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FOK: He who signs the cheques makes the rules
Robin Brownlee
August 28 2009 11:17AM
As much of a surprise as all this talk about the Edmonton Oilers having an interest in Mike Comrie should be, it isn't if you allow for the likelihood that owner Daryl Katz has been influencing decisions on the hockey operations side of the business since he took ownership of the team.
That the Oilers are even remotely considering signing Comrie, a UFA, just six seasons after a bitter split with the team and a falling out with then-GM Kevin Lowe, tells me Katz has his fingerprints all over this one.
Katz and Bill Comrie, Mike's dad, are friends. There's a relationship and a loyalty at play here, and every intuitive bone in my body leads me to believe that relationship trumps anything that has happened in the past and is what's driving the possibility Comrie could return. Katz signs the cheques. Katz makes the rules. Katz wants Comrie.
It doesn't take a vast intellect to conclude Katz's desire to at least take a look at Comrie has been made clear to Lowe, now the president of hockey operations, and GM Steve Tambellini. I'm guessing neither one of them has said, "Forget it, boss. Leave the hockey decisions to us."
If you look at some of the decisions made since Katz took ownership of the team, it's reasonable to conclude there's every possibility the FOK Era -- Friends Of Katz -- might set a new standard for favours and nepotism by a franchise that has a history of both.
Not that that's necessarily, ahem, a bad thing...
Who calls the shots?
This interest in a do-over with Comrie as the hometown-boy-made-good, despite what happened in 2003 and despite the obvious fact the last thing the Oilers need right now is another small forward on the roster, doesn't add up — I listed them here at ON Aug 19 — if you take Katz out of the mix.
The way things went down with Comrie and agent Ritch Winter back then, notably Lowe's 11th hour request for $2.5 million that queered a trade with the Anaheim Ducks, Mike couldn't get out of town fast enough. And Oilers fans, almost in unison, said "Good riddance. Get lost. Bugger off."
Now, I don't know if Comrie has as much interest in the Oilers as they have in him because I haven't asked him and Winter isn't saying, offering only a "No comment" when I spoke with him briefly on Thursday.
Maybe they're just playing footsy with Katz and the idea until a better offer comes along. Then again, maybe Comrie, because of the relationship between his family and Katz, really is willing to wipe the slate clean and play here. I'd be lying if I told you I knew.
The way I see it
From where I sit, there's already been a handful of hockey operations decisions orchestrated or influenced by Katz.
-- I think the decision to take Lowe out of the spotlight and the daily firing line, while keeping him on the company payroll by making him president of operations, was done, at least in part, as a favour to a friend.
-- I think that Kelly Buchberger, who has a summer home not far from Katz on a lake outside Edmonton, was promoted to Craig MacTavish's coaching staff, and later survived the purge of MacTavish, Charlie Huddy and Billy Moores, as a favour to a friend.
Of course, the fact MacTavish and the Oilers parted ways might seem to fly in the face of that logic, seeing as MacT and Katz are tight, but I don't think MacTavish would've been shown the door had he voiced any real desire to stay on. Even at the time of the announcement MacTavish was finished here, there was the perception this was a resignation framed as a firing.
-- Then, there was the Oilers offering Georges Laraque a four-year contract worth $6 million last summer. This, just a few seasons removed from having MacTavish essentially run Laraque out of town. Laraque and Katz, who works out at a gym partially owned by Big Georges, are friends.
Now, Comrie.
From a PR point of view, there could be some mileage in welcoming Comrie back. A do-over might soften the memory of the hard-line Lowe took with Comrie the first time around. See, Mike's back. Edmonton is player-friendly.
How it plays out
Given the stated need by Tambellini at the end of last season to make the roster grittier and tougher to play against, I can't see, from a hockey-ops point of view, how he or Lowe could possibly be on board with a move to add Comrie to the mix. I'd love to jab both of them in the butt with a syringe of truth serum right now.
How does adding Comrie, even at a reasonable salary of, say, $1.5 million, and putting aside his diminishing points totals in recent seasons, address the needs of a roster that includes Sam Gagner, Andrew Cogliano, Robert Nilsson and Patrick O'Sullivan and has missed the playoffs in three straight seasons?
It doesn't. But FOK trumps that. If the boss is the one who is pulling the strings, if the guy who signs the cheques is driving the bus, then this isn't a hockey decision, it's just another favour to a friend.
-- Listen to Robin Brownlee every Thursday from 4 to 6 p.m. on Just A Game with Jason Gregor on Team 1260.
I would hope that Katz, Lowe, and Tambellini have ongoing discussions about the state of the team and what the desires/needs are for personnel, and that Lowe and Tambi are forthright in their opinions with the boss about what is required. You know, like a plan?
August 28 2009, 11:29AM
Great article, Robin. Equal parts informative and deeply frightening.
This summer gets weirder and weirder...more coaches and more small forwards, exactly what we need
FOK thinking is a scary thought, maybe with moves (insert "speculated") like this one we may see the "no one wants to play in Edmonton" stuff subside. BUT, if we ever get into a position where we have to replace Lowe, Tambo or any other exec...I shiver at the thought. Would any potential GM worth a nickel want to work for a guy like DK?
*Tears up Resume/Job Application for future Oilers GM job posting* That'll show 'em!
August 28 2009, 11:31AM
Harsh, but very true RB.
Unless there's a 'hole' opening up somewhere that's been held under wraps, the whole situation is Senceless
Your last paragraph make it sound like it is a bad thing.
August 28 2009, 11:35AM
If we brought back Comrie, I'd have to question the sanity of the Oilers management.
Mr.K wrote:
Your last paragraph make it sound like it is a bad thing.
It is.
Jonathan Willis wrote:
Great article, Robin. Equal parts informative and deeply frightening.
uh... yeah...
all together now: "here we go again!"
Wow, Wanye must have have returned some non-persible items back to SOF to pay Robin for another article.
Robin, do you think this would have any impact on players coming back to Edmonton or thinking about Edmonton as a destination (not that the team has any cap space anyway)?
Personally, from what I have heard, some of the players did not get along with the coach or management about starting back three years ago. Not that I am deeply conected but the source was fairly reliable. I have this feeling that if Comrie is signed the organization must be ok with sending a contract or two to the AHL. But Comrie does not add anthing to the team except maybe good PR for the NHLPA.
@ dyckster: No ,it is not this is Katz's team ,he can get somewhat involved in the team day to day basis.
History is not kind to teams with meddling owners. Al Davis is a good example. Do you believe that the decision to sign Khabi to the contract he got was a Katz decision? After the events of the night before, I sometimes wonder that the Khabi signing that took place only a couple of hours into free agency on July 1 was perhaps a way by Oilers management to lure Heatley to decide to come here. Perhaps by showing him that we had the 'big name franchise goalie' to become a contender the management thought he would change his mind. The fact that he was only receiving mostly 1 year offers by other teams but we gave him 4 years right away seemed strange. The lack of a big name goalie seemed to influence Hossa in not signing here last year. I know we needed a goalie of course, but do you think there is something to that theory or am I just too far up on the grass knoll lol?
i for one would find it very hard to cheer for the oil. not to mention id still boo comrie everytime he touched the puck. if you're gonna bring in a smaller offensive guy, bring back sykora. he scores goals and like it here! FOK this comrie nonsense. haha.
"If the boss is the one who is pulling the strings, if the guy who signs the cheques is driving the bus, then this isn't a hockey decision, it's just another favour to a friend."
Yeah. I hate to say it, but this isn't much different from any other privately owned business out there. But you can bet that if this is indeed a favour, some considerable payback is part of the package.
Katz is a consumate game player, the kind of guy that doesn't do anything without a reason. Bill Comrie is connected up the yinyang in this town. He could bash open some doors as far as the new arena is concerned, which in my opinion is Katz' end-game.
August 28 2009, 11:43AM
Kieso wrote:
Wow, Wanye must have have returned some non-persible items back to SOF to pay Robin for another article. Robin, do you think this would have any impact on players coming back to Edmonton or thinking about Edmonton as a destination (not that the team has any cap space anyway)?
Wanye gave 35 litres of blood at the downtown Red Cross last night to make this happen.
It wouldn't have a negative impact. Putting past disputes aside and welcoming back a player like Comrie could certainly be spun as showing this is an organization that's looking ahead instead of wallowing in the past.
