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Questions That Need Answers: Second Edition
Jason Gregor
February 23 2009 02:59PM
Based on the amount of questions I got last week, QTNA will now involve questions from the readers as well as my own. If you have any send them to email@example.com.
The Boston Bruins had ten 20-goal scorers one season, and right now the Oilers don't have one. Are the Oilers the least talented offensive team in the league?
When you scan rosters around the league, the Oilers' proven scoring is near the bottom. Right now only Minnesota, the Rangers and the Islanders don't have a 20-goal man. The Wild's best player, Marian Gaborik, has been out all year, the Islanders are horrendous and the Rangers have overpriced UFAs taking up lots of ice time.
But after looking down the line-ups of other teams, outside of the Islanders and the Wild, it is fair to say the Oiler forwards have to be considered one of the least offensively productive groups in the league. The Predators have scored 23 fewer goals as a team, so they are in the mix as well, but Arnott and Dumont have produced more goals than any Oiler forward.
The Wild have scored fewer goals as a team, but they don't get anything from their backend. Their top six scorers are all forwards. At some point, the Oiler forwards have to start to score, otherwise they will only be "paper-prospects."
When was the last time a non-playoff team had the top two regular season scorers? (Malkin and Crosby) -- Sheldon
Originally people said this never happened, but after some research, in fact it has happened once before.
In 1949:
- Roy Conacher 1st: 68 pts in 60 games Doug Bentley 2nd: 66 pts in 58 games
Both played for Chicago which finished fifth out of six teams... So they're the only two that have ever done it, but no tandem has done it since expansion in 1967.
The closest was 1969:
Bobby Hull 2nd and Stan Makita 4th both from Chicago who finished last in 1969.
In 1994 Gretzky finished first in scoring but the Kings missed the playoffs. His teammate Luc Robitaille finished 14th with 96 points.
In 2002 Jarome Iginla led the league in scoring, but the Flames finished 11th in the West. Fellow Flamer Craig Conroy finished 12th that year.
Is Europe or the Leafs the bigger coach killer?
Tom Renney became the second coach to get fired after a loss to the Maple Leafs this season, when he and his assistant Perry Pearn were given pink slips this morning. Michel Therrien got the boot from Pittsburgh after losing to the Leafs.
Losing to the Leafs must be the final measuring stick for Eastern teams.
And all four of the coaches whose teams started this campaign in Europe have now been fired. Renney, Therrien, Craig Hartsburg and Barry Melrose have all been canned after playing two games in Europe. Sorry Oilers fans, the Oil aren't scheduled to start the season overseas next year.
Who do you think has been the Oilers best draft pick in the last 10 years excluding Hemsky? -- Ken
Great question, and there is no name the jumps out right away. Horcoff was drafted in 1998 so that is outside of the last 10 years.
Within the last 10, I would say Mike Comrie. Whether you like him or not, for a third-round pick he's been a pretty decent scorer. He's the only draft pick to have two 30-goal seasons.
The next best would be Jarret Stoll, second round 2002, and Andrew Cogliano who will average 18 goals a year in his first two years. It's clear they haven't drafted any top-end talent outside of Hemsky in the last 10 years, or at least any talent that has panned out.
When will Pisani return, and when he does where do you see him playing? -- Alan
Spoke with Pisani this morning and he is scheduled for another MRI on Friday. If the middle of the bone has healed enough he should get clearance for the game on March 3rd against Nashville.
He will slot in with Moreau and Cogliano. Even though Stortini has been one of the hottest Oilers of late, Pisani will slot back into his usual third line RW position. There has been lots of speculation that when he returns the Oilers might move Pouliot. I still doubt MAP could net much in return, but I wouldn't be surprised if he gets moved.
What is the Oilers biggest weakness that realistically Tambellini/Lowe can fill before the deadline? -- Chris from Clareview
First off Chris, congrats on admitting you are from the northside. It takes courage.
Denis Grebeshkov has resumed skating and it looks like he might return within a week, so that should allow Tambellini to focus on what they really need: scoring.
Getting a left winger for Hemsky is the most pressing need, but also the hardest. Right now I think they will settle for a productive and consistent second liner. The current "second line" has two players with less than ten goals, Nilsson (7) and Gagner (6). They need secondary scoring just as much as they do a top line LW. And it will be easier to acquire a guy with 17-20 goals than it will getting a proven 30-goal man.
Do guys go to Oscar parties like women attend Super Bowl parties?
Super Bowl and Grey Cup parties have been a staple for many years, and non-sports fans have continually attend them. Lately Oscar parties have become more popular, but I've never gone to one and I can't see why I would in the future.
I watch movies regularly, but I could care less who wins Best Actor or Actress. Did you notice that all the best Actress nominees came from "chick flick" type of films? The only reason most guys watch is to see the women's attire. Outside of best picture, director, actor, actress and the supporting actor or actress, does anyone really care about best costume design?
You will never catch me attending an Oscar party.
Why do guys change their facebook relationship status from single to "it's complicated" and vice versa?
I know this has nothing to do with sports, but it's my biggest pet peeve. Girls do this because their friends will comment with remarks like "keep your head up," or "It's his loss." I can understand that they are looking for comfort. But guys? Do you actually think your buddy is going to write anything consoling or that we are even interested?
My buddy actually announced his engagement was off via his relationship status last week. He went from engaged to single, and of course ten different girls chimed in with some comment designed to cheer him up. No guys replied, and why would we?
First off, if my fiancé dumped me or me her, I don't think I'd be posting it on Facebook a day after it happened. Seriously guys, I think I speak for other guys when I say stop posting that garbage. Sure, if she left you for another guy we feel your pain, and will promise to get you bombed the next day. Hell, we will sacrifice a head-pounding, barf-at-lunch hangover on Tuesday if that's what it takes to help you out.
But expecting some sort of pat-on-the-back comment on Facebook is out of the question. FIGURE IT OUT.
Have you actually met Wanye Gretz and do you know if he is single? I think he is so funny and I bet he is hot. -- Allison
For the record I didn't make up this question. I replied to Allison and she confirmed it was for real. I included this query for a few reasons. It shows the major difference between guys and girls. She admits she hasn't seen Wanye and based his hotness on his ramblings, so she is going on wit and personality. Guys, we are shallow. We go for looks first, second and third.
I have met Wanye a few times, and plead the fifth regarding his looks. I can admit that Brad Pitt is hot, it's not hard to see that, but in most cases I think guys have no clue if another guy is hot. Wanye is currently looking, but for what exactly I'm not sure.
But Allison there is one rule. I would never set up a buddy without seeing a picture of the girl that wants to meet him, and most guys won't consider it without seeing the potential prospect. So if you or any other ladies are interested in Wanye include a picture in your email. I will gladly pass those to Sir WG.
Let's face it there is going to be lots of 'splainin' to be done with contracts like Horcoff's multiplying before our very eyes to something over 6 mil.with his lame-ass production. If Horc thinks the fans have not been in his corner up to now what happens when he is getting the really big bucks next year and mails it in. He's got the big contract but if he doesn't produce I know Oiler fans are going to eat his lunch. He's never been a consensus favourite here. He's got a long way to go in my opinion to prove he's worth it. Some of the other KLowe overpaid deals like Pisani have a year to go I think. It's going to be a year or two before we can get clear of some of these tweener players with the not-so-tweener contracts.
MacT. just has to go before they trade away any more players who can be redeemed and fit within a properly coached system. I never thought KLowe and MacT could ever be anything but good for the team, organization and everything. Man was I wrong!!
W.T. wrote:
W.T. hears Atlanta and Oilers are deep in talks. Horcoff,Cole and Smid for Kovalchuk and Marty R. Marty R was compared to Joe Sakic by MacT and he will be first line center.
Man ....Is all that sour gas that that is commming out of your mouth giving you memmory loss. You burped that out yesterday and when you were asked the source you went away.It is one thing to listen to your pollution but REPEAT POLLUTION!!! pretty brutal. W-aste of T-ime..or sorry W.T.
