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I've been tracking the latest news and opinions on prostate-specific antigen (PSA) testing used to screen for prostate cancer. I'm sure many of you are curious about the new recommendations that have been announced.
In June 2012, the U.S. Preventive Services Task Force recommended against routine PSA testing to screen for prostate cancer. The recommendation doesn't apply to men diagnosed with prostate cancer and under observation for progression or recurrence.
This topic remains controversial, but is based on the fact that PSA testing hasn't been proven to decrease deaths from prostate cancer. The main concerns noted are false-positives, overdiagnosis and overtreatment.
The PSA test isn't perfect, and can be elevated for other medical reasons. Researchers have also found that many low-risk (less aggressive, slow growing) prostate cancers can be simply observed for a period without needing aggressive treatment from the start.
All of this means that it's important to take the time to decide if you want to be screened or not depending on your personal history and choice. The scientific community agrees that a new way to screen and test for prostate cancer is needed. Meantime, talk with your doctor about what's best for you.
Mayo Clinic urologists recommend a personalized approach as men consider the benefits and risks of PSA screening. Prostate cancer is a leading cause of cancer in men. Therefore, it's still important to consider screening for those at high risk of developing cancer.
Mayo Clinic specialists recommend a discussion about PSA screening starting at age 40:
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I'm a white male born on 2/17/1934 in good health and very active and eat only what is said to be good for us, meaning that I buy and prepare my own meals only eat the bad stuff when it is free which is not very often.
My first Total PSA was 5.7 taken on 3/18/99.
25 Total PSA's later the number is 9.46 taken on 10/3/14.
Over the 15 years or so the number has been a low of 5.1 on 3/9/01 and a high of 9.36 on 11/30/12.
I have had all of the normal testing done with no bad results found other than a 'PIN' on 12/8/06.
I have an enlarge prostate which is being treated.
I'm up twice very night to do my thing but that doesn't bother me. Now I'm being asked to have a 24 probe biopsy. That doesn't sit well with me. Regardless what the findings of the biopsy I would not agree to treat it. At my age all I want is the assurance that I will be treated for the pain with the 'good stuff'. Heck I feel good and enjoy a good life why risk it? When my Maker has a task for me in His place he will take me, only He knows what that task will be He knows that i have few skills left. I better quit this, wishing you all smooth sailing, take care and enjoy.
Panama City Beach, Fl, you all come.
My PSA went from 4.2 to 8.2 in a little over a year. I had an exam and was told the prostate was smooth and enlarged. I decided to wait two months and retest my PSA. I and it is still at 8. I have been taking Radaflow for the past two months to improve my flow.It works great with no side effects. I am going to ask my urologist to give me something to shrink my prostate and retest in 2 months. My view is that if the PSA goes down 50%, I don't have prostate cancer, just an enlarged prostate. If I doesn't go down, I was have a biopsy and have it read by three different doctors. If I need treatment, I am going for the seed implants.I am a white male 72 years old with no other health problems.
This comment is for she - yes, PSA levels can be elevated with an infection. You may want to find out more about any symptoms he has and explore this. I am not sure that a biopsy is needed, however seek guidance from his physician.
Is it considered normal for a 90 year old man to have PSA of 4.1 and does he need to have a biopsy? His doctor thinks it might just be a prostate infection. At his age is it really necessary to be that concerned?
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There is no mention about have indeterminate knowledge of family history of prostate cancer in family. This is very important.
Other important history for risk: Any family member having cancer especially breast cancer; Also, good for early detection because the cause of prostate cancer is unknown (i.e. environmental, etc).
I have no other symptoms other than slightly enlarged prostate but my psa level was elevated, they have said that I should have a biopsy within 2 weeks. My dad lived to 92 and he had enlarged prostate. I am 62
I have an enlarged prostate and have had blood tests for PSA for the last 5 or 6 years. I am 79 next month and in the last year my results have increased from about 6 or 7 to 11. Having read all I can from the internet and having seen my doctor I still feel it is up to me to decide whether to have a biopsy. With the pro's and con's so varied I am dismayed that there is still not a risk-free test for cancer. Perhaps at 79 I should just 'Keep calm and carry on' !!
At a recent Dr. exam a hard nodule was felt on my prostate and my PSA came back at 0.25. What do think the prbably of cancer is?
So let me ask everyone something . Why doe no one talk about free psa numbers ? I was told since my psa was 6.17 , and high , that i needed a free pas done which i did and it came back too low . 7.7 , So im wondering since reading the report , saying that its a 56 % chance that i have cancer . What are the real chances? Hell scares me to death in it self .
I am so frustrated with medical research.
The most recent thing that has given me hope is a new collaborative website for researches that cuts through red tape and is guided by OUR wisdom and needs. this link shows reseach at stem cell level: http://www.iamscientist.com/projects/49-Extra-telomeric-functions-of-telomerase-isoforms
Cancer is an evolutionary disease. However slow it might show growth it IS growing, nonetheless. Even worse, a cancer that shows slow growth today, that growth can surge tomorrow or sooner. NO! If I have a cancer, or a pre-cancer cell, I want it OUT!
There must me an "unwritten" agreement between the insurance compaines (that pay for the tests!!)and the agencies that recommend against PSA screening. THEIR REASONING IS FALSE!!! EVERY BIT OF INFORMATION THAT CAN HELP DECIDE WHAT YOU SHOULD DO IS VALID!!!!
My husband recently had a biopsy after a PSA of 7.4. Out of 12 samples 8 were 7 or 8 on the Gleason scale. Fortunately no other tissue or bone is involved. We are going forward with hormone, seed implant and radiation. It might not have advanced this far if a former urologist had not suggested waiting. Thank God we found a doctor who believes in aggressive treatment!
So, a better test is needed. In the meantime, we roll the dice? What a catastrophic conclusion by those who have pledged to do no harm. My father had radiation therapy in response to a follow up from an indication from a PSA test, and died cancer-free, even though he was of an age to be considered expendable in that he was not in the 10-15 year demographic. I have watched prostate cancer deaths, and pray my physician has the good sense to continue PSA testing with an aggressive response if indicated. I am disappointed in the medical community regarding this call, especially with no option offered.
Sorry - this is rediculous. If my husband hadn't had his PSA, he'd be doomed. I think this is simply a bad way for healthcare to save money. Digital tests are worthless, as my husband found out. I'm glad he's "cured" now, and I had to change Drs. and insist on a PSA test, or he'd have a faster growing Prostate Cancer than most. One life saved.
At Age of 54 I had a routine PSA test. I had very little symptoms except extra one trip to the bathroom every night. PSA was 7.9. One week later went to another clinic for a second opinion and biopsy and the results were all samples were cancerous and aggressive. Gleason score of 6. Went for a third opinion to Rochester and sugery followed. Both nerve bundles were spared even though I would of been ok with loosing both in order to avoid chemo. And a Better chance of survival. I was given a 99% chance of living 10 years without reoccurance. I will continue to have a PSA test every year in case it comes back. Aggressive cancer just doesn't give a person too much of a chance if caught late. I will also recommend that my son starts getting tested at the age of 40. Hopefully by that time there will be a better way of detecting and CURING CANCER. Thank you Mayo
I find it interesting that the rationale for the latest recommendation is: "The main concerns noted are false-positives, overdiagnosis and overtreatment."
