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I assume that based on this judgement, van Eck phreaking [shmoo.com] (as featured in Cryptonomicon, and elsewhere) would also be considered illegal. I'm not up on US law, and don't know what difference there is considered to be between going into someone's home and someone's computer, but using van Eck (which isn't "in development", it's there now) to see what people are doing on their screens would seem to be similar to me. Are there any legal references to van Eck phreaking?
I presume that wiretaps are needed for phone-lines, but is that for speech only, or data as well? Echelon, and all the fun ways of looking at data, can get their information from lots of different places, and this, of course, is only one of them.
The law sometimes speaks in a language different from colloquial english; for example, "from time to time" is a phrase that seems vague to us, but has a specific technical legal meaning, and has for a long time.
It also strikes me as an excellent example of a case where "slippery slope" is a valid legal argument against the alternative. (Logicians are fond of pointing out that it is a fallacy in rhetoric, but law has its own rules.) What meaning does freedom from unlawful search have if the police can, given adequately advanced technology, listen in on all your conversations (telephone and physical), scan your computer monitors, [moving more and more far-off] count the change and cash stashed in your underwear drawer (imagine a microtransmitter in the place of the security strip in your large denomination bills), inventory your pockets (between smart cards, remote controls for car locks, digital "anti-theft" chips installed in keys, etc, this is not as implausible as it seems), and lift images from your brain using its ambient EM emissions, all without ever setting foot on your property?
As for possible Bush nominations, this is one area
where I hope he's like his Pa. Another nice independant thinker like Souter would be nice. The court doesn't need to become any more polarized.
All these 5-4 decisions are bad for the law, since
every time there is a new justice there's a possibility that almost identical issues could
be revisited.
I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations
The cops are allowed to perceive some wavelengths and not others. The condition of whether or not they're allowed to perceive a wavelength, is whether or not it is human-perceptable in it's raw form. The thinking behind this is probably that if people take precautions that give them a low-tech expectation of privacy, then they should be legally guaranteed (notwithstanding warrants) privacy against high-tech too, even if they haven't taken precautions to realistically give them an expectation of privacy.
You can see this type of thinking elsewhere:
It's fascinating how the legal system tries to redefine "due diligence" to exclude technological factors, so that the low-tech or ignorant people can blissfully be safe from having to consider technology.
As you can infer, I'm kinda opposed to this ruling. If you broadcast information (even if it's subtle, such as IR radiation), then it's public. I think law enforcement shouldn't need a warrant to be allowed to perceive information that is public.
OTOH, I like this ruling because it makes cops jobs harder, and that's an appropriate thing when a government is working against the interests of its citizens, as is the case with the Drug War.
In the words of the late Justice Robert Jackson: "We are not final because we are infallible, but infallible only because we are final."The constitution is nothing more than whatever five of nine old men in Washington think it is at the given moment. I know saying things like that makes some people uncomfortable, but I don't know how people can accept this institution as legitimate in the first place.
When there's a dispute over interpretation of the law or the Constitution, the buck has to stop somewhere. As much as I disagree with some of the decisions that the Supremes have handed down, I'd rather give the final authority to people who are somewhat insulated from the political process, rather than people who need to worry about re-election in six (or fewer) years.
However, I think the Court would be better off if justices had staggered thirty-five-year terms, instead of being appointed for life. Right now, if several justices happen to die or retire while the same party is in power, then that party can use the nomination process to (attempt to) stamp its ideology on the Court for decades after. If at least one seat on the Supreme had to turn over every four years, then political trends would influence judicial trends in a more controlled fashion.
It's not a dictatorship of the Supreme Court. If we don't like what they decide about the Constitution and laws, we can go to back to the legislative branch and change the Constitution or the laws. And if you don't like the system as a whole, guess what? You can change the system with Consititutional amendments.
It kinda sounds like you might be miffed about the Bush v. Gore decision that handed the election to Bush. Get over it, that decision will be seen in 100 years as a great decision. Think about what it would mean had it gone the other way. Then candidates could demand selective recounts based on whatever standards that favor them the most. Gore's mistake was to sue to extend the recount deadline. He should have let the recount finish, then challenged the results (as provided for in Florida law) based on the widespread reports of voting irregularities.
Also, you might want to inform O'Connor's and Ginsburg's husbands that their wives are actually grumpy old men. I'm sure it'll be news to them.
If this doesn't highlight the importance of strict constructionists on the Supreme Court, I don't know what does.
It's not his strict constructionist views that I have a problem with (indeed, I tend to agree with those) but his almost blind adherance to tradition without regard for changing social mores that cause me to disagree. Don't get me wrong: I respect Scalia a great deal. He's an incredibly well-versed Justice with a sharp legal mind, and his adherance to principle is admirable.
However, like the father in "Fiddler on the Roof" he shouts out "Tradition!" too frequently for my tastes. Unlike that father, though, Scalia fails to alter his opinions -- even in the slightest -- based on either new information or the simple fact that people's beliefs have changed. Social mores and taboos do (and should) change as time goes on. Scalia has given far too much weight to the way things were yesterday as a rationale for his decisions.
...And I really did think the majority's stance in the Florida recount was atrocious.- Rev.
I'd have to say there is a difference between drugs.
My wife and I have come to a realization about our arguments. Whenever someone says "That's different", then 90% of the time it's not different. I think this applies here. If it is a victimless crime, then it's a law based on morality. With laws against theft or physical violence, you have a party who raises a complaint about certain behvior. If there is no one complaining, then a law is, by definition, a consensual crime (or, as we're calling them in this conversation, a "moral law.")
The production and distribution of cocaine, heroin and crank have serious geo-political, criminal, social and in the case of crank, environmental side effects that pot, alcohol and tobacco do not have.
Hey man, you know what? If drugs were legalized many of those problems could be brought under control. Think about it: they're criminal because they're against the law, so legalizing would take care of the black market aspect as well as the problems of corrupt government officials. Legalizing would also allow them to be regulated, so that production facilities could be inspected and safe measures taken for workers and the environment. It'd fall under the same regulations as the pharmaceutical industries.
And remember: alcohol and tobacco kill more people per year than all other drugs *combined*. Let me repeat myself: alcohol and tobacco kill more people than heroin, cocaine, and methamphetamines put together.
Something to think about...- Rev.
Actually, given the current climate involving search-and-siezures, it might. One court just ruled that a cop had no right to assume a suspect had a gun (he did), just because he stuck his hand into his pocket when the cop approached.
Gore's "unwillingness to admit defeat" is irrelevant. The Court is supposed to be an impartial arbiter of justice, not a big daddy to slap around kids for fighting in the back seat. Gore had the right to the recourse of the legal system, and just because Scalia got ticked doesn't give him the right to reinterpret jurisdictions ad hoc to support the result he wants to see.
Virtually nothing you've said makes any sense, but I won't go on.
Boss of nothin. Big deal.
Son, go get daddy's hard plastic eyes.
As for emergency situations in general, the best policy (for police or anyone else) is to do what you have to, but be prepared to explain yourself to a court of law afterward and go to jail if they don't buy your explanation.
Now, let's watch that karma burn.
Whoa, you mean you'd prefer the Constitution to mean whatever the Executive Branch thinks it means today? Or the Legislative Branch?
> The real truth is that if Antonin Scalia's Lincoln Continental was hit a by Mac truck while he was boffing Ruth Bader Ginsburg in the back seat
Thanks for that image. I really needed that. I'm off to visit goatse.cx. To numb the pain.
Of course, at present, this technology is so not-publicly-available, that Officer Donut ain't the guy who's gonna be doing the snooping anyways. (If you're doing something for which your opponent is sniffing EM leakage, odds are your opponent doesn't need a warrant, 'cuz you're not gonna be going to trial
> Are there any legal references to van Eck phreaking?
Probably not for another 10-20 years.
After that point, it may be sufficiently declassified that Officer Donut will be allowed to use it with a warrant, and yesterday's Supreme Court ruling will apply to it.
No, you didn't. All you did was agree to be breath-tested (depending on what state you're in) at an officer's discretion. You can still refuse the breath test, but you've agreed that refusal to take a breath test has the same consequences as a DUI conviction.
> What about when I walk down the street? After all, if I don't want to be searched I could voluntarily return to my home never to leave again.
Not the same thing. There are no signs posted on the sidewalk that say "Entry to the sidewalk constitutes consent to search of your person and posessions".
Next time you're in an airport, look around the security checkpoint. You will find a sign that says access beyond the security checkpoint constitutes consent to search.
I'll disagree with you here -- you voluntarily give up your Fourth Amendment right against search as a condition of entering the secured area of the airport.
This applies for domestic and international flights, and the signage in front of the security checkpoint is pretty clear. In exchange for the right to claim your boarding pass, you agree to be subject to search of your property (baggage X-ray, baggage bomb/dope-sniffer wand) and person (walk-through metal detector, metal-detector wand, pat-down and beyond at guard's discretion).
It's all in the fine print of the airline contract, and in the bold print of the sign in front of the checkpoint. If you decide you don't want to be searched, you're free to turn away from the checkpoint and not board an aircraft.
This scanner you're referring to does NOT work "50 feet away".
www.cnn.com travel news 2000-08-21 [cnn.com]
I couldn't find a larger image than the one in this CNN story; you get body shape with ghostly clothing over it. The subject has to stand on a platform inches away from the scanner. It's to be used where strip-searches would otherwise be warranted, or in high-profile airport situations.
If he looks through your window using a pair of spectacles, he is not violating your rights.
If he looks through your curtains using a pair of X-Ray Spex, he is violating your rights.
That's why the ruling focussed on the use of equipment not available to the general public. Surveillance with the unaided senses, or with the senses aided by everyday items such as spectacles and hearing aids, is permissible. Surveillance with high-tech devices (by the standards of the day) requires a warrant. Unfortunately the dissenting judges didn't appear to understand this distinction. From the Washington Post:
Stevens overlooked the fact that nothing can be learned about conditions inside the home by measuring signals that are independent of conditions inside the home. Any sensor that is physically located outside the home is measuring conditions outside, but those conditions may reveal an unacceptable amount of information about conditions inside (as in the case of X-Ray Spex that use x-ray levels outside the home to determine the positions of objects inside the home).In his dissent, Stevens drew a distinction between "through-the-wall surveillance," which he said was impermissible, and "off-the-wall surveillance" that records conditions outside, but not inside, a home. Since the thermal imaging device that was pointed at Kyllo's home only recorded heat levels outside the structure, "the officers' conduct did not amount to a search and was perfectly reasonable," he said.
Just an aside, by way of agreement with your analysis of Scalia. One of my best friends is clerking for Scalia this year and has told me several times that Scalia is the smartest person on the SC and the finest legal mind he knows of.
I have zero tolerance for zero-tolerance policies.
Although it's demonstrably false, most people do have expectations of privacy when it comes to the Internet. That's why encryption hasn't taken off nearly as much (analogy: closing the blinds on the window).
The government was watching the light bulbs inside the house. It was not watching smoke emerging from the chimney, or feeling heat on the walls of the house. (As I recall, in this case, the lamps were in the attic, and the heat coming from the roof.)
It really comes down to what is reasonably considered to be in "plain view." Once you put your trash out for collection, it is, but while it is on the back porch in the trash can, it isn't. If you can see it from a window by the front door it isn't, but if you can see it with a telesecope from the church steeple 5 blocks away, it isn't.
It all comes down to the word "reasonable", in the context of home privacy. They sat 9 grandmas and grandpas down, and came out with this result. Change the facts a little, and maybe the votes are different. In this area of the law it is possible to overcomplicate it.
In general, home cases are mostly about the privacy of the home, not the needs of police. If he'd been doing this growing in the empty room above his gas station, he'd have been nailed for sure.
Pot odors would be enough to get a warrant for sure. Loud music, if a distubance of the peace, could justify him going up and knocking on the door and getting a better whiff. Heck, might justify an arrest w/o a warrant, but I don't think so.
The justification for scanning Kyllo is that he lived NEXT DOOR to somebody the cops suspected of growing pot. No noise, no smell, no bother, no justification, just random nosiness.
They could, but they normally wouldn't. It's far too risky.
Why? Because if you were growing tomatos there, or had a really snazzed out aquarium setup (especially a coral reef one) they could get a false positive. Busting into your house to find out you had nothing would garner all sorts of media attention. Worse, the judge who had been lied to would start asking some very very hard questions.
Police do not typically risk their careers over such trivial violations.
I recall reading some time ago that in certain area, the pollen count for marijuana was extremely high. In this case, establishing that type of empirical evidence may be sufficient for a judge to sign a warrant.
If I also recall, part of this case originated with much higher than normal consumption of electrcity in the guys home. That information was not private.
Dogs are not generally considered to be technology, so that likely has an effect on such rulings. Another issue that may come into play if someone tried to use this ruling against trained dogs is the level to which your privacy is invaded in the process of finding out about illegal activity. On this issue I'd say they are totally different. Dogs don't come into your home unless there is already a warent for your home. You don't encounter them unless you are already in a public place - which is probably why they are considered just a part of the officer. More importantly, a dog trained to sniff for drugs tells the officer he thinks he smells drugs. A dog trained to sniff for guns tell the officer he thinks he smells guns. He does not observe, record or report anything else about you, even if he has the senses to know that you also have been shagging your secretary, not using deodorent and have a twelve year old's soiled panties in your pocket. Other forms of warentless search/observation that are being rejected may have more of a capicity to invade your law abiding privacy in the course of finding illegal activity. Libertarians probably don't care if a form of warentless seach/observation is finely tuned to only detect an illegal activity without infringing at all on the rest of a person's privacy, but I suspect that it will matter to most folks.
If the use of dogs hasn't been rejected before this, I doubt this ruling would be the one to revisit the issue. They really aren't that similar.
Kahuna Burger (just posted this AC, but it killed my moderation anyway, so screw that.)
If we follow this to the end, the police should make available to the public all their databases, for instance those that record the "modus operandi" of criminals. If they are not allowed to use heat sensors to look inside my house, they shouldn't use computers to look into my personal habits either.
The powers of the Federal Congress, for instance, are exhaustive; it is perfectly correct to argue that, if the authority is not granted in Article I, Section VII, the US Congress may not do it. It is not correct to argue, however, that because the right of an individual to do something is not listed in the Bill of Rights, or elsewhere in the Constitution, that individual may not do it. If this sort of argument were possible, it would easily allow judges to argue laws into existence, and circumvent the legislature.
So you're quite right to say that it's
not an exhaustive list. I have the
Constitutionally protected right to
petition for redress of my grievances,
and the Constitutionally unprotected
right to floss my teeth before bedtime.
The difference is that a law might
legitimately be passed to prevent my
flossing, if the dentists' lobby found
it was losing money.
I found this comment to be particularly interesting:
one of those "others" is privacy, like it or not
It is? Whether I like it or not? Because, I suppose, you *do* like it. Well, frankly, I like it too, but to the contrary, it ain't there. Should be, IMO, but is not.
Along the same line, though, which other rights do we have, whether we like them or not? The right to health insurance? The right to a fair wage? The right to affordable daycare? I've heard these things and others argued by people in high positions. There are no textual bounds on the rights the courts can concoct for me, so any distinction you make between uses of the word 'right' are bound to be contentious and easily usurped. Having abandoned the need to write down our laws, perhaps they'll give me the right to a new car; that would be nice, anyway.
Following your expansive interpretation of the Ninth, it's hard to see any real distinction between the Legislature and the Judiciary, except that the judges are more dangerous and less accountable lawmakers. It's a cheerful fantasy to think that, given such unlimited power, the Judiciary would prove to be wise and benevolent rulers, protecting our freedom. One might entertain the same hopes about kings, with as much historical grounding.
I must say as well that it seems very ironic that you'd quote Jefferson, that great advocate of judicial restraint, to support your position. A few of many quotes which give a better view of Jefferson's opinion of judicial activism:
This member of government was at first considered as the most harmless of all its organs. But it has proved that the power of declaring what law is, ad libitum, by sapping and mining, slyly, and without alarm, the foundations of the Constitution, can do what open force would not dare to attempt
The concrete nature of law is one of the greatest things we have in defense of liberty. Viewing the Ninth as a carte blanche for (especially unelected Federal) officials to make up what rights suit their tastes is not only textually unjustified, but would be practically disasterous.
A few other points:
The tax-&-spend war on (some) drugs is
So what? The Federal Constitution itself has self-evidently racist roots. We still use it.
and provably racist effects today,
Umm... what is a 'racist effect'? People may be racists; motives may be racist; effects are just effects. Even looking past your wording to what I believe you're saying here, this point is hard to justify in my view. As it happens, I would like to see most drugs legalized, and most federal drug laws struck down on 10th Amendment grounds, but that's another matter.
Which is just what I said. Or can you point out to me an occasion when the ennumeration of certain rights in the Constitution was actually used to deny or disparage others?
Statutory laws have been used many times to deny and disparage people's rights. The ennumerated rights have not. End of story.
To put it in simple terms, privacy's not there, so privacy's there.
How do you know it's there?
Really. How? Because it fits with your political theories of the proper role of government? Other people have different beliefs, and will extrapolate different rights. Can you prove that your notion of rights is the true one? I have to doubt it.
What we have in common are laws. We have enough trouble deciding what they mean, but at least they're tangible.
Your flossing example rings only-too-true these days, frankly it makes my point better than it makes yours
I disagree. I don't think it makes your case at all. The fact that a law is bad does not make that law unconstitutional. The fact that you'd like a particular law to be unconstitutional does not make that law unconstitutional either. It does not even mean they should be unconstitutional, really.
If a law is bad, that just means that that law shouldn't have been passed. Same way that if a constituional provision is bad, it just means it's a provision which shouldn't have been passed. Some bad sorts of laws we have categorically proscribed; others we haven't.
I've never said that judges should be able to argue laws into existence on the basis of the Ninth
Nor have you said what would prevent them from doing so if they chose. Sure, they do that now; you're championing a reading of the Ninth which would vastly increase their ability to do so. A broad interpretation of the Ninth inherently involves increasing judicial power. It does not inherently involve your notion of how that power should be used.
Granted, if the judges used their power wisely, as you suggest, all would be well. Is this a good strategy for us to pursue, then, to protect what liberty we have? I think it an exceedingly poor strategy.
Besides which, the Court is under no obligation to the Constitution that Congress is not under also. Why not convince Congressmen to repeal laws which violate our unwritten rights? At least we can attempt to do this without giving them more power than they already have.
Think of a ratchet that only turns one way
That's obviously what you're thinking of. Convince me it'll only turn one way. Either tell me that your reading will not increase Judicial power, or furnish me with some guarantee that it's a one-way rachet.
All of our political history has been spent in search of a one-way rachet.
The "textual bounds on the rights the courts can concoct" in the case of a 'fair wage' would be the contract clause
That's not much of a boundry. Right off the bat, it wouldn't stop federal courts from declaring 'fair wage' rights at all. And even the state courts wouldn't have to impair the obligation of contracts; they could forbid people to enter into certain sorts of contracts. Greasy? Sure. What will you do, take them to court?
To the extent that we don't have unpopular 'positions' being decreed by an unelected judiciary, it's a good thing, not a bad one.
The "So what" about the tax-&-spend drugwar's racist past is that a lot fewer people know about it (or admit it) than should
Should why? For educational purposes? Sure. But I see no way in which this bears on our political evaluation of the laws themselves.
Just look at the crack vs powder disparity of the US sentencing commission, which should upset you much more than it apparently does, since it usurps judicial determinations of leniency in many cases.
I do not, in general, approve of the ability of judges to pick and choose punishments for crimes. It is my opinion that punishments should be as objectively determined and applied as possible; I can think of few reasons why two people who break the same law should receive different punishments. If there's racism about, it's more in the fact that courts sentence blacks more harshly for the same crimes. Again, I call for reigning in the judiciary.
Go visit any US prison, look at the drug inmates, and remember that this country is about 11% black. If you see 11% black inmates, I want to know what prison it is. Typical rates are more like over 50%.
Murder rates amongst blacks are much higher than amongst whites, also. Are our murder laws racist also?
This is simply not a cogent line of reasoning. Further, to view things in such a way denies individuals the sort of personal responsibility which life in a free society requires. People break the law of their own choice, not because they are black or white. Nothing in the act of outlawing a particular drug usurps the rights of people of one race over those of another. Whatever the punishment is for crack or power cocaine, the laws do not curtail my freedom more or less than another's whatever his race.
