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Skip to comments.'Happy Days' Star: Elmo Creator Has Talent, Ignore Sex Abuse Allegations
Posted on 11/21/2012 1:51:27 PM PST by servo1969
Henry Winkler of "Happy Days" fame is considered one of the nicest people in Hollywood. You don't hear any horror stories about his on-set behavior, and he's managed to leave the iconic Fonzie character behind to play supporting roles in projects like "Arrested Development" and "Here Comes the Boom."
Winkler's reaction to puppeteer Kevin Clash resigning from "Sesame Street" amid allegations the puppeteer engaged in sexual acts with minors hardly seemed in character. In fact, Winkler's comment is downright ugly.
No one is disputing Clash's talents. Just watch last year's documentary "Being Elmo" to marvel at his many gifts. But this is hardly the "end of story."
(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...
Or, for our UK Freepers, the "Savile" Defense.
Sit on it, Henry!
C'mon guys, it wasn't "rape rape" - give "Tickle-Me-Homo" a break!.
Good ol' Fonzie, still able to jump the shark after all these years.
Anything goes as long as that person travels in the right circles.
That is the act of a truly desparate and insecure person.
The hags on the The View seemed to think that just because more accusers are coming forth, he should be given the benefit of the doubt until proven guilty. I don't think they said that about Herman Cain. After all, no liberal could possibly be guily of anything. Just ask the Clintons.
End of story. But not end of sentence. I'd say about 25 years. Sound good, Fonz?
Ugh Oh!... Henrys been into Micheal Jacksons..... "Jesus Juice"..
Pretty much anyone can do what he does, as long as you can do retakes.
Oh come on! Laws are for little people.
Brilliance doesn't excuse molesting children.
Now Frank Oz, that guy has talent, this guy....not so much.
The battle over homosexuality has been won by the other side.
They have now moved on to pederasty.
They will use the same arguments (love, consent, human pleasure, not your concern, our side hates, the Bible is mean and a fantasy, etc.) and in about 15 years, the same Middle America which now can articulate no argument against homosexuality will come to also accept pederasty as healthy, wholesome, normal, and natural.
After that, pedophilia. And then, beastiality.
1960 — no-fault divorce, infidelity are okay,
but homosexuality is disgusting
1990 — homosexuality is okay but pederasty
is disgusting
2030 — pederasty is okay but non-consenting
pedophilia is disgusting
2040 — pedophilia is loving and healthy for
the child, but zoophilia is disgusting
2050 — it feels good and is healthy for both
girl and boy and horse and sheep
Here it comes folks. Can you articulate why sex
inside the faithful marriage under God is the only
acceptable form of sexual practice? Can you articulate
this to the non-believer, using reasoning he will
Then there's Truman Capote's "One Christmas", starring Henry Winkler....
But it wasn't RAPE rape, right, Whoopie?
LMAO; hadn't heard that one before.
Henry is just trying to be ahead of the times. The adult / child taboo is one of the next frontiers they will want to break. Once you believe two males can marry then anything goes. How does a liberal argue for there to be restrictions on actions of two people just because one is a minor?
I was shattered and died a thousand times inside when, as a teenager, I first discovered that my television hero "Fonzie" talked like a sissy and never actually rode his motorcycle. In fact, he was so lame that his motorcycle was a special prop that was pulled by a tow vehicle. Fail of epic proportions!
"BRILLIANT"... as far as gay pedophiles go.
Throw a rock into a pack of dogs, and the one that yelps the loudest is the one that got hit.
Kinda makes you wonder whether all of Fonzie's orgasms were with girls.
You nailed it.
He probably thinks Jerry Sandusky was a brilliant football coach.
Yep.. they think talent excuses bad behavior...
Hollyweird always excuses bad behavior toward minors
Not really a political issue, though.
Yeah, and that Jerry Sandusky was a heck of a coach, too!
