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It's a local user privilege escalation exploit. Every OS has those. What it means is that if someone can get in to your computer as a local user (or gain control of a process that runs as a local user, such as the web server process), then they can gain root access to your system.
However, the first step - getting in as a local user - is really really hard on most servers. Unless you're handing out local user accounts to people left and right (like a university cluster or something), it's going to be nearly impossible for Joe Random Hacker to get control of a local user account.
You know how it's generally held to be true that if you have physical access to a running machine, the only thing stopping you from getting root access to it is time? Well, the next step up (in terms of difficulty) is not having physical access, but having access to a local user account.
The exploits that work on Windows, on the other hand, are ones where someone who doesn't even have local user privileges - who's just looking at your website - can get root access, like the one Slashdot posted here [slashdot.org].
Uhh.. dude. Seriously. Did you even think about this?
Your web browser runs as a local user. If there is a flaw in your web browser (and all of them have had plenty), then they can use that flaw, just by looking at a web site, to gain root access to your machine using this vulnerability.
So yes. This *IS* the kind of flaw that just looking at someones web site can exploit, if they can also attack your web browser (which is typically pretty easy to do as most people aren't always up to date).
As a home user, I'm always a bit aghast when people determine that preventing access to root is my biggest priority.
If they've got access to my browser, this means that they now have access to all of my documentation, and have the ability to run programs (e.g. through my
I mean, they've got my data, they've got the power to run applications and they've got full internet access. I'm personally not that worried about root access - if they break through the browser barrier I'm basically f*cked already.
(yes, yes, I know, SELinux and such could protect me if I configure them correctly. Not even I can easily do that however, and nobody that I know would go that far).
What is annoying me about these issues is that they are described so poorly that I'm not certain if I have a problem. I run 64-bit Linux but no 32-bit code and there are no local users other than for the services I'm running (http and ssh). So do I need to take the time to do something or can I wait for a normal update?
What is annoying me about these issues is that they are described so poorly that I'm not certain if I have a problem. I run 64-bit Linux but no 32-bit code and there are no local users other than for the services I'm running (http and ssh). So do I need to take the time to do something or can I wait for a normal update?
Short answer - it depends on whether your kernel has the vulnerability. Seriously, Slashdot is the worst place to find out more into about vulnerabilities. At least it did give the CVE which you can use to get more details and determine if you're affected.
Function names like wtfyourunhere_heee, p4tch_sel1nux_codztegfaddczda and datatypes like __yyrhdgdtfs66ytgetrfd as well as hex-code doesn't make the code look less suspicious.
I can't be sure that the rootkit (or a different one) is not in there.
You are a dummy for downloading from a http website without a checksum. No thank you.
You are a dummy for downloading from a http website without a checksum. No thank you.
What exactly is the point of supplying a checksum by the same route/download method as the file in question? Surely if the file can be modified, so can the checksum. Maybe it would be useful if people got the checksum and verified it was the same checksum everyone else saw, then verified the file with it, but that just doesn't happen.
why the fuck do they need to
#define __yyrhdgdtfs66ytgetrfd unsigned long long
apart making the code horrible? Seems like an entry for IOCCC. I don't trust this check at all! Wtf is doing this?
*((__yyrhdgdtfs66ytgetrfd *)(r1ngrrrrrrr + R0TDGFSRSLLSJ_SHSYSTGD)) = _m_cred[2];
Regardless, it fails on my pc at
_m_cpu_off = (__dgdhdytrg55)get_sym(PER_C_DHHDYDGTREM7765);
A little search shows they just took the public exploit and mangled names plus other small changes. Are they joking?
Why does the summary and articles read like a paid advertisement for Ksplice?
Because the article is alarmist bs? You are probably NOT being rooted even as you read this.
***Ding ding ding***
We have a winner -- Don Pardot, tell Ms. Hudson what she's won!
Because sensationalism sells and best of all, people on the other side of the fence (eg, MS) can then link to the article as way of providing "proof" of how insecure Linux really is. Facts be damned, let's just spray some more fear-mongering around and scare the dillys out of every person. It's just not a
Why does the summary and articles read like a paid advertisement for Ksplice?
Probably because the Ksplice guys offer a solution to a problem for admins who have standalone servers that can't be rebooted and nobody else does.
I don't understand the Ksplice hate here - they're filling a niche. I'd advise my clients (should I slashvertize too?) to instead go with a redundant clustered solution, preferably with automatic failover and/or live migrations of vm's so reboots don't hurt. But, that's more expensive
Yes, there's an available rights escalation vulnerability in recent Linux Kernels that's best patched by updating your system with the latest updates. The breathless nature of the fine summary betrays an eagerness to get Linux admins to click the links before they've done so. I'd rather not. Social engineering is such a powerful exploit mechanism after all.
The Windows geeks obviously will want to paint this as a native Linux vulnerability that they don't have - and it is marginally true. That's fine - but it's an escalation bug, not a remote root, and they've several dozen remote root bugs to close before they point fingers.
The Windows geeks
Care to point them out?
The Windows geeks
Care to point them out?
Just subscribe to the SANS newsletters - they point them out every week (for all OSes, not just Windows).
Point out a current remote root exploit in Windows. To the best of my knowledge, there are none. Which means that the original poster is just fluffing his feathers trying to divert attention from the Linux issue.
While this isn't something that means Linux is majorly insecure or anything, it is a Linux issue. However fanboys don't like that, they can't just say "Yep, there's a problem." Instead they want to try and deflect it, make it about something else. So he deflects the issue by claiming there are some
Just a quick google search: http://secunia.com/advisories/41122 [secunia.com]
There are quite a few listed on secunia, it's a really good site. Currently lists 10 unpacked vulnerabilities in Windows Vista, none for Linux surprisingly, it must be a conspiracy against Microsoft and those damn Linux fanboys.
>Point out a current remote root exploit in Windows. To the best of my knowledge, there are none.
You're kidding right? They're enumerated the second Tuesday of each month. We even have a word for it now: "Patch Tuesday". It's an IT anti-holiday. How do you not know about this?
Most local exploits are outright dismissed by Microsoft as "not a bug".
For a big example, although one that Microsoft later partially mitigated due to the outcry, look for the "shatter attack".
Windows may not be as defenseless to remote attacks as it used to be, but locally, it'd be a lunacy to claim it has even semi-working security. Allowing programs root access left and right doesn't help, either.
>Care to point them out?
I don't want them fixed. I am aware of several dozen remote root exploits for Windows and am sure there are hundreds I'm not aware of. But I don't have to prove it. I can say it, and Microsoft could sue me. Between the time they sued me and the time we got to court they would have to span two years of updates, in which they would have to admit several dozen remote root exploits and concede their case. They are there, and if you trawl the darker corners of the Internet yo
Y'know, sometimes there are posts that are poignant, interesting, on-topic, and yet are modded down as a troll for no better reason than people who have mod points are more interested in squelching challenging ideas. That's fine, and slashdot has a mechanism to deal with that, called Karma.
Because I have good
This is a local exploit so I'm not horribly concerned and here is why.
You should always treat your systems as if an exploit already exists for both remote and local connections.
The systems I maintain are part of a bit of an elaborate network. There is a huge investment in controlling incoming and outgoing traffic as well as managing who actually has access to systems. While a local exploit a big deal it's not like there are a great number of places for users to inject this code. If someone could compromise an input vector and piggyback the exploit that still wouldn't get them very far. In fact, without knowing key details regarding the network infrastructure they would simply nab a host that could not reach the outside world.
With that said we do have a bit of reliance on lbs, traffic inspection, firewalls and a good bit of monitoring equipment. However, there is a solid investment in specific purpose network and security protocols to accomplish these goals. In a bit of a cheaper shop I'm wondering what others do to maintain security and get some of the same tools. (I'm being very vague about our setup intentionally, but there have to be some decent foss network tools as well).
I understand why you are posting as AC and being vague about it, I'm fucking paranoid about revealing details of the entrails of my network too.
People don't understand how security works. If I told you the alarm in my office will fail to detect movement in zone 7 if you do X and Y, would you say that my office is absolutely compromised? No. I still have a security guy, bars, security doors, CCTV, and most things of real value inside is doubly secured (source code is encrypted, money is in the safe). A simple glitch doesn't mean I'm getting robbed.
The problem is that there are many admins out there that do it by the book, and just think that patching systems is enough. You have to work with the OS to keep it secure, not just rely on it. Of course, securing a platform like windows is fucking impossible, that's why we don't use it (not even in the desktops). But if you have a reasonably secure OS, you have to use the rest of your architecture plus some level of monitoring and log-watching to keep things safe.
This doesn't require being physically close to the computer. For example, a web hosting company might give people limited permission ssh accounts on a web server, and the people could then use this exploit to get root.
Pretty much Greyfox sums it up right there. The days of having hundreds to thousands of users with shell access on a university or public access machine are long gone. Instead, the focus of security has moved from keeping users out of root [1] to keeping people from getting to the machine in the first place, and if they get to the machine via a networking protocol, not being able to execute code in any meaningful context on the machine.
The only time I'd worry about this is if someone could get a shell or execute code in an application's context (say they manage to do a buffer overrun and are able to stick a user shell on a port, for example.) However, this is what AppArmor and SELinux are designed to stop anyway, so even with root context, and attacker is limited to what they can do.
[1]: This isn't to say that user to root priv exploits are something to be completely neglected, of course.
The exploit in question actually includes a SELinux bypass. SELinux and AppArmor are not as great as you think; they are understood well enough that hackers can defeat them, and they are deployed on enough systems that hackers write their exploits so these protections are defeated.
SELinux and AppArmor are not as great as you think; they are understood well enough that hackers can defeat them, and they are deployed on enough systems that hackers write their exploits so these protections are defeated.
SELinux and Apparmor can't do much if you have an exploit that allows you to execute arbitrary code inside the kernel (which I believe this does). But they'll certainly stop the kind of random buffer overflow exploit that's been the most common avenue of remote attack.
SELinux and Apparmor can't do much if you have an exploit that allows you to execute arbitrary code inside the kernel (which I believe this does). But they'll certainly stop the kind of random buffer overflow exploit that's been the most common avenue of remote attack.
They will stop the simple use of a buffer overflow exploit to do something the program with the vulnerability couldn't do.
That is: a buffer overflow exploit allows running arbitrary code in the context of the program. SELinux limits what
The days of having hundreds to thousands of users with shell access on a university or public access machine are long gone.