February 23 2009, 11:26PM
To set the record straight, facebook announces that stuff, whether you want it to or not (unless there's some setting I haven't heard of) Take it from me, just never touch that relationship button in the first place. On the plus side, the women do come out of the woodwork...
Who's the worst G.M ? 1) Bryan Murry...amongst his other great deals the last one is the best. Trading for Comrie, giving up a first round pick ) and then going to sell, rebuild mode.
2) Oilers Management(LOWE) after having a successful run at the end of last year a mirror to Chicago, and yes the edm. media mirrored them. Chicago realizes at the begging of the year that a coaching change needed to be made. While the Oilers after thier 20, 40, games are still assessing and now have no identity. but they did get rid of the "3 headed monster" now no rest for Roli.
Bruno wrote:
W.T. wrote: W.T. hears Atlanta and Oilers are deep in talks. Horcoff,Cole and Smid for Kovalchuk and Marty R. Marty R was compared to Joe Sakic by MacT and he will be first line center. Man ….Is all that sour gas that that is commming out of your mouth giving you memmory loss. You burped that out yesterday and when you were asked the source you went away.It is one thing to listen to your pollution but REPEAT POLLUTION!!! pretty brutal. W-aste of T-ime..or sorry W.T.
Man even I got that sarcasm
You Oiler fans need to realize that as long as Lowe is in charge you will have a 7-13 team. After a win your all happy like you won the cup, CLAP CLAP , one game at a time will be the new moto. or some 80's song that the Regime thinks of. These players if moved at the deadline, excluding Cole, a different coach can get way more out of this team, Hemsky has stalled in this enviroment, Gagner has has reversed, Cole... poor guy, You know his story, And where is this "center from a different organization which they have good luck in making a true NHL center?...Oilers words about Brule. Lowe is the problem all regins must be given to Tambo, and that includes axing MacT Now, that way the new team can go into next season know what to expect. We are not going to do anything this year at least let it be a good sacrifice for next year!
TSN13 wrote:
You Oiler fans need to realize that as long as Lowe is in charge you will have a 7-13 team. After a win your all happy like you won the cup, CLAP CLAP , one game at a time will be the new moto. or some 80's song that the Regime thinks of. These players if moved at the deadline, excluding Cole, a different coach can get way more out of this team, Hemsky has stalled in this enviroment, Gagner has has reversed, Cole… poor guy, You know his story, And where is this "center from a different organization which they have good luck in making a true NHL center?…Oilers words about Brule. Lowe is the problem all regins must be given to Tambo, and that includes axing MacT Now, that way the new team can go into next season know what to expect. We are not going to do anything this year at least let it be a good sacrifice for next year!
Just by you sayin"you oilerfans" with a combined name of TSN13 gives me a vision of your leaf jersey.Or your undercover flames jersey. So your knowledge is limited. If you think a G.M. like tambo is going to play as Lowes puppet I dont think your giving Tambo enough credit. Im sure he has control of what he wants to do,But might have trouble doing it in this "New N.H.L" And , as much as change would be apreciated here by many fans I dont think that making that change in the middle of a playoff hunt would not be a smart decision. And when Fans or in your case Non-Fans say we should fire the coach , follow that up with a sollution and a coach that You believe would work here because pointing out problems are easy.
February 24 2009, 08:42AM
chicksdigoil wrote:
You guys are great, and thankfully you haven't mocked the few women on here…Thanks…
We're all skeptics and figure it's actually JeanShorts or BaggedMilk with a fake name.
W.T. continues to appreciate the educated fan speaking their mind. TSN 13 appears to have it right according to W.T.. Ottawa and Edmonton, sports reporters get the giggles when these two teams are mentioned.
W.T. is set to watch the game on his SlingBox tonight. Should be Oiler hockey as Tampa Bay plays a very high tempo game.
W.T. is wondering who the Oiler goalie for next year and the year after is going to be. Roli has moved his family back East last year, Oil traded away probably their best goalie to Pitt. as the organization had no faith in him, and JDD is ready to be a starting goalie night in and night out? Nice work KLowe, you really thought that out didn't you?
W.T. wishes nothing but the best for Bruno as by the comments he posts, he is going to need all the help he can get. May your higher power that you believe in helps you. Hope you don't miss too many Sunday's
W.T is wondering where he put his medication.
W.T. is lonely. W.T. wishes he had a friend.
W.T. thinks that if he talks on here and people say something back, that will be like having a friend. W.T. doesn't mind if they say bad stuff. W.T. thinks negative attention is way better than no attention. W.T. likes to pretend to be smart. Then W.T. can have smart friends.
W.T. is going to go write his name on his own picture a hundred times now and hang it next to all the rest of them in his bedroom.
February 24 2009, 09:01AM
Jason Gregor wrote:
Trading Roloson now means, that either Deslauriers become the guy or they sign a goalie. I think Roloson/JDD combo is a safer bet, than Deslauriers/???.
Isn't Roloson/Deslauriers still an option for next year even if they do trade him, or does dealing Roli at the deadline mean burning bridges in terms of signing hima s a UFA?
Chris wrote:
APE - FMNF wrote: What about Cogliano? Are you kidding? 29 ponts in 59 games. (Tied for 178th in the league) This is NOT top end talent. Cogliano is a small, soft, player with hands of stone… If he was a top end player… wouldn't he be playing with Hemsky?
I think that what is meant by top end talent is a top six forward, and I think Cogliano will be a 50-60 pt kind of guy for his career so that qualifies. He plays hard and makes it exciting with his speed.
I agree with you that he is not a first line kind of guy. He doesn't have hands of stone, though. He is no Hemsky, but he's good for twenty a year. That particular moniker (stone hands) once applied to Buchberger, and if I had to apply it to a current Oiler I would probably pick Strudwick.
There is an even bigger problem in Oil Country: Nilsson and Gagner. Everyone has been so busy ripping on Horcoff that they have failed to notice that Horc has more points than Gagner and Nilsson combined. When 2/3rds of your second line is on pace for a ten goal season you know your franchise is going nowhere. Fancy stick tricks after practice don't qualify as high skill, or talent, if you can't do sh!t during a game! Hemsky, the D, and an aging goalie will only carry this team so far.
I agree with you. I think Horcoff has been playing much better the last 30 games or so. If he keeps it up the contract doesn't look sooo bad.
On the other hand, what is with Gagner. He is always getting pushed off the puck like a ragdoll. He is not a goal scorer despite his stickhandling ability, but if he can't hang on to the puck he can't be a playmaker either. I think he has the skill to be an 80 pt guy (he got 49 at the age of eighteen), but he has to get stronger in the body.
And Nilsson... the skill is there and when he decides to play he is awesome to watch, just like Penner. We jsut need to keep them motivated somehow, and I don't have an answer for that.
Cam wrote:
And Nilsson… the skill is there and when he decides to play he is awesome to watch,
This sounds like Torres. Only Torres actually put up numbers when he was playing well... Nilsson hasn't put up numbers at all... Stortini is closing in!
W.T. wrote:
W.T. wishes nothing but the best for Bruno as by the comments he posts, he is going to need all the help he can get. May your higher power that you believe in helps you. Hope you don't miss too many Sunday's
And best wishes to you and please Sir or Miss take your Meds they will help you .And put your outside voice away. We should not hear that.......Drive safe......
February 24 2009, 09:59AM
Facebooked wrote:
To set the record straight, facebook announces that stuff
No they don't. You choose your own relationship status. Don't pretend that it changed itself. Sorry dude, that just isn't true. Mike Krushelnyski wrote:
Isn't Roloson/Deslauriers still an option for next year even if they do trade him, or does dealing Roli at the deadline mean burning bridges in terms of signing hima s a UFA?
They could be like the St. Louis Blues and trade a guy and then resign him in the summer. I don't think it would mean burning a bridge at all. It is an interesting idea, but if they trade Roloson, to me that shows they are officially sellers, and that means the beginning of the end for their coach. I just can't see that happening in this fashion. That would go against everything the organization has done in the past...I.E. Loyalty.
