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.... you'd be breaking network and security policies up the wazoo by plugging your own server into the network, much less having a machine that IT couldn't manage and audit.
Yeah. Scanning it for vulnerabilities doesn't answer the question of whether your server is intentionally malicious.
If the calendar is externally available (just not in an iPhone friendly format) then perhaps you can get a compromise with IT to jack your server in a port outside the firewall.
Yeah, what the worlds needs is some disgruntled employee putting a computer in their office that will dump client data out a particular port without IT knowing what is going on.
That explains a lot. Guess what, Head of the Division: just because you are smart, and well trained in YOUR field, does not make you a computer or network expert. As the head of a division at an academic hospital, you have a responsibility to not only follow HIPPA (or your country's equivalent) requirements yourself, but to set an example for the medical professionals training at your facility.
Do you simply not understand that plugging unauthorized and unaudited equipment into a hospital's network is not only a very bad idea, but against the law in most places? As the head of a division, you should understand that.
The fact that you were "taken aback" by a request to follow policy indicates that you most likely view this as a dick waving contest. It is not. Your dick will not shrink if you allow the computer professionals to audit your work and comply with hospital policy and the law. No one expects you to be a network expert, that is your hobby, not your profession.
In short, stop being a condescending ass and let the professionals do their job. If I knew an untrained "division head' was setting up unauthorized networking equipment, I would avoid that hospital like the plague, as I don't want hacked equipment broadcasting my medical history to the world, understand?
The fact that you were "taken aback" by a request to follow policy indicates that you most likely view this as a dick waving contest. It is not. Your dick will not shrink if you allow the computer professionals to audit your work and comply with hospital policy and the law.
Now who's the doctor here?
In short, stop being a condescending ass and let the professionals do their job. If I knew an untrained "division head' was setting up unauthorized networking equipment, I would avoid that hospital like the plague, as I don't want hacked equipment broadcasting my medical history to the world, understand?
We had a thread similar a while back - I explained that there are reasons IT does things. It has nothing to do with wanting to "spite" the users. It has plenty to do with ignorant users thinking that the cra
You seem to have read the request for input as condescending, pompous, and arrogant.
I did not see it as that.
I read it as, "Hey guys, I know what I'm doing (computer-wise), but I'm not sure if IT should have constant access to it. What do you think?"
Yet instead of giving the guy a normal answer ("This may not be HIPPA compliant... as much as you may hate it, you have to follow IT's rules on their network...") , you felt the need to attack him. Why? Because he's not a system administrator by employ?
Of all th
Let me put it this way: I'm "taken aback" that he would be taken aback by a request to comply with hospital policy and federal law.
I think the real question should be should IT shut down any network port they see your rogue equipment connected to.
Hint: the answer is yes
Depending on the poster's country, there may be a lot of regulatory, compliance, legal, and other issues at play here. This appears to be a rogue server as you cite. If I were the head of IT, I'd have it outta-there in a heartbeat and write up whomever deployed it-- on the surface and without other information, this is a problem.
WIthout more information, it sounds to me like a convenience issue for the department head, but it's a legal nightmare looking for a spot marked X-- that server, for starters.
A good IT manager would mosey over and have a sit-down to explain the IT policy concerning servers, lay out all the reasons why IT is responsible for them - backups, security scans, keeping antivirus up to date, tracking hardware assets, etc.
By the end of the conversation, the owner of said rogue device would be thinking 'Wow, I really should hand this over, this guy is much more capable than I am at maintaining a server.. and why would I _want_ to maintain a server anyway?'
No need for threats or derision for being ignorant. (note: ignorance isn't a bad trait as long as it isn't willful and repeat, it just means you don't know)
You see this type of thing a lot in healthcare actually (not usually so egregious). IT has a requirement to follow policy and legal regulations, (HIPAA, SOX, HITECH, etc). Due to this, some of the shinies that individuals may want are not allowed. Instead of recognizing the reasons, people do what the submitter did and try to do an end run around the whole process ignoring the fact that what IT is doing by not allowing these things is protecting the company in a legally mandated way.
Occasionally with ext
Some questions not answered:
Did the OP ask the IT department what sort of services they are capable of providing? Hospital IT departments are usually in the habit of trying to provide departments with what they need, as department heads and doctors generally win the battle for "I want ________" when it goes up the chain.
Did he inform IT of his plans prior to executing it, or just bring in a server and set it up, then start asking for access? If he did the former, they might have worked with him, providing him with rackspace, security, and expert administration so that his workload was limited to application administration. if he did the latter, he's lucky they haven't made an issue out of it and gotten him written up.
Did he make sure he's not violating any federal regulations regarding patient data security? A rogue server on the network is a MAJOR security threat, no matter how competent the administrator is (or believes himself to be).
Did he think about the precedent this sets? If every department decides to go running their own servers on their own terms, IT can't support them and the whole hospital steps back about 20 years in how their network functions.
Did he consider the idea that maybe the service he's setting up for his own department might be useful to scale to the entire hospital at a later date? it sounds like he's found a service he considers worth putting a lot of effort into providing...for just his department. If it's good for radiology, it's likely good for lots of others. But HIS server probably can't accommodate that scale. HIS server isn't centralized. HIS server...well, is his.
More than that, who says you are a qualified systems admin? You say "I am head of a clinical division at an academic hospital (not Radiology, but similarly tech oriented)." And I take it that you installed BSD and OpenLDAP. My question is... so what? Who is to say what you really know? You are operating in a hospital. You have medical records. The IT staff there MUST make sure ALL systems there comply with HIPPA and industry security standards.
Hey, the IT guy watches Grey's Anatomy. Can he perform medical tests in your hospital? No? So what makes you think you are comparable to IT? They respect your job, how about you respect their's.
I'm sorry, but there is no way in hell I would let you on such a network without root. Not an account, but root. And if I were a patient, I would be screaming bloody hell if I found out non-IT staff got to run their own servers on the hospital network. The fact that they let you run at all is mind boggling to me. Probably because they can't fire a department head or you have tenure or something similar.
