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Editor for this issue: Terence Langendoen <terrylinguistlist.org>
Natural Language Toolkit, ver. 1.2, downloadable from http://nltk.sourceforge.net/. Kevin Russell, University of Manitoba INTRODUCTION The Natural Language Toolkit (NLTK) is a set of programs and programming resources for dealing with natural language, intended mainly for teachers and students in computational linguistics courses. It includes example programs for many of the common tasks in computation and corpus linguistics (such as tokenizing, tagging, parsing, and word-sense disambiguation), programming libraries that students can use in writing their own programs for these tasks, and graphical displays useful for classroom presentations. NLTK is free and licensed under the GNU General Public License, so you can read the source code (written in Python) and modify it as much as you want. The current version of the toolkit (1.2) can be downloaded from the project's website at http://nltk.sourceforge.net/. SYNOPSIS The following are some of the things included in NLTK: * data structure definitions that allow the computer to represent linguistically interesting entities: tokens, trees, grammar rules, frequency distributions (e.g., for keeping count of how often each word occurs in a corpus). * pre-programmed classes and functions for many language-processing tasks, including: tokenizers, basic n-gram taggers, recursive descent parsers, chart parsers, and various probabilistic parsers. * a number of graphical displays. Some can draw static images such as syntactic trees and basic histograms for frequency distributions. Others can dynamically show how, say, a finite-state automaton or a chart parser changes its state through time. * sample data (mostly English) to practise with, including a portion of the Penn Treebank, the complete million-word Brown corpus with part-of-speech tags and a subset of it tagged with WordNet senses, verb subcategorizations from Levin (1993), and word-lists for a number of European languages. * a number of extras contributed by users, including an interface to the Festival speech synthesis system, an re-implementations of the Brill tagger and the Porter stemmer, and a parser for Tree Adjoining Grammars. * demonstration programs illustrating how to use most of the above. For documentation, NLTK comes with an automatically generated catalog of every last class, method, and function -- fairly standard for open-source software projects these days. There are also a number of tutorials on using NLTK for various tasks: modelling probabilistic systems, tokenizing, tagging, parsing, chunk parsing, chart parsing, probabilistic parsing, and text classification. The tutorials are still incomplete, with many sections marked "to be written". EVALUATION NLTK will be extremely useful to teachers and students in computational linguistics courses. The website has links to the pages of several courses that have already integrated NLTK into the lectures and assignments. The toolkit may also be useful to researchers without much programming experience, but many of the features that make it so good for learning get in the way of its usefulness for real work. For teachers of computational linguistics, becoming familiar with NLTK is unquestionably worth the effort. If you use a laptop and a data projector while teaching, NLTK's graphics abilities can make for some very effective classroom presentations. It is easy to set up step-by-step demonstrations of complex processes that textbooks seldom devote enough paper to diagramming fully, such as the actions of a chart parser in parsing a sentence. For those with reasonably fast internet access, the sample data alone is worth the download time. The case for requiring students to learn NLTK and use it in assignments is not quite as clear-cut, but still strong. Compared with some available stand-alone programs for doing the same jobs, the various pieces of NLTK are usually slower and offer fewer options. Their real strength lies in their simplicity (which allows students to understand how they're written) and in how easy it is to make minor modifications to them or combine them together to handle multi-step language processing tasks. NLTK ties together a number of different areas using the same programming language and the same overall design. A student who learns part of the toolkit in order to complete an assignment on part-of-speech tagging does not have to learn completely different systems in order to complete assignments on parsing or word-sense disambiguation. Using Python, one of the easiest programming languages to learn, was perhaps the best choice the designers made in terms of usefulness for teaching. While not entirely free of rough edges and eccentricities, Python has fewer than most other languages. Students with no previous programming experience will be able to spend more of their time thinking about the logical steps involved in getting the computer to process language data, and less time mastering and using the arcana involved in getting the computer to do anything at all. Python's interactivity is especially useful for learners: instead of writing a complete program then seeing if the whole thing runs correctly, users can issue one command at a time and poke around in the intermediate results to make sure they're what they expected before moving on. There are some trade-offs. Programs written in Python often run more slowly than those in other languages. The speed difference is all but unnoticeable for the kinds of programs and data-sets involved in a typical course assignment, but it could become inconvenient for larger tasks. The very ease of Python is also a double-edged sword. Because Python already makes it fairly simple to do many of the common language-processing tasks, the additional simplification that NLTK can offer (its "value added") is less than it would be for most other programming languages. NLTK has quite extensively appled the object-oriented software philosophy to the natural language domain -- perhaps too extensively. As an example, let's compare how we would approach the same simple task in ordinary Python and in NLTK's object-oriented system. (Both versions below are more long-winded than strictly necessary.) Suppose you wanted to print out every noun that occurs in a tagged text with a format like: "The/at dog/nn bit/vbd me/ppo ./." Assuming that the text is a character string stored in a variable named "text", in ordinary Python, you could simply use the following code: tokenlist = text.split() for token in tokenlist: (base, tag) = token.split('/') if tag == 'nn': print base This splits the text apart into a list of smaller strings, like ["the/at", "dog/nn", "bit/vbd", "me/ppo", "./."]. Then it loops through this list, splitting each string on the slash character to make a base/tag pair. If the tag is 'nn', it prints the base. In comparison, an NLTK version of the noun printer is somewhat wordier: tokenizer = nltk.tokenizer.TaggedTokenizer() tokenlist = tokenizer.tokenize(text) for taggedtoken in tokenlist: taggedtype = taggedtoken.type() if taggedtype.tag() == 'nn': print taggedtype.base() This first creates a TaggedTokenizer object. Calling the TaggedTokenizer's "tokenize" method breaks the text into a list of TaggedToken objects. Each TaggedToken object contains a TaggedType object and a Location object. The Location object stores the position of the token in the input, the units that the position is measured in (characters, words, sentences, etc.), and possibly a lot of other information we aren't interested in for this task. The TaggedType object contains the base string and the tag, which we get by invoking its "base" and "tag" methods. Despite the extra typing required, there are some advantages to the NLTK approach. You don't have to worry about the details of how the input represents tags, and you could recycle almost exactly the same program for a different tagged text, no matter whether it used "/" or "|" to