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I've been desperately trying to find a AAA sandbox MMO with absolutely no luck. Basically every sandbox game I find is complete garbage, unfinshed, has terrible graphics, no story or purpose, terrible mechanics, and so on.
I've tried countless cookie-cutter MMO's that are out now, just to find the EXACT same game with different graphics, and not much else.
TERA is a perfect example of what I mean, but there are *so many* others, if not, every single other game.
This is all you do:
1) Start your character in the same exact starting area for each toon you create
2) Pick up quests
3) Go to area X and kill Y monsters of type Z, where the mobs are ALWAYS there, constanly respawning at the same exact location, which are always of the same level, with absolutely NO variation. They don't even have the intelligence to defend each other. Only variation is to pick up/gather some objects on the ground, which are always in the same area as well.
4) Turn in Quest(s)
5) Go back to step 2
6) There is no step 6
Besides pvp, which I haven't tried (but not my point), and some linear dungeons, that's really ALL there is to TERA and just about 30 other games I've tried in just the last 2 years.
There's a reason Ultima Online is STILL going after what, 15 years?? It has not gone F2P, and STILL gets subs. Ever wonder why? Most of you probably know the answer.
Because it's a sandbox and different from almost every other game out there.
You do whatever you feel like doing. You can start in many different towns, and you can go anywhere you feel like, in other words, my favorite part on an MMO that is now GONE from almost ever MMO out there. You will randomly come across all types of monsters and creatures, but yes, there are certain types that you'll find in dungeons, which does make sense. But in the wilderness, you can find wandering mobs which aren't nearly all in the same location. You can harvest and mine almost ANYWHERE you want, not just in one exact location.
Exploring is bascially dead in almost every game. Like the steps above. You move in a linear path from area 1 to area 2 to area 3, and that's basically the entire game. For the most part TERA's (and most every other game) area's and maps always have mobs that are higher level than the last area. It's ridiculously linear. Sure, you can go to a different area, but you won't be able to kill anything. Again, EXACTLY like countless other games. The worse, being the Asian Grinder games. These games are almost identical in design. Nothing differentiates one game from another, except slightly different graphics and sound effects.
I've found some sandbox like games (with difficulty), but honestly, most of them are the quality of 3 smart HS/college kids working in their basement for a school project. Even supposedly AAA titles like Mortal Online, which I thought was TERRIBLE. Graphics suck, playability sucked, and the mindless kill anyone anywhere for the sake of griefing and stealing all their crap, does NOT define a sandbox. The game is complete anarchy, and that seems really stupid to me, let alone, not even remotely enjoyable.
I've googled sandbox games, and tried all of them. Really, every one in the list. They are all TERRIBLE. The quality of all them was sub-bar, playabiliy sucked, and most were made of completel empty worlds where nothing was happening. Exploing just to find nothing is pointless.I read a GREAT article where the author argued that open world/full loot pvp with 0 restrictions in completely mindless and does not define a sandbox. Some people disagree, but sorry, it doesn't. You don't need it to be a sandbox game. I wish I had the link.
I mean, the ability to kill anyone at any time and steal everything they are carrying (that took them hours or days to collect) is mindless and completely infuriating. Especially when you can have a high level character killing newbs. People say that's "realistic", which is total BS. That's like an adult or hell, and MMA fighter going to the mall and beating up children, and taking their lunch money. At least in real life, if you did this, the people in the surrounding area, let alone the police, would beat you to a pulp, shoot you, and if you survied, you'd be in jail for years.
With no real repercussions for murdering every one you come across, and full loot, no restriction pvp, you basically have anarchy. Who wants to start a new character in a world like that? It's the same thing as me going shopping and worrying about every other shopper having a gun, shooting me, and taking my wallet. Or hell, like most open world pvp, they kill you just because they can, which is just griefing. No thanks.
Gamers aren't as stupid as the industry thinks they are. We don't need every game to be a cookie-cutter MMO. SSDD. I try each game and get bored of them in a few days, if I even last that long. The industry thinks these are the games we want, but obviously many of them start out as subs, or you need to buy the retail box, and then guess what happens? They lose players or they fail getting subs or box purchases and then go free to play. FAIL.
Why can't there be mobs that work together? How about traveling heards of animals or creatures? Ones where there are the alphas, then babies they protect, and so one. If you attack one, the rest try to protect each other and come after you. Or, some just run, just like packs of animals in say, Africa. You could have predetors, dossile animals, skittish ones, or even friendly ones you could herd or tame (like UO).
You could come across random camps or mobs or varying levels and power, that aren't always in the same place. So, you could find a orc encampment that they are actually building and fortifying. Depending when you find it, their contruction could have just begun, so you have a better chance of taking them out, or for an established fort, you'll need a large team of people to take it, and maybe even control it, take owner ship of it, etc. Maybe then other groups of intelligent mobs would try to take it from you and you would have to defend it.
Mobs you work together to raid towns is a GREAT idea, like in UO, but the AI could be drastically improved, so they would work together, and use tactics. Like, Warriors in the front, mages and archers in the back, etc.
What ever happened to dungeons?? I don't mean those cookie cutter instances. I mean even small caves, or winding dungeons where different creatures live, and they have many different levels, like say, blackburrow? in Everquest. Man, I so miss dungeons. Instead of poping mobs on top of you, maybe you could clear the entire dungeon, and new mobs would come in to defend it, you know, from the entrance, and try to take it back. What about treasure chests? Anyone remeber those? Hardly any games remember the joy of finding them in the old-school D&D rpgs I grew up playing.
Those are only a couple of my ideas. I have countless others.
I'm so "MEH!" with MMO's today. Their just so mindless, repetitive, and challenge free. It's like following a recipe to make food. Step 1->Step 2->Step 3. That's not a game.
The industry thinks that's what we want, but it isn't. Most of us what AI in the creatures we fight. Most of us want to explore. Most of use want variation. There's a reason all of these games go f2p so quickly. Why aren't they getting the hint?
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Originally posted by ShakyMo
Because there's only ever been one triple a sandbox - uo.
There's also only been two successful sandboxes, eve and uo.
Agreed. As to the first part of the question, they're not all cookie cutter.
You just reject anything that's not cookie cutter as not being an MMO. Funny how that works.
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Originally posted by HappyFunBall ... Gamers aren't as stupid as the industry thinks they are. ...
Sadly I disagree.
