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Warm greetings to CUBRID Community!
There is one thing I can't help telling, I really love CUBRID! Let me tell you why. CUBRID cares about you! Besides being just the most optimized database for Web applications, CUBRID cares about its users a lot. They keep receiving tons of comments from users: some support requests, some feature requests, and some just "thank you" feedbacks. The Korean community is certainly the most active in this case. They have even established the CUBRID Education Center to help Korean users learn CUBRID faster and with a great pleasure. This is exactly what they say: "Let's Study, Develop, and Enjoy Together!"
User Feedback Project! For the global users they have recently started the project with a message "Which feature would encourage you to use CUBRID database for your project?" They do not stop asking users if there is anything more they want to see in the future releases. You just tell what you need for your development, and for the next month or two CUBRID will be committed to having your most requested features included in next release. You doubt? Just go to http://cubrid.uservoice.com and try it yourself. Write your response to "I would use CUBRID if...", join the discussions with other users, and decide together which feature you want to see in the next version of CUBRID.
Release Frequency! Let's see how other database providers cope with it. We will count only major (first number changes) and minor (second number changes) releases and exclude the bug fix releases (third number changes), since 1st number increment indicates on the major change, the second number increments anytime new features are added, or there are some performance enhancements. And this is what important for us users.
According to End Point's Blog article, the average release period for PostgreSQL is about 288 days since version 6, which is about 9 months. If you take version 7 and onwards, the release period goes up to 367 days. If we look at just version 7, the average is 324 days. If we look at just version 8, the average is 410. Simply put, you have to wait one year or even more to start using your requested features.
Let's look at the MySQL change history. Version 3.23 was first released in alpha state on Jul. 05, 1999. 359 days later (eleven months and twenty three days) on Jun. 28, 2000, we see the improved 3.23 but still beta. Only on Jan. 17, 2001, 203 days later (six months and 20 days) we see the production release for 3.23. That is, it took one year, six months, and twelve days (562 days) to have the stable release. 4.0 production version has been released 787 days later on Mar. 15, 2003, which is two years, one month and twenty six days. One year, seven months, and 8 days later (588 days) on Oct. 23, 2004, version 4.1 is out. The next major version 5.0 was released on Oct. 19, 2005, 11 months and 26 days or 361 days later. Version 5.1 was released three years and twenty six days later (1122 days) on Nov. 14, 2008. The latest 5.5 Release Candidate is available since Sep. 13, 2010. Based on the latest MySQL Release Model and the historical data, the difference between RC and GA releases for MySQL is about 51 days, which implies that the stable version for 5.5 should appear some time during the next week, possible on Monday Nov. 15, 2010, which is exactly two years or 730 days later since the last release. Thus, in average you have to wait 692 days or almost two years to start using your requested feature in MySQL.
Now let's have a look at CUBRID's release history. When the first CUBRID release 1.0 was announced, it was not publicly available and the code was still closed, since it was intended for internal use only. So, we will start the counter from November 22, 2008, the day when CUBRID 1.1 was publicly released as an open source database management system. On Jan. 16, 2009, 55 days later (one month and twenty five days) version 1.2 was released. Then 17 days later on Feb. 02, 2009, 1.3 is out. One month and ten days later (38 days) on Mar. 12, 2009, we have 1.4. On Apr. 16, 2009, one month and four days later (35 days), 1.5 is available. The next major release 2.0 was announced on August 14, 2009, 151 days later (four month twenty nine days). 2.1 comes on Dec. 29, 2009, 106 days later (three months and fifteen days) right before the New Year, they actually made it! 122 days later (four months and one day) on Apr. 30, 2010, here comes 2.2. On Jul. 19, 2010, we have 3.0 beta out, but we will not count it. Five months and four days later (157 days) since the last 2.2 release on Oct. 04, 2010, the major version 3.0 is released. So, last Friday we have 3.1 beta release. Now let's assume when 3.1 production version will be out. Even though 77 days passed before 3.0 beta was stabilized, the CUBRID core developers say 3.1 stable will not take such long and will be out before the year turns. So, we assume Dec. 31, 2010, which is 88 days (two months and twenty seven days) since 3.0 release. In average CUBRID's release period rounds to 85 days, which is two months and 25 days.
Let's draw the conclusion and see how much a PostgreSQL/MySQL/CUBRID user should wait to start using the desired feature.
- PostgreSQL users have to wait from nine to thirteen months to use the new features.
- MySQL users have to wait almost two years to start using the requested features.
- CUBRID users have to wait at most 3 months to start using the new features.


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A little bit of the Jurassic period has been added to Canyon View Junior High School thanks to a generous donation by the Price Bureau of Land Management.
An impressive mural which has been in the Cleveland-Lloyd Dinosaur Quarry Visitors' Center for nearly 40 years has been donated to the school by the BLM. It now hangs in the Canyon View Food Court, adorning the back wall.
"It's like looking through a huge picture window into a prehistoric backyard," Principal Larry Davis said of the mural.
The framed mural is 13' x 6' and depicts a Jurassic ecosystem complete with several species of dinosaurs in a wetland environment. Although the BLM could not identify the original artist, the work was in place when the visitors' center was dedicated in 1968. One possibility is that the mural was a project of a local art consortium which included several artists.
Mike Leschin, Price BLM geologist and paleontologist, said that the visitors' center at Cleveland-Lloyd is going through a massive renovation cycle which will ultimately double the size of the facility.
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Over the years, the mural has been part of educational tours at the visitors' center, not only for what it represents in relation to the dinosaur quarry, but also for what is shown in the mural which is not indicative of the dinosaur quarry. Leschin points out that the swampy environment in the mural was not in place at the time dinosaurs inhabited the area but something that came later. There are also some inaccuracies in the size and dimension of some of the dinosaurs.
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Recently, Rep. Kay McIff helped defeat HB 208. This bill would have required students who are illegally in the United States and who are benefiting from in-state tuition at our colleges and universities to refrain from working illegally.
