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CA Fish and Game Commission President Shoots Cougar and Boasts About Hunt in Magazine
Humane Society of US Urges Californians to Voice Concern About Dan Richards' Leadership
Apparently Dan Richards, the new president of California Fish and Game Commission likes to hunt and is willing to travel to states that allow people to kill big wildlife — environment, conservation, and simple compassion be damned.
Photo courtesy www.ForestWander.com
Yesterday, the Humane Society of the United States (HSUS), CA, posted a picture of the Richards holding up a dead mountain lion he shot during a hunting expedition in Idaho.
It's illegal to shoot mountain lions in California. So Richards schlepped over to another state to fulfill his bloodlust.
A little snooping around on the Net turned up the site where the original photo was posted — a blog in Western Outdoor News — a fishing and hunting weekly. Here's the caption accompanying the photograph that Richards himself supplied the publication.
"NEW COMMISSION PRESIDENT CELEBRATES A SUCCESSFUL HUNT – California Fish and Game commissioner Dan W. Richards travelled deep into the wicked terrain of Idaho's Flying B Ranch to fulfill a long-held goal. "It was the most physically exhausting hunt of my lifetime. Eight hours of cold weather hiking in very difficult terrain. I told the guides I appreciated the hard work. They were unbelievably professional, first class all the way," he said. Richards said he took the big cat over iron sights using a Winchester Centennial lever action .45 carbine. Asked about California's mountain lion moratorium, Richards didn't hesitate. "I'm glad it's legal in Idaho." (emphasis added)
The blog also notes that Richards is outspoken opponent of the Marine Life Protection Act (MLPA) that requires the state to improve the way it protects the ocean.
Richards' decision to "not only hunt an animal whose protection has twice been approved by California voters, but to post a photo showing his glee over the trophy kill, undermines Californians' confidence in the state's leadership and commitment to wisely managed natural resources," HSUS' California director Jennifer Fearing said in a statement today. "Richards' example stands in stark contrast to the work by dozens of stakeholders – including The HSUS – which just yesterday culminated in the adoption of an interim strategic vision for California's fish and wildlife," she added.
The Humane Society is urging Californians to contact the Fish and Game Commission and voice their concerns about Richards' leadership role. I urge you to heed their call.
PS: When I contacted the Fish and Game Commission this afternoon I was told that their phones had been "ringing off the hook" but there were no senior officials around today to field the calls.
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I have watched the Bighorn sheep population in California plummet thanks to an emotional outlawing of Lion hunting in our state. I was one of the idiots that voted for it! Listen to me: the biologist views in Idaho have permitted the hunt, let the man have it, he paid for it. Hunting fees are the ONLY support our animals have worldwide. All other entities like The Humane society of the united states have an agenda of disarming Americans. they are anti-hunting period. giving this a 'moral' spin denies the existence of the many hunting stories in the bible. If you are not getting your morals from the bible, then you are getting them from Disney, and have no place in an adult discussion. Lions, by the way, are VERY edible, and the president has said that he eats them, as did our founding fathers and mountain men.
Save your wrath for chickens raised in pens, and veal. Hunters care more, and understand the human place in our planet more rationally than you will ever comprehend. Eat tofu and algae, and you think like tofu and algae.
By Dana on Sun, March 04, 2012 at 3:15 pm
I think he showed respect to the people and laws of California. It's against the law to hunt mnt lions there (peoples' choice), so he went elsewhere to do it. What's wrong with that? How many Califorians have gone to the casinos & brothels in Nevada, gone to another state because the drinking age was lower or traveled to a state to get married, where homosexual marriage is legal?
I wonder how much of this stink is really because a bunch of democrats don't want a republican holding the office, or if maybe it's being stirred by non-profit organization that spends less than 1% of the money raised actually helping animals out of bad situations, while the rest goes to lobbyists, employees and animal suffering propaganda.
By Luther on Fri, March 02, 2012 at 7:19 pm
Hey Richard Rasnikov, why don't we drop some lions off in your dining room just about the time you and your family are about to have a steak dinner.
By Fred on Fri, March 02, 2012 at 12:19 pm
What Dan Richard's did shows his disrespect for the wildlife he is supposed to protect. So in CA he protects and then goes to Idaho to kill? Yes he should be fired for insensitivity to these issues and the ability to manage CA's wildlife when he has such a poor attitude concerning the life of those he would protect.
He believes there are no consequences but time will tell. Perhaps he will get fired but more than that he will have to answer to nature for a senseless killing, a taking of a life, but that is on his conscience.
By Mark on Fri, March 02, 2012 at 9:09 am
I would like to offer a suggestion which may resolve the entire controversy.
Drop a couple of mountain lions in Richards' dining room some evening as the family is finishing up some apple pie. It could be filmed as a kind of karmic reality show.
That would give him a fair chance, which is more than the treed puma had.
By Richard Raznikov on Thu, March 01, 2012 at 10:35 pm
I am a hunter, fisherman, and gold miner, I havent killed an animal since 1970. they wont issue me a dredge permit to mine in the rivers of California, so I guess I should go kill something?? Jim
By jim henderson on Thu, March 01, 2012 at 8:00 pm
Boohoohoo, poor little Ira throwing tantrums and banging on his computer keyboard over nothing. I have been to Idaho and the people who live there are much better citizens than most of the wacko tree hugging, bunnyhugging crybabies like you who live in California. Are we at the point where someone can't say something without offending someone or some minority group. If we get to the point where people can't participate in their favorite traditions or participate in a legal activity without offending some group or crybaby citizen like you then we are all in trouble. Hope you enjoy your little pet mountain lion, someday you or member of your family will be on his menu. By the way you talk tough but you are the coward and would not stand a chance against one of us evil hunters in a fair fight.
By Fred on Thu, March 01, 2012 at 6:20 pm
you people on both sides of this issue are whackos. both sides are 100% positive they're right.
The issue is: Can you fire a public administrator because you don't share the same values? And you can't. Otherwise we become lawless animals.
By lloyd on Thu, March 01, 2012 at 1:22 pm
It is cruel to kill just for sport. If you are not killing for food or to protect your family than it is cruel. God did not creat his creations to be killed for sport. A person that does this has no respect for life. I'm glad it is no longer legal to hunt and kill human beings for sport.
By John Edwards on Thu, March 01, 2012 at 10:20 am
Mark Ruhe. I believe Tom's final comment with respect to the statement "He is a coward. If you want to hunt animals, do it without weapons" was "they call this shopping" or something to that effect. Are you a coward because you pay someone else to chase your chicken, kill it, and clean it, all with fancy technology that prevents them from soiling their hands, not to mention your own? Hell, your brain hasn't even broke a sweat over the hypocrisy!
By Mark Harner on Thu, March 01, 2012 at 1:10 am
Kristin is Precisely correct! He IS a coward and needs to go!
Oh, by the way-inbreds!, I do not eat Tofu, and do have a good size lion that has been in my backyard when I bbq! I leave him alone, and he leaves me alone! I have a Samurai sword for protection-no need for a Glock! The commissioner is a sadistic coward and should move to Idaho where he can kill predators like the other assholes!
Dogs and mosquitos and bees kill many more people per year than wolves, lions, and sharks! Hunting large predators is a sin!!!
...and Cowardly unless y'all fight fair-which, of course, ya don't!!!
By Ira Cord Rubnitz on Thu, March 01, 2012 at 12:20 am
Of course he ate it. Anti's just don't understand but have NO problem stating their opinion. They have no understanding of hunting, as evidenced by the comments here..
"Hunting for sport, with a gun, is a cowardly act. There is no pride deserved."
-not for sport. He of course ate it. Another anti lie about "sport hunting"
"What would he think of Mr. Daniels and his "big trophy"??? Well you can't eat a mountain lion that's for sure. He just shot and killed it for vanity's sake. He'd probably think that Daniels was a gutless coward with small genitalia."
- AGAIN of course he ate it.
By Jon Reid on Wed, February 29, 2012 at 8:35 pm
You may feel that your position on Mr. Dan Richards to have him resign or remove him from office is a right decision but I say let's take a look at what we as Californians are all about. Do we want animals to be protected sure we do but there are times we need to preserve the species by allowing hunters to harvest a few to maintain the population and to insure we have health species. This is a balancing act were if we allow the Mountain lions to over populate they start killing off other animals such as our deer, mountain goats, elk, my dog, neighbors cat, humans and so on. I think you would agree that if we allow the Mountain lion to over populate we would have more issues than Mr. Richards's legal hunting trip to Idaho. Idaho allows hunting of the Mountain Lion because as I stated above it is a balancing act to keep all the animal species health and their numbers up.
No one wants to see and animal killed but we as humans need to understand without proper management and control of our natural recourses there would be none for our children to enjoy. Mr. Richards's trip was on his own time doing a legal hunt to maintain Idaho's Mountain Lions population and protection of other magnificent species.
