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WSJ now reporting on a Microsoft branded Windows Phone
(Concept Surface phone by YrOnimuS)
Back in October, China Times reported that Microsoft was working on a self-branded Windows Phone for release sometime in 2013. Shortly after, tech site BGR also reported that they had heard similar information. Likewise, we went on record with our own source stating that indeed, Microsoft has a device in the works.
Now, the venerable Wall Street Journal is going on record with a source of their own stating that Microsoft "…is working with component suppliers in Asia to test its own smartphone design" although they are unsure if they are going to go into production with it. The device is reportedly between 4 and 5 inches, which as far as phones go is quite vague. No other details were provided and of course, Microsoft had no comment.
Previously, we speculated that Microsoft was exploring a range of options, possibly as a failsafe should the first line of Windows Phone 8 devices fail to gain significant market share. We're still sticking to that notion, as we can't imagine Microsoft is completely ready to jump in the smartphone game. Even if they did so, we would see this much like the Surface: direct sell to customers through their physical Stores and online, but no carrier deals.
Clearly Microsoft is getting into the PC hardware game—not just peripherals—so the notion that they would make their own "Surface phone" is hardly far fetched. What form it takes and how it is marketed will be the real interesting part. But what do you think? Should Microsoft risk alienating their OEM partners and make their own device? Sound off in comments.
Source: WSJ
There are 138 comments. Sign in to commentsepatown says:
I knew this was coming. When Microsoft say they're all in, I have no doubt in my mind what they mean. Looking forward to that Surface Phone to complement my Surface RT.
MadDogFL62 says:
Bring it. CES 2013 is an ideal time for rollout. Nokia, HTC and Sammy are already turning things into a goat rodeo. It would be a 920 / Surface throwdown - unless VZW really coughs up the 922.
It's time for the CUSTOMER to be the big winner for a change. This manufacturer / carrier nonsense is getting stupid and does not compliment the WP8 platform whatsoever.
db4williams says:
MadDogFL62 says:
Too bad that Microsoft had NO IDEA the momentum the Surface Tablet would / did create for Windows 8. The media is all over Surface and Windows 8. Some outlets are somewhat tech savy and some just don't get it. Regardless, Microsoft has them looking and talking - even if the talking is out of their backsides!
I was hoping that 11/29 was going to be an announcement for both WP8 and Surface Phone. This WSJ news release is nothing more than BS - an attempt to scale back rumors and anticipation for the Surface Phone. In short, this is a poor effort by Microsoft to try to give Nokia, Sammy and HTC a chance to move some product before they step in to get WP8 back on track. The Surface Phone can't come too soon.
sholokov says:
Seems like this is in a distant future, if at all.
ZuNuKoo says:
Now the question is to wait or buy a wp8 that's out now... I'm waiting.
Agent-P says:
I figured that If I got a new WP8 subsidised on contract, I could probably sell it later if Surface phone rumours become more solidified and hopefully make back at least the subsidised price I paid (ideally I'd make a profit on it). Then I could put that money toward the Surface phone. That's my plan.
MediaCastleX says:
Thanks for the tip! =D
bjax says:
I couldn't have said it better myself. That's exactly what I plan on doing. I'd tell that to anyone that wants a WP8 device. Don't wait, jump in. There will always be something "coming soon" that will be better than what's out. People who want a GSIII should've gotten it when it came out (assuming they could) instead of thinking if they wait another year, they can get a GSIV. Get a good device now, you can always sell it later and use that money towards the purchase of the new, and you might be able to get it cheaper from someone that has it to sell on Craigslist or Ebay.
aubreyq says:
CronGM says:
Yup, I was thinking just the same. Besides, it's hard to hold out when you have magnificent hardware like the HTC 8X and the Lumia 920 on launch window.
Redux7 says:
Shame on you for not including the Ativ S...Frankly im falling ore and more for that device. !!
wpguy says:
Personally, I might mention the ATIV S if Samsung was a little more vocal about their product. I know the Galaxy SIII is their favorite child, but come on, if they are in the game then they need to act like it.
toy#WP says:
I am with Daniel in thinking that this is a failsafe just in case the current phones fail to impress which from the current look of things is not the case and as such I won't hold my breath on a surface phone.
If you think about it, the surface tablet was required given that most OEMs did not warm up to the idea of windows on a tablet in the past. However with windows phone, the have a sure partner in Nokia and as I said, the surface phone is probably just insurance in the event that the current phones tank or (God forbid) Nokia goes under.
jabtano says:
Well the L920 is great the 8x is good the ATIVs is not going state side. If I was MS I would be making one selling it in my stores with it being able to run on all the major carriers No exclusives.
TyCleary says:
Yeah, couldn't agree more. After falling in love with the Surface design, I am more than interested to see what Microsoft can put out. Fingers crossed we won't have to wait too long.
schlubadub says:
I'm waiting... no microSD in the flagship devices (920 or 8X) was a deal-breaker for me. I'd like to consider the ATIV, but the screen is massive and the design is boring :P
mjrtoo says:
I'm with you, I don't think the current crop of WP8 phones are all that awesome, ATIV is interesting but not available here. Some combo of the 820 and 920 might be more interesting.
shilla says:
Totally agree - no microSD has me leaning towards the 820 or even the 8S.
overdosed-dying says:
I can wait until January. LOL
ZuNuKoo says:
Also, it didn't hurt Apple and look where they are now.
unstoppablekem says:
But the gsiii is the #1 selling android phone, yet the galaxy nexus is pure google, and is a "google" phone. So...
MediaCastleX says:
The ATIV S and Odyssey will also impress with sales #GalaxyforWindows =P
unstoppablekem says:
Dude... HTC and Nokia too.
jabtano says:
The ATIVs is not coming state side.
ALpHa.Q.RoUgH says:
The question is does Nokia still get all the exclusive apps and quality put into the Lumia phones or does that trickle down to the Surface phones? If the answer is Yes, then that hurts HTC & Samsung as collaborating partners.
JoeDizzle33 says:
Nokia gets those exclusive apps because they make the apps themselves.
ALpHa.Q.RoUgH says:
So that's my question how does that work. Microsoft makes the platform/OS for Nokia to use, Nokia uses it and brings the app and makes them exclusive yet if Microsoft was to make their own phone they can't get access to apps made for their own platform? Puts them in the same light like I said as HTC & Samsung yet they're the owner.
aubreyq says:
No one here knows what agreements there are between MS and the OEMs. No one.
Kormiko says:
Not all Nokia exclusive apps are made by Nokia. Don't they have Draw Something and Angry Birds Roost? And then there's Risk and Connect 4 made by EA for Nokia only... at least for a certain amount of months.
aubreyq says:
Right. There are:
- Nokia-made exclusive apps for Nokia phones
- 3rd party apps that are exclusive to Nokia phones for a limited time period, then they go the rest of the OEM phones
- Nokia-made apps for all OEM phones (e.g. Nokia Drive, City Lens)
WhiteNiteLite says:
Most of those apps aren't exclusive forever though. Nokia plans to release most of them to all phones after a few months.
OMG55 says:
Yeah, but what we need to remember is that, "Less players the game means less competition" or we really only want companies that are serious about WP making the devices, no matter how good they look. Nokia is a good example of a serious player. I still would like to see "Good" commercials prior to release End with coming (date here). By doing this, they could garnet more interest, so when it is released, people are already holding out for it. I don't understand the logic of waiting to.do everything basically after release. I for one have been posting videos about the 920 & 8S\X to all of my Facebook friends from my W8 Pro computer. Average consumers don't visit tech site like us, therefore, they will most likely have already gone out and purchase a new phone. This is why we as WP supporters should be posting images, comparison videos, rumores devices,etc to our Facebook, twitter, LinkedIn,.or any other social site. Why do.you think Apple leaked its device info? And don't say it was an accident, because it wasn't; they had to counteract the 920 to prevent potential user migration I'd they thought the 920 was better. Real techies will leave, but average consumers probably won't unless we've capture their mindshare by releasing.
theefman says:
Apart from WP fans why would this appeal to consumers if the likes of the 920, 8X and Ativ don't? Unless they have some killer tech I don't see how it would do better if the others fail.
