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Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 6:43 am
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2. Mackay, Lady of the Pale Curtains.
4. Talitha, Enchantress of the Moonlit Night.
5. Iammars, Knight of Courage without Equal.
8. Poker, Elder Priest of the Scarlet Synod.
11. Amb, Eye of Boundless Insanity.
12. Alphatango, Last Whisper of the Unseen Kingdom.
13. TCM, Highest Star of the Southern Horizon.
14. Kaoru Dono, Flower Mistress of the Peach Garden Bloom
18. Wyndhane, Felicitous Feline of Frozen Flames.
Summary of Deaths so far:
MGM, killed N1, Joe McCarthy Cop
Mastermind of Sin, killed N2, Boris Pasternak, Doctor
Wacky, killed N2, Marilyn Monroe, Mason
Fritzler, killed N2, James Dean, Townie
Sniklac16-, lynched D2, George Santayana, Doctor
DragonPhoenix, killed N3, Krushev, Mafia Goon
Seol, killed N3, Einstein, Cop
Inhimshallibe, Lynched D3, Malenkov, Mafia Goon
Shteven, killed N4, Julius Rosenberg, Mafia Traitor
Darquiel, lynched D4, Queen Elizabeth II, townie
Peacebringer, killed N5, Joseph Stalin, Mafia Godfather
Dead Dead(8/21)
MGM(Killed N1)(Multiple Bullet and Knife Wounds)
Joe McCarthy: Cop
1908-57, U.S. senator from Wisconsin (1947-57), b. near Appleton, Wis. He practiced law in Wisconsin and became (1940) a circuit judge. He served with the U.S. marines in the Pacific in World War II, achieving the rank of captain. In 1946, McCarthy defeated Senator Robert M. La Follette, Jr., for the Republican senatorial nomination and then overwhelmed his Democratic opponent in the election. His career in the Senate was undistinguished and obscure until Feb., 1950, when he won national attention with a speech at Wheeling, W.Va., in which he charged that the State Dept. had been infiltrated by Communists. Although a Senate investigating committee under Millard Tydings exonerated the State Dept. and branded the charges a fraud and a hoax, McCarthy repeated his claims in a series of radio and television appearances. Challenged to produce his evidence, he refused and instead made new accusations. When the Republicans assumed control of Congress in 1953, McCarthy, who had been reelected in 1952, became chairman of the Senate permanent investigations subcommittee (Government Operations Committee), a post in which he wielded great power; he used his position to exploit the public's fear of Communism. Through widely publicized hearings, the use of unidentified informers, and reckless accusation, McCarthy doggedly pursued those whom he classified as Communists and subversives. Careers were ruined on the flimsiest evidence, and his methods came under increasing attack by the press and his colleagues. In Apr., 1954, McCarthy accused Secretary of the Army Robert T. Stevens and his aides of attempting to conceal evidence of espionage activities that McCarthy and his staff had allegedly uncovered at Fort Monmouth, N.J. The army, in turn, accused McCarthy, his chief counsel, and a staff member of seeking by improper means to obtain preferential treatment for a former consultant to the subcommittee, then a private in the army. After widely publicized hearings McCarthy and his aides were cleared (Aug., 1954) of the army's charges. However, in December the Senate, acting on a motion of censure against him, voted to condemn McCarthy for contempt of a Senate elections subcommittee that had investigated his conduct and financial affairs in 1952, for abuse of certain senators, and for insults to the Senate itself during the censure proceedings. After this rebuke, and with the Democrats again in control of Congress after the 1954 elections, McCarthy's influence in the Senate and on the national scene steadily diminished until his death. McCarthy's indiscriminate attacks gave rise to the term McCarthyism, which denotes similar assaults characterized by sensationalist tactics and unsubstantiated accusations.
You may investigate a player for ties to communism at night. You win with the town.
MOS(killed N2)(Multiple Bullet Wounds)
Boris Pasternak: Doctor
Pasternak at first embraced the promise of the Revolution of 1917, but he came to abhor the ensuing Bolshevik restrictions on artistic freedom. He wrote two long narrative poems, Spektorsky (1926) and The Year 1905 (1927). His collection of five short stories includes The Childhood of Lovers (1924), a complex and perceptive portrayal of a young girl. The brief autobiographical work Safe Conduct (1931) and the collection of poetry Second Birth (1932) were his last original works for many years. During the purges of the 1930s, Pasternak came under severe critical attack and, unable to publish his own poetry, devoted himself to making superb translations of classic works by Goethe, Shakespeare, and others. His survival of the purges is attributed to his translations of Georgian poets admired by Stalin. In his silence Pasternak became the hero of Russian intellectuals. His very rare public appearances were greeted with wild rejoicing.
During World War II he published two new collections, On Early Trains (1942) and The Terrestrial Expanse (1945), simpler in style, which brought him fresh censure. After Stalin's death Pasternak began work on the novel Doctor Zhivago (Eng. tr. 1958; Rus. text pub. in the United States, 1959), his masterpiece in the great tradition of the Russian epic. The life of the physician and poet Yuri Zhivago, like Pasternak's own, is closely identified with the exalted and tragic upheavals of 20th-century Russia. Expressing the celebration of life characteristic of its author, the novel offended Soviet authorities by its insights into Communist society and its strain of Christian idealism.
Denied publication in the USSR, it was first published in Italy in 1957 despite serious efforts to repress it. The novel soon became the object of unrestrained international acclaim. Pasternak was awarded the 1958 Nobel Prize in Literature, which he joyfully accepted. However, government pressure, including the threat of continued persecution of his intimate friend and collaborator, Olga Ivinskaya, led him to retract his acceptance, and he pleaded to be allowed to remain in his beloved motherland. Expelled from the Soviet Writers Union, Pasternak lived in virtual exile in an artists' community near Moscow.
You are a doctor, you may protect one player other than yourself at night from a nightkill, multiple kills will still kill them. You win with the town.
Wacky(killed N2)(Multiple Bullet Wounds)
Marilyn Monroe: Mason
Marilyn Monroe (born Norma Jeane Mortenson) June 1, 1926 August 5, 1962, was an American actress of the 20th century. Her sizzling screen presence, stunning good looks and mysterious death at the age of 36 would make her a perennial sex symbol, and later a pop icon.
You and your husband Joe[playername withheld] are masons! You win with the town.
Fritzler(killed N2)(Multiple Knife Wounds)
James Dean: Townie
(James Byron Dean), 1931-55, American film actor, b. Marion, Ind. After a few stage and television roles, Dean was chosen to play the moody, rebellious son in the film East of Eden (1953). He was further identified with restless, inarticulate youth in his second film Rebel without a Cause (1954). Dean was killed when his racing car crashed the day after he finished work on Giant (1955). His death set off a worldwide wave of cultist mourning unequaled since the death of Rudolph Valentino.
You are a townie, that means you win with the town. Have fun and use your vote wisely!
Sniklac16-:(Lynched Day2)
George Santayana: Doctor
George Santayana (16 December 186326 September 1952), was a Spanish philosopher, essayist, poet and novelist, best known for the oft-quoted statement, "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it," from Reason in Common Sense, the first volume of The Life of Reason.
Santayana wrote some 18 volumes of philosophy, as well as poetry, a novel (The Last Puritan, which was a best seller in 1936), and an autobiography. His students went on to fame and glory as well. The most prominent of his students were T.S. Eliot, Wallace Stevens, Walter Lippmann and Harry Austryn Wolfson.
