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Olympic Athlete Photographer Joe Klamar Brushes Off Criticism
"I was under the impression that I was going to be photographing athletes on a stage or during press conference where I would take their headshots for our archives," he explained. "I really had no idea that there would be a possibility for setting up a studio." It was the first time AFP had been invited to participate in the U.S. Olympic Committee's Media Summit, which was held this year, in May, at a Hilton Hotel in Dallas.
I work for a news agency and I wasn't taking pictures for a Nike ad
via Pixels and piety: Photographing Olympic icons – Correspondent.
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So … what he's saying is, that since he's not shooting advertising it does not matter that he did a crappy job?
Here's a novel idea.
Next time you do a shoot make just the slightest effort to do a good job; or at least make images of a quality that you would want to be associated with.
"I work for a news agency and I wasn't taking pictures for a Nike ad"
A quote that ranks with "What, me worry?" Alfred E Newman
"Excuses? We sent you for photographs not excuses."
A pro worth his pixels would have shot the best images possible within the parameters of the situation. Even just close-up head shots with hand-held flash would have been better. (Think of the on-the-fly style flash-on-camera stuff that Terry Richardson cranks out and is eaten up by the fashion press and gliterati.) Why didn't he talk to the media coordinator to find out what the situation would be or called a photographer who had dealt with one of these events before?
Like a political coverup – the more excuses the deeper he digs his hole.
Ohhhhh my god, can we let this garbage rest already? If I have to listen to one more photographer get up on their soap box and spew about professional ethics or standards or about how THEY would have done the shoot, I am going to go ballistic.
Here, here.
Reminds me of a joke: How many photographers does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
Answer: 11. 1 to do it and 10 to say, "I could have done it better."
Lighten up folks, who knows, this may be the next style everyone copies!
This poor guy is being brutalized…his pix did suck
Actually I like the fact that he has pissed off folks that are stuck in the 1960s era of photography. This guy has stepped out of bounds and has created a very interesting and well shot set of of images. Twenty years from now we'll all be gawking at them in the museum.
Ummm no. Like really no. So much badness
Your Cow Hampshire roots are showing – there's a lot of differing viewpoints of "USA, USA, USA" and it's obvious you are having a hard time going beyond the surface.
I'll be honest man. If you find these to be museum worthy shots, you don't have a career in today's industry. Or really even a respectable hobby…
I've been shooting way longer than you as a pro so you'll need to catch up.
Good for you man. But notice I mentioned "today's industry." Those 1960s era days you mentioned are gone. It's a leaner world today, and shots like the ones Joe put out don't cut it. And they shouldn't.
Because you're still stuck in the 60's format. Joe is from a different politic than you or I, so his photos are more of a comment of how we (USA) relate to the rest of the world. Hence USA folks are pissed. They (including you & I) are having a hard time handling the criticism. His photos are exposing the cracks and crevices – our heroes are not perfect.
I could care less that they're of Olympic athletes. I really have no nationalistic pride attached to this. They could be of hateful world dictators, European heroes or the sweetest old Bolivian couples. They're just bad. He even admits there's no artists intent behind them. "I work for a news agency and I wasn't taking pictures for a Nike ad." That's just patently lazy.
Obviously you miss the point. Good luck in the future. I'm about to retire and can easily see the worth of these photos.
worth? how about a big zero,…it just slays me to hear people trying their hardest to spin this and say these shots were good. ripped, dirty paper, bad lighting, lint on the socks, the list is long. terrible. just terrible. no ifs, ands, or buts,…..
I say put you money where your mouth is…… Take a few shots like these and put them up on richbeaubien.com.
You wouldn't be about to retire if your portfolio looked like that and acting like he had any idea what he was doing with his "Artistic vision" is just silly.
This is a classic case of photographers trying to cross genres. Event photographers think studio work is easy b/c the lights are right there and studio guys think it's easy to get a great candid shot b/c there are no lights to set up. All forms actually take some requisite knowledge to come off correctly.
It seems from his pictures that he does not know how to use lights, if he did the results would be a lot better. If he didn't know then he definitely should have asked someone who did.
I am so glad to see your input here. I don't have a million credentials behind my name. All I know is that I've been blessed to experience really talented photographers and their work. I think this photographer's photos are brilliant. You're right. We will see these photos in the history books and in their rightful places in sports history. There is no accident why these amazing athletes chose this artist.
Rich – PLEASE!!! I've been living and working in Europe for the last 13 years and that is a crock of "merde". :-) None of my European colleagues are saying "Bravo – I understand what he was going for – sheer genius!" Every professional photographer I know would be embarrassed to have their name associated with these images!!!
That is one of the most wonderful and powerful things about photography – it can transcend language and culture – but these images do not. And then there is the fact that he is working for a news agency – so his political views should be nowhere in the mix.
And showing the torn seamless, arbitrary bad crops, and bad lighting does not "show their human flaws". If that in fact was his goal – (which I do not believe it was) then he failed miserably – because I can't get past the bad photography to even consider the athletes. There is no obvious intent to illuminate the viewer into who these people are – and again – if that was the goal – then they picked the wrong venue to try and attempt this. Something that ambitious should be done in a private session – not in an assembly line or "cattle call" situation. So your argument holds no water.
Rich, I saw your photos and they are horrible.
Matt, I saw your photos. Great job.
Rich, sorry man. I'm a really nice guy, but you don't have an eye for photography what so ever, or art in general. It's a harsh reality. I don't want to crush your dreams, keep doing what you love, even if you are not good at it. I love to sing and dance all the time, I'm horrible at it, but I don't get it let me down.
I agree that this is not Joe Kalamars fault as he does not know studio lighting what so ever. He does however have artistic perception I can find aesthetically intriguing. Though they are no where represented in the studio shots.
Everyone claims to be a professional photographer these days. It's easy. You just put "professional" in front of "photographer" and then you add your name in front of that. Thats it. You are now a professional photographer.
just saw your work again. Lifestyle shots are amazing. My cousin shoots for such companies as Tommy Hilfiger, and your stuff is definitely up there. keep it up. Her name is Sarah Kehoe, btw.
Thanks! I'm familiar with Sarah's work, she's fantastic. I've got quite a ways to go before I'm at her level hah.
so tam can you see matts prostate from the angle you are looking at when up his ass?
You are delusional
These pictures are so bad I laugh my ass off every time I see them.
Poor guy.
Michael i'm with you. The pics were bad but given the circumstances i'm sure most people bashing the work couldn't have put something better together within the same constraints. Give it a rest, people. I'm sure the work would have been much better had it been on the photog's terms – which is what you should sign up for anyway.
Thank you Michael Riggs, I couldn't agree more. The photographers whose work I admire most have not piled into this scrum. They're out there shooting and tending to their careers.
I actually thought that his photos were part of a statement or parody. He had so many archetypal approaches – the blue light in the background, the back to back athletes, etc. I loved it as an indictment of the monkey see, monkey do "insert athlete here" approach to contemporary sportraiture. The fact that this was unintentional doesn't lessen the lesson.
I actually think he's explained himself perfectly well. I also think he's making the point that he's not aspiring to or trying to shoot 'nike ad' style imagery, which is fine.
I also think he was briefed in-completely. I think he probably prepared himself for what he normally is expected to shoot, and i don't think you can argue with that. I think many other people would have wanted to do more with the situation for personal reasons (myself included), and planned for possible one-on-one portrait possibilities, but i don't think we can hate on this guy anymore, just because he did'nt.
I am glad he's spoken up. A lot of the photos are much better than what was in the selection at http://www.cbsnews.com/2300-33747_162-10012296.html
It's easy to judge him after the fact. I think he did capture some very real and unusual shots. In truth, he was trying to make a miscommunication work – and he did. Are they the epic type of images we've come to expect? Not really – but, that's part of what I like about some of them. I've been caught with my drawers down on a few shoots too. It just comes with the territory. I applaud his ability to not feel too overwhelmed and just figure out how to make something work. To me, that's one of the big signs of a pro – someone who's able to just be left holding the bag and stick it out.
The problem with that is… he didn't make it work. At all.
I so appreciate your comment here, JR.
"I could do better with my cell phone."
Perhaps this comment about a cellphone is even more relevant than ever. With all due respect to Klamar, Instagram could have been a great solution instead of trying to keep up with the Joneses and their fancy backdrops. Regardless, a camera, a flash, and a simple background should be enough to create a wonderful grid of portraits. While I understand the pressures of a working photographer and the need to hit the ground running, I enjoy seeing photographers doing more with less while simultaneously making better pictures. Even with the odd patriotism comments aside, Klamar didn't make photos happen for the athletes or for himself. Perhaps the editor didn't brief him well or maybe he didn't do his own homework. Either way, I agree with Mark Kalan above that a far simpler solution would have been better than trying to keep up with the others or old habits. Maybe next time the editor should call up a documentary photographer instead of a journalist. Or even a wedding photographer. They deal with unexpected stuff at every shoot.
