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Skip to comments.Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 8 June 2014
Posted on 06/08/2014 4:47:38 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
The Talk Shows
June 8th, 2014
Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:
FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Former Attorney General Michael Mukasey, former Vice Chief of Staff of the Army, Gen. Jack Keane.
MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Pre-empted by coverage of the French Open.
FACE THE NATION (CBS): Sens. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., and Saxby Chambliss, R-Ga.
THIS WEEK (ABC): Reps. Mike Rogers, R-Mich., and Tom Cole, R-Okla.; Seattle Mayor Ed Murray.
STATE OF THE UNION (CNN): Secretary of State John Kerry; Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz.
12:00 PM - 1:00 PM NBC's "Meet the Press"
1:00 PM - 2:00 PM ABC's "This Week"
2:00 PM - 3:00 PM "Fox News Sunday"
3:00 PM - 4:30 PM CNN's "State of the Union"
4:30 PM - 5:00 PM CBS's "Face The Nation"
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Now listen to me! Send back your fellow countrymen you have taken as prisoners, for the LORDs fierce anger rests on you. 2 Chron 28:11
My sources inside the White House have given an interesting timeline of how and why the Bergdahl release happened the way it did. This was a bigger strategy to appease the Muslim Brotherhood by releasing some of their key people and satisfy the anti-Gitmo crowd. Inside sources say this really got in motion a couple weeks before Memorial Day. Everyone was called to the Oval Office and had to wait for an extra long prayer session to end when Valarie Jerrett called the meeting to order and announced they would be putting together a surprise visit to Trashcanistan over Memorial Day to really stick it in the backs of our soldiers.
Nobody in the room knew why they were going to Kabul, but she laid out the basics of the plans she had leading up to the release. Apparently, the CIA director of Kabul was dead set against the idea so they decided to accidentally release his name to the press and have him silenced and replaced by one of their own to make the deal happen. They would also take an additional fifty million in walking around cash to pay off the Taleeeban to go along with the release of Bergdahl. This money would of course be used for the improvement of villages and especially those air defense and weapon parts of the village.
So the plan was put in place and he went to Kabul where he put on the Bush routine like he was trying to excite the troops when in reality he was seriously undermining their mission. Apparently, President Karzai did not go along with releasing the leaders of the Taleeeban since his neck was the one on the line so he snubbed the invitation knowing what was coming. They pleaded with him to show and make the photop complete, but Hamid sent him a letter accusing the President of massive corruption by showing the troops he cared while emboldening their enemies at the same time. He explained how the troops were now going to be targets for capture and negotiation for the terrorists and this was a reckless move. Apparently, there are some things even Karzai will not do?
There were also meetings while they were in Kabul with the Mooselimb Brotherhood directly with Jarrett and their leaders to install a coalition gummit between the Brotherhood and the Taliban. They will be calling this the Afghan Spring 2.0 and have great hope for the overthrow of the Karzai regime within days of our withdrawal if not before. They were also the negotiators with the Taliban for the release of our prisoners while Jarrett was actually on the ground. She was trying to have them take twenty but could only get them to agree to a maximum of five. Once she had those details taken care of she simply turned off the teleprompter, loaded him back in the plane and flew home for the final details of the release.
When they got back to the US they were met with the VA death lists blowing up in their faces. She knew that they would eventually be found out, but they believed it was a brilliant way to lower costs and these were not real people anyway. After all, they were only old worn out soldiers that had no redeeming value to elitists like her who have been oppressed by an unfair White privilege system. So what if they stop treatments for people who were going to likely die after the treatment anyway, so save the money for those who were younger.
When that turned against them, they decided to move the release date forward and get all the accolades for bringing home a POW. Of course he was a deserter which made the release all that much better for the administration. This was like releasing a POW who was also a anti-war protester to bring back the anti-Bush crowd and fire up his worshipers.
They believed their rabid anti-American allies in the media and other Marxist activist groups would be rejoicing and put them back on track as champions of the little guy. Unfortunately for them, they got Swift Boated and his fellow soldiers spoke out and explained what a dirtbag he was. Yes, they had reports he searched out the Taleeeban and explained how to compromise our tactics, but he was going to be the next Yawn Kerry and have the Marxists all rallying around them. That idea got torpedoed by some of his platoon mates who reminded enough Americans of what loyalty and trust was about and how important that is in the military.
Americans remembered back to a time before Obama when being an American meant something noble and this event brought that memory back to their minds and have now dismissed this as another incompetent move by a corrupt and incompetent President.
Jarrett and Co have gone to their favorite playbook of vilifying the American soldiers, but that page has been used like Bear Bryant calling the halfback off right tackle. Sure they came up with the catchphrase, Leave no man behind, but tell that to Ambassador Stevens and the soldiers in Benghazi making it sound more like, this man is covering my behind!
His problem now is when he gets into his sanctimonious lecture mode people are beginning to ax what have you accomplished. It is easy to lecture when everyone assumes you know what youre talking about and expect results it is another when everyone knows you an absolute joke and a bad one at that. This may be the least effect CEO to ever occupy the oval office by leaps and bounds. When the deal was announced of trading one deserter for five very dangerous terrorists for no apparent reason it just underlined to the world that this bozo just is not and never has been ready for prime time. Now whenever he starts to lecture America how unfair or corrupt it is most Americans will be thinking talk is cheap, but he has nothing to show he can back all those words up.
My sources say the White House is basically in meltdown mode as internal polls are in a free fall. They were expecting a bit of a bump and some hoping their media could spin this into a Bin Laden victory and get the other scandals off the news and it is just the opposite. They are furious at the soldiers who came forward and knowing this has made a bad situation even worse. Everyone except the President knows he is now a pariah to the party. It is one thing if you are a bad CEO for GM or a Wall Street bank where all that is damaged is your company. When you cant pour piss out of a boot with instructions on the heel and you are the President of the United States, the worlds safety and health is endangered. Now the world has to fight for survival over the next three years while this corrupt know nothing stumbles from one crisis to the next hoping he doesnt cause a world disaster.
Pray America wakes up
Note: The above opinion is not necessarily my own, but FReeper Brays. If you wish to discuss this, please ping Bray.
John McCain says if everyone knew everything, it would have never happened. Also, notes the sunset on the right to fight (which is the law under which we hold captives) was just extended a few days before the release.
Good morning all, AB
Thank you AB for doing this thread.
Daughter had PFA hearing. Husband stood up and told judge he WAS GOING BACK TO HIS HOUSE today!
Judge pointed finger at him and said "You are going nowhere, son".
That house is my and my daughter's name. I paid for it and of course I didn't put it in his name.
He has NO job, no driver's license. He has a wonderful life at that house not his. He gets to sleep all day, drink all night, rape his wife, abuse his child and tell me to shove my Jeep where the sun don't shine.
Narcissistic as all get out and this is something I'm learning about. Narcissistic people are so out of touch with reality .like, say, just to keep it a little on topic, President Obama.
Anyway, judge told son-in-law to go get a lawyer and come back next week. So daughter's life on hold another week.
He's not coming back to that house, write it down.
Anyway, my column on PFA's in Delaware cause don't you know...well it's a great story, read it guys.
John Atkins is a nut job on the loose. Pete Schwatzkopf .deal with your guy, YOU WANTED HIM! Heather Atkins gets PFA. Let's talk about PFA's. Mine own daughter got one a week ago. I am now an expert.
I like your post....wondering who your WH sources are. I'd like to cultivate a few.
I don't believe this Bergdahl thing was part of an effort to improve PR due the VA scandal.
I believe the administration paid big bucks to the Hokkani tribe, forgive my spelling....to get Bergdahl back just to fill the Democratic coffers with cash for the upcoming mid-term elections.
They know the peeps are going to vote against them big time. The Democrats told Obama that they're going to start dropping him big time so Obama(Jarrett) told them that their election coffers would soon be full, hang in there.
They knew the Bergdahl story would come out. Oh I've no doubt that they planned to play it up, to make like they were releasing a hero.