February 24 2009, 10:01AM
Here's a question that needs to be answered: Are there any line combinations that MacT has NOT pulled out this year? Maybe we should explore those.
February 24 2009, 10:08AM
Jason Gregor wrote:
That would go against everything the organization has done in the past…I.E. Loyalty.
Umm....Ryan Smyth?
February 24 2009, 10:12AM
@ Cam: So because our sophmores are struggling that means they don't have talent? C'mon man.
And about Cogs not playing with Hemsky, do you actually think the would play him or Gagner over Horcoff? I sure don't. Not for the time being anyway.
Not every player is able to step into the league and put up numbers like Ovy or Sid but that doesn't mean they aren't top end talent.
was it you that asked the question to MacT with inaccurate stats?
February 24 2009, 10:30AM
Now this is commitment! "we feel your pain, and will promise to get you bombed the next day. Hell, we will sacrifice a head-pounding, barf-at-lunch hangover on Tuesday if that's what it takes to help you out."
And here I thought I was the only one who wakes up the next day with the migraine like headache, followed by the nauseau, which leads to the inevitable stomach dumping to the point where yellow stuff (i've always assumed it was stomach acid) is all that is left to be thrown up, which at the end, leaves me in a contorted cold sweaty mess on my bathroom floor. From there I hike back to bed, with a cold-wet cloth to drape over my eyes and forehead, while I try to fall asleep while technicolor spirals appear before my closed eyes which then lead me to flashback snippets (or are they dreams/nightmares?) of what may or may not have happened the night before.
So yeah, if I'm goin on a banger to help out a depressed buddy then that guy better know damn well that I FEEL HIS PAIN!
February 24 2009, 10:31AM
Jason Gregor wrote: It is an interesting idea, but if they trade Roloson, to me that shows they are officially sellers, and that means the beginning of the end for their coach. I just can't see that happening in this fashion. That would go against everything the organization has done in the past…I.E. Loyalty.
Ah yes, the famous loyalty to anyone with friends in high places that has brought so much success over the last decade. I know you're not trying to justify it, you're just telling how it will go down - and now that I think about it you're probably right. We'll hang on to our most valuable assets and get nothing in return for them just so Lowe can be really sure that he has no choice but to fire his buddy. I guess this was MacT's first season with any accountability - the first 8 were just practice.
The best part is when we do miss the playoffs and fail to get any help for the future, there will be no mea culpa from the orginization. The blatant nepotism that is running this team into the ground will be answered with the standard "F*ck you, we're the only game in town. Don't like it? Go watch the Drillers." Remember when you said we would compete for the division this year? Oh you meant we would be mediocre at best and that season ticket prices would go up again? Sorry, our mistake.
Loyalty? Sure, for some. Loyalty to the fans? Hell no.
February 24 2009, 10:38AM
He asked if MacT could take his shirt off during the interview.
Jason Gregor wrote:
They could be like the St. Louis Blues and trade a guy and then resign him in the summer. I don't think it would mean burning a bridge at all. It is an interesting idea, but if they trade Roloson, to me that shows they are officially sellers, and that means the beginning of the end for their coach. I just can't see that happening in this fashion. That would go against everything the organization has done in the past…I.E. Loyalty.
What about Roloson and Cole (+pick or prospect) to a playoff-ish team for a young or average goaltender and a young top six forward? I'm thinking maybe Philly, Sabres, Montreal or Pittsburgh - someone on the cusp of the playoffs or making a push since they are both UFAs this summer. The drop off from Roli to a Halak or a Biron type isn't that much (or anything) and could be worth it if you can get someone back who can score 20 goals. The Oil still have a longer term issue to deal with in net, but they are going to have that anyway, even if they do sign Roli this summer. I'm not sold at all on JDD and need to see Dubnyk before I pass judgment there.
My hope is the Oiler management takes advantage of the panic at the deadline and make some moves that help in the medium and long term, while other teams are focused on the short term.
Sam gagner is 285th overall and 224th in scoring amoung forwards. Nilsson is is 252nd and 197th amoung forwards. (Top 6 forwards X 30 teams= 180) These guys must be the absolute bottom producing top 6 forwards to have played 50 or so games. Top End Talent? The debate should be centered around whether or not these guys are the WORST forwards in the NHL to be put in a scoring role!
Is Kyle Brodziak Top End Talent? He's bigger. He wins faceoffs. Kyle skates well, and has similar point totals despite more limited ice time. I don't consider Kyle to be "top end", but it's a lot easier to make a case that he is compared to the other two. Cam wrote:
I think that what is meant by top end talent is a top six forward, and I think Cogliano will be a 50-60 pt kind of guy for his career so that qualifies
Cogliano is not a top six forward even on this desperate lowly Oilers roster. Radek Dvorak had speed to burn and put up numbers similar to Cogliano while in Oilers Silks... Was he your idea of top end talent? We are overvaluing our assets. Other GM's may be interested in guys like Cogs, or Gags... but I bet they aren't offering much of a return.
February 24 2009, 11:28AM
Jason Gregor wrote:
No they don't. You choose your own relationship status. Don't pretend that it changed itself. Sorry dude, that just isn't true.
Yes dude that is true. Like if your status is "married" and your spouses status is "married". Well if she takes her status from "married" to "single", your status is automatically set to "single"
February 24 2009, 11:43AM
@ oilfan4life:
No, it will still say "married" just not "married to X"
February 24 2009, 11:43AM
@ Chris: Ok you are right. Every player in the NHL should be living up his potential every single night or else they suck. I get it.
February 24 2009, 11:44AM
I may be a total idiot saying this but I'm gonna mention it anyways. What if we let Erik Cole go at the deadline (for whatever we can get back) and we traded Visnovsky for Ryan Smyth? Lubo and Smyth will make approx. the same over the next few years. You get a natural left winger to go on a line with Hemmer and Horcs and they have had chemistry in the past, plus it feeds into the org's need for nepotism.
Cole UFA 4 Million Visnovsky 7 next year, 6 year after, 5 year after, 3 year after that
Smyth 6.5 next year, 5.5 year after, 4.5 year after that
This would put Penner on the second line with the kids. I'd ship out one of the kids at the deadline or sometime this or next year.
3rd line is solid with Pisani. Moreau and Brodz. Leaving the 4th for Storts and the assorted call up filler.
In regards to losing Vis on the back end, we will still have Souray, Gilbert, Staios and Peckman. We would now have money to sign Grebs & Smid or land another decent top 4 defenseman especially if we move one of the kids.
I'm thinking Nilsson would be the natural move as he is making 2 million next year compared to Cogs & Gags at 0.85 million and 0.95 million respectively.
Here's a points breakdown... 03/04 05/06 06/07 07/08 08/09 Horc - 40 73 51 50 41 Hem - 34 77 53 71 51 Penr - 7 (19g) 45 47 29 Smyt- 61 66 68 37 49 Visn - 29 67 58 41 31 Gilb - 33 34 Greb - 18 25
@ Robin B: Exactly. The Oilers got burned years ago when they did not trade Cujo when they had the chance and got nothing in return.
Ideally, you do not want to trade a player that can help you in the playoffs, but if you are on the bubble like the Oilers are (same as every other year), I think it makes sense to get something in return that will help the club down the road. Or, package Cole and another player and/or young prospect(s) and/or pick(s) to get a scorer that will help them now.
Do something....anything, but don't let him walk for nothing!
What is this "every night" thing? I gave them 50 games to show me somthing sans criticism. Is 10 years a more acceptable time frame? Or maybe Tambellini needs to re-evaluate what these guys truly bring to this organization. Fact is, Nilsson, Cogliano, and Gagner are small, soft, minus players whose production levels are easily replaced. They don't win faceoffs, they don't compete consistantly, or bring any noticble dimension to their game. The team is in another losing streak; Gagner is pointless again for as long as I can remember; and yet we celebrate Gagners "intensity" when he gets beat up! It's embarrassing. Gagner is so easily moved off the puck that he will not be a legitimate playmaker for years and years... and face it: he doesn't have a high end NHL shot! Please guys show me anything to make me believe that last years stretch run drive was something more than a fluke!
