text: bac9 571 Posted April 21, 2013 (edited) This pack vastly expands a selection of parts, in particular with high-quality spaceplane components such as new engines, cockpits, wings and fuselage systems.Version R4.0c is up! Mediafire.com mirrorHow to install:Double-check whether you are using KSP version 0.22 or higher. Your root KSP folder should already contain GameData and Ships folders. Overwrite them with folders from the archive. Do not, under any circumstances, extract just GameData/B9_Aerospace/Parts folder alone, the mod won't work this way. With a proper installation, you should have multiple new folders in GameData alongside with Squad folder that was there originally. Do not try to move the part folders elsewhere or sort them by category subfolders, that will break resource linking in all configs. You don't need the Source folder for the mod to work, it contains source code for all the plugins.Need help with aircraft design?Read this excellent post by keptin.Inspiration album:Changelog:_______________________________▼ R3.5 // Current version * 0.22 compatibility update. * Updated ExsurgentEngineering.dll, Firespitter.dll, KineTechAnimation.dll, ResGen.dll * All textures converted to the uncompressed TGA format and will remain in it from this version onwards (previously, the PNG was used). Memory footprint in the game is unchanged. The benefits include sliced by approximately half, the compressed archive size being slightly smaller, and mip maps being generated properly by the engine. * All parts are hooked into the tech tree. Parts aren't dumped to a single node, unlock gradually and, as possible, are arranged in a way that provides enough parts for you to build usable crafts at all stages of the tech tree progression. No SABREs at tier 3, no bizjets at tier 8, no shuttle control surfaces without shuttle wings and fuselages. All parts should also be compatible with the modded tech trees, as they usually preserve the original node names our configs are linked to. * Added new landing gear parts that blend into the parent parts and fit a huge variety of aircraft. Choose between twin-wheeled and single-wheeled configuration, two different clearances and two different colors (allowing them to blend perfectly with all-purpose gray or plated black pieces). All landing gears are equipped with togglable electric motors and can be steered. * Added new solid rocket separation boosters to replace the awkward stock one. * Added the shielded variety of A1 light. It is mostly intended for use as the landing light, as new gear models, in contrast with stock ones, have no light sources to avoid breaking through per-pixel light limits and improve performance. Comes in two colors, same as the landing gear set. * Added the 1.25m (MK1) aerodynamic junction part. Useful for nice transitions to radial engines, fancy boosters on rockets, and stylish UAV glider noses. * Added new struts to finally retire the stock ones from every single craft. First variety is functionally identical to the stock one, just a bit more sturdy * and quite better looking. Second variety is where it gets interesting: it's a strut part with an invisible middle piece. Exceptionally useful when you * want a clean design without all the messy cables: basically, you just place two very suble blocks and imagine how structural integrity was improved somewhere inside the craft. Clean and performance-friendly. Oh, those new parts have no shadow casting, - that might help with FPS on heavy crafts which typically use hundreds of struts. * Added MK2 cargoholds. Not very roomy, but they can still hold some useful payloads like 0.625m satellites or science modules, finally making the MK2 fuselage system useful for useful SSTO designs (!). * Added the smaller 5-port omnidirectional RCS blocks in line with already existing linear and 12-port varieties. Added dark-colored versions of RCS parts to allow them to blend with the shielded areas of the fuselages. * Added three new winglet sizes (2.3x1.6m, 3x2.2m, 3.2mx2.75m) and two new stabilator sizes (2.3x1.6m, 3x2.2m) to completely phase out any use of stock control surfaces from the crafts (2.3x1.6m is equivalent to the stock winglet in size). By the way, all 12 non-modular wing parts (stabilators, wingtips and winglets) in the mod are still using one single texture and maintain perfectly even texel density. No stretching, no duplicates, no distorted proportions. * Added new SH wing module (1x4m) to close the last remaining gap in the system. Added the static trailing edge parts that can be added to the backside of SH modular wings, for the first time in history making control surfaces look passable without forcing you to cover all trailing edges with them. Seriously, those a very nice looking. Oh, and control surfaces no longer have a weird orange cross sections on the side. * As separate ASAS/avionics parts became unnecessary since 0.21, all parts related to them (inline/radial/nosecones) are moved to the role of probe cores or sensor packages for the science system. Only exception is the plain MK2 nosecone, which is now decorative. * Added few small parts, in particular: a green omnidirectional light (crafts can finally have proper colored pair of navlights on their wings), large radial DSI intake that's close in performance to the RBM intake, large air brake with roughly 3 times the surface area of the old one, * All sample crafts completely updated to make use of new struts, lights, landing gears, wing pieces and other parts. Some were significantly redesigned. New crafts added, including a lightweight MK2 SSTO, three maneuverable UAVs and a subsonic glider. Full list: * D-175 Strugatsky: Long-range, short-takeoff subsonic cargo transport. * BRV-4 Heinlein: High-performance heavy SSTO, trading off cargo transport capability for the generous fuel reserves. * I8-L Bradbury: High speed atmospheric crew transport. * SCDV Vonnegut: Advanced SSTO with the cargo transport capability. * TR7 van Vogt: Light and fast MK2 SSTO with the cargo transport capability. * UAS-1 Barnard's Star: Extremely maneuverable lightweight UAV with thrust vectoring. * UAS-2 Polaris: Stable lightweight UAV. * UAS-3 Centauri: Extremely maneuverable MK2 UAV employing RCS and thrust vectoring instead of traditional control surfaces. * UL-1 Kornbluth: Subsonic personal transport with generous lift and convenient landing gear configuration. * VX-1 Vance: VTOL and RCS technology demonstrator, highly maneuverable and incredibly stable for it's class. * YF-28 Haldeman: Four-engine thrust vectoring fighter jet with extreme pitch and roll authority. * Increased connection forces of the laggers and railings, fixed the crash tolerances. * Added the specular maps to a few parts that lacked them. * Revised the descriptions of multiple parts to be more informative and less so kerbal (RCS, radial control parts, etc.) * Hypersonic mode on S3 cockpit returns and works as intended again. * Balance changes to the SABRE Engines: Slightly less efficient air-breathing mode performance with greater thrust, slightly more efficient LFO mode with decreased thrust. Makes the engines less viable for prolonged gliding in the atmoshpere and more useful for space stuff different from barely circularizing in the LKO. * Air consumption of the turbojet engine is increased. * Action names on S2 crew part revised to fit into the fields. * R1A air-powered RCS linear port ISP tweaked. * VTOL engines rotation and steering inverted, enabled the velocity curve on VA1 and disabled the gimbal on it. * Air brakes connection strength values added. * Thrust vectoring engines are no longer trying to participate in roll control when they don't have a symmetrical counterpart._______________________________▼ R3.3 * Compatibility patch for KSP 0.21. * Added appropriate modules introduced by the patch to the pods * ASAS/avionics module discontinued, all twin control parts are now using 0.21 SAS, differing only visually. * SAS parts changed to work with 0.21 reaction wheel system, appropriate tweaks made, including changed names. * Firespitter.dll updated to 5.3.1 * Turbofan engines updated to use new thrust-based spin mechanics. * Example crafts updated to have electricity sources to account for 0.21 SAS and reaction wheels using it. * Added an inline stack decoupler._______________________________▼ R3.2 * Replaced ExsurgentEngineering.dll with a new version, now compatible with ModuleManager. Thanks to careo for the fix._______________________________▼ R3.1c * Hotfix for P4 & P8 structural panel configs._______________________________▼ R3.1 * Fixed raised MK1 tail model to show up properly instead of straight one. * Cargo bays should now be detected properly by FAR, shielding the contents and preventing cargo crafts with payloads from flying like bricks. * Intake stats recalculated using a different formula (factoring the root of mass / 0.01 for unitScalar, and factoring (unitScalar*sqrt(coeff))/(unitscalar+1) into the speed). Nothing changed gameplay-wise, but that will fix improper flow reporting in KSP context windows. Nope, RBM intakes never were 10 times more powerful than others, KSP lied to you. It will continue to lie about air speed though. * Fixed S2 Body 2m model. * P4 and P8 reinforced structural panel nodes changed. While stock bug that forbids parenting with nodes on more than one axis is still present and unsolved, axis that works should be vertical now, which contains most useful nodes suitable for adapters and other stuff. * SCDV Vonnegut example craft updated to use new wing models. * S2W 3.75m adapter no longer contains LFO in structural version. * SABRE M Precooler node sizes fixed. * Included source files folder that was missing from R3.0c (uh-oh)._______________________________▼ R3.0c * Fixed MK2 monopropellant tank fuel type. * Fixed SABRE body parts attachment nodes and naming. * Changed folder name to GameData to avoid issues on Linux._______________________________▼ R3.0 * Total part count now at 175. * Everything converted to be compliant with 0.20+ data system. * Memory usage and disk space usage reduced more than x2.5 thanks to file referencing available in 0.20+. * The mod now occupies only 73mb (!!!), less than R2.5 and less than stock parts. Loading is faster than for all stock parts combined. * Mass, capacity and connection strength values on parts were updated using a better algorithm. * Lift, drag, mass and connection strength values wings updated using a better algorithm. Stuff falls apart quite more hesitantly now. * Vastly updated, improved and expanded selection of example crafts. * Added TFE731 small subsonic high-bypass turbofan engine with surface-attached pylons in straight and raked variants. * Added CF34 large subsonic high-bypass turbofan engine with surface-attached pylons in straight and raked variants. Perfect for heavy lifting, now used on D-175. * Added D-30F7 turbojet engine. Perfect when brute force is required, now used on I8-L. * Added F119 low-bypass turbofan featuring 2D thrust vectoring. Extreme control authority, used on new YF-28 example craft. * Added SABRE Engines in 1.25m and 2.5m sizes, featuring plugin powered, separate twin modes of operation, and complementary structural and intake parts. Perfect engine for SSTO designs, used on several updated & new example crafts. * Added VA1 VTOL jet engine, used on new VX-1 example craft. * Added a matching nosecone part for VS1 VTOL engine and intake part for VA1 VTOL engine. * VTOL Engines are now powered by Firespitter plugin allowing extensive and easy control over engine rotation. * Where suitable (SABRE, ramp), intakes are using animated variable geometry dependent on air speed (powered by KineTechAnimation plugin). * Vastly improved thrust vectoring module that takes into account all engines present on aircraft at once and controls each independently, allowing thrust vectoring to be used to assist in roll maneuvers (!!!) and overall improving stability and efficiency of thrust vectoring engines. Everything also returns to the neutral state upon thrust vectoring switch off, instead of getting stuck in the last position. * MK2 cockpit IVA performance improved. * S2 cockpit RCS ports now functional. * Center of mass on all wings set to attachment node to improve stability. * All animated parts are now using vastly improved generic animation module by Firespitter that allows in-editor toggling of state (e.g. for cargo bay doors), toggling in EVA where applicable (e.g. ladders), action names being displayed in action group editor, ability to reverse animation mid-playback, and much more. * HL fuselage system : * Added 0.5m SAS. * Added 8m cargo hold. * 7 new wing parts: large wingtips, winglets and stabilators. * MK1 fuselage system: * Added structural & LF tank varieties in 2m and 5m (more convenient than stock pieces of quite weird length). * Added normal and raised tail sections. * Added inline ACU. * Added inline SAS. * MK2 fuselage system: * Added MK2 to 2x1.25m bicoupler structural adapter. * Added inline RCS monopropellant tank. * Added inline SAS. * Added normal and raised tail sections. * S2 fuselage system: * Added 2m & 6m Cargo bays. * Added inline SAS. * S2W wide body fuselage system: * Added S2 to 4x1.25m adapter in structural and LFO versions. * Added S2 to 2x2.5m adapter in structural and LFO versions. * Added intake-less S2 to S2W adapter in structural and LFO versions. * S2W Intake Adapter airflow fixed. * S2W Intake Adapter drag fixed. * Added S2 to 3.75m adapter in structural version. * Added enormous S2W cargo bays in 2m and 6m versions. * Rotated Radial ACU/ASAS so they can be told apart in Editor parts list. * Added long-requested shielded docking port. * Added aerodynamically shielded R12 RCS Thruster Block and R1 Linear RCS Port ports. * Added R1A Air Thrust Nozzle that can be used in air-powered atmospheric reaction control system for VTOLs (powered by ResGen plugin). * Added long-requested alternative pitot circular intake. * Added surface-attached diverterless intake. * Added two variable-geometry ramp intakes: both can be surface attached, one features engine mount on the back. * Added intake/engine mount matching aforementioned intakes. * Added airbrake part (tied to brake action group, can be rotated to variate the amount of drag produced, can be toggled or held open temporarily). * Added radial RCS tanks in 2 sizes, matching new RCS blocks in style. * Added triangular structural panels allowing for much more freedom in builds. * Added A1 floodlight coming in as solo piece and in 4x & 8x arrays. * Added configurable info drive part that allows you to write information about your crafts (action group descriptions, optimal ascent profiles, background stories) that can be displayed to anyone during flight. Used on every example craft._______________________________▼ R2.5The notorious FAR bug with spontaneously exploding delta wings is solved completely (it turns out mesh colliders with triangular surfaces aren't supported).FAR configs merged with stock configs, no need to install them separately anymore.MK5 cockpit hatch obstruction issue completely fixed. Unfortunately, the solution involved offsetting the part, so you will have to reattach that cockpit on all your crafts. Fortunately, in contrast with wings, that would be easy to do.Further rebalancing of some parts.Updated existing example crafts: - D-175 Strugatsky heavy transport plane (docking clamp in the cargo hold, action group to close cargo doors, MK5 repositioned after, ACU unit)- BRV-4 Heinlein SSTO spaceplane (balance updates, additional control surfaces, ASAS unit)Added new example craft: I8-L Bradbury, supersonic crew transport capable of taking 12 passengers on board.Added new parts:- Radial ASAS- Radial avionics (ACU)- MK2 ASAS nose cone- SH/SE 1m control surfacesFixed the shading issues on S2 cockpit model._______________________________▼ R2.4Complete rebalancing of part mass, crash tolerances, capacities and other parameters. Should result in much more sturdy and nice flying crafts.Warning! Wings structure had to be changed to solve the main source of issues with FAR. Point of origin was moved to attachment point for all wings (with the move compensated through CoMOffset parameter). Unfortunately, this can break existing modular wing setups you are using. Won't happen again.Added two example crafts: - D-175 Strugatsky heavy transport plane - BRV-4 Heinlein SSTO spaceplaneAdded new parts: - S2 widebody 1.25m engine mount (S2W->S2+4x1.25m adapter) - S2 large crew tank (6m, 6 seats) - S2 monopropellant tank - A65 2m semi-span delta wing (additional piece for the modular wing system)Restored C125 adapter that was mistakenly removed onwards from R2.Fixed large structural S2 fuselage section model, should no longer exhibit z-figthing issues.Fixed interior display emissive animation to be less noticeable.Texture improvements on some parts._______________________________▼ R2.3Lots of config fixes to improve balance.Two raised part versions by Taverius (MK2 to 1.25m adapter and S2 tail section) which can be very useful to prevent tailstrikesNew parts - New structural panels (2m & 1m) - Ladders and railings in 1m sizeAdded a separate texture for the S2 LFO tankFixed railing and S2 fuselage radial attachment orientationFixed FAR HW21 config, and some other changes I have probably forgot_______________________________▼ R2.2Config fixes.Mesh collider fixes._______________________________▼ R2.1Fixed some config errors (mismatched MK4 adapter node, wing naming, S2 LFO tank naming, HW21 lift values).First iteration of FAR-compliant configs by Taverius added to the package.New part: 1.25m to MK2 adapter._______________________________▼ R2Second milestone release, 85 parts (6 pods, 3 IVAs)._______________________________▼ R1First release, 12 parts (2 pods, 1 IVA).Some notes:Start by going through example crafts to familiarize yourself with new parts. Want to build VTOLs? Fly VX-1 first, note how air thrust RCS nozzles, SAS and engines are used there. Want to build cargo SSTO? Check SCDV, etc.You can interrupt all animations mid-playback thanks to new animation module, put that to good use.CF34 engine has reversers, make sure to play with that.Click on images on top to open high-resolution versions.Use struts to secure HL fuselage extension sections. As non-linear craft hierarchy is not supported yet, I had to make extenders as separate branches with one attachment point (otherwise they won't work as a straight fuel line). Obviously, that can lead to some funny bending, especially if you are using, say, 10 meters of extended sections and have some heavy wings on them. Struts will help. By the way, we have fancy new struts in R4.0.You can press the buttons on IVA displays. Yes, with the mouse.Click onto windows in IVA views, I have set up additional view points for each IVA, and you will be transferred to a different point upon double-clicking on a proper area. For example, you can move to the front to get a good wide look from M27 windows, or you can click onto the right section of the glass in the MK2 cockpit to press your head against it and peek at what another pilot is doing. You can toggle VTOL mode on VS1/VA1 engines by right-clicking them and choosing the context menu option. But best option is to bind raise/lower actions to action groups!You can toggle lights in the windows on most cockpits by right-clicking them.You can toggle the lighting and protective shielding on S2 crew tank.You can toggle the lighting on new modular ladders, it looks great and helps in the darkness.Use HL tail sections carefully, only open the ramps when fully stopped or you are risking tearing your craft apart.Don't be afraid to overlap new wings with each other, they are designed precisely with that in mind. Triangular parts of their cross-sections are always situated outside of 4m boundaries and aren't part of the collision mesh. Strut them together if you are using multiple lines to prevent unsightly independent bending.I recommend to install KW Rocketry and Taverio's Pizza and Aerospace mods for vastly improved selection of quality rocket and aircraft parts. Really, having a proper selection of 2.5m fuel tanks, a whole new, absolutely essential 3.75m fuselage system, proper selection of canards and so on is a must, you won't understand later how you managed to play without that.Some older inspiration albums:So, good luck and have fun! I'll be waiting for your feedback.This work is licensed under: The archive includes Firespitter.dll plugin that was not modified in any way and is used under permission of original author, Snjo. Additional thanks go to Taverius for his great help with the balancing, dedicated FAR configs, and testing of the parts, as well as general advice on development. Edited October 20, 2013 by bac9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites


