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Let's make a deal
Robin Brownlee
June 07 2008 11:37PM
It's far more likely Edmonton Oilers GM Kevin Lowe will make a trade for a significant roster player at the 2008 Entry Draft than it is he'll swing a deal to move up from 22nd in selection order.
Lowe has never moved up, although it's not for lack of trying—he toasted his cell phone in 2003 trying to get a crack at Ryan Suter, Dion Phaneuf or Braydon Coburn before moving down to take Marc Pouliot over, ahem, Zach Parise.
With a glut of second- and third-line forwards and depth on defence, Lowe said his week he'd consider moving assets in a three-for-one or even four-for-one deal—a top-three forward is the target.
"It's a matter of me and the organization trying to do our best to manage the assets, improve the hockey team," he said.
"If that means getting into a situation where we move a couple, maybe three or four assets for one or two coming back, a player and a draft pick or something, that might be a good thing."
Joni Pitkanen is Lowe's best bargaining chip because there's still people around the NHL who don't laugh out loud when the phrase "future Norris Trophy candidate" is attached to his name.
Puck-movers who skate as well as Pitkanen are at a premium and the Oilers are in a position—assuming Sheldon Souray doesn't slip and fall in the shower and Tom Gilbert and Denis Grebeshkov continue to develop—to shop him in a package and see what the returns might be.
A source in the east who I know and trust says there's already been inquiries about Pitkanen. That doesn't mean Lowe has something on the table, but the schmoozing that went on at a meeting of GMs last week is bound to turn into more substantial talks by draft time.
As for possibilities, I'm with Team 1260 loudmouth Bob Stauffer in thinking the Ottawa Senators are prime candidates as trading partners. The name being mentioned, of course, is Jason Spezza.
More in coming days...
Done Deals
Lowe trades leading up to and at the draft.
June 24, 2006: Acquire 3rd round pick in 2006 (Theo Peckham) from Atlanta for a 3rd round pick and 7th round pick in 2006.
June 21, 2003: Trade 17th overall pick to New Jersey for the 22nd pick (Pouliot) and the 68th pick (J.F. Jacques).
June 23, 2002: Jochen Hecht to Buffalo for the 31st pick (Jeff Deslauriers) and the 36th pick (forward Jarret Stoll) in 2002. Trade the 14th pick to Montreal for the 15th pick (Jesse Niinimaki) and the 245th pick (Tomas Micka).
June 18, 2002: Trade a third-round choice in 2003 and a conditional selection in 2004 to Philadelphia for Jiri Dopita.
June 24, 2000: Roman Hamrlik to the New York Islanders for Josh Green, Eric Brewer and New York's second pick (Brad Winchester) in 2000.
June 12, 2000: Fifth-round draft choice in 2000 to Nashville for Patrick Cote.
Just Asking
- What was Aaron Downey doing after Game 6 of the Stanley Cup Final guzzling champagne in Detroit's dressing room while wearing equipment? Downey didn't play, so what's with the gear? Did the equipment crew spray on fake sweat, too?
- Why did people insist on comparing the Penguins to the 1983 Oilers? As Glen Sather told Jim Matheson in the Journal last week, it's a bogus angle. Three seasons from now, 2010–11, there won't be more than six players remaining from the team that lost to Detroit.
- Why would the Oilers pay Curtis Glencross more than $1 million when they have a cheaper, younger alternative—with more upside—like Pouliot in the mix? Enjoy Florida or Carolina, Curtis.
- What is it, exactly, Craig MacTavish sees in Marty Reasoner? As MacT said last week, "I want Marty back!" It's so mind-boggling, I'm tempted to go for an MRI to see if I've lost my brain.
—Listen to Robin Brownlee every Thursday from 4 to 5pm on Total Sports with Bob Stauffer on Team 1260.
Why did people insist on comparing the Penguins to the 1983 Oilers? As Glen Sather told Jim Matheson in the Journal last week, it's a bogus angle.
I wondered the same thing:
Bogus, like you said.
Why would the Oilers pay Curtis Glencross more than $1 million when they have a cheaper, younger alternative—with more upside—like Pouliot in the mix? Enjoy Florida or Carolina, Curtis.
And thank you, yes, absolutely.
Don't buy into Stauffer's line about Souray. He's not a puck moving defenceman. Gilbert and Grebs might make Pitkanen more expendable but Souray has nothing to do with the question, or shouldn't (other than, I suppose, he can eat PP minutes...if healthy).
Tyler: Exactly right. I have never considered Souray a puck mover. What he was two seasons ago in Montreal was a point producer and, looking at his career stats, I'm of the mind that kind of production might have been a one-off. I see a healthy Souray as a 40-45 point guy. A puck mover he's not -- he's nowhere near the league of Pitkanen, Gilbert or Grebeshkov in that regard.
Jonathan: Solid analysis. I understand why reporters pursued the angle -- the demands for reams and reams of copy from reporters during The Cup borders on ridiculous -- but it was a stretch.
By the way, I'm not sure about your hockey or journalism background, or if you even have one, but you're writing some very good, must-read stuff.
June 08 2008, 11:29AM
Good article.
What was Aaron Downey doing after Game 6 of the Stanley Cup Final guzzling champagne in Detroit's dressing room while wearing equipment? Downey didn't play, so what's with the gear? Did the equipment crew spray on fake sweat, too?
Answer: All the black aces and players that didn't play all came out on the ice for their chance to have a turn with the Stanley Cup. I thought it was a classy move by the Red Wings.
June 08 2008, 12:53PM
Is the Spezza thing just speculation on your part?
It doesn't quite fir the criteria you were looking for here, but Lowe's dealing up to get Nash was a nice draft day deal that could benefit the club.
I'm beginning to worry a little here about this "top three" forward. If they get Erik Cole and Pitkanen is going the other way, does that mean they're going with the current D (- Pitkanen) without adding a D?
Hemsky: The bottom-line answer is yes, but it's speculation that's shared by a few people in the know and speculation based on reasonable circumstances -- in the case of Ottawa, the pending loss of Redden and potential cap issues.
Lowetide: Don't read too much into Cole for Pitkanen. Matty is basically doing with Cole what I'm doing with Spezza -- looking at a situation that makes some sense based on circumstances. In both cases (Ottawa and Carolina), I don't see a problem going with the current defence minus Pitkanen, do you?
101: Yes, I know it was for the team picture. I was just pointing out it's a bit phoney. Injured players and those not in the line-up used to just appear in track suits or street clothes. Just because a player didn't play in the final game/series doesn't lessen his role or contribution to the team. Getting them to put on the gear seems a bit contrived.
Robin: I'd like to see another veteran in there. If they start the season with Souray, Staios, Grebeshkov, Gilbert, Smid, Greene and Roy is that enough?
Souray is better than we thought he'd be and is a PP asset who can PK too, but it would be nice to have a solid EV 4th to go with Staios, Gilbert and Grebeshkov. I don't think Smid is there yet, do you?
June 08 2008, 04:39PM
I agree with lowetide, Pitkanen had a dissapointing year but he was still on the top pairing and constantly matched up against other top lines. That needs to be replaced.
Smid's a work in progress, but I don't see a problem if he's playing third-pairing minutes. Pushing him into the top four is where things get dicey. I think Gilbert will rebound from his poor showing late in the season. If Greene gets over his broken ankle, I see a workable top six in terms of a mix of puck-movers and defensive guys. Injuries the magnitude of the past two seasons, of course, will throw a wrench in the works, but you can't build a team always fearing the worst. At the same time, I wouldn't be against acquiring a cheap, reliable veteran for insurance. And what about Peckham in a pinch?
June 08 2008, 04:52PM
I get the impression though that Lowe is trying for the homerun trade ,the multiplayer deal.
Robin do you feel that the Oilers are looking to use Pitkanen as the centre piece of a multiplayer deal?
That is the impression I get from the interviews and piecing things together.
June 08 2008, 04:54PM
LOL, I think it was more of a case of the Red Wings having the players skate with the Stanley Cup and feeling part of the team then being contrived.
But you and I can agree to disagree on that one.
101: Yes, my feeling is Pitkanen will be the centre of any significant trade the Oilers pull off. Despite struggling -- relative to his first couple of seasons -- he's still young and has the potential to be a first-pairing defenceman in this league for the next 10 years. Potkanen has cachet around the league and will bring the best return of any Oiler blueliner.
