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Evolution was introduced as an atheistic alternative to the biblical view of creation. According to evolution, man created God rather than vice versa. The evolutionists' ultimate agenda is to eliminate faith in God altogether and thereby do away with moral accountability.
Intuition suggests a series of questions to the human mind when we contemplate our origin: Who is in control of the universe? Is there Someone who is sovereign—a Lawgiver? Is there a universal Judge? Is there a transcendent moral standard to live by? Is there Someone to whom we will be accountable? Will there be a final assessment of how we live our lives? Will there be any final judgment?
Those are the very questions evolution was invented to avoid.
Evolution was devised to explain away the God of the Bible—not because evolutionists really believed a Creator was unnecessary to explain how things began, but because they did not want the God of Scripture as their Judge. Marvin L. Lubenow writes,
The real issue in the creation/evolution debate is not the existence of God. The real issue is the nature of God. To think of evolution as basically atheistic is to misunderstand the uniqueness of evolution. Evolution was not designed as a general attack against theism. It was designed as a specific attack against the God of the Bible, and the God of the Bible is clearly revealed through the doctrine of creation. Obviously, if a person is an atheist, it would be normal for him to also be an evolutionist. But evolution is as comfortable with theism as it is with atheism. An evolutionist is perfectly free to choose any god he wishes, as long as it is not the God of the Bible. The gods allowed by evolution are private, subjective, and artificial. They bother no one and make no absolute ethical demands. However, the God of the Bible is the Creator, Sustainer, Savior, and Judge. All are responsible to him. He has an agenda that conflicts with that of sinful humans. For man to be created in the image of God is very awesome. For God to be created in the image of man is very comfortable. (Bones of Contention: A Creationist Assessment of Human Fossils, 188-89).
The real issue in the creation/evolution debate is not the existence of God. The real issue is the nature of God. To think of evolution as basically atheistic is to misunderstand the uniqueness of evolution. Evolution was not designed as a general attack against theism. It was designed as a specific attack against the God of the Bible, and the God of the Bible is clearly revealed through the doctrine of creation. Obviously, if a person is an atheist, it would be normal for him to also be an evolutionist. But evolution is as comfortable with theism as it is with atheism. An evolutionist is perfectly free to choose any god he wishes, as long as it is not the God of the Bible. The gods allowed by evolution are private, subjective, and artificial. They bother no one and make no absolute ethical demands. However, the God of the Bible is the Creator, Sustainer, Savior, and Judge. All are responsible to him. He has an agenda that conflicts with that of sinful humans. For man to be created in the image of God is very awesome. For God to be created in the image of man is very comfortable. (Bones of Contention: A Creationist Assessment of Human Fossils, 188-89).
To put it simply, evolution was invented in order to eliminate the God of Genesis and thereby to oust the Lawgiver and obliterate the inviolability of His law. Evolution is simply the latest means our fallen race has devised in order to suppress our innate knowledge and the biblical testimony that there is a God and that we are accountable to Him (cf. Romans 1:28). By embracing evolution, modern society aims to do away with morality, responsibility, and guilt. Society has embraced evolution with such enthusiasm because people imagine that it eliminates the Judge and leaves them free to do whatever they want without guilt and without consequences.
It's important to remember that evolutionary theories (e.g., favorable mutation, millions of years) did not arise from honest scientific inquiry—evolution is science with an agenda. Evolution began and continues in rebellion against the Creator, ignoring the Lawgiver and dethroning the Judge. Even its science is afloat on a sea of irrationality, supported only by the murky depths of contradiction and speculation.
Many professing and influential Christians are ignoring that evidence these days—i.e., the origins of evolution—when they encourage us to harmonize evolutionary theory with the Bible. Why surrender the ground to unlawful rebels? Why dialogue with the enemy about this? Why give the interloper a voice?
There are far too many who claim Christ's name but are not delighted with His law; they are not content to meditate on God's Word day and night. Rather, they are intimidated by the counsel of the wicked (evolutionary theory), are attracted to the way of sinners (desire for relevance and academic credibility), and are longing for the seat of scoffers (positions of respect and influence). Try as they may, there's no dethroning the Judge; they'll meet Him one day.
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Amen and amen. Thank you for making that important distinction by identifying them as "professing" Christians and those who claim Christ's name. "Many will say to Me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not…' "And then I will declare to them, I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS" (Matthew 7:22, 23). Notice that they emphatically called Him Lord. Notice also that our Master did not say that there would be a few or some but that He said many.
If anyone does not love the Lord let him be accursed (1 Corinthians 16:22). Love and obedience to our Master is not optional. We love because He first loved us 1 John 4:19. We obey Him because He has taken away our heart of stone and has given us a heart of flesh and causes us to walk in His statutes and makes us careful to observe His ordinances (Ezekiel 11:19, 20, and Ezekiel 36:26, 27). "Let us cleanse ourselves from all defilement of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God" (2 Corinthians 7:1) "…but He disciplines us for our good, that we may share in His holiness" (Hebrews12:10b). Let us worship our Lord in the beauty of Holiness (1 Chronicles 16:29 KJV) for He is worthy. He came to save His people from their sins (Matthew 1:21). Oh, what a glorious Master and Savior He is. Amen? -His Unworthy Slave
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"For man to be created in the image of God is very awesome. For God to be created in the image of man is very comfortable. … To put it simply, evolution was invented in order to eliminate the God of Genesis and thereby to oust the Lawgiver and obliterate the inviolability of His law."How true! I read these blogs & keep thinking about Proverbs 1:7: "The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom." FEAR OF THE LORD! Recent GTY blogs have discussed some of the current integrity problems facing Christians, issues with Fellowship, Doctrine, the definition of true believers & faithful doctrine, the cause of moral decline,… and it seems to boil down to this: DO WE REALLY FEAR GOD? So I ask, do these people - those Christian educators who embrace evolution, those preachers & evangelical leaders who signed the Manhattan Declaration & accept & preach watered-down theology, etc. - do they REALLY FEAR GOD? Do they seriously think they can justify to Him WHY they have rejected His absolute word & instead accepted something less? I just know I would not want to be in their shoes on Judgment Day! I read Job & see how God silence him by simply declaring all of His power & creative accomplishments, and asked, "Who is this who darkens counsel by words without knowledge?" (Job 38:2) And "Shall a faultfinder contend with the Almighty?" (Job 40:2) Certainly it is UNCOMFORTABLE to FEAR GOD. And for some, it is UNCOMFORTABLE to accept something as fact without fully understanding it, but we also know that "Without FAITH it is impossible to please God." It is a requirement in the equation of our relationship to God: FEAR + FAITH. Remember how satan deceived Eve in the Garden? Did he not cause her to doubt God's word? To doubt God's Authority? To remove her FEAR OF GOD & His CONSEQUENCE/JUDGMENT of death for disobedience? The Judge pronounces Judgment. Removing God from the equation, removes the FEAR of GOD from the equation, which removes the fear of the consequences. And satan delights in hiding the consequences from us.
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We agree people want to deny the existence of God…because they want to eliminate the Author & Judge of ALL! If God is the Creator & Author of ALL, then He & He ALONE has the right to dictate law & implement judgment. (Sovereignty) But how many people deny the existence of satan? Many, including some who call themselves Christians! To what end? They deny satan because….?
· To believe there is an adversary to God would also mean there is punishment, which they just can't face? Too many people don't want to be punished. Just like too many people who call themselves Christians because they don't want to go to hell – so they "accept" Jesus as their Savior, however, they are unwilling to "accept" Him as their Lord.
· They don't want to believe anyone else is directing their ways? They want to be fully in control of their lives (this is satan-like, NOT Christ-like!)
· They feel they are "good" in & of themselves, enough to "please God" & be accepted by Him?
· They deny there is an inner struggle taking place between the Holy Spirit drawing us toward God & teaching us to be like Christ, while the evil adversary is drawing us away from God, leading us astray at every turn?
Why does this debate keep going back to Genesis & why is it so important? Because it establishes the foundations of existence: there is a Creator & Author of Life Who is therefore the justified Lawgiver & Judge. Also, Genesis exposes God's nemesis who seeks to undermine God's authority. I don't wish to give satan more attention than is due him, but to deny his existence is also detrimental to our sanctifying walk with God! We are at war, daily. To deny that is to wear blinders, which is what the evolutionists choose to do.
Thank you at getting at the REAL issues of evolution and atheism. Since the beginning man and Satan have wanted to be their own god. Problem is we are unable to. God does such a good job and I have tons of joy when I see him working in my life in many ways. Living His way is the best way.
