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SEBILE brings Magic to life in new SOFT Swimmer - 2009 ICAST Winner - Best of Show Soft Lure
The SEBILE Magic Swimmer jointed hardbait has changed the way the angling world thinks about artificial lures. Without a doubt, it is the most realistic baitfish imitation in looks and action to ever hit the water, and nobody has been able to duplicate it in another bait. Well, at least not until now, and it seems only logical that Patrick Sebile himself is the one who did it. New is the Magic Swimmer Soft, the first soft plastic bait on the market for SEBILE. The new version comes with all the advantages of the famous Magic Swimmer hardbait, PLUS it can be fished weedless. The Magic Swimmer Soft is a jointed soft plastic bait that swims as good as the original, something many said couldn't be done. The hand-painted color finishes for the soft version are also equally impressive accomplishments. Together the intricate details and realistic swimming action bring life to the lure.
Available in the 105 mm and 130 mm size (approximately 4" and 5", respectively), the body has an "envelope" area molded in with an opening at the belly that receives, and conceals most of a 5/0 worm hook inside the bait, requiring the hook go only through a small section of plastic in the upper back portion for enhanced fish-hooking efficiency. Rigging is also easier because "hook holes" are molded into the lure at both the entry position in the nose and at the exit location in the back. When rigged, the hook's point is concealed in a recessed groove in the top of the lure's back, making it weedless.
The Magic Swimmer Soft ProPack comes with lure bodies plus the innovative new SEBILE Soft Weight System, also designed by Patrick Sebile. The system includes a super-sharp 5/0 offset worm hook of a wire size that perfectly fits the special 1-gram tungsten barrel weights. With a hole through the middle and special coating, the weights can be "screwed" on or off the hook's shank for the easy addition or reduction of weight.
Also, since the weights' coating holds them snugly in place, they can be moved forward toward the head of the bait to create an angled fall of about 45 degrees, or slid back toward the bend of the hook to weight the lure's belly so that the bait descends almost horizontally or level. Of course, the Magic Swimmer Soft can also be fished weightless and casts easily by its own weight. The lure can be rigged with a variety of hooks and jigheads and be fished many different ways in fresh and saltwater.
When rigged weedless, the lure can be cast into just about any kind of cover. The lure also makes a great "skipping bait," for skipping under docks, mangroves and many other overhanging obstacles. The Magic Swimmer Soft can also be Texas-rigged, Carolina-rigged and fished on a drop-shot rig. The Magic Swimmer Soft 130 mm ProPack comes with three bodies, one hook and six tungsten weights.
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Comments: Very versatile bait. Catches big smallies when nothing else seams to work. The only problem is I am having a hard time switching to other baits. This is primarily all I use now. Pike, largemouth, smallmouth, pickeral. I wish I knew about this lure when I lived in Jupiter Fl. fishing for snook or as a pitch bait offshore.
From: Anthony: Grosse Pointe, Mi, USA
Comments: this bait looks incredibly realistic. however, in the entire pack i only had one that would swim true. I also wasnt a big fan of the soft weights. Mine all tore off the hooks. Im now looking more into mattlures, hudds, and trash fish.
Comments: This is not a fluke, its swimbait, it swims good and for cover its great. I have both sizes, I like it and its good. I plan to use it when fishing for toothy fish. God bless you all and good fishing always.
Comments: like the last comment pretty much 15 dollar flukes with a little swimming action, although still beeter than a fluke i found that the lake fork magic shad is my favorite out of all.
From: Jim: Ft. Polk, LA
Comments: $15 flukes. They look nice and are awesome fished as a jekbait, but when slow steady retrieved they have no tail movement and swim on their side
From: Tim: TX
Comments: This bait swims very well but i suggest the smaller version. I have larger one and it swims great but I suggest getting smaller one unless you have average 10lb+ bass. I have average 3-4 lbers so i suggest smaller version. Good fishing always!!
Comments: Read the reviews....amazing bait----I was skeptical to fish this(no Tail) but the jerk bait/swiming action is amazing-----bass all day long!
From: Bunker: Haymarket, VA
Comments: Sunday. 1/23/11. 39 degrees. Bank fishing a 50 acre retention pond just outside RSW Airport, Ft Myers Fl. Cold SouthWest Florida morning but it has been warm enough so the girls are moving up on to the beds. This morning however they were staying deeper, just out of sight. I tossed a 130mm Natural Shiner out past the drop off, swam it in over the trough where I'd be hanging out if I were a Fat Bass and stopped to let it sink. You know the saying "They hit it on the fall"? Well I've never felt a Bass hit a bait harder. Crushed doesn't begin to describe it. I thought it was a Gator for a moment...seriously. After a bit she came up and was too big to jump. I had no way to weigh her but I've caught a 10-5 and this one was bigger and fatter, 11+ I'm sure. This is a great bait with excellent action. The soft weight system is pretty cool too. Highly recommended. G.Loomis 7'2" Frog Rod, Revo STX, Power Pro 65 Braid.
From: Zach: Ft. Myers, FL
Comments: My #1 go to bait for pressured smallies or cold water conditions. Better then average walleyes smashing this bait!!
From: Ken: Boulder, CO
Comments: still hoping to catch a fish on this fisherman catcher
From: Jeff: Jersey
Comments: This is the best lure i have ever used. It always catches fish bass and pike even walleyes. They get tore up after a few nice fish but a lil mend it glue and there good to go for a few more. Just a great lure.
From: Zack: Wisconsin, USA
Comments:This is a must have soft plastic bait. Best lure I have fished with this year, bass and pike love them. I need to get more, lost 6 of them last fishing outing to some very hungry toothy critters. PS: amazing bait, try them and you will be hooked on them.
From:Steve: Canada
Comments:This swimbait officially became my favorite this week! A 22lb sack on a lake that usually tops out at 13-14lbs. The action is so erratic when fished weightless and it comes through cover very well!!
Comments:Received this bait as a Christmas present from my daughters. On the second cast I caught a 6 pounder on the day after Christmas. This is one of the best baits I have ever used!
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I'm American but I live in Korea. I have to have hot oatmeal in the morning. It fills me up and keeps me until lunch. This is very easy to cook and I usually make it in the microwave. Just add some milk (I use soy milk due to allergies) and some honey and cinnamon. Delicious morning treat!
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Love these, nice taste and crunch to them! Bought one bag and two more of these are on their way!
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From 25th June to 3rd July, 17 young people from 11 European countries and Canada participated in an Arctic Climate Training onboard a ship sailing around Svalbard during which they experienced first-hand the rapid changes affecting the Arctic. The participants between the ages of 20 and 30 examined the environmental, geo-political and socio-cultural impacts of climate change and return to their countries with greater motivation, commitment and a network to drive understanding and action on how and why we need to become more environmentally responsible citizens.
With content designed and delivered by GRID-Arendal, the training programme was supported by the British Council and Youth in Action. Using interactive formats, participants learnt about the challenges facing the Arctic and sustainable development in this sensitive region.