Mr. Richard understands the importance of preserving all species and I see him as an asset to maintaining the wildlife of California.
By Joe D on Wed, February 29, 2012 at 7:40 pm
I will bet that some of these crybaby bunnyhuggers have visited brothels in Nevada.
By Fred on Wed, February 29, 2012 at 4:40 pm
To all you crybaby bunnyhuggers, get a life and leave this man alone.
By Fred on Wed, February 29, 2012 at 4:14 pm
I wonder if any of these antis have ever gone to Reno or Vegas and played a slot machine or black jack ?
By zach c on Wed, February 29, 2012 at 4:10 pm
The Taliban have a committee on Virtue and Vice. They flog people who don't comply with their ideas about what's right. We're doing to same to this guy.
If his job description said hunting was grounds for dimissal, then dismissal is fine. But his activity is legal in Idaho. End of story.
By Lloyd Binen on Wed, February 29, 2012 at 11:45 am
Fish and Game Commission head says defiantly he won't resign
By Kevin on Wed, February 29, 2012 at 9:56 am
I totally agree w/ Tom, another readers commenta at the bottom of my comments.
I simply don't understand how a shooting an animal w/ a gun makes a person feel good.
They're using a gun for Christ's sake.
It's not like the cougar was stalking Richards. For gods sake, the hunter uses dogs to scare the cougar into hiding in a tree. The cougar doesn't have any weapons.
That's where Richards comes into the picture w/ a rifle. Richards could conceivable shoot the cougar if the cougar is within eyesight from conceivably from great distance w/ a rifle. He stalks a wild animal, never mind that the cougar displayed no aggression towards Richards. He shoots the defenseless cougar while the cougar is hiding in the tree.
Toms comments as follows:
"He is a coward. If you really want to hunt animals, then you should do it without any weapons."
By Tom on Wed, February 22, 2012 at 5:11 pm
By Mark Ruhe on Wed, February 29, 2012 at 3:36 am
Those people who live their whole lives in the metropolitan bay area think they know everything and have the right to dictate their views on the world. Mountain lions are big, silent, and deadly. When they are over populated they are not healthy, and they cause problems that city dwellers can't begin to imagine. I don't tell you how live you lives, shut up about how this individual conducts his. I live in lion country, and I understand the beauty of seeing these animals live and wild, and I know what its like to step out my door and meet one personally. Eat your tofu, and drive your Prius, manage your live as you like, what he does in his private life is none of your business. He certainly understands the balance of wild things so much better than you. Step out of your paved safe city for a couple of years and you will definitely see the trees in the forest.
By Tracy J on Tue, February 28, 2012 at 10:28 pm
Bohoo, so he used dogs to hunt the lion, it is almost impossible to hunt lions without dogs, these animals have to be managed and if hunting them with dogs is the best way to do it so be it.
By Fred on Tue, February 28, 2012 at 8:59 pm
Another website says he used dogs to tree the cat, and then he shot it. Legal or not, that is truly cowardly. Hunt like a "man".
By Curtis on Tue, February 28, 2012 at 8:13 pm
I respect what he did was apparently legal in Idaho.
But why couldn't he hunt with a paintball gun if he needs to "hit" something? This would be more challenging and require more skill. What does killing it prove?
Why don't hunters hunt by hand - take on the animal without a weapon? Answer: fear?
If a mugger robs YOU on the street or in your home, takes your money and kills you with a knife, would you respect that person's hunting prowess? Doubtful. That's hypocritical.
When a cougar or other animal attacks a human, why isn't the animal's hunting prowess cheerred? Humans are pathetic hypocrites.
Ranchers every once in awhile incurring loss by lions and wolves, etc.? Wildife species incur loss every hour of every day. How many tons of fish are commercially caught every day? And the "by catch" incidentally caught in the process? There's no comparison.
Did he eat the meat?
By Curtis on Tue, February 28, 2012 at 8:03 pm
(California's Lt. Gov. "Gavin Newsom Demands Fish and Game President to Resign After Shooting Mountain Lion" http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/2012/02/gavin_newsom_dan_richards.php
By Kevin on Mon, February 27, 2012 at 5:40 pm
Majority of California Assembly members call for resignation of wildlife official who killed mountain lion
By Kevin on Sat, February 25, 2012 at 6:18 pm
Prop 117 is an emotionally placed law by the public. If anything it has hurt our wildlife rather than helped. Mountain lion are not endangered and have never been. I've seen mountain lion 5 times on my 5 acre property in a year. Dan Richards doesn't decide what's best for the wildlife. He has appointed wildlife biologists to properly research and manage our wildlife. They are educated people with degrees who also have common sense enough to know that because we've already encroached on land we have to equally regulate predator and prey. Fish and game, operate in the best interest of the animal and herds as a whole. The biologists did not create Prop 117, a bunch of folks who are so emotionally controlled that they can't get past the loss of one animal for the better health of many of that species did. San Fransisco and Los Angeles interfered and our court systems let them take it out of the professionals hands. He legally went to another state and took a lion. That state accounted for so many lion tags in order to thin them out a bit like other animals. You can't thin one because of habitat and food sources and not another. Plus, how do you know that nobody ate the meat. Lion is delicious, not to mention organic. Just because you can't fathom it doesn't mean that other people don't eat lion. There is nothing wrong with hunting. It is a right and a choice that every US citizen should have without interference from others. My family drinks raw milk, we have our own eggs, and we eat self raised meat or hunted meat. We don't believe in the majority of medications or vaccinations and I want the choice to get my own meat that I know has not been tainted with antibiotics and steroids. Or grow my own produce that isn't GMO. Not to mention, it is a necessary evil that needs to be done in order to keep balance in our forests. People who oppose hunting. Please stay out of my livelihood and the decisions I make to keep my family healthy. I don't come to your coffee shops and start flinging my views or force my issues. Just as it is wrong for people to deny anyone the right to marry, it is wrong of you to deny people the right to choose their food. Common respect of peoples choices, even if you don't understand them would be nice.
By Free Choice on Fri, February 24, 2012 at 10:46 am
I would imagine most of these people who are criticizing Mr. Richards have little experience with wildlife outside of what they see on the Discovery Channel or read in a magazine at the dentist's office.
You can't walk up to a mountain lion in the wild and give it a hug, hate to burst you bubble folks but it just doesn't work that way - they are not really cute and cuddly.
I did read HSUS director Wayne Pucelle's blog item about this incident (http://hsus.typepad.com/wayne/2012/02/ca-mountain-lion-killing.html). But quite frankly I could care less what he has to say about anything. All you really need to know about the Humane Society of the US and Mr. Pucelle is showcased in the whole gray wolf reintroduction debacle that began in the mid 90s. They have blamed the failure of the program on everyone that had any involvement in it (Feds, State Agencies even the poor ranchers who lost everything). HSUS won't be satisfied until the wolves finish digesting every large mammal in the Northwestern US. Pucelle is typical of the armchair conservationists who have a 'Disney' take on wild creatures and little understanding of wildlife management. HSUS will not let a lack of expertise, knowledge or common sense get in the way of their mission to eliminate all sport hunting in the United States. This is just an opportunity for them to make some hay over this whole mess and exploit it into influencing DFG policy and intimidating other wildlife agencies into cooperating with them.
Let's face it, hunters are fair game these days. When you're less than 1% of the population that's the way it works. I just find it ironic that with a populace that considers itself very tolerant of a variety of different lifestyles most folks here cannot stand those like me who were brought up in a traditional hunting family/culture. I guess it doesn't mesh with their progressive ideals, animal right beliefs or whatever.
Bottom line: Richards did nothing wrong but the Disney crowd feels betrayed because the guy who runs the hunting program in California is actually a hunter.
By Chuck Thompson on Fri, February 24, 2012 at 3:23 am
Have you folks ever seen what a cougar does to a cow, sheep or dog?
By Joe on Fri, February 24, 2012 at 2:27 am
Why don't you crybaby bunnyhuggers get a life, Mr Richards did nothing wrong, should people be punished for going to another state to participate in a legal activity that is illegal in their home state.
By Fred on Fri, February 24, 2012 at 12:49 am
"He is a coward. If you really want to hunt animals, then you should do it without any weapons."
That is called shopping.
By Tom on Wed, February 22, 2012 at 5:11 pm
Let's see - this "shameful" sportman is the commissioner of the CA Fish and Game, funded by hunters and fisherman to conserve, preserve, and manage our natural resources. I would expect the guy to be a hunter in order to be credible as commissioner. He legally bought a license, hunted his legal prey, and broke no laws in his pursuit.
For you sniveling anti-gun, anti-hunting misinformed shrills, you need to grow up and get over yourselves. By the way, the ranch in Idaho has more people "LIKE'ing it than the total number of nuckleheads that signed the petition to remove Mr. Richards.