But you are on the most sensitive type of network and balking at the most basic request. "Should I give IT a login account on a server that is not owned or managed by them?""
Should they allow you host a server on a network that is not owned or managed by you? Honestly, if you did this all without first passing it by my IT department, I'd do my best to have you fired. Don't wanna give access to your precious box... geez, you really think THAT is the big deal in all this. Unbelievable, foolish, and arrogant to say the least!
But instead of asking "should I give IT a login account on a server that is not owned or managed by them?" perhaps you should ask "should I give IT a login account on a server that is on their network?"
It becomes a lot less clear in that formulation, huh?
I heard such stories about hospitals over and over again.
Essentially what it boils down to is that hospital IT departments have almost no chance of establishing good environments, because every doctor that has 5 seconds of free time feels like they have both the authority and obligation to directly interfere with how IT does things.
Situations can vary from either the I've-been-working-for-50-years-without-a-computer-and-I'm-not-gonna-learn-how-to-use-one-now to what we have here where someone know how to make things better by themselves and simply bypasses the whole system with an application that is not supported or endorsed by the IT. And for sure does not integrate with other data-flow activities that are going on in the hospital.
In the end IT guys run for cover anytime when some local "god" decides that their way is best and things will run how they seem fit, because they just bought a new iPhone and want to have EVERYTHING interact with it. Screw the company-issued smartphones!
I'm aware that there might be bureaucratic red tape involved in getting things done. But if you go outside of system in the end you just make sure that nothing works for anyone instead of having a list of services that are stable and continue growing at a steady pace, based on a good input from everyone.
In any case, at the end of the day, why does a service like that even need to be hosted from within a hospital? Plug the server in at home and you avoid any problems if the calendar in iPhone is such a big deal for you.
Why does a server that is not owned or managed by the IT department exist inside the firewall?
In my workplace that's a sacking offence.
Also, this is a hospital.
Wouldn't this also be a HIPAA violation?
It's probably also AGAINST THE LAW. Christ. Submitter is an unmitigated moron. People are going to jail for HIPPA violations and you want to dump any old crap on the hospital network for a CALENDAR? Just use an external web based thing ya moron. Try Google Apps.
I'd have gone right to the pres and required you be fired immediately OP. Arrogant doctors are not to be let loose on the network without training wheels.
Indeed. Be happy they haven't fired you for violating acceptable use and/or purchasing policies. Don't expect to take this server with you when you leave, either.
IT not supporting the application is one thing, YOU buying unknown, unsupportable hardware, plugging it into their network and then being arrogant enough to decide they shouldn't even have a log in? You seem to be running a bit short on common sense here.
Also, this is not a random user requesting access, it is your information technology people who A) should know what they are doing and B) are on the hook for what happens on the network security-wise.
Indeed. Be happy they haven't fired you for violating acceptable use and/or purchasing policies. Don't expect to take this server with you when you leave, either.
The guy asking this question is an academic, and as head of his group is probably tenured - he's not in danger of being sacked. And at the risk of painting with too broad a brush... in my experience, a lot of faculty are used to doing whatever they want, and tend to let others worry about the less important stuff (like HIPAA compliance, if there's actually money in the budget to make a purchase, or generally cleaning up messes caused by aforementioned faculty not thinking things through).
Anyway, I think a b
At a minimum I would request that the box be placed on a separate VLAN that has no other access to the LAN. Internal access should go through the firewall rules like you would for an external server with all the appropriate logs and auditing. I would also transfer ownership by giving them the hardware.
You're asking them to open ports and you're "taken aback" for them asking for an account? They ARE the IT department.... did you even bother asking them if they had the capability of doing what you wanted before you reinvented the wheel?
You may not think that IT owns or manages your server, but they do own or manage the network. Imagine if some guy from IT came down to you and wanted to start looking through radiology records. I'm sure you'd ask him if it was ok to look over his shoulder every now and again before you gave him full access.
Tell them that the second they reimburse you for the server they can not only get a login, but they can become responsible for its maintenance and security and they had better be sure it has a solid uptime. That only seems reasonable.
Sounds great. He can have access to the network switch port and the firewall opened up as soon as that transaction is complete. The Hospital IT should have switched off the network port the second they heard of this machine. Well really the network ports should just not all be on to begin with.
If you're hit by a car tomorrow and die you want someone else to be able to pick up the work and go forward. Once upon a time I had a VP I worked for at an ISP put me and the other head of the IT department on a plane with him to LA. The three of us were the only ones with access to the entire companies systems. I mentioned to him, if the plane went down, the company would probably be dead within a week. He just laughed it off.
That said, your IT department are the best ones to handle this. I doubt the hospital is paying you to play tech nerd, I'm sure you have other work you should be doing. The IT guys are PAID to do this and are screened carefully (at least I hope so) by management to be trustworthy in doing it.
It sounds to me more like you're looking for job security by being the only one with keys to the castle.
Yes. The simplest is to give the tech an account with limited privileges, let him log on and look around, and then when you have this server up and running, reduce the privileges on his account further so that he can't interfere with anything.
But here's bigger factors you should worry about : think longer term. There's a chance that your hacked together server will be in use for the next 10-20+ years. Just how things go. Make sure to make an image file of the final configuration of the server onto a DVD
Play nice with them. Consider yourself lucky they didn't go ape-shit.
Give them a nice minimal account that doesn't have access to anything. That way you can show that your shit is tight. If they start demanding more then start playing hardball.
What you've done would cause any professional IT group to get out the hot tar, feathers, and rail. Or at least come into your office and ask you politely to remove the damn server from their facility. And never do this again. You must have missed all the security briefings, the issues with HIPPA, and whatnot when you were looking at systems. What you've done is to create a 'rogue system'.
