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INTERVIEW: Dr. Eckhard Heybrock, VDI
Photonics needs a dialogue with society
Dr. Eckhard Heybrock has been commissioned by the German Federal Ministry of Education and Research (BMBF) to work with the VDI Technology Center in Düsseldorf to investigate measures aimed at supporting innovation in the area of photonics.
1. Dr. Heybrock, about two years ago the Deutsche Physikalische Gesellschaft (DPG, German Physical Society) awarded you the "Medaille für Naturwissenschaftliche Publizistik" (Medal for Scientific Journalism) for your work in the "Fascination of Light" education initiative. What were the elements of this initiative?
Dr. Eckhard Heybrock:
Basically, "Fascination of Light" was a traveling exhibition from Germany's Federal Ministry of Education and Research (BMBF) that dealt with optical technologies, in which young people were introduced to the high-tech subject of light in a fascinating manner with exciting experiments that they could take part in.
The target group was the general public and the entire school system - primarily, the aims were to awaken interest for and draw attention to optical technologies. However, the special feature of this was that the exhibition was carried out together with many partners from the entire industry. They organized events and supplemented and supported the exhibition. Messe München was also involved with Fascination for Light several times. It was this level of cooperation that enabled us to visit more than 100 locations and reach more than half a million visitors between 2003 and 2009. Press coverage was also enormous, with several thousand newspaper articles and about 70 TV reports. At last, optical technologies had reached out to the public.
2. Apart from children and teenagers, were other age groups also addressed?
Dr. Eckhard Heybrock:
Fascination of Light was always more than "just" an exhibition. A separate didactic offering was developed for elementary school teachers, with Luka, the very special glowworm, acting as the intermediary to the children: Luka's experiments – the light workshop for elementary schools. The project entitled "The Innovation League" has been encouraging joint projects between schools, industry and science since 2008. And university prospectuses also provide an overview of the roughly 1,000 university courses in the field of optical technologies that are offered each year. Advanced training courses on light and laser can be found in the course database of the German Federal Employment Agency, where the educational objective optical technologies has also been set up.
Although the pure traveling exhibition has now been wound up, these initiatives continue to thrive throughout the education chain.
3. Will there be further, new efforts in terms of photonics education in the future?
Dr. Eckhard Heybrock:
Very much so. Research and innovation always need a dialogue with society and need the best trained people. It's always the people who make the difference. This applies especially in the photonics industry.
A medium-sized, research-intensive high-tech industry like photonics, with a high degree of pressure to be innovative and involving scientific-oriented production processes is very much affected by the impending shortage of skilled staff in Germany. More than 20% of employees in the photonics industry have an academic background. This is about two and a half times higher than the industrial average in Germany. By 2015, the photonics industry will need approximately 9,000 university graduates to replace and supplement existing employees (as of 2010). But photonics is competing for the best young talent with industries that are much more visible.
In other words, the photonics industry is trying hard to win over young people. Because of this, there is a high level of commitment in the competition to acquire the best minds – and the industry is already very active in acquiring young talent. I could list a whole range of activities here - from the "Light Alliance" initiative, to company contact trade shows, open days, science slam events, the roughly 600 joint photonics projects involving schools, science and the industry and many, many more.
But the industry is not committed deeply enough as a whole, it needs a common language. The full effect of the measures cannot unfold and the critical mass that is needed for visibility is not being achieved. Unfortunately, because of this, photonics remains an invisible field of technology for many young people.
This is precisely the starting point of the new, cross-industry initiative "Photonik Campus Deutschland [Photonics Campus Germany]". The photonics trade associations SPECTARIS, VDMA and ZVEI, Institutes of the Fraunhofer Society, the BMBF and, as described, the entire photonics industry are working together as partners to attract young talent. The initiative will be introduced to the public on April 23, 2012 at the Hannover trade fair.
4. In other words, the photonics industry as a whole wants to attract young people?
Dr. Eckhard Heybrock:
This is one of the main fields of work. With the combined actions of the partners it should be possible to aggregate and bundle the existing activities of the companies, institutes, and trade associations to attract young people. In addition, new activities are to be encouraged and the existing measures will be supplemented. On the whole, "Photonik Campus Deutschland" will offer information products throughout the education chain, involving schools (elementary, secondary education levels I and II, high school), universities and vocational training facilities, to address young people in a sustained manner. The measures will focus on high schools and universities.
