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Saturday, April 9, 2011
Pink Grapefruit Smoothie and Other Blushing Beauties
From the kitchen of One Perfect Bite...I've been saving recipes for Pink Saturday for several weeks now. I was, however, uncomfortable about sharing them until I had a recipe of my own to use as a lead-in for the post. I didn't want to republish something you had already seen, so things stalled for a while. Then I remembered this very simple smoothie. It is a perfect drink for spring and early summer and the tangy grapefruit sipper is a wonderful way to start the day. It has fabulous color, great taste and, with just three ingredients, is very easy to make. It you like a bit of tang to start your day, I think you'll love smoothie. Here's the recipe.
Pink Grapefruit Smoothie...from the kitchen of One Perfect Bite
1 cup ruby red grapefruit
1/3 cup frozen strawberries
1 large scoop frozen plain or vanilla yogurt
Place all ingredients in the jar of an electric blender. Process until smooth. Serve immediately.
One Year Ago Today: Carrot Timbales
Two Years Ago Today: Rhubarb and Raspberry Gelato
Click on the names to the right of the photographs below to see the recipe and the original post.
Pink Lemonade Cupcakes - The Doctor's Dishes
Pink Meringue Butterfly Kisses - Mowielicious
Hey Everybunny - Bakerella
Think Pink Macarons - Life's A Feast
Coconut Strawberry and Rose Rice Pudding - Un déjeuner de Soleil
Raspberry and Rose Panna Cotta - Menu Turitico
Dulce de Leche Cake Pops - Baker's Royale
Pink Lace Hearts and Rabbit Cookies - Katie's Something Sweet
Pink Lemonade Cupcakes - Today's Nest
Pink Tropical Island Iced Tea - Sippity Sup
Raspberry Rose Souffle - Life is Great
This post is being linked to:
Pink Saturday, sponsored by Beverly at How Sweet the Sound.
81 comments :
- Grace said...
Pink goodies I love it! Everything looks so fabulous I wanted to jump through the screen and eat and drink. Happy Pink Saturday Grace xoox
- April 8, 2011 at 7:14 PM
- Cooking Creation said...
I love pink and I love sweets and I LOVE LOVE them together! The pink lemonade cupcakes are so intriguing to me. Thanks for sharing!
- April 8, 2011 at 7:19 PM
- Martha said...
They all look wonderful. And the smoothie looks like a must try. Thanks for sharing the recipe.
- April 8, 2011 at 7:21 PM
- GLENDA CHILDERS said...
The smoothie sounds like just the ticket for a great morning start. Love all the other pink things, too. Happy Pink Saturday.
Glenda - April 8, 2011 at 7:27 PM
- Wendy Irene said...
The picture of the smoothie looks beautiful! Happy Weekend :)
- April 8, 2011 at 7:28 PM
I absolutely love all of these pink recipes! Yum!
- April 8, 2011 at 7:37 PM
- The Quintessential Magpie said...
Happy Pink Saturday, dear Mary! This is not only a delicius post, but a pretty one, too. I adore pink. It just makes me feel good. What would make me feel better, though, is if I could reach through the screen and help myself to those goodies! ;-)
Did I return to thank you for your recipe. I hope I did because I appreciate you and your thoughtfulness always.
Happy Pink Saturday, Mary!
Sheila :-) - April 8, 2011 at 7:48 PM
- San said...
Delicious smoothie and an awesome pic .I really loved all the other pink desserts and dishes .
- April 8, 2011 at 7:49 PM
- Renee Paj said...
what a lovely lineup of pink recipes!!!
I am not much of a smoothie person...but this ONE entices me! I want to sip it right now! Sounds so unique and refreshing! - April 8, 2011 at 7:50 PM
- Beloved Green said...
That smoothie looks delightful! Love all the pale pinks together, just lovely.
- April 8, 2011 at 8:01 PM
- Nina Timm said...
This one is for us girls, right? All pretty in pink. I love the idea of a grapefruit smoothie, I can almost feel the tang in my mouth!!
- April 8, 2011 at 8:22 PM
- Ginny Hartzler said...
This is a feast for the eyes. Matter of fact, these are really too pretty to eat!! I just like to look at them and not spoil their beauty.
- April 8, 2011 at 8:34 PM
- Claudia said...
Raspberry rose souffle - how grand! Now back to the smoothie - do you know I have never used anything but berries in my smoothies. What a creature of habit I have become. The ruby grapefruit just adds a little zest to the palate. Grand idea.
- April 8, 2011 at 8:49 PM
- suesueb said...
Another great recipe that I'll be sure to try! A good friend gave me the most delicious grapefruits and I love smoothies when the weather is warm. All the other recipes look scrumptious too so I'll be sure to link on them. Hope you have a beautiful pink weekend!
- April 8, 2011 at 8:57 PM
- DEIDRE said...
THANKS...now I'm craving PINK SWEETS! DEIDRE great shots!!!
- April 8, 2011 at 9:05 PM
- LV said...
After that pink showing, our sweet tooth should be having a fit. Never saw so many good looking, tasty pinks in one place.
- April 8, 2011 at 9:10 PM
- Joanne said...
I LOOOVVEE grapefruits and really can't get enough of them! This smoothie looks fantastic! And all those pink recipes are so cute!
- April 8, 2011 at 9:18 PM
Hi Mary! All of them look so wonderful! Couldn't bear to eat any of these beauties if i were you!
- April 8, 2011 at 9:20 PM
- bj said...
O, Mr. Sweet and I love grapefruit sooo much and can't eat or drink them due to meds. BUMMER..
Come over for a try at the cutest little enamel house sign giveaway.
Click on the giveaway button at the top of my blog, beneath the header.
Good luck. - April 8, 2011 at 9:21 PM
- Unknown said...
I just gained 40# reading ... sounds deelish. Have to give this a try.
Have a sweet PS weekend ~
FUN GIVEAWAY ends 4/10 - April 8, 2011 at 9:40 PM
- dana said...
You are just the BEST!! I love the smoothie idea.....and ALL of the wonderful other links you shared!! Thank you!!
Hope you have a wonderful Pink Saturday!!!
dana - April 8, 2011 at 10:14 PM
- Cornelius the Pig said...
i love the pink theme! of course, maybe i'm a little biased because i am a pig...
- April 8, 2011 at 10:34 PM
- Katarina said...
Great with pink recipes :) Have a nice weekend!
- April 8, 2011 at 10:46 PM
- Just a Girl said...
That smoothie looks so citrus-y and good, I will be making that at some point! :) I love all the other Pink recipes you've shared, how fun! Pink is such a happy color, I never used to like it, but it's grown on me.
have a delightful evening!
~Just a Girl - April 8, 2011 at 10:55 PM
- Victor said...
It's a bit funny, my last cooking theme was any dishes that are red and white, when combined it makes. I highly suggested my friend to make something pink none has dare to make it. It didn't cross my minds any dishes that are pink...Great pink goodies!
- April 8, 2011 at 11:11 PM
- Kim said...
WOW! It's like heaven for a girl in here, all that pink, so beautiful. I love all of these treats!
- April 8, 2011 at 11:13 PM
- Unknown said...
Delicious and fabulous pinks recipes!
Happy Pink Saturday!
Charo - April 9, 2011 at 12:18 AM
- Banana Wonder said...
Love the pink drink!
- April 9, 2011 at 1:02 AM
- Terri Morse said...
The smoothie recipe sounds divine! Have a lovely weekend! Terri
- April 9, 2011 at 1:35 AM
- cocoa and coconut said...
Mmm all that pink deliciousness! Your smoothie is healthy and refreshing; something that I love in a recipe. Thanks for sharing Mary
- April 9, 2011 at 1:43 AM
- Chiara said...
I really love pink, it's a feast for me Mary!Great idea the links you shared, thank you...have a great weekend,blessings...
- April 9, 2011 at 1:46 AM
- Duncan D. Horne - the Kuantan blogger said...
I cloyed myself on some turquoise coloured macarons at the Zenith Hotel food sampling session a while back. They were absolutely gorgeous! Yours look equally as appealing.
Duncan In Kuantan - April 9, 2011 at 4:00 AM
- Big Dude said...
When I looked away I still saw pink. The smoothie sounds delicious and I'll pass it on to the family smoothie person.
