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The 1st graders in Mrs. Oprondek's class participated in Hour of Code this morning!
1:50 Early Dismissal Today
Dawg Walk Friday, Oct. 6th Departing Sangamon at 9:00 to Barber Park. Returning to Sangamon at Approx. 10:15
If you have any little trinkets or small toy items from Happy Meals that you would like to donate please drop them off in the Sangamon office. We recycle fun items on pay day in the lunchroom.
Parents, The first day of school is fast approaching! We would like to gather some information about your child's after school plans for this year. Please forward the following information to our office at email@example.com or email@example.com by Wednesday, August 16th. After School Plans Child's name: __________________________________________ Please let us know where your child will go after school. This is the routine that will be followed for your child unless a parent sends a note for the teacher or contacts the office with a change. ______ Bus home ______ Bus to sitter Sitter's name, address, phone number _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________ ______ Car pick up ______ Stay at Sangamon for Kid's Club ______ Walk home from school If your child has a different after school plan various days of the week, please indicate this below: Monday: _________________________________________ Tuesday: _________________________________________ Wednesday: ______________________________________ Thursday: ________________________________________ Friday: ___________________________________________
If you have not registered your child in Skyward for the upcoming school year I would encourage you to do so, and we can then place your child on a classlist. Office Hours 7:30-2:30.
Class lists are still being formed as registrations continue to come in. Classroom assignments will be available in Skyward at 4 p.m. August 11. Enjoy the rest of your summer!
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I posted below that Brianna and Micah had their first day of KAD- AKA "school". I had posted earlier asking for advice and venting a little because I was very frustrated with their placements. I was told they'd both been put in classes a year behind their age group which put Micah in the infant room and Brianna in the same class she was in last year- the 1 yr olds. I made a point of NOT saying that this was a church program or anything else because I didn't want to hear "Churches are the worst for that"... but still, that's definitely what spawned my SN ministry survey. Thank you all who replied to it (it's on the right if you haven't replied yet). Many of you that have been following along for a while or know me personally of course knew what program I was speaking of though... and after I received the advice I was looking for, I 'unpublished' that post. So if you go looking you won't find it :)
A few days before Emma's open heart surgery I went in and talked with the nursery director, whom I have a LOT of respect for and who I'd e-mailed with a few times after hearing from a third party about what classes my kids were in. She and I sat down and talked for a good hour and Mike popped in on us because he was setting up some network lines and just happened to come in while we were meeting :) Seriously! LOL
Anyway, she and I talked about her concerns as well as mine and different options for the kids, reasons for different things, etc. I was pleased to have the open conversation because I'd much rather hear what someone's thinking then have them act on it without talking to me about it. I won't go into all the details here, but we did find what we thought would be a workable solution for both the kids. Micah would go to the infant room for the first hour while the 1 yr olds are dropped off and then go to the gym. Then he'd go to the 1 yr old room the remainder of the day (3 hours) and do their craft, songs, etc. Brianna would be in the "younger 2's" room, which was newly formed because of the overwhelming response in her age group. She'd likely be the oldest in the class, but only by 1-2 months and that seemed like the perfect fit.
Fast forward to Tuesday, their first day of KAD because Fay canceled all school the previous week. Brianna did great. No problems except she wanted to climb up the slide instead of going around back. She got her fingers stepped on and hopefully that'll help her learn her lesson :) I think she'll do fine in there!
Micah, well, it didn't quite work for him. He spent the morning in the infant room and through a series of... well, I don't know because I heard a few different theories, but whatever reason, he never got moved up. He also slept for 5 minutes in the middle of the morning then napped from 11:30 until I picked him up at 12:30. I asked that they please not let him nap and talked to both the infant room and 1 yr old room teachers about him moving part way through the day. Then I took Mr.ITookHalfANap home and he grouched the rest of the day, took a late nap, then was a bear at bedtime. So... his day didn't exactly work. He didn't end up with the socialization I was going for and he also ended up with a backward schedule.
Today I dropped off Brianna and she carried her lunch box into the room, gave them her crackers she'd brought for a classroom snack and was off playing when I peeked back. I stopped in on the 1 yr old room to drop off Micah's diaper bag and lunch box and asked what time they get back from the gym, just to make sure I was telling the infant teachers everything correctly. Well, they aren't going to the gym. Most of the class is too young :) Micah started his day in the 1 yr old room and as long as he did well today he'll continue to do so until they decide to try the gym. I did leave an open end that if 4 hrs in the 1 yr old room is too much, they could bring him to the infant room. But... everyone knows not to let him sleep!
I'm headed out to get them now, but I wanted to share the POSITIVE outcome we had with this program, and the JOY that it was for me to work through it with the nursery staff that really do what what's best for all of the kids :)
Thursday, August 28, 2008
Written by Meredith at 8/28/2008 10:58:00 AM
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So happy to hear it went well and sorry to hear about M's backwards day, it will get better. Enjoy the time with Miss E while they are at school, Her scar seems to healing wellReplyDelete
I got a google alert this morning that showed your newspaper article! It was a great story and I hope that it inspires many! Way to go!!!ReplyDelete
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It was the kind of blood curdling shriek you can only imagine hearing on the darkest, stormiest night, probably in a graveyard; the kind of panicked scream that signals imminent, life threatening danger; the kind of high-pitched wail that could only conceivably come from a person being attacked by a werewolf or having their brain eaten by a zombie.
Late last night during Ultimate practice, when I heard that kind of howl unexpectedly come from Laura in the TU Delft Sportscenter, I naturally thought, "Where are the zombies? Where's my chainsaw!?" But alas, there was no zombie mangling to be done on this night; instead, what Laura had on hand was a severely dislocated little finger. Laura might not have been scared of any creatures of the night, but the little finger on her left hand definitely looked like it was scared of the rest of her fingers.
With the help of some teammates, we were quickly whisked off to urgent care to give Dutch health care and our Dutch insurance a test drive. After Laura got her little finger straightened out (I mean that literally, of course) and had it x-rayed, we learned from the doctor that she actually had some bone chipping in the finger. This means she got the "VIP upgrade" from a splint to a cast, which she'll have for at least a week (but possibly more).
Meanwhile, Laura wasn't the only one to injure herself last night. We were at the hospital from midnight to around 2:00, during which time Laura was one of an astounding four people to get plastered. That's four people, in the middle of the night, in a pretty small town, in a hospital that was mostly empty otherwise. "Go hard or go home" is taken seriously here.
With her bright new cast finally complete just after 2:00, Laura and I were ready to set off for home. Of course, we had no idea which direction home was because we had no idea where in town the hospital was - this is what happens when you trade four wheels for two. We sheepishly asked a nurse to pinpoint our location on Google maps and we set off on the (thankfully) short hike home.
No zombies to fight on the walk home, either. (Maybe next time.)
Wednesday, February 11, 2009
Screams in the Night
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Everything online journalists need to protect their legal rights. This free resource culls from all Reporters Committee resources and includes exclusive content on digital media law issues.
