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Hello Gents,
I've just read Le Mouchoir de Monsieur's review of Blenheim Bouquet by Penhaligon's.
Heartbreaking and beautiful all at the same time.
If you haven't read it I urge you to.
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Hello Gents,
I've just read Le Mouchoir de Monsieur's review of Blenheim Bouquet by Penhaligon's.
Heartbreaking and beautiful all at the same time.
If you haven't read it I urge you to.
Beautifully written and expressed, very moving.
Very nice.
Blenheim Bouquet is a scent with great possibilities of exploring, definitely calling for fitting reviews
My goodness: Thanks very much to all of you for having the patience to endure my often over-wrought reviews! I had no idea there was a thread ignited by Blenheim Bouquet. I do greatly enjoy writing these reviews, though as I mentioned to one of my BN friends, it takes a kind of "spasm" for me to actually write one, or a good one as it were. I'm not so certain I'm equipped to make judgements on ingredients--emotions, on the other hand, I read fluently. It's fascinating to me that certain people become so preoccupied with what's in a composition....if it's synthetic, natural, expensive, high quality etc: I think, a perfume should before all else be in tune with your inner self, regardless of what it's made of. Koala501 my top hat off to you! leMDM
Very touching indeed, thanks for the heads up.
Hear, hear!
I just noticed that this thread appears in the "Male Fragrance" discussion group of threads. I had no idea there was such a thing. Below I have tried to piece together bits of a private conversation I had on BN with a young man who, having read one of my own threads, both of which are in "General Fragrance," contacted me all contrite and perplexed that he felt compelled to wear "Arpege," and wondered if this was "OK," since "Arpege" is a scent originally designed for women. Let's see if it works. (This young man was clearly shaken by some observation that Luca Turin had made that "Arpege" was feminine or womanly in some way: Since this is my first foray into "Male Fragrance" discussion groups, this content contains opinions that I would hope all of we male fragrance fanciers out there epouse)
Luca Turin's opinion should not count for you, for me, or for anyone. The French have a saying that I find quite useful which runs thus: "les gouts et les couleurs ne se discutent pas" translating: "Tastes and Colours should never be discussed" I am a true believer in this and, I suspect, that is why my reviews are more focused on emotion and less on "wear it/don't wear it" (with the exception of a few I suppose, like that nasty "Oxford& Cambridge" which is plainly offensive--even for me, a lavender lover) I think, with regards to your choice to wear "Arpege," that this is entirely dependent on what kind of man you are, and how "Arpege" translates that inner spirit: At this point in history it matters little whether the comp was designed for a man or a woman, only "Does the comp translate the human," which, in this instance, is a question only you can answer. It is a fact that most fragrances from the 20's smell more like men's fragrances of today, a perfect example being "vol de nuit," but there are so many: Arpege is one of them. As far as "being" masculine or feminine, it need not be either if you chose to wear it, It simply must somehow sublimate who you are as an human. I, for instance, wear "Jicky" because I feel it speaks volumes about my personality. I am very tall, taller than most everyone, quite thin, and I wear strange clothes, mostly because I have to have all of my clothes custom made, which allows me a great amount of freedom to do what others wouldn't. I also have an horror of hairdressers so I wear my hear quite long. I have a phobia of blades, so I don't shave, leaving me with a full beard and mustache. People stare at me in the street and everywhere I go I cause a kind of commotion. In spite of this, I have been blessed with an excellent amount of success in my life. There is no "label" that I can accept per my "genre," to the great frustration of all and sundry: Gay, Straight, Bi, Eccentric, Individualist, Rebel, Hippie, Right wing/Left wing: None of these fit me, just as clothes hanging in a store wont fit me, and this is clear to those who know me well. Jicky, to me, "translates" all of this: It is the very essence of ambiguity and I have never found another perfume that spells out all of the complexities of my existence, orchestrated of course by God and an human mind more perfectly. En Avion, for instance: By all means, is a stunning thing--but you see I can not wear such a beautiful, refined and elegant perfume--because, somehow, it is too beautiful...too remarkable...and, as I have explained, I have to be careful: Already, I am a kind of walking circus act: Wearing such a spectacular perfume would become farcical on me. Now, you, I challenge you to apply this kind of self analysis to yourself. If you are earnest in your approach to it, you will have your answer. The fact that "Arpege" was created for women should not factor into your internal discussion. In the matter of fragrant choices, nobody's opinion counts more than your own.
Here, though, I must clarify: I think, note, "I think," meaning I can't profess to know, but it would seem to me that if a scent projects what the wearer is trying to convey, then there is a potential for mismatch. Example: Were i to wear a scent that would suggest what it is I would "try" to be, if I tried, it would be something very shy and tame and barely there at all: I have a fondness for Canoe, for example, and I like Old Spice. I wish that somehow I could be "the Old Spice Guy" because he is everything I am not, yet secretly, I'm sure I would enjoy being. Even "Eau du Coq," or "Agua Lavanda," both very discrete and somewhat bland, even these, which i wear (both make excellent mosquito repellent) are a kind of disguise for me: I will wear them when I try to go unnoticed, which is the effect I covet when I have the energy to "try." Unfortunately, though, I rarely have this energy--and so I wear Jicky because I know for a fact that it "smells like me" and, according to all and sundry, "it smells like me." It's *always* smelled like me, since I was a young lad--which was quite awhile ago--and it also "has my name on it." (too intricate of a plot to reveal here) but that is how i found it in the first instance: Quite a coincidence. The two fragrances I have worn, counting "Mouchoir de Monsieur" as a kind of "Winter Jicky," (it was made out of Jicky) are two that sort of just fell upon me: Jicky and English Fern. Both, to me, "translate" all of the bits and pieces of what God gave me--interestingly, both are ferns, both are somewhat of the same era: I wore English Fern because that's what my mother gave me--I wore "Pour un Homme" (Caron) when I wanted to be a rebel and grow up and seduce girls: I found it so sophisticated and worldly--and then I wore "Jicky" because I saw it in the window at Guerlain and thought: "How amusing! that perfume has my name on it! I must go and smell it"--and since that day I have been loyal to it: The second I smelled it, I knew. The main element here is this: Neither you, nor your perfume, should "try" to convey anything. The trick is to find the scent that fits naturally, with no effort, and little fanfare, and then you will have your signature.
Hopefully, not too much information. Hopefully, food for thought. leMDM
I adore Mouchoir's review of Jicky. Poetic and thoughtful, with a dash of history thrown in.
Brilliant Le Mouchoir, You've got a real fan here!
Another fan of Le Mouchoir's reviews. Go and read the others, they are equally beautiful.
Keep them coming, Monsieur!
Thank you to all. I am so very appreciative. On Luca Turin: We all have our opinions, and we all have our tastes. This said, I personally am no fan of either Luca Turin, whom I have met, and even less of a fan of Chandler Burr, though him I have not met. If I misquoted Mr. Turin, I apologize for the "misinformation." I suspect the young man to whom I allude above must have made precisely that observation of his, that men should try Arpege, and not the other way around, as I recount above. To me, both pronouncements are one and the same coming from Mr. Turin. I'm well aware that many of you swear by any pronouncement that Luca Turin makes. I have read some of his writings, and I have had a conversation with him. Personally, I find this "cult" following he has to be a bit of a farce: He has a kind of arrogance, a way about his opinions that leaves no room for discussion, and, I'm afraid that my specific read on that is that I find it quite rude on any account, regardless of subject matter. It is a medically proven fact that every single one of our noses is different, and no body chemistry will render the same symphony of comp notes in precisely the same order, as even our food intake will effect this progression. Luca Turin obviously knows more than most about fragrance, but nobody in the world has the right to dismiss definitively one comp verses another simply because of credentials. Fragrance is a matter of taste--and each of us has the right to our own: Following dictates by the likes of Luca Turin is simply unfortunate. He could say that "X" comp is rubbish, and "Y" comp is superb--but, honestly, who cares what he says? There is no "right" or "wrong" in this realm: Many have accused me of issuing the same kind of dictates, which I assure all of you I would be incapable of doing: Granted, I personally found "Oxford&Cambridge" to be vile--interestingly, Tom Ford's new "Lavender Palm" is a point for point carbon copy of it. I personally found Houbigant's re-issue of "Fougere Royale" to be an absolute disaster: These are only my opinions. Many of you will say "Well, who cares about your opinions?" My answer to that would be: "Me. I care about them. I encourage all of you to develop your own opinions. If they differ from mine, that's just grand." Luca Turin never implies that--Luca Turin suggests in his writings and discussions that his is the last word on any comp. How can any of us be naive enough to believe him? There is one man, though, who, in my estimation, has a far better grasp on the subject than Luca Turin ever could: He also has something in spades that would appear to be missing in the vocabulary of Mr. Turin, and that is "Good Manners." That man, is Mr. Roja Dove. If any of you ever have the opportunity to listen to this man speak of perfumes, do anything you can to make that happen: I have never heard anyone speak with such poise and elegance as he on the subject. His discussions are never "lectures." They are poetry, and in the realm of fragrance, are we not more in the realm of romance than academia?
Definitely a beautiful review. I like all of MdM's reviews.
Scent met mr. Roja Dove.
