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Skip to comments.THE STOPPING POWER OF DIFFERENT HANDGUN CARTRIDGES
Posted on 02/22/2003 8:34:22 PM PST by 2nd_Amendment_Defender
General Julian Hatcher, a noted forensic pathologist, in the early 1900s developed a good formula to determine the theoretical stopping power of a firearm cartridge. His formula has withstood the test of time and validation from other studies and data related to stopping power.
You want a handgun cartridge that has a Hatcher value of over 50 for the most effective stopping power. Values over 55 have diminishing returns in that you dont gain any significant increase in stopping power for the extra recoil and control you must cope with. Handgun cartridges that dont make a value of at least 50, should not considered for self-defense. If the rating of your handgun cartridge is under 30, it only has about a 30% chance of producing a one shot stop. Hatcher Ratings of 30 to 49 raise a one shot stop to approximately a 50% chance. Ratings of 50 or higher produce a one shot stop about 90% of the time.
Handgun Cartridge Type ..................... Hatcher Rating
.45 ACP full metal jacket 230 grain .......... 49.1
.45 ACP jacketed hollow point 230 grain ...... 60.7
.44 Magnum full metal jacket 240 grain ....... 92.3
*.44 Magnum lead wad cutter 240 grain ......... 136.8
.44 Special full metal jacket 240 grain ...... 51.6
*.44 Special lead wad cutter 240 grain ............. 76.5
.41 Magnum full metal jacket 230 grain ............. 54
*.41 Magnum lead wad cutter 230 grain .............. 80
10 millimeter full metal jacket 180 grain .......... 50.3
10 millimeter jacketed hollow point 180 grain ..62.1
.40 S&W full metal jacket flat nose 180 grain ...... 53.4
.40 S&W jacketed hollow point 180 grain ....... 59.4
.38 Special full metal jacket 158 grain ...... 26.7
*.38 Special lead wad cutter 158 grain ............. 39.7
**.357 Magnum full metal jacket 158 grain ..... 32.7
**.357 Magnum lead wad cutter 158 grain ............ 48.5
.357 SIG full metal jacket 147 grain ................ 36.6
.357 SIG jacketed hollow point 147 grain ..... 45.2
9 millimeter full metal jacket 147 grain ............ 32.3
9 millimeter jacketed hollow point 147 grain ... 39.9
.380 Auto jacketed hollow point 95 grain ..... 18.3
.32 Auto jacketed hollow point 71 grain ...... 11.1
.25 Auto jacketed hollow point 50 grain ...... 3.7
.22 Long Rifle jacketed hollow point 40 grain ... 4.2
* Jacketed hollow points will have the same rating as wad cutter bullets if the bullet hollow tip is greater than 1/2 of the caliber of the bullet.
* .357 Magnum ratings are taken from a firearm with a 3 inch barrel. Longer barrels will raise the rating of the round.
Kinda strange to see Harpseal's posts here. He was a good guy.
I found this thread by accident today after doing a Yahoo search for stopping power / wound ballisics.
Just discovered recently that I shoot 158 gr. .357 mag rounds more accurately than I shoot the 125 gr. variety (out of my Ruger GP-100, 4"), and I wanted to see if there was any data on their relative effectiveness in self-defense applications (in HP design). From what I've read so far, there seems to be no consenus.
Assuming identical accuracy, of course.
Glaser rounds are not good for self defense purposes. Glaser rounds expand very quickly and cause shallow wounds. Shallow wounds equal no vital organ damage. No vital organ damage equals you can guess.
Get the heaviest round possible in grains that are hollowpoints for all your handguns. I would not however take over 135 grain bullets for your 9 x 19 handgun. The 135 grain are more effective than the 147 grain. Navy SEALs were using 147 grain in sound suppressed submachine guns for less sound signature. 135 grain have more powder behind the round I believe than the 147 grain.
About all U.S. forces prefer the 1911 .45 handgun over the Beretta 9 x 19. There was a rally to dump the 9 x 19 and go back to the .45 ACP because .45 ACP has much more stopping power. 230 grain bullet versus 135 grain bullet. I think they didn't do it because our N.A.T.O. allies use handguns with the 9 x 19 round.
IMHO the main difference in stopping power between modern pistol cartridges is the user. The 9mm ranks a little lower because of all the poorly trained shots using it.
Also the Special Forces and others are using the 45 today.
Here's a link below you can read about stopping power of pistol cartridges:
That was Glaser Blue Glaser Silver penetrates more deeply and has been known to penetrate car windows and then disable or kill the target. Also MagSafe is an order of magnitude more effective than either of the Glasers and all prefrangibles are not equal!
Plus there is not any body of sufficient studies on the new round known as RBCD which my buddy in SpecOps swears by. RBCD Picture a 45ACP round screaming along at 2000 fps! I understand that there are currently studies underway on these rounds. I just have to believe that we've not reached peak development in ammo technology.
We can agree to disagree on "stopping" power of handguns but I say if a modern hot 9mm hollowpoint to the chest won't stop a gunfight a 45 wouldn't either. Now with ball ammo BOTH are shitty stoppers but the 45 has a definite edge. If I had to carry a handgun using only ball ammo it would be a 45.
BTW the Nato 124 gr load is right next to a duplicate load to the 125 grain 357 load. I know everyone here is big bore happy but even most of them will admit the 357 WILL stop a gunfight fast. As you know there are 4 load standards for the 9mm Saami, +P, +P+, and Nato. The Nato load is a 124 grain bullet at 1350 fps. It is also loaded to 42,000 PSI if I remember correctly. No American Manufacturer will load to that pressure. The top pressure loaded in the USA is +P+ which is plenty hot and will get the bullet out plenty fast enough. If the 9mm was available with Nato pressure loadings and a modern hollowpoint it would be my personal favorite. As it is I just carry the Corbon 115 gr but I feel real good about that round doing its part if I do mine.
A word of advice about hot powder +P loads in your 9 x 19 handgun: some handguns are not built for +P loads (consult your user's manual for your handgun).