I believe, in general, that these problems noted above are an indictment of the medical establishment rather than the simple PSA test.
False Positives: If annual PSA tests take place then the relative rise year-to-year normally provides a reasonable basis for the decision to have a biopsy.
Overdiagnosis: Here again overdiagnosis is a problem with the medical establishment, not the PSA test. There are additional diagnostic methods and tests available. However, mainstream medicine rarely takes advantage of them. (I was diagnosed in 2006 with Gleason 6 prostate cancer. Following this diagnosis the physicians were ready to cut out the prostate or radiate. Fortunately, I sought other opinions and ended up doing Active Surveillance for 4+ years before treatment was finally called for.)
Overtreatment: As I have noted above, as soon as a Gleason 6 Prostate cancer is diagnosed mainstream medicine is recommends "full bore" treatment. (This is not the fault of the lowly PSA test)
Finally, waiting until symptoms appear is tantamount to a death sentence for men with aggressive prostate cancer. By this time the cancer normally will have spread beyond the prostate and will be difficult or impossible to treat effectively.
My PSA was 7. A biopsy was done and 3 out of 12 samples showed a Gleason score of 8. The cancer was confined to the prostate and had not spread to the lymph nodes. My age was 69. Since I had a friend who died of neglected prostate cancer I decided upon radiation therapy. My PSA, after 10 years, is now <1 and I have no regrets about having been screened and having received radiation. I recommend screening and radiation. Why does nobody mention the Gleason score which is an indication of how aggressive the cancer is?
All I know on this subject is that when my psa jumped up to 6.7 they ordered a biopsy [12]all of which showed cancer four of which were considered very aggressive [9] on the Gleason scale.They quickly ordered radiation and gave me a hormone shot. The final results will be forthcoming. So far, so good,but I'm sure glad I had the psa.
A baseline PSA is appropriate - just like a baseline mammo and Pap smear all which run risks of false positives. I would rather keep an eye on it and know rather then risk the chance of advanced disease. pcA?!
I'm a Black male and I was in the Army for over 14 years. When you hit the age of 40 you get what's call an over 40 phyysical exam and you are checked for Prostate Cancer. I got a clear bill of health. Last year my VA Doctor told me that on my last yearly exam my PAS was up a bit, so a few months later I got another blood test. This time it was up a bit more. Long story short I had a biospy withy 6 of 12 core samples showing cancer, some agressive. I do not have a family history of cancer. As for what to think about the PSA test, I say lets not through the baby out with the bath water.
12 years ago Dr Wong at Mayos Scottsdale told me I had prostate cancer and suggested I take 42 radiation treatments which I did..3 years ago I met with Dr Swanson (Phoenix)my cancer reoccurred...he put me on Hormones which I did not like but it knocks the cancer out..I am healthy and 86 years old
While I disagree with the USPSTF recommendation since I believe it's based on mis-interpreted study data, there's no question PSA tests must be used intelligently. (As for how many docs can talk about it intelligently is another matter...) 70% to 80% of prostate cancer is indolent and usually does not require aggressive treatment, hence its over-treatment. However, we need better approaches to help men with indolent PCa adjust psychologically to a course of "expectant management," knowing they have cancer, but being comfortable with only monitoring it and not ripping it out.
I'm one of the other 20% with advanced PCa, Stage III (Gleason 8, T4) with a rare manifestation that does not express much, if any, PSA (unchanged at 1.5 over 7 years including when I was diagnosed). I was being treated by my primary care doc for BPH, and receiving annual digital rectal exams (DRE) when blood appeared in my urine. A visit to a urologist, and a single DRE led to a biopsy with 11 out of 12 cancerous cores. But then it was too late.
Even so, PSA testing has a role to play since I'm an exception to the rule. But it *must* be accompanied by periodic DREs by an experienced urologist before heading down the biopsy road.
Unfortunately, the USPSTF recommendations will result in men such as one who posted here just saying, "forget it." And many of those will later regret that decision. Trust me, you don't want to be treated for, and then live with the incurable versio
I had received annual check with PSA for over 10 years, blood and personal examination by Physician.Last 2 PSA reflected increase above 4. In 2008 Mayo did Biop with 10 clips of my prostate, finding all negative. Year later PSA up again. In 2009 Mayo did second 10 clip Biop finding 1 clip positive. Considering all forms of treatment I requested Mayo remove my postate in 3/2009. Disease found outside prostate with Gleason score of high 6. After surgery removal 3/09 PSA was 0,000. On 9/09 PSA 0.041. PSA 3/10 0.107. PSA 8/10 0.223.
After my lengthly personal study and research I becamse convince after a Prostateectomy where PSA exceeds 0.2 some cancer possibility still present.
If so only cure was radiation and window of time frames is small for success. With examination by DR. Burskirk of Mayo in Jacksonville we started treatment of Radiation(39 Total)in Jacksonville. The Radiation staff was outstanding with every treatment so easy, no sickness, No pain or side effects. First PSA after radiation completed was on 2/11 finding PSA 0.086. Second after treatment in 2/11 PSA 0.016 and latest in 3/12 was 0.010.
I pursed radiation treatment as a pre-caution measure only.I have no reservations my PSA test over the years, allowed me to uncoved a disease, treat it, which otherwise would have impacted not only the present good quality of life I am enjoying in my late 70's but prevented premature death. Bob
There are more accurate tests then the PSA.
Use them!
have had issues with prostate form many years. had biposy done 15 yrs ago and came back Clean. Since the issue has never been resolved i have to keep going with checkups.
This time the doctor said he didn't like the New lump on the prostate. so at this time he did a PCA3-D test (you pee in a cup and he draws fluid and send to lad. it came back with score of 87.6 and the interpertation was a High Likelihood of finding prostate cancer on biopsy. thats not good for me. some times you wonder why they take so long to do these types of test as maybe it could have beeen found earlier. will have biopsy test here soon and get results. was informed by a doctor fried to get 3 opponions and deside the treatment from there. my current urologist says to do a CRYTHERAPY as a treatment. thats the Freezing with argon. you must be under for this and have herd thats having good results if your not in the stage 4.
have seen some people on Keymo and there life is close to HELL. am wondering if the Kemo is worth it to only get a few more months of life.
i want to be the person to make that decision.
have contacted 2 hospitals in so calif (COH) will only do radation and kemo and thats it. they don't seem to be up to date on this and the other (LL) is quite open and helpful to questions and answers. will check out both for information. i want to be the one who controls my life at its end
Very similar story to Joy's below. My husband would have been considered low risk, however, was tested every year since age 50 just as a part of his physical. At 56 his PSA was slightly elevated, that was 2010. A trial of antibiotics to see if it was an infectious process was tried, without success. Referral to urology/biopsied/had 7 of 12 samples were positive, with 3 being aggressive. An honest/open discussion with the urologist, where all options (radiation / cryo / surgery / proton-radiation / wait & monitor)side-effects and complications were presented. Our decision was for surgery, which was 6 weeks later, all margins clean. Today his PSA remains at 0 and he has ZERO side effects. He is an avid supporter of testing, becuase it gives you the power to make the decision. The idea of 'what you don't know won't hurt you' couldn't be further from the truth.
