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House Bill 2152 History
HB2152 intr
(By Delegates Manypenny, Barill and Fleischauer)
[Introduced February 13, 2013; referred to the
Committee on the Judiciary then Finance.]
A BILL to amend and reenact §22-6A-7 and §22-6A-8 of the Code of West Virginia, 1931, as amended, all relating to requiring flowback plans for all work on oil and gas wells; requiring a flowback tank with a closed loop system that prevents the release of volatile organic compounds and fugitive pollutants into the environment; permitting flowback pits to only be used under certain conditions; and requiring the proper disposal of drilling mud.
Be it enacted by the Legislature of West Virginia:
That §22-6A-7 and §22-6A-8 of the Code of West Virginia, 1931, as amended, be amended and reenacted, all to read as follows:
§22-6A-7. Horizontal well permit required; permit fee; application; soil erosion control plan; well site safety plan; site construction plan; water management plan;
flowback plan;
permit fee; installation of permit number; suspension of a permit.
(a) It is unlawful for
person to commence any well work, including site preparation work which involves any disturbance of land, for a horizontal well without first securing from the secretary a well work permit pursuant to this article.
(b) Every permit application filed under this section shall be on a form as may be prescribed by the secretary, shall be verified and shall contain the following information:
(1) The names and addresses of:
The well operator; (ii) the agent required to be designated under subsection (h) of this section; and (iii) every person whom the applicant shall notify under
section of this article, together with a certification and evidence that a copy of the application and all other required documentation has been delivered to all such persons;
(2) The names and addresses of every coal operator operating coal seams under the tract of land on which the well is or may be located and the coal seam owner of record and lessee of record required to be given notice by subdivision (6), subsection (a), section five of this article, if any, if said owner or lessee is not yet operating said coal seams;
(3) The number of the well
or such other identification as the secretary may require;
or other identification required by the secretary;
(4) The well work for which a permit is requested;
(5) The approximate total depth to which the well is to be drilled or deepened or the actual depth if the well has been drilled; the proposed angle and direction of the well; the actual depth or the approximate depth at which the well to be drilled deviates from vertical, the angle and direction of the nonvertical well bore until the well reaches its total target depth or its actual final depth and the length and direction of any actual or proposed horizontal lateral or well bore;
(6) Each formation in which the well will be completed if applicable;
(7) A description of any means used to stimulate the well;
(8) If the proposed well work will require casing or tubing to be set, the entire casing program for the well, including the size of each string of pipe, the starting point and depth to which each string is to be set and the extent to which each such string is to be cemented;
(9) If the proposed well work is to convert an existing well, all information required by this section, all formations from which production is anticipated and any plans to plug any portion of the well;
(10) If the proposed well work is to plug or replug the well, all information necessary to demonstrate compliance with the legislative rules promulgated by the secretary in accordance with section thirteen of this article;
(11) If the proposed well work is to stimulate a horizontal well, all information necessary to demonstrate compliance with the requirements of subdivision (7), subsection (a), section five of this article;
(12) The erosion and sediment control plan required under subsection (c) of this section for applications for permits to drill;
(13) A well site safety plan to address proper safety measures to be employed for the protection of persons on the site as well as the general public. The plan shall encompass all aspects of the operation, including the actual well work for which the permit was obtained, completion activities and production activities, and
shall provide
an emergency point of contact for the well operator. The well operator shall provide a copy of the well site safety plan to the local emergency planning committee established pursuant to section seven, article five-a, chapter fifteen of this code, for the emergency planning district in which the well work will occur at least seven days before commencement of well work or site preparation work that involves any disturbance of land;
(14) A certification from the operator that;
It has provided the owners of the surface described in subdivisions (1), (2) and (4), subsection (b), section ten of this article, the information required by subsections (b) and (c), section sixteen of this article; (ii) that the requirement was
satisfied as a result of giving the surface owner notice of entry to survey pursuant to subsection (a), section ten of this article; or (iii) the notice requirements of subsection (b), section sixteen of this article were waived in writing by the surface owner;
(15) The flowback plan required under subsection (m) of this section for applications for permits to drill; and
Other relevant information which the secretary may reasonably require.
(c) (1) An erosion and sediment control plan shall accompany each application for a well work permit under this article. The plan shall contain methods of stabilization and drainage, including a map of the project area indicating the amount of acreage disturbed. The erosion and sediment control plan shall meet the minimum requirements of the West Virginia Erosion and Sediment Control Manual as adopted and from time to time amended by the department. The erosion and sediment control plan shall become part of the terms and conditions of any well work permit that is issued pursuant to this article and the provisions of the plan shall be carried out where applicable in the operation. The erosion and sediment control plan shall set out the proposed method of reclamation which shall comply with the requirements of section fourteen of this article.
(2) For well sites that disturb three acres or more of surface, excluding pipelines, gathering lines and roads, the erosion and sediment control plan submitted in accordance with this section shall be certified by a registered professional engineer.
(d) For well sites that disturb three acres or more of surface, excluding pipelines, gathering lines and roads, the operator shall submit a site construction plan,
that shall be
certified by a registered professional engineer,
contains information
the secretary may require by rule.
(e) In addition to the other requirements of this section, if the drilling, fracturing or stimulating of the horizontal well requires the use of water obtained by withdrawals from waters of this state in amounts that exceed two hundred ten thousand gallons during any thirty day period, the application for a well work permit shall include a water management plan, which may be submitted on an individual well basis or on a watershed basis, and which shall include the following information:
(1) The type of water source, such as surface or groundwater, the county of each source to be used by the operation for water withdrawals and the latitude and longitude of each anticipated withdrawal location;
(2) The anticipated volume of each water withdrawal;
(3) The anticipated months when water withdrawals will be made;
(4) The planned management and disposition of wastewater after completion from fracturing, refracturing, stimulation and production activities;
(5) A listing of the anticipated additives that may be used in water utilized for fracturing or stimulating the well. Upon well completion, a listing of the additives that were actually used in the fracturing or stimulating of the well shall be submitted as part of the completion log or report required by subdivision (14), subsection (a), section five of this article;
(6) For all surface water withdrawals, a water management plan that includes the information requested in subdivisions (1) through (5) of this subsection and the following:
(A) Identification of the current designated and existing water uses, including any public water intakes within one mile downstream of the withdrawal location;
(B) For surface waters, a demonstration, using methods acceptable to the secretary, that sufficient in-stream flow will be available immediately downstream of the point of withdrawal. A sufficient in-stream flow is maintained when a pass-by flow that is protective of the identified use of the stream is preserved immediately downstream of the point of withdrawal; and
(C) Methods to be used for surface water withdrawal to minimize adverse impact to aquatic life;
(7) This subsection is intended to be consistent with and does not supersede, revise, repeal or otherwise modify articles eleven, twelve or twenty-six of this chapter and does not revise, repeal or otherwise modify the common law doctrine of riparian rights in West Virginia law.
(f) An application may propose and a permit may approve two or more activities defined as well work, however, a separate permit shall be obtained for each horizontal well drilled.
(g) The application for a permit under this section shall be accompanied by the applicable bond as required by section fifteen of this article, the applicable plat required by subdivision (6), subsection (a), section five of this article and a permit fee of $10,000 for the initial horizontal well drilled at a location and a permit fee of $5,000 for each additional horizontal well drilled on a single well pad at the same location.
(h) The well operator named in the application shall designate the name and address of an agent for the operator who is the attorney-in-fact for the operator and who is a resident of the State of West Virginia upon whom notices, orders or other communications issued pursuant to this article or article eleven of this chapter may be served and upon whom process may be served. Every well operator required to designate an agent under this section shall, within five days after the termination of the designation, notify the secretary of the termination and designate a new agent.
The well owner or operator shall install the permit number as issued by the secretary and a contact telephone number for the operator in a legible and permanent manner to the well upon completion of any permitted work. The dimensions, specifications, and manner of installation shall be in accordance with the rules of the secretary.
(j) The secretary may waive the requirements of this section and sections eight, ten, eleven and twenty-four of this article in
emergency situation if the secretary deems the action necessary. In such case, the secretary may issue an emergency permit which is effective for not more than thirty days unless reissued by the secretary.
(k) The secretary shall deny the issuance of a permit if the secretary determines that the applicant has committed a substantial violation of a previously issued permit for a horizontal well, including the applicable erosion and sediment control plan associated with the previously issued permit, or a substantial violation of one or more of the rules promulgated under this article and, in each instance,
failed to abate or seek review of the violation within the time prescribed by the secretary pursuant to the provisions of subdivisions (1) and (2), subsection (a), section five of this article and the rules promulgated hereunder, which time may not be unreasonable.
In the event
the secretary finds that a substantial violation has occurred and that the operator has failed to abate or seek review of the violation in the time prescribed, the secretary may suspend the permit on which said violation exists, after which suspension the operator shall forthwith cease all well work being conducted under the permit. However,
the secretary may reinstate the permit without further notice at which time the well work may be continued. The secretary shall make written findings of any such suspension and may enforce the same in the circuit courts of this state. The operator may appeal a suspension pursuant to the provisions of subdivision (23), subsection (a), section five of this article. The secretary shall make a written finding of any such determination.
