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Type: Improvement
Status: Closed
Priority: Major
Resolution: Fixed
Affects Version/s: 2.0
Fix Version/s: 2.0
Component/s: Navigation
Affected Branches:MOODLE_20_STABLE
Fixed Branches:MOODLE_20_STABLE
(I think Tim Hunt came up with this idea originally some months ago, but I really like it and want to see it 2.0.)
The idea is to move all the "modes" for a module into consistent tabs that are visible all the time (assuming you have permissions). This way we could make roles much easier to get to, and we'd also remove some of the inconsistent buttons and links we have.
So for example, the Assignment module would have a consistent top row of tabs all the time:
- View
- Submissions
- Update activity
- Assign roles
- Override permissions
Quiz module top row:
- Info
- Results
- Preview
- Edit
- Update activity
- Assign roles
- Override permissions
Thoughts? Votes?
This issue has been hijacked and edited to cover the changes that will be coming about in Moodle 2.0 that are inline with the original intent of this issue.
It will now be used for the modifications that are being made as part of the changes coming into play regarding the Moodle 2.0 Navigation Implementation
See here: http://docs.moodle.org/en/Development:Navigation_2.0_implementation_plan#Navigation
Apparently related to these mockups: http://docs.moodle.org/en/Development:Navigation_2.0#Solution_1
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CONTRIB-528 Quiz UI redesign, based on usability research
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MDL-6353 The interface for putting page breaks into quizzes is confusing
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- is duplicated by
MDL-2493 Link back to main page from activity pages
- Closed
- will be (partly) resolved by
CONTRIB-3449 Upgrade hotpot module to make use of the new navigation blocks
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MDL-14639 META BUG: GSoC 2008 Usability Issues
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I like the idea
But the risk is that all infos doesn't fit on the page
For Quiz module, with all the things you wrote, i'm not sure it will fit in one line...
Smaller tabs? More rows? Combine some? ("Management"?) Other solutions?
The 'Preview' tab probably could be removed - make it into a button from the Edit screen (that launches a popup or a separate, student-view-ish sequence of pages)?
Leaving aside quiz module I think it's a quite good idea and would like to see this. My only concern is that it makes modules a bit ugly/non-studentview-y, i.e. when you have edit permission you always see this row of tabs, no way to get rid of it. But it's only a bit more obtrusive than the current 'Update' button so maybe that makes no difference.
As usability (both senses) changes go, re the two roles screens that apply to activities,
MDL-9466 and MDL-8312 are probably more important. But I would say that wouldn't I.
The main object is to help the user knows all the thing he can do from one point.
This can become more like the menu lists on a word processor but Moodle is inside a browser.
we got a structure like Acrobat Reader
and Moodle complexify is growing.
The screen problem : which size set as a standard (more than 800*600!)
The language problem and the relation with the text length...
Setting some prototypes could help the discussion and can be a good summer work...
As I'm working on for french MoodleMoot 2008, writing a conference on how to develop an activity module, I was categorizing modules in two main ranges :
The first one I call sequential modules, where activity is proceeded by phase of actvity as linear process or maybe a more complex workflow. The second one I call it "sub application", which has rather a parallel access or tree-organisation just as a Web site.
Maybe the design of a sequential module may not have need of tabs, as only one screen of the module might be available at the same time for one user class. Of course more complex modules should merge both approaches, having a major sequential design but with accessories that might be accessed all the time.
In my older devs, Techproject was typically a sub-application, with very little workflow activity. Brainstorm (unpublished yet, but largely reviewed) was typically offering both, configuration selectable. This is the typical example of switch where tabs are required and help a lot usability when all phases of brainstorming may be accessed simultaneously, but where a teacher might choose to use it as a full sequential process. Tracker is such a sub-application, as was logical for that kind of function. Flashcard is getting rather a sequential module switching between two action screens for the student, and becoming a more parallel device for the teacher that has to access to status screens.
Usually, as a module is reviewed and enhanced, gaining in complexity, there are IMO very few situation where a pure sequential or pure parallel access may survive. We should quite always need both, even if the major behaviour of a module twicks to one or the other side.
Question : what would we do with a single tab bar, when functional design concludes we do not need more ?
Anyway, I vote in favour !!
Nice idea, as a newbie to Moodle one thing that stodd out for me early on was the need to scan the page looking for form buttons for various actions like "Update this thing", locating them near the end-user actions seems a good move.
Also, a tab-d layout would also fit nicely/easily with any of the AJAX libraries that support tab layout widgets.
Very good idea. I second Dean's comment - a lot of options are hidden behind multiple clicks and it acts as a moderate barrier to entry for new teachers, who need to be helped to discover things.
Martin - I think this might be a great area for Laia to work on even if it is a bit tedious. The idea would be to go through each of the core modules and identify what the tabs would be. I see to a large degree this has been done but it would be nice to have a table indicating areas where additional tabs are needed, to evaluate tab order, and general stuff like that. There is also the possibility of moving tabs using javascript mentioned in the Fluid project which I think plays into what Dean mentioned with support tab layout widgets. I think I might prefer javascript to AJAX as my impression has been that AJAX generally slows the page down especially for large courses. Again, some research on comparing these appoaches could be useful to the developers as we try to figure out how best to implement the tabs.A question for Laia that I would have is under what circumstances would tabs cause more confusion or not be recommended? Peace - Anthony
Anthony - I have studied what you suggested in http://docs.moodle.org/en/Student_projects/Usability_issues/Tabs analyzing the best structure of the tabs and its best implementation (which I found that AJAX is the best implementation) Moreover, I look the Tab Usability Guidelines described at Jakob Nielsen's Website (http://www.useit.com/alertbox/tabs.html) and I found that it would improve Moodle's usability if the currently selected tab is highlighted. I think this feature should be in all Moodle pages where tabs are used. I added this guidelines to the developer usability guidelines I am writing (http://docs.moodle.org/en/Student_projects/Usability_issues/T7).