My husband always had PSA test. 2 years ago his PSA went to 3.5. Our Family Dr. made an appointment with a Urologist who immediately made an appointment for biopsy. 12 out of 12, on one side were cancer the other side of prostate was o.k. He had surgery and is doing great. PSA still is-0- . We have it tested every 3 months. Our friend'
s Physician "watched" his PSA until it became very high. We buried him 6 months ago. My husbands cancer was "agressive". So, how do you know if it is agressive or not? Have the test and do whatever is necessary! You don't know if you don't test!!
I would prefer to investigate a false positive than to see my male patients die from metastatic prostate cancer. Until there is a better detection method I will continue to screen with PSA testing.
What is my physician going to do now? Use a rattle and incantations?
I am 53 years onl. I had a PSA and DRE test in 2008, and my PSA level was 3.2. I thought I was good for 4-5 years. Recently went back in for tests and my PSA has risen to 14. After antibiotics with no reduction in PSA, I had a biopsy, which showed cancer in 6 of the 12 core samples. I have been staged at 2c, possibly 3, and will have a radical prostatectomy next week. The surgeon says one nerve bundle will have to go and hopes to spare the other one, so I will likely be impotent. I sure wish I had monitored my PSA more carefully. KNOW & MONITOR YOUR PSA!!!
I am not getting a PSA, due to the very real risks of "false-positives, overdiagnosis and overtreatment." No thanks.
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I just talked to Flotec's technical person. It sounds like the max PSI that this pump can generate at 25 feet is 47psi. At 15 feet it is 53psi. Their comercial line Sta-Rite pump can generate a much higher psi at those depths. I think it is a matter of me just getting what I paid for.
Thanks for your advice about the other things to check.
: : Gary,
: : I have done all the things that you have suggested. It just seems like the new pump has nothing close to the GPM at the higher PSI that the old pump had.
: : Steve
: If you have not dealt with that old galvanized, you have not done all the things Gary suggested. The problem is most likely the 3/4 galvanized. Did you replace all the other lines between the pump and the pressure tank? Old galvanized can get really nasty internal build-up material that can cause obstructions.
: : : : Anyway, I want to get another pump and the Grundfos All-In-One pump has been recomended to me. Evidently, it does not need a pressure tank. Has anyone heard of this pump or have an opinion about this type of pump?
: : : : As an additional note, my supply line from the well is only a 3/4" galvanized pipe.
: : : The key to solving your problems is the galvanized and the 3/4" line. Is your pump a single line or two line jet? If two line, deep well, did you change the j-body in the well? If not, you have to, it and the pump have to mate. And one manufacturer's may not work well with anothers. They also wear out.
: : : Otherwise, you have have a blocked jet, or nozzle. Single line is in the wet end of the pump in line with the suction line, two line is in j-body of the pump in the well. You could have biomass sucked up against the water inlet to the pump, regardless of the type pump. You could have bought a pump with a different gpm rating than you had and needed for your well and system.
: : : I don't suggest a new pump. Adjust your switch so the pump shuts off by adjusting the tall screw's nut upwardly. That changes both cut-in and out equally. Then drain the tank, check the air presssure in your pressure tank and set it for your pressure range; 1-2 psi less air than the cut-in pressure switch setting, with no water in the tank. See how that works but you really can't expect adequate flow through old rusted and too small galvanized.
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The Emery High Spartan boy's basketball team opened the 2011-12 season with three games last week. The Spartans won one while losing two. Emery opened the season against the defending 1-A state champions and a favorite to win this season's 2-A title, the Wasatch Academy Tigers. Emery lost this game 76-64.
Wasatch Academy is a small private school located in Mt. Pleasant. The past several seasons this school has decided to become a basketball powerhouse as they have gone out and found good foreign players to come to central Utah and ply their skills and continue their education. While fans of opposing schools are not fond of this, it is perfectly legal according to UHSAA. This season is no different as foreign names dot their roster and their starting lineup.
Emery, with no starters returning and only one player that saw any playing time returning, is a team in transition as these players figure out who they really are and how do they play as a team. With that in mind, this actually was a decent game for Emery even though they lost. They competed all night and refused to go away when they were down by double digits throughout the game, they continued to compete.
Wasatch was a team that was big, with a height advantage at every position. Not only were they big but also they were also quick and athletic, and despite being big, Wasatch Academy could also shoot the ball well. So despite all the adjectives one could use to describe this Wasatch Academy team, like big, one would have to use as many adjectives to describe how well Emery played this team.
Senior Dallon Cologie led the team with 20 points in the game while Jordan Cox, the only other senior, added 18 points. Brendon Jorgensen and Dawson Jensen each scored eight points while Bailey Faimalo scored six points and Logan Tuttle scored four points.
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Type: Improvement
Status: Closed
Priority: Major
Resolution: Fixed
Component/s: moodle.org
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Issue Links
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MDLSITE-572 Improve Moodle Books so that it generates income for Moodle
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MDLSITE-496 New moodle.org theme improvements
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MDLSITE-659 Tool tip suggestions
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MDLSITE-374 Moodle.org is not novice friendly
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|Copy text from 6 pages to the docs wiki
|Helen Foster
|Moodle.org: Registered Users
|Martin Dougiamas
|Add "My courses" to the menu
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|Make whole divs clickable
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- Links Hierarchy
More nice-looking sites:
Some homepage ideas:
Centre column - description of Moodle e.g. "Moodle is a course management system (CMS) - a free, Open Source software package designed using sound pedagogical principles, to help educators create effective online learning communities. You can download and use it on any computer (including webhosts), and it can scale from a single-teacher site to a 50,000-student University."
Right column - news, upcoming events blocks
Left column - links:
- Features - update http://docs.moodle.org/en/Features with links to:
Moodle features demo in English
Features demos in other languages
Moodle philosophy http://docs.moodle.org/en/Philosophy
Moodle statistics http://moodle.org/stats/
Moodle sites http://moodle.org/sites/
- Download Moodle - download page with links and short descriptions to:
Download packages
Modules and plugins database
Themes database
Language packs
- Support - improve http://docs.moodle.org/en/Support with links and short descriptions to:
Documentation wiki
Community discussion forums in English
Community discussions in other languages
Commercial support http://moodle.com/support/
Training - Moodle Teacher Certificate
Books about Moodle
- Get Involved - page describing ways of contributing to Moodle:
Donations http://moodle.org/donations/
Documentation http://docs.moodle.org/en/MoodleDocs:Guidelines_for_contributors
Testing and reporting bugs http://tracker.moodle.org/ and http://docs.moodle.org/en/Tracker
Providing support through community discussion forums
- Development - development page with links and short descriptions to:
Modules and plugins development
Theme development
Careers - database of Moodle jobs offered and wanted
Credits http://docs.moodle.org/en/Credits
- News - news page with links to:
Release notes http://docs.moodle.org/en/Release_Notes
Security notices
Moodle Buzz database
Small links at the bottom of the page:
Further thoughts/ideas:
Moodle.org should have a set of front pages in order to fully explain all aspects of Moodle - Moodle support, Moodle development, the Moodle community, Moodle downloads - and the Moodle.org sites.
