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Tottenham Riots
I suppose we can count on babblers to join the chorus of condemnation of the "rioters" as vandals, thugs, and probably agents provocateurs....
Well you can certainly count on us to spin it as justification for whatever we think it means.
Even a riot has to have a single, definable purpose, after all.
And what the hell has gotten into Billy Bragg?
6079_Smith_W wrote:
And what the hell has gotten into Billy Bragg?
Fame, fortune and old age.
Yeah, I guess we can get away with insulting old people, eh? And as for anyone with a bigger bank account than me, pass me another brick.
And you probably know that last statement was a joke. His statement was the most sensible thing I have read so far on this thread.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14436001 - labour mp
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14456065 - mugging
Edit: full speech by labour mp who represents tottenham
Very telling interview with journalist Darcus Howe
The Guardian has a live blog describing the scene.
Perhaps some of the cheerleaders here will reconsider when presented with the fact that there were people in some of the buildings that were set on fire. See the photo at the link of the woman jumping from a burning building.
Jamie Boxell, who runs the Gun Tavern in Croydon, said seven police officers screamed at the middle woman to jump from her burning flat after she was left behind in the evacuation.
Mrs Boxell, aged 34 years said: "A guy broke into the building where this woman lives and set a sofa on fire with a lighter.
"This was about 8pm and we were standing on the roof of the pub watching it all. The pub and surrounding premises were evacuated but then we heard this screaming and a woman was standing at the window.
"They pulled the rugs from the shop next door to make a soft landing and there were seven officers shouting and screaming at her to jump. She did and they caught her. She then walked off, she was really shaken up.
Photographer Amy Weston - who took the picture of the woman jumping from a burning house in Croydon yesterday - has spoken about the scene.
She told The Guardian:
I was told there were fires in the Church Street area, near Surrey Street Market.
By the time I drove towards it, I could already see the fires from my windscreen
There were six or seven people screaming and crying outside, and they looked like they lived at the flats that were burning. The flats were above small independent shops. A man in a white shirt was screaming that a girl was at the window and that she was ready to jump. He ran towards her but riot police had appeared and pulled him back, and they went to her instead.
As soon as she dropped, the crowds pushed back and there was no way to see what happened to her. I remember hearing people screaming that there were more people in the building. The crowds started getting angry with each other, with one group blaming another group for starting the fire.[/url]
British authorities might use plastic bullets to quell rioting that has swept the city for a third night and spread to other cities, a senior London police officer says.
Such bullets are "one of the tactics" being considered, Deputy Assistant Commissioner Stephen Kavanagh said Tuesday. Plastic bullets have never been used before during British disturbances.http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011/08/09/tottenham-riots.html I suppose in the past they have just used live ammunition.
@ Caissa
Did he actually say that?
Is Northern Ireland not a part of Britain?
@ Caissa
Funny that they can play with words like that to imply that this is an unprecedented step, when in fact the British invented plastic bullets and have killed people with them.
And gotta love this quote from that CBC article you cited:
"This is the uprising of the working class. We're redistributing the wealth," said Bryn Phillips, a 28-year-old self-described anarchist, as young people emerged from the store with chocolate bars and ice cream cones.
Phillips claimed rioters were motivated by distrust of the police, and drew a link between the rage on London's street and insurgent right-wing politics in the United States.
"In America you have the Tea Party, in England you've got this," he said.
M. Spector wrote:
I suppose we can count on babblers to join the chorus of condemnation of the "rioters" as vandals, thugs, and probably agents provocateurs....
Heh. I suppose we can count on M. Spector to be utterly unable to distinguish between the most oppressed and subordinated sections of modern capitalist society striking back against their overlords in the teeth of direct police suppression (UK), and a handful of masked individual provocateurs and/or assholes sabotaging a massive anti-imperialist movement under the benevolent and indifferent eyes of the police (Toronto). Quel dommage.
Of course, M. Spector... how could you have left out assholes?
And describing the G20 protests as "a massive anti-imperialist movement" has got to be one of the most overly hyperbolic claims I've ever heard.
The Socialist Workers' Party statement on the riots.
Whoever wrote this doesn't seem to realize which party was in power 13 of the last 14 years
Yes Blair was a failure(Iraq, rails, us puppet, enviroment, etc) but he did have accomplishments that should be noted. Minimum wage, decreasing unemployment from the Thatcher age, massive reductions in crime, etc.
Anyways, heres Ed Miliband. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14464136
That interview with Darcus Howe upthread has the following quote:
"I don't call it rioting. I call it insurrection of the people."
That interview with Darcus Howe upthread has the following quote:
"I don't call it rioting. I call it insurrection of the people."
Except for the people fleeing for their lives from burning buildings?
Before & after pictures:
Let's burn London to the ground and steal cell phones!! Clearly that is the route to socialist utopia!
So what do your think these young unemployed black youths with no future should do to improve their lives. I think the most telling link was the one where a rioter explained that a couple of thousand of young people had gathered to protest peacefully a few months earlier. They didn't even make the fucking news. When people believe they have no avenue to be heard they then go to violence out of frustration and anger.
Maybe if they lived in a real democracy they would have a voice but lets face it Blair's third way screwed this neighbourhood and others like it. So electoral politics is a dead end. Peacefully protesting is not even mentioned in the news. What does that leave?
If the UK was serious about ending the potential for violence it would stop the austerity measures and break up the right wing elites control of the media. Once they got back to having democratic institutions they might find the people are not willing and eager to burn down the city. Besides these youth were probably just celebrating Guy Fawkes day early.
LONDON -- As political and social protests grip the Middle East, are growing in Europe and a riot exploded in north London this weekend, here's a sad truth, expressed by a Londoner when asked by a television reporter: Is rioting the correct way to express your discontent?
"Yes," said the young man. "You wouldn't be talking to me now if we didn't riot, would you?"