With handgun loads your hollowpoint will not expand about 50% of the time. This is what they have found in numerous shootings where handguns have been used as handgun bullet velocites are so low.
Go to the website below and read the information there for more information on handgun stopping power.
Magsafe is a proven one shot stopper from the 9mm. I can't imagine what it would do in a .357 or a .45 ACP.
Second as far as expansion goes what you say is true. That is why every one of my posts specifies a MODERN +P or +P+ hollow point. The modern bullets do expand reliably even when fired through multiple layers of denim or leather.
Third as far as wounding characteristics go, it is all fine and good that he can write a scholarly article. Fackler also does a good job of running his mouth and produces articles and equations that show that a 45 ball round is more effective than a modern 9mm hollowpoint. (For that matter his equations have shown that 124 or 147 gr 9mm Nato ball are both much more effective than a modern 115gr 9mm hollow point) Both are manifestly bull$#!T.
If you want real wounding characteristics go to the actual shootings. The actual shootings show a different reality.
The modern 230 gr 45 hollow point is an excellent round but it is only slightly more effective than a modern 9mm hollow point in ACTUAL shootings. The actual shootings are what counts.
You can post these articles until you are blue in the face. I love Jeff Cooper more than the next guy and his opinions were correct WHEN he formed them. Now they are patently WRONG. Technology has marched on and is producing more effective rounds every year. BTW the MODERN 45 rounds are looking more and more like 9mm in their loadings (though I would carry the 230 if I carried my 45).
Amend Fackler to say Hatcher
In the 40S&W (again when not using MagSafe) I prefer the 165gr or 135 gr Hydra-Shok or the 165 gr Speer Gold Dot. At the ned of June, my wife and I will be driving out to Texas from our home in Miami, FL to pick up a Newfoundland pup (an adoption, lol). I'll be carrying my Glock M27 40S&W. For concealabilty and comfort, I'll have the short 9rd mag in the gun stoked with MagSafe. My backups will be Hi-Cap M22 or M23 mags with the A & G grip extenders so as to provide a seamless grip A & G
I figure that I'll be capable of launching 72 rounds before I even have to worry about topping off mags (wife's job) from the two 50rd boxes of backup ammo. Thanks be to Governor Jeb Bush for all the reciprocity agreements that will allow me to be "legal" for the entire trip.
What I do know is our troops would much rather carry .45 ACP handguns rather than the M-9. Many police departments have taken the .40 S&W over the 9 x 19.
You will never convince me that a 9 x 19 handgun is more effective in stopping power than a .40 S&W or a .45 ACP handgun.
Granted there are a few advantages to the 9 x 19 cartridge. You can generally get a smaller more concealable handgun for carry and ammo is quite common. Carry what you want though. In the end it's your preference.
We can agree on one thing nobody wants to carry a full size Baretta M-9, it is a clunky POS. If my choice was a 1911 or that I would be carrying a 1911 especially since I would be using ball ammo. As far as that is concerned I would lose the pistol and carry a few more 30 round mags if I was in the military.
For myself, the smoothest shooting and most accurate without a brace is the 454 Super Redhawk shooting the 45 long colt round. I also own the H&K USP in the 45 Cal and it is super accurate for a short barrel 45 automatic. Takes a smooth trigger pull to keep it on target though.
Hi Squantos. Why stainless? Isn't that really shiny in the daylight? It's humorous how everybody has their own opinions on so many aspects of firearms. Really keeps everything interesting. Take care.
Thanks for the info
If i could presume to add to your advice - practice, practice, practice - there IS NO substitute.
Many years later I shot a perp in a store hold up with a 44 mag. That was not very pretty either but it stopped him. He had killed the clerk, a friend of mine for $25 and an arm load of smokes.
Now all that said I am a firm believer in shot placement with any shot. Of course you don't always get that option.
The theoretical stopping power rises in inverse proportion to the ability of the average, minimally trained shooter to hit the target.
Four hits with a .22 are better than four misses with a .44.
Soldiers, marines, and policemen are not representative of the general population.
First, they are trained. Secondly, they practice with their weapons. Third, they are stronger, younger, and more coordinated than average. Fourth, they are indoctrinated with concepts of duty, honor, country, and mission.
And so on...
First, they are trained. Secondly, they practice with their weapons. Third, they are stronger, younger, and more coordinated than average. Fourth, they are indoctrinated with concepts of duty, honor, country, and mission.
And so on...
Rule of thumb:
One to the head, two to the chest.
That said, I do not trust a 9mm auto as much as I trust a 1911 .45.
If push comes to shove, give me the .45.
For about the same amount of money and a lot more stopping power why not go with a .45 ACP such as a Springfield XD 45 or maybe a Glock Model 21? You don't want to have to depend on a smaller piece of lead when it really counts. Not only does the .45 make bigger holes, it also hits like Mark McGuire with a baseball bat. It's hard for the bad guy to shoot back even if he's not quite out yet when he's been knocked backwards and is completely dissoriented by the impact. If you hit him in the torso he's most likely going to be knocked completely of his feet by the .45. Smaller faster rounds can go right through and not do a whole lot of immediate dammage. Even though he might be dead he might not know it yet with the smaller faster round.
For about the same amount of money and a lot more stopping power why not go with a .45 ACP such as a Springfield XD 45 or maybe a Glock Model 21? You don't want to have to depend on a smaller piece of lead when it really counts. Not only does the .45 make bigger holes, it also hits like Mark McGuire with a baseball bat. It's hard for the bad guy to shoot back even if he's not quite out yet when he's been knocked backwards and is completely dissoriented by the impact. If you hit him in the torso he's most likely going to be knocked completely of his feet by the .45. Smaller faster rounds can go right through and not do a whole lot of immediate dammage. Even though he might be dead he might not know it yet with the smaller faster round. Of course none of this matters if you can't shoot and it would probably be good to shoot first.
Will .44 specials work in a .44 magnum?
Yes. Ditto .38 Special in .357 mag.
I don't know where you ever got your, "training", but you NEVER dry-fire ANY weapon.
