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Margaret Moffat Young, an East Hampton real estate agent who served as a nurse's aide during World War II, died on Jan. 27 in Lancaster, Pa. She was 88 and had Alzheimer's disease.
She was born on Sept. 18, 1924, to John Gilchrist Moffat and the former Jane Scull. She attended the Knox School in Scranton, Pa., and Vassar College in Poughkeepsie, N.Y. She married John Dowdney in 1947. They lived in New York and summered in East Hampton.
She later married Nigel Young of Glasgow, Scotland, who served with the Royal Air Force and received the Distinguished Flying Cross for his service in World War II. The couple lived in London for three years beginning in 1959 and then settled in East Hampton. Mr. Young died in 1988.
In 1946 she went overseas as a counselor with the Maclannet Committee for Aid to French War Orphans.
Mrs. Young was involved in Republican politics and served as chairwoman of the Women's Division of the New York State Citizens for Eisenhower. She also worked for the Long Island campaign to elect Richard Nixon.
After leaving Vassar she got a job as a relocation consultant for the Homerica Corporation, a mortgage broker in New York City. She helped find houses for corporate customers, work that prepared her for a career in real estate. She was active in the Friends of the Philharmonic and the Junior League of New York.
After marrying Mr. Young in 1965, they joined the Edward F. Cook firm in East Hampton. They later founded Woods Lane Estate Agents, and then Young and Company, which operated throughout the late 1970s and through the 1980s. Young and Company was folded into the Allan M. Schneider agency after Mr. Young's death.
In East Hampton she served on the executive committee of the town and village and worked with the Ladies Village Improvement Society. She moved to Lancaster in 2002.
Mrs. Young is survived by three children, Lisa Dowdney of Leadville, Colo., Deborah Seaman of Eagle, Colo., and James Young of East Hampton. She leaves Luisa Castillo of East Hampton, a dear friend she thought of as a daughter, and a sister, Jane Mueller of Lancaster. She is also survived by five grandchildren and five great-grandchildren.
Memorial contributions were suggested for the Ladies Village Improvement Society, 95 Main Street, East Hampton 11937. A memorial service will be held starting at noon on May 4 at St. Luke's Episcopal Church in East Hampton. The Rev. Denis Brunelle will officiate. Mrs. Young was buried in the church cemetery.


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Yesterday was the big day! Our closing appointment was pretty short and a bit anti-climactic. We signed a bunch of papers and then our real estate agent sort of tossed the key over to us. And that was that! I guess I thought there would be a bit more fanfare, celebration, ribbons, balloons... We did have a little celebration: our real estate agent treated us to some tasty snacks at A Baker's Wife's Pastry Shop after we closed.
Then after some other paper work and errands we got down to business. I hung a painting on the wall and we plugged in the phone. That's when we realized how very few plugins are in the house. The phone line is stretched from the back wall and the plug-in cord is stretched from the wall on the right! We might just have to go with our simple phone that doesn't require electricity...
Then, Jeremy got started on a little earth moving. We need to do a little regrading around the house because it slopes toward the house in some areas instead of away. One of our bigger projects...
While he was doing that I worked on moving all the accumulated brush (which is now on the left) away from the fence where we will be putting the compost bins. Hopefully today!
All the brush will be going away - thank goodness the city just started picking up yard waste again.
Chicken permit update: we got a friend who speaks Spanish really well to go with us to the house across the alley and help us communicate with the woman there. Ellen did a great job! It was sort of sad though because the woman shared that she is from Mexico and they used to have chickens and other animals, which she loves. They have lived here ten years and they can't have animals because they rent. She will be sad that there will be chickens nearby and they aren't hers. We'll definitely have to invite her over to visit the chickens.
Today is moving day and I think we only got one volunteer - so, it may be a long day!
Saturday, April 11, 2009
House projects begin
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2 comments:
- Paul said...
Congratulations! I think it's so cool you found a house right next door. Now the real fun begins...
Consider recruiting your Mexican neighbors for chicken duties when you're out for the night or gone for a weekend. We have neighbors who are happy to help out, and it's a huge relief knowing your don't have to worry about the birds when you're gone. Payment is simple - keep the eggs when you open the coop for the morning!
- April 13, 2009 at 9:27 AM
- Tam said...
Welcome home owners!
We regraded some land last year. It is a big project, but it's very satisfying to look at when you're all done.
I like your house. It has that big, old house feel.
- April 13, 2009 at 12:19 PM
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LAX: An inside look at the new Tom Bradley International Terminal
The Tom Bradley International Terminal at LAX officially opened Wednesday, mostly. Airlines started using the new, smarter gates that can handle big aircraft, including the Airbus A380s. Inside, Southern California scenes and quirky videos played on seven huge multimedia features while passengers relaxed at the lounge-like seating in the Great Hall or shopped in the 25,000-square-foot duty-free shop. Many restaurants and high-ends shops weren't yet open, but officials say they'll be rolled out in coming weeks. Here's a look at the terminal's new $1.9-billion upgrade, a project that won't be completely finished until 2015.
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New Training Method Prepares Soldiers for Battlefield
Inside a non-descript, soundproof building on the south side of Rolla, researchers from Missouri University of Science of Technology are building an audio battlefield, complete with the sounds of tanks, ordnance, gunfire, shouting and helicopters. Called an immersive audio environment, the testbed facility is leading the way in an effort to better prepare soldiers for combat.
"When soldiers train in a classroom and learn how to perform different tasks, that's very different than when they get on the battlefield and suddenly there's a cacophony of warfare going off all around them," explains Dr. Steven Grant, the Roy A. Wilkens Missouri Telecommunications Professor at Missouri S&T. "By training soldiers in an immersive auditory experience, they will be better able to complete their tasks quickly and efficiently when they get into a combat situation."
In the United States, very few immersive audio environments exist, and the ones that do are experimental in nature, expensive and inaccessible to the general military trainee. In Rolla, 64 loudspeakers hang on a truss system. Eighty-hertz subwoofers shake the ground while the sounds of combat scenarios are recreated by varying the volume between triangles of speakers.
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P. Allen Smith searches the suburbs of Chicago and finds a front yard filled with edible flora. Allen also makes a stop at the nation's first certified organic rooftop farm. Back in Arkansas Allen demonstrates Plus, a tablescape design from a 19th century plantation home.
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MISSOULA, Mont. — A Montana woman was sentenced Thursday to 30 years in prison for killing her husband of eight days by pushing him from a cliff in Glacier National Park while they argued about her second thoughts about the marriage.
U.S. District Judge Donald Molloy said he saw no remorse from Jordan Graham, 22, in the killing of 25-year-old Cody Johnson. He also ordered her to pay $17,000 in restitution.
Prosecutors said Graham lured Johnson to a steep cliff in Glacier Park on July 7 and pushed him over, then lied repeatedly to investigators in an attempt to cover up the crime.
She pleaded guilty to second-degree murder just before closing arguments during her December trial, but tried unsuccessfully to retract that plea after prosecutors recommended a prison term of 50 years to life.
Prosecutors dropped a first-degree murder charge and a count of making a false statement to authorities when Graham changed her plea.
Before he accepted her plea in December, the judge asked Graham to tell him what happened.
Graham said she decided to confront her husband about her marriage doubts, but she did not know how he would take it. She said the couple climbed down a treacherous slope below a popular spot in the park called The Loop and spoke on a narrow ledge, hundreds of feet above a ravine.
She told Johnson she was unhappy. They argued, and at one point, she said, he grabbed her by the arm, and she thought he was going to pull her.
She told the judge she got angry at Johnson, brushed his hand away, then pushed him, with one hand on his arm and one on his back.
"I wasn't thinking about where we were. ... I just pushed," Graham said.
She said she then drove back to her home in Kalispell.
Johnson was reported missing July 8 when he failed to show up for work.
Graham initially told investigators that Johnson left their house July 7 with unknown friends. But Johnson's friends testified they were suspicious of the story and suspected Graham played a role in his disappearance.
Graham showed police a fabricated email — purportedly from a friend of Johnson — that said Johnson was dead and to call off the search.
She later told Glacier rangers she had found Johnson's body near The Loop because it was a place he wanted to see before he died. Ultimately, Graham acknowledged she was with Johnson on the cliff after investigators confronted her with a security camera photo of the couple entering the park.
Prosecutors presented jurors dozens of text messages between Graham and a friend from church, Kimberly Martinez, that documented how Graham's nervous excitement at the prospect of the wedding turned into despair over the week that followed.
Graham's attorneys tried to chip away at the prosecution's depiction of her as a cold, dispassionate woman who didn't want to marry Johnson, as well as their contention that she deliberately pushed him to his death. They also showed jurors videos of the couple's June 29 wedding and their first dance.
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Marouane Fellaini tells Manchester United David Moyes will not give them easy ride
Marouane Fellaini has warned Manchester United's players they will not get an easy ride under new boss David Moyes.
Last Updated: 24/05/13 10:49am
Moyes' predecessor Sir Alex Ferguson was renowned for his toughness, handing out frequent "hairdryer treatments" to those who were not meeting his demands.
Fellaini - who played under Moyes for four years at Goodison Park - says that any United player hoping for a more relaxed atmosphere around Old Trafford will be disappointed.
The Belgium international - who is being linked with a summer move to United - discovered first hand what happens when Moyes is upset when he was suspended for headbutting Stoke's Ryan Shawcross.
"He is a decent man, a great manager, but believe me he can be tough. If you want to win something, to create a good team you have to be hard sometimes with the players - football is like this," Fellaini told reporters. "He can be scary.
"I remember when I was banned after the Stoke game, he gave everyone the day off - everyone: The players, the entire staff - but I came to the training camp to do a training session with him.
"It was just me and him, and it is not easy to go into the camp to face him like that.
