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Sade, Marquis de
Marquis de Sade 1740-1814
(Born Donatien Alphonse François, Comte de Sade) French novelist, short story writer, essayist, and dramatist.
For additional information on Sade's career, see Nineteenth-Century Literature Criticism, Volume 3.
The Marquis de Sade produced graphic celebrations of sexual violence, incest, torture, and murder during a period that encompassed the end of the ancien regime, the French Revolution, and the reign of Napoleon. His most notorious works are a series of novels in which wealthy, powerful "libertines" systematically rape, torture, and kill an assortment of victims—primarily women and adolescents of both sexes—while articulating elaborate philosophical justifications for this behavior. Rejecting the existence of a Supreme Being, Sade posits a lawless and destructive Nature as the only rational guide to behavior; sexual cruelty and the will to power, being natural human impulses, should be fostered rather than discouraged. His reputation inspired the nineteenth-century psychiatrist Richard von Krafft-Ebing to attach the author's name to the concept of sadism, sexual gratification through the infliction of pain on others.
Biographical Information
Born into a wealthy, titled family, Sade was educated in a Jesuit college, then served in the cavalry during the Seven Years' War. In 1763 his father arranged his marriage to Renee-Pelagie Cordier de Launay de Montreuil, daughter of a wealthy and politically powerful family. Shortly after the marriage, however, Sade was jailed on charges of criminal sexual conduct. Over the next fifteen years his increasingly notorious penchant for sexually abusing servants and prostitutes fueled a series of scandals, incarcerations, and escapes. In 1778 he was imprisoned at Vincennes under a lettre de cachet, an arbitrary decree of imprisonment obtained from the king by the Marquis's mother-in-law. Most of the rest of his life was spent in various prisons. Released in 1790 during the French Revolution, he served briefly as a judge but was imprisoned again in 1793 as a suspected enemy of the Revolution and narrowly escaped the guillotine before being freed the following year. In 1801 he was again arrested on charges of obscenity. Judged insane, he was confined in a succession of institutions until his death in the asylum at Charenton in 1814.
Major Works
Although he wrote and acted in amateur theatrical productions as early as 1765, Sade began writing prose fiction following his incarceration at Vincennes in 1778. While Sade employs many of the conventions of picaresque, gothic, and sentimental fiction, his novels are unique in the literature of their time in their rejection of any moral law and their explicit, encyclopedic detailing of violent sexual behavior. Les 120journées de Sodome, ou l'ecole du libertinage (The 120 Days of Sodom; or, The Romance of the School for Libertinage), begun in the Bastille in the early 1780s and never completed, proposes to set forth in novelistic form a catalog of all possible forms of libertine sexual behavior. Justine, ou les malheurs de la vertu (Justine; or, The Misfortunes of Virtue), the story of a virtuous young woman who undergoes horrific sexual tortures and is finally killed by a stroke of lightning, was also completed in the Bastille; an expanded version was published in 1797 as La nouvelle Justine (The New Justine), along with Juliette, ou les prosperites du vice (The Story of Juliette; or, Vice Amply Rewarded), the story of Justine's sister Juliette, who embraces vice and prospers at every turn. Laphilosophie dans le boudoir (Philosophy in the Bedroom) presents the initiation of a young woman into the philosophy and practice of libertinism. Sade's surviving work also includes a number of more conventional dramas and short stories, two historical novels, and an epistolary novel, Aline et Valcour. Much of his voluminous correspondence has also been preserved.
Critical Reception
While Sade's writings were not distributed publicly during the nineteenth century, they were privately circulated. In 1843 the French critic Charles Augustin Sainte-Beuve named Sade and Lord Byron as "the two greatest sources of inspiration" for contemporary writers, many of whom saw the Marquis as a pioneer of the dark side of human nature and as a martyr for freedom. Algernon Charles Swinburne, Paul Verlaine, Charles Baudelaire, William Blake, and Guillaume Apollinaire were among the writers influenced by Sade's life and work. In the twentieth century, the Surrealist movement found inspiration in Sade's iconoclastic use of eroticism and his defiant rejection of all restrictions on personal liberty. The latter half of the twentieth century has seen a proliferation of Sade criticism. Studies by such critics as Roland Barthes, Maurice Blanchot, Pierre Klossowski, and Georges Bataille focus on Sade's insights into the psychology of power and desire, and on relationships between his rhetorical practices and the desire for absolute personal sovereignty. Michel Foucault's perception of Sade's work as marking the "frontier" between Classical and modern thought has precipitated numerous analyses of the interrelationship between Sade's writings, his cultural and philosophical milieu, and the political, economic, and social upheavals of late eighteenth-century France. A number of critics have also examined the treatment of female characters in Sade's texts. Alice Laborde finds in his work an expose of his society's unfair treatment of women and a plea for sexual equality. Andrea Dworkin, on the other hand, uses her reading of Sade to support her contention that pornography functions as a means to degrade and subjugate women. Angela Carter argues that Sade's work is ultimately valuable because it explicitly depicts violent and oppressive attitudes that underlie conventional relations between men and women.
Principal Works
Justine, ou les malheurs de la vertu [Justine; or, The Misfortunes of Virtue, 1931; also published as Justine; or, Good Conduct Well Chastised, 1953] (novel) 1791
Aline et Valcour (novel) 1795
La philosophie dans le boudoir [The Bedroom Philosophers, 1953; also published as Philosophy in the Bedroom, 1965] (novel) 1795
Juliette, ou les prosperites du vice [The Story of Juliette; or, Vice Amply Rewarded, 1965] (novel) 1797
La nouvelle Justine [The New Justine, 1956] (novel) 1797
Les crimes de l'amour [The Crimes of Love, 1964; also published as The Crimes of Passion, 1965] (short stories) 1800
*Les 120 journées de Sodome, ou l'ecole du libertinage [The 120 Days of Sodom; or, The Romance of the School for Libertinage, 1954] (unfinished novel) 1904
**Dialogue entre un pretre et un moribund [Dialogue between a Priest and a Dying Man, 1927] (novel) 1926
*This work was written in 1785.
**This work was written in 1782.
Georges Bataille (essay date 1957)
SOURCE: "De Sade's Sovereign Man," in Eroticism, Death and Sensuality, City Lights Books, 1986, pp. 164-76.
[A French novelist, philosopher, and critic who died in 1962, Bataille received considerable critical attention in France for his theories of eroticism and mysticism. He was among the first critics to undertake a serious study of Sade's writing and philosophy. In this excerpt from a book first published in French in 1957, Bataille considers the sexual excesses depicted in Sade's works in terms of a quest for absolute personal sovereignty.]
The Marquis de Sade's system perfects as much as it criticises a certain way of bringing the individual in to the full exercise of all his potentialities above the heads of the goggling crowd.…
The events of de Sade's real life lead one to suspect an element of braggadocio in his insistence on sovereignty seen as a denial of the rights and feelings of others. But the boasting was essential if he was to work out a system completely free from human weakness. In his life de Sade took other people into account, but his conception of fulfilment worked over and over in his lonely cell led him to deny outright the claims of other people. The Bastille was a desert; his writing was the only outlet for his passions and in it he pushed back the limits of what was possible beyond the craziest dreams ever framed by man. These books distilled in prison have given us a true picture of a man for whom other people did not count at all.
De Sade's morality, says Maurice Blanchot [in Lautréamont et Sade, 1949]
is founded on absolute solitude as a first given fact. De Sade said over and over again in different ways that we are born alone, there are no links between one man and another. The only rule of conduct then is that I prefer those things which affect me pleasurably and set at nought the undesirable effects of my preferences on other people. The greatest suffering of others always counts for less than my own pleasure. What matter if I must purchase my most trivial satisfaction through a fantastic accumulation of wrongdoing? For my satisfaction gives me pleasure, it exists in myself, but the consequences of crime do not touch me, they are outside me.
Maurice Blanchot's analysis faithfully matches de Sade's basic thinking. This thinking is doubtless artificial. It fails to take into account the actual make-up of every real man, inconceivable if shorn of the links made by others with him and by him with others. The independence of one man has never ceased to be any more than a boundary to the interdependence of mankind, without which there would be no human life. This is of cardinal importance. But de Sade's doctrine is not so wide of the mark as all that. It may deny the reality on which life is based, yet we do experience moments of excess that stir us to the roots of our being and give us strength enough to allow free rein to our elemental nature. But if we were to deny those moments we should fail to understand our own nature.
De Sade's doctrine is nothing more nor less than the logical consequence of these moments that deny reason.
