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Skip to comments.Bob Menendez plays race card, blames conservatives for scandals
Posted on 02/25/2013 9:19:25 AM PST by chessplayer
At a Black History Month event held at a Trenton, N.J. church on Sunday, Democratic Senator Bob Menendez blamed conservatives for his ethics scandals, framing them as a racial attack on him because of his Hispanic heritage. I have felt the sting of discrimination, he told approximately 300 worshipers, according to the Bergen Record. It has never been easy.
Now we face anonymous, faceless, nameless individuals from right-wing sources seeking to destroy a lifetime of work, Menendez said at Shiloh Baptist Church.
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Now we face anonymous, faceless, nameless individuals from right-wing sources seeking to destroy a lifetime of work,
Oh, I get it. It's Bush's fault.
I didn't know Hispanic was a race. Ummmm.....learn something everyday.
Beyond pathetic.
If they're destroying YOUR "lifetime's work" then more power to them!
This thing is now entering its terminal phases -- the "I'm the victim here!" phase. He's not long for this political world.
He's still pushing the "nameless, faceless" narrative I see. Makes it easier to lie when you deliberately prevent people from seeing the actual accusations.
yep, I can see this. It's all the CONSERVATIVE movement, behind this. No one despises him because of his LIFE STYLE, it's only his skin color. GOOD job, playing the RACE CARD, but it doesn't work that way any more because so much of America is MIXED race.
Hispanic heritage you say? Let's see your green card. The party of illegal immigration brought unwanted scrutiny on themselves by erasing the southern border. Now anyone who remotely looks hispanic will be under the spotlight. And all of the US citzens of hispanic heritage can thank the democrats, the mexican government, LaRaza, drug cartels, employers of illegals, and illegals themselves for painting a target on them. Sorry, but the gringos have had enough, and the legal hispanics will just become collateral damage.
Yeah. It's all the republicans fault he couldn't keep his penis in his pants and away from little girls. It's just a "vast right wing conspiracy out to destory....... the Hispanic guy."(when all else fails, use the race card).
"Sting of discrimination" my eye. That was just the hooker smacking his fat ass.
if patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel
then "racism" is the FIRST refuge of every liberal scoundrel.
That should appeal to low-information voters.
Who were the brain trusts at Shiloh Baptist Church that gave this pedophile a platform to spew this trash?
I have to assume this is a loonie left "church" rather than a real house of worship.
a liberal device further conveniently subdivided so that a "white Hispanic" like Zimmerman doesn't get a pass
I was waiting for all the evidence to come in (as I always do) before I made any decision about his guilt or innocence in this matter. However, now that he's played the race card I'm sure he's guilty.
are there any free thinkers there who realize how wrong it was, I wonder.
I suspect that with you, Bob, the girls were doing most of the work. Although I don't doubt you were working with your hands.
And pleading your case in a church on Sunday is the last refuge of a liberal scoundrel.
Bobby Menendez is saying "Johnnie made me do it".. -OR- If Johnny can do it why can't I...
Liberals are stuck with juvenile logic.. always..
because they are juveniles.. they never grew up..
I want the following questions presented each and every time the racebating/race card BS starts...no matter who starts it.
"Excuse me but why was MLK Jr. wrong? Why don't you believe content of character matters more than the color of one's skin? And I want a straight answer now."
Every place. Every time. By all of us.
They can either answer or all their 'friends' are going to question their 'patriotism'.
And not a single Republican knew about this guy?
I should think, for example that if the pubs wanted to get that seat they would have hired an investigator get info use it against them in a campaign or something.
B it the pubs knew nothing.
What took him so long?
Their own gay/pedo secrets would be used against them. You KNOW there's something like that the Dems have on some of them. Hill's FBI files have long memories...
Oh brother. Bad analogy. The only grape this idiot has ever seen has been out of a bottle.
Yep. Absolute power corrupts absolutely - on both sides. People who have unlimited power, unlimited luxury, and people bowing to them on command, have a tendency to find the normal, peasant like life a bit boring.
Zackly. He's a WHITE GUY!
Well, their website explains a whole lot. I see they orbit around their strong presence at their lord and savior zero's inauguration.
Shiloh Baptist Church must use the Holy Melanin Glue to keep their reparation between Church and State.
Hey, Bob! Look in the mirror. You are white.
You are so bingo on that. This is one example of the problem we have with this entrenched political class.
As a group they have secrets they must hide.
Nope. And 18 is legal in te Dominican Republic; it's 17 in New Jersey.
Democrat resume enhancer.
The only better enhancement would be if he were paying transgender,disabled, midgets of color who are single mothers just getting their lives turned around.
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Kaye, M(ary) M(argaret)
M(ary) M(argaret) Kaye 1909?–
(Has also written as Mollie Kaye and Mollie Hamilton) Indian-born British novelist and author of books for children.
Although Kaye has written many mystery novels, she is best known for her works of historical fiction set in India. Her experiences growing up in India and, later, her travels with her husband, a major general in the British army, have enabled her to write knowledgeably about the exotic locales in which she sets her novels.
Kaye's first novel, Death Walked in Kashmir, was published in 1953 but her first work to achieve wide acclaim was The Far Pavilions (1978). Four of her novels published in the 1950s and early 1960s have recently been republished and have been better received now that The Far Pavilions has established Kaye's reputation as an accomplished historical novelist. Changing British attitudes towards India partially explains the different receptions accorded Kaye's work in the two time periods.
Kaye's historical dramas, The Far Pavilions and Shadow of the Moon (1956), each combine a faithful account of the era of the 1857 Sepoy Mutiny with a romantic love story. The books are thematically similar as well, both centering on the conflict between Western and Indian culture. This conflict is seen on both a political level, in Britain's failure to maintain control of India, and on a personal level, in the protagonists' struggle to reconcile elements of both cultures in their own lives. Like Kaye herself, the protagonists in both of these novels spent their childhoods in India, were brought to England to be educated, and returned to India as adults out of love for that country. Trade Wind (1963), another historical novel, is set in Zanzibar and also concerns a clash between cultures. The heroine of this novel goes to Zanzibar to stop slavery and discovers that her limited understanding of the culture of the people she is trying to help will interfere with her goal. This book was reissued in 1981.
Although critics have virtually ignored Kaye's mystery novels, they have praised her India books, comparing them to Margaret Mitchell's Gone with the Wind and Rudyard Kipling's Kim. They commend her ability to tell a suspenseful story and her knowledge of Indian history and culture; however, they also note that her characterizations are weak and that her lavish descriptions of the Indian countryside are overdone. Kaye's books have attained popular success in Britain, where anti-Indian sentiment has died down; in the United States, where interest in India is growing; and in India, where The Far Pavilions has reportedly been used as a classroom text.
(See also Contemporary Authors, Vols. 89-92.)
John Bayley
Shadow of the Moon is an excellent, long historical novel about the Indian Mutiny, excellent because Miss Kaye has a real historical conscience, a sense of impartiality and a great many old mutiny records to draw upon. She cannot refrain from exploiting the amorous and horrific side of the business—dash-ing officers with moustaches, and screaming ladies in crinolines having their heads hacked off by sepoys—but she does not let these things get out of hand and she should be read by those interested in the period as well as by addicts of the romantic past.
John Bayley, in a review of "Shadow of the Moon," in The Spectator (© 1957 by The Spectator; reprinted by permission of The Spectator), Vol. 198, No. 6720, April 12, 1957, p. 495.
The Times Literary Supplement
Shadow of the Moon is an unbiased picture of India at the time of the Mutiny, emphasizing that not only the policy of the Company but in addition the personal failings of many of its servants gave the sepoys of the Bengal Army an excuse for betraying their allegiance. The events of the war are clearly described, and the author makes the point that British garrisons in every station were hampered by the presence of women and children, who must be protected even if their protection immobilized a possible striking force. But perhaps this book would have been better as a popular history of the Mutiny, for the fictitious characters are wooden and unconvincing.
"History in Disguise," in The Times Literary Supplement (© Times Newspapers Ltd. (London) 1957; reproduced from The Times Literary Supplement by permission), No. 2877, April 19, 1957, p. 237.∗
David Tilden
Miss Kaye has lived in India much of her life and her forebears have distinguished themselves in service in that country for more than a century. [Shadow of the Moon], centered in the Indian Sepoy Mutiny, is dedicated to them.
The story beginning in a mid-Victorian setting in England that is hardly less strange by present-day standards than India itself, is the tale of a young girl, half British, half Spanish, who was born in India but reared chiefly in England after the death of her parents. Her mother, dying in India's heat, had asked to have the baby named Winter in longing for the coolness of her distant home.