separate tags or even encoded them as XML attributes. (This is assuming that somebody has written a TaggedTokenizer class for the input format -- which is at least true for most of the sample corpora included with NLTK.) The rigorous distinction between types and tokens that NLTK enforces is an important thing for students to learn. For everyone else, though, it can be just another layer of complication that gets in way of getting things done. A more serious disadvantage is that profligately creating objects within objects within objects takes much more time and uses more of the computer's memory. Such design decisions, combined with the disadvantage that Python already has in speed and with the design team's overall philosophy that it's more important for NLTK code to be clear than to be efficient, can make the toolkit too slow for programs involving large amounts of data. The following two experiments might give some idea of the scale of problem that the toolkit can be handle in a practical amount of time. In the first test, I used NLTK to train a tagger on extracts from a corpus of Cree texts then use it to tag other extracts, using only about ten thousand words at a time. Most steps were nearly instantaneous and none took more than a few seconds. In the second test, I trained a tagger on the million tagged words of the Brown corpus (included with NLTK), which took several minutes. Then I used that tagger and NLTK's regular-expression tokenizer to try to tag a year's worth of CNN transcripts. After an hour, it had finished only three days worth (about a quarter of a million words), an amount that stand-alone programs like the Brill tagger can finish in a few seconds. Since NLTK was designed primarily for teaching, it may be a little unfair to ask how useful it might be for linguists doing real research. On the other hand, students will presumably go on to do their own research -- how much of what they've learned of NLTK must then be tossed away like a no-longer-needed crutch? Also, intentionally or not, NLTK is one of the few tools available for people who would like a compromise between using existing task-specific programs such as concordancers (and being locked into only the options offered and the data-formats required by the programs) and writing their own programs completely from scratch. NLTK has the promise of eventually filling this gap -- offering high-quality components that can be modified, extended, and combined together with minimal time and programming -- but it's not quite there yet. Especially compared to the abysmal documentation that often plagues open-source software projects, NLTK's documentation is quite good, and getting better all the time, but it still has a ways to go. Experienced programmers may be able to use the catalog-like documentation of every last class and function in the toolkit. Newcomers will have more difficulty getting started. The parts of the tutorials that have been written are usually well written. Unfortunately, instead of giving sequences of commands that the reader can interactively type into their own computer as they go along, the tutorials often present only fragments of Python programs without the context that would allow readers to recreate the results. Also, they seem to be aimed at linguistically naive computer science students rather than computationally naive linguistics students. You can, for example, find a longish and earnest discussion of what syntactic constituents are and why they're important, but terms like "stack", "epsilon production", and "polynomial complexity" are dropped with little or no explanation. Even as a companion to a textbook, the documentation will probably not allow a typical linguistics student to use the toolkit effectively without considerable guidance from a teacher. SUMMARY Overall, NLTK is already, as it stands, an excellent resource for teaching computational linguistics. It is also a promising start for a toolkit that will be useful for general work in corpus linguistics - and may already be useful to many for smaller scale tasks or for prototyping larger tasks. This review actually started out in October as a review of NLTK 1.1, which was released in August. Just as I was finishing and getting ready to e-mail it to LinguistList, out came NLTK 1.2 in early November. As aggravating as this can be to reviewers who write too slowly, it points to one of the strengths of the open-source project. Problems tend to get fixed, fast, and the improved version is just as free as the old one was. And if the folks in Philadelphia are moving too slow for you, you can always change it yourself -- just make sure you contribute your changes back so that others can benefit too. ABOUT THE REVIEWER Kevin Russell is associate professor of linguistics at the University of Manitoba. He specializes in phonology and morphology and has built and used computer corpora of Cree and Dakota texts in his research. He wishes NLTK had been around the last time he taught computational linguistics using Python.Mail to author|Respond to list|Read more issues|LINGUIST home page|Top of issue


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My friends in Eastern Europe laugh when I tell them about the dating scene here.
My friends in Eastern Europe laugh when I tell them about the dating scene here.
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|Im sick of playing other peoples crappy online games. Everyone should be able to play one game that gives them exactly what they want. Whether you prefer instant gratification or a rewarding grind we should be able have the best part of all games in a single package. I decided the only way to make this a reality was do it myself. Thats right you heard me, Im making my own game and it will appeal to everyone. Its known simply as The Greatest All-Player MMO Evah (The GAME) and Im giving you, my biggest fans and critics, a sneak peak!
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Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?
if I were to kill a titan tomorrow and no CCP employees showed up to say grats I would petition it.
Waiting for: the next MMO that lets me make this macro
if hp < 30 then CastSpell("heal") SpellTargetUnit("player") else CastSpell("smite") end
This is just another WOW clone. Bring it on down now.
Damn byotch dat aint no friggn moon fool, dat be a friggn space station byotch.
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As long as the BEST groupers are groupers, I would love almost ANY game!
I dunno what is so hard for designers to grasp, peoples who want to be good at grouping, well duh, breaking news, they are groupers. Peoples who want to be good at soloing, eh, another breaking news, they are soloers! Quite simple eh? When someone who isn't grouping ask to be the best at grouping, this is like a kid asking for illogical stuff, you may grant it to them and see the results as SoE experience first hand with FoH, or you may teach them that peoples who are the best at grouping, well they group. Not play baseball, raid or vote democrat/republican, but they freaking group.
But seems to be too hard for most designers to get it. Designers are prolly peoples who fail at learning how to program anyway. So it can be safely assumed that designers are either lazy (and stop programming), stupid, downright lame or any combinaison of these!
That is quite simple, really. Yet, some peoples think that FOREIGN activities deserve better rewards, while in fact they deserve weakers rewards; from a grouping point of view. I agree that soloers doesn't deserve to be better at grouping then a grouper, however not only soloers, every non-groupers. Simple...really...BEST GROUPERS have to be GROUPERS, and nothing else but grouping can be asked from someone who just want to become the best at grouping. Offering alternate paths is cool, enforcing them is wrong (See Saga of Ryzom for referrence about this wrong logic pattern).
PS: I am a GD myself, so I can self-trash all GDs with impunity! I know first hand!