But it was all to get money for the Democrats, I don't know how they're laundering the money. They were using the VA to launder money, other methods right under our nose.
I think they were desperate to keep the Democrats from bolting so they pulled this stunt and paid money for Bergdahl and GOT money for those five terrorists, I don't know from where but that's how the deal went as I see it.
What do they have to lose? Obama is now a lame duck and he knows he will never be impeached, even if he raped a boy scout on national TV.
They never cared for America's safety. What boob would announce when they will withdraw from hostilities....what idiot does this? Big Arab oil money pouring into Democratic coffers cause the Mooselimbs want to take over the world.
The administration knows the Republicans won't do anything. Lindsay Graham, you got to smile, came out and said, I am not making this up, that if Obama does this AGAIN there will be impeachment proceedings.
Say what?
Why must he do it AGAIN? Why are there not impeachment proceedings now?
Not saying it's the thing to do but every abuse woman or man, even Ruling Class slick-haired, spit-shined shoe Republicans, reaches a height when they will take no more.
One of these days the Republicans will take a stand cause guys, there's a slew of things they can do.
And yet all they do is threaten impeachment for the NEXT time.
I'd be careful about "Whitehouse sources". Just keep in mind they are all in the enemy camp, bar none.
I'd have been much nicer.
I think President Obama is taking a calculated risk with the Bergdahl situation, but he didn't count on social media and the Internet overrunning him in no time flat. This is the type of thing that could haunt the Democrats in the 2014 Congressional elections.
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Thanks for the thread A.B. All FReepers should order their Kindle version of Bray's excellent new book "The Republic of Texas 2022" which has jumped a whole dollar in price since last week:
With all due respect, the Haqquani Network pays nobody money for anything. They are a criminal Mafioso type of organization who just so happens to use the Taliban as their private army as long as they can convince the Taliban they are working in their best interests.
My take is that the Haqquani Network, or some body/group has the goods on the phoney bologna persona everyone has been sold as to the true "who is he" of one BHO. With the crap storm they were expecting over this whole deal, just imagine why they would even venture this direction in the first place.
We know that these particular five have been the subject of at lest two other release attempts made by this administration. There is someone else driving the reasons for these five and they have a huge bargaining chip in the game. The Congress on both previous attempts have shot it down big time, ergo the reasons why they had to exact the unilateral move this time. The biggest unanswered question is why?
May I speculate that for now years the administration has been promising the holders of his dirty secrets that they would get Congress to approve this. Finally, the holders have run out of patience, especially since there is a great chance the Democrats will no longer hold the upper house after this next election and they called in their markers.
Give them to us now, or we spill the beans. The money exchange was not with the Haqquanis giving us anything, it was instead we gave them the money. It has been rumored it is at least 5 Mil but this dirty little secret will also be known one day as well.
Whatever communications the Taliban or the Haqquanis were having with Bergdahl's father, must be though to equate when Andy Dufresne kept sending those letters to the state legislature about his Shawshank library needs. They finally got tired of the letters and sent boxes of books and some money. Apparently, there was no propaganda or PR to be extracted any longer from this loser so they decided it was time for him to go and the "Five" was a convenient excuse. Does anyone wonder why being that the "Five" were released five days before Bergdahl was?
They got their five leaders back and they don't have to baby sit this loser anymore. Plus they got paid for their efforts.
I guess I remain in the minority of believing 0zero is not as smart as many believe.
One really interesting revelation you write is that money was involved in the release of Bergdahl. I hope that gets verified at some point. Rumors alluded to that but I have not seen it verified. What I heard was we had a choice of trading people or money for Bergdahl and chose to give them the five terrorists. If we gave money as well, that's even worse since we didn't have to do it.
I heard same things you have, including from Lt Col Ollie North saying we gave $5 Million to Haqqani tribe (but he seemed to be speculating). Of course that is chump change in this rarefied atmosphere.
Also meant to comment. Swiftboating for Democrats suggests lies were told to hurt a candidate or liberal. Swiftboating for conservatives means something different. It means the truth came out to expose the lies the swiftboated person was claiming.
Putting out the truth is what happened to Kerry and it's what's happening now to Bergdahl. Who to believe? 0bama, Valerie Jerrett or Susan Rice or the guys who served with Bergdahl? It's not difficult, I'll go with the guys who were there and not the spin-meisters in the White House who are proven liars.
I was so glad to see your many references to Valerie(val/jar) Jarrett taking over the reigns of the job of potus. Many of us have speculated that she is the point man and always has been.
I've read quite a bit on "the Bowe/crazy ol' man/four major terror types one minor trade story."
One thing that keeps popping up in what I have read goes sort of like this.
It was actually the Haqqani terror group that stole Bowe from some locals as they are always out to make a fast buck and saw him as a vehicle. The two groups Haqqani/Taliban are different but are allies.
The Haqqani number about 10-15,000 and originated in the 70's with their founder Jahaludin Haqqani. He received a bit or notoriety by mentoring none other than OBL during the Afghani war with the Ruskies. He also go lots of training and bucks from our CIA in the 80's as Russia slowly lost their asses to groups like the Taliban and Haqqani.
Fast forward to today and the Haqqanis are now run defacto by Jallaludin's son Sirajuddin who is every bit as slick as the father.
These guys have emissaries in Riyadh who constantly suck up Saudi oil bucks in the name of terror and sharia. In addition they have their own legit businesses,are active in playing the protection racket with smaller businesses, are always on the lookout to make a quick buck and are often described as 80% Soprano and 20% terrorists.If you stop and think about it if you transplanted the Chicago thugocracy into Afghanistan you would get the Haqqani. They are so alike.
Anyway its very possible that the Haqqani held Bowe boy and negotiated the deal that got them quite possibly the 50 million you suggest. My guess is the Haqqani kept the dough and eagerly gave up the four main terror types and one little leaguer to other Taliban types in Qatar. That would kick up their prestige in the area even more than it already is.That never hurts when you have so many head cutters in one area.
They are undoubtedly still celebrating over in Qatar with ten year ol' boys being passed around while they shoot AK's into the air whooping it up terror style. One high ranking Pakistani official once described terror types in the region as we are stuck with the crazies and Afghanistan has the Haqqani an obvious reference to their many skills.
So its quite likely that Jarrett negotiated a 50 million buck five terror type deal for our one deserter.She then tried to ginn up a big PR moment for the won and then sent him packing quickly before the crap hit the fan.
The 0bama Brotherhood thought they'd have a home run with the public and it turns out to be a strikeout as far as voters know. Maybe this time the media won't be able to save his nasty ass.
My daughter is 37.
I tell her all the time that I am sure she will meet a nice fellow in the future.
Of course she says she's not interested in men. I remind her of all the men hanging around my house but don't tell anybody I said that.
I'd love for her to meet a nice guy cause of all four of my husbands, two who died and one who left me...only one did I really divorce by my choice....of them all I tell Melissa....EVERYONE OF THEM WERE BETTER THAN MIKE!
First thing, don't even go out on a date with a guy WITHOUT A JOB!
Now I know jobs are scarcer under Obamer but don'r forget that we live in a resort area, people are begging for help from the locals. Further, we have buses running up and down to the ocean all day so he could even work without a damn driver's license.
But why work? He has no rent to pay. Somehow he got an earned income credit last year of over $4K, I just don't know how that works. He also got unemployment last year from Merryland that he did not deserve.
THESE are the people getting all these gubmint free rides, folks. Assholes like my son-in-law.
But I myself paid almost $15K in federal and state taxes last year so it is, right in front of mine eyes, wealth re-distribution.
Oh, did I tell you he wets the bed when he gets drunk, which is every night, and goes out to crack parties (which somehow he manages to get a ride to never mind a job) every chance he gets?
Guy is bad news, man I have NEVER liked him, not a whit.
Daughter now has a backbone cause to put up....well she says, and HIS whole family says, she did it because she now has a place to live-the house I bought her-and they think that's awful.
