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by James Slayton and Jim Calloway
Remember last week, you returned from the courthouse wondering about a certain point of law which was raised by the court. You go to your office mate(s) or partner(s), and talk about it.1 What's that you say? You don't have a partner or an office mate? Well you are in the majority of attorneys practicing in the state. Did you know that 63 percent of OBA members are solo practitioners or have only one office-mate?2 Did you know 84 percent of OBA members are in offices of four or less? Here is the percentage which completely surprised me: only nine percent of all OBA members are in firms of 10 or more.
This same OBA survey tells us more than 27 percent of all metropolitan attorneys are solo, and another 28 percent have only one partner. The non-metropolitan numbers are even higher. More than 41 percent of non-metropolitan attorneys are solo and another 40+ percent have only one partner. The bottom line is the solo and/or small firm setting is dominating in our industry, and it is in all likelihood here to stay. What the survey does not tell us (because they did not ask,) is what type of office situation these one and two member firms utilize. It is my guess that most, if not all, are in some type of office sharing arrangement. Someone is the landlord and everyone else is a tenant.
Office sharing has many advantages. Some are reviewed below. Some are not. Without any type of formal survey it is my belief the main reasons for office sharing are: 1) economy of scale; 2) simplicity and 3) availability of additional resources.
So exactly what is the best office sharing arraignment? It can be just about anything you want it to be. It is completely up to you. You can rent or lease from another solo or firm, or you can be the primary party liable on a lease or on a mortgage and have other attorneys rent space from you. I have observed it many ways. You can have a written or oral agreement. Each has its good and bad points. As attorneys we all have our own ideas of which one is best. But remember now you are dealing with your livelihood, your business, your own paycheck. It gets personal at this level. A good attorney understands this is a business.
I am not here to tell you to go and enter into a lease for a large space and try to find tenants, nor am I telling you to go to every attorney you know and ask for space to rent. Everyone must make their own decision regarding the type of office arraignment they choose. There are just a few rules which seem to transverse all small or solo office sharing situations, and most of these rules center around common courtesy. There are many decisions which go into picking the correct location, landlord, or co-tenants. What type of practice do they have? Is there a high risk of conflicts, and a low risk of referrals, or a low risk of conflict with a high probability of referrals? If there are tenants already in place, what has been the turnover and why? There are many questions to ask and many different possible answers.
The following is a short outline, in no order of importance, of some points that I believe are the major issues of office sharing:
1) Own your own practice. Specifically this goes to telephone numbers and computer systems. Although you can share some equipment, telephone systems, etc., the telephone number itself needs to be yours. If, for some reason you want to move, you don't want your number staying at the old address. It is your link to most of your new business and all of your old or existing business. As to computer systems, make sure and keep your data separate. Being tied into a master server and a print server may keep your startup costs down, but it leaves you trapped with someone else's system, which includes software, upgrades, and repairs. It can also be a major issue when the time comes to move. You also need to keep your data separate for the issue(s) of security and ethical reasons.
2) Office Sharing Situations have 'special' ethical repercussions. It is probably a good rule of thumb not to take a case when someone else in the same office is on the other side. Not only are there ethical questions, it can ruin a good working office situation. There are ethical decisions regarding the issue of office sharing out there so find them, read them and understand them. Your type of office situation also plays a part in this decision but overall it is probably a very good idea to avoid this problem. It is very hard to put up a 'paper wall' when one of the best reasons to office share is to have someone to bounce ideas around. (See number five below.) Subject to how 'tight' a group you are in, it may also be a good idea to do conflict checks with each other. Make sure your clients also understand who your partners are. Better yet make sure your clients understand who your partners aren't.
3) Understand there is a difference between friends, co-workers and someone else's staff. Just because you have nothing to do or want to waste the next 30 minutes you don't have a license to take over someone's secretary or another attorney or paralegal for 30 minutes. This does not mean you are not to be friendly, just appreciate the fact that someone else is paying for their time. This is not to be confused with asking questions or other 'what-if' situations. See number five below.
4) Someone has to be in charge of things. This includes items such as the coffee pot, the copy machine, the fax machine, research materials and anything else that is shared. Also you have to plan on having more than one person as the notary. You can not notarize your own signature and many times people are out of the office. Become part of the team and take charge of something.
5) One of the great things about office sharing is having someone to answer your questions. But remember, if you ask a question of another, respect their opinion. You may disagree, and you may want to do a short "what if" debate, but don't argue with them about it. That does not mean you can't discuss an interesting point of law. It just means that every point of law is not worth hours of discussion. Also remember you are dealing with your client's confidential information. Make sure your office mates understand this and/or use hypothetical type situations.
6) Always offer to help with the little things. There are few things more wasteful than an attorney going to the courthouse just to file a pleading, only to run into other attorneys from the same office who are also there just to file a pleading. It is a massive waste of time to see all your office mates at the same courthouse when one could have done it all. Offer to help and expect the same in return. For a few of the finer points see number seven below.
7) Don't take advantage of someone else's kindness (See number six above). It is one thing to file an entry of appearance or other pleading; something else to pay for and file a new petition, set the temporary order, get a judge's signature and deliver it all to a process server. Again, this situation may be acceptable, if all parties walk in with their eyes open and with the understanding you will do the same. Common courtesy goes farther than anything else.
8) If you share expenses, pay on time. The other person is not making any money on copies or the long distance or the fax machine or the coffee and probably not making money on the rent – just breaking even. They have to pay the payments or the phone line to the fax machine gets cut off, the coffee is not replaced or the copier is repossessed. Think of it this way: When the new copy machine comes in it may not include you as an operator and your coffee cup may turn up missing! On the other hand if the money is due to you understand sometimes people forget to write that check. (Did you send them a bill?) It is ok to remind them but common courtesy goes father than anything else (they may have be busy!) Remember the most common reason for office sharing is to save money. This is done by sharing overhead. The key word here is share – and in a timely fashion.
9) Understand the difference between a law partnership and office sharing. I use this analogy: a law office partnership is two or more people sharing the same checkbook. An office sharing situation is two or more people sharing the same front door. Your office mates have their own business/practice to run. Common courtesy goes farther than anything else.
10) Common courtesy goes farther than anything else. Has this been said before?
This list does not cover all the issues of office sharing. Much more could be written regarding the different types of legal relationships that can emerge from office sharing as well as types of leases and other written and/or oral agreements that may be involved. Many more pages could be written solely on the issue of ethics. Additionally there could be bar journals filled with horror stories of office sharing arraignments gone bad. Just keep in mind that in most cases just a little thoughtfulness and advance planning, as well as common courtesy, can take what could be a trying situation and make it one which leads to a very enjoyable and profitable office sharing arraignment.
Office sharing with other attorneys can be very beneficial to the solo attorney. It can be also useful for the attorney who only wants to practice part-time. Typically the rental payment will allow access to any resources in addition to the actual office such as the law library, fax machine, copier (the tenant will likely pay on a per copy basis,) receptionist, client waiting areas, kitchen, restrooms and so forth.
These arrangements can prove beneficial to all concerned as it is unlikely that all of the lawyers will want to use a law book, the conference room or the kitchen at the same time. A solo practitioner who is not office sharing will have to pay for these types of items whether they are being utilized or not. In addition, associating with other attorneys may provide valuable client referrals and some peers with whom to discuss legal strategies and interpretations. Perhaps the greatest difficulty in being a "true" solo practitioner is finding other attorneys with whom to "brainstorm" or seek advice without compromising client confidences.
A beginning lawyer may also be able to negotiate a rent reduction in return for a few hours of services to the landlord attorney each month for things like filing or routine court appearances.
