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THEY contribute the largest share of tourists to the Asia Pacific and also more money to the global tourism industry than any other nation. But a cultural gap is evident.
From wrecking coral to throwing rubbish into the sea, to vandalising heritage and defecating in public, travelers from China have a lot to learn about etiquette in the countries they visit.
Chinese tourists have made headlines internationally for incidents of misbehaviour, even prompting authorities in China to keep records of citizens doing anything illegal or inappropriate while in other countries.
SEE ALSO: German cops nab Chinese tourists for making Nazi salute outside Parliament
Switzerland, for example, considers them loud and rude, going as far as introducing separate trains for Chinese tourists. The notice, published in a local newspaper, also includes an illustration instructing tourists to sit on toilet seats rather than to squat on them.
But worse things have happened, of course.
In 2013, a 15-year-old defaced an Egyptian artifact at a 3,5000-year-old temple in Egypt, writing, "Ding Jinhao was here". A year later, a Thai AirAsia flight bound for Nanjing, China was forced to return to Bangkok after an unruly Chinese passenger threw scalding hot water on a flight attendant.
This is despite China's National Tourism agency releasing a 64-page illustrated guide for how citizens should behave when they travel abroad back in 2013.
In 2016, Chinese tourists, armed with selfie sticks, appeared on Japanese TV clambering over Japan's national symbol, the sakura (cherry blossom) tree, in an attempt to "get the best shot". Animals aren't spared either.
One kangaroo was killed and another injured at Fuzhou Zoo in Fujian Province when zoo-goers attempted to "make it jump". The visitors had thrown rocks at the animals that were in an enclosure separated by fences.
SEE ALSO: China: Kangaroo dies after zoo visitors throw bricks to make it jump
The death of the kangaroo, a 12-year-old female, was due to excessive blood loss in the kidney.
In 2016, two peacocks at Yunnan Wild Animal Park in Kunming died from shock after experiencing violent behavior from Chinese tourists. Visitors had forcefully picked them up to pose for photographs and plucked out their feathers.
History repeated itself recently when tourists plucked the tail feathers from four live peacocks at Liwan Zoo in Yangzhou.
According to the Beijing Youth Daily, traces of blood were still at the scene after the assault on the bird. Pictures on social media showed all the peacocks' long tail feathers had been pulled out. The zoo is now going to put an extra two staff to watch over the enclosure.
What can be done about Chinese tourists behaving badly?
Thailand's Tourism Authority of Thailand (TAT) has sought help from its Chinese counterpart to warn Chinese tourists to behave while visiting Thailand.
The Hokkaido government in Japan has issued a booklet on bad manners aimed at Chinese visitors.
At home, China's state news agency Xinhua did the same, releasing a long list of guidelines complete with illustrations issued by the National Tourism Administration. Here are some of the don'ts:
- Don't take the life vests and blankets off the plane.
- Don't spit phlegm or gum, throw litter, urinate or defecate wherever you feel like it.
- Don't take the ashtray or bath towels from guest rooms.
- Don't use towels or bed sheets to wipe your shoes.
- Don't cough, sneeze or pick your nose or teeth in front of others.
It also included country-specific advice: Chinese visitors to Germany should only snap their fingers to beckon dogs, not humans.
SEE ALSO: Thailand: Chinese tourist claims jewellery 'missing' after hugging ladyboys
However, the guidelines weren't very well received. Bangkok Post quoted 33-year-old tourist Zhang, who was visiting Hong Kong from Anhui, as saying that the guidelines were "too many" and "too specific".
"You cannot possibly look through all of the rules before you go traveling. Also, the rules are different in different places," he complained.
"I think it's not very feasible."
This article was originally published on Travel Wire Asia.


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In finalizing the One UN RBM strategy in 2012 the UN in Viet Nam has laid a strong foundation for more effective management of DaO results.
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The Results-Based Management Strategy provides the Resident Coordinator, the UN Country Team, UN staff, and national and international partners with the overall approach to manage for One Plan and Delivering as One results. This includes institutional arrangements, frameworks and tools for improved effectiveness and efficiency.
The strategy is guided by a framework of expected changes from DaO implementation. The framework describes the main elements of DaO in Viet Nam, and how they reinforce one another to make an effective contribution to the strengthening of national ownership and capacity and the achievement of national priorities.
A renewed focus on managing for results is already contributing to stronger results reporting, evidence-based decision-making with partners, and growing mutual accountability.
The RBM Strategy for DaO in Viet Nam is enabling:
- Stronger, more consistent joint planning, monitoring and reporting about actual One Plan and other DaO Pillar performance against planned results and indicators.
- Increased attention to demonstrating results for complex outcomes related to policy advice and advocacy and vulnerable and disadvantaged groups.
- Improved efforts to tell credible 'contribution stories' in plain language about how UN-supported results are making a difference in people's lives.
- Strengthened evaluation of the relevance, effectiveness, efficiency and sustainability of One Plan results and the Delivering as One approach.
- Increased generation of knowledge products such as lessons and good practices from programme performance, and sharing with UN and One Plan Stakeholders.
- Use of evidence about the performance of the One Plan and other DaO Pillars to engage more regularly and effectively with government partners and donors, and to make adjustments to strategy, results and resources.
- Strengthened capacity of UN staff and partners to manage for One Plan results:
- Use of the One Plan Database as a dynamic tool to monitor and report on performance
One Plan Database
The One Plan Database is a tailor-made, web-based tool built to monitor and report on all One Plan results with inputs of Joint Programming Groups. The Database is tracking progress over the full period of the One Plan, informing improved decision-making.The database is used to consolidate, track and share information about changes in quantitative and qualitative indicators. It includes information about targets, means of verification and provides comments from UN staff on issues such as the source and quality of data.
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In a country like India, women have always been kept away from sports. As we know that development through sport has a huge potential, extending the football program to women would drastically improve our chances to tackle gender inequality issues effectively. Women football development is in practice in three of our centres.
We conduct daily football training sessions for women. The participation in the Homeless World Cup has hugely improved the effectiveness of this program. The players who have participated before in the tournament are seen as football players by other women. This has become such a huge inspiration that today five full time coaches are training hundreds of women players in those three centres. Also the activity has also been recognised by the Street football network who has invited the women team for another international event in Berlin for the year 2011. Also a major chunk of the awareness part of the curriculum has been given to women's development.
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New Linksys WRT3200CM MU-Gigabit Wi-Fi Router Prepares You For A Future :- An American data networking hardware products company, Linksys new router makes you for a future that will never come, Yes!! The "Linksys WRT3200ACM MU-MIMO Gigabit Wi-Fi Router" is the newest router in Belkin's WRT series and not the surprise, it looks specifically like the previous models. On the interior, still, it's entirely different sounds.