Imagine one of your kids sets up a server in your house. You don't understand it, you don't know if it's happily sniffing network traffic to steal passwords so pizza can be ordered using your credit cards, serving up pr0n, or just running minecraft. Would you willy nilly allow the kids to open a port on your firewall without the ability to audit what they're doing ?
Of course not.
Personally I'm amazed that they only asked for an account on your little server. I would have gone over and watched while you removed it from the facility and put in in your car.
If my parents need a port to be opened, they have to come down to the basement and ask me.
Does it sit on an IT managed network? Connected to IT managed switches? Does it use IT managed/owned internet access? Did you get approval from IT to connect a server to their managed network and deploy an unapproved service from them before plugging it into the IT managed network?
Im willing to bet the answer to all of the above is "no". You should be prepared for the WWE type smackdown. You should also re-read the Acceptable use policy for your enterprise/organization and you should very politely offer them watever access they desire to allow your unauthorized service on their managed network.
Several issues here.
1.) You're storing organizational data on a non-organizationally owned IT device. For that reason alone, they should say "no". (What guarantee do they have that you won't take your machine with you when you quit/get fired, and the data with it?)
2.) Your machine is on their network. They are responsible for what happens on that machine. Your machine could potentially be used to escalate placement of an attacker to the rest of their network.
3.) Even if you leave your machine after yo
If you are able to put a server on the hospital's network and have it working without IT approval (apparently), then I'd say the hospital has a bigger problem.
Never mind the fact that IT is unable or unwilling to support the tools that you and your team need to do their jobs.
..."Should I give IT a login account on a server that is not owned or managed by them?"...
You mean not owned and managed by them right now. However, someday down the road, when you are gone, IT will have to manage the damn thing. The company I work for made a mistake many years ago by allowing every user to have Microsoft Access installed on their machines. A lot of power users went wild creating Access databases for their own purposes. Naturally, over time, two things happened: 1) The databases grew in size and complexity. 2) The company began to depend on them and link the information in them to each other. Very quickly, all these databases became IT's responsibility to manage, especially when the pinheads who designed them got promoted to their particular level of incompetence, or left the company. It has been very tedious getting the data away from these god-awful Access databases, and re-designed and normalized into proper SQL Server or DB2 databases.
Yes, IT should have access to your server. They'll have to manage it eventually anyway.
At the large company I worked for, hooking up personal computers to the network was a terminable offense. So no, you don't give them a login - you don't set this up at all.
The chief reason appeared to be fear of viruses and hackers, but there are many, many more. The hacker front can be a bit obscure: What if your CEO read the article about RSA getting hacked by an excel file with an embedded flash object, and the CIO assures the board that all computers will have flash removed and tasks IT with identifying and removing flash everywhere? How are they going to look having to explain 'well, we got everything, except for the personal computers that we don't have access to'?
Lets say people start relying on the service you are providing with a personal computer under your desk. What if it goes down? Helpdesk will get called, and need to know what to tell the caller so they don't appear incompetent, and need to be able to address the problem. What if IT is required to certify that all of their computers have X patch applied as part of a compliance audit for certification? What if a corporate policy goes out that no computer can run unecnrypted ftp regardless of port # they run it on? What if your company is obligated to ensure that terminated employees can't log in to servers? What if a lawsuit is served and your company is required to provide copies of all records pertaining to meetings with client xyz, and your calendar server has meeting info on it but your IT department doesn't even know it exists? None of these things are unreasonable, but none of them can be done easily if you're allowed to set up whatever box you want doing whatever.
Sure, it makes your job harder if you have to go through official channels to get the things you need to get your job done. But your company needs to be able to get their job done too, and a bunch of random whatever-somebody-set-up-under-their-desk systems makes that really hard.
1. install vmware server, configure a barebones virtual machine
2. configure local ssh to listen to an alternate port number.
3. configure port forwarding on your local machine to direct port 22 to the virtual machine.
4. give them access to the VM
Best of both worlds.
They think you've given them access, and you have...just not to the machine they think they're accessing.
If you decide to give them an account on the actual machine, configure an external location to backup your logfiles, even remote logging. When they attempt to do something bad on your machine (and they will) you'll have the proof you need to make someone regret their actions.
5. ???
6. Get fired.
Seriously, I think you forgot those steps. What you wrote sounds exactly like a handbook on how to get fired.
Why even bother setting up a server with all the excellent online calendar applications? For instance, many schools use Google apps for education or MS Live.
That aside, going rogue, not talking to IT, and making a custom solution just for your one area, is one of the things that makes working in IT so frustrating at times. Among the many, many problems that implementing your own solution can create, just think about one: what happens if you change jobs? I can personally attest to getting calls from random new department heads saying "Joe Smith (former department head) set up system xyz to do abc for us and now he's gone, I expect IT to now support system xyz".
This scenario is especially prevalent in academia. Academic freedom is important, but all too often it spills over into areas that it really doesn't belong.
The OP is a troll.
The user ID "jddorian" is a fictional character on the US TV program Scrubs.
No head of department at any hospital or university I have been associated with would have had the time in their career to be more than passingly conversant on computer IT issues, forget know about ports. Heads of departments get to those positions only because they do nothing else with their lives.
A head of department would know better than to set up something themselves. They wouldn't also have the time to do something like that. They would be familiar with the idea that the hospital IT infrastructure is far more highly managed than normal corporate IT structures.
And, unless this is a seriously podunk hospital, they likely already run Microsoft Exchange for email, and so have electronic calenders.
Troll. It's a troll.
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Stolen ATMs Recovered in Sioux Falls, But Which Ones?
Sioux Falls Police still don't know who stole automated teller machines from two businesses in recent days, but they have recovered two ATMs, although it's not known for sure if they are indeed the stolen machines from the most recent break-ins.
Captain Greg VandeKamp says an employee at Northview Campers, in the northwest part of the city, noticed on Wednesday that a trailer which had been left for repairs had been moved and then returned, but to a different place.
VandeKamp says the employee was moving the trailer to put it where it had been stolen and he noticed it was much heavier than it should have been. That's when he found two destroyed ATMs in the back.