By Kevin James on Wed, February 22, 2012 at 5:00 pm
This is disgusting. You are not an outdoorsman if you are a hunter. To me outdoorsmen should have respect for nature and life. And you shouldn't be a President of the Fish and Game commission if you do not respect animals. He is a coward. If you really want to hunt animals, then you should do it without any weapons. It should be on the same playing field as the animal. Then it will really show how weak and low on the food chain humans really are.
Respect life, respect nature! Do not kill for fun or sport. It is the most dispicable act!!!
By Kristin on Wed, February 22, 2012 at 4:15 pm
Here is today's blog post by the HSUS director about the CA Fish & Game head -http://hsus.typepad.com/wayne/2012/02/ca-mountain-lion-killing.html
By Kevin on Wed, February 22, 2012 at 3:03 pm
To suggest that cats large and small don't require culling simply indicates you aren't a rancher who has suffered loss. And to judge someone for being "vain" for turning one into a trophy simply indicates you are judgmental. There's no argument there. You just want to judge someone else. I would suggest that no one values your opinion quite as highly as you do and encourage you to keep your valueless opinions to yourself.
By Brian Lantz on Wed, February 22, 2012 at 1:26 pm
Out! Out with Dan Richards as head of California's Department of Fish & Game. With his attitude toward animal life, a position in a slaughterhouse would be more appropriate. How did an individual like this reach such a powerful position in the first place?!!
By Bruce Grayson on Wed, February 22, 2012 at 1:22 am
First off, I'm not against hunters.
My grandfather was a hunter down in the Imperial Valley. He hunted, pheasant, grouse, quail etc.
However, he had a rule that was pretty simple:
"Eat what you hunt. If you are going to shoot an animal, than eat it". There is no shame in hunting and killing an animal for food". "We are carnivores" he'd say.
What would he think of Mr. Daniels and his "big trophy"??? Well you can't eat a mountain lion that's for sure. He just shot and killed it for vanity's sake. He'd probably think that Daniels was a gutless coward with small genitalia.
By Frederico Pena on Tue, February 21, 2012 at 7:38 pm
Great Comments. Dan Richards we have your back. You should stand up to these Commies, and remember this is the USA not Russia!
By Get real on Tue, February 21, 2012 at 7:28 pm
I searched the HSUS webiste and found no such posting…hmmmmmmmm??????
Most recent cougar article was on Feb 15th and is about hiking in cougar country.
By DM on Tue, February 21, 2012 at 7:06 pm
WOW! Nice trophy Dan, That will look GREAT in your den. Now see what you can do about the seal over population in Ca.
By Tom on Tue, February 21, 2012 at 5:28 pm
I would wager that those who suffer such 'moral outrage' over 'murdering' an animal have no problems turning a blind eye to the killing of soldiers, sailors and airmen in Iraq by a murderous religious sect that tortures their own. In fact I doubt they ever use the term 'murder' in relation to man, just the taking of an animal. These people need therapy.
By Brian Lantz on Tue, February 21, 2012 at 1:02 pm
I am sickened to learn that this person holds a powerful position in fish and game and that our tax dollars pay for his employment! It does shed some light though as to why it has been so hard to get them to care enough to read official documents provided to fish and game, proving that the law on owning domestic ferrets as pets is ridiculously unwarrented. Keeping ferrets on the wild animal list incorrectly, is fraudulent and unlike the other 48 states of America, very stupid! If he doesnt even care about wildlife, it's no wonder he doesnt care about our domestic pet family members.
By Lisa Miller on Tue, February 21, 2012 at 9:24 am
This guy is the Persident of the Dept of FISH & GAME. It seems to follow that that person should be a sportsman in order to fully understand all aspects of the decisions that he will be facing. It's a commission who are established to "...maintains native fish, wildlife, plant species and natural communities for their intrinsic and ecological value and their benefits to people. This includes habitat protection and maintenance in a sufficient amount and quality to ensure the survival of all species and natural communities. The department is also responsible for the diversified use of fish and wildlife including recreational, commercial, scientific and educational uses." His personal pursuits have not voilated the mission he is in charge of in the slightest. Nothing he can do will change that voters in CA want these cats protected.
I don not condone what he did, except that he has the legal right to do so. He is an American with RIGHTS just like everyone else reading this site. He broke no laws, get off his case!!
It seems that SO many people in CA have forgotten that we are part of America, we have rights and no one and no group should be permitted to take that away from anybody. Americans are entitled to "Life, liberty & the pursuit of happiness" as afforded to us in our Declaration of Independence. Quit trying to take away his rights, nobody is trying to take away yours.
By DM on Tue, February 21, 2012 at 9:06 am
My son and I took an elk at Fort Hunter Liggett reserve where da commish took one and rightly so. The herds are horrific and the next step is for them to develop disease and starve to death for lack of feed. Furthermore they are fueling cougar and bobcat populations that come south into our back yards. We have the same problem with wild fire control. Because we can't cull forests thousands loose their homes and sometimes their lives. Ecological religious insanity must end and be disgraced and exposed for the imbecility it is.
By B.E. Lantz on Mon, February 20, 2012 at 8:13 pm
As long as it was legal why would anybody have a problem with him shooting it.
Here in Ca. in 1990 when the management of Mountain Lions were taken out of the hands of the Dept.of Fish & Game by the voters, along with this we have had to spend over $600,000,000.00 for habitat restoration for the states specially protected Lion population, this money comes from Bond measures and cigarette tax's at $30,000,000.00 per year!
Is there anybody else that thinks that this money would be better spent on…lets say education or the elderly, or the homeless..
By Dale Tobiassen on Mon, February 20, 2012 at 8:03 pm
Hurray for the DFG. Finally they have a true outdoorsmen who not only is a conservationist, but also a hunter.
When they ban hunting for Cougars in Idaho, and Dan takes one, then you can bitch and moan. Until then, he has done nothing wrong, but take a NON endangered species, legally.
Dan is a bright light to true outdoorsmen, and its about time the DFG had a leader that represented the outdoorsmen, as well as the laws that protect the animals.
Hip Hip Hurray.
By Mike Proctor on Mon, February 20, 2012 at 7:57 pm
Hunting for sport, with a gun, is a cowardly act. There is no pride deserved. It occurred to me to ask, when I saw that photo…which one of those animals is actually dead?
By e torres on Mon, February 20, 2012 at 4:01 pm
The MLPA is a corrupt sham that really does nothing comprehensive to protect the oceans in California except closing a few folks from fishing here and there.
It was the first step of an oil company/wave energy private industry takeover to rezone and indemnify them from future development.
While I personally dont condone killing anything unless you are going to eat it I do honor Richards for having the bravery and resolve to call the corrupt MLPA for what it really is.
I spent months in the involved in the stakeholders group bewildered and sickened by the charade.
By ManFlower on Sun, February 19, 2012 at 9:59 am
The MLPA is ridiculous though, and the majority of Californians have never encountered a lion in their life, and know nothing about them. I love them, but they meed to be managed. Outlawing hunting does nothing but had for the lion population.
By Ryan on Sat, February 18, 2012 at 6:07 pm
You should be showing the photo of him that is appearing on facebook of him holding his prize Mountain Lion that the jerk killed.
It's quite a horrific sight!
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Ride 'em
The top 35 bull riders in the world compete to ride the country's fiercest bucking bulls when the 2013 PBR (Professional Bull Riders) Built Ford Tough Series comes to the Allstate Arena, 6920 N. Mannheim Road, Rosemont. $15-$120. (800) 745-3000 or allstatearena.com. 8 p.m. Saturday, Jan. 12, and 2 p.m. Sunday, Jan. 13
Vivaldi 'Seasons'
Violinist Jennifer Frautschi is the featured soloist in Vivaldi's "The Four Seasons" in an Elgin Symphony Orchestra concert that also includes pieces by Tchaikovsky and Stravinsky. Ignat Solzhenitsyn conducts the weekend performances at both the Prairie Center for the Arts, 201 Schaumburg Court, Schaumburg ($28-$48), then at the Hemmens Cultural Center, 45 Symphony Way, Elgin ($18-$68). (847) 888-4000 or elginsymphony.org. 7:30 p.m. Friday, Jan. 11, in Schaumburg; 7:30 p.m. Saturday, Jan. 12, and 2:30 p.m. Sunday, Jan. 13, in Elgin
A standup guy
The career of comedian John Heffron gained extra exposure after he won season two of NBC's "Last Comic Standing." Catch him this weekend live at the Improv Comedy Showcase and Restaurant, 5 Woodfield Road, Schaumburg. $19-$22 plus a two menu-item purchase. (847) 240-2001 or improv.com. 8 and 10:15 p.m. Friday, Jan. 11; 7 and 9:15 p.m. Saturday, Jan. 12; and 7 p.m. Sunday, Jan. 13
Sing, swing, sing
Jazz vocalist Terry Blaine teams up with pianist Mark Shane and clarinetist Dan Levinson for the concert "Swingin' The Benny Goodman Songbook" at the College of Lake County's Lumber Center for the Performing Arts, 19351 W. Washington St., Grayslake. $16-$31. (847) 543-2300 or clcillinois.edu/tickets. 8 p.m. Friday, Jan. 11
Economic d'ohs!
