or individual users.
The 'find
I should be able to tag a file with "friends, birthdays, gifts" and be able to find that file again using any of the terms.
Hierarchical filesystems are ok for systems management, but they are crap for assigning meaning to user data. A hierarchy implies that any particular file can only have a single aspect when in fact it may have dozens of aspects.
You think it's going to be any better for people who can't find things they saved?
They can't find it because they didn't care at the time of saving to attach enough information to the file to be able to find it later. Instead, they saved it under a name like "letter5", or even worse, "asdf", and possibly left it in a random directory as well.
Tags won't be just as bad, they'll be worse. They require a considerable effort to tag consistently. You also have to think of all the possible tags that could be related to the file. Is it "friends", "acquaintances", "buddies", etc? Is it singular or plural? Will "birthdays" be enough, or you also have to file it under "parties", "celebrations" and "events" in case you remember the file you need was related to some sort of celebration but you can't remember which?
What happens with categories that are diffuse, change meaning, or their contents? For instance, take emails from Alice, that initially get tagged with "acquaintances", then progresses to "friends", then "significant other", then "ex". If you search for something that was mentioned in a friend's email, are Alice's emails tagged as they were initially (in which case after the upgrade from acquaintances to friends her previous mail needs an extra keyword to find), or have they all been updated to "ex", in which case the search might fail since she was a friend back then?
Coming up with a good keywords system is something that only geeks and secretaries are going to do. Your average person will at best pick a couple keywords, then complain they can't find stuff because they didn't use the right keywords, or that every single document comes up because all the mail is tagged as "email" and nothing else.
I do agree with you, however for the particular point you raise, I do think the "nicest" way to do it would be to tag the file with "Alice". That tag is meta-tagged with "friend", and then after the change in relationship, you only alter the meta-tag, automatically allowing the files tagged "Alice" to be found with "significant other" or later, "ex".
In the same way, the tag "birthday" has the meta-tags "celebration" and "events", so those searches will also work, but will find other non-birthday related th
Merging the efforts of Nepomuk [kde.org] and new file systems like brtfs are the way to go with this. Handling of file events can be done better than what we have now with inotify. File systems should allows plugins to update indexes on files within the file system structure and file systems should allow queries and query monitors directly.
DBPedia shows the power of SPARQL and implementing an efficient storage for it into a file system is the first step forward. Then user interfaces in GNOME and KDE can take advantage of the queries that are currently very expensive to do.
Ubuntu is in a good position to help out on the Nepomuk effort. Mandriva is already sponsoring this work. More support for this desktop-independent project would be a boon for achieving the file system Mark is looking for.
Version control, searching, and all of the other advances since the first directory tree are good things to add, but they must be supported down to the application level.
VAX/VMS had a wonderful system of versioning baked right into things, if you worked on a file, it kept versions for you as you saved them....
The default was the last version, unless you explicitly chose a different one. This is an incredibly useful tool, and I still miss it to this day, 20 years after I last used it.
If you can't express an idea explicitly, your power of expression is radically limited. If we can get consensus and support a bigger set of expressions, we can do a whole bunch of cool new stuff. As long as we follow the leader, we'll never do anything this innovative, and we'll always be playing catch up.
It won't be easy!
To do even this simple thing with Linux, all of our applications would have to be re-written to enable a new file specification syntax, hopefully one reasonably compatible with the past. We're talking about a shitload of work, so it's important to agree on a set of goals first, to avoid having to re-do it later.
To do even this simple thing with Linux, all of our applications would have to be re-written to enable a new file specification syntax, hopefully one reasonably compatible with the past. We're talking about a shitload of work, so it's important to agree on a set of goals first, to avoid having to re-do it later.
And there you have it, that is the advantage that open source really has. Backwards compatibility can be dropped fairly quickly because other software that relies on those APIs can be rewritten by the same people who changed the API.
To do even this simple thing with Linux, all of our applications would have to be re-written to enable a new file specification syntax,
Why? Hans Reiser demonstrated that files can be directories too, without breaking the VFS layer.
Say we bake versioning into the file system. You want the old versions of
Same old syntax. The name resolution is handled differently, but that's all in the file system. You could probably even write a fuse file system that adds a layer of versioning on top of another file system. No need to ever touch the apps.
If you want the duct tape solution: write a shell script that checks whether anything changed every n minutes, then commit your home directory to subversion/git/....
Do you have any numbers on how much space was used on extra versions for a "typical" distribution of files and usage patterns? TANSTAAFL and all that
Do you have any numbers on how much space was used on extra versions for a "typical" distribution of files and usage patterns? TANSTAAFL and all that
Of course it did take up space and you had to do some maintenance to reclaim that, but ATEOTD if you've bought a disk with N capacity and you only use N/2, it follows that the rest of it is essentially wasted. Might as well do something useful with it.
but ATEOTD if you've bought a disk with N capacity and you only use N/2, it follows that the rest of it is essentially wasted. Might as well do something useful with it.
I come dangerously close to 100% before buying new storage. I even delete videos I'm done watching just to reclaim space [I can always download them again if I need them]. You're correct, but the condition of your if-statement is only true for 5% of the disk lifespan.
I'm not trying to say "wah wah it uses more space". I'm trying find out whether it's worth complaining about
You had to do some maintenance to reclaim that
Here's an interesting idea I just had: when the disk is full, it automatically runs through the non-newest versions of all files f
HAMMER [dragonflybsd.org] provides similar capabilities; you can view files, directories, or entire filesystems as of specific versions. "hammer history foo" to find the history of a file, then look at foo@@[id] to view the file at any given point.
I still use VMS today at work (on Alpha and Itanium). I'd like to point out that versioning like this works a hell of a lot better on small text files than larger binary files. You also tend to get initimate with the purge command (which leaves deletes old versions) otherwise your sysadmin gets narky when you run out of disk. Half the time you just end up running a purge of everything but the latest version, negating the benefit of having the versioning in the first place.
Note too that VMS lacks a lot of wh
I used VMS for years, and I don't think I'd want to go back to its versioning system. It was actually kind of annoying. You kept on having to do the purge command to get rid of all the old versions of files that were cluttering up your account and using up your disk space.
For my day-to-day activities on Linux, I get along just fine without that kind of automatic versioning. Emacs makes ~ files, which gives me versioning one level deep, and that's almost always all I ever need. I also use Unison to mirror
What's interesting is that maps of the world have a quite good relation to where the locations really are. There are some projection methods which are good enough to put the information on a 2D map. The problem is that this is not possible or very difficult for other information like all your documents on your harddisk. Tree structures don't work very well because its impossible to find one single tree where everything fits nicely into just one section. Tagging and search is usually better but its also not
Well, there are some people who can't find Pacific Ocean on the map. I dont see map makers running around in panic, thinking how to make their maps more accessible to the general population...
I think it's just a shortage:
Well, I personally believe
U.S. Americans are unable to do so
because uh, some
people out there in our nation
don't have maps
And we should all help Mark Shuttleworth make more maps!
and I believe that our education like
such as South Africa
I believe that they should
our education over here!
in the U.S.
should the the U.S.,
should help South Africa
I mean, think of the children! You don't hate children, do you?
so we will be able to build up
our future
for our children
(watch more intellectual roadkill at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WALIARHHLII [youtube.com])
Why did the user lose the file? Maybe it would be good for the user to learn how to remember filenames,
Funny example: A couple of weeks ago, while downloading and installing something, it asked where I wanted it saved. Naturally, I typed in a file name, starting with a couple of directories with slashes between them, and hit the Save button. Then I went to that directory to look at the file - and it wasn't there! I looked around in all the obvious places, and didn't find it.
Now, I can see some people snickering at a "dump Windows user". But this was on linux. So I did what y'all would eventually do, I ran a "find / "*foo*" command, where "foo" was part of the file name. After a good while, it found it. It was in my home directory (not the one in the save window's Directory widget), and its name had all the slashes changed to colons.
My reaction, of course, was "WTF???" I did a couple more tests, and got the same insane misbehavior. The app was obviously intentionally programmed (with malice aforethought) to do this to pathnames.
Lesson: On any system, linux included, an app can do utterly insane things like this that no sensible user would ever expect. Some apps seem designed to do such things in the worst possible way, perhaps to challenge the sucker^Wuser to figure it out.