You propose to get an unbeliever to accept what the Bible ("just a book") says about what "real people" should do with their lives. Why do you think we've lost and will continue to lose? If you don't care what the Bible says on the subject, then any such counterargument is irrelevant.
I'm sorry, but wiggling your hand around in a glorified sock and talking in a funny voice doesn't fit the definition of brilliant that I'm familiar with.
The words from Kipling
in Gods of the Copybook Headings still apply
Natural Law instructs us well on consequences
...When the Cambrian measures were forming, They promised perpetual peace.
They swore, if we gave them our weapons, that the wars of the tribes would cease.
But when we disarmed They sold us and delivered us bound to our foe,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "Stick to the Devil you know."
...On the first Feminian Sandstones we were promised the Fuller Life
(Which started by loving our neighbour and ended by loving his wife)
Till our women had no more children and the men lost reason and faith,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "The Wages of Sin is Death."
...In the Carboniferous Epoch we were promised abundance for all,
By robbing selected Peter to pay for collective Paul;
But, though we had plenty of money, there was nothing our money could buy,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "If you don't work you die."
Fonz just broke the record for jumping the shark twice. What would he say if his kid was nuzzled by Elmo?
Too bad Sandusky didn't have talent, eh Fonzi? Would that have made it ok? /disgust
I thought reliance on the Savile defence could cause quite a row!
OMG....I LOVED ELmo, but if I saw ELMO again, I would turn off the chnnel or PUKE! Henry, have you no DISCERNMENT??
Henry Winkler is JEWISH.....doubt he;s into Michael Jacksons Jesus Juice!
Henry Winkler is JEWISH.....doubt he;s into Michael Jacksons Jesus Juice!
The battle over homosexuality has been won by the other side.
They have now moved on to pederasty.
I agree with all that you said except your timetable, as I believe all of this will move at a much faster rate.
Here's what someone ought to tweet to Mr. Winkler:
Hey, Henry..If you're such a big believer, invite him over to babysit your kids (or grandchildren)
The hags on The View, like all leftist hags, are total perverts. Whoopie defends rape. They all defended Clinton's abuse of women. That liberals ran as the party protecting the "reproductive rights" of women just shows how demented and vapid the GOP is.
Here the left defends rapists of women and children and they offered getting the government into every woman's womb through Federal control of birth control.
They are going to "progress" to pushing the homo rape of boys first.
[ Henry Winkler is JEWISH.....doubt he;s into Michael Jacksons Jesus Juice! ]
Not all Jews are... you know.... JEWS...
Went over yer head eh!.. Micheal JAckson was not "..black.." either..
I can offer a historical argument.
In the AD 60s the Roman Emperor Nero married another man. He then did it again some years later. This was in a civilized, urban, technologically sophisticated, completely pagan culture where almost anything went theologically and where Christians were not only a minimal factor, they were being fed to the lions.
It didn't catch on. My question to liberals always is...why not? Why did the Empire eventually turn Christian, instead of following in Nero's stead?
I submit because whether people admit or not, whether we can theologically explain it or not, there is *something* inherently self-destructive about homosexuality which ends up collapsing in on itself. *If* it worked, it would have securely established itself all over the world long before now. It hasn't. There is some contrary pressure against it—a pressure that is not rooted in theology but rooted perhaps in human nature itself.
Because a brutal whoreson murderer said so. After which the Roman Empire pretty much turned to crap.
And but for a chance spearthrust during the Battle of Samarra, it might have turned out really differently.
Who, Constantine? It's ridiculous to think that the Empire turned Christian *because* of him. Emperors strted cults all over the place. None stuck except this one. Why? Why did Constantine have this great success and Julian didn't?
Second of all, the Empire had already turned to crap. Christianity managed to salvage what was left of it from the ruins of its own stupidity.
"is was and will continue to be brilliant".....HEEEEEEEYYYYY. Just not around children.