Chrissy Hogue transforms into seven different women to comically comment on "The Stupid Economy," which returns to the Metropolis Performing Arts Centre, 111 W. Campbell St., Arlington Heights. $30. (847) 577-2121 or metropolisarts.com. 8 p.m. Friday, Jan. 11
Boggy weather
Celebrate the season with indoor crafts, outdoor tours and more as part of the family-friendly Volo Bog's Winterfest Sunday the Volo Bog State Natural Area, 28478 W. Brandenburg Road, Ingleside. (815) 344-1294 or friendsofvolobog.org. Noon to 4 p.m. Sunday, Jan. 13
Sport dangers
The After Hours Film Society screens the documentary "Head Games" exploring head injuries in sports with special guest speakers producer Steve Devick alongwith featured soccer player Mary Rounce and her mother, Laura Rounce, Monday at the Tivoli Theatre, 5021 Highland Ave., Downers Grove. $9; $5 members. (630) 534-4528 or afterhoursfilmsociety.com. 7:30 p.m. Monday, Jan. 14
Fringe on the top
Fringe theater pieces get the spotlight in Curious Theatre Branch's 2013 Rhinoceros Theatre Festival (aka Rhinofest), which features troupes like Boy Girl Boy Girl, The Neofuturists and more performing new and daring works at the Prop Thtr, 3504 N. Elston Ave., Chicago. $15 or pay-what-you-can admission; $12 in advance. Call (773) 539-7802 or visit rhinofest.com for a full schedule. Various shows performed Thursday through Monday from Thursday, Jan. 12, through Sunday, Feb. 17


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Methodist Le Bonheur Healthcare has been named to the Commercial Appeal's "Top Work Places" list for 2013. MLH finished second in the large employer category of companies with more than 500 employees. "This is just another indication that what we're doing to build a strong culture is paying off," said Gary Shorb, CEO of MLH. "Through our 'MLH' Power of One commitments, we are laying a firm foundation. Together, we're not only creating a better experience for patients and families, but were also creating a very special place to work. This is exactly the kind of culture that allows us to operate at our best."
In addition to the 50 Memphis-area businesses and organizations that received a 2013 Top Workplaces Award, nine workplaces were honored with special awards of merit. MLH received the "Appreciation Award." Awards of merit were given in categories where companies stood out for exemplary characteristics. Other awards were given for "New Ideas," "Communication," "Training," "Ethics," "Benefits," and "Leadership."
"This is an incredible honor to be included on this list of top workplaces," said Carol Ross-Spang, senior vice president of Human Resources. "But I think I'm most proud to be recognized as an organization that appreciates our Associates."
"We know that appreciation is the glue that holds teams together and helps our Associates feel valued, fulfilled and respected." Ross-Spang added. "Because this award is based solely on Associate input, this award means so much and affirms that together, we are making a difference."
The newspaper collaborated with the independent research firm, WorkplaceDynamics, to identify companies whose cultures are selected to be among the best. The Top Workplaces were selected based solely on employee feedback. Rankings were categorized by organizations with 35 to 149 employees, 150 to 500 employees, and over-500 employees.
In total, 781 companies were invited to participate and employees of 96 of those companies were surveyed. The surveyed companies employ 66,051 people in the Memphis metropolitan area; 28,594 Memphis employees received surveys and 15,901 responded, either on paper or online. A thousand MLH Associates were randomly selected to participate in the survey.


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Larry Stewart, Los Angeles Times: USC officials have complained to ESPN about a disclosure by ABC's Brent Musburger of what they consider privileged information.
John Koblin, New York Times: Rutgers is facing big cuts in its budget and has cancelled hundreds of classes, but the football team has helped ease the pain (registration).
Doug Segrest, Birmingham News: A look back at the winners and losers of a memorable weekend.
Steven M. Sipple, Lincoln Journal Star: Nebraska's Bill Callahan is defending his conservative play calling against USC.
Robbie Andreu, Gainesville Sun: Turns out some comments made by ESPN's Lee Corso got the Florida defense fired up for its game against Tennessee.
Phil Stukenborg, Commercial Appeal: Joe Lee Dunn was fired as defensive coordinator at Memphis (registration).
Mike Huguenin, Orlando Sentinel: One thing is clear after "Showdown Saturday." USC, although young, is to be feared.
Tony Barnhart, Atlanta Journal-Constitution: The SEC is showing its strength and the ACC is in a world of hurt (registration).
Jim Young, Greensboro News-Record: North Carolina State coach Chuck Amato wants to know why the critics are always picking on him.
Susan Miller Degnan, Miami Herald: A 1-2 start appears to be having an impact on prep players who are considering Miami (registration).
Bill Sanders, Atlanta Journal-Constitution: Miami coach Larry Coker was a no-show Monday at a gathering in Atlanta at which he was to be the keynote speaker (registration).
Chris Dempsey, Denver Post: There is little to like about the play of Big 12 teams thus far.
Terry Hutchens, Indianapolis Star: Indiana is using a high-tech device to monitor players for concussions.
Doug Lesmerises, Cleveland Plain Dealer: Crewcut Charlie Weis doesn't have much practice licking wounds, but his Notre Dame team was left bloodied by Michigan.
Jake Curtis, San Francisco Chronicle: USC is very hard to please and Duke is just glad to be alive.
Ken Goe, Oregonian: Washington State quarterback Alex Brink is taking the brunt of the criticism for the Cougars' struggles.
Desmond Conner, Hartford Courant: The Big East was once thought to be unworthy of its BCS affiliation. Now it has the upper hand.
Stephen Tsai, Honolulu Advertiser: Hawaii defensive coordinator Jerry Glanville missed the bus after the Rainbows' 42-13 victory over Nevada Las Vegas.
Rob Biertempfel, Tribune-Review: My Space and Facebook continue to present problems for coaches and athletic administrators.


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That is exactly what I told my DD. I said it was ok to be mad at him and I explained to her that suicide is selfish because, while their pain is gone, ours in overwhelming. She just goes day by day and we talk alot.
... The sad part is, my ex husband, her father died exactly one month before her friend did this so she has layers of grief to work through.
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May 24, 2011 > Local teacher authors coming-of-age novel
Last year, was a busy year for Risha Krishna, Ethnic Studies teacher at Mission San Jose High School (MSJHS) in Fremont. Between a three-week trip on a Fulbright Scholarship to Germany and a one-week seminar to Cambridge University in England, sponsored by the Gilder Lehrman Foundation, her plate seemed full. Added to those, was a previous excursion to the American South with 30 other Bay Area teachers to retrace the footsteps of Martin Luther King, Jr. and learn more about the Civil Rights movement.But somehow, she still managed to find the time to realize a dream - publication of her first book, The Curry Club, co-authored with Trevor Neeb whom she had met during grad school days at Stanford.Logistically, working on the book proved a bit problematic, since Neeb lived in San Diego. However, they managed to get beyond the geographic constraints and as needed, Neeb flew up to the Bay Area to work with Krishna at the Stanford and Milpitas libraries.The plot of the book follows the main protagonist, Ashwara, and her friend Maria, from age eight to adulthood, during the 1980's in Southern California. Ashwara emigrates from India to the U.S.; Maria is a well-to-do Latina girl. Their friendship blossoms across cultural lines and they learn what it means to be hyphenated Americans (Indo-American or Hispanic-American). "Although it's generally based on experiences I have heard from students over the years, it is a fictionalized coming of age novel for young readers, geared for tweens and teens," says Krishna.She actually began writing the book back in 2005 while in South Africa for five weeks, on another Fulbright Scholarship trip. During her time there, Krishna kept a journal, which spurred on her interest in writing.The book was completed by 2009, and the process of finding a children's publisher kicked into gear. After the initial book deal fell through, plans were put aside for a while as the demands of life and work took over. Two years later Krishna and Neeb achieved their goal, when AuthorHouse agreed to publish the book."The general theme of 'fitting in' appeals to anyone, anytime in your life," says Krishna. "Ashwara and Maria are proud to be their ethnicities but are not governed by their cultures."The book's title pertains to the club created by Ashwara's mother, who is worried that her daughter is becoming too American. She invites other Indian mothers and their daughters to learn about traditional cooking, food, and music. But, soon it evolves into a multi-cultural group, as other non-Indian girls and their moms join in to participate. Krishna adds, "The girls are all coming of age and see that we are all quite the same in many respects and learn that challenges can be overcome through camaraderie."Several years later, as Ashwara and Maria graduate high school, they have to deal with some adversity when making decisions about college. Stereotypes are confronted, particularly those directed at Maria, by people who incorrectly assume she is from East L.A. or Mexico, just because she is Hispanic."The bi-cultural [and even multi-cultural] theme of the book shows we're not part of an isolated bubble," says Krishna. "It shows how you can be friends with anyone and embrace adversity."In the classes Krishna teaches, many of her students are first and second generation Americans. She relates, "After 9/11 happened, I decided to create the Ethnic Studies Program at MSJHS, with lessons that are empowering, engaging and use critical thinking skills. It's been my life story to get involved."This summer, Krishna and Principal Sandra Prairie will be taking nine students to Germany in a cultural student exchange through the University of Gottingen. The students will be staying with a family for one week and interacting with German high school students, who will hopefully visit Fremont next year.Principal Prairie comments, "Risha Krishna is one of those teachers that is a principal's dream - inquisitive, professional who can melt the walls of her classroom and bring the world in. A book is a natural step; seems just like breathing."Krishna is open for book talks and can be reached via Facebook. Her book is available at Amazon.com.Here are two upcoming appearances:Risha Krishna: Author of The Curry ClubThursday, May 264 p.m. - 5 p.m.Fremont Main Library, Fukaya Room2400 Stevenson Blvd.(510) 745-1401Sunday, June 52 p.m.Half Price Books43473 Boscell Rd., Fremont(510) 744-0333


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Anti-capitalism protesters from the Occupy movement have begun a new protest in the City of London.