NOW you're using your head.
You ever shot a human-bein with a .40 caliber or larger?
I carry a Taurus PT1140 as a conceal carry during the summer and a Glock Model 22, .40 Caliber during the cooler seasons (Jackets and shoulder holster or side holster) and transfer my Taurus to the back-up position.
You want to play ganes carrying anything less than a .40 caliber, then write your obituary now so it looks good and sounds cool in the newspaper.
Now THIS is an excellent choice! This man is serious about staying alive!
A .40 caliber will stop even the worst of intentions. I couldn't agree more.
Just came across this thread in search about 9mms vs. .380 and thought it would be fun to wake it up.
For reference James Brady was shot with a .22 caliber.
As was Robert Kennedy
Rates as something you won't be carrying;) Above the 44 Mag by about two times; but even that gun, unless you're Dirty Harry, will not be something anyone will want to carry around - outside of using it as a 'short rifle' for hunting!
Beware, possible flame war.... That 454 300 grainer @1600 fps carries about 1800 fpe. It also may as well be a single shot - follow up shots with those BIG boys is problematic, especially trying to hit anything stationary, let alone moving. Even if you are shooting a bear at close range, hopefully you have a backup weapons guy or a backup plan!
By contrast, my 10mm w/180 SGDHP, out of a 3.8" Glock barrel, hits 1250 fps w/625 fpe. Difference being, I can have four empty cases in the air at the same time, on target @10 yds, That's 720 cumulative grains of 'bonded' bullets bringing 2500 cumulative foot pounds of energy with them! That same combination, btw, has accounted for at least one boar hog @30 yds (two shots) and one coyote (one shot) @110 yds, verified by a range finder.
Said all that to say, shoot what you shoot best, and NEVER expect the bad guy to STOP with one shot! That Boston clown soaked up eight (8) 40 caliber rounds (police shooters) and failed to expire before his brother ran him over with a car!!
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Mr. Speaker, once again it is my pleasure to appear before a full House to speak to Bill C-5. I notice my friend, the hon. member for Prince Albert, who knew I was speaking, decided to listen to my speech today, and I thank him for that.
First, I want to zero in on Bill C-5, speak a little about it and try to put it the context of what we are dealing with when we look at energy.
In an overview of Bill C-5, the Conservative government is taking what some would say a cavalier toward nuclear safety, and this recklessness is being supported by the other two opposition parties.
The bill will shortchange ordinary Canadians who get sick and die from a nuclear accident, or may lose all they own because of contamination or lose a family member who dies from cancer or radiation sickness.
The $650 million cap on compensation is not sufficient. The United States has a limit of $10 billion. Germany has an unlimited amount. Many countries are moving toward unlimited amounts. No private insurance is available, and it has been estimated that a nuclear accident would cost billions of dollars in damage, personal injury and death.
Let us look at nuclear safety. Despite assurances from the nuclear industry, Chernobyl, Three Mile Island and Windscale all show that the potential for a nuclear accident is real. Later on, if I have some time, I will once again give an account of some of the accidents that have happened in this industry.
The safety of nuclear installations must be paramount. We have already seen the government willing to put the lives and property of Canadians at risk to keep unsafe nuclear reactors running.
The nuclear industry is not really a green choice, as opposed to what some people might want us to believe. Nuclear waste remains deadly for thousands of years.
A few weeks ago I gave a brief statement on depleted uranium and the effects it had on those who used weapons containing depleted uranium, not only the soldiers of those armies who use these weapons, but civilian populations in countries such as Iraq.
Canada exports uranium to the United States with supposed assurances that it will never be used for weapons. However, experts say that some of it actually creeps into depleted uranium weapons, which then endangers the lives of people in those areas.
The last time I spoke with regard to depleted uranium, I mentioned a film which graphically illustrated the damaging effects. I have asked the government to ensure that we become a leader in banning and abolishing all the depleted uranium weapons in the world.
A person exposed to a used nuclear fuel bundle will be dead within an hour. There is no long term storage solution that has been found for the waste. The processing of fuel and waste has resulted in widespread contamination requiring expensive cleanups, and I cite the example of Fort Hope, Ontario and Rayrock Mine in the Northwest Territories.
Before moving on, I will mention that some people on this continent and in the world are tracking nuclear power reactors and the effects they have on surrounding populations. It would be very wise for our government to explore the possibility of doing a comprehensive study, at least in our country, and perhaps coordinating it with our neighbours to the south, to see what effects there are on the health of people who live in the surrounding areas of nuclear reactors.
Approximately a month ago I met with Dr. Leuren Moret from the United States. She has been quite heavily involved in the nuclear industry and is one of the leaders in the world exposing the danger of depleted uranium. She has been coordinating and looking at studies that link the effects on health with nuclear reactors. In addition to cancer, there is some evidence pointing to the correlation between high rates of diabetes and the proximity to nuclear reactors. Whether this is in fact the case, whether this is science, I am not sure, but these concerns warrant an investigation.
Our country should take the lead on this and say that we will challenge the world to investigate the fact that some people may suffer and die from the effects of living too close to nuclear reactors. As we move on in this debate, this is one of the things at which we could look.
The answer is not in building more nuclear reactors. In the budget the government has been investing in nuclear energy. It seems there is quite a lot of money for nuclear energy, but very little for green alternatives, such as solar power, wind power, wave generation, geothermal and all kinds of things that truly are green clean sources of energy, which have very little impact and leave a much smaller footprint on our planet. The government should be supporting more of these sources of energy in our country.
If the passage of the bill allows the expansion of nuclear power in our country, it will be a big step backward for us in our quest to have a greener and cleaner energy source in many ways. We need to ensure that it not only does not create greenhouse gases, which it does not in that respect, but we need to look at if for other things, such as the waste, the mining that takes place and the tragedy, human and otherwise, to which I just alluded, that it could inflict if there were to be an accident.
It is not the green source of energy we should invest in so heavily. We should be thinking of much cleaner greener ways to go. I will outline a few points from our NDP plan for the environment in a few minutes.