June 08 2008, 05:02PM
If Pitkanen is dealt what do you all think about getting Pavel Kubina from Toronto? It was reported the Oilers had interest around the trade deadline.
The Oilers certainly improved their blueline with Grebeshkov and Gilbert emerging last year.
I would prefer keeping Pitkanen to be honest, and rolling with what they have up front. The Horcoff-Penner-Hemsky line, followed by the kids and then a veteran 3line around Stoll, Moreau, Torres, Pisani and then the 4line with the leftovers there, Pouliot and the names I've forgotten would be fine by me.
If Lowe does a three-for-one, would you suggest someone aside from Pitkanen as being part of the deal? By that I mean "the Edmonton Oilers trade Joni Pitkanen, Rob Schremp and blah blah blah" for the return you mentioned Lowe talking about above (the player and the pick)?
I know you've mentioned Schremp before, what about Smid? Is there any market at all for Jacques?
June 08 2008, 06:34PM
Lowetide, Robin.
I tend to agree that keeping him for a year and then trading him (even mid-season) is going to be the better option.
I believe ultimately he will be traded as there is just going to be too much money on the defence.
But garnering a better return is going to happen when he has a better season. Right now there is still the tag "potential" written on him.
Right now the only way to get a top 6 winger may be to package him, this may not be the case next year.
Lowetide: If you trade Pitkanen AND Smid, now you have to get back a D-man in the trade or you have to acquire one in a separate move. Not wise. The "market" depends on the other team. Is there a market for Schremp? On a handful of teams as a secondary part of a package deal, yes. On others, no. As for Jacques, he's a throw-in in almost any deal. He has little value right now and is represents a chance to dump a contract more than anything else.
Robin: Who do you see them dealing (aside from Pitkanen) in a three-for-one?
Lowetide: Depends. A proven top 3 forward (a 35-goal or 80-point guy) will cost you Pitkanen, a top-nine forward and a top prospect. Hate to be vague, but, again, it depends on which team you're dealing with when it comes to wants and needs. The only roster players I can't see being made available are Hemsky, Horcoff, Gagner and possibly Cogliano and Gilbert. Of the prospects, some potential trade partners would be intrigued by the offensive potential of Schremp. Others would see him as a big gamble and want a safer prospect with less upside like Pouliot or ??????
Robin: Just for fun if we were to assume that Spezza was the guy Lowe managed to pick up, then wouldn't that immediately make Horcoff available?
If you consider that this team needs to grow for atleast one more year before truly condtending then where would Horcoff fit beyond this upcoming season?
Spezza would be the #1 center, Gagner would have to be considered #2 by that time so by default Horcoff is #3 and costing 5 mil a season in the process.
Factor in Cogliano, Stoll (assuming he rebounds this year), Brodziak and obviously Reasoner (for some inexplicable reason) and I just don't see where Horcoff would line up. All of those guys would be making a more appropriate amount for playing down the roster. For that matter would Horcoff even re-up here if he saw that he was being pushed down the depth chart?
In the light, what I would be curious in knowing is what would Horcoff fetch you at this years trade deadline? He seems exactly like the type of player that a cup favourite would like to add for their run.
As for trading Pitkanen, if he in part gets you a guy like Spezza, as you're speculating, then I say go for it. If he in part gets you Cole, like Matty is musing, then I hope Lowe keeps him.
Spezza is the type of player that you get a crack at once in a blue moon where as Cole is the type of player you probably get a crack at once a year if you're willing to pay the price. I don't think you waste a talent like Pitkanen on that type of guy.
Not unlike last summer when Lowe settled for (atleast) Plan B OF Plan C in signing Penner. This year I don't see the same pressure to deal for the sake of dealing.
I wonder if Gaborik or Lecavalier are at all in play. Havlat, Cole, Tkachuk, Cammalleri are some others who could be.
If we were to get a player like Spezza, we wouldn't have the cash to get a veteran D unless we traded Stoll/Torres for picks. I'd like to see Brad Stuart added to our D but knowing Detroit he'll probably sign for a million under market to stay there.
Rick: I wouldn't trade Pitkanen straight up for Cole, let alone throw in anybody else. I'm not a big Joni fan in terms of what I've seen (as opposed to his first two seasons in Philly), but I know talent when I see it.
Let's not knock Horcoff down the pecking order so quickly -- this talk about getting a Spezza or a No. 1 centre is only talk. If Lowe pulls it off, I don't think being the No. 2 centre immediately sends Horcoff packing. He's a 1-2 centre and he will get his ice time (and his money) here because he plays special teams. It's a leap to put Gagner ahead of Horcoff on the depth chart at this point -- let's not forget, Horcoff was the Oilers best forward until his shoulder injury.
As for Cogliano and Gagner, let's not rush them into permanent second line status just yet. They showed lots of potential with Nilsson, but that was with a line-up decimated by injuries. You and I might not like it, but the reality is there's going to be an adjustment in their roles and ice time when everyone is healthy.
Robin, agree on Horcoff. Put simply, Zetterberg would light up Gagner in a playoff series. Against Horcoff, it would be a battle. His ability to play hard minutes is invaluable. What do you think it would take to get Spezza? Pitkanen, Cogliano and Torres?
I'm in the "land a home run or wait to see what you got crowd". There hasn't been much continuity in the lineup since the lockout.
June 09 2008, 10:57AM
Wow, it would take a lot more than a gimpy Pitkanen to get Spezza. I'm not saying that Murray wouldn't like to trade Spezza (his ties to Emery are strong), but a package would have to be pretty sweet to get a #1 centre that is locked up for years. I'm definitely not a fan of the 3 Chevys for a Cadillac trades (re: the brutal Joe Thornton trade).
Robin: I realize that trading for Spezza is only talk but hey, it's summer. Talk is all we have at this point and it was a name you threw out there.
Where I am coming from is that you have Horcoff down as an untouchable where as I figure it's a good question to ask that IF Lowe did get Spezza (or any other top calibre center), then what does that mean for him, not next year but beyond that?
Gagner is already being considered the future of the franchise so we can use pen in writing his name down for the long term. IF it was Spezza that was brought in then you have him for the next seven years as well.
Then in Horcoff's case you have a guy that is a free agent in 1 years time and will probably both demand and get 5 mil a year on a long term contract.
So in looking down the road a bit, if you kept Horcoff you would end up with about 13 mil in two centers with neither of them being Gagner, who is supposed to be one of the guys this team will be built around.
Horcoff would be a beauty on the second line next year but I still think he comes off the untouchable list after that because at the outside Gagner is probably two years away from being a fixture in one of the top two center spots and THAT is when signing Horcoff to a long term UFA contract bites Lowe in the ass.
Unless of course Gagner is brought along slowly on the 3rd line so he can learn to play good defensive hockey?
But if that was the case you should probably look at giving up the radio gig because Stauffer's head would explode under such a circumstance and that could prove very messy if you're in the room when it happens.
Tom: Like I said in my earlier comment, it'll probably take Pitkanen plus a top-9 forward and a prospect to land a top-3 guy like Spezza. You can fill in the blanks with the top-9 guy and the prospect based on Ottawa's needs.
If you can get a player like Spezza, for Pitkanen, lets say Torres and a prospect (Shremp or Jacques), please Lowe what are you waiting for!!
No particular writing background (some academic writing), but thanks for the compliment ;)
As to going with the current group of defensemen, minus Pitkanen, chalk me up under the "Please, dear God, no!" group. I feel like a bit of a blog-tramp for putting up two links in the same comment section, but this is a detailed look at the current group:
I really feel that if the playoffs are the goal next season, a decent shut-dwon defenseman is imperative.
June 09 2008, 12:41PM
RobinB: You could be on to something. If Lowe dangled a top-6 F(long coveted by Murray, especially with Stillman unrestricted) then there's a chance a deal of that magnitude could work.
good to see Jonathan getting some recognition, always terrific stuff over there
I'm a little late to this but here's my two cents - is it possible they have Cogliano pegged for the #3 centre spot and they will bring in a Sykora type to play in the top six - less of a blockbuster move but then they have another year to evaluate Pitkanen and see if he can ever recover his prelockout form?
I would prefer a D with Joni - my thinking is that they use this year to evaluate these D and that either he or Grebs will get the longterm deal. The other gets moved. Same with Smid and Greene. A lot of attractive kids on their way up.