The story is of Winter's journey and marriage, by circumstance ended in the carnage of the uprising, and the way out that the girl found through the reign of terror. Episodes in that story, patterned largely after the almost incredible actual events of 1857, are filled with excitement and suspense, but the story of India itself will have even greater fascination for many readers. Out of her own experience, including tales handed down in her family, Miss Kaye pictures its welter of races, religions, ideals and superstitions; its fragrances and stench, beauty and horror. Nor does she shrink from showing the shortcomings of all but a few of its British overlords.
Once one gets past a rather slow start …, this novel is a thriller the more thrilling because so much of it is or might have been true.
David Tilden, "An Indian Mutiny Thriller," in New York Herald Tribune Book Review (© I.H.T. Corporation; reprinted by permission), September 1, 1957, p. 3.
The Times Literary Supplement
Kenya and the lingering aftermath of Mau-Mau provide the setting for Mrs. Kaye's Later Than You Think. A glorious farm in a golden valley beside a lake, surrounded by a garden with wonderful flowers and trees, is very well described by the author and it is hard not to feel that the Kenya scene and the love-interest of her story have not charmed her imagination more than has the detective-work necessitated by the plot. The colonial police-officers, however, are well drawn and there are some moments of lively apprehension.
"Deck-Chair Detectives," in The Times Literary Supplement (© Times Newspapers Ltd. (London) 1958; reproduced from The Times Literary Supplement by permission). No. 2947, August 22, 1958, p. 469.∗
Anthony Boucher
Price and jacket copy [for Later than You Think] might lead you to suspect a serious suspense story bordering on the straight novel. Don't be misled; this is a perfectly conventional whodunit of the feminine persuasion, verging on the Had-I-But-Known school, redeemed and revitalized by its setting in the Rift Valley, fifty miles from Nairobi, just after the Mau-Mau uprising—which apparently is known euphemistically in Kenya as "the Emergency." What seems to be first-hand depiction of the delicate tensions among white-settlers in this uneasy aftermath to violence manages to impart conviction and even distinction to an otherwise routine mystery-romance.
Anthony Boucher,...
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The Times Literary Supplement
The heroine [of House of Shade] is an English rose of truly startling naivety. ("Your I.Q. is probably the lowest on record," says her admirer with a rare flash of insight.) This silly girl, having been incompetently framed for a murder in London, dashes off to her mother's house in Zanzibar accompanied by a whole plane-load of suspicious characters. There is mention of Communists and buried treasure before she just escapes being pushed out a window. Miss Kaye writes pleasantly and the Zanzibar settings are agreeable, but the whole thing has a fainly old-fashioned air, reminiscent of those innocent adventure stories which filled young people's magazines in the 1930s.
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James Sandoe
The House of Shade … is in Zanzibar but Dany Ashton is in London and the police want her for questioning. So, one thing leading to another, she boards the plane as the secretary of a very tipsy young American publisher. M. M. Kaye's comic romance (with detection) takes a nimble, cooly absurd, somewhat word-heavy course, making admirable use of a handsome drench in the charms of Zanzibar. The sound of Americans (two of whom have strategic places in the plot) eludes Miss Kaye, whose range of British voices is well enough heard. It's a pleasant piece of work, striving a little hard for its thrills but keeping one diverted well enough.
James Sandoe, in a review of "The...
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Francis King
Among the many different categories of the novel. I have created two for myself: holiday novels and hospital novels. The first must be long, absorbing and not too exacting in style or thought. The second must be also long, also absorbing and in no way productive of morbid imaginings. M. M. Kaye's The Far Pavilions falls into both these categories, even if its size and weight are such that to place it across the knees might easily bring a deck-chair crashing to the ground or cause a relapse in a debilitated convalescent.
An account of a young man's life in India for about twenty-five years from the Indian Mutiny to the Second Afghan War, this jumbo historical novel reminded me irresistibly of...
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Brigitte Weeks
The legendary sun has finally set on the British Empire and the India of the Raj has passed into history. In the inevitable sea-change that follows, its strengths are being remembered, its weaknesses softened by time.
Riding the crest of this revisionist wave, this Cecil B. DeMille production of a novel [The Far Pavilions]—15 years in the writing—brings those times close as only the most stirring fiction can. M. M. Kaye's formidable imagination, steeped in history, war and romance, conjures up sights and sounds of India, from palaces in the Himalayas to the docks of Bombay.
Ashton Pelham-Martyn, a hero worthy of the name, is the son of an eccentric British anthropologist...
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Theon Wilkinson
The Far Pavilions follows M. M. Kaye's two highly successful historical novels Shadows of the Moon and Trade Wind; all three set in the second half of the nineteenth century in lands bordering the Indian Ocean, and all three evidence of the author's passionate involvement with India…. She writes with the conviction that events must be told in their fullness or not at all, that every facet of information touching the characters must be embraced; and The Far Pavilions is a great oriental pot-pourri from which nothing is left out: Indian lullabys; regimental bawdy songs; regimental history, wars and campaigns; weddings; funerals; poisonous plants—a tribute to much painstaking research,...
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David Weinberger
Shadow of the Moon is a pale shadow of M. M. Kaye's previous best seller, The Far Pavilions, a 1,000-page epic of 19th-century India (pronounced In-juh). Her writing was competent and professional, she conveyed the historical information painlessly, and if the plot and characters were coldly calculated to get the hero to all the important events, still it was a novel one could read with a clear conscience. The new book is again set in India, this time prior to the Sepoy Rebellion of 1857, and we learn little new. Still, the familiar landscape might be enticing is only Kaye had bothered to come up with a new plot. (p. 56)
Kaye's reliance on mutual misunderstandings as a plot device in...
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Nicholas Shrimpton
M. M. Kaye's The Far Pavilions blended lurid oriental colour with homely occidental emotions. A quarter of a million copies have been sold in hardback alone, in less than a year. Shadow of the Moon, from the same hand and in the same manner, seems set to repeat that extraordinary success.
It's not in fact a new novel, having first seen the light of day, in abbreviated form, in 1957. But it is an extraordinarily apt successor to The Far Pavilions. Like that book it is a romance set in Victorian India. Like that book, again, its plot combines a dash of Kim with a good deal of Tristan und Isolde. Winter de Ballesteros, the heroine, is the orphan daughter of an English...
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Rahul Singh
It's intriguing how certain themes and subjects can be dormant for years and then, for some uncanny reason, they suddenly catch the popular imagination. In the 1960s Africa was "in" and now, I'm glad to say, it seems to be my country, India.
Until quite recently, anybody writing on India for a Western audience was usually told, sadly but firmly, by his publisher that "India just doesn't sell." (p. 903)
[How] does one explain the change? Perhaps the 32 years since India won its independence have been a sufficiently long period for the British public to reconcile itself to the loss of Empire and to view the Raj without too much discomfort. One could go further to say, a little...
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Staige D. Blackford
[Molly Kaye's] love of India is equalled only by her knowledge of it. This love and knowledge help to explain the superb success of her [The Far Pavilions and Shadow of the Moon] in America. You can quickly tell that this author writes not only from the heart but also from the head, that her comprehension of things Indian is as vast as it is varied. On the pages of her works India, with its many castes and creeds, its poverty and splendor, with its appalling heat and towering mountain peaks, comes to life. Furthermore Miss Kaye has been able to make the past come alive in the present. As one critic said, she "gives the reader a sense of being caught up in the fabric of another time, with the bonus of...
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Andrea Lee Shuey
"God is a great deviser of stratagems," writes Kaye. The stratagems devised for [Trade Wind] will keep the reader turning pages compulsively. Twenty-one year old Hero Athena Hollis sets out from Boston for Zanzibar in 1859 to fulfill her mission in life—to stop slave trading. On the journey she is washed overboard and rescued by Rory Frost, a piratical slave trader. Stubborn, spoiled Hero clashes with equally stubborn, overconfident, wicked Rory. Disagreements come in rapid succession about her naïve assumptions, his overbearing manner, her proposed marriage, his occupation, etc. Palace intrigue, revolution, a pirate raid on the island, and a murder lead up to Rory's kidnapping of Hero....
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Walter Shapiro
[In Trade Wind Kaye's] theme is, as always, the collision between western values and native culture in remote corners of the world in the mid-19th century. But Kaye recognizes all the moral ambiguities raised by this titanic clash of alien cultures. Her narrative indicts hypocrisy, intolerance and the inability of many westerners to appreciate or understand local customs. But she carefully avoids blanket indictments or the shrill rhetoric of anti-colonialism.
For those who have read her earlier novels, particularly The Far Pavilions, an epic portrayal of colonial India, it is unnecessary to emphasize her complex moral stance. But it is important to sing the praises of M. M. Kaye for the...
