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I always had to laugh when I heard Jimmy Page's line about Tull's live album "Busting Out". He said "it should be called Bore 'em at the Forum"
All circa 1969/70 at the L.A.Forum: Jimi Ike & Tina Otis Redding with either The Stones or Tina, I forget. Janis & Big Brother in a small club in Hollywood probably 1968. Killer!
You know, we may have met at one of those Forum gigs
Actually, Rory should be number one on the list. I'm just a sucker for a great front man. Jim Dandy, my son talked to him after a gig, and now he's a pro! Gives credit to the Dandy man. And nobody knows the band LSD, but Stanley, the front man, who looked like Buddy Holly just crawled out of his grave! Great singer, writer, keyboardist, he just did it all! And he reeked!! He was filthy dirty, he slapped me on the shoulder, and the stench is STILL on my jacket! This is 2012, the concert was in 1995!
Dave, Did you see TYA in 1970? If so I was the hippie chick in row 3 swooning over Alvin and continually falling into the lap of the guy sitting next to me. I was so ripped I don't remember anything else about that night.
Robin, I think Otis Redding died in 1967 Peace, DLM
I saw Black Oak Arkansas at a "love-in", may have been Griffith Park. Those were such fun times. Again-- too ripped to remember anything except that they were very good.
Then I saw him in 67 -- **** did I dream it? He sang "try a little tenderness" and "I've been loving you too long." But wait -- I was not allowed to go out at night in 67. Dale, I think one of my best memories from back in the day is a figment of my imagination. I am freaking out! I wonder what other memories are only hallucinations of my substance fried brain???
Ahh, I think I was being crushed at the front. Hard to breathe, but I didn't care! And I didn't take advantage of a ripped hippie chick that night, so I didn't see ya!
He was touring when his plane went down, so you may have seen him right before his demise. So don't freak out, you probably saw him in '67.
Ah Dave, he didn't take advantage , he was very nice about my falling on him. He was only a little reluctant to let me up. :)
I won't freak but I do suspect my memories are faulty because I was so sure I saw him with either the Stones in '69 or Tina around that time. What a shocking development this turned out to be. DLM has single-handedly killed off one of my happiest memories. LOL.
He died on tour in Dec. 1967. The Stones had a mega U.S. Tour in 67. You might have seen him then . I remember it very well, as I came to Long Beach, Ca. In June, '67. Sometime either before or after my arrival, the Stones played So. Cal. Hope this helps your freak out!
Whew. I'm beat from being out running around all day on short sleep. Still trying to decide which hippie-era concerts other than Alvin were my faves. He WAS my fave! In the meantime, here are a few more recent performances: 1. Paul McCartney, Wells Fargo Arena, Des Moines, Iowa, October 2007. 2. Robert Plant, Veterans Memorial Auditorium, Des Moines, Iowa, "Manic Nirvana" tour, mid-'90s. 3. Steve Vai and Billy Sheehan (with the DLR Band, but forget DLR, if at all possible! I went to see them!), Cedar Rapids, Iowa, late '80s.
Thanks Dave, it does help. I remember that my friend and I were in the very last row at the Stones concert. since you know the forum, you know we had to have binoculars to see anything. My computer is packed away and I am using the one-finger typing ordeal on my Iphone to write this. So, I am just going to hope Otis and the Stones played together at the Forum in '67, but I will check it out when I return. I need to stop talking about seeing Otis, if I never saw him. .
Wow, I'd forgotten that's how Otis died. Such a shame. I loved his songs. How many musicians and sports figures have died in plane crashes? Too many, all told.
I would love to have seen Janis and Jimi live, not to mention the Doors, and never did. All my friends here went to a Janis gig in Des Moines the summer of '69, but I was out of town. Hers was a flame that blazed so incredibly brightly before it died. I still miss her.
Steppenwolf 1969 Carousel Theater The Faces 1969 or 1970 Boston Common ELP, Pictures at an Exhibition Tour..
1.Johnny Winter with Rick Derringer 2.The Blasters 3.Stevie Ray -Rotterdam very stoned but incredible fast
I can't narrow it to three, but these spring to mind in a virtual tie and no particular order: Janis Joplin w/ Full Tilt Boogie - what a shame she died, because she finally had a band that could make the stage BURN like she could. Scr*w Cosmic Blues and Big Brother. Lynyrd Skynyrd - WITH Ronnie Van Zant and Steve Gaines - the best version of one of my favorite southern bands The Allman Brothers - WITH Duane - my other favorite southern band The Who - with a HEALTHY Keith Moon B.B. King - mid 70s at a small, smokey, sweltering club in Reno, NV. The crowd was overwhelmingly black and were cool with an underaged white kid hanging out drinking, flirting with older women, and listening to Lucille testify. B.B. was in his prime with one hot mofo of a band backing him. A true blues legend in the type of environment all great blues should be heard in. The list may change hourly as I think about it. So many great shows - such a bad memory!
Hi Dave! Iggy Pop in Boston The Who Quadraphenia Tour Madison Square Garden Neil Young/Crazy Horse Fillmore West Neil's 40th B Day Rory Gallagher Boston ****..that's four
Hey Don, all those shows sound great but as a kid in a the small club seeing BB that's gotta be tops.
Yeah, it was pretty heady stuff - totally out of my white middle-class suburban environment. I stumbled across the gig totally by accident, went into the club in the afternoon, and told the bartender I wanted to see B.B. King. He was pretty amused and had some customers look out for the white boy and keep me out of (too much) trouble.
Wishbone Ash 1973 London Alexandra Palace. Maggie Bell Glasgow 2009 Jethro Tull Edinburgh around 1972
I saw Wishbone Ash, I think also in 1973, at the Des Moines Ice Arena opening for Taj Mahal, the act I'd really gone to see. The entire show was a catastrophe from start to finish. WA launched into the same opening song three times in a row, and at the same place each time, their power blew. Then Taj came out in African garb and proceeded to play a quiet opening number on a little thumb harp, which caused some rude and restless audience members to start calling out "Play the blues!" Admittedly I myself was eager to hear him play stuff like "Stagger Lee" and "Candy Man", but kept silent out of respect for artistic prerogative. There was plenty of time for the other songs later-- or so I thought. Taj took offense at the noisy blues-inciters, cut the African harp number short, and stalked off the stage, never to return. That was all, folks! Later that night I got reeeally sick on something I'd eaten at some point from the concessions stand while waiting for some actual music to start happening, and was violently ill well into the next day. Definitely NOT my fave concert!!
P.S. Anybody else have any concert horror stories?
Yes, Mike Oldfield at Edinburgh Castle playing Tubular Bells in it's entirety. it may be clever witting and all that but I was bored out my skin. just to make matters worse the warm up act,a lady from Canada I think was dreadful and was booed off the stage.
Go Sox!,,
I would pick Janis with Full Tilt Boogie as one of my favorites too, Don....but oddly enough one of the worst shows I ever saw was the Allmans in 1969 or 1970. Van Morrison opened and never even managed to get the audience's attention; Delaney & Bonnie came up next and were on fire, except for when Delaney got pis.sed at some people calling out "Clapton" and stopped playing to yell at them, and then the Allmans...who I loved then and love now - were so dam*ed tedious I actually fell asleep!
Yikes, Graeme! Even READING the title "Tubular Bells" makes me paranoid I'll get the melody stuck in my head for the next seven lifetimes!! Eek! Anything but that! Quick, Laur, put on some Alvin! ;-) Hmmm...the lady from Canada CAN'T have been Joni Mitchell... I can't imagine her getting booed off any stage, unless it was at the Annual Convention for the Tone-Deaf, Clueless, & Aesthetically-Challenged! Right, Dale? ;-) (EDIT: Just teasing you for your recent criticism in another thread of Joni's guitar-playing, by implying you'd agree with me here that she'd never get booed off the stage... NOT implying you'd belong at such a fanciful convention!!) I wonder who it was? What style of music was it?