Now it is my opinion that such laws are bad ones. If I had my way, most of these drugs would be made legal, and non-violent 'offenders' promptly released. This would, as you point out, benefit more black people than white people; but neither would my choice be a racist one for favoring blacks. Those consequences would be incidental.
The problem with seeing the Tenth in the absence of the Ninth is that Tallahassee can then take over where Washington DC left off in the oppression-game.
Indeed, state soverignty is not an unproblematic policy. It is, however, an undeniable feature of our Constitution. The fact that this may have unpalatable implications does not make it otherwise.
since the Ninth (IMO) covers recreational drug use (like it or not)
It would be hard to put the paradox of your postion more succinctly. 'In your opinion', 'like it or not'. What does this mean? I agree that it is your opinion. I do not agree with your opinion, but I agree that it is your opinion, 'like it or not'. You seem to mean also that it's the Truth, 'like it or not', as if the Truth of the Ninth Amendment were some Platonic thing-a-ma-jig, to which you had some strange congnitive access. If this is the case, please explain it.
If you think that the Ninth (or the Third, for that matter) is an inkblot, then by all means, go argue for repeal!
Why on earth would I do that? I approve of both of them. I am pleased that soldiers are not being forcibly quartered in people's houses in times of peace, and I am glad that our ennumerated rights are not being construed to deny or disparage other rights. I just don't think they're particularly significant amendments. The most obvious reading seems to support my view.
We have a mechanism for handling changes in belief, social mores, and taboos. It is called the amendment process.Unlike that father, though, Scalia fails to alter his opinions -- even in the slightest -- based on either new information or the simple fact that people's beliefs have changed. Social mores and taboos do (and should) change as time goes on.
To the extent that we allow prevailing wisdom to change the meaning of the Constitution over time, we might as well not have a constitution.
The point is that the Constitution has a built-in mechanism for handling such changes, the amendment process.So, it's your opinion that social mores, etc., have only changed 26 times in the last 200+ years? The constitution is written in deliberately vague terms to permit flexibility. It's a set of guidelines, not a deatiled set of rules. If a document as rigid as you suggest were written, what would be the point of Congress?
The amendment process is difficult, and wisely so. The supreme law of the land should not be changed at the whim of current political fad. The basic foundation of our government should change only when a consensus can be reached that such a change is right.
It is true that there are parts of the Constitution that two fair-minded people can read, and disagree on the meaning. However, I maintain that this is often less an honest disagreement than one party so wanting the the Constitution to support his view (or the prevailing social mores) that he is willing to twist its plain meaning out of all recognition. (I have the commerce clause in mind in particular.)
If you think that the Constituion is a set of guidelines, rather than rules, I suggest you go back and read it again. There is section after section of details on how the federal government is to be structured, and what powers are granted the various branches of the federal government. And because the Founders didn't trust fallible people to stick to those powers expressly granted the government by the Constitution, there are many rules specifying things the government specifically may not do.
To the extent that we as a people insist on the government staying within the bounds of the Constitution, to that extent we will safeguard our rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. To the extent that we allow government to act outside the Constitution, to that extent we will be at the mercy of any arbitrary whims the Congress and President can get past some old people in robes.
If you propose a wonderful advance in our laws and institutions that contradicts the Constitution, and it really is wonderful, then convince enough people to amend the Constitution.They ascribe to the men of the preceding age a wisdom more than human, and suppose what they did to be beyond amendment...
By the way, I suspect the context "amendment" in Jefferson's quote was not that of formal amendment; I was just making a lucky play on words. But the principle stands...the Constitution is a flexible document that defines itself how it may evolve through amendment. We do not need to render the Constitution meaningless by reinterpreting it to fit the fashions of the day.
I was just maintaining on another branch of this thread that it is good our US Constitution is subject to change, via its formal amendment process. Is that what you mean? If so, I don't get the point. On the other hand, our US federal government has done many things over the years that are clearly unconstitutional to any reasonable (non-lawyer) person. I agree that is bad, and welcome any and all support in opposing it, be you American or not.The thing we have most fun with is your constitution you hold so dear. It's been through more changes than an epileptic's etch-a-sketch.
Yes, our Constitution recognizes the pre-existing right to keep and bear arms for legitimate use. Could you give me a reference to the part of the US Constitution that legitimizes murder (and later stupidity by being annoyed at the police for arresting a murderer)?Through this constitution you are allowed to have a gun and shoot your family and then get annoyed when the police try and arrest you.
I have European friends, but have never heard the term "ickle." Could you define? Anyway, call it reform if you like, but violating the rights of people is tyranny. Whether an idea goes "out of date" by the standards of a European troll is irrelevant to whether the idea is right or wrong.Most other nations got over this centuries ago, but as you're still a ickle baby, you've got some growing up to do first. Most countries called it reform. People realise the ideas they held on to for years are way out of date, and they drop them. Maybe if you didn't spend half an hour a day saluting the American flag, you'd realise it's not all that it's cracked up to be
Anyone with just a bit of history knows that the US Founders were deeply influenced by several European thinkers. And even with the disturbing things our government has done over the years, when it comes to liberty, I'll stack the good old USA up against any country issue-by-issue. We'll lose some, but come out ahead overall.(And all that liberty and freedom stuff you go on about as if you invented it? that's available off the shelves in Europe, most of Africa, large portions of Asia, and all of Australasia)
I was referring to you saying you had been laughing at Americans for years, poking fun at the US Constitution, and calling America an "ickle baby." You do not see the trollishness, and just plain rudeness, in this?You see, this is the problem with Slashdot. Someone makes a good point, I answer and I'm called a Troll. Nice'n'fair.
Yet another mark of the troll...posting to a thread he does not care about. But anyway, perhaps others are listening, perhaps not.I obviously don't care as much about this debate as you do, so I won't write a 400 line response.
You also do not care much about accuracy...from your latest post...
I never said it was legal to murder your family (but it is legal to murder criminals - who are someone else's family).
How is that not saying it was legal to murder your family? I guess you could shoot them so that they don't die, but I doubt that is what you meant.Through this constitution you are allowed to have a gun and shoot your family [...]
Here we go again. The US Constitution has been amended about 27 times (not sure about the exact number) in 200+ years. Someone in another branch of this thread is complaining about how hard the amendment process is. The US Constitution has worked remarkably well over time, to the extent that we Americans have insisted that our government abide by it.What I don't get about your constitution is that you keep banging on about guns, saying they are your constitutional right and that you will never get rid of them, but your constitution has been changed 8,000 times this week alone, highlighting the point that you can just AMMEND your constitution to not allow every redneck hick to have an assault rifle.
Yes, we could amend our Constitution to remove its recognition of the right to keep and bear arms, but I doubt that will happen anytime soon.
To have an intelligent discussion of US liberty vs. that of another country, we will have to get specific. Did you have some country in mind?We'll lose some, but come out ahead overall. Some = vietnam, racial segregation, inner-city violence, every fuckup in WW2, Kyoto, Overall = what, exactly? guns for all?
Your rights to freedom are nothing special at all. I have rights to do whatever I want to do. But, unlike you, I don't want to run around my house with an AK47.
Must be handy to be able to see in the dark, eh? Care to tell us where you went for the eyeball upgrade?
The Supreme Court can nullify laws, although realistically, they don't all that often. They can review lower court actions. They can wag a finger at the other two branches. All of these are well-established in the common law of the US and well-understood throughout the legal system.
They are not a dictatorship, firstly, because more than one speaks. More importantly, they are appointed through the elected representatives and serve under the (distant) review of the legislature. Consistent and clarion violations of their jurisdiction could -- and, probably, would -- be met with impeachment and removal. Additionally, Congress essentially controls their budget. It didn't quite work but FDR's court-packing scheme illustrates another indirect check.
More significantly, if the Court rules in a way that fundamentally offends the American people -- that really and truly violates, in an inarguable way, the precepts of the Republic -- then the American people, through their elected representatives or directly, can amend the Constitution so as to correct the flaw. This is of course the atom bomb of judicial interventions and so is used rarely.
Now, you might have your laundry list of rulings that "fundamentally offend". They might involve flag burning, or capital punishment, or abortion, or suspects' rights, or police powers. The Court may have ruled, at some point, in a manner inimical to your heartfelt and cherished beliefs about the core values of American civil society, and you might very well feel that they have undermined the very Republic.
But if the country hasn't risen up to pass an amendment to support you, I would argue you're talking smoke.
Interestingly, the poster had one thing right: The Court's power is extra-Constitutional, in that the primary power of judicial review is not (specifcially) mentioned in the Constitution. (Really. Go check. [cornell.edu]) It was argued, most successfully by Chief Justice Marshall, that such a power is implied in the mission of the Court, but it isn't stated. (This, ironically, means that even the most "strict constructionist" Supreme must, at heart, be somewhat of an interpretationalist.)
If that's the case, how can the Court function? Because, by and large, they do a good job... good enough that the people trust them and respect their judgments. The biggest problem with the Supreme Court involvement in the election was not the decision they made. (I admit it, I think they goofed.) It was the clumsy and ill-odored manner in which they got involved.
For me, one of the high points of American democracy and dedication to the rule of Law came during 1974. The Watergate prosecutor subpoenaed the Oval Office tapes from Richard Nixon, and Nixon refused to surrender them. He tried to bluff the prosecutor, but the prosecutor stood fast. A district court said, "Mr. Nixon, hand over the tapes." The appellate court said, "Mr. Nixon, hand over the tapes." And so he went to the Supreme Court (including a number of justices he himself had appointed) and claimed privelege. The Supreme Court said, "Mr. Nixon, hand over the tapes."
Picture the scene: On the one hand is Richard Nixon, President of the United States of America: chief executive, commander-in-chief, the single most powerful man in the world. At his fingertips he commanded the resources of the FBI, the CIA, Secret Service, the DoD, literally millions of armed personnel. In Maryland, not too far away, was the 82nd Airborne, a mobil and elite fighting force capable of siezing a city in a matter of hours.
Against that, stood "nine old men" clothed only in black robes and the Law.
The President capitulated and surrendered the tapes.
If that doesn't send a thrill down your spine, you haven't been paying attention. I say, bring on the justices and bless them for the splendid, if fallible, job they do.
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But I read the opinion. The bright line distinction is that the police used technology that the general public does not use.
If I leave the curtains open on my windows, I have no right to expect people not to look at what can plainly be seen through them from outside my property, even through a backyard-astronomer-grade telescope, two blocks over. But I do expect to be able to speak to my wife or children and not have a TLA van train a laser on one of those windows to pick up the vibrations of our voices. They need a court order to carry out such a "search".
Now, if we apply the reasoning to laws against "hacking", we see the absurdity of a law that presumes an expectation that people won't use technology that is plainly common in (that segment of) the public. If I put a box on the net and have a daemon listening on port 80, I have no reason to bitch about people trying to access web pages from it. It's up to me to close the curtains.
This puts Lawn Forcement in a tricky situation: They can't (admit to) use snoop technology without a proper warrant and enforce laws against the general public using the same technology (by definition preventing it from use by the public). They have to choose one or the other. So don't be surprised if some currently-illegal private uses of low-grade spy stuff are legalized in the near future.
But how does these emissions differ materially from, say light bouncing off people in the midst of committing some heinous crime, while in the privacy of their own backyard, or while inside their home in front of an open window ? Should that not be sufficient for law enforcement to take action ? How about sound waves emanating from the sounds of a crime in progress ? Should those sound waves be private, too ?
i don't really understand why everyone seems so shocked that scalia would be against such searches....true blue conservatives don't want the government to have power to intrude into our private lives. private property was one the basic rights this country was founded upon.
The Democrats blocked the Bork nomination because Bork was the Solicitor General under Nixon that fired the Watergate special prosecutor Archibald Cox. Attorney General Elliot L. Richardson, refused to dismiss Cox and resigned in protest. His deputy, William Ruckelshaus, also refused and was fired. Nixon's solicitor general, Robert H. Bork, who was next in command, then fired Cox.
When Bork is willing to fire a special prosecutor in order to help Nixon cover up a crime, it's pretty clear that he's not Supreme Court Justice material.
Does anyone else find it disturbing that the FBI always seems so eager to do "this sort of thing" (e.g. Carnivore)? What motivates these people? They are people, by the way. The FBI is usually referred to as an entity separate from any individual, but it boils down to some people trying to spy on their fellow citizens.
If your point of view differs from mine, try thinking about this comment as if it were sarcastic.
I know they have used abnormal power consumption as an indicator of pot farms (all those grow lights and hydroponics).
So, if you factor in power consumption and heat signature, a server farm might look a lot like a pot farm.
WORD TO THE WISE: If you are growing illegal drugs in you house, you should buy at least a T1 and connect it to your "garden." That way you can claim you are just running an internet business. And you have the added bounus of being able to FINGER the plants to see how each is doing!
George Washington
Thomas Jefferson
John Adams
Thousands of other American Revolutionaries
Susan B. Anthony
Mahatma Ghandi
Jesus of Nazareth
Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
Phillip Zimmerman
Rosa Parks
Forgive me for forgetting that our purpose as human beings is to worship and revere the arbitrarily-chosen laws in the geographic region we happen to be born into.
The specific technology, Forward Looking Infrared Radar, has been successfully used to bust thousands of marijuana growing operations over the last few decades. These people's lives were ruined: they were arrested, imprisoned, fined, and subjected to forfeiture of their assets. Between the fines and the asset forfeiture, police nationwide have bought more helicopters, tactical weapons, body armor, dogs, and other Rambo toys--all to use against Americans in the War on (Some) Drugs.
When a law or investigative procedure is found to violate basic Constitutional rights, the ruling should be applied retroactively all the way back to the enactment of said law or investigative procedure. Anyone caught by FLIR should have their fines reimbursed, criminal record expunged, and their assets returned--including all of the plants they were growing, down to the specific strain and height. What sucks is that this won't happen--the case just gets remanded to the lower court, who can decide in this one case whether there was any other evidence available to justify a warrantless search. Anybody who wants this applied to their case will have to hire an expensive lawyer: a ridiculous proposition for someone who no longer has a home to mortgage because it was seized.
This WO(S)D has been nothing but a gateway to a full-blown police state. I'm hoping that this ruling marks the end of the "But Won't Someone Think of the Children???" era that characterized the 80's and 90's and launches the "But Won't Someone Think of the Constitution???" era.
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Three first place finishes highlighted a strong first outing of the season for the PCM girls track and field team Tuesday night in Chariton, as the Mustangs' took part in a five-team early season meet. PCM got a first place finish from Brilee McWilliams in the discus, Rachel Peter in the 3000 meter run and the shuttle hurdle relay team of Shelby Palm, Lexi Kain, Macey Walker and Kelsey Townsend also placed first.
PCM also earned four second-place medals and had four events finish in third place as well. No team scores were kept at the meet. The Mustang girls will be back in action in the PCM Invitational on Tuesday.
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1st – Rachel Peter, 3000m run, 12:38.51
1st – Shuttle Hurdle Relay (Shelby Palm, Lexi Kain, Macey Walker, Kelsey Townsend), 1:13.77
2nd – Kelsey Townsend, 100 Hurdles, 17.63
2nd – Lexi Kain, 400 Dash, 1:01.54
2nd – Kelsey Townsend, 400 Hurdles, 1:17.58
2nd – Lexi Kain, 200 Dash, 28.13
3rd – Brilee McWilliams, Shot Put, 34'2.75"
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Chaco Culture National Historical Park
Chaco Culture National Historical Park is a major unit of the United States national park system located just outside Navajo Nation in New Mexico. It preserves extensive ruins of prehistoric American Indian communities. Chaco is on the UNESCO World Heritage List.
Flora and fauna
Chaco, like most of northwestern New Mexico, has a high desert climate with four distinct seasons. Spring is dry and windy, with high temperatures rising rapidly from an average of 60 degrees Fahrenheit or so in March to over 80 F in June. Summer is hot, with highs frequently above 90 F, and with much of the average year's precipitation falling in isolated, brief but violent thunderstorms. However, it's the legendary "dry heat" that doesn't feel nearly as hot as in regions with higher humidity. Cooling starts in August and leads to a dry, temperate fall season that is usually a good time to visit Chaco. Winter is also pleasant with highs around 50 F and clear skies, although there are usually three or four frontal storms each winter that bring snow, usually in small quantities but with the occasional major snowstorm. The remoteness of the park is such that it's a good idea to check a weather forecast before visiting in the winter; Farmington, about 60 miles away, usually experiences similar weather, and its current conditions and forecast are updated regularly. If there's significant snow (say 6" or more) in the forecast, it's wise to defer your trip unless you're particularly well prepared for snowy roads.
Get in
Drive. The nearest city with air service is Farmington (New Mexico), about 60 miles north, which is served by a commuter airline (Mesa) that is a partner with United Airlines. The nearest major airport is in Albuquerque about 150 miles southeast. There is no rail or bus service in this remote region.
Older maps of the Chaco area may lead drivers astray owing to a road closure. This quote from the NPS web site (link below) gives current driving directions: "Hwy 57 from Blanco Trading Post (on US 550) is permanently closed at the park's north boundary. Do not take Hwy 57. From US 550, go to mile 112.5 (3 miles SE mile of Nageezi) and turn onto CR 7900 and CR 7950. Follow signs to the park. Hwy 57 south is open from the park boundary to Hwy 9. There is 20 miles of rough dirt road. Not recommended for RVs."
Entrance fees for the park are $4 for individuals, $8 for cars, and are good for seven days. The National Park Service's "Park Pass" ($50/year) secures unlimited repeat entries for this and other National Park Service units. Campsites (see below under "Sleep") are $10/night, with a $5 discount for holders of a Park Pass.
Permits are required for backcountry hiking. They're free and available at the visitor center.
Get around
The main sites are reached via a short loop road that is suitable for bicycles as well as cars; in fact, it's quite a comfortable ride that gives a more intimate sense of the canyon than you'll get from a car. If you are biking, make sure your tires resist punctures, as all manner of plants with thorns and spines grow in the park.
The short trails to the sites along the loop road can be visited in street shoes, but hiking boots are a good idea if you're planning on visiting any of the more remote areas described under "Do." Some but not all of the sites are wheelchair-accessible, as is one of the campsites at the park campground.
While there is a visitor center with exhibits (open 9-5 except major holidays), the park's trademark attraction is the collection of major ruins along the loop road in the canyon bottom. Some can be seen from the car, but more rewarding is to follow the short, easy trails at each that lead to and through the ruins. Pamphlets explain the important features of the sites. The ruins trails are open from sunrise to sunset; visiting with the sun near the horizon yields particularly appealing opportunities for photography.
There are four trails leading to remote ruins, all available for day use and closed after sundown. Probably the most interesting is the trail to Peñasco Blanco ruin, which has become famous for a well-preserved pictograph thought by some to represent the great supernova of 1054. This pictograph is under a rock alcove below the main Peñasco Blanco structures. Please treat it respectfully; this is a rare find in the world of anthropology.
All trails require free permits available at the visitor center. Hiking boots are a good idea, and carry plenty of water.
The visitor center includes a small gift shop and book store. For more elaborate memorabilia, stop in one of the towns you passed through on the way in, or if you're fortunate enough to be there at the time of a Navajo rug auction in nearby Crownpoint, give it a try (see under "Get out").
You'll have to bring your own food, as there is no food service at Chaco. Farmington/Bloomfield/Aztec, Gallup, and Grants, at least one of which you'll have to pass through en route to the park, have the usual restaurants and grocery stores. Crownpoint, the town nearest the park, has very basic food service.
There's no night life at the park; that's why it's there. The nearest town with any night life is Farmington. Note that alcoholic beverages in any form are prohibited within Navajo Nation, which occupies the area immediately west of the park.
The nearest hotels and motels are in Farmington, about 60 miles north, and in communities along Interstate highway 40 (e.g. Gallup and Grants), a similar distance south.
The park includes a single, rudimentary campground. Fee $10/site/night ($5 with NPS Park Pass). There is no potable water, but bottled water may be purchased at the nearby visitor center. Vehicles (RVs, trailers) must be no longer than 30 feet.
No backcountry camping/backpacking is permitted within the park.
Stay safe
There are no significant safety issues with the park itself (usual warnings about wildlife, sunscreen, etc.), but its remoteness means that you may want to pay a little extra attention to road safety while getting there and back. Northern New Mexico is notorious for problems with drunk drivers. Areas near Navajo Nation, as Chaco is, are particularly worrisome around payday (Thursday or Friday), as the prohibition of alcohol on the reservation drives alcoholic residents, of whom there are too many, to drive into Farmington or Gallup to indulge. Terrible accidents have happened involving Navajo Nation citizens on the way home after an evening of drinking; be extra cautious at such times.
Be alert also for livestock on the roads, particularly sheep. It's wise to fill your gas tank in Farmington or Gallup (or Grants or Thoreau) before heading for the park, as services are sparse indeed once you get off the main roads.
Get out
External links
http://www.nps.gov/chcu/index.htm Park home page