Originally posted by HappyFunBallThe industry thinks that's what we want, but it isn't. Most of us what AI in the creatures we fight. Most of us want to explore. Most of use want variation. There's a reason all of these games go f2p so quickly. Why aren't they getting the hint?
They did get the hint - at the cash register. Millions of people buy the games from the large publishers, millions. That's a pretty strong hint, isn'it?
I maintain this List of Sandbox MMORPGs. Please post or send PM for corrections and suggestions.
I somewhat suspect that you're more interested in ranting than in finding an AAA sandbox, but in case you're not, you might want to look into Uncharted Waters Online. It's made by Tecmo-Koei (actually Koei), which has shipped several dozen titles over the course of about 30 years, so it's not some obscure indie studio that doesn't know how to do much.
EVE Online is generally regarded as the most successful sandbox game. It was originally very much an indie game, though one could argue that the success of EVE made CCP into an AAA studio.
Both of those games have a very steep learning curve, though. If you quit within a few days thinking you've seen all that they have to offer, it only means that you're so confused that you don't even know what you don't know.
Originally posted by HappyFunBall
I'm so "MEH!" with MMO's today. Their just so mindless, repetitive, and challenge free.
So what's your proposed plan of action?
Yackyack, or learn to code?
Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.
You are preaching to the choir ,brother.
I'll support your post just because you and I are sitting in the same boat.
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To be fair, TERA's most redeeming qualities would have to be its non-target combat system and decent gamepad support. I've yet to see these implemented in another triple-A MMORPG title currently. Unfortunately, where TERA fails is as what you mentioned, OP, about its lackluster questing progression. It's more of the same as what we've seen in other MMORPGs right now. I guess that's just the nature of themepark-based games, but I feel like the developers could be far more creative with certain things. Oh well, they make the games, we do not, so there's not much we can say.
I'm still waiting for that "perfect" game right now. There are too many being made and none of them satisfy me still. Maybe my expectations have gone up so far high it's become unrealistic, but at the same time I can't help but think that game developers are also just being lazy, especially when they clearly know what's out there on the market right now... why make more of the same? How are you going to stand out by doing just that?!
WOW is the reason..
Game companies seen how much they made on that game and they all want some of the pie... Sadly and for some odd reason they cant get their heads around the fact that WOW is probally a one off and it already exists.. copying the game does not work as people will always like the origional one more..
So its not down to the fact that a Sandbox game wont sell well, we have seen a few do really well.. its the fact that game companeis think they can beat WOW at tis own game.. well its not gonna happen ever.
Tho over the next few years there are a few decent Sandbox MMOS on the horizion even some AAA ones so there is at least some hope.
It's because WoW sold millions of copies. Because of this, investors and developers think that they can just duplicate WoW and make the same kind of money.
It's been proven time and time again that the copy method does not work. It's like when Apple released the first iPod nano. It flew off the shelves. Several other entities released like-minded mp3 players,. Some did decent, but most ended up in the $5.00 Walmart bin.
That list is why. WoW has made more money than any other video game in history. Furthermore, there is no other MMO even in the top 10. It's all about the money.
It's like gold fever for devs and for their investors. They want to somehow replicate that magic $$.
Originally posted by revcasy
http://digitalbattle.com/2012/02/21/top-10-highest-grossing-video-games-ever/ That list is why. WoW has made more money than any other video game in history. Furthermore, there is no other MMO even in the top 10. It's all about the money. It's like gold fever for devs and for their investors. They want to somehow replicate that magic $$.
Exactly but they need to realise they cant do that by copying wow... good link btw Mario Kart Wii is a suprise thats for sure..
All the major sandbox games were released pre-WOW. Since wow everyone has been trying to copy their sucess. Has nothing to do with which style is better when you dont have an equal amount of each style to compare. The game devs of today are following the money and have dumbed our games down.
All the sandoxes of pre-wow were successful in terms of time, holding players, and game features. Any game that can last 5+ years, hold 50-500k people for a lengthy time, and able to add to their game over time is successful You do not need half the people in the world playing your game to be successful. 90% of the new aged games die within a few months to a year........ and these games are more successful than ones lasting 7-8-9 years?
With a huge amount of sandboxes coming AA and AAA, indie to top companies, i do hope to see changes and more companies dabble into sandbox feeling. Hopefuly this will stir competition in the industry and we can start seeing better games pumped out than the past 5 years.
Originally posted by LoverNoFighter
If they spent the money they invested in making SWTOR into keep on developing and "fixing" SWG pre cu,, it would have been a huge success.
Doubtful. Any game that spends $300 million before launching is a long-shot to bring in enough revenue to turn a profit anyway.
If SWTOR had been made on a $10 million budget and brought in half as much revenue as it did, that would have been a huge commercial success.
Originally posted by HappyFunBall
I've googled sandbox games, and tried all of them. Really, every one in the list. They are all TERRIBLE. The quality of all them was sub-bar, playabiliy sucked, and most were made of completel empty worlds where nothing was happening. Exploing just to find nothing is pointless.
I think this section is the problem. If our starting point is that we aren't enjoying any of the small budget versions of an idea, it's an uphill climb to convince an investor to fund a large budget version of the same idea.
I think the simple answer is due to multiplication.
AAA polished games take a lot work.
A good sandbox design also takes a lot of work.
Put the two together and your development time just went through the roof. So most companies end up choosing to simplify the design so that they can ge the product out the door sooner. and the simplification usually comes at the expensive of the sandbox elements if the game even had any in the first place.
This is also why, going the other direction, sandbox games tend to look a clunky compared to triple A themeparks.
I would say that only EVE Online could claim to be a triple A sandbox mmo and even there it has taken a decade of expansions to get to where it is. And even so, the systems are all rule generated copies of each other. Which illustrates one of the problems. If you go with a huge world, (or galaxy) you have to use some kind of rule based generation which tends to make things look repetitive. On the other hand if you make your world absolutely unique down to the placement of every stone and tree, you will run out of time and have to settle for a smaller world.
Simply put, a truly expansive world tends to work counter to a truly polished and detailed world. Not that it cant be done, but we need to develop better tools to pull it off and be willing to put more time into such a world's development. We will see if any of the forthcoming sandbox MMOs of the coming year will make strides in this direction.
All die, so die well.
I agree with overall point the original poster is making but I would just like to point out a few things.
