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Game No.8: We Want 10! We Want 10!
Kent Wilson
October 24 2010 05:28PM
The gamethread's title was the now infamous chant we all heard in the Shark tank last, during what was likely the most humiliating loss the Flames have suffered in recent memory. The subliminal message layered beneath the Sharks fans non-too-subte mockery was perhaps the more devastating one, however: you're not up to our level, son.
The Flames have been perpetually poised on the cusp of greatness since the run of 2004, without ever really breaking away from the Western Conference middle class. Hopes were high after landing Bouwmeester in the off-season and then leading the division for the first couple of months last year...but the 9-1 loss to the Sharks was truly the dagger in the heart of those aspirations.
After missing the dance last year and without significant changes in the summer, the Flames fanbase is haunted by the fear that the window for the club to actually take that step into the lelite ranks is rapidly coming to a close. Every game against the likes of the Red Wings and Sharks represents another "validity" tests this year; another one of those chances for the Flames to give us a sign they'll stop merely battling for a play-off spot and actually become a contender.
I'm not sanguine about the Flames chances of making the leap this year, but I'm always open to being convinced. The Columbus game seems to have generally soothed anxieties about the club's offense in town, but I remain skeptical: the quality of opposition, as well as the hideousness of it's goaltending, makes me pause in celebrating Calgary's new-found potency. Some blow-outs are earned, with the score a true reflection of the contest. That wasn't true on Friday: the scoring chance count for each club was within range and the Flames didn't run away with anything possession wise. The primary difference between the teams was the Flames shots happened to go in. That seems glib and unsatisfying, but it's the way of things sometimes - there are nights when the bounces favor you and curse the puck-stopper at the other end. This isn't an indictment of Calgary's performance against the BJ's by any means, but I would say that the 6-spot managed by the Flames on Firday isn't necessarily indicative of anything but the struggles of one Steve Mason during an off-night.
The Sharks, on the other hand, are a truer test. They're on the second night of a back-to-back and the Flames are in their own barn, so this is as favorable as this match-up is going to be for Calgary (short of someone knee-capping Thornton, Heatley, Marleau and Pavelski of course). Like in Detroit, the Flames big guns have nowhere to hide this evening: it's either perform or get buried. Here's hoping it's the former this time.
Let's get it going.
October 24 2010, 06:01PM
well done Kent. Of paticular note use of the word 'sanguine' should also be commended. I'm learning more and more by visiting flamesnation on a daily basis.
hmm 4-28 and 3-5 paired
i like 8 on the pp point btw
niemi looking mason-esque though
yes, for sure
Huh. Nice start, though there's still lots of time for the wheels to come off. Let's see if they can maintain a pace like this for 60 minutes...
the shuffled d-pairs could be to hard match 4-28 vs thorntons line
should probably yank niemi about now
Niemi pulled already!
if 3-5 can handle the 2nd thoughs that would be great
October 24 2010, 06:33PM
no, not trying to be sarcastic all. good write up.
bourque again. nice.
nice shift by 40
October 24 2010, 06:33PM
This is so strange. It's like the Twilight Zone or something...
October 24 2010, 06:36PM
Lets hope we can deal a bit of revenge for that terrible game in the shark tank last season
@Kent It's the Chicago game that I'm thinking of. Maybe seven goals is a safe lead?
there seems to be some kind of bermuda triangle of suck in tampa for skilled wingers brought in to play with lecavalier. look at gagne this season
13 has infinite more chemistry with 10 than 12. it also helps to not play against other teams first lines
ah well, of to bed here in stockholm. hope they keep it up. knock on wood
@Kent, clearly there wasn't any need to worry that he was being rushed back. That move off the boards to feed Glencross... He's gonna be the best skater on the team again this season.
Poor Glencross. He's been one of the best skaters to start the season, then two posts tonight...


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The Perception Problem
Thomas Drance
August 11 2011 01:02PM
I remember the sinking feeling I had walking out of the "Bertuzzi-punch" game when I was in high-school. I turned to my friend and said the words: "I'm embarrassed to be a Canucks fan." I was seventeen at the time, and it wasn't an experience I'd ever had before. I remember it vividly - it was a tough moment, and a dark one.
I'm getting used to that embarrassment though, sad as it is to say. Yesterday evening - news surfaced about some harassment Milan Lucic has been enduring this summer from a handful of probably young, probably drunk young men. The Courier reports that the frosty reception from some lowest-common denominator Canucks fans has caused Lucic and his family to recalibrate their Cup celebration plans this weekend. The piece, it should be pointed out, doesn't cite a single official complaint or police report - but I don't think it requires a huge leap of faith to accept that most of what the Courier piece claims, sounds pretty likely to have occurred.
It's not like being a Canucks fan has ever been particularly easy - but it's been an awful lot harder over the past couple of months. I'm still a dye-in-the-whool homer, I'll live and breathe Canucks hockey until the day I grow up and get a real life. In the postseason, I was prepared to defend the team over just about anything - biting, diving, the Aaron Rome hit, Raffi Torres - no big deal, the mainstream media was blowing it up. I still think the team takes too much flak, but the fan-culture surrounding the team is another matter.
It's a problem at this point. Don't tell me the rioters weren't Canucks fans, or that the Courier report about people harassing Lucic is specious (it is) and limited to a few drunk ass-hats. Even if you're right, and you are partly, there's a pattern emerging that's hard to ignore.
Lets make the requisite qualifiers before we go any further - I don't know a single person who personally participated in the riot. I'm not friends with anyone who would do anything but congratulate Milan Lucic on his cup win if they saw him at a festival ("Loved you on the Giants, man"). The Canucks fans I regularly talk to on twitter are class. When one of our regulars came out over the weekend - he recieved nothing but support from everyone in my timeline. I'm also not convinced that sore-loserdom is a unique attribute of Canucks fans - any more than I'm convinced that rioting over hockey games is something unique to Vancouver. I swear to god, I considered live-tweeting Freud's Group Psychology and the Analysis of the Ego after reading a handful of particularly tone-deaf and judgemental riot takes.
With those qualifiers made - the first step towards fixing a cultural problem, is to admit you've got a problem - and like it or not Canucks fans, we've got one. It manifests itself in malignant ways that embarrass the entire city (the Lucic harrassment, the riot) but also in more subtle, benign ways. Think about the "REF YOU SUCK" chant that the regulars at Rogers Arena are so attached to - is there another fan-base that has a chant like that which they go to habitually? Because for Canucks fans - it doesn't even matter whether or not the ref makes a terrible call or not, "REF YOU SUCK" is just a Rogers Arena standard.
Now that chant is pretty harmless, how does that link directly into looting behavior? It doesn't. But the chant is based on a paranoid worldview (they're out to get us!) that the group (Canucks fans) have internalized and identified with. As with any other fan-base we're permissive of a certain type of delusion the reenforces our group identity (Oilers fans - it's still the eighties!) but our particular mixture is paranoid, overly-sensitive and aggressive.