What makes you say that? All of the three universities I've been at in the past eight years have provided shell access for all students and faculty to at least one cluster, and often more than one. The current university uses Solaris, so this particular issue isn't relevant, but I would be more surprised to hear of a university that doesn't offer shell access.
Mod the parent up. It's funny how certain folks try to down play a security hole like this just because it happens on Linux.
Now Ksplice is really starting to piss me off. This is at least the fifth time we've get this kind of crap on slashdot.
Besides that, this is an escalation vuln
So, between the ksplice assholes that abuse each vulnerability that is published to blow it out of proportion and somehow imply that if you require ksplice to patch this without loosing your job (I mean
Our UNIX admin has the philosophy that anyone with local access can get root if they want it bad enough. Security isn't done by presuming you've made that impossible. Rather security is done by making sure you don't give access to just anyone, and to monitoring what people do. Local escalation exploits are things to be fixed, since they can always make a remote exploit worse (someone exploits something remotely, gets unprivileged access, exploits the local exploit to get root) they aren't a critical threat usually.
However I will say you don't make things much better when you start with name calling with regards to Windows and the people that run it. That smacks of being the sort of asshole that knows little about the other platform that you are painting them to be. That you have a preferred platform is great. One would hope it is based on good reasons. However name calling on another platform indicates it is more likely based on zealotry than anything else.
it's local, ok? Not a remote exploit.
Ironically, a local exploit is somewhat more serious for Unix systems, because Unix hosters are much more likely to give shell access to their customers (effectively giving "local" access), while the most a typical Windows hoster will do is let you connect with IIS admin console.
``assholes that don't understand shit about security and somehow think that this means that GNU/Linux is insecure''
It _is_ insecure. There are plenty of vulnerabilities being found and reported, and there are several things that many distributions could do to improve security. To name a few examples, many distros ship with stack smashing protection and address space layout randomization disabled, and allow pages to be writable and executable by default. Also, usually, many operations are reserved to the root user, and the root user can do everything which means that more programs than necessary run as root, and root has more power than necessary. These are not the properties of secure systems; it's not even close to state of the art security.
``as bad as their shitty system''
I am not sure that such derogatory language makes the world a better place. I'm not even sure comparing the security of Linux with that of Windows is useful. If you do compare them, you will find that, at the very least, Microsoft has improved the security picture on Windows a great deal. In some cases, such as running with reduced privileges by default and only elevating privileges for programs that need it, they have merely caught up with Linux systems. But since Windows Vista, Windows ships with address space layout randomization and non-executable pages (Microsoft calls it DEP) enabled for many libraries and executables. Newer versions of Internet Explorer (certainly 8, but also newer versions of 7 if I'm not mistaken) are among those applications, and also include a "protected mode" where most of the program can't do very much at all, and all potentially harmful operations are concentrated in a small, trusted kernel running in a separate process. These are the sort of security measures taken by a vendor who takes security seriously. On the *nix side, you will find this kind of stuff in OpenBSD and a few specialty hardened Linux distros, and that's about it. Ubuntu has AppArmor, but hardly uses it.
If you look at vulnerabilities, like the privilege escalation vulnerability in the story, I would not be surprised to find that more of these are being found and reported in Linux than in Windows these days. What that means about the relative security of Linux and Windows, I don't know. But clearly, serious security flaws are being found in Linux. As far as I am concerned, Linux's security track record is far from stellar, and there certainly isn't a strong security culture that will make this better in the near future. Easily applied security measures (see first part of my post) are being left on the table, and we have far too much code running in all-powerful kernel mode for me to be comfortable with (just one data point: I have over 100 MB of kernel modules on my system, and on the order of tens of megabytes in the running kernel image).
Considering all the above, I would certainly refrain from calling names or making derogatory remarks against users of non-Linux systems. I don't profess to know which system is the most secure, all things considered, but I'm a firm believer in not needlessly stepping on people's toes.
Kind regards,
Your friendly neighborhood Linux guy
First you need remote access to my home machine, which is behind a NAT'd router and doesn't expose any services outside. That means that drive-by scanning won't work, and even if it did you'd have to find your way in via the only open port - ssh.
My systems in the commercial space are properly firewalled. It's a bad thing if anyone has shell access to them at all, let alone root.
You don't necessarily need shell access, just the ability to run a binary as any user.
This could be done, for example, if it is a web server and there is a PHP script with a vulnerability. If a hacker can run arbitrary PHP code, then they can run code to accept an upload of the binary.
Once the binary is uploaded to a world-writable directory such as
Am I the only person who says "hell no" to running that "diagnosis" program?
Testing it in a quick throw-away VM (e.g. in VirtualBox) is always instructive though. Just don't run it on your real machine.
And good lord god almighty, what 12 year old wrote this code, that they think having function names like put_your_hands_up_hooker() makes them cool?
This is copied directly from Ac1db1tch3z's exploit.
So the answer is Ac1db1tch3z thinks function names like put_your_hands_up_hooker() makes him cool.
Running 64-bit Linux? Haven't updated yet? You're probably being rooted as I type this.
C'mon now. As others have pointed out, and has been mentioned earlier on
Why? Because the systems that inexperienced users run also happen to be those with a few, generally trusted users. Think netbooks. Sure, all local root exploits are bad and should be patched asap. But that doesn't mean "you're probably being rooted as I type this". It means that a remote attacker needs user-level privileges (say, with a browser or plugin vulnerability) first. Since Ubuntu and probably other major distros have already patched this, and the default settings for updates on these systems is to check fairly frequently, most end users will have the patched kernel quickly.
That leaves multi-user systems. The admins of these servers certainly benefit from finding out about the vulnerability asap, and they did (including through previous stories here). By now, though, most admins should have something in place if they don't have full trust in their users. If they don't, they should definitely be looking at whether this was exploited.
The bottom line is that there are many local root exploits which come out every year. This is the latest one, with a patch already available. Responsible admins of multi-user systems are used to dealing with this, and home users are almost certainly going to be patched before it causes any issues. For them, the latest Flash vulnerability is more worrisome. Even the extremely rare remote exploit of a service isn't usually an issue, since most modern distros don't start much of anything by default (including ssh, IIRC).
As a long time user I get the option to disable advertising. I don't. I even whitelist Slashdot in Adblock because I support the site and the banner ads are rarely obnoxious.
These poorly disguised articles-as-ads are quite annoying though. Just make KSplice pay for a banner like everyone else.
I don't mind Slashvertisements, and in fact enjoy them on occasion. Unfortunately, they're passed off as a genuine grass-roots posting to the casual non-slashdot member. AKA astroturfing.
If Slashdot would actually flag the story as a "Slashvertisement", I think we as a community would have far an away much MUCH more respect for the story and wouldn't think so much of it. That's the point really. Keep it honest and the intention transparent.
The situation appears to be exactly as described by Ksplice.
CVE-2010-3081 has been discussed on RedHat forums and elsewhere.
The Ac1db1tch3z exploit published on the full disclosure list http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2010/Sep/268 [seclists.org]
does indeed appear to contain a backdoor (0p3n1ng th3 m4giq p0rt4l).
From the comments, the vulnerability was found in 2008 and the exploit has been used by the author for some time, and may have been circulating in the underground. When the vulnerability was found and disclosed by Ben Hawkes, the exploit was published to a wider audience.
A number of sysadmins may well have run the exploit on their systems to prove to themselves that this was a real threat. In doing so they may unknowingly have left a backdoor.
More commonly, proof-of-concept exploits posted on full-disclosure lists are crafted by security researchers, do not contain backdoors, and are relatively easy to read. In this case, the disclosed exploit is crafted by a hacker, may well contain a backdoor, and is written with leetspeak runtime messages and obfuscated code.
I admit I do not fully understand the code in the exploit or in the detection tool, or indeed the nature of the backdoor. However, on a Fedora 9 system, running the detector says there is no backdoor. After the exploit is run, the detector says there is a backdoor, so
the exploit must have changed the state of the system in some way. The detector looks for 3 separate backdoors; the one on my
test system disappears after reboot. As I thought the fix was to update the kernel to a patched version, which requires a reboot, I'm not sure how the backdoor could survive. I do not see how having the backdoor is riskier than having an unpatched system.
I can say, though, that the vulnerability exists in stock kernels 2.6.25 - 2.6.36, and was back-ported by RedHat into 2.6.18 used
in RHEL 5 (hence CENTOS 5). As stated by others, an unprivileged user account is required in order to exploit the vulnerability, which exists only on 64-bit x86 systems which also can run 32-bit code. One published mitigation step, which does not require a reboot, is to disable 32-bit compatibility mode by writing into
did anyone check the source code for that diagnose command?
static void put_your_hands_up_hooker(int argc, char *argv[])
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Dismantling Dallas at home right now... great kid, great talent...
Shanahan has done a great job tailoring the offense to him but damn is he threading the needle right now!!!
This is exactly the reason why the Jets should trade everything they have to in order to get a franchise QB if there is one in this or next draft. the skins gave up a ton to get RG3, think they are having any second thoughts? We gave up close to nothing to move up for Sanchez, there is a reason for that aside from Mangini being a dumb ass.
What odds on Garret getting sacked this week? Blown out by the rival Skins, at home, on Thanksgiving. Jones will NOT be happy!
His accuracy is amazing. He's miles better than Luck, not even close.
Here it is :
Redskins receive:
First-round pick (No. 2)
Robert Griffin III
Rams receive:
First-round pick (No. 6):
Traded to Cowboys
Second-round pick (No. 39):
Janoris Jenkins
2013 first-round pick
2014 first-round pick
So THREE firsts and a second.
Is any one player - even a possible franchise QB - worth THAT much, to move up 4 spots?
One final point, as good as he looks, and I am not taking anything away from him because I am impressed, RG III does have weapons/playmakers on offense -- good wrs, TE, rb that helps his development.
While I believe Wilkerson could be the best of the bunch, even if he is the next Richard Seymour, QBs get you to the Super Bowl while DE's are role players. If that were not true, then Minnesota would have been the best twam in the AFC last year because of Jared Allen and not picking 3rd in the draft.
Mark's accuracy is what is holding our offensive players back. Look at the difference Henne made when he replaced Gabbart. Accuracy is everything. We all knocked Pennington for his lack of arm strength, but because he was accurate, he could get the ball to his playmakers. Right now, Mark cannot.