During his floor speech in opposition to the bill, Rep. McIff compared HB208 to George Wallace standing in the school house door. However, what Rep. McIff failed to acknowledge was that the only way students who are illegally in the United States can get a job with a "reputable" employer is to obtain a fraudulent social security card, commit perjury on an I-9 form and to commit identity theft if the social security number belongs to someone else. Of course, document fraud, perjury and identity theft are all serious felonies.
Rather than denying an education, HB208 was designed to help young people avoid committing felonies and to give proponents of in-state tuition, such as Rep. McKiff, time to find a way to help these students legally pay for their education.
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I survey corporate governance activity by institutional investors in the United States, and the empirical evidence on whether this activity affects firm performance. A small number of American institutional investors, mostly public pension plans, spend a trivial amount of money on overt activism efforts. They don't conduct proxy fights, and don't try to elect their own candidates to the board of directors. Legal rules, agency costs within the institutions, information costs, collective action problems, and limited institutional competence are all plausible partial explanations for this relative lack of activity. The currently available evidence, taken as a whole, is consistent with the proposition that the institutions achieve the effects on firm performance that one might expect from this level of effort -- namely, not much.
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Pacific Blue has announced it will continue its Trans Tasman expansion by launching two brand new routes as of November as a result of strong support and requests for more flight options.
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The new flights will begin in November and recognise the importance of the Queensland market to New Zealand holiday makers, who have made it clear they enjoy low fares as well as great service on brand new jets whether they are flying for business, to visit family or friends or to soak up some of the well known sunshine, surf and sand.
Head of Strategy & Communications, David Huttner, said, "The statistics speak for themselves and clearly indicate that Queensland is one of the most popular international holiday destinations for New Zealanders, while a growing number of Queenslanders see New Zealand as an exciting and convenient holiday option. More and more Australians are taking short breaks to different regions of New Zealand with the Wellington region offering a great choice of cultural offerings, award winning wineries and the nearby Abel Tasman National Park. Further south, Christchurch is proving to be the ideal gateway for the stunning scenery of the south island. We are confident the expansion of Pacific Blue routes will stimulate more people to travel more often, for less".
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The town of Clawson may not be very big. With a population of 154, you might not even know it's there. But, the people of Clawson have a lot of heart. The town recently hosted a Fall Harvest celebration. Originally planned as an outdoor event, the celebration was moved indoors due to inclement weather. The activities included dinner and games for everyone.
Clawson is proud of its heritage. It is located seven miles southwest of Castle Dale. It was settled in the spring of 1897 and was originally named Kingsville after one of the original settlers. In 1904 the Mormon apostle Rudger Clawson visited the town and the town was so impressed with his visit they changed the name to Clawson. Some agree with that story of the naming of the town and others say the town was already named Clawson before the apostle came to town.
If you ask anyone in Utah where Clawson, Utah is they might not be able to tell you.But, Clawson is in the heart of Emery County, here residents gather together in times of need and crisis and support each other. It is a tight knit community. You might think Clawson is just a suburb of Ferron, but you would be wrong. Clawson has its own post office and town hall. Around the town hall there is a pavilion with picnic tables where parties are held and residents can use the facility for personal activities as well. Clawson at one time had its own school which closed in 1933. Students from Clawson attend elementary school in Ferron and San Rafael Junior High. High school students attend school at Emery High in Castle Dale.
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im moving to murphy n.c. and looking for deposite information on a rentl property that ill be renting. its address is 558 miles end? any help as far as locating service company in that area would be greatly appreciated. thanks
Electric utilities in North Carolina
An illustrated guide to the electric utilities that serve North Carolina.
More than 100 separately organized electric utilities serve North Carolina's consumers. Depending on where you live or work, you could receive electric service from a consumer-owned cooperative, an investor-owned utility, your city government, a university-owned utility or some other utility operating in the state. Each covers a designated service area.
In the early days of electrification, power generally was available only in larger communities, where power companies could be assured of an economic return. In the 1930s and '40s, rural residents formed cooperatives that they could own and manage themselves to bring electricity to more sparsely populated regions.
After World War II, growth in North Carolina's towns and cities began spilling over into these formerly rural areas. In 1965, the North Carolina Utilities Commission (an agency of state government formed in 1891) brought together investor-owned utilities and cooperatives in order to define and assign service areas. This division of service areas still stands today, although with some modifications.
Municipally-owned utilities serve customers within their city or town limits. In 2005, state legislation clarified the procedures by which cooperatives and municipal electric systems negotiate their respective service areas in relation to one another.
In the summer of 2012, a merger of the investor-owned utilities Duke Energy and Progress Energy formed the largest electric utility in the nation. Duke Energy (the official name of the merged corporations) serves some 7.2 million electric accounts in six states, including about 3.2 million in North Carolina.
The North Carolina Utilities Commission has jurisdiction over the licensing of new generating plants operated by all electric utilities and over the construction of new electric transmission facilities that are 161 kilovolts and above in size. Investor-owned utilities operate within the jurisdiction of the commission, which oversees their rates and service practices. Cooperatives and municipal electric systems are regulated by their own local governing bodies.
Cooperatives pay all the taxes that investor-owned utilities pay, except income tax, because cooperatives are not-for-profit businesses.
The North Carolina Rural Electrification Authority, whose five members are appointed by the governor, reviews the cooperatives' federal loan applications and consumer comments.
Investor-owned electric utilities
Duke Energy Carolinas
- Headquartered in Charlotte.
- Serves approximately 2.4 million accounts in central and western North Carolina and western South Carolina in a service area of approximately 24,000 square miles.
Duke Energy Progress
- Wholly-owned subsidiary of Duke Energy.
- Serves approximately 1.5 million accounts in central and eastern North Carolina, plus an area in and around Asheville and in northeastern South Carolina. The total service area is approximately 34,000 square miles.
- Headquartered in Richmond. Operates in northeastern North Carolina as Dominion North Carolina Power.
- Serves approximately 120,000 North Carolina accounts.
Electric cooperatives
- Owned and governed by their members.