VandeKamp says the trailer was obviously used in at least two ATM burglaries, but police don't know if the recovered machines were the ones stolen recently from Deuces Casino and The Other Place.
He says the contents of the ATMs had been removed, and police have taken custody of the machines.

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GRUNDY CENTER South Tama's girls basketball team hung tough for 32 minutes Tuesday night, but they weren't able to upset the North Iowa Cedar League West Division leader.
The Trojans battled up and down the court, playing a rough, physical brand of basketball against their opponents who were playing a similar style. However, the difference in the game was the ability of Grundy Center to make more shots in the first half and build an insurmountable lead.
South Tama never came within 11 points during the second half of the contest. Grundy Center (10-2) defeated the Trojans for the second time this season. Grundy Center, who is unbeaten in NICL West play, defeated South Tama (4-6) 71-57.
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South Tama senior Megan Wanatee, right, shoots a running jump shot in the third quarter of Tuesday's contest at Grundy Center. Wanatee scored 11 points for the Trojans, who were defeated for the second time this season by the Spartans. Grundy Center remained unbeaten in NICL action with its 71-57 victory over the Trojans.
"They fought hard and I'm proud of them," STC coach Marsha Keahna said. "Every time we play (Grundy Center), the girls want to win so badly and I want to win for them, too. We get so close and then we make those technical mistakes like turning the ball over or not hustling back fast enough on defense."
South Tama never led in the contest. Grundy Center started the game with a 4-0 lead before the two teams exchanged baskets. A Grundy Center three-pointer boosted the Spartans lead to four points and South Tama was never able to cut it any closer in the opening quarter.
STC came out and played scrappy in the second quarter. Junior Paige Van Dyk recorded two blocks on one possession early in the quarter. Following a GC basket, the Trojans turned the ball over twice. However, they responded with a layup from senior Megan Wanatee. Then GC hit a three-pointer, which was answered by a three from senior Kaleigh Sieck and another from Grundy Center, which increased the lead to 10 points.
The Trojans were able to make only two more field goals and one free throw during the final 4:30 of the quarter. Meanwhile, Grundy Center scored 11 points, including a 5-0 run before halftime. GC led 41-23 at the break.
"(Grundy Center) got a lead and then that gets in our head," Keahna said. "Then we have to play the head game. Kaleigh had it in her head tonight that she couldn't hit a shot. Once that happens, she won't shoot another one. Then we started driving the ball, because our shots aren't falling from the outside. Then we're in the land of the giants. The mental aspect of the game is always a challenge, but we have to fight it."
Grundy Center continued to maintain its lead in the second half. STC cut it to 15 points after a three-point play from Sieck twice in the third quarter. After the second time, the Spartans scored eight-straight points, before STC junior Samantha Holtz scored a layup to finish the quarter.
"We did do some good things," Keahna said. "We broke their press, got the ball down the floor and got a good look. Unfortunately, our good looks didn't fall and theirs did tonight."
Grundy Center opened the fourth quarter with a basket, which increased its lead to 23 points. Then the Trojans began clawing back and eventually cut the lead to 11 points near the end of the contest by outscoring GC 18-6 during a six-minute stretch.
South Tama started the rally with three-straight baskets, which came from senior Jade Rohach, Sieck and Wanatee. Following a GC free throw, Rohach scored a layup and hit a pair of foul shots, cutting the lead to 14 points.
More than a minute later, Holtz hit one free throw and another shot after grabbing an offensive rebound, slicing the lead to 13 points. Sieck stole a GC pass and was fouled on a layup 16 seconds after Holtz's baskets. Sieck hit both foul shots and the Trojans trailed 63-52 with 2:13 remaining in the game. Senior Shelby Bradley hit a three-pointer a minute later to cut the lead to 11 points again.
"We passed it, instead of trying to drive it everywhere," Keahna said. "We finally started moving without the ball and that's a big key for us. We can't stand in one spot and watch the ball. We have to move without the ball. We did some of that tonight and we started making shots. We need to get our shots from inside the paint. We don't always do that.
"I think we got fatigued in the end," she added. "Kudos to our bench for stepping up the way it did. Sam Holtz had a heck of a game out there playing tough. We just need everyone to play fired up all of the time. I think they realize that's the intensity we need to go out all of the time, not just when we're down 10, but from the word go."
Grundy Center didn't score field goal during the final 7:33 of the game. The Spartans only field goal of the fourth quarter came on its opening possession. Their final 11 points were all scored at the free throw stripe.
"We got called for a lot of ticky-tacky little fouls," Keahna said. "(Grundy Center) went to the line a lot, especially in the fourth quarter. We put them there too much tonight. I thought the officials did a nice job calling the game in the first half. It was even. We were each 1-of-4 from the free throw line. In the second half, it wasn't so even anymore."
STC will try to end its two-game losing streak Friday in Le Grand against East Marshall. The game will begin at 6:15 p.m. STC beat East Marshall 53-37 at home on Dec. 4.
"We got more things to work on Wednesday and Thursday in practice," Keahna said. "Hopefully we can go play well at East Marshall on Friday and get a win."


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Studying the Hauptrogenstein in NW-Switzerland Gonzalez identified three shallowing-upward successions within the Hauptrogenstein-Formation and the underlying Rothenfluh Beds (Blagdeni Beds in SW-Germany).
The Rothenfluh/Blagdeni Beds consist of marls, interbedded mud- to wackestones and limestone nodules. They can contain a quartz content of up to 25%. The finegrained limestone beds become more frequent towards the hanging-wall and increasingly more bioclastic with intercalations of thin beds of ooid grainstones. This tendency increases into the Lower Acuminata Beds (Pentacrinus beds in SW-Germany) and the Lower Oolitic Series. The development to a high-energy shallow-marine environment continues with the appearance of thick layers of oblique and cross-stratified ooidal grainstones. In the top the oncolite rich "Mumienbank" is capped by an ommission surface. The Upper Oolitic Series essential follows the same composition with the Homomya Marls at the base, oolitic grainstones of the Upper Hauptrogenstein s. str. and Movelier Beds at the top forming the transition to the third shallowing-up succession composed of marls at the base and Ferrigineus-Oolith at the top.