You may choose to warn someone(not yourself) of the dangers of bullet wounds, knife cuts and other fearsome methods of killing as shown by previous history, allowing them to survive any attacks on that night.
DragonPhoenix(Dead of multiple stab wounds on N3)
Nikita Khrushchev(Mafia goon):
Nikita Sergeyevich Khrushchyov (Khrushchev) (Russian: Ники́та Серге́евич Хрущёв /nʲiˈki.ta sʲerˈge.jeˌviʧ ˈxru.ʃʧʲof/ listen?, April 17, 1894 September 11, 1971) was the leader of the Soviet Union after the death of Joseph Stalin. He was First Secretary of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union from 1953 to 1964 and Chairman of the Council of Ministers from 1958 to 1964.
Seol(Dead of multiple bullet wounds on N3)
Einstein: Cop
Einstein lived as a boy in Munich and Milan, continued his studies at the cantonal school at Aarau, Switzerland, and was graduated (1900) from the Federal Institute of Technology, Zürich. Later he became a Swiss citizen. He was examiner (1902-9) at the patent office, Bern. During this period he obtained his doctorate (1905) at the Univ. of Zürich, evolved the special theory of relativity , explained the photoelectric effect , and studied the motion of atoms, on which he based his explanation of Brownian movement . In 1909 his work had already attracted attention among scientists, and he was offered an adjunct professorship at the Univ. of Zürich. He resigned that position in 1910 to become full professor at the German Univ., Prague, and in 1912 he accepted the chair of theoretical physics at the Federal Institute of Technology, Zürich.
By 1913 Einstein had won international fame and was invited by the Prussian Academy of Sciences to come to Berlin as titular professor of physics and as director of theoretical physics at the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute. He assumed these posts in 1914 and subsequently resumed his German citizenship. For his work in theoretical physics, notably on the photoelectric effect, he received the 1921 Nobel Prize in Physics. His property was confiscated (1934) by the Nazi government because he was Jewish, and he was deprived of his German citizenship. He had previously accepted (1933) a post at the Institute for Advanced Study, Princeton, which he held until his death in 1955. An ardent pacifist, Einstein was long active in the cause of world peace; however, in 1939, at the request of a group of scientists, he wrote to President Franklin Delano Roosevelt to stress the urgency of investigating the possible use of atomic energy in bombs. In 1940 he became an American citizen.
You may choose at night to investigate a player for their alignment, you win with the town.
Inhimshallibe(Lynched D3)
Georgi Malenkov(Mafia Goon):
Georgy Maximilianovich Malenkov (Гео́ргий Максимилиа́нович Маленко́в) (GHYOR-ghee mah-leen-KOF) (January 8, 1902 [December 26, 1901, Old Style] - January 14, 1988) was a Soviet politician and Communist Party leader, and a close collaborator of Joseph Stalin. He briefly became leader of the Soviet Union (MarchSeptember 1953) after Stalin's death and was Premier of the Soviet Union from 1953 to 1955.
Malenkov was born in Orenburg, Russia, in an army officer's family of Macedonian origin. He joined the Red Army in 1919 and the Communist Party in April 1920. During his military service, he was a political commissar. After leaving the Red Army in 1921, he studied in Moscow Higher Technical School. After graduating in 1925, he worked for the Communist Party and became one of Stalin's confidants. Together with Lavrenty Beria, Malenkov aided Stalin during the purges of the late 1930s. He became a rival of Beria.
Named as candidate for the Politburo, Malenkov joined in 1946. Although Malenkov fell out of favor in place of his rivals Andrei Zhdanov and Beria, he soon came back into Stalin's favor, especially because of Zhdanov's downfall. Beria soon joined Malenkov, and both of them saw all of Zhdanov's allies purged from the Party and sent to labour camps. In 1952, Malenkov became a member of the party Secretariat. The death of Stalin in 1953 briefly brought Malenkov to the highest office he would ever hold. With Beria's support, Malenkov became Chairman of the Council of Ministers (or Premier) as well as First Secretary of the party, but he had to resign from the Secretariat on March 13th due to the opposition of other members of the Presidium. Nikita Khrushchev assumed the position of First Secretary in September ushering in a period of a Malenkov-Khrushchev duumvirate.
Malenkov retained the office of premier for two years, during which he was the de facto leader of the Soviet Union. During these years, he was vocal about his opposition to nuclear armament, declaring "a nuclear war could lead to global destruction." He also advocated refocussing the economy on the production of consumer goods and away from heavy industry, something his succesor Nikita Khrushchev (1955-1964) would escalate.
He was forced to resign in February 1955 after he came under attack for his closeness to Beria (who was executed as a traitor in December 1953) and for the slow pace of reforms, particularly when it came to rehabilitating political prisoners. Malenkov remained in the Politburo's successor, the Presidium. However, in 1957 he was again forced to resign due to participation in a failed attempt together with Nikolai Bulganin, Vyacheslav Molotov, and Lazar Kaganovich (the so-called Anti-Party Group) to depose Khrushchev. Unlike Stalin, Khrushchev spared their lives and reduced their influence on Soviet politics. In 1961, he was expelled from the Communist Party and exiled within the Soviet Union. He became a manager of a hydroelectric plant in Kazakhstan until his death.
Julius Rosenberg: Mafia Traitor.(multiple stab wounds)
Julius Rosenberg was born in New York on 12th May, 1918. He attended the Hebrew High School and the City College of New York, where he graduated in 1939 with a degree in electrical engineering. Later that year he married Ethel Greenglass, a clerical worker and an active trade unionist.
During the Second World War Rosenberg was employed as a civilian inspector for the Army Signal Corps, but was dismissed in 1945 as a result of allegations that he was a member of the Communist Party. Rosenberg now opened a small machine shop in Manhattan with his brother-in-law, David Greenglass. However, the business did badly and Greenglass left the partnership.
In 1950 Klaus Fuchs, head of the physics department of the British nuclear research centre at Harwell, was arrested and charged with espionage. Fuchs confessed that he had been passing information to the Soviet Union since working on the Manhattan Project during the Second World War.
The FBI were desperate to discover the names of the spies who had worked with Klaus Fuchs while he had been in America. Elizabeth Bentley, a former member of the American Communist Party, had in 1945 given FBI agents eighty names of people she believed were involved in espionage. At the time it had been impossible to acquire enough information to bring the suspects to court. These people were interviewed again and one of them, Harry Gold, confessed that he had acted as Fuchs's courier. He also named David Greenglass as being a member of the spy ring.
Greenglass was now interviewed and after confessing, claimed that Julius and Ethel Rosenberg were also members of the spy ring. In July 1950 Julius and his wife were arrested by the FBI and accused of spying for the Soviet Union. The couple were charged with conspiracy to commit espionage.
Virtually the only evidence against them was supplied by David Greenglass. He claimed that Julius had given atom bomb secrets that he in turn passed to Harry Gold, a convicted Soviet spy. The defense attorney, Emmanuel Bloch, argued that Greenglass was lying in order to gain revenge because he blamed Rosenberg for their failed business venture.