The TV reporter from Britain's ITV had no response. So the young man pressed his advantage. "Two months ago we marched to Scotland Yard, more than 2,000 of us, all blacks, and it was peaceful and calm and you know what? Not a word in the press. Last night a bit of rioting and looting and look around you."
Eavesdropping from among the onlookers, I looked around. A dozen TV crews and newspaper reporters interviewing the young men everywhere.
The truth is that discontent has been simmering among Britain's urban poor for years, and few have paid attention. Social activists say one out of two children in Tottenham live in poverty. It's one of the poorest areas of Britain. Britain's worst riots in decades took place here in 1985. A policeman was hacked to death. After these riots, the same young man pointed out, "They built us a swimming pool."
That interview with Darcus Howe upthread has the following quote:
"I don't call it rioting. I call it insurrection of the people."
Hold your pom poms. He also summed that statement up with "that is the nature of the hysterical moment".
And when that fool interviewer asked him if he condoned what had happened he rightly bit her head off.
The only people I see rejoicing about this event are those looking to exploit the tragedy in some way.
Come to think of it, he might have said "historical" rather than "hysterical". But his distinction between "demonstrations that ended in conflict" and "riots" and his statement that he did not support what happened are clear enough.
Glasgow boy arrested for 'inciting riots' on Facebook:
At least the lad's happy
Early on Tuesday, he added: "Most hated man in Glasgow by any chance? Haha am (sic) all over Twitter n Google"
ikosmos wrote:
That interview with Darcus Howe upthread has the following quote:
"I don't call it rioting. I call it insurrection of the people."
Except for the people fleeing for their lives from burning buildings?
The use of petrol bombs and the burning of buildings is not only devastatingly destructive to the institutions and businesses in our community. It puts peoples lives at risk. In Handsworth in 1985, two people died when trapped in their flat above a shop, in 2005 a similar tragedy occurred in the Lozells district of Birmingham. On Saturday night in Tottenham families with children had to flee through a burning building to escape.
A good article explaining the causes and effects.
Perhaps those painting these riots as "opportunistic" (what a ridiculous descriptor for something happening countrywide) should read one of the links Freedom 55 posted upthread:
The truth is that riots almost always hurt poor, working class people. There's no riot that embodies a pure struggle for justice, that is not also partly a self-inflicted wound. There is no riot without looting, without anti-social behaviour, without a mixture of bad motives and bad politics. That still doesn't mean that the riot doesn't have a certain political focus; that it doesn't have consequences for the ability of the ruling class to keep control; that the contest with the police is somehow taking place outside of its usual context of suspicion borne of institutional racism and brutality. The rioters here, whenever they've been asked, have made it more than abundantly clear what their motives are - most basically, repaying years of police mistreatment....
A more sensible assumption, perhaps, is that you have a lot of young people with complex motives - avarice and adventure, sure, but also anger and defiance - some of whom are educated in certain traditions of resistance. For example, The Guardian reporter Paul Lewis (who is worth following on Twitter, by the way) was surprised that Tottenham residents all knew of the IPCC and were very critical of it. This surprise was misplaced. Those who are most likely to suffer police repression, and thus have to make use of complaints procedures, are of course going to be in possession of certain repertoires of knowledge concerning policing and the criminal justice system. They would make it their business to be informed, out of self-defence. I don't buy the idea that these kids are just clueless about the political background of their oppression. And I think they're most likely on a learning curve now, as yet undecided as to what wider political conclusions they will draw from all of this. Like it or not, they are now part of the wider ideological crisis, now a key ingredient in the slow-motion collapse of the political leadership. How they see their involvement here, and how their perception changes, long after the smoke has cleared and the empty rhetoric has stopped, should be of some interest.
Or, Tariq Ali:
Why is it that the same areas always erupt first, whatever the cause?
Pure accident? Might it have something to do with race and class and institutionalised poverty and the sheer grimness of everyday life?
The coalition politicians (including new New Labour, who might well sign up to a national government if the recession continues apace) with their petrified ideologies can't say that because all three parties are equally responsible for the crisis.
They made the mess.
They privilege the wealthy. They let it be known that judges and magistrates should set an example by giving punitive sentences to protesters found with peashooters.
They never seriously question why no policeman is ever prosecuted for the 1000-plus deaths in custody since 1990.
Whatever the party, whatever the skin colour of the MP, they spout the same clichés.
Yes, we know violence on the streets in London is bad. Yes, we know that looting shops is wrong.
But why is it happening now? Why didn't it happen last year?
Because grievances build up over time, because when the system wills the death of a young black citizen from a deprived community, it simultaneously, if subconsciously, wills the response.
Of course, M. Spector... how could you have left out assholes?
Can you tell the difference between the UK "rioters" and the anonymous unapprehended handful of window-smashers and cop-car torchers in Toronto?
And describing the G20 protests as "a massive anti-imperialist movement" has got to be one of the most overly hyperbolic claims I've ever heard.
Funny how some would legitimize the handful of G20 provocateurs, while diminishing the massive coalition of people in struggle against imperialism in all its aspects.
Anyway, calling my assessment "one of the most overly hyperbolic claims I've ever heard" has got to be one of the most overly hyperbolic claims I've ever heard.