Also, There are not currently any laptops or smartphones that boost Wi-Fi speeds faster than 877Mbs, as that's previously really fast.
However, like all strong routers, the WRT3200ACM is only as fast as the clients connected to it. That suggests, when working as expected, the WRT3200ACM will not increase your network speed over earlier WRT models, or even most "AC1900 routers".
In words of speed, I was snowed. When connected to dual-band 80Mhz clients the router delivered a supported speed topping out at about 550Mbps, about ordinary linked with other high-end routers.
The range was further about the score, maxing out at about 150 meters after going through a few bars. Wi-Fi range depends massively on the circumstances, the more resistance, for the case, the smaller range makes, so your rate may differ.
The new Linksys router instantly has a highest 1.8Ghz dual-core processor, and 256MB of report and 512MB of the usage memory, that's connected to the 1.6Ghz, 128MB flash and 512MB RAM of its predecessor.
It further carries the modern Tri-band 160 technology, which indicates that on paper, it's doubly as fast up t0 2,600Mbps being common routers at the familiar range.
Here's the difficulty, if, you will not recognize this plane of performance in practical experience. This is as there are no Tri-band 160 customers mean laptops and phones etc.
Clearly, it seems tried to have the highest router, however with the WRT3200ACM, you clearly should expect till after one or two cycles of firmware renew before making it. Also, at $280, it's a little too pricey for a carriage router. You can further option for the earlier models, which name is the WRT1900AC or WRT1900ACS.


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The scene was London, England, late September 2007.
Dean Lombardi had been on the job as GM of the Los Angeles Kings for just under a year and a half. As we watched his team practice at the 02 Arena before a regular-season game with the Anaheim Ducks, Lombardi pointed to the teenage goalie on the ice.
The kid was Lombardi's first draft pick as Kings GM, 11th overall in the 2006 draft. His name was Jonathan Bernier.
It was an important decision, Lombardi would explain that day, because he felt the Kings had not drafted and developed their own bona fide No. 1 goalie in a very, very long time, if ever.
For some reason, I always remember that conversation with Lombardi. I just remember how glowingly he spoke of Bernier's potential. So you can bet that the man who traded Bernier to the Toronto Maple Leafs is the last person on Earth to be surprised by the goaltender's hot start.
"It doesn't surprise me at all," Lombardi told ESPN.com Friday. "We knew this guy. After the trade, he sent me a text to thank me for trading him. I replied back, 'I just wish I could have been Glen Sather and had Moog and Fuhr but that is impossible today.'"
In Lombardi's dream scenario, Jonathan Quick and Bernier would play their careers together in L.A. and give the Kings the best one-two punch in the NHL for a decade, as the 1980s Oilers had with Grant Fuhr and Andy Moog. But reality dictated otherwise. In the salary cap era with Bernier's contract coming up this past summer, Lombardi knew he couldn't keep both. He also knew Bernier had grown tired of his secondary role in L.A. and there was no way the Kings could ever placate the young goalie's needs behind Quick, a Conn Smythe Trophy and Stanley Cup winner signed to a long-term deal.
So Lombardi promised Bernier a deal and he delivered, but the trade remains difficult for the Kings GM to stomach.
"I don't think any general manager wants to be in that position where you have to trade a player and he's a really good player," Lombardi said.
"What makes this tough is that it's procedural, you have to move him, it's not even a hockey deal, you're looking for an asset deal."
What made it worse for Lombardi is that he doesn't feel other NHL teams fully realized Bernier's potential and value.
"You've got something that's valuable that you have to move, but the market doesn't recognize it," Lombardi said.
"[Toronto GM] Dave Nonis was really the only one who was seriously interested in him. Everyone else was just tire-kicking. I was shocked at the lack of real interest. He had proven himself again last season. The other reason I think people overlook Bernier is because he is small; they overlook his hockey sense, which is his best asset.
"I give Nonis a lot of credit. A week after he got the [GM] job [in Toronto], he was all over Bernier."
At the time, however, Lombardi didn't want to pull the trigger with Toronto early in the lockout-shortened season.
"We almost had a deal at the beginning of last season, but I was really nervous about Quick coming back from his back surgery," Lombardi said. "And thank God we didn't make the deal then because sure enough, we don't make the playoffs without Bernier. But I had to move him after the season."
Bernier was traded to Toronto on June 23 in exchange for forward Matt Frattin, backup goalie Ben Scrivens, a second-round pick in either the 2014 or 2015 draft, plus about $500,000 in retained salary by Toronto to help the Kings' cap situation.
Given his lack of options, I think Lombardi did a decent job here. Frattin, in particular, can be a player.
But now Bernier's start in Toronto shows the world why this was a tough pill to swallow for Lombardi.
"Like is said, I give Nonis a lot of credit, he saw the value in Bernier," the Kings GM said.
Musical chairs in goal for Flames
Journeyman goalie Joey MacDonald has got the bulk of the starts so far this season for the Calgary Flames, somewhat surprising I'd say.
But between MacDonald, Karri Ramo and Reto Berra (currently in the AHL), the plan is that all three will get into the mix this season.
"Will it be musical chairs between three guys? Right now we're just riding the wave," Flames coach Bob Hartley told ESPN.com this week. "Whoever we feel gives us a chance to win right now, we're going to play. We are clear with those three guys that, unless someone really takes the steering wheel with his two hands, we're not going to declare a No. 1. We're just going to ride the wave."
The decision to send the Swiss-born Berra down to AHL Abbotsford to start the season was based mostly on the fact he hasn't been over here very long.
"He had played very few games in North America. He had zero NHL experience compared to Ramo," Hartley said. "So that's basically where we gauged our decision. But I watched Abbotsford two games last weekend, we are monitoring very closely what Berra is doing over there."


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Switching your energy providers has now been made much easier than it used to be thanks to the internet. There are a few websites around that compare energy prices and then switch them there for you or you can go direct to the energy company. The switching sites show you how much you will be saving a year and sometimes it's hundreds! I use different comparison websites (they sometimes show different rates) to see which of those give the best deal. Once I've found the cheapest suppliers, I go direct to them to see if they have any special deals by cutting out the middle man. Usually I use the comparison websites to find the cheapest supplier THEN go onto a cashback website like Quidco or Topcashback and click through them to the supplier. By using a cashback site and going direct to the supplier, you know you've already found the cheapest energy company and you earn cashback on top of that!