Hopefully he'll say something about the encounter.
On Mr. Roja Dove: There was a time, perhaps well over five years ago, when Mr. Roja Dove was a kind of attache to the house of Guerlain. I can't recall what his title there was, though he at one point happened to give a discussion in a private club of which I am a member: We, the attendees, were all seated at tables in the main dining room of the club, and being served breakfast. It was a morning engagement. On each of our place settings, there was a blue box with a satin ribbon around it: It looked as if we each were being presented a wrist watch. Inside, was a crystal dauber, and a small microfiber draw string pouch. Many of us opened the box upon arrival, and a very small percentage of us knew exactly what it was, nor what we were meant to do with it. When the main breakfast course was finally lain before us, after coffee and orange juice, a petite French lady walked up to the dais before us, tapped on the microphone, and spoke of Mr. Dove, who would shortly make his appearance. "Dove" is pronounced "DOHV," as is the past tense of "to dive," and not as "dove" the bird. After this short introduction, an unassuming looking gentleman stepped up to the dais and tapped on the microphone. After wishing all of us "Good Morning," he tapped on it again and asked if we were all sure that he should use this contraption as he was convinced we'd all be quite sick of hearing his voice within minutes, and he would be happy to dispense with it. We in attendance all laughed and he replied: "No, very seriously. All of you will be asleep so much faster if I could just unplug it." Thus, it began. Roja Dove speaks in the most impeccably tuned and perfectly wrought English, with a velvety voice, and a slow, meaningful cadence. He began his discussion by telling the fabled story of the house of Guerlain from its inception as a chemists shop, all the way through to the present day. Certain periods he punctuated with scents, which he would soak on mouillettes that young attendants would pass among us--and he would describe why it was that, for instance, "Apres l'Ondee" breathed an aura of solitude and melancholy, or how precisely "Chamade" reflected the violent student uprisings that had built up to a crescendo in May of 1968. I remember specifically how he explained the word "Chamade," which is a kind of double-entendre in French, used to describe the startled heart of one enraptured by passion and also the drumroll that precedes a public execution. Holding the bottle to illustrate what looked to all of us to be a spade, he grasped it by its stopper and held it upside down, saying, "and here, you see, is that heart: Presented to you all, on a stick, like a popsicle, that you may perhaps wish to lick." Everything he said had a kind of poetry to it. Nothing at all sounded trite as he put it. He spoke slowly, and punctuated his words with very earnest movements of his eyes, which are quite large and expressive. At the end of his discussion, he explained to us that each of us were now equipped with a wand, and this wand, the crystal dauber, could produce magic in our lives, if only we would use it properly: He explained that, in possession of a stoppered bottle of perfume, we were never to use the stopper to apply the perfume, but that we should dip the wand into the juice, applying it not behind our ears, but at what he called "the birth" of the neck, and that it would have to be cleaned each time before dipping it back into the bottle. He illustrated this with an opened bottle of "Vol de Nuit," which he applied on the neck of one of the young ladies assisting him. When he finally finished his discussion, there was a "Question and Answer" segment. Nobody seemed to raise their hand, so I began: "Mr. Dove. Is it true that "Shalimar" was created by dumping synthetic vanilla into "Jicky?" (Yes) Mr. Dove. Was there really a young English rose called "Jicky?" (No) Mr. Dove.....and on it went--I just kept them coming. I'm quite shameless when it comes to this sort of thing, especially in a room full of dumb men who could not find a single question to ask. Finally, Mr. Dove stopped the show by announcing to all in attendance that the discussion was over, and that "You, Sir, are invited to continue your queries in private." (meaning me) Most everyone made a bee line to the door, some leaving their blue boxes on the table: I snagged and pocketed my neighbour's, so I have two. I ran straight up to him, and continued my personal interview, which lingered on for quite some time: Everything he said was enchanting, all of his movements were elfin and other-worldly. I remember he had bushy eyebrows and hairy wrists. Mostly, I remember that this man had a true understanding of the emotions and the passions that went into the perfumer's art: When he would hand you a mouillette, he himself would also smell it, and in his eyes you could see that he was truly experiencing the magic held captive in each crystal bottle. There was a quiet, humble quality about him, a kind of delicacy in all of his gestures. A true Gentleman of the highest order. When I walked away from our private chat, which must have lasted over an hour because the dining room of the club was completely cleaned and deserted by the time we left, I felt as if I had spoken to a kind of wizard...and to this day, I cherish, and use daily the "wand" he gave me--and secretly keep the second one I shamelessly stole in case it ever breaks......
I wish I could once be part of such an experience, le MdM! Wonderful story! Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for sharing your experience! Roja sure is a fascinating person ;)
I'm so happy to be able to stop in now and again to Basenotes, especially when I see posts from one of my very favorite posters, le Mouchoir de Monsieur!
I think most people on Basenotes form their own opinions. I have heard Roja Dove speak. I like what he has to say, but it's largely pretentious, and I prefer to read Luca Turin for a variety of reasons, not just for his perceptions and descriptions of fragrances. :-)
Everyone just kept staring at me, saying nothing, until finally someone said: "And?" to which I replied: "Tom Ford." I could tell that the tone in my voice was enough for all other fourteen board members to understand my implication, even though I'm certain more than half of them had no idea who Tom Ford is. The point being: As my mother would say: "A chacun son mauvais gout" -- a saying I adore. Direct translation: "To each his own bad taste."
someone looked my way and said: "You've been awfully quiet. We haven't heard one word out of you." My response: "I've nothing to say, really." One member, who always comments on my suits, chimed in: "What did you think of his suit?" Everybody looked eagerly at me as I inhaled to respond, simultaneously filling out my vote card, all clearly anticipated a long involved analytical diatribe. I gave a four word retort: "It was Tom Ford." Then, I checked "Negative" before inserting the card into its' envelope, sealing it, and standing up to insert it into the wood box.
Everyone just kept staring at me, saying nothing, until finally someone said: "And?" to which I replied: "Tom Ford." I could tell that the tone in my voice was enough for all other fourteen board members to understand my implication, even though I'm certain more than half of them had no idea who Tom Ford is. The point being: As my mother would say: "A chacun son mauvais gout" -- a saying I adore. Direct translation: "To each his own bad taste."
That made me laugh!!!! Made my day :)
On the matter of pretentiousness, I think there may be an error. I wouldn't call a peacock pretentious, but I would a human. From what I've seen I think Roja Dove is sincerely what he seems to be. While Turin doesn't seem so, I'm not sure if it's just his act -if he is acting- making itself visible.
On the matter of our Mouchoir de Monsieur for whom I use the adjective "our" with haste and joy, I also like his style a lot. He is so different from me that it's fascinating and I find no pretentiousness in him either. Surely one of the things most of us here have in common, is our love for diversity. He provides that to me to the fullest. It's even apparent to me now that while I am quick to refer to him as our own, I am still talking about him in a more distant manner. Probably also because of how alien he is to me. An exotic specimen who is also gifted with one of the things I'm most jealous of. An effortless quality in written and very likely spoken word.
As a final digression, how can one not like internet?
A great signature Mouchoir.
To be an eternal student is a wonderful thing indeed in my book. We are all richer here for everyone's input.
Bien faire et laisser dire!!!!
Inspired I have added my own signature.
Guys, I like all your new signatures! :)
Mouchoir de Monsieur, these boards have certainly been enriched by your writings, I've enjoyed them very much. I'm interested to know though, what were your impressions of sleeping and waking in a tent? Wishing you a speedy recovery!
Had the distinct pleasure of testing Blenheim Bouquet in Tangs (Big Noodle) recently, definitely top draw and refreshing. Can't afford it though, but it doesn't matter I can read Le Mouchoir, and I do so very appreciatively.
My bf can wear all kinds of "feminines" that I can not. He doesn't know anything about fragrance, I just try things on him, and if they work, then they work. So he unknowingly is going about his day all the time wearing big florals yet he smells "right." In fact he goes to his carpenter job wearing plaid shirts and fragrances such as: Carnal Flower, Carillon pour un ange, Honour Woman ... and he just smells fresh and clean after a shower. When I try to wear those, I feel like Tootsie.
