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Suggested use: Mix four scoops of Ultimate Nutrition Muscle Juice® Revolution 2600 (about 255 grams) with18 oz. (533 mL) water or milk; chill and serve. To maximize muscle gains and enhance your exercise program, take oneserving 30-45 minutes pre-workout, and a second serving one hour afterward. On non-training days, take one serving between meals in the morning and a second serving between meals in the afternoon. Due to the time release nature of Muscle Juice® Revolution 2600, it is the perfect gainer to be taken right before bed
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Serving Size 4 Scoops Servings Per Container 18 Amount Per Serving % DV Calories from Fat 30.00 Total Fat 14.00 g 22% Saturated Fat 4.00 g 20% Cholesterol 140.00 mg 47% Sodium 150.00 g 6% Total Carbohydrate 176.00 g 59% Protein 56.00 g 112% Calcium 0.00 0% Iron 0.00 0% Calories 1020.00 Octo-PRO™ Protein Blend 68.70 g ** Milk Protein Concentrate ** Whey Protein Isolate ** Milk Protein Isolate ** Micellar Casein ** Whey Protein Concentrate ** Hydrolized Whey Protein ** Egg Isolate ** Calcium Caseinate ** Time Released Complex Carbohydrate Blend 178.10 g ** Rice maltodextrin ** Corn Maltodextrin ** Karbo-lyn ** Healthy Fatty Acid Blend 9.00 g ** CLA ** Omega 3 ** Other Omega-3s ** Total Omega-3s ** EPA (Eicosapentaenoic Acid) ** DHA (Docosahexaenoic Acid) ** Canola ** MCT ** Glutamine Blend 2.00 g ** L-Glutamine ** L-Alanyl-L-Glutamine ** Enzyme Blend 250.00 mg ** Lactase ** Protease 660 HUT ** ** Daily Value (DV) not established
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Pumping Up? How to Pick Your Protein Supplement
Pumping Up? How to Pick Your Protein SupplementOur protein supplement guide will help you excel on the court, in the gym, or on the roadIf you take your workouts seriously, nutrition should be top of mind too. Protein is a great place to start, and focusing on getting the right types of protein, in the right amounts, and at the right times is key. Our protein supplement guide will help you meet your wellness goals, potentially improving your performance on the court, in the gym, or on the road.What type?
Whey protein is quick to digest and provides all of the protein building blocks - the amino acids. Our bodies cannot make some amino acids, and whey is ideal for meeting essential amino acid needs. Whey also supplies branched-chain amino acids (BCAA), and some research supports that they aid muscle recovery after hard workouts.
Compared with whey, casein is slower to digest, and results in a lower, yet more prolonged rise in blood amino acid levels, which may provide a particular advantage for body builders. At least one study supports that casein outshines whey in terms of promoting strength and lean body mass gains in people following a structured weight-training plan.
Rice protein is less likely to create allergic reactions than other proteins, and it comes from a plant, making it appropriate for vegetarians. Another potential advantage is that rice protein contains a high proportion of arginine, an amino acid that can dilate blood vessels, possibly enhancing blood flow to muscles. Rice is not a "complete" protein however; it doesn't supply all of the essential amino acids. Some products combine rice protein with proteins from sources like soy or milk to make it complete.
Egg protein is ideal for people who are looking to build new muscle. It has a very high protein efficiency ratio (PER), which is one measure of how well our bodies can use any particular form of protein. The higher the PER, the more efficiently our bodies can use that protein when we eat it. Egg is off the charts in terms of PER. Egg protein also is a complete protein, and is a good source of essential and branched chain amino acids. Egg protein powder is made from egg whites, and comes in a convenient, pasteurized powder form.
Soy protein is a high-quality plant protein that provides all essential amino acids, making it a good option for vegetarians. For the body to best utilize soy protein, vegetarians should also eat grain or dairy within a few days. Soy protein comes in two basic forms: soy protein isolate and soy protein concentrate. Soy protein isolate is the most highly purified form, and has a minimum protein content of 90%. Soy protein concentrate contains more carbohydrates, and has a protein content of approximately 70%. Concentrates tend to cost a little less, but if you find soy protein concentrate doesn't agree with you, try isolate, which is easier for some people to digest.
How much?
With protein, as with many nutrients, more is not always better. According to Dr. Doug Paddon-Jones, Associate Professor at the University of Texas Medical Branch and Director of Exercise Studies, "30 grams of protein appears to stimulate maximum muscle synthesis. For athletes, each meal and snack is a chance to hit the 30 gram mark, giving your body several opportunities each day to maximize muscle growth and repair."
Another reason to spread protein evenly through the day is simple efficiency. "Given that your body won't use much beyond 30 grams of protein at a time, it doesn't make sense to load up with more than this," says Paddon-Jones.
- Breakfast-To support muscle building first thing in the morning, try trading traditional carb-heavy breakfast foods for more protein-rich options, such as a powder protein supplement mixed with milk and cereal.
- If you're heading into a long strength-training session-Sipping a casein-based protein supplement prior to and during your workout will give muscles sustained access to amino acids. If taken in the evening, casein can provide a steady supply of amino acids while you're sleeping.
- Immediately pre- or post-workout-Especially if your workout includes aerobic or circuit training, protein manufacturers recommend a whey protein-based liquid or powder supplement.
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- Builds muscle (8)
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- Quickens recovery time (5)
- Boosts energy (3)
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- Builds Muscle
- Good Value
- Quickens Recovery Time
- Tastes Good
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- After Workout
- Before Bed
- During Recovery
- Everyday
Comments about ULTIMATE NUTRITION® Muscle Juice Revolution 2600 - Cookies and Cream:
I tried this product based on the size and the great price and I ended up gaining a lot of size and strength. I have bought this product a ton and will do so in the future. You can't beat this product for gaining mass!!
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- Builds Muscle
- Great value
- Tastes like a desert
- Not quite enough protein
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- After Workout
- Before Bed
Comments about ULTIMATE NUTRITION® Muscle Juice Revolution 2600 - Cookies and Cream:
This product gives you a lot of servings for your money! It tastes great, especially for it being a weight gainer. I look forward to taking it post workout and before bed because it tastes great. I wish it had a little more protein and it would be a perfect weight gainer for my bulking.
- Boosts Energy
- Builds Muscle
- Good Value
- Quickens Recovery Time
- Tasty
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- In between meals
Comments about ULTIMATE NUTRITION® Muscle Juice Revolution 2600 - Cookies and Cream:
After breakfast I make my shake and I also drink it after lunch. One Con that I dont like too much is that 1 serving is 4 scoops and you need a big enough shaker bottle to handle that and the milk or whatever your poison. I havent found any shaker so i do 2.5-3 scoops but its still chunky. It works, its healthy, and it tastes good. cant ask for too much more.
Comments about ULTIMATE NUTRITION® Muscle Juice Revolution 2600 - Cookies and Cream:
I use the product two to
three times a day.