August 28 2009, 11:44AM
~What's the worst that could happen when owners make on-ice decisions?~
This will be a frightening end to a frustrating summer
Does this mean it's Sept. now? Are you writing from a time machine, RB?
Anyone who didn't think the single-owner formula would bring back a measure of favouritism was deluding themselves. Aside from Bucky staying on over Chuddy, I haven't minded any of the Katz era decision-making. If we find out he is using his influence over Tambo in player personnel decisions, that would be a serious red flag. But since it hasn't happened yet, and we don't know what's going on inside OilHQ, I don't think it's time to worry yet.
I really hope this franchise doesn't become like the Islanders.
I think we're FOKed if we pick up Comrie again. I don't see how he really helps this team, other than perhaps a slight image boost. And really, it does nothing about the image of the fans, who I think could be just as much to blame for players (allegedly) not wanting to come here. Montreal brought back public enemy #1 (Patrice Brisebois) a couple of years ago, and I don't think anyone in the hockey world was fooled into thinking their fans no longer eat their own.
Anyways, it irks me a bit that the organization can find $1.3M to pay a guy like Comrie who I wouldn't consider as an upgrade on any single player in our top six (Penner, O'Sullivan, Hemsky, Horcoff, Gagner, Cogliano, in my opinion and in no specific order) nor useful in our bottom six, however they can't find (roughly) that same cash to sign Blair Betts, who would solidify our PK, give us another shutdown forward, and be a decent faceoff man.
Honestly, when we were going after Hossa and Jagr, I first wondered how much influence Katz had on this team. I would tend to believe that he does try and push for certain players. Comrie in Edmonton doesn't really make sense, to me. He just doesn't fit in.
All I can think about with all this Comrie talk is how that Anaheim deal that Lowe scuttled at the last minute was for Corey Perry and a first, whereas the deal he accepted with Philadelphia was Woywitka and a first.
August 28 2009, 11:46AM
Just another example of how (almost) nothing has made sense over the past 10 years. Don't you think there is a reason 29 other teams haven't signed Comrie on August 28. Tambo said this team would be "tougher to play against". I thought he was going for more size not more "ankle biters"!!
Robin Brownlee wrote:
Kieso wrote: Wanye gave 35 litres of blood at the downtown Red Cross last night to make this happen.
Was it pre-bagged?
Mr.K wrote:
No ,it is not this is Katz's team ,he can get somewhat involved in the team day to day basis.
IMO, yes it is, I firmly believe (unless Katz has a professional hockey background I'm not aware of), on ice decisions should be left 100% to the experts (those who have played the game). Hockey is not a sport you can manage without some knowledge of it's intricacies. Should he have input with respect to the GENERAL (salaries, contracts, minor team affiliations) direction of the team...absolutely. But decisons regarding players, coaches, trainers, stick boys, zamboni drivers et al, should be left to those in the hockey know.
August 28 2009, 11:47AM
To bad players like Crosby or Ovechkin weren't FOK :-(
@ Pouzar: You know that ,not every one is AL Davis .There is alot of owners who are in the teams every day business.I bet you the owner of the Detroit Red wings does make some management decisions as well.
We usually hear the bad one alot more.This is a business like any other business.
Get the fact like the other poster said Katz might do thing so his father Bill can fork in some money for the new Arena.
The Bulin Wall ,yah maybe but what can we do ,we needed a good goalie.
Robin Brownlee wrote: It wouldn't have a negative impact. Putting past disputes aside and welcoming back a player like Comrie could certainly be spun as showing this is an organization that's looking ahead instead of wallowing in the past.
Well I am not sure what is better wallowing in the past or wallowing in 10th place.
@ Brian P:
Woywitka was a great pickup. What's a woywitka?
August 28 2009, 11:50AM
Haha - This should get the Oil faithful going wild (especially if the trend continues). Remember how pumped everyone was about Katz a few short months ago? Watch the tied quickly turn if the nepotism (or at least the perception of it) continues.
Also, I'd bet heavily that ownership has been guiding (some) hockey decisions well before Katz came around (the Comrie situation included) - yet all the heat seems to fall one place.
@ dyckster: He does still have the right to do it.This is his business all owners want to win.They do pay for the checks at the end of the day.
I do not believe he makes all the decision on the team but few.
We don't know if Comrie's signing. If he is signed, we don't know if it's Katz's influence that got him signed. We don't know if this is perhaps a crafty and devious plan and there is something else in the works.
The only thing I DO know is that it's a sunny Friday afternoon, the forecast is "drunk", and I'm going to covering my eyes and ears, while yelling, "LALALALALALALA" thusly sheltering myself from all negative news until at least Monday.
August 28 2009, 11:55AM
Robin Brownlee wrote:
Wanye gave 35 litres of blood at the downtown Red Cross last night to make this happen.
danjo1 wrote:
Was it pre-bagged?
Good question; RB didn't specify it was Wanye's blood. What else has Wanye been collecting these days in the River Valley?
Mr.K wrote:
He does still have the right to do it.
By rights, I guess he does, but if he desires some improved on ice success he should keep his nose out of it.
Perhaps he could develop a drug that can increase the height of the Oiler on ice midgets? A full body Viagra if you will.
In other words, stick to what you know.
August 28 2009, 12:00PM
First Nylander comes out to say that Edmonton is a place he would like to play... now Comrie might be considering signing here... Is Pronger next on the train to return to Edmonton? With this renewed interest in the oilers, maybe Heatley will jump on the bandwagon and sign here anyway? Maybe.
@ dyckster: I disagree but let's just leave it has that.
I still believe that this is a rumor.
August 28 2009, 12:02PM
Jonathan Willis wrote:
Great article, Robin. Equal parts informative and deeply frightening.
Next up:
-Changing the jerseys to black & silver -Sign the guy with the strongest arm
August 28 2009, 12:03PM
Robin Brownlee wrote:
Wanye gave 35 litres of blood at the downtown Red Cross last night to make this happen.
Whoa,you get paid in blood? Cool.
As for Comrie, I wanted size and grit to start the offseason, but since nothing has happened I just want some sort of change. I say take a flyer on him, a 1 year cheap deal works for me.
Mr.K wrote:
@ Pouzar: You know that ,not every one is AL Davis .There is alot of owners who are in the teams every day business.I bet you the owner of the Detroit Red wings does make some management decisions as well. We usually hear the bad one alot more.This is a business like any other business. Get the fact like the other poster said Katz might do thing so his father Bill can fork in some money for the new Arena. The Bulin Wall ,yah maybe but what can we do ,we needed a good goalie.
Fair point, Davis is the extreme no doubt. But if signing Comrie is more about politics than anything else, if Comrie is unhappy with his icetime or something with the team, does he complain to the coaches or does he go to dad and Daryl lol?
Would it really be such a bad thing to bring him back? Would he qualify as a second line player? i would much rather have too many second line players, than in years past when we had too many third and forth line pluggers.
Mr.K wrote:
I still believe that this is a rumor.
What! Wanye Gretz is a lot of things (nymphomaniac, unemployed, future TSN Hockey Analyst, cross dresser, Mike Comrie wannabe....) but a rumor monger he is not! :)
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August 28 2009, 12:11PM
freeze wrote:
*sits and waits for batman67 to tell Brownlee to "shut up"*
Silence has been bought before. It'll be bought again.
@ Pouzar: I bet he goes to the coaches,he might have matured in a couple of years.
Agin you need to remember all Owners do have say in what goes on with their teams in a daily basis.You just do not hear it as often as you do here.
Errhoff has been traded from SJS to Van for almost nothing. Seems like only time before healtley is a shark
August 28 2009, 12:13PM
Robin Brownlee wrote:
freeze wrote: *sits and waits for batman67 to tell Brownlee to "shut up"* Silence has been bought before. It'll be bought again.
I got $3.62 left in my paypal account that says Brownlee keeps going. :D
August 28 2009, 12:14PM
There's no question, this raises a lot of red flags. As did the bizarre and infamous text message. There's also no question that DK is wrapping himself up in the warm, comfy fabric of the past, much in the same way that George Costanza loved to be ensconced in velvet. That said (while completely acknowledging the logic of Robin's points), I think this deal has the *potential* to be more positive for the organization as a whole, even if it isn't, necessarily, the most obvious way to improve the on-ice product. It really depends on how much the little guy has left in his tank, and what dead weight gets jettisoned to fit him in the lineup.