It is, of course, all part of the popular GUI culture, in which the user isn't supposed to worry their pretty little head about such details. Users are assumed ignorant and illiterate, the details should be hidden from them, and the app can decide for itself what things are called and where they should reside.
It's part of why the more intelligent people eventually migrate to the CLI environment, which has far fewer such insanities as roadblocks to getting things done. But even there, the attitude that "the user is an idiot" is spreading. And the CLI environment isn't for everyone, since it requires a good level of literacy. So we can expect such things to continue, and probably get worse, for a long time.
Anyway, I have one more item on my long list of things developers can do to make life difficult for users.
Yes, but most users don't create the pacific ocean, save it in the default location, and then have no idea whatsoever where that default location is, because it's not a fixed location across all apps, it never says it anywhere except the Save dialog, and it's not a sensible, obvious default.
That's the problem we're trying to solve here - not 'clueless users lose things', but 'regular users get confused when every program saves somewhere different by default'.
I've personally had the experience of trying to find a file for a customer who had just finished editing a critical report, saved it, and then couldn't locate it to deliver to their client.
So the user decides not to pay attention to where the file was saved (I mean, you do get to choose where it goes, it does not just happen) and later has difficulty locating it. Yes, that is unpleasant, but is additional complexity in the file system really the best solution? I am honestly not sure how I feel about that
They claim that they are not interested in understanding, but it seems like they are strongly interested in not understanding. Is there something to be gained by accommodating this?
Not really. It will just make systems appear childlike in nature to those who are willing to learn, and generally unpleasant to use. Of course, I started out in 1975 on a mainframe and spent a lot of years after that at the command line, so perhaps I'm not the best person to ask. But, like most other things in life, there's a balance that has to be struck, and no matter what you do people will still be required to learn something about their machines.
A lot of that goes to motivation: people learn some pr
A lot of that goes to motivation: people learn some pretty damn complex activities when it comes to earning a driver's license, for example
That's because cars only have one level of user interface. If they were sometimes required to directly push the levers to turn right, cut the ignition wire to stop the car, or remove and disassemble the motor (and then rebuild it) to recharge fuel, they would all use taxis.
It's easy to avoid understanding a system at a deep level. People are pretty good at memorizing steps to get a job done. That doesn't mean they have any deep understanding of what they're doing. While this is a decent short-term way to get from point a to b, it's worthless if the steps change in any small way, of course. This is why continuously changing interfaces are a big deal to companies and office workers - most software developers don't understand this, because they think about things in an enti
So the user decides not to pay attention to where the file was saved (I mean, you do get to choose where it goes, it does not just happen)
This isn't strictly true, as each program has a default action on saving a file. Some default to desktop, or to "My Documents" or ask for a directory by default. Others may do "smart" checking and try to sort the files depending on what file type gets detected. It's this wide variation that's the problem. Even for someone who is knowledgeable enough to handle the situation without help, it's still a pain in the ass (and waste of time) to dig out the setting and replace it with your preferred setting.
Yes, that is unpleasant, but is additional complexity in the file system really the best solution?
Probably not the best solution. Better would be for the OS developers to set a standard directory scheme and enforce other developers to comply with it. If you want to change the scheme you can dig in and do it yourself. Of course, this may not be practical, as it may prove more complex to enforce compliance (and still keep things customizable) than it would be to bolt on the same functionality in the file system.
that at some point there needs to be a minimum expectation of competence on the part of the user.
But who gets to decide what that expectation is? Don't forget, computers are not "for" hobbyists, developers, experts and geeks, they are for normal people to make their other tasks easier. The more time these people spend training and raising their minimum level of computer knowledge, the less time they spend doing their real work/play, the less value the computer has for them.
Is it really too much to ask of a user that they understand that it is a machine, an inanimate object, and it generally does only what they tell it to do (insert Windows jokes here), and that if they tell it to do something by mistake (like saving a file in an unintended location), the mistake is theirs and not the machine's?
Yes it is too much to ask, because it's not true. Computers as machines do what developers tell them to do. The amount of instructions given by the programmer vis-a-vis object code vastly outnumbers the number of instructions a typical user is going to issue to the machine. This is necessarily true since each instruction given by a user is a blind proxy for at least one instruction (and probably more like hundreds or thousands of instructions) given by a developer.
Users can't be expected to predict a) all the myriad directions that a programmer has given/is giving the computer and b) the effects of the user's instructions when interpreted in the context of the programmer's instructions and assumptions. Most users are bad at using computers effectively because they don't understand how developers think. You wanna try teaching them how you think?
If that is too much to ask, then what is a more reasonable standard? How far should we go to accommodate users who, to put it bluntly, refuse to take responsibility for their actions?
Well, in my opinion, I think we're pretty close to the reasonable standard right now. People can decide for themselves how much they want to learn, how much pain they want to suffer for their ignorance versus how much time they want to spend reducing their ignorance, and vote with their wallet. You're basically saying that you want users to learn more, to make developers' lives easier, but in fact developers get paid to make users' lives easier. Maybe the developers should do their jobs better.
It's like that Unix saying, (paraphrase) "Unix doesn't try to stop you from doing something stupid, because that would also stop you from doing something clever". I like that, not because I think it's witty but because in my opinion, it reveals a design philosophy that assumes that maybe this is new to you and you don't und
So the user decides not to pay attention to where the file was saved
Of course the user paid attention to where the file was saved: it was saved in Word, inside the Save As... dialog. But when she tried to recover the file using the Open..., the file was no longer there. That's what Shuttleworth means when he says there are two completely different mental models of content storage: one is tied to functionality in applications, the other is a tree of folders and files.
Users understand perfectly that it is a machine that should do only what they tell it to do. They get upset when the machine *doesn't* do what they told them, because the machine changed their data to a different level of abstraction that they don't know about. To someone without a complete mental model of the inner workings of a computer, those different abstraction levels are a source of utter confusion.
You geeks only see the last one, and typical users only see the first one - and when they are required to jump the gap between the two completely unrelated abstractions, they are lost. At least the "My Documents" kind of folders tries to simplify the model so that users don't have to learn the two models.
So don't blame the users of something that is fault of the software designer [wikipedia.org] because of their insufficient research about the human API. Throwing layers upon layers of abstraction is a good way to tell programmers how the machine works, but it's not good for everybody else. If you designed a machine that only required one abstraction layer to be used efficiently [wikipedia.org], users would love to learn it to the highest proficiency.
I just used my last mod point on a less worthy post, but I'll blow it off in order to say that I agree with the parent, and to add that I wholeheartedly despise the all-too-common mindset that expects and even encourages people to stay ignorant their whole lives.
...had the experience of trying to find a file for a customer who had just finished editing a critical report, saved it, and then couldn't locate it...
None of this would be an issue if folks were competent and created directories themselves, and Word (or whatever) asked where to save stuff, as opposed to just assuming (or insisting on) some default system provided directory.
Am I the only person who hates those "My Documents" folders? Or on a Mac iTunes insisting on putting music in a certain weird place? I want to create my own folders, and maintain why own directory structure, and know exactly where stuff is because I put it there---not because Microsoft/Apple/Ubuntu think that's where I should keep stuff.
For the most part, maintaining my own folders for stuff works out just fine (easy backup, easy moving among environments, etc.), except when some program assumes it knows better, and saves a file "somewhere"; really hate it when that happens.
ie: The problem is caused by Microsoft/Apple (and Linux following) to cater to stupid users who just want to create a document and not care where it is saved. Those same users probably wouldn't be able to locate the file (for copy/backup, etc) unless they use the same program they used to create the file.
Or on a Mac iTunes insisting on putting music in a certain weird place? I want to create my own folders, and maintain why own directory structure, and know exactly where stuff is because I put it there---not because Microsoft/Apple/Ubuntu think that's where I should keep stuff.
I know that you're not really looking for a solution - but that behaviour in iTunes is optional. You can turn it off, and then iTunes will use whatever folder structure you've already got.
The thing is that 99% of iTunes users don't know, and don't want to know, exactly where in the filesystem their music is stored, they just want to click on iTunes and see it. So that option is on by default.
The "My Documents" folder is not a weird place, is the only one that can be accessed in a sane way from the Save and Load dialogs. Normal user data is tied to the applications they use (the filesystem *is* the weird place to put data), so it's just natural that their mental model of storage is mediated by the application storage functions.