- April 9, 2011 at 4:14 AM
- Deb in Hawaii said...
I love that combination of pink grapefruit and strawberries--very unique and delicious.
So many pretty pink dishes! ;-) - April 9, 2011 at 4:38 AM
- Maris (In Good Taste) said...
Thanks for bringing back these great recipes. This smoothie is a must try for me!
- April 9, 2011 at 6:20 AM
- Linda Starr said...
You're in the pink today, that top one is just in time for the weather here which is heating up. the rest are feasts for the eyes and the belly.
- April 9, 2011 at 6:26 AM
- Lynn said...
Everything's so pretty Mary! Thanks for sharing:@)
- April 9, 2011 at 6:44 AM
- Priya Suresh said...
Soo pretty and wonderful looking pink beauties..Smoothie tempts me a lot..
- April 9, 2011 at 7:41 AM
- Deana Sidney said...
I've never thought of a grapefruit smoothy... or grapefruit and strawberry.... it sounds so refreshing... lovely!
- April 9, 2011 at 7:50 AM
- Ben said...
Beautiful, Mary. And I love the idea of Pink Saturday! Grapefruit really is an under-appreciated ingredient, isn't it? (It makes a very interesting swap for lemon in a lot of recipes.)
http://kissthecook-ben.blogspot.com/ - April 9, 2011 at 8:03 AM
- Suman Singh said...
Wow, this is such a wonderful great to my eyes..everything out there look so pretty and yummy..difficult to resist now..mmm..just awesome!
- April 9, 2011 at 8:05 AM
- Clint said...
It is now 7:15 AM, and I am ready for breakfast---and this looks totally wonderful.
- April 9, 2011 at 8:17 AM
- A Paixão da Isa said...
hummm mas que bom ja comia um pouco de tudo pois tudo é bom de mais gostei beijinhos e bom fim de semana
- April 9, 2011 at 8:33 AM
- Rita said...
What a beautiful post; everything looks so good and tempting. Grat phots and recipes; thank you.
Rita - April 9, 2011 at 8:37 AM
- Celia said...
I love the pink theme, and the use of grapefruit! I often find smoothies too sweet; I'm sure this is a great way to get some tartness in there...
- April 9, 2011 at 8:40 AM
- Elaine said...
Pink Saturday?! I love it! Everything looks beautiful.
- April 9, 2011 at 9:19 AM
- Pam said...
Love all that pink! It all looks wonderful! Happy Pink Saturday!
- April 9, 2011 at 10:33 AM
- Sanjeeta kk said...
What a gorgeous pink spread, Mary! Love all your scrumptious creations.
- April 9, 2011 at 10:38 AM
- Dru said...
Love ALL your pinks today and I'm going to have to try the smoothie - I love pink grapefruit!! Happy Pink Saturday to you!
- April 9, 2011 at 11:33 AM
- Nicole@HeatOvenTo350 said...
Such pretty treats! That grapefruit drink sounds wonderful. I love how simple it is.
- April 9, 2011 at 11:53 AM
- Heather at Kitchen Concoctions said...
Hey Mary, thanks for stopping by my blog! I love the Grapefruit Smoothie it sounds so fresh and tasty. Also love all the other pink inspired goodies!
- April 9, 2011 at 12:48 PM
- Alina said...
Pink Saturday? What a lovely idea :) That coconut strawberry rose rice pudding sounds tremendous! Thank you for sharing your great collection of pink desserts! And of course the smoothie - i LOVE smoothies and I'll try mixing grapefruit with frozen strawberries next time... never tried it before!
- April 9, 2011 at 1:00 PM
- Gloria Baker said...
Love pink!! and all these look amazing and delicious, Happy pink Saturday I love them! gloria
- April 9, 2011 at 1:03 PM
- Corina said...
I love all your pink dishes. I feel more feminine just looking at them!
- April 9, 2011 at 1:17 PM
- Lucie said...
So much beautiful pink! Your smoothie sounds like a great way to start the day :)
- April 9, 2011 at 1:29 PM
- Carol @ There's Always Thyme to Cook said...
Great looking smoothie! Perfectly pink!
So many delicious pink dishes! - April 9, 2011 at 1:33 PM
- Michelle said...
Hi Mary, happy ps. Fantastic post today. I am going to try this smoothie for breakfast tomorrow, I have a terrible headcold and it just sounds and looks soooooo good. I can't wait to try many of the other's you shared also, that macaroon is calling my name.
- April 9, 2011 at 1:49 PM
- Barbara said...
Definitely pink, Mary! :)
I'm crazy about grapefruit, have it every morning of my life. And I often have a smoothie mid afternoon made with frozen strawberries. Going to add grapefruit today! - April 9, 2011 at 2:41 PM
- Jocie's Mom said...
Okay, I'm a big supporter of Pink Saturdays! I'm loving the bunnies and the pink iced tea. Brilliant.
And I totally dig the dummy-proof smoothie :) - April 9, 2011 at 3:13 PM
- From the Kitchen said...
I've clicked on all of them and still can't decide. I have a hard time passing up anything pink.
Bonnie - April 9, 2011 at 3:31 PM
All I can say is beautiful, beautiful, beautiful!! I so enjoyed this lovely post.
x - April 9, 2011 at 5:15 PM
- Ana Rita Marreiros said...
They are all lovelly and delicious!!
Rita - April 9, 2011 at 6:08 PM
- Tanna said...
What a beautiful collection of "pink" recipes! Thank you so much, Mary. The Pink Grapefruit Smoothie sounds very refreshing on a hot summer morning! blessings ~ tanna
- April 9, 2011 at 6:25 PM
- ~Lavender Dreamer~ said...
I love pink grapefruit! I'll try this recipe! Thanks! ♥
- April 9, 2011 at 8:40 PM
Hi again Mary,
I was wondering if I could put you on my blogroll? I love your blog and your recipes are absolutely wonderful. I hope this is ok with you!
Best wishes
Mary - April 9, 2011 at 8:51 PM
- Unknown said...
These pink treats look simply wonderful! The Grapefruit smoothie sounds particularly delicous :-)
- April 9, 2011 at 9:00 PM
- Catherine said...
This post is delightful! I love the color pink! Such a happy color...everything looks delicious..and refreshing. Blessings and have a wonderful weekend Mary. Catherine xo
- April 9, 2011 at 9:48 PM
You've given a whole meaning to 'PINK' Mary & I love it! I have to admit, for the first time- I love the color pink!
The smoothie sounds fabulous and healthy- such a perfect Spring treat! I am also loving the look of that Gelato- BIG YUM! :)
Tammy - April 9, 2011 at 10:16 PM
- Jean said...
they are too beautiful mary :) they are perfect recipes for reference for oct during breast cancer awareness month!
- April 9, 2011 at 10:40 PM
- mia xara said...
I have to say I am "tickled pink",Mary!I love pink grapefruit and everything made with it! Have a great Sunday!
- April 9, 2011 at 11:19 PM
- Candace said...
Such beautiful pink treats! The grapefruit smoothie looks so refreshing, Mary. I can't wait to give that a try and those lemonade cupcakes, as well. yuuum!
- April 10, 2011 at 12:20 AM
- Monet said...
I love pink, and I love grapefruit. Needless to say, this was the post made for me! Thank you so much for sharing your words and creativity with me tonight. During good times and bad, your blog always offers me a dose of joy. I hope you have a blessed and happy Sunday, my friend. Hugs from Austin!
- April 10, 2011 at 12:25 AM
- My Little Space said...
What a fantastic look of pink Saturday! Just so eye catching and girlie touch.
Kristy - April 10, 2011 at 2:57 AM
- Ruth said...
Yum yum yum - these all look fantastic!!
- April 10, 2011 at 6:23 AM
- Light and Voices said...
I'm frothing at the mouth for some of your Pink delights. I can day dream right? Take care.
See you next week.
Joyce M - April 10, 2011 at 1:03 PM
- Jori said...
Can't wait to try the grapefruit smoothie!
- April 10, 2011 at 6:43 PM
- That Girl said...
That smoothie sounds absolutely amazing. I want it now!
- April 11, 2011 at 1:12 PM
- Roz | La Bella Vita Cucina said...