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Memorial Day, although specifically a day to honor those who died in battle, has become a time to wax nostalgic about those who have gone before.
The East Hampton Ladies Village Improvement Society, which keeps up the approximately 3,800 trees that grace the streets of the village, offers an opportunity to pay homage to a loved one while helping to defray the nonprofit group's tree maintenance expenses. A plaque can be placed by an existing tree, or accompany the planting of a new tree, for $750.
"We have memorial plaques that go back to 1938," said Olivia Brooks, the head of the L.V.I.S.'s tree committee. "The big hurricane was an impetus to raise monies after the loss of trees."
Ms. Brooks also stressed that a dedication is not just to honor someone who has died. "It can be bought for a birthday, an anniversary, a family celebration," she said. "It's a great way to celebrate and give back a piece of green to this beautiful village."
The $750 covers the cost of the plaque along with the "adoption" of a tree, and if anything happens to either the plaque or the tree, the L.V.I.S. will make replacements at no additional charge. "The $750 is like an insurance policy," Ms. Brooks said. If the interested parties want the plaque paired with a particular tree, "the cost is a little more," said Ms. Brooks. "We try to give people choices of tree sites before they select one."
The brass plaque is secured into the top of a monument and sunk into wet cement by a professional mason. This year, Ms. Brooks said, there were about 30 plaques lost or damaged by storms, and the mason is replacing those.
Over 530 dedications already grace the trees in East Hampton, whose yearly upkeep, split between the L.V.I.S. and the village, can run around $300,000.