- Approximately 950,000 North Carolina homes, farms and businesses (approximately 2.5 million people) are served by 26 cooperatives (also known as electric membership corporations or EMCs). Their service areas extend to 93 of the state's 100 counties.
- 5 co-ops based in Virginia, Tennessee, Georgia and South Carolina serve border areas in North Carolina.
- 25 co-ops belong to the North Carolina Electric Membership Corporation, a generation and transmission cooperative that supplies its members with power primarily purchased from other utilities. NCEMC is one of the largest buyers of wholesale electric power in the nation and also owns a partial interest in the Catawba Nuclear Station in York County, S.C., two natural gas-fueled plants (in Anson and Richmond counties), and two diesel-powered generating facilities in Buxton and Ocracoke.
- All 26 N.C. co-ops belong to the North Carolina Association of Electric Cooperatives, a service association that performs services statewide, including publishing Carolina Country magazine.
Publicly-owned utilities
- More than 70 municipally-owned electric systems serve approximately 500,000 North Carolina households and businesses.
- Six universities own and operate electric utilities that serve the campuses: East Carolina, Elizabeth City State, N.C. State, UNC-Chapel Hill, UNC-Greensboro and Western Carolina.
- New River Power & Light is a unit of Appalachian State University and serves the university and the town of Boone. New River buys its power from the Blue Ridge Electric cooperative.
- Most of these systems are members of ElectriCities, an umbrella non-profit organization that provides its member systems such services as training, member and government relations, communications and emergency assistance. ElectriCities also manages two municipal power agencies supplying wholesale electricity directly to 51 ElectriCities members and indirectly to another five members. These power agencies are North Carolina Municipal Power Agency Number 1, which has a partial interest in the Catawba Nuclear Station, and North Carolina Eastern Municipal Power Agency, which has partial interests in Duke Energy's Mayo and Roxboro fossil steam plants and Brunswick and Harris nuclear plants.
- A portion of the electric power for these municipally-owned systems is purchased wholesale from investor-owned utilities.
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donald dolan
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If you are living in the rural part of Murphy, your electric cooperative would be Blue Ridge Mountain EMC. Give them your street address and they can tell you if they are your utility. The main office is right across the border in Young Harris, Towns County, Ga. Web: www.brmemc.com
Hi, I am building in Franklinton, in Franklin County, which coop covers that area and can you please provide data regarding solar...I want to utilize solar.
Carolina Country
Wake EMC serves that area. http://wemc.com
I am in Hendersonville NC. I am guess my only option is Duke Power?
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The retailer names Ed Macri senior vice president of business intelligence and marketing.
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Home goods and furnishings retailer Wayfair LLC has promoted five executives, including naming Ed Macri senior vice president of business intelligence and marketing and John Mulliken senior vice president of strategic initiatives.
Macri, who had been vice president of advertising and business intelligence, launched the business intelligence group at Wayfair.com six years ago, the retailer says. He now oversees the retailer's customer acquisition, retention and loyalty programs, as well as its business intelligence division. The business intelligence division operates quantitative marketing and analytics programs for all three of Wayfair.com's brands: Wayfair.com, Joss & Main, a flash-sale site for home furnishings, and modern design site All+Modern. Prior to joining Wayfair.com in 2007, Macri worked at IBM Corp., marketing firm Digitas and consulting firm Bain & Co.,Wayfair says.
Mulliken, who was previously vice president of strategic initiatives, now oversees strategic initiatives at Wayfair.com and works as general manager of Joss & Main, the retailer says. In his role, he works on the retailer's startup e-commerce initiatives, which include driving strategic direction, product development, execution and team building. He co-founded Joss & Main two years ago and has helped the flash-sale site acquire more than 3 million members, Wayfair says. Before joining Wayfair.com in 2010, Mulliken was a principal and executive leader with The Boston Consulting Group, the retailer says.
Wayfair, No. 50 in the Internet Retailer Top 500 Guide, also named Dave Raymond vice president of operations process improvement, Laura Scott vice president of supplier operations and Jeff Steeves vice president of marketing.
Raymond, Scott and Steeves all joined Wayfair.com in 2009, the retailer says. Over the past four years, Raymond has worked on improving company-wide processes and site merchandising. Scott oversaw the retailer's fulfillment initiatives. Steeves worked on customer acquisition and retention. All were senior directors of their respective positions before their promotions, Wayfair says.
"All five of these talented leaders have been instrumental in driving Wayfair.com's rapid growth trajectory to become the number one retailer in home goods," says Niraj Shah, CEO and co-founder of Wayfair.com. "We are excited to build upon their continued success and expertise as we expand our leadership position in the home space and deliver an unparalleled shopping experience to our customers."


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Apparently Rob Tychkowski Dislikes Dustin Penner
Jonathan Willis
February 28 2009 11:31AM
It probably isn't a good idea to read Rob Tychkowski's latest column if you're at all a fan of Dustin Penner, as I am. An excerpt:
Shut out. Out-shot 17-5 in the second period. And as you looked down at that flea-bitten dog Thursday night you couldn't help wondering if some of those players even care.
Dustin Penner, the NHL poster boy for comfort zones and inconsistency, refused to comment on the state of the team yesterday. "There's other guys in there to talk to," he sniffed as he walked out of the dressing room at Millenium Place. Leaving the unpleasant work for somebody else? Why should his interviews be any different than so many of his games?
Those are some fairly gratuitous shots at Penner, so I thought I'd see how he performed against the Blue Jackets in that 1-0 loss. His NHL.com stats sheet didn't show anything atrocious – 2 shot (leading all Oilers forwards), 3 shots directed at net (leading all Oilers forwards), 1 hit, 14:27 TOI (behind six other forwards, including Ethan Moreau and Fernando Pisani).
So, I went over to the scoring chances count that Dennis has been logging: 8 chances for, 7 chances against, numbers that put him ahead of his usual linemates from that game (Horcoff and Hemsky).