There is a trend of each sucession to become thinner with the Lower Oolitic Series the most massive and the iron-rich Ferrigineus-Oolith the thinnest (see Fig.). The water energy is increasing towards the top of each succession into a shoal or tidal-channel environment as supported by (bioclastic) oolitic grainstones.
You will see why this is important in the following parts of this mini-series...
- Ramon Gonzalez (1996): Response of shallow-marine carbonate facies to third-order and high-frequency sea-level fluctuations: Hauptrogenstein Formation, northern Switzerland, Sedimentary Geology, 102


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San Antonio man dead after trip to Canyon Lake
Updated 6:48 am, Thursday, July 3, 2014
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AUSTIN -- A 53-year-old San Antonio man died Tuesday after a family trip to Canyon Lake.
Canyon Lake Fire EMS Battalion Chief Danny Hemphill told the New Braunfels Herald-Zeitung that emergency officials were called to the scene around 2:35 p.m. to help a man outside of a boat who appeared to need assistance.
Officials performed emergency assistance, including CPR, before he was moved to Christus Santa Rosa Hospital in New Braunfels, where he was later pronounced dead, the Herald-Zeitung reported.
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2010 volleyball
Rosen named assistant coach at LeTourneau
Michele Rosen named graduate assistant at Letourneau for 2010-11
March 31, 2010
By: Erin Neal, sports information assistant
BLUFFTON, Ohio - Michele Rosen, a senior on Bluffton University's volleyball team, recently accepted a position as the new assistant volleyball coach at LeTourneau University in Longview, Texas. Rosen, who will graduate with her undergraduate degree in May, said that the LeTournea atmosphere "reminds me a lot of Bluffton, which definitely made it appeal even more to me because I've had such a positive experience at Bluffton." Rosen also went on to note, "The staff there has provided me with a really amazing opportunity to further my education and gain great coaching experience, and I'm so grateful for that."


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YORK, Pa. – The York College women's soccer team hosted the Elizabethtown in a non-conference tilt that ended in a 2-0 victory for the Blue Jays. The Spartans fell to 1-5 overall while the Blue Jays advanced to 4-1-1 overall.
The Elizabethtown offense proved dangerous throughout the first half. The Blue Jays pelted the Spartan net by taking 11 shots with three making their way to Spartan goalkeeper, Sarah Spanarkel. Bent but not broken, the Spartan defense held and the game went into half time tied at 0-0.
The Blue Jays came into the second half eager to find the back of the Spartan net, and it did not take long. Laura Wingert centered a corner kick to teammate Ashley Landis who was able to slip a shot into the Spartan net to give the Blue Jays' a 1-0 lead in the 47th minute.
The Spartans looked for the equalizer, as they recorded four shots in the second half, however none were on goal. Defensively, they also took a much more aggressive stand, keeping the Blue Jays to only able to send seven attempts toward Spanarkel.
In the 87th minute, the Blue Jays were able to get Taylor Kreider the ball as she streamed up the left side of the field. She centered the ball to teammate Alyssa Koplin who put the ball into the back of the net, giving the Blue Jays a 2-0 lead.
The game ended with the Blue Jays out shooting the Spartans 18-4 with a 5-0 lead in shots on goal. Spanarkel came up with three saves for the Spartans while Jess Manchak captured the shutout for the Blue Jays.
The Spartans return to action this Wednesday, September 21, as they travel to Messiah to take on the Falcons in a non-conference tilt. Game time from Grantham, Pa. is slated for 7:00 pm.
Dani Bock photo courtesy of Theresa Dark - York College (Pa.) athletic communications student-photographer
Game recap written by Alexis Pierce - York College (Pa.) athletic communications practicum student


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NEW YORK — Stock indexes fluctuated in midday trading today as investors tried to predict the Fed's next move.
The Dow Jones industrial average rose 32 points to 15,366 shortly before noon.
The Standard & Poor's 500 index edged up one point to 1,668. The Nasdaq composite rose three points to 3,499.
"There's no compelling reason for the market to go one way or another today," said Michael Binger, senior portfolio manager at Gradient Investments in Minneapolis. "And I think a lot of people are sitting on their hands waiting to see what the Fed says tomorrow."
On Wednesday, the Federal Reserve will release minutes from its most recent meeting and Chairman Ben Bernanke will go before Congress to discuss the outlook for the U.S. economy.
Investors are looking for any hints that the Fed will ease back on its multibillion dollar bond-buying program, which has buoyed all major indexes this year.
J.P. Morgan Chase & Co. rose 2 percent in midday trading. Shareholders of the country's biggest bank voted to allow CEO and Chairman Jamie Dimon to keep both roles, beating back a referendum to split those positions. The bank's stock gained 90 cents to $53.18.
Home Depot surged 2 percent, the best gain among the 30 stocks in the Dow. The retailer reported an 18 percent increase in income for its first quarter as the housing market continued to recover. Home Depot rose $1.51 to $78.27.
It's been a healthy quarter for many of the biggest companies with home prices rising and the job market appearing to stabilize.
Seven of every 10 in the S&P 500 have trumped Wall Street expectations, according to S&P Capital IQ. Earnings have climbed 5 percent over the year before.
In the market for U.S. government bonds, the yield on the 10-year Treasury note slipped to 1.95 percent from 1.96 percent late Monday.
In commodities trading, the price of gold fell $22.70 to $1,361.30. Gold has slumped 19 percent this year. Tame inflation, a stronger dollar and a surging stock market have made gold less appealing as an alternative investment.
Among other companies in the news:
— Best Buy dropped 4 percent, after reporting a quarterly loss and sales that fell short of expectations. Its stock lost $1.16 to $25.65.