text:
Vegatable & Fruit Juice (1 review)
Ace Vegatable & Fruit Juice
Come on baby. Let's just get down tonight. I know we come from different sides of the tracks, you being fruit punch and me being a vegetable juice. It's about time that we knock boots, right? We've been together for three weeks and I've been good not to ask you for it. You know, it. Let's just pour our juices together. This is an old car, we can go in the back, put down a tarp, and get our juices all over the place. Mix 'em up. You know you want to, girl. Yeah girl. Unscrew that cap. Yeah, just throw it in the front seat. Come on, girl. I drink my vegetable juice all the time. It's about time that I drank some fruit juice. Daddy needs his vitamin C. I've had my cap off for ten minutes now. I was born ready. Just splash some stuff over there. Yeah, that's the stuff.
Hey, would you mind doing something for me? Would your pour some of your delicious fruit juice in my head? I just want to try it out. I want to taste what our juices together taste like. Yeah, just pour it right on in there. Don't worry about getting some on me. I love it. Now let me take a sip here. Ugh, are you feeling alright? Ugh, this is gross. What am I going to do now? It's all mixed in and I'm going to have to drink fifty-five gallons of it. This was a terrible idea. Maybe they were right. Maybe this is why you're not supposed to mix your side of the tracks with my side. Vegetable juice and fruit juice just don't mix. Oh, sure, girl, it's fun to make, but to drink...it's like fruit but then carrot flavored fruit, then just strange cabbage or spinach. I'm sorry, Daphne, you've got to go. I've got to clean this up and I might throw up and you don't want to see that. I'm sorry, baby. It's not you. It's me.
- Website
- http://www.kuangchuan.com
- Country
- Taiwan
- Sweetener
- Sugar
- Categories
- Juice
- Rating
- Reviewed By
- Mike Literman on December 9th, 2011
- Comments
- View and Leave A Comment