Being loyal to your energy supplier does you less favours than if you switch every year. I think loyalty should be rewarded but unfortunately it isn't, so use it to your advantage by switching to a cheaper company every year and earning cashback on top of that!
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Markets and Multiunit Firms from an American Historical Perspective
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NBER Working Paper No. 8232
The expansion of markets and industrialization greatly increased the benefits of specialization in the U.S. economy. However, since the benefits of specialization can only be realized through trade, specialization significantly increases the volume of market transactions in the economy. The analysis presented in this paper suggests that a better understanding of the historical changes in the nature of market transactions costs, especially those related to information, is likely to provide considerable insights on the rise of the modern business enterprise and a richer understanding of the industrial organization of the U.S. economy.
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Published: Advances in Strategic Management v. 18. Emerald Group Publishing Limited, 2001.
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In just six months Shayne Ward went from being a shop assistant in Manchester to one of the biggest selling recording artists in the UK and Ireland.
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Three groups lead the guidance and management of the Safety Center: the team, the technical panel, and the stakeholder group.
Our Team
Team members provide the day-to-day operations, administration and management of the Safety Center.
Our team members include:
Technical Panel
The technical panel's role is to lend their expertise to the creation and enhancement of the Safety Center. The technical panel is comprised of all areas of FHWA with a rural safety role.
The technical panel is comprised of representatives from:
- FHWA Resource Center
- FHWA Office of Safety – Local and Rural Roads Safety Program
- FHWA Office of Safety – Research and Development
- FHWA Office of Safety – Communications Personnel
- FHWA Technology Partnership Program
- National Highway Institute
- FHWA Western Federal Lands
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Stakeholder Group
Members of the stakeholder group provide the Safety Center with real world, practitioner experience and insight at the state and local level. The stakeholders were selected with geographic diversity in mind, as well as a range of knowledge that complements the expertise already provided on our team and technical panel. The stakeholder group represents the 4E's, local, state, LTAP and TTAP.
The stakeholder group representatives include:
- State Engineer – Timothy Barnett, Retired from Alabama Department of Transportation
- State Engineer – John Miller, Missouri Department of Transportation
- County Engineer* – Joe Marek, Clackamas County (Oregon) Department of Transportation and Development
- Public Works/Local Representative – Christopher Strong, Gresham (Oregon) Transportation Division
- Planner – Amy Kessler, Pennsylvania Rural Planning Organization
- Planner – Jennifer Marandino, South Jersey Transportation Planning Organization
- Enforcement – Tim Lentz, Chief of Police in Covington, Louisiana
- Enforcement – Tony D'Agostino, Law Enforcement Liaison NYS Governor's Traffic Safety Committee
- EMS – Teri Sanddal, Trauma and Emergency Response Infrastructure
- Public Health – David Sleet, Retired from CDC
- Behavioral Safety – Gina Espinosa-Salcedo, NHTSA
- LTAP – Marie Walsh, Louisiana LTAP
To read more about individual stakeholders, please view our Safety Career Pathway Spotlights.
Roles and responsibilities of the stakeholder group include:
- Advising the Safety Center on on-going efforts of interest,
- Participating in work sessions,
- Discussing rural, local, and tribal cutting-edge and emerging issues, and
- Identifying gaps.
*David Brand (Madison County, OH), Byron Bluehorse (previously Alaska TTAP), and Karla Sisco (previously Oklahoma TTAP) were founding members of the Safety Center's Stakeholder Group


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COP21 Update – Tuesday, December 8
Today was Gender Day at COP 21. The Women Gender Constituency celebrated by giving awards to several women who have done projects involving climate change adaptations, to increase the resilience of women impacted by climate change. A speaker from Nigeria described projects involving fuelwood efficient stoves, solar dryers and rice-husk briquette-making which improved their finances and their health. A woman from Georgia talked about low carbon projects like solar water heaters in rural areas. Most of the energy budget of a household budget there is spent on heating water, so this project saves labor and money. In a society where rural women cannot get credit or might not have construction and maintenance skills the training in this project made them more independent. Yet another speaker talked about a clean cook stove project in Nigeria, which is directed at the needs of women. She reported that 2000 of their kidnapped girls have been rescued from insurgents – now about 500 of the girls are pregnant. An organization called POSH (sponsored by the UN Development Program) is going to train these girls in use of the stoves so they can be trainers and help advance the project.
Al Gore gave a formal presentation to a large audience. He showed the most up to date facts and figures—even video and pictures from events happening while we are at the conference. The evidence for the connection between more intense storms and climate change seems undeniable. He was passionate and very convincing…"Put a price on carbon in the market and on denial in politics!"
We ended the day with a press conference held by the Holy See, which as a state holds special observer status in the UN, giving it the right to speak in the assembly but not to vote. Cardinal Turkson handled a question on the contentious question of " Common But Differentiated Responsibility" by commenting that the Holy Father would not want for one side to point a finger in blame or declare themselves innocent and therefore worthy of a certain treatment, but that the "other side" would consider it in a spirit of solidarity–and therefore want to transfer technology or help in other ways. A former bishop of Brazil talked about the plight of the Amazon river, rainforest and its indigenous peoples, and what the church is doing to form networks to take common actions in preserving the ecosystems, the flora and fauna, and the people / cultures. Finally a professor from the Vatican Academy of Science described how the pope had brought the social and the natural sciences together, and how they had come to see the moral / ethical issues involved with climate change, to which he later referred in Laudato Si'. They seemed to be fairly optimistic about the way things are going in the negotiations, and they had hopes for a binding document.


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- Elon University (B.A., 2002 cum laude)
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Continuing Legal Education Presentations / Publications
- North Carolina Family Law Marital Claims, Third Edition (Managing Editor 2012)
- 2013, North Carolina Bar Association Family Law Section Annual Meeting – "Can I Get A Witness: Evidentiary Issues in Family Law"; Asheville, North Carolina
- 2014, North Carolina Bar Association Family Law Section Annual Meeting – "Child's Play: An Overview of Custody Issues"; Charleston, South Carolina
- 2014 North Carolina Bar Association Annual Review – "Family Law Updates"; Greensboro, North Carolina
- 2014 Basic Training: Boot Camp for Family Law Attorneys – "The Fundamentals of Equitable Distribution: Managing an Effective ED Case from Start to Finish"; Cary, North Carolina
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- McKinney v. McKinney, 217 N.C. App. 400, 720 S.E.2d 29 (2011) (unpublished)
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Last Sunday, 1/2 of Team Salty Dawgs (plus a bonus rider) headed out on our first big training ride in preparation for my first century: 58 miles! We started in Mountain View (though one rider started in Sunnyvale...), headed up the bay shore trail to the Sun's Menlo Park campus, and made a right turn onto the Dumbarton Bridge. After we got over the bridge, we continued on beautiful bicycle trails through Alameda County until we found ourselves at Niles, where we had a delightful lunch at a little cafe (complete with cafe lattes!) and watched the steam trains go by.