When I went to game 5 in Vancouver - I was sitting with my dad in front of 4 young men. Three of them were nice guys, but one was drunk off his face, and I suspect he was the type who is probably just a jerk either way. When he started booing the American anthem, I told him to shut-up. When he "accidentally" spilled beer on me late in the second period, I was pretty pissed. I told his buddies to get him away from me or I'd get them kicked out - which, of course, led to this particular young man slurring me with homophobic crap while mocking me as a tattle-tale. Sorry dude, I flew across the continent and spent an entire paycheque on tickets - I want to enjoy the game dry. Now I was bigger than him, and the fans in our section were agreeable and supportive of me (as were his friends) - but it was still tense, and totally unnecessary. When the Canucks won, I offered the guy my hand and told him I had no ill-will for him, he gave me an enthusiastic high-five and hollered "ONE MORE GAME" or something like that. But imagine if the Canucks had lost - our tension would've amounted to a tinder box.
Again - stuff like this happens at any well attended event. You've had a tense interaction with a jerk at some point at a bar, hockey game or a live-show - it's part of the dynamics of a crowd. Also sociopaths, scumbuckets and productive members of society are all equally entitled to their fandom...
Let me share a Bruce Arthur quote with you from right before the Olympics:
When I was growing up in Vancouver my mother used to say that there was something about the unearthly, dreamscape beauty of this edge of the world that — well, it wasn't so much that it drove people to madness so much as it unmoored certain minds from reality, a little or a lot."
This line has stuck with me because I've always had a sort of naive, unscientific belief that the wildness of Vancouver's geography - rugged young mountain peaks, whitecap speckled straights - plays an intangible role in the behavior and habits of the populace. Perhaps the minority of Canucks fans - the ones who riot, who harass (on twitter or at Greek festivals) and who are such sore losers that they can't let a native son like Lucic enjoy his moment of glory - are just more "unmoored" than the run of the mill jackasses in other fanbases. Who knows.
It's not a question, or an issue we can solve in this space. What we can do, is be aware of our particular perception problem and instead of getting offended or sensitive when Greg Wyshynski recaps a Courier piece that predominantly features the worst behaviors of the Canucks fanbase - is share his disgust. There are always going to be jerk Canucks fans, that isn't going to go away, what I'd like to see is for the rational, silent majority to start differentiating themselves more starkly from their mouth-breathing cousins. When you look at how responsive the fan-base is to, say, spontaneous charitable events or how many fine people occupy the Canucks blogosphere - there's really no reason for "Canucks fans" to be regarded so poorly by the majority of other fan-bases.
Changing perception isn't easy, or even possible. I'm down with the #embracethehate campaign for this upcoming season - but to go with it, I'd like to see us grow thicker skins and be less defensive when a news item like today's Lucic controversy surfaces. Whoever harassed Lucic at the Greek Festival is a stupid jack-ass, the people pointing that out aren't necessarily generalizing, or painting us all with the same brush...
@Kent Wilson
that's how i see it as well. it also seems that canucks fans are louder than ever, especially with nothing ever accomplished.
here is a post on my FB wall about a question if Rinne will outplay Luo in the round 2 series: (i live in Vancouver)
Me: if a non-vezina nominee can outplay Luongo, what do you think a vezina nominee can do against Luongo?
"Friend1": Oh too bad khabibulan wasnt nominated eh. Oh wait there golfing right now nevermind.
Me: good one?
"Friend1": Thank You.
Me: too bad khabby still has more cup rings then luongo and that luongo isn't going to win the vezina this year.
"Friend1": Spoken like a true oilers fan, always living in the past.
Me: what have the canucks done in the past 5 years that even matters? celebrate a 1 round win like you guys won a cup, lol.
Me: if the canucks ever had a past, they might celebrate it too. lol
"Friend2": The Canucks underachieved in the playoffs in the past so far and it's disappointing, but they were Northwest division champs 4/5 times, 4 second round appearances, and 2 Art Ross winners. That's a lot better then most teams. We'll see how far they go this year. Oilers missed the playoffs the last 5 years =P
Me: oilers made it to the stanley cup final game 7 in the last 5 years. nice try "friend2"
Your story of the guy behind you at game 5? I'm pretty sure he was next to us at Game 2. I asked him to stop booing the American anthem - my Canuck fan, Vancouverite husband, is from the States. Not to mention there were two Bruins fans from Saskatchewan were on the other side of him. After he got kicked out, my husband and I apologized for his behaviour. They were gracious and said he was not representative of most Canuck fans they'd met. They even shook hands with us 11 seconds later when Burrows scored the OT winner. But I absolutely agree with your call out of the silent majority. We need to make our 'good winner' and 'good loser' side known. We need to take responsibility for the perception issue. Oh, and your reference to Freud's Group Psychology? SO GLAD someone else thought of this. Great post.
August 11 2011, 01:39PM
Good Stuff Thom.
clearly i dont condone people harassing NHL playesr on the street..but my friend did run into Milan last week (on the street in DT vancouver) and asked him for a picture and he was a jerk and told them "no he didnt take pictures on the street with people b/c of facebook and twitter"....seriously, Milan??? granted, i am not sure if this was late at night, outside a nightclub(roxy perhaps?) but still...your fans ask you for a picture and you rudely decline?...cmon bro!
I love this immensely.
I think what frustrates most honest Canucks fans is that there are jerks and a-holes in every team's fan base. However, the sound and vision around the jerk Canucks fans seems to be heavily amplified lately. There is now an attitude here amongst loyal fans of "Go pick on someone else for a while."
But this is the problem with an elite team in a hockey mad market, which also happens to be an internationally renowned city. Jerk fans and their behaviour is a WAY more interesting story when it happens in Vancouver than elsewhere.
When the Canucks are sh!tty again, this will stop being a issue.
August 11 2011, 02:11PM
Prior to twitter, im not lying when I say that I had never met a Canucks fan at a game in Edmonton that was a good sport. My "Can't miss" games are Van and Cgy but the dynamic between those two rivals is very different. With Cgy fans, there is always some quality chirping but at the end of the game, I could shake the guys hand and go for a beer (altho where our arena is now id rather not subject them to what my city has to offer in the area)
With the "perceived" Canucks fans, they are straight up D.elta B.ravos. You shoot some chirps at em and they immediately get defensive. Not in a fun way, in a loser, crybaby sort of way. I get now that this is not all Canucks fans and I do know that there are loser Oiler fans, its just how the majority that you meet are.
At any sports game that I attend, no matter what, I give it to the other fans. I especially love going to Cgy (on a 14 gm losing streak last year) and showing your support even though your team sucks so bad and you continue to give it to them even when we lost I think 6-2. That's what's awesome about sports is the fan interaction.
If my team wins (not very often but it happens!) I make a point to shake the hands of the other teams fans around me who I've had it out with all game and thank them for sticking around and proving they are real fans.
