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jake_swivel wrote:You don't want to play CP3 because the best way for a mid market team to lock down talent is through the draft. You hope he raises his value while another team gets desperate and then you sell off assets for picks and young players.
Rolling with an above average player like Paul (and good role players like Galli and Adams) cripples your ability to do that.
Also, I'd take New Orleans roster and assets over OKCs for sure.
I would agree that Nola's assets are more valuable than OKC's right now. But Nola's clock is ticking already and the GM just got there. The Thunder just traded 2 super stars and got a very nice asset back in SGA.
For Nola their big question is can Ingram continue to play ball w/ the blood clots (this took Chris Bosh off the court). If Ingram can't continue to play that would be a huge blow to their assets. His contract is coming up and that will be very interesting to see.
When you look at assets you have to look at the best one. Zion is the best asset. He's a top 10 asset in the league right now, if not higher.
Now if you told me in 2 years the Thunder are in a better spot than Nola I wouldn't be surprised but I also wouldn't bet on it. The Thunder are in the long game. It's gonna take them 5 years to be legit title contenders again. But, it will be a fun ride.
You don't have to suck to hit the lottery any more. I wouldn't put too much effort to be the worst team in the league rn. Let's see how these ping pong balls start to fall.


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Addressing a drinking water concern
The village of 'Kurubara Karenhalli' within the limits of Ramanagar district depicts a setting of transition from the mud thatched cottages to terraced houses in equal numbers. While agriculture is still one of the primary occupations for the 225* families residing, a large working population also are employed in nearby towns. A perennial problem faced by the village folks was availability of good drinking water. The economically backward had to entirely depend on water from natural springs for cooking and drinking needs. Addressing the concern in collaboration with 'Bidadi Industries Association (BIA)' and local stakeholders, BECHEM India has sponsored the RO drinking water unit for the benefit of the village folk.

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Goodmorning, dear friends! We asked you yesterday to guess what this appetizer is made of on our facebook page and instagram. I admit that it is not appealing to the eye and looks like we have planted sage in a small pot with soil but the truth is that it is a really tasteful pate! It is made of mushrooms and brazilian nuts! A healthy and special appetizer that is a crowd pleaser!
Shooting this recipe was not an easy thing, it happened under funny circumstances! You see we are renovating our house and the day I made this I had the plumber in the house changing pipes in the bathroom…His son asked me politely while I was shooting: «Photography is your hobby, right?» Haha! No, foodblogging is my hobby, dear! Anyway, there is a lot of work that has to be done and it is hard to develop a recipe, cook it and shoot it under these peculiar circumastances. I have all kinds of technicians in the house every day, so it is tough…But nevertheless I will do my best cause I love foodblogging!
Take care and have a lovely week everyone!
Ingredients (yields 2 cups):
8 portobello mushrooms, sliced
2 small onions, finely chopped
2 garlic cloves, minced
1/2 cup brazilian nuts or walnuts/ almonds, finely ground
3 Tbsp olive oil
2 Tbsp lemon juice
3 big fresh sage leaves
1 Tbsp dried peppermint
salt and pepper
In a big non sticking pan cook mushrooms, onin, garlic on medium heat until soft and all liquid is evaporated. Before removing from heat add olive oil, sage, peppermint and season with salt and pepper. Stir well. Allow to cool. In a blender pulse mushrooms until they form a paste. Add nuts and lemon juice. Pulse again until smooth. Add more lemon juice if you like it sour. Serve in two bowls. It pairs well with good quality bread, rysks, grissini. Enjoy!


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For many people, the smell of bacon frying in a pan is pure heaven. Bacon is eaten with breakfast meals and as an ingredient in salads, but there is concern that its high fat and sodium content is not healthy. Many companies have gotten the word, and now offer turkey bacon, a lower sodium, lower fat alternative to pork bacon. Several companies now sell turkey bacon. While turkey bacon is not considered an overall healthy food, it stacks up a bit better in the numbers game compared to pork bacon.
While turkey bacon definitely contains less fat and sodium than regular pork bacon, this does not mean it is a healthy food. It is a bit healthier, but both types of bacon are processed meats that are cured with sodium nitrate. A study performed by the American Institute for Cancer Research clearly showed that regularly eating processed meats containing sodium nitrates, including turkey bacon and regular bacon, increases the risk of developing certain cancers. Turkey bacon and regular bacon are best enjoyed occasionally, and should not be part of your everyday diet.
Calories and Protein
The serving size listed for turkey bacon and regular bacon is one piece, but this is a bit deceiving. When cooked, an ounce of turkey bacon is still an ounce, but regular bacon loses about half its weight during cooking. One slice of cooked pork bacon, weighing 8 g, contains 42 calories, while one slice of turkey bacon, at 14 g, contains 25 calories. Most people have more than one slice of bacon at a time. This means a typical side of three pieces of pork bacon has 126 calories and turkey bacon has 75 calories. Turkey bacon and regular bacon both contain protein. There are 2 g of protein per slice in turkey bacon, and 3 g per slice in regular bacon.
A slice of turkey bacon has 1.5 g total fat, of which 0.5 g is saturated fat. This means three pieces have 4.5 g total fat and 1.5 g saturated fat. One piece or regular bacon has 3 g total fat, with 1 g saturated fat, meaning three pieces contain 9 g total fat with 3 g saturated fat. The American Heart Association recommends limiting your daily intake of fats to 25 to 35 percent of total calories, and saturated fats to less than 7 percent. Ingesting a lot of saturated fat increases the risk of developing heart attack and stroke.
Regular bacon has 192 mg of sodium per slice; three slices contain 576 mg sodium. Turkey bacon has a bit less sodium, with 135 mg per slice, which adds up to 405 mg sodium for three pieces. Sodium is an essential nutrient that must be obtained through the diet, as it is not manufactured by the body. A healthy adult should eat no more than 2,300 mg of sodium a day. If you have heart disease, you should limit your sodium intake to less than 1,500 mg a day.
Is This an Emergency?
- American Institute for Cancer Research: Statement from the American Institute for Cancer Research Clarifying the Processed Meat-Cancer Link; 2008
- Center for Science in the Public Interest: Lower Fat Hot Dogs, Bacon and Sausage; Jayne Hurley & Bonnie Liebman; 1998
- MyFitnessPal: Pork Bacon, Cured, Pan-Fried
- Butterball: Turkey Bacon
- American Heart Association: Know Your Fats; 2011
- Penn Medicine: Sodium in Diet


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Jane Bavineau
Jane Bavineau has nearly 30 years of experience in the field of gerontology and is Vice President of the Sheltering Arms Senior Services Division of BakerRipley. A social worker, Bavineau started her professional career in Houston in 1979 as the Intake Worker for Sheltering Arms. She has held more than nine different positions within the organization since that time, and been a vice president for the past 15 years.