Members of the Olympia Food Co-Op sued members of the co-op's board of directors for adopting a boycott of Israeli products. The board successfully had the suit dismissed under the state's anti-SLAPP law. On appeal, the libel plaintiffs are asking the Washington Supreme Court to rule that the Washington anti-SLAPP statute is unconstitutional. The Reporters Committee argued that the Washington anti-SLAPP statute, like the many anti-SLAPP laws around the country that have been held to be constitutional, protects journalists from protracted legal battles over meritless lawsuits that are designed to chill speech. The law does not violate the plaintiffs' rights to petition or of access to the courts, particularly because there is no right to file a frivolous suit, which is what the statute is intended to protect against.
The Animal Legal Defense Fund sued the attorney general of Idaho over Idaho's "ag gag" law, which imposes penalties for "agricultural production interference," in essence recording images and sounds on the property of agricultural production facilities. It punishes people who investigate such facilities' cruelty to animals and other unsafe food practices. In supporting the plaintiff's push for a decision in their favor before a federal district court, the Reporters Committee argued that the Idaho law infringes on First Amendment rights of people who want to inform the public about important matters such as food safety. It fails to survive strict scrutiny because it does not further the government's interest in promoting food safety and is not narrowly tailored.
A Connecticut Superior Court judge in the juvenile division, overseeing a custody dispute, issued a prior restraint order against the Connecticut Law Tribune, prohibiting a reporter from publishing information he obtained while in the courtroom and from a court document that had been posted publicly on the court website. The judge also sealed transcripts and his orders and memorandum justifying the prior restraint. The Connecticut Law Tribune appealed, and the Connecticut Supreme Court agreed to hear the appeal. The Reporters Committee and 48 media companies filed a motion to appear as amici curiae, arguing that the court violated the First and Fourteenth Amendments when it issued an order barring publication of information lawfully obtained from a court document posted on the court's own public website. We argued that there is a heavy presumption against prior restraints generally, and specifically under the U.S. Supreme Court holding in Oklahoma Publishing Co. v.
An appeal of an adverse determination under the D.C. Freedom of Information Act ("DC FOIA"), by the Metropolitan Police Department ("MPD"), submitted on behalf of the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press. The Reporters Committee sought footage from police body cameras as the D.C. police began a pilot program to test such a system.
A panel of Eleventh Circuit judges held that the Fourth Amendment applies to requests for historical cell site location information. Prosecutors obtained over two months' worth of historical location information from a cell phone provider using a court order issued under the Stored Communications Act, which permits a court to order a service provider to turn over subscriber records but does not require a finding of probable cause that a crime has been committed. The Eleventh Circuit granted rehearing en banc, and the Reporters Committee filed a brief in support of the defendant's position. The Fourth Amendment question in the case, the Reporters Committee argued, is inextricably linked to First Amendment questions. Warrantless acquisition of cell phone location data is concerning because a record of where one goes, and for how long, lays bare the processes of investigative reporting and threatens to reveal confidential sources and methods.
Courthouse News Service (CNS) filed a federal lawsuit against a California state superior court for delaying access to newly filed unlimited civil complaints for days or weeks. CNS argued that the First Amendment provides a right of access to civil complaints that attaches immediately upon filing, and its reporters should be able to inspect newly filed civil complaints the day they are filed. A federal district court granted the defendant-court's motion to dismiss, finding that the type of access requested was not required under the First Amendment. The Reporters Committee and 25 other media organizations argued that a First Amendment right of access attaches to civil complaints when they are filed. The brief argued that the public has a right to know what matters are occupying space on court dockets and consuming public resources, and that complaints reveal a wealth of information about how citizens use the judicial branch.
The Reporters Committee led a media coalition protesting a Seattle FBI effort to use a fake Associated Press news article and web site to ensnare a criminal suspect. The protest letter was submitted to the Attorney General and the Director of the FBI.
The Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press, joined by a national coalition of media organizations, has filed comments on proposed Department of Defense Freedom of Information Act regulations.
Photographer Paul Raef was prosecuted under California Vehicle Code 40008, basically an anti-paparazzi law that imposes additional penalties on violators of generally applicable reckless driving laws when those violators are driving with the intent to gather news for commercial purposes. The Reporters Committee and seven other groups argued that the law imposes an additional punishment for driving while being a journalist and threatens the First Amendment right of newsgathering. It punishes both paparazzi and members of the mainstream media who are traveling with the intent of gathering news. The law could be used to harass journalists. The amicus coalition submitted a letter brief to the Court of Appeal, Second Appellate District, Division Four, asking for the court to grant Raef's petition for transfer or, in the alternative, for a writ of mandamus. The court denied Raef's petition for transfer and for writ of mandamus.
A 19-year-old American, Mohammed Hamzah Khan, was arrested as he tried to fly from the United States to Turkey (ultimately to go to Iraq or Syria), and he was charged with attempting to provide material support to terrorist organizations. The government moved to have Khan's detention hearing closed to the public, because privacy interests of third-party minors would be implicated. The government filed its motion and brief under seal, so the precise justification to close the hearing was unknown. The Reporters Committee wrote a letter to express concern about closing the detention hearing, arguing that there is a well-established First Amendment right of access to preliminary proceedings in criminal cases, which may only be overcome by an overriding interest based on findings that closure was essential to preserve higher values and was narrowly tailored to serve that interest.
Freelance journalist Wayne Anderson had his "embed" status terminated by the military, and he was removed from Afghanistan. Anderson claimed the termination was in retaliation for his coverage of a conflict between Afghan and American soldiers. His case was dismissed by a federal judge over jurisdictional and service issues. In this brief on appeal, the Reporters Committee argued that Anderson sufficiently pleaded a First Amendment retaliation claim, as a pro se litigant, and the District Court should not have dismissed the claim so early.
Proprietors of Dancing Deer Mountain, a wedding venue in Oregon, sued a Google reviewer, Christopher Liles, for libel following his negative review of his experience at a wedding there. The Oregon Court of Appeals held that some of the defendant's statements were actionable, such as calling the plaintiff "rude" and "crooked," while the defendant argued that those were non-actionable statements of opinion. This filing was asking the Oregon Supreme Court to review the Court of Appeals decisions. The Reporters Committee argued that the Oregon Supreme Court should accept the defendants Petition for Review because of the importance of clarifying what non-actionable opinion is in the state. The Court of Appeals decisions created confusion as to what may be stated in an online review and what will expose a commenter to liability. Such confusion could limit free speech and have serious consequences for public debate.
The Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press sent a letter on behalf of 44 news organizations to the Department of Justice urging officials to include police interaction with the press and public in the investigation of the events surrounding the death of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo., in August.