What an assortment of beautiful pink treats! Thanks for sharing these great ideas and recipes! Bookmarked! I'm so glad that I'm following your lovely blog!
- April 11, 2011 at 2:58 PM
- sheila @ Elements said...
I HAVE to make this!!! Your photo makes me crave it right now! But I don't have any strawberries or grapefruit. *sigh* I can't wait to make it though!! It'll make for a perfectly pink breakfast!! :) *slurp* :) I'm visually drinking it...hope you don't mind. :)
- April 14, 2011 at 2:48 PM
- Beverly said...
Happy very belated Pink Saturday, Mary. Can you believe I am still trying to visit from last Saturday, and here it is again.♥
You know I am loving all of this delectable pink bliss. I wish I could have some of each. - April 15, 2011 at 1:46 PM
- The Lucky Wife said...
New to food blogging (since January) so did not know about Pink Saturday until finding your recipe through Foodie View! Our Strawberry Freeze post would have been perfect! Will have to check it out for next time.
Your smoothie looks and sounds delicious. I love pink foods, and I think the pink lemonade cupcakes sound wonderful also! - April 19, 2011 at 4:41 PM


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Into the Wild
Mileage: 31.3
October mileage: 531.5
Temperature upon departure: 39
Rainfall: 0.30"
Last weekend, Geoff and I went to see "Into the Wild" with several friends. As we were walking out of the theater, I was just about to rave about the movie when my friends lit into the film's subject, Chris McCandless. The conclusion they drew was that Chris was a "total douche" and the actor who played him was "not believable" but the movie was "OK."
We didn't have a chance to discuss it much further, but I wish we had. Of all of the books I've read, Chris McCandless is one of those literary figures that stuck with me, like Edward Abbey or the pseudonyms of Thomas Wolfe (because I'm drawn to creative nonfiction and biographies, most of my favorite literary characters were living, breathing people.) Like any favorite literary character, I saw pieces of myself in Chris McCandless and empathized with his pain and his joy. I read Jon Krakauer's book long after it dropped off the best-seller list. I missed most of the fallout and didn't follow the pre-release movie chatter. So I had no idea McCandless' life evoked so much widespread disdain. But it seems, if my friends' and coworkers' opinions are any indication, my view that Chris McCandless is "not a douche" puts me in a minority of Alaskans.
It makes sense to me that person is either going to identify with Chris McCandless, or they're not. What catches me off guard is the venom. Why hate him? Because he was stupid? (Given his success in his education, I think it would be hard to argue that he was stupid.) Because he was selfish? (Selfishness is such an omnipresent personality trait. I think it's arguable that everybody is selfish in their own way.) Because he was naive? (Also such a common and life-shaping quality that it's practically a virtue.) Because of the cruel way in which he cut off his family? (I think this is the great tragedy of the story, but I can step outside myself and recognize how a person could feel so alienated, and so trespassed against, that they felt they had no choice.)
Maybe people simply dislike him because he died, needlessly. People die of self-destructive means every day. People die from alcoholism and drug abuse; they drive recklessly and take dangerous chances. People make bad choices. People make fatal mistakes. But rarely do they draw so much ire ... or so much fame.
I wonder if that may be the anger's source ... the fame. What makes Chris McCandless so special? He certainly didn't do anything new or original, especially in the eyes of many Alaska settlers, who have been tromping off into the subarctic wilderness and making their own way for more than a century. The fact that McCandless was an outsider, and completely unprepared, makes his canonization all the more infuriating. So many Alaskans were successful in their own "into the wild" endeavors, and remained anonymous their entire lives. When Chris died, he lost his anonymity. And with that, he evolved into something like a patron saint to the vagabonds and vagrants at heart, the people who are disillusioned with society and curious about what it would be like to give up on it completely - but don't have the courage to do so.
I neither resent Chris McCandless's fame, nor do I think he's a "saint" or a "hero." I think he was a really compelling person who espoused some of the ideals I cherish (not unlike Edward Abbey) but took an extreme path I would never take. Extreme actions tend to evoke extreme reactions. Chris McCandless has a volatile place in American history because his simple but stark story causes us, whether consciously or subconsciously, to ask some unsettling questions of ourselves. His extreme convictions cause us to question our own faith. His extreme passion causes us to ask where our own passion lies. His extreme solitude causes us to take stock of our own relationships. His extreme death causes us to consider our own mortality. I think Chris angers us not because he failed in his quest to live what was, at least in his mind, a true existence. It's because he succeeded.
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I haven't read the book or watched the movie. I have read a long-ish article on Chris and the various commentaries on the web - so take my comments in that light.
The part I don't like about Chris' story is that if you really want to do something you believe in cool - whatever it is, but if you "really" do believe in something do the work required to be serious about it. He died because he didn't take the time and effort to learn the skills necessary to survive in the AK wilderness.
Imagine how you'd feel at a winter ultra bike race if you came across a rider that needed your help, some of your tools & spare parts - maybe a rescue and you find out the guy bought a Pugsley and decided to trace without doing his homework. He didn't train properly or pack the right gear. He just showed up and decided to wing it.
Funny thing is it reminds me of another story about the fellow who walked around the coast of Baja. He succeeded [luckily] and wrote a book which seems to be well received, but a lot of the comic relief in his book is about how grossly unprepared he was and some of the dumb mistakes he made. Now he lived and became mildly famous in some circles. Had he died due to his lack of preparation those same people who are buying his book would be thinking "moron".
I think it is pretty universal in any culture that has to deal with a harsh climate that people who are unprepared or seem foolhardy that meet an untimely end are regarded pretty poorly. It is a cultural way to passing along the message "do your homework".I was scared of your post at first because I am dying to see the movie. First off, Krakauer is an amazing story teller and that book is a fantastic read no matter if you agree with Chris' take on life or not.
I think that a lot of Gen (apply whatever letter best suits our generation)'ers will find they can empathize with Chris. Our generation is fighting a great battle. It is the battle against losing our precious parks, woods and forests.
People can argue about his thoughts and beliefs on life but at least he lived a life that he wanted to live. Whether it was right or wrong is not a discussion in my book.
I also don't think the "great Alaskan trip" is the big discussion factor. It is the most debated topic about him but I think people miss the point if they only look at that one fact.
Anyway, great post.
Peace- AnonymousOctober 25, 2007 at 10:37 AM
Wow, your last paragraph just put into order all the thoughts that had been sloshing around my head about Chris McCandless since I first read the book, and more recently saw the movie.
Seems like a lot of folks don't dwell too much on the way the world is, too busy trying take care of themselves and their families maybe.
Others have moments of realization that something about the way we live might not be inherently right. But generally dwell on the satisfaction they get from their day to day lives and relationships.
For a few people though, the stark injustices of the world and the expectations of our society of how to live well, or correctly are blatantly, unignorably, and inexcusably wrong.
I think McCandless was one of the latter types. He was regularly aware of the big picture injustices of life that most people only occasionally think about, and conversely, at the finer scale of life, was insensitive to the hardships he caused in his personal relationships.
As for wandering off into the Alaskan wilderness "unprepared," how many of use found our way up here in our early 20's looking for adventure with a capital "A"? My hand is raised. - AnonymousOctober 25, 2007 at 11:24 AM
I'm not from Alaska and I haven't seen the movie but I loved the book. I'm with you on this one. Maybe the disdain comes from the fact that he just wasn't macho enough or didn't have the right "gear" or that he was so amazingly vulnerable.
ReplyDelete Thanks Jill.
You put into words what I have been trying to argue all week to my friends since I saw the movie on Sunday. As soon as I mention the movie, I here phrases like "stupid kid" and "what a loser". This angers me.
I think of all of the climbers that die in Alaska (because they made mistakes, like Chris) and how they are called heroes. People say they died doing what they love so that makes it okay. How is this any different?
People make mistakes in life, and it is part of what makes up who we are. I guess I feel this strong urge to defend him, because I relate to him as well.- AnonymousOctober 25, 2007 at 12:53 PM
I think people often disdain people who die in ways that they see as wasteful. A free-climber falls to his death and we think: "He should have had a rope!" We don't think to ourselves that they lived life their way and died their way. Maybe a tiny part of us is jealous, I dunno.