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Study demonstrates plastic ingestion delivers pollutants and additives into animal tissue
With global production of plastic exceeding 280 metric tons every year, a fair amount of the stuff is bound to make its way to the natural environment. However, until now researchers haven't known whether ingested plastic transfers chemical additives or pollutants to wildlife. A new study conducted by an NCEAS researcher shows that toxic concentrations of pollutants and additives enter the tissue of animals that have eaten microplastic. The findings are published today in Current Biology.
There were two primary objectives for the study: to look at whether chemicals from microplastic move into the tissues of organisms; and to determine any impacts on the health and the functions that sustain biodiversity. Lab experiments exposed lugworms (Arenicola marina) to sand with 5 percent microplastic (polyvinylchloride) that also contained common chemical pollutants (nonylphenol, phenanthrene) and additives (Triclosan, PBDE-47). Results showed that pollutants and additives from ingested microplastic were present in the worms' tissues at concentrations that compromise key functions that normally sustain health and biodiversity.
"The work is important because current policy in the US and abroad considers microplastic as non-hazardous," said lead author Mark A. Browne, a postdoctoral fellow at NCEAS. "Yet our study shows that additives, such as Triclosan (an antimicrobial) that are incorporated into plastics during manufacture, caused mortality and diminished the ability of the lugworms to engineer sediments. Large accumulations of microplastic have the potential to impact the structure and functioning of marine ecosystems."
Microplastic moves pollutants and additives to worms reducing functions linked to health and biodiversity
Mark A. Browne, Stewart J. Niven, Tamara S. Galloway, Steve J. Rowland, Richard C. Thompson
Current Biology, December, 2013
UCSB News Release
More information about Browne's research
During the preparation of the manuscript Browne was supported as a post-doctoral fellow at NCEAS, a Center funded by NSF (Grant # EF-0553768), University of California, Santa Barbara, and the State of California.


