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Located in Nauvoo's Historic Downtown District the Woodruff Hotel welcomes its guests into the original 1871 Temple House building. Recognized in the National Registry of Historic Places, and standing high among the city's revered landmarks, this special Nauvoo hotel is named after one of Nauvoo's early distinguished and beloved residents. . . Wilford Woodruff.
People that come to Nauvoo looking for a unique experience stay at the Willard Richards Inn. Instead of simply visiting the historic sites, stay in one and make the whole experience more memorable. The Willard Richards Inn is located in the heart of the Historic District of Nauvoo, boasting beautiful views of the Nauvoo Temple and only steps away from the Nauvoo Pageant.
This beautifully restored 1860s home offers four rooms, a full kitchen, a hot tub and the convenience of walking distance to everything in beautiful Nauvoo.
Experience Nauvoo in an original pioneer brick home. Built in 1846, the Mix house is located on historic Parley Street. With many period furnishings, this accurately restored home retains the feel of the period while providing modern comforts. The Mix House is 1.3 miles from the Temple, 1 mile from the Old Nauvoo Burial Grounds, Nauvoo State Park and the Rheinberger Museum. With farm ground on all four sides, enjoy country living within the city limits, complete with cattle and horses! In addition, Illinois' oldest operating winery is located an easy 5 minute walk along Parley Street.
This furnished 2-bedroom farm house provides the luxuries of the quiet life, just outside of Nauvoo, IL. Enjoy over 100 acres, pond, walking trails, and even a barn for your horses.
Whimsical treehouse village for nightly rentals. Spend a relaxing, quiet night in a treehouse on 10 acres of secluded timber! Experience outdoor showers from the porch, Kitchenette, Wifi,pets welcome. Two treehouses available, 220 sq. ft Whitetail cabin sleeps 2-4, the Captains Quarters 400 sq. ft. sleeps 4-6. To book or look at availability visit www.vrbo.com. The most unique lodging in Western Illinois.
This beautiful Nauvoo home is situated on ten wooded acres in the country, about 8 miles from the temple. It is a split level and perfect for larger groups or families! There is plenty of room for parking, including RVs. The home features three bedrooms, all with queen beds, on the upper level, sharing a full-bath. The large living room has plenty of seating with a large spacious sectional that is also a sleeper sofa. Pianist will enjoy the Yamaha grand piano! And Also enjoy the Overhead Projection system with BluRay player and DISH network available for movie night with the family. High speed wireless internet is available throughout the home. The spacious kitchen will accommodate large families and has everything you need for your home away from home! Downstairs is a large family room with a couch and futon, and a beautiful fireplace as a center for family visiting. This room has been recently remodeled and also features a flat screen TV with DISH and BluRay player. There is a full bath with shower and tub on this level. The home has central air-conditioning for comfort during the summer months. The home comfortably sleeps 8 adults, and there is room for children and toddlers in sleeping bags on the floor. Large families will appreciate the seclusion of this home, where there is plenty of room on the back deck for bar-b-que, and the newly added fire pit area is great for a campfire for family games and fun, yet just a few minutes from historic old Nauvoo!
Scenic Country Getaway- 5 minutes from downtown Nauvoo Private room, homecooked breakfast and baked goods.
The Rufus Abbott Manor affords you the opportunity to stay in a Nauvoo Mormon Pioneer home! This historic home is just seven blocks from the Nauvoo Temple and sleeps up to ten comfortably. This home feels and looks like what it may have in the 1840's thus letting you 'Sleep Where the Pioneer's Slept'. The original pioneer brick home has three bedrooms (two upstairs) and an old fashioned parlor with library, collectible curio cabinet, historic fireplace and mantle, and a queen size sofa sleeper. The sun porch also contains a breakfast bar with toaster and microwave for our guests. The master suite is on the main level in a 1903 addition to the original brick home. This large suite has a king size bed, full-size sofa sleeper, armoire, and 32" flat screen TV.
Enjoy your visit to Nauvoo in this nearly 1700 square foot retreat with a large deck and fantastic view of the Mississippi River! Only two miles from the LDS Visitor's Center, this home is close to the restored homes and businesses of Old Nauvoo, including the temple, yet secluded as a retreat from the hustle bustle of touring. This 4 bedroom home sleeps up to sixteen including the cabin located on the property. The home has two bedrooms on the main floor, each with a queen bed, and a master suite upstairs with a queen bed and full size sofa sleeper. In addition, there is a full size bed in the loft bedroom, plus a queen size sofa sleeper in the living room. The large kitchen will provide the appliances and kitchen needs for a large family, and the kids will love the spiral stairway to the upstairs, in addition to the regular stair access. Two bathrooms on the main floor (one with shower only, the other with a bath/shower combination) and a washer and dryer are also available for guest's use, and the home is air conditioned for comfort. This home also includes high speed internet access and Dish TV. The deck is a great place for a bar-b-q and entertaining as guests enjoy the view of the nearby Mississippi River. The optional cabin, with skylight, air conditioning and electric heat, contains two bunk beds.
A genuine getaway. Perfect river view, charming interior, queen bed & hide a bed couch, sundeck.
The Prairie Winds Motel is conveniently located 1 mile west of Carthage, IL on US 136. Clean, comfortable, and affordable, the Prairie Winds Motel has free high speed internet, truck parking and weekly rates available.
Paradise-In-Nauvoo is a new addition to the string of popular Nauvoo vacation homes. The home is located just a block from the town's main Hotel and a few blocks from the Temple (walking distance). This solidly built charmer has a general store directly across the street (Casey's General Store). If you're passionate about Nauvoo you'll love this centrally located cozy, cuddly, adorable, cheerful and vibrant home! The owners of this property are from Hawaii and simply could not resist the opportunity to greet all guest with a warm Aloha as demonstrated in the Hawaiian theme of the house. Currently there are 2 queen size hand crafted beds, 2 queen size sleeper sofas, and a twin bed. 1 40" Television and one TV with built-in DVD player. Washer/dryer, Three bedrooms and three bathrooms on the main floor. The living room is connected to a cozy little study area, which has been turned into the TV room and additional sleeping area if needed. Home is situated on approximately 1/3 of an acre.
Nauvoo Vacation Villas & Condos
Among the many choices for Nauvoo accommodations, the condos at Nauvoo Villas offer a peaceful retreat for the busy tourist, families and other groups. The condos offer spacious rooms, full kitchens, high speed Internet, and satellite TV. We look forward to your visit to Nauvoo!
Nauvoo Vacation Rentals is a division of Nauvoo Property Services, LLC. We have been renting homes in Nauvoo since 2002. Our goal is to offer accommodations in and around Nauvoo which provide guests with a home away from home. The homes are completely furnished and include comfortable beds with all the bedding and linens provided. Some also feature sofa sleepers, futons or spare beds for additional guests. Fully equipped kitchens provide refrigerator, stove, oven and microwave allowing you to prepare meals and snacks. See each location's description for details regarding furnishings and amenities. Our goal is to provide you with all the conveniences of home during your stay in Nauvoo, however, all locations are smoke-free and pets are not permitted.
Enjoy home away from home in the new Nauvoo Vacation condos in historic Nauvoo. Full kitchen and laundry facilities.
Camp Nauvoo is a beautiful 30 acre campground located on the south side of Historic Nauvoo. Set on a bluff overlooking the Mississippi River, Camp Nauvoo offers a spectacular view. Nauvoo's Historic sites are only 1.2 miles away and the LDS Temple is approximately 1.4 miles north of the campgrounds. It is a great place for youth groups and family reunions - plenty of space. Give us a call (217-453-9930 or send us an email (firstname.lastname@example.com) and we will get back to you.
For those who want to experience life in Old Nauvoo but want to stay in spacious elegance, rent an entire mansion and bring your extended family. Six bedrooms and top notch amenities near the Mississippi River.
Capture the Spirit of Pioneering in a Log Cabin! Choose from state of the art new cabins or feel the history and listen to the stories from the rustic old logs in an authentic hand hewn Pioneer Log Cabin home. These cabins will capture your heart and kindle your spirit.
Capture the Spirit of pioneering in a Log Cabin! Choose from state of the art new cabins or feel the history and listen to the stories from the rustic old logs in an authentic hand hewn Pioneer Log Cabin home. These cabins will capture your heart and kindle your spirit.
Nauvoo Grand Bed and Breakfast
This turn-of-the-century home has been transformed into Nauvoo's only luxury accommodations, offering the grace and intimacy of Victorian times. Perched on a gentle rise, it is surrounded by vineyards and is across the street from Illinois' oldest winery.
Indoor pool & whirlpool; fireplace & jacuzzi suites.
Nauvoo Family Inn is a welcoming place. We want you to get the most out of your family vacation or Nauvoo wedding without stressing over your hotel situation. Check out our Rooms page for hotel amenities and room options. From our standard rooms with 2 queen beds, to our fully equipped family suites or bunk rooms; we are sure to accommodate families and groups of any size. We aren't just any old traditional family inn. We also provide an indoor heated swimming pool and additional services such as an on-site restaurant in a country style setting.