By definition, excess stands outside reason. Reason is bound up with work and the purposeful activity that incarnates its laws. But pleasure mocks at toil, and toil we have seen to be unfavourable to the pursuit of intense pleasure. If one calculates the ratio between energy consumed and the usefulness of the results, the pursuit of pleasure even if reckoned as useful is essentially extravagant; the more so in that usually pleasure has no end product, is thought of as an end in itself and is desired for its very extravagance. This is where de Sade comes in. He does not formulate the above principles, but he implies them by asserting that pleasure is more acute if it is criminal and the more abhorrent the crime the greater the pleasure. One can see how the excesses of pleasure lead to the denial of the rights of other people which is, as far as man is concerned, an excessive denial of the principle upon which his life is based.
In this de Sade was convinced that he had made a decisive discovery in the field of knowledge. If crime leads a man to the greatest sensual satisfactions, the fulfilment of the most powerful desires, what could be more important than to deny that solidarity which opposes crime and prevents the enjoyment of its fruits? I can picture this violent truth striking him in the loneliness of his prison. From that instant he ceased to have any truck with anything, even in himself, that might have invalidated his system. Had he not been in love himself, just like anyone else? When he had run off with his sister-in-law, had not that helped to get him locked up by arousing his mother-in-law's wrath so that she procured the fatal lettre de cachet? Latterly was he not to adopt political views based on concern for the welfare of the masses? Was he not horror-struck to see from his window, in the prison to which his opposition to the methods of the Terror had brought him, the guillotine at work? And finally did he not shed "tears of blood" over the loss of a manuscript [The 120 Days of Sodom] in which he had striven to reveal—to other men, observe—the truth of the insignificance of other people? He may have told himself that none the less the truth of sexual attraction is not fully apparent if consideration for other people paralyses its action. He refused to contemplate anything he could not experience in the interminable silence of his cell where only visions of an imaginary world bound him to life.…
De Sade's system is the ruinous form of eroticism. Moral isolation means that all the brakes are off; it shows what spending can really mean. The man who admits the value of other people necessarily imposes limits upon himself. Respect for others hinders him and prevents him from measuring the fullest extent of the only aspiration he has that does not bow to his desire to increase his moral and material resources. Blindness due to respect for others happens every day; in the ordinary way we make do with rapid incursions into the world of sexual truths and then openly give them the lie the rest of the time. Solidarity with everybody else prevents a man from having the sovereign attitude. The respect of man for man leads to a cycle of servitude that allows only for minor moments of disorder and finally ends the respect that their attitude is based on since we are denying the sovereign moment to man in general.
From the opposite point of view, "the centre of de Sade's world" is, according to Maurice Blanchot, "the demands of sovereignty asserted through an enormous denial". Unfettered freedom opens out into a void where the possibilities match the intensest aspirations at the expense of secondary ones; a sort of heroic cynicism cuts the ties of consideration and tenderness for others without which we cannot bear ourselves in the normal way. Perspectives of this order place us as far from what we usually are as the majesty of the storm is from the sunshine or from the drearily overcast sky. In fact we do not possess the excessive store of strength necessary to attain the fulfilment of our sovereignty. Actual sovereignty, however boundless it might seem in the silent fantasy of the masses, still even in its worst moments falls far below the unleashed frenzy that de...
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Beatrice C. Fink (essay date 1972)
SOURCE: "The Case for a Political System in Sade," in Studies on Voltaire in the Eighteenth Century, Vol. LXXXVIII, 1972, pp. 493-512.
[Fink published numerous articles on Sade during the 1970s. In the following excerpt, she examines the political content of Sade's work and argues that he should be taken seriously as a political thinker."]
Suppose it is accepted that Sade's socio-political models abound in logical inconsistencies having serious consequences for their theoretical credibility. Does it follow that Sade is therefore disqualified for membership in the fraternity of respectable political philosophers?
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Vera Lee (essay date 1972)
SOURCE: "The Sade Machine," in Studies on Voltaire in the Eighteenth Century, Vol. XCVIII, 1972, pp. 207-18.
[In the following excerpt, Lee evaluates Sade's technique in his "iconoclastic" novels in terms of its function and apparent purpose.]
In the last pages of his novel Juliette, Sade describes nature in convulsive upheaval. Lightning and turbulent wind attack the universe so violently that, in the author's words, 'On euit dit que la nature, ennuyee de ses ouvrages, fut prete a confondre tous les elements pour les contraindre a des formes nouvelles.'
Patterning himself on this cataclysmic nature, Sade the novelist rejected the bland...
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David Williams (essay date 1976)
SOURCE: "Another Look at the Sadean Heroine: The Prospects of Femininity," in Essays in French Literature, No. 13, November, 1976, pp. 28-43.
[In the following excerpt, Williams analyzes the heroines in Sade's short stories and in his novel Aline et Valcour.]
The figure of Justine and the multiple variations of the Justine legend lie at the core of Sade's output as a novelist, and offer a familiar pattern of themes central to Sade's perception of the qualities and realities of femininity. In this context, Sade's corrosive attack on sentimentalist modes, as reflected in the predilection of the period's fiction for the portrayal of a young lady's entrance into the world,...
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Angela Carter (essay date 1978)
SOURCE: "Polemical Preface: Pornography in the Service of Women," in The Sadeian Woman and the Ideology of Pornography, Pantheon, 1978, pp. 3-37.
[An English fiction writer and critic whose novels and short stories combined lush prose, eroticism, and elements of the macabre, Carter explored gender issues in both her fiction and her non-fiction. In the following excerpt, she argues that Sadean pornography is indirectly useful to women because it lays bare the oppressive politics of conventional male-female relationships.]
It is fair to say that, when pornography serves—as with very rare exceptions it always does—to reinforce the prevailing system of values and ideas...
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Andrea Dworkin (essay date 1981)
SOURCE: "The Marquis de Sade (1740-1814)," in Pornography: Men Possessing Women, The Women's Press, 1981, pp. 70-100.
[A radical feminist essayist and fiction writer, Dworkin has published several books on the politics of gender. In her book Pornography: Men Possessing Women, she argues that pornography functions in society as an instrument of power with which men degrade and subjugate women. In the following excerpt from that book, Dworkin posits that the violence against women that permeates Sade's work expresses basic assumptions about the relative rights of men and women in both his society and the present day.]
Donatien-Alphonse-François de Sade—known as...
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Joan DeJean (essay date 1984)
SOURCE: "Inside the Sadean Fortress: Les 120 journées de Sodome," in Literary Fortifications: Rousseau, Laclos, Sade, Princeton University Press, 1984, pp. 263-326.
[DeJean has published several books on French literature of the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries and on literature by and about women. In the following excerpt, she considers the relationship of The 120 Days of Sodom to the Classical literary tradition.]
The invitation to a literary feast that Sade has his narrator extend to the reader [in the introduction to The 120 Days of Sodom] is representative of just that strain in Sade's work to which recent critics have been most...
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Lawrence W. Lynch (essay date 1984)
SOURCE: "Sade and His Critics," in The Marquis de Sade, Twayne Publishers, 1984, pp. 122-32.
[Lynch has published several books and articles on eighteenth-century French literature. In this excerpt, he reviews the influence of Sade's writings and his critical reception in the nineteenth and twentieth centuries.]
Sade in the Nineteenth Century
Sade's last three contributions to literature, the trilogy of historical novels, did not attract much attention, a fact that is quite understandable when one recalls that two of them remained unpublished until 1953-54. But Sade's reputation had already been fixed at the turbulent conclusion of the...
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Robert F. O'Reilly (essay date 1987)
SOURCE: "Language and the Transcendent Subject in Three Works of the Marquis de Sade: Les 120journées de Sodome, La Philosophie dans le boudoir, and Justine," in Studies on Voltaire and the Eighteenth Century, Vol. 249, 1987, pp. 399-406.
[In the following excerpt, O'Reilly examines contradictions in Sade's concept of the self as reflected in his rhetorical practices.]
In his pioneering work on Sade [Sade, Fourier, Loyola, 1971], Roland Barthes focused attention on Sade's use of language, a context within which such problems as the readability and paradoxes of Sade's texts were resolved into a code that Barthes offered as appropriate to a reading...
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Colette V. Michael (essay date 1989)
SOURCE: "The Rhetoric of Excess and the Excesses of Sadian Rhetoric: From the Cosmic to the Comic," in Studies on Voltaire and the Eighteenth Century, Vol. 265, 1989, pp. 1277-82.
[The author of numerous books on French literature, ethics, philosophy, and women's rights, Michael has published several books and articles on the Marquis de Sade. In this excerpt, she suggests that Sade uses irony and comic effects to distance the reader from his text.]
Sade never killed anyone, nor was he ever convicted of murder, but it is said that he committed, after his death, the perfect crime, one that perpetuates itself each time one of his readers is shocked or outraged by his...
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David B. Morris (essay date 1990)
SOURCE: "The Marquis de Sade and the Discourses of Pain: Literature and Medicine at the Revolution," in The Languages of Psyche: Mind and Body in Enlightenment Thought, Clark Library Lectures 1985-1986, edited by G. S. Rousseau, University of California Press, 1990, pp. 291-330.