Participants all developed projects which will be implemented locally after their return with support from the EU's Youth in Action programmes. They will also engage with high-level policy-makers in the European Parliament and become part of the British Council's global Climate Generation network which empowers young people to bring about change locally and build the global movement towards a safer future.
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I wrote to you awhile back about the sound quality of my Lyrick installed on a Taylor DN8. I installed as per instruction. You wrote back saying to move the mic towards the treble side of the bridge plate and angle it. Ive tried that and it still sounds honky (BOXY) and just plain lousy.As a previous user commented, sound like a midrange notch filter.
Do you have any other suggestions as to what to do? I feel like I am out $200 and my guitar sound horrible.
Should I try taking it off the bridge plate and move somplace else? Its a fairly expensive guitar.
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Ok, i'm a noob and a tea addict
I've been lurking in this forum for the past three weeks and like dbradley said this seemed the best thread for my first post.
Now let's get to my answers
How long have you been drinking tea?
Since I was two, according to my mother. Unfortunately I discovered the joys of loose leaf tea only four years ago, which means I've been using tea bags for 18 of my (almost) 24 years...regrettable, isn't it?
What was your first Tea?
My first serious tea was a Steinthal second flush darjeeling, followed two days later by a gunpowder (Twinings). I knew I had discovered a new world and just couldn't wait to explore it all, after four years I'm still exploring and learning, and it's awesome.
What is your favorite Tea currently?
Fuji Yama from Mariage freres, but I intend to deepen my knowledge of Japanese teas
What is your next purchase?
I still have to decide if I want a Kyusu or a Yixing, but I think the kyusu will come first.
Where is your favorite spot to brew up?
Definitely my parents kitchen in the dead of night, when the house is finally silent and I can read and drink tea quietly
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Windings reaches record sales in September
NEW?ULM – Windings Inc., a privately held company headquartered in New Ulm, has hit a record in sales. Its highest sales month to date was September 2013.
Jason Retzlaff, vice president of sales and marketing at Windings Inc, credits this accomplishment to the dedicated employee owners who have put in long hours and worked diligently building stators and rotors to take the company further than it has ever been.
"We have applied a great deal of resources toward understanding our customer's needs in an effort to provide a truly remarkable experience when dealing with Windings. Our employee owners have bought this into focus, and we are striving to be the worldwide leaders when it comes to service, quality, and technology of our custom stator and rotor products. Without the drive and passion of our EOs, none of this would be possible and I cannot thank them enough for all they have done to hit this historic milestone in the history of Windings," Retzlaff stated in a press release.
Windings Inc.'s vision is to grow the value of the enterprise while being remarkable. The quality found in the stators, rotors, and motor/generators builds are the highest they can be because of the hand work that goes into each one. This hand craftsmanship also brings affordable pricing to the customer.
About Windings Inc.
Windings Inc. was established in New Ulm in 1965 by J.W. McKinney. Upon McKinney's retirement in 1983, Windings Inc. was sold to R.D. Ryberg, the company's current chairman. In 1989, 1991 and 2005 the New Ulm facility was enlarged and upgraded for added operation and expand the coil windings production.
In 1998, Windings Inc. formed an Employee Stock Ownership Plan for a planned purchase and transition of company stock to the employees of Windings. The higher sense of responsibility that comes with employee ownership has made Windings even more responsive to customer needs and encourages innovation to bring greater value to its customers. In 2008, the company became 100 percent employee-owned. The current president/CEO of Windings is Jerry Kauffman.


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Happy Labor Day, America!
Greetings everyone worldwide. Please drop in and share this TeaDay holiday with your American friends on TeaChat. Share what is in your cup ... and discuss the topic of the day.
Yesterday we discussed fave tea for August. Please continue to discuss yesterday's topic.
Today's teaPoll and discussion topic. Is there a type of TeaWare that you would like personalized, specialized, even in-house tutoring on its purchase and/or use brewing and/or serving/drinking? Please share.
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TeaGuru2737 wrote:Thanks guys! I am here on my own and in my free time. I am not an official messenger of any sort and my words are not statements from the company, I am just someone who loves tea and wants to chat about it in a positive light! Because that's what tea is, a happy drink =)
TeaGuru2737 wrote:I'm glad! It should be fun chatting with everyone. As Bryan_Drinks_Tea noted, not too many opinions will be changing anytime soon but that's ok! Hopefully with some banter you guys will see that we're just as passionate about tea as you! But I'm happy to answer any questions you guys might have that don't conflict with company policy =)
TeaGuru2737 wrote:So many people are satisfied though, with prices and the product. I was a customer before I was hired as a team lead and never had an issue with sales. I'd love coming in and filling my tins and every time I did they'd always show me new teas, sometimes I'd get new ones to take home and other times I'd speak up and tell them no.
needaTEAcher wrote:Here here Chip. Time HAS told. The exception makes the rule.TeaGuru2737 wrote:So many people are satisfied though, with prices and the product. I was a customer before I was hired as a team lead and never had an issue with sales. I'd love coming in and filling my tins and every time I did they'd always show me new teas, sometimes I'd get new ones to take home and other times I'd speak up and tell them no.
As per prices, it seems to me that most of us agree that the prices do not reflect the quality of the products, thus it comes across that the company is taking advantage of people's lack of knowledge of the tea world and maybe even intentionally misleading the employees and thus the customers to make extra money. Seems decidedly not OK to me.
Jenn wrote:Hi, I am new to this site so nice to meet everyone.
Anyway, I actually found this site because of my love of tea and my dislike of my recent experiences at Teavana. I have been in two Teavanas in NJ and both have been an equally negative experience. The sales associates are completely overbearing, pushy and act like they are knowledgable but really are not because when asked questions that are apparently not in their "script", they cannot answer it and I feel will make up things. If it were not for my interest in starting to experiment with loose leaf teas with such ease, I would have even gone in there. It's interesting when I ask to see the selection of black teas, only the most expensive one ($18.50) gets pulled out. I ask to see the others and the sales guy is basically like, oh this is the best and the other is cheap. I actually did wind up buying the cheap one ($3.80 for the 2 oz) which was about $4 because they can't do it exactly (now I know what that's all about) and it tasted terrible. When I went back to ask why it tasted so terrible (I am used to drinking all brands of black tea in tea bags), he said again, "it's cheap." So now I am on to him and I ask, "well if that's the case, why is it that my Lipton tea bags are much cheaper and taste good?" He couldn't answer. Of course not! Another guy tried to sell me their $20 thermometer so again I am on to him with the sales stuff and I ask "how is this thermometer different than the $5 one in the kitchen store?" He seems stuck but then comes back with "This one is guaranteed to be accurate with the temperatures of the teas." So I say "And so is the $5 one, it's the same thing, what is the actual difference in how they are made?" He could not answer so I say "I will stick to the one I have." I also say "And, if it's one degree off, no one will notice!" I loved when I just asked a question about the tea, there is a quick response followed by "and how much will you be taking with you today?" And the tins, oh come on! The teas will only stay good in THEIR tins? Like the tea leaves are alive and can read the outside of the tin that says "Teavana"!! I have such a distrust for them that I am actually questioning two things:
1. The cheap black tea, did they put something non-toxic in there to make it taste bad so I would come back and say "you are right, give me the expensive one!" (Which I admit I did and am happy with the expensive one unfortunately)
2. The samples of the youthberry/orange blossom by the door, is there something addictive added in there to make customers want to buy it? (I actually tried the samples a few times and kept feeling drawn to come back)
I say these examples half kidding but there is a small part of me that is not. When a number of sales people are like this, it really makes you distrust. Years ago, I remember Home Depot used to say their whole company was based on selling the person only what they need, the smallest amount possible. Why? Because he/she would keep coming back. If you go for the big sale, you will lose them. I see truth to this.