— TiVo gained 3 percent, or 44 cents, to $13.10. The digital video recording company narrowed its quarterly loss with the help of higher sales from more subscribers.


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Kevin-Prince Boateng has tipped AC Milan team-mate Stephan El Shaarawy to have a bright future ahead of him in the game.
The Italy international has been one of the revelations of the 2012-13 campaign so far, netting 16 goals in 27 Serie A appearances, and his colleague has little doubt that there is more to come.
"El Shaarawy has huge potential. He's a very cheeky player, and I like those types of players. Those who don't care if they play against Barcelona or Cagliari," he told reporters.
The former Ghana international then went on to reflect on his behaviour in the past and admitted that he has not always made the right decisions.
"When I was younger, I did a lot of things I shouldn't have done. Then you get dumped into a new life where you earn a lot of money and play in front of a crowd of 80,000. That isn't easy.
"You should always try to remain grounded and work hard constantly. That's the most important thing."


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Before graduation, Selected Hilarity made a tape and sent it out to several agents. After several offers of representation, the group went with DCA Productions out of New York city. With their agent's help, Selected Hilarity broke into the college market and was an immediate hit with its offbeat, high-energy style. At their very first college market showcase in Boston, they booked well over 100 shows in one day, setting a record that will likely never be broken. They started touring regularly at colleges around the country and finally quit their day jobs.
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TAMPA, Fla. (AP) — Hillsborough County deputies have arrested the parents of a 23-month-old boy left in an SUV for eight hours.
A news release says 27-year-old Alexander Rosario and 26-year-old Douceaymee Lopez-Alvarez both face charges of aggravated child neglect.
Officials say that on April 16, the couple left their toddler in their SUV in the front of their Tampa apartment for about eight hours.
According to deputies last month, the family — which also includes three young daughters — came home about 4 a.m. from visiting relatives. The parents took their three daughters inside.
Rosario thought Lopez-Alvarez brought their son in, too. Lopez-Alvarez thought Rosario had. But the boy remained outside.
The toddler was hospitalized, but released days later.
Deputies say the toddler and his sisters are now in the state custody.
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Sebastian Kienle Wins European Championships
With big points available for the Kona Ranking and the European Title attracted a world-class field in Frankfurt including current World Champion Luc van Lierde, Olympic Champion Jan Frodeno, former European Champion Andreas Raelert and many others. Despite his win at Challenge Kraichgau some weeks ago, Sebastian Kienle knew that a perfect race from his side was required in order to beat the illustrious starting field.
Solid Swim
It was mainly the talented swimmers that worried Kienle before the race. "After the first swim lap, I heard that I had a deficit of 3 minutes on the leaders. I was pretty shocked and expected that I would be almost 6 minutes back after the swim," said Kienle after the race. However, he managed to keep the gap between him and the fastest swimmers at 3min 30sec after the 3.8k swim in the Langener Waldsee.
Lightning Fast Bike Split
On the bike the German immediately went to work and chased down the athletes in front of him. Once at the front of the race, Kienle waited for a steep hill to attack and from there continuously gained time on his competitors. With a sizzling fast bike split time of 4:12:14 Kienle broke the existing course record by over 8 minutes. Van Lierdes bike time was the second fastest of the day but almost 10 minutes slower than Kienle's time. "The new bike is just damn fast," Kienle concluded after the race. "I can't say more about it today but in 10 days we'll let media and fans know what makes this bike the fastest one out there!"
A Marathon to be Proud of
During the closing marathon, Kienle kept the fastest runners at bay. Thanks to a fast 2:49:35 run split Kienle managed to win the race in less than 8 hours and to break the existing record. "I just saw my run split time and I'm very proud of the performance I showed on the closing 42 kilometers today," Kienle stated post-race. "I knew that I had the ability to run that fast off the bike but I was never able to actually prove it," summed up a visibly happy Kienle.


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NORTH DARTMOUTH, Mass.—For the third week in a row Nuha Muntasser (Braintree, Mass.) laid claim to being the top rookie in the Little East Conference, as the league office honored Muntasser as the Little East Rookie of the Week Monday afternoon.
Muntassser finished 2-0 on the week to help UMass Boston earn a spot in the Little East Conference Tournament for the first time since 2011. The freshman from Braintree, Mass. clinched UMB's playoff spot Saturday with her win at number one singles, to give UMass Boston their first-ever win over Plymouth State University.
She wrapped up the regular-season with a six-game winning streak at number two doubles and earned victories in 10 of her 11 final matches to wrap up the season.
Muntasser finishes the regular-season with a Little East high four Rookie of the Week awards and the eighth-most wins in a single-season in UMB history (16).
UMass Boston will travel to UMass Dartmouth Tuesday afternoon at 3 p.m. for the Little East Quarterfinals.


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I've never had to write one of these columns. At my last newspaper, I was released unceremoniously, the victim of a bad newspaper economy and — in my humble opinion — even worse decision-making.
But here it is. Farewell, Okanogan County.
It's been fun — at times — but living in Omak never felt like home.
Pecking away at this column will be the final thing I do as managing editor of The Chronicle.
It's certainly been a learning experience, there's no doubt about that. Think about it — where else can a journalist cover city council meetings one evening and then strap on ice cleats for a heated round of outhousing races just a couple days later?
Where else can you find a sporting event as intense as the World-Famous Suicide Race one month and then something as low-brow (pun somewhat intended) as the weiner dog races at the Okanogan County Fairgrounds the next?
Festivals around this area are often the same way, ranging from the typical to the abnormal. In a rural area, people need to come up with their own types of fun. Most festivals in the region tend to fall in the rather tame category.
But then there are the unusual Human-Fairy Congress, the massive Okanogan Family Faire and the fun-loving, irreverent events in Conconully.
So many events fit into the category "Only in Okanogan County."
I'm not sure where I'm going to end up. But I'll never forget this place.