[Morris is an American literary critic who has also published studies on eighteenth-century English poetry. In the following excerpt, he explores Sade's use and transformation of contemporary ideas about pain and the social and political implications of this aspect of Sade's work]
My purpose in this essay is to explore Sade's literary treatment of pain, especially as his works consume and...
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Scott Carpenter (essay date 1991)
SOURCE: "Sade and the Problem of Closure: Keeping Philosophy in the Bedroom," in Neophilologus, Vol. LXXV, No. 4, October, 1991, pp. 519-28.
[In this excerpt, Carpenter examines Sade's violations of the Classical principle of closure, particularly in Philosophy in the Bedroom, as a threat to "the notion of ideology as such. "]
As Michel Foucault has demonstrated, the Classical age had mastered the art of excluding from society its undesirables, be they the criminal, the deranged, or the physically or politically abnormal. But Sade, half grand seigneur, half Revolutionary, straddled the boundary between the social and the antisocial. His contacts and...
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Frances Ferguson (essay date 1991)
SOURCE: "Sade and the Pornographic Legacy," in Representations, No. 36, Fall, 1991, pp. 1-21.
[In this excerpt, Ferguson discusses Philosophy in the Bedroom as an "antimetaphysical" and "anticultural" political dialogue and relates elements of the text to French policy regarding the national debt.]
In the discussion that follows, I shall be, essentially, taking up various aspects of the view that Sade attempts in Philosophy in the Bedroom to write a political dialogue that would be as material—as physical and as unmetaphysical—as possible. In that sense, understanding pornography as a genre with specific claims embedded in its medium seems important....
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Julie Candler Hayes (essay date 1991)
SOURCE:"Sade," in Identity and Ideology: Diderot, Sade, and the Serious Genre, John Benjamins Publishing Company, 1991, pp. 105-30.
[In the following excerpt, Hayes examines the role of conflicting ideologies in Sade's plays and novels, concentrating in particular on his disruption of structure and meaning.]
The plays have known a strange history, even among the many odd histories of Sade's texts. Refused by theater directors, hidden in libraries, walled up in a room of the Sade family chateau, censored even by the editor of Sade's complete works, the plays might be thought to contain a message as bitterly powerful as anything in the novels or in the drama they...
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Thomas DiPiero (essay date 1992)
SOURCE: "Justine and the Discourse of the (Other) Master," in Dangerous Truths & Criminal Passions: The Evolution of the French Novel, 1569-1791. Stanford University Press, 1992, pp. 333-74.
[In his book Dangerous Truths & Criminal Passions, DiPiero argues that the novel arose as a medium of resistance to accepted literary genres and to the ideological assumptions they served to legitimize. In the following excerpt, he suggests that Sade's narrative strategies in Justine expose the constructed nature of discourse and ideology.]
In the marquis de Sade's Justine ou les malbeurs de Is vertu we will see [a] protagonist employ the discursive...
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Further Reading
Michael, Colette Verger. The Marquis de Sade: The Man, His Works, and His Critics. New York: Garland, 1986, 428 p.
Annotated bibliography of books by and about Sade, covering works published through 1983.
Airaksinen, Timo. Of Glamor, Sex and De Sade. Wakefield, N.H.: Longwood Academic, 1991, 220 p.
A philosophical examination of issues involved in reading the works of Sade.
Fink, Beatrice C. "Ambivalence in the Gynogram: Sade's Utopian Woman." Woman and Literature 7, No. 1 (Winter 1979): 24-37.
Examines contradictions in Sade's treatment...
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Karin L. Reichensperger
Karin L.
Reichensperger, 41
Guatemala City, Guatemala and St. Cloud, Minnesota
May 20, 1972-
July 11, 2013
Mass of Christian Burial will be 11 a.m., Wednesday, July 17, at St. Mary's Cathedral upper Church in St. Cloud for Karin L. Reichensperger, 41, who died suddenly in Guatemala City, Guatemala. The Rev. Anthony Oelrich, Rev. Al Stangl, Rev. Bernard Ness, OSB and Rev. Jeff Ethan will concelebrate. Entombment will be in Assumption Cemetery, St. Cloud.
Friends and relatives may call from 3-9 p.m. on Tuesday, July 16, and after 9 a.m. on Wednesday at the Williams Dingmann Family Funeral Home, St. Cloud.
Karin was born May 20, 1972 in St. Cloud to Charles P. & Constance L. (Forstner) Reichensperger. She founded the MESSAGE Program in 2003 and became its full-time, volunteer Executive Director. Karin made it her life goal to create and expand an organization that could help those in need. She made volunteering her life; living by her motto "Not only are we making a difference in someone's day, we're changing their life."
The MESSAGE Program gathers medical, dental, EMS, and Fire equipment and supplies which are contributed to communities in third-world countries. In addition to providing supplies, Karin and volunteers from The MESSAGE Program also provide training necessary to use the equipment. She accompanied the organization's first shipment to Guatemala in 2003 and has made numerous trips back.
To Karin volunteering meant sharing your blessings with those in need. She enjoyed representing the generous donors that enabled The MESSAGE Program to make a difference in the lives of so many. She will be dearly missed by everyone she touched; from Central Minnesota, Minneapolis, to Guatemala, and borders beyond.
She is survived by her loving parents, Charles and Connie of St. Cloud, siblings, Lia Nistler of Cold Spring, Kay of St. Michael, Charles (Martha) of St. Cloud, and Diane (Keith) Nohner of Farmington; nieces and nephews, Tim Hoefer, Jake and Madison Nohner, Nichole and Alex Gonzalez; maternal grandmother, Veronica Forstner.
Karin was preceded in death by her paternal grandparents and maternal grandfather.
In lieu of flowers memorials are preferred to Stearns Bank in Karin's name.


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Technology is clearly not my forte.
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The Internet has created an ideal environment for postmodernism to flourish and spread—not in spite of all those shortcomings but precisely because of them.
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What amazes me is that even though I am a product of the effort to dumb down our society with twisted facts involving everything from evolution and history to using school kids as pawns with the church state division lie, along with a family history rooted in legalism, that God would find a way to burst through the accumulated clutter with the Truth and save a lie propagator like me.
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Isn't it amazing that, in this modern age of abundant technology, that we are becoming more illiterate as a society? Many of the "kids" who are the peers of my children have trouble understanding and communicating the written word. As a preschool teacher, I wonder where the kids I teach now will be in 10 years! It's infiltrating the church, too! Easy Christianity without reading the Word for yourself. It's like a present day Sodom & Gamorrah.
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As a wordy blog-writer who has slowly pared down my messages to a few short paragraphs so as to overcome the attention span barrier, I see one possible consequence of "tweets"... With the short phrase communication comes an easier chunk of words to translate.
Though the Prince of the power of the air benefits from the advancement of communication technology, it is God Almighty who will have a witness for His word! Take heart, there are two sides to every coin :)
How do we teach our children to work for knowledge? Even the volumes of biblical resources pastor's require in their sermon preparation are available in binary code. An entire libray on a memory stick.
It is amazing athow much the internet is being used today. I like tothink of it in terms of this: backbefor the NT era, God was placing Greek as the common language to the known world, and so now the internet is the common means to share information and everything else to all who will listen. But this also draws in the importance of good hermaneutics as we all discussed last week. Discernment is now more needed than ever becasue as John MacArthur pointed out, whoever has the skills to draw crowds to listen are not necessatily qualified to speak. Another branch of ministry has been born with the popularity of the web. I think it is amazing. What is God going to do next? I stand in awe.
Proliferating 'is giving life'
Ignorance 'the condition or state of being unaware, uneducated or uninformed'
Put together you have the argument, the results and the state of medical marijuana programs.
Or maybe today's educational system where yesterdays B student is today's A to yesterday's F is today's D.
Did the government pull 'em up a level or drop 'em a level and do they know?
This generation of the young ones today are absolutely being bombarded with the relentless schemes of the evil one. Society today is cultivating a thoughtless, lazy and preoccupied nation thru the drug and entertainment industries. Its lead by decieved undiscerning adults spewing corrosive and damning ideologies and the internet provides a faster broader spectrum for that.
Kids today will naturally go along with the masses because its easier and for fear of making a judgement call. We have become so politically correct that our youth will be swimming in a massive state of confusion where right and wrong will be so closely related that you cant tell where one ends and the other starts. As adults, we need to do our homework and have answers for these young ones that have questions that might not be tolerated anywhere else. We have to spur some thought in these kids and have solid answers for them. That will not get done through idleness on our part. Like Pastor MacArthur said, Truth is a battleground. Thank you again Pastor for expositing the Truth and equipping us for the battle!