Then I went over to Vic Ferrari's Time On Ice tool to see who Penner had played against. Here are the top two defensemen and top three forwards he played against in terms of ice-time vs. Columbus:
Rick Nash – 6.1 minutes Jason Williams – 4.9 minutes Jakub Voracek - 4.2 minutes
Jan Hejda – 7.3 minutes Mike Commodore – 6.8 minutes
So Penner was playing in a power-vs.-power role with Horcoff and Hemsky against Rick Nash's line for the majority of the evening. His ice-time is only average, but despite that he comes out on top in scoring chances and leads all Oilers forwards in shots and shots directed on net.
With Dustin Penner on the ice, the Oilers directed 15 shots at the Columbus net while only allowing 12 the other way (+3). Of the 16 even-strength shots the Oilers took that reached the net, 9 of them were recorded with Penner on the ice. Let's contrast that with, say, Ethan Moreau. Moreau was on the ice for 2 shots for and 12 shots against. That's a 6:1 ratio, folks.
I can understand some anger at Penner; he's rather indifferent with the media (I've seen him shoot down Principe a few times) and he just looks lazy sometimes on the ice. That said, the media was awfully quick to rip him a new one whenever MacTavish sat him, so perhaps Penner has some reasonable resentment. The most important point is that against Columbus Penner wasn't part of the problem. Just for the record, here is how every player ranked in terms of shots for and against in that game:
Penner: (9/6) +3 Horcoff: (9/8) +1 Cole: (5/4) +1 Stortini: (2/1) +1 Hemsky: (9/9) EV Gagner: (5/5) EV Reddox: (0/1) -1 Nilsson: (3/5) -2 Cogliano: (2/7) -5 Brodziak (0/6) -6 Pisani: (0/8) -8 Moreau (2/12) -10
Gilbert: (10/6) +4 Smid: (6/7) -1 Strudwick: (1/3) -2 Peckham: (4/7) -3 Souray: (6/10) -4 Staios: (5/15) -10
I'd say the problems against Columbus are fairly apparent; obviously you can't judge a player's entire contribution by the shot clock but looking at the numbers at the bottom of this list isn't it obvious who wasn't getting the job done? Since we're looking at that list, the fact that Steve Staios led all players in ice-time (25:07) probably reflects on the coaching staff, doesn't it?
I think it's probably fair to say that Rob Tychowski was venting his personal feelings when he took those shots at Penner, rather than making an unbiased comment on the game against Columbus.
February 28 2009, 11:50AM
I bet Penner never thought he'd be the lightning rod for the teams ills when he signed that fat contract. Of course, signing a 22M deal & then showing up out of shape isn't starting on the right foot either.
Edmonton Sun is a joke, its ran out of calgary first of all. The Oilers nation crew could take over all the local articles in that sports section and it would be twice as good.
February 28 2009, 12:09PM
I am tired of people who are tired of hearing about his salary, quite frankly.
He DESERVES to be held to a higher standard, because of his salary - the fact that he took the big bills in a small market is HIS problem.
An entire city made excuses for him LAST year "He was out of shape, but that was understandable because he played so late in the year the year before...." uhhh....right. Fat and useless after signing a ridiculous contract makes perfect sense.
On the other hand the braintrust should have known what they were getting, a heartless big guy with okay at best hands.
I may be a little biased but I'm reserving my judgement on Penner until we see him in playoff action. I know that may be a while from now but if you saw the Ottawa-Anaheim series, you witnessed a dominant Dustin Penner. At 6'4", 240 lbs. he is the Oilers biggest player (sans MacIntyre) which may or may not be the reason for his regular season struggles, but come playoff time his value will skyrocket. If Gagner and Nilson can't do anything with 3 ft. of space, they definitely won't be able to with half that.
I think it's probably fair to say that Rob Tychowski was venting his personal feelings when he took those shots at Penner, rather than making an unbiased comment on the game against Columbus.
The whole point of a column is to give your opinion. It's not supposed to be unbiased. While you've jumped to the Columbus game to point out Penner wasn't nearly the worst Oiler, Rob's premise about comfort zones and inconsistency when it comes to Penner is difficult to take issue with.
February 28 2009, 12:21PM
What I don't understand, and likely won't since I'm not in Edmonton, is why Penner gets crapped on by almost everyone, while guys like Gagner are given more and more chances.
I believe I've seen some articles on ON lately stating that although Penner isn't worth the $4.25 million he's getting, he's still a valuable player. Me, I agree. I'm a fan of the Flying Fridge, and think he's doing just fine given what he's been put through.
And while I also agree with Bad Seed that showing up out of shape for a new contract isn't the best plan, and definitely puts you a few points down in the goodwill department, that was a year-and-a-half ago, he busted his ass this past summer, and for that, gets kicked off the top line for the Eric Cole Experiment. It further baffled me that people ragged on his offensive production when he was put on the third line. If you are scoring more on the third line than on the first, your entire team is likely screwed up.
So in short: Penner isn't perfect. He's probably not worth the money. He may not be worth the draft picks (but, it seems that first-round picks mean nothing if your scouting sucks, in the opposite case where lower draft picks are just fine if you have good scouting, see: Red Wings, Detroit). But I don't think he's the biggest problem on this team, nor is he even one of the top five problems (FMNF; Eric Cole, will he stay or will he go?; injuries to Vishnovsky and Grebs (baa); the goaltender situation (still); and all of the ice time sunk into the development of Gagner).
when i watch penner play. it's so weak and there is no energy. when he was on the 4th line with brodz and huggy bear, theyhit and he stood still... and got praised form it.. i didn't see our "biggest" guy on the boards doing the work...he's too valueable. psshhhh in other games, i see a 6'4 245 lbs guy getting pushed off the puck from a guy gagners size. he is useless. he can score goals..i will not deny that, but he's not the one who earns those goals and i personaly don't think we need that on this team.
February 28 2009, 12:27PM
Robin B wrote:
The whole point of a column is to give your opinion. It's not supposed to be unbiased. While you've jumped to the Columbus game to point out Penner wasn't nearly the worst Oiler, Rob's premise about comfort zones and inconsistency when it comes to Penner is difficult to take issue with.