The jury believed the evidence of Greenglass and both Julius and his wife, Ethel Rosenberg, were found guilty and sentenced to death. A large number of people were shocked by the severity of the sentence as they had not been found guilty of treason. In fact, they had been tried under the terms of the Espionage Act that had been passed in 1917 to deal with the American anti-war movement.
Afterwards it became clear that the government did not believe the Rosenbergs would be executed. J. Edgar Hoover, head of the FBI, had warned that history would not be kind to a government responsible for orphaning the couple's two young sons on such poor evidence. Rumours began to circulate that the government would be willing to spare the couple's life if they confessed and gave evidence about other Communist Party spies.
The case created a great deal of controversy in Europe where it was argued that the Rosenbergs were victims of anti-semitism and McCarthyism. Nobel prize-winner, Jean-Paul Sartre, called the case "a legal lynching which smears with blood a whole nation".
Julius Rosenberg and Ethel Rosenberg remained on death row for twenty-six months. They both refused to confess and provide evidence against others and they were eventually executed on 19th June, 1953. As one political commentator pointed out, they died because they refused to confess and name others.
You are a Mafia Traitor along with Ethel Rosenberg[player](She is also a traitor), there is a Communist Group led by Joseph Stalin in this game that is trying to contact you, they know of your existence and can attempt to contact you in lieu of a nightkill, if contact is successfully established, you and Ethel will join the Mafia. Until then you do not have any nightkill capability and do NOT win with the town.
Queen Elizabeth II: Townie(lynched Day4)
Queen Elizabeth II (Elizabeth Alexandra Mary Windsor, born 21 April 1926), styled Her Majesty The Queen, is the Queen regnant of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Jamaica, Barbados, the Bahamas, Grenada, Papua New Guinea, the Solomon Islands, Tuvalu, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Antigua and Barbuda, Belize, and Saint Kitts and Nevis. About 125 million people live in the countries of which she is Head of State. She is thirty-eighth in line of descent from Egbert, King of Wessex.
She also holds the positions of Head of the Commonwealth, Supreme Governor of the Church of England and Lord of Mann since the death of her father, King George VI on 6 February 1952. She is the second-longest-serving current head of state in the world, after King Bhumibol Adulyadej the Great of Thailand. Her reign of over five decades has seen ten different Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom and numerous Prime Ministers in the other personal union nations of which she is or was Head of State.
You are a townie, that means you win with the town. Have fun and use your vote wisely!
Joseph Stalin(Godfather multiple knife wounds)
Joseph Stalin? (Russian, in full: Иосиф Виссарионович Сталин (Josef Vissarionovich Stalin), real name: Иосиф Виссарионович Джугашвили (Josef Vissarionovich Dzhugashvilli), Georgian: იოსებ ჯუღაშვილი (Iosif Dzhugashvilli); December 6 (OS)/December 18 (NS), 1878 [1] March 5, 1953) was the leader of the Soviet Union from mid-1920s to his death in 1953 and General Secretary of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union (1922-1953), a position which had later become that of party leader.
Stalin became general secretary of the Soviet Communist Party in 1922 and following the death of Vladimir Lenin, he prevailed over Leon Trotsky in a power struggle during the 1920s. In the 1930s Stalin eliminated effective political opposition both within the Party and among the population (see Gulag) and consolidated his authority with the Great Purge, a period of widespread arrests and executions which reached its peak in 1937, remaining in power through World War II and until his death. Stalin molded the features that characterized the new Soviet regime; his policies, based on MarxistLeninist ideology, are often considered to represent a political and economic system called Stalinism.
Under Stalin, who replaced the New Economic Policy (NEP) of the 1920s with five year plans (introduced in 1928) and collective farming, the Soviet Union was transformed from a largely peasant society to a major world industrial power by the end of the 1930s. However, collectivization was violently resisted by many peasants, resulting in millions of casualties amid famine and mass repression against peasants deemed "kulaks" by the authorities.
A hard-won victory in World War II (the Great Patriotic War, 194145), made possible in part through the capacity for production that was the outcome of industrialization, laid the groundwork for the formation of the Warsaw Pact and established the USSR as one of the two major world powers, a position it maintained for nearly four decades following Stalin's death in 1953.
Stalin's cult of personality, his concentration of power and the means of its execution has led to a common characterization of him as a dictator and to an opinion that he was personally responsible, directly or indirectly, via his policies, for millions or tens of millions of deaths and unjust imprisonments in the Soviet Union.
Nikita Khrushchev, Stalin's actual successor, denounced his mass repressions and cult of personality in 1956, initiating the process of "de-Stalinization". [2]
Jedo the Jedi(lynched day5)
Princess Grace: Townie
Grace Patricia Kelly (November 12, 1929 September 14, 1982) was an Oscar-winning American film actress who, as a result of marriage to Prince Rainier III of Monaco, became Her Serene Highness, Princess Grace of Monaco. She was the mother of the principality's current reigning Sovereign Prince, Albert II of Monaco. Grace Kelly was required to renounce her American citizenship upon her marriage.
She was born in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, to John Brendan Kelly Sr. (October 4, 1889 June 20, 1960) and Margaret Majer, a Catholic convert from Lutheranism; her Irish Catholic family (originally from Kidney Lake, Co. Mayo, Ireland) were new but prominent figures in Philadelphia society. Her father was a self-made millionaire and a gold-medal-winning Olympic sculler, and her brother "Jack" followed in that tradition. Kelly Drive in Philadelphia is named for John, Jr., who was a city councilman there. Her father's family was large and she had two prominent uncles in the arts; one, Walter Kelly, was a vaudevillian, and the other was the acclaimed playwright, George Kelly.
Though her family had opposed her becoming an actress, Kelly became a fashion model and appeared in her first film, Fourteen Hours (1951), when she was 22. The following year she "starred" with a minor role in High Noon (1952), a generally praised but somewhat controversial western starring Gary Cooper.
Her next film, Mogambo (1953), was a drama set in the Kenyan jungle which centers on the love triangle portrayed by Kelly, Clark Gable, and Ava Gardner. It earned Kelly an Oscar nomination for Best Supporting Actress, but the award went to Donna Reed for her role in From Here to Eternity. Kelly made three films with Alfred Hitchcock: Dial M for Murder, Rear Window, and To Catch a Thief.
In 1955, she was awarded the Academy Award for Best Actress for The Country Girl. While it was being filmed, she engaged in a brief affair (one of many in Hollywood) with co-star Bing Crosby, a fellow Irish Catholic, which was kept quiet to protect both their reputations.
The musical comedy High Society (1956) was her last film, as her marriage to Prince Rainier III of Monaco marked her retirement from acting. Before her marriage, she was previously allegedly involved with Clark Gable, Bing Crosby, Ray Milland, William Holden, Oleg Cassini,and Jean-Pierre Aumont. She reportedly was surprised to learn from Rainier that she was expected to give up her film career entirely, but followed his wishes grudgingly.
Her Catholicism and ability to bear children were key factors in her being chosen to marry Prince Rainier. Tales were circulated that Monaco would revert to France in the absence of an heir; and though there is no requirement for a Catholic marriage, it was thought unlikely that a Catholic prince would divorce and remarry if his chosen wife were barren. In fact, there was really little actual danger that Monaco would revert to France since, in 1882, a childless prince of Monaco adopted an unrelated heir, thereby ensuring Monaco's survival as a principality. Prince Rainier's maternal grandfather, Prince Louis II of Monaco also legitimized his illegitimate daughter Charlotte Louvet, who would become Rainier's mother and made her his heir Princess Charlotte of Monaco.