Garrett Rudolph is the managing editor of The Chronicle. He can be reached at 509-826-1110 or via email at email@example.com.
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GUANAJUATO, Mexico – Former Duke All-America diver Abby Johnston returned to international competition for the first time since capturing a silver medal in 3-meter synchronized diving at the 2012 London Olympics, taking bronze in the same event Sunday at the FINA Mexico Grand Prix.
The former Blue Devil paired with Laura Ryan to post a score of 284.70, tying with Australia's Anna Gelai and Esther Qin for third place. Paola Espinosa and Dolores Hernandez of Mexico won the gold with an award of 295.20 points.
Johnston and Ryan won the women's 3-meter synchronized competition in their debut as a tandem Apr. 11 at the USA Diving World Cup Synchronized Diving Trails, qualifying the pair to the FINA Diving World Cup July 15-20 in Shanghai.


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WOODSTOCK – A former Holiday Hills police officer convicted of intimidating a woman who he pulled over for speeding into having sex is back in McHenry County Circuit Court.
This time, Troy G. Hetz is accused of bending a female family member's wrist until he caused injury.
The 40-year-old Deerfield man posted 10 percent of a $1,500 bail Friday. He was charged with domestic battery in connection with an incident that happened Sunday in McHenry.
His next court date is July 14.
Hetz' attorney, Margi Worth, did not immediately return a call for comment Friday afternoon.
The charge comes about four years after he was sentenced to 180 days in jail for intimidation and official misconduct.
In that case, prosecutors said Hetz pulled over a female driver for speeding in December 1999, according to court records. He informed her that her license was suspended and asked her to drive to a more secluded area, where they had sex on the hood of his squad car.
Hetz said he gave the woman a verbal warning for the alleged traffic offenses and logged the time spent on the sexual encounter as personal time. He argued, unsuccessfully, that he was not on duty during the sexual encounter and was not abusing his position.
A judge disagreed and found him guilty at the end of a bench trial July 1, 2001. He appealed the case but was sentenced to jail time in February 2004.
Before the bench trial, prosecutors said Hetz was asked to leave a job as a Hainesville police officer after another female motorist said that he made sexual advances during a traffic stop in 1996, according to court records.


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Coulee Cops
Reports compiled from police files
Grand Coulee Police
4/9 - Police had a report of a woman spraying weeds along the road on Jackson, Goodfellow and Stevens streets in Electric City. Police looked for her but couldn't her.
- Police responded to a call from Coulee Medical Center that there was a disturbance. The officer learned that a woman was receiving information on pain management and her boyfriend took exception to something and started yelling. Police couldn't find him.
- A semi-truck jackknifed and nearly ran into Jack's service building at Four Corners. Police blocked traffic while the driver got the truck straightened out.
4/10 - A woman reported that her purse had been taken out of a grocery cart while she was loading groceries into her vehicle in the Safeway parking lot. The store's video camera showed a person taking the purse and police are looking for the suspect.
4/12 - A woman allegedly entered a residence on Hill Avenue and struck a former boyfriend in the neck. She fled before police arrived and they are currently looking for her. The man agreed to have a protection notice against the woman.
- Coulee Medical Center advised police that a woman dressed in white had yelled that she was possessed with demons and left the area. Police found her on Spokane Avenue, where she told police that demons were telling her to hurt herself. She was taken to Coulee Medical Center for a blood draw and Grant County Mental Health was notified.
- A Maine driver received a citation for driving under the influence after being stopped for faulty tail lights, then failing field tests. The driver's car was towed and the driver was given a ride to a motel.
4/13 - A young man was cited for taking a vehicle without permission, driving without a license and making false statements to an officer after he was seen driving in a reckless manner near Midway Avenue.
- A man on Goodfellow Avenue in Electric City told police that someone had taken his kayak. He said the value was around $700.
- Police went to Banks Avenue on a report of dogs being loose. The officer saw that a loose board had allowed the dogs to get out. He fixed the fence by putting a pallet against the board.
4/14 - A Nespelem woman was stopped because the tabs on her vehicle had expired nearly a year ago. She was cited for that and for not having insurance.
- A woman on King Street reported a woman was in violation of a protection order. The order stated that the woman was to come no closer than 100 yards to the residence. Police forwarded the report to the prosecutor's office for possible action.
4/15 - Police went to a Hill Avenue apartment where there was a possible overdose. Police found a woman who had been drinking and had also taken a number of prescription pills. An ambulance took her to Coulee Medical Center.
Coulee Dam
4/8 - Police checked on two boys walking around with flashlights, who told the officer they were looking for nightcrawlers because they planned to go fishing the next day. On checking on the boys, the officer learned that one was wanted on a warrant. He was arrested and taken to Okanogan for booking.
- A man on Tulip Street reported that his vehicle was stolen. Later, when police checked with him, he said he had located his vehicle.
- Police noted a car at Riley Point that was disabled. The officer was told that it had slipped a belt and that someone was enroute to fix it. But one person there was wanted on an arrest warrant and was taken to the county jail.
4/9 - An Ephrata woman who had crossed the fog line was driving slow near the overlook area just above Grand Coulee Dam and told the officer that she had been talking with her daughter and slipped over the fog line. She said she was driving slow because she didn't know the speed limit.
4/11 - A man reported that he saw some kids playing basketball at a vacant house and one of the boys had thrown the ball and broke a window. Police checked to see if they could talk with the kids involved and left word for the mother of one of the boys to call and then the officer tried to contact the owner of the vacant house.
4/13 - Plant Protection called police to say that two men were "acting weird" and looking under bushes and pointing. Police told the men that the "heavily armed security" was nervous at what they were doing. They explained that they were looking under bushes to see if there was any wildlife there.


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UT System Awards Grants for Innovation and Entrepreneurship
AUSTIN – The University of Texas System awarded two $750,000 Novel Educational Programs in Innovation and Entrepreneurship grants to fund projects and programs that accelerate entrepreneurship and innovation. These two grants will fund novel programs that will train current faculty members and students in entrepreneurship, innovation and commercialization.