During Bavineau's tenure with Sheltering Arms Senior Services, she founded and served as the executive director of Care for Elders, a local partnership of more than 80 organizations dedicated to improving the care and services provided to older adults and family caregivers in Houston and Harris County. She also served as the project director for two national demonstration projects, and in 2007, was selected as one of 10 Practice Change Fellows in the country because of a project she envisioned for improving the health of older adults with congestive heart failure.
Bavineau has been recognized for her commitment to improving the lives of older adults. In 2004 she was named Social Worker of the Year by the local chapter of the National Association of Social Workers, and in 2006 she received the Advocate of the Year Award from the University of Texas Health Science Center School of Nursing. Bavineau is a member of 15 city, county, and state-level councils dedicated to improving the lives of senior adults.


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Little Mix are currently on course to gain their first number one single.
The girl group managed to sell more than 68,000 downloads of their X Factor winner's single 'Cannonball' within 24 hours of it being available to buy, reports Music Week.
The huge sales puts them 38,000 copies ahead of their nearest rivals, which are currently Coldplay's 'Paradise' and Leona Lewis's 'Hurt'.
The first-day sales are significantly lower than 2010 X Factor winner Matt Cardle's single 'When We Collide', which nabbed the Christmas top spot last year.
However, this year's X Factor winner's single has been unusually released two weeks ahead of the Christmas number one song being announced on December 25.
This means Little Mix will have to retain the pole position on the chart for two weeks in order to become the 2011 Christmas number one.
Meanwhile, Damien Rice's original version of 'Cannonball' is on course for a chart return and is currently hovering just outside of the top ten.
The official midweek chart will be announced tomorrow (December 14) at 4pm.
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JetScan® MPS 4200 multi-pocket currency sorter
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A weight loss diet that's very easy to follow and provides results quickly? That's exactly what the Zone diet is. It aims to accelerate weight loss by altering hormonal levels. So if you desire to drop those extra pounds, the Zone diet plan is definitely worth a shot!
The Zone diet was proposed by Dr. Sears and was released in the form of a book. Unlike other diet plans for weight loss, it does not cut out all carbs or fats from a person's diet, but gradually trims them down. This helps the person following this diet plan to lose weight slowly, yet steadily, without getting tired of the restrictions imposed by the diet. This ensures that the dieter is not pushed to give up the diet plan completely.
An Introduction To The Zone Diet
Here is all the information you need about the basic working of the Zone diet.
How The Diet Was Created
Dr. Sears' search for a healthy diet was prompted by his father's sudden death due to a heart attack at the age of 53. As he began to think about the causes and likelihood of early death in a person, he began to carry out a detailed study on the role of fats in the development of heart disease. After a 20-year-long study, he arrived at the conclusion that heart disease can be prevented by deterring the production of eicosanoids. This discovery led him to come up with the Zone diet.
Dr. Sears promoted the Zone diet in his book Enter The Zone, which was published in the year 1995. Although designed primarily for weight loss, the Zone diet is also considered beneficial for preventing heart disease, diabetes, and cancer, and for improving mental performance.
The Principles Of The Zone Diet
The Zone diet revolves around controlling hormonal imbalances, with the intention of controlling weight gain, which is responsible for heart disease. Individuals following this diet plan are required to consume protein, carbohydrates, and fats in the ratio of 40 : 30 : 30.
The ultimate goal of this diet plan is to reduce body fat percentage in both men and women. The ideal body fat percentage for men is 15 percent and for women, it is around 22 percent.
The Zone Diet – Foods To Include
If you take up the Zone diet plan, you must consume protein-rich foods, either from animal or plant sources. Ensure that the protein comes from low-fat sources such as soy, chicken, and legumes. Also add monounsaturated fats to your meal plan, in the form of canola oil, avocados, or olive oil.
Dr. Sears recommends the intake of two fatty acids that are needed for the manufacturing of "good" eicosanoids. These are GLA and EPA. GLA (Gamma Linolenic Acid) is found in foods such as evening primrose oil, borage oil, and oatmeal, while EPA (Eicosa Pentaenoic Acid) is present in fish.
The Zone Diet – Foods To Avoid
The Zone diet recommends staying away from foods that contain refined carbohydrates and simple sugars, such as those found in foods like candy, soda, desserts, and white flour products.
Restrict the intake of fruits and vegetables that have high glycemic indices, or forgo them completely. Also stop the consumption of egg yolk and organ meats, as they favor the manufacturing of harmful eicosanoids.
Now that you know what the Zone diet involves, you might want to join the likes of stunning celebrities like Jennifer Aniston, Brad Pitt, and Madonna by trying out this effective diet for weight loss.


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FamilySearch offerings do not today allow a user to annotate or correct an error in the record transcription, nor is there currently a means for anyone internally to do this for the user.
We clearly understand the need, it is on our roadmaps and drawing boards and a significant amount of time is being invested to design, test and build such a capability. No expected date has been announced.
A few thoughts:
Transcription (indexing) errors happen for a number of reasons and in some cases are pretty much unavoidable no matter how good the software or our eyes are today. These errors are found in every record collection and are introduced by every indexing system out there. Here's a few reasons:
1) There may be a mismatch between the language of the record and the indexer's knowledge causing diacritics to be missed or combined characters to be misinterpreted
2) The handwriting may be nearly incomprehensible, nearly being the operative word, and the transcription is attempted but transcribed wrong
3) The census taker may have written down what he heard rather than clarify the name's spelling
4) The office census worker who transcribed into the official record what the door to door census taker wrote may have introduced spelling errors (they had to read the guy's crazy handwriting too).
5) The variant spelling may actually have been used by the new immigrant for a while after they arrived in the country because that is what some employer or immigration worker wrote down.
6) any number of others
To minimize the risk of additional errors being introduced into the records during indexing a redundant indexing with arbitration system has been devised. Each record is key twice by 2 different indexers. Entered data that mismatches between the two is sent to a third indexer that has been designated as an arbiter based on skill to make the final call. Statistical analysis has shown that this process results in very low novel error rates. Unfortunately nothing can programmatically address errors written into the record around the time of creation.
When a patron finds their ancestor and knows that a name is incorrect they logically want to correct it so that it can be properly searched, found and recorded by those who come after.
The FamilySearch system does not currently allow a user to make corrections or annotations on a record. Nor does it provide a way for a user to submit these errors so that someone internally can make the correction. This user need, however, is well understood and a significant amount of time is being invested in mapping out a system that would allow user corrections/annotation to a record. We cannot yet announce a date when such a feature will be available, but it is on the roadmaps and drawing boards.
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Thoughts on Correcting Errors in the Records
Robert Kehrer (Official Rep) October 22, 2010 10:18
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The powers that be are not going to answer these questions.... Who chooses the arbitrators? What are their qualifications? Recently I was frustrated to find, after long searching, the death certificate for an ancestor. The front of the document was online, but the obverse side had not been scanned. Of course I wrote to the county to ask for the information and hope it will come soon. {The person died far from where I had been previously searching.} This is such a blip in this wonderful project.