Before Grace Kelly drew Rainier's attention, French film star Gisèle Pascal (neé Giselle Marie Madeleine Tallone) had been his love interest for six years. Gisèle and Rainier supposedly parted when a physical examination reportedly found her to be infertile, but Giséle later married Raymond Pellegrin on October 8, 1955, and bore at least one child.
Princess Grace of Monaco's gravesite in St. Nicholas Cathedral, Monte Carlo, Monaco
Prince Rainier and Princess Grace had three children:
1. Princess Caroline Louise Marguerite, born January 23, 1957, and now heiress presumptive to the throne of Monaco
2. Albert II of Monaco, born March 14, 1958
3. Princess Stéphanie Marie Elisabeth, born February 1, 1965
In 2002, a new treaty between France and Monaco clarified that even if there are no direct heirs of the reigning prince, the principality will remain an independent nation, rather than reverting to France. Due to Prince Albert's enduring bachelorhood, Monegasque law now states that in the event of a reigning prince's lack of descendants, his siblings and their children will inherit the throne. The line of succession is now Princess Caroline, then her children by her late second husband Stefano Casiraghi, who died in 1990, and her third husband, HRH Prince Ernst August of Hanover.
At the age of 52, in September 1982, Princess Grace suffered a stroke while driving. It had been rumored that she was driving on the same stretch of highway in Monaco that had been featured in To Catch a Thief, although her son claims that it was not. It resulted in an accident, and she died the next day without regaining consciousness. Princess Stéphanie, who was alleged by some sources to have been the actual driver of the car, suffered only minor injuries.
Princess Grace is interred in St. Nicholas Cathedral, Monte Carlo, Monaco.
You are a townie, that means you win with the town. Have fun and use your vote wisely!
Pooky's fast and simple 3 rules:
1)Be respectful of me and the other players.
2)Don't quote the mod.
3)Have fun!
All PMs have been sent! Plz confirm by PM and send in any nightchoices you may have.
3-1 against Mith in Fantasy Football.
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Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 1:39 am
Post subject: 2
Day 1 has begun!
With 20 Players remaining it will take 11 votes to lynch a player!
3-1 against Mith in Fantasy Football.
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Swiss Army Townie
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:54 am
Post subject: 3
vote: mastermind of sin
obviously scum.
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Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 7:59 am
Post subject: 4
Damn you, scum! BAH! BAH! BAH!
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Dragon Phoenix
Judge Doom
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 8:06 am
Post subject: 5
Vote Sniklac16
for being a serpent.
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The Cheshire Man
Not a pussycat
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 8:33 am
Post subject: 6
From the information so far given, would it be safe to assume that the mafia are the communists?
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Amb the Hitched.
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 8:35 am
Post subject: 7
2)Don't quote the mod.
Vote Dragon Phoenix
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the Judge!
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 9:24 am
Post subject: 8
Do we get to know how Mgm died, Pookymod?
vote: Wacky
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Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 11:16 am
Post subject: 9
I knew I forgot to put something!
3-1 against Mith in Fantasy Football.
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Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 11:22 am
Post subject: 10
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Daedalian Member
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 1:25 pm
Post subject: 11
well then, doublebah! and wow, a game of mafia actually based around...a mafia! or closer than a comic strip or television show. Not that there's anything wrong with a comic strip mafia, but hey
I don't think we lost very much night 1. I mean, yes, a townie down hurts, but if you know anything about his character, he was probably going to return results of scum every night
Vote: Mgm
two smilies in a row? scum.
Bush/Cheney '08: It's unconstitutional, but when has that stopped us?
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Dragon Phoenix
Judge Doom
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 1:58 pm
Post subject: 12
Unvote Sniklac16
Vote Shtephen
for voting for a corpse.
Inattentive townie or scum trying this as a defence later?
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Dragon Phoenix
Judge Doom
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 1:59 pm
Post subject: 13
*kicks self*
Unvote Shtephen
Vote Shteven
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Daedalian Member
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 3:15 pm
Post subject: 14
Pookster! wrote:
3. MGM(Killed N1)(Multiple Bullet and Knife Wounds)
vote: inhimshallibe
The hungry maw of Twilight snaps, but shall not have its fill,
Until one man hangs by his neck, by half this curs'd town's will
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Daedalian Member
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 3:35 pm
Post subject: 15
Is it customary not to put "random" before random votes around here?
RVote: Peacebringer
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Spaciest of aides
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:23 pm
Post subject: 16
vote peacebringer
What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us.
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Daedalian Member
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 6:58 pm
Post subject: 17
vote: Vote Sniklac16
i do not know this name, therefore they much be my random vote. Oh and hihi!!!
I am female. Which means that I am NOT a guy.
Thank you for your time. That is all.
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Daedalian Member
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 9:35 pm
Post subject: 18
Random Vote:Talitha
, for being right above me.
Iammars' first law of sanity:
If you believe you are perfectly sane, you are not perfectly sane. If you believe you are perfectly crazy, you are not perfectly crazy.
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Daedalian Member
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 10:01 pm
Post subject: 19
Iammars wrote:
Random Vote:Talitha
, for being right above me.
What, right now?
The hungry maw of Twilight snaps, but shall not have its fill,
Until one man hangs by his neck, by half this curs'd town's will
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Daedalian Member :_
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 11:34 pm
Post subject: 20
The footstool reports that Mackay has clean feet. I won't be voting or saying anything (besides this) because my lady will be back Monday. And then I can sit in her lap so in effect she will be my footstool.
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Daedalian Member
Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 12:25 am
Post subject: 21
Seol wrote:
Iammars wrote:
Random Vote:Talitha
, for being right above me.
What, right now?
No, in the list in the first post.
Iammars' first law of sanity:
If you believe you are perfectly sane, you are not perfectly sane. If you believe you are perfectly crazy, you are not perfectly crazy.
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Amb the Hitched.
Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 4:38 am
Post subject: 22
What was Mgms long winded title - just in case its relevant later on....
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Daedalian Member
Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 5:59 am
Post subject: 23
Oh hey, check it out, I DID vote for a corpse! But you misspelled my name, so die!
Unvote: Mgm
Vote: Dragon Phoenix
I don't like the ph spelling. It looks fake.
Bush/Cheney '08: It's unconstitutional, but when has that stopped us?
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The Cheshire Man
Not a pussycat
Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 7:02 am
Post subject: 24
My dad's name is Stephen.
Vote: Shteven
I'll be gone for one week. Be back soon.
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Amb the Hitched.
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i do not know this name, therefore they much be my random vote. Oh and hihi!!!
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okay, unvote.
I am female. Which means that I am NOT a guy.
Thank you for your time. That is all.
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Vote: InHimShallIBe, End of Fools.
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You voted for both of them, Kaoru? Unless you have some special double vote power as part of your role, everyone only gets one vote at a time.
Just wondering!
And wow, I didn't know you could even get a random bandwagon...random votes, sure, but a random bandwagon?
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That's his free custom title dude, so they're the same people.
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Iammars : This is the first time I've had a complai... uh, nevermind.
So, why isn't Wacky lynched yet?
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Talitha wrote:
So, why isn't Wacky lynched yet?
Because he only has one vote?