Of course, if it DOES work, then it could establish a pattern of potentially even more reckless acts of interference from Katz, so...
I dunno... I'm definitely torn between reason and sentiment here, and I think reason's just gone outside to have a smoke.
The one thing that I really hate about this is, again, that it's been leaked out before it's finalized one way or the other. If he doesn't sign, I don't think any of us need an infinite supply of "COMRIE REJECTS OIL TWICE!" articles. Because, whether or not that's how it goes down, that's what we'll hear, ad nauseum.
August 28 2009, 12:15PM
@ freeze: Sorry bud ,it is just you are making a big deal out of a small little rumor.
August 28 2009, 12:17PM
Prop Jay wrote:
Errhoff has been traded from SJS to Van for almost nothing. Seems like only time before healtley is a shark
cant find that anywhere.. link?
Batman 67 wrote:
@ freeze: Sorry bud ,it is just you are making a big deal out of a small little rumor.
who is? if it is no big deal, why are you telling people to shut up? there are better ways to calm people down. this is an interesting development and there nothing else going on to talk about.
I would like to believe, because of the vodka's and koolaid I've been pounding back, that if this rumour comes true, it is a precurser to more awesome trades to come that all fit in an awesome master plan concocted by our brilliant management team. *pours another vodka/ koolaid*


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While the Flames shipped out Jarome Iginla and Jay Bouwmeester and replaced them with prospects that Barry Fraser wouldn't draft, the Oilers skate into the Saddledome ready to show Flames fans what six years of sucking can do for you.
The Flames haven't won a playoff series since 2004, the Oilers have won three since then, and in 24 days the Phlegms will be out of the playoffs for the 4th straight year. Make no mistake the last seven years have been brutal for Oilers fans, but at least they have something to show for their loyalty. The Oilers seven-year drought produced Taylor Hall, Jordan Eberle, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Nail Yakupov, Magnus Paajarvi and Sam Gagner.
The Flames' plunge into suckville has garnered them first rounders like: Mikael Backlund (softer than oleo), Greg Nemisz (4th liner in AHL), Tim Erixon (oops, he wouldn't sign in your dump of a city), _______ (didn't have 1st or 2nd round pick when missing 2010 playoffs), Sven Baertschi (solid potential 2nd liner) and Mark Jankowski (say it slowly, Stanstead College in Quebec).
Rob Schremp and Marc Pouliot had a brighter future.
Most Oilers fans won't poke that much fun at Calgary, okay one might in a few paragraphs, mainly because Edmontonians doesn't possess the inferiority complex that exists in Calgary. Oiler fans won't need to say, "At least we finished higher in the standings than you," which was the rallying cry in Calgary the last three years.
Think about that for a second.
Your team never made the playoffs, in fact they "Choked" every year in the final ten games. For the past three years, the Flames were close to the playoffs with ten games to go, and in those combined 30 games, you won a paltry 12. You averaged 4 wins in the final 10 games of the season in your annual push-to-the-playoffs-only-to-fail-and-not-get-a-top-ten-pick.
The only thing more inept than Steve Tambellini's summer free agent signings, is the Flames management in February and March and the Flames play on the ice in March and April.
Which leads us to tonight...
The Oilers and their fans head into this game knowing they will win, which is exactly how the Flames and their fans have felt the last three years. It won't be much of a battle, considering the Flames most effective forward these days is Brian McGrattan.
The Flames got a better return for Joe Piskula than they have for Jarome Iginla and Jay Bouwmeester. At least McGrattan is on your team and contributing. Top-notch GMing by Feaster and company.
- Hall/Nugent-Hopkins/Eberle
- Paajarvi/Gagner/Hemsky
- Jones/Horcoff/Yakupov
- Brown/Smyth/Petrell
- Smid/Petry
- N.Schultz/J.Schultz
- Whitney/Potter
- Dubnyk
The Flames will counter with a lineup that would battle stage an epic battle with the 2010 Oilers:
GAME DAY PREDICTION: Oilers win their 5th straight with an easy 4-2 win. The Oilers top line has combined for 19 points in the last four games and they will register six tonight.
OBVIOUS GAME DAY PREDICTION: Many in Calgary will claim, "Awesome deal, getting something (5th rounder) for Blake Comeau." Get used to saying this Flames fans, as you enter into the phase where you think every draft pick will pan out eventually.
NOT-SO-OBVIOUS GAME DAY PREDICTION: After he admitted Monday night that he hadn't been, "intellectually honest about his team," Jay Feaster announces during the 2nd period intermission that the Flames will indeed be a playoff contender next year. "Mikka Kiprusoff begged me not to trade him today. He's committed to winning and we will sign him to an extension in the summer.
"Also, now that Jarome Iginla, who secretly always preferred his hometown over Calgary, is gone our core guys will flourish. Want to wager on where we finish relative to Edmonton next year? I'll tell you very honestly. I'm getting a little sour. How many teams . . . every year, for the last 10 years, five years, eight years, have finished in the bottom five, bottom seven, bottom 10? They've had a pick anywhere from No. 1 to No. 10 year after year after year after year, and they still wander in the desert. And they're no closer to getting out than they were 10 years ago. We are still positioned better than the Oilers," screams Feaster.
Good times...
***UPDATE...Turns out the NSOGDB wasn't that far off... An actual quote from Jay Feaster today..."Murray Edwards (Flames majority owner) told me last evening that he expects us to be in the playoffs next year." You can't make this up. Wow, Edwards is delusional if he believes that.
Jeanshorts runs the Oilersnation twitter and when he heard I was writing this GDB he begged me to let him write a quite blurb on behalf of all Oilers fans... so here goes...
Oh, Calgary...
Where do we even begin?
You're like the Springfield Tire Yard of the NHL; You're ugly, can be smelled in 46 states (and 10 provinces) and you're nothing but a humungous pile of burning rubble at this point.
If this is what Jay Fester considers "retooling" then dear god DO NOT let him near your car. It'd be like Pimp My Ride if instead of putting TV's and a new engine in they blew the car up and told you to "never speak of this again!"
Although, it's not like we should really be surprised that Feaster buttfumbled BOTH the Iginla and Bouwmeester trades. We've all seen Spaceballs; it's only a matter of time until he accidentally locks himself in a limousine and eats himself to death.
But hey, it's not all no-name prospects and crying into your cousins breasts in Cowtown. I mean, at least your leading goal scorer isn't former Oiler 4th liner Curtis Glencross.
And it's not like you're relying on a guy who hasn't played an NHL game in 4 years and only has 11 career wins to be your number one goalie next season.
Or that your hot-shot first round pick flamed out (PUN INTENDED) with only one assist in his 10-game stint.
Or that you traded away two of your marquee players and somehow wound up with an even worse prospect pool than you started with, which was already one of the worst in the league.
Actually, basically all that's left is for Murray Edwards to sign Feaster to a five year extension and you'll be set!
You know what, this is typical Calgary. First you steal all our business headquarters and now you have the audacity to steal the title of "Most Comically Inept Run Team In The National Hockey League"? THIS IS WHY WE CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS!
Unfortunately Calgary looks like they'll be rewarded for this absolute atrocity of a season with a top-three pick. The good thing is that with their recent draft history the nation of Bosnia will be able to celebrate their country's first ever draft pick as the Flames select their top high school player Ahmed Mujo (56GP-0G-0A).
We fully believe in Karma and things coming full circle. Flames fans, and management, have been ripping the Oilers futility hard for the last 4 years. I hope you brought a flashlight, sleeping bag and foamy Calgary, because the basement is dark, damp and it smells like Jerry Sandusky's rec room. Payback's a bitch and this one's going to hurt. A lot.
Tell your hot cousin I said what's up.
"They're ALL my hot cousin!" - Guy from Calgary
Love, Oilersnation
Jabba the Fister wandering in the desert. Looks good on him.
Here come the Oilers first season series win against the flames in a long time. Nice to have front row seats to thier demise. Like Gregor said, the problem with the Flames is they base thier suckcess on how they finish compared to us. We base our success on how we do compared to the rest of the league. While we were busy sucking you guys managed to just barely ice a better product but were happy with that. While you guys are sucking for the next decade, promise we will let you come to Edmonton and have a peek at what Lord Stanley looks like. And don't worry Flame boys, we been keeping the 30th place seat nice and warm for you. Sit back and get comfortable in it, looks like you are going to be there a long time.