I already see results
but don't like the fact
That you have to use
4 scoops per serving.Pros
- Gained weight
- Tastes Great
- Clumpy
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gotta say, the best value out there, they try to sell you something else cause they say its better, but stick with this cause.... you get 18 servings of it, oppose to the 10 or 11 servings of any other product. it may be 15 dollars more than the other ones but again, way more servings for the value. IT DOES THE JOBcookies and creme is the best flavour because the chunky effect of this formula simulates a cookies and cream chocolate bar melting in your mouth making the texture not so gross feeling. i have gained mass using this, while sticking with my normal meals.
- Builds Muscle
- Good Value
- Quickens Recovery Time
- Tasty
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- After Workout
- Before Workout
- Everyday
Comments about ULTIMATE NUTRITION® Muscle Juice Revolution 2600 - Cookies and Cream:
Excellent Product. Not only are the flavors good, but it doesn't leave you bloated and really does help gain weight. I take about 3 scoops in the morning for breakfast and 3 in the afternoon after my workout. All the calories affects my appetite so I have to space usage out with meals. Thus far I have gained about 12 pounds in 3 weeks. Need to utilize while working out for best results.
- Boosts Energy
- Builds Muscle
- Good Value
- Quickens Recovery Time
- Tasty
- Clumpy mixed in a shaker
- Doesn't mix well
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Comments about ULTIMATE NUTRITION® Muscle Juice Revolution 2600 - Cookies and Cream:
use it daily, 2.5 scoops does me good/
It very sweet if using 4 scoops, great to mix with water but avoid milk cause you will get bloated.
Great thing is great about it but doesn't seem to filly mix in a shaker with ice.Pros
- Boosts Energy
- Good Value
- Tasty
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- Before Workout
Comments about ULTIMATE NUTRITION® Muscle Juice Revolution 2600 - Cookies and Cream:
This is a good mass builder and follow directions to see results.
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Comments about ULTIMATE NUTRITION® Muscle Juice Revolution 2600 - Cookies and Cream:
This product is good for weight gaining and building mass. You have to work out daily
- Builds Muscle
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- Quickens Recovery Time
- Tasty
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Comments about ULTIMATE NUTRITION® Muscle Juice Revolution 2600 - Cookies and Cream:
This mass gainer really gave me the mass I needed for sports and it was a great value! Tasted great and didn't give me the bloated feeling afterwards. Strongly suggest!
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The end is nigh!
By which I mean the end of the election cycle, and thank Cthulhu for that, because the onslaught of negative TV ads was honestly grating on my last nerve. Sad to say, I'm actually looking forward to the non-stop ads for Christmas shopping sales.
With Election Day tomorrow, I'm going to offer some thoughts on various races. I wouldn't call them endorsements per se, since I think endorsements are worthless, but I will opine about who I think should win.
I'll start at the top and say that I want Obama to get a second term. I say this as someone who voted for Obama and has often been disappointed in his performance over the past four years — but not so much as to give him the boot and put Romney in the Oval Office.
I find Romney to be as disingenuous and insincere a politician as you could get, but that's not why I oppose him. Nor do I oppose him on his rather vague financial policies, which I believe are ultimately no better or worse than Obama's (though I definitely do not subscribe to trickle-down/supply-side economics as a viable and sustainable economic model).
What is driving me away from Romney in a huge way: I believe he would champion a social agenda that sets back civil rights for women and homosexuals. If you've read the GOP's official policy paper for the 2012 election (I have), you'll see that it codifies repressing rights for same-sex couples and, specifically, women in the military. Our President is supposed to champion equal rights for all citizens, and anyone who would repress rights in the name of some ill-defined greater social good doesn't deserve the nation's top seat.
If Obama is re-elected, my hope is that the GOP ceases its efforts to stop Obama's major economic initiatives cold in the name of political gamesmanship and works with him to craft policies that are in everyone's best interests — not just the uber-rich, not just the very poor, everyone.
US Senate
I'm one step away from flipping a coin at the voting booth, because I really don't care for either Scott Brown or Elizabeth Warren. Neither of them has impressed me so much that I'm falling over myself to vote for them.
Let me first say that Dan Botelho is probably the best third-party/non-party candidate this area has seen in years. He's not a righteously indignant one-issue ideologue, which is largely what has emerged to run against the party candidates, but a thoughtful and well-informed candidate with some good ideas.
Christopher Sheldon, while a decent candidate, never struck me as a great candidate, and definitely not a superior choice to Congressman William Keating. His critics like to say "Keating hasn't done anything for this district!" but that is a patently false statement. His record of achievement is fairly good for a first-term Congressman, and he has treated the Cape as well as his predecessor Bill Delahunt ever did.
State Senate
I think Cape voters would be nuts to let Senate President Therese Murray (D – Plymouth) go, in good part because of that title in front of her name; as Senate President, she has the mojo to get things done for her district in a big way. She's also spearheaded some significant reform efforts over the past two or three terms, so she's not sitting on her hands doing nothing.
Tom Keyes has run a much better campaign than in 2010, and I fully expect another close race between him and Sen. Murray, but so much of his campaign has been based in reactionary statements that try to paint Sen. Murray as a corrupt, ineffective do-nothing. If Murray were to state, "I like cats," Keyes would issue a press release accusing her of being in the pocket of Big Dog. He hasn't really distinguished himself as a superior alternative to the incumbent, and if he does come out on top, I would say Murray lost the race rather than Keyes won it.
Barnstable County Commissioners
Mary Pat Flynn and Sheila Lyons should be returned to the board, because Eric Steinhilber has not proven himself worthy of ousting either of the incumbents.
Mr. Steinhilber chose the wrong tentpole issue in the "MWRA on Cape Cod" to-do, stuck to his guns far longer than he should have once that topic's shelf-life expired back in the summer, and has failed to show voters why his opposition to a taxpayer-funded wastewater authority is somehow better, more reliable, or just plain different than Ms. Flynn's or Ms. Lyons'.
I directly asked Mr. Steinhilber why voters should believe him when he says "I oppose a wastewater authority" but doubt the incumbents when they say it, and he did not provide a good answer; his argument was, basically, he was dead-set against it and Flynn and Lyons were not — and he did not elaborate whether he thought they were lying or were simply easily manipulated dupes who could be bullied into changing their minds.
That, coupled with his lackluster ideas on other issues and failure to recognize OpenCape as a potential economic engine for the region, make him ill-suited for the job compared to Flynn and Lyons — and that's a shame because I had high hopes for the guy. I maintain he would have made a better challenger for State Senator Dan Wolf (D – Harwich) in 2010 than Jim Crocker, but the man needs to be better about doing his homework and distinguishing good issues from bad (or non-) issues.
Question One
The Right to Repair question is a tricky one, but let's be clear about one thing: voting "no" on Question One does NOT negate the Right to Repair Law passed earlier this year; a "no" vote is against the ballot question only.
What a "yes" vote would do is set the stage for a mess in the Legislature. By approving a RtR Law via the ballot, voters would be overriding the existing law, which lawmakers approved after several failed efforts in the face of staunch opposition by the auto industry. The existing law may have flaws, but it would be better to address those flaws through the legislative process than by forcing lawmakers to either entirely scrap the law they crafted — or create a compromise law, or ignore the will of the voters completely and keeping the current version.