From a sheer economic standpoint, without the continued blessing of the LORD JESUS CHRIST, America is doomed to fall into obscurity perhaps this generation. Lets face it, India(i get this info from Dr. Jack Van Impe) has more college level graduates then the entire population of America combined! Also, Japan requires their students to be educated year round, whereas we Americans give our children summer vacations. I did a study not too long ago that Pastor Macarthur gave concerning God's wrath(as found in Romans chapter 1:18-32). In that study, it is revealed that one of the ways GOD displays wrath is to simply remove HIS hand of blessing, and allows a nation (or nations) to simply run its course to its eventual demise (Prov 14:34; Ps 9:17). As Pastor John shows in his blog here, our education leaves much to be desired(I myself am not guiltless, i have only a GED with some college credits). Father forgive us for forgetting about you, and may we humble ourselves and pray and seek your face(2 Chron 7:14) in Jesus name, amen.
I came to blogging late (only been blogging about 2 1/2 years). I enjoy it because it gives me an outlet for my thoughts and writing. I consider it a hobby. I don't Twitter or FB and have no plans to do so. Keeping up with someone's daily habits is not something I am interested in. Technology has been both blessing and bane to the church. We need to use it wisely in spreading Truth.
I think it is awesome that due to technology there are so many resources that can be obtained nowadays in regards to studying the Word. The internet makes so many bibles, commentaries, dictionaries, concordances etc. available to the public and at no charge. Add to that ministries like GTY and it is almost impossible not to be a Berean! (almost)
Folks need to be ashamed of themselves they way they interpret the bible when so many resources are readily available and most for no charge. It makes me respect our forefathers all the more for doing so much with the resources they had.
"There is no excuse for ignorance when knowledge is available."
Good post John, at least I think it was....I kinda lost my focus and wasn't able to finish reading it.
Just kidding. Technology is an awesome way to advance the Word of God and I'm very thankful to GTY for taking advantage of the latest technology. Especially grateful to the board for voting in favor of making the sermon downloads free! For those of us with no good expositional teaching nearby it is truly a blessing!
I don't think there is anything more to say here. Wow. John, I think you are right and it is a joy to read these insightful thoughts on our world today. I think your blog and everything you do is just such a huge blessing to me and some of my friends. I don't know where a lot of us Christians would be without your straight-forward Bible teaching. Well, I know where I would be and thank God that he has ordained you for this work. That comment about blogs fazing out is pretty right on track to. We seem to be dumbing ourselves down at a surprising rate.
A phrase "wilfully ignorant" in 2 Peter chapter 3 comes to mind. As a 30 year plus correctional professional, I have experienced my share of offenders that have come before a judge or judgement panel with some form of the excuse "I didn't know ..." when, in fact, the closer truth is that they didn't want to know. I suspect the same "excuse" is in mind at present in those that are in the process of perishing. I say this not in haughtiness, but with a profound sense of sorrow.
Yes, I have to agree, from everything I've observed with Facebook and blogs, etc. A lot of blogs now just have links to video clips, as people would rather be entertained by watching something than even taking the effort to read. I have my own blog as a hobby (only started just over a year ago), a way to write about the things I learn through Bible reading and study -- but so few people are interested in reading anything longer than a paragraph, and increasingly some of the blogs I visit have shorter and shorter postings.It's a pity, that the Internet technology brings such great access to good Bible study resources, some really great material that the average Christian could not have even dreamed of even 15 years ago -- but the vast majority of people have become even lazier and do not avail themselves of the opportunity.
I have enjoyed your teaching going on two decades now, Mr. MacArthur. Thank you for your tenacity in hanging on to the pure Word of the gospel, and thank you for sticking to only one or two versions of scripture. I won't get too deep into the semantics of all the different English Bible versions as a means of causing chaos - there are presently some 20 versions. How are we to be of one mind, if we can't recognize scripture being read (isn't the best way to defeat a foe, to divide and conquer?). How does having a plethora of English versions of scripture, and most of them unrecognizable in their entirety, aid in evanglizing the lost? It has only served to confuse and discourage new believers. Most of these versions are not easy to memorize either. If commodity was supposed to bring in new converts, it's failing miserably. All I can see is $$ signs in the eyes of many of these copyrights. (No offense meant Mr. MacArthur, your study Bible is actually made to teach the flock. It's not just a little 5 minute feelgood, "There I've read the Bible for today," devotion.
I would like to comment about the "education or lack of education" of America. Education in and of itself is not a Panacea of blessing. Scipture says, "too much knowledge puffs up".
The people who tamed our Alberta prairie wilderness 100 years ago most likely had no more than a 3rd-8th grade education (which was probably equivalent to a 1st year college, presently). However, case in point, they took pride in a job well done, based on the fact that the Lord said we were made to work and we work for Him, and so that's how many did it - for Him. Our ancestors here in this North American continent were hard workers, tenacious, fearless, individuals who when there was a job presented to them, took said task in hand and completed it. There were no surveys, or polls to see if it was feasible, or how it would benefit the City Council... most of the cities here in the west were the size of a large town. They faced famine, disease, loss of livestock, loss of loved ones..... and most of all loneliness. These prairies are still sparsely populated in comparison to much of the world. You can drive for miles, and miles between our wheat fields looking for the honesteads that the lands belong to.
I am not belittling education; however, our society has produced some of the most uninformed, superstitious, lacking in common-sense "scholars" ever in the history of education, given the volume of information that is actually available. Most University students cannot spell as well as my Grandmother could, much to their shame (and she did not graduate). The issue of lack of common-sense among the scholarly elite is rather embarassing as well. The mejority of ordinary tradesmen i.e.; Journeyman Technicians in Heavy-Duty Mechanics, Tool and Die, Automotive, Carpentry, and such the like put many of our "educated" people to shame with their problem solving abilities and talents for seeing things as they really are.
It is was not my purpose to be contentious about this subject, but the lack of sensibility of society in dealing with real life comes mostly from their formal schooling. Which purports to aid us and our children in functioning in this world - I present to you that this could not be farther from the truth. Our society has substituted secular education (the Goddess Sophia), as the "God of this Age" - Satan has manipulated it well, as we in this world are putty in his hands; and the church has been blinded by it. I, myself, simply have a diploma, but my grandmother and my mother instilled in me pride of workmanship, a desire to learn, and the joy of life (through our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ).
Douglass Mollett - # 15 Sherry Ginther's post should allay any guilt you have about having 'just a GED' and some college credits. Dr. MacArthur is also talking about biblical knowledge. You are a saved man and that sir - as you already know, is by far the most important thing! Personally, I would rather my children have no education, save for the Bible - if being educated by wordly standards meant their soul was lost. That being said I am a fan education- of properly guided, biblically sound education which is why we home school.
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Food Habits
Taeniura lymma has very distinct feeding behaviors. During high tide, it migrates in groups into shallow sandy areas of tidal flats to feed on sand worms, Decapoda, Pleocyemata, and small Actinopterygii. At low tide it recedes back into the ocean, usually alone to hide in the coral crevices of the reef. (Taylor, 1997)
Blue-spotted stingrays will feed on many things such as Actinopterygii, Decapoda, Decapoda, Polychaeta and other benthic invertebrates. Since the mouth is located on the underside of the body, food is trapped by pressing the prey into the substrate with their discs. The food is then directed into the mouth by maneuvering the disc over the prey. (McEachran, 2004)
Taeniura lymma can detect its prey through an electroreceptor system. The nostrils are partly covered with a broad fleshy lobe, known as the internasal flap. This is covered in sensory pores and extends to the mouth. These pores form part of the ampullae of Lorenzini (the electrorecption system.) This electroreceptor system can detect electrical fields produced by the prey. This electroreceptor system cannot only be used to detect prey but can also be used to detect predators and other members of the same species. (Taylor, 1997)


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Bill - Did you stick to the recipes as printed, using the 3% salt ratio, and was the final product a good salt level for you?John
Yes and yes.
Excellent. Off to the store to order some heritage pork belly, jowls, and back fat.John
Local pork belly is in the fridge for it's cure. I cut it in half for easier handling. I have visions of all the pizza and pasta I am going to enhance with this pancetta - fingers crossed it works! The salt level seemed low per the book recipe, but I am sticking to it since Bill had such a good end product. I used coarse Maine sea salt.John
Looks good, John. Where are you going to dry cure it after it comes out of the refrigerator?