What good is indexing, if someone further up the line, these mysterious arbitrators, have the final say and cannot be reached or challenged? All we are asking is a little "opinion" line where we can clarify or question data posted. I keep a list and so far I have found 116 items where there are obvious errors, not even judgment calls on spelling in old handwriting. Sometimes the information is unfindable as we use the excellent search capabilities, because of these errors. The hoped-for comment/corrections option would be included in searches and help us.
Look at the admin message at the top of this thread. Dated two years ago. I am afraid there is never going to be an option for users to add comments.
I don't think we could ever comment the many errors in the IGI, which was on line for years. It never occurred to me to do it, as these were not original records. One can't be bothered to try and correct the many fanciful offerings on line.
But when an official document is on the screen, and the indexer has misinterpreted or otherwise changed the data in front of us, there must be the option to comment, for the benefit of others.. Please. This is a huge flaw in an amazing, beneficial-to-all project.
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adding corrections to the indexing would be a very good thing... i see a lot of mistakes that mislead people because of the interpetation of the spelling that is not printed but scrawled ..
Since we cannot correct the inaccurate information I won't waste my time here.
I have called umpteen times on this matter, and I have been doing Michigan State Deaths and talked as I said, They came back with a reply. ( why worry as they won't worry about your name (Joe Worrell) when it is finally done, but I WILL... and it bothers me as a former Teacher, student, and a human to know that my ancestor(s) line has so many variations. For example if you google and bring up Cities in Michigan, as I do every morning. I have found several variations to the same name ex. Blumfield, and then Bloomfield, (and these are not duplicates as some counties has a Bloomfield . Reguardless, they need to check and make sure that it is correct, and if it says county accept the word county, leaving it that way, not omitting township, city, unicorporated, etc. as that is the document as it is... typing in or omitting it as they think should be there. LEAVE IT THE WAY IT SHOULD BE.
Another is the name a child is given, and we are told to type it and leave it the way the documents is written... Yet so many arbitrators take off the word (BABY) in front of Boy or Girl. say for example, my name of my child was *** Baby Girl Worrell***, they come back and show Girl Worrell... WHICH IS INCORRECT. and then I had done one which said (Angel Baby Girl Thompson) they need to leave all of the words as it is written, not taking out BABY GIRL... As that is what they named the child. Only parents, or the child, as an adult have the right to go and get their name changed through the courts, etc., then that record(s) will reflect the changes. not someone else in arbitration to make the decision. Just like when my wife married me, she had to change to the name of WORRELL, omitting her former married name, but still has her naiden name HERBERT.. So her name is now Maria Herbert Worrell, as it was changed when marriage took place. Removing her former married name.. (Smith)... she even had to get a new Social security card with updated changes of her name....
In fact, I have never keep records of the changes as you mentioned, but, I am from now on, so I know I did it correctly. Yes I make mistakes, as we are all human, but to continue doing this is not be taught correct personal or gospel principles.
I feel that there should be a name, or email, or number to discuss and see how they came up with that name or date(s)...
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I have seen my grandfather's name as A.T., as Allen, and as Albert so how do you decide which version to use? Maybe that is why he went by A.T. a lot.
Don't depend on just one record, ever; "triangulate" by assessing and evaluating as many records on this man as you can find.
I agree with you completely, and I have raised this issue a number of times, always receiving a reply that amounts to "too bad, so sad, but it can't be done easily right now."
My response to all is that, if ancestry.com can do it, then FamilySearch, with all of its resources, can certainly do it.
What I don't understand is that these are not just names and numbers we are dealing with here; they are people. Mostly deceased, to be sure, but people nonetheless. Every name is part of someone's family and someone's friend. Those names need to be given to utmost care possible, and need to be as accurate as possible. An inability to be able to even add a (supported) correction is, in my view, caused my an ignorance of the implications of not being able to find an ancestor.
Just to resharpen my sword in this argument:
My family name is Rethard. It is over 1000 years old in that same form, but it is quite rare (less than 25 on the planet that I can find. All Rethards in this country descend from a single ancestor who came here between 1791 and 1810. I have personally spoken with most of the living Rethards in this country.
Which brings me to the point: In 1940, there were several Rethards residing in or near Centralia, IL: Jacob Washington Rethard and his family, Arthur Rethard and his family, and Malena (Forth) Rethard and her son. When the 1940 census images were released, I found Jacob's family (entered as John Ruthard, not Jacob Rethard) because I had the address and Malena's family strictly by chance. I did not locate Arthur's family due to the lack of an address.
Once ancestry brought the records up, I looked again, but found NO Rethards listed in Centralia. Going back to the original images, I relocated Jacob's family again by address. The name was entered as "Ruthars." Malena's family appears correctly.
I still can't find Jacob in the FamilySearch version of the census; still no sign of Arthur.......and Malena's family has disappeared!
Clearly, there's a serious problem here. Without a way to tie the original images back to the interpreted records (as with ancestry.com), and without a way to correct the records when good reason is found (I think a family member's say so is good enough), there is a very serious problem.
The solution to this - an other FS issues - is really quite simple. The people responsible need only two skills: (1) an real understanding of how to design computerized systems; and (2) an deep understanding - and commitment to the work this data represents.
I agree.... It seems that FS has screwed up my Familly Tree also. Not just in one family name, but in THREE! Starting with my Mother's family, then my Father's family... and now I find that it has messed up names in my Grand-Mother's family. One error could probably be forgiven... but there are way too many errors in this program. ; When it reaches to Family Tree Maker, and Ancestry.com, it is covering a lot of historic information and errors that follow our ancestry from now on! For some of us, a lot of work has gone into these records! And for our decendants who in the future want to do GENEOLOGY research on our family history, ??????
This is un-excusable, and the attitude of what replies are to these complaints is atrocious! I think this whole program should be shut down!!!! Family Search used to be one of my favorite Geneology sites, and very helpful.... Until they started this "INDEXING" program that we have no way of correcting!!!!!
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Every Tom, Dick and Harry and Shirley IS allowed to make changes to FamilyTree, many of which I've had to undo because they are now allowed to change or even delete verified correct data tha I have entered. It seems reasonable to allow us to correct (by addition of an alternative, as in ancestry.com) bad infor from indexing.
I tend to agree with all the comments but I don't know. In my case the original is wrong! My mother and her older brother, whom are both still alive at this writing, have the last name (in the record) Rollingson instead of Rawlinson. Other than teasing my older brother about not spelling his name right all these years (Rawlin), it doesn't have any value to anyone! In fact my biggest concern is that someone will waste time doing the LDS ordinances for a non-existing family only yo further confusing future generations-all because the church did not devise dn annotation system and are not "man enough to own up to it,,,,
I can understand the frustration Patricia Casey is speaking of. Makes you not want to contribute to the file if they are going to corrupt it!