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Talitha wrote:
Iammars : This is the first time I've had a complai... uh, nevermind.
So, why isn't Wacky lynched yet?
I think I'm picking up a hidden message in there. Unfortunatly.
Iammars' first law of sanity:
If you believe you are perfectly sane, you are not perfectly sane. If you believe you are perfectly crazy, you are not perfectly crazy.
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checking in, and damn
however, as has been pointed out, given it was McCarthy I wouldn't be surprised over mgm being paranoid
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Vote: Wacky
Forgotten, eh? Sounds like trying to hide... sounds like scum![/paranoia]
I'm with me.
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vote Shteven
I'm joining this because a) it's a bandwagon, 2) he voted for Mgm and obviously was not paying attention, and III) he voted for DP after DP voted for him (little more than OMGUS).
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"As far as MoS goes, he is a rather confusing player. He has high levels of thinking and often thinks above the rest of us, so it is hard for us to understand his line of thinking. As well, this could lead to him miss small, simple things that others of us might catch. As for how he acts when he is scum, well that's a little hard to know. He (like the greats of mafia) has perfected the art of being consistent and not acting different when he is scum or town."
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On Friday, at 3:40 p.m., the State Department released its "Draft Supplemental Environmental Impact Statement" for the highly contentious Keystone XL pipeline, which Canada hopes to build to move its tar sands oil to refineries in the United States. In effect, the statement said there were no environmental impediments that would prevent President Barack Obama from approving the pipeline.
Two hours and 20 minutes later, I received a blast email containing a statement by James Hansen, the head of the Goddard Institute for Space Studies at NASA
"Keystone XL, if the public were to allow our well-oiled government to shepherd it into existence, would be the first step down the wrong road, perpetuating our addiction to dirty fossil fuels, moving to ever dirtier ones," it began. After claiming that the carbon in the tar sands "exceeds that in all oil burned in human history," Hansen's statement concluded: "The public must demand that the government begin serving the public's interest, not the fossil fuel industry's interest."
As a private citizen, Hansen, 71, has the same First Amendment rights as everyone else. He can publicly oppose the Keystone XL pipeline if he so chooses, just as he can be as politically active as he wants to be in the anti-Keystone movement and even be arrested during protests, something he managed to do recently in front of the White House.
But the blast email didn't come from James Hansen, private citizen. It specifically identified Hansen as the head of the Goddard Institute and went on to describe him as someone who "has drawn attention to the danger of passing climate tipping points, producing irreversible climate impacts that would yield a different planet from the one on which civilization developed." All of which made me wonder whether such apocalyptic pronouncements were the sort of statements a government scientist should be making — and whether they were really helping the cause of reversing climate change.
Let's acknowledge right here that the morphing of scientists into activists is nothing new. Linus Pauling, the great chemist, was a peace activist who pushed hard for a nuclear test ban treaty. Albert Einstein also became a public opponent of nuclear weapons.
It is also important to acknowledge that Hansen has been a crucial figure in developing modern climate science. In 2009, Eileen Claussen, now the president of the Center for Climate and Energy Solutions, told
Yet what people hear from Hansen today is not so much his science but his broad, unscientific views on, say, the evils of oil companies. In 2008, he wrote a paper, the thesis of which was that runaway climate change would occur when carbon in the atmosphere reached 350 parts per million — a point it had already exceeded — unless it were quickly reduced. There are many climate change experts who disagree with this judgment — who believe that the 350 number is arbitrary and even meaningless. Yet an entire movement, 350.org, has been built around Hansen's line in the sand.
Meanwhile, he has a department to run. For a midlevel scientist at the Goddard Institute, what signal is Hansen sending when he takes the day off to get arrested at the White House? Do his colleagues feel unfettered in their own work? There is, in fact, enormous resentment toward Hansen inside NASA, where many officials feel that their solid, analytical work on climate science is being lost in what many of them describe as "the Hansen sideshow." His activism is not really doing any favors for the science his own subordinates are producing.
Finally, and most important, Hansen has placed all his credibility on one battle: the fight to persuade Obama to block the Keystone XL pipeline. It is the wrong place for him to make a stand. Even in the unlikely event the pipeline is stopped, the tar sands oil will still be extracted and shipped. It might be harder to do without a pipeline, but it is already happening. And in the grand scheme, as I've written before, the tar sands oil is not a game changer. The oil we import from Venezuela today is dirtier than that from the tar sands. Not that the anti-pipeline activists seem to care.
What is particularly depressing is that Hansen has some genuinely important ideas, starting with placing a graduated carbon tax on fossil fuels. Such a tax would undoubtedly do far more to reduce carbon emissions and save the planet than stopping the Keystone XL pipeline.
A carbon tax might be worth getting arrested over. But by allowing himself to be distracted by Keystone, Hansen is hurting the very cause he claims to care so much about.
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Thursday, July 12, 2012
The Best Times For Blazers
There are two occasions when the blazer comes into its own, and those are the off duty lunch and late afternoon/early evening social events when an odd jacket is not quite enough and a suit a little too formal. It helps that blue jackets are at their best in the sunshine and after dark.
The look of a blazer can be varied quite a bit by its accessories, particularly trousers and shoes. In summer they are best complemented with lighter-than-the-usual-gray-flannel trousers. Try wearing cream or pale gray, and set them off with brown slip-on shoes or spectators during the day. Evening on the other hand is the one time any man can wear a bow tie with confidence, and look good in the process.
In the photograph, two Churchwell brothers in light colored trousers for Saturday lunch. André wears his with a knit top and a neckerchief while Keith is in a dress shirt and a summer necktie.
33 comments:
- superchick said...
good post will but I just wrote a post on why bow ties are no no's, a cravat is more manly , more style. the bow tie belongs in public memory to men with problenms as regards personality I think. I want to ask a question what do you think of blazer badges? I think a blue blaze can be worn at any time, in summer they are great with unlined insides plus double breated
- July 12, 2012 at 8:56:00 AM PDT
- Matt Ketsdever said...
There is something not quite right with Keith's trousers from my perspective - perhaps my browser is misinterpreting the color or pattern or my eyes are completely shot.
I'm not a fan of the embroidered badges on blazers. Of course, if you've been awarded some military medal, in keeping with the blue blazer's derivation from military uniform, by all means wear it, but it seems a bit over-the-top or "costume-y" - all that lacks would be the yacht club commodore's white cap with 'scrambled eggs' for the complete effect.
As to bow ties - I couldn't disagree more with Superchick. Of course, bow ties are de riguer with dinner jackets, so a blanket elimination of them won't pass muster. While I certainly admit to personality problems, I enjoy the facial framing and acceptable non-conformance of a bow tie. How bland a life it would be with only four-in-hands? Cravats, scarfs and ascots have their place, but not in my regular wardrobe. I wouldn't wear anything but a four-in-hand for city business, but for after-hours, country activities, or a weekend, they're just the right note. - July 12, 2012 at 10:07:00 AM PDT
- superchick said...
I actually would ask a bloke to take off his bow tie if he turned up for a date wearing one, I think they are embarrassing at least in Italy but everyone to their own of course. I also think that men who wear them are finecky, is that the right spelling? Whereas the cravat signifies a man who knows who he is and doesn't give a damn if you dont know, in the 20's A double breasted suit was worn with a cravat a lot of times.Honestly matt I've never met a man in a bow tie who wasnt slightly cranky but I may have met the wrong people. When reading your post I laughed as it brought to mind Joe E Lewis in "some like it hot". Lol
- July 12, 2012 at 10:44:00 AM PDT
- Roger v.d. Velde said...