In a wine fridge. I am using the setup you described for yours earlier in the thread.I am really trying to figure out a larger walk-in space for dry curing, so I can do larger muscles like prosciutto. There is very little reference out there on creating such an environment. In the book "Cooking by Hand" by Paul Bertolli he describes a partially underground space open to the air, but there is not enough information or specific plans to recreate it. Plus, I don't think my neighborhood is such a good place for open air meat drying - he lives in northern California in believe.I have access to some pretty amazing local pork. Western Mass has alot of great farms and heritage breeds.John
Failure. The belly has developed mold. This is the second time I have tried to cure meat, and it has not worked out either time. I am resigned to buying my salumi - alot less dangerous!John
It turns out my humidity level was WAY off. The sensor placement I had said 68%. I took it out and moved it to the bottom of the chamber, and after that it was 95%. So I aired out the chamber completely, took out all the equipment, and set a pan of saturated salt in the bottom. I have the door slightly ajar now, and temp is 55 and the humidity 72%. I am going to see how things progress with the low tech method. The mold is white and not fuzzy, so I will just see where things go.John
Can anyone share a pic of their drying chamber if they built one (i.e., aren't using just a cool basement)?
Quick question. I know the fan circulates the air to keep it from getting stagnant... But, do you open the door regularly to get fresh air in/out? If so, how often?


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Districts see savings with transportation change
HANCOCK – Three years ago, the members of the Hancock Public Schools Board of Education contracted with R&A Transportation to bus students. At their Nov. 18 regular meeting they approved another three-year contract with the company, but the vote wasn't unanimous.
Monica Healy, school district superintendent, said the decision by board members three years ago to end the district's busing service and contract it out was made because they saw it as a way to save money and reduce the district's deficit.
"We were looking at every avenue of saving money," Healy said.
Other local school districts in the Copper Country Intermediate School District had already switched to R&A Transportation, which is based in Iron Mountain, and Healy said she heard from other superintendents they were saving money by privatizing the bus service.
Discussions by the Hancock Board of Education actually started in 2005 during the tenure of her predecessor John Vaara, Healy said. A Wisconsin-based company was considered but it was determined there would be no savings.
Healy became superintendent in 2009. During the 2010-11 school year, she said, board members began discussing whether privatizing busing would save the district money.
"We started looking at the fact we would have to replace buses," she said.
There were six Hancock Public Schools bus drivers at the time the first contract with R&A was signed, Healy said. The first year of the contract, some drivers were hired by R&A, and others took other jobs with the school district.
"Nobody lost their job," she said.
Healy said how much the district spent on busing depended on several varying factors, such as whether new buses needed to be purchased and how much was spent on fuel and maintenance. The known costs were wages and employee retirement costs.
However, Healy said from the first year of privatization on, the cost savings have been $30,000 to $40,000 per year.
Healy said the six buses the district owned at the time of the first contract with R&A were leased toward purchase to the company. Those buses are now owned by R&A.
"We won't get that (lease) payment anymore, but we aren't expending anymore," she said.
During the board discussions about privatizing busing in 2011, some of the drivers and some parents of students in the schools attended board meetings to urge board members to keep the district's drivers and bus system. The only board member to vote against privatization then was Chuck Paoli, who also voted no Nov. 18 for the renewal of the contract with R&A through the 2016-17 school year.
"I'm just not a person that supports privatization," he said. "I have concerns about what's going to happen to the rates."
Although he trusts the former Hancock bus drivers who are now working for R&A, Paoli said he's concerned about the reliability of future drivers since they will be part-time.
Jan Quarless, superintendent of the Dollar Bay-Tamarack City Area Schools, said in 2007, it was the first district in the CCISD to contract with R&A.
Much of the impetus for considering privatization had to do with the district's four buses.
"Our bus fleet was getting old," he said. "We weren't in a good financial condition to buy new buses."
Some of the drivers for the district at the time of initially contracting with R&A were retained in the district on the custodial staff and two retired.
Quarless said from the first year of change to R&A, the district has saved $15,000 to $20,000 each year.
The board of education renewed the contract with R&A two years ago, Quarless said. The current contract runs through the 2017-18 school year.
Tim Keteri, superintendent of the Adams Township School District, said that board of education made the switch to R&A six years ago, and it has been beneficial for the district.
"The savings is significant," he said. "More money has gone into programing."
Keteri said the savings the district has experienced include driver wages, new bus purchases and bus maintenance. There were also savings from driver benefits and retirement costs.
"That's a huge savings," he said.
The board of education members renewed the contract with R&A two years ago for five years, Keteri said.
"It was a good financial decision (to privatize transportation)," he said.
George Stockero, superintendent of Chassell Township Schools, said the switch to R&A was made in 2010. The board members renewed the contract in 2012 until 2016.
Stockero said using R&A helps stabilize the district's transportation costs.
"We know what our budget is," he said.
Stockero said the district is saving $13,000 every year with the switch to R&A.
"We are very happy," he said.
Doreen Klingbeil, superintendent of the Houghton-Portage Township School District, said that district switched to privatized busing four years ago. They renewed the contract two years ago for five years.
The savings to the district since the change have been about $130,000 per year, Klingbeil said. That includes the cost of possible new buses, wages and benefits, maintenance, and fuel.
When the initial change was made to R&A, Klingbeil said some of the district's drivers retired and some went to R&A.
"We didn't have to let anybody go," she said.
Klingbeil said the bus service will be evaluated each year, but so far she and the board members have been happy with R&A.
"We've been pleased with the service," she said.


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Veteran retailers that did not initially embrace floating luxury vinyl tiles (LVT) are now converting to the glueless method, saying it appeals to end-users; has a compelling upgrade story; and, simplifies the installation process.
Jeff Kaspin, owner of Monroe Township, N.J.-based A.B. Carpet, was strongly opposed to LVT click systems after experiencing failures with first generation grip-strip floating LVTs in 2008.
"After my first experience with floating LVT, I was adamant to glue products down because I was afraid they wouldn't hold up as well with only a click system," he said. "Now I'm making a 180-degree turn. I'm now a click convert."
Kaspin's change of heart occurred in early March when he received and tested samples of Alloc Dream Click and Shaw VersaLock — two new mechanically-locking LVT lines launched earlier this year.
"Immediately we were impressed by the mill work; both products are engineered very well," said Kaspin. "They're also two of the nicest looking wood visuals I've seen in vinyl. They have great graining. And obviously my installers were happy to be working without glue."
The new line is an instant hit. Kaspin has already closed four jobs, including a rare light commercial installation at a chiropractic office.
"I'm looking at 44 cartons of Alloc Dream Click right now," he said. "I have two more installations for it on Wednesday and Thursday. I don't regret waiting this long to adopt click LVT. I needed to see how these products held up under certain conditions."
Savvy dealers who have embraced floating LVTs are now strategically positioning them as premier "step up" products within their vinyl offering, according to Ed Keller, executive vice president and general manager of Tampa, Fla.-based Bob's Carpet Mart.
"There's an opportunity for sheet vinyl at the opening price points and then there's glue-down planks and now I'm upgrading them all the way with locking products," said Keller. "It's another level you can step the customer up to. They're already familiar with the locks because of laminate. Prices have been floating all over the place but we're still getting $2.50 a square foot. That's more than we get for some of our laminates."
Keller, like a lot of dealers, has dramatically expanded his floating LVT offering which now includes Mannington, Mohawk and Shaw click products; Armstrong's grip-strip Luxe; and, loose lay formats from FreeFit and Shaw.
The accelerated growth of floating LVT is altering dealer showrooms, with many dealers choosing to clear out laminate displays to make more room for new LVT introductions. And there's no shortage of willing suppliers contending for that space, with more than 70 registered exhibitors of LVT at Surfaces 2013.
"I used to carry a lot of laminate. I had Wilsonart and everyone else," said Jerry Butler, owner of Fred's Carpet Plus in Torrance, Calif. "Now I carry three laminate brands but I have half a dozen LVT suppliers. LVT sales have surpassed laminate in our store and it's greatly due to being waterproof and available in floating formats."
The pace at which floating LVT is catching on is already impacting the entire industry, said Sam Roberts, president of Houston, Texas-based Roberts Carpet and Fine Floors.
"This is one of those critical moments in business when a change is occurring, and in the case of floating LVT it's happening at an accelerated pace," he said. "LVT is gaining a lot of traction. It's still not a total percentage anywhere near carpet or hardwood but it's gaining. The visuals have become a lot better. And now the absolute ease of glueless installation has propelled the category to a new level."
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Skip to comments.Two Sides of Rand Paul: Not a wacko, but at times off-base.
Posted on 03/16/2013 11:04:50 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
After listening to Rand Paul speak at National Reviews Washington office, Bob Costa concludes that the senator is leading one side of what is nothing less than a fight for the soul of the GOP on foreign policy. Lets hope so.
Whether what emerges is also a conservative foreign policy depends as much on which Senator Paul wins as on whether he wins. If it is the Rand Paul who perceived the common hegemonic denominator between Soviet totalitarianism and Islamic-supremacist totalitarianism in a provocative speech at the Heritage Foundation last month, there is cause for optimism. Not as hope-inspiring is the Rand Paul portrayed in Bobs NRO report. It is already clear, though, that Senator Pauls agitations serve conservative ends more consistently than does the erratic adventurism of his opposite numbers in the GOPs intramural brawl: John McCain and Lindsey Graham.