Though evolutionary theory is recent, this straying from God in the pursuit of human advancement is not new (Jeremiah 2:1-13). But, the result is the same. God's people, which used to be closely tied to Him, no longer ask or think in His direction. When we stop relying on Him, He will cause our alliances to fail. If this is inevitable, the WISE thing to do is to take Him at His word - to give God all the credit, all the glory (John 11:40).
Evolution is idolatry which is a violation of the First Commandment. The bible declares, "The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God." Psalms 9:17
It is true that the things that we believe and the things that we cling to reveal what is at the bottom of our hearts. If we seek the truth, it is evidence that we desire to have God speak about us that, "they want Me to be the Lord over them", but for those who embrace what the world thinks and the embraces that corruption in the world because of evil desire, and the doctrines like evolution and the teachings of Nietchze, then it is evidence that down in the deeps of thier hearts they say, "we do not want God to be the Lord".
I think it is important to also recognize the indoctrinational effects of evolution. Watching Ray Comfort witness to folks while asking them how evolution occured, and in turn noting their uninformed, and incoherent answers that are spattered with "i don't know's" it is obvious that tons and tons of people don't even understand the lie they have been fed. While it is appropriate to say that many of these have turned their backs on God, we also must continue to witness and feed information to those who believe in evolution. If you take a typical 22-year old who believes in evolution they have been taught secular science in public schools since they were in 3rd grade! So while they have turned their backs on God and are due the punishment we need to constantly feed them information, they aren't going to change their minds overnight. If you are talking to someone about creation v. evolution and they don't change their mind right away please don't sit back and quote Romans 1:18-32, or any such verse. Give them time and continue to work with them and talk to them and trust that the Lord will work also. This is a lie that runs very deep, and so needs much work to overcome.
John Joseph...be careful. Those same people who can't explain evolution don't know who George Washington was, or what was significant about the battle of Gettysburg...etc. The average Joe in this day and age, sad to say, is pretty ignorant because they choose to be.
The problem is, evolution is the Bible-believers tin can they can kick down the road easily...The stars, in my opinion, are a lot harder to kick. The fact is if we have ANY ability to measure things in this universe, the Andromeda galaxy is 2 million light years away...How did this happen??? Even Answers in Genesis etc accept this to be the case...This leads the "apparent age" problem of the universe. It looks old. Some hand wave and say, "well, Adam was an adult when he was made", but that simply skirts the issue. A LOT of science can be done by looking at the light that is coming from distant galaxies and stars, etc...it is not just that God filled in the space with photons of light, etc...Something IS happening out there that challenges a lot of our traditional assumptions...
To me this challenge works both ways. Creationists too often want to ignore science and say it all has to match up with THEIR intepretation of the Genesis creation. Theological evolutionists put too much trust in science, and the agnostic/atheist is simply deceived and blind.
Dear Mark (#9),
Your argument would be more persuasive if you used Scripture. I don't believe you can harmonize YOUR interpretation without it.
"but that simply skirts the issue", "it is not just that God filled in the space with photons of light"
Can you explain how the supernatural miraculous activity by God in Genesis 1 "skirts the issue"? Either you accept that what happened in creation was a miracle with no natural explanation, or you deny that it was a miracle.
If you met the man with the formerly-withered-hand and studied his now normal hand to figure out how Jesus restored it, would you consider it "skirting the issue" if Jesus said, "Hey, I did that by my creative power... there is no natural explanation"?
Science does in fact challenge traditional assumptions. Science challenges the supernatural work of God because it can't accept the miraculous. You either accept God's power and His explanation, or you accept science. You either assume God can do what He said He did, or you assume he can't or didn't. Science challenges the traditionally assumed reliability of God's word and God's work.
To the scientist, any entrance of God into the equation "skirts the issue".
I have appreciated your previous posts and participation, and I am interested to read your response.
Randy, what is the problem? That Andromeda galaxy is 2 million light years away? That is merely an observation...If you deny that, then you reject our ability as humans to measure distances...
Here is what I mean. If you say that God created the universe already large, and put Andromeda galaxy 2 million light years away, and then created a stream of photons to travel the 2 million light years distance, then you NO LONGER CAN USE OBSERVATION IN ANY WAY TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE UNIVERSE...that is the consequence of that particular belief.
You'll notice the physicists at AiG and CRI etc reject this notion of a stream of photons idea, and try to come up with scientific explanations of an expanding universe or decaying speed of light, etc...
As for scripture, God chose to not reveal how large the universe is in the Bible...He just said He made it in 6 days...When then EXTRAPOLATE a POSSIBLE age...
Really? Does a mature created universe make it impossible to determine the distance between objects, the expansion, how many planets there are, what they are made of, etc., etc., etc? I'm not sure how that's the case. What it does deny the scientist is the ability to determine the age of the universe. Right or wrong?
Gabriel, I perhaps OVERSTATED some. I think parallax measurements would still be valid, or any luminosity measurement out to the age of the universe in light years...
Here is why. We measure the distance to very far objects like Andromeda galaxy by looking at the light output of a special class of stars called Cepheid variables. These are stars that cycle in brightness on a regular pattern that relates VERY WELL to the absolute luminosity (or brightness) of the star. Now, if we know exactly how much light an object puts off, and measure how bright it appears to us, then we can infer how far away it is ( the brightness decreases with the square of the distance).
If God "monkeyed" with the light to make the Universe appear older than it "appears", then this measurement is no longer valid. The assumptions are all wrong. Why would the light necessarily match up with what it should be??? The light did NOT travel 2 million light years to get to us...so how do I know how far away Andromeda galaxy is? I no longer can tell from luminosity measurements...
In the tree ring analogy, we know trees since creation lay down rings. So rings tell us the age of a tree, but it works ONLY on trees born SINCE day 3. Trees made on day 3 had rings implanted in them that DO NOT CONNECT with age (right...if the standard young earth model is accepted). So rings only work to tell us about tree age for post-creation trees...Likewise, light from stars would be unreliable to tell us about distance, since that light we see DIDN'T travel 2 million years to get to us from Andromeda galaxy...I then wonder JUST HOW FAR AWAY ANDROMEDA IS since I no longer have a distance measurement...
Thanks for that explanation, Mark. If I may, let me ask a question and I'm hoping it'll take us down a productive path of discussion.
Your explanation about determining the distance of the stars included factors such as brightness (luminosity and appearance), pulsing brightness of special stars. Then you concluded saying that if it isn't as old as it looks, then the distance is wrong. Can you explain how the age of the galaxy factors into the distance? Because your paragraph explaining how we determine the distance didn't mention the age factor.
If I read your question right, you are aking how distance relates to age...
Well, if from the brightness of a variable star I think it is 2 million light years away, then in standard astrophysics I say the light traveled 2 million years from source to me. The option you propose (in a mature universe model) is God somehow created the Andromeda galaxy far away, and then created a stream of photons to me so that I can see it even though it is farther away than light from Andromeda can get to me since creation about 6000 years ago...The problem is the light I see is not connected to the actual distance...my assumption of apparent brightness compared to absolute brightness is no longer valid, like the assumption of tree rings telling me age for ~6000 year old trees...
"my assumption of apparent brightness compared to absolute brightness is no longer valid"
Wait... so there is assumption involved? Or is there a way to know for certain what the absolute brightness is?
Plus you get into the problem that IF God created light to make apparent stars or galaxies, then for stars farther away than the age of the young universe, this light is "fake"...it doesn't represent light from the real object. It is instead a cartoon...The universe is then a fancy, detailed cartoon...is that rational?
"is that rational?"
I don't know... is creation of everthing from nothing rational? Is eternity rational? Is God's omnipresence, omnipotence, and omniscience rational?
Well, using standard astrophysics, and tying distances to things like parallax (which works for closer stars), then we can track a connection between absolute brightness and pulsation in Cepheid variables. We do this for close Cepheid variables to get the relationship, and then apply it to farther ones to use as a farther distance ladder.
If you think the universe is only < 10,000 years old, then all of this starts to breakdown because the light you see for a star 20,000 light years away isn' the "real" light...That is what I meant by assumption...
OK..Gabriel. We have arrived at my point...we CANNOT then determine distance from observation in your model...QED.
Ok, I think I get it. Correct me if I understand incorrectly. If the universe is older than 20,000 years, it is rational to accept that an object is 20,000 light years away because there was enough time for the light to reach us. However, if the universe is less than that, then it is irrational to accept that an object is that far away because the light didn't have enough time to travel here.
