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Hi all
i know I have asked about before so sorry
But is anyone a member of this scheme? If so, would you recommend it?
A few people, me included, looked at it and then either did or didn't follow through. I didn't but for reasons not linked to the scheme. It looks a good deal if the matrix suits you. That is the key to it. No catches as far as I could work out.
What course are you looking at?
They nearly always have an offer giving out extra points so don't join without that. You also get points via referral schemes so try to make use of that as well.
Your matrix sound very similar to the one I would have had. Good numbers unless you are looking to play a lot of comps, usually in the weekend am slot which eats points.
I'm on it, works for me as I'm after a handicap and choice on playing venue. Happy to play 10 club medals and other medals events elsewhere to keep it fresh 👍 it has its plusses and negatives like most schemes !!
8 pts per medal = £24 + entry so no cheap but could you play on a private course at same rate at peak times?
I really really nearly joined on one. Went for the meeting with the club owner, and when it came down to it, it seemed too much faffing around. ie every time you want to play you have to book thru pmg and not the club, Inc comps. Just felt a ball ache it you fancied a quick 9
I decided to join on a full membership which come Wednesday, will be well on the way
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thanks, similar to my situation. Never been a member before of a GC so seems like a nice compromise to play in a few medals, get a handicap and see what happens
thanks - they text an offer every now and again so will make sure I get something
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I am in a new relationship with a woman who is on the edge of overweight/obese by BMI standards. We met through ultimate frisby - she's been getting more active and recently lost 40 lbs. I'm a pretty fit guy, but I used to be overweight. We both jog, so when I slept over last night, I suggested we go for a jog together this morning.
About 20 minutes into our jog, she was like ten paces in front of me and I guess it might not have been clear we were jogging together. An SUV passes us and some guy says out of his window, "LAND WHALE!" at her as he passes. I was so shocked I stopped jogging and said "What the fuck?" out loud. She keeps jogging for ten seconds until she notices I've stopped, rolls her eyes and says, "I know, don't worry about it, it happens sometimes."
Like, is this a thing? Do people really just randomly insult larger women like that? While people are generally more positive to me since I lost weight, I never, never received that sort of abuse before. I was really shocked by the whole experience and didn't want to press it with my girlfriend.
I'm not even very big and I've had people heckle me from cars while jogging.
Same here...and people wonder why heavy people hate working out. I'm not even that fat and I just feel like I'm being judged every time I work out or eat or do anything.
Same here. I hate working out or eating in public. I will, but I definitely try to avoid it.
I believe this is the best thing to do. However, not always easy. Kudos to you!
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This is one of the biggest reasons why I don't like exercising in public. I used to run, but I switched to swimming because its lower impact. I'm a size 16/18, but I'm also 5'11", so I'm just bigger in general. When I ran, I had people shout horrible things, or say mean things at the gym. I don't understand why they have to be so nasty to someone who clearly trying to better themselves.
I'd been going to my gym for about 3 years, but one morning shortly after New Years I overhead some girl say "Ugh, I can't wait until all of the Resolution Fatties get tired and stop coming to this gym." Even if it wasn't about me specifically, that's just a rude thing to say, and it's that kind of attitude and action that makes a lot of large people just not want to change.
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yupppp. dumbass guys love to shout stuff at girls while they are jogging. Since they are driving, they can pretty much say whatever and be long gone before the jogger can reply, so there is a stupid sense of power in it. I get a lot of "complimentary" catcalls (I'm about average weight), but I am not surprised at all that they would shout insults as well. This makes me really mad, because clearly this woman is trying to get more fit, and she should be encouraged not discouraged by fucktards
edit: ok I get it, it happens to guys also. I'm not sexist or anything (like some are accusing) I'm just not a man so I don't have that experience. relax. the comment is meant to be about weight issues not gender issues.
Oh good, it's not just me.
For some reason whenever I'm walking around, minding my own business guys yell at me from car windows all. the. time. Sometimes cat calls, other times I can't tell what in the world they just said to me because they drove by so fast.
But once I was jogging and someone yelled "RUN, FATTY!" at me. I'm 5'2 and 140 pounds so technically like 4 pounds overweight, but far from remarkably large.
So, not doing anything out of the ordinary -> get yelled at from guys cars in a "complimentary" way
Exercising to improve myself -> get yelled at from guys in cars in an insulting way
all my wat
I'm 5'1" and only wish I was 140lbs! (I really want to get back down to 150 - 160lbs. I have a muscular build and that's the weight where I looked my best) As embarrassing as it is, that's why I want to buy an elliptical to exercise at home. I don't want to jog on the street or at a gym where I feel like the already super-fit people can watch and laugh at me. It's already hard enough to work up the willpower to try and change just for assholes to try and discourage you. Still way too many bullies around, that's for sure.
That's how I feel about going to the gym. I've been meaning to start doing free weights for a long time, but every time I go I get super self conscious that all that all the meat head jock bros are going to laugh at the chubby pale girl lifting weights :(
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Wow. I can't imagine ever shouting shit at someone like that, regardless of their sex.
People are jogging to improve themselves and that is worthy of a high five. I'd say jog with earphones in and realize that people who yell insults like that, their opinions aren't worth shit.
On behalf of all decent men, I apologize. We have sent scouts among our ranks to sort out this problem. Should it happen again, notify douchebaggery hotline at 1-888-JERSEY1
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I have been known to carry rotten eggies in a bag for the really obnoxious hecklers. They get an egg on their car, that they usually dont notice, and it will stink until they was it off... I am satisfied. but I dont actually suggest this
yeah, you never know who's gonna stop their car and address an issue like that.
"What the FUCK. I just commented on how fat your ass was! You're so inconsiderate!"
That's why I jog with my German Shepherd. People actually go out of their way to avoid us on the sidewalk.
Dogs act as a kind of force field for runners - I never run without mine.
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The most humiliating instance for me was being a grown woman shouted at for being "too fat for that shirt" by a bus full of middle school boys. I was about 5'3" and about 130 lbs.
I think a fat joke is the easiest way to get a reaction out of a woman because we worry about our looks. Even thin women worry they look fat.
Agree. Default insult for a woman is "fat" or "slut", regardless of her weight or sexual activity.
Because women aren't supposed to have appetites of any kind. Just be submissive little Barbie Dolls and do whatever we're told.