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Just to convince myself that it's the yeast byproducts that flavor the dough I thought of a good experiment for tonight's pie with some of the CY that I recently purchased. I took 100g of yeast and heated it into 2 cups of water. I let this simmer for ~10 minutes to kill all the yeast. I then used this dead cell mass stock to supplement 50% of the water in my recipe. I am convinced that the flavor is not from the yeast alone, but it's all the products that these critters make. I know this may be obvious to some, but I needed to prove it for myself. I am cultivating some starters now and will be engineering my own in the coming months by trying to create a symbiosis with some brewer's yeasts. There are a few I tried in the past that had good flavor similar to the beer instead of water approach. I was originally turned off because of the lack of gassing power, but the Patsy's thread has reinvigorated my interests in using a sourdough culture for FLAVOR, then getting my performance issue corrected with ADY spiked in.Still tweaking the oven settings, but this was my latest pie tonight from the dead yeast cell experiment. I actually sheeted this right before cooking it. Oven settings were 425 bottom, 450 top, speed setting 50. (Whatever that means!) This one came out so pretty I had to pan it and serve it on the table. The crust however lacked the flavor of the beer method. This one is an American combination. Enjoy!
^^how much IDY did you end up using? (i'm trying to get a feeling for ADY/IDY conversions.) thanks!
I went with roughly 2/3 as much (I don't remember where I heard it, but I'd heard that that is a good ratio of IDY/ADY), and the 2.1% became about 1.7%.
Wow that's great for a rolling pin. Did you fold and roll hard? or did you superimpose 3 thin sheets and roll them together? Also how was the taste of the crust? Did you use Old English or some other malt liquor?
With an actual specific gravity, it might be easier to target a particular concentration.
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This tastes like soy sauce but it's soy free. Great for those with food allergies. Good alternative to soy sauce for Paleo diets too.
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This has a weird and interesting taste. It's a bit salty/umami - like soy sauce - but it is also quite sweet, so it's almost like a soy sauce mixed with a sweet vinegar. I guess it's not for everyone but it's growing on me and adds a nice edge to my otherwise limited diet.
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This was recommended by my nutritionist as an alternative to Bragg's liquid Aminos. It is a bit more subtle than Bragg's, and it adds just the right amount of zest to enhance the flavors (without overwhelming). I highly recommend it.
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"It's a prime time of my life, and I basically gave it away."
Julie Winokur uprooted her husband Ed Kashi and two children from San Francisco, California to New Jersey to take care of Herbie, her 83-year-old father with dementia. This film is an intimate portrait of a family who is "doing the right thing" but are struggling with the demands of caregiving and managing daily lives of work and school.
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Although "The Sandwich Generation" primarily focuses on the voices of the caregivers, the most agonizing and heartbreaking part of the film comes at about the seven-minute mark. In this scene, a deconstruction crew is cleaning out Herbie's home that he's lived in for more than 40 years. Glass is crashing, boxes of his personal items are being heaved into a dumpster, and he's left standing in his garage holding an old set of golf clubs he doesn't want to let go. We never really get to know the man at the core of this picture. He's discussed, he's photographed, he's cared for, he even sings a little at the end, but he remains on the periphery in a sense. And this scene grabs the onlooker and shakes us.
Looking for an image that could capture the depth of this week's show on the "far shore of aging" resulted in this complicated portrait on the spectrum of caregiving from MediaStorm. But it also introduced me to an incredible series of photographs by Ed Kashi titled "Aging in America." Eight years later, it's more important now than ever.


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I have noticed the IBeam and Element each comes with a VTC variation. The VTC on the IBeam is high and low and the Element as taming some lows if I am not mistaken. I have an Imix. My questions are:
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2. If it is possible, by adding these systems, will there be a "color", volume output or "feel" change to my system?
3. Is this easy to attach the system and where could I buy this as the VST seems to be one system.
4. Do the VST's have a feel bump or click so that I know it is in the neutral position?
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Skip to comments.No Smoking allowed on Ole Miss campus
Posted on 01/08/2013 9:56:55 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
OXFORD, Miss. (FOX13) -
If you are looking for a place to smoke on the Ole Miss campus, good luck with that.
The new "No Smoking" policy has it covered and is being strictly enforced.
Basically the policy reads you can't smoke anywhere on the Ole Miss campus. That includes the interior of all University buildings. As for the property or the grounds, you can't smoke on the sidewalks, parking lots, recreational areas, partially enclosed or open areas such as walkways, breezeways, patios, porches, gazebos, tents and bus shelters.
As for University vehicles, you can't smoke in them, you can't smoke in the campus bus shelters, golf carts, or any University rides.
In other words, no smoking anywhere at any time on the Ole Miss campus.
Most students thought it was a good idea saying that it will help clean up the campus and keep the air smelling a bit more fresh. Some of the student body didn't think the effort would help curb smoking saying people would do it anyhow.
If you do choose to smoke on the Ole Miss campus you will be fined $25.
University administrators are offering its students and staff ample opportunity to kick the habit.
Ole Miss has plenty of programs for the students to help them stop smoking. If you are a faculty or staff member at Ole Miss and would like to stop smoking, your insurance will cover up to three months worth of Smoking Cessation medication.
Nanny State PING!
They should be barred from receiving ANY funds from ANY tobacco settlements.
More intrusion on personal rights? Is smoking marijuana allowed.....if Sorority houses or Fraternity houses are on campus..is smoking disallowed there also? How about the over weight or chewing gum addicts.........
My SEC school, UF:
First Ole' Miss stopped the prostitutes from advertising on Craig's List. Now they are preventing smoking. What's next, guns and alcohol?
And no, I don't buy the "secondhand smoke causes cancer" argument against smoking in public.
We had this in Joplin @ the hospital. However a State hyway was used to reach the newly acclaimed Campus so to speak!
Was Funny all the nurses would go out to the crosswalk to fire em up! One guy there had a globe of the world that opened to be an ashtray with vent fan in office lol!
We were told one warning and we would be fired this included parking lot as well!
We were just construction workers!
Tabacco Companies used to be HUGE Republican donors
If they were huge DEMOCRAP donors we would be hearing about the many healthful benefits of "bathing your lungs in cleansing smoke"
This is an excellent opportunity to drive the Nasty Nellies nuts, with the use of simple "smudge pots". There will be cigarette police chasing all over the place after detecting the *odor* of cigarettes.