Thanks for letting me vent. I look forward to being on this board.


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The world recognizes March 8 as International Women's Day. During her recent travel to the Middle East, Secretary Clinton met with women who are developing their own businesses through a microcredit program. Promoting women's economic and political participation is an important element of U.S. foreign policy and a key component of democratic development.
How best can women's rights be expanded internationally?
Christine in California writes:
Educated women are empowered women. Empowered women empower others women in return.
Elizabeth in Israel writes:
The best way to expand women's right is to promote democracy. The gender inequality in the Middle Eastern countries stems from the state's control over areas of personal life. The regimes use Sharia law to maintain their credibility as representing the traditional values of the people (instead of "foreign" values such as human rights). When democratic, popularly supported governments will be established in the Middle Eastern countries, women will be able start enjoying the rights to drive cars, divorce, walk outside without having to cover yourself, express yourself freely in public, watch soccer games and get elected to public office.
Rosemary in New Jersey writes:
We need to start in our own backyard. We cannot be a leader on the global front when we are so far behind in this country.
I am joyful to see our new Secretary of State putting forth such positive initiatives on the world stage. Her style and charm will certainly warm up our relations with some countries and entities that have been feeling a cold American shoulder in past years. But I cannot watch her working so hard without remembering how last year at this time she was subjected to terrible treatment by the media and by her own party.
After she suspended her campaign and the nomination process was over, the vitriol shifted to the Vice Presidential nominee of the Republican Party.
I have never seen male candidates treated the way these two exceptional women were. This treatment of women candidates is unacceptable and must stop.
The New Agenda: http://thenewagenda.net/goals/ has set 10 goals for action in the U.S. We need to address these issues within our own country before we can expect the world to take us seriously on women's rights.
This is Goal #3:
"Increasing the Number of Women in Elected National Office
At present, women make up only 16% of the House of Representatives and 16% of the Senate. The United States is ranked 69th out of 195 nations in number of women in national office. In fact, the United States is standing behind Rwanda, Cuba and Argentina. This is a national embarrassment to all and must be remedied."
A good start might be passing, finally, the Equal Rights Amendment. We need only three more states to ratify.
I know that none of this is really the purview of the Department of State, but if we are to be a credible leader in the world on women's rights, we must first adjust the way 52% of our own population is treated and represented.
Mariacristina in Virginia writes:
As a foreign born citizen, I have been able to see boths sides of the issue, the women's rights struggle of the women in our great U.S.A. vs. the strugles of the inernational woman, I was born in the Republic of Panama;neither is easy to understand. While the American woman now has more opportunities to work and have a business and be respected, it is still difficult for the foreign born woman to be able to be taken serious. I would like to see more companies or government agencies be able to provide a venue through which the foreign born woman is afforded the opportunity to grow and develop. Diversity in the workplace is nothing to fear it is something that needs to be embraced. As for the International woman, I'm very much interested in a program that would offer the women in the community where I was born, the city of David, Republic of Panama, the opportunity to further their education paid for by their employer. You may say we do this here now, yes, but we are talking about the U.S.extending a hand of opportunity to the business community in that city to look into this type of program. It is proven that help that is offered to women is seldom a bad decision. When the woman has been given an opportunity to grow it benefits the family, the children and overall the entire community.
Melissa in Pennsylvania writes:
Ask women in each country what THEY want/need; what is important to them. Our western ideas are not one size fits all. The last thing these women need is the west telling them what is best for them. They know. Listen to them. Trust them.
Marcia in Illinois writes:
I think women developing their own business is very important, especially in developing countries. It can give them economic security and economic independence. As an entrepreneur in the food industry, I have seen many women take a food product idea, commercialize it and grow it into a financially viable business. I think it would be wonderful if every women learned the key fundamentals of starting their own business. We could certainly use more women at the top of the food chain instead of being the ones doing the shopping, preparing, serving and cleaning up.
Eric in New Mexico writes:
@ Rosemary in New Jersey -- Rosemary,
Since no one is preventing women from running for office, and a woman's electability is determined by the confidence she illicits from the public the same way men are elected, I don't see that the U.S. government could do anything within constitutonal boundaries to change the stats.
It's not like folks can set gender quotas for Congress.
And unless more women are willing to take the stage, take the heat of the spotlight, and make a contribution, I really don't have a solution to offer you. The ten points aside, if U.S. women aren't stepping up to the plate, it'll be hard for them to break glass ceilings.
But I don't think it reflects on the U.S. gov. the way you suggest, for State's efforts at international woman's issues (rights, health, employment, microlending...) are completely credible in the eyes of those these programs target for assistance around the world.
I would have to say in closing that no one in my living memory (man or woman) has been more politically villified, "misunderstimated", lampooned, cursed for being alive let alone President, bashed by the press, bashed by the public, and had his character assasinated on a routine daily basis more than George W Bush.
Now I do appreciate what you said about the women candidates in this last election, and I found it to be typical gutter politics as usual, sad but true.
I just think you were forgetting someone when you made that statement.
Judith in New York writes:
For starters we needed to deal with religious and cultural oppression of women. We are afraid of offending the religious men.
Next, microbusinesses are a real possibiltiy of economic independence for women. Therefore microloans and grants are critical. \
Third, girls absolutely must be permitted to attend school
Melissa in Pennsylvania writes:
@ Eric in New Mexico -- "It's not like folks can set gender quotas for Congress."
Why not? They do it in Scandinavia.
Alegre in Maryland writes:
It starts with educating girls. When girls are educated they stand a better chance of controling their reproductivity. If they can do that, they can build and run a business or make their voices heard in the governing of their communities or their nation.