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
Trouble with genres is that scifi is idealized future, and fantasy is idealized past, so there's not much room for else.
Hehe, cool article. ;o
Looks like I will be able to kill mob X for one week...then, if the item that I needed does not drop, I can just use the seemless interface and generate it !
No more frustrations.
I REJECT your reality and substitute my own!
But seriously, not all cars are designed for the road. Sometimes they take a concept and throw a bunch of cool features onto a 'concept car'. They'll then break these features up and slowly apply them to existing cars in mass production. This editorial could really be onto something. We really just need more skill based games though.
to be able todo tis you may need heat resitance and squish resists, and if not you can just filter it out anyway,
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id like to be a gm in this game and fly around in a giant waffle iron with a big picture of scooby doo on it or something that might look like him, oh and can it be a neon orange with neon green dots all over it?
playing eq2 and two worlds
This was the best laugh I've had yet today. This sounds just like my kids' view on what their life should be like.
I'm not sure if this was designed to be a laugh, or a sarcastic jab at the demands of the player base and just how unappealing such a game would be if it were actually created... Perhaps it is a bit of both? Either way, it did make me think about the idea of frustration and how it contributes to MMOGs. I realized that in some games, when things are just too darned easy, even the most interesting gameplay becomes repetitive, because there is simply no challenge. I am reminded of CoV and how, try as I might, I haven't reached 50 yet, but rather have extreme altitis that will take a character into the high 20s to high 30s, where they will then be parked to make way for a new alt. It is not because the gameplay is boring. I actually enjoy mob fighting very much in CoV, for all archetypes except the Dominator, which is, in my opinion, utterly broken for solo play (only due to their inability to solo elite bosses with purple triangles efficiently), but works quite nicely on teams. There comes a point not very long after you get single origin enhancements at 22+ where things start to become a lot easier. The risks are there, but they are far fewer and are easier to compensate for. In one way, this is great, because you do feel as though you are becoming stronger as you advance, rather than just having a fancier looking rat hunter beating down fancier looking rats that always seem to hurt you just as much as when you were level one. On the other hand, the grind starts to stand out more. Fights aren't as challenging, therefore they are less immersive, and the time to level stretches out as you advance, making each battle much less epic and thus easily dismissed as just another obstacle on the way to the next level.
One thing I would enjoy seeing more of, in CoV and all MMOGs, is something to break up the grind. I think the formula of becoming stronger as you level and having battles be trivial most of the time, with a few epic battles here and there to keep you on your toes is a good formula as you advance, while when you're starting out, you should feel a bit more fragile, but not completely outmatched. CoV does this well. What games really need is more immersive content. CoV has moved in that direction, but there is still a long way to go. Cutscenes are used infrequently at best in standard MMOG gameplay, and is usually reserved for epic battle introductions. I'd love to see more random cutscenes, added for humor, to enrich the story a bit, or just to break up the monotony of killing over and over again. The reason the "gimme" attitude exists is due in large part, I believe, to the desire to finish the game because it is so monotonous. All sense of wonder at what might happen next is removed in MMOGs because they degrade so quickly into a 90+% grindfest with the remaining 10% being not all that amazing (crafting, poorly balanced PvP (or PvP at all, for us carebears), socializing in uninteresting places trying to think of creative ways to make rude gestures with emotes not intended for that purpose, etc.).
So, Dan, I'm sad to say that I don't want to play The GAME, because it's not what I'm after. While I do like some of the ideas, I must admit my skepticism that even your creative mind has produced enough truly entertaining content (and I'm speaking of actual plotlines that I can take part in, not just varied worlds that are all distinctly different). The next great MMOG that comes along is going to address content as something integral to the playing experience, something that draws you in and welcomes you to the world, that gives you a sense of urgency in your quests and a true feeling of sadness should you fail a mission, not just because of a lost prize, but because we actually cared what happened to these computer generated personalities.
Great artical indeed
Afcourse no such game will be made nor will such game ever excist but i fully got the point and thats that alott of gamers (wich i like to prefure to as wanna-be gamers) would like to see such a game because most of them totaly lost their way's in what gaming should stand for and for me that's fun and entertainment, i do care about getting nice gear but does this take over my game play, not in any way, also i do not get upset when other do get the stuff (they deserve cause of the time spend getting it) i salute them and just wished i had either the patients or time to get me set for such long journy's , but i do not have to have a game that elimenates all that just because i dislike it. Maybe some day i will hookup with the right kind of groups/people to get me that stuff( something to maybe look forward too)"THE GAME" shows how lazy wanna-be gamers become, a game that pleases everyone i think is truly impossible to make, sure its possible to generate a very large player base, but forums like this show that too many people have too many different idea's on gaming.
With PvE raiding, it has never been a question of being "good enough". I play games to have fun, not to be a simpering toady sitting through hour after hour of mind numbing boredom and fawning over a guild master in the hopes that he will condescend to reward me with shiny bits of loot. But in games where those people get the highest progression, anyone who doesn't do that will just be a moving target for them and I'll be damned if I'm going to pay money for the privilege. - Neanderthal
You forgot that it will have the best graphics with no lag-time. Also, a toll-free number to call, or a chat room, and have someone direct you through if you get stuck (...or lonely). You can leave your character afk with a stack of commands while you go to school/work, and return to the benefit of a day of playing. If you come up with an idea or have something in The GAME you want changed, you simply contact the game dev and they will change it for you. The NPC's are real people chatting with you, 24/7, and they speak any language, even made-up ones (like elvish, or klingon). They give you better info if they like you. Real money is worthless. In fact, The GAME and any item you could ever want for THE GAME are completely free. FREE FOREVER.
Well, overall this sounds unrealistic, but really some of the ideas could be used, in some extent. At least understanding what a player's ideal game is can help them build a game that will please more players and frustrate less. Even the free part.
Great article!!!
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I think you need to sign a deal with Distortion0 to get him to design some avatars for you.
And what did you want to say with this? Because I couldn't find any sense in it...
I didn't find the article funny.
I thought it is quite a useless article, and I spent 5 minutes reading the first few paras. What a waste.
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URBANDALE, Iowa (AP) — Officials have identified the 88-year-old Iowa man who was killed in a weekend house fire in a suburb of Des Moines.