Tags: Barack Obama, Barnstable County commissioners, Cape Cod Wastewater Authority, Christopher Sheldon, Dan Wolf, Daniel Botelho, Elizabeth Warren, Eric Steinhilber, Jim Crocker, Mary Pat Flynn, Mitt Romney, Ninth Congressional District, Scott Brown, Senate President Therese Murray, Sheila Lyons, State Senate - Plymouth & Barnstable, Tom Keyes, William Keating
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i would say the game is easy once you learn how pal yreally good and get tha hang of it .
It is easy, but it can be moderate and its really fun to play.
This game is waaaaayyyy tooo easy and it doesn't have enough gameplay. I still play it because my brother and I play Co-Op together!
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well before you know it you,will run ito me and get destroyed in all naruto games
what do you guys define as beat?
i believe beat means every thing completed
the story line is easy tho once you get the hang of it
being not all that great at completetion, it's when i see the credits in the game. That's what i call beat.
totally easy got everything every single thing in one tine beating like 5 times anyone can do it if they try
It was fun but easy
I found the game easy and really really boring comparing to first one which was much better. I think they should make another one Shippuuden*with more action with Akatsuki.


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Rape Club, a group of like-minded men. Team are going to Filth now.
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to be part of another group of people, working togeter there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in "pie", and there is an "I" in "meat pie" so techniqly there is an "I"
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a group of people mainly a guy and a list of numerous women whom he may have sex with not at the same time of course. they're just women he has sex with or could have sex with at any given time Guy's Buddy: damn famo she thick as hell
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TEAM is another way to say "Everybody but me." It's popular in corporate environments where an asshole wants work done, but doesn't want to do it, but wants to seem like they want to. Therefore they start their email with "TEAM" Here's an example email text:
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You've got to look at the guy next to you, look into his eyes. Now I think your going to see a guy who will go that inch with you. Your gonna see a guy who will sacrifice himself for his team, because he knows when it comes down to it your gonna do the same for him. Thats the definition of a Team, and either we live as a team, or we die as individuals. Thats life my friends.
As defined by Al Pacino. Dude 1: hey man would you be willing to sacrifice yourself for me?
Dude 2: hmm i dunno, would you do the same for me? Dude 1: yeah sure. Dude 2: ok then. Dude 1: sweet. guess that makes us a team. |


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For children who are preteen or teen, a meal at their favorite restaurant will also offer an opportunity to eat and have good conversation.
But while there is a need to focus on the younger ones in the family, there is a definite need to focus on the older family members ...
Wisdom found in matriarch, patriarch
A lot of times, families forget about the fountain of wisdom and knowledge that older relatives have.
The holiday season offers a perfect opportunity to show love and respect to one of the elders in the family and to also gather important family stories.
While many things in life remain the same, there are many things that change. Elders can provide a firsthand account of how things used to be. They also contain information that, if they should die without telling, will be forever lost.
According to Kimberly Powell, a professional genealogist, a few questions that will provide invaluable information are: What was your house like? How were holidays celebrated in your family? How is the world different today than it was when you were a youth?
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Spring-Like Temps for Friday: How Will You Take Advantage?
Technically, it's winter, but the forecast for the next two days is for spring-like temperatures. Get out and do something with it, because the true season will be upon us before you know it!
Barrington residents will enjoy a high of 56 degrees Friday and a high of 50 degrees on Saturday. Better take advantage!
According to the forecast from the National Weather Service, there is just a 20 percent chance of rain and areas of fog before 9 a.m. Friday. Otherwise, the forecast is cloudy with a high near 56. Saturday will be be partly sunny, with a high near 50 degrees.
By Saturday night, however, there is a 50 percent chance of snow.
Here are a few ideas for the mild weather:
Get your car washed and waxed in preparation for winter, and ultimately, road salt at Fast Eddies in Barrington.
Enjoy some frozen treats at Kaleidoscoops in Barrington or Bamboo Spoon frozen yogurt in South Barrington.
Take your dog for a nice long walk or toss a ball around in one of Barrington's parks.
How will you spend the day? Tell us in the comments.
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Make time for art, start painting with watercolors, class still open @FPDCC Crabtree Nature Center from 1-3PM Sat. Jan 12 reservation call 847.381.6592
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Are there any sandbox MMORPGs, past or present, that were financially successful? I don't care about how fun or interesting they were to play. I'm just trying to guage how many there are or were. Also, this is not a bait thread. I don't have a "zinger" waiting or anything like that. I'm just looking for a credible list of sandbox MMORPG games (past or present) with a proven record of financial success. Top Games Played APR 2013: World of Warplanes, Guild Wars 2 |
UO, Eve, Wurm Online and prolly a couple more
Wurm Online and EVE are the only things that coms to mind
Originally posted by BitterClinger Ultima Online - While it's currently not in the same form as it was released, it's been a cash cow for Electronic Arts. Their overhead is EXTREMELY low (in comparison to other subscription based MMOs) and still has a respectable following, considering the competition in the market. One could make an argument that the reason we haven't seen many sandbox MMOs is because of the high cost associated with modern 3D MMOs. In order to recoup the money invested, the games have to appeal to a broader audience (mainstream themepark types). |
Originally posted by RajCaj Forgot about EVE......if only it wasn't a ship avatar in deep space lol |
From what I've heard Darkfall recouped development costs, paid off Aventurine loans*, and possibly covered development costs for DF:UW. I'm not sure if that would be called economically viable, but it does seem to have generated a fair amount of revenue. * at very least kept the payments current. |
I don't know if Uncharted Waters Online was financially successful, but it's done well enough for Koei to find it worthwhile to release a whole bunch of expansions for it, and they're still releasing new stuff as fast as ever nearly eight years after release.
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Joined: 1/13/10 EVE in 2013 - DUST 514, CSM8, Fanfest, 10th Anniversary, Uprising, Odyssey. Gonna be a good year :) |
Originally posted by Azoth A Tale in the Desert Free Realms Vendetta Online Red Light Center (NSFW) Sociolotron Second Life filmoret: One thing I have never figured out is why the game devs hardly ever fix simple problems that arise. It is like they don't care about the pvp community. Nitth: What makes you so sure its a simple fix? filmoret: Because most of them are. Sometimes its just changing a number in a code string other times its creating a few variables. However none of them should take over a few hours of coding. |
SWG made money for SOE, even with the licence fees to LA, it had several years bringing in 4m dollars a month.
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Financially Viable List:
Blockbuster List (self-sustaining, self-expanding):
Ok, so folks will probably argue with me on the separation of these lists, but some of the other titles from the first list can hardly pay their own upkeep. For example, Vendetta Online has a kickstarter for a possible expansion in 2013. So, while these games might be "paying the bills", they aren't able to generate enough revenue to hire new developers and add infrastructure. Top Games Played APR 2013: World of Warplanes, Guild Wars 2 |
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Viable is a term that could have a few different meanings, Did DarkFall make money, you bet. Did they make enough to develop DF 2? NO, they have investers from Korea now. In their defence, they have a substantial building, and have employed a few people thru the years, HAHA could well be Greece's largest employer! not.