Deer Meadows is secluded and quiet! Surrounded by over 60 acres of woods and meadows for hiking. Keep your eyes open for deer & turkey. Kids love to catch frogs & fireflies and cruise the pond in the paddleboat. Families, large or small, will enjoy our spacious suite with family room (Satellite TV, VCR, DVD with abundance of great movies), full bath & convenient kitchenette. 2 bedrooms, 1 full and 3 queen beds plus sleeper sofa. Spacious accomodations for couples with queen bed and full, private bath. 1 room with kitchenette. Relax in the hot tub or sit on the deck. Make your dinner on the bar-b-que grill. You may be lucky enough to hear coyotes howl or the whip-poor-will call. Or, roast hot dogs on the campfire.


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When it comes to shipping, e-retailers must often go beyond waiving delivery charges to win over customers.
Take Ontario-based Stratus Vineyards, which sells premium wines. It not only ships beverages via temperature-controlled trucks—excessive heat and cold can foul wine—but sends its most loyal shoppers personalized notes of thanks. "Wine is a premium product, a very respected product, as opposed to something more generic," says Suzanne Janke, director of hospitality and retail. "It's not a widget, and it's important to us to make sure that the experience is an exciting as possible."
While increasing the pace and scope of shipping constitutes a prime focus of e-commerce operators going into 2013—in early December, for instance, Google Inc. bought BufferBox Inc., a service that lets consumers have their web orders delivered to secured lockers in the Toronto metropolitan area—some retailers also are trying to stand out by offering special delivery treatment for certain products. "That last mile, if it doesn't work out correctly, can really spoil the experience for customers," says Josh Klaristenfeld, co-founder and executive vice president of operations for Dazadi Inc., which sells pool tables, shuffleboards, pinball machines and related products.
Dazadi has to do more than offer free shipping, as many of its products are too large to be dropped at a customer's door. That's why for some items, the e-retailer offers not only delivery into a room or office, but unpacking, assembly, installation and debris removal. Such a service not only saves Dazadi customers from worrying about damaging their pricey purchases, throwing out their backs and cursing the narrow stairs in their dwellings while hauling up their new toys. It boosts Dazadi's image for customer service, which can bring shoppers back to the e-commerce site when they desire other games to round out their basements, or need smaller items such as cue sticks.
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Partly as a response to demand for quicker shipments, along with the overall growth in online retail, delivery and fulfillment providers are moving to increase their own capabilities. For instance, OnTrac, which has annual revenue of about $200 million, has over the past year added 1 million square feet of warehouse space to accommodate that growth—a 70% increase from its previous space, Magill says.
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Just for the record: Nagasu scored 109.08 at Nebelhorn 2011---nowhere near the 127.76 Wagner scored at SA 2012. And Internatonal Bs are known for their tendency to overscore.
Just a month after Nebelhorn, Nagasu went on to score 98.99 in the FS for 5th place at Skate Canada 2011; she was beaten by Tuktamysheva (117.81), Suzuki (119.44), Wagner (110.98) and Leonova (102.47).
The problem with Nagasu is that she is like a box of chocolates: you never know what you're going to get. For the past two seasons in the GP, she has medaled at one event and finished off the podium in the other.
BTW, she did go to Skate America in 2008, when she was the reigning US champion. She finished 5th.
ETA: Nagasu scored 163.09 to finish 3rd at Finlandia 2012. If she had scored the same at Skate America, she would have finished 4th.
Her jumps: 3ze, 2a+3t, 3f<, 3f<fall, 3lo+2t, 2a, 3lo----only 3 clean triples.
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Everyone knows Gracie has two GPs.
The question is why wasn't Skate America one of her two assignments?
US Skating lost a chance to showcase their brightest young star the year before the Olympics.
Some say to make sure Ashley could win SA.
That is basically the difference betweena competition and a coronation.
No doubt Christina put a scare into US Skating by easily winning the SP.....and doubt if she will be invited back anytime soon
I do agree on Christina deserving to win the SP or atleast be closer to Wagner and Sotnikova than she was. Wagner had a mistake and a much easier program jump wise, Sotnikova had the same jumps and a big mistake, so while those two have some stronger elements and much better presentation qualities they shouldnt have been 4 points ahead.
This can be a concern for lower ranked skaters, however, as they are less likely to get the needed scores in the preceding season and less likely to get GP assignments this season to make up for it (senior Bs would still be an option, of course). Also for skaters returning after a year off, which is even more worrisome if the reason they missed a season is due to injury.
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I looked up "Rachael Flatt Skate America 2012" and got her skating Firebird in that lovely dress from last season. Did I get the correct program? If so, her jumps look solid, but as some of you have said, nothing else stands out, except the lovely Ina Bauer.


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By GARY ARRINGTONSports writer
Nobody should blame the Green River Pirate basketball team if they finished play for the 2007-08 basketball season tired. All they had to do was play for four straight days, with one game going to triple overtime, and have the same five players score all the points in every ballgame.
Green River started the week at home by hosting Mount Vernon High School on Tuesday night for the right to continue play. In this play-in game, the winner advanced to play the next morning in Richfield and the loser stayed home and their season was over. Green river won this game but it took three overtimes for the Pirates to finally prevail by 2 points. Green River won the game 88-86.
The ball game started at 5 p.m., should have been over at around 6:30 but instead lasted another 30 minutes or so and then the team had to be ready to play at 10 a.m. the next morning in Richfield at the Sevier Valley Center.
Kayden Mecham led the way for Green River with 22 points and 20 rebounds. Jason Johnson and Tyson Johnson each scored 19 points in the extended game and each pulled down at least 10 rebounds. Brennan Bigelow scored 21 points and Luis Mendoza scored 7 points.
Wednesday morning, the Green River team opened the tournament playing Panguitch High School and could not muster enough energy against the well-rested team and lost the game 88-42.
Tyson Johnson led the way with 13 points and was the only Pirate to finish the game in double figures. Mendoza scored 9 points, Bigelow scored 8 points and Mecham and Jason Johnson each scored 6 points.
Green River came back on Thursday and defeated Bryce Valley in consolation play. With all five starters finishing this game in double figures for scoring, the team outlasted their opponent and won 66-61.
Brennan Bigelow was the leading scored this day and finished with 19 points. Tyson Johnson and Mecham each finished the game with 13 points, Mendoza scored 11 points and Jason Johnson scored 10 points.
On Friday, the Pirates season came to a close with a 63-45 loss at the hands of Christian Heritage. Luis Mendoza was the leading scorer in this game and finished with 14 points. Luis scored on four 3-point shots. Luis was the fourth player to be the leading scorer in a game during the week.
Tyson Johnson scored 10 points, Bigelow scored 9 points, Jason Johnson scored 7 points and Mecham scored 5 points.
Although the Pirates did not end placing at the state tournament, they picked up valuable experience by playing the four extra games last week against quality opponents. With the Pirates being a extremely young team, this should bode well for them in the upcoming years.


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Skip to comments.Report: Sarkozy calls Netanyahu 'liar' (Obama AGREES, Caught On Open Mic!)
Posted on 11/07/2011 10:52:07 PM PST by tcrlaf
The conversation then drifted to Netanyahu, at which time Sarkozy declared: "I cannot stand him. He is a liar." According to the report, Obama replied: "You're fed up with him, but I have to deal with him every day!"
The remark was naturally meant to be said in confidence, but the two leaders' microphones were accidently left on, making the would-be private comment embarrassingly public.
The communication faux pas went unnoticed for several minutes, during which the conversation between the two heads of state which quickly reverted to other matters was all but open to members the press, who were still in possession of headsets provided by the Elysée for the sake of simultaneous translation during the G20 press conference.
"By the time the (media) services at the Elysée realize it, it was on for at least three minutes," one journalist told the website. Still, he said that reporters "did not have a chance to take advantage of this fluke."
The surprising lack of coverage may be explained by a report alleging that reporters present at the event were requested to sign an agreement to keep mum on the subject of the embarrassing comments.
A member of the media confirmed Monday that "there were discussions between journalists and they agreed not to publish the comments due to the sensitivity of the issue."
Report: Sarkozy calls Netanyahu 'liar'
Microphones accidently left on after G20 meeting pick up private conversation between US, French presidents. Sarkozy admits he 'can't stand' Israeli premier. Obama: You're fed up with him? I have to deal with him every day!
French President Nicolas Sarkozy reportedly told US President Barack Obama that he could not "stand" Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and that he thinks the Israeli premier "is a liar."
According to a Monday report in the French website "Arret sur Images," after facing reporters for a G20 press conference on Thursday, the two presidents retired to a private room, to further discuss the matters of the day.
The conversation apparently began with President Obama criticizing Sarkozy for not having warned him that France would be voting in favor of the Palestinian membership bid in UNESCO despite Washington's strong objection to the move.