I agree with all of the responses and even more perplexing is why there are so many entries with outrageous dating, i.e., mothers born AFTER their children,sometimes up to 200 years! And it goes on and on. You have to study all FS info and ancestry 'leaves' to make sure you're not transferring such information and sometimes the info gets added anyway mysteriously as it shows up as added when I didn't even add that file. Something somewhere in the programs adds info automatically with many errors included so I have to check periodically to see what changes have occurred after I have added records! I'm so glad that so much is being added daily digitally but it's of no use if it's not correct! I also agree it should not be such an impossible task to program the ability to make corrections. Why would that take more than a programmer who is skillful in databases? If someone could explain this to me I would appreciate it.
"Why would that take more than a programmer who is skillful in databases?" In large environments dealing with large databases there are many different technology specialists. Even aside from programmers and database specialists there are data architects who look for issues in the data and work backwards to solve those problems.
So far I have not been able to identify such roles being employed on the 'back side'. Thus the results we've seen.
You would think that entities as large as FS and Ancestry would have these professionals in house.
BTW indexers do the best they can considering the poor quality of the documents they are transcribing which also explains the mixed results with double and triple checking (as I don't think ANYONE can read the documents in question!) If the document has an incorrect but legible name the indexer must copy what is actually on the document and cannot be blamed for this. An even bigger problem I think is the information entered by family historians themselves. I won't even use ANY pedigree information in FS at all. If you look at a large part of the entries you will see errors, impossible dates, spellings etc originate with the family historians. Add to that the historical family members who were semi-illiterate themselves and entered THEIR OWN surnames in many different ways probably phonetically plus vital registrars, immigration officials, parish registers, land deeds and almost anyone who was filling out a document apparently did the same. I think this is also the only explanation for siblings spelling their names in different variations. What I do in these instances which cannot be corrected and no one can be blamed is to put my current modern spelling of my ancestor in brackets to confirm that this proven document is attached correctly to my history.
It does all get very frustrating but at least I think if we accept that the above is out of our hands and cannot be changed or corrected we can just get on with our research and do the best we can. BTW Ancestry.com has almost as many errors as FS so it's up to us to watch out for these and to double check our research and/or look for proven official sources.
It is very kind of you to stand up for the indexers. I know there are some who are excellelent and concientous "transcribers"/Indexers. However, not all are that aware of errors they make. Indexing became a sort of "contest" at one point here. A "HURRY UP" to get indexing done for the 1940 Census when it was released! I haven't even gone through all of my relatives/ancestors for that release yet. It got too frustrating. Yes...some writing in original census reports is difficult to read, but in the case of errors found in my experiences, more than a equal ammount were very ledgible and still there were very serious mistakes in transcribing! Totally unacceptable name mistakes... just guesses when a little study of those names would show the transcriber the true information!!!! Do they realize that their transciptions change our very line of research and family history if they make errors? I realize that all "transcribers" ie: Indexers are vollunteers.... but if they were paid employees making these errors, perhaps they would be reviewed and at least made aware of the errors they made... perhaps many would have been replaced. Perhaps they would have been made aware the importance of what they were Indexing.
Just saying..............................
Patricia, I agree completely that if a document is legible to you then it should have been legible to the at least 2 indexers and an arbitrator. These are the most annoying and frustrating things to find. Luckily you are double checking. It makes me crazy also to find a mother younger than her children and countless other errors made by ????? Who can possibly make these kinds of mistakes? When you look at pedigrees it seems to be family members themselves. Drives me crazy whomever is so careless. Don't see how this happens and not occasionally but in very high numbers! As my father used to say when even 2nd or 3rd cousins had married "I'm my own grandpa!" and in the case of many of THESE entries they sometimes create that exact scenario! So just in the case of indexers who cannot transcribe LEGIBLE entries the 'disease' is rampant throughout genealogy! It makes our work as family historians almost impossible in many cases! Not only that but I have quit using FS at all except for documents and have to double check many, many 'leaves' in ancestry.com as the errors are there by the thousands also. Grrrr...
PS: I agree with your statements regarding the careless indexers. Why are they even doing this at all? If you don't do your best and doing more harm than good why would you volunteer in the first place and waste many, many hours of time for yourself and the people who were supposed to benefit from this work? My defense was directed to those who transcribe 'errors' that are not their errors but are errors on the documents themselves and thus have to be transcribed exactly as seen.
I have used Ancestry.com; Familysearch.org and now fold3 and have gotten nothing but good results. Having been a genealogist for 40 years I appreciate the ancestry.com family of historical information and those who do the transcribing. I have found no errors that I could not resolve with just a bit of my own extra research.
Please be thankful for those people who are willing to donate their time and energy to give us this information. With out them there would not be a place to start your/our research.
Thank you Ancestry
June, I am so happy that you found no errors in your family tree over the years. I too found that to be true in earlier years and research. Also glad that your research was able to resolve any errors you did find. Were you able to change the MIS-information? Those of us with the most complaints have not been able to correct those errors... and recognise the info as errors...but we are thinking of future generations who may want to find their ancestors and hit dead ends because someone today made a SERIOUS mistake in transcribing. I have found my ancestors back to the late 1400"s and had not recognised any mistakes in all that research over the years.... until the last couple of years when the Indexing really got started. Actual documents that I have printed out from this very web site just recent years... do not match up with the transcribed, indexed information of that same document in current indexes on FS!
Patricia- I find your criticism of the transcribers particularly harsh after reading your posts because you do not proofread your posts. Either you have a typing problem or a spelling problem -you see, none of us are perfect. I have found several mistakes and I know it is a terrible problem but I also know how incredibly difficult it is to find volunteers. It doesn't get any easier to find volunteers when they have to listen to all of the criticism and they don't feel like their efforts are appreciated. Let us practice a little more understanding toward one another and press toward the real problem and that is the design of the site that doesn't allow for comments or annotations to the records. -Shari C
One other comment: try using other sites that are available including cemeteries and old obituary listings. There are sites where you can exchange information also.
You also needed to remember that in early times those doing the records and censuses were not well educated and often guessed at spellings. In German families the children were called by their middle names and this can make things confusing when you have a record for Johann Jacob //// who was put in the census as Jacob /////. My last name Wittmer is also listed as Whitmore, Widnar and Whitmer because that is the way the writer heard them said and I had to do the research myself to find the correct family members. That us what family history is about, searching for your family, yourself.
The issue is not whether indexers and arbitrators are heroes or villains. There is no question that old records written in an unfamiliar hand, interpreting various ethnic names and sometimes in less than pristine condition are difficult to navigate. The issue is that there are literally thousands of people still alive that know the correct answer and are overwhelmingly eager to set the record straight for the rest of us and for future generations. To ignore this marvelous resource for the want of programming is an absolute disgrace. This project should assume equal importance with adding new records. The records to be added will be around for years to come. Those of us who know the right answer won't.
