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the reason we did not see more of them in the war is because oda just was short on time and knew he would have time for buggy later.


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Northampton notched up seven tries for a comprehensive 57-10 LV=Cup victory over Wasps at Franklin's Gardens on Saturday.
Northampton notched up seven tries for a comprehensive 57-10 LV=Cup victory over Wasps at Franklin's Gardens on Saturday.
The Saints were dominant from the outset and the win seals their place in the semi-finals. Wing Jamie Elliott and Noah Cato led the charge, scoring a brace of tries apiece.
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Cons: NJ Robinson
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Wasps: 15 Hugo Southwell, 14 Lee Robinson, 13 Alex Cheesman, 12 Chris Mayor, 11 Richard Haughton, 10 Will Robinson, 9 Charlie Davies (c), 8 Victor Gresev, 7 Matt Everard, 6 Tinus DuPlessis, 5 Ed O'Donoghue, 4 Heinz Koll, 3 Ben Broster, 2 Nathan Morris, 1 Tim Payne.
Replacements: 16 Vladislav Korshunov, 17 Bob Baker, 18 Simon McIntyre, 19 Joe Burton, 20 Sam Jones, 21 Joe Simpson, 22 Nick Robinson, 23 Charlie Ingall.
London Irish 23-15 Gloucester
London Irish edged Gloucester 23-15 in their clash at the Madejski Stadium on Saturday.
London Irish full-back Tom Homer was his team's hero as he gave a faultless kicking display, scoring 18 points via six penalties.
Homer punished any infringements by the Cherry and Whites within goalkicking range and on two occasions he landed spot-kicks from 40 metres, as well as a monster effort from just inside the halfway mark.
The Exiles' only other points came through a try in the first half by hooker Brian Blaney, who scored after fly-half Dan Bowden and former England centre Shontayne Hape did well in the build-up.
London Irish did not have things going their own way though, and Gloucester's young wing Ian Clark almost upstaged Homer by scoring two well-taken tries.
Their other points came from a conversion and penalty former England captain Mike Tindall, who did duty at fly-half.
The scorers:
For London Irish:
Tries: Blaney
Pens: Homer 6
For Gloucester:
Tries: Clark 2
Cons: Tindall
Pens: Tindall
London Irish: 15 Tom Homer, 14 Adam Thompstone, 13 Jonathan Spratt, 12 Shontayne Hape, 11 Sailosi Tagicakibau, 10 Dan Bowden, 9 Darren Allinson, 8 Richard Thorpe, 7 David Sisi, 6 Matt Garvey, 5 Bryn Evans, 4 Nick Kennedy, 3 Paulica Ion, 2 Brian Blaney, 1 Clarke Dermody (capt).
Replacements: 16 David Paice, 17 Max Lahiff, 18 Mark George, 19 Kieran Roche, 20 Alex Gray, 21 Guy Armitage, 22 Adrian Jarvis, 23 Ross Samson.
Gloucester: 15 Tom Voyce, 14 Ian Clark, 13 Tim Molenaar, 12 Eliota Fuimaono-Sapolu, 11 James Simpson-Daniel, 10 Mike Tindall, 9 Dave Lewis, 8 Matt Cox, 7 Andy Hazell, 6 Peter Buxton (capt), 5 Alex Brown, 4 Will James, 3 Shaun Knight, 2 Darren Dawidiuk, 1 Dan Murphy.
Replacements: 16 Matias Cortese, 17 Yann Thomas, 18 Dario Chistolini, 19 Tom Savage, 20 Gareth Evans, 21 Nick Runciman, 22 Billy Burns, 23 Akapusi Qera.
Leicester 24-13 Newcastle
Leicester eased past Newcastle 24-13 at Welford Road on Saturday.
The victory means that Leicester have secured their spot in the play-offs but despite fielding 11 internationals in their starting XV, they did not have things going their own way.
Number eight Thomas Waldrom opened the scoring after the tigers opted to turn down a kickable penalty and instead opted to kick for the touchline. Jeremy Staunton slotted the conversion before adding two further penalties but Newcastle struck back with two spot-kicks of their own from Jimmy Gopperth.
Staunton added two further penalties to give Leicester a 19-6 lead at the break. Their only points of the second half came through a try by George Skivington and the Falcons fought back with a try by Gopperth which he also converted.
The scorers:
For Leicester:
Tries: Waldrom, Skivington
Cons: Staunton
Pens: Staunton 4
For Newcastle:
Tries: Gopperth
Cons: Gopperth
Pens: Gopperth 2
Leicester: 15 Niall Morris, 14 Horacio Agulla, 13 Matt Smith, 12 Anthony Allen, 11 Scott Hamilton, 10 Jeremy Staunton, 9 Sam Harrison, 8 Thomas Waldrom, 7 Ben Woods (c), 6 Steve Mafi, 5 Graham Kitchener, 4 George Skivington, 3 Julian White, 2 George Chuter, 1 Marcos Ayerza.
Replacements: 16 Rob Hawkins, 17 Logoviii Mulipola, 18 Ryan Bower, 19 Craig Newby, 20 Julian Salvi, 21 James Grindal, 22 Toby Flood, 23 Andy Forsyth.
Newcastle: 15 Greg Goosen, 14 Ryan Shortland, 13 Corne Uys, 12 James Fitzpatrick, 11 Suka Hufanga, 10 Jimmy Gopperth, 9 Chris Pilgrim, 8 Mark Wilson, 7 Richard Mayhew, 6 Ally Hogg, 5 Tim Swinson, 4 Adriaan Fondse, 3 James Hall, 2 Rob Vickers, 1 Jonny Golding.
Replacements: 16 Joe Graham, 17 Darren Fearn, 18 Ashley Wells, 19 Richard Boyle, 20 Taiasina Tu'ifua, 21 Will Chudley, 22 Jamie Helleur, 23 Joel Hodgson.
Sale 19-14 Scarlets
Sale pivot Nick Macleod's boot was the difference as the hosts held off Scarlets 19-14 at Edgeley Park.
The Manchester-based club's England flanker Hendre Fourie played brilliantly and was rewarded for his efforts by scoring a try on his home debut.
The Scarlets will breath a sigh of relief as the bonus point secured for losing by less than seven points secured them a semi-final berth.
Fourie's try came as early as the ninth minute and Welshman Macleod kicked 14 points via four penalties and a conversion to cap a fine all-round display.
The Scarlets points came through a try by Peter Edwards – who barged over the line after the Scarlets took a quick tap penalty – two penalties by Dan Newton and another three-pointer by replacement Stephen Jones.
The scorers:
For Sale:
Try: Fourie
Con: MacLeod
Pens: MacLeod 4
For Scarlets:
Try: Edwards
Pens: Newton 2, Jones
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Hockey Is Destroying Western Civilization
Jonathan Willis
September 06 2011 09:22PM
Laura Robinson's article on the Vancouver riots and the violence-worshipping nature of hockey doesn't quite go as far as the title above, but she comes close.
Robinson argues that hockey – she cites the Vancouver Olympics and the Canucks' playoff run – leads to violence against women, because of the culture of violence in hockey.
I came across this particular article thanks to Tyler Dellow, who goes into some detail explaining why that statistics that Robinson uses are, at best, deeply flawed.
I'm in total agreement with Dellow here; Robinson's carefully dancing around numbers that don't support her case and carefully representing the ones that do support her case in the most damning light possible. But, since Dellow's already tackled the statistics, I thought I'd look at the other logical premises of Robinson's argument.