Or, when you're obviously a stick, "too skinny" is what makes us untrustworthy. Because trustworthiness is directly correlated with body weight. It's just lose/lose, no matter what you look like. When you've got a culture that equates women with pieces of art, surely it's not out of bounds to express your opinion in any and every situation about what would make that art better.
I've been called fat by people who obviously have higher BMIs than me. I've stopped even trying to understand this crap.
Maybe you mean "fat insults"? Because this sort of thing is not a joke. It is harassment
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I'm 5'2", and, well, a lot more than 130 lbs. If I weighed that, I honestly don't know how I'd handle it. I haven't anything close to that since high school.
Yeah, I'm about 120 and this has happened to me. Some people are just jerks.
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You don't even have to be big really, if you're a female and are walking/running/biking, whatever, it's apparently okay for you to be heckled by men.
I was walking home from a party at a friend's house and I had two men ask me to get into their car while they slow creeped through a right turn, leering, while I waited for the signal to cross. It's pretty disgusting really.
Yeah, not too long ago I got stalked for half a mile in the middle of the night. I got offered 200 euro to flash these dudes at one point, by the time they flipped their car around for the third time, I booked it down an alley and hid behind a car til they left.
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Those stupid fucking idiots. I'm constantly floored at how guys think it's flattery. It's not. It's like when I argued with someone on here about how saying a woman has DSL isn't a compliment... People were actually saying it is a compliment, just one you wouldn't say to a woman.
UM, the very definition of compliment includes the world polite. It disgusted me how many guys in my real life thought this way.
I generally ask "if you were at a friend's wedding, and you saw his sister across the room, would you yell loudly nice ass, in front of this woman's brothers and father and all your peers? No? That's because it's not a compliment."
If they answer yes (which few will do in polite company) you can just walk away.
The first time I heard it in real life, I totally thought they were talking about the girl's internet connection for a few moments. I was like "what a strange thing to be talking about."
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I never really understood this. If I have "Run Forrest Run" yelled at me one more time from a car. It makes zero sense.
I got this last night while I was drunk and running down a hill (don't ask why because I don't know why.) I was too drunk and confused to respond properly, so I just shouted "I don't look like Tom Hanks, you shit."
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"Run Forrest Run" hardly even counts as heckling, it's so stupid and boring. It's just the default that comes up when morons see someone running.
Hell, I know a kid named Forrest who runs funny(it's hard not to in Georgia boots) and it's not even funny then.
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This is a big reason why I only exercise from the privacy of my own home.
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This is the main reason I don't walk or run, even though I want to. My boyfriend doesn't understand it and I'm not sure how to communicate that "just ignore it" doesn't cut it most of the time.
If I'm running outside, I'm running around my block over and over. Mostly because it's not pedestrian heavy and by a school. So most of the people I encounter are moms taking their kids home.
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140 pounds here. Im nit even described as chubby and I've had girls yell at me while standing on the street while I was jogging that I was a lardo and "omg look at her thighs flap!"
My husband and I go jogging together. We have never had things shouted at us, but a bunch of teenagers threw cups full of soda at us from a moving car. People are such jerks.
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The first thing that comes to mind with this is TLC. "I don't want no scrub A scrub is a guy that can't get no love from me Hanging out the passenger side Of his best friend's ride Trying to holler at me"
Of course holler would be heckle in this case, but regardless, fuck these people.
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I date online and I am always up front about my weight, I show pictures that don't hide it. Guys who want to go out with me generally don't mind or they like big girls. One time I was waiting outside the restaurant to meet a guy for the first time. He drove by, saw me, and then called me to cancel the date. He called back and left a message telling me I was a fat and I should go in to the restaurant and drown my sorrows in more beer and get fatter, etc etc. It was a long vile message. Then when I was listening to it he texted me with more vile fat insults. I didn't date for a while after that experience.
Looking back I should have, but I was actually a little scared because he saw me and described when I was wearing, and I didn't know him or where he was. I was in New Brunswick, which is a small city, so I was looking over my shoulder as I walked 2.5 blocks back to my car worried that he was still around. It all happened so fast.
Thanks. He comes across me on various social media from time to time, and even though it's been many years he still messages me asking if he knows me or if we ever met. So creepy.
YUCK! I'm sorry you had to deal with such an asshole prick!
I posted about it on here earlier, but I've had a guy drive off when he saw my chunky butt and then later, when I lost weight, he started blowing up my profile again. Mad sympathies here.
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I had a similar experience. I told the guy exactly what I weighed and sent honest photos telling him "I understand I'm not everyone's cup of tea and don't want to waste either of our time." He insists I'm sexy blah blah and says I look "curvy" and he likes curvy girls. I was about 190 and 5'3" (I'm significantly smaller now) I was VERY clear on this.
Fast forward and I get out of my car in the parking lot. He looks horrified and sits in his car for about 5 mins just staring and "thinking". He finally gets out and hands me $10 while looking at his feet, refusing to make eye contact. I ask what it's for and he says "Gas for having you drive out here. I should have said no when you sent the pics but I thought I could over look it. I just can't. I'm a nice guy so here, take this for your time."
First of all, a nice guy would have had dinner and been polite and tried to enjoy himself and then been honest about not feeling an attraction after or when the topic of a second date is broached, like polite people do in a bad date. I have sat through first dates with people I wasn't Interested in because they're still decent human beings who deserve respect and I'm capable of enjoying the company of those I don't necessarily want to have sex with.
Secondly, paying someone to go away is not a nice or kind gesture, nor does it make up for being too superficial to be seen in public for one single meal with someone you invited out in the first place. We had lots of common interests we could have talked about and had a nice meal. Maybe we could have even been friends.
Finally, saying you tried really hard, for 5 minutes in the car, to tolerate being around a fat person but they were so disgusting you simply couldn't do it doesn't make you "so brave" or nice and you don't get points for what little effort you gave it.
Bah, people.
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Yes. Yes it is a thing. It's a scarily common thing; hasn't happened to me but has happened to larger people I know. People feel incredibly, unbelievably entitled to comment on women's appearances, especially those of fat women.
I agree with this. I'm a fit woman but I've seen things like this first hand. For some reason your body is not your own by these people's attitudes.
This especially breaks my heart because she was trying to get herself healthy and in shape. Why would someone attempt to discourage her from ever trying again? To her credit, she seems very secure with herself and is making a good effort to get healthier. You have a good woman on your hands and you're a great guy for being protective of her feelings.