It is part of a global day of action seeing thousands of people rallying in cities including Moscow, New York, Athens and Madrid, organisers said.
Several hundred people gathered outside St Paul's Cathedral for a rally before "visiting the 1%" at the offices of some of the largest firms in the financial heart of the capital.
Later the group pitched tents outside the Bank of England and said they were deciding whether to defy police orders to leave the site.
City of London Police said that it had arrested four people over public order offences connected to the protest.
Occupy said they have planned another protest for this Tuesday, which will target the British Bankers' Association.
Occupy London supporter David Lincoln said: "The Bank of England stands right at the intersection of finance and government.
"In the light of Bank governor Mervyn King's recent comments about 'vested interests' standing in the way of reform of the financial sector, it is clear that that balance in the UK is fundamentally skewed.
"Hundreds of people gathering by the Bank of England is a powerful symbol of how things have to change."
The demonstrators were closely shadowed by City of London Police, who attempted to contain them on several occasions, leading to a number of minor skirmishes.
A police spokesman said no arrests had been made and that the protesters had been given a deadline by which they had to leave the area outside the Bank of England.
"We have a proportionate response in place," he said.
Protesters filled a tent with balloons and floated it above the site where they were previously camped for several months.
It comes more than six months after members of campaign group Occupy London were prevented from occupying the square in heart of the City of London.
Instead, activists set up camp outside St Paul's Cathedral just yards away from the Stock Exchange and remained there for four and a half months.
At the start of May police arrested five people after between 50 and 100 anti-capitalist protesters set up a temporary camp outside the London Stock Exchange following May Day demonstrations.
They moved into Paternoster Square with tents and supplies on 1 May, but were forced to leave by officers several hours later.
Occupy protesters were joined by members of Spanish protest group Indignados and Take the Square.
An Occupy spokesman said: "Nowhere in Europe is the unequal distribution of wealth as striking as in the UK.
"The richest 1,000 persons, just 0.005% of the adult population, increased their wealth by £155bn over the last three years.
"That is enough for themselves alone to pay off the entire budget deficit and still leave them with £30bn to spare.
"'We're all in this together' never rang so hollow. Whilst the rest of the country is being crippled by austerity, the very same people who caused the crisis are now sitting on wealth even greater than what they had before the crash?"
St Paul's Cathedral remained open to tourists.
There were some minor skirmishes between protesters and police as they marched through the City.
Officers had briefly encircled the protest after it moved down Fleet Street and into Fetter Lane, causing some protesters to break through the police line.


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Fun with Italian Flour
The other day I stopped into a Whole Foods store in the hope that I could find some white rye. I couldn't, in fact the person I spoke to had no idea what white rye was. But there on the shelf were bags of King Arthur Italian Flour. Wow! No shipping. But what to make? I decided on Ciabatta. Specifically Hamelman's Ciabatta with Poolish (p. 107 of Bread). Only after I had mixed everything up did I remember that the Italian Flour bag had a note recommending less water for this flour than others - and I had even accidentally put in around an extra ounce of water. So it was wet. I just decided to go with it instead of adding more flour. It was too wet to take out of the bowl to stretch and fold, so I used the in the bowl method. Then I decided it was too wet to move it around too much so after the first rise, I poured it (yes poured) into a dutch oven and let it do the second rise there. Then baked with the top on for 30 minutes, and the top off for 25. What did I get? Well it looks a bit like a three pound muffin.
with an extremely blistery top:
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A number of new products from Kia continue to help the automaker post record sales months. In July, Kia pulled off a 5.6-percent increase compared to the same period last year. Hyundai was also up, posting a 4.1-percent jump last month compared to July 2011, even with supply shortages of a few models.
Hyundai – 62,021 units, up 4.1 percent
The Sonata was Hyundai's volume leader last month with 20,978 units sold, a 0.5-percent increase compared to July 2011. Next in line was the Elantra with 18,512 sold, a gain of 21.9 percent. The just-released Azera full-size sedan found its way to 977 customers, while the Accent was down 24.2 percent (5257 units) due to supply issues, and the soon-to-be replaced Santa Fe also slipped (4619 units, down 43.1 percent). The smaller Tucson crossover, however, did better with 4062 units sold, an increase of 16.8 percent, while the Veracruz was also up (1370 units, 37.4 percent).
Kia – 48,074 units, up 5.6 percent
The Rio may be small, but it posted the biggest percentage gain for Kia last month with 3646 units sold, compared to just 1011 units sold last July. The Optima experienced a 96.6-percent jump compared to July 2011, with 13,317 units sold. The Kia Soul hatch was flat, with 10,063 units sold and the Forte (sedan, hatchback, and coupe) found its way home to 6216 customers, a decrease of 17.8 percent. Kias SUVs also didn't fare too well. The Sportage was down 8.3 percent (3606 units), while the Sorento (10,045 units) was down 24.3 percent, with 10,045 units sold.
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Attorney General Lockyer Announces Agreement with Lorillard to Fight Unlawful Internet Tobacco Sales
Protocols Aim to Cut Off Supply to Illegal Cigarette Traffickers
(SACRAMENTO) – Attorney General Bill Lockyer today announced Lorillard Tobacco Company (Lorillard) has reached an agreement with California and 32 other jurisdictions to implement measures to prevent the illegal sale of its cigarettes over the Internet and through the mail.
"Internet and mail order cigarette sales are a public health threat because they help put a deadly product in our children's hands," said Lockyer. "That is why I have gone to court to put online providers out of business in California and have worked with my fellow Attorneys General to take other steps to combat the problem. This agreement will help fight this danger to our kids by helping to cut the supply lines to unscrupulous cigarette traffickers. Lorillard deserves praise for stepping up to do the right thing."
The Lorillard protocols require: termination of cigarette shipments to any Lorillard direct customer the Attorneys General have found to be engaging in illegal Internet or mail order sales; reduction in the supply to any direct customer found by the Attorneys General to be engaged in the illegal re-sale of Lorillard cigarettes to Internet vendors; and suspension from the company's incentive programs any retailer found by the Attorneys General to be engaging in such illegal sales.
The protocols are being adopted nationwide and voluntarily by Lorillard pursuant to an agreement reached with 33 Attorneys General across the country, including Lockyer. A similar agreement was reached in January 2006 with Philip Morris USA.
"Lorillard always has supported compliance with laws dealing with the illegal sale of our products, and has instituted measures to punish those who are determined to be in violation of the law," said Ronald S. Milstein, Senior Vice President, Legal and External Affairs of Lorillard. "We are pleased to enter this voluntary accord with the Attorneys General to provide a framework for further cooperation with law enforcement and add additional safeguards against the illegal sale of our products."
The Attorneys General believe virtually all Internet sales of cigarettes are illegal because the sellers violate one or more state and federal laws, including: state age verification laws; the federal Jenkins Act, which requires that such sales be reported to state tax authorities; state laws prohibiting or regulating the direct shipment of cigarettes to consumers; state and federal tax laws; federal mail and wire fraud statutes; the federal Contraband Cigarette Trafficking Act; and the federal anti-racketeering law.