"Maybe next time the editor should call up a documentary photographer instead of a journalist. Or even a wedding photographer. They deal with unexpected stuff at every shoot." Agreed
McNally or Hobby would have nailed it
Or Magnum Photo's newest Zoe Strauss. I would love to have seen her honest portrayal of the athletes.
I actually immediately thought of some wedding photographers as well. Like Bobbi & Mike… last year, I think, a tornado hit a wedding they shot and the images are amazing. I'm pretty sure they, and many others like them, could have thought a lot faster than "hey, I'm going to butt in on this backdrop". Backdrops suck anyway.
I thought the photos were good, maybe even better than good. For those of you complaining, what are you afraid of?
Pisspoor planning prevents pisspoor performance.
Piss poor planning PRECLUDES piss poor performance…….
Proper Prior Planing PREVENTS piss poor performance
What ever happened to letting a photo be a photo? Instead of chewing each other up, if you feel the photos are bad, then do better on your shoots. I worry about where our priorities really are if we just attack other photographers so viciously.
Isn't that true.
It's a bit discouraging to read all this bitter nastiness.
Usually comments here have some class, not this time.
His photos were not bad actually.
Yes agree- some were somewhat puzzling though.
Puts other photographers in poor light if we don't self criticize because anybody with instagram can say they could have done it better.
ah… it's so easy to comment on this from the comfort of your office isn't it. Anyone here ever worked in a news gathering environment? Anyone? Yeah, thought so.
Based on his comment it sounds he was asked to come along to a media event and take some photos. Once he got there the brief suddenly changes and he wasn't prepped for it. If that's the case I actually don't think he did that badly.
In the end did they get lots of publicity? Yes! Remember the old slogan "any publicity is good publicity". This did make world news after all.
@Tom – No professional photographer who shoots for AFP and Getty is asked to just "come along… to take some photos." This would be akin to saying the Olympic athletes "come along to watch the games." No. It's clear that since every other photographer at the shoot got the memo to bring a studio, this photographer either:
a) was ill prepared and could not summon the creativity to turn lemons into lemonade, or
b) intended to do this to show the vulnerabilities of athletes as people.
Either way, I can't see these photos helping Klamar's career though I would give him credit for being so bold if his intention was the latter. Of course, you are correct about even bad publicity being good. Perhaps this is when Klamar leaves the sad mainstream media to try his own luck. Maybe he really is interested in photography that is more revealing than the usual media BS.
I support the guy, and as for the rest of you who have nothing better to do but negatively criticize other people when you dont know all the facts, you should be ashamed of yourselves. i mean who the hell are YOU to get onto your high horses and speak as though you were gods of photography. we all have shit days and crappy people to deal with. i bet there isnt a single person commenting, who hasnt stuffed up royally sometime or other. if YOU havent, YOU simply havent shot enough! JEEZ, SHUT UP if you have nothing of value to say!
When asking people to dismount their high horse, it's often a good idea to lay off the caps lock.
Imagine a plumber showing up for a job and saying, "I thought I was going to work on a sink not a toilet". Its a craft and its the responsibility of the photographer to be prepared for anything. I don't know what a 300mm prepares you for other than shooting a concert from the soundboard or birds in a park.
What does it mean to get "stuck in the 1960s era" ??? Personally, I like good & professional work, does't matter if it is modern or 100 years old.
What a nasty, cutthroat profession we work in! I am dismayed by the level of opprobrium heaped on this photographer. God knows our business is in enough of a crisis without us turning on each other. Is that where the nastiness comes from perhaps? Has this "race to the bottom" in editorial photography, with ever declining budgets and increasing competition for work contributed to this mentality?
Mr Klamar, if you're reading this, stick to your guns. Apologise for nothing. You did the best you could in a hugely adverse situation. And we've all been there! Well maybe not Mr. "KameraDude" who was moved to write on the AFP blog,
"I am not a full-time pro as of now, but as a Flickr Pro who has won hundreds of awards there, I can tell you these pictures suck. I know I could have done better had I been invited to take those pictures…
(Nikon D800E, Olympus OM-D, Fuji X100, Olympus OM-2 (used with Tri-x 400) IMac/Ipad. Silver Nikonian, Muti award winning Flicker Pro)"
Wow, I eagerly await Mr KameraDude's contribution to photography!
My take home point from this episode is the "cattle market" nature of the shoot. It seems to have taken the press junket to new levels. Is this really the new norm? Surely we should be railing against the conditions that clients and PRs increasingly expect us to work under, rather than impugning
the reputation of a hardworking professional?
And as for the "world's ugliest picture of Michael Phelps", I actually rather like it. The harsh lighting, the folded arms and the relaxed musculature speaks of a vulnerability that we wouldn't normally associate with all-conquering Olympic athletes. Would it really have been better to have him pumped up and draped in the flag? Not for me, thank you. I've already seen that.
Ahh yes, the "cattle market" nature of the shoot. I would suggest that if one wanted to avoid any type of diversity in the scope of their labor they would choose to work for the federal government. However this is the nature of the business we are in.
Walk in, prepared, with limited expectations, work your ass off and leave with beautiful pictures.
The cattle market set up was the the mountain to climb that day for Joe and he just stayed at base camp and had little to share of his adventure.
Go Joe go!
OK – now that all is said here are some GREAT photos from a shooter that was at the same event. read his blog and you'll see he did his research BEFORE the event.
My take is that what he had to try was not what was expected. He did what he could.
– There appears to be (from the photographer's own writing) no attempt at greater social commentary.
– Looks exactly like he captured pics of the athletes as a journalism photographer asked to do a cattle-call portrait marathon.
– Tried a different perspective, but execution in borrowed space sometimes lacked. (not your seamless, not in your control) is what it is.
– The community is really trying to make this a meta-argument about their thoughts on the industry in general. (Please stop).
– Reality for me is that portraiture is about making a subject look their best and captures the essence of the person, their character, and their circumstance. These images kind of miss on that for me.
For those keeping score: could I do better? I have no idea, I wasn't there.
Dude, these aren't that bad. Maybe a bit dated..and I'd say late 80's, early 90's. Definitely not the 60's.
Anyways, as far as art goes, I shot an Olympic portfolio recently. Gotta say, didn't get this many comments. Good or bad. Winner Mr. Klamar.
I must admit a bit of confusion.
As stated by his own statement, he wasn't trying to do some sort of 'artistic' take on the evil USA. Nor was he trying to be 'edgy' in order to make some other political statement.
He admits he took bad images, then says he flatly doesn't care.
OK. Works for me.
But let's then drop the whining about how day rates are lower, and the magazines won't pay anymore and waaawaaawaaa… if THIS is now the level of work that many in the industry are so willing to embrace as "brilliant" (a quote from someone I used to respect – and is well respected in the industry), then we should expect a lot more downgrading of both fees and expectations.
Photographers have never gotten it. WE are our worst enemy. WE force the fees down. WE sign the terrible contracts. WE deliver all the images. WE give up our copyright for the 'opportunity' to do a job. WE shun business practices that would protect our livelihood and future. WE circle the wagons and pronounce feces as caviar. WE are the problem.
Let us first say what photography is not. A photograph is not a painting, a poem, a symphony, a dance. It is not just a pretty picture, not an exercise in contortionist techniques and sheer print quality. It is or should be a significant document, a penetrating statement, which can be described in a very simple term – selectivity. – Berenice Abbott
My father was a student of Berenice and I find these photos very compelling.
It's intriguing. Kinda like Yoko Ono being asked to sing opera. Dunno, I see the relevance here, the ones who say right on and the others saying no way. But also the cringing aspect of well, the pictures. No matter how you look at it (no pun intended) it was a crap set up in any case. Kinda like asking , well, Yoko Ono to sing opera.
Yo, Americans!
You just need to understand that USA! USA! USA! is no longer. Put your ego down and realize you're not a great power anymore.
Why so "offended" when the pics of Michael Phelps aren't shiny, fake, and cheesy? Didn't YOU take a couple pics like that the other day for that *****y trade magazine? Good luck paying for that IQ180.
I'll admit–this was funny as hell.
I'm not good at photography in studio. But, even I was looking at these like, "this is the part of the 80% of art that really didn't work". Most artists can make it work with their confidence that shines through. This was like watching a movie and thinking about the actor "acting" the whole time. Didn't convince me. I feel badly for him. My nerves are shot just THINKING about if I were in his position.