August 11 2011, 02:24PM
Im also going to admit that I was a little butthurt when Cam Ward brought the cup here just because it opened the wound so closely after the scab was just starting to form. That being said, there's no way I wasn't still happy for the guy and not a chance that Id make his experience a bad one for bringing the cup home to celebrate with us.
August 11 2011, 02:33PM
I think the negative perception of the fanbase arose organically from a negative association with the team. After all, the Canucks have employed some of the most notorious scumbags the leagues has seen in the last 5-10 years: Todd Bertuzzi, Matt Cooke, Jarko Ruutu. It's also hard to like Ryan Kesler, Maxim Lapierre and Alex Burrows unless they are on your team as well.
So you have an eminently hate-able roster and a segment of an avid fanbase that is going to rush to adamantly defend "their team" however despicable they might be. Input feedback loop. Now the fans and the club are hated.
August 11 2011, 03:17PM
@edmontoncritic - BRoadwAY
I have to agree. I was at the New Years Day game in Edmonton, between the Flames and Oilers. I sat behind these two [rather large] guys in Oilers jerseys, and I of course donned my Flames Jersey. There were glares and jabs being shot both ways, BUT by the 2nd period we were laughing together and enjoying the game and the rivalry. So I can see what you say about being able to shake hands and have a beer with a fan from another team.
However when I was at the last reg season game between the Flames and Canucks, at the Dome, it was a different story. My wife and I were walking across the parking lot, up to the front steps. As we passed two Canucks fans they were talking about what a bunch of A-holes Calgarians were and how they [pointing at me now] walk around in their ugly Ronald McDonald Jerseys [Heritage Classic] and relish in their 1 and ONLY Stanley Cup!
I had heard enough and turned and replied, "But it's still 1 more than Vancouver has.." To which he lashed back, "Was I F'n talking to you??" I merely shook my head and walked away.
Thomas, this was a great article, and a great read. As a Canadian, I hate the stigma attached to Canucks fans. Hopefully with more writings like this from people and fans like you, that someday, your image as a team's fanbase can be cleared up. Keep it up and Good Luck!
First, I think it was pretty widely publicized that Canucks fans in Boston were not welcomed with opened arms. Most reports incidate that they were much more open with their distain for Canucks fans watching in their barn than we showed here in Vancouver. People are people. There are jerks everywhere. I don't get why we in Vancouver are getting a terrible rep all of a sudden.
Second, why does it make me a bad fan to not want to see Lucic parade in Vancouver with the cup? Just because he is from Vancouver? That is not how pro sports work. Sure I appreciate talent on other teams and I could find some favorites on other teams, but for the most part, if you are a hard nosed player, who plays physical and maybe chirps a bit, I will (sports) hate you automatically during the playoffs. If Lucic brought the cup to Vancouver, it would be rubbing it in my face, although I know this is not his intention. Different story if we didn't lose to them in the finals. I would have probably cheered for him. But the way it turned out? Too soon. It is not that I would spit on him if I saw him on the street. But celebrate it with your friends and family. To me, a Canucks fan would would not want to see you with the cup above your head celebrating a win that was acheived by beating my team. And no, I am no condeming fans who don't share my view. But don't call me a bad fan for not agreeing with you either.
August 12 2011, 10:31AM
Great article, Thom...
As someone who moved last August to this beautiful city and who has fallen quite in love with it I have to say I too was embarrassed to see the riot spoil what had been a really great atmosphere in the city. Let me be clear, i wasnt cheering for the Canucks but how could you not get swept up in the excitement all around town? I felt so upset about it the next day that I woke up early and joined the clean up crew. That morning I saw the city I thought I had come to know; a city which seemed lost behind the smoke of burning upturned vehicles.
I saw regular people stand up in solidarity to attempt to reclaim the story of the previous night. Unfortunately, I think that part of the story got left out. The inspiring one of average citizens standing up for the place they live. Average people who like hockey and cheer for their Canucks but are aware that at the end of the day there are more important things in this world than a hockey game.
I'm a flames fan through and through. But I love this city and I believe in it and its people. I live in one of the most beautiful cities in the world and a few d'bags flipping cars and looting shops do not speak to the heart of this place.
As you say, that majority of honest, good, and tempered citizens is a silent one. It doesn't have to be. I hope it won't be anymore.
I dunno, I'd actually come out and cheer the guy - he's done what every boy from Vancouver always dreamed of doing, and should be able to celebrate it any way he chooses.
It's unfortunate that it had to come at the expense of our Canucks - if it were Boston beating San Jose there would be a freaking parade for the guy.
I understand Canuck fans feelings towards the bruins but Lucic won the Memorial Cup with the Giants and speaking as a Canuck fan i am disgusted at fans who have forgotten this and made Lucic feel unwelcome at home wake up fans and grow up you are no better than the rioters
@Kent Wilson
Well said Kent.
Seriously... No better then the rioters?
Two very different situations, Lucic had the choice to do what he wanted and thats how it went, Media + Boston spinned it that Canucks fans made him not want to celebrate.
At some point we got to stop evaluating ourselves and realize there are dbags and bad seeds everywhere. Riots happend because we had a 100k underpoliced outdoor viewing party.
August 16 2011, 12:38PM
Glad someone has some prespective....that said, I would caution you from feeling "ashamed" or "embarrassed" to be a Canucks fan when jackassary takes hold of these people... but I do understand the sick and disheartening feeling. I've had fans of other teams say I should be ashamed or embarrassed to be a Canucks fan, but I refuse to let the idiots win.To me that's like saying every African American should be ashamed or embarrassed when there is a gang related incident. It's a form of generalization that leads to all the nasty "isms" out there.
I LOVE A GOOD rivalry, the ribbing and the debates I have with my friends are all in good fun and are good natured. I think that's the problem with Canuck fans, they take it so personally like we are insulting their family legacy and insulting Vancouver. umm we're just talking about hockey.
A big problem could be that there is an oversensitive culture built up and a sense of entitlement. Being competitive the last 5 years does not mean you deserve a championship. If that was the case than St. Louis should feel way more entitled with 25 playoff appearances in a row! In addition it just seems that Nuck fans are Canuck fans first and hockey fans second... I'm a die hard Oiler fan and I still tune in to check out Nuck games and any other game, ESPECIALLY during the playoffs! I just love to watch hockey. On a side note Team Finland owes me Olympic tickets for not putting up a fight against the USA...
The perception problem is not an external myopic view from the rest of the world, rather it is a view that Canucks fans have of themselves and project it to the Nth degree. I read this on a forum board the other day "They (Vancouver Fans) don't love hockey so much as they love the idea of having the best hockey team. It's a very different thing that most of them will never understand".
There are some true hockey fans out there and I've met a number of them, but I have yet to have a respectable debate on the Canucks from a stranger at a bar or at one of the games, yet I've been able to talk to Mont fans, TB fans and even...shiver... Leaf fans.