You're right of course, I was reading it as a game report (which I've always thought was supposed to be unbiased - am I right about that?) when it is an opinion column.
Still, Tychkowski really does give the impression that he's more upset about not getting the time of day from Penner more than anything else.
February 28 2009, 12:35PM
Unless im reading a different article, I didnt get the impression he was upset because of getting snuffed. I got the impression getting snuffed was the catalyst for the piece.
But its not like he wrote an entire column on how much he hates Penner, it was only a few sentences and a quote.
Its hard to say if Penner is a just a complete jerk off, or if there is history between him and the reporter.
Apart from an avalanche of stats you must be a real Penner fan to feel that Rob Tych' column is jaundiced. Penner is a powder-puff big man with little pride in his reputation or performance.
February 28 2009, 12:41PM
If you're going to hang Penner with the noose of inconsistency and comfort zones, if fair is fair this team would be up for a mass execution.
Horcoff, Gagner, Cole, Penner, NILSSON, Pouliot, and Steve Staios should all have the same banner put about their heads.
Horcoff's lack of skill is glaringly obvious this year. He's not a number one center and never will be.
Gagner is 19 and for the most part his defensive game has improved this year, but it seems at the cost of his offensive decision making.
Cole was misused and has not even come close to finding his game in the tough north west division.
Nilsson plays like his dad, only his dad was sheltered on a good team.
Pouliot walks on egg shells.
And Steve Staios should be in the AHL or europe. He has neither the size, skating ability, puck skills or shot to be an NHL defenseman. His contract is more disgusting than dustin Penner's or Horcof's.
If you want to pick on Penner there are a half dozen other guys that should be on the list.
February 28 2009, 12:52PM
Also for all those Penner bashers, we could always have Joffery Lupul back for 4.25 mil a year.
Cole is not as effective as he should be either. I wonder if when he was looking good in Carolina in previous seasons he was playing against weaker opposition. Is a better quality of opposition showing up his poor line play? Let's face it he doesn't appear to click with any of his many linemates. The entire team seems to lack chemistry. A good example is a lack of puck support both on the forecheck and backcheck.
The Penner apologists are many. They all acknowledge his lack of everything and they gloss over that and go on to say, well there are lots of others who play the same way. So if that attitude is pervasive how is that not a coaching issue as well as an embedded culture of indifference in the dressing room?
February 28 2009, 01:00PM
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. So if that attitude is pervasive how is that not a coaching issue as well as an embedded culture of indifference in the dressing room?
And Bingo was his name-o
February 28 2009, 01:01PM
Here's the thing with Penner: based on watching him play, he often looks lazy and unmotivated.
However, despite his occasional laziness or lack of motivation, his results have actually been fairly good.
What angers me is how Craig MacTavish will often demote Penner in favour of Erik Cole or Ethan Moreau, despite the fact that Penner's results are clearly superior.
Penner is what he is: a big, offensively capable forward with motivation/consistency issues. He's also been a better option on the first line LW and on the first unit powerplay than anyone else on the roster, and it annoys me that the coaching staff doesn't seem to get it.
Dustin Penner half-trying still performs better than Ethan Moreau trying most of the time.
@ Jonathan Willis:
I thinks it falls under the same logistical thinking as watching a guy like Pouliot do absolutely nothing all year, then play horrible for a couple of weeks, get scratched and then get promoted the 2nd line?
Can you explain that one?
Or maybe you can explain how our coaching staff decides to put Grebeshkov with Gilbert for tonight's game?
Why would he put our two best puck moving defensemen in the same pairing?
Why is Staios still with Souray now that Grebsehkov is back? (Did Gilbert and Souray not play well together?)
Has Smid not earned the right to move up to the top 4 (in place of Staios) with his play of late?
MacT even admitted that Staios can not handle the bigger minutes?
Doesn't this make much more sense?
44 77 5 37 43 24
If you want to go Big Picture and opine that 27's ticket is The topic because it hinders overall team building, then you've got a point.
And you also look to the guy that signed him and kudos to Robert T for taking a nice little backhand at Kevin "Vish Throttler" Lowe with his remark in the middle of that piece!
So, yeah, it Does matter how much 27's making because we're operating under a cap system. Still, though, the ice tilts in the right direction when the big guy's on the ice. So, while I do believe he's overpaid, I've never seen a guy take so many shots from the media and I've read the sports online sports sections of both dailies for the last 10 years.
Rindog: Just wanted to add that we're not unlike a lot of other teams in this regard but we really don't have a top four D with 71 gone.
And I think this stretch has shown that he's the best blueliner we have.
February 28 2009, 01:29PM
Jonathan Willis wrote:
Dustin Penner half-trying still performs better than Ethan Moreau trying most of the time.
With 90% less stupid penalties too.
@ Dennis:
We may not have a legitimate top 4 with Visnovsky out- but I can guarantee you that Stais is NOT the answer to try and fill the hole.
Just another example of a square peg in round hole....
February 28 2009, 01:34PM
Big deal. Penner sucks.
Plus that on-ice, chances/shots for & against stat is almost totally bogus IMO.
What does it even prove from Thursday nights game against the BJ's? What does it matter? The whole team was brutal and they ended up losing 1-0 anyways. I was at the game and hardly noticed Penner the entire night.
He had flashes in first period, but that was pretty much it.
Rin: Oh, yeah, I'm with you for sure. First when 37 went down, I called Gregor and opined that we wouldn't fare well moving both 5 and 24 into top four roles because they just couldn't handle it. 24's past his prime and 5's still prone to the dumb mistakes you see on a lesser basis from say even say guys like 44 and 77. And the difference is that even though 5's beginning to lug the puck on a more consistent basis, he's got no vision when it comes to playmaking and I've yet to see him step into the slot to create a chance like say would a 37-77. He's a pure defensive dman who's not overly great in that role but is worth keeping an eye on because he's still played less than 225 GP and right now he's not costing too much.