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Yup. It doesn't matter if you're in shape or not, attractive or not, someone still has something to say to you.
I don't understand this! Oh my god!
At my work, we hired a 19 year old girl. My company is like 98% men. We have a woman who is the CFO, and three other women who just had babies and are married so the men kind of don't consider them. I say this because the second this young Asian girl started, guys swooped on her like they were starving vultures.
One guy would interrogate her instead of actually making conversation. Another guy kept coming by her desk and inviting her to the same fucking concert without realizing no meant no (as if work is a place she came to hook up). It got so bad that she made a complaint. Then word go out because the guy the complaint was about has a huge mouth. Anyway, he doesn't work there anymore.
When people found out about the complaint, I heard more than one person say something like "Her!? Really? She's not even that cute."
What the flying fuck!? Who gives a shit about what you think about her appearance?
This kind of shit is why I sometimes feel as a gay man that I care more about women's rights than I do about gay ones. Don't get me wrong, I care about both, but this stuff....
I have a friend who will make some comment to a group of girls and when they aren't receptive, he'll say as an aside but loud enough for them to hear "Whatever they're fat(or ugly) anyways".
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Oh it's mad common.
It's why every time there's a thread on reddit like, 'Why is it not okay for me to tell fat people they're fat? D:', I blow a gasket.
Fat people know they're fat. A fuckton of people tell them they're fat; also, mirrors. If you're feeling offended because you think it's unfair to be called an asshole for pointing out somebody's weight (because, I guess, you think they haven't noticed!?), it's because you really are just an asshole.
30 lbs. ago, strangers had no problem telling me they thought I was fat, or a whale, or a pig, whatever. Now that I've lost it, the guy I went on a date with had no problem making whale noises at a different girl a she passed by our table. I've graduated from 'fat' to 'sexually harassable', so these days I generally get more 'do you fuck?' than I do 'fat bitch', but I'd rather I didn't get either.
I read an interesting piece (I think on Jezebel?) by a woman who had lost a significant amount of weight. She said that once she was thin, her dates and friends that didn't know she had once been overweight suddenly felt comfortable making lots of fat jokes and poking fun at people in public. She said the more weight she lost, the more fat jokes she heard, as if she had joined a club of people who genuinely felt superior to anyone who was overweight. It was quite disturbing.
That sounds pretty familiar. It's probably a common story. I have always been nerdy and average-sized but a couple years ago I got more into fashion and decided to lose some weight so clothes would look better on me (shallow, I know, but clothes are fun). Then I went on vacation, almost died from food poisoning, and dropped another few pounds. I was legitimately thin for the first time in my life (like BMI 18/19) and was quite surprised by the way people treated me.
I was living in a big city at the time and when I was just walking around, people, particularly men, were a lot nicer and friendlier. It was mostly little things but it just felt like the world was happier for me to be in it. It's tempting to chalk it up to my positive energy or body image but I actually felt pretty shitty because I was still weak from food poisoning.
While it made me a bit sad that being thin and well-dressed really does affect the way strangers treat you, what upset me the most was, like you mentioned, the way thin and athletic people just assumed I'd condone and even participate in fat hate. People on the periphery of my friend group who I'd known for a long time were suddenly interested in me. I very briefly dated a guy who proved to be kind of a jerk. He and his friends basically didn't see any woman more than 10 lbs overweight as a real person. Fat guys would be mocked but they'd still be seen as a potential friend, while fat girls only existed to ridicule.
I've since gained most of that weight back but having been thin opened my eyes to the way some of society sees issues of weight and it actually made me more passionate about fat acceptance.
I've lost 6kg in the last few months, going from slightly above average to about average weight, and the change in how people (both men and women) treat me is ridiculous.
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Tbh, this is one reason I'm really grateful for my fat body. I don't get hit on by people like that jerk ex.
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I feel that same awkwardness when people make racist jokes around me (I'm white) because they can see everyone else in the group is white. It really unnerves me that they think I'm part of some 'club' where it's OK to say bullshit just because my skin is white. I always think "No, I'm not part of your little racism club. Don't try to include me on this," and I call them out on it most of the time as well. I'm guessing it's how woman-positive men feel when dudes start saying sexist shit. Anyway, side point.
More to what you're saying, I feel bad looking back on a few years ago, when I had just started uni. I used to say "I feel good when people make fat jokes in front of me, because it means they don't think I'm fat". It's a shameful thing to look back on, but as a teenager who honestly thought she was fat (I was anorexic), I used to look to things like that to prove to myself that I was "OK". So ashamed, but that's how I felt. Sigh.
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It's why every time there's a thread on reddit like, 'Why is it not okay for me to tell fat people they're fat? D:', I blow a gasket.
I wonder how they'd feel if people started telling people they had acne, or male pattern baldness, or that their pants didn't fit them right. HEY YOUR PANTS ARE TOO SHORT I CAN SEE YOUR SOCKS YOU LOOK DUMB.
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Being over weight is one of the worst crimes a woman can commit according to society.
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Just like some guys feel they have a right to cat-call attractive women and harass them, some guys feel they have a right to ridicule heavier women. Usually the former version is to try to get off on some sort of voyeurism, while the latter is more a general affront and "how dare that woman exist at that weight, it offends me!" sort of mentality.
As if their opinion matters to anyone.
There are also plenty of guys who find heavier women attractive and feel like they have the right to cat-call them. My heavier friends actually get more creepy catcalls than outright insults. Once, a guy followed my friend down the street pinching her and saying he liked the fact that she had meat on.
Um, ew. What did she do when he pinched her? I would have freaked the heck out.
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I recently started running on my campus. I've had to alter my route to avoid fraternities and apartment complexes because the insults happen EVERY time. I've come to expect it.
All I can think is "Heay, this guy is trying to fix his problem, lets insult him about it!"
Then again, something I noticed, assholes tend not to act on their own because there is no peer around to look cool in front of. It's never really about the target and more about status. Since destructive behaviour is easier than constructive, it is easier to gain such status by taking an outside down then building something good for the peer group.
There is a frat at my school that ALL women avoid. They sit on their roof and throw shit at girls who walk by. Such fucking douchebags.
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I've heard about frats being notorious for that. I've met a few gay people who all avoid even walking by a certain one so they can skip the insults. A guy from the fraternity too was actually participating in that discussion, he shook his head in shame and said he was sick of that type of behavior from his housemates. I don't know why he would remain in a group like that though. I'd be out of the door as quick as I could pack, but I think the greek system sucks a lot of money out of people, so if they aren't in it for the full year, they're moving back in with mom and dad.