Bill C-5 limits the total liability of a nuclear operator to $650 million, which is the bottom of the international average. This is not enough.
Before outlining some of the tragic instances of nuclear accidents that have happened, it is important for us to realize there is another way of conserving energy and making our planet much more conducive to the environment. One way is what our party has proposed, and that is a cap and trade system. This is a mechanism at the heart of the Kyoto protocol. In fact, both candidates for the president of the United States have embraced cap and trade, making it a key tool in the continental fight against climate change. Cap and trade has already been tested in Europe and the NDP's plan builds on the lessons learned there.
My colleague, the hon. member for Outremont. was at an OECD conference in Europe. He said that the Europeans were embracing cap and trade as the way to conserve energy and fight climate change. They were not holding on to the fallacy of trying to put a tax on carbon so ordinary people would suffer, as my colleague from Winnipeg Centre pointed out.
When we called on other parties to reject the Conservative's dead on arrival clean air act and work together to build better legislation, the resulting legislation was deemed a breakthrough bill by environmental groups. The centrepiece of the bill was a carbon pricing regime. However, that is not enough. In addition to this method, which works, we need to create jobs in the green environment sector.
We would propose a green collar jobs fund be established that would allocate $1 billion per year to train workers, displaced workers and new entrants to the job market, so they could be provided with the skills that would be necessary to power Canada into the new energy economy.
The green collar jobs fund would be used to leverage training apprenticeships and investment partnerships from provincial and territorial governments, from first nations, Métis and Inuit communities, and from the private sector. For my hon. Conservative friends I repeat, from the private sector.
High skills training would be needed for such areas as installing and maintaining energy efficient and renewable energy technology for alternative cars and fuels, manufacturing parts for wind turbines and other new energy technologies, and energy efficiency auditing expertise.
It is a shame that a Canadian solar power private enterprise has to go to Germany to set up business because there is not enough incentive available in our country. Parallel to this, tax breaks are being given to the big oil companies that are reaping billions of dollars in profits. Something in this equation is not right.
At the same time, as we see with this bill, we are limiting the amount of liability in a nuclear accident. As my hon. colleague who spoke before said, there is something wrong in this equation.
In the province of British Columbia, where I come from, we had BC Hydro in control of our public water and our power system. The current government in British Columbia is slowly dismantling the public trust of our waters and our energy and creating what it calls public-private companies to damn the creeks, create energy and sell it on the open market.
I want to emphasize the importance for senior levels of government to take the lead and the initiative. The time is gone when we could just sit back and say that we would let the market take over and let private enterprise run our energy system. It is up to each and every one of us to--
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The Speaker Peter Milliken
I hesitate to interrupt the hon. member for British Columbia Southern Interior, but it is time to move on to statements by members. I assure him he will have seven and a half minutes remaining in the time allotted for his remarks when debate on this subject is resumed.
Statements by members. The hon. member for Fleetwood—Port Kells.
Carbon Tax Proposal
Statements By Members
2 p.m.
Nina Grewal Fleetwood—Port Kells, BC
Mr. Speaker, earlier this morning the Liberal leader revealed the details of his carbon tax on everything.
Besides their show of solidarity, many Liberal MPs are on record opposing a carbon tax. The member for Wascana previously said, "A carbon tax is not a part of our planning or our thinking". The member for Kings—Hants said, "I am strongly against energy taxes". The member for Vaughan said, "It is certainly not an option for me". Only a few short months ago, the member for Ottawa South insisted his leader opposed a carbon tax. He said, "Our leader's position on carbon tax remains the same. He is not in favour of a carbon tax at this time". The Liberal leader himself said, "There will be no carbon tax".
Why did the Liberal leader and his followers mislead Canadians? Why do they want to bother seniors, fixed income Canadians, struggling small business owners, air travellers and all Canadians with a massive carbon tax on everything?
Aboriginal Affairs
Statements By Members
2 p.m.
Anita Neville Winnipeg South Centre, MB
Mr. Speaker, this Saturday Canada will celebrate National Aboriginal Day.
National Aboriginal Day was first proclaimed by a Liberal government 12 years ago in recognition of the contributions first nations, Métis and Inuit have made to Canada.
It is important to note that last week's apology to residential school survivors was made possible by many. They include: residential school survivor Assembly of First Nations National Chief Phil Fontaine; Willie Blackwater and other survivors like him who have the courage to speak out and pursue justice; former first nations member of Parliament Gary Merasty, whose motion calling on the government to apologize to survivors was unanimously adopted by members of Parliament in May 2007; my colleagues from LaSalle—Émard, Fredericton and Mount Royal; and former deputy prime minister Anne McLellan.
Their courage, commitment and dedication in seeing this apology through to fruition is something of which all Canadians should be proud.
On National Aboriginal Day we will celebrate these Canadians and thank them for their perseverance and their resolve.
Drummond Association for the Disabled
Statements By Members
2 p.m.
Pauline Picard Drummond, QC
Mr. Speaker, in 1986, people with reduced mobility wanted to appear before the Drummondville city council to oppose a development project, but they had to turn back, because city hall was not accessible for them. This turn of events led to the creation of the Association des personnes handicapées de Drummond 20 years ago.
To mark this anniversary, the association is launching its website "Drummond accessible", which lists some 3,000 businesses, buildings and public areas in Drummondville, and identifies each location's level of accessibility and any specific problems that might be encountered. Each location has been visited and the facilities assessed, providing an opportunity to speak directly with business owners about accessibility.
I would like to congratulate Daniel Mailhot, the association's director, as well as everyone who works to integrate persons with disabilities into all of society's spheres of activity.
Statements By Members
2 p.m.
Chris Charlton Hamilton Mountain, ON
Mr. Speaker, Statistics Canada says an estimated 4.1 million Canadians aged 12 or older are without a family doctor. Almost 40,000 of them are in Hamilton.
Amazingly, Hamilton is not considered an underserviced area because McMaster University has a medical school. Incredibly, the provincial Liberals are using taxpayer dollars to pay graduates to move away from Hamilton.