I also think it is a good idea to
a) keep navigation across modules as consistent as possible (as long as it does not interfere with each module's specific use cases)
b) have configuration in a more obvious place than it is now (with a more obvious label than "update this [modulename]")
c) do something about the fact that quiz configuration now has a set of tabs of its own (there is no clear return route for users from those tabs to the main quiz set of tabs, or communication about the relationship between the two different sets of tabs).
This change seems to have a chance to solve the above. However, I do think that deciding to just "add tabs" as a means to improve usability is very superficial. There are big issues in the configuration screens, which will not be solved by this change. If a major change is introduced (the configuration is moved to another location), it would be best to take a good look at the configuration screens so that major changes need not be introduced in many subsequent versions. With the following, my intention is not to bash others' valuable work, but to demonstrate the fact that a superficial decision of whether configuration should be a tab or a button might not address the actual issues.
Expressed in another way, there seems to be no notion here of taking the actual usage scenarios into account, although this is an UI-level change. Moving functionality into tabs may help, adding consistency probably will, but unless you look at these changes in the context of the use cases and more broadly, the actual usage scenarios, you don't even know if this is really that relevant to users or not. Of course some kind of a personal context is – to some degree – in the heads of everybody discussing here. However, knowing whether or not that is representative of real users would require communicating the actual scenarios and use cases affected by the current state or the proposed change.
That said, what comes to my mind quickly are that the different options should be analyzed throughly and it should be determined with real users. To get a bit deeper, different information gathering methods can be used to:
- which settings are basic ones that every user of quiz should consider, and which ones are advanced settings
- which settings or their outcomes are not understood by users at all
- which interdependencies between settings are not understood by users from the current UI
- what are reasonable defaults for different usage scenarios
Laia: As reported by several users and John Isner in the conversations (http://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=72828#p326446 ) we have had about Quiz editing UI, the subtabs of editing quiz, related to the question bank, are enormousy confusing. They communicate a wrong conceptual model for the relationship of quiz and questoin bank: they say that question bank is something that is subordinate (inside) to quizzes, when in fact they are independent to all the quizzes of a course. Users are initialy led to understand the application wrong. A suitable method for switching between category and quiz views is under consideration, since the tabs are unbearably misleading, but perhaps some other kind of a navigational mode would work. I will propose a way to go about with this in the Quiz UI.
However, I am strongly in favour of your proposal (http://docs.moodle.org/en/Student_projects/Usability_issues/Tabs) of adding a separate top-level "settings" tab, under which the current settings and roles/permissions could reside (and not convolute, for example, the exparience of grading quizzes, with having too many unrelated top-level configuration tabs).
Just FYI, I came across the YUI tabview widget yesterday and it looks like it makes adding AJAX for the tab loading pretty easy.
This issue has been hijacked and edited to cover the changes that will be coming about in Moodle 2.0 that are inline with the original intent of this issue.
It will now be used for the modifications that are being made as part of the changes coming into play regarding the Moodle 2.0 Navigation Implementation
See here: http://docs.moodle.org/en/Development:Navigation_2.0_implementation_plan#Navigation
Hi Tim,
I've put a bit of work into this one over the past couple of days in order to produce an initial concept patch for the global navigation block.
I've attached the patch to the issue now and if you find a couple of minutes to give it a whirl that'd be great. It's still very early on for that patch but I'd like to get some feedback from you regarding this encase I am off on a wrong tangent.
Yet another patch, this time with global nav, nav bar, and settings nav
Latest Patch: global.navigation.040809.patch
There are two new icons as well which will be missing currently, t/reload.png, and t/collapse_empty.png
Latest patch: global.navigation.050809.patch
Deprecated (print/build)_navigation, and squashed a few bugs
I have a busy week this week. I will try to take a look at this some time, but don't hold your breath.
Latest patch: global.navigation.100809.patch
Cheers all who look at this for me
Hi Tim, not a worry, Martin's commiting a bit of time to have a look at this for me before he shoots off today.
If you do find any time to have a look at it I'd love to get your feedback
This is the latest patch, I've uploaded it ASAP so that you can grab it before you leave tonight Martin.
The latest changes on moodle head caused a few conflicts but I believe I have most of them sorted, hopefully no killer bugs.
This patch also has a known issue in the Javascript that I can't seem to reproduce when I want to. Sometimes moving the mouse over a link will cause the sidepanel divs mosueout event to fire... not good it closes the div. I'll look into this an any issues that I havnt' found caused by the last update tomorrow.
Have a good night.
Hi Sam,
I've applied the patch and am seeing that the breadcrumb is now showing the course category and that the course has an icon up there as well. Also blocks seem to open/close on javascript. Is there a specification somewhere stating what are the changes that this tracker item/project nowadays implies? Thanks.
Latest patch: global.navigation.140809.patch
Some big stuff has happened in this patch, many bug fixes, and is nearly 100% cross browser compatible I think with only one known issue in IE7 when mouseover expansion is enabled and the mouse is moved across expanded elements.
Left on my todo list is to performance test this with a LARGE site
Thanks for the question Olli, check out http://docs.moodle.org/en/Development:Navigation_2.0_globalnav_proposal
I am still working on it as there is ALOT that has changed since I wrote the first version (mostly to do with my understanding of Moodle)
Ooops, just noticed that Netbeans put `\ No newline at end of file` into the patch file several times.
For anyone applying this patch please edit the patch and remove all instance of `\ No newline at end of file` before you try and apply it.
