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Skip to comments.Natural selection cannot explain the origin of life (Darwin's epic failure re: comprehensive ToE)
Posted on 11/12/2009 8:53:24 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
While Charles Darwins On the Origin of Species has been described as a grand narrativea story of origins that would change the world,1 ironically his book very pointedly avoided the question of the origin of life itself.
This ought not be surprising. Darwins theory of the origin of species by means of natural selection2 presupposes self-reproduction, so cant explain the origin of self-reproduction.
Unfortunately, many proponents of evolution seem unaware of that. They dont acknowledge that natural selection requires pre-existing life. As leading 20th century evolutionist Theodosius Dobzhansky lamented: ...
(Excerpt) Read more at creation.com ...
Because liberals project alot!
Your problem is the evidence.
Evidence like show us a high profile liberal that supports creationism.
"Question my scientific credentials again.
Question my math skills again.
Next step is to call me a liberal."
This is exactly what liberals do!
And then you get sore because you're called a liberal?
And there's the projections again.
Because liberals project-alot.
Well, I definitely know of many liberals (actually, this is a cornerstone of the liberal mindset) who reject evolution, its principles and implications. Just ask James Watson (the 'double helix' guy, who got busted for suggesting that different groups of people may have evolved separately, to a different outcome with respect to IQ; his liberal opponents, on the other hand, seem to believe that humans were created 'according to their kind', in a biblical manner).
A recent article had much to say regarding mutations:
Although I may have been wrong about my earlier stmt 'approx 1 in a million mutations being beneficial', evolution rarely discusses [smallest guess maybe 1 in 500] while the above article quotes approx 1 in 2500 [.00041].
The article and other related research reveals very little good, positive or beneficial information for mutations though:
"Positive" Mutations
"The underlying genetic mechanism of evolution is random mutation, and specifically mutation that is beneficial to life. Biology textbooks in theory present positive and negative mutations to students as though these were commonplace and roughly equal in number. However, these books fail to inform students that unequivocally positive mutations are unknown to genetics, since they have never been observed (or are so rare as to be irrelevant).
The biology textbooks in other chapters teach that most mutations are pathologic, or disease-causing, but they don't apply that information to evolution. The worst diseases doctors treat today are caused by genetic mutations. Nearly 4,000 diseases are caused by mutations in DNA.4 "The human genome contains a complete set of instructions for the production of a human being . Genome research has already exposed errors |mutations| in these instructions that lead to heart disease, cancer, and neurological degeneration."5 These diseases are crippling, often fatal, and many of the affected pre-born infants are aborted spontaneously, i.e., they are so badly damaged they can't even survive gestation. However, the biology textbooks, when discussing mutation in evolution, only discuss the very rare "positive" mutation, like sickle cell anemia. The fact of some 4,000 devastating genetic diseases is suppressed from publication.
Mutations: the Human Toll
Polycystic kidney disease is a common mutation in humans. It is inherited in autosomal dominant fashion,6 meaning that one copy of the relevant gene received from the parents was mutant and the other copy was normal. The sufferers who inherit the mutated gene may die of kidney failure by late middle age if they don't receive dialysis or a kidney transplant. As the disease progresses, the kidneys are gradually replaced by functionless cysts, which can cause continuous pain and enlarge the kidneys to the point where they bleed, get infections, and may even interfere with breathing.
Another instance of genetic mutation is cystic fibrosis, which is inherited in autosomal recessive fashion, meaning that both of the relevant inherited genes are mutant. Patients with this condition are burdened with mucous-plugging defects in their lungs and pancreas. Beginning in childhood they remain susceptible to frequent, sometimes very dangerous, pneumonias. Insufficient amounts of pancreatic enzymes are available to properly digest food, requiring pancreatic enzyme replacements. Sufferers of cystic fibrosis are usually sterile, and may die in young adulthood even with expert medical care.
The recent decoding of the human genome has allowed scientists to determine that cystic fibrosis is caused by a random change of three nucleotides in a gene that codes for a 1480-amino acid-long ion transport protein.7 The human genome has three billion nucleotides, or base pairs, in the DNA.8 Since a random change of three nucleotides in a three-billion-part genome is fatal (0.0000001%), how is it remotely possibly that a chimp could be the evolutionary cousin of a human? The lowest estimate of the genetic differences between our DNA and that of chimps is at least 50 million nucleotides (some estimates of the disparity are much higher). Quantitative information in genetics today is proving evolutionary theory as simply a man-made and irrational philosophical belief.
One top geneticist recently conducted a computer analysis to quantitate the ratio of "beneficial mutations" to harmful mutations.9 Only 186 entries for beneficial mutations were discovered (and even they have a downside), versus 453,732 entries for harmful mutations. The ratio of "beneficial mutations" to harmful mutations is 0.00041! Thus, even if a very rare mutation is "beneficial," the next 10,000 mutations in any evolutionary sequence would each be fatal or crippling, and each of the next 10,000 imaginary mutations would bring the evolution process to a halt."
Here's some more mutation research from Dr. Walt Brown Ph.D.:
Mutations are the only known means by which new genetic material becomes available for evolution.a Rarely, if ever, is a mutation beneficial to an organism in its natural environment. Almost all observable mutations are harmful; some are meaningless; many are lethal.b No known mutation has ever produced a form of life having greater complexity and viability than its ancestors.c
Ultimately, all variation is, of course, due to mutation. Ernst Mayr, Evolutionary Challenges to the Mathematical Interpretation of Evolution, Mathematical Challenges to the Neo-Darwinian Interpretation of Evolution, editors Paul S. Moorhead and Martin M. Kaplan, proceedings of a symposium held at the Wistar Institute of Anatomy and Biology, 2526 April, 1966 (Philadelphia: The Wistar Institute Press, 1967), p. 50.
Although mutation is the ultimate source of all genetic variation, it is a relatively rare event, ... Ayala, p. 63.
The process of mutation is the only known source of the raw materials of genetic variability, and hence of evolution. ... the mutants which arise are, with rare exceptions, deleterious to their carriers, at least in the environments which the species normally encounters. Theodosius Dobzhansky, On Methods of Evolutionary Biology and Anthropology, American Scientist, December 1957, p. 385.
In molecular biology, various kinds of mutations introduce the equivalent of noise pollution of the original instructive message. Communication theory goes to extraordinary lengths to prevent noise pollution of signals of all kinds. Given this longstanding struggle against noise contamination of meaningful algorithmic messages, it seems curious that the central paradigm of biology today attributes genomic messages themselves solely to noise. David L. Abel and Jack T. Trevors, Three Subsets of Sequence Complexity and Their Relevance to Biopolymeric Information, Theoretical Biology & Medical Modelling, Vol. 2, 11 August 2005, p. 10. (Also available at www.tbiomed.com/content/2/1/29.)
Accordingly, mutations are more than just sudden changes in heredity; they also affect viability, and, to the best of our knowledge, invariably affect it adversely. C. P. Martin, A Non-Geneticist Looks at Evolution, American Scientist, January 1953, p. 102.
Mutation does produce hereditary changes, but the mass of evidence shows that all, or almost all, known mutations are unmistakably pathological and the few remaining ones are highly suspect. Ibid., p. 103.
[Although mutations have produced some desirable breeds of animals and plants,] all mutations seem to be in the nature of injuries that, to some extent, impair the fertility and viability of the affected organisms. I doubt if among the many thousands of known mutant types one can be found which is superior to the wild type in its normal environment, only very few can be named which are superior to the wild type in a strange environment. Ibid., p. 100.
If we say that it is only by chance that they [mutations] are useful, we are still speaking too leniently. In general, they are useless, detrimental, or lethal. W. R. Thompson, Introduction to The Origin of Species, Everyman Library No. 811 (New York: E. P. Dutton & Sons, 1956; reprint, Sussex, England: J. M. Dent and Sons, Ltd., 1967), p. 10.
Visible mutations are easily detectable genetic changes such as albinism, dwarfism, and hemophilia. Winchester quantifies the relative frequency of several types of mutations.
Lethal mutations outnumber visibles by about 20 to 1. Mutations that have small harmful effects, the detrimental mutations, are even more frequent than the lethal ones. Winchester, p. 356.
John W. Klotz, Genes, Genesis, and Evolution, 2nd edition, revised (St. Louis: Concordia Publishing House, 1972), pp. 262265.
... I took a little trouble to find whether a single amino acid change in a hemoglobin mutation is known that doesnt affect seriously the function of that hemoglobin. One is hard put to find such an instance. George Wald, as quoted by Murray Eden, Inadequacies of Neo-Darwinian Evolution as a Scientific Theory, Mathematical Challenges to the Neo-Darwinian Interpretation of Evolution, editors Paul S. Moorhead and Martin M. Kaplan, pp. 1819.
However, evolutionists have taught for years that hemoglobin alpha changed through mutations into hemoglobin beta. This would require, at a minimum, 120 point mutations. In other words, the improbability Wald refers to above must be raised to the 120th power to produce just this one protein!
Even if we didnt have a great deal of data on this point, we could still be quite sure on theoretical grounds that mutants would usually be detrimental. For a mutation is a random change of a highly organized, reasonably smoothly functioning living body. A random change in the highly integrated system of chemical processes which constitute life is almost certain to impair itjust as a random interchange of connections in a television set is not likely to improve the picture. James F. Crow (Professor of Genetics, University of Wisconsin), Genetic Effects of Radiation, Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, Vol. 14, January 1958, pp. 1920.