Rather than pass judgement, I want to point out that Joe probably knows that he is only as good as his last work. His clients are looking at these and thinking "Oh jeez, these are NOT what Joe normally does" or "Yep. That's Joe!"
Does anyone know if there were some truly great or iconic images from this shoot? Realistically, 30-60 seconds IS long enough to make some remarkable images if there is a great and motivated shooter behind the lens and I'm positive SOMEONE has to have created some!
Horror movie fans criticize bad horror movies. Action adventure fans criticize bad action adventure movies. And, photography fans criticize bad photography.
The response to these photos is overwhelmingly negative. There are a few positives, but that doesn't make up for the fact it's bad photography. Any photog fan or professional can see that.
It may not be 100% his fault, but at the end of the day, show your best work. This is NOT Klamar's best work. I feel bad for the guy because it's just not.
Why we are suddenly settling for mediocrity, I have no idea. But, these didn't do our Olympic team the justice they deserve. We demand excellence of our team athletes, we should of their photogs, too….
Please, I don't wish to be misunderstand here, stop thinking about politic after visiting this page, but that is, in my opinion, how should an image celebrating olympic games or athlete look like …
This photo was taken more than seventy years ago with similar lighting & scene set up …
"I don't wish to be misunderstood" – my apologies for bad English …
lousy excuse for lousy picutres
Joe, I am in awe of these photographs of the most incredible athletes for the next Olympic games. Their bodies are amazing. I love the lighting and how you touched on the muscles and their incredible personalities. You are a master of photography and there is no accident why these wondrous athletes chose you to photograph them. Forget about your critics!!
Wow…that's crazy! How do you know of her? Personally or just her work?
A picture should not be judged by the amount of time it took to take it, or the effort that went into it. When it comes down to it a picture should be judge solely by what the picture is.
When looking at a renaissance painting, there are very few who talk about how many days it took them to paint that. They talk about lines, texture, color, etc.
When it comes down to it, these photos could have been a lot better. It's not negativity. It's an opinion.
Check out Greg Heisler's work. He has stories of making photos within a 15 min time frame and they're amazing.
Sounds like all the complainers think that every picture a photographer takes is perfect. Then I recommend that you all get your little point and shoot cameras out – get invited,spend the money and find out what it means to be a photographer. No picture is bad just the people that are looking at them and can't seem to appreciate art. Photography is art and not everybody likes the artist eye – so get over it you flatlanders….
There has to be bad pictures in order for there to be good pictures. If they're all good then they are all just pictures and nothing special.
I agree not all pics are good – and we whom call ourselves photographers should only show good pictures and not the bad ones. But hmmm – who is to say what is good for you is good for me or vice versa.
Oh dear, what an unedifying spectacle we photographers have collectively conjured over this issue. How quick to judge, to boast and to condemn we all appear.
Have we no empathy, no basic decency, no shame?
A photographer took an assignment which turned out to be the opposite of what he expected. He tried to salvage the situation and it didn't work out. Nobody has died or lost their limbs because of it. The tax-payer has not been asked to foot a massive bill for his mistake and while it may make you wince a little to look at the pictures, I am not aware of anyone suffering any lasting impairment to their vision as a result of looking at them.
The poor guy was clearly out of his comfort zone, working with kit that was not his and in a situation where he might well have felt intimidated. If anything, I think he maybe just tried too hard to be too different. It's all over the place: unnecissary wide angles, inappropriate viewpoints, cheesy poses, odd shadows, a quite impressive array of unfortunateness… if that is a word.
But once again, no evidence that any of his subjects were left traumatised by having a 16mm stuck uncomfortably close to their face as they mourned the loss of their loved ones. No suggestion that the olympians now feel unable to represent their country after being sullied and personally degraded by the process of being photographed in such an… ahem…. "unusual" way.
So while the athletes themselves seem not to have given a flying toss, every person who rightly or wrongly imagined themselves to be a photographer has heaped undue scorn, praise and in some cases genuine hatred on this work. Thereby ironically ensuring it is seen by many more people than otherwise would have sought it out.
Of course, many of the internet comments have been hilariously poorly informed.
My personal favorites revolve round the fantastical idea that AFP somehow have an unlimited pool of photographers with differing specialities and the time to match the assignments to the skill-sets. Comedy Gold!
Or those that say they would have happily done that assignment without realising what the day rate, rights transfer or working hours are for a wire agency shooter.
Instead of lining up to repeatedly kick Joe for his mistakes and do laps in a cesspool of our own industrial-strength ignorance we could have been a little more constructive? Kind even?
Maybe something like, "aaah Joe, sorry about those Olympic pictures, definitely not your finest hour. Better luck next time eh?"
"Still, looking on the bright side, nobody died and nobody lost an eye!"
totaly agree. i personally know an event photographer, also working for a news company. and i have seen that news/event photographers, even thou called Pro's (cuz they earn their money with it) just can't do studio photoraphy right. they are the PROfessional point and shooters of this buziness but not the glamour and fame shooters like the rest of like to claim yourselfs.
after that said, some pro's maybe cant take a good shot in sticky event situations as good as Joe. fortunatly Joe can. he's trained for unknowing events, quick to engage, P mode on his D50. iso to auto. flash directly for the face. and live view on…. he's trigger must be razor quick, taking a picture before the action is past…
on the other hand our so called studio photographers are relativly slow in their action. they need time to think what to do with the subject, where to put the lights, what works what not, lots of testing then heavy retouching afterwards. by some they are called the fictional directors of photography, while Joe is our documentary director of photographer. you simply cannot compare apples with pears for this matter. so stop bullieng him. everyone who said bad things to Joe, must deaply feel ashamed. wanting to make a white man jump/dunk. while only black men can jump/dunk.
Joe, i think you did an excelent job!
your pictures will at least be remembered. Cuz they are different. they are very very different. and only different things will eventually be remembered. Let this at least be a lesson for all those look
-alike-photography-shooters out there. :p
Lets not forget, that an editor at AFP could have squashed the images from being released in the first place if they thought they were that bad. So some blame has to be put on that editor who allowed them to go through. These are not very good images, and the photographer admits he was unprepared, but ultimately its an editor that decides whether to put them on the wire.
The editor knew that they were bad but decided to run them en masse just to highly the horrific quality.
On one hand, his pics did all have a cohesive look to them. Now that look may have been bad, but someone had to like them enough to release them to the public. I think it just goes to show in this day and age, photography is done by everyone and to get your name in the ring you have to stand out. The saying used to be any press is good press, and I am sure most of you also went out to search the web for this guys portfolio as soon as you laid eyes on the shots.
I still think they are lazily done, and most first year technical drawing majors could have done a just as good of a job with their blackberry cameras. And if those drawing majors had iPhones, probably a better job.
I looked up his portfolio to see if this was a bad fluke. Nope, his usual work is quite underwhelming.
In a more civilized time, he would have been asked to commit Seppuku
I just want to know, did he at least shoot in "sport mode" ;P
I think its unfair that so many are about to pickup knives and go after this guy. He was ill informed of the shoot style and conditions, frankly I think his big mistake was releasing them (since he is shooting for AFP I imagine he had no choice). I don't think it would have been terrible to photoshop the ripped paper flooring, but being a photo-journalist I imagine they don't allow themselves to do that. Regardless of the guy being amazing or not in taking photos of Olympians, I hardly think its worth the death threats the guy has been getting. If you don't like it, look at someone else's work, pretty simple.


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Methods of Use The various properties of Garlic are much more efficient if eaten raw, since heat makes it lose its usefulness, nevertheless, if the garlic is undigested on certain occasions provokes disagreeable and odorous belching. To avoid this first crush 3 garlic cloves and swallow without chewing halfway thru meals, with the final result of not irritating the stomach lining and and ease its way to the intestines. Other forms of eating garlic are in salads, boiled in milk or combined in water, lemon juice in tincture ect.
To Stimulate the Appetite and Digestion: Grind 3 Garlic cloves with a little water and eat raw, before or during meals.
For Anemia: Prepare a salad with radish, lettuce, tomato and raw crushed Garlic, add a little oil and salt to taste.
To Improve Blood Circulation: Eat 2 to 3 crushed Garlic cloves before breakfast.
To Lower Arterial Blood Pressure in Persons with Hypertension: Mince well 1 clove of Garlic and swallow with water for several days.
In Cases of Asthma, Difficulty in Breathing, Cough, Whooping cough, Diphtheria and Bronchial afflictions: Boil in 1/2 liter of water, 8 Garlic cloves, peeled and crushed, add a little bit of oregano, strain then add 2 spoonfuls of bee honey and from this take 1 teaspoonful once an hour until better avoiding any and all cold drinks or food. For the same symptoms but to get better faster you can also do this: Boil in 1/2 liter of milk, 1/2 a head of Garlic and 2 carrots, sweeten to taste with bee honey and take 1 warm glass of the remedy before bedtime.