After lunch, we reversed our route, pushing hard against the head winds that had come in since the morning. My dear friend Eileen had only ridden 11 miles previously this year, so I was very proud of how she stuck with the group and had no complaints (other than dreaming about a warm bath and cookies back at her own home).
We jokingly called it the Tour de Toilettes, as it seemed one of us always needed to stop every time we came across one. Fortunately, all of them, except one dreadful port-a-potty, were well maintained and clean. :-)
We did this in 4 hours and 19 minutes of ride time - it was mostly flat, though, so this weekend we'll have to start on the hills!
My only complaint, though, which is one I seem to have after every long ride (greater than 3 hours) is a headache and a stomach ache. My stomach seems to get incredibly filled with air during a ride - like I'm swallowing air or something? It's sort of like drinking a couple of Diet Cokes or beers really fast. That full feeling that, I'm sorry to say, does come with burps and nausea.
I'm certainly not drinking soda during a ride like this. I was also not eating, except for my lunch stop. I drank water pretty continuously from my Camel Bak.
So, any ideas? Anyone else have this problem of stomach ache on a long ride?
One of my team mates, Bryn, thinks the headache might be from lack of electrolytes and has suggested Cytomax. What do you think?
I've also been focusing on my speed - I want to finish these 100 miles in less than 24 hours :) My normal average speed on a ride like that is 12.5 mph, I've got to do better. That was my normal speed into work, but with all the riding I've been doing lately, I've gotten that up to around 15 mph (no hills).
btw, I'm still looking for folks to join our team! The ride is in Sonoma area, 65 or 100 miles, on June 26. You can find information on our team page. If you can't ride, please support us with a financial donation! Thank you!
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To assist the Co-ordinator in administering and facilitating on a full-time basis, a Local Training Initiative (LTI) Programme. This full-time programme, delivered at Belvedere House and Gardens, Mullingar, Co Westmeath, is based on a contract which is subject to continuity of funding by Longford Westmeath Education and Training Board (LWETB). It aims to provide learners with the knowledge and skills required to work in the Horticulture industry.
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- Buy in Season – When it comes to produce do your homework and know when things are in season. If produce is in season it's usually cheaper.
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mandrake has released version 8.0 of its linux distribution. the new distribution features several updates from version 7.2, including:
� choice of 11 window managers, including kde 2.1.1 and gnome 1.4
� mandrake control center for setting video, clock, network, and many other features
� linux kernel 2.4.3
� xfree86 4.0.3
� font anti-aliasing
check the download page, the feature overview, and the feature details for more information on mandrake linux 8.0.
rob's opinion
i originally noticed this item on slashdot. i checked out some of the comments and people were quite excited about the newest mandrake release, echoing sentiments i've seen here from several geek.com readers when we highlighted the release of mandrake 7.2.
mandrake 8.0 looks to be a very nice release. if you are considering linux, i'd give mandrake a try just for the font anti-aliasing alone. man, it's so about time for that. blocky fonts drive me nuts, and that's actually the main reason that i don't use linux as a desktop more regularly, if you can believe it. now i may actually get off my butt and put together these two linux boxes i have with their guts strewn all over my floor in disarray, much like my life has been of late.
it appears to me that mandrake has won the hearts of the linux faithful for desktop use, while slackware and debian pick up the server side, with red hat out there for commercial/mainstream users who want a standard platform to run things on with plentiful support options. does that sum things up in the linux world nowadays?
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|all except…. (3:30pm est fri apr 20 2001)
…the flame-bait…but, we'll leave that to amy….
ps – my time to be first post! – by grumpyoldman
|funny… (3:32pm est fri apr 20 2001)
… how linux distribution vendors advertise their products when they are not responsible for the content!
as for font aliasing as an example:
that means it's not really a mandrake feature as everyone who downloads the 4.0.3 version will get the xft extension which makes font antialiasing possible…
(nothing against mandrake, i don't know it.)
|red hat 7.1 (3:35pm est fri apr 20 2001)
isn't red hat 7.1 also out? – by wambo
|yaya (3:38pm est fri apr 20 2001)
start the d-load baby
gonna be rippin an iso tonight – by skyrat
|red hat, anti-aliasing (3:42pm est fri apr 20 2001)
just fyi, red hat also has the xfree86 version 4.0.3, and we covered that release . hopefully, we'll see anti-aliasing for fonts in all linux distributions soon. – by robgeek
|hmmm (4:20pm est fri apr 20 2001)
in my experience with mandrake never get version x.0 always wait for x.1 to come out. they never get it right on the first try – by dredly
|alright! (4:21pm est fri apr 20 2001)
i had 8.0 preview 3 and i thought it was an outstanding disto. i just hope in the final release they ease back some on the cutsey penquins they placed everywhere like in 7.2. – by ..
|i am linus (4:49pm est fri apr 20 2001)
kneel before me, my socially challenged minions! what i say is doctrine, you will have penguins tattooed on your posteriors when i tell you to. if i say the mach microkernel is crap, you say "and how," is this clear? you are out of gates' frying pan and in to my fire, now – you got that?! – by linus t�rvalds
|suse for my systems… (4:55pm est fri apr 20 2001)
love it. installs cleanly, things are where you expect them to be, and it is easily configured. i've used 6.3, 6.4, and 7.1 (i decided to skip 7.0 and wait for the 2.4.x kernel).
however, i do think they released it just a bit too early – i would have liked to see it arrive with kde 2.1.1 instead of 2.0.1 – but on the whole it's a stable, solid distribution.
suse 7.1 is especially cool if you need a web server running apache, mysql, and php4… – by k. adams
|yes!! (5:04pm est fri apr 20 2001)
goodbye m$!! i couldn't say that with version 7.2, but with improvements like nautilus and the control center (like m$ control panel) to ease the use, i'm there!! – by lt cox
|yada yada (5:14pm est fri apr 20 2001)
. . . .and if you're like me and don't have access to broadband you can buy the cd's from cheapbytes for about $4. matter of fact i'm looking now at the mandrake 7.2 and redhat 7.1 discs i got not too long ago.
