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Debates of Oct. 5th, 2010
House of Commons Hansard #77 of the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was victims.
- Question Period
- Privacy Commissioner of Canada
- Protecting Canadians by Ending Sentence Discounts for Multiple Murders Act
- Committees of the House
- Income Tax Act
- Business of the House
- Petitions
- Questions on the Order Paper
- Standing up for Victims of White Collar Crime Act
- Serious Time for the Most Serious Crime Act
- Breast Cancer Awareness
- Small Business
- National Youth Centre Day in Quebec
- Holyrood Community League
- National Family Week
- Lou Gehrig's Disease
- World Sight Day
- World Teachers' Day
- Justice
- Huntington's Disease
- Justice
- Newfoundland and Labrador
- Leader of the Liberal Party of Canada
- National Women's Centres Day
- Family Caregivers
- Employment Insurance
- Government Priorities
- Ministerial Responsibility
- Foreign Takeovers
- Air Canada
- Foreign Takeovers
- Ministerial Responsibility
- Infrastructure
- Afghanistan
- Prime Minister's Office
- Veterans Affairs
- Afghanistan
- International Trade
- Census
- International Trade
- Justice
- National Defence
- Veterans Affairs
- Citizenship and Immigration
- CN Railway
- Taxation
- National Defence
- Census
- Presence in Gallery
- Privilege
- Points of Order
- Privilege
- Serious Time for the Most Serious Crime Act
- Tackling Auto Theft and Property Crime Act
- Lake of the Woods and Rainy River Basins
Serious Time for the Most Serious Crime Act
Government Orders
1:35 p.m.
Keith Martin Esquimalt—Juan de Fuca, BC
Mr. Speaker, my hon. colleague gave an excellent speech.
We can take a look at early interventions that will have the most profound impact upon the trajectory of individual lives. We know right now that what happens in the first five years of a person's life will have a profound impact on his or her life.
Subject a child to violent sexual abuse, improper nutrition, or improper parenting and the trajectory of that child's life will change significantly. Ensure that the child is in a loving, secure environment with proper nutrition, is subjected to a healthy environment, and that child will be the best that he or she can be.
Early learning head start programs have the most profound impact upon the trajectory of that child. When it comes to youth crime, an investment in early childhood intervention will actually decrease youth crime by 50%.
I would like to ask my colleague a question. Does the member not think one of the most powerful things the federal government can do is work with the provinces to ensure that Canadians from coast to coast will have access to early childhood education?
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Government Orders
1:35 p.m.
Scott Simms Bonavista—Gander—Grand Falls—Windsor, NL
Mr. Speaker, my colleague asked a great question. We have touched on many other subjects today. He mentioned a 50% reduction in youth crime where there is an early childhood education component. It is of vital importance. We are now seeing the studies and data that prove to us the benefits of early childhood education, and I mean for the very youngest, even before a child is one year old. The trajectory dictates that with the right amount of education, a person will have a more fulsome and healthier life, and so on and so forth, as my colleague pointed out. The problem is that in this country right now we do not target the investment in this particular type of education.
What bothers me about this is that there is a satchel of money that is provided for day care, but that is not the point. The point is that the federal government does not say that it believes in early childhood education. It just gives a bit of cash and people can do with it as they may.
On the surface, it sounds like it is a wonderful thing that the government gives people money to do with as they want, but we also have to provide some of that money to people who are early childhood educators. They provide such an invaluable service. Since I am not an early childhood educator, I do not know the full benefits of what it is educators provide, but I can say they provide fantastic benefits and one of them is the reduction in crime that my hon. colleague spoke of.
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Government Orders
1:40 p.m.
Keith Martin Esquimalt—Juan de Fuca, BC
Mr. Speaker, as a follow up to my colleague's response, fetal alcohol spectrum disorder is the leading cause of preventable brain damage in neonates. The fact is it is entirely preventable.
The federal government believes that in matters of health, the province is the lead manager, and it is correct, but nothing precludes the federal government from using its convening power and its financial levers to work with the provinces to develop innovations in health care that would improve the health of our citizens. Because these problems are transboundary, nothing precludes the federal government from doing this. We desperately need this type of leadership to deal with problems like FASD.
If FASD is the leading cause of preventable brain damage in children, does my colleague not think it is crucially important for the federal government to use its power, work with the provinces and implement best practices?
I have worked in jails as a guard and as a physician. The average IQ of somebody with FASD is 67. How on earth are people with an IQ of 67 able to integrate, engage and be productive members of society? They cannot.
As a matter of humanity and being progressive in our country to deal with a fundamental issue that is so trying and difficult for those who work in the judicial system and the medical system, does my colleague not think that the federal government should work with the provinces to implement best practices in the prevention of FASD?
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Government Orders
1:40 p.m.
Scott Simms Bonavista—Gander—Grand Falls—Windsor, NL
Mr. Speaker, after that speech I think my colleague should be one of the ones to lead the charge. I certainly put the compassionate argument. I will go back to what I said in my speech. One of the benefits of being a member of Parliament is that we have access to resources and people who work within the industry, people who are experts, people who know more than we do. Believe it or not, some of us actually believe there are others out there who know a lot more than we do. Because of the member's personal experience, he is able to bring the matter of FASD into this House and certainly give it the full debate it deserves. That goes back to the idea of the faint hope clause.
It is an incredible way to debate this issue through the measures he mentioned. The convening measure, the first ministers conference, is certainly something that can bring the whole country together, not to be divisive but to lift the bar on how we can address rehabilitation for people who commit the serious crimes and for people who are victims of FASD, and the member talked about IQs.
That being said, the federal government has that power through the Canada health and social transfer. It can become one of the driving agents behind this. There is nothing wrong with that, because by being in the driver's seat on this particular issue, let us face it, we also safeguard the five principles of health care across the country, which is universal to all despite in which territory or province people live.
I commend my colleague for bringing this up. I think that is all part of the debate within this House. Sometimes we do not give these issues the debate they deserve. It becomes a series of sound bites and cute little slogans that we use from time to time to gain ourselves momentum into the next election. Unfortunately, that may be what I would call the negative aspect of a minority Parliament, if indeed we want to use that. However, there are positives of a minority Parliament and the positives include fulsome debate in order to get something passed. Otherwise, if we do not have the numbers, we have to have honest debate.
Am I convinced that we are using this House in a situation like Bill S-6, the faint hope clause, which was formerly Bill C-36, and the idea of rehabilitation, or protecting victims or allowing victims to receive the justice they so desperately deserve? We need within this Parliament to give these people the voice that they deserve. If we surround it with sound bites and politics and divisiveness, which we see normally on the 10 o'clock news, then they become the ones to whom we have given short shrift. That is the unfortunate part of this.
I implore my colleagues, this is the big reason that I want to send this bill to committee, so that we can discuss these issues. Unfortunately, we did not have that chance before, but now we do.
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1:45 p.m.
James Lunney Nanaimo—Alberni, BC
Mr. Speaker, since the debate has gone all the way from the faint hope clause to fetal alcohol spectrum disorder, I want to ask the member a question about that. Indeed, we are all concerned about fetal alcohol spectrum disorder. However, recent evidence has shown that a simple folic acid supplement helps to reduce the methanol content that is also in the alcohol products, which seems to be the main problem contributing to fetal alcohol spectrum disorder.
Would the member therefore recommend that Canadians at risk and people in communities where they are at risk take a folic acid supplement to mitigate that risk and to help prevent that syndrome from happening in the first place?
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1:45 p.m.