I loved the Allmans WITH Duane too, Toni and Don. Their style was distinctive and unique. I used to have the LP with "Whipping Post" et al (their first?) but somehow someone else ended up with it along the way. Wanna get it on CD now I'm reminded of it. As for Co-Queen Janis (HER ruling partner was Co-Queen Joni, in my view, albeit admittedly an odd couple!), I didn't mind Big Brother & the Holding Co. . Their guitarwork was scarcely the world's greatest, but to me it was fun for being (on record, at least) more or less the epitome of a certain generic hippie guitar stereotype, ha. Ah, those were the days! I feel young again just thinking about them and hearing the music in my head. There just isn't the wide and fabulous array of superior talent and even brilliance in the current crop of musicians on today's scene. So much jaded, narcissistic, self-impressed, mediocre, unmelodic, overblown, heartless, commercialized, mechanical-sounding crap, with a handful of exceptions. One of them as I see and hear it is Jack White (born Gillis, as you Scots over there may be aware). He has so much raw and electric energy, he just goes ballistic and stratospheric when he rocks out. Watch the video online of his Grammy Awards show performance with his ex Meg of "Seven Nation Army" from several years ago. Talk about on fire! Check out his new CD *Blunderbuss*, especially the cut "Sixteen Saltines", which he performed on SNL several weeks ago. Can you tell I'm a fan, gang? ;-) I could fill all three slots of the non-Alvin concert construct with him, actually, come to think of it!! But only the non-Alvin portion. In other words, no one touches the Maestro, even now. Especially now.
Gotta admit I'd add Grace Slick to the "queen" list Laurie. And now that I think of it, one of the best shows I ever saw was the Airplane at the Fillmore East a week or so after the Kent State murders. The lady was furious and the band's rendition of "Revolution" that night was almost a real call to arms! I'd almost forgotten your affinity for Jack White! Glad to hear it's still going strong...and that he hasn't surpassed Alvin!
Yeah, Gracie does belong on the Hippie Rocker Queen list, Toni, you're right. What a peerless set of lungs-- and what a gorgeous pure icy tone! Yowee! And yeah, as to my "affinity" for the Jackmeister, let's just say it's going strong AGAIN. Admittedly it got sidetracked in other directions for awhile. Eh bien, c'est la guerre, et aussi c'est la vie! ;-)
Nuh-uh. Go Yankees!! And they'd BETTER get going, dagnabbit!!
Yeah, what was up with all that, anyway?? Guess I don't have that Tull album, but I can't imagine it as boring!? Ian Anderson wasn't exactly an insipid performer, and Martin Barre was never any slouch on the guitar!
Why was the Stones gig a nightmare, Jeremy? That wasn't the one when people got stomped to death, was it? Wasn't that at Altamont? It's all a blur...
No mention of Santana...
Ah, OK, I get it. Sound problems at large venues are the worst. Too bad. Did you get to see the Stones another time or times in (a) better setting(s)?
Hey , Jeremy. I recall way back in the day some of my friends saying Santana was disappointing live, but I don't remember why.
I like Jack White too, Laurie. Have you seen " It Might Get Loud" ? It features JW,The Edge and Jimmy Page. I t has been criticized but I liked it. The part that featured JW was pretty cool.
I haven't seen that yet, Brian, but I was just recently thinking about it, so will catch it ASAP. Looking forward to it!
Dave, May I submit an entirely new list given that one of my choices is very likely a false memory? I remember that I loved the Jimi , Janis, and Tina concerts but honestly I don't remember the concerts themselves. So, although my list will probably make some people laugh and some people cringe, the following shows gave me great pleasure. These were all about 15 years ago: Sepultura Ozzie Pantera
Pardon my addressing you directly again, Robin, but I'm a bit curious about something, and I'm just no good at pretending somebody's not in the same room, so to speak. I must admit, I was surprised by your rock concert list of Ozzy, etc. from 15 years ago. When you joined the board awhile back, you said you had quit listening to rock & roll over 40 years ago when you discovered classical, and had only recently gotten back into Alvin's music as the exception. Am I mistaking something? Hey, it's fine with me however much rock music you listen to when, and by whom, but what you wrote originally seems at odds with your latest. I admit, I'm the sort of person who likes to clear up any discrepancies and misunderstandings, and I'm still hoping we can move past our recent upset. Just wondering, if you care to clarify!
Aside from TYA in 1970? A total void, but here are a couple that came close to that magic night: Best gigs: 1) Tina Turner, the "What's Love" tour 1994 - Gothenburg, Sweden. Fantastic, tight backing band, perfect sound and Tina almost blew the roof off the building with hew razor-sharp voice. 2) Dire Straits, 1992 - Gentofte Stadium, Copenhagen, Denmark. Sold out, poring rain, everyone was happily dancing and singing along anyway and in return the band gave us 3 hours of pure music magic. Love was in the air that night - love between a group of great, hardworking musicians and their fans. Worst gig, ever: Uriah Heep, around -73 or -74. The band played and sang out of key, and sometimes even seemed to to play different tunes. Not their most sober performance, to put it mildly - the singer almost fell off the stage a couple of times. Think they were booed off stage after 3-4 songs, which was 3-4 songs too many..
OH, YOU POOR, POOR, GIRL... . Ozzie? Nelson? Or Ozzy Osboune?
If I had to see Grammy winning HEAVY METAL Jethro Tull, and their pompous 3 ft. Tall loudmouth drunk frontman, Ian Anderson, Almost get clocked in his flute hole by Rory's bassist for talking about "The Troubles" in Ireland I was gonna be next! I was going to hit Martin Barre!
Ahhhhhhh! Jethro Tull...Music to count your anti-depressant pills by. Can ya tell,I don't like 'em so much? My band, some locals, & Rory actually opened for these pious p£icks! Not much of a crowd, so after 3 or so shows, Tull & Rory switched spots, so there would be 10-15 thousand instead of 3-4 thousand! Tull owned the P.A., and gave us about a third, and Rory about half! Not nice guys!!
Ozzie Osbourne. To make matters worse, Dave, I also loved Megadeth, Slayer, and Metallica. Another incredible live band was the mariachi group behind Pepi Aguilar. Someone did some amazing R&R / Blues style guitar solos in a couple of his songs and tore the roof off the place. Don't feel too sorry for me though because my first love is opera and my son is an opera singer so I get live performances from my very favorite artist.


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7 Skin Care "Rules" You Need to Break
Think your routine is working for you? Wait until you see these sneaky ways your skin care habits are causing wrinkles, zits, and more
October 11, 2011 | by Sarah Carrillo | 78 COMMENTS
Spunt and O'Connor point out that these ingredients are harsh, irritating, and drying for almost everyone. So while they may kill bacteria and eventually get rid of your zit, they can also leave you with red, flaky skin that's practically impossible to cover with concealer. A better solution? "Try gentler products like willow bark and clay to calm inflammation and draw out impurities," Spunt says. "Gentler products can still fight pimples, and do so without drying your skin and making it look worse during the process."
SEE NEXT PAGE: Rule No. 6: You need a separate product for your eye area
Thanks for the info. Lots of great tips; lots of things I didn't know at all.
by sarah_kim Friday, March 29, 2013 at 10:09AM Report as inappropriate
Oops. I've done many of these. It's good to see which rules were made to be broken
by Chica181 Friday, March 15, 2013 at 07:07PM Report as inappropriate
Lots of great tips! I wonder why my dermatologist never recommended using coconut or lavender oil on my super-dry skin? I'll have to look into it!
by LaBoheme Thursday, March 7, 2013 at 09:30PM Report as inappropriate
Excellent tips. If you have very puffy eyes, a heavy cream will exacerbate the problem. Otherwise, I've been "freed" by learning that I can use the same moisturizer on my eyes as on my face. These are great tips!
by GigiSD Tuesday, March 5, 2013 at 08:20AM Report as inappropriate
In my case since I have hyperpigmentation, I exfoliate daily with Murad AHA/BHA cleanser, which is very gentle enough and 2 or 3 times a week I use philosophy's Microdelivery Peel. It's a vitamin C peel and it's excellent! These products allow whatever is used to treat the hyperpigmentation to sink better into the skin and work to get better results.
by IoSonoBella Tuesday, February 5, 2013 at 10:25PM Report as inappropriate
Good info! I'm guilty of quite a few of these...
by thequietnoise Wednesday, January 30, 2013 at 08:47PM Report as inappropriate
This article answered EVERYTHING I've been wondering for years! Thank You!