MediaCastleX says:
Don't need killer tech and those other phones will bring em ALL in...just Ask my main man, @Kok_Andy! =P
naw1 says:
+1. it needs USPs and i dont know how MS is going to do that. The htc 8x is pretty much THE windows phone experience. While lumia 920 is kinda the windows phone on steroids. Where and how would this new phone fit in? i hope its not by removing features other phones have. Imagine: exlucive to surface phone, notification center!
OMG55 says:
Same reason the Surface appeals to consumers. It gas great design, great OS, and Microsoft's brand has more recognition than the other wp8 manufacturers. The surface is beginning to repair the reputation of sub par hardware manufacturers have created around MS OS's. MS did the right thing of setting the bar as far as hardware goes.
nikon133 says:
I'd expect - if MS does that, they will time it right for next hardware refresh (which will happen next year anyway). You know, 4C processors, improved graphics chip, more storage, more than 8MP camera... and premium design/looks. While WP8, arguably, does not need more horse power (than current crop) for huge majority of users, performance looks good in PR campaigns and sells well. I also makes great substitute for not having anything new to offer in terms of usability - look at iDevices, great example. But then, WP8.1 (or 8.5?) might be ready by then, and that is another thing Surface phone can be first with. MS can always introduce artificial time gap between release of first WP8.x phone, made by MS, and availability of OS update for others. And then, like others mentioned - it can be contract-free, like Google does with their Nexus line. Yes, there are things to differentiate Surface phone from other WP's. Though I'm personally pretty much set on Lumia 920, I'd be happy to see development in that direction.
nikon133 says:
Double post - sorry :)
jcagga says:
I think his phone will hit the shelves when Nokia lumia 920s exclusivity ends.
smontoya2 says:
A Zune HD inspired design?Now that would sell like hot cakes. I'd pay retail for something that hot.
MediaCastleX says:
I am in complete agreement on this one...not for nothing, I REALLY like when they make hardware! I have a couple of their mice and keyboards , plus just LOOK at that Xbox! =D
RequiredSkills says:
It makes sense to see if the current oems can fulfill Microsoft's vision. If not it would be stupid to not have a back up plan
MediaCastleX says:
I would actually prefer to see them release something if and when the other phones sell phenomenally...that way there really is little risk in selling them and its just one more awesome device we get to drool over! =P
OMG55 says:
Honestly, I'm down with MS and Nokia joining forces to create one company or become a division of MS like Skype to produce phones according to MS specifications. If HTC and Samsung don't market and really push WP this time around, I say they should be ousted like LG period. F*** and its Nexus phone, the design that was leaked, looks sh*tty.
aubreyq says:
"...ousted like LG period."
LMAO! I'm pretty sure LG simply bailed and wasn't "ousted."
jon_blaze_0187 says:
I was just in tmo 2day, and they had no idea when the 8x was coming. I thought the 14th. But the rep never heard of the phone. Only the 810. Which he didn't know the model #. I thought carriers were getting trained? Oh well! Schooled him. I need something good for tmo. Been with my hd7 for almost 3 yrs. And the WiFi bug is killing me. Have to charge my phone almost 3 times a day! Bring my shit, now please!
wpguy says:
Three years with your HD7? ;) Replacement batteries for the HD7 can be had for $5-10 on Amazon. I am also tired of the WiFi bug. If only I wouldn't have used tethering that one day...
yeungl says:
If apple and google are doing it, why not Microsoft?
guitaristd00d says:
Cannot wait for this!!
kittshelby says:
Honestly, I think Microsoft is doing this (making their own hardware) to raise more awareness and hype around Windows 8 and WP8. Just like with the Surface, Microsoft wasn't aiming to sell tons of them, the point of Surface was to raise awareness and hype around Windows RT/8 tablets. Likewise would be the case if Microsoft makes a Surface Phone. It will be to raise more awareness and hype around WP8 (which we all know is a little lackluster). So really, Nokia nor any of the other OEM should be threatened by this. The Surface Phones will likely only be sold at Microsoft stores, and therefore, won't sell tons. All in all, I think Microsoft is very smart to be making their own hardware.
Agent-P says:
While I agree with this, one thing I want to point out is that I'm sure someone will come by saying something along the lines of "but Nokia has been advertising WP a lot". That's only partially true. What Nokia has really been promoting is Lumia. WP just happens to tag along for the ride, but it doesn't get the main recognition. If Microsoft pushes out a Surface phone, then WP itself will be the star of the advertising.
m0ja74 says:
Hell yeah they should! And i'll be one of the first in line.
unstoppablekem says:
Maybe they will announce it at MWC or CTIA? Not CES, 2012 was Microsofts last year.
OMG55 says:
That's exactly why I'm not purchasing the 920 like i initially wanted to, because unlike the whiners in here, I can stick with mango or 7.8 a bit longer as my phone does everything I need it to.
aubreyq says:
I wouldn't stay on 7.8 just because of the "potential" of a Microsoft phone that, if it comes out, will probably be at the end of 2013. But hey, if you don't mind staying on 7.8, more power to you.
based_graham says:
They will probably annouce the Surface phone when they annouce new Windows Phone 8 features. I assume that is around MWC additions like notification center etc.
phatboy66 says:
Woww this is amazing, I'm getting a Lumia 920 asap but it will be nice to see what Microsoft has prepared for us if this news is true
downhillrider says:
Well I got a surface today and if ms can build a 4.8+ screen size phone with the same quality build I'd be in no questions asked.
Gken says:
you and me both buddy.
dukrem says:
I think if they decide to produce the device it will be because they feel the OEMs have failed to produce a compelling enough device or failed to market it to a wide enough audience. Imo in this situation they would go all out with full carrier availability and a huge advertising campaign. They will get those phones into the hands of as many people as they can even if they have to give them away. This is their plan Z.
They would try and make the device appeal to the masses - as thin as the galaxy S 3 with a similar screen size, minimal bezel (the 8x would be a very sleek device if it werent for that bezel), and a good battery.
Sparxy19 says:
I really want a Surface phone! With a 4.4" screen just to be different..... And if it had a VapourMg body i would buy it in a heartbeat
LaNiQuE says:
If it's as cool of a design as the surface I think they should go for it and use the same design team because I think if they make a phone they should start with being innovative make a phone thats the phone of the future they don't need anything for "right now" HTC Nokia Samsung has that covered if a mini keyboard/phone cover snaps on it I'll be hype lol
OMG55 says:
Until I see some real commercials on for WP8, I'm going to say they don't have it covered, they have descent designs, but by no means have they done enough advertising wise to put WP out to the mainstreamers, therefore MS has no choice but to do it themselves by setting the example like with surface!!
stephen_az says:
Microsoft has had numerous technology iniatives in the past that have never seen the light of day. They become test beds for new tech and other innovations. Until they announce that a phone is real, people are reading far too much into this. As far as postponing a purchase for a rumor, how well do all those Courier dual screen tablets work for people?
OMG55 says:
Not well at all, that's why MS killed it at the expense of losing a damn good employee Charlie Kindle; because product is good, no matter what the employee thinks. Charlie was so upset the MS killed his baby that he resigned. Do you honestly think the courier would have sold millions of units?? If your answer is no, Then MS made the right decision.