Edit: I should say that when "I've heard about frats being notorious for that," I mean I've heard about specific ones which are problematic, not that frats in general are notorious for that. I certainly can't say I'm a fan of the Greek system, but it'd be unfair to paint them all with the same brush.
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Yep. Men often yell shit out of cars at women--either to let them know they've been found attractive or unattractive. I've gotten both "fat bitch" yelled at me and "heyyy sexy mama!!!" Yelled at me from cars within the same week. Women's bodies are considered topics for public comment, at whatever size. My boyfriend has long hair, and when biking in spandex shorts he used to get catcalled all the time by dudes who would speed off in horror after realizing they'd yelled "hey baby!" at a dude, when they saw his face.
It's not even just when you're exercising! I was walking my dog one night and almost got hit by some idiot who ran a stop sign. I shouted "what the hell dude?!" and he replies "oh calm down" in this really condescending manner. So I flipped him off and he drives off shouting "whatever, you're an ugly b----." The whole rest of the walk I was fuming, thinking "fucker, I'm NOT UGLY." And I'm not...but the comment still hurt.
If it's an consolation, your physical appearance was probably all he could think of to make fun of, since he had nothing else bad he could say about you.
Especially considering he almost hit her running a stop sign. Not much he'd get out of insulting her intelligence.
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Yes, unfortunately it is. You can see how your girlfriend is unconcerned because she's dealt with it before.
There are some men who reduce women to their appearance. When the woman lives up to their standards they give the women approval, ie catcalls, grab ass, etc.. These are the same guys who date women based on sex only and not who the woman is. When the women doesn't live up to their standards they feel free to ridicule the women because the only value they place on her is her appearance. Men rarely get judged this way by women.
Understanding all this is part of becoming a woman. Mostly we pity those men and value those of you who are better than that.
I used to have a "normal" BMI and got a lot of catcalling, groping, leering, etc., which I hated and never learned how to deal with (FWIW I have a pretty face and mad curves). Then I put on weight and started hearing more "Jenny Craig!" and pig sounds. Honestly, I prefer the fatbashing because I can just be offended, without having to pretend to be charmed or recognize that it's meant well or whatever. [EDIT As u/JDNerdlinger says it all comes from the same place, of feeling entitled to expect me to give them boners.]
Over the past few years I've been losing weight, slowly with some ups and downs. Several times I've passed a point of weight loss where "positive" comments start to outnumber the negative ones. I have to grit my teeth to keep going because it takes me right back to the bad old days and makes me miss my security blanket of fat.
my security blanket of fat.
So true.
I had the opposite experience of you. I was a bucktoothed ugly duckling who turned out to be a hot teenager. Thank God and my Mother and Grandmother that I recognized the asses who were now hitting on me are the same asses who used to make fun of me. I think it was then that I realized that it was "from the same place" like u/JDNerdlinger said.
I find myself as a middle aged woman dating again after a long marriage and I'm glad I'm not a hot young woman who will have to spend months to see if a guy is really with her because she's pretty or because he actually likes her.
Be careful out there.
I had a similar experience, although it's just similar and not a parallel because I know women in general deal with a shitload more crap... but as a gay guy who used to date exclusively on the internet. The internet makes you forward so I was just as forward as I was when I was fat as I was when I lost all the weight... I kind of messaged around expecting everyone to reject me. When I was fat, it was all the time. I actually had a guy mix up my profile with someone else (I don't know how, I had pictures), and when I came to the restaurant, he told me to leave. He thought I was 'skinnier.'
That SAME fucker messaged me a year later after I had lost all my weight and updated my photos. That's when I had the realization.
But man, I'm sorry you people have to deal with such gross behavior in public, I really am. I stand up for my women friends because this stuff is really important to me. Don't ever bring me to a rave because I will get in the strange guy's face when he reaches around to slap the fuck out of my friend's ass.
I can definitely attest to this. It's okay to get offended when someone calls you a fatass from his pickup, but it's a pain in the ass when elderly men have wildly inappropriate comments for me, "If I were 40 years younger! Wow, that red hair.." You can't express the same amount of disgust, even if it makes you feel dirtier.
You're exactly right that you can't react the same when the comment is "positive" even if it makes you feel worse. If you say anything you get a reply back "Geez! I was just complimenting you! You women can't take a compliment." or something nastier.
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You never have to pretend to be charmed or recognize it's meant well. A catcall is not a compliment, since a compliment involves engaging with you in such a way that respects that you are a person and seeks your approval for the interaction to happen, rather than treating you as an object and asking that you like it, when you haven't asked for or agreed to the interaction at all.
I know that. But there's always some confrontation, "What's the matter? Are you too good for" and all that. Either way it's an unpleasant interaction you didn't ask for.
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It's common enough in my area that I'm hesitant about running alone. When I've gone out alone in the past, it certainly hasn't happened every time, but it has happened frequently enough for me to anticipate it as a potential Thing. Like, maybe 2 out of every 3 solo runs.
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The one that sticks with me was about 10 yrs and 80 lbs ago. I was walking with my ex-husband (normal weight) on vacation and as we were passing these two guys sitting on a stoop I overheard them discussing, with no degree of discretion whatsoever, whether or not my fat body would be enough of a deterrent for them to want to have sex with me. I heard these arguments made in my defense "her face is alright" and "hey, more cushion for the pushin (high five, hahaha)". Lucky me, huh? I don't know if I was more insulted by the content or by the fact that they felt my extra layers made me deaf, stupid, desperate or not worthy of having feelings. I sped up and tried not to cry until I was out of sight. My ex didn't speak up for me and just tried to pretend it didn't happen, part of why he is my ex. I'm glad you stood up for her. You sound like a keeper.
Yes, absolutely. Comments in shops, on the tube, on a bus. It tends to be younger men/teenagers in a group, and in a sort of undertone as in talking to their friends, but loud enough for me to hear. As I've got older, I've lost weight, but I figure they are always going to be total dickheads, so I stopped worrying about it.
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Nothing like being constantly mooo'ed at while jogging to make you never want to attempt exercising in public again.
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Yes, it happens a lot to female-looking people. Can't speak to dudely experiences.