This chronic shortage of doctors and nurses puts the health of seniors and hard-working families at risk.
The federal government has to step up to the plate and it has to do it now. After 13 years of Liberal neglect and cutbacks, both wait times and doctor shortages exploded.
Despite the Conservatives' election promise of a wait times guarantee, the shortage of health care professionals is continuing to worsen under the Conservative government. Ontarians probably will not be surprised by this. After all, the federal health minister was mentored by his former boss, Ontario premier Mike Harris, who fired hundreds of nurses and likened the profession to outdated hula hoops.
We need a serious federal contribution to recruit and retain health care professionals and to promote careers in the health sciences.
The health and well-being of hard-working families in Hamilton and right across Canada depend on it.
Carbon Tax Proposal
Statements By Members
2 p.m.
Joy Smith Kildonan—St. Paul, MB
Mr. Speaker, today the Liberal leader is desperately trying to spin that his regressive carbon tax plan would be revenue neutral. This is completely unbelievable.
Environmentalists do not believe his tax trick would be revenue neutral. David Coon, policy director of the Conservation Council of New Brunswick, said, "This is not an emissions reducing tax. It's a revenue generating tax to finance objectives that are definitely not of the environmental kind".
The Canadian Federation of Independent Business said, "We do not believe that carbon taxes can be truly revenue neutral. ...it will certainly not be revenue neutral for consumers."
The Atlantic Provinces Trucking Association executive director said, "Transportation costs would rise with increased fuel costs as a result of carbon taxes, prices of consumer goods and food would rise.... The bottom line is that adding taxes only adds to transportation costs which add to increased costs for consumers".
Don Drummond, chief economist for the TD Bank, said after analyzing the plan, "It's never going to be revenue neutral".
When will the leader--
Carbon Tax Proposal
Statements By Members
2:05 p.m.
The Speaker Peter Milliken
The hon. member for Fredericton.
Statements By Members
2:05 p.m.
Andy Scott Fredericton, NB
Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to rise today to pay tribute to the bravery of three heroes from my riding: Evan Green, Nick Lannigan and Ryan Atwin.
Concerned after spotting smoke coming from the back of a building, these three teenagers rescued a 60-year-old gentleman after seeing him lie helplessly on the floor through a window. Their heroism continued when they alerted sleeping tenants of the danger and assisted in the evacuation of the building.
These three young men were recently honoured as heroes and given life-saving awards at the St. John Ambulance's annual awards ceremony.
I invite my fellow members to join with me in thanking these fine young citizens for their courage and inspiring their community.
Carbon Tax Proposal
Statements By Members
2:05 p.m.
Bruce Stanton Simcoe North, ON
Mr. Speaker, Canadians will not be tricked by the Liberals' plan to tax an extra $15 billion with their new carbon tax and they surely will not be tricked by the Liberals' claim that this is going to somehow be revenue neutral. History is littered with attempts by previous governments to bring in taxes cloaking them as revenue neutral.
Canadians know better. They have seen this movie before. They remember the dawn of the gun registry and the GST. Canadians will not be tricked. Even the leader himself said this carbon tax was simply bad policy.
This plan for a carbon tax just reconfirms what we already knew about the Liberals. They never met a tax they did not like. They never met a tax they would not hike.
Sébastien Audy Summits Everest
Statements By Members
2:05 p.m.
Robert Bouchard Chicoutimi—Le Fjord, QC
Mr. Speaker, the people of my region are known for their eagerness to take up a challenge. Last month, a resident of Saguenay—Lac-Saint-Jean proved it in spades.
Today, I am proud to congratulate Sébastien Audy, the first person from the Saguenay to make it to the roof of the world. Together with François-Guy Thivierge and two sherpas, he reached the summit at 5:55 a.m. on May 22, 2008, a feat that so many people around the world want to accomplish. Support from our community, Deloitte, the Chicoutimi CEGEP, and Promotion Saguenay helped make his adventure possible.
I congratulate Sébastien on rising to this physical and mental challenge. At 29, he is the pride not only of his parents, Denis Audy and Réjane Roy, but of everyone in the riding of Chicoutimi—Le Fjord and the entire Saguenay—Lac-Saint-Jean region.
Bravo, Sébastien.
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Statements By Members
2:05 p.m.
Lee Richardson Calgary Centre, AB
Mr. Speaker, the Liberal leader promised he would not bring in a carbon tax. This is another broken promise. We now have a Liberal tax promise to pay for Liberal spending promises.
It is obvious to all Canadians that a carbon tax will increase the cost of gasoline, increase the cost of home heating fuels, increase the cost of electricity, and increase the cost of transporting goods and services to all Canadians. It is also obvious that the Liberal carbon tax is not revenue neutral and is not a tax shift.
Politicians impose taxes and raise taxes to raise money. The Liberal carbon tax, despite the green rhetoric, is just a way for Canadians to pay for $60 billion of Liberal spending promises. With soaring energy prices, Canadians want real solutions, not massive tax increases and phony promises wrapped in green rhetoric.
Canadians will not be fooled by this outrageous Liberal promise and will not fall for this crock of green shift.
Bashir Makhtal
Statements By Members
2:05 p.m.
Judy Sgro York West, ON
Mr. Speaker, Bashir Makhtal is a Canadian businessman who has been in an Ethiopian prison for more than a year. Mr. Makhtal was caught up in the violence in Somalia and took Ottawa's advice and went to Kenya. There he was arrested and, in spite of his Canadian passport, deported to Ethiopia.
Why does the minority Conservative government continue to turn its back on Canadians who find themselves in terrible circumstances while travelling abroad?
While I have the government's attention, I would like to know why it has not stepped up and taken on a leadership role to help end the violence in Somalia. When will the Conservatives start to take concrete steps toward a resolution to the conflict in Somalia, once and for all?
Carbon Tax Proposal
Statements By Members
2:10 p.m.
Ron Cannan Kelowna—Lake Country, BC
Mr. Speaker, the president of the B.C. Cattlemen's Association is saying a carbon tax in B.C. will cost a 200 head cow-calf operator an additional $1,300 in expenses every year, far from revenue neutral.