i never got around to installing them why? none of the software i have works on linux, every install seems "some assembly required" to get it working, x-windows for the most part looks just like 95-98 and yes i know about the ten zillion versions out there, and trying to find current (or in some cases any) drivers for your hardware can be a pain. lastly it's very hard to get sound technical advice and posting on bulletin boards or message lists usually gets either juvenile rants or conflicting and wrong answers.
but hey linux is fast for doing– something, and can do all kinds of– things, and even though most people can't figure linux out they must all be a bunch of idiots who aren't entitled to use computers because if they did they would know that the only thing that matters is just that it's not made by microsoft.
i got a harley-davidson to sell you it's an overweight and obsolete piece of junk that nobody else would build, but since it's not japanese it's the greatest thing on two wheels. want it? – by ~~~~dos rules!
|the greatest joy a linux user experiences…. (5:43pm est fri apr 20 2001)
…is when he gets his computer to actually work…yawn is that what passes for having fun with computers nowadays?
flame me at will! – by steven
|yeah, i think it is… (6:14pm est fri apr 20 2001)
i don't know about all permutations/distros, but one of the appeals of linux to me is that it requires a bit of mental dexterity to get it working. am i the only one who finds the win98 install really boring? there's nothing to do except check a few boxes and type some stuff. i want an os that makes me think about what i'm doing and gives me some control over how i do it… – by charmaka
|why do you even post on this steven (6:27pm est fri apr 20 2001)
we all know your views. if it is not microsoft it is junk and a waste of your time.
i know that you don't like linux because if it catches on you might have to learn something new for a change – by rax
|os that makes you think… (6:41pm est fri apr 20 2001)
that's not what i want. i want one that thinks for me… ahh…. that would be the life…
i also want one that wipes my ass, but i don't see that happening for quite some time (maybe linux 5 will have built-in toilet code, or perhaps even windows xp3 (a.k.a. wiper)). – by god�
|help! (6:54pm est fri apr 20 2001)
hi, i have a pentium 2laptop w/ win98 and i desperately want to switch to some linux dist. i've tried debian and red hat, but can't get either of them working. i think it's the pcmcia cards i have. any advice. – by m$ sucks ass…
|m$ sucks ass… (7:05pm est fri apr 20 2001)
well, you can't get linux working on your laptop – you obviously must be a moron – go back to windows you slacker. – by slackers $uck
|try (7:55pm est fri apr 20 2001)
the one being discussed here. i got mandrake 7.1 running alright on toshiba sattelite pro 430 cdt, had a 120 pentium, and 32 megs of ram and only a 1.1 gig hard drive. took a little work mostly with the display to get x running correctly. however you shouldn't have any trouble with a pentium 2 system – by ..
|re: laptop installation of linux (8:16pm est fri apr 20 2001)
i read an article earlier today (sorry, i forgot where) regarding this very issue. he recommended mandrake's distribution because it is compatible with almost everything. heck, it even recognized my geforce2 card without me having to do a thing! since mandrake's 8.0 version is out, i'd grab the first copy of it i could. even with version 7.2, i've had no problems with any hardware (worthless winmodems excepted, of course). mandrake's site, lists all pcmcia peripheral compatibilities. – by lt cox
|correction (8:17pm est fri apr 20 2001)
the comma got stuck in the path name, sorry. here it is: – by lt cox
|.. (8:18pm est fri apr 20 2001)
what's wrong with 120 pentium systems? :-d they're great to try linux distros on – by sbr239
|charmaka wants excitement? (8:34pm est fri apr 20 2001)
huh? you want the -install- to be exciting? thrilling? explosively dynamic as you find yourself catapulted beyond our universe into a realm of computing experience that makes jimi hendrix look lame?
i dunno, maybe exciting is what i would look forward to doing with the computenmaschinen after i get it running, as i do battle with the forces of quake iii, play my dvd's, and network with my pda. waitaminute quake iii doesn't come on linux, dvd's can be made to run on linux but only after some fiddling, and my pda on windows ce don't use it at all.
however, i imagine partitioning your hard drive, hoping you get x-windows working right, and praying you can find drivers that will work for your hardware can be a thrill, but ooh, those kind of people must be *twisted.* – by dosforever!
|did anyone else catch this part? (8:34pm est fri apr 20 2001)
"now i may actually get off my butt and put together these two linux boxes i have with their guts strewn all over my floor in disarray, much like my life has been of late."
rob, we're here for you, man. – by me
|re: me (8:39pm est fri apr 20 2001)
rob's guts have been strewn all over the floor? damn, i thought i had it bad! – by dos!dos!dos!
|re: dosforever! (9:59pm est fri apr 20 2001)
hey bro, i'm using linux and it found my dvd drive and plays quake iii. sharp also makes a pda with a linux os. give it a try before you knock it! – by lt cox
|m$ forever!!!!! (10:00pm est fri apr 20 2001)
linux sucks!linux is for pasty 35 year old virgins who live in their parents basement spending days trying to get their drivers to work for their new hardware.who gives a damn about exciting installs?how many times do you do an install?the day you can play one decent game on linux is the day i will change my p.o.v!flame on flame on!! – by spank me!
|looks like your changing… (10:01pm est fri apr 20 2001)
you spoke to soon moron! – by be
|is it me or… (10:02pm est fri apr 20 2001)
did this place suddenly get busy? – by be
|difference? (10:04pm est fri apr 20 2001)
i have yet to actually try linux… but i'd like to know before i dive in… are there any significant differences between red hat and mandrake or is it small things (ie kernel version #'s, a different setup gui, etc.) or is there actually a big difference in what one offers over the other? thanks for any info… – by milhouse
|no real difference…. (10:12pm est fri apr 20 2001)
there really isn't a major difference in the linux distros. it's just about the same as buying this m$ machine with so and so software included or that m$ machine with so and so other software included. that, and they might have different window managers (i haven't seen what the others have, just the mandrake i have installed, which has less than the 11 8.0 has). other than that, the kernel # should be on the box, etc. the setup routine might be a little different too – again, i've only installed mandrake. – by me, too
|thanks (10:14pm est fri apr 20 2001)
i was under the impression that there wasn't anything to be concerned about… but it's just nice to have it cleared up… – by milhouse
|bits are the same, locations differ. (10:23pm est fri apr 20 2001)
the bits in the various distros are the same, they tend to make you spend lotsa time looking for them. and then they dont assemble right. get a bsd if you want a cohesive productive tool for actual (oh, forbid!) work. – by ehack
|mandrake 8.0! (11:04pm est fri apr 20 2001)
congratulations to the open source community, to everybody who helped.
in particular now to the people at mandrake.
i may not need to upgrade (i have 7.2, 2.2.17, kde 2.1.1) but i am already downloading the software.
i may just do as i did for 7.2, after downloading and testing, i went to a computer store and bought it to get more cd's and some books…
23%… two hours more …
good night :->
p.s.: for the not yet linux users, 8.0 might just be the right version to try.