February 24 2009, 01:13PM
oilgirl wrote:
jeanshorts….i'd do ya, you're almost as funny as WG
Bend over and get ready for a peggin' JS.
February 24 2009, 01:25PM
@ Chris: All I mean is you don't give up on first round picks because they are struggling at age 19.
February 24 2009, 01:26PM
Jason Gregor wrote:
Facebooked wrote:
To set the record straight, facebook announces that stuff No they don't. You choose your own relationship status. Don't pretend that it changed itself. Sorry dude, that just isn't true. ---------
Yeah, if you touch that button, facebook announces it, for sure.
What I'm saying is: don't touch that button.
It's not like typing in your status for everyone to hear about - that you do on purpose. Give us non-tech guys a break, Gregor. Geez.
But the point still stands: lots of women result- that sort of makes up for the jeers of your buddies.
APE - FMNF wrote:
All I mean is you don't give up on first round picks because they are struggling at age 19.
I've covered this. Read Comment #49. Chris wrote:
Oh… and I don't want to hear about how young Nilsson and Gagner are! This is the big league. If you are not ready to produce here; you shouldn't be here.
I never said "give up" on Gagner. Sam is a prospect who is being mis-managed. The Oilers shouldn't be playing Gagner in such an important role. (Or at all) We need more than 6 goals every 53 games from a guy getting 15+ sheltered minutes a night. The Oilers are killing Gagner the same way Columbus killed Brule... and killing our playoff chances at the same time!
February 24 2009, 02:48PM
@ Chris: I'll agree to that but they can't send Gagner down to the AHL if I recall so what do they do with him? It's no good for him to play on any line past the second not too mention he is too small and weak at this point to play in that role. So really the only choice they have is to let him battle and gain experience from it.
@ APE - FMNF: This all goes back to the stupidity of letting Smyth go and the resulting 20 game slide. Remember the desperation of that offseason? Nylander, The RFA offer sheets, and the decision to risk the development of your best teenage prospect by pushing him into NHL action prematurly?... You're right. There is no good way to handle Sam now. Mistakes have been made... It's better luck than good management that Gagner hasn't been seriously injured. As it stands, Gagner has lost all confidence in his shot. He doesn't thread the needle anymore with his passing for fear of dreaded turnovers... And he is too damn young to be here or even be sent down! Is Sam "Top End" talent? I don't know anymore. Oilers managemnt rarly drafts the best available prospect... And they certainly aren't adept at developing them either!
February 24 2009, 04:53PM
Well I agree with everything you've said now. He has a good head on his shoulders I hope he can bounce back.
February 24 2009, 09:08PM
Bruthah wrote:
We're all skeptics and figure it's actually JeanShorts or BaggedMilk with a fake name.
I am 100% female...The only thing I have in common with those two is that all three of us pee sitting down. It isn't just guys who read this...sorry if we are invading you realm, but some girls do like the Oil.
Facebook is for people who need validation.
Here's the way it works.
I'll put pictures up of my wife, kids and house and you'll tell me how nice it all looks. Then I'll comment likewise on your pictures and we'll all go to bed happy.
It's Warholian and it's Reality Internet for those that don't get to go on reality TV.
other than that, it's great!
February 25 2009, 02:11AM
And opining on it on a comment board isn't...
not when you're not comparing pictures and inane daily activities, no.:)
February 25 2009, 03:41PM
Whatever gets you through the night...


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Girls at Work builds able young woman teaching woodworking
GOFFSTOWN - Elaine Hamel is convinced that amazing things happen when troubled young girls get hold of power tools.
That's the notion that underscores her efforts as executive director of Goffstown-based Girls at Work, a nonprofit organization that empowers at-risk girls and teenagers by teaching them woodworking skills and how to safely use power tools in a team setting.
"To be able to turn them around so that they see themselves as capable, as smart, as powerful - that's just worth a million bucks to me," Hamel said. "So many of these kids have had adults in their lives who've failed them, so to get these kids to feel better about themselves is just so important."
Recently, she delivered her message to staff members of the Greater Manchester Chamber of Commerce, who spent an afternoon at the Girls at Work barn in Goffstown in a team exercise called Corporate Build that had them constructing a picnic table from scratch using power tools.
"We take the exact same program that we do with the girls and apply that to the professional adults," said Hamel. "We give them these puzzle pieces, and I give them time to feel just how out of their element they are."
And then Hamel lets the adults talk about their feelings - of inadequacy, frustration, even fear.
"Then I tell them that the girls in our program struggle with those feelings all the time," she said. "I think they're starting to understand how important it is to get these kids to feel better about themselves."
Gemma Waite French, vice president of public relations and marketing for the Greater Manchester Chamber of Commerce, said she understands where Hamel is coming from.
"We really had to step outside of ourselves and our day-to-day thinking," French said. "We had to figure it out on our own. We walked in there with a pile of wood and we walked away with a beautiful picnic table. It was a very empowering experience."
French said the picnic table currently sits in the Greater Manchester Chamber's lobby on Hanover Street.
Although the staff hasn't decided what to do with it, there's talk of auctioning it off and donating a portion of the proceeds to Girls at Work.
For Hamel, the process of building something is not about getting the girls to enter the construction industry.
"It's about getting them to apply their inner power tools," she said.
And mastering power tools, Hamel explains, is just an outward manifestation of the confidence building that goes on inside a young person's mind.
And while Girls at Work focuses on at-risk females, Hamel also sees the same confidence building going on in the attitudes of men who have no experience or background working to build something with their hands.
"Ironically, people think men just automatically know how to build," said Hamel. "This whole gender issue needs to be moved aside. It's not about being stronger; it's about working harder and working smarter."
Girls at Work is hoping to build relationships with other nonprofits through the Corporate Build program.
"We can go anywhere to set up shop," said Hamel. "We're really hoping the Corporate Build takes off."
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2013 Nissan Altima Selected as a Top Vehicle for Commuters by AAA Auto Buying Experts
FRANKLIN, Tenn.– Earlier today, AAA announced the 2013 Nissan Altima has been honored as one of the 11 vehicles selected to the AAA "Top Vehicles for Commuters" list. Adding to its already impressive list of awards received this year, the Altima was one of five sedans chosen based on fuel efficiency, comfort and performance.
According to AAA, the redesigned Altima "Continues to be a top choice for commuting. It is comfortable for all passengers, performs well and offers several unique safety features."
Each year, AAA Auto Buying experts test drive and evaluate hundreds of vehicles to reveal the year's top vehicles. Compact vehicles, sedans, crossovers and minivans were all considered for this year's honor.
Al Castignetti, vice president, Nissan Division, said: "In the 20 years since its introduction to the market, we have sought to make the Nissan Altima one of the elite sedans of its class. This honor from AAA solidifies Altima's place as one of the top selling midsize sedans in the United States and a leading contender in the category."
Among the 2013 Altima's many attributes are a best-in-segment fuel economy of 38 mpg highway* (2.5-liter engine), new premium exterior styling with a strong presence and excellent aerodynamics, an upscale interior with premium materials, and an outstanding balance of ride comfort, stability and a fun-to-drive demeanor.
Building on Nissan's "Innovation that Excites" philosophy, the fifth-generation Altima also offers standard Bluetooth® Hands-Free Phone System and Streaming Audio via Bluetooth®. Also available are NissanConnectSM and NissanConnectSM Navigation with a suite of Bluetooth® phone connectivity features including hands-free text message integration, Pandora® playback, real-time Google® POI search and more; along with Easy-Fill Tire Alert and next-generation Safety Shield Technologies; including Blind Spot Warning (BSW), Lane Departure Warning (LDW) and Moving Object Detection (MOD) systems.