"I understood, because I knew I had made a mistake, but you know it's not easy when you know you have let him down. Just going in there knowing you have to look him in the eye was hard!
"He put me through a tough session... it was a full-on session, running, shooting, passing, everything and very intense, and afterwards I was upset.
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Is the Persian Gulf unlabeled? Is it labeled "Gulf" (sounds stupid, but no reason for a lawsuit)? Is it labeled something else?
Is the Persian Gulf unlabeled? Is it labeled "Gulf" (sounds stupid, but no reason for a lawsuit)? Is it labeled something else?
It's labeled Israeli Freedom Pond.
It is unlabeled. Several of the bodies of water, including the smaller and neighboring Gulf of Oman, and around the Arabian peninsula, the Gulf of Aden and the Red Sea are all labelled.
No. Google is moving to a sponsorship system. It is now "The Persian Gulf, brought to you by Budweiser".
You make a good point. I searched for "BP Gulf" and that region is clearly well defined already.
It's unlabelled. Looks like Google is trying to avoid a controversy I didn't even know existed. Apparently some Arabs want it renamed the "Arabian Gulf."
It's got a big banner that says, "Getting first post is more important than adding to the discussion".
But I'm sure you knew that already.
Who defined correct?
The CIA is not an authority on the correct naming of anything outside of US borders, and especially not on the other side of the planet. The UN really isn't either; why should countries far removed from your own get to name bodies of water that border your country? I don't see how the IHO has any authority either. And private companies certainly aren't authorities on geopolitical matters either.
The only people who have a real right to name things are people in the area that geographical feature is. Here
I thought the Iranians were complaining about Google not naming it the Arabian Gulf. Looks like I had it backwards.
That's what I thought but apparently some stuff will always get through.
Is the Persian Gulf unlabeled?
Yes, although if you search for "Persian Gulf", it takes you right there to where the label would be, exactly as when you search for the (labelled) "Gulf of California".
Oh it's on ____.
I had to check and sure enough the Persian Gulf isn't labeled. So I did the obvious thing and scrolled over to China and saw that Taiwan was labeled Taiwan.
As far as geopolitics go, I think keeping China happy by not provoking them on the Taiwan issue is far more important than ticking off Iran by not labeling the Persian Gulf.
I couldn't even fathom why this was an issue, but google brought up this link about a naming dispute [wikipedia.org] which Iran apparently takes quite seriously. So, if the goal was to piss off and humiliate Iran, wouldn't Google have labeled it the Arabian Gulf?
What does China (People's Republic of China) call the island of Taiwan if not Taiwan? Formosa?
If they want to avoid pissing off China (PRC) they would avoid labeling Taiwan as the "Republic of China", which they have.
It's labeled as an independent country, which I assure you is the essence of the dispute.
No, it's a "region". All the countries are "regions", but not all "regions" are necessarily countries. It's a great weasel word for people who want to reach some sort of consensus (i.e. on "country codes") without being able to resolve 50 year old conflicts. Taiwan also has its own "country code" (.tw), because it is an independent country, dependent territory, or special area of geographical interest - and the beauty is you don't have to say which.
Seriously, Microsoft has had employees detained in China because they didn't make this sort of thing clear enough.
No, it's a "region". All the countries are "regions", but not all "regions" are necessarily countries.
Huh. So are there any "regions" which aren't "countries" according to people who don't have a vested political interest in them not being countries, or is this literally a "Let's make China happy" weasel?
Alaska is a region and not a country. It's part of a larger country, the USA, but on Google Maps, it only says "Alaska" and draws the border separating it from Canada. The "Alaska" font is smaller than the "Canada" font however.
Svalbard is also a region (and island chain), and not a country. It's owned by Norway, but Google Maps only shows "Svalbard". And the font is just as big as those used for other European countries.
The ownership of both these regions is not in dispute (except maybe by Sarah Palin'
So I did the obvious thing and scrolled over to China and saw that Taiwan was labeled Taiwan.
PRC does not have a problem with the term "Taiwan" as such, because it's just the name of the island. They only get a fit if you call it "Republic of China", or otherwise state or imply that it's a sovereign country.
If you want another example where a name is omitted on Google Maps for what looks like political reasons, try Sea of Japan.
or otherwise state or imply that it's a sovereign country.
Which, as I should have clarified, is exactly what they've done. Taiwan is labeled as an independent country. Contrast with Puerto Rico or any of the islands that make up the Philippines to see the difference.
When I look at it in Google Maps, I actually see the localized Chinese label, so I don't know what it says. But it doesn't look like a country label - it's slightly bolded, and larger than other labels, but e.g. Hong Kong is labelled in exact same font size/weight. And labels for individual US states and Canadian provinces are even more prominent.
The only reliable indicator of whether it's a country or not on Google Maps seems to be the way borders are drawn - borders between states are solid, while those b
When I look at it in Google Maps, I actually see the localized Chinese label, so I don't know what it says. But it doesn't look like a country label - it's slightly bolded, and larger than other labels, but e.g. Hong Kong is labelled in exact same font size/weight.
Then it's localized to also not be a country (or just more confusing with Chinese characters). On my Google Maps it's the exact same font as everything that is a country and nothing that isn't. It is very clear that it is treated as a country.
One interesting thing I've noticed is that it seems to depend on whether I enable WebGL or not. When it's enabled, it seems that labels are drawn client-side, and then the label for Taiwan is just as big as for China. Without WebGL, the labels are part of the tile images, and there it's the same size as Hong Kong, and smaller than China.
I wonder if it also depends on the language for the labels. For me, all labels show in the local language - i.e. in Chinese for China, in Japanese for Japan, in English for
On the drop-down menu in the upper-right of Google Maps, where you would pick Satellite/Maps/Photos/etc, one of the options I have is a checkbox labeled 'English' which determines if the labels show up in English or their local language.
This is pretty confusing with Japanese prefecture boundaries/labels and 'ward' boundaries/labels as well.
No, it's not. Take a look at Svalbard.
Why isn't my time zone highlighted on the world map? [msdn.com]
In the original release of Windows 95, you could change your time zone by clicking on the map, and the time zone you selected would highlight. Similarly, you could change your Region Settings by clicking on the world map. This was one of those little touches that made Windows 95 that much more fun to use.
But we had to remove those features within months of release, even though we based both of the maps on the borders officially recognized by the United Nations.
In early 1995, a border war broke out between Peru and Ecuador and the Peruvian government complained to Microsoft that the border was incorrectly placed. Of course, if we complied and moved the border northward, we'd get an equally angry letter from the Ecuadorian government demanding that we move it back. So we removed the feature altogether.
The time zone map met a similar fate. The Indian government threatened to ban all Microsoft software from the country because we assigned a disputed region to Pakistan in the time zone map. (Any map that depicts an unfavorable border must bear a government stamp warning the end-user that the borders are incorrect. You can't stamp software.) We had to make a special version of Windows 95 for them.
Geopolitics is a very sensitive subject.
Google gets entangled in Taiwan-China dispute [msn.com]
Google Inc.'s popular online mapping service has become entangled in a long-running territorial dispute between China and Taiwan.
Until recently, Google's maps described Taiwan as a "province of China." That sparked protests from Taiwan's government, which has considered its island an independent state since ending a civil war with China more than a half-century ago.
Shortly after Taiwan's foreign ministry formally complained, the China reference abruptly disappeared from Google's Taiwan map last week. That change has provoked cries of dismay in China and talk of a possible boycott of Google's service in that country, according to Chinese media.
If I recall correctly, Microsoft also faced the same issue after they suggested Taiwan was somehow an independent nation in locale settings, but they changed it after the Chinese government complained.
Google generally takes to naming things the local term. But I knew about a naming clash for Macedonia. Apparently Google has labeled it first with its native name, then the Latin character equivalent while also including the United Nations-recognized "FYROM" (the former Yugoslavian Republic of Macedonia... yes, the "former" is capitalized correctly... it is also sorted as if it starts with a "t", because it does.)
As it's bordered roughly on half by Arabian countries and half by Persian (Iran), there's a strong case for either.
Well I suppose if you ignore everything else, including the fact that up until the 60's those Arabian countries were perfectly fine with the name, then yes, they have just a strong claim.
It has been called the Persian Gulf since around 550 BC.
But when we go to war, it's definitely with the Persian Gulf. At least twice, of course. Or is it best out of five?
Thing is, the attested use of the term "Persian Sea" or "Persian Gulf" dates back at least to the Roman Empire - and was universally used by all Western countries and all Arab countries. The idea that it should be renamed "Arabian" is a 20-century Arab nationalist rallying cry. I don't see any reason to break from historical usage to appease someone's newly-found sensitivities. When US appeared as an independent country, we didn't rename the Gulf of Mexico, for example.
When US appeared as an independent country, we didn't rename the Gulf of Mexico, for example.
Hmmm.... I smell an opportunity to score some cheap nationalist political points. It's never too late to do something retarded....
The White House, Department of Defense, the State department and the CIA beg to differ.
The Department of Defense says "Navy Looks to Bolster Capabilities in Persian Gulf" (2012):
http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=67586 [defense.gov]
The State Department notes in a briefing by Secretary of State Clinton on her visit to India in May 2012 that peace in the Persian Gulf is important:
http://translations.state.gov/st/english/texttrans/2012/05/201205085219.html#axzz1vAEAsbH0 [state.gov]
The White House's press briefing includes references to carriers in the Persian Gulf (2012):
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/04/09/press-briefing-press-secretary-jay-carney-4912/ [whitehouse.gov]
This is the CIA's World Fact Book entry for Iran. Look at the map saying "Persian Gulf".