by sweetKARAcakes Wednesday, January 16, 2013 at 05:10PM Report as inappropriate
Gotta wash off that makeup!
by LittleBunny Saturday, January 5, 2013 at 08:43PM Report as inappropriate
I still need the extra moisture from my eye cream especially that I use a concealer.
by tiffany_gallehugh Wednesday, January 2, 2013 at 06:29AM Report as inappropriate
I love exfoliating... with apricot scrub... every day. Oops.
by Bon_Bon Wednesday, December 19, 2012 at 07:07PM Report as inappropriate
People with oily skin should always keep in mind, your skin needs certain oils and moisture regardless or your skin will become irritated. Irritated skin just leads to more problems...inflamed acne, bumpy skin due to little irritation rashes. Trust me...I've learned the hard way!
by MizzPink Tuesday, December 18, 2012 at 07:42AM Report as inappropriate
i break most of these rules aha
by aishak55 Saturday, December 15, 2012 at 02:36PM Report as inappropriate
I can't even imagine exfoliating once a day...
by GingerDrink Saturday, December 15, 2012 at 10:21AM Report as inappropriate
I am so glad to learn I don't need to wash my face twice a day! I like to use a makeup remover cloth every night and wash my face in the am during my shower. It's less work!
by Lamexicana1 Thursday, November 29, 2012 at 01:55PM Report as inappropriate
I have to wash 2x a day because I use heavy creams at night so I have to wash them off in the morning before I put my makeup on. In the evening I have to wash off the makeup. So it's definitely a twice a day wash routine.
by EricaF123 Sunday, November 25, 2012 at 11:01AM Report as inappropriate
I might have learned my facial cleansing and care form my mother but she did know. don't use soap only cold cream, and my complexion inspired many cosmetologists to use me for an example of their presentation of a facial. use witch hazel for toning if necessary..and rinse with h2o. useing soap dries my skin. btw..Georgette Clinger said the same thing, though you younger girls don't remember her or her salon.
by Karine Sunday, November 25, 2012 at 01:58AM Report as inappropriate
I don't have to wash my face twice a day. Awesome.
by BlackFleur145 Thursday, November 22, 2012 at 08:03PM Report as inappropriate
I used Roc and it did nothing. I suggest Avene.
by lilas Tuesday, November 13, 2012 at 06:52PM Report as inappropriate
Got some great advise today!
by Only1KimmieD Monday, November 5, 2012 at 09:47AM Report as inappropriate
It's so true, so many people think benzoyl peroxide or salicylic acid is a must for zits but it just is not! I'm glad I have some back up on this!!
by CinnaBlaze Friday, October 19, 2012 at 11:41PM Report as inappropriate
As an esthatician, I agree and disagree with this aricle. Washing your face does strip your face of its natural protection from the elements but thats what lotion and sunscreen are for! Your skin is constantly shedding dead skin that needs to be removed to promote healthy skin, the oilier your skin the more exfoliation you need. Also, it is rare nowadays to find an area that is not poluted in some way or another. Think about it like this, you need to wear sunscreen everyday but applying product onto not clean, or exfoliated skin is actually pushing impurities into your pores. This can cause ache and other skin issues. So, with that said I reccomend using the right products for your skin type, twice a day. Wash, tone and moisturize everyday, exfoliate once a week at least (oily skin more often). See an estatician if you are unsure of what you need to be doing. We are more than happy to do a skin analysis and find the right path to great skin for you!
by katlodato Thursday, October 4, 2012 at 07:02AM Report as inappropriate
Very good tips. I have been doing things wrong.
by CaroleVonAllten Friday, August 17, 2012 at 11:35AM Report as inappropriate
Since I have oily skin I do need to wash 2x a day. I exfoliate with sugar and MK microdermabrasion. I Combine the sugar with coconut oil on my face and body. Sometimes I just rub the oil on dry spots. I do think that the older you get that a specific I cream is important. This area is dryer than the rest of the face.
by asiagirl4ever Tuesday, July 17, 2012 at 07:37PM Report as inappropriate
i don't know about that retinol tip. i once accidentally used my mom's retinol wipes and my face felt like it was burning and felt super tight. but my dermatologist gave me retin-a to use for my acne,and that helps a lot
by ForeverBrunette Monday, July 9, 2012 at 11:48AM Report as inappropriate
Very informative article! I have oily skin and usually exfoliate twice a week, looks like I will have to cut it down.
by jenniferLLL Thursday, July 5, 2012 at 05:47PM Report as inappropriate
im glad about this article. now i know what to do
by selle_lou Wednesday, June 27, 2012 at 10:28PM Report as inappropriate
I failed to mention this in my last review, but salicylic acid is derived from willow bark.
by Dwhitneee Tuesday, May 22, 2012 at 11:19AM Report as inappropriate
I'm so glad you mentioned apricot and walnuts scrubs causing lesions in the skin. But the amount of exfoliation needed is mostly determined by the skin type. The type of exfoliation you use, (chemical or manual) will vary according to age, skin type and skin concern also.
by Dwhitneee Tuesday, May 22, 2012 at 11:12AM Report as inappropriate
I'm off to try that Roc Retinol!
by alictasia Friday, May 18, 2012 at 07:57PM Report as inappropriate
Very good article. One of the better ones I have read on this site.
by robyne00 Thursday, May 10, 2012 at 07:54AM Report as inappropriate
Okay one article says you must must exfoliate this one says not to, mixing up the tips?
by Only1KimmieD Wednesday, May 9, 2012 at 12:25PM Report as inappropriate
Great advice, I had no idea about the majority of these tips. I use benzol peroxide allot, and find that it really dries out my skin.
by lisiana_de_bem_justino Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 08:32PM Report as inappropriate
really nice advice, especially about salicylic acid....ive tried washing my face twice a day and my skin got worse...so im sticking wih twice a day
by olkrav319 Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at 03:41PM Report as inappropriate
REALLY informative article here. I want to mention that for people who use harsh products like Benzyl Peroxide that it is OK to use them but SPOT TREAT. No need to cover your whole face in Peroxide, just dab some on your problem spots.
by pynkNymphette Saturday, April 14, 2012 at 12:18AM Report as inappropriate
Pretty good article, but I take issue with a couple of the points made. I exfoliate one to two times per week depending on the season and how my skin is feeling. I really let my skin tell me when I need to exfoliate. Plus, I prefer to use an apricot and walnut scrub over harsh chemicals. If you are gentle and don't scrub like you are washing a car, then it really isn't harmful. Use some common sense... I agree about washing the face twice a day. I usually wash before bed and rinse with warm then cool water in the morning. That way face wash only actually comes in contact with my skin once time per day. I skip the soap all together if I don't wear makeup. Good to know about retinol. I thought I was too young to need a product like that (I'm 24). Overall, pretty good article.
by CCochran Saturday, April 7, 2012 at 06:09AM Report as inappropriate
I have realized washing my face twice a day works best for me, but not for everybody.
by beautybody Thursday, April 5, 2012 at 10:25AM Report as inappropriate
I think the point to take away from any of these "rules to break" articles is that every person is different so rather than following rules, we should all take our own needs into account. What works for someone else won't necessarily work for me, so why should I follow their rules?? There are also some good tips in here, though, like about not needing a separate product for eyes.
by tallredamanda Thursday, March 22, 2012 at 10:50AM Report as inappropriate
I like this article but i disagree with a few things. Exfoliating once every 2 weeks? no way. I can understand not exfoliating everyday but every two weeks is just not enough. You would be better off just switching to a more gentle exfoliant and using it everyday. I use avedas botanical kinetics chemical exfoliant and it's perfect for everyday use. Also, i disagree that you don't need specific things for the eye area. The sebaceous glands in your orbital bone region stop producing oil around the age of 18. You need a thicker cream to penetrate that skin. An eye cream should never feel like a moisturizer, it should be much thicker.
by breereinke Saturday, March 10, 2012 at 10:19AM Report as inappropriate
I am glad to see the reinforcement of not washing your face twice a day to using oil on acne prone skin. A new one for me was the not having to use eye creams. I can't wait to try that!