Originally posted by RajCaj That's a very good point. So what is it about "sandbox" MMOs that don't attract a lot of customers? I mean, it's not like all the people playing World of Warcraft or Guild Wars 2 thought to themselves, "I really like themepark games". There must be something about the way themepark games are designed that appeals to more users. Are they easier to play or just easier to learn? Is the "themepark" user base just more "New Player" friendly than sandbox players? Is it something else entirely? Top Games Played APR 2013: World of Warplanes, Guild Wars 2 |
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What you also have to consider is the source that is making such a game. Most have been Indie titles, and when putting that into the equation there has been a massive amount of success with the Sandbox MMO genre as is. Heck, even if you consider the large player run servers of Minecraft (minecraft itself) you see a love of pure sandbox games. Ultima Online was made by an Indie developer that was later bought by EA; if a game has a large budget behind it, it could do even more than what has already been shown by small budget companies and their great success. The Crystal's Call Gameplay Trailer: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/blog/post/383 Tour of Eorzea Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JQ87KtH1G8 Six hours of FFXIV 1.0 Cutscenes: http://www.twitch.tv/thaze_tv/b/338928300 |
As other posters already said, plenty of sandboxes are doing well from an economical point of view. The main difference is that the sandboxes don't get the millions of mainstream players, but then sandboxes also don't need the investment of 50+ million euros or dollars. I maintain this List of Sandbox MMORPGs. Please post or send PM for corrections and suggestions. |
Well eve.
Then uo and swg back in the day. For the future, I reckon if a minecraft mmo ever got made that would be a huge success. |
Uo was made by origin, while they were owned by ea. The most successful indie mmos would be eve, daoc, Ao and maybe tsw if that's turning a profit now. I guess you could make an argument wow is the most successful indie mmo of all seen as they weren't with activision when they made it. But I reckon its a push to call blizzard indie. |
Originally posted by BitterClinger Success as in a high positive Profit/Loss ratio? Then I'll have to say Entropia Universe - it is basically a casino but it is in many ways a sandbox game. I think that pretty much what MMO comes down to if they want to make money - addiction. You'll have to make people addicted to the game. Sandbox tends to be more difficult to make people addicted, but people are always easily addicted to gambling and the possibility of making money. Look at EVE, the other financially successful mmo, you can make money off playing it, technically speaking, as well (though not to the extent of EU). |
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Originally posted by ShakyMo I could've sworn Origin: We Create Worlds was a small studio that was bought out by EA after they already pitched the idea of Ultima Online. It's a story I followed closely, albeit 15 years ago or so. Though I guess memory fades after that amount of time if I'm wrong. Still, it wasn't a blunder and to this day is celebrated as one of the great Sandbox games; only goes to show what could be done (back in the 90s no less!) no matter which part is true. My memory might have been solidified (falsified) by a lot of the fan hatred of what EA "did" to UO after they "bought" them what with the frequent expansion after expansion and the implementation of Trammel. Here's what I managed to find online, since it is an old story. "With the publication of Ultima Online they attracted the attention of EA games, who saw potential in the game, going on to buy Origin Systems. Electronic Arts disbanded the studio after cancelling some of the upcoming games being developed by Origin." http://www.giantbomb.com/origin-systems/65-344/ The Crystal's Call Gameplay Trailer: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/blog/post/383 Tour of Eorzea Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JQ87KtH1G8 Six hours of FFXIV 1.0 Cutscenes: http://www.twitch.tv/thaze_tv/b/338928300 |
Originally posted by Yaevindusk If you watch the video around the internet with the UO developers chatting they mention a lot of stuff they did at the start, that made it sandbox, gave them most of the headaches down the road. Hence you had the more tame version of UO that is out now. Unlimited items on the ground, never been copied and was a big headache for UO..but very sandbox. Housing was an issue in UO if you remember there were literally houses plastered everywhere in many cases more houses than trees. PK'ing was an issue they actually corrected, even though I thought it ruined some of the elements of what made uo great from a customer service standpoint I guess they thought otherwise. UO had to hotpatch an axe into the game so players could break the seige of trammel.....imagine today's audience...based on the MMORPG community...reaction to being stuck in one town for three days because of a PK siege with no way out....it would be incredible. |
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Originally posted by GrayKodiak I actually remember the credits on UO after booting it up on the first working day. "Twas the night before launch, and all through the game, not a damn thing was working, not even god mode" or some such. xD Also, edited my prior post with a link to the Origin discussion. I don't think anyone who played then would say it was a perfect game at launch, but it turned into a Jewel that was destroyed when the game was given land update after land update in expansion after expansion, splitting up the community. Britain used to be full of people trying to sell their wares, but it became a ghost town after a while. The economy was further attacked with the implementation of Magic Items and such, that pretty much made crafting less viable in a game where that's what it pretty much was all about (not the minor magic ones, but that really powerful ones a half decade or so after launch). The Crystal's Call Gameplay Trailer: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/blog/post/383 Tour of Eorzea Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JQ87KtH1G8 Six hours of FFXIV 1.0 Cutscenes: http://www.twitch.tv/thaze_tv/b/338928300 |


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changes inclued changing published to visible throughout (except for database entries which are not changed) adding library browser 2 correct and incorrect answers are now color coded depths table is now in database.conf schema removed some extraneous files sets are automatically assigned to author when created (without alert message) misc fixes
Corrected wording of warning message and initiated Insure $dateTime is defined (set it to 0 if it is not) to prevent spurious warning messages.
warn against calling formatDateTime function in utils as a method (which is found in ContentGenerator.pm)
changed the error message on reporting switch over problems that occur when you change versions of Storable. removed lines from WeBWorK.pm that attempted to solve the Inequalities::common problem they weren't really doing any good. The basic problem is that we need a line: use Inequalities::common before the @ISA() statement -- unfortunately we've barred the use of "use" in Safe. :-(
remove chevrons from merge
back ported support for geogebra applets
changes back ported from gage_dev changes to support applets changes in how answers are stored
merging changes from the dev branch
warning messages if timezone hasn't been defined correctly
defined not_blank() subroutine to check that string exists and is not blank.
Forward ports from rel-2-4-patches
Moved trim_spaces utility from AddUsers.pm to Utils.pm (data munger section) CourseAdmin page now calls trim_spaces to clean up data entered when creating a new course (spaces at beginning and end of entry are trimmed). This addresses bug #1442
updated copyright dates
Update sortByName() utility to allow sorting on multiple fields. This allows sorting on set_id and version_id, which is desirable for versioned sets.
move constituency_hash into Utils.pm
move before, after, and between subroutines here from Problem/GatewayQuiz
make importing actually work in runtime_use. previously, symbols were being imported into the bogus package "Main", and there was no way to specify an import list.