Hmm, patch seems to be missing: lib/javascript-navigation.js
Stack trace:
line 131 of /lib/ajax/ajaxlib.php: coding_exception thrown
line 98 of /blocks/global_navigation_tree/block_global_navigation_tree.php: call to page_requirements_manager->js()
line 832 of /blocks/moodleblock.class.php: call to block_global_navigation_tree->get_content()
line 364 of /blocks/moodleblock.class.php: call to block_tree->formatted_contents()
line 796 of /lib/blocklib.php: call to block_base->get_content_for_output()
line 855 of /lib/blocklib.php: call to block_manager->create_block_contents()
line 312 of /lib/blocklib.php: call to block_manager->ensure_content_created()
line 40 of /theme/standard/layout-home.php: call to block_manager->region_has_content()
line 750 of /lib/outputrenderers.php: call to include()
line 704 of /lib/outputrenderers.php: call to moodle_core_renderer->render_page_t
Latest patch: global.navigation.170809.patch
Made sure that Netbeans didn't insert any rubbish into this patch.
Still did not manage to actually do anything after applying the patch. Please beep me again when you have any documentation from the user's point of view (use cases/usage scenarios) that I could try and evaluate the user experience. Thanks!
Sam, I am waiting for this to be ready/committed before I can go ahead and change the calls to print_header() throughout Moodle. I am not yet sure what the API for $OUTPUT->header() will end up as, so I cannot make this change yet.
Maybe, once the patch is in CVS, you could start by updating a couple of "normal" pages with the new way to use navigation and $OUTPUT->header(), and edit http://docs.moodle.org/en/index.php?title=Development:Outputting_HTML_in_2.0&action=edit§ion=23
Keep up the good work
Latest patch global.navigation.210809.patch
Tidied up a few more minor bugs, and have written unit tests.
Hi Olli,
I'll talk to Jordan when he's in next (he's been sick for the last couple of days) and see if I can set up a demo site somewhere so that people can have a look at it.
More random new feedback from playing with it and looking at last patch (beyond feedback from last friday)
Blocks in general:
- B1) Should only be able to add Navigation and Settings to a page once. There is a setting for that in the block class somewhere.
- B2) I would personally prefer if the popout appeared on mouseover, without needing a click. Like menus on moodle.org.
- B3) The popout block seems to float away from the edge ... can it be anchored to the button (more like a menu).
- B4) If the defaultstyle is going to take up that bit of real estate on the side all the time then I definitely think it should scroll with the page. Currently you scroll down and even though there is space for it the popout blocks are not there (and they easily could be)
In the navigation block:
- N1) I think the topmost level item should be "Home" instead of the site name
- N2) The tooltips are mostly just replicating the name of the links (except for course shortname/fullname which is OK). Can the others be more descriptive? ie "Course category" for the categories, "Forum" for the forums (and same for all activities) etc.
- N3) I think "Switch Position" could describe the next action, like "Display as popup" and "Display as block" with a little icon showing what it will do when you press it. So something like: []<=
In the Settings block:
- S1) When adding an activity or resource, the module name being passed to modedit.php is the item name in the menu. This means it works OK for one-word modules that match the actual module name but not for others (eg try any assignment or SCORM/AICC).
- S2) Reload navigation should just be a little reload icon in the navigation menu.
- S3) Same problem with tooltips replicating the menu item exactly. If they don't add any information then leave them out.
Re B1) - I have a nasty feeling that in blocklib.php, the function that works out if a block is already present on a page is still a TODO. Needs to be fixed, and I cannot promise I will have time. I'm sorry.
Yeah, I seem to recall blocks default to not allowing multiples and one must override the default false return value of instance_allow_multiple() method.
Sam, note for the future: If you use a sane date format like 20090821, then the patches would appear in date order, and it would be much easier to find the latest one.
Having reviewed about 30% of the patch, this looks very good. One bit of evidence for that is the terribly picky and pedantic nature of the comments below.
1. block_global_navigation_tree is surely not copyright Alan Trick
2. I though we had decided not to use @subpackage.
Applies to other files too.
3. if ($this->contentgenerated === true) return; breaks coding guidelines. Should be on three lines with braces. There are other instances of this problem.
4. $titlebits = Array(); breaks coding guidelines. array has a lower-case a. There are other instances of this problem.
5. $properties['text'] = join(' > ', $titlebits); $properties['shorttext'] = join(' > ', $titlebits); Using > here is an accessibility problem. Screen readers will read it in a stupid way. That is why the nav bar uses a triangle symbol with some extra class="accesshide" content.
6. blocks/global_navigation_tree/db/upgrade.php First line of the comment is wrong. It mentions the news_items block.
7. As I know you are already aware, you actually need to create default instances of the nav block.
8. moodle/blocks/moodleblock.class.php typo: " that the defauTL values here still get set"
9. Why is moodle/blocks/rss_client/editfeed.php in the patch?
10. block_settings_navigation_tree PHP doc comment. Same problems as above, and also the first line of the comment mentions the wrong class. This comment is too short. Image you were explaining this code to someone sitting next to you. Surely you would say a bit more about what this class is for.
11. function preferred_width() is deprecated and no longer used. I don't think you should include it in new blocks.
12. block_settings_navigation_tree_edit_form also has a copy-and-paste comment with the wrong block name.
13. Like the way course/format/.../lib.php avoids duplicated code.
14. moodle/course/switchrole.php almost certainly does not need to do preload_course_contexts($course->id); Surely you only need the course contex, so loading all the others is an unnecessary expense.
I have got as far as Index: moodle/lib/javascript-navigation.js in the patch. That is enough for today. More later, possibly.
Hi Tim,
Thank you for the great feedback and taking the time to look at the patch, I am in the process of making the changes noted above by Martin, will also endeavour to fix up what you have noted.
Will post more notes with my next patch.
15. e.nodeName!='BODY' does not work. In HTML tag names are upper case. In XHMTL they are lower case. You need to add an .toUpperCase() to make this work reliably.