Him and Tony Blair had a similar open mike incident. It didn't get too much traction in the media either.
Uh, No. When Bush and Blair had the open mike incident, it was ALL OV£R the news like white on rice. Are you sure you weren't under a rock? For one thing the BBC reporter (and you can probably find it on youtube) reported with GLEE that Bush said '....so I told them someone ought to tell the X to stop doing this sh*t...' etc. etc.
"didnt get too much traction in the media either."
What planet were you living on in those days, because on THIS PLANET, Bush calling a reporter an asshole on an open mic was the lead story FOR DAYS....
Translation: Bibi lives in his head.
WONderDOG ("They talk about me like I'm a dog") still can't shake the Zionist merit badge Netanyahu so skillfully bestowed upon him at the UN.
Obama's Jewish base should completely abandon him now (except for the hardcore Alinsky Marxists). Ironically, this will probably boost Sarko's standing in the French polls.
so are we all looking forward to Rush telling his 35 million listeners this? and will we hear it on MSNBC? ahh,,,nope,,Herman Cain feeling up white women is priority.
They probably wanted the world to hear what they said to discredit Israel and up their standings in the Arab world.
The Frogs and the wannabe Frog.
Zero's entire life has been an incident.
If it can be verified that Obama and Sarkosky protrayed Netanyahu as a bad guy, the shit is really going to hit the fan, especially with Olmert recently coming out against Iran.
This could be a benefit to the west. Then again...
This will simply because of the topic and the situation developing with Iran. This will be all over the alternative media today. Watch.
I remember when Jesus' name/title wasn't simply an exclamation, especially on a conservative site. Certainly you're not the only one, and I don't mean to single you out, but His name is worthy of worship and allowed for entreaty, but was never meant for being used lightly.
So how did it get published, then?
And they wonder why their credibility has gone into the crapper.
Le frog & the Kenyan Muslim!!!!!
We have new allies now. The Muzzie Brotherhood.
Israel can pound sand as long as a Muzzie sympathizer occupies the White Hut.
"Bush calling a reporter an asshole on an open mic was the lead story FOR DAYS...."
Was this the Bush/Cheney open mic moment? I believe it was "first class asshole." I also remember the issue being about how children would react to the fact that a leader used this type of language.
It will hold firm because they are left of Lenin hard core liberal loons who basically go not believe in the legal existence of Israel at all - I know a few of them down here in Florida and the ignorance is appalling
Remember when the news story is BREAKING or THIS JUST IN the activity behind the curtain goes into high gear.
It was during the 2006 Israeli war and Bush said (with his mouth full of food) something like, Syria needs to quit supplying arms to Hezbollah. And your right, it was plastered all over the news and analysts were all over saying how dumb Bush was.
There's a very good chance Rush will mention this. Why do you think he won't?
Thank you skr. I do wish there was more reverence with His name.
A member of the media confirmed Monday that "there were discussions between journalists and they agreed not to publish the comments due to the sensitivity of the issue."
Any thoughts on whether this could change the decision making process in Israel regarding Iran?
Translation: Bibi lives in his head.
Correct!!! And Bibi knows it.
I wonder who else Obama "has to deal with every day." Probably all of the Republican governors. He certainly seems to be vindictive in his dealings with their states.
So the media will not report on embarrassing things that Obama might have said....go figure. The media in this country is pathetic!
Fixed it.
Not surprising but nonetheless extremely worrying remarks.
Sarkozy is a dangerous man and now proven hater of Israel along with Obama.
2012 can't come soon enough......Israel will be destroyed if Obama wins re election.
For the reasons you skillfully imply, but meta-wise, also because Bibi commands the respect that Bobo and Boneapart can only dream about...
Nothing that Bibi didn't already know I suspect. Most world leaders probably don't like each other very much. Bibi will laugh it off and worry about more important issues.
What is more surprising: that Obama and Sarkozy hate Netanyahu so much or that the media was totally complicit in covering it up?
If youd like to be on or off, please FR mail me.
If youd like to be on or off, please FR mail me.
Dear Sarkozy and Obama:
You may be surprised to learn that many americans have a great deal more respect for Bibi than for either of you two bozos. In fact, if we were allowed, we would vote for Bibi as our own.
Stay classy, Obama ;)
Frankly I'd believe Bibi over Barry any day.
And just think . . . When the S.O.B. gets re-elected, well have another 4 years during which we cannot sit down without great discomfort because of the giant carbuncle on our national butt from this clowns constant digging around in our private parts.
The twerp is a suppurating pustule on the face of America, a bleeding ulcer in our collective belly, a dangling hemorrhoid from our trash-dump portal, a pair of missing incisors from our friendly smile, a slimy blot on our continental landscape, a stack of unpaid bills on The Peoples desk, a trail of muddy footprints across our parlor carpet, an unflushed toilet in our public latrine, an obscenity in our general discourse, and a nightmare in our communal sleep.
And yknow what . . . I bet this wont even cost him the big-city Jewish vote. This sumbitch is very likely gonna be re-elected and spend 4 more years embarrassing and bankrupting the place while accomplishing absolutely nothing of positive value, just basking and grinning in the spotlight and frying up our assets in the fat of the land.
Whats even worse is that whenever he leaves office, hell join the emeritus ranks and flit around delivering speeches on his wonderful accomplishments and how far he dragged the rednecks kicking and screaming along the progressive path toward the golden city of Kumbaya. Hell give anti-American commentary a la Carter, and drag in embarrassingly large sums for blathers-kite and balderdash a la Clinton.
Hes going to wind up being a bigger embarrassment than the Edsel, pet rocks, Roseanne, PeeWee Herman, Susan B. Anthony dollar coins, Watergate, and professional wrestling combined.
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SAN MATEO, Calif. — Square just got thousands of small merchants into the holiday spirit.
The mobile-payments company said it is now offering digital gift cards, so anyone can purchase a card from the 250,000 merchants that accept Square Wallet, an iOS and Android app that lets consumers pay automatically with their smartphones. The gift card recipient only requires an e-mail address.
The service could be a boon to small merchants, many of whom shied away from offering gift cards because creating plastic cards is costly and cumbersome.
"Small businesses have never been able to offer gift cards before," Square CEO Jack Dorsey told USA TODAY. "You can send a Square gift card to anyone with an e-mail address. If they don't have a smartphone, they can print out a QR code."
Dorsey, who created Twitter, made the announcement on Fox News' Fox & Friends.
Square's approach could upturn the estimated $100 billion gift-card market, says David Wolman, author of The End of Money, which chronicles the de-emphasis of cash amid an emergence of mobile-payment services.
"The gift card landscape was so dizzyingly crowded that I basically ignored it," Wolman says. "Not anymore. My first impression is that this fills a real need."
Doug Dalton, owner of Cask, a beverage vendor in San Francisco, says digital gift cards should spur sales for merchants and make it easier for consumers to buy holiday gifts for hard-to-please friends.
Square's gift-card gambit is its latest stab at separating itself from a crowded field of competitors, including PayPal, Google, Intuit and Groupon.
Handicapping the mobile-payments race, each major player has carved out a niche, according to analysts. Square is ideal for small merchants such as coffee shops and food trucks. PayPal Here is positioned for businesses that have an online and offline presence. Groupon's new service will appeal to businesses such as restaurants and spas with which it already works. Intuit's GoPayment is designed for small and midsize businesses.
In October, Square got a major jolt from a partnership with Starbucks. That deal is likely to parlay into more deals with major retailers -- many of whom follow the lead of Starbucks, an early adopter of technology.


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Chris Tanev's Next Contract
Thomas Drance
May 16 2013 12:08PM
Tanev must've forgot his cigarettes.
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With the salary cap declining for the first time ever the Vancouver Canucks are facing a pretty crunchy salary cap situation heading into this summer. A lot of Vancouver's flexibility here will be determined by a Roberto Luongo trade, and whether or not the Canucks can clear his deal off the books without retaining salary. For what it's worth, I think they probably can and worst case scenario they can place him on waivers where he'd probably be claimed.
Assuming Luongo's salary is cleared and Keith Ballard is bought out, and I thought that was a foregone conclusion even before he didn't dress for a single game this postseason, the Canucks will have roughly 10.5 million left over to sign eight players (including one top-9 forward)*. That's not a lot of spare change.
(*) These figures are per capgeek and assume that Eddie Lack and Frank Corrado are on Vancouver's roster next season.
One situation that will be particularly fascinating to watch is the team's negotiations with restricted free-agent, fancy-stats darling and third-pairing defenceman Chris Tanev. Tanev isn't the type of player one typically associates with an exorbitant contract, but he may well have more leverage this summer than your typical restricted free-agent. We'll get into it after the jump.