What I can offer is good luck next year, time is running out and this was your first good kick at the can! From what I can see you have about 2 solid years left at being the #1 pick to win it all.
Years ago, I saw a t-shirt (from The Onion) with a blunt criticism that could apply to any sports fan: "The sports team from my area is superior to the sports team from your area." http://store.theonion.com/product/the-sports-team-from-my-area-is-superior-to,39/
This made me ponder the ridiculous behaviour of certain fans. I view that behaviour as a lack of respect for fellow humans. We should support all athletes/organizations and let the better prepared team, on that day, win. Once the game is over, both teams, and their fans, should be moving on to the next competition. Sure it is fun to analyze every aspect of the game, and sometimes a healthy criticism from both sides is a useful part of that experience. But it should end at some reasonable point in time, and it should not transform into hate.
The interesting point here is that where a person is from is basically a random event in which you had no choice--your parents make that choice. Neil Peart calls this the "accidental background" of your life.
Why do we place more value on someone's location, rather than their character? Why would anyone from Vancouver act that way? Lack of sportsmanship (aka sore losers) or a lack of understanding of playing the game at a professional level. In future, hopefully people will recall the words of MLK Jr. Let's judge others by the content of their character and not by the colour of their jersey ("skin").


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When my son was in reception, in his class there is a johovist witness, I have no problem with anyones religion let me just state that.
But this poor little boy it must be hard.
In school when they have assemblies his mother comes to take him out, when its a birthday he doesnt go in.
And when it was Christmas last year she cane to pick him up when they were singing carols, he had to sit out when the children were making crackers and cards!
He is sad and I think that maybe the parent is going over the top!
His friend gets really upset when he cant go to birthdays or wonders why he does not get an invite.


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Fire from the Lord consumes the rebels in Israel—Israel murmurs and lusts for meat instead of manna—Moses complains that he cannot bear the burden alone—He is commanded to choose seventy elders to assist him—The Lord promises meat until it becomes loathsome to the Israelites—The seventy elders are chosen, they prophesy, the Lord comes down, and Eldad and Medad prophesy in the camp—Israel is provided with quail—The people lust, a great plague follows, and many die.
1 And when the people
2 And the people cried unto Moses; and when Moses prayed unto the Lord, the fire was quenched.
3 And he called the name of the place Taberah: because the fire of the Lord burnt among them.
4 ¶And the mixed multitude that was among them fell a
5 We remember the fish, which we did eat in Egypt freely; the cucumbers, and the melons, and the leeks, and the onions, and the garlick:
6 But now our soul is dried away: there is nothing at all, beside this manna, before our eyes.
7 And the
8 And the people went about, and gathered it, and ground it in mills, or beat it in a mortar, and baked it in pans, and made cakes of it: and the taste of it was as the taste of fresh oil.
9 And when the dew fell upon the camp in the night, the manna fell
10 ¶Then Moses heard the people weep throughout their families, every man in the door of his tent: and the anger of the Lord was kindled greatly; Moses also was displeased.
11 And Moses said unto the Lord, Wherefore hast thou afflicted thy servant? and wherefore have I not found favour in thy sight, that thou layest the burden of all this people upon me?
12 Have I conceived all this people? have I begotten them, that thou shouldest say unto me, Carry them in thy bosom, as a nursing father beareth the sucking child, unto the land which thou swarest unto their fathers?
13 Whence should I have flesh to give unto all this people? for they weep unto me, saying, Give us flesh, that we may eat.
14 I am not able to bear all this people alone, because it is too
15 And if thou deal thus with me, kill me, I pray thee,
16 ¶And the Lord said unto Moses, Gather unto me
17 And I will come down and talk with thee there: and I will take of the spirit which is upon thee, and will put it upon them; and they shall
18 And say thou unto the people, Sanctify yourselves against to morrow, and ye shall eat flesh: for ye have wept in the ears of the Lord, saying, Who shall give us flesh to eat? for it was well with us in Egypt: therefore the Lord will give you flesh, and ye shall eat.
19 Ye shall not eat one day, nor two days, nor five days, neither ten days, nor twenty days;
20 But even a whole month, until it come out at your nostrils, and it be loathsome unto you: because that ye have despised the Lord which is among you, and have wept before him, saying, Why came we forth out of Egypt?
21 And Moses said, The people, among whom I am, are six hundred thousand footmen; and thou hast said, I will give them flesh, that they may eat a whole month.
22 Shall the flocks and the herds be slain for them, to suffice them? or shall all the fish of the sea be gathered together for them, to suffice them?
23 And the Lord said unto Moses, Is the Lord's hand waxed short? thou shalt see now whether my word shall come to pass unto thee or not.
24 ¶And Moses went out, and told the people the words of the Lord, and gathered the
25 And the Lord came down in a
26 But there remained two of the men in the camp, the name of the one was Eldad, and the name of the other Medad: and the spirit rested upon them; and they were of them that were written, but went not out unto the tabernacle: and they prophesied in the camp.
27 And there ran a young man, and told Moses, and said, Eldad and Medad do prophesy in the camp.
28 And
29 And Moses said unto him, Enviest thou for my sake? would God that all the Lord's people were
30 And Moses gat him into the camp, he and the elders of Israel.
31 ¶And there went forth a wind from the Lord, and brought
32 And the people stood up all that day, and all that night, and all the next day, and they gathered the quails: he that gathered least gathered ten homers: and they spread them all abroad for themselves round about the camp.
33 And while the flesh was yet between their teeth, ere it was chewed, the wrath of the Lord was kindled against the people, and the Lord smote the people with a very great
34 And he called the name of that place
35 And the people journeyed from Kibroth-hattaavah unto Hazeroth; and abode at Hazeroth.


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lol ya.. I cant believe I overlook that lol... actually... he is defying the Gods for her... directly and leteraly fighting the Gods for the sake of his comrades and his love. Damn Gattsu.... no wonder ur my favorite lol
lol ya.. I cant believe I overlook that lol... actually... he is defying the Gods for her... directly and leteraly fighting the Gods for the sake of his comrades and his love. Damn Gattsu.... no wonder ur my favorite lol
About the glance Gutts gave Schierke, i think it was just because he's worried about his inner beast thingy intending to kill her eventually.
The lil kid could well be gutts and caska's child, something like a polar oposite of griffith occured at the conception in the egg or something along those lines.
And as much as i like caska i think things are only going to get worse for her and gutts, even if she gets her mind restored i think shes going to be compelled to follow griffith, letting her maternal instinct overcome her logic.
I would realy like to see the sane caska reunited with gutts though
oooooh.. yeah that right.. the beast that is chained right now.... is horny as hell.. for blood and sex so i imagine he is worried... nice sangaz, nice.