[W]riting about the connection between the public performance of violence -- and how young males learn how to "act out" masculinity through that performance -- is verboten in a country that worships what has become a violent game.
One of the things that Robinson doesn't touch on in her article – maybe she has at some point over her decade-long crusade against hockey (she'd never allow any male she cared for to be involved in the sport) but she doesn't here – is why sexual violence, and only sexual violence, deserves consideration.
What happens if we look at overall violent crime? We can only look at things since 2009 (the way statistics were recorded changed that year, making previous comparison very difficult) but the overall rate doesn't move the same way that the sexual assault rate did. Why hockey only impacts sexual crime and not overall violent crime is a mystery to me.
Then, of course, there's the 'has become' part of that sentence, which shows an appalling ignorance of history. In 1905, Alcide Laurin was beaten to death on the ice. In 1907, Owen McCourt was also killed on the ice – Charles Masson, the player charged in his death, was ultimately acquitted in large part because it wasn't clear which of the players beating McCourt had actually killed him. Those are two incidents, but there are plenty of others – hockey's been a violent game since very early on.
There's other stuff along the way – like the unsupported statement that few hockey players like what the game has become – but then Robinson sites Dr. Graham Pollett's 2007 paper Violence in amateur Hockey and suggests reading it. She didn't link to it, but I will – it's here - and include some of the actual content from the paper. Let me quote one paragraph:
Yet Hockey Canada appears reticent to [take action to minimize violence]. This despite the evidence that amateur contests in which violence is not tolerated such as the World Juniors are highly successful…
The World Juniors are, of course, played under international rules. Just like the Olympics, which Robinson cites as a major factor in violence against women. I'm unsure if she's ignorant of the difference in rules or if she's choosing to ignore it; either way, the reference to Pollett's paper seems ill-placed.
The startling coincidence of the report being released the same day we learned Wade Belak, a recently retired NHL enforcer, had hanged himself drives home an even more tragic lesson on hockey violence. This was the third death of a young man who was also an NHL enforcer in the past few months -- fourth when Bob Probert's death in July is included.
The deaths of NHL tough guys this summer has been deeply disturbing. I'm not familiar enough with the lives of the players involved to be in a position to explain exactly what happened and what the answer is – though like many, I don't think the role of 'NHL enforcer' is conducive to good mental health. At the same time, though, Robinson doesn't explain why Probert's death – caused by a heart attack (which, given the fact that Probert's father died of a heart attack at the age of 41, might be related to family history)– should be included in this list.
The problem though, is that without a certain level of ignorance towards history and a willingness to fudge numbers, Robinson would be unable to hammer away at her theories with the same level of moral indignation.
For further discussion of sexual assault statistics and how they relate to hockey, Colby Cosh's "Hockey: the cure for rape?" deserves consideration.
September 06 2011, 11:23PM
Great article Jon, my only question is why this piece is only on the canucks site?
Looks to me like a great piece to share with all the nations eh.
September 07 2011, 08:00AM
@Wanyes bastard child
With good ideas like that you'd think Wanye would at least acknowledge you.
As for the post, it should be an embarrassment to the writer to try to pull a stunt like this over. Of course, she won't care.
September 07 2011, 08:19AM
It's disgraceful to use events like this to support a totally unrelated agenda. I die a little inside every time people use events like the tragedy at Columbine to condemn video games and movies, or in this case the Vancouver riots to condemn a great sport like hockey.
The (lack of) causality borders on absurd, and it's a blemish on legit publications that condemn violence against women.
In a word, embarassing.
The flaws which are great in the argument tends to ignore the fact that one of the most violent sports in the world is Soccer. It is not the violence in the field but in the stands, outside the stadium or in the pubs and bars where much of the thuggery and violence has taken turn for the ugly.
The riots at the olympics were simply related to the anti G20 anarchists rather than a particular sport.
I am not sure why this season there has been so much tragedy this summer. The reality is it is not specific to hockey. NBA, MLB and NFL players have issues with drugs, guns, depression and a laundry list of injuries which has led to early deaths and mental problems.
If one looks at the sport of Hockey now and compares it to the 1970s where thuggery was idolized (Big Bad Bruins and the Broadstreet Bullies) it is hard to say for sure that their is any correlation between violence in hockey and issues today.
Only thing we can say is that concussions and head injuries are considerably more serious than we understood and we have made considerable progress in understanding the long term affects.
I HATE violence against women. We should ban hockey! Wait. That doesn't make any sense...
We should ban alcohol! No. Nevermind. They tried that once already.
Guess we should ban women... Let's start with Laura Robinson!
September 07 2011, 09:07AM
Wow. Sounds to me like someone took her easy credit Women's Studies and 100 level Sociology classes a little too seriously.
That garbage doesnt stand up to the tiniest bit of scrutiny. Poor Form, Laura Robinson, poor form.
Wow. Sounds to me like someone took her easy credit Women's Studies and 100 level Sociology classes a little too seriously.
That garbage doesnt stand up to the tiniest bit of scrutiny. Poor Form, Laura Robinson, poor form.
Exactly, and it is unfortunate because it discredits academia and it also takes away credibility from a very important discussion about some of the cultural issues around the game of hockey. There are issues of violence, alcohol abuse, etc. that relate to hockey. There are some issues of hooliganism amongst fans as well. These are important discussions. People like this make them very difficult to have because they make the topic less credible.
Unfortunately the presence of 'critical' approaches in the social sciences has allowed this type of crap to dominate many sociology departments across Canada. It's unfortunate because a discipline that could have been key to addressing a lot of problems in society (culture and social relationships are very important to understand if we want to see improvements in society) has largely been written off as useless by policy makers. 'New' disciplines have had to emerge (environmental studies, recreation studies, etc.) to 'reboot' the discussion. Meanwhile Sociology departments continue to decline and do little more than bemoan the fact that nobody will give them funding.
September 07 2011, 10:54AM
I spent 8 years in the social sciences (Anthropology, Classics, Archaeology) at the U of A, and I can say without a doubt that if I had submitted a paper with logic like the one quoted here then I would be ripped to shreds.
If this meets acceptable standards in Sociology then they deserve to fall by the wayside. I argued the same in Classics about why they were being left behind in so many debates about the ancient world. You have to be relevant, but you also have to have standards. The Robinson piece is highly relevant but lacking in standards.
You're bang on, if there was a discussion to be had about this, it wont be taken seriously now.
September 07 2011, 11:28AM
Sadly, many undereducated, less critical thinkers will take this article as it was presented. Authoritative, researched, and logically sound. Too few people really question what is presented in mass media.
GIVING EVERYONE A RIBBON (for participation) IS DESTROYING WESTERN CIVILIZATION
September 07 2011, 12:20PM
What a bunch of garbage. Let's start blaming hockey for everything. There are lots of television shows that have a far greater of impact on real world violence.
September 07 2011, 12:41PM
My girlfriend is the one who watches hockey fights and screams "MAKE THE LITTLE BITCH BLEED!" I wouldn't dare hit her. She scares me.
September 07 2011, 01:02PM
My girlfriend is the one who watches hockey fights and screams "MAKE THE LITTLE BITCH BLEED!" I wouldn't dare hit her. She scares me.
Looks like she already hit you pretty hard.
September 07 2011, 02:00PM
The selective use of very pliable statistics to promote an agenda immediately invalidates any argument. This is, of course, a cheap way of getting some attention. Nothing more. She'll be on all of the Canadian talking head programs, the oh-so-tired Michael Landsberg will very cleverly invite her on OTR to "debate" some knuckle-dragging neanderthal from the 1970s, and Don Cherry will probably be quoted about her "not having to look at hockey if she stays in the kitchen".