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/ir.html [cia.gov]
The State Department shows the same map for Iran ("Persian Gulf"):
http://www.state.gov/p/nea/ci/ir/ [state.gov]
The CIA's Persian Gulf War Task Force was last reviewed and updated in January 2012.
https://www.cia.gov/library/reports/general-reports-1/gulfwar/index.htm [cia.gov]
'omitting the name Persian Gulf is (like) playing with the feelings and realities of the Iranian nation.' - Ministry spokesman Ramin Mehmanparast
To which Google replied... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkbabSAvhDg [youtube.com]
It used to be right, and then they added in an extra g for some reason. I wrote a message on the Google Maps "support" forum and never got a response. I'd say Mehmanparast just had the same experience that I did, but overreacted a little.
I mean, you'd have to be crazy to actually want to sue, wouldn't you?
Google is anti-European! There's no label on the largest lake in Europe, Lake Ladoga!
Or, you know, it could be just a cartographic layout decision, just as the lack of a label on the Persian Gulf is.
Google is even more anti-Australian than anti-European! You can't even find the Gulf of Carpentaria on a Google Maps search!
It actually turns out that there is a whole naming dispute over the Persian Gulf: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_Gulf_naming_dispute [wikipedia.org]
There's no layout decisions there, since the map is zoomable. They can always start showing the label at certain zoom levels - only they don't, even when other bodies of water of smaller size do at the same level.
Nah, it's just Google trying to dodge the bullet. If they use "Persian Gulf", then Egypt etc will get mad at them. So they don't label it either way.
I used to work for HP, and the Turkish government threatened to ban our Debian-based thin clients because one of the language options with Kurdish. Apparently, the Turks are so sensitive about the Kurds that even having the language option appear in the list was unacceptable within their country. They refuse to acknowledge the Kurds, so they try to wipe out any evidence within Turkey that they ever existed, past or present.
I forgot to mention that I believe the solution we came up with was to have a special branch in our code base that was identical to the trunk, with the single exception being that the Kurdish language was removed. We mercilessly mocked Turkey for weeks over the absurdity of their childish demands.
First they want to wipe out the Armenians, now they want to wipe out the Kurds. Those Turks sound like a bunch of jerks.
Oh, the many ways to provoke a nationalist!
I used to hang out on the Google translate forum. Every week there would be some loony nationalist who was deeply offended that
* His language was not implemented (Turks, mostly)
* His language was not implemented to his satisfaction (Lithuanians in particular. "Our language is the most complex in the world!")
* An "enemy" language was implemented ("Macedonian is not a language! It is a dialect of Bulgarian!" - said by Greeks)
* Their national anthem inexplicably got the words "God Save The Queen" inserted into them (an Irishman, memorably)
* etc.
In any case, the only explanation which they would accept was a deep conspiracy at Google to taunt and slight their proud nations.
I want to shake the hand of the guy who wrote the code that added 'god save the queen' to the Irish national anthem. That's brilliant.
How do you say 'god save the queen' in Gaelic? 'Dia shábháil banríon' according to Google translate (Irish is a language?).
In what court is Iran going so sue Google? Does Google have a presence in Iran? Or are they going to send lawyers over to the Great Satan and file in their jurisdiction? That would be hilarious -- country has feelings hurt by multinational company.
If I look on google Maps, Tibet is labelled as Tibet
omitting the name Persian Gulf is (like) playing with the feelings and realities of the Iranian nation
And therein lies the rub
The Foreign Ministry spokesman has a tiny penis, and a brain to match.
I'd kind of like to see Sasha Baron Cohen as the Dictator simply reading the public statements which have come out of Iran over the last several years -- that would be bloody hilarious. Or, totally indistinguishable from the real thing.
They threatened "legal action" but that doesn't mean they have to file suit in US courts. Iran is a sovereign nation and they follow Sharia law. The Ayatollah can issue a Fatwa to "all believers" to murder Google execs anywhere they are found.
Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatwas [wikipedia.org]
They should change their name from IRAN to IRAA. Then we would be scared of their threats. Next thing North KORAA will be taking legal action against the New York Times for referring to them as a "Stalinist dictatorship " [1.]
1. http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/02/international/asia/02CND-KORE.html?ex=1380513600&en=a29d7f1e49aabee0&ei=5007&partner=USERLAND [nytimes.com]
My suggestion for Google,
Searches for "Persian Gulf" on Google.ir are going to return:
"Did you mean: 'How to violently overthrow an idiotic, oppressive regime'?"
I think there are a lot of Americans wanting to overthrow an idiotic and oppressive regime with secret prisons and officially condoned torture. They won't have to go very far to do it.
Worth noting that Iran meets your criteria just as well.
"The spokesperson would not name any other specific areas that are not labeled."
In related news, the members of the band "America" have issued a press release declining to give the name of the horse in the song "A Horse With No Name".
-- Terry
Unless you're just looking for a fight, getting all pissy about it first isn't the best way to get what you want.
What are they afraid of? That people are going to call it the Israeli gulf?
Get a grip, psychos.
"How many teamsters does it take to screw in a light bulb?" "FIFTEEN!! YOU GOT A PROBLEM WITH THAT?"


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(AP) -- The NFL's second season got under way with Houston and Green Bay moving onto next weekend's divisional playoffs.
-- Aaron Rodgers and the Green Bay Packers showed how dangerous they can be when they're at full strength. The Packers overwhelmed the Minnesota Vikings 24-10 in an NFC wild-card game that was never really close.
John Kuhn scored two touchdowns. DuJuan Harris added another and Rodgers connected with an NFL playoff-record 10 receivers as he threw for 274 yards. Defensively, the Packers finally managed to contain Adrian Peterson and were all over Vikings backup Joe Webb, pressed into service because of Christian Ponder's elbow injury.
Peterson was held to 99 yards. He had rushed for 199 and 210 in the first two games against the Packers. Webb, who hadn't thrown a pass all season, was sacked three times and off target all night. His only highlight was a 50-yard scoring pass to Michael Jenkins late in the fourth quarter.
Green Bay will be at San Francisco next Saturday.
Houston held off Cincinnati 19-13 in the first AFC wild-card round. The Texans' victory was built on the rushing of Arian Foster and solid defense, and reversed a slide that saw them lose three of their last four regular-season games to lose home-field advantage in the AFC.
Foster gained 140 yards, becoming the first player with at least 100 yards rushing in his first three postseason games. He scored on a 1-yard run and also had eight receptions.
"It only takes one week to turn things around in the NFL and we did that," said Foster, whose team lost to Minnesota and Indianapolis to slip to the AFC's third seed.
Cincinnati gained only 198 yards and had 12 first downs. Its touchdown came on Leon Hall's interception return.
Houston moves on to play at New England next Sunday.
(AP) -- The Carolina Panthers are bringing back coach Ron Rivera for next season. A team spokesman says Rivera met with club owner Jerry Richardson and was told he will be back for a third season.
After a 1-5 start to the 2012 season the Panthers went 6-4 the rest of the way, including four straight wins to close the season.
In other NFL news:
-- Rutgers running back Jawan Jamison has elected to forego his final two years of eligibility and enter the NFL draft. He is the sixth player since 2008 to leave the school early for the draft. For his career, Jamison rushed for 1,972 yards and 13 touchdowns in 25 games.
(AP)-- -- Carmelo Anthony scored 16 of his season-high 40 points in the fourth quarter, helping the New York Knicks outlast the Orlando Magic 114-106. J.R. Smith added 18 points off the bench for the Knicks. Tyson Chandler added 14 points and 12 rebounds.
The Knicks have won two straight overall and four in a row over the Magic, dating back to last season.
In other NBA action:
-- Rajon Rondo (RAH'-zhahn RAHN'-doh) had 14 points, 11 rebounds and 10 assists, and the Boston Celtics rallied to beat the Atlanta Hawks 89-81. Paul Pierce scored 17 of his 26 points in the third quarter as the Celtics erased a 19-point deficit in the second half.
-- Brook Lopez scored 18 points in 17 minutes to lead six players in double figures, and the Brooklyn Nets breezed past the Sacramento Kings 113-93 for their third straight victory.
-- Roy Hibbert had 20 points, 15 rebounds and five blocked shots to lead the Indiana Pacers to a 95-80 victory over the Milwaukee Bucks.
-- James Harden scored 29 points, including 16 in the fourth quarter, and the Houston Rockets defeated the Cleveland Cavaliers 112-104.
-- Tony Parker had 20 points and Manu Ginobili (MAN'-oo jih-NOH'-blee) added 19 and the San Antonio Spurs routed the Philadelphia 76ers 109-86.
-- Danilo Gallinari scored 26 points and the Denver Nuggets rebounded from a rare home loss to beat the Utah Jazz 110-91. Denver lost to Minnesota Thursday night.
-- Eric Gordon completed a three-point play with 4.7 seconds left in overtime and the New Orleans Hornets won 99-96 Saturday night at Dallas to spoil the Mavericks' first game this season with Dirk Nowitzki (noh-VIHT'-skee) in the starting lineup. Nowitzki had 20 points in 34 minutes in his most extensive action of the season.
-- Nicolas Batum (bah-TOOM'-- and Wesley Matthews each made five 3s and scored 26 points to lead the Portland Trail Blazers over the injury-depleted Minnesota Timberwolves 102-97
(AP) -- Ohio State, the eighth-ranked team in the AP poll, was upset by No. 11 Illinois 74-55. Brandon Paul led the way for the winners with 19 points. The 14-2 Illini led 37-25 at halftime and used a 13-2 run early in the second half to build a 50-27 lead. Ohio State is now 11-3.
In other AP Top-25 hoops:
---- Duke, the No. 1 team in the Associated Press men's poll has racked up another win. Ryan Kelly and Seth Curry each had 22 points in an 80-62 win over Wake Forest. The Blue Devils are now 14-0 while Wake is 7-6.
---- Third-ranked Arizona dodged an upset by holding off Utah 60-57 to remain undefeated at 14-0. Solomon Hill had 19 points. Mark Lyons hit two free throws with 7.2 seconds left to seal it for the Wildcats.