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The New Yorker
[In Trade Wind, as usual,] Miss Kaye's heroine and hero (this time, an orphaned American socialite and an English-born, Anglophobic smuggler) are outsiders and iconoclasts; while they despise the arrogance of Victorian talk about "progress and the millennium," they cannot adopt the cold-blooded resignation of some of their Eastern friends, the difference between intervention and interference must be learned by trial and error. Miss Kaye's ideal reader would be an amateur of British colonial history with a weakness for romantic fantasy; most readers will enjoy her novels for one of her specialties and in spite of the other. (p. 87)
A review of "Trade Wind," in The New...
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On March 20, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton hosted an event to celebrate Amelia Earhart and the United States' ties to our Pacific neighbors at the Department of State. Secretary Clinton was joined by Secretary of Transportation Ray LaHood.
On July 2, 1937, Amelia Earhart and her navigator Fred Noonan left the Territory of New Guinea (now Papua New Guinea) en route Howland Island in the South Pacific, but they never arrived. The event underscored America's spirit of adventure and courage, as embodied by Amelia Earhart, and our commitment to seizing new opportunities for cooperation with Pacific neighbors founded on the United States' long history of engagement in the Asia-Pacific region.
You can learn more about the event here.
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Earhart's disappearance has captured our imagination for years. Can't wait to hear what Hillary has to say.
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"Spirit of adventure and courageâ€â€¦This is exactly the American spirit!
Today's world is able to travel, communicate, trade, even love in different time zones due to efforts and sacrifices of American heroes, inventors and scientists like Amelia Earhart, Fred Noonan , The Weight Brothers and many others who risked –in some cases lost- their lives in order to create a better, friendly, civilized world. And once again, America did it and shared the "air dream†with the entire planet!
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Her spirit will never rest until they found out what happend to her
David W. in Ohio writes:
when i found this link about amelia,which i am always enterested in reading about and SEEING photos of the past. when i read there was a photo recently found,i was thinking this was great; a"photo"..i mean,they mentioned "a photo",but,then don't even show it. all the do is "talk" about it.what gives ?
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There is more about Amelia Earhart and her Family History here and in the Family Forest: familyforest.wordpress.com/2009/10/15/amelia-earhart/
Growing up I was fascinated by her story!
Loveninao L. in California writes:
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Cortez D. in California writes:
I think this is a woman that deserves to have more information provided for our children to study. It is about empowerment for our young women who dream of traveling to the stars. The amount of history that has been delayed of Amelia Earhart, has also delayed a great deal of awareness to encourage young promising talented women to set a goal of become an astronauts. Just a thought!
Victo in Florida writes:
Another airplane(japanes airforce) japanes ;Amelia airplane fired,Because seem spied .......
Donna B. in Washington, D.C., writes:
Amazing~ Tribute to Amelia Earhart ;) very powerful! & truly inspiring messages from our Honorable Speakers. We greatly appreciate the wisdom & history that you share, and salute your many accomplishments that aid all mankind. This motivates us to continue working towards the goals in very similar ways, as Leaders before us had done so well. Life is full of possibilities… if only we Believe &"Strive for Greatness Together" around the Globe. Taping says it all.
We're really looking forward to sharing your expressive incite with the rest of our extremely large Mentoring Group of young Scholar/Protégés, Teachers, Volunteers & Parents, so that the Legacy of great works, innovation, determination & drive can live on *+* Cheers!
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Ralph in Texas writes:
Like all other efforts to find Amelia Earhart, Mrs Clinton will fail. Who ever took that picture would have also been able to see the exposed landing gear on the plane upside down in shallow water. The wreakage would have been salvaged years ago.
Diane in California writes:
I'm just wondering if Mrs. Clinton is going to use her own money to search for Amelia or is she going to use the taxpayers money. I think (and I'm pretty sure I speak for most of the American taxpayer, that they would perfer feeding their living children (at least the ones who survive in the womb, which should be the safest place on the earth... I'm talking to you Mrs. Clinton)than search for someone who has been dead for 75 years. Just let her rest in peace.
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Secretary Clinton,
Good for you in honoring Amelia Earhart this way. Thank you for your appreciation of her, as well as all the great work you do for our country. You are an inspiration.
Best wishes and God bless.
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3.6 is Wells ERA for JULY.
If this is the only move, I'm not impressed.
I'm not sure exactly what I was hoping for, but this wasn't it.
3.6 is Wells ERA for JULY.
If this is the only move, I'm not impressed.
I'm not sure exactly what I was hoping for, but this wasn't it.
Tell me about it! I hope don't just pick him up. I mean if David Wells does really good the radio was saying a rotation of:
Schilling, Beckett, Wakefield, Lester, D. Wells
Kip Wells to the Rangers. PHEW! The Sox were gonna give up Abe Alvarez it seems like.
The Wells deal (luckily for Sox fans) may be in jeopardy at the moment... Not sure why but thats what they are saying on ESPN news...
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Now, people are saying the Red Sox may stand pat with who they have and not make any trades..which would be a bad idea because the pitching staff isn't doing so well lately.
The only reason they would say that they are going to stay with what they have is because they couldn't make anything happen. Too bad. Santa didn't come this year.
Look at it this way: Not getting Kip Wells was an unbelievable move this season!
Last edited by SoxSon; 07-31-2006 at 01:59 PM.
I guess we're gonna have to wait for about 10 minutes..that's when all the blockbusters come rolling in.
I heard that Wells actually went to Texas.. Although I have yet to confirm this...
Good news for Sox fans!!!
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so nothing happend?
I dont think so, unless they wanna hide a great trade but I don't think Theo did anything.
Oh, you didn't hear?Originally Posted by RichardLikeWhoa
We didn't get Kip Wells today. Yahoo!!!
nothing huh. That's depressing. How do we do nothing when there are so many HUGE rumors?
Let's make a deal..
5 PM and if there are no trades then you can say Boston did nothing.
Btw, Trot is on the 15-day DL with the bicep injury. Van Buren is back to Pawtucket and Brian Corey is called up to Boston.
Originally Posted by rwolfe09
I agree. Let's wait a bit still.
Unfortunately i've been waiting and I'm not very optimistic that anything is going to happen. Kip Wells was a decent pitcher when healthy, and I'd certainly take him over Alvarez which is what we would have given up, I don't know why we didn't make that move. I'm very underwhelmed though.
Yeah but his ERA and record..ergh no way.Originally Posted by Jager
He was hurt most of the year and only made 8 starts, the last 4 of which were pretty good.
It's just been announced on ESPN that Alfonso Soriano will stay with the Washington Nationals.
So, we officially done now? I suspect so.
I'm gonna second that. I mean unless we get someone through the waiver wire sometime later. I mean I can see Schilling, Beckett, Wakefield, Lester and Wells pitching (switch around Timmy and David if you wanna). Plus we all know Matt Clement is done for the year since he went to the 60-day DL. With them in the rotation you'll have Snyder in the bullpen but im still pretty mad that we are stuck with Seanez and sometimes stuck with Tavarez. I mean I can stand with Manny, Coco and a revolving Pena/Kapler in right field until Trot is ok. The infield is fine. So that's how I feel after the highly quiet Red Sox 2006 trading deadline.Originally Posted by SoxSon
Wow I didn't see this coming. The worst part is that not only did we not get any help, but Nixon is on the DL, so technically we got no help and we lost a player. Fantastic.
If Wells does bad tonight, expect Theo to be busy to get a player through the waivers..I'm thinking maybe someone like Mark Redman (first name popped into my head).
can someone explain all that to me? I don't understand how you can get players after the trade deadline. Anyone know what the waiver wire is all about?
Theo confirms it. No trades, "very disappointed", "didn't want to sacrifice big part of future for 2 months of work."
This is from Wikipedia.org:Originally Posted by Jager
Any player under contract may be placed on waivers at any time. If a player is waived, any team may claim him. If more than one team claims a player from waivers, the team with the lowest record in the player's league gets preference. If no team in the player's league claims him, the claiming team with the lowest record in the other league gets preference. The previous year's standings are used during the first month of a season to determine preference.
If a team claims a player off waivers and has the viable claim as described above, his first team may choose one of the following:
arrange a trade with the new team for that player within two business days of the claim; or
rescind the request and keep the player on their major league roster, effectively canceling the waiver; or
do nothing and allow the claiming team to assume the player's existing contract, pay a waiver fee to the first team, and place him on their active major league roster
If a player is claimed and the option to rescind is used, this option to rescind a waiver may not be used again for that player in that season. If no team claims a player from waivers in three business days, the player has cleared waivers and may be assigned to a minor league team, traded, or released outright.
The waiver "wire" is a secret within the personnel of the Major League Baseball clubs; no announcement of a waiver is made until a transaction actually occurs. Many players are often quietly waived during the August "waiver-required" trading period to gauge trade interest in a particular player. Usually, when the player is claimed, the waiving team will rescind the waiver to avoid losing the player unless a trade can be worked out with the claiming team.