I dunno... amongst the Maoris in New Zealand, the horrific incidents of violence against women are blamed on the "Warrior" archetype, and the LACK of a traditional outlet for their aggression. Here, we have a sort of collective, cultural outlet of aggression that most of us only experience vicariously, and THIS is bad, too? So, suppressing violent tendencies is bad, and celebrating them is bad. What DOESN'T promote violence, then?
I guess that explains why she works in Winnipeg, for the Free Press. And articles like that will be why I will never read the Free Press
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September 07 2011, 05:22PM
An excerpt from the article:
According to the police, District 1 saw an increase of 233.3 per cent in reported sexual offences during the Olympics
I blame the figure skating. Absolutely. The women in their little outfits and the men with their hands all over them give the message that it okay for men to touch women in this way.
September 07 2011, 05:27PM
My comment above is about as coherent as the article is. This woman can be painted with the same brush as Ann Coulter and Bill O'Reilly. They take a "moral stand" and will distort facts and stats to fit their opinions. I am sure if asked, Laura Robinson would tell you other gatherings of thousands of people in other parts of the world have never resulted in violence of any kind. It is only hockey.
Instead of attacking a GAME, lets look at our education system, our parenting, as well as the effect the media has in violence against humans.
September 07 2011, 05:30PM
It's disgraceful to use events like this to support a totally unrelated agenda. I die a little inside every time people use events like the tragedy at Columbine to condemn video games and movies, or in this case the Vancouver riots to condemn a great sport like hockey.
The (lack of) causality borders on absurd, and it's a blemish on legit publications that condemn violence against women.
In a word, embarassing.
September 07 2011, 05:39PM
@Pension Plan Puppets
Good ideas were kinda frowned upon growing up :(
September 07 2011, 05:58PM
Just read Tyler Dellow's response to the article.
Sorry to say this, but I have to agree with some of the comments in Robinson's article. She must have a deep-seated hatred for men in this game of hockey. Maybe a father, Husband, boyfriend or authority figure was involved with the game and mistreated her.
Definitely skewing the stats to fit her agenda. My favorite part of the Dellow article:
I assumed that she didn't mention the June numbers – when the Canucks playoff run ended ignominiously because they were simply to horrible to mention. No Canucks playoff hockey in June 2010 and an awful ending to Canucks' playoff hockey in June of 2011 must surely have unleashed the "…violent subculture of masculinity fed by hockey, UFC and other activities that define men through violence and (lead them to) start drinking hours before they commit public or private acts of violence." I'm a brave man with a strong stomach so I looked. 13 reports of sexual offences in District 1 in June of 2010 and…11 this year. Huh. Guess she didn't see that page. Oversight, I'm sure. She just went April, May, July. Whoops.
September 07 2011, 07:21PM
Here is a glimpse of this woman's future.
September 07 2011, 07:24PM
Just wondering out loud here, but is there a female version of "Delta Bravo"??
If so, Laura Robinson, you are it.
September 07 2011, 08:12PM
I am an Oilers fan, I think hockey is the greatest game on earth, and i'm an academic. I have had to hide my love of the game to avoid arguments like the one presented by Laura Robinson. Women and Gender studies programs are the 'it' thing right now in the Social Sciences and sports or any other male dominated realm are under their microscope/attack.
The message I choose to take from it is: "Rape is deplorable and more needs to be done in our society to educate, and discourage young men from even considering any sort of sexual exploitation of men or women." Hockey has unprecedented access to the male mind. in our country especially, and any effort put forth by such an influential organization to deter sex crimes and violence would undoubtedly make Canada a better place. That we can agree on.
Speculating that she was abused, hypothetically dismissing an academic field, or "what about soccer, what about MMA?" or personally attacking her misses the point.
I think sexual predators use drunken mayhem as an opportunity to offend regardless of the cause of the mayhem.
On an unrelated note: give Smytty the 'C' for god's sake!!
Keep up the good work O.N.
September 07 2011, 08:18PM
The main problem I have with Laura Robinson article is the timing of it. It screams that she is just another media hack trying get to herself a slice of the action. On top of that she mentions her own book in the article in a classic case of self-promotion. She uses the tragedies that have befallen on the NHL this summer and the concussion to Sidney Crosby as a platform to spout her message. And not only does she take advantage of what has happened recently, she shows no remorse for the players who have died or the friends and family that are still suffering from the loss. I mean the attack on Wade Belak shows no class whatsoever.
The other problem I have is her use of statistics. She showed percentages and mentioned a spike, which can be very misleading rather than actual numbers. For example, an increase from 3 to 7 is a 133% increase, and an increase from 1 to 3 could be considered a spike if the average is 1. Also, how did she prove that the reason behind the sexual offenses was due to the influence of hockey on the perpetrator?
In the end, Laura Robinson wrote this article to get a reaction. Violent acts happen everywhere and in every major sport, but she chose hockey because it is the hot topic in Canada right now and she just happened to write a book about the subject and wanted to give it a plug.
By the way Laura, statistics can be used to prove anything... I mean 89% of people know that.
September 07 2011, 09:52PM
I've watched alot of hockey and have never punched or hit anyone; male or female. Sounds like I've got some catching up to do. See you around....
p.s. my paragraph above is sarcasm/humor/etc.
I remember when I was young, probably about 12 or 13, in the dawn of the PC/sensitive nineties, Superbowl was coming up and the media put out something about how there is more child abuse on that day annually than any other day. I remember thinking that would be way too random/coincidental to be true and that if there are parents that would be pushed over the edge due to a foot ball game they would need to be removed from being parents.
If there are people that would use contact sports such as hockey as a spark to ignite ridiculous acts they need to be removed from society, as they have in essence proved they are incapable of handling the expectations of separating reality from all other things; a basic and required regulation to co-exist among the rest of us. Like when children are removed from a social scene like the dinner table because they do not respect the parametres of that situation.
September 07 2011, 10:40PM
I guess that explains why she works in Winnipeg, for the Free Press. And articles like that will be why I will never read the Free Press
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It's illogical to assume that all of the articles in the Free Press are as bad as this one - much like it is perversely illogical to assume that hockey promotes sexual violence.
I'm not defending the Free Press, because I don't read it. Then again, I don't read any of the papers or watch TV news because it's so obviously biased, one way or the other.
September 08 2011, 07:04AM
An excerpt from the article:According to the police, District 1 saw an increase of 233.3 per cent in reported sexual offences during the Olympics
I blame the figure skating. Absolutely. The women in their little outfits and the men with their hands all over them give the message that it okay for men to touch women in this way.
I wonder if that increase had anything to do with the massive increase in PEOPLE in Vancouver during that time.
September 08 2011, 09:08AM
I'm an Academic too. This article lacks any sort of Academic quality. It's pseudo-academic at best, and tripe at worst.
Women and Gender studies have been in vogue for a while, but it doesnt mean that anything done in the name of those topics is good. In fact, most of it is blatantly terrible.
Too many crusaders and not enough thinkers.
September 08 2011, 11:56AM
Too many Crusaders is right. On one side women want to play the same sports as men, and on the other side some people are too sophisticated and cultured (nannyfied by political sensitivity) to embrace the high level of skill, competition and FOCUS-not to mention the fulfilling feeling of loyalty a fan experiences-that goes with great sports. If anything Figure skating would increase the cases of homo and trans-sexual assault. The demographic at a figure skating event would not be young adult, single males. If that actually is the case than these Vancouver males have weird sexual inspiration, because a figure skating event is not something turns my chivalry switch.