The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau ("CFPB") asked for comments regarding a proposed policy whereby it would post consumer complaint narratives in its online Consumer Complaint Database on an opt-in basis. Previously, only aggregate data from complaints submitted to the CFPB was available through the database. The CFPB's proposed policy statement changed this by allowing consumers to have any narrative included in their complaint publicly published on an opt-in basis. The Reporters Committee, joined by a coalition of news media organizations, submitted comments arguing that all consumer complaint narratives should be published. The disclosure of such comments "would assist journalists who seek to supplement the numbers already made available through the Database with the powerful firsthand experiences of individual consumers," and therefore the public interest weighs heavily in favor of their disclosure, the letter argued.
The Washington Travel Clinic and a doctor sued Yelp reviewer John Kandrac for libel for statements he made about his poor experience at the clinic. Kandrac moved to dismiss the complaint under the D.C. anti-SLAPP statute. The D.C. Superior Court dismissed almost all of his claims, but allowed one to survive. At issue in this filing was whether the denial of a special motion to dismiss under the D.C. anti-SLAPP statute is immediately appealable under the "collateral order doctrine." The Reporters Committee argued that a special motion to dismiss under the D.C. anti-SLAPP statute is immediately appealable. Allowing for immediate appeal in such a case furthers the purposes of the anti-SLAPP statute, which is designed to allow journalists to quickly dispose of meritless suits designed to chill speech.
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For Sharath
It is our sincere hope that R. Sharath Rangaswamy will make the decision to have the original tapes digitally remastered. As of 2010, these tapes are already over seventeen years old and, unfortunately, deteriorating rapidly every day. At some point very soon, if not already, their content will be lost forever. This would be a great tragedy. By digitizing the videos, the legacy of these teachings will be preserved well into the future for all Ashtanga practitioners, and all students of yoga history.
The videos offered on this site are our contribution to the Ashtanga community, and all present and future practitioners of this most perfect and beautiful gift of yoga. Should Sharath digitally remaster the original tapes and release them on DVD, we will no longer offer these videos, and this site will permanently redirect to his new page promoting the remastered DVDs.
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Joerg Wiedenhoeft / Aug 16 2011 4:35 pm
I am very interestet in the old films with guruji and new films with Sarath also. If possible as DVD.
How much are they ?
How to order them ? I live in Germany.


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Hello loved ones,
Well, lots has changed since the last time I wrote!! New area, new companion, new assignment, and a new preparation day!! Lots of new things but Im loving it.
I have been assigned to be the assistant to the President. I started with my new assignment last sunday so this week has been lots of learning and keeping busy. I like my new assignment so far! I know I will learn a lot and it will be sweet to work with the President and with a lot of missionaries. I will be the assistant to President Camarillo until July 1st when he ends his mission and then my next companion and I will be the assistants to President Egginton who also starts on July 1st. We will train him for 3 months and then I think it will be my turn to come home. My companion right now is Elder Balbuena. He is from Puebla, Mexico. He lives in the mission where Ethan will serve! He is a great missionary. We will serve together for the next three months. Our ward is called Bugambilias. Its in Guadalajara and its also the promised land, just like Lazaro Cardenas.
This past weekend I had an awesome experience. On sunday Elder Balbuena and I had the opportunity to go the the fireside of the missionaries who finished their mission this transfer. It was their last day here in the mission and it was a testimony meeting. Their clothes were a little tattered, their shoes worn down, and a little bit of a scared look on their face to go back home. But they truly looked like representatives of Jesus Christ who had done His work for the past two years. It was one of the most powerful meetings I have been in. The spirit was so strong as we listened to their testimonies that they had gained during 2 years or a year and a half for the sisters.
The next day we went to the airport to receive the new missionaries arriving from the MTC. Their shirts were very white, their suites new and fresh, and a little bit of a scared look on their face. But they also truly looked like representatives of Jesus Christ ready to do His work for he next two years.
I love this work. I cant imagine myself doing anything else at this time. I know that this is Christ`s church and I know that this is His work. I try every day to make our Savior proud and I thank Him every day for the sacrifice that he has given to each and every one of us.
Love you all!! An I hope you have a great week. My new preparation day is on saturdays so that is when you will be receiving my emails now.
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Our group shots.
We also got a few of just the girls. love them!
One thing i really love about Marisa is that she also includes some "behind the scenes shots" that show whats really going on at our family shoots ;) Kevin's and my absolute favorite picture has to be the one of McKenna pulling kevin's hair! She WOULD NOT let go!


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Accounting firm Deloitte Australia and engineering group WorleyParsons (WOR) have agreed to work together on major projects in the oil and gas, mining and infrastructure sectors.
In a statement, WorleyParsons chief executive officer Andrew Wood said the alliance was the "next logical step" after establishing their "new ventures group", which will explore opportunities that are aligned with but additional to their traditional activity.
"It reflects our commitment to constantly challenge ourselves to develop new opportunities for growth, and the proven track records of both organisations in delivering world class advisory services," Mr Wood said.
Deloitte chief executive officer Giam Swiegers said the alliance aims to position both groups for growth.
"Reinforced by Australia's proximity to the world's fastest growing markets in Asia, Deloitte forecasts an increasing Asian appetite for gas," he said.
The two groups have formed a similar alliance in Canada and are pursuing a deal in South Africa.


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Qantas launches Jetstar Hong Kong, with China Eastern
Qantas is about to announce a Jetstar Hong Kong venture in association with China Eastern, but the
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Qantas is about to announce a Jetstar Hong Kong venture in association with China Eastern, but the
Qantas is about to announce a Jetstar Hong Kong venture in association with China Eastern, but the SMH has beaten it with its own news.
A Jetstar franchise in Hong Kong has been a determined pursuit for Jetstar group CEO Bruce Buchanan, and one in which such plans have earlier failed to sway Cathay Pacific and in turn the Hainan Group carrier Hong Kong Express, which is being relaunched as an A320 low cost carrier.
Jetstar Hong Kong joins Jetstar Asia, Jetstar Pacific (Vietnam), Jetstar New Zealand and Jetstar Japan as members of the transborder low cost carrier Jetstar franchise abroad.
The Hong Kong venture is expected to start flights early next year. While details of the funding and equity arrangements have not yet been outlined, the expansion of the franchise has about as much direct relevance to the issue of jobs in Qantas as the expansion of a Telstra or Optus franchise in China would have on users of mobile phones in Australia.
The real debate is more likely to arise if it was proposed to fly-in and fly-out Jetstar Hong Kong pilots and cabin attendants to work on the Australian Jetstar franchise under lower cost labor agreements or non-Australian safety standards.
Hong Kong is however is, not nearly as low cost as some argue, as is also the case with Singapore. There are advantages, but they are also fragile advantages in terms of exchange rate volatility and the hot house pressure of rapidly expanding Asia economies.
Jetstar Hong Kong will face fierce resistance from Cathay Pacific, which dominates the Hong Kong market through its own brand and of that of subsidiary Dragonair, which has a strong PRC network, and in association with its part owner, Beijing based Air China.
Cathay Pacific is also embroiled in a tough competitive battle with the Hainan group, which has two Hong Kong based subsidiaries, in Hong Kong Express (a low cost format) and Hong Kong Airways (a full service format).