Meddle not in the ways of filesystems. Lest you succumb to the curse of Reiser.
We need a consistent experience across GNOME, KDE, OpenOffice and Firefox so that content can flow from app to app in a seamless fashion and the user's expectations can be met no matter which app or environment they happen to use.
In Windows we have survived several such attempts. e.g. "Recent File" or "Documents" in Start menu; or the useless location buttons in open/save file dialogs.
Let's just hope I would be still able to open a file at random location. Because the statement makes me feel that eventually I would be able to find all possible files - system thinks I may need to find, but not the files I actually need.
I've personally had the experience of trying to find a file for a customer who had just finished editing a critical report, saved it, and then couldn't locate it to deliver to their client.
Orienting future development on full idiots worked well in past... Or not? Well, GNOME full of it already and another drop of inusability into the mix will not hurt much its rabid fans.
As they say, give man a fish...
P.S. rfc1925, ch 11.
If someone sends a file to me over Empathy, and I want to open it in Amarok, then I shouldn't have to work with two completely different mental models of content storage.
And you wouldn't have to, if every app would just show the frigging directory tree as it exists, instead of trying to fool the user with a random bunch of stupid fake roots in every GUI.
If someone sends a file to me over Empathy, and I want to open it in Amarok, then I shouldn't have to work with two completely different mental models of content storage.
Yet another abstraction layer.
Sounds like he wants Office.
Seriously, what the hell was his problem in finding the latest document someone "misplaced" in their PC.
Recent Documents?
I can think of more ways to find a recent document, but so can any other reader here.
But, this idiot thinks it's a new idea to have... What do they call it, a DOCUMENT STANDARD?
Can't even call this one fake advertising.
My mother in law in upstate NY had a Windows box that she used for exactly two purposes: email, and playing online Scrabble. Her Windows machine got full of malware, to the point where it wouldn't even boot. While she was visiting us in California this summer, I set up a machine with Ubuntu for her to use, and she got fairly comfortable with GNOME and Firefox. I sent an Ubuntu install CD home with her on the plane, and she went ahead and installed it with virtually no problems. I only had to talk her through a couple of issues on the phone, the main one being non-Linux-related: her BIOS wasn't set to boot from a CD.
She got going with email, and then it was time to get her set up for scrabble. The one she plays isn't the famous facebook one, it's a java program that accesses a club's server in Romania. Well, I think I spent about an hour with her on the phone, and we still don't have it working. One thing that took us a heck of a long time was that when she downloaded the jar file for the scrabble app, neither of us could figure out where the file had gone. Probably if I'd been in the same room with her it would have only taken me thirty seconds to locate the file, but over the phone, it was more like I was experiencing it from her point of view, and it was completely confusing. She was clicking around in the Firefox download manager, in the GNOME file manager, all with no luck. It seriously took her about 20 minutes, *with my help*, to find the file. It probably didn't help that I use fluxbox myself, and am not familiar with GNOME or its file manager. (Now we're almost there, except that apparently she's got a completely dysfunctional version of the java runtime installed. You click on the widgets in the program's UI, and it doesn't respond.)
Anyway, what kind of indictment is it of Firefox/GNOME's usability when it's easier to install Linux than to find the file you just downloaded?
Of course now I have to slap a steel helmet on my head to withstand the inevitable onslaught of know-it-all slashdotters telling me what an idiot I am, and how I could have easily found the file. Of course that's always how it is with usability. To the person who already knows how to use the software, it seems painfully obvious.
"throw out the old "files and folders" metaphor and leap to something new" - sounds like WinFS?
"They import a picture into F-spot and then have no idea how to attach it to an email." - picasa?
"single-file version control system" - Shadow Copy
"We need a consistent experience" - Windows, OS X
"it would be phenomenal if free software were leading the way"? - I don't see any new ideas here that hasn't been implemented before.
From the headline I thought this was going to be about lost/cross-linked clusters not idiotic users forgetting where something is saved. You can improve the problem in this story by implementing better and more intuitive search features through to overhalling the traditional file-browser window implimented on all OS's that I see.
These changes are independent on the underlying file system which could be anything from fat16 through to reiser
Changing the file system will NOT solve this problem
The problem is that the user couldn't find a file. The solution is a better INTERFACE - this has absolutly nothing to do with the file system!
I agree with you. To make file systems work for average users, what you want is this: full text searching on the contents (plus name, tags and other metadata) and an index that updates as soon as the file is saved. Possibly with some smarts on parsing the query, though Google demonstrates that you don't need that much there. This then needs to be integrated into the standard open dialog, and apps need to use the standard dialog rather than rolling their own (I suppose we ought to have a few open dialogs, e.g. one for "text" files and another for images). The vision then is that users can search for it using what they remember about it: this will work better than anything else since it doesn't assume the operator has a tidy mind.
BTW, the "update the index immediately on saving" part is important; too often I've seen users close a document and then immediately think "ooh, I didn't mean to do that". This means that you can't put off the update until a cron job, and you hence need incremental update of the search database. (It's this that Spotlight on OSX gets wrong too.)
As you say, none of this has anything to do with actual filesystems; you could even do it with FAT12 (though that's a horrible horrible FS!) This is all about applications and how they present the FS to the user. (I'd not present the actual directory structure by default; it doesn't help the untidy minded and the tidy can click/shortcut to reveal the structure.)
Redundant but why not:
If you can't find the file, there's a user problem here.
The hierachrical system is an outdated concept based on traditional methods of meat-space organization.
I'm surprised no one else has mentioned this yet, but a metadata filesystem would save so much time. Tracks would be autotagged with timestamp, size, and filetype if possible, but allowing the user to set their own custom tags would bring out the real benefits.
It would work like Google, where every file is in a single folder. You would an ultra-fast filter window to narrow down to any criteria. Tags could be reused easily (the filesystem would save recently used tags in a dropdown menu on opening or saving), and a thesaurus would help detect near misses if need be. Here's a little more info:
http://www.skytopia.com/project/articles/filesystem.html [skytopia.com]
In any case, for all the hardened folder adherents, there's no reason why they two systems can't coexist.
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Documents Include Test Method for PV Silicon Feedstock
SAN JOSE, Calif. – February 17, 2009 – SEMI has published five new technical standards applicable to the semiconductor, MEMS and photovoltaic (PV) manufacturing industry. The new standards, developed by technical experts from equipment and materials suppliers, device manufacturers and other companies participating in the SEMI International Standards Program, are available for purchase in download and CD-ROM format at www.semi.org. Soon they will be available through a new SEMI standards product called SEMIViews, an online Web 2.0 service enabling access to SEMI International Standards 24/7 from any location. For more information, visit www.semi.org/semiviews.
SEMI Standards are published three times a year. The new standards, part of the March 2009 publication cycle, join more than 780 standards that have been published by SEMI during the past 35 years.
The new standards include a test method for evaluating photovoltaic silicon feedstock. While SEMI has been developing and publishing PV standards since 1981, they were previously included in the materials volume.
"Given the level of current standards development activity in the PV area, SEMI created a new volume focused on photovoltaics," said James Amano, Director, SEMI International Standards. "The new PV standard, along with the four others announced today, will contribute to improved yield and ensure compatibility of equipment and processes worldwide."
The list of new SEMI Standards being released includes:
Guide for Understanding Data Quality
Guide for Process Equipment Adaptor Plates
Specifications for Polished Monocrystalline Gallium Antimonide Wafers
Guide to Evaluating Hermeticity of MEMS Packages
Test Method for Measuring Trace Elements in Photovoltaic-Grade Silicon by High-Mass Resolution Glow Discharge Mass Spectrometry
In addition to the five new standards, a complete rewrite of SEMI S12 was released. This document is an Environmental, Health and Safety Guideline for Manufacturing Equipment Decontamination.
The SEMI Standards Program, established in 1973, covers all aspects of semiconductor process equipment and materials, from wafer manufacturing to test, assembly and packaging, in addition to the manufacture of flat panel displays, photovoltaic systems and micro-electromechanical systems (MEMS). More than 2,100 volunteers worldwide participate in the program, which is made up of 19 global technical committees. Visit www.semi.org/standards for further details about SEMI Standards.
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Guide for Understanding Data Quality
SEMI E151 establishes a set of common terminology and definitions that help specify, communicate, address, and discuss the quality of data produced by semiconductor production equipment.