The BMBF is also involved in the initiative with a large number of measures. These include especially the development of an Internet portal with broad-based social media components (www.photonik-campus.de) to present selected measures and to attract young people to the photonics industry. More online information and offerings are further focuses of the new initiative. An authentic presentation and networking of the industry on this jointly operated portal will give young people direct access to the photonics industry, to its members, and to its initiatives. The portal will also enable the target group to share their own views and experiences. It will always be possible for individual activities and contributions from the entire industry, such as photos and videos, reports and information about events, etc. to be attributed to the respective initiator. However, their effect will be strengthened considerably through the cooperation and deliveries from the entire industry - a win-win situation for everyone concerned, including the young people.
5. What exactly does "Photonik Campus Deutschland" offer?
Dr. Eckhard Heybrock:
"Photonik Campus Deutschland"
material and advanced training courses
for elementary school teachers,
partnerships between schools, companies, and institutes
high school and university students, also in neighboring European countries to study photonics in Germany, e.g. with
"Photonics campus life" videos
(video reports from students) and "Photonics talks" videos (video clips from training events and presentations),
lists the
study courses for photonics
in Germany clearly and provides information about these courses,
science and engineering students in the
Photonics Academy
- this is an annual competition for a 1-week practical experience for a "photonics career" in Germany,
gives impulses to
renew the job descriptions
in the photonics industry,
reports about opportunities
, "life" and careers in photonics, answers questions about career entry,
and, ultimately,
the information via the
Internet portal
, at trade fairs aimed at the target groups, school leaver fairs, and conferences throughout Germany.
I ask every company and every professorship for their support so that an offering such as this can be truly lively and authentic and be continuously expanded, updated and communicated. In particular, photos, photo documentation, videos, interviews, speeches, presentations, reports and announcements about events for young talent are very welcome for inclusion on the portal: email@example.com
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Re: How do you like your Pairings? | #81 | ||||||||||
Well, that's the biggest problem with Aveyond series, really. There's just very little to no interactions between the party members- unless you buy a house (which is optional). Anyway, in AP, Devin and Alicia did have one banter, but that was all. Other than that, nothing goes on between them- not even another playful bicker like Vance & Fayette from Three The Hard Way. There's also this fact that Alicia is an OPTIONAL party member- who, if you didn't complete a certain side quest, cannot be recruited at all because she is married to the Candar prince. The last time I finished the game, I didn't even use her at all because Jack and the shapeshifter were more useful party members. Talia and Devin, on the other hand, have the dynamic of the typical male-female lead of an RPG. The heroine destined to save the world and the childhood friend sworn to protect her. Their situation is really similar to Ean and Iya (canon pairing) from AV2. -------------------------------------------- To be honest, though, I rarely see an RPG-Maker game with good romance/interactions. The only exception is Romancing Walker- where attraction points is added when a girl is fighting in your party for an extended period of time, and at a certain level of point, you can unlock a special interaction scene with them.
Posted on: 2012/6/15 19:14
Re: How do you like your Pairings? | #82 | ||||||||||
Romancing Walker can be a fun romance game if you don't mind the butchered Engrish.
The problem with romance is that people will always link it to 'endings' (like VN types). Can they be together in the end? Can I marry them? TTHW has none of those typical + points + scenes thingy; the story develops itself naturally. But it's kinda a stretch to call it a romance though. The 'romance' leans more on comedy actually (and why can't boys and girls have a platonic relationship?) The Way is also a great game that romance is the driven force of the protagonist, but the story itself doesn't revolve at romance AT ALL.
Posted on: 2012/6/15 22:15
Re: How do you like your Pairings? | #83 | ||||||||||
I think we've beaten the "lack of interaction, woe!!" topic to death and into pulp. It's the same in AP, Av1 and AV3's. Most fans think the canon pairings, when given a choice, are derpfail. Dameon-Rhen had some sappy interactions. Edward-Stella had some cute interactions too. HOWEVER, the fan-preferred pairings have even MORE interaction, which makes them trump over the canon.
