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This Renaissance Gothic architectural masterpiece has a 222 ft. tall bell tower. Tours avalaible.
Join the group at this small intimate club featuring performers from St. Louis and the local area.
The Thomas Kinkade Gallery of Belleville is full of beautiful works by Thomas Kinkade.
Visitors are invited to walk through this home, considered to be the oldest Greek Revival-style home in Illinois.
The Labor & Industry Museum is the only public institution devoted to the history of the labor and industry of Belleville and southwestern Illinois. The centerpiece is Jumbo, a 19th-century steam engine along with coal mining, carpentry, and stove-making exhibits.
St. Clair County Historical Society Museum
This Victorian adaptation of a Greek Revival home was built in the early 1800s. In addition to period furniture and vintage clothing, artifacts, and quilts, the museum contains an extensive research library and gift shop.
The Schmidt Art Center and Gallery
Over 350 permanent works, including a beautifully landscaped and sculptured garden, are on display.
Belleville Philharmonic Society
The nation's second oldest continuously performing symphony orchestra (1867-2005) gives concerts throughout the year.
Groups regularly perform at the "Black Box" Main Stage theatre.
The historic theatre features first-run movies, organ concerts, puppet shows, and other special events. Tours are available by appointment.
Open from April to October, this theatre shows first-run movies, and is one of only 200 drive-inns left in the United States.
The Lemming Armada Theatre Co.
Performances throughout the year include music, drama, and comedy.
This talented troupe can be found at a variety of venues from dinner theater at Fischer's Restaurant to stage shows at Southwestern Illinois College.
National Shrine of Our Lady of the Snows
The Shrine has 200 beautifully landscaped acres of gardens and devotional areas, including the Outdoor Amphitheatre, Shrine Church, Lourdes Grotto, Stations of the Cross, Millennium Spire, the Visitors Center with a restaurant and gift shop, and the Shrine Hotel.
Painted in the 1930s on the upper interior wall of Chester's post office, this fascinating mural depicts pre-Civil War riverboat activity on the Mississippi River.
This monument honors Elzie Seager, Chester native and creator of beloved cartoon character Popeye the Sailor Man. The Popeye statue stands proudly next to the Chester Bridge.
Spinach Can Collectibles Museum
A museum inside the 1875 Opera House is full of Popeye merchandise and memorabilia.
Popeye stands tall in front of the new Welcome Center in the Elzie C. Segar Memorial Park. Find his friends on murals and statues around town, including Wimpy, Olive Oyl, Swee' Pea, Jeep, Bluto, Castor Oyl and Sea Hag.
Carolyn's Cottage has a large collection of bird houses, Native American art, home and garden decor, and much more.
(TEMPORARILY CLOSED beginning 10/08 except for special events.) Pierre Menard, an important political figure in 1818, built this home. It is furnished with many of the Menard family's personal possessions and other period pieces. The surrounding grounds and outbuildings include an herb garden, smokehouse, springhouse, and adjoining kitchen.
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The entire village of Maeystown is on the historic register with much of the history preserved in the museum.
Marissa Academy Museum and Coal Miners Monument
Memorabilia celebrating the city's growth from a coal mining town to the present makes this an interesting stop.
Marissa Academy Museum & Coal Miners Monument
Memorabilia celebrating the city's growth from a coal-mining town to the present makes this a fascinating touchstone of local history.
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That's My Boy (2012)
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While still in his teens, Donny (Adam Sandler) fathered a son, Todd (Andy Samberg), and raised him as a single parent up until Todd's 18th birthday. Now, after not seeing each other for years, Todd's world comes crashing down on the eve of his wedding when an uninvited Donny suddenly shows up. Trying desperately to reconnect with his son, Donny is now forced to deal with the repercussions of his bad parenting skills
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Adam Sandler, Andy Samberg, Leighton Meester and James Caan
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ck2998 wrote:Its nice to have some gold in your teapot.
All else being equal (size, capacity, shape etc), how much more does a Qing Shui Ni and Di Cao Qing teapot cost over a normal Zisha one?
If one is to brew Puerh in all 3 pots, will there be a noticeable difference?
Many prefer puple clay with Puerh. Real Zisha should get the most out of the Puerh. If you read my post in another thread, i recently tasted Puerh with water from a tetsubin and the tea in bankoyaki, a Japanese purple clay which is very high fired. Fabulous. The best Puerh I have ever tasted.


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Michael Kirk Sitterud has received his call to serve a mission for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. He will be serving in the Texas Dallas Mission. He will be speaking in the Orangeville First Ward on Oct. 28 at 9 a.m. He will enter the mission training center on Nov. 14.
Michael is the son of Kirk and Karen Sitterud of Orangeville. The grandson of Bud (deceased) and Lena Christensen of Price and Neldon and Lola (deceased) Sitterud of Orangeville.


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The RCP's national average showed a swing of roughly 4 points (Obama -3, Romney +1), which caused commentators like Andrew Sullivan to lament and the Obama campaign to rally supporters. Both the Huffington Post and Daily Beast published articles that charged Biden with the task of settling the score. Two facts worth mentioning about the VP debate: [1] The word "CROSSTALK" appears in the debate transcript 49 times, a marked increase from last week. [2] Joe Biden spoke for a little over a minute more than Paul Ryan. What about the generational gap? Scott Conroy of RCP points out that several of the past VP debates have featured candidates with an age gap (Biden is 69, Ryan is 42, and Sarah Palin was 44). To put this into cultural context, when Paul Ryan turned 16, number one songs on the radio featured the likes of Lionel Richtie, Prince, and Genesis, for Biden, it was the Everly Bros., the Champs, and Elvis. Prior to the debate (in part because of the perceived ineffectualness of Jim Lehrer in the first presidential debate) there was an unusual focus on the VP debate moderator, Martha Raddatz. In an interview after the debate, she said that she was surprised by the number of follow-up questions she was able to ask. Josh Barro notably criticized Raddatz' performance for failing to bring up important topics such as immigration, monetary policy, housing policy, unwinding the fiscal cliff, and for focusing too narrowly on foreign policy while neglecting China, Latin America and Europe. Photos of Paul Ryan lifting weights wearing a backwards baseball cap were posted online at the end of last week. The photos were taken last december for TIME magazine, before Ryan was the VP nominee, but will nonetheless be added to the twitterverse/blogosphere history of the 2012 presidential campaign, which also includes Big Bird following the first presidential debate, the laughter of Joe Biden following the veep debate. President Obama together with the Democratic National Committee brought in $181 million in new campaign funds in September, about 98 percent of which was made in donations of $250 or less. The announcement of September's fundraising record brings Obama's overall total to $925 million in the current election cycle, including money raised by his joint fundraising committees, the Obama Victory Fund and the Swing State Victory Fund, and the Democratic National Committee. The first Gallup tracking poll to be based around likely voters rather than registered voters, released Tuesday, gave Romney a 2-percentage-point lead, 49 percent to 47. Meanwhile, a Pew Research Center survey of likely voters conducted Oct. 4 to Oct. 7 gave Romney a four- percentage point lead over Obama. However, another Pew poll finds that Obama leads with Latinos 69 to 21 percent. Mitt Romney gave a foreign policy address at Virginia Military Institute (VMI) on Monday. Read our analysis questioning whether there is much difference between the candidates on foreign policy. Here are some highlights from Romney's speech: In short, it is a struggle between liberty and tyranny, justice and oppression, hope and despair. We have seen this struggle before. It would be familiar to George Marshall. In his time, in the ashes of world war, another critical part of the world was torn between democracy and despotism. This is what makes America exceptional: It is not just the character of our country—it is the record of our accomplishments. America has a proud history of strong, confident, principled global leadership—a history that has been written by patriots of both parties. I know the President hopes for a safer, freer, and a more prosperous Middle East allied with the United States. I share this hope. But hope is not a strategy. The size of our Navy is at levels not seen since 1916. I will restore our Navy to the size needed to fulfill our missions by building 15 ships per year, including three submarines. I will implement effective missile defenses to protect against threats. And on this, there will be no flexibility with Vladimir Putin. And I will call on our NATO allies to keep the greatest military alliance in history strong by honoring their commitment to each devote 2 percent of their GDP to security spending. The speech, predictably, provoked a responses from both sides of the political spectrum. 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Returned to his Heavenly father on Oct. 23, 2010. He was born on Nov. 28, 1963 to Charles William Wandell and Sheila Jean Workman Wandell. J.D. loved singing and playing guitar, being with family and anything outdoors. J.D. loved all children and would give you the shirt off of his back.