subset: commoncrawl


text:
round, that's cool. as long as you're understanding what's causing it. Jumps get blown out all the time. You gotta pick the best lines the jump offers. It's cool your track fixed the jump, but at most races (especially nitro) jumps like that don't get fixed. It's still a good idea to learn how to approach blownout jumps.
BT EMT, I've always believed that the larger canned motors were better suited for the 4x4 SC trucks due to their heavier weight. Obviously, there will be specific conditions where the smaller motors may handle better, but overall I like the larger motors. They never struggle.
Wrapping up a couple articles right now for the Slash 4x4. Way too much info for one article. For starters there will be an RTR or basic setup guide for best results with minimal changes. Basically, a good setup for people just buying teh truck that wants it more suited for the track without changing a bunch of stuff. Then, there will be a more elaborate setup guide that wil focus on more technical setup stuff along with accessories good for racing and so on. Then, maybe in the future I can follow up with specific setups for different motor systems.
Yep, right now we have two jumps where the middle is blown out. You can clear it in the middle but only if you have enough of a running start. Best line is to the right or left. I changed something else to help with temps and power. I switched to a Neu 1509 1y 3600kv motor. Have you tried it yet? It is awesome to say the least! Super powerful, light, and gobs of torque and top end.
Thanks for the tips, everyone at the track wants to know my secrets. Even the hypers-Jammins can't hang.
round, shoot me a pm on that motor. Thanks!
PM sent sir. I will post some pics later of my setup.
Hi, need you guys to explane something to a neebie....
Am I correct when I assume that 5k wt diff oil is thicker than 7k wt?
And that 5k will give more of a "locked" differential than with 7k wt?
Just looking at setup sheet that Slayden has and trying to figure out why he does like he do.
The center diff, why use thinner or thicker oil? Thicker oil will give more power to the front wheels?? If thats correct, when don't you need power at the front wheels??
No the higher the number, the thicker, heavier the oil is.
ah, the wrong way then...thanks
Ah I remebered wrong as well, I thought he had 5k in front, but he got 7k in front. So I thought correct but wrong...
So when Slayden says 7k in front, he wants tracktion on both front wheels.
Then 5k in the back to get a better steering?
And 10k in the center to transfer enough power between front and rear?
You got the front/rear right.
For the center, 50-75k is recommended.
Lighter oil in the center will transfer more power to the front, will make the car easier to drive on power but could cause more understeer. The car may have less acceleration as well.
Heavier oil in the center will retain more power to the rear, less unloading on the front. This will help the car accelerate better, provide more steering. This could also make the car more difficult to drive and oversteer, depending on how much rear traction you have and your driving style.
I'm so going to fubar this up on the tracks...
Pics of the NEU
Gadgeteer is right. I've been testing even thinner fluids in the center diff with good results.
Try 30K center diff with 10K front and rear. This has given a pretty solid feel. Lighten the rear a little on smaller tracks.
This setup is worth trying. see what you think.
Hello Slaydaddy,
I noticed you normally recommend thicker shock oils for hotter weather, do you recommend the same with the diff oils? or are the diff oils being a lot thicker to begin with and is a little more shielded from outside temperature so is less affected?
The temperature where I run gets to about 95F, last time I ran, the rear shocks on my 4x4 got to about 108F after a 9 min run ( I have 700cst on both F/R shocks)
Last edited by Gadgeteer; 05-28-2010 at 07:25 AM.
Hi Slaydaddy.
why cant I find you on youtube ?
I wanna see a race that your in.
slash 4x4 VXL, Novak HV4.5, MMP
whats the main reason for loosing teeth on the spur gear?
Pinion to close or just heavy stops and starts or??
I'm talking about single teeth.
13T pinion / 54T spur. Org esc and motor, but with 3S LiPo.
jack rabbit starts and stops will do it. My buddy Panic Rev did it by slamming the brakes on at a full sprint. I did it by not paying attention to the pinion being loose. Gear mesh certainly plays a part as well. The spur is plastic...they WILL strip. 3S is pretty hard on ALL the parts of the truck...even though Traxxas CLAIMS it can take 3S...I wouldn't do it on the stock motor/esc personally. But people DO.
Paul Valenti
Slash 4X4 #25 (Mark Jenkins)
Slaydaddy, your rough loose track set up works like a champ with my new trenchers.Thanks.
WOW, I just read this entire thread and the info is great. Thank you Slaydaddy for all your input. And to all the rest of you for asking the questions. Now I can't wait to get home (6 more days) and open my new PE Slash which got delivered 2 days ago. Going to be tuned before it even turns a wheel.
Armor11 . You should take for a spin first then do the up-grades and dail it in .Then see will see and feel the difference of all that work you going to do. Just my thought !
I cant stop playing with it !!!
Thank you Armor11 so I can race my Slash when ever and were ever I want !
Good point! I guess a person should really see what the starting point is.Originally Posted by Brian Detroit
i have the setup on my truck, but iv tweaked a few things and the results were awesome!! i went to 40 all around, and moved the shocks all out 1 position on the bottom, set my camber to -2 all around (i didn have the camber set before, so all my wheels pointed differently)
i went from having a very loose rear end for my qualifiers to a very tight, awesome handling truck for my main! i was actually gonna sell the truck, but now , i cant wait to race it next weekend at the electric only race at the local track!!!
im goin big, then goin home
I bought the 4x4 and am now running on this new track in NW Indiana. Its clay, 1/8 scale buggy/truggy and well... big big jumps. Im running 3s and have almost all Steves setup. Rest of the parts are on the way. Im thinking I need to put in thicker shock oil for these jumps. The track is smooth except for the airtime, and there are LOTS of these big ramps. Im new to all this, as you can tell, and looking for advice. I have no problem spending just dont like wasting money. Already broke MIP's, Jato shafts front and rear, and Ive loosened the slipper... a lot. Teknos look promising but theyre breaking a little now too. I know I have a lot to learn so Im here asking for help. Thank you in advance.
We ran 3 8 minute qualifiers and an 8 min main last wednesday night in about 90degree heat and the motor temped @160 geared 15/54 and used 2900mah. Pretty impressive, I am loving this setup. Oh yeah, it won 1st place too.Originally Posted by round
Originally Posted by round
I second that. My Neu ran 150*F geared 16/54 and took 3rd.
Slaydaddy- If your June 26 and 27th weekend is open, some cajun boys would love to race with you down on that bayou! Action Hobbies is hosting their 6th annual Cajun Classic weekend race in a brand new facility. I know this would be a little low on the radar, but it will have a huge turn out and lots of entries. Would love to have you there!
Emaxx- truggy/CD conversion...
hello slaydaddy.
i am recent to slash 4x4 by for but i have already raced here in portugal other short trucks 4x4..
how do you solve the main shaft problem of the debris and rocks that get stock in there?
have you done something special advise by traxxas?
i lost already a main final because that, and on another race i lost i half final because motor mount bearing failure also....
i really like my slash but loosing races because this things and not by bad setups it sucks.....
Have you tried that motor with the stock vxl esc?
Do you think you can have similar performance if ran with the stock esc?
Originally Posted by Gadgeteer
VXL esc doesn't seem to like 4-pole motors. I've tried a couple setups on my old VXL and none worked out too well. I think the RPM limit of the ESC is coming into play. Since the Neu's are 4 pole motors, they read twice as fast as a 2 pole, like the VXL motor. For instance, if the Neu motor is turning 30K rpms, the ESC will read that it is running 60k rpms.
You'll need to get a MMP or a MMM to be safe.
Emaxx- truggy/CD conversion...
Hi cobalt, glad to see you again. Don't sell the truck!!!Originally Posted by cobaltracer1986
PLEASE do not PM me and immediately go offline :p
I am Round and I approve this messageOriginally Posted by nitrostarter
Thanks Cory
Dude your setup is insane! I raced in Watson LA (Denham Springs) yesterday and the truck couldn't have worked any better. I finished my first heat in second behind an Ofna Hyper. I was geared 15/54. I geared down to 15/52 and that was just what I needed. Finished 1st in the second heat. In the main I got the jump off the line and held a 10 second lead for 6 minutes until I landed and snapped a rear axle carrier. That obviously put me out of the money but I will be ready for the big money race on the 26 and 27th that nitrostarter mentioned. It would be pretty cool if you could make it down here.
round, changing your gearing from 15/54 to 15/52 is not gearing down. thats gearing up.Originally Posted by round
Slash 4x4
Actually, 15/54 is a 3.6 pinion/spur ratio. 15/52 is a 3.4667 ration. I consider that gearing down...
Emaxx- truggy/CD conversion...
3.6:1 is lower than 3.4667:1
3.6 would be geared DOWN FROM 3.4667
3.4667 would be geared UP FROM 3.6
in real world applications a 4x4 that is geared 100:1 final drive ratio is geared much lower and goes MUCH slower ( geared down ) in comparison to a 4x4 that is only geared 30:1
I also got the 1409/1Y NEU and I came in 2nd,3rd,2nd in 5min qualifiers and took 3rd in the main I shouldve had 2nd but I'm having trouble making the big jump every time. I'm geared at 17/52 and desperately wanted to gear down to 16/54 but the hobby shop at the track didn't have it. I'm looking forward to for next race since I'll have more gearing options. I also reached 170 after the 10min main which isn't too bad but not in my desire neither. All in all the MMP/1409 1Y setup simply is the sweet spot! Another part of my setup is the 2.0 shocks and 5/10/3 f/c/r diff oil, front shocks 40w/red springs and for the rear shocks 25w/silver springs but I'm going up to greens in the rear to try and eliminate the truck from flipping over forward after landing the big jump. And the rest of my setup is on page 6 of course with great appreciation to Steve, Thanx!
Last edited by KingdomRacer; 06-15-2010 at 01:28 AM.
JESUS says: "Fix it B4 it Breaks!"
We are running the 1509 1/y not the 1409 and can hit EVERYTHING the 8th scales can. Buggies and Truggies! And I do race 8th scale elec truggy as well. You should have heard the announcer last week when my slash was clearing the two monster doubles in the back straight and I mean hitting the down ramp, not landing short on the table top. Man I can't wait to run the Cajun Classic in two weeks!!!!
So basically you say gear down to refer to more bottom end and gear up to refer to more top end? I always get it mixed up.Originally Posted by Stokjeep
I'm under the impression from Castle that there is not a difference between the 1400 or the 1500 motors except can size, that's why I went wih the 14 instead of the 15. So according to Castle the 1409/1Y and 1509/1Y are the same motor, and this also applies to the rest of the 1400 series. This option helps keep the weight down and still allows for much more gearing options because of the 1400 series 36mm size vs the 1500. And yes I'm hitting all the jumps my 2.0 can hit too (when I can land them) LOL.
Last edited by KingdomRacer; 06-16-2010 at 11:10 AM.
JESUS says: "Fix it B4 it Breaks!"
ATTN: Slaydaddy or any Traxxas employee with an answer. I was running the stock RTR rear axle carriers(p#1952) and one broke so I decided to order the aluminum p#1952x expecting them to be the same but made from aluminum. I got them in today directly from Traxxas and they are labled 1.5 degree and marked r and l. What will the toe in be when mounted correctly and when mounted backwards. I loved how my truck handled with the stock rtr carriers and I don't want to change that.
Please Advise,
I guess if my toe in is going to change them my only option for strength will be the RPM carriers.
I am guessing my toe with the alum. will be 4degrees mounted correctly and 1degrees mounted backwards?
I am not a traxxas employee....
That is correct....
Installed as should be, 4 deg toe in, opposite, 1 deg toe in....
Originally Posted by round


text:
Materials & Coatings
Birmingham Steel-Service Center Adds High-Speed Oscillating Shear Die
Coe Press Equipment, Sterling Heights, MI, has delivered a high-speed oscillating shear die to MISA Metal Blanking, Birmingham, AL, a steel-service center that provides Class A blanks to the automotive industry. The unit stamps trapezoidal and parallel-shaped blanks in the firm's existing blanking press, and features wedge-type blade-gap adjustment. Line speed tops out at 300 ft./min. and hit rate peaks at 65 strokes/min.
Coe Press Equipment: 586/979-4400; www.cpec.com
See also: Coe Press Equipment Corporation
Related Enterprise Zones: Coil Handling, Materials/Coatings
Reader Comments
There are no comments posted at this time.