Jim Jamieson wrote about the prospect of a Chris Tanev offer-sheet, and chatted with Kurt Overhardt - who to be clear, doesn't represent Chris Tanev - in a piece for the Province (by way of non-paywalled faceoff.com):
With the NHL salary cap dropping by $5.9 million next season, a number of teams — the Canucks among them — will be scrambling to find ways to reduce their salary commitments under the new fiscal constraints.
So getting pending restricted free agent defenceman Chris Tanev, 23, locked up for a modest raise is unlikely.
It's thought by some in the hockey world that, with this dramatic lowering of the cap, some NHL clubs may be more encouraged to tender offer sheets to unsigned RFAs, with the thinking that cap-crunched clubs will be less able to match.
Denver-based player agent Kurt Overhardt, of KO Sports Inc., says it could be "a perfect storm" for offer sheets with the cap going down so much, but said many NHL clubs will suffer cap issues — and that will affect the number of clubs in position to make RFA offers. Contract offers — or offer sheets — can be tendered to RFAs by teams other than their own, beginning July 5.
Restricted free agents generally don't have a lot of leverage in negotiations, but the notion that a player such as Chris Tanev (or Chicago's Nick Leddy) may be able to find a suitor this summer where PK Subban couldn't a year ago strikes me as compelling. With the salary cap declining and the demand for NHL defenceman - especially young NHL defencemen who can move the puck - at an all time high, Chris Tanev, who will represent himself in negotiations with the Canucks with the help of his father, will likely have cards to play this summer.
So Mike Gillis and Laurence Gilman - who remember, is Vancouver's point man on contract negotiations - might find it difficult to grind Tanev down to something like a three-year, four and a half million dollar deal that I'm sure they'd prefer.
I have a couple of spare thoughts on this. The first is that Chris Tanev, though a dynamite possession player, is ultimately somewhat expendable what with Jason Garrison's successful move to the right-side, and Frank Corrado's emergence as a seviceable bottom-pairing defenceman. Lots of folks and commentators think that Tanev was Vancouver's "steadiest" defenceman this season, and he was definitely really good, but he also played far and away the softest minutes among all Canucks defenceman.
Fact of the matter is that Tanev's matchups were managed very, very carefully. Just look at the guys he spent the most ice-time matched up against this past season: Stoll, King, Stajan, Smyth, Horcoff, Letetsu. What do those players have in common? They uniformly play in their teams bottom-six forward group.
Allow me a digression. There is a lot of chatter these days in the Vancouver sports market about trading Alex Edler, whose inconsistent defensive coverage and habitual unforced errors have frustrated many observers. Realistically, however, Edler is Vancouver's most frequently played defenceman at even-strength and the backend player most counted on to carry the puck out of the defensive end. That you often notice Edler making errors on the ice, at least somewhat reflects his high usage rate in the Canucks transition game.
I'm not totally against the notion of trading Alex Edler this offseason (even though it would be a dick move to do so on the heels of him committing to the team long-term). But it's worth mentioning that if you're not getting a bonafide, young, NHL-ready third-line centre on an entry-level contract in exchange for the Swedish defenceman, it's just not a deal worth making.
Which allows us to circle back to Chris Tanev. On many teams in the National Hockey League Chris Tanev is a top-four defenceman, and it seems very possible that one or two of those teams might come knocking with a predatory offer sheet if the Canucks low-ball the slick restricted free-agent this summer.
That unappealing prospect combined with Tanev's carefully managed minutes this past season (which I might suggest make him a potentially over-valued asset on the trade market), suggest to me that the Canucks might be better off shopping Chris Tanev before he hits the restricted free-agent market in July.
To be clear, I'd much rather see Chris Tanev re-sign in Vancouver and continue to mature while completely owning secondary competition on the third pairing. But the Canucks might be wise to set an internal deadline for a Chris Tanev extension, and shop him in Newark at the 2013 NHL entry draft if the two sides aren't close by then.
Tanev's RFA rights would very probably net the Canucks better than a second round pick in a trade, and with the Canucks strapped right up against the salary cap this summer and the market for UFA defenceman almost complely bereft of talent, the Canucks will assume an awful lot of risk if they can't get a deal done with Tanev before July.
better than a 2nd round pick, are you high? Tanev would command a 1st round pick if traded?!
May 16 2013, 01:06PM
The fact that he played mostly against the bottom pairings of the other teams, would that be partly due to Tanev playing with less reliable partners (Ballard, Alberts) in the coaches eyes?
For nest season, wouldn't the following D-pairings make sense: Hamhuis -Bieksa Elder -Tanev Garrison - Corrado
Would you say Tanev would resign for 3 years @ 6 million, so $2m/year? And would he be good value? I would say he would be for that kind of money.
Better to trade Edler than Tanev. You clear a lot of Cap space and Tanev will not cost as much as Edler. Garrison can move back to his preferred side. The inclusion of Corrado gives us three RH Def and three LH Def. As much as I like Edler and it wouldn't be good to see it will return a better player in return.
Tanev is the type of player that should be amenable to a relatively team friendly contract extension.
1) He has zero pedigree 2) He doesn't put up a lot of points 3) He has reason to be loyal to Vancouver considering his background 4) Self-representation would imply he is not chasing every last dollar.
I think 2 years and $3 million or 3 years and $5.25 million are in the ballpark and it gets done prior to free agency opening up.
May 16 2013, 01:38PM
A 2nd round pick would be the equivalent of dropping the soap in a prison shower. I have no idea which way the Canucks are going to go with Tanev's next contract. Either a 1-2 year cheaper deal, or a 3-5 year contract with a higher cap hit. Either way, trading him has to be one of the worst options to consider.
Corrado and the Canucks AHL farm team may be something to pay attention to in the next month. If the Canucks farm team does go dormant for a year, Corrado would be better served in the NHL on the bottom pairing with sheltered minutes(Like Tanev the last couple years.) However if the Canucks do find a city, wouldn't Corrado be better served playing 20 minutes a game on the top pairing in the AHL? Lack of other options and cap restrictions may force the Canucks to keep Corrado with the big club though.
With the cap the way it is, I think the Canucks are forced to try and move Edler before considering moving Tanev.
"I'm not totally against the notion of trading Alex Edler this offseason (even though it would be a dick move to do so on the heels of him committing to the team long-term). But it's worth mentioning that if you're not getting a bonafide, young, NHL-ready third-line centre on an entry-level contract in exchange for the Swedish defenceman, it's just not a deal worth making."
Is that a subtle way to say "Trade Edler for Couterier"?
I was actually thinking about a potential Tanev trade just before this article went up - specifically, about the Canucks possibly bundling Tanev's RFA rights with their first-round pick to move up at the draft. Giving up Tanev to get someone like Sean Monahan would probably be great for Vancouver.
Where is all this Edler for Couterier stuff coming from?
Edler, even with the defensive mistakes, is worth far more than a young 3rd line centre with upside.
He's on a great contract and the most comparable trade off the top of my head would be Johnson for Stewart & Shattenkirk.
If Philly wants Edler, it should be for the Schenns (perhaps adding in a Tanev or Schroeder if necessary).
Defenseman like Edler do not grow on trees. He is the Canucks' lone ultravaluable chip assuming Schneider isn't dealt.
If a team wants him, they should pay a steep price. The Canucks certainly don't HAVE to move Edler.
trading your 24th + Tanev will not move you to a top 7 pick.
Johnson had really high draft pedigree and Greg Sherman is an idiot. no way could you trade Edler for both Schenns.
Lol, today I agree with you. Edler is worth more than that and a deal with Philly would have to be expanded. What do you think of Edler, Kesler and Burrows for Schenn, Schenn, Couturier and Simmonds. Or how about Edler straight across for Tyler Myers. Buffalo could be tempted to reunite Edler and Erhoff.
Why would you want to trade 5mil Edler for 5.5mil Myers? Maybe if Myers was still on his ELC, but take on salary in that straight up? No way, IMO!
Actually I think the Canucks pick will be like 19th or 20th. Not to split hairs....just saying:)
@Daniel W.
Myers is only 23 and has a better chance of becoming the next Chara. Adding 500k in salary is a wash. Myers grew up in BC I believe.
Myers has struggled since his rookie season and he's not a risk I'd like to see the team take on.
Couterier is only 20, on an ELC, is a third-line centreman with lots of upside. Edler is a great defenseman, but he's not Weber or Chara.
No, we're picking 24th:
@Thomas Drance
you are seriously crazy. nobody trades 1st rounders for low event 3rd pairing D men. especially considering this years draft
no you're wrong.
I thought there was more to it in the draft order than just inverting the overall standings. Don't the teams in the conference finals get the last four picks?
@Mantastic I'm pretty sure you could deal Tanev straight up for a late first rounder if a team picking late needed a 23 year old cost controlled d-man yeah.
This isn't baseball. Tanev is not cost controlled during his RFA years.
I also suspect he is valued more by Canuck fans and the analytical community than by NHL GMs.
Whereas Edler is undervalued by Canuck fans simply because of the defensive mistakes.