Furthermore, if we accept the YEC view, then light that represents 20,000 years isn't real light because it didn't really take 20,000 years to reach earth.
I guess I would respond with a series of questions regarding that last point. Was Adam real since he represented a grown man but he wasn't really a grown man? Was the bread and fish that Jesus distributed in John 6 real bread and fish since it hadn't been grown, harvested, and prepared? Was the wine Jesus made in Cana real wine since it hadn't grown on the vine?
I think you get my point. Everything God created in six days was real. The light from the stars was as real as the light you see from the sun today. This is as rational as God's existence (which I think is quite rational compared to the alternative).
If that is the case (that 6,000-15,000 year old light looks 20,000 years old), does that disable us from knowing the distance? If it does, then maybe the scientist should reconsider his assumptions and procedures, rather than question God's revelation.
"My problem", Mark, is that God is His own Interpreter. After all, it is His truth, whether in the natural or supernatural realm. Why is He excluded from participating in the interpretation?
I'm not trying to rile you up, but I wanted to know how you were approaching things.
Evolution theory is the "Emperor's clothes". If you seek to be accepted and thought of as smart and "cool" you would accept it…for the unregenerate they would accept any fable or any silly irrational philosophy as long as it replaces the Truth of God, their reprobate mind is ready to embrace any thing given, that it doesn't demand moral accountability to the God of the Bible. Dr. R. C. Sproul had it right in the following quotation:" Men and women who refuse to acknowledge God's existence do so, in the final analysis, because it is contrary to their manner of living. They do not want to bow to the moral claims of a holy God on their lives".
Gabriel, I think you have the basic idea, though I only point out to you what I did so you could see the consequence of YEC in the "static" model you suggested. The problem then is astronomy and cosmology are pointless endeavors because there is no direct connection between apparent brightness, red-shift, etc, and distance. If an object "appears" 2 million light years away, how then do I know that it is that far away??
If that is the way God did things, so be it. But why then bother giving some people inquisitive minds?
People are pretty dogmatic about "their" interpretation of Genesis 1-3. I think a literal interpretation of the 6 day creation is solid...but a question I have always had, but never really researched satisfactorally, is how long did Adam live in the garden before the Fall? I think people assume it was a short time, perhaps one day...Why not a billion years? Any ideas?
I think all this argument is silly. The number one reason is, a lot of evidence points TOWARD God (read books like The Case for the Creator, Darwin on Trial, Darwin's Black Box, and about a dozen others whose reference you can find in the first book I mentioned) and despite what most modern scientists think, we don't know enough. Perhaps the nature of light doesn't work exactly how we think. I've heard one theory that light across the universe can actually travel faster because of the "bending" of the universe...indeed if you look at a photo of a galaxy, starlight can appear bent as if through a lens. Perhaps there is more than one kind of light.
In other words, MAN DOES NOT KNOW NEARLY AS MUCH AS HE THINKS HE DOES.
Stacey, thanks for calling my profession silly...that really helps.
Having inquisitive minds doesn't mean we'll be able to answer every question. Sometimes I wonder how a rock formed a certain way... but no amount of research will tell me how rock was formed into the exact shape it is. We know generally how rocks change shape, but not specifically. We can wonder why God chose to save us, and not others, but that is in the mind of God. We can wonder why God created the light before the sources of light, but that is not for us to know. The scientist and the theologian, perhaps more than most people, must remember Deuteronomy 29:29.
The goal of our inquisitive minds is not to answer every question. The goal is to worship God for what we do know, and worship Him for what we don't know.
With regard to Adam, there is no way to know how long exactly he and Eve lived inside the garden. BUT we do know that he lived 100 years before Eve gave birth to Seth (Genesis 5:3). We also know that they had Cain, Abel, and other children (at least one daughter who was Cain's wife) before Seth. Cain and Abel had to be at least teens in Genesis 4, and we don't know how much time passed between the killing of Abel and the birth of Seth. Extrapolating from that data Cain was born no later than when Adam was 70-80 years old (give or take). Of course Cain could have been born when Adam was 9 months old (no earlier for obvious reasons). So the best we can do is say that Adam and Eve lived in the garden anywhere from 2 days to 80 years (2 days because they were created on the 6th day and God rested on the 7th, so they probably would not have sinned until at least the 8th day... though that is highly unlikely).
The Bible is it's own interpreter. The problem is, am I reading it right? Pastors and theologians study languages, history, Scripture, etc to know what the Bible says and what it does NOT say.
Where the Bible is silent, we can have opinion, but we need to be careful to be exclusively dogmatic.
So, that leaves room for people to study the way nature, which God created, behaves...and we can learn a lot from it. I don't know about you, but I like fiberoptics, lasers, mp3 players, quantum mechanics so we can build transistors, satellites for weather and communication and the list goes on...
Gabriel, of course. I temporarily forgot that...
Actually, in the "evil" big bang cosmology, there is light before stars...oops, how did that get in there...those wacky scientists.
Mark, then tell the Psalmist in Psalms 119 he had it all wrong! I can refute "the Bible is its own interpreter" from other passages as well, but I will leave you room to do your own study, to find out what the Bible really says and what it does NOT say.
Randy, then send the email to John MacArthur. I took the phrase "the Bible is it's own interpreter" from him. The point is if we are confused about the meaning of a passage, the Bible later on might explain what that passage means. Or, it will perhaps discuss that topic later on in other scripture...no conspiracy here.
I will NOT let the phrase "the Bible is its own interpreter" go unchallenged. The ONLY way that statement can be true is if the Spirit of God is living in the one to whom it is addressed. Since it cannot be true without the Spirit of God, then God has to be His own interpreter. The Bible is a closed book to the unbeliever because the Spirit of God is not in them. (1 Corinthians 2)
Interpretations belong to God.
Unless you are God or you claim infallibility you have just disqualified yourself from interpreting Scripture (based on the statement "Interpretations belong to God").
It is true that infallibility and innerrancy belong to God, but as fallible human beings we must work to interpret Scripture with the aid of the Spirit. And one of the best ways we interpret Scripture is to use Scripture; hence the phrase "the Bible is its own interpreter".
When we say that the Bible is its own interpreter we mean that we can use Exodus 20:11 to interpret Genesis 1. We can use Jesus' affirmation of Old Testament history to interpret the Old Testament literally. When Scripture comments on other portions of Scripture, we must abide by that interpretation, rather than ignoring it and coming up with our own. That's all that is being said.
No, there is no claim of infallibility, but I do have a guide (John 16:13). I do agree that God makes us work to interpret Scripture, but without the Spirit there is no true understanding no matter how many verses you compare. How else could the Bible say that spiritual things are foolishness to the one who does not have the Spirit of God?
The phrase "interpretations belong to God" is not mine. It came from the testimony of Joseph and Daniel.
Adam couldn't have lived in the garden for a billion years. Genesis 5:5 says he lived a total of 930 years.
Randy, since you are using Joseph and Daniel to use the phrase "interpretations belong to God," you should note what Joseph and Daniel were referring to, namely, not Scripture.
Hi Mark...
I didn't call your profession silly at all. I personally think bantering back and forth and missing the point of Scripture is pointless...I very much value science, but we cannot let it overtake our faith at the same time. Scientists in my experience, and I'm not pointing at you, believe they have much more control and knowledge of their universe than they really do. I enjoy this sort of thing myself...but if it means never getting the point of Scripture or letting it get in the way of my faith I let it go because quite frankly none of us knows enough. We just don't. You can't agree with me on that point?
# 39 - Gabriel, good point.
I do believe that the Bible can be understood by properly studying it, and that it explains itself.
The Holy Spirit as Interpreter
One final point concerning interpretation remains to be made. Scripture tells us that if we are to understand Scripture we need, over and above right rules, personal insight into spiritual things. Scripture sets before us spiritual truths—truths, that is, about God, and about created things in relation to God; and to grasp spiritual truths requires spiritual receptiveness. But no man has this by nature. "The natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned." (10) The habit of mind which enslaves the natural man, Paul tells us, is to set up his own "wisdom" and make it ultimate, and so he is compelled to dismiss as foolishness all that does not accord with it. Without spiritual enlightenment, he will never be able to see the foolishness of his own wisdom, nor the wisdom of the "foolishness of God" (11) proclaimed in the gospel; hence he will never forsake the one for the other. Our Lord confirms this view of man. His repeated diagnosis of the unbelieving Pharisees was that they were blind, lacking the capacity to perceive spiritual realities; (12) and He regarded spiritual perception, where He found it, as a supernatural gift from God. (13)
I'm going with Packer on this one simply because it is biblical.