Damn. This sucks. Flames win 3-0 as Joey Mac gets the shutout. Right? Right.
I'm an oilers fan and I have to say I'm ashamed of how bad this smack talk is. When it comes to these flames GDB's Wanye's the man. Gregor is a professional though, so I guess he can't go off the rails.
I don't know if anyone has said this yet, but Calgary is in really bad shape. Besides having a terrible NHL team, they have almost no good prospects.
April 03 2013, 03:02PM
Rob Schneider said it best..."we suck again"
Go Oil, beat us like a rented mule.
LOL 2010 Oilers!! What a brutal lineup that was.
April 03 2013, 03:08PM
I don't know if anyone has said this yet, but Calgary is in really bad shape. Besides having a terrible NHL team, they have almost no good prospects.
April 03 2013, 03:11PM
HA! well played JS. i can just picture feaster sitting alone at his home going to town on a family pack from KFC....shirtless. suck it flames!
Re: NSOGDP, apparently he couldn't wait until the second intermission, TSN is indicating that Feaster is already saying that ownership is giving him his marching orders to make the playoffs next year.
As a thoroughly frustrated fan that has been watching an incompetent GM wander aimlessly for the last few years this is shaping up to be the start of some damn fine entertainment to see another team go through something equally embarrassing.
Nathan Mckinnon will look good in Calgary red. Perhaps next year they can suck enough to get Sam Rheinhart. They'll be 4 years behind the Oilers rebuild but in the years to come it will be nice to see all that top level talent in one place. Alberta. That is the one positive I see for both us and Calgary. The quality of the talent in the next few years will be awesome. Imagine being Vancouver? I'd hate to be their fanbase in the next few years.Always the bridesmaid never the bride.
And yeah Calgary you officially suck. Eat Buffalo pie and enjoy the cellar. Oilers 6-1 in a crushing win over the hapless Flames. Hall with 4 poinst and Ebs with the trick.
Dear Flame fans: Good luck on the "re-tooling" by the #1 tool in your organization, Uncle Fester. Let us know how that works out for you, won't you? Now, with all those #1 draft picks you have in this year's draft, will we see all of them in a Flames uniform by this October? Or more likely, by 2017?
April 03 2013, 03:13PM
Jeanshorts should win whatever the Oscar equivalent for journalism is.
April 03 2013, 03:13PM
This is a nice change, but it's still unfair, only 48 games you Shamers have to put up with. GL with Seth, hope he doesn't turn into Johnson.
April 03 2013, 03:16PM
"Oiler fans won't need to say, "At least we finished higher in the standings than you," which was the rallying cry in Calgary the last three years."
Seriously? The last three years? The oilers haven't finished above the flames since 2002/2003. I wonder if we'll have to develop the same short term memory oiler fans are notorious for...ugh!
April 03 2013, 03:18PM
Wow.. I know you Oilers types aren't used to having much... errr, anything to talk smack about, but I waited 30 some odd hours for this...
Christ Gregor, I'm harder on the Flames than this... AND I'M A FLAMES FAN!!
Re: NSOGDP, apparently he couldn't wait until the second intermission, TSN is indicating that Feaster is already saying that ownership is giving him his marching orders to make the playoffs next year.
As a thoroughly frustrated fan that has been watching an incompetent GM wander aimlessly for the last few years this is shaping up to be the start of some damn fine entertainment to see another team go through something equally embarrassing.
Source for the Feaster quote?
April 03 2013, 03:22PM
Wow.. I know you Oilers types aren't used to having much... errr, anything to talk smack about, but I waited 30 some odd hours for this...
Christ Gregor, I'm harder on the Flames than this... AND I'M A FLAMES FAN!!
Caved-in to the pressure?
April 03 2013, 03:23PM
In 212 games played vs. the Oil, the Flames are;
Can you guys even get close to .500 before the Flames sort this out? Hahahaha.. I'll take bets on that one.
NSOGDP- Flames ask Oilers if they can just toss all the sticks in at centre ice and pick teams that way, in order to save the fans from watching the Future too soon. Once Glencross puts on a Oil Jersey again , he refuses to take it off after the game, threatening retirement if he has to wear that Flaming C any longer. Seeing That, Kipper agrees to a Trade to Florida.
April 03 2013, 03:26PM
I almost feel bad for the Flames, but then I remember all the crap I have put up with living in this city the last 9 years.
April 03 2013, 03:28PM
Cue the "we'll be able to retool as fast as Ottawa!" cries from Cowtown
Could you imagine Larry McDonald's calling you and talking about how great a place Calgary would be to play if you were a college FA? You'd have to check your call display, put him on hold and Google the bastard to figure out who the hell you were talking to. Goodness fLames...such a poor history, a disappointing recent past and dismal future.
April 03 2013, 03:30PM
BREAKING NEWS: Jarome Iginla trade to the Pittsburgh Penguins... last week
April 03 2013, 03:31PM
The 2013 Flames are the 2007 Oilers.
They dont even know how bad it will get. Heck, Murray Edwards said he expects the Flames to be in the Playoffs next year.
April 03 2013, 03:35PM
AND we don't wear those Ronald McDonald uniforms either! Talk about adding insult to injury.
Buffalo got arguably more for Jason frickin Pominville that Calgary got for Iggy and Jaybo combined. That is the real joke in this. Getting so far below value put the Flames behind 1-2 years in the "retool".
The 2013 Flames are the 2007 Oilers.
They dont even know how bad it will get. Heck, Murray Edwards said he expects the Flames to be in the Playoffs next year.
Exactly... I remember when we were in the EXACT SAME PLACE.
We thought the rebuild would take 1-2 years. We thought Cogliano and Gagner were the answers (read Backlund and Baertschi). Our GM swung for the fences trying to land players via offer sheet. Then the bottom fell out.
We didn't know what was ahead... Its so long, painful and terrible that we still aren't even out of the woods. I hope the Lames are ready for a LONG ride of pure absolute suckery. I suppose they could short circuit it a bit and get back to middling for 8th place like the Leafs. But if you are gonna suck, you might as well do it right.
Damn. This sucks. Flames win 3-0 as Joey Mac gets the shutout. Right? Right.
Best of luck tonight Schevvy. Maybe restock the liquor cabinet: if the Flames win, it's celebration time! If they lose....it's celebration time!
Honestly, an injured animal is the most dangerous, and these Flames are well and truly bleeding out. If the Oilers approach with complacency or arrogance it could get away from them very quickly. Tonight will be a good test of whether this young team can focus, or become distracted by standings and what might be.
This really doesn't sound much different than the GDB's that we get to write ourselves...
Hey Oiler fans,
Do you think you have exclusive rights to suck every year for high round draft picks?
Screw you! The Flames will prove that they can do it even worse than you, just to prove a point!!
The New Battle of Alberta!
I wonder if they don't even fall far enough to land in the top three picks. Sure they're getting a great prospect who is projected to turn into a really good hockey player, but they'd miss out on a potential future superstar.
What really worries me is that a team like Colorado, who also seems like just a few key pieces short of a really impressive team, could end up with Seth jones.
Maybe we finish ninth in the west then win the lottery this year. It seems like that's Tambi bailiwick
Why would the Flames need to re-tool? Feaster is doing a great job as one right now.
CALGARY IS GOING TO WIN THE LOTTERY. It's the only thing Feaster doesn't have control over. That means we have a good chance.
The worst thing Edmonton could do to us is wait to win until overtime.
April 03 2013, 03:46PM
Man... that kid from Bosnia sounds like a gem!
If the Flames don't get first overall, they should definitely trade up for it.
Oilers 100000000000 Lames 0
Mwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Ha.
The interesting thing with Flames fans is they still try to bag on the Oilers for most likely missing the playoffs this year. They say it like making the playoffs, or getting 8th place is the primary goal of an NHL season. Cause you never know! Forget being a Stanley Cup contender, you just want to grind in at all costs then hopefully it works out!
Its been that way for the Flames for so many years. 8th place! 8th place! 8th place! They just don't understand that we are pretty happy to be in the race this year and continue to develop. We understand its most probable and logical we miss this year. But we are happy because its the road to a championship team or at least a strong Cup contender for many years, hopefully in a few short years, but certainly not this year. This year is part of the process, but Flamers just don't understand.
I actually think its smart brainwashing by Flames ownership. Their fans should demand a winner, not just a middling team whose goal is to grind into the playoffs. But for some reason Flamers have had their expectations lowered to the point that making the playoffs is the goal.