First get a bag or box of cheap mini candles in aluminum cups for a dollar or two. About an inch high, they are typically used as pumpkin lights on Halloween. Sprinkle cigarette tobacco on the top of the candle, light it, then put it in a larger empty can for food or drink. Then hide them around campus where they won't be noticed.
They won't give off smoke, but will act like tobacco scented candles. The best part is that it is hard to hone in on smells, so they will likely accuse innocent people of smelling like tobacco.
If done properly, large parts of the campus would reek of tobacco, with lots of complaints first about the tobacco, then against the cig police harassing innocent people.
They will be so confused when all those people stop smoking and the tax income from tobacco products dries up. Go figure.
Don't give 'em any ideas!
I would say "commies" but NO! I was in Shanghai a few weeks ago, no problem having a smoke in the bar as long as it was the smoking section. Really I had to go to a communist country to have a smoke without standing in the cold.
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That is pretty funny.
They could also leave a lit cigar in front of a fake doll on the bench.
Then put the video of them trying to fine them on YouTube. That will go viral.
I respected the hell out of the man, because, unlike many of his counterparts today, he truly encouraged intellectual discourse and debate in his classes, and my grades did not suffer in the least as a result of our divergent views.
I mention it only here in that he always had a pipe blazing with Borkum Riff Whiskey or John Middleton Apple tobacco...apparently Ole Miss would not suffer his presence on their campus.
Thanks for the ping!
Such people have no sense of humor, so before you can bust up their game, you have to frustrate their ability to persecute others. Only then can you turn them into objects of derision.
Smudge pots start the process effectively by both sending them on "wild goose chases", and fooling students, faculty, and administration that their actions are ineffective, because they can "smell people smoking".
Next, in frustration, the cigarette police become increasingly authoritarian and oppressive to innocent non-smokers, which breeds resentment. Other than searches and interrogations, they will likely start threatening innocent people who they think smell like smoke. "Suspects".
Then is the very best time to make fun of them, because it will tap into the pent-up frustration.
I've been doing that for a number of years on tobacco, gasoline, gross receipts, traffic tickets and whatever other kind of bullcrap is imposed statewide or locally.
No consequences yet. By the time I attract the attention of the powers that be, I will no longer be inhabiting this planet.
Either that, or I just ignore these infractions against my personal liberty.
There aren't enough cops to enforce all these laws - yet.
I don't like it, but I'm just proud that it took them this long.
No cigs in the South. Whoa.
The difference DC2K is, I am just little more succinct than WD :>)
(esp. of something written or spoken) Briefly and clearly expressed.
Not the whole South just the best part of the South
Yes...you are succinct, and concise. ;o)
con·cise (kn-ss)
Expressing much in few words; clear and succinct.
You two each have a different way of expressing things, and you each express it in your own wonderful, individual way.
IOW, you've both made your mark here, and neither of you ever disappoint me. ;o)
Too much bragging induces flirting with old men
You got a problem with that? ;o)
Noting jumps out at me !!!
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So I'm working on Ubuntu at the moment and for some reason bundler and gem can't seem to connect to their respective sources via the terminal! I keep getting this output back:
justin@jklx:~/dev/project/msc$ bundle install
Fetching gem metadata from https://rubygems.org/.
Error Bundler::HTTPError during request to dependency API
Fetching full source index from https://rubygems.org/
Could not reach https://rubygems.org/
justin@jklx:~/dev/project/msc$ gem update
Updating installed gems
ERROR: While executing gem ... (Gem::RemoteFetcher::FetchError)
SocketError: getaddrinfo: Name or service not known (http://rubygems.org/latest_specs.4.8.gz)
This happened yesterday and it seemed to fix itself after a couple of hours but it's happened again today. The website doesn't seem to be down when I go and visit it so I'm guessing it's not a maintenance issue either.
I'm completely stumped as to why this is happening. For all other intents and purposes my internet connection seems to be fine. I'm not on a proxy server, although I do use one when I'm at university from time to time. I have double checked that those settings aren't currently applied though. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance!
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BRONX – Ten emission-free, GEM neighborhood
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Housing Authority (NYCHA) developments thanks to the New York Power
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"The Power Authority has a long and productive
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To be clear, we're not simply saying that people who believe in evolution have done bad things. People who have professed Christianity have done bad things too. But when people do bad things in the name of Christianity, it's easy to see their behavior is inconsistent with the system of belief they profess. Simply compare what they do with what the Bible teaches.
Not so with evolution. People who commit wickedness as evolutionists act in a way that is consistent with that worldview. No God, no law-giver. No law-giver, no universal law. No universal law, no judgment. And no judgment means sinners feel free to commit sins with impunity. As John said, the consequences of one's view on origins are far-reaching and hard to overstate.
As the dominant worldview of the scientific community, naturalism is an imposing and intimidating opponent of Christianity. These days many Christians are seeing another side to naturalism and evolutionary theory; they see a friend, not an enemy. Such Christians are increasingly comfortable (and vocal) with harmonizing evolution's insistence on long ages andbeneficial mutation with the Christian faith.
The question is why. Why do Christians want to make friends with evolution? Is the scientific evidence—actual facts—overwhelmingly in favor of an old earth and macro-evolution? Or, is something else going on here?
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To answer the first question, "why do Christians want to make friends with evolution?" One must ask, what is a Christian, how do we define Christianity? I am convinced many have missed the target in defining Christianity. Please forgive my redundancy, but we go along we people that say are confessed believers in Christ, but can even set time apart to either pray or read Scriptures. One cannot know if they are not part of the body of Christ, or perhaps they are in the process of conviction as part of God's sovereign election. Yet, we do not know.