I do hope u are wrong in the maternal instinct thing... I would hate that shit.... he infected the child and use his body as medium for his reincarnation on earth... he has desecrated the child enough for them to just go and show no mercy on Griffith. But then again... how do u kill a god? I hope Gottsu uses the old, fuck Slan crazy till she falls for him and help Gottsu from within ;p Common gattsu, she is crazy about u boy!
i think only part of caska's memory will be restored.............. maybe that's what the skull knight was saying and because of that caska would want to go back to griffith since she met him first.....
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no, i think he was refering more to what happened with rickert. He knows what happened but due to what they went threw in BOH and the way he looked up to him, Rickert cant hate him "like he should". At least not to the point to kill him or to the point Gottsu does. Maybe Caska doesnt want revenge.. and wishes to leave things as they are and leave with Gattsu... what u think our boy will say? "Sure, lets forget this and go".... HELL NO, there also lies the problem (maybe).


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The Alaska Leadership Team discussed the decreased funding for those programs and how other agencies are facing similar situations. They decided to explore ways to maintain the current level of programs and increase BLM presence in rural communities through partnership opportunities with other federal and state agencies and NGOs with resource conservation/management missions.
A team was assembled to develop a statewide education/interpretation/youth engagement strategy. This would involve partner input and incorporate the current programs offered by BLM-Alaska, continue current partnerships, and create new partnerships to increase capacity for BLM-Alaska and their partners.
The team met internally to identify current programs offered, ways to expand certain programs statewide through support of the CCSC, current and possible partners, and mutual goals/objectives.
BLM-Alaska and its education partners from around the state met on March 12 to explore partnership opportunities in the education/interpretation/youth engagement arenas. The partner outreach meeting was held at the Anchorage District Office, with BLM field offices and partners in Fairbanks and Glennallen participating via videoconference.
While this effort began several months ago, BLM and its partners view sequestration as an added incentive to pool resources and build on one another's successes. Both private and public sector partners agreed the bite of budget cuts will mean working together as never before to bring youth into the outdoors, promote stewardship, and engage youth in the natural sciences.
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Explore the dramatic rock formations, cliffs and trails of the most visited site in the Shawnee National Forest. Millions of years in the making, the Garden of the Gods provides spectacular views unlike anywhere in the Midwest. See Camel Rock, Anvil Rock, Devil's Smoke Stack and other magnificent rock formations in this hiker's and photographer's wonderland.
CITY:Karbers Ridge
The Shawnee National Forest is famed for its awesome Garden of the Gods, and is home to the Rim Rock Recreational Trail (the forest has a system of 403 miles of equestrian/hiking trails). Hikers are greeted by magnificent jutting walls of rock covered with emerald-green moss, and paths that meander through canyons under the forest canopy. Nestled between the Ohio and Mississippi Rivers, the stunning Shawnee National Forest landscape features rolling hills, lakes, creeks and rugged bluffs. If you're into climbing than a must-see is Jackson Falls, located near the town of Ozark in the Hidden Springs Ranger District in Shawnee National Forest. The climb takes place on 60 feet of sandstone cliffs and boulders that include numerous freestanding towers.
Nestled in the beautiful hills of the Shawnee National Forest, Timber Ridge offers something for everyone, from families and honeymooners to outdoor enthusiasts. Enjoy some Southern hospitality while staying in a real log cabin or one-of-a-kind tree house. Each of the units, including the tree house, is equipped with a bathroom, kitchenette, heating and air conditioning. Physical Location: Karbers Ridge, IL 62955 GPS: 37°33'52.18?N 88°20'17.03?W
Egyptian Hills Resort is your passport to the Ultimate outdoor family vacation. Whether you are into waterskiing, wakeboarding, tubing, sport fishing, or pleasure boating; the Lake of Egypt is a boater's paradise. All within a stone's throw of your cabin. Within minutes of your cabin, your family can enjoy guided expeditions such as; horseback riding, rock climbing, mountain biking, kayaking, geo-caching, wildlife photography and many other outdoor activities. Whether planning a single activity or multiple activities for your group, we at Egyptian Hills are your personal concierge in planning your ultimate outdoor family vacation. Whether onsite or through one of our partner guides, all activities are tailored for all ages and experience levels.
CITY:Creal Springs
Located near the town of Ozark in the Shawnee National Forest, Jackson Falls offers arguably the best rock climbing in southern Illinois. There are roughly 60 climbing areas along the sandstone bluffs and freestanding boulders, each with multiple named routes on them. There are over 500 named routes in all. Most of the routes are 50-60 feet in height. The whole area sits in a very scenic glen. Most of the routes at Jackson Falls are sport routes, though there are a number of traditional routes, and a few areas suitable for setting up a top-rope. There are also many excellent bouldering opportunities here.
The Little Grand Canyon trail is located within the Shawnee National Forest. Experience the easy 3.6 miles of beauty it offers as you ride your bike or hike these fun trails that meander past lush wooded canyons, riverside bluffs, songbirds, woodpeckers and deer; while hawks and vultures soar high above the cliffs. Explore towering rock walls, eroded sandstone canyons, craggy bluffs and moist bottom lands, too.
If you want to truly experience the Shawnee National Forest, and Southern Illinois, then the River-to-River Trail in Illinois is for you. The Trail spans 160 miles of Illinois from Battery Rock on the Ohio River to Devil's Backbone Park in Grand Tower Illinois on the Mississippi River, and it can take up to 2-3 weeks to complete in its entirety. With a combination of plains, bayous, bluffs and upland forests, there's something for everyone to feast their eyes on. And, with difficulty levels ranging from easy to hard there's a path for everyone in your party to enjoy.
CITY:Karbers Ridge
Pyramid Acres Campground & Marina
Offers gas, bait, tackle, ice, beer, groceries, contour maps and camping with water and electricity. Open all year. Located at the northeastern edge of the lake.
Lake of Egypt is a privately owned reservoir located six miles south of Marion, Illinois and covers 2,300 acres with 90 miles of shoreline. The lake has an average depth of 18 feet. The lake is owned by the Southern Illinois Power Cooperative (SIPC), who created the impoundment in 1962, by damming the South fork of the Saline River, to supply cooling water for a coal-burning electric power plant.
Crab Orchard National Wildlife Refuge
Crab Orchard National Wildlife Refuge is located primarily in Williamson County, with small extensions into eastern Jackson and northeastern Union counties of southern Illinois. At almost 44,000 acres and with three lakes (Crab Orchard, Little Grassy, and Devils Kitchen,) endless opportunities abound for watching wildlife, hiking nature trails, photography, swimming, fishing from the bank or by boat, and hunting. Four seasonally operational campgrounds are open from April-October and offer full hook-up, water, electric, or non-electric sites. Refuge staff and volunteers at the visitor center welcome visitors and sightseers 7 days a week from 8am-4:30pm. Visitor activities such as guided hikes, bald eagle tours, and monthly F.U.N. programs help connect families with the diversity of flora and fauna that Southern Illinois has to offer. The Refuge provides many opportunities for wildlife-dependent outdoor recreation for the nature lover in us all.