However, there are several possible problem areas with office sharing arrangements. An attorney's reputation is his or her most important asset. You should be aware that many attorneys will tend to make assumptions about you personally based on the reputations of the attorneys with whom you choose to office share. It is important that you investigate the attorneys with whom you may be intending to office share as to their reputation in the legal community.
You may also find that the attorneys from whom you seek to sublet or office share are reluctant to enter into a written agreement. This is typically because they are as unsure as to whether the arrangement will work out on a long term basis. In addition, all attorneys are typically busy and no one wants to take the time to draft an agreement.
However, you are going to make a significant investment in moving into a location, perhaps installing a phone line and having business cards and stationary and envelopes printed. In most circumstances, unless you have known the attorney for a long time, you would want some memorandum or written contract and you would want to be entitled to some reasonable amount of notice even if the arrangement proves unsatisfactory to the other attorney (or to you).
Typically, you will find that if you agree to draft the agreement, subject to the other attorney's approval, these concerns can all be adequately and fairly addressed. The leasing attorney should be sure to specify in the agreement what is included in the monthly rental charge and what requires additional payment (such as copies). For a true office sharing agreement between co-equal attorneys, it is also important to spell out what is to be paid for collectively and what is the individual obligation of the attorney.
If purchases of equipment are to be made jointly, there should be some writing as to who owns them or what procedure is used to make a division in the event of a split. If you are not careful, the termination of an office sharing arrangement can have all of the aspects of the property settlement part of a divorce case.
Perhaps the most troubling concern about office sharing arrangements is the potential for ethical dilemmas or for exposure for liability for the malpractice of another attorney.
Even if you are not truly a partner with another attorney, you may still find yourself in legal jeopardy based on a claim that the client believed he was represented by a partnership. Evidence supporting this allegation could include answering the telephone with a firm name, having a stationary with all of the lawyers' names on it or referring to one another as "partner" in front of the client. You may find that your malpractice insurance carrier will refuse to insure you if there is letterhead, a sign or a receptionist answering the telephone combining several attorney's names. The best initial solution to the malpractice exposure is to require that all of the attorneys who are sharing offices obtain malpractice insurance with the same carrier and in similar limits and to provide proof of coverage to each other.
The following language in an office sharing agreement might serve to prevent some future troubles.
"The undersigned lawyers agree that they are all solo practitioners who are pooling to share office expenses but are not a partnership. Each attorney agrees to use his best efforts to ensure that all clients that he or she represents understand that there is no existing law partnership. All attorneys agree that they will not represent clients without a written fee agreement and that all such written fee agreements shall all contain the following language: "Client understands that he/she is contracting only with the attorney whose name appears herein and that the attorney is not in a partnership with the other attorneys located in the same office suites. Only the attorney whose name appears herein is responsible for the client's case."
Author's disclaimer: This is suggested, untested language and no warranty is made or implied.
Potential conflicts of interest are another area of significant concern in an office sharing relationship. There are significant economic benefits that occur from office sharing. An attorney should accept that there will be some detriments and some cases that the office sharing situation will render you unable to handle. It is not the purpose of this article to discuss conflicts of interest in depth. These matters are generally discussed in the Rules of Professional Conduct Rules 1.7, 1.8, 1.9 1.10 and 2.2.
Since lawyers who are merely sharing expenses are not considered to be a law firm, many attorneys are often not as concerned about conflicts of interest as they would be in a partnership context. They should be. As a practical matter, many of the most significant potential conflicts of interest will be recognized by the clients or perceived even when they do not in fact appear. If the lawyer down the hall represents the wife in the divorce case, you are probably not going to convince the husband that you can adequately and fairly protect his interest. Frankly, you should not even try to convince him and then represent him.
It is theoretically possible to construct a "Chinese wall" between yourself and another lawyer in the office sharing relationship. This is a risky course of action, however, and is not recommended as a general rule. Before even considering that course of action, you should consider the anticipated fee that might be earned in relation to the potential problems with a later claim of malpractice or ethical violation, the extent to which such representation could affect your relationship or future referrals with the other attorney, the difficulty in securing client confidentiality under such situations and the personal pain that a bar complaint would cause.
Both lawyers would have to ensure that the files were stored and locked in such a location that the other lawyer or her staff could not have access to the client's confidential information. If a receptionist is shared, clients must be cautioned to not leave messages with the receptionist and even such things as sharing the same copy machine could prove to be a problem. Having the attorney's computers networked where they can share files is another problem area. In fact the District of Columbia Bar Association Ethics Opinion 303 (adopted Feb. 20, 2001) states that the above measures are required in any office sharing arrangement.
Hopefully after an examination of the facts the attorneys will conclude that this is a situation that is would be better to be safe than sorry. See Colorado Bar Association Ethics Committee Formal Opinion 89 (Adopted Sept. 21, 1991, amended April 19, 1992) for a discussion of the many issues involved when office sharing attorneys represent clients with conflicting interests.
The "safe" way is to agree in advance that the lawyers will observe the same conflict of interest rules as if they were in a partnership, even though they are not. However, they should be aware that many bar associations have issued ethics opinions that are very restrictive regarding office sharing situations.
Most important office sharing tip: My most important office sharing tip echoes Mr. Slayton's. Your phone number is your lifeline for business. You will certainly be passing out business cards with your phone number on them and sending letters. You may be doing some advertising where your phone number is presented. Former satisfied clients who wish to refer you new business will typically do so by the phone number on the business card from your prior representation.
It is well worth the investment and expense in an office sharing or subletting arrangement to pay for an additional telephone line for you with your own phone number that you may take with you should the relationship dissolve. This can be done either with a telephone that actually rings on your secretary's desk or it can just be one of the multiple lines that 'the receptionist' answers for all of the lawyers. Your office mates will probably appreciate the additional telephone line and will appreciate your business foresight.
A separate telephone line will also allow you to have all of your long distance calls billed to one number so that splitting up the long distance phone calls between lawyers will not take any of your time. Although business telephone lines are a significant expense this is an important investment into the stability of your future practice.
(Authors' Note: This article was orginally prepared as two papers presented at the 2004 OBA Solo and Small Firm Conference. Since office sharing arrangements are becoming more common among some Oklahoma lawyers, both papers are presented here in shortened format to give a wide range of opinions. The opinions expressed herein are those of the authors and not the Oklahoma Bar Association. Even the authors reserve the right to change their minds next week.)
1. You can also post these questions on the OBA-NET but that is a topic for another paper.
2. OBA 2002 Membership Survey, 73 OBJ 3413 (Dec. 7,2002).
About the Authors
James Slayton's law practice has emphasis in the areas of probate, real property, collection and domestic/family law. He also serves as an administrative law judge for the Oklahoma State Department of Health and the Oklahoma Department of Mental Health and Substance Abuse. He received a bachelor's degree in business administration from OU in 1976 and a J.D. from the OCU School of Law in 1986.
Jim Calloway is the director of the OBA Management Assistance Program and manager of the OBA Solo and Small Firm Conference. As a member of the ABA, he serves as chair of the ABA TECHSHOW 2005 board, on which he has served as a board member for the past three years. He has made over 200 presentations across the country on law office management, legal technology, ethics and business operations.
Originally published in the Oklahoma Bar Journal November 6 , 2004 - Vol. 75; No.31
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If you ever have the time I would like to ask you if you could write how you have dealt with losing friendships due to this people believing NMIL lies and manipulations and not wanting no longer associate with you because you are "the bad guy" I'm having a hard time with this, some of the friendships DH and I lost were people who we were friends for years and didn't even knew who was NMIL and NFIL until contact by them so how this happened? how can a heal? how can I find peace?
Anon, you have raised such great questions here and I feel honored that you have asked me for my opinions. I'm going to break down my answers into a couple parts because I think it might make for easier reading, and I'd like to tackle two key components to the issue: How I have handled friendship losses, and how my husband has handled friendship losses.