He is survived by his mother Sheila Nelson (Ferron, Utah), sister Karrie Sprague (Midvale, Utah), brother Gary (Tammy) Wandell (North Ogden, Utah), brother Terry Wandell (Palisade, Colo.), sister Cheri Evans (West Jordan, Utah), brother Joe (Gillian) Wandell (Cleveland, Utah), sister Christie (LaWayne) Snow (Ferron, Utah), many nieces, and nephews and great nieces and nephews. Also J.D. had many special friends.
He is preceded in death by his father Charles William Wandell, nephew Brent William Wandell, Aunt Betty Brown, and grandparents on both sides.
Funeral services will be held on Thursday Oct. 28, 2010 at 11 a.m. Viewing one hour prior. Murray Memorial Mortuary 5850 South 900 East, Murray, Utah. Interment HerrimanCity Cemetery. In lieu of flowers please donate to Desertview Federal Credit Union in J.D.'s name.


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America's First-Ever Marketing Strategy Is Dotty and Dumb
Is America's tourism market share shriveling because our nation is no longer awesome? No. It's shriveling because we're not marketing America's (incontestable, eternal) awesomeness enough. Enter Brand USA, propagators of America's first-ever global, "unified" (and dumb) marketing strategy.
Brand USA is a private-public tourism organization formed by Congress in 2010 to encourage (trick) spendy foreigners—particularly from "booming" nations such as Brazil and China—to come here and buy our stuff, visit our pretty canyons and lakes, stimulate our economy, and help create our jobs. Its board of directors is appointed by the U.S. Department of Commerce and its staff is led by a bunch of execu-dudes from various relevant industries, including marketing and hospitality. On Monday, Brand USAers traveled to London to reveal key ingredients of their campaign, which they'll implement in full in 2012.
As Ad Age reports, the strategy includes a brand-new tagline for America. It's this: "United States of Awesome Possibilities." Because "America is a suburban middle-aged dad who plays in a Counting Crows cover band, and foreign travelers are disinterested teens who listen to rap" was too long. It's true that America is full of possibilities, from extreme wealth to life imprisonment in a federal penitentiary. America: It's what you make of it! (Maybe that would have been a better slogan.)
In addition to the tagline is America's new logo, displayed above. There's nothing particularly "American" about it, but this is intentional, IBT reports: "The logo plays down any hint of patriotism and is meant to represent what Brand USA calls 'the United States of Awesome Possibilities.'" (If you belong to the Tea Party, commence fuming about the purple dots not being red.) Such detachment from all the flag-waving nationalism that goes on here is refreshing, but at the same time the logo seems most appropriate for a technology company headquartered in a reflective glass building that's located in an office park out by the airport.
But maybe we're not reading into the logo enough? According to a press release, the secret's in the dots. The dots form a "21st-century brand" by "joining together" and "symbolizing the boundless possibilities of the U.S." At the same time, they're also supposed to represent "the diversity of [America's] people"—which might explain why some of them are separated from the U-S-A, even while "joining together." Maybe the isolated dots are representative of America's marginalized communities—the atheists, the incarcerated, the Wallflower-Americans, the poorest people in Appalachia. They all look so lonely out there in the white space, all by themselves.
Aside from the tagline and the dots, Brand USA's campaign also includes a website called Discover America where foreigners can check out info and pictures about the places, amenities, and deals (coming soon) that America has to offer. Our favorite page is Travel Tips, which gives folks the basics on American customs, culture, and what to expect upon their arrival. Such as:
- ATM fees. "Some banking networks charge fees of $1-2 per transaction," the site says. Actually, some banks charge $3 or more, so this info is misleading. In Cleveland, which has the lowest fees in the country (and the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Museum!), the average fee is $2.06. Price-fixing is one of America's greatest freedoms.
- No free doctors. "Health care is superior in the US but it can be very expensive because there is no universal health care," the site warns. At least they're being upfront, though "IF YOU GET SICK HERE, WE WILL BANKRUPT YOU" would have been more direct.
- Encounters with OCD people. "Be aware that Americans are fanatics about showering and hygiene." The subtext: Some foreigners stink. Will suggesting that foreigners sometimes stink, and that they should try not stink (or stink less) during their time in America, make them more or less likely to visit? We wonder.
- Americans who are actually polite when using their cell phones. "Keep your voice down when talking on a mobile phone in public," the site advises. Also: "And only use your phone in appropriate places where others will not be disturbed by being a party to your conversation." Translation: "These are customs that no American ever follows, but we want you to try them out."
- Handshakes. However, they fail to mention the importance of hand sanitizer in appeasing fanatically sterile Americans. Details count.
- Friendly kisses on the cheek from strangers. Is this a new tradition? No stranger has ever kissed us on the cheek. Oh, except that one guy on the bus, but that wasn't really "friendly."
- A "well-maintained and extensive" transportation system. If you don't count the roads.
Also, you'll note that under the heading "U.S. Holidays," the website mentions how Virginia celebrates Lee-Jackson Day but fails to mention that Chicago celebrates Casimir Pulaski Day. Something very wrong about that.
Despite Brand USA's efforts, we're not very inspired to visit America any time soon—and we live here. But we tend to respond to marketing campaigns by doing the opposite of what they ask us to do/buy/consume. We're also of the mindset that if you have to make such a big fuss about out how awesome you are, you're probably desperate and lame. What do you think about the campaign, though? Will dots lead to jobs?


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Hockey season approacheth, flanked by big radio news
Jason Gregor
September 04 2009 09:43AM
Going to work on Friday is always a great feeling, unless you are one of those who believe a weekend starts Thursday and you're hung to the gills this morning, and today you feel even better because it's a long weekend. But more importantly for sports fans, when you return to work the NHL season will have unofficially begun.
I have no idea why I am up at 6 in the morning writing. Some moron told me that if I go to bed earlier I will feel much more refreshed. Waking up at 5:45 a.m. after hitting the fart sack at 11 last night sure doesn't seem like a reward, but I digress.
The Oilers' rookies will hit the ice Monday morning at 9:30. They will practice for an hour, flood the ice and then have a scrimmage from 10:45 to 11:15. They practice Monday and Tuesday and Rexall and then Wednesday at Millennium Place.
Their rookie tournament will include the Vancouver Canuck rookies and the U of A Golden Bears. The Canucks and Bears will play Wednesday Sept. 9 at Clare Drake. The Oiler rookies will battle the Canucks in Leduc on Sept. 10, and the annual Bears/Oiler rookie game will be played on Friday Sept. 11 at Clare Drake. (I'm surprised they booked that game the same night as the Esks/Stamps rematch.)