Perhaps this article from Packer will help you.
Gabe, have you read the article? Go back and read my posts. It's just simple subtraction. Subtract the Holy Spirit and what do you have?
Again, WHO holds the key to unlocking the meaning of Scripture?
Gabriel, you should also know that I agree with Packer that God holds the key to unlocking the meaning of ANY revelation, general or special. If so, why exclude God from the interpretation? This is the point of the argument I was having. I cannot make such an assertion without establishing that God holds the key to unlocking His truth.
Stacey, I was having a conversation with Gabriel on the impact of certain scientific interpretations of Genesis 1-3. If that is bantering, I apologize. All we know from Scripture is that God created the universe in 6 days, and that God created mankind...After that we observe nature to see how it works. Perhaps we have misinterpreted our reading of the Bible and THINK we know more than we do about how God created the world and operates it...
What certainly IS bantering, is our friend Randy here. I make an innocent comment about the Bible being its own interpreter, and now he has both barrels blazing...
Russel, #42. I appreciate your post. You say "former" scientist. Did you retire or "reject" science. Just curious.
What I have written here is to try to get believers to think a little about the relationship between science and their faith. What the implications are, etc... People TOO OFTEN speak authoritatively about "what the Bible says" when it SAYS NO SUCH THING. They HAVE INTERPRETED it to say something that they now believe.
An example is present star formation. On an earlier thread a person questioned whether stars are at present being formed, or whether they were all made on day 4 and none since then. OK, a person can believe what they want, but the Bible says NOTHING about whether stars are at present being made. In fact, just as trees were made on day 3 and ARE PRESENTLY being born as well, I would argue that stars are LIKELY being formed at present...If you go to "creation science" websites like AiG and ICR they even challenge present day star formation...
So, that is merely an example of where people take what they THINK and project it onto "the Bible" and turn it into a doctrine almost.
I suppose another example is over 100 years ago, Christians INSISTED God made every single animal or life form in its exact form that does not change...Since then rapidly changing simple lifeforms like bacteria have revealed that they DO change and adapt to their environment. I suspect if you dropped off two red foxes at the north pole, in a few generations you would have white foxes...Now, it is a stretch to say this is ANYTHING but adaptation, but it is certainly adaptation.
In the end, we need to stand WHERE THE BIBLE STANDS, and be more graceful where it doesn't.
Hi again Mark,
I left the field of Astrophysics and Space Science to pursue a career in private industry. My field of research was contact binary stars in the X-ray, as well as optical and Ultra Violet. Your description of Cepheids made me pine for a photometer! I was an Atheist/Agnostic during my career in science and came to the Lord afterwards. I don't reject science, and I'm sure you are aware that many of the pillars of science were Christian, although that is probably shrinking today. I do believe that it is beyond our ability and instruction to reconcile the observable universe with the Bible. "I don't know" has become a concept I have grown comfortable with over time as a Christian, and my view of both science and creation have changed somewhat.
Scientists are great at measuring, modeling, and predicting phenomena in the known observable universe. We can describe the effects of something like gravity very accurately, but can we give a true reason as for its very existence? Even more, science is far worse at extrapolation, particularly over enormous spans of time. God is bound by none of it anyway, but we are and the pursuit of scientific knowledge is indeed a worthwhile activity.
I think you are an important voice here and point out very well the dangers of "crosstalk" between the spiritual and the natural world. The God of the Bible is not subject to the forces of nature as we understand them.
I totally agree that it is easy to read into scripture that which is not there, and that we can hurt the cause of Christ when we do so. The Bible is amazingly silent on scientific insight. It is no accident that Jesus defied the "laws" of physics during His ministry, as opposed to advancing them. How many diseases could He have left remedies for if He had thought it important? Imagine the advancements in every field of science He could have made during His days walking amongst His people. Alas, science was of no consequence to Him in His mission to defeat sin once and for all.
I'm a huge fan of science and a committed Christian who loves the Lord. At this stage of my life, I enjoy the beauty of God's universe and can see his hand everywhere, even though I can't necessarily bridge the gap between the two satisfactorily. This is not a copout but a concession that is biblical, in that a sheep can't mine the true depths of the mind and heart of the Shepherd.
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Really? Then this is a perfect example of why you listen to John MacArthur on Sundays and read books by Packer, etc., and not me. I have definitely given people the wrong impression. My motivation is simply that I love God's truth. For the sake of grace and peace, I have left this discussion.
Randy, I don't know if you are talking to me...I just meant that you turned a small statement of mine into a theological discussion...
I apologizing for not responding earlier. I had a busy evening yesterday and woke up sick, so I just got back to the blog.
I'm not going to take the time to read that article because, quite frankly, I'm not disagreeing with you regarding the necessity of the role of the Spirit in interpretation.
I don't recall anyone claiming that the Spirit wasn't necessary or that anyone on their own with the Bible has the full ability to interpret Scripture. Not at all.
What started this little back-and-forth was that someone used the phrase "the Bible is its own interpreter." I think you took that to mean that the Bible is exclusively its own interpreter and nothing else is needed. I really don't think that is what the person meant, and it certainly isn't what I took it to mean. Rather using Scripture to interpret Scripture is a solid fundamental principle of hermeneutics (rules of interpretation). We could state the principle this way: use clearer passages to interpret more difficult passages. It is one of the fundamental principles. Another, just as important is the necessity of the indwelling Spirit.
That's all that was being said.
So, unless you are proposing that a person can get direct revelation from the Spirit as to the interpretation of a passage (which I don't think you are), then I don't see any disagreement.
From the sidelines here I could see that you guys were not in disagreement, but where looking at the same thing from a different perspective, that's all.
I understand Randy's point, and I don't think he was talking about special revelation, and of course we all agree that we need the Spirit to understand the bible. I think it was all a misunderstanding (the examples of Joseph and Daniel were not about interpretation of Scripture).
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Please clarify ADAPTATION for those of us still in science kindergarten. My understanding (which may be wrong) of adaptation is that living things CHANGE (structurally?) in order TO ADAPT to their surroundings. Using your example of the red foxes turning white within a few generations at the North Pole to ADAPT to their surroundings is not what I would call CHANGE or ADAPTATION. A red fox is NOT CHANGING INTO a white fox. I was taught that a recessive "white" gene - defect or mutation (not sure if that's the same thing) in the RED Fox would produce some WHITE offspring. These white foxes would be more difficult to spot by predators at the North Pole, while the red foxes would be easier to spot & thus more likely hunted by the predators. That would decrease the red fox population while leaving more white foxes to mate, reproducing more white foxes, and sort of "weeding out" the red fox gene. Isn't that why we have albino tigers? Of course the zoos ensure the white tigers only mate with other white tigers, restricting the gene pool. That is not what I consider to be ADAPTATION.
I'm fair-skinned, I COULD NOT live in a sunny climate comfortably, so I don't live in the south. If more fair-skinned people lived up north – like me/due to comfort - then it would be more likely that in the north, one fair-skinned person would meet & marry another fair-skinned person, reproducing more fair-skinned offspring, thus keeping the gene pool thin with regard to darker skin. I didn't ADAPT to the northern climate, but have lived where I'm more comfortable. If I ADAPTED or CHANGED, an example would be that I moved to the south & I (not future generations) would stop burning when out in the hot sun. Do I make sense? I don't see those as being the same thing.
Also, I've HEARD the same argument made for resistant strains of bacteria. Not that the bacteria CHANGED TO ADAPT, but that ONLY those bacteria ALREADY resistant (predisposed) survived, thus weeding out the non-resistant bacteria & thus increasing the resistant strains as they reproduced. Again, I'm weak on science (only took a couple astronomy classes in college, a long time ago!) but am really enjoying the science lessons presented on these blogs & am only a student, (perhaps with stupid questions, but none the less,) seeking to better understand God's creation & the natural world around me. Thanks in advance for any clarification.
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I suppose another example is over 100 years ago, Christians INSISTED God made every single animal or life form in its exact form that does not change...Since then rapidly changing simple lifeforms like bacteria have revealed that they DO change and adapt to their environment. I suspect if you dropped off two red foxes at the north pole, in a few generations you would have white foxes...Now, it is a stretch to say this is ANYTHING but adaptation, but it is certainly adaptation..