To Cure the Welt that Appears Around the Neck Area Especially in Summer: Take a clove of Garlic, cut in half and rub vigorously on the affected area, after approximately 3 hours add a little bit of lemon juice to the affected area 3 times a day and continue to follow the remedy until the welt is gone.
For Rheumatism: Take 2 Garlic cloves, open in half, and rub vigorously on the painful area until the Garlic juice appears. Do this same treatment several times a day avoiding water(as in baths) or cold environments.
For Mosquito, Scorpion, Bee, Hornet and Wasp stings: Crush 1 garlic clove and apply the remedy on the affected area while gently rubbing it in. The Pain Will Stop!
For Malaria: Take 3 whole Garlic cloves and a glass of milk each morning.
For Fevers: Boil 1/2 kilo of Garlic in liter of water then mix in 1/2 kilo of sugar, let stand, strain, then drink one spoonful before each meal.
For Rabies: Drink several times a day the infusion made with 100 grams of Garlic cut into little pieces to 1/2 liter of water, let sit for 1 day, wring and sweeten to taste with sugar or bee honey.
For Mild Burns: Take 3 or 4 Garlic cloves, crush, mix with oil(cooking oil)and apply to the burn.
For Callusses: Make a paste of Garlic and honey, apply to the callus for several days,the callus will soften then disappear.
To Remove Thirst Instantly: Take a head of Garlic, blend in 1 liter of water and drink as a regular daily drink whenever thirsty.
To Remove that Certain Bad Breath almost Everyone Has in the Morning: Take 1 raw Garlic clove, crush, strain into a glass of water with the juice of 2 lemons and kiss your bad breath away.
For Athletes Foot: Dust feet with Garlic powder and wear clean socks all the time.
There are other methods to take advantage of Garlic`s curative properties,"Garlic Tincture" which is prepared the following way: Crush 2 Garlic heads and macerate in 250 grams of pure alcohol until the tincture is formed. Next is the description of the therapeutic effects from the use of this tincture(condensed excerpt from Dr. Helle of Berlin Germany).
1. 20 drops of Garlic tincture to 1/2 glass of water will attack uric acid which in turn relieves.
pain from arthritis, rheumatism and sciatic gout.
2. 20 drops of said tincture to 1/2 glass of water benefits the digestive apparatus relieving constipation and strain to the bowels.
3. 20 drops of the tincture in 1/2 glass of water will in a short while relieve hypertension.
4. 20 drops of the tincture in 1/2 glass of water will stimulate the hepatic(liver) function.
5. 20 drops of the tincture in 1/2 glass of water will relieve the palpitations, difficulty in breathing and the anguish most cardiac patients suffer.
6. 20 drops of the tincture in 1/2 glass of water aleves continuous fatigue, neurologies, headaches, insomnia, hysteria, depression and muscular rigidity.
7. 20 drops of the tincture in 1/2 glass of water cures varicose and hemorrhoid.


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What causes Racism?
And why would a person consider his race better than other races?
Just like many psychological issues Racism is a complex topic that can't be attributed to a single cause. Instead many factors come together that slowly change a person's beliefs about his own race and other races.
The first factor that plays a big role in racism is the tribal brain. Did you notice how iPhone owners take pride in belonging to such a group?
In fact seeing the jokes circulating around regarding Android and iPhone can give you a powerful indication of how the tribal mind can force humans to divide themselves into groups. See Why jokes tell the truth.
And if humans go as far as dividing themselves into groups based on their phones then certainly diving themselves based on race and skin color is very likely to happen. It all begins by seeing yourself different than other people then the rest of the process happens in an almost automatic way.
Humans always want explanations for everything and they generally hate uncertainty. Those facts motivate humans to always try to fill gaps whenever something is unclear or not obvious.
When a group of humans see a different person they can quickly jump to conclusions because they are uncertain or even afraid. One of the reasons people discriminate against blacks in some countries is fear.
Fear of the unknown and lack of familiarity can easily lead to such racist thoughts. See why Similarity promotes attraction.
Next comes the effect of the media which programs people's minds indirectly and feeds them with certain beliefs about different races. Our brains selectively choose to highlight certain pieces of information while totally ignoring other pieces of information.
If for example you believe that blacks are criminals then you are more likely to remember an incident where a black person committed a crime. And you won't stop here because you will be very likely to share such event with friends and on social media.
Each person who has certain racist beliefs about blacks will certainly find your posts more interesting than other posts showing that a white person committed a similar crime.
In other words as the media focuses on certain events, because of belief bias, more and more people tend to focus on those events thus strengthening their racist beliefs. See How do people twist the facts to support their beliefs
There is certainly a connection between low self esteem ,inferiority and the racist behaviour. In the Ultimate guide to becoming confident i said that those who feel confident focus on their own good traits while those who have confidence issues focus on putting others down.
When a person feels satisfied with who he is he won't have a need to put others down but when a person feels inferior then he might need to put others down in order to feel good about himself. See why do some people criticize and put people down
In another article i said that jealousy can actually make you a racist. Once we see someone through a lens of hate we will always try to search for that person's flaws and then focus on them as if we don't have any.
Racism can thus be the source of pride of the person who has nothing else to be proud of.
People who are racist are usually ignorant about history. Many racist people get surprised when they realize that the people they consider inferior once had empires that was so successful or that even ruled a large number of countries.
Some studies are even pointing out that humans were originally black and then genetic mutation resulted in the development of the white race. Thus the more educated a person gets the less likely he is to be racist.
It also takes a great deal of emotional intelligence to be able to rule over your own mind instead of letting it control your perception and force you to live in a twisted reality.
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Florida Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz has spent her time at the Democratic National Convention here much the same way she has since becoming chair of the party last year: with a spirited defense of President Barack Obama, sharp barbs aimed at Republicans and a splash or two of controversy along the way.
Appearing before the Florida delegation's breakfast Wednesday, Wasserman Schultz was hailed as a home-state success story. She drew a hearty applause when she took the platform; delegates later stood near the stage to get better pictures of her with mobile devices or posed with her outside the ballroom where the breakfast was held. And for her part, Schultz returned the praise.
"Thank you so much for lifting me up, for having my back, for being there for me every step of the way," she said. "And it just makes me so proud to have been asked by President Obama to watch his back and help bring him across the finish line and be a Florida girl ... representing our state and being the political voice of our president and our party."
And she played to type, ripping the Republican National Convention in Tampa last week as a "special interest-funded" confab complete with "backroom deals" and "smoke-filled rooms." She raised the stakes on the election while acknowledging that party officials often do.
"This one really is the most important election of our lives," she said.
And she took questions afterwards on a pair of controversies related to a topic on which the South Florida congresswoman is a valuable surrogate for Obama: Israel.
Wasserman Schultz brushed away criticisms of the party platform by Republicans for initially omitting a statement that the contested city of Jerusalem is the capital of Israel. The national committee later reversed course and changed the plank to recognize Jerusalem as the capital although Arab-American delegates voted against it.
Wasserman Schultz said the Democratic platform clearly endorsed the United States' role as a close ally of the Jewish state and that it ruled out allowing Iran to obtain nuclear weapons.
"It's words and deeds that matter, and our platform reflects in word and deed President Obama and Democrats' commitment to a strong U.S.-Israel relationship," she said.
But Wasserman Schultz also faced questions about a back-and-forth between her and the Washington Examiner, a conservative newspaper that posted online a report in which she seemed to suggest that Israeli Ambassador Michael Oren said Republicans were endangering Israel.
"I've heard no less than Ambassador Michael Oren say this, that what the Republicans are doing is dangerous for Israel," Wasserman Schultz said, according to a recording of the remarks later posted on the Examiner's site. "They're undermining Israel's security by suggesting that the United States and Israel don't have anything other than a unique and close and special relationship."
The original story quoted the first sentence, then included some of the context several paragraphs later. Wasserman Schultz originally denied saying it. She later said the effect was to distort her remarks to suggest a frontal assault on Republicans that Oren had by then denied.
"They ripped one line out of what I said and left the rest [out], so it appeared as though I was saying something that I wasn't," Schultz told reporters. "In fact, that line is the opposite of what I always say, which is -- and I will say again -- is that it is dangerous to turn Israel into a political football as the Republicans are trying to do."
But Karen Harrington, a long-shot Republican candidate opposing Wasserman Schultz in the general election for a second time, slammed the comments in a statement issued by her campaign Wednesday morning.
"This desperate attempt to demonize Republicans by telling an intolerable lie is shameful and utterly reprehensible," Harrington said. "This is just another example of why Congresswoman Wasserman Schultz and her extremist ideology must be defeated this November."