Robin - gut feeling regarding Horcoff? I believe a few months ago you wrote that they likely won't push to sign him this summer but that you could see them extending him once the season was underway. Still thinking that? Apologies beforehand if I'm misremembering, like Andy Pettite.
I like the idea of getting Spezza but I just don't see Ott willing to move him without a center coming back or having the chance to sign one as a free agent. Having said that maybe Ott makes the move and worries about it later because there is definetly something that is not right there.
All these people who try to predict the dates for the end of the world, one of these days those guys are going to be right.
I feel the same way when people start believing Lowe's springtime "quanity for quality" refrain.
btw - downey? definite screw loose there, I think he got all geared up, evrybody rolled their eyes and made a note not to make eye contact with him
Regarding all of the whispered issues about the Sens, Spezza is apparently part of the problem as well. I would think that Ottawa would think moving Emery might help solve that.
bdhs: My gut feeling on Horcoff is more about the situation than about him in particular. Oilers want an upgrade to play with Hemsky. They aren't going to yank Penner from that equation having just overpaid for him, so the natural guy to look at is Horcoff. If they pull off a deal for a No. 1 centre, like Spezza, Horcoff is fine as the No. 2 this season, but it does pose questions about his status down the road. My feeling is he's a MacTavish guy and the Oilers will do what it takes, within reason, to keep him for a season or two beyond his current deal -- if he's satisfied as a No. 2 guy. There's nothing wrong with Gagner being a No. 3 centre (plus PP time) for another two or three years. He's only 18.
Not to beat a dead horse but although Gagner is only 18 if he progresses the way everyone hopes or even expects, he is only 2 years away from a very significant long term extension.
Assuming the trends in signing young stars in the league to lucrative long term contracts stays the course or worse yet offer sheets become more common place. Something else to consider I would think.
IMHO, If a deal is made ala Pitkanen for Spezza I would have to say that Horcoff is a requirement to go as well from Ottawa's POV. Same goes for the Marleau or Jokinen speculation.
If I was Lowe, I would not even trade Pitkanen. Pitkanen had a bad season but this is his first year as an Oilers. Gilbert and Pitkanen are the 2 best defensemens the Oilers currently have right now. Pitkanen is still young and he was 1st rounder 4th overall pick. Spezza would be a great aquisition for the Oilers but I just dont see how in hell they can pull it off without trading some of their young talents. Im not a big fan of horcoff but he bind very well with hemsky last season. This current team made 9th place this year with a whole pile of new faces, I think next season this team can make the playoffs with no problem.
Rick: You are beating a dead horse. Yes, you have to plan ahead, but you are making certain assumptions about who will or won't be here two years from now when the make-up of a team can can change with one phone call.
what about something like redden for torres and pitkanen?
If you have a chance to get a top forward here right here and now who cares about what happens in 2 years. At some point we need to live in the now.
I just can't see the Sens moving Spezza without Horc going back the other way.
It wouldn't make sense on their part. They'd need to get Horc -- sign him longerm upon acquiring him, plus get one of our D because that's starting to thin of them as well. And another forward.
Ty: Give your head a shake. Redden is a UFA July 1, so the Oilers don't have to trade for him. Even if they did, I wouldn't trade Pitkanen straight up for Redden at this point in his career, let alone throw in Torres. You do not trade a player with the upside of Pitkanen, even with his shortcomings, for anything but a clue-chip player and Redden is a notch below that at this point in his career.
We've heard repeatedly that the Red Wings are held in high regard due to their organizational patience. They have taken late picks and succeeded in developing those players by not rushing them to the NHL and demanding results too early. The list of players the Oilers have lost patience with is largely a function of a novice managment and coaching staff who don't understand how to build a team.
Ken Holland has also picked up players discarded by other organizations. (See Draper, Maltby and Cleary for 3 examples). The coaching staff then worked with those guys. The level of loyalty flows both ways as a result. What kind of loyalty do you think Lowe et al inspire around the league with his ham-handed tactics?
What's with this notion of trading 3 or 4 to 1 players and selling the farm to acquire a softy like Spezza? The guy has never showed up once in the playffs which is when it really matters. He has great talent but no heart therefore he'll never acquire a Hart. He will cost a bloody fortune and I don't think he would even come to E-town. Suggestions on a local radio show about getting rid of Pitkanen, Smid and a forward or two for Spezza is about the stupidest thing I've ever heard from someone not wearing a bib and aan adult diaper.
If they go after a top drawer guy they should go for the type of guy who is a leader and has all-league talent. Oh yeah right...first you have to find a GM who wants to get fired for letting such a player go. Bottom line there are no quick-fix shortcuts. I know it, you know it, but Kevin Lowe and Bob Stauffer don't seem to grasp it.
June 10 2008, 05:58PM
Brownlee... comparing Glencross to Pouliot is a joke. Pouliot doesnt have the speed, the stamina, the guts or the hitting power to do anything close to him. Pouliot's crapped the bed consistently. then you bring up Reasoner later? Reasoner and Pouliot shouldnt even be in the NHL. say goodbye to Stortini's game too when Curtis jets town. he made that line consistently a forechecking powerhouse with this speed to keep the puck in the zone and play the boards strong. Storts just sat on the back of the hard work of Curtis and Brodziak like a parasite. sure, he's asking for too much but dont think that his contributions arent going to hurt the other SUB-PAR players in the bottom 6. if anyone needs to go for being overpaid its Pisani and Torres. id rather have Curtis over Pisani, who like Curtis, caught lightning in a bottle but is nowhere near as intense and got a pass because of chron's disease. sorry, not buying it. the dudes on his way out. keep Curtis and dump Pisani in a trade. Glencross can PK with his speed.
Glencross can PK with his speed.
I'm going to ignore the nonsense about whether or not Pouliot belongs in the NHL, and just focus on this comment.
Has Glencross ever PK'ed? Not in Columbus, and not in Edmonton. He averaged two seconds per game short-handed this season, and frankly, if Hitchcock thinks he can't do it, that probably means more than your opinion.
Since we're on the subject, all of those talking about how much better on the forecheck Glencross is than Stortini, give your head a shake. Glencross is good, no doubt, but he averaged an identical hits/game number to Stortini.
Finally, looking at quality of competition:
http://www.behindthenet.ca/2007/basic_5_on_5.php?sort=7&mingp=&mintoi=&team=EDM&pos=F Glencross only played against the other team's 4th line. He made the most of it, but there's absolutely no evidence to date that he can effectively shut-down top opponents, which I would expect if he were to get 1.5M+
DeathMetalDennis: Pisani got a pass because of Crohn's disease? You're not buying it? Not buying what? He's a finalist for the Masterton Memorial Trophy for overcoming this career-threatening illness (ulcerative colitis). What a stupid thing to say. Jackass.
Rob: Your grasp of the facts is tenuous-- your playoff argument tells me so. Spezza has 39 points in 40 career playoff games, so how is it he has never shown up once?
I agree with Bob that Spezza makes sense because of Ottawa's circumstances and it will take Pitkanen, a top nine forward and another player or prospect to get him -- if the Sens do a deal at all.
June 10 2008, 09:13PM
Robin and what players have the Oiler lost patience in Mac't coaching era have had success?
Can you name even three?


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It started out as an earnest promise: if his daughter would stay single, stay in school and earn a college degree, her father would go back to college himself.
It was not a promise made lightly, however.
Posted on: 06 May, 2009
A Water Safety Instructor new material review will be held from 6 to 8 p.m. Friday [MAY 8] at East Central University. The review will be held in the Tiger Cinema room located on the second floor of the University Center. Cost will be $20. Contact Holly Christian at 559-5745 for more information.
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Laura Johnson of Holdenville is the first recipient of the Don and Jane Kellogg Mathematics and Science Teaching Scholarship at East Central University. Johnson is a freshman majoring in mathematics with a concentration in teacher certification.