16. sam Marshal and Petr were talking about adding classes like "ie ie8" to body, so we only have browser-sniffing code in one place. That is, you should not need to do code like YAHOO.util.Dom.addClass(e, 'ie_scroll_fix') - once that is implemented.
17. this is horrible:
tabtitle.innerHTML = tabtitle.innerHTML.replace(/([a-zA-Z0-9])/g, "$1<br />");
What does it do? Does it work with XHTML strict headers? Can't you use CSS display block or margin-bottom to achieve the same effect?
18. I don't think that class navbar should hard-code the use of the global $PAGE. It would be more flexible if the page or global_navigation to use was passed into the constructor.
19. Same comment for settings_navigation.
20. For some settings like roles assign/override/check and filter settings, we need the same links in several contexts. You seem to be doing this with duplicated code. Surely this should be refactored.
21. load_user_settings is horrible, as your comment says. If there is a particular user associated with this page, and if that is important, then create a new field $PAGE->userid with default null. Set that where appropriate, and user it here.
22. The code in navigation_xml:: convert_child is a horrible mess of if statements. Have a look at moodle_renderer_base::output_start_tag for a cleaner way of handling this sort of thing with an associative array of attributes, and having the output code omit the blank ones.
23. What is the $area field/constructor argument to navigation_cache? Please explain in a PHPdoc comment.
24. I don't think you should stick things directly into $SESSION->{$area}. Too easy to get a name collision that stops over other important stuff. I would use $SESSION->navcache or something,
25. Also, I think this code would look much more natural using arrays rather than stdClasses.
26. The use of __call in navigation_cache looks evil. Just rename check to is_present or something, and use that. It will be much easier to understand.
27. Does navigation_cache::clear really clear $SESSION->area? My knowledge of PHP references is not good enough to be sure.
28. White-space/indent problem with the PHPdoc comment on tree_block_contents
29. Nice to see unit tests.
Wow. Great work. Can't wait to see it committed.
Latest patch: global.navigation.20090828.patch
Thanks all for the feedback, changes have been made in consideration of what was said.
This patch is far more polished and now sets up the blocks on install and upgrade.
I will get Jordan to get it applied to a test site when he arrives in for the day.
Note: The upgrade code really needs to be checked, its pretty crazy stuff.
Cheers Sam
When visiting a page, the last item in the breadcrumbs correctly shows the current page, but it is also a link. That should never be the case, because a link always means: "Go to a different page". This is also a problem in the nav tree, where the item currently browsed is a link.
When switching JS off:
1. The navigation block's contents are too wide for the block, leading to some links being truncated. I see a horizontal scrollbar at the very bottom but I doubt this is a good alternative, especially for the admin block which is so tall.
2. The down-arrows on the left of each link category are probably not needed and take unnecessary space
3. The refresh and "move to block" icons are not needed
Another note Sam, I think you should consider the "Accordion navigation" paradigm with the nav tree: when you click a category, other categories get collapsed. I say this because, in practice, you will almost never need to have more than one category of links open at once.
See http://www.welie.com/patterns/showPattern.php?patternID=accordion for some examples.
Sorry to bug you, but here are a couple more tips to improve the usability:
1. When you mouse over the tabs on the left, there should be a 0.5 second delay before they popup. This will prevent unintentional hovers.
2. If you just hover to show the tabs, you should also simply hover away to hide them. Currently you have to click away from the navigation panel to hide it. This is especially annoying because of item 1. in this list
3. Related to some items I posted earlier, we should try for a navigation panel that doesn't require a scrollbar in most cases
4. When you mouse over a link category (non-linked), the cursor changes to a hand. However, clicking doesn't do anything. Either the cursor should remain as an arrow, or, if it changes to a hand, it should activate the expand/collapse action of the arrow
See http://www.useit.com/alertbox/mega-dropdown-menus.html for some good tips.
Latest patch global.navigation.20090828.01.patch
Getting very close now....
Hi Nicolas,
Just reading through your notes... thank you for having a look and think about it.
The accordion navigation I'm not too sure about, but I'll have a think/chat about it and see where we end up.
As for the delay when mousing over, I will certainly implement this however I want
MDL-19935 to be resolved. Implementation of this would be really simple using YUI animation, however it requires CSS to be loaded. As soon as this is resolved I will be able to implement animation quickly.
The closing when hovering away is also something that a bit of time went into, unfortunately I couldn't come up with a good quick solution that worked on all browsers. However if I get a chance I will have a look into it after this has all finally being commited.
Hi Sam,
I've just had a quick play around with the test account on http://test.moodle.org/nav/ and think the new navigation looks fabulous!
Here are a couple of small issues I came across:
- Changing between 'View my profile' and 'Edit profile' within a course results in 'Course Administration' and 'My profile settings' swapping positions in the settings block
- Following the messaging link changes the font size
Oh, that navigation indeed is an improvement . I am impressed
+1 for Nicolas' comments, too; adding 0.5 or 1 sec delay before hover (though I did not find it) and removing the scrollbars.
Also, a minor note related to Nicolas' earlier comment:
Home / ? My profile settings / ? View my profile
only "Home" and "View my profile" are links. The latter should not be, but "My profile settings" should.
Sam, just noticed that the search box in the settings docked block is not usable: when you click in the input field, the focus on the block is lost.
awesome navigation system !
tiny issues;
+ after adding a new question to the quiz, the navigation is gone.
+ the two tiny icons on the bottom of the navigation should be a little aprat ( so i/others could tell they are not one )
maybe even move them next to the "-/+" icon, inside the the header section of the block?
+ last branches on the nav tree should (probably) have different icon to tell they are the last element/node.
oh - please no Call-time pass-by-reference! This is strictly forbidden even in stable branch because it breaks completely in PHP 5.3 committing fix, please review
Also I noticed some obsolete & when assigning objects, those should be used only when dealing with arrays in PHP5
Hi all, just commited a series of minor tweaks as suggested above:
1. Fixed focus on search closing the visible tab.
2. Adding spacing to refresh/moveto icons.
3. Made text for expandable branches clickable if not a link.
4. Final element on navbar no longer a link.
Petr and Nicolas thank you both for the fix's that you have submitted... much appreciated.