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Fresh and clear Hummingbird nectar. Make your own at home by mixing 4 parts boiled water to 1 part white sugar, and don't use red dye, it's not necessary, and why add additional components if you don't need to. In hot weather, sugar water can ferment quickly, so change the nectar in your feeder twice a week. Fresh is always best.
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Rocky trading session for the Western Asset High Income Opportunity Fund (HIO), which fell to a three-year low this afternoon, triggering a trading halt.
Shares of the closed-end fund dipped as low as $4.72 this afternoon, or 27% below Friday's close, before recovering. The fund is currently down 2.3% at $6.36.


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By PATSY STODDARDEditor
Immigration has been a hot topic lately and Emery County has its own immigration story which has become a nightmare for the Sah family of Green River. They have been ordered to leave America by July 1.
Ken Sah is from the country of India and has been in America for 16 years. He came to the United States as a student in 1990. He studied and graduated with a degree in aviation-engineering from Oakland, Calif.
Sah said, "I looked at America as the land of opportunity. I liked it here. I liked the history of the country. I decided to stay. I applied for an asylum in 1991 while still in college. I was already married to my wife Sarita, but there were those that said if I married an American I could stay. But, I couldn't do that because I was already married. It took 10 years before I had a court hearing. What can you do? In 10 years time I had to work and earn a living. We worked hard night and day until I had $100,000 saved to put on a down payment on a motel in Green River.
"I came to America by myself and after two years my wife Sarita was able to join me.
"We came to Green River in 1997 and purchased the Budget Inn. We operated the motel with no help, just me and my wife. In 2001, we built a new hotel the Ramada Limited. We are also co-owners of a motel, the Value Lodge, in Charlotte, N.C.
"Ten years is a long time to wait for a hearing. If it could have been decided in a couple of years that would have been better. But 10 years? We have built a life in America. After 10 years, they denied my asylum. They said I could go back to India and that it was a big country and if I didn't like it in one part then I could travel to another part of India. We have a son Kunal who is an American citizen. He was born in Oakland in 1993. He has never known any place but America.
"My lawyer appealed my case to a higher court but it was denied. I am now at the end of all the administrative avenues. I have no place else to go. I have sent faxes and emails to Pres. Bush at the White House. I have had no response.
"I was hoping Sen. Bob Bennett could contact Pres. Bush for me. Sen. Bennett is a businessman and would understand how hard it is to operate your own business.
"I would need special legislation written now just for my case. The politicians seem unwilling to do that. The president could also offer me asylum. I just can't get a hold of anyone to help us. We have to be out of America by July 1.
"I need someone to lead me up to the people who can help. Everywhere I have met a dead end. We have been scared for the last five years. My wife, Sarita, cries every day. I try to console her, but I feel terrible, too. If I had done anything wrong it would be different, if I was a criminal. But for the past 16 years I have been involved economically in the country. I have a social security number and have been paying taxes, almost $100,000 a year to the government.
"I have written to the governor and they tell me it's a federal issue and they can't help. I have seen on the TV where Gov. Huntsman has adopted a baby from India. He is a nice man and has saved a child's life. But, what about me? What about my son? Could the governor try to help me? Could he get a hold of Pres. Bush for us? I need someone to lead me to the resources who could help.
"For the last five years, we have been scared that the next person through the door might be the one who will take us away. Two weeks ago the immigration department came and took our passports away. They said we can have them back when we have bought our plane tickets out of the country.
"We have prospered in this country, but now we have been told to sell our properties or lose everything. I have my properties up for sale, but if they don't sell we will lose everything. How can I just leave my businesses here?
"If we have to leave they told me there is a 10 year ban before I could enter this country again. Ours was the first of our family to come to America. I have one brother here now, but the rest of my family is in India and we haven't seen them for 16 years. I couldn't go home when my mother died, because they wouldn't let me back into America. My son Kunal doesn't want to leave. He doesn't know India. His life is here. He is an American.
"If we are sent back it will be a loss to America. We contribute to the economy. We have invested to help make America stronger.
"My son is a very intelligent boy he is a good student. He won the district spelling bee and will be competing in Washington D.C. on May 31 and June 1. While we are in Washington, I hope I can contact our senators or congressman for an appointment to tell my story and get some help so we don't have to leave.
"We keep hoping that something will happen and we won't have to leave. We are a benefit to America. We are being forced to leave, it just doesn't make sense.
"At first the political people were very hopeful and positive with me, but lately they have just said they are unable to help and I have been left completely alone.
"My son has worked so hard to get ready for the spelling bee and we are so proud of him. The whole community and school is proud of him.
"I have not slept good for the past five years, with the cloud of deportation hanging over our heads. It's sad that we haven't been able to go back to India to visit. Kunal hasn't ever seen my father or my wife's family. We just knew we wouldn't be allowed back into America and we couldn't risk that. We love it here. I hope to see my Dad before he dies.
"If my son were older, I would just give everything to him when we have to leave, but he is too young. He can't stay here alone.
"Even though all these things have happened. I still feel that something good should happen. We don't deserve this. This shouldn't be happening to us. I hope that something good will happen that will allow us to stay. If not, at the end of June we will be gone. We will leave. We are not going to do anything illegal, like go into hiding. I have done everything legally that I am able. I will not go into hiding. That would not be a good impression or good influence on my son. If I have to go, I will go peacefully. I would like to say thanks to everyone who has tried to help me. I have had over 50 recommendations from people sent to Sen. Orrin Hatch's office on my behalf. The people have been very supportive. Former Green River Mayor Glen Johnson has been a good friend to our family.
"I have tried to keep a positive attitude through all of this. I have had a work permit all these years and have always been legal. I have not been illegal and if I leave by June 30, I will be OK and not arrested. It is sad that someone like me who has been here so long is being forced to leave.
"Until the last moment comes we will keep trying and hope for the best. I will keep my enthusiasm that something good will happen. I don't know yet if that will be successful, but we have one month left and anything could happen in this last month.
Sarita said, "I am scared, but I am still doing fine."
Kunal said he has lived in a motel his whole life. But if they are allowed to stay in America, the family has plans to build a home in Green River.
Ken said, "I have trusted in the rules and regulations and tried to do everything right. It is harder that way, there are many who look for loopholes in the system. After 16 years, I am still trusting the system."
Kunal said, "Green River is the only place I have known. If we leave, I still want to come back to America to go to college when I am 18. I am excited to go to Washington D.C. to the National Spelling Bee."
Kunal has been taught the native language of Hindi by his parents. He also can read and write in Hindi.
The family is occupied full time at the motel especially during the summer months. But, sometimes when it's slow during the winter the family gets away for some family time. Ken said, "Kunal is an American kid, we took him to Florida to Walt Disney World."
The end of the story is yet to be known, but with a miracle hopefully the Sah family will realize their dream of staying and working in America for a long time.


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Skip to comments.McCain: Obama Would Be Impeached for 'Boots on Ground' in Syria
Posted on 09/08/2013 7:20:07 PM PDT by lbryce
Sen. John McCain has warned that President Barack Obama could face impeachment if he put boots on the ground in Syria.
"No one wants American boots on the ground," the Arizona Republican told Phoenix CBS affiliate KFYI-TV on Thursday. "Nor will there be American boots on the ground because there would be an impeachment of the president if they did that.
"The fact is [Syrian President] Bashar Assad has massacred 100,000 people," McCain added. "The conflict is spreading
The Russians are all in, the Iranians are all in and its an unfair fight."
(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...
There isn't a sleazier senator in DC.
Same old crap like his screeching for answers to what happened in Benghazi after cheerleading us into that mess.
You Lie!
So ... the US against Syria is a fair fight? what the heck is McCain talking about? Syria is winning against the terrorist rebels. If Russia and Iran were "all in" there would be no Syria.
How many THOUSANDS more will be crucified because of Obama
and McCain and the whoring, drunk Congress?