Urbandale Fire Chief Jerry Holt says Donald Running died in the Saturday morning fire. He was found in his first-floor bedroom after the fire was reported around 3:30 a.m. Saturday.
Neighbor Pat Sullivan says she's surprised Running wasn't able to escape the fire because he was always active.
Officials say someone else rented a room at the home but wasn't there at the time of the fire.
Investigators are trying to determine the cause of the fire that started in the basement.


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Good Boots, But Not Waterproof, Not Warm
Pros: Good looking, mini vibram sole, nice color contrast. Great to pair with denim. Quality leather laces.
Cons: Not water proof, no ankle support.
These are a fine pair of boots that I use to beat around in the colder months. They're made very well and also very handsome. Look great with a pair of dark denim and a sweater. Nice leather laces. An aesthetically pleasing boot, but a couple drawbacks. I was expecting a very basic level of protection from the elements, however, they provide little. Heavy rain, puddles, snow -- all will soak right through. If you have to wear these in bad weather, be sure to wear a pair of thick socks. They can also be a little lumberjack looking when worn well out of their context. Very little ankle support, I wouldn't recommend wearing these for a hike across any sort of rocky terrain or steep grades. Price was fair, cannot quite recall it exactly. I am a US9 and wear an 8.5 in these, with room for a thick pair of socks.


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Skip to comments.Barack Obama already knows Supreme Court decision on ObamaCare
Posted on 04/03/2012 10:13:44 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax
If the Supreme Court has followed long standing tradition, the preliminary decision as to the Constitutionality of the ObamaCare individual mandate and perhaps the fate of the law itself was known to the Justices on Friday of last week.
After oral arguments it is common practice for the Justices to meet Friday morning in a conference room where each Justice votes on the case, beginning with the Chief Justice and proceeding according to seniority. Shortly thereafter Justices will be assigned the writing of majority and minority opinions and comment on various case issues. Decisions can change over the months until presentation of the final ruling, which in the case of ObamaCare will probably be sometime in late June. (1)
Whatever happened Friday morning, its a safe bet Barack Hussein Obama was the 10th person to know, having undoubtedly received a call from Elena Kagan minutes after the meeting ended.
What will be Obamas stagecraft between now and the day the Court makes its decision known to the rest of us?
Many political pundits believe Obamas chances for re-election will be seriously impaired if the Court should find his signature power grab unconstitutional. But dont believe it.
As was made obvious by his cynical race baiting in the Trayvon Martin affair, Obama is...
(Excerpt) Read more at coachisright.com ...
I imagine that Kagan called him as soon as the meeting was over. She already refused to recuse herself, so what's one more ethical lapse?
bosh. She was texting in real-time.
Iam thinking it was a 7/2 vote.
Obummer and his crew know that they are screwed. His best
chance is to try to strong arm another one or two. That way they can claim in the fall that it was a Conservative/radical right wing court that over reached and screwed all the parasites of free stuff.
This issue is the dividing line of the era. Between personal responsibility and the responsibility of the group.
The group already cares for children and the elderly. We also care for the disabled, and make sure that immediate needs for the poor are met.
Now we tread on life decisions for the abled bodied. To what degree are we expected to obtain care for ourselves, provided by the group? We need to left alone in this area and decide / arrange on our own; as a measure of freedom. Unencumbered by having to support others in the group. If medical care is not important to an individual, OK. If it is important, then obtain it. Acute care is available for all. Diagnostic care, not so much.
The Won is on Fox right now saying individual mandate was a conservative idea. Tells me he's about to get slammed.
Funny how this communists King can get any information he wants. Let us try and the communists block is damn near air tight. Try getting his college information or his long form birth certificate. It is amazing how strong the communists are in America. Takes years of efforts to get anything.
I think Breyer would be the one to cross if Obamacare is struck down.
However, if it's upheld, then I think that Kennedy and Scalia would be the ones to join the 4 libs. Here's one of Scalia's quotes from 1/2011:
Persuade your fellow citizens it's a good idea and pass a law. That's what democracy is all about. It's not about nine superannuated judges who have been there too long, imposing these demands on society.
That one's got me more than a bit nervous.
He and his little commie friends - like Van Jones - have been hitting it hard since Saturday.
He knows he lost.
If he won - he wouldn't risk alienating a swing vote - because his attacks - and his pals - have all been personal, and "in your face" - an easy way to get a justice to switch.
It plays to his victimhood culture - but realistically - evreyone is just sick of the spoiled tyrant.
There will be a point in the debates - when his adversary just leans over and says "why don't you stop whining about everyone else, and pass a budget, before your term is over".
And when Romney "wins" the nomination the Obongo will say that the individual mandate was ROMNEY's idea. And Obongo will be right. What terrible choices Americans will have in November.
Rush is saying this same thing right now, that O knew the internal vote.
In reading various analyses of the 3 days' hearings, I also got the impression it would not be 5-4 but more like 6-3 or 7-2, or .. wouldn't it be ironice? ... 9=0.
Can somebody, anybody answer the question I have been asking for two and half years now, with ZERO results: "Why was this massive monstrosity needed when we already had HIPAA (Portability) and CHIPRA (child insurance)?" Both are funded through 2013.
To put it in the kindest terms possible, 0bambi is a f'n liar.
Worst case is that the court comes back with 'this is a tax' and dances around a bit. Because simply put, the easiest way to sidestep this whole arena is raise taxes by 5k a person and give a 'tax credit' of five thousand to everyone who complies with the buying of health insurance.
Yes, it's a backdoor mandate, but a lot harder to challenge that Congress' power of making tax breaks.
I want the unequivocal, even if by the slimmest of majorities, ruling that specifically slams Congress for overstepping their bounds and limiting the commerce clause.
ya , a little troll told him
no she was getting the others their coffee!
If POTUS knows the vote and it was favorable, it would have been the height of lunacy to "politicize" the decision by saying what he did. The most sensible course of action would have been to keep his mouth shut.