ALL text on the set of front pages of Moodle.org should be translated into as many other languages as possible, so non-English-speaking visitors to Moodle.org can understand where to go for support etc. and how to become involved in the community.
High accessibility should be a priority for the set of front pages of Moodle.org. In particular, links to the different Moodle.org sites should be clear and understandable, helping users to know what to expect when they follow a link.
It should be easy to navigate between each page in the set of front pages so that a newcomer to Moodle.org can obtain a general overview before following a link to one of the Moodle.org sites.
Moodle contact information should be available.
An explanation of how Moodle.com fits with Moodle.org should be included and Moodle Partners should be better promoted.
Please find attached sample set of front pages showing suggested text only.
Styling still to be done and graphics, additional blocks, adverts for Moodle Partners etc. still to be added.
Summary of discussion between Martin and Helen:
1. Front page should have six sections as big clickable icons or something spread out on the page
2. Six links should appear in the header (across the top) on ALL Moodle pages in all Moodle.org sites (have buttons in the header, just above the nav bar)
3. Links are: About, Downloads, Support, Community, Development, News
4. Wording of text to be improved by copying it to the docs wiki
5. News could be a collection of RSS feeds
6. About should include a features section, also explanation about the Moodle.org sites
7. No left navigation necessary - individual pages can have whatever blocks they need for local nav
8. Re. translation, we can add a new file to the lang packs called moodle.org.php
9. Standard footer links: Copyright, Contact (different sites may have more footer links)
10. Create subpages rather than resources, maybe in an /info directory e.g. http://moodle.org/info/support
11. Make a to-do list - subtasks in the tracker
Re. "Do you think documentation should be hidden in support?" - I think that a link to Moodle Docs should be included in both Support and Community, then of course there will be links all over to particular pages in the documentation. IMHO this should be enough.
To summarise, all Moodle pages in all Moodle.org sites will have the following links in the header:
- About
- Downloads
- Support
- Community
- Development
- News
All pages will also have the following link in the footer (in addition to other footer links):
- Contact
The text in these pages will be simple, straightforward and succinct, so that it's easily translatable.
Suggestion from Martin re. text in 7 pages: use links such as http://moodle.org/modules, http://moodle.org/cvs, http://moodle.org/stats/
(More can be set up.)
Could I suggest bringing the tracker and moodledocs into the same navigation structure if possible? Moodledocs currently has the homelink, but the tracker doesn't. A unified theme across all 3 would be great too.
Matt, thanks for your suggestions. Hopefully they'll all be implemented.
I notice Joomla has a nice and colourful new look:
The various top level pages are settling down now and can be edited further of course. There's still some sub-pages to be added like "Associations" for IMS etc.
But for the very front page I'm currently envisioning:
- six nice big icons (with title beneath) for About Moodle,News,Support, Development,Security, Downloads (each goes to overview page)
- these blocks on right: Login, Latest news, Upcoming events, Networked peers
How does that sound?
Six big icons with titles beneath (and title tags giving further description) sound good, though I think ( = feel strongly!) that Security should be replaced by Community i.e. About Moodle, News, Support, Community, Development, Downloads
Browsing the websites for other open source projects, I notice that there is always a Community link, and I can't find any website with a Security link.
Regarding blocks on the right, I'd recommend as few as possible i.e. Latest news only (assuming we're going to make a lot more use of it from now on!) Also, shouldn't networked peers have its own page?
How about adding an Planet Moodle RSS feed block to a News and/or Development page? (I love Planet Moodle!)
I think we did have Community as a menu originally but what would go under that menu? Aren't all the moodle.org menus are about the community...
I agree with the rest though, for sure!
Please can we have a contact link to http://moodle.org/contact/ in the footer?
Also, I'm wondering whether it's necessary to have an Overview link in each of the dropdown menus, since the top word in each menu links to the corresponding overview page. I suggest that each overview page includes all the links in the dropdown menu.
Could we have a site search like on http://mahara.org/ i.e. the words 'Google custom search' inside the search box, and a smaller search button with just the word 'Search' on it.
I suggest that all links have title text providing additional information.
Regarding menu links, here are my recommendations:
- About (including a few screenshots and links to Moodle Docs)
Demo site - http://demo.moodle.org
Statistics - http://moodle.org/stats/
- News http://moodle.org/news/
(no need for a dropdown menu - security announcements etc. look great in RSS feed blocks)
- Support
Documentation - http://docs.moodle.org
Community forums - http://moodle.org/course/view.php?id=5
Books - http://moodle.org/books/
Commercial services - http://moodle.org/support/commercial/
- Community
Discussion areas - http://moodle.org/course/category.php?id=1 (not quite sure what's best here)
Events - http://moodle.org/events/ (why describe it as 'Events and conferences' when one word e.g. 'Events' would be sufficient?)
Sites - http://moodle.org/sites/
Networked sites
Moodle jobs - http://moodle.org/mod/data/view.php?id=7232
- Development
Developers - http://moodle.org/mod/cvsadmin/view.php?cid=1
Tracker - http://tracker.moodle.org/
Developer meetings - http://docs.moodle.org/en/Developer_meetings
Developer site - http://dev.moodle.org
- Download - as for current menu
Items still to be placed in a menu:
Moodle Certification - http://moodle.org/course/view.php?id=48
Other courses from this category: http://moodle.org/course/category.php?id=1
Please feel free to implement / ignore my suggestions
One tiny thing: Just today noticed that the Moodle icon (bottom left) doesn't show the Moodle version running. Is that on purpose? Else I'd put it there (to allow people to know).
Thanks Helen! I've reimplemented the menus that way (with small changes and additions) and I agree they work much better!
I added Contact too, and Eloy, added the version though I'm not sure we really need to publish that for moodle.org do we?
I also changed the Home page link to "Home" in the navbar ... I think it's working much better than "Moodle" ...
I also made the navmenus more consistent by removing the "activity index" pages and the titles all start with "Moodle.org: " now.
I kept the overview pages ... I still think most people will not think to click on the menu title ...
It is looking very, very good.
Minor editorial comments:
1. Menus on the demo site are not quite in synch.
2. http://moodle.org/support/commercial/ is missing an obvious link to moodle.com/partenrs at the start.
3. On http://moodle.org/community/ should the 3rd bullet link to the Moodle Conferences course?
4. Similarly, should http://moodle.org/events/ link there.
5. Develop new code for Moode bullet needs a closing )
6. http://moodle.org/development/ - bold would be better than caps for 'VOTE'.
I guess a few more pictures would be nice in due course.
Also, it seems that the difference between: News->Overview and News->General announcements doesn't exist.
PD: About showing the version over Moodle logo. It's a tiny thing but I think it's ok to do so as long as rest of moodle sites out there are showing it (standard themes). Also it'll provide info for curious (and crackers).