The most intriguing players to watch will be Toni Rajala, Jordan Eberle, Johan Motin and Alex Plante. I suspect Plante will play in Springfield this year, while Motin will for sure. Rajala is destined for Brandon in the WHL, and my gut tells me that Eberle will be in Regina, but Pat Quinn is really high on him so he'll get a long look in camp.
The Oilers haven't officially released their start date for camp, but I'm guessing medicals will happen on Sept. 11 and they will be on the ice next Saturday. As always training camp will be open to the public.
Things to ponder
-- The NHLPA is really trying to screw hockey fans right now. They canned Paul Kelly earlier this week, for allegedly reading private documents, which Kelly denied.
And then the real kick to the gut came when Glen Healy resigned due to Kelly's firing. By all accounts, Healy was doing a good job for the PA. Why a kick to the gut you ask? Because this means we can expect to see Healy on TV again soon. I really liked dealing with Healy, but as a colour guy he infuriates me. There are too many former goalies behind the mic nowadays and I'd be stunned if he wasn't back on TSN this fall.
-- Bill Daly told Toronto Radio AM 640 that the Leafs don't have veto power when it comes to icing a second team in southern Ontario. I never understood why they thought they would have, but I loved Daly's explanation as to why.
Daly stated that "the commissioner has unassailable rights to interpret the league constitution as he sees fit."
I always knew Gary thought he ran a dictatorship. But I do agree with him on this one. The Rangers had to bite the bullet when the Islanders came into the league, and again when the Rockies relocated to New Jersey. The Leafs can whine all they want, but hopefully nothing stops the NHL from putting another team in southern Ontario soon.
-- At first I thought Jim Balsillie would be good for the league, but as every day passes, he, along with his lawyer, looks more ridiculous. He isn't bigger than the league, and clearly thinks he doesn't need to play by the rules. Bettman has already let too many wingnut owners in the league; I hope he keep Balsillie out.
-- The biggest question heading into Oiler camp is who should be the first line LW. We could debate the Oilers don't have a true first line, but it's too early to be negative, so let's pretend they do. Who fits the best opposite Hemsky: Nilsson, Cogliano, Penner, O'Sullivan, Eberle or Schremp?
Ok I threw in Schremp to appease the Schrempaholics, but he has no shot in my mind. I wouldn't keep Eberle either. The other four all present valid arguments as to why they should get a shot.
Penner scored 23 goals in 2008 playing there. He's the only one with some size and if Hemsky gets in trouble he is the only one that can bail him out. He seemed to understand that at times last year, and if he realizes he needs to be the protector as much as he has to give an effort, then he's a good fit.
O'Sullivan looked out of sorts in E-town last year, but in 2008 he put up 22 goals playing with skilled guys in LA. He's the most responsible defensively out of the group, and if they opt to play Gagner with Hemsky, then O'Sullivan might be the best fit strictly because of his two-way game.
I'd love to see Cogliano given a shot here. He told me that he isn't opposed to playing the wing this year, which is the opposite of how he felt his rookie year. His speed could open up a lot of space for Hemsky, and I think Cogliano's skill is underrated. He missed a lot of breakaways his rookie year, but last year he showed way better finish around the net. He's averaged 18 goals the past two seasons, playing predominantly on the third line. My gut tells me he could be a diamond in the rough goal-wise for the Oilers.
Nilsson's skill is second only to Hemsky, the problem is his dedication and heart is similar to Penner's so far. Nilsson is the biggest question mark heading into camp. He said all the right things yesterday, and he changed his off-season routine to ensure he's in the best shape possible. But will he be able to bring that same off-season dedication to the rink most nights? I have a soft spot for highly gifted players, and while my gut senses Cogliano could have a break out year, I just don't feel the same about Nilsson. For his sake I hope I'm wrong.
More Oilers coverage at the TEAM 1260
Back in July I wrote,
Stewart Meyers and Ryan Zimmerman have a solid vision on where they want the station to go and they will be more aggressive in the future. It won't happen overnight, and change is always hard for a listener to take, but I like where they want the station to go. There will be more changes in the next year, and all of them should make the station better in the long run.
And even further back, in June, Brownlee said:
Stauffer was the critical voice, the hammer on the TEAM 1260 roster, before, as I put it in an item leading into this season, he "took the hush money" and joined the Oilers. When I add the two together, I wonder if sports talk radio listeners in this town wouldn't be best served if Stauffer wore two different hats with two different stations.
Well guess what? Starting next week the TEAM 1260 will bring you even more local Oiler coverage. "Oilers Lunch" will begin on Sept. 10, and will air weekdays from 1 to 3 p.m. Bob Stauffer will host the show. This is another big step towards increasing local coverage on the TEAM 1260. The official announcement will come Tuesday morning.
I also report with mixed feelings that my long-time producer Wil Fraser is leaving Just A Game. It was a great seven years, but after much prompting from me he is taking a bigger role with the station. He will co-host Edmonton Sports Night Live with Corey Graham starting Sept. 14.
Fraser is a class act. His dry sense of humour during commercial breaks made many shows much more entertaining for me. His ability to laugh at himself, while dishing out timely and sharp digs to me or others, made for some hilarious moments.
I'm forever indebted to Wil when back in 2003 he banned Adil from my show. It is still my favourite Fraser memory.
We were at 930 CJCA from 11 p.m to 1 a.m. and Adil used to phone three or four times a week. Wil always let him through, but after a few months we got many complaints from people saying they turned the station off when they heard his voice. So one night Wil explains to Adil that he would be limited to one call a week.
Adil goes off on Fraser calling him a racist, and yelling that he'll call the CRTC with a complaint. At 930 CJCA we were in the same studio, so Wil had to whisper when answering phones, except for this time.
Fraser's a pretty calm guy, but he didn't take kindly to being accused of racism, and he tore a strip of Adil: "You know what you %&*($&) dork, consider this a LIFETIME ban. You are done. Don't call the show again."
I was on the air and immediately went to break. I can still remember laughing hysterically as Fraser went off during the break. I've never seen him so fired up. It was awesome.
I have no doubt Wil and Corey will make the evenings must-listen radio. I wish him nothing but the best.
Adil- awesome Will, nicely done. Good luck with your new gig. Oilers lunch- this is great news, except that 1-3 is normally the only time I get any work done because I turn the radio off.
What a cheap ripoff of Leafs Lunch lol! Seriously though, sounds great!
I cannot stand that f%$#ing Adil. These radio hosts should be sainted for having the patience to let him talk for more than ten seconds. WORST GUY EVER.
Congrats to Will, he's great on the radio and will do a great job. And coodoos to the team for getting Stauffer for 1 to 3 pm. gregor you've done a great job and your 3-6 pm show is a definite for me everyday, and more hockey talk in the day is great. I would guess it'll be a toned down Stauffer since he is employed by the Oilers as well, but this move basically means my radio will be tuned to Team 1260 from 1 pm on (couldn't stand the fox guys).
September 04 2009, 10:14AM
You mention Rajala as a player to watch at rookie camp. I know he'll be at camp but my understanding was that he won't be on the ice due to his knee injury. Do you mean that he will be skating?
wow, big news for the TEAM!! I hope these changes will help turn the station's fortunes. Congrats to Fraser for taking the plunge, I'm sure he will find success. I will miss the banter between you two though.
Sidebar: Jason, do you know why the Flames rookies are not participating in the exhibition games this year?