Here we go:
Q. How is it possible that NMIL has turned your own friends against you?
A. In every case, I can not come up with one single instance where the people who turned against us were ever really loyal to us to begin with. In essence, anyone who knew my husband and called him their "friend" but who turned around so easily to side with NMIL, was never, at any point, a real friend. I can not come up with one example of my husband's past relationships where the individuals in question did not automatically side with his FOO. I like to use Exhibit A often as a prime example of the "friend who was never really a friend."
First, a bit of background: Exhibit A had been present in DH's life from the time they were both young children. Their presence in each others' lives had been predetermined by their FOOs long before they had the power to make up their own minds about what kind of relationship they would have. Fine, this often happens with young children - parents simply get to make the choice about who their children associate with at a young age. So, DH and Exhibit A grew up together. They had no choice. They attended each others' social events, they had mutual acquaintances, their parents were "friends." Exhibit A was like many of the children that DH grew up with: female, superficial, and taught to be dependent on my husband, even as a child, for their emotional well-being. DH called her a "friend" because he didn't know what a real friend was. He didn't realize that he had a choice in the matter, and that this person (like so many others) had never truly been loyal to him or wanted him to be happy.
When DH met me and fell in love, the drama really started. All of the people in his past life stomped their feet and waved their arms, trying to get DH's attention back on them. They cried, they manipulated, they gossiped. They listened to NMIL's lies because they were already vapid and disloyal to begin with.
I can't say I ever officially "met" Exhibit A. We happened to be at the same party in the same house, but we were never introduced. The reason is this: Exhibit A knew her place. She is far too insignificant a person in my husband's life to have introduced herself to me, or for him to have introduced me to her. Simply put: Exhibit A was as unimportant to my husband as my husband was to her. The biggest difference is that my husband would never have gone out of his way to try to hurt her, slight her, or badmouth her behind her back. HE has more class than that.
The day after the party at which we were both present but not introduced, Exhibit A wrote a long rant on her blog (which I didn't find until about a year later, but trust me, I didn't need to ever find it to know these were the kinds of things being said) which included phrases like this: "I HATE YOUR GIRLFRIEND. SHE'S NASTY AND ANNOYING. AND CONTROLLING. AND NOT ATTRACTIVE. I can't believe you would get yourself into this." And this: "Your family and friends don't like her." And this, "You found the wrong girl." Sheesh, honey, insecure much? Jealous much? Hateful much? Disloyal much? And, not only did she not have the balls to say any of this to my husband directly, but she didn't possess the empathy necessary to come across as being someone who was acting out of anything other than her own personal selfish agenda.
I've pointed out to DH what is obvious to me in circumstances like this: People like Exhibit A are not, nor have they ever been, his real friends. Three days after the birth of our DD, Exhibit A wrote the following email to DH:
From: Exhibit A
To: DH
Sent: November 3, 2009
Subject: None
Heyy SIL told me the good news! Congrats to you and [my name spelled wrong]!! How are mom & baby doing? When are you going to be in town? I can't wait to meet your little baby girlll! :) Let me know if you need anything. :)
Vapid, I know. But can you see the switch? Can you see the obviously fake, over-the-top declaration of her "love" for my husband? This twit who just a few months back was declaring her hatred of the mother of his baby, and hoping for the end of their relationship, was turning around and professing her "care" and "concern" for them. DH fed into her lies unknowingly. He believed that just because she said she cared, it meant she actually did. He told her he "hoped she could meet DD soon" and that we'd be up her way in a few months, so maybe that would be a possibility.
On her blog, this is what she had to say just six days after that brief email exchange: "My best friend had a baby! Well, his fiance did. It's bittersweet though. She completely changed him. I haven't seen him since the Fourth of July because of her! Ugh she makes me so angry. I haven't even seen the baby since she was born...I'm still not sure how I feel about it. I just feel like she hates me, and I barely even know her. I think I've spoken once to her, and I said "Hello". DH and I spent a while trying to figure out what could have possibly gotten her panties all in a twist. The most likely thing we came up with is that a few days after this email was sent, DH emailed her again and politely requested that she remove the photo of our daughter that she had posted on her Facebook page without our knowledge or consent. So, like...was that her idea of her "best friend" being completely changed? Because before, he totally would have let her post pictures of him and his most private moments...or the most private moments of his loved ones...all over her Facebook page and not said anything about it? And now all of a sudden, he had the gall (the nerve!) to ask her to remove a photo of his infant daughter from the nosy eyes of the internet?
And it's funny, isn't it, Dear Reader, when you take a look at who it is that she's professing is doing all the "hating." Funny, also, that this person who was STILL calling my husband her "best friend" could really be saying these kinds of things. What kind of person did she think her "best friend" was, that he could be so "completely changed" so easily by someone else? How funny that she thought she was important enough to have met our infant daughter, just days after her birth. Let's face it, Dear Reader, the only people who are lucky enough to see a newborn are usually the immediate family and closest loved ones of the new parents. People who are less important don't get to see the baby in the hospital, or even at home in the weeks that follow baby's arrival. Having a baby is much too special a time to share with non-important, invasive, and obnoxiously vapid people.
So again, I'll point out the obvious: Exhibit A, like so many others, was no friend.
And there is more, Dear Reader. The following is something that I have not previously shared on my blog. On November 4, 2010, Exhibit A had a short interlude with a fellow blogger:
Exhibit A wrote:
he's too weak to stick up for our 18 year "best friendship" for a year of knowing her...it sucks & i'm sorry someone else has to feel this kind of thing.
Exhibit A's Blogger Buddy:
wow! 18 years makes my 7 years look like nothing. It's a terrible feeling. You'd think that if two friends make it through at least few years together, anything that happens can be worked out. I was sad when he was just living 2 hours away because I couldn't see him like I used to. When I heard about everything that happened, I've felt...weird. Like, I cried the day I heard about it...and that's it. Kind of a numb feeling. It sucks, I'm sorry you had to go through it too!
Exhibit A:
yeah, when you hear things so out of character, it puts you back. i was stunned. this happened a little over a year & it's still hard. we haven't spoken, really, since he told me. it might take time to forgive, but if he's honestly sorry, he'll show it.
Before I go into my analysis of Exhibit A's ridiculousness, I first have to say that I briefly looked into her blogger buddy's story. Dear Reader, Exhibit A was comparing her own story to that of someone who wrote about losing a guy friend whom she had romantic inclinations toward because he chose a path of drugs and crime. Wow! I mean, what a comparison to make with the man who fell in love, got married, and had babies. Striking, the similarities there, eh?
Having said that, this commentary, in which Exhibit A claimed that my DH should be looking for her forgiveness, occurred almost a year to the day after the birth of our DD. This commentary begs the question: What is it she thinks he should be sorry for? Having a baby? Getting married? Choosing his wife over any of his past relationships? Choosing his wife over Exhibit A? Choosing his daughter over Exhibit A? Choosing the depth created by only one year of knowing his wife over the superficiality of knowing Exhibit A for eighteen years?
It's puzzling, Dear Reader, it truly is, that anyone who calls themselves a friend could claim, "this happened a little over a year & it's still hard. we haven't spoken, really, since he told me." What is the "this" she refers to, if not the birth of his daughter? It's bizarre, at best, lunacy at worst.
Again, Dear Reader, this is all evidence that Exhibit A was never really a friend. So, if the question is: How is it possible that NMIL has turned your own friends against you? Then the answer must be: They already were against you.
Q: Okay, but what about in instances that aren't as obvious as this? What about the friendships you had more faith in? How did those friends get to be so easily convinced that people like myself or anon were the "bad guys?"