Scott Simms Bonavista—Gander—Grand Falls—Windsor, NL
Mr. Speaker, I am not really aware of that part of FASD and how to treat it in that particular sense. Quite frankly, as I said earlier, I am just not qualified to say that at this point. The member has brought up a good point. I suggest that he press this point even further within this House. If it is okay with him, I would like for him to send me the information that he is speaking of because I think it is a valid point.
That being said, in the spirit of providing a decent debate within this House, I want to thank the member for bringing that up. I can guarantee, thanks to Google, that I am going to try to figure out what it is he is talking about. I think that will add to the debate of FASD as to how we can reduce it, especially in the most vulnerable societies.
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1:45 p.m.
Don Davies Vancouver Kingsway, BC
Mr. Speaker, it is an honour for me to stand and speak on behalf of my party and the constituents of Vancouver Kingsway to this important bill, Bill S-6, An Act to amend the Criminal Code and another Act, sub nomine, serious time for the most serious crime act.
Bill S-6 amends provisions in the Criminal Code regarding the right of persons convicted of murder or high treason to apply for early parole. This is done through the elimination of the so-called faint hope clause as it is commonly known by which those given a life sentence for murder or high treason could apply for parole after serving 15 years of their sentence.
A similar predecessor bill, Bill C-36, was introduced during the second session of this Parliament but did not become law before that session ended when the current government prorogued Parliament at the end of 2009.
It is important when we discuss profound issues, particularly ones that involve critical issues of crime and punishment and proper approaches to our carceral system, to have a very sound understanding of the structure and facts. I will spend a little time reviewing what the current law is.
Section 745.6 of the Criminal Code, known as the faint hope clause, provides offenders serving a sentence for high treason or murder with the possibility of applying for parole after having served 15 years when the sentence that they have been imprisoned for amounts to life without eligibility for parole for more than 15 years.
Offenders convicted of first degree murder receive life imprisonment as a minimum sentence with the earliest parole eligibility date set by law at 25 years. For offenders convicted of second degree murder, a mandatory sentence of life imprisonment is also imposed with the judge being able to set parole eligibility at some point between 10 and 25 years. Judges have that discretion in our Canadian courts.
Those serving a life sentence can be released from prison only if granted parole by the National Parole Board. Unlike most inmates who are serving a sentence of a fixed link, for instance two, five or ten years, lifers are not entitled to statutory release.
If granted parole, those convicted of a life sentence remain subject for the rest of their lives to the conditions of parole under the supervision of a Correctional Service Canada parole officer.
One thing that is important to point out is that in this country, those who are given a life sentence do have a life sentence. That sentence is and will be applied to them for the rest of their natural lives. The question is whether or not and when they will be permitted to serve that sentence in the community as opposed to being incarcerated.
Parole may always be revoked and offenders returned to prison at any time if they violate the conditions of parole or if they commit a new offence. Of course, not all people who have been given a life sentence are granted parole. Some offenders are never released on parole because the risk of their reoffending is too great and that is appropriately so.
During the years following its initial introduction in 1976 the faint hope provision underwent a number of amendments so that now the criteria for the possible release on parole of someone serving a life sentence include the following. The inmate must have served at least 15 years of his or her sentence. An inmate who has been convicted of more than one murder where at least one of the murders was committed after January 9, 1997, which was when certain amendments came into force, may not apply for a review of his or her parole ineligibility period. To seek a reduction in the number of years of imprisonment without eligibility for parole, the offender must apply to the chief justice of the province or territory in which his or her conviction took place.
The chief justice or superior court judge designated by the chief justice must first determine whether the applicant has shown that there is a reasonable prospect that the application for review will succeed. This assessment is based on the following criteria: the character of the applicant; the applicant's conduct while serving his or her sentence; the nature of the offence for which the offender was convicted; any information provided by a victim at the time of the imposition of the sentence or at the time of the hearing under this section; and any other matter that the judge considers relevant to the circumstance.
If the application for early parole is dismissed for lack of a reasonable prospect of success, the chief justice or judge may set a time for another application not earlier than two years after the dismissal, or he or she may declare that the inmate will never be entitled to make another application.
On the other hand, if the chief justice or judge determines that the application has a reasonable prospect of success, a judge will be assigned to hear the matter with a jury. In determining whether the period of parole ineligibility should be reduced, the jury should consider and does consider the five criteria I just mentioned. The jury determination to reduce the parole ineligibility period must also be unanimous.
The victims of the offender's crime may provide information either orally or in writing, or in any other manner that the judge considers appropriate.
If the application is dismissed, the jury may, by a two-thirds majority, either set a time again not earlier than two years after the determination when the inmate may make another application, or it may decide that the inmate will not be entitled to make any further applications. Furthermore, if the jury determines that the number of years of imprisonment without eligibility for parole ought to be reduced, then a two-thirds majority of that jury may substitute a lesser number of years of imprisonment without eligibility for parole than the number then applicable. The number of years without eligibility for parole that they may assign can range from 15 to 24 years.
After all that extensive process, once permission to apply for early parole has been granted, the inmate must apply to the National Parole Board to obtain parole. Whether and when the inmate is released is decided solely by the board based on a risk assessment, with the protection of the public as the foremost consideration. Board members must also be satisfied that the offender will follow specific conditions, which may include restrictions of movement, participation in treatment programs and prohibitions on associating with certain people, such as victims, children and convicted criminals and the like.
A faint hope clause review is not a forum for a retrial of the original offence, nor is it a parole hearing. A favourable decision by the judge and the jury simply advances the date upon which an offender will be eligible to apply for parole.
This section, of course, has been considered by the sharpest legal minds of our country, the Supreme Court of Canada. The Supreme Court of Canada has stated that the purpose of this review procedure is to re-examine a judicial decision in light of changes that have occurred in the applicant's situation since the time of sentencing that may justify lessening the parole ineligibility period.
Section 745.6 of the Criminal Code gives the jury broad discretionary power to consider any matter governing the offender's situation, and the Supreme Court has provided guidelines for the judicious exercise of that discretionary power. The jury, for instance, must consider only the applicant's case and must not try the cases of other inmates who may have committed offences after being released on parole. The court has also stated that it is not the jury's role to determine whether the existing system of parole is effective.
The faint hope clause was added to the Criminal Code in 1976 in the hope that it would provide an incentive for long-term offenders to rehabilitate themselves and therefore afford more protection to prison guards, as well as fundamentally achieve greater justice in our country. The provision is also said to represent Parliament's awareness of how long other countries imprison persons convicted of murder before allowing them to apply for parole. For example, Australia, Belgium, Denmark, England, New Zealand, Scotland and Switzerland keep persons convicted of murder in prison for an average of 15 years before they may be paroled.
The very first judicial review hearing under the faint hope clause was held in 1987. Here are some statistics that the House might find instructive.
As of April 12, 2009, 991 offenders had been deemed eligible to apply for a judicial review. Court decisions have been rendered in 173 cases, and 143 inmates have been declared eligible to apply for earlier parole. Of these, 130 were granted parole, representing just over 13% of those who had been deemed eligible to apply for a review of their parole dates.
I spoke about comparing Canada to other countries, and there are some other instructive facts that would be helpful for parliamentarians as we consider this difficult matter.
In 1999, an international comparison of the average time served in custody by an offender given a life sentence for first degree murder showed that the average time served in Canada is 28.4 years. Moreover, that is greater than in all countries surveyed, including the United States, with the exception of offenders in that country who serve life sentences without parole.
Here is the average time spent in custody by offenders convicted of first degree murder: New Zealand, 11 years; Scotland, 11.2 years; Sweden, 12 years; Belgium, 12.7 years; Australia, 14.8 years; United States for life sentence with parole, 18.5 years; and United States for life sentence without parole, 29 years. Once again, Canadian inmates convicted of first degree murder served 28.4 years.