How she supposed to leave him with no place to live? And, of course I fully expected that she'd kick him out once she was near me with a house of her own.
Which she did but do not think that was her plan when she, her daughter, and her husband moved here. She very much wanted the marriage to succeed, what with me across the street to help with child and no bother with rent.
Mike wanted his wonderful life where, did I tell ya....he sleeps all day, drinks all night, rapes his wife, abuses his child and tells me to shove my Jeep up my ass?
Oh, they don't have a car, did I tell you?
UH oh this thread is in big trouble now,LOLOL!!
Thanks Shalom, I would hope those that read it would also write a review of the book on Amazon and give a rating. I am getting really great responses as people are loving the story and the messages in it. Most want to move to Texas.
Shalom Brother
mazda77 wrote the same thing. This whole thing is getting to be worse and worse as more is learned and these posers in the White House are exposed.
I don't think you are in such a small minority any more. It just makes good sense that someone who won't release his grades, can't run a lemonade stand is not very bright.
YAall y'all!
Bergdahl, Bergdahl, Bergdahl.
Impeach somebody.
Good Morning everyone and thanks for the ping and thread AB.
Personal opinion, I think you're absolutely correct. Great analysis, along with others on this board today.
I still believe the 0bots thought they would get positive PR from all this and it has backfired on them so far. It's also apparent 0zero wants to get as much done before the November election and they take office in January because the Democrats are going to lose the US Senate big time. IMHO.
Yes, by all means we must flood Amazon with good reviews, and we have to get this book into the hands of Glenn Beck, a big promoter of Texas and books like your.
They not only got rid of the five worst in Club Gitmo but assured that as we leave Afghanistan the Taliban would have all its major leadership back in place to try and undo what we have done there for many years now.
The enemy from within is who we fight. We need to remember that.
I vote for a massive jail break followed by "shot while trying to escape". Every single one of them.
Sorry! We couldn't have them running off into Cuba, could we?
Agree. It is endlessly expressed on this board that no matter what, "He will get away with it." It's easy to understand where that's coming from.
I wish folks would consider that this repeated defeatist rhetoric is not helpful in any way. It's actually aiding and abetting, in a way. If it were one or two occasional comments among a hundred - that's one thing. But lately, having read a lot (more than usual) the board seems overrun with...
Case in point: Allen West called for Articles of Impeachment. On the thread about that, multiple comments are posted, declaring the absolute impossibility of such. We cry out for leaders. Leader steps up. His message is derided. Cynicism will get us nowhere.
After watching the 0bama workout video, he appears to be ready for MMA (Mixed Martial Arts) after he's out of office.
I sent a copy directly to Glen Beck and haven't heard anything. We are going to follow up again next week.
As Hillary Clinton distances herself and checks out which way the wind blows, a commentary on FoxNews [I do no recall the name of the person talking] made some interesting points.
Clinton is now claiming that Obama refused to go along with her recommendations on several of these foreign policy issues.
Sticky wicket.
Does that mean Obama didn't think much of her advise, thus making her impotent or irrelevant? Is that why she actually accomplished litte as SoS?
By distancing herself, it appears that she really had little influence.
So, if she does run for the presidency, how does that play? How can she run against the Obama presidency while defending that she was a part of that administration during its first term?
But not much...he also deserves be hanged.
Wonderful post, and I agree with you. Don't give up the ship!
I too believe Obama and his administration is pathetically stupid.
However, the press in this country, whom I believe to be the REAL enemy, covers for him, builds a meme for him (smartest president) and continues to deride and smack Republicans.
WE HERE need to step up our game... Less talk, more rock. We all need to get out and do something this election. I'm canvassing for conservative votes and manning phones this year. I'm also writing letters to the editor on various rags pointing out media bias. THAT is fun and very often my letters are printed.
It's as if the regime is daring some of us to create violence somewhere, anywhere just so they can come after us.They want us to bail them out for all their misdeeds and perhaps declare Martial law or the equivalent.Almost happened at the BLM fiasco.
Sad thing is either way they win. If we do create violence anywhere they will spin it as crazy right wingers and the press will eat it up. If we don't create any stuff they will only accelerate what they are doing and the Cloward Piven effect will only spin out of control.Either way we lose.
The only possible stopping point for them would be negative press by the DBM and I don't see that happening. Anything to ginn up support for their misdeeds. Misdirection and lies: the Mothers milk of Alinskites.
In regard to McCain saying to close gitmo...a lot of politicians said that....but it didn't happen. It was something that was on the table.
Dear Pat,
Dead serious here. Does your daughter have and know how to use a serious firearm?
I know for a fact that that piece of paper won't stop a bullet.
Yeah in the gay olympics....
Recent pic of my daughter.
People need to get real as to when impeachment can and should be used and when it's folly. I personally would like to see more impeachments of lower level individuals to set the precedent.
There have been no impeachments of major figures for anything other than personal scandals. That was established by the Andrew Johnson impeachment and it's held true.
One has to discern what is political blustering and what is actionable.
Graham and McCain fall into the former. Is Feinstein for real or is she just blustering also?
Even if the House came up with Articles of Impeachment, Reid's Senate would table them. The only way Articles would ever be raised is if the Dems raised them. Otherwise, the Pubbies are seemingly intelligent enough to know that their raising them would be clouded of rancid charges of being RACIST!
I should add, I agree with Alan West.
RL (Larry)
My daughter says she will not have a firearm in her house but that was before asshole was kicked out.
So she has no gun inside BUT......not to fear....
I live right across the street. Son-in-law knows I have this gun, purchased and legally licensed in Delaware. I was trained in its use as well.
She is scared, Larry, kept saying the front door won't lock right when she leaves. SHE FIXED IT!
Also, granddaughter's bike's tire went flat. Daughter went to store, got a tube....and SHE FIXED IT!!!!
Son-in-law, in periods between hangovers and crack trips, would mow MY lawn, that's part of the deal.
I am so proud of her.
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Ten Points: Roster decisions, the magic bullet, and the Oilers as a small market club
Jonathan Willis
August 15 2012 11:48AM
1. Potter or Peckham? The Oilers face an interesting choice this fall (if there's hockey): do they keep both bubble defenders on the team and run with eight defencemen or do they trade one/try to slip one through waivers?
My vote was to trade Andy Sutton at the last deadline – purely because he's not a guy who is in the long-term picture due to age and he has some value – but since the Oilers didn't do that they now face a choice. I've long been a fan of Peckham and I think he can be a regular third-pairing guy if all goes right, but I don't think that limited upside makes it worthwhile to hang on to him. Potter's cheaper, not a penalty magnet, and has a wider range of skills, plus I think Peckham's nasty streak gives him some value on the market that Potter lacks. I'd prefer to see Peckham dealt, particularly since this situation is going to happen again next year when Oscar Klefbom makes the jump, and probably every year after for the foreseeable future.
2. How much leash does Khabibulin get? With the Oilers undoubtedly hoping to make big strides this year, what happens if Nikolai Khabibulin struggles early on? I tend to think that in the last year of his deal the team will be less patient – perhaps even willing to plug Yann Danis in as backup if the veteran Russian falters. On the other hand, this is a contract year for Khabibulin and by all accounts his workload is going to be lighter – I wouldn't be surprised if he turns in a serviceable performance as a backup goalie.
3. Magnus Paajarvi. There's no doubt in my mind that Magnus Paajarvi belongs in the NHL next season on merit. Derek Zona has been pushing this at the Copper and Blue and I think he's clearly right: Paajarvi's a more useful NHL'er than Lennart Petrell or Ben Eager, to name two current Oilers. My one worry is development: ideally, Paajarvi's offensive game develops, and I'm not convinced a depth role in the NHL (where he'd likely be consigned) would do that better than a top-six role in Oklahoma City. I'm more bullish on Paajarvi than most Oilers fans are, I think, and because of that I'd hate to see him consigned to a long-term checking role after one bad season where absolutely everything went wrong.