-- Kelly Olynyk poured in a career-high 33 points, and No. 10 Gonzaga held off a late rally to beat Santa Clara 81-74 for its sixth straight victory.
-- Phil Pressey scored a career-high 26 points and Laurence Bowers added 16 to help No. 12 Missouri get by Bucknell 66-64.
-- JaKarr Sampson scored 16 points and D'Angelo Harrison added 15 as St. John's nipped No. 14 Cincinnati 53-52 in yet another close game between the teams. Cashmere Wright finished with 23 points.
-- Davante Gardner made two free throws with 8.3 seconds left and Marquette had to hang on to beat No. 15 Georgetown 49-48. With Marquette leading 49-46, Greg Whittington of the Hoyas was fouled by Trent Lockett on a baseline 3-point shot with 2.3 seconds left. He made the first two free throws and after Marquette coach Buzz Williams called a timeout, hit the front of the rim on the final attempt.
-- Doug McDermott had 25 points and nine rebounds and No. 16 Creighton used a 19-4 run to break open a close game in the second half in a 79-66 victory over Indiana State. The Bluejays, who have won eight straight, are now 14-1 while the Sycamores are 9-5. -- Kellen Dunham scored 15 points and Khyle Marshall added 13, leading No. 17 Butler past New Orleans 57-44. The 12-2 Bulldogs are 7-0 at home this season and will take a nine-game winning streak into their Atlantic 10 debut Tuesday night at Saint Joseph's.
-- Freshman Gary Harris scored a season-high 22 points and No. 18 Michigan State used a 28-7 run in the second half to pull away for an 84-61 victory over Purdue. The win gives the Spartans a 12-3 record, while the Boilermakers fell to 7-7.
-- Scott Martin had a season-high 22 points, including a career-high six 3-pointers, as No. 21 Notre Dame beat Seton Hall 93-74. Jack Cooley added 19 points and 13 rebounds for the Irish, who have won 11 straight. The winning streak is the second-longest for Notre Dame, which is 13-1, in 13 seasons under coach Mike Brey.
----Scott Wood atoned for a scoreless first half with 12 points in the second, hitting two 3-pointers and six free throws down the stretch as No. 23 North Carolina State held off Boston College 78-73.
-- Eli Carter scored 23 points and Rutgers held off a second-half rally to defeat No. 24 Pittsburgh 67-62. The victory was the first for Rutgers coach Mike Rice since returning from a three-game school-imposed suspension for inappropriate behavior earlier this week. The Scarlet Knights have won 10 of 13 games this season while the Panthers, who have lost two straight, are 12-3.
-- Rodney McGruder scored all but two of his 28 points in the second half as No. 25 Kansas State beat 22nd-ranked Oklahoma State 73-67. McGruder was 10 of 13 from the field and hit all five of his 3-pointers after the break as the Wildcats upped their record to 12-2.
STORRS, Conn. (AP) -- Kayla McBride scored 21 points and Skylar Diggins added 19 to help No. 5 Notre Dame upset top-ranked Connecticut 73-72 in the Big East conference opener for both teams. Trailing 73-72 with 6 seconds left, Kaleena Mosqueda-Lewis missed a 3-pointer from the corner and the Irish (12-1, 1-0 Big East) got the ensuing rebound and ran out the clock. Each team is now 12-1 overall.
BIRMINGHAM, Ala. (AP) -- Bo Wallace threw three touchdown passes and Mississippi beat Pittsburgh 38-17 in the BBVA Compass Bowl to complete an impressive turnaround under first-year coach Hugh Freeze. Ole Miss finished the season 7-6 after going 2-10 in 2011.
The loss left Pittsburgh with a record of 6-7.
FRISCO, Texas (AP) -- Quarterback Brock Jensen ran for three touchdowns, Sam Ojuri scored twice and North Dakota State beat Sam Houston State 39-13 in a title-game rematch Saturday for its second straight FCS championship. Jensen scored the go-ahead touchdown on a 1-yard sneak in the third quarter, and Ojuri had a 2-yard TD run on fourth-and-1 after the Bison (14-1) got the ball with a fourth-down stop. The Bearkats finished at 11-4.
Start of season opener delayed, again
KAPALUA, Hawaii (AP) -- The wind remained so strong that the first round of the Tournament of Champions PGA event has once again been delayed. The opening round, first slated for Friday, will now be played Sunday.
Some holes on the back nine are so exposed that when officials dropped a golf ball on the green, it actually rolled up uphill.
The plan is to play 36 holes Sunday and get in 54 holes by Monday afternoon, making it likely that the Tournament of Champions will be decided over 54 holes for the first time since 1997 when it was at La Costa.
Mediator continues to work toward agreement
NEW YORK (AP) -- Representatives for the two sides in the NHL labor dispute met face to face with a federal mediator during a marathon bargaining session. Commissioner Gary Bettman and deputy commissioner Bill Daly went to union headquarters after meeting with mediator Scot Beckenbaugh. He had met earlier in the day with officials from the players association.
With a deadline to reach a deal in time to save the season less than one week away, the urgency to meet and work out their differences has risen.
UFA, Russia (AP) -- The United States won the world junior ice hockey championships as Rocco Grimaldi scored twice and Vince Trocheck added an empty-net goal for a 3-1 win over Sweden in the final. U.S. goalie John Gibson had 26 saves and was named the MVP of the tournament.
This is the third title for the Americans, who also won in 2004 and 2010.
Gasquet beats Davydenko
DOHA, Qatar (AP) -- Richard Gasquet (ree-SHARD' gas-KAY') won the Qatar (GUH'-tur) Open for his eight career title, coming from a set down to beat Nikolay Davydenko (NIH'-koh-ly dah-vee-DENK'-oh) 3-6, 7-6, 6-3. Having pulled out of the Sydney tournament because of elbow trouble, Gasquet says he will be ready for the upcoming Australian Open.
Spain wins
PERTH, Australia (AP) -- Spain has defeated Serbia 2-1 to win the Hopman Cup for the fourth time. Fernando Verdasco and Anabel Medina Garrigues (meh-DEE'-nah gah-REE'-gez) won the deciding mixed doubles 6-4, 7-5 against Novak Djokovic (NOH'-vak JOH'-kuh-vich) and Ana Ivanovic (ee-VAH'-noh-vich).


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Raon Digital Everun Note Or The Libretto 2.0?
Raon Digital Everun Note Or The Libretto 2.0?
Oct 15 2008, 02:48 PM
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Well guys, this is as close as it gets to a Z killer for me. I've been (and still am) an avid Toshiba Libretto user for the past few years. The 50CT, 70CT and an imported M3 got me by in an 8'' x 4.5'' 1'' form factor that was easily touch type for even my large hands.
Everun Review from UMPCPortal
Last month RAON released the Everun Note. In a very similar form factor (a cm shorter and a cm taller) it boasts the following:
2 USB ports
1 USB mini B port (for use as a hard drive: you can actually plug this laptop into another PC and it shows up as a portable HD)
SD card slot
USIM card slot (currently there isn't a 3G /HDSPA receiver in the laptop, though the pads are there!)
PCIe slot
1GB ram
Dual Core AMD 1.2Ghz proc (which is faster than it sounds; this is leaps better than the current net book stuff)
ATI something or another beefy GFX card, I can't remember
At any rate, it's something I can touchtype on again that is pretty dang small.
The ups are size and power, the downs are the funny mouse and battery life (a pale 2.5 hrs), but for Libretto lovers, I think this is the next thing. Check it out and discuss.
Oct 22 2008, 08:30 PM
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Dynamism has an extended battery that gives about double the battery span I believe. It extends the base of the unit a little bit; it comes with foot 'extensions' to make up for this.
Also, now that I got mine in, I must say that this laptop runs very hot. I think I may have a faulty power supply, but I've seen cpu temps of 90 degC and hard drive temps over 65 degC on my unit, after just 15 minutes of a stress test. Just something else to consider. Size wise, it is sooooo impressive. The only problem I have is that since it is white, people are constantly asking, "Is that the new Mac?" The optical mouse is quite odd, and takes some time to get used to. Other than that, if anything would replace the Zaurus for me, it would be this. . . My eyes just aren't as good with the small screen. The Zaurus replaced my PSP for classic video game emulation, and now this thing is replacing the Z. . . The life of tech toys.
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Guest Author - Amber Grey
Ever since she was a little girl, Esther Williams had grown up in the water. She spent most of her time either swimming in the public pools or was down at the beach. Not only did she train to swim, but she also worked at pools in order to support the cost to swim. Her job was counting wet towels for five cents a day and swam on her lunch break. By the time she was a teenager, Ms. Williams was a part of the Los Angeles Athletic Club and had won three national championships.
After being hired as a replacement in a Aquacade show, partnered with Olympic swimmer and star of "Tarzan", Johnny Weissmuller, she was spotted by one of MGM Studios talent scouts. At 18, Ms. Williams filmed her screen test at MGM Studios. Her screen test was not to display her swimming talents, however, but of her chemistry and her photogenic looks with other actors. And what better way to test her chemistry than kissing Clark Gable? In an interview with Brett Leveridge, in an association with Barnes and Noble, Ms. Williams revealed that when Gable first came onto set, his wife Carole Lombard was with him. After one look at Ms. Williams, the actor turned to Lombard and said, "I told you I was going to kiss a real mermaid today."
In one interview, Ms. Williams was quoted saying, "I always felt that if I made a movie, it would be one movie; I didn't see how they could make 26 swimming movies."
But they did. Her films were in a genre all their own often referred to as the "Aquamusical." Simply put, the Aquamusical was a Broadway/Busby Berkeley styled musical set, well, in the water with Esther Williams as the star. The studios pushed Ms. Williams to swim hard and perform stunts that were physically impossible but with Ms. Williams athletic grace and sparkling personality, she made them look easy.