Ali in Texas writes:
I think the best we in the U.S. can do is practice what we preach. We talk equality but we are not represented in elected positions consistent with our percentage of the populations. We should see the Nanny Tax for what it is - the modern day woman's poll tax. It's keeping good women out of politics and no elected woman today should feel smart about having paid hers. When women make 77 cents on the dollar to be in the workforce, they have already paid their tax to this country. Going after a woman running for public office because she had the sense to work and get child care should be treated as shameful. More women should treat not paying taxes on child care as an act of civil disobedience and I hope Hillary Clinton understands what is wrong with taxes being levied on child care once a Nanny is paid a mere $1400 in a calendar year. That's working for less than $5 per day. The government has a long history of tax breaks and subsidies for such thing as raising tabacco and timber; it's about time it did as much for raising our children. Developing businesses is key - but woman's political participation is even more important. We need to fire up getting 51 women in the U.S. senate for starters. We shouldn't be fooled into electing only women with one ideology. Given that all four republican women senators voted for the Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, we can once again feel the cohesion of that group called women, despite party affiliation.
AG in Georgia writes:
Oh, that's a beautiful picture!
I think the first thing is to make sure that when there are questions of womens' rights and intersectionality of religion/culture/race etc., there is a consistent approach to every issue. So whether the discussion is about FGM in Palestine or about honor killings in Pakistan, or about FGM/honor killings in the USA by American citizens, the administration is speaking in ONE voice and following the same policies, reacting the same way globally. This is where the US has badly tripped up in the last eight years and this is where Hillary and the State Dept can really add value, by showing that you care truly about women, and that you respect all cultures, races, religions and contexts.
Second, all those individual freedoms and cultural practices are NO EXCUSE for trampling on any human being's fundamental rights. No culture is sacrosanct or has rights over an individual's life, liberty and freedoms of speech. No religion has automatic control over people. And this is something that needs to be practiced and spoken at home and abroad.
Either way, we have full faith in our new Madame Secretary and wish her and the Department all the very best.
And this is going to sound funny, but: Thank you for supporting women's rights!
Rosemary in New Jersey writes:
@ Eric in New Mexico -- Eric,
Fair enough - I did forget about George Bush - but the bashing was very different from what happened to the women.
I didn't mean to imply that the government could or should set quotas, but the last election cycle did illustrate that the playing field is not level, and women candidates are held to different standards than men are.
Forgive me if I am still a little raw from all of that. But having watched it, I don't wonder that women are not stepping up to the plate. Who would want to subject herself to what Hillary and Sarah went through?
Anyhow, sorry I forgot about George W. I do have a soft spot for him ;)
Lara in India writes:
I agree with other posts, from my field work, the number one factor that I see changing women's lives is education. The more education a woman has the more knowledgeable she becomes about her options. In my work, I notice education is the catalyst for women's progress.
Chevalier in Georgia writes:
@ Eric in New Mexico -- first - I don't know which planet you've been living on for the last few years, but women and men do NOT get the same kind of treatment - at home, at work, in showbiz, in industry, while availing healthcare - and definitely not in politics. The reason this country does not have a woman president is not because women don't "step up". Shame on you for such unqualified, non-fact-based stereotypes. The reason women aren't in higher office in this country, but are widely present everywhere in every other country is because of bigotry, double standards directed at them as we saw last year with Sen Clinton's candidacy, and later, Gov. Palin's nomination.
Second, I think you meant 'elicit' not 'illicit'.
Third, when you say "I don't think it reflects on the U.S. gov. the way you suggest" you are wrong. A government that does not represent 52% of the population it is governing is clearly a poor excuse of a representative system, and a sham.
Fourth - "I don't see that the U.S. government could do anything within constitutional boundaries to change the stats." - not true.
The ten points specifically point to several action items by individuals, by organizations, by communities and by the government. For example, the U.S. govt could set up a Presidential Commission for Women. The state govts could help ratify the ERA and ensure equal rights for women. The US Senate and House could help pass the Paycheck Fairness Act. The current President could make sure his cabinet has more than the paltry 16% women that it currently does. The U.S. govt could start programs that support and encourage women in politics, and make the playing field a little more level for everyone.
And none of this is new or radical. Governments around the world have done precisely this and have seen excellent results - an increase in overall governance standards, more inclusive governmental policies, focused on development (precisely what is needed in these times), and higher living standards - education, healthcare, etc. for their citizenry. It's not much of a reach for a self-proclaimed 'sole superpower' to do so as well.
Stacy in Massachusetts writes:
The U.S. should continue to promote women's rights worldwide and human rights in general because women's rights *are* human rights. We can't let the current economic crisis distract us from our responsibilities on this front and nobody is better positioned than Secretary Clinton to advance women's rights on the international stage.
PJ in U.S.A. writes:
Over the past ~18 months, one thing has been made downright clear, and it shames me to say this, - we need women to help women. Not because men are not capable, but because we collectively do not have enough will, desire or downright outrage at doing something about what is fundamentally wrong. A prime example is how this nation stood up with the sexist vilification of two prime women candidates through every possible form of media outlet - individual and mass. Another is the violence against women in Bangalore, India becuase they choose to wear clothers and/or behave in a manner deemed by some select men to be "inappropriate".
To me this means, and just as the first step, we need more women and the right women in positions of power where they can influence and enable women across the world to help themselves.
If there is one thing that each of you can do, then it should be to look carefully at the next woman candidate you see running for a electable position in your neighbourhood, town, city, state, country or another other position. Not because she is a woman, but because of what she brings to the table. Because of her own merit and her capabilities, and not just because of her "sex". And for those who hide behind the mask of "there arent any / enough qualified women for me to elect", start with educating the girl child - in your home or anywhere that you might have influence. And teach them to stand up for what is truly their right.
Ellen in Georgia writes:
Senator Clinton, The best way to expand women's rights internationally is to educate women about current rights they do have and how to enforce these rights. Girls as well as boys must be educated in every country. We also need to educate women in schools and to help them start their own businesses.
Jeff in California writes:
Women are precious and undeserved in this world. I believe strongly that as we (U.S. and countries who do not hate us) band together to raise healthcare standards for women and their children, women's rights follow closely.
I watched that happen from afar as my (female) cousin, who is a gifted surgeon, was invited to Saudi Arabia to consult on women's health -- especially their breast cancer crisis. Very positive women's rights matters happened there in the "slip stream" opportunity created by focusing on expanding healthcare to the under-served in our world. Contact me if you would like a few more details.