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The Ballad of Bernie Tiede is also a vehicle for Jack Black (who gave Linklater his career performance nine years ago in "School of Rock"). Introduced dressing and grooming a corpse for an audience of would-be morticians, Bernie is the town goody-goody — he literally puts the best face on death while taking it as his mission to comfort the newly bereaved. Elderly women are his specialty, but he nearly meets his match in the person of Carthage's richest, meanest widow, and owner of the local bank, Marjorie Nugent.
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Black's Bernie is a study in bland ambiguity: Christian or con man, straight or gay, gigolo or caretaker, unbelievably sincere or brilliantly duplicitous, hymn-singing hypocrite or scheming Samaritan, Robin Hood or Jack the Ripper? To add to the confusion, Black gets to sing, dance (his "Seventy Six Trombones" is a virtual audition tape) and blubber like a baby. Linklater is less interested in his hero's psychology than that of the town. Just about everyone hated Marjorie and loved Bernie. His trial has to be moved to a hamlet two counties away because the showboat district attorney Danny Buck Davidson (ripely played by Texas native Matthew McConaughey) knows that despite Bernie's tearful confession, he'll never get a conviction — especially since, at least in the movie, one of his most damning lines of questioning concerns the alleged killer's knowledge of the appropriate wine to serve with fish.
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I made several big batches of tomato sauce and canned it.
I canned my spicy mustard zucchini relish.
Pickled some peppers, some green beans, some carrots. Phew! Wiping the sweat from my brow.
The massive yearly lemon harvest has begun.
Planted my fall root vegetable garden.
I'm still harvesting tomatoes, eggplant, chilies, green beans and celery.
Froze two batches of eggplant parm and a large mushroom lasagna with homemade tomato sauce.
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Traditional Chinese medicine (TCM) has proven a cost-effective AIDS treatment that enhances patients' immunity and improves the quality of their lives, a five-year clinical trial has concluded.
A group of 10 practitioners have trekked through remote counties of southwest China's Sichuan province since 2006, providing medicine to more than 300 AIDS patients who were enlisted as volunteers in a research program testing TCM treatment of the incurable disease.
"We have found, after years of research, that traditional herbal medicine proves most effective in the latency period, and its intervention can effectively postpone AIDS outbreak," claimed Zhang Yi, vice president of the Sichuan Academy of Chinese Medicine Sciences, in an interview with Xinhua Tuesday.
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NEW YORK (TheStreet) -- Today's top Apple(AAPL) stories include Steve Jobs helping President Obama, and speculation about weak iPhone 5 sales, despite its rumored 4G capabilities.
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Pack - 3 1/2? O/U 47
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Colts -12 O/U 41
If I had to make a decsion RIGHT NOW I have to take the Pack (is this a sucker bet? Why is it only 3 1/2?)
Dallas should absolutely POUND the Jets, but I hate big spots in the NFL. The rest of the day is screaming tease. I could get the Boys at -8 and the Colts at -6 THAT I think I can deal with.
Good college game tonight too
Usc -3 O/U 49
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by John MacArthur
A primary reason I still preach the Bible is that it alone is God's eternal and divinely empowered message. Thus it is both timeless and truly powerful.
More than four decades of ministry (or any finite number for that matter) could never begin to exhaust its freshness and richness, its depth of teaching, or its ability to impact lives. The Word of God is timeless because its Author is timeless—and no matter how the culture changes, the message of salvation (which is the heart of God's message) never changes.
Scripture is powerful because, unlike self-help programs and man-made solutions which never really get below the surface, the Bible is empowered by God Himself. That's why it is able to transform people in the deepest reaches of their hearts. Hence I preach the Bible because this ancient book, in which the knowledge of God is revealed, contains all that people need for every aspect of life and godliness (2 Peter 1:3). That reality defines true relevance, and that is exactly why Paul told Timothy to preach the Word in season and out of season.