I know the government is fond of saying where Canada sits on the world stage. It uses those facts when it thinks they are helpful. Let us then take a look at this fact: Canada keeps its first degree murderers in prison longer than every country on earth except for the United States.
Those who favour the retention of the faint hope clause have a number of arguments. They argue that judges and juries who consider whether to reduce the parole ineligibility period often take into consideration the circumstances that have led criminals down the wrong path, factors like poverty, fetal alcohol syndrome, low cognition, and other factors. They also recognize that mistakes can be made in court rooms from time to time resulting in innocent people being convicted.
Those who commit murder do deserve to be treated severely. Despite the government's constant attempt to try to simplify any argument other than its own or its attempt to make up straw person arguments that are easy to beat up, let it be said that there is no parliamentarian in this House who does not think that someone convicted of first degree murder ought to be treated severely. Of course they should. Anybody suggesting that any parliamentarian thinks otherwise is simply trying to mislead the Canadian public.
However while acknowledging that, people who favour retaining this section believe that offenders should not necessarily be utterly robbed of all hope, since one of the aims of punishment is rehabilitation. They believe, in other words, that justice must be tempered with mercy.
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Government Orders
1:55 p.m.
The Deputy Speaker Andrew Scheer
The hon. member still has eight minutes left to conclude his remarks. As it is just about 2 o'clock, we will start with statements by members, and the hon. member will have the floor after question period.
Breast Cancer Awareness
Statements By Members
1:55 p.m.
Patrick Brown Barrie, ON
Mr. Speaker, the Canadian Breast Cancer Network is urging all parliamentarians to recognize October 13 as the first national metastatic breast cancer awareness day. As part of this initiative, the Canadian Breast Cancer Network hosted a metastatic breast cancer awareness event on Parliament Hill today.
Metastatic breast cancer is an advanced breast cancer that appears in other parts of the body. An estimated 30% of women globally who are first diagnosed with earlier stages of breast cancer develop it. Women who receive this diagnosis often feel isolated, without specialized information, proper psychological support or timely access to treatment.
I encourage my colleagues to support the efforts of the Canadian Breast Cancer Network and recognize October 13 as metastatic breast cancer awareness day in Canada.
May I also say how proud I was of the 2,109 Barrie residents who attended the annual CIBC Run for the Cure in support of breast cancer research this past Sunday. This year's run raised $319,000. Congratulations to everyone involved.
National Youth Centre Day in Quebec
Statements By Members
2 p.m.
Nicolas Dufour Repentigny, QC
Mr. Speaker, last Saturday marked the 13th annual Journée nationale des maisons de jeunes du Québec. The event was set up in 1997 at the initiative of young people between the ages of 12 and 18 who wanted to raise awareness of youth centres, where they get together.
On the first Saturday of October each year, thousands of young people get busy promoting the way they see society today. Across Quebec, 175 youth centres opened their doors to the community to demystify urban legends about them. Visitors could see for themselves that these places are important to many young people, because they bring them out of isolation, help integrate them into society and promote their independence. In short, the centres make young people responsible citizens.
I myself attended open houses at several youth centres in my riding. I hope that in my own way, I helped people see our youth in a new light, as active, engaged individuals.
Holyrood Community League
Statements By Members
2 p.m.
Linda Duncan Edmonton Strathcona, AB
Mr. Speaker, Edmonton's community leagues have long served our families and neighbourhoods, running children's sports programs and providing a voice for community concerns. Recently, the Edmonton—Strathcona leagues have been providing clear leadership in greening their parks, play spaces and facilities to reduce their environmental footprint.
One great example is the Holyrood community green space project, beginning with a small naturescape in their elementary school. Buoyed by their success, they launched a project to transform their neighbourhood park into a vibrant community hub. It includes a playground, naturalized landscape and picnic area. Coming soon will be a community garden, systems to capture rainwater and an energy retrofitted community hall.
Even more extraordinary is their effort to consider the health and wellness of senior and disabled residents. Holyrood has actively partnered with Extendicare Holyrood, the Greater Edmonton Foundation and the South East Edmonton Seniors Association to design and deliver recreation programs for seniors.
Hats off to Holyrood and its partners.
National Family Week
Statements By Members
2 p.m.
Candice Bergen Portage—Lisgar, MB
Mr. Speaker, I rise today to recognize National Family Week.
Canadian families are diverse and come in all shapes and sizes. Over the years, we have seen a dramatic shift in what the typical family looks like, but one common goal all families share is the desire to provide love and care and see the health and well-being of each family member flourish.
During our greatest challenges and our greatest successes in life, so many times our greatest strength comes from our family. Indeed, all of us in this House depend on the support of our families to do our job here each day.
Let us never forgot the importance of families in Canada and the pivotal role they play in our society. There is no replacement for the stability that families provide, and we must do all we can to support them.
I would like to invite all members to join us in celebrating the family at a reception after question period.
Lou Gehrig's Disease
Statements By Members
2:05 p.m.
Lise Zarac LaSalle—Émard, QC
Mr. Speaker, ALS, also known as Lou Gehrig's disease, is the most common cause of neurological death in Canada. About 3,000 Canadians over age 18 currently live with ALS and 80% die within two to five years. Some people die within a few months and 10% of those affected may live 10 years or more.
ALS affects the whole family. People living with ALS need expensive equipment and care, and 90% of care is provided by family members. ALS has a huge impact on informal caregivers' physical, emotional and financial resources.
This disease has touched us here in the House. Richard Wackid, the Liberal whip's chief of staff, succumbed to this terrible disease last year.
Our society is afflicted by so many of these diseases. Whether it is ALS, respiratory diseases or breast cancer, we must as Canadians do everything that we can to alleviate the suffering by providing comfort and support, not only to those who are afflicted but also to those who provide care for them.
World Sight Day
Statements By Members
October 5th, 2010 / 2:05 p.m.
Paul Calandra Oak Ridges—Markham, ON
Mr. Speaker, I am proud to stand in the House today to welcome members of Vision 2020 Canada who are here with us to celebrate and bring awareness to World Sight Day 2010.
World Sight Day is an international day of awareness to focus attention on the global issues of avoidable blindness and visual impairment. This year's theme is "Countdown to 2020".
Vision 2020 Canada will mark both the successes and the work that still needs to be done in the ambition to eliminate avoidable blindness across the globe by 2020.
Vision 2020 is the global initiative for the elimination of avoidable blindness, a joint program with the World Health Organization and the International Agency for the Prevention of Blindness with an international membership of NGOs, professional associations, eye care institutions and corporations.
The many successes of Vision 2020: The Right to Sight, have been achieved through a unique cross-sector collaboration which enables public, private and not for profit interests to work together helping people all over the world to see.


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Monday, December 3, 2012
Rolls-Royce to Sustain V-22 Engines
The U.S. Navy has extended an existing contract with Rolls-Royce covering engine sustainment services on the Bell-Boeing V-22's AE1007C engines. The $52.3-million extension includes low power repairs, turboshaft and fleet site support for V-22s in operation with the U.S. Marine Corps and Air Force. Completion is scheduled for November 2013.
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Here's how RW members rated this race in the past (25 votes).