There's no point in attempting to write-off bow ties. Until very recently it was the cravat that was condemned as only fit for retired colonels, yet now women think them sexy - especially since David Beckham sported one. Fashion tastes are no measure for classic apparel.
Matt, if you zoom the original photo Keith's trousers are striped. They always play havoc with a lens. - July 12, 2012 at 2:54:00 PM PDT
- Matt Ketsdever said...
@superchick: Removing clothing at the outset of a date? I like your thinking! If that was sure-fire, then more men would be wearing the little devils...hmm.
@RvdV: I agree with your sentiments on the classics. Now I see the stripes in the photo. Its no wonder that politicians and those in front of cameras avoid them - very disconcerting. - July 12, 2012 at 3:19:00 PM PDT
- OldSchool said...
Men dress so badly today that anyone in a blazer is immediately better dressed than the vast majority of those around him.
- July 12, 2012 at 7:04:00 PM PDT
- superchick said...
i dont know one woman in italy who would go out with a man in a bow tie, they are deeply uncool, yes it was true about the cravat but not always sooooo true i saw this young geezer bout 12 years ago dressed fantastic in rome, he wore an oatmeal sports jacket with a very light sky blue shirt ans a paisley lemon cravat, his strides were light grey and he wore nice tan slip on shoes, very dark hair and tanned skin, yeh that was when cravats were out but he was the business, bow ties nah, believe me unless its a formal dinner you look silly
- July 13, 2012 at 5:24:00 AM PDT
- NJS said...
Humphrey Bogart carried off bow ties often and well and so did WSC and British televison interviewer Robin Day; Cary Grant sometimes wore one too.It all depends whether the tie suits the individual. There is a problem when the tie is so prominent a feature that it is wearing the man. If Superchick, you are dating men who are overwhelmed by a small piece of clothing, you may be dating the wrong men in the first place!
Blazer badges are an area of contention. I guess that club\regimental buttons and tie are subtler. However, Benson & Clegg (Tailors By Appointment to Geo VI and the current PoW) do a big range of blazer badges, so they must be arguably OK - but not with a club-coloured blazer and, I have to say that, although a family member has a blazer with a college badge, I wouldn't wear one - but that's just a personal choice. - July 13, 2012 at 6:59:00 AM PDT
- OldSchool said...
Fortunately, we do not have to rely upon Italian women when deciding upon our choice of attire. - July 13, 2012 at 7:14:00 AM PDT
- NJS said...
Old School - I am amazed that any woman would be remotely interested in a man who would meekly change his clothes, to her demands, on a first date! Surely, he's the type with the 'personality problem'.
- July 13, 2012 at 7:37:00 AM PDT
- Isidro Gonzalez said...
So much contrversy over the bowtie! While they are not very popular amongst those who prefer the "Continental" style of dress favored by Italian men, they retain a good deal of popularity in the US and UK. There is a degree of confidence required when wearing one as they are considered different despite their long history. But a man who can wear a bowtie with confident nonchalance will see that confidence emerge in other areas...
- July 13, 2012 at 8:01:00 AM PDT
- Bob said...
Dr. Andre looks unbelievably good.
I wore bow ties for years. Never got approached by an Italian girl, I don't think. Now I know. - July 13, 2012 at 9:33:00 AM PDT
- Brummagem Joe said...
"but I just wrote a post on why bow ties are no no's, a cravat is more manly"
Actually I'd say this was a reversal of reality. While accepting that the bowtie is not to everyone's taste or even mildy eccentric, the cravat is definitely a more or less obsolete or at least comical garment because of the Thurston Howell III associations. The bowtie on the other hand requires a bit of sprezzatura to bring off but no more than say spectators surely. They shouldn't be worn with DB jackets or check suits of any sort but there's no doubt they give a lift to most outfits. As to taking orders from one's partner on what to wear, I'll forbear to comment. - July 13, 2012 at 10:06:00 AM PDT
- NJS said...
I don't know Thurston Howell III and, frankly, I'd be even less inclined to be uinfluenced by his blight than by the diktats of a first date!
- July 13, 2012 at 6:17:00 PM PDT
- NJS said...
If she doesn't like what you are wearing and starts to call the shots - ab initio - then: sling her over your shoulder and take her back to your cave; in some place where they know what's what and that the best advantage of Woman is nice presentation of herself and a closely-guarded tongue; especially around the Med.; where my recollection is that they best understand these essential truths! Yo! Bros! Superchick - you need some education, Babe.
- July 13, 2012 at 8:22:00 PM PDT
- Horatio said...
Former haberdasher Harry S Truman and one-time prison camp escapee Winston Churchill were two men who wore bow ties with double-breasted suits.
I'd say that bow ties don't go well with any jacket, double-breasted or otherwise, with a low button stance, but can look good with one that has a higher closure. And let us not forget the double-breasted option for black tie.
We are far enough away from Gilligan's Island to be able to wear cravats/ascots again—if we're man enough, that is ;-P - July 13, 2012 at 11:55:00 PM PDT
- Brummagem Joe said...
"Former haberdasher Harry S Truman and one-time prison camp escapee Winston Churchill were two men who wore bow ties with double-breasted suits."
I don't recall ever seeing a picture of Churchill post WW 1 wearing a bowtie with a DB suit apart from sometimes with a frock coat which is technically double breasted but this had disappeared by the early 20's. Truman certainly did but then he also wore pocket hankerchiefs protruding from his breast pocket with his initials embroidered on them.
"I don't know Thurston Howell III"
Symbolism....he's merely a stereotype of the comedic territory into which the cravat has been pushed....along with monocles and spats. - July 14, 2012 at 7:42:00 AM PDT
- Brummagem Joe said...
Btw before I upset too many people with my comments about the cravat, I have no problems with neckerchiefs as worn superbly by Andre Churchwell...no doubt I'm picking pepper out of fly poop here but there just exists (in my mind at least) a undefinable distinction between the two.
- July 14, 2012 at 8:55:00 AM PDT
- Horatio said...
Sounds good, Joe.
I'd say the difference between a cravat/ascot and a neckerchief is the shape (long with pointed blades for the former, square for the latter) and the resultant necessary difference in how they are tied and worn. The latter have more bulk, too.
Dr. Churchwell's neckerchief looks good, and he looks good in it. I'm not sure that I would try it, but then again, I never thought I would wear ascots, so who knows what the future may bring?
On a side note, I really have come to prefer the stuffed pocket square to the folded one, though I think I would fold for a funeral. - July 14, 2012 at 12:26:00 PM PDT
- NJS said...
Horatio - Funerals are all about folding!
- July 14, 2012 at 2:19:00 PM PDT
- superchick said...
you might date american women with a bow tie but not in italy, this is a good post because we all buy clothes out of a deep freudian responce to the libido
- July 14, 2012 at 5:14:00 PM PDT
- superchick said...
lol, did you get approached by mrs marple types cos they like bow ties
- July 14, 2012 at 5:15:00 PM PDT
- superchick said...