(m) A flowback plan for produced water, using best available technology, shall accompany each application for a well work permit under this article. This plan shall minimally include:
_____(1) A flowback tank with closed loop systems that prevents the release of volatile organic compounds and fugitive pollutants into the environment, helping to eliminate exposure of public to potential health hazards which could otherwise be caused by the igniting of volatile organic compounds from sparks from equipment;
_____(2) An identified, written plan to process and dispose of materials pursuant to the public health and environmental provisions of this code; and
_____(3) That drilling mud be given a reasonable time to determine if it will become radioactive or toxic and then properly disposed of in accordance with its status and the requirements of this code or federal law; and
(4) Any other relevant information which the director may require by rule.
§22-6A-8. Review of application; issuance of permit; performance standards; copy of permits to county assessor.
(a) The secretary shall review each application for a well work permit and shall determine whether or not a permit is issued.
(b) No permit may be issued less than thirty days after the filing date of the application for any well work except plugging or replugging and no permit for plugging or replugging may be issued less than five days after the filing date of the application except a permit for plugging or replugging a dry hole.
If the applicant certifies that all persons entitled to notice of the application under the provisions of subsection (b), section ten of this article have been served in person or by certified mail, return receipt requested, with a copy of the well work application, including the erosion and sediment control plan, if required, and the well plat, and further files written statements of no objection by all such persons, the secretary may issue the well work permit at any time.
(c) Prior to the issuance of
permit, the secretary shall ascertain from the Executive Director of Workforce West Virginia and the Insurance Commissioner whether the applicant is in default pursuant to the provisions of section six-c, article two, chapter twenty-one-a of this code, and in compliance with section five, article two, chapter twenty-three of this code, with regard to
required subscription to the Unemployment Compensation Fund or mandatory Workers' Compensation Insurance, the payment of premiums and other charges to the fund, the timely filing of payroll reports and the maintenance of adequate deposits. If the applicant is delinquent or defaulted, or has been terminated by the executive director or the Insurance Commissioner, the permit may not be issued until the applicant returns to compliance or is restored by the executive director or the Insurance Commissioner under a reinstatement agreement.
In all inquiries the Executive Director of Workforce West Virginia and the Insurance Commissioner shall make response to the Department of Environmental Protection within fifteen calendar days.
Failure to respond timely is considered to indicate the applicant is in compliance and the failure will not be used to preclude issuance of the permit.
(d) The secretary may cause
inspections to be made of the proposed well work location as necessary to assure adequate review of the application. The permit may not be issued, or may be conditioned including conditions with respect to the location of the well and access roads prior to issuance if the director determines:
(1) The proposed well work will constitute a hazard to the safety of persons;
(2) The plan for soil erosion and sediment control is not adequate or effective;
(3) Damage would occur to publicly owned lands or resources; or
(4) The proposed well work fails to protect fresh water sources or supplies.
(e) In addition to the considerations set forth in subsection (d) of this section, in determining whether a permit should be issued, issued with conditions or denied, the secretary shall determine that:
(1) The well location restrictions of section twelve of this article have been satisfied, unless the requirements have been waived by written consent of the surface owner or the secretary has granted a variance to the restrictions, each in accordance with section twelve of this article;
(2) The water management plan submitted to the secretary, if required by
(e), section seven of this article, has been received and approved;
_____(3) The flowback plan submitted to the secretary under subsection (m), section seven of this article, has been received, determined adequate and effective and approved.
(f) The secretary shall promptly review all written comments filed by persons entitled to notice pursuant to subsection (b), section ten of this article. If after review of the application and all written comments received from persons entitled to notice pursuant to subsection (b), section ten of this article, the application for a well work permit is approved, and no timely objection has been filed with the secretary by the coal operator operating coal seams beneath the tract of land, or the coal seam owner or lessee, if any, if said owner or lessee is not yet operating said coal seams, or made by the secretary under the provisions of section ten and eleven of this article, the permit shall be issued, with conditions, if any. This section does not supersede the provisions of section seven or subdivisions (6) through (9), subsection (a), section five of this article.
(g) Each permit issued by the secretary pursuant to this article shall require the operator at a minimum to:
(1) Plug all wells in accordance with the requirements of this article and the rules promulgated pursuant thereto when the wells become abandoned;
(2) With respect to disposal of cuttings at the well site, all drill cuttings and associated drilling mud generated from horizontal well sites shall be disposed of in an approved solid waste facility or,
if the surface owner consents, the drill cuttings and associated drilling mud may be managed on-site in a manner approved by the secretary;
(3) Grade, terrace and plant, seed or sod the area disturbed that is not required in production of the horizontal well where necessary to bind the soil and prevent substantial erosion and sedimentation;
(4) Take action in accordance with industry standards to minimize fire hazards and other conditions which constitute a hazard to health and safety of the public;
(5) Protect the quantity and the quality of water in surface and groundwater systems both during and after drilling operations and during reclamation by:
(A) Withdrawing water from surface waters of the state by methods deemed appropriate by the secretary so as to maintain sufficient in-steam flow immediately downstream of the withdrawal location. In no case shall an operator withdraw water from ground or surface waters at volumes beyond which the waters can sustain; (B) Casing, sealing or otherwise managing wells to keep returned fluids from entering ground and surface waters;
(C) Conducting oil and gas operations so as to prevent, to the extent possible using the best management practices, additional contributions of suspended or dissolved solids to streamflow or runoff outside the permit area.
In no event shall the contributions be in excess of requirements set by applicable state or federal law; and
(D) Registering all water supply wells drilled and operated by the operator with the Office of Oil and Gas. All drinking water wells within one thousand five hundred feet of a water supply well shall be flow and quality tested by the operator upon request of the drinking well owner prior to operating the water supply well. The secretary shall propose legislative rules to identify appropriate methods for testing water flow and quality.
(6) In addition to the other requirements of this subsection, an operator proposing to drill any horizontal well requiring the withdrawal of more than two hundred ten thousand gallons in a thirty day period shall have the following requirements added to its permit:
(A) Identification of water withdrawal locations. Within forty-eight hours prior to the withdrawal of water, the operator shall identify to the department the location of withdrawal by latitude and longitude and verify that sufficient flow exists to protect designated uses of the stream. The operator shall use methods deemed appropriate by the secretary to determine if sufficient flow exists to protect designated uses of the stream.
(B) Signage for water withdrawal locations. All water withdrawal locations and facilities identified in the water management plan shall be identified with a sign that identifies that the location is a water withdrawal point, the name and telephone number of the operator and the permit numbers(s) for which the water withdrawn will be utilized;
(C) Record-keeping and reporting. For all water used for hydraulic fracturing of horizontal wells and for flowback water from hydraulic fracturing activities and produced water from production activities from horizontal wells, an operator shall comply with the following record keeping and reporting requirements:
For production activities, the following information shall be recorded and retained by the well operator:
(I) The quantity of flowback water from hydraulic fracturing the well;
(II) The quantity of produced water from the well; and
(III) The method of management or disposal of the flowback and produced water.
(ii) For transportation activities, the following information shall be recorded and maintained by the operator:
(I) The quantity of water transported;
(II) The collection and delivery or disposal locations of water; and
(III) The name of the water hauling company.
(iii) The information maintained pursuant to this subdivision shall be available for inspection by the department along with other required permits and records and maintained for three years after the water withdrawal activity.
(iv) This subdivision is intended to be consistent with and does not supersede, revise, repeal or otherwise modify articles eleven, twelve or twenty-six of this chapter and does not revise, repeal or otherwise modify the common law doctrine of riparian rights in West Virginia law.
(h) The secretary shall mail a copy of the permit as issued or a copy of the order denying a permit to any person entitled to submit written comments pursuant to subsection (a), section eleven of this article and who requested a copy.
Upon the issuance of
permit pursuant to the provisions of this article, the secretary shall transmit a copy of the permit to the office of the assessor for the county in which the well is located.
NOTE: The purpose of this bill is to require
flowback plans for all work on oil and gas wells. The bill requires a flowback tank with a closed loop system that prevents the release of volatile organic compounds and fugitive pollutants into the environment to be part of that plan. The bill permits flowback pits to be used only under certain conditions. The bill also requires the proper disposal of drilling mud.
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There will be a free Community Self-Help Workshop: "Low Cost-No Cost Health Care" on Saturday, February 23, 10 am – Noon at Salvation Army,
Sponsored by the Love Chapmantown Community Coalition and the Salvation Army, this workshop will offer ideas and resources for family health care and prevention that don't have to cost an arm and a leg. There is no charge for the workshop. All are welcome, including families. Pre-enrollment recommended but not required. To enroll or for more information e-mail <firstname.lastname@example.com> or call (530) 781-4676.

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It's a very interesting idea to DOS a car.
A much easier to execute Denial-of-Service would be to slash the tires, doncha think? Only takes about 45 seconds to get to all four of 'em, it isn't terribly noisy, and I've never been caught doing it.
I mean, it seems like that detection would be very unlikely.
The car was underground, hence the engine would not have been running. All the car's electrical systems were in use all morning, with no alternator to keep the battery charged.