by powerwoman033 Tuesday, March 6, 2012 at 07:17PM Report as inappropriate
I'm not so sure about the oil-free page. When I went to a dermatologist, they said that I should use a cleanser with salicydic acid and use an oil free moisturizer, and I don't even have the oiliest skin! I'm sure that if you use 4 or more products on your skin daily and they are all oil free, it can harm your skin because you are not getting any moisture. I think if you use just an oil free moisturizer and a cleanser, all you need is the moisture of a daily shower.
by flash501 Sunday, February 19, 2012 at 10:45AM Report as inappropriate
So helpful, especially the information about not needing to use a separate eye cream. That's one less product to keep.
by mccombss Sunday, February 19, 2012 at 09:44AM Report as inappropriate
A very informative article. It was an eye opener for all of us. I appreciate your advices which are really honest ones, especially washing your face twice a day. washing the face twice a day is really very important. Thanks for sharing. Regards, kimiorganic.com/ Kim Girbin
by kimgirbin Sunday, February 12, 2012 at 10:48PM Report as inappropriate
Yayyy for skin care rules to break! Very informative!
by pink_love Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 07:21PM Report as inappropriate
Very eye opening article! It is informative, especially the last part. I tend to apply too much product on my at times, thinking it will be more effective that way, but it really just aggravate the condition of my skin. Now, I shall follow these tips!
by celinedejesus Sunday, January 8, 2012 at 08:52PM Report as inappropriate
I have always felt the need to get eye cream, but now I know I can use moisturizer in the same area as long as it has the same ingredients. All the other rules were also really helpful.
by MissXu Wednesday, January 4, 2012 at 04:56PM Report as inappropriate
People always do a double take when i say that i rarely wash my hair and i am not diligent about washing my face everyday... but it works for my skin. :)
by lelalu100 Sunday, January 1, 2012 at 02:51PM Report as inappropriate
Good advice! Especially the washing your face twice a day..
by lanigaga Sunday, December 18, 2011 at 01:19PM Report as inappropriate
these rules are so true, i've been somewhat having a skin care routine that is exactly explained like this and i think my skin looks good, except when i'm stressed (i break out when i'm stressed).
by mosh Tuesday, December 6, 2011 at 01:24AM Report as inappropriate
Very good advice, especially about the oils. Thanks!
by tarynone Saturday, December 3, 2011 at 01:15PM Report as inappropriate
It's interesting how washing once a day can be beneficial. I noticed on nights where I was way too sleepy to wash my face my skin looked better the next morning before I went to sleep a break from acne fighting chemicals is always good
by monconduitm2 Friday, December 2, 2011 at 02:22AM Report as inappropriate
really great article to share to everybody.
by selle_lou Thursday, November 10, 2011 at 06:30PM Report as inappropriate
It is very good and informative article. Thanks!!!
by robert786 Tuesday, November 8, 2011 at 02:02PM Report as inappropriate
Im very confused about what to do with oily skin. so for products would it be oil free or not?
by andyv1217 Tuesday, October 25, 2011 at 08:33PM Report as inappropriate
A very informative "good sense" article!
by laurie_dupuis Tuesday, October 25, 2011 at 01:23PM Report as inappropriate
An eye-opening article! I only wash my face once a day, in the evening, and that seems to work well for me.
by WiccanLady Thursday, October 20, 2011 at 08:16AM Report as inappropriate
Some of these articles tend to contradict each other, so I don't know what to believe. I wish I could take the advice of this article, especially about my acne, but I've had such bad results recently that I'm scared to go against my Proactiv and prescription routine that has mostly worked for me while some of the other minimal and natural routes have not.
by ladylotti Wednesday, October 19, 2011 at 11:19PM Report as inappropriate
My skin is way to oily to wash only once. I also use retinol every night and I heard if you don't wash it off and then go out in the sun, it can cause damage because retinol breaks down in sunlight.
by RoleModel Thursday, October 13, 2011 at 10:36AM Report as inappropriate
Although I can't imagine not washing my face twice a day these tips were very helpfu.
by taryn.romero Thursday, October 13, 2011 at 09:23AM Report as inappropriate
Very interesting and useful!
by Breton Wednesday, October 12, 2011 at 04:16PM Report as inappropriate
This is great advice. I only wash my face with a cleanser at night. Mostly because I've been wearing make up all day. In the morning, a few splashes of warm water and I'm good to go.
by msbrown822 Wednesday, October 12, 2011 at 02:02PM Report as inappropriate
What a wonderful and informative article. I learned a lot from this!
by LittleBunny Wednesday, October 12, 2011 at 12:24PM Report as inappropriate
I only wash in the evening, not in the morning. Typically my skin is dry and the added cleansing takes time and moisture i don't have to waste.
by kiwikiwidragon Wednesday, October 12, 2011 at 11:30AM Report as inappropriate
Those were useful to know, but I can't imagine washing my face only once a day...
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When? Tuesday 18th December 2012
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Who? Billy Pearce, Lynda Bellingham, Brendan Sheerin, Brian Godfrey, Ben Stock, Hannah Grover, Christopher Drake, Afnan Iftikhar, Daisy Boyles, Matthew Prince Chambers, Jack Gow, Chelsie Johnson, Ricky Lee Loftus, Kerry Pearce, Innis Robertson, Laura Watson, the Children of the Sara Packham School of Dance
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Harrison, who Executive Produces, wisely keeps the focus on high quality for all-comers, not just the very young, making Cinderella a very successful family show. The sets are astonishing and no expense has been spared; in particular, some wonderful moments of stage magic are sure to delight the younger members of the audience, with gasps of delight clearly audible in the packed house on press night. Throw in live animals, some incredible puppet design and plenty of knowing nods and winks for the more mature panto-lover and Cinderella delivers a near-flawless pantomime experience for young and old alike.
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But it is Pearce who sells the show with his infectious enthusiasm and humour. The children go crazy for him and he is cheered, clapped and screamed at (he usually screams back) whenever he is on – or about to come 0n – the stage. The adults in the audience can also take a lot from Pearce, with plenty of self-deprecating humour and safe innuendo. Throw in the occasion ad-lib and Pearce is a name that is guaranteed to sell tickets year after year.
In Bradford Alhambra pantomime tradition, bookings are already being taken for next year's production – Aladdin – shout out if you can guess who is returning?!
Cinderella plays at the Bradford Alhambra until Sunday 3rd February 2013.
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New photos from Panoramio added to Google Earth
If your photo has a higher ID than 2,000,000 you need to wait some weeks until the next update, expected for middle July, that will be larger and I hope will help catch on the delay.
By the way, now the blue compasses that represent photos from Panoramio in Google Earth are substituted for little cameras that are more intuitive.
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Actually the blue compasses are substituted by small blue dots, that turn into small cameras if you zoom near enough. This seems a good idea, less clutter. Even so there are areas that are completely covered (for example try Kinderdijk in Holland, where I was looking yesterday, or any other well known monument in the world).
What I do not appreciate is the "fusion" of Panoramio layer with Wikipedia and other Geographic Web layers, they are now distinguished only by the color. I would prefer being able to turn them off individually.
Best regards from Italy
PS: I look forward to having a forum again where to discuss with the rest of the Panoramians!finally, after waiting almost 2 months: 3 pictures in GE (out of 158 uploaded images). at least one step forward. btw, all of them have slightly higher IDs than 2,000,000 (the highest is 2,006,091). I have read with some satisfaction that the panoramio team plans to catch up with the backlog and hope that the promise will be kept this time: waiting 2 months or more in a web2.0 environment is really stretching the good will ...
saw the blue dots too: they disappear at mid-level zoom and reappear than as little cameras when zooming even closer. in my view, they cause even more clutter than the blue compasses when zooming really close. agree also with the suggestion to keep the different layers apart.
I can only underline the multiple requests here in the blog comments to re-open the forum or to provide at least an explanation and an approximate frame of time for its availability. the options for communication in the panoramio community have been reduced considerably after the announcement of the take-over by google.
cheers from brussels, christian- zeregaJune 28, 2007 at 9:28 AM
Well, what do you expect? It's a free service and apart from that i guess the Panoramia crew is buried by one million photos in just three months.
ReplyDelete - tcufrog86June 28, 2007 at 12:12 PM
I got more into GE with this update. I am surprised at how many of mine made it even though I have not uploaded all that many pictures into Panoramio. Thanks to the team for all your hard work.