Nadav I had a look at adding a question the reason that the navigation blocks are not shown is because all blocks have been disabled on the quiz-form pages.
I think that is Tim's area, when he shows up online again I will bring this to his attention and see what he thinks.
Sam, here is some more feedback on your last updates:
1. In Firefox (3.5, firebug off), I can now focus into the search box, but I cannot type into it. Nothing happens when I try to type... This works fine in Opera though
2. When I go into a quiz module, the breadcrumbs show the Course as the last element, not the quiz as expected. This doesn't occur with the other modules I have tested
3. Can we now get rid of the "Turn editing on" buttons, since they are in the "Settings" block?
This is looking better every day, fantastic work
I suggest people add subtasks for new buglets now. Adding one right away.


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i thought you meant if there were any lyrics in the description like some videos.not exactly i just remember it had an awesome music.i know this doesnt help but i dont have any other clues.i said i just wrote it cause someone might knew that amv.
i thought you meant if there were any lyrics in the description like some videos.not exactly i just remember it had an awesome music.i know this doesnt help but i dont have any other clues.i said i just wrote it cause someone might knew that amv.
i could do that myself.but this video i m looking for is deleted i just wanted to know the song.thanks for your effort though.
This one is decent, but I felt some of the voiceovers and subs ruined it a bit:
This one is also good for being fan-made:
Avatar and signature by me.
OK i put better one up than the first one and the second one was good one of my fav songs and i think we just have different tastes
I don't think we necessarily got different tastes, I think I simply expect more from an AMV. To me, a good AMV should make you 1) want to see the anime it's depicting if it only includes one, 2) thematically fit the music of choice and preferably tell a story around it, and 3) be edited in such a way that it comes out in an artistic fashion, ergo, no simple copy and paste work, anyone can do that. Put some editing effort into it, sync the music, add some other effects.
The result should be similar to something like this. It is unfair to compare every single AMV out there to Euphoria, but the goal should always be something like in Euphoria. How it's being reached depends on what the purpose of the AMV is. The problem with many AMVs is that they got no purpose beyond the "i liek anime X, i got wmm so i maek gud amv". Unfortunately that's not how it works. You have to of course like the show(s) you are including in your AMV, but it should not be on the basis of just doing it because you like the show. There must be a reason beyond that, or the AMV will always come out crappy if you ask me. It's like with all other forms of art. Without there being a deeper purpose like how punk was a political movement or how hip-hop tries to discuss racial injustice in USA the art itself will be pointless beyond personal enjoyment of the creator or a few select fans who do not understand what art truly is either.
Call me an elitist if you will, call out that Bleach has no purpose beyond Kubo trying to tell a story, but trying to tell a story is still better than "i liek anime x" Just look at RaXephon, which tried so hard to copy EVA the little sense of originality it has drowned out. RaXephon has great potential but in its attempt to be as obscure as EVA, it just has way too many plotholes because frankly, the storywriters didn't even include any answers for them. The end result is that RaXephon shoots itself in the foot. Instead of coming out as a great mecha anime on its own terms, you now constantly think of EVA when you watch it except it has nothing EVA has. There is a fine line between being inspired by and copying.
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I have yet to find an AMV that really matches the lyrics/feeling/emotion/meaning of the song to the actions happening in the scenes from the anime. Most/All just come off as a bunch of random scenes that the creator found "cool" and put it to a fade song that they liked at a specific time in the angsty life. Truely just an anime music video and nothing more, LeaT yours was pretty good though, good showcase of editing skill and stayed with the song for a good degree, but all the ones before were poo poo/
A pie in the sky?
thi is a one piece amv thread i made and i did post some WOW amv's there and i think u will agree most of them are better than the ones i put up here and the first video in my third post is i will say one of the best amv's i have seen in a long time and i will try to find some better bleach amv's to post here and once again i have made NONE of these.
Well, I agree that they are better and some of them even got the potential to be really good.
I think it improves a lot as it goes on. The start is very poorly synced though.
Again, huge room for improvements, but still not so bad for being fan-maded either. Some of the syncs are fabulously done.
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As for the power dissipation the TLC5940 datasheet say's it has a power dissipation of 2.5W- fungus you stated 1.5W is this just incoraporating a safety margin?
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They make mistakes. I make mistakes. You make mistakes. The players make mistakes.
SUSPENDED: Umpire banned for two games
Unlike the rest of us, though, the umpires never get praised. If they do their job, we are silent. If they mess up, we turn into a mob.
Don't get me wrong. If there are changes that will improve the system, then bring them on. In the wake of crew chief Fieldin Culbreth's two-game suspension Friday, I talked to three umpires – who were told by Major League Baseball to keep their mouths shut – and they believe it's clear something drastic needs to be done.
But it's not what you think. It's accountability.
The umpires, just like everybody else, have to be accountable for their mistakes.
MLB made that clear in revealing Culbreth's suspension and fines to his three crewmates: Brian O'Nora, Bill Welke and Adrian Johnson.
It was not leaked. It was not rumored. It was formally announced, just like player and manager suspensions and drug penalties.
So if you make a fundamental mistake and botch an elementary rule that even Little League coaches know, MLB is going to embarrass you.
They made sure to shame Culbreth and his crew. And think how bad it could have been for all parties if the Los Angeles Angels had not rallied in the game in question Thursday night to beat the Houston Astros.
If the Astros had won, the Angels' protest would have stood, according to an MLB executive who spoke to USA TODAY Sports on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak publicly. The game would have been replayed from the point that Astros manager Bo Porter made an illegal pitching substitution, and it would have humiliated MLB.