A: This answer is kind of two-fold. First, I'd like to talk about my DH's so-called friendships with Pig and Double Agent. Both of these individuals were considered by my husband, at different times, his "best friend." Double Agent was the best man at our wedding. Pig was his best friend throughout most of high school and college. But let me ask you this, Dear Readers and Friends: Would a friend who was truly loyal to my husband, and who respected him, be okay with NMIL calling them up to vent about his new girlfriend? Would a friend who was truly loyal to my husband be okay with NMIL sending him secretive emails in which she discussed her "concerns" about DH marrying the woman he was in love with? Would a friend who truly knew my husband believe her when she said, "He doesn't really love her, she's just controlling him," or would he believe my husband who said, "I love her!" Would a friend who was truly loyal to my husband be okay with receiving a secret invitation to her holiday party, against my husband's knowledge? Would a friend who was truly loyal to my husband still want to attend that holiday party, even knowing that my husband would not be there? Would a friend who was truly loyal to my husband try to sabotage any relationship that truly made my husband happy? Would a friend who was truly loyal spend more time trying to convince him to make amends with his mother than he would listening to and feeling for my husband? The list goes on and on, Dear Reader, and the answer to all of these questions is one hundred percent NO. These behaviors don't describe a person worthy of being called "friend." How did my husband deal with the losses of these friendships? He fought it at first, unable to believe that the people he'd known since childhood did not have his best interests at heart, nor did they ever. Then, he mourned his losses, coming to realize that they were never fighting for him to begin with. Then, he cut his losses. Had he done anything else, he would have risked drowning.
He could not remain in contact with people who chose to believe so easily that his wife had "changed him." He could not remain in contact with people who continued to communicate with his NM, especially after he asked them to stop. He could not remain in contact with people, even those he once considered friends, who cared so little about his thoughts and feelings.
The second aspect of my answer is, of course, how I have handled my own loss of friendships. Now, unlike Anon, I had the "pleasure" of experiencing two manipulative relationships in my recent past: one with a long-term boyfriend, and one with a friend/roommate. I did not go into my relationship with NMIL or her pions, having any sort of disillusions that I could maintain healthy friendships with any of them. The only person I would have considered a "friend" would have been Double Agent's wife, whom I'll call Freckles.
Freckles and I got along well and I liked her. Had the circumstances been different - had her husband not been a cruel, holier-than-thou, pompous and arrogant jerk who maintained loyalties to NMIL, I could have been her friend. Freckles had been the one to inform me that NMIL had invited them to her holiday party that year. Her reason for telling me was because she wanted to know if DH and I were going to be attending. I told her no and gave her some of our reasons. Then I turned the tables and asked her if she found it strange at all that they might be attending a party of NMIL's without my husband being there. She said, "Yes, actually. It used to be that we'd go to the party and hang out with DH. Now, we'll be going to the party and hanging out with...NMIL...and her friends." I also asked her if she found it strange that their invitation to the party had been separate from the invitation NMIL had sent to my husband. She found that a little strange too.
But in the end, her loyalties were to her husband, who was determined to go to NMIL's party, with or without his supposed "best friend." They attended NMIL's holiday party, not just that year, but the next as well, without DH in attendance.
And in more recent months, when DH finally worked up the nerve to confront Double Agent about this behavior, Double Agent had this to say: When I was having serious relationship troubles with my mom (junior year of college) I didn't just write her off. I worked on the relationship and didn't try to destroy it further by ignoring her at holidays and important events. It's obvious that you're not interested in reconciliation...Do you think that avoiding important things like her Christmas party two years in a row is doing anything but demonstrating a resolve not to be reconciled?
In the meantime, I had to deal with the loss of my almost-but-not-quite-friendship with Freckles. We had the following email exchange:
From: Freckles
To: Jonsi
Sent: Tue, June 7, 2011 @ 5:22 PM
Subject: hi
So I was trying to wait to talk to you till our husband's were talking in a friendly way since you didn't seem to want to talk if they weren't talking...but its been awhile and I'm wondering how you are doing...I'm little confused about what's going on with your DH and Double Agent - Double Agent doesn't think your DH needs anymore help than anyone else (I mean literally anyone) so I'm kinda confused why they're having problems- or maybe that's just an underlying issue of something I don't know. Double Agent really respects your DH and doesn't see him or anyone who has different beliefs about anything as less than anybody else. As you and I very much know, they aren't great communicators, and maybe Double Agent is just failing to communicate that his world view is that no one is perfect and that everyone (himself, me, the best people you know) still need some kind of help. That doesn't make one person less than another, it just means we're all equal in being imperfect. The other thing that confuses me is that Double Agent isn't trying to help your DH, your DH brought it up to begin with and I'm guessing it came from a conversation with you since you tend to have meaningful conversations, so that's why I don't understand his offense to my husband's answer. I'd hate to see them end a lifelong friendship over what seems to be a misunderstanding or miscommunication...if this is really even the issue to begin with. If I make no sense or am totally off base, its probably because Double Agent doesn't always make sense when he tells me stuff. Anyway, I've stayed out of it for awhile telling myself it's not my place to get involved, but the possibility of losing his best friend is hurting Double Agent, and I obviously care about him a lot. Maybe you could shed some light on it since I'm sure you and your DH have talked, or talk to your DH, or...some other kind of help...This e-mail wasn't supposed to be about them, I just thought of you today and wondered how you were.
From: Jonsi
To: Freckles
Sent: Thu, June 9, 2011 @ 8:25:11 AM
Subject: re: hi
Hi Freckles,
I am really glad to hear that you are well - I've been thinking of you the past few weeks. I can tell you don't really understand what's going on and I'm genuinely sorry to say that I can't clarify it for you.
But I do want you to know that I really am sad things are working out this way. I don't want to hurt your feelings or make you think that I am choosing not to have a relationship with you because of something you have done. You have been a kind and thoughtful friend, and I haven't honestly had many of those in my life. I wish that things had worked out differently. From my heart, I wish you well.
From: Freckles
To: Jonsi
Sent: Tue, June 7, 2011 @ 5:22 PM
Subject: re: re: hi
Hi Jonsi,
Thanks for the nice e-mail :) I wish we could be friends :( Maybe the guys will get it figured out.
Yep, I am definitely confused, but so is Double Agent. First it was an out of the blue e-mail that said Double Agent needed to stop communicating with your DH's mom (a reasonable request but there hasn't been a single word exchanged since christmas anyway) with a threat that if he didn't your DH couldn't be friends with him. I figured your DH is just learning how to confront people so its gonna be a little rough in the beginning. Then it's this difference in religious beliefs thing and how Double Agent must therefore look down on your DH. It's like your DH is fishing for a good excuse to end their friendship and not telling Double Agent the real reason. I definitely understand not wanting to tell me what is going on, but maybe you could pass the message on to your DH that Double Agent respects him and is hurting over losing his best friend, especially without understanding what he did to deserve it...? I hope they get whatever is wrong worked out (or at least talk in person about it) and that things are going great for you.
I explained my feelings about all of this to my dear, dear friend Upsi, in an email. I never responded to Freckles' last email to me. These were my thoughts, which I shared with Upsi:
DH and I discussed - he said Freckles' email didn't sit well with him and he couldn't put his finger on why. I think it's just more of the same - She seems to want ME to be the go between, and to act as the protector of HER HUSBAND'S honor. She told me to "pass the message on to my DH that Double Agent respects him and is hurting over losing his best friend, especially without understanding what he did to deserve it...?" In other words, She wants me to tell DH that Double Agent respects him (I don't believe that) and that he's hurting (He may be, but there isn't anything I can do about that; that's up to Double Agent to fix) and that my husband didn't do a good enough job explaining the problem.