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In This Issue:A Fire on Elijah's Mountain | What will be Israel's Next Catastrophe? | God's Wake Up Warning | Crises in the Book of Revelation | What if a Man Gains the World...
On the first day of Hanukkah - a thursday - a devastating fire broke out on the mountain top near where Elijah had called down fire from heaven. This fire, the worst in the history of Israel, was driven by violent winds which sent it out of control for four days.
by Shira Sorko-Ram
A teenager from a Druze village high in the Carmel Mountains was smoking a nargile – a Middle Eastern glass bottle in which smoke from charcoal is drawn through water before inhaled. Afterwards the kid threw the still burning charcoal in a field and went off to school.
At around 11:00 a.m. a Israeli flight instructor spotted below a tiny blaze just outside the Druze village of Isfiya – overlooking Haifa – and alerted the fire department. Hampered by an immense lack of equipment and personnel, the little fire brigade managed to get to the scene around 1:00 p.m.
To their utter horror, the firemen found themselves facing a massive wall of fire. The winds over the Carmel Mountains howled furiously through the dry tinder and underbrush in a way that even old timers in the fire truck had never seen.
As is done in Israel, the firemen called for an agriculture crop duster to spray fire retardants. At 1:45 p.m. the first makeshift firefighting aircraft came to the rescue. But by this time a cascading conflagration was racing down the mountains toward a prison holding mainly Palestinian prisoners – 500 in all.
Elad, an Israeli 16-year-old volunteer fireman scout was in civics class when he heard about the fire. He had volunteered hundreds of times and was determined to join the firefighters headingfor the Carmel forest fire. Calling his mother to pick him up from school, he rushed to the blaze.
The Prison Service was notified that they must urgently evacuate the prisoners. A bus load of 40 cadets – with Elad – left upper Haifa and then turned a sharp right and headed down the narrow winding Highway 721 through the gorgeous national forest and wild life reserve.
An Israeli National Geographic photographer, Roni Sofer, was traveling down that same road with a police car behind him and then the bus with the cadets, and behind it another police car with Haifa's fire chief. The fire had been reported to be southeast, several kilometers away near the area of Isfiya.
As the convoy rounded a corner, they could not believe their eyes. In front, cutting off the road was a wall of fire like they had never imagined. Suddenly, to their left, a monstrous inferno raced down the mountainside threatening to cut them off from behind.
Photographer Roni Sofer turned his camera towards the back of his car while madly attempting to escape himself. His lens captured the burning bus plus Prison Service cadets running for their lives. Thirty seven cadets died within minutes and another six succumbed to their wounds shortly after. Three escaped by jumping into Sofer's car.
The photographer began to back up his car. The bus saw what was happening and also attempted to turn around, but a burning tree fell and blocked the bus. Sofer passed the bus backing up and then turned around.
He now saw that at unimaginable speed the inferno had jumped the highway and closed off the road in front of him. At that moment he was sure that within seconds he would die.
As he looked through his rear view mirror, he saw the bus beginning to go up in flames. As he lurched forward, he turned his camera towards the back of the car and took pictures out the back window.
Three of the cadets raced towards Sofer screaming "Save us!" They jumped into Sofer's car. He then stepped on the gas and wildly drove through the wall of fire.
His car began to melt and catch fire – and then suddenly he was on the other side of the cloud of fire and there was a fire truck spraying him down. He and three cadets were saved.
Up on a hill a few hundred feet away, another photographer, Dan Amir, watched in horror as the bus caught fire. In minutes the fire pushed on, leaving nothing but ashes behind.
Thirty-seven young men and women – Jews, Arabs and Druze – burned to death in seconds, including the 16-yearold Elad. Haifa's Chief of Police, the highest woman police officer in Israel who had been in her car behind the bus held on to life for four days and died, as did five other policemen.
The nation froze as they listened to the report. They sat transfixed in front of their televisions all weekend, watching exhausted firemen dealing with the lethal inferno.
Israel is small. When disaster hits, the people mourn as one voice. On Thursday evening, the firefighting services spokesman went on TV and publicly begged every firefighter in the country to come immediately to fight the fire. The fire departments in Israel are run locallyin each area so there was no automatic way to strategically plan to efficiently use even the limited equipment and personnel available.
Then Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu did something never before done in Israel. He began making phone calls to the heads of nations and urgently requesting them to send fire-fighting planes and equipment. Israel's firefighters understood that without planes this raging inferno would twist and burn all the way to the Mediterranean Sea, incinerating everything in its path.
As night fell, a government official cried on TV that the nation had virtually no fire retardant or fire-suppressing foam in the whole country! The supply for 2010 had been used up with the 1200 fires they had already fought! Nobody had expected there to be more fires in December!
The official acknowledged that the Carmel forest fire was completely out of control. Moreover, Israel itself has great pilots but only makeshift crop-sprayer planes – and only 1400 firemen and women – a ratio of one to 6,000 civilians, when the average in the West is one firefighter to every 1,000 civilians. At dawn Friday morning, Israel's crop-sprayers were in the air along with the first of 33 fire-fighting aircraft from 16 countries around the world that began arriving and were immediately put to work.
Planes, firefighters and equipment poured into Israel from friendly countries – Germany, Italy, Holland, Cyprus, Greece, Bulgaria, Croatia and others. They came from Russia, Spain, Switzerland, the U.K. and U.S. But they also came from Muslim countries – Egypt, Jordan and wonder of wonders, Turkey! – the country that sent the Flotilla to break Israel's blockade against Hamas.
But the most amazing act of generosity came from the Palestinians – sending three fire trucks and crews to fight the fire. The men told Israel TV that every one of the Palestinian firefighters on the West Bank wanted to be selected to come and help fight Israel's forest fire.
All day Friday the Russian, Greek, Turkish and many other nations' planes sprayed their chemicals on the fire. What an operation it was for Israel's Air Force with the babble of some 15 different languages and maneuvering the many planes among the flames. (Israeli pilots flew in every plane to coordinate the operations.)
Roni Sofer returned to film what was left of the bus and its passengers as soon as the fire moved on.
By nightfall it seemed that progress had been made. But during the night ferocious winds whipped up the flames and by Saturday morning the conflagration was as out of control as ever. Small fire-fighting aircraft cannot fly at night.
Several villages and towns were on fire and 17,000 people were evacuated from their homes – including suburbs of Haifa. Israelis took in the stranded evacuees to their homes – as Israelis do – not caring if they were Jews, Arabs or Druze.
Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, the head of the Shas party, announced that the devastating Carmel fire was a result of insufficient Sabbath observance in the area.
"Fires only happen in a place where the Sabbath is desecrated," he said. "We must repent and keep the Sabbath appropriately." How sad that this great Jewish rabbi understands nothing about true repentance.
In all the agony suffered by the Israeli people, the one silver lining around the terrible clouds of smoke was the outpouring of care and sympathy displayed by the nations that responded with real compassion.
Israel often feels that it doesn't have a single friend among the nations of the world. This tragedy proved that for now it is not true.
The fire raged on through Saturday with Israeli pilots fighting with their makeshift planes and the nations spraying the southern part of the forest. By this time a great Evergreen 747 supertanker was on its way to help, the largest fire-fighting plane in the world.
Air view of the bus which was not able to turn around to escape the sudden wall of fire.
Israel's government found the U.S. private company on Google and hired it on the telephone. On Sunday morning it appeared, swooping back and forth over the Carmel forest for an hour getting its bearings. All Israel watched its every move.
So much hope was dependent on this huge beautiful bird. At last it banked low over the hills spewing 95,000 liters of fire resistant chemicals and water. With only two rounds it hit the bull's eye where the greatest conflagration still leaped along, gobbling everything in its way.
At that moment, the nation heaved a great sigh. The monster had been slain. For the first time firefighters on the ground actually entered deep into the forest beating down every smoking brand.
The four-day forest fire was Israel's worst in the history of the nation. Five million trees – out of the 8,000,000 in the Carmel Forest were destroyed. In all, 250 homes burned and thousands of animals were killed in the Carmel Nature Reserve. Not counting the forest, the cost of fire damage is estimated at some $325,000,000.
Now the incriminations and accusations of why Israel was so ill prepared for such a fire would begin.
Watch these amazing condensed videos of the Carmel fire - how it started and how it progressed. (The videos - Day 1, Day 2, Day 3 - have 24 hours of footage pass by in just over 2 minutes)
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Pundits are doing some soul-searching, even if the government may not be. Will the Carmel fire disaster wake up those in power?
The Jerusalem Post editorial writes, "Israel's unpreparedness in other fields is inviting the next tragedy. Prevention is still an option." (7Dec2010)
Here are a few of the dangers.