What does one must do then? Evolution is a diabolical view no different from that of Oral Roberts 'Christianity', Benny Hinn, Paula White, or Joel Osteen, Marcus Witt, TBN. Before all this mess that Satan has been allowed to create there is no doubt in my soul we should continue preaching the Gospel of Jesus, the full counsel (Genesis to Revelation) to the world and let God do what he does best, exercise his will. Romans 8: 28-39 covers perfectly what the will of God is and his sovereign election, doctrine of imputation, justification, etc.
The second question about scientific evidence, the Apostle Paul deals with it in Romans 1: 18-24. On the follow question, yes, there is something else going on here and it is called the will of God, and him allowing things to take place because at the end everything boils down to His glory, and must of all his holiness. Cannot be afraid or amazed with what is going on, rather be firm in the word and study it well in order to teach it. God bless GTY and JMAC, amen.
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It's not complicated. Too many are more interested in being accepted than in being right. If there's any heat to be anticipated for standing for truth against error, pseudo-Christians and those who don't understand the issues at stake opt for whatever "common ground" they can find.
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Why do "Christians" want to make friends with evolution? Quite frankly the reason is to be found in the understanding of their true nature. The following is taken from the August 1887 Sword and Trowel where Charles Spurgeon writes about the "Down Grade" controversy of his day.
"A student from a certain college preached to a congregation we sometimes visit such a sermon that the deacon said to him in the vestry, "Sir, do you believe in the Holy Ghost?" The youth replied, "I suppose I do.", "I suppose you do not, or you would not have insulted us with such false doctrine." A little plain-speaking would do a world of good just now. These gentlemen desire to be let alone. They want no noise raised. Of course thieves hate watch-dogs, and love darkness. It is time that somebody should spring his rattle, and call attention to the way in which God is being robbed of his glory, and man of his hope."
When I say that it is in their nature I refer to their fallen nature. They neither hate sin nor do they fear sinning. Theirs is the god of Marcion of the time of Polycarp a disciple of the Apostle John. They have an unbiblical view of God because they have never come to know Him. The scriptures reveal that God so hates sin that He poured out His wrath on His own Son as a substitute in order that He might save a people for Himself that He might deliver us out of this present evil age (Galatians 1:4), that He might present to Himself the church in all her glory, having no spot or wrinkle or any such thing; but that she should be holy and blameless (Ephesians 5:27), that He might redeem us from every lawless deed and purify for Himself a people for His own possession, zealous for good deeds (Titus 2:14).
The scriptures also reveal that The Thrice Holy God so hates sin that He will pour out His wrath on the unregenerate not for an hour, not for a day, a year, a millennium, or an age but for all eternity. Hell will not only be a place of mental torment and an emotional torment but it will also be a place of physical torment. The Thrice Holy God so hates sin that He will create a new body for the unregenerate sinner that cannot be destroyed throughout all eternity in a literal lake of fire. These compromisers of God's word have no concept of Biblical reality.
Most "Christians" in America today have a faith that has cost them nothing. On judgment day they will find that their "faith" benefited them nothing but will have cost them everything. It was the false prophets of Jeremiah and Ezekiel's day that spoke smoother things than God would allow. They spoke "peace, peace" when in the end they found out there was no peace (Jeremiah 8: 10, 11 and Ezekiel 13: 9, 10). Unregenerate "professors" and unregenerate "pastors" and "preachers" have been common in the days of the prophets, the days of our Master, the days of Luther, Calvin, Whitefield etc. What makes us think we are so special?
If you see yourself as being lost in sin and in need of a Savior to deliver you from sin, flee to Christ. He will not turn such sinners who flee to Him for mercy away as it is written "He came to save His people from their sins" (Matthew 1:21). Lord, grant that souls be snatched from the flames. –His Unworthy Slave
There are a few reasons why so-called evangelicals want to adopt evolution and other forms of higher criticism. It could be pure ignorance. These men have spent too much isolated time in their lofty theological halls studying their niche specialty to notice a counterfeit. They just have not studies it enough This may be granting too much though. I fear some of these men who move about in only elite educated circles are blinded by their love of the educated elite. These so called evangelicals for fear of another copernican revolution and galileo incident are inclined to cast their vote ignorantly with the darwinian "scolastics" and "edicated" scientists of the world. They may see this support as not associated with the gospel and thus not worthy of a Pauline anathema. These men think they are actually doing a service to the gospel by showing the world that Christianity doesnt just believe in the fanciful in the light of "respected scholarly wisdom"(though we know it is not). They then craft poetical frameworks and odd linguistic and literary theories to show God never intended to have the genesis account be taken literally. Thus they think they are upholding the inspiration and authority of scripture in its intended genres on the one hand and gain weight and sympathy of the scholarly scientists on the other hand.
We both know unfortunately the creation/fall account is linked to the gospel/ recreation of the new covenant, and that all of the Bible is to be taken at face value and literally unless the text itself says to do otherwise. So this compromise is dividing what could be a united stand of christianity against darwinianism and humanism. It also weakens our witness to the world by these false teachers leading many of the flock astray or telling them to view creation/fall as a less important subject. It also teached them that God's word can be tweaked and twisted "all in the name of biblical literary fidelity to the God-given inteded genre" It tells them we can re-interpret whatever seems too hard to understand, and yet still be a christian. It is alright they say to not take creation, or the millenium or the olivet discourse literally. God didnt want us to they say and then they show us with their exegetical hopscotch how the genre demands we dont believe it at face value. This is Lucifer at his best. He loves to infiltrate and masquerade. Lastly I also fear these evangelicals so called simply do not leieve the miraculous and Divine works any longer as it is too much an affront to the intellect and the intellectual cirles they move in and aspire to be praised by in the world. All of these reasons are leading many astray and weakening and lessening the message God intends us to proclaim with authority. This is and has been an inroad to reinterpret the gospel narratives, miracles and deity of our Lord and Savior. It is a virus and the only cure is faithful biblical pulpits, seminaries, and saints in their vocations to thwart it. I pray this blog be a herald to take up a defense of the word of God in its fulness.