text:
View All Industries
Making your business stronger
Networking designed to help you achieve better outcomes, whatever your business.
View All Use Cases
How it's done
Looking to do something specific with your network? We can help.
View All Products
Ruckus Partner Program
Redefine Connectivity.
Partner Portal Login
Ruckus reinforcement
We call it customer advocacy. You call it help. Software, documentation, user forums and training.
Enter our doghouse
Meet the folks making the waves work in the Wi-Fi space.
© 2005-2020 Ruckus Networks, an ARRIS Company. All rights reserved.


text:
Gun control and the illusion of safety: 3 letters
Re: "More guns, fewer laws aren't helping matters," Nov. 10 letter to the editor.
Thank you, Tom Mauser, for reminding us that the University of Colorado's policy on concealed weapons keeps that campus safe. So safe, in fact, that a student was stabbed on the first day of class by a former mental patient. Neither guns nor the gun lobby were to blame, just a failed system which allowed this maniac to work on campus.
Mr. Mauser pointedly mentions that the Colorado State Shooting Association is an "NRA affiliate." The NRA — which promotes and teaches responsible gun ownership and usage more than any other organization in America — is an organization which millions of law-abiding folks like myself belong to, not one which advocates for gun violence and death, as some might have you believe.
Cities such as Chicago and Washington, D.C., prove that oppressive gun laws do nothing to thwart gun crime and deaths. Conversely, states like Alaska and Vermont, with virtually no gun laws, experience the opposite trend.
History has proven time and again through the regimes of Hitler, Stalin and Mao, to name a few, that "sensible gun control" only leads to tyranny and genocide. So yes, Mr. Mauser, humanity has historically paid a terrible price for the illusion of safety.
Matt Diehl, Arvada
Once again, Tom Mauser is complaining that we haven't enough gun laws to keep us safe. Mr. Mauser's son was one of the victims of the two crazies who broke nearly every gun law on the books in their attack on Columbine. I deeply sympathize with him over that tragedy. Another of those killed was my neighbor. If something like that happened in my family, I don't know what I would do. But I know what I would not do. I would not rail against guns and plead constantly for more laws to be ignored by drug-thugs, gang bangers and general crazies.
Mr. Mauser won't be content until guns are confiscated in the U.S. You see, Mr. Mauser, only the good guys obey the laws; the bad guys never will. If you want to work for something, work for stiffer penalties for the people who use firearms to kill or commit other crimes.
Richens J.Brehm, Littleton
In his letter, Tom Mauser notes a few tragic shootings that have happened recently — and misuses those events to once again question the "more guns, fewer restrictions" mantra of the NRA-types. But, once again, Mauser offers absolutely no solutions as to how to solve the problem he and everybody in the world knows exists: That there are too many guns in the hands of criminals.
There are really only two plausible solutions.
1. Turn the U.S. into a police state and simply order the police and the military to do Gestapo-style searches of everyone's home, business, and car to look for and seize every firearm of every type. And since I do not know that Mauser and his neighbors do or do not have guns, we can start with them.
2. Allow law-abiding citizens to carry a firearm to be able to protect themselves and others from criminals who already carry firearms in violation of the law — and who will continue to carry a firearm in violation of any law Mauser can imagine.
Mauser's "more laws, fewer guns" idea simply means that law-breaking criminals will be committing more armed crimes against unarmed-and-easy-pickings law-abiding citizens. That may be Mauser's idea of a real good solution, but it's not mine.
More guns in the hands of more law-abiding citizens may not be the absolute best solution. But it sure beats any other idea anyone else has ever come up with.
Robert E Forman, Lakewood


text:
The Wines of Tuscany – with Giovanni Folonari
If the Folonari name is familiar to you, you're not alone. The Folonaris are among Italy's oldest and most prestigious Tuscan wine families with a winemaking history dating back to the late 1700s. In 1825 the family-owned business took the name "Fratelli Folonari," and in 1912, Ambrogio Folonari's grandfather, Italo Folonari, and his brother Francesco purchased the Ruffino company in Tuscany that was famous for its Chianti wine in straw-covered flasks called fiascos.
Prior to launching A. & G. Folonari Tenute, Ambrogio was the president of Ruffino, and an outspoken advocate for Italian wine quality who took Ruffino in a new and original direction. In the late 1960s, the company began focusing on high-quality wines and in 1971 purchased Nozzole, a famous estate located near Greve in the heart of Chianti Classico. In the 1980s, Ambrogio created Cabreo, a unique blend of the traditional Sangiovese and Cabernet Sauvignon, along with La Pietra, a Chardonnay fermented and aged in oak. These wines were among the first in a new group of top wines now widely referred to as "Super Tuscans."
In 2000, both Ambrogio and Giovanni left Ruffino to focus on small-lot, estate-grown wines, committing to reinvesting, and developing and expanding vineyard holdings to continue producing high-quality wines. Join us as we talk with Giovanni Folonari about his family's history, the Tuscany region, and those fascinating Italian appellations.
For more info:
A. & G. Folonari Tenute: en.tenutefolonari.com/
Sponsor: Wine Berserkers: www.wineberserkers.com
Click Below to Play the Show:
Podcast: Play in new window | Download