I can see that she cares about her husband. Bully for them, I suppose. But this is not the way to go about helping anyone. I can't and won't convey any messages from them to my husband - besides the fact that it doesn't make any sense (and stinks of drama), I disagree with what they seem to want to tell my husband anyway. And, HELLO, if Double Agent had a problem with any of this, he should have said so, instead of emailing my husband in the past few weeks about video games and other inane topics. (DH did not respond to these emails when he received them). It's absolutely ridiculous for me to give my husband a message from Freckles, from Double Agent. Like, whoa holy-watered-down communication here, Batman!
There is a part of me that wants to say: Understanding is overrated. I wish things had turned out differently.
By the end of DH's talk with Double Agent, he was no longer asking for understanding because he wasn't going to get it. He was asking for Double Agent to respect his feelings and needs. It doesn't matter if Double Agent understands, it only matters that he does what my DH asked of him, which was perfectly reasonable. I like "I wish things had turned out differently" because, unlike the last time I used those words, it sounds much more final. I already told Freckles, twice now, that I'm not going to talk about this with her, and both times, she came back with, "Okay, I understand. BUT..." which means she doesn't really understand.
I felt Upsi's take on all of this was only the teensiest bit harsh. Mostly, it made me laugh, and I welcomed her honest opinions. It helped me get over the friendship that never was. (Upsi's commentary in blue):
Hi Jonsi,
Thanks for the nice e-mail :) [TRANSLATION: WOW I EXPECTED YOU TO BE A BIG BITCH, INSERT MEANINGLESS SMILEY FACE] I wish we could be friends :( [TRANSLATION: I WISH YOU WERE THE KIND OF WOMAN WHO WOULD TRASH TALK HER HUSBAND WITH ME, INSERT LAME FROWNY FACE]. Maybe the guys will get it figured out. [TRANSLATION: WITHOUT OUR HELP, THESE DUMBASS MEN ARE DOOMED]
Yep, I am definitely confused, but so is Double Agent. [TRANSLATION: IF DH HAD DONE A BETTER JOB EXPLAINING THIS, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO RESPECT HIS FEELINGS AND WISHES - WITHOUT AN EXPLANATION WE CAN ACCEPT, WE DO NOT RESPECT HIM] First it was an out of the blue e-mail that said Double Agent needed to stop communicating with DH's mom (a reasonable request but there hasn't been a single word exchanged since christmas anyway) with a threat that if he didn't DH couldn't be friends with him. [TRANSLATION: IF DH HAS SUCH A BIG PROBLEM, HE SHOULD HAVE SAID SOMETHING EARLIER THAN HIS EMAIL "OUT OF THE BLUE" - HE'S WRONG ABOUT Double Agent'S COMMUNICATIONS WITH NMIL AND HIS "THREAT" WAS UNFAIR] I figured DH is just learning how to confront people so its gonna be a little rough in the beginning. [TRANSLATION: DH IS AN EMOTIONAL CRIPPLE AND HE'S JUST LEARNING HOW TO DO THINGS NORMAL ADULTS DO, AND WE HAVE TO PAY THE PRICE - BUT WE'RE GOOD CHRISTIANS AND WE "UNDERSTAND"]. Then it's this difference in religious beliefs thing and how Double Agent must therefore look down on DH. [TRANSLATION: DOUBLE AGENT WOULD NEVER LOOK DOWN ON ANYONE, HE'S AN AMAZING PERSON WITH NOTHING BUT LOVE FOR DH (EYEROLL)] It's like DH is fishing for a good excuse to end their friendship and not telling Double Agent the real reason.[TRANSLATION: DH IS TOO WEAK AND PUSSIFIED TO COME RIGHT OUT AND SAY WHAT HE FEELS, SO HE MUST BE LOOKING FOR AN EXCUSE TO CUT US OFF WITHOUT HAVING TO DEAL WITH OUR FEELINGS ABOUT IT] I definitely understand not wanting to tell me what is going on [TRANSLATION: YOU SHOULD BE TELLING ME WHAT'S GOING ON], but maybe you could pass the message on to DH that Double Agent respects him and is hurting over losing his best friend, especially without understanding what he did to deserve it...? [TRANSLATION: WILL YOU ASSIST ME IN GAINING THE UPPER HAND IN THIS CONFLICT SO THAT WE DON'T FEEL BAD ANYMORE AND WE CAN REST EASY THAT IT'S ALL DH'S FAULT?] I hope they get whatever is wrong worked out (or at least talk in person about it) and that things are going great for you, [TRANSLATION: WHATEVER IS WRONG COULDN'T POSSIBLY BE A FUNDAMENTAL INCOMPATIBILITY BETWEEN THEM, SO LET'S GET THIS THING WRAPPED UP SO WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT ANYMORE - THEY SHOULD TALK IN PERSON BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE BELIEVE IS THE SOLUTION TO ALL THIS NONSENSE - OH BY THE WAY HOPE YOU'RE GREAT!! PHONY INSINCERE EXPRESSIONS OF GOODWILL ALWAYS WORK FOR ME IN SUGARCOATING MY SHITTY MESSAGES].
That's it, NO MORE MR. NICE UPSI!
Anyway, that was the long-winded answer to the question: What about the friendships you had more faith in? How did those friends get to be so easily convinced that people like myself or anon were the "bad guys?" The short answer is: It didn't take much convincing because they were already convinced of it. No loyal friend who knows you well and has at least half a brain could be so easily fooled by any NMIL's ridiculous manipulations.
And finally, last question:
Q: How can you heal and find peace after NMIL has destroyed any of the relationships you had that she could have sunk her disgusting claws into?
A: Understand that anyone who could be so easily swayed by NMIL was never really loyal to you to begin with, and then find authentic, more meaningful relationships. Easier said than done, I know, particularly if you've not had many loyal friends over the years. But the truth of the matter is that narcs will destroy any relationships you have with any mutual party because anyone who chooses to be a "mutual party" with a narc is just drinking the Koolaide anyway. It's a harsh and sad truth, but it's the only way I know how to say it. A true friend would never betray you to your NMIL or any other manipulative person. My advice would be to start forging friendships with people who are genuine and bright enough to see the dangers of allying themselves with narcs. Living in reality and in Truth, is the only way I want to live. Period.
Anon, I'm sorry if I've bowled you over with my long-winded opinions. I share only what I know from my own personal experiences, and I would be particularly interested in hearing from anyone who has had experiences that differ from my own. I hope that I've answered all of your questions and that you might benefit, even in some small way from my insights. I was sorry to hear that you and your loved ones have been hurt by a narcissist, but I'm happy to know that you're out there seeking answers. Keep fighting the good fight, Anon.


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Slavik doesn't carry around his belongs with him, preferring to travel the world lightly. Despite a friendship with Yurko, Slavik never revealed his personal history nor the circumstances that caused his homelessness. But, Yurko does note that Slavik may have a developmental disability.
Yurko says on his site, "Slavik says that you should care about health and keep away from those who could ruin your peace of mind… Slavik still has a sense of beauty, style and fashion and his suits are not random. It is not accidental that he changes them every day, adjusting them carefully to weather and season."
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I was going to skip this week but Im loving the John Freida deal! So a quick stop wont hurt ;)
Shouldn't we end up making more money off the John Frieda deal than what was posted? It doesn't look like 50% was taken off the 2nd item.
That is exacly what I was going to post about now when I was making my list it doesnt add up. You're right we would by using the 5off coupon :)
i only got a 2 dollar coupon in my paper
does anyone has the $3 off 15 survey code that you don't need please email me at email@example.com thank you
I was just about to ask the same thing. I need a survey code if anyone has any extras please e-mail me at firstname.lastname@example.com. thanks
That is not a good idea. You will be basically giving false input to a store that you have never seen nor even heard about.