Johnson had really high draft pedigree and Greg Sherman is an idiot. no way could you trade Edler for both Schenns.
Then Philly doesn't get Edler.
I'm quite sure Paul Holmgren feels he needs a frontline defenseman more than Mike Gillis feels he needs to move Edler.
Also, I get that Johnson was a high draft pick, but Hodgson and Schneider were both 1st rounders and top prospects before becoming NHLers.
I just can't believe that Johnson & a 1st rounder was more useful to Columbus than two actual NHL players that would have filled glaring holes on their roster.
@Mantastic I'm pretty sure you could deal Tanev straight up for a late first rounder if a team picking late needed a 23 year old cost controlled d-man yeah.
With the prospects we have, don't you have to make that trade if you can, in a deep draft? (Tanev for 1st)
With the cap coming down, why assume the Canucks use a 23 man roster? Assuming we'll be right up against it, it could help to lose a player or two.
Edler for a 3rd line center on an ELC? Seriously? An under 30 defenceman who averages 0.5pt a game would easily be Top 2 on almost all the teams. I'd be asking for the moon...
"I'm not totally against the notion of trading Alex Edler this offseason (even though it would be a dick move to do so on the heels of him committing to the team long-term). But it's worth mentioning that if you're not getting a bonafide, young, NHL-ready third-line centre on an entry-level contract in exchange for the Swedish defenceman, it's just not a deal worth making."
See I don't agree here. As nice as the capspace would be, I think if you can get an established scoring winger (which I think Edler can get) then you pull the trigger. A Bobby Ryan or Loui Eriksson would help this team enormously.
May 16 2013, 08:15PM
Ya, I have zero desire to trade Tanev, esp if he only returns a 2nd rounder. Right handed d-men are hard to find. After Corrado, Canucks only have Price on the right hand side on the farm. That's basically nothing. Given the injury issues this team always faces on the back end, trading him would be disastrous IMO.
Lots of team are going to have cap issues next yr. Not a big deal. There should be buyouts from other teams, hopefully those guys will sign cheaper (a la Gomez/Redden).
But they're gonna have to get a guy on an ELC in a Luongo trade. They can't afford to take a top 6 guy making $4+M.
I'm still pushing for the Canucks to 'buy' back a good return in Luongo trade (or other trade). Take back a bad contract, buy it out - and take some of their good prospects on ELC in return. How much would Islanders pay to rid themselves of Pipietro? How much would Fla give to get rid of Upshall? I allows Canucks to hold on to the Edlers and buy themselves a good package. It only comes around every 7 yrs or so, take advantage of it.
Could the Canucks do a 1 year deal with the expectation that cap will rise next year when they'll have more space to afford a raise?
I doubt Tanev or Edler get traded. Which may not be the best choice, however. It's not easy to properly judge what Tanev's development curve will look like. No doubt he has considerable potential, but, as a late-sprouter, he certainly needs a couple more years before we can really see what he can bring. The question is - wouldn't it be wiser to wait a year or two, and hope for continued progress, as well as increased asset-value, before considering a trade?
I am definitely a fence-sitter when it comes to looking at trading Edler. AS someone mentioned, a new coach (especially defense coach) could really make a difference. I don't think it's fair to judge the guy on this half season. He was shunted back and forth between partners and sides. That messed him up. And despite the messes, he still managed to produce significant points!
You're all wrong but this comment contains some accurate statements. Yes, conference finalists do impact draft standings. Thanks to LA and San Jose playing one another, we are guaranteed to move up one spot to 23rd and if the other playoff series have upsets our draft position could improve further.
@Garth Algar
Thanks for the clarity. 23, isn't that where we got Kesler in another deep draft. I'm not sure how we do it but getting another first round pick, or even a high second rounder, in this years draft would be great for the future. I'm not sure I'd want to trade Tanev to get it though.
May 17 2013, 10:00AM
I feel that trading Tanev would be a ridiculous, knee jerk decision. We had been short of right side d for ages (especially since salo was always hurt). Trading Tanev would be silly. We don't even know what we have in him yet. Especially for something as silly as a low first. Now, if Tampa offered us the 3rd overall to take Drouin for Tanev and our 1st, you do it. But Tampa would never do that. All of this to say it should take ridiculous overpayment to move Tanev.
1. Uh, I for one would not mind keeping both Edler and Tanev, because you know they are pretty good hockey players at less than market terms. Vancouver's strategy is to convince core players to take less and spend $$ on free agents to push in the playoffs. Don't think that will change.
2. Maybe get a better defense coach than bowness?
3. Also, cap will go up again and this money crunch issue will be solvable without such urgency to shed so many good players just bc they're relatively more expensive than others.
4. Tanev can fetch a late 1st rounder if it meets a team's need. at least that's how this organization will view/approach Tanev's situation. If they're not getting a late 1st rounder worthy value in return, Tanev isn't going anywhere.
5. Injuries. canucks fans should know well by now, we can never have too many defensemen.
whats the compensation on Tanev, if a team gives him an offer sheet we dont match?


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If you are just waking from a 24 hour doctor-induced coma, you will be surprised to learn that Research in Motion Founder Jim Balsillie has continued in his quest to bring an NHL team to Canada – this time making an offer for the Phoenix Coyotes.
Jim Balsillie confirmed Tuesday that he has offered to pay $212.5 million US to purchase the Phoenix Coyotes on the condition that the bankrupt team relocate to southern Ontario. Balsillie, 48, made the offer to Coyotes majority owner Jerry Moyes, consenting to buy it if he can move it, presumably to Hamilton or the Kitchener-Waterloo region, where he runs Research In Motion Ltd., maker of the popular BlackBerry mobile device. Balsillie also agreed to provide $17 million US in bridge financing to keep the Coyotes operating in advance of the proposed sale.
Before we start laying our thoughts down on this matter, did anyone watch the Balsillie press conference? Why exactly is he wearing a tuxedo? Is that how you roll when you crack the top 700 richest people in the world? Does someone show up at your door and inform you that "You have done well for yourself, sir. Here is your gold set of testicles and from now on we are going to insist you wear a tuxedo at all times. You know, to keep up appearances."
And could he have looked more nervous?
"Er, um well I had a GIC come due last month and I got a refund on my taxes, so yeah I made a $212.5 million dollar offer for the Phoenix Coyotes. Frankly I am surprised that's a news story and all of you reporters showed up at this event to interview me. Luckily I wear a tuxedo at all times."
When we have enough loot kicking around to write a $212.5 million offer on something the last emotion we will display will be nerves. We would have our press conference buck naked without the use of a podium, holding a foam Coyotes #1 finger in one hand and a half empty bottle of Jack Daniels in the other. Most of our "press conference" would consist of telling stories about how we could have anyone in the room murdered by Hells Angels for $5,000. Rich guy nerves or not, two things remain crystal clear: 1) Jim Balsillie is rich as all hell, and 2) He seems to want to watch an NHL game in Hamilton-Kitchener-Waterloo-Leaf Country.
Just how rich is this Jim Balsillie anyways?
If you haven't heard of Jim Balsillie before you have most likely heard of his little company Research in Motion. In a business world where Canadian Tech companies aren't exactly renowned for their economic might, RIM is a homegrown tech darling able to earn actual "revenues" and over the past 15 years has become a Global economic juggernaut all the while headquartering in the Kitchener-Waterloo region. RIM co-chief executive officers James Balsillie and Mike Lazaridis are by accounts good ol' Canadian boys who just so happen to run a company with a market capitalization of over $50.59 billion as of 9:37 AM this morning.
Before all of the recent financial hullabaloo Balsillie had turned a world wide addiction to BrickBreaker into the #618th largest personal fortune on Earth with a 2007 net worth of slightly north of $1.8 billion dollars. While certainly ballin', we must take this opportunity to note that Balsillie is no Daryl Katz who posted up on the same Forbes list of richest people on Earth at #538 with a net worth of $1.9 billion. But we will pretend for a moment that $1.8 billion is a sufficient checking account to go shopping for an NHL team.
We suppose the next question is:
Why is the NHL spurning his efforts?
In 2006, Balsillie took a run at buying the Pittsburgh Penguins for $170 million but eventually terminated his offer on the basis "it wasn't going to be accepted." The Penguins were able to hold the buy-us-an-arena-or-we-are-so-outta-here gun to the heads of local government and it seems they are due to remain in Pittsburgh for the foreseeable future. After a prolonged courting process, Pittsburgh ended up sending the nice rich Canadian man packing in favor of the nice rich Canadian man they already had in the owner's suite.
Not easily discouraged, in 2007 Balsillie offered Craig Leipold $238 million for the Nashville Predators in a move that seemed so certain to succeed that the Globe and Mail ran a story titled "Predators sold to Balsillie" That bid also fell short when Leipold went the other route, selling to William (Boots) DelBiaggio who followed the path blazed by many an NHL owner now and is now under investigation by the Feds for financial er, indiscretions. Incredibly these two experiences didn't sour Balsillie and send him shopping for an Iranian Jai Alai squad and he remains interested in an NHL team.