Let's face it—in our generation the Word is "out of season." The market-driven philosophy currently in vogue says that plainly declaring biblical truth is outmoded and ineffective in this climate of postmodernism. Biblical exposition and theology are seen as antiquated and extraneous. "Churchgoers don't want to be preached to anymore," this philosophy says. "Generation Y won't just sit in the pew while someone up front preaches at them. They are products of a media-driven generation, and they need a church experience that will satisfy them on their own terms by giving them what they are used to."
Meanwhile, many influential church leaders insist that Scripture is unclear as to its meaning anyway. They blend, bend, and butcher God's Word to suit their purposes and perspectives. The text doesn't inform their preaching; their preaching informs the text.
We are definitely in an "out of season" time, which is exactly what the Holy Spirit anticipated when He inspired this mandate. But the modern evangelical misunderstanding of this text seems to indicate that many church leaders think it means, "Preach the Word in season, period. And let people tell you when it's in season."
There have always been men in the pulpit who gather crowds because they are gifted orators, interesting storytellers, entertaining speakers, dynamic personalities, shrewd crowd manipulators, rousing speechmakers, popular politicians, or erudite scholars. Such preaching may be popular, but it is not necessarily powerful. No one can preach with power who does not preach the Word. And no faithful preacher will water down or neglect the whole counsel of God. Proclaiming the Word—all of it—is the pastor's calling.
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I think that 2 Pet 1:3 says that it is knowledge of Jesus that gives us everything we need for life and godliness. It is talking about the living Word, who is Jesus, not the written word.
Also when Peter penned these words, the was no written and complied "word" (the Bible).
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I used to congregate in a church were the preacher was respected, he preaches the gospel, and i really believed that i was growing up as a christian, but unfortunately along with the true of God, there were other things, as histories, motivational messages ( in its time i thought that was great to have that in a church ), beautiful music and some kind of "evangelical tradition" as teaching how to speak tongues (angelicals as a private languaje between Holy Spirit and you), although in that place there was not healers, people there used to show admiration for Healers as Cash Luna. It is really sad for me now because I know that there are sincere people there, that really believe that they are following Jesus. I have almost six months without congregating myself and my child there because i asked a pastor to support with the Bible what he said about Healers as Cash Luna and " holy laugh" , he can not do it and also prohibed me to see strange fire conferences . Since i follow your preaching, and read your books i understand better my Bible. I use to attend the live stream of sunday's services and hear grace to you almost everyday as look for your preaching online. I would like to find a congregation of grace community church near from Mexicali, but there isnt. There is a lot of work here, biblical evangelism to do for the God´s Glory. We need more people Preaching the Word instead telling histories, or doing more "evangelical tradition ( as catholic tradition)". Than you, dear Pastor MacArthur, your life is a really bless.
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"Hence I preach the Bible because this ancient book, [b]in which the knowledge of God is revealed[/b], contains all that people need for every aspect of life and godliness"
Ultimately, our knowledge of our Lord comes from His Word, not from what we perceive Jesus to be or other's opinions of Him. Hebrews 4:12 says, "For the Word of God is [i]living[/i] and active". The Word of God is alive through the power of His Spirit. Also, from our Lord Jesus Himself in Matthew 24:35, "Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away." His Words [i]are[/i] Scripture. You cannot seperate our knowledge of Him from our knowledge of His Word.
Steve Carlton,
Dr. MacArthur actually clarified his usage of 2 Peter 1:3 within the sentence which he referenced the verse. He preaches the Bible "in which the knowledge of God is revealed." Thus, Scripture contains all that we need pertaining to life and godliness because it reveals to us all the knowledge of God that He determined we need.
Hope that helps!
And I just found out that I have no "knowledge" of how to bold or italicize in this forum, ha.
Are you saying that it is not possible to have a two way real time conversation with Jesus? I mean, I know He will never say anything to me that contradicts His word, but are you really saying that He can not speak to me and me speak to Him?
Is there a specific verse that says the Bible contains everything about God that He determines I need to know about Him? Again, I know it is my baseline, my ultimate authority and the cornerstone of my Christian walk, but does it say that it contains everything I should seek to know about Jesus? Or about walking in newness of life?