Thus, either he knows the vote was against him or he was preemptively trying to steer votes without knowing how people were inclined to vote. But the problem with the latter interpretation is that POTUS was silent all last week. If he wanted to preemptively steer votes, the best time to have done so would have been in advance of Friday's vote. Even he has to know that any justice who changes their mind on this momentous issue is going to look foolish or craven. Thus, if the goal was to "steer" their thinking, it was best to do so before they committed to a vote since once that vote is cast, it will be much harder to justify changing it.
In light of the foregoing, I'd put the odds that he knows the vote at better than 4:1.
Even before Barack Hussein Obama was "sworn in" (yeah, THAT flub-a-dub production) he immediately began his relentless "march of destruction" across the Constitution, with apparent deceit and malice aforethought. "Keep 'em confused" seems to be his method. - He's a bizzy, bizzy, little wannabe ruler. - If he loses the election, look for a doozy of a temper tantrum and a level of fit throwing the likes of which you cannot imagine in your wildest dreams. Inciting riots? Hope not; but who knows what he will do in the wake of what he has already done to divide this country?
I will admit, that dude can read that teleprompter, and Speech 101 taught him well not to make a hissing sound with his "s's" at the end of his words. - His regime tenure has been the most EXHAUSTING, DEPRESSING, OPPRESSIVE, TIRESOME, DISCOURAGING, YOU NAME IT, ever, in the history of this country.
Be careful what you wish for,if Obamacare gets dumped the economy will probably soar and get the Marxist reelected
I'm worried that somehow Obama will find a way to get to one of the justices in favor of overturning his law to change their vote by some sort of intimidation behind the scenes.
I don't think that he necessarily has the inside scoop. Hardly anyone on TV last week thought that it would be upheld, even liberal pundits. I'm not counting any chickens until they're hatched though.
Hey, it's just words used for political purposes and loyalty checks. You're not really a liberal if you still need them to actually make sense.
Did I ever mention that gravity is purple, and sounds like Middle C? It's true. Just waffle it with some cherries and ask around. Everyone agrees - except those who aren't IN the group.
All the Republican politicians the Party had to choose from as an opponent for Hussein in November and they pick friggin' Willard Romney, the ORIGINATOR of the most hated damned thing Obama has done during his Regime!!!!
Now THAT is a perfect example of the mind of the Republican Party—nominate the guy whose TURN it is, or the guy who has done the most FAVORS for Party leaders. In short, the MOST POPULAR DC insider with the Party elites.
I realize that is the real reason for DeathCare; however, the question I REALLY wanted to get answered was the coverage was there with HIPAA & CHIPRA, so why add another program. Perhaps your response is why no politician will answer the question.
On another note, why are we spending money on both DeathCare AND HIPAA + CHIPRA? Money we don't have.
America better wake up and realize their country is being driven into bankruptcy by scumbag politicians. We don't even have the money to cover half of the current bunch of entitlements the government promised to people. Where do the supporters of this bill expect the trillions of dollars to come from to pay for it? Too many Americans have faith in this corrupt government and too many believe in a free lunch.
The preliminary vote was done. No one but the justices know this outcome. Then comes the writings and, yes, a justice can change their mind in the end after reading the opinions.
But isn't there some hard fast rule on letting this information "leak"? Can't the Chief Justice punish any of the others for a "leak"?
In reading various analyses of the 3 days hearings, I also got the impression it would not be 5-4 but more like 6-3 or 7-2, or .. wouldnt it be ironice? ... 9=0.
In the case of the latter, I suspect that AJ Kagan would have finally done the right thing, if only to cover her ample posterior, and abstained from voting, a last second recusal, if you will, thus 8-0...
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Welcome to the first edition of Writer's Bloc. Each week during the football season, I'll be asking questions to reporter that covers whatever team Northern Illinois is playing that week.
This week, we have Jim Polzin, the Wisconsin beat reporter for The Capital Times. Jim was kind enough to answer a few of my questions and I think you'll definitely learn more about about the Badgers and even find a good place to eat on Saturday in Madison. I'll be answering questions in his blog in the next day or so. You can read Jim's coverage of Wisconsin here. Enjoy.
John Sahly: Quarterback was certainly a spot up for grabs at the start of camp, what have you seen out of Saturday's projected starter Scott Tolzien?
Jim Polzin: Tolzien is a guy that pretty much everybody -- myself included -- didn't think would be a factor in the quarterback derby. In fact, I'd venture a lot of people probably thought true freshman Jon Budmayr had a better chance to start than Tolzien did. Tolzien is smart, but he's not really flashy. Turns out, that's exactly what the Wisconsin coaching staff loves about him.
He's smart, he's poised, he's dependable. He might not make the great play, but he won't make the stupid one, either. And, quite frankly, Badgers quarterbacks made far too many dumb mistakes (turnovers, bad decisions) last season.
JS: What does Curt Phillips bring to the table and how much playing time do you see him getting?
JP: Phillips is the fastest quarterbacks Wisconsin's had in quite a while. They'll use him out of the shotgun -- which is pretty much unheard of around these parts -- and see how he does as a change of pace to Tolzien.
My guess is we'll see Phillips at some point in the second quarter, and how well he performs will dictate how much playing time he gets the rest of the way. The thing that cost him the starting job all to himself in camp was throwing too many interceptions, so that's something he obviously needs to avoid.
JS: How will the injuries on the offensive line affect the offense as a whole?
JP: I think this is a legitimate concern. Wisconsin's best offensive lineman, left tackle Gabe Carimi, injured his right knee midway through camp, although he should be fine for Saturday. The starting center, John Moffitt, is out and will be replaced by a true freshman, Travis Frederick; it's the first time a true freshman has started at center at UW since 1991.
The right guard who was supposed to start, Bill Nagy, also is injured and likely won't play. But his replacement, sophomore Kevin Zeitler, had a really good camp and isn't much of a drop-off -- if at all -- from Nagy. Which leaves the two guys who really were under the microscope when camp started to improve their play: left guard Jake Bscherer and right tackle Josh Oglesby, who arrived at UW with enormous expectations but has yet to live up to them.
JS: What has the situation been like at safety? How have the players handled it?
JP: I don't think losing Shane Carter and Aubrey Pleasant to indefinite suspensions was as big of a distraction as it could have been. Then again, I'm not in the locker room. To be certain, the depth took a big hit when those guys were suspended. Instead of two fifth-year seniors as backups, now you have a sophomore and a redshirt freshman.