The one systematic effect of mutation seems to be a tendency towards degeneration ... [emphasis in original] Sewall Wright, The Statistical Consequences of Mendelian Heredity in Relation to Speciation, The New Systematics, editor Julian Huxley (London: Oxford University Press, 1949), p. 174.
Wright then concludes that other factors must also have been involved, because he believes evolution happened.
In discussing the many mutations needed to produce a new organ, Koestler says:
Each mutation occurring alone would be wiped out before it could be combined with the others. They are all interdependent. The doctrine that their coming together was due to a series of blind coincidences is an affront not only to common sense but to the basic principles of scientific explanation. Arthur Koestler, The Ghost in the Machine (New York: Macmillan Publishing Co., 1968), p. 129.
There is no single instance where it can be maintained that any of the mutants studied has a higher vitality than the mother species. N. Heribert Nilsson, Synthetische Artbildung (Lund, Sweden: Verlag CWK Gleerup, 1953), p. 1157.
It is, therefore, absolutely impossible to build a current evolution on mutations or on recombinations. [emphasis in original] Ibid., p. 1186.
No matter how numerous they may be, mutations do not produce any kind of evolution. Pierre-Paul Grassé, Evolution of Living Organisms (New York: Academic Press, 1977), p. 88.
I have seen no evidence whatsoever that these [evolutionary] changes can occur through the accumulation of gradual mutations. Lynn Margulis, as quoted by Charles Mann, Lynn Margulis: Sciences Unruly Earth Mother, Science, Vol. 252, 19 April 1991, p. 379.
It is true that nobody thus far has produced a new species or genus, etc., by macromutation. It is equally true that nobody has produced even a species by the selection of micromutations. Richard B. Goldschmidt, Evolution, As Viewed by One Geneticist, American Scientist, Vol. 40, January 1952, p. 94.
If life really depends on each gene being as unique as it appears to be, then it is too unique to come into being by chance mutations. Frank B. Salisbury, Natural Selection and the Complexity of the Gene, Nature, Vol. 224, 25 October 1969, p. 342.
Do we, therefore, ever see mutations going about the business of producing new structures for selection to work on? No nascent organ has ever been observed emerging, though their origin in pre-functional form is basic to evolutionary theory. Some should be visible today, occurring in organisms at various stages up to integration of a functional new system, but we dont see them: there is no sign at all of this kind of radical novelty. Neither observation nor controlled experiment has shown natural selection manipulating mutations so as to produce a new gene, hormone, enzyme system or organ. Michael Pitman, Adam and Evolution (London: Rider & Co., 1984), pp. 6768.
It's only *positive* in very limited scenarios, like in the presence of malaria. Take away the malaria and tell us about how positive it is.
Some *positive* mutation, that sickle cell. Ask anyone who suffers from it.
Alrighty. How about a list of all the positive, beneficial mutations that have occurred in humankind in the last some thousand years.
How about a list of any positive, beneficial mutations that occur within the human population at all in the present.
No, it doesn't.
I'm asking you as evos who are adherents to the ToE.
That doesn't mean I subscribe to it. You're the ones who do. So, according to your belief system which posits a beginning to all life in the form of a first cell, tell us where the first cell came from instead of dancing around the issue and trying every which way to avoid answering the question.
" Hey, you know if we get good enough with the ad-hominems, we might could get by with just trying to defend one indefensible brain-dead ideological doctrine instead of two of em!! "
I DO NOT KNOW the origin of life, so I am not going to present beliefs as facts. I only state that scenarios that you reject based on your beliefs (chance self-assembly) are in fact viable. But I also consider the alternative involving God viable.
ICR is not a credible source for matters of science.
Really?! Is that how you speak to all correspondents who disagree with you, or mention something inconvenient?
You like quotes? Well, here are quotes from Berkeley showing that their Evolution 101 website accords special treatment to the origin of life. From the website: However, within the field of evolutionary biology (emphasis mine), the origin of life is of special interest because it addresses the fundamental question of where we (and all living things) came from. I dont see where any other subject is described within the field of evolutionary biology as is the origin of life.
Within that website, under the heading from soup to cells the origin of life, we see a whole array of topics for inspection: 1)When did life originate? 2) Where did life originate? 3) How did life originate? 4) Under Studying the origin of life (itself making reference to the tree of life), we have; Origins and DNA evidence, Origins and biochemical evidence, Origins and experimental evidence, then finally, 5) A knotty problem.
At this point from soup to cells the origin of life continues with the following, You've reached the end of this section, but if you'd like to continue reading about the relevance of evolution (emphasis mine), try these: (and the site follows up by giving some links)
Whatever Darwin thought in the last half of the Nineteenth Century, some 150 years later Berkeley clearly believes that theories of the origin of life are fueled and directed by Darwins ToE in its various configurations.
Berkeley is not alone. A number of university websites and science association websites carry Evolution 101 as a link on their own sites (why a majority of those links havent been disappeared before now is beyond me theyre embarrassing for anyone who argues no one in the Science Community is making a connection between Evolution and the Origin of Life). Moreover, the problem is not limited to institutions. There are any number of eminent scientists who see a connection between Evolution and the Origin of Life and, worse, use science generally and the ToE specifically as a basis to conclude, as William Provine argues: 1) No gods worth having exist; 2) no life after death exists; 3) no ultimate foundation for ethics exists; 4) no ultimate meaning in life exists; and 5) human free will is nonexistent (those being, among others, Dawkins, Hawking, Weinberg, Dennett, Pinker, Gould, Sanger, Tooley, Lewontin, Hauser, Stenger Provine, Rachels, et al).
Small wonder that you find it so exasperatingly difficult to convince any Christian on this forum that the ToE has no significance beyond its scientific implications when it is obvious that scientists like Dawkins now believe (see The God Delusion) and, in his day Marx then believed, that a naturalistic explanation for life to be sufficiently assured that they now feel, as Marx then felt, secure in declaring that there is no God. If Darwinians werent trying so hard to improperly preempt Christian philosophy with conclusions drawn from a scientific theory, then they and their god Darwin would not be under so much severe criticism. Instead of ragging Christians about their supposed scientific ignorance, if you went about getting your own ideological house in order you might find the headwinds youve been bucking to be considerably less fierce. But, if you instead prefer engaging in political shin kicking, then dont complain when you find yourself in a shin-kicking contest.
"Small wonder that you find it so exasperatingly difficult to convince any Christian on this forum..."
No. Christians have no problem reconciling their faith with evolution. The members of this forum to whom you refer represent instead a small minority of weak-in-faith literalists. They close their mind to logic and science, and constitute little more than a source of entertainment.
Thank God they only teach science to their own education-deprived kids.
Thanks for the ping!
Most of these threads are not discussions of 'science' anyway.
It's mostly about faith, belief, and theory.
Buck W. is not to be considered a credible source either.
That's right, these discussion are much more deep and profound than mere science.
And I stopped considering evolution as science after I began to 'see behind the curtain' b/c you can win almost any argument if you are allowed to limit its scope.
Is that at the same site in TX where the "fossilized" leg and cowboy boot were found in that creek?
You have something to say?
Or is "you're a liberal" the end of your intellectual ability?
Sure a true Christian would because the conflict comes in as to whether to believe man or God's word.
The number of evos who claim to be Christians and yet who deny much of the Bible as true and the fact that Jesus Himself, on whom Christianity is based, treated the OT and its events as facts; have to decide whether the Bible is true and Jesus is telling the truth about it, or whether evolution is true and Jesus is lying. You can't have it both ways.
And not everyone who claims to be a Christian is one.
Matt 7:15-23 "Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.
"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?' Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'
There are plenty of other places in the Gospels where Jesus makes comments like this as well.
You should try reading them sometime.
Sure, it's pretty much SOP for evos.
Correct. Although my professional science background is extensive, I am not published in the fields of paleontology, geology, etc. No real scientist would reference my work there.
You, however, referenced ICR as a source of credible science. That's analagous to my example above, but much more egregiously desperate and deceptive.
"Sure a true Christian would because the conflict comes in as to whether to believe man or God's word."
The bible is allegorical. Christians understand that, and most accept it. Those who don't fall into 2 categories:
o Those who base their literal argument on faith alone and don't seek to rely on "science" to prove creation and disprove evolution. This is the larger of the 2 groups. I respect them.
o Those whose faith is week and need to pervert science to provide them some false firmament. These are the cultists. You belong to this group, as does the rest of the ping list.
"egregiously desperate and deceptive" I could hardly agree less. You simply miss the point that I do not accept the modern day re-definition of science aka naturalism. Your words are best reflected by those in the 'evolutionary religion.'
If you posit there is a God then He most unequivocally must be the God of the Bible due to all of the evidence. However, your posts on FR seem to betray any real allegiance to the one true God.
Wow....a Roman history lesson.
Ooooooo....a BAD analogy concerning surgery and anaethesia.
So why not make similar applications in the forensic science of origins? Darwin published his Origin of Species just before the Civil War. Numerous advances in science since that time bring into question the validity of Darwin's theory, yet biology textbooks today maintain the Darwin mantra, "Darwin said it, I believe it, and that settles it."