Here we are in another year, another time, and I, myself, find again that I am suffering from yet another case of something, something different, I imagine, though as it pans out I am inexplicably bound in the very same bed. It is embarrassing to admit, embarrassing, that is, to my own self, just how many hours in a day I can spend exploring Basenotes when I am assigned the dreaded "Bed Rest." Recently, I had the pleasure of a kind PM by koalawho tells me that he, too, is down with the confounded bronchite, this loathsome affliction that is a recurrent, unwelcome visitor in my house: The only thing good about her is her "Hostess Gift." My perfume du jour is Codeine. So, bored as I am, I remembered this thread: Currently, I am meant to be piloting my own: Who knew that on BN we could have our own airline? (AIR MDM, Where every flight is a flight of fancy) At any rate, in re-reading it I see that a question was addressed to me, and I, who knows how, neglected to answer it, and it was a juicy one! It went this way: "How did you find the experience of sleeping in a tent?" Ah! Yes. It is true that, upon getting to know a fellow BN contributor on PM, the course of our written discussion brought us very naturally far, far away from perfumes, and seemed to want to focus on life in general. In the midst of these exchanges, it came to light that I had never slept in a tent, nor had ever I gone camping, and that the closest I had come to an experience such as that was getting locked in to Pere Lachaise Cemetery and having to spend the night hiding in one of the many crypts that have been vandalized over the years for fear of crossing paths with the guard dogs, which are trained to attack, that roam the cemetery after hours. So it came to pass that, on a dare, last June, I boarded a fourteen hour flight that took me well across the world, with only a small backpack, and not my usual trunks of clothes and toiletries. Three days after my arrival, I was in a tent, with someone who, for intents and purposes, I had never before met. I think that, of all the things that I have done on a whim, this experience may very well make the list of top ten most magical. So out of my element was I, it felt as if I had not just left my home, left my adopted country, but also left the planet: The most enchanting thing was that, the new one where I landed was so beautiful, and so full of surprises, that, even though while it was happening I was nervous and felt somewhat overwhelmed, looking back on it I must fight back tears as a wave of nostalgia flows right over me, and threatens to take me with it...back to this place where I have to my name only one pair of jeans, and I am wearing them, and not much else: The rest of my earthly possessions turned momentarily into a pillow upon which to rest my head, and my home: My home, previously of stone, is made of nylon, and is luminescent with every shade of light the world will shed in the height of June. It was beautiful. Cathartic: I am, since then, very distinctly not the same person. I remember how, when it began to rain, I and my BN "virtual friend," now real, and in flesh and blood, were inside our tent, which was barely large enough to contain me in all my length, she whispered to me that, "the trick is, to not touch the walls of the tent. If you do that, the water will come through" at which point she took my hand, and brushed it up against the wall of cloth, which caused a tiny thread of water to run down my arm. Every raindrop made a tiny sound that, when heard with all the others, combined with rushes of wind through full blown leaves, was that of a symphony, more beautiful than any I had previously heard. And the mornings! When morning came...each time it brought with it a kind of wonder...and a palpable thankfulness that all my life had previously escaped me: The Morning is a gift most precious. Sunny, wet, grey, cold, every dawn is a promise. Who would ever imagine that having an overblown fancy of perfume could bring about such epiphanies? In short, Ozjon701, it was an unforgettable experience that shall live within me until I die, and perhaps, beyond: I wish the same unto all you readers out there. Someone I had never met sent out an unseemly dare. I took her up on it, and now, in large part thanks to what she showed me, a world I had never seen, everything is different. to all best wishes, le MdM


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CRYSTAL LAKE – Some looked like gray fuzz balls up close, others like flowers.
They're "actually quite artistic," said Judy LaZonby, the owner of a Crystal Lake-based lab that conducts microbial and fungal testing.
She pulls up a photo of a microscope slide on her computer: "These little hairy things are the fungus. This is a gym sock, so you see the looped white material, and then all the little black spots are chaetomium growing on this stuff.
"Each one of those little balls has hundreds of spores inside of it. It's a puff ball. It attaches, and then it grows big enough, and then it pops. When it pops, it opens sort of like a Pac-Man."
Like many companies in McHenry County, the work that LaZonby's MicroStar Lab does is behind many products that show up in everyday life, including wallboards, paint, drapes, ceiling tiles, countertops and gym bags. It also does military-grade testing.
Its rooms are filled with temperature- and humidity-controlled chambers where rows of fabric, drywall or other samples hang over a pan of moldy dirt. Everything is meticulously monitored, and LaZonby or one of her technicians will receive a text or email alert if anything veers off course.
The samples are checked once a week for four weeks, and if the controls don't have mold growing on them by the end of the test, the whole process has to be repeated, an aspect that has kept the competition pretty limited, LaZonby said.
Some of the tests are for quality control, making sure that each batch of a product comes out the way it's supposed to.
It also will identify fungus that has shown up in factories so that the company knows what antifungal agent to use to combat the problem.
"Every fungus can be identified by the way it produces spores," LaZonby said. "They all do it a little bit differently."
MicroStar Lab also tests new products and is involved in research and development, seeing how much of a chemical can be removed to cut down on costs while still using enough to keep the product antimicrobial or anti-fungal.
Scot Forge in Spring Grove also is involved in research and development for its clients, said Tony Biell, its director of quality assurance and metallurgy. It forges parts for Caterpillar tractors and dump trucks, for missiles and rockets, for submarines and even for the Mars Rover.
"Where does the science come into it?" Biell said. "Metallurgy is the science. We have to figure out how to forge the metals. That means what temperature do we heat it to, how do we control the temperatures, how much forging we do at certain times to get the right microstructure, and then how to heat treat it."
They also can change up the composition of the metal. For example, changing the levels of carbon and manganese in steel.
Depending on the different variables Scot Forge uses, it can make metal soft or hard, change how much impact it can take and adjust its ductility, meaning how much it bends before it breaks.
A lot of experiments are conducted to reach the criteria set out by the client, and then ultrasonic waves are used to test for any defects, Biell said.
Metal is shaped two main ways, through casting at a foundry and forging.
Casting is good for taking advantage of economies of scale, but the metal tends not to be as strong because it's porous and has an inconsistent grain structure, Biell said. Forging can take a cast and minimize or even eliminate those defects.
Before products make it to Scot Forge to be made or MicroStar Labs to be tested, a prototype might be built using 3-D printing at C.ideas, a Crystal Lake-based business run by president and CEO Mike Littrell.
"When someone was coming up with a new product, they would use 3-D printing basically to proofread their designs," he said. "As the printers have become faster, the materials have become more exotic and the cost has come down, more industries are using."
The market has saturated fairly quickly over the last decade, and while the process has changed little since it started, the areas it has delved into have been varied.
This process, which was developed about 30 years ago, has been used to make full skeletons and organs for medical training or to test run a reconstructive surgery custom-made hearing aids, movie props and scale models.
Scientists also will turn to 3-D printing to develop specialized tools to prove out theories they're working on.
One of the most interesting projects Littrell worked on was in building a two-story iceberg for the Museum of Contemporary Art.
"This is the next big gold rush, but no one knows what the rush is for," Littrell said.

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Perhaps looking at fossilized life (and specifically where it once occured) will help SETI narrow down that huge scope in looking for still-active life.
Look folks, that's just a cover story. Geraldo Rivera has actually contracted with NASA to search for Jimmy Hoffa's body on Mars.
When we realized we all came from "Eve," the human/cylon hybrid.
Just because someone works for SETI doesn't mean they can't do related research about exobiology. This is especially the case because if we discover actual extraterrestrial life, even microbial life, the chance of SETI being successful goes way up. And as we find out more, we get a better idea what sort of star systems to look for for life or intelligent life.
Clearly the government's approach to confirming that there is intelligent extraterrestrial and/or extradimensional alien life with which they have been in contact is to do so in baby steps. First it's maybe extraterrestrial life is possible but it'd be too far away to ever get to us. Then it's maybe Mars once had water. Then it's maybe that rock from Mars that impacted earth had remains of microbes but we can't tell for sure. Now it's a Mars site that may hold buried life. Yeah, they like to do this in
I don't think there's anything covert or nefarious about it. A few decades ago, before we had a good handle on organisms like extremophiles, it was assumed that life had, even on Earth, a tentative grip, that there was only this exceedingly narrow band of conditions that could produce life, and that any world that fell outside that was very likely barren. In the last couple of decades our understanding of organisms that can survive in an incredibly hostile environments, not to mention the discovery of a lot of carbon compounds even in deep space, has opened up the possibility that maybe all you need is water (or maybe even ammonia), carbon and energy. Beyond that, our understanding of Mars has greatly increased, and we've pretty much confirmed in multiple ways that, whatever the state of the planet now, at one time it was volcanically active and had open bodies of water, conditions not so different from Earth.
Convince the American people that Mars has weapons of mass destruction and give the military the funding it asks for. Um... 2007 called. They want their joke back. It's 2010. Jokes have to be about bipartisanism.
While you may be technically correct, Either way, Here's bipartisan;
A black man in a suit, in front of a lot of cameras with national attention stating to the red and the blue "We can all get along".
- Dan.
Are you saying that Barack Obama is a motorist?
I don't find it surprising that the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence Institute would be interested in signs of life on another planet.
That's kind of the point of the organization, isn't it?
After giving up on intelligence they had to... SETL. Ba da boom.
Why shouldn't they look for life? Discovering significant evidence for the existence of extra-terrestrial life (intelligent or not) strengthens their cause to find intelligent life. We really haven't found much to say that life is not unique to our own planet.
While it may not have been part of their original mission, "The mission of the SETI Institute is to explore, understand and explain the origin, nature and prevalence of life in the univ
I for one welcome our new Fossilized Martian Overlords!
May, might, maybe. I am optimistic, but let me know when they actually find life and not every speculation someone has each day.
May, might, maybe. I am optimistic, but let me know when they actually find life and not every speculation someone has each day.
That may be all you are interested in, but if we all ignored everything until it was confirmed then nothing would ever be done. Granted the headline is WILDLY optimistic and on that I agree with you, since what was proposed was merely to investigate a site which is expected to have fossils if there were ever life to make those fossils.