Sorry Mark, I'm throwing down the 'false premise' or 'straw man argument' flag on the above play :) Whether you realize it or not, you are using the same tactics that evolutionists use to try and discredit creationists. And because you're entering into a realm of science familiar to me - 'life sciences' - I can't let this slide. For a better explanation of what I'm talking about read Chapter 3: The True Origin of the Species, Proper Interpretation of the Evidence (begin paragraph 5) http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/dp/true-origin-of-species
Now, about those "Christians of over "100 years ago". They are not entirely guilty of the ignorance you suggest. Variations within a "kind" is observable and that's really what you're talking about. It's been known - perhaps not by our modern terms, but nonetheless - for thousands of years. (Consider the animal husbandry practiced by Jacob and Laban on their respective flocks of sheep and goats in Genesis 30, for example.) What is impossible, is one "kind" adapting and changing into another "kind". Therefore, those "Christians" of which you speak rightly believed God's Word. Animals reproduce after their own kind; sheep can't adapt and change to become camels.
The major issue most had - and still have - with Darwin was not with his idea of 'natural selection'. It was with the idea that natural selection causes evolution into new kinds.
Those bacteria to which you refer did not 'change' or 'adapt' to become viruses. No new genetic information was added. Here's another article from AIG's which may interest you. It's by Kevin L. Anderson, PhD and Georgia Purdom, PhD - "A Creationist Perspective of Beneficial Mutations in Bacteria": http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/aid/v4/n1/beneficial-mutations-in-bacteria
According to this article: http://creation.com/darwin-brave-new-world-2 ,it was a creationist named Edward Blythe that discovered "natural selection" and wrote about it several years before Darwin. So to say that creationists were behind science in this understanding just doesn't hold water.
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Sweden (8-1) is the No. 1 seed and will play No. 2 Canada (8-1) in the Page 1-2 game, also at 2:30 p.m. Friday. The Americans will have to wait to find out who their playoff opponent is as China, Russia and Scotland finished the round robin tied for fourth place with 4-5 records and will have to play tiebreaker games to determine the No. 4 seed.
The Americans split today's games at the Ice Cube Curling Center. In the morning game, the U.S. defeated Russia's defending champions led by Andrey Smirnov, 5-4, in an extra end. Greely's second stone of overtime was a perfect freeze to cover the button that withstood the end and was the scoring point as Smirnov was unable to remove it with his promotion takeout attempt. In the afternoon game, the Americans bowed to Scotland's Gregor Ewan, 7-5. The win helped the Scots stay in playoff contention.
"I am quite ecstatic about how things are going," said Steve Brown (Madison, Wis.), Team USA's head coach. "It's very impressive. We had good expectations coming into the event, but there were still a lot of unknowns. Our goal was to get to the final four ...I like the chemistry of the team; I love their attitude and work ethic. Everything they've done this year has been 'A' quality. I would like to add compliments to the icemakers for their work here. They have done a tremendous job."
The Americans have only medalled once at this event, back in 2008 when the team won bronze. The USA's last playoff appearance at this event was in 2009 when the team finished fourth. They also finished fourth at the 2010 Paralympic Games in Vancouver.
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President Obama's proposal to control college tuition and quality is not exactly what we had in mind, but we're glad he's trying to solve the problem of runaway college tuition.
More specifically, we're glad he's making a connection between the grants and loans the nation gives students to go to college and the college they choose.
On July 19 we editorialized that since the federal government is indirectly subsidizing these schools through the grants and loans it gives their students, it should use that as leverage to bring those prices down. Some colleges contain their costs, like our own Paul Smith's and, of course, North Country Community College. But others spend lavishly on things like presidential salaries, buildings and sports teams while driving their tuition up and adding to their students' debt.
Many of these schools are run by states, which should control their own affairs. The rest are private and should be free to do that kind of thing – but with the taxpayers' money?
We suggested in July that the federal government say, "We won't loan students money to go to any college with tuition higher than X." We also suggested that the government require each school to offer a certain proportion of academic scholarships – serious ones, not just a couple thousand dollars – before issuing student loans there.
Since then we've learned some good news: Private colleges pay much more than we thought to help cover the costs of students who are academically qualified but can't afford the full sticker price. Paul Smith's President John Mills said the percentage of his school's students who receive scholarship or "discount" funding is in the high 80s. That money comes not only from alumni but from the school's operational budget. He said all but the elite colleges do that and that the national average for the "unfunded discount" is 46 percent of tuition.
So our second recommendation wouldn't be as hard to achieve as we thought.
Obama's plan would go further. He would have the Education Department rate colleges on their affordability as well as student success, using data such as graduation and transfer rates, graduates' incomes and how many go on to earn advanced degrees. Then he would tie those ratings to federal aid. Students at better-rated schools could get cheaper loans or bigger grants, while aid might be cut off for schools that aren't controlling costs, delivering quality education or opening their doors wide enough for low- and middle-income students.
We tend to agree with Rep. Bill Owens that the rating system would create unnecessary bureaucracy. It would also impose a "competency-based learning" curriculum on universities that, while perhaps beneficial, should come about organically.
It makes sense, though, that the American taxpayers get more assurance that their money that goes to universities – especially private ones – isn't wasted. That could, however, happen more simply than the way the president suggests.
This is a uniquely American situation. Many other countries, such as Canada, give more of their tax dollars to higher education to keep tuition more affordable for everyone. In the U.S., we tend to have higher prices and more aid to fill the gaps for those who need it. It's similar with health care.
Our nation also has an unbelievable number of colleges – more than 3,000 private and 1,650 public, numbers that are steadily growing. One would think this fierce competition would lead to lower tuition prices. Rather, in the 25 years from 1987 to 2012, it doubled for private colleges and tripled for public ones, according to College Board statistics (obtained via Bloomberg).
Public universities are supposed to be the affordable option, but they're less so now. States' monetary support for its colleges fell 26 percent over the last two decades, Daniel Luzer wrote in Washington Monthly (April 13, 2012).
Perhaps states meant to pressure their colleges to be more efficient, and maybe that's happened somewhat. But what's also happened is tuition hikes.
As a result, student debt has grown, and as a result of that, federal student aid has grown, too – but not as fast.
States really need to step it up on education.
Happily, some problems will work themselves out without government intervention. Amid the last five years' down economy, with so many college graduates unemployed, students have more people warning them to major in something with good job prospects. Also, costs might drop as more education is available online. And the competency-based learning revolution that PSC President Mills loves is probably going to happen, like it or not, because more people are demanding verification that all that tuition money buys actual, measurable learning.
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The Calais DC is the Rembrandt of Shimano baitcasting reels. The beautiful black nickel body houses the best of what Shimano has to offer. Nothing is held back with the Shimano Calais DC: 11 ball bearings, solid aluminum frame and 4X8 DC technology make the Calais DC a masterpiece.
-4x8 Digital Control
-S A-RB Bearings
-Magnumlite Spool
-Septon handle material
-Super Free (SF)
-High Efficiency Gearing (HEG)
-Tapered Titanium Levelwind Insert
-Greaseless Spool Support Bearings
-Super Stopper
-Assist Stopper
-Escape Hatch
-Septon Handle Material
-PV Power Handles
-Cold Forged Handle Shank
-Drilled, Cold Forged Drag Star
-Dartainium Drag
-Recessed Reel Foot
-Clicking Drag Adjustment
-Metal Plated Finish
-Asymmetrical Spool Window
-Aluminum Frame and Sideplates
-Platinum Premiere Service Plan
-Metal Series
-Approved for use in Saltwater
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About This Reel
Shimano has taken their Digital Control technology to a new level with the Calais DC. The original DC system is excellent for most bass fishing and inshore applications. However, the original Digital Control was not ideally suited for slow spool speed applications like skipping or pitching.
To address slow speed applications Shimano developed the 4x8 Digital Control Brake System. To develop the 4x8 system Shimano analyzed the various environmental and mechanical conditions related to casting. Shimano divided the casting spectrum into four modes and created four profiles to control each one.
X Mode: Extreme Distance - a specific profile that allows for more than 50,000 RPM
L Mode: Long Distance - an all-around profile for most fishing applications
A Mode: Accuracy - an excellent profile for skipping or pitching
W Mode: Wind - a profile for casts into a headwind
Adjusting the 4x8 brake system is a simple process. The sideplate swings open easily once the Escape Hatch is pressed. Once the proper mode is selected and the sideplate returned, the braking system can be fine tuned with the eight settings available on the outside of the sideplate.