We offer 2 cabins and 131 campsites. Enjoy the biking/running trails, bird/eagle watching, hiking, horseback riding trails, hunting, rock climbing, rappelling and the Shawnee National Forests.
Lusk Creek Canyon is the most well known whitewater run in Southern Illinois. The creek starts out in woodland bottoms with relatively minor gradient but soon is surrounded by rocky hillsides and cliffs. These cliffs rise out of the water to heights over one hundred feet. After the canyon section, the cliffs recede and the creek is surrounded by forest for the final mile. Rapids on this creek are at low to moderate levels and are mostly Class II in nature. However, this is not a good beginner run. This creek flows through forests before entering the canyon.
Located on the northeast corner of Johnston City, this 35-acre lake includes a paved boat ramp for fishing, walking path, and campground. Only electric motors and canoes are permitted. You will find largemouth bass, bluegill, redear sunfish, black and white crappie, and channel catfish in this small reservoir. Pedal boat rentals are available from July-September.
CITY:Johnston City
Egyptian Hills Resort is your passport to the Ultimate outdoor family vacation. Whether you are into waterskiing, wakeboarding, tubing, sport fishing, or pleasure boating; the Lake of Egypt is a boater's paradise. All within a stone's throw of your cabin. Our cabins and chalets sit next to soothing, running streams and waterfalls – with breathtaking lake front views. Each cabin/chalet features a full kitchen, living room, large deck, full bedroom, 2 loft bedrooms and full bath.
CITY:Creal Springs
Lake Glendale Beach & Campground
Beautiful beach located on the shore of an 80 acres lake in the heart of the Shawnee National Forest. Beach open Memorial Day-Labor Day, 7 days a week. Concessions available
Little Lusk Trail Lodge & Campground
Centrally located in the Shawnee National forest, campgrounds have all the hookups; lodge has 6 rooms; beach, fishing, horseback riding at its best; box stalls for horses; hunters welcome; great hiking & mountain biking.
34 Ranch Horseman's Campground
34 Ranch offers the largest privately-owned horseman's campground in Southern Illinois. Located in Hardin and Pope Counties in the midst of the beautiful Shawnee National Forest. Open year round. One cabin is primitive without plumbing. The other two have both baths and kitchens. The ranch also has 250 modern campsites and can accommodate RV's. Rents out cabins and one trailer. Owner: Tom Luchies.
Located in Rosiclare City Park, the River Walk offers great views of the Ohio River. The walk is handicapped accessible with benches for those who want to rest and enjoy the view.
Kids will enjoy three huge bouncers, two in-ground trampolines, and an awesome jungle gym with a ball pit and a 16-foot slide. Also offers dance, cheer, tumbling, wrestling, and gymnastics classes.
Affordable family lodging, cabins, campers and primitive camping. One cabin has kitchenette, covered shelter, air, tv/vcr, wood burning stove, electric and water shower available. One cabin has sleeping for six or more, electric, water, grill and shaded area. We have excellent walking and riding trails, 40 acres. Horses welcome. Lots of shaded areas for tent camping and fishing pond. We are minutes away from Ohio River, Tower Rock Park boat ramp, Elizabethtown boat ramp, good eating places, LakeTucumseh and Woopie Cat, Iron Furnace, Stone Face, Garden of the Gods, Rim Rock, Cave-in-Rock and lots of scenic views. Children and pets welcome.
Egyptian Hills Campground & Marina
Eastern side of Lake of Egypt. Facility offers full service, boat rentals, restaurants, bait, tackle, guide service, launching and RV rentals.
CITY:Creal Springs
Offers locally grown strawberries, Mirai sweet corn, potatoes, cabbage, cucumbers, peppers, tomatoes, green beans, turnips, melons and zucchini. Open mid June to mid October, Monday through Friday 9am to 6pm and Saturday 9am to 3pm. Closed on Sundays.
Bryant's Miniatures features miniature horses, llamas and George the camel. Children and adults are welcome to enjoy the animals at this hands-on facility.
CITY:Norris City
This 18-hole course, designed by renowned golf architect Steve Smyers, was named by Travel + Leisure as one of "America's 100 Best Courses for $100 or Less." Kokopelli offers a full-service pro shop, professionals who offer personal golf instruction and an eight-acre practice facility. This course has a restaurant, lounge, and banquet facilities available.
They offer new and used boats, seasonal slip rental, boat lauch, boat dock and lift sales, rental pontoon boats, rental fishing boats, full line of boating accessories, full convenience store, package beer, liquor and wine.
This fun, challenging course includes nine, 36 par holes, and is open spring, summer and fall. The club offers a full pro shop and snack bar.
Ray Fosse Park is centrally located and offers playground equipment, four lighted picnic shelters, picnic tables, tennis courts, seven baseball fields, Goofy Golf, batting cages & three concession stands and the Park District's Aquatic Center. The Aquatic Center traditionally opens the last weekend in May. The facility includes swimming pool, diving boards, water slide and separate baby pool with a mushroom sprinkler fountain. You can contact the Aquatic Center, during open season, at (618) 997-1115. Goofy Golf and Batting Cages open in April.
Bordering the refuge on N.E. corner. Traditional hunting of the highest quality. Only 2 hunters per pit with experienced mandatory guides, two pits, 1-water access, 1000 decoys, free snacks. Over forty-two years as an experienced club.
Located in ridge above creek, over two mile creek bank fishing, natural marina on three mile creek, peaceful, scenic beauty.
Saline County Conservation Area
Long before the first settlers appeared, the Indians made salt from their "Great Salt Springs." This site encompasses nearly 1,250 acres of bottomland and heavily timbered hills.
Ten Mile Creek State Fish and Wildlife Area
5,800 acres vary from flat bottomlands to rolling forestlands. Fields throughout the site provide for 1,000 acres of planted food for wildlife. Game hunting for rabbit, quail and waterfowl is allowed. Fishing is available at 25 strip-pit lakes and ponds.
Hamilton County State Fish And Wildlife Area
The 1,683-acre site has a 75-acre lake where families can picnic, fish, paddle boat, camp and enjoy the good food at the on-site restaurant.
Paradise Acres is a waterfowl hunters paradise.Located approximately 2 miles south of Route 37 in Southern Illinois. Seasonal or daily memberships available. Onsite lodging available.
Saline County Golf & Country Club
This beautiful Southern Illinois course features 18 par 70 holes, and is open year round. The club also features a full pro shop and snack bar, plus golf club rental.
Opened in 1986, this indoor rink is open seasonally from August to May. Public skating sessions are the main attraction but the rink is available for private parties as well. Large arcade, snack bar and Skate Shop on site.
This course offers an immaculate Bermuda fairway and bent green grass, par71 course. Franklin County also features a fine dining restaurant, locker rooms and a pro shop. Just 8 miles south of Rend Lake.