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After a year's worth of preparation the time has come for Miss Utah week. Miss Huntington, Chelsea Killian and Miss Emery, Kristine Johansen will spend the week in Salt Lake vying for the Miss Utah crown.
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Kristine's platform is physical fitness and good health for youth. She has been involved in going to schools and teaching the children about fitness and the importance of good health and taking care of yourself.
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A Closer Look At The Idzik Plan
Posted 09 May 2013 - 01:07 PM
Step 1 Dump the Dead Weight As soon as Idzik was hired and got a chance to look at the team as a whole, the first thing he had to do was cut the dead weight from this roster and there was plenty of it. The first to go wasnt a player, but rather a coach, Dave DeGuglielmo, the disgraceful former offensive line coach who once touted Wayne Hunter as the best right tackle out there. Dumping him was a great start. Next to go were some veteran players whose contracts didnt match up with their level of play anymore: Bart Scott, Calvin Pace, The Smith brothers, Jason and Eric, and Sione Pouha not long after. Its worth noting that those moves were all fairly obvious and whoever took the job would have cut all of those over the hill, overpaid, overused players. Its what Idzik did next that made his early tenure as general manager positive.
Step 2 Replace the Replaceable The Jets had many free agents heading into this offseason, and how Idzik handled players such as Mike DeVito, Dustin Keller, Laron Landry, Shonn Greene, Brandon Moore, and Matt Slauson would go a long way towards shaping this roster. Those players were all major contributors to last years 10-loss team and all have major question marks at this point in their careers.
Landry is the best of the bunch, and while he was a Rex Ryan and fan-favorite, the Jets simply couldnt afford to guarantee the same amount of money to the oft-injured safety that the Colts did. The rest of the key free agents on the team were all very replaceable and not worth over-paying for, and thats exactly how Idzik felt. None of those players were worth offering multiple years or big money to, so Idzik allowed them all to walk away to new teams. Despite some fans clamoring to re-sign them, paying big money to role players like Keller or DeVito is a surefire way to get yourself to 8-8 every year. Giving starter money to Shonn Greene is how you set yourself up to be unemployed in a few years. Brandon Moore is so washed up (despite what some in the media may have you believe), that he has still yet to be signed by a team. Yes, letting all these players go obviously meant Idzik would have a lot of holes to fill, but he had a plan for that.
Step 3 Find the Value Rather than overpay for mediocre players just because they were already Jets, Idzik identified where there was better value on the free agent market. With his hands tied financially due to Mike Tannenbaums mishandling of the salary cap, Idzik had to be smart with who he signed. He targeted two different kinds of players as free agency opened: cheap productive veterans who were let go from their previous teams for various reasons, such as Willie Colon, Antonio Garay, and Dawan Landry; and younger players with upside looking for an opportunity, like Mike Goodson and Antwan Barnes. He also pulled off the trade with the New Orleans Saints to land talented and productive running back Chris Ivory, who has all of the tools to be a major contributor to this team. All of those players brought in have shown ability and offered much better bang for the buck than the alternatives.
Step 3b Give incumbent Young Talent a Chance Not only was Idzik going to replace the departed free agents with outside signings, but he also decided he was going to let the young talent already on the roster get a chance to show what they can do in bigger roles. Players like Jeremy Kerley and 2nd-round pick Stephen Hill will be given opportunities to play major roles on offense, as will tight ends Jeff Cumberland and Hayden Smith. The 3rd-round picks from 2011 and 2012, Kenrick Ellis and Demario Davis respectively, will be taking over major roles on defense to replace departed veterans like Scott and Pouha. Last years draft choices Antonio Allen and Josh Bush will be given a chance to replace Yeremiah Bell and Eric Smith at safety, while Garrett McIntyre and Ricky Sapp can help fill the (small) hole left behind by Bryan Thomas. In many cases, the players stepping up from within or the ones who were brought in from the outside not only offer better value than the player theyre replacing from 2012, but theyre better players, period.
Step 4 Trade Revis This could go in the previous section with the value moves, but the Revis Saga deserves its own heading. The Revis trade was mainly driven by ownership, but it was up to Idzik to maximize the return on his best player who was coming off an ACL tear and had a history of being a major pain in the butt to teams off the field with his contract situation. When the process began, many in the media were skeptical that Idzik would be able to even fetch as much as the Vikings got in exchange for Percy Harvin and that a first-round pick wouldnt be had. Well, Idzik played the situation about as well as he possibly could and ended up with not only a 1st round pick, but a high one (#13 overall), and he got what will likely be a 3rd round pick in the 2014 draft. It sucks to lose a player like Revis, but Idzik did what needed to be done.
Step 5 Cut Out the Leaks / End the Circus - From the moment Idzik has taken over, hes taken steps toward eliminating the whole circus persona that has overtaken the Jets franchise the past few years. The most noticeable change has occurred with the media, as the leaks that plagued the previous regime have been completely plugged. There are no more anonymous sources from the front office giving reporters information. There are no anonymous quotes coming out from inside the locker room. Heck, the beat writers dont even have the scoop on players the team is looking at or about to sign. There wasnt a peep about the Jets being interested in players like Willie Colon or Antonio Garay. Nobody knew Landry was going to sign until the Jets very own twitter account broke the news. Nobody had Sheldon Richardson linked to the Jets in the days leading up to the draft, and the guesses about the Revis trade compensation became comical at best. The Jets are back to being run like an actual football team, and thats a good thing.
Step 6 Promote Competition Across the Roster This is most notable at the quarterback position, where much has been made about the fact the Jets currently have five quarterbacks on the roster despite Greg McElroy and Matt Simms not actually having a chance to start. When the position was as big of a mess as it was last year, then competition between three players like Sanchez, Garrard, and 2013 2nd-round pick Geno Smith is not a bad thing at all. But its not just at the QB position where Idzik has preached competition. He brought in two new running backs Chris Ivory and Goodson to compete with Bilal Powell and Joe McKnight. At Guard, Idzik brought in FOUR new players to compete with incumbents Vlad Ducasse and Caleb Schlauderaff. Willie Colon and Stephen Peterman were signed on the cheap, while the 3rd and 6th-round draft choices were used on Brian Winters and William Campbell.
Dee Milliner was drafted to push Kyle Wilson down the depth chart and push competition with guys like Aaron Berry, Ellis Lankster, Isaiah Trufant, and Darrin Walls for roster spots. Garay was signed to push Kenrick Ellis, and Sheldon Richardson was drafted to play on the defensive line as well. There will even be competition at the fullback position as Lex Hilliard will battle it out with 7th-round pick Tommy Bohanon. From top to bottom, there will be depth at every position, and the best players will compete for playing time.
Step 7 Look Toward The Future Idzik has done a very good job setting a foundation on this roster, but there is obviously work to still be done. Hes re-tooled the offensive line, took a shot on a new QB of the Future with Geno Smith, added two good running backs who complement each other very well, and theres a very good young and talented defensive foundation in place with guys such as Coples, Wilkerson, Cromartie, Harris, and now Milliner and Richardson.