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Grasso, Eliot John (University of Oregon, June , 2011)[more][less]Grasso, Eliot John 2011-09-12T18:11:40Z 2011-09-12T18:11:40Z 2011-06 http://hdl.handle.net/1794/11557 xxiii, 507 p. This dissertation contextualizes melodic variation within a cultural, historical, and cognitive framework. This work discusses how traditional musicians learn how to vary melodies by observing norms of social and musical behavior exhibited by senior musicians. The core of this dissertation is the transcription and analysis of fifty source recordings of fifty different Irish musicians playing one tune each dating from between 1904 and 2007. Though the transcriptions of the recordings exhibited a high instance of melodic variation (48.2% of the measures), only a small percentage of variation fell on set accented tones (an average of 7.3%). The considerable invariance of set accented tones suggests that part of what constitutes the concept of a tune in an Irish musician's mind relates to the pitch of these key tones. I introduce the term aesthetic conservatism to designate a philosophical approach to performance practice that seeks to maintain both the dance genre and tune identity. I argue that aesthetic conservatism may be a by-product of archetypes and exemplars created through transcriptions and recording technology. This conservatism may also be a function of famine-induced fear of cultural dissolution or inferiority with respect to more prominent music-making supercultures. I call on the philosophy of aesthetic conservatism to explain why few set accented tones are varied. Of the measures that were varied, 74% of those variations involved the addition, subtraction, or redistribution of ornamentation. To catalogue the variety of variations within this sample, I propose a taxonomy that is designed to account for the number of notes in a measure and to assess intervallic differences over successive repetitions of a tune. Finally, I propose a theory to explain the cognitive processes that allow a musician to vary a melody. I suggest that in the mind of a traditional musician there is both a tune schema and a variation schema. These are flexible models that are distinct and separate but that interact within a short span of time because of the exceptionally efficient anatomy of a musician's brain. Committee in charge: Anne Dhu McLucas, Chairperson; Lori Kruckenberg, Member; Stephen Rodgers, Member; Glen Waddell, Outside Member en_US University of Oregon University of Oregon theses, School of Music and Dance, Ph. D., 2011; Music Cognition Dance music -- Ireland Instrumental music -- Ireland Ireland Taxonomy Variation Traditional music Melodic variation Melodic variation in the instrumental dance music tradition of Ireland Thesis
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Protecting Yourself Against Identity Theft
by Bill Hardekopf
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Data breaches and identity theft are becoming more common and widespread. There is no way to predict where and when it will happen next, but you can take steps to protect yourself to avoid many of the consequences of identity theft.
Here are some of the protections available:
Credit Freeze
A credit freeze is the best way to protect your credit score and to prevent someone else from opening an account in your name. Only you can place a credit freeze or remove it. Before an event occurs, you can put a freeze on your account at the three major credit bureaus, TransUnion, Equifax, and Experian. If your account is frozen, only the companies that you already do business with can look at your report. It will block any new accounts, so you will have to temporarily remove the freeze to apply for new credit.
The credit freeze is free for identity theft victims and also for senior citizens in some states. The cost for non-victims varies by state and the same fee applies for removal.
The only downside is that a freeze may interfere with applying for anything that pulls a credit report, such as an application for a credit card, mortgage, insurance, apartment rental, or a job.
A credit freeze is a good protection for older adults against scams as well as friends or relatives who could open an account in their name.
Credit Cards
Credit cards offer the strongest protections against fraud. As soon as you discover the fraud, contact your credit card issuer. Once you report the loss or theft, you have no further responsibility for unauthorized charges. Your maximum liability under federal law (Fair Credit Billing Act) is $50 per card. If the loss involves your credit card number, but not the card itself, you have no liability for unauthorized use. Contact your bank or credit card issuer as soon as you learn about the fraudulent charges made to your account.
Debit Cards
Under federal law, if you report an ATM or debit card missing before it's used without your permission, the card issuer cannot hold you responsible for any unauthorized transfers. If unauthorized use occurs before you report it, your liability under federal law depends on how quickly you report the loss. Some banks, like Bank of America and Capital One, reimburse you for any unauthorized debit card transactions up to the amount of the loss, when reported within 60 days from statement date.
Prepaid Cards
Prepaid cards are not regulated and consumer protections offered by prepaid debit cards are voluntary. They can be revoked or revised by the issuer at any given time and for any given reason.
Credit Card Fraud/Loss Protection Insurance
You do not need credit card fraud protection insurance. It can cost hundreds of dollars, but federal law already gives you free protection. The law limits your fraud liability on credit cards to $50 per card before you report the credit card missing; many cards have zero liability policies and you don't owe anything if your card is stolen.
Credit Monitoring Services
Credit monitoring services track your credit report at one or more credit bureaus and will notify you if there is an inquiry or activity made in your name. Some monitor websites, databases, and public records, which can be helpful for someone who has already been an identity theft victim.
Before signing up for a credit monitoring service, make sure they check your credit report from all three credit reporting agencies (TransUnion, Experian, Equifax). Check with the Better Business Bureau and your state attorney general to see if complaints have been filed against the credit monitoring service.
Credit monitoring services charge to do it, butt you can do a great deal of this yourself for free. You can get free annual credit reports from the three major bureaus at AnnualCreditReport.com.
If you subscribe to a credit monitoring service, don't assume that you are completely protected. There are gaps in the coverage and it takes time for a creditor to report a new fraudulent account. If you pay for a credit monitoring service, you still have to watch out for yourself.
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Starting Next Summer, Easy Bake Ovens Will Be Gender Neutral
Due in large part to the inspired efforts of 13-year-old McKenna Pope of New Jersey, Hasbro will start manufacturing gender-neutral Easy-Bake Ovens. The new ovens, which will be black, silver and blue instead of the standard purple and pink, should available sometime next summer.
The campaign was launched in late November after Pope's four-year-old younger brother asked for an Easy-Bake Oven for Christmas. Pope, who'd previously noted her brothers penchant for cooking (he used to "cook" tortillas over a lightbulb in his room), was happy to oblige but was appalled to discover the ovens are only manufactured in pink and purple. As she put it on her online petition:
I feel that this sends a clear message: women cook, men work.
I have always been adamantly against anything that promotes specific roles in society for men and women, and having grown up with toys produced by the Hasbro corporation, it truly saddens me that such a successful business would resort to conforming to society's views on what boys do and what girls do.
The petition quickly went viral and has since gained over 44,000 signatures in just 18 days. Celebrity chefs Bobby Flay and Michael Lomonaco have also publicly supported the campaign.
Hasbro eventually took notice and invited Pope, along with her family, to their Rhode Island headquarters on Monday for a meeting, where executives showed off their fancy new unisex ovens. Apparently, the company's been working on the new design for 18 months, which, side note, seems insane considering the only change is in the color scheme. The new ovens are set to debut at Feburary's Toy Fair in New York and will be available for purchase sometime next summer.
And, as Pope requested in her petition, the company is also putting boys in their new advertisements.
Said Pope: "I think that they really met most or even all of what I wanted them to do, and they really amazed me."
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He met with journalists angry over an official probe of bribes to police for news tips.
Scotland Yard detectives are trying to track down a purported secret recording of media mogul Rupert Murdoch allegedly telling journalists from The Sun newspaper that he was aware that paying public officials for news tips was part of the "culture of Fleet Street," The Guardian newspaper reports.
On the tape, obtained by the British investigative website Exaro and broadcast last week in part on Channel 4, Murdoch allegedly admits he was aware of the practice of bribing public officials.
The comments were made during a purported meeting in March between Murdoch and nearly two dozen reporters and executives from The Sun who had been arrested over allegations of illegal news-gathering practices.
More than 60 journalists and public officials have been arrested in connection with the probe, dubbed Operation Elveden, that grew out of an earlier scandal involving phone-hacking. Many of the arrests stemmed from information the Murdoch media group voluntarily turned over to police, The Guardian has reported.
At one point, Murdoch tells the journalists, "It's the biggest inquiry ever, over next to nothing."
LISTEN: Excerpts from the tape
On the recording, which Exaro says was made by a participant in the meeting, a Sun journalist asks Murdoch, "I'm pretty confident that the working practices that I've seen here are ones that I've inherited, rather than instigated."
The voice identified as Murdoch responds, "We're talking about payments for news tips from cops: that's been going on a hundred years. You didn't instigate it."
Earlier in the tape, The Guardian reports, Murdoch tells the journalists: "I don't know of anybody, or anything, that did anything that wasn't being done across Fleet Street and wasn't the culture."
At another point in the tape, Murdoch appears to suggest that any journalists convicted and jailed in connection with the police inquiry could get their jobs back, although he was apparently reluctant to say so directly.
"I will do everything in my power to give you total support, even if you're convicted and get six months or whatever," he says.
"You're all innocent until proven guilty. What you're asking is: what happens if some of you are proven guilty? What afterwards? I'm not allowed to promise you -- I will promise you continued health support -- but your jobs. I've got to be careful what comes out -- but, frankly, I won't say it, but just trust me."