@Ivana: What's so wrong about VN-style romance endings? Anyways, I'd say Aldorlea's Book of Legends is another example of good use of branching event system. You have lord-knows-how-many potential party members, but you can't take them all. You'll have to dump someone to make room for a new member. And to get someone to join you, there's a set of requirements you have to fulfill that may or may not be obvious. Who is in the active party changes the way events play out. E.g: there is a hole in the ground. If you have a dog, dog will dig up the hole and find something awesome. If not, your character will simply say "Look, there is a hole, derp." If you want to date girl A, you have to earn x attraction points by making the right choices when given the option. And to get those choices to show up, you have to meet another set of conditions or else you won't even see the event. It's so complicated that it's making my eyes spin. And yet, THAT is how I want branching events to work out. That game proves that you can too make complex games with RPG Maker. This doesn't even need to be romance-related. The branching path affects what items you get and how the story plays out. The romance matter is, as stated above, filling up attraction points. If you don't fill up the attraction points the people will just part ways as friends. And then you don't even know which choice is romance-related or not. There's some that are just quest-related, or even pointless choice that only affect what someone says and nothing else. And that is GOOD.
Posted on: 2012/6/15 23:30
Re: How do you like your Pairings? | #84 | ||||||||||
Because RPGs focuses more on 'saving the world' while VNs usually are about getting yourself a gf/bf. Are you seriously telling me to woo someone when there's a big baddie out there? Love is a huge distraction, so the characters shouldn't be flirting around or 'marry' in that matter. And LOL Book of Legends' got NOTHING on TTHW when it comes to branching haha. The branches on TTHW is insanely huge that you'll probably have to open the game itself if you really want to know the secrets.
Posted on: 2012/6/16 22:10
Re: How do you like your Pairings? | #85 | ||||||||||
VNs aren't usually about getting a gf/bf. But what a VN does specialize in which RPGs cannot is that it has plenty of text available to set up a plot, and thus dramatic stories can occur, while for RPGs, you can't really do that without risking other people calling your game wordy and boring.
Posted on: 2012/6/16 22:17
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Re: How do you like your Pairings? | #86 | ||||||||||
@Ivana: Oh wow, have you had the misfortune of ONLY encountering otome games and galge? Yes, otome and galge are also visual novels, but visual novels who focus on romance pretty much has their own genre. There are visual novels that isn't about romance, like Kansei and Jisei.
Also, some nicely-done romance VNs are actually more like "adventure/action story that happens to contain romance". Like those action movies that at some point end up with the hero and heroine hook up. There's an issue going on, they solve issue, and romance happens without them ditching the issue in favour of the romance. I haven't tried TTHW (and probably never will) so I can't judge, but the way you describe it sounds like the two games are about on par with each other. Don't start having fan-myopia just because TTHW happened to impress you so much Quote: it has plenty of text available to set up a plot, and thus dramatic stories can occur, while for RPGs, you can't really do that without risking other people calling your game wordy and boring. It IS called visual novel after all.