Next year, there will be a lot of extra salary eligible to come off the books, and Idzik will be flush with draft picks. The Tampa Bay 3rd or 4th rounder (depending on the Revis situation) will belong to the Jets, and its expected that the team will be awarded several compensatory selections in the mid-to-late rounds for players like Laron Landry, Keller, and DeVito signing elsewhere. So while there is still work to be done (positions such as Tight End, Linebacker, and of course QB still need to be solved), Jets fans everywhere should be encouraged with the job John Idzik has done in a short period of time. Well see how his moves play out on the field come September, but here in May, its hard to be disappointed, especially with how the team is set up going forward with cap room and a plethora of draft picks. For the first time in a while, it seems as though the Jets actually have a real plan: The Idzik Plan.
Posted 09 May 2013 - 01:23 PM
Posted 09 May 2013 - 01:33 PM
FlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:
azjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:
1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
Posted 09 May 2013 - 02:14 PM
However, I really like using the word methodical to describe Idzik. He reminds me of Sandy Alderson for the Mets, who I think is doing a great job. Nothing is flashy...you don't hear a lot from him...nothing happens too quick...and he NEVER overreaches/overpays for a player. If a market gets too big for a guy, you let him go even if you really wanted to sign him. That's probably very hard to do, to self-edit that way...but it's what separates the good from the bad.
Posted 09 May 2013 - 02:45 PM
Posted 09 May 2013 - 03:41 PM
step 2 - retire before getting fired
step 3 ?????
step 4 profit
Posted 09 May 2013 - 03:52 PM
Jetsfan115, on 09 May 2013 - 04:41 PM, said:
step 2 - retire before getting fired
step 3 ?????
step 4 profit
You're a clown, stop being an attention whore
Quote from my wife when I told her I liked Tebow, but that he sucks as a QB
Posted 09 May 2013 - 04:00 PM
Jetsfan115, on 09 May 2013 - 04:41 PM, said:
step 2 - retire before getting fired
step 3 ?????
step 4 profit
I'm sorry...how again does he profit from ruining a team?
Posted 09 May 2013 - 04:28 PM
HurricaneJet32, on 09 May 2013 - 05:00 PM, said:
He's paraphrasing a joke from South Park
Posted 09 May 2013 - 05:01 PM
SecondHandJets, on 09 May 2013 - 02:28 PM, said:
yup. glad someone got the joke. I think the underwear gnomes would be a better GM
Posted 09 May 2013 - 05:01 PM
Posted 09 May 2013 - 05:07 PM
HurricaneJet32, on 09 May 2013 - 03:14 PM, said:
However, I really like using the word methodical to describe Idzik. He reminds me of Sandy Alderson for the Mets, who I think is doing a great job. Nothing is flashy...you don't hear a lot from him...nothing happens too quick...and he NEVER overreaches/overpays for a player. If a market gets too big for a guy, you let him go even if you really wanted to sign him. That's probably very hard to do, to self-edit that way...but it's what separates the good from the bad.
Solid comparison idzik is. Getting cheap upside guys to fill roster not overpaying guys like Latin Landry and mike devito....
Posted 09 May 2013 - 05:46 PM
Jetsfan115, on 09 May 2013 - 06:01 PM, said:
Lol, that's rich coming from you
Quote from my wife when I told her I liked Tebow, but that he sucks as a QB
Posted 09 May 2013 - 05:51 PM
Posted 09 May 2013 - 06:05 PM
Jetsfan115, on 09 May 2013 - 06:01 PM, said:
I'm gonna just go ahead and be perfectly content not getting a south park joke...
Posted 10 May 2013 - 10:40 AM
Jetsfan115, on 09 May 2013 - 06:51 PM, said:
The piece of logic that your tiny brain failed to consider is the subjectivity of this situation. YOU think it's negative, that doesn't mean it's negative. This isn't an objectively negative situation like the Boston marathon bombings, it's you being negative to, at worst, a neutral situation. Ipso facto, your a negative nancy.
And in response, yes, I'm being negative towards you.
Quote from my wife when I told her I liked Tebow, but that he sucks as a QB
Posted 10 May 2013 - 11:03 AM
MlorinczJ, on 10 May 2013 - 10:40 AM, said:
And in response, yes, I'm being negative towards you.
Can we change 115s name to Negative Nancy?
Posted 10 May 2013 - 11:16 AM
Posted 10 May 2013 - 12:03 PM
MlorinczJ, on 10 May 2013 - 08:40 AM, said:
And in response, yes, I'm being negative towards you.
negative and condescending. well done kid. no go suck on your mommys boob for comfort. Sorry that you get picked on in school too BTW. its ok. alot of angry internet people have the same thing happen to them. also if you would just go get laid you'd probably be less angry as well
Also you argument lacks an sense. you say the boston bombing is negative but base don your logic isn't it neutral since some people found it positive? you know the terrorists and all probably think it turned out quite well. So again you are the one always attacking me and being negative.
Posted 10 May 2013 - 12:33 PM
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Great write up, looking forward to seeing more of your stuff
Seatin - I made it through 90% of the "Working As Intended" vid before deciding I was thirsty and would continue to drink my tea. I was wrong to do that, and now my nostrils are tea-ified, and my forward key is broken.
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Amazing write up sir! Man if I had the money right now to buy SL I would! But it's going to be about 3 more weeks until I do and I'll be done with school!
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On the topic of Warrior issues and current news, RaidLock did another episode today entitled 'Who Tested This ****'
It's got a bit on SL progression, a bit on Warrior DPS and a lot on Warrior tanking.
Apparently they couldn't find anyone better so Roughraptors pulled me in as a last minute special guest.
If you missed the stream it should be available at twitch.tv/raidlockrift
Apparently it's going to be uploaded to Itunes and a few other places, but I don't know what the deal is with that.
I watched that stream, Primal. Twitch follower.
Thanks for being a voice of sanity for Warrior tanks. I read your posts on off. forums.
You forgot to mention no customer support in the EU, must have had at least half a dozen guildies ticket various broken quest, and no replies for 6 days lol
I know that american mormon festival happened but, doesn't Rift have any EU support during this period, it sure feels like its missing.
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And with the return of old players, some of whom haven't played since patch 1.1 or 1.3, who knows how many tickets are being filed for silly things that are understood by the regular players. hello, I'm level 23 and my planar attunement isn't working. I read all about it, but i've been out of the game for the last year or so. Why isn't my PA working? please help me fix this ASAP!!!!


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I am shocked and dismayed by the destruction caused by the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico. One of the big reasons for this disaster is the withdrawal of hundreds of millions of acres of land from oil exploration for wilderness acres and national monuments, etc. I cannot imagine why an oil company would spend billions of dollars sinking a one mile deep oil well out in the ocean if they could get the same production for a very small fraction of the cost to drill a similar well or wells on land if the land were open to oil exploration. It just makes no sense.
Land that has been turned into wilderness might just as well have all of the gooey, smelly sludge from this disaster dumped on it as the land has become worthless and unusable for any reasonable use. It as wilderness cannot create jobs or pay taxes. Just imagine how much tax money could be raised for the school system if millions of acres of land had not been removed from mining, oil exploration, and grazing cattle instead of denying the school system this much needed money by creating more wilderness. It makes no sense. To add insult to injury conservation groups are trying to get another 140,000 acres of public land withdrawn from oil exploration near Strawberry Reservoir. There is no end to their ridiculous demands, as well as 33,000 acres in Salt Lake County.


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Skip to comments.Harry Carey Jr., Western character actor known for 3 Godfathers, Wagon Master, dies at 91
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Harry Carey Jr., a character actor who starred in such Westerns as 3 Godfathers and Wagon Master, has died. He was 91.
His daughter, Melinda Carey, said he died Thursday of natural causes surrounded by family at a hospice facility in Santa Barbara, Calif.