EARTHQUAKE: Every 80 years on the average, there is an earthquake of 6 or more on the Richter scale. The last one took place in 1927 – 83 years ago. A government survey announced that of 650,000 structures in the country, there are 96,000 residential buildings (mostly large apartment complexes) in danger of collapsing in the event of a massive earthquake – most built before 1980 when the government introduced the international standards for earthquakes.
In 2005 a nationwide program was announced to give financial incentives to reinforce older buildings – so far a few dozen have been repaired.
HIZBULLAH ATTACK: Hizbullah has in its possession 45,000 rockets which could produce multiple megafires in forests and in urban and suburban areas. Where is the plan to totally reorganize the infrastructure and expand fire-fighting equipment and personnel?
IRANIAN ATTACK: A national home front emergency command center needs to be operative, coordinating police, homefront security, firefighters and security agencies. No such infrastructure exists. Yet the danger of a nuclear or biological attack is real.
HOSPITALS: Great lack of hospital beds (1.98 per 1,000 residents compared to 5.7 in Germany.) Lack of medical staff because of low pay. What if war resulted in hundreds or thousands of wounded Israelis? No plan in place.
AIRPORT SAFETY: To Israel's embarrassment, the U.S. FAA has downgraded Israel to Category 2 in safety rating – in particular its regulation of light, private and sports aviation, and because Israel does not have an alternative to Ben-Gurion Airport for handling operational irregularities. Why wait for a disaster?
WATER: Israel is out of water. This summer the water level of the Sea of Galilee is expected to go below the black line – a level that experts say will cause irreversible damage to the lake. The coastal aquifers will become saline when the fresh water level drops low enough to mix with the salt water seeping in from the Mediterranean. Many articles have been written about creating an emergency water plan to cover the next two years until new desalination plants begin operating. The Israeli people are still waiting for the government to act.
by Peter Tsukahira
The Carmel Assembly, a Messianic congregation, is on the edge of the Druze village Isfiya. It ishere, a few minutes walk from their property, that a Druze teenager carelessly started the terrible forest fire.
Carmel Assembly is known as a praying congregation. Four couples lead the congregation and spend great amounts of time in prayer. The Messianic congregation meets in their building built near where Elijah prayed down fire from heaven to prove to the Israeli people that the God of Israel is the true God.
Early Tuesday morning, two days before the fire, Peter Tsukahira, one of the leaders, had a dream which he retells.
As I was waking up on Tuesday morning I had a very vivid dream. I was standing in the parking lot of our ministry center (where we also house about 40 African refugees and staff) and I saw a small private plane fly low and dive over the roof of our congregational worship center.
There was a loud explosion and when I ran to a place where I could see over the top of the worship center there was a huge pillar of fire, burning like a furnace, rising from the forest beyond.
As I looked, there was another column of fire and smoke rising about two kilometers beyond it.
I ran to alert our staff but then I realized I was in a bathrobe and needed to get dressed first! Then I woke up.
The fire broke out on Thursday morning and when my wife Rita and I stood on the roof of the worship center that evening watching the flames approach, I told her, "This is exactly what I saw in my dream!"
Later, when other countries sent help to Israel in order to put out the fire, the sky over our ministry center was literally filled with small and large private planes dropping water and fire-retardant chemicals on the forest.
If the winds had blown eastward, our buildings and much of the Druze village would have gone up in flames. Even though we were evacuated, we continued to pray that God would protect His property. In so doing, His protection extended to Isfiya, the Druze village.
The fact of my being in a bathrobe leads me to believe that God is warning all of us to be prepared for greater testing to come. Yeshua taught that the end times would be characterized by "wars and rumors of wars" but that these were just the beginnings of "birth pangs."
During the fire our buildings were without water and electricity. Our cell phones became useless as the batteries died. The generator we had for emergencies didn't function properly. We did not have enough flashlights.
The people of Israel are very concerned for the future.
One journalist wrote, "There are a great many reasons to avoid war. This week, we discovered another one: the home front is not prepared – and it's hard to believe it ever will be prepared. The next war won't be another picnic somewhere over there on a distant front... the next war will have no winners, only victims." (Haaretz, 9Dec2010)
In these last few days, we have been through a crisis that was like a war – a single birth pang. God sheltered us and no one was hurt. But it was like a dry run for us. The next crisis will undoubtedly be worse and we, the Messianic community of Israel, need to be prepared – spiritually and physically.
Our nation will be looking for answers and we must be ready for whatever God calls us to do.
Peter and Rita Tsukahira are co-founders of Carmel Assembly.Rita is a member of the Maoz board.www.carmel-assembly.org.il
by Asher Intrater
Crises and threats of crises are part of daily life in Israel – last month the worst forest fire in the history of Israel, five days later the most destructive storm to hit our shores in 50 years – after nine months of no rain.
The danger of nuclear weapons in the hands of irrational regimes, such as North Korea and Iran, continues. The imminent risk of the walls of Mosques on the Temple Mount collapsing could cause a cataclysmic upheaval in the Muslim world.
Also last month one of the largest cell phone networks in Israel shut down inexplicably for 24 hours. The collapse of worldwide information, communication, or banking networks could happen one day.
Revelation 8:7 –The first angel sounded: hail and fire mixed with blood were thrown to the earth. A third of the trees were burned up…
Obviously we haven't reached the level of disasters as noted even in the first trumpet. However we are moving in that direction. World disasters will become increasingly more intense. One day there will be a war that will kill one third of the world population.
Revelation 9:15-16 -…were released to kill a third of mankind. Now the number of the army of the horsemen was 200,000,000. I heard the number.
A third of mankind would be approximately two billion people. An army of two hundred million willattack. Numbers for an army that size and the numbers killed of that size could potentially be fulfilled by an Islamic Jihad war against India-China-South East Asia. (Interestingly, the passage speaks of the origin of the army in the Euphrates area – verse 14.)
Revelation 3:10 - … I will protect you from the hour of trial which will come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell upon the earth.
This verse does not mean that God will remove us from the planet, but that He will protect us during trials and tribulations. There is a specific time coming of worldwide disaster.
The word "hour" does not mean 60 minutes; it does mean that the time will be relatively short, and it will be controlled and limited. Worldwide disaster is coming; it will be limited in time; God will protect us.
God does not call crises "disaster," but "testing." Despite the hardship and suffering, there will be a hidden purpose of God. There is one purpose toward "non-believers" and another for "believers." Although most unbelievers will not respond correctly, God's purpose is to convince them to repent of wickedness.
Revelation 9:20 - >…the rest of mankind did not repent...
Revelation 9:21 -…they did not repent...
God's purpose for the faithful believers is to forge them and refine them for their special destiny.
Revelation 5:9-10 –You are worthy to take the scroll, and to open its seals; and have redeemed us to God by Your blood out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation; and have made us kings and priests to our God; and we shall reign on the earth.
The scroll of God contains His plan. The seals mean that this plan is hidden to most people. Yeshua, who opens the seals, brings God's plan to come to pass. He reveals that plan to those who serve Him. This verse explains several key elements:
God has a plan. Things are not "going out of control." God's plan is not a spontaneous reaction to circumstances, but one that is prepared before hand.
Yeshua is the victor. He opens the seals. He conquers sin and Satan; death and hell. He is the leader of the kingdom. He is the Lion of the tribe of Judah (verse 5).
We have a destiny. God is using the end times difficulties to purify and strengthen the heart of the righteous to be a special people, as priests and kings (spiritual and government leaders).
We will reign with Him. Our destiny is to rule in the world together with Yeshua. It is difficult now, but it will be worth it in the end.
Revelation 20:4 -… They lived and reigned with Messiah for a thousand years.
We face times of increasing tribulation in the end times. Those tribulations are a judgment against the world; a purification of the Church; a preparation of a special people for God; and a warning for people of every nation to repent. The tribulations of the end times culminate in a massive world war in which all the nations attack Israel (Zechariah 14).
At that time Yeshua will return as the head of the Church, the king of Israel, and the commander of Heaven's army.
At that time the dead will be raised; the devil will be incarcerated; and the kingdom of God set up on earth for a thousand years, with its capital in Jerusalem. After that there will come an even better world, the New Creation and New Jerusalem.
Revelation 21:3-4 –The tabernacle of God is with men, and He will dwell with them… God will wipe away every tear… There will be no more death, nor sorrow, nor crying.
There will be a perfect world for eternity. The Garden of Eden will be restored. Tribulation is temporary while paradise is permanent. Let us be strong in our faith and endure to end.
Asher Intrater is leader of Congregation Ahavat Yeshua and director of Revive Israel Ministries.www.revive-israel.org
January 2010
Dear Maoz Partner,
Happy New Year!