Posted on: 2012/6/17 1:01
Re: How do you like your Pairings? | #87 | ||||||||||
Nope, they aren't usually but they are mostly. @D_A Puh-lease. If the 23353463% of dating VNs out there doesn't tell you something, then I don't know what. The VNs that aren't about dating probably can be counted in both hands. Yeah there are some games that you can still hook up but not ditch the main quest, but how realistic is that? Stop by and marrying (like srsly?) when Ahriman's out there? What, is he gonna wait for you or something? Lol and what fan-myopia? Fan-myopia happens only for crappy things. That chick who posted the game here in AM? She only signed up in here because she wanted to share the game with us. And many people have stated it is better than any commercial games out there *cough*aveyond*cough*(before I've played it). If you are going to judge a book by it's cover without even trying it at least and miss a classic because of that, then sure, go ahead. Edited to remove profanity. ~Mopiece
Posted on: 2012/6/17 1:30
Re: How do you like your Pairings? | #88 | ||||||||||
Fan-myopia happens to include "not wanting to admit that any other work is just as good or better than the particular work they're fans of". Your insistence that BOL is definitely lesser than TTHW still counts as fan-myopia
Quote: That chick who posted the game here in AM? She only signed up in here because she wanted to share the game with us. The creator made an account only to advertise the game in Amaranthia. Okay. And this matters why? Quote: If you are going to judge a book by it's cover without even trying it at least and miss a classic because of that, then sure, go ahead. Who's the judgemental person now? I never said why I "probably never would" try TTHW ever. See, you can't find out just how many branches ARE there without playing it over many times to see how your choices affect your gameplay. If you were indeed right about it being way more complex than Book of Legends, then I might as well not even begin to try it. I don't have the time for that. Time issue =/= "judge book by cover". I mean, I ditched Book of Legends before the trial ran out and I only knew how crazy the branching went because I knew people who could crack it open (Yay for having computer geek friends). Quote: Yeah there are some games that you can still hook up but not ditch the main quest, but how realistic is that? Oi, read the post properly. I was talking about visual novels where the timeline is actually clear, unlike Aveyond where there's no such thing as day and night and you have no idea how much time has passed In the VNs I was talking about, they don't sit around making out while problem is still out there. The characters fall in love during the progression of the story, but only after big bad is KO'd do they go out on dates/get married/whatever. ----------------------------------------------- I have more to say that is not just rebuttal to previous posts, but my mind is incoherent right now. Will return when I'm less of a rambling mess.
Posted on: 2012/6/17 4:02
Re: How do you like your Pairings? | #89 | ||||||||||
Do you see people making an account just to share Aveyond, or, any other games on other websites? No. If someone's that dedicated to a game that much, it must have mean something at least. (One would still wonder how the heck Laxius Power's got band of worshipers.)
Ok, shoulda mention you didn't have time. I must ask, how did you find BoL? Is the story mediocre or good? If you've stopped playing just because you don't want to play a gazillion hours for the story and prefer to jump straight at the events, that'll take out the fun factor of gaming. Oops, didn't see the 'solve issue first then hook up after' line
Posted on: 2012/6/17 5:00
Re: How do you like your Pairings? | #90 | ||||||||||
Eh, it's not like I want to purposely jump at the events. If I know there's going to be a bajillion branching paths, then I'd rather not play unless there's something I'm particularly interested in. Then I'll go find a walkthrough and make sure I get whatever I wanted. I'm someone who won't rest until I find all the paths and I'd rather not do that.
Do you mean how I stumbled across Book of Legends or how good do I find the story to be? For the first one, I subscribe to Amaranth and Aldorlea's newsletters, so I got notification about the game. About the story... well, it's very reminiscent of Drunken Paladin. Guy sets off to do something, then at some point finds that he's got himself tangled in something bigger than what he signed up for. Except it's far more crazy-complicated. DP is pretty much linear. BoL... I haven't gotten far enough to see how the choices affect what goes on in the story. I know a lot of hidden events involve choosing party members wisely and you can't get/access certain things without having a certain someone with you and/or have done a certain thing correctly. Contains crude humour and somewhat lame jokes because the main hero-guy is a big jerk. It feels almost like Indy played Drunken Paladin, loved the concept so much but thought it could be made better, didn't feel like straight-out remaking the game and set out to make a similar game himself with different characters and plot. I was most iffy with the art because everything was taken straight out of RMVX's samurai RTP with the exception of one or two illustrations. Geh. Now that I think of it, BoL is more like the adventure/romance VN. Plot happens, but it's ultimately a galge game (you play a guy chasing girls). If there were any difference in how you end the story at all, it's minor (or so I gathered from the talk in the forums). You'll have to explain to me how the branching paths in TTHW went. --------------------------------------------- Annnnnd this post has spiralled into a "branching paths" discussion. Back on pairings. For an RPG, well, developers have to be willing to create many cutscene/conversation events so that the romance can happen in a natural way. And setting up events to "fake" time passing if implementing an actual timer is not possible. For other stuff... it depends. So long as the progression is natural, I'm good. On that note, I notice that most VNs, especially the Japanese one, use a path system. Which I don't particularly like. I like point system more, like what Hanako Games' stuff do. With path system, if you landed yourself in path X, you can't go away from that particular storyline. The only difference you'd make is whether you get a good pr bad end. With points, there's so many possibilities of what could happen to the story.