Sing: Not getting into my chances experiment but Corsi - shots directed towards the net - is a pretty good indication of success.
So just looking at that metric, what the 1-0 loss vs CBJ proves is that the Oilers were in much better shape with 27 on the ice than say 18; I select Moreau because he's also a left-winger.
Not to mention that 27 was matched up against the Jackets best.
All that stuff matters, IMO.
February 28 2009, 01:51PM
Sing A Song For SingSing wrote:
Plus that on-ice, chances/shots for & against stat is almost totally bogus IMO.
On the other hand, virtually every team in the NHL seems to track chances for and against. Are they wrong?
February 28 2009, 02:02PM
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Edmonton Sun is a joke, its ran out of calgary first of all.
Except for, y'know, that huge EDMONTON SUN building over by Capilano Mall?
W.T. votes for Deep Oil and Pokie to take over writing for the Sun. As least then everyone would be informed. As for Penner, W.T. thinks he should enter the Powder Puff races in Lamont this weekend, it fits his on ice performance to a T.
W.T. was wondering if there is an owner of an NHL team that is an owner of another business, oh, say a drug store chain. If that drug store chain was ranked 19th out of 30 drug store chains in the area would the owner be happy? Would the owner change any corporate structure, personal, would the owner change how he delievers his business to his consumer? Would the consumer support stay the same, increase or decrease knowing there are 18 drug store chains that are better?
Or is the owner just happy to be making a huge profit and it don't really matter you all.
I agree with Jonathan. I like Penner. He is inconsistent, but he can be a difference maker when he gets some fire in his eyes. He reminds me a lot of Jason Arnott in that way. Jason Arnott was the whipping boy of the fans, but when he decided it was time to play he was awesome out there. He used his body, and his considerable skill to make room and he was a difference maker.
Arnott has only gotten better, to the point where he is a guy that can lead a team, and I think we will find the same thing with Penner. And i think he is the type of guy that could be the difference in the playoffs, and if that proves true he is worth having around.
Besides, we as a team are too small as it is and I am loathe to lose a big skilled forward even if he has some consistency issues and can be kind of rude with guys like Tychkowski. I would be rude too if I read all the things that I have read written by the media.
On another note for all those Reddox haters; he has scored more goals pergame than MAP, Gagner, Nilsson and Brodziak.
February 28 2009, 03:06PM
D.P. is one of the many young and coming forwards that has come to the OIL after showing great promise with another organization, to only, like the others fall out of favor with the coach, media, and fans. Like Eric Cole, he too will be shipped out only to find success with another team. Now maybe it's just me, but does anybody else find this trend to be a bit unusual???
Can we ask ourselves as to how many young players has this coach, and his coaching apostles that he mentors in the minors, actually developed for the OIL?? Is the coach using the player to their strengths, or is the coach believe that his system used both here and in the minors the be all end all? People will point to the success of Hemsky under MacT, but has he helped Hemsky with his natural talent or smothered it??
Never mind the horrible contract that Lowe assigned to Horcoff, but would Horcoff have been given the opportunity to be a top line centre on any other team but the OIL?? I mean, I'm sure that MacT is the favorite coach to many or most of the player's agents, as he puts plumbers in situations which allow the agents to demand more than what the player's worth! We have a GM (president) that has put great trust in his coach and his decisions, and hence we have the team that we have.
I tend to agree with many that speak to those media that for whatever reason refuse to point a finger at the coach... Given the performance of MacT over the eight plus years, what's to say that he shouldn't have been benched many years ago. Aren't you curious or wouldn't it be refreshing just to see your ticket money spent on what Daum could do with this group of players?
This coach has had more say as to how this team is built as well as that in the minors than I think we would want to believe. Though the puck stops with Lowe, I believe that there is equal blame to be handed out and they both deserve to be sitting on the outside looking in. How many more years can we just simply blame the players for the failures of this team... and other than the deck chairs what has changed over the last eight years? (sorry for the lengthy rant)
February 28 2009, 03:30PM
Jonathan Willis wrote:
Sing A Song For SingSing wrote: Plus that on-ice, chances/shots for & against stat is almost totally bogus IMO. On the other hand, virtually every team in the NHL seems to track chances for and against. Are they wrong?
What does it matter how many chances for/against players on your team are getting when they can't even capitalize?
I didn't know that teams track these stats... I doubt it when GM's are about to sign a free agent or are looking at re-signing a player, they take a hard look at the statistics of chances/shots for & against in regards with this player.
Although I do think they are useful to some degree, I think you bloggers and stats junkies on the internet read far too much into them. Hockey, to me, is not a sport which can be broken down into detailed statistical analysis like baseball.
David S wrote:
Jonathan Willis wrote: Dustin Penner half-trying still performs better than Ethan Moreau trying most of the time. With 90% less stupid penalties too.
People hate Penner because what he could be with any type of effort. I think a fair comparison would be Bertuzzi, hell Penner has a better start to his career then big Bert. However Bertuzzi would take those stupid/rough penalties utilizing his size, which made him a high tier power forward. Not just a large, medium talented player. I would LOVE Penner to get 100 PIM a season (not for hooking and tripping laziness like the ones he takes now), because he would be hitting. I'll give a standing ovation for an elbow. Every game you'll see him lined up for a decent looking hit - only to either angle the player into the boards or stick his hand up in the air and skate off. It's frustrating, and the difference between him being an overpaid second/third liner and a space making, first line pfw.
The qoute didnt work, Willis didnt say then pens thing about Penner, other poster
February 28 2009, 03:39PM
@ Loki:
Standing ovation for an elbow eh? Why, so you can see that the man is awake and into the game or something? That's weak. Precisely what is wrong with hockey and it's fans.
February 28 2009, 03:50PM
Dustin Penner The Enigma on Skates. He could hit! He could score! He could skate harder! He could work in the corners harder. The sad fact is that Dustin Penner does not hit enough , score enough or work in the corners enough. Why is that? As Oiler Fans should we be unhappy with his play or fact that we picked him up from the Ducks and gave a great whopping load of money. The other sad question is what happens when and if he plays for yet another team will he be better like most former Oilers who go to another team?