We have had the privilege of fighting the good fight of faith together for 35 years. What lessons we have learned – and they are many! – we can pass on to the Israeli pastors and leaders who need and want mentoring.
We have found that by cooperating with other ministries – whether for outreach or humanitarian needs – we can accomplish much more than if we work by ourselves.
Anyone ministering for the Lord in Israel – and for that matter anyone in training for service – must prepare for mega tests and trials.
And we know the greater the testing, the greater fruit we can expect to see as the Lord proves us through His refining fire.
If ever there is a place that "the laborers are few," it is Israel. And we have found the surest way to raise up solid Godly leaders is to concentrate our efforts within the local Israeli community – because they know the language and the culture.
Through our Congregation Tiferet Yeshua, we are training young people to be servants of the Messiah, whether they are in full-time ministry, the marketplace ,the army or still attending school or university.
Whether it is translating books, helping the poor, or mentoring leaders, it is our joy to receive the gifts that you, our co-laborer send us, and to invest them in building the Body of believers here in the Land.
But most important of all – and this is foremost in our minds at all times – we look for ways to share the Gospel with "every creature" in Israel. We always search for more opportunities to make disciples in this harvest field.
For what does it profit a person if he gains the whole world but loses his own soul? The soul of this nation – for which Yeshua died – is our foremost calling.
Pray for the salvation of Israel. And if you are not already, become a vital, regular partner with Maoz throughout this coming year.
When Israel comes into her spiritual inheritance, the Bible promises over and over that it will ignite great revival throughout the nations of the world.
According to the prophets, Israel is the center of God's "operations" to redeem all who will come.
We ask you to be a part of our team this year!
Your fellow laborers for Israel's salvation, Ari & Shira Sorko-Ram


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IT'S TRUE: Most people would probably say that, if one is indulging in a swank hotel package, one should leave the computer and technology and the busy workaday world behind. But, if presented with the Geek Chic Package at the Garden Court Hotel in Palo Alto, most people might clap and jump up and down and say "oh, oh, me! Want! Yes, please!" Should we start with the zeppelin ride? There's a zeppelin ride that's part of this deal. You don't see that attached to your everyday hotel deal. Smart types love zeppelins, given the fact that they remain one of the most elegant and storied methods of air travel ever. If you look down from the zeppelin, and we expect you will, you shall see Silicon Valley. This feels pre-epic to us. A rather historic mode of transportation high above the beating heart of technoworld. Love.
MORE TO THE DEAL: There's also a GPS route that'll lead you to Google and the legendary HP garage and the Apple Company Store. Hold on. Apple. Yep. We've heard of it. Oh, we josh. We want to go to the Apple Company Store! You'll also receive two tickets to the Computer History Museum and two t-shirts. Everybody but everybody will ask you where they can get one, we bet. Oh, and on top of it all? Accommodations at pretty Garden Court. You really can stow your laptop for the night, once you've spent a day soaking in all of that Silicon-y wonder.
THE PRICE: It's $1,299, with the usual additionals. The date you'll be able to book depends on the Airship Ventures schedule; Airship Ventures would be the company behind the zeppelins. Don't you love having your getaway is determined by a plump, seemingly lighter-than-air ship? If only our entire calendar could be zeppelin-dependent. It would probably make delays and cancellations so much easier to weather.


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Washington: Improving labour market conditions lifted US consumer confidence to an eight month high in December, but persistently weak house prices remain an obstacle to faster economic growth.
The sharp rise in sentiment reported by the Conference Board on Tuesday offered hope for a pick-up in consumer spending after an anemic performance in November.
"It suggests there is some real improvement in the economy. Consumer confidence really boils down to how people feel about the labor market," said Mark Vitner, a senior economist at Wells Fargo Securities in Charlotte, North Carolina.
The Conference Board's index of consumer confidence rose to 64.5 this month from 55.2 in November, beating economists' expectations for a reading of 58.3.
A separate report from Standard & Poor's/Case-Shiller showed house prices in 20 major metropolitan areas declined 1.2 percent on an unadjusted basis in October after falling 0.7 percent the prior month.
Other data offered a mixed picture of manufacturing this month, with the Dallas Federal Reserve saying factory activity weakened in its region.
But manufacturing in the central Atlantic region firmed after being flat in November as new orders and shipments increased, offsetting a modest decline in employment, the Richmond Fed said.
Still, consumers are increasingly upbeat. The Conference Board's present situation index jumped to a three-year high, with the expectations index the highest in seven months.
Last month's rise in consumer confidence largely reflects a better tone in the labor market. The unemployment rate dropped to a 2-1/2 year low in November and applications for first-time jobless benefits are the lowest since April 2008.
Despite the show of resilience, the debt crisis in Europe continues to cast a shadow over the US economy.
"This good news is likely to be tested in the new year by slowing global growth and ongoing risk from Europe," said Eric Green, chief economist at TD Securities in New York.
"Still, the stronger momentum going into year-end is for real and at face value puts the economy in better position to withstand what is sure to be stronger headwinds to growth in the first half of 2012."
Stocks on Wall Street ended little changed in light trading, while U.S. Treasury debt prices rose. The dollar weakened marginally against a basket of currencies.
Despite the persistent drop in prices, housing is becoming less of a drag on the economy. Demand for housing is picking up and home sales volumes have increased in recent months.
Builders have been breaking more ground on new residential projects and home construction is expected to add to U.S. gross domestic product next year. If so, it would be the first increase since the second quarter of 2010.
"While some other housing indicators have improved over the past few months, we have yet to see most house prices measures pick up," said Daniel Silver, an economist at JPMorgan in New York.
With the labour market improving, housing could get some support. In the Conference Board survey, consumers' outlook of job market conditions brightened significantly.
The share of consumers viewing jobs as "plentiful" rose to 6.7 percent this month from 5.6 percent in November. The proportion of those viewing jobs as "hard to get" slipped to 41.8 percent from 43 percent in November.
These are the best readings for both components since January 2009.
"Households are beginning to perceive an improvement in the labour market," said Carl Riccadonna, a senior US economist at Deutsche Bank.
"This could provide an important contribution to what we think may be a burgeoning positive feedback loop of improving confidence, rising consumption, expanding output and additional income growth."
The share of consumers anticipating more jobs in the months ahead rose to 13.3 percent from 12.4 percent, while those expecting fewer jobs declined to 20.2 percent from 23.8 percent.
More consumers are expecting their incomes to increase, with that proportion rising to 17.1 percent from 14.1 percent in November.
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Salsa de Chile Pasilla de Oaxaca – Version Two
The smoked chile pasilla de Oaxaca, or chile Mixe ( pronounced, mee-hay) is unique to the state of Oaxaca. It imparts a fiery, smokey flavour to salsas, chiles rellenos, and vinegary condiments for the table. Used in a cooked tomatillo salsa, it's exquisite with grilled meats, served alongside chips or tostadas with fresh cheese, or even topped onto scrambled eggs nestled inside a hot corn tortilla.
The following salsa recipe is one of the easiest around, and was a table salsa used in a friend's Oaxacan restaurant, where I helped out for a brief time. It was served with tlayudas, those large sized tortillas made with various kinds of corn masa, from golden yellow to deep blue, heirloom of course. Slow food at its finest. Carried in woven baskets expertly balanced on their heads, a coterie of women would drop by the restaurant once a week with their freshly made, still warm tlayudas for sale.
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Thanks for this recipe. It matches almost exactly ones I collected from three different cooking schools in Oaxaca. As you must know, finding miltomatillos (the small green and purple tomatillos found in southern Mexico) and often recommended in Oaxacan recipes are very difficult to find in the US, at least in the northeast. So your providing guidance for 1 lb of tomatillos is helpful. Similarly, here in Virginia I have been unable to find a source for pasilla de Oaxaca chiles until recently. Then I found a source and was able to buy them 1 lb bags. At $55.75 per pound they are expensive but authentic.I will share my source: Spices Inc at http://www.Spicesinc.com.


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Music is a vital part of worship. The scriptures instruct us to "Make a joyful noise unto the Lord . . . come before His presence with singing" (Psalm 100). We're even told to "play skillfully with a shout of joy" (Psalm 33:3). Those involved with our music ministry teams strive for just that, to place God first in our worship, directing our musical offerings to Him, and encouraging others to worship fully all while doing our best to "play skillfully." If you are new to our church and visit on a Sunday morning, be sure to pick up a Welcome Packet that includes a CD of our music teams "in action."
Contact Steve Nahlik, Director of Music Ministry, for additional info on any of the groups below and to arrange a time to meet.