Bilqis in New York writes:
Before expanding women's rights, in many parts of the world they need to be recognized as valid and beneficial to all of society. Through the creative use of games, history books, technology, conversation, public announcements, among other methods, show the inextricable nature of the relationship between the (lack of) contributions of women and the social, economic, and political (in)stability of a nation. A connection must be made between women as active, publicly respected and recognized agents of change and the nation's ability to realize its goals. This must be incorporated into a culture on a daily basis and utilized with consistency, especially with youth. Focus on children's games, incorporate the theme into soap operas (if that is a popular cultural escape). This effort should not be made from atop of a soap box, but introduced to a society in an indirect way so that it bypasses egos and penetrates the subconscious. Repeated with consistency, people will come to the conclusion on their own that the economic and political participation of women is an important agenda, and that social regard for the quality of ideas and products produced by women affect the national GDP and reputation of the nation, in general. Most important of all, these efforts towards expanding women's rights MUST be put into action with and through local leaders so that this information comes from within. No outside country should go to another and tell them what to do, guide them to come up with what is wanted. This will avoid falling into the "colonizer vs. colonized" scenario, which is an effective manner of rousing an emotional response from natives and discrediting outside nations, no matter how great their idea. Working with local leaders empowers citizens and influences them TO WANT to work towards realizing a particular effort even if it was originally born in the mind of an outside nation.
Marianne in Florida writes:
Thank you Madaam Secretary,
I think that the answer to International Women's rights is many-fold, and might lie in several fronts.
For one, what about using trade as leverage with countries to offer an incentives for them to offer women more rights, such as education... thus extending our hand to those who unclench their fist. Perhaps this could include a foreign exchange program in education, allowing different cultures to develop empathy for eachother. Perhaps our volunteer organizations, such as Peace Corp can be part of this... again, using leverage of what countries want.
In the end as I refer to Thomas P.M. Barnett in his thoughts, we want other countries to trust that the more trade they do with the United States, the safer the world will be. When all the sides of the trade agreements can believe this, it can be so! We are the leaders of this world. The world looks to us to set the standard and we have so many lessons that we can share. We have a new leader leading a new changing world, and he's got the helm like no captain I've ever seen before. No offense to your husband.
Incentives do not have to be in the form of money. Let's trade in our skills, safety, security and services. We have a country with a mass consumer appetite. Let's stop trying to bribe countries and criminals into behaving, and start waving that carrot of trade!
Thank you.
Wendy in California writes:
So many cogent remarks. Let me first quickly remind folks that in our very own U.S.A., there are NO absentee ballots or vote-by-mail in the Caucus States in the primary season. In the thousands of phone calls I made into Caucus States, I heard, "Oh no, honey, I can't caucus, I'm off balance." These folks can't use a ride. They need a Vote-By-Mail ballot.
Even in the general, the so-called absentee ballot availability is pretty much of a sham. In Philly, for instance, you practically have to be IN an ambulance to be allowed an Absentee Ballot. This is wrong. Oregon votes 100% by mail. In California, we have permanent vote-by-mail (a paper trail!!) which you keep once you sign up unless you miss two major elections.
This lack of or odious difficulty of vote-by-mail particularly disenfranchises older women and women with children.
I think the idea of bypassing the ego, particularly the testostero-adrenal supercharged religious/political ego has wisdoms, but all facets of smart power ought be deployed methinks. When young women see SecState Hillary talk about women's rights, it give their imaginations a quantum jolt. Seeing her sure makes me wish I were young enough to begin on the diplomat's path myself.
When women have jobs, they also usually have most of the household jobs to do too. It would help if women brought up boys to be useful.
I have a friend who was in Hazmat (handling hazardous materials.) He became the woman he felt he truly was and as a "she," s/he was dumbfounded, disgusted, and enraged by the treatment of women.
Education, more & more & more laptops, and an insistence on legal respect and recourse are certainly essential steps -- here and planetwide. State (Hurray state dot gov Team!) could probably set up a virtual International Women's Day not once a year but once a month with the Traveling Virtual Conferencing Team.
Set up Sister (Middle) Schools between, first, one school in each USA state and then two in each state etc. Make them part of each other's curriculum with projects and communications and virtual conferences where ever possible. Have each class penpal their sister class. Send art back & forth to each other.
Patsy in U.S. writes:
Outreach, talk, action, and always respect, patience, compassion. Women need to know how other women live and study other cultures. I believe that concentrating on goals and what we'd like to see in common, ie better futures for our families, would bring good results. Education is important, but it must be the right kind of education. So much of establishment education is destructive, not instructive. Economic security/independence is very important, as well. I guess I'm saying that understanding and sensitivity is key to reaching out to women around the world. We must unite and find common ground in order to make important changes.
Rosemary in New Jersey writes:
@ Chevalier in Georgia -- Thanks for answering Eric in NM. I did not want to be too picky and abrasive (and be moderated out), but the illicit/elicit usage did bother me. Thanks for mentioning it.
@ Eric in New Mexico -- Perhaps my comments are not as outrageous as you made them appear. I did apologize for forgetting President Bush. I did not see your apology for overlooking the terrible treatment of Sen. Clinton and Gov. Palin.
I am not the only one who was bothered by it.
Karen in New York writes:
Perhaps, when the Beacon of the world can elect a more than qualified President who just happens to be a female-someone like...Madame Secretary.
Eric in New Mexico writes:
Oh my,(chuckle)...If I had a buck for everytime I've been misinterpreted, I'd be happily retired by now.
Let's start with George W. I don't know if anyone's noticed, but you hardly hear anyone talk about him now, like collective amnesia resulting from everyone being sick and tired of talking about him for the last 8 years, and so I was simply reflecting on the human condition inherent in his lack of mention, not as some dark criticism of Rosemary's comment.
@ Chevalier in Georgia -- With a 5000 character limit Chevalier, it is not possible to address all the aspects of women in the workplace.
Now in 30 years of construction, 10 years as a professional recording studio engineer, 5 in restaurants, and about 150 other types of jobs in a 35 year work history from 14-49 , many overlapping and two jobs at once while remodelling my own home and being a full time dad with a wife(now x)that earned more than I did as an RN; We have some fundemental experiential differences in perspective, and all are valid as experienced, mine no less than your's.
I've worked with, for, and hired women.
In all that time the only determination of pay was as witnessed to be a) Skill set and experience, B) attitude and team player ability, C) consistancy and reliability.
Nothing else mattered more in upward mobility on the job than that.
However, there's always exceptions. If you've ever seen the movie "Charlie Wilson's War" there's a scene in which a preacher from Texas makes remark to Senator Wilson's secretary that he'd never seen so many beautiful women working in the same place. To which she remarked, " The Senator has a saying, You can teach them to type, but you can't teach them to grow tits."
Being a man, I don't suppose you ladies will grasp what it feels like to be refused a job because you can't grow tits, but there's two sides to gender bias in the workplace, I can assure you.
So whatever planet you may think I come from, I'm a man who fell to Earth, grounded by reality.
Beam me the hell up Scotty, there's no fairness doctrine here.
@ Eric in New Mexico -- "It's not like folks can set gender quotas for Congress."
Why not? They do it in Scandinavia.
@ Melissa in Pennsylvania-- Because Melissa, it would take a constitutional ammendment to make it law.
Current constitutional boundaries just don't have a provision to allow it.
I suppose it could be done, but was Affirmitave Action targeted at Congress? No. Why? Because the only constitutionally allowed method to seat a Congressman or Congresswoman is by the popular vote of the people.