JS: How much pressure is on Bret Bielema entering this season?
JP: I've been asked a lot of times in the offseason if Bielema's on the hot seat. My answer? No, but the seat is getting warmer. Here's why I say that: I think Bielema will be back in 2010 unless this team goes 4-8 or something worse. And as favorable as UW's schedule is, I just don't see that happening.
Now, if the Badgers do end up with a losing record, I think Barry Alvarez has to take a good, hard look at whether Bielema's the right man for the job. Bielema has talked a lot in the offseason about accountability, and I think he's referring to himself as well as his players when he says that. So, yes, it's a big year and I'm sure he's feeling the heat, whether he chooses to admit it or not.
JS: Finally, where can I (and our readers) get a good meal near Camp Randall?
JP: There's no shortage of options here, and I know I'm going to leave something out. You can get a great burger at any of the bars that line Regent St., which is near the stadium. Mickey's Dairy Bar is very close to Camp Randall and is a great place for breakfast on Saturday or Sunday morning. State St. isn't exactly near Camp Randall, but it's well worth the 10-15 minute walk. State St. Brats is another place that will provide a good mix of meat and beverages.
My personal favorite on State St. is Tutto Pasta, up near the Capitol. Even if you're not hungry or thirsty, State St. is an absolute must on any visit to Madison if for nothing other than people-watching.


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I don't know if this is the right place to post this but I'm having some problems trying to find the right method of baby-wearing. My baby is 3.5 weeks old and I've given up on this stinkin' wrap I have. I watched the video and did exactly what I was supposed to do but the little guy does NOT like it. I tried on a friend's ring sling and he didn't like that either. I have a Snugli that he seems to like but it's torture on my back and I'm limited because I can't bend over without him slipping out of it. I'm frazzled trying to accomplish my housework and take care of my family either one-handed or waiting until he's asleep. Even when he's sleeping, though, I have aweful guilt over leaving him there all by himself. I ache to hold him all the time. The only time I feel ok doing what I need to do is when daddy is home to hold him. This is not always practical and I'm going nuts trying to juggle everything around his erratic sleeping episodes. If anyone has experience with this and can give some insight as to what might work best, please help. I'm desperate.
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Is this your first time babywearing? I had a big learning curve with the ring sling. It took me several weeks before I started to get the hang of wearing it.
I would suggest reintroducing the wrap and/or sling several times over a few weeks/months. It may just take some time for him to get big enough to be comfortable.
Have you tried different positions? Some babies like being upright more than laying down, so that might be the cause of his discomfort. Here are a bunch of videos with different positions.
You may want to try the ergo with the infant insert. Maybe try to borrow one from a friend or test one in a store? But they do hold their resale value if it doesn't work out for your little dude.
I will add that some babies just plain don't like to be worn.
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I LOVE the mei tai for the newborn period (well all the stages really!). You can put them in froggie style till they are old enough to sit in it. I have heavy babes and a bad back and it still works for me and I have a 30 pound 1 year old. With a mei tia the sweet babe can ride in front facing you as a youngster (now till 6 mths or so), side or hip carry till you flip 'em around to the backside and they love riding along with mom or dad on back. I have a 3 year old that still likes to be carrried in his baby carrier.
I also got a Beco baby carrier (like mei tai but with buckles instead of tying the babe on) and that works pretty good too. I rotate back and forth between those 2 and my wrap. The wrap can have a pretty big learning curve, but is the MOST supportive I have found and I can wear it for hours when we go for hikes.
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I also had difficulties with the ring sling when my oldest daughter was an infant. After trying several types, I now own 7, I have found the Moby Wrap to be the best for the youngest ones. Wraps spread the weight of the baby across the entire back while holding the baby securely against your chest. They can be a little tricky to get on the first time, but get progressively easier. Do you have any baby wearing friends nearby to try out different styles?
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"Kind words can be short & easy to speak, but their echoes are truly endless." Mother Theresa
"Even when he's sleeping, though, I have aweful guilt over leaving him there all by himself. I ache to hold him all the time. The only time I feel ok doing what I need to do is when daddy is home to hold him. This is not always practical and I'm going nuts trying to juggle everything around his erratic sleeping episodes."
Oh, I remember aching arms to hold that babe, even for just a few minutes to shower, you feel incomplete without them! But your right, you need to find something that works. It was tough until someone actually walked me through ste-by-step and showed my how to do it. After that I always questioned how I made it through my day without it. I am one of those moms that whatever baby carrier I have it needs to match my outfit because I never take it off! Do you have a local babywearing group? How about your local API group or your local LLL group? You can always find a babywearing mama or two at those meetings.
Good luck!
Have you visted the site: http://www.mamatoto.org/? It has videos, step-by-step instructions and is sorted by age, by carrier, by position. This was really helpful with my wrap for my 3rd child.
Hang in there. I bought a wrap when my boy was ~1month old... the learning curve was pretty steep... and you need the coorperation of the baby too... my boy was more patient with me when he was older... anyways... i admit that it is not easy to learn... but once you get a hang of it... it's worth your time invested.
My suggestion... learn to tie one position (carry) at a time... keep doing the same carry over and over again until u master it before u learn the next one. My son is ~5months old now, and only now I'm starting to learn how to carry him on the back... he's been riding me in the front on frog style all these time. So you need to be patient, your part is easy... will power will do... but the baby... u need to "negotiate" that on a daily basis.
Good luck! Trust me... it's all worth your effort!
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Hi. I have an Ergo and it has only been in the last month that Zim has started to really enjoy, dare I say even tolerate it. I had the infant insert and could get it to work occasionally but found, like almost everything, every day was different. Some days he hated it. He loves his space and does not like to be contained. He is a little bed hog and will sleep spread eagle once deep enough. Our little unfolding flower!