From http://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=112413#p493491
It would make sense to link to either cvs.moodle.org or xref.moodle.org as a 'Browse source' link in the Development menu.
Re. renaming the Home page link to "Home" in the navbar, this results in
This email is a copy of a message sent to you at "Home"
Perhaps the lang string could be changed?
If we're keeping the overview pages, could the menu title links be removed i.e. make the menu titles not clickable?
I fixed that string (made a new one in moodledata/lang/en_utf8_local/message.php).
Doh, yes, you're right. OK, I've changed the site names to "Moodle.org" and made the theme replace it with Home in the navlinks.
Some icons from Catalyst! http://temp.mjollnir.org/icon_sample.jpg Thoughts?
Icons look nice.
I miss one big thing - support for other languages ( http://moodle.org/course/category.php?id=3 )
In my opinion front page should have at least one link to those non english forums somewhere...
The link is in http://moodle.org/community/ but all those people who have difficulties with english may be lost when they visit moodle.org for the first time.
If you change language from language menu it just changes a couple of titles from blocks - but no titles from top menu.
If site block to forums in English, forums in other languages etc is out of a question maybe at least a link under Support or Community could be helpfull:
Other languages
Re. the Catalyst icons, I like them the best so far - apart from the About Moodle one, they look good as a set.
Mauno, thanks for your comments. The plan is for everything on the front pages of Moodle.org to be translated into as many other languages as possible, so when a Finnish speaker visits moodle.org they'll have a link to the Finnish Moodle course and the Finnish documentation.
Once we've finalized the text in English, we'll be able to work on
The recent announcement requested suggestions regarding moodle 2 theme be posted here (as opposed to just homepage suggestions....)
I think that asciimathml should be included with atb least one moddle 2 theme. I created a separate tracker item for this http://tracker.moodle.org/browse/MDLSITE-599 but thought I'd add a reference here since the inviation.
As easy as it is to implement, it would be nice to see moodle.org offer as well as Moodle offer major themes with and without asciimathml with fallback invoked via theme.
I can't find a link anywhere on the new site that leads to the "Home->Using Moodle->Forums" page anymore
This page allows you see which forums you are subscribed to and which ones you are not subscribed to, and let's you quickly subscribe or unsubscribe as you want. I really miss a quick link on the Moodle site to this page. Fortunately, I had it bookmarked otherwise I would never have found it again
I think this should be under Support as a seperate item (something like "Support Forum") or at least it should show up in the Community Forum list somewhere as a seperate item.
I quite agree with Jeff that a link to the "Home->Using Moodle->Forums" page is missing and should be made available.
Here are my comments on the new moodle.org theme as of Dec. 28th, 2008.
Overall I find the new theme really nice, refreshing, unobtrusive, user-friendly. My remarks deal with legibility.
1- The main font displayed throughout the site is selected from the following sans-serif fonts: "Lucida Grande","Bitstream Vera Sans",Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif
I regret that (on Windows systems) Verdana does not come before "Bitstream Vera Sans". AFAIK Verdana is the only sans-serif font which has a distinct glyph for the uppercase "i" letter and the lowercase "l" letter. On Windows systems, Verdana is the best choice for sans-serif. I do admit that otherwise "Bitstream Vera Sans" looks nice.
2- When entering posts on moodle.org forums, why is Trebuchet the default font? This is not consistent, because the posts will be displayed in the default site font ("Bitstream Vera Sans" for Windows) anyway... Also, in the HTML editor the default font size is much too big.
3- In the HTML editor, the Address style can be used, but it no longer show when the post has been posted.
4- The hovering over links is: hover{ color: #d8a51f; text-decoration: underline;}
That #d8a51f orange-brownish color does not make a sufficient contrast when the user is hovering over a link. It becomes especially illegible when the link is set agains an orange background, such as the "Moodle Docs for this page" link at the bottom.
5- On the forums page, it is difficult to see the links to unread posts, because they are very far away (on the right) from the forum names (on the left). For the sake of legibility, I would like to have visible row lines there, such as we do have when we enter a forum, each topic has its own white/grey row line.
I like the old Moodle look much better. This feels diluted. Come to think of it, I liked the basic Moodle 1.4 theme the best of all. Let's have a public poll of users. Be sure to have more than one question in the poll (ie: newbie vs. oldbie) to determine if beginners do like this better than old guys like me.
Thanks everyone for comments, I'll get to them right after new year. Fixed the editor fonts already. Don, we can have a poll, but I don't think it's realistic to revert now. Perhaps you can express in more detail what is missing so we can move it forward.
Sorry for joining the conversation late. I had no idea there was a problem with our moodle.org site. I agree Dokeos and others are more elegant. But I have seen or heard no evidence of problems that new visitors had with our site. That is why a questionnaire or focus group of new and old users is necessary before making a radical change. Here are some initial problems I see with the new format.
- Multiple clicks required now to go to frequently visited places whereas one click required before
- Rich interface reduced to overly simplified interface
- New icons are a downgrade (sorry to whoever created them--blush)
- Overall, I feel confused and frustrated. I would like to feel delighted, intrigued and curious. Recently, I felt this when I entered the DekiWiki site. See them also for beautiful examples of screen layout and icons.
My solution:
1. retain the left column and right columns with similar functions/links as before but make more elegant
2. keep the newly added top menu bar--it is useful as a redundant search but should not be the only search mechanism
3. improve icons and create uniform layout scheme (right column and center column seem out of sync)
4. add a questionnaire to the front page of Moodle. Title: What do you think of the new look of Moodle? Ask questions such as the following to visitors:
- What is your experience with Moodle? First time visitor, beginner, used it for a year, used it extensively as developer or admin
- What problems have you had in the past with the moodle.org website?
- What do want to find when you come to the front page of moodle.org (long list of checkboxes here)
- What do you like with the new Moodle website design?
- What would you like to change or improve?
In forums, increase contrast between text box and other areas. I cannot see the box on my browser (Firefox). Also, make solid bar of color rather than a thin line of color (see Moodle 1.4 forums for example--beautiful!)
I would like to add up to the above comments of Mauno Korpelainen about people looking for non-english courses. Eg. for accessing the course "Moodle en français", you need 4 clicks, provided that you know where you go:
1) Click the "Community" link (or the "Community" top menu item)
2) Click the link "Other languages" (which you'll still have to find in the middle of the page)
3) And click on "Moodle en français".
I got several notices that newbies simply don't find the non-english speaking courses!
Like Mauno, I suggest at least a link "Other languages" under Support or Community, that links to http://moodle.org/course/category.php?id=3.
I would like the General developer forum being directly accessible via the top Development menu item.
I really had a hard time finding it today because I first looked under "Community" for the "Community forums" before I found those under "Support".
And finally finding the General developer forum on that page also took me some time until I realized that is only part of the Using Moodle course so that the "Community forums" link shows a different content depending which course you choose which I find very confusing.
Another small suggestion: What about using those tiny little flags for depicting forums in other languages? (Which flag to choose for English might stir a heated debate, though...)
Hi everyone, my 5 cents..
I agree that the look is now diluted and looks less professional. The new gradient adds a lot to the issue. It is washed out and for some reason not smooth, since I see horizontal colored lines in all browsers.