In short: Hellrunner up North is back to it's best this yearIn full: Having done this race for the past 4 years, this was without doubt the best yet. Cold, very muddy, extremely wet, hills of hell, bog of doom, and the new lake crossing make this a truly memorable race. The atmosphere was brilliant, people helping each other on hard sections and having a laugh as well. Doing it dressed as a Squirrel certainly made it harder, but very happy with my time, more people should do this in fancy dress! i will be back next year 100%. I think this is my favourite race of all timeDate of review: November 14, 2012
In short: First off road race and loved it - cold, wet muddy and funDate of review: November 6, 2012
In short: Muddy, wet, cold, tough, fun fun funDate of review: November 6, 2012
In short: I've never felt such a carnival atmosphere at the start of a race and sense of achievement at the end...but not to be underestimated!In full: Having competed in 11 half marathons I felt this would be quite easy...how wrong can you be! Without question the hardest run I've ever done. Actually ended up visiting the ambulance at one point but still completed it.Could have done without the lake bit which took 25 mins for us to get through as other's have said. All in all I've never felt such a carnival atmosphere at the start of a race and sense of achievement at the end...but not to be underestimated! Date of review: November 6, 2012
In short: Fantastic but tough event.Date of review: November 5, 2012
In short: Awesome!In full: This was my first event of any kind, and I loved every minute of it...It was everything I had expected and so much more, it was a test of mind body and soul.After the first half I was wondering if the Hell bit was just a marketing gimmick - in fact I heard a lady say that she wasnt muddy enough.How wrong I was, it got very interesting indeed!The lake was a surprise but as other reviews have said, you didnt have to stand in it if you ddidnt want to, but the untrodden route was the risk you took - it was chest deep in parts!yes it was freezing, and yes you couldnt feel anything below the waist, but come on, head down dig in and you soon warm up again. You signed up for a tough trail run in November!I will be definitely be doing it next year, and many other inbetween - suggestions welcome!Wouldnt of minded a brew at the end though, or did I miss that?Date of review: November 5, 2012
In short: nailsIn full: First timer on this type of event and I loved it. Never been so cold, filthy, tired and chuffed after a 'run'. An absolute challenge...hills, trails, mud, hills, water, hills, mud, slips, water, trips, mud, hills, cuts, bruises, cramp, water, mud, swearing, smiles, laughs and a sense of proper achievement at the end.Organisation was pretty spot on. The goody bag, tshirt and medal were cracking (as a 'larger' runner, this is the first tech T that fitted, they actually had XXL sizes!!!)Only a couple of suggestions to make….I will echo some concerns at the 200\300 meter water crossing. Although I was happy to try and push on through, the number of people bunched and static meant it still took me nearly 20 minutes to get to the other side. Would have made sense to stagger people going in or offer a shorter alternative for those that struggled.Also, could do with an additional tent (near the baggage drop?) for changing after the run. Considering most parking was at least a 10 minute walk away I was starting to shut down….had to change in the mens porta-loo as I would have really struggled to make the car.Other than that a quite brilliant event.Now, I did say I loved it…..but enough to do it next year?....we'll see.Date of review: November 5, 2012
In short: AwesomeIn full: Really was a superb race, very well organised and a fantastic atmosphere.This was my first time doing Hellrunner, so can't compare to other years, but I have to take my hat off to the organisers, the route was brilliant they had used all the toughest bits of the forest, hills you needed to scramble up, streams to run through, the thickest stinkyest bogs to get stuck in a lake to cross, everyone was knackered, you would really struggle to find a training route that good.I can understand what people were saying about the lake, it was freezing; 2000+ people crossed it, so I think any danger was only perceived and a bit of mild panic added to the atmosphere; it was a nice feature that I hope stays for future years, it is supposed to be hell after all :)Date of review: November 5, 2012
In short: Cold, wet, and utterly brilliant In full: This was my first hell runner and I'm almost certain I'll be taking part again next year.For the first 2 or 3 miles we had the chance to admire the views of the countryside while winding uphill on pretty even terrain. There was a queue right from the start (I was a few hundred from the front) and at times people were walking rather than jogging, but after a while the crowd thinned out and I had a chance to stretch my legs a bit. After passing the start line again (and seeing eager Second-Wavers waiting to get going) I was wondering what all the fuss was about... but I had been lured into a false sense of security because from that point on things became gradually more gruelling. I can't remember at what point I thought "why am I doing this?", possibly scrambling up the hills of hell but most certainly by the time I reached the lake. This was the one aspect which I thought could actually be dangerous. I was one of the majority who stayed on the underwater ridge to keep the water at around waist height (for me anyway) and I must have been in there for at least 15 minutes, at times not moving at all. In short it was bloody freezing! After that my legs felt like they were packing in, but after a few minutes of jogging they warmed up again and my toes went from completely numb to feeling like I had a couple of radiators in my shoes before settling on mild throbbing.The final bog of doom wouldn't be that challenging by itself but I was so knackered by the time I reached it it was as much as I could do to remain vertical. After limping around the last loop of the fun run track I managed a "sprint" finish, and had never been so happy in my life to be handed a milkshake. My shoes are still in a bin bag and after 3 showers my feet have retained a brownish hue, but the sense of achievement has lingered. Overall it was very well organised. I agree with some of the other comments regarding safety in the lake. If anyone got into serious trouble they would have had help for sure, but that help would have come from a few dozen borderline-hypothermia cases rather than fresh and warm stewards. If they can sort that aspect out I think it'll be just about perfect. If such an ordeal can ever be called perfect.For the record, 33 hours after finishing I'm still knackered!Date of review: November 4, 2012
In short: Great event, but some extra organising neededIn full: First time I have tackled anything like this. Great challenge and fun in the most part, but there were some issues.Queuing to tackle bogs was a real problem, but not as big a problem as standing in waist deep, freezing cold water for 20 minutes. It ruined my whole race and many others.As soon as I got out I couldn't feel my legs and they were completely cramped up. I managed another half mile or so and then my calf went completely and I had to stop. Was attended to by brilliant medical staff and was able to walk the last couple of miles to the finish.After the water there were people who seemed to be being treated for hypothermic symptoms and when I was with the medical staff they were getting reports through and didn't seem happy with the situation.It ruined my race and many others. Before that point it was really fun and challenging.Steep, almost sheer ascents up muddy inclines were very intimidating, but great fun to tackle and trying to haul yourself out of thick bog was a nice change to your standard run.I would do it again, but I would hope the water issue would be dealt with. I know its hell runners, but nobody should be standing in waist deep water in November for 20 minutes or more.Date of review: November 4, 2012
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I heard a rumor (saw it in only one magazine) that Browning was going to re-introduce a version of the A-5 this spring (March). Haven't seen or heard a thing since a little over 10 months ago. Anybody know anything?????
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Saw and held one at the Pheasants Forever expo in Kansas City. Looks and feels like a sweet gun. The browning rep made it sound like it will be coming out in the fall. Wish I could afford one.
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On Browning's website. In their print catalog.
12 gauge, 3", 28" or 30" barrel.
Sweet, sweet, steel........If you havent already guessed, YEP, I want one.
or their interactive site-
check it out....
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I saw it on the browning website. I would love to have one but I don't think I can sweet talk my wife into another one since I have a browning gold now.
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Whats the big difference(s) between the A-5 and the Maxus?
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The Humpback IS coming back, like most said its going to be this fall. I Just bought the 6.5mm Creedmoor (Savage). If I spend another $1.5k on a gun my wife will divorce me. .......wait.....................................Looks like im going to be single again! LOL!
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Anything recent on the new Browning A5? Anyone pick one up/shoot one yet? What about sightings in stores....tough choice Remington Versa Max or wait a while longer for a Browning.
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I saw it not too long ago in the new browning catalog. Looks SWEET!!! I had one when I first started duck hunting even back then I had to save my money to buy one that was used. Cant say enough good things about it.
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I got one before teal season in brakeup that a 5 is a real sweeeeet gun you get on the ducks quick
with it i have a sbe 2 but i like the a 5 better
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Skip to comments.Man Kills Self In Front Of Children At Bellevue [WA] Gun-Safety Class
Posted on 03/14/2013 1:33:30 PM PDT by zeestephen
A man describing himself as a witness to the shooting said the dead man stood in front of more than a dozen people participating in the class and ended his life.