Many sales made by foreign web sites also violate federal smuggling, cigarette labeling and money laundering laws.
Internet tobacco sales, according to the Attorneys General, not only violate the law, they also endanger public health, especially children's health. Numerous studies have shown that the earlier an individual begins to smoke, the more likely that person will become addicted. That makes age verification through photo IDs, and other practices to curb youth access, critical safeguards in protecting children from a lifetime of smoking.
Unfortunately, while "brick-and-mortar" retailers check photo IDs to prevent children from buying cigarettes, the vast majority of Internet sellers have wholly deficient, or nonexistent, age verification systems. In addition, most Internet vendors illegally fail to charge taxes. That reduces the cost to consumers, and research has shown that lower cigarette prices lead to increased smoking rates, particularly among youth.
Today's agreement is another major development in a multi-pronged effort by Attorneys General to restrict the payment, shipment and supply operations of illegal Internet cigarette traffickers. In March 2005, Attorneys General announced major credit card companies had agreed to stop processing credit card payments for Internet retailers. In addition, DHL, UPS and FedEx all agreed to stop shipping packages for vendors engaged in illegal direct sales.
Separate from the multi-state effort, Lockyer in 2003 filed lawsuits against six online sellers. The enforcement actions ultimately put five of the companies out of business in California and enjoined the sixth from doing business in the state unless it complied with state and federal laws. Additionally, the companies paid a combined $5 million in civil penalties.
In addition to Lockyer, the Attorneys General from the following jurisdictions joined the Lorillard agreement: Alabama, Arkansas, Connecticut, Delaware, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, Massachusetts, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, Northern Mariana Islands, Oklahoma, Oregon, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Utah, Vermont, Washington, Washington D.C., West Virginia and Wyoming.


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Wörner: "A particular honour and a demanding challenge"
As of 1 March 2007, the German Aerospace Center (DLR) has had a new chairman in the person of Dr Johann-Dietrich Wörner. In his acceptance speech, Wörner said, "This new position presents a particular honour and a demanding challenge, both of which I readily accept. In studying air and space travel, transportation, and energy, we explore the very zenith of science. Here we have the opportunity to proactively shape the future; today we are already creating the jobs of tomorrow, so that we will be able to compete internationally," Wörner went on to explain.
"As an engineer, I would like to infuse the great research institution that is the DLR with fresh energy and represent its mission as Germany's space agency on an international scale."
Wörner, who was president of the Technical University of Darmstadt for nearly 12 years, was elected to this position by the governing board of DLR on 22 November 2006. He succeeds Dr Sigmar Wittig, who led DLR for five years and has retired.
Born in 1954, Wörner became Professor for Heavy Construction at the Technical University of Darmstadt in 1990 and leader of the Examination and Testing Centre. Since 1995 he has also been the Professor for Statistics and Dynamics. Since 2002 he has been a member of the governing board of DLR. Originally from Kassel, Wörner is married and has three children.
The tenure of previous DLR Chairman Wittig concluded after five years on 28 February 2007. Wittig continues to hold his position as Chair of the Advisory Panel for the European Space Agency (ESA). He will also continue to dedicate his time to his duties as the Ordinarius for Thermal Electrical Generation at the University of Karlsruhe (Technical College), where he was Rector until he assumed his post at DLR.
On the appointment of his successor, Professor Wittig commented: "As a member of the college council for the Technical University of Darmstadt, I have known Professor Wörner for many years, and I am extraordinarily pleased with his appointment. In Professor Wörner, the governing board of DLR has found someone who knows the business profoundly well. On behalf on all my colleagues at DLR, I wish him great success and much happiness, which is also necessary element in science and research."


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by Shendude - 10/11/2012 5:31 PM
So, I've not been posting much recently, and I feel like I ought to rectify that. I think I'd like ot start by reviving one of the dormant stories I was working on, and was wondering which one I should use, and further which BRANCH of said I ought to use.
The choices are:
-Marvel Super-Hookers (start:http://www.superstories.net/addventure/Chapter.aspx?ID=24), involving a version of the Marvel universe where most superheroes never were, their girlfriends or other significant female supporting cast members having become such instead.
More importantly, superpowers in females is linked with high libidos, and prostitution has been legalized, so most of the heroines are working girls, while many female villainesses have chosen to reform and join them.
-DC Super-Hookers (start: http://www.superstories.net/addventure/Chapter.aspx?ID=29), which is essentially the same, but in the DCU instead.
-Marvel Sexheroes (start: http://www.superstories.net/addventure/Chapter.aspx?ID=220), wherein the Marvel Universe is turned into a hypersexualized version of itself, with a constantly horny, pansexual, and polyamorous population that's 90% female and without
any taboos.
-DC Sexheroes (start: http://www.superstories.net/addventure/Chapter.aspx?ID=2549), the DC version thereof.
-Superman's NEW Cousin, Supernymph branch (start: http://www.superstories.net/addventure/Chapter.aspx?ID=1727), wherein a version of Supergirl from an alternate universe arrives on regular DCU Earth. I'm only interested in one parituclar branch, wherein the
alternate universe is hypersexualized. Partway through it took a turn for the femdom, with her alternate origins being a ruse; I'm gonna branch off from before that.
-Battle of the Blondes (start: http://www.superstories.net/addventure/Chapter.aspx?ID=1837), wherein a cosmic Pervert forces the blonde beauties of the Marvel Universe to be as slutty as they can.
-An End To Villainy (start: http://www.superstories.net/addventure/Chapter.aspx?ID=2778), wherein in a mixed Marvel/DC Universe, a cosmic Pervert turns all villains into sexy, slutty, submissive females, desperate to serve their former foes.
by C.King - 10/12/2012 12:54 PM
This One:
An End To Villainy (start: http://www.superstories.net/addventure/Chapter.aspx?ID=2778), wherein in a mixed Marvel/DC Universe, a cosmic Pervert turns all villains into sexy, slutty, submissive females, desperate to serve their former foes.


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A record guinea pig theft at Warracknabeal Lions Club Flora and Fauna Park has left about half a dozen cavy parents without their litters.
Thieves broke into the guinea pig enclosure at the park two weeks ago and stole about 20 baby guinea pigs, leaving their parents behind.
The theft occurred after hours.
Warracknabeal Lions Club president Maurie Parsons said it was the first time such a large number of guinea pigs had been stolen.
"We have had two or three guinea pigs go at different times, but this is the biggest lot," he said.
"People only have to ring someone at the Lions club and we will give them a guinea pig.
"Some give us a donation and some don't.
"It's just disappointing that this is happening; vandals are wrecking the facilities.
"This is the society we live in at the moment.
"They even wreck the play equipment.
"We are all volunteers and we don't have that much money to keep on repairing the facilities."
The stolen baby guinea pigs were due to be in an animal nursery at the Warracknabeal Agricultural and Pastoral Society Show on October 11.
"The society usually takes half a dozen guinea pigs over there and gives them away to people who want them at the end," Mr Parsons said.
"It's good publicity for the show."
Warracknabeal First Constable Teilah Morrissey, a guinea pig owner, said the vandalism and theft had left people angry and disgusted.
"The park is a community-run organisation, so volunteers look after all the animals and repairs," she said.
"So whenever someone vandalises the facilities, it takes money out the town.
"This is not the first time the enclosure has been damaged."
First Const Morrissey said anyone with information could call Warracknabeal Police Station on 5398 1044 or Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000.


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"Penn State: Asking the Right Questions"
San Diego Union Tribune -- The decisive action taken by Penn State's board of trustees in firing coach Joe Paterno represents an important first step in dealing with the emerging sexual abuse scandal, but it should hardly be construed as more than that. The important and difficult issues still remain on the horizon, and it is crucial that we understand what the important questions are.
For many, the important issue is to punish – quickly and decisively, perhaps even harshly – as an indication of intolerance for such abuse. Some, whose watchfulness and concern about abuse was not previously in evidence, may be among the loudest voices in calling for retribution. Yet such calls can overshadow the more important issues. (Full Story)
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Features, features and features
- initial version: 2012-07-25 (mmaslano, mitr, t8m, jreznik)
- latest revision based on feedback from FUDCon Lawrence
The aim of this proposal is to lower the barrier to propose Features, to avoid situation where unknown/not proposed changes appears later in the release cycle and leads to conflicts/slip and other issues. But also not to flood FESCo with overwhelming amount of Features and let them concentrate more on important complex Features with system wide impact. The community review is part of proposed process. The "Feature process" becomes internal planning tool and will be referred as "Planning process" (even it's difficult to split planning/marketing for truly open and community based project). Selected planning features will featured as marketing Features to create release announcements, talking points etc.
Categories of features
- "self contained" features
- "complex features" with wide impact
Self contained features
The self contained feature could be one very isolated package or feature with limited scope, for example adding group of leaf packages or coordinated effort within SIG with limited impact outside SIG functional area. Enhancement of one package without impact on other package is also self contained feature.