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Area Police Reports
CHARLOTTE – James G. Hall, 33, of Edson Road, Sinclairville, was charged with endangering the welfare of a child, harassment and criminal mischief. Deputies on April 3 around 6 p.m. responded to a complaint that Hall drove a vehicle with two children into a ditch. Police said Hall also slapped a victim in the face and destroyed household property. He was arraigned and remanded to Chautauqua County Jail.
POMFRET – Cortney L. Tomsick, 23, of Gardner Street, Fredonia, was charged with moving from lane unsafely, failure to keep right, aggravated driving while intoxicated and blood alcohol content of .18 percent or greater. Deputies on Sunday stopped Tomsick on West Main Road for moving from a lane unsafely. Tomsick was found to be intoxicated and was released with appearance tickets to be in court a later date.
POLAND – Michael C. Schimek, 25, of Cherry Creek, was charged with seventh-degree criminal possession of a controlled substance and possessing a controlled substance outside original container. Deputies on Sunday at 2:40 a.m. stopped a vehicle on Route 394 for not having a front license plate. Schimek, a passenger, was found with a baggie of pills, but could not identify what the pills were. Deputies learned two of the pills were a controlled substance for which Schimek did not have a prescription. He was released to appear in court at a later date.
HARMONY – Tyler J. Johnson, 20, was charged with failure to reduce speed for a curve and failure to keep right. Deputies on Saturday at 12:24 a.m. responded to an accident in which they said Johnson failed to reduce speed for a curve when he lost control of his vehicle and struck a ditch. Johnson was transported to WCA Hospital for minor injuries.
Allen M. Briggs, 21, of Sherman, was charged with driving while intoxicated, aggravated DWI and speeding. Briggs on April 4 at 11 p.m. was stopped for speeding and was later found to be intoxicated. He was released to a third party after being issued appearance tickets. Johnson will be in Busti Court at a later date.
NORTH HARMONY – Brandon Chase, 20, of West Smith Street, Corry, Pa., was charged with unlawful possession of marijuana. Chase was stopped for a traffic violation, and troopers could smell marijuana odor from the vehicle. A baggie with less than 25 grams of marijuana was found. Chase was released on an appearance ticket.
FALCONER – Bridget G. Putman, 21, was charged with driving while intoxicated, moving from lane unsafely and unlicensed operation. Troopers on Saturday observed a vehicle swerve into a curb on Homestead Street. It was learned Putman only had a learner's permit and was intoxicated. Police said she provided a blood alcohol content of .13 percent and will be in Ellicott Court at a later date.


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Let words shape your destiny
March 10, 2011
It's been said, "What you said yesterday is what you are living today." In other words, we are a product of our words. Words have power, positive or negative.
It is sobering to realize you and I have within us the potential for building or destroying and we do it with words. Words go before us and shape the future. Words represent who we are. Negative and worry-filled words reflect our personality. Words have a way of locating where one stands. Words spoken go forward and shape the future.
I heard someone say, "Our biggest problem is one inch below our nose." How true. Words said in anger are not easily forgotten. Angry words bring unrest, ill feelings and animosity.
Have you ever heard of the "what ifs?" (If it happens, then what?) That is a joy-stealer big time. Worrying is agreeing with the enemy and saying what he says. Worrying nullifies prayers. God honors prayers that are prayed in believing faith.
Insanity has been defined as doing the same thing over and over, but expecting different results. If we knew that every word we said would surely come to pass, we would be mighty careful what we put in motion. Proverbs 6:2 states it clearly: "Thou art snared with the words of thy mouth, thou art taken with the words of thy mouth." (KJV)
Words can stir up hostility. "Hatred stirs old quarrels, but love overlooks insults." (Proverbs 10:12 NRSV)
Wrong words spoken to a child can make deep wounds, and the results can overlap into adult relationships. Depression has been associated with verbal abuse that is hard to overcome. Wrong words spoken can initiate an illness, destroy a relationship and even cause vicious crimes. Replacing hate with love solves a multitude of problems.
Right words spoken to a child builds self-esteem, a strong character and a successful adult.
Many have the "what if" disease. "What if the report comes back positive?" "What if we have to declare bankruptcy?" "What if the sky falls?" And to all of this I say, "What if it doesn't?"
How about right words? "Pleasant words are as an honeycomb, sweet to the soul, and health to the bones" (Proverbs 16:24, KJV).
Right words spoken create a pleasant atmosphere and wholeness. A right word spoken keeps marriages together and produces well-adjusted children. Right words leave special tender memories. Words can follow a path to peace, or words can lead to continual strife. Wrong words take away joy and zest for living.
Optimism and kind words promote a cheerful outlook. Looking on the bright side helps to see difficulties as challenges and opportunities. Soaring with the eagles is better than riding in a storm.
Kind words gain tremendous victories simply because they come from someone who believes in you or me.
Right words can heal, help and encourage. Even though we stumble and slip, we can get right back up and start over. I want my words to heal, help and encourage.
I believe we are wonderful, amazing human beings, created by God.
Let's be blessed today, and may our words shape a great destiny.
You are a wonderful and amazing human being, created by God. May you be blessed today. May you know the height, depth and breadth of his amazing love.
May God supply all of your needs according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus. (Philippians 4:19)


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Slowing Down to Enjoy the View
Sunday afternoon. Eastman House. Stopped by to breeze through the Trains! series of exhibits before they close at the end of the month. Plan totally foiled by the first one I encountered, Passing Time, Videos by Andrew Cross. Cancelled all thoughts of "breezing through" and slowed my afternoon way down.
Most depictions of railroads focus on the power, the speed, the mechanics of trains. Cross is a British artist that has taken an interesting look at the American rail system by producing films that focus on the other side – the slow side. So much of what trains mean to regular people (and by that I mean those that don't work in the industry) is WAITING. Waiting on a platform, waiting for a long freight train to pass through a crossing. Cross' work makes you confront the waiting.
The installation is on several large monitors with comfortable benches in front of them. The pictures on the screens appear to be static at first glance, but upon closer inspection, there is a quiet action about them. You start to hear the background noise and notice small movements. Then, after many minutes, a train finally comes by, and the piece takes on a whole other feeling – noise and motion disrupting the stillness.
My favorite was the video of a train station unidentified other than a sign celebrating it as the "Station at the Geographical Center of North America" (Rugby, ND I discovered on google). The view is looking across the tracks to the platform and the station, there is traffic noise and a diesel engine idling quietly in the background, and the station agent walks out of the building once. It was susprisingly peaceful to sit and watch this scene, and to let my mind wander back to all the train platforms I've waited on, and think about the trips that they were part of. Eventually an Amtrak Superliner rolled in for a few minutes, and went on its way.
Stopping to sit with a piece of art for 15 minutes is not my normal M.O. in musuems, but I was delighted by it that afternoon at Eastman House. Slowing the pace, sitting quietly, and enjoying the mental journey this installation took me on was well worth the price of admission. Trains! is on through January 25, except this Andrew Cross exhibit is up a little longer, through February 8.


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Technology continues to advance at a pace that renders every new smartphone, tablet computer, gadget, gizmo, and doohickey obsolete almost upon purchase. And for every successful product—one that actually makes it on the shelf and turns a profit—there have to be ___ failed attempts. That's why we take a bit of a "wait and see" approach to innovation here at Grace to You. We're not about to jeopardize our stewardship by riding on the bleeding edge of every new fad that comes down the pike.
Has anyone else noticed how many new and innovative approaches to ministry have become commonplace in evangelical conversation? If you attend one of many faithful, biblically-sound churches around the country, you're probably scratching your head. But let me mention just a few I've noticed over the past year or so.
—Multisite churches are now all the rage. If you don't know what that means, you're better off for it. Still, if you'd like to know, take a look at this tutorial. No matter what that video claims, there is no biblical justification for multisite church ministry, where satellite congregations watching the main preacher's pulpit ministry remotely via video screen. Technology makes multisite possible, but is it spiritually beneficial for the saints of God?
—It would seem that to accommodate the multisite model, some are trifurcating the duties of a pastor into categories of prophet (preacher, exhorter), priest (counselor, encourager), and king (visionary, overseer, administrator). Never mind that those are roles, only fulfilled by Christ, not biblical categories for different kinds of leaders. Here's my question: Doesn't the biblical elder/pastor strive to follow the Chief Shepherd in being all those things to his congregation?