By 1956, friction had been created by Williams and MGM Studios when she began refusing to do pictures that she felt wasn't in the best interest of her and her talent. She left her contract after almost 20 years of MGM Studios being her home and shortly retired from acting in the 1960s.
But in her retirement, Ms. Williams still has a devotion to swimming, providing retro swimwear that come in the classic patterns and shapes of the swimsuit she wore in films, as well as swimming pools and pool accessories.
In 1999, Ms. Williams released her memoir titled, "The Million Dollar Mermaid: An Autobiography." It was revealing book about her many highs and lows of her life. Today, Ms. Williams continues her love and devotion to swimming by being the representing brand for swimwear .In 2010, at the first TCM Film Festival held in Los Angeles, California, Esther Williams made a special guest appearance to introduce her film "Neptune's Daughter".


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By Chris Whitaker
The Americus Times-Recorder
ST. AUGUSTINE, Fla. — Trayce Macon and Phillip Brown each posted double-doubles as Georgia Southwestern knocked off Flagler 80-76 on Saturday.
Macon had 18 points and 12 rebounds, and Brown had 15 and 12 as the 16th-ranked Hurricanes rebounded from Thursday's loss at Armstrong Atlantic.
GSW (17-5, 10-3 PBC) has yet to lose consecutive games this season.
"It was a huge road win," said coach Mike Leeder. "I thought them and Armstrong were both good offensively and very difficult to guard, and we didn't defend well. I thought it would be a very difficult road trip, and it was. I was glad to get a split."
Brown played three minutes in the first half with foul trouble, and Macon had one rebound in Thursday's loss. But on Saturday with the two on the floor, GSW outscored Flagler by 29 points.
The Hurricanes trailed by as many as 10 in the first half before rallying for a 36-35 halftime lead, and they led by as many as eight in the second half.
Colin Slotter had a game-high 23 points, and Evan Mobley chipped in 17.
The difference came at the free-throw line. GSW was 21 of 22 while Flagler was 5 of 15.
GSW remains two games ahead in the West entering this week's play.
The Hurricanes host Georgia College on Wednesday at 7:30 p.m.


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DeKALB – Tanzania Development Support will host its first yard sale fundraiser of 2014 from 8 a.m. until 4 p.m. May 16 and 17 at the First Congregational United Church of Christ, 615 N. First St. in DeKalb.
The new location offers an indoor setting with three large rooms that will be filled with an impressive array of large and small items looking to be repurposed. Buyers will find home furnishings, sporting goods, clothing, electronics, small appliances, books and vintage memorabilia.
TDS is seeking volunteers to help staff rooms and help with set-up and take-down. Volunteers with trucks or vans are also needed to transport items to the church on Thursday, May 15. To volunteer, contact Brandi Smith at firstname.lastname@example.com.
Proceeds from the sale will be used to support TDS's mission of improving the quality of life of youth, especially girls, in the Mara region of Tanzania by supporting primary and secondary school improvements. The current project is the construction of a library and community resource center in Nyegina, Tanzania. Additional information is available at www.tdsnfp.org.
Donations of salable items are welcome and appreciated. Items can be dropped off before the sale dates by calling Jeanine at 815-901-0393 to schedule a time. Arrangements can also be made for donations to be picked up.


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Unbelievable Only Obama (with the MSM help) could get away with blatantly lying for all this time about how many people are uninsured in the US. Did I catch that right or did he just go from 47 million to 30 million in one speach. Now does that mean there are 17 million illegals in the country? I and anyone that watchs FOX already knew he was lying though FOX has been saying it from the beginning about how many people are really uninsured. Now if we can get Obama to admit many of the 30 million that are left are ether in transition from job to job or earn enough (70,000 a year) to get insurance but dont want it.
Obama says that illegals and abortions would not be covered in his plan well I would like to know why when the republicans and some democrats tried to put directly in the bill, measures that would make sure of that, it was voted down and taken out. I would like to know how illegals wont be covered when it is illegal to check to see if people are illegal or not when they go to get health care.


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Similar to my story. I was an atheist before I found the Atheist Experience, but that is what got me into counter-apologetics and atheist activism. Antibaryon 07:25, 10 July 2010 (CDT)
How exactly did you find out you were an atheist? Antibaryon 03:49, 11 July 2010 (CDT)
I guess I always was one, my dad taught me to be a bit skeptical about things and no religion really ever took hold, it was only recently that i found iron chariots though. --Daemonowner 09:38 11 July 2010 (UTC)


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Mouser Electronics Receives Prestigious Design Fulfillment Award from Vishay Intertechnology
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Nov. 26, 2012 04:54 PM
Mouser Electronics, Inc. announced today it has received the Best Overall Performance in Design Fulfillment Award from Vishay Intertechnology. The award was presented to Mouser at electronica 2012 in Munich, Germany.
Mouser Electronics receives the Vishay Design Fulfillment Award during an event at electronica 2012. Pictured from left to right are Mouser and Vishay executives Dave Valletta, Andy Kerr, Doris Hilbert, Mark Burr-Lonnon, Glenn Smith, Philippe Masson and Joel Smejkal. (Photo: Business Wire)
Vishay Intertechnology, one of the world's largest manufacturers of discrete semiconductors and passive electronic components, presented this exclusive distributor award in recognition of Mouser's industry-leading business model. Making the presentation to Mouser Electronics' CEO Glenn Smith during a November 15th gala dinner were Vishay's Dave Valletta, Executive Vice President of Global Sales; Joel Smejkal, Senior Vice President of Global Distribution; and Philippe Masson, EMEA Director of Distribution.
"Vishay is pleased to present the Best Overall Performance in Design Fulfillment Award to Mouser," said Senior Vice President of Global Distribution, Joel Smejkal. "Mouser is very focused in its emphasis on promoting our newest products to ensure they get to market faster. Mouser's ability to provide small order quantities and fulfill immediate shipping requirements really supported our strong growth in Europe."
"I would like to thank our friends at Vishay for this special award," said Mouser's President and CEO Glenn Smith. "Mouser is especially thrilled to receive the Design Fulfillment Award since this is an area in which we specialize. This is a testament to our business model in serving design engineers with the newest products in the world today."
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The folks in Division 6 always have a good time at their annual get together and this year was no exception. One of the reasons for all of the fun was the fact that they inducted six new members into their Hall of Fame. Among them were Hank Johnson, Jesse Jones, Dave Weiss, Frank Hall, Steve Denbo and Jack Shannon. While Hank's name is probably familiar to anyone who follows the sport the others may not be although they all had very distinguished careers in their own right. Jesse was the main crew guy for Hank and the two were virtually inseparable during their careers. Hank was a very familiar figure walking around the pits and he was always easy to spot while Jesse had one of those little idiosyncrasies that made him stand out. It seems that when ever he was in the pits working on the car he always wore a white lab coat. You know, like a doctor. There must be some story behind that and I'm sure anyone from Division 6 would be more than happy to share it with you. Dave Weiss drove a variety of cars during his career in Comp and the old Super Eliminator categories and he won the division championship in 1966. Frank Hall was one of the top racers to ever come out of the great Northwest, and whether he was running a dragster or a Funny Car, he was as good as they came. He won a national championship
Division 6 has always been blessed with a great group of women who support the races and the racers throughout the year. A few years ago a special award was named in honor of the late Janet Lang, Toby and Jody's mom, and this year the award went to Pam Gorman who has been a fixture at the Division 6 races for as long as I can remember and I mean that as a compliment. She does a great job and the award was richly deserved. Bob Sims grabbed the gold when he was named the "Ernie Hall Memorial Person of the Year." Bob is part of one of the great families that make Division 6 such a good and fun place to race. Woodburn Dragstrip carted off two awards, one for being the top Lucas Oil Track and another for being the top Summit ET Series track. Congratulations to everyone at the Oregon facility. I have always enjoyed my trips to the Northwest and whether it was the national event in Seattle, one of the big races in Boise or a quick weekend in Anaconda, Montana, Division 6 has always been one of my favorite places to go.
There were many more, hundreds in fact, drivers and crew members who were honored at the division banquets during the year and we congratulate all of them. You often hear that the sportsman racers are the "backbone of the sport" and that is so true, and if you don't believe it just stop by your local track on any weekend and see what we mean. They race because they love it and we love it because they race. Now everyone go and have a Happy New Racing Year, a year that starts this weekend.
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DELANO, Tenn. - Melvin Yoder, 52, spoke slowly and quietly, just above a whisper, about the tragedy unfolding in this tight-knit Mennonite community.
On Wednesday, 36-year-old Nick Alley took five of his children out in a canoe on the Conasauga Creek near his home in northern Polk County, Yoder said. The canoe tipped over, spilling all six family members into the water.
Three children returned.
Nick Alley and two other children, identified by members of the community as 7-year-old Helana Alley and 6-year-old Lazarus Alley, did not.
Other than Yoder, few in the community wanted to talk about Alley on Friday afternoon.
"It's not that we're trying to hide anything," said Yoder, the community's beekeeper. "It's just these aren't the things we want to turn attention to. We take life very seriously. We especially take death seriously."
Rescue teams from Bradley, Walker and Polk counties, as well as East Ridge, swarmed the area where the missing Alleys were last seen.
Members from the Tennessee State Parks system and Tennessee Wildlife Resources Agency came to help, too.
Rescue teams started the day searching through previously flooded land, said Jeff Bishop, a lieutenant with TWRA. After lunch, the teams took to the creek in rafts and small boats, searching an area about 300 or 400 yards long.
Today, the teams will return with more people. Polk County Emergency Management Agency Director Stephen Lofty said about 100 people will look through the creek, and the TWRA will supply a sonar scanner that shows what is underwater.
If rescuers can't find the three today, the search will continue indefinitely.
"Eventually they will be found," Bishop said. "We want it to be sooner rather than later."