Re: Feaster being told by Edwards that they will make the playoffs next year.
This is perhaps Edwards putting Feaster on notice, but also, were I a Flames fan, this is absolutely the last thing I would want to hear.
Presumably two of those three 1st round picks are now in play at the draft.
One detail that kept coming up when looking at rebuilding teams, the ones that have done it well have all been kicked off by ownership. Once the owners are on board, then things can proceed from there. If the owner is impatient, might as well put your fan hopes and expectations in a small jar and hide them at the back of the closet until reason prevails.
Hahaha WOW were we really that bad of a team in 2010, what am awful looking team
Wow, Nashville just gave up its leading goal scorer, and what sounds like an okay AHL prospect for on of last year's big draft names, Fillip Foresburgh.
Does anyone else know why they made this move? I mean, if they think they're going to the playoffs, as their current tied for 8th standing might suggest, then why trade away your team's leading scorer for a solid future prospect?
However, now that they have done this, do we play Nashville again this year?
As for tonight, I seem to remember us playing spoiler to the flames at the end of last year, beating them twice down the stretch (and badly both times). And I think we even had a depleted roster. Hall was definitely out. So before we claim our victory tonight and rightful place in the standings, lets temper it with a look at the stat sheet from last game.
First off, yes I agree.
Secondly, it wasn't that long ago, albeit in a different economic climate, that Oiler fans were in the same mindset.
April 03 2013, 03:52PM
Going to the game tonight. The only question is if I wear my Eberle Jersey or my SQUEEE T-shirt.
*leaning towards SQUEE
**where are the hot cousins at?
April 03 2013, 03:54PM
The 2013 Flames are the 2007 Oilers.
They dont even know how bad it will get. Heck, Murray Edwards said he expects the Flames to be in the Playoffs next year.
Although presumably Feaster won't try and beg Heater to come to Calgary . . .
Re: Feaster being told by Edwards that they will make the playoffs next year.
This is perhaps Edwards putting Feaster on notice, but also, were I a Flames fan, this is absolutely the last thing I would want to hear.
Presumably two of those three 1st round picks are now in play at the draft.
One detail that kept coming up when looking at rebuilding teams, the ones that have done it well have all been kicked off by ownership. Once the owners are on board, then things can proceed from there. If the owner is impatient, might as well put your fan hopes and expectations in a small jar and hide them at the back of the closet until reason prevails.
I hate to say it, but the Leafs are a good example of a team with downward pressure from owners to make the playoffs in a very short time frame. And though they did not make it in that time frame, in the shortened season this year, the team that Burke built is having success.
Which kind of makes you wonder what the standing would be like with a full season. It's pretty tight right now and over the course of a full season, very few teams in the league would really be "out of it" at this point.
In 212 games played vs. the Oil, the Flames are;
Can you guys even get close to .500 before the Flames sort this out? Hahahaha.. I'll take bets on that one.
In 5 Playoff series vs the Flames, the Oilers are;
Oh, and the one we lost we scored the winner on ourselves. Just in case you wanted to talk about games that really count.
April 03 2013, 04:02PM
Kicking a dog when it is down is easy...and bragging about being better than the Shames right now is akin to claiming your stuble grows the fastest at a bald convention...
The good news is that you'll get lots of practice carving the flames...enjoy your butter knife...
Two questions:
Doesn't Timberlake brag about being versatile as well?
Is versatile just a slick way of saying you're mediocre at everything?
Source for the Feaster quote?
@TSNJFranklin : "Murray Edwards told me to have this team in the playoffs next year... that's a marching order" Jay Feaster quoting a Flames owner
I don't know how to provide the actual link
To all our friends in Flameland, just be happy that our friend NewAgeSys is not much of a trash talker because it would go on for pages... and pages... and pages... in fact, your "re-tooling" might be over by the time he finished... See you around the draft table, fellas!
I had the thought earlier today that maybe the Alberta teams would have more camaraderie given the tough times we're going through/about to go through as hockey clubs. Maybe, we could be brothers of the basement and be friends?
Then I remembered, its the Oilers. We wouldn't want to stoop that low. GO FLAMES!


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Sale (17-7, 2.86 ERA) has dominated at U.S. Cellular Field. In his last 10 home starts he is 8-0 with a 1.45 ERA and 73 strikeouts while opponents are hitting .197 against him. Today marks Sale's second start of the year versus the Rays. He struck out 15 batters in 7 1/3 innings on May 28 at Tampa Bay.
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Where can i find drawing of electron dot stuctures for compounds like BR2 and HCN HCN is at the link below. http://dl.clackamas.edu/ch106-01/formulas.htm I couldn't find one for Br2 on line but here is how it will look.   .. .. :Br:Br:   .. .. That ...
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There is a lot on this at: http://fig.cox.miami.edu/~cmallery/150/life/top_10_life.htm Make sure and go all the way to the bottom when you get there. characteristics of living things
November 20, 2006
Math Puzzler For Ken and BobPursley
Below is the original question and emailed response from my friend, Dr Ford, a theoretical physicist at Tufts University in Boston. Question: We have a normal watch. The big hand is 4cm long and the little hand is 3cm long. What's the distance between the tips of the hands...
November 19, 2006
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melting_point Question: A solid substance has a vapor pressure of 100 mmHg at the melting point (100C). Assuming an atmospheric pressure of 760 mmHg, describe the behavior of this solid as the temperature is raised from room temperature to its ...
November 13, 2006
Give us the figures. Density is equal to mass over volume. D= M --- V To get mass you weigh the object. To get volume you either measure it depending on its shape eg. round, square. etc. or you submerge it in a graduated cylinder and measure the displacement ie. the water ...
November 13, 2006
Please don't do that again or you will be banned from this forum.Your question is pretty vague. What observation table are you using? There are thousands of different types of data tables. Is it in Microsoft Excel? Give more details. Try reposting your question with more ...
November 13, 2006
Chemistry (Need) 7:00
What characterizes the electron configurations of transition metals such as silver and iron? Thanks Alot in Advance.. Fe is in the 3d transition series and Ag is in the 4d series. Thus, the distinguishing electron for the 3d series enters the 3d orbital while those for the 4d ...
November 12, 2006
Science 1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protostar http://www.google.com/search?as_q=&num=10&hl=en&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=stellar+evolution&as_oq=&as_eq=&lr=&as_ft=i&as_filetype=&as_qdr=all&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&as_occt=title&as_dt=i&as_sitesearch=&as_rights=&safe=images Which relationship ...
November 7, 2006
Distributive property
if its homework skip it cause teachers just look if you have your name
September 20, 2006
scientific method
http://classweb.gmu.edu/biologyresources/writingguide/ScientificPaper.htm What are the steps of the scientific method? I think this should add a little more to answering your questions. First you have to decide what question(s) you want to answer â what ...
September 2, 2005
life science
By movement I'm guessing you mean dispersal? Otherwise fungi don't move much. Try here: http://www.botany.hawaii.edu/faculty/wong/BOT135/Lect05_c.htm way of learning more about the natural world that provides possible explanations to questioins and involvesusing a ...
September 1, 2005
catalyst: a substance that changes the speed of a chemical reaction without affecting the yield or undergoing permanent chemical change* As you can see NO (nitrogen monoxide) did not undergo a permanent change. *http://www.chem.purdue.edu/gchelp/gloss/catalyst.html Lance, ...
August 5, 2005
According to Webster's not much. I'd say they were synonyms. Shoal: a large group or number : CROWD <a shoal of fish> School: a large number of fish or aquatic animals of one kind swimming together http://www.m-w.com/dictionary.htm
July 24, 2005
bobpursley, drwls. ms. sue Writeacher
When a second post is made to a question, the most recent is now at the bottom. Do any of you prefer the way it was, or do you like this better? I prefer to have the answers shown in the order they were posted. The second answer may clarify or add information to the first post...
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Sehr schöne Wohnung, alles sauber und angenehm. Es hat uns sehr gefallen und wir haben uns sofort wohl gefühlt. Wenn wir das nächste Mal in dieser Region Ferien machen, wird diese Wohnung die erste Wahl sein.
Spacy appartment with lots of storage room and room for the bags so no mess. Ekstra plus was the feather duvets.
Great location.