September 04 2009, 10:20AM
haha banning Idil made me "LOL". can someone ban "JIM" who talks EXACTLY like the High Talker from Seinfeld? it irks the crap out of me every time i hear his voice and he starts rambling on points as if hes reading from a check list.
so sick to have Stauffer back. that dude is a f@#$@#$ shredder.
Having Stauffer back is fantastic news!! I hope he will be the same Stauffer that we all remember from when he was still on the TEAM, and not a watered down Oiler employee. Is Stauffer still doing color on Oilers radio broadcasts?
September 04 2009, 10:31AM
freeze wrote:
Sidebar: Jason, do you know why the Flames rookies are not participating in the exhibition games this year?
They don't have enough second generation Sutter's to fill out a rookie roster yet...
I have a call into the Flames, but I'm guessing they didn't want to travel again, or maybe they are doing something in Abbotsford with their new AHL team possibly.
@ Usual Suspect:
Rajala is at week 4 1/2 with his recovery and they don't want to push him so he won't be on the ice for that. You might see him at main camp possibly. Even if he was 100% healthy there is no chance he makes it this year. He has great skill, but needs to bulk up. He will flourish in Brandon I would suspect, especially if Kane, Glennie or both return to the Wheaties.
September 04 2009, 10:32AM
Kung Pow wrote:
Is Stauffer still doing color on Oilers radio broadcasts?
Yes he will be.
September 04 2009, 10:41AM
I'd give Cogs a shot on the top line with Horc and Hemsky to see how that goes and try Penner on the 2nd with O'Sullivan and Gagner.
Congrats to Fraser, we'll miss you on the drive home but you'll provide some humour and good insight on the evening show.
Looking forward to hearing Stauff back on the Team, now I'll something to do at work aside from reading Oilers Nation.
September 04 2009, 10:44AM
Will we get a little more Brownlee too? Having him on the Oilers lunch along with Stauffer woould be money.
By the way yesterday's top 5 ways to p1ss off Brownlee was priceless, you could almost feel his face going red over the radio.
Congrats Wil. I have to say that he is a solid addition to the late night show, and I will enjoy listening to Wil and CG. Great combo.
Great to hear about Stauffer coming back into the fold. Greater coverage for the Team from a familiar and very informed voice. Excellent.
It looks like the Team will have great coverage from 1pm to midnight, but I still say the early morning show is a question mark. I know that change isn't always easy, but I hope that some chemistry and continuity develop, and fast!
P.S. Where the heck is Bryn anyways? Anyone have a Bryn sighting to report?
Jason Gregor wrote:
Kung Pow wrote: Is Stauffer still doing color on Oilers radio broadcasts? Yes he will be.
How will this work for Oilers Road Games? will he do the show from the road? and is that possible?
Great move either way
Good moves for the Team 1260.
@ Brownlee Everything you allude to seems to come to fruition. In your next article, mind mentioning something about me finding a sack full of cash on my way home, with Meagan Fox eagerly waiting for my arrival. Thanks kindly.
September 04 2009, 10:57AM
Great news...
wtf were you doing up this early in the day though? You beat the Sportscentre morning loop...something musta been wrong.
Kudos to Will 'The Adil Slayer' Fraser on the new gig too!
Stoked about the new show and Fraser getting a bit more run in a new gig. The return of Stauffer to the Team will be pretty damn interesting; his departure left a big hole in the programming.
First off, some great changes to The Team. I always wondered when Frasier was going to break out and take a starring role. He and Corey should be great. Fantastic addition w/ The Oilers show. While I think that the local media is far too Oilers-centric, this is a possibly the best option if you are doing and all Oilers show. FREE ADIL!!! Unintentionally funny callers are always welcome in my book. Just rip them Howard Stern style, and let the comedy flow.
I gotta disagree with you a bit on The Balsille take. You are right when you say that he should check his ego and play by the rules set in place. But I really can't blame this guy from being frustrated with the system. The Bettman crew have made stupid move after stupid move. From keeping teams in markets that dont work, to approving The Boots Bataglias of the world over a hockey mad billionare, Bettman has proven himself the most inept commish of all time. I really think that Bettman knows that once he moves one of his expansion teams, he is essentially signing his pink slip. The writting will be on the wall, his southern experiement was, for the most part, a collosial failure. I also think it's personal between Bettman and Balsille. Bettman is willing to buy a lame duck franchise and eat millions just to block Balsille. Just Silly.
ONe more question question for ya Jason, to your knowledge, is there any truth to the rumour that Gretzky's annual fee as coach/owner is 8 million? If so, Gretz and The NHL should be ashamed.
September 04 2009, 11:17AM
Death Metal Nightmare wrote:
so sick to have Stauffer back. that dude is a f@#$@#$ shredder.
Can anyone explain to me what this means? Is it a reference to the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles? I can't tell if he's happy or pissed off.
@ ScubaSteve: He's happy.
Sick is the new "cool"
September 04 2009, 11:23AM
ScubaSteve wrote:
Death Metal Nightmare wrote: so sick to have Stauffer back. that dude is a f@#$@#$ shredder. Can anyone explain to me what this means? Is it a reference to the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles? I can't tell if he's happy or pissed off.
From Urban Dictionary:
Sick - Now used as the newest word to replace cool
Shredder - A person who is performs well in most things he does and is applauded by his peers as a ''cool'' or ''popular'' person
I'm going to say he's happy.
September 04 2009, 11:25AM
Also I'm guessing that never in his life has Stauffer been referred to as a "shredder"
Adil's not great, but I'll still take him over Daily Doug. People who make fun of Adil for trying to participate directly in our civic democracy should be kicked in the junk. Sure he has weird/weak takes most of the time, but he's not a whiny negative dick like Doug. If he didn't have the heavy accent, I don't think anyone would give two craps about his lame takes. Drunken rednecks call in to the Team all the time with the dumbest commentary imaginable, and don't get bashed anywhere near as much as Adil.
I think I'll call Stauffer's show and complain that he's providing too much content, and doesn't have enough co-hosts.
Fraser's a beauty, it's fun to listen to the transition for guys like him and Corey going from nervous, stuttering news-readers/producers to kickass show hosts. Go TEAM!
September 04 2009, 11:26AM
@ JeffG: @ Dan the Man:
Thanks guys, I guess I need to hang around more 12 year old skaters to pick up some lingo.
Wait.... that's not a good idea at all.......
Glad to have Stauffer back. I imagine it will be watered down, but I always enjoyed listening to Stauffer on the Team.
I wonder if this is a sign of things to come in terms of Oilers broadcast rights. Katz thinking of buying the Team and moving Oilers coverage there perhaps? Anyone know when the Oilers contract with CHED is up?
Glad to hear Wil Fraser is joining the night show as well. Corey was a little lost on his own at times and having two hosts will probably work a lot better. Good luck Wil!
September 04 2009, 11:31AM
*pops the hood and checks the oil on the bandwagon...seeing that it is almost at the cap he closes the hood and adoringly runs his fingers along the smooth lines of the machine while muttering to himself: Soon...soon...*
Does anyone else think that it is funny that our sports radio team made more changes in the off season than our hockey team?
*goes back to inspecting the bandwagon in preperation for the bumpy roads ahead*
@ MattL But they are different drunken rednecks each time and are easily forgotten because we all work with morons like them. Maybe it differs for others, but his accent has nothing to do with it- it's his weak, repetitive takes. (Same goes for Daily Doug.) Edmonton bad, Montreal good- then he tries running for council. Nothing like buttering up the electorit (sp?) by publicly telling them you like nothing about their city/ beloved hockey team day after day.
The fact that the Heatley trade fell through is a great thing, Cogliano is going to be monster. I see him as a Mike Camellari(sp?) type of player, with not quite as good of hands as Mike, but a guy that can get you 30 goals.