4. The statistical magic bullet. It doesn't exist. Some of the more doctrinarian members of the statistical community think that Corsi (suitably finessed to account for zone starts and team strength) gives all the information anyone needs to make a hockey decision, but that's simply not the case (an obvious example is the discussion here). Lots of things matter – some we know about, like role and linemates (again, looking at the Iginla example, look at the shift in Corsi with and without Jokinen and Bouwmeester – I'm not a Flames guy but it sure looks to me like role had a major impact on Iginla's disappointing season). Finishing ability – while difficult to sustain and overrated by analysts at large, in my opinion – still needs to be taken into account; dismissing it entirely is not sensible. Then there's the fact that things we don't know about matter. We can't compensate for what we don't know but humility is required – as new evidence becomes available, beliefs will need to shift, and the idea that we've got it all figured out because we know how many shots a player was on the ice for is crazy.
5. The Red Queen's Hypothesis. Named after a comment in the book Through the Looking-Glass, the Red Queen's hypothesis is a fancy term in evolutionary thought that basically conveys the idea of an arms race: species need to be constantly improving and adapting just to stay in the same place, relative to its peers. It's something that I think holds true for hockey: if a team isn't constantly improving, it's regressing. Some of that improvement – especially early on – can come from the maturation of young players, but over time clubs need to learn to use trades/free agency to augment an older core. That's the long-term concern with the Oilers' rebuild model, and something we've seen in some cities. Chicago, for example, has gone from a plus-48 team that went to the Conference finals to a plus-62 team that won the Cup to a plus-33 team that lost in the first round to a plus-10 team that lost in the first round. It doesn't happen to all teams that make the leap (Pittsburgh, to cite one example, has had some recent playoff flops but recorded more regular season wins in 2011-12 than they had in any other post-lockout season) but it does happen to teams that aren't able to continue to adapt after the young core comes off entry-level deals. Assuming the Oilers make the jump to contending team, will they be able to stay there? I don't have the answer to that question.
6. Scotty Bowman. Further on that last point, it also applies to coaching. Here's Chicago G.M. Stan Bowman talking about his dad's coaching style in the book Behind the Moves:
The one thing my dad's always been so good at, I think, is he's been able to adjust…. [F]or a guy who's 'old school' and has been around so long, he's incredibly progressive and willing to try new things, willing to do things which are not the norm, and that's what made him successful as a coach … he was very unpredictable … I think all coaches today are kind of – I don't want to say programmed – but they're led to do a certain thing. So if you can force yourself to try things maybe a little different or take a different approach, it's going to give you that advantage. Ironically I think what makes him so exceptional is that he didn't think he had all the answers…. I remember my dad would ask me – when I was in high school – after a game, 'What did you see? Well, what do you think is wrong?'… Sometimes, I would say things, and then in the next game [his team would] do it and I'd think, 'My God, he actually listened to what I had to say.'… He could care less where the idea came from. It really makes no difference to him. All he cares about is winning.
7. The only reason the Oilers can rebuild the way they have is thanks to the fans. This should be obvious. If, at the end of the day, the Oilers rebuild succeeds in creating an elite team, it will be thanks to the loyalty of fans, who have continued to pay good money year after year to watch a terrible NHL team. In other markets, a drop in attendance (and consequently a drop in revenue) would have forced a shorter rebuild.
8. The Oilers are a big-market team. The Edmonton Oilers are the seventh-most expensive team to watch in the entire NHL (warning: PDF). Despite this, and despite being a terrible hockey team, they sell out every night. How many markets in the league would support that? It doesn't matter how many people live in the city, or what the size of the potential television market is, or any of the rest of it: all that matters is the number of people willing to pay to watch hockey. It's higher in Edmonton than it is in the majority of NHL markets; ergo, the club is a big-market team.
9. It is in the Oilers' interest to appear to be a small-market club. The Edmonton Oilers are negotiating with the city for support in building a new arena. Naturally, the city wants to hang on to NHL hockey; it's easier for the Oilers to extract money if the perception is that there's some danger in relocating. Obviously, there's an incentive for the team's ownership to play up that risk. Of course, as we've just pointed out, a team that sells out the building despite prices well above average and a club well below average is pretty much a dream scenario for an NHL owner.
10. Donald Fehr's long-term goal. It's been suggested to me that the NHLPA's objective is to limit damage in this CBA negotiation and try to set things up for a decisive win the next time around. I don't think that's the case. I think the NHLPA needs to get into a position where they have leverage in CBA negotiations if they are to exist as a viable entity long-term; to do that, they need to create a scenario where the vast majority of owners are making money – because owners making money will lose more money every time there's a labour stoppage. The best way to do that is to stabilize small markets – hence the push for revenue sharing. Once all NHL teams are generating significant income, the league will have much less incentive to lockout players.
The question you did not post is does the owner finally want to see this version of the Oilers start to win games and compete game in, game out.
At this point it is difficult to determine. The only changes have been drafting Yak, being lucky enough to pick up Schultz the Younger in FA and replacing Renney with Krueger as head coach. Otherwise, it has been stand pat, again.
I hope we get some idea in training camp. If the roster constitutes the same old, same old, then we can prepare for another lottery pick and a disappointing season, sans playoffs, a version of the movie Groundhog Day.
No the owner does not!
August 15 2012, 10:19PM
Don't the business guys generally mean number of potential customers when they say "market size"? If true, it might help to make that distinction or else stop using the term "market size" if you're meaning "market value" or something similar.
I could be wrong about the terminology but it raises perhaps a useful point. A good company (with a monopoly in the market, but that's a whole nother issue) should be able to pull the most out of the market it's in, right? So if the Oilers are squeezing mega coin out of its base and the (recent cup winning) Bruins and Hawks are slumming it in the same general revenue neighbourhood, isn't it a little unfair to lump the Oilers into the "big market" rather than simply acknowledge that Edmonton IS a relatively small market but one in which the Oilers are knocking it out of the park?
I get that the Oilers are a "have" team, but if the point is still unclear, I invite you to compare the population and attendance figures for Edmonton in 1995 to the present day ones.
Totally agree on your assesment on Magnus . Everyone talks about signing Hall & Ebs and that needs done but the sleeper is Paarjarvi. Renney mishandled him last year and I for one hope Ralph does the right thing this year . He is still a potential top 6 or at worst top 9 . He is the type of player they could sign for about $ 2 mill and could be our best all around forward . Look at his Corsi . The guy needs a break and I would love to see him with Horc & Yak putting Smyth with RNH & Ebs . Oh well we will see but not untill January I think .
August 16 2012, 08:27AM
For two yrs now we've continued to try and hammer this square peg into a round hole. Paajarvi's just not a fit here. Not only is he one of the easiest players in the league to intimidate, his battle level is low and he's consistantly steering clear of the difficult areas on the ice. The Oilers have enough non confrontational players in their lineup.
Might not be a popular decision but the Oilers would probably be better off bringing JF Jacques back with the fab 5 here to support. Atleast he ventures into the areas Paajarvi dare not go.
The Oilers believed in Jacques, Quinn believed in Jacques, and now with a new team/coach/system, who knows what could be achieved. There's little doubt the Oilers need a JF Jacques type player rather than another soft underacheiver like Magnus. Jacques would certainly be an inexpensive training camp invitee experiment.
Can't believe my innermost thawts made its way into this entry.....this summer can't end soon enough.
You have gone to an all time low with that one. JF Jacques... Common
August 16 2012, 11:59AM
How about both?If we put system needs in front of contractual obligations then we could see anything,if system suitability is considered over past efforts and individual skill levels then we should see a wild-card line-up.But it doesnt look likely because management sees no upside in this evolutionary progressive pro-active approach,it is also expensive.