"Umpires are the custodians of the game here," MLB executive vice president Joe Torre said in a Friday interview on the MLB Network. "They're the people we all look to. Unfortunately they messed it up.
"It certainly isn't a reflection of Fieldin Culbreth. I'd go to war to him and still would. No excuse; they just kicked it."
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Porter realized the mismatch and stopped Wright in the middle of his warm-up pitches. He called on right-hander Hector Ambriz.
One problem. Wright never made a pitch, let alone faced a batter, violating Rule 3.05 (b):
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There was no injury. Scioscia went ballistic. Culbreth and his crew huddled at least three times before making the call. They permitted the substitution and the Angels played the game under protest, which was waived when they won.
Porter, who believed the rule was changed last winter, called Culbreth and apologized, and told reporters, "Me personally, I want to apologize to the whole crew. I stand corrected. Mike Scioscia was right. I feel bad I put (the umpires) in that position.''
It indeed has been an ugly 48 hours with umpire Angel Hernandez and his crew blowing the home-run call in Cleveland, not seeing, even on replay, that Oakland's Adam Rosales had hit a game-tying homer for the A's in the ninth inning. It was ruled a double, and the Indians won 4-3.
MLB, embarrassed by the call, made sure that Hernandez and his crew were embarrassed, too. They sent out an e-mail saying the call was in error, and even sent Randy Marsh, director of umpires, to Cleveland to speak to Hernandez and his crew.
Oh yeah, and to make matters worse, Marsh revealed the replay equipment was in perfect working order and the TVs were in high-definition.
"We screwed it up,'' Torre said. "Unfortunately we have to pay the consequences.''
Still, that was a judgment call, with bad judgment, and there were no fines.
The call in the Angels-Astros game was a blatantly blown call, not by sight, but simply by forgetting a simple rule.
"I talked to Fieldin a couple times today," Torre said, "and can't tell you how bad he feels."
Yet, these days, we are impatient. Society is intolerant. There are too many cameras. Too many Twitter accounts.
You make a mistake, you own it.
This shouldn't be a condemnation of the umpires. They're the guys you want over at your neighborhood barbecue, or sitting around and listening to stories at your favorite bar.
And yes, they are the best in the world at their craft.
Yet, the time has come for accountability.
It should be OK for umpires to openly talk after games, discuss calls and, whether right or wrong, let them have their say.
MLB encourages umpires to be miked during games, well, tell them it's OK to talk after games, too.
Maybe, MLB is right in its stance that, as evidenced by the Hernandez blunder, we are not quite ready for expanded replay. If technology isn't foolproof on home-run calls, how in the world are we going to properly call all of the caught and trapped balls in the outfield, fair or foul down the lines, or even calls at the bases?
The blown home-run call will set back expanded replay for months.
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Q: I know there are many treatments available for equine protozoal myeloencephalitis (EPM), but are there any that are safe for use in pregnant mares? There seems to be little information on diclazuril (Protazil) or toltrazuril sulfone (ponazuril, or Marquis) in my area. Would sulfadiazine/pyrimethamine (Rebalance) be a safer option over either of these? What would you recommend for use during pregnancy?
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A: Due to strict Food and Drug Administration (FDA) regulations, it is very difficult to get a drug approved for use in pregnant mares. Of the existing FDA-approved EPM products, none are labeled for this use. That being said, Protazil and Marquis are very safe and have been used in many pregnant mares without side effects. The other option, a sulfadiazine/pyrimethamine combination, should never be administered to pregnant mares. This is the only EPM treatment for which there is published evidence (Toribio RE, 1998) of its toxicity to foals. If these are the only medications available to you for EPM treatment, please use them with great caution and for as short a time period as possible. I have observed abnormalities involving the skin as well as the blood system in foals whose dams were administered this treatment.
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Posted on 02/14/2009 12:42:13 PM PST by NittanyLion
For decades, an anti-snitching mentality has hampered law enforcement in Coatesville, but the code of silence may not be fireproof.
The string of arsons plaguing the once-thriving steel town in Chester County - 44 fires set in the last 13 months - may be prompting some people to think twice about their reluctance to cooperate with authorities.
Some residents, who declined to identify themselves, said not even the $20,000 in reward money from the Coatesville Arson Task Force would motivate them to cooperate with police. One older woman said that she believed her grandson had information, but proudly added that he wouldn't tell the police.
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In other words, he's the arsonist? (I wonder which way the majority of this city votes?)
Coatesville is a pit unfortunately. Even before the arsons started. This whole situation wasn't really even making much news until a Coatesville council members house was burned down.
I live very close to the 'ville', and stay away as much as possible.
A large part of the Coatesville population is black. They always ote Democrat (surprise!)
You don't say!! I'm shocked, SHOCKED!
My son goes to school down there. He lives in West Chester.
Haha! Let's see...a victim mentality, steadfast refusal to improve the community, systematic protection of criminals...I wonder too.
The mentality of the residents reminds me of those communities who think Gang members/biker gangs/Mexican Mafias ect are cool and like to hang with the likes.
Another poster questioned the voting demographics of the area my guess is many dont vote.
This story has not been reported on via the media here on the West Coast much at all.
Perhaps the mentality of this community leaves little to report on.
If that is truly the case then why should anyone who cares spend time with these arson events.
Let these people be their own victims and refuse them any tax dollar relief funds when their homes go up in flames or perhaps the homes are rentals so not much pride in a dwelling you are working hard to become owner of.
Are you local to these arson crimes?
If so what is your take on the lack of responsiveness from the community?
> For decades, an anti-snitching mentality has hampered law enforcement in Coatesville, but the code of silence may not be fireproof.
People who promote "No Snitching" ought to be arrested and thrown in gaol. There is already a perfectly good crime on the books called "Thwarting the Cause of Justice", which the offense could fall under. And "Snitches Get Stitches and End Up in Ditches" would easily fall under "Uttering a Threat", which is also a crime.