Wir waren sehr begeistert! (Unbedingt aber Schneeketten nicht vergessen im Winter!) Tolle Lage und eine wahnsinns Aussicht auf den Berg! Das Apartment war sehr sauber, groß, gemütlich und schön. Die Vermieterin super nett und hilfsbereit. Gerne kommen wir wieder :)
Prima verblijf, netjes, heerlijke douche. Aardige eigenaar.
The apartment in Chamonix was good. Centrally located and perfect for access to Brevent ski area. Short drive to get to Grand Montets and Flagere. Three of us stayed which was a bit cosy - better suited to 2 people only.
Il s'agissait en fait d'une charmante petite maison avec terrasse ; vue panoramique et splendide. Les hôtes des plus généreux et sympathiques.
Une expérience fortement recommandable.
We enjoyed our stay in Christian's apartment in La Tejita near Montana Roja and El Médano. The apartment is well equipped with all your basic needs covered however it is not corresponding to the actual apartment description mentioned on the Interhome homepage. The stove wasn't working and we complained about that. The same afternoon Christian came and changed it. Swift service, problem solved and he is a very friendly and nice guy with good English skills. But as we have had this problem we had scrutinized our contract and found that several things were not as expected thus we thought we had been placed in the wrong apartment in the complex. He explained that he only had this place, as it was peoples private homes rented out, so a replacement was not an option but Interhome had written false information about the apartment. To the list of things mentioned that wasn't there: Flat screen TV (only a normal one), 4 hotplate stove with oven (only 2 hotplates and no oven but that got changed to a new 3 hotplate stove still with no oven), electric coffee machine, iron and hairdryer. We didn't care about the other things missing except maybe the hairdryer and the oven but the stove was most important to us. Hopefully the owner will get the description corrected. The terrace is facing north and the view is uninteresting but having said that the location is absolutely great if you are an independent traveler who is looking for peace and quiet. In the evening there is nothing to do but to read books. You are living with local people not other tourist. In the complex next to you you'll find a bar with a convenience store and wifi. Also the bus to Los Christianos passes by on the main road. You are right next to a big and beautiful beach with a local beach bar open during the day. You can walk to Montana Roja and El Médano 3 km away through the dunes and hiking passages (bring a light for when it is dark). Mind the slippery surface of rubble on the mountain and no you cannot go all the way around it. When you get to El Médano you'll find an unspoiled little town mostly dominated by surfers, locals and Spanish tourists. On the beach promenade you'll find cafés and restaurants with a sea view and no traffic. I can recommend renting a car with Autos Bello located right across from Hotel Medano. We got a really great service there with pick up where we lived and drop off at the Airport Hotel we moved to the last day. Nice functional Citroen C3. Return it as you receive it. The tourist information in El Médano is also very service minded and recommended us some great trips to take with the time given. A sudden storm snowed in Teide and they were also helpful calling up traffic information confirming the roads were closed so we didn't waste time trying to get there. Instead we went to see the Pyramids in Güimar, ate lunch in Candelaria and went shopping in La Laguna. Next trip we went to Masca, Icod de los Vinos and Casa de los Balcones. All in all we had a great stay in Tenerife and it is not the last time we'll stay in La Tejita, El Médano or maybe even the campsites in Montana Roja. Thumbs up :)
Wir waren drei Tage in der Unterkunft in Grindelwald und können nur Gutes berichten. Das Apartment ist frisch renoviert, alles ist sauber und ordentlich. Die Küche ist gut ausgestattet und lässt keine Wünsche offen. Auch unsere Kontaktperson vor Ort war sehr freundlich und zuvorkommend. Einziges Manko: Das Apartment liegt nicht in Grindelwald selbst, sodass am Tag nur zwei Busse Richtung Skigebiet fahren (einer morgens, einer abends zurück). Allerdings ist sowohl die Bushaltestelle, als auch die Bahn in unmittelnbarer Nähe. Mit der Bahn kommt man alle 30min Richtung Grindelwald Ort und somit in die verschiedenen Skigebiete. Also letztlich alles problemlos!
Das Skigebiet ist ein Traum und unbedingt weiterzuempfehlen!
Weiteres Plus: Am Haus befindet sich ein kostenloser Parkplatz und ein abschließbarern Skikeller darf kostenlos mitgenutzt werden.
Verbessungswürdig: Die Wegbeschreibung war leider sehr dürftig. Dennoch haben wir das Interhome Büro recht schnell gefunden. Vor Ort wurden wir sehr, sehr freundlich empfangen. Alles wurde uns detalliert erklärt und wir haben uns auf Anhieb gut betreut gefühlt. Großes Lob und vielen Dank an Nathalie.
nice little house in suburb of sorrento.
well equipped kitchen and cosy living room.
couldn't stay in the huge garden because of too many moskitos.
garden wasn't very clean at all.
the linen package, we extra paid for, was a joke.
The people were very friendly, the studio offered everything you needed, the bed was comfy and the location was good, just 350 m to the beach. You had your own terrace and parking lot, which was great. It is a very quiet location, good to calm down and relax. For two persons it is very big, I was scared, but of course most of people would enjoy that luxury of lots of space. The accommodation definitely is a great choice for that price!
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Skip to comments.Why Did Cordoba Project Change It's Name To Park 51, When It's Address is 45 47 Park?
Posted on 09/14/2010 2:49:50 PM PDT by CharlesMartelsGhost
Good question, huh? I've wondered about this for awhile.
Cordoba House changed its name to Park 51 which is odd since the address of the location is 45 47 Park Place.
Look to the Koran-the book of islamic conquest Qur'an CHAPTER 51, Verses 45-47 explains all:
51:45 And they were unable to arise, nor could they defend themselves. 51:46 And [We destroyed] the people of Noah before; indeed, they were a people defiantly disobedient. 51:47 And the heaven We constructed with strength, and indeed, We are [its] expander.
The numbered Qur'an verses celebrating the Muslim conquests match up to the Park 51: 45-46-47 address.
Also consider this Sept. 10th NYPost article, by Amir Taheri:
Islam center's eerie echo of ancient terror Should there be a mosque near Ground Zero? In fact, what is pro posed is not a mosque -- nor even an "Islamic cultural center."
In Islam, every structure linked to the faith and its rituals has a precise function and character. A mosque is a one-story gallery built around an atrium with a mihrab (a niche pointing to Mecca) and one, or in the case of Shiites two, minarets.
Other Islamic structures, such as harams, zawiyyahs, husseinyiahs and takiyahs, also obey strict architectural rules. Yet the building used for spreading the faith is known as Dar al-Tabligh, or House of Proselytizing.
The Ground Zero project doesn't fit the traditional minaret. This 13-story [fifteen story if you include subgrade levels] multifunctional structure couldn't be any of the above.
The groups fighting for the project know this; this is why they sometimes call it an Islamic cultural center. But there is no such thing as an Islamic culture. Islam is a religion, not a culture. Each of the 57 Muslim-majority nations has its own distinct culture -- and the Bengali culture has little in common with the Nigerian. Then, too, most of those countries have their own cultural offices in the US, especially in New York. Islam is an ingredient in dozens of cultures, not a culture on its own.
In theory, at least, the culture of American Muslims should be American. Of course, this being America, each ethnic community has its distinct cultural memories -- the Iranians in Los Angeles are different from the Arabs in Dearborn.
In fact, the proposed structure is known in Islamic history as a rabat -- literally a connector. The first rabat appeared at the time of the Prophet.
The Prophet imposed his rule on parts of Arabia through a series of ghazvas, or razzias (the origin of the English word "raid"). The ghazva was designed to terrorize the infidels, convince them that their civilization was doomed and force them to submit to Islamic rule. Those who participated in the ghazva were known as the ghazis, or raiders. After each ghazva, the Prophet ordered the creation of a rabat -- or a point of contact at the heart of the infidel territory raided.
The rabat consisted of an area for prayer, a section for the raiders to eat and rest and facilities to train and prepare for future razzias. Later Muslim rulers used the tactic of ghazva to conquer territory in the Persian and Byzantine empires. After each raid, they built a rabat to prepare for the next razzia.
It is no coincidence that Islamists routinely use the term ghazva to describe the 9/11 attacks against New York and Washington. The terrorists who carried out the attack are referred to as ghazis or shahids (martyrs). Thus, building a rabat close to Ground Zero would be in accordance with a tradition started by the Prophet. To all those who believe and hope that the 9/11 ghazva would lead to the destruction of the American "Great Satan," this would be of great symbolic value.