Ignorance of genetic research is bliss. Appeal to the simple-minded....
In 1986 I read my first creationist article, written by a biologist. By the time I finished, I knew I could no longer justify my evolutionary thinking.
I LOVE it every time I read about some YEC nut that "read ONE article" and all of a sudden became a believer that Man walked the Earth with dinosaurs 4400 years ago.
She simply pointed out, armed with modern scientific facts, that practically everything I had learned in medical school--especially in genetics--directly conflicted with Darwin's theory.
Wow...."nearly everything learned in medical school" conflicted with the Theory of evolution? I surmise that you didn't talk much about anything having anything to do with evolution in medical school, but you, sir, will NEVER be my PHCP.
....especially genetics???? In exactly what century did you take genetics, Dr.?
Darwin believed in the inheritance of acquired characteristics--that is, if an animal acquired a physical characteristic during its lifetime, it could pass that characteristic on to its progeny.
This is quite a STUPID thing to say and shows ignorance in the ToE. One does not acquire a charachteristic over one's lifetime.....one acquires it at conception from one's parents. Man, this Dr. is stupid, but this is just a strawman to kick around in the next few sentences as THAT is not the ToE, Dr,.
Of course, it is an established fact that living things can only pass on the genetic information they inherit from their parents.
Of COURSE, it's that way.....but you had to claim the notion of Evolution being "acquiring a characteristic over your life" so you could kick it around.
Will a man who loses a leg in an accident have one-legged children?
No, but you have to follow your stupid line of strawman thinking. HOWEVER, a genetic mutation that leads directly to a one-legged offspring will get passed on to HIS offspring, though this could get taken care of in the synaptonemal complex.
No, his children will have two legs, because although the man's body (or phenotype) changed, his genotype (or DNA) remains the same.
ANOTHER stupid thing to say. His "phenotype" didn't change one freakin' bit. His physical appearance changed. Phenotype is the physical expression of the GENOTYPE, you stupid summabitch. Kind Dr. here didn't pay attention in genetics class.
But natural selection only explains survival of the fittest; it fails to explain arrival of the fittest
D'uh...stupid comment #853. "Natural selection" is not SUPPOSED to explain "arrival of the fittest" any more than the ToE is SUPPOSED to explain the origin of life.
Natural selection, i.e., the forces of nature, does not change the DNA of the individual animal at all, and can only change the total gene pool of a species by eliminating unfit individuals (leading to the loss, not gain, of genetic information).
Stupid comment #948. Natural selection does not ELIMINATE unfit individuals, it merely makes one individual more likely to pass on its genes to viable, reproducing offspring. Increasing likelihood of A does not eliminate B.
Typical usage of scriptural term "kind"....we in thescience world use the term "species", Dr.....as "kind" has a chameleon definition to suit the needs.
Biology textbooks in theory present positive and negative mutations to students as though these were commonplace and roughly equal in number.
How simple-minded of you, Dr.....what about mutations that do not change the amino acid sequences of proteins? MY biology books taught that NEUTRAL mutations that might or might not have a +- affect in the present, might in the future with further mutations or not. REALLY didn't pay much attention in genetics class.
However, these books fail to inform students that unequivocally positive mutations are unknown to genetics, since they have never been observed (or are so rare as to be irrelevant).
The specific mutations on chromosome 2 that lead to adult lactose tolerance is a positive mutation noted in real-time....but nice qualifier "unequivocally" is.
The biology textbooks in other chapters teach that most mutations are pathologic, or disease-causing, but they don't apply that information to evolution.
MY books taught me that MOST mutations are neutral and do not alter the amino acid sequence expressed.
However, the biology textbooks, when discussing mutation in evolution, only discuss the very rare "positive" mutation, like sickle cell anemia. The fact of some 4,000 devastating genetic diseases is suppressed from publication.
Uhhhh.....NO FREAKIN' SHI'ITE. When discussing EVOLUTION and mutation, it's useless to go talking about 4,000 deleterious mutations. When discussing GENETICS and mutation, THERE is where one would talk about deleterious mutations more. Maybe, Dr, you should've paid attention in genetics class or MAYBE you should have taken a population genetics/biology class. No, it's not "supporessed"...it's NOT RELEVANT TO THE THEORY.
Ooooo....a lesson on polycystic kidney disease....pretty cool stuff. Kind Dr, you don't know squat about "fitness"....PKD si diagnosed at ages 30-40....most likely AFTER the individual already passes it on to offspring....as such, it will persist in a population with a minimal affect on fitness....a maximal affect on the longevity of life.
OK...there's genetic diseases.....established.
Since a random change of three nucleotides in a three-billion-part genome is fatal (0.0000001%), how is it remotely possibly that a chimp could be the evolutionary cousin of a human?
Genetically ignorant thing to sy, Dr. Just because a mutation in 3 nucleotides is bad, doesn't mean all mutations are bad.
The lowest estimate of the genetic differences between our DNA and that of chimps is at least 50 million nucleotides
Wow....only 1.7% different? That's the best I've seen.
The ratio of "beneficial mutations" to harmful mutations is 0.00041!
Irrelevant statistic directed at ignorant people to make them think the ratio means something.....set up for the false conclusion.
Thus, even if a very rare mutation is "beneficial," the next 10,000 mutations in any evolutionary sequence would each be fatal or crippling, and each of the next 10,000 imaginary mutations would bring the evolution process to a halt.
Presupposes that one that receives a beneficial mutation will then receive a negative mutation.
This creates bacterial resistance to that antibiotic. Does this support evolutionary genetic theory? No, since the mutant bacteria do not survive as well in the wild as the native (non-mutant) bacteria. That is, the resistant (mutant) bacteria will only do well in an artificial situation, where it is placed in a culture medium with the antibiotic.
BOLD baseless statement, Dr., actually it's a false one. Guess you didn't pay attention in micro-class either. Take a fat look at MDRSA, which does quite well in humans. How about the mutation in SA that gave it protein A as a surface protein....which binds up human antibodies in a useless position? Such ignorance...
In the wild, the native bacteria are always more vigorous than the mutant bacteria.
However, the majority of mutations are "neutral mutations" that do not cause any detectable change in the phenotype or body of the animal.
Harmful mutations destroy the individual organism, preventing the gene from being passed on.
BS ALERT!!!! Harmful mutations only prevent the gene from being passed on IF they kill the individual BEFORE they generate offspring.....many harmful mutations do not kill until post-reproduction years.
The "neutral mutations" will ultimately destroy entire species, because the mutated genes will be passed on and accumulate.
BS ALERT.....what if, Dr....ther eis no further mutation at that site for 1,000,000 generations and then only in ONE individual in the population? Genetics ignorance is bliss.
Evolutionary science teaches that all the wonderful organs and enzymes in humans and animals--eyes, hemoglobin, lungs, hearts, and kidneys, all coded with DNA--arose totally by random chance through mutations in DNA.
Yes, to simple-minded folk. There is also a degree of direction from less beneficial to more beneficial accumulations. Once beneficial proteins are created, they are retained and increased in prevelance in the population such that beneficial mutations can accumulate to a higher degree in those that already HAVE beneficial mutations. Such that populations accumulate beneficial mutations.
Research is demonstrating that the "near-neutral" mutations are accumulating far too rapidly for organisms to have avoided extinction if they indeed have existed over the millions of years claimed by evolutionary biologists.
Is THAT so....just another ignorant statement, but the Dr has a tale to tell.
Harmful mutations destroy the individual organism, preventing the gene from being passed on. The "neutral mutations" will ultimately destroy entire species, because the mutated genes will be passed on and accumulate.
BS alert....simple-minded nonsense. Harmful mutations don't necessarily destroy the individual before reproducing. Neutral mutations do NOTHING. Passed on, they DO NOTHING. Accumulated, they do NOTHING. Further mutations at the same site that alter protein expression may do something.....may not....may cause a fatal genetic flaw and be removed from the pool.
On rare occasions, however, a mutant allele |gene| may actually fit its bearer to the environment better and enhance the reproductive success of the individual."
equivocally beneficial mutations (which still have a downside) are extremely rare (about one in 10,000),
Only 1/10,000?? What happened to the 1/1,000,000 that YOU touted? So, at a minimum, 1 in every 10 offspring has a beneficial mutation (mutation rate of 100-200 per offspring) SWEEEEEET.....
....and for the false conclusion, complete with baseless statements:
Carl Sagan, in his Cosmos program "One Voice in the Cosmic Fugue," stated that evolution was caused by "the slow accumulations of favorable mutations." While this may be the current popular theory, real science disagrees. The perpetuation of the Darwin myth clashes with reality--the God-created reality--where living things and their genomes were created "very good" and have degenerated from there. Genetic science demonstrates that the absolutely essential ingredient for the origin of life is an infinite Intelligence. Of all the origin stories, only one contains this essential ingredient--Genesis 1.
You, sir, will NEVER be my PHCP or my urologist, if I ever need one.
This is how I respond to correspondents who ask, get a very specific, unequivocal answer, and still pretend that I was "unresponsive". There was a very specific quote from the discussed source, stating that natural selection appears AFTER self-replication.
Please don't hold back, tell me how you really feel! :o)
From my quoted source "unequivocally positive mutations are unknown to genetics, since they have never been observed..."