Make File::Copy available
Resolve bug #994 ("Try it" yields: sourceFilePath is unsafe!) SetMaker uses a relative path for sourceFilePath, which is nice, but which path_is_subdir didn't account for. Added thrid argument, $allow_relative, to that utility which causes $dir to be prepended to $path. Modified Problem.pm to trigger this behavior.
forward-port from rel-2-2-dev: (security checks for sourceFilePath -- fixes bug #970. * Utils.pm: add path_is_subdir * Problem.pm: use path_is_subdir to check sourceFilePath fix logic on when to use sourceFilePath * ProblemSet.pm: use path_is_subdir to check sourceFilePath add permissions check around sourceFilePath handler * ProblemSets.pm: use path_is_subdir to check sourceFilePath * GatewayQuiz.pm: remove code to preserve editMode/sourceFilePath (not used))
forward-port from rel-2-2-dev: (update copyright date range -- 2000-2006. this is probably overkill, since there are some files that were created after 2000 and some files that were last modified before 2006.)
eliminate undefined value usage in unformatDateTime, fixing bug #826. also factored out error reporting into unformatDateTime_error and improved formatting slightly.
Add clarification to error message for surePathToFile
Fixed some documentation comments.
disable newlines every 76 characters in base64-encoded answers. this is nice for examining database contents manually since it prevents newlines from being introduced into database records.
improved handling of symlinks in listFilesRecursiveHelper. symlinks to files are now treated as files instead of directories.
Preliminary commit of changes to add Gateway module. This adds to WeBWorK - the ability to create versioned, timed problem sets ("gateway tests") for which all problems are displayed on a single page ("versioned" means that students can get multiple versions of the problem set), - the ability to create sets that draw problems from groups of problems, and - the ability to create sets that require a proctor login to start and grade. Sets can be defined as gateway tests or proctored gateway tests from the ProblemSetDetail page. Not quite bug-free yet. Known bugs include handling of problem values on the Student Progress page (I think this may be a problem with changing from sql database format where all entries were 'text' to sql_single in ver 2.1, where they are integer), and a division by zero error on the grades page (which may be the same problem). Tests with a number of attempts per version greater than one haven't been carefully tested, nor has scoring of gateway tests.
Fixed a bug in which the constant 'function' BASE64_ENCODED was not being evaluated inside the matching and substitution statements. Replaced the constant by using the construction our $BASE64_ENCODED = 'base64_encoded:'; instead. The variable is properly interpolated inside the matching and substitution statements.
Additional changes to the writeLogs functions. Now surePathToFile is used to make sure that the logs are created if they are not already there.
Added documentation to writeTimingLogEntry
Use base64 to save answers -- this ensures that symbols in the answer won't cause trouble. I have added a string to the beginning of the encoded passage: base64_encoded:AFDWERADADFRET -- Mike
encoding answers in base64 -- this should keep import and export from breaking.
added fisher_yates_shuffle() inplace-randomization routine.
POD fixes
Changed error reporting when there is an error in date/time. This specifies what the subroutine thinks date and time are, making it easier to discover the error in the format of the input
Fixed mistake involving "at" in interpreting the date and time string in a .def file
Modifications to the format for error reporting.
complete rewrite of parseDateTime to close bug #693. - using modified version of WW1's unformatDateAndTime() function for actual parsing. - intelligent treatment of two, three, and four digit years consistent with Time::Local. - attempt to interpret time zone specification using DateTime::TimeZone and then Time::Zone. if neither succeeds, an expection is thrown. - if timezone is not specified, $display_tz is actually used. It never ceases to amaze me how tricky time zone handling is. It appears that I have it right now, but please test.
Added time zone to the format time and dates subroutine in Utils.pm
Matching full path was not working (the match was being made against only the file name regardless of the match flag).
re-added use Date::Format
moved "use" lines to top of file, clobbered lingering "warn". noticed by dpvc.
PRELIMINARY SUPPORT FOR TIME ZONES (towards closing bug #532). (1) new configuration variable $siteDefaults{timezone} Set the default timezone of courses on this server. This must be a value valid for the TZ environment variable. See also tzset(3). If left blank, the system timezone will be used. This is usually what you want. You might want to set this if your server is NOT in the same timezone as your school. If just a few courses are in a different timezone, set this in course.conf for the affected courses instead. (2) support for second optional $display_tz argument to formatDateTime() and parseDateTime(). If specified, formatted string datetimes will be considered to be in that timezone instead of the server's local timezone. Remaining work: find all calls to *DateTime() and add the $client_tz argument. $client_tz is is really something that *DateTime() should be able to grab out of $ce, but they're not a method on ContentGenerator, so we have to pass it in. It might be worth moving them to ContentGenerator. (Or some new subclass of ContentGenerator or something?)
added listFilesRecursive() subroutine, some housekeeping.
Added Bill's textDateTime/intDateTime routines. Closes bug #618.
Added force_eoln() function for converting line endings of a string to unix line endings (\n)
Moved "use File::Find" to Instructor.pm, where it is used.
Added use File::Find
Fix uninitialized value. (It comes into play if a problem doesn't have any answer blanks. We have these in our orientation set.)
Added surePathToFile utility called as surePathToFile start_directory path (the path can be the full path including the start_directory segment) If the start_directory is the tmp directory then one has the effect of surePathToTmpFile defined in IO.pl
runtime_use now gives an error message if it is passed an empty string or an undefined value
preliminary web-based course creation support try it -- create a course called "admin" the usual way and then visit it in your browser.
if $field is undefined in sortByname, the items are treated as strings instead of objects.
added dequote() function from cookbook
Normalized headers. All files now contain the text below as a header. This is important since all files now (a) use the full name of the package, (b) assign copyright to "The WeBWorK Project", (c) give the full path of the file (relative to CVSROOT) instead of simply the file name, and (d) include license and warranty information. Here is the new header: ################################################################################ # WeBWorK Online Homework Delivery System # Copyright © 2000-2003 The WeBWorK Projcct, http://openwebwork.sf.net/ # $CVSHeader$ # # This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it under # the terms of either: (a) the GNU General Public License as published by the # Free Software Foundation; either version 2, or (at your option) any later # version, or (b) the "Artistic License" which comes with this package. # # This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but WITHOUT # ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS # FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See either the GNU General Public License or the # Artistic License for more details. ################################################################################
removed overly chatty error message: instead, we should add this sort of thing to the generic "software error" message.
Modified parseDateTime so that it handles time strings of the form 01/03/03 at 06:00am. The " at " retains compatibility with webwork 1.9 which is important for import and export. This fixes a bug introduced when changing formatDateTime. #204 and #203 should be fixed by this. --Mike
Added " at " in formatDateTime function. This makes it compatible with webwork1.9 which is important when we export set definition files. this may ruin some earlier aesthetic considerations (Dennis?) but the compatibility is more important than that in this case. --Mike
Abstracted "read directory" functions in SendMail and moved them to Instructor. The instructor calls WeBWorK::Utils::readDirectory and then filters the output according to a pattern match. Sorts as well. Also move read_scoring_file to instructor since it will need to be used in other scripts as well. --Mike
Changes made to make show Past answers work. Basically I duplicated writeLog with writeCourseLog which writes to the courses log directory. I also defined answer_log in that directory.