What is more disturbing is that many such people try to then save us from ourselves. "Well, we need to close this cliff to climbing!" Why? Because someone died? We don't close highways to cars because someone died (what a thought, but I digress).
I can imagine in the afterlife one would rather have died living than lived dying. "I am staying away from the movie because Eddie Vedder's voice is like nails on the chalkboard to me."
Juancho, are you serious? Eddie Vedder is probably the best vocalist in rock right now. Others scream or rasp, he sings. Oh well, to each his own... :) To me, that's one of the draws of the movie, and I can't wait to see it.Great post - I look forward to seeing the film. I haven't read the book either - think I'll do that first.
As an aside: "I am staying away from the movie because Eddie Vedder's voice is like nails on the chalkboard to me." - I totally agree - I feel like wandering off into the wilderness and getting eaten by a grizzly when I hear his voice.
Mungo Says BahI agree with what Vik had to say about Chris McCandless -- most people I know are resentful because he chose to go off into a grand "adventure" half-cocked. I personally don't hate him for that, but I do think he was stupid, and I don't like it when other people's lives are endangered and our resources are used because of someone's hubris. Although Chris died and wasn't rescued, I think to a lot of people, he represents a group of people who put themselves in dangerous situations without thinking about how it might affect others.
It did make me very sad to see how Chris chose to make his statement against society. I agree that modern society is greedy and wasteful; however, instead of choosing to help others, Chris chose to burn his cash and then spend his life wandering around, doing no good. I felt like it was a waste of the resources he did have. He could have made a much bigger statement by helping others in need.- AnonymousOctober 25, 2007 at 4:59 PM
i like what the person who posted last said, about how he "represents a group of people who put themselves in dangerous situations without thinking about how it might affect others".
i have yet to see the movie--i will, soon--but i remember just being frustrated, not so much by him, and not my his "fame" but by the myth he seems to become. people die in alaska all the time, and i'm okay with that. i don't think his story is particularly worth making a movie out of, over all the other stories out there. and i don't think he's worth turning into a mythological figure, which is what he seems to have become to a lot of people my age.
on a different scale, i have a general frustration with people who come to alaska (or any place they define as wilderness, really) with hopes that it will solve their problems, soothe their souls, expand their mind... but without much respect for what it can do to them that might not be so uplifting. the purpose of wilderness--or any natural landscape, really--has nothing to do with us. it's not there to solve our problems. we just like to think it can. Wow! This is the first post of yours I've read (link from Lauren's blog) and I'm just Wowed.
Thanks for putting into words what I was thinking when I read the book - I do have mixed feelings about seeing the movie but your "review" will get me there. Thanx.
I can see why some Alaskans would hate it.Thanks everyone for all of the great thoughts.
I tend to agree with Brittany. Just how does one judge a state of preparedness? Chris' level of preparedness was unorthodox for sure, but it wasn't inconsistent with his goals. His goal was to be completely self-sufficient in the wild. One can question the wisdom of that goal, but they can't question that he was "prepared" to meet it, by taking almost nothing with him (even though he did eventually accept help from society, such as the boots from the last guy who gave him the ride, and his decision to live in an abandoned bus.) He made a decent go of it, too, keeping himself alive and healthy for nearly three months before he made his fatal mistake. I'm confident that's a whole lot better than I could do. But have no doubt, if I ever decide to take a three-month camping trip in the Alaska backcountry, I am going the be "prepared" with an 80-pound pack, GPS, maps, a gun, and plenty of food drops and/or stops planned. Still, how do I know when I am sufficiently "prepared?" One can never really know, because nature is chaotic and uncertain, and cares nothing about our level of experience or knowledge.
I come from a bit of a defensive perspective on this point, because right now I am planning on embarking on an "adventure" that many would consider "reckless," "crazy," "dangerous." It most certainly is dangerous. I plan to devote all the time, money and energy I can spare to preparing for the dangers. But will I be prepared enough? Only time knows that answer.- AnonymousOctober 26, 2007 at 5:42 AM
You know what, Chris McCandliss was a dreamer. He believed he had a personal visionary quest and he gave it his all. Was he sometimes given to cheesy, hippie rhetoric? Yep. Was he practical and prepared in all respects? Certainly not. Was he a gear head, weekend warrior like all the shitheads who stand around and judge him harshly, out of hand - absolutely fucking not. Would he give a crap what those people have to say? Who knows, but given his conviction, his complete repudiation of his antecedents, his idealism, his pigheadedness, his purposeful tunnel vision planted right towards the sky, I seriously doubt it. Was he selfish? He was 23! For all we know he would have called his mom from Cantwell and then gone on to join the Peace Corps. Folks act like they know everything! Remember, a lot's not known about him, and what we do know we're getting from John Krakauer and Sean Penn, both arrogant polemicists posing as reporters and biographers. Personally, I wish he'd just walked down the river to the suspended cart which would have taken him safely across, or brought a lot more food with him, or been more knowledgeable about Alaskan flora (although the wild potato theory has been more or less disproved). I wish these things for him so that he wouldn't have died, not so that he wouldn't have been 'such a dumb ass.' He might have been 'unprepared,' but I would rather live in a world where some people have the guts to make bold, dangerous choices because they have an idealistic dream, regardless of how savvy or strong or whatever they may be. Bottom line. Come what may. And one last thing - he didn't endanger anyone else, don't put that line on him. He didn't try to climb Denali, he holed up in a bus and poached a moose. And I'm sorry, but that whole Colorado river thing was just fucking cool.
ReplyDelete - AnonymousOctober 26, 2007 at 8:05 AM
What bugs me about the whole thing is that McCandless's story amounts to little more than an unremarkable failure; lots of kids show his kind of early promise but fall along the way for any number of reasons - broken promises, broken homes, broken dreams - and then they, too, get mired down in meaninglessness - drugs, goal-less wandering, dead-end jobs, harmful relationships, whatever. I feel bad for the kid; like Pete, I wish he had found his way back out. I thought Krakauer's book, although well-researched, in the end amounted to pointless nosiness. There's no "there" there. Maybe McCandless was a special kid, but you know, they all are, and it's sad when they fall.
ReplyDelete - AnonymousOctober 31, 2007 at 7:52 PM
Personally, I have been pondering my own reactions to this film and the mystique around it. Before the film actually came out, I had read that people had been making pilgrimages to the bus.
This repulsed me. It struck me on several levels, but mostly, that it was the glorification of a very misguided individual. McCandless was not saint, he was a little boy lost I think.
I have read Abbey, Thoreau, Kerouac, and of course London and know that "feeling" that McCandless had, but I would never be so silly as to assume I could live off the land in the bush without the proper planning. Planning that would include a map and a compass.
Had McCandless had a proper map and a sense of the land, he could have located the cache not 2 miles away. He also could have found a way across the river. However, because he did none of the prep, he ended up dying slowly from malnutrition and perhaps toxic plant ingestion.
I am just two years older than he would be today. He and I had similar ideals and ideas I think from reading the book and his journal entries. Chris had many contradictory and naive ideas in his head as all late teens to twenty somethings do. He acted on them and in typical fashion of the age, did so with little thought to the potential consequences.
I have been running this all through my head again after seeing the film and feeling somewhat ambivalent about it. I guess what it really comes down to for me now is this...
He was no folk hero...
He did live the way he wanted to and I can appreciate and perhaps even envy that...
I find it funny that he wanted to remove himself from society, but always found himself on its periphery. Until that is, he went to AK where he died "on his own" Thus proving that he was not an island unto himself, and NOT able to "live off the land" Ask any Alaskan, you need people there to survive.
More than anything, had he really wanted to affect change, he could have done more with his life than donate 24K to Oxfam, he could have volunteered and made some lives better...
http://crabbyolbastard.livejournal.com - AnonymousNovember 25, 2007 at 5:08 PM
If you really know the Chris's story you will understand that embarking on his journey to Alaska was something he HAD to do. No, I don't think you can call him stupid. He was prepared in a lot of ways for being a college boy.