Lactose intolerance is that all you got? I regret to say I read your entire post... err ranting... and came away with very little connstructive information from you.
Your pomposity did shine through once again though. :')
When I told my son about Santa Claus, was I "lying"? Or was I using an accepted reference suitable for his age to teach a larger lesson? Should he reject everything I've said since then because I "lied" about that?
Everybody thinks some of the Bible isn't true. You yourself have tried to explain how the "windows of Heaven" aren't really windows. Is the Bible lying when it says there are holes in the sky? Jesus referenced Noah, as creationists love to point out. Does that mean Jesus was lying about there being holes in the sky?
And not everyone who claims to be a Christian is one.
And here we come to the crux of the matter. This isn't really about the evidence or the science. This is about being able to tell other people they're not Christian. How ironic that you chose to quote the chapter that starts with "judge not."
"If you posit there is a God then He most unequivocally must be the God of the Bible due to all of the evidence. "
Of which bible do you speak—the allegorical one?
Are Catholics Christians?
Will you respond to me via private mail as you did earlier, or make your weak argument public?
ARRRGGGGHHHH! Week=weak!
Evos are nothing if not arrogant.
unequivocally positive mutations are unknown to genetics, since they have never been observed
...is a well-couched false statement. "Beneficial" is a couched phrase, "unequivocally" is a couched phrase.....and "unknown to genetics, since they have never been observed" is a lie liek saying "there have been no mutations that ensure a life span of 400 years.
Lactose intolerance is that all you got?
To prove a lie that they don't exist.....that's all that's needed. Need more? Lipoprotein lipase mutations (3 known)? Coagulation factor VII mutations. The CCR5 delta 32 mutation.
Need more?
I wouldn't expect for you to get anything from me, you've done "research" on "YEC sites"...where dinosaurs live in the time of Man.
Maybe in the circles you run in, but I doubt anyone who really believes that the Bible is the written word of God thinks that there's lies in it.
You simplistic rendering of something that God describes as *windows of heaven* does nothing to weaken the integrity and truthfulness of Scripture.
Do I believe that what you propose is the interpretation of *windows of heaven* is accurate? Absolutely not.
Do I believe that they exist in some manner that we don't fully understand and that the description of them as God gave us is the most accurate that we are able to comprehend? Yes.
The fundamental question is not where life came from but where the universe came from. Life is a subset of existence.
Beneficial is as beneficial does, Forrest.
Yes, a mutation causing adult lactase production is a beneficial trait, increasing genetic fitness by increasing nutrition, decreasing malnutrition throughout breeding ages.
Yes, it will also have the negative cause of a higher fat diet, higher body fat, and more heart attacks......LONG AFTER REPRODUCTION AGE. As in, they have limited negative affects on genetic fitness that are overshadowed by the increase in genetic fitness.......which is why the prevalence of the known mutations is increasing in the population. Breast cancer genes persist because they don't kill the individual until after they have kids. They REALLY persist in place liek Iceland because of the island effect....little genetic variability.
"Do I believe that they exist in some manner that we don't fully understand and that the description of them as God gave us is the most accurate that we are able to comprehend? Yes."
Can't you make the same case for the bible's description of "breathing life" into man, given that the people who existed on earth thousands of years ago were unable to comprehend God's method of evolution?
Wow—I think we're making progress! You're beginning to understand allegory!
No, I don't think it's allegory. I think it's actual *windows* (floodgates) of heaven but it's better to use the definition than a Hebrew word that nobody can translate.
Words can define more than one thing, you know, and not be allegory.
How do we know, then, whether other such passages in the bible are translation issues or allegory?
Did you want to make it public? It's fine w/ me, I thought I was doing you a favor keeping my insults private.
It certainly would be in character for you though since it adds nothing constructive to FR threads.
Ummm it's really not judging when you simply point out scriptures that indicate some people will fool even themselves and only God and the believer know if the truth is sincere and secure in your heart. With others we're simply told to see what kind of fruit they bear, but even that imho can be mis-leading sometimes.
When you think someone is 'judging' try to think if they are actually handing down some punishment for you and if it is binding.
By all means! Please entertain us all!
"It certainly would be in character for you though since it adds nothing constructive to FR threads."
One more clarification for you: "constructive" is not synonymous with "supports BrandtMichaels weak arguments".
No to what? You say no to an incomplete and out-of-context back quote. You then make an allegation you cant factually support. But, thats what Trolls do: cast aspersions and deny, deny, deny.
Thanks for the additional examples. I will wait and see if science eventually finds these mutations also cause problems rather than improving the DNA code.
Also your tagline says it and you often mention it:
"where dinosaurs live in the time of Man"
This is not a problem for me, too bad it seems to be a stumbling block for you. Are you not aware that since the fall, mankind has and still does survive in spite of meat-eating animals [some are even bigger than us] and poisonous plants? Surely you are b/c even though some do become victims, mankind continues to use his brain to make his family and community safer.
It's not just a case of being faster than the others being preyed upon, but it's also the case that we are simply not the favorite food of these man-eating animals and most of the time they show a natural fear of man, hence our God given dominion. They only lose this fear when someone ignoramus thinks they can befriend them, and/or in the extremes of starvation. I'm sure you knew all that in spite of your tagline though.
Are you really as dense as you seem to be?
And that very specific quote was not referenced in my post to you. I specifically referenced a different quote in your post, Anyway, no sane biologist/biochemist would confuse origins of life with evolution of species, and directed your attention to that. You ducked, pretending it never happened (speaking of just a little intellectual integrity to discuss with a minimum of honesty).
But . . . if thats the best you can do . . .
A Troll you are. A Troll doing what a Troll does. Doing Troll is Troll.
Jesus gives us criteria by which to determine if someone is a follower of His.
We are commanded in other places in Scripture to test the spirits to see if they are from God and to compare doctrine to the apostle's teachings to see if it's from God.
Believers are not to simply believe everyone who comes along and claims to be from God.
But that is not judging in the condemning sort of way. That's Christ's job and He will do it.
But there's no other way to point out error and warn people that they are on the wrong path than to point out error. If they don't want to hear it and shut down debate by accusing the other person of *judging*, then so be it. That's their choice.
But recognizing and pointing out that something doesn't line up with Scripture is necessary, otherwise there would be no way for people on the wrong path to find out.
Not telling them that they are in error compared to the Bible is not doing them any favors.
I thought you got a little rough on me there but I'll explain. That book was the inspiration for Sanger (abortion), Hitler (the master race), and the eugenicists who sought to build a better human being by removing as much as possible members of undesirable ethnic groups, the congenitally disabled and those of low intellectual ability from the gene pool.
There's a philosophy wrapped around the science in that book.
I thought folks would get my meaning when I compared it to a recipe book.
I do not dispute all modern biological teaching or call for it to be replaced by the teaching of Creationism or Intelligent Design. But, like Einstein, I think science might be about figuring how God did it.
Best wishes, nice to meet you.
Ducked? No, sir. I supported my "no sane biologist..." claim with a particular excerpt from the UBerkeley page (initially used as evidence by YOUR side) that clearly states that they consider the existence of self-replicating systems mandatory for natural selection to occur. CONTRARY to the initial metmom's claims, contrary to the reason for GGG to initiate this thread, and contrary to your current spinning and twisting the truth.
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Dan Dowd and four others rode into Bisbee, Arizona in December 1883 to hold up the Goldwater-Casteneda Store. During the robbery the men stationed outside the store opened fire, killing five people including a pregnant woman.
Dan Dowd, Red Sample, Bill Delaney, Tex Howard, and Dan Kelley rode hard through Tombstone Canyon and disappeared into the night. A long and exhausting manhunt led to the capture of the men along with John Heath who was later implicated in the planning of the robbery. The five robbers were sentenced to hang but since John Heath hadn't been a part of the shootings he was only convicted of robbery. The men were held in the Cochise County Courthouse in Tombstone.
Angry over the lesser conviction for Heath a mob of Bisbee residents rode to Tombstone, dragged him from the jail and hung him from a nearby telegraph pole.
Heath was the only illegal lynching in the Town to Tough to Die.
Dowd, Sample, Delaney, Howard and Kelley were executed on the grounds of the courthouse and they along with Heath were buried in the cemetery now known as Boothill.
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oh wow---what pictures--amazing!ReplyDeleteReplies
Thank you. I've been collecting Tombstone stuff for a long time.Delete
Visiting from the A-Z Challenge. I am using genealogy trivia as my theme. I am very impressed by your collection of pictures - fantastic! Hope you can stop byReplyDelete
Thanks for coming by. I love genealogy and so will be over to visit soon.Delete
That's quite a story. Great pictures too. You really bring it to life.ReplyDeleteReplies
Thanks. I've been writing about Tombstone for years. The Old West is my favorite subject.Delete
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December's New Fiction
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This cake is for the party by Sarah Selecky (FICTION) -- Shortlisted for the acclaimed 2010 Scotiabank Giller Prize, the Frank O'Connor Short Story Award, and the Commonwealth Writer's Prize Best First Book Award, This Cake Is for the Party has received consistent rave reviews praising debut writer Sarah Selecky. In these ten stories, linked frequently by the sharing of food, Sarah Selecky reaffirms the life of everyday situations with startling significance. For upmarket women's fiction readers that love stories which reflect the joys and pitfalls of marriage, fidelity, fertility, and relationship woes, this collection is a conversation starter. This Cake Is for the Party reminds us that the best parts of our lives are often the least flashy. Reminiscent of early Margaret Atwood, with echoes of Lisa Moore and Ali Smith, these absorbing stories are about love and longing, that touch us in a myriad of subtle and affecting ways.