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If GENO Smith is on the board at 9 the Jets will not hesitate to grab him. A QB is more valuable than a damn guard and a pass-rusher.
Don't ge me wrong we could certainly use a top notch pass rusher like Jarvis Jones or Dion Jordan or Ansah but not at the expense of a QB.


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In our group of friends, when we do overnight activities, we have a rule: all the snorers sleep together in the same area, away from the rest of us who would be disrupted by it. I've also seen this rule in place at other get-away events. Problem solved.
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An update from Muzamil, MBA '12 in Entrepreneurship, who traveled to Latin America with the Cox Global Leadership Program:
What a place. From the moment we landed and saw the scenery, I could tell we were in for something special. The city was alive, people were moving, and it was a much more lively pace than Sao Paulo.
We got into the hotel, and as tired as we were, we had to check out the city. A group of us walked along the beach and found a bar and had a decent, not-so-expensive meal. It was incredibly satisfying! We also met a few locals who showed us some places to go to. We took a walk along the coast. The smell of the ocean breeze was incredibly refreshing. Finished the night off by drinking straight from a coconut out of a straw!
Last day in Rio
What an incredible time in Rio. Today, a few friends and I walked probably 5 or 6 miles. Hotel – Market – Hotel – Copa Cabana – Hotel. The market was incredible, reminded me of the markets in Vienna and Dubai. Prices were reasonable, nothing like Sao Paulo, but not dirt cheap by any means.
Took some really incredible pictures and can't wait to share them with the class! The beach here is quite amazing, and the waves are unbelievably powerful. Stay close to the shoreline … that's all I have to say!