Can someone help me understand how Rite Aid works? I dont usually shop drug stores. What is +up? Example: $2 +UP WYB Pampers Diapers or Easy Ups Jumbo Packs at $8.97. Is it a in store credit type coupon or does the $2 come off the total. I have a $5 off pampers coupon so I want to know how this works. Thanks!!
iF THE ITEM IS 2.99 YOU PAY 2.99 BUT THEY GIVE YOU A COUPON TO BUY ANYTHING ELSE IN THE STORE. CVS AND WALGREENS DOES THAT TO.
There's a Rite Aid Getting Started Guide at the top of this site.
cAN I ASK WHERE U GOT YOUR $5 OFF COUPON FROM?
I have a friend who said she got some $5 diaper coupons when she had her baby, either from the doctor or the hospital.
I got a pack of diapers that was defective. I called to complain b/c they were ripped and folded over. It was a waste of money since I couldn't use them. They sent me a prepaid envelope to send some of the diapers back in. Then once I did that they sent me several $5 off coupons. I'm trying to get the best use out of them.
the up rewards are printed after your first purchase to use on your next transaction. So if you pay 8.97 and use 5.00 Q then you will pay 3.97 and the register will print $2 up reward for next transaction.
Your transaction would be: Pampers $8.97 less your $5 coupon, so you'd pay $3.97 +tax oop, then get back a $2+up on your receipt. The +up reward is like a coupon, almost like cash, that is good towards your next purchase of most anything (certain exclusions like gift cards, tobacco, alcohol, etc.). You could take that $2 and buy something you need, like more diapers, newspapers, or even something else that will generate more +ups. Jenny has a great link up top when you have time to read, it's Rite Aid Getting Started Guide. hth and good luck!
guess i should've refreshed before i replied, didn't know you already had so many responses!
Great! Thanks! I found the getting started guide. I have one more question. If I got a pack of diapers and used the $5 coupon. When the $2+up prints can I turn around and use that along with another $5 coupon on another pack of diapers? That would make the pack only $1.97!!!
yes, and this is what is called smart shopping. You may want to become more creative and smarter and buy some product that would generate 100% or close to 100% UP reward $1 or $2. So you might end up paying NOT even $1.97 for the second diaper. I can think of
buy Oral B for 2.57, use $2 coupon, owe 57 cents and get extra $2 UP that you can combine for your second diaper. Thus, you just paid 57 cents instead of $1.97 from your pocket for your second diaper and even got a brush for free. Though, you might need a small filler item to bring your total up to use the maximum amount of UP reward. RA does not adjust UP reward value down
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Quick question.
FOr this product, $2 +UP WYB Colgate 360 Surround Manual Toothbrush 1 ct., at $2.99 LIMIT 4
If I buy 4 of them in one transaction will $8 +UPs print out, or would I have to do them all in Different transactions?
Thank you!
You can do all in one transaction. The receipt will print out 4 separate $2 UP+
so is the Nivea deal still on? :)
The $40 +UP is 100 days. So it's not even just a month long one, it ends at the beginning of October.
I usually shop at Walgreens but am thinking of trying Rite Aid this week. I read Jenny's Rite Aid Getting Started Guide about Single Check Rebates and it says you can use coupons and still get the full rebate amount. I am curious if you use UP rewards to lower the OOP, will you still get the full rebate amount? Thanks for the help. :)
Hi everyone :) I have never shopped at Rite Aid, so I have a question about the UP credits. Is there a waiting period to use the UP credits? Meaning can I use the UP credits the same day on another transaction? Thanks :)
You can use it the same day.
Yeah, you can stand at the register and do back-to-back transactions if you want, using the UPs you just earned. :)
sorry for the somewhat out of place comment, but dont know where else to post. I just moved to another city in an apartment and have no idea about how newspapers work with that..can you still get newspapers delivered to an apartment? I'm asking because I've never seen anyone with a newspaper on their porch here so I wasn't sure how to find that out. I also dont know what newspaper for my area has inserts, if any. I live half way in between two major cities (an hour each way) so I didnt know if it's possible to get one of those delivered here..the ones I've seen being sold in the stores dont have inserts. Basically, is there a site which will tell you all this information?
Most newspapers will deliver to any address you give them. Just call the one you want delivered and ask for a home delivery to be set up.
ok thanks, if only I knew which ones delivered that have inserts since the ones I've seen in stores didnt have inserts
I live in an apartment building and they deliver right to my door. Also call the biggest newspapers and ask them if they have coupon inserts and if so will they deliver to your address. You could also post which cities you live between and there is probably someone on here who could give you alot more specific details and help you better. Good luck couponing!
I live in a condo building and they lay newspaper on the mat in front of my door.
at p&g solutions you can look up where to get their coupons. http://www.pgeverydaysolutions.com/pgeds/brandsaver-coupons.jsp
Also, I live on the third floor and they deliver a paper to me. I also was able to go on the paper's website and sign up for 3 free weeks of the paper before paying for anything, you may want to check that out.
How do single check rebates work? Never used that before.
You have to create an account on their website, be aware, it is seperate from the normal Rite Ait account on their home page. You have to follow a link specifically to a Single Check Rebate sign on page. You should put every receipt you get from Rite Aid in there for processing because sometimes there're rebates on stuff that aren't posted. Then, once a month, you can have the rebate check mailed to you.
Does Rite Aid bill the manufacturer of the product for the +UP reward? I'm asking because a few weeks back I bought some Renpure conditioner. It was on sale for $4.99 with a $4.99 +UP (so it was free). There was also a "Try it Free" rebate tag on the item. The tag did say "Not combined with other offers" but I figured that meant "Renpure offers" not Rite Aid offers. They denied me my rebate. After a few emails one of Renpure's reps stated that they actually pay for the +UP reward (not Rite Aid), and so basically they have already paid for me to try the item for free. I honestly didn't care to make money on the deal, but decided that since I've never done a "money maker" I'd try it out. It was also my first time dealing with a mail-in rebate (so annoying to have to give them my original receipt, I had nothing to show as evidence once questions of it came up). But I was just curious, is it true what they said? Does the manufacturer pay for the +UP reward? UH, that's kinda crazy if they do. Because it's for future store credit, not specifically to be spent on that product again. Anyone know?
Yes, the manufacturer pays for the +up rewards. They pay for the video values also. I guess you could think of the +up reward as an instant rebate. Also, you should make a copy of your receipt before you send it off for a rebate. Some stores can print you a duplicate receipt when you check out. I've never tried that at Rite Aid, though.
Interesting… but why do they let you use a Video Value coupon with a MQ? Wouldn't that be the Manuf. paying both?
That's just Rite Aid's policy. I hope they never change it! And yes, the manufacturer pays both.
i tried it too – oh well – i thought it meant combined with rite aid – wasted 50 cents to mail it in
How did they know it was offering Up reward that week? It does not show on purchase receipt if you have received any UP for it. Unless they are more careful and strict about rebates and sales, I do not see why they would refuse it arbitrarily
If I purchase (2) ProGlide Razors in one transaction will I get (2) $5 UP's?
Also, If I purchase 6 John Frieda products (3 limit) will i get (3) $5 UP's?
I guess what i'm asking is, do I have purchase each product separately to gain the UP's?
You can buy them together in one transaction. Multiple UPs will print together. Two weeks ago I bought two Tom's of Maine toothpaste and two $1 UPS printed.
You get UPs separately from each other in the same transaction. This is a great advatage over CVS where CVS adds the limit up together in one extrabuck if items bought in one transaction. Larger ups/ecbs make it harder to use them if your total is gonna be a smaller amount than the reward
How do the Single Check Rebates work? If I buy the Oral-B toothbrush that's $4.99 originally, and use a $2 off coupon to pay $2.99…is the rebate check I get for $2.99 spent or for the $4.50 it advertises in the list?