# 4 Very wise words, Pastor Harris. Very succinct, and very, very wise.
God bless you. :)
Perhaps a significant reason is the volume and assertiveness of evolutionists claiming the truth of their theory. Because most people, especially theologians, are not scientists, who are we to contradict the scientist? The logic goes some like: the scientist has no business telling the theologian what is true in the spiritual realm, so also the theologian has no business telling the scientist what is true in the science realm.
Of course that is faulty logic because each can study other disciplines and discover the truth for themselves. Just for an example, I listened recently to a geneticist explain in painful detail how the DNA in chimps is extremely similar to humans. The point this Christian geneticist was trying to make is that there is clear evidence that humans evolved from chimps, so Christians shouldn't be afraid to believe in evolution.
After an hour of listening to this lecture I came to the following decisive conclusion: this scientist proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that chimps and humans have remarkably similar DNA. He did nothing to prove that therefore humans are descended from chimps. This scientist merely assumed that similarity means common ancestry. Because he offered no other evidence, his entire argument added nothing to support his premise.
But some Christians would listen to that and because most of it is over their heads, they accept the assumptions the scientists make, rather than thinking it through logically. In other words, most Christians naively accept the conclusions of science in the same way they naively accept all the Christian "fads" that come and go. They just don't think.
I like what Paul Copan had to say on epsociety.org, because I think this is what is missing from fruitful discussions: for every argument for creation, the atheist has an answer from natural mechanisms alone. I don't think for a moment that Satan will sit idly by, without a clever retort. The real desire here, on the part of the atheist, is the desire to avoid bowing the knee, not winning a debate. Peter Hitchens said as much when talking about this brother! I just love the study of apologetics and religious philosophy, but at the same time I am developing the observation that, even if we had a failsafe, drop dead put down defense of the faith, unbelievers will still choose to go their own way (Isa. 53:6). As Gabriel said, there really is no valid response for the atheist, only evasion, misdirection, or complaining.
Those "Christians" who would like to cozy up to this doctrine of evolution, suffer the same malady the early interpreters of Bible suffered from; embarrassment & shame.
They are ashamed of the anthropomorphisms and embarrassed by literal interpretation of Gods Holy word.This is why the early interpreters allegorized scripture.Because it's literal meaning embarrassed them.It's not "cool" to believe in a literal 6 day creation, so they allow for allegory in order to make friends with the world.
The question is why.
Man is fallen
Why do Christians want to make friends with evolution?
False Christians, lukewarm perhaps. Christians who are ignorant to the Word of God, since they are disobedient in reading it as commanded in 2 Tim. There's just no excuse for not knowing the word of God today. False teaching from false teachers: Joel Osteen, Joyce Meyers, Pat Robertson, etc.
Is the scientific evidence—actual facts—overwhelmingly in favor of an old earth and macro-evolution?
I do not believe the evidence is overwhelming, but it is cofusing and inconsistant.
Or, is something else going on here?
Few preacher's are preaching, and even fewer parents are parenting. Accountability begins within the house of the Lord.
The world could peddle their oils day and night, but if God's people are obedient to His word, then even the gates of Hell will not prevail against it -- the Truth. The truth about creation.
False Christians, lukewarm perhaps. Christians who are ignorant to the Word of God, since they are disobedient in reading it as commanded in 2 Tim. There's just no excuse for not knowing the word of God today.
Well said, Darla! Many preachers are neglecting their responsibilities to sheppherd their OWN flocks; Christian parents are negligent in THEIR responsibilities to raise up Godly children (it's NOT the Sunday School teachers' responsibility), & Many Christians in general are lazy in their commitments to Christ & personal Bible STUDY (NOT just reading for pleasure, but STUDYING to show oneself approved!) We can all share some of that blame, I know I have failed many times, but THANKS BE TO GOD for HIS UNENDING LOVE FOR HIS ELECT! THANKS BE TO JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD AND SAVIOR!
The following article was posted on Answers in Genesis. I believe it is tangential to the subject of this thread and related to a previous subject as well. If Dr. MacArthur and GTY Blog Staff think it is inappropriate to post it here, I will understand its removeal. I think it addresses potential consequences of Christians 'mak[ing] friends with evolution'.
"Seminary Prof. [Dr. Bruce Waltke] Resigns over Pro-Evolution Comments"
Lois, we did have a long discussion about Waltke in this post:
Some additional resources on this subject for your's (and others) consideration:
Thank you, Fred. Yes, I enjoyed that discussion and participated in it. However, I must have missed the information posted there that told us of Dr. Waltke's recent resignation. My apologies for lack of attention to detail.
False Christians, lukewarm perhaps. Christians who are ignorant to the Word of God, since they are disobedient in reading it as commanded in 2 Tim. There's just no excuse for not knowing the word of God today. False teaching from false teachers: Joel Osteen, Joyce Meyers, Pat Robertson, etc.
False Christians? Really? You really consider people like Tony Evans, and Jack Van Impe to be false Christians because they believe in an old earth? They may not necessarily believe all the facets of evolution, but they do believe in millions of years and that the day so creation are not literal 6 days. Can you really deny their love for the Lord and that they preach the gospel and accuse them of being false Christians? (Come to think of it, do you really consider Pat Robertson to be a false Christian? I agree, he's bit of a flake, but he preaches Christ, unlike Osteen and most [if not all] of the so-called "faith teachers").