We will ask our own question again:
Why is the NHL spurning his efforts?
It has been rumored that one of the issues Bettman has with Balsillie is that he isn't respecting the G code of NHL ownership which apparently means "Ask Gary if you can do something. If he says no, you don't do it." Balsillie has the temerity to go around NHL head office in NYC and tries to strike deals with team owners directly. This refusal to play political softball with NHL big wigs has been one of the reasons touted for his inability to land a team to date. Side note: What does that idiot owner in Tampa Bay who made all the Saw movies have that Balsillie does not?
It has also been widely theorized that there are some in the NHL head offices that believe moving what was once the Winnipeg Jets back to Canada would amount to an admission that the experiment of bringing the NHL to the American Sun Belt is over. Leaving aside the fact that "experiment of bringing the NHL to the American Sun Belt is actually over" one must also recall that the American Sun Belt is basically bankrupt at the moment and that the troubles faced by the Coyotes have little to do with the NHL refusing to run an interesting marketing campaign in the past decade, the failure to promote fighting in the game to a blood-thirsty American audience or secure a national American TV deal. Yep, the NHL could easily use the Global Recession to allow the Jets to come home to Canada with little worry that the thousands of American Billionaires looking to locate another team in the US would scuttle their plans.
That reminds us - speaking of NHL owners - how about them
Crazy inflated team values
Lest we forget, Nation, that the Anaheim Mighty Ducks sold for a piddling $75 million in 2005. Then the Oilers were sold at a mind shattering $200 million and suddenly the floor value of a franchise roughly tripled overnight. If and when Balsillie ultimately picks off one of the weaker members of the NHL herd and drags it up to Hamilton, he will have grossly overpaid for the purchase thus reinforcing the inflated value of an NHL franchise. Pretend you are selling chocolate bars for a buck. If someone walked into your store and offered you $5 for this very same bar you would most likely throw that money in the till as fast as you could laughing heartily at the sucker who overpaid $4 for a $1 chocolate bar. But if the next person is willing to pay $5, and the next and the next - sooner or later you are in the business of selling $5 chocolate bars.
Same goes for the NHL - a league without a major TV deal operating in a business climate where most of the teams are losing money hand over fist. When Katz bought the Oilers for $200 million the EIG and some other owners in the league must have thought they had misread the purchase price. This was a team that was valued between $65-$90 million by most publications. NHL owners would probably have split into two camps - those who believed that this was a one time price spike and others who truly believed that their team - which has lost tens of millions of dollars per year for a great many years - suddenly also tripled in value. If this Balsillie transaction goes through, they might be closer to realizing their hilarious dream than they can dream in this economic climate.
For this reason alone Bettman should allow Balsillie to buy the Coyotes. It will further inflate franchise values in a market where teams should be doing nothing more than shedding market value. Axing this deal is not only a disservice to Jerry Moyes, but to the other 28 NHL owners (Katz excluded) who must be watching this transaction with giddy anticipation of their own franchise value going through the roof.
Does Gretzky come with the deal?
IF the Coyotes are sold and IF Balsillie moves them to Hamilton – what of the Head Coach? Will he take his share of the sale and sail quietly into the sunset? Will he seek to continue with the team as Head Coach or in some other capacity? If Gretzky is willing to relocate north of the border for hockey related business stuff, we know of another Canadian Billionaire who recently bought an NHL franchise who is also looking for a new Head Coach who may want to go have a chat with #99. If you want to roll with the Boys on the Bus, why not roll with THE boy on the bus?
Canadian Billionaires bossing around Bettman and making moves without his consent. Kinda makes you feel nice doesn't it?
May 06 2009, 10:32AM
Who saw this coming?!?
First time commenter long time reader:
The title of this article Wayne? TOO FUNNY. You are the king!
I hope Mr Blackberry gets a hockey team. It is obvious this guy is passionate about the game and wanting a team in Canada. Mr Bettman has his own agenda though. I and many others are dumbfounded as to why Bettman's agenda is to pursue expansion in the States. Why so many southern and or mid US teams are struggling and on verge of bankruptcy that Bettman refused to even consider moving one or two teams back to Canada, the answer is so obvious.
THE ANSWER: Bettman gains revenue through selling TV rights to US television. Under Bettman, the NHL has seen rapid growth of league revenues, from $400 million when he was hired to over $2.2 billion in 2006–07. Bettman oversaw the expansion the NHL's footprint across the United States, with six new teams added during his tenure, bringing the NHL to 30.
155 Million-1994-95 with FOX 600 Million-1998 (5 yr deal) with ABC and ESPN 207.5 Million- 2005 with VERSUS (formly Comcast)
Bettman have enough money in his war chest to assist failing US teams while trying to maintain the status quo of US teams. The more US teams, the more chances of gaining bigger TV deals/rights for the future. In Canada, there will be very few cash for TV rights, so why not go after the big boys in the US of A.
May 06 2009, 10:51AM
The NHL will not put the team in southern Ontario. A large Sabres following is located there. I personally would like to see the Saska-qwatches. We all know that'll never happen.
@ Brian O'Neill:
Well Mr. Negative the 618th richest man on earth seems to disagree with your point.
Balsille is the new Batman, the c*cky playboy that kicked Heath Ledger's @ss. Katz is the Tim Burton Batman played by Keaton, who was socially awkward but secretly wanted to kick Heath Ledger's @ss. True Story.
That's exactly what it boils down to, Bettman fears that a powerful group of Canadian owners will strong-arm him out of the league.
I, for one, pray to Wanye that this happens.
May 06 2009, 11:18AM
@ Archaeologuy: You should be careful which movie you reference, or people may take you for Deep Oil.
@ Wanye: That's a nominee for blog post title of the year in my books.
Just a quibble really - Balsillie was wearing a tux because he threw a quick presser following a banquet given in his honour to hand out some kind of business achievement award. Thus, he is the emperor penguin in a room full of Chinstrap penguins. *cough, cough*
I am glad someone in the Oilogosphere finally brought this up. I have been scanning sites for some comment since I heard yesterday afternoon.
My thought, Phoenix for next season (likely) and then when the dust settles from the stampede of penguin lawyers, the Waterloo Berries join the Western Conference in 10-11 (Bettmann has got to punish Jimmy somehow right?).
Pure comedy. Great article - I laughed so hard at the 'rim job' title my upper plate almost fell out.
May 06 2009, 11:39AM
Wanye: I like your headline far better than the one on my Renney item. Can we have our crack technical squad tweak my story using your headline and replace "Coyotes" with "Oilers?"
@ Wanye Gretz:
I would like to personally give you an over Internet high five for this piece title. Hilarious.
Fun fact: When Jim Balsillie travels, he has 'Balla Baby' by Chingy blasting from 12' foot speakers.
Again... you heard it from ol' baggedmilk first. New team name will be the Hamilton Storm.
Archaeologuy wrote:
Balsille is the new Batman, the c*cky playboy that kicked Heath Ledger's @ss. Katz is the Tim Burton Batman played by Keaton, who was socially awkward but secretly wanted to kick Heath Ledger's @ss. True Story.
True nerd gold!
If Bettman cock blocks Balsillie ONE more time it's time for the board of governors to let Bettman go. I know moving the Coyote franchise out of Phoenix will be hard on it's 20 or so fans but it's time to embrace reality... Shouldn't the common goal be to RAISE league revenue by having numerous successful well placed franchises?
Katz was determined to own the Oilers, bumping up his offers until it was too good to refuse.
Basille's offer looks pretty sweet and his timing is excellent. I am sure that the NHL would be happy not to have to subsidise Phoenix and more.
Will the Oiler's, and potentialy Phoenix sales have much impact on franchise value around the league? I doubt it.
Supply of teams in poor financial condition greatly outnumber well heeled individuals or corporations willing to step up and own dogs of teams.
Uh oh. According to Forbes 2009 list, when billionaires lost all their money just like the rest of us (Warren Buffet lost $25 billion!) Balsille is #430 and Katz is - gulp - #468.
But Katz owns an NHL team, so nyah to you, Balsille.
Sorry Wanye - but Jim B is much richer than the founder of Rexall - for two reasons, he has more cake and it is in shares of a public company, he can sell his shares this afternoon, while overdraft Katz has to find a buyer and then pay off McKesson for their share - your stats conflict with FORBES as Basillie is rated higher than wannabe DK.
May 06 2009, 12:20PM
Hello HAMILTON BLACKBERRIES....
@ baggedmilk:
I for one, will watch to see if your prognostication skills hold up on this prediction.
Quinn wrote:
@ baggedmilk: I for one, will watch to see if your prognostication skills hold up on this prediction.
I'm glad I will have a witness when it happens.
May 06 2009, 12:55PM
Victoria wrote:
True nerd gold!