But to answer your question, it is worth it. I do not think the Redskins are worried. Although it is going to be hard to get him that dynamic WR that he will need in order to take the offense to the next level.
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I was talking about moving up for a QB. With the new rookie wage scale the price to move up has increased b.c the financial risk is less.
We should take a QB every year until we find one. I'm tired of not having a good QB. We have nothing to lose. It has been 40+ years.
The Cha-ching at the registers ringing up Foreskin merchandise, especially RG3 stuff. And you know that he has to be worth the price of admission to watch live.
Butts in the seats and cash registers ringing....would say tht for the moment, it was worth it for next four years , thats if Ware doesnt hit again like he just did, wow, planted him.

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Jak and Daxter
Jak and Daxter is a video game series created and developed by Naughty Dog.
- 1 The Precursor Legacy
- 2 Jak II (Renegade)
- 3 Jak 3
- 4 The Lost Frontier
- 5 Daxter (2006 game)
- 6 Jak X: Combat Racing
The Precursor Legacy[edit]
- Yah!
- Ouch!
- (to Samos) Uh, we won't find any more of that Dark-gooey-Eco stuff in there, will we? Cuz I'd hate to fall in again and turn into you!
- The sage yaps on about the Precursors who built this place all the time. (imitating Samos) "Where did they go, why did they build this crap?"
- I like Precursor Orbs and power cells as much as the next guy, but if you ask me, [the Precursors] musta been real losers.
- Hmmm. Stay fuzzy, save the world... Choices. Oh alright fine! We'll save the world! But do it quickly before I change my mind!
- "Oh Boy! Here we go again!
Death Monologues[edit]
- I was right behind you, Jak! Really... I was.
- Don't worry, I'll avenge you! Not...!
- While you're down there, will you rub my feet?
- Don't step into the light, Jak! DON'T STEP INTO THE LIGHT!!
- Say "goodnight", Jak.
- Hey, Jak! Can I, uh... have your insect collection?
- I'll say something really teary at the funeral, like... "HOW AM I GONNA GET CHANGED BACK NOW?!!"
- Step 1: Stay Alive. Step 2: THINK ABOUT NOT DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT AGAIN!!
- Heimlich! Stretcher! Yuck! Breath mint?
- Well, uh... better you than me.
- That looks like it hurt. Should I call for backup?
Samos the Green Sage[edit]
- I have spent my life searching for the answers that my father and my father's fathers failed to find. Who were the Precursors? Why did they create the vast monoliths that litter our planet? How did they harness Eco, the life energy of the world? What was their purpose? And why did they vanish? I have asked the plants, but they do not remember. The plants have asked the rocks, but the rocks do not recall. Even the rocks do not recall. Every bone in my body tells me that the answers rest on the shoulders... of a young boy... oblivious to his destiny, uninterested in the search for truth, and rejecting of my guidance! And why would he want to listen to old Samos the sage, anyway? I'm only the master of Green Eco, one of the wisest men on the planet! So it seems the answers begin not with careful research or sensible thinking. Nay! As with many of fate's mysteries, it begins with but a small act... of disobedience.
Yellow Sage[edit]
- Who woulda thought I'd live to see the day I had to be rescued by a boy and his muskrat? I'm gonna give Gol and Maia a little payback for these embarrassments! Then we'll see about cookin' up some muskrat stew. (Daxter gulps)
- Sculptor: Hey! Little furry dude! Oh, I thought you were my muse!
- Daxter: Your what?
- Sculptor: You haven't seen a muse before? It's a little glowin' squirrel about your size, full of spunk, and crazy as a lark!
- Daxter: Oh, I get it! Like a sidekick. (points to Jak)
- Red Sage: Heh heh heh heh...! You've finally come to rescue me! Do you know how long I've been in here? Heh heh heh...! What are your names?
- Daxter: I'm Daxter. He's Jak. He's with me.
- Blue Sage: Great balls of Precursor metal! That insidious contraption must not be allowed to wreak its terrible havoc! I shall try to actuate the shield door by eliciting a conduit of energy between myself, and the vast portal bellow!
- Daxter: Yeah... you do that. We'll go get help. (aside) Weirdo.
- Samos: (after arriving at the Blue Sage's Hut) "I don't think I'll ever get used to that teleporter tingling sensation. (He looks around the hut, which looks like it has had a struggle take place inside it) Hey! It looks like the Blue Sage threw a party."
- Keira: Oh my, (She points out of the window past the telescope in the window) Rock Village is on fire!
- Samos: (Gesturing and almost hitting Jak, who ducks, with his staff) One heck of a party!
- Keira: (Gesturing wildly with her hands): No, no, I mean Rock Village is being bombarded with flaming boulders. (She looks through the telescope as Daxter repeatedly jumps up to try and see through the window) Oh, and it looks like the Blue Sage is working on a levitation machine to move them. Assuming it's operational, we're going to need Power Cells to fuel it. (She looks back to Jak) I guess you two are going to have to find some more.
- Samos: We'd better take a look at his notes. Jak, go check on the villagers, then come back and give us an update... and take the furball with you.
- Maia: We have been given a beauty beyond anything you could understand.
- Daxter: Beauty? Have you two looked in a mirror lately?
- Maia: Just wait until we open the silos, little one. You think short and fuzzy is bad...
- Gol: And to think, you two traveled all the way here for my help! Fools! Enjoy your front-row seats to the re-creation of the world!
- Samos: "It's about time you two decided to show up!
- Daxter: "Nice to see you, too! Do they have you mopping the floors now?
- Daxter: Look, old man! Are you gonna keep yappin' or are you gonna help me outta this mess?
- Samos:"I'm gonna keep yappin', because in my personal opinion, the change is an improvement. (Daxter silently growls) And besides... I couldn't do it even if I wanted to.
- Daxter: WHAT?!
- Mayor: Oh, don't tell me you two have problems as well! First, I hear of monstrous sightings near the village, now this. See those gears, boys? See them, see how they're not moving? That means our village has no power! The Eco beam coming from the jungle temple has been interrupted.
- Daxter: Did you pay the bill?
- Birdwatcher: Oh my, what a horribly sick little bird!
- Daxter: Huh! You don't look so good yourself, lady!
- Birdwatcher: Oh, sorry! I thought you were a Spotted Orange-Bellied Rain Fray.
- Samos: Hey! It looks like the Blue Sage threw a party!
- Keira: Oh my! Rock Village is on fire!
- Samos: One heck of a party!"
- Willard: Ooh! Ooh! I got it this time! Here's a... Here's a...!
- Gordy: A Power Cell!
- Willard: Yeah... yeah... What he said.
- Daxter: (on the Precursor Ring) Wooooow! What is it?
- Keira: It's beautiful...!
- Samos: By the Precursors...!
- Boggy Billy: I own these here parts. Everything that doesn't sink into the mud that is!
- Daxter: Judging by the smell, I'd wager your bathtub sank into the mud long ago!
- Boggy Billy: What's a bathtub?
- Keira: (on Power Cells) And they are all just waiting for some brave adventurer to find.
- Daxter: Well we've got the brave adventurer at least.
- Samos: Brave adventurer?! You 2 wouldn't be able to get out of the village without training!"
Jak II (Renegade)[edit]
- (first line) "I'm gonna kill Praxis!"
- (After first meeting a disguised Kor) "You look like a reasonably smart man. I want information! Where the hell am I?"
- "It's been a tough ride."
- "You know what? Do it your way and I'll do it mine. Just don't come crying to me when the walls fall down."
- "Kill Metal Heads? Get toys? Sounds good to me."
- "Precursor Stone, gun, nest. (Activates gun) HAHA, eat this!
- "Okay, I swear that's the last time I ever, ever, touch any stupid Precursor crap!"
- "Don't say it. Don't even chuckle. Next time, you turn the valve."
- (holding the vibrating Shard) "Wow! This puppy's got some vibra-a-a-a-t-t-i-o-o-n-n to it. This baby will put a smile on your face!"
- "The Baron pumped our boy here full of Dark Eco, and it did something to him. Now he's got super moves or something...and a few anger issues as well."
- (watching Ashelin leave) Whoo, she's a betty. And she likes you, Jak. Not that I can account for her taste. I bet you'd love to pin some medals on her chest, huh?
- (Jak had just asked Daxter if he wanted to race against Erol) Against that crazy loon, Erol? No way! You've got the handlebars, brother. And you'd better keep us alive or I will never speak to you again...obviously.
- "It ain't no petting zoo out there...peeps be gettin' deep sixed!"
- "I'd like to give him a touching moment."
- "Slow down, Jak and the fat man!"
- (looking at the camera) Game rights?!
- (Yelling to Erol) "Ah, blow it off your ear! You were bottle fed, weren't you!"
- (Looking at the lens) "That's some peeper, huh? (Sniffs) Something's cooking. Hmm...kind of smells like... (tail catches on fire) Burnt Ottsel?! Waaaaaaaahhhhhh!!"
- "Two Samos the Sages? Wah! Jak, they're multiplying!"
- "Remind me not to piss you off!"
Samos the Sage[edit]
- "For every age there is a time of trial. The rocks faced such a fire before they were the strength beneath our feet. The plants braved vast winds before their roots could give us life. As a sage of considerable years, I have known only one such great ordeal. Yet the hero it created was a champion of all time."
The Metal Head Leader[edit]
- "Finally! The last Rift Gate has been opened!"
- "You cannot hide from me, boy!"
- "A deal is of no value if you can't deliver, my dear Baron. I grow impatient with these puny gestures. Give me the agreed upon Eco soon, or the deal is off, and your precious city will pay the price!
- "I will find that stone, even if I have to crush this city, one brick at a time!"
- (about Daxter, who has fled) Forget the rat, the Baron wants him. (To Jak) We've been waiting for you.
- He is surprisingly resistant to your 'experiments,' Baron Praxis; I fear the Dark Warrior Program has failed.
- You're the talk of the town, Jak; you give the people hope. How pathetic! I would've enjoyed killing you in prison, but now, it'll be so much more fun to take you on the track, in front of the entire city! I can hear the roar of the crowd now, as everyone sees their hope die.
- I want more than just to win, Eco freak! I want you!
- You know, Keira loves a winner. Someday she'll be my mechanic.
Baron Praxis[edit]
- "Ah, a brave man of the people. And who is this worthy opponent? In my world, good men are either bought, or broken. So which is it going to be? [...] Fool! Don't you get it? All the heroes died long ago! Only survival remains... By whatever means! This city is mine! These lives are mine! This WAR is mine! And in war, people die. Kill him."