Wael Hasno says:
Rumour or not, I can't afford buying one of the current WP8s right now so I might as well wait for Microsoft's new baby. :)
cedarlog says:
i think they are going to stay away from 4.x inch screen leaving it for OEM' s and introduce something unique with 5 inch screen in that way they are going to compete with android more
Tips_y says:
Or they could also go the other way and produce a 4.0" phone and take the iPhone 5 head-on.
abe3211 says:
Go big or go home, that's the risk MS is taking, is it going to piss of some OEM's? of course. But hey, this is their backup plan right ? So if the OEM's cant get it right then yes they should by all means do what needs to get done to to get those market shares. An awesome product needs awesome marketing. get it done OEM's.
samyaras says:
We dont want another Zune HD. Microsoft should not worry about hardware and leave it to the specialists and instead start building the ecosystem by helping developers or do something to get some quality apps. Alternatively, they can buy a manufacturer.
Honestabebread says:
I doubt Microsoft would build their own phone. If they did make a Surface phone, I think it would be more akin to the Nexus line of products. HTC or Nokia would build the Surface phone but MS would control it heavily.
OMG55 says:
What was wrong with the Zune HD? From all indications, it is a great device that was never marketed properly leaving it to fend for itself basically; otherwise many say it wa actually better than the iPod. Now make like a sheep and get the flick outta here
Narr says:
I was going to start hunting around for a sim free Lumia 920 today but it seems it is only available at Phones4U and might or might not be sim free. Another option for me is to wait for 7.8 (my Titan continually drops calls so I need another phone), or at least a complete list of features and buy one of the older Lumias, especially if the Surface phone rumours turn out to be true.
pr0phecy says:
I believe that if Microsoft eventually brings out their own "Surface" Windows Phone, it is going to take a while. They must give Nokia and other OEMs the time get their phones out for quite some time. So people who are on the fence on deciding to wait for it or buy a Lumia 920 now... I'd say get your 920 now, enjoy it, hug it, caress it. I know I will. What breaks my heart though, the Netherlands is unfortunately not one of the first 15 countries for the 920 release. I'll have to wait until end of this month. But the waiting hurts! It hurts like hell. You guys know if there are Lumia 920 support groups where I can talk about my wait-pain?
- "Hi, my name is Pr0phecy."
- "Hiiiiii Pr0phecy"
ladydias says:
Lol, my heart goes out to you. ;-)
OMG55 says:
Its not bothering me to wait for a potential surface phone because I'm an L900 user and my contract is not up anyway; I might as well ride it out in anticipation of a surface phone. My L900.is working fine anyway =D
hcoreyh says:
I don't see how MS could better Nokia. HTC and Samasung maybe. But I guess Nokia's exclusivity gives them reason to release one unlocked and compatable with all carriers if HTC and Samsung fail. They don't necessarily need to compete with all their oems at this stage.
OMG55 says:
Have you seen the surface?? Enough said. However, I do believe Nokia is the only one who can compete with MS as the is a concept device on YouTube that looks like an L800 but with a brushed nickle body; it could be the surface. As stated above, I think Nokia should become a division of MS like Skype and they should design phones there. If a manufacturer doesn't market, put forth great designs, and contribute to ecosystem growth, then they should be out. The three step approach, like the three screen approach MS is taking with win 8 & WP8 should be followed, if not, they should be out. What is a good phone without marketing? What is an ecosystem without apps? So, if you're not in on all three fronts like MS/Nokia, then you don't deserve to put the WP OS on your device
paulm187 says:
Microsoft should also provide its own mobile service
aubreyq says:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! BAD IDEA!!! That's a sure way for a company to lose money.
Tips_y says:
I first did not believe that MS would actually come out with their own MS-branded phone. But the more I think about it, the more it makes sense. I think the phone will eventually come out to future-proof MS in mobile. Although unlikely, but if the first generation WP8 handsets don't sell, the "Surface Phone" will be released soon. On the other hand if they sell well, the Surface Phone will come out later, but it will eventually come out. This is now what I believe.
SlickShoesRUCrazy says:
tough choice to make.
Got a Lumia 900 around launch for free, but I am due for an upgrade right now.
To get the Lumia 920 or to wait to see what Microsoft brings, that is the question?
aubreyq says:
You're eligible for an upgrade already? Get the 920. Sell the 920 if a MS phone comes out to light.
SlickShoesRUCrazy says:
Ya. I originally had a Focus, but when Microsoft was having the smoked by windows phone promotion, I went in with my old iphone and got smoked.
they ran out of titan IIs so they gave me a Lumia 900.
roache says:
i would like to see the suface phone be the next gen high end wp8 phone or i am getting the ativ s. i have verizon can't upgrade my trophy til end of jan.
Big Supes says:
This has only been a matter of time. Microsoft know the importance of Windows 8 and the technological climate we live in, in regards to the competition. 'Surface' is Microsoft's catalyst to help the entire platform succeed.
hiphopboy8x says:
comming boy is the last tile of MS eco, welcome to change the world
Mohit tyagi says:
well it wuld be intresting to see after surface
MrSean490 says:
Sounds cool.
cdb033 says:
I would definitely buy a surface phone.
slpaige says:
I doubt that Microsoft making its own phone would alienate OEM partners. For one, it would be direct sales at full price most likely. No subsidized costs unless they did something like they are doing with the Xbox where you are paying a monthly fee over 2 years.
ejlee072006 says:
My wish list wp8 device
4.8 inch gorilla glass edge to edge screen,until Nokia makes this I ain't jumping ship since the 920 is so similar to my l900,slap on the 7.8 on this bad boy..but surface phone with my wish list features?? But Im gonna miss my Nokia apps!!smh...
jjmurphy says:
My wish list: use the zunehd body and put the very best camera they can fit in it.
gfiz says:
the way Nokia has bungled their launch of the Win 8 Lumia's, can anyone blame them if they do?
aubreyq says:
Fair point, but MS probably had this in the pipeline before knowing that Nokia would have a crappy WP8 launch.
lubbalots says:
IMHO, no phone out there will have the high quality look and feel of the iPhone. Now if MS is to make their own phone, it better have high quality standards as the surface.
OMG55 says:
You really sound dumb! You don't think MS could produce a beautifully designed device?? Go back to you iSite
cdbstl76 says:
While I appreciate your opinion, I couldn't disagree more. My opinion is, while you iPhone is good, its not all the great in terms of look and feel. There are many others that feel and look better. Again, these are all opinions, which is good that we all have choices. Please realize this is a WP site, and your iPhone adoration isn't going to be greeted well. You will be more appreciated on your iPhone sites.
nickengineer says:
As it's a Hobbit year:
3 for the Korean Lords under the sky
7 for the Taiwan kings in their ROC home
9 for the Finnish men, doomed to die
1 for the Software Lord on his tiled throne
In the land of Redmond, where the Surface lies
One phone to rule them all, one phone to find them
One phone to unite them all and with the OS bind them
In the land of Redmond, where the Surface lies.
Ok, I know I won't get a laureateship out of it, but there you go.
OMG55 says:
Well said, however, I don't think Nokia will fail
nickengineer says:
Nokia.. Fail.