ReplyDelete Thanks for the update on the GE update, Eduardo. I suddenly went up from 2 to at least 61 in Google Earth so that makes me happy. I do wonder about the popular tab: it does not seem to have been updated for a long time.
Like many others, I would certainly appreciate any information on when we can expect the forum back up and running. I realise you guys must be hard at work, but a quick message would be widely appreciated I think.
As for the new dots : I like the smaller dots, but I too would like to be able to switch off the different items in the Geographic layer. (Although that comment should probably be directed at Google.)
Regards from Ottawa, jhkNone of mine were included. Most were under 2,000,000, and uploaded shortly after the April update.
The photos were very good quality, and exactly what Google would be looking for (at least in my opinion). They are photos of local sites of high interest, in a bay area city in an area with almost no current photos uploaded.
No copyright notices or anything else in the photo that would cause an issue.- iris-a-mazJune 29, 2007 at 5:52 PM
Ok, a few of my pictures are not about places, but non of the others like skylines, buildings, etc where included to GE (ID around 1.800000) :-(( How can I find out why ... to improve?!
ReplyDelete - Rembert SatowJune 30, 2007 at 3:44 AM
The news about the forum reopening next week are even better than those about the latest update!
So long! Please bring back the compasses! There is not enough contrast with the background using the dots, and the cameras indeed clutter the ground view. Panoramio's own KML still works though, but it doesn't do compasses either bug instead big thumbnails. The only reason I can think of for not using the nice Panoramio logo is that they want to bring together images from many different services and show them all like the Panoramio ones are now, all of them looking alike on the map and only telling in the balloon where the image is from. Is the Panoramio "brand" going to disappear? Sometimes I would also like to browse Panoramio images only without the other Geographic Web placemarks, but it's now impossible. Please please please let us have our compass!
ReplyDelete- EnriqueJune 30, 2007 at 8:24 PM
If a picture with an ID under 2,000,000 (let's say 1,975,000) has not already been uploaded to GE, it means that it will never be uploaded??
ReplyDelete - AnonymousJuly 1, 2007 at 4:25 AM
hey, just wanted to let the powers that be in this site that i am a Pingelly rezzie and i am sorry guys BUT you have incorrectly published a photo of our War Memorial!!! I dont know where this one actually belongs but it is DEFINITELY NOT!!!! in Pingelly. Please replace with ours, people would only be ill informed if they were to view it on this site then come see for themselves.
ReplyDelete - Kostas KJuly 1, 2007 at 10:56 AM
User PMK uploaded few days ago the photo 3.000.000!! http://www.panoramio.com/photo/300000
ReplyDelete - Martin StoyanovJuly 1, 2007 at 10:58 AM
Hello! I like more compasses. Get back it in Google Earth, please!
ReplyDelete Thanks, Eduardo, for the explanatory note! As you see, the Panoramio contributors are looking forward to get the forum back ;-) ... I hope that you may be able to solve the issue with geographic layers but recognise also that the may not be your call only ...
Just saw that you and the team are working hard for the next update ... have pictures of mine up to 2,288,223 nominated for the popular tab. Thanks & congratulatons for classifying 300,000 more! This encourages really to upload new images.
Btw: Enrique (post 19) posted a valid question: what about images with lower numbers? Though I recognise that some of my earlier images may not confirm with a very strict interpretation of the Panoramio rules (no people, cars etc), two rather popular ones were not nominated popular (2,002,967: a castle with 40 views and 2,112,611: a landscape with 42 views).
Cheers, Christian- Ivan MirkovskiJuly 2, 2007 at 1:51 PM
Hey Eduardo,
I have also the same question, what about photos with lower ID Nr around 1,4 ml. for example? Won't they ever be published in GE? I uploaded some really good underwater photos from a national park in Macedonia. (all of them ID-ed around 1,4 mil.) You can review them along with some others from me:
I think they deserve to be in GE
Cheers and regards from Macedonia
Ivo - gloriaJuly 2, 2007 at 4:44 PM
it says on here my pictures are to small to put on google earth what does that mean its a normal size picture ?????????????????????
ReplyDelete - NOKEROJuly 2, 2007 at 9:07 PM
It's great,I'v upload a picture half years ago.But i am still very happy when i saw it on google earth.
ReplyDelete Dear Eduardo,
Congratulations with the growth of your project. It is a true gem on the internet.
What can we do to change Google's opinion on the photo camera icons? The compass was a truly original icon of great clarity and simplicity. It's a shame it is replaced.
Other than that, I am glad with all improvements.- Petteri KantokariJuly 3, 2007 at 3:59 AM
The new symbols in GE are a great improvement. The camera icons may be a little too large though.
Eduard, I´m also wondering about all of the 20 of my photos in range 194177-194241 which are not included in the popular set. They should be there by now, unless I´ve misunderstood. So, should I delete and reupload them or should I wait a little more? Another good work for the google earth / panoramio team !
Only two things...
1) why one of my recent pics ( ID [URL=http://www.panoramio.com/photo/2057032]2057032[/URL] ) is updated on google earth while, if I understand, only the photos with ID lower then 2KK was updated ??? - this is the only recent ( ID higher then 2.000.000 ) pic of mine that I can see on google earth !! -
2) The little blue compass was really more beautiful that the new little blue ball ... infact only by using the zoom we can see the new simbol ( the little camera )
Thanks to panoramio and google earth team for the new update :DIf any of your photos is under ID 2,000,000, but not included in Google Earth, please contact me at questions AT panoramio.com and I will see what happened. If we made a mistake we will add this photo to Google Earth in the next update.
Christian and Ivan now your photos are included in "popular" tab and will be included in the next update. Petteri, please, send me an e-mail with the exact IDs of your photos not included.
Fabrizio, some few photos are over ID 2,000,000 are included but are so few that I didn't mention them.
Dirk and Para, I am sorry, but we can't answer questions about future plans because we don't know the future, still too early to say anything.
Eduardo- Mari CrisJuly 3, 2007 at 7:12 PM
My photo still has not been posted on google earth what should i do?
ReplyDelete The enormous number of published images causes whole areas to be covered by blue dots. This is realy realy annoying. Take i.e. Mount Rushmore. Earlier you could zoom in and actually see the presidents. Now the whole mountain is covered by theese dots. Google should definitely come up with a function that allows us to hide the dots.
ReplyDelete- AlexMatosJuly 5, 2007 at 3:55 PM
I am very happy as a rooky user of panoramio, member since last may, that I have allready some of my photos on Google Earth, even he oldest one beeing ID 2034542.
Besides that happiness, panoramio is a great community, and it's amazing to find some so similar photos, like we were side to side shooting them.
Keep up with the good work.
Best Regards,
AlexMatos Hi all,
what is a minimum size for images to be published in GE? I am uploading my pictures in a 800x600 pixel resolution to spare your webspace ;-) so are these pictures too small to be published? (could not find an answer to this in the FAQ section).
In Google Earth I like the small blue dots (symbols should be small and subtle) but i don't like the little cameras. They are too large and too grey, cluttering the raster image. So, please keep the little balls but change back the cameras for the blue compasses.
And please, please re-seperate geography layers, so they can be switched off individually. Other projects might want to join those already represented. For instance, on Wikipedia we are working to integrate articles in non-english languages into GE. So, every user should be able to choose the layers he/she wants.
That much for today, thank you Eduardo & the team for providing such a fascinating project. Cheers from Berlin -- MichaHi Eduardo
Some one has decided to dispute where l live and place my sunset in the middle of the ocean http://www.panoramio.com/photo/1578881 and now it has been removed from the popular set,
Moon shot http://www.panoramio.com/photo/1595617 has a suggested location in africa, only l know where l took the photo why would someone dispute it,
what can we do Eduardo- MaalobsJuly 7, 2007 at 4:54 PM
Yes, the camera icon is a nice idea, but in reality, the icon is too big and too dark.
Because of their colour, it's difficult to spot them when they are alone, and because of their size, they create serious clutter when there are many of them.
Something smaller and brighter would be more optimal as an icon, I think.