Your post pretty much sums up my perspective on those who live in the ville.
I grew up and left weeks before legal age in the East Bay Area of San Fran. Richmond/East Oakland/ Pittsburg/Antioch different skin color in each area but the same low life scum thug mentality.
Back in the 50s/60s once thriving also in steel/paper mills.
Those who are selfless move out and away.
And my guess is many dont vote or get involved in the political process other than to advance their own agenda and prosperity.
Why don't the police arrest these three goons? Their intent is clear: to obstruct justice by dissuading witnesses under threat of violence.
There would surely be several laws that they are breaking by doing that.
Coatesville must be a multicultural wonderland, what with street cred gone metastatic AND the sport of the "man" being considered important.
"Excuse me Pewterschmidt, but I must inform you that if you intend to... ah, snitch about the number of strokes I took on the last hole, I shall be forced to discharge a firearm wherein the bullet shall pass into - and possibly through - your gluteus maximii."
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A "No Snitching" shirt is protected by the First Amendment. "Snitches Get Stitches and End Up in Ditches" probably would be too, althogh it might depend on the circumstances.
Hah A working thriving (family?) Farm and the locals want to exert their corrupt powers so they can have a place to play golf.
Who in the heck is going to in long term keep the grounds up the ex farmers?
> A "No Snitching" shirt is protected by the First Amendment. "Snitches Get Stitches and End Up in Ditches" probably would be too, althogh it might depend on the circumstances.
So if they wore a shirt that said "Talk to Cops and Sleep with the Fishes", your First Amendment would protect that naked threat? The First Amendment is not absolute, and uttering threats is not protected speech.
Maybe, maybe not. As I said I'm not sure about the second one. But "No Snitching" is without question protected.
And what is this about "your First Amendment"? Are you not a fan of it?
Coatesville has never been a very nice place. the only thing that I remember about it was that my high school used to meet them in the state baskeball championships.
Sounds like forced gentrification or vigilantism.
This is from news feed web site:
Coatesville is within easy access of Route 222 ' a 140km motorway that connects New York; Newark, New Jersey; Philadelphia and Baltimore, Maryland and known for years to be a pipeline for gangs involved in the drugs trade. Regardless of the arsonists' identity and motive, residents say they are terrified. Robin Scott, a local councilwoman, saw her home destroyed on Saturday night when a fire damaged 15 homes in total. She and her family got out safely after police alerted them. 'To see it all happen the way that it did was devastating and I wouldn't wish that on anyone,' she said. [21] COATESVILLE, Pennsylvania (CNN) —
> And what is this about your First Amendment? Are you not a fan of it?
Sorry for that — I'm a Kiwi, so we don't have a "First Amendment" per se. We do have freedom of speech protected by our bill of rights, but it isn't absolute and neither should it be, IMHO.
Darn shame if Granny's house burned down...
What a bunch of idiots!
You might be able to make an argument for banning shirts with messages like "No Snitching," but in this country we place a higher value on freedom of speech than the rest of the world. It protects some bad stuff, but IMO it's still a good idea since it also protects "unpopular" speech (such as a religious condemnation of homosexual behavior) that in Europe might be banned under hate crimes legislation.
I generally agree. However, one of the big areas to which the "no snitching" code applies is "illegal" guns — the ones the Second Amendment guarantees us all the right to keep and carry, and which people in dangerous neighborhoods urgently need in order to protect themselves. Eliminate every one of the d@mn unconstitutional gun control laws, and then a campaign to wipe out the "no snitching" code would start to make some headway.
I haven't been following this closely, though it's not very far away from my home. What I haven't seen is information about the mortgage status or owner vs renter occupancy status of these homes. Some may be being burned down with the consent of the "owner", who either lives there and has an underwater mortgage that's about to get foreclosed, or is a landlord who hasn't been receiving rent for a while and can't keep paying the mortgage and insurance without rental income. The chief reason I suspect this is that with so many houses getting burned over such a long period of time, the "no snitching" forces in the town certainly know who's doing it by now, and have elected not to eliminate the responsible party or parties. The no-snitchers generally prefer to handle this sort of problem themselves, and they do it a heck of a lot faster and cheaper than our absurd "justice" system. The arsonists are clearly not doing anything the no-snitchers disapprove of.
I live about 35 miles away, so I don't have any local knowledge. My general feeling is that this is the same sort of attitude that results in belief that education is the enemy. Sadly, it's this self-defeating, victim mentality that is the scourge of the black community.
I drove around Coatesville not too long ago, trying to find a place that could be considered "not too Third World" as a possibly (cheaper) place to live. I failed in finding any part of Coatesville that was not Third World-ish.
While I was looking up these fires, I came across the information that they are mostly rentals. They mentioned that because most of the residents did not have renters' insurance, while the buildings were insured. This reminds me of what used to happen in Atlantic City before gambling. They used to say that Atlantic City had three seasons, winter, summer tourist and fire. They used to call it Jewish lightning because most of the owners were Jewish.
We once lived in Chadds Ford. What a contrast there is between the east side of Chester county and the rest of the county.
The city of York, a few miles up the road, tried something similar and also lost. Now all the residents of York county will pay the settlement for years to come due to a$$hole commissioners
Their attorney, in front of a jury of their peers, could quite successfull argue that it is a message to end shoplifting!
Snitch, even in non-US English, has multiple meanings, and reasonable doubt is easy to instill in jurors who have the same mindset of those "youths".
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1 But I determined this with myself, that I would not come again to you in heaviness.
2 For if I make you sorry, who is he then that maketh me glad, but the same which is made sorry by me?
3 And I wrote this same unto you, lest, when I came, I should have sorrow from them of whom I ought to rejoice; having
4 For out of much affliction and anguish of heart I wrote unto you with many tears; not that ye should be grieved, but that ye might know the love which I have more abundantly unto you.