(Excerpt) Read more at komonews.com ...
According to the business website, the gun range offered an entry-level handgun course the day of the shooting.
Participants paid $75 for three hours of instruction meant to teach students how to load and use pistols and revolvers.
Hey man nice shot
What an absolutely selfish ass. I feel for his family and the folks in that class.
Well, at least the kids will know what a gun will do to you from first-hand experience.
Guess he failed the course.
Jeremy spoke in class today.
Very sad... what's also sad is the gun-grabbing liberals are going to have a field day with it.
I don't think I'd trust this witness...
What is with people these days? It almost is seeming like they are acting like some kind of mindless zombies offing others then themselves. No explination. Crazy.
For your Washington state ping list.
Ya, don't people usually fall down?
Hey kids, don't try this at home!
Kind of reminiscent of the 'cartoon' with the 'instructor' for a team of prospective Suicide Bombers:
While standing there, with a back pack on and sticks of dynamite showing, he is holding the detonator device and says:
"Now Pay Attention!
I am only going to show you this once".
The shooter in this case sure went out of his way to 'prove a point' and, like the one poster says, at least the kids could see up front what happens when you 'point and pull'.
Yep - and will no doubt cause huge problems for one of the few decent indoor ranges in the area.
The man is 50 year old Brian Perry.
There is one Brian Perry in Bellvue, WA who is an interior/exterior painter.
Dem or Pubbie?
Okay kids, Don't do as Brian just did.
We'll find out in the next election.
Funny but evil.
Sad too.
This is the first one of these I've heard of in front of a class, but there's been enough at ranges that rent guns, that many won't rent to someone alone, they have to be with another person.
"What is with people these days? It almost is seeming like they are acting like some kind of mindless zombies offing others then themselves. No explanation."
Many drug company commercials list "thoughts of suicide" as a side effect.
Think they'd sell product or stock if they listed side effects as "thoughts of 'murder and' suicide"?
You beat me to it.
This is the first one of these Ive heard of in front of a class, but theres been enough at ranges that rent guns, that many wont rent to someone alone, they have to be with another person.
On the assumption that one wouldn't bring one's friend to one's suicide. I can see an angry man or woman bringing the spouse/friend just to get them back. Some people are just that crazy/mean/evil.
Don't know.
I'm looking for the possibility that this man was some kind of gun grabbing nut who was trying to make a point.
Or maybe he was just disturbed (I know, same thing)
Yes they are.
Another member of the Bud Dwyer fan club.
Im looking for the possibility that this man was some kind of gun grabbing nut who was trying to make a point.
It is something to consider. People world wide kill themselves to make a policial point.
Nice Pearl Jam reference. :0)
Guess he failed the course.
Hope he paid in cash.
In the words of Charlie Manson,..."Used to be a time when crazy meant something. Now everybody's crazy." :)
So, he was dead before he shot himself?........
Okay...it took me a second to get that, well played!
I don't blame the witness. I blame the "reporter".
I blame the editor.......if there is one.......
I would be willing to bet that he used a Range Rental Gun. If you would have had access to a gun, I think he might have committed this cowardly act prior to his training class. Probably in front of a crowd also. Would be interesting to know. I know that some employee's of indoor ranges that are basically unsupervised get a little nervous when a questionable person with apparently NO or very little knowledge of what gun (caliber - ammo - eyes and ears) they want to rent for their paper poking. Also, I have been told by these peeps that along with these attributes, they really work up a sweat when this type of gun renter says that a;though he doesn't own a gun, he brought his own target.
He might have been a DEA agent.
HA! I was wondering when the "hold ma beer" comment would show up!
Another arrogant self killing in front of a group, so he'll go out in glory, in the newspaper and on tv. Whata stupid individual.
Don't care what their circumstance was, they were petty selfish asses who abused those who cared for them for the rest of their lives.
As Ken Hamlin used to do the toilet flush audio when a scumbag was executed, Good riddance.
He didn't want to wait the 2 weeks or perhaps wouldn't have passed the background check. There's more to this story.
My sympathies lie with those, through no fault of their own, who had to witness that.
DEA agent?
no refunds.
always wear your eye protection.
Is that clip for real, or is it part of some comedy?
Paint fumes can really fry your brain.
I couldn't agree more with you!
My late wife battled mightily for 11 years to beat back the tumors that would grow around her brain stem. The doctors would operate, radiate and 18 months later we did the whole routine again. Each operation did more collateral damage so her quality of life towards the end really sucked.
Then you have asshats like this guy that off's himself in front of people. No sympathy, none, zero, nada.
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I do a lot of volunteer work with kids between the ages of 12-16. You would be amazed at how little they know about the Beatles and how many of them don't know who Paul McCartney is?? I always think the Beatles will be like Gershwin always out there - but after this generation x (And i'm 2nd generation cause i was born after Pepper) fades - i think you will see a different history on the Beatles impact.
There's a girl in the office who is 25 and she didn't know who George Harrison is and didn't know any Beatles records and few Beatles songs. A lot of people from NYC who are African-American or Latin don't have the same 2nd or third generation connection to the Beatles.
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Another great SAFE day of racing.
I appreciate the effort Mike and the other flagman put forth. I know it is not easy dealing with all of the issues that go on during a race, but we could not race without you guys.
It was hot and we know you are not paid much. It is for the love of racing and GSKA.
I take my hat off and applaud each of you. THANK YOU for all you do for the racers at GSKA.
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I second that! Thanks to all the workers, board members, and everyone else that makes GSKA racing possible!
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i third that!! and troy 4ths it too!! in all seriousness, cooler head MUST prevail. there are more kids there racing and with their families and they do not need to have to witness some of the events of today. please for those who read this do all you can to keep this a fun event in the lives of the young and old. please..
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I'd like to thank everyone that came to: race, pit crew, cook, tend the corners, try to keep everything cool (the race director) and watch. Without everyone that comes out for race day, we would not have this organization! A special thanks goes out to all that "help" fellow karters in need, whether it's advice, a nut or bolt. or an entire engine,,,,,,, you all are the BEST!
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in all seriousness, cooler head MUST prevail. there are more kids there racing and with their families and they do not need to have to witness some of the events of today. please for those who read this do all you can to keep this a fun event in the lives of the young and old. please..
Agreed... I know "that's racin", but from what I've seen in the last year and a half, that's not what GSKA is about!
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Saying this as a newcomer to the sport and to the club/ track, I was a little taken back about a couple of incidents I witnessed.
I'll say too, I don't know any of the parties involved, so this is no way intended as a personal attack on anyone.
I can understand that in the heat of the moment "crap happens" but when your screaming at someone in the middle of the track, in front of dozens of very young kids, its time to take a step back and cool off.
There is no excuse for that and sets a VERY bad example for other parents that might be just getting their kid into the sport, and for the kids themselves.
I'm a very calm and easy going dude, but rest assured if that were my kid you were talking to like that, we'd be having words at your race trailer.
Here's a thought: If you have years and years of race experience, maybe teach people the correct line, correct passing technique, or correct line defense instead of screaming at them that they "need to learn how to race"
That's what some people are there to do. Learn how to race.
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Kris, my son was racing in the Yamaha class Saturday. Fortunately David was not caught up in the fray.
This is our second year and I can tell you it was an isolated incident. Our experience has been extremely positive.
GSKA is very family oriented and I can wholeheartedly endorse it for families.
What you will see on any race day is anyone willing to help each other out. We would not still be racing if everyone had not helped us.
I am confident it was an anomaly. There are too many good people involved to let that behavior continue.
Do not let an isolated incident stand between you and an excellent experience for you and your family.