Earlier today the Leader of the Opposition announced that in order to pay for his reckless spending promises he is proposing a carbon tax on everything. Today, the Liberal leader confirmed that his carbon tax trick is going to raise the cost of everything that my farmers purchase: fuel costs, up; feed costs, up; fertilizer costs, up; transportation costs, up. How much? I do not know. Maybe $3,000 a year, maybe $5,000, maybe even $10,000 a year.
B.C. farmers agree and Canadian farmers agree a hike in taxes for essential expenses is not revenue neutral. The Liberals' carbon tax trick is bad for Canadian agriculture.
War Resisters
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June 19th, 2008 / 2:10 p.m.
Peggy Nash Parkdale—High Park, ON
Mr. Speaker, Corey Glass, a U.S. war resister, and a constituent of my riding of Parkdale--High Park, faces deportation from Canada on July 10.
At age 19, Corey joined the Indiana National Guard. He was told that he would only be in combat if the U.S. were invaded. He signed up to defend people and to do humanitarian work. Instead, in 2005, he was shipped off to fight in the Iraq war, a war based on false premise, false intelligence, and without UN approval or that of major allies like Canada.
Most Canadians were opposed to this illegal war and accordingly Canada did not support the invasion. Countless Americans such as Corey feel the same. Many of them and their families have made enormous personal sacrifices to withdraw their military participation. They came to Canada to seek refuge and to seek the protection of a government whose House of Commons has demanded that the war resisters and their families be allowed to stay in Canada.
In the U.S. they will face hardship and prosecution simply for doing what our whole country has done: refusing to participate in this war. It is the highest form of hypocrisy for this government to keep Canadians out of--


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David Neeleman
Like Richard Branson, who arrived late and left early when I interviewed him three years ago, JetBlue founder David Neeleman seems to be a man in a hurry. He showed up 20 minutes after the appointed time for our talk, exchanged brief hellos and ducked into his office to check e-mail. Then, about 15 minutes into what was to be an hour-long interview, I asked about the extent of his involvement with JetSuite, a private jet company he co-owns. "I actually have a phone conference with the board in 16 minutes," he said. Then he laughed-something he does easily and often-while I glanced anxiously at my long list of remaining questions.
I wrapped up quickly and photographer Bill Bernstein began shooting pictures of Neeleman in his office. Three minutes later, he smiled faintly and asked, "Are we almost done? Are we winding down?"
I'd read that Neeleman is obsessed with watches and buys them four at a time so he'll always have one in case several break or get lost. That seemed to fit his personality. But he told me he used his watch mainly just as a calculator and-before he got a BlackBerry-as a data bank. And I noticed that the clock on his desk wasn't working and that the one on his wall hadn't been reset after Daylight Savings Time, which had ended weeks earlier. Neeleman, it seems, doesn't really need a clock. He runs on Neeleman time.
And a lot happens on Neeleman time. He cofounded Morris Air, a low-fare charter airline, when he was still in his mid-20s and has since played key roles at several other airlines and related companies, most notably JetBlue, which he started. He served as its CEO until May 2007, when the board of directors replaced him. The following March, he announced plans to launch Azul Brazilian Airlines, a domestic carrier that he says is already profitable. And last year, he led a group that bought JetSuite, which operates in the western U.S.
These days, the 51-year-old father of nine divides his working time between his native Brazil, where he spends about 10 days a month, and a small office above a bank near his New Canaan, Conn. home. Like Neeleman, who wears jeans to work, the office is not dressed to impress. Computer-printer cartridges and an unhung picture occupy space in the reception area, and the sparse furnishings are the sort you might find at Staples or Office Depot. But that's no surprise. This is clearly a man who'd rather be dreaming up deals than dwelling on décor.
What led you to purchase JetSuite?
Alex Wilcox, the CEO, was at JetBlue and we've always stayed in touch. And my dear friends run Embraer [which supplies JetSuite's Phenom 100s], so that was an element. And I've owned a [jet] share and what [Alex] said to me kind of resonated: Most trips are within a thousand miles and carry four people or less. So why do it with a bigger airplane that has higher costs and more seats if you're not going to fill them?
When I heard the Phenom burns a hundred gallons an hour, [requires] less maintenance, less this and that, and the planes are very inexpensive from a capital perspective, it made a lot of sense to me. So with a group that was an investor in Azul, we bought the controlling interest in the company. We're offering a really good product at a really reasonable price. It's kind of like an Azul and JetBlue of the corporate jet market.
When you bought JetSuite, you said, "The private jet market has been broken for some time, loaded with unnecessary expense, poor asset utilization and low return on capital, despite the exorbitant costs to its users. I believe JetSuite will be able to deploy its uniform fleet efficiently, following some of the basic rules of low-cost carriers, to deliver the availability and low price points that are going to open the industry to large numbers of new corporations, resorts and individuals." What did you have in mind when you talked about "following some of the basic rules of low-cost carriers"?
Just having low operating costs. There's not much you can do if you've paid $10 million for an airplane that's flying two hours a day. I'd rather pay a lot less than that for an airplane that flies two hours a day. You're never going to get utilization where you would at, say, a JetBlue but as long as you've got planes sitting on the ground, you might as well do it with lower capital costs. We took the sweet spot of the market and said, "How can we do the sweet spot more efficiently?" And it starts with having a plane that burns 100 gallons an hour rather than, say, 250.
At JetBlue, a lot of your ticket sales were online, the pilots had laptops and so on. Do business jet operators need to implement more technology to increase efficiency?
The biggest bane of the business jet market is unsold legs. So the ability to sell those legs by having them posted on the Internet [is important] and I think there's a lot more of that going on today. But again, if you're going to have a lot of empty legs, you might as well do it with a 100-gallon-an-hour airplane.
The airlines have been cutting back on frills and first class, which is driving more people to business aviation. Do they need to find ways to treat their high-end customers better?