Allan Brasier, director of the Institute for Translational Sciences at The University of Texas Medical Branch, David McPherson, director of the Center for Clinical and Translational Sciences at The University of Texas Health Science Center at Houston and Stanley Watowich, associate professor in the Department of Biochemistry and Molecular Genetics at The University of Texas Medical Branch received a grant for their proposal, "Texas CTSA Collaborative Innovation & Entrepreneurial Program."
Cory Hallam, director of the Center for Innovation and Technology Entrepreneurship at The University of Texas at San Antonio and Oliver Wenker, director of the Office of Technology Discovery at The University of Texas MD Anderson Cancer Center received a grant for their proposal, "The UT TRANSFORM Program."
"The UT System and the Board of Regents recognize the high importance of training and supporting our faculty and students in entrepreneurism, in creating novel research enterprises and in forming working collaborations with industry. The grant candidates were truly amazing in quality, originality and collaboration and the two awardees will undoubtedly be successful and have high impact across UT institutions," said Patricia Hurn, Associate Vice Chancellor for Health Science Research at The University of Texas System.
American universities have been the heart of innovation throughout history and today's major discoveries are not just benefiting society, they are also generating significant dollars for the institutions. The call for research universities to serve as entrepreneurial centers that drive research breakthroughs and discover solutions to large-scale scientific and social problems led The University of Texas System Board of Regents in 2007 to authorize $5 million for the Graduate Program Initiative, a competitive grant program to support innovations in the education of nonprofessional graduate students at UT System academic and health institutions. Today, just over $1.5 million remains and was transferred to fund grants for the Novel Educational Programs in Innovation and Entrepreneurship.
About The University of Texas System
Educating students, providing care for patients, conducting groundbreaking research and serving the needs of Texans and the nation for more than 130 years, the University of Texas System is one of the largest public university systems in the United States, with nine academic universities and six health science centers. Preliminary student enrollment exceeded 215,000 in the 2011 academic year. The UT System confers more than one-third of the state's undergraduate degrees and educates nearly three-fourths of the state's health care professionals annually. The UT System has an annual operating budget of $13.1 billion (FY 2012) including $2.3 billion in sponsored programs funded by federal, state, local and private sources. With roughly 87,000 employees, the UT System is one of the largest employers in the state.


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"..Authentic in All Caps is a master work, a story about woman and sidekick facing ridiculous obstacles to being herself. The story is complex and yet playful. In this project, as she explains, Christy is harnessing the rich narration that audio drama creates, her deep understanding of an ARG aesthetic combined with a wildly imaginative carnivalesque inversion of the cultural hierarchies. Here is a satirical world where artists are assassins and quantum physicists run the underworld. A world I'd love to romp in.
When I asked Christy about this recently, she said,
Christy:Remember when we started WRT?! Good times. :) Back then I was very keen on the use of chatbots in storytelling (and still am). But I was really excited by IF and all the possibilities there. I also got into alternate reality games, created a few of those and worked on big branded entertainment projects. I've also been lucky to have worked as a writing and design consultant on digital extensions to theatre, film, and gaming projects. So over the years I've been through the process of having huge external constraints being put on ideas, as well as the constraints of limited budgets and constraints I put on myself to facilitate the creative process.
Christy:So now I'm putting more time and effort on playing with digital technologies for my own wacky stories and ideas. I recently launched a playful story for the phone at a pervasive gaming festival in Melbourne (and this will be released worldwide soon). But the big personal project I'm working on is a web audio adventure. The idea for this unusual storytelling approach came about from my work on alternate reality games, and my love of audio, comedy, and digital technology. I'm combining radio drama with web navigation and online storytelling to create a web audio adventure. It hasn't been done before and so I've spent the past year refining experience design issues and of course honing the script...."
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Declaration Would Bring Assistance to Rhode Island
FEMA Assessment Teams Have Done "2 Weeks of Work in 2 Days"
Providence, RI - Flanked by Lt. Governor Roberts, the state's Congressional delegation, Cabinet directors, the heads of the Rhode Island National Guard and Rhode Island State Police, the Rhode Island President of National Grid, and FEMA Federal Coordinating Officer Nick Russo, Governor Lincoln Chafee announced this afternoon that he has formally signed a request for President Barack Obama to declare a major disaster for the State of Rhode Island.
"I request that you declare a major disaster for the State of Rhode Island as a result of Hurricane Sandy," Governor Chafee wrote to President Obama. "This catastrophic event has created widespread devastation and has affected approximately 300,000 residents across the State."
"I have determined that this incident is of such severity and magnitude that effective response is beyond the capabilities of the State and the affected local governments, and that federal assistance under the Stafford Act is necessary to supplement the efforts and available resources of state and local governments, disaster relief organizations, and compensation by insurance for disaster-related damage," Governor Chafee continued.
The Governor specifically requested Public Assistance for Bristol, Newport, and Washington Counties, and requested the Hazard Mitigation Grant Program statewide. The request will be amended – including the modification of assistance levels and the possible inclusion of Individual Assistance – as the damage assessment process continues and more information is obtained.


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If you were forming a league and were interested in taking some departures from classic 5x5 roto with categories that best represent player performance, what categories would you use? What categories are too redundant to use together, in your opinion?
I'm in that situation and later this week the league is going to discuss this issue. Certainly WAR is one of the best representative categories, but it's a bit too complicated for our league. We are more simple folk.
Hitting appears to be the easiest: HR, RBI, R, SB, OBP (or OPS - are they mutually excluive?)
But with pitching... it's tougher. We like QS, ERA, WHIP, and K's. Are K's and K/9 mutually exclusive? If so, what could be the 5th category? What is your opinion of saves and holds as it pertains to player performance?
If it's going to be a deep 15-team mixed league, how important is it that a category is included that values relievers in some way? I'm leaning toward it not being important at all.
Thanks for your input!