Please feel free to pm me or let any of us know if we can help you move forward.
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I was not there, the first race I missed this year, but I am appalled by the behavior exhibited by certain racers on 7/26/14, as reported and caught on video by several trusted sources who were at the trac.
This is NOT the image I want to project for karting in general or the GSKA in particular. Especially for the many new, very young racers who have been attending.
I apologize for all who had to witness this, and thank all 99.9% who kept calm, cool and collected and handled the situation.
I am asking that the Board address this and incidents like this. I will have something to say about it at our next drivers meeting.
Please everyone be there. c
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It sure seemed to me that things ran like clockwork on Saturday, even better than usual. No vacation hangover for our dedicated crew! Great job guys!
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i agree with each statement above. i would not like to see anyone take away a negative from their experience at the track or with GSKA as a whole.
this being my Sons first year karting and mine as a pit crew dad, i have felt from the very beginning that we found a great place to enjoy doing something together as father and son. from the first person i talked to at the track through this last race, i can only say that each and everyone has been incredibly friendly welcoming us and sharing their experiences/ knowledge. i know i can trust everyone as
friends. and talk about helpful! holy mackerel, each time i've had an issue, be it as minor as how much air to put in a tire to swapping out an engine, i've not had to ask more than once nor even had to ask at all, everyone has gone WAY beyond the call of duty to help. anyone there has seen me struggle being the pit guy because i had zero.. zip nada experience with karting. each trip home i tell my son 'what a great bunch of folks.' he immediately agrees and we thank our Lord for this experience.
so, please anyone reading this post please remember that what happened on Saturday was the only time that has happened. oh yes there have been many other spinouts and bumps but each time folks take it on the cheek and go on racing. and when they are finished, they enjoy talking about what happened and in most cases they help each other. THIS IS A HUGE FAMILY to me. we are all seekers of the same, fun and fellowship. we don't start the racing without a prayer and the national anthem so we begin grounded in the best that can be.
my thanks to GSKA staff.. can't say enough about them and GSKA. there is no place like home.
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As I mentioned in my previous blog post, I was traveling with Under Secretary Judith McHale to highlight the role young people are playing in shaping the future of Africa and the world, find ways to work with governments and citizens to partner with this generation to create positive change, and continue the momentum started by last summer's Forum for Young African Leaders with President Obama.
We finished our trip in Dakar, Senegal -- with a packed schedule over one and half days. As in South Africa, I was overwhelmed by how energized young people are to have their voices heard and to help solve local and global challenges. We met with students, professors, NGOs, business people, and the Government of Senegal -- all focused on how to ensure that young Senegalese are building the skills and networks they need.
Among the events, we held a discussion with entrepreneurs at SYNAPSE, a business incubator which has trained over 4,000 Senegalese young people through a partnership called Passport to Success. They pointed out that with 100,000 young graduates looking for jobs, these programs need to be scaled significantly to begin making a dent in unemployment. But their energy suggests that SYNAPSE is only in its infancy. Their businesses ran the gamut, from an animation studio to a clothing manufacturer -- and their reach into schools promises future growth for budding entrepreneurs and those seeking jobs.
Also noteworthy was a great lunch at the West African Research Center, with influential professors and educators from across Senegal. These teachers and community leaders are a key part of positively influencing young people and giving them the skills they desire. The professors were interested in broadening partnerships with American schools to focus on topics from religious pluralism to women's rights. They also were adamant about the need for expanding vocational training and skill-building to ensure that graduates were better able to find employment.
We had an excellent roundtable at our Ambassador's house focused on youth exchange as an important tool. I'll leave you with a quote from one participant that really captures the great interactions we've had over the course of this trip. It was from Aissatou, a young Senegalese woman who is using her degree in finance to provide loans and other financial services to women looking to start their own businesses. Reflecting on all she is currently doing and her participation in last year's Forum for Young African Leaders with President Obama, she noted: "I used to think that I could help influence my country only after I had 10 years of work experience. But, the best thing I can do is be a driver of change now -- because I'm dynamic, I'm fresh, and I'm young."
This trip is just one small piece of what the State Department is currently doing to engage young leaders across Africa. In fact, our embassies across the continent are focused on this issue throughout the month of May. To learn more about these activities, click here.
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Buenaventura Mining (BVN) was downgraded to hold at TheStreet Ratings.
Carbo Ceramics (CRR) was upgraded to buy at TheStreet Ratings.
Cinemark (CNK) was downgraded at JP Morgan from overweight to neutral. $30 price target. Valuation call, as the stock is up 53% year to date, JP Morgan said.
Deckers Outdoor (DECK) was upgraded at Sterne Agee from neutral to buy. $65 price target. Business can turn by the second half of 2013, Sterne Agee said.
Dell (DELL) was upgraded at Goldman Sachs from sell to buy. $13 price target. Solid cash position should help place a floor on the stock, Goldman said.
Edison International (EIX) was downgraded at Bernstein Research to market perform. Valuation call, based on a $50 price target. Company faces potential growth headwinds, Bernstein said.
Eaton Vance (EV) was upgraded at Goldman Sachs to neutral from sell. $29.50 price target. Better flow outlook, but valuation still stretched, Goldman said.
Finisar (FNSR) was upgraded at Needham from hold to buy. $18 price target. Service provider spending should increase over the coming quarters for the company's new products, Needham said.
International Game (IGT) was upgraded at Deutsche Bank from hold to buy. $19 price target. Worst operating trends are likely behind the company, Deutsche Bank.
Janus Capital Group (JNS) was downgraded at Goldman Sachs to sell from neutral. $7 price target. Tougher flow outlook not priced in, Goldman said.
Lululemon (LULU) was initiated with a buy rating at Canaccord Genuity. $91 price target. Company is evolving beyond its athletic roots, Canaccord said.
Occidental Petroleum (OXY) was downgraded at Deutsche Bank from buy to hold. $80 price target.
PartnerRe (PRE) was downgraded at UBS to neutral from buy. $84 price target. Valuation call, UBS said.
Bankrate (RATE) was downgraded at Canaccord Genuity to hold. $14 price target. Company faces tough comps, Canaccord said.
Regal Entertainment (RGC) was downgraded at JP Morgan from overweight to neutral. Valuation call, as the stock is up 39% year to date, JP Morgan said. $17 price target.
Research In Motion (RIMM) was downgraded at Canaccord to sell. Valuation call, based on a $10 price target. Core fundamentals remain soft, Canaccord said.
Teva Pharmaceuticals (TEVA) was downgraded at UBS to neutral from buy. $41 price target. Company's transition will take time, UBS said.
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Wright, Frances
Frances Wright 1795–1852
Scottish-born social reformer.
One of the first advocates of emancipation and equal rights, Frances Wright deeply influenced the social reform movements of the nineteenth century, particularly in the United States. Her eloquence and dedication in these matters earned her both support and outrage from the American and British public. Wright's intellectual legacy reflects the founding impulses of democracy, and it combines a belief in individual liberty with a strong sense of community ethics and the importance of education. Wright's contribution to the earliest beginnings of the feminist movement remains her best known work, but her concern in general was to liberate humanity from all forms of oppression—including ignorance, poverty, and prejudice.