He went out as gracefully as he came in, she said Friday.
Careys career spanned more than 50 years and included such John Ford classics as She Wore a Yellow Ribbon, The Searchers and The Long Gray Line. Later in life, he appeared in the movies Gremlins and Back to the Future Part III.
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"3 Godfathers" was one of the most formative films of my youth. I have not seen it for 40 years, yet remember almost every scene in it.
Dang. Just saw him in 3 Godfathers on the TV a few days ago. Really liked his father, too. Both fine actors.
He was known for a lot more than those two movies, a significant character in "Red River" for example, another movie with him in it(small part)was "Only Angels have wings". He played a lot of bit parts in westerns, a good actor who never quite made super star status but worked steadily none the less.
Just saw Red River the other day. Rest in peace, Harry Carey.
"Really liked his father too. Both fine actors."
Yes, back when actors and actresses had class, not ass and didn't act like one.
Notice how many actors from the 40's/50's served in WW2.
Durning, Klugman, Carey, Jr. Try to find more than a handful today who served in Iraq or Afghanistan.
Wife and I went to a "Spin n' Marty" retrospective at the Gene Autry Museum here in LA a few years ago. Harry mentioned during intros that he'd lately, "Been in a little film called 'Tombstone'", and the entire audience broke out in applause.
Fine actor. Great guy.
Correction on Post 4. Harey Jr. didn't play in "Only Angels have wings". That was Sr. Another fine actor. They both played in Red River however.
***3 Godfathers was one of the most formative films of my youth. I have not seen it for 40 years, yet remember almost every scene in it.****
It is often on TCM. You know there are SEVEN versions?
Broncho Billy and the Baby (1915) (Short)
The Three Godfathers (1916)
Marked Men (1919) (Staring Harry Carey Sr)
Hell's Heroes (1929)
Three Godfathers (1936)
3 Godfathers (1948)
The Godchild (1974) (TV Movie) This one stunk to high heaven!
And I thought he was famous for singing "Take Me Out To The Ballpark".
Holy cow.
Sorry to hear this news as I am a big fan of his. RIP Harry.
A good western character actor, following in the footsteps of his generally more famous father. He made a lot of appearances on "Have Gun Will Travel" through its run. Usually think of him always playing a boyish-faced rancher, but he could be a pretty effective villain at times too.
Really one of the last character actors fully associated with the western genre, both on film and tv... that group of prolific actors in the vein of Ben Johnson, Jack Elam, Leo Gordon, etc.
bttt - RIP
Who thought he was dead?
Character actors never get as much credit as they deserve. Sometimes you don't learn or remember their names, but there they are, in movie after movie, year after year and you always recognize them on sight. I'll miss Mr. Carey.
Prayers up... RIP
God bless his Soul. You gave many people much enjoyment, Prayers for your family at this time.
That was nice of whomever to include that table of veteran "cowboys".
(However, I thought the filming/editing of the stunt doubles scampering away from the table crash left a lot to be desired.)
There was an earlier version which was filmed, in part, in Bodie, CA (before its last fire). In spite of its early production, it was also a great movie.
That was my favorite version as well... Charles Bickford, Raymond Hatton, and Fred Kohler. Craggy faces all. And each with an unnerving sense of real menace, which made that version more powerful, as it played out. Harsh and hard-edged, without a single shred of Hollywood gloss.
Another early-talkie western gem was "Law and Order" with Harry Carey Jr.'s father.
Just damn. My favorite John Wayne cavalry/western is She Wore A Yellow Ribbon. I'd like to think Ben Johnson, Wayne and Carey are together again riding the range on the big ranch in the sky.
Most of the WW2 generation served before ever becoming famous or actors. Male actors generally didn't become famous at a young age till the 1950s when the Montgomery Clift/ Marlon Brando school came in.
Dobe came by his horsemanship the easy way, growing up on the family ranch.
There must have been some filming nearby because they never kept this many horses on the ranch.
Harry Carey Jr., known as Dobe because his red hair was the same shade as the red adobe clay on the ranch, and his sister Emma at play with the Navajo kids who lived on the ranch. Emma was a baby when she first went on her Dad's schooner down at Balboa and he repeatedly asked how his little captain was doing. From then on she was known as Cappy.
I meant to post sooner but didn't have the time. Harry Carey's ranch is just a few miles from my home. Its where Dobe and his sister Cappy grew up. The ranch has since been subdivided but the main house has been preserved in San Francisquito Canyon. Its actually the second house as the original burned down when Jr. was a lad. It had survived the flood when the St. Francis Dam ruptured in 1928 only to burn down a few years later.
The following is from Dobe's memoir "Company of Heroes." Apparently Charlie Russel sometimes lived and painted at the ranch and here Dobe recalls the visits. Interestingly, William S. Hart lived a few miles away in Newhall and purchased several nice paintings from Russel which are still displayed at Hart's ranch house, now a museum.
"...In 1926, when I was five years old, the great Western artist and sculptor Charles M. Russell passed away. I have heard that most children cannot remember very much about their lives before five or six years of age, but I remember him. He was a little boy's dream, with his stories of his life as a real cowboy in Montana and his magic artist's hands. he, like my father, always had a roll-your-own Bull Durham cigarette hanging out of the corner of his mouth. Some of his ample grey hair fell on either side of his forehead. i would always sit beside him. In those days, presliced bread was unknown, and a whole loaf would sit on a platter in the middle of the dining room table. He would nudge me with his knee and ask, "What kind of animal shall we make this morning?"
I would usually say, "A horse."
"With that he would reach into the center of the loaf of bread and pull out a hunk from the middle, dip a hand into his glass of water, and knead the bread to make it more pliable. Then he put both hands out of sight under the table, and when he brought them back up, there would be a little white horse that he would place in front of me. He could use up a whole loaf of bread in a short space of time making coyotes, goats - all kinds of little animals."
"Charley and my father would sit at that big dining room table drinking coffee and swapping out-West stories from about six in the morning till lunch. In the afternoon, Charely would go down to paint in the adobe cabin my father had built for him. The next morning, there they both would be once more, talking - talking - talking, until my mother finally ran them out..."
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Ham with Apples and Blanche de Chambly
Serves 8
Preparation time: 15 minutes
Cooking time: 45 minutes
- 1 cup Blanche de Chambly
- 1/2 cup brown sugar
- 1 cup maple syrup
- 4 lb. precooked ham
- 1 tbsp. butter
- 1 cup onions, chopped
- 1/2 cup celery, chopped
- 1/2 cup carrots, chopped
- 8 red apples, whole
- 1 cup fat-skimmed, unsalted beef bouillon
- 1 cup Blanche de Chambly
- 1 tbsp. corn starch stirred into a bit of water
Preheat oven to 350°F.
In a bowl, combine beer, brown sugar, and maple syrup.
Place ham in a buttered roasting pan and baste with syrup sauce. Add onions, celery, and carrots.
Bake 30 to 40 minutes. Halfway through cooking time, place the apples in the roasting pan and baste apples and ham with lemon juice.
When done, remove ham and apples from roasting pan and place on a serving dish. Set aside.
Add bouillon and beer to cooking juices and simmer 5 minutes. Thicken with corn starch.
Spoon sauce over ham just before serving.
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EAST CARBON- Norma Irene Rosenbach, age 79, passed away at her home in East Carbon on April 3, 2012. She was born Jan. 25, 1933 in Layton, Utah to David George and Martha Elizabeth Connell Johnstun. Married Earl Glen Rosenbach Nov. 4, 1966. He died Aug. 4, 1998.