Well, JetBlue doesn't have first class. We treated everyone the same. Maybe it's funny I'm in the JetSuite market because it's so weird to me that on a plane with 150 seats, you give 12 people a great ride and you stick it to 138-squish them all back there because of 12 people. There's something about that that just feels wrong.
But doesn't JetSuite give a different class of service to a handful of people who can afford it? They're just not on the same airplane with economy-class passengers.
Yeah. No, I mean JetSuite's a great product. We flew a Phenom around Brazil a couple of weeks ago. We did something we could never have done if we hadn't had a plane. There's a bunch of big cities in Brazil that are four or five hours from airports. So we used a JetSuite Phenom and visited six cities in two days, met with mayors, met with all these people. That would have taken us a week, two weeks [traveling on an airliner].
At Azul, you call all your employees "crewmembers." What point are you trying to make?
I want every person who works in our company to say it's the best job they've ever had. You can't treat someone like an employee and have them say it's the best job they've ever had. You have to treat them like they're part of a team that's creating something bigger than each of us individually. I thought "crewmember" was a good term. We're all crewmembers.
How do you take that approach beyond mere words?
How you select them, how you train them, how you treat them, what kind of benefits and pay you give them, what the management style is. They've got to feel like they want to come to work everyday. When you have news of the company, you tell them first. You don't tell the public first. You always try to make them feel that they're part of the huddle. And you have to have great managers and make sure they aren't using management by intimidation.
Besides calling employees "crewmembers," you make a distinction between "customers" and "passengers."
I want every customer to get off a plane and say, "Wow, that was a different experience. I want to fly with these guys again." Passengers don't act that way. Customers do. And I have to have people who love their jobs to have a customer that gets off a plane saying, "Wow." So those things go hand in hand.
Your approach sounds reminiscent of Richard Branson's.
Well, Richard doesn't have a hands-on management style. But yes, I think people who work for Virgin feel it's a special place to work.
Right before you were ousted from JetBlue, you had a PR disaster when New York had an ice storm and passengers were left sitting for hours in airplanes on the ground.
It's funny because Delta had as many planes as we did stranded on the runway for 10 hours. But people expect a lot more from JetBlue than from Delta. So we took the brunt of [the criticism].
What did you learn from the experience?
You have to have crewmembers that are ambassadors for your customers and you have to be flawless in your execution. And when you're not, you have to treat your customers in such a way that they may be more loyal with you having had a problem than if you had never had a problem. So everybody that was affected by that [ice storm] not only got a full refund but their next trip was on us. We gave away $40 million to apologize for the failings of our operation. Then we came out with a customer bill of rights. And [our customer-satisfaction ratings] bounced right back. So when things happen, you acknowledge you made a mistake and make it right with the customer.
You lost your job over this.
I'm not in charge of getting people off airplanes but ultimately I am responsible. But the COO and president at the time...those guys should have known better. It's ironic that some of them got promoted and I'm the one that got ousted. But that's OK because sometimes boards don't know everything. They're looking through a peephole.
I've heard that people tell you they wish you were back at JetBlue.
Yeah, oh, just constantly. Oh, my gosh. I get that every day.
Well, you know what happened at Apple, where Steve Jobs got ousted and then made a triumphant return. Could that happen with you at JetBlue?
I don't know. It's hard to go back and Azul's a great company. So I'm not even thinking about going back. Obviously the board would have to leave for me to do that, because while they may acknowledge privately that they made a mistake, publicly it's pretty tough to admit when egos are involved. I think the management team there is learning, but people are still yearning for the good old days.
So if a new board were to come in and ask you to return, would you do it?
I couldn't run both companies but I wouldn't mind having a bigger involvement in JetBlue than I have today, which is nothing other than just a shareholder. You know, being the founder and being someone who dreamt that whole thing up, it would be nice to be a bit more involved. We had a 10-year anniversary and I didn't get anything. People sent me stuff from the company but not officially. There was nothing, which is kind of ridiculous but that's OK.
"Azul" is Portuguese for blue. Why another "blue" name?
There's probably a little bit of a poke in the eye there-kind of like, "The blue lives on."
The airlines are a tough business. Why start another after JetBlue?
Well, I've done this three times. It's what I know. I've always made money at it, always been successful. I figured out a formula that works and Brazil really needed it. And I had this idealistic view of trying to make a difference. I've got 3,000 people in Brazil that work for us and love their jobs and we flew four million people this year and a lot of those people had never flown before.
You say you've got a formula for achieving success with an airline. What is it?
It's that combination of being the lowest-cost producer and having the best product, so people get onboard and go, "Wow, I paid this and I got this! I'm gonna tell 10 of my friends." So it's efficiency combined with some perks like leather seats, extra legroom and live television. It's being so efficient you can actually be a cost leader at the same time.
But profit margins on airlines are so slim that they're starting to charge for everything from bags to snacks. How do you become so efficient that you can combine perks with low prices?
You use technology to have fewer people per airplane. You turn your airplanes more quickly-keep them in the air. You buy new airplanes so you can fly them more hours in the day and they're more fuel-efficient. And you hire the best people and train them well so you need fewer of them.
You worked as a missionary in Brazil. How did that experience affect you?
When I was living there as an expatriate child and visited as a teenager, I ran with the influential people and the rich. Then I went back to Brazil and lived with the poor. And that contrast really annoyed me. It made me want to do something to make a difference for the lower classes and that's what we're doing-creating air travel for the bus fare.
What's your goal in life? What are you trying to accomplish?
To create a better life for as many people as I can. To change lives. I have ADD [attention deficit disorder, which was diagnosed when Neeleman was in his 30s]. I'm just a dreamer and a schemer.
I always try to do things a bit better.
I understand you have a $200,000 salary at Azul and no stock options.
I own 15 percent of the company. Why do I need stock options? I never took a stock option at JetBlue. It's better to leave those shares for people that don't have as much as I have.
I read that at JetBlue, you also didn't have your own parking spot and you donated your entire salary to a crewmember crisis fund, saying, "It seemed hoggish of me to have all this stuff when others didn't because every time I would get something someone else would have less." Yet then I read about your $14 million mansion in Connecticut.