Definetely see the movie, there is more to the story than in the book in a lot of ways. Chris's family contributed a lot to the story line in the movie. Sean Penn could and wanted to put out this movie much earlier, but was holding out for more information from the family. I'm guessing that a lot of the dialogue between the people he met on his travels was formulated in the movie, but I think it helped the story tremendously. - AnonymousJuly 24, 2008 at 6:38 AM
I realize this is an old post and most will never read this comment, but for those skimming the archives, my .02$
The kid lived and lost his life on his own terms. There is no grand purpose to our lives. Regardless of what he did, since it did not effect any of his critics(save family and friends) who assualt his memory, I do not see the origen of the emotion they feel.
I think they are the fake ones, who are perhaps jealous that he had teh stones, if not the vision, to do something bigger than himself. That they wish they could, but are irate that they never can, live out their own dreams. The hatred comes from within, and is only directed out to keep from hurting themselves.
Drew - AnonymousJanuary 12, 2009 at 4:55 PM
Thank-you for your sensitive post about what was obviously a very troubled young man. That he suffered from some sort of disassociative disorder is readily apparent given his cruel renunciation of his family and, ultimately, himself. His "seeker" and "visionary" status given Krakauer is much more humane and kind than the vitriolic comments by so many. To those who were so scorching in their hatefulness I ask you, what's YOUR problem?

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For this outfit I was thinking of J.W. Anderson Spring 2011 and the pictures I put with it, the last three seasons of Meadham Kirchhoff, and various pictures from FRUiTS. I pinned this doily from my grandparents' house onto this lace slip wedding dress thing from the Salvation Army, the tee was sent to me by Blood Is The New Black, and the skirt underneath was a gift.
All of the brooches are some variation of thrift/family's old things/gifts except for the beetle brooch on the far right which was sent to me by Mandy Coon. The skeleton fairy charm is from a voodoo shop in New Orleans and I made the MISS WORLD necklace.
Goody tiara (I need a legitimate prom queen one that isn't just a clip, though) and iconography bracelet from a joke shop.
Ban.do sent me these shoe clips that I plan on attaching to everything, but look especially great with these boots I found in our basement. They are the best ugly shoes that I own, despite the fact that they are probably moldy and unsanitary.
As far as Ugly Shoe names go, you really can't beat that. I think I'm gonna start a band just so we can be The Lugz. I also think I have the name for my future child.
(Avid Courtney Love haters, I advise that you exit this page now. I have warned you, so don't come crying back to me/my comment section if the following photos bring you discontent.)
BEHOLD: my beloved Hole shrine. To make it a little less obsessive and weird, here is something I wrote about Courtney in the summer. This is a tribute to what Hole/Courtney have meant for me personally and for a general kinderwhore-but-not-totally vibe that I categorize on my tumblr as Vomit Pink (C) My Neverending Procrastinating Tumblr. These things have been acquired from all kindsa places.
Live Through This, tiny glow in the dark angel, and my bracelet. I used to have a reflective postcard of the Virgin Mary here too, but I think it got lost on the floor of my room..
I [crappily] drew the logo on an "Avon Valentine Favorites" record from the SA
Courtney on the cover of Dazed & Confused January 2010 and Celebrity Skin
Miss World, Violet, and Courtney on the cover of Bazaar in 1998 when she got all fancy
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The floor (I've only just now realized that this photo says "assy"...)
The ceiling, from one of those flashback pages in Interview
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Good news from theKompany.com keeps pouring in. As several of you have pointed out, the first beta of Aethera has been announced. In case you haven't been following, Aethera is theKompany's fork of the greatly hyped/anticipated Magellan project. Beta 1 of Aethera sports POP3, SMTP, HTML, DnD, a contacts interface, sticky notes, and more. IMAP, Calendar support, etc are promised for the next beta. There is no mention of the license although source is available from the website -- most of the source files seem to be under the BSD license. For more details on Aethera, Kevin Reichard also points us to this favorable review on LinuxPlanet by Dennis E. Powell. Be sure to check out the screenshots as well.
I'll second that. Shawn could have taken Magellan, polished it, made it binary-only and sold it. He didn't. He re-licensed it under the GPL, protecting his derived works.
The BSD license has its place, as does the GPL. What has happened here is becuase of the original choice to go with the BSD license. We're all just lucky that Shawn GPL'd his changes.
Besides, didn't he fund Teddy for a while?
(Sorry if I'm wrong..)
This wasn't an easy decision to make, and we didn't do it lightly, but we tried to do it correctly. Also just to be clear, I didn't fund Teddy in any way.
Well, the issue is that it is just the polite thing to do to ask the maintainer of the project for his opinion and try to work with him as much as possible.
It seems to me that from Teddy's post theKompany did not devote any sort of real resources to the project and it is just building on the work from Teddy.
It just seems very rude
Please don't make opinions or pass judgement without knowing all the facts. I really don't want to get into details because it is not productive for anyone. We spent many many hours on Magellan, but the bottom line is that we both had different ideas of what to do with it. From your perspective it gives you a choice of what you want to use.
Hey Shawn,
If you are not sharing your code with Teddy, then in my opinion you are using the GPL as a weapon against his email client rather than co-existing in "open source". You are in other words using his work against him. That's just my opinion however. You could explain yourself better on this subject to clear up all misconceptions.
At the point in time that we put the GPL notice in Aethera, the Magellan site had conflicting information, at some points it said GPL and some it said MIT/X. The code actually said MIT/X, at least the version we had as the Magellan CVS became suddenly unavailable about a month before we did our fork. Given this conflicting information, we weren't sure if Teddy had changed the license and it seemed safer to make sure that the Aethera code was GPL just to be sure.
"Within a month there will be very little of the original Magellan code in Aethera"
until then, you should have given the proper credits. shame!
Evandro we have done that. Look at our web page at http://www.thekompany.com/projects/aethera/overview.php3 the very first sentence gives this credit, and the credit was in the story header. I've given Teddy credit at every turn.
Please check your facts before you point your finger of shame.
While other companies just talk and talk the Kompany delivers! Good work Shawn and the guys.
There seem to be two classes of PIMs.
The first are ones like Aethera. The second are ones like www.thebrain.com or www.memes.net (OK they aren't usually called PIMs).
The ideal PIM would be one that combined both of these approaches into one application.
For instance, entries in the contact list could have links to other contacts, emails, or notes.
So that when I receive an email from Bob, I could pull up the contact entry for Bob and discover I had added links that point to his girlfriend Jill's contact record, links to organizations he belongs to, a link to a note I entered with info about our last conservation, links to the emails we exchanged, links to contact records for our common friends,
links to calendar entries involving Bob, etc. Each of these items could then have its own links.
Links could have have user entered descriptive info like:
"works for", "first cousin of", "interested in",
The structure of links would not be preordained but could evolve so that each user could grow their own web of information.
Yes! I agree thats what we need to make Aethera leading edge - lets not just aim to have features comparable to M$ Outlook, lets inovate!
Talking about inovation, I like the idea of mobile SMS messages staight from Aethera, WOW!!! I hope the next preview will have some of this, or has this being dropped and only available in Magallan?
Thanks again theKompany for yet another Kick-ass app!
If you look at the Aethera roadmap you will see that we have a number of unique and innovative features, there are more that we are working on but didn't want to talk about because it seems like every time we do the feature suddenly shows up somewhere else :).
SMS and all the other things will be in Aethera, don't worry.
What?! Other projects are copying an open-sourced project's features? I'm shocked!
Seriously... I don't understand your logic. If Aethera is one of your GPLd (i.e. non money-making) products, why are you worried about others copying your features? Isn't that what open-source is all about, the ability to copy other people's ideas and/or code?
My God!! A dynamic mind-map interface to all my data .. that's [stunning] !! The difficulty of trying to keep all the years of information & email I've collected in some form of organasation that remains useful over time has been driving me nuts for ages. Heirachical folders run out of steam beyond a certain point and info just gets lost or fogotten about.
My first eye opening experience to the possibility of organising data differently came several years ago in the form of "ML" - an IMAP mail client from a guy at Stanford Uni that allowed you to use filtering rules to create "Virtual Folders". It was amazingly powerful ; but died a death because 1) the guy stopped developing it and went to work for Netscape ; 2) it staticly linked in Motif; and 3) its dependance on large flat file mail files (behind IMAP) ran out of steam performance wise when they got too big (which they quickly did). Realisticly it needed a back end that a) used a database and b) had some built in smarts that enabled it to cooperate with the Virtual Folder generation.