You won't find this Christian believing anything other than 6 literal days of creation and that that is the foundation for the truth of the gospel. However, just because someone may not have a solid foundation in his philosphical viewpoint of the gospel, doesn't mean he doesn't believe the gospel to be just as true as you believe it to be. They may not have a philosophical leg to stand on (LOL), but they may be just as Christian as you or I. They may not "rationally" be Christian, but still be Christian nonetheless. I think it's hardly fair to judge someone to be a false Christian who obviously has the works of Christ to back their faith and when they preach the gospel, the Incarnate Christ crucified and risen from the dead for each and every one of us who are all sinners, His ascension and return one day without watering it down, or mixing it with other mumbo jumbo such as works, or mysticism, or whatever else. They may not have a sound foundation for why they believe the things they do (sadly), but can we deny them based soley on that?
Although it annoys me to NO END when people believe the way they do about things like creation and millions and millions of years (that's fun to say - it makes me laugh every time, it's just so silly!!), my concern is with those who pervert the gospel!!!, mix it with works, or change it in some way, or change who Christ is in some way, or whatever!
You know, in a way the evolutionists are kinda right about millions and millions of years; they're just wrong about when because they haven't happened yet. And to think we'll just be getting started, not even so. Trillions and trillions and trillions of years from now we won't even have spent our first moment in eternity. Phew!! Sure hope I have saving faith!
It would be interesting to compare how many men beginning to cave in on a literal, historical interpretation of Genesis 1-3 reflect the same kind of hermeneutic regarding the Second coming of Christ (and the ascension for that matter). I know this has already been touched on in the blog, but I found these comments by John MacArthur from his exposition of 2 peter 3 to be related. He said the following:
"Let me give you something you might not understand at first, but think it through. I believe that liberal theology is not the product of intellect, it is the product of immorality. It is the direct child of passion. It is an effort to deny spiritual accountability. ..
"Let me give you something you might not understand at first, but think it through. I believe that liberal theology is not the product of intellect, it is the product of immorality. It is the direct child of passion. It is an effort to deny spiritual accountability. ..
[Liberal theologians] want to ignore the inexorable law of Romans 1:18, that the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all unrighteousness. This shows up nowhere more clearly than in evolution...Evolution is not the child of science, it is the child of sexual liberation. It is not produced by people who have come to it purely from the intellectual, it is produced by people who wanted no meaning to culture, no meaning to behavior, no judgment, no accountability, no God; so they could live any way they want to live. It's a moral issue, not an intellectual issue…
There is the real reason for believing in atheism, evolution, or liberal theology. Eliminate accountability, eliminate judgment. And if you believe in God, then God is a loving God who just sits up there and smiles at everything. You have to deny that God will judge sin if you're going to free yourself up to sin to the max, right? Don't kid yourself for a moment, these people parading themselves around as intellectuals are not intellectuals, they are moral midgets. They want liberation for sexual freedom and they want an accommodating philosophy."
Dan #16, I don't think that is what the commenter meant. I would imagine what was more in mind is the notion that the similar theological error that propels individuals like those in the health and wealth movement, a severe lack of biblical authority, is also present with many of those individuals who promote old earth views of Genesis.
I am not sure if you saw it, but we addressed this situation under this post:
I actually had a few exchanges with others who saw the compromise with evolutionary deep time ideas as being pertinent to a person's salvation. You can read my comments which specifically address your concern under #10, #37, and #49
It is bothersome for me to classify Pat Robertson along side Osteen and Meyers; however, he has gone down the road of name it and claim it, read his book The Secret Kingdom, and a few others. He and his staff claim knowledge in healing those watching his TV show.
Mr. Robertson is an intelligent man. He has a been educated at some of the finest schools in our country, Harvard I believe. He comes from a prominate family etc etc. Nevertheless, I cannot ignore some of the things he preaches. Besides, at his age, and with his knowledge he should no better even than I.
I think you intended to address Dan, from post # 16. Thanks for your comments--well said.
Tommy -- you're right and you are right in your post #17. It truly is about accountability.
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Hill Training ABCs
When running hills, follow these guidelines:
- Since you are running relatively slowly on hills even though you're working hard, the exact pace is not as important as the effort. Aim for a specific effort rather than a specific speed. Monitoring heart rate with a heart rate monitor is a great way to make sure you are working hard enough and maintaining an even pace.
- To increase VO2max, run up a hill that takes at least three minutes to climb. If run at about 5K race-pace effort, your heart rate, stroke volume (the volume of blood pumped by the heart per beat) and rate of oxygen consumption can rise to their maximum values. (In a laboratory setting, the VO2max test is almost always performed using an increase in treadmill grade as a way to use more muscle mass and force runners to reach their VO2max.)
- When running downhill, shorten your stride to prevent overstriding and emphasize a quicker leg turnover. It should feel like controlled falling.
- Given the stressful nature of downhill running, treat downhill workouts as hard sessions and allow two to three days of easy running afterward. Back off the hills in the final couple of weeks before a race.
- Incorporate downhills into training slowly. Start with a short, gradual slope of about two to three percent, and progress to steeper and longer descents.
- Since you are running faster on downhills than flats or uphills, there is less time to decide on foot placement, so look ahead several steps.
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Warm up and cool down before and after each workout.
- Hill Run. Do a basic trail run of 4 to 8 miles that includes hills of varying lengths and grades.
- Long Hill Repeats. Run 5 to 6 x ½-mile uphill (5- to 8-percent grade) at 5K race-pace effort with jog back down as recovery.
- Short Hill Repeats. Sprint 8 to 10 x 100 meters uphill (15- to 20-percent grade) with jog back down as recovery. Exaggerate your arm swing, lean into the hill and focus on pushing off the ball of your foot.
- Uphill-Downhill Repeats. Run 4 x ½-mile uphill + ¼-mile downhill (2- to 3-percent grade) at 5K race-pace effort with three minutes jog recovery.
- Short Downhill Repeats. Run 8 to 10 x 100 meters nearly all-out downhill (2- to 3-percent grade) with jog back uphill as recovery.