Most of my friends used a HugABub until 6 months and then moved to the Ergo and all their babies seemed to take to slings like a fish to water. I found the infant insert in the Ergo to be difficult; however, I was a very nervous momma (hopefully that is taming a bit) and worried about his hips, his spine and his neck. I found that will other mommas around I could manage to get him in and we enjoyed the experience, but alone, I worried myself out of using it. Now that I am more confident and have slowly reintroduced him to it. We love it. It feels comfortable and saves my back. I am small and Zim is a big baby and with the Ergo I can get around easily, have my hands free and little love next to my heart. I also like that I can have him on the front, back or side.
PS. I found mamatoto to be an excellent site, as well. In the beginning it was my confidence that was the biggest obstacle for babywearing.
I started wearing DS when he started to get to heavy to hold, and I remember him not liking it at first, also it felt to tight, then to loose, etc..I tried many times before it felt comfy, and DS was happy. Don't give up.
I didn't like the ring slings in the beginning, it kept on slipping off, but i'll try again now that DS is bigger.
Oh, yeah, and don't worry about the things not getting done, you should see my house! but DS is happy and so am I!
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A couple of suggestions:
Some babies like one position over another (some want to face out from very early on, another may only like to be horizontal) so try different positions to see if one will work better than another. I usually ask people how baby likes to be held because that's usually the position that they'll tolerate in the sling. Also, babes will often 'feel' your anxiety, so you may want to practice with a doll/stuffed animal/cat to get used to putting babe in it so that you don't "scare" him out of it! Also, practice in front of a mirror and over a soft surface if you can, so that you can see and not have to worry so much. Once you get baby secure, try the bouncy walk with the "sh,sh,sh,sh"--most babies will go to sleep!
One other important suggestion would be to have your little one checked by a chiropractor that sees kids. Birth can be traumatic on their necks/backs/pelvis' so sometimes the pressure from positioning them in a sling will aggravate their discomfort. How else can they tell you but by crying? My hubby and sister are chiros. and my kids had gentle adjustments right after birth. It can also prevent issues of colic, breastfeeding troubles, sleeping issues, etc.
I see lots of great suggestions particularly the fact that different babies like different carriers/carrying positions. The wraps have a steep learning curve but so many mommy's love them for there comfort and versitility. If you can find a LLL, API or babywearing group in your area you are bound to find local help.
For what didn't work, I tried an adjustable pouch with lots of pain for me, a baby bjorn with lots of pain for me, a Maya Wrap ring sling I just couldn't figure out how to wear comfortably (although my hubby liked it for awhile). For what did work: I loved my mei tais, particlularly my Kozy, and I love my Ergo (when I first started using it at 4 mo I would just fold my sons legs in and he still uses it frequently at 2 yo).
Things I'd try if there is a next time: I hear lots of great things about the new butterfly beco that is great for newborn up. Reported to be very comfy for mom and baby. I would also get a woven wrap. The mom's that have mastered them just love them. I've seen mom's nurse hands free chatting with me using a Moby (I know it is stretcher than woven but it seems to make sense to just purchase 1 wrap since Moby doesn't do too good as they get heavier).
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dedra---leader, api of stark co., ohio
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i'd also like to suggest trying to get some help to come in around the house, like family or friends to bring a meal or two. do you have family close by? your baby is still a newborn and this can be an overwhelming time, but also a nurturing time, not only by you, but FOR you.
I also HIGHLY recommend trying a mei tai. There is a slight learning curve, but it's not too difficult to get the hang of it. The mei tai is much better than, say, the Snugli carriers because of sheer comfort (the baby feels weightless and no strain on your back) and versatility (you can do back, side, and front carries). Also, the Snugli carriers (and other front carriers on the market) are not very good for babies because they dangle the baby by their crotch. The mei tai supports the babies spine. But, not all mei tais are created equal. I am good friends with the creator of the Kozy Carrier (www.kozycarrier.com). She is a fabulous woman and her carrier is probably the most popular mei tai out there. Her website gives a lot of great information about mei tais and how to use them. Another great carrier is the Babyhawk Carrier (www.babyhawk.com). These women have an endless list of colors and patterns that you can choose from. I have one of these...it's pink w/brown & pink stripes. Very cute. The body is square, which I needed because my daughter wouldn't keep her arms inside of the mei tai (a lot of them are curved at the top). And, of course, if you are intimidated by the long straps (really, they aren't a big deal), then you could opt for a Becco which has buckles (although a bit pricey).
I do have to say, though, that I didn't start using the mei tai until Lily was about 4 or 5 months old (until she could sprawl her legs around my belly comfortably). Although, Kelley Mason (Kozy Carrier creator) puts her newborns in her carriers from day 1...literally. :-) I used the Over the Shoulder Baby Holder for the first few months, which worked great for me. It was very comfortable...and easy to use.
One more thought...if you do decide to try a mei tai...I highly recommend that you buy the "Tummy-2-Tummy" DVD, which will show you exactly how to use a mei tai (Kelley Mason is the demonstrator in the DVD). It's $20.00 online, but it was definitely worth it. It will teach you how to use a mei tai, ring sling, wrap, and pouche. www.tummy2tummy.com
Good luck with your choices! :-)
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My fave for the 1st year was my Kangaroo Korner pouch. I hated the ring sling...just never worked for us. We love our Ergo now, but miss using the pouch - so comfy, sooooo easy, and super cute too! And imo, the KK pouch is much better than the better known hotsling.
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I've got some videos showing holds for a different type of sling that can do "wrap holds" or "ring sling holds". Some have found them helpful even if they don't have my type of sling.
I, too, have got the Tummy to Tummy DVD, but it doesn't cover everything!
Here's for the wrap type holds: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_lis...335D557A5EC008.
Here's for the ring sling type holds: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_lis...03AC507B84C2E3
Or here for twin sling:http://www.youtube.com/view_play_lis...8D2DEA65F82E30
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Thank you ladies for all of your advice. After attending a LLL meeting with a couple of women who knew wraps I discovered I had the wrong type of fabric all along. So I ventured out to find a more stretchy fabric and stumbled upon Joanne Fabric having a 50% off sale. Lucky for me the girl running the check-out wasn't real great at math and, despite our attempt to correct her mistake, she insisted that 50% of $34.98 was $3.09. Ok, who am I to argue? When I cut it to size I had two wraps for the same price as a candy! Ha! I put the baby in it and within seconds he was sleeping peacefully. Oh, I just love having him that close to me and it's sooo comfy. There isn't nearly the strain on my back that I had using the Snugli. We're going to the Earth Day Festival today to test it out. I can't wait. WOO HOO!