It will be interesting to see if the Gnome folk can re-visit this with Evolution and take the concept onto the next level.
I do like theBrain's mind-map interface though .. I just can't way WOW enough times. This could be the answer to my prayers. I wonder if they've ever heard of KDE ;-)
This is the direction on which gofai-wmt is headed. It is already doing similar things for webpages with konqueror, try it in autopilot mode.
In fact, if you would have a contact list client with a sufficiently reach DCOP interface, the functionality could be added in an afternoon.
Is gofai-wmt still alive? -- its web pages seem to have vanished. (I tried: http://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/boloni/GofaiWeb/)
The key to making something like this work is ease of use. It's not clear you could accomplish that easily using a separate program.
There is also the issue of how objects get annotated/extended. For instance for a contact you would like to be able to put in as many phones numbers as you wish, each with some note: 'home', 'summer home', 'tuesdays work place', 'european cell number', etc. The only PIM I've seen that handles this gracefully is http://www.ajsystems.com/amigo.html
If Outlook Express is stripped down Outlook, why doesn't Outlook support newsgroups? I ask myself that every time I have to load that crappy program at work and then load a newsgroup reader to check my subscribed newsgroups. Ugh! I'd like to see Aethera support newsgroups. And I think that the previous post about making the different chunks of your program into KParts is essential! Looks pretty damn cool though!
It's also frustrating that OE has better Mail Rules that Outlook is missing. I'm amazed that MS couldn't use ALL the features of OE in Outlook PLUS some. In many ways - OE is superior to Outlook in the email program part of it.
who told that oe is a descendant of outlook? as far as i know both programs do not share a common root...
Hi Shawn,
I downloaded and installed this last night, and it looks real sharp. My only complaint is that it seems to store it's data in binary format. I have a large flat file containing 150+ contacts, and I was hoping to convert it into Aethera's format with a python script. Is there any reason that this is not stored in plain text? XML would seem to work very well here. If there is some reason for the binary format, is it at least documented somewhere?
Just my $.02.
Well, we are working on some import features, so we will more than likely make it possible to create custom import routines.
That's good to know, but was there a reason for choosing a binary format?
Don't bother about import features, that will be an endless nightmare. Just provide a dcop interface to add new contacts. Then any importing script can just do
dcop aethera add_new_contact firstname lastname address yada yada yada
So, now what we need is for kmail and kdepim to start rolling in the good parts of Aethera, so that when the proprietary modules start rolling in, open source alternatives can be made available.
And that will be the perfect way to make sure that we don't make money on anything and go out of business.
What bothers me is the notion that open source must also be free of charge. I honestly have no problem with including the source to an application that someone has purchased, or that we are giving away for free. What bothers me is this misconception that the software should also be free of charge. This is what forces a company to create closed source so that they can protect their financial interest.
I've been coding for 22 years and creating commercial software for 15 years now, and it seems I've spent half my life coming up with copy protection devices to avoid piracy. This was one of the lures of Linux to me was the idea of Open Source, but I've been disappointed to a certain degree on the misunderstanding of "free".
95% of the email I get is very supportive in both financial and cheerleading, but I do get that 5% that are angry at me for having the audacity to charge for our work. It really blows me away.
So you see, the "for sale" modules of Aethera can be open source as well, but that depends on the public.
Right on, Shawn.
Don't worry, as soon as all the "all open-source must be free" fellows get their first mortgage, you'll be amazed how quickly they'll become more realistic in their expectations :-)
Well, i don't think you have a problem in this case, since the Server version will be Proprietary.
btw: why don't you create a new licence in which you will give the proprietary software, in which anyone will be able to modify the code for personal use, but only *IF* he was purchaced a copy, and he will not be able to (legally) distribute it or create something else with the code without agreement from your company...
The server is only one of the pieces we will sell. All the normal features of a Mail, PIM and Newsreader will be free, it's some, not all, of the unique features that will carry some sort of price.
Another license is an interesting thought. I've been skiddish on this because of the heat Trolltech (wrongly) got over the QPL, but we can dual license it. I'll have a talk with my high priced attorneys and see what we can come up with :).
If you come up with a license that will allow paying customers to modify and improve the code, and allow those customers to share their improvements (but without the problems that were the downfall of Minix), that would completely change things.
It would change things for the better. Customers would retain freedom. You could get that revenue from selling copies that you want. In this situation, everybody wins, right?
Hi Shawn.
I've been using Linux for four or five years now, and I have yet to find an e-mail client that holds a candle to those found on other OSs. The closest thing I've got so far is Pine, which, while amazing, sucks on many levels.
If you come up with _the_ client, I'll gladly pay for it. Especially if it's Open Source!
I personally think that there's plenty of money to be made in OpenSource software. I also think that developer time should be paid for, not the actual products. This is why I like the CoSource idea so much. You've got your plans, and I think they may work too.
The idea of giving the source along with the binaries is a fantastic first step. We need steps like these before development can make the transition from proprietary to Open Source. Your company is one of the few that seems to be making an honest attempt at walking this fine line.
So, if you come up with this PIM and it has Palm and IMAP support, I'll happily send you $50CDN. This is a promise from me to you.
Oh, on a related note, I was VERY excited about your release of KDEStudio. I'd also be happy to pay something for that. Sadly, I've been unable to get it to compile on my Debian Woody system running KDE 2.1 betas. If you were to statically compile it, and offer binaries with docs (thereby giving an IDE approaching MSVC++) I'd also happily pay for that.
Maybe give the source and sell the binaries?? I guess that's what Helix Code is kinda trying to do..
BTW, as an ex-Be user I simply will not pay for Binary-only software anymore. So, if BlackAdder also comes with the source, then I may be interested in buying that too..
Good luck, thanks for reviving all of these half-dead KDE projects,
I'm leaving for an overnight holiday in a few minutes, so if I don't respond to things in my standard rapid fashion, I apologize.
Are people reading my mind lately? Watch for an announcement about KDE Studio on Monday or Tuesday next week.
What about BlackAdder exactly do you want to see open source? Some of it is, but we don't have control over all of it. I've gotten this question 2 or 3 times, but no one can tell me what it is they want open (I really am curious).
Use source from CVS. I had some problems also compiling KDE Studio in Debian (Potato). Problems are fixed already in CVS.
I've been trying (and pretty much failing) to explain to my business partners and employees (programmers and html artists, mostly) what open source is all about, and how you really can make money off of it.
I'm hoping that in six months, I can point to theKompany and other true open source success stories. Red Hat et al. were tied up into the dot com stock market bubble... open source really hasn't got some solid success stories for corporations or individuals.
How many times must I repeat: I don't care if you charge money.
Have you not heard of the expression: "Free speech, not free beer"? Without the freedoms outlined in the Debian Free Software Guidelines (a subset of the terms demanded by the GPL), my computer, and therefore my data, is under the control of another.
I cannot accept that. If there are enough people who can (and Microsoft has proven there are), then you will make money, Shawn. If you, with your funded resources, can provide a high-quality product and good support, better than an open source project can, then you will make money, Shawn.
If, however, you assume that you cannot successfully compete with an open source project, and if you think that you cannot provide better software and support than an open source volunteer project, then that doesn't say much about your confidence in your coders and staff.
I've often heard you say things to the effect of "If you like what we're doing for the community, please buy or other products."
This actually strikes me as something that should be looked into much more in the Open Source community. As the sentiment goes around here, I have absolutely no qualms about paying for software. I just want the source. I've often thought that a donations-based model for driving Open Source development would be interesting.
After all, if people want to see quick implementations of features and new ideas, full-time developers are required. And these people do have to eat.
My guess is that if an organization such as the KDE League, or GNOME Foundation, or even the Free Software Foundation, were to setup a fund to support free software development, people would contribute. I certainly would.
It has been said that Linux is used by 2 million people in the desktop market alone. If 1 out of 5 of these people were to contribute 20$ once a year, that would be 8 million dollars to fund Open Source development. That seems to be very conservative to me - with the efforts of a large organization behind things, I bet more could be raised.
Hell, Amnesty International has no problems getting 50$/year from me. I'm sure the Open Source community, in which I have much stronger convictions, could get quite a bit more.