Thanks for bringing this great web app to the world! - Mark EitelJuly 7, 2007 at 7:51 PM
One thing I wonder: What exactly constitutes a "popular" photo, which will then be uploaded to Google Earth? In other words, what criteria must a photo meet before it is deemed "popular"? I have searched, browsed, perused, and looked, and can't find an answer to this, other than a vague reference to "favourites". It can't be merely due to number of views, because I have seen photos not in the "popular" tab that have more views than some photos that are included. I have in fact seen a "popular" photo that was viewed only 15 times, and one of those views was me, I suppose. So then, does someone have to have a photo as his or her favorite to make it popular? Any answer would be appreciated. Thanks. :)
ReplyDelete How panoramio will manage the (never ending?) avalange of photos in the future?
Sometimes I miss the date of capture inside the photo description.
It would be great to have a special tag field for inserting the date / month / year of capture with the possibility for searching special dates in panoramio/Google Earth.Hello, I really enjoy the Panoramio concept but I'm a bit disappointed by the compression technique used on the picture files. When I compare the same photos uploaded in FlickR for example, the pictures appear really clean as if they were resized in Photoshop or some high quality editing program. In Panoramio it seems that there is too much "sharpening" effect, giving some image a not so flattering aspect. In particular I've noticed it on evening pictures which are usually a bit grainy.
I don't know if Panoramio and Google may try to find a better balance between quality and image file size but when you look at the amazing rendering in FlickR, it should be great.- SicherlichJuly 10, 2007 at 12:40 PM
Funny that you are complaining about your images do not show up. Two of my images do; but not by me and they are violation my copyright. Unfortunately here is nothing written what to do in this case. The Images are uploaded by http://www.panoramio.com/user/44766 - I wrote an E-Mail as well but did not get any response :o( ...
Sicherlich Hi
Several of my older ones (which are on GE) are in 800x600. This is simply because I already had them processed at that size for other use. The photos in the normal view are reformatted to 500 pixels on the longest dimension by the Panoramio software on upload. I therefore now upload my photos at 1000 pixels on the longest dimension. This way there is little loss of quality in the resizing process and the full size view is large enough to be useful without being large enough to eat hard disk space on the servers and slow down the download too much for those who want to see the full size view.
Uploading at full camera resolution is a no-no for a couple of reasons. It takes up too much space on the servers, slows down the download and gives others access to a quality which I may chose to reserve for people willing to pay for my work.
Regards, Owen
PS. PLEASE bring back the forums soon!- Paula ParsonsJuly 11, 2007 at 6:10 PM
Hello everyone,
I am new to photography and new to panoramio, but i have found it easy and fun. Photo's seem to take several weeks before they appear on google earth. So i am being patient! I have seen some wonderful pictures from around the world and i am proud to add my photos, you can see them on panoramio by Paula K. Thanks to everyone who has made their photos public! It opens up the world!
Paula K - Dallas59July 12, 2007 at 5:09 AM
Hi Eduardo
Some one has decided to dispute where l live and place my sunset in the middle of the ocean http://www.panoramio.com/photo/1578881 and now it has been removed from the popular set,
Moon shot http://www.panoramio.com/photo/1595617 has a suggested location in africa, only l know where l took the photo why would someone dispute it,
what can we do Eduardo
I had the same thing happen to me. I have a pic of Miami beach in front of our hotel...http://www.panoramio.com/photo/1331018...someone repositioned it to a street. Maybe they were just playing with that option? Some actions which seem malicious aren't really meant to be. I hope that others will help me in repositioning some photos I don't have mapped. On some photos I forgot were I took the pic exactly. I'm not worried about being popular...I like the critiques and commonality I share with the community. I really hope the forums are going to be up soon..I miss the interaction and it was fun. Where the heck is Fairfield??? In June, Dirk (comment 17) wrote:
17 Dirk Hartung on Jun 30th, 2007 said:
When will we receive some news about the future plans after the acquisition?
Is there a chance, that Panoramio gets integrated with Picasa (the tool or the web albums)?
So what about it, Panoramio? There is no info on this OBVIOUS question on your site.
Please put this information in your "About" page. Take a clue from Google and make everything you do simple, straightforward, and easy.
Thank you.- Kostas GrammenidisJuly 12, 2007 at 4:59 PM
Ther is a big number of Panoramio photos located at the North pole that have nothing to do with the pole. Why have they been included in Google Earth ? Just to praise vanity?
ReplyDelete - SlinnoddJuly 12, 2007 at 10:15 PM
I understahd there is a big backlog on the uploading of pictures to Google Earth, but why can I not see my newly updated pictures on Panoramio's map as advertised in the FAQ?
Thank you for replying.
Kind regards
Slinnodd Hi everybody, Hi Eduardo & Joaquin!
Many if not all, of the above questions / comments / issues were discussed, and often answered, in the Forum. For example the sharpening, the stealing of images, the north pole, the never-ending story of the "misplaced" photos that go out of "popularity" and so on!
You announced that the forum was going to be reopened soon: where is the problem?
A community so big like the Panoramio's one, often can solve and answer the problems "by itself", using the experience and know-how of "older" users, without even the need for a direct contact to the administrators. And anyway, the forum was part of the fun: having the possibility to share with others the good and bad things of this wonderful idea that Panoramio is!
So, I say, please bring the forum back, in whatever form you want, maybe moderated if you wish so.
Ciao dall'Italia
Caudio- Rembert SatowJuly 13, 2007 at 6:08 AM
Indeed, the forum is a vital part of every community! (It also helps to brush up my english.)
So long! - ChipStephanJuly 13, 2007 at 8:21 AM
Jimmy, I'm not part of the Panoramio team, but I think I understand what they are looking for. I looked at your pictures on Windows Spaces. You've got many good photos there, but most of them reflect your interest in racing and motor sports. Many are pictures of racetracks, cars and drivers, and your medels. They don't show much about the areas in which they were taken. Pictures like that are fine for sharing in Panoramio, but aren't likely to get to GE, because they don't really describe the places where you took them.
On the other hand, your pictures of Auckland, NZ, are the sort of photos that have a very good chance of getting to GE.
When I post pictures of flowers, pets, friends, or of my hobbies and special interests, I don't expect them to get into GE, so I usually don't map them. Lots of my pictures that I think should be in GE don't get there, but that's up to the Panoramio team, and while I would like to share them with all the world, sharing them in Panoramio is enough for me. - Chuck_MtlJuly 13, 2007 at 8:52 AM
I'm curious as to why since all my pictures are downloaded in JPG format that some are converted to BMP when I access them. Just wondering. I noticed that the BMP files are much larger than the JPGs. - ChipStephanJuly 13, 2007 at 10:51 PM
Thank you, Jimmy5353, I hadn't seen those. The photos are all excellent, and deserve to be on GE. But you've only posted five photos, and they don't have any tags, You have only one conversation, so it's unlikely that other people will see your photos unless they just stumble upon them. I recommend that you look at other people's galleries, make comments on their pictures, and let them know that you are interested in their work. If you do that, they will start looking at yours, your view count will increase, and your pictures will be more likely to get into the popular set
Good luck, Jimmy5353. And post some more pictures, I like your Fuzhou and Auckland work. Judging from many of the comments in the Blog it might be a good idea to add info on the 'popular set'/GE in the HELP page. Information such as:
Who decides what photos make it to the popular set?
How many times does a photo have to be nominated?
Does the number of hits have an influence?
Does scarcity/ density of photos in an area have an influence?
What are the qualities that make a photo suitable?
Should overuse of filters, zoom and photo editing software be discouraged?
What photos are NOT suitable?
Advice on drawing viewers to your photos.
Bravo on a great website! And well done on keeping inappropriate material out (unlike other well known photo sharing websites).
regards Gerry [http://www.panoramio.com/user/49280](http://www.panoramio.com/user/49280)I uploaded a photo over two months ago and it still isn't showing up. The ID number is 1977441 so I'm guessing it should have been included in the latest upload? I understand it takes time to do all of the updating, but it seems a long time to wait to know if something is wrong with how I'm doing this.
Thanks!ChipStephan - I was not aware that hit counts on photos related to the Popular tab? From what I read, the Popular tap is merely the subset of photos that Panoramio have sent to GoogleEarth, and has nothing to do with how many people have viewed your photos. I may be wrong, but they state in the FAQ/Help that:
"You can see at any time the current set of photos that will be sent to Google on the Popular tab of our map."