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Tufts Poetry Award Finalists Announced [1]
Claremont Graduate University has announced the finalists for the 2013 Kingsley Tufts Poetry Award [3]. Given annually for a book published in the previous award year by a poet in midcareer, the Tufts Award is one of the most prestigious prizes given to an American poet. The winner receives $100,000.
The finalists are Marianne Boruch for The Book of Hours [4] (Copper Canyon Press), Edward Haworth Hoeppner Blood Prism [5] (Ohio State University Press), and Paisley Rekdal for Animal Eye [6] (University of Pittsburgh Press).
Boruch is the author of eight previous collections, including most recently Grace, Fallen from (Wesleyan, 2008), and a memoir, The Glimpse Traveler (Break Away Books, 2011). She is a professor of creative writing and poetry at Purdue University. Hoeppner is the author of two previous collections, including Rain Through High Windows (New Issues, 2000). He directs the creative writing program at Oakland University in Rochester, Michigan. Rekdal is the author of three previous collections, including most recently The Invention of the Kaleidoscope (University of Pittsburgh Press, 2007). She is an associate professor of English at the University of Utah.
Claremont also announced the finalists for the 2013 Kate Tufts Discovery Award [7], a prize of $10,000 given annually for a debut poetry collection. The finalists are Rebecca Morgan Frank for Little Murders Everywhere [8] (Salmon Poetry), Francine J. Harris for Allegiance [9] (Wayne State University Press), and Heidy Steidlmayer for Fowling Piece [10] (Triquarterly Books).
This year's panel of judges for both awards includes Linda Gregerson, David Barber, Kate Gale, Ted Genoways, and Carl Phillips. Winners will be announced in March and recognized during a ceremony at Claremont Graduate University in April.
Timothy Donnelly of Brooklyn, New York, received the 2012 Kingsley Tufts Poetry Award for The Cloud Corporation [11] (Wave Books). Katherine Larson received the Kate Tufts Discovery Award for Radial Symmetry (Yale University Press).
Authors, editors, and publishers may submit books for consideration for both the Kate and Kingsley Tufts Awards. For the 2014 awards, books published between September 1, 2012, and August 31, 2013, are eligible, and must be postmarked by September 15. Visit the website for more information and complete submission guidelines [12].


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People act like we had some high octane offense when he was here. We had a ****ty offense then and a ****ty offense now.
me too.
Hey, Braylon is no lock to make the Seattle team.
On the Jets, he'd clearly be able to crack the top 5. So - it could happen . . .
I love Braylon more than anybody, almost in a way that could force one to question my sexuality. But our offense really isn't missing too much without him. We struggled. He wasn't ever a huge playmaker, he was just solid.
That said, I sign him 10 times out of 10 over Chaz Schillens.
Braylon was a knucklehead. He'd make a brilliant TD catch and then gt penalized for doing the Dougie in the end zone. He had legal problems that only served to be a major distraction. He was an average WR at best, and yet he's lionized here as if we let a future HoF'er walk. Let it to, already.
Knucklehead? Most NFL players are....He got penalized vs the ****ing Pats man. I would've been doing the dougie vs those mother****ers as well! I'll let it slide bc of the competition.
The truth is BE had the true #1 WR Traits that are so hard to come by in the NFL and the guy knew how to block. PLUS he wanted to be a jet unlike another WR who was only looking for the dough. He played tough every ****ing game.
Not saying Jets should have given him a huge pay day or anything but bring back the guy who had great chemistry with the young QB for at least a look.
No catches for Braylon last night. Not sure if he was held out. Same goes for T.O. Maybe he doesn't make the cut even though the Jets would probably pass for a third time.I'd take him back in a heartbeat especially at the vet min r u fing kidding me.
Maybe the "Head Coach" doesn't believe the "Head Coach" can succeed without ALL the talent being on DEFENSE?????
So in year FOUR for Sachez the JETS draft a Wr in the second round and this is good enough for you?
Steven Hill comes from a an offense in college that didnt throw the ball. Not exactly a guarantee that this Wr is legit
BTW, How many plays did the JETS run with both Steven Hill and Sanchez on the field?
Can someone find this stat because I cant remember one............
You are smarter than that. It goes way deeper than that, talent just doesn't come waltzing in, some orgs are much better than others at drafting it, buying it,or trading for talent. Some teams have a different agenda. Steelers, Giants, recently Eagles, and Patriots have a machine going. Vast majority of teams, are, just in the league. What happened to the Cowboys, and Niners 5 SB's each, Niners just resurfaced after how many years? Because it's no that easy especially nowadays, the Jets basically just got into this aside from Parcells, 10/3 years ago the Giants have been doing it since 1925 with the same family. Some teams are similar in that fashion some are one hit wonders which is just as good if you are the last team standing. While I don't agree with some of the moves I don't know all the particulars, do you? Maybe Schotty was aloud to hang around because Woody was friends with Marty, or maybe Simms is in camp as a favor to Phil? Idk. Rex is 32-22, and like the vast majority does not have the only win that matters, but I think I'm gonna stick with this org a few more years to see what they can put together and add to this young and growing team, instead of micro manage the team.


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Learn how MacUpdate Desktop can install apps on MacUpdate with the simple click of the icon. Plus, keep all your apps updated.
You can fax any document through your Hylafax server by just printing on the virtual printer or through dragging-and-dropping a pdf document on it.
The integration with the Mac OS X Adress Book will permit you to directly access the fax number stored in it or input a new fax number on the fly.
You will be able to setup email notifications to have your Hylafax notify you when the fax documents are done, and even pre-approve a prefix to access the telephone line if your fax requires it.
This application is completely free.
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- Sort Adress Book contacts.
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I have a table that contains information regarding documents being uploaded. Periodically, new documents will be uploaded to "replace" the previous document. So I have a document name and an owner that will have multiple rows, but with different other attribute fields.
I would like to create a view in SQL 2005 that can dynamically determine which document is the most current (determined by the most recently added record ie MAX(ID)).
Basically, in a view I would like to have a field like....
IF MAX(ID) for this combination of Document Name & Owner, then true else false
and name this field something like IsCurrent.
I'm not sure if this is possible or what the syntax would look like.
This should be possible, at a minimum within your code,
I would grab the list of all docs by the owner..
SELECT doc FROM table
WHERE user = user
ORDER BY id DESC
then grab the first one in the list within your code
Hope this helps,
Larry Darrah
MS Architect Evangelist
For the creation of your view, couldn't you use this select?
select max(id), owner, document from doctable group by owner, document;
Then I think you would have the id of the most current document and use that to get the document...


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New job title: Attorney
Company: Hunter-Maclean
Duties: Lawson is an associate with the firm's Specialty Litigation Group.
Related work experience: Before joining the firm, Lawson served as an intern for U.S. Magistrate Judge Paige Gossett in Columbia, S.C. She also worked as a clerk and courier for a law firm in Myrtle Beach, S.C.
Education: Lawson earned a J.D. from the University of Georgia School of Law and also earned a B.A. in political science from the University of South Carolina Honors College.
New job title: Attorney
Company: Kilpatrick Townsend & Stockton
Duties: Nielsen will practice within the Corporate Finance and Real Estate Department as a member of the Employee Benefits Team.
Related work experience: Nielsen joins the firm from HunterMaclean. She has also worked at King & Spalding and was a member of Kilpatrick Townsend's Employee Benefits team from 1982-1998.
Education: She earned her J.D., with distinction, from Emory University School of Law and her B.A. from Albion College.
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Company: Sam Sharpe, State Farm
Duties: Stacy will handle homeowners and auto insurance along with car loans through State Farm Bank.
Education: Stacy attended St. Vincent's Academy and is a recent graduate of Armstrong Atlantic University.
New job title: Associate vice president, Marketing & Communi-cations
Company: Georgia Southern University
Duties: Flathman manages the university's marketing, brand and identity, communications, advertising, websites and public relations.
Related work experience: Flathman worked at GE's Global Headquarters and Aviation business units, as well as Michelin. He began his communication's career at Gulfstream in Savannah.
Education: Flathman is a graduate of Auburn University
Coldwell Bankers honor associates
Coldwell Banker Platinum has announced its Circle of Excellence Winners. The Circle of Excellence is a Coldwell Banker Platinum Partners internal awards program established to recognize well-rounded agents.
The winners are Jane Beare, Michael Cherry, Steffany Farmer and Jeff Shaufelberger.
Attorney honored
Frederick S. Bergen of Bergen & Bergen, P.C. has become a Fellow of the American College of Trial Lawyers. Bergen was inducted during the 2012 Annual Meeting of the College in New York City.
Pharmacy director honored
Kenneth Jozefczyk, a 1984 graduate of The Ohio State University, has been named the 2012 Clifton J. Latiolais Award recipient. Established in 1985, it is awarded by The Ohio State University College of Pharmacy and the Ohio State Wexner Medical Center Department of Pharmacy.
Jozefczyk is the director of pharmacy at Memorial University Medical Center.
Financial representative recognized
Northwestern Mutual is honoring Richard Geriner Jr., a Savannah-based financial representative, with membership in its 2012 Forum group, which recognizes an outstanding year of helping people achieve financial security. Only the top 5 percent of Northwestern Mutual's more than 6,000 financial representatives receive this annual honor.