Amen! We should all be more tolerant of those who have donated there time both to create the data sources and transcribe them.
We know that many of the people taking census information in centuries past were not very literate and many of those who were providing the information were not able to read or write or even spell their own names.
This means we must stop assuming correctness and, instead, become detectives and interpreters who make our own judgements/guesses as to the final selection of the correctness of the data.
I like the way Archives.com allows tree-makers to add notes to each entry on the tree. Every birth, marriage, death or census record can have its own comments that can be used to explain the differences or mistakes that become evident while searching the evidence. By using these notes, it helps one to organize the confusing findings, make sense of them and keep track of where evidence was found.
Every family tree should have such a way to keep notes for these purposes.
Have fun growing your trees, everybody!
To Leon Morse: Amen. Amen. I don't care how the error occurred. Sometimes the original is wrong; sometimes the transcription is wrong; sometimes it's both. I just want to be able to offer an alternate spelling, with my reasons, so that others can find the record.
Ancestry has had this capability for years, and it works great. There are plenty of transcription errors at Ancestry too, but once an addendum (not a correction) has been made, a user can find it under either spelling. If four alternates are submitted, the user can find it under any one of them. I cannot understand why FamilySearch refuses to provide users with the ability to add alternate information.
May I add my echo for being able to add alternate readings. I located a census record in Ontario, because I gave up on my name and searched for a known neighbor. My name was spelled by the indexer in a way that it would be nearly impossible to locate.
Adding alternate information is a boon for this type of an indexing error!!
Shirley G
Indexing is to make research easier no question about it. Much can be prevented by enlarging the handwriting so you can see it better! If Ancestry can do it certainly Family Search and the Church can do it!
I've been seeing errors that multiplied in number. I've recently found entire data sets where one indexer mistranscribed every single name. This has to be deliberate, no one can make that many mistakes of reading on one dataset. I think that FS should investigate, but when I called them they promoted the party line- "The researcher will find it." I'm sorry, when it's so badly mispelled that it doesn't match the soundex at all, how are they supposed to find it?! Maybe it's a 'your're not a member of the church' thing for giving that pat answer? Do members get the same response.
The problem is they have people doing the transcriptions that aren't familiar with the area. The simple solution to that is -get familiar with the area! Go look at the census records. See what surnames lived in the area, see what the names of the towns and townships were. There are simple solutions to some of the problems, it's just no one has suggested them! I know about the names and places where my families are from because I haven't just studied my family, I have also studied their neighbors and the towns and townships around them. The cemeteries we visit, we study and photograph other surnames as well, to familiarize ourselves with the area. This helps a lot when you have to transcribe things! I have been working on a cemetery at find a grave using death records here and someone trascribed Letart Township as Setart. There are two places in the county -Letart Township and Letart Falls -a village. Also Letart Falls Cemetery. Also last name Beegle transcribed Buglu. It was just someone really inexperienced doing the transcribing is all. It really does take a lot of practice to read old handwriting quickly and correctly. With less and less people writing now days with the use of computers, the skill of transcribing handwriting is only going to get more difficult. -Shari C.
As most of the participants on this thread, I have been frustrated with the mistakes that have come through the extraction and indexing processes. I want to share with you some experiences I had recently which may be encouraging.
Recently I started using the new Family Tree website launched by FamilySearch. It is the website that members of the LDS Church will use regularly to link their families together. It will also be available more and more to genealogists who are not members of the LDS Church.
Experience 1: Correcting Relationships
Last week I had the opportunity to correct the listing of parents for my mother-in-law. She has both biological and adoptive parents. Unfortunately someone also gave her another set of parents (her adoptive father and his second wife, the stepmother). It was wonderful to make the changes and not have to call the help line and/or fret anymore. I was also able to mark the two sets of parents "biological" and "adopted" which was also good.
Experience 2: Correct Names
Today I was able to correct a surname which had been read and transcribed incorrectly.
The surname was from a Dutch family and is actually "Vleisman". The challenge came because the indexer/extractor had read the "V" as though it was the letter "K" (Kleisman). In another case, the indexer/extractor read the "Vl" as though they were one letter "H" (Heisman). Of course Kleisman and Heisman were incorrect.
This family lived for generations in Groningen, Groningen, Netherlands. Their records are on GenLias (www.genlias.nl) and also the provincial archives website (www.allegroningers.nl). In addition I was able to see the actual record on a digital copy on www.familysearch.org.
One of the problems is that the handwritten "V" in the mid-nineteenth century could be written quite fancy. If a person is not familiar with the Dutch handwriting, it really could be mistaken as the letter "K" -- especially if read by someone who might not know better or who was tired.
After I made the correction, I wrote an explanation and also (in a separate step) added the source information with a note/comment from me.
The thrilling part came when I could correct the surname and never see that incorrect surname again!
I wanted to share this with the participants on this thread because there is hope for us. We will have the opportunity to make corrections, additions, and/or comments to our records.
I agree with the suggestion made earlier today or this week -- keep a notebook of necessary corrections. The corrections might also be kept in a genealogy computer program (notes, additional facts and events, etc.).
If you are not a member of the LDS Church, try to find out when the public will start using Family Tree. It is possible that some non-members are using Family Tree now but I am not sure when they will. Maybe the information is available somewhere but I apologize because I am not sure when or how to sign up currently.
It will be a great day when we can ALL make the corrections and other edits we need to make. I know many of you will be anxious until you can work on the new Family Tree website. (Remember it will be on www.FamilySearch.org).
Do not lose heart. There are better days coming soon!
I agree whole-heartedly Mary Susan Scott! Very nice comments. -Shari
When are we going to get some more UK projects - there is another life beyond the USA.
I was really excited when I heard that they were correcting the major problem with new.familysearch and that you could "correct" inaccurate information that had been submitted over the years from all those 4 generation pedigree and family group sheets that had been submitted over the years. The new program is nice and much easier to navigate but still has not solved the major problem of being allowed to "unlink" your family line and reconnect it using more up-to-date research. I belong to one of the largest families in the church. A MAJOR error was made by a highly respected genealogist in the 1950's. His research has now been totally disproven using both DNA and excellent research by our family organization, but it is still impossible to unlink the bad research and put in the correct names. Yes, it is nice to be able to correct the simple typos from the old records, but all this is pointless if you cannot link your family to the correct ancestors! The myth that the Aldridge Family and the Allred Family are the same group just keeps getting perpetuated over and over. If this only effected just a small group of people, I can understand correcting the misinformation would not be high on the "to do" list, but this effects thousands of faithful members of the church who are just trying to do the best, most accurate job they can in with their genealogy.