1. It takes atleast 4 or 5 years to make a AAA game from start to finish. Realizing that you have to look at what the market was 5 years ago. In 2008 WoW was in its prime. Industry leaders such as Smedley declared that the Sandbox was dead. This was before the WoW clones failed so dev studios were still thinking they could replicate the WoW magic if they had just the right IP and better graphics. What happened afterwards was year after year the same tired theme park was recycled to the public and then failed miserably.
2. This left indie devs to pick up the scraps while poorly translated Korean grindfests with Pay to win cash shops took whatever was left. There were a few dimonds in the rough here but low advertizing and empty servers prevented any of these game from becoming major hits. EVE is about the only exception.
3. About halfway through this MMO darkage some of the dev companies realized maybe WoW was a fluke that could not be replicated and put new AAA Sandbox into development. As said earlier it takes years to make a AAA game. With that said Arch AGE looks really promising but there is no release date yet. Design of EQNext was changed to Sandbox but that too is at least a year down the road.
4. Hope is coming. The sandbox will indeed rise again. Just hold out another year or two and the MMO dark will be coming to an end. Try to make the best of it and have fun with what is available.
Originally posted by revcasy
http://digitalbattle.com/2012/02/21/top-10-highest-grossing-video-games-ever/ That list is why. WoW has made more money than any other video game in history. Furthermore, there is no other MMO even in the top 10. It's all about the money. It's like gold fever for devs and for their investors. They want to somehow replicate that magic $$.
Not true, it was officially stated that League of Legends is the number one most played, and the largest grossing pc game of all time.. It was official last year in PC mag. Its rediculous they release 1 champ for 10 dollars, and 32million+ people buy it.
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Massimo Pacetti Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC
Mr. Speaker, I would like to draw hon. members' attention to an amazing exploit.
As the saying goes, where there is a will, there is a way.
This past spring, a Montrealer named Gabriel Filippi mounted an expedition to conquer the world's highest mountain peak, Mount Everest, a climb of over 8,850 metres.
Not only did he achieve this remarkable feat, but he earned the title of Angel Gabriel by coming to the assistance of a Scottish climber who was suffering from pulmonary edema.
You will understand that this is a very rare accomplishment and one that is noteworthy regardless of the circumstances. That is why we must mention it here in the House today and congratulate Mr. Filippi for his bravery and persistence.
Mr. Filippi is an example of what a Canadian can accomplish with great determination.
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Johanne Deschamps Laurentides—Labelle, QC
Mr. Speaker, there is no denying, the young people of Laurentides—Labelle are making names for themselves in the sports world. This time, it is our hockey players.
Cassandra Poudrier, a female player only 12 years of age from Rivière-Rouge, has been chosen to play on the Europe 2006 team in the Christmas Cup tournament in Lausanne, Switzerland.
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Congratulations to you both. May your hard work continue to bring great results both now and later on in life.
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11:15 a.m.
Tony Martin Sault Ste. Marie, ON
Mr. Speaker, today I rise to share with the House and those watching the work that has gone on for quite some time, in one instance for over a year now, to have the immigration minister and the ministry recognize the legitimacy of two cases I hand delivered to him for minister's intervention this past week.
The minister has been crossing the country in the last couple of weeks making announcements about how he is going to make his ministry more efficient, more responsive and more generous to people trying to make Canada their home.
I need an intervention on compassionate grounds in one instance, in keeping with his recent announcement to normalize quickly people already within our borders who are making a very positive contribution without asking them to leave and to reapply.
I urge the minister to put action to his words. I have delivered many letters in both cases in support of these applications. I have put my own political reputation on the line. Will he do the right thing and give these families the best Christmas present ever?
Oral Questions
November 25th, 2005 / 11:15 a.m.
John Reynolds West Vancouver—Sunshine Coast, BC
Mr. Speaker, in its dying days, the Liberal government has resorted to trying to bribe Canadians with their own tax dollars on an unprecedented scale. According to media estimates, the Liberals have made over $20 billion in bogus pledges over the past two weeks, new spending that was not included in any of the three budgets that the minister brought in over the past year.
Is it not true that the Liberals have thrown away any fiscal plan they may have had in their desperate effort to distract voters from their decade of corruption?
Oral Questions
11:15 a.m.
Ralph Goodale Minister of Finance
Mr. Speaker, on fiscal matters, the hon. gentleman is flatly wrong, but let me deal with another issue.
I understand today that the opposition leader is travelling to British Columbia, where the Prime Minister is at the aboriginal summit. I hope the opposition leader will take the opportunity to apologize to the Prime Minister for the outrageous smears that he made in the House yesterday, and that members of his shadow cabinet repeated outside the House.
We have seen this kind of thing before from the Leader of the Opposition. This time I hope he shows a little dignity.
Oral Questions
11:15 a.m.
John Reynolds West Vancouver—Sunshine Coast, BC
Mr. Speaker, there is still $40 million missing. Nobody knows where it went. There is nothing to apologize for on this side of the House.
No one can keep track of how many billions of tax dollars the Liberals have made in bogus promises this week. According to the former senior finance official Don Drummond, "The fall update isn't even two weeks old, but already we need a scorecard". Liberal insider Warren Kinsella says that it is "like 100 monkeys on drugs, writing cheques".
How do the Liberals plan to pay for this reckless pre-election spending spree? Do they plan to raise taxes, run up deficits or just ignore their promises?
Oral Questions
11:15 a.m.
Ralph Goodale Minister of Finance
Mr. Speaker, the opposition members cannot get away with a diversionary tactic. Their leader in the House yesterday made absolutely unacceptable remarks. Those remarks cannot stand.
The Leader of the Opposition is on his way to British Columbia. He should take the opportunity to meet there with the Prime Minister, apologize for his remarks, retract the offensive comments and for once, depart from his pattern of meanness and show a little dignity and courage.
Oral Questions
11:15 a.m.
John Reynolds West Vancouver—Sunshine Coast, BC
Mr. Speaker, it is quite interesting to hear the gentleman and that party talk about meanness after what they have done to our country over the last 10 years. In less than 60 days, there will be a prime minister in the House who has the respect of all Canadians.
The Liberals continue to threaten to punish Canadians if there is an election soon. They threaten to withhold benefits from seniors and soldiers if there is an election. Now the member for Vancouver Centre is claiming that the 2010 winter Olympics will be jeopardized if Canadians go to the polls. That makes as much sense as their previous accusations that British Columbians were burning crosses on their lawns.