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2012 Offers 'Better Economy', Says Business Leaders
The outlook for the U.S. economy improved in the fourth quarter, but broad pessimism about the progress of a recovery persists, according to the fourth quarter AICPA Economic Outlook Survey, which polls chief financial officers, controllers and certified public accountants in executive and senior management accounting roles.
The CPA Outlook Index – a composite of nine, equally weighted survey measures set on a scale from 0 to 100, with 50 signifying a neutral outlook – rose 6 points, to 64, this quarter, offsetting much of an 8-point decline in the third quarter. A good deal of the rise in the index can be attributed to growing optimism about the U.S. economy.
"We saw improvements in every category of the index, including sentiment about prospects for the U.S. economy," said Carol Scott, AICPA vice president for business, industry and government. "However, serious concerns about the business climate remain, reflected by continued reticence for new investment and hiring."
The percentage of respondents who expressed optimism about the U.S. economy rose from 9 percent to 19 percent since the last quarter. However, with 40 percent of survey takers still describing themselves as pessimistic or very pessimistic about domestic conditions, the outlook for the U.S. economy was the sole negative measure on the index.
Uncertainty surrounding the U.S. economy was cited as the top challenge for business and industry going forward, followed by regulatory burdens and employee and benefit costs.
On the positive side, 59 percent of CPA executives said they expect their businesses to expand at least a bit in the next 12 months. And plans for spending on information technology, other capital expenditures and training are at their highest level since the third quarter of 2007.
IT spending is projected to lead the pack with a 2.7 percent increase, and marketing expenses are also expected to pick up as businesses seek expansion opportunities.
"Executives are feeling better about their own company's prospects than they are about the U.S. economy as a whole," said Jim Morrison, chief financial officer of Teknor Apex Co. "But caution is still the word of the day for most businesses."
Based on the survey, less than half (45 percent) of survey takers believe the economy is headed for a double-dip recession, down from 61 percent last quarter. Fifty percent said their organizations do not plan to return to pre-recession employment levels for at least 12 months, and a third do not expect to reach that level again in the foreseeable future. Yet one in four respondents reported their companies have too few employees, but remain reluctant to hire because of economic uncertainty.
On a regional basis, survey takers have a more optimistic view of their company's prospects than they did last quarter, with one exception—the Northeast. The Midwest has the sunniest outlook.
Among industries, real estate and construction remain pockets of pessimism. Technology, manufacturing, retail trade and finance and insurance are sectors with the most optimistic outlooks.
Asked which part of the President's Job Council recommendations on job creation would benefit them most, 37 percent said "none," the most common response to the question. The No. 2 answer was regulatory streamlining (22 percent).
The fourth quarter AICPA Business and Industry Outlook Survey was conducted Nov. 9-28 and included 916 qualified responses from CPAs who hold leadership positions, such as chief financial officers or controllers in their companies. The overall margin of error is less than plus-or-minus 3 percentage points.


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Pope John Paul II forward, Jamel Stinson, was instrumental in Pope John Paul II's opening round victory in the PIAA Class AAA playoffs on Friday night.
The senior notched a double-double, scoring 25 points and grabbing 10 rebounds in the win over Bethlehem Catholic.
In the District 1 AAA final, Stinson put up ten points.
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Some of the decline was likely caused by Sandy. An earlier read on October spending showed retail sales fell for the first time in four months, according to Nov. 14 figures from the Commerce Department. While the government said it was able to collect information from storm-affected areas, it said it couldn't quantify Sandy's impact.
The storm closed as many as 230 stores owned by Brown Shoe Co., according to Diane Sullivan, the St. Louis-based company's president and chief executive officer. While all but four locations re-opened within nine days, the operator of the Famous Footwear chain expects fourth-quarter sales were cut by about $2.5 million, Sullivan said during a Nov. 20 earnings call.
Sandy affected 106 Urban Outfitters Inc. stores and curtailed online shopping, reducing fiscal third-quarter revenue by about 1 percentage point, according to Chief Financial Officer Frank Conforti. The impact will be smaller in the fourth quarter, he said on a Nov. 19 call with analysts.
Car and light truck demand also cooled, falling to a 14.2 million pace last month, after Sandy hit during the auto industry's busiest time of the month. Carmakers have said those sales should be made up by the end of the year.
November Sales
The effect carried over into this month, as well. Retailers posted November same-store sales that trailed analysts' estimates as Sandy depressed traffic early in the month, overwhelming gains from the start of holiday shopping.
Sales at Macy's Inc., the second-biggest U.S. department- store company, fell 0.7 percent, compared with the average projection for a 2.5 percent gain from analysts surveyed by researcher Retail Metrics Inc. Target Corp., the second-largest U.S. discount chain, posted a 1 percent decline in same-store sales, missing the estimate for a 2.1 percent increase.
For all of the third quarter, household purchases climbed at a 1.4 percent annual rate, the smallest gain in more than a year and down from a previously reported 2 percent advance, Commerce Department data showed yesterday. Spending increased at a 1.5 percent pace in the second quarter.
Fed's Dudley
"Although the economy continues to expand, we must grow faster if we are to put all of our jobless workers and idle businesses back to work," William Dudley, president of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, said yesterday.
Even so, continued payroll gains, climbing home values and better household finances are lifting Americans' spirits. The Conference Board's sentiment index rose to 73.7 in November, the highest level since February 2008, a report showed this week.
Households felt good enough to head to shopping centers on Black Friday weekend. U.S. retail sales rose 13 percent to $59.1 billion in the four days starting Nov. 22 after a 16 percent increase in the similar period last year, according to the National Retail Federation.
Today's Commerce Department report also showed a measure of prices tied to consumer spending advanced 1.7 percent in October from the same month last year, less than the Fed's long-run goal of 2 percent. Excluding food and energy costs, the price gauge increased rose 1.6 percent from a year earlier.
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Span's hit streak at 29, one from Nats' mark
By Tom Schad and Bill Ladson / 9/19/2013 1:08 A.M. ET
WASHINGTON -- Outfielder Denard Span extended his hitting streak to 29 consecutive games during the Nationals' 5-2 loss to the Braves on Wednesday night.
Span's streak is a game short of the Nats' record set by Ryan Zimmerman in 2009. It's also the longest hitting streak in the Majors this season. In the seventh inning, during his last at-bat of the game, Span singled to right field off reliever Luis Ayala. However, Span was erased on a fielder's choice by Zimmerman.
"I was definitely pumped to extend it. The first three at-bats were against a tough pitcher -- [Alex] Wood. He is tough to pick up from a lefty," Span said. "Once Ayala came in there, I was able to see the ball a little bit better. I just buckled down. I wanted to get it and I did."
During the streak, Span is hitting .374 with five doubles, two triples, two home runs and nine RBIs.
On Thursday against the Marlins, Span has a chance to become the first player since Dan Uggla and Andre Ethier in 2011 to reach a 30-game hitting streak.
Strasburg's start postponed until Saturday
WASHINGTON -- After Wednesday night's 5-2 loss to the Braves, Nationals manager Davey Johnson announced that Stephen Strasburg would have his scheduled start Thursday against the Marlins pushed back. Gio Gonzalez will start Thursday and Strasburg will return on Saturday, barring any further setbacks.
Strasburg was unexpectedly scratched from his previous start last Friday with right forearm tightness, which might have occurred when the right-hander was experimenting with a new pitch the previous day in New York. The right-hander rested for two days, threw a "great" bullpen session on Monday and said Tuesday that he was prepared to start Thursday's series opener as planned.
However, Strasburg had trouble getting loose Wednesday afternoon and still felt some tightness.
"He felt a little something there [in the forearm], but he wanted to pitch," Johnson said. "I said, 'Well, no way. I got guys on full rest. I'll pitch them and you can be in the lineup for Saturday.' So it's my decision."
Strasburg described the feeling as a "strong cramp" that bothered him when he was warming up Wednesday afternoon. He felt the tightness and took a break, moving his hand and squeezing it a bit. Then the feeling dissipated and he returned to the field and felt fine.
"I don't really know why it's happening," Strasburg said. "When it happens, it happens. It's like a strong cramp, so I just think I would put us in a bind if I went out there and felt it. We'd definitely be down some pitchers."
Johnson said last week that Strasburg's injury is not related to the surgically-repaired ligament in the right-hander's elbow. Strasburg was examined by team doctor Wiemi Douoguih, who assured him that the arm is structurally sound.
"I wouldn't say I'm too concerned, because when I get nice and loose, it feels 100 percent. The tough thing is getting loose," Strasburg said. "I think it's just part of it being September and that's pretty much it."
Johnson said that Strasburg wanted to pitch Thursday, but the manager ultimately decided to hold him back as a precaution.
"It's just not worth the risks," Johnson said. "He wanted to go tomorrow. I said no."
Davey hints Detwiler likely done for regular season
WASHINGTON -- After throwing three simulated innings on Wednesday, Nationals left-hander Ross Detwiler will fly to Viera, Fla., and pitch in an instructional league game Monday, according to Davey Johnson. The manager hinted that the lefty might not rejoin the Nats this season.
"If that's the plan, he might as well stay down there," Johnson said. "I don't see it. He'd need to have four days off and then there's only one game or two games left. I don't see the point in coming out and having him for one game, probably. But that's going to be a decision made down the road."
Detwiler has been on the 60-day disabled list since early July with a herniated disc in his back, and he has struggled with back issues all season. The left-hander is making progress, however, throwing fastballs, changeups and curveballs during Wednesday's bullpen session. Johnson said that there just might not be enough games left on the regular-season schedule.
The Nationals' skipper also suggested that Detwiler's back has been bothering him since the World Baseball Classic. Although he is in his last season as manager of the team, Johnson still wants to make sure that Detwiler doesn't rush back and that he completely overcomes the injury before next season.
"The injury is such that there's no easy medical cure," Johnson said, "so you're just concerned because there is a little problem in there, if that's going to get exacerbated and come back. That's the whole issue."
Nats' offensive surge coincides with Schu's arrival
WASHINGTON -- Since the Nationals dismissed hitting coach Rick Eckstein and replaced him with roving hitting instructor Rick Schu, their offense has drastically improved. Whether the two changes are related, however, is unclear.
Schu joined the Nationals three games after the All-Star break. Prior to Wednesday's game, the Nats had increased their runs per game (to 4.70 from 3.76), batting average (to .274 from .241), home runs per game (to 1.23 from 0.91) and walks per game (to 3.07 from 2.79) in the second half of the season. However, they have also had a healthier lineup.
"I've said Rick Schu's a good hitting coach. Rick Eckstein's an outstanding hitting coach," manager Davey Johnson said. "They have basically the same philosophy: hit off the fastball. And the talent that we had here is the same talent, and they're getting the same message. They just didn't do it. ... It's always water seeks its level, and we were way down. We needed to come up."
Several players have praised Schu's influence, either in their own performance or the team's performance as a whole. Schu introduced a concept called "fluidity" to Denard Span, who entered Wednesday's game with a career-best 28-game hitting streak.
Chad Tracy credited Schu with much of the team's turnaround.
"I think when he came in, he just changed the whole atmosphere around here," Tracy said. "He brought in this personality that makes everybody relax. He's always laughing, smiling, joking around, putting on your genre of music when you come down there to hit, getting you in your flow. That kind of stuff goes a long way."
Tracy said that Schu has also brought a situational approach to the batting cage.
"The first couple of rounds, it's hit and run, infield back, infield in, get him over," Tracy said. "You have to do some things that you have to do in the game sometimes, and I think that helps some, too."
Worth noting
Several Nationals players again wore Navy hats during batting practice Wednesday. Adm. James A Winnefeld, Jr., vice chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, distributed the hats Tuesday morning in light of Monday's shooting at the nearby Naval Sea Systems Command headquarters.
"Everybody cherished the hats," Johnson said. "I just think it was a show of solidarity that we wear them through the anthem, in respect toward the military, tragedy and the service. All the above. As far as wearing them out there [in a game], a lot of them didn't fit, so I don't know how comfortable guys would be with hats that don't fit and fly off, although our hats seem to fly off a lot anyway."