I am fluent in both Nerdish and Geek, also in Ancient Geek, but that is mainly a written language (as the Ancient Geeks lacked the social skills to have face to face conversations)
Southwestern Ontario is a gay place for a team when Winnipeg, QC, and even... Halifax! are sans teams. Let Medvedev have his Quebec Coyotes.. sure beats Southwestern Wangsamplers... Halifax and Winnipeg need teams within the next 20 years. If we have like 8 teams in Ontario by then its going to be hard to convince the league that new Canadian franchises are needed.
I am sure the Coyotes will stay in Phoenix, the NHL will not relocate to Canada until Gary "the Count" Bettman is no longer in charge. Instead he will put a team in Las Vegas or some other dumbass place like that and 5 years down the road the NHL will be in this whole problem all over again.
My solution: Go back to 24 teams, six teams per division and 12 teams per conference. Remove Phoenix, Florida, Nashville, Tampa Bay, Atlanta, and Carolina. Move Detroit into the Eastern Conference and go from there. Have a dispersal draft and distribute the players to the teams. This will make for higher quality hockey, keep the game in good markets, allow the owners to actually make a yearly profit, and the playoff race down the strecth would be even closer than they already are.
I know there is no way this would ever happen but I can dream.
Bob Cob wrote:
six teams per division
I meant 4 teams per division
Why Pitt didn't happen... Balsille said he'd be willing to keep the team in Pit, Bettman/Lemieux wanted it in writing, Balsille walked away.
Why Nashville didn't happen... Out of town wannabe owner offers lots of cash, NHL gives local ownership a chance to buy franchise...Hmm does this sound familiar - like EDM in the 90s with EIG.
Now Phoenix...an owner who mismanaged his finances (hmm did Pocklington do that too?) and supposedly Reinsdorf wants to give it a go in Phoenix. Shouldn't that happen? The good people of Glendale built a rink for them a couple years ago with a 30+ year lease...Wouldn't you be choked if EDM built the Oilers a new rink and they left town because the owner pissed away all his cash on shady business deals?
Sure there should be a new team in Southern Ontario, but stealing a franchise is not how it should be done. They are a young team that will be successful in a year or two, and lets see how Phoenix does then.
Some of the southern teams are in weak shape, but for the most part they have also been losing teams. Get in smart ownership and management and I'm sure it can work. Is Dallas really a better hockey market than Atlanta, Miami or Phoenix? Stable management and winning product made them successful...
May 06 2009, 02:03PM
@ Blair: Dallas is a huge market, Phoenix...not so much. Until this year Dallas has had a great attendance record, Phoenix...not so much. So winning breeds fans and revenue, but the Yotes are in such financial peril that they cant afford a winning club.
No one will be stealing a Franchise from Phoenix. After losing 20+ million every year for 10 years then filing for bankruptcy Moyes will be begging for a buyer.
@ Blair:
Then let Ballsili start a new franchise in Hamilton, and let Bettman place another one somewhere stupid like Las Vegas... Have a 32 team league with two conferences of 16 teams. Every team plays a home and home series against non-conference rivals (16 non-conference rivals x 2 games= 32 games). Every team plays two home and two away games against conference opponents. (15 other teams in your conference x 4 games= 60)
That makes 92 games. (46 home dates) Ditch the pre-season... make EVERY game count from day one: but give franchises 10 games to wean their lineup down to a 23 man roster. Last season I paid for 44 or 45 home dates... but only 41 meant anything. Prospects who really deserve a look will still get a chance: but in a game that matters. If the league still wants to have divisions, and division titles within this framework to seed teams and create interest; I don't care. I just want to see a variety of opponents over the course of the season. Oh, and I hate paying top dollar to see pre-season games.
I know I'm dreaming... but I like the symmetry of my proposal.
May 06 2009, 02:55PM
@ Chris: I have to disagree completely with the idea of expanding the league even further. The Oilers have a hard enough time finding forwards who can score 20 goals without 2 more teams vying for them or drafting them ahead of the Oil.
Would it be too much to dream that Balsillie might get a team, put it int he KW area, and call it the Waterloo Mercurys? Instant history if he did.
alphah wrote:
sure beats Southwestern Wangsamplers…
That made me snort coffee through my nose!! I love that name.
May 06 2009, 03:16PM
There are two reasons that I believe Mr. Balsillie is getting turned down by Bettman. One is public relations-based, one is legal.
Public relations-wise, it would be disastrous, in Bettman's mind, for any of the Southern expansion or relocation teams to fail or to be moved. If that happens, it would be saying that he was wrong and that his vision failed. Now, this may or may not be the case (make your own comment on the financial health of the teams in places such as Raleigh, Miami, or Dallas, etc.), but when you've been running an organization for close to decades, it's tough to see your major initiative fail. And I believe that Mr. Bettman does not like to concede or admit defeat, even a little bit. So he would likely want to keep Phoenix in town, even to his detriment. But this is speculation.
The second reason is legal. I don't know for sure, but I have little doubt that each NHL team has an exclusive right to operate a team in a geographic area. In order to have a team move into that area, it would likely require at a minimum 2/3, and likely unanimous, approval of the Board of Governors. Toronto will not accept it since they already lost fans to Ottawa (well, a handful anyways), except for a truckload of money. I can't see Buffalo accepting it at all, either. Now, you might say, "well, people from Hamilton don't go to Buffalo to watch hockey, and people from Buffalo aren't going to watch hockey in Hamilton, thanks to the border." You're probably right. But it would likely affect TV revenue, etc.
Finally, when it comes to franchises, no one knows what will and what will not work in a particular market. For example, in the NBA, when they expanded to Vancouver and Toronto, Toronto took off while Vancouver ended up moving. Now, there were some on-the-court issues with Vancouver (Steve Francis instead of Lamar Odom), but it should have been a good market, and wasn't. You just can't predict these things. Maybe the NHL also thinks that Hamilton wouldn't be a good market. If Balsillie was willing to buy a team and move it to Kansas City, Oklahoma, or even Seattle, I could see the NHL more willing to play ball.
Finally, he could always do what they did in Seattle, which is buy the team, and then move it on his own (or in Indianapolis, buy the team and physically move it in the dead of night, or Oakland where Davis moved the Raiders back-and-forth just for giggles). However, his lack of diplomacy is preventing him from getting even that far.
Sorry, this was a bit longer than it was meant to be (as I believe Abe Lincoln said, I meant to write you a short letter, but I didn't have the time, so I wrote a long one instead).
alphah wrote:
Southwestern Ontario is a gay place for a team when Winnipeg, QC, and even… Halifax! are sans teams
Even the CFL won't let Halifax have a team, and they give Ottawa a franchise every 5 years!
I vote for Winnipeg with Bobby Hull supplanting Gretz behind the bench. Phil Housley and Bob Essensa as his assistants.
And can we move the 'Canes back to Hartford?
I Heart Nostalgia!
Archaeologuy wrote:
The Oilers have a hard enough time finding forwards who can score 20 goals without 2 more teams vying for them or drafting them ahead of the Oil.
And yet Detroit keeps finding high end talent late in the Draft...Hmmmm. And YOU remain silent when I argue with Willis about the Oiler draft record.
If winnipeg hadn't built a way too small new arena(15000 seats WTF) and had an ass load of corporate sponsors on board that would be the way to go.
Southern Ontario can support another team though(I like it as a big FCK YOU to the leafs) and would undoubtably be profitable (Didn't he get like 13000 season tickets sold in a week the last time he played this game?)
It's western Canada that doesn't have the base to support another team yet, although I think a seattle area team might get some vancouverites out.
So yeah lets take 3-4 of the southern US teams and relocate them.
Nashville is in some trouble too and I can't see things going well in florida or atlanta for much longer if they keep up the suckage; these people will turn to NFL, Nascar, college sports, NBA, or the world series of lawn bowling at the first drop of a hat.
@Chris Metro Dallas ~ 6 Million Metro Phoenix ~ 4.5 Million
Both should be able to support a professional team that is run effectively.
My point is that Dallas had great fans because they had great management/ownership who put a good product on the ice. Phoenix on the other hand has been terrible and it appears that rests with ownership/management (Moyes looks like he got caught up using debt to buy more than he could afford and when he couldn't get more debt, it caught up with him). If you get quality ownership in place **maybe** Phoenix works as a hockey market (with good marketing - they have a team that should be good). If in 3-5 years they are still struggling to establish a fan base, then I'd cut loose.
---- Also, who says Balsille is the best option for another team in Southern Ontario? Just because he's the most outgoing person seeking a franchise doesn't mean he is automatically the best option (he might be, but lets see who else is out there too).
May 06 2009, 04:04PM
Chris wrote:
Archaeologuy wrote: The Oilers have a hard enough time finding forwards who can score 20 goals without 2 more teams vying for them or drafting them ahead of the Oil. And yet Detroit keeps finding high end talent late in the Draft…Hmmmm. And YOU remain silent when I argue with Willis about the Oiler draft record.