Added the function "cryptPassword" which encrypts a plaintext password using a random salt.
disabled &backtrace, which depends on Apache::DB. DB has been causing segfaults with some modules (like File::Temp, XMLRPC::Lite...)
added removeTempDirectory() routine. instead of calling rmtree($dir, 0, 0) directly, you should use this :) -sam
added makeTempDirectory function. -sam
Added pretty_print_rh utility function for printing warnings lines from a hash. -- Mike
Added sortByName($field, @items) to WeBWorK::Utils. It uses the method named $field to sort the objects in @items. Modified ProblemSets to call it. -sam
fixed encodeAnswer to never allow the last character to be a backslash. closes bug #67. -sam
Took out the redundant "confirm email address" from user options. Also, added a Util function "backtrace", which can be passed one of "die", "warn", "print", or "return". I'm just showing off, but it might prove useful in debugging. -Dennis
improved the implementation of refBaseType. -sam
Fix max in Util.pm did some UI refactoring. -Dennis
added readDirectory -Dennis
Added two functions, list2hash and max. -Dennis
modev more content generators over to the new WWDBv2 API. fixed some bugs. -sam
merged changes from rel-2-0-pr1-hardcopy-changes -sam
DONE effectiveUser for at least Problem.pm DONE write a template escape for printing $user, $effectiveUser, &c. nicely also added additional timing log points: timing is now logged: 1. when WeBWorK::PG::new starts 2. after all the initialization-type stuff happens 3. when WeBWorK::PG::new ends Getting it to log the entire request time might be a little harder. -sam
added a bunch of "***" comments. implemented Feedback module. -sam
added REAL logout support. keys now get invalidated at logout. also, fixed a bug in classlist (see the diff). also, added a sub to Utils (see the diff). -sam
added some docs to Utils -sam
- created macros/IO.pl, which is loaded with no opmask by PG.pm. It is a copy of WeBWorK::PG::IO.pm, with some changes to make it work as a macro package. The translator no longer shares IO.pm's functions with the safe compartment. This is a BAD THING, and should be reconsidered when the Translator is revised. - Changed many (but not all) checks for HTML or HTML_tth modes to match /^HTML/ in the macros. - changed &header to &head in Problem.pm - Added problem environment variables for gif2eps and png2eps and modified &dangerousMacros::alias to use them - fixed MOST of the harmless warnings in the system. there's still the "Use of uninitialized value in null operation" warning in template(), tho. Still to come: - make images in PDFs work - fix TTH mode character encodings on mac (maybe) - have logout button invalidate key - Pretty die messages (from outside of the translator) - Feedback - need nice modular way of sending email - Options - email address and password
* fixed multiple-calls-to-&handler problem * fixed if-else-endif code in &template * added code to catch warnings in PG evaluation * added "pink screen" and warning reporting * started work on logging code (see Utils.pm, commented out) -sam & dennis
updated copyright header. -sam
"normalized" files: - (c) header on all files - standard order of preamble lines: 1. (c) header 2. package PACKAGENAME; 3. short summary of the package (pod's NAME section) 4. use - pragmatic modules 5. use - standard perl modules 6. use - CPAN modules 7. use - webwork modules - ALWAYS use strict and use warnings - use "use base" rather than "our @ISA" so now we can be happy. -sam
fixed "odd number of elements in hash" problem when decoding form fields. -sam
cleanup? -sam
sticky answers work. ha HA! -sam
moved &encode and &decode from WW.pm and Classlist.pm. Renamed to &dbEncode and &dbDecode. -sam
continued to work on Problem.pm. see diffs. -sam
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I'm interested in investing in power functions based trains, but want to automate switching points. Is this possible? What is the cheapest / easiest way of achieving this?
There is a pure way of changing the points at a track. It requires as few pieces as you like: a motor and two technic beam/bricks. This video demonstrates the principles of point changing with a NXT motor and will work with PF and RCX. You can use Mindstorms to program the events that trigger the points to change, it will cost you extra but there are benefits. |
One elegant solution is to use pneumatic elements, as a small pneumatic pump is enough to move the lever. If you're lazy to figure out how, you can buy a kit from a fan which will allow you to control 2 points (you'll need one more pump to generate the pressure). With the included instructions, you can build more controls if you have the parts, or simply buy more kits. (He also sells compatible pneumatic hose by the meter, and his custom waggons are nice as well). His design is very compact, probably much more than you'll be able to get with electrical power; plus, it saves energy. The only drawback in my opinion is the hoses which you'll need to run from your control station to each point, which are slightly larger that electrical cables. Another typical solution is to use a motor which controls the point. This will take more place, and you have to be careful that the motor doesn't run too far (use a clutch gear). One promising way is to use the new small linear actuator: which should behave more or less like the mini pneumatic pump; but of course any other Technical solution should be good. Use your imagination, or dive into BrickShelf in search of inspiration. Of course, you'll need to run electrical wires, or use infrared receivers, but then you'll be limited in the number of points you can control. Note that sometimes, the configuration of your layout means that pairs of switches can be controlled together (think of a bypass to change from one track to the other), so that you can spare some control channels, or wires. -- Non-LEGO solutions can be achieved with about anything, including solenoids (electrical actuators), which LEGO doesn't produce. One other elegant solution I can think of is to use bike brake cable, but I have no real idea if that would be easy to do. |


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...has EARNED more playing time and deserves to be out there earlier and more often. Can Norv not see this? Discuss. Side note: Offense seems to be far too pass happy. Do my eyes deceive me? Yes, I understand they had to throw it vs ATL because of the score.
I agree that Jackie Battle has earned more playing time, if it were up to me he would get most if not all of our goal line carries for the forseeable future. When you quickly fall behind by several scores, it may seem tempting to abandon the running game & simply air it out but to do that plays right into the hands of the opposition, it's what they are expecting you to do and they will usually be prepared for that tactic. It leads to more 3 & outs and turnovers, and can turn what may have been a close game to a blowout – it happened just that way for us last weekend against Tennessee. If you stay balanced & continue to possess the ball & acquire points, your chances of coming back to win in the end are much higher.
The running game period, deserves more playing time. I'm a broken record at this stage but after Ryan fumbled and Atl went down and scored, Norv went into panic mode and went pass pass pass.That's his MO, if in doubt, pass. We were still in this game, we were running the ball real well with Mathews. Keep at it. Instead look what happens, Atl realise it's pin your ears back time and the weakest point of our team ie. O line is exposed play after play. Mathews, Battle, Brinkley, McClain..... it doesn't matter to me RUN the freakin ball, get the D off balance.
He should be the primary compliment to Mathews with Brinkley operating as a third down back maybe. I still believe that Mathews should get the bulk of the carries but Battle has earned some playing time
How do you beat a prolific passing offense like the Falcons? Keep them on the sideline with a power running game. Football 101. Think we need to send Norv back to school.