The Guardian reported that a Scotland Yard detective told Exaro News that the police would seek a warrant to seize the tape if it was not turned over voluntarily.
Murdoch shut down the 100-year-old News of the World, his flagship Sunday paper in Britain, in response to a scandal of phone hacking and payments to police for news tips.
News UK, formerly known as News International, has maintained that the 82-year-old news magnate, whose worldwide empire includes The Times of London, The Australian, Fox News, and The Wall Street Journal, strongly denied that Murdoch had prior knowledge of payments by his journalists to public officials.
According to The Daily Mail, a spokesman for News UK, the British division of News Corp, said Murdoch: "never knew of payments made by Sun staff to police before News Corporation disclosed that to U.K. authorities. Furthermore, he never said he knew of payments. It's absolutely false to suggest otherwise.'
The Mail quoted Labour MP Tom Watson as noting that Murdoch's comments on the purported tape contrasted with his contrite appearance before a House of Commons committee investigating the various scandals.
'There is a man who sat before Parliament and said he had the highest integrity, they were working their way through it, cooperating with the police, and people who hacked phones or paid police would be immediately dealt with, and then you hear him assuring people that if they go to jail they might get their jobs back," Watson told Channel 4 news.


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Boom & Bust
Patriotic Duty
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Theme: The Land
Artist: Norman CREIGHTON
Birth/Death: 1943
Title: Australian farm game
Credit Line: Crafts Board of the Australia Council Collection 1980. National Gallery of Australia, Canberra.
The hard reality of rural economics is encapsulated in this work. With the same materials and skills as silversmiths used in the 19th century when making elegant silver and gold table centrepieces to celebrate rural wealth and achievement, Creighton updates this form of conspicuous consumption to the form of the executive desk toy. With the detachment of the 'city farmer', windmills, water tanks and kangaroos can be moved about the game board in futile rearrangements of dwindling resources.
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Tim Allen is another possibilityReplyCancel
Sadly had Robin Williams not died he would be my guess. Still grieving.ReplyCancel
If it was Matthew Perry, the BI would say something about his outspokenness about this issue (i.e. his talk-show argument with that British guy about addiction, his "mentoring" of other H'wood actors, etc.) and his very public battle over the years.
That's why I'd go with Martin on this one, but maybe I'm just giving today's Enty too much credit for being thorough.ReplyCancel
Chevy Chase?ReplyCancel
Jim Carry fits a lot of these clues but he has not done any tv aside from guest roles on very successful shows. Matt Perry was never Mostly Movie and never A+. Martin Lawrence may have reached A status during the "Big Momma" movies but I thought his issues were mental rather than drugs.ReplyCancel
Martin Lawrence is currently promoting Bad Boys 3, been making appearances. (Doesn't mean he didn't suddenly go to rehab, but it would have to be as of yesterday.)ReplyCancel
Give Martin Lawrence the benefit of the doubt. He dehydrates easily when he overexerts himself exercising. Sure he's jogging the wrong way in the middle of a busy highway wearing a hot-pocket of a jogging suit, but to each his own.ReplyCancel
Chevy Chase's stint on Community was disastrous until the end – he was actually very good in it but then started acting like a major asshole towards everyone – at least that was the impression I got
Matthew Perry definitely not mostly movie
Martin Lawrence is currently starring in "Partners" with Kelsey Grammer and will be filming Bad Boys 3 soon
Has anyone seen this show to confirm it is indeed disastrous?ReplyCancel
Cristian Slater started on television and his show Mind Games was a disaster this past spring. He was a child actor and has had problems in the past with the booze. Heathers would be considered a dark comedy, but not sure he would qualify as a comic actor.ReplyCancel
It screams Robin Williams but why would they go there now?ReplyCancel
I think it intentionally screams Robin Williams, only Enty can explain why.
Martin Lawrence's show with Kelsey Grammer only lasted 8 episodes on FX. Grammer got good reviews, Lawrence did not.
Lawrence was on Conan last week, talking about the new Bad Boys movie in development. Conan made a point of saying how good he looked. Maybe he was helping out a old pal from stand-up days.ReplyCancel
LOL @ Haywood!ReplyCancel
I think Billy Crystal's tribute at the Emmy's will give us closure. At least I hope it does.ReplyCancel
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Whether you're looking for a bite to eat or the nearest (and cleanest) public restroom, smartphone applications can help you explore New York City with ease. We've compiled a list of some of our favorite NYC-centric apps so that, wherever you are, you can have the City at your fingertips.
Don't forget to visit nycgo.com's very own mobile site for great info on attractions, dining, shopping, events, deals and more, and see below for a list of helpful apps for navigating the City.
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Making your way through the streets of New York has never been easier thanks to these navigational apps, which provide detailed street and subway maps, transit information, the best corners for hailing a taxi and more.
BusBus NYC
Use with: iPhone, iPad
This live bus-tracking app shows you the location of actual buses on NYC streets, with green arrows on a real-time street map updating their location. This free app helps you know whether it's worth waiting or if a walk might be quicker.
CabSense NYC
Use with: iPhone, iPad, iPod Touch
CabSense NYC analyzes data from the New York City Taxi and Limousine Commission and other sources to help users find the best nearby street corners to hail a taxi based on where you are and when you need it. The app even comes with a built-in "cab hailer"—simply shake your phone and it will whistle and display a flashing message.
Embark NYC Subway
Use with: iPhone, iPad, iPod Touch
Find out where your train is and when it will arrive with Embark NYC Subway (there's also an Embark Metro-North). This app, which works without a cell phone signal, serves as a trip planner that sends schedule updates based on service changes and advisories.
Exit Strategy
Use with: Android, BlackBerry and iPhone, iPad, iPod Touch
Don't waste time mentally calculating which subway car door will bring you closer to the exit at your destination—this app does it for you. In addition, Exit Strategy provides detailed maps of the entire subway system, as well as bus maps for all five boroughs and an off-line street map of Manhattan (which works underground). Note: while the iPhone/iPod touch version 2.5 includes the entire subway system, the Blackberry and Android versions include every stop in Manhattan but only some in Brooklyn, Queens and the Bronx.
Get There By Bike
Use with: iPhone, iPad, iPod Touch
The Get There By Bike app is a useful tool to help cyclists, leisurely riders and daily bike commuters navigate the road. Powered by Google's Bike There service, the app provides directions for users that account for traffic, hills and local off-street bike paths. Bike boulevards, lanes and routes are also included. Record your own routes and mark dangerous intersections, safe bike-parking options and bike-friendly businesses on the shared map, too.
Use with:or Android or iPhone
Gett has emerged as a rival to Uber, offering fixed-price rides in central Manhattan, advance booking and a few other features to entice City riders.
iTrans NYC Subway
Use with: iPhone, iPad, iPod Touch
In a rush? This app finds the fastest route between any two New York City subway stations, taking into account current schedules and service changes. iTrans NYC Subway provides users with detailed maps and walking directions, and even works off-line (or underground).
MTA Subway Time
Use with: iPhone, iPad, iPod Touch
Track your train with this app, which provides live, up-to-date schedules for the 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and L trains. Users can find nearby stations and receive alerts about any service delays to select lines.
Use with: Android, BlackBerry and iPhone, iPad, iPod Touch
Find yourself longing for the nearest wireless hot spot, craft beer bar or pharmacy with late-night delivery? MyCityWay combines urban reference apps and app platforms with important City info and tips from its own user community to bring you a super-loaded City navigating tool.
New York City Compass
Use with: iPhone, iPad
This bare-bones app provides users with one simple but vital piece of information for efficient urban orienteering: it tells them whether they're going uptown, downtown or crosstown (east or west).
NY Waterway
Use with: Android and iPhone
NY Waterway's East River Ferry offers frequent and fast service connecting Manhattan with locations in Brooklyn and Queens as well as Governors Island. With the NY Waterway app, users can consult route maps and schedules, get service advisories and look up bus options near ferry terminals. Best of all, the app allows users to buy paperless tickets and simply present their phone as proof of purchase.
Use with: iPhone, iPad and iPod Touch
MTA's Trip Planner is a handy way to plug in your location and destination and find options for the quickest way between the two. You can add in personal preferences, like the maximum amount you'd be willing to walk.
Use with: Android and iPhone, iPad, iPod Touch
Uber took the car-service world by storm with its system of quick pickups by licensed, independent drivers. Get a fare quote, connect with your driver and let the automated system do the rest.