Even still this is a necessary part of what science IS.
Observations were made.
A Hypothesis was formed.
Tests were proposed.
Learning about what was suggested and planned for those steps is something that interests a great number of people here.
It sounds more like this: If there was life on Mars, then these rocks remind someone of rocks in Australia that preserved evidence of early life on Earth.
This does not imply by any means that the existence of these rocks raises the probability that there was life on Mars.
Compare: We discovered life on Earth in a red rock. We found red rocks on Mars, therefore they might be hiding evidence of life! Or not...
Compare: We discovered life on Earth in a red rock. We found red rocks on Mars, therefore they might be hiding evidence of life! Or not...
Isn't it more like saying:
If there were life on Mars, based on our experience on Earth in looking at similar formations, these rock formations seem to be the most likely to have preserved evidence of past life.
If there was life on Mars, based on our experience on Earth in looking at similar formations, these rock formations seem to be the most likely to have preserved evidence of past life.
Sorry for the little correction, but I think the two forms of conditional are too often confused, and it's worth pointing out that "were" is used in the case of unreal conditionals. This is not the case: the possibility of past life on Mars is not known, hence, not impossible.
These mars probes are super cheap in the global scheme of things. You can pay for them with a few hours of the cash outflow we spend on middle east wars or on wasteful entitlement programs - and in fact possibly even less, since producing the 2nd is cheaper than the 1st. Instead of building 1 or 2, we should build 20, and drop them down in interesting places. Some will land on a boulder and never be heard from again, but some will also luck out and we'll have them in more scientifically interesting place
I'm sure I'd like to see this happen just as much as you, but there's a couple problems. For one, NASA does have a limited budget. It may not be expensive for our country to build twenty of these, but it is expensive for NASA. We (as a nation) just don't value space exploration enough, which is sad.
The other problem is putting your eggs in the same basket. With each new rover we send, we can draw from lessons learned from past rover missions and improve them. What if all twenty had a fatal flaw that we didn't discover until it was too late? What if there was some instruments/capabilities that would be beneficial to have on them, but didn't know they would come in handy until after they landed? I would love to see a more aggressive space program. Although, it seems better for us to launch one rover every year for five years (each of which presumably more capable than the last), than to launch five all at once every five years.
build em out of lego mindstorms and crazyglue them together and use plentu of duct tape. then the only cost is getting 'em there!
Not to mention managing 20 landers at the same time
Also, yes, the 2nd, 3rd is cheaper, but you still need one rocket per lander (which is an important part of the price tag)
It may not be expensive for our country to build twenty of these, but it is expensive for NASA.
The point, however, is that the cost of building two is nowhere near double the cost of building one. Spirit/Opportunity did not cost double MSL, the Voyagers didn't cost double Galileo. In fact, NASA will always build multiple rovers/probes to have spares on Earth to practice fixing a problem before risking the real rover/probe. Building a single MSL rover is a false economy, in a $-per-discovery sense.
Also, look at the gap between rovers...
Pathfinder: 1997
Spirit/Opportunity: 2004
MSL-Curiosity: 2012 (be
I did a paper on this in graduate school, in the late 1970s. After the initial shock of "OMG, he really means it" wore off, and particularly as the 1962 mid-term election season came along, it broke down more along lines of party/ideology than many remember. Fiscal conservatives (true ones, not the so-called conservatives who, say, rubber-stamp anything the Pentagon wants) definitely never liked the huge cost, even though the deficit wasn't that big a problem at the time. (It was the guns-and-butter approach during the height of the VIetnam War that went wacko in the red-ink department; NASA's costs were a drop in the bucket, even then.) And, yeah, it generally was the "we've-gotta-beat-the-Russians" feeling that carried it to fruition despite the criticisms that did arise, particularly after the Apollo I fire in 1967 made it clear that a lot of corners had been cut -- and suggested strongly that a lot of cronyism had been going on. There wasn't a lot of serious comment about private enterprise doing it, however, because there was no "business case" to be made for it (the eventual price tag was about $25 billion in 1960s dollars). If it were to be done, it would be done by the government.
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It was all about beating the Soviets. The world had learned in WWII that air superiority is the key to winning a war and space superiority was considered to be the next step.
Sputnik scared the hell out of the western world. This allowed NASA to be more aggressive and take risks that would not be acceptable in today's social climate so progress was made at a pace quick enough to excite the public.
The public also had an unrealistic idea of space as well - they expected day trips on a TWA shuttle to colonies
but you have to address the "why" of sputnik scare and the space race in general. Putting Sputnik in orbit meant the Soviets could drop a nuke anywhere on the planet. They might not get through with bombers, but there's no stopping it from dropping out of orbit onto your home town in Nebraska.
Every rocket used in the space race up-to but not including Saturn V was a nuclear missile adopted to accept a human crew.
I wasn't around when Kennedy made his speech about going to the moon so I was wondering, what was the reception of the speech at the time?
My understanding is that it was lukewarm-to-positive at best, because we'd been recently and roundly spanked by the Soviets in space and because beating the Soviets was the name of the game. What there wasn't was neither a sudden nor a sustained burst of public support for going to the Moon and beyond.
There were cries of pork - but those centered mostly around the decision to build the new facilities in the Vice President's home state on land owned by his cronies. Not so much over the program at large. But then, there were also cries over the great expense and cost overruns of the Mercury program.
Republicans were much more of a financially conservative party then, did they balk at the cost and actually try and cut spending from it rather than reallocating it?
The big cuts came in '65-'67 when the true costs of the program (much, much higher than originally estimated) were becoming obvious. The costs were also pushed higher because of NASA's indulgence in gold plating and in ever increasing mission creep. (And I don't recall which side of the aisle they came from.)
What most people don't realize is that by the time Apollo 11 flew, the program was already running on fumes. Major hardware production had already been capped, the overall budget had already been sharply trimmed, and future programs had already been capped or eliminated. Many people blame Nixon for killing the Apollo program, but in reality all he did was pull the plug on the ventilator - the patient was already essentially dead of wounds incurred during the budget firefights in '65-'67.
The same applies, in reverse, to the Shuttle program. NASA started studying aircraft type reuseable spacecraft about 2 seconds after it was created, and spent considerable money and effort doing so across the 1960's. (In fact, the final study contracts for what became the Shuttle were signed while Apollo 11 was in flight!) Again, by the time Nixon arrived on the scene, the die was already largely cast - and he had greater priorities than spending political capital on space exploration, which the public cared little about so long as provided plenty of puff filled press releases, pretty pictures, and accomplishments both real and pseudo.
And that's really one of the keys to understanding how we got in such a mess, and why we can't seem to get out of it. There really isn't a national consensus over space exploration, and the debates raging today over basic policy are the ones we should have had forty years ago.
If the answer to these questions is that the response was more positive, was it Kennedy himself who paved the way for this plan to be accepted, or the general fear of the Soviets that got it pushed through?
The answer, which will surprise many people, is neither,
What isn't widely known (because most people only read the popular histories, not the academic ones) is that Kennedy chose the goal of landing on the moon rather hastily. He asked his advisers for a big flashy goal that the US could accomplish that the Soviet's couldn't, and of the options they offered he chose the moon landing and announced it, all within the span of a few weeks and without serious study on anyone's part. Within a few more weeks, as the costs and risks of the program became clearer, Kennedy began to seek ways to back off from supporting the program without political damage...
But what actually sealed Apollo's fate was an assassin's bullet in Dealey Plaza. That put one of the few major politicians that actually had any significant interest in space exploration into the Oval Office and allowed him to push the Apollo program as a monument to Kennedy.
ince producing the 2nd is cheaper than the 1st. Instead of building 1 or 2, we should build 20
Sure, building the second is cheaper than the building the first... The third is cheaper too - but by less than the difference between the first and second. In fact, the curve flattens out at "still pretty damm expensive" pretty quickly. This is partly because you're not really building enough for full economies of scale to kick in, and partly because there's still an enormous amount of unavoidable man hours invo
I am not sure where this is at, maybe it is some new must see martian tourist location. Someone show check for a few brochures I am sure we could see at least a few tickets at insane profits. It does sound quiet trendy you know, as we all know celebreties are always looking for something new and out of this world to splurge on.
Here's the link [seti.org] to the original paper.
While not a specialist, the paper looks to me FAR from suggesting anything close to what the headlines claim.
The "conclusions" of the paper state:
The presence of clay and carbonate in the Nili Fossae region suggests that biomarkers (if present) could have been preserved within these rocks, as they have been in the Pilbara region.
May be it's just the authors being understandably cautious on such a topic, on a peer-reviewed journal, with the language they are using.
(I reckon it's more likely, though, that it's the headlines erring on the excitement.)
It's the general nature of science journalism. They have to say absurdly hyperbolic things in their headlines.
and man may die tomorrow.
And slashdot may get a good article in, for once.
I'm not holding my breath though.
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Colorado leaders are planning the future of water, and Gov. John Hickenlooper's special water advisor, John Stulp, came to Morgan Community College Thursday to talk about it.
He was part of a water forum hosted by the Colorado Livestock Association at Morgan Community College.