February 28 2009, 04:04PM
What was the Name of that Oiler... Young Big Guy... He was a first round draft choice for the Oil.. I think he even wore # 7 for a while... Boy ! He was quite a package, all big and slow out there.. NHL All-Rookie Team (1994) Played in NHL All-Star Game 1997 What ever happened to that guy ?
We The FANS , ran him out of town.
He went on to win a cup in 2000. He is now a Captain of His Club...
For Pete Peters sake !
We are Fans ! We should be cheering the boys on ! We should have our Rose Colored Glasses, with the " we'll get them next time ! "
It seems to work for Vancouver....
February 28 2009, 04:06PM
Jason Arnott was drafted by the Edmonton Oilers in the 1st round (7th overall) on June 26 1993.
Just in case you are new, or something !
@ Sing A Song For SingSing: Not the Bertuzzi ride him to the ice, or Marchment knees, but if your angry enough to take a swing/chippy play your in the game. Plus it creates space. (see: Messier, Howe) Souray's forearm shivers a good example. You may think its wrong in hockey, but it's a factor. You can play on the line of legality, as long as no intent to cause injury. Torres leap of faith hits illegal - but I bet you cheered.
I personally really like Penner. His problem is he has no one he can play his style of game with, Hemmer/Horc are not power forward/grinders/cyclers like getzlaf and perry are.
Also MacT said just this morning that he has learned time and time again how you have to be patient with young developing players. He doesn't seem to put Pens in that category.
But like they were saying today, we are not in that bad of a position. I still say we shouldn't trade this deadline, becasue what would we give up? most teams either want a scoring forward or an offensive d-man in return, the exact players we are asking for right now.
If this team can get fired up and start executing on all cylinders than I say we are a playoff team.
@ 99thOilfan:
i agree
I hate all this naysaying, when i watch a game i cheer for the oilers not point out all of the mistakes they are making
Does anyone remember how loud Rexall was when we were in the playoffs last, and now it seems dead quiet in that building. Maybe thats the problem; its hard to find motivation when the fans barely have your back and are often at your throats instead.
I think the unfortunate part is that the Oiler fans have inherited a team of heartless millionaires!! To single out 1 player consistently is borderline retarded. I'm just as pissed as everyone else, but look at the big picture...if you made millions of dollars to play a game, you would play like a bunch of douches too! Due to the fact that the Oil shit the bed last game, I would expect them to come out for this one...and then promptly shit the bed again next game. Wouldn't you think that this team would get tired of answering the same questions?? We are stuck with Penner and Horcoff for a few more years so get used to it, crappy planning on behalf of last years management will dog us for a year or so yet and until we adopt the Detroit Red Wing philosophy of signing because you like it here and not trying to cash in, we will be dragged through the mud year after year!!
February 28 2009, 04:56PM
R-DAWG wrote:
I think the unfortunate part is that the Oiler fans have inherited a team of heartless millionaires!! To single out 1 player consistently is borderline retarded. I'm just as pissed as everyone else, but look at the big picture…if you made millions of dollars to play a game, you would play like a bunch of douches too! Due to the fact that the Oil shit the bed last game, I would expect them to come out for this one…and then promptly shit the bed again next game. Wouldn't you think that this team would get tired of answering the same questions?? We are stuck with Penner and Horcoff for a few more years so get used to it, crappy planning on behalf of last years management will dog us for a year or so yet and until we adopt the Detroit Red Wing philosophy of signing because you like it here and not trying to cash in, we will be dragged through the mud year after year!!
I agree with you that we have inherited a team of heartless millionaires. As for singling out just Dustin Penner, there are many more players on the Oilers who are under-performing.
With all these players under-performing, the Oilers have a coaching problem. I believe with most of these players the right coach could get much more effort out the them. A fresh approach is needed desperately. I would like to see the Oilers management change the coaching staff instead of yet another trade to try and fix the team's woes.However I am not holding my breath that Oilers' management will change and do this. It is going to take Mr. Katz.
Yep, throw some more stats out because...well, all you have is stats to go on. Quite frankly Jonathan, it's pretty obvious that you've never skated a shift in your life. And if so, it couldn't have been at a competitive level.
Either that, or you're just choosing to ignore what is blatantly obvious to everyone else who watches Dustin Penner play. He has all the tools to be a monster of a power forward: size, hands, natural skill, offensive instincts. What he doesn't have, and it's all too apparent when watching him play, are essential elements: grit, physicality, effort, motivation, consistency, hustle.
Here are the only numbers that I need to look at to know that Penner is crap: 29 points, $4.25 MIL in salary. End of discussion.
anyone know the lines tonight?
February 28 2009, 05:06PM
@ GSC: So what you're saying is that having played hockey is a prerequisite to having an opinion? By that rationale, if you've never run for office you have no right to criticize the government.
February 28 2009, 05:07PM
A first line centre, Horc to the second line, a minor tweek or two and this team may have some potential. Oh I forgot a coaching staff with little or no previous ties to Oilers.
This is a perfect example of how stats are misleading. Penner was INVISIBLE against Columbus.
And he hasn't even completed his 3rd season in the league.
Should he have said "no" the Lowe's offer?
I am sure he knew he wasn't ready for that kind of contract - but I doubt any human being alive would have turned it down.
This is a guy that wasn't even drafted into the NHL and has been forced into a first line NHL role.
Do you really expect him to be dominant player right now?
You can be mad at Lowe for giving him the money but I suggest you forget about his salary and focus on his development as a young player.
@ Wej:
Wej wrote:
This is a perfect example of how stats are misleading. Penner was INVISIBLE against Columbus.
As opposed to which other stand out players?
February 28 2009, 05:33PM
Wej wrote:
This is a perfect example of how stats are misleading. Penner was INVISIBLE against Columbus.