Why do the Liberals not stop trying--
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11:20 a.m.
The Deputy Speaker
The hon. Minister of Finance.
Oral Questions
11:20 a.m.
Ralph Goodale Minister of Finance
Mr. Speaker, it is clear that the opposition does not intend to retract, so let me just deal with the record over the last 10 years.
Under Conservatives, the federal debt was very nearly 70% of GDP. Today it is less than 40%. Under the Conservatives, our foreign debt was 43%. Today it is 15%. Under the Conservatives, debt servicing costs were 38%. Today they are 17%. Under the Conservatives, unemployment was 11.2%. Today it is less than 7%.
Income Trusts
Oral Questions
11:20 a.m.
Charlie Penson Peace River, AB
Mr. Speaker, on Wednesday, after months of dithering and indecision, the finance minister signed on to the Conservative Party plan to leave income trusts alone and instead cut the double taxation on dividends. However, on the same day, the parliamentary secretary was on national television telling Canadians that the Liberals had a new plan to slap a new tax on income trusts.
Why does the government continue to threaten seniors and Canadians saving for retirement with a new tax on income trusts after the election?
Income Trusts
Oral Questions
11:20 a.m.
Ralph Goodale Minister of Finance
Mr. Speaker, it is amazing that everybody in the country can get it except those guys across the way.
The head of the Yellow Pages income trust has said that what we did this week showed managerial courage. Ontario Teachers' Pension Plan said, " this will go a long way toward eliminating the current arbitrage among businesses. The minister and his advisers appear to have listened to the concerns of the pension community". BMO Financial Group said, "By our yardstick, the minister of finance has come to the best public policy outcome, and for that he deserves credit".
Income Trusts
Oral Questions
11:20 a.m.
Charlie Penson Peace River, AB
Mr. Speaker, a deathbed conversion, but it will still not give seniors back all the money they lost in their income trusts as a result of the Minister of Finance.
The parliamentary secretary was absolutely clear. He said, "The trusts will be taxed going out or starting, I think, around 2007". When will the minister reveal his hidden agenda and admit that the Liberals are on the same track? If they are re-elected, seniors and Canadians saving for retirement will be subjected to a new tax on their income trusts in the future.
Income Trusts
Oral Questions
11:20 a.m.
Ralph Goodale Minister of Finance
Mr. Speaker, wrong, wrong and wrong. The opposition clearly is trying to put the country on the road to an election, but I wonder why that party always insists on the low road to anywhere.
The Canadian Association of Income Funds said, "We believe the government's decision is very positive." The Canadian Chamber of Commerce said, "...the government recognized that there are inequities in the tax system. They're going after the right target here". The Canadian Tax Foundation said, "It's good news for investors, and it's good news for people who raise capital in the market".
If everybody else can get it, why can that party not get it?
Economic Statement
Oral Questions
11:20 a.m.
Gilles Duceppe Laurier, QC
Mr. Speaker, this past May, Ontario announced an agreement with Ottawa on climate change, totalling $538 million. Imagine our surprise to read in the Minister of Finance's economic statement that the amount Ontario will be receiving from Ottawa is, instead, $738 million.
I would like to know whether the figure is $738 million or the $538 million as announced. Has a $200 million error slipped in somewhere, somehow?


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By MARK H. WILLIAMSTaxpayer-Castle Dale
Dear Editor:
There should be no reason that the people of Emery County should have anything to "heal" with the state as a commissioner said in the report of last commission meeting in the Emery County Progress, Sept. 23. Also quoting from the newspaper - "The commission determined that for the sake of future relations with the state, that they should step up and pay for it."
Every taxpayer in Emery County should demand an explanation from our county commissioners for making what appears to amount to a $25,000 gift to a Harvard professor, Keith Allred through Dynamic Feedback at last commission meeting. The money was approved in response to a "request" from the state to help pay the $97,733.81 bill for trying to develop an opinion poll on the proposed San Rafael National Monument, a poll that never was taken. If the funds were not received, the contract states that "it is understood by both parties that this agreement is null and void."
The agreement, signed on Jan. 21, 2003 by the county to pay this sum to Dynamic Feedback was contingent on Emery County receiving at least $97,733.81 from the State of Utah. As of this date they have not received any of these funds. This agreement was signed even after the voters of Emery County voted against the San Rafael National Monument Proposal in the November 2002 election.
It appears that there was another contract, between the federal government, namely the Department of the Interior, and the state of Utah that never included Emery County as a monetary contributor to the expenses of the services.
This $25,000 "gift" could have been better spent right here in the county. What about community programs? What about GPS surveying for the RS-2477 right of ways and trails? What about expenses left from the Green River Annexation? I'm sure there are many other valid requests that could have been considered.
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Classes resumed Wednesday at Lone Star Community College in Cypress, Texas following the stabbing attack that left 14 people injured. Students shared eyewitness accounts of the gruesome sequence of events that riveted the college campus. (April 10) AP
The suspect in a slashing-spree at Lone Star College near Houston tells investigators he has fantasized for years about stabbing someone to death.
A 20-year-old student charged in a stabbing spree at a Houston-area community college that left 14 people injured was undergoing a psychiatric evaluation on Wednesday.
Dylan Andrew Quick is charged with three counts of aggravated assault for Tuesday's random stabbings on the Lone Star College-CyFair campus in Cypress, Texas, according to the Harris County Sheriff's Office.
A courtroom appearance set for Wednesday was postponed until Thursday. The psychiatric evaluation began Wednesday, the Harris County District Attorney's Office told CNN.
Prosecutors presented their case at a probable cause court overnight.
"The defendant gave a videotaped confession, admitting he stabbed complainants multiple times with an X-Acto knife because of his fantasy to kill people," a prosecutor told the court, KHOU-TV reported.
Officials said 12 victims were rushed to area hospitals while two people declined treatment. The most seriously wounded had stab wounds to the neck and face. Six people were hospitalized at Memorial Hermann Texas Trauma Institute, two in critical condition.
A hospital spokesperson said Wednesday that one of the six had been discharged and the five remaining were now all listed in good condition. The other hospitalized victims had minor injuries and were treated at North Cypress Medical Center.
The prosecutor at the probable cause court noted that a "bloody knife tip" had been removed from the chest of one of the victims.