How many HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS more will be made
into Islamic slaves or beheaded
because of Obama and McCain and the whoring, drunk Congress?
Assad killed all of them? Not one single person died at the hands of
Al Qaeda the Free Syrian Army?
He massacred 100,000 people? That means the "rebels" have not killed anyone, or raped any women, or beheaded priests or killed civilians.
I am so sick of McCain, I wonder who votes for this nutjob.
He wouldn't be impeached for beheading and roasting a troop of girl scouts on the White House lawn.
Not likely and McCain would vote against it himself, we all know this. Why would he say something like this outside of being completely brainwashed?!? Oh, wait...
What is the point of saying this, at this time?
I bet US boots are in there already with CIA.
Obama will be rescued by his mommy, the MSM.
And so should McLame.
Well, these days they have secret courts and spy systems to take care of all those impeachment questions.
McCain's new nickname should be "Ping Pong Ball." He just bounces from one end of the spectrum to the other, sometimes with only hours between.
Empty. Words.
Obama could rape a puppy on the front lawn of the white house and he wouldn't be impeached.
His blackness protects him, and the charge of racism against anyone who opposes him protects him like a force field.
And it sickens me.
Absolutely....Can't be....we don't do spying...
I have never seen such a thirst for war from anyone. McCain should be put in a rubberroom.
McCain is such a doofus. There is simply no offense that Obama could commit that could rise to the level of impeachment. His race card will always prevail.
Hey McCain, we aren't talking about 'boots on the ground' we are talking about bombing!
So this is why bomb Syria now ???
In My opinion,NcAmnesty is no hero. He was a total traitor in VietNam. He told the NVA everything he knew!!(including flight plans and tactics) and he was so loved by the bastards he had "special quarters". After we bombed them into total submission ( NIXON), he was the first for prisoner release!! but he begged them "no don't do that to me — put me in the middle of your capitulating release of POWS so I don't stand out as your favorite" I am of the opinion that he was a coward and a traitor and I am not alone. Many prisoners still alive today hate MC amnesty>
Anytime McRino ticks me off I like to watch this video........
That would be the good citizens of Arizona including the buses full of precinct jumping illegals.
Boolsheet! You don' got the nads to do yourself, nevermind Odungo!
Up until now I've thought remarks here about McCain becoming senile were mostly hyperbole. Now I don't. He's expanded the force resolution to include, in effect, the total undermining of the Assad regime. If that happens and the MB/AQ he and the Mahdi support gain power in Damascus, we'll have the choice of putting boots on the ground to try to capture Assad's chemical weapons or have AQ bring them over here to wipe out the populations of one or more cities. About then that'll be a compelling national security case for putting mucho boots on the ground in Syria ASAP. His being unable to see that pretty well proves he's gone around the bend and isn't coming back.
He has a head that looks like a sack of potatoes. Let's call him Spud.
I am shocked at how our leaders are SLOBBERING to start a war. It's sickening. They want to destabilize the entire Middle East. THEY WANT TO PUT INTO POWER REGIMES WHO KILL CHRISTIANS.
Re: "massacred 100,000 of his own people" ... my understanding is that 40K of these are Assad's own soldiers.
It's kind of like saying "Abe Lincoln, psychotic despot, slaughtered 620,000 Americans, his own people."
Well not exactly the same ... but you get the point.
Sure he would and I don't give a flip what you guys want.
You little d***ks started this pissing up a rope trick and it needs to end.
Let Gazprom have their pipeline or whatever.
Europe doesn't seem to have a problem with Syria and if they do THEY can form a coalition of their own and deal with it.
Now FO.
Yeah, right.
We trust McCain, just as do all of his lame Arizona voters who think he is a hero for getting shot down in one of the first missions in his career and spending 6 years doing who knows what in an enemy prison.
If those activities at all resembled what he's been doing in the service of the people of this country, then we are entitled to wonder about that.
But we have every reason to ignore everything he has to say on these matters as crap
"He wouldnt be impeached for beheading and roasting a troop of girl scouts on the White House lawn."
Joined by a group of enemies of the State.
Both sides are banded together in this effort for more than one reason.
Congress wouldn't have the guts to impeach Obama if he was caught using the Declaration Of Independence and the US Constitution for toilet paper on the Capital steps in broad daylight on Independence day.
And if they did, the Senate wouldn't vote to convict - and that includes John McCain.
They wouldn't do anything to hurt the black poser's feelings or damage his false self esteem.
Obamas interest in invading non-enemy Syria has nothing to do with Syria, poison gas, or children.
Obamas interest in bombing non-enemy Syria has everything to do with creating a long-lasting, controversial, DISTRACTION for Congress in order to keep Congress from defunding Obamacare/Boehnerkare.
Obamas Red Herring for the 9-11 Benghazi Massacre Coverup was Susan Rices fake Video story.
Obamas Red Herring for distracting Congress until Obamacare/ Boehnerkare kicks in October 1 is Obamas Crossing HIS personal Red Line distraction speech.
Obama speaks only for Obama, not the US Federal Government or America.
Well Johnny boy, better get the presses fired up and start printing the invitations because who exactly is creating the target lists for the upcoming fireworks display? Sure, satellites are useful, but there are many countries with special forces in Syria, and I'd be shocked if we weren't one of them.
Yeah, that means that in 3 weeks, this dirtbag will be voting for it.
I think you are correct. They have toughed it out nicely. But you have got to wonder how long the MSN can hold out. I predict 2 more years. That's if he doesn't try for a third term.
Does he really expect anyone is going to believe him? Really?
I think he drinks too much and then says these things. I don't know where the hell else it comes from. He gets worse every day.
did McCain just switch sides?
or does he even know what he is saying any more?
Wear are those guys in white coats?
After watching McCain's performance at recent town halls in Arizona, it's obvious the wheels have come off the old man's wagon. The arrogance, the shifty avoidance of eye contact, incomprehensible rambling and inappropriate laughter should be reason enough to have him institutionalized right next to Nancy Pelosi. He seriously looked on the verge of crazy.
So every time a jihadist lops off the head of a Christian, Assad is blamed by McCain.
Since McCain has just announced to the world that he doesn't have the slightest idea what he is talking about will the media quit treating him as their favorite Republican?
When you are tortured by pros, everyone tells or dies. Your two examples are things already known by the enemy. The purpose is to break you for propaganda not to collect intel.
"Why so riled up now, King RINO?"
I bet he's been getting a lot of crap from his constituents.
This stance is utterly phony. He knows that if we start an airwar, something is likely to happen that will juice the American public up for further intervention.
Remember the Gulf of Tonkin resolution.
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Veneto 1488 /1490 – Venice 1576
Madonna and Child in a landscape
[Madonna col Bambino nel paesaggio]
oil on wood panel
38.8 (h) x 48.3 (w) cm Accademia Carrara, Bergamo
Legacy of Guglielmo Lochis 1866
A little painting of extraordinary beauty, this was one of the most treasured possessions of Count Guglielmo Lochis.[1] He fervently believed it was by Titian, although the painting is so very close to the style of Giorgione in 1507 that the attribution has sometimes been questioned. [2] It is one of those fascinating works that will be discussed endlessly because it contains the excitement of a new style of Venetian painting.[3] Comparisons are often made, but the surest indicator of Titian's style are his first documented works, the frescoes in the Scuola del Santo, Padua, in 1511, which introduced a softer form of colouring and greater relief to the figures.
The Madonna is seated before a wall in the Venetian countryside, where trees and bushes frame the pastoral scene in the foreground and valleys wind into the distance, with mountains that recall Titian's birthplace, Cadore. The rosy colours suggest that the time of day is dusk. The composition shows that deep intimacy between a mother and her child that tugs at our emotions. The plump Infant playing with his Mother's hair is fluently painted in the bravura
style that is characteristic of the young Titian when he is very close to Giorgione.