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I have twins that are 14 weeks old (were born at 37 weeks) and when they were about a week old I started a bad habit. I have a huge twin nursing pillow and they happily fall asleep nursing (exclusively breastfeed...usually tandem). Whenever I would try to move them to a PNP or crib they would scream and we would have to nurse again to get them calmed down and back to sleep. Well after a few sleepless nights I caved and went downstairs to the couch where it's easier to tandem nurse. Once they fell asleep I would lean back and I got sleep!! It sucks sleeping sitting up but we all sleep so well. I co-slept with my son and this was pretty similar and we all were much happier the next day. Fast forward 3 months and my back is killing me and these sweet babies can't fall asleep without cuddling up. Usually it takes nursing but just walking and bouncing or the swing works during the day. I NEED to get them in their cribs and I've decided it's going to start this Saturday. I'm having spasms in my back and need to do it. SO many people tell me to let them cry and that is just not me. The more I read the more I relate to Dr. Sears and AP. SO I'm hoping you guys can help me. We're all so used to them falling right to sleep on me we don't know where to start. They scream if we lay them down to try and get them to go to sleep awake but wake up within 30 minutes (we got 45 min one time!!) if we put them down asleep. Any help is greatly appreciated!!!! Sorry for the book
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Naomi- Leader API of Frederick MD
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Hello! In your bog you mention trying to use a certain book for help in getting them used to the crib.
Dr. Weissbluth's book offers a myriad of "no cry," "maybe cry" and "let cry" solutions, depending on your circumstances
I do understand your need to get them in a more agreeable sleeping situation as your couch arrangement is not working. Have you tried the sleep and roll away technique on a mattress on a floor? One person in our local group who has twins does that.
It sounds like you are committed to AP concepts but having twins is throwing your personal balance off.
Try to be gradual, flexible and remain sensitive to their needs even if they are at nighttime!
Are the cribs in your room, next to your bed? Does your husband do any nighttime parenting? Great job nursing them! I am happy you are getting such good sleep now!
I hope this transition works well for you all.
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Thanks for replying. I think I've researching like crazy for an answer that I can agree with. A lot of the twin moms on another forum swear by HSHHC so I figured I could try it. In the book he says:
Let Cry - Ignoring, extinction "The idea is to respond if you think your child is hungry but not at other times"
Maybe Cry - Controlled crying, Partial Ignoring, Graduated Extinction - "leave your baby for about 5 minutes, then return and soothe him back to the sleepy state or put him down after soothing. If loud crying recurs, leave your baby for 10 minutes and then repeat the soothing progress. This sequence repeats with an additional 5 minutes of ignoring his crying until he falls asleep during one of the crying spells or does not cry after your soothing effort. Another method is to also increase the time of ignoring before checking on your baby, but increase the time by about 5 minutes every 2 days."
No Cry - Check and Console - "quietly enter whenever your baby cries to see that she is all right and gently soothe her in darkness but you try to not pick her up. Instead, you rub her tummy, stroke her hair, or gently rock the crib. You do the least amount of rocking, singing, and if necessary, nursing to soothe her back to a calm, sleepy state." He goes on to say "this method could teach some babies to cry more frequently and longer in order to receive more soothing"
I don't know what is best to do which is why I came here looking for other ideas. I have tried sleeping with them on our guest bed (DH is scared he will roll on them) but they just wake up. I can't figure out how to sleep with one on each side because they roll into me when I roll the other direction and wake up. I'd keep trying that method BUT I really want to go back to sleeping with DH. It's looking like he's going into the military and will be gone for several months for training so I really want to spend more time with him. I'd also like the babies in their cribs so they sleep better during the day and also they are ready for bed by 8pm at the latest and I'd love some evening time to relax with hubby, run errands, clean, etc...
The cribs are in their room. They have never slept well in the PNP for long. We figured we'd just get them in their cribs in their room and get it over with rather than doing it in two steps but maybe it is worth it to put one in and let them sleep together and do it slower?? It's just a pain because the cribs don't fit through the doorway. DH is bad at nighttime parenting. He had good intentions before they were born but after...he had a hard time waking up when I needed him and he would be so crabby that I ended up getting mad and frustrated. It was easier doing it on my own on the couch. Now he's going to have to suck it up and help soothe so maybe 1 crib in our room isn't a bad idea
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none of weisbluth's definitions are compatible w/API's approach to Nighttime Parenting. the point of nighttime parenting is to establish trust w/the child, so that they know they can trust you both during the day and at night. being responsive to a child's needs, regardless of the hour is what produces healthy, long-term relationship benefits. in addition, research has proven that extended crying can cause emotional and brain damage. a "time of ignoring" is simply antithetical to what AP is. i think to myself "what if my partner treated me in this way? what if he used 'times of ignoring' with me when i was upset?" it just sends the wrong message to these little ones who are turning to us for support.
your situation is very difficult. i can't imagine trying to negotiate the difficulties of having twins, both during the day and at night. i commend you for being committed to bfing and nighttime parenting.
what about putting them on a mattress on the floor next to your mattress on the floor? they'd have their own sleep surface, but you'd be able to attend to them at night, w/out getting them out of bed.
We figured we'd just get them in their cribs in their room and get it over with rather than doing it in two steps but maybe it is worth it to put one in and let them sleep together and do it slower??
We still co-sleep with our soon-to-be 6 yo. twins. We love it. We also have our soon-to-be 4 yo. and the baby in bed.
If one twin wasn't severe SN and had to be with us I'm thinking they would enjoy sharing a bed in their own room now.
But, look into co-sleeping, then you can still all get a good nights sleep. Like a PP mentioned, a matress on the floor right next to yours would probably work great. We have 300 cm. of bed.
The stuff you described over here is like Ferber, like crying it out. You never, ever ignore a babys cry day or night in the AP spirit. It can be very damaging, like the PP said, emotional and brain damage. They are still very little, they need you. It's just natural. You need to make them safe and secure, by building a bond and responding to them also at night. They will trust you to be there in time and things will be easier.
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