—What qualifies as biblical preaching these days is clear evidence of pulpit decline. There truly is a famine in the land. But that's not what groupies, fans, and followers think. Taking hype, celebrity, and conference appearances as proof-positive that "this guy is solid, deep, and theologically sound," many are unable to discern that their favorite preacher keeps missing the point of the passage. If the Holy Spirit's intended meaning isn't communicated in the sermon, you can be assured that is not solid, deep, or theologically sound.
—The departure from biblical authority in church ministry has led to at least two closely-connected errors: unqualified leadership and an appeal to personal experience for validation. The biblical qualifications for church leadership (1 Timothy 3, Titus 1) don't seem to be that important, so long as you have a good dream, vision, or voice-from-God story that justifies your deal, you get a pass on the qualifications. And has anyone noticed how charismatic theology goes unchallenged? Wayne Grudem's Systematic Theology is excellent, mostly; he's got some serious problems with the exegesis underpinning his charismatic views.
So, the question is not, "Can we do church, ministry, leadership, church planting, etc. in this way or that?" Advancing technology has opened many vistas of new possibility, so, of course we can. The better question, the righteous question, is this: "Should we do thus and such in ministry?"
The "should" question indicates accountability to a greater standard. And if it's church ministry we're talking about, that standard is sola scriptura. You won't find the flavor of the month in churches submitted to the biblical model of ministry (of which there are many, even if they are small and unknown), but it'll save you from having to trade out your shiny new ministry gadget every year or two as well. Just think about what God can build over the course of your life when you trust and obey the old standard to do its transforming work in your life and church.
We'll consider what that standard has to say in coming posts.
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Funny that this article comes up this week....I became a christian in '04 and began attending a baptist church, it just happened to be where I had access, I didn't care as long as I could learn more about God! I went for about 4 yrs I think, when I had first started they were in the middle of getting a new pastor....long drawn out process, had a stand-in preacher and, like I said, I didn't care! I was just excited about my new life in Christ! Sunday school was awesome, a little cheesy maybe at times, but there was real love and fellowship and growth, just awesome people of God! Eventually a pastor was chosen, everything was wonderful. I guess a year passed and the sermons were repeats, from the year before--as always, I had so much zeal and I didn't let it get to me....then the associate pastor basically was fired, abruptly and we were shocked! He couldn't bring himself to cast the pastor in a bad light, he kept quiet and just continued teaching a sunday school class, then he was barred from that....I then began to sit up and take notice, and oh how I prayed for our pastor....it became so stale and I finally left after 8 mths of praying and pleading for God to somehow bring forgiveness, to bring His "touch" back or something! The last sermon I became so instantly angry at hearing about how we were "dead baptists" that I knew I wasn't coming back...I'm still in touch with people that were there, I have heard that several left, they were leaving before I left. Yet still we've never bashed the pastor, I'm friends with him on facebook, but I began to check out a non denominational church that I had previously avoided, I listened and watched several sermons online before ever attending. Told God and myself that if they didn't praise Him in their worship, if it was somehow ungodly worship then I wouldn't return. I found it to be wonderful and challenging and excellent performances musically, they would do one secular song and incorporate it into the sermon...it was really pretty cool, he didn't water down the word, believe it or not! Dynamic and exciting vision....my career changed, travelled a lot and the different times made it convenient to attend....but no sunday school made me sad...then relocation 1100 miles away, took me to another very small church, much like it. What I'm trying to say is that I know God is using some of these churches, He connected me with one here. I just this week realized, though, that the sermons being very articulate and all, leave only the pastor "going deep" and us watching, letting the sunday school go and expecting us to "go deep" on our own in connect groups, or small groups has left a huge hole in my heart. We are just not truly applying it, or coming together and developing what we have heard further, we aren't holding each other accountable or going over the word precept by precept. I've decided to go where there is Sunday School! And structure! I believe the "new" churches need to go back to basics...I am
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I watched that tutorial on multi-site churches, plus a couple of the related videos. It deeply saddens me that an attempt is made to compare modern multi-site churches to NT churches. It demonstrates the desperation and utter lack of biblical discernment those leaders have. To hear Mark Driscoll quote 1 Peter 1:1 and claim that was a multi-site church is beyond comprehension.
It's tragic that some of the most popular pastors in America don't have a biblical understanding of the church. But... I suppose Paul told us to prepare for such a time as this.
I've notice it too, Travis. Pragmatism instead of Scripture is what runs most of these things. Instead of sticking to the simplicity and power of the Word regarding evangelism, ecclessiology (sp?), sanctification, and leadership, they run to the world and appeal to the flesh. And these gadgets and fads actually complicate things. (Think what would happen if the electricity went out, they wouldn't be able to have church services or "ministries".)
One trend I have noticed too, as you mentioned, is this worldly notion of specialty-pastors. Like doctors, they have become "specialized" (pastor of: education, assimilation, children's ministries, worship, drama/arts (!), evangelism, missions, administration, counseling, technology (I kid you NOT, there IS such a thing over at Acts 29)). There is hardly a man that has a General Practice now. (This isn't happening at just the multi-site churches, but just the larger churches in general.) Creating their own little niche, they pass the baton on to someone else if the need doesn't fall into their speciality. Moreover the flock will gain that mentality too for themselves--specializing in only one area and refusing to help in another regardless if its their gift. We are all to be equipped to help out each other in our local church, and where we are weaker, the one with that gift can help us become stronger in that area. That's the beauty of accountability and TRUE fellowship in the local church.
As a passing note, I've seen some "church" try to do an Internet baptism. Can you believe that??
I don't really think that smartphone, tablet computer, and notebooks PCs fit into the same category as a new fad, gadget and gizmo. I believe that PCs are part of life in 2012 just as Television became part of our lives back in the 1940s and 50s. I love my smartphone and my notebook PC. I can keep in touch with my family and friends from just about anywhere I travel. I have a wrath of unlimited resources at my finger tips at home in my study, at the church, or while flying from place to place in an jet plane. One can read the Bible in every translation and language out there, correspond, witness, or write a sermons from just about anywhere in the world with a 10" notebook PC and with many smart phones. That is amazing. I don't think it makes any difference if you read the Holy Bible from your smart phone, notebook or a hard copy. The PC, smart phone, TV nor radio does not take the place of "church", nor is it intended to. God is the one who does the work. We just put the info. out there. I believe God can work through smart phones and PCs just as he does news papers, radios, Television. As they say,Going to a church building does not save anyone any more than going to McDonald makes turns anyone into a hamburger. Just ask the thief on the cross.
Lisa, I like your heart for God's word and desiring to know and learn more about God. You're also discerning about biblically based churches. We found such a church when we became Christians and were led by an interim pastor to another church when we moved that was just what we were looking for. Being taught God's word and what it means, learning about context, intent of writers, history, manuscripts, Adult Sunday School, bible study groups and much more. Truth, the bible being the 'final court of arbitration' instead of what feels good or people wish it meant because of desires of the flesh. We did attend, one time, a legalistic church that dissed John MacArthur, Billy Graham and other solid preachers/teachers for not using the KJV only as God's word. You will be led to a good church and know it when you're there.
Biblically and physically a pastor can not "shepherd" a multi-site church. It's like letting the television raise your kids. Bible Einstein DVD's for adults!
@ Robert,
You have seriously missed the whole point! Please reread the post again but this time start with the second paragraph.
I agree with your premise, that multi-site church leadership is difficult as it is removed from the shepherding and accountability ministry defined by Scripture.
I am curious though ... how is what GTY is doing any different? You definitely endorse a broadcast ministry. Is this a case of the pot calling the kettle black? As GTY disseminates the Gospel and the Word through DVD, internet, radio, etc., how are you able to follow up on your ministry and engage the recipients?
Again, I think what you are raising valid concerns and I am definitely not a proponent of "broadcasting church." However, it may be that these churches are just finding a way to expand upon the ministry model that GTY has had for decades. Am I in error in seeing this connection?
Your thoughts?
Roger, #11,
GTY is different in that we do not consider our radio ministry as a replacement for a local fellowship. GTY is more of a supplement for Christians who are already a part of a local church.
Travis is not arguing against the use of technology as a means of exhorting the brethren or evangelizing the lost. Certainly technology has it's usefulness in those areas. It is a problem when we allow the ease of technology to replace the God ordained means of worship and fellowship at a local church that is outlined in Scripture. It is those "ordained" means that Travis will be highlighting.
Well, it seems that in this modern age that we live in, we have the resources of the world at our fingertips, and all that we need to do is but wave our hands, and the whole world is literally right in front of us. We have instant communication where we can instantly upload pictures to websites, letting all our friends know what we're doing, we can surf the internet from our phones, we have i-pods and i-tunes for music, i-pads for computing, i-phones for communicating. You can now do work anywhere with your i-pad, while looking up the latest game scores on your i-phone, and at the same time, talking to your wife on the phone while listening to your own life's soundtrack on you i-pod... If technologies keep improving at the pace that they are currently, then this is the first, true generation of "I." To those born into this level of technology, it is so easy to wrap your world around yourself, placing yourself in the center of your own universe.