In his 'life' of Titian, Giorgio Vasari wrote of the young artist following the manner of Giorgione. In a famous passage he observed that in about 1507 Giorgione began to give his works a new softness, 'morbidezza', combined with greater relief, and to mix both brutal and sweet colours, applying the paint without making preliminary drawings, 'senza far disegno'.[4] Vasari's appraisal could apply equally to the sharpness of the reds and blues of the Madonna's garments contrasted with Titian's emotive style, where the contours of the Child's body and the Madonna's face and neckline are defined by a soft way of colouring.
Having a monocentric view of the Renaissance, Vasari approved of the Florentine way of painting, with artists who made all kinds of preparatory drawings for details, even entire compositions, so that when it came to applying paint the composition was well worked out. While he grudgingly praised the new Venetian style invented by Giorgione in 1507 and continued by his students, especially Titian and Sebastiano del Piombo,[5] Vasari complained that what Giorgione had introduced was a fashion of composing straight on the canvas with colours alone, without making preliminary drawings. Vasari even asserted that the Venetians relied on their charming colouring to conceal their incompetence as draftsmen—hinting at a provincialism due to the fact that they had never been to Florence or Rome to study works of true perfection.
Scientific analysis of early sixteenth-century Venetian paintings confirms Vasari's observations. Compositions were indeed worked out on the canvas, with layers of brilliant colours and minimal underdrawing. For later Baroque artists who loved the Venetian style, such as the Carracci,[6] there was nothing the matter with composing directly on the canvas as Titian has done. In fact it was the best way of creating works of art.
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[1]Guglielmo Lochis, La pinacoteca e la villa Lochis alla Crocetta di Mozzo presso Bergamo con notizie biografiche degli Autori dei Quadri, Bergamo: Tipografia Natali, 1858, pp. 57–58.
[2]Giorgione (1477/1478?–1510).
[3]Luisa Attardi, in Giovanni Valagussa and Giovanni Villa (eds), I grandi veneti: Da Pisanello a Tiziano, da Tintoretto a Tiepolo. Capolavori dall'Accademia Carrara di Bergamo, Cinisello Balsamo: Silvana Editoriale, 2010, pp. 88–89.
[4]Giorgio Vasari (1568), Le vite de' più eccellenti architetti, pittori et scultori, Florence: Giunti, 1569,VI, p. 155.
[5]Sebastiano del Piombo (c. 1485–1547).
[6]Annibale Carracci (1560–1609), his cousin Ludovico (1555–1619) and his brother Agostino (1557–1602).


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Tuesday, December 6, 2011
Forget the millions of Europeans affected, the EU won't even bother to put its attempt to seize control over member state economies to a vote amongst its own parliamentary cronies, preferring instead to change the Lisbon Treaty under powers Eurocrats granted themselves.
Having repeatedly staged national referendums until they got the vote they wanted, the Lisbon Treaty was passed with a provision, the obscure 'passerelle' clause, Art. 126 (14) via protocol 12, that bestowed upon Brussels the power to change its terms without any kind of vote whatsoever popular or parliamentary.
"This decision does not require ratification at national level. This procedure could therefore lead to rapid and significant changes," according to a confidential text issued by EU President Herman Van Rompuy.
This means that any effort to change the treaty in order to create a "fiscal union," or in other words, impose centralized control over every member state's economy from Brussels, would simply be accomplished with the stroke of a pen and would not involve votes from any national parliament or any MEP.
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The objective of the coup is to exploit the euro debt crisis as a vehicle through which to create a European federal superstate that will transfer all remaining control over national affairs to Brussels. The globalists have already started the process, hand-picking two unelected stooges to replace democratically elected Prime Ministers in Greece and Italy.
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Who Do We Draft In The First Round
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Posted 21 January 2007 - 01:44 PM
Moss is the shit. If not Moss then perhaps Michael Bush dependant on his combine or Carriker if he falls or Okoye.
Posted 21 January 2007 - 01:52 PM
1. pick up an NT through FA and move robertson to DE. the problem with this theory is 2 fold.
a. can robertson play DE in the 3-4?? usually DEs are 6'4 and up because they have to match up against much taller OTs and robertson might not be tall enough and his arms might be too short to create separation from these guys.
b. who do we pick up in FA? everyone is saying terdell sands bc he is 6'7 335 lbs which is huge but is he fit to play NT? does he even have the leverage to play that position? what makes you think he can do it since he does not even start as a DT on the raiders? how do we know whether or not we will even be able to get him with other teams courting him? no way we should get in a bidding war with another team looking to improve their dline for an unproven guy like sands.
2. draft a DE and keep robertson at NT. dewayne has already spent a year learning this position and has vastly improved. now it depends on whether the front office thinks he is good enough to keep learning this position or whether it was just a 1 year hold over task before replacing him. i think we should just keep him at NT since he was doing quite well and just draft a DE to replace kimo. this would keep him inside where the shorter and stockier players are present.
now obviously, if branch, carriker, and anderson are all gone (these are the best 3-4 DEs) then we will probably go with the best OLB and fill our DE need with atkins or francis later in the draft. it all depends on what the front office thinks we need, as well as what we do in FA, and who is still on the board by the time we pick. i personally would like to see a carriker, bush, OLB (pray that woodley/spencer falls), but i wouldn't be upset with a moss, bush, atkins draft either.
Posted 21 January 2007 - 01:57 PM
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i don't think we really need to trade down because we already have those 2 2nd rounders. we are in a difficult spot because though the draft is deep, we need immediate starters at a few positions. these positions are mainly DE, OLB, and RB. now if we trade down, we are losing the chance to lock up these positions. what good is it to trade down out of the first round and now have 3 2nd rounder, and an extra 4th?? those picks probably won't give us immediate starters moreso than just staying where we are right now. if we had a team that didn't have many IMMEDIATE needs and just wanted to draft depth that could come along in a couple of years, then i think that would be a great idea, but considering our situation of needing immediate help, we probably shouldn't.
Posted 21 January 2007 - 02:41 PM
I think it's just way too early to say. First, it depends what they do in FA. We all seem to agree that d line is the biggest need, but if they find a big NT in free agency, d line probably won't be their main focus. Second, so much can happen between now and the draft. A guy that we're looking at could light up the combines and end up going top 10. That's what Dewayne did. He was projected as a late rounder before the combines and he ended up going fourth overall. I think we'll have a much better idea after the combines.
Posted 21 January 2007 - 02:42 PM
Posted 21 January 2007 - 03:49 PM
hurricane, u know we already have leon washington. we need a power back like bush to complement him.
Posted 21 January 2007 - 03:53 PM
1.alan branch
2. marshawn lynch
3. jarvais moss
4.lamar woodley
5. justin blaylock.
Posted 21 January 2007 - 04:15 PM
Sarcasm...I would flip a shit if we drafted that midget!
Posted 21 January 2007 - 04:15 PM
1.alan branch
2. marshawn lynch
3. jarvais moss
4.lamar woodley
5. justin blaylock.
Lynch and Branch aren't going to happen, I don't think we'll trade up and get them. I see woodley and moss and possibilities in the first round.
Posted 21 January 2007 - 04:22 PM
thats why its called a big board...
Posted 21 January 2007 - 04:38 PM
If you want Woodley save your first rounder and get him in the second...
Posted 21 January 2007 - 04:39 PM
haha ok.. there are a ton of unrealistic people on this site that do not know much. didn't expect that you were serious.
Posted 21 January 2007 - 05:53 PM
26th -
Adam Carriker
Scouts Grade: 90
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Strengths: Possesses outstanding size and good quickness for his size. Is tall, well-built and powerful. Shows adequate initial quickness and good agility for such a bigger DE prospect. He plays with adequate leverage and shows the base to take on blocks versus the run. He takes solid angles in pursuit and has become a reliable wrap-up tackler in space. Also is a powerful hitter. Shows good instincts as a pass rusher. Displays a wide array of power moves and is relentless in pursuit. Not a speed-rusher type off the edge, but he is productive because of his quickness, power, versatility and motor.