The Alleys moved to Delano from Virginia four or five years ago. They didn't come from a Mennonite background, Yoder said, but they attend church each week.
Yoder said his wife, Ruth, told him about Alley and his children.
Word spread door to door, the message arriving on foot or horseback.
"Something like that gets around quickly in spite of our limits on modern technology," Yoder said.
The whole community appreciated Alley, and everyone feels hurt, Yoder said. They just don't show it. That's not their style.
"Nick was as involved as the rest of us," Yoder said. "Not more. Not less."


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To the editor:
With all the talk this election cycle about cutting spending to lessen or nation's debt, I feel compelled to speak out about one thing in particular that Republicans are chomping at the bit to cut: our education.
We don't need a partisan battle to ensure that our kids are educated next year and into the next generation. We just need someone who will stand up to protect our Iowan values of world-class education so everyone has the opportunity to succeed in our great state.
Only one candidate this November understands that any cuts to education funding are a guaranteed chokehold on our kids' futures. Dave Loebsack, as a member of the House Education and the Workforce Committee, has the power to make sure Iowans keep getting a world-class education.
I read that Dave grew up in poverty and that he credits his Iowa public education for getting him where he is today. Dave earned his American dream right at home in Iowa and he wants to make sure every Iowan has the same opportunity he did.
While much of the talk this election has been about jobs, our economic recovery and fair taxes, we can't let education take a backseat for our children. That's why we need Dave. I urge you to join me in voting to re-elect Dave Loebsack on Nov. 6.
Cynthia A. Pollard


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This Vogelsong is obviously a big time pitcher. I now understand game three a little better.
This Vogelsong is obviously a big time pitcher. I now understand game three a little better.
Last 8 games
1-for-14 5 games
5-for-7 2 games
0-for-4 in last game
I said he had 2 good games in his last 3, which he clearly did. Said he hit .230 over his last 80 games which once again he did and 1 game short of half the season is nice sized sample.
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Cards have 'em just where they want 'em.
Rounding third and heading for home...
Glad the the Giants din't hit or throw at Holliday there. Do it if he he starts hitting, but let his bat slumber as long as you can right now.
If you understood stats half as much as you pretend to you'd realize it's just standard variation rather than whining about it. Moving the goalposts from 6 to 8 then 80 is quite frankly ignorant.
FWIW....the Giants have been very fortunate this game.....
And again as I post lol
You have got to be a Cards fan as delusional as you are here! Dude hit .230 over the last 80 games, I said he had 2 good games in his last 3 which he did. I post facts and you try to start an argument when those numbers don't lie since he actually hit .230 for HALF OF THE SEASON.
Second time Marco Scutaro's spot came up with a runner at 3rd less than 2 outs, lets hope they get the run in this time.
Theriot gets it done
7-1 and two on. Hats off to the Giants.
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Brookline, New Hampshire
This bridge is not old, it was built 2001- 2003. See HERE.
HO HO, like that black and white rendition. Well done. Nice link to some info on the bridge, enjoyed my visit here this morning.
Thanks Carol, I'm glad you enjoyed my B/W. Also, I didn't know until the other day that the bridge was new.
I love old (bridges maybe I should say old style in this case). The black and white version really grabbed my attention. Love it!
Michelle, since Carol also liked the B/W, I think I'll do them again, for contrast and to give the impression of being old.


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Aren't unguided rockets also ballistic missiles? How are they different?
Yes, but people generally equate ballistic missiles with ICBMs.
The ones that the Iron Dome is made to work against are relatively short range. I did some research on this after discussing it with some other people. They can basically intercept unguided missiles which cross into Israeli airspace, with a total flight of 3 km to 30 km.
The primary missile it's used to intercept are pretty primitive. Think along the same lines as the kind most readers here would have built out of cardboard from an Estes kit. They use fairly primitive solid fuel, a payload of common or improvised explosives, fins to make it fly sort of straight, and not much else.
Thousands have been launched towards Israel. Dozens have been hurt.
It could work against any number of threats, but I would guess it is best at something with a fairly horizontal trajectory. If it were to intercept something like an ICBM, I would guess the resulting blast would still have the effect the attacker desired.
Where's the edit button when you need it?
The primary missile it is made to intercept is made of metal. Actually, all the cases that I read about were metal cased missiles, with a very obvious flight path.
Thousands have been launched towards Israel. Dozens have been hurt.
This kind of says it all, really... I wish I could find the reference at the moment, but I read somewhere a couple of years ago that most of the rockets that are being fired into Israel don't even have a payload, and are just empty shells. Compare and contrast to how many have been injured or killed by Israeli reaction (not to mention the blockade of medical supplies and construction equipment/supplies into the west bank). There was an episode of The West Wing, in Season 1 which summed it up quite nicely... episode 3 - Proportional Response. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJMVtP1CbOM [youtube.com]
I really hope that the Iron Dome system works as advertised, and that it allows cooler heads to prevail. I also hope that the cease fire that was negotiated and announced today succeeds. If either of those fails to happen, it does not bode well.
I read somewhere a couple of years ago that most of the rockets that are being fired into Israel don't even have a payload, and are just empty shells. Compare and contrast to how many have been injured or killed by Israeli reaction
What would you consider to be a proportional response?
Also, assuming that you are American (you may not be, of course, but changes are good), remember Afganistan? There is still a war raging there, plus at least 5 other countries are being bombed on regular basis. All that in response to an 11+ year old event (if a major one). You wanna talk about "proportional response"?
Also, assuming that you are American (you may not be, of course, but changes are good), remember Afganistan? There is still a war raging there, plus at least 5 other countries are being bombed on regular basis. All that in response to an 11+ year old event (if a major one). You wanna talk about "proportional response"?
You're confusing "an American" with "America, the country." Realityimpaired is most likely a guy who lives in the US. He is most likely not one of the people who got the US involved in Afghanistan.
If you were implying there was hypocrisy there because he lives in a country that did something bad, then you're a hypocrite for living wherever it is you live, because wherever it is you live, people did/do bad stuff there too.
Also, really, do you think that someone daring to question whether Israel was morally justified was all gung-ho about Bush invading Afghanistan? I guess if you're not from America, the basics of our politics might be difficult. The answer is no: Realityimpaired likely was disgusted at his country for that.
It isn't the response that is needed. What is needed is an end to the blockade. While I can understand Israel's kneejerk reaction on implementing it, it really is illegal by international law to take punitive action on an entire populace for the crimes of the terrorists. The UN recently released a report that noted that the Gaza strip will be unlivable by 2020. This has to stop.
But this won't be enough. Israel needs to be serious on negotiations with both the leaders of the Gaza Strip and the West Bank. Con
If the Palestines get their way, the gaza strip becomes a sovereign nation and it is perfectly legal to close the borders between nations. THAT is the HUGE elephant in the room in this conflict. The Palestines NEED Israel more then Israel needs them and the arabs don't want them at all.
You see, the occupied territories BELONG to someone. The arab neighbours of Israel who lost it after Israel didn't get wiped out when the Arab nations ganged up together to wipe it out and instead Israel took sizable chunks of their land. If Israel withdraws, possession of those lands should naturally revert to those nations.
Right now all the occupied territories have TWO borders. One with Israel and one with an Arab nation. BOTH sides are closed. In fact the Muslim side tends to be FAR more closed. Egypt has lost many a live dealing with smuggling into Gaza. None of its neighbours WANT a Palestine state on their border or they could have created one ANY TIME THEY WANTED TO. Palestines are trouble, they are the one group who so far has achieved a lot through armed resistance. There is not a single neighbour to Israel that doesn't have its own trouble groups that could take inspiration from this. Hell, just ask Khaddafi. Did he enjoy the people taking power through armed resistance? Didn't think so. A Palestine victory will send the message that armed rebellion works, with the Arab spring a lot know this already but it is a message those in power would care not to reinforce.
An indepedent Palestine state would need to exist on its own, without relying on Israeli resources and infrastructure. The border would be 100% closed. Canadians can't just wander into the US as they please either can they? And those are somewhat friendly nations that just think the other is silly. The border between a palestine state and Israel would be closer to the border between north and south korea and that one is PERFECTLY legal. Sovereign nations do NOT have to deal with each other if they don't want to. And any attack from one may be answered with force by the other, as much force as the attacked side pleases. That is what war is all about after all. Real war, not police actions however twisted they might get.
Do you REALLY THINK that Russia, China and Iran want to send the message that armed resistance by Muslims against a more powerful opponent can work in the long run? The first already has exactly the same problem with Tjetnie, China has its muslims who want independence and Iran is supressing its own population harshly. Why do you THINK that Hamas rockets are still so primitive? Iran wants to build nukes but it can't even build a decent rocket? It ain't rocket science anymore. Hamas gets the absolute minimum support to keep them going but not enough to actually achieve anything. Why do you think the west is the biggest donator of humanitarian support? It is no secret Israel got its economy going on bad land thanks to enormous donations, Israel is the only nations were the taxpayers live abroad and WANT to pay taxes freely. But Muslims ain't poor either, were is the Golf State Marshall plane to kickstart the Palestine economy with a few billions?
No, having the conflict brewing suits most Muslims just fine, shows they are not just rolling over and giving in, that they are making a fist against the great Satans but actually finishing it, one way or another, that would risk the cozy lifestyles of the powers that be.
And if you want to resolve this, why not start on something simpler first.
Sort out the United Kingdom, it is easy, just sort out Ireland, Schotland, Wales and Brittain. They all speak the same language (HA!) so it should be a cakewalk!
Next, the basks, Belgium and oh sort out the European tax havens. Then you can start thinking about Tibet, Korea and maybe then you will be ready to sort out the middle east.
That was a pretty long post for the premise that you support the oppression of the Palestinians because it might upset the current world order. And yes, Wales and Scotland are being oppressed to the exact same degree as the Palestinians. Give me a fucking break.