Biographical Information
Wright was born into a wealthy merchant family in 1795 in Dundee, Scotland. She was related to the Scottish aristocracy through her mother, and to the intellectuals and political liberals of Glasgow through her father. Both of Wright's parents died in 1798, and she and her younger sister Camilla went to live with her maternal aunt, Frances Campbell. Soon afterward Wright's aunt moved the family south to Devonshire. At the age of eight Wright became heiress to family properties in India. At this time Wright was occupied with the study of languages, literature, history, and philosophy, and her well-known scorn for propriety and social convention evidently dates from this period. Wright began to notice the social inequities that pervaded British rural life, and she was particularly interested in the newly-independent nation of the United States. In 1813, Wright and Camilla moved to Glasgow to live with their uncle, James Mylne, who held liberal political beliefs and taught moral philosophy at the University of Glasgow. In Glasgow, Wright cultivated her intellectual and political interests, and began to write seriously—primarily poetry. In 1818, she visited the United States with Camilla in order to observe the social and political experiment in democracy and individual freedom. Her family wealth gave her an immediate entrance into New York society, and her play Altorf was produced there in 1819. Wright travelled
extensively in the United States, and wrote about her perceptions in Views of Society and Manners in America—In a Series of Letters from That Country to a Friend in England, During the Years 1818, 1819, 1820 (1821). Wright became convinced of the need to establish a "colony" where slaves might both work for their freedom (in a plan of gradual emancipation) and become educated. She bought land in Tennessee in 1825, and named her new community Nashoba. In her attempts to support and draw attention to her endeavors, she lectured widely and edited the New Harmony Gazette, a periodical that grew out of Robert Owen's experimental Utopian community in New Harmony, Indiana. Nashoba never became economically self-sufficient, and was dissolved in 1829. The ex-slaves from the Nashoba community were transported to the new republic of Haiti. After the dissolution of the community of Nashoba, Wright wrote an essay entitled "Explanatory Notes, Respecting the Nature and Objects of the Institution of Nashoba, and of the Principles upon which it is Founded: Addressed to the Friends of Human Improvement, in All Countries and of All Nations" (1830). In 1831, the year following the publication of the essay on Nashoba, Camilla died and Wright returned to England. In the same year, Wright married William Phiquepal D'Arusmont. D'Arusmont had been a former member of Owen's experimental Utopian community, and had followed Wright to England. With D'Arusmont, Wright had two children, but only the second, Frances Sylva D'Arusmont, survived infancy. At this time Wright limited her public activities, but managed to publish her lectures on educational reform in England as A Course of Popular Lectures (1834). In 1835 Wright returned to her political activities in the United States, particularly to her advocacy of the gradual emancipation of slaves. But after 1839 she began to spend more time writing at her home in Cincinnati than speaking in public, and the public furor that had accompanied her attempts at social reform dissipated. During this period Wright wrote England the Civilizer: Her History Developed in Its Principles (1848) and an autobiography entitled Biography, Notes, and Political Letters of Frances Wright D'Arusmont (1849). In 1852, shortly after divorcing D'Arusmont, Frances Wright died after a prolonged illness caused by a fall at her home.
Major Works
Wright's first major literary production was her play, Altorf. This play, produced in the United States in 1819, takes its setting and plot from the fourteenth-century Swiss independence movement. In 1822, she wrote a dialogue on Epicurean philosophy entitled A Few Days in Athens—Being the Translation of a Greek Manuscript Discovered in Herculeaneum (1822). This treatise reflects Wright's interest in tolerance and self-reliance. However, unlike the original Epicurus, Wright was not an advocate of the spiritual renunciation of worldly pleasures. In Celia Eckhardt's words, Wright "dares to honor happiness" in this work. Furthermore, Wright's Epicurus is noted for his lack of discrimination against women students. Wright's works grew increasingly political in emphasis. Her "Explanatory Notes, Respecting the Nature and Objects of the Institution of Nashoba, and of the Principles upon which it is Founded: Addressed to the Friends of Human Improvement, in All Countries and of All Nations," her many editorials in the New Harmony Gazette (later renamed the Free Enquirer) and in the Boston Investigator, and her A Course of Popular Lectures reflect her abiding concern with slavery, economic disparities, inequities between genders, lack of public education, and the problematic authority of religious institutions. Among her intellectual influences were Thomas Jefferson, Jeremy Bentham, Robert Owen, and Mary Wollstonecraft. Her work, particularly in her later years, focused upon rewriting and developing earlier lectures given in major cities around the United States and England. Some of these lectures were revised and collected in England the Civilizer: Her History Developed in Its Principles, her last published work.
Critical Reception
While Wright provoked some of the most scathing denunciations of the women's movement of the nineteenth century, she also earned the praise and respect of prominent liberal thinkers of that century. According to George Holyoake, John Stuart Mill (who shared with Wright the ideals of equality and individual liberty) considered her to be "one of the most important women of her day." Walt Whitman attended many of her lectures and sympathized with her passionate struggle for the fulfillment of the democratic promise latent in the new nation. According to critic Celia Eckhardt, Frances Wright's reception by the American and European public shows "how much people love the rhetoric of equality and how little they are inclined to make equality possible." The fact that ten thousand people attended one of Wright's lectures in New York City in 1837 provides evidence for the popularity of Wright's writings and lectures. However, Wright's attempts to put into practice her beliefs regarding gradual emancipation, sexual freedom, racial equality, economic justice, and public education were consistently condemned as radical, blasphemous, and unfeminine. This public outrage, led by the established press and religious authorities, must be counted as one of the principal reasons for the failure of the community of Nashoba. Wright is recognized by more recent critics for the power of her rhetoric and for the profound influence that she exerted over the feminist movements of the nineteenth century. Lucretia Mott, Susan B. Anthony and Elizabeth Cady Stanton all refer to Frances Wright as a pioneer in women's rights. Current feminist scholarship acknowledges her impact on the struggle for social justice, but also notes the extent to which her own philosophical inheritances influence her views. Elizabeth Bartlett claims that Wright was more interested in supporting the rights of humanity in general than of women in particular. Bartlett also claims that Wright "sought the liberty of women to be like men" rather than criticized that ideal itself. Yet Wright's fervent attempts to argue for the independence and equality of all human beings formed a strong foundation for later feminist and liberal activists.
Principal Works
Altorf (drama) 1819
Views of Society and Manners in America—In a Series of Letters from that Country to a Friend in England, During the Years 1818, 1819, 1820 (letters) 1821
"Explanatory Notes, Respecting the Nature and Object of the Institution at Nashoba, and of the Principles upon which it is Founded: Addressed to the Friends of Human Improvement, in All Countries and of All Nations" (essay) 1830
*Course of Popular Lectures (lectures) 1834
England the Civilizer: Her History Developed in Its Principles (history) 1848
*Biography, Notes, and Political Letters of Frances Wright D'Arusmont (autobiography) 1849
*Reprinted in Life, Letters and Lectures. 1834-44 (1972)
William Randall Waterman (essay date 1924)
SOURCE: "Nashoba Concluded," in Frances Wright, Columbia University Press, 1924, pp. 111-33.
[In the following excerpt. Waterman reviews Frances Wright's published plan for her cooperative community of Nashoba and argues that Wright's advocacy of equal rights and sexual freedom contributed to her reputation as a radical.]
Shortly after her return [from England in 1827] Frances [Wright] carried out the suggestion in her letter to James Richardson, and made public her famous "Explanatory Notes, respecting the Nature and Object of the Institution at Nashoba, and of the principles upon which it is founded: Addressed to the Friends of Human Improvement, in all Countries and...
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Helen Heineman (essay date 1983)
SOURCE: "Frances Wright and the Second Utopia," in Restless Angels: The Friendship of Six Victorian Women. Ohio University Press, 1983, pp. 23-62
[In the following excerpt, Heineman discusses Frances Wright's correspondence concerning the establishment of Nashoba, a colony intended to serve as a model of emancipation and equality.]
We have seen that among early peoples the quite normal man is warrior and hunter, and the quite normal woman house-wife and worker-round-the-house; and it is quite conceivable that if no intermediate types had arisen, human society might have remained stationary in these simple occupations. But when types of men began to...