Actually, I found that I got a lot less hassle when I was 'obese' than when I was just 'overweight'. If you're in a more 'normal' range (typical US sizes I mean, around 10-14) they seem to get super mad that you refuse to give 'em a boner.
They seem to think that either you're too far gone too care about aesthetics if you're actually plus-sized, as the insults then tend towards being health-based (you should die, or you're using up all my health care, etc). But it makes them less angry and more righteous. Less yelling-from-cars, more snotty statements to your face (though don't worry, there's still lots of car-yelling). Or maybe they feel that you've taken yourself so far 'out of the game' that you aren't worth their... advice... as often anymore.
You get a lot more of it when you're younger too.
People are a lot more angry about you supposedly squandering things that are socially precious to them- youth, beauty, and health are the golden trifecta (though they obviously don't truly care about health, or they wouldn't harass people trying to exercise specifically)
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Yup. UK-based here and formerly a UK size 18-20. Notably had someone in the middle of Euston train station in London (which was PACKED, by the way) scream "You fat cunt!" at me across the hall. Wasn't sure whether it was worse that he did it or that nobody else batted a eyelid.
Nobody seems to bat an eyelid over ANYTHING in London. It always surprises me when I go there, it's like there's so many crowds, people forget that other humans are the ones making the crowds, if that makes any sense. A "can't see the wood for the trees" type thing.
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We also have a lot more leeway with our weight before people start to think we are fat.
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In my experience, women usually won't do it without some type of prompting (e.g. trying to talk to one of them) whereas guys will do it whenever.
EDIT: Source: used to be fat, and am still short with a large frame
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Men get made fun of for their weight quite a bit, it's just supposed to be a joke for them, something they should let roll off their back.
Society is just not kind to those not in shape, though I definitely think women are held to a higher standard.
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Probably because a lot of men don't see the difference between an overweight man and a muscular man, there's just "big guys" and "little guys"
I do think such men would notice a difference between obese men and muscular men though.
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"run forest run" is what I normally get, But then when I jog I do strap my legs up.
I get a lot of people yelling when I ride to work, people asking if my bike is made of titanium to avid crushing it, People yelling that riding wont help me and that I need lipo.
That's why I do my real exercise at a Gym, where it's a controlled and safe space. I can't stand to let myself work out outside anymore because I would get at least one remark.
I can't even take positive remarks properly anymore. I've had a few guys come up to me at the gym and say stuff like "keep it up" which is nice, but they don't say nice things like that to the thin women, they only say it to me and the other big girls. It feels like they are saying "wow, You are fat and doing exercise, I'm impressed"
A lady came up to me at the gym and complimented me on how long I had been on the cross trainer, she mentioned she struggles to last 5 minutes, That was nice compliment because she was sharing her thought process behind her words, and they were not about me being large and active, but more about me being resilient.
One thing I don't mind is men and women at the gym saying "are your breasts fake? because they aren't moving" Because it gives me an opportunity to recommend my sports bra to other women who might like it and it makes me feel good to know that someone was looking at my breasts (a part of me that is SUPOSED to have fat on it) and not staring at my chubby tummy.
Umm… May I ask what kind of bra you use to work out? This is always an issue for me.
Panache Sport Its not for everyone due to Panache's shallow cups but the place I got it fitted was amazing and I am recommending it to anyone in VIC Australia. (Brava, In Melbourne)
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I get yelled at from cars a lot, but mostly just whistles or "Heyyy!" I wish I could have a cloak of invisibility for outdoor exercise. I feel bad for your girlfriend... That probably would have made me cry.
This article had a really interesting perspective on this issue from a trans woman. She writes about how people responded to her weight when she was a dude, and how they treat her now that she's a fat woman:http://www.autostraddle.com/fat-trans-and-working-on-being-fine-with-it-168108/
That is fascinating (and damn, that fashion! wish I had half those skills. she is killing it.). I understand about people feeling they were born for a different kind of body and all that, but.
[Hope this doesn't come across as too ignorant. I'm still learning.] It puzzles me sometimes about transgender that people with male bodies have to choose to give up their male privilege and take up the burdens of being a woman to feel at home in their skin. I mean, I respect it. It just seems like a tough choice to have to make.
It blows my mind for the same reason. Personally, I've sometimes struggled with gender identity stuff, but then realized that my desire to sometimes wear men's clothes or be seen as male or masculine was about wanting power. Wanting more power in my relationships, wanting to take up more social and emotional space, wanting more authority. To be clear, this isn't a claim about trans men, just me talking about my personal experience. Anyway, given that it is stunning to me that people willingly give up that privilege. It says a lot about how wrong that role feels for them, or how wrong their bodies feel to them.
Have you read Kate Bornstein's Gender Outlaw? She writes about growing up male and always knowing that that role didn't fit her. So as a young adult, she transitioned to female. She thought if she wasn't male, then she must be female. But after a while, she realizes that she is neither. She was attracted to the way women are allowed to be more emotionally expressive and engaged, but once she tried out that role, she noticed the confines and disadvantages. It's a short, easy, very engaging read for anyone interested in gender stuff.But again, to be clear, I'm not trying to generalize my or her experience onto all trans people; just one interesting vantage point.
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A few months ago on 2xc a trans woman commented that she didn't actually realize how differently she would be treated. It's not easy to see you have a privilege, it's much easier to see that you lack it compared to someone else.
Yeah, this is totally true. Hugo schwyzer wrote an article called something like "why women are more often right", About how women know more about gender dynamics than men because of this. Which, to be fair, is not his concept. The first chapter of Jean Baker Miller's book Towards a New Psychology of Women is all about the psychology of relationships (of whatever kind) where one person or group is dominant and the other is subordinate. She writes about how the subordinate knows more about the dominant than a dominant knows about the subordinate or about itself. The subordinate needs to know more to survive or attempt to thrive.
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I am 'obese' on the BMI, and I work out in public. I have never received public verbal abuse for my size. I get stared at a lot, which is annoying, but you stop noticing that after a while. There are lots of anecdotes of this sort of thing happening to other people, and I'm really sorry it happened to her. It sounds like she's doing awesomely!
I think, if you are really concerned, it'd be nice to make an effort to compliment her or congratulate her on weight loss or work outs. Obviously compliment her on other things too, but especially if you workout together, it's a good opportunity for some nice-ness.
When I was very thin, I used to sometimes get comments about my weight. I think my favorite was a guy yelling out the window, "eat a sandwich and I'd fuck you". Yeah, there is definitely this cultural thing where men think (not all men, but enough of them) that women's bodies are out for public comment. Moving through public space does not make my body public.