What the Palestinians need are the rights given to every other free citizen in the world. The right to travel, the right to citizenship, the right to justice, and the right to make a living in their homeland. Currently they have none of these rights.
Look at everything said in the GP comment, not just the part you pick to rail about.
There are two closed borders. Why does the blockade of the border on the Arab side get a pass and the one on the otherside not?
The Arab states USE the Palestinians as a trapped proxy force against Israel in a cynical and vile fashion. And 'progressive' types around the world ignore this or even cheer them on. How disgusting and hypocritical.
If the Palestines get their way, the gaza strip becomes a sovereign nation and it is perfectly legal to close the borders between nations. THAT is the HUGE elephant in the room in this conflict. The Palestines NEED Israel more then Israel needs them and the arabs don't want them at all.
If Gaza were a souvereign nation:
1. Israel would be totally free to close the land border. In fact, Israel has closed borders with Lebanon and Syria and that is fine in terms of international law
2. Israel would *not* be allowed to blockade Gaza from the sea and air, as it currently does. Blockading is an act of war and would justify an armed response from Gaza, making Israeli the aggressor if a war occurs. (in fact, blockading of the red sea leading to Eilat was was part of the casus belli for the 6 days war, so Israel certainly acknowledges that blockade is an act of war).
3. There would be no objection to Gaza importing arms from Egypt and Iran and training a real military.
At the moment, (1) is already a reality, and Israel really does not want (2) and (3). In fact, preventing (re)arming of Hamas was a stated objective of the 2009 Gaza War. Although economically Gaza would profit much more from integration with Israel, at the moment they're getting the worst of both worlds: they are blockaded from outside and closed off from Israel. So, Gaza (the region/potential country/people) absolutely has nothing to gain from the status quo.
(Of course, whether current Hamas leadership prefers the status quo to a more normalized situation where they can't abuse the conflict with Israel to stay in power is a totally different question...)
Israel pulled out of the west bank entirely in 2008. Hamas brought in a bunch of weapons and attacked Israel, so Israel put in place a blockade.
The West Bank has no blockade, because they don't attack Israel. They also have freedom of movement and travel and a growing economy. The settlements are provocations, that the government often bulldozes. Its not government policy.
If Hamas committed to stopping attacks and recognizing Israel's right to exist, they would get a two state solution with East Jerusalem as the capital, just like Israel had offered at Camp David. However Hamas and their backers have no interest in that. They don't want permanent peace, they want nothing less then the complete destruction of Israel.
Thats what I don't get. Who can look at Hamas's charter and who's backing them and honestly conclude that they are the slightest bit interested in peace. They are indiscriminate butchers, not just of Israelis but of Palestinians too. Who on earth would consider entrenching their power to be a good thing for anyone in the region. Israel is no saint, but they would gladly trade land for peace if it actually meant peace.
First, Palestinians don't have freedom of movement in the West Bank. The roads are segregated [visualizingpalestine.org] with special Israeli only roads, restricted Palestinian roads, and full use Palestinian roads. Israelis can use all roads. In order to travel, Palestinians must go through checkpoints to access different areas [wikipedia.org] is what is now popularly referred to as the West Bank Archipelago due to the isolation of Palestinian cities and land. This is partially due to the settlements and Israeli-only or Palestinian restricted roads and also due to military bases and land that Israel is reserving for future use.
Second, Israel has been continuing to build settlements. That was one of the promises that Netanyahu made to win his seat. They just announced a new one [huffingtonpost.com] just before this recent war. Obama has almost been on his knees begging Netanyahu to stop since further construction is so inflammatory to this region. But even if he did, religious hardliners in Israel have been know to perform Price Tag [wikipedia.org] attacks as reprisals for any restrictions on building settlements.
What would you consider to be a proportional response?
At this stage? Proportional would be wiping Palestine off the face of the Earth. While I understand their complaint, they don't behave in a civilized nor intelligent manner. They lob rockets and Israel, then get all uppity when Israel attacks their launch sites like its not okay to do so.
Palestinian 'traitors' tell the IDF were the rocket sites are so Israel doesn't carpet bomb them
Their citizens are proud of their terrorists and think Israel should pay them because their sons get killed when they do shit like take hostages from the Church of the Nativity.
America isn't the only country that is in Afghanistan, and it wasn't the first in there either. Hell, you can't even spell it.
There are no innocents when they hide murderers in their ranks. Take your proportional response and shove it up your ass. Proportional is what it takes to make it stop.
What would you consider to be a proportional response?
That's where I'm confused to people's responses.
You neutralize the threat.
If someone is launching rockets from Point A, towards your Point B.
You return fire at Point A.
The launchers are destroyed. Any more rockets at that site are destroyed. The people launching those rockets are destroyed. There may be civilian casualties at Point A, but they can be assumed to be colluding with the attacker(s).
The weapons operators of Point B (Israel) have sufficient technology to do this without missing wildly.
The American (United States, for those confused about the usage in this context) response typically misses wildly.
Follow the Richard Reid attempt with his shoe, the American response was that all domestic passengers have to pass their shoes through X-ray.
The idea that a binary explosive could be held in common liquid containers has resulted in all liquid containers greater than 3.4 oz are forbidden from flights.
And the terrorist attacks of 2001 resulted in two wars against nations that were only thought to have had involvement.
It could be said that we aren't very good at proportional response. It could be said that we are very *bad* at it.
When I went hunting for information on the system, I was told that it could take down an RPG. My immediate reaction was, that's impossible. Oddly enough, it can't do it.
I really hope that the Iron Dome system works as advertised, and that it allows cooler heads to prevail. I also hope that the cease fire that was negotiated and announced today succeeds. If either of those fails to happen, it does not bode well.
There are a few things that are givens, based on current and historical behavior. War in
Hamas will not stop until they value their own civilians more than they value the possibility of killing Israelis.
The 3-30km figure is completely off. Iron Dome already shot down rockets coming into Tel Aviv - some 80km away.
It can do more than that, it's barely at v1.1.
But the article is bogus in general. Iron Dome was designed to counter short range weapons. Surprise surprise, it won't work on ICBMs. It's still extremely useful to protect military based around the world, airports, and border cities (like Seoul).
Israel has not one but two additional anti missile defense systems. One operational - Arrow, which already meets the challenges mentioned in this article, and another one in development (Magic Wand) - for medium range missiles. Each has its own purpose - countering a specific type of weapon, and they don't replace one another.
Let me highlight a bit of fact here, that you did not find out in actual research discussing it with military people who would have clarified.
Believe it or not, but the unguided small missiles are a hell of a lot harder to intercept than ICBM's. Smaller and more frequent. ICBM's have more risk, but the unguided ones were basically impossible to intercept prior to Iron Dome. The issue with ICBM's is not that they can be intercepted (that part's easy), but the risk of fallout that increases by the second as the missiles head back towards the earth and/or the risk to other countries if they are detonated in upper atmosphere.
If you recall the missile system russia was panicking about when countries near it's borders wanted to install it, it was this same project working successfully. Russia is probably shitting itself right now, as this is effectively a successful demonstration.
It's not about the flight path at all - I doubt they predict based on flight path, or the intercept process would fail routinely just due to wind variations.
So basically it'd be useless against the type of missiles Israel throws back?
The enemy in this case is less than 100km away so the missiles come in very slow.
I've learned very quickly, that if you read anything about military systems posted on slashdot that you better not hope for valid answers in the comments. The posters here have a very good grasp on Command and Conquer, but not real military tactics. Plus they just love to point out how that same system won't be effective once the enemy "upgrades" their weapons to the even better version that flies faster or spins or gets evasive, or whatever else they come up with. Cause that happens instantaneously in r
The US provided some funding, they did not fully design or fund technology.
Since it works on artillery shells too, the other place it would work real well is: Seoul.
Not really. One of the key reasons why the Iron Dome works for Israel is because the rocket attacks aren't coordinated. If Hamas launched ALL of its rockets/artillery AT THE SAME TIME, the Israeli Iron Dome system would simply be overwhelming. Don't forget, about 10% of the rockets/artillery are getting through and thats with staggered/uncoordinated attacks. If they were all launched at the same time (which, the North Korean military is surely trained to do), the failure rate would easily double or triple simply because reload times would create opening in the defense.
It's a somewhat misleading mistranslation but the 90% rate is the accuracy rate of the rockets not the efficiency of the whole system. WHEN the incoming missile is recognized and targeted in time, they fire a rocket which has 90% chance of hitting it. If it doesn't hit, they fire a second one. So that rate is more related to the cost-efficiency of the system than its safety. Of the rockets fired at Israel they only managed to shoot down about half.
> Of the rockets fired at Israel they only managed to shoot down about half.
This is a "feature", not a bug. The targeting calculation take into consideration the landing point of the rocket.
Not really. One of the key reasons why the Iron Dome works for Israel is because the rocket attacks aren't coordinated. If Hamas launched ALL of its rockets/artillery AT THE SAME TIME, the Israeli Iron Dome system would simply be overwhelming. Don't forget, about 10% of the rockets/artillery are getting through and thats with staggered/uncoordinated attacks. If they were all launched at the same time (which, the North Korean military is surely trained to do), the failure rate would easily double or triple simply because reload times would create opening in the defense.
Another reason Iron Dome is working with a limited deployment is that there are only a very few trajectories out of Gaza that line up on anything valuable in Israel. Put your radars and interceptors where they can engage anything on those trajectories and you have a much easier problem to solve.
Also, actually, it's more like about 50% of the rockets are getting through. It's just that Iron Dome calculates the probable impact area before deciding whether or not to engage a particular rocket. If it's heade
each rocket costs about $50k, not so good for antiartillery
Seoul is definitely a very good example of building defense against low-tech attacks. The Iron Dome is impressive but if Israel's ennemies start doing like North Korea and dig tunnels under the DMZ it will be useless. So far the Americans in the Korean JSA have found (and closed) 3 tunnels, one of which was wide enough to allow a full-scale invasion.