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Cassandra project by Jack McDevitt and Mike Resnick (SCIENCE FICTION) -- Early in his career, Jerry Culpepper could never have been accused of being idealistic. Doing public relations—even for politicians—was strictly business... until he was hired as NASA's public affairs director and discovered a client he could believe in. Now, a half century after the first moon landing, Jerry feels like the only one with stars—and unexplored planets and solar systems—in his eyes. Still, Jerry does his job, trying to drum up interest in the legacy of the agency. Then a fifty-year-old secret about the Apollo XI mission is revealed, and he finds himself embroiled in the biggest controversy of the twenty-first century, one that will test his ability—and his willingness—to spin the truth about a conspiracy of reality-altering proportions...
City of dark magic by Magnus Flyte (FICTION) -- Once a city of enormous wealth and culture, Prague was home to emperors, alchemists, astronomers, and, as it's whispered, hell portals. When music student Sarah Weston lands a summer job at Prague Castle cataloging Beethoven's manuscripts, she has no idea how dangerous her life is about to become. Soon after Sarah arrives, strange things begin to happen. She learns that her mentor, who was working at the castle, may not have committed suicide after all. Could his cryptic notes be warnings?
The valley of unknowing by Philip Sington (FICTION) -- In the twilight years of Communist East Germany, Bruno Krug, author of a single world-famous novel written twenty years earlier, falls for Theresa Aden, a music student from the West. But Theresa has also caught the eye of a cocky young scriptwriter who delights in satirizing Krug's work. Asked to appraise a mysterious manuscript, Bruno is disturbed to find that the author is none other than his rival. Disconcertingly, the book is good—very good. But there is hope for the older man: the unwelcome masterpiece is dangerously political. Krug decides that if his affair with Theresa is to prove more than a fling, he must employ a small deception. But in the Workers' and Peasants' State, knowing the deceiver from the deceived, the betrayer from the betrayed, isn't just difficult: it is a matter of life and death. Now the celebrated author and secret Stasi informer is ready to confess…
Mandarin gate by Eliot Pattison (MYSTERY FICTION) -- Shan Tao Yun was an Inspector stationed in Beijing, but lost his position, his family and his freedom when he ran afoul of a powerful figure high in the Chinese government. Without status, official identity, or the freedom to return to his former home in Beijing, Shan has just begun to settle into his menial job as an inspector of irrigation and sewer ditches in a remote Tibetan township when he encounters a wrenching crime scene. Strewn across the grounds of an old Buddhist temple undergoing restoration are the bodies of two unidentified men and a Tibetan nun. Shan quickly realizes that the murders pose a riddle the Chinese police might in fact be trying to cover up. To find justice for the victims and to protect an American woman who witnessed the murders, Shan must navigate through the treacherous worlds of the internment camp, the local criminal gang, and the government's rabid pacification teams, while coping with his growing doubts about his own identity and role in Tibet.
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Again experimenting with Reinhart's techniques and varying his recipes a bit.....in search of the KISS pizza I know is out there. This week I'm lowering the hydration a bit, just to make the dough easier to open up...to give it a bit more body so to speak. Here is the recipe to make 6 twelve ounce dough balls, using KABF, olive oil, cool tap water, salt and instant yeast.Flour (100%):Water (72.5%):IDY (.5%):Salt (2%):Olive Oil (2%):Honey (2%):Total (179%):Single Ball:1185.95 g | 41.83 oz | 2.61 lbs859.81 g | 30.33 oz | 1.9 lbs5.93 g | 0.21 oz | 0.01 lbs | 1.97 tsp | 0.66 tbsp23.72 g | 0.84 oz | 0.05 lbs | 4.25 tsp | 1.42 tbsp23.72 g | 0.84 oz | 0.05 lbs | 5.27 tsp | 1.76 tbsp23.72 g | 0.84 oz | 0.05 lbs | 3.39 tsp | 1.13 tbsp2122.85 g | 74.88 oz | 4.68 lbs | TF = N/A353.81 g | 12.48 oz | 0.78 lbsAgain dumped everything in Kitchen Aid bowl....mixed 4 minutes on stir, rest 5 minutes, mixed 3 minutes on stir plus one half. Poured dough onto a baking sheet smeared with 1 tablespoon of oil. Did a quick stretch and fold to lightly oil the dough ball. Scaled, balled and refrigerated.The following pizza dough was in the fridge for only 9 hours, it was reballed 4 hours prior to baking, and brought out of refrigeration 90 minutes prior to baking. I wasn't expecting much from this young dough, but was pleasantly surprised at it's amazing texture and good flavor. It was baked in 550 degree deck oven.John
Louis, The absolute hardest part about this dough is getting it out of the bowl...it is a gloppy, wet dough, but if you read the directions above, the dough is poured onto an oiled surface, stretched and folded to coat the dough, and then scaled, balled and refrigerated. If by chance the dough is super, super sticky, one can use a little more oil, or simply drop the scaled mass of dough in the oiled refrigerator container. For the experimentation I have done, I have used no further stretch and folds than the one to coat the dough with oil. My goal was to make this as simple as possible.As for my home oven, again after much experimenting, I've found that covering an entire rack with unglazed ceramic tiles, and then placing that rack on the very top shelf, creates a mini oven in my bigger oven....enough heat is held in the very top to nicely brown the edges...John
NormaThe reason I make 12s is because I have no self control in the least...if I made 18 inch pizzas I would just eat a ton more
Norma,In my experience, a new dough recipe can take some time to master, with a lot of miscues, big and small, before getting everything right. John (fazzari) has spent a lot of focused time with the various Reinhart dough recipes, including the hybrid Reinhart recipe, that he perhaps knows more about them and how to use and modify them than Peter Reinhart himself. John also knows how to skillfully cope with unexpected events that pop up from time to time to threaten to undermine his efforts. You are plenty skilled enough to get to the same stage as John with a bit more practice and a few more experiments. You always have about six balls in the air at one time that it is a wonder to me how you can find time to master any single dough recipe. To me, it is like trying to learn six different languages at one time. The way you work with your many pizzas reminds me of the guy in this YouTube video: .I also see a tension (for lack of a better word) between the Lehmann dough recipes, including the preferment Lehmann recipe, and the hybrid Reinhart recipe. On the one hand, the Lehmann dough recipes call for a modest hydration value that is intended for a commercial product and minimum dough handling. On the other hand, the hybrid Reinhart recipe calls for a considerably higher hydration value that is more in line with an artisan dough product that may require more handling of the dough, including re-balling and the like. I think that you may want to try to find the sweet spot of hydration, together with the use of more oil and sugar/honey, that gives you the best of both worlds. As you know, this will have to be done in the context of the ambient temperatures that prevail at market, both seasonal and the temperatures of your refrigerated case where you store the dough balls. I am confident that will be able to come up with a successful end product. Whether it will be good enough to displace the preferment Lehmann dough recipe remains to be seen. Peter
I made the hybrid Reinhart recipe tonight for a Saturday bake. I couldn't ball it cause of how wet it was, I followed the directions to a "T" but it was too sticky. I also noticed that it had small clumps of flour in the dough while I was trying to ball it, so being that it was so sticky, I had to add a little flour so that I could handle it and get it in the containers.My question is are those little clumps of flour that are in my dough going to ruin my pies when I make them on Saturday?staying true to the recipe I'm going to re ball on Saturday.Thank you,Vince


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S&P Sinks 1% as Oil Falls on Weak Outlook
NEW YORK ( TheStreet) -- U.S. stocks fell the most in five weeks Wednesday as a convergence of sluggish job creation, slow service sector growth and international conflict sent crude tumbling along with energy stocks including Tesoro Corp
The S&P 500 fell 1.1% to 1,553.69, the largest drop since Feb. 25. The Dow Jones Industrial Average closed down 0.8% to 14,550.35 while the Nasdaq finished off 1.1% to 3,218.60.
Private employers added 158,000 jobs in March, trailing an upwardly revised 237,000 in February and well below the 200,000 jobs that economists were expecting. Services sector growth makes up about 90% of the U.S. economy, according to the ADP National Employment Report. The ADP report is a precursor to a non-farm payrolls report for March due on Friday.
"The quarter is over, so some professional portfolio managers are releasing trades that they had held ... and now that they're past
March's ISM Non-manufacturing report tracking the services sector reinforced concerns about the labor market. The employment index component of the report fell to its softest since November, taking a bite out of the composite index based on indices measuring business activity, new orders, employment and supplier deliveries, pushing it down to 54.4% in March from 56% February. Economists were expecting a dip to 55.8%
"This report, along with the manufacturing ISM and ADP employment, hints that the pickup in momentum evident in the January and February data may not have been maintained into March," John Ryding and Conrad DeQuadros, economists at RDQ Economics in New York, said in a note.
Crude plummeted 2.8% to settle at $94.45 a barrel as inventories rose.
Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel said Wednesday that North Korea's latest actions pose a "real and clear danger and threat" to the United States. Reports emerged that the United States would be sending an anti-ballistic missile system to a base in Guam.
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If they'd only asked...Posted Monday, October 26, 2009, at 4:17 PM
I've been witness to a lot of strange things over the past 50 something years...teenagers with blue hair and purple fingernails, jeans that are worn around the calves instead of the waist, GPS systems in vehicles with voices that warn you when you get off track (it's almost like having the kids back home and mouthing at me from a seat on the dashboard), handheld devices that can tell me about anything from anxiety to zedonks...but I don't believe I've ever been witness to anything so obviously strange as all this stimulus money that's been thrown around over the past year.
If the present administration, in all their wisdom, would have just consulted with Minnie, I could have told them in a heartbeat where to divert funds to in order to truly make an impact on the national economy. It's such a simple plan, really, they'll no doubt be red in the face at reading this and wonder for the rest of their days how they missed a prime opportunity.
Here's the plan...simply issue a check for every woman over 50 who would like to be lifted, lowered, liposuctioned, tucked or trimmed, siliconed or implanted, augmented or aligned.
Give them each about $50,000. I bet it still wouldn't come close to what's been given to the automotive industry to bail them out.
THEN....watch what happens. Anyone with a lick of sense knows when a woman feels good about herself (which they all would once the swelling goes down and the pain diminishes), she wants to LOOK as good as she FEELS. And how does she go about felling good? By shopping, of course!
Within three months post-surgeries, I guarantee the stores will be full of shoppers. They'll be purchasing everything from shoes to shotguns (yep, they look so good in cammo now, they want to go deer hunting).
Clothes.....no problem! Department store employees will have a time keeping the shelves restocked as we get behind the wheel of our new ragtops and take to the highways to America's malls. And to get on those highways, we need FUEL...another industry saved by implementing such a simple plan.
This option would be good for all women when they reach the "age of reason"...around 50 something. So, you see it would be a continuing program to eventually benefit every woman in the country.
I guarantee you this old body is much more in need of repair than any bridge in the county. Forget funding highway improvements too.. I've got some 48-year-old stretchmarks that look like a massive interchange leading to nowhere that are in much greater need of "restructuring" than any of those concrete monsters. Rejuvenate on the homefront first, I say.
AND, when we look good AND feel good, we ARE good! Everyone's happy...friends, enemies (cause they got a "lift" out of the deal too), children and grandchildren...it's all part of the "trickle down" theory, you see. Reagan was right!
Down with programs like Cash for Clunkers. Up with Lipo and Lifts for Ladies!
It's such a simple solution...HELLLLLOOOOOOOOO... if they'd only asked.
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Oh, yeah! You know the old saying -- If mama ain't happy, ain't nobody happy!!
-- Posted by goat lady on Mon, Oct 26, 2009, at 6:14 PM
You would have a lot of rich doctors and grumpy old men who were left behind with a sagging behind!!!!!!!
-- Posted by Dexterite1 on Mon, Oct 26, 2009, at 7:22 PM
Minnie dear, you make more sense than any of those boobs in Washington. You should be the stimulus czar. Czar Minnie!
-- Posted by Ducky on Tue, Oct 27, 2009, at 3:09 AM
We do love it when our own Guru of Common Sense returns to the Statesman! Oprah and Maxine got nuthin' on you, Minnie!!
Now if those Men in High Places would just LISTEN!!
-- Posted by goat lady on Tue, Oct 27, 2009, at 8:52 AM
Minnie - you've returned!!! And how timely! Why, the cake lady has, too, been on a hiatus of sorts. Our menopausal minds must have been on the very same track, because I have been under the knife and had a few "procedures" in my absence - all in the name of helping the national economy. Before my dear husband's demise, he urged me to be kind to myself and find someone who would make me happy. In his honor, I found the nicest plastic surgeon who did his best to cheer me up. My dear husband would be so proud of me. I can almost position my mouth in a smile when I think of him...
-- Posted by letseatcake633 on Fri, Nov 6, 2009, at 4:55 PM
Minnie O'Pausal's response:Just in the "nip and tuck" of time! Welcome back, oh wise one. So glad to hear that the economy, with our help, will soon be back on track. And so glad that you abided by your late (bless him) husband's final wishes. Not to worry about that smile, dear. We can still laugh on the inside. Good cheer, dearie.
Minnie o'
Oh, oh, the gang's all here! (almost) How I have missed you all during your hiatus! The world has been a little more unkind since you left. I had no idea you were doing your part to support our economy! Plastic surgeons have to live, too, ya know!
Keep up the good work, ladies - and always remember Minnie's recipes for staying young! That Plaster of Paris idea works great in a pinch!
-- Posted by goat lady on Fri, Nov 6, 2009, at 9:55 PM
Even I enjoy Minnie's column even though most of the time I have no idea what she's talking about. Just enjoyable (no politics) involved. What a wonderful experience.
-- Posted by Dexterite1 on Sat, Nov 7, 2009, at 6:46 AM
And one more thing goat lady, if you 'google' Puxico, Mo the first thing that pops up is 'goatburgers'. Honestly, I did not make this up!!!!
-- Posted by Dexterite1 on Sat, Nov 7, 2009, at 6:48 AM
I'm not surprised, Dexterite. Puxico is known for their goatburgers. They have them every year at their homecoming celebrations.
Several years ago I tried to buy some goats from a local man, and he told me he was saving all 75 for consignment to the Puxico goatburger business.
It's a big deal over there.
The reason you don't understand Miss Minnie, Dexter, is that she's a WOMAN! Haha! We girls understand completely! But thanks for peeking in and appreciating her always-good humor!
-- Posted by goat lady on Sun, Nov 8, 2009, at 7:33 AM
I wholeheartedly agree with you, Minnie! What has come over us baby boomers? I know...we hit 50 something and suddenly we realize we have ONE MORE chance! I'm a chicken for pain but willing to try Lumineers! If Obama wants to send me the $800 per tooth, I'll call for my appointment!
I'm very patriotic!
-- Posted by lovebooks on Tue, Nov 10, 2009, at 10:11 PM
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Q: We have a child with disabilities. My husband says the stress of our situation has become too much and he wants a divorce.
We can agree on most things but have a big argument about support for our son. We will have to care for him forever (although there will be some public assistance). My husband says he has no obligation to support him after his 18th birthday. I disagree. Who is right?
A: Stress might be the least of his worries if he thinks leaving a marriage will end his responsibility just because the child turns 18.
Parents of mentally or physically disabled children who are incapable of being self-supporting may indeed have to provide support beyond the normal age of majority.
Unless the two of you agree, the court must make the decision on the support order, much as it would in any other case involving children.
Support typically ends when a child reaches age 18 or completes high school, whichever occurs last. But that is based on a presumption that the child is capable of becoming emancipated. A child with a severe disability may remain the responsibility of divorcing parents.
The court might order that certain expenses — such as uninsured medical expenses, in-home care and special-education costs — be divided in an equitable manner between you and your husband.
It is important for you to consult an attorney to make certain your spouse accepts his share of the financial burden.
Q: I am a recently divorced single parent with shared custody of 5-year-old twins. During our marriage, my ex was the main beneficiary on all of my financial accounts.
Because I don't have any close relatives or friends, can I name my children as the beneficiaries? If they are too young, then whom?
A: Unless there is a compelling reason to the contrary, the father will become the guardian of the children but not necessarily of the estate left to them.
Whenever minor children are left money, the Probate Court will appoint a guardian over the children's estate. You have the right to name someone to control the money or, if the relationship is a good one, to allow their father to control the money.
Meet with an estate-planning attorney to ensure that your wishes are honored. If you haven't changed the original beneficiary named on the account documents, your wishes might become confused. Take the time to review all account documents.
Central Ohio lawyers Jeffrey A. and Andrew Grossman specialize in family-relations law. Send questions for consideration in care of The Dispatch, Life, 34 S. 3rd St., Columbus, OH 43215; or by email.


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Redemption May 4, 04
A quick note to readers. We didn't include any Nvidia based parts in the benchmarks because at press time we hadn't received our 6800 (N40) from Nvidia yet (and comparing the X800 to the FX 5950 Ultra isn't the kind of comparison you guys are looking for anyway). We'll be pushing out a 6800 review/preview with comparison numbers as soon as we have the 6800 in our hot little hands.
VeGiTAX2 May 4, 04
Only double the performance? psh I guess I'll take 2. seriously it makes any and all resutls on my home system seem like trash. Great article if not a little depressing at points looking at that 9600XT trying to gasp for air. ^^:
If anything current XT owners can make a good deal right now since ATI has the Trade in value at $449.00 USD still. Trade up and wait until the new cards hit the market then bam use the $449 to put down on a new XT.
The 9800 Pro doesn't benefit as much as it only has a $199 trade in value.
If anything current XT owners can make a good deal right now since ATI has the Trade in value at $449.00 USD still. Trade up and wait until the new cards hit the market then bam use the $449 to put down on a new XT.
The 9800 Pro doesn't benefit as much as it only has a $199 trade in value.