China Eastern, the Shanghai based Qantas group partner in Jetstar Hong Kong, has itself been locked in competitive conflict with China Southern (Guangzhou) as well as Air China (Beijing) where they overlap. It is a situation in which uniquely China issues arise, including power struggles between different state owned or controlled entities.
There is little doubt Buchanan understands how tough Hong Kong is, given his presence in Hong Kong on many occasions over the last 18-24 months and his comments to that effect to the Hong Kong media.
Turning Jetstar Hong Kong into a profit centre is perhaps the biggest challenge the Jetstar franchise has ever faced.
This is an extract from the Qantas statement:
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I'm off topic (again) but this spat fascinates me.
"Turning Jetstar Hong Kong into a profit centre is perhaps the biggest challenge the Jetstar franchise has ever faced."
With a little creative accounting I'm sure it won't be a problem.
A few niggling points on the whole idea,
1. Shenzhen Airport – the de-facto low cost hub to HKG, flights from SZX to mainland chinese cities are well below those from HKG and local people take full advantage of this as well as incoming chinese tourism (transfers from Shenzhen to Hong Kong are big business with 2 mtr stations, many coach services, car transfers about to be opened up and several border crossing points). As an example at easter I'm travelling SZX-HAK which saved 50% over HKG-HAK.
2. HKG Runway Capacity – A 3rd runway has recently been approved for construction and there are efforts clear up the congested airspace by consolidating other airports in the region. Prime runway slots have already been jumped on by the legacy carriers.
3. CX – As has been mentioned the relationship is poor between QF and CX – they have strong loyalty in their home market and extensive penetration with Asia Miles. They also have a head start on the whole '2 brand' approach with Dragonair already operating on a lower cost base to leisure destinations whilst running an award winning service. CX also already has a mainland Chinese sponsor in Air China backing them who is unlikely to rest on their laurels whilst the CZ/JQ tie up affects their market share.
4. Hainan Group – the so called 'new kid on the block' Hong Kong Airlines has been fighting for several years now bitterly for market share and credibility, it's fares heavily undercut the major carriers to leisure and business destinations already but it is viewed with suspicion locally and is regular fodder for the tabloids with tales of customer service 'nightmares'. Backed by the Grand China group it also has deep pockets to sustain a low fares assault.
5. Other LCCs – 10 other LCCs operate from HKG to Asian destinations already.
I'm interested in your para 3 comments WJ especially the poor CX/QF relationship. Indicative of the situation was the choice by QF of BA for their HKG-LHR sector partner rather than CX in the recent QF route cuts. CX offers a far superior service out of HKG than BA. I guess the QF reasoning was that if a passenger was going to travel CX out of HKG to London then why would they bother travelling QF to HKG. I guess that the bottom line is that although both One World members QF is just no match for CX.
Ben, just a small but important and very relevant point to correct you: Dragonair is not PRC-based but very firmly based in Hong Kong with its head office just by the airport. Being 100% owned by CX, whose head office is also right by the airport although in a separate building, the close relationship provides a comprehensive network of KA mainland China destinations fed by CX's international flights into HKG. KA also has a good regional Asia network out of HKG.
ff79 is correct but these articles on CX and Dragonair glide over the complicated history. The article (in today's subscriber edition) had me scratch my head when 100% ownership by CX was claimed, because I distinctly remember CX was "forced" into allowing mainland purchase of a significant stake (remember this was at the time of HK reverting to PRC sovereignty and the new airport had also created a lot of tension with the PRC who had dithered over its approval; HK boldly went ahead and built it anyway and it opened one year after the HK handover).
So the situation was (Wikipedia): "in April 1996, when China National Aviation Corporation (CNAC) purchased 35.86 percent of Dragonair and became the largest shareholder, with Cathay Pacific and Swire retaining 25.50 percent, CITIC Pacific retaining 28.50 percent…CNAC's holding was further increased to 43 percent when it was listed on the Hong Kong Stock Exchange on 17 December 1997."
But in 2006 there was a major realignment with CX buying out all other parties, and "By 2009, services to Bangkok and Tokyo; and the expansion plans to introduce services to Sydney, Seoul and the United States have been cancelled and terminated."
No doubt some of this was relaxation by Beijing after the HK handover had bedded down, but a lot must have had to do with both CX's strategy for a HK-based world airline (which Beijing does not want to hinder) and of course mainland-based airlines out of their major centres, principally Shanghai and Beijing.
This surely has some lessons to Qantas and others. CX was clearly concerned that Dragonair competing with its parent on its main international routes was a destructive strategy–to efficiency, profitability and to brand loyalty etc. I declare an interest in that I have flown CX, from Europe and now Australia, for decades. Perhaps for that reason my opinion doesn't count but I know I will continue not to fly Qantas to HK, and of course part of my historic reason is that if I go on to Europe (or other major international destinations) I can do it, and do do it, with CX (even if Qantas did it as they used to, it would still be just to Heathrow and I am so over that). IMO, CX has an admirably clear structure–major international routes you fly CX and change at HKG to Dragonair for either PRC destinations or shorter-haul international routes such as Vietnam etc.
As to the comments about Shenzhen, two points:
1. maybe fair enough if you are just transiting (but then why not fly direct–certainly I see zero advantage if flying from Oz; if staying in HK then one would have to add the costs and inconvenience of getting to Shenzhen, for which you also need a PRC visa, which ok I suppose you already have if you are destined for China). However for a long international flight, say from Oz, I have no intention of flying some second or third rate cheapo like JetStar which might be just tolerable on short domestic flights–though I have never used them since there is Virgin). Finally, I would be strongly inclined to travel to China cities on HSR rather than fly. Even the overnight train from Beijing to HK is pretty good (back in 2000; I understand it is already much upgraded) and you arrive refreshed in early a.m. in HK, right in the centre of town.
2. HKG was built on the other side of Lantau island so that it could operate 24/7 without disrupting urban population centres (I have stayed in one of those hi-rises in Tung Chung newtown directly opposite the airport and these are built for it, ie. no problem). This may have been primarily for freight (HKG is the world's largest airport for freight) and mainlanders may be a lot less caring about disturbing their citizens but…as long-term planning goes it was excellent.
W J, I think it would be much harder to get regulatory approval for a Chinese domestic airline that's substantially Qantas owned than for an international airline flying into China from another jurisdiction, so you can rule out SZX and CAN. Chinese government hostility effectively rules out Taipei, so it comes down to a choice between Macau and Hong Kong. HKG is bigger and has many more connections. As you say, there are ten low cost airlines there already but still the market supports much higher fares than SZX.
@Sean Doyle Posted March 27, 2012 at 2:21 am
"European LLC experience shows that many people are willing to sacrifice a direct flight to their destination if it means a cheaper fare (e.g. FR flying to sticksville airports while claiming to fly to Paris, Dusseldorf, Frankfurt, et al)."