That implies the Popular tab is not actually "popular" photos (as in view counts), but actually just the files that have been "approved" by the Panoramio team to send to GoogleEarth.
It will be interesting to see how the next update goes.- Graue EminenzJuly 15, 2007 at 1:01 PM
i've got some questions concerning the content of the uploaded photos. Does Panoramio send photos with animals in zoos or animals shown in flightshows to GE? What's about "things" shown in museums?
Best regards - ChipStephanJuly 16, 2007 at 7:51 AM
Geoff: Yes, you're right, hit count may not have anything to do with what gets in the popular set. In fact, as Gerry points out, it would be helpful to know the criteria for a photo to get into it. My point to Jimmy was that to get into GE, your photo has to be in the popular set, and sharing it with others via comments and tags might help, but don't guarantee it.
I've looked at the galleries of some of the people who's Fuzhou photos are on GE, and they all look rather sparse. Few pictures, no favorites, few or no tags, few or no conversations, in all, very unlikely to attract any attention. I don't know why that should be. And I don't know why Jimmy5353's photos are not on GE while the others are. I can understand his frustration. Sergio 61898: Many of your photos are "popular" which means they are really to be uploaded to GE. In comment #12 above, Eduardo states that the next upload is scheduled for July 20, just 4 days away!
Mike G: I agree, it's a long time to wait. This "backlog" they have makes it hard to tell if your photo has been rejected or if they simply haven't gotten around to it yet. Your photo is marked as popular, so I'm guessing it should be included automatically on the 20th.
Diego: It would be nice, wouldn't it? But no, the only thing you can see in panoramio is whether each photo is "popular" or not, and you can only see that for each photo separately. The only way to see if your photos are actually in GE is to look for each one in GE.
Geoff and ChipStephan: I agree, the hit count must not be that important. One of mine was included with only 7 hits. I think some of those galleries with no contacts and thousands of hits may be getting their popularity strictly from the location of their shots on the map. Their are many Asian users who fall into this category, so maybe they are using some other system to communicate with each other, though not with the rest of panoramio (you'd think panoramio would include it's own name in their spellchecker). As far as Jimmy5353, I think the datestamps on his photos disqualified them.
My 2 cents: I think they should have, instead of just "popular" and "not popular", at the very least an initial state like "not processed yet" which will be changed once they make a decision. That way, you'll know if you should keep waiting or not. And it doesn't seem like too much trouble to show that information from the thumbnail page for all photos at once in addition to the one-at-a-time approach they have now.- corbudanielJuly 16, 2007 at 10:03 AM
I ahve a problem with the new panoramio... though a great idea and a inovation few would of thought... BUT the people use it as a hi5 or a comercial use... it is wrong... i think that google earth is ment for people that like to see the wonders of the world and the panoramio to be used to show the landmarks in high resolution... it is not interesting to see persons faces and photoes without a name... or a comment... it is lame and not usefull... I THINK GOOGLE MUST BE CAREFULL NOT TO TRANSFORM THIS INTO A PHOTO WASTE... would be nice to be much more cultural and intelectual! :|
ReplyDelete - ManuelJuly 16, 2007 at 1:03 PM
Las locaciones indican la región de Antofagasta, sin embargo, corresponde a fotografía de la región de Atacama. por favor modificarlas.
Gracias. Congratulations!
One small suggestion: You can let the user choose if they would like to expose their own contact information to public or not. Currently you don't have such function, when people for example click the people who uploaded the photos, all they can see is the album, not the user contact info and biography, which may be helpful for other people's trip plans.Chip - it could be that those people with photos in GE from that specific location, were amongst the first users on Panoramio, at a time where the volume of photos was so low it was much easier for the team to approve them. I guess when trying to approve 200,000 photos per month, they will always overlook some, and remember also, that may be a rather subjective decision.
ReplyDelete- Norman ShoemakerJuly 16, 2007 at 9:37 PM
Message for Jeremy Stone,
Please get your pictures of Rocky Point volcanic rocks out of Kino Bay. You have cluttered our area.
Thank you,
Norm hello,
what i would wish me for panoramio is that photographers can send other photographers private messages without to have it always visible to all other users. special for example if u get a question about allow to let use your picture for other ppls website. or is there almost a way to answer such requestions without needing to make a comment to that picture again?- Mary KeJuly 17, 2007 at 8:24 AM
I was trying to locate Noribetsu in Hokkaido, Japan on Google Earth. I just couldn't find the place. Could someone put the spot there?
Thanks! - Vasco PiresJuly 17, 2007 at 4:12 PM
Greetings to you all. I'm starting to get scared with the millions of photos that are uploaded to Panoramio. It has been growing at a geometric rate. Some Google Earth areas are already flooded with (sometimes awfull quality and missplaced photos)
If the majority of photos that come into Panoramio continue to go to GE without a better filter, the panoramio layer in GE will soon be virtually useless.
I predict that sometime in the future (perhaps not far from now) Google Earth will have to make a 180 degree turn in all this. Refilter and dump the majority of the photos and upload only the ones that pass through a very strong filter process.
Its my conviction also that for a very known object like a building or historic structure for instance, there should only be a dozen (no more) very good and well placed (within meters) photos. When a better photo appears it should replace one (less rated) existing and not be added to the flood.
Regards Did I bring a huge debate here? I am so sorry to Panoramio guys. But this just shows how Panoramio Staff deal with some people's efforts.
Talking about the photo, no mater landscape or not, I think Panoramio does not care.
Let me show you this: http://www.panoramio.com/photo/1250024
Is this called landscape? Maybe?
What about this: http://www.panoramio.com/photo/1191019
I am very disappointed about my previous photos. I have already deleted them. I wish my new photos would be showed on GE. I still trust Panoramio. Shall I?- Dallas59July 19, 2007 at 9:22 AM
Maybe a system where there would be a few markers on the place of interest and clicking on those markers would open another link to a page with links to photos in them would be fine. Maybe marking off areas or regions and placing one link to those many photos for that region, with another link from each photo to individual maps would work. Just my $2 and 50 cents...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v47/dallas59/region.jpg Love the site. I had been viewing photos while trip-planning, then decided to join.
I see some areas are very popular, I'm wondering why there is no limit to the number of photos at a given monument? I would suggest a user rating system to maintain the favorites, and maybe have a link for "more images"
Of course "where" is necessary for GE, but I think "when" is also very important. I've seen photos taken in the 1970s. What if, as an example, a user could select the 1970s as a filter and see the world as it was then.
Ok, rambling - I would also like to see more ways for users to interact with each other.
Regards- Out SiderJuly 19, 2007 at 3:51 PM
Jimmy, your previous photos probably were not included in the GE because of the visible url addresses. Good decision to delete them. As for your new ones, try to turn off date and time on your photo cammera. People interested in it (if there are such) could allways find it in the exif data.
I could not see anything wrong with the photo 1250024, the other one is allready deleted.
Regards - ChipStephanJuly 19, 2007 at 10:40 PM
I think there a lot to consider in Vasco's last post. I'm as guilty as anyone of "flooding" with all the pictures of Yosemite that I have posted. But Panoramio, even though it's tag line is "Photos of the World" has always allowed portraits of people and pets, cars, and other personal photos of no interest to GE. In that sense, Panoramio is a photo sharing service like the countless others on the internet.
There are hundreds of thousands of photos being posted, and I don't envy the Panoramio team who are trying to decide which ones belong in the popular tab.
If they should decide to limit submissions only to those photos that illustrate a location, or that provide interesting sights for those users of GE who are only looking information about a location, that would be fine with me. But filtering wouldn't be easy. The task would be monumental and probably would require a large paid staff and a lot of time. And there would have to be some way for a submitter to dispute a rejection - requiring more staff and time.
I see no solution other than trusting the submitters' own judgement, and continuing to provide a means for people to challenge inappropriate or misplaced photos.
I hope when the forum comes back that it allows us to submit profiles, and send and receive personal messages and e-mail while keeping e-mail addresses confidential if that's the person's wish. Even PHPbb provides some spam filtering through various ban controls on it administration pages. Allowing personal messages on the restored forum would reduce the number of comments - some people have hundreds of pages. Just restoring the forum would help that way, too. - Vasco PiresJuly 20, 2007 at 7:04 AM
I must emphasise that I am not against uploading millions of pictures to Panoramio, I already uploaded lots of photos, some of wich I don't even map because there's no evident location . But I think that GE has got to have other purpose, and should be a lot more carefull. Better to have many but good photos than totally flooded with medium overall quality.