A luncheon in celebration of Norma's life will be held Saturday, April 14, 2012 from 1-3 p.m. at her home in East Carbon. Arrangements entrusted to Mitchell Funeral Home of Price where friends are welcome to share memories of Norma online at www.mitchellfuneralhome.net.


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Dezario Val Wedge Sandal
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Simple elegance meets comfort with the Dezario Val. This wedge sandal is perfect for a dressy occasion!
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Elegant Shoe!
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May 25, 2013
Chic Yet Comfy
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Steve Madden Heaven Leopard Snake Ballet Flat
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Enjoy comfort without sacrificing style with the Steve Madden Heaven animal print ballet flat. This is a perfect little shoe to complete your polished look.
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December 05, 2013
Love them!
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October 24, 2013
Buy these flats but in a different color/pattern
"The heaven flat is my favorite style of all the SM flats and I have almost all colors and patterns. When I saw that it came in leopard I had to order it immediately. I would have rated 5 stars but the print is somewhat subtle and not necessarily in a good way. :-\ It looks almost plain from a distance. Otherwise in terms of comfort and style, the heaven flats are amazing!"
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The Lulu Townsend Antoinette sandal is the essence of femininity! The oversized flower on this strappy sandal will add a bold splash to your next special evening.
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December 14, 2013
Sooo pretty!
"I'm still breaking in these shoes, but so far they are much more comfortable than they look. The low heel makes it much easier to walk in. I ordered these in the light purple color, and it was just as beautiful in person as it was in the picture, color was pictured accurately. I received many compliments just in the first day. These shoes dress up any outfit, perfect for any black-tie or fancy event. I got a blister on one foot from the shoe, but again still breaking them in. Don't think they'll be much of a problem after that. =] I do wish they were a little more padded though, since I tend to do a lot of walking. But they are totally gorgeous and I don't regret buying them in the least!"
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Pretty Color and Style
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Check out the solar eclipse, courtesy of an updated photo stream, taken from the solar telescope at Auckland Observatory's Stardome.
In New Zealand, Northlanders will get the best view when it reaches "maximum coverage" and the moon obscures 89 per cent of the sun at 10.25am in Whangarei.
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Chris and Courtnee Justice have purchased the former Wilcox Laundry in Castle Dale. They have renamed the laundromat, CC's Laundry.
They have installed nine new washers and have four large capacity washers for sleeping bags and blankets.
Marsha World has been employed at the laundry for 26 years. She said dry cleaning has come a long way over the years and the new chemical used doesn't have a smell like it did before. "You can drop off laundry and dry cleaning and it will be done the next day. We also do pressing. Laundry is charged by the pound and we return it to you washed, dried and folded. You can dry clean suits, slacks, dresses, shirts, comforters, coats, drapes, and both womens and mens clothes."
The laundry is open 7 a.m. - 9 p.m. and the dry cleaning is open Tuesday through Friday from 8 a.m. to 4 p.m.
Courtney said, "We hope one day to have a mobile laundry service. But for now you can call me at 820-0594 and you can drop off laundry-dry cleaning at my house from the north end of the county and we will bring it back. We really want to accommodate the north end of the county and help them to use this service. It's a 24 hour turnaround for the dry cleaning. Marsha does a great job and she presses clothes if you don't have time, just drop them off. They are really nice with a crease. If you need to drop off clothes when Marsha isn't there, you can bring them next door to the insurance office.
Wilcox Laundry was established in 1963 by Grandpa Wilcox and was in the family until the present time.
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BaBylissPRO Carrera 2 Ceramic Ionic Hair Dryer
- Overview
- Features
- 25% Less Weight - weighs less, delivers more air pressure and higher heat than standard full size dryers
- 25% More Compact - smaller housing with ergonomically designed handle offers more styling control and comfort
- 50% More Power - minimum 1900 watt performance
- Ionic technology - leaves hair shiny, silky and more manageable by splitting water molecules to drastically reduce drying time
- Ceramic - increases heat distribution to eliminate damaging hot spots caused by non-professional dryers and also emits ions that assist in the breakdown of bacteria. Renews and enhances the vitality of your hair, making it smooth and silky with exceptional shine.
- Narrow concentrator nozzle
- Unsurpassed power-to-weight ratio
- Extended life professional AC Motor
- 6 heat and speed settings
- Instant cool shot button
- Soft-touch rubberized surface
- Removable filter
- 9-foot professional cord
- 3-year limited warranty
- About the brand
The BaBylissPRO Carrera 2 Ceramic Ionic Hair Dryer combines high heat and powerful air pressure in a compact design that makes for optimum styling performance. Its ceramic ionic technology generates negative ions that dry hair quickly while eliminating static and frizz.
The Carrera's infrared heat technology closes the hair cuticle and quickly dries hair from the inside out. Both styling time and damage will be cut in half. We love to turn up the heat and the BaBylissPRO Carrera 2 Ceramic Ionic Hair Dryer creates exceptional air pressure and great high temperatures, which is the mix for a beautiful blowout.
Model#: BABP6685 / SKU: A8549
BaBylissPRO is a world leader in hair care and styling tools, known for creating endless possibilities. These professional tools help you get salon-quality results at home.
Love At First Use.As a teenager with thick curly hair, having the perfect blow dryer was and still is very important. I did much research and came upon the BabylissPro Carrera 2, which I decided to order. It literally took my 10 minuets to completly dry my hair compared to the 30 minuets it would usually take me with my Conair dryer.
This dryer is the best I've ever laid my hands on, it gets nice and hot and dries nice and fast leaving your hair smooth and very soft. It isnt extremly heavy but isnt light, it is just right! If has a perfectly long cord which is very convienent! I couldnt resist writing a review for it!Jan 6, 2013Ericka H.HAIR TYPEDark Brown / Dry Hair / Curly Hair / Thick or Coarse Hair
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Amazing!!I wanted to bring my hair to the next level at home like I get at the salon and this dryer has helped me do it!! Actually my stylist (who does hair out at New York fashion week) told me about Folica and he uses a Babyliss so I figured what was good for him will work for me at home.
I have course, wavy, curley shoulder length hair and this dryer totally does the trick for me with getting my hair straight, soft and manageable! I have used it twice and totally love it. For the price a wonderful value. I had a drug store type hair dryer which just blew my hair into a big frizzy mess and this one has the quick drying power that I needed!
I would totally recommend this product. Outstanding value for the money.Dec 14, 2012Sue / Franklin, WIHAIR TYPEDark Brown / Curly Hair / Thick or Coarse Hair / Chemically Treated Hair
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Great Blow Dryer!!I love this blow dryer. I have thick hair and blow drying takes forever. This blow dryer cut my drying time in half. I could feel the difference between the 'blowing power' of this dryer and others. the blow dryer is heavy but I prefer a heavy dryer that works rather than a light one that doesn't! Great blow dryer!Nov 22, 2012MaddiHAIR TYPEDark Brown / Thick or Coarse Hair
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The "black Girl's Hair" Blow Dryer!This blow dryer is not for thin straight hair! It is for coarse, curly-wavy hair types because it is EXTREMELY powerful & HOT! So hot that if you plug it in near your smoke alarm, it will go off! Seriously! It happened to me.... so I just use it in my bathroom far from the smoke alarm. Love the soft rubbery feel of the handle. Just be really careful because you can burn your scalp if you are not cautious!Nov 15, 2012Beatriz / Central JerseyHAIR TYPEDark Brown / Curly Hair
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Where's The Heat?Even though I have fine, thin hair, I know what it is capable of. It IS capable of holding some sort of body, as long as I used my 10 year old Bio-Ionic hairdryer. I MUST use ionic on my hair because it won't cause my fine strands to break, yet it must blow HOT. People are amazed that I don't have split ends since I blowdry every day, but it's because of the ionic conditioning.