The Truth that is found in the Word of God is complete. That is all that needs to be delivered from the pulpit. Our society has become too consumed with Political Correctness and Tolerance that it has driven preachers to abandoned serious truths of Scripture and the Gospel that are vital in one's walk with The Lord Jesus Christ. There are things that need to be discussed such as sin and the consequences of sin that are not popular but are an integral part of Scripture. To hinder, twist or manipulate Scripture in any way in fear of hurting someone's feelings, is shameful and blasphemous to God. His Word is perfect and complete. Preachers are to deliver the Word, as a waiter delivers the meal. They are not the cooks who prepared the meal.
Many Christians miss out on God encounters because they are satisfied with good theology.
Most of us came to Christ, not as a result of theology, doctrine, knowledge or intellect, but because we had an experience, an encounter, with the risen Christ. For us, this event was, and is, the most profound life-changing thing that has ever happened in our lives. If it was experience and encounter with Christ that formed the pathway to the single largest change we will ever see in our lives, does it make sense that God would then abandon experience and encounter as a primary way that He grows us up in Him?
Why are we so afraid of experience and encounter? Perhaps it is because it is not an exact science, and therefore it is highly subjective and capable of being manipulated by others for their betterment and gain. But to deny the importance of experience and encounter, to eviscerate its permissive use across the board, is to deny the relational nature of God. Intimacy can not be developed solely by reading a book about someone. It comes from time spent hanging out together, from dialog based in transparency and honesty, and from experiencing each other in the midst of life and life situations. It is, in reality, all about experience and encounter.
Freedom is always riskier than captivity. Experience is always riskier than doctrine. Love is always riskier than theology.
Hi Louis. I am not sure if you intended your post as a response to my questions in my earlier post. I will assume that the answer is no.
Is there a verse or verses that say that the Bible contains everything I need to know about God? Are you saying that I should not seek to know anything about God/Jesus that is not in the written Word? If I look at every situation, experience and personal interaction in my life by asking "Jesus, what do you want to show me about You in this?", am I doing something wrong? Is it wrong for pastors to speak about things that are not specifically covered in Scripture?
Hi Steve, God bless you, as you ask for a specific verse here you have:
2 Timothy 3:16-17
21st Century King James Version (KJ21)
16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness,
17 that the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly equipped for all good works.
....Verse 17 saids that The Spcripture equipped the man of God for ALL good works ( that is why we daid that is COMPLETE, it is for ALL good works )
in other hand....about the Bible is closed, her you have other verse:
Revelation 22:18
18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book: If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book.
We just can not said that we are earing words of God out of Scriptures, if you have new revalation ¿ Should we preserve it as the Bible, should we know it? if each person have one fifferent...what can we do with that? is ti all real information from God to us, if that is fact, how can we do this other kind of " revelation from God" to live in obedience to Him?
Thank you for your attention and please forgive my bad english redaction
Steve, here i am again...in your comment number 9, I agree with you about that Crist show as personal characteritics about himself in the way He acts in our lives, so that characteristics are all described in the Bible, it means that the Bible describe God, in all His forms, so if we knows that God is good, we can see His goodness in our lives, if we know by the biblical descrption of God that He is Faitful, we can see His Faitfulness in our daily living...so please see the difference: if we in our personal experience find that God likes to make us laugh without control, as crazy people, we CAN NOT think that we are seeing a personal characteristic of God, because it is not described on the Bible...again, i apologize for me bad redaction in english language...blessings
Let me make an attempt to answer your questions.
Are you saying that it is not possible to have a two way real time conversation with Jesus? Unless you are a prophet or apostle, then yes.
I mean, I know He will never say anything to me that contradicts His word, but are you really saying that He can not speak to me and me speak to Him? It is not a matter of can not (which implies ability), it is a matter of does not (meaning the means he uses is the Word empowered by the Spirit). We can speak to him through prayer. He speaks to us through His Word.