Quick, who was tackled and subdued by fellow students during the ordeal, told investigators that he had fantasized since elementary school of stabbing someone to death. He also said he had planned Tuesday's attacks for some time.
Classes resumed at the community college on Wednesday.
In January, two people were shot at Lone Star College's North Harris campus. The CyFair campus is located in Cypress, about 25 miles northwest of downtown Houston.
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One of the Harbaugh brothers delivered a frustrated shove to a photographer while jogging to midfield at the conclusion of Super Bowl XLVII and it wasn't the one you'd expect.
While on his way to shake hands with his brother after the Baltimore Ravens 34-31 win over the San Francisco 49ers, victorious coach John Harbaugh was caught by CBS cameras giving a quick push to a photographer who stuck a camera lens in his face.
John was running to midfield and delivered a right hand to the lens of the nearby photographer. The camera was close to John, but didn't seem any more invasive than the dozens of others that quickly encircled him before the postgame handshake.
If there were a Harbaugh brother who would give an annoyed shove, Jim would have been the more likely candidate. His team had just lost, moments after he was enraged by a non-call in the end zone.
John Harbaugh said the bittersweet postgame meeting with his brother was "the hardest thing I've ever experienced." With those words, his momentary outburst is understandable.
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WINNIPEG, MB - Entering the new 2013-2016 quadrennial, the senior women's national team staff has been busy planning for their upcoming 2013 season, building on last year and the squad that was chosen for the 2012 Pan Am Cup. To kick off the season there there will once again be an Open Selection Camp taking place in Winnipeg at the University of Manitoba from April 29-May 2. This camp will be used to select an extended roster of 18-22 athletes for the women's Senior A Team, as there will not be a separate Senior B Team this summer. For the Universiade Games in Kazan, Russia in July, eligible athletes from the Senior A Team roster will comprise the team that will represent Canada in this event.
A major highlight of the summer will be the reimplementation of the Canada Cup. Team Canada is planning to host three other national teams in a four-team exhibition competition in later August in Winnipeg to help prepare for the NORCECA Continental Championship the following month in the USA.
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40 Years Ago: Sweet Release 'Sweet Fanny Adams'
After their 1971 debut album failed to chart, Sweet managed to pull off an impressive run of 11 U.K. Top 40 hits in a row. By April 1974, the stage was set for their second album, 'Sweet Fanny Adams,' which would be a massive hit worldwide, though it would take on a different shape by the time it — or more to the point, its songs — was released in the United States.
The roots of Sweet date back to the post-Beatles Beat boom with a variety of Mod-based bands like the Troop and Wainwright's Gentlemen. A few years later, in 1968, the Sweetshop was formed. Heavy on the bubblegum side of things, they released a couple of singles that went nowhere. By 1971, they changed their name to simply Sweet, and their fortunes began to change as well.
"'Sweet Fanny Adams' is generally regarded among Sweet cognoscenti as the first 'real' album," guitarist Andy Scott said in the liner notes to the 2004 remastered CD. "In the grand scheme of things, this is the band at its finest – full of energy, humor and social statement of the era."
The album kicks off with the roof raising 'Set Me Free' which displays the power and punch the band had. Yes, they had an incredible knack for glittery bubblegum singles like 'Little Willy' and 'Wig Wam Bam,' but at their core, they were a hard-rocking band. 'Set Me Free' makes that very clear. Powerhouse drumming by Mick Tucker, the thumping bass of Steve Priest, and the razor sharp guitars of Andy Scott made for glam gold, with the cherry on top the being the dynamic vocals of one Brian Connolly.
'Heartbreak Today' is a great riff-rocker that chugs along in, what might be called a traditional glam-styled stomp. The signature vocal stylings — the layered harmonies and theatrical delivery that Queen would soon adopt — are proudly on display here. 'No You Don't is another powerhouse rocker. The plaintive vocal is awash with thundering drums and heavy guitars to make it one of many highlights on the LP. The song was, like many of the Sweet's hits, written by the dynamic duo of Nicky Chinn and Mike Chapman, who were as crucial to the U.K. glam sound and style as any given band, contributing songs and production to the likes of Sweet, Mud, and Suzi Quatro among others. 'No You Don't' was later covered by Pat Benatar on her debut album, 'In the Heat of the Night.'
'Rebel Rouser' is one in a long line of ultra-catchy ravers that, surprisingly, was never released as a single. It takes its title from a Duane Eddy song, and cops a riff from Eddie Cochran's 'Something Else' while adding a nice dose of glitter to it. A cover of the Joey Dee & the Starlighters 1961 hit 'Peppermint Twist' rounds out Side One and makes perfect sense in the context as they rock it up Sweet-style. So much of the U.K. glam style was tied up in the sounds of early rock and roll.
Side Two announces itself with the powerful quasi-title song, 'Sweet F.A.,' which, as originally coined, stands for 'Fanny Adams,' but the modern connotation is 'f— all.' Taking off with almost Led Zeppelin-styled riffing, Sweet forge full steam ahead for over six minutes on this hard rocking gem. Mick Tucker, certainly one of the best drummers of the era that never got his due. shines here. 'Restless' is a slinky groover that evokes aspects of Marc Bolan while maintaining their own identity. 'Into The Night' is a somewhat generic, heavy riff rocker, and possibly the album's weakest moment as the song lacks the sharp personality of the rest of the album.
Things rebound quickly with the album closer, 'AC-DC.' Another Chinn & Chapman song, this one tells the tale of a man's frustration with his very popular bisexual girlfriend. 'AC-DC, she got some other woman as well as me" sings Connolly. The song was covered, note-perfect, by Joan Jett on her 2006 album 'Sinner.'
The album was never released in America, but half of the songs would be matched up with various singles, including the classics 'Ballroom Blitz' and 'Fox On The Run,' to make up the U.S. version of 'Desolation Boulevard, thus making it a different animal from the British 'Desolation Boulevard.' Anyway you slice it, Sweet made some tremendous records and this is one of their very best.


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Leafs Love Ron Wilson, Still Lose Game
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There's a saying in Spanish that I think describes the game well: "jugaron como nunca, perdieron como siempre"* which loosely translates to "the Hawks may stink right now and be without Jonathan Toews but Patrick Kane and Marian Hossa are pretty good and also the Leafs are not good". The loss has left the Buffalo "$80M salary expense" Sabres and the Tampa Bay "Hilarious Goaltending" Lightning 1 point back of the Leafs with each having a game in hand on the Heroes. The Carolina "Non-Hockey Market" Hurricanes and the New York "Rebuilding Forever" Islanders are only four points back with a game in hand. In fact, the Leafs are about one bad week from being in a position to draft in the top five. So it's not all bad.