Ah but that's the thing. The nine mortal men take the Rings and live on, when they should have died. Nokia takes WP... And lives on too.
laserfloyd says:
Nice! lol
laserfloyd says:
So yeah, I'll go ahead with my 920 purchase and when the Surface phone (or whatever) is released I'll just do an early upgrade if it's absolutely smokin'. That way my wife can get my 920. :P
ealexand#CB says:
Well. I was planning on getting an 8x or 920 right away, bit I just bought a surface. I think I'll wait until after Christmas and the Surface doesn't feel as new. Then I'll get a new toy. If the Surface phone is out then, I'll definitely give it a look
aubreyq says:
Dude, if that phone ever comes out, it will be at the end of 2013. No way it will come out earlier.
zzdarkwingduck says:
So the best option I can see for MS to take is making the surface phone a 4" high end phone. Other OEMs are making the 4" as the low end model and apple is the only one with a high end 4" offering. 4", 720p display, 32GBs base model for the same price as the iphone 16GB. give it the same vaporMg as the tablet, the same 22 degree angle on the edges, maybe even a kickstand. With SD card and HDMI port. It's going to be hard to out do the 920 in sheer specs, but making a 4" high end phone won't be stepping all over the carriers feet per say, since they are not catering to that market.
andrelamont says:
Would love a Surface phone if it had a guarantee that carriers could not block updates...I would like updates to come straight from the MS servers when they pull the switch.
I like what Google is trying to do with the Nex 4...off contract $349. I can do without the LTE experience but do like it
Of course modern HW specs is a must:
- HD screen
- SD Card support
- dual-core processor
- 1GB of ram
- 2200mh+ battery
- 4.3-4.7 screen size
And most importantly it has to have the a above great design/look. It must have the lust factor and has the appearance of a finely engineered device.
cdbstl76 says:
I had to go back to non LTE for a while, and it killed me. I personally can't live without LTE, especially when in NYC for work.
Xaphoon148 says:
Bring me my yellow 920 now Nokia!
Vheissu says:
The device is between 4 and 5 inches so you're telling me the phone you're reporting exixsts is in fact a phone sized phone. Thanks for clearing that up WSJ
hoonigandad says:
Ooo! Good thing I have to wait to get a phone! This could be interesting....=)
bilzkh says:
A Surface phone may make Microsoft's life easier in terms of marketing Windows Phone, i.e. doesn't have to worry about biasing an OEM.
cdbstl76 says:
While I would welcome the phone, I certainly wouldn't wait to upgrade in hopes that some secret hardware project will, perhaps, see the light of day. I don't doubt they are developing, but no one can guarantee it will ever be for sale. Tired of waiting around for rumors. By the way ATT/NOKIA, get your heads our of your asses and give us something already please.
ealexand#CB says:
good point. But maybe by then I can get a Verizon 8x for free or cheap w/ contract
westwaswon says:
MS should make a really thin phone. Many complain about WP's bulk so it'd be nice to see an iPhone 5 type device. Maybe revive the Zune HD design; its seriously slim.
JustinMSalvato says:
I WAS going to get the HTC Windows Phone 8X on T-Mobile to replace my Dell Venue Pro, but I think I'll wait a little longer for a Microsoft branded Windows Phone
josep2 says:
This is annoying to no end. They should have had this ready at launch.
razorhawk9 says:
Absolutely. ATT is killing the platform (seemingly intentionally) by getting every descent phone as an exclusive. Nokia is not helping by making the best Windows Phone 8 device, the Lumia 920, an exlusive to a single carrier in almost every country worldwide. The 8X while nice, is more of a midrange device that does not stack up well against the competition. With Nokia going exclusive, Microsoft was forced to endorse the 8X because it is not exclusive. Samsung, well who knows what they are doing, but it seems they are hedging their bets in case the platform does take off, but they certainly do not seem that interested. So, that leaves Microsoft to make sure their platform succeeds with ATT trying to kill it and Nokia trying to kill their own company.
Cartman says:
I would welcome a Surface phone! They need to capitalize on the Surface brand and put out their own hardware. I don't expect the hardware will be quite as good as what Nokia can make but it would be nice to see what they can do.
I would like to see them sold unlocked and unsubsidized exclusively through the Microsoft Store and online. Leave everyone else to deal with the mobile operators. Perhaps they can release updates without having to go through the mobile operators if sold this way.
Benny1434 says:
How cool would it be if they had a Touch Cover like cover for the phone version as well!!!
Have it add just a keyboard and double as a cover would be amazing!
Ekalb22 says:
Hopefully this turns out better than the Surface... Considering that hasn't had a very good response I can't imagine there will be as much of a hype now for the phone which is a shame.
Gken says:
whoa what? surface not having hype? From what I have heard it has lots, in fact the most hype microsoft has had in awhile.
SMMinke says:
As a current Arrive owner not planning on jumping for the 920, 8X, ATIV... I'm hoping that Microsoft releases a phone that matches the Surface in Ingenuity. Arrive folks are such for one reason... The awesome physical keyboard. Us business owners rely on it for our typically verbose correspondence and it's just simply the fastest way to enter long sections of text. So, here's hoping the Surface Phone has an ultra-thin physical keyboard AND that it has a snap-out kick stand as well. I use my arrive in "Keyboard-out" mode all the time even when not using the keyboard... Simply for the great viewing angle when the screen pops out and tilts 30-degrees. If Sprint would have marketed that feature alone on TV, many more would have the Arrive right now. Sprint was way too focused on their shiny new iPhone and their Droid army, though.
Let's just say this. If Surface Phone launches on Verizon (and I think it will) and has anything to address us folks who love physical keyboards... This Arrive owner will be breaking the Sprint contract and heading back to Verizon. ;-)
sanien says:
Yhey are not going to alienate any OEM if they run it like the surface and just sell it from MS directly. They will just bring a lot of attention to WP 8 - Win Win
kusharora says:
A surface phone with an ultra thin physical keyboard....for us people who need to type a lot of text would be great. If they sell it directly it wont alienate their OEM as such. Nokia can continue to innovate and with surface MS can go the nexus way...
DavidinCT says:
SOunds like I am going to get a Window Phone 8 device off contract ! I want a surface phone now ! (on Verizon too)
Jojogill says:
If Microsoft is doing a tablet, why not a phone too? People count MS out when it comes to hardware design, but look at what they did with the Surface, the XBox, and even the Zune (all of them). If they're going to get into the phone game, now is the time.
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I do not see why the big story on Microsoft's Surface Phone. I think it ment for the partners take away so of the design and technology of it and incorporate it into their own device is my understanding from Ballmer! So Nokia can pretty much copy Microsoft and clone it if they want!
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We are firing TMo in a few weeks and defecting to AT&T. My wife is trading in her HD7/Mango for a highly coveted iPhone 5. I really want an upgrade from Mango, and hope 7.8 is coming sooner than later. I plan to take a wait and see attitude about the Surface phone before I get 920/8X. I expect the next big push to be for the Surface Pro (on my wish list), and then the Surface Phone. I am not waiting that long though, maybe through January.


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WINSTED >> The Board of Selectmen is expected to wrap up its unfinished business at Tuesday night's meeting.
Agenda items include the official approval of a loan through the town's brownfields fund to the Winchester Housing Authority Development Corporation to help pay for unexpected remediation at Carriage Maker Place. Winsted's Selectmen signed off on the loan, which totals $80,000, at the Jan. 22 meeting. Tonight, brownfields consultant Arthur Bogen will be on hand to discuss the loan agreement.
Loan terms state that the Winchester Housing Authority has until October 2014 to replay the loan, which is intended to clean up additional contamination at the Carriage Maker Place site.
The Winchester Housing Authority discovered a third tank and oil at the Gay Street construction site, which requires additional remediation above and beyond the original estimates.
Originally, the Carriage Maker Place project was the first proposal to tap Winsted's brownfields revolving loan fund — a $500,000 line of credit with the Environmental Protection Agency — ending a parade of extensions.
Winsted was in danger of having the line of credit revoked due to inactivity before approving Carriage Maker Place, as well as a loan to remediate contamination at Whiting Mills.