Ive never seen an italian man who was normal wear one, the only ones ive ever seen are those who want to achieve some kind of simpatico scattiness or eccentricity, they are viewed as poverini (poor souls)
- July 14, 2012 at 5:17:00 PM PDT
- superchick said...
but i have noticed that bow tie wearing men arsìe very often encouraged to think it shows intellect= believe me it doesnt. It shows a kind of tom woolf type eccentric overdressed and trying to get attention because mummy didnt love him enough as a child, I really think that could be the connection. Its the most horrendous unfathomable thing, its like socks that match nothing the trousers or the shoe or fancy waistcoats or single breasted suits in black or blue. all terrible but hey everyone can do what they want.
- July 14, 2012 at 5:27:00 PM PDT
- superchick said...
robin day was exactly the kind of "old lady" im talking about
bogart, a tough hombre but looked silly in his bow tie
grant=see above - July 14, 2012 at 5:32:00 PM PDT
- superchick said...
by the way if you remember the film gatsby then youll remember redford dressed in a suit with cravat, looked great, it took away the formalness of a suit
- July 14, 2012 at 5:35:00 PM PDT
- NJS said...
Ahem! There was nothing remotely old-ladyish about Robin Day. He was actually built like a tank and when a group of youths once tried to rob him in the street he beat them up. He was the originator of the intellectual television debate and, according to Joan Bakewell, a 'social menace' with the ladies.
- July 16, 2012 at 9:07:00 AM PDT
- Brummagem Joe said...
"He was actually built like a tank"
Day was built like a tank, small but tankish. I met him on one occasion in the seventies. Then of course there was A. J. P. Taylor and his three wives and two coincident families. Andre Malraux, Ian Fleming, Billy Wilder, Erich von Stroheim, FDR, Churchill, then those two noted swordsmen F. E. Smith and David Lloyd George, Freddie Ayer who had more wives and girlfriends than I can count. Who knows maybe Mussolini wore one occasionally. The wearing of bowties does not necessarily imply any lack of appeal to the fair sex, it depends entirely on the neck they're suspended around. - July 16, 2012 at 10:45:00 AM PDT
- NJS said...
Coincidentally, I also met Day in the 1970s. I remember that he was tank-like, as we agree although I do not recall his height. Pop Larkin in the tv series of H E Bates' 'The Darling Buds of May' often wore a bow tie and the ladies flocked around him.
- July 16, 2012 at 12:02:00 PM PDT
- superchick said...
robin day could have been the circumlocutory core of the bow tie soul
- July 17, 2012 at 11:45:00 AM PDT
- superchick said...
it Italy it does
and Italy is the last word on fashion - July 17, 2012 at 11:47:00 AM PDT
- superchick said...
well he came over as a total old lady and honestly he was no sway a hard man, you understand that the moment he opened his mouth God rest his soul
- July 17, 2012 at 11:49:00 AM PDT
- NJS said...
Superchick - Day will, if for nothing else, be remembered for his hammering of John Nott and his 'here today gone tomorrow politician' remark. He'll be remembered more than most and, Babe, just watch this space.
- July 17, 2012 at 4:57:00 PM PDT


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Clip this muted spotlight to your robe, and you can tend to baby at nighttime without turning on disruptive room lights! Helps baby doze through feedings and diaper changes. The same light used by nightshift nurses, with a 180 degree rotating arm and 7-minute auto shut-off. Clips to cribs and headboards, too. Won't affect night vision. Batteries included. See Product Details
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By Van
from New Orleans
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Great for nursing at night.
Great idea, wore out quickly
By Elizabeth
from Salt Lake City
About Me First Time Parent
Great for night time diaper changes and feedings, without being bright and disruptive to baby or adults...unfortunately, the light began to dim after only a week of use. Now, it is too dim to be useful. I shouldn't have to replace batteries every week with an LED light.
Love it
By Jessica N
from Staten Island, NY
This tiny light really has power. I use it 2 change and feed my 4 month old. He sleeps in the same room with my twin boys which are 18 months now since they sleep in complete darkness having a plug in nightlight on all night would just wake them up. One thing I would have liked if the light wasn't so bright it's almost like walking with a portable flashlight. I would recommend this product parents of multiple children or parents wanting to ensure other children do not wake up during the night.
Great idea but too bright
By DomFR
from Boston, MA
I use this little light all the time...for midnight feedings, midnight diaper changes, and just to quickly make sure my little one in the bassinet beside me is okay. Having said that, the LED lights on this are FAR TOO BRIGHT. The light hurts my eyes, so I can only imagine it would hurt a baby's eyes and possibly harm their eyes with repeated exposure. I end up clipping this under my pajamas and my bra to dull the light. Or, I put my hand over the little bulbs to soften the light. But, my need for a little light like this is great so I put up with the inconveniences anyway. I sleep with it on and don't even notice it. The quality of its construction really is fantastic.
Perfect light
By Candy
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Fantastic light, perfect for new mom checking on baby, or night time feedings and diaper changes! Brilliant!
By Happy Mom!
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I can't believe I made it through my first baby without this light! It is perfect for feeding my newborn without fully waking her up! I also use it to read with my toddler in bed....LOVE IT!!!
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This is little - it clips anywhere - if you forget or get distracted the light(s) will turn off by itself
It's just ok
By Vero mom of 3
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It gives you some light but not enough, i don't like to point it directly at the baby but i clip it to the lamp next to my bed. I do love that you can clip it anywhere.
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This must be the 6th one I've purchased. They are great gifts. The battery replacements are pricey but still less expensive than purchasing a brand new one. We use ours all the time to check on the children. We used to use it for diaper changes in the middle of the night but don't do diapers in the night anymore. My husband even uses it when he's looking for something in the morning and doesn't want to disturb me. We just clip it on the lamp shade so we don't lose it or our 20 month old will get it and lose it.
Love this!!
By TwoFussyBoys
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I love this for nursing and changing diapers during the night. It makes it easy to see with out having to turn on the light and waking up baby!!
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I bought this product for night time diaper changes. I quickly found other uses. My 2 mo old daughterSuffers from acid reflux and chokes and vomitsAt night. It was hard to see if she was throwingUp or spitting. I used the gentle light to look atHer face at night. I keep this light with me at allTimes. Also during night feedings I keep a logFor Breastfeeding times and soiled diapers and itWas difficult to write on it w/no light. Now i shineThe light while Breastfeeding and I could see what I'mWriting. Best product for a gift also. I'm buying another.
Didn't know what I've been missing!
This is a great product! I've purchased 3 of them as gifts for parents having second children. They all say what I say......"Had no idea I've been needing this all along!" I'd be lost without it!
One of my top 10 baby must-haves!!!
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This is so practical. I have one in each child's room, one in my room, and one in the diaper bag. We call these "clip lights" because they clip easily onto clothing, leaving your hands free to tend to your child (or dig through a dark diaper bag in the car on a road trip at night!). Batteries are easily replaced with standard large button size batteries from your local discount store. The light is excellent to see by, but not overstimulating at all. Has been awesome for night time nursing, helping older children during the night, finding things in a dark drawer or closet, finding one's way in a power outage, digging in a dark car floor for a dropped toy when traveling, and on and on. This is one baby item that will really get used, and well after baby is gone as it's so practical!
Boys can share room because of this ligh
This light is so great that I purchased 2 more for baby gifts. It gives a lot of light to a specific small area. Perfect for a diaper change or checking baby in the middle of the night. I'm lost without it! How did I manage without it for my first child?????