- Hill Accelerators. Run 4 to 8 x 200- to 400-meter hill. Start with a 200-meter flat section at race pace, then run the bottom of the hill at race-pace effort and accelerate the last 50 to 100 meters, with jog back down as recovery. The focus of this workout is the acceleration at the top of the hill, which is opposite of the recovery that runners naturally want to take at the top of a hill. Pump your arms to help you accelerate and lengthen your stride.
- Hill Bounding. Using an exaggerated running motion, bound 6 to 8 times up a steep hill (15- to 20-percent grade) for 40 to 50 meters and jog back down. Try to achieve as much horizontal distance with each bound. Focus on fully extending the push-off leg and driving the knee of the forward leg up.


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NEW ULM – The City of New Ulm plans to examine its policies on alcohol license violation penalties after conducting a comparative survey of how other Minnesota cities carry out the same enforcement. A subcommittee will be formed to determine if any revisions should be made to its policies.
The survey showed that New Ulm has the lowest penalties and fines of the cities that responded. Additionally, New Ulm's Best Practices incentive policy is a distinct minority.
New Ulm's policy currently penalizes a first-time liquor license violation with a $250 and a five-day suspension of the license. Second violations are a $500 fine and a 10-day suspension. Third violations are a $1,000 fine and a 15-day suspension. Fourth violations are revocation of the license.
Violations under New Ulm's ordinances are sale of alcohol to an underage person, sale of alcohol to an obviously intoxicated person, sales after-hours, illegal gambling on the premises, failure to pay penalties associated with a violation or a business without an off-sale license failing to stop a person from leaving with an alcoholic beverage. In addition, any violation related to felony, done while only holding a 3.2 percent malt liquor license or done while the related license is under suspension or revocation is grounds for immediate revocation of the license on the first offense.
Of the 11 other cities surveyed, first-time penalties ranged from $250 to $1,000 with the most common penalty being a $500 with one to five days of suspension. Second violations ranged from $500 to $1,500 with the most common being $750 with one to 10 days of suspension. Third violations ranged from $1,000 to $2,000 with the most common being $2,000 and six to 60 days of suspension. The fourth violations were uniformly revocations of the license.
New Prague, Lakeville and Bloomington had the steepest penalties, quickly ramping up to $2,000 fines and long suspensions. However, Bloomington's bigger fines only applied to the licenses for on-sale liquor, on-sale club liquor and off-sale liquor.
Beyond the penalties, New Ulm has an incentive tool with its Best Practices policy. The policy requires participating bars or stores to have 75 percent of their employees trained in alcohol compliance requirements within a short time from being hired. The businesses are also required to set up internal compliance training programs. The reward for the participating businesses is a 15 percent reduction on annual liquor license prices, and the discount jumps to 25 percent if they go three years without a violation.
Additionally, the policy exempts the businesses from the licenses suspensions but not the financial fines until the third violation. At that point, the business is kicked out of program, subject to the normal third violation enforcement and unable to reapply for the policy for a year, thus losing the discount on their license.
Survey results indicate the Best Practices policy is fairly uncommon. Only three cities carried a similar policy – Lakeville, Maplewood and Mendota Heights. Lakeville had the biggest difference between its penalties and Best Practice penalties. The first violation is $1,000, the second is $1,500 plus a six-day suspension and the third violation is $2,000 and a 12-day suspension. The Best Practices penalties were exactly half the size of the fines and half of the days of suspension.
After receiving the report on Tuesday, the New Ulm City Council decided to form a subcommittee to further review the information and make suggestions on any changes to the policy.
Although many details are pending, preliminary members of the subcommittee will be Councilor Les Schultz, Councilor Lisa Fischer, City Manager Brian Gramentz and New Ulm Police Chief Myron Wieland. By law, the subcommittee meetings must be open to the public and have its meeting times posted ahead of each session. Any changes suggested by the committee will not take effect until close to the end of the year.
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Here's how RW members rated this race in the past (593 votes).
In short: This race is a must in anyones calendarIn full: Probably the best Slog i've done, I have never run it wearing sunglasses before - the weather definately helped keep you warm in between the dips in ditches, bogs and dips! I love this race, the people, the terrain and the mud - brilliant!Date of review: December 14, 2011
In short: Overall an excellent race - Roll on the mud for 2012!Date of review: December 9, 2011
In short: A fantastic race! Discovered my inner mud woman! Date of review: December 9, 2011
In full: Another year and a great race brilliant as always thanks to the organisers and all those smilin marshalls well done would not happen with out your effort keep up the good work Date of review: December 6, 2011
In short: Great fun muddy event - recommended In full: This legendary event is all it's cracked up to be. A race of friendly and helpful runners, excellently organised and marshalled by the friendly and helpful Bitton Road Runners and crew, what more could you want? Mud? Yup got that.... a fair bit of marshy stuffHills? At least one to challenge any tired legs. Confused cow? Yup a few of them. Certainly enough entertainment to keep you amused on an autumnal morning. Date of review: December 5, 2011
In short: Great fun, doesn't get any easier!!Date of review: November 29, 2011
In short: Someone told me it was a flat road race....In full: Hats off to Bitton Road Runners (although there was precious little "road" in the slog!) for organising such a superb event.This isnt a race where you can think about a PB, this isnt a race where having the newest kit matters - this is a stripped down, the reason we run sort of race and long may it continue!Date of review: November 29, 2011
In short: Fab race as always, mud, muck, filth and most of all fun!Date of review: November 26, 2011
In short: Great eventIn full: Enjoyed my first SlogDate of review: November 24, 2011
In short: This was my third Slog and it is definitely one of my all-time favourite races!! One of the reviewers said how it makes one feel alive - I'd agree wholeheartedly with that!! And thanks for the jelly beans too!Date of review: November 21, 2011
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