"We are at a serious crossroads," said Morgan County dairy owner Chris Kraft, who acted as master of ceremonies, as he introduced Stulp. With the Colorado population continuing to grow, there is pressure on agricultural water supplies.
Stulp was once the Colorado commissioner of agriculture, and was asked by Hickenlooper to join his cabinet as a water advisor.
Agriculture is Colorado's No. 2 industry. If that is diminished, it will diminish the overall economy, Stulp said to a room full of producers.
It was an economic disaster when 92 percent of Crowley County's water was bought up, he said.
Ag uses about 86 percent of the water available to Colorado, cities use another 12 percent and self-supplied industrial facilities use 2 percent, he said.
So far, the water plans of cities have meant buying up agricultural water rights and drying up farms, Stulp said.
There is a concern that municipalities will take too much water from ag and hurt the economy.
City leaders complain that agriculture takes the lion's share of water, but they do not look at all the factors, Stulp said.
Ag water irrigates nearly 3.5 million acres of fields, which makes up about 5 percent of the land in Colorado, he said.
Only a tiny percentage of about 14,000 to 15,000 acre feet is used for hydraulic fracturing to produce oil, Stulp noted.
Rather than just drying up farms, it is important to plan for the future, he said. A Statewide Water Supply Initiative report says that, by 2050, the population could double and the state will need another 700,000 acre feet of water for the new residents.
Essentially, the state will not have enough water.
That has encouraged leaders to look at both consumptive and non-consumptive needs, the water supply availability and the projects and methods needed to meet future needs, Stulp said.
Even with all the currently planned projects -- such as the Northern Integrated Supply Project that Fort Morgan is a part of -- there would just barely be enough water to meet that new need, he said.
However, with a greater population comes a need not just for water, but for more prisons, more health care and more schools, Stulp noted.
Colorado could save about 150,000 acre feet by passive conservation, he said.
Providing an adequate water supply will take a combination of conservation, new supply projects above and beyond the currently planned one and alternatives to buying ag water rights and drying up farms, Stulp said.
One alternative is rotational fallowing, which would allow growers to lease their water to cities during a few years out of every 10 years, he said.
Other alternatives include interruptible supplies, deficit irrigation, water cooperatives, water banks and water conservation easements, Stulp said.
"The devil's always in the details," Stulp emphasized.
While changing the ways water is used, water law must be followed and senior water rights holders cannot be injured, he said.
Planners are looking at various scenarios that might come up in the next 40 years. They want to plan what to do if the situation stays the same, if the economy is weaker, if there is cooperative growth, if there is adaptive innovation through technology or if there is "hot" growth, Stulp said.
At the same time, planners want to make sure they do not take more than 20 percent of the water out of the South Platte River, for instance, which is scary since people have already bought almost that much, he said.
They have bought the rights, but continue to let the water be used in agriculture until it is needed, Stulp said.
Water storage is crucial, but not the only solution. The amount of water in reservoirs can vary wildly. In 2011, reservoirs had to let water go downstream, because they were full, but they could not fill up last year due to the drought. In fact, reserves fell to only 5,000 acre feet in 2012.
Colorado has about 7.5 million acre feet of water storage, with another 7.5 million acre feet planned, he said.
The top nine water storage projects will literally cost billions of dollars, and the price for storing water can range from $3,500 per acre foot to $30,000, Stulp said.
The state is unlikely to receive much federal money for water projects, and it is questionable whether the state government can put much into it, either, he said.
Planning for water needs is not just looking at the state as a whole or one stretch of a river, Stulp said. Different areas have different needs and situations. Planners need input from areas to learn how to best use water resources.
Besides agricultural water needs, planners have to look at what is needed for energy production, and how climate change may affect the state, he said.
Hickenlooper recently said the state needs a long-term water plan by 2015, and that any plan should start with conservation, Stulp said.
The City and County of Denver has already made substantial progress by reducing water use by 20 percent despite a 10 percent growth in population, he said.
"They're making a good effort," Stulp noted.
In the past, conservation efforts seemed to stop once a drought eases, but that has not happened in Denver. That is partly because of pricing to control use and rebates for buying low-flow toilets and other fixtures, he said.
That is only a beginning, because about half of the water used at a typical household goes outside on lawns and gardens, Stulp said.
Xeriscaping by minimizing lawns and using drought resistant plants in gardens could also reduce use, he said.
Ag producers can also use water more wisely, but that is not a panacea.
Sub-surface drip irrigation uses much less water than center pivots, but cost about $2,000 an acre to install, one participant said.
Agriculture is probably moving in the direction of sub-surface irrigation, but that has its detractors as well. They fear that would mean less water coming through the ground to rivers, Stulp said.
While conservation in cities may be applauded, cities can also keep using water over and over -- which will reduce river flow, one producer noted.
Those who criticize agricultural practices need to understand them first, Kraft said. The U.S. only has 18 percent of the world's farmland in production, but produces 40 percent of the world's food.
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The A's added some insurance in the bullpen by acquiring right-hander Edwar Ramirez from the Texas Rangers in exchange for infielder Gregorio Petit. Ramirez, who turns 29 on Sunday, will report to big league camp. He made 96 appearances over the past three seasons with the New York Yankees but was traded to Texas on March 9.
This move is no surprise as the A's have some health issues among their relievers. Andrew Bailey and Craig Breslow are both trying to work back from elbow soreness, though indications are they should be ready for Opening Day. But Michael Wuertz has made just one exhibition appearance due to shoulder soreness and has not been comfortable with his slider. Joey Devine has been throwing but has yet to appear in a game.
According to two scouts I talked to, Ramirez has a nasty change-up that makes up for a pretty average fastball. He was 6-2 with a 5.22 ERA and two saves in three seasons with the Yankees. His best season came in 2008, when he went 5-1 with a 3.90 ERA, 63 strikeouts and 24 walks in 55 appearances.
"He has a dominant change-up," one scout said. "He's not a power arm. He's a situational guy. He can be a help."
I'm glad to see Petit get a change of scenery. This guy has been blocked at shortstop w/the A's for several seasons now. The team is clearly looking at Cliff Pennington and Adam Rosales for the position coming out of spring, and Grant Green, last year's first-round pick, will be coming through the ranks. Petit didn't hide the fact he was disappointed he didn't get more at-bats w/the A's this spring, but this guy always had a smile on his face walking around the clubhouse.
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DeKALB – Lawn sprinklers in December are not a ridiculous idea for Joel Barczak.
Barczak, co-owner of Blumen Gardens in Sycamore, said gardening does not and should not go into hibernation during winter months, because it provides an ideal time for maintenance and planning ahead for spring.
With the severe drought over the summer, Barczak said it is especially important this year to make sure shrubs and evergreens such as pine, spruce and boxwood trees have plenty of water before the ground freezes and makes it impossible for the trees and plants to absorb nutrients.
Although it is past the optimal time for watering evergreens, Barczak said the ground is still soft enough to water before the frost sets.
"It's really critical on a yearly basis [for] you [to] pay special attention to evergreens," he said. "Those evergreen-type plants lose water all winter and can be damaged over the winter, especially with high winds and sunny conditions."
The late arrival of snow has also given gardeners an opportunity to apply a layer of mulch around those plants to help prevent the soil from freezing. Barczak said a two- to four-inch layer of mulch will help offset ground freezing up to four feet deep.
"It's the best insurance you can give for the survival of evergreens," he said.
For those who do not have evergreens, winter still provides opportunities to stay active in gardens. Dormant trees and shrubs such as crab apple and dogwood trees are much easier to prune and shape without leaves, Barczak said.
Winter also gives gardeners a chance to take a broader view of their landscaping outside of plants and flowers and focus on adding items such as heated birdbaths and stonework.
"Birds and wildlife [are] a nice addition to any garden," Barczak said. "People want something nice all four seasons. Winter should not be a downtime for gardening. It should be an active season."
Gardeners should also use the winter to plan next season's layout, said Candice Miller, a horticulture educator with the University of Illinois Extension in DeKalb County.
A key to any successful garden is crop rotation, she said, adding gardeners should use the winter to make sure they are not planning to plant seeds from the same plant family in the same area. Planting pumpkins one year and zucchini the next in the same area will increase the possibility of disease and insects, she said. Rotating that crop with tomato plants, for example, would decrease potential disease.
The winter also marks the beginning of master gardener classes at the University of Illinois Extension in DeKalb County. Starting Jan. 7, classes will meet every Monday at the DeKalb County Community Outreach Building.
Miller recommended the program for beginners or gardeners looking to learn more techniques and tips.
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is there really a way around it except to use ' to replace that single quote? thanks.
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In case you haven't heard yet, we read via Deadspin that Brady Quinn's sister, Laura, got engaged to Ohio State All-American A.J. Hawk. From all of us here at the M Zone, congrats! Although, we're guessing the Wolverines don't have a shot in hell when your kids sign their Letters of Intent in about 20-some years.
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Two carots? Two carots? How the hell does a college student pay for that? Has he signed an NFL contract yet. Oh, yea, I forgot. Tosu boosters...............
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brother is getting paid alright, but not by any booster. $35/autograph adds up mighty fast i'm thinkin'. personally, i'm happy to see him doing well - got the world by the gems & he's living the dream! got to admit that!!