Bob describes these Beltway establishment figures as the foreign-policy grandees in the Senate Republican conference, standard-bearers of what is said to be the Bush-Cheney approach to foreign policy. The latter claim is not entirely fair, particularly to the Cheney component of the ledger; but that is a story for another day. For now, the point mine, not Costas is that Senators McCain and Graham are not conservatives. They are progressive-lite populists who bend with the wind, an occupational hazard of service to a fuzzy global-stability agenda rather than to vital American interests pursued within a constitutional, limited-government framework.
Paul proudly claims the conservative tag that seems to embarrass the media-manic McCain except during those dolorous primary seasons when even a maverick must appeal to the GOP base. And once Paul outmaneuvered them (and the Obama administration) in the recent dust-up over U.S. drone-missile strikes, McCain and Graham became strident in their efforts to marginalize the Kentuckian branding Paul ill-informed and a wacko bird of the Right. But Paul is far from a wacko or, for that matter, the extremist I once made the mistake of describing him as. I was referring to a libertarian position he took against indefinite detention for American citizens suspected of being enemy combatants. The extremist descriptor did not fit the man, and it exaggerated the position hed taken, which extended discussion showed to be less detached from wartime exigencies than it initially seemed.
In the senatorial name-calling, one senses a certain desperation, a fear on the part of McCain and Graham that the ground beneath them is shifting. Theres good reason for that.
You wont ever hear Paul echoing McCains assertion that the way to get foreign policy back on track would be to put John Kerry and Joe Biden in charge of it. You wont find Paul, like McCain and Graham, toasting Qaddafi one minute, then in the next calling for his head; or condemning the Muslim Brotherhoods sharia totalitarianism one minute, then in the next calling for Americans to work with and subsidize the Brothers. You wont find Paul, in vertiginous McCain fashion, blathering about democracy-promotion and global stability while championing the secession from Serbia of a Muslim state Kosovo, which now stands as a breakaway inspiration to Islamic-supremacist insurgents the world over. You wont find Paul lamenting, à la Graham, that free speech is a great idea, but were in a war; to the contrary, Paul appears to grasp that if you are prepared to subordinate the First Amendment to a desire not to pull the hair-trigger savagery of your enemies, then you have already lost the war.
In this sense, Dr. Paul perfectly diagnoses the GOPs sorry condition after years on the McCain/Graham regimen: When you saw the debate between President Obama and Romney on foreign policy, they sounded pretty similar. In the vice-presidential debate, Biden was more assertive, but Ryan didnt disagree with most of his positions.
Bingo: It has been a while since Republicans were led by a Reagan by someone who looks totalitarianism in the eye and calls it what it is. You dont hear todays GOP saying of the Muslim Brotherhood and its sharia-supremacist allies, We win, they lose. Todays GOP is more likely to tell the Muslim Brotherhood, Were here to partner with you. Todays GOP looks at ideologues who promise to conquer the West and sees not an evil empire but a Religion of Peace. Yes, it was Obama who opted to arm and fund the Muslim Brotherhood government in Egypt where a new sharia constitution has been imposed, women are thus reduced to a lower caste, and minority Christians are systematically persecuted. But it was Republicans who voted decisively to approve these measures.
To his great credit, Senator Paul tried to stop our governments transfer of F-16 aircraft and Abrams tanks to Egypt. He certainly has that half of the equation right. At Heritage, he observed that while the war is not with Islam but with a radical element of Islam the problem is that this element is no small minority but a vibrant, often mainstream, vocal and numerous minority. Id say minority is hopeful at least in the Middle East, where, as Paul further noted, the enemy ideology grips whole countries, such as Saudi Arabia. Islamic-supremacism what he called radical Islam is, as he described, no fleeting fad but a relentless force. To empower Islamic supremacists is a grave mistake.
In his National Review interview, Senator Paul rightly faulted the 2012 GOP ticket for banking on the fallacy that victory lay in allowing no daylight between its own positions and Obamas abominable foreign policy. But his critique then skipped the rails. The Romney/Ryan platform, he complained, was sort of like, Well . . . come a little bit slower out of Afghanistan. . . . But Biden had a good response, Were coming home. And I think thats what people want; I think thats what people are ready for, that were coming home. And why does Paul think Americans want to come home? Because of war weariness.
Americans are clearly not pining for our troops to come home from Europe, Japan, Korea, the Persian Gulf, or other locations where their presence assures the peace through strength on which our prosperity depends. In Afghanistan, Americans are not weary of war; they are weary as they were in Iraq of our governments misconception of the war, the very thing Pauls Heritage speech undertook to correct. They are weary of expending the lives and limbs of our best young people and of wasting hundreds of billions of dollars in a time of existentially threatening debt on nation-building experiments premised on the fiction that Islamic and Western cultures desire the same things.
Like Senator Paul, Americans are not anxious for war. But when it is necessary and fought for our vital interests particularly our liberty and security we are extremely supportive. Paul is right that war should be a limited-duration exercise. What he described at Heritage as a foreign policy that balanced our vital interests, our desires, and our strapped resources, is indeed one that, as he put it, would target our enemy, strike with lethal force, and exit expeditiously.
If that is truly where he is coming from, though, he ought to study what former Bush Justice Department official John Yoo actually says instead of using a Yoo caricature as a piñata the tack he took in the NR interview, regrettably reminiscent of the way McCain and Graham have disserved Paul himself. I doubt my friend Professor Yoo would dare dabble in ophthalmology, but in trying his hand at constitutional law, Dr. Paul predictably commits malpractice. He has confused Yoos scholarship on the unitary executive with advocacy of the executive lawlessness known as the imperial presidency.
Yoos take on the meaning of the power to declare war that the Constitution vests in Congress is more narrow than mine, but, contrary to Pauls intimation, Yoo most certainly does not believe there is no limitation on executive power. (Senator Paul might peruse The Presidency Redefined, Yoos essay in the March 11 edition of National Review, in which he contends, inter alia, that conservatives would be more consistent in their quest to rein in the administrative state if they foreswore the vigorous use of executive power.) What Yoo argues is that once war is commenced whether by unilateral presidential response to threats against U.S. interests or by congressional authorization the target our enemy, strike with lethal force approach that Paul commends is an executive responsibility. On that, both law and American history are firmly on Yoos side.
Any successful conservative foreign policy is going to marry the clarity about the enemy that animated Rand Pauls Heritage speech with the clear distinction John Yoo draws between fighting war and fighting crime. And wed better get about it because the stakes are high.
Foreign policy, inextricably intertwined with national security, must be a core concern of the political Right. It must derivatively be seen by voters as an issue on which trust is better reposed in the GOP the major party that, in theory at least, is responsive to the Right. If this is not the case, then, as David Horowitz persuasively contends, Republicans are sure to lose elections. Ronald Reagan made the struggle against Soviet totalitarianism central to his campaigns. Mitt Romney regarded the struggle against Islamic-supremacist totalitarianism as something too politically incorrect to mention amid platitudinous five-point economic plans. There are reasons why eminently winnable elections are lost.
Andrew C. McCarthy is a senior fellow at the National Review Institute and the executive director of the Philadelphia Freedom Center. He is the author, most recently, of Spring Fever: The Illusion of Islamic Democracy, which is published by Encounter Books.
If Rand Paul's off base, it's the citizen's of this country that must change. Any doubt was washed away when the election was gifted to Zero by the RINO's and NWO gang.
US foreign policy is dictated by new world order through the CFR.
Personally, I resent our nation and our military being their plaything for the past century.
When they come clean about every new world order operation, every CIA operation, and they turn the nation back over to the people, then I'll start thinking about what truly American interests there are around the world. Right now, it's what new world order interests there are around the world that US foreign policy is actually concerned with, and it amounts to an endless stream of manipulation. Higher taxes, more control, more agitation and revolution, more economic troubles, more big business monopoly profits, more small business and working schmucks getting hammered, more rejection of the God of the Bible.
American business leaders and government leaders need to wake up and smell the coffee, i.e., the evil of what they are doing, and mend the error of their ways, or they need to be replaced by those who are not corrupted by the beast of new world order, noted for its slavery (physical, as well as to sin and debt), that was raised up against us.
Individual Americans need to get right with God and start owning and operating businesses. That's the eventual path the power - real Americans have to be "in the driver's seat" instead of the globalist new world order minions that are in power now.