Just leaving the ignition switch at ready keeps lots of electrical systems in the car running, such as solendoids within the engine, cabin lights and do
No, they said it was a Prius, not a Matrix [toyota.com].
Granted, the transmission may not be working -- but there should be a diagnostic saying "OMFG Battery Voltage Low" first. If you lost your arms in an industrial accident you don't start by telling the doctor that you have a hard time holding pens...
A manual car doesn't roll away when left in gear.
Sure a manual will roll while it is in gear. 5Th gear often does not have the ability to keep the car from moving. Particularly if your engine has 160,000 miles on it, and low compression on one cylinder, like mine does.
Most manual drivers leave their transmission in reverse when they leave the car. Reverse has the highest gear ratio of any gear, so it is the hardest for gravity to work against. (Remember that the driving is happening from the other end of the transmission, so all the gear ratios ar
Agreed. So when it happens, it should probably be displayed, even if that means hiding other, less important error-messages.
However, this also means it *shouldn't* be happening as a result of something common. A low battery-voltage is a pretty common error-scenario. To have something dangerous happen as a result thereof is simply bad design.
If they do keep this bad desig
Police have warned all families with nerdy children to be on the look out for unexplained cars turning up in their garage.
Sitting in an A320 at Stuttgart last summer, wondering why it isn't going anywhere. Eventually they tell us that one of the thrust reversers didn't deploy on landing, and they're trying to persuade the computer to open both of them at the same time.
After an hour and a half of this, the captain tells us that they're "just going to try rebooting the aeroplane". You should have seen some of the passengers' faces, especially when all the cabin lights went off and the air conditioning fell silent...
(In the
KITT had two very hot "doctors" dedicated to keeping him well and in shape. Remember Bonnie and April [imdb.com]?
Meh. My car doesn't respond to Bluetooth traffic either.No matter what we did the car did not react to the Bluetooth traffic at all.
Trying to infect Prius with a Symbian "virus" is like trying to infect a tree with a choc chip cookie . Hey I can come up with a better one - it's like trying to infect shampoo with a book on eating disorders (now go picture that in your head for a second).
A lot of these embedded machines run Java-based software now. If it can run Java it doesn't matter what OS is underneath it. Sure, the JVM and the OS may have differing levels of protection depending on the device, but as I said... Java is the key.
From what I understand (from my limited reading becuase I don't really give a flying fuck... nothing I own has Bluetooth for a very good reason) these cellphone virii rely on the Java compatibility to work.
From the site:
In February we published an official statement from Toyota that Lexus does not use Symbian OS, and thus cannot be infected by any of the Cabir variants.
However a mobile worm infecting a car is a thought that one cannot let go easily, and even as we knew that the car cannot be infected, this was something that just had to be tested for real.
So they already knew it isn't possible to infect the car. That much is clear. Now, Toyota could have lied about the OS it runs, and the car may have been vulnerable. You never know for sure until you try these things.
It was still an interesting experiment because they discovered a few flaws in the Toyota Bluetooth system - the corrupted phone name that froze the display and the flat battery wasn't properly handled by the system.
So, saying this was a stupid experiment is really stupid in itself.
A lot of these embedded machines run Java-based software now. If it can run Java it doesn't matter what OS is underneath it. Sure, the JVM and the OS may have differing levels of protection depending on the device, but as I said... Java is the key. From what I understand (from my limited reading becuase I don't really give a flying fuck... nothing I own has Bluetooth for a very good reason) these cellphone virii rely on the Java compatibility to work.
No, Symian viruses (like Cabir) does not rely on the
"We don't care. We don't have to. We're the Phone Company."


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Oakland's Uptown has room for a gay bar
Updated 1:39 am, Friday, April 25, 2014
Oakland's downtown entertainment venues just keep on sprouting: 20 bars and restaurants are expected to open this year between the city's waterfront and 27th Street, the northern edge of downtown.
The next wave of new businesses already under construction include an African restaurant and a takeout pizza spot. And domestic partners Richard Fuentes and Sean Sullivan are hoping the city can accommodate at least one more.
In less than two weeks, the Oakland Planning Commission is scheduled to vote on a permit to allow Sullivan and his investors to open the first full-service gay bar in the city's burgeoning Uptown District.
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If approved, the Port Bar will open for business in late summer in a vacant space next door to the Paramount Theatre on Broadway. The design in the 2,000-square-foot space will reflect the city's industrial history and include a shipping container modified into unisex bathrooms.
I say full-service because downtown Oakland is home to Club 21 and the Bench and Bar, but they are primarily dance clubs open four or five nights a week. Sullivan's proposed Port Bar is a seven-day-a-week venture catering to gay clientele.
It's not as if there weren't a history here. Oakland's White Horse Inn, located on Telegraph Avenue on the Berkeley-Oakland border, is considered one of the oldest gay bars in the nation.
Sullivan is optimistic that the city will approve his proposal - and if the Planning Commission follows its own history, the new bar could be a shoo-in.
Since the downtown renaissance began, "there has never been a bar in the city's Uptown District that has been denied a conditional use permit," Sullivan said.
But even more importantly, Sullivan believes that Oakland's growing gay community needs a gathering spot - a place "where everybody knows your name," to borrow a familiar phrase.
With San Francisco's exorbitant rents and its housing activists freaked out, Oakland will continue to receive new residents from across the bay, and new housing and commercial ventures are gearing up to receive them.
Oakland Mayor Jean Quan has said that as much as 20 to 25 percent of Oakland's population is lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender, but everyone knows that she likes to embellish the numbers now and then.
Those numbers are a stretch for Sullivan as well, but if even 10 percent of the city's residents identify as other than hetero, that's still close to 40,000 residents who might find the idea of a downtown gay bar enticing, and that's a pretty good-size market niche.
"With so many people moving into downtown and flatlands neighborhoods, there is a growing need for a space for the gay community," he said.
In preparation for their proposal to the city, Sullivan conducted age-specific focus groups with peoples in their 20s and 30s, the folks most likely to spend an evening bar-hopping in downtown Oakland, and discovered some things he didn't know.
There is something about Oakland, whether it's the constant tribulations in government, crime or the public portraits drawn as a result of shortcomings. There's an underdog mentality here that unifies residents rather than divides them.
"Whether they arrived last week or they've been here for 10 years or they grew up here, a lot of people feel Oaklandish; rooted here and a part of the community," Sullivan said. "They want something within the space that reflected Oakland."
One of the other things learned from the focus groups Sullivan conducted is that younger participants overwhelmingly rejected the idea of a gays-only bar.
"It can't be so gay that my straight friends are freaked out by it," Sullivan says one young man told him. "They want to be able to come to our place and not be overwhelmed by the atmosphere.
"This is Oakland and it's important to us that our employees and our customers are a very mixed crowd - and it's what we expect to see at the bar as well."
I'm hoping to belly up to the bar real soon and have a drink with some friends. And there's no need to fancy it up - just a straight shot of something good, bartender.
Chip Johnson is a San Francisco Chronicle columnist. His column runs on Tuesday and Friday. E-mail: firstname.lastname@example.com Twitter: @chjohnson


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This revolutionary 300,000 square foot, multi-use facility serves as a central hub for the 26,000 students that attend Nova Southeastern University. Located on a beautiful 300-acre campus in Davie, NSU is the largest independent institution of higher education in Florida.
With students leaving campus to train at outside, less functional facilities, Nova was in need of a high-performance sports complex that would motivate students and faculty without sacrificing resilience. Choosing Johnsonite's flooring gave NSU the durability within their sports complex that they were looking for, while also incorporating the aesthetic values that matched NSU colors and spirit.
A high-performance sports complex has influence over a student's decision about the school that they will attend and Nova was very happy with the results. "The students couldn't help but be in awe as they entered the complex for the first time," commented Tom Vitucci, Director of Campus Recreation. "We have been hearing that this facility is more functional then larger universities.
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Type of Project: Sports Complex Construction
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The Pleasure of Their Company
The Age of Conversation
Not long after World War I, the art critic Clive Bell set out to define and defend the "civilization" his nation had allegedly been fighting for. Looking back from Bloomsbury to Voltaire and beyond, he picked out what were by common consent three summits of civilized living: Periclean Athens, Renaissance Italy, and France between the mid-seventeenth century and the Revolution. The last of these he calls "that charming age," speaking of the "peculiar deliciousness" of Parisian society. By 1928, this image of pre-Revolutionary France as an exquisitely sociable world had a long history. Much nearer the time, Germaine de Staël, exiled by Napoleon, had evoked in her De l'Allemagne the lost pleasures of French conversation:
Paris is recognized as the one city in the world where wit and a taste for conversation are most widespread; and what is known as the mal du pays, that indefinable mourning for one's country…, is particularly applicable to the pleasure of discourse, which the French find nowhere to the same degree as at home.
Such proclamations of a "French exception" naturally aroused the envy and sometimes the hostility of less blessed nations.