Can you unlink the bad research in FamilyTree by deleting the very first incorrect parental relationships going back in time? For example, if John is the closest ancestor to you who is linked to an incorrect line, I believe you can delete the relationships for John as the son of the incorrect father, and John as the son of the incorrect mother. He will then appear as having no parents. I think you can then enter the correct parents so that John will thereafter be connected to the proper paternal and maternal lines.
Not sure what the point of the little smiley and frowning faces are. Is it some king of "group therapy?
I am a beginning genealogist and a beginning indexer but I have a LOT of experience with very large data bases transcribed by human beings. It is simply impossible to make sure that what *you yourself know* as fact is what is recorded in transcribed records. Having done some indexing, the hand writing is horrible. I've had two people appear in the same batch who I KNEW where talking about the same place in Italy but each spelled it differently. Am I as an indexer tasked with going to a gazetteer and finding the correct name? And correct as of when? The 1880's when these men left it or the 21st century? I've seen lots of mashups of my family name (Hotchkiss) and Ancestry does a pretty good job at finding mispelled variants. I won't point out how many typographical errors were made by the folks railing against typographical errors in the transcriptions! The census folks were really bad with handwriting, as we all are today. Think of how many of us don't even handwrite anything beyond a grocery list these days. As an indexer, I try my very best to get what was written on the documents correct as written. If the information is wrong when put down originally, there's nothing I can do. Names have many variant
spellings so be a little forgiving. Absolute accuracy is impossible.
The "official response" is now over two years old.
While major progress has been made with respect to Family Tree in FamilySearch, not being able to correct mistranscribed data in the indexes is really inexcusable and continues to be inexcusable.
As many have said, if ancestry.com can make provisions for at least noting and being able to search on corrections, then there is absolutely no valid reason (especially after two years) why FamilySearch can't implement a system.
If we want to access original records, then the indexes must accurately reflect those records and in one instance that I just looked at, there are two errors in the transcription from the image to the index! And no way to correct those errors!
Even after two years of having this problem recognized? At least give us a progress report!
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Ooooo Aaahhh Shiny... #5 makes me think that the browser based indexing promised here (https://familysearch.org/blog/en/futu...) last August is actually going to be the same thing as user contributed corrections. Of course this makes sense technologically, and is good news for the users. I wasn't sure what new things FamilySearch could excite us with this year. RootsTech 2012 had so many exciting FamilySearch new technologies like Linking, Family Tree, and the mobile indexing app. I wasn't sure this year's RootsTech could be quite as good. I am becoming more excited for it.
PS I hope the new experience will work on mobile devices. That might need another year of programming, but I'm hopeful. That would also fix the mobile Indexing app needs of users.
I too have seen mistakes in the spelling of family names. For example, in the 1930 census, for Park City, Montana, several of my mom's siblings' names are misspelled; for example, Lytia was supposed to be Lydia. Even the last name was misspelled from Vogele (or Vogel) to Vogle. Granted, my grandparents were from
Russia, which made it hard for them to speak English. In the 1940 census, my dad's sister's family's last name was misspelled from Pettipiece, to Littipiece and Lethipiece; also, at one point, my dad's last name was misspelled, from Nazer to Nazer. No, I can not go in and make corrections. Darn it!!
There is no doubt indexers face difficulties in entering correct information but the major issue is NOT BEING ABLE TO CORRECT THOSE MISTAKES OR OUT A NOTE LISTING CORRECT SPELLING. I found a female ancestor whose name had been misspelled breaking the line as when I searched on the correct name I found a whole lot of her ancestors. Please have a simple function where we can enter a notation or a link to a note regarding this person. How hard is that as an interim measure and and alert for the indexers to go back and correct at a later time when it is possible
Free BMD have an excellent system for correcting mistakes - if a researcher
informs them re. an error, even a minor one, and presents evidence then they inform the indexer by email and they are able to correct the records - is this solution too simple for Family Search?
I have written add-ons in FreeBMD and hope that helps family searchers. If you could do that in Family Search it would be a welcome first step. Surely it cannot be problematical not take long to give that possibility. Why has it not been done yet? However I can put up with all the variations (incorrect spellings) and am most grateful for all the generous work put in to make so much information freely available. It is just a pity that there is no way of adding helpful information to it.
I just started looking through FamilySearch and found an error in spelling on one ancestor already. If 3 people looked at the page, and they saw a looping L, they would see that Luigi is not Louigi, and never was, but they don't look at other records on the same page just to study the handwriting. I must also say that Ellis Island is much worse. There's probably 10 different spellings for the same town in Italy, doesn't anyone have a reference list to look at? I guess they just don't care. I share a (illegitimate) relative with Charles Atlas, the body builder, and in Ellis Island, they brag about his being number 1 on the search, but they have the wrong "Angelo Siciliano" (his birth name). I wrote to them about it, but of course they don't want to change it, that would mean they've been wrong all these years!
Just imagine if these people had written the Bible, we would never know if Jesus was related to David or Abraham.
I find errors in dates and places in a family tree for my great-grandparents (not a census transcription error) and it is a crime that I cannot give corrections, or even give alternate suggestions. What's the point of having WRONG information online, and being unable to fix it?
Amen! Very frustrated by incorrect information, even my mother's name is incorrect and she was a member of the church! Looks like they could at least get the names of church members correct.
While transcription errors are extremely possible,but for not having any means to correct your on-line database is hogwash. Fields can be added to allow for comments and/or adjustments. It is just that the LDS doesn't want to do it.
Since Ancestry setup this website in cooperation with the LDS Church, both parties should look at it hard so that corrections can be made by researchers. We know the original documents cannot be changed, but websites and databases can be.
EMPLOYEE0Logan Allred (Employee) January 18, 2013 13:07Austin & bellringer,
Robert has stated that editing/corrections of the data will be allowed later this year. They are working on it. https://getsatisfaction.com/familysea...
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Logan Allred,
For some reason your link above is not clickable or it just won't go to new webpage.
I am on Windows 8 64 bits and Firefox 18.0.1 if it matters.
Logan Allred (Employee) January 26, 2013 01:08The link is just to a comment farther up on this page from robertkehrer from 1 month ago that states it is scheduled for the latter half of 2013.
This is a new area of Mexico which has been very helpful, church records: Los Cinco Senores, Santander Jimenez,Tamaulipas baptism records of 1749-1818 several areas seen, but if you look at image 173 of 569 it states death or interments rather than baptism, It's all good for me, since I/m able to find numerous ancestors in a different location baptism or death I'm able to connect, just to let you know there are death record mixed with baptisms.
I concur. I found place after place where the indexer may grievous errors. Often, I could not understand at all why they did so. The writing/etc. was clear. Other times, it required knowledge of the area to recognize the ghastly errors. There needs to be a way to flag the familysearch to go back and look at the mistakes. Otherwise, this site is not as useful as it could be.
Thanks, Robert, for this good explanation about census errors. I hope that errors that had been corrected earlier are included with the census record. For instance, in the 1930 US census for Salt Lake City, Utah, my father was listed as Alma Barlser instead of Alma Barker. The error was found and corrected a couple of years ago.