Public announcement of the new self contained feature will help to co-operate on the feature and extend proposed feature visibility. Feature owners can find help or useful comments. Those features don't have to be thoroughly reviewed by FESCo, which means more time for FESCo on the second category.
- Formal correctness of filled feature template will be checked by Feature Wrangler and Feature will be announced on Fedora Devel Announce list.
- No docs process (optional), only release notes advertisement.
- Aggregated list of features will be added to FESCo agenda after a week (or more) on mailing list.
- In case of no complaints (possible breakage/conflicts, coordination needed) on Fedora Devel Announce mailing list/or from FESCo members, FESCo will approve those features without more investigation about the scope etc. Every team on Fedora devel can share their views and escalate feature to FESCo to go through the regular Feature process. Feature owner could be asked to provide more details/or move the feature to the "complex features" category. FESCo members are encouraged to ask questions on the mailing list instead of waiting for the meeting.
- Self contained features follows the same schedule for the Feature Submission deadline as complex features (to reasonably bump them into the "complex" category).
Complex features with system-wide impact
This features are system-wide/defaults changing features or critical path components. They can impact hundreds of packages (upgrade of gcc, glibc, change default from python2 -> python3, UsrMove, etc.). FESCo must have more time to review those features, help feature maintainer with defining the scope or help with contacting other impacted teams.
Optionally, for selected features, one FESCo member/or trusted community member within the functional area (shepherd) is assigned to offer his help to maintainer and to communicate status of the feature with FESCo. Problems like postponing the decision about feature should disappear because someone will be in contact with maintainer.
- Formal correctness of filled feature template will be checked by Feature Wrangler and Feature will be announced on Fedora Devel Announce list.
- After a week on mailing list FESCo will discuss the feature on their meeting.
- Optionally, the feature could be assigned to one of FESCo members/or trusted community member within the functional area, who will help with process in Fedora (technical help like where to ask for different koji buildroot, it can also point out that buildroot will be neccessary).
- The feature can be accepted, but FESCo member will follow on status of the feature until release of Fedora. (We should be able to track the real status, better than with 80% which magically grow to 100% during Beta freeze. Also using green, yellow, red instead of % will be improvement. -- --Jreznik (talk) 11:30, 12 February 2013 (UTC) let it here?)
- The accepted feature will be switched to new state and will be waiting for re-review in case of problem or Beta freeze when is status of features reviewed.
- Fedora QA reviews announced Features on Devel Announce list to commit to testing of the Feature and/or adjust release criteria in case of need.
- Feature Freeze as a hard deadline for complex features, to allow integration and possible mass rebuilds etc.
What must be defined or added into current system:
Define Scope sections more clearly:
- release engineering impact (mass rebuilds etc.) - ticket to rel-engs, to understand impact of proposed feature, to schedule mass rebuilds for more features together etc.
- mass rebuild deadline
- backup solution for contingency plan (remember rewrite of anaconda!)
- Whether the feature is release blocking or not could be decided during review of the feature. Blocker could be anaconda, but not features which can use contingency plan.
New Feature Template:
All sections of this template are required for review by FESCo or only for Features to be approved by FESCo?
Required fields: Summary, Owner, Current Status, Scope (list of dependencies), ...
- Who's actually responsible for work on broken things related to the new feature?
- Feature templates - must be all field filled even for self-contained features?
- Add into trac more statuses for tracking features or track the whole process in Fedora Program Management trac not to pollute FESCo trac and allow different teams to access it (for rel-eng, QA acks etc).
Planning process
The idea is to split internal planning and tracking process for feature and marketing process.
- "Feature process" is being renamed to "Planning process"
- Marketing/docs teams to prepare list of "Features" communicated to users/press


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- Search efforts are set to resume Wednesday morning, authorities said
- Data storage company co-founder was aboard with four passengers
- "We've narrowed it down," says Valley County Sheriff's Office Lt. Dan Smith
- The plane was over central Idaho on Sunday when it disappeared from radar
The search for a plane that was carrying a software company president and members of his family when it disappeared from radar over Idaho was set to resume Wednesday morning after would-be rescuers were forced to suspend their efforts because of nightfall, authorities said.
Search and rescue teams detected a weak signal from an emergency locator transmitter that allowed authorities to narrow the search to the area south of Johnson Creek, near Yellow Pine, where the plane is believed to have gone down.
"We've done a ping on the cell phones, and we've narrowed it down to a 4- or 5-square-mile area that we're searching right now," Valley County Sheriff's Office Lt. Dan Smith told CNN affiliate KGO.
Dale Smith had left Baker City, Oregon, with his son, his son's wife, his daughter and her fiance, said Rand Kriech. He and Smith founded SerialTek, a San Jose, California, company that develops hardware and software data storage tools.
Smith's wife and another daughter were in Cascade, Idaho, on Tuesday awaiting news about the search, Kriech said.
The Smiths were in Dale Smith's single-engine Beechcraft Bonanza en route to Butte, Montana. About 3 p.m. Sunday, as they were flying over central Idaho at an altitude of 9,000 feet, the 51-year-old executive reported engine trouble and asked controllers in Salt Lake City for the coordinates of the Johnson Creek Air Strip, the sheriff's spokesman said.
They never made it.
Snow hampered search efforts, carried out Monday by helicopters from the Idaho Army National Guard.
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About 40 search and rescue teams, some using ATVs and snowmobiles, combed the area Tuesday and were expected to resume their efforts at first light on Wednesday, authorities said.
Repeated attempts to fly into the area of the last known contact, about a mile east of the Johnson Creek Air Strip, were unsuccessful Monday because of poor weather, the Valley County Sheriff's Office said.
"If there is anyone who is able to survive a difficult situation, that would be Dale," San Jose Mormon Bishop Jed Dyreng told KGO of his fellow churchgoer. "When there was Hurricane Katrina, Dale was the first one to get in his plane, grab a bunch of members of his church and go out and help."
"We are a little bit worried," said the bishop's wife, Ann Dyreng, who flew with Smith to Utah in October. "He's an engineer brain, and he's very meticulous about doing all that. He's meticulous in all things he does."
Smith co-founded SerialTek in 2007, serving as president and chief technologist. It employs 25 people, said Kriech, who described Smith as a religious man who had done humanitarian work with the group Medecins sans Frontieres.
"He's an engineer's engineer," Kriech said Tuesday. "If anyone can get out of this situation, it's Dale. Hopefully, he laid the plane down safely. That's what we are hoping and praying for this morning. He's a good man, and we're hoping to see him back here."


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PHILADELPHIA -- The Phillies made a surprising announcement Thursday afternoon when they revealed general partner and president David Montgomery is taking an immediate medical leave of absence while he recovers from jaw cancer surgery.
Pat Gillick has assumed Montgomery's responsibilities.
Gillick, who served as the organization's general manager from
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non-waiver Trade Deadline.
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marketing director and director of sales, before becoming executive vice
president following the 1981 season.
Montgomery became chief operating officer in 1992. He acquired an ownership interest in the team in 1994.
Montgomery is very popular with his employees. Former players often
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organization, regardless of their stature or importance.
Montgomery grew up in the Roxborough section of Philadelphia. He
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Pennsylvania in '68. Montgomery received his MBA from the Wharton
School in '70.
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Tongue-in-cheek, but a must read.
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.c...tery-is-fixed/Why theres a 100 percent chance the NBA lottery is fixed
Tongue-in-cheek, but a must read.
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.c...tery-is-fixed/Why theres a 100 percent chance the NBA lottery is fixed
There are two types of people in this world:
1)Morning people
2)Normal people
Hasn't the fact that the Knicks have only won one playoff series since 1999 shut up the conspiracy theorists?
Variatio delectat - Cicero
I don't think it is fixed every year but I think it has been fixed in the past, ie the year the Knicks got Ewing (dog eared/frozen envelope) and the year the Magic got Penny Hardaway.
When I see the 2016 Reds, I see a 100 loss team and no direction.
Cavs get the no 1 pick again. Magic 2nd, Wizards 3rd.
Nerlens Noel is being discussed for the no 1 pick, which could pay HUGE dividends for the Cavs in the long run instead of an immediate impact.
Dream scenario: Take Noel and wait for him to come back around Christmas. The Cavs will likely still be bad even with Noel progressing along in the second half. Puts them in a good spot for another top 5 pick as well and can continue to build a solid supporting cast to make a run at bringing LeBron back after 2014 when he can opt out. Gives him something he never had when in Cleveland the first time.