It might have even been mentioned here, and I think it's a good idea. Basically a license that gives you the source code, but prevents you from distributing the code to other people. This gives you the ability to modify the code as you want, you could even submit it back if you wanted, but it also protects our interests by preventing the wholesale distribution of our code to people who didn't pay for it.
So your solution is to discourage free software development? This is the main point of the kde project, a "free" desktop environment.
That's not to say you can't charge for your software if you wish to, but if kde developers feel like "rolling in" the good gpl'ed parts of your application into kmail they should be able to do so, and I hope they do. That's the whole point.
Frankly I'm surprised more people haven't raised this point.
Well,there has to come a point where commercial software companies have to have a chance to make some money of Linux software as well, right?
This is one thing I do not understand as well: if no software companies can make money off Linux products, who will employ Linux developers?
It would be pretty sad if the majority of Linux developers had to develop for Windows from 9-5 and only do Linux at night as a hobby...sounds like a recipe for mass burnout.
If theKompany plays by the rules, bases their product on open standards and does not lock in the users into a proprietary closed solution, then what's wrong with them making some money?
Seems like the market for KDE apps has come a long way in a short time just because of a little profit-based motivation that theKompany has behind it. If they can maintain superior product quality, I would have no problem paying for their product. If their products will suck and free alternatives will be available, then they'll go out of business, but that should not be the case if they manage to provide good value...which seems to be the case here.
No one seems to have a problem with IBM making lots of $$$ thanks to Linux, selling DB2, WebSphere, hardware, etc...a little profit never hurt anybody.
That's fine. There is absolutely nothing wrong with it. Nothing. But Shawn's original reply to the suggestion that the good parts of Aethera were incorporated into kdepim, and kmail was:
"And that will be the perfect way to make sure that we don't make money on anything and go out of business"
I don't have any problems with him trying to make a buck selling software. As a matter of fact, I would probably pay for Aethera. But to discourage developers (let's face it, he's getting pretty influential in the KDE community) from taking the parts they like about Aethera is unthinkable. If he actually succeded in doing so, I would switch to gnome (as much as I hate that prospect).
Oh come on, let's not go overboard here. The point I was making was that if the only intention of the public is to wait for us to come up with a really good piece of software and then peel it off into something else, then it will most certainly do us no good, and then we will be gone and that will be that.
Think closely about what you are saying here. For the sake of argument, say we charged $50 for Aethera (it is free, but for our example), but it is open source and so all the code gets put into KMail and KPIM. Why would you buy Aethera?
Try not to over-parse my statements as I don't always have time to craft an elegant carefully worded response. I make it a point to reply to all mail and as much of these feedbacks as quickly as possible, which means my responses will not always come across correctly.
I've said time and again that I have no problem with having our stuff open sourced, but I also can't to that to the detriment of my business. I'm doing my best to respect the open source community, and I just ask for the same in return.
As far as influece in the KDE community, well I have virutally none and I don't try to exert any. All we are doing is releasing as many products as we can for KDE that plug the gaps (as I perceive them). Almost all of our employees came directly from the KDE community as well.
Using a Caldera eServer 2.3.1 (all updates). I can't compile aethera/libs/vparsers/rdate.cpp:
g++ -I. -I. -I../.. -I/opt/kde2/include -I/usr/lib/qt2/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I../../src -I../../data -I../../icons -O2 -Wall -c rdate.cpp
In file included from rdate.cpp:34:
rdate.h:49: warning: ANSI C++ forbids declaration `Period' with no type
rdate.h:49: parse error before `;'
rdate.h:52: type/value mismatch at argument 1 in template parameter list for `template QValueList'
rdate.h:52: expected a type, got `RDate::Period'
rdate.h:52: warning: ANSI C++ forbids declaration `periods' with no type
rdate.h:80: syntax error before `('
rdate.h:88: syntax error before `('
rdate.cpp:44: syntax error before `::'
rdate.cpp:46: syntax error before `;'
rdate.cpp: In method `void RDate::parseString(class QString)':
rdate.cpp:51: warning: comparison between signed and unsigned
rdate.cpp:60: `tb' undeclared (first use this function)
rdate.cpp:60: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
rdate.cpp:60: for each function it appears in.)
rdate.cpp: In method `void RDate::setFinshed()':
rdate.cpp:77: `Finished' undeclared (first use this function)
rdate.cpp: In method `int RDate::getNextOccurencePrivate(class QDateTime)':
rdate.cpp:89: request for member `count' in `RDate::periods', which is of non-aggregate type `int'
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rdate.cpp:106: invalid types `int[int]' for array subscript
rdate.cpp:108: invalid types `int[int]' for array subscript
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This error is in the kompany cvs for atleast two weeks. I post this here because i don't see any bug reporting address in the web pages or source.
Is this known ?
PS: KDE2.1 from CVS. QT 2.2.3. i can compile everything else flawlessly.
Two weeks? We just made this available yesterday. I would suggest using the source RPMS, which is what I did on my COL 2.4 system.
The support address is [email protected], I put it in the press release, but forgot to put it on the web page, we are correcting the mistake now.
I've also forwarded your problem to the above email address. Please try the SRPM and see how that does for you, any other problems, please let us know at the above address.
Hey! is there still development going on ? or is theKompany doing all New stuff , LOL !!!
go kde go
Now that we all have huge hard disks, how about allowing the use of a full-blown database for storing mail, calendar, and contacts data?
Pronto (and others) use MySQL. It's riduculously fast with folders (and vfolders) containing, say, 20-30,000 messages, and rock-solid.
This would be great as an option. That way you could easyly access all data through other means, too. Let's imagine some kind of webfrontend for contacts. I'd love this.
This is my usual response to this:
Look at how KRN 0.6.11 does it. It's just as insanely fast with folders containing up to hundreds of thousands of messages (ok, you need 256MB of RAM for that ;-)
It uses Gigabase, an embedded DB backend, which is free, and needs no setup at all.
It's cool, it's fast, its stable, it's nice, and the author gives great support. It can even be used in commercial stuff, I think.
i'm sorry but what's KRN? i'd like to take a look at what you refer.
ah. i've been using knode. will give this a try.


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Until now, 3-D printers have been something of a novelty. The computer-controlled machines create three-dimensional objects from a variety of materials. Now, they are being discovered by everyday consumers. Jon Kalish reports.
You may have heard of 3-D printers. These are computer controlled machines that create three-dimensional objects from a variety of materials. They've been kind of a novelty for a while but now they are being discovered by everyday consumers. Jon Kalish reports.
JON KALISH, BYLINE: Sean Hurley works for a software company called Autodesk. Not long ago the door on his clothes dryer at home developed a problem. It wouldn't stay shut, which made it impossible to use the dryer.
SEAN HURLEY: The little clip when you shut the door that locks it is just a half-inch flat little piece of plastic with a little channel it. That's all it was. Thirty-nine bucks.
KALISH: Yep, 39 bucks to replace a little piece of plastic. So Hurley used his computer to design the part and then made it on a 3-D printer. Problem solved. Hurley knew how to do this because he knows how to use software to make a 3-D model. But for those of us who don't have that kind of computer chops, Hurley's company makes free software that fills in the gap.
HURLEY: 123D Catch allows somebody to use a regular camera and capture photos that generate a 3-D model. It's kinda like magic.
KALISH: And if even that seems too involved, there are now multiple sites on the Internet that offer free 3-D models for a variety of consumer items. For example, if the headband on your headphones breaks, you can have a new one printed from one of these free files. And more and more of these files are being made available every day.
New Yorker Duann Scott had one of those pricey Bugaboo baby strollers. When a part in the locking mechanism broke he was told it would cost $250 to fix it. Scott spent all of five minutes creating a 3-D model of the broken plastic part and had it printed in a stronger material: stainless steel. The cost: $25.
DUANN SCOTT: It came back just under two weeks later and I put it in the stroller and it worked straight away. And I documented it so that anybody could fix their stroller using my experience. And I made the three files available for download for free so anyone else can repair it. And I don't get any money from it. I just want people to fix their stroller in the same way I could.
KALISH: 3-D printers and other digital fabrication machines are allowing designers and consumers to bypass the traditional factory and create goods on a much smaller scale. But even if you skip the factory, you'll still need access to expensive digital fabrication technology such as laser cutters and CNC routers.