- (Propaganda post) Remember, even friends can be enemies. Turn them all in!
- (Propaganda post) Work harder! Eat less! (Spoken very quickly) Drink only when I tell you! (Spoken slowly and seriously) Sleep...is optional.
- (Propoganda post) Work hard for the freedom I may someday give you.
- (Propoganda post) Defy and die. Welcome to Haven City. All laws are enforced for your safety. Obey, and you will not be punished. The city is safe. I will not allow harm to befall you. Trust me. Rest assured, I will destroy the Metal Heads one way or another.
- (Propoganda post) All Metal Heads must die!
- Daxter: Whew! Being a big hero sure makes ya thirsty!
- [Daxter opens the water hatch, and Torn gains an annoyed expression as the sound of water coming through the pipe is heard. The substance that comes out is sludge, however, and not water. Daxter gags and shuts the water off while you can barely hear Torn chuckling]
- Torn: The Baron turned off all water to the slums. He's willing to sacrifice innocent lives, just to destroy the Underground. I shouldn't be surprised. I've seen his evil before, while serving in the Krimzon Guard. That's why I quit.
- Jak: You were a Krimzon Guard? Heh. Oh, that explains your charming sense of humor.
- Samos: Take the seed to Onin now. She will prepare it for Samos.
- Daxter: You mean you?
- Samos: No! The other me, Daxter! My younger self needs the seed's power to become... sagely.
- Daxter: So let me get this straight. It's safe to say by bringing your younger self the life seed now, we helped you become the sage you are today! We helped you get your powers in the first place! And you never thanked us?
- Samos: Thank you, Daxter. Now go do it!
- Torn: One of the Baron's mining operations is under attack by the Metal Heads.
- Jak: That's not our problem.
- Torn: It is our problem when the foreman's one of the Underground's best informants! His name is Vin, and he's just valuable enough to save. Find the warp gate at the power station and use it to travel to the strip mine so you can rescue Vin's pathetic hide.
- Daxter: Hey, Tattooed Wonder, how come we get all the crappy missions?!
- Torn: [emphasizing each word] Because I...don't...like...you.
- Daxter: [meekly] Fair enough.
- Torn: Whatever deal the Baron made with the Metal Heads, the city's eco is almost gone, and his time is running out. If we don't get the kid back on the throne soon, there may not be a city left to defend.
- Krew: What is that horrible smell? [sniffs the air]
- Daxter: Ohhh, great! We do your dirty work and we come back smelling worse than a wet Hip Hog in a warm barn! [sniffs himself and turns to Jak.] This could have a serious impact on the lady factor.
- Krew: No. [Krew belches.] Uh, I think it was my lunch, actually. [Jak and Daxter look disgusted.] Nice work in the sewers, 'ey. I guess you're looking for that weapon upgrade, mmm? Well, there's a Blaster mod stashed in some crates at the Port. Find it, and it's yours. Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!
- Krew: I have a proposition for you, Jak. Racing is the biggest sport in the city! Erol is the undisputed grand champion. He's crazy and dangerous on the track. Haha. My kind of guy. Only a fool would dare race against him, 'ey! And that's where you two come in. A client of mine is looking for a fast driver for her racing team. Here's a security pass to get you into the stadium section. Uh, and your contract, with just a few trifles for me. I've ah, already signed your name to save time, mmmmmnn.
- [Daxter takes the contract and reads it in a very fast manner. During this, Jak almost falls asleep.]
- Daxter: "We, the racers, hereby agree to give Krew all proceeds from race earnings, endorsement fees, broadcast royalties, syndications residuals, vehicle sponsorships, mall appearance fees, collectible card assets, fast-food tie-ins, use of likeness rights, talk show deals, clothing lines, all print rights including book, novella, comic, pamphlet, tickertape, neon sign and bathroom graffiti designs..." [large breath] "...toy rights, shoe lines, mood rings, game rights..." [stops and looks at the camera, thus breaking the fourth wall.] GAME RIGHTS?! [resumes reading] "...vitamin endorsements, city kickbacks, movie deals, and of course, all death and dismemberment accident insurance claims."
- Krew: Heh-heh-heh. We can work out the tiny details later. If you can get from here to the Race Garage near the stadium in less than 3 minutes, my client said that she would consider letting you drive for her team. Make me proud, mmmm!
- Torn: One of my old guard comrades was sent to the Pumping Station. There's been no word from the patrol, and after what you guys ran into out there, I'm afraid she may need some help.
- Jak: [curiously] Did you say "she"?
- Torn: [in serious tone] Don't even think about it. [roars at Daxter] Stop that! This is serious, you moron!
- Daxter: Whaa! That's right: Don't mess with the sugar.
- Torn: This friend of mine has helped the Underground many times before. Go back to the Pumping Station and take a look around. Render assistance if needed. Now get your squirrelly ass outta here.
- Daxter: Eh, what the heck are we doing risking our lives to rescue some old Krimson Guard hag anyway? She's probably got more facial hair than me.
- Ashelin: Who the Hell are you two?
- Daxter: Mmm, I do love a woman in uniform. Wanna bark some orders at me? Woof-woof! I'm your soldier on the front lines of love. Waiter, foxhole for two!
- [Ashlin aims her blaster at Daxter's groin]
- Ashelin: Keep talking and I'll raise your voice a couple of octaves.
- Jak: Easy. Torn asked us to help you.
- Ashelin: I don't need help. But you might. We've got company.
- Daxter: [to Tess] Hey, sugarplum. You new here? Well, whatcha got that's, uh, hot and-- Wait, I've seen you before. You're with the Underground.
- [Alarmed, Tess shushes Daxter before Krew can hear.]
- Tess: Shhh! I'm Tess. Torn sent me to spy on Krew. [Daxter looks at Tess's cleavage.] Play along, and maybe I'll be able to get a few hands on a few of his secrets.
- Daxter: Ooh! I love undercover work, baby! But, uh, two can work better than one. Let me help you out. [Daxter jumps behind the bar counter as Tess giggles.] [proceeds to drink the bar counter's liquor.] Wow! There sure are a lot of bottles back here. [gulping noises] Whew! Ooh, that's-- Ooh, that-- That goes down, uh-- Ooh, boy. Gee, ya suppose that's real gold floatin' in here? How 'bout this purple stuff? [gluging] WHEW! That's the stuff!
- Krew: Jak, I need you and the talking rat to go around and make a few collections for me.
- [Before he can continue, Daxter gets up from behind the counter and hiccups, looking rather drunk.]
- Daxter: [slurring] Hey there, five chins. How's crimes?
- Krew: What's his problem, 'ey?
- Daxter: [slurring] Nothin'. I'm just fine. [burps] Mind your own business. [hiccups, falls onto his back, and begins droning] I sometimes feel so very...
- Krew: Listen, I have six "clients" around town who are about to make money drops for me. I need you to collect each moneybag as fast as you can, and take care of any guards who get curious, mmmmn. Get to a moneybag too late and some townie might pick it up.
- Daxter: Feeling so DRYYYYYY! You know what's the trouble with you, Krew? You got no vision. This place could be a real swingin' joint. Hop Heg Hiven with more dancin', more mac'n, more WOMEN! Jak knows what I'm talking about!
- Krew: Just collect all 14 moneybags, before they disappear, and bring them back here. If you lose even one bag, then don't come back, 'ey!
- Krew: Mmmm, quite the money collectors, 'ey? Here's a Gun Upgrade. Now get out! I need my beauty nap.
- Daxter: Trust me, brother. There aren't enough hours in the day.
- [Jak and Daxter are entering the blind old soothsayer Onin's hut. Daxter is amazed.]
- Daxter: Cool! Check out the dead stuff! [Daxter pokes Pecker hanging off the wall. Pecker suddenly bites Daxter's prodding finger.] Ow!
- Pecker: Touch the goods again, rat boy, and you'll be... [squawk] ...counting with your toes! [flies onto Onin's headbasket] I am Pecker! [Jak and Daxter silently snicker] Yes, yes, I know, my mother, she was... very vindictive. I am Onin's interpreter. [Onin springs to life just as Pecker did, and makes various hand gestures.] Onin welcomes you, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, the usual boring salutations, she says it is good to see you again, Jak.
- Jak: But we've never met before.
- Pecker: Before, after, it is all the same.
- Daxter: Oh! Oh! Let me try! Uh, she wants a-- She wants a yakow bone! A yakow bladder! No! No! I got it! For many moons, she has... waited for... a juice pop? A jewel shop? Oh! Oh! I know! She's got a hairball! A hair lip! A hairy chest!
- Pecker: Close, but no! Onin says you seek answers... [squawk] ...about the Tomb of Mar. [Onin makes the seal of Mar appear]
- Jak: So what do we need to know?
- Pecker: She's going on and on about mystical energy channels, evil curses, stupid "Ooooooh!" crap. Forget all that! I'm gonna sum this up quickly, because now you're cutting into my siésta time. Onin wants you to recover 3 artifacts from the Precursor Mountain Temple. Not 2, Not 4, 3. Use the Warp Gate at the northwest side of the city, and bring back the three items you find.
- [Jak and Daxter enter Onin's hut with an angry Pecker looking down at them.]
- Pecker: Onin says what took you so long?! We had to skip lunch waiting for you two! [Onin claps her hands] Okay... okay... She really says "Thank you for saving the Life Seed". But I wouldn't say that if I were her! Give Onin the seed, and she will prepare it for Samos. [As Onin starts to prepare the Seed, Pecker stares at it with a tint of hunger in his eyes.] Mmmmmm... bird seed...
- Daxter: Back off, feather weight!
- Pecker: Listen tiny tail, I was leading my 100th flock south before you had fur one between your legs! Not that your fur means anything!
- Daxter: At least I'm not some stuffed, over yappin', feather dusty mouthpiece for the world's oldest professional! [mockingly] Jak says, "Have a nice day." Jak says, "I can't think on my own." Jak says "Go bite yourself!"
- Pecker: That's it, rat boy! Now you've REALLY pissed me off!
- [Pecker and Daxter exchange awkward karate-esque poses.]
- Pecker and Daxter: Hiyaaaaoooowww!
- Jak: [off-screen] Knock it off, both of you!
- Pecker: [to Daxter] You're lucky I'm famished!