Whoa, settle, I dont remember said argument about drafting. But my stance is that it was @ss-tacular in the 90's and has gotten significantly better as of late. And Look at Detroit's draft Gems, 4th rounders? If Detroit knew these guys were so good why didnt they draft them in the 1st round? Honestly, Omark is also looking like he might be a 4th round gem, it happens.
I love how the NHL would rather try & stick bubble gum in all of the holes of the leaky SSCoyotes instead of just getting the cash.
28 other owners would be insane not to let JB throw a stack of money at this & put some new lipstick on this pig.
@ Archaeologuy: Sometime, in the random future, I would like to stop paying for preseason games, and see every team in the league at least once. It's the dream of EVERY season ticket holder...
Okay. So no expansion. Stay with thirty teams. Two divisons of 15. A home and home with each eastern opponents results in 30 games played. Then the Oilers play each western rival twice at home and twice on the road. Another 56 games played. That is 86 games or 43 home dates. Do you think the NHLPA would go for an extra four regular season games if there wasn't such a ridiculously long pre-season?
May 06 2009, 04:36PM
Do we need a new acronym, Smokin' Ray? BBTJ?
@ Smokin' Ray - NNC: What is NNC?
May 06 2009, 05:54PM
@ Wanye Gretz: I will consider this piece the fourth part of that little four part financial piece you were working on all those moons ago. You sir are now off the hook.
Rusty Shackleford wrote:
@ Archaeologuy: You should be careful which movie you reference, or people may take you for Deep Oil.
Speaking of said individual.... where for art thou lately? hmm.
May 06 2009, 06:03PM
Good stuff, Wanye. Except for the part about bringing #99 in as the new head coach in Oilerville. Don't get me wrong; I love the man to death and would shine his shoes in the street if ever he asked. It's just that someone smarter than me pointed out in a previous thread that if things don't go well for #99 behind the bench, the Oilers are still kind of stuck with him. After all, how do you fire the man whose statue is outside the building? Too much at stake on both sides; I'd have to say the risk far outweighs the reward.
May 06 2009, 06:57PM
It's hard nosed investigative reporting like this that won OilerNation a Webby award.
Oh yeah, right, The New York Times and Washington Post got them. Sorry.
Archaeologuy wrote:
I am fluent in both Nerdish and Geek, also in Ancient Geek, but that is mainly a written language (as the Ancient Geeks lacked the social skills to have face to face conversations)
Well played sir!
May 06 2009, 08:35PM
They should do away with Bettman if this deal does not go through and let the Coyotes and about five other teams in the South fold their doors.Transfer three other weak teams to Canada and then we will have a healthy league,The US experiment is a joke, considering we dont even rank in the top 10 in the US for sports.
Oh, don't worry about 2 more teams possibly picking ahead of the Oilers, they will still draft very poorly given their track record over the past 15 years!
May 06 2009, 11:00PM
Chris wrote:
Do you think the NHLPA would go for an extra four regular season games if there wasn't such a ridiculously long pre-season?
I think they would be all for it. More hockey revenue translates directly into player salary. And that's what the NHLPA is all about.
May 06 2009, 11:39PM
Travis Dakin wrote:
@ Wanye Gretz: I will consider this piece the fourth part of that little four part financial piece you were working on all those moons ago. You sir are now off the hook.
Like an elephant, TD never forgets....ever.


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As Brian Cohen, the hapless hero of Monty Python's Life of Brian, finds out, it can be tricky stepping into the shoes of someone worshipped by all. And the fear of not passing muster was on the minds of all six actors cast as Pythons for a BBC comedy drama about the release of the film in 1979.
Holy Flying Circus tells the story of the making of Life of Brian, and the righteous fury that surrounded the release of its satirical take on the gospels. It's the first attempt to dramatise the activities of the sextet who transformed British comedy on the big and small screens.
Coming together to play Michael Palin, John Cleese, Terry Jones, Eric Idle, Terry Gilliam and the late Graham Chapman, the performers admitted to feeling odd about playing men who have the status, if not of modern-day messiahs, then at least of comedy gods for their fans around the world.
During the filming of BBC4's Holy Flying Circus, written by Tony Roche, co-writer of In the Loop and The Thick of It, its stars were initially wary of impersonating such famous comics. "We wanted to be affectionate about the Pythons and we all had a sense they were our comedy heroes," said director Owen Harris. "You could feel the anxiety in the room when the actors got together in character for the first time. We had a room full of Pythons."
Comedian and writer Steve Punt, who plays Idle, found the humour of Roche's screenplay guided the performances. "When you are playing someone who is not only an icon of comedy but who is still alive, it does feel pretty strange. But the secret is the script. It is funny and not at all a forensic depiction of the people. It captures the spirit of the Pythons."
While a docu-drama, Holy Flying Circus aims to be a comedy in its own right. "It has a very different tone from other films in that strand," said Harris. "We are calling it a fantastical reimagining." Inspired by Python, the director says the film tells its story in an unorthodox way. "It is non-linear for a start, and has animation in it like Terry Gilliam's work. We took his drawings as a starting point and then applied our own craft. In the end some of the sequences are rather like the American cartoon Family Guy, although not visually."
The new drama centres on a notorious television confrontation that took place in 1979 between two of the Pythons, Cleese and Palin, and the Roman Catholic writer and broadcaster Malcolm Muggeridge, who believed that Life of Brian was a scurrilous attack on Christianity.
"You might say Holy Flying Circus is a comedy equivalent of the film Frost/Nixon, marking a historic TV moment, but that was much more factual and we are playful, although the debate itself is verbatim," explains Harris. "I do wonder whether viewers will realise that, because some of it is quite extraordinary."
Although Life of Brian was a box-office success, it was met with international protest from religious groups. Its plot centred on the unfortunate chain of events that follow the mistaken identification of a young Judean man as a new religious leader. Reluctant to the last, Cohen, played by Chapman, is tragically unable to clarify the misunderstanding.
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When: Tonight, 8:30pm
What: The Life of Brian's second coming
Fantasy pick: Once Upon a Time
In the action-packed finale of the first season of this fantasy series, bold bail bondswoman Emma (who's actually the daughter of Snow White and Prince Charming) finally started to believe her son and realise that the residents of Storybrook were displaced fairy tale characters.
She managed to break the evil Queen Regina's curse with a kiss, and so as season two kicks off, reality and myth start to merge more as the characters begin to regain their fairy tale identities and powers.
Despite the curse being broken, they're disappointed to find that they've not been transported back to the fairy tale world, and that Regina still holds power.
Fans can look forward to the appearance of many more characters in season two.
When: Thursday, 8.30pm
Where: TV2
What: The curse has been broken
Crime pick: Police Ten 7
New Zealand's original, behind-the-scenes reality cop show returns for its 20th season (that's 12 years on air), and to celebrate the team get a bit lovey-dovey. Yes, it's the Valentine's Day special which takes a look at the craziest canoodling couples the police have had to deal with over the years.
The show, hosted by Detective Inspector Graham Bell, wouldn't be the ratings winner that it is without featuring more of the dangerous and crazy antics of the crims. Like the suspended driver who takes exception to the police pulling him over and an enterprising thief who uses a trampoline to escape custody.
As always, Bell is keen to "clean up the streets of New Zealand" with the help of you, the home viewers, by gleaning any information you might have on the cases the series covers.
When: Thursday, 7.30pm
Where: TV2
What: Back on the beat
Comedy pick: Anger Management
After the first 10 episodes of Charlie Sheen's latest sitcom screened in the United States, the order went out for 90 more - here's season two.
This series, Sheen (as a baseball star turned anger therapist) continues to get mixed up in the lives of his patients and infuriates his ex-wife and daughter. Plus he's got his difficult father (played by Martin Sheen) pushing his buttons, too. Of course, the woman who manages to prick Charlie's conscience the most is fellow therapist, best friend and sometimes bedfellow, Kate (Selma Blair). In this season-opener, the pair are forced to evaluate their friendship when Charlie takes Kate to his sister's baby shower (Kate doesn't like babies - "they have no concept of my importance"), to find they're beating married couples at a game called "newlyweds".
When: Sunday, 8pm
Where: TV2
What: The blurry line between patient and therapist
Current Affairs pick: 20/20
TV2's tabloidesque tilt at current affairs returns tonight with its all-female local reporting team of Sonya Wilson, Emma Keeling, Erin Conroy and Hannah Ockelford.
The first instalment has the show hitting the hens' night circuit, and the male strippers who make a living by taking their clothes off in front of groups of screaming women.
Meanwhile, from the United States Nick Watts reports on what it's like to be a less-than-slim assistant to a celebrity - including Kathy Griffin's PA Tiffany Rinehart and John Taylor, the Jonas Brothers' 160kg guitarist.
And on the flip side there's a look at global weight-loss scams - claims backed by celebrities and well-known organisations which are happy to take your money but do little to help people slim down.
When: Thursday, 9.30pm
Where: TV2
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