text:
You are here
Landmark Goodyear House Restored
Eric Cohler beautifully restores an historic home
Glory Days
Houses do have voices. Maybe they're not audible to all, but designer Eric Cohler clearly was listening when he reverently renovated an architecturally significant Long Island home. The glass-and-masonry International Style house was designed by the late modernist architect Edward Durell Stone for A. Conger Goodyear, a highly regarded art collector and founder and first president of New York's Museum of Modern Art (MoMA).
"I felt like I was channeling A. Conger Goodyear," Eric says of his four-year renovation. While the structure was "nearly derelict" after sitting vacant for a half century (inside were bird and animal droppings, termites, and a collapsed roof), Eric heard the echoes of its glamorous past.
There were cocktail parties attended by famous artists in the glass-walled, cylindrical dining room. After supper, the dining table—mounted on a motorized post—was lowered to floor level to allow for dancing. French doors opened the house to multiple terraces and a swimming pool, with views of Long Island Sound, the Atlantic Ocean, and the glittering night lights of New York City.
Architect Stone designed the low, flat-roofed house as a weekend retreat for Goodyear, with deep eaves that shaded the art within from direct sunlight. The two men had met when Stone was helping design the first permanent home for MoMA.
While much of the 6,000-square-foot house spoke of art and glamour, the kitchen's voice was hardly inspiring. "The kitchen was very tight and dark. It was originally designed for the way families lived then, with a butler and staff who took care of the house," Eric says.
The working area of the kitchen was surrounded by a cluster of small rooms, including a butler's pantry, laundry room, maid's quarters, a narrow basement stairway, and two powder rooms ("his" and "hers" for Goodyear's large dinner parties).
The kitchen had been updated in the '60s, but the yellow metal cabinets were badly rusted, and the terra-cotta floor tiles (installed over black linoleum) were loose. "The metal cabinets and other fixtures weren't original to the house, so we didn't keep them," Eric says. "My goal was to bring the home into the 21st century—to make a functional kitchen designed for the way families live today—but still make it look like it could have been built in the '30s," he says.
That meant blowing out walls where structurally possible and eliminating outdated rooms to gain square footage for the kitchen. The former servants' quarters were converted into a sunny breakfast room and a walk-in storage pantry. The his-and-her powder rooms were decommissioned, and that space was integrated into the kitchen and used for a redesigned stairway to the lower level.
"Now everything circulates and is open, so people in the kitchen can talk to someone in the breakfast room or butler's pantry," Eric says. The new stairway gives access to the formerly unfinished basement. After hauling away a behemoth original furnace from that level, Eric installed hand-scraped maple floors, creating new living space.
To introduce natural light, the designer added a large rectangular skylight in the kitchen, a round skylight above the new stairs, and French doors in the breakfast room that go to a landscaped courtyard (formerly a parking lot for staff and delivery trucks). Three original steel-framed windows on the sink wall were stripped and restored, and all new windows and doors were custom made to replicate the originals—down to the hardware.
Eric grounded the kitchen with a black-and-white checkerboard floor. The classic floor pattern is typical of those used in midcentury homes, the designer notes, and repeats the grid motif that architect Stone used throughout the property.
An original cabinet in the butler's pantry inspired Eric's cabinetry choice for the kitchen. The walnut and macassar ebony veneer cabinets are accented with inset mirrored strips and polished nickel hardware. "They looked like something you would have seen in a well-built Bauhaus building back in the '30s—contemporary with a little dash of glamour," Eric says. "I could just imagine a black-and-white movie with Fred Astaire and Ginger Rogers dancing in the kitchen."
The original butler's pantry piece that inspired the cabinetry choice was restored and installed in the master bath. To add variety and avoid overwhelming the kitchen space with dark surfaces, a bow-front dresser and a few other cabinets were painted dove gray.
For the countertops the designer chose a white Danby marble that also seemed period appropriate, although he concedes that builders in the '30s and '40s didn't generally use marble in kitchens. "That was one concession to the 21st century," he says. "We loved the marble look and found stone that looked aged--—like it could be 70 years old."
In keeping with today's kitchen as a social hub, Eric furnished the space with comfortable seating. Bar stools upholstered in easy-care indoor-outdoor fabrics pull up to a breakfast bar separating the work area from the breakfast room.
A settee covered in a charcoal fabric serves as a cozy banquette behind the custom-designed pedestal table. Spills can be easily wiped clean with soap and water, making the furniture virtually indestructible. Above the table hangs a lantern light fixture that Eric designed—again channeling Stone's geometric motifs.
In the circular, glass-walled dining room, slipcovered skirted dining chairs surround the round table. The simple linear shapes of the chairs are in tune with the room's modern influences, and casters on the feet allow for easy movement across the stone floor.
The original wood dining table top was too water-damaged to restore, so Eric had a walnut top custom-made and mounted on the existing post. The motorized lift was a casualty of years of neglect. "The motor was burned out, but the wires are still there," he says, leaving the job for a future dance-loving homeowner.
While light-blocking draperies weren't required, thanks to the architect's deep overhangs, Eric had soft sheers fashioned from fabric to gently filter the sun and provide privacy in the exposed dining room.
Most rooms in the house have at least one wall of glass, and Eric landscaped the five acres of surrounding grounds to make the most of the views. He designed and had built several modern kinetic sculptures, added groves of trees, and furnished terraces with plush all-weather armchairs and sofas.
"I had the exterior finished in the first six months. That was the first thing I did," Eric says. "I wanted to drive up and feel I had arrived at this beautiful structure that had finally had its due. It was in the sun again, alive, no longer a static object but kinetic. It now moves with its environment."
A house with a voice that is ready to be heard from again.
Photography: John Bessler
Produced by Eleanor Roper
Interior Designer: Eric Cohler, Eric Cohler Design, 95 Fifth Avenue, Sixth Floor, New York, NY 10003, 212/737-8600, ext. 28; ericcohler.com.
Architect: Edward Durell Stone
Plumbing, electric, refinishing: Stephen Fanuka, Fanuka Inc., 718/353-4518, fanuka.com.
Sponsors: Armstrong World Industries, Inc. 800/233-3823, armstrong.com.
Circa Lighting, 877/762-2323, circalighting.com.
Lee Industries, 800/892-7150, leeindustries.com.
Sunbrella, 336/227-6211, sunbrella.com.
The Goodyear House
Considered one of the country's leading examples of the International Style, the A. Conger Goodyear home was built in 1938 with walls of windows, a flat roof, deep overhangs, and a signature circular dining room with curved glass walls.
Swimming Pool
The swimming pool was a must for a lavish weekend home, which Cohler restored while preserving the original stonework. A comfortable outdoor seating area sits between the swimming pool and a small reflecting pool.
Original Dining Room
Perfect for cocktail parties, the original dining table was mounted on a motorized post so that it could be lowered to floor-level when dinner was over and the dancing started.
Dining Room
The exterior walls of curved glass provide wide-angle views of the landscaped grounds. Lee Industries chairs slipcovered with Sunbrella fabrics strike simple and elegant silhouettes in the modernist setting.
Dining table (original base, top, custom, material, cerused oak): fabricated by Avanti Furniture Corp., 516/293-8220.
Dining side chair (#7750-01); fabric ("Spinnaker"/Salt, by Sunbrella); 4-inch skirt band and lumbar pillow (Canvas"/Coal, by Sunbrella): Lee Industries, 800/892-7150, leeindustries.com.
Paint ("China White," matte finish): Benjamin Moore & Co., 888/236-6667, benjaminmoore.com.
Flooring (limestone): original to house.
Illumination: cove lighting. Zebra rug: Eric Cohler private collection.
Accessories: owner's collection.
Dining Room Fireplace
Lee Industries dining chairs slipcovered in Sunbrella fabrics are on casters so they can slide around the table or move to side walls when not needed for dining.
Fire screen: original to house.
Dining side chair (#7750-01); fabric ("Spinnaker"/Salt, by Sunbrella); 4-inch skirt band and lumbar pillow (Canvas"/Coal, by Sunbrella): Lee Industries, 800/892-7150, leeindustries.com.
Paint ("China White," matte finish): Benjamin Moore & Co., 888/236-6667, benjaminmoore.com.
Flooring (limestone): original to house.
Zebra rug: Eric Cohler private collection.
Mirror above fireplace: owner's collection.
Original Hallway
A narrow skylight naturally lit the hallway leading to the dining room. The size and angle of the skylight kept Goodyear's prized art collection out of direct sunlight.
Kitchen – Before and After
Stainless steel appliances by Sears Kenmore, a stylish pot rack, and multiple work stations speak to the efficiency of the plan. "My goal was to make a functional kitchen for the way families live today," says designer Eric Cohler.
Cabinetry (custom, The Macassar Collection); cabinetry finish (custom, painted and ebony); pot rack (custom): Smallbone of Devizes, 800/763-0096, smallboneofdevizes.com.
Stainless cookware (Kenmore); refrigerator ("Kenmore Elite" #40483, side-by-side, 48-inch); cooktop ("Kenmore Pro" #40503, slide-in, 36-inch); wall ovens ("Kenmore Pro" #42003, electric double over, 30-inch); dishwashers ("Kenmore Pro" #13173, stainless steel, 24-inch: Kenmore, 888/536-6673, kenmore.com.
Countertops (Danby marble): Artistic Tile, 877/528-5401, artistictile.com.
Island range hood (#KICU465S); refrigerator/freezer drawers, with ice maker (#KDDC24CVS, stainless steel): KitchenAid, 800/422-1230, kitchenaid.com.
Flooring ("Alterna Solids"/White #D4100, 16x16-inch Luxury Vinyl; "Alterna Solids"/Betcha Black #D4101, 16x16-inch Luxury Vinyl): Armstrong World Industries Inc., 800/233-3823, armstrong.com.
Counter stool (#5573-51 with small nickel nails and black walnut finish); chair fabric ("Spinnaker"/Salt, by Sunbrella): Lee Industries, 800/892-7150, leeindustries.com.
Wall paint ("China White," matte finish); trim paint (black, matte finish): Benjamin Moore & Co., 888/236-6667, bejaminmoore.com.
Pot on cooktop: Le Creuset, 877/418-5547, lecreuset.com.
An Armstrong classic black-and-white checkerboard floor and aged-looking Danby marble countertops from Artistic Tile seem at home in the mid-20th-century house. Walls were removed to enlarge the kitchen and create a dining area behind the wall ovens.
Island sink (Professional Series #PSX-110, stainless steel); main sink (Professional Series #PSX-110-30, stainless steel): Franke, 800/626-5771, frankeksd.com.
Island and main faucets ("Single Handle Pull-out Spray" #D455158): Danze, 877/530-3344, danze.com.
Crystal and china are beautifully displayed in a hand-painted and mirrored dresser near the breakfast room. A skylight was added to help unify the compartmental kitchen space.
Bar cabinet with plate and glass rack (custom, The Macassar Collection): Smallbone of Devizes, 800/763-0096, smallboneofdevizes.com.
Counter stool (#5573-51 with small nickel nails and black walnut finish); chair fabric ("Spinnaker"/Salt, by Sunbrella): Lee Industries, 800/892-7150, leeindustries.com.
Dark walnut Smallbone of Devizes cabinets with mirror insets and polished nickel hardware add understated glamour.
"ART" piece on wall: Eric Cohler private collection.
Kitchen Details
Cabinetry by Smallbone of Devizes; a modern faucet for 21st-century living; a freestanding range hood above the elegant yet subtle mirrored cabinets.
Drawer Pull
A stitched leather drawer pull recognizes the home's original owner, A. Conger Goodyear.
Breakfast Room
A room next to the kitchen formerly used for staff quarters was converted into an eating area illuminated by a Circa Lighting lantern designed by Eric.
Details on the following slide.
Pedestal table (custom "Macassar" top, painted base): Smallbone of Devizes, 800/763-0096, smallboneofdevizes.com.
Chairs (vintage, c. 1950): Eric Cohler private collection.
Hanging pendant ("Caged Lantern with Paper Shade" #SC5160, by Eric Cohler): Circa Lighting, 877/762-2323, circalighting.com.
Accessories: owner's collection.
Breakfast Room Details
A Lee Industries settee and vintage chairs gather around the pedestal table.
Dining bench ("Slipcovered Dining Bench" #C7758-56); fabric ("Canvas"/Coal, by Sunbrella); 4-inch skirt band ("Spinnaker"/Salt, by Sunbrella): Lee Industries, 800/892-7150, leeindustries.com.
Original Powder Room
The home's original ladies' room was elegantly decorated, fitting perfectly with the stylish soirees of the day. It was also built large enough for groups of women to gather and primp together. No longer necessary, the "his-and-hers" bathrooms were sacrificed during renovation in order to open more space in the home's new kitchen.
Wood Flooring
Cohler installed beautiful Armstrong hardwood floors in "Century Farm Hand-Scraped Maple" in the home's lower level. Previously the space was an unfinished basement.
Original Living Room
Low furniture, limited ornamentation, and floor-to-ceiling windows are characteristics of International Style. The glass walls allowed for sweeping views of the property, the ocean, and the twinkling lights of New York City.
Poolside Entertaining
To enhance the home's outdoor connections, Cohler expanded living and entertaining spaces by furnishing the terrace and pool areas. Lee Industries outdoor lounge chairs and an ottoman are slipcovered in Sunbrella fabrics that stand up to wet swimsuits and rainy weather.
Chairs ("Yaupon Outdoor Slipcovered Chair" #US118-01); chair fabric ("Spinnaker"/Salt, by Sunbrella); ottomans ("Sunset Outdoor Slipcovered Ottoman" #US103-00); ottoman fabric ("Canvas"/Taupe, by Sunbrella): Lee Industries, 800/892-7150, leeindustries.com.
Home's Exterior
The Goodyear house is once again ready to receive dinner party guests.
Landscaping: Marders Nursery, 631/537-3700.
Sculptures: Eric Cohler private collection.
Sculpture Details
This playful sculpture of dancing rabbits is one of the many pieces featured throughout the expansive property.
Terrace Pathway
In the home's entertaining heyday, this back terrace, now leading up to the breakfast room, was a parking lot for staff and deliveries. Today, it is lined with topiaries, recovered artwork, and an original decorative brick wall.
Terrace Pathway
New glass-and-steel doors connect the kitchen and breakfast room to a terrace for alfresco dining.
Exterior Details
Manicured pathways line the property; one of many recovered pieces found buried in the overgrown gardens; an original decorative brick wall; vibrant sculptures designed by Cohler are installed throughout the yard.
Home's Exterior
A beautiful view of the house from the yard. Note the trees lining the circular dining room.
Goodyear & Company
Goodyear frequently hosted dinner cocktail parties with well-respected artists. Here he sits with friends Diego Rivera (left) and Frida Kahlo (center). It was through those art and MoMA connections that Goodyear and architect Edward Durell Stone became acquainted.
Designer Eric Cohler
Designer Eric Cohler sits in front of windows draped with Sunbrella sheers.
Drapery ("Shadow"/Snow); drapery band ("Shadow"/Charcoal): Sunbrella, 336/227-6211, sunbrella.com.
Flooring ("Century Farm Hand-Scraped Maple"/Peppercorn #GCM452PCLG, 5-inch plank): Armstrong World Industries Inc., 800/233-3823, armstrong.com.
Counter stool (#5573-51 with small nickel nails and black walnut finish); chair fabric ("Spinnaker"/Salt, by Sunbrella): Lee Industries, 800/892-7150, leeindustries.com.
More Design Ideas From Eric Cohler
See more inspirational design ideas from Eric Cohler. Take a look at our presentation of the Work of Eric Cohler.