– by theshadowknows
|work…. (11:09pm est fri apr 20 2001)
ehack… thanks for the advice but… i understand that work never killed anyone but i am not about to take the chance at becoming it's first victim… -) – by milhouse
|i don't know… (12:12am est sat apr 21 2001)
…if i'm going to download mandrake 8, since i downloaded redhat 7.1 a couple of days ago. i am however very impressed about redhat 7.1 because it was the first linux that recognized everything on my laptop (including my no-name pcmcia ethernet card). in fact i'm even writing this using redhat 7.1 while listening to an mp3. i could not do that before. – by lorddethstar
|damn linux… (1:34am est sat apr 21 2001)
i just went out and bought a copy of redhat7.0 this morning. ho hum, won't install using a graphical interface. no problem, i'll just put mandrake 7.2 on… guess what still can't get the blasted os to install.
the only linux dist i have managed to successfully install was redhat 6.2 which was really buggy.
i hope mandrake 8.0 is more user friendly. i really would like to use linux for fiddling with, but i need to get it on a machine first.
at least my win2k machine works fine. – by kestrel
|such excitement!!!! (2:06am est sat apr 21 2001)
oh wow! 8.0 is out!!!!
whoo hooo! i'm get such a kick off of thrilling installations!
oviously, i've lost touch with the original purpose of a computer making life easier and simplier.
oh wow! 15%!!! i can't wait!
|oh yeah! (2:10am est sat apr 21 2001)
and linux has revolutionized my spelling ability! – by sigh
|the real m$ killer (2:42am est sat apr 21 2001)
for anyone who isn't familiar with windows emulators (for linux, mac, freebsd, beos, etc…), go to and you'll see something really cool. i think if wine is developed to its full potential, m$ will be dead in the water! – by lt cox
|sigh (3:03am est sat apr 21 2001)
what can i say? i have to admit you have a point.
yet, after all your attempts at making it sound pathetic, i still see nothing wrong with fiddling with your os. sure its not for everyone but some people enjoy trying to get the maximum performance possible out of their machines.
this is no different than people building hot rods. fiddling and tweaking their cars to get a tiny bit of extra performance. to the "normal" people driving minivans, this seems like a ridiculous waste of time.
linux is not an os for the average user and imo it will never be. it's awesome for servers and enthusiasts but the joe averages out there will just not be interested enough to spend any time on it.
unless windows suddenly blows up and never comes back, most people will stay with it. – by pherthyl
|more juicy stuff… (4:29am est sat apr 21 2001)
want to play 3d windows games (half-life, c&c2, starcraft, etc…) in linux? go to and check out "winex". – by lt cox
|oooh, flame bait :) (6:02am est sat apr 21 2001)
lighten up guys :)
i'm sorry, but i happen to like tinkering with my computer. maybe it's cos i'm a geek. i dunno… have you never spent an afternoon trying to get an awkward hardware combination working, or troubleshoot some dodgy software? and you're posting on geek.com? well, ok…
let me rephrase that last post. i'd like to play with a program that teaches me something while i'm setting it up. it'd be nice to have an os which actually gives you some idea of how it works before it starts crashing. when it does crash, i'd quite like to be able to say 'i know why it did that, it's because i did so-and-so', rather than 'bsod. damn' and hit reboot.
ok, i know this isn't for everyone. i also accept that this isn't a good idea all the time – sometimes it's more important to have an os that will install quickly and smoothly – even if it crashes every ten minutes… but hey, that's life – by charmaka
|easy install (6:14am est sat apr 21 2001)
i was just at mandrake's forum, and a user posted her experience installing 8.0. she went from windows to a dual-boot machine, with internet access, in 25 minutes. 25 minutes!! and only one reboot, i must add. it was a simple matter of clicking "next" and "ok" 7 or 8 times, and she was completely installed. i can't wait! – by lt cox
|whatever happened (6:34am est sat apr 21 2001)
to that guy that always asked what daisy had for lunch today? i never did find out. . . – by noer
|re: wine (9:21am est sat apr 21 2001)
oh, that's how to run the stuff on linux they don't make the software written for linux you instead have to install another program to make the software think it's running on windows. (3.1 at that!?!)
if linux is so great, then why aren't the developers making scads of ports just for linux? saying you can run the popular software on your linux box by installing a windows interpreter kind of defeats the whole purpose–i thought windows was the evil useless bloated code that serves no purpose, yet it looks like it's needed. (flame bait! flame bait!)
and lt. cox: i ain't your bro, and if you get more positive on mandrake i think you'll need to sign up for corporate sponsorship.
btw, what did daisy have for lunch, anyway? – by dos is it!!!!!!!
|linux is about as practical as a dune buggy (10:02am est sat apr 21 2001)
it is older than nt and has nowhere near the marketshare. it hit popularity about a year and a half after nt did and still is nowhere near where nt was a year and a half ago. nt had all the problems linux had (hardware incompatibility, lack of compatible apps, awkard first versions), yet rose far above linux with less hype and marketing. linux has failed. time has proven than linux is not meant to be a market leader, just a toy for people who want to spend months getting their systems working.
hot rod?…no. running linux is not like building a hot rod. hot rods usually run better than commercial cars. a linux machine is more like a dune buggy. dune buggies are good for only one thing, off road racing, and you would never want to use them for anything else. dune buggies outperform mainstream cars in an unusual circumstance instead of an ordinary one (like the freeway). linux outperforms windows nt/2000 only on cheap computers instead of mainstream modern servers, workstations, or pc's. if given the choice, i am sure that most people would prefer to have a mercedes or corvette over a dune buggy, hence why linux has failed! – by sb
|re: sb (11:06am est sat apr 21 2001)
too true, i keep wondering on the hype on all the *ix variants from freebsd to linux and the even earlier stuff like minix and zenix. it's all rehashing of unix, which itself has roots going back to the late sixties.
what i would really like to see is a new operating system period. one that throws out the book on unix and starts anew. i had some high hopes for be, but that also seemed to have some basis in unix or next–but darn it was a friendly system to work with. now even apple has tossed their operating system and gone unix.
if linux and all it's variants really were the *big thing* then i don't see why all the software developers haven't seen the light and started offering their programs in linux ports for the "higher performance" and "greater reliability" that is so often touted for it.