Is there a specific verse that says the Bible contains everything about God that He determines I need to know about Him? Yes. Scripture is sufficient, for example 2 Timothy 3:16-17.
Again, I know it is my baseline, my ultimate authority and the cornerstone of my Christian walk, but does it say that it contains everything I should seek to know about Jesus? Or about walking in newness of life? Yes and Yes.
In your next post you stated, "Most of us came to Christ, not as a result of theology, doctrine, knowledge or intellect, but because we had an experience, an encounter, with the risen Christ." I would suggest that is not entirely correct. We did not have an encounter like Paul did. We came to Christ through the power of the Spirit through the means of someone preaching the truth about our condition, God's righteousness, and the person and work of Christ (Romans 10) from God's Word. Is salvation an experience? Absolutely, but it is one based on God's Word not outside of it.
Why are we so afraid of experience and encounter? We are not afraid of it, but we recognize the true nature of it - it is inferior to revealed truth in God's Word (2 Peter 1:16-21).
Hope this helps.
Steve, in response to your comments and questions:
1. The Scripture speaks clearly concerning its total sufficiency for all matters of faith, life, and practice. In fact that is the exact counsel that Paul gave to Timothy:
"You, however, continue in the things you have learned and become convinced of, knowing from whom you have learned them, and that from childhood you have known the sacred writings which are able to give you the wisdom that leads to salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; so that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work." (2 Timothy 3:14–17)
2. Here is a something helpful John MacArthur said concerning spiritual experiences in a sermon called Does Experience Determine Truth (preached on June 9th, 1991):
"Now, what about experience? Is there such a thing as a true spiritual experience? Sure. A true spiritual experience will be the result of the quickening of truth in the Christian's mind. In other words, the spirit, all of a sudden gives dramatic life to a truth. It does not occur in a mystical vacuum. In an authentic, spiritual experience, there are emotions and feelings and senses and I want you to know that I believe that and I understand that. I have some absolutely exhilarating spiritual experiences. And I have some very difficult experiences; very sad and heart-wrenching experiences. And I'm not talking about an emotional experience or an earthly experience; some kind of worldly thing. I'm talking about a spiritual experience. I have them and I hope you have them. God has given us our emotions so that we can respond to his truth. But I do not have an experience that is godly that leads me to truth in a vacuum. I have an experience in response to truth."
I just want to say that although this is through an electronic format, these are conversations that are an "encouragement to one another", intended to "build each other up" in the the faith. 1 Thes 5:11 I hope to never come across as arrogant or entitled in my own opinion but by God's grace, am striving for a better understanding of His Truth. That truth, sought out in love, is all that matters.
You have asked several good questions and I think these are questions many Christians struggle with. I have, and still do, struggle with these types of questions. I also think Mary and Cameron answered a couple of those questions very well. I kind of wanted to focus on one question because it was directed to me and carries significance in my life and I hope we can both grow through my response. You asked this question, "Are you saying that it is not possible to have a two way real time conversation with Jesus?" As our Lord and Savior, an intimate relationship is what He desires from His followers and conversation is essential to that relationship. In John 10:27, Jesus, after his great teaching on being the Good Shepherd, speaks to the Jews about His sheep knowing His voice and following Him. So, He makes it very clear that He speaks to His followers. But how do I know His voice? I mean, quite honestly, I am almost 32 years old but for the majority of my life, I have filled my head with so much worldly nonsense that this stuff still tries to creep in from time to time. So, how do I really discern when my Lord is speaking to me? There has to be a foundational truth and I know you agree because you said so.