text:
Product Description
The Artie mini shoulder bag in black nappa leather, is characterized by its clean lines and feminine silhouette. Gently-detailed with Jimmy Choo hardware the bag is finished with a unique strap. Sexy and modern, Artie is the perfect day bag for the modern women who is always on the go.
Nappa leather
Detachable leather shoulder strap and chain cross body strap
Zip fastening
Jimmy Choo engraved metal pull
Jimmy Choo embossed leather tag
Lockett stud details
Internal suede lining
1 large internal slip pocket
L 26 x H 21 x W 5cm
Made in Italy


text:
Tech Update
Laser-Alignment Tool Improves Press Operation
It combines a compact laser transmitter with a receiver and digital display. As the laser moves across the receiver in a vertical or horizontal direction, the display provides a reading of the motion accurate to 0.0001 in. The Microgage will operate over a distance of 100 ft. Several accessories allow for alignment of straightness, runout, parallelism and squareness, roll and web alignment, shaft and bore alignment, flatness measurement and more.
The unit operates on batteries and all components are machined of solid aluminum with a hard anodized coating for wear resistance. A sealed pushbutton keypad and large LCD display make the Microgage 2D simple to use. A serial and USB interface connect to a laptop or PC and link to spreadsheets for plotting and analyzing data for maintenance records, customer compliance and other uses. The system includes a compact carrying case.
Pinpoint Laser Systems: 978/532-8001; www.pinlaser.com
See also: Pinpoint Laser Systems
Related Enterprise Zones: Sensing/Electronics
Reader Comments
There are no comments posted at this time.


text:
Page 1
|1 of 12
This page
The Renaissance of Motor City I This is your Detroit and welcome to it You thought you knew it, how little did you know... Take another look around There's a whole new spirit happening in this town... This is your Detroit and welcome to it We're going to do it, we've only just begun of the Young Detroiters. a group sponsored by the Greater Detroit Chamber i->f Commerce The Renaissance Center — four 39-story office buildings poised like sentries around the central 73-story pillar of the Detroit Plaza hotel — looms on the banks of the Detroit River Detroit partner in charge Ray Spinola in his office in the 100 Tower of Renaissance Center. In the background, the Ambassador Bridge spans the Detroit River, linking Detroit with the Canadian city of Windsor. future, an enormous modern sculpture designed for working, for living, for entertainment — a city within a city. Few major cities are as closely identified with one industry — and dependent on that industry — as is Detroit with the automobile. On the other hand, the economic health of few cities can have such a direct and striking effect on the national economy as can that of Motor City. "There's a saying that when Detroit catches cold, the rest of the country has the sniffles," Ray Spinola, partner in charge of the DH&S office in Detroit, said, quoting an old adage. But if the rest of the country is uneasy and apprehensive about the energy crunch of 1979, much of Detroit reflects the long-range optimism of «•*****


text: Wallboard installer Brian Jones shows how he uses a panel lift to install ceilings singlehandedly. Rustic plaster and old beams complete the Old World look of the walls. Richard surveys what's new in the world of septic systems and installs a self-contained membrane bioreactor system in the basement. A granite and cobble border adorns the driveway. In the second half of the hour, on ASK THIS OLD HOUSE, general contractor Tom Silva helps a homeowner solve the mystery of her melted vinyl siding. Then, Tom, along with Kevin, Roger and Richard, asks "What is it?" Afterward, Kevin and a specialist perform a whole-house energy audit.


text:
by Sue Ann Ryback
Life is ultimately about relationships, and success in life often depends upon our ability to develop and maintain healthy relationships. This was one of the main points made by Rachel Simmons at a workshop on female aggression held March 17 at Springside School.
"Relationships are about having skills," Simmons said. "I like to call relationships the fourth "R" – reading, writing, arithmetic and relationships."
Simmons is the author of New York Times bestsellers "Odd Girl Out: The Hidden Culture of Aggression in Girls," and "The Curse of the Good Girl: Raising Authentic Girls with Courage and Confidence." A Rhodes Scholar and Vassar graduate, she has dedicated her life to developing strategies to address bullying and empower young women.
When girls are psychologically aggressive towards one another, it is often written off as a "rite of passage" or as "developmental," Simmons said. "If you don't call bullying what it is, girls learn or begin to believe that this behavior is normal."
Research indicates that most boys bully their acquaintances or strangers, and girls hurt their friends, Simmons said.
"When girls are hurt by their friends, and they don't learn to define the behavior as bullying, it becomes part of their definition of intimacy," she said.
Girls accept that it is normal for someone they love to hurt them, Simmons said, noting that not dealing with female aggression affects what women become as leaders.
Simmons discussed the three most common types of aggression girls engage in: social aggression, indirect aggression and relational aggression.
Social aggression is behavior that harms reputation, such as gossip and rumors. Indirect aggression would be anonymous or under pretense of friendship. An example of indirect aggression would be "You look fat in that shirt – just kidding!
In relational aggression, girls learn to use friendship as a weapon. For example, a young girl may say, "If you don't give me that I won't be your friend."
Simmons addressed the impact of social media and female aggression, pointing out that parents need to reassert their authority when it comes to social media.
"One of the most unfortunate myths about kids and technology is that kids are digital natives – parents are digital emigrants," Simmons said. "Technology is a privilege, not a right."
Parents must teach their children how to use technology safely, ethically and responsibly, she said. This means not using other people's passwords, not posting embarrassing photographs or other humiliating material and not misrepresenting yourself, Simmons said.
Simmons said that, unfortunately, teenagers believe that the more socially connected they are, the more socially secure they will be, and that one of the reasons girls are so obsessed with social media is that they are using social media to make them feel better about themselves.
"The same tools they are invoking to make themselves feel better are the same exact things that are making them insecure and paranoid, anxious and fearful," Simmons said. "If your kids like your technology policy, you are probably doing something wrong."
Simmons suggested that parents set time limits on social media and that there should be certain times when kids can't be "wired."
Here are a few of her suggestions for parents:
No phones in bed, during meals or homework.
Read the phone bill and find out when they are texting.
Know their child's Facebook password and check it randomly.
"This is where the parenting gets hard – this is where it matters," Simmons said. "Ultimately, what we really want to show girls is that "a good girl" is not someone who is nice all the time, but someone who has the courage to look at herself honestly and say I am sorry."
Eileen Burkart, parent of a seventh grader at Wissahickon Charter School, said she monitors her daughter's Facebook page. In the beginning, she confessed she wasn't sure about asking her daughter for her Facebook password, but in the end she listened to her gut.
"I don't check it all the time," Burkart said.
Julie Williams, a parent from Blue Bell said, "Parents have these intuitive thoughts – but you think I am not the native. I am the emigrant."
Patty Billock, who has a daughter at Springside, said Facebook was "scary."
"I had to be upfront about it," Billock said, referring to her daughter's Facebook page. "I want to be authentic. I think they [kids] try it on for size.
"The problem with being raised with the good girl image is that we expect our children to be nice to everyone. Instead, we should expect our children to be nice people."


text:
Hi Hungry Girl,
WOW! I just made the Dreamy Chocolate Peanut Butter Fudge I saw on your show -- amazing! Not only is it super-delicious, but it's also so simple to make. I was wondering, do you have some other no-fail recipes with four ingredients or less? I guess I'm looking for an Idiot's Guide to Hungry Girl Recipes. Thanks for all the advice and inspiration!
Make-It-Easy Melanie
Hi Melanie,
I'm glad you're enjoying the show and the fudge! And I completely understand the need for simple recipes. That's always been a goal of mine -- to create great-tasting, guilt-free recipes that anyone and everyone can make. Since some are easier to make than others, I'm sharing the absolute EASIEST ones with you. Here they are...
Check out all of the Hungry Girl "Hot Couples" (a.k.a. two-ingredient recipes). Whip up everything from filling breakfasts to no-guilt dinners by combining just two ingredients -- click for proof! Here are some holiday-inspired couples too.
Trios (my three-ingredient recipes) are another safe bet. These comfort-food trios are perfect for this time of year. Want more? Click here and here. That's a trio of trio sources for you. (You can also find seven chapters of trio recipes in Hungry Girl 300 Under 300!)
Parfait recipes are also great. Ours typically have very few ingredients, and there's not much work involved -- just layer and enjoy! Check out the latest HG parfaits.
Other easy recipes? Egg mugs! These microwave scrambles practically make themselves. Click here for the 411 on those.
There are also some super-easy recipes with more than four ingredients. No-cook recipes take just a little bit of prep and they're good to go -- here are the latest to come out of the HG kitchen. And here are some speedy recipes that you can make in five minutes or less. There's even an entire Hungry Girl episode devoted to under-five-minute recipes.
Now you've got lots of recipes to get you started. Best of luck (although you won't need it!). P.S. Check out the brand-new "Holiday" episode of Hungry Girl airing this Sunday (12/4) on Food Network, featuring a slew of seasonal no-fail recipes. You'll be ready to host your own holiday party in no time!
Dear HG,
I know spices and herbs are a great way to add flavor without fat, but I'm clueless when it comes to which I should buy and how I should use them. Please help me spice up my life!
Buh-Bye Bland
Hi Buh-Bye Bland,
Glad you asked. Spices and herbs are virtually calorie-free and they're flavor-packed. Basically they're miracle ingredients because they can add tons of taste to low-calorie items. It might take a while to figure out which ones you like best, but here's some info to get you started...
When it comes to dried spices, your basics are garlic powder and onion powder for savory foods and cinnamon and pumpkin pie spice for sweet stuff -- you really can't go wrong with these. Italian seasoning is another important one -- great for flavoring up tomato sauces. And if you like some heat, cayenne pepper and red pepper flakes are great. As for herbs, the dried kinds are great for customizing foods in a flash, but it's sometimes worth it to use the fresh stuff. Dill is great for dips, deli-style salads, and seafood dishes. You can also use it to liven up boring, fat-free ranch dressing. (Just chop some dill and stuff it inside the bottle.) Basil is an essential ingredient in Italian dishes, like this spaghetti & meatballs swap and this bruschetta-inspired salad. I LOVE the way basil smells... SO GOOD! Mint can be nice for beverages and desserts... although, truth be told, it's not a personal favorite. Parsley works well in Italian and Greek dishes, and it's a foolproof garnish for just about any food -- it'll make your meals look schmancy. (I personally do NOT like parsley, but most people like it so I recommend it often.) And when it comes to Mexican food, it's all about cilantro -- not everyone loves it, but I definitely do... especially in these Shrimp Cocktail Tacos and these Saucy-Q Chicken Soft Tacos.
For tons more about the most popular herbs and spices (including lots of HG recipes that feature them), click here. And if you're looking for more specific info about a particular spice or herb, check out The World's Healthiest Foods site. You'll find more than you'll ever need to know there. In the meantime, follow some of the spice-wielding HG recipes linked to above. It's the best way to become familiar with the flavors. Then have fun experimenting!
Today, November 30th, is the last day of Good Nutrition Month. So eat well today and go NUTS tomorrow. (Kidding about the second part!)
Have a question for Hungry Girl? Send it in! She answers new Qs each week (but cannot respond to emails personally).
SmartPoints® value not what you expected? Click here for more info on how the values are calculated, plus more FAQs about PointsPlus® and SmartPoints® values on our website.