As the industry moves toward automated and data-driven manufacturing, the data generated by equipment is critical to improving equipment and factory productivity. The quality of reported data is of paramount importance to ensure successful use of software applications that use and/or analyze this data and for automating decision making. Incomplete or inaccurate data will lead to poor decisions which reduce factory productivity and affect the performance of Equipment Engineering Systems.
This new standard impacts both SECS and EDA interfaces to factory systems and is closely tied to the verification of the interface protocols. Subsequent standard work will include measurements for the described data quality attributes.
Guide for Process Equipment Adaptor Plates
Installation of process equipment is an important part of both new and old technologies. As described in SEMI F107, the adapter plate can be utilized for any process equipment that is typically complex, reducing installation time and cost. It enables most of the pre-facilitization to be completed prior to the main process equipment arrival, allowing the equipment to be qualified and brought up to production faster.
For the semiconductor manufacturer, use of the adaptor plate enables most construction to be completed prior to tool dock and potentially reduces tool installation cost by reducing the number of facility POCs. It also provides accurate facility information from the tool supplier.
For the process tool manufacturer, it reduces the time from tool delivery to first wafer, process qualification and final payment by providing a uniform and predictable interface between the tool and the fab. By having facilities complete prior to tool dock allows support personnel to immediately focus on hardware and process tuning
Specifications for Polished Monocrystalline Gallium Antimonide Wafers
The SEMI M75 document defines standard descriptions for the parameters to be specified in the procurement and supply of round wafers of gallium antimonide (GaSb) monocrystalline material.
These specifications cover the information required for the procurement of round, flatted GaSb wafers and the standard dimensional and orientation conventions for the supply of such wafers.
Guide to Evaluating Hermeticity of MEMS Packages
The SEMI MS8 guide addresses the problems of manufacturing and testing of dramatically reduced hermetic package volumes for MEMS. It also addresses the expanded range of hermeticity requirements from quasi-hermetic to ultra-hermetic, rapidly emerging materials such as liquid crystal polymer, and new manufacturing techniques such as wafer-level and chip-scale packaging.
While there are a wide range of MEMS devices, a common need is for packaging that allows movement of the internal device during operation. This is in contrast to the typical integrated circuit that requires only that the device be protected from the environment and that appropriate interconnections be made. In many cases, hermeticity is critical to MEMS device functionality.
MEMS packaging is particularly challenging due to low enclosed cavity volumes and increased sensitivity of enclosed devices to chemical and particulate contamination.
This guide begins to move towards common expectations among manufacturers and users on how to perform initial product acceptance and how to project performance over operating life. Development of such common expectations will be a critical enabler for proliferation of MEMS technology.
Test Method for Measuring Trace Elements in Photovoltaic-Grade Silicon by High-Mass Resolution Glow Discharge Mass Spectrometry
SEMI PV1 standardizes the Glow Discharge Mass Spectrometry (GDMS) test method used to measure impurities in silicon feedstock that can affect the performance of silicon solar cells.
Test methods for silicon feedstock are used for buying and selling of silicon feedstock, and for research and development of processes used to manufacture silicon solar cells which account for about 90 percent of solar cells used today. It is worth noting that the total annual volume of silicon feedstock that goes into silicon solar cells has now surpassed the total annual volume of polysilicon used in the silicon semiconductor industry.
Environmental, Health and Safety Guideline for Manufacturing Equipment Decontamination
The updated SEMI S12 guideline for decontamination of manufacturing equipment adds to the previous SEMI S12-0298 and provides missing details so that all tool decontamination can adhere to standard practices. SEMI S12 provides baseline information for decontamination planning, safety approaches and equipment to use, and decontamination methods for specific manufacturing equipment. It provides a list of decontamination criteria to address hazards of concern for semiconductor equipment as well as suggested documents that may be useful to track the decontamination activities.
Tools that are not decontaminated properly when shipped provide a likely opportunity for some type of mishap, such as spill or fire, which requires a costly cleanup and can lead to possible legal implications.
In many cases when tools are sold or returned from lease, additional costs are incurred due to tool decontamination either not being performed or being performed improperly. With the increase in used tool movement/shipment the need to ship these tools safely continues to be paramount. The updated SEMI S12 guideline provides a concise source of information that can be used by fab operators, tool brokers and OEMs so that the movement of tools can be performed safely and in a cost effective manner.

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During High School, designer Charles Friedman worked as a sail maker building and repairing boat sails on the coast of Maine. When his grandfather's leather wallet fell apart, Charles decided to construct a new one from sailcloth scraps and was pleasantly surprised to find that this water-resistant material is perfectly suited to swiftly navigate delicate possessions through the elements.
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UH Manoa is an integral part of Hawaiʻi's economy. Along with its role in educating citizens and conducting cutting edge research, the state's flagship campus generates significant economic activity for the state of Hawaiʻi.
Last fiscal year the Manoa campus and related entities spent $1.1 billion in the local economy, creating 21,000 jobs. UHM's total direct and indirect economic impact to the state was $1.9 billion, $950 million of which was paid as wages to local residents.
In 2007 UHM received $299 million in state funds and was able to generate an additional $800 million in spending in the local economy. Every dollar the state invests in UH Manoa generates $5.34 in spending here in Hawaiʻi.
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We are going to go 5-11 or 6-10 for the next few seasons, doesn't matter if we have a dominant CB or not.
We have to pay the price for the "get rich quick" 2009-2011 teams where we went crazy on free agent spending and trade-up drafting. We knew that when we were loading for bear back then that some day we'd have to pay the piper.
If he were a QB we wouldn't be having this conversation, perhaps a C or a LT too. But a CB just isn't worth it.


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It's not rocket science.
Hey, what's wrong with Rocket Science lol?If music can influence us even when we are in a near-unconscious state, then what does that tell you about the power of music?People immediately assume that because one falls asleep to music that a) the music must suck or b) the listener is not paying attention to the music played before them. What if it was the musicians intention to put the listener to sleep in order to ultimately send them to a different realm of experience? What the hell is "full-attention" anyways? I don't our minds are so absolute that they can give this so-called "full-attention". What is being asked of listeners (and should be asked) is what have they discerned from the music?


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Driving past the grounds at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, Professor Shlomo Shaked saw a student running scared. Snarling at his heels were three huge dogs. Professor Shaked saw that his student was in dire straits so he stopped his car and threw open the door.
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Does anyone really care about any of the fights still going on? I'm sick of the girl fights that are equivalent to mud wrestling strippers with oddball strips of clothing glued on and Kenichi pretty much got 1 shot so there's no char development there either. This manga kinda feels like a mess atm.
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For me, the last really interesting arc was about Kenichi (supposedly the main character) fighting with Boris. Since then there are just insignificant and boring comedy chapters and ecchi chapters. I'm not against some H in manga, but if I have to read manga with only naked girls and guys and no plot I prefer hentai... Well, there also was Bulu arc, but IMO it was so badly developed I don\t want to remember it.
What happened with this manga? It was interesting and a fun read for a few years...
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Sad to say, unless Kenichi makes a miraculous recovery, there won't be a fight between him and Berserker. And since we rarely saw anything from them, it seems their brawl will resume later. Kinda sad, though that still keeps Berserker's true abilities a mystery. So next time they meet, we'll finally see what the former Second Fist has become under Ogata's tutelage.
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Meh chapter. I could really care less about Tanaka as a character... he's only had maybe 10 chapters in the whole damn manga. Plus, I think he's a moron for going into a battle he has no chance of winning while leaving his wife behind for the sake of revenge.
It's also yet another arc of Kenichi standing/laying around while people much stronger than him get to do all the cool stuff.
I'm sure there will be some parallel drawn between Kenichi and Tanaka again, but honestly, after how long this has dragged on, I don't really care what it is. It just drives home that unless there's a giant time skip, Kenichi will never be fighting these people. They're just too overpowered for someone like him to catch up with another 10 years of training.
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The worst thing is you know it's a fight he'll never win. To be so easily provoked by Kensei, he's still not ready yet. If fighting Kenichi was like a WWE brawler playing with a baby then now it's just a conditioned athlete sparring with a random teenager.
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Well we're definitely not getting an outcome just yet, Ogata seems intent on drawing Tanaka into the world of darkness, Darth Sidious style. "Strike me down with all your hate and your journey to the Dark Side will be complete." Truly sinister, can't wait for the next chapter.