PG-Kyrie Irving
SG-Dion Waiters
SF-LeBron James
PF-Julius Randle(?)/Tristan Thompson
C-Nerlens Noel
jmac (05-21-2013)
Championships for MY teams in my lifetime:
Cincinnati Reds - 75, 76, 90
Chicago Blackhawks - 10, 13, 15
University of Kentucky - 78, 96, 98, 12
Chicago Bulls - 91, 92, 93, 96, 97, 98
Everything that happens before Death is what counts.
― Ray Bradbury, Something Wicked This Way Comes
This is going to be the weakest draft in a long time. The fact that this years number one overall pick is going to be at least THREE years away from making a major contribution says something, add in that teams are looking at drafting him coming off a torn ACL and basically tanking to get a shot at next years lottery, which is going to be one of the best (Harrison twins, Wiggins, Randle)
Going back to 2010 there have been two players drafted to make an all star game. Maybe the NBA needs to implement a baseball style rule where you can enter the draft right out of HS or spend 3 years in college. Because the way it looks now the only thing the lottery guarantees a team is a hefty contract.
Mock me.... if you will.
Cavs - Nerlens Noel, C, Kentucky
Since '09-'10, Anderson Varejao has played in a grand total of 81 games. Is Tyler Zeller really the long term answer?
Ceiling: Alonzo Mourning.
Floor: A healthy Pervis Ellison.
Magic - Ben McLemore, SG, Kansas
Yes, Jameer Nelson isn't getting any younger, but I don't see the Magic drafting Trey Burke at #2.
Wizards - Otto Porter, SF, Georgetown
Local hero fills an obvious need.
Bobcats/Hornets - Anthony Bennett, PF, UNLV
The Bobcats need front court scoring more than anything else. A better ball-handling Larry Johnson? It wouldn't surprise me at all.
As I've stated many times, this franchise needs to start swinging for the fences.
Suns - Victor Oladipo, G, Indiana
The Suns desperately need athleticism and defense at the wing positions. Oladipo is a great place to start.
Pelicans - Trey Burke, PG, Michigan
Greivis Vasquez may be leaving via free agency following the upcoming season. Burke should improve the games of Anthony Davis and every other Pelican.
Kings - Alex Len, C, Maryland
The eternal quest for an impact player to play behind/alongside D.Cousins and J.Thompson may well end here.
Pistons - Michael Carter-Williams, PG, Syracuse
MCW will allow B.Knight to play off the ball. For that reason alone, he's worth the pick here.
Timberwolves - C.J. McCollum, G, Lehigh
Likened to Stephen Curry, the former Lehigh star should fit in well alongside of Rubio - or occasionally spelling him.
Trail Blazers - Jamaal Franklin, G/F, San Diego State
One of the league's worst benches finally receives much-needed help in the form of this intriguing 6'5" player with a freakish 6'11" wingspan.
76ers - Cody Zeller, PF, Indiana
No, Zeller is not a Center, at least a full-time one, but should make a seamless transition to PF.
Thunder - Rudy Gobert, C, Cholet Basket (France)
While considered a project with a 7'9" wingspan, something tells me that Gobert may already be more productive than K.Perkins and H.Thabeet. Granted, that's not saying much.
Mavericks - Dario Saric, SF/PF, KK Cibona (Croatia)
It's time for the Mavs to start thinking about an heir apparent to Dirk Nowitzki, albeit one who should be able to contribute sooner, rather than later.
Jazz - Dennis Schroeder, PG, New Yorker Phantoms Braunschweig (Germany)
The PGs on the Jazz roster are all either Free Agents, ineffective, or both.
Bucks - Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, SG, Georgia
With Jennings, Ellis and Redick unlikely to return, the back-court must be addressed.
Celtics - Shabazz Muhammad, SF, UCLA
A proverbial feast-or-famine player who shouldn't fall further than this. Ainge will worry about where Muhammad fits in later.
Hawks - Sergey Karasev, SF, Triumph Lyubertsy (Russia)
As one of the premier shooters in this draft, Karasev will undoubtedly fit in somewhere.
Hawks - Gorgui Dieng, C, Louisville
While there are Centers with higher upside still on the board, Dieng gets the nod here due to his ability to contribute right away. More importantly, Al Horford finally moves to his natural PF position.
Cavs - Giannis Antetokounmpo, F, Filathlitikos Div II Greece (Greece)
Cavs grab the best SF still on the board - and one with a tremendous upside as a Point Forward type.
Bulls - Allen Crabbe, SG, California
Crabbe's game resembles the departed Richard Hamilton with one exception: Crabbe has more range on his jumper. Thus, the Bulls won't hesitate for one second if Crabbe is available at # 20.
Jazz - Steven Adams, C/PF, Pittsburgh
Given the fact that both Al Jefferson and Paul Milsap are unrestricted free agents, it is a safe bet that the Jazz will go big here.
Nets - Jeff Withey, C, Kansas
Withey helps to solve two problems in Brooklyn:
1)The lack of a backup center.
2)Putrid interior defense.
Pacers - Tony Mitchell, SF/PF, North Texas
The Pacers face two major potential problems this off season:
1) Both David West and "Psycho T" will be free agents, with at least one unlikely to return.
2)Danny Granger's status moving forward.
Likened to Josh Smith, Mitchell is the choice here. At the very least, Mitchell should help to improve the Pacer's bench, which may likely prove to be the team's undoing against a deep Heat team.
Knicks - Reggie Bullock, SG/SF, North Carolina
With or without J.R Smith, the Knicks can certainly use more shooters to space the floor.
Clippers - Kelly Olynyk, C/F, Gonzaga
Projected as big stretch 4/5, Olynyk provides needed depth for both B.Griffin and D.Jordan, adding another dimension to the Clipper attack.
Timberwolves - Tim Hardaway, Jr., SG, Michigan
Why gamble on a Center project when a player with a high ceiling is still on the board? Plus, Hardaway may well be able to swing over to SF on occasion.
Good value pick.
Nuggets - Tony Snell, G, New Mexico
At 6-7, and an excellent catch-and-shoot jump shooter, Snell provides Denver with a valuable weapon that was missing once Aaron Afflalo was traded away.
Spurs - Mason Plumlee, C/F, Duke
Not a flashy pick by any means, but Plumlee, if he's able to provide significant productive minutes behind Duncan and Splitter, will prove to be a solid pick.
Thunder - Deshaun Thomas, F, Ohio State
After going with a project at #12, the Thunder go for immediate help. They should get it with a match up nightmare in Thomas, who should provide a fascinating option off of the Thunder Bench.
Both Thomas and PJ III emerging into solid rotation players is a frightening prospect for Thunder opponents.
Suns - C.J. Leslie, SF/PF, North Carolina State
Projected as a SF, Leslie, who possesses tremendous potential, provides much needed athleticism to a Suns front line woefully deficient in that area.
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There are two types of people in this world:
1)Morning people
2)Normal people
I don't follow the NBA closely, and admittedly didn't follow Kentucky that closely this year. Is Nerlens Noel really #1 pick in the draft good? I didn't see much of an offensive game, nor much potential for it to develop beyond put backs and dunks. I understand the elite shot blocking.
Hugs, smiling, and interactive Twitter accounts, don't mean winning baseball. Until this community understands that we are cursed to relive the madness.
A healthy Pervis Ellison is a pretty high floor. The only season he started more than 60 NBA games (his only healthy season), he averaged 20 points, 11 rebounds, 3 assists and almost 3 blocks.
That's still a good call on your part. Folks tend to forget that when Ellison was at least relatively healthy, he was a very productive player, at least on a per-minute basis, even though he played out of position for years.
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There are two types of people in this world:
1)Morning people
2)Normal people
IMHO, this draft features more intriguing prospects than given credit for and may produce some solid rotation players.
But as for star/superstar potential, IMO, Noel, McLemore, Oladipo, and Bennett are head and shoulders above the rest, unless Trey Burke really is the next Chris Paul.
There are two types of people in this world:
1)Morning people
2)Normal people
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nba/2112/nerlens-noelSources tell ESPN.com that the Cavs still have Kentucky PF/C Nerlens Noel atop their big board
[URL="http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nba/2130/player?r=1"]http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nba/2130/player?r=1[/URLScouts are comparing Indiana PF/C Cody Zeller to Chris Bosh and LaMarcus Aldridge
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nba/2125/player?r=1Sources tell ESPN.com that new Wolves GM Flip Saunders is "especially high" on UCLA G/F Shabazz Muhammad.
There are two types of people in this world:
1)Morning people
2)Normal people
If Kevin Love or DeMarcus Cousins are in play, I'd say the pick will be traded.
I would have never guessed that high of comparisons for Zeller. He's got more potential than his brother, but I was thinking Anderson Varajeo.
I'm shocked Shabazz Muhammad is still in discussion for the lottery with all of the baggage associated with him. From pouting because his teammate hit the game winner to his father's problems with the law, just doesn't seem like someone I'm glad Kentucky steered clear of.
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