The line of credit is set to expire on July 31, but any repaid funds could be used to establish Winsted's own revolving loan fund.
The Board of Selectmen will also hear from King, King and Associates regarding findings of the town's Water and Sewer Commission.
King, King and Associates was named the town's auditing firm, starting with the 2012-13 fiscal year, but before the consultants could begin their work, the 2011-12 audit ran into delays due to missing paperwork and what town officials termed "accounting irregularities."
These issues eventually led to an investigation into the town's accounting and cost town finance director Henry Centrella his job. He was terminated just before his 36th year with the town, and two months after he originally planned on retiring. Continued...
The Water and Sewer Commission was one of the town entities involved in the accounting issues, ranging from unapproved fund transfers to a decade of deficits.
The latter issue was news to members of the Water and Sewer Commission, who stated that they had received contrary information from Centrella.
Town attorney Kevin Nelligan told the commission of their issues after a preliminary review of previous audits, and King, King and Associates performed a full forensic audit to help the town's investigation.
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Eva Longoria, a co-chairwoman for Obama's campaign, is hosting a salute to the president Sunday evening. Antonio Banderas, Rosario Dawson, Marc Anthony and other entertainers are scheduled to appear at the event, called the "Latino Inaugural 2013: In Performance at the Kennedy Center." San Antonio Mayor Julian Castro will address the audience.
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Constables, Sheriff Spots Up In Anderson
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Challengers in the Anderson County Republican primaries on Tuesday are seeking to oust the sheriff and constables for precincts 1 and 3.
In the sheriff's race, incumbent Greg Taylor faces Richard Welch. A primary win for either candidate will be tantamount to winning the office since there is no Democrat running for the office in the November general election.
In the Precinct 1 constable race, Jeffrey Taylor is battling Ronnie Foster for the Republican nomination and the nominee will face incumbent Democrat Larry Bennett in the general election. Bennett has no opponent in the primaries.
In the Precinct 3 constable primary, longtime incumbent Kimberly Dickson and Ronnie Holcomb are vying for the Republican nomination. The winner will not have any opposition in the general election.
Precinct 2 incumbent Constable Doug Lightfoot does not have an opponent in the Republican primary, but will be opposed in the general election by Democrat Horace Poullard.
Unopposed in the Republican primaries and the general election are incumbents Tax Assessor-Collector Teri Gavrey, Precinct 3 Commissioner Kenneth Dickson and Precinct 4 Constable Gary Briley.
With 30 years of experience in law enforcement, including the past eight as sheriff, Greg Taylor, 49, said tremendous improvement in operation of the sheriff's office has been achieved during his tenure in training, equipment, response time, professionalism and integrity.
Taylor started his career at age 19 with the Rusk Police Department, then worked 11 years for the Texas Department of Criminal Justice and worked up to lieutenant. After serving as a reserve deputy, he was hired as a patrol deputy for Anderson County Sheriff's Department in 1995 and was promoted to captain in 1997. He was elected sheriff in 2005.
His opponent, Welch, 39, has served as a police officer with the Palestine Police Department for four years. He worked for the Anderson County Sheriff's Department from 2005 to 2009. He worked for the Texas Department of Criminal Justice for 10 years and also worked briefly for the Whitehouse Police Department. He was in the army three years and the National Guard 6 1/2 years.
Welch said he was asked by a lot people to run and that he sees a lot of changes that need to be made in the sheriff's office. He said he knows he would do a better job than the current sheriff and if citizens will give him a chance, they will see the results.
Welch charged that the sheriff's office is not being run efficiently and with the leadership and experience.
The sheriff's office is being run by a politician and not a public servant and it is being led by intimidation, Welch further claimed.
Greg Taylor called the allegations "absolutely ludicrous."
Taylor said he is proud of the work his staff does. "I and they work hard every day to make this county a better place to live and will continue to do that and will try to improve operations every day," he said.
In a time of tight governmental budgets when all law enforcement agencies need more officers and more equipment, Greg Taylor said the sheriff office's has done a good job of doing more with less and maintaining a high level of professionalism and integrity and response.
He said the sheriff office has obtained grants, donations, utilized seizures from criminals and taken advantage of every way to improve operations while defraying cost to taxpayers.
Greg Taylor pointed out the sheriff's office also works closely with the DARE program with children in schools and started a Dare to Ride program that provides refurbished bikes to children.
Welch said he would "control the budget better" instead of doubling the budget as he said Greg Taylor has done since he has been sheriff. Greg Taylor says he's a conservative yet he's doubled the budget, Welch charged, claiming the sheriff department's budget has increased from about $2.5 million to more than $4 million under Taylor's leadership. He further charged that the sheriff runs over budget every year.
Greg Taylor responded that the county added 300 beds to the jail facility since he has been sheriff, increasing operating costs.
"We've added jailers, increased the jail population, food costs are on the rise and gasoline on the rise," Greg Taylor said.
The budget has increased as needed and the sheriff's office works well within its budget, he said. "If we have ever run over, it's due to rising prices, medical costs and things out of my control," Greg Taylor said. "We are very frugal with tax dollars."
Welch said a public servant is needed to run the sheriff's office. Charging the office is not structured properly, Welch said he would structure the office differently. He claimed a captain being over the patrol division and criminal investigation division currently is a conflict of interest when internal affairs investigations arise.
Welch said he would bring back the K-9 unit to strengthen drug interdiction. The specialized unit would be flexible and work varied schedules based on intelligence and information from confidential informants, Welch said.
Candidates for the Republican nomination for Precinct 1 constable are currently employed by the Anderson County Sheriff's Office. Foster, 46 an investigator has worked for the sheriff's department since 1996 and Jeffrey Taylor, 49, has been a deputy two years. Both have been associated with other law enforcement agencies
Foster, who worked for Palestine Police Department six years, said, "There's a need in the southern part of the county for more help from law enforcement ,and I feel I could be an asset to the community (to help) Palestine Police Department and the sheriff's office."
Foster added, "I believe a massive amount of teamwork is necessary to hopefully curtail the criminal element but also to make a difference in our community and to get people involved in our well-being and our future."
Foster said he would assist the police department and sheriff's office with criminal investigations. He added that he would forge an alliance between the community and law enforcement.
The Precinct 1 constable's office is in need of modernization, Foster also said.
Jeffrey Taylor has almost 20 years of experience in law enforcement, also having served as a deputy sheriff and district attorney investigator in Houston County. He worked with the Texas Narcotics Control Program with the governor's office and for the Texas Department of Criminal Justice 10 years.
Observing an abundance of narcotics trafficking in Anderson County and a high rate of traffic accidents in the south end of the county, Jeffrey Taylor said he would focus on illegal narcotics trafficking and traffic enforcement as well as try to combat a rash of burglaries.
Jeffrey Taylor said there is not a good working relationship between the constable's office now and the sheriff office but he would work to get a good relationship.
"I just want to make this a better and safer place. It's time for a change," Taylor said. He vowed to listen to complaints and concerns.
Ms. Dickson, who has served as Precinct 3 constable 10 years, is opposed by Ronnie Holcomb, a warrant officer and transport supervisor for the Anderson County Sheriff's Department, in her bid for the Republican nomination for a new term.
Holcomb, 62, who was a building contractor 30 years before joining the sheriff's department about seven years ago, said he has the desire, the experience and the education to serve as constable.
Ms. Dickson, 45, said she has worked hard as constable and would continue to work hard in a new term. "I take my job very seriously. ... I would continue to do my job and keep this a professional office," Ms. Dickson said. "I'm doing everything I'm supposed to do; I would continue to do that. I'm here for the constituents in my precinct and everybody in Anderson County."