Say you have two male candidates in a district and no female running, yet the quota demands the district elect a woman to Congress. OK, well the men have the option of getting a sex change opp. I guess, or the next congresswoman from the district would be no one running for the vote of confidence of the people, but one simply apointed by decree.
And that ain't democratic.
(with the case of Obama's former senate seat, such a rare situation proves the legal exception to the rule.)
@ Rosemary in New Jersey -- Rosemary, I didn't ask you to appologize because you didn't need to, Why should I appologize?, I already addressed it in my first post.
"Now I do appreciate what you said about the women candidates in this last election, and I found it to be typical gutter politics as usual, sad but true."
Going after Palin's family was going into the sewer, but then who here remembers Jimmy Carter's brother Billy. "Billy Beer" anyone?
This was no precedent in politics, it was same old same old tired partisanship and the ethicly brain dead fourth estate munching down on "dirty laundry", and I won't feel the need ever to appologize for other's bad behavior when I'm not involved in it.
As far as priorities went in this election, the public excised the race deamon from the political landscape by electing Barack Obama, and we can truly say we've emerged from the dark ages of segregation.
The public felt that electing a woman president was just as viable and doable and revolutionary, so where's the bias? Sec. Clinton proved it could be done. Do you hear her complaining about it because she didn't get the nod from her party?
I think this is turning into a real interesting discussion. Where it will go, nobody knows....(chuckle).
Ole in New York writes:
Women's rights are best expanded by standing up to those who deny them. incentives ultimately get swallowed by those tyrants we try to appease and soften with them, while the threat of punishment, even to the effect of losing power over their countries, force oppressors to make concessions and reforms. And it's true not only in regard of women's rights, but all human rights, democracy etc. Sun Kyi Mun has been under house arrest for almost 20 years, after winning presidential election in Burma; how do you force the junta there to allow her assume power, by incentives? They don't seem to respond to that. now, talk about the abuse and denial of women's rights -- this is possibly the most outrageous such case of them all! And let's not doubt our own righteousness here. for all its shortcomings, in election process, wage disparity and whatever not, U.S.A. is the beacon of women's and generally human rights for the rest of the world. whatever we have here to improve, is in much better shape than in Iran, China or Russia, so we have full right to criticize them, and sanction if necessary
Melissa in Pennsylvania writes:
@ Eric in New Mexico -- I do believe there is a question posed at the top of this post, and that you're the only one who hasn't offered an answer, only criticism. All you've done is take up space and talk down to the very thoughtful, intelligent women participating here, thus proving our point re: the treatment of women in our own oh-so-enlightened, egalitarian nation.
And, BTW, I'm quite aware that it would take a constitutional amendment to set gender-parity quotas in congress. The fact you can only offer asinine scenarios to show that such a system would be undemocratic only means that you can't be bothered to research how it actually works in practice in, say, Sweden. You're obviously hostile to the very idea of such parity; don't think for a minute you're fooling anyone.
Eric in New Mexico writes:
How Best Can Women's Rights Be Expanded Internationally?
When Muslim religious leaders decide Sharia law must become consistant with the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, then and only then will the full human potential of Muslim nations be realized.
When half a nation is worth half that of a man in a court of law, there can be no justice for all.
Amanda in West Virginia writes:
I would like to state, as a woman, I voted for Barack Obama, first in the primary and then in the general election, not because I felt a woman couldn't handle the job, but because I felt Mr. Obama would address my needs.
That being said, Gov. Palin and Sec Clinton were treated HORRIBLY. What does it matter what they where and how their hair is styled? No one questioned John McCain's suits or Barack Obama's shoes. There is a very clear double standard when it comes to women in politics. I hope to someday be involved in government, but as an overweight woman I can just imagine the headlines.
We, as women, need to empower each other. We are way too quick to criticize each other. I am guilty of this as well but am trying to better myself, now that I am a mother and want to ensure that my son treats women the way he aught to.


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Why protectionism equals crony capitalism
The invaluable Warren Meyer at Coyote blog (one of my all time favs) has a great article up on protectionism and why its something we should be avoiding.
President Obama used a lot of his state of the union address again teeing up what sounded to me like a new round of protectionism. Protectionism is the worst form of crony capitalism, generally benefiting a handful of producers and their employee to the detriment of 300 million US consumers and any number of companies that use the protected product as an input.
The example he uses? Sugar. What industry does it protect and subsidize in the end? The producers of high fructose corn syrup (HFCS). And what does the government tell us about HFCS?
It's bad for us. Sugar would be preferable.
So why do we continue to use it in place of sugar? Protectionism. Look at the chart he includes:
The chart says it all. With the tariff added, look at the average US cost of sugar vs. the world's average cost.
As Meyer points out though, that's not how this gets spun:
Food activists on the Left often point to the use of High Fructose Corn Syrup (HFCS) as one of those failures of capitalism, where rapacious capitalists make money serving an inferior product. But HFCS resulted from a scramble by food and beverage companies to find some reasonable alternative to sugar as the government has driven up sugar prices through a crazy tariff system that benefits just a tiny handful of Americans, and costs everyone else money.
Yup, the usual, convenient and usually wrong whipping boy – "market failure".
When a tariff is involved, you've just moved out of the realm of real capitalism and into the realm of crony capitalism. This has nothing to do with markets failing. This has to do with the usual – government intrusion using their monopoly power of force which then distorts a market and causes users of the product whose price they chose to artificially inflate with a tariff to seek lower cost alternatives.
Remember, the same government that is claiming HFCS isn't good for you is the one that's also made it impossible to use a product that it claims is better for you (in relative terms of course):
For the last 10 years or so, HFCS-42 has actually traded at a price higher than the world market price for sugar, but lower than the US price for sugar. There is a lot complexity to prices, but this seems to imply that HFCS would not be nearly as attractive a substitute for sugar if US sugar tariffs did not exist (not to mention subsidies of corn which support HFCS). This can also be seen in the fact that HFCS has not been used nearly so often as a sugar substitute in markets outside of the US, even by the same manufacturers (like Coke) that pioneered its use in the US.
Or, if markets had been left alone, all indications are we'd be using lower cost sugar right now.
Meanwhile the government protects and subsidizes an industry that makes a product it says is worse for you .
Make sense?
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December 3, 2007 WIC Update
SUBJECT 1: Initial Contact Date
SUBJECT 2: HANDS Help Desk Coverage-Upcoming Meetings and Holidays
SUBJECT 3: Caseload Update
SUBJECT 4: WIC Training Schedule for January through June 2008 (Attachments)
SUBJECT 5: Revised Documentation For Medical Needs Formula Issuance
SUBJECT 6: Missouri Birth Defects Prevention Month
SUBJECT 7: Translated Forms and Resource Material – CD
SUBJECT 8: National WIC Association Issues Urgent Legislative Alert
SUBJECT 9: Voter Registration Information Request
SUBJECT 10: 2008 Enhancement Project Announced
- Initial Contact Date: During the Management Evaluation (ME) USDA conducted of Missouri WIC in September 2007, an observation was made that Missouri WIC should clarify the "Contact" date field found on certification and recertification screens in HANDS. In the WIC Updates of November 26, 2007, there was an article stating that the "Contact" Date field on the certification screens (H401/H403/H421/H423) will be relabeled as "Initial Contact" date effective December 3, 2007. The "Contact" and "Type" fields will be removed from the recertification screens (H402/H422) effective December 3, 2007. This is being done because these fields are not required to be keyed on a recertification.