Staël wrote out of nostalgia, and if in 1928 Bell was interested in this lost world, it was as a provocative antidote to tendencies in the British society of his day. In recent decades, however, the complex of practices, beliefs, and ideas that are evoked by terms such as courtesy, civility, politeness, and civilization has become a subject of academic research for cultural historians. Thus the advocacy of polite behavior and polite literature in eighteenth-century England and Scotland is currently described as an essential factor in the creation of a homogeneous and peaceful society after the wars of the seventeenth century. But it is France, the exemplar of polite sociability, that has attracted the most attention. Here too, the enterprise of civilization is often seen in political terms, coming as it does after the Wars of Religion between 1562 and 1598 and coinciding with the assertion of centralized royal power. At the same time though, many scholars, of whom the most prominent is Marc Fumaroli, have painted an attractive picture of this elite culture as a uniquely valuable creation, a work of art in its own right.
It is this society—whether myth or reality—that Benedetta Craveri evokes in The Age of Conversation, first published in Italian, much praised in its French version, and now translated into English by Teresa Waugh. In her thoughtful book, Craveri, the author of an earlier book about the salonnière Madame du Deffand and her world, draws effectively on the vast range of recent scholarship in this field, which is listed and discussed in a substantial and extremely useful bibliographical essay. But the main part of the book is not so much a study as an attractive story, written in a style "unburdened by academic language" (a style that might have appealed to the people she writes about, though the English translation sometimes blurs the…
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Each year, beginning in 2011, Rockhurst University focuses on one of the six Jesuit core values. These annual themes are inflused into the Rockhurst experience, from academics to special events to student reflections.
Twenty-six students are selected each year to provide a reflection on that year's theme. We encourage you to browse these thought-provoking reflections and discover what each value represents in the eyes of today's Rockhurst students.
Themes for each year are:
2011-12: Finding God in All Things
2012-13: Reflection and Discernment
2013-14: Magis - More
2014-15: Cura Personalis - Care for the Whole Person
2015-16: Wisdom
2016-17: Contemplation in Action
2017-18: Finding God in all Things


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Washington - President Barack Obama's explicit warning that he will not accept a unilateral Israeli attack against Iran may force Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to step back from his ostensible threat of war.
Netanyahu had hoped that the Obama administration could be put under domestic political pressure during the election campaign to shift its policy on Iran to the much more confrontational stance that Netanyahu and Defence Minister Ehud Barak have been demanding.
But that political pressure has not materialised, and Obama has gone further than ever before in warning Netanyahu not to expect U.S. backing in any war with Iran. Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Martin Dempsey told reporters in Britain Aug. 30 that an Israeli strike would be ineffective, and then said, "I don't want to be complicit if they (the Israelis) choose to do it."
It was the first time that a senior U.S. official had made such an explicit public statement indicating the administration's unwillingness to be a party to a war provoked by a unilateral Israeli attack.
Dempsey had conveyed such a warning during meetings with Israeli leaders last January, as IPS reported Feb. 1, but a series of moves by the administration over the next several months, including the adoption of Israeli demands during two rounds of negotiations with Iran on the nuclear issue in May and June, appeared to represent a retreat from that private warning.
Dempsey's warning was followed by an as-yet unconfirmed report by Time magazine that the Pentagon has decided to sharply cut back on its participation in the largest-ever joint military exercise with Israel designed to test the two countries' missile-defence systems in late October.
Originally scheduled for last spring, the exercise was delayed in January following an earlier round of Israeli sabre-rattling and the apparent Israeli assassination of an Iranian scientist, which had further increased tensions between Netanyahu and President Obama.
Former Israeli national security adviser Giora Eiland suggested in an interview with Reuters Tuesday that the Dempsey statement had changed the political and policy calculus in Jerusalem. "Israeli leaders cannot do anything in the face of a very explicit 'no' from the U.S. president," Eiland said. "So they are exploring what space is left to operate."
Eiland explained that Netanyahu had previously maintained that the U.S. "might not like (an Israeli attack) but they will accept it the day after. However, such a public, bold statement meant the situation had to be reassessed."
Netanyahu and Barak have never explicitly threatened to attack Iran but have instead used news leaks and other means to create the impression that they are seriously considering a unilateral air strike.
The Netanyahu campaign, aimed at leveraging a shift in U.S. policy toward confrontation with Iran, appeared to climax during the first two weeks of August amid a torrent of stories in the Israeli press suggesting that Netanyahu and Barak were getting closer to a decision on war.
An unnamed senior official – almost certainly Barak – indicated in an interview that the Israeli leader would reconsider the unilateral military option if Obama were to adopt the Israeli red line – in effect an ultimatum to Iran to end all enrichment or face war.
As Eiland suggests, however, Netanyahu may no longer feel that he is in a position to make such a demand when he meets Obama later this month. Not only has Obama drawn a clear line against unilateral Israeli action, but the Republican Party and its presidential candidate Mitt Romney have failed to signal that Obama's rejection of Netanyahu's belligerence on Iran will be a central issue in the presidential campaign.
Although the party platform said the threshold for military action should be Iran's acquisition of a nuclear weapons "capability" rather than the construction of an actual weapon, Romney did not embrace the threat to go to war unless Iran agrees to shut down its nuclear programme, as Netanyahu would have hoped.
That omission appeared to reflect the growing influence in his campaign of the "realist" faction of the Republican Party which opposed the radical post-9/11 trajectory of George W. Bush's first presidential term in office and re-asserted itself in the second term.
The party's marquee speaker on foreign policy was not a neoconservative but former Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice, whom the neo-conservatives viewed with disdain, not least because of her effort to begin diplomatic engagement with Iran.
Rice mentioned Iran only in connection with its crackdown against dissidents during her prime-time speech.
Until recently, prominent neo-conservatives, such as Dan Senor, Elliott Abrams, and Eric Edelman, as well as aggressive pro-Israel nationalists such as former U.N. ambassador John Bolton, had appeared dominant among Romney's foreign policy advisers.
The fact that the billionaire casino mogul Sheldon Adelson, a strong supporter of Netanyahu and the Israeli far right, has pledged up to 100 million dollars to support the Republican campaign seemed to assure them of the upper hand on Israel and Iran.
But neo-conservatives may have lost influence to the realists as a result of Romney's ill-fated trip in July to Britain, Israel and Poland – all neo-conservative favourites – as well as recent polling showing ever-growing war-weariness, if not isolationism, among both Republicans and the all-important independents in the electorate.
On the convention's eve, Lee Smith, a neo-conservative scribe based at the Standard, published an article in Tablet Magazine entitled "Why Romney Won't Strike Iran".
One of Romney's senior advisers, former CIA chief Gen. Michael Hayden, has even partially echoed Dempsey, telling the Israeli newspaper Haaretz Thursday that an Israeli raid against Iran's nuclear facilities would likely be counter-productive.
Both Hayden's and Dempsey's remarks about the futility or counter-productivity of an Israeli attack on Iran echoed those of a broad range of Israel's national-security elite, including President Shimon Peres and the former chiefs of Israel's intelligence agencies and armed forces, who, provoked by Netanyahu's and Barak's war talk, have come out more strongly than ever against the idea.
In addition to publicly casting doubt on whether an attack would be effective, many of the national-security critics have warned that a unilateral strike could seriously damage relations with the U.S.
That argument, which resonates strongly in Israeli politics, was given much greater weight by Dempsey's warning last week.
Further eroding Israeli tolerance of Netanyahu's talk of war was a blog post on the Atlantic Magazine's website by Jeffrey Goldberg, an influential advocate of Israeli interests who has helped propagate the notion that Israel would indeed act unilaterally in the past. As the Netanyahu campaign reached its climax last month, Goldberg offered "7 Reasons Why Israel Should Not Attack Iran's Nuclear facilities".
Goldberg worried that an Israeli "strike could be a disaster for the U.S.-Israel relationship," especially if Iran retaliated against U.S. targets. "Americans are tired of the Middle East, and I'm not sure how they would feel if they believed that Israeli action brought harm to Americans," he wrote.
*Jim Lobe's blog on U.S. foreign policy can be read at http://www.lobelog.com. Gareth Porter, an investigative historian and journalist specialising in U.S. national security policy, received the UK-based Gellhorn Prize for journalism for 2011 for articles on the U.S. war in Afghanistan.


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Rampage Has a New Tattoo
(Photo courtesy of Combat Lifestyle.)
Quinton "Rampage" Jackson got himself a new tattoo to celebrate his win over Wanderlei Silva at UFC 92. And look, it has a religious theme. That's…that's good. For those of you unfamiliar with Christianity, that's
Rampage's The Lord's Prayer inked on the old forearm there. Just as long as he's getting his eight hours of sleep a night and three squares a day, have at it, big guy.
Also, remember in the great article on Rampage in The Atlantic where David Samuels describes Jackson's endearing habit of slapping people, just as a goof? Seems like he's still doing that.


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BUENOS AIRES, Argentina -- In the lobby of the Hilton hotel, the Crown Prince of Spain politely answered questions from two U.S. journalists but finished by saying you couldn't quote him because he wasn't doing interviews with the Spanish media, and it wouldn't be fair to them.
Prince Felipe's position was understandable if a bit confusing, given that he made an eloquent speech on behalf of Madrid's 2020 Summer Games bid to the International Olympic Committee two months ago and will be doing so again before Saturday's IOC vote on the host city.