Jason, I am sure it has come up before, but how about Hemsky playing LW position from time to time? I mean he sets up on the LW boards on the pp, then have an offwing shot like Cogliano on the RW. The way I see it that may even up the line up a little bit. It wouldn't have to be egded in stone but I see it as a possiblity.
ScubaSteve wrote:
Death Metal Nightmare wrote: so sick to have Stauffer back. that dude is a f@#$@#$ shredder. Can anyone explain to me what this means? Is it a reference to the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles? I can't tell if he's happy or pissed off.
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles? how old is ScubaSteve?, he sounds like a little boy, anyway does anybody think there still might be a trade before the regular season starts?
@ viss.99 Just curious- what's your deal with ScubaSteve?
September 04 2009, 11:48AM
via twitter From @dantencer "Comrie spoke today and confirmed talks with Oilers."
Hello Jim Matheson?
September 04 2009, 11:52AM
This is great news!! I do hope though that the shows try to differentiate themselves from one another somehow. I don't want to hear 9 hours of talk about the Oilers powerplay.
Hey Jason, has there been any talk about making podcasts available on iTunes? It would be great to be able to download them directly to my iPhone.
@ ronaldo:
You really don't think it has ANYTHING to do with his accent? I agree though, he's definitely in my bottom 5 REGULAR callers, but I think he gets way more than his fair share of hatred/disrespect. I don't think he hates the city, he just loves his Habs. You have to like the city you live in to run for office. It's more committment than 95% in town here ever make. How many people bash him and then don't even VOTE?
(and then lecture people on supporting the troops to protect our democracy?)
Daily Doug, Adil and drunken redneck trash all equally suck the hind tit.
@ MattL: Agreed.
September 04 2009, 11:58AM
It'll be Stauffer Lite, but that's better than no Stauffer at all.
Funny Adil story... my dad was telling me how Adil has plagued Edmonton's air waves for DECADES, going back to the old Bill and Bill Show on CJCA. One day, Bill Jackson is going off about how inefficient civil servants are, how the civil service is bloated, and there should be cuts, etc... Well, Adil calls up, offended as all hell, because he's a civil servant, and he's worth every last dime of our tax money, and Bill Jackson should shut up because he's ignorant and anti-union, and blah blah blah.
Jackson: So... you're calling a radio station from a federal office at 1:30 in the afternoon to tell me how you're spending my money wisely? Is that it? Is that pretty much the basis of your argument?
Adil: *silence* *click* *bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz*
Typical of loud-mouthed IDJITS like Adil to panic and run when hit between the eyes with a 2x4 of reality. Another reason to love the '06 cup run. Didn't hear from him for MONTHS. Pussy.
Good job, Wil!
September 04 2009, 12:01PM
Travis Dakin wrote:
via twitter From @dantencer "Comrie spoke today and confirmed talks with Oilers." Hello Jim Matheson?
Comrie and the Oilers talking? No way.
ronaldo wrote:
@ Brownlee Everything you allude to seems to come to fruition. In your next article, mind mentioning something about me finding a sack full of cash on my way home, with Meagan Fox eagerly waiting for my arrival. Thanks kindly.
Funny how that happens. Lucky, I guess. And I'd be happy to start writing about a stack of cash for you and a come hither from Meagan Fox, but I've got to hear from the Brink's guy and Fox's people that it's a possibility before I do.
Is this the same adil?
I remember him saying that he was running for office or something.
I despise listening to him on the radio. Nothing to do with race, and everything to do with his self-righteousness and entitlement issues.
September 04 2009, 12:03PM
@ Robin Brownlee: I never doubted you. Were you there today? What did he say? What's all this business about his equipment being delivered to Rexall? holy man I am desperate for the season to get started.
September 04 2009, 12:05PM
I think it makes good sense for Daryl Katz (Gandolf the White) to purchase 1260 and when the Ched agreement expires make 1260 the Oilers/Eskimos radio network. New blood is good.....never was big on Rod Phillips or Bryan Hall anyways.
Quicksilver ballet wrote:
never was big on Rod Phillips or Bryan Hall anyways.
Hall I can understand, but Phillips?????? Are you daft?
September 04 2009, 12:08PM
One question I have about Stauffer working on both radio stations... I understand he is an employee of the Oilers, not of 630 CHED but what happens in situations where there is BIG Oilers news (i.e. the Heatley fiasco or any other big trades or signings) in the past year I believe Stauff came on air with Tencer to discuss and take calls on occasion. So if he continues to do that type of thing is it on CHED or The Team?
Maybe I'm over thinking this....
September 04 2009, 12:10PM
Dan the Man wrote:
One question I have about Stauffer working on both radio stations… I understand he is an employee of the Oilers, not of 630 CHED but what happens in situations where there is BIG Oilers news (i.e. the Heatley fiasco or any other big trades or signings) in the past year I believe Stauff came on air with Tencer to discuss and take calls on occasion. So if he continues to do that type of thing is it on CHED or The Team? Maybe I'm over thinking this….
Good question. I think I'll post an item in the next hour taking a swing at some of these kinds of questions.
@ MattL Oops, it should have read "maybe it differs for others, but his accent has nothing to do with it FOR ME..."
@ Brownlee Thanks. And keep digging.
@ Bob Stauffer:
There are 2 Willis', 2 Gregor's, and a Brownlee on the main page... Is THIS the kind of balance you were looking for when cruising the ON? On another note, I am looking forward to the new show... should be killer some discussions happening the day after an actual game...
September 04 2009, 12:20PM
I remember on one of Corey's first shows in the night slot, he said:
"We'll take one quick call before the break, let's go to Adil"
Great news on the programming changes at 1260.
September 04 2009, 12:21PM
Bob Cob wrote:
Jason, I am sure it has come up before, but how about Hemsky playing LW position from time to time? I mean he sets up on the LW boards on the pp
I second this, the only risk of having someone on their off wing is, when performing a basic pee wee team defensive zone breakout, it's sometimes difficult for the winger to pick up the D pass on the half boards. With a player like Hemsky this wouldn't be an issue. In the offensive zone you get his stick in the middle of the ice where he'll be in the preferred shooting position.
@ Quicksilver Ballet Batman (Galdolf?) owning 1260 is the last thing we need. 1260 is the place to call out the Oilers. Where linteners and hosts can speak our mind. 630's relationship with the Oil is why they can't do this.


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It was a titanic meeting that saw the Lions go in at half-time 32-11 up before an early second-half revival heightened the probability of a comeback.
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The Sharks came into the fixture on the back of encouraging performances, not least their most recent 25-20 win over the Stormers in Durban. However they had not foreseen such a wounded animal being in their path as the hosts recaptured the form that saw them lift the 2012 Currie Cup.
So impressive was their first-half showing that they had the try bonus-point locked up before the interval as Grant Hattingh, Derick Minnie, Lionel Mapoe and Deon van Rensburg all crossed to accompany 12 points from Elton Jantjies' boot.
The Sharks drew first blood through a Pat Lambie penalty just 20 seconds into the game. But then the Lions pounced via Hattingh, who collected a chip from Jantjies before grounding on three minutes. Three minutes after that another score came as Minnie managed to get over the line after TMO confirmation.
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Two tries in two minutes of the second-half from JP Pietersen and Odwa Ndungane brought the visitors right back into contention, with the Lions struggling to match the frenetic pace.
Jantjies, who scored 18 points in the gmae, slotted another penalty to ease the concern, leaving the Sharks 10 points behind with just 25 minutes left to play at Coca-Cola Park.