"Bingo: It has been a while since Republicans were led by a Reagan by someone who looks totalitarianism in the eye and calls it what it is. You dont hear todays GOP saying of the Muslim Brotherhood and its sharia-supremacist allies, We win, they lose. Todays GOP is more likely to tell the Muslim Brotherhood, Were here to partner with you. Todays GOP looks at ideologues who promise to conquer the West and sees not an evil empire but a Religion of Peace. Yes, it was Obama who opted to arm and fund the Muslim Brotherhood government in Egypt where a new sharia constitution has been imposed, women are thus reduced to a lower caste, and minority Christians are systematically persecuted. But it was Republicans who voted decisively to approve these measures.
To his great credit, Senator Paul tried to stop our governments transfer of F-16 aircraft and Abrams tanks to Egypt. He certainly has that half of the equation right. At Heritage, he observed that while the war is not with Islam but with a radical element of Islam the problem is that this element is no small minority but a vibrant, often mainstream, vocal and numerous minority. Id say minority is hopeful at least in the Middle East, where, as Paul further noted, the enemy ideology grips whole countries, such as Saudi Arabia. Islamic-supremacism what he called radical Islam is, as he described, no fleeting fad but a relentless force. To empower Islamic supremacists is a grave mistake."
You can lay all this on Grover Norquist and spineless Republicans that are terrified of being primaried. The sooner that Republicans tell Norky to GFY, the better off the Republicans will be.
"Americans are clearly not pining for our troops to come home from Europe, Japan, Korea, the Persian Gulf, or other locations where their presence assures the peace through strength on which our prosperity depends."
This is wrong. Our forces are there propping up other economies. They don't want us to leave because they'll lose the dollars that are spent there. As far as I'm concerned, we should bring our guys home & tell these countries it's time to spend more on their own military to assure the peace.
Is McCarthy talking about continuing a cold war based economy to eternity? Perpetual war for perpetual peace?
A strong defense is necessary, of course, but the US military is in something like 140 countries (AFAIK). Wasn't something said about "entangling alliances" a while back?
"You can lay all this on Grover Norquist and spineless Republicans that are terrified of being primaried. The sooner that Republicans tell Norky to GFY, the better off the Republicans will be."
Also, after Paul's filibuster, Van Jones made a comment about liking something in his speech. Many here on FR chose to interpret that to mean Jones was 'endorsing' Rand Paul...not hardly!
Jones does plenty of his liberal disagreement with Paul here:http://www.ijreview.com/2013/03/41926-15-most-absurd-or-dishonest-tweets-from-mainstream-media-figures//#post-slideshow2
He even says Paul would stand with the KKK. Hardly an endorsement!
"Only if you think that granting Amnesty to 2 million Illegal Aliens every year is a great idea.
This is a suicide plan for the GOP and America(re: Automatically giving the electoral advantage to the Democrats), and it's Rand Pauls great idea for handling the Illegal Alien problem."
There you go again. YOU KNOW you are being dishonest about this. He would legalize 2 million per year INSTEAD of ALL of them, like your idol Sarah Palin and so many others have advocated. Stop lying, and using the tactics of the left, it doesn't help your candidate. Ted Cruz is better than that and you insult him with your twisting of facts. He stood up for Rand Paul!
"After ensuring border security, then I would normalize the status of the 11 million undocumented citizens so they can join the workforce and pay taxes. I would normalize them at a rate of about 2 million per year. I would start with Dream Act kids, children brought here illegally as minors. Normalization would get them a temporary Visa but would not put them ahead of anyone already waiting to enter the country. These undocumented persons would now be documented but they would still have to wait in line like everyone else. But their path to permanent legal status would be no faster than those currently waiting in line.
Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/feb/8/sen-rand-paul-trust-verify-immigration-reform/#ixzz2NjTatk3M
I'll take Rand over our modern day Nero any day.
He compares favorably with the current White House resident who is a full time narcisstic, schizophrenic, megalomaniac with severe delusions of grandeur whose grasp of reality is critically and almost totally impaired by a near terminal case of false self esteem.
And those are his good points.
I stand with Rand.
Rand Paul shows more common sense than any other possible contender in 2016. But that does not mean he can win nomination. If common sense was important to Americans, no way in hell Obama should have won 2nd term.
I have been slowly backing away from the National Review, I am a subscriber and their hawk stance on everything. I like Paul and his strong defense libertarianism.
Is McCarthy talking about continuing a cold war based economy to eternity? Perpetual war for perpetual peace?
Yes he is, this is one of the reasons I am backing away from NR. This insane police of the world forgin policy needs to end. Strong defense and strong civil defense is the best use of our military.
All Rand Paul has done, both with this normalization crap, and his statements of taking softer stances on the Social Issues and removing marriage from the tax code, IS SIGNAL DEFEAT!
He is moving the ball down the field in the direction of the LEFT'S GOAL POST!
That's not leadership, that's compromising your core values, IF YOU ARE A CONSERVATIVE, to gain election.
No he is being a libertarian, and libertarians believe in privacy and leaveing people to be. lThat is a conservative value as far as I am concerned.
Remember when Republicans used to say "LETS GET OUT OF THE U.N"? ...
What do you want to do with them? they're not going to be rounded up. He supports giving the ones who work a visa which leads eventually to citizenship. He probably won't support Rubio's amnesty as it doesn't have enough protections. He calls it "trust but verify" and voted on by the congress every year.
Conservatives, also believe in the rule of law, and morality.
By "Normalizing" or providing a de-facto Amnesty, he is violating the principle of rule of law.
By signaling surrender on the Gay Agenda, he violating the conservative principle of fighting against the Homosexual agenda
If you think that Conservatives are goint to bring back the law and morality in this country, you are delusional. Not going to happen. The BEST that can be hoped is that there is created is a place where Conservatives will be allowed to exist. Sad but true.
His amnesty is not any more onerous than Reagan's and a lot better than the leftists. One cannnot win without a yes on this vote.
Homosexuals are much more powrful than Conservatives, and will win this one. Much more powerful.
it is what it is.
Sorry, real conservatives never surrender on principles.
With respect to Reagan, Michael Reagan, you know, his son?! Stated that his father told him that his Immigration bill, which was much tougher than how it was actually enforced, was the biggest mistake of his political career.
You're nothing but a troll.
THAT is what it is!
I am a troll?
I have been here supporting FR and its causes since 1998.
And I can also see that there are some realities that we face. Who is surrendering. Not me, these are just not battles worth fighting at this time because the losses are too grave.
Stop calling people names.
I miss the old FR where people argued, disagreed and discussed. None of this childish "You're a TROLL bulls****.
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Skip to comments.Survey: Evangelical Voters for Romney Overshadowed by Youth, Minorities for Obama
Posted on 11/08/2012 6:33:16 AM PST by HokieMom
Evangelical Christian voters turned out in record numbers according to a national post-election survey done by the Faith and Freedom Coalition. However, despite a 78 to 21 percent split in favor of Mitt Romney among white evangelicals, the coalition's leader implied that Barack Obama's win was catapulted by votes from youths and minorities.
"Evangelicals turned out in record numbers and voted as heavily for Mitt Romney yesterday as they did for George W. Bush in 2004," said Ralph Reed, chairman of Faith and Freedom Coalition. "That is an astonishing outcome that few would have predicted even a few months ago. But Romney underperformed with younger voters and minorities and that in the end made the difference for Obama."
(Excerpt) Read more at christianpost.com ...
Exit Polls: Obama Gains With Latinos, Romney Gains With Evangelicals
Read more at http://www.christianpost.com/news/exit-polls-obama-gains-with-latinos-romney-gains-with-evangelicals-84574/#eTzf0QwPTpFcgaBO.99
Thanks for posting that. It is exactly how I figured, but there is a bunch of nonsense out there about how Christians refused to vote for a Mormon, so it is all their fault Romney lost. I figured that was bunk.
We are simply outnumbered by ...
* The gimme cult
* The race cult
* The vagina cult
* The sodom cult
* The drug cult
* The entertainment cult
* The cult of Marx
* The democrat cult
It's a formidable coalition that seems to be growing every day.
Well the morons youth & minorities went for ODumbo he got the college students to go out and vote in droves, but they will not have jobs when they graduate, and I hope their parents will not take them in, as they thumb their noses at their parents, take their money, allow them to pay outrageous tuition fees to go to godless colleges where they are brainwashed, and then they think they can take even more advantage of their soft-hearted moms and dads!!! It makes me sick!!!
Sad, but true. :^(
If you're on facebook, I suggest 'liking' the Christian Post for some very insightful reporting from the Evangelical community.
..that sums it up—no other analysis is necessary...
This cannot be true because Romney got 2 million votes less than mccain did.
You seem to have forgotten about the Environmental wacko cult.
> You seem to have forgotten about the Environmental wacko cult.
Indeed! Forgive the omission, and please include them in the list.
Also forgot the labor union cult. It's covered by the cult of Marx, but it's big enough to warrant specific categorization.