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whats the deal with gearing ? so many people run diff ones and these people are usuly the ones that melt things trying to do something diff then the motor/esc are ment for i have had an sct 3800 for year about 200 cycles threw it both 2s 3s never one shut down melted or ripped a gear
Generally speaking, stock gearing is adequate unless you do something that necessitates a gearing change to keep your motor cool. Lower gearing was necessary for me, for example, when I changed to Trenchers.
Make it idiot-proof and along comes a better idiot
im a master tech in the auto ind. and have built many race trucks/cars and when we go from one track to another we change motors and gears if you have to play with gears to much you have the wrong motor
we run our slashes on 3 diff. track types and most of us use 3 diff. motor/gear set ups. up front it costs more but when you break or burn stuff its more and downtime
Just wondering super slasher
What's your current gearing?
Slash 2wd, Slash 4x4, 30th digger, Rustler VXL
20/90 verry verry reliable with sc badlands and stock tires
With the very wide power band and high torque and rpm of these brushless electric motors, you can play with gearing a lot more than a full size fuel powered low rpm small powerband engine. If you can adjust the gearing to keep the motor/esc within safe temps, you dont have the wrong motor. Granted there are situations where you would have the wrong motor... Like putting your 3800 in an e-maxx...
Most people burn stuff by either trying to push something to its limits, or making a mistake (such as too tight gear mesh, not checking temps when gearing up, or not paying attention to the manufacturers specs).
What is the point of this thread?>
By the way, you are geared really low for that motor. Gearing too low can cause a motor to run at higher rpm all the time and can make it overheat. Hope you are checking those motor temps 8)
By comparison, my 4 pole 4600 castle runs at 120° with 23/87. Yours should run about room temps or slightly above with my gearing. If you are over 110, you are undergeared, and not using the motors power, but suffocating it.
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i am new to brushless see so many diff. gear set ups and everone say to low except castle who make the set up. there is way more adj. you can make on these things with out pulling cams or pistons my point is why everone does diff then man. say to run
This make's the importance over,or under gearing quiet clear.
Not to mention what the manufacture suggest.
Ford says the stock 302 block can handle 500hp,It tolerated 900 for a bit,then split in two pieces.
Castle say's the sidewinder esc will take 2s in the slash with no issues,3s in a lighter rc vehicle,not that it wont do it.
Imo you walking a tight rope on 3s in a slash.
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Billy he might be running the mmp sct combo..
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shouldn't the people that make motor know whats best for it? and is a brushless like a combustion engine made to run at certain temps ? like chevy 350 best performance at 195 deg. any more or less it changes.
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I haven't been in the forum lately,as spring is hear,and I have been getting my fleet ready for the summer season.
If this is the case,the 3800kv 4 pole castle will pound the life out of the slash on 3s.
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a couple things "bones" first would you take you 1/4 mile car to baja 1000 then to datona then then take it drifting? and if so would you use same trany and motor? or would just a gear change make it work for all?
I think you might have an interest in nitro rc's.
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The motor is not the issue,it can take it with a smile. It's the esc that will get hot if you have the side winder. The 3800 is rated for 3s,with the mmp it's not a problem,and at 20/90,even the side winder might have a chance.
Think of the 4 pole as a big block,and the 2 pole velineon as a small block.
The big block make's a lot more torque at lower rpm's,were the small block need's far more rpm's to produce the same torque.
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So ....
To clear this up..
What electronic speed control do you have?
Slash 2wd, Slash 4x4, 30th digger, Rustler VXL
Your question is as ridicules as it is not relevant.You wouldn't have to be a engine builder to no the two engines are completely different animals..You asked for an answer and we are trying to help. With your mechanical ability,gearing a small electric motor shouldn't even be a problem.
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i am verry into nitro and having a ball with the new brushless
sorry the sct with built on fan verry verry happy with it
sorry guess my main prob is the huge diff in some gearing people running
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dune(2200kv big block) hard dirt (3800kv small block) street (5700kv hp small block)
sct and sct pro (with 2200/5700) keep sct 3800 in on truck and swap out other two in my second
what i ment by that question bones was people trying to drag/climb hills/and race with same motor and gears i change out motor sometimes and never melted or striped any thing
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Guys please give the chain posting a rest and use the edit button if you have a follow up thought a minute or two after you just posted. I have had to merge about a half a dozen posts in this thread
I dont see how this is a "problem". Different people have different power systems, run on different sized tires, different battery voltages, different terrain, different driving style, seek different performance, etc. All these variables play into why people use a wide variety of gearing.sorry guess my main prob is the huge diff in some gearing people running
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i ment with sct 3800kv i have seen a big diff in gearing
think point got off track just noticed how many people run so many dif. gearing on same truck same motor same terrain
Well people have different opinions
Some might not want to run that gearing because they do not want there electronics getting that hot
Also they might not have enough gears to experiment with
It varies also by their temperature outside
Slash 2wd, Slash 4x4, 30th digger, Rustler VXL
well i am learning all over again with the brushless and need to know prob more then i have to. it is great having all these forms and stuff online when i started 40 years ago we used strings. love my slash and sct 3800kv never ever fails me (2s or 3s)
I can kinda relate with this issue. I think a good amount of the variable comes down to driving style and application. But on the same note, I set one of my SC10's up to Ryan Maifields's setup sheet. Same 7.5 motor and 2S lipo running similar conditions. I killed two expensive motors in one weekend. The first one was with the gearing that he used. The second try, I dropped two teeth off of the pinion and still killed a new motor within a day.
Sometimes the different gearing suggestion posted on the internet baffles me too. When it comes right down to it, you just gotta go with what works for you and your track. I try to weed through all the stuff I read online and go with the most reliable sources. And even those are just used as a starting point. Unless they're racing next to me with an identical setup and beating me, you really can't treat their word as gold.
Another factor is the cooling system people have. The last year I was racing at the track, with the upgrades I use I had to be in the Mod Truck Class, I was running my Slash with a 10.5T (4200KV) Novak system geared 27/76 without any temp issues. The track was more of a fast track than a technical one, I geared for top speed not acceleration. In the SC class most were running a 13.5T (3500KV) geared more like 20-23/86 to keep their temps manageable. At the end of the race my motor was measured at 120 and the ESC 125. There were 2 1/10 scale nitro truggies that were placed in the class, since there were not enough to have their own class, and I placed 2nd just behind one of them. My motor temp stayed cool due to an Integy heatsink/fan combo along with the Al tranny case I run. My ESC has a fan on it to help with it's temp. To allow better air flow I use the bug body instead of a normal SC body.
im not a pro rc racer (to old and no time) i do race at a track with my son and both our trucks get questioned after we both win or place in top 5 and we run close to what man. recomends alignment is everything for controle
yeah but all that with a bad alignment and your not winning


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And in the spirit of mocking Easter mercilessly, we bring you the adventures of Noah, who was instructed to ... hang on, what was he instructed to do? (All emphasis tail-waggingly added.)
Genesis 6:19-20: "And of every living thing of all flesh you shall bring two of every sort into the ark, to keep them alive with you; they shall be male and female. Of the birds after their kind, of animals after their kind, and of every creeping thing of the earth after its kind, two of every kind will come to you to keep them alive."
Sorry, Lord, I didn't catch that ... come again:
Genesis 7:2-3: "You shall take with you seven each of every clean animal, a male and his female; two each of animals that are unclean, a male and his female; also seven each of birds of the air, male and female, to keep the species alive on the face of all the earth."
You know, if I was going to devote my life to a particular religion, I think I'd go for one whose Omniscient Deity could tell the difference between two and seven. I'm kind of picky that way.


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Colleges of Arts & Sciences to Host Special Event featuring Widow of Japanese Diplomat and Holocaust Hero
Yukiko Sugihara will speak about her late husband Chiune Sugihara who saved thousands of Jews from the HolocaustUniversity of Hawaiʻi at Mānoa
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Sugihara will give an eyewitness account of her husband's rescue activities and follow her presentation with a Q&A session and a book signing session of her memoirs, "Visas for Life." A photo exhibit of the rescue activities of Chiune Sugihara in Lithuania will also be available for viewing.
The event, which is free and open to the public, is sponsored by the UH Mānoa Colleges of Arts and Sciences, their Nisei Veterans Endowed Forum Series, the Visas for Life Project, and Shaoul Levy of Levy Affiliated Holdings, LLC. For more information, call (808) 944-7771.
Chiune Sugihara was the Consul General representing Japan in Kovno, Lithuania, in the summer of 1940. He issued thousands of visas to Polish Jewish refugees who were trapped in Lithuania and whose only escape route was through the Soviet Union and Japan. Despite the fact that he was forbidden by the Japanese foreign ministry to do so, he issued the life-saving visas, and more than 6,000 Jews thus escaped almost sure death at the hands of the Nazis. This was one of the largest mass rescues of Jews during the Holocaust, and today, it is estimated that there are more than 40,000 descendants of the Jews who received Sugihara's visas.
Moshe Langer, who as a teenage Jew from Poland received a visa from Sugihara, recalled, "Chiune Sugihara was nothing less than an angel...he saved my life. I can never thank him enough."