- Jak: Where would you be without me, eh, Dax?
- Daxter: Well, Jak, I probably wouldn't be two feet tall, fuzzy, and running around in a sewer without a pair of pants! God, I miss pants.
- Bruter: Lurker balloons are finest lifters in world, but they is easy targets.
- Jak: Right. You guys get the rift rider into the nest, I'll stand here and defend your take off and getaway.
- Daxter: Once again, being your friend sucks! I wanna go on the balloon.
- Torn: The city's on high alert. What the Hell'd you two do?!
- Daxter: Us? Nothing. We've been, um, sightseeing. Right, Jak?
- Torn: Really? Then, why are the Krimzon Guard looking for "A dangerous young man with light hair, blue tunic, and a rabid orange rat on his shoulder"?
- Daxter: Uh, could be anyone. Orange is the new black this season.
- Jak: Look, we've climbed up to the Baron's palace, and, we tripped a few alarms.
- Daxter: Oh, right. That, too.
- Torn: What?! I didn't authorize a strike on the--
- Jak: Hey. We kicked the Baron's ass. Unfortunately, he escaped.
- Daxter: And we overheard a secret meeting with the leader of the Metal Heads!
- Kor: You saw the Metal Head leader?
- Jak: No. He was on some communicator. But we heard him talking with Baron Praxis.
- Daxter: The Baron is bribing the Metal Heads with eco!
- Kor: Hmm! It will never be enough.
- Daxter: But the Baron's gonna double cross 'em!
- Kor: Is that so? Well, our "good" Baron's "wonderful charm" must have angered someone, because there's word from the Wasteland that Metal Head armies are on the move again!
- Jak: Why didn't you tell me Ashelin was Praxis' daughter?! What's your connection with her?!
- Torn: That's none of your business! Since you've stirred up the wumpbee's nest, you and whiskers here need to get four of our people to new safe houses. Shuttle each agent to a location they specify. Move all of them without any casualties. Don't screw this up, Jak.
- Keira: Erol's the best racer I've ever seen.
- Jak: He's not what you think.
- Keira: And you're a good judge of character? Ha! Look at you. People say you get angry and...change. Besides, the Jak I knew wouldn't be working for a guy like Krew.
- Jak: I need Krew's connections to fight the Baron. Without my... You know what? Do it your way, and I'll do it mine. Just don't come crying to me when the walls fall down!
- Jak: I still can't believe that little boy was me. Better times, huh?
- Keira: You miss him, huh? You know, the kid grows up to be a handsome hero.
- [they're about to kiss]
- Daxter: Hey! [Kiera and Jak glance at Daxter, who is actually talking to a drunk Onin] That's enough for you lady! I'm cuttin' you off!
- [Onin zaps him]
- Pecker: Trust me, she gets real mean when she's like this!
- [Onin makes hand gestures]
- Daxter: What'd she say?
- Pecker: Something about rubber tubing and certain parts of your mother. You don't wanna know.
- Sig: You know, my momma used to read me bedtime stories about Mar when she'd tuck me in. She'd give me a nice glass of warm yakow milk... and my little Poopsy bear.
- Daxter: Bedtime stories, warm milk, poopsy bear?! Buddy, ya just blew yer image!
Jak 3[edit]
- Don't touch it Daxter! Who knows what more Dark Eco will do to you.
- I'm through saving the world.
- To the end.
- Let's go topside and see what kind of trouble we can get into.
- Go back to the city Dax.
- I thought you said a smart warrior never takes his opponent head on.
- Dark? Dirty? Dangerous? I'm beginning to like this war.
- (In disgust of Daxter's and Tess's talk) Oh please! Will you two take it outside?
- Don't make me come over there and...sic Jak on ya!
- Our boy here gets all mean and nasty when you piss him off. So don't piss him off. (Whispers) Word to the wise…
- I'll handle this.
- Excuse me... Mr. Sand King... Yes, I'd like to place a complaint. We've been training hard. My feet are killing me, and I think I'm getting a hangnail.
- Talk to the tail. Cause the whiskers ain't listening! We out, Jak.
- I've got two words for you: tooth brush !
- You know what I really miss? Soft underpants. You know how it lifts and cradles? (scratches under the screen.) You wouldn't understand.
- AARGH! My beautiful mug!
- Hey! I'm the real hero here! you can call me.... Orange Ligthing, ziz-zi-zig!
Death Monologues[edit]
- "You're saving the good moves for later, right?"
- "I feel for ya Jak, but I wouldn't want to be you."
- "Ohohoho, man! That had to hurt."
- "Jak, it's time for Orange Lightning to take over."
- "Are you having an outer body experience, is that what this is?"
- "And I thought you were going to protect ME!"
- "You did that on purpose, right?"
- "I wonder if Ashelin needs a new sidekick?"
- "Alright, cut! Where's the director? I can't work like this!"
- "Please, Jak, you're such a wimp. I could have taken them myself."
- "Maybe you should sit on my shoulder for a while."
- "This is what happens when they drop my name from the title."
- "I'm glad I'm not your stunt double."
- "You came! You saw! You got your butt kicked."
- "Where are the moves, man? I'm wondering, where are they?"
- "Could we, uh, try that again? Alright, places, everyone!"
- "8, 9, 10, and he's down for the count! You're out!"
- "You need your bottle? Come on, you big baby!"
- I've found some new friends to help me conquer this puny little planet.
- (about the Dark Makers) It seems my digital self can communicate with these poor, tortured minds quite well. Oh but they're just like you and me Jak; well, me at least. They want a home, someone to call a friend—destruction of all Light Eco!
- I'll drive. Jak, you get on the gun! Daxter, just get in, sit down, and shut up!
Count Veger[edit]
- This time, the precursors will not have mercy on you.
- You will all burn in the precursor fires of creation! I swear it.
Kleiver: Those were some sweet moves in the arena, boy. But a little more choke and you would've popped, eh?
Jak: Are you talking to me?
Daxter: Yeah, are you talking to...him?
Kleiver: No, I'm conversing with me sweet, departed mum. Of course you, ya bore head!
Pecker: This...was all your stupid idea!
Daxter: No...it was yours. Only a bird brain could have thought this one up. (imitates Pecker) Let's go with him! We'll help together! (angry) You mean we'll die together! I can't believe the city hates us. We saved those lowlifes!
Kleiver: I used to be the tall poppy on that baby. Wanna try to beat me score?
Daxter: (slyly) Oh, don't worry. Jak "beats" things all the time. Eh, Jak? Heh heh heh heh...
(Jak smacks Daxter upside the head, Daxter gives him an angry look)
Torn: You know the drill.
Daxter: Yeah, we do all the work, and you get all the credit.
Daxter: Oh yeah! The boys are back in town!
Jak: Let's go upside and see what kind of trouble we can get in to.
Ashelin: No, this one's tricky. I'm giving it to Torn and Jinx.
Daxter: What!? I suppose you don't think we're good enough, huh? You don't think we can do it?
Jak: Dax...
Daxter: May I remind you, that this team of Daxter, Jak, and Daxter have taken just about every scary thing this world can throw at us for three...count 'em, three adventures!
Jak: Daxter...
Daxter: This is an outrage, Jak! We're the heroes! We're the ones on cereal boxes for God's sake. And I'm about to release my own line of sports shoes! I've got a contract.
Ashelin: You're on the mission. Your job is to cover Torn and Jinx in a vehicle filled with explosives. Escort them to the Metal Head section, and together you'll blow open the nest.
Daxter: Oh, well... why didn't you say so in the first place?
Pecker: Onin says there are strange forces at work. Fate has been twisted by
something more powerful than anything she has ever seen in her many years.
Aawwrrk! Something now awake deep in the catacombs.
Daxter: Let me guess. You blow hards want us to go down there. Correct?
(Onin gives a thumbs up. Pecker nods enthusiastically.)
Samos: The best access to the catacombs is on the Metal Head side of the city.
Daxter: Sometimes...I really hate you guys.
(After Jak and Damas crash near the catacombs, Jak sees Damas underneath Desert Rover, struggling to get out)
Jak: Damas!
Damas: Not bad driving, kid. It was a good fight (cough) and a good day to die. I'm...very proud to have been by your side...in the end. This world is not yet out of heroes.
Jak: We did well together. (Damas struggles on the ground slightly) Don't move, I'll-
Damas: Please...promise me one thing...promise me you'll...find my son...Mar. You'll know him when you see this. (Shows the symbol of Mar to Jak) He's...wearing an amulet just like it. (Jak has a flashback to the Kid from the previous game, his younger self, wearing the amulet) It is a symbol of our lineage...with the great house of Mar. (Cough) Save the people, Jak. They need you...(Damas dies)
Jak: (Whispers) Father...
(After Jak finds out that Damas was his father, Count Veger arrives)
Count Veger: Yes, you were that child. I took from Damas, hoping to harness your eco powers for my experiments. Then, I lost you to the Underground. You seem upset? Did I tell you to late? You were the son of the great warrior Damas. Oh, and he never knew, (smiles evilly) how delightful.
Jak: (Roars in anger, turning temporarily into Dark Jak) Veger! (Reverts back to normal)
Count Veger: Thank you for opening the door to the Precursors. Don't worry, I'll be back to put you out of your misery. (Jumps into nearby hovercar and flies down the hole to the center of the Earth and the Precursors)
Daxter: (Jumps on Jak's shoulder, points to the hole) After him, Jak!
Jak: (surprised and disbelieving) You're willing to go down there? Without a fuss this time?
Daxter: Yeah, well, don't get used to it. It's just that nobody hurts my best friend, and lives to brag about it! Let's get him!
(Chase after Count Veger with last hovercraft nearby)
Daxter: Ah, the naughty ottsel, Honey! i'm home!
Torn: Jak! I thought I never see you again.
Daxter: Torn! what are you doing to my place!
Torn: We needed a southern HQ for the war, plus I kind of like the osttel head outside.
Daxter: Yeah, it's cool huh?
Torn: We use it for target practice.
Daxter: HEY!
Damas: Someone call for an army?
Jak: You're a long way from the desert. I thought you said a smart warrior never takes his opponent head on?
Damas: It depends on how hard your skull is. I'd say you and I are both rather head strong.
Jak: Let's finish this!
The Lost Frontier[edit]
Daxter (2006 game)[edit]
- Wait! Come back! After I fell down to... confuse the Lurkers I uh... argh!
- What insect crawled up his butt?