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What's on its way? David Linklater checks out our closest 'local' motorshow in Sydney.
As we walked though the Darling Harbour Exhibition Centre on the morning of the industry preview for the Sydney Motor Show, a colleague said to me: "These Australian shows always feel a bit flat when the local companies don't do anything special."
I had to agree, although I'm not sure that Ford and Holden would agree that they had failed to do anything special. What was missing was what you normally expect at an Aussie show: a huge spotlight on locally produced product and unexpected variations thereof.
Instead, Ford showed off its forthcoming European models - the EcoSport baby crossover and the next-generation Mondeo. There was a concept car, but it was a familiar one: the Evos from last year's Geneva Motor Show.
At Holden, the talk was of the Volt, upgraded infotainment technology for Barina and some new Korean cars: a wagon version of the Cruze and the Malibu mid-sizer.
A short presentation next door at HSV about its 25th anniversary was low key indeed.
It's a sign of the times that they will be next year at Melbourne. Holden managing director Mike Devereaux couldn't resist a reference to next year's all-new VF Commodore in his speech, and Ford chief executive Bob Graziano got Australia media very excited when he confirmed that there will be a revised Falcon of some kind in 2014. No doubt there will be more Falcon news next year to combat rival Commodore's launch. But with sales of both large cars in serious decline, that might be the last time Aussie large cars are a big deal at an Aussie show. At Sydney this year, some brands were conspicuous by their absence. That's not unusual for an Australian show; for the past few years, many distributors have decided the million-dollars-plus required for a decent presence is better spent elsewhere. Among the missing were Ateco Automotive (distributor of Ferrari, Maserati, Lotus, Citroen, Great Wall and Chery), Audi, BMW (and Mini), Chrysler (which also distributes Jeep, Dodge, Alfa Romeo and Fiat), Rolls-Royce, Renault and Volvo.
But the show did go on. Those mainstream makers taking part covered plenty of floorspace and while the mood was businesslike, they had plenty of important new models to display. Small cars came to the fore: Mercedes-Benz had the new A-class, Mitsubishi the new Mirage, Hyundai displayed the i30 wagon and Nissan reintroduced the Pulsar name after a seven-year hiatus for the badge (complete with a 140kW SSS version) and Skoda revealed the all-new Rapid.
Those with a taste for exotic fare were not disappointed. Subaru showed off a range of modification packages for the BRZ created by Possum Bourne Motorsport, while Jaguar and Land Rover brought along the F-Type roadster and all-new Range Rover - complete with design bosses Ian Callum (Jaguar) and Gerry McGovern (Land Rover). Crossovers, too. Sydney marked the world debut for the facelifted Mazda CX-9 (although it was overshadowed by the Mazda6) and Mitsubishi introduced the new Outlander.
When we talk about Australian carmakers it's easy to forget that there's a third that makes far more cars in the lucky country than its two rivals and outstrips both for exports. That'd be Toyota, then. While there was not a wild concept version of the Aussie-built Camry, Toyota Australia did unveil the new Corolla with quite some fanfare. In fact, Toyota was one of the few brands to go for an old-school singing-and-dancing launch for Corolla, with a flashmob seemingly infiltrating the show stand and dancing to popular music through the decades, as each an example of each generation of Corolla through the years was unveiled, leading up to the latest 11th-generation. It was all a bit cheesy but you had to admire the Japanese/Australian maker for remembering that motor shows are supposed to fun as well as informative.


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Holiday Baked Alaska Recipe
With a gingersnap crust, minty ice cream filling and airy meringue topping, this treat is deliciously different. Chill for a day and bake just before serving.—Carole Halling, Batavia, Illinois
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- 1-1/2 cups crushed gingersnap cookies (about 25 cookies)
- 1/4 cup butter, melted
- 3 tablespoons brown sugar
- 1/2 teaspoon ground cinnamon
- 6 cups peppermint ice cream, softened
- 2 tablespoons peppermint schnapps liqueur
- 5 egg whites
- 2/3 cup sugar
- 1/2 teaspoon cream of tartar
- In a small bowl, combine the cookie crumbs, butter, brown sugar and cinnamon; set aside 1/3 cup. Press remaining crumb mixture onto the bottom and up the sides of a greased 9-in. deep-dish pie plate. Refrigerate for 30 minutes.
- Meanwhile, combine ice cream, schnapps and reserved crumbs; spoon into crust. Freeze overnight or until firm.
- In a large heavy saucepan, combine the egg whites, sugar and cream of tartar. With a hand mixer, beat on low speed for 1 minute. Continue beating over low heat until egg mixture reaches 160°, about 10 minutes. Transfer to a bowl; beat until stiff glossy peaks form and sugar is dissolved. Spread meringue over ice cream, sealing to edges of crust.
- Bake at 400° for 2-5 minutes or until meringue is lightly browned. Serve immediately. Yield: 8 servings.
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This section introduces you to the heart of the company, focusing on the men that represent Ferrari in the world and the on each department of the Factory. Born in 1947, Ferrari has always produced vehicles at its current site and has maintained its directions. It has progressively widened its range using visionary planning both on a design level and on the quality of work produced.
From our Formula 1 successes to fast and furious GT competitions via the exclusive Ferrari Driver Academy. The air at Maranello zings with the exhilaration of competition and the thrill of the track.
From a glorious past showcased at the Ferrari Museum to the bright future exemplified by the Ferrari World Abu Dhabi theme park, more than 50 Ferrari Stores worldwide and an extensive licensing programme, the Ferrari brand remains a record-breaker both in Italy and worldwide.
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Light and airy, yeast-raised doughnuts were a favorite growing up, especially glazed ones with sprinkles. As an adult I became more partial to cake doughnuts. The sturdier construction ensured it stood up well to a few dunks in a mug of coffee. The problem, though, is those calories were much easier to burn as a kid than as a busy mother of two—chasing after a toddler is workout of another kind.
Recently I found an easy solution to marry all my cravings into one perfect doughnut—light enough to defy gravity, but enough heft to stand up to a dunk or two, and with a lot less calories than traditional fried doughnuts. Baked doughnuts are not only a healthier alternative to satisfy cravings, they're also ready in less than 10 minutes—just the amount of time you need to get a hot cup of coffee brewing.
Lemon Buttermilk Doughnuts
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1 cup (4.65 ounces/132 grams) whole wheat pastry flour
1/4 cup (2 ounces/56 grams) natural cane sugar
1 teaspoon (5 grams) baking powder
1/8 teaspoon (1 gram) baking soda
¼ teaspoon (2 grams) sea salt
Freshly squeezed juice and grated zest of 1 lemon
Scant 1/2 cup (110 ml) buttermilk, well-shaken
1 large (50 grams) egg
1 tablespoon (14 grams) butter, melted
Confectioners' sugar, optional
- Preheat oven to 425ºF. Coat one 6-doughnut nonstick baking pan with cooking spray; set aside.
- In a medium bowl, whisk together the flour, sugar, baking powder, baking soda, salt and lemon zest.
- In a measuring cup, use a fork to beat the lemon juice, buttermilk, egg and melted butter until well blended. Pour over the flour mixture and use a wooden spoon to stir together until just combined. Evenly spoon into the prepared doughnut pan and bake for 8 to 9 minutes, until doughnuts are golden and spring back when touched.
- Remove from oven and let cool for 2 minutes in the pan, then transfer to a wire rack to cool completely. Use a small strainer to sift Confectioners' sugar over tops before serving, if desired.


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Crosby, Stills, & Nash join forces for their first live performance video in over 2 decades! Filmed during their 2012 tour, CSN 2012 includes many of the trio's classic hits, some new and unreleased songs, and a rare performance of "Suite: Judy Blue Eyes." The disc also includes 'A Conversation with David, Stephen and Graham,' plus interviews with their band and crew. A must-have for any CSN fan.


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Season 6 of the 1960s New York-set drama series "Mad Men" is to kick off with a 2-hour episode April 7, AMC announced Wednesday.
"To be able to continue exploring the stories of these characters for a sixth season is an amazing opportunity," Weiner said in a statement. "We love mining this world and look forward to bringing the audience stories that we hope will continue to both surprise and entertain them."