CITY:West Frankfort
Stardust Golf and Country Club
Stardust offers 9 holes of golf with a par of 36. Winter golf is available. Amenities include club and cart rental and a snack bar.
CITY:Johnston City
Little Egypt Public OHV Recreational Area
Little Egypt Off Road MC is a young club that aims to pursue, promote, and protect interest of motorcyclists in a social and athletic setting. They offer a public off road riding area. They have 860 Acres to ride, miles of trails, mud areas to play, hill climbs, scenic areas to stop and enjoy, and two MX tracks to play on.
Offers private lessons on gaited horses, indoor and outdoor facilities, lessons for all ages and skill levels and lesson packages available. Beginners, refreshers, pleasure or show. Home of several world champion walking horses. Call for reservations.
CITY:Creal Springs
Frankfort Community Aquatics & Activities Center
Located at the West Frankfort City Park, this newly built indoor 25-meter six lane pool is open to the public; classes and activities available, handicap accessible, lifeguard on site, open every day.
CITY:West Frankfort
Duck and goose hunting, 1 blind, waterfront, decoys available. Lunch provided.
CITY:Creal Springs
Hunt from heated pits over flooded corn, natural wetlands, food plots, and over 2 miles of levee controlled water on 100 acres. 530 total acres devoted to waterfowl hunting, excellent duck hunting. Corporate rates and custom packages available. Located 1 mile south of Marion on the west side of Route 37.
Locally owned sporting goods store opened in 1980. Specializes in hunting and fishing accesories, apparel, and much more. Find decoys, ammunition, and archery supplies all in one stop.
McLeansboro Golf Club is a nine-hole semi-private club located on the west side of McLeansboro, IL. The course features small bent grass greens and Bermuda fairways. With two reachable par 5's and a drivable par 4, birdies and eagles are possible. However, with two challenging par 3's and with OB or ditches that could come into play on 7 of the 9 holes big numbers are also a real possibility.
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Hayes Canyon Campground and Cabins
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Pirate Pete's Family Entertainment Center
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A state-licensed hunting preserve, we provide hunters with a good environment and quality deer management. Also quail, pheasant,chukar and dove hunting available. Package prices available upon request for walk-in hunts, corporate & business hunts.
Mandala Gardens offers pathways of beauty and hidden benches. Find quiet sitting spots, have a chat with our goats, chickens, and ducks, and simply enjoy the day. We have a rainbow variety of heirloom vegetables and potted herbs available for purchase when in season. If you are interested in holding a wedding or reunion or other event here, contact us for fees and dates. We also host senior photos, maternity photos, homecoming and prom photos, etc. for a small fee. The money earned from entrance fees and herbs/vegetable sales is directly invested into growing Mandala Gardens.
The HUB Recreation Center is a 64,000 sq. ft. building where activities such as swimming, exercising, and playing sports radiate throughout the facility. The first floor includes the following: Lounge area, snack bar, gymnasium, first aid, competition pool, therapy pool, recreation pool featuring a water slide, lazy river, wading pool, party rooms, conference room, youth center, men's locker room, women's locker room, and family locker room, pool viewing area and on-site child watch for members. The second floor includes the following: Three lane running/walking track, cycling room, two group exercise rooms, free weights, elliptical, machine training, treadmills and more. We encourage members and guests to explore the state-of-the-art amenities we offer Southern Illinois and beyond.
Just Add Water Bait, Tackle & More LLC
Just before you get to the Lake of Egypt stop in to Just Add Water and get yourself some bait. Break a rod? No problem. We have bait, tackle, and rods as well. Check out our large selection of multi-color baits. No matter if your fishing with minnows or spinners, we have it all.
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You might not consider flavor as being a key player in prevention of disease or promotion of health. However, your perception of flavors contributes greatly to your acceptance and general liking of foods. For example, if you don't like the taste of vegetables, it's a good bet you avoid them. How then can you eat a healthy, balanced diet?
Instead of focusing on what you don't like, try focusing on what you do. Let's start with sweet — a flavor preference for most people. Did you know that some vegetables — sugar snap peas, red bell peppers and corn — have a sweet taste? Even onions can be sweet when you caramelize them. Another vegetable to try is winter squash. Cut in half or quarter and roast or microwave to have an easy meal of mildly sweet, slightly earthy flavors and soft texture that merits inclusion in the comfort food category. Not sweet enough for you? Peel, dice and roast the squash until slightly brown to experience a sweeter taste.
Maybe sweet isn't your first preference. The following options offer a mild sweetness that along with their other attributes might appeal to you. If you like foods that are crisp and crunchy, try jicama. You can cut it into thin strips and add it to a pita or wrap sandwich. In addition to flavor, you'll get fiber and vitamin C. Cucumbers are another good combination of cool and crisp. Mix them in vinegar for a stronger, pungent flavor.
But perhaps savory flavors are more to your liking. Mushrooms are a good bet. Try them sauteed. Or toss them in a stir fry, on a salad or in a sandwich.
Looking for something spicier? Peppers offer a spectrum of flavors — from mild and earthy to sweet and hot. Stuff a poblano or bell pepper with whole grains, veggies, and grated parmesan or blue cheese. Or add them to soups, salads and casseroles to punch up the flavor and boost the potassium and vitamin C content.
I encourage you to experiment with new foods and familiar foods prepared in new ways. Share your flavorful findings here to inspire others.
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What is your opinion, health-wise, on the Paleo Diet?
Corn isn't a vegatable; it's a grain best avoided given that most of it in the US is GMO.
Nice blog to suggest us to how to select nutritious food and how to use them in our diet. This is good suggestion that any food we don't like we should avoid it and go for some healthy food that is suitable to us.
i have read your article on peppers. i love the fact that you suggest that we can stuff a poblano or bell pepper with whole grains, veggies, and grated parmesan or blue cheese. Or add them to soups, salads and casseroles to punch up the flavor and boost the potassium and vitamin C content.
I just read this site's article on the Mediterranean way of eating and I'm ready to try it. The article mentions that folks in Greece stick primarily to the Mediterranean diet. I'm puzzled since our local Greek community hosts festivals and, wow, the food is anything but Mediterranean! Full of oozy cheese (feta and other), lots of lamb, very oily, and yummie pastries. I'm going to forge on with trying these foods, but do you have any insight into what I experience locally with Greek food and the recommended Mediterranean diet?
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Hi Paul - thank you for your comment. Your observation that cooking does alters foods and heat changes naturally occurring carbohydrates and proteins into sweeter substances (caramelization) is correct. You're also correct that caramelization contributes to AGEs. However the role of AGEs and health remain an area of investigation. Their properties seem contradictory: pro- and antioxidant, pro- and anti mutagenic, some think that they are toxic whereas others are exploring their protective properties. Our own bodies naturally produce AGEs too. Practically speaking, it's fortunate that people do not over cook/char foods nor eat them daily – this includes caramelized onions. Also, the point of the blog was to encourage people to explore variety – within food types and cooking methods. I realize that I may take some "heat" for this response.