the biggest thing i ever saw for linux was it was ostensibly free, or really cheap compared to the others. however, in a lot of the early distros it seemed you got what you paid for. the new stuff is better, but still a far cry from being either easy to use or having wide driver support.
my next operating system will most likely be windows 2000, as 98 has gotten long in tooth and me is a veritable bomb. i'll eventually get the licensed version of be and probably even mandrake 8.0, but more as tinkering toys for my spare time than for serious work. – by c: = dos!
|am i just missing something here? (11:44am est sat apr 21 2001)
i'm not sure why you people keep discrediting linux. there is no reason to say that "linux has failed," or that "it will never be as good as windows," etc. i've frankly gotten bored with using linux distributions and am now working on my own. linux is not hard to use, that is, if you're not coming from a windows environment with a friendly point and crash interface.
remember getting your first commodore? did anybody learn how to program basic? wasn't that fun? do you think that a commodore was any harder to use than a windows machine is now? if you're not used to using windows then using something besides windows isn't that hard.
linux is getting continually better and continually gaining more marketshare. those who say that linux has already failed are fools. with each iteration of linux distributions comes easier and easier to install interfaces. i remembered trying redhat 4.2 for the first time. i got it installed, but it wasn't easy. i then remember trying 6.1 on a friend's machine. i recommended that he switch over to slackware because of the redhat installation being graphical.
maybe it is just the geek in me that makes me toy with my computer. sure, i do real work on my machine. doesn't mean i want to work all the time. just sitting back playing tuxracer, gltron, and quake are awesome. and running counterstrike under wine is beautiful.
(continued…) – by errorlevel
|am i just missing something here? (cont'd) (11:46am est sat apr 21 2001)
to the fool who says linux has been around longer than windows nt, microsoft windows 1.0 was released 20 november 1985. windows nt was first displayed at comdex in october of 1991. linus torvalds bought his first machine based on an intel architecture, a 386 dx33, on 5 january 1991. in september 1991 linus torvalds pulls together what he dubs version 0.01 of linux.
linux has come a long way and at a much faster pace considering what has been coded from scratch. when microsoft first started making its gui for windows nt, it had its code for its previous versions of windows to help. linux guis are all from scratch.
if you ask me, i think linux is doing a very impressive job.
my sources for these postings are:
and glyn moody's rebel code. isbn 0-7382-0333-5 – by errorlevel
|erm… windows? (12:19pm est sat apr 21 2001)
windows sucks, just because you're not used to a command prompt doesn't mean you can say linux is a failure!!! trust me, you'll all be interested in it when it gets all graphical and lovely and every piece of software in the world will be ported to it… but until then you're leaving it to the geeks to get their hands dirty and do all your work for you. shame on you. i can use dos extremely well, and windows, and linux is just better. so next time you accidentally click "shut down to dos prompt" call me and i'll tell you what a keyboard does, ya lazy, good for nothing, idle…. – by not me
|charmaka (12:20pm est sat apr 21 2001)
sometimes it's more important to have an os that will install quickly and smoothly – even if it crashes every ten minutes…
what are you talking about. i don't know of any os that crashes every ten minutes unless it is majorly fubar or faulty hardware.
|today (12:53pm est sat apr 21 2001)
lighten up man… or can you not spot sarcasm? – by charmaka
|is redhat support firewire? (3:25pm est sat apr 21 2001)
from redhat website they mention that new kernel support usb and hotplug devices but they not mention about firewire. i just wonder if they do. i know mandrake is twin of redhat, if mandrake support firewire then it's likely that redhat would to.
man, i hate short description it makes me wonder. – by youngun
|re: sigh (3:30pm est sat apr 21 2001)
it is good to see that one way or another you are into linux …
otherwise, i would not see your point on posting into a linux "party" at 2:06am est. probably it is early night where you are and you can post a couple of messages and still have a life.
linux does not seem to be for you, so wait for windows xp, and its first service pack to get it working.
oh boy, … i have been up all night …
well got to go now and catch up with my life.
|linux (10:10pm est sat apr 21 2001)
l oading ?
i nstalled ?
n ope.
u h-oh
x ^&(@!$
and since noer asked, i'm right here,
|freebsd (7:09am est sun apr 22 2001)
just wondering if any of you geeks can help me out here. i'm trying to install freebsd on my laptop. everything goes fine, but the damn thing won't take when i try to boot it (i'm runing it with win98 as a second os (i need some apps that will only run on it for now)). i'm thinking the problem lays in the fact that i can't set the bsd partition to stay bootable. if anyone can help, it'd be greatly appreciated.
firstname.lastname@example.com – by rent5252
|alternate download sites (12:31pm est sun apr 22 2001)
thanks shadow the site yew gave was greate especiallay for cable/dsl users the one posted by geek seems to be fine for dialup (limit's to about 38k) but this on is cool! i just started my ext download @ the beginning of typing this reply & am already @22%!
rocks! thankx again shadow! – by mountainbear
|back to the topic (11:08pm est sun apr 22 2001)
i wanted to see what the linux craze was so i did some tinkering around and bought myself corel linux 1.0, it sucked. assuming version 1.2 (second edition) would be better, i plunked down a couple more $ (yes, i know, real linux users don't buy, they download, but i had a slow modem at the time). it was just the same crap. i had to do several work arounds and read through newsgroups just to get it working (once corel finally sent me the cd, since it wasn't in the box and i'd ordered it online). it was a nice attempt but they 'bastardized' it too much.
i finally gave up on corel and downloaded linux-mandrake 7.2 and what a difference. mandrake is the version of linux that users have been waiting for. 7.2, while not perfect, is as functional as windows 98se, as stable as nt 4.0 (or win 2000) and the price is perfect. it has it's own update (similar to windows update) and sets up xdsl connections, nics, etc., fast and easily. i even got it to install properly on my omnibook 5700 (p166 laptop) with no problems. all the software you need is there and yes, there are linux games: q3, tribes, railroad tycoon, etc.
sorry for the long email but when i see a great product like this, i have to promote it. – by g. frederick
|g. frederick (2:01am est mon apr 23 2001)
mandrake is a great platform to look at when you are starting to get into linux. sorry you had to try corel first and spend the money but i am glad it did not turn you off from linux. i don't know what the heck those guys at corel were thinking but it was pure crap. they would do better by just porting their apps to linux. – by rax
|damn!!! (4:08am est mon apr 23 2001)
i'm in thailand right now on a slow dial up connection shared with 20 other users at an internet center. guess i'll have to wait until i reach civilization again to get the lastest iso files. but i can live with mandrake 7.2 until i can get to a broadband connection. – by nom$kissass
|stability (5:47am est mon apr 23 2001)
i used w2k on my comp. i got rid of it when it crashed during normal stress test. in fact, it crashed so hard it wouldn't work anymore. on the other hand, i have ran numerous stress-tests on my linux (on a same machine). those tests have been alot more demanding than the one that crashed w2k. linux has passed every single test with flying colors!