Holcomb said he has 1,500 hours of training from the Texas Commission on Law Enforcement Officer Standards and Education. He
has taken the civil process class three times and undergoes ongoing training every year.
Ms. Dickson said she has more than 4,000 law enforcement training hours, a civil process proficiency certificate, a bachelor's degree in psychology and criminal justice from The University of Texas and a master peace officers license.
Holcomb said that if elected, he would take care of the judge in Precinct 3, would try to assist anybody that needed anything and would be available and try to cut down on crime. He said he would fight illegal dumping and work closely with the two schools in the precinct.
Ms. Dickson said she has turned the constable office into a working, functional office with a productive work environment.
She serves civil process papers, performs routine patrol and has been involved in high-speed chases, family violence calls and other types of service calls.
Ms. Dickson said she works with the sheriff's department, the highway patrol and the game warden. She also strives of litter abatement. Her policy on illegal dumping is that if she digs through dumped litter and finds a name, she gives the dumper 48 hours to pick it up and if they do, she does not write a citation.
"I feel they learn something if they have to pick up trash they dumped," Ms. Dickson said.


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Happy New Year, one and all. It's time to rest up from the holiday season and get ready to celebrate again — this time at the official re-opening of the newly re-named Waterfront Park Community Center building which includes our Bainbridge Island Senior Center. Although we have begun to move our activities back into the building, the official re-opening celebration is scheduled for Wednesday, Jan. 23, beginning at 11 a.m., directly following the Bainbridge Island Senior Center annual meeting at 10. This is an event you won't want to miss, so here is what you need to know. The public is invited to join the party for the grand opening of the Waterfront Park Community Center and of course we are included. Representatives from the city of Bainbridge Island, the Bainbridge Island Metropolitan Park & Recreation District and the Bainbridge Island Senior Community Center will all be participating. Why so many dignitaries from so many organizations? Because all of these groups played a part in creating the improvements that have transformed the Waterfront Park Community Center. The building is owned by the city, managed by the parks district and home to both the nonprofit senior center, Bainbridge Island Senior Community Center, and the Park District's 50+ On the Go programs. The grand opening will begin with a welcome from Jane Allan, the senior center's recently retired former director. Her talk will provide brief histories of the senior center, the remodel project and the building's name change. Councilwoman Debbi Lester will discuss the financing of the project through the city of Bainbridge Island councilmanic bonds and senior center nonprofit funds, the formation and purpose of a task force for the project and the importance of public/private cooperation to make it all happen. Bainbridge Parks board member Lee Cross will talk about the design of the new building in relation to its programming and the parks district's role in the process. She will be followed by Don Dorman, who will recognize the contributions of the architects, designers and contractors to the project and explain how the selections were done. Sue Barrington, our newly appointed director of the Bainbridge Island Senior Community Center, will conclude this part of the program with comments on the many partners that made the Waterfront Park Community Center a reality and an envisioning of the future for this special place. The ribbon-cutting ceremony which follows will be handled by the mayor and Don Fisher, past president of the senior center, who was so much a part of the re-model project which happened during his term as board director. Tours of the building will follow, with refreshments provided by the senior center's social committee led by Delores Bussell. Everyone is invited to make Wednesday, Jan. 23 a banner day, because the Waterfront Park Community Center belongs to all of Bainbridge Island. You won't want to miss this important event. Come early to join the opening at 11 a.m. and learn about Bainbridge Island's newest facility. Take a tour, see old friends and make some new ones while enjoying the refreshments. You may even want to check out rental opportunities of these fresh new facilities for your personal events. If you are a senior center member, you should arrive an hour earlier for the senior center's annual meeting at 10 a.m. to have a say in the election of the board members who will serve us for the next two years. Then get ready to celebrate with everyone else at 11 a.m. for the official opening of the building we call home. So keep your comments: We ask that all participants own their words by logging in with their Facebook account. It's a simple process that will take seconds and helps keep our comments free of trolls, cranks, and "drive-by" commenters. We reserve the right to remove comments from anyone using screen names, pseudonyms or false identities. Please refer to our Terms of Use for full detail on participating on our site.
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TELL US: Should Bred Dogs Be Sold in Pet Stores?
Los Angeles city councilors recently voted to ban them. Should Massachusetts have a similar law?
You see their sad faces everywhere these days from Animal Planet to your Facebook feed: animals in need of a home. The shelters are full and getting more packed by the day. In fact, October is National Shelter Dog Month.
The Los Angeles City Council took a vote last week that is aimed at addressing this overcrowding issue. Animals from commercial breeders may no longer be sold in Los Angeles, CA, pet stores after city councilors voted to ban them this week, according to the L.A. Times. The vote was not unanimous, so it will be voted on again next week for a final decision.
Fines for non-compliance include a first-time penalty of $250. People will still be allowed to buy directly from breeders.
In the story, Elizabeth Oreck, leader of the effort as part of Best Friends Animal Society, said "They're inbred, they're overbred, they're irresponsibly bred," Oreck said.
Should Massachusetts consider a similar law? Tell us in the comments.
7:08 am on Saturday, October 27, 2012
Yes, Massachusetts should follow the same law. These are animals, not commodities to make profits from.
Aimee Blair Federico
7:08 am on Saturday, October 27, 2012
The sale of animals in a pet shops should be outlawed. Dogs do not come from "reputable breeders" as the staff will say when asked. No reputable breeder would ever sell their dog to a pet store. The dogs in those cages come from puppy mills and backyard breeders and by purchasing one, you feed the monster and open the door for another pup to take its place. Puppy mills mass produce dogs and exist purely for profit. The more people buy, the more they breed. Churn and burn operation with zero regard for the life of any of their animals. Mother dogs live only to produce liter after liter in deplorable conditions. Her pups are taken from her at an age when they are most vulnerable to infection and they are crammed into cages and transported all over the country to stores who sell them to unsuspecting customers. It's hard to resist that cute face staring back at you, but when you throw money down for that dog, you've just given your support to the puppy mill who produced that dog. If you haven't seen pictures or photographs of puppy mills, take a look online. Educate yourself. I would hope that after seeing the conditions that these animals are kept in, you would not support any pet store that sells puppies. If you want a dog, cat, rat, guinea pig, whatever, there are plenty of shelters and rescues to visit. Make a difference that way. Save the life of a shelter or rescue dog and be part of the solution.
7:26 am on Saturday, October 27, 2012
Why do you think Natick cares about this? It's in California. Where is our local news?
7:35 am on Saturday, October 27, 2012
Natick should care because everyone should care about this. It is prevalent all over the United States. Open your eyes!
7:18 pm on Saturday, October 27, 2012
Natick should care and people everywhere should care. This is an issue that extends way beyond California.
guy wills
7:35 am on Saturday, October 27, 2012
shut down the puppy mills anyway you can, buy from local breeders or dog rescue
7:45 am on Saturday, October 27, 2012
Absolutely, Massachusetts and the whole country should finally act to prevent this form of animal abuse.
Joyce Torelli, Realtor Consultant
8:29 am on Saturday, October 27, 2012
I once read from one of the animal publications that we put to death over 3-4 million cats and dogs a year. Why are we allowing any breeding at all, or any pet stores that sell cats or dogs at all until all shelter animals have a home? When will we stop believing it is our right to have almost anything available, as opposed to a privilege?
What good is a dog show or a cat show of special breeds desired by adults, when so many including those are left behind in shelters? I don't have the answer - but it sure would be great to ban breeding of any kind, until every shelter animal had a loving, responsible home (ie. fixed, neutered - which is healthy for the cat or dog too). And because the sad few have abused, the greater of us must pay the price - that being said, we need to have stronger laws around found abuse of "owning" pets. These animals have no control over their lives, we do! And we can't abuse that power, but rather choose wisely and kindly.