Tweaker May 4, 04
Bummer I was looking forward to trading in my card but I want to see the great duke out between the x800xt and the 6800 ultra. Seems like it could be a very close match. Still it would be nice to have both........ '_'
VeGiTAX2 May 4, 04
Both? that's madness. But I like it... It will be pretty interesting to see how things go when the 6800 arrives, there really is no doubt AGP will really go out with a bang as both companies push it to the max in the coming months with variants of the cards. Sucks about the Softmod thing, wouldn't that have been sweet to get an SE and unlock it. saving like $200 in the process. The 9800 Pro 256MB DDR II model isn't even on the list. I guess those card owners really get the shaft in the trade up program. Personally I wish I had looked around on Ebay more to find a cheaper than retail XT so I could trade up and be able to get the X800 XT for like $50 while probably saving like $100 - $140 or so overall.
Killhawkfox2003 May 4, 04
So do we know who has the better specs yet or will we have to wait till they come out?
Sorry I dont know everything about specs and so on yet...
Sorry I dont know everything about specs and so on yet...
VeGiTAX2 May 5, 04
Specs are only telling so much right now. Neoseeker doesn't have a 6800 to work with or I should say set of 6800's to work with so the report is only showing ATI results right now. Once they get the cards in it'll only be a matter of time until we see a winner in the benches for the time being. No idea on what the future holds yet especially since these cards aren't even in retail production yet.
Ace May 5, 04
in talking with nvidia yesterday they expect a hefty bump in performance when the drivers mature a bit more. performance on the ATi side i think will stay fairly consistent since the R420 is very similar to the R300 series.
Tweaker May 8, 04
I actually went looking around for an x800 pro the other day while browsing but I stumbled upon another site forgot wht it was but they reviewed the 6800 ultra vs x800pro and x800xt pe and they have a pritty close match. They all were very close but the x800xt managed to keep a steadier frame rate. Pritty interesting, if I find the article I will post it back here.
Cheesysoapopra May 9, 04
PRITTY! <--- ahah!.. ok anyways.
From what I have seen, the x800pro beats out the fx6800, I have yet to see a review that says otherwise.
From what I have seen, the x800pro beats out the fx6800, I have yet to see a review that says otherwise.
Tweaker May 10, 04
OMG, went to megagames and i saw that the x800xt got 15,000 3dmarks. Even though it was a very oced system as they say and not too many people care about 3dmark,but that means that ati is the definite ruler in gfx!
Ace May 10, 04
if 3dmark is your quantifier for graphics card purchases, then go with a NV40- they score over 15,000 on a stock clocked system heh
Tweaker May 11, 04
um no last i checked it was only 12,000 for the 6800 ultra sorry to dissapoint and people made it clear that it was on a high oced comp.
Cheesysoapopra May 12, 04
I agree with the tone of Aces post though... Bases your decision on 3Dmark is not a great way to do it.
Tweaker May 12, 04
I didnt I was just correcting him on the score of the 6800 ultra. Didnt you read? Obviously not your just trying to make me sound stupid.
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Littlejohn Coliseum (currently under renovation)
The $63.5 million renovation project for Littlejohn Coliseum renovation began in late May 2015.
"This is an exciting step for the future of our basketball programs and our athletic department," director of athletics Dan Radakovich said. "We've said from the beginning of this process the goal is to have a completely different feel for our fans, alumni, students and student-athletes in this building, and that's the direction we're headed."
Littlejohn Coliseum has served many needs of Clemson University, providing a facility capable of hosting athletic, academic, recreation, and student affairs programming. Renovating the building to be a richer, more energetic, high-performance environment will add significant value to the University and provide a competitive venue for the basketball program.
The rebuilt Coliseum will inspire and engage both the players and the fans through a whole new interior layout and design that will be extremely media rich. In addition to a renovated playing arena and seating bowl (approximately 8,500 seats), the facility will incorporate all aspects of men's and women's basketball program operations. This includes coaches' offices, weight rooms, locker rooms, video editing and theater areas housed in a separate practice facility addition.
Littlejohn Coliseum will also see a significant upgrade to the quality and character of the public exterior face of the building. The massing of the building will in large part remain, but the incorporation of transparent materials and the use of light in more contemporary ways will be high on the list of desired changes. In the end, the building will be transformed in almost every way.
Justification: Littlejohn Coliseum has been a landmark facility for Clemson University and its athletic programs for decades. Historical renovations and upgrades have aided the facility in maintaining appropriate functional use to service the wide array of hosted events – graduation, convocation, basketball games and practice, high school graduations, concerts, career fairs, and other events. These events are integral to Clemson University outreach offerings and need to remain a part of activity programming. They will continue to do so with a renovated Littlejohn Coliseum. The men's and women's basketball programs at Clemson, however, need a differentiator amongst our peers. While Littlejohn Coliseum currently meets the functional needs to operate the programs, the facility lacks inspirational and stimulating features requisite for national-level attention and growth. A major renovation aimed at creating a high-energy, quality environment that is highly engaging for players and spectators is critical.
Finance: This project will be funded through a combination of Athletic Facility Revenue Bonds, Operating Revenues, and Gifts. The bonds will be debt serviced through the Clemson Athletics Facilities Trust, a Foundation quasi-endowment created through private gifts invested with the Clemson University Foundation.


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Nice Private Room in the Center
Size15 m²
Floor No.3(with elevator)
- Internet/WiFi
- Towels
- Elevator in building
- Smoking allowed
- Washer/dryer
Accommodation summary
|Via Claudio Monteverdi, 20131 Milan, Italy
|Property type
|Private room
|Property ID
|Acceptance rate
|Response time
|A few hours
|Calendar updated
You will be greeted by a trusted person that will explain every thing and give you the keys. And also everything you might need.
Maximum freedom and autonomy with greet willingness on our part and our charge to resolve questions and problems.
Very lively neighborhood with lots of nice shops, bars, restaurant nearby Corso Buenos Aires.
Things to do and see in Milan:
Il Duomo
La galleria Emmanuel II
Il teatro Scala
The Castello sforzesco
I Navigli
La Pinacoteca di Brera
Il Cenacolo di Leonardo Da Vinci
Happy Hour is an unmissable Milanese tradition, the suitable area is the Navigli and Corso Garibaldi.
The skyscraper and futuristic atmosphere of the Garibaldi area. And the final phase in construction for the Expo 2015
The Parco Sempione is a great place for relaxing. Where you can also find Arch of Peace.
House rules
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Reviews of this property
A clean and nice room in an old building. Simply furnished bathroom and kitchen. Nice host. Great location. Perfect option for those who don't need luxury during vacation.
Good option to see Milan. The location is great, the room it's clean and the anfitrion was kind: we had to left the room in the morning and he kept our luggage until 8 p.m.
super gelegene Wohnung, nur wenige Gehminuten vom Hauptbahnhof entfernt. U-bahnstation direkt vor der Tür .EinSupermarkt, Geschäfte, Bars und Restaurants in direkter Nähe. Das Zimmer ist genau wie auf dem Foto und aus der Beschreibung zuerkennen ausreichend groß und sauber..Wir würden jederzeit wieder kommen und es für einen Städtetrip weiterempfehlen.
Wir hätten uns noch einen Spiegel im Zimmer gewünscht und vielleicht könnte man den defekten Schlauch an der Dusche erneuern.
Reviews for this host's other properties
The apartment is close to the city center, near a subway station, with convenient connections to all urban areas. Near the apartment is a supermarket, many cafes. Easy to drink espresso and eat croissant early in the morning. Well equipped kitchen. The bathroom has a washing and drying machines. Owner is very helpful and friendly.
Good location and spacious apartment for 4 people. Safe compound and Host friendly. Could do with a few kitchen utensils and Electric jug needs replacing.
The host cancelled the booking, this review is automated.
Wifi is ok. Space is large. It is located near to subway but the building trembles slightly every minute because the trains are passing just under the building and there is train noise.
Areas to improve:
+The place could be cleaner (specially the shower and the kitchen)
+There was no soap and no shampoo, we had to buy to have a shower.
+There was no oil, no vinager, no coffee, like other places.
I enjoyed my stay at this apartment. Very clean, new furniture, and great location near the shopping streets
nice flat. big and well decorated.
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Terrasi wrote:I miss the poll. It gave me the illusion that my opinion counted.
In my cup: regular ol' dragonwell
Whiners will be subject to execution.Terrasi wrote:I miss the poll. It gave me the illusion that my opinion counted.
PolyhymnianMuse wrote:Terrasi wrote:I miss the poll. It gave me the illusion that my opinion counted.
Twas only an illusion anyway
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Question: If I boil water and let it sit, how long would it take to cool until it would become green tea brewing temperature? Like 5 minutes? 10?
Mary R wrote:Within twenty minutes of arriving back home, where did I find myself? On TeaChat. It's a sickness, I tell ya.
It's great to be back, and thank you for the special welcome! Vegas was fan-freakin-tastic and meeting everyone at Team Adagio was even better. They are some seriously hip and groovy people. And I better stop there or I'll write a gushing, 10 page summary on the awesomeness of the whole weekend...lemme stop jumping up and down first.
I added a poll to this thread. I know it's not in the general style of Chip's, but I thought you'd get a kick out of it anyway. Thanks for manning TeaDay, Victoria!