"It is a calling card and a point of great pride for AMC to be the network home of 'Mad Men,' led by Matthew Weiner and his brilliant team," said Charlie Collier, AMC's president and general manager. "We can't wait to share Season 6 with the world and what better way to start than with a special 2-hour premiere?"
"The success of 'Mad Men' is built on the exceptional artistry and imagination of Matthew Weiner, the cast, and the entire writing and producing team," said Kevin Beggs, president of Lionsgate Television Group, the show's producers. "They continually strive to raise the bar and we look forward to bringing viewers another great season."


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This documentary relives the sights and sounds from the once-in-a lifetime Gathering of Mustangs & Legends Air Show. Over 150,000 spectators from around the globe descended on Rickenbacker International Airport in Columbus, Ohio for this historic event that features a tribute to the P-51 Mustang, along with other vintage aircraft such as the T-6 Texan, P-47, and P-38. You'll see stunning footage, an array of aerobatic and military aircraft performances, and behind the scenes footage. Hear from the men who flew and maintained the historic P-51 Mustang that reigned in the skies of Europe during WWII as they share their memories, combat stories and love affair with this marvelous flying machine.
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With movie soundtrack hits "(Everything I Do) I Do It for You" from Robin Hood, "All for Love" a trio with Sting and Rod Stewart, from The Three Musketeers, and "Have You Ever Really Loved A Woman?" from Don Juan DeMarco among others, he's appropriately been called the Kenny Loggins of the 90's. Bryan Adams has a tremendous career built off of amazing songwriting and legendary concert performances. With hits like "Summer of 69," "Cuts Like a Knife" and "Heaven", Bryan Adams is sure to provide a night of sing-a-longs for all his fans. Come see one of Canada and pop music's most celebrated artists playing select dates across the continent this winter with Bryan Adams tickets from GoTickets.com!
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Worked as a medical technologist
Cinda Belle Davis has made her final journey home to be with our Lord doing what she loved to do: travel, cooking and crafts. Cinda's journey began on October the 8th, 1949 in Perry, Iowa to Merlin and Nellie Davis. After graduating from Perry High School, Cinda's travels had taken her to her life's work as a medical technologist and then into the corporate world with Cerner of Kansas City.
On March 8, 1988 Cinda was united in marriage with Kent Mathis and their journey lasted for 26 years. During their retirement, Cinda and Kent traveled throughout the nation attending cooking schools and craft fairs. The last 6 years, Cinda and Kent made south Texas their home. On Feb. 17th, Cinda's travels on this earth ended. She fought the good fight and has finished the race.
Funeral services were held Feb 21st at the Missouri Veterans Cemetery at Fort Leonard Wood Missouri. Mr. Kurt Harding conducted the chapel service and Rev. Greg Mathis conducted the graveside service.


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The state legislature ended their second "Funnel Week" Thursday and both Senator Sandy Greiner and Representative Jarad Klein say it was not as productive as the first funnel week. Funnel Week is a special week in the legislative session for establishing a cut off date of when bills have to come out of committees. This deadline is created for the purpose of trimming down bills to be considered by the legislature. During this week, bills had to be approved by committees for the bill to remain eligible for further consideration.
Senator Sandy Greiner says the week was busy the first portion of the week because they wanted to have everything done by Thursday. She says many things did end up not making it out of committee and will show up later in the form of an amendment.
Representative Jarad Klein says this week was more disappointing than the last one because many bills were not discussed. He says he is keeping a positive outlook on the process.
Both Senator Greiner and Representative Klein say the busiest day of the week was Thursday when the proposed legislative districts were presented.


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November 27, 1952 - July 9, 2013
Cuddebackville, NY
Mr. Louis "Louie" R. Hull of Cuddebackville, and a lifetime resident of the area, died July 9, 2013, at Orange Regional Medical Center, Middletown, NY. He was 60. He was born November 27, 1952 in Port Jervis, NY, the son of the late Daniel T. and the late Ada Storms Hull.
Louis and Marta King were together for 26 years, married on July 15, 1989 in the Town of Deerpark.
Louie was a talented Woodworker, making Children's Toys, Bird Houses, Rocking Horses and Wishing Wells, to be seen in people's yards throughout the area.
Louis was a member of the Cuddebackville Reformed Church.
Surviving are his wife, Marta Hull, at home; daughter, Tammy A. Weed and her husband, Donald; son, Thomas R. Hull and his fiancee, Mary Ann DeGroat; daughter, Samantha Gonzalez and her fiance, John Hook; stepson, Patrick Loria and his wife, April; stepson, Robert Loria; 17 grandchildren; also several nieces and nephews. He was predeceased by his brother, Daniel B. Hull.
A Visitation will be held Friday, July 12th, from 4 to 6 p.m. at Gray-Parker Funeral Home, Inc., 100 E. Main St., Port Jervis, NY, followed by a Funeral Service at 6 p.m. at the funeral home.
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In about a month, you can get a rent-a-bat for considerably less than Chapman. And we'll have an in-house rent-a-bat coming off the DL.
In about a month, you can get a rent-a-bat for considerably less than Chapman. And we'll have an in-house rent-a-bat coming off the DL.
The widow is gathering nettles for her children's dinner; a perfumed seigneur, delicately lounging in the Oeil de Boeuf, hath an alchemy whereby he will extract the third nettle and call it rent. ~ Carlyle
We have a rock solid rotation NOW....but we don't know how things will look moving forward. Homer, Bronson...Latos extention, etc. Chapman plays a big role in that. And moving him now out of the pen leaves us short there as well (although I don't consider that as big of an issue...we could back-fill).Completely agree with emphasis on pitching. It's the difference between what we were five years ago (and for the greater part of two lost decades) and what we are now. Great pitching gives you a chance every time you go out there.
I'm not advocating we gut the team's pitching and go back to Bowdenball. You have a rock-solid rotation with or without Chapman. That's not changing. But after watching what happened to them the last two trips to the playoffs and seeing a lot of the same tendencies pop up through the first 35 games this season, I can't see how the offense isn't a valid concern. (Note concern, not panic.)
They have a great commodity in Chapman. Could he bring better value to the club as part of a deal?
Simply put, he's an elite arm that's signed for a VERY reasonable price...that's a commodity that we can't let go of unless we absolutely have to.
And as for the offense being a concern....people can twist the numbers however they want, the bottom line is we've scored a bunch of runs compared to the rest of the league. When they come, how they come, who produces them....I don't care as long as they DO come. Yes, we've had some high scoring games. We've also had some low scoring games. I prefer to split the difference and assume we're somewhere in the middle. So I'll stick with the average runs scored. Offense is fine, simply slumping some.
That's the "pitching that keeps you in games." Chapman is not keeping you in games. In fact, he's seldom IN games. That is the spirit of my question. Is there greater value in considering him as part of a deal?
Rounding third and heading for home...
I apologize for being snarky Bluegrass....my ire was less at your post than a fed up reaction at the daily trade proposals for every good pitcher, including starters. The only pitcher who hasn't been bandied in trade talk to save our offense is Latos. The Bruce is worthless...offense is horrible...Frazier or Mes or "insert player name' sucks and needs to be replaced and general panichas me at a point I should just take a vacation from RZ until I am not so fed up. Again...sorry it was not personal and unlike my normal tenor when posting. Jake
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Put another way, the Reds have scored 38% of their runs in 15% of their games.
As a comparison, the NL has scored 43% (the closest percentage I could find to 38%) of it's runs in 20% of it's games.
The Reds have scored 2 or fewer runs in 38% of their games.
The NL has scored 2 or fewer runs in 35% of their games.
The Reds have scored 5 or more runs in 50% of their games.
The NL has scored 5 or more runs in 39% of their games.
The Reds have scored 1 run in 24% (8) of their games. Then again, they score 4 runs or higher 56% of the time while the league only does that 51% of the time.
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i think they should just use Chapman in high leverage situations earlier in the ball game instead of waiting till its too late to use him or using him with 3 runs leads in the 9th.
Chapman is much more valuable with a one run lead in the 7th when the starter lets the 1st 2 guys on base than he is in the 9th when the reds are down b/c he wasnt utilized properly in the 7th.
I've waited my entire life to see arms like this pitch for the Reds. Now we're talking about trading them. No thanks. Pitching is the name of the game. When you have an arm like Chapman, you don't give him up.