- Oh yeah! Let's see what's on the Tube tonight. (presses buttons to cycle through TV channels) Boring... boring... seen it... hated it... I was up for that part... (girls screaming) Whoa! Sorry ladies! I didn't know Krimzon Girls took showers!
- I know Kung Fu?
- Wow, that was pretty deep.
- The Twitch comes with the Job
- Daxter: (Examining bug shop) Looks like the bugs won.
Osmo: What was that?
Daxter: Nothing!
- Daxter: (Spots Tik on floor) What's this? Hey little fella. Are you lost? (picks up Tik) I'll get us off this rusty boat, don't worry your little... thorax or whatever it is. (stands) You know... I always wanted my very own sidekick! From now on I'll call you..!
Tik: Tik! Tik!
Daxter: Tik... I wonder if you're a boy or a girl. Let's see... so small it's hard to tell.
Tik: Tik Tiiiik!!
Daxter: Hey! Did you just raise your leg? Eww! Bad Tik! Bad! From now on only on the grass ok? Yuck...
- Daxter: Someone call about a bug infestation?
Erol: What? I've herd of no infestation. (points his gun at Daxter) Who called you?
Daxter: Uh, your boy, you know! (makes it up as he goes along) Captain Xi-Ximon Rupert-tik-Jak-mos.
Erol: Nice try. That call didn't happen. Captain Ruperttikjakmos is on leave this month. He couldn't have been the one!
Jak X: Combat Racing[edit]
- Tell you the truth, I'm probably dead already. But that doesn't mean I can't take a few scumbags with me.
- So we're up against the world's nastiest crime boss with the best mercenary racers money can buy, and we've been poisoned. I've had better weeks.
Gameplay quotes[edit]
- Ready to get car-Jakked?
- Okay, now you piss me off!
- You want some Dark Jak?
- Feeling Jakked up?
- I'm gonna Jak you up!
- This one's for Damas.
- Yeah, Samos taught me well.
- Wham, bam, thank you ma'am.
- Krew...reproduced?! Ewwww! Can you imagine what that tub of jelly must look like?
- Jak, next time you invite me to one of your little parties...DON'T!
- Well, somebody here had better win, or I'm gonna be very pissed...and very dead.
- Dude, that was so last adventure - available in stores now.
- You know, I was having a good day until you showed up!
Gameplay quotes[edit]
- Don't make me go Precursor on you!
- You want some Bad Ottsel?
- I smell burnt ottsel!
- I got my butt shaved there.
- I'm a bright orange target!
- It's ottsel season!
- Man, it's tough being a sidekick.
- Ottsels can fly!
- You can't protect me forever! Someday, I'll show you!
- I'm not your little girl anymore. You'll see.
- I can handle tools. (flirtatiously) But that's not all I'm good at, Jak.
Gameplay quotes[edit]
- You ready for a girl to beat you?
- Okay, boys, hear me roar!
- Up yours!
- This one was for Samos.
- See, Daddy? I can race!
- Good girls finish first.
- The good girl wins again.
- My, my. Sounds like this city's terribly dangerous. Maybe we should get law enforcement to crack down.
- You know, people in this city have a way of getting in over their heads. Like at the bottom of the ocean.
- Don't make me put on my goggles and show you how it's done. You wouldn't live long enough to see me cross the finish line.
- I just came by to tell you I'm officially coming out of retirement, just for you, Jak. Everyone's screaming for us to swap paint, and when it's over, this town won't mourn your passing. They'll only lament how much money they lost betting on a loser.
Gameplay quotes[edit]
- You won't see me coming, but you'll feel the explosion.
- Good looks and speed win every time.
- Perfection is so hard to face, isn't it?
- Touch me, and you die.
- Fastest around the track, and my hair is still perfect.
- Razer cuts to the bone!
G.T. Blitz[edit]
- You saw it here, folks! At least those of you who didn't die yawning or switch to the bran channel. An unknown driver wins his first big race...in lackluster fashion.
- It looks like the competition's really heating up, as are the piles of smoldering wrecks on the side of the road. Hahaha!
- Do you honestly think you can come onto my (BEEP) show and make me look like a (BEEP) fool?! Well, (BEEP) you! (The rest of his rant is censored with a continuous beep, and the live feed is replaced with a "technical difficulties" screen.)
Gameplay quotes[edit]
- My show will cover your funeral!
- You're dead in 3, 2, 1...
- Smile, Jak. You're dead.
- I'd love this if it wasn't me!
- That show pony, Gee-Whizz Blitz, told me I could find you here.
- Go ahead, give it a burl. I'll be the one laughing from the stands.
- I'm gonna find you two out on the track, and when I do, you'll wish you'd never wedged behind a wheel!
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- Kleiver chops through the pack!
- Bigger is better!
- Size does matter!
- This Wastelander is gonna waste you.
- (Before getting interrupted by Ashelin) My father provided everything we need to win. One of us can do it if we all...
- But at least we're winning races. That's good.
- (to an unknown person on cell phone) Call a meeting. I want every crime boss present. That's right... I'm running this town now. Father was too soft. No, don't eliminate the racers, they were my friends. Although probably not any longer. Ahhh, well... It's just business.
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- Krew: Hello nearly friends, and mostly enemies. If you are listening to this message then I must be dead. (shrugs shoulders) Oh well... As you all know, I loved racing almost as much as I loved weapons. Alas, I never fufilled my living dream of winning the biggest race of all, the Kras City Grand Championship! But even in death, I will field the greatest racing team ever assembled and win the biggest race on the planet! You are the best of the best, and you will race for me...
- Torn: Never!
- Daxter: No way!
- Jak: Forget it!
- Krew: I expect you're all riled up by now, so let me tell you why you will race and you will win! If all went as planned, you just gave a touching toast in my honour. Sorry to say, but I put poison in that special vintage! [speaks more in turn] Quite unsporting of me really.
- Rayn: Father!
- Krew: This is where Rayn probably gets upset. Sorry dear... It's a slow acting poison… or you'd already be dead. [Daxter faints] You have just enough time to finish this year's racing season, if you race for me and win, my associates will provide you each with an antidote to the poison. Simple, eh?
- Samos: Keira, you're not racing. It's much too dangerous.
- Keira: But, Daddy, I can do it! I can race better than any of those guys. You know I can!
- Samos: Yes... I mean no, you can't! Well, I mean yes, you can, but that's not the point. I won't have it! A woman's place is in the garage, fixing cars! [while Keira is mouthing it to herself.]
- Rayn: My father provided everything we need to win. One of us can do it if we all...
- Ashelin: [interrupting] Your father got us into this mess, so zip it before I come over there and play "daddy"!
G.T. Blitz: Welcome back to the G.T. Blitz show! Sadly, the network has decided in their infinitesimally small wisdom to add a co-host to my show. Hmmf...I can't imagine outshining yours truly, but alas... please give a lukewarm welcome to my new "color" commentator as it were, Mister... ahem... Pecker.
Pecker: Thank you, G.T. And hello to all you peoples out there watching. I'd like to thank the network for choosing me to save this anemic little show.
Blitz: (irritated) Ha ha, yes, well, welcome aboard...Pecker.
Daxter: That's it! (jumps to feet agitated) Who's his agent? Pecker always gets the sweet gigs in these adventures...
Blitz: Come on! Do you really think Jak's got a chance? He'll soon be going up against the top pros. Nasty competition! But I'll give you the final word.
Pecker: Well, G.T....
Blitz: (interrupting) Oop, sorry, that was more tha one word. In my experienced opinion, as the competition gets tougher, I think Jak's gonna fold. That's Studio Debating 101, baby. Oh, yeah! You just got schooled!
Pecker: Birds do not school. They flock. So flock off! (Pecker flips off G.T., which is blurred out)
Keira: But to keep competitive, you'll have to modify your ride as often as possible. Maybe if you ask nicely, I'll install stuff.
Jak: Deal.
Keira: That's asking nice?
Jak: What? (Daxter smacks him on the head) I mean, it would, it would be...
Keira: Nicer...
Daxter: Will ya do it already?!
Keira: I'm a little rusty with the wrench, but I'll see to it your vehicle's in tip-top shape, make repairs after races, and make sure yours is the best purring vehicle on the circuit. And, Jak, (flirtatiously) we'll talk about "nice" later.
Rayn: But at least we're winning races. That's good.
Daxter: Good?! Listen, Rayn baby. We've been chased, attacked, shot at, poisoned, and blown up. How could it get any worse?!
Kleiver: (having just entered) Hello, ankle biters!
Daxter: It's worse.
Jak: Right, did you put on two coats of wax or just one?
Daxter: One... But that'll make it go faster right?
Jak: The death threats and bounties don't scare us. We're not afraid to die.
Daxter: Whoa! Freeze frame! I'd like to go on record right here that I'm firmly and officially against dying... in any way.
Torn: It's nice to be back in Haven City, hey, sweetheart?
Daxter: Torn, I'm touched.
Torn: I was talking to Ashelin.
Daxter: I knew that.
Ashelin: I smell a rat.
Daxter: Hey! I showered this morning!
Ashelin: I mean I think Krew must have been up to something.
Daxter: With soap!
Jak: You sure know your way around cars, Keira.
Keira: I can handle tools. (flirtatiously) But that's not all I'm good at, Jak.
- Jak: All for one...
- Ashelin: And one (for all... and) right in the groin.
- Mizo: You have a habit of leaving people to die, don't you?
- Jak: You get used to it.
- Daxter: The important thing is we won. And we're alive.
- Sig: And we brought down that scumbag, Mizo.
- Daxter: AND we rocked the racing circuit! Right, Jak? I said, RIGHT, JAK? (Jak and Keira move to kiss each other) HEY! (they both glare at him) Will ya kiss her already? Sheeeeesh! (Keira pulls Jak close and kisses him) Oh, yeah. That's what I call a photo finish.


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Swedish captain Zlatan Ibrahimovic believes the time is right for England counterpart Steven Gerrard to move from Liverpool and join "a big international club."
Ibrahimovic is a big admirer of the midfielder who is poised to win his 100th cap in Wednesday's international between the two countries to mark the opening of the Friends Arena in Stockholm. But he feels Gerrard should make the break from Anfield after more than a decade of loyal service to the Reds.
Ibrahimovic said: "I think Steven Gerrard is respected throughout Europe. I know so because he is always the player the coach says be careful with because he is the one that makes the difference. But, although of course Liverpool is a big club, I would like to see Steven at a big international club."