There was a little bit of hope for the Leafs because the Chicago Blackhawks have also been awful in February. Just kidding, if you had hope for this game then you didn't read Steve Burtch's expected win percentages post. Things are likely not getting better but at the end of the day that might turn out okay. It would be like missing your flight because you got in a car crash and broke both of your legs but then finding out that your plane crashed. Feel free to fit that analogy around the current situation however you want.
Fellow Kopite Sam Fels of Second City Hockey offers his take:
Only the Hawks in this current state could score five goals, get a win they absolutely have to have, and I don't feel any better when I walk out of the UC. Whatever, two points, right?
To be fair, I thought the Hawks were the better team by some margin in the first two periods, but every chance the Leafs had went in. Some defensive goofiness, a penalty kill that got wonky again, and a bouncing puck combined with a flopping goalie, and there the Hawks were down 3-1.
That said, I guess there's a certain amount of rocks to not panic and come back from that and actually make getting to the lead look rather routine. Though that could have something to do with the wide open spaces the Leafs leave for you to sing you song in.
Slaky from the only other Hawks blog worth reading** HockeeNight:
This one is going to have to be short and sour given the Hockeenight's staff's apparent penchant for
week long heroin bingesbeing busy with work and family. The Blackhawks and Leafs came into tonight's game as the two worst teams in the league since the month of February began. At least I'm pretty sure I read that somewhere tonight. With both fan bases expecting the worst - that's exactly what they got.
This game was dreadful from the word go. There was no structure, no goaltending and no real plan by either team except to see who could fill up their collective hockey shorts with less shit. Sure enough the Leafs had a metric unit's shit more than the Hawks as the Men in White (a rare night for the home whites) came away with a one goal win.
For a nice change of pace, the Leafs jumped out to a 3-1 lead which probably surprised Ron Wilson more than it did Leafs fans because since we knew the team would lose we assumed that it was about time that the Leafs found a different script from "go down 2-0 in 45 seconds, flail about for 59 minutes". I then joked that I wonder which members of the Toronto media which had spent the day talking about how the Leafs had clearly given up on Ron Wilson would then change their mind and say that a possible win was evidence that they were playing for their embattled coach. Of course, as soon as I conceived of the thought the Hawks scored to make it 3-2 which I immediately noted made my question moot.
However, it didn`t stop actual members of the media from suggesting it. Bruce Arthur must have been reading my mind because he did it sarcastically (I hope) almost simultaneously. Later on, the TSN panel, led by Bob McKenzie expressed the same thoughts. And the piece de resistance:
One of my great complaints of the Toronto media (and really the entire media) does line up with Burke and Wilson: they don't care about Xs and Os. At no point this year have the majority presented an in-depth look at why the Leafs have been performing the way they have. They love their narratives. So long as the narrative isn't that the media has an adverse affect. Oh, no. Burke goes on the radio and calls them dirtbags and they proceed to reel off a week's worth of "FIRE EVERYTHING" articles. Burke suggests that human players have human reactions to the constant talk of being traded and we get a few days of "ho ho ho looks like this loss can be chalked up to pressure #LOL" on Twitter. And now, rather than examine what Ron Wilson's problems are they reel from "he's a jerk so the players suddenly quit after killing themselves to get into playoff position" to "wait! turns out they love him!"
*It actually means that they played like never before (only compared to their recent play) and lost like always (factually true)
** Full disclosure: I've only read two Hawks blogs but I do know that Chris Block is a penisloaf.
wow, the leafs are now 6 games under the real .500. that will be tough to make up. i guess, realistically, if you look at it, the leafs are trying to win consistently with two pretty soft scoring wingers centered by basically average playmaking centers, inconsistent secondary scoring, average to below average goaltending and a blue line that despite looking good on paper, can't seem to play as a cohesive unit. doesn't seem like a very good recipe. i know people will want to say lupul is a power guy, but get serious, and for as high end a scorer kessel is, he really doesn't seem to match up consistently with the other teams best players. it may have been a better move for burke to wait a couple years and draft a dominant center that will drive the play for the next 15-20 years. man, that seguin/kessel deal is still a real headscratcher. oh well, at least the rebuild got accelerated.
March 01 2012, 10:16AM
Is "Hosse" the spanish spelling of Hossa?
Also, looking forward to the "Kessel pads his stats with points when the game is out of reach" stories. Except he is responsible for the only point the Leafs have got in the last 10 games or whatever it is. He's not quitting on anyone.
The leafs are playing to their abilities. They are just a bad team. One of the worst in the league. Wilson was coaching the hell out of them earlier in the season and had them playing way over their heads.
Let's face it. The Leafs suck! Oilers are 29th place team but are more exciting team and have a better future. Kessel deal for Seguin in hindsight up to this point has been good for both teams. Leafs need more than a sieve in net. Maybe dress two goalies and only one defense the rest of the way to see if you get into playoffs.


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Skip to comments.Federal report: Warming is changing US daily life
Posted on 01/11/2013 2:33:21 PM PST by NormsRevenge
WASHINGTON (AP) A massive new federal scientific report says global warming is already changing America from sea to rising sea and how Americans live.
The government issued Friday a 1,146-page draft report that details in dozens of ways how climate change is already disrupting the health, homes and other facets of daily American life. It warns that those disruptions will increase in the future.
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Paging Mr. FReeze.. Mr. FReeze. FRosty white courtesy phone Line #1, Please.
When Galaxies Collide.. Stuff Happens.
btw,, we've been in a nice extended cool streak here,, but who am I to complain when Europe is sunbathing. :-"
Imagine how bad it'll get when temperatures actually start going up.
It's affecting my daily life. Except it isn't.
Tell me about it.
The government has taken my money to give to "Green" Progressives to disrupt my health and slash the value of my home by building 450 foot whirling middle fingers all over the countryside of the Red States of America to provide us with less than 3% of our electricity needs.