NL Central team stats:
Batting average in MLB:
10. Cardinals .258
19. Reds .245
23. Pirates .241
HR's in MLB:
15. Pirates 35
17. Reds 33
24. Cardinals 28
Runs in MLB:
6. Reds 158
7. Cardinals 156
20. Pirates 130
Pitching e.r.a. in MLB:
1. Cardinals 3.07
10. Reds 3.63
11. Pirates 3.71
Starting pitching e.r.a. in MLB:
1. Cardinals 2.29
2. Detroit 3.04 (for example)
7. Reds 3.46
18. Pirates 4.32
Relief pitching e.r.a. in MLB:
9. Pirates 2.92
16. Reds 3.97
29. Cardinals 5.14
"I can't take this homerism anymore." - 10xWSChamps, August 11, 2010. A Cardinals fan having a problem with all the homerism on Redszone. Classic.
"Man do I miss the days where were didn't need a calculator and an encyclopedia of baseball metrics to enjoy a baseball game ... - MikeS21" - 8/2/12 game thread
But thanks for letting me know how math works, that was really informative for me.
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Rounding third and heading for home...
CySeymour (05-08-2013),Old school 1983 (05-09-2013),Vottomatic (05-09-2013)
But...is Chapman to the rotation in the longer term even a viable option? Or is he just going to encounter the same thing we did this year? We know Dusty will want him in the bullpen as always. We'll have an innings cap on him. We know he (apparently?) prefers the bullpen.
I feel that this year was make or break for making Chapman a starter in Cincy.
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Manchester United and Manchester City transfer target Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang has opened the door for a summer transfer war after revealing he wants to leave St Etienne at the end of the season.
The Gabon international claimed at the weekend that both Sir Alex Ferguson and Roberto Mancini wanted to add his services during the January transfer window.
"There have been contacts with the Manchester clubs. I'm being followed in Italy too, especially by Fiorentina, and another big club," the £10million-rated 'King of Bling' was quoted as saying by The Sun at the weekend, having gained the nickname after wearing crystal-covered boots last month.
However, the 23-year-old insists he's not interested in leaving Ligue 1 during the January transfer window, and wants to finish the season in France before moving to another destination.
"I say it again, I am not thinking about leaving. I have a lot of interest, but the best solution is to stay at St Etienne and leave in the summer," Aubameyang has now told newspaper L'Equipe.
"It is very clear in my mind that these will be my last six months with St Etienne. Then, I don't know. It is nice to already have offers from England and I hope to leave for a club that will allow me to keep improving. There could be a surprise, but I am not planning on staying in France."
Manchester United aren't short of options in attack, with Ferguson's forward options comprising of Robin Van Persie, Wayne Rooney, Javier Hernandez and Danny Welbeck.
Indeed, the Red Devils are top scorers in the Premier League by some distance this term, and may look to strengthen in other positions as a first priority at Old Trafford.
Manchester City are another team who don't lack options up-front, with Carlos Tevez, Sergio Aguero, Edin Dzeko and Mario Balotelli all vying for chances at the Etihad Stadium.
And, despite a training ground bust-up post-Christmas, Mancini insists compatriot Balotelli won't be leaving the Citizens, irrespective of speculation to the contrary.
Aubemayang's comments mean both clubs are set to miss out on the player this month, if they did want to add him to their ranks, but the door has been left open for a summer transfer war between the two Premier League title chasers.
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China is buying into business-aircraft production, but buyers are favoring imports
Cessna and Embraer business jets should soon begin rolling out of Chinese factories, but how many of them will Chinese buyers want? While China's business aviation market has grown powerfully since 2008, its preference for large aircraft—larger than Cessna's—shows no signs of changing. Recent sales trends seem stronger for Embraer, which until last year had almost none of its aircraft in China.
And in business aviation, for once, buyer preference is an almost completely dominant factor in Chinese aircraft demand. China's industry and its Western partners are almost always assured of local orders for commercial airliners assembled or partly built in China; helicopter manufacturing, too, can enjoy the support of government buyers. But neither the government nor its companies are buying many business jets, and the state is not directing the choices of private buyers, just as it would not tell them which luxury cars to choose. And they are mainly choosing Gulfstreams.
Cessna has been working with Avic on projects to build at least three of its aircraft types in China: the mid-size Citation Sovereign with Avic's fighter subsidiary AAT in Chengdu; and the super-light Citation XLS+ in Zhuhai and Caravan utility turboprop in Shijiazhuang, both in factories of Caiga, Avic's general-aviation business. The Citation Latitude, not due to fly until 2014, has been a later prospect for production in Chengdu.
The first Chinese Caravan was due to be completed by the third quarter, but by July, this had slipped to year-end. At that time, XLS+ deliveries from the Zhuhai plant were due to begin in 2014, having slipped from this year. For the Sovereign, Cessna was still in talks with AAT and the Chengdu city government in April (AW&ST April 22, p. 24). Production volume targets have not been disclosed.
Aircraft of XLS+ and Sovereign size are not the focus of demand in China, however, and there are few signs of that changing. "Over the last 3-4 years, [mainland China] market shares of Gulfstream and Bombardier have not changed significantly year to year," says Hong Kong business aviation consultancy Asia Sky Group, reviewing figures up to 2012. "What is happening, given the current market trends, is [Dassault] Falcon and Embraer are taking market share from Cessna and Hawker [Beechcraft]."
Embraer is setting up an assembly line for business jets in partnership with Avic at Harbin. A factory that formerly assembled ERJ 145 regional jets has been reequipped at apparently little expense for the closely related Legacy 650 super mid-size jet. The latter is closer to current Chinese tastes for large aircraft. The first 650 from Harbin is due for delivery by year-end, as planned, says Embraer.
The Brazilian manufacturer had a negligible business aviation presence in the Chinese market until last year. By the end of 2012, the business-jet fleet in China, including Hong Kong, had eight Embraer aircraft, up from just one a year earlier, and compared with a Cessna fleet unchanged at 33 aircraft. Notably, five of the Embraers that arrived last year were Legacy 650s and one was an almost-identical Legacy 600. Moreover, Embraer booked orders for 28 aircraft in 2012, suggesting its fleet share will rise.
In deliveries, as always, the real action last year was at the heavy-metal end of the market, with fleets growing by 36 aircraft for Gulfstream, 25 for Bombardier and nine for Dassault. Airbus and Boeing corporate airliners dominated the other 26 net additions.
China's links with Western general- and business-aviation manufacturers trace back to the 1970s, when Beijing purchased French helicopters for its military. This led to local manufacture of the Aerospatiale SA321 Super Frelon as the Changhe Z-8 and the AS365 Dauphin as the Harbin Z-9. Civil versions of these—the 14.5-ton AC313 and 4.5-ton AC312, respectively—now form the core of Avicopter's commercial lineup. This early link lead to China taking a 24% share in developing Eurocopter's 1.5-ton EC120, built by Harbin since 2004 as the HC-120.
In 2005, agreement was reached to co-develop the Eurocopter EC175 and Avicopter AC532 (Z-15) medium helicopters, with Harbin supplying airframes for the 8.3-ton EC175. Other civil helicopter deals followed, including AgustaWestland in 2005 establishing a joint venture with Changhe to assemble the 3.2-ton AW109 as the CA109. In 2007, Sikorsky signed a deal with Changhe to supply S-76C airframes, which has now transitioned to the supply of S-76D airframes beginning in 2016. In each case, the motivation was access to China's market and low labor costs.
Helicopters also led to China's first acquisitions. In 2007, industrialist Cheng Shenzong struck a deal to build the Brantly B2B light helicopter in Qingdao, and later develop the obsolete design into China's largest unmanned helicopter, the V750, built in Weifang and first flown in 2011. In 2012, in another U.S. acquisition, Enstrom Helicopters was purchased by Chongqing Helicopter Investment.
What has become a major push by Chinese industry into the general-aviation (GA) market began when, in 2007, Cessna announced that, to reduce costs, its Skycatcher light-sport aircraft would be produced by Avic company Shenyang Aircraft. The decision sparked controversy, which did not subside when, in 2010, Caiga agreed to buy bankrupt U.S kitplane maker Epic Aircraft. The bankruptcy judge blocked plans to relocate production to China.