I had some guy say something like that to me once. Only it was "Go on a diet, lose 30lbs, and I'd fuck you." My answer to that was "I could lose 100lbs and I still wouldn't fuck YOU." and I just kept on going. I just ignore people like that other than to insult them back sometimes if I feel like it. But I don't get it why men like this feel entitled to tell you how you how you rate on their fuckability scale and how you can improve yourself enough for them to want to. It just makes me laugh, particularly since most of them aren't very fuckable, lol....
There seem to be a significant number of people who think that they are the most desirable human beings in the world.
Yeah. Regardless of my sandwich eating, there was no way I was going to sleep with a guy who yells at women out of car windows, except to say hi to a woman they already know or something.
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Society, in general, believes that they have the right to possess women's bodies. You can see this in marketing campaigns as well as how women are treated. If a woman gains weight I've noticed that many people think it's okay to comment or judge based on that. I don't consider myself obese but not a pencil-thin girl either. I'm more "curvy". I usually fit into a size 10 and am a medium or large in shirts. But despite the fact that I'm generally okay with my size, there have been countless times where people will discuss my weight. I think that's the difference between what happens with men and women.
This is so unfortunate. I have the unfortunate burden of being one of those fucking ass holes at one point in my life (when I was 16 and 17). Now, as an adult I still feel ashamed and regret so much that I said things like that. After reading this thread I actually sent the person I used to heckle a message apologizing...
I have dated women that are a bit heavier and they are incredibly insecure about their looks/weight even though they were beautiful women that I was very attracted to. It's no mystery as to why they felt the way they did though. I am also just finishing my dietetic internship and now that I understand obesity and weight loss/management I feel for these people so much more. Live and learn I guess.
I can't speak for everyone, but I was overweight in high school, and I still remember the exact insults thrown by me, and who they were made by. I'm sure those people have longed since moved on, but "whale" will never fade from my memory. Good for you for sending that apology, no matter how long it's been. I would love to get a note like that.
At least you admit you we're wrong. Reddit is full of people who seem to sincerely think treating heavy people poorly is doing the the victims a favor and they should be praised for giving "fatties" advice and motivation.
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I'm not hugely obese, but I am overweight, and people yell things at me all the time when I'm outside. It's one of the reasons I prefer to exercise at a gym. My husband has gotten insults hurled at him by strangers while riding his bike as well.
Although both men and women experience this, I will say one thing: the only people I've ever known to be the ones actually shouting out these things in public are men. I'm not saying women can't be cruel or vicious. They definitely can, but neither I nor anyone else I know has experienced straight-up, aggressive, face-to-face hatred for their appearance from a grown adult woman who they don't know while simply passing them on the street.
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Yes, this is a thing. It used to happen to me a lot more in college, when I was decidedly obese. I've also been jeered at for not having a shapely enough behind.
And then people wonder why fat women don't want to work out. I would never ever be seen jogging in public, because this is exactly what happens.
I'm a big girl, and it frankly doesn't matter what sort of physical activity I'm doing someone always finds something to shout at me at some point while I'm doing it. When I was track and field in high school it was beached whale, when I was on swim team it was a whale in her natural habitat. Trust me, the list goes on. I'm heavier now that I was in high school, I was larger but lean and very active. I've since had a child, who's now a teen, and I'm working on focusing on me again. It doesn't matter, someone is always an ass. Some people take it more gracefully than others, I couldn't handle it as smoothly as she did.
In my expereince womens bodies are for public consumption, obese bodies are for public comment, obese womens bodies are for public condmenation and, to some, deeply personally offensive.
It's very common. Women only exist to make men sexually aroused, so if you fail to arouse them you must be punished. Also, if you succeed in arousing them then you're asking for abuse (obviously, or you wouldn't have looked so attractive).
I have been fat, thin, and in-between. Men feel the need to scream at me about my weight when I'm in public all the time. Since my partner grew his hair long he's experienced some of it too, from men who don't realize he's a man when they're approaching from a distance. Sometimes when they get close enough to notice that he's male, they'll yell homophobic slurs because he's cheated them out of their right to leer at a hot woman.
There are some people I'd like to smack.
People are jerks. She did the right thing and just let it roll off her. She didn't let it get to her and that's awesome.
Yup. I'm not even very big and I've gotten it since I was a very little kid. People suck.
Strange guys are the biggest crittic of a womans weight, the same guy probbly tells thin girls to eat a sandwich. Put yes, men in cars yell all kinds of mean things.
People love to diminish women, unfortunately. Conventionally attractive/more thin women get charming comments like "BITCH GET OVER HERE YOU'RE SO SEXY I'LL FUCK YOU RIGHT HERE" which, when denied, is followed up with the equally pleasant, "WHATEVER YOU'RE UGLY ANYWAY." This happened to me in the subway not too long ago, verbatim. Charming fellow.
Unfortunately it's only worse for larger women, who get all of the sexual explicit comments AND all of the fat comments AND some depraved combination of both.
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People are harassed a lot in public in general. Street harassment isn't viewed as a big deal by most people and unfortunately it's an almost daily occurrence in my life. Frankly, I'm sick of it.
In my experience as a hetero female, most men are genuinely shocked to hear that women are harassed as much as they are. This kind of harassment is also experienced by many LGBT people and anyone who doesn't fit into a harasser's view of what someone should look like. It really doesn't matter who you are, if someone has a superficial problem or desire concerning you they will simply choose to NOT KEEP THEIR DAMN MOUTH SHUT then you will be harassed. This should anger the shit out of men everywhere, because street harassment is one of the many ways women are trained to be paranoid in public places, and is probably one of the MANY reasons that it might not be okay for you to randomly approach that cute lady in line in front of you at the coffee shop.
Say what you will about Jezebel, but this video is pretty revealing about people who actually think others ENJOY being the targets of street harassment: http://jezebel.com/5955644/fgeryterr5yjhytjw-kamau-bell-hits-the-streets-to-ask-whats-so-wrong-with-a-little-cat-calling
A friend of mine used to do the same. She said if she goes out walking or jogging when it's not dark, people would not only shout at her, but throw their drinks (and McD's garbage and such) at her. It's messed up.