And they plan on doing more of it
Warmer weather would be great for me... Bring it on. Then I won't have to go to Florida it the winter.
ap - Julie Williams 1/11/13
Golden to frozen, California faces epic cold snap
It's been close to frozen here .. the fruit trees love it,, the homeless are getting new blankets,, the state has projected a "surplus" this year.
It just goes to show you how worthless "Massive Government Studies" are when it comes to actual findings. No raise in Temps for 16 years, but the "Massive Government Study" proved it anyway. And, its only a draft! We can spend many Millions more paying for the "Final" worthless politicaly correct drivel.
Obviously its just another crony scam by the Congressional Mafia to "share the wealth" with their buddies.
Forecast for Death Valley temperature for instance, is FREEZING (30F to 32F) this weeekend.
See it at ...
Here in Northern Ohio, temps in the 60s for the next couple days. Back to 30s on Monday. I loved it! No coat today! About 12 years ago, I painted my house during the first two weeks of December. We'd already had a good snowfall in November that year. Just weather! Sometimes it blows from the south, sometimes from Canada. Lake Effect snow. Argh!
If they had any flare for poetic irony, they would have made it the same amount of pages as the obamacare monstrosity.
I've got a bone to pick. It's supposed to be in the 30's and 40's this weekend here in Southern Cal. What's up. My bronze is fading. I might (that's might) have to, um. What do you do. Oh yeah. What ever I want.
Global temperatures have not risen for 15 years, that's a cold, hard fact admitted by even the most ardent global warming enthusiasts (the honest ones at least). So, if our behavior is changing, then something else must be doing the deed. Wonder what that could be? My nomination would be blathering idiots and global warming zealots screaming that the sky is falling.
That's in the valley itself, below sea level. In some parts of Death Valley Nat'l Park it is hovering around zero degrees overnight. And just 40 miles up the road from the northern boundary of the park, it recently hit -27 below.
I live in San Diego within sight of the ocean. It doesn't seem to be rising, and we have a frost warning for tonight
In 1973 the experts said a new ice age was coming and we would all freeze to death and then the killer bees were coming from Mexico to sting us all to death and on and on the buls__t goes.Meanwhile Al (I am not a homo) Gore drives his Lincoln SUV to the airport to board his private jet to fly somewhere to give a speech about how jets and SUV's are causing global warming.Meanwhile someone else is warming Tipper.And on it goes.I'm 71-years-old and it makes me think of a line from an old song. "It's A Barnum And Bailey World,Just As Phoney As It Can Be".
If global warming is really causing the planet to heat up, why are people putting jalapenos in every damn thing they eat these days?
Well it is changing my life. I had to scrape Ice off my windshield this morning here in Southern California.
Yeah, well, a budget is required by law, too.
The greatest way Global Warming is changing the way of life in America, is that it is removing any trust the people have in their government. Global warming has ceased for the past 15 years. So we now have the government trying to get people to prepare for warming, while a historic period of Cold Arctic Blasts will be sweeping across the US the next few weeks. Way to go Uncle Sammy. Just when we thought you could not make the situation any worse then you already have.
coomunist propaganda... I hope that all of you progressives turn into frozen traitor-sicles in this latest cold weather that is dropping records in may parts of the country.
And then there's this.
Jan. 8, 2013: In the galactic scheme of things, the Sun is a remarkably constant star. While some stars exhibit dramatic pulsations, wildly yo-yoing in size and brightness, and sometimes even exploding, the luminosity of our own sun varies a measly 0.1% over the course of the 11-year solar cycle.
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No single researcher has the full range of knowledge required to solve the problem. To make progress, the NRC had to assemble dozens of experts from many fields at a single workshop. The report summarizes their combined efforts to frame the problem in a truly multi-disciplinary context.........
41 degrees last night in Clairemont. Supposed to be colder tonight. Lots of black ice this morning east of El Cajon.
More comedy.
Yep...I was out yesterday spraying weed killer on broadleaf weeds and swatting at bugs (NC)...in the middle of January.
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Also: Margaret Devine and Thomas William Sullivan, Home Children
Thomas Lanctot [here spelled Langtoe] is found in the household of Thomas Burke and Mary Ann Lahey in the 1901 Canadian census (Ontario, Carleton, March, p. 2, family no. 15). He is listed as "Adopted," with racial/tribal origin French, and birthplace "O u" (Ontario urban, as distinct from "O r," Ontario rural). His age is given as 15, with year of birth 1885 and day and month of birth unknown.
About a year earlier, on 14 June 1900, Thomas Lanctot had made his Confirmation at St. Isidore (South March), with his age given as 14 and his parents listed as "Thomas Burke, Adopter" and "Mary Ann Lahey, Adoptress" (Click thumbnail preview [right] to see larger image). Also confirmed at St. Isidore on 14 June 1900 was Margaret Devine, age 11, whose parents were also listed as "Thomas Burke, Adopter" and "Mary Ann Lahey, Adoptress."1
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In Defense of Bailouts
Adam J. Levitin
Georgetown University Law Center
January 15, 2010
Georgetown Law Journal, Vol. 99, p. 435, 2011
Georgetown Law and Economics Research Paper No. 10-08
Georgetown Public Law and Legal Theory Research Paper No. 10-19
Systemic risk - the possibility that an individual firm's failure will result in broad damages to the economy as a whole - is the epitome of financial crisis. Bailouts of troubled firms have long been the standard response to systemic risk. Yet, bailouts suffer from problems of political legitimacy.
Bankruptcy is often presented as more legitimate alternative to bailouts because its loss allocation system is preset and determined in the abstract. This Article argues that the choice between bailouts and bankruptcy is illusory. Bailouts and bankruptcy are not alternative choices, but an integrated system; any preset resolution system will be abandoned for a bailout if it would produce socially unacceptable loss allocations. Therefore, bailouts' political legitimacy is critical.
Accordingly, the Article proposes a framework for analyzing bailouts' legitimacy. It identifies and explores two fundamental questions involved in all bailouts. First, should bailouts be done ad hoc through Congress or should bailout authority be institutionalized in an agency? And second, should creditors of bailed out firms be forced to accept less than full payment (or take a "haircut") as part of the bailout? Ensuring accountability and fairness in resolving these issues is essential for bailouts' political legitimacy and ultimate efficacy.