Norv didn't go into panic mode after the Atlanta drive following the fumble. He called passes because there was 2:32 on the clock before the half. We weren't going to drive the ball 80 yards running it in 2:32.
Norv tried to keep up with the ATL with the pass when Norv should've been more focusing on tiring out ATLs D.
If I'm not mistaken we had 3 timeouts and the 2 minute warning. In my opinion plenty of time to mix it up. Having Rivers force it results in an INT and instead the Falcons with a short field score. If we were more methodical at that point worst case we would have gone into the half 13-3 down and we get the ball to start the 2nd half. Instead 20-3 meant game over.
And what if Mathews had put the ball on the ground again? Also, where do you get that our WCS is going into the half 13-3? From whence came these magical three points? The worst case scenario is still being down 20-0 at the half, it just becomes less likely if we run the ball three times and then end up punting, although a turnover is still always possible. Having three timeouts and the 2 minute doesn't guarantee that we'd have enough time to drive the ball 80 yds.
The Atlanta game is long gone, nothing can be done about it today. Since it seems to be the consensus in here that the O-line sucks, I think a great heaping dose of Rygina, Battle and McClain early on might soften up a defense. I think it was Conc who might have mentioned going elephant on the opposition with a three tight end set, sounds crazy but would work in the long run.
I am still mad about the Ed Hochuli blown call. Once I get over that I might be able to move on to this game and than after that I plan on getting angry over the Seattle/Packer game. But that wont be for a while.
Dude has 17 carries for 124 yards, 7.3 avg, 2 td's with a long rush of 52. Tell me again why we wait till the 4th to use him?
Dude has 17 carries for 124 yards, 7.3 avg, 2 td's with a long rush of 52, because we waited till the 4th to use him.
While I might agree with you about the Titans game, where we held the ball for 3/4 of the game, in no way were the Falcons Defense worn down in the 4th when Battle broke his huge run.
I didn't say they were tired. They were bored. Zero chance the Chargers score 24 points in 4 minutes. The only threat in their lives at that point is if they're embarrrased by a 60 yard TD bomb over their heads while in uber-prevent defense. Play the run? Seriously? (5 Falcons 7 yards or further from line of scrimmage on Battle's big run) p.s. I really like Battle, and I think he's awesome insurance. But his track record over 5 seasons shows him to be a 3.76 ypc guy. That's a comfort, re. backing up your feature back, but you don't go making wild changes based on a crazy 52 yard ramble when the defense is barely still awake in garbage time.
That's the point... forcing the pass in my opinion meant Rivers gets no time to pass with the O line the way it is. Mixing in the run with the pass at least gets the Atlanta D off balance. My bad on the 3 pts. I shoulda said worst case scenario 13 zip. Yes Mathews could have fumbled again, just like Rivers throws picks now and again. And 3 TOs and the 2 min warning guarantees nothing. My point is... effectively telling the Atlanta coaches and players we're gonna pass every down allows them to dial up all sorts of blitzes etc. Our O line is not equipped to deal with this period.
We needed to get some chunk yardage. A screen pass might've been in order to attempt to slow the rush, but the team needed to pass. Running the ball at that point would have been the tactical equivalent of taking knees. If you want to contend that the Chargers should have anticipated pressure and attempted a screen, I won't argue against that. If you wish to suggest that we were likely to get points from a drive based on running the ball, I think your opinion lacks perspective.
Not saying wild changes. What i'm saying is give him some carries early. Dude has not touched the ball before the 4th quarter. Mix him in earlier. Doesnt seem wild to me. Mathews was running like a truck before the fumble last week. A strong helping of Mathews with a smattering of Battle is what i'm calling for.
Well, if it's a smattering you're clamoring for, well, I can't oppose that. I'm just saying that Battle is a good guy and a known entity...that 52-yarder was crazy atypical and not anything to take too seriously, given the (no run defense) circumstances. Overall, Mathews is simply a better runner, and you just don't take the ball out of the hands of your best playmakers too often...
Yeah I think fearing the fumble too much would be a mistake by Norv, Mathews looked as he was being advertised in pre-season before the fumble. It makes you wonder why he hasn't adopted the LT/Tiki ball on the chest plate running style yet. I'm gonna be dissapointed if Battle gets too many carries this week, he's been good, but he's an ISO back, he doesn't give us any ability to turn the corner. Teams like the Steelers, Ravens, Texans, and even the Raiders with big heavy front 7s will shut us down if we come at them like that.
I hear yah, not clamoring, but when you play a prolific passing offense like the Falcons, a power run game will keep their O on the sideline and eat up playclock. Obviously you have to be able to pull off a power run game but i think with an 80/15/5 Mathews to Battle to McLain split on carries, utilizing McMichael and Rosario in the run game as blockers, and mixing in play action we could have kept Matty on the sidelines more, given our D a breather, and slowed down the blitzing on Philip.
And I rest my case after the KC game. A solid mix of the 2 is much better than either one by themselves. And I think Sunday showed that Battle can expand his game. Loved his post game comment where he said he didn't think he had caught 4 passes in his whole career let alone in 1 game and getting a TD, but that he was ready, willing, and able to do anything they asked of him.
It was an okay game by Battle thanks to the 2 short TDs, but he didn't do anything Mathews couldn't, and rather less at times. I just hope Norv isn't arrogant enough, or stupid enough to think he can keep giving Battle the bulk of the carries without our production taking a hit....not that our offensive production has been impressive anyway. Our defense and Cassel's stupidity won the game this week.
I prefer Battle over Mathews. Battle is stronger a lot like Eddie George where he can pound the ball and tire out the defense. Second half Mathews should see the field as a 'closer' does in baseball. With his fumbling issues, Mathews is still to much of a risk to use him right away. We can't afford to let any team a free turnover.
Could not disagree more, our offense was completely stagnent with Battle in the game from the start of the 2nd to the start 4th quarter. We had some 4 strait 3 and outs plus a short FG off a defensive takeaway, Battle was unproductive. When Mathews came in he was immediately our entire offense, he converted 5 first downs in the 4th quarter (against 8 man fronts) and put Battle in position to catch that screen pass from Rivers on the TD. Mathews needs 20 carries per game, and I'll start bashing him for fumbles when Rivers stops throwing stupid interceptions.


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Zeien Lecture: Dr. James H. Simons
Webb Institute welcomed Dr. and Mrs. James H. Simons to campus on April 27th for the occasion of Dr. Simons' lecture for the Alfred M. Zeien Lecture Series. Dr. Simons, a very successful mathematician, money manager, philanthropist, and "Renaissance man," presented a lecture entitled "Mathematics, Common Sense, and Good Luck."
Dr. Simons received a B.S. in mathematics from MIT in 1958 and a Ph.D. in mathematics from Berkeley in 1961 at the age 23. For five years, he worked as a code breaker for the Institute for Defense Analysis. He taught for a number of years at MIT and Princeton University and then in 1968 became chairman of the Mathematics Department at SUNY-Stony Brook. Meanwhile, he started a business with some friends at which they used their knowledge of math to create new business and investment models. The models worked exceptionally well in the business world.