Weaknesses: Lacks ideal top-end speed. Does not show the speed or closing burst to consistently turn the corner as an edge rusher in the NFL. Is a power-end type that will only fit well in certain schemes. He must continue to improve his hand-usage in order to consistently disengage quicker.
Overall: Carriker was redshirter in 2002. He played in nine games in 2003, missed three games with an ankle injury, and finished the year with three total tackles, one tackle for loss, and one sack. In 2004, he appeared in 10 games (eight starts), missed more time with an ankle injury, and recorded 36 total tackles, seven tackles for loss, and three sacks for the season. Carriker then started all 12 games in 2005 at "base" defensive end, made 43 total tackles, 17 tackles for loss, 9.5 sacks, and forced one fumble earning First Team All-Big 12 recognition from the Associated Press.
With an impressive combination of size and agility, Carriker has always been supremely talented but finally showed signs of reaching his full potential as a junior. If he can take his game to the next level as a senior, Carriker could come off the 2007 draft board as early as the second round.
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Michael Bush
Scouts Grade: 89
Flags: (I: INJURY) Coming off injury that may affect play
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Strengths: A big, powerful and fast prospect with premier running back potential in the NFL. He possesses great straight-line speed and agility for his size. He shows good initial burst but also displays patience as a runner. His vision is excellent and he does a very good job of changing direction in the backfield in order to hit the developing backside hole. Great feet for his size. When he runs with adequate pad-level he can run through defenders. He also has enough speed to consistently turn the corner as an outside runner. He's a versatile athlete that was recruited to play quarterback out of high school. He possesses good athleticism and hand-eye coordination. He looks smooth when catching the ball out of the backfield. Shows reliable hands and flashes the ability to pluck the ball on the run, as well as away from his body. He has experience working out of the slot and split out wide. Is an outstanding route-runner for a running back, especially for his size. He has ideal size and strength to handle blocking responsibility at the next level. Also shows willingness in blitz pickup.
Weaknesses: Durability is now a pressing concern following season-ending broken leg injury as a senior. He also missed two games (Rutgers, Syracuse) due to injury in 2005. He possesses great speed for his size, but he's not going to run away from NFL defenders as frequently as he does at the collegiate level. He lacks ideal elusiveness and will struggle to make defenders miss as frequently in space at the next level. Runs too high at times. Needs to show more consistent pad-level and also needs to add a better stiff-arm move to his repertoire. Conditioning and stamina can improve. Can use some technique work as a blocker. Has the tools to be outstanding in this facet but needs to refine angles and show more consistent leverage at the point of attack.
Overall: Bush arrived at Louisville in 2003, played in all 13 games that season, four of which he started. He carried 81 times for 503 yards (6.2 average), scored six touchdowns, and caught 17 passes for 240 yards and one touchdown. As a true sophomore in 2004, Bush played in all 12 games (three starts) and rushed for 743 yards on 132 carries (5.6 yards per carry) with seven touchdowns, while adding 11 receptions for 155 yards. Bush also threw a 48-yard touchdown pass versus TCU. In 2005, Bush played in 10 contests, started eight, and missed two games with a foot injury. He rushed 205 times for 1,143 yards (led the Big East), averaging 5.6 yards per carry and set a Louisville school record for rushing touchdowns with 23. He also made 21 receptions for 253 yards and one touchdown. Bush suffered a season-ending broken tibia in Week 1 (vs. Kentucky) of the 2006 season.
Bush has the option to medical redshirt in 2006 and return to Louisville next fall, but he is expected to forgo that option for the 2007 NFL draft. Prior to the injury he was considered the premier running back prospect in the 2007 class. When healthy, Bush's versatility and speed for such a big back are what separate him from most others at his position. However, his injury typically requires a six-to-eight month recovery period, which means he'll be cutting it close in terms of rehabbing for in time to workout for NFL scouts. There also are concerns regarding Bush's eating habits, which could lead to serious weight and conditioning problems during the recovery process.
If Bush can avoid that pitfall and expedite his rehab, there's still a chance that a team gambles on him late in the first round. At this point, however, it's a safer bet that Bush comes off the board in the second round.
58th - this guy might be around for our 3rd but just to make sure we get him.
Louis Leonard
Scouts Grade: 52
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Strengths: A massive DT/NT prospect with impressive height and bulk. Displays good initial quickness for his size. Is a wide-bodied defender that is capable of tying up blockers in a two-gap scheme. He displays good overall strength and the ability to anchor at the line of scrimmage. Can occasionally be effective as a pass rusher because of quickness and power. He will show the ability to occasionally drive the lineman back into the pocket with powerful bull rush move. He plays with a solid motor on the field, so long as he gets proper rest.
Weaknesses: Lacks ideal experience and is an unpolished prospect. Must learn to use his hands more effectively and disengage from blocks quicker. Will wear down quickly and needs to be in a heavy rotation to be effective. Weight can become an issue and will always need to be monitored. He does not possess good athleticism and he won't make a lot of plays in space. Gets good penetration for a player his size, but does not show closing burst to the quarterback. Also lacks many moves as a pass rusher and does not show a lot of creativity in that regard.
Overall: Leonard was redshirted in 2002 before appearing in nine games during the 2003 season, when he recorded five total tackles, one tackle for loss, and one sack. In 2004, he saw action in nine games (three starts), missed three games with an ankle injury, and finished the year with 11 total tackles. Leonard played in 12 games in 2005, finishing with 26 total tackles, 4.5 tackles for loss, 2.5 sacks, and one fumble recovery for the season.
Leonard is a second-day prospect in the 2007 draft class because of his size and potential, but not because of his collegiate resume. The massive two-gap DT/NT prospect must improve his technique and overall consistency in order to warrant consideration in the first four rounds.
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Josh Beekman
Scouts Grade: 83
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Strengths: Possesses excellent size. Is a thickly built mauling type of interior, offensive lineman. Engulfs undersized defenders at the point of attack and can wear defenders down over the course of the game. Does a good job of locking onto the defender's frame, plays with a wide base and can sustain blocks. Takes good angles to blocks, plays under control in space and can get into position at the second level. Gets adequate knee bend in pass set and rarely gives ground to bull rushers. Shows good awareness, keeps his head up and does an adequate job of picking up blitzes as well as line stunts. He has shown some versatility playing guard and center during his collegiate career.
Weaknesses: Doesn't have an explosive first step, doesn't show great footwork and is going to have problems preventing penetration working against one-gap defenders. Foot-speed is lacking, has problems redirecting inside after starting outside and is vulnerable to double moves. Doesn't deliver a violent initial punch, doesn't roll his hips into blocks and isn't going to knock defenders back. Lacks ideal range, doesn't cover downfield well and may need to shed some weight in order to gain some quickness. Ideal playing weight is under 320 pounds, but he has ballooned to 340 pounds at points during his collegiate career.
Overall: Beekman was redshirted in 2002. He saw action in all 13 games in 2003, was plugged into the starting lineup twice, and played on special teams registering two tackles. In 2004, Beekman took over as the starting right guard for the entire season (12 games). He once again started all 12 games at right guard in 2005. Beekman started all 13 games as a senior in 2006; 10 at guard and three at center.
Beekman is a far better run blocker than he is a pass blocker but he has the size and enough athletic ability to develop into an every-down starting offensive guard in the NFL. He also showed some versatility playing center as a senior. Beekman projects as one of the top-five offensive guard prospects in this year's class and should come off the board no later than the third round.
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- Brief Synopsis:
- As Louise ventures out into the great wide world, she's a not-so-chicken chicken who isn't afraid to take flight.
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- Ages 4-8 She longed for adventure. So she left her home and ventured out into the wide world. The pleasures and perils she met proved plentiful: marauding pirates on the majestic seas, a ferocious lion under the bright lights of the big top, a mysterious stranger in an exotic and bustling bazaar. Yet in the face of such daunting danger, our heroine . . . She was brave. She was fearless. She was feathered. She was a chicken. A not-so-chicken chicken. Her name? Louise
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