Salsero wrote:There are plenty of more expensive loose leaf teas that are worse than this. I will be drinking Red Rose again, I am sure, though I may not admit it again in this forum!
Salsero wrote:
Well, as a result of an intensive brainwashing campaign, I finally broke down and tried RR. It may not be what the high rollers were drinking in Vegas, but we are just Southern Boys here,
Somehow I had you pictured taller than that. Nice scarf.augie wrote:uncensored photo of myself and my dirty tea stash. No fancy baskets/organizers from Crate & Barrel or Pottery Barn. No hand-painted tins from worlds afar.


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Ok, not to sound like an ungrateful fan. I absolutely cannot wait for my show in DC on the 24th. And I'm excited to hear the great songs. But as many of us have said before, I wish Paul would dig further into is awesome song catalog to play some different stuff. Here's my "fantasy" setlist for this tour...
1. Rockestra Theme
2. Jet
3. Silly Love Songs
4. Lonely Road
5. Driving Rain
6. Spinning on an Axis
7. Paperback Writer
8. Penny Lane
9. I Do
10.Your Loving Flame
11.She's Given Up Talking
13.Got to Get You Into My Life
14.Lovely Rita
15.Your Mother Should Know
16.Let Em In
17.My Love
18.With a Little Luck
19.Back in The Sunshine Again
20.Honey Pie
21.Rocky Racoon
22.Monkberry Moon Delight
23.Helter Skelter
24.Maybe I'm Amazed
25.I Saw Her Standing There
--1st Encore--
1. Too Many People
2. Distractions
3. Rinse The Raindrops
--2nd Encore--
1.The World Tonight
2.Hey Jude
3.Blackbird (solo acoustic)
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@Max The Magnificent: "Those aren't liver spots; they're [some incredibly complicated name that ultimately translated into dry skin]."
I know what your're going through, Max. Was it Actinic Keratosis, perhaps? That's what sent me to a dermatologist, who looked me over (all over) and said she wanted a sample of two suspicious nevi and the thing on my earlobe before she burned off the AK with liquid nitrogen.
That thing on my earlobe, which looked like an oversize freckle, turned out to be Melanoma, in situ, Stage 0, which meant it was only in that one spot and hadn't had time to spread. Believe me, they couldn't get it off of me fast enough to suit me, but it was a week-and-a-half before the surgeon had an available appointment.
Now every 6 months I pay $40 to have two women look at my almost naked body (they wouldn't do that for free even in Canada!), but if they want to they get to stick me with needles and carve out chunks of my body, or burn parts of my skin off with liquid nitrogen. I've had all three of the lesions you mentioned, all caught in time.
Bottom line: I heartily endorse Max's Maxim: Don't Delay -- Visit Your Dermatologist Today!
If you want to you can check out the gory details of my personal journey with Melanoma on the earlobe and a Pedicle Flap (plastic surgery). Sorry, but I never got a photo of The Mother Of All Keloids that now hides behind my ear.


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Reviewed By Robert S (Haverhill, MA) Reviewed for a 2012 Dodge Durango —4/12/2015 5:18 AM
Easy to install about 30 min. No mods needed,nice sound when you step on the gas.
Reviewed By Mario E A (KATY, TX) Reviewed for a 2012 Dodge Durango —3/19/2015 7:12 AM
Got this at a great price and shipped quickly. You do have to drill a hole for the sensor, I'm not sure if any other intakes have them pre-drilled. It sits in the stock location, however it is not fully secured like OEM but it will be fine. Noise level outside definitely increased. Throttle response seems like it improved and gas mileage on road trips increased just a bit under 2 mpg. In city, no changes observed. pulls harder to redline.
Reviewed By Mitchell D (MORGANTOWN, WV) Reviewed for a 2012 Dodge Durango —6/20/2013 3:10 AM
I was stuck between this and the volant. Went with the afe because I want to be able to show it off, and I am bery pleased with it. High quality, improved throttle response and a lot more engine growl. Would deff recommend.


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Beard be gone! No-Shave November is over; bring on the best movie shaving scenes
The end of No-Shave November has left shards of stubble to clog up sinks and given me the perfect excuse to knock out a post I've been pondering for a while: The best movie shaving scenes.
What makes a good shaving scene? the threat of violence helps, with the potential for bloodshed and all. There's often some symbolic import associated with a clean start. And tension. Gotta have tension.
Here are five of my favorites follicle fleecings on film.
Mississippi Burning – You know what makes Gene Hackman mad? Murderous Klansmen who beat their wives. Pass the straight razor. This looks tricky.
Margin Call – In the midst of lopping off heads at a collapsing investment bank, Simon Baker strolls into the restroom, finds a weeping Penn Badgly – and proceeds to give himself a nice, soothing shave. Gotta look good for a high-stakes heist.
50/50 – How about a little love for the noggin? Joseph Gordon-Levitt's Adam is facing cancer treatment anyway, so he figures he'll just go ahead and shave his head. Seth Rogen is happy to help. But where have those clippers been?
Chinatown – Jack Nicholson's Jake Gittes gets lathered up, settles in for a shave, then has his mellow harshed by a fellow customer who doesn't approve of Jake's P.I. publicity. But it's OK; Barney the barber is around to tell a dirty racist joke. Nose troubles come later.
The Graduate – Dustin Hoffman's Benjamin Braddock goes and steams up the bathroom, a major novice move. Then he cuts his thumb open when his mom gets a little too close to the truth about Mrs. Robinson. Get it together, kid.


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Michael Kors is as traditional and classic a purveyor of American sportswear as you'll ever find, so when even he is exploring modernism, you know it's genuinely where the industry is headed. Kors is world-famous for his timeless, wearable separates and sleek evening dresses, and sleek is in fact a perfect word to describe Michael Kors Spring 2013. From striped knits to ensembles covered with digital prints of clouds and pools, the trim shapes in bold, preppy colors were clearly looking forward.
To say that the collection only had the future in mind, though, would be overly simplistic; there was also a heavy dose of 60s graphic idealism in the clothes, particularly in the stark way that colors were juxtaposed against white and black (and sometimes, against each other). In the end, though, it was more modern than mod. One only needs to take a look at Karlie Kloss's slim black finale dress to know which era won out.


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Topic: >rails s takes 5-7 min to load the Webrick - Help!
Moving this topic to this Topic Area - looks to be more appropriate for performance related issues than the Config/Install area.
So I am running Rails 3.1.0 on a brand new Windows 7 64bit Lenovo - and I cannot figure out what the deal is - Rails ran so much faster on my Win XP machine - crappy one at that.... Is there something I can do to speed the rails functions. rake is slow, my heroku and github pushes are slow - I tried loading a couple of add-ons to fix (active-reload, rails-dev-boost - no improvement.
Win 7 64bit
Ruby 1.9.2p290
Rails 3.1.0
Rake 0.9.2
Git 18.104.22.168msysgit.0
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Topic: Creating Dynamic directories
Hi.. Everybody
I am very new to this rails frame work and currently working on my 1st rails application and stuck with confusion of the best way of creating dymanic directory structure
the directory structure which I have to create in my application is like
that is my application should take the numeric values of year/month/day of that time .
In nutt shell
1. "How to create directories in rails ?"
2. "How to assign year/month/day values to the directories while creating them?"
so please if anybody could guide me the efficient strategy of creating such directories ,
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In 'Dirtyville,' every day is desperate
It's alarming to discover that Josh Green did not grow up in Atlanta, given his wicked precision in slicing the place down to its bleeding white bones.
"Like any American city, it's a juxtaposition of affluence and despair, knocking into itself," a character declares in "Dirtyville Rhapsodies," Green's debut short-story collection. Half of the book's 18 tightly plotted tales of devastated lives and toxic affairs take place in Atlanta, though not always in neighborhoods you'd care to visit after dark.
The deeply flawed residents of this so-called "Dirtyville" — high-dollar Buckhead prostitutes, visibly scarred veterans, over-the-hill drag queens — burn with everyday desperation that's anything but quiet. The author's wry comic sensibility brings levity to the gloom, but any laughter must be filed under "nervous."
Green, an Indiana native who relocated to Georgia in 2007, cut his teeth in journalism covering cops and courts for the Gwinnett Daily Post. Crime-reporting clearly informs the police-procedural overtones of the collection, in which drug deals, abductions and unsolved homicides occur as regularly as rush hour.
The first story, "Twenty-First Century Itch," delivers an opening salvo against modern complacency. Tommy Sparks, an under-achieving Army vet, becomes a local celebrity after his wife contracts a flesh-eating virus. While the plot has a ripped-from-the-headlines feel, it works double-time as a commentary on the banality of broadcast news and a fable of the uninsured.
Tommy kicks himself for squandering weekends in outlet malls and joins the Army "to wake up." The gnawing urge to break free of cultural norms flares constantly in "Dirtyville," mostly among middle-aged men.
A cast of workday regulars (cops, firemen, car salesmen) ache to believe that "modern society is benign and functional," as one story puts it, even as contradicting evidence mounts. Green frequently references our country's recent military misadventures and the global recession, shock waves that have left these characters anchorless, anxious and typically hooked on drugs or alcohol.
In "Dirtyville Rhapsodies," the most unforgettable stories strike an improbable balance between sideshow, sermon and war cry, leaving the reader to mull its idiosyncratic characters.