You just listed two of my favorite Oilers,both of whom I see as haveing valuable dimensions to any system.I believe Potters two dimensional approach to defense his understanding of transitions and his vision ran our team from the back end as a possesion/transition team that showed winning results,until our team definitively switched back to a hybrid system with Whitney that abandoned the detail to transitionary versatility that Potter was provideing at an elite level.Peckham was developeing a simple and effective but more importantly consistant stlye within the possesion/transition game as well,he was mastering the methods of createing dynamics throughout games that allowed him to use simple but effective zone clearing plays that his defensive partners could count on,he was turning into a very tough bookend for an offensive defenseman.And on top of that Peckham was showing signs of excellent coachability and adjusting his game consistantly as requested,never mind his team loyalty which is natural.
In terms of system suitability personell wise we need to experience a winning system to have the remotest idea of who we need and who we dont.System changes will bring the wins not personell changes.And then we can stabilise this dynamic we are in.
Khabybulin,is a pro who still has something left,if he can take the starters role from a backup start with some hot play great,but I believe that coaches need to put system needsfirst now and this means winning,so whoever is winning is playing if the goaltender is the system facet we identify as needing change,but that is unlikely as most times it isnt just that,it is system induced collapse that causes losses not goaltenders,a superior system makes a tenders job so easy we should rarely look to them for solutions,so i expect to see Dubby start and if our system is executed properly play the season out with Khabby in support till we trade him.
MPS,has all the offense he needs to play regularly in the NHL,in a properly executed offensive system he would score more and then his defensive elite skill would show more,Magnus is the beginnings of a two-way monster,he just needed another year of growing into his body and mind,one of these mornings he will wake up pissed off at people getting in his way--he needs to take it as an insult that opposition players think they can just take his path away makeing him yield on the bridge--and hopefully that feeling wont go away until after games are over.Then he will have arrived on every level,as with everyone else if magnus can provide what the system requires he will stay and this system understanding will be a bigger decideing factor than his physical skills or size.
Scotty Bowmans story is 100% exactly why I reccomend that the Oilers try out the NewAge Hockey System,I created it based on the same pro-active vision that enabled those timely reactionary moves,the only price you pay to try something new is a mistake,and those are part of any game so the gain always outweighs the risk when trying something BRAND NEW and untried.
The NewAge System was designed to create a pure offensuve 60 minute dynamic designed to provide an opportunity for players to cumulatively and individually break scoreing records in the NHL.Averageing 45 shots and four plus goals per game this is high octane offense.With the skill and talent we have we are in an position to define ourselves as winners by executeing this system for 82 games.And the NHS provides superior defensive results without the traditional focus.
The Majic bullet the Oilers need is something new to hockey and superior enough to suit the personell potential they posess.They need a system that can allow them as a group to take the next step,they need the NewAge System.You need 45 shots per game and four plus goals to keep these types of players all happy,once that is done the wins will be stacked up behind the system sucess ,excecution-wise.
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CLEVELAND/WEST JORDAN-Lori Corrine Hayward Adams, passed away peacefully in her home with her family by her side, on May 3, 2009 after a long battle with cancer. She was a loving wife, mother, grandmother and a very devoted nurse.
Lori was born Aug. 24, 1955 in Mt. Home, Idaho, the first child of Ward D. and Claudette Averett Hayward. She spent her early childhood growing up in Lark, Utah, before moving with her family to Emery County, Utah.
Lori married Larry L. Adams, Feb. 2, 1973 in Cleveland, Utah. Their marriage was later solemnized in the Manti LDS temple. She and Larry were blessed to be the parents of seven wonderful children: Tom, Robert, Douglas, Kelly and Elizabeth, later adopting Briana and Jordan.
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She finally moved her family to West Jordan, Utah and served as a Director of Nursing at Federal Heights, Holladay Nursing Home and lastly Wasatch Nursing and Rehab. With all of her experience working in nursing homes she also earned her Administrators License. Lori loved helping people and enjoyed working in home health.
Lori's Patriarchal Blessing stated that she would touch the lives of many people, and this she did. She was a very generous person always willing to extend a helping hand to anyone. She will be missed dearly by her family and all those who knew and loved her.
She is survived by her husband: Larry L. Adams of West Jordan, Utah; children: Thomas (Diana) Adams of Heber, Utah, Robert (Rhonda) Adams of Bloomfield, N.M., Douglas (Cora) Adams of Price, Utah, Kelly (Johnny) Farnsworth of West Jordan, Utah, Elizabeth Adams of West Jordan, Utah, and youngest daughters Briana and Jordan Adams of West Jordan, Utah; 12 grandchildren: Marcus, Michal, Tayler, Amber, Kristen, Dillon, Micha, Tanisha, Tysen, Korben, Kayden, and KateLynn; mother: Claudette Hayward of Castle Dale, Utah; brothers: Jeff (Dina) Hayward of Castle Dale, Utah, and Nathan Hayward of Price, Utah; sisters: Nikki Hayward of Castle Dale, Utah, Melissa (Tom) LaRoque of Billings, Mont., and Carleen Hayward of Price, Utah; and numerous nephew and nieces. She is preceded in death by her father Ward D. Hayward.
Funeral Services will be held Thursday, May 7, 2009 at 11 a.m. at the Castle Dale Third Ward Chapel-165 West 800 North. Viewing will be Wednesday, May 6, 2009 from 6-8 p.m. at Fausett Mortuary-720 North Center Street-Castle Dale, Utah, and Thursday, May 7, 2009 from 9:30-10:45 a.m. at the church prior to the service. Interment will be in the Castle Dale City Cemetery.
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"They all could tell that Teddy is a guy who never has a bad day. How can you not love a guy like that?"
In a Reds season of mostly sweetness and light, maybe the sweetest and lightest thing of all happened on Aug. 17.
A young man with Down syndrome who really wasn't supposed to be the batboy – not in the typical sense of the word, anyway – put some spring in the Reds' steps.
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The remarkable thing wasn't that Teddy Kremer retrieved bats and foul balls and brought baseballs to the home plate umpire, it is that he did it with such aplomb, gusto and unbridled joy.
But if you know Ted – that's what he likes being called, even though everybody calls him Teddy – it wasn't remarkable at all.
Teddy was just being himself.
When Cheryl gave birth to Teddy, she was told the next day by the doctor that her son would likely never smile, probably wouldn't talk, might not walk, and would never have more than a 40 IQ.
Those were tough words to hear, but Cheryl and her husband, Dave, were both in education, and they weren't about to let what somebody said turn into a self-fulfilling prophecy.
By two weeks old, Teddy got occupational therapy at the pediatrician's office so that he wouldn't be floppy-legged. By five weeks, he was exposed to music at the Breyer School in Colerain Township, to which he clapped his hands, and looked in the mirror and was taught to look up, to strengthen his neck muscles.
By 13 months, he was in speech training, and soon he was matching colors and being taught to play with toys. Shortly after that, a teacher told the Kremers to "take him out, because Down syndrome kids mimic what they see, and if they don't see it, they aren't going to progress."
By age 3, he was included in the regular classes at Mercy Montessori in East Walnut Hills, and he began swimming. And, oh, did Teddy Kremer progress. He walked, he talked, he smiled broadly. His personality began to emerge. By 7 he was swimming for the Mercy team.
At 16, he enrolled at Colerain High – again, in classes right along with the other kids, math and science and social studies and home economics and keyboarding at the vocational program – and competed on the swim team ("freestyle and backstroke," he recalls, proudly) and was named student-coach on the teams for baseball and football, including the state grid champions in 2004. He rides horses on Monday nights, plays softball on Tuesday nights, does ballroom dancing on Wednesday nights, swims on Saturdays.
"I've always been around athletes my whole life," he says.
He does clerical work three days a week at Hillcrest School in Springfield Township. He reads The Enquirer, follows closely the local sports team, knows as much if not more about them than anybody. He's a diehard, easily reduced to sobs by an ill-timed loss.
So, when his parents attended a fundraiser last March at Mercy Montessori where the children of Phil Castellini, the Reds chief operations officer, attended, and they saw that one of the silent auction items was a night as a Reds batboy, they couldn't resist.
Yes, the opportunity was listed for "age 15 to 19." They asked Castellini if Teddy might be considered.