The Shimano Calais DC boasts an impressive list of features, but one that is unique to this reel is the tapered titanium levelwind insert. Titanium provides the lowest friction of any Shimano levelwind insert. The tapered design not only makes it easier to thread the line during setup, but further reduces friction and line angles during the cast for more distance.
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Customer Feedback
Comments: Best reel on the market! Japan's version the anteras and our version the calais, in my opinion are the same. Depending if your a JDM junkie then... From fishing ultralight 6lbs drop shooting to firing a swimbait loaded with samurai braid and to topshot of 25lbs, this work of art is the one. You get what you pay for! For those who say its a waste obviously has never fished it, or owns one!
From: Sticky: CA 4/21/15
Comments: I have 10 of these on my g-loomis rods. I have had them for over 5 years now and they still preform and look brand new. If you are looking to make a good investment in a reel for your rods I would recommend these to anyone. Great product Shimano
From: Scott: Harare, Zimbabwe 2/12/15
Comments: I purchased 3 of these last year after I retired and got them for my Christmas. Hands down!! best reel I have ever used and love it! I plan on getting 2 more this year on black Friday. Expensive, yes but you get what you pay for with these reels. Settings are very easy once you figure them out and you know what to use for any situation. Very easy to change your settings. I can not say enough about how nice these are. I was scared to spend so much on a reel but have not regrets they will be around when I am not!
From: Bob: Alexandria, AL 10/6/14
Comments: Hands down one of the best bait casters out there, it is not backlash proof (nothing is) and just like any other tool, you need to how to use it, the skill is in your hand, not the reel. All the poor reviews are OBVIOUSLY from people who don't know how to setup a bait caster. This reel is perfection, slightly heavier than other reels in this price point, but IMO that balances better on rods - an ultra reel on a flipping stick will always lead to a tip heavy feeling. This reel casts a mile and balances nicely, palms nicely, smooth drag, nothing but good to say about it.
From: MQ: BC, Canada 5/14/14
Comments: Good reel, casts good in the wind with proper adjustment. Scratches easy and a bit heavy. Looking forward to the new Stella fi.
From: Edgar: Culver, IN 2/28/14
Comments: I have three of these reels and they are superb. A boat partner kicked one overboard and it was submerged for about 45 minutes till we found it in 9' of water - took us a while 'cause the reel was on the rod which was standing striaght up in the water. I have not disassembled that reel and it fishes perfectly - three years later! I have braid on one for swimbaits and the other two have fluoro and all three are bullet proof. If you set the internal adjustment correctly you can fish in any condition without issues. Great in the wind!
From: Tom: Aurora, CO., USA
Comments: Used my 200DC this past summer on a 7'H GLX throwing 1/2oz and 3/4oz spinnerbaits on 16lb Fluorocarbon. I got to really test the digital technology when casting into head on winds from 20-40km gusts and it worked with ease with no backlashing and incredible distance. Set on "W" it was great as you often are covering water I was throwing downwind, upwind, across the wind etc. You could see it slowing down at times and the line staying tight to the spool. Finish has held up. Unreal cranking power, I could pull anything with this reel handle, in pads fish didn't stand a chance. 5/5
From: Mike: Ontario, Canada
Comments: My new Calais DC is better than the competition but nearly as good as my 10 yr old Calais CL 200-5 centrifical brake. The DC growled on retrieve, terribly out of the box and factory maint. didn't help. It backlashes much more than old Calais. The DC computer backlash curve is not as quick/effective as the old Calais centrifical brake immediately after the casting surge. Please bring back the old Calais and its half the price!!!
From: Chuck: Colville, WA
Comments: After owning a bunch of baitcasters the last few years, ( curado 200e7, abu MGX, Gen2 revo Premier, revo Toro50, curado 300dsv) I finally pulled the trigger on calais dc and never looking back. Gets kinda cold in the winter time chasing steelhead but otherwise just an amazing machine. The best baitcaster I ever owned and if I just saved instead of buying the other reels id have two of these by now. If they made it lighter with different material so it wouldn't be cold to the touch, then it would be perfect. Great summer time use but also used winter time because its that good.
From: John: Rochester, WA
Comments: You will not find a better reel than this. I own a few of them and I have not had one single issue with any one of the units. Simply put, this is the Rolls Royce of reels.
From: G.E.: Chicago, IL
Comments: i agree with all the comments. got one and its the best out there.
From: Tony: TX
Comments: Buying this reel when my income tax comes in next year. Very nice reel but can break the bank.
From: Clayton: AL
Comments: just plain amazing. feel like a pro with this reel each time cast. i can cast and land a lure anywhere i want. im not the best caster when it comes to baitcasters. but some how with this reel i have. awesome reel but not the price
From: Franky: Jacksonville, FL
Comments: Bought this reel for bass fishing. One day we went saltwater fishing with some friends. Took it to put it to the test on some big fighting fish. Well it pass that test. Then it got to windy for popping corks. And we only had baitcasters on the boat. And yes alot of backlashes and motion sickness. So I was the only one casting against the wind with live shrimp. My buddies were so impressed with this reel they bought one for themselves. $650 is alot money for baitcaster. I only bought this reel cause my brother inlaw gave me a $300 TW gift card. Great guy. But if your looking for a serious reel and have money to spend. You will like this reel. I hear Shimano might come out with the same reel, but lighter and even with xship. "Its what I heard". Good luck and enjoy if you get one.
From: Ricky: Pasadena, TX
Comments: Best reel I have ever used for gusty wind conditions. Very reliable all the time, but worth every penny when spinnerbaits in the wind are called for.
From: Mike: Saint Louis, MO
Comments: This reel is a Shimano masterpiece. It was a gift and great gift. Thanks grandpa. I cant afford this right now. But if I had money I would buy a second. This reel is awesome and unbelieve. Best low profile out there. The only flaw is the price and weight. But if you have the money to spend then this reel is all you need. It does it all. Well how can put this. If you love to fish Shimano reels well then this the super reel of them all.
From: Cory: Brain, TX
Comments: looks good but needs to trim some weight off and trim the price, then we'll talk
From: Matt: Lakeville, MN
Comments: This is the best reel ever made! Smooth, cast distance, sound, and hand positioning. Nothing compares
From: Todd: Valley Forge, PA
Comments: A must have for fishing windy conditions. I can make casts right into the wind and not backlash. They are expensive, but worth it. You need to fine tune it for it to work at its best.
From: Randy: West Texas
Comments: The best I have found. Top of the line. Not backlash proof, but once you get set for your casting, it's awesome and accurate.
From: Hank: TX
Comments: this reel is way smoother and much more balance/sturdy and will alway cast further compare to its little bro ...(curado)
Comments: best reel that i've tried so far.
From: Jaycee: TX
Comments: This is a great reel and is one of the best on the market. If you tune it right you can cast your lure a mile. They are a little overpriced but the quality can't be beat.
From: Dustin: USA
Comments: This is simply the best of the best. My fishing has gone to a new level. And to my friends, I always say, don't touch!
From:Chris: New Zealand
Comments: AWESOME REEL, works like magic, love that zing noise too. I paired it with a Megabass DTI rod and hold on to it tight!!!
From:Kenny: Phoenix, AZ


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SugarCRM Snaps Up Four Awards from CRM Magazine
10th Annual CRM Market Leaders Awards Program Recognizes Vendors for Company Direction, Customer Satisfaction, Depth of Functionality
Cupertino, Calif.—August 16, 2011—SugarCRM, the world's fastest-growing Customer Relationship Management (CRM) company, today announced that the company won four awards in CRM magazine's 10th Annual CRM Market Leaders Awards program. Awards were given at last week's CRM Evolution 2011 event in New York.
Vendors were evaluated in the areas of depth of functionality, price, company direction, and customer satisfaction, and SugarCRM took home the following victories:
- Winner – Open Source CRM category
- Leader – Midmarket Suite CRM category
- Leader – Small-Business Suite CRM category
- One to Watch – Sales Force Automation category
In their announcement of this year's award winners, CRM magazine highlighted the positive view of SugarCRM held by leading industry analysts. Michael Fauscette, group vice president for software business solutions at IDC, said, "'Anytime you talk about open-source CRM, Sugar comes up; they're by far the best known and by far the largest.'" In addition, Denis Pombriant, CEO at Beagle Research Group, LLC, referred to SugarCRM as an "'out-of-the-box thinker,'" complimenting the company's "'continually improving…solution set.'" The full article can be found online at destinationcrm.com.