The very first lie that Satan told was to Eve in the Garden of Eden, he said: "…your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God…" (Genesis 3:5) The idea here is that through "things," man can receive enlightenment that leads him to be the god of his own little world. (the divinity of man) Folks may never come right out and say that they are the god of their own little world, but it is striking to see how so many people use technologies given to them to center their world around themselves. ("entitlement generation?")
I think that Agur could see this one coming when he wrote in Psalm 30:7-9 – "Two things I asked of You, do not refuse me before I die: keep deception and lies far from me, give me neither poverty nor riches; feed me with the food that is my portion, that I not be full and deny You and say, "Who is the LORD?" Or that I not be in want and steal, and profane the name of my God." Like money, there is no inherent wrong in technology in and of itself, but rather the evil lies in how we use them. "For the love of money is a root of all sorts of evil…" (1 Timothy 6:10) There is a balance in how we use our money, and there is a balance in how we use technologies. Truly, whenever we feel that we could not possibly go through our day without using our ____ , then we love that thing far too much.
It is so easy to witness for Christ to those in the third world, and yet so difficult to witness to our own neighbors. To those in the third world, it is so easy for them to believe in a Redeemer, because they can see so easily, first hand, the results of a sinful world. To our neighbors, we all have it so easy here, with possessions and technology, that when you beg them to be saved, they respond: "saved from what?" Truly, Satan has used technologies of this world as a weapon to convince the lost that they have nothing to be saved from – they, themselves are the god of their own little world, enlightenment has fallen on all through their little gadgets, and they have "no need of a Redeemer."
While on a contract job in Seattle, I attended (once) a satellite location which was part of the Mars Hill multi-site church. I was, essentially, anonymous. I filled out a guest card, but was greeted by no one personally. The folllow-up email asked if I had a good time and directed me to a Facebook-like website. I think the multi-site environment leads to that distance since the shepherd is not physically present. If we are meeting to watch a sermon on video, how is that much different from going to a movie? There simply is no substitute for meeting together under a local under-shepherd.
Agree with the post with this one exception re the 3 offices of Christ (prophet, priest, king). The Heidelberg Catechism in Q/A 31 lays out why the Son is called Christ (annointed) with the 3 offices. Then this is related to us, called "christians" in Q/A 32:
Q. Why are you called a Christian?
A. Because I am a member of Christ by faith and thus share in His anointing, so that I may as prophet confess His Name, as priest present myself a living sacrifice of thankfulness to Him, and as king fight with a free and good conscience against sin and the devil in this life, and hereafter reign with Him eternally over all creatures.
This actually reinforces the point that a pastor does not build a ministry on only 1 office.
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To Fred #12
Yes, I agree with your distinction and thanks for making that clear. My bad ;-). As I contemplate what GTY does, I recognize that it serves as an outreach and also as an extension of what is being done in the Shepherd's Conferences as equipping and enabling those already in ministry. I know I have benefited from the resources and would miss having them available. I also see that GTY has sufficiently encouraged people to participate in a local church ministry.
Having said that ... I want to "cut and paste" a comment from my Facebook profile that a good friend shared. I believe his arguments are very salient. I posted a link to this article and asked for feedback. I will let him know that I have done so, this way, he can chime in further if he wishes.
He writes,
"The only possible justification for multi-sight church is in the absence of qualified elders and teachers. Other than that scenario it seems to me that the entire multi-sight model has made the same error the Corinthians made (I Cor. 1-3) in preferring on Spirit gifted teacher over another. Paul rebukes them for forming personality clicks and only wanting to be taught by Apollos or by Paul.
All the arguments used today to justify putting one man's giftedness in eclipse over other gifted teachers in a church could have been made in Paul's day to prioritize Appolls and his eloquence over Paul and his lack of formal speaking ability. After all, is it likely that unbelievers would want to come hear such an un-eloquent man as Paul speak? Wouldn't the gospel advance more with such a winsome and gifted man as Apollos speaking? The answer Paul gives is an emphatic "NO". He actually makes quite the opposite conclusion:
"For Christ did not send me to baptize but to preach the gospel, and not with words of eloquent wisdom, lest the cross of Christ be emptied of its power." 1Co 1:17
Rather than empower and advance the gospel, this type of thinking empties the cross of it of its power. We would do far better to trust the Spirit to give each church the gifted men that it needs and to fully utilize them all as they are gifted. We dare not receive one gift gladly and spurn another thinking that we do not need it (we already have one teaching elder thank you very much!). Doesn't the Great Shepherd know best what His church needs and should we not receive all his gifts with gladness and joy?"
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Pastors and elders, who stand before us every time we gather together to worship, are unique people. They represent a holy God and His standards of righteousness, all the while being sinners like all the rest of us pew sitters. They're not some beamed in by satellite, giant sized figureheads, who cannot reach out and touch someone personally. They're physically real. They're physically present. They're equally sinners. All their warts and failings, as well as their good fruits are present for all to be a witness to. When we super size the leaders of our churches (on big screens), they become larger than life itself; they become unreachable, unattainable, remote, untouchable and virtually unknowable. This creates a mystique and a warped curiosity about them, not to mention a fawning type allegiance to someone who seems all-vainglorious.
Mutlisite churches are for the pastor's glory only. Their passion is not in shepherding their sheep with firm handshakes, bedside hospital visits, reaffirming hugs and encouraging, godly words, or heart-felt sympathies for one's personal circumstances and tragedies; but their concerns are for building names and reputations for themselves. Shepherding simply gets too involved, complicated and messy; better left to an underling.
We need to see our leaders (pastors and elders) fail before our eyes, as well as "witness" their personal victories, and to realize that they are sinners in desperate need of a holy Savior like all the rest of us, which also reminds us that ONLY Christ lived a perfect, sinless life. These failings eliminate any possibility of hero worship, and any possible feelings that only THEY can be trusted with our very souls. Likewise, their personal victories and testimonies stir us on to greater depths of holiness.
The responsibility to preach the gospel to all the world was never given to a "few good men," who for whatever reasons believe that only they have unique communication skills, or some extra extraordinary visions or special words from on high (such as Mark Driscoll has fantasized about). God has endowed and gifted "many good men," in the body of Christ, so as not to create a hierarchy system similar to the Roman Catholic Church. No one man, or group of men, should have a monopoly on God's Word. Luther fought and died believing this, as did many of the Reformers.
**Loved** your article, Travis, and I am looking forward to all of them! Great topic!
# 16 - Roger.
See, this is what I really dont understand. Multi-site churches are big churches, how come they are not training their own people to pastor other churches?
Roger Burns :
Thanks for your great question and follow-up comments. I think you're on to something with your connection between church and parachurch.
GTY is clearly a parachurch ministry, which means there's no bibilcal mandate for it, even though there is bibilcal freedom to pursue it. GTY takes advantage of contemporary freedoms and technologies to support local churches (see the GTY Purpose Statement).
However, the parachurch should not set the standard for the church. The church is a mandated institution, which means there are specific parameters, boundaries, and guidelines for it.
We're not saying--as some have erroneously assumed--that churches are not allowed to innovate, use technology, or accommodate at all. That's never been our argument, even though our detractors want to paint us into that corner. What we're concerned about is that churches take a critical look at their own ministries and measure them against bibilcal precriptions and descriptions.
It seems to many (not just at GTY) that with a number of these newer approaches to ministry, their innovations are way out in front of their biblical justifications. They innovate and create, and when challenged, they scramble for biblical justification.
For the good of the saints, we want to see churches examine the Scripture carefully and let a truly biblical ministry philosophy set the paradigm for their ministries. That's what we're driving at.
Thanks again for your thoughtful interaction with the article. Good stuff.
There seems to be an underlying assumption that the preached message must be delivered by the pastor/shepherd/leader of the church. I'm not so sure that is necessarily correct.
The Bible itself is a technological medium that communicates God's message to us. The letters of the apostles were originally the multi-site teaching of the apostles to be circulated multi-site style among the churches of 1st century using the multi-site technology of their time, written correspondence.
I'm sure the multi-site model need to be critiqued and probably acknowledged not to be the ideal, but it seems to me that these kinds of posts and dialogues are a bit of an exercise in finger-pointing at "those other guys" and gathering oneself and fellow like-minded together to to take turns patting each other on the back.