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West Ashley girls soccer coach Drew McNeely acknowledged that his squad's performance Monday night in the first round of the Class AAAA playoffs was not as polished as he would have liked.
But the 2-1 victory over visiting Fort Dorchester was enough to bring the Wildcats one step closer to their goal of a return trip to the Lower State championship game.
In order to meet that objective, West Ashley (13-6) must navigate a difficult path that continues Wednesday night at top-seeded Lexington, which beat Ridge View, 12-0, in other opening-round action.
"Of course, you're always happy with advancing," McNeely said. "But in terms of the way we played … we had our chances, certainly, we just didn't finish the ones we needed to. We're only going to get a few chances, and you've got to put those away."
Most of the Wildcats' opportunities resulted from superior flank play.
Mary Shirley was especially active on the left side, and it took less than nine minutes for her efforts to pay off. The sophomore raced down the sideline, cut inside and fired a shot that Patriots freshman goalkeeper Kaelen Harper could not handle.
Caitlyn Reilly equalized seven minutes later on a 20-yard free kick, but Shirley reclaimed the lead for West Ashley five minutes before halftime with her second goal of the contest, lacing a rebound into the roof of the net.
"We didn't come out as strong as we would have liked," said first-year Fort Dorchester coach Taryn Floyd, who attributed the slow start to the players' lack of confidence in themselves. "They get down on themselves real hard. I think that's because they have been told for so long that the Fort Dorchester soccer program does not compare to other programs."
With the help of Floyd, a Lowcountry native who was named the Lower State player of the year in 2003 as a senior at Summerville High, the Patriots made strides this season to overcome that perception. After losing three straight Region 8-AAAA games and five of six overall to open the campaign, Fort Dorchester rebounded to finish as the third seed and earn its first postseason berth since 2010. The Patriots finished the season with a 7-10 record.
West Ashley, the second seed from Region 7-AAAA, used its speed to create chances in the second half, but the lack of a finishing touch kept Fort Dorchester within striking distance. The Patriots' push for an equalizer late in the game resulted in a few tense moments for the Wildcat faithful, but ultimately McNeely's defensive corps was up to the challenge.
"I think we pushed the panic button late in the game," McNeely said. "(Fort Dorchester) played with a lot of intensity and it was a good first-round match. They're a much-improved program. (Floyd) has done a very good job with that team."
Both squads were forced to overcome unfortunate injury situations. The Patriots lost five players to injuries throughout the course of the season, including their first- and second-string goalkeepers. As a result, Harper was thrust into the starting netminder role after spending the first half of the season on junior varsity.
Meanwhile, the Wildcats were without a pair of co-captains — junior Caroline Cashion, who is out with a torn ACL, and senior Hannah Miller, who suffered an injury on May 1 against Wando.
West Ashley beat Fort Dorchester, 3-1, on April 25 in the teams' only regular season contest.
Goals: WA—Shirley 2. FD—Reilly 1. Records: West Ashley 13-6. Fort Dorchester 7-10. Next: West Ashley at Lexington Wednesday in the second round of the Class AAAA playoffs.


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Tallahassee, Florida - November 18, 2012
After two cars collide one ends up on fire Saturday at 2:45am in Suwannee County.
The Florida Highway Patrol says Leanna Stebbins, 21, was driving east on US-27 behind Brett Suggs.
FHP says Suggs' car was traveling east on US-27 slowing down to make a right turn onto 65th Road.
The release says Stebbins continued approaching Suggs' car and struck the rear.
According to FHP, Suggs then came to rest on its left side facing north.
Stebbins' car rotated clockwise, traveled off the road onto the southernmost grassy shoulder and entered an adjacent tree line where it struck a small group of trees with its front.
Stebbins' 2011 Chevy Cruz then caught on fire after coming to final rest facing southeast in the tree line.
FHP says Leanna Stebbins had minor injuries. The release says alcohol was not in her system and she was wearing a seatbelt.
The driver of the other car, Brett Suggs, was taken to Lake City Medical Center with minor injuries. Alcohol was not in his system.
According to FHP, Suggs had two passengers in his car. The first passenger, Brian Barnes, 22, was taken to Lake City Medical Center with minor injuries.
The other passenger, Elizabeth Marie-Avery, 24, had minor injuries.
All three were wearing seatbelts.


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THE CITY of Greater Bendigo has unveiled three playground designs for Hargreaves Mall.
The playgrounds feature climbing areas, slides and a jumping area, with children to vote on their favourite design over the next two weeks.
Council CEO Craig Niemann said one play space will be installed early next year, with hopes it will bring more people into the mall.
He said traders were keen to see the playground installed and the whole CBD improved.
"We want to make the place flow and feel good," Mr Niemann said.
"Everyone has a view and we won't get consensus from everyone, but we've heard from traders that they want something that will attract young families."


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SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) — Zynga Inc. and Electronic Arts Inc. have dropped a legal battle that erupted between the game developers last year over copyright claims and employee poaching.
According to a filing with the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California, all claims and counterclaims asserted in the case have been dismissed.
A Zynga ZNGA, -2.15% spokeswoman said in a statement that the companies have reached a settlement, but declined to comment further. An EA spokesman also declined to comment on specific terms.
EA EA, +0.69% , of Redwood City, Calif., had filed suit in August alleging that social-game maker Zynga's "The Ville" infringed copyrights that protect EA's game "The Sims Social."
San Francisco-based Zynga denied those allegations and countered that EA was angered by the flood of interest among EA employees in leaving to work for Zynga.
Zynga alleged that EA Chief Executive John Riccitiello sought a so-called no-hire agreement between the firms that could bar Zynga from poaching employees.
Zynga experienced a period of rapid growth as the company went public in late 2011 and enjoyed the popular success of games such as "FarmVille."
EA, which has a far longer history in traditional game publishing, developed its own version of the online social games Zynga specializes in with titles like "The Sims Social."
Zynga has recently hit a rough patch as it has failed to stir the same sort of interest in newer games that its earlier titles enjoyed.
In October Zynga warned that "The Ville" had failed to gain much traction, and said it has cut its investment in the title.


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After parsing through the numbers, here are a few discussion topics that stood out to us.
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