But, I'd like to just share an example from the life of someone who I am very close to and I don't need to share too many details but I think an example such as this is important to this conversation. This individual gave their life to Christ at a young age, helped bring up a family in love and adoration for the Lord, and grew in the Word of God faithfully for many years. However, a bitter and painful divorce (aren't they all?) seemed to consume them and their life turned completely inward towards self. This person maintained that they were still walking with the Lord but the obedience and fruit of the Spirit (Gal 5:22) were clearly missing and again, I don't need to go into details. However, I remember several conversations with this individual regarding hearing Jesus speaking to them about such and such and this and that. I also remember, as a young man (18-19 yrs.), feeling somewhat troubled by these conversations because I didn't hear Him in this way that they described. I had confessed faith in Jesus Christ as a youngster (7 yrs) but had really just began to take an interest in a real relationship with Him. Okay, to the point. Fast-forward 12 years or so and I find out that this person, shortly after the divorce I spoke of, literally threw their Bible in the trash. Everything started to make sense. Con't
Hi, I'm newcomer here. I do really believe that is enough to preach based on the bible. Nothing more important thant that. I believe that people have had strange, beautiful, i could say or think divine experiences, but it really doesn't mean it is enough to affirm is contact with God or Jesus. I respect every body opinions but i'll be firm with John McArthurs "philosophy" of preaching the Word of God from the Bible. (English is not my maternal language)
con't.......This person was not engaged in corporate worship with the Body of Christ (Heb 10:24-25), was not seeking His Truth through His Word in the manner of reverence and obedience (John 14:23) but had very realistically sought personal experience and encounter as their own sort of truth in whatever they felt Jesus speaking to them about. Honestly, after witnessing the regression into self that this person took, this information didn't surprise me much.
My purpose in this probably longer-than-needed-to-be story was not to drag this person, (who again, is very close to me and who I love dearly) through the mud. I have had several very good conversations with them regarding this after much prayer, seeking wisdom and direction from the Lord. My purpose is ultimately to glorify God and possibly help strengthen a brother or sister who may have wrestled or are wrestling with similar questions.
We cannot be certain we are hearing our Lord's voice if we are not actively and obediently following His Word. The more desire and love that we have for His Word, the more intimate our relationship with Him becomes as we grow in sanctification. Dr. MacArthur wrote a very good article in 2012 on Biblical Sanctification:
In His love,
Would you please define the words, "experience" and "encounter" more precisely for me? I am really at a loss to understand what you mean when you use them in relation to Christ.
Another question I have related to your post is this. If you received a letter from someone you had never verbally spoken to or physically seen, would it still be possible to build relationship on the basis of communication using written language, possibly even intimate understanding?
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At the time of the Domesday Survey the manor of Winslade was held by Hugh de Port, and remained with his descendants for centuries. In 1562 the manor was sold to William, Marquis of Winchester, and William's descendants, the Dukes of Bolton, played a prominent part in the life of the village. In the seventeenth century Hackwood House was built for the first Duke of Bolton, and since then Hackwood Park has been Winslade's chief claim to fame. The original building has been considerably extended and altered, and in days gone by the big house provided employment for many of the villagers.
The manor of Kempshott in the parish of Winslade had one particularly notable owner in Robert Pincke DD, who became Warden of New College, Oxford, in 1617. He was held in great esteem by James I for his skill in argument, and his loyal conduct during the Civil War earned him the gratitude of Charles I. Pincke raised the University Militia and encouraged the somewhat unwilling inhabitants of Oxford to take up arms for their king. He later fell into the hands of the Roundheads and was imprisoned for a short time, but was released on bail and died soon after.
The thirteenth century Church of St. Mary the Virgin was rebuilt in the nineteenth century at the expense of Lord Bolton, but a few mediaeval features remain.
Further information on attractions to discover in the area and other interesting villages to visit is available. For information on public services for Winslade please take a look at the Basingstoke local pages.


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Condition: 10/10, I am the original owner and I've used it a handfull of times.
Born date: 06/08 - Five year hydro.
Re-test date: 06/13 Five year hydro.
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Asking Price: $150 OBO I want a 68.
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Trades of interest: Ninja or GA 68/45. Bring them to me!!
Location of item: Odessa, Texas.
What is Included: Tank, Reg, Tank cover, Thread saver
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