Susan LaDue
8:33 am on Saturday, October 27, 2012
Yes, Natick should care! The puppy industry causes massive unnecessary suffering. Want a dog? GO TO A LOCAL RESCUE! I recommend Save A Dog in Sudbury. They're the best.
Susan Manning
10:17 am on Saturday, October 27, 2012
Susan: I've heard such great things about Save a Dog! Thank you for mentioning them!
Irene Del Bono
8:33 am on Saturday, October 27, 2012
Many people think purebreds can only be found in pet shops and with breeders, but the shelters are full of purebreds. Having "papers" doesn't prevent them from ending up in shelters. So many pets are being abandoned, put down or given away to irresponsible homes where they will just end up on the streets, that breeding should be discouraged. People who want pets are just as happy with an abandoned pet, and too many people who buy purebreds with papers think they are going to get rich breeding dogs themselves.
Ed Bertorelli
8:52 am on Saturday, October 27, 2012
As long as there are states,especially in the mid-west, that do not OUTLAW puppy mills and mass breeding we will have dogs that are transported here after being raised in horrific conditions. A serious breeder will have nothing to do with pet store operations. I've heard horror stories about sick dogs being sold to families.
Fact is though- the Northeast (because of widespread spaying/neutering) has a dog shortage and many rescued dogs now are from the South- there are great organizations that send dogs north to find new homes- many friends of mine have "southern" dogs.
Mary MacDonald
9:01 am on Saturday, October 27, 2012
The two dogs in the photo are mine, Sam and Ginger, and they came from a rescue that brings large breed dogs and puppies to the Northeast from Tennessee. That rescue posts photos all the time of sad examples of adult dogs, purebreds, that are now in need of homes because people underestimated what a St. Bernard would cost to feed, or that a Great Pyrenees is not a "Golden Retriever with white fur." I do think people should always have the option of a purebred dog. But there are other options than pet stores.
9:20 am on Saturday, October 27, 2012
As a volunteer at a dog shelter very close to Northboro for 7 years, I have seen many "mother dogs" come in to the shelter from years of being in a cage and having litter after litter from being in a puppy mill. They have such sadness in their eyes yet are still so loving and kind. It takes months for them to relax and begin the rest of their lives with a loving family. Lets do what we can to stop these situations.
Charlie Calcagni
9:48 am on Saturday, October 27, 2012
Yes it's time to stop this unnecessary cruelty to animals. So honestly what does it mean to have a pure bred anyway? It's sad to see these loving creatures in kill shelters because owners do not understand the responsibility it takes to take care of the cute puppy that grows up.
Shari-Ann Murphy
10:45 am on Saturday, October 27, 2012
Aimee, I couldn't have said it better myself. As a dog trainer, of 20 years, I can give my opinion from a socialization point of view. When a puppy arrives at a pet store, the dogs are not handled with care. They are handled like bags of kibble. Keep in mind, this is the first real contact with humans that these puppies have. As far as pet store employees are concerned, they are not schooled in proper handling techniques. Being rough with a puppy at any age can set the stage for aggression towards humans. Never mind the stresses of traveling up to that pet store from the midwest. The Amish are the largest producers of puppymill puppies in the US. They aren't exactly loved or handled with care.
When a puppy arrives at a pet store, the store allows as many people as possible, including small children, to handle the dog. "Oh, I want to see that puppy", so they take him from the cage and let strangers handle the dog. This severely stresses the dogs out. When you are a 7-8 week old puppy, constant handling by strangers can cause all kind of psychological problems for those dogs.
Not only should we ban selling puppies at pet stores, but these specialty places like "Pick-A-Pup" and "Puppies Galore", should be closed down and the owners fined.
For the people who think they are "saving the puppy" by purchasing it away from that enviroment, you are only allowing the puppy mills to stay in business. ADOPT a shelter pet or go to a reputable breeder.
12:13 pm on Saturday, October 27, 2012
Okay maybe I should have written my comment differently -- I know people are passionate about their dogs -- but if this is such an important issue why didn't you interview Natick dog owners and visit pet stores in Natick. Again, where is my Natick news?
Sharon Burkett
3:03 pm on Saturday, October 27, 2012
I couldn't agree more. So many people who purchase from pet stores have excuses. They want the latest trendy dog, they have allergies and want a particular breed, they don't "have time" to do the research.
You can get so-called hypoallergenic poodles, bichons, etc from shelters. You can get purebreds. You can get puppies. You can get house-trained dogs. Most importantly, you will get a dog who is grateful for every second he has with you.
paula from Westwood
3:36 pm on Saturday, October 27, 2012
My dogs come from either the Animal Rescue League of Boston or situations where families can't take care of them anymore due to change in status such as moving and/or Divorce. My most recent adoption is from Pine Ridge Animal Shelter of Anna's Place, Dedham, MA; a pet rescue and adoption center and part of the Animal Rescue League of Boston. There is no reason at all to support Pet Stores. AND, with all the hurricanes and other weather situations, many animals are turning up homeless. For example: Hurricane Katrina. Plenty of animals to be adopted out there!!!!
6:17 pm on Saturday, October 27, 2012
My last 4 dogs were adopted or resuced. I have 2 now, one rescued, one adopted. Wouldn't have it any other way.
7:21 pm on Saturday, October 27, 2012
I volunteer for a particular breed rescue and I cannot tell you the horror stories of dogs that have come from pet shops. They usually come from Puppy Mills and are not normally in very good health. Pet shops do not screen families who buy a dog - there is no counseling given, no attempt to educate about the breeds, etc. There are so many great dogs (cats too) available from shelters or breed rescues. If you feel you need a puppy, then at least go to a REPUTABLE breeder. If you do not know of one, a local vet or a breed rescue organization can assist you - or at least they may know of places not to go to.


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The following is from the American Atheist Radio Series
I suppose that I love music, of all kinds, at any time, at any sound level, more than most people do. But I find that this love of music is shared by all of the Atheists I meet constantly everywhere I go. They manage to be saturated in it. A great number of them are musicians, both amateur and accomplished.
And so, I was delighted to receive here in our American Atheist Center a magazine titled Humanist in Canada, of uncertain date, probably February of 1971.
There is a veritable burst of Atheism — Humanism — in every country in the world these days. And, in these other lands the Atheists are discovering and claiming for their own those in our ranks about whom we did not know heretofore.
In the issue of the Humanist in Canada here before me, there is much attention given twelve musicians, and fourteen heads of state. The magazine prefaces the list with the note that just a hundred years ago it was extraordinarily difficult to avoid being classified as some kind of theist or deist and no works could be accomplished if one's true beliefs were known.
Who then were these people — especially the musicians?