Mine have always been for the full price of the product (the 4.50 advertised in this case). It is an easy way to make money and to turn your UPs into cash.
i tried doing one and they told me they couldn't find any records of my purchase, even though i am 100% sure i entered the correct info. online.
if you are 100% sure then call customer service, they can look into it
Don't forget to use those 3 off 15 dollar coupons when make purchases.
I'm not getting those codes any more. :-(
The summer's eve is B1G1 free, and there is a $2 off 2 coupon, but she said to use (2) 75 cent coupons instead. is that because you cant use a $2 off coupon on B1G1 free?
okay now I see she only used (1) 75 cent off coupon so I guess that means rite aid will only let you use 1 coupon on B1G1
Rite Aid will let you use 2 coupons for B1G1 as long as the B1G1 is the sale then you can use a coupon on each item you purchased.
That is incorrect. On a B1G1 Free Sale you are only allowed to use one cents off coupon.
okay, so, i dont understand how she got 72 cents on the rite aid maxi pads, if you buy 1, at 2.30, and get $2.00 up, wouldn't that make it 30 cents?
guess theres a lot of sarah's on here! and good question, I had to look at the ad and I'm doing this deal..its $2 up when you buy 2, not just 1. and they are b1g1 50% off..so 2.30 + 1.15=3.45 and get 2 UP back..so it makes it 72 cents for each of the two
i just finished cutting the p and g coupons from the atlanta sunday newspaper.. early edition. quite frankly.. there is not a lot to be had .. most of the coupons are duplicates of the ones we already have..maybe one or two have a different value but not often or by much.. i MAY go in the morning to get the final edition so that i have a set of 2 on the new coupons.. and sometimes the final edition will have a little something different in the parade magazine.. doesnt looks like a lot of gotta have it deals in any of the drug stores or grocery stores this week.. gonna be a slow week for couponing.. what ever shall i do.. the laundry,.. cook .. clean out closets..
There is a $1off 2 colgate toothbrush coupon that were sold at the Riteaid registers that expires on 7/31/2011, I think it was the coupons to help CMN there were 8 coupons on the page.
I thought they were free to pick. There were few at Pharamcy counter at one store and another store/pharmacy was clueless about it
where can i find a "get more from your pharmacy" booklet?
if anyone has the $3 off $15 survey code that you don't need, please email me at firstname.lastname@example.com . Thank you.
I don;t have a code but I just wanted to say my name is Hazel Lynn. Good name lol
You aren't allowed to use other people's $3 off code. Rite-Aid uses people's feedback to improve their store experience for customers. You would be giving a false feedback to the store when you didn't even go to the store for the $3 code… I wish people couponed in a legitimate way… because the more and more loophole people find the more irritated the stores and companies get.
If you really need a dollar off coupon, you can print $5 off of $25 purchase on rite-aid website. It was a pretty nice surprise for me, when I logged onto my account it showed me a link for the coupon! I used it today at Rite Aid, bought $107 pantenes, old spice, tampons, toothpastes for oop of $11 with $20 UP+ & $4.50 SCR back. All without asking other people for $3 off coupon.
No offense to you, but just letting you know that asking other people for $3 off $15 purchase is fraudulent…
Many people here are new to the coupon world and it is very insulting and discouraging to make comments like that. This is supposed to be a friendly site where everyone can help each other and share our savings. Instead, with this post you have shamed her for even asking the question and then bragged and how good your savings were. Next time a simple explanation that that is not allowed and why would have sufficed.
I'm not sure what part of my comment you were so offended… I wasn't trying to offend anyone, I was trying to explain why it is not allowed… Especially when somebody else has already explained to someone else way below about this.
What comment I made that made you so offended? I wasn't even bragging about my savings, I was telling her that if she really needed the coupon she can get the $5 off of $25 on the rite-aid website, and that the $5 off coupon was very helpful to me in achieving my savings today. There are way more people here that always comments saying what items they have received, which coupons they used, and how much they paid. Am I not allowed to say this??
Well sorry for letting her know that it is fraudulent and telling here where to go look for that extra coupon.
I signed onto the website and couldn't find the $5 off coupon, is there a certain section of the website? I wonder if it's a regional thing, I live in the northeast. I'd love to get that coupon!
I think it's the one that you get when you first get going with the Wellness Program.
My RA had Garnier hair products on sale for 2.99 (no UPS or anything). Also, the Crest #D Whitestrips "Vivid" are 31.79 at CVS but are 29.99 at RA. The Venus Embrace and Venus Pro Skin razors are 9.97 – $5 UP…Venus 3pk disposables are 6.99 – $2 UP. The L'oreal Everpure/Eversleek/Everstrong hair care is also $10 UPS wyb $30… in my store, they were 5.99 ea.. I bought 5 of them, used (3) $1 coupons, and (2) $2 coupons, my total came to $29.95 so I'm a bit irritated w/ their "5.99" price instead of flat $6 price which would have given me the $30 to get the $10 UPS, now I gotta go buy something else just because of that missing 5 cents to get my $10 UPS! LoL
The john Freida was 6.99 at my store so with the 5 off coupon I paid 1.49 for 6 of them and got back (3) 5Up's= 15! wooooo talk about a money maker!!! :)
A so so trip today. I tried to get the monthly rebate booklet yesterday but they did not have it yet or so they said. So I buy The State this AM and guess what-no Rite-aid sales paper. So I arrived at Rite-aid with a few coupons I matched up on line. I did not really have a list because I did not have the sales paper until I got to the store. Then NO SIGNS AT 11:00. I wasted so much time in there trying to make up scenerios. I finally just gave up and purchased the 3 items I did find with the help of one of their employees. I told the cashier I would return when they had the signs up.
why not look at the scenarios on here, or you can look at your local ad online. but I agree it can be frustrating with no signs
RA has not had an ad in the Sunday paper for several months. Jenny does a really good job of letting us know all of the good deals. It's easy to create a shopping list by reading her posts.
The RA I shop at very rarely has their new ad tags up by Sunday morning. It takes them a couple of days to get all the tags on the shelves. Ask your manager or Assistant manager I'm sure they'd be happy to help you find the items you're looking for.
I go to the Rite Aid in Watkinsville,GA and they put thier signs up Saturday night (the day before the sale) and usually have most of them up by the morning. Its nice because I can just go in in the morning and easily find what I need and they are always very helpful! Just an FYI.
I cannot find the John Freida coupon in SS 6/05. Is it in there?
I remember during this week, this was def a regional, not everyone got this one. I did (used it at CVS) it was a small coupon directly across from the 2 q.
People, Just an FYI don't be disappointed when you go into Rite Aid and you try to use the $5 John Freida Coupon on the shampoo or conditioner and your cashier turns you down. The coupon is for John Frieda Full Repair treatment, styler or finisher. These items are 9.99. It is still a good deal if you buy these items because they are BOGO 50% off so $15 for 2 minus 2 $5 coupons and then you get a $5 +up reward making them both Free in the end. The shampoo or conditioner is 6.99. Purchasing two of these items would be $10.50 minus 2 $2 coupons bringing your total to $6.50 and then you get a $5 +up reward making it $1.50 for both in the end.
The Full Repair Root Lifter is 6.99 also which would make them .49 for two and its is one of the products that can be used with the 5off coupon
Awesome….Sorry about that….they only 9.99 items in my store. They must have a smaller set. Thanks for the info!!!
I've used the $5 Q on the shampoos and conditioner before, But not at riteaid, I just thought it included it, I've never had one beep when it rang up. Has anyone had a problem yet with this?
It was wrong. Coupons go through without beep as long as it is for the same brand. That does not mean such coupons can be used for any variety not specified on coupon.