"Even onions can be sweet when you caramelize them."
That would be an unhealthy action since caramelizing anything greatly increases its content of unhealthy advanced glycosylation endproducts (AGEs).
Good tips here. The title of the article drew me in, since I am *guilty-face* one of those people who was corrupted since birth with sweets and sugary drinks.
I have been working to eat better, one small step at a time. I have tried cutting out all unhealthy things at once and find that largely impractical.
Every trip I go to the grocery store I buy slightly healthier stuff, but still some gummy snacks and other nutrient-less crap food. I try to make it a type of mental game, where I see how long I can make the unhealthy stuff last (by not avoiding eating it).
Yes, it's stupid, childish, and overall ridiculous....but hey, it works for me.
Hope this might help some other readers...
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Pat Steinberg
March 10 2010 09:05AM
It's funny, I never thought this would be that much of a topic, but it has been the last three Overtime shows on The FAN 960. Calgary has played four games since the Olympic break, and has had a pretty consistent lineup in those games. The only changes they've made have been subtle. Conroy in for Backlund. Staios in for Pardy, due to a trade. Other than that, things have been pretty static. So where does this leave Brian McGrattan?
I write this more to hear what the FN has to say. To me, it's a no-brainer. Calgary's success the last three games has come for a few different reasons. One of them has been their ability to roll four lines. The four forward lines have been able to wear teams down by a constant forecheck and a constant cycle down low in the opposing end. The back pressure has been good. Forcing turnovers and the blueline, forcing bad passes between the blues. And for the most part, it's been there from start to finish. But most importantly, we've seen it from everyone.
The last two games, Jarome Iginla's line has been the most dangerous. But instead of having a drop off when they get on the ice, it's carried over. Langkow's line goes out and has a strong shift. Then Conroy's line goes out and gets some pressure. And the fourth line is able to do the same things. Mayers-Nystrom-Glencross have been able to play solid minutes, and the ice times bear that out.
Almost every forward, at the end of a game, is up above 10 minutes on the ice. Mayers hasn't been, he's been averaging around 9:30 the last few games. His linemates usually get closer to the 12 or 13 minute range, mostly because they play PK time. So at the end of the night, you see an even-strength fourth line playing around nine or 10 minutes together. And they do good things, when they're playing.
To me, that leaves McGrattan as an easy odd man out. I think he's fine in his role, but right now, I think Calgary is rocking because of their ability to roll four lines, at least in part. McGrattan doesn't give you that ability. But maybe I'm off base, I don't know. It's been brought up on Overtime, with callers wondering why he's not in. So maybe I'm in the minority.
March 10 2010, 09:27AM
I agree. It helps to have a functional 4th line. Of course, I've considered goons to be useless for a couple of years now, so...
I still think he's better than the last guy to wear #10
McGrattan has a role and plays it relatively well... but with a healthy roster in Calgary, there's no way he should be dressed as a regular other than maybe for the purpose of shaking up a struggling team. I'm guessing this will be a near-unanimous consensus 'round these parts.
To me, these types of players have little value post-trade deadline. I'd much rather prefer guys like Brandon Prust, Arron Asham, Rick Rypien, Chris Neil, even a Darcy Hordichuk, guys that can at least play 6 or 8 minutes. Guys like Boogaard that contribute nothing and play 1:30 need to be removed from the game. And I like fighting.
With them rolling four lines, perhaps they can finally put a "figure-four" on the competition ~ that was my shot at a Gene Principe-like pun...
McGratten is currently #15 on the depth chart, and that's where he needs to stay.
Rick Rypien Darcy Hordichuk
I agree with your general point but these two players you cite are just awful. They get dominated against weaklings, constantly spending shift after shift in their own zone.
I don't mind a useful replacement-level player who can also fight, in the Georges Laraque mold let's say.
That said, fourth lines only have two roles as far as I can tell: 1.) Taking a few shifts here and there to give the main EV units some rest. 2.) Moving up the depth chart in case of injury.
For both roles I would much prefer that our fourth line be occupied by Dawes types, guys who will dominate similar level opposition and move up a line if required.
March 10 2010, 02:56PM
On the bright side, McGrats has more time to focus on his other interests. Speaking of which, what is everyone's favorite type of whiskey?
March 10 2010, 04:23PM
On the bright side, McGrats has more time to focus on his other interests. Speaking of which, what is everyone's favorite type of whiskey?
Bourbon. Sweet Bourbon. Makers Mark or Knob Creek.
I don't think Mayers is very useful. About the only thing he can do above average is win a faceoff and that's a highly overrated ability. Glencross drives the play on the fourth line, that's clear.
I don't know much about Nystrom's game at centre but if he can do it then I would let Dawes draw in right away over Mayers. Although honestly I'm not that big on Nystrom, fast and hard working but not all that good at playing hockey (on the wing).
And boot Backlund to the minors, he is not helping the team or himself in the bigs.
So to answer your question, Mayers is the odd man out.
I don't dislike Big-Ern but I also feel as though he's somewhat superfluous. There have been a few games this year where his line has been the best one out there but that doesn't mean it was because of him.
He's an entertaining fighter and can spark the team but like RossCreek said, if a guy's only playing a buck and half, why is he dressing?
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See also Administration to the Sick; Oil
In ancient times, the Lord's prophets anointed with oil those who would perform special duties, such as Aaron or the priests or the kings who would rule over Israel. In the Church today, to anoint is to place a drop or two of consecrated oil on a person's head as part of a special blessing. This can be done only under the authority and power of the Melchizedek Priesthood. After the anointing, a person acting by authority of that same priesthood may seal the anointing and give a special blessing to the one anointed.
- Anoint them, and consecrate them that they may minister unto me:Ex. 28:41; ( Lev. 8:6–12, 30; )
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IAN F. W. BECKETT became Professor of History at University College, Northampton (UK) in January 2005, having occupied the Major General Matthew C. Horner Chair of Military Theory at the U.S. Marine Corps University, Quantico, from 2002 to 2004. He was formerly Professor of Modern History at the University of Luton (United Kingdom) and Senior Lecturer in War Studies at the Royal Military Academy, Sandhurst. He was also Visiting Professor of Strategy at the U.S. Naval War College, Newport, in 1992-93. Mr. Beckett's publications include Modern Insurgencies and Counterinsurgencies (2001) and The Encyclopaedia of Guerrilla Warfare (1999) while he was UK editor of Small Wars and Insurgencies from 1990 to 1997.
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Insurgency in Iraq: An Historical Perspective
January 01, 2005
Authored by Dr. Ian F.W. Beckett.
This monograph considers the patterns of past insurgencies by way of establishing how much the conflict in Iraq conforms to previous experience. In particular, the author compares and contrasts Iraq with previous Middle Eastern insurgencies and suggests that there is much that can be learned from British, French, and Israeli experience.