5 But if any have caused grief, he hath not grieved me, but in part: that I may not overcharge you all.
6 Sufficient to such a man is this punishment, which was inflicted of many.
7 So that contrariwise ye ought rather to
8 Wherefore I beseech you that ye would confirm your love toward him.
9 For to this end also did I
10 To whom ye forgive any thing, I forgive also: for if I forgave any thing, to whom I forgave it, for your sakes forgave I it in the
11 Lest
12 Furthermore, when I came to Troas to preach Christ's gospel, and a
13 I had no rest in my spirit, because I found not Titus my brother: but taking my leave of them, I went from thence into Macedonia.
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"Study after study will show that when gaming comes to town, there's an up-tick in crime, there's an up-tick in additional socioeconomic and social ills that an urban center like Springfield suffers. Not to mention traffic and a drain on resources like police and fire."
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2. Jimbo Fisher, Florida State. Can't get Saban? Then try for the next-closest thing: Fisher is very much a Saban clone, befitting his time under Saban at LSU, and has followed his blueprint for turning Florida State into the best team in college football. Like Saban, Fisher excels at both identifying recruiting talent and developing players in his system. Few coaches handle the 365-day grind of being a coach – the CEO aspects of the job – quite like Fisher.
3. Gus Malzahn, Auburn. Malzahn would be a coup for Texas. But like Fisher, Malzahn received a hefty contract extension after leading the Tigers to the BCS National Championship Game. (It should be said, however, that when it comes to buyouts and contracts, money is no object to Texas.) Here's what makes Malzahn so appealing: his offense. The idea of teaming the Longhorns' athletes and the type of recruits in Texas with Malzahn's up-tempo system is exciting, to put it lightly.
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Posted on 12/21/2012 3:39:08 PM PST by ObozoMustGo2012
Rep. Dennis Baxley is suggesting a novel approach for preventing a repeat of the kind of shooting massacre that occurred last Friday in Newtown, Conn.: arm principals and teachers with guns.
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And give the armed guards freedom from liability and being sued by bloodsucker lawyers.
It's close:
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No 50.58% (879 votes)
Yes 49.42% (859 votes)
Total Votes: 1,738
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No 50.4% (880 votes)
Yes 49.6% (866 votes)
Total Votes: 1,746
I bet if you could see where the votes came from it would look just like the elections.
Hell, yes. FReeped!!!
I speak for all liberals when I say that our children should be unprotected. /sarc/
Should schools and hospitals have mandatory fire extinguishers?
Given B. a campus is a campus is a campus [Identity]
Given C. Colleges have campus police.
Logical Conclusion: Ergo school campuses should have police.
oh I forgot that teachers do not learn LOGIC nor COMMON SENSE in universities and teachers` colleges-duhhhhh
"I dont think its really a good idea to introduce guns into the classrooms or into schools, Florida Education Association spokesman Mark Pudlow said to the Associated Press."
This is dumb because the crazy people have already introduced the guns. That's why this is necessary.
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Yes 53.47% (1,025 votes)
No 46.53% (892 votes)
Total Votes: 1,917
This is not a "novel" idea. Israel requires it's teachers to be armed, and even the terrorists do not attack schools with guns.
ABSOLUTELY NOT! Fire fighting should be left to the professionals. Only professional fire-fighters have the necessary training. If fire extinguishers are accessible to the public, untrained amateurs might take it upon themselves to attempt to use them on a fire.
Look at the statistics. Almost all public buildings, where fires have burned, had fire extinguishers installed. Coincidence? I think not.
Have to think about the idea. Most teachers and administrators are flaming liberals.
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Yes 53.73% (1,037 votes)
No 46.27% (893 votes)
Total Votes: 1,930
Yes 54.66% (1,086 votes)
No 45.34% (901 votes)
Total Votes: 1,987
No. Just close the public schools permanently. They're dangerous, they're expensive, and they're graduating a bunch of dummies.
More government employees? No, probably not. Private armed security guards.
Hell, I'd make armed security a selling point for private schools.
"We take your child's security seriously"
"Have to think about the idea. Most teachers and administrators are flaming liberals."
If you can't trust them with guns, why would you trust them with our kids?
"If you cant trust them with guns, why would you trust them with our kids?"
I don't.
But I voted yes anyway for tactical reasons. ;-)
Yes 57.26% (1,218 votes)
No 42.74% (909 votes)
Total Votes: 2,127
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Yes 58.01% (1,264 votes)
No 41.99% (915 votes)
Total Votes: 2,179
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Given a large percentage of public educators are of liberal political persuasion, the issue is which adults should be armed in American schools ? Preferably, an educator will volunteer for such training rather than be mandated against personal beliefs. No parent will believe their child is secure if an anti gun/code pink sympathetic principal is mandated to be armed.
Principals, teachers and office staff should all be trained to handle safely a handgun. They should have the option to be armed. It doesn't matter how many are actually carrying, only that a sicko knows that he does not know which ones are armed. He will be deterred. There will be no shootings, no shootouts.
Yes 60.34% (1,412 votes)
No 39.66% (928 votes)
Total Votes: 2,340
I am a teacher. I volunteer wholeheartedly to be armed at school!! I will protect your children with deadly force if need be with NO mercy shown to anyone deigning to harm children!!
I wonder, do schools have a legal responsibility to protect the children when the latter are in those schools? If so, and they fail in their responsibilities, can the school districts be sued for negligence? In other words, can a wrongful death suit be filed against the district, the teachers and their union?
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Yes 61.67% (1,538 votes)
No 38.33% (956 votes)
Total Votes: 2,494
62.25% (1,659 votes)
37.75% (1,006 votes)
Total Votes: 2,665
Thanks. Will use that one also.
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