"He's 29, but he acts like he's 15 sometimes," Cheryl explained.
"Put in your bid, and if it wins," Phil promised Cheryl, "we'll make it happen."
'How can you not love a guy like that?'
On Aug. 5, the Kremers were asked to come to Great American Ball Park so that Ted could meet Phil Castellini and Reds equipment manager Rick Stowe.
Before that, Stowe had met with Castellini's executive assistant, Diana Busam.
Stowe is a warm, effervescent, fun-loving guy, but he's also steeped in the rituals of the clubhouse and dugout, and he wondered aloud about the wisdom of injecting anything offbeat into it. The Reds had done honorary batboys before games, but rarely during it, maybe once or twice a year tops, he told The Enquirer.
"C'mon, Diana, we're not going to start a three-ring circus out there, are we?" asked Stowe. "We're in a pennant race."
"Let's just see first," Busam replied. "Let's meet him and see where we are."
Luke Stowe – Rick's son and the team's regular batboy – gave Ted a tour of the stadium. They happened upon one of the Reds broadcasters.
"Oh my God – Jim Kelch!" blurted out Ted, giving Kelch a hug.
Ted also met Marty Brennaman.
"You look pretty good without hair," Ted told him.
Ted walked by the Reds' video room and saw a familiar face inside.
"Hey, Brook Jacoby!" Ted exclaimed, giving him a hug.
Luke gave Reds officials – including his dad – the big thumbs-up on Ted as batboy.
Meanwhile, the Reds players wanted to know, hey, who's the new kid on the block?
"Teddy already knew everybody, apparently from what he'd read and seen on TV," Rick Stowe said. "Drew Stubbs fell in love with him. Todd Frazier, Brandon (Phillips), Wilson Valdez, Heisey, Bruce, Votto, Dusty (Baker). Everybody. They all could tell that Teddy is a guy who never has a bad day. How can you not love a guy like that?"
Ted was outside the Reds clubhouse talking to Phil Castellini when another man approached. Cheryl Kremer didn't recognize him.
"Mr. Castellini!" Ted exclaimed, holding out his hand and introducing himself to Bob Castellini, the Reds chief executive officer.
"You're doing a great job with the ballclub," Ted told the Reds owner.
Enjoy life, be yourself and play hard
On the night of Aug. 17, the Kremers returned to the ballpark. Dave and Cheryl didn't know quite what to expect.
Ted had a few questions.
"Mr. Stowe, do I have to wear this helmet?"
Rick Stowe: "How about this, Teddy? I'll make you a deal. You wear that helmet when we're up to bat. When the other team's batting, you can sit on the bench with the players, and you don't have to wear the helmet."
During the national anthem, Dave and Cheryl stood with hands over thumping hearts as Teddy stood between Reds manager Dusty Baker and outfielder Chris Heisey outside the Reds dugout. The Kremers watched as Ted mistakenly removed his Reds cap with his left hand and held the cap over his heart.
"The other hand," Heisey said softly, as Ted picked up the cue and moved his right hand to the cap, and repositioned it over his heart.
On his right arm was a black wristband, a gift from Todd Frazier.
When it came time to go out for the pregame meeting to exchange lineups, Dusty Baker didn't tell Teddy what was up.
All he said was, "Bring these four balls to the umpire, Teddy."
And that is how Ted found himself at home plate, with Baker's arm around him and Baker introducing him to the umpires, shaking their hands one-by-one, a big grin on his face. Ted's parents looked on in wonder.
Early in the game, Ted went out to retrieve a bat. Who should pass Ted on the way back to the dugout than No. 4, Brandon Phillips, on his way to the plate. Ted gave him a hard high five, causing Phillips to bat with a grin as Ted continued on his way to bat rack.
Whose bat was it, Ted? Ted mentally flipped through the Reds batting order that night, which was the order so many nights when Votto was out with a knee injury.
"Let's see," he pondered. "Cozart ... Stubbs ... Phillips. It was Stubbs' bat, the second hitter."
Later, Phillips explained his delight over Ted's exuberance.
"People are blessed in their own way," said the Reds second baseman. "Teddy came in here and blessed us with his energy and his presence that day: Enjoy life, be yourself, go out and play hard. Give it all you got. That's Teddy. He's a reminder to us all."
When Frazier hit a towering home run in the fourth inning to score Bruce, Frazier circled the bases and, upon entering the Reds' dugout, bellowed, "C'mon, Teddy, give it to me!" And player and batboy exchanged a big hug.
Bat boy Ted Kremer asked Reds third baseman Todd Frazier to hit him a homer in the sixth inning of Thursday's game against the Marlins. Frazier complied, giving the Reds an 11-1 lead.
Reds pitcher Mike Leake came down to the clubhouse to get something during the game and ran into Stowe.
"I've only got a second," Leake told Stowe. "I gotta get back to Teddy."
With two outs to go in the top of the ninth and the Reds leading 7-3, Teddy began to applaud at the prospect of certain victory. Joey Votto, in uniform but out of action with a knee injury, sat down next to Teddy.
"We wait until we get three outs before we count this one as a win," said Votto, gently.
Teddy took the hint and waited for the final out.
And what did Votto tell you then, Teddy?
"He said, 'I love you, Ted. Thank you for everything.'"
Powerade and bubblegum
Years from now, Reds players will remember the Cuban Missile emerging as their closer, rookies Todd Frazier and Zach Cozart having their coming-out parties and the Reds' five starting pitchers somehow miraculously not missing a turn. The player will also remember a 22-3 stretch, much of it while Votto was out.
But they'll remember something else, too. They'll remember the night they met Teddy Kremer.
"He's always smiling, always joking, always having fun," Heisey says. "Everybody likes being around somebody like that. He's cool. I wish he'd come back more."
The Reds, who were down 3-1 going into the fourth inning, went ahead 6-3 on home runs by Ryan Ludwick and Frazier, and back-to-back extra-base hits by Cozart and Stubbs. Jay Bruce added an insurance homer in the fifth. Jose Arredondo, Jonathan Broxton and Aroldis Chapman closed out the quality start by Bronson Arroyo.
Teddy knuckle-rapped with manager Baker, who pulled the lineup card from the dugout wall – the card by which Baker manages the comings and goings of both teams' players – and signed it, "To our good luck charm, Teddy Kremer. – Dusty Baker," and handed it to Teddy.
Teddy was exhausted. All those steps up and out of the dugout to retrieve bats and balls had taken their toll.
And three weeks later, the experiece was clear.
"The players," he answered, when asked what was his favorite memory.
Anything surprise you?
"The fans cheering me on."
Favorite thing in the dugout besides the players?
"The Powerade and the bubblegum."
When Ted's parents got home from the ballpark that night, they noticed their necks were quite sore. All from trying to keep up with Teddy's moves.
"Nerve-wracking," recalls Cheryl. "We didn't know he was going to be doing any of that. It was amazing what the Reds let him do."
And, yet, Teddy had been relaxed as could be – well, at least after the national anthem. After the anthem, it was like being back on the Colerain sidelines with Coach Kerry Coombs.
From the end of that night, Teddy remembers one final exchange.
"Mr. Stowe, I want to thank you very much for having me down here. I had a great time."
"I guess you did, Teddy, I guess you did," responded Rick Stowe.
"But not as great a time as we had."
"They all could tell that Teddy is a guy who never has a bad day. How can you not love a guy like that?"


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Skip to comments.Washington Post: We Tried To Bury That Story About ObamaCare Blowing Up The Deficit
Posted on 04/16/2012 8:55:45 PM PDT by george76
Washington Post columnist Patrick Pexton made a rather startling admission in the papers Sunday edition: The Post never meant for their recent story about how President Obamas health care law expands the budget deficit to become a viral Internet sensation. In fact, they deliberately tried to bury the story.
The story in question was titled Health care law will add $340 billion to deficit, new study finds. It pointed out that the administration had double-counted Medicare savings in the law and once you adjusted for that it added to the deficit rather than reducing it, as the White House has claimed. This is pretty significant news and was soon repeated and reposted throughout the web.