It's my wife's mansion. I never would have built that, ever. I think she's repentant. It was a project for her and it kind of got out of hand. But we all felt funny moving in. That's why we want to sell it.
I'd wondered how you reconciled the mansion with your philosophy.
I don't.
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NAME: David Neeleman BIRTHDATE: Oct. 16, 1959 (in São Paulo) POSITION: Founder and CEO, Azul Brazilian Airlines. Board member and co-owner, JetSuite. PREVIOUS POSITIONS: Co-founder, executive vice president (1984-88) and president (1988-93), Morris Air. Executive Planning Committee member, Southwest Airlines, 1994. CEO, Open Skies (an airline reservation system company), 1995-98. Co-founder and board member, WestJet (Canada), 1996-99. Founder (2000), CEO (2000-07) and chairman (2000-08), JetBlue. EDUCATION: Attended University of Utah for three years.
PERSONAL: Lives in New Canaan, Conn. Married with nine children.
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She Should Have Been Caught and E A T E N !
Lucy evolved into us. Really, really (to quote "Shrek.")
Her species, Australopithecus afarensis, or something extremely close, changed over three million years to become Homo sapiens – the species that includes you and me.
So we should treat Lucy with respect…….
….but wait. There's a problem. It shouldn't have happened. Lucy and her whole species should have been gobbled up by a legion of voracious, bloodthirsty carnivores! She shouldn't have had any time to evolve at all.
Darwin Makes Sense (usually)
Evolution should be logical – when we have enough data. Textbooks used to say that Lucy evolved from an ancestor who was built like a chimp. But Lucy's knee and ankle and hip bones were NOT chimp-shaped. The design of Lucy's joints is very close to what we have – so we know that Lucy walked upright, on just her hind legs, with left and right knees close together.
Fine. Did leg evolution make Lucy better? Faster? That's what we'd expect. But it looks like evolution made Lucy s l o w e r ! Chimps run very fast and can change direction in an instant. These apes zip around on all fours, running on their knuckles. A modern human has great difficulty catching a running chimp – I know, I used to be a zoo-keeper in charge of three boisterous chimps.
Lucy couldn't match chimps in speed and maneuverability. Since she walked just on her hind legs, her arms were useless dead weight in running. Plus – she was very short in the legs. Her shins and thighs were far shorter than in modern humans. She was not nearly as fast as we are today.
Why would evolution make Lucy slower?
Lucy – Evolved for Holding Babies on the Open Plains?
The standard theory said that Lucy's upright posture was fit for moving across savannah, open grassland with scattered trees. She could walk for hours and use her hands to hold her babies or an armful of fruit or a big Pliocene salad or whatever. Meanwhile, her chimp ancestors stayed in the forest. Sounds good……except we have a huge problem. The savannahs were occupied by a whole host of predators who would love to eat Lucy and her kind.
In fact, Lucy was evolving during the worst possible time. The australopithecine clan evolved between 5.8 to 1.8 million years ago. This interval produced the scariest variety of big feline meat-eaters the world has ever seen. Here's what was out there, ready to catch Lucy and her kin.
Leopards are stealth felines who lived with Lucy. They had short, wide paws, flexible legs and body. That's a build excellent for climbing rocks, hiding in burrows, ascending trees – and sudden ambush! Body weights went from 50 lbs to 200 lbs.
Lions & Tigers
Lucy's neighbors included lion-like cats, huge predators up to 500 lbs, with massive paws that could swat down a water buffalo. Legs were longer, straighter than a leopard's and speed over level ground was higher. Because of the great weight, climbing was less agile than a leopard's.
Dagger-Tooth Saber Cats – Homotheres
Lucy's world was jam packed with saber-toothed cats. The biggest were the Dagger-Tooths, who were built like a cross between a cheetah and a leopard, with long legs, excellent for fast running with some climbing. Sizes ranged from up to 500 lbs. The jaws were like a rattlesnake's. They opened so wide that the upper fangs were exposed and ready for action. The upper fangs were long, wide blades with very sharp, saw-toothed edges. Homotheres slashed and stabbed so deeply they could kill an elephant.
Long, muscular necks let saber-cats swing their head down like a battle-ax.
How could Lucy avoid these deadly cats?
Imagine that you are Lucy. You're waking along the savannah, carrying a load of melons. Then, without warning…..WHAM! A leopard leaps on you, bites your neck, and you are leopard-kibbles. Or….you're resting on a rock when…..WHAM! A pride of lions jump you and tears you apart. Or….you're plucking figs from a fig tree when…a Dagger-Tooth jumps up from the tall grass. You try to run as fast as you can….but in ten seconds…WHAM! Zip-Zap! The cat slices you into bite-sized pieces.
Lucy Defended Herself With Spears?
An old theory says that Lucy's kind used spears and rocks for defense. But that notion doesn't work. We find no stone tools at all with Lucy's bones, not a spear point or a stone knife. How about a wooden spear? Chimps today make mini-spears from twigs and impale bugs and little furballs. Sure, Lucy might have picked up a branch and chewed the end to make a point.
But if Lucy poked a Dagger-Tooth in the butt with her spear, she'd only make him mad.
No, wooden spears aren't enough to drive away lions and leopard and saber-toothed cats.
Conclusion: Lucy and All Her Kind Should Have Been Massacred by The Big Cats.
We're left with a big problem. How did Lucy get away?
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Maria A. Rios, 27, of Fredonia was charged with second-degree harassment on Feb. 1.
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ELLINGTON – On Sunday around 6 p.m., Renee L. Paulisick, 38, of Kennedy, was operating a vehicle northbound on Waterboro Hille Road in Ellington when she lost control of her vehicle in the snow and slushy road surface. Police say she overcorrected and went off the east side of the road and the car overturned. Both Paulisick and her passenger, 15-year-old Katrina L. Paulisick, were transported to WCA Hospital by rescue units. The operator was reported uninjured but going to the hospital to be checked, and passenger complained of head and neck pain.
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