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Hi all,
I am a hammock newbie... 7 nights hanging in total so far. And 4 of those I just did on a property in country NSW Australia.
I thought I would share a few simple things I discovered so far and I am hoping other people might join in with tips they would like to share. They aren't necessarily about hammock gear, more just common sense stuff I discovered.
1. If you sleep in your clothes, make sure your pockets are empty or you will end up sleeping on the contents (keys, changes, carribeners, beer lids).
2. Have as little additional clothing (and other stuff) in the hammock when you go to sleep. It ends up all over the place and not as comfortable.
3. A small platform (log or big rock) to elevate your stove makes 'breakfast from the hammock' a lot easier.


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Leonard Lee Pittman
FRITCH - Leonard Lee Pittman, 79, of Fritch, died May 11, 2011, in Amarillo. Funeral services will be 10:00 a.m. Saturday at Trinity Nazarene Church in Borger with Rev. Dale Pierce and Rev. J. W. Frazier officiating. Burial will be 2:30 p.m. Saturday at Ochiltree Cemetery in Perryton under the direction of Minton/Chatwell Funeral Directors of Fritch.Leonard was born Nov. 19, 1931, at Gray, Okla., to Amcy and Ethel Pittman. He married Johnnie Mills on Nov. 20, 1949, at Perryton. He worked for Fasco Industry as a industrial mechanic for 18 yrs. He farmed and was involved in his church. He was a pilot and loved to fly and soloed at 21 years of age. He helped build a Vari-EZE airplane with a friend in the 1980s. He received his pilot's license in Colorado. He was preceded in death by his parents, five brothers, two sisters and one grandson.He is survived by his wife Johnnie of the home, son Terrell and wife Lisa of Bella Vista, Ark., daughters, Kathy Thompson and husband Jerry of Bella Vista, Ark. Sherri Hollis of Leavenworth, Kan., eight Grandchildren and 12 great-grandchildren.Visitation will be Friday from 6 p.m. to 8 p.m. at the funeral home in Fritch. Memorials may be made to Gideons or Odyssey Hospice, 5900 W. Interstate 40, #150, Amarillo 79106.To send condolences, sign the online guestbook at www.mintonchatwell.com.


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Is it fair?
The increasingly sophisticated multimedia presentations depict victims from cradle to grave, often with soft music in the background, tugging on the heartstrings of jurors. Defense lawyers say the videos are highly prejudicial and have sought to have them banned.(We discussed the cert. denials here.)
But the Supreme Court this month declined to hear challenges to two such videos, including one of Sara Weir, a dark-eyed 19-year-old who was raped and murdered in 1993. The video contains more than 90 photos of Weir and is set to the haunting tones of Enya.
Prosecutors vigorously defend the videos, which are presented as part of "victim impact evidence" in death penalty and non-capital homicides and are usually put together by families, sometimes with help from law enforcement or funeral homes. With defendants able to present extensive "mitigating evidence," prosecutors say multimedia is often the best way to document the life that was extinguished and the pain of those left behind.But of course there is a limit:
"You're talking about 20 minutes that actually lets the jury see these people walking and breathing and moving," said Matt Murphy, an Orange County, Calif., prosecutor.... "I can see why these videos drive defense lawyers crazy because they actually balance things out"....
Evan Young, the lawyer who failed to persuade the Supreme Court to take up the Weir video challenge, said she thinks they tilt the scales against defendants. "Without limits on the use of this technology," she wrote in her brief, "capital trials become theatrical venues, and the determination whether a defendant receives a death sentence turns on the skill of a videographer."
Until the early 1990s, victims and family members rarely testified about the impact of a crime, having been held back by a series of Supreme Court rulings that said such testimony would violate the defendant's constitutional rights. A 1991 Supreme Court decision reversed the prohibition, a key milestone for advocates who say victims have historically felt marginalized by the criminal justice system.So the question is whether the Supreme Court should set more detailed rules. Was that video about Jesse Heller too much? If you say yes, do you think that the Supreme Court can come up with constitutional law specifying how many photographs or how many minutes of photographs are "unduly prejudicial"? Should it be said that the Constitution forbids pop songs?
Writing for a 6 to 3 majority, then-Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist said prosecutors could balance the virtually unlimited defense mitigation evidence by offering "a quick glimpse of the life" of the victim. But the court laid out little specific guidance beyond saying that victim impact evidence must not be "unduly prejudicial."


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[Top row: Fans at a Klaxons concert. Bottom row: Fans at a Bob Dylan concert]
Have you ever replicated your musical icons style? When I was younger, I wanted to dress like Curtis Mayfield, but couldn't find the right clothes (I'd never heard of a vintage store back then). It's probably for the best, as dressing like this when everyone was into So Solid Crew wouldn't have been the best idea. This James Mollision exhibition features people who have styled themselves on their idols and is called The Disciples.


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Not only is the University of Florida men's basketball team back in action, 10 former Gators have been on the court for two weeks with their respective NBA teams.
Bradley Beal, Washington Wizards
Over the past week, Bradley Beal has emerged as the leading scorer for the Washington Wizards. Beal averaged 15.8 ppg in four games last week. He tallied a season-high 22 points against Milwaukee on Friday, November 9.
Matt Bonner, San Antonio Spurs
Bonner played in two games for the Spurs last week. He is averaging 2.8 ppg in six games played this season.
Corey Brewer, Denver Nuggets
Brewer has continued to be a solid contributor for the Nuggets this season. He has played in every game this year and is averaging 11.1 ppg and 3.9 rpg. Brewer matched a career-best with five three-point field goals against Utah on Friday, November 9.
Udonis Haslem, Miami Heat
Through eight games, Haslem is averaging 4.4 ppg and 4.6 rpg. In the Heat's latest game, Haslem recorded 10 points and seven rebounds.
Al Horford, Atlanta Hawks
Horford leads the Hawks in scoring and rebounding, averaging 14.8 ppg and 8.7 rpg. In the Hawks' latest game, Horford notched his second double-double of this season with 15 points and 10 boards.
David Lee, Golden State Warriors
Lee continues to lead the Warriors in rebounding through seven games, pulling down 9.9 rpg. He is currently tied for 11th in the league in rebounds per game. Lee is also averaging 14.3 ppg. Through six games, he has recorded three double-doubles.
Mike Miller, Miami Heat
Miller has played in every game but one so far this year for Miami. He is averaging 1.4 ppg, 2.0 rpg, and 1.1 apg in seven games of action. Miller logged a season-high 31 minutes against Atlanta on Friday, November 9.
Joakim Noah, Chicago Bulls
Through seven games, Noah leads the Bulls in rebounding, steals, and blocks. Noah is averaging 15.3 ppg, 9.4 rpg, 1.4 spg, and 2.3 bpg. He is currently 11th in the NBA in blocks per game. In the Bulls' latest outing, Noah recorded his third double-double of the season with 17 points and 11 rebounds.
Chandler Parsons, Houston Rockets
Parsons has started all seven games for the Rockets this season. He is averaging 12.3 ppg, 5.9 rpg, and 3.7 apg. In the Houston's last game, Parsons led the team in scoring with 25 points.
Marresse Speights, Memphis Grizzlies
Speights has played in every game for Memphis this season, averaging 7.8 ppg and 5.7 rpg. Against Milwaukee on Wednesday, November 7, Speights registered a season-high 18 points and nine rebounds.
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ISRA Confident Appeals Court Ruling On Concealed Carry Will Stand
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Jan. 8, 2013 10:37 PM
SPRINGFIELD, Ill., Jan. 8, 2013 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- The following is a statement released today by Illinois State Rifle Association (ISRA) Executive Director Richard Pearson. Mr. Pearson's statement comes in response to news that Illinois Attorney General Madigan has petitioned the full 7th Circuit Court of Appeals to review the court's earlier ruling that overturned Illinois' ban on citizens carrying concealed firearms.
"The ISRA is not at all surprised to learn that Attorney General Madigan is seeking a review of the court's earlier decision. As a plaintiff in the original case, Shepard v. Madigan, the ISRA is confident that we had a good case and that the merits of our case guided the court to its decision to overturn the ban on concealed firearms. We are equally confident that the full appeals court will find that the 3-member panel acted properly in overturning the ban and will thus uphold the decision. Like many others, the plaintiffs in this case are looking forward to the day when all law-abiding Illinois citizens will have the opportunity to enhance their personal safety by carrying defensive firearms."
The ISRA is the state's leading advocate of safe, lawful and responsible firearms ownership. For more than a century, the ISRA has represented the interests of millions of law-abiding Illinois firearm owners.
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SOURCE Illinois State Rifle Association
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MAPP Basics - Introduction to the MAPP Process
"Coming together is the beginning. Keeping together is progress. Working together is success." – Henry Ford
What is MAPP?
Mobilizing for Action through Planning and Partnerships (MAPP) is a strategic approach to community health improvement. This tool helps communities improve health and quality of life through community-wide strategic planning. Using MAPP, communities seek to achieve optimal health by identifying and using their resources wisely, taking into account their unique circumstances and needs, and forming effective partnerships for strategic action.
The MAPP tool was developed by NACCHO in cooperation with the Public Health Practice Program Office, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). A work group composed of local health officials, CDC representatives, community representatives, and academicians developed MAPP between 1997 and 2000. The vision for implementing MAPP is:
"Communities achieving improved health and quality of life by mobilizing partnerships and taking strategic action."
The following seven principles are integral to the successful implementation of MAPP:
Benefits of Undertaking MAPP
Below are just some of the benefits to be derived from the MAPP process.
The Elements of MAPP
The MAPP tool was designed to include the following key elements.
2) MAPP builds on previous experiences and lessons learned — Information from previous planning efforts and established assessment tools was used in the development of MAPP. Most notably, MAPP builds on the Assessment Protocol for Excellence in Public Health (APEXPH). Released in 1991, APEXPH has guided hundreds of local health departments through internal organizational capacity assessments and collaborative community health assessment processes. While building on the familiar concepts of APEXPH, MAPP is more progressive in a variety of ways:
3) MAPP uses traditional strategic planning concepts within its model — Strategic planning assists communities in more effectively securing resources, matching needs with assets, responding to external circumstances, anticipating and managing change, and establishing a long-range direction for the community. The MAPP model includes basic strategic planning concepts, such as visioning, an environmental scan, the identification of strategic issues, and the formulation of strategies.