After the war, Sugihara was unceremoniously dismissed from diplomatic service for issuing the visas. Disgraced in his home country, Sugihara took odd jobs for several years and all the time not knowing what happened to the Jews he had helped. In 1968, a Jewish refugee who was saved by Sugihara sought him out. For the first time, Sugihara realized the Jews he had helped had actually survived the war. In 1985, Sugihara was finally recognized by the State of Israel as a Righteous Among the Nations for his life-saving activities. When asked why he issued the visas even against government orders, he said, "I may have disobeyed my government, but if I didn't I would be disobeying God." He added, "Those people told me the kind of horror they would have to face if they didn't get away from the Nazis and I believed them. There was no place else for them to go. They trusted me. They recognized me as a legitimate functionary of the Japanese Ministry. If I had waited any longer, even if permission came, it might have been too late."
In 1986, Sugihara passed away peacefully in his home near Tokyo. Since then, Sugihara's wife, Yukiko, who was present while he issued the visas and encouraged him in these activities, has been traveling the world telling her husband's story. Yukiko, who is 89 years old, is making a special trip to Hawaiʻi from Japan.
When asked about the visas, she recalled, "I encouraged my husband to issue the visas, even though I knew it might jeopardize his career and even our lives. We knew that Jewish refugees were in peril for their lives. Human life is the most precious thing."


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The advent of achievements changed the game of WoW in many ways. Not only do they provide recognition for time and devotion put into the game, such as the Loremaster or Justicar achievements, but in Wrath content and beyond, they can actually change players' approaches to game encounters. Consider the meta achievements for the Wrath raids. Who would have actually tried downing Sartharion with all three drakes alive if there had been no reward? Achievements prompt us to try more daring or difficult strategies for boss fights, do crazy or counterintuitive things in PvP combat, or run headlong into live mine fields. They also allow Blizzard developers to work in hard modes for certain bosses, giving them a scaling difficulty that provides accessibility for casual players and challenge for the hardcore.
So what about the vanilla and BC encounters? With a few notable exceptions, classic and Burning Crusade content has not received the achievement treatment.
If achievements had been part of WoW from the beginning, what would they have been like? Which crazy boss strategies deserved their own achievements in classic and BC encounters? Have you ever done something awesome in older content and thought, "Man, that should have been an achievement"?
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mount union inducted five into m club hall of fame
April 27, 2010
Mount Union College inducted five individuals into its M Club Hall of Fame on Saturday, September 22, at halftime of the Muskingum--Mount Union football game in the Mount Union Stadium.
The five inductees were Chris Weber (football/class of 1988), Larry Reeder (football & track/class of '83), Maria (Scheiber '91) Campbell (swimming/class of '91), David Forshew (track/class of '91) and Patrick Helmuth (swimming/class of '91).
Weber's honors included earning First-Team All-Ohio Athletic Conference recognition at defensive end in 1986 and at linebacker in 1987. He was a key member of Mount Union's second undefeated regular season team and second OAC Championship squad in 1986.
Reeder was a member of the OAC Championship Indoor 880 relay team 1983, a member of the OAC Championship Outdoor 400 relay squad in 1983 and part of the Purple Raider National Championship 400 meter outdoor relay squad in 1983. In football, he earned First-Team All-OAC honors as a defensive back in 1982 and he still holds the Purple Raider record for most punt return yards in a game (117 yards versus Hiram, '81).
Campbell earned All-American honors numerous times during her career, including placing sixth in the 100 fly (1989), 15th in the 200 medley relay (1989), 10th in the 200 medley relay (1990) and 12th in the 100 fly (1990). She also earned the 1991 OAC Women's Swimmer of the Year Award. Scheiber-Campbell also took the OAC Individual Championship in the 500 yard free in 1991, 100 yard fly in 1990 & 1991 and 200 yard fly in 1990 & 1991.
Forshew earned All-American honors winning the 1990 Indoor National Championship in the pole vault, placing third in the pole vault at Outdoor Nationals in 1990 and finishing second in the pole vault at Indoor Nationals in 1989. He won the conference individual title in the pole vault at Indoor OACs in 1990 & 1991 and at Outdoor OACs in 1990.
Helmuth earned All-American status placing 16th as a member of the 800 free relay squad in 1989, taking 16th in the 200 IM in 1991 and 13th in the 400 IM in 1991. He was the OAC Champion in the 200 IM, 100 yard breaststroke and 200 yard breaststroke in 1990.
To be eligible for induction into the M-Club Hall of Fame an individual must have received a degree at least 15 years prior to their selection. The person must have earned two letters in one sport or one letter in two sports. A coach must be retired for five years or more before induction.
Three individuals were also honored as 2007 M Club Award of Excellence recipients. They included Michael Muffet (football/1967), Sue Deas (volleyball, basketball & softball/1975) and Michael Gallina (baseball/1982). Award of Excellence recipients are recognized for their significant accomplishments since their time at Mount Union.


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The brand new Grime smash produced by my good friend Teddy Music. This remix features a whole heap of UK artists incluing Dot Rotten, Lil Nasty, Lady Leshurr, Scrufizzer, Double S and Tre Mission.
I predict big things for this record, which is availble from April 15th on iTunes.
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Plant Heritage dedicates its 40th anniversary display at RHS Chelsea Flower Show (22-26 May) to the National Plant Collections®, which are at the heart of its conservation work.
Open weekend to see the National Plant Collection, Meconopsis (large flowered blue spp. & cvs.). There is a 2 acre plantsman's garden.
"By supporting the Threatened Plants Appeal, you will be instrumental in not only safeguarding it, but also ensuring that our work carries on." Alan Titchmarsh
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Steve Keim liked the idea of bringing in a player "with a chip on his shoulder," but through a smile, Antonio Cromartie insisted that wasn't the case.
"Don't see it as a chip," said Cromartie, the Pro Bowl cornerback who signed a one-year contract with the Cardinals Thursday after being cut by the New York Jets March 9. "Is it motivation? Yes. Big-time motivation. You don't get many phone calls.
"But (it's also) motivation because you are part of a team that's right where you need to be. Big-time contending team."
"Fit" is an adjective often used in free agent signings, but rarely does it make as much sense as the marriage between
The deal looks a lot like the one veteran linebacker Karlos Dansby signed a year ago with the Cards. It's worth a reported $3.25 million salary, with the chance to make another $500,000 if he can play every game – important after dealing with a nagging hip flexor strain last season in New York.
Keim said Cromartie checked out medically, and Cromartie said he feels fine, having gone through a workout Thursday morning before agreeing to the deal and flying to Arizona for a press conference.
"You feel good about a guy who has a chip on his shoulder, has huge upside, has all the physical tools and has played at a high level," Keim said. "Now we bring him in on a one-year deal where he is ready to prove to the NFL and the world he is still the same kind of guy."
Cromartie shrugged off questions about going back to the Jets, saying he wasn't surprised the team didn't try to re-sign him even as league-wide interest waned. "It's part of the business," he said.
In fact, the Cardinals were apparently the only team that chased him, something Cromartie didn't have an answer for. Maybe it was his age (he turns 30 next month) or questions about the hip, he said.
Not that it mattered. The Cardinals brought him in for a visit late last week and stayed
But Cromartie was always the goal, and Keim made sure he knew that. Cromartie said his delay was mostly about including his wife in the decision-making process, especially with a family to bring cross country for what might only be one season.
It didn't hurt that Cromartie left his Arizona visit with a great feeling, not surprising with the personalities of Keim and coach Bruce Arians.
"They did a good job trying to recruit and making me feel comfortable," Cromartie said. "My visit, it was like I had been here two or three years already."
Even Thursday Cromartie looked at ease with team president Michael Bidwill, who took part in the press conference with Keim and Arians out of town, trading smiles. Cromartie even mentioned one of Bidwill's favorite topics, the possibility of the Cardinals playing a Super Bowl in their own stadium this season.
The Cards can now move 2013 starter
Instead, they have
Cromartie, a 2006 No. 1 draft pick of the San Diego Chargers, has made three Pro Bowls total. He started all 16 games for New York last season despite battling a hip problem, and made three interceptions with 37 tackles and eight passes defensed.
Keim said Cardinals cornerbacks coach Kevin Ross, who was Cromartie's coach when both were in San Diego, said Cromartie spends a ton of time at the facility studying video. That's the kind of player Keim embraces.
Cromartie's new teammates, meanwhile, just know they are adding a major talent.
"It's about to be trouble, trouble, trouble," Peterson wrote on Twitter.
"It's great to have my brother @CRO31 joining the #birdgang family," wide receiver


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UNIVERSITY PARK, Pa. - A late flurry of goals to close the first half and a strong performance in the draw circle gave the seventh-seeded and No. 7 ranked Penn State women's lacrosse team a 12-9 win over the No. 15 UMass women's lacrosse team on Sunday afternoon in the NCAA Tournament Second Round at the PSU Lacrosse Field. Maggie McCormick and Mackenzie Cyr led all players with six points each, while UMass was led by Cori Murray's three goals and two goals from both Tanner Guarino and Lauren Terracciano.