Use with: Android and iPhone, iPad, iPod Touch
Have you ever found yourself standing on the subway platform on a Sunday night, tapping your foot frantically only to find out there was work planned on your line? Well, the Weekender app is your guide to getting around NYC when construction alters your weekend subway service. The app displays all service changes so riders can navigate around diversions.
Whether you're a lifelong local or a first-time visitor, there's always plenty to discover in NYC. These apps provide key information on the City's top tourist attractions as well as on lesser-known destinations that might not have been on your radar.
Central Park
Use with: iPhone, iPad, iPod Touch
The official mobile guide to perhaps New York City's most popular green space, this app from the Central Park Conservancy provides users with a wealth of information about the many attractions and activities in Central Park. View a fully interactive map, read up on the park's history, get the latest news on concerts and much more.
Downtown NYC
Use with: iPhone, iPad, iPod Touch
This is the official app of the Downtown Culture Pass, which offers discounts to Lower Manhattan cultural attractions as well as for the odd event and dining experience. Visit Wall Street, Century 21, the South Street Seaport and other popular destinations.
Explore 9/11
Use with: iPhone, iPad, iPod Touch
The official mobile app of the National September 11 Memorial & Museum in Lower Manhattan offers information and insight regarding the tragedy. Users can view a timeline of that day's events or take a walking tour of the area around the World Trade Center, accompanied by audiovisual narration and first-hand reports by first responders, rescue workers, volunteers and others. The app also includes an augmented reality mode, which overlays images taken by survivors and witnesses on your phone's camera view.
Grand Central Terminal
Use with: Android and iPhone
Grand Central's official app lets you check on Metro-North trains (times and track numbers) and navigate your way around the many dining options in the station.
I Love NY
Use with: Android and iPhone, iPad
The state's official tourism site has an app that will help you find attractions and events in every New York region, including, of course, NYC.
Use with: Android and iPhone, iPad, iPod Touch
This company focuses on themed routes in the City; samples include pizza slices, Sex and the City locations and ghost sites. Tours come with audio guides.
NYC SampleSales
Use with: iPhone, iPad, iPod Touch
Do you know what time the Theory sample sale starts? Is it uptown or downtown? The NYC SampleSales app answers all those questions, plus informs you of dozens of sample sales throughout the City that you might be unaware of.
NYTimes The Scoop NYC
Use with: iPhone, iPad, iPod Touch
This app from The New York Times provides users with the paper's staff picks on places to go and things to do in the City. Browse a variety of restaurant, café, event and shopping listings, as well as compilations of "New York experiences."
St. Patrick's Cathedral Tour
Use with: Android and iPhone, iPad, iPod Touch
While visiting this massive landmark, you can listen to a guided tour given by Cardinal Timothy Dolan and Monsignor Robert Ritchie, the church rector. Originally built in 1858, the cathedral is one of the City's most spectacular architectural sights, boasting altars, stained-glass windows and a giant organ with more than 7,300 pipes. This app gives users in-depth information about this and more.
Time Out New York
Use with: Android and iPhone, iPad, iPod Touch
Time Out's app provides up-to-date event listings as well as reviews of art exhibitions, concerts, bars and restaurants. Listings can be further broken down into the Critics' Picks and Free & Cheap categories. Users can also save their favorite venues and locations and send listings to their friends.
Top of the Rock
Use with: Android and iPhone, iPad, iPod Touch
The Top of the Rock app makes taking photos from one of NYC's most recognizable vantages a snap. Get postcard-esque pictures of the view, using special effects to mimic shots from years past. Options date back to 1933 (a time machine that does work!), and the app allows users to share and upload their images via social media outlets. It also serves as a high-tech pair of binoculars, digitally labeling notable landmarks in the distance like Central Park, Yankee Stadium, The Met and the George Washington Bridge. The app also includes a guide to nearby stores and restaurants.
UrbanWonderer Audio Tours
Use with: Android and iPhone, iPad, iPod touch
Uncover new finds on themed City routes with UrbanWonderer Audio Tours. This free iPhone app offers GPS-driven, self-guided sightseeing tours for first-time visitors and business travelers, as well as native New Yorkers.
VanDam NYC Maps
Use with: iPhone, iPad, iPod touch
NYC ShopSmart features a helpful guide with info on hundreds of the City's best stores; the company also has apps for sights, art and food.
With some 24,000 eating establishments and a plenitude of bars located within the five boroughs, New York City has a dining destination for every budget and taste. Use these apps to browse some of the City's finest restaurants, find reviews by critics and locals and more.
Use with: iPhone, iPad, iPod touch
Look up menus and restaurants by cuisine type, neighborhood and price range. The app also allows users to download delivery and takeout menus from participating eateries.
Use with: Android, BlackBerry, iPhone, iPad, iPod Touch and Windows Phone
The perfect app for the foodie on the go, OpenTable allows users to search for restaurants, see menus and reviews and make reservations. Users can also earn rewards points redeemable for "Dining Cheques" good at any restaurant on OpenTable.
Real Pizza of New York
Use with: iPhone, iPad, iPod touch
New York City is a great pizza town; don't waste time filling up on mediocre slices. This app provides recommendations for NYC pizzerias that would get the stamp of approval from discerning local pie aficionados. Real Pizza of New York also includes the history of select pizzerias as well as all the information you need to go on self-guided pizza tours.
Use with: Android and iPhone, iPad, iPod Touch
Hunt down your favorite gourmet food truck with this easy app that offers a real-time food-truck map. It follows vendors' tweets to mark their locations and share the day's specials, secret discounts and more.
Use with: Android, and iPhone, iPad, iPod Touch
With this app, you can search for and browse nearby restaurants and read ratings and reviews from newspapers, bloggers and other diners. Still can't decide where to eat? Depending on the type of mobile device you own, just shake your phone or press the app's "spin" button and the Urbanspoon slot machine will choose for you.
Use with: Android, iPhone, iPad, iPod Touch, Palm Pre and Windows Phone
This app allows users to search for nearby restaurants, bars, businesses and stores and also provides photos and—as you'd expect—plenty of opinionated user reviews of venues.
Museums and Art
The importance of NYC's role as a center for art and culture cannot be overstated; with hundreds of world-class museums, galleries, concert halls and theaters to choose from, there's something for everyone. These apps can help you navigate and explore some of the best cultural attractions New York City has to offer.
Use with: iPhone, iPad, iPod touch
With this app, you can browse current and future Broadway productions, as well as see show info, curtain times and ticket prices. Users can also find hotels and restaurants in the Theatre District.
CultureNOW: Guidebook for the Museum Without Walls
Use with: Android and iPhone, iPad, iPod touch
Some of New York City's best art isn't found in The Met or MoMA—or within the walls of any museum, for that matter. This app showcases the vast number of public works of art to be found throughout the City streets. Users can find information on artists and individual pieces, browse photos, take neighborhood tours and listen to podcasts featuring artists, architects, historians and curators.
Explorer: The American Museum of Natural History
Use with: iPhone, iPad, iPod touch
This app serves as a personal tour guide through the halls of this world-renowned museum, providing users with customized information and step-by-step directions to exhibitions. Users can also share their discoveries with family and friends via email, Facebook and Twitter. The American Museum of Natural History also offers some exhibition- and collection-specific apps, which you can find at amnh.org.
The Metropolitan Museum of Art
Use with: iPhone, iPad
To help you come to grips with this colossal art collection, the Met's app provides listings, recommendations and a way to remember what you like and what you want to see and do.
Use with: iPhone, iPad, iPod Touch
The next time you're planning a visit to the Museum of Modern Art, use this app to plan the best way to navigate the museum's permanent collection and current exhibitions. You can thumb through thousands of works, take multimedia tours, learn about featured artists and even take a photo via MoMA Snaps to send to family and friends. The museum also offers a books app.
New York Philharmonic
Use with: Android, iPhone, iPad, iPod touch, Blackberry and Palm Pre
With this app, you can listen to the New York Philharmonic's weekly radio broadcast, hosted by Alec Baldwin, and also access podcasts, videos and event information.
Use with: Android, iPhone, iPad and Windows Phone
Find listings of shows on Broadway (and off) for which you can buy discounted tickets at TKTS—there's real-time info on what's available at the three ticket-agency booths.