Continue to follow the current policy of using this field to enter "Initial Contact" date on the certification screens, per ER 3.01600. The "Initial Contact" date is the date a prospective participant contacts the LWP by phone, in person or in writing requesting WIC services. Per ER 3.01700 an appointment to determine WIC eligibility for prenatals, infants under six months of age and members of the migrant population must occur within 10 calendar days of the "Initial Contact" date. Per ER 3.01700 an appointment to determine WIC eligibility for all other participants must occur within 20 calendar days of the "Initial Contact" date. If you have questions contact Glenn Studebaker at email@example.com or 573-751-6198 or 800-392-8209.
- HANDS Help Desk Coverage-Upcoming Meetings and Holidays:
There will be no HANDS Help Desk coverage on December 19 from 1:00-5:00 and December 20 from 8:00-5:00 for staff meetings. There will no HANDS Help Desk coverage and the State WIC Office will be closed on December 25 for Christmas and on January 1 for New Year's Day. The State WIC Office will be open as usual from 8:00-5:00 on December 24 and December 31.
If you have questions, contact Mark Davis at firstname.lastname@example.com or 573-526-5323 or 800-392-8209.
- Caseload Update: The caseload numbers for November arrived December 2nd. While the number of participants decreased about 500 from October to November, the number of participants served remains high. The greatest increases have been in serving children ages 1-5. In October, 141,503 participants were served, in November 140,988 participants were served. Caseload has increased 4% in the last six months (since June when 135,408 participants were served). This is an unprecedented increase. We thank local WIC providers for their hard work in seeing so many new WIC participants. If you have any questions or need additional information, please contact your district team or Jim Schindler (firstname.lastname@example.com).
- WIC Training Schedule for January through June 2008 (Attachments) - Attached is the training calendar for January 2008 through June 2008 and the training registration form. Please contact the trainer listed on the schedule for any questions concerning a particular training. WIC Basic Orientation Training will be presented on-site at each district office one time during 2008 with Video Conference to the remaining district sites.
- Revised Documentation For Medical Needs Formula Issuance: The State office has revised the Documentation For Medical Needs Formula Issuance form (WIC 29). The revised WIC 29 form will be printed one-side only. The color of form will be light blue. Before finalizing the WIC 29 form, we would like to receive feedback from local WIC providers. Please review the attached form and provide your feedback to Takako Tagami by faxing to 573-526-1470 or e-mailing firstname.lastname@example.com by December 10, 2007.
- Missouri Birth Defects Prevention Month: January is Missouri Birth Defects Prevention Month! Please see the attached items: a) the message from the Bureau of Genetics and Healthy Childhood, b) Folic Acid Quiz, and c) Folic Acid brochure request form. The WIC State office encourages your agency to plan activities to promote the importance of preconception health care, prenatal care and good nutrition including Folic Acid. In December, each local WIC provider will receive a packet containing Birth Defects Prevention brochures and a literature request form. Please fill out the form as needed and fax it to the DHSS warehouse at 573-751-1574. For more information about birth defects prevention, folic acid consumption and preconception health care, please visit the DHSS website at http://www.dhss.mo.gov/folic_acid/ or by contacting Leslie Seifert in the Bureau of Genetics and Healthy Childhood at 1-800-877-6246 or email@example.com.
- CD - Translated Forms and Resource Material: CDs containing the translated WIC forms and resource materials will be available by the end of December. If your agency is interested in receiving the CD, please contact Katie Hollis at email@example.com
- National WIC Association Issues Urgent Legislative Alert: The National WIC Association (NWA) has issued an urgent legislative alert asking WIC programs to contact their Congresspersons to ask that they fund the WIC program at $5.96 billion in order for programs to maintain current caseload and not have to begin cutting moms and kids from the program. Congress is considering an omnibus budget bill to fund federal agencies for 2008. Right now the WIC program is being funded on a continuing resolution, which means we receive funding one month at a time and at a level of not more than 1/12 of what we received last year. With caseload having increased 4% since July and food cost increases of 6-10% since summer, flat funding will not be adequate for states to address overall increasing costs throughout the year. A copy of the legislative alert is attached for your reference.
If you would like to contact your Congressperson and support more funding for the WIC program, attached is a list of the Missouri delegation including phone numbers and addresses. The National WIC Association has also developed a letter that you can send. That can be found on the NWA web page (http://www.nwica.org/). Senator Bond is on the Senate Appropriations Committee and Representative Jo Ann Emerson is on the House Appropriations Committee. They have a key role in making decisions on WIC funding.
If you need any additional information please contact Lyn Konstant at firstname.lastname@example.com or 573-751-6086. If you contact your Representative/Senator and they ask for more information on the WIC program, please feel free to refer them to Lyn.
- Voter Registration Information Request: Last week all WIC coordinators received an e-mail request to update the State Office on how they handle voter registration. Thank you to the WIC coordinators that have already responded. If you have not yet sent your information to Lyn Konstant, please take a minute to do so today. Responses are due December 7.
- 2008 Enhancement Project Announced: Every year we look for ways to support WIC Providers and improve service to WIC participants through Client Services Enhancement Projects. This is an opportunity to apply for WIC Program Enhancement Funding for 2008. There is expected to be $150,000 in funds from USDA, which is expected to be available sometime after the first of the year. These funds must be expended by September 30, 2008.
This year the Enhancement Project focus is on increasing participation in WIC by pregnant women in their first trimester; and increasing the percentage of WIC participants who begin and continue to breastfeed. Partnering with community groups to increase participation is strongly encouraged.
Please find attached the general guidelines for funding, as well as Attachment A: Project Application, Attachment B: Project Budget, and Project Suggestions. Applications are due by COB January 31, 2007. Contact your District Team or Kathleen Davis at firstname.lastname@example.com with questions.
Missouri WIC Caseload Analysis NOV-a 05-08
WIC Training Schedule 1-08 thru 6-08
2008 Training Registration Form
WIC 29 Draft for Review
Birth Defects Prevention Month LTR 11-27-07
Folic Acid Brochure WIC Request Form
Folic Acid Quiz
Translated Items on CD 11-27-07
NWA Legislative Alert 11-30-07
MO Reps - Senators 2007
2008 Enhancement Application Attachment A
2008 Enhancement Application Guidelines
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Topic: SSL Solution For Michael Hartl's RoR Tutorial Chapter 9 Exercise 3
This is my attempt at solving Chapter 9 Exercise 3 of Michael Hartl's Ruby on Rails Tutorial. I'm going to make a couple trips around the mulberry bush so please be patient with me.