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Celia Morris Eckhardt (essay date 1984)
SOURCE: "Jane Austen and the Rebel," in Fanny Wright: Rebel in America, Harvard University Press, 1984, pp. 1–24.
[In the following excerpt, Eckhardt contrasts Frances Wright, who even in her youth expressed outrage at oppression and willfully entered into political activism, with the more iconic and conventional figure of femininity drawn by Jane Austen.]
On the sixth of September, 1795, a child was born on the southeast coast of Scotland whose life proved as vital as any could be in the nineteenth century, and almost as full of pain. Her name was Frances Wright, and John Stuart Mill would call her one of the most important women of her day.1
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Susan S. Kissel (essay date 1993)
SOURCE: "Wright, the American Suffragists, Mill, and Whitman," in In Common Cause: The "Conservative" Frances Trollope and the "Radical" Frances Wright, Bowling Green State University Popular Press, 1993, pp. 94-114.
[In the following essay, Kissel contends that Frances Wright, by generating both public opprobrium and sympathy, significantly advanced the cause of women's rights in the United States and Britain.]
Rejected by the majority, Frances Wright's ideas nevertheless came to affect every level of American society. Those who have focused attention on her career have agreed on the paradox of her life, its electricity and color reduced to seeming paralysis and...
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Elizabeth Ann Bartlett (essay date 1994)
SOURCE: "Frances Wright," in Liberty, Equality, Sorority: The Origins and Interpretation of American Feminist Thought: Frances Wright, Sarah Grimke, and Margaret Fuller, Carlson Publishing, 1994, pp. 25-55.
[In the following excerpt, Bartlett considers Wright's moral and political convictions, which grew out of her intellectual commitments to liberal democracy and Utopian socialism.]
Wright's Feminist Thought
The juxtaposition of all of the contrasting philosophical backgrounds and assumptions of moral sense, utilitarianism, and Utopian socialism creates a complexity and richness in Wright's feminism. From the Enlightenment Wright drew the...
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Further Reading
Eckhardt, Celia. "Of Fanny and Camilla Wright: Their Sisterly Love." In The Sister Bond: A Feminist View of a Timeless Connection, edited by Toni A. H. McNaron, pp. 37-50. New York: Pergamon Press, 1985.
Describes the relationship between Frances and Camilla Wright, which was instrumental in supporting Frances Wright's political ideals and activism.
Lane, Margaret. Frances Wright and the "Great Experiment." Totowa, New Jersey: Rowman & Littlefield, 1972. 50 p.
Provides biographical information, particularly for the period in which Frances Wright began the experimental community of Nashoba....
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In radio interview, Paul McCartney talks about upcoming release, hints at more European shows
October 22, 2009
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Paul McCartney did a brief interview on BBC Radio 2 with Chris Evans Thursday talking about his upcoming European shows and the release of the "Good Evening New York City" live CD/DVD.
He said "I did some shows in America and we had a great time. And I was just talked to my promotor and I said, 'I'd just like to bring this show home.' " He said the setlist for the European shows will be similar to the American shows, but "it won't all be the same."
He was asked if he would consider doing a residency at London's O2 Arena, and he hinted there may be more European shows in the offing.
"We'll just do one this time. Maybe do a few more next year."
He said "Good Evening New York City" arose out of being asked by Billy Joel to help close Shea Stadium.
"I managed to get there. I flew out that night. I don't know how I did it, but I got there with the aid of the Customs and the cops and everybody. I managed to get onstage right at the end of his show. The old Shea Stadium. It was about five in the morning for me by that time. But it was fabulous for me. I really enjoyed it. So in a way, I opened and closed that. And then I got an offer to open the new one, which is called CitiField. That's the new Shea Stadium. So we did three nights there on this recent tour. And we filmed it and that is what this 'Good Evening New York City' is. It's a film of those shows."
He talked about a memorable moment from the U.S. tour.
"I always complain about the signs people hold up. I don't really complain but I'm saying to the audience, 'I'm trying to remember my words and my chords and sing it and I've got to read all these signs.' ... Anyway, this was this sign here. This woman says, 'Sign my arm and I'll get it tattooed.' And I said, 'Oh, no.' And the audience said, 'Do it. Do it' So I had to get her up on stage by popular demand and then she showed up a couple of gigs later with a tattoo."
That, of course, would be Audrey McCombs (who we've written about here, here and here). We talked to Audrey Thursday night and she'd heard he'd talked about her. She heard the clip posted on YouTube. She said she'd logged on to the Paul McCartney.com message board and was told by some of the users there about the interview. She said she cried when she heard the news and it made her "really really happy." She also said there's a possibility she may attend the London show.
Latest ticket info: Information on Paul McCartney.com states that ticket presale for the Dec. 22 London O2 Arena show begins 9 a.m. UK Oct. 23 at http://www.ticketmaster.co.uk. The general sale begins Oct. 26. Phone: 0844 856 0202 / 0871 230 1103 or online at http://www.ticketmaster.co.uk.
General sale for the Dec. 20 Dublin show begins at 9 a.m. local time Oct. 28. Phone: 0818 719300 (Ire) / 0844 277 4455 (UK) and online at http://www.ticketmaster.ie.
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MOCA GA (Museum of Contemporary Art of Georgia) GALA Art Auction is this Saturday and we are proud to share that BINDERS® Sponsored Working Artists have each donated a piece of their work to this great event.
Art advocates, Usher Raymond IV and Grace Miguel will co-chair the event that will present more than 100 exceptional works of art by an invitation-only group of fine artists located right here in Georgia.
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The GALA Art Auction will be hosted in MOCA GA's main galleries on April 12th from 6:30 - 10pm.
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Details: Comfortable cocktail attire, heavy hors d'oeuvres, full bar, and valet parking.
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HbA1c targets in type 2 diabetes: guidelines and evidence
Aims of treatment for type-2 diabetes include minimising long-term complications (eg, cardiovascular disease, blindness, chronic kidney disease, premature mortality) and avoiding the unwanted effects of treatment (eg, severe hypoglycaemia, weight gain).
Publication of the UK Prospective Diabetes Study (UKPDS) 33 in 1998 suggested that 'intensive blood glucose control' to lower the glycated haemoglobin (HbA1c) in people with type 2 diabetes reduced microvascular disease but not macrovascular complications.
The UKPDS 34 study in overweight patients found that metformin produced less of a reduction in HbA1c but reduced cardiovascular complications and death. Recently, further trials have examined the impact of intensive glycaemic control and have produced conflicting results.
In this article we examine the evidence and guideline recommendations for HbA1c targets; glycaemic control for acutely unwell patients and targets in pregnancy will not be covered (DTB;51:42–5).
What place for racecadotril?
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Lois June Gwaltney, 78, of 1012 Webber Street, Eldorado, died Tuesday, Oct. 8, 2013, at the Ridgway Rehab and Nursing Center in Ridgway.
She was born on May 5, 1933, in Jellico, Tenn., to the late Raymond and Louise (Olds) Gilreath. She was in advertising working for the 3M road sign corporation. She was a member of the Eldorado First United Methodist Church and the Eastern star and D.A.R. and was always active in charities.
She is survived by one son, Donny Ray Gwaltney, Eldorado; two sisters, Alice Fields and Margaret Muffitt both of Eldorado; and one niece, Pat Delk, Jellico, Tenn. She was preceded in death by one son Roy Vernon Gwaltney.
Funeral services will be held 1 p.m. Thursday, Oct. 10, 2013, at Watson Funeral Home. The Rev. Russell Helton will officiate. Burial will be at Wolf Creek Cemetery. Visitation will be held 11 a.m. until service time Thursday, Oct. 10, 2013, at the funeral home.
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