Can we please make it a solid color, or shade it darker (not lighter) just a little bit and only at the very bottom/top
New icons at the front page are rather bad too, sorry.
As for the look of theme "inside" Moodle courses - they also became less "readable"
For example, it is hard for me to follow the discussion flow, sine I do not see post borders anymore. Same stands for topic/weeks separation or even course page border itself.
I would vote for bold colors and higher contrast. (plus arial vs verdana)
I wish I was a graphic designer
Elena, could you post some screenshots? It sounds to me like your computer is operating on a very reduced number of colours. What operating system are you using? Are you using 32-bit colour?
Win XP with 32-bit. I have tried different resolutions too. Here is a screenshot - I can see 2 visible lines: one grayish below triangular, another more yellowish below it.
I guess I should have posted it here...
Win XP with 32-bit. I have tried different resolutions too. Here is a screenshot - I can see 2 visible lines: one grayish below triangular, another more yellowish below it.
Hmm, thanks, I guess I can't really see those, even in the screenshot. That might be just my computer or maybe not.
So you see the same problems in the gradient on this page? http://tracker.moodle.org/browse/MDLSITE-132 (it's a different gradient image).
I zoomed right in on a low-res screen with 16 bits and now I can see it. I think they are JPEG artifacts ... I've fixed that image now I think - try a shift-reload on http://moodle.org
yep, much better!
Though I can still see sharp difference between the top and bottom, plus there is a lighter middle part and some extra colors mashed in. I cannot do much on this machine, so I will attache a better screenshot with my marks tomorrow (your evening, I guess
Well, there is still shading yes, it's supposed to look like it's a 3D strip coming out of the page.
sorry, it does not look like one
I would vote against 3-d, shades, harsh gradients, or "wet" look, unless we have a graphic designer.
Looks like top navigation is getting switched all the time now. I see Using Moodle (main forum) and Forums in the Support dropdown, then on the next click or page, I see just Community Forums..
Maybe we can stick to something for now and have some kind of a mock-up test instance first?
Navigation, etc:
When I tell people about modle.org site, I point out to:
- documentation - kept in a wiki
- support (QandA) - provided via forums which are located inside courses in stand-alone moodle installation (novice users do not get it)
- if you are a hard-core, browse through the tracker
I think we need to make those a little more prominent.
Also, top navigation is inconsistent. E.g. you click on Support tab - you have a page that provides an overview of Support area (like it)
You click on Download tab - you are getting "Moodle Core packages" right away, no overview page.
Some pages have bread-crumbs, some not. I would move the breadcrums further apart from top navigation, thus users will see that those are not the part of overall structure, when they are not. And I think they should not be, since we are mixing too much together.
Overall, I would use sub-tabs where relevant and not breadcrumbs.
Ufff, saying all that, will you be interested in a mockup?
The gradient was added here (by someone who is a fulltime designer) http://tracker.moodle.org/browse/MDLSITE-496?focusedCommentId=59774&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#action_59774 I've not heard anyone else not liking it, so perhaps it's just a taste thing.
The inconsistencies in Menus are because the menu is actually spread across 5 separate systems. This is being worked on - it's dependent on:
- working out how to support languages on all systems (because those support links for example will be language-specific).
- finishing the system to copy all the menu items around for all the languages
The download top-level view, I do agree with you. I actually had that page at one point http://moodle.org/downloads
Breadcrumbs .... I think only Tracker doesn't have them - that's because it's just too hard to change currently.
Could we please have a font with solid caracters for body text? Verdana, Helvetica, Arial... The current diluted print is very unpleasant to read.
Bente Olsen > Could we please have a font with solid caracters for body text? Verdana, Helvetica, Arial... The current diluted print is very unpleasant to read.
Verdana is definitely the best choice (for Windows environments). Please let's have it ASAP.
But Verdana doesn't support Unicode properly, does it? And we're not all on Windows ...
it looks really fine for me on my Windows Vista machine though ... do you have anti-aliasing turned on in your Display settings? Can you guys provide screenshots?
Martin Dougiamas added a comment - 29/Jan/09 12:41 AM But Verdana doesn't support Unicode properly, does it?
From what I've read on the Web re Unicode, it's hard to say that one font is better than another when it comes to displaying Unicode. Anyway, at the moment the font of choice for moodle.org is "Bitstream Vera Sans" which does not have more Unicode support than Verdana, so...
On my Windows XP screen, with ClearType anti-aliasing ON, Bitstream Vera Sans looks OK - even nice-looking - except for the recurrent problem of not differenciating betweeen the uppercase "i" letter and the lowercase "l" letter. This to me is redhibitory in any font design.
I do not understand what Bente Olsen means with "The current diluted print is very unpleasant to read". Yes, a screenshot would help.
Drop down is going "behind the scenes in wiki and tracker in Firefox 2.
About the fonts.
Now I have looked at moodle.org with different os'es, XP, Ubuntu, OpenSuse. It seem to be a local problem on my XP.
I have a new computer with a preinstalled XP. On that the font looks fine. I compared the screen settings on my old and the new XP, but there is no difference there. And Martin, I think the anti-aliasing is turned on. This is not what it is called in Danish in the settings, but I can choose between Standard and Clear Type. It is set to Standard.
Joseph, I understand that you can not understand what I mean with 'diluted'. I now discovered that I have misunderstood that word myself. Have a look at my screenshot.
Anyway, after having looked at the site on other machines where the letters are shown as solid caracters, I like the font displayed better than before.
It is possible for me to deactivate the use of 'Standard' or 'Clear Type' screen setting, if I do that Bitstream VS looks a lot better. In the end, though, I will vote for Verdana. I agree with Joseph that it is the best choice when you are using Windows.
I think that fonts used in the tracker are much better than in the Using Moodle, etc, areas. Especially in the breadcrumbs.
And, sorry to repeat this, but the gradient still looks like 2 separate horizontal lines. E.g. this one doesn't - http://test.moodle.org/1.9/theme/standardwhite/gradient.jpg
I have a concern about automatic linking of glossary entries in the Using Moodle course. While I understand that this way we can show Moodle functionality to the users, it makes is cumbersome for email subscriptions.
I choose to receive emails in html format, therefore most of the time I cannot tell why the word was highlighted: because the poster provided me a link, or because it is just another glossary definition for "Interface"
Elena Ivanova's comment - 04/Feb/09 09:12 AM
>I have a concern about automatic linking of glossary entries in the Using Moodle course. etc.
I agree with Elena and I am not a great fan of that automatic linking to glossary entries in the moodle.org forum discussions. Since the introduction of the new interface, however, the subdued dotted underlining is much less obtrusive than used to be the grey background which really ruined the appearance of discussions text! To the point that I systematically resorted to the <nolink> tag in all of my own posts!
As for Elena's second point I suggest that the context of hyperlinked words in the discussions she rfeceiveds by e-mail should make it clear whether those hyperlinks point to the glossary definitions or to a link put in by the poster.
I am not completely sure where to post this..