A few hours later, Kuwaiti Sheikh Ahmad al-Sabah, whose stringy hair curling to the collar of his western suit makes him look more roguish than royal, all but ran across the lobby when asked for a comment about his purported status as a kingmaker and his support for Germany's Thomas Bach, the favorite to replace Jacques Rogge as IOC president.
In between, there was a swirl of heads as an imperial highness, Crown Princess Takamado of Japan, entered the lobby, having arrived to support the Tokyo 2020 bid.
Such interactions have been commonplace this week as the Hilton lobby, a huge atrium turned into a mosh pit of paid lobbyists, royalty and IOC members mingling, hugging, handshaking, hand-wringing, cheek kissing, rumor-mongering and maybe back-stabbing.
It was a theatrical scene that would seem surreal anywhere but the Olympic world on the days before major IOC decisions like those that will be made the next few days.
Saturday, the IOC will choose among Madrid, Tokyo and Istanbul as 2020 host. Sunday, it will be whether wrestling, squash or baseball/softball gets the one available sports spot on the Olympic program for 2020 and 2024. Tuesday, it will be which of the six candidates gets the eight-year term as IOC president (with a possible four-year renewal).
"I have absolutely no fear for my back," IOC member Rene Fasel of Switzerland said.
Fasel likened the atmosphere to a grand bazaar. Then he looked at the seven floors of glass-bordered balconies and agreed with a suggestion there was a sense of being playthings in the Roman Coliseum.
"There are no lions here," Fasel said."Or some may think they are lions, but they have not so good teeth. And I am a dentist."
A nest of vipers, maybe?
"I'm not going to call them vipers. They're all too well-dressed," IOC member Anita DeFrantz of Los Angeles said, smiling broadly.
So how was it someone leaked information Thursday about wrestling having committed a violation of rules governing its Olympic program candidacy, an infraction so minor the IOC dismissed the matter a day after international wrestling federation president Nenad Lalovic self-reported it? Was that done to hurt wrestling's chances?
"Everything is possible," Lalovic said.
And what about the allegations, made in a German TV documentary, that Sheikh Ahmad is effectively influence-peddling on Bach's behalf? After all, the sheikh is president of the Asian Olympic committees and the Association of National Olympic Committees and head of the Olympic Solidarity Commission.
The last position puts the sheikh in charge a fund to help sports in developing countries that will disperse $438 million (probably pocket change for him) between 2013 and 2016. The German documentary quoted Kenyan Olympic Committee chairman Kip Keino as saying, "Thomas needs a lot of support," and an unnamed African IOC member as saying all 12 African voters would pick Bach.
"It is accurate," Keino said Friday of African support for Bach.
The sheikh, a member of Kuwait's ruling family, said publicly he was backing Bach, only to skim back after being told such public expressions of support violated IOC ethics rules — a restriction that seems silly.
"It is clear the people (Sheikh Ahmad) has supported on different occasions in recent months have won elections, so he seems to have good influence on the outcome of some issues or elections,'' said Denis Oswald from Switzerland.
Bach dismissed the idea of Sheikh Ahmad pulling strings.
"There is no kingmaker," Bach said. "It is not working as it used to many years ago where you had a group of opinion leaders."
All IOC votes are by secret ballot, allegedly to protect IOC members from being pressured by outside forces (like wealthy sheikhs?) That means members can promise a vote to several parties and never be called to account.
That is how Chicago consultants figured the city's 2016 Olympic would get between 23 and 33 votes in the first round of a four-city race. It got 18 and was eliminated immediately as the three others had between 23 and 28 opening-round votes.
IOC member Alex Gilady of Israel stood near the front door of the Hilton and assessed the maelstrom of schmoozers and arm twisters behind him.
"There are those who guess, those who hope and those who think they know," Gilady said, "but no one person here knows the result."


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Human Rights and China
A symposium held March 6-7, 2008 at Claremont McKenna College
The symposium was co-sponsored by the Center for the Study of the Holocaust, Genocide, and Human Rights and the Marian Miner Cook Athenaeum at Claremont McKenna College. The Gould Center engaged the following individuals to participate in the symposium:
Dai Qing: A prominent journalist and activist, especially notable for her opposition to the Three Gorges Dam Project. Her many books include The River Dragon Has Come and Yangtze! Yangtze, banned after the Tiananmen Square protests of 1989. Following that event, Dai was officially denounced by the Chinese government, jailed for ten months, and forbidden to publish in China. She currently resides in Beijing.
Roderick MacFarquhar: Harvard University professor, noted China specialist, and British politician. Author of China Under Mao, The Forbidden City, The Secret Speeches of Chairman Mao, Mao's Last Revolution (with Michael Schoenhals), and many other books.
Wang Chaohua: As a graduate student in literature at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences, Wang participated in the central student committee and the Tiananmen Square protests in 1989, activities which landed her on the Chinese government's "21 Most Wanted Beijing Student Leaders" list. She spent six months in hiding before emigrating to the United States, where she has written extensively and authoritatively on contemporary Chinese intellectualism.
Gloria Davies: Associate Professor at the School of Asian Languages and Studies at Monash University (Australia). Dr Davies has authored many books (including Worrying About China: The Language of Chinese Critical Inquiry; Harvard University Press, 2007) and articles on Chinese literature and thought, and lectured and participated in many conferences in Australia, China, and the U.S.
Orville Schell: Former dean of the University of California, Berkeley Graduate School of Journalism, Schell has written nine books on China. Schell's articles have appeared in such publications as The Atlantic, Harper's, The New Yorker, The New York Times, and Newsweek. He has also served as a correspondent and consultant for several documentaries in the Public Broadcasting Service's series, "Frontline."
Gao ErTai: Branded a dangerous subversive in the Anti-Rightist movement in 1957, Chinese writer-painter-art critic ErTai Gao was arrested and sentenced to hard labor at a camp harboring what the regime had deemed to dangerous dissidents. Granted a reprieve in 1962, Gao worked at the Research Institute of Cultural Relics in Dunhuang until 1966, when the Cultural Revolution again attempted to stifle writers and artists who had not received official benison. Following his arrest and 138-day incarceration after the Tiananmen Square uprising in 1989, Gao fled the country, and has since worked in exile. Currently he is a visiting scholar at the University of Nevada's International Institute of Modern Letters. His essays on aesthetics and literature include Xunzhao Jiayuan ("In Search of My Homeland") and Tiechuang Bairi ("A Hundred Days Behind Bars").
Lindsay Waters: Executive Editor for the Humanities, Harvard University Press. Waters has published numerous books about China and Chinese intellectuals, as well as articles about the recent pressures on China's intellectual and literary journals.


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Report: Crime Goes Up In Philly When The Eagles Lose
I already knew this statistic, but thanks to Thacover2, I can now share with the rest of the world.
According to Tim McManus of Birds 24/7, Philadelphia Police Commissioner Charles Ramsey told Eagles players in 2012 that crime actually goes up in Philadelphia when they lose.
"He basically said crime rates jump up significantly when we lose," Kendricks recalled. "He told us that, and I was like, 'Damn, if that's a real statistic, we better start winning.' "
We took Kendricks' advice and decided to look it up. More specifically, we contacted the Police Commissioner's office to see if they could provide any data that would potentially support this theory. In response, they listed for Birds 24/7 the number of arrests, by category, on days of 1 o'clock Eagles games dating back to the 2011 season. There were 24 games in all, 11 of which were wins and 13 losses.
In this particular sample size, there was no significant difference when it came to serious crimes. There was a noticeable spike in the number of disorderly conduct arrests on days the Eagles lost, however. There were 19 disorderly conducts cited after wins and 64 following a loss. In other words, the number of those kind of arrests/gameday nearly tripled on days of losses in this sample.
Interestingly, 25 of those 64 arrests on the day of a defeat (40 percent) came during the two home losses to the Giants.
The conclusion? Philly gets a little more ornery following a loss, especially when New Yorkers are in town to rub it in. Sounds about right.
Let the harsh slander about my city begin in 3,2,1.


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DTK has to bee my favorite heroic dungeon. I know how to do each boss, I know how to handle every single pull and even some neat little tricks. Like those scourge troll riders right before the big dinosaur, if you have a ret pally, repentance one and they lose their pet.
VH is my other favorite, and my only complain is that dumb ethereal Xevozz that has made me wipe more than any other boss in the game. The wipes are due to bad tanking and not kiting him correctly, and having people not stay behind me when I tank. All other boses have been single shotted ever since our groups have enough DPS and enough Heals to just overpower the void.
One of the things that I have not been very good at is at calling a group done when I know we are not going to be sucessful in the hopes that people are learning. I have no problem farming a dungeon for gear when the party knows what we are doing, but wiping over and over because it is the daily makes no sense to me. The 20g that you might get from the quest does not make up for the 40g in repair.
The thing that I am very guilty about is not going to an instance that I know we are going to wipe at… mostly because of lack of knowledge by everyone, but in great part because I just have not had any fun when I have gone. I recently tanked a non heroic Azjol-Nerub for a group, and even thought we pwned the place I got no pleasure from it. I have not done this one in heroic and I know I want to just for the achievement… but I keep on putting it off because I don't want to spend the time learning everything about it and then passing on the knowledge for a place that I have no interest on.