I only ran after dark for a while, but I had a scary incident where a dude "hit" on my and didn't like my wary response and followed me all the way home screaming shit at me. I'm lucky my bf was awake and home, because I don't know if I would have been able to safely get in the house without him standing there looking like he was ready to tear that guy's face off.
Now I'm too scared to run after dark, so I only run when all of the college students are out running. I figure it gives the people who yell shit more targets, so maybe it dilutes the incidents you personally experience.
Same here. Whats worse is I have brown skin which means I get yelled at a lot, have soda thrown at me, etc.
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Yep. I was riding my bike home one night, and some tard yelled "Fuck you, fat bitch!" I'll never forget it, and I sincerely hope that that particular charmer had hot pokers inserted into his eyeballs.
EDIT: Wow, reading all the things in here... I was just about ready to go running outside for the first time, but wow... I'm just never going outside. (Why was my first thought on this to carry a large rock to throw at ass-cars?)
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I may not be obese, but I was blessed with large thighs and a booty. One day I was out for a run, and overheard someone (who was larger than me) say "oh my god, look at that jiggle, it's horrible".
In my head, I was like "Girl, I just ran 10 miles. What have you done today??" and then promptly brushed it off. It seems like girlfriend is doing pretty well with handling it and not letting it get to her! Which is awesome :)
I gave a homeless man change once and he said thanks. Then he added, "you would be a lot prettier if you weren't fat".
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This is just so stupid. Women are constantly being compared to modern beauty standards, where "thin is in". If they do not meet this standard, they are harassed and looked down at. When they attempt to change their lifestyle and become healthier, they get harassed by these dumbasses. Can't catch a break from these pigheads.
happens a lot and not just to larger women, guys seem to love yelling mean or obscene things at women out of moving cars, in fact it just happened to me an hour ago bunch of guys in a truck called me a bitch, no idea who they were.
I've also had a box of chicken fingers thrown at me.
I'm between a size 2/4.
All the time. That's why I bought a fucking treadmill and never go to the gym.
They want us to be thin but they laugh at us for trying to get there.
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About 6 months ago or so, I went to a bar with some guys for a friend's birthday. There was a girl there also celebrating her birthday as well (with her huge party of like 15+, we had three people). One of the guys we went used to be really overweight but has done a complete 180, and now all he cares about is his body.
People have such hatred for larger people and I hate it, but not as much as I hate a former fat person contributing to the bile. And this fucker was exactly that.
Birthday girl, a larger woman, was drunk as fuck and having a blast. She was leaning over another friend laughing and talking, and of course, you know gravity happened. This douche looks over and loudly exclaims "UGH! WE DON'T NEED TO SEE THAT!?" He was pointing directly at her stomach.
That poor woman's face look like she died inside. I stood there for a good five seconds literally shocked that this happened. What makes me rage, and I told him this, is that this woman got herself dressed, most likely looked in the mirror and deemed herself acceptable for herself. And that's all that fucking matters. She didn't get dressed to be loudly critiqued by some drunk asshole stranger. Who I also don't want to be associated with.
Fuck all those people, god they make me so angry.
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Here the thing, it's not just larger women.
All women get heckled and harassed on a pretty regular basis.
I've an autoimmune disease that's nailing my thyroid. I have to really work at being fit if I don't want to be otherwise and even then it's a real struggle. I've been thin. I've been thick. I'm currently in between.
Yeah, it happens. What's funny to me is the person doing it doesn't usually have room to boast. When I was at my heaviest I had a guy in a store tell me to "Move my fat ass!" so he could get to something on a shelf. He was balding, gap toothed, and had at least 35lb extra pounds on his own gut. I just looked at him, looked pointed at his gut, then his hair and said "Well, I may have a fat ass but at least I have all the hair on my head and I'm not beer gutted and butt ugly like you are you rude son of a bitch!"
My parents did not raise me to take that kind of thing graciously, and I am not shy when it comes to dealing with creeps. He went red and about exploded, but he didn't say another word. He just grabbed his cart and sped away. There were 3 other women on that aisle and I got a round of spontaneous applause from all of them.
Honestly I don't care much what other people think about my weight. If I'm thin, some people want to feed me. If I'm thick people tell me ever so kindly that I need to diet. Or outright insult me. Like I need their humble opinions on the matter. The fit of my jeans is all I care about. When I start to bust out of them I know it's time to cut back and start exercising a bit more. But I still think I'm lovable whether I'm 120 lbs or 165 and anyone who doesn't think so can kiss my lily white sometimes fat ass for all I care.
I don't need anyone else to tell me what I should look like or what I should weigh. I know my body. I know what I have to do just to be remotely thin and I don't particularly feel like spending 4 hours in a gym, and yes, that IS what it would take for me, to measure up to someone else's idea of fashionably svelte. With my health issues I have enough trouble staying thin eating 1400-1600 cals a day and gently working out an hour a day.
What they want? It's just too extreme for me and I have better things to do with my time. I don't feel like putting myself in the hospital besides. I'm half crippled with arthritis. Exercise truly hurts for me no matter how careful I am about it.
I like how I look actually at a higher weight than the charts say is best for my height. I can't be 105lbs. I have made it to 112 but I was actually sick then and too thin really. I'm a genuinely curvy girl, always have been. My best weight is actually about 125, about 20lbs more than most charts say for my height. I'm not big boned overall but I do have curves. I'm built petite but stacked and the boobs don't go away just because I get thinner, neither do the hips.
All I can do is walk and lift a few weights and try to eat well, and even then I will NEVER be a size 0. I will never be a size 6 for that matter. I'm a size 12 at my thinnest because I have DD boobs and "womanly hips" as my Mom used to put it. Like her. She was built pretty much the same way.
I'm built like a "brick shit house." That's what my Dad says, laugh. I'm just not built like a fashion model and I have no aspirations towards being built like one. Short of plastic surgery and even then, sorry, they could not change it "all" even with lipo, I could never look like that. I could reduce the boobs, and have thought about it, kills my back, but there's no erasing curvy hip bones.
People who do this they're just ignorant fools who have nothing better to do with their time. Treat them as such. Ignore them, flip them off or insult them back if it makes you feel better, but do realize that you are not in any way obligated to care about anything they say. If your GF is beautiful to herself and to her man. That's all that matters.
Fit is a relative term. There are many different body types out there. What one person thinks is "fat" or "skinny" often isn't. I can be 125 and be very fit actually even at 5 ft 3. There are a lot of people who probably would consider even that fat, but it's not and when I am at that weight generally people don't even believe it. They think I am smaller than I actually am. I practically have to get on a scale and show them. It's absurd...