Looks like a lot of people are confused where all the stuff is, e.g. discussion on feature development can happen both in tracker and in the forum. If we are not having a separate sub-forum, e.g. "gradebook development", etc, then messages tend to get lost. I just saw 3 people in the last week who were lost that way.
We do not have an option to tag our posts, so how about naming the forum threads accordingly?
E.g. Insert "DEV. DISCUSSION: at the beginning of the subject of every thread that relates to development.
We can rename most recent development topics to reflect this. It will be a quick fix, and I believe it will be handy. (We have such system on our support emails - works like a charm)
BUMP! This has still not been fixed...
Joseph Rézeau added a comment - 28/Dec/08 07:26 PM
3- In the HTML editor, the Address style can be used, but it no longer shows when the post has been posted.
Is it possible to change the header_stripe_grad.jpg with the attached file? In my vies there is an ugly border between the grey stripe_grad and the white backgrounded Moodle-Logo...
moodle_header.jpg - how I see moodle.org now
header_stripe_grad.jpg - my solution to fix the grey thing
Oh, well - it could be artwork... but design ? Well, if it's so - okay... but I started a second (and on this issue last - I promise ) try on http://tracker.moodle.org/browse/MDLSITE-496.


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Milan Lucic And Drafting Coke Machines
Jonathan Willis
April 22 2012 03:31PM
I first came across the term "Coke Machine" reading Lowetide's blog roughly five years ago. Lowetide was talking about the big forwards that often made up the heart of the Oilers' drafts under Kevin Prendergast.
For the most part, those picks didn't work out for Edmonton. Sometimes, though, they do.
In 2006, Milan Lucic was ranked 58th among North American skaters by NHL Central Scouting; toss in a few goalies and some European skaters and that projects to a pick in the third or fourth round. Boston took him with one of their two second round draft picks.
Why would Central have a great power forward like Lucic ranked so low? Mostly because, in his draft year, Lucic had a pretty minimal offensive impact. Here are the WHL forwards drafted in the second round in 2006, along with their scoring totals in their draft year and their projected totals in the NHL in that year (using Gabriel Desjardins' league equivalencies):
|Ondrej Fiala
|Riley Holzapfel
|Ben Maxwell
|Milan Lucic
|Codey Burki
The year before this, Lucic was a 23-point guy in the BCHL.
Now, we can make a few comments in Lucic's favour – first, he was born in June 1988, meaning that he was one of the younger players in his draft class, and second that his role shifted as the season went on, as evidenced by his improved playoff scoring (seven points in 18 games). Even so, based on his offensive totals, Lucic was a great example of a "Coke Machine" selection – big and mean and with a poor track record offensively. It was enough to get him drafted in the second round.
Boston, needless to say, doesn't regret making the pick. The next year Lucic exploded offensively, jumping from nine goals to 30 and finishing a hair under the point-per-game mark. The year after that, he was playing NHL hockey for the Bruins.
When Prendergast and company drafted guys like Jean-Francois Jacques and Colin McDonald, they were hoping to do exactly what Boston did with Lucic: land a big, physical, power forward.
The Jacques selection in particular stands out as a reasonable bet – his offensive totals were pretty decent in his draft year, and he didn't earn the "Crazy Train" nickname by playing a passive game. To this day, I wonder what he would have turned into if he hadn't run into that horrific series of injuries early in his career (I have the same thoughts about Doug Lynch, who had as fine an AHL rookie season as any Oilers defenseman in recent memory).
Geoff Paukovich was another draft pick that stands out as a decent bet – he scored 12 goals as a 17-year old in college, and combined that with a nasty disposition and a humongous frame. Unfortunately, the offense stagnated and then dropped off; he made his pro debut in the ECHL where he failed to hit the 30-point mark.
With the NHL's ongoing affection for big, mean players – both forwards and defense – skaters with those particular traits tend to go earlier in the draft than their offensive totals or overall game would otherwise indicate.
Under Stu MacGregor's watch, the Oilers haven't given up on these sorts of picks, though they've arguably become a little more balanced with their selections. Teemu Hartikainen, the sixth round pick who is tracking far better than his draft number, picked up 17 points in 37 games in Finnish junior hockey in his draft year. Three picks in the top-100 the year after have had less success, with Troy Hesketh already a bust, Cameron Abney a five-point guy over 43 AHL/ECHL games this season, and Kyle Bigos a promising but unheralded defender still playing college hockey.
That's the thing about drafting Coke Machines – a lot of them get lost along the way. But every so often, there's a Milan Lucic waiting to emerge. It's also hard to get them any other way: if they score in their draft year they go early, they're rarely on the trade market and if they are they cost a fortune, and not a lot of them reach free agency.
Teams want players like Milan Lucic. At 18, though, it can be awfully difficult to distinguish Milan Lucic from Jean-Francois Jacques.
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Draft Tom Wilson.
Wilson looks good. I have read some reports that he would be an excellent addition to the Oilers.
I know I'm going to sound like a broken record but...Henrik Samuelsson anyone?
I watched Samuelsson against Kootenay in the Oil Kings' opening round. He was battling with an Ice forward and they were trading shots in the Ice zone the whole shift. Finally, both were heading off for a line change and just as the Ice player is stepping onto his bench Samuelsson hooks the player's stick out of his hands so a teammate has to go and fetch it for him. The ref had turned his back to the play and didn't see a thing while the Ice player was left fuming on the bench.
It was a jerk move and I loved it. That entire game he was stirring up the Ice and by the game's end it was obvious that many of their players would have loved nothing more than 30 seconds with Samuelsson in the corner and the ref looking elsewhere.
The Oilers have lots of class and skill. They even might have some meanness in the system in Marincin and Bigos. Adding someone like a Wilson or a Samuelsson who can be a big, effective, tough, pest would be great for this team's future.
The nice thing about Samuelsson is that, as opposed to Wilson, he manages to stir the pot without serving as many penalties. His junior suspensions have also been playes that wouldn't have been so harshly received had they been in the professional ranks.
April 22 2012, 04:22PM
Your new league equivalency stat is reaching new lows in journalism, even for you.
if the Oilers take Yakupov, it frees them up to take more of these big guys in the later rounds.
the problem with the Pendergast era was using picks on these types because a solid offensive core had not been established, diluting the ability to establish such a core - along with defensive depth - by wasting bullets on role players.
now is the right time to start drafting big. solidify game breaking offense with Yakupov, THEN draft the body breakers.
Great read about big guys! There has been one factor that never seems to get mentioned in rating players.......and that is physical intensity.
A medium sized guy like Darcy Tucker ( who had tons of emotional and physical intensity) is harder to play against than a big softie like JFJ!
I suspect that most guys who have this make up, have always had this make-up throughout their hockey lives. This means that this attitude should be on display in their junior careers, much like Matt Dumba?
We should targeting this kind of intensity! Does anyone have players like this that they know?
April 22 2012, 06:46PM
Good read JW.
If drafting is a coke machine is hit and miss, might I suggest the Oilers pro scouts start earning a pay check already.
I don't know how hard it would be to get Clowe out of the SJS but he's a big dude with good point production and around 100 + minutes a year.
If not Clowe the Oilers should try and steal Konopka this summer during UFA, he's going to be " Hot Property " this summer!