Obviously, when my hairdryer broke in August, I found the exact same model online, only 10 years newer. I was hugely disappointed when it was not nearly as hot as my old one, and the fan speed was way too strong, blowing my hair off the brush. Perhaps my old dryer was malfunctioning and should NOT have been that hot, but it worked on my hair, and I assumed the new one would be equally good. CRAP! I ran to Walmart and got an orange Conair Infinity Pro Ionic dryer. It has decent heat, but the fan still blows too hard, but it would hold me over. I then found Folica, and I thank them tremendously for allowing people to try products and return them if they don't work for our hair type.
I used these reviews to scout out a new dryer, and since I can return them if they fail to work with my hair type, it was the best choice. I chose the Sedu Revolution Pro 3600 Lightweight Ionic first. I'm not sure if every Sedu employee has written favorable reviews for this hairdryer, or if it works amazingly well on every other hair type in the world, but for fine hair, IT FAILED MISERABLY! It has NO heat whatsoever, and my hair looked not only lifeless, but had a sticky residue, even though I used the exact same products that I used with my old dryer and had fabulous results. It also had way too high of a fan speed that blew my hair into a tangled mess, and blew it right off the brush. This dryer would not hold any volume in my hair. The only thing good about it is that it's lightweight. Big whip-dee-do. For $160? Are you kidding me? This is such a disappointment.
My second choice was the Babyliss Pro Carrera because people actually wrote that it was so hot they burned their brushes. Really? Did you leave it turned on and went to bed? This dryer was also a huge disappointment because it also was NOT HOT enough to do anything with fine hair. If your goal is lifeless, flat hair, then get this one! And the Sedu too!
I tried yet again, and ordered the SuperSolano, which had mostly great reviews from people who claimed to have fine hair. Well, it had the slower motor speed that held my hair on the brush, but the heat seemed to be missing completely from it. It had 3 heat settings, but the first one was cool air. How can you honestly claim this is a heat setting? The highest heat setting was still cooler than the Conair, and it took much longer to dry my hair because of the lower fan speed. Yes, I know that's what I was looking for, but I need HIGH HEAT along with the slow fan speed. Why is it so hard to find a low fan speed and high heat dryer? Is it OSHA regulations or something stupid like that?
So now I'm frustrated, and have been using the $30 Conair. It blows hotter than the $160 Sedu and hotter than the $80 Babyliss Pro, and SuperSolano. And yes, I'm sure. I held each dryer up to the sides of my exposed stomach to feel which was hotter, and the Conair was always the winner. I'm beginning to think I won't find a better blowdryer because they just aren't made the same way anymore. It's a shame. I did see my hairdresser today and he said his favorite dryer is a Babyliss with a Ferrari motor, although he currently uses Solano. It's sold by Folica for $229. Do I try yet another one? I feel bad that I keep returning them, but they just aren't hot enough to hold volume in my hair. If I try it, and it works, look for my review on that product. There are only 5 as of this writing, so it won't be hard to miss.Nov 6, 2012Cheryl / New YorkHAIR TYPEFine or Thin Hair
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Great Dryer & Shopping Experience!This dryer is great. Easy to use and loved all the different settings. Made styling my hair very easy!!Sep 19, 2012MarleneHAIR TYPEMedium Brown / Normal Hair / Color Treated Hair
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Not So Heavy As I ExpectedAfter reading some reviews, I was concerned with how heavy this hair dryer would be. I don't think its heavy at all. Its no lightweight, but its definitely on average. The buttons were a little awkward, a little different than what I am used to. I will sometimes make a slip and shut off the dryer, but its not a total inconvenience. I think it does dry my hair faster, it also keeps the frizz in check. I've only had it a couple of weeks, but so far I am happy with this purchase.Aug 15, 2012Andrea / MAHAIR TYPEDry Hair / Color Treated Hair / Fine or Thin Hair
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Hot Heat-dead Dry Hair!I have owned this hair dryer for about a year now. I have fine curly hair. At first i thought it was great because I know longer needed to use my flat iron....but in the long run my hair has never looked worse.I have melted 5 salon hairbrushes, burned the carpet in my bedroom (it went through the towel i rest it on while getting ready!!), not to mention its extremely heavy to hold and you have to position your hand in a specific way to maneuver not hitting the control buttons. I would not waste buying this purchase, unless you want dry, damaged hair in record time. After burning through several hairbrushes made out of horse hair and stronger materials i realized it was my hairdryer causing the dry dead dull look. Stay far away if you want beautiful hair.
Aug 13, 2012Jessica A.HAIR TYPEDark Brown / Oily Hair / Curly Hair / Fine or Thin Hair
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FinallyI'm comparing this dryer with the TT 5000, and in playing around with both...the amount of air is about the same, but the Carrera has more focused air, where the TT is diffused, making it somewhat softer. The TT is hotter on medium heat with both the low and high fan. The Carrera is quite a bit heavier, but feels better made, and they are the same size (looks like the casing is the same mold.) Dryers affect my hair very dramatically, my hair is fine, but I have alot of it, and for the most part. it's pretty straight. Most dryers have too much push, and blow my hair into a cotton candy poofy mess, drying it out and making it frizzy. After trying Solano (3300 Lite, regular), Croc AC, Remington Pearl, Elchim Classic and 3200, Sedu (6000 and 3600), and pretty much everything at Sally's - they all had too much air pressure and dried my hair so fast that I couldn't style it. In theory, the TT is what I was looking for because my hair needs softer air with a little heat, and it made my hair somewhat shinier and it was a little easier to smooth out the funky little wave I have in the back. However, it also made it much darker (kind of defeats the purpose of highlights), where the Carrera leaves my hair looking the right color. The Carrera may take me a few minutes longer, and blows my hair around a little more - but I feel like I have more control and my ends feel softer than with the TT. I also struggle with static, and with either, it's somewhat minimized, although there's probably less static with the TT. Both are fairly quiet, with the TT slightly quieter, particularly on low, but it has a slight higher pitch on the high fan. I also tried the TT 3000, which is hotter and has stronger air force than the other two. So for me, after using the Carrera for 2 weeks, I find my hair is getting healthier with less damage and breakage, and seems to be getting back to what my hair is supposed to look like.
Aug 5, 2012Kelley / MIHAIR TYPEBlonde / Dry Hair / Color Treated Hair / Fine or Thin Hair / Thick or Coarse Hair
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Get Professional Looking Styled HairI am sitting in LAX coming back from vacation where the Hotel (Mr. C Beverly Hills-highly recommend) had this hair dryer, and could not wait to purchase it. My hair actually looks the same as when I have my hair professionally done, and was never able to achieve same look even with flat ironing. It's lighter than my older con air, and leaves my hair super straight, shiny and no frizzes, and in half the time! I didn't even have to use my flat iron (although I had it with me). A word of causation, it does get VERY VERY HOT!!! I was not use to the heat, and it literally melted my hair brush, when using the concentrator. My hair however, not damaged, just super soft and straight. I like other reviewers also used the Moroccan, or similar substitute. I just bought it with the discount, less than $50.00, well worth it!! Can't wait to get it.Jul 31, 2012Andrea / ConnecticutHAIR TYPEMedium Brown / Color Treated Hair
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