I have been extremely blessed by the ministry of GTY and I am thankful for it. I am especially grateful for the ease of access to the resources via the website and iPhone app. However, the blog has been continually disappointing as I feel it is primarily a "watch-dog" list. Disagree with multisite churches and the elephant room conference and anything else all you want... But shouldn't a blog on GTY (a para church ministry that exists to support local churches) be more about encouraging and virtually "high-fiving" churches that are doing things that the blog author sees as great examples of churches doing things biblically? Wouldn't this support local church goers and encourage them more than reading about how a blog author (on a ministry site that they respect so much and find so helpful) thinks that the local church that they may attend is doing it all wrong? Just a thought...
Nick Ford:
I'm sorry you've found the blog to be "continually disappointing," but I wonder how familiar you are with this blog.
To see if your accusation is true, I went back through the blog archives. Since the start (Nov 2009), we've posted series on the family, finding God's will, mortifying sin, Christian fasting, the doctrine of assurance, gambling, the love of God, and most recently, a series on Christmas.
More critical topics have focused, not on picayune issues, but on significant matters that affect the local church. We've covered the Word-Faith movement, charismatic doctrine, evolution, Rob Bell's book denying hell, the YRR "movement," ministry pragmatism, the Elephant Room (one post), and now multisite (one post).
So, I think it's a gross exaggeration to say the GTY blog is "primarily a watch-dog list." That may be what people allege who don't like the positions we take, but the evidence doesn't support that charge.
The current series will deal with what the Bible says about local church ministry (e.g., leadership, preaching, edification). I acknowledged the many faithful churches that do ministry well in the article above; they'll "high-five" this series. And some churches may find the reminders helpful since, one can assume, we're all striving to be faithful to what the Bible says.
Does that help, Nick?
The letters of the apostles were originally the multi-site teaching of the apostles to be circulated multi-site style...
I think if you tried to begin to supply evidence for this statement you'd come up short. What we have in Scripture in terms of the regular substance of instruction that went on in churches is very little. What we have are the God-breathed sources for truth–the apostolic teaching. But each church throughout the quickly growing Christian world had its own shepherds/elders/teachers who taught and led those individual congregations.
To compare a mere handful of letters written and circulated to modern multi-site methodology is a complete misunderstanding of what those letters were intended to do. With only a couple exceptions, the apostolic letters were not immediately distributed to all the churches. Most of them were written to specific churches or specific individuals for a specific purpose. It was only years later that letters were copied and distributed more freely.
If the church is the pillar and support of the truth (1 Timothy 3:15), then it is absolutely necessary that the church understand Christ's model for the church. Multi-site is a declaration that God's model for the church is not as good as what we can come up with.
In response to anyone who is claiming GTY is the similar to multi-site churches I disagree.
GTY has been nothing short of a blessing, I live in rural Oklahoma and the need for biblical preaching is,well,pretty serious. I go to a local church of about 50 people and love them much but I would never learn from that church what I learn at GTY.
So if GTY had a "multi-site" where I live I'd go because I'm sure I would be surrounded by more theologicaly sound Christians. I'm a Calvinist drowning in a sea of Arminians and am the only Cali I know of within 80 miles(and probably the only person studying theology as a hobby) so it gets lonely.
So I don't know if multi-sites are biblical,and maybe such a thing shouldn't exist but like I said-if GTY had one here I'd go to it without question. - Jason.
As I read the articles and comments coming in I am saddened greatly. It seems if a new work doesn't meet the criteria established by "older" ministries to the "t" they are not biblical and out of order. Also, this arrogant attitude isn't biblical or even close to being helpful for the body of Christ. When folks out here listen and read so called seasoned and long time ministers and their posture on the new activities using modern methods of communication it smacks to me of just a wrong attitude of heart about our fellow brothers and sisters in Christ. We are not speaking about bilical doctrine on these issues at all, but rather methods and using "means" for the work of Christ. All Churches have to go through growth periods and establishing a method and manner whereby they can minister effectively to their flock. To start "hacking them to death" over their methods why not consider praying for the dear folks who being brought into the kingdom and supporting and encouraging in loving manner methods which may help the ministers. It all sounds like "barking dogs" out there today among folks who are in the body of Christ and they are chewing each other up. No wonder folks get disallusioned with all of them. To even consider or state we should not have multi-site Church meetings or plants is absolutely unbiblical and heretical. The Bible teaches that from cover to cover if one reads it. That is what it is all about. Missions, evangelism and establishing new Church conngregations is what we are to do. Also, when we start "lifting up" ONE person or minister and worshipping him we have a very big problem. I know there are in the mega-church movements most are speaking about there are plurality of pastors with usually "one" main teaching Pastor. Even there we have to be careful we do not become "man centered" because of a "gift" the person may have but realize all of the ministers are on a equal footing and we are all there to worship Christ and not lift up some man. This "dictatorial" top-down tyranny is rampant in a lot of places. No ONE man is in total charge from Biblical precepts and accountability of that main minister is very, very necessary. I have lived long enough to know that is absolutely necessary in the body of Christ. I know "large" mega-churches where "one" man makes all of the decisions and no one can get out of "his line" or they are looked down on as if he is the Pope! That isn't Biblical either. Sometimes I think we have more jealousy and pride going on than real concern for the word of God as is being stated. Examine our own hearts and reflect upon our own weaknesses and pray for our own ministry and approach to make sure it is bringing glory to God before we cast so many stones at our brethren. Certainly my statements do not reflect a "exposure" of heresy, or false teachings at all, but God gave the Church body much flexibility in administration means and gifts people to use many "means' to bring His word to the world.
#21 nick,
as for the question: we can, but should we?
want to go to a multi-site church or even pastor one; use technology or don't. here is a good teaching on that subject.
"Are you ready for this? Hum, if you're saved, Spirit-filled, sanctified, submissive, suffering, and saying thanks, you know what God's will is? Whatever you want. You like that? Do whatever you want. Go do whatever you want. You say, "You're kidding." No, I'm not kidding...No, I...you say, "What do you mean? How can...I can't just go do what I want." Yes, you can, because if that's how you're living, guess who's in charge of your wants?..."
love it.
#26 Chuck Tuthill,
I think you totally missed the point.
"saved, Spirit-filled, sanctified, submissive, suffering, and saying thanks" would never negate direct didactic teaching on how a church should function. It would be the fulfillment of it.
Can I recommend Alexander Strauch's book Biblical Eldership?
#27 scott,
no. don't think so. could be wrong.
scripture is silent on the matter of multi site churches and technology. so the matter is one of knowing the will of God which pastor john handles so very well in the sermon concerning knowing God's will.
I have a question about multi-site churches.
My church is planning on becoming multi-site since they have people coming in from all over the county, sometimes driving 45 minutes or more to get there I think. However, rather than do video ministry with one pastor preaching to all the congregations, I believe they're going to have different preaching pastors at each campus. I don't know if they'll all coordinate the sermon series or how that's going to work, but they're "multi-site" in the sense of sharing resources and whatnot. They've described it as a church plant actually.
Would any of you be able to show me where it says in scripture that multi site churches are not the correct way a church should conduct its ministry. Or maybe you could share a link to one of MacArthur's sermons that talks of this sort of issue. I understand that the Bible will not be talking of the same exact examples in this day and age.
Thank you.
Adam Rodriguez & Jeremiah Gilliland:
The situation you've described, Adam, is not the same as the current multisite church initiative. You're describing multiple church plants out of a more mature church, in which each congregation will (or should) have its own preaching pastor/shepherd and its own elder board.
What we're concerned about is an approach that's gaining popularity in which each congregation watches the preaching pastor on a video screen via live feed or DVD. The technology makes it possible, but is that a wise use of technology that will lead to the health of each congregation? We think it'll weaken congregations because it's not a biblical approach to pastoral leadership, shepherding, or preaching.
Jeremiah, that'll be what we look at in the upcoming posts. We're not against technology, obviously. But what we are strongly advocating is an approach that seeks to conform technology, innovation, and accommodation to what is clearly revealed in the Bible, rather than conforming Scripture to our creativity, innovation, and pragmatic experiments.
There seem to be many (and it's not new with the multisite folks) whose ideas are way out in front of biblical justification. We hope to expound the biblical model of local church ministry to help people think it through.
So, stay tuned...
I sort of figured that's what it really was, which was why I didn't see a problem with it. I just wanted your opinion, and your response makes me feel better about it. Thanks! Looking forward to the series!
I believe it is essential to attend a church service, not through video, but through face-to-face worship. It is so important to worship together with other believers. Sadly, a family in our church has decided that they will stop attending church and just listen to Grace To You on Sundays instead. Listening to church on-line is very uplifting and can supplement our learning; but substituting video or internet church for regular church attendance is not what GTY or Christ would have in mind.