I am looking forward to a lot of things with the duel spec that is coming up, but the one that I am probably looking forward to the most is being able to have my warrior speced DPS. Going to an instance and being able to just DPS without having to lead will make going to Oculus, Old Kingdom and Azjol-Nerub that much better.
So what are some of your favorite or least favorite places to go to?
Thanks to Pug Checker you can see that I do not like any of the instances above. TH Nance from Alteracvolley.com


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If this is possible (and I have no idea if it is - personally I doubt it) it will be via a client side scripting language such as vBscript. It will definitely not utilise any server side languages such as PHP or ASP - since these run on the server the only way they can affect the client is by sending it instructions within the outputted HTML.
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Yours truly was off in Portland this past weekend soaking in the nice weather and great displays of public art-did you realize how clean the streets were?!
Well, in addition to checking out the amazing cafes-which I say rival the ones in Seattle-I also got a chance to be taken around by the fashion guru of Portland, Mr. Ryan JD Christensen.
He is the creator and genius behind the fashion line Sameunderneath and currently serves on the Board of our sister to the south, the Oregon Bus Project. More about the stores and Ryan's awesome hair after the jump…… Continue reading 'Forty-Eight hours in Portland'


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As the son of a part-time DJ, Hurricanes offensive lineman Harland Gunn said he grew up listening to all kinds of music in his home in Omaha, Nebraska.
Oldies. Rap. R&B. Lately, though, the 6-2, 310-pound left guard at the University of Miami said he's been expanding his tastes even more.
"I've been listening to Led Zepplin and stuff like that to get me ready for the games." said Gunn, a fifth-year senior who has started 26 games in his career for the Hurricanes including 21 in a row.
"If I had to pick one song as my theme song it would be Power by Kanye West."
Why? "Because it's all about power," Gunn said. "You got to have power in this world."
Truth is there may not be a more fitting theme song for Gunn, hands down the strongest and most powerful player on UM's football team. Strength and conditioning coach Andreu Swasey said Gunn owns the highest marks on both squat (600 pounds-plus) and bench press (500-plus). "I think [defensive end] Olivier Vernon might be the only one who has [Gunn] on the power clean," Swasey said Wednesday.
Those strength numbers hardly surprise Gunn's father, Harland Gunn Sr. In the eighth grade, Gunn Sr. said his son was bench pressing 250 pounds, wearing a size 13 shoe and challenging his dad to lift offs in their garage.
"Harland's hands are bigger than mine. My fingers might be a little longer. But his fingers are thick. He's got big paws, man," said Gunn Sr., who at 6-6, 320-plus pounds was a standout high school football player himself who didn't make it further because he "tore his right knee up" and "started making children early."
"Harland's always been a competitor. When you're a young man, you see your father as a big guy and you want to be as strong as him. We'd go at it on the bench. I'd try to push him and keep him going. It didn't take him very long to pass me by."
Of course, there is more to Gunn than power and strength.
After hardly speaking a word to his teammates the first three months he was at UM according to center Tyler Horn, Gunn has grown into a chatter box, comedian and team leader. Gunn has even learned how to perfect his Spanish in his time time in Miami, taking two Spanish classes at UM after taking four years of classes in high school.
"I try to speak to the natives, people around town," Gunn said. "I know the basics. Como estas? [How are you?] Estoy bien, y usted? [I'm good and you?] I'm a pretty big guy, I like to tell people 'Tengo hambre, necesita comer ahora.' [I'm hungry and I need to eat now]. Basic stuff."
"I think you'd be surprised how funny he is because he looks like a quiet guy," Horn said. "[Those glasses he wears] that's the studious Gunn -- that's his costume for Halloween... He's a big personality. He's one of those guys that takes a while to open up and now that he has he's a lot of fun."
Said right tackle Jonathan Feliciano: "Sometimes we can't get him to shut up.
But on the field, Feliciano said, "he's like a bowling ball. He kills people like they're pins."
UM coach Al Golden said Gunn's only bad game this year was against Georgia Tech. But despite that game, Golden feels Gunn is having "an all-conference type year" and said the senior has "the most second level cuts of anyone on the offensive line."
"I don't know if he's the foundation of [the offensive line], but he might be," offensive coordinator Jedd Fisch said. "He's a solid, strong, high character, high work ethic, lunch pail guy. He's a true blue collar approach to offensive line play. He'll fit in great for the rest of his life playing offensive line. They love those type guys in the NFL."
Offensive line coach Art Kehoe said Gunn's style of play reminds him of former Hurricanes K.C. Jones and Claude Jones.
"He's explosive man," Kehoe said. "I'm trying to get him a little more functional, a little more loose on his hips so he can use better footwork. But man, I like the way he plays. I like the way he pulls. He's a terrific person. He's almost a better person than he is a player. And he's a hell of a player."
Still, Gunn himself, wants to see improvement on the Canes offensive line as a whole. UM, which has given up 12 sacks (40th-fewest among 120 FBS schools), has struggled in short yardage situations this season.
The running game, which on Oct. 9 was averaging 182.6 yards per game (39th best in the nation), has struggled to get going over the last three games (UM now ranks 75th best in rushing offense at 145.5 yards per game). And the way the team was manhandled against Virginia left a bad taste in the mouths of everyone in charge of blocking.
"Last Thursday was probably our least physical game as an offense," fullback Maurice Hagens said. "When we watched the film, offensive linemen were in the backfield. Tight ends were getting blown up, fullback was getting blown up. That was something we weren't seeing. The last four games we have to go and blow everybody off the line."
Gunn agrees. "For some reason, we were just off rhythm, out of sync," Gunn said. "Offense is all about rhythm, timing, executing. This was our worst game in terms of execution by far.
"To me, it's just been about finishing. Guys are getting on their blocks. Nothing is wrong with the schemes or the blocks. It's the finish factor and it hasn't been here the last few games. It's the attitude. You have to reinvest in the attitude of running the ball."


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GREENVILLE, Ill.-- Panther kicker, Josh Frewin, was recognized as the UMAC Football Special Teams Player of the Week for his performance Saturday against Eureka.
Frewin, a senior from Payson, Ariz., had an impressive performance in the Greenville victory. He made all four extra point attempts in the game, including the game winner with 30 seconds left in the competition. Frewin also averaged 43 yards per punt in the four punts he attempted.


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Let's put a 48-core processor on a desktop or laptop before we talk about tablets or phones...
Why not concentrate on tablets and phones first?
1. They are the fastest growing segment and "everyone will have one"
2. This will then be your primary computing device that follows you around. It's with you when you need it, because...
3. It's easier to use a fully mobile device as a workstation device (just add a keyboard/monitor and fashionable pointing device) than it is to use a workstation device as a pocket computer.
4. Power savings from this kind of architecture are more critical on pocket devices
6. PROFIT! (Sorry)
I think it's a good way forwards. But that's just opinion so...
Because desktops have one less criteria to meet than tablets and phones - they don't have nearly as small of a power envelope.
The desktop, therefore could be seen as a logical step in the progression to getting it on the phone/tablet.
And I don't want my 48-core machine to be fucking mobile. It means I would then be expected to take my work everywhere with me. Fuck that. Until we learn how to respect the sanctity of vacation time in the US and bring up the average vacation length for workers to something near European standard I would rather see this in a non-mobile version first.
I guess it works for me as I can easily separate my working life from my personal life (Yes, I live in North America but I derived my only-work-at-work mentality from the other side of the pond).
And I don't want my 48-core machine to be fucking mobile. It means I would then be expected to take my work everywhere with me. Fuck that. Until we learn how to respect the sanctity of vacation time in the US and bring up the average vacation length for workers to something near European standard I would rather see this in a non-mobile version first.
I don't think you have anything to worry about. They're not making a portable deep fryer, this is a computer.
I don't think you have anything to worry about. They're not making a portable deep fryer, this is a computer.
Just put today's 48 core chip in a laptop, and there's your portable fryer.
SSH + HDMI + USB + EC2 + Wifi + a fibre.
Too much lag for gaming / interactive 3D work though.
That would make any sense at all if, in addition to processing power, the phone also had multiple gigabytes of primary memory and could utilize multiple peripherals for input (keyboard, mouse, etc) and output (monitors, printers, speaker systems), store hundreds of gigabytes of data, connect to multiple networks (including high-speed wired ones).
Let's see: 2GB primary memory (a little light but hey, it's almost 6 months old) 96GB nonvolatile storage, dual core 1.5ghz, 100+Mbit A/B/G/N wifi plus 100Mbit LTE (wires are for old people)... full monitor output via HDMI, plus bluetooth or usb peripherals. I'm sure in another year or two they will be able to add whatever it is that is still missing...
This will then be your primary computing device that follows you around.
This will then be your primary computing device that:
A) you leave on the roof of your car.
B) gets dropped in the toilet.
C) you spill your beverage on.
D) gets chewed up by your dog.
E) you get mugged for.
F) you leave in your hotel room.
G) you have confiscated by the authorities (should you find yourself at the wrong place/time)
H) gets reverse-engineered/stress-tested by your toddler
Shall I continue? Seriously; fuck all this smartphone nonsense; give me a borderline-disposable Nokia 2600-series and I'll happily call it a day!