as for market-share. isn't linux's share as a network-server 20-30% and rising? and isn't it one of the most popular web-servers in the world? or was it the most popular…
oh yeah, linux has failed…. – by janne
|comment record (11:22am est mon apr 23 2001)
i wonder which geek.com stories generate the most comments and the most verbose comments? seems that linux-mandrake is pretty high up there. this may be a geek record in the making … – by nom$kissass
|linux, unix, windows, etc. (11:27am est mon apr 23 2001)
just to clarify a few points regarding market share. windows dominates the market on the desktop and consumer systems. nt is used for servers of small to medium sized networks. unix(linux is just another type of unix) dominates the mission critical server and large(enterprise) level server market(about 55-60%). unix(other flavors than linux)has been around since the early 60's. – by steve t.
|one note… (12:05pm est mon apr 23 2001)
unix did not come about until 1969 when ken thompson started work on it at bell labs. – by errorlevel
|re: alternate download sites (7:34pm est mon apr 23 2001)
i am glad that it worked fine for you.
i found
and the md5sum worked fine.
– by theshadowknows
|mandrake 8 is fantastic! (12:10pm est sat may 12 2001)
ive used a bunch of oss in the past decade. the majority of the time with macs, starting with 6.08 all the way up to 8.5. ive lost count of how many times ive crashed those systems. i went to college and got a pc . . it came with win98se2. a lot of software, thank god, but, it still crashed. and ran like crap. i got a copy of win2k. that is much much more stable, but a couple of things dont work.
i then decided to try linux. i bought a book, install redhat in a weekend or something like that. it came with redhat7. rh7 was a big mistake. pain in the butt to use. im just learning linux, and i want something easy to use. i then heard about mandrake's distro. i got a copy of mandrake 8.
i dont think be needing to use win2k much anymore. mdk8 just simply works. install was fast! my sound card worked! everything worked, except my shitty winmodem. grrrr…..
mandrake 8, at least from a newbies perspective, is lightning fast and rock solid. great system! i like rpmdrake for installing stuff. and the userdrake program is the way it should be done. i dont have the time to learn text commands right now.
for a anyone who wants to get rid of windows, i highly recommend mandrake 8. – by slammer
|i got it. (3:31pm est fri jun 01 2001)
ok, i got mandrake 8.0 installed on my second hard drive and i am loaded for bear!
the good: 1) the install was very smooth. more automation, but advanced users can still get in there and tweak the process. 2) my geforce2 mx vid card was recognized. i got a nice display straight out. cool beans. 3) my onboard sound was recognized! first time i ever had sound at first boot with linux. 3) there are drivers for my lexmark 2050 printer. yes!
the bad:
1) yes, i've got usb, but it's not obvious to me how to have my usb modem recognized as a modem. got to work on that. 2) i was able to print a test page, and felt godlike until i saw the output. eww. completely unreadable. gotta work on that. 3)it takes over 2 minutes to boot to the desktop. win me on the same machine boots in twnty seconds. plus with me my modem and printer work right away. :::sulk:::
i want to be wintel-free, but i'm not there yet.
– by toolpackinmama
|forced to give up wintendo (7:15am est sun jun 10 2001)
i like the graphical, easy to operate, gaming environment m$ offers. however, when i started doing serious stuff (like parsing big text files) for work, i found that i need things like awk and shell scripting in a scalable, non-limited way. virtually impossible on wintendo. my girlfriend still reads her e-mail on bills software, but i run everything on linux. it's now i realise what i have been missing all these years. please let's have even better graphical – pnp installations. mandrake bravo! – by alinuxenduser
|linux is the best…… (4:39pm est wed aug 15 2001)
but why the heck you have to have a windows emulator to run on linux. i always thought winhoes was for the cracker wannabe folks. i completly moved over to linux but i can't do jack without getting some software. where are the descent games, the isp's for linux, heck!!! wheres the pos america online for linux. – by email@example.com
|linux question (4:55pm est wed aug 15 2001)
where's the real 3d games like a simple descent iii, or quake ii, or maybe even unreal for linux, we need more communication programs too like that stupid a*# aol for linux. we all need to get rid of those, very buggy,3 second crashes, retarded,backwards working, don't know how to create better patches for there software, me??what is m.e. sounds like a fag version update. microsoft and thier xp what x.p. "xtra pu$$y" or something. mna linux will take over the fucking world soon and leave bill gates ass at home filling out applications to come work for the linux distribution. and why is it everytime i go look at the news on the web i see "microsoft and linux are at it again" because microsoft thinks thier bad asses and don't do crap but make low based firewalls that just accepts every virus that comes through, while linux is busy drinking wine and smoking the best blunts celebrating the good times of winpos 2000 or that dumb m.e. what we need is a good breeze of nice software to sit in front of microsofts shelfs and just watch microsoft lose money. linux baby linux oh yeah everyone who uses windows…….get some mandrake linux 8.0 and say goodbye to microhos – by firstname.lastname@example.com


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Little Johnny talks with the Pastor
After church, Johnny tells his parents he has to go and talk to the minister right away.
They agree and the pastor greets the family.
"I heard you say today that our bodies came from the dust."
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JPP members have experience and training in musical genres outside folk music, for example classical and jazz, therefore expanding the scope of their music far wider than ordinary fiddle groups. In effect, JPP have created a style all their own, one that is impossible to categorize easily and one which continuously surprises.
JPP has toured and performed on every continent and has a collection of ten albums to their credit. Their new album Artology exhibits the brilliant composing skills of fiddler Arto Järvelä while simultaneously sending the listener on an exciting melodic journey through the heart of Ostrobothnian fiddle country and JPP's own imagination, featuring plenty of unexpected twists and turns.
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1. En till Sven (One for Sven) 3:12
2. Tomahuta & Pöhölö 6:34
3. Hämmennys (Perplexcity) 5:06
4. Murhe (Grief) 5:57
5. Tango de Caro 2:59
6. Yli Äyräiden (Over the Banks) 3:59
7. Sutela (Sutherland) 3:34
8. Käyden (Andante) 4:34
9. Roudaneristyspolkka (The Frost Separation Polka) 2:06
10. Stuffologie (live at the Kaustinen Festival '05) 11:39
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