text:
There's hardly an example of human activity that doesn't impact someone. A few activities are more susceptible to posing harm than others, but we also don't live in a riskless world. There's no greater example of risks that occur than those related to the recovery of natural resources. Mining and other extractive processes are always potentially hazardous and it is only sensible to assume that regulating these activities is appropriate. But arriving at a consensus on what constitutes reasonable is never easy.
Consider this tale of two cities, Longmont and Erie. Longmont, long considered by many to be a somewhat sleepy rural-oriented community not prone to citizens taking radical positions on issues, took a rather aggressive approach when dealing with the contemporary oil and gas drilling technique knowing as fracking. Erie, a much smaller community, has chosen to deal with the same fracking issue in a significantly more sensible way.
Both communities were confronted by angry citizens many of whom employed the tactics of various environmental extremists. But community leaders in both cities ultimately chose different paths in attempting to resolve similar compelling issues. Many of the mischief-makers in both cities were likely whipped into a frenzy by the largely discredited documentary entitled "Gaslands." The film, chuck full of distortions included a scene showing a Weld County homeowner setting fire to his tap water and blaming the incident on fracking. The problem is simply that the documentary's claim is entirely false. It has been debunked by so many that only diehard true believers still attempt to promote it as absolute proof of their frivolous claims.
Besides the firewater myth, hardcore fracking opponents cling to their unconfirmed claims that the process also causes a various physical ailments including headaches, nose bleeds, asthma attacks, and other ills. Just to top off the evils of fracking some believe it causes earthquakes. Many of the dissidents urge policy makers to employ what some refer to as the "precautionary principal." It basically suggests the best way to avoid any risk of any potential hazard is simply to sit on your hands and never leave home. If taken to its obvious extremes, no one would ever ride in a car, swim in a pool, or fly on a plane. For these folks, risk avoidance becomes a fanatic quality of life issue that elected officials must address precisely as the malcontents want.
There are reasonable solutions lurking in this dissonance and Erie leaders have chosen the most reasonable path. A variety of additional safety practices and new environmental quality standard were recently adopted in Erie employing a Memorandum of Understanding. Mayor Joe Wilson declared: "(despite) prolific misinformation, unfounded and exaggerated claims by political activists groups trying to create division and angst in the community, at the end of the day, Erie has been a leader in addressing concerns on all sides of this debate." In fact, many of the items addressed and codified in the MOU might serve as a new model for Colorado's Oil and Gas Conservation Commission according to Matt Lepore, COGCC's executive director. He also suggested the cooperative approach that Erie took is an important issue and "has caused heartburn" for many other Colorado communities including Boulder and now even Lafayette who just recently joined the choir. He hopes what Erie has accomplished can serve as a model for others who are trying to deal fairly with oil and gas drillers, property owners, and environmental activists alike. Community concerns do need to be considered and addressed.
Longmont, on the other hand has taken a rather belligerent approach having enacted a bunch of restrictive new rules and regulations. The city is being sued by the COGCC and that process is always expensive. Hopefully, cooler heads will emerge to resolve current disputes without wasting lots more taxpayer dollars.
Email: email@example.com.


text:
Print This Meeting
Update This Meeting
This form is to update an existing meeting. DO NOT use this form to inquire about a meeting or try to join the meeting. You can send an email to firstname.lastname@example.com to enquire about a meeting or contact the contact(s) below.
To join the meeting, simply show up at the meeting.
By submitting this request you certify that you are a contact, local meeting coordinator, or intergroup representative (i.e. someone that has knowledge of the meeting!)
When you enter a proper email address in the "Submitter's Email Address" box, and click the "submit" button, your information will be sent via email to our Fellowship Services worker who does the actual edit to the database. By filling in this form, you do not actually edit the database!
If you do not type a proper email, you will get an alert that you have input an improper email. Change your email address appropiately and resubmit.
After several tries, if you still are not able to submit your info, send an email to "firstname.lastname@example.com" stating the problem you are having and request the changes in the body of the email. Please give your meeting number when sending an email to "firstname.lastname@example.com". This will speed up the update process!
After clicking on submit button, you will receive a notification message that your edits have been sent to "firstname.lastname@example.com" Within several days you will receive notification from our Fellowship Services worker that your edits have been updated in the database. If you do not get this last message, then something went wrong and you should resubmit your data.
Meeting is located on the 2nd floor in Room 213 (all the way down the hall at the very end.)
If you see errors to this information please contact : firstname.lastname@example.com


text:
Barack Obama has certainly brought Americans together in unprecedented ways, but America's black and white racial divide still exists.
And every once in a while, an event happens that starkly reveals how just deep this racial divide remains.
The untimely death of Michael Jackson is such an event.
Last week, at a meeting of progressive Democrats in Southern California, I heard speaker after speaker bemoan the fact that Michael Jackson's death had taken over the cable news, shunting to the side what they believed to be obviously more significant topics – the revolt in Iran, the fight in Congress for new health care legislation, the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
I see similar comments from many of my politically progressive Facebook friends.
None of them seems remotely aware that their disdain for the wall-to-wall news coverage of Michael Jackson's death is a reflection of their own racial perspective – or that black people might view it differently.
For many, perhaps most, white people, Michael Jackson was, at best, a fading pop star and entertainer, someone whose music and persona they may have liked in their childhood but not now.
For black people, Michael Jackson was, and remains, a cultural figure of heroic, almost mythic, proportions, someone who changed not just music but the world, and who tirelessly worked for African and African-American causes and charities.
Today Michael Jackson will be honored and memorialized as a hero.
As a white American, I may not really get it.
But I get why I don't get it.
And for that reason, I give my respects today and I say:
Michael, Rest in Peace.


text:
Television does not pass the Sobriety Test 05 30 2016
Copyright 2016 Thomas Paul Murphy
Copyright 2016 Thomas Paul Murphy
I created this Newspaper to put forth a much needed point of view. I have talked to many who have worked for Milwaukee's dominant news source on the side, and they have even expressed interest in my point of view. The Pulitzer prize was founded after Pulitzer because he created a newspaper that exposed great wrongdoings. He went against the other established Newspapers with his Newspaper that exposed corruption. His newspaper became number one. World News Starts Here!


text:
The information contained in this publication is subject to change without notice. METROLIST, INC., DBA RECOLORADO MAKES NO WARRANTY OF ANY KIND WITH REGARD TO THIS MATERIAL, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. METROLIST, INC., DBA RECOLORADO SHALL NOT BE LIABLE FOR ERRORS CONTAINED HEREIN OR FOR ANY DAMAGES IN CONNECTION WITH THE FURNISHING, PERFORMANCE, OR USE OF THIS MATERIAL.
All real estate advertised herein is subject to the Federal Fair Housing Act and the Colorado Fair Housing Act, which Acts make it illegal to make or publish any advertisement that indicates any preference, limitation, or discrimination based on race, color, religion, sex, handicap, familial status, or national origin.
METROLIST, INC., DBA RECOLORADO will not knowingly accept any advertising for real estate that is in violation of the law. All persons are hereby informed that all dwellings advertised are available on an equal opportunity basis.
© 2020 METROLIST, INC., DBA RECOLORADO® – All Rights Reserved
6455 S. Yosemite St., Suite 500
Greenwood Village, CO 80111 USA
ALL RIGHTS RESERVED WORLDWIDE. No part of this publication may be reproduced, adapted, translated, stored in a retrieval system or transmitted in any form or by any means, electronic, mechanical, photocopying, recording, or otherwise, without the prior written permission of the publisher. The information contained herein including but not limited to all text, photographs, digital images, virtual tours, may be seeded and monitored for protection and tracking.


text:
View All 16 Colors
100% Cotton Fabric Checks Collection #5 12 KO 3476 FLN5002T B
- Details
- Use & Care
The 100% cotton fabric checks collection is made from the finest imported long staple Egyptian cotton. The long fibers of the high-quality cotton are valued for creating the softest strongest yarns for an incomparable look and feel to the fabric. The luxurious and machine washable fabric is versatile enough for both apparel and decor uses and has been sanforized for color fastness and minimal shrinkage.
100% Cotton fabric
45 Inches wide
Egyptian long staple cotton
100% Cotton fabric
45 Inches wide
Egyptian long staple cotton
This item will ship in 3-5 business days (This includes overnight and express shipping)