I like the term "happy weight." It's the weight YOU feel best in, regardless of how you maintain it; not the weight your height says you should be.
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one time I was standing on the street with my friends, completely minding my own business and not even speaking when some guy shouted "YOU'RE FAT" right in my face. for no reason whatsoever. I was so surprised and insulted I couldn't even respond as he stumbled away. I'm 5'9 and in my opinion, pretty average.
Sadly, yes. Not only to larger women. Some men are fucking douchebags! Check out the Everyday Sexism Project to see how widespread this shit is. I'm glad you're horrified by this, you sound like a nice guy.
Happens to me all the time. ALL. THE. TIME. And it's not just guys--I passed a group of girls on the sidewalk once…I was nice enough to move around them so they could all continue to walk as a group instead of filing into a line, and what do they do to thank me? Moo at me. Stare into my eyes, moo at me, and continue on their way.
I would have gotten into a fist fight then and there.... Or barked at them. Bitches.
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Yep. To be honest though you're public property of you're a woman. When I was slimmer I'd get "phwoarr" and "look at those tits!", now I get the occasional gratuitous insult. Usually people who are also walking/jogging (and therefore can't run away too quickly) tend to just look at me in pity as I'm always the obvious big girl-sometimes I get surprised (verging on patronising) "well done!" comments too. Those I actually enjoy as I like confounding expectations.
My neighbor called me a fat bitch through the window a couple of weeks back, just because he saw me. I am not that big a girl either. My point is, yes, this happens fairly frequently. Good on your girl for not being phased by it. It's the reason I'm ashamed to work out in public.
I was walking down the street when I was 17 and some random guy pulled over to tell me that I was "the ugliest piece of shit he'd ever seen." and then drove away.
I'm also a man and the first time I witnessed something like this, I responded like you, with shock. Turns out it happens a lot, and the reason you and I are shocked is that it happens to men a lot less. Men are shamed for being fat, certainly, but not to the same degree as overweight women, by a wide margin. There's a complicated answer as to why this is, but a quick summary is that there's a tendency in society to place far more value on a woman's physical beauty than a man's.
Your girlfriend responded in a very mature way, however she's a human being just like the rest of us and I'm absolutely sure that hurt. This might be a good opportunity for you, someone she trusts and respects, to let her know how amazing it is that she's putting in the work to get healthy. Because you used to be overweight, you know how hard she's working, and losing 40 lbs. is a big deal.
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BTW The standard answer to rude comments about your fat is, don't worry, it's not for you, scumbag. It's true, and it generally works.
I'm not actually overweight, but I'm curvy by the technical definition. There's a slur for every body type, and there are guys out there who will scream them at you if you aren't their version of attractive.
I have an average BMI and I run at night for this reason alone. I don't wanna hear anything from anyone, just let me do my thing.
Semi related, a few years ago my roommate and I were walking back to our apartment from the library and some kids yelled "Fucking Chink!" out the window at my roommate (he's asian) from their car as they drove past us. I think people like making themselves feel better by making fun of others.
You have no idea what it's like to be an overweight woman in this society.
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The answer is yes.
As a guy no one gave me shit about anything, as a woman men feel inclined to give me (and other women) shit about anything. That is one of the MANY ways "male privledge" still exists in the west.
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I want to hug your girlfriend. If this happened to me, I wouldn't be able to jog home because I'd be crying too hard. People are so fucking mean.
This has happened to me multiple times. Young women have been much worse to me than men have, actually. I try not to react to in when I'm in public but it sticks with me. So much so that now I've lost some weight and I can't get over the mindfuck that no matter how much weight I've lost strangers are still going to look at me and see a fat person. Of course anything I do I do for myself, not some hateful strangers, but that thought is still in the back of my mind and sometimes it haunts me.
Yeah I wouldn't press it either. Sounds like she handled it like a champ, and I totally commend her for that. Its happened many times to me in my life, being a bigger chick. The most recent was a few years ago, walking down a street by myself one morning when this lady who really looked like a crackhead was walking towards me and then gets about 5-10 paces behind me before saying really loud "wow you need to lose some weight."
I do notice that shit like that doesn't happen when my husband is around, so yeah the asshole probably didn't realize she wasn't by herself.
People can be such assholes when they know they can get away with it.
Yeah; it's a thing. I've heard every variation of whale, godzilla, miming the earth is shaking when I walk by. There are a lot of assholes out there.
I'm 6'2", large-chested, slightly full figure, but not in the obese range. Still, I've been heckled when doing an exercise that makes my body look awkward. Yeah, it happens. You can either let it get to you or let it roll off. It's deeply offensive to some people that not all women are tiny, petite cheerleaders. Especially if we dare to (gasp!) exercise.
Just wanted to add, though, that your girlfriend sounds like a friggin' awesome lady! It's pretty painful when that happens, and the fact that she doesn't let it trip her up, and keeps on doing whatever the heck she wants is definitely a mark of her character.
I walk home every day from work, and my route takes me across the university campus, and by some student housing. They are not nearly as bad, as some of the asshole road workers, construction workers, and assorted asshats in the cars that drive past. My favorite was some douche driving a total beater mobile who was so intent at yelling at me he missed that his light had changed and ended up getting a ticket for running a red light. Ah, instant Karma is gonna get ya, dude!
Yes. When I was heavier and working on losing weight, I had a woman straight up tell me I was fat and disgusting WHILE I WAS AT THE GYM!
I also had a few oink-bys and once something thrown at me.
I was really afraid that something like this would happen when I started exercising outside of the gym, but I went down to the beach near my house where there are no cars, only foot traffic and a ton of other joggers. It turned out to be a nice experience with the other runners and joggers all smiling and waving at me and each other.
Sometimes they got condescending. One time a lady actually patted my arm and said "don't worry, you'll get there one day." But that was the worst of it, and it wasn't that bad.
It happens to all girls, and a fair amount of boys I'm sure, it just depends, if someone feels very strongly that you are attractive they feel the need to screech it out the window at you, also if they find you wholly unnapealing they feel the need to let you know that too.
large man here, and yeah i can't count the sheer amount of abuse i have received in public. insults and mocking and even occasionally items get thrown at me too.
this has more than contributed to my hatred of people and my antisocial behavior. i don't like going out into public unless i have to.
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