Ulimately, Epic was sold to a Russian company, but Caiga acquired Epic's designs for a family of single-turboprop, single- and twinjet aircraft, which now form the basis for its Primus and Starlight product lines. China's first indigenously developed business aircraft, the all-composite Primus 150, is powered by an 850-shp. General Electric H85 turboprop. First flight is planned for this month; certification is eyed for 2015.
China's buying spree did not end there. At the end of 2010, Avic company Technify Motor acquired U.S. piston aero-engine manufacturer Continental Motors from Teledyne. This July, Technify acquired insolvent German aero-diesel manufacturer Thielert Engines, merging it with Continental and positioning itself to supply both the traditional gasoline-fueled GA market and growing international demand for light aircraft burning easier-to-find jet fuel.
In its biggest deal yet, in 2011, Caiga acquired U.S. light aircraft manufacturer Cirrus. The Chinese owners have invested a lot, setting up assembly of SR20/22 piston singles in Zhuhai and, in the U.S., accelerating development of the Vision SF50 single-turbofan personal jet, which is expected to be certified in 2015. Cirrus is to produce airframes for Icon Aircraft's A5 light-sport amphibian and, in June, Icon announced a "privately held strategic investor in China . . . well established in the Chinese general aviation market" had taken a stake in the company.
Chinese industrialist Cheng, meanwhile, did not stop at Brantly, and in 2009 acquired Superior Air, a then-bankrupt U.S. manufacturer of aftermarket parts for Continental and Lycoming piston engines. His company, Beijing Superior Aviation Technology, then initiated China's boldest move yet, teaming with the Beijing municipal government in a bid to buy U.S. business and GA aircraft manufacturer Hawker Beechcraft out of bankruptcy. Hawker Beechcraft called off the negotiations in October 2012.
Although China's biggest move to date to secure a share of the global business-aircraft market ended in failure, Western manufacturers have continued to pursue deals to build their products there. The latest is Switzerland's Pilatus Aircraft, which is to assemble its PC-6 utility and PC-12 business turboprops in Chongqing. But Cessna and Embraer are the first to persuade China to manufacture business jets, a sector of the market that is expected to grow most dramatically.
The volume of business flying in mainland China, measured by hours in the air, rose 61% in 2010-12, according to Civil Aviation Administration of China (CAAC ) figures which, by covering two years of operations, flatten out bumps to give a better indication of the trend. The number of movements rose 59%.
The CAAC seems fully supportive of business aviation. Shi Boli, director general of the regulator's transportation section, told an industry meeting earlier this year that, while the potential for further growth was obvious, "we very clearly recognize that the industry is restricted by limited resources. Infrastructure is unsuitable, support services are lagging, specialist personnel are in short supply and so on."
After consultations with industry, the CAAC says it has come up with an 18-point plan to improve things. Many of the points have been only vaguely described—for example, "strengthening regulation and control, including the system for allowing entry into the market." But others are a little more concrete, such as "perfecting the national airport plan," presumably in favor of business aviation, "and pushing forward infrastructure construction."
Airports at Beijing, Shanghai, Shenyang and Shenzhen have or are building business-aviation terminals. Zhuhai has taken first steps for a fixed-base operation (FBO) trial. Some airports have set up special arrival and departure channels for business-aviation passengers, and some, while having no dedicated terminal, are at least preparing facilities to support business aircraft.
Tap the icon in the digital edition of AW&ST to read our skeptical assessment of the Chinese business aviation market in 2007, or go to AviationWeek.com/chinabizav
|AgustaWestland – Joint venture established with Changhe Aircraft Industry in 2005 to assemble AW109 light-twin helicopter in Jingdezhen (as CA109).
|Brantly – Acquired by Qingdao Haili Helicopters in 2007; B2B light-piston helicopter production moved to Qingdao; unmanned version developed.
|Caiga – Designs acquired in 2010 from bankrupt U.S. kitplane-maker Epic Air by Avic's China Aviation Industry General Aircraft (Caiga) form the basis of Primus turboprop and Starlight turbofan business aircraft.
|Cessna – Skycatcher light-sport aircraft is built by AAT in Shenyang; Caravan is to be assembled in Shijiazhuang under joint venture with Caiga; negotiating with Caiga to assemble Citation XLS+ business jet in Zhuhai, and with ATT to assemble Citation Sovereign in Chengdu.
|Cirrus – U.S. light-aircraft manufacturer was acquired by Caiga in 2011; Caiga South China Aircraft Industry assembles Cirrus SR20/22 in Zhuhai.
|Continental/Theilert – Continental Motors was acquired from Teledyne by Avic (Technify Motors) in 2010; Theilert Aircraft Engines was acquired by Avic in July 2013 and merged with Continental.
|Diamond – Shandong Bin Ao Aircraft Industries assembles DA40 TDI light-twin for China and selected Asian countries.
|Embraer – Harbin Embraer Aircraft Industry, a joint venture with Avic, has begun assembly of Legacy 650 business jets in Harbin; first delivery end of 2013.
|Enstrom – U.S. light-helicopter manufacturer was acquired by Chongqing Helicopter Investment in December 2012.
|Eurocopter – Co-development of the Eurocopter EC175 and Avicopter AC532 medium-twin helicopters was launched in 2005. Harbin Aircraft Industry supplies airframes for the EC175 and builds light EC120 as HC-120.
|Flight Design – German light aircraft (CTLS and C4) to be produced in China beginning in 2015 under a deal with Taiwan's Aero Jones.
|Icon – U.S. light-sport seaplane manufacturer's June 2013 equity financing round was led by a Chinese strategic private investor; airframes are to be supplied by Caiga-owned Cirrus.
|Pilatus – Agreement signed with Beijing Tian Xing Yu Science in July 2013 to assemble PC-6 utility and PC-12 business turboprops in Chongqing.
|Sikorsky – Changhe Aircraft supplied S-76C helicopter airframes under agreement signed in 2007; new deal signed in September 2013 to supply S-76D airframes.
|Superior Air Parts – U.S. piston-aeroengine aftermarket parts manufacturer was sold to Superior Aviation Beijing in 2008, and combined with Brantly in 2011.
|Yuneec – Jiangsu-based Yuneec International manufacturers of the e430 electric-powered light-sport aircraft marketed by U.S.-based subsidiary GreenWing International.


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Coderdojo Inspires Coding In Kids As Young As Seven 40
An anonymous reader writes "With kids growing up in an increasingly digital world, it's alarming that many of them have no idea how the devices that power their lives actually work. So three cheers for Coderdojo — a worldwide group of volunteers teaching programming and web design to children aged seven and up. From the article: 'Coderdojo's format is open and inclusive. Participants can use the operating system and programming tools of their choice. There is no set curriculum and the only rule is: "Above all: be cool." More rigid approaches, he suggests, can often stifle learners' enthusiasm: "A lot of coding tuition aimed at young people tends to revolve around games," he said. "But that can disengage some young people. Many of them, particularly girls, just aren't interested in gaming. "On the other hand, doing something like developing a web site shows them that they can do things they might not have realized they were able to and combines artistic and design skills with an understanding of why things are built in a certain way."'"


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Indeed I am. "Why"??? - you ask. Well I will give you 3 guesses. Just a hint - it has something to do with the statement I made where I said I was done being a pet-mom. And just in case you haven't figured it out yet - I am happy to say I have adopted a new little fur kid. :)
I sure wasn't looking for one and had absolutely no intention of getting another dog. I accidentally stumbled across this one while I was looking for the address of a cat rescue in town, so I could take the smaller pet beds over there. I'll elaborate later, but Myndi and Sparky gave me the okay (seriously) and I'll elaborate on that one later too.
But I just had to make a brief appearance here and tell you all of my failure. :D It's another Pom, about the same size as Myndi, a little boy who will be 4 years old on Oct 25th, neutered and microchipped, and a real little sweetheart of a love bug and loves giving kisses. :love: His coloring is brindle - so pretty and I had never seen a brindle Pom before, and his name is Wolfy. That's always been his name and I don't want to confuse him with a new one, so I'll keep it. He's not the least bit strange or standoffish, and he's following me around with my every move! He's a real bright and happy and spunky little guy and he loves to do zoomies! I picked him up this morning and already he's settling in like he's always lived here.
Anyway - I was just busting and I couldn't keep silent on this one. I'll get some pictures sometime over the weekend and get them posted, so that you can all see the newest Pom member of the PT Community.