4) MAPP focuses on the creation and strengthening of the local public health system — Local public health systems are defined by MAPP as the "human, informational, financial, and organizational resources, including public, private, and voluntary organizations and individuals, that contribute to the public''s health." This focus is important because "the public''s health depends on the interaction of many factors; thus, the health of a community is a shared responsibility of many entities, organizations, and interests in the community" (Institute of Medicine, Improving Health in the Community). The MAPP process brings these diverse interests together to collaboratively determine the most effective way to conduct public health activities.
5) MAPP creates governmental public health leadership — While MAPP focuses on the local public health system, it is anticipated that governmental public health entities will take leadership roles in initiating MAPP in their communities. Thus, MAPP will help to create a greater recognition of the important roles governmental entities—such as local health departments, boards of health, and environmental agencies—play in their communities.
6) MAPP uses the Essential Public Health Services to define public health activities — The Essential Public Health Services and other public health practice concepts have been incorporated into MAPP, providing much-needed links with other public health initiatives. The Essential Public Health Services are a list of 10 public health activities that should be undertaken in all jurisdictions. (See Backgrounder – The Essential Public Health Services.) The use of the Essential Services framework and the focus on the local public health system provides a crucial link with the National Public Health Performance Standards (NPHPS), being developed by CDC, NACCHO, and other national public health organizations. The local-level instrument of the NPHPS is an integral part of MAPP''s Local Public Health System Assessment.
7) MAPP brings four assessments together to drive the development of a community strategic plan — Four unique and comprehensive assessments gather information to drive the identification of strategic issues.
How Does MAPP Work?
MAPP includes two graphics that illustrate the process communities will undertake. Both graphics display the MAPP process, but in different ways.
The MAPP guidance was developed to be practical and user-friendly. Two products provide information about the MAPP process:
The MAPP guidance is intended to serve as a best practice model. MAPP should be implemented in the manner that best fits the needs of the community. Vignettes and tip sheets provide suggestions and ideas for tailoring the process. As MAPP is implemented across the nation, NACCHO intends to develop further recommendations and tips for customizing the process.
While it is presented as a phase-by-phase approach to community-wide strategic planning, MAPP represents a continuous process in which phases often reflect back on one another. Community-driven strategic planning is not a sequential activity and is most successful when it is interwoven with the activities of local public health system partners in a sustained manner.
Finally, it is worth restating that MAPP must be a community-driven process. There should be a high level of participation from community organizations and residents. The dialogue principles, discussed in the Tip Sheet – Engaging the Community, should guide community and stakeholder involvement. Boards of health and other governing bodies are especially crucial to a community-wide strategic planning effort, since they are necessary in implementing policy changes or making resource allocation decisions.
MAPP is intended to lead communities to an unprecedented union among the community organizations, agencies, groups, and individuals that comprise the local public health system. Through broad ownership, communities can create an effort that is sustainable, builds on collective wisdom, uses resources from throughout the community, and, ultimately, leads to community health improvement.


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To the editor:
I would like to formally submit an idea to the general public that has been bandied about for quite some time now, but has never come to fruition. An idea, which if implemented, will better serve the citizens of Cape Coral in all aspects of city government.
This idea is to formally classify the seats of all council districts, and the mayor, as full-time positions along with matching full-time salaries to accompany such a change in designation. I know that the sitting members, (as well as previous members), already view their positions as full time, regardless of designation it now holds. Yet, because of the compensation now in place many, (both past and present), simply can't devote the time they would like to to the city's business. Regardless of how well intentioned and determined they may be, time is simply at a premium. This is due solely to the fact that they must make a living outside of their elected responsibilities in order to support their families. This is a very understandable mindset. After all, one must make sure their respective family's needs are met concerning the everyday expenses which arise. Sixteen thousand dollars per year just doesn't cut it, pure and simple.
If we, as citizens, can remove such a burden from the minds of sitting members aren't we also benefitting ourselves in the long run? We would then enjoy sitting members who would essentially be freed up to delve into any and all governance issues, while also allowing each member the luxury of the time needed to devote to such issues. This would also prove to be a benefit in other ways. First and foremost is the effect a change such as this would have on the pool of prospective candidates. It would grow by leaps and bounds. Let's be honest, whether it be intentional or unintentional, the way our system is now tailored it is set up to draw interest from a majority of those individuals who are already enjoying a pension, or are already retired. A respectable full-time salary would serve to draw in a bevy of younger candidates, as well as the fresh ideas they can bring with them regarding their views on governing. It would also serve to draw in the accomplished and well-respected retirees who were once at the top of their fields. Increasing the pool of potential candidates can only prove to be advantageous for the electorate.
I propose the salary be no less than $75,000 per year for council district members, and $85,000 per year for the mayoral seat. Yes, I know it is quite a leap from what they now receive, but the upside is enormous regarding the time which would be freed up to deal with city business. Not to mention the precious time which could then be devoted to the representation of our city outside of its boundaries. Each member would be required to report to work every day, all day, without exception. The criteria for these changes pertaining to the seat of council members/mayor would be clearly spelled out for all potential candidates to contemplate prior to running. It would be made crystal clear that this is a full-time seat, and if someone desires it they would be expected to devote a full-time effort to such an elected position. Caveats would be in place to remove any member who did not adhere to such demands. After all, we want nothing less than what I am proposing we pay for.
The current mantra is everyone stating they want to move forward as a city. An integral part of that process includes "growing up" as a city and having full-time members on our council. All other cities which have attained any worthwhile stature to speak of have such a structure. So, if we want to move forward, to grow, and to prosper, let's do it right if we're going to do it at all. As I like to say, if you're going to be a bear, be a grizzly bear! Let's stop being teddy bears.
Jim Angiulo
Cape Coral


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Continue the talk in here guys.
Here is a link to one of the many Osuna articles: http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/201...o_osuna_debut/
Continue the talk in here guys.
Here is a link to one of the many Osuna articles: http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/201...o_osuna_debut/
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Kind of crazy that a guy who is still probably 3-4 years away is our most talked about prospect right now. We should have our minds set on higher up guys like d'Arnaud, but instead we are so enamored with Osuna.
I'm mostly excited about the Lansing 3, most notably Sanchez. Wish they could get here quicker.
and the Lansing 3 have been discussed ad nauseum
If you want to switch pace, Matt Dean had a killer week with the bat (7/16 with 2 HR, 2B, 3 K - included a 4/4 game)
or we could talk about John Stilson, on whom I recently completed a scouting report, with full report on mechanics/stuff/poise in this link
orrrrrrrrr we could talk about DJ Davis, who has been doing pretty well lately. Also wrote a little piece on him the other nightStilson did not pitch after signing as he was completing a 6-week rehabilitation program for a torn labrum. However, he has surged through the Blue Jays' system in his first season of professional ball. First, he was aggressively assigned to Advanced-A Dunedin, and after he had tremendous success, was promoted to AA New Hampshire.
The results at AA, however, have been mixed. While he has enjoyed successful stretches, he has also endured a few tough outings. This inconsistency has manifested in a 4.85 ERA, despite a decent K rate, 7.38/9, and BB rate, 3.92/9. Stilson has been hit harder during his stint with New Hampshire than he was with Dunedin. He has given far more line drives and induced fewer ground balls. Much of that, I believe, can be attributed to his lacking of an individualized plan for each batter. Stilson needs to learn to pitch, rather than rely on his stuff alone to get batters out.
When I watched Stilson, he did not mix his pitches particularly well, throwing multiple breaking pitches in a row, or tossing hittable fastballs in favorable counts. In addition, his fastball command was inconsistent. Despite solid control, his fastball often ended up in the bat path of the hitter, and consequently, was hit hard.
D.J. Davis is fast – that much we know. Whenever one's name is mentioned in the same breath as Billy Hamilton – he of the 113 stolen bases on the year – one will be well known and highly touted for one's speed alone. On the 20-80 scouting scale, Davis, like Hamilton, ranks out at an 80.
However, what propelled the draft status of Blue Jays' center field prospect D.J. Davis was a developing bat. He has shown the ability to be more than just a slap hitter; rather, he has demonstrated surprising power both in his final year of high school and thus far in his professional career for the Blue Jays.
Last edited by Dol-Fan; 07-30-2012 at 08:44 PM.
or we can continue talking about my boy Robertooooooooooooooooooooooo Osunaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! *in my michael buffer voice*
Anyone know when Osuna makes his next start? He pitched on Saturday so 5 games later would be Friday with the one off day, but I was thinking they might have a different rotational schedule in A ball.
I'd love to see him in person!
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Look who's back from Japan?! Randy Ruiz and he's mashing again.
14HRs in 181ABs for ARI's PCL team. Hitting .331 with a 1.019 OPS. I always liked him. At 34 he'll probably never make it to the majors again though.
Hey! It'S JoeyBatS
Now that Thames and Snider are gone...I just relised that besides TDA, Sierra and McDade we are weak on mashers on the farm.
I know everything is about high OPS now a days but, I'd like to see some HRs hitters who could hit 30-40+ and take 70+ walks. If they hit .240-.260 and stike-out a ton...so be it.
I wouldn't mind seeing AA trading 1 of the Lansing 3 (or more) for a masher like Matt Adams, Wil Myers, Anthony Rizzo, Mike Olt, George Springer, Miles Head.
Hey! It'S JoeyBatS
The first guy that came to mind was Adam Dunn. In 2010 he hit 38 HR, took 77 walks, hit 0.260 and struck out over 30% of the time. He OPS'd 0.892, good for 17th best in the entire league and therefore an elite player that year.
2012-2013 Offseason Shopping List
1. Starting Pitcher - Josh Johnson
2. Second Baseman - Maicer Izturis
3. Left Fielder - Melky Cabrera
4. Starting Pitcher - Mark Buehrle
5. Designated Hitter
6. Backup Infielder - Emilio Bonifacio
7. Replace Alvarez - R.A. Dickey (!)
Jays could have had Rizzo in the off-season for peanuts...Cubs gave up virtually nobody for him. Was pounding on the doors for the Jays to get him. Would have taken literally Deck McGuire and a utility outfield prospect like the Cubs gave up for Rizzo.
Meh, look to the future now...Lind potentially cost the Jays a young inexpensive prospect in Rizzo unfortunately
Last edited by Sanyo; 07-31-2012 at 09:22 AM.
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