Faced with the anger of New Yorkers, the promoters of the project have started calling it the Cordoba House, echoing President Obama's assertion that it would be used to propagate "moderate" Islam.
The argument is that Cordoba, in southern Spain, was a city where followers of Islam, Christianity and Judaism lived together in peace and produced literature and philosophy.
In fact, Cordoba's history is full of stories of oppression and massacre, prompted by religious fanaticism. It is true that the Muslim rulers of Cordoba didn't force their Christian and Jewish subjects to accept Islam. However, non-Muslims could keep their faith and enjoy state protection only as dhimmis (bonded ones) by paying a poll tax in a system of religious apartheid.
If whatever peace and harmony that is supposed to have existed in Cordoba were the fruit of "Muslim rule," the subtext is that the United States would enjoy similar peace and harmony under Islamic rule.
A rabat in the heart of Manhattan would be of great symbolic value to those who want a high-profile, "in your face" projection of Islam in the infidel West. This thirst for visibility is translated into increasingly provocative forms of hijab, notably the niqab (mask) and the burqa. The same quest mobilized hundreds of Muslims in Paris the other day to close a whole street so that they could have a Ramadan prayer in the middle of the rush hour.
One of those taking part in the demonstration told French radio that the aim was to "show we are here." "You used to be in our capitals for centuries," he said. "Now, it is our turn to be in the heart of your cities."
Before deciding whether to support or oppose the "Cordoba" project, New Yorkers should consider what it is that they would be buying.
Coincidentally, another audacious ME construction project involving surprising landmark status decisions is going to forever change the NYC skyline. It just happens to be called Carnegie57. The qur'an verses for chapter 57 include:
All that is in the heavens and the earth glorifieth Allah
His is the Sovereignty of the heavens and the earth; He quickeneth and He giveth death; and He is Able to do all things
the Messenger invites you to believe in your Lord, He is the One Who sends to His Servant Manifest Signs, that He may lead you from the depths of Darkness into the Light and verily Allah is to you most kind and Merciful.
And what cause have ye why ye should not spend in the cause of Allah?- For to Allah belongs the heritage of the heavens and the earth. Not equal among you are those who spent (freely) and fought, before the Victory,
No new mosques at GZ or anywhere else in America. The cult of Islam is not compatible with western civilization.
Remember the forefathers of these same intelligista, elitists and dhimmis thought Nazism, Stalimism and Maoism were peaceful and harmless ideologies also. History shows where this thinking led.
This is bone-chilling.
Fascinating article, thanks for posting.
Islam must be destroyed.
Cordoba House changed its name to Park 51 which is odd since the address of the location is 45 47 Park Place.
Look to the Koran-the book of islamic conquest Qur'an CHAPTER 51, Verses 45-47 explains all:
51:45 And they were unable to arise, nor could they defend themselves. 51:46 And [We destroyed] the people of Noah before; indeed, they were a people defiantly disobedient. 51:47 And the heaven We constructed with strength, and indeed, We are [its] expander.
Rounding error?
4+5 = 9
4+7 = 11
So 4547 = FU America.
Finally, some math I can understand!
As to the rest of the article, I about peed myself laughing. Not because I disagree, but because "eureka" often leads to such laughter. That makes so much sense.
Personally, I think the extremely dull-witted, sly and oleaginous imam Ralph can't even get the address right. What a maroon.
Hey Mayor Bloomberg! Glad you backed this idiot?
Frankly, I think its time to make allusions to Lepanto.
"All men lose when freedom fails, and good men rot in filty jails. And those who cried "appease, appease," are HANGED (or in this case, BEHEADED) by those they sought to please."
Wow. Desecration!!!!
No doubt...chilling to say the least. Must be stopped.
No GZ mosque, no mosques anywhere in America. The cult of islam demands "understanding", which is taqiyyah and kitman, while they build a mosque on a Christian cemetary, yet riot over the burning of a book.
Link to article here if anyone wants to post it: http://www.onenewsnow.com/Persecution/Default.aspx?id=1165410
"I summon my blue-eyed slaves anytime it pleases me. I command the Americans to send me their bravest soldiers to die for me. Anytime I clap my hands a stupid genie called the American ambassador appears to do my bidding. When the Americans die in my service their bodies are frozen in metal boxes by the US Embassy and American airplanes carry them away, as if they never existed. Truly, America is my favorite slave."
King Fahd Bin Abdul-Aziz, Jeddeh 1993
For the source of that quotation, visit the link below (copy and paste if necessary), go to page 272 and scroll to the bottom of the page.
I guess their oil is the only POSSIBLE reason to shed American blood for these people. It begs a question: WHY THE HELL ARENT WE USING OUR OWN?? ARE WE MAD? (Dont answer that.)
The GZ mosque is what they refer to as a victory mosque...it is what they build when they believe they have pummeled their enemy. It will be viewed as a western mecca...muslims from around the world will journey there on every 9/11 to celebrate. It must be stopped!
Enough with the sensitivity crap already
I believe this. Muslims from around the world will come here every 911 to celebrate.
When they allow catholic cathedrals and pentecostal megachurches in Mecca. Not before.
Russia and China may be authoritarian but at least the adults are still in charge and REAL industry is encouraged. I wouldn't be surprised if Russia is the new promise-land after the Obots stop getting their checks.
The US was doomed as soon as any idiot with a pulse was allowed to vote for "free" money. All doled out by corrupt politicians doing anything for votes.
That information needs to go to O'Reilly, Hannity, Beck, Limbough, Levin and everyone.
Italy has it right. Islam is not classified as a religion due to its polygamy, mistreatment of women and children, honor killings and lack of respect for other religions, etc.....
Italy, with approx. 1 million islamo-cultists, has allowed only one mosque to be built in the country.
Italy also is going to file a complaint with the UN Human Rights Council on the mistreatment of religious minorities bu Muslims in Muslim countries. Doubt they'll have any success due to it being populated with the same thugs committing the atrocities.
The citizens fo Seville, Spain were in an uproar when their libtard politicians apporved a mosque to be built. They buried dead pigs on the proposed site, poured pig blood all over the land and made it public. the mosque was cancelled. Official reason "lack of funds to build it".
Geert Wilders' party is growing stronger in the Netherlands and Denmark has made citizenship so strick that the islamo-facists have scurried across the Oresund Bridge to the liberal utopia, turned Muslim ghetto, Malmostan or Swedenstan.
While back here in America small communites, Murfreesboro, Tn. and Florence Ky., with small islamo-cultist populations are begin forced, like the GZ mosque, to have one built despite the locals objection to it. The goal of the islamo-cultist is to build a mosque and like flies to sh*t others will move there and demand "special" rights. Look at Little Somali in the Twin Cities or the islamo-cultist suing Disney. November is just the start of a long political war against US libertards. I say we digh the hole in the sand bigger so the libtards and Rinos will be able to have their whole body buried not just their necks in the sand, as it relates to WWIII with the cult of Islam.
Speaking of Russia, they just signed a contract with Israel for buying advanced military equipment. Russia, may be playing both sides of the fence in the ME, as our unqualified politicans disparage the only civilized, advanced and free country in the ME, Israel, while selling military equipment to the Saudis. The Saudis are peeing in their pants about Iran, because they know Iran has them on their attack list.
Funny how we never hear about the Uighurs revolting in the name of the cult of Islam. China has them where they should be everywhere in the world, under the government's military supervision. Any protest or revolt immediately and decisively put down.
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This caught my eye. Does it explain obama's slip up of saying 57 states?
Yes. Absolutely.
From 6 months before the Presidential election:
The Prophet imposed his rule on parts of Arabia through a series of ghazvas, or razzias (the origin of the English word "raid"). The ghazva was designed to terrorize the infidels, convince them that their civilization was doomed and force them to submit to Islamic rule. Those who participated in the ghazva were known as the ghazis, or raiders. After each ghazva, the Prophet ordered the creation of a rabat -- or a point of contact at the heart of the infidel territory raided.
The rabat consisted of an area for prayer, a section for the raiders to eat and rest and facilities to train and prepare for future razzias. Later Muslim rulers used the tactic of ghazva to conquer territory in the Persian and Byzantine empires. After each raid, they built a rabat to prepare for the next razzia.
Ping for the 'Islamic cultural center' lie...
Fascinating article and thread. Thanks for the ping.