(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.investors.com ...
Is it the media's job to bury newsworthy stories? This is a strange world.......
Will this be a surprise to anyone at FR? Just nice from time to time to see confirmation, much less from the WaPo itself.
The paper of Woodward and Bernstein is now officially the paper of Obama's Plumbers.
Well, it was in the old Soviet Union...and here, apparently.
does this mean we can call them biased now??
The paper of Woodward and Bernstein is now officially the paper of Obamas Plumbers.
Just a reminder, the WH occupant at the time of Watergate was of a differant party, so perhaps not much has changed after all
Haven't people in the private sector gone to jail for such accounting tricks?
Thanks george76.
I believe this fact was widely reported in the Non-Lame-Stream-Media before 0bummerRomneyCare became law.
It's just that The Washington ComPost finally was admitting the fact of double counting savings some years later.
Q: Has the ComPost ever reported that there were 10 years of taxes and 6 or 7 years of costs in 0bamaRomneyCare? I doubt they've ever gotten around to reporting that....
Need to send this to a radical libbie who worships at Soetero's feet.
You can convince a man against his will, but he's of the same opinion, still!!!
At least that's what my dearly departed mama told me.
She said you have to lead them to question everything just like every smart person does.
No. Only stories that hurt their scumbag democrats. Anyway, for honest news reporting I look to the Daily Mail and the rest of the British press. The American press is mostly dishonest and useless.
The title might be misleading. I am still searching for any admission whatsoever of wrongdoing in the article in question.
What is that thing called Freedom of the press? Isn't it my right to have a free press, uncontrolled by the government? Can the alphabet networks and newspapers be sued for denying us a free press?
Matt Drudge's niche was reporting news that the media was aware of but decided shouldn't be shared with the American public. First & foremost on that list: the blue dress stained by BJ Clinton's semen.
The Compost is as much of the USA's problem as anything else in DC today....
Exactly right. I remember reading several articles at the time Obamacare was being debated to the effect that this Medicare money was being double counted.
Does anyone really read that bird-cage-liner rag? Hopefully, they will continue their financial slide into nonpublishing oblivion.
Not so strange — Pravda did it frequently for the USSR regime.
"Does anyone really read that bird-cage-liner rag?"
Regrettably, everybody who's anybody in government reads and lives by the WaPo. They quote it as Gospel. Opposing views are blasphemy to be mocked.
"Does anyone really read that bird-cage-liner rag?"
Regrettably, everybody who's anybody in government reads and lives by the WaPo. They quote it as Gospel. Opposing views are blasphemy to be mocked.
"Does anyone really read that bird-cage-liner rag?"
Regrettably, everybody who's anybody in government reads and lives by the WaPo. They quote it as Gospel. Opposing views are blasphemy to be mocked.
Sorry...I should have qualified my question: Does any clear-thinking human being...
Now you're talkin'
People that read WaPo voted for Obama anyway. The real evil is the TV networks.
Sebelius admitted it under oath in front of congress. They asked her if it was the same half billion and she said, "yes".
Reading WaPo is like looking for treasure in the dump. Once in a while one could find a good article. This one, for me, was not what was advertised in the title.
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I once saw a mock trial on TV where Hamlet was tried for the murder of Polonius. It involved real US Supreme Court justices.
I have an idea for a mock trial:
The trial of Elmer Fudd for the attempted murder of Bugs Bunny.
Evidence for the prosecution:
All those Warner Bros. cartoons.
Evidence for defense:
Is BB entitled to human rights?
Possible practical real life applications or whatever:
Intellegent life may exist on other planets quite able to communicate with humans.
They may even be friendly.
Such life may look like, say, big spiders.
What if some day while visiting here one is apparently killed with pre-meditation for no legal reason by a Terran whose identity is known? Should the Terran be tried for murder?
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Bangladesh fell 78 runs short of a breakthrough victory on the final day of the opening Test against West Indies in Mirpur.
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Chasing 245 for a first ever Test win over an established nation, Bangladesh were skittled for 167 after Windies quick Tino Best snared a career-best five for 24.
Best completed victory, and his first Test five-wicket haul, when he bowled Mahmadullah midway through the evening session.
It was a disappointing end to a day that had begun so promisingly for Bangladesh after their bowlers had seemingly paved the way for a memorable win.
After grabbing five late wickets last night the Tigers needed just an hour this morning to take the final four and bowl out the tourists for 273.
That left Bangladesh chasing 245 for a victory that seemed highly unlikely when the West Indies had declared their first innings on 527 for four on day two.
But despite the early loss of Tamim Iqbal for just five, Bangladesh looked like making a go of it as Junaid Siddique and Shahriar Nafees built the foundations of a decent partnership.
That came to an end, however, in the penultimate over before the break when Best got Siddique to edge behind to go for 20.
Bangladesh went into lunch at 45 for two and Best then took centre stage after the interval.
The quick drew Nafees into an ill-judged pull shot that he could only balloon back before Shakib Al-Hasan was caught on the crease as he edged behind to leave his side 55 for four.
There was more to come from Best as he removed Mushfiqur Rahim with a ball from wide on the crease that trapped the skipper in front.
Bangladesh's task was made emphatically harder when first-innings centurion Naeem Islam departed with the score on 106. Veerasammy Permaul was the wicket-taker, in his first over, after Islam played down the wrong line of a ball that straightened into his pads.
Permaul was upstaging his higher-profile spinner Sunil Narine, who went wicketless in 18 overs after being thrown the new ball, and the debutant grabbed a fifth wicket of the afternoon session when he spun one into Nasir Hossain's stumps.
That left Bangladesh with 116 runs to get but just three wickets in hand with a session to play.
Sohag Gazi and Mahmadullah returned to the crease after tea with the intent to suggest they had not given up hope, with both clearing the ropes within five overs after the final break.
But Permaul (three for 32) had Gozi caught in the deep when he went for one shot too many.
Shahadat Hossain then fended Ravi Rampaul to short leg before Best wrapped up the win.
The second and final Test begins in Khulna on Wednesday.
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The Gospel according to Luke 11:23-26
The Lord said, "He who is not with me is against me he who does not gather with me scatters.
"When the unclean spirit has gone out of a man, he passes through waterless places seeking rest; and finding none he says, 'I will return to my house from which I came.' And when he comes he finds it swept and put in order. Then he goes and brings seven other spirits more evil than himself, and they enter and dwell there; and the last state of that man becomes worse than the first."
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The Daughters of the Utah Pioneers held their annual Christmas Social at the Castle Dale Senior Center on Dec. 3. President Janice Spencer welcomed everyone and then introduced Irene Mead. Mead has written a poem and entered into the writing contest held each year by the DUP. She was the runner-up for the poetry division.
Mead read her poem, The Ultimate Sacrifice.
In the wee small hours of an unending stormy night
A small figure trudged faithfully upward with all his might,
His slender body bent - a younger brother he did pack,
Shoeless frozen feet, unable to walk, riding piggyback.
A sleepless night on the cold, hard ground before the day began,
And only sagebrush tea for breakfast - not a morsel in the pan.
He chewed on a small piece of rawhide hoping strength would come,
While the bitter wind cut through him 'til his whole body felt numb.
He often experienced light headedness - as if he were "half there"
From the burning in his chest as he breathed the frigid air,
And the frozen snow cut into his skin, as it whirled around his face,
His eyes so cold he could hardly see, but he continued on the race.
The brothers had chatted together off and on throughout the day.
They talked of the green hills in Scotland where they often went to play.
They wondered about their new home, so different than where they'd been,
And pondered if they would ever see the beauty of Scotland again.
Eventually James became silent, he had no strength to reply.
He forced himself to keep climbing, knowing he had to try.
Upward and onward he forged - when he stumbled and fell he would rest.
Then he cradled his brother in his arms and continued his endless quest.
The unforgiving, relentless ridge appeared to him to grow
As he staggered over the steep incline covered with rocks and snow.