Our worship team leads us in song every Sunday. This group is currently made up of various musicians and focuses on contemporary worship music styles, including songs from Hillsong, Jesus Culture, Matt Redman, Paul Baloche, Kari Jobe and Gateway Worship, David Crowder and many others. This group rehearses on Wednesday evenings (7:00-9:00 PM) in the sanctuary.
Our Choir sings at various times throughout the year and focuses on a mix of contemporary worship songs, hymns, and traditional choral anthems. This group rehearses on Thursday evenings (7:00-8:30 PM) in the Church Parlor or Sanctuary.
Our Handbell Choir plays for special services including Thanksgiving Eve, Christmas Eve, Easter and Music Mininstry Sunday, as well as special outreaches. This group typically rehearses on Thursday evenings (6:00-7:00 PM) in the sanctuary 3-4 weeks before each particular service.
The Youth Praise Band is made up of teens in Grades 7-12. They lead worship at youth group meetings and in church on an occasional Sunday. An audition and signing the Youth Praise Band code of conduct is required.


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Many travellers are searching for Things To Do Hua Hin With Toddlers, Most of the activities to do in Hua Hin are geared towards family fun by the seaside. Most Thais view Hua Hin as an elegant and romantic gateway holiday destination, which is a notion that started close to a Century ago when the well-to-do and members of the Royal Family would spend their holidays there. Due to this, you will find countless beautiful seaside villas, houses, and various attractive vintage summer palaces lining the Hua Hin landscape. You can find Things To Do Hua Hin With Toddlers travel information.
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Things To Do Hua Hin With Toddlers, Typically, Hua Hin is stuffed with people having a break through the crazy Bangkok lifestyle on weekends and because it is only a short drive away, it offers retained its popularity. The towns charming feel could very well be the very best attraction of Hua Hin. Here are the very best 10 things to do in Hua Hin.
Maruekhathaiyawan Palace (Cha-Am)
This season seaside palace like most of Hua Hin was constructed in the early 1920s during King Rama VIs reign. An Italian architect designed it and it features latticework, many verandahs, and also covered boardwalks. One of the many charming options that come with the complex can be a beautiful passage in the boardwalks ultimately causing the ocean.
Cicada Market
Cicada Market offers handmade crafts, art, and great times. With its open-air market concept, Cicada brings Hua Hins artistic talents together in addition to the ones that love being able to express themselves freely. Besides the crafts market, you will also look for a beer garden, art gallery, and live music.
Khao Takiab
In Prachuab Kirikhan province, Khao Takiab is among the greatest attractions. A translation of Khao Takiab is Chopstick Mountain nevertheless, you might hear people think of it as Monkey Mountain due to monkeys living upon it. The Mountain also houses a hilltop temple with amazing views of Hua Hin. A large bell sits at the start of the hike approximately the temple accompanied by your flight of stairs on the main shrine forming a pagoda-like structure.
Santorini park Cha-Am
Santorini Park succeeds in bringing a bit of the attractive Greek Island to Cha-Am. They have were able to get every piece of information right including the colorfully painted windows, classic whitewashed buildings, to the domed towers and stone-paved paths. An incredible lineup of restaurants, shops, and the amusement park implies that good times are in store for all those.
The Venezia Hua Hin
The newest attraction and theme shopping village in Hua Hin will be the Venezia. It follows the expansion in popularity and visible success of other similar weekend destinations in Thailand. Kao Yais Palio was probably one of many triggers for the epidemic frenzy for beautiful villages combined with Hua Hins Santorini Park, and Bangkoks Asiatique.
Phraya Nakhon Cave
Just about the most mysterious and mystical landmarks of Thailand will be the magnificent Phraya Nakhon cave. However, only some travelers ever get the opportunity to snap a picture of this. The reason being quite easy: it is hidden in a difficult to reach cave and merely few dedicated visitors ever take the time to check out it. Those who do make an effort arrive at like a stunning view resembling something from a scene inside an Indiana Jones movie. The cave is found from the Khao Sam Roi Yot National park, that is a 45-minute drive south of Hua Hin. To reach the cave you first of all must drive to a small village of Bang Pu sitting by the beach and following that you may take a boat or trek. The trek is a half-hour over the hill which leads towards the Laem Sala beach.
Black Mountain Water Park
Black Mountain Water Park promises to offer a fun-filled day for everyone wanting to get a big splash including families. This park has 9 different water slides, beach pool, lazy river, kids pool, a wave pool, and much more. Many of these are positioned on a vast mountain hugging landscape that fronts a male-made lake about 10 km north of Hua Hin. A similar people behind the Black Mountain Golf Course are the ones that own and manage water park and it is the best attraction within their portfolio. It is situated opposite the golf course, with a local road passing through Baan Silapin and Wat Huay Mongkol.
Plearn Wan Shopping Village
This themed shopping complex is positioned not faraway from Klai Kang Won Palace. It unique brown wooden building has multiple shops, a caf้, and guestrooms all decorated in 1960s Thai style. The complex is open daily for dining and shopping from about 10:00. The village is famous for its live music, nang klang plaeng or outside movies, and temple fair festival running every evening from Friday to Sunday.
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Hua Hin Railway Station
The Hua Hin Railway station was constructed throughout the reign of King Rama VI. It is just a short distance from the center of town. The railway station in addition to the adjacent royal waiting room are indisputably beautiful. The brightly painted wooden buildings are Thai in design and concept and somehow manage to get a Victorian feel directly to them. You should go take a look at the railway station even when you dont arrive by train. It is actually photogenic, quirky, and charming.
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The embattled Senior Advocate of Nigeria, Mr. Rickey Tarfa has withdrawn the N5billion fundamental rights violation suit he filed against the Economic and Financial Crimes
Commission (EFCC) and four others. The senior lawyer had filed the suit, alleging
violation of his right to privacy by the respondents. Following the withdrawal of the suit, the
trial judge, Justice Mohammed Idris awarded a punitive cost of N10, 000
against Tarfa in favour of each of the five respondents.
Apart from the EFCC and its Acting Chairman, Ibrahim Magu, the other respondents include Mrs. Rashidatou Abdou, Mr. Femi Falana (SAN) and MTN Nigeria Communications Limited.
Tarfa had filed the suit following his arrest on February 5 by EFCC operatives
on the premises of the Lagos State High Court in Igbosere, where he allegedly hid
two suspects in his car to prevent their arrest. His two mobile phones and his Mercedez
Benz SUV with Registration No. KJA 700 CG, were confiscated by the EFCC.
Tarfa alleged that the respondentsviolated his right to privacy by allegedly
scrutinising his call logs. He therefore urged the court to declare that the
respondents violated his right protected by Section 37 of the Constitution, when, without a court order, MTN allegedly made the call log on his mobile line, 08034600000 , available to the EFCC and the others respondents, who in turn allegedly released the information to Sahara Reporters and other online media.
He had also urged the court to hold that the respondents acted unlawfully when they accessed his bank details, clients' information, private and confidential information contained in his iPhone 6
and Samsung 6 without a court order or any reasonable cause. He had urged the court to award N5bn
damages against the respondents in his favour, stressing that no amount of money could adequately redress the "unquantifiable and irreparable damage done to him, his reputation, his business and his goodwill." But a lawyer from his chambers, Olatunde Oladele, appeared before Justice Idris yesterday with an ex parte application to discontinue the case. Oladele gave no reason for Tarfa's
decision to withdraw the case however a source gave the information that the telecommunication giant, already encumbered with crisis, is considering the option of out of court settlement with the senior advocate in order not to add to its existing controversies.
Counsel to EFCC, Mr. Wahab Shittu and Rotimi Oyedepo, who also appeared in
court, said they were not opposed to the withdrawal of the suit but urged the court to award a punitive cost against Tarfa.
"My Lord, we have no objection to the discontinuance of the suit but we want the court to award a punitive cost against the applicant; our names have been flying around in the major newspapers since yesterday," Shittu said. But Oladele argued that the EFCC's lawyers had no right of reply because his
application was an ex parte application. Besides, he said the respondents could not be demanding for cost because Tarfa had not served them with the suit.
But Shittu argued that since the filing of the suit was widely reported in the newspapers, it was tantamount to serving the respondents by substituted means. In a short ruling, Justice Idris struck out
the suit and ordered Tarfa to pay a cost of N10, 000 to each of the respondents.


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The headline: Bahama-Based Billionaire Joseph Lewis Takes 7% Stake In Bear Stearns.
Dylan Ratigan explains that Lewis is a British-born billionaire who made his fortune as a currency trader and during the 1990s, Lewis bought 30% of Christie's in an attempt to take the auction house private Now, he's purchased a 7% stake in Bear Stearns to become company's largest shareholder.
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