The Sharks were angered by referee Garrat Williamson in the 59th minute when he refused to award the visitors a penalty after Fred Michalak appeared to have been tackled off the ball.
The game then entered a lull, but with four minutes to play – the Sharks still trailing 38-28 – the TMO was called into action a third time as Louis Ludik dived over, but the try was not awarded and the Lions held on to win and also deny the Sharks a losing bonus-point.
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Tries: Hattingh, Minnie, Mapoe, Van Rensburg
Con: Jantjies 3
Pen: Jantjies 4
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Con: Lambie 2
Pen: Lambie 3
Lions: 15 Andries Coetzee, 14 Deon van Rensburg, 13 Lionel Mapoe, 12 Butch James, 11 Anthonie Volminck, 10 Elton Jantjies, 9 Tian Meyer, 8 Joshua Strauss (c), 7 Grant Hattingh, 6 Derick Minnie, 5 Franco van der Merwe, 4 Hendrik Roodt, 3 Patric Cilliers, 2 Callie Visagie, 1 CJ van der Linde.
Replacements: 16 Martin Bezuidenhout, 17 JC Janse van Rensburg, 18 Etienne Oosthuizen, 19 Cobus Grobbelaar, 20 Ross Cronje, 21 Waylon Murray, 22 Ruan Combrinck.
Sharks: 15 Patrick Lambie, 14 Odwa Ndungane, 13 JP Pietersen, 12 Meyer Bosman, 11 Lwazi Mvovo, 10 Frederic Michalak, 9 Charl McLeod, 8 Keegan Daniel (c), 7 Willem Alberts, 6 Marcell Coetzee, 5 Anton Bresler, 4 Steven Sykes, 3 Jannie du Plessis, 2 Bismarck du Plessis, 1 Tendai Mtawarira.
Replacements: 16 Craig Burden, 17 Wiehahn Herbst, 18 Jandre Marais, 19 Ryan Kankowski, 20 Jacques Botes, 21 Marius Joubert, 22 Louis Ludik.
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PAXTON, MASSACHUSETTS, March 30, 2012, (LifeSiteNews.com) Members of the Kennedy clan may be shoo-ins for every office in the state of Massachusetts, but they are not guaranteed access to young Catholic minds.
Anna Maria College in Paxton uninvited Victoria Reggie Kennedy, the widow of Sen. Ted Kennedy, after Bishop Robert J. McManus said her positions on abortion, homosexuality, and the Obama administrations mandate on insurance coverage for abortifacient contraception and sterilization were incompatible with Catholic teaching.
The college said in a press release that it obeyed the bishop with great regret, saying that as a small, Catholic college that relies heavily on the good will of its relationship with the Bishop and the larger Catholic community, its options are limited.
A spokesman for the college told the media Kennedy deserved high marks for her work on behalf of gun control.
The backlash from liberal Catholics against the decision was swift.
Steve Krueger, chairman of the Catholic Democrats, said, Increasingly, we see more and more bishops playing the role of enforcers of the faith rather than shepherds of souls, because they squandered the trust that they once had and the authority that came with it.
Sister Janet Eisner, president of Emmanuel College, which gave Vicki an honorary degree in 2010, said, I find it hard to believe in Massachusetts, in 2012, that this is happening.
Kennedy responded in a press release, saying of the bishop, by objecting to my appearance at Anna Maria College he has made a judgment about my worthiness as a Catholic. This is a sad day for me and an even sadder one for the Church I love.
Some claimed the bishop had been pressured by an undisclosed wealthy donor, an assertion the diocese forcefully rejected. Spokesman Ray Delisle told local media, it doesnt take a donor to convince the bishops to act on their principles. Patrick Whelan, president of Catholic Democrats, said the bishop told him, This is my decision and mine alone, and nobodys pressuring me to do this.
He said the bishop added, sometimes its lonely at the top.
We would want Bishop McManus to know that theres a multitude of Catholics who would support his decision, Adam Wilson, director of communications at the Cardinal Newman Society, a Catholic higher education watchdog organization, told LifeSiteNews.com. Just three years ago, more than 367,000 people signed The Cardinal Newman Societys Notre Dame Scandal petition in support of the bishops speakers policy, which the Worcester diocese just referenced. That scandal involved Notre Dames invitation for President Barack Obama to serve as commencement speaker in 2009 and to receive an honorary law degree.
Todays dust-up was not Kennedys first brush with a faithful Church hierarchy. In 2004, she wrote an op-ed for The Washington Post entitled, The Altar is Not a Battlefield, which called depriving pro-abortion politicians (such as her husband) Communion a harsh penalty that was flawed and intellectually dishonest. A month later, the Vatican codified this policy in Worthiness to Receive, authored by then-Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger.
The Church had forbidden Ted Kennedy from receiving Communion in 1983, following his divorce from his first wife, Joan. According to his biographer Adam Clymer, he received an annulment 10 or 11 years later. He married Victoria in 1992. She had interned for him in 1976.
Kennedy is still scheduled to address Boston Colleges law school commencement later this year.
Just imagine, a Bishop exercising his magisterial authority, in obedience to the Church, has the audacity to defy the Kennedy mystique where Catholic liberals have long resided in the diocesan woodwork of Massachusetts, the so-called "Cradle of Liberty".
The fact that these Catholics-in-name only (CINO) have held reign for such a long period had to be a shock when the Bishop acted in accordance with the teachings of the Church and not their political-social ideology.
Thank you Bishop for exercising your pastoral duty to guard your flock against the wolves in false clothing.
throughout history it has been a painful but necessary exercise for the Church to purge heretics. The Bishops if now serious are about fifty years late in taking definitive action. This has hurt the Church.
Liberation theoligists work(ed) to undermine the moral authority of Christianity,be it Roman Catholic or Protestant.
Both abortion and homosexualality depend on recruitment of naive,confused people for new members because they can't reproduce otherwise.
The Church hierarchy hasn't realized after over 50 years that a new religion was created due to Vatican II.
Satan is happy. Jesus is sad.
Now, isn't Nancy Pelosi next?
The process is called evolution.
The evolution of Christianity is a slow but continuous process
This is more evidence of a turning and from comments in this article, the liberals are totally dumbfounded.
Lent is a good time for Kennedy to think about the worthiness of her soul and her apostasy and heresy, IMO. Is she a follower of Eve who said "no," or is she a follower of Mary, who said "yes" to God?
Who does she want to follow, Eve or Mary? She has to decide that herself. Maybe she can use the time that has just been freed up to reflect on that question.
After you cheat on your wife, put her through Chappaquiddick, and after she has given you multiple children, and bore the pain of a miscarriage 1 month after Chappaquiddick, the church decides to give you an annulment 10-11 years after divorce, so that you can take communion? Based on what? That the marriage was never consummated? That she wasn't as Catholic and pious as you? Or does it have something to do with how much got put into the offering plate? Makes me sick to my stomach.
Joan deserved an annulment since the swimmer admitted that he never intended to honor his marriage vows.
Having said that, Victoria Reggie Raclin is still married to her first husband, in the eyes of the Church, since civil divorce is not recognized. One of these reporters should stick a microphone in her face and ask her why she married Teddy in a civil ceremony in his house in McLean, Va. if her faith is so important to her. She and the swimmer were unrepentant public adulterers. Bishop McManus is correct and should be applauded in his decision.
That is what bishops are supposed to do, dearie. And it wasn't a hard judgment to make, either.
He married Victoria in 1992.
In a civil ceremony in his house in McLean, VA. not in the Church. Reggie Raclin and the swimmer were simply shacking up.