Grade Pending
Use with: iPhone, iPad, iPod Touch
Grade Pending is similar to the NYC Health Ratings app in that it provides graded restaurant results for users, but this app takes it a step further, showing eateries on a map with color-coded dots that reveal their rating—green for good, red for…not so good. You can also search by restaurant name, street or cuisine type and bookmark your favorite dining spots. There's even detailed information for restaurants including walking directions, phone numbers and weekly inspection result updates for the app.
Use with: Android and iPhone, iPad, iPod Touch
This app gives you City government-related info, like alternate-side parking updates. There is a host of other official City apps, including NYC Events and NYC Stuff Exchange.
NYC Health Ratings
Use with: Android
The NYC Health Ratings app provides restaurant health inspection results for 24,000 establishments throughout New York City. This app is also integrated with FourSquare, so you can easily check in and share restaurant ratings with friends.
NYC Tip
Use with: iPhone, iPad, iPod touch
This simple app allows users to calculate the tip for meals or services and includes standard tipping percentages.
Red Rover
Use with: iPhone, iPad, iPod touch
A social events tool, Red Rover allows parents to discover great activities for kids and to invite their friends to participate. The app allows users to share photos, make plans and tell fellow parents where they are (to make playdates on the fly). Note: it even includes a feature that highlights clean public restrooms.
Refill My MetroCard!
Use with: Android
Do you have a hard time figuring out how much money to add to your MetroCard (and want to avoid the $1 card-replacement fee)? This app will help you come up with an exact amount to add, so you don't have a leftover balance after the MTA's 5% bonus. It also works with no Internet connection, so you can use it underground.
See Something, Send Something
Use with: Android and iPhone and iPad
Have you seen something suspicious but weren't sure how to report it? Use New York State's new app, See Something, Send Something, to alert authorities to a potential threat. For more info, visit ny.gov.
Use with: iPhone, iPad, iPod Touch
When nature calls, you'll be glad you have this Charmin-backed app. Pinpoint your exact location with the press of a button—or you can enter an address, intersection or zip code—and find the nearest public restrooms. Users can even see which bathrooms are currently open and which have changing tables, as well as browse ratings to find the cleanest facilities.
Spot Hero
Use with: Android and iPhone, iPad, iPod Touch
Find and book parking spots in garages with this handy app.
Use with: Android and iPhone, iPad, iPod Touch
Conveniently consolidate your trip plans and store them in your pocket (or wherever you keep your phone). This app allows users to organize everything from hotel and restaurant reservations to flights, meetings and even museum trips.


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PRICE-Flora Helen Duncan Kessler, age 57, passed away Dec. 2, 2010 at Utah Valley Regional Medical Center in Provo after a four year battle with a heart condition.
She was born in Price, Utah on Aug. 1, 1953 to Floyd H.and Flora Meyer Duncan.
On Jan. 11, 1983, she married Lloyd O. Kessler in South Jordan, Utah.
Helen loved collecting just about anything that she thought was collectible. She enjoyed treasure hunting and her philosophy was that she never found anything that she couldn't use. Eventually her passion turned into a full time job, so she decided to open Helen's Things and Stuff in Price. Her greatest love in life was her grandchildren and she was always taking them on new adventures. Whether it was riding 4-wheelers in town or letting the kids drive in the mountains, no one could ever predict what her next adventure would be or where it would take them.
Helen centered her life around her family and she felt the best way to enjoy life was to share it with those she loved. She was always willing to help anyone in need and she'll be missed by all who knew and loved her.
She is survived by her husband, Lloyd Kessler, Price; her children, Michelle Tappan, Price, Christi (Kareem) Hopkins, Wellington, Vance (Angie) Turner, Price, Lloyd (Dolly) Kessler, Price, Keri (Rick) Miller, Ririe, Idaho, Teri (Danny) Barney, Vernal, Mindy (Darrin) Crabtree, Helper; Robert (Melanie) Kessler, Magna, siblings, Floyd (Berlynn) Duncan, South Jordan, Chester (Paula) Duncan, Kearns, Penny (George) Cooke, Compton, Ark., Ray Duncan and Alan Stethenfen, Salt Lake City, Frank Duncan and Larry Holden, West Jordan; and her loving grandchildren.
She was preceded in death by her parents and brother, Rick Duncan.
Funeral service, Tuesday, Dec.7, 2010, 1 p.m., Mitchell Funeral Home (233 East Main Street) Price. Family will be at Mitchell's Tuesday one hour prior to service. Interment, Cliffview Cemetery, Price. Friends are welcome to share memories of Helen at www.mitchellfuneralhome.net


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MIDWAY-LaVer Nielsen, age 92, passed away, Nov. 12, 2009, at her daughters home in Salt Lake City. Born July 1, 1917 to Edith Osborn and Calvin C. Jensen in Ferron, Utah. Married Ivan Nielsen Oct. 3, 1936, later solemnized in the Manti Temple.
Mom was a special person and a hard worker. She always had a beautiful garden. She sewed many clothes and dance costumes for her four daughters when they were growing up. She made more than 100 beautiful quilts, many table cloths, and she made the best pies ever. She served in various positions in the church. She loved the babies, her 22 grandchildren, 46 great-grands and two great-great-grands. Mom was a very caring and a charitable person. She worked at Ferron Merc., and the Post Office for years. Throughout her life she lived in Clawson, Ferron, Mapleton and Midway.
Survived by her daughters, Helen Griswold, Ronda (Ray) Hult, Susan (Jim) Young, Rebecca (Marv) Johnson and sister Kenna Prestwich; and many nieces and nephews. She is preceded in death by her husband; parents; brothers Max, Don, and Coy; one grandson, Jeff.
Funeral services will be held Sat., Nov. 21, 2009, 11 a.m., at the Midway First Ward, 250 E. 200 S., Midway, Utah. Friends may call one hour prior to the services at the church, and Friday evening from 6-8 p.m. at the Olpin-Hoopes Funeral Home, 288 North Main, Heber City, Utah. Interment will follow the services in the Midway Cemetery. Condolences may be sent online at www.olpinhoopes.com (click on "Obituaries and Guest book", then click on the name, and sign guestbook.)


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Who To Keep An Eye On: Saints at Falcons
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posted Nov 20 2013 8:41AM
The Who Dat Nation roasted some Falcon to open the season, and fans are salivating for some leftovers this week. While the Black & Gold have played fairly consistently and are one of the top teams in the NFL at 8-2, Atlanta hasn't been able to pull out of the tailspin that started in the season opener in the Superdome.
The Saints know all too well though that even though the Falcons are just 2-8 on the year, they would relish nothing more than to beat their division rival. I expect the outcome to be more like the Saints/Cowboys game then the Saints/Niners match-up though.
Prediction: Saints 38 - Falcons 20
Now here's who to watch:
RB Mark Ingram
Since returning to the lineup, Ingram has been putting up solid numbers. In the last 2 games he has rushed for 170 yards, for an average of 8.5 yards per carry. I would have liked to see him get more touches against San Fran, where he got just 6 carries.
The Falcons defense has been gashed by the run all year and is giving up a whopping 133 yards per game to opponents. This would be a great game to give Ingram a truckload of carries to keep boosting his confidence.
WR Marcus Colston
Big congratulations to the Quiet Storm for becoming the franchises' all time leader in yards receiving. It's also great to see him finally putting up Colston-esque numbers in the last 2 weeks, with a total of 12 catches for 187 yards and a score.
In his career, the receiver has torched the ATL for 944 yards and 7 TDs. With Dr. Brees reporting for surgery Thursday night against a failing Falcons secondary, Colston could end up with his 2nd triple-digit receiving yards total of the season.
OLB Junior Galette
Galette has racked up 3 sacks in the last 4 weeks and looks to feast on some Falcon this week. Besides have a turrrrable defense, Atlanta's offensive line has also failed their franchise QB Matt Ryan. The Saints sacked Matty Crushed Ice 3 times in the first meeting of the year and has been taken down a total of 19 times this
season. The Falcons will likely double and triple team Cam Jordan so look for Galette to bring the pain in the Georgia Dome.
TE Tony Gonzlez
While he's been banged up and missing practice this week, this guy has been a pain in the rear for the Saints ever since signing with the Falcons in 2009. He's scored 6 touchdowns against the Black & Gold to go along with 60 receptions for 708 yards.
Yes, he may be close to 100 years old and fighting through injury, but Gonzalez is still someone you have to keep close tabs on. With no Julio Jones in the lineup for Atlanta, and QB Matty Ice running for his life, the future Hall of Fame tight end is a dependable security blanket.