For now the problem is not so evident because there are only a few photos on GE compared to the size of our planet. But in about 5 years from now? If this geometrical growing rate continues... Ahh, since there is no Forum, this is the best place to post this:
Thank-you Panoramio team for the new information line being provided on the photos that not only gives the photo ID for easy reference, but ALSO indicates whether or not the photo has been selected for upload to GE !!!
The one down side: now if the Forum is (ever) re-opened, there will only be half as many posts!!!! ;-) (OK, maybe not)
My only wish list item now: is there any way to return the 'Photo Extra Information' ? That was so helpful, and it gave info on my own photos I have no idea how to find out otherwise!
Thanks!- Steve ScharJuly 20, 2007 at 9:06 PM
I respectfully disagree with Vasco's position. Judging photography - beyond technical aspects such as pixel depth, resolution, etc. - is a highly subjective matter. What constitutes a "good" photo is a matter of debate.
Furthermore, and especially now that Panoramio is a Google subsidiary, it would violate one of Google's stated philosophies that they will not make a change if it doesn't offer a benefit to their users. There are a lot of photo sharing sites to choose from. Panoramio's biggest edge is that your photos may be included with Google Earth. Take that possibility away - focus it on an elite few - and there's no reason to post anything here. Hello! I have a qestion. I've uploaded some photos with black frame (for example http://www.panoramio.com/photo/2761068 or http://www.panoramio.com/photo/2761105 ). They are not in the "popular". So this frame could be the reason why they aren't there? I couldn't find an answer in the FAQ.
ReplyDelete- Matthew WinnJuly 21, 2007 at 1:11 PM
I'm a newcomer to Panoramio, having discovered it when pictures first started appearing on Google Earth but only just having gotten round to uploading anything, so I apologise if I'm covering an idea that has been discussed before, but would it be worth adding a special tag that acted as a declaration of "this photograph is illustrative of its location"? Assuming that the majority of users wouldn't abuse the tag, that would at least eliminate the personal pictures from the list sent to Google Earth.
The only reason I'm uploading pictures at all is to illustrate locations that have few or no existing pictures or to provide a ground view of what is otherwise a puzzling object on the aerial picture. It's mildly irritating to think that illustrative pictures are overlooked because Panoramio's staff are slogging through 4000 pictures of cats, as if someone else has embarked on a project to photograph and map every cat in their county. My vote doesn't count, but if I had one I'd like to see only geographical images being uploaded to GE. When I'm planning a trip, or just exploring the map I want to see photos of the places themselves, not a random family standing in front of a tree that might be near the area in question. Like someone has already mentioned, there are a ton of photo sharing sites that allow users to upload their family photos. GE is a map tool, therefore I'd like to see images relating to the places, not the people that have been to the places. I don't mean to offend anyone by stating my opinion. If I have, I apologize.
ReplyDelete- ChipStephanJuly 21, 2007 at 11:42 PM
I agree with you, Mike G, as to uploading to GE. It's the Panoramio team who decide what gets uploaded to GE, and they've been pretty good about keeping out random families standing in front of trees. But they can't catch every one of them.
ReplyDelete SantoB, I also vote on an update on the "what is the status on the Forum" issue. Eduardo mentioned couple of weeks ago that it would be back "next week" back then but the Panoramio team must be using an alien time table for weeks :).
The Blog is just updated way to slowly to be of real use to the community.
As for the good old discussion on "what Pictures should be popular and or on GE and which not" (old discussion for those of us which had been in the forum when it was still active):
There are many users out there with as many different opinions on that issue. What is garbage for one is treasure for someone else.
A bit of info for those that are relatively new to Panoramio:
-Earlier this Year Panoramio did not filter any pictures when uploaded and any picture that was uploaded landed on the Popular list right away if mapped (btw there was no other list, the "All" and "Your Photos" Tab did not exist).
Individual users had the ability to "vote" off pictures as "not descriptive".
Over time this resulted in some users crying foul because their pics where removed and others saying the system doesn't work because too many in their opinion "non descriptive" pics stayed on the popular tab.
After a few forth and back battles the Panormio team decided that each and every one picture gets "reviewed" if it can go on the Popular tab. IMHO this system still lets through too many duds but then again the filter system is very arbitrary in nature.
Now as for pictures on GE: The system was and maybe still is that Panoramio submits pictures that are on the popular tab to GE, then GE filters those pictures again for content (not working too well either IMHO) before placing them on GE. Most likely this is still being done in this way.
In regards to a question that Mary Ke had some time ago (that's why I hade the Blog), check your spelling, it should be written "Noboribetsu" not "Noribetsu". So type "Noboribetsu Japan" into the GE search box and it will bring you there :)I agree guys. I don't like the use of filters to enhance shots either and I especially hate to see those fake photoshop images. Panoramio is a medium for sharing the sights, culture and moods of that tiny spot in the world where we live or have visited. But it's up to the us the users - 'show it as it is folks'. Gerry ps Bravo Padraig Harrington the 'Open' Champion.
ReplyDelete- Andrey LoukianovJuly 23, 2007 at 11:40 PM
I have a suggestion.
What I noticed is when your photo is accepted and added to Google Earth the number of views for that photo quickly starts going up. It would be nice if Panoramio could provide some feedback to Panoramio users on which photo is receiving more clicks and total number of views for all photos of the specific user.
It would be nice to see such statistics as
Views last day, Views last week, Views last month for each photo. "Hot" photo status would also be nice feedback (based for example on the number of photo views per week with respect to total number of views per user over the same period). - Diego FrancoJuly 24, 2007 at 8:38 AM
Hi, i'm worry about Photos in Bogotá City, Colombia. Photos in GE over Bogotá is in different locations (more than 10 kms), or has bad names. There is so many photos in this situation (near to 80%), so is difficuilt to suggest all of them. Also there is many photos in correct locations that isn't upload to GE. However Bogotá hasn't few photos in comparation other cities of the world. Colombian People hope new uploads and corrections about photos actually in GE, than you :)
ReplyDelete - Giovanni MassaJuly 24, 2007 at 4:13 PM
I just uploaded my first pictures to Panoramio,
in hope to one day see them in Google Earth.
but after one month I think that uploadeds won't come in never Google Earth - ChipStehanJuly 25, 2007 at 6:40 AM
Mick: Absence of the forum hasn't slowed me down. I'm still posting. There is a user-run forum available. Make "Forum" one of your favorites and take a look. It's not like the old forum, but it works.
Giovanni: The last upload was June 27. Uploads are usually done once per month, usuallym but not always, around the middle of the month. Sometimes it just takes longer for the team to go through the thousands of postings. And when they do and submit their list to GE, there's no guarantee that GE will accept all of them. - ChipStephanJuly 26, 2007 at 10:06 PM
Yes, jimwitkowski, right after I posted that last message.


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Alleged hit-and-run driver in court
Monday, June 17, 2013 @10:06 PMDECATUR -- A man accused of driving off after hitting a toddler was in court Monday.
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2012 Ford F-450 Truck
Starting at: $49,395
- Manufacturer Offers $4,750 or 0.0% on select Ford models $1,000 on select Ford models
The standard features of the Ford F-450 XL include Powerstroke 6.7L V-8 400HP engine intercooled turbo, 6-speed automatic transmission with overdrive, 4-wheel anti-lock brakes (ABS), side seat mounted airbags, curtain 1st and 2nd row overhead airbags, air conditioning, 17" forged aluminum wheels, driveline traction control, four-wheel drive, AM/FM stereo with 2 speakers, and a systems monitor. (en)
Transmission |
Engine |
City/Hwy mpg |
XL | XLT | Lariat |
6-spd auto | 6-spd auto | 6-spd auto |
$49,395 | $55,145 | $58,865 |
400-hp 6.7L 8-cyl | 400-hp 6.7L 8-cyl | 400-hp 6.7L 8-cyl |
No Data | No Data | No Data |
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