"Makes me sick to my stomach."
Here is a Tums for you.
Vatican Declares 1996 Kennedy Annulment Invalid; Justice Denied For Years
Didn't know about it myself. Of course in 1991 they had pedophile enabling Archbishop Bernard Francis Law in authority and running interference. Got to do more research.
s/h/b 1996
"Sister Janet Eisner, president of Emmanuel College, which gave Vicki an honorary degree in 2010, said, I find it hard to believe in Massachusetts, in 2012, that this is happening.
Would seem the Sister is in need of a refresher course.
Thanks for the Tums. The article is about Joe Kennedy's annulment, right?
That article is about a different Kennedy than Ted.
Amen, this is the LEAST I would expect from a Catholic bishop. Maybe the hierarchy is finally waking up to the fact that Vatican II was a disaster, pushed by heretics, and that they just might lose everything. Bishops have to answer for each and every soul under their care. Will God ask, wy did you let a public sinner to receive the Sacraments?, OR did you speak out against abortion, a sin that cries out to heaven for vengence?
It's hard enough looking after my own soul.
Thanks, you are right....I screwed up. Comments re Law still stand.
Thanks, you are right....I screwed up. Sorry. Comments re Law still stand.
Whenever a coach determines the team is not performing according to the plan, he will install a program best called, "going back to the basics."
The church, all churches are not called upon to be popular with the worldly, but rather to be a plumb line with which to provide a true measurement - like a surveyor must find a monument in order to start his work.
I wish this bishop would come to Newark NJ and get rid of the gay marriage course at our diocesan university.
She married a Kennedy. Therefore(according to the lame-stream media), the world should kneel in her presence.
She has serviced a reprobate who deliberately drowned a young woman.
no legitimate World History or American History courses being taught at these universities which are phony. Kids graduate and know nothing about what's happened in the past that creates a nation's slide into oblivion.
That's the way the socialistt/communist instructors indoctrinate the minds full of mush with garbage instead of intelligence.
Would seem the sister is in need of a habit as well as a vocation.
Reggie, pay attention. Y o u a r e n o t a R o m a n C a t h o l i c.
No legitimate priest would give absolution to you.
Ib, was your post 28 meant for me?
Yes, I believe so, but the content dealt entirely with Reggie and her cafeteria Catholic personna.
On top of that, the graduates learn little enough about math, science, English, etc.
For Seton Hall University to offer a course on "gay marriage" is absolutely ridiculous; the Archbishop spoke against it, but in the end he controls the college. When religious orders operate schools within a diocese the bishop has to give his approval; when the college in question is the diocesan college (as Seton Hall is), his control is absolute.
Ok, Ib, I get it—Reggie is one of Teddy's wife's names—I didn't realize that was whom to which you were referring.
Lent is a good time for Kennedy to think about the worthiness of her soul and her apostasy and heresy, IMO
Exactly! The rules are always different for them,
they expect.
So impressed and gratified they did this.
God bless Tom Monaghan (founder of Domino's Pizza) who's building a college and an entire town for conservative, normal, decent folks and families at Ave Maria.
Note to above.
To eliminate any confusion, the Ave Maria University I reference above is in FL, south of Naples.
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Josh Susser does the intro. He thought it would be interesting to get authors of popular frameworks together.
Tim: Been a contributor to shoes since december. Kind of scary to put code out there, and speak publicly. One thing about Shoes is that people are very receptive. It is fun, a framework/toolkit for creating Gui apps. Written mostly in C, it embeds ruby. Lowers the barrier to programming by making it super easy to make fun apps. Shapes, animation, music. It is NOT an MVC framework, it is more like writing a script. You often just need one file, it is straightforward. It is written to be compiled and shared with your friends. Unlike a web app, your Ruby code actually runs on other peoples machines. That makes it more unpredictable due to library, OS and environment differences, which is a challenge to Shoes. Since ruby usually runs on Unix, there are challenges to running it on windows. It has a main loop, so since ruby uses green threads, if the OS does disk access, it can make your app pause, even if you are using ruby threads in your app.
Greg: RAD – Ruby Arduino Development – an open source hardware platform for hardware hacking. Can easily program physical devices, sensors, actuators, things that jump and blink and do things. It is based off the 'processing' project, which is in C++, a predecessor of Shoes. He wanted to to it in ruby, though, so it would be eash for new people without a lot of hardware experience to get started. Ruby is great for that. Unlike other frameworks, you have things above and below you in the stack. There are contributors who are old-school hardware guys who submit complex C code against a shoebox full of obscure hardware, so that is a difference as well. Hard to test, if things blink and beep in the right order, then the tests are passing. He wants to get experience about how to manage complexity, especially when other people add things to it.
Jay Phillips: Adhearsion. He was a web developer, but wanted to get in to telephony development, because it was a foriegn technology he knew he could do if he tried. One of the first things he did was hook into Arduino to control his locks remotely via telephony. He encourages everyone to think out of the box and play with new technologies. Adhearsion is a framework for backend telephony development – you call into a phone network, and it does stuff like recording, playing hold music, etc. Adhearsion rests above Asterisk, and a couple of other things. Asterisk has a couple of different options for servicing phone calls – peer-to-peer, UDP protocol. Conferencing as well, but that is more complicated. Sometimes need special hardware. One of the most interesting things about ruby is the ability to play with other people's code. Adhearsion has a plugin system. The new version is really exciting, and it exemplifies the dynamism of Ruby. It lets you pick up anonymous modules based on file and directory conventions, and extend them with features from a bunch of other different objects. It is a really impressive technology, and the conventions and features of ruby support this. At a philosophical level, Adhearsion is trying to bring open source and modern software principles to the telephony industry, which is very old-skool and backward. It is a big opportunity and a new frontier for Ruby.
Blake: Sinatra. He created Sinatra because he had an itch, and he needed speed. He is a big fan of MVC, but it is not for everything. It was far too much for what he needed, and so Sinatra was born. Ruby is great for Sinatra because of closures. They are cool, and he wanted to make a framework which leveraged the power of closures in ruby. It is a microframework in the truest sense of the word, 800 lines right now. It is getting smaller too, by pulling logic out of Sinatra and moving it into Rack. It is a good rack citizen, and Sinatra doesn't hide the power of Rack, it exposes it to you.
Yehuda: Merb. He didn't create it, but was the lead for a year or so. The hardest thing about maintaining a framework is that they start with a strong sense of identity. Then, people try to do different things, and want the framework to do it. It is hard to make the decision of whether a given feature should be added to the framework/api, or whether it is application-specific code that only one guy ever needed and it will have to be supported forever for just a few people. One of the best things about ruby is that all code is executed code. This means you can define methods anywhere in your app, and have them do things. That is really powerful. Ruby is not a slow language, but nothing is free. For example, in C, an if statement is cheap. In ruby, however, 'cheap' things add up. As you add support for a lot of cases, you end up with a lot of code just testing for application edge cases. Unless you do a lot of mind-warping complex things to deal with these situations, you will end up with a lot of slow code.
Josh: Rack. Rails contributor, working on Rack integration to Rails. Best thing about rack is that even though it is a port of Python WSGI, it doesn't split up methods and have nasty wrappers. In ruby, you can really distill the API into just a call and environment hash. This is really nice and simple, and shows the power of Ruby. Going forward in Rails 3.0, with the Merb/Rails merge, he is looking forward to figuring out how to share code with other frameworks. Prior to the merge, he was interested in how to share code with merb, but even though that is moot, it still strengthens the Ruby ecosystem of web frameworks if things work together.