My husband and I began attending our church almost 30 years ago. At the time it was fairly small but has grown steadily over the years, I believe, because of the pastors' and elders' faithfulness to the authority of scripture. How to accommodate the growth has always been an issue addressed with prayer. We remodeled, we moved to a larger facility, and a few years ago we began to be multisite. Each campus has its own pastor who presides over the worship service and who shepherds the congregation at his particular campus. Each campus also has its own worship team which leads the music during the worship service. While there is one elder board overseeing all of the campuses, there is a fair amount of autonomy at each campus as far as the programs and ministry. The sermon is received by satellite from the main campus, but like many large churches, the pastor has many weeks a year that he is not in the pulpit and the other campus pastors are frequently the ones who then fill in.
While only God truly knows ones heart, I honestly don't feel our senior pastor is seeking self glory over God's glory. I believe it is truly in the senior pastor's heart (as well as the elders) to be faithful to scripture and to impact the world from our area for Christ by proclaiming His Word and making disciples. I don't understand what is unscriptural about our use of multisites receiving the sermon via satellite, but I believe GTY is very thoughtful about the church being faithful to scripture so I will read with an open mind.
Lorna # 33 - Agreed!
When we moved to the east coast it was quite a chore trying to find a proper church. It's where the land of anything except proper preaching goes. Fortunately after visiting (or visiting with the Pastor) over 40 churches we finally found one we believed we could call 'home'. We have been listening/reading to gty for years as a way to enhance our biblical studies and have been greatly edified by it. I want to hear a sermon almost everyday - so I love having the ability to 'hear' God's Word through different men via the internet, but I would never make the mistake of considering, for instance, John MacArthur or Phil Johnson as 'my' Pastor.
Unfortunately, after some time, it became patently obvious the church we were attending was very legalistic/controlling. We eventually left and realized the 'search' would have to resume. We took advantage of gty even more during that time so we could be fed and I thank the Lord that He had a way for us. But we had a desire to find a local fellowship and understood (I mean it's common sense really) that watching on our laptop/TV wasn't 'attending' a local church. And the Lord led us to another church ;-)
So, either the folks who left your church are searching for a new one and using gty as we did, OR they don't have a desire for fellowship which is indicative of their spiritual immaturity - which would provide an opportunity for individual fellowship and 'bringing along' for someone in your church.
Bottom line, if they are actually saved people desiring to learn through gty, then they will have a desire (or even be obedient to) for fellowship as they mature and have more understanding, which may bring them back, unless they left for another reason altogether that you may not be aware of.
Clearly, gty is not trying to take the place of local fellowship - and if someone uses it that way, then the onus of spiritual irresponsibility is on them alone. However, I believe if they honestly listen and apply what they learn, then they'll be back in a proper church - or help support a church plant.
I can agree whole hearted with the author's article. I have heard time and time again that a preacher is preaching a biblical sermon soley because he has picked a passage from Scripture and preached on it. The problem is the preacher did not grasp the point of the passage and showed little understanding about how to interpret scripture. These preachers boast about having completed 3 courses in homiletics in seminary but still can't preach. The big rage now is having an app for your church. How can a pastor be a shepherd to those he has never met.
All technology was given by God to reach the lost. We should be using every piece of it for the harvest before satan uses it for his purpose. Your own ministry uses social media why wouldnt you want to use it in the church?
I understand the point made about ipods, ipads..ect, and of course the net via or verses Sunday morning church service. But I feel as strongly about FaceBook. I don't FB (I did for a short time and found it to have a sulfur'ry smell about it) and it's not that I expect anyone to follow me on this but I don't feel good about putting my face in a "cess pool" where the bad out weights the good. But everyone is doing it with the same response, "You can use anything for Gods good." But I'm not buying it. In reference to this subject, isn't that the same thing? Please no hateful responses....I by no means mean it that way. The "net" doesn't covey emotions very well.
Computer books are selling and paper books are declining.. I wonder if we stop the paper and use the computer ones.. when it breaks down.. then what.. This age is skyrocketing to technology.. that books will be nothing but a fairy tale.. I would read from a paper book than from a computer Ebook.. Just a thought.. :) God bless.
Paul had miltistie churches. It seems that he oversaw many Churches without cell phones or computers, he was a wonderful God ordained Sheppard of many flocks. And he took his ordination very seriously!
I am a member of a very good Christ centered Church (one building), our Pastor teaches the Gospel of Jesus, in the infallible Word of God each week, maybe a little more than one verse at a time. But if the Lord's Church has the opportunity to traverse with one God Ordained Pastor is it totally wrong? I believe there are people God calls, like the Pastor of my Church and the Pastor of Grace Church John MacArthur, that have a gift above the standard. I feel that sharing God's inspired message by a very gifted teacher is beyond walls.
God Bless
I love Grace to You
I think the answer to this, is another question. Who does this Glorify. God does nothing that cuts Himself out or gives glory to some one else. Everything is to be to the Glory of the Father. Jesus said," I do nothing on my own initiative,but that which my Father has told me" Paraphrasing His words. That's what's so great about Johns teaching here. He does add to or take glory for what trues he teaches us. He teaches the Words of our Lord,to the Glory of our Father. Amen?
multisite? if the idea was good before why is it popular now? How is this different from having a central Baptist or Lutheran or Episcopalian church that has individual churches in various cities, states etc?
The tutorial says the very first churches were multisite? because they sent letters to each other? I thought there were major differences from church to church. Wouldnt past councils have said something like we believe in these things and that churches need to be multisite to properly teach Gods word? the tutorial claims the first churches were multisite then says skip 2000 years to the present. Whoa! I would like to know how this topic was talked about. If there are no case studies in the past 2000 years and its some new thing? forget it
The Church is for glorifying God and making disciples. It's not an amusement park, I think.
Amen, Rudi
Good point.
Trust in Jesus rather than things of the world.
I questioned myself: what would be the reason for me to be a member of a multi-church family. It would be because I "worship" that pastor. This is anohter form of Satan's attack at it's root. I wouldn't want to be a member of the church where the Pastor couldn't hold my hand to pray for me, because sometime I may want more than just my elders support and prayers.
For those who are in multi-church, just go out and buy his book, or listen to him on the radio. If you relly need to see the face of your pastor, go to Youtube. Examine your heart...only God is to be worship.
#46 hau,
"because sometime I may want more than just my elders support and prayers."
are you saying that only the "pastor" is able to pray for you effectively in your church? a "church" culture bias? personal preference?
that would seem to me to be a contradiction of your earlier statement concerning the "worship" of the pastor.
just my thought; nothing would please a true pastor more than to for the people of God to be praying for one another and seeing God work in them without him having any part of it except for preaching the Bible.
#48 Chuck,
Please don't take the phrase out of the context. My point was to highlight the significance of a pastor's role, and the best multi-church pastor could do is to give you support through phone call, email, or video conference.
My pastor has pastored my church for over 40 years. He's the only senior pastor this church has ever had. My pastor has been faithful in leading us to be a debt free church since the late seventies. With a membership of approximately 19,000, we will move into our new worship center in April. It has been paid for since last summer.
We have helped other churches get out of debt and helped plant others churches nearby as well as across the city. We have also licensed many for positions in others churches in and out of state. That's the short list.
Now, we do have two big screens in our current worship center enabling us to see others on stage more easily. Even that isn't the same as being able to look up close and personal. And for a time, we did use a big screen in another part of the building for the overflow. I really didn't like getting stuck in there, I have to admit. That was remedied by getting another pastor that teaches two services while the senior pastor teaches three. You have a pick of two.
The first pastor for the "overflow" has since left with some church members to start a new church in the inner city. And the "overflow" now has a new wonderful teaching pastor. There has never been talk of doing multisite campuses as one very well known pastor in the Houston has now.
This is a Baptist pastor with a very successful church and one whom I like to listen and know his theology is biblically correct. He is genuine. However, I don't understand why successful pastors don't feel part of their success is to equip others to leave and plant new churches in areas they see a need? I have family all over and when I hear someone is shopping for a new church home, I go to the Master's Seminary website and go to the "graduates" link and with zip code or state in hand, find the church closest to my relative's or friend's new home. Why? Because anyone that has chosen the Master's Seminary to get a degree, is someone worth meeting. Why? Because I trust John MacArthur and the staff's desire to equip these people.
I don't think all the pastors that have multisites are control freaks or aspiring to some sort of stardom but it could show a lack of confidence. They don't have to have their own seminary in order to show their confidence. But to me, without any more explanation than what I've heard from pastors of these mega churches, it seems they think there is none in their thousands of members or very huge staff qualified enough to lead as senior pastor. Maybe they think that even with their mentoring of others, members are so clingy, they must have the founding pastor or they won't attend? So. we're back to a lack of confidence again...this time in God's Word. Does he want others to go because of some sort of sentimentality? Or because they know the new pastor has been mentored by a pastor who unashamedly preaches God's Word with boldness? These people need to be cut loose from the apron strings of the founding pastor.
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