Your statement can be both true and false. True in the short term in that it is the facts that plenty of travellers have taken up those cheapo airfares; but the complaints from those surprised by where the end up and the time, cost and hassle of getting to where they actually need to go strongly suggests it will not be a sustainable thing. Of course the LCC try to surf their initial success by buying back into major air hubs, but then their often marginal "cheapness" (often an illusion as many travellers discover) also suffers. Hence the immense instability of the airline industry over the past 4 decades.
IMO Virgin (Atlantic; ie. Branson's first air venture) set the better model: no-b.s. fares for perfectly good travel conditions. (And they were alway ahead of old competitors like BA because of their ability to access new model planes with things like seat-back video in 100% of seats years before BA; most American lines still do not have it and want to charge you $5-$10 for watching a distant ceiling suspended screen!) V have managed to make this model a success over several decades now, and without diluting their brand or confusing their patrons (and all the while avoiding the despicable loyalty systems).
Of course I agree about the train thing, except for two things: 1. coming age of HSR and 2. most pax are not heading to Beijing (and if they are why are they not flying direct?) but to the much further south industrial centres, like Shanghai or inland like Wuhan, Chongqing, Chengdu etc.
I won't recount my thing about fast trains as I have written several articles for Crikey and NT. But I think your comments about train travel suggest you have not experienced HSR. In essence my argument is that lots of people will prefer HSR train travel to flight even when an (ostensible) time penalty is involved. For me I even prefer an overnighter sleeper to a short flight and overnight hotel stay (which is what lots of business types do).
Incidentally CX is the first airline to formally link up with the European HSR network (from its Frankfurt hub I believe). So for this broad discussion, would I bet on CX getting the long-term strategy correct or current Qantas management?
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[WHEN I told her I was planning to zigzag across her country to savour Avatar-esque countryside, ancient imperial capitals and metropolises that never sleep, my Chinese friend Nan had a morsel of advice.
"Use eLong.net," she beamed. "It's amazing. Super-cheap flights. Cheaper than trains or buses, some of the time."
I didn't want to be rude but I had to tell her that she was wasting her breath. I'd already decided that I was going the whole hog by rail: from Guangzhou in the south, to Qingdao in the north, with stops at Guilin, Shanghai, Xian and Beijing along the way.
Despite the vagaries of long-haul train travel – I'd turned the air blue on occasions during previous trips across Europe, India and Vietnam – I've never been a big fan of flying internally, especially when you have time not to and particularly in a country such as China.
My ticket to Guilin – some 1030 kilometres west of Guangzhou – was 215 yuan ($38) for a hard sleeper, which is ostensibly a spot in a moving six-bed dorm room with no doors. The cheapest flight I could find on eLong, incidentally, was 450 yuan.]
[From Changsha to Guangzhou, the one-way fare in economy class for the two-hour journey, at speeds of up to 300 km per hour, is 333 renminbi ($51). That is comparable to a deeply discounted airfare …. The same trip takes nine hours on an older, diesel train. But it costs only 99 renminbi ($15).]
I wonder if many have properly glimpsed the coming revolution in China when "High-speed track would connect all of China's provincial capitals and cities of at least 500,000 people by 2020."
Ben, yes there are all sorts of reasons for using the train. In about another decade (perhaps delayed a bit by the GFC) I don't know why people would fly internally in Europe and even for much of China, when their continent-wide networks start coalescing.
Even business types–and though most of my travel has been for "business" as a self-funded scientist I did not have to answer to idiot managerialist types who pretend that jet-lag or simple travel fatigue do not exist, and do not value senior staff flexibility over the mentality of "getting back to the office desk a.s.a.p." especially when the fast trains will offer a better quality working office than their home headquarters.
So, IMO, the international airline that recognizes this and facilitates it–rather than fight it so you have to deal with multiple travel services to get what you want–will garner customers. No accident CX is a pioneer or of course that Virgin has run fast (InterCity, not HSR yet) trains London to Edinburgh for ages.
Incidentally my few experiences of Stansted were pretty terrible. It may have changed by now. The trouble was that the train to either London or Cambridge (the airport is actually closer to Cambridge) was like a commuter service and involved lots of waiting around. It was so bad that the organizers of a conference in Cambridge had arranged limos/minibuses at regular times to pick up attendees flying in. (There are loads of trains London to Cambridge but hardly any stopped at the airport, so unlike Gatwick in which not only are there dedicated trains to London but every Brighton or southcoast bound InterCity also stops.)
Sean Doyle.
I knew the instant I posted that comment, you could come back… But that's good. I guess my thinking is really about HSR (at least if other than leisure travel) and that it is still a bit too early. However they are throwing almost $400 billion at it and every year it gets closer to a complete network.
FYI, my articles on HSR for Oz:
A very fast train is a model of sustainability
MICHAEL R. JAMES March 26, 2010
We need new fast trains … fast.
by Michael R James Wednesday, 28 October 2009


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I'd grown up knowing that my dad was the Ghost Rider. Old news. He
worked with evil every night. Big whoop. The only thing I didn't know was
that I would inherit the curse…
He came to me one night, the Devil. Dad was out and mom was
Downstairs. I was sitting at my desk when the room went cold… I turned
around and saw him standing by my bed.
"You." I said, perfect imitation of my dad.
He held out a paper, a contract.
"Your father's curse has been passed onto you." He said.
I gave him my best skeptical look, it probably came off more as a grimace.
"My dad is out there now. How can we both be Ghost Riders?" I asked.
"There can be two. You will work alongside your father and when the time comes you can get your soul back. Or, like him, you can keep the curse and pass it on to your child." he replied.
"I don't want to." I said.
"You will." the Devil hissed. He pulled a tiny vial out of his pocket, it was filled with a shiny silver light.
"Dad's soul.." I said, awed.
"I'll destroy it." he growled.
"No…" I pleaded "you can't."
He put the vial back in his pocket and pushed the contract at me.
"Sign it." he said.
I took a deep breath. "he dies and I quit." I said.
"Sign it." the Devil repeated.
I stood up and crossed the room to him. I took the feathered pen and signed my name;
Baylie Roxanne Blaze
He snatched the pen from me and yanked my hand towards him. He jabbed the tip of it into my finger.
"OW!" I said, and tried to pull my hand back. He held onto my wrist and held my hand over the paper. A ruby drop of my blood plopped onto the paper next to my signature. The contract vanished. My finger felt like it was on fire! I looked down at it. A tiny tattoo of a skull remained where he had stabbed my finger. Creepy Cool!
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OMG Girlz Don't Exist on teh Intarweb!!!!1
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The internet is such a big place, I hardly ever get bothered for being a girl. At EB Games though, I was once asked "where my man is" by the clerks.
To which you reply, "Duffelbag. Trunk. Do you have any copies of Painkiller?"
I knew a couple of female gamers back in high school. They both moved away. I know female gamers exist. If you were to approach me online and tell me you were female, I wouldn't give you flak for it. I just wouldn't believe you.