The important question is why did Romney get less votes than McCain. Romney would've won if he just got the same votes as McCain. Where did those votes go?
how are we outnumbered??? if Romney got the same number of votes as GWB in '04 then yes, i agree with you...but ayatollah obama didn't even pull in that many votes..
Not sure why it makes any sense to compare the evangelical vote to the youth and minority vote combined. Some are definitely obsessed with voting blocs.
Some of McCain's former voters are deceased, however there supposedly were 10-15 percent of Barack's former fans who turned sour on him and that should have at least equaled the dead GOP voters (unlike Democrats, they don't keep voting from the hereafter).
We eventually warmed up to Mitt here, but ennui continued to reign where it counted.
Nationally just doesn't matter. It was in the KEY STATES that the turnout counted.
Republicans turned out BETTER on Ohio in 2012, than in 2008, by at least 85,000.
Dem turnout was down 15,000.
Its not that Repubs didnt show up in the key states, its that the Dems ground game was far better, despite the Romney Campaigns historic ground game.
USING SOCIAL MEDIA, they were able to round up enough voters to win, in the key ohio counties, in the last few hours.
I can tell you for a FACT that the Romney Campaign thought they had this thing WON about 3PM, based on historic R turnouts, in Ohio.
The bad link says 6 million. It's definitely not 25 million and I doubt it's six million. The environmental evangelicals is probably a pretty small group.
Yes, I know. But I imagine those numbers are dwarfed by those that DID vote for Romney. You could pull that kind of stat with ANY group.
Rosenberg has made a correction-it's 6.4 million, not 25 million.
All we kept hearing throughout the campaign was that youth were not going to turn out for Obama because they had become so disillusioned with him. Yeah, right-—another one of Rove's brilliant voter turnout assumptions.
I think to a degree we were sandbagged.
I picked up NO discernable passion for Obama anwhere out there. Hardly any yard signs even. Obviously in hindsight a deliberate tactic to stay under the radar.
Evidently they have their own closed communication pipeline into minorities and yutes using Twitter or somesuch. I became suspicious when my daughter kept coming home from college asking me "did you hear Obama is going to forgive all our student loans?" Evidently they had a way to circulate that rumor on college campi away from my daily travels.
If he managed to get all their votes anyway without giving them that, either they are dumber or he's an even bigger charlatan than I suspected.
still think only those who pay income taxes should be allowed to vote.
It doesn't boil down to just numbers IMHO. The kind of numbers is what astonishes me. That there are so many , the majority it seems, who are willing to set a match to everything this country stands for, for some short-termed benefit.
You and others do make a good point though about the turnout. The warnings of many, me included, that the GOP Establishment would ruin this election by sending out another moderate-liberal to fight turned out to be true. And maybe the lower turnout is because some folks will never vote for a liberal or a Mormon or a liberal Mormon...
How do we know that the votes of the evangelicals that say they turned out in record numbers were not changed to the votes of the few young people and abortion-supporters who showed up? The polling before-hand showed an enthusiasm gap that supports the evangelicals' claim. The polls that expected an Obama win were based on an even bigger democrat-advantage enthusiasm gap than Obama got in '08, even though the polls said the youth were disillusioned and unenthusiastic. So now the results come in and they contradict what the pollsters had heard before the election and what the evangelicals are claiming about turnout now.
Somebody is lying. Who is more likely to lie - the communist-Islamist media cabal and current administration (considering that both communists and Islamists openly admit that lying is their strategy because the end justifies the means), or the evangelicals who, if they stayed home in protest of the candidate, would actually BOAST of having cost Romney the election, so that the R establishment would hear the very message they were trying to send?
Think about it.
Our students are dumber AND naive...
you've got a 404 error linked- please bring it up and inform me thanks
It was not a bad link, but the original entry has been removed and replaced with a corrected one.
Does anyone have numbers that include ALL the people who claim to be Evangelicals rather than numbers that do not include Black and Hispanic Evangelicals?
amalytical translations - go "Evagelicals", get out there and be MORE evangelical among "the youth and minorities" so YOU bring more of them with you the next time we all get together
The Church Re Elected President Obama
reenysrambles.com ^ | 11/08/2012 | n/a
Posted on Thursday, November 08, 2012 11:43:33 AM by massmike
Yes, you read that title correctly.
In total Obama received more support from religious groups than did Romney, but there are some rather surprising totals in the individual listings. First of all, you have the Catholic vote. As we all know there was a huge issue this year when the Supreme Court ruled on ObamaCare because of the mandate that violated the religious freedom of the Catholic Church. It is against the Catholic teaching to use contraceptives or have an abortion, and within this bill is a mandate forcing Catholic institutions to provide contraceptives and abortificient drugs, within their insurance, to their employees. This was a huge deal, AND YET 50% of the Catholic vote went to him?
Post-election, the propaganda machine is working overtime on payback:
Evangelicals plunge America into darkness mislead polls and stay home on Election Day
The Church Re Elected President Obama
I just noticed Bush won a higher % of Mormons than even Romney did.
And Romney didn't win his home state. And Ryan didn't win his home state either.
Crazy, huh?
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Extremely quiet 55sqm apartment located on the third floor without elevator of a pleasant building of the late nineteenth century. The property consists of a living room with kitchen and a comfortable double sofa-bed, one double bedroom and bathroom. High speed wi-fi internet wi-fi for free
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For check-in later than 8.00pm an extra 10 euros fee will be charged
CHECK-IN: pick up of the keys by our office at the Central Station (where trains and buses from every Milan airport arrive)
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It was a very nice apartment, centrally located and close to Milan historic areas. However, it was unfortunate that there was no air-condition considering that in the summer, Milan is very hot up to 33 degrees celsius. Otherwise, we enjoyed our stay in the apartment. Thanks for allowing us to use your apartment
We stayed from Prague to Milan for 4 giornilo last aprile.Il Mr. Marcello was very helpful with any questions and the master flexible with our orari.L'appartamento is ideal for spending a few days in Milano.Spazioso and cozy with linen clean kitchen attrezzata.Il sofa bed in the living room is comfortable for two people so the apartment can comfortably accommodate 4 persone.La zonaé full of restaurants, bars and very close to the metro port genova.Per the Duomo enough 15 minutes walking through via Torino.Se we get a chance we will still sicuramente.Ringraziamo Marcello for the availability and efficiency.
Abbiamo soggiornato da Praga a Milano per 4 giornilo scorso aprile.Il signor Marcello é stato molto disponibile a qualsiasi domanda e il padrone flessibile con i nostri orari.L'appartamento é l'ideale per passare qualche giorno a Milano.Spazioso e accogliente con biancheria pulita e cucina attrezzata.Il divano letto in soggiorno é comodo anche per due persone quindi l'appartamento può ospitare comodamente 4 persone.La zonaé ricca di ristoranti ,bar e molto vicina alla metro di porta genova.Per raggiungere il Duomo bastano 15 minuti a piedi passando per via Torino.Se ne avremo l'occasione ci torneremo sicuramente.Ringraziamo ancora Marcello per la disponibilitá e l'efficienza.
Very nice apartment, well furnished, big enough for 3-4 people, clean. Good, convenient location. Filiberto is very nice, helpful and accommodating.
Sehr schöne Wohnung, gut möbliert, ausreichend groß für 3-4 Personen, sauber. Gute, verkehrsgünstige Lage. Filiberto ist sehr nett, hilfsbereit und entgegenkommend.
Super nice apartment in a very good area. They were very helpful with everything. Highly recommended, I would come back for sure!!
A charming real Italian stay. It was clean and complete. There was a bedroom with a double bed and a new sofa where our two children slept fine on. Good location, all accessible on foot and by tram. Lots of nice restaurants in the neighborhood.
It is high 3 without lift. Not suitable for the less mobile.
Any other downside is that the dining chairs which were old and saggy.
But that did not detract from a great stay in Milan.
Een charmant echt Italiaans verblijf. Het was schoon en compleet. Er was een slaapkamer met tweepersoons bed en een nieuwe slaapbank waar onze 2 kinderen prima op geslapen hebben. Goede ligging, alles te voet en per tram bereikbaar. Veel leuke restaurantjes in de buurt.
Het is wel 3 hoog zonder lift. Dus niet geschikt voor minder mobiele mensen.
Enig ander minpuntje is dat de eettafel stoelen wat oud en doorgezakt waren.
Maar dat deed niets af aan een super verblijf in Milaan.
Floor good if only it was on the 3rd floor without elevator is a little heavy, but then all good.
El piso si bueno,solo que estaba en el 3 piso y sin ascensor es un poco pesado,pero despues todo bien.
We had a very pleasant stay in Milan. A colleague of Filiberto, Marcello, was very helpful and kind when questions arose. The flat is conveniently located and has everything in it one needs. Perhaps, proper blanket covers could be considered in the future in order to avoid direct physical contact with the duvet. All in all, good value for money and to be recommended.
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