It wood be nice to be able to correct the errors since I'm still alive and they have my name misspelled.
I have done extensive research on my wife's family and was i suprised when i looked them up on the new FS and saw all the mistakes. They have one of her uncles name as part of his fathers name, her great grand father goes to the wrong parents and numerous other mistakes as well as missing information. The problem is we cannot change or remove this misrepresentation of our ancestors. Even if the correct information is entered, the old incorrect information stays listed also. To me this is totally unacceptable from someone like FS, who has been such a fantastic research source in the past. With all the improvements and new information FS has been adding, they should have only gotten better, not worse. I just hope this is corrected soon, before too much misinformation is used by people that are just startind and do not know better and wind up with family trees that are useless and confusing.
Johanna Pitsch 7 days ago
There is mix up with my Great-grandmother in the Fuchs/Fox book. It has my her married to the wrong man, She is the daughter of Theodore Klein and Anna Freund, her name is Anna Gertrude Klein aka Gertrude Klein married Sebastian Vierheilig.
They have her married to Johann Joseph Bauer. The lady that married him is Gertrude Anna Klein, daughter of Herbert Klein and Mary ? However to many people are believe in the Latter Day of Saint. I do their death cert. as proof. that is on the site of Seeking Michigan. My e-mail is firstname.lastname@example.com. I am Joan Pitsch Welke. This is a big big head ache for me.
Anna Gertrud Klein
Ancestral File
Anna Gertrud Klein
Pedigree Resource File
19 December 1828
Saint Mary's Catholic Church, Westphalia, Michigan
November 1913
Saint Mary's Catholic Cemetery, Westphalia, Michigan
parents:Theodor Klein, Anna Freund
spouse:Johann Joseph Bauer;Joseph Bauer
children:Peter Bauer, John Peter Bauer...
This needs to be corrected
As you read these two death cert. You will find the One is saying Gertrude Vierheilig, died October 15, 1903, born December 19, 1930 (she did changed her date of birth so she could be younger that her husband Sebastian he was born January 20 1929, she was born December 19, 1828) Her father is Theodore Klein and mother is Anna Freund
The other death cert. You will find the this one saying Gertrude Anna Bauer died November 22, 1913 and was born December 25, 1829, Her father is Hebert Klein
Corr would be
Anna Gertrude Klein
Parent Theodor Klein, Anna Freund
spouse Sebastian Vierheilig
children: Rose, Helena
Anna Gertrude Klein and Sebastian Vierheilig was married at Holy Trinity Church, Alpine Township, Kent County, MI on 09 May 1853
These two death cert. are proof of the Mix up, I am sure you would not like mistake on you files
The Story of St Mary's Westphalia 1836-1986, Of Pilgrimage, Prayer and Promise, is More right than Fuchs/Fox Book, Mr. Fox did not check out the two Gertrude Klein, he has them mix up. My Great-grandmother Anna Gertrud daughter of Teodore Klein and Anna Freund, did not marry Joseph Bauer. She was married to Sebastian Vierheilig. I would like to see this being corrected. I was good in the past that I was able to get my family records and I also was provided with originals, in which I had to read in German. I would like to see that Latter Day of Saints keep up their good work.
Jane Fabiano-Turner, 616-866-2943, know how to get a hold of Phillip Fuchs
Wonder if correcting entries is any closer to being allowed?
I agree with that
It only needs to be possible to add the corrected information. For example when it says DE KUNIS all that need be added is "= DE NUNIS" and in my family's case where it says Raymon RIPPLE add "actually Raymond REFFELL". Does that posssibility need to take years to be enabled?
I agree with the recent comments. After more than three years talking about it, are we any closer to the implementation of a simple method for entering name corrections, similar to the way it is done on Ancestry.com?
Robert Kehrer (Official Rep) October 23, 2013 20:11Yes.
Much closer, even though the final deliverable isn't in your hands. I noted long ago that there were a number of back end systems that needed to be re-engineered to support this feature. We have been consistently moving the work forward on these.
In addition to this behind-the-scenes work, You have seen many major changes to the site (Family Tree, Photos & Stories, Attach records to Family Tree) that have also been high priorities and consumed engineering time.
We're making progress but it will likely be sometime in 2014 before this can be released.
We always ask the Lord to guide us...but sometime is is hard ro read through double entrees. I have seen it al over 49 years, God bless us so we can read though the lines.
I agree with what you say regarding corrections but having an Add a Postem as is the case with FreeBMD allows you to keep the recórd as it is but also to see the correct information instead of concealing and preventing it.
My first time here so please forgive my ignorance but the family tree of mine shows incorrect places of death for a couple of my relatives. How do I fix that?
Tree records can be edited by anyone. It would be best to provide good reason statements and sources for your changes.
The following link is to some excellent training environment (sandbox) where you can learn by doing.
The link mentioned "overview of Sandbox" is about the middle way down the page.
Thanks for the information and effort, I have contacted several of the search sites that have my information wrong and they don't seem to know where the information comes from. Some say they will change it.
How do I get in touch with the people that posted this info?
I understand the need to not make additional errors from having patrons submit data that is not reviewed by Familysearch.org. When you have a visual of the image and it is clear that there was a mistake, those should be corrected as soon as possible. If you get the reputation of having records that are known to be incorrect, then people will not want to use your service.
It's really very sad that errors cannot be corrected! What an over site and unfair to the novice, just think of all the families who could be sealed to the wrong ancestors
Welcome to the community support forum for FamilySearch. FamilySearch personnel read every discussion thread and may or may not respond as their time permits. We patrons, having various levels of knowledge and experience do our best to help each other with concerns, issues. and/or questions.
This is a very old discussion and, basically, out of date. Please do not post on discussions that date back prior to summer 2016. A lot of changes and announcement have taken place since then, which is when FamilySearch was completely severed from the previous system and the last of the data was imported.
Essentially, Ron Tanner, in his RootsTech presentation show a mockup of what the feature may look like. We will be able to add to, change, and correct the indices with the feature that is currently in the works. It is expected to take about a year or so to complete, so you should probably see it about this time next year.
Ron's presentation is on YouTube at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0itqD.... It runs about a half-hour and is only his slides and presentation.about the feature starts around 23 minutes into the presentation.
Tom, I'll have to slightly disagree, while this incredibly long topic (551 replies & 253 participants) may be "a very old discussion" (EIGHT years) and does not discuss "WEB" indexing, Robert Kehrer's original post is still very pertinent to the issue:
"When a patron finds their ancestor and knows that a name is incorrect they logically want to correct it so that it can be properly searched, found and recorded by those who come after.
The FamilySearch system does not currently allow a user to make corrections or annotations on a record. Nor does it provide a way for a user to submit these errors so that someone internally can make the correction. This user need, however, is well understood and a significant amount of time is being invested in mapping out a system that would allow user corrections/annotation to a record. We cannot yet announce a date when such a feature will be available, but it is on the roadmaps and drawing boards.