Hold on, hold on, stay the flame throwers a moment. I said I wouldn't believe you, not that I would challenge you. My general response to "Of course Im a gurl on halo!" Is a simple nod and maybe a mention that there is a plasma grenade on the individual in question's back. There are a lot of guys on the internet who like to pose as girls. There are also a lot of girls who simply enjoy a good raid or deathmatch. I don't generally try to figure out people's gender online. It should not matter if they are a male or female, and as such, I don't care for the info. I don't care which bathroom you go to, only if you can hold a base in CTF or if you can hold aggro as a tank.
Generally, I've also found that if I'm not trying to find out who is what gender, then the only people who make a big deal of trying to convince me they are a girl when I don't give them the expected "OMG UR HOT LETZ CYBR" response turn out to be 40 year old men.
The game I play most online is Unreal Tournament, and there truly aren't hardly any girls in it. My clan used to have one back in the DAY like 7 years ago when shooters and RTS's were the only online games available, and I think she plays WoW now... most girls do gravitate away from the fast-paced violent types of games, and that's what the bulk of online gaming is (besides MMOs I guess). The online UT community is so overwhelmingly male (200 to 1 gender ratio, no exaggeration) that I can't blame girls from shying away from it. Any time one shows up she's instantly greeted with a mix of the following:
Disbelief (as described in this article)
All of course brought on by the deep, deep well of pent-up sexual frustration that is a community of 99% teenage boys, mostly without girlfriends.
I personally treat women online a little differently than men, just like I would in real life, but with as much equality as I can manage. Most men change their behavior around girls, and in an online community that's pretty much like a real-life "guy's club" it's a little disorienting sometimes having a woman around. Not saying it's a bad thing, but the problem isn't the presence of females in general, it's their relative scarcity. 50 girls and 50 guys is normal. 2 girls and 98 guys is weird. And as Angel.Slayer pointed out, the ones that can actually handle an atmosphere like that sometimes tend to be people that are desperate for attention, which makes us guys further skeptical. If I was a woman online, honestly, I'd probably just pretend I was a dude and not use voice comm.
I'd love to see more girls on the intarweb, but I wonder if it'll ever happen.
Bleh. One of my good friends be a gamer and cruising internet constantly.
Now, in a complete reversal of all this, I must say that on one forum I frequent everyone believed (for some bizarre reason) that I was, in fact, a woman. *Shrug* I have no clue why that is so, it just happened.
I've seen this exact thing more times then I can count. I don't know why people can't except that girls play games. Most of my friends from high school are female and they all play some type of video game.
In my guild on WoW we currently have 56 people total. Out of those there are three girls that have spoken on vent/posted a picture on the guild site (we never ask them to, all members are welcome to post a picture and a lot of them actually do once they settle in). One of those is our GM who is also married to one of the other members. Another is engaged to another member and the last is single. The first two get attention from a lot of the new members but once they find out they are spoken for it seems to trickle off. The last gets the most attention for the longest.
Sadly its looking more and more like guys just can not (or do not want to) accept that girls are online playing the same games that we are. I hope that those that play will keep there heads down and be smart, don't want you having to deal with anymore idiots then you are already going to have to.
Well, those things are still games, so you can say those are gamers, with different tastes.
Anyway, everyone agrees to it that MMOs are being stereotyped. Maybe it's also because of that one ad of WoW, which actually catered more to the ones that played it and let it dust. It was more for guys it seems. And i didn't completely do my homework on this one, so correct me if there is an ad with a female star in it.
But what people tend to forget what that stereotype in mind is that everyone can play it. You shouldn't be surprised to find girls there, now shuld you? People should realize that for one, But it's also something we tend to forget alot. Well, not the people at the escapist, they seem more inteligent and mature than any other community. I'm digressing though, but my point is that people(usually around 12-15 something age) forget that their game can be played by anyone.
So why do we neglect that aspect?
You should go to EVE-online. Girls are much more commmon there and I haven't seen anyone freak out because of it.
It's a weird cycle. Are teh men on teh interweb crude and desperate because they don't have girlfriends? Or do they not have girlfriends because they're crude and desperate? Either way, I'm always ashamed of my fellow man when their whole gaming experience derails because they're horny. "OMG UR A GURL, PIX PLS" Just.....it's just....sad. I always wonder if that's how they would talk to someone in real life. Maybe not, but I bet they're thinkin' it.
Oh God, there was a thread I read somewhere about how girl gamers were all either fat, ugly, or only played The Sims*, and were therefore worthless. The sense of sheer entitlement was just... Well, the day someone invents an internet death-ray, I know who I'm going after.
(*Also, a guy found out his girlfriend played The Sims, so he 'educated' her as to why she was a stupid bitch for doing so. I bet he gets so much sex, you guys. We wimminz love being called stupid bitches who should just play with dolls if we wanna play house.)
Rule #whatever ("There are no girls on the interwebz") is, IMNSHO, a self-fulfilling prophecy. Girls get hounded off because nobody believes they're girls, so the myth gets perpetuated.
There's certainly no shortage of people who DON'T believe it, either... every big site on the internet, from MMORPGs to social networking sites, always get flooded with cybering requests at the slightest provocation. A lot of the thirteen-year-old boys desperate for cyber fun don't even bother to read profiles before doing so. I am male, but the fact that my username has "cat" in it causes a lot of people to mistake me for a girl even when all you have to do is click on my profile to see the word "Male" written under "gender," and THEY get offended when they find out I'm not what I never even tried to make anyone think that I was.
Then again, I personally am of the opinion that the "ignorant masses" are really just a bunch of twelve-year-old boys ruining it for everyone. Thank you, 4chan.
(just one little problem: Speaking as an autistic, I always get a little uncomfortable when people demand eye contact. I always have trouble making eye contact when I'm speaking to someone, even if I know them well and am comfortable around them, and there are a lot of people like that. I always feel embarrassed when people take it as an offense when it's not).
i have to say for all the popularity of mutliplayer games the biggest complaint of 90% of gamers tends to be the gamers they meet are total cock bites about everything including gender. i'm a dude and i'm tentative about talking in online games for fear of whats going around me. i don't get it myself, most of the gmaers i meet in person or on forums tend to be really cool but in actually playing online it's only my friends and friends of them that are even bearable let alone fun to play with. granted my experience is mostly limited to xbox live but i've never been much for multiplayer given i prefer co-op to deathmatches and i'm not a big fan of fps, i will admit in the days of diablo and starcraft most of the people you met online were fairly decent and even phantasy star online for dreamcast was pretty cool, i think when people have an evil to unite against they actually unite, when people your playing against could be friends or enemies from minute to minute it helps create a hostile environment. not that trash talking isn't fun from time to time but thats all people are doing now-a-days.
i've run into female's from time to time in games and while i can understand their hesitance to admit their gender i thought we outgrew this childish nonsence,
Well, my old guild leader and around 1/5 of my old guild were girls. I also don't mind admitting that I get my beat by girls in games. Also, I never ask for pictures because it is rude. PS: You just made me get an account so I can point out polite guys do exist on the internet.