DE Osi Umenyiora
Osi has played in 6 games against the Saints and has managed to sack the QB 4 times. He has been one of the only bright spots on their defense this year and surprisingly still has some juice left in the tank at 32 years old.
Umenyiora has tallied 6.5 sacks this season and will draw much attention from the Saints O-line. He was held to just one tackle in the season opener, but will the Black & gold be able to hold him at bay again?
RB Antone Smith
You may be saying who? Well I was too watching last week's game against the Bucs when Smith ripped off 88 yards and a score on just 2 carries. He should earn an increased workload this week, especially since Steven Jackson just isn't the guy he used to be. Jackson has turned out to be one of the worst free agent signings in 2013.
Smith is 28 years old and went undrafted in 2009 coming out of Florida State. He has just 3 career carries in the NFL, but with the Falcons in desperation mode they could turn to Smith to provide any kind of spark on offense since nothing else has been working.
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By PATSY STODDARDEditor
The Emery County Economic Development Council is busy making plans for their first economic summit. The summit will be held on Sept. 14 at the Museum of the San Rafael and the county office building. PacifiCorp is the major sponsor of the summit. Information about the summit is being sent out to each business in the county and will be distributed within the week.
Deb Dull from PacifiCorp said the economic summit is a wonderful opportunity and she suggested gleaning ideas from previous summits. She described the planned breakout sessions as appealing to various interests. She said a lot of effort has been put forth so far in developing the summit and she looks forward to a successful summit. Dull was also approved by the economic council as an advisory member.
Bob King who works out of the Salt Lake office and is the Vice President of Innerwest Mining will be the morning motivational speaker.
Breakout sessions will include information on agriculture, recreation and customer service. Topics include: new markets for agriculture products, making silk purses from sow's ears. People and resources to help make your dreams come true. Is there money to be made in your backyard? Keys to success-resources and partnerships. Totally awesome customer service. Expanding our opportunities.
Jon Huntsman Jr., republican candidate for governor will give the keynote address after lunch.
The economic development council is still looking for sponsors for the event and participation by local business people. There will be a session where local business people can make presentations on goals, complaints, accomplishments or any area of concern for local business people.
The council discussed ways to promote the summit and Linda Jewkes suggested someone attend all of the city council meetings in the county and present the summit to them and invite and encourage all councils to attend. The summit hopes to attract not only business people, but all interested individuals in the county. Marc Stilson, chairman of the council said that was an excellent idea and he would see to it that all of the cities are notified and receive the pamphlet that has been prepared.
The republican party chairman, Bill Dellos is hoping to attract the candidates for office for a meet the candidate meeting the evening of the summit since Huntsman will be in the county for the summit. Dellos will work on contacting the candidates to see if something can be arranged. The economic development council said this was OK with them, but the council is in no way politically affiliated with any party.
The council also discussed an economic summit in Sevier County the end of August and the rural summit on Aug. 12-13 in Cedar City. It was determined that two people from the economic council be designated to go the rural summit at the expense of the economic development council.
In other business, Stilson introduced the people involved in working and developing an informational booklet to promote Emery County. Skyler Tanner, Chandler Tanner, Shawna Rogers and Mandi Weihing are working on the recruitment booklet. When completed this booklet will be sent to businesses requesting information about the county as a place to locate their business. Stilson sees the booklet as a real tool to introduce the county to prospective businesses.
Brian Dawes was approved as an advisory member of the council as a representative from education. Dawes is the current principal at Ferron Elementary. He will begin work on educational camps which will be held during the summers to promote education in the county. These camps will be both fun and educational and give the children of the county learning experiences during the summer months.
Delynn Fielding, the Carbon County Economic Development Director, was also in attendance and stressed the need for the citizens of the county to take the survey concerning rural economic development. The survey is a web survey only and can be taken at http://utahreach.org/wingspan/surveys/
The information from the surveys will be prioritized and proposals will be made before the legislature in January as to what types of economic development efforts will be made and funded. Fielding said it is crucial that the county respond and have a voice in this survey. He said 200 responses have been collected so far and very vew of them are from anyone not involved directly in government. Fielding also mentioned a workshop they held in Price where information was presented on how to do business with the federal government. He said it was attended by only 15 people and the majority of them were from Emery County. He said it was a lot of good information. The Kellog Foundation has $8 million available in grants for economic development systems and ideas on how to fund efforts to develop entrepreneurship. The grant applications are due Aug. 13 and Fielding is involving seven counties in Eastern Utah to team up to apply for some of this grant money. Counties include Emery, Carbon, San Juan, Grand, Uintah, Daggett and Duchesne.


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By RICHARD SHAWEmery County Progress publisher
On Wednesday night the Orangeville City council met in a special meeting to address concerns of residents and land owners on Draper Lane concerning the city's request that those people sign quit claim deeds on some of their property that borders the road.
At issue was the fact that some residents felt that the city was trying to take land that didn't belong to them through a series of actions the city has taken. However Mayor Bart Cox explained that some of the citys intentions have been misconstrued.
"The road is what it is," he said. "This is not the first time this kind of thing came up. At one time the city was using private streets to travel on and they oiled them. We had no intention of trying to claim property that we don't use."
The mayor explained that the road, which has been used by the public for a number of years, is a public right of way based on state law, because it has been used as such for at least 10 years.
"The city has no intention of building a new road," he said. "We just want to own what we use."
The council chambers were about three quarters full of people, many of whom had questions about the situation. At some point in time someone had mentioned to some of them that the city wanted a right of way of 60 feet along the road, which would mean property would come from one side or the other or both. One of the questions from the group was what the city did want width wise.
"All we want is what we have been using," said the mayor in response to the inquiry.
However, what the city has been using was not very clear to many who were at the meeting, at least initially.
A complicating factor in the dispute about what the city wanted was also precipitated by one landowner subdividing off one lot to sell it for a home. Some in the city saw this, and realized that if a subdivision was going to be built, according to the zoning code, the road would have to be 60 feet wide.
"What about the subdivision that might go in on the street?" asked Tim Reid, whose family owns some property along the road. "It seemed strange to me that the city came around inquiring about signing over property to them at about the same time the idea of the subdivision was being proposed. If the developer wants to build a subdivision there he should give the land for the road from his side."
The mayor told Reid that the two things had nothing to do with each other and he added that what the city wanted would benefit residents.
"All we were thinking of is that we need to have the land in question because the road is public," said Cox. "And by taking this land off the landowners hands it would lower their tax burden too."
Someone from the audience asked the mayor to explain what the "road is what it is" meant when it came to the width that the city wanted to have.
"It's not just the oiled part of the road," said the mayor. "It's what we use. It includes where we push snow off, any utility lines or buried utilities, things like that."
One of the audience members said that their mother was ready to sign the quit claim deed as set forth by the city, but asked if that would mean the city would never take more of her land. When the city couldn't assure her of that, she refused to sign.
"The city council of today, cannot bind the city into an agreement that would limit other councils in the future," said Craig Smith, the attorney for the city who stood up to explain the laws on roads. "It is against state statute to do that. Today's legislative body cannot make a future body be locked into what they decide."
Smith went on to explain that as far as roads go, streets become streets in different ways.
"Some are dedicated, others are deeded over by private owners," said Smith. "But we do know that if a road has been used by the public for 10 years or more, it becomes public. Once that has happened the only way a road can be let go is for the governing body, in this case the city council, to vacate the road."
After Smith addressed the group and number of questions were posed, particularly one that asked him to define how wide the road would have to be.
"You have very wide streets here in Orangeville," he responded. "The way it looks to me the farthest the street could extend without the city buying property from the owners would be from the present fence on one side to the fence on the other side."
One person in the group said that the city's attempt to get people to sign over their property for the road had created a lot of pressure from neighbors on those who hadn't signed.
"No one has to sign what we proposed," said Cox. "You said something about pressure. Has anyone from the city come to your house after we proposed it once and asked you to sign it again?"
No one said yes to the question and Cox said it was never the intention of the city to "take anyones property."
Smith said all he could see the city wanted was to straighten out the property borders along the road.
"If for some reason the city needs a larger road there, then they could use eminent domain to obtain that land," stated Smith. "In this way the city is trying to make the road a dedicated road by dealing with each landowner on a one to one basis."
The mayor pointed out that at the next city council meeting the council would be happy to deal with each land owner and asked those that were interested to get on the agenda to do so.