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Love this product!!!The light is perfect for night time feedings and diaper changes. It never wakes the baby and I can see everything I need to. It's also easy to use. It just clips right on to my shirt
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Dear Mr. Simon, I have been a customer of Omaha Steaks for over three years, ever since your company opened a retail location in Des Peres, Missouri in August of 2006. Both my husband and I enjoyed your products and purchased them every other month. Sadly, however, this has not been the case for the past six months and I will explain why. Your Ideal Gift, which has been run under different names in the past (Perfect Gift, Perfect Grill, etc.), contains an item that both my husband and I cannot eat crab. We love everything else. The steaks are juicy, the hamburgers delectable, the pork chops are amazing. Yet were stuck with an item that we cant eat and do not have any friends close enough to give this item to. My attempts at trying to get this item substituted for another of equal or lesser value say chicken breasts or any other item not seafood related - in your retail store have been met with refusal and I am forced purchase this item, only to have it languish in my freezer until I throw it out. This, in my eyes, is a complete waste of money and (no pun intended) leaves a bad taste in my mouth for your concern for customers who have dietary exceptions. You are, unintentionally, excluding customers who would otherwise be bringing in money to your stores. What I am asking is for consideration when it comes to customers with dietary exceptions in your retail stores. Yes, I can call and place an order and get a substitution there, but I am then forced to pay shipping, just for the privilege of not getting an item that will make us sick. I dont see how this is fair to your customers. Please consider this request and allow your loyal customers with dietary exceptions to make substitutions within reason at your retail stores.
What I am asking is for consideration when it comes to customers withdietary exceptions in your retail stores. Yes, I can call and place anorder and get a substitution there, but I am then forced to payshipping, just for the privilege of not getting an item that will makeus sick. I dont see how this is fair to your customers SavingsAccount Online
You don't have to be close to someone to give them the crab. Give itto a neighbor or coworker.
There likely is a good reason that they do not allow substitutions. I suggest you order online.
you know that's not a bad idea i don't know if they'll do it but... there are people out there who are allergic to seafood or shellfishitems and there could always be a chance that in taking the fish item out ofthe package that the allergic person could end up touching the flesh. which could trigger an allergic reaction (ok maybe not, with all the packaging... but it'd be a good reason totell them at least) =)
It beats throwing it out, if you can't donate it somewhere or give itaway. If all else fails, if there are other customers in the storeask if anyone wants some free crab. I'll bet you'll get some takers!
I am asuming this Ideal Gift combination is a good deal even if you donot use the crab. I cannot fathom that you otherwise would bepurchasing it. If you are unable to have a substitution for whatever reason and youare concerned about wasting food, then why not just omit the offensivecrab from the package when you order/purchase it at the store? You still are getting the good deal on the rest of the items and atthe same time are not buying something you will not use. It is not the best solution, but at least you will not have to storethen discard something you do not want.
why that pesky shellfish thrown in irritates you. I live on red meat. Medium rare burgers, steaks, mmmmmmm. Lamb, the other red meat. Ihave four ribeyes sitting in the fridge right now. Sadly, I can onlyeat one at a time. I'll have to freeze the remainder until such timethat I can consume them. So much meat, so little time. I agree that throwing seafood into the mix seems a bit odd. I guessthis is to appeal to those poor souls who don't consume red meat orpork. My dad lived on red meat, until he died. He was a really happyguy. Using chicken in place of the crab is a good idea.
I have ordered from Omaha Steaks for many years. There is one packagethey offer with sole. I do not like fish so I am in the same boat asyou. However I still order the package any give the sole to myparents. You say you do not have anyone to give the crab meat to. Whatabout your neighbors or a local food pantry or homeless shelter. I think Omaha offers package deals to get rid of excess inventory. Italso gives people to try a little bit of everything Omaha has tooffer. If you do not like certain items in a package deal, you havethe ability to purchase things seperately. Of course you will pay morebut then this way you are not wasting food.
I hope they consider your request, seems like a good one to me! Otherwise, you can give the crab to me! :-p
to not allow a substitution for a specially priced offer. They set theprice based on what they put in the box. If you want something else inthe box, then you really don't want the special (and at the specialprice). If I've read this correctly, you're buying this stuff at a store. Whynot try their Web site? They have so many options, it's wild. (I justordered some stuff from them.) I'm sure you can find a combo closer toyour tastes at a good price. Many times, shipping is free.
WE have the same taste! My freezor has that exact item in it from thesame special! I was just thinking today I need to pack it on some iceand take it with me for the holidays to someone that will eat it!
Nothing but few responses stick to the original complaint. I just gave my personal opinion, people can take it or leave it, justlike any other opinion! Good Day
I'm basically with you on this, but for one thing. They DO allowsubstitutions via mail, just not in the retail stores, if I understandcorrectly. When you purchase the package in a store, is it alreadymade up, in a box or what have you? Because I can see why theywouldn't allow subs in that case. Even if the items are in the storesindividually, it may have something to do with inventory levels - theymay have the exact number of items on hand to make a certain number ofthe packages, and if they have to take out one item and sub it withanother, that's at least one less package they can make. Online/mailorder is likely a different set up and they can put togetherindividual packages for you with less trouble. I know it stinks thatyou have to pay extra (shipping) to get what you want, but at leastyou can get it.


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4334 Sherwood Way
San Angelo, TX 76901
At Honda of San Angelo we offer an extensive selection of new Honda models and used cars to drivers residing in the greater San Angelo,TX area. Our dealership also has many customers that visit us from the Abilene, Midland and Brownwood areas because of our everyday low prices and West Texas' BEST Selection of new, certified, and used Honda cars!
Looking to purchase a new, fun-to-drive vehicle? Plan on making a visit to our San Angelo Honda showroom to see our new Honda selection for yourself. Many of our customers favorite models are the Civic, CR-V, Pilot, Accord and Odyssey among others. We feel confident that once you see these Honda vehicles firsthand you'll quickly realize why the Honda brand is so popular with drivers everywhere.
If your not interested in purchasing a new vehicle, no worries! Honda of San Angelo has a comprehensive selection of used cars from many of today's top auto brands. All of the used cars within our inventory have gone through extensive and thorough inspection by our service team to ensure that they are of high quality prior to their sale. We encourage you to come visit our San Angelo car used dealership for yourself so we can help you find the perfect car to drive home in!
Regardless of whether you choose to buy new or used at our Honda dealership and service center serving Abilene, Midland and Brownwood, you can rest assured knowing you'll drive away with a car loan or lease that not only fits within your current financial situation but your future fiscal goals. You're also our neighbor. And, we promise to always treat you as part of the equation.
As your neighborhood Honda and used car dealership we want to work with you throughout he duration of our relationship to ensure that the vehicle you purchase from us runs for tens of thousands of miles to come. We can work on your vehicle to perform routine car service and repair with the utmost care and use only Honda parts. We can also help you acquire any authentic Honda parts through our parts department if you enjoy performing the repair on your own.
Need collision repair or other auto body work? Visit our Lithia Body & Paint of San Angelo.
Interested in learning more about Honda of San Angelo? Give us a ring at (877) 537-6097 or visit us in person at 4334 Sherwood Way in San Angelo, TX. We look forward to seeing you soon!