Ponoko is one of several companies that can take a customer's own design, or one made by a professional, and fabricate consumer goods made from a variety of materials, including metals, wood and felt. The company has 15 different production facilities in the United States.
At their Wellington, New Zealand headquarters Ponoko staffer Richard Borrett showed off a pair of stools made from birch plywood.
RICHARD BORRETT: This is one of the first products that came to our showroom when we first launched CNC cutting. He's managed to nest two of the stools onto one sheet of birch ply. And that all slots together, no fasteners. It's a complete sort of flat-pack design and you pop the pieces out and slot it all together.
KALISH: A few blocks from Ponoko's office in Wellington, parts for a wooden chair are being cut on a CNC milling machine at Victoria University. Two graduates of the university's design program started the SketchChair project, which allows people with absolutely no artistic or computer skills to design their own chairs.
The open source software they use not only figures out how to construct the chair but also creates a computer file that tells a CNC router how to cut out the parts. Tiago Rorke is one of the designers behind SkechChair.
TIAGO RORKE: We weren't so much interested in trying to create a brand of furniture. Like, we were a little bit more interested in taking the model of open source software development and apply that to product design. You know, it's not just the SketchChair software which will be available for free but the designs themselves.
And so, it takes it away from being about the original sole authorship but more about people working collaboratively through a community and I guess sharing their ideas is a big part of it.
KALISH: If you'd like to digitally fabricate a table to go with your chair, there are free designs available from the AtFab project, which was started by architects in Lexington, Kentucky. They also give away files to make cabinets and beds.
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One Year, Less Some Hours, Mercifully Forgotten
One year ago tonight, I was in labour. I had been in labour for, oh, 18 hours or thereabouts. I would remain in labour for another 18 hours.
Thankfully, I've blanked most of it out.
30+ hours BEFORE arrival of the WonderBaby. Note ginormousness. Also note deluded smile, unique to women who mistakenly believe that it will all be over soon, and that effort of pushing a being the size of a prize-winning pumpkin through nether regions will be entirely manageable.
Tomorrow... tomorrow is for remembering the joy.
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Network: TNT
Episodes: 10 (hour)
Seasons: One
TV show dates: February 4, 2013 — April 8, 2013
Series status: Cancelled
Performers include: Jamie Bamber, Jennifer Finnigan, Bill Irwin, Alfred Molina, Sarayu Rao, Ving Rhames, Keong Sim, and Emily Swallow.
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This medical drama follows the staff of Chelsea General Hospital in Portland, Oregon as they push their abilities and confront their personal and professional failings.
Doctors face life-and-death decisions every day as they fight against often-impossible odds to save their patients. When things don't go as they should, it's up to their medical colleagues to determine what went wrong and what can be learned.
Every Monday, the doctors of Chelsea General must gather with their peers for a confidential review of complications and errors in patient care.
Leading the hospital staff are Doctor Harding Hooten (Alfred Molina) and Doctor Jorge Villanueva (Ving Rhames).
Hooten is the steely-eyed Chief of Staff, speaks softly but carries a massive stick. He was nicknamed "Hardly Human" long ago for his exacting, punishing ways during the weekly morbidity and mortality meetings.
Villanueva, known as El Gato, is a giant of a man. He is also perhaps the most celebrated trauma chief in the country — clearly the elephant in this circus. El Gato's seat-of-the-pants diagnoses are the stuff of legend around Chelsea General.
Their cadre of medical talent includes:
Doctor Tyler Wison (Jamie Bamber), a hotshot neurosurgeon who has a well-earned god complex. Doctor Tina Ridgeway (Jennifer Finnigan), a compassionate neurosurgeon who's willing to fight for cases that may seem like lost causes to others. Her home life is in turmoil so she finds refuge at the hospital.
Doctor Sung Park (Keong Sim) is a Korean-American and is abrupt socially and English-challenged. He's also ambitious to the core with his searing intensity being palpable. Doctor Sydney Napur (Sarayu Rao) is a cardiothoracic surgeon who's married to the job. A compulsive multi-tasker, she speaks quickly and takes absolutely no prisoners.
Doctor Buck Tierney (Bill Irwin) is the hospital's Chief of Transplantation. A man driven to the point of bullish, he is least liked among the Chelsea General staff. Doctor Michelle Robidaux (Emily Swallow) is a twenty-something resident. Inexperienced yet eager, she is finding her footing among experienced giants.
Episode #10 — Family Ties
Hooten and Buck find themselves facing off in court against attorney Mitch Tompkins (guest Anthony Heald) after a grieving son refuses to comply with his mother's final wishes.
Sydney's outrage over the health of a morbidly obese 16-year-old boy further strains her relationship with Lieberman (guest Jonathan Silverman). And a seemingly harmless patient (guest Kenneth Mitchell) puts one of Chelsea General's own in grave danger.
First aired: April 8, 2013.
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The nation of Mali is in turmoil. Within two short weeks, the apparently stable West African democracy has gone from preparing for presidential elections to a military coup. Neighboring countries are imposing a total embargo, demanding the coup leaders step down. Add to the mix a separatist rebellion in the north that has captured the fabled desert city of Timbuktu. From Mali's capital, Bamako, NPR's Ofeibea Quist-Arcton reports.
OFEIBEA QUIST-ARCTON, BYLINE: Mali is a mess. Let me explain. The ousted president is in hiding, observing from the sidelines as his Sahara Desert nation unravels rapidly. Amadou Toumani Toure was about to step down during elections later this month, after serving his two-term limit. But then soldiers staged a coup.
The new junta blames the ousted president for mishandling the nomadic Tuareg rebellion in the north. But since the military came to power last month, the insurgency has deepened. Many blame Mali's troubles on the rebel fighters who've seized control of the northern half of country, demanding independence as the army retreats.
QUIST-ARCTON: Avoiding the blame game, other Malians are fervently praying that a solution will be found for this troubled nation. Twenty-five thousand gathered in a stadium in Bamako over the weekend, for a joint prayer rally, called by Christian and Muslim religious leaders.
Mahmoud Dicko heads Mali's Islamic High Council.
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QUIST-ARCTON: Dicko says all Malians must reunite for peace. He's also calling on Mali's neighbors to help. But the regional West African Community, ECOWAS, has imposed tough diplomatic and financial sanctions, and ordered closed, the borders of landlocked Mali.
Regional presidents insist the soldiers who seized power must go, now. The coup leader, Captain Amadou Haya Sanogo, says he'll remain in office until the end of the transition and the holding of democratic elections.
CAPTAIN AMADOU HAYA SANOGO: My committee is staying. There will be a conventional government which will work throughout for the two big issues â the north Crisis and the peace agreement.
QUIST-ARCTON: That northern crisis is, of course, the rebellion in the Sahara Desert, where well-armed nomadic Tuaregs have routed the military and say they will declare an independent homeland they call Azawad. In the past few days, the rebels have captured all the strategic cities in the north, including historic Timbuktu.
Rebel spokesman, Moussa Ag Assarid, says they want to consolidate their authority over the region, then open ceasefire negotiations with the junta in Bamako.
MOUSSA AG ASSARID: Yes, we want to build a nation; mixed colored nation, black and white people, for our people in Azawad. We want to build a democracy.
QUIST-ARCTON: The Tuareg rebels â some who fought for Muammar Gadhafi in Libya, are allied to the Islamist group Ansar Dine, which wants Sharia law imposed in Mali. The regional al-Qaida franchise is said to freely operate drug trafficking and other smuggling rackets in the vast desert region. All this is causing alarm.
Thomas Dempsey is a former U.S. Army colonel and a professor at the Department of Defense's Africa Centre for Strategic Studies in Washington.
THOMAS DEMPSEY: You know, it's an interesting question to me, whether the coup is precipitating the problems in the north, or whether the problems in the north are really driving the coup.
QUIST-ARCTON: Dempsey and others say the situation is not cut and dried, nor is the Malian army's ability to control it. And they warn that the looming drought and possible famine are among other problems facing Mali. The West African community is threatening unspecified military action and has put a standby force on alert. The U.N. Security Council is set to hold a Mali crisis meeting later today.
Ofeibea Quist-Arcton, NPR News, Bamako.
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