"SugarCRM has had a great year, and it was no surprise to us that they claimed so many awards at CRM Evolution," said David Myron, Editorial Director, CRM and Speech Technology magazines. "Clearly, the CRM market is continuing to evolve very quickly, and it continues to be shaped by this year's CRM Market Leaders like SugarCRM."
"We have over 7,000 customers and more than 850,000 users worldwide who rely on SugarCRM to execute marketing programs, grow sales, retain customers and create custom business applications," said Nick Halsey, chief marketing officer and executive vice president of corporate development for SugarCRM. "We focus on providing customers with a tool that's easy to use, flexible and open, and this recognition from CRM magazine further validates our strong presence in the market."
For more information on Sugar, please visit the SugarCRM resource center. Also, fan SugarCRM on Facebook, follow the company on Twitter and subscribe to the company's YouTube channel. Finally, please Tweet the following: @sugarcrm wins 4 @destinationCRM awards; judged on company direction, customer satisfaction, depth of functionality http://bit.ly/qOU7mg
About CRM magazine
CRM magazine is the leading publication of the customer relationship management industry, covering sales, marketing, customer service, and strategy. The magazine also administers and hosts the annual CRM Evolution conference. Each of these properties is designed to serve customer-centric business initiatives, and leaders who recognize CRM as a key strategy for creating enhanced customer value in any industry. For more information about the magazine, its editorial calendar, or CRM in general, please visit us on the Web at http://www.destinationCRM.com, or on Twitter at @CRM and @destinationCRM. The destinationCRM Web site (which is updated daily) and the monthly magazine are properties of CRM Media, a division of Information Today, Inc.
About SugarCRM
SugarCRM makes CRM simple. As the world's fastest growing customer relationship management (CRM) company, SugarCRM applications have been downloaded more than ten million times and currently serve over 850,000 end users in 80 languages. Over 7,000 customers have chosen SugarCRM's On-Site and Cloud Computing services over proprietary alternatives. SugarCRM has been recognized for its customer success and product innovation by CRM Magazine, InfoWorld, Customer Interaction Solutions and Intelligent Enterprise.?For more information, call (408) 454-6900 or 1 87 SUGARCRM toll-free in the US, email email@example.com, or visit http://www.sugarcrm.com.
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Have a seat, Marcus and Dom. Time for some other hulking soldiers to lead the fight against the Locusts.
The two stars of the Xbox 360's stellar shooter franchise Gears of War step aside for comrades Baird and Cole in the prequel Gears of War: Judgment, a faster-paced action game that features all the chainsaw-filled goodness and intensity players have expected from the series.
Taking place before the start of the Gears of War trilogy, Judgment follows Kilo Squad and its leaders, the wise-cracking Damon Baird and Augustus Cole (known to many players as "Cole Train"). They're joined by cadet Sofia Hendricks and Garron Paduk as they try to save the city of Halvo Bay from a Locust onslaught.
The campaign starts with Kilo Squad on trial, recounting the events of Halvo Bay before a colonel with the Coalition of Ordered Governments (COG). The events of the campaign that players participate in are based on testimony from squad members.
Scattered throughout the campaign are "crimson omens" on walls representing optional, declassified sections of a mission. The declassified portions add a layer of difficulty to combat segments within a campaign chapter. For example, some sections may require players to use only shotguns or limit their ammunition, while others add more challenging Locust enemies such as Corpsers or Reavers. Perhaps the most challenging are moments where vision is impaired by darkness or heavy dust clouds.
Players earn up to three stars for each stage, and "declassifying" a mission will speed up the process. These stars go toward unlocking items for Judgment's multiplayer and cooperative components. Players can also win prizeboxes that unlock additional experience points and weapon skins.
Judgment handles like the traditional Gears of War title. The A button is your best friend for evading enemies, performing "roadie runs" to escape danger and to find cover. Players use the right bumper to reload, jamming their weapon or reloading more quickly depending on timing. Of course, there's also the wonderful weapon selection from Lancers with chainsaw bayonets, Boomshots, Longshots and Gnasher Shotguns. Fresh items are tossed into the mix, including a Breechshot, a sniper rifle without a scope, and a grenade launcher called the Booshka.
The pace is a bit quicker compared to the Gears of War trilogy. Developers at Epic Games ditched the directional pad, making access to weapons and grenades easier. Players now simply toss their grenades while carrying a firearm. Also, they can quickly switch between a pair of weapons with the Y button.
The boost in speed is necessary, considering Judgment tosses every powerful Locust enemy at players from the very start, from smaller wretches to the all-new Rager that grows stronger and tougher after players shoot them. The campaign also takes inspiration from Gears of War's popular Horde mode, as some sections require players to survive waves of Locust to advance. It's pure chaos, but in an exciting way.
Once the Judgment campaign is complete, players unlock a second, shorter Aftermath campaign that takes place alongside events in 2011's Gears of War 3. Baird and Cole are still the stars, as they revisit Halvo Bay.
There's also a handful of online cooperative and competitive modes. The popular Team Deathmatch returns, as does Execution, where two teams of five fight to kill each other within a set time limit. Judgment adds a Domination mode, which fans of first-person shooters such as Call of Duty or Battlefield will recognize. Players must capture targets on a map and hold them to earn points.
The star of multiplayer is Overrun, which pits a Locust team against COG soldiers protecting a generator. COG members choose one of four classes: Scout, Engineer, Soldier or Medic. Each boasts a special ability such as building turrets or handing out ammunition. Players operating as Locusts start out small, fighting as Drones, Tickers or Wretches before earning points and upgrading to more powerful foes such as Serapedes or the Kantus. It requires more strategy and teamwork compared to other Gears of War modes, making it far more enjoyable.
On the strictly cooperative front, Horde mode is replaced by Survival, which is similar to Overrun, only players operate as COG soldiers fighting off waves of Locusts trying to destroy a generator. It's a decent option, but not as satisfying as the epic matches players can put together in the traditional Horde mode.
Fans of the trilogy should find Gears of War: Judgment an exhilarating expansion and another worthwhile reason to rev up the chainsaws.
Publisher: Microsoft
Developer: Epic Games/People Can Fly
Platform(s): Xbox 360
Price: $59.99
Rating: M for Mature
Release Date: March 19
Score: 3.5 stars (out of 4)


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About the Author: Maura M. Pally serves as the Acting Assistant Secretary of State in the Bureau of Educational and Cultural Affairs.
Twenty-two young Russian basketball players are the first to participate in a new sports exchange between the United States and Russia as a result of the efforts of the U.S.-Russia Bilateral Presidential Commission. The Commission was established last year to improve communication and cooperation between the governments of Russia and the United States. The U.S. Department of State's SportsUnited Office brought the Russian basketball players to Washington, DC May 15-29 on a "Sports Visitor" program to take part in basketball skills clinics at various levels, including one taught jointly by the Women's National Basketball Association (WNBA) and by the National Basketball Association (NBA). The group has also engaged with their American counterparts at local high schools and played basketball games with the Boys and Girls Club of America and Amateur Athletic Union teams.
Members of the Russian delegation have been blogging about their trip, and I encourage you to read their blogs, as they describe their impressions of the United States and some of their amazing experiences, such as shooting hoops with President Obama and meeting U.S. Congressman Delahunt, running drills with professional basketball players, eating dinner at the home of Under Secretary for Public Diplomacy Judith McHale, and even serendipitously running into professional basketball player Shaquille O'Neal on the streets of Georgetown.
SportsUnited is an international sports programming initiative designed to help start a dialogue at the grassroots level with non-elite male and female athletes ages 7-17. The programs help youth discover how success in athletics can be translated into the development of life skills and achievement in the classroom. SportsUnited programs, like all of the exchange initiatives organized by the Bureau of Educational and Cultural Affairs, are designed to establish links between individuals in the United States and abroad, and to increase mutual understanding. Visitors from abroad have the opportunity to experience American life and culture, while Americans learn about foreign cultures and the challenges young people from overseas face today.
Macon B. in New York writes:
I read about this program on the Alliance listserv. My question is, which administrative agency adminstered this program? Was the program run directly through the SportsUnited Office or did another organization provide logistical support. Also, did the basketball players come on J-1 visas?
Thank you for time!
O.C. in U.S.A. writes:
How sweet! The President playing basketball with Russian youth. I'd like to see the kids teaching him a typical Russian sport too!