Q: Josh Susser: What is the language feature about ruby that is most helpful in making a framework?
Blake: Metaclasses and Closures. Allows cool tricks like has_many, etc.
Yehuda: Languages without closures are not really an option for frameworks. Most languages in the world don't have closures and that is painful.
A: Greg: We need to craft classes with just the methods we want, such as the main loop in Arduino. Being able to grab code and rip the guts out at the last minute would not be possible without method defintion and evaling.
A: Josh: Open classes. Really nice, such as the goodies ActiveSupport adds to Ruby.
A: Yehuda: Community. Not that the community is awesome, but the Rack thing. A grass-roots effort about sharing code. For example, WSJI is not supported fully by Django. In Ruby with Rack, everyone agreeing to standardize is awesome and powerful. That is a feature of the community in that we love to cooperate and share code.
A: Jay: Ruby has one of the best communities of any programming language. Rubygems is a great example. Agility, such as switching to Github. It is like a school of fish darting around, making "tron-like" right turns and chasing new and exciting stuff. Rspec is another example – people come to ruby without any Test-driven development experience, and new people can pick it up. Cucumber and other tools build on Rspec.
A: Tim: Ruby brings in amazing creative people, like Why the lucky stiff.
A: Yehuda: When rspec came out, it could hook into rails in a way that would not be possible with Java. You can make many little mutations quickly. With the little mutations, the good ones win quickly. In other languages, it is harder.
Q: Josh Susser: You've talked about community, and even non-rubyists recognize this. All these frameworks are open source. Is there anything about ruby that encourages open source contributaion?
A: Jay: It is a scripting language. Everything is open and revealed for the most part. This supports the Open source mindset.
A: Yehuda: Rails and Ruby is MIT licensed. This is corporate friendly, so big corporations get into it. Even if 20% of the big corporations contribute back, this is still more than GPL licensed communities. It is easy to just monkey patch and just make it work, without having a lot of protocols for contributing back
Q: Does the extensibility of the language itself have an effect, e.g. C extsiosn to MRI?
A: Jay: Extensibility of Jruby is great – you can write java code. That's more powerful than C extensions
A: Greg: Jruby and rubinius are bringing new world of interoperability
A: Yehuda: When you make a new ruby implementation, it is expected that there is good integration with the lost language.
Q: You all write frameworks, and Rails has abstractions like ActiveSupport core extensions. Other frameworks have similar libraries. Do you have a library of core extensions for the framework, and do you have plans to share it.
A: Jay: Adhearsion will use ActiveSupport. It introduces a moving part, though, which has caused at least one bug. For example, Adhearsion can load a rails app, but this will pull in a random version of activesupport.
A: Josh: In the future, it will be easier to pick and choose parts of Activesupport
A: Yehuda: Merb created Xlib to solve this problem, which is a smaller more extensible activesupport. A precondition. Also, the gem version dependency problem SHOULD be licked in Rubygems 1.4.
A: Blake: Sinatra should be able to interoperate, and where it doesn't, patches are accepted
A: Yehuda: Problem is that we operate in a global space. We need to make it easier to use ActiveSupport without pain.
A: Tim: Shoes it is a low-level C problem, hasn't needed active support.
Q: Frameworks need to be modular and reusable. Yehuda talks about stable APIs. On Rspec, there's no separation between DSL level and Library. how do you address that?
A: Blake: GOod question. At one point in Sinatra, we talked about what we wanted in 1.0, but the important thing is what we DIDN'T want in 1.0. If we trim things out prior to 1.0, you can always add them back. Hard to pick though.
A: Greg: in Rad, there is a balancing act between doing it in native ruby, and the C level. Hard decision. Would like to have a URL where the Arduino libraries live, and keep the logic out of the framework. Sometimes it is hard, because that is ugly and you want to simplify it. You can write inline assembler in a Rad class, which has different problems than other plugin architectures.
A: Yehuda: Biggest thing for frameworks is to write things like you would expect your plugin authors to do. Don't write something massive with a plugin API. Instead, write something small, and use your own plugin API to do more complex things. It is hard to do, and tempting to make a "secret" thing that only you use. But then you are forced to give people access to your magic api.
A: Greg: I added a secret API for my talk (gets laughs)
A: Jay: Agreed. Also you need to allow people to write tests for their own extensions. If the framework changes (new rails version, for example), you want your clients to be able to catch it. Should be simple for app developers to write tests.
A: Blake: With the github fork queue, it is easy to accept patches, but then you get a flood. It is a balance between accepting stuff and protecting the framework.
Q: Have you ever wanted to overload a method?
A: Yehuda: You can use *args and option hashes and optional arguments.
A: Greg: In C you can do that, and I hate it.
A: Blake: Sometimes I want to, such as recursive operations in erlang.
A: Yehuda: If people could do overloading, they wouldn't use optional arguments. It is easy to have one method that calls out to multiple methods. People would create scary ruby code because of idioms they bring from other languages.
A: Jay: You can unbind methods in Ruby too. This would be complex.
A: Yehuda: Ruby is guessable. If you add complexity, it is harder to find the right thing to do
Q: How do you feel about the prolifiration of language implementations
A: Totally badass
A: Greg: Rad could never work because of Ruby2C.
A: Tim: Exciting.
A: Yehuda: People got burned by Javascript. Ruby has done it right by holding all implementations to a high standard of compatibility. Jruby spends a lot of time to work with Rails and Merb, and other stuff. We have to hold them to a high standard of compatibility.
A: Yehuda: Ok to import Java's concurrent hash. Not OK to hack around MRI implementations, or layers like Jquery or prototype for Ruby.
Q: Community – everyone moving to github. Why? Is it because Chris wrote github, or what?
A: Greg: Got a ping to stick Rad on Github. A month later, I got a pull request that did tons of work for me that got me started. The power of that completely sold me on Github.
A: Blake: Heard from Chris, saying it was cool when I saw him pushing it to my SVN repo. It was big to see Linus talk about it too.
A: Jay: Less excited by git than github. The social network is the important thing. When you put code on github, you are not creating an open source project, you are just putting code out there and letting the community know about it and how to find it. The ability to watch people, fork, submit patches, etc is good. There's a tangible benefit to Adhearsion after the switch to Github, people see other people contributing and there was a big increase in patches.
A: Yehuda: It is a mistake to say it is better than Subversion, early merb started on subversion. but the big thing about distributed version control is that people can have copies of your repo and constantly pull changes. For example, I just merged months of changes back to Rails, and it wasn't too bad; we wrote a script to help. It would not have been possible with Subversion, I would have gone home and cried. Github is awesome, but it isn't git – it could have been Mercurial.
Q: What can we do to move community to Ruby 1.9?
A: Jay: Get rails on 1.9
A: Yehuda: Why do you want the community on Rails 1.9?
Q: Performance and speed improvements
A: Yehuda: You could use Jruby or Ruby 1.9. In some random cases, like ERB templates, 1.9 can be many times slower. I benchmark everything, and there is really wierd 1.9 behavior, outlying blips of slowness. We need to encourage people to look at all implementations and find one that works. It's not obvious that there will be a big benefit of 1.9
A: Jay: Gem compatibility is a big thing. There's a website "is it 1.9 compatible". We've got ourselves into a rut with a lot of gem code out there written on 1.6. People should write for compatibility. If I wrote for 1.9 compatibility, I'd break Jruby support.
A: Yehuda: Jruby 1.9 should work for most things now.
A: Blake: This is a great job for a duplex proxy.
A: Yehuda: We should try to make sure our code works on as many interpreters as possible, but it is not the most importatnt thing.