People underestimate low-tech. The West Bank Barrier, which is basically a big wall, can be blamed from a humanitarian perspective, but from a security/military perspective it actually helped to drastically minimize the number of car and suicide bombings on the israeli territory; now the war is fought on the outskirts or directly in other countries (such as Lebanon) and the focus is on rockets, but 20 years ago the situation was totally different with bus or market bombs being typical.
History is full of successful low-tech solutions, like the barbed wire wall built by Mussolini's henchman (Graziani) in Libya that prevented the mujahideen to bring supplies to the resistance. History is also full of high-tech solutions that ended up being an expensive fiasco, like the Maginot Line. (Some people would put Reagan's SDI in that list but as a conspiracy theory buff I prefer to think it was all a master plan to push USSR to bankrupt itself by building a bigger arsenal).
As far as rockets are concerned, I'd be curious to see a cost analysis of the Iron Dome versus a shitload of snipers with high-powered rifles trying to shoot rockets as they fly over the territory. Just sayin'.
A sniper shooting a rocket out of the air? I think you've been watching too many movies. It's considered a good shot for a sniper to hit a relatively stationary human-sized target at 1-2km away. While it's hard to find a good figure, the rockets Hamas et al are using look to be traveling at 200m/s, which means they will cover the effective firing range in 5-6 seconds, which is nowhere near enough time to get a bead and fire. With a few hundred snipers and a known launch point, they could maybe hit 1 out of every 100 by sheer luck, if that (although I grant you even a near hit might knock the rocket off course or destroy it, it's still going to be incredibly ineffective).
200 m/s is about 7 times the speed of trap shooting. I guess it's a bit fast and it does not help that the sniper does not get to scream "pull" to control fire rate... but I'm sure a lot of people can do it, like Tom Berenger, or Ed Harris, or that guy from the last Rambo movie.
On a side note, I have no idea why you say I've been watching too many movies.
Trap shooting is done using shotguns for a reason, and at a few hundred feet, the rockets can cover miles. I mean, sure, there are other ways to shoot down the rockets, but "guys with guns" probably isn't a terribly practical one (I'm not even sure I'd want to blow up a rocket at short range, some of them can carry ~100lb warheads, so you'd end up loosing a lot of the shooters, maybe even if they actually hit the missile). One system I've seen mentioned is the US's Phalanx system, which is designed for exac
The Iron Dome is impressive but if Israel's ennemies start doing like North Korea and dig tunnels under the DMZ it will be useless.
Ground penetrating radar is well within Israeli capabilities. I don't think they'll be digging any tunnels.
Orders of magnitude problem.
Seoul has about 3x as many people as israel in 1/4th the area (the Seoul capital area, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_urban_areas_by_population). Iron dome can afford to ignore a lot more rockets because a lot more of them aren't going to hit anything, and hamas is firing dozens of rockets at a time. North korea would be firing thousands, in a semi coordinated fashion and quite likely take steps to interfere with a similar system.
It's not that a similar attempt would do n
It's C-RAM [wikipedia.org]. It's a tactical defense, not a strategic one.
That word: ballistic, I don't think it means what you think it means
Ballistic: something designed to look exactly like it should be accompanied by a pair of balls.
I am still trying to deal with sub-atmospheric. Is this a mole missile or a torpedo?
So some random 'journalists' have attempted to force an analogy and it doesn't work (ICBM defense is analogous to primitive short range surface-surface missiles). Woop de do. Iron Dome is much more closely related to the Patriot system [wikipedia.org] which was designed to hit smaller, slower targets than ICBMs.
Not sure what the big deal is. Wake me up when they get the shark mounted lasers working.
Some have even gone so far to declare it a vindication of Ronald Reagen's 1980's Star Wars missile defense system.
Some say that I'm the handsomest man in the world.
Some have even gone so far to declare it a vindication of Ronald Reagen's 1980's Star Wars missile defense system.
Some say that I'm the handsomest man in the world.
Moms don't count.
"Will it still work if the same rockets have an off balance twisted fin making them spiral?" No. It will not make them harder to track or make them much harder to hit. Iron Dome uses a fragmentation warhead like a SAM does so close counts.
"Will new tactics erase some of the advantages as fewer and larger salvos are launched?" Maybe but it takes time to set up a lot of rockets for a barrage and that is likely to be seen by drones. If that happens then you just blow up the rockets while they are being set up.
Notice the one big story not covered by the network is the missile attack from Israel on Gaza so far killing 150+ people.
You fund them with $2.5 billion a year, when the USA cannot afford that funding. They in turn need to be at constant war, even with the civilian population of Gaza, just to justify it.
Their 'missile shield' protects them from retaliation fireworks, while they bomb the crap out of the population of Gaza and declare everyone hit to be a 'militant' or a 'terrorist', even the children, women, families, even the UN school they bombed the last time.
Just stop funding them! Really, it's that simple, they'll stop killing people if they have to pay for their own constant warmongering.
even the UN school they bombed the last time.
Yeah, and Israel provided a video. You might remember those "secondary explosions" showing that Hamas had been using it for an ammo dump. You know, in violation of international law, which various people love to scream about in regards to Israel but never about the Palestinians.
I can't tell if you are trolling or just ridiculously young.
We weren't worried about 9/11 or car bombings. We were worried about Soviet invasion or preemptive strikes. Our enemy then *was* clear, in contrast to today.
Anyway, greetings from the other side of the fall of the Berlin wall.
I don't think the SDI was ever intented to work. It was a massive bluff that forced the Soviet Union into a weapons race they couldn't afford. Ultimately, it was a major contributing factor in bankrupting the SU and ending the Cold War.
It was certainly intended to work, up until failures progressed to the point that even the Neocons pushing it had to admit that it can't work. (Especially against any enemy smart enough to employ simple countermeasures.)
After that point, they switched to plan B and changed SDI into an elaborate Potemkin village, similar to the expensive and unworkable bomber defense systems that preceded it.
smart enough to employ simple countermeasures.
I always got a chuckle out of that. Because what are "simple countermeasures" on paper turn out to be "complex and expensive R & D programs" when you try to implement them on your thousand-plus ICBM inventory.
My favorite was "just spin the booster" as a counter to laser interception. Now, consider that Soviet ICBM technology of the time relied on liquid-fueled boosters. Consider the dynamics problems of spinning a liquid-containing cylinder which is also
Congratulations! You've cast meager doubt on two items of your own choosing out of hundreds of possible countermeasures. This conclusively proves that a system that rarely worked even in rigged stunts would have been an impenetrable bastion of defense in the real world.
As a person who grew up in Soviet Union in the early 80s, I can tell you that Soviets were terrified of the SDI. They organized meetings, marches, huge media protests at home and abroad (read: the Soviet-funded peacenik camp in the US), and the huge neon signs in the Soviet cities that read, " !" (No to the program SDI). Regardless if it was a bluff or not, it was highly effective.
It's real goal was to transfer money from the American people to military contractors.
It would have been amazingly successful at doing that.
One day, some strangers came and slapped a condo on it, cutting off my access to the beach.
The people they setup in the place then began throwing rocks at my family.
My family and I appealed to the authorities, but the largest and most powerful among them are staunch friends of the new people.
There was absolutely no chance of any kind of peaceful negotiation, so it's been open hostility between us ever since.
A few years ago they even invaded what remained of our property and threw most of us off it, then built another condo on it.
We'd love to get our yard back, but it's been too long now.
The grandchildren of the new people call the condo home, and feel the beach is rightfully theirs now.
They won't consider the possibility of giving us even a narrow right-of-way to the sea.
It's a most unfortunate situation, and I don't know how it's going to end.
Technology improves over time.
Once there's a working prototype, it can be improved in thousands of ways that are less challenging to produce than the prototype itself.
Right now, there are some challenges in making Iron Dome into SDI. However, there's also a working model which can be refined until it has SDI-ish capabilities.
If you looked at a computer in the 1970s, you might think it could never simulate a human cell [technologyreview.com]. And yet, we're almost there.
Now, maybe the guy meant intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs), or even intermediate range ballistic missile (IRBM) -- the stuff Israel is shooting down seems shorter range -- but ballistic and unguided are essentially equivalent. You could have a non-ballistic unguided missile (an unguided cruise missile, say) but that's worse than useless (it could loop around and come back at you). But a ballistic missile -- once past the boost phase -- is, like something thrown by a trebuchet, guided only by gravity and air drag.
And of course the further away it launches from, the more time you have to figure out what it's doing.
If anyone is interested, not all theater 'ballistic' missiles follow a simple ballistic path. The SS-26 Iskander fielded by Russia is able to maneuver to defeat. The US proposed placing anti-ballistic missile defences in Poland (so that Iran can't blackmail Europe once the Iranians finally attain a nuclear weapon, since Iranian missiles now reach Europe). The Russian response had Dmitri Medvedev in November 2008 issuing orders to deploy Iskander to Kaliningrad so they could be used in a first (nuclear) str
Given that Israeli officials are currently the only information source for Iron Dome's amazing 90% success rate, surely we should be highly sceptical.
The Israelis have their own anti-ballistic missile missile, the Arrow [wikipedia.org], which has no doubt benefited from improvements in technology and years of refinements. It wouldn't surprise me if the Israelis now field a much better system than was possible in 1991, they're very clever and innovative when it comes to high technology.
Well rocket launches and subsequent interceptions are very public and half the worlds media were there watching it all happen right in front of them so the figures can't be too far off. In fact the IDF says today that overall the success rate was 84%
Looks quite successful here anyway.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxwCYZ6Zhew [youtube.com]
Marvelous! The super-user's going to boot me! What a finely tuned response to the situation!


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