That might be very entertaining!


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Warren's District 10 champion 4X100 relay team of seniors Brooke Armanini and Sabrina Anderson, junior Casey Kulka and sophomore Amy Castagnino were the county's lone all-District 10 team representative when girls track & field all-stars were released on Sunday.
The team broke through at the District 10 Class AAA Championships at Harbor Creek High School in May with a district winning run that sent all four athletes to the state meet at Shippensburg University. The foursome were also awarded Region 3 first-team status in that same event.
They weren't alone.
Another five Lady Dragons individuals and all three relay teams were also named to the Region 3 first-team with another seven selections to the Region 3 second-team.
Sabrina Anderson, the District 10 Class AAA champion in the 100 hurdles, was named a first-team all-star in the event and senior Ellis Beardsley was a four-time first-team all-star. Individually, Beardsley was selected as a first teamer in the 1600 and 800. She was also a member of the first team 4X800 relay team with Anna Falvo, Sydney Paris and Paige Rimer and the first team 4X400 relay team with Valerie Latimer, Tori Paris and Rimer.
Latimer added a first-team selection in the 400, Kulka was a first-team pick in the 200 and Armanini was named the top long jumper in the region.
The second-team picks were nearly as numerous. Rimer was named second team in the 400 and 800, Anderson in the 300 hurdles and high jump, Kulka in the 100, sophomore Nikki Atkins in the shot put and freshman D.J. Hahn in the javelin. Hahn completed an outstanding first season with a runner-up finish in the jav at districts.
In Region 4, the Youngsville Lady Eagles and Eisenhower Lady Knights capped off fine seasons with a number of region all-star selections.
Youngsville boasted a total of five athletes who attained first-team status, including two picks each for Abbie Swartzbaugh and Piper Olsen. Swartzbaugh was a first-teamer in both the 100 and 300 hurdles and Olsen was the top runner in the 3200 and in the 4X800 relay with Kellie Lindstrom, Marissa Byler and Hannah Morris.
Eagles sophomore Mallory Eastman helped Youngsville make it a clean sweep in the hurdles events. After Swartzbaugh was named to the first-team in both events, Eastman followed as a second-teamer in both distances. Lindstrom, a senior, was second team in the 800.
The Lady Knights finished the year with two all-star selections – one first-team pick and one second-team pick.
The Knights' 4X400 relay team of Taylor Talasky, Julia Bauer, Apprille Seamens and Bizz Baran was named to the first team and freshman high jumper Emily McJunkin was named to the second team.
Here are the District 10, Region 3 and Region 4 all-star selections for the recently completed 2013 season:
District 10 All-Stars
(Name, School, Year)
3200 relay: Villa Maria (Clark, Trucilla, Carson, Brown, Prichard)
100 hurdles: Heather Urbanik, Slippery Rock, 11
100: Rebakah Petty, Greenville, 11
1600: Bernadette Prichard, Villa Maria, 9
400: Bethany Evankovich, General McLane, 9
400 relay: Warren (Brooke Armanini, Amy Castagnino, Casey Kulka, Sabrina Anderson)
300 hurdles: Janette Berger, Mercer, 12
800: Claire Brown, Villa Maria, 9
200: Lauren Decker, Grove City, 12
3200: Bernadette Prichard, Villa Maria, 9
1600 relay: Grove City (Casalnova, Decker, Corbin, Lowe)
High jump: Courtney King, Lakeview, 12
Pole vault: Rebekah Petty, Greenville, 11
Long jump: Anna Chodubski, McDowell, 12
Triple jump: Anna Chodubski, McDowell, 12
Shot put: Sophia Fustos, Hickory, 11; Jaynee Corbett, Corry, 12
Discus: Samantha Black, Seneca, 12
Javelin: Rachel DeMaria, West Middlesex, 12
District 10 athlete of the year: Rebekah Petty, Greenville
Region 3 All-Stars
(Name, School, Year)
First Team
3200 relay: Warren (Ellis Beardsley, Anna Falvo, Sydney Paris, Paige Rimer)
100 hurdles: Sabrina Anderson, 12
100: Heather Sternby, Meadville, 11
1600: Ellis Beardsley, Warren, 12
400: Valerie Latimer, Warren, 11
400 relay: Warren (Brooke Armanini, Amy Castagnino, Casey Kulka, Sabrina Anderson)
300 hurdles: Darci Haehn, Corry, 11
800: Ellis Beardsley, Warren, 12
200: Casey Kulka, Warren, 11
3200: Karlee Xander, Corry, 9
1600 relay: Warren (Ellis Beardsley, Valerie Latimer, Tori Paris, Paige Rimer)
High jump: Abby Jones, Franklin, 10
Pole vault: Annie Royek, Corry, 12
Long jump: Brooke Armanini, Warren, 12
Triple jump: Abby Jones, Franklin, 10
Shot put: Jaynee Corbett, Corry, 12
Discus: Jaynee Corbett, Corry, 12
Javelin: Abby Gluvna, Corry, 10
Second Team
3200 relay: Meadville (Whitney, Mullen, Volna, Peters)
100 hurdles: Jordan Lynn, Meadville, 10
100: Casey Kulka, Warren, 11
1600: Brienna Sutherland, Corry, 9
400: Paige Rimer, Warren, 12; Paige Whitney, Meadville, 11; Mary Mullen, Meadville, 12
400 relay: Franklin (Nerlich, Holden, Reed, Conway)
300 hurdles: Sabrina Anderson, Warren, 12
800: Paige Rimer, Warren, 12
200: Tiasha Reed, Franklin, 11
3200: Samantha Whitney, Meadville, 11
1600 relay: Corry (Gottschling, Hall, Greer, Stockton)
High jump: Sabrina Anderson, Warren, 12
Pole vault: Haley Cooke, Franklin, 9
Long jump: Abby Jones, Franklin, 10
Triple jump: Kendell Dickson, Meadville, 11
Shot put: Nikki Atkins, Warren, 10
Discus: Abby Gluvna, Corry, 10
Javelin: D.J. Hahn, Warren, 9
Region champion- Warren
Region athlete of the year- Jaynee Corbett, Corry, 12
Region 4 All-Stars
(Name, School, Year)
First Team
3200 relay: Youngsville (Piper Olsen, Kellie Lindstrom, Marissa Byler, Hannah Morris)
100 hurdles: Abbie Swartzbaughm Youngsville, 12
100: Eve Gardner, Union City, 11
1600: Kelsey Leasure, Seneca, 11
400: Eve Gardner, Union City, 11
400 relay: Iroquois (Cadden, Sharp, Wozniak, Lasher)
300 hurdles: Abbie Swartzbaugh, Youngsville, 12
800: Rebecca Campbell, Iroquois, 9
200: Eve Gardner, Union City, 11
3200: Piper Olsen, Youngsville, 10
1600 relay: Eisenhower (Taylor Talasky, Julia Bauer, Apprille Seamens, Bizz Baran)
High jump: Kym Braine, Seneca, 11
Pole vault: Michaela Krause, Union City, 10
Long jump: Shelby Olson, Iroquois, 11
Triple jump: Caitlyn Krahe, Iroquois, 11
Shot put: Samantha Black, Seneca, 12
Discus: Samantha Black, Seneca, 12
Javelin: Kristy Izbicki, Seneca, 12
Second Team
3200 relay: Seneca (Nye, Kinney, Salter-May, Leasure)
100 hurdles: Mallory Eastman, Youngsville, 10
100: Katie Teed, Seneca, 11
1600: Rebecca Campbell, Iroquois, 9
400: Katie Teed, Seneca, 11
400 relay: Union City (Gardner, Bisbee, Toy, Glass)
300 hurdles: Mallory Eastman, Youngsville, 10
800: Kellie Lindstrom, Youngsville, 12
200: Katie Teed, Seneca, 11
3200: Leah Henderson, Titusville, 12
1600 relay: Seneca (Barnett, Salter-May, Leasure, Teed)
High jump: Emily McJunkin, Eisenhower, 9
Pole vault: Julia Davis, Union City, 12
Long jump: Kym Braine, Seneca, 11
Triple jump: Shelby Olson, Iroquois, 11
Shot put: Kelsey Miller, Iroquois, 11
Discus: Courtney Allen, Titusville, 12
Javelin: Cristea Hammil, Seneca, 9
Region champion- Seneca
Region co-athletes of the year- Samantha Black, Seneca; Eve Gardner, Union City