The loss ended UMass' season at 18-3 overall and snapped a 15-game winning streak. The Minutewomen had advanced to the second round after defeating No. 18 UConn on Friday in the first round. Penn State improves to 14-6 overall and will face second-seeded Northwestern in the NCAA Quarterfinals.
UMass also received goals from Katie Ferris and Amy Tiernan. Jamie Schiloski made the start in goal recording four saves in nearly 50 minutes of play. Rachel Vallarelli closed out the final 10 minutes with two saves. After returning to action in Friday's game following a knee injury, Kelsey McGovern had two draw controls on Sunday to set a new single-season draw control record at UMass with 110 for the year.
PSU's McCormick had four goals and two assists, while Cyr had two goals and four assists. Kelly Lechner added three goals, while Molly Fernandez had two. Emi Smith made seven saves in goal for the win.
UMass held a 25-to-21 advantage in shots for the game, but a 14-to-9 edge in draw controls for Penn State proved the difference maker.
After Penn State took a 4-1 lead in the first 10 minutes of the opening half, Murray scored back-to-back goals 33 seconds apart to pull the Minutewomen back within a goal at the 17:04 mark.
The Nittany Lions tacked on a pair of goals off UMass turnovers to push their lead back to 6-3 at the 10:24 mark.
Guarino cut the deficit to two again with her score with 4:29 to go, but UMass was able to score off the ensuing possession. A Smith save led to a transition goal for Penn State with 1:21 on the clock extending the lead to 7-4. Penn State won the next draw control tacking on another goal 17 seconds later.
PSU again won the draw control after the goal and gained the extra man advantage with 24.9 seconds to go. Tatum Coffey ripped a shot from the doorstep, but Schiloski made the save to keep the deficit at 8-4 heading into halftime.
UMass killed off the balance of the penalty to start the second half, but Cyr tallied an even-strength goal to put the Nittany Lions up 9-4 just under two minutes into action.
Tiernan, Murray and Guarino each scored consecutive goals over an eight minute span with the Minutewomen pulling back within two, 9-7, with 19 minutes to play.
Back-to-back draw control wins, however, swung momentum back to Penn State with Fernandez and Katie Guy extending the Nittany Lions lead to 11-7.
Ferris then converted a loose groundball into a goal to pull UMass back within three goals, but Penn State again responded with a Lechner goal to go up 12-8 with with 10:19 to go.
The UMass defense was able to get possession back twice over the next three minutes, but was unable to convert those into goals.
Penn State forced a turnover on UMass' third possession in that span and ran off nearly four minutes of time before the Minutewomen were able to get the ball back.
Terracciano scored with 1:58 to go making it 12-9 and a PSU turnover on the next possession gave the UMass sideline hope for the late rally. The Nittany Lion defense forced a turnover with just over a minute to go, collected the groundball and ran out the balance of the clock to secure the win.


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Original article here: http://www.spiegel.de/international/...-a-872726.htmlWith seven seconds left to go, there was no one to be seen on the ground. Bryant could still have diverted the missile at that point. Then it was down to three seconds. Bryant felt as if he had to count each individual pixel on the monitor. Suddenly a child walked around the corner, he says.
Second zero was the moment in which Bryants digital world collided with the real one in a village between Baghlan and Mazar-e-Sharif. Bryant saw a flash on the screen: the explosion. Parts of the building collapsed. The child had disappeared. Bryant had a sick feeling in his stomach.
Did we just kill a kid? he asked the man sitting next to him.
Yeah, I guess that was a kid, the pilot replied.
Was that a kid? they wrote into a chat window on the monitor.
Then, someone they didnt know answered, someone sitting in a military command center somewhere in the world who had observed their attack. No. That was a dog, the person wrote.
They reviewed the scene on video. A dog on two legs?
Humans reduced to dogs.
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I have a 3 week old who has been doing amazing, gaining weight and perfect bowels and urine output. Lately he's been pulling off my nipple and fussy at the breast. He doesn't eat as long as he used to either. He had a really bad diaper rash and I took him to the dr and he prescribed a cream (nystatin with hydrocortisone), he has no white spots in his mouth. Just today I have noticed that I keep getting a stabbing pain after breast feeding on the right side that lasts for a couple hrs and hurts to the point I can't sleep. I've taken Advil to get it to calm down. My nipples are a little pink, but not sore when he's feeding. I'm going to the drs tomorrow. Does this sound like thrush? Is this going to decrease my milk supply?
Your help would be great.


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University News
Village of Altamont Poised to Embrace Promising Future Thanks to IIRA's MAPPING Program
November 20, 2012
MACOMB, IL -- The Village of Altamont (IL) is poised to embrace a promising future, thanks to the commitment and dedication of its MAPPING Action Teams, according to staff at the MAPPING the Future of Your Community program, an initiative of the Illinois Institute for Rural Affairs (IIRA) at Western Illinois University.
The IIRA's MAPPING program (the acronym "MAPPING" stands for "Management and Planning Programs Involving Non-Metropolitan Groups") helps communities create a vision for the future and a plan for achieving it. It is a strategic visioning and planning process providing local residents of rural communities an opportunity to create a long-range vision for the economic development of their community and a plan of action for achieving it.
According to MAPPING the Future of Your Community Program Manager Gisele Hamm, Altamont's long-term plan includes five goals the community will work to achieve in the next 20 to 30 years, as well as the strategies the community members will utilize to reach their goals.
"To help with envisioning the results, goals are written as though they have already been accomplished. Each goal resulted in the development of multiple strategies to consider when creating projects, along with prioritization of those strategies to identify a starting point," Hamm explained. "Participating community members have also formed action teams for each goal—to develop their first project plans and begin work toward achieving those goals. To complete the MAPPING process, participants plan to hold a town meeting in January 2013 to unveil the action plan to the entire community and to encourage other residents to get involved."
The first of Altamont's five goals is aimed at attracting I-70 travelers with unique lodging options, restaurants and shops. The short-term strategies include cleanup efforts and researching to develop signage along the interstate. There are also plans to develop the recreation and park system in the village to appeal to all age groups, as well as to meet the community's needs, Hamm noted.
The third goal includes offering a variety of incentives designed to attract businesses and encourage start-ups. Plans are in the works to create a marketing strategy promoting businesses and development in Altamont. The fourth goal is comprised of plans for the utilization of the village's facilities to host events and to promote the area as a venue for concerts, fairs, expositions and festivals.
"Lastly, developing a wide variety of educational and character-building programs will make Altamont a great place to live, welcoming new families and businesses with available information and activities in the community," she added.
Community champion James Lurkins invited the MAPPING Program to Altamont after noticing a change in nearby Dieterich (IL).
"I had noticed a cleaner, well-rounded town and learned that both Dieterich and the Stewardson-Strasburg area have experienced great successes after participating in the program. This will, hopefully, enable the community members to combine efforts and work together to realize our goals. MAPPING is an important program that will help to ensure the future of our community in the long term," Lurkins noted.
"The MAPPING program enhances local decision-making processes by providing accurate information, an effective forum for public dialogue and problem solving, as well as knowledge of innovative practices consistent with a community's vision for growth and change," Hamm explained. "MAPPING is a tool local leaders and citizens can use to create a shared vision of the community's future and generate momentum to put the plan into action."
MAPPING programs are funded, in part, through a cooperative agreement with the Illinois Department of Commerce and Economic Opportunity (DCEO) and Western Illinois University.
For more information about the IIRA's MAPPING the Future program or the Altamont MAPPING initiative, contact Hamm toll free at (800) 526-9943 or via email at firstname.lastname@example.com.
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Daigneau led Harvard to the 2006 ECAC crown (photo courtesy David Silverman).
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Bill Keenan '08 Heads to Finland
Former Harvard men's hockey goaltender John Daigneau has joined the Canisius hockey team as an assistant coach, Golden Griffin head coach Dave Smith announced Wednesday.
At Canisius, Daigneau will work directory with the team's goaltenders and will also assist with recruiting, video operations, academics, community outreach and other on-campus duties.
"We are extremely excited to have John join our staff," Smith said. "He comes very highly recommended from his coaches at Harvard and the people he has worked with in the past. John has been with numerous championship teams and our Griffin hockey program will look to draw on those positive experiences."
A four-year member of the hockey team at Harvard from 2002 to 2006, Daigneau posted a 25-12-2 record with a 2.40 goals against average and a .914 save percentage as the Crimson won two ECAC titles and advanced to four NCAA tournaments.
Daigneau enjoyed his most successful season as a senior. He earned ECAC Hockey League Championship Most Outstanding Player accolades and was honored with the John Tudor Memorial Award as the team's Most Valuable Player.
After graduating from Harvard, Daigneau continued his hockey career at the professional level. He spent the 2006-07 season with the Idaho Steelheads of the ECHL, helping the team to the Kelly Cup Championship, and then finished his career with the Pensacola Ice Pilots of the ECHL (2007-08) and Wichita Thunder of the CHL (2008-09).
The Brookfield, Wis., native also spent two seasons as an assistant coach at the University School of Milwaukee, helping the team to the 2010 WIAA Boys State Championship.
Daigneau graduated from Harvard in 2006 with a bachelor's degree in government. He is currently pursing his master's in sport administration at Canisius.


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