I contacted JF about this. The coupons are not to include shampoo and conditioner. However, they will scan. And the verbage really isn't clear. I think a lot of the coupons have been used on shampoo and conditioner by unknowing consumers. Shame on JF.
we didn't get the $5 jf cpn in our area, so i used the $2 cpns. here's my transaction:
1 john frieda $6.491 john frieda $3.242 oral b adv toohbrushes $2.57 each1 angel soft bath tissue 4roll on clearance $1.19subtotal = $16.06– $3/$15 survey cpn– 2 x $2/1 john frieda– 2 x $2/1 oral b adv toothbrush– $5 ups (from gillette pro razor purchase earlier this week)subtotal = $.06+ $.91 taxtotal oop = $.97 (rec'd $5 +up and another code for survey cpn)
*already received +ups for the toothbrushes earlier this week.
I got the full repair root lifting mousse for $6.99 and then got the second mousse for $3.49 used my two $5 coupons and paid $.48 (before tax) and got my $5 up reward. Now the Loreal cosmetic one not so easy. Evidently you have to get to the $15 after coupons…thought this was odd!
will rite aid still honor a SCR if there were no products and you had to get a raincheck?
When you purchase the item with your raincheck the cashier will need to hit the 'raincheck' key on the register. Wait a couple of days, and If it does not show up in your SCR account then do a quick IM conversation with RA Customer Service.
Yes. All you have to do is call the phone number on the rebate book and they will process it for you over the phone. It won't be the first time they've done it or the last. Just give them a call after you purchase the item and they will ask for the receipt information and process the check for you.
Can someone clarify the Loreal Cosmetic up rewards deal? I was told that I had to reach $15 AFTER coupons? Really?
All deals are the total BEFORE you use your coupons.
just an AWESOME trip at rite aid!pantene conditioner 3.50pantene shampoo 3.50 (- $3/2 2, + $2 UPS)colgate 360 surround toothbrush (- $.40, + $2 UPS)colgate 360 surround toothbrush (- $.40, + $2 UPS)oral b pulsar toothbrush (- $3 coup, + $4.50 SCR)had a $3 off 15 survey coupon, the video $1 coupon, & $4 UPS
Paid $4.77, getting $4.50 back in the SCR. paying $0.27 for all this? yes ma'am and/or sir! (and i know that i can get shampoo & conditioner cheaper, but i prefer pantene, and $1 each is a good deal for that brand)
whoops. meant -$2 off the pulsar!
I was in Rite Aid this morning while someone from the paper was picking up the Sunday papers that were left over. He and the store manager were talking about where the papers should be placed when I heard the manager say something about their having some "crazy couponers." I laughed and told her I took exception to that. (I mean, I was standing right there with my coupon book spread across the back of my cart!) The manager explained that they were discussing a customer who would come in on Sundays, and while stooping to get a paper out of the rack, would open other papers and take out all the coupons, which meant others coming in to get a paper would not have the coupons. This tops tearing off too many coupons on a store display, and even pulling the coupons off items on the shelves! I'm glad the manager knows all couponers aren't like that. Their solution, she explained, is that from now on, the papers will be behind the counter.
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A possible fun deal if you have the right coupons and if you still have not reached your limit
Buy1 Oral B Pulsar $4.99 (scr limit 1)2 Oral B Advantage $2.57 each (Up limit 2)2 Colgate Surround $2.99 each (Up limit 4)
Total Due:- $16.11
Use-3 off $15 purchase-3 off Orl B battery TB (PG)(Pulsar has a battery)-2×2.50 Oral B CA, Advantage TB-found at dentist/tearpad or use $2 ones from PG-1 off 2 Colgate TB-store Q found at Pharmcay counters etc. (may be hard to find)-2×0.40 off Colgate TB (some areas have 35 cents off)
coupon values subtracted:- $12.80Pay :- $3.31
Get back:- $8 in UP (2+2+2+2) and submit for $4.50 rebate =>> $12.50 <<=
Whopping ~~~~$9.19~~~ overage ($7.19 overage if you did not have OB $2.50 and $1 Colgate Store Qs)
The Pulsar isn't considered a battery powered toothbrush, to the best of my knowledge. I know it has a battery, but it isn't actually in the same category. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think the best coupon that is meant for that the Oral B Pulsar is the $2 MQ.
Pulsar is a battery TB-it also says on it
My $2 MQ says Pulsar Manual Toothbrush. The Pulsar is a battery toothbrush.
Breaking News !!!!!!!
Rite Aid has filed for bankruptcy two months ago for fact. Gossip is that some RA stores are being taken over by Wags and others by CVS. Gradually, RA will probably be a history leaving just two large drug chains CVS and Wags
where did you read this? i just did a google search, and the most recent news I could find on this was from December 2010.
CVS and RA employees
Make sure your facts are right now! Where did you get your information?
That is False!!! Rite Aid isn't going anywhere…those are just rumors.
If I get a pack of Pampers and get a $2 +up can I turn around and use it on another pack of pampers? The limit is 2. Thanks.
Yes. :-)
I used the 1.00 off Tampax and it has the two dollar rewards. Ended up being 2.79. Then I bought 3 Gatorade's ( on sale for .88 cents) I had a one dollar off Gatorade when you buy three. Used the 2$ up and got back .6 cents!
What is the Smart Savings Booklet? Where can I get one? My husband's doctor wants him to eat more almonds. :)
Yes, i would like to know where to get one also, Birmingham, Al area
You can get one at Publix. It has store and manu. coupons.
I was in Rite Aid this morning and the manager almost didn't take my (2) BOGO coupons for Gillette Body Wash. He said that RIte Aid and CVS were no longer allowing this because of coupon fraud. He said the announcement was on the news this weekend. Has anyone else heard about this? CVS didnt' seem to have any problem taking both of my coupons.
their policy changed a few weeks ago, you can click the coupon policy at the top of this page
That is false. Rite Aid will accept the BOGO Free coupons as long as you are not using them on a BOGO Free sale. You can also use a cents off coupon for the first item in that situation making it an even better deal. For Example, the BOGO coupon that you have is probably when you buy the deodorant you get the body wash free. So you would use the coupon to make the body wash free and then you could use the $2 off coupon on the deodorant making it $2 out of pocket and then get back $2 +up reward making them both free after coupons and rewards. Unless you only have the $1 coupon so it would be a $1 after all coupons and rewards.
5UPS WYB 2 Jergens is a money maker if your store carries the tril sizes. In the ad is says 2-7.2oz. Th 2 oz at my store was $2.49 per so = free when you buy 2 or print off $1 off coupon and you make $2.
where is the coupon from
I see it above now. thanks
buy 4 tide stain release $6, 1 downy $6 = $30.– 4 x $3/1 tide stain release– 1 x $1/1 downy– $3/$15 survey q– $5 ups (from gillette pro razor, john frieda, etc)
= $9 + tax for everything. (get $10 +ups)
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The Relative Effectiveness of Three Video Oral English Instructional Conditions for Illiterate or Undereducated Non-English Speaking Adults, Spanish Speaking Adults. A Report of Statistical Findings and Recommendations Based on a Field Testing Study.
Valencia, Atilano A.
The instructional effectiveness of videotaped instruction in basic oral English to non-English speaking, adult speakers of Spanish is the focus of this report. A field testing program involving subjects who had been exposed to the films developed by the Southwestern Cooperative Educational Laboratory ascertains the effectiveness of the lessons in each of the films in terms of predetermined behavioral objectives. Three testing conditions were envisaged and are examined in this study: a classroom condition with video exposure only; a classroom condition with video exposure and followup drills by an instructor; and a home condition with video exposure only. This four-part report covers: (1) principal features of the field testing program, (2) criterion variables and statistical design, (3) statistical analysis and findings, and (4) summary, conclusions, and recommendations. Appendixes contain a sample field testing instrument and various statistical tables. (RL)
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