Having never delved that deeply into online gaming, I've never had people full-on freak out at me whilst playing a game. However I do get questioning looks and snarly jeers when I'm perusing my local EB Games without a man at my side, like they should be checking for the Four Horsemen or something.
In recent months I've played everything from BioShock, to Portal, Crysis, Assassin's Creed and so on. And I play the Sims. Get over yourself.
Not only am I a girl gamer, I'm an all-around girl geek. And it's not just the Internet, people in the actual world have a hard time wrapping their minds around that one. If I'm in Chapters and pull a sci-fi novel off the shelf, everyone (read: men) swivel there heads in my direction like I just pulled the pin out of a hand grenade.
It's a stereotype that exists in all culture (not just cyber-culture) and it's a damn shame.
After reading through the article, and then each of the replies and comments in this thread, I think I'll attempt to add a bit more insight on the topic. I don't know how well I'll do, so forgive me if I don't make some points clear.
The first thing I think that I think is important to remember is that young males, by varying degrees, are inherently nervous around the opposite sex. This is not just limited to the internet or online gaming in general, but anyone in all walks of life. Show me one straight male who at some point has not felt some degree of internal struggle when attempting to interact with the opposite sex. We can get over that, but the point is we experience it at some point.
Another thing to remember is that the internet is a haven for those who have difficulty interacting with other people in general(such as myself), let alone the opposite sex, and as such have not exactly learned what it means to be respectful or courteous to others. There are none of the nonverbal cues or the pressures of keeping up an appearance when you're communicating with others by way of the internet, say, for example, this very web forum. I'm not trying to justify poor behavior when the stereotypical teenage dimwit demands you show them a picture of yourself to prove you're a girl on the internet, but girls, please keep in mind that these guys you interact with probably are not very social people and engage in a hobby primarily enjoyed by other guys such as themselves, so don't take it too personally when a group of guys harasses you. It's very likely that they are simply curious, so clue them in a bit.
I had another point, but I realized I'd simply be reiterating what everyone else has already said already.
We should be friends. Seriously. I have PDD-NOS(another autism spectrum disorder for those who don't know; basically psycho-jargon for don't-know-what-exactly-you-got-but-it's-something) so we could probably relate in many ways. I know exactly what you mean about the eye-contact thing, I still can't do it.
Heh, it can get even worse in game developing- girls can be real scarce there (sadly). I'm one though. There were only two girls (myself included) in the highschool classes for higher math, chemistry and physics) and the college for gamedevelopment...I was the only one. Where I work there's one other woman.
I never got a lot of shit. In the past (years ago) a bit on Diablo...especially because I choose male avatars so often. Hell, on roleplaying games I play psychotic terrorists.
What got quite funny was in a roleplaying game (real roleplaying ;) ) My character got a sort of love interest (not cybering, thank you). The other player knew i was a female player...and the player playing the female character was a male, which was a funny mix and resulted in much oc laughter when I unloaded another bunch of ic sexist remarks.
I just finished reading the article and a few of the posts here. Now, I'd like to respond. Let me first start off by saying that I am a guy. I know what I'm about to write will undoubtedly be taken as straightforward sexism by some, but I really do have a valid point to make here, so bear with me.
First of all, I'm going to tell you all a little story. Years ago, I was sitting around with a bunch of friends (a couple of them young women), playing Goldeneye on the 64. We decided to have a little one-on-one tournament to see who was the best player in our group. It started off normally, and by that I mean it quickly degenerated into a trash-talking free-for-all with every kill. Now when the only one of the 2 girls to participate got killed, no one said much. I noticed this and thought it odd since she was one of the most foul mouthed women I'd ever met. When it finally came to the final match, me vs her for the win, I thought I'd step up and dole it out as good as her. Unfortunately, I didn't have much opportunity since she was thuroughly kicking my ass. Then, my fortune turned and I was able to mount a comeback, trash-talking and all. We fought back and forth for the better part of a half-hour and, in the end, I finished her off.
As soon as I won, I threw my hands into the air, declairing my supremecy to all (all 9 of us, that is) and turned to my defeated adversary to offer a decidedly triumphant "good game." That's when I noticed it... She was crying. Mind you, not hysterical sobbing or anything like that, but there were tears on her face that she tried quickly to remove. I felt like CRAP! And at that moment, my great victory meant nothing anymore. I made her cry.
Now, there is a point to make from all that. No, I'm not saying that all girls cry when they lose or anything like that, so don't even start! The thing all you proud girl-gamers need to realize is that the guys you play against are in fact GUYS. We act differently towards you when we realize your a girl because (now get this) you ARE different from us. You see, most men have this little gene that forces us to accept this and watch our words and actions around you because we know that when you're upset, well, it's just no fun for us. And this goes to the point of the article in that if we refuse to accept that you are indeed a woman on the "intraweb," then we don't have to watch ourselves and can just go about having fun as usual.
Take this all for what you will, but remember one thing:
Food for thought.
Good point Brimstone. It's another reason I don't always make myself known on the internet, even if I know I am amongst good people. I do notice though that when girls and guys get more at ease with each other and get to know each other better, it changes somewhat, and guys can get to be more...guys again.
I didn't know that the sexism thing existed until i read this =S Generally when i'm gaming (i'm female) i don't tell people what gender i am since it's not really relevant and something i'd think about while trying to complete a mission. I also had no idea that some guys think that female gamers don't exist. I think the truth is that girls who play games just don't think it's important enough to bring up; it's a game, why does it matter?
Though, looking back i did get people questioning my being female, asking for pictures etc. and going 'lolz , liek cyber wif me plz!!111' at random intervals, but i just learned to ignore them all.
Thank you very much.
Now, I need to add that I do understand where alot of you are coming from. When you tell people online that you're a woman, you're just trying to state a simple fact about yourself. You're not trying to get attention, but you have to realize that the attention from males generally goes directly to the nearest female.
I understand this because when I tell people that I'm from America, I'm just stating a fact. I'm not looking for a discussion on why my country is horrible or how we are all fat and lazy.
Now, onto a more useful suggestion:
This actually serves a purpose other than being cruel. You see, us guys need various things to keep our egos in check. Generally, we get that by hitting on women in real life and getting turned down more often than not. It not only keeps our heads from swelling, but teaches persistence as well. So, if you do that, any guy who reads/hears you do so will not only be more comfortable with you, but also gain some respect for you.
I know it sounds a bit unnecessary and mean, but it might just help.
Love the comic, too funny. :)
On Gaia (yes, I go to Gaia. Call me a faggot if you want, I still go there), someone made a thread advocating a rule stating that our Gaia avatars had to be the same gender as we were. So you could only play the same gender as you were.
One of the great people on there, AnarchoManiac, replied to this thread with a great perspective on the whole "prove ur a gurl" topic:
I LOL'd. :)
I think there may be a factor in WoW and other games that 'cyber' goes on; and it may be really disconcerting to find out the "Hot Chick" you were cybering with is actually a Trucker named Derek.