-Robert Kehrer"
Eight years later we still have no solution - perhaps a refocus of some FS goals are needed. As Judith said "It's really very sad that errors cannot be corrected!"
I'll add your suggestion on NOT responding to old posts to my (virtually ignored) "Forum Improvements" Topic. (As we have recently noted, Forum topics apparently CAN be easily closed, if desired.)
Yes, they can close the old discussions, but I suspect it has to be done manually. If not, if there is an automated process, based upon the date of the last comment, response, or entry, then that needs to be implemented..
I agree that there is no solution in place for correcting index errors and should have been a long, long time ago. This was a major point of discussion in a forum on FamilySearch that predates Get Satisfaction by a number of years.
The response we got then was that they wanted to get the indexing program into place and then they would work on a means to correct the indices.
Unfortunately, from Ron's comments in his presentation, it will be at least another year...
I wonder if there are any updates to this topic?
Transcription errors are there and we really need to be able to correct them.
Claire Brisson-Banks. Yes, the last "update" which really wasn't an update, was a response from Robert Kehrer (who started this post) about correcting the computer-generated indexes from obituaries.
In that post on July 18th, 2018 he said (as his third point): "FamilySearch does not yet have a user driven indexed data error correction system we can deploy across all collections. I have been saying for years that it is being worked on, and I haven't been lying, but there have been higher priorities . We are however getting closer to deploying a minimal initial system in the near future, that we can build upon over time."
That was, of course, a little over four months ago. We don't know where this very often requested feature is sitting as far as priority is concerned,
I just checked the beta site and nothing is going on there to indicate that this feature is in beta testing that users can access. There is a major update going on that will extend out close to a week (or longer), but I suspect that is pulling the existing production data into the beta site for further testing and analysis.
see the change log
Fascinating to see that Robert posted this 9 years ago! As stated in other threads, I was hoping for the recent enhancement to give far more opportunity to include alternative information against indexed records. Other users seem to have a far different view from me about the extent and application of this feature.
From this post (of Robert's), perhaps it was always the intention of FamilySearch management and developers to have a relatively limited way for us to show the "true" / alternative data. In this case I am very disappointed by the limited opportunity that I will have of showing up errors - I wanted to do this whether the errors were made in the indexing process OR in the original document. I never wanted to "change" anything - just present alternative names, places, dates and ages, so other users could make their own judgements of the "facts".
If the current position is all we have been presented with after over 9 years work I am not optimistic that recording the facts about my relatives will ever be extensively possible against the indexed records. I believe this will probably have to remain information only available through their IDs in Family Tree.
The age of this discussion also demonstrates how long we have been requesting the correction feature.
When FS started talking about this around a year ago, there were three elements to the correction feature that was being discussed: corrections (paramount), changes ("not in record" is a good example of this), and additions (missing index field, such as no name of groom even though the groom signed the form, but his name in the groom line was empty).
Currently, the "not in record" element is an issue, not only for being able to back out a mistake, but also being able to edit one's entry. Finally, there is the issue that a "not in record" ends up replacing the name everywhere the index is used.
Then we have another old discussion about badly set up indexing projects. This continues to be a problem.
Now that an indexing correction system has been released into production, there are some excellent discussions on what is wrong with the barest minimum of correcting capabilities. Many examples are being brought forth to help the engineers understand what we, the users, are having difficulties doing and the flaws in the current system which are sometimes caused by us (well, me) that need a means to correct our own mis-entered "corrections".
I am very optimistic that finally, after a decade of requesting this ability to correct transcription errors, offer alternative entries, and add to an existing index when the information is otherwise available on the form, we are starting to see the very beginnings of that means. I have confidence that now that the beginning is there, that FS developers will continue working with the feature until it is fully developed.
The reason for my optimism is because I am seeing vast improvements in the merge comparison tool. Not only do we now see any reason statements, but also I spotted a Life Sketch in a record that I was working on last night with its duplicates.
I believe that once a new (or existing) feature is beginning to be worked on, that FS moves ahead and works on making the feature better. Therefore, I am optimistic that the correction, change, and add to feature for existing indexes will eventually encompass all areas of an existing published index.
Paul, you *can* add information -- about names, anyway -- using the new correction feature. Some of us feel that in the current setup, you *shouldn't*, but that doesn't change the fact that one of the options is "wrong in record". There's even a note field where you can write down your reasoning.
Various FS employees have said (or implied) that the correction function will eventually be expanded to cover other things than just names. Presumably, the expansion will parallel the name-edit function and will have both "indexed incorrectly" and "wrong in record" as options.
It occurs to me that I wouldn't have as much of a problem with "wrong in record" if the resulting index entries and search results displayed those additions differently than the old-vs-new indexed names. I think Tom may have said something along these lines somewhere. Perhaps I will continue this thought on one of the more current threads on the topic....
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Effective June 26, Luna County's administrative offices will move to a 4-day week forecasting utility cost savings of 13% and, based on studies of other counties, a 15-20% increase in employee productivity. Under the new schedule, employees will work 7:00 a.m. to 5:30 p.m., with a half hour for lunch, Monday through Thursday. On Fridays, offices would close except for the Sheriff's Department, the county detention center, and the county-owned Starmax Center.
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If not Roberto Luongo, then what for the Toronto Maple Leafs?
What makes the goaltending search of the next two months so fascinating is that the game within the game is a little like musical chairs. There are only so many goalies of quality available. The suitors are many, in Toronto, Chicago, Tampa, Columbus, maybe New Jersey, maybe San Jose, maybe Detroit.
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"Here's how it will work with Luongo, the way I figure it," the veteran executive said. "He has 10 years left on his contract but as a team you'd expect to buy out the final four years on the contract. That costs you around $5 million over eight years (actually $4.66 million). So, in essence, it's like a back-ended bonus for acquiring Luongo. You're paying $5 million just to get him.
"I don't think Vancouver, under those circumstances, can get a lot in return for him because you're taking that contract. And you probably have to dump some salary on them, too. So I think you can get Luongo for around an early draft pick like second rounder or prospect and the player they have to take back. I can see that as the price some teams are going to be willing to pay."
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Luongo's name is available as a long-term and expensive proposition. The best short term deal may come should Tim Thomas of Boston be available in a trade. Thomas is 38, coming off a Stanley Cup, a Conn Smythe Trophy and a White House snub, but he probably has a year or two left. Thomas would be more suited for a Chicago or a Detroit than Toronto because he would need to be on a contender.
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The free agent goaltending class is spotty. The best buy, 27-year-old Josh Harding, could be the worst buy. Twenty-seven isn't just his age it's the number of games he's usually healthy enough to play each year. He's done nice work with the Minnesota Wild, but you can't believe in a goalie who is forever banged up.
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