Posted on: 2012/6/17 6:47
Re: How do you like your Pairings? | #91 | ||||||||||
I'm kinda the same as you about not resting until finding all the secrets, but my first play always is gonna be without walkthroughs (unless I'm stuck).
I mean the latter one. A commercial game that has crude humor? That's... interesting. I might check it out if I'm done with tests. (Interesting fact, TTHW's protagonist is a BIG jerk and anti-hero ) Iunno, probably that your path will be different but the ending is always the same (except some few minor scenes). --- Why is it not possible? I just wish some gamemakers would realize that it's perfectly fine to make the game wordy just to deliver the romance correctly in RPGs. Also it might be good for a change for once.
Posted on: 2012/6/17 7:26
Re: How do you like your Pairings? | #92 | ||||||||||
Huh? Was there even a branching events in TTHW? Been a while since I last played, and then I only finished half-way before I changed my laptop and did not bother to transfer my old files, but replayed the game several times (up until the point in which I abandoned it) and don't remember encountering branch events.
Speaking of which, the romance attraction points in Aveyond really needs improvements. The events usually goes like: guy give girl gifts -> girl says "thank you" -> girl is happy -> ATTRACTION! Then it becomes somewhat meaningless when you realize most of the other interactions (outside those so-called attraction point events- which we don't much either, by the way) between the characters is not affected by how much attraction points you have between the characters.
Posted on: 2012/6/17 14:58
Re: How do you like your Pairings? | #93 | ||||||||||
Maybe in a future game we could have the girl buy the guy stuff for attraction points instead.
Posted on: 2012/6/17 15:05
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Re: How do you like your Pairings? | #94 | ||||||||||
@Ivana: I don't know how timers are implemented in-game, so there may or may not be issues that prevent timers from being implemented. I mean, Aveyond haven't been using timers forever. Either it's too much of a hassle or it'll make the game lag, I have no idea. And IF it's somehow not possible, then developers need to be creative!
@Esme: How is THAT any better? It's just switching the giver-receiver roles between the genders
Posted on: 2012/6/17 17:05
Re: How do you like your Pairings? | #95 | ||||||||||
What's the deal on timers? Aveyond uses them a lot for different things, but not the default timer - we created our own timer system. Maybe you're talking about something other than general timers, as our uses have nothing to do with romantic interactions.
Posted on: 2012/6/17 17:32
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Re: How do you like your Pairings? | #96 | ||||||||||
@ DA, well it DOES give variety. All the attraction points in the AV series so far have involved the boy charming the girl - why can't the girl give the boy some gifts for once?
Posted on: 2012/6/17 18:15
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Re: How do you like your Pairings? | #97 | ||||||||||
Because last time the female characters went after the male ones, one guy got a love potion dumped on his head and the other got his soul stolen. ;P
Posted on: 2012/6/17 18:16
Re: How do you like your Pairings? | #98 | ||||||||||
And didn't everyone love that? It sure made for some good entertainment!
Posted on: 2012/6/17 18:34
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Re: How do you like your Pairings? | #99 | ||||||||||
Yes, everyone did! I adored both of those couples.
~ I've noticed I have loved every side character pairing in Aveyond, but I'm not pleased with the main characters. Meaning I don't like Rhen/Dameon or Rhen/Lars, but I adore Elini/John and Te'ijal/Galahad. Or Ean/Iya is meh to me, but I loved Emma/Rye and Ava/Gavin... So maybe have an option again where the main character doesn't end up with someone/make the side characters pairable? That was always nice. (I didn't mind the lack of side characters being paired in Av3 because Te'ijal and Galahad returned as leads, but I was disappointed that Mel and Edward ended up with someone no matter what.)
Posted on: 2012/6/17 19:41
Re: How do you like your Pairings? | #100 | ||||||||||
@Elemental: Well, to be fair, those "side pairings" are more interactive than the main ones, so they actually make more sense.
@Esme: I'd rather see the interactions between the main pairing fixed first than playing around with trial-and-error variations I may not like.
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