Would you believe Ludwig van Beethoven, born 1770, died 1827? The great musician was reared a Catholic but quit the church and adopted Goethe's Pantheism. Pantheism, as you know, is the doctrine that equates god with the forces and laws of the universe. Although Ludwig van Beethoven composed a Catholic mass (Missa Solemnis) which an authority described as \perhaps the grandest piece of musical expression which art possesses,\ he remained a Pantheist to the end. It is piquant that the musical expert who thus appreciates his mass, Sir. G. Macfarrcn, describes him as \a freethinker\ — that is to say, an Atheist — (in the Imper. Dict. of Univ. Biog.) Beethoven's most authoritative biographers are clear about his views on religion. When he was dying he yielded to the pressure of Catholic friends and let a priest administer the sacraments, but it is admitted that when the priest left the room Beethoven said, in the Latin words of the ancient Roman theater, \Applaud, my friends, the comedy is over.\ During the years of his full inspiration he had little religious feeling. When Felix Moscheles once scribbled on a manuscript, \With God's help,\ Beethoven wrote, \Man, help thyself.\
Then let's look at Hector Berlioz, born 1803, died 1869, a French composer. He composed Catholic church music including the famous Te Deum and Mass of the Dead, and indeed he is claimed by the church as one of their own in the Catholic Encyclopaedia. Yet Berloiz often stated in his letters that he was an Atheist. In G. K. Boult's Life of Berlioz, (1903), on page 298 there is reproduced a letter written shortly before he died, in which he says, \I believe nothing.\
We move on to Alexandre Cesar Leopold Bizet, born 1838, died 1875 and generally known as Georges Bizet, the composer of Carmen, etc. His early death cut short a career of great promise. His letters, which were published after his death by L. Ganderax in 1908 are full of skepticism. In one letter, he says, \I have always read the ancient pagans with infinite pleasure while in Christian writers I find only system, egoism, intolerance, and a complete lack of artistic taste.\
These are really the great ones, for next is Johannes Brahms, born 1833, died 1897, the famous German composer. As he composed the superb German Requiem for Protestant churches, most folk imagine that he was a Christian but he was even less religious than Beethoven. He reveals in his letters to Hersogenberg (Letters of J. Brahms: the Hersogenberg Correspondence, English translation 1909) that he was a complete agnostic. The Four Serious Songs which he published the year before he died are described by one critic as his \supreme achievement in dignified utterance of noble thoughts.\ Yet the words to the first song, as a matter of fact, reject and almost ridicule the idea of personal immortality.
But then what about Claude Achille Debussy, born 1862, died 1918, the French composer? He entered the Paris Conservatoire at the age of eleven and by 1902 his L'apresmidi d'un faune and other compositions were known throughout the world, and he was acclaimed as \one of the greatest musicians of his generation\. He was one of the \Neo-pagans\ (by self-styling) of that brilliant period, and his funeral was purely secular.
And also included, of course, is Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, born 1756, died 1791. He began to compose at the age of five and conducted a Mass of his own composition at the age of twelve. In the following year the pope made him a Knight of the Golden Spur, and for ten years he was a concert master to the Archbishop of Salzbury. At this time he began to lose his Catholic faith and to get into trouble with the authorities of the church. He joined the Freemasons, who were under the sternest ban of the Church, and turned to opera. Although he wrote a good deal of church music and he is claimed in the Catholic Encyclopaedia as a Catholic, the two leading biographers of Mozart put it beyond question that he was a non-Christian. Wilder gives ample evidence and tells us that on his death bed he refused to ask for a priest and when his wife nevertheless sent for one, the priest was refused, and he was buried without a service in the common grave of the poor. His famous Requiem Mass was composed for Count Walsegg, who paid Mozart but then put his own name on the composition. Ulibichov, the second leading biographer, gives even further evidence that Wolfgang Mozart abandoned the Church.
Why do you suppose this history is suppressed? Why don't we all know that these persons were non-theists or A-theists?
Even Niccolo Paganini, born 1782, died 1840, the great Italian violinist and composer, is among the non-theists. Like so many other distinguished freethinkers he was very precocious, composed a sonata when he was eight years old and made his first public appearance at the age of eleven. He became the greatest violinist of his age. His chief biographer, Count Conestabili, who was orthodox, admits that Paganini practiced \religious indifferentism\, and states, sadly, that his hero neither received the last sacrament nor had any religious service at his funeral. He was well known as \an Atheist.\
Can it be that we own all of the great ones? For next is Franz Peter Schubert, born 1797, died 1828, the Austrian composer. He wrote two Masses and a large amount of other Catholic music, yet like Beethoven and Mozart, he was a skeptic. In his Dictionory of Music, Sir George Grove says that \of formal or dogmatic religion we can find no trace\ in his life. That's in Volume IV, page 634. He quotes Schubert saying of creeds and churches, \Not a word of it is true.\ Also, one can read Elly Ziese in Shubert's Tod. There it is noted that Catholic biographers say that the man who wrote the beautiful Ave Maria must have been a Catholic, although \he has no external connection with the Church.\ One might as well say that all the artists who painted beautiful Venuses must have believed in the goddess Venus. Perhaps the answer is that only the religious art form was accepted, or acceptable, at that time.
And, then of course comes Robert Schumann, born 1810, died 1856, the German composer. He tells us in his letters that he rejected Christianity in his early years and followed Goethe's pantheism. One great advantage of Goethe's system in this difficult period, when skepticism itself was in evolution, was that one could talk freely about god and not mean much. In any case Goethe naturally appealed to these artists, and both Schumann and Beethoven openly adhered to this doctrine.
What! We have Richard Strauss, too. Yes, the German composer, born 1864 and died 1949. He played the piano at the age of four and began to compose at the age of seven. He conducted the Bayreuth Festival in 1894 and was General Musical Director of Prussia. He was a close student of philosophy and expressed his own freethought convictions in the symphonic poem based upon Nietzsche's work, Also Sprach Zarathustra, which the clergy angrily denounced, and in Till Eulenspiegel's Lustige Streiche, which has been described as \one of the most brilliant dramatic scores ever penned.\
Just these men alone in our ranks should satisfy an Atheist, but there is also Peter Ilich Tchaikovsky, born 1840, died 1893, the famous Russian composer. He took up law but quit it for music and became the greatest of Russian composers with songs, cantatas, operas, and piano pieces. From his letters, edited by his brother, it appears that until late in life he was a theist but he seems in the end to have become an Atheist after reading Flaubert's letters. \I have, he said, \found some astonishing answers to my questions about god and religion in this book.\ (See Life and Letters, p. 688.) But I wonder what the brother edited out of the book when he recounts that Tchaikovsky was unconscious when his brother summoned a priest to smear him with sacrament, then, in death.
The last one here is Wilhelm Richard Wagner, born 1813, died 1883, the greatest of German dramatists and composers. All admit that he was an Atheist and radical for he took part in the revolution of 1848. Finally when he composed Parsifal in 1882, Nietsche charged him with lapsing into mysticism, and it is clear that he was in a romantic and mystic mood — but all the experts admit that he never returned to the Christian faith. Otto Hartwich says, \Wagner . . . had little taste for the other-worldly speculations of dogmatic theology and none at all in the Church's ethic — hence the bitterness of Nietzsche who thought it the worst feature of Christianity —.\ But the British musical critic who wrote on Wagner, Ernest Newman, reminds us that by the age of fifty all his greatest work had been done while he was an Atheist and his intellectual powers were at their greatest.
Well — I studied music for a long time —and was something of a pianist, continuing with piano all the years I was in college. I took courses in music history and music appreciation, and in music theory, and in the study of all of these greats as I had to learn to play their compositions. Imagine! All that time, it was never even whispered to me that they were Atheists. In all that time I thought I was the only Atheist in the world and I was trying to find anyone who had ever expressed anything about Atheism, and sometimes when I would play the piano for long hours, feeling alone with my ideas, I was playing the compositions of Athiests, of Beethoven, Berlioz, Bizet, Brahms, Debussy, Mozart, Paganini, Shubert, Schumann, Strauss, Tchaikovsky, and Wagner. I wasn't alone at all.
Somehow I feel that it is not quite fair.
And so I am doubly happy that I can bring this information to you. You are not alone. There are Atheists all around you — everywhere — and there have always been Atheists in history. There simply is a grand conspiracy of silence about them, and I intend that the silence shall be broken.
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Neven Jones, a lifelong foodie, was born in Cairo, Egypt, and grew up in New Jersey. A few years ago, she began changing her diet. She didn't enjoy eating meat like she once did and knew it was time for something different. She is currently on a high raw diet and chronicles her transition on her blog.


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