text:
Friday, March 30, 2012
Kale? No thanks!
The taste of raw kale after blended, to me, is horrible; even when mixed
with fruit. I thought it was something I was doing incorrectly, so I
blended the organic kale again by itself and the horrific level increase
to the point where, after taking the lid off of the blender to smell it,
the aroma burned my nostrils as well as my eyes. After drinking the
juice/smoothie, I feel a bit nauseous. However, eating raw organic kale does
taste far more pleasant than after blended its leaves.
I have only found one (1) instance of anyone telling the truth about how
bad kale tastes as a juice.
Is this normal for Kale to taste so horrible after blending/juicing.
Well, I am here to tell you that the first time I heard about anyone putting kale in a smoothie, I thought they were kidding or desperate for some way to include kale 'hidden' in their food because I could not imagine kale 'adding' something pleasant to the taste of a smoothie. And I am someone who does not like smoothies that are too sweet, which they all were in the very beginning of the smoothie craze, way back when. In fact, I am known for putting raw or frozen unsweetened cranberries in my smoothies to cut the natural sweetness of fruit or juices.
The first time I did put kale into a smoothie (I had to have my curiosity finally overcome my inclination that the combination would be just awful), I must confess right here for all to know that I was also overwhelmed by the 'kale effect', i.e. the nearly over-powering and rather unpleasant smell of kale, when I took the top off the blender. Perhaps my reaction is what the reader's comments referred to.
However, not one to throw food away, and still very curious, I poured the smoothie into a glass and let it sit a bit, which helped to diminish and even disperse the strong smell immensely. I even had the courage to taste the smoothie at that point and found that yes, I could definitely taste kale, but it was not overpowering or unpleasant, just very green. This was a long time ago, and now I just know that 1) I do not inhale deeply when taking the top off of my blender and 2) to wait a bit before drinking my kale smoothie.
Other tips I have found to help with this situation:
1) Use less kale
2) Use baby kale
3) Use lacinato kale (this variety must have a lower level of glucosinolates or contain some other compound that counteracts the known bitterness of glucosinolates)
4) Use lightly steamed and cooled kale (I have done this with plain, no oil added, unseasoned left-over kale, which does not happen very often)
What is likely going on here is related to the fact that chemicals and sensitivity to them works both ways. Plants contain bitter molecules to keep themselves from being eaten so they can fulfill their biological destiny, meaning not get chewed to bits by insects or other animals before they have reproduced (gone to seed). We detect bitter or other 'off' (think rancid) flavors to protect ourselves so that we also can fulfill our biological destiny to the species, i.e. reproduce!
Genes are involved with our taste sensitivities and it is now known that people with two copies of a certain gene will be 'super-tasters', i.e. more likely than others to not just dislike, but outright reject eating certain plants that contain bitter or astringent molecules, which are contained in all Brassica vegetables. An article describing the details of this phenomenon is here. Remember President Bush I and his famous dislike of broccoli? He was likely a 'super-taster' with two copies of these particular genes involved with tasting bitterness.
I hope this short response answers your question. I have tried to be as truthful as I know how, both professionally and personally.
Where kale is more than decoration on my plate and is still in my smoothies, too!
Diana Dyer, MS, RD
19 comments:
I heard a Dr. Lange, of Lange Eye Associates on a radio program this weekend. He stated that one should not eat raw kale, spinach or other brassica vegetables due to the oxalates which might cause kidney problems and that lightly steaming breaks down the fibers making them easier to digest and release other nutrients. Lutein was one he mentioned for eye health. Wonder your take on this. I know he is big on nutrition from foods rather than supplements for the most part.
- April 1, 2012 at 11:06 PM
- Diana Dyer said...
I know I sound like a 'broken record' but my recommendations are 'moderation' (for example, I never eat an entire bunch of kale myself in one sitting, neither raw, cooked, or juiced) and I always eat a kale a variety of ways (raw pieces in a salad, lightly steamed, roasted, stir-fried, raw/massaged, raw in a smoothie (you get the idea), plus I eat a wide variety of Brassica vegetables in any given week (often 5+ types, easily) so I am getting a wide variety of helpful molecules and those that might be somewhat troublesome, not going overboard on anything, good or bad! I am for variety and interest in my diet, not being 'stuck' on any one thing, even a good thing!
- April 2, 2012 at 8:50 PM
I'm surprised by that comment. I use curly kale in my smoothies, and have never had a strong smell or unpleasant taste. I use almond milk, and frozen bananas in my smoothie, and I find the only thing I notice is a very green smoothie. Of course everyone has different taste and smell reaction to foods. But I love kale in my smoothies.
- April 4, 2012 at 12:46 PM
- Diana Dyer said...
I love kale in my smoothies, too, and since I have been doing that (maybe 10 years or so), I feel it is 'missing' if I make one without kale. My best guess is that 'amount' is the culprit with this reader, irrespective of the variety or genetics. Since kale has become 'sexy', everyone seems to be trying to eat more and more of it. I refused to post a comment one reader made a while ago that included a link to her own You tube video because it promoted eating bags of kale daily. Yes, bags. This is all a flash-back to 15 years ago when soy became the darling of the media and people were trying to drink a quart of soy milk daily or eat a pound of tofu daily. No one does that in any food culture! Not only is it possible that extra large daily amounts of any one food is 'too much of a good thing", more importantly a diet that heavy on any one food 1) is likely missing out of some other important nutrients and 2) is surely BORING!!
Variety, variety, variety. :)
Off my soapbox now!
- April 4, 2012 at 1:31 PM
I love kale in my smoothies. I use lacinato kale with a combination of cooked thick cut oatmeal, blueberries and sometimes raspberries or almond milk. I add a few ice cubes and blend away. It is always delicious!
- April 9, 2012 at 10:45 AM
I can't imagine a smoothie without kale nowadays. My guess is that the reader probably used too much. For a person that doesn't already like kale, I can imagine it would be overwhelming to have more than a few stemmed leaves. I use 4-6 (or a good handful) usually without the stems.
I'm interested to hear more about why not to eat it raw.
- April 14, 2012 at 12:22 PM
If you pull the leaves off the stems (green and red curly kale), it really cuts the bitterness.
I love kale green smoothies.
- May 10, 2012 at 4:04 PM
- Diana Dyer said...
I love kale green smoothies and its a good thing that my dog loves the kale stems! Not much goes to waste in our kitchen. Thanks for that tip. :)
- May 10, 2012 at 4:54 PM
My brother is a juicer and he uses kale all of the time. I was thinking about getting into juicing although kale was not really on my juicing menu.
I figure if I want some green, I will get a shot of wheat grass and wash it down quickly with some other juice.
I figure if you want some thing healthy in your juicer, you can use some of the Dyer awesome garlic
- June 1, 2012 at 10:47 AM
Wow, am I glad someone else wrote about kale's bitter taste! I just started juicing and used the Mean Green recipes SICK, FAT AND NEARLY DEAD on my first juice, scrupulously following the recipe, which included 6 kale leaves. I have used kale in stir fries and was fine with it. A little nervous (I had invested in a Breville 850 and I really wanted this adventure in juicing to be successful), I took a cautious first sip. Fine! Quite nice, in fact. No problem-o. However ... I picked up a fine bag of organic kale, biiiig leaves, lotsa stem and carried it proudly home to juice this week end. Same recipe, but maybe, just maybe, I got carried away with the amount of kale and I left the stem. Awk! Ergh! Slammed across the room with that bitter kale after taste, so much so I grabbed a slice of Ancient Grain spelt and retired to my bedroom to lie down. Nauseous? Oh, yeah! This morning, I tried again and darn if I didn't leave the stems on ... is that the issue? The d**m stems? Again, but not so bad, was that evolutionary reaction to bitterness. What's a juicing gale to do? Cut the stems? Clueless in Missouri.
- June 17, 2012 at 11:57 AM
I too bought a juicer after seeing FAT SICK AND NEARLY DEAD and the horrible taste of kale is exactly how I ended up on this website. I started with the "green" juice recipes as they were written but found them impossible to drink...the taste was so aweful. Until recently, I was juicing only 2 leaves (destemed) in any recipe calling for kale, just so that I could actually drink the juice. But then I discovered organic baby kale. I bought a ginormous bag of it at Costco last week hoping that it would taste better than the full grown stuff in my juice. Not only does it taste better but it actually tastes GOOD! Now, I am the furthiest thing from a Nutritionist that you will ever meet but surely, 2 great big handfuls of baby kale have to be just as good or better for you than 2 leaves of the grownup stuff...doesn't it?
- July 20, 2012 at 8:34 AM
- Diana Dyer said...
Glad you found baby kale and found it tasty in your juices. Buying kale from a local organic farmer is another step to try. I have one farmer I buy my kale from (when I don't have my own to harvest) who just has the sweetest kale. It is young, tender, and was picked that morning. It is beyond delicious in smoothies or right out of the bag on the way home!
- July 20, 2012 at 9:29 AM
- Soxx said...
I love Kale and eat bags and bags of it with me and my girls. If you to make i less bitter in the smoothie add lemon juice....it neutralizes the bitterness.
patty Maizels
- November 1, 2012 at 7:34 PM
I have dinosaur kale that's a year old and now the stalks are at eye-level! I've been harvesting individual leaves all year. The last few months there's a very cabbage-y odor to them that I hadn't noticed before. Is this cause to pull the stalks and replant? Or can I keep harvesting as long as the leaves look good (albiet stinky)?
- November 29, 2012 at 5:19 PM
My yogi pal gave me a wonderful green smoothie recipe. Try it, even kiddos love it!
Frozen pineapple chunks
Coconut water
Ground flax seed
Chia seed
Blend, once ingredients are pretty well blended add your kale (as much as you like, I like mine very green). Add agave syrup if you have a sweeter side. Enjoy!!
- January 24, 2013 at 12:46 AM
I have never eaten raw kale and today for the first time, I picked some out of my garden and cooked it because I eat kale like one would eat collard greens and sometimes, I mix kale, collards, and cabbage together and cook, um yum, lol. anyway it was very bitter which led me to believe that eating kale this time of year is what cause the bitterness because when I eat it during the early fall months, it is not bitter and it's delicious.
- February 21, 2013 at 9:32 PM
- Beja {Howdy-Honey.com} said...
I'm so glad that Anonymous shared about the organic baby kale from Costco because I just bought some yesterday hoping it would taste better in the Mean Green Recipe!
HOORAY! And I didn't know about the stems being bitter.
Thanks for all this great info!
- April 15, 2013 at 11:14 AM
Ive been green juicing for about 6 months now and loving it. However I started to up the kale amount I was juicing. This whole last 2 weeks Ive been juicing roughly 1 large bunch of kale or more daily. I do mix other vegetables and a fruit or two in also. But now my energy is starting to lag and Ive found myself even taking daily naps, not that naps are bad mind you, I just never needed them before. My stomach is also feeling the effects with several daily restroom visits. I do believe moderation in all thing is key. Ive also found through research that cruciferous vegetables can be bad for thyroid function when too much is consumed raw. So I will be cutting back to only juicing 3 or 4 kale leaves and blanch/steam more in my daily diet. We are all different and should always seek to find our personal balance. Being properly informed helps too. Ive always juiced the stems too but lemon does truly cut the green flavor, I do remove them for cooking though. Also frost brings the sweetness/sugar out in certain plants as to explain the better tasting adult kale in fall/winter.
- June 5, 2013 at 12:03 PM
- Unknown said...
I don't have a problem with kale in my smoothies but I do have a problem with frozen, thawed kale. It's horrible. I read that you can freeze it and use it so they must of meant use it in it's frozen state. Thawed then used was definitely not tasty.
- May 11, 2015 at 7:25 PM