I'm running Ubuntu Linux version 10.10 with Rails 3.0.9 and Ruby 1.9.2p180. For more information on this configuration see:
Step 1) In routes.rb
change this:
resources :sessions, :only => [:new, :create, :destroy]
to this:
resources :sessions, :only => [:new, :create, :destroy],
:defaults => {:protocol => "https"}
Step 2) Restart Spork and Autotest. Notice that Autotest now logs several failures telling you that there is no route to controller "sessions" with action "create".
Step 3) In sessions_controller_spec.rb
Change this:
post :create, :session => @attr
to this:
post :create, :session => @attr, :protocol => 'https'
I had to make this change in five places.
This will fix the Autotest failures.
Step 4) Restart Spork and Autotest. All tests should pass giving a green smiley face.
Now as it turns out, all of the above was an exercise in futility. We'll see why later. Just remember that I said we'd make a couple passes around the mulberry bush. At this point you should change everything back like it was.
Attribution: This part of the solution came from a post by Chris Rohr at:
http://www.nearinfinity.com/blogs/chris e_ssl.html
Step 1) Make a backup copy of /script/rails.
Step 2) Replace the contents of /script/rails with:
#!/usr/bin/env ruby1.8
# This command will automatically be run when you run "rails" with Rails 3 gems installed from the root of your application.
require 'rubygems'
require 'rails/commands/server'
require 'rack'
require 'webrick'
require 'webrick/https'
module Rails
class Server < ::Rack::Server
def default_options
:Port => 3001,
:environment => (ENV['RAILS_ENV'] || "development").dup,
:daemonize => false,
:debugger => false,
:pid => File.expand_path("tmp/pids/server.pid"),
:config => File.expand_path("config.ru"),
:SSLEnable => true,
:SSLVerifyClient => OpenSSL::SSL::VERIFY_NONE,
:SSLPrivateKey => OpenSSL::PKey::RSA.new(
File.open("/home/name4/ssl/ca.key").read), # Fix this path!
:SSLCertificate => OpenSSL::X509::Certificate.new(
File.open("/home/name4/ssl/ca.crt").read), # Fix this path!
:SSLCertName => [["CN", WEBrick::Utils::getservername]]
APP_PATH = File.expand_path('../../config/application', __FILE__)
require File.expand_path('../../config/boot', __FILE__)
require 'rails/commands'
Step 3) Please note the two lines above that contain "# Fix this path!" You can't fix them yet, but don't forget to fix them later after you create ca.key and ca.crt.
I know, the tutorial says you don't need to make an SSL certificate just for development. I'm sure that's true, but I couldn't figure out how to make it work without one. In any case, I thought, "How hard can it be to make my own certificate, and I need to learn how to make one anyway because one day I'll need to deploy a 'real' application."
Attribution: This part of the solution came from a post by Paul Bramscher at:
Configuration: You need to have the openssl gems installed. That is, you need the following lines in your Gemfile:
gem 'openssl-extensions', '1.1.0'
gem 'openssl-nonblock', '0.2.1'
If necessary, add these lines to the first group of gems at the top of your Gemfile, and then from a command prompt run:
$ bundle install
You can find more extensive configuration help at:
and in section 1.2.4 of the tutorial.
Now here we go.
Step 1) From a shell prompt change directory to your home directory.
$ cd ~
Step 2) Make a directory to hold your SSL certificate.
$ mkdir ssl
Step 3) Navigate to the newly created directory.
$ cd ssl
Step 4) Create your CA key.
$ openssl genrsa -des3 -out ca.key 4096
Step 5) Generate your certificate.
Note: This command actually makes you a certificate authority (although not a trusted one) so you can use it to run a server and/or sign other SSL certificates.
openssl req -new -x509 -days 7300 -key ca.key -out ca.crt
You will now be asked to enter a pass phrase. Since this certificate is just for local testing enter something short and simple like "passphrase". Then press Enter. Note: The pass phrase will not display on the terminal, and the cursor will not move. Don't let this bother you. Just type the passphrase and press Enter.
Be sure to write the pass phrase on a yellow sticky note, and post it somewhere where everyone can see it.
If you prefer a more secure pass phrase, you can get a truly random character string from:
Step 6)
After you enter the pass phrase you will be asked a series of questions. Here are the questions and some possible answers:
Country Name (2 letter code) [AU]:US
State or Province Name (full name) [Some-State]:Texas
Locality Name (eg, city) []:Dallas
Organization Name (eg, company) [Internet Widgits Pty Ltd]:None Whatsoever
Organizational Unit Name (eg, section) []:Software Development
Common Name (eg, YOUR name) []:localhost
Email Address []:email@example.com
Step 7)
Your certificate is now ready to use, but there's still one tiny step to complete. Open /script/rails with your favorite text editor, and fix the paths in the two lines that contain "# Fix this path!"
Step 1) Shut down Webrick if it's already running.
Step 2) From a command prompt start Webrick.
$ rails server
Webrick will prompt you to:
Enter PEM pass phrase:
Type the pass phrase you wrote on the yellow sticky note then press Enter. As before the pass phrase will not display.
Step 3) Start your favorite browser and enter the following URL:
At this point your browser will probably complain bitterly that the certificate is not trusted. Don't let that browser push you around. Tell it to trust the certificate anyway!
Step 4)
Your Sample App should appear, and it should be fully operational. But there's still one tiny problem.
Well, remember the mulberry bush? If I were the creator of the universe, which, alas, I am not, we would simply re-edit routes.rb replacing this:
resources :sessions, :only => [:new, :create, :destroy]
with this:
resources :sessions, :only => [:new, :create, :destroy],
:defaults => {:protocol => "https"}
Unfortunately, this maneuver doesn't accomplish a thing (except to break the rspec tests).
You can run two instances of the Webrick server. I've run an HTTP version on port 3000 along with an HTTPS version on port 3001. Unfortunately, this doesn't fix anything either. Whichever Webrick server you launch Sample App on is the server you will keep using. Apparently at least one developer has gotten this to work. Check out Alan's comment at the end of the post at:
http://www.nearinfinity.com/blogs/chris e_ssl.html
This situation isn't necessarily all bad. Check out the post at:
In this post the Electronic Frontier Foundation makes the point that requiring HTTPS for passwords only is a twentieth century concept. Now days most web pages have content coming from a multitude of third party sources (i.e. ad servers). This third party content can attempt to steal your session cookie, which is almost as effective as stealing your user id and password.
All security issues aside, I'd still like to know how to get Rails/Webrick to route some pages to HTTP and others to HTTPS. If anyone out there on the Rails knows how to do it, I'd love to read your comment.
Doug Witmer
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