Number of Pages in PDF File: 80
Keywords: bailout, systemic risk, contagion, common shock, resolution authority, living will, bankruptcy, haircut, GM, AIG
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December 26 2008 02:42PM
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It's the first time since 1971 that all of Canada is experiencing a white Christmas. But really, who cares? The Sedin Sisters are hosting our Brutish and Mighty Oil tonight. Here's Gregor's report on the lines for tonight. -- bingofuel
Line-ups... Hemsky – Horcoff – Penner Nilsson/Moreau – Cogliano – Pouliot Reddox – Gagner – Cole Strudwick – Brodziak – Stortini
Moreau skated at the morning skate and will be a game time decision. If he can't go then Nilsson will draw in. If he does, Nilsson will be eating popcorn in the pressbox.
I'm not getting why Reddox over Nilsson.
Nilsson/Gagner/Cole might be a dynamite line.
December 26 2008, 03:04PM
@ David S
I couldn't agree more. Makes waaaaaayyy more sense. But what do we know?
December 26 2008, 03:21PM
*JSBM will be very intoxicated during the JL meeting*
*JSBM will also be cheering on the World Juniors*
December 26 2008, 04:22PM
Wanye Gretz will be asking his parents to end Christmas Dinner half an hour after it begins so that he can watch the Oilers.
It's basically like every other Christmas we have had in the Gretz family to date.
Canada and the Mighty OIL win big!!! I win very drunk!!!!
December 26 2008, 05:15PM
I am curious if some of the oilers with roots in Ontario made it back to Edmonton for the charter flight to YVR - otherwise called the dead zone - as Westjet refused to fly into Vancouver over the holidays as the airport did not have enough deicing equipment - MacT is at fault for running a practise the next morning (DEC 23) instead of letting the players take the red eye to YYZ after the marginal win over the bankrupt YOTES...... this will be one jet lagged tired team - expect a zombie effort due to this schedule quirk in YVR. Next time give the players 12 more hours off or invite the families to Edmonton...this is going to be a turkey disaster - MACT got coal this Christmas - not a happy holiday when your best friend is thinking about cutting you loose sooner or later.
December 26 2008, 05:25PM
Well I hope the boys can tackle this adversity
Whoever wrote the "Douchebags and newspapers, together at last" cutline hasn't been paying attention. There's a ho-hum case of dog bites man if ever there was one.
December 26 2008, 06:15PM
*baggedmilk is drunk and watching world juniors*
Beauty goal by Tavares with the assist to Eberle.
December 26 2008, 07:21PM
Deep Oil - seriously man. If there was an eclipse, you'd find a way to turn it into another reason to "fire MacT". The reasons for the early morning practice on Dec 23 were well documented and sounded pretty logical to me.
If you're going to rag on the team, at least try to find something that doesn't make you look like a complete tool in the process.
@ David S: Hey as long as he can stay out of the remand tonite it's a bonus...at least until he becomes incoherant...er
December 26 2008, 07:35PM
@ RobinB: You're reading into a subtext that doesn't exist.
The Sedins are douchebags (at least citizens of the OilersNation must think so). They're each holding newspapers. The "together at last" is a hat-tip to the Simpsons' where Homer was eating a bag of "Nuts 'n Gum," the catch-phrase of which was "together at last."
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
December 26 2008, 08:01PM
The outside of GM Place looks alot like Edmonton. Bah-hahaha!
December 26 2008, 08:21PM
ok time to throw so people under the bus...Gagner and horcoff. Maybe both of those guys for kovalchuk???
December 26 2008, 08:50PM
Hey "bag me", you out there
December 26 2008, 08:50PM
Well we're not losing.
December 26 2008, 08:51PM
Is Horcoff completely retarded? Can he make a pass or play or shot?
I only caught the end of the first, how are we looking? The PK looked decent.
December 26 2008, 08:52PM
But you know who's awesome? JORDAN EBERLE!!!
December 26 2008, 08:53PM
We are also missing a
December 26 2008, 08:56PM
@ freeze:
We're doing alright, Horcoff is handling the puck like its a live weasel, Nilsson has been on 3 different lines already.
But Weve been solid on the back end.
The thing I am noticing is that the Oilers has a more aggressive fore check going. Sending two players. This could be because we're tied and not losing and I am so used to seeing us behind by two goals after one.
December 26 2008, 09:09PM
POOOOOO! Wow. who would have thought that the kid who always was a goal scorer wasn't a third line grinder but an offensive player?
December 26 2008, 09:15PM
POWERPLAY GOAL...With a Powerplay to go....NICE!
December 26 2008, 09:16PM
@ Fiveandagame: That was a nice play by Hemmer wasn't it 5&aG.
December 26 2008, 09:16PM
@ Fiveandagame: It sure was Five, it sure was.
May I also say that I find your insights into the Oilers both accurate and entertaining.
December 26 2008, 09:17PM
@ Fiveandagame:
Well thank you 5&aG you are also insightful and witty.
December 26 2008, 09:20PM
Well I am enjoying this game anyway.
December 26 2008, 09:23PM
Penner is fricken AWESOME! PLaying like he's worth every penny.
December 26 2008, 09:24PM
Even Staios is hitting and blocking shots.
December 26 2008, 09:25PM
The team is playing a very solid second period. Weird.. We are usually sucking like a dyson at this point in the game.
December 26 2008, 09:28PM
I wondering if JS and BM are so Crunk that they have forgotten how to type....
I like it when We're on the powerplay.
December 26 2008, 09:28PM
December 26 2008, 09:29PM
time to make Burrows PAY!!!
December 26 2008, 09:29PM
(in honor of Towel Boy)
December 26 2008, 09:30PM
December 26 2008, 09:30PM
Is Santa granting wishes!?!?
Nice PP!
December 26 2008, 09:30PM
December 26 2008, 09:31PM
FREEZE YOU TOO.....wow prayers have been answered!
December 26 2008, 09:31PM
Who should I say needs to pay next????
December 26 2008, 09:32PM
I've got to get my laptop back, this running back and forth is retarded
December 26 2008, 09:32PM
@ ramped up: Kesler! I hate that guy
December 26 2008, 09:34PM
*cringes at Staios*
December 26 2008, 09:36PM
I hate it when they give up goals late in the period.
I hope we don't sit back too much. We'd be better to keep some pressure on their D.
December 26 2008, 09:44PM
We need to make a good showing here Justice League. Men are down, committed to festive holiday dinners that wives and girlfriends schedule when men get their holidays.
We need to be vulgar loud and make fun of players for reasons completely unrelated to the game of hockey.
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