When they said ``computing device that follows you around,'' they might've meant as ``your own personal terminator, follows you around and protects you''
``your own personal terminator, follows you around and protects you''
Okay, I'll get right on it.
What size would you like? 4ft,5ft, 5ft 5", 6ft, 6ft6", or 7ft?
Likely we'll either all have moved to cloud storage, or a better form of 'store at home, access anywhere via the internet' will have been developed for normal users.
I don't mean to be a dick here... but..
I've never had any of that stuff happen, and I've been a smartphone user since before they were called smartphones.
If you don't want one, you don't want one... fine. There's no need to rationalize it.
This will then be your primary computing device that:
A) you leave on the roof of your car.
B) gets dropped in the toilet.
C) you spill your beverage on.
D) gets chewed up by your dog.
E) you get mugged for.
F) you leave in your hotel room.
G) you have confiscated by the authorities (should you find yourself at the wrong place/time)
H) gets reverse-engineered/stress-tested by your toddler
You say that as if such destruction wouldn't cause you to (insurance-covered or not) buy ANOTHER phone thus stimulating market activity, as if that's not good?
Look guys, we need to work together to rescue the economy.
Because desktops are where you work out the power problems and is the test bed of the parts that end up in mobile? Its no coincidence that the parts start on desktops, the GPUs start as discretes and IGPs, because you don't have to worry about hitting the insanely low heat and power requirements on the mobiles as you refine the process while you still get paid.
This is one advantage AMD and Intel has had over their competitors, because they don't have to get the power and cooling right off the bat, they c
Fully agree:
5 years ago, the top of the line Intel consumer desktop CPU's had 4 cores.
today, the top of the line Intel consumer desktop CPU's have 4 cores.
So, get to it please!
No... 5 years ago the top of the line *mobile* CPUs had 2 cores.
Today the top of the line mobile CPUs have 4 much more powerful cores.
It turns out that the mobile CPUs are now used on most desktops too, but there are still more powerful desktop CPUs.
If, however, you want the top of the line *desktop* CPU, the 3930K has 6 cores and wipes the floor with any quad core CPU in existence... assuming you are running software that can actually take advantage of all those cores. Since a whole lot of even "multithre
Also, IRRC, weren't the quad core desktop CPUs from 4 years ago hyperthreaded, meaning 2 physical and 2 logical? That would make example, by comparison, a 12 core, as I believe Intel has sadly gone back to hyperthreading their CPUs.
The 3930K seems the one exception, but it's Sandy Bridge, and LGA 2011 chipset is borderline consumer! For Ivy Bridge, the newer architecture, it only goes up to 4 cores. And for the next architecture, Haswell, not even released yet, Wikipedia has the following feature to say: "Mainstream up to quad-core.".
I'm curious why Intel went from 1 core to 4 cores in a short period of time, and then remains stuck at 4 cores for more than half a decade.
The same reason they're stuck at 3-4GHz. Heat and power usage. They have to shrink to an even smaller manufacturing process to avoid those issues.
Actually, the core multitasking engine as rewritten by Mark Russinovich and company in Windows now supports multiple threads very well in Windows 7. Run a program that is not written for multiple threads (even a batch file) and watch as all your CPUs level out to nearly equal amounts (within ~10% usually). This happens with nearly any process these days.
So, 6 cores would work just fine for people. I think the real reason for the limit is that Intel doesn't want to cannibalize the overpriced virtualizat
Your top of the line must be different than mine.
Everyone always says that Apple makes consumer electronics, yet they have a 12-core Mac Pro that they've been selling for 2+ years now...
Yes, and the mac pros typically have TWO processors not 1. We are talking about cores per CPU here. Try to keep up.
today, the top of the line Intel consumer desktop CPU's have 4 cores.
More like 6. And the LGA2011 platform is also nice if for some reason you need 64GB (8x8GB) of RAM. The real issue for Intel is that most of things that "enthusiasts" care about don't scale that well. Sure, there's always people that need 3D rendering or whatever that could scale to 8+ cores easily, but they're more the "workstation" market. You're much more likely to find enthusiasts with a 3770K overclocked to 4-5 GHz and a few 2000+ MHz sticks of RAM than anything the LGA2011 offers. It's been that way s
Speaking of 5 years ago, we're still waiting for this [slashdot.org] to go commercial.
Any desktop with a decent GPU has more than that already.
But the difference between a desktop and a phone makes it harder to get good performance on the desktop with many cores - it's memory bandwidth that's the bottleneck. On a phone you can dedicate cores to certain well-defined tasks and optimize them for that.
...explained that with the prototype chip someone could, for instance, be encrypting an email while also working on other power-intensive apps at the same time — without hiccups. Same for HD video.
It sounds to me like the LG Optimus G [engadget.com] is already there with its quad-core Snapdragon.
I just played with one last week and I was quite amazed. The Optimus G really blew out of the water my Jellybeans Nexus 7 and my Jellybeans Galaxy Nexus with its super smooth UI and its HD video multi-tasking capabilities.
It's already been here since last year:
http://slashdot.org/story/06/09/26/1937237/intel-pledges-80-core-processor-in-5-years [slashdot.org]
Oops, that was just Intel's promise in 2006. Nvm, carry on.
From Rob Pike [usesthis.com]:
Twenty years ago, you expected a phone to be provided everywhere you went, and that phone worked the same everywhere. At a friend's house, or a restaurant, or a hotel, or a pay phone, you could pick up the receiver and make a call. You didn't carry a phone around with you; phones were part of the infrastructure. Computers, well, that was a different story. As laptops came in, people started carrying computers around with them everywhere. The reason was to have the state stored on the computer, not the computer itself. You carry around a computer so you can access its disk.
In summary, it used to be that phones worked without you having to carry them around, but computers only worked if you did carry one around with you. The solution to this inconsistency was to break the way phones worked rather than fix the way computers work.
People think too one-dimensionally I think. They figure out that 2 or 4 cores means something is faster, therefore 48 cores would be even better (and then they get so excited they say something incredibly stupid like "redefine mobile devices"). But think in more than one dimeions. Maybe make the base CPU faster instead, add more memory, optimize things that are bottlenecks, etc.
48 cores is a really bad idea given the clumsy shared memory model current implementations use.
And what slows down smart phones
I think this way forward likely HELPS power usage if anything.
Let's take 2 power-equivalent processors. Both use 1W at the lowest non-idle power setting. Processor A is a 2 core model, B is a 48 core.
Each core on the 2 core model A uses approx 0.5W (ignoring overheads etc)
Each core on the 48 core model B uses approx 0.02W (ignoring overheads etc)
In this instance, it's likely that each of the model B cores will be one 24th as computationally powerful as a model A core.
If you have some trivial tasks (i.e. mos
(ignoring overheads etc)
I think I found the problem with your assumptions. Ignoring overheads can get you into a lot of trouble in parallel computing.
That's not how those things scale, though. In your example, for you device to be borderline useable, you'd have to use about 18 cores, minimum, at most times. Assuming perfectly threaded software, inifnitely scalable. Sleep state is a different beast, but then you can simply put an extra low power core that takes over in such cases, like the Tegra 3. Consider there are tons of ARM clusters around. When power consumption is equal, a system with dozens of cores is incredibly inneficient against an Intel Core
And we can stop then because, well, you know, 640 cores should be enough for anyone.
Keep floggin' that dead Larrabee horse, Intel.
Sure, you could put the power of today's typical desktop in a phone with such a beast, but by then we should have desktop boxes with an order of magnitude more power than one - and we'll find a way to "need" that extra power on the desktop. It's not just about chip capability and battery life - I'm mean you can always plug in a phone and run it full power 24/7. But you start running up against the limits of thermal dissipation. It's no surprise that maximum TDP has not changed a whole lot on the desktop per processor. We're still limited by the ability to aircool a chip that's really a 130+/- watt heater. That won't change. Remember also that until you standardize a dock with a real video connector (or crazy fast wireless video - not this compressed crap we use for movies), you're still limited to that little tiny window on the portable device.
The biggest potential savings is if they can shut down 47 cores and run one thread at low power when I'm not "using" it so the battery lasts as long as possible.
A while back I was working on site with a customer... a major featurephone manufacturer, who will remain nameless so as to protect the incompetent. We discovered that the phone would crash if our software ran the CPU flat-out, even if it was at a lower priority thread than anything else.
It turns out that the sorry excuse for an operating system this thing ran was doing system-critical tasks in the idle thread, so if the CPU didn't idle some message queues would overflow and the OS would reboot. When I ask
had to be said.
You're joking, but half-seriously, imagine if a manufacturer would make a cheap 'tablet' without a display and with physical network ports and just enough ventilation that you could stack multiple tablets as high as you please without overheating. Imagine a Beowulf cluster of those!
I imagine the power adapters and the power strips connected in series would look really silly.
Just before the AMD board executed him, Dirk Meyer screamed out: "MOAR COARZ!" And today we have Bulldozer.
The moral of the story is, MOAR != more all of the time. Especially in a freakin' cellphone, where, despite what some Slashdotters think, the primary use case is *not* performing massively parallel scientific simulations.