The lad slipped from his frozen fingers - James had lost his grip.
Little Joseph whimpered as James gently secured him upon his hip.
"I downa go much longer," he thought, "we must soon be into camp."
"The morn is nigh upon us." His body twisted and began to cramp.
Again he switched his brother to his back, and said a prayer,
That God would grant the strength he needed to get them safely there.
At once his load seemed lighter than it had ever felt before
He thought that someone steadied him - his climb was less a chore.
He glanced around to see who might be helping with the lad.
What he saw was a familiar figure dawning their Scottish plaid.
"Daddy! How be it ye are here?" James thought within his mind.
They had buried him in Scotland near the home they left behind.
"I've been sent to help you, son. The camp is just ahead.
"I see the campfire - you're almost there," his father calmly said.
Up the ridge and over the top, young James with his brother went.
He carefully placed the little lad down near a fire next to a tent.
He collapsed by his side and thought to himself that tomorrow he'd be OK.
"No my son. You are going with me. Come, we'll be on our way."
The program, Homespun Christmas, followed Mead's reading of her poem. It was directed by chairmen Cynthia Grant and Zora Peacock. Luncheon followed.


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A wait times strategy is in place to reduce wait times for cardiac care, cancer care, diagnostic imaging procedures, joint replacements, sight restoration and emergency rooms.
Primary care reform is changing the way family physicians work so that more people have access to doctors and nurses. In addition, the government's health human resource strategy has a variety of initiatives to increase the number of doctors and nurses available.
The plan to keep Ontarians healthy has involved the development of a chronic disease prevention and management framework and a diabetes strategy, Other health care reforms include system-wide changes in public health, long-term care, home care, and the drug program, as well as new legislation to support reforms.
A major goal of this government's "transformation agenda" for health has been to make the health system more accountable for health outcomes. A new approach to accountability is being taken, which will involve health service providers entering into funding agreements based on what health outcomes they will achieve. A newly created Ontario Health Quality Council is responsible for monitoring how well the health system as a whole is achieving expected outcomes.
The Excellent Care for All Act, 2010 (ECFFA _ Bill 46) was passed on June 8th, 2010. This establishes requirements for health care organizations, starting first with hospitals then into the community sector. This has initiated a focus on quality improvement in the health sector.
The government believes that better outcomes can be achieved through a more integrated health system. To this end, the day-to-day management of the health system has been devolved from the Ministry of Health and Long-Term Care to 14 Local Health Integration Networks (LHINs). LHINS are responsible for the funding and monitoring of the health system in their geographic area. By bringing planning and funding down to a more local level, the goal is to make the health system more accessible, easier to navigate, and more responsive to the needs of the people who live in the LHIN areas.
Improved integration of health care and improved accountability for outcomes requires good quality data and effective information-sharing among all parts of the health system, CMHA Ontario is monitoring these changes in the health care system and their impact on people with mental illness and the mental health system. As the health care system changes, we are committed to working to ensure that changes are in the best interest of the mental health of Ontarians. We have made submissions to the government on many issues related to health care reform.
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Patrick Gubbins gave the Bureau of Land Management update at the Dec. 6, Emery County Commission meeting. "We have always had a positive working relationship with the county and hope it continues in the future. We are in the process of remodeling the visitor's center at the Cleveland/Lloyd dinosaur quarry. The old visitor's center was the first one for the BLM and was built by Carbon and Emery County people. We will increase the size of the visitor center. The contract is for 300 days and we plan a ribbon cutting the end of next summer and would like to invite the commissioners to attend.
"We had a number of onsite meetings at the Wedge and have completed some road improvements there. We have put out several picnic tables. There has been some vandalism on the restrooms and repairs are needed there.
"We have hired a new OHV coordinator, Bill Allinson, with a grant from state parks. Bill has already logged 500 volunteer hours from several OHV clubs.The adopt a trail program has interest from clubs along the Wasatch Front and Grand Junction; also an individual from Denver and St. George. Clubs are coming together and Bill is a good person to do the job.
"We are also numbering the Class B roads. It is a good process.
"We have been working with Ray Petersen and Mark. H Williams on refining the maps for OHV routes and hopefully that will minimize the need for search and rescue. We are moving along on that.
"There have been wire burners in the Mounds area. They have been burning cable and also in some cases pulling fiber optic wires from the ground.
The Resource Management Plan is still in progress. We are reviewing maps and the economic report has been added. Mike McCandless and Delynn Fielding helped with that," said Gubbins.
Gubbins also reported the trail cat has been over the Eva Conover Road and the Behind the Reef road, and it will be back again to work on trails in the county. "We want safe and fun experiences for families who use the resources," said Gubbins.
Derris Jones reported on the Division of Wildlife Resources. He said the sheep had been counted on the San Rafael Swell and one area had 20 more than two years ago and the other area had 30 less. The sheep seem to be stabilized at approximately 230 sheep for each unit. The sheep also had excellent lamb production. Also the Rattlesnake Unit had 206 and Bighorn Bench had 300.
Some antelope were released with 96 being released in Emery County and some in Carbon County. The buck/doe ratio is 15/100 and preliminary results show a great fawn production for the deer. At the RAC meeting on Dec. 14 in Green River they will discuss bear hunting. Jones reported on the 14 bears released this summer. Three bears have slipped their radio collars, two bears have died, eight are living in Utah and one is in Colorado. They have dispersed and are doing well. Jones said the availability of food this year added to the success of the bear release. The DWR is working on the bison survey for the Henry Mountains. The ice fishing season is just beginning, Scofield is just beginning to freeze around the edges.
Carbon County is going to construct a community fishery at the fairgrounds. Water will come from the Carbon canal. The depth of the pond will be 15 feet. There will be some catch and release trout in the pond and bass and bluegill will also be added to the pond.
Jones reported the pure strain of Colorado Cutthroat found in Scad Valley contain whirling disease. Testing is continuing in the Huntington drainage for whirling disease. An education program for anglers to teach them to rinse their waders in a clorox solution as they go from fisheries in the state will help stop the spread of whirling disease.
At Duckfork Reservoir spawn will be taken this spring and tested but no eggs will be going to the hatchery this year. There is a mercury advisory out for the catfish in Desolation Canyon. A creel survey will be taken on random dates in 2006 to record fishermen and fishing success at Huntington and Huntington North reservoirs. The habitat group, Utah Partners for Conservation has done a lot and a recent tour showed the results of one of last year's projects and they watched a current project where the harrowing machine was at work. A meeting on Range Creek was held with some of the partners and the next meeting will be Jan. 11, 2006 at 9 a.m. Four meetings will be held over the next months to work out a resource management plan. Jones said a man convicted of killing two deer on the Skyline was sentenced to 90 days in jail, a $1,250 fine, $400 restitution and 100 hours of community service, the lady holding the spotlight received the same fine without the jail time. Jones concluded from this stiffer sentence that maybe wildlife crimes will be prosecuted more fully in Sanpete County from now on. The Big Horn Sheep Festival was a success in Moab with 100 people viewing sheep and attending the lecture.
An advertising campaign will be launched to attract anglers back to the sport, since 2001, fishing licenses are down 100,000. A 365 day license will be introduced and will be good for one year from the date of purchase.
The late elk hunt on the Manti has seen nice six points taken but the monster bulls have gone back into hiding and the success of the hunt during the rut has not been experienced by the late elk hunters.
Ray Petersen said four seats will expire on the public lands council at the end of the year. He has begun advertising for the positions.
In other commission business the commission approved the cooperative agreement with the forest service for law enforcement services. The Southeastern Utah applied technology college had requested the use of a room in the courthouse to conduct miner training and would need the room for three months.The commission is working with the college on alternate locations, maybe the incubator building, Huntington Town Hall or the Star Theater.
Two business licenses were approved, one for Donna LeRoy for DCL outsource payroll and Kevin Wall for A Wall Arms and Ammunition in Cleveland.
The next commission meeting will be held on Dec. 20 at 4 p.m.