It's a bloody shame Dustin Penner doesn't play with some piss and vinager, that guy just pissed away an opportunity to one of the very good ones! I would be surprised if he's in hockey two years from now playing the way he has of late..
@Walter Sobchak
As much as I've disliked his apparent lack of intensity in the past, I think Penner has played really well for LA in round one and he's been a factor in some key game situations.
April 22 2012, 08:15PM
As much as I've disliked his apparent lack of intensity in the past, I think Penner has played really well for LA in round one and he's been a factor in some key game situations.
True, He has. I think he could be so much better if he played with an edge and actually hit let alone finnish his checks. Can you imagine if Penner played with an edge, maybe beat a few players up. The space he could have on the ice. That's why it's a shame he played the way he did this year.
After missing out on the best name in the draft last year (Boon Jenner), the Oilers need to rectify this and take Boo Nieves in the 2nd this year.
He's 6'3" and about 185lbs so I'm not sure you can call him a coke machine, but he has good hands and can skate.
@Walter Sobchak
Penner to Phoenix next season? It's where all the old Oilers (and old everyone else, it appears) go to rejuvenate their game. Perhaps the most appropriately named city in the league when it comes to career revival.
I've also heard Winnipeg, which would be interesting. Byfuglien and Penner on the same team? Can't possibly see how that could go sideways.
April 23 2012, 02:18AM
@Clarence Swamptown
I don't get it, how is it a new low or low at all?
Is this statement just to provoke hostility?
NHLE has been used a lot in articles on Oilers Nation and every other fan blog site. I'm really confused by this statement.
April 23 2012, 02:23AM
Also with JFJ it's tough to say what could have been. He went through at least 4-5 injuries with his back from about 2008-2010. That's the type of stuff that alters a players career from NHLer to AHLer, especially during the prime development years of his early twenties.
April 23 2012, 05:29AM
A) It's not new.
B) It's not mine.
C) Both of those things are spelled out above.
D) I prefer critiques of any writing - mine or others - to come from folks with basic ability to comprehend the written word. Based on your failure to grasp points a) and b), I'd suggest that you're probably better off doing something else.
Jonathan, as a sports writer, if you can't handle some criticism from your readers, then, " I'd suggest that you're probably better off doing something else."
Just watched the Knuckleheads get knocked out, principally because they couldn't win puck and positioning battles close to the net. Is this a size issue or lack of compete by the Canucks? The St Louis Blues will play the Kings next. The Blues rely on smaller forwards for scoring, so I guess we'll get an answer on that. This has applications to the Oil and how they need to build this team moving forward. Watch what is successful. It's quite clear that the standard for officiating has changed for the playoffs. Lots more interference, etc.
April 23 2012, 01:56PM
On a site featuring both Jason Gregor and Robin Brownlee, it surprises me to see anyone suggesting an ON writer should grin and bear it while people take pot shots from the peanut gallery.
That's not the way it works here.
April 23 2012, 03:08PM
After missing out on the best name in the draft last year (Boon Jenner), the Oilers need to rectify this and take Boo Nieves in the 2nd this year.
He's 6'3" and about 185lbs so I'm not sure you can call him a coke machine, but he has good hands and can skate.
Really, how can you say Oscar Klefbomb is a wrose name than Boon Jenner. Granted, great name, but Klefbomb? Comon. The fact he has a booming point shot is almost serendipitous. Think of all the headlines for that name. Dropping the Klefbomb, klefbombs away. The list is endless.


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Halo 4 may have achieved the global milestone of generating US$220 million in 24 hours, but the game has also managed to set a pair of records in Australia.
Halo 4 may have achieved the global milestone of generating US$220 million in 24 hours, but the game has also managed to set a pair of records in Australia.
With the departure of original developer, Bungie, there has been a lot of expectation riding on Microsoft to keep existing fans happy while at the same time invigorating the decade old franchise.
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For work use, Microsoft Word and Excel programs pre-installed on the device are adequate for preparing short documents.
The Fujitsu LifeBook UH574 allowed for great mobility without being obnoxiously heavy or clunky. Its twelve hours of battery life did not disappoint.
The screen was particularly good. It is bright and visible from most angles, however heat is an issue, particularly around the Windows button on the front, and on the back where the battery housing is located.
My first impression after unboxing the Q702 is that it is a nice looking unit. Styling is somewhat minimalist but very effective. The tablet part, once detached, has a nice weight, and no buttons or switches are located in awkward or intrusive positions.


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Sony has reacted to recent rumors that claimed that Playstation 3 games would only be playable on the console they were first used on. The Japanese consumer electronics giant claims that this is not the case and that PS3 titles will be playable on any PS3 console.
The stories, which begun surfacing a week ago, suggested that a new technology would be introduced by Sony that would include an authentication code carried by each game. Once that code had been read by one PS3 machine it would be unreadable by others. This technology would mean the end of the second hand games market as well as the end of rentals. It was immediately suggested that the recent rants by Epic's Mark Rein regarding the evils of rentals and second-hand sales was a sign that developers were on-board.
Sony has now gone on record regarding these stories to the Guardian in the U.K. and Jennie Kong, UK PR Manager at SCEE said: I would like to clarify that this is false speculation and that PlayStation 3 software will not be copy protected to a single machine but will be playable on any PlayStation 3 console.
This pretty much puts an end to the rumors, although the detailed accounts of how the authentication system will work suggest that Sony had, at some point, considered such a route. It is still not clear if the authentication technology will be used with Blu-ray at all or if it was simply a research project that will not be utilized in the market place.
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Isn't there an authentication tech that they are using with Blu-ray though? Similar to those DivX machines that required you to be hooked up to a phone line at all times? Yeah its another rumor, but isn't it supposed to break your PS3 if it identifies a Blu-Ray as not authentic? Just kinda bugs me if dust gets on the disk or something and misreads some disks...
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I hope sony goes down big time, and ms too. They are starting to go too far in order to try to fight piracy. I dont like having limits imposed to me because other people copy and use their stuff for free. CD-keys were enough, whoever owns a pirated game that requires a legit cd-key for online play wouldnt have bought the game anyways.


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By JANE MARSHALLDover, Tenn.
To the Editor:
HB270 would make it more difficult to win malpractice lawsuits against emergency health care providers. Chaucer posed the question "What do women want?" Who knows, but it seems obvious what doctors want: everything. They want additional tort reform because a cap on non-economic damages proved not to be the panacea that tort reformers claimed it would be.
In fact, medical malpractice insurance premiums in virtually all the states that have a cap are higher than in states that don't have a cap. Doctors want legislators to provide protection from accountability when they commit malpractice. They want to be allowed to continue practicing medicine regardless of the number of times they commit malpractice.
What do victims of medical malpractice want? They want their constitutional right to have a jury decide the appropriate damages when they go to court looking for the only justice that is available to them. They want the medical profession to do a much better job of addressing medical malpractice. They want the good doctors who stand behind that white wall of silence, which is a hallmark of the medical profession, to weed out the bad doctors. Legislators who support doctors at the expense of medical malpractice victims should be ashamed of themselves.