Thought you would like it.
Mayhaps reminiscent of the disco Club 51?
Definitely. Ground Zero - 2020....the year we make 'real contact'.....
Chilling! WAKE UP AMERICA!!
(thanks for the ping. I would have hated to miss this)
Depending how much the push us, perhaps sooner...
I just clicked on the link for the "Infidel Bloggers Alliance" and my browser gave me a message that it is blocked as an "attack page."
What does that mean, exactly?
That is odd. I've never had such a message relating to Infidels Blogger Alliance..
Is this the link you are trying to access: http://rpc.blogrolling.com/redirect.php?r=caca93b61b79cd741e2bf0db31d62a9b&url=http%3A%2F%2Fibloga.blogspot.com%2F
It is the one I have on my Favorites and I get to the blog site w/o any hiccups.
big time ping!
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Virgin Blue Takes Out AFTA NTIA Award Trifecta08/07/2008
Virgin Blue voted 'Best National' and 'Best Regional Airline' three years in a row and inducted into the afta NTIA Hall of Fame
Virgin Blue is flying high after receiving two top airline awards at the 2008 afta (Australian Federation of Travel Agents) National Travel Industry Awards (NTIA).
For the third year running Virgin Blue has taken out Australia's 'Best National Airline' and Australia's 'Best Regional Airline' awards over finalists Qantas for the national award and REX and Qantaslink for the regional award. On top of the two awards Virgin Blue was also inducted into the afta NTIA Hall of Fame.
afta represents the majority of travel agents in Australia and the annual travel industry awards recognise the industry's leading companies from a range of travel sectors including airlines, hotels, travel agents, car rental companies and wholesalers.
A record number of nominees were received for this year's awards, with the finalists nominated by travel agents who then vote for their favourite out of the shortlist based on personal experience in their dealings with the company from their own and their client's (the traveller's) perspective.
Virgin Blue Chief Executive, Brett Godfrey, said, "To be nominated and recognised as the best regional and best national airline by our industry peers not once, not twice, but three times in as many years is quite an honour.
"We value the relationships we have with travel agencies and individual agents and winning these awards is a reflection of the commitment and service provided by our outstanding team."
Virgin Blue's John Kelly, Industry Sales Manager, Alan Brooks, Regional Industry Sales Manager, Lesley Owen, Manager Travel Industry Sales and Gary Manuel, Sales Development Manager - Industry accepted the awards to rapturous applause at a special ceremony held at The Westin Hotel in Sydney over the weekend. Over 850 industry professionals attended the event.
On presenting the awards AFTA Chief Executive, Mike Hatton, said on the night, "Achievement of a finalist status clearly shows the recognition of your peers of your contribution to our Industry and recognition by ones peers is the greatest recognition that any industry can bestow".
The award criteria are based on a combination of factors including customer service, product and innovation.
Multi award winning airline Virgin Blue and international carriers Pacific Blue and Polynesian Blue currently operate a fleet of 68 modern Boeing 737 and Embraer E-Jet aircraft flying to 24 Australian and eight international destinations including New Zealand, Fiji, Samoa, Tonga, Vanuatu and the Cook Islands. Virgin Blue was the first airline in the world to launch a Government-certified carbon offset program, where Guests can offset the carbon emissions from their flights. Virgin Blue Group has also announced plans to launch Australia's newest international airline, V Australia, set to commence flights between Australia and the USA from late 2008, subject to regulatory approvals.


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Bearish on Biggs
Cam Charron
July 15 2013 11:02AM
Something we'll start to notice this summer is that in roster projections like the one I had this morning, Tyler Biggs or Josh Leivo are going to be slotted in to make the team. This isn't a bad thing. There's a roster spot open and two equal players that are going to be challenging for it, both young players with a few games of pro experience to wind up on a depth spot on an NHL roster.
Leivo was taken with the 86th pick in the 2011 draft while the Leafs traded up to take Biggs in the same draft at No. 22. In doing so, they forfeited a high 2nd round selection to take a player with marginal offensive upside. In the video above, Tyler Biggs' comparable player is Colby Armstrong, a player that needed four years of AHL seasoning and became a marginally-good top six forward until becoming a replacement-level checking forward the day he turned 27.
There's nothing wrong with needing Colby Armstrongs or third-line forwards on your roster, but the Colby Armstrongs of the world are available every free agent summer. There's little sense in drafting a player of which many different versions exist. With two years of hindsight, it's easy to look now and say that perhaps Brandon Saad, Ty Rattie or Boone Jenner would have been better selections, but they also displayed some offensive eptitude (it's the opposite of ineptitude) in their draft seasons.
There's also nothing wrong with Biggs. He's an offensive zone guy that established possession in the zone and a big forward that helped the
Ottawa 67s Oshawa Generals cycle the puck. It's just that you get the impression that he'll never be a top six forward within a reasonable amount of time in the NHL. He simply doesn't have offensive sense that makes him little more than replacement-level at this point. Having a good supporting cast is great, but there are still some good UFAs that play the wing in a checking role that could come pretty cheap. Size is overvalued at the NHL draft and it isn't just the Leafs that take big players far too early.
If Biggs makes the NHL he's a success. Still, it looks to be unlikely that he makes it in any legitimate capacity this season. He had just 53 points in 60 games this season as a 19-year-old. At 149th overall, Austen Brassard is the first OHL forward taken after the Leafs first pick in 2011 that did not outscore Biggs in the OHL last season. Josh Leivo, who was a bit of a project pick at 86th, managed 73 points in 63 games and, as we've mentioned, is just as good a bet to make the Leafs.
There are some good excuses that are served up for Biggs' lack of production in the NCAA:
"I thought there was a little bit more individual talent in the OHL, guys that will be franchise-type players," Biggs said. "At the same time, in the college game guys are a little older and bigger, and that can make it difficult for a young player to beat them down low sometimes. In the OHL I was able to be more of an impact player down low and create space for my linemates. I was also put in a position with Oshawa to have more offensive opportunities. It allowed me to try to do things more on my own from time to time, especially being a big body-player -- a power forward."
By Biggs' own admission, he couldn't compete with the NCAA players. He told NHL.com's Mike Brophy that "joining the Generals allowed him to compete against players in his own age group". That's not going to be a thing at the NHL-level.
Here's another one, but this is for his OHL numbers:
Perhaps because he wasn't used to such a long and demanding schedule coupled with the fact he played for the United States at the 2013 IIHF World Junior Championship, it appeared he ran out of gas late in the season. Biggs does not buy into that theory, even though he managed one assist in nine playoff games with Oshawa.
Biggs refuted that as well. "I was still doing great on the penalty kill and defensively. I was shutting down top lines."
It's difficult to dispute those notions because data collection in the OHL is limited at best. I don't judge NHL players by goals and points so it's unfair to judge NHL players by goals and points, but the goals and points need to come from somebody, and they come much cheaper if they come during RFA years.
More importantly, if Biggs is on your projected roster and you're attempting to tally goals for the next year, don't assume he's an offensive dynamo simply because he was a first round pick.
What are Biggs TOI? Eric T over at broadstreet hockey did some good studies that project future success based on TOI in CHL.
TOI along with points/SH% is probably the best way we have to judge talent but this is an art at best. Development times, good coaching, player attitude to learning all play a role.
One positive note is Biggs willingness to take time to improve his skating with Underhill. He knows he has to improve and is willing to put in the effort to improve. This to me is a positive because he is not simply relying on his soup can physique and overpowering other players which at the NHL level will be less of an advantage.
I don't think anyone will overrate his production. When they drafted him it was obvious he would slot in as a checker with the ability to pot a few goals here and there. Big, decent scorers in junior rarely ever become bonafide top 6 scorers in the nhl.
I'm just happy we're still talking about him 2 years later because I wasn't sure why they wouldn't go for more of a highly skilled player at the time.
26 goals and 53 points in the OHL far exceeds the expectations of Biggs' nay-sayers, though they'll never admit it. His playoff point totals could be concerning, but 1. It's hardly fair to judge him on 9 games and 2. I do believe Oshawa tried to spread out their scoring, leaving Biggs off the top line.
Biggs sucks. The leafs could have signed a player like him for cheaper then his ELC in the UFA market. Matt Hendricks who is BIggs absolute ceiling. And heck joey freakin crabb 2.0 at less then 1M. I'm calling Biggs - Joey Crabb 2.0