What valuable life lessons might be learned from Dr. Simons' experiences? First, try something different. Secondly, find great business partners. Third, remember that a business organization can be a beautiful system if you have bright people who are motivated and work well together. Finally, never underestimate the importance of luck.


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Delta Force—the US Army's most elite top-secret strike force. They dominate the modern battlefield, but you won't hear about their heroics on CNN. No headlines can reveal their top-secret missions, and no book has ever taken readers inside—until now. Here, a founding member of Delta Force takes us behind the veil of secrecy and into the action to reveal the never-before-told story of First Special Forces Operational Detachment-D (Delta Force).
He is a master of espionage, trained to take on hijackers, terrorists, and enemy armies. He can deploy by parachute or arrive by commercial aircraft, survive alone in hostile cities, speak foreign languages fluently, strike at enemy targets with stunning swiftness and extraordinary teamwork. He is the ultimate modern warrior: the Delta Force operator.
In this dramatic chronicle, Eric Haney, one of the founding members of Delta Force, takes us inside this legendary counterterrorist unit. Here, for the first time, are details of the grueling selection process—designed to break the strongest of men—that singles out the best of the best.
With heart-stopping immediacy, Haney tells what it's really like to enter a hostage-held airplane. From his days in Beirut, he tells a remarkable tale of bodyguards and bombs, of a day-to-day life of madness and beauty, and of how he and a teammate are called on to kill two gunmen targeting US Marines at an airport. As part of the team sent to rescue American hostages in Tehran, Haney offers a first-person description of that failed mission that is a chilling, compelling account of a bold maneuver undone by chance—and a few fatal mistakes.
From fighting guerrilla warfare in Honduras to rescuing missionaries in Sudan and leading the way onto the island of Grenada, Haney captures the daring and discipline that distinguish the men of Delta Force. Inside Delta Force brings honor to these singular men while it puts us in the middle of around-the-world action that is sudden, frightening, and nonstop.
©2002 Eric L. Haney; Afterword 2005 by Eric L. Haney (P)2011 Blackstone Audio, Inc.
"The story of the US military's elite counterterrorism warriors… Timely… fascinating… well-written." (Atlanta Journal-Constitution)
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"Informative & Entertaining Memoir >|< Myth"
Haney's memoir of Delta Force is one of those influential military memoirs that sets the bar for future warrior authors. You can see its influence on the recent 'No Easy Day' (the memoir by one of the Navy Seals who hunted and killed OBL) and countless other minor trooper tales. That isn't to say this is a perfect memoir, nor a perfect history of Delta Force.
The very nature of Delta opererators, and the unit they served in, practically requires that memoirs of Delta Force (and the SF or Navy Seals) will always be viewed as partial truths, shaded stories, rumor, and myth. But like David Hackworth's 'About Face' before, this memoir is informative and entertaining. It is a single data point but shouldn't be taken as the gospel of anything, just a single (slightly biased) retelling of one man's memory of how things in a very elite military unit functioned.
"Both a How To book and a bit of history"
The book begins by describing Delta selection and then the process through which Delta force established its procedures and culture and how they're prepared evolve through changing times. The second half of the book describes the author's participation in several actions. I really enjoy the first part of the book because the focus on developing methods and procedures really demonstrates good management methods. The narrator for the book is excellent as well. I highly recommend the book.
"Good, Detail Filled History of the "Operator""
This book was very good, but might not be enjoyed by those without enough base knowledge to understand the detailed level of explanation of tactics and terminology used in the book. The narrator was good, and I had no complaints about him at all. If you want a detailed history of the first unit of dedicated spec-ops "Operators", then this is definitely for you.
I spend about 55 hours a week driving and really enjoy having a good book to pass the miles.
"Intense and entertaining."
I've always wanted the inside story of the botched Iran hostage rescue and now I've got it. This is a very fast paced and intense look at what it takes to become a Delta Force operator. I highly recommend this book.
"Fantastic progression from training to covert ops"
Command Master Sargent Eric L Haney describes his path from Airborne Ranger, SOFD-D selection (founding class), through some of our most well known and many unknown operations in AWESOME detail. Must have for military enthusiasts.
"Very interesting book"
Good reader and good story. I loved the tv show "The Unit" and when I found out it was based on this book I had to give it a listen. Some really good stories about a group of people we rarely get to hear about.
"Great Book on the Early Days of Delta"
This was a great book on the beginning days of Delta. I listened to Kill Bin Laden: A Delta Force Commander's Account of the Hunt for the World's Most Wanted Man, by Dalton Fury (pseudonym) the Delta Commander on the ground at Tora Bora in the beginning of the war on the Taliban and the hunt for the man responsible for the 9/11 attacks. It was interesting to see how Delta has evolved as a SF unit from the beginning days of Haney, through many missions and many sacrifices, and one of Deltas more recent missions. I think Haney's story was very informative and exciting. As well as hearing of the Ultimate Sacrifices of Deltas several members. I know these books don't touch the tip of the iceberg of what Delta is actually capable of, but what is told amazes me every time I think about it. The narrator was excellent and should narrate all audios of this type in my opinion. It's a great book and I would recommend listening to it, as well as Fury's book to see how Delta has evolved into one of the US's top SF groups. All branches of the US military have top notch SF units and even though we were behind in the formation of ours, (British SAS). I think we have the best.
"The best military read since Rogue Warrior"
I could not put this read, or listen if you will, down. Absolutely one of the best
military reads since Commander Marcenko's Rogue Warrior. Command Master Sargent Haney covers everything from entering a room of bad guys with hostages to the bombing of the U.S. Embassy in Beruit. By the way, a fact that was not covered almost anywhere, is that all the CIA station chiefs in the Middle East where in a staff meeting in the conference room above the enterance to the Embassy at the time of the bombing!
"Right on target"
I listened to the book and found it extremely accurate and a pleasure. Haney tells the story of his service; trials, tribulations and achievements in a no-nonsense and enjoyable way. Though I never arose to the status of a Delta Operator, I did have the honor and privilege to serve with two of the Army's special operations forces and can attest to the validity of this writing. Thanks for all you sacrificed CSM Haney! RTLW!
I'm a bear that likes honey, climbing trees, stealing picnic baskets and listening to audiobooks.
"Good stuff, but wanted a little more gritty detail"
Learning about all the different training techniques that the Delta Force operatives used. It was good to know that we have soldiers taking a proactive approach to combating terrorism at home and abroad.
The descriptions of the training sessions for Delta Force operatives, especially the live fire shooting drills.
Bit too folksy
It wasn't the most compelling listen, but a solid and enlightening book about the formation of Delta Force.
I thought the book was good overall, however I found myself looking for some more gritty details about life in Delta Force. One highlight of the book is the author's postscript at the end. I think he does an excellent job of summing up the root causes of terrorism and makes a compelling argument about where our military focus should be.