That's probably because he played less than MacTavish's two favorite LW's - Ethan Moreau and Erik Cole.
And no, I'm not mistaken on that - Craig MacTavish bumped Cole back to 1st line LW.
GSC wrote:
Yep, throw some more stats out because…well, all you have is stats to go on. Quite frankly Jonathan, it's pretty obvious that you've never skated a shift in your life. And if so, it couldn't have been at a competitive level. Either that, or you're just choosing to ignore what is blatantly obvious to everyone else who watches Dustin Penner play. He has all the tools to be a monster of a power forward: size, hands, natural skill, offensive instincts. What he doesn't have, and it's all too apparent when watching him play, are essential elements: grit, physicality, effort, motivation, consistency, hustle. Here are the only numbers that I need to look at to know that Penner is crap: 29 points, $4.25 MIL in salary. End of discussion.
Right.... have a gander some time and look up who the Minnesota Wild hired as their director of hockey operations.
As a matter of fact, I have played hockey, but I don't think that it's neccessary to have played professional hockey to understand the game. It's not rocket science.
Incidentally, of that list of six things, how many did Todd Bertuzzi have in his prime in Vancouver? Grit - OK, physicality - yes, effort - occasionally, motivation - sometimes, though he floated, consistency - god no, hustle - rarely. Yet, most consider him to have been at the very least a good power forward.
You know who does have all those elements? Ethan Moreau. Unfortunately, Moreau doesn't have a top-end (or really, even medium-end) offensive game, and he does have a penchant for stupid penalties.
As for why I toss out the numbers, I do it because I like to back up my opinion with evidence. I could have said that "Dustin Penner wasn't the problem in Columbus because I thought he played a good game", but "I thought he played a good game" holds relatively little weight. Much like your comment.
Let's be totally honest here, Penner should be named Casper.
February 28 2009, 05:37PM
Terry Jones ran Poti out of town. He's with the Sun. Rob Tychkowski is trying to run Penner out of town. I'm sick of this crap.
The other day Ludzik on the score called Penner a sloth. What right to people in the media have to call players names.


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For developers it is often convenient to have all tools necessary for their work in one place, ideally on a laptop for maximum mobility.
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HA Clusters are often perceived as complex to setup and resource hungry in terms of hardware requirements.
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DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. -- The fabricators working overtime to reshape sheet metal at Sprint Cup shops in the Charlotte, N.C., area might disagree, but NASCAR was pleased with the results of Preseason Thunder.
The three-day test at Daytona International Speedway wrapped up Saturday with 21 teams turning mostly single-car laps in preparation for next month's Speedweeks that leads into the Daytona 500 on Feb. 24.
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Matt Kenseth paced Saturday morning's session with a 194.062-mph lap ahead of Trevor Bayne (193.686) and Danica Patrick (193.648). Single-car speeds were slightly higher than last year's test, and pack drafting was a little slower.
Though a 12-car crash Friday afternoon effectively ended the opportunity for simulating race conditions Saturday, vice president of competition Robin Pemberton said the test still provided plenty of opportunity to glean information and insight about the Gen 6 car that makes its debut this season.
The model has been hailed for an emphasis on brand identity that will bring the race cars more aesthetically attuned to their showroom counterparts. But there also have been tweaks to the aerodynamics and safety features, some of which were measured during the test. None of the cars got airborne during the multicar crash, which Pemberton noted was a good barometer of the improved roof flaps that are designed to keep cars on the ground.
"All in all, I think the test has progressed nicely," he said. "Teams looked to be where their speeds need to be. Even with an incident, it was a good opportunity to look at the components they've built, the composite pieces, and how everything worked.
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Because supplies of hoods and deck lids for the new car are low, some teams were unable to bring backups to Daytona and were planning to use the same car in a Jan. 17-18 test at Charlotte Motor Speedway that's expected to attract the entire circuit.
Pemberton hadn't heard of any teams being unable to answer the bell at Charlotte because of Friday's crash. He said a shipping schedule would be implemented next Friday for the efficient delivery of deck lids (which come from a NASCAR-approved supplier) to ensure teams' fleets would be in good shape when the series leaves the season opener at Daytona for a western swing through Phoenix International Speedway and Las Vegas Motor Speedway.
"It's just a fact there is a lack of inventory," Pemberton said. "We know where we're at. We should be in good shape by the time we get through Speedweeks."
Pemberton is expecting the Daytona 500 pole speed in the 196-mph range (last year's pole was 194.738 mph by Carl Edwards).
After tinkering with restrictor-plate sizes to reign in speeds last year, NASCAR made no changes to its plates during the test.
"We're in the ballpark" on speeds, Pemberton said. "We don't foresee any changes. It was spot-on."
NASCAR also was pleased with the reduction in bump drafting and the tandem drafting that was eradicated last year after fans complained vociferously about the practice.
Friday's pileup, which was triggered when Dale Earnhardt Jr.'s Chevrolet bumped Marcos Ambrose's Ford, indicated that bumpers don't align as well because of the different characteristics across manufacturers. That's a relief to NASCAR, which scrambled last year to change its cooling systems to eliminate tandems and had designed the new model with a de-emphasis on bump drafting.
"The cooling, inlets, softer springs and smaller spoiler … all those things were in consideration with putting on the best race possible," Pemberton said. "Push drafting became the thing you had to do a few years ago. When it was new, it was cool. After a couple of races, the coolness wore off it.
"When we worked on the package for this car, we took all those things into consideration, knowing it wouldn't be healthy for any of us. It didn't look good and didn't feel good, and even though there were a lot more lead changes, it just didn't feel right."
But with NASCAR fond of billing itself as a contact sport, it's expected drivers will risk bump drafting in the closing laps if it means a shot at winning the Daytona 500.
"When it comes down to the trophy, check and trophy queen, all bets are off," Pemberton said. "They'll do whatever they can to get there. That's what I expect. Dale Earnhardt said he'd run over his mother a long, long time ago to get that trophy. I'd expect business to pick up late in the race."
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