Just read that article. I am male, but I play with several females in EVE Online (that game being advertised all over this site). The leader of my alliance is female. The chief diplomat in my corp is female. And one of our directors is not only female, she's the CEO's RL wife.
I think EVE filtered out the thirteen-year-old idiot demographic with that treacharous learning curve.
Actually, I just had an idea for a pirating scam. Find guys who will insist on seeing pics. Tell them that you'll supply NAKED pics if they meet you at X asteroid belt. Then set a trap, kill them, and take their stuff.
The only people that have had a problem with me being a gamer are females. Mainly my year at high school. And maybe my flat mate, when i was moving in a told him I was a gamer, he nodded and said 'cool' then he saw my console and game collection and freaked out.
Online on some rpg i get the 'offers for help for favors' but from what i've been told you get them as male characters too. Never been told to prove my gender, most people ain't bothered.
This topic has to be on of the greats for inspiring endless debate.
A very interesting read, and some great points made in the article and by some of the people replying.
Considering your avatar, I find this hilarious.
Wow, this thread just won't stay down. It's a good article though.
So is this one:
Xbox live is becoming more equal, but as i play less and less nowadays i cant make a point with much evidence. Back in the ghost recon 1 days i played against girls and apart from the camping ones it was just like playing against anyone else.
Thebobmaster - I'm curious why you find my reply hilarious due to my avatar. Are you assuming I look down on women or am some sex-obsessed pervert because I have an avatar of Quagmire. Or is it simply I love Family Guy, and the only avatar I could find was one of Quagmire?
What a great article! It just goes to show you that over the years these topics are still the same. So sad...but I'm not surprised.
One explanation maybe...
I am single and looking, and i guess many guys playing do.
They play games.
That offcourse is a big flaw, because it means that a lot of time is spend on it, you do not get to any decent level anywhere without investing a lot of hours, two hours each weekend wont do.
Relationships often result in the choice "Girlfriend or games?"
If you are casual about games no brainer, if it is your mainhobby it means sacrificing something big.
So what does any middle income, avergae decent guy single and looking for does look for?
A girl who likes to play games!
Do girls in RL run around with a "gamer" tattoed to there foreheads?
So where do you meet this extremly precious and someway rare species who fullfills already the one big default every "gaming guy" looks for?
Online games!
I do not speak about "sex", I speak about living with someone and all that stuff.
So yes, girls in games will be as long an issue as long there are few girls playing games, or at least as long it is hard to find girls who are looking and do play games (and you can identify outside online games as such)
(And i consider the 14 year olds on hormones crapping all over the screen with "dirty language" annoying too)
It is a simple fact of life that people look for similar people to hook up with in something like permanent, and that one of the main issues is that booth should share the main interest so it is for booth sides fun to spend time together, and not one of booth yawning most the time.
So if i meet a girl inside a game i will offcourse be "interested" as much as i would be meeting a girl RL i know does game (As soon i get the feeling that i could imagine doing the "growing old together" thing with her)
I do not think that is weird or something like that, it is simply the way that I would like to have booth, a "permanent GF/SO" and play games, and on top of that do it with her together because i would consider that a lot of fun, more fun than getting my eardrums blastet visiting loud dance places, or leave a fortune going shopping, or crawl up mountains or do a lot of perfectly ok and not weird things i simply consider not fun (and no i am neither overweight or skinny)
I try to find out in some covert way if "she" is looking too, and if yes if i am "acceptable", if not she is a fellow gamer, period.
The sad truth is i know a lot of gaming girls, all happily married though, dammit!
Just read this today, and yeah, much of it is true from my experience. Being an avid gamer and also an active player of WoW, I have met many [guys] who hold this same attitude of "Oh ur a girl? ROFLPIX?".
Having played WoW for quite a while [read : 3 years] I have been thoroughly cured of any noobishness[everyone is a noob when they start out] and i find that i have become shy(hmm thats not really the word but closest i can think of right now)of telling others of my sex. I now prefer to let them ASSUME that I am male as well, to avoid the "how r u babe?" "been naughty hun?" "can i hav ur msn sexy?" "can i see ur pic plz" "wanta b my GF im 14" etc that I went through in my early noobier 1st server days.
That is the reason why, like the girl you described in your post (@OP) I REFUSE to open my mouth on vent. Even though I am not the only girl in my guild, I AM the only one who is...uh...of a younger age group? Yeah. Teen girl playing WoW on her own? First thing people read into that would be : 1. Fat, Ugly 2. Desperate 3.Internet Whore
I really hope that this sexist way of thought will dissolve in time, or at least the guys will let girls play in peace without thinking derogatory thoughts either cause we are gaming or we apparently 'suk' but I guess it will take a while. A long, long while. (Hope I'm not dead by then)..............
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Encountering Wii U error code 160-0103? You're not alone. The error has been around since the system's launch and is not unique to Super Smash Bros.
Mario Kart 8, Smash, and Hyrule Warriors also corrupt the flash memory, potentially causing this error.
Why isn't anybody mentioning that it's happening to less than 1% of people with Wii U.
Most likely only a handful of instances that are being re-reported over and again by everybody.
Making it seems as though it's happening to more people.
I have gotten some strange error codes and a "Please Wait" that basically freezes the system over the last couple of weeks. I DON'T have Smash Bros.
Basically I had to unplug the system to kill the cycle. It happened a handful of times. After the latest system update it seems fine so far.


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Connolly v. Nicollet Hotel Case Brief
Summary of Connolly v. Nicollet Hotel
P/S: jury brought verdict for P; trial cout gave JNOV to the D, finding P failed to prove negligence; court of appeals reversed, FOR P
F: P was walking along the sidewalk next to the hotel when she was struck in the eye with a "mud like substance"; at the time the D hotel was hosting convention that was extremely rowdy; D's manager had acknowledged that bad behavior the day before the incident
I: Whether negligence can be assigned to the hotel when the only place from which the substance could have come was the hotel.
H: Negligence may be inferred form all the facts and surrounding circumstances, and where the evidence of such facts and circumstances is such as to take the case out of the realm of conjecture and into the field of legitimate inference, a prima facie case is made
Rule: The law does not require every fact and circumstance which make up a case of negligence to be proved by direct and positive evidence; circumstantial evidence alone may authorize a finding of negligence.
DISSENT: "it is difficult to speculate as to what further precautions should reasonable have been required of defendant without making it an absolute insurer" –Think about policy issues surrounding a ruling for the plaintiff i.e. keeping a guard in every room to make sure nothing goes wrong??


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1. a flag or banner, as a military or naval standard used to indicate nationality.
2. a badge of office or authority, as heraldic arms.
3. a sign, token, or emblem.
4. U.S. Navy and Coast Guard. the lowest commissioned officer, ranking next below a lieutenant, junior grade, and equal to a second lieutenant in the Army.
5. Archaic. standard-bearer (def 1). (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ensign)
"Regulations require that each Sunday he hoist the ensign and he does, first thing."
- M. L. Stedman, The Light Between Oceans (2012)