Hah! The Parallela Kickstarter project was from a group that already had a 64 core CPU that consumed only a watt or 4 of power when running full-tilt. If this takes Intel 10 years to design they'll be left in the dust.
BTW, they wanted the money to fund developing the mask for the Fab technique needed to mass produce them for $100 apiece instead of the few hundred apiece they now cost to manufacture. The chips already exist.
The phone would be smart enough to not just be a computer but it could be my computer.
Anyone have a clue what he means by "my computer"? All the computers I currently own and use are my computer already.
Currently your PC is a rather dumb tool, a useful tool but dumb. The fantasy is that stuff like Siri makes computers actually useful other then for finding cat pictures. Because outside work related coding and some gaming, I don't use my PC for much that other devices couldn't also do. Yes, I watch movies on it but I can watch movies on a projector if they still sell them. I can play music on a wax cylinder.
Yes, there are some small advantages but not nearly as many as you would like.
Play romantic music com
Not useful without a serious change in computer architecture.
Amdahl's law [wikipedia.org]. It's a bitch, baby.
Haven't we already been here? When multi-core processors first became widely available, I recall a study that showed that anything over 8 cores was counterproductive. First, very few people have enough background stuff running to need more processing power than that. Second, coordinating multi-tasking on multiple cores requires a lot of complex work by the operating system, unless you just dedicate one to each process (not to each thread - that opens up problems with cache and data consistency). The benchmarks on desktop computers showed that adding more than 8 cores to a general purpose system actually slowed the system down due to added OS overhead.
About the only way this many cores can be useful is for graphics processing (or, in TFA, video processing): many simple cores work in parallel for the same process, on different parts of the same data. This, of course, is what graphics chips already do for a living.
. unless you just dedicate one to each process (not to each thread - that opens up problems with cache and data consistency).
How so? Any issues with cache consistency have to do with each core having their own L1/L2 caches but sharing the same memory. This is what hardware based cache coherence protocols like MESI were invented for and have nothing to with running multiple processes vs. multiple threads. Are you're referring to the fact that threads in the same process share the same address space? There has to be care taken to serialize access to critical sections(such as using a lock based on a mutex), and while blocking threa
Haven't we already been here? When multi-core processors first became widely available, I recall a study that showed that anything over 8 cores was counterproductive.
This assumes he means equally-powerful cores.
I can easily see having 8 high-speed cores for games and intensive processing, 4 super-low-speed ones for background tasks during idle moments with the screen turned off, and some medium-speed cores for normal use with the screen on.
As far as efficiently using all 48 cores for one task goes -- the programming capable of doing that would be horrendously difficult or embarrassingly easy without much room in between. Amdahl's law [wikipedia.org] shows that even with mythical 99% sc
Modern phones already have many, many cores in them. They are just not general purpose cores available for use by the OS or applications.
For example the radios in phones are software defined, meaning they have an RF front end that just feeds the signal to a dedicated signal processing core to do decoding. They have at least one for the mobile network radio, one for WiFi, one for Bluetooth, one for NFC, one for GPS. The audio codec will have a signal processor that can do mixing, digital filtering and parametric equalization. The cameras will each have processors to handle some image processing before the data is handed to the main CPU.
You could combine all these cores into a single CPU, and then you would have the advantage of being able to use them for other things when they are not busy handling the aforementioned hardware. The problem is that these more general purpose cores tend to use a lot more power than dedicated ones designed specifically for one application, but presumably Intel things it will get the power budget down to something acceptable in 10 years time (or batteries will get a lot better).
Most of those cores are DSPs. x86 variants are crap for DSP related operations. TBH x86 is crappy for pretty much everything.
The way we should be going is reconfigurable logic. For example when an mp3 is played, the device is reconfigured to contain a hardware codec. This can work on an async clock so it will only tick on data availability. When it's not being played, it turns of the macrocells that it was built on. There should be analogue and digital macrocells which can take on the RF and computational
Want to impress the pointy heads talk about more cores.
Throwing more cores is not the solution to all problems and actually opens up a whole bunch of new ones.
I wish that more attention would be spent to solve real problems rather than trying to be buzzword compliant.
Until you revise the whole way people write software, adding cores is useful to a very limited point. Today's software can be split at one core per thread, or one core per process. If you try to get two cores to work on the same thread, you just increase serial contention, not decrease it.
Even thread-happy Java is only working on maybe 3-5 threads at a time, the rest are sleeping until a device wakes it, or until a certain time has elapsed. A new compiler may be able to help a little bit, but it's just going to be creating very short-lived micro-threads when it detects those few opportunities for them.
Graphics hardware is great for many parallel cores, because it's the same tight problem with different data, endlessly repeated. Multiply these 4x4s please. Fill these pixels please. Endlessly. Same goes for encryption, and maybe a few bits of video game AI logic. Not many other software naturally fits to using many cores.
Current phones do just fine with HD video and multitasking. Sure, some may glitch occasionally, but more due to software design than lack of CPU. This will do little to nothing for the things we use our phones for today.
What it will enable is new classes of features, such as real-time video and voice processing. With that sort of CPU power, you can do voice recognition without sending the audio over the network for analysis. Who knows what people will think of doing for video analysis?
Though for the most part, the added cores will be powered down, doing nothing but putting a good bragging number on the spec sheet.
Core 1-12 : DRM
- these cores will check all audio/video/ebook files for copyright infringement
Core 13-24 : TPM
- these cores will implement TPM and secure the DRM portion
Core 25-37 : Genuine Advantage Checking
- these coes will check that the system state is valid, and all license keys are valid and updated
Core 38-40 : Virus Checking
- these cores will implement malware checks and virus checks
Core 41-47 : OS and Sandboxing/Security
- these cores will run the base os, and run all applications in sandbox mode
Core 48 : User Application
- this core will be available for running user applications in the performance reduced sandbox mode. Priority is given to cores 1-47, in order of decreasing priority.
My phone won't become my computer because it's not about the CPU power. Hasn't been for ages now. The average phone already has more CPU power than the average desktop user makes use of. It's more about:
So while more cores may help phones do phone-like things better, especially combined with nifty ideas like Google Glass, but it's not going to help the phone replace my desktop.
Sure, but how *fast* would these micro-cores run? Will we wind up with a single core not being able to handle anything on it's own?
Plus, adding more cores for shared tasks increases the management overhead. It's like a project: more resources can help get the job done faster...if they're properly co-ordinated, communicating properly, and everyone isn't waiting for one particular resource to finish it's task before the others can proceed. All of this takes significant overhead time IRL, I can't imagine it would be much different for flocks of cores...
I can see this allowing more simultaneous processes to run without bumping into one another, but basic speed for each process might go way, way down.
The phone would be smart enough to not just be a computer but it could be my computer.
As trends continue it will not be "my computer" it'll remain my service provider's computer which they graciously let me use a small fraction of its capabilities for a monthly fee.
I'm still waiting for the 80-core PC.
How about realizing one of your predictions before creating another. You never achieved an 80-core PC and barely made a dent into the mobile CPU market so don't bother predicting anything for the mobile market until you are player.
Also Intel, its time to change your architecture. Packing in billions of transistors into a core to support legacy instructions is not an efficient design anymore. I don't want 4, 48 or 80 cores with defunct MMX and obsolete x86 instructions. Stop making CPU's where every core contains the entire history of Intel.
Intel like to throw claims like this out there to try and win mind-share.
It means nothing, but sounds impressive in a vague, buzz-wordy way. It's just marketing.
I'm not surprised their vague future predictions are aimed at mobile now. They desperately need mind-share in that segment.
"Look! We're relavent in mobile! We'll have FORTY-EIGHT cores! All with frickin' laser beams attached to their heads!"
With even the cheap desktops coming with mobile CPU's now, we're just seeing a widening gap between power users and the mainstream computer owner. I upgraded my wife's computer to a wimpy Sempron 145 and she couldn't be happier with finally having 8GB of RAM (not to mention it being DDR3) and not really needing more CPU power. While I on the other hand am upgrading to an Ivy Bridge i7 this week and am not totally sure if I went high enough.
The issue they're trying to solve isn't "how do we make more powerful phones?", it's "how can we lower power usage without sacrificing power?".
If you try to improve performance the same way desktops did (higher clocks, great gobs of cache, and more execution units inside the core), you'd raise performance, but you'd also massively increase your power draw without giving you an easy way to lower it when it's not in use. Underclocking only gets you so far - ideally, you'd need to be able to shut down executio
Reminds me of an old Soviet Russia joke(more here [johndclare.net]):
A Polish tourist comes back home after visiting the USSR. He carries two very large and heavy suitcases. On his wrist is a new Soviet-made watch. He tells the customs man: "This is a new Soviet watch. It's a wonder unknown in the capitalist countries. You see, it shows time, the rate of your pulse beats, the phases of the Moon, the weather in Warsaw, Moscow, and New York, and more and more!"
"Yes, it's a wonder," the customs man agrees. "And what is it you have in these big suitcases?"
"Oh, it's just the batteries for that watch."
Ya, with nanobattery life these things will have, people might actually go out and expirence the real world again, while their phone/tablet charges.
This process can check if this value is zero, and if it is, it does something child-like. -- Forbes Burkowski, CS 454, University of Washington


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