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Skip to comments.Is the dollar beginning it's decline?
Posted on 05/04/2009 1:13:38 PM PDT by mikelets456
Is this the VERY beginning of the downward spiral of our currency? I am beginning to notice that the Euro and Pound are going up daily. The Euro was at 1.23 now at 1.35 and the Pound previously 1.36 to 1.50...is this the beginning of inflation? Oil rising as well...this could be the tip of the "turd" ready to erupt. Hey, printing all that $$$ will eventually have consequences, there really is no escape from that. Never in the history of man kind has "throwing money" at a crisis helped...NEVER!
...Bob Brinker doesn't think so, for what it's worth.
Bob Brinker voted for Obama
Aren't they spending like drunken Obamites over there too? Question is, who is going to win the race?
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As are almost every commodity.
A bet on the dollar is a bet on Obama.
Right now he is still fairly popular. Watch what happens to the dollar if he becomes unpopular.
Natural gas bottomed last Thursday and it's current trajectory is sharply vertical. See UNG (NYSE) up 12.75% in three trading days. Yippee!
Wait a minute......are you saying that if I owe a whole bunch of money, that I can't pay back, borrowing more won't help? I'll be darned. I didn't know that.
"Beginning" its decline????
Is the Pope Catholic?
Was the Prophet Mohammad a child molester?
Is Obama a sneaky little bitch?
.....Yes, Yes, Yes and Yes. Of course the dollar is declining.
By removing all those dollars from the pool, you'll make the remaining dollars more valuable.
If this doesn't bring up the value enough, then just print another few trillion and burn them.
It's foolproof.
Well, here's a chart. The dollar did fairly well for a while, because other countries were having even worse economic problems. But Obama has been spending money like there's no tomorrow, so that will probably shift.
Peter Grandich, who has a pretty good forecast record, has come out recently with a VERY BEARISH report on the dollar. I can't link to it here, but here's an earlier report of his:
Almost time to max out the credit cards ;)
I'd like to know why the stock market is doing so well.. suspicious.
The dollar has been falling occasionally without much interruption since 1973. But it isn't going to zero. The financial crisis consisted (and consists) in an epic crowd of credulous fools all betting that it would at once, all being wrong.
If the dollar in the future were going to be worth zero, borrowing dollars to buy any real asset in existence would be an automatic win. Everybody tried that, and they can't pay back the dollars, because those dollars are not worth zero, but oh about 3-4 times as much as the reckless bettors expected (in oil, in houses, in every industrial commodity you can name...).
Central banks that tighten enough to break bubbles even if it wipes out $10 trillion in wealth do not see repudiation of their currencies. It is all reckless slander and always was. Stop regurgitating it, already.
I find it very hard to believe that my right wing bias is blinding me to Obama's brilliance. Something is not making sense.
The market always moves so as to inconvenience the greatest crowd of fools. Always.
Yeah, I posted that somewhere else...How the heck can the market be going through the roof with all this "Anti-business, Government control and massive spending..."!
it's all a mirage and will disappear very soon!
And I told you that conservatives predicting the end of the world instead would look like fools, and that the Dems would stand there and take credit for the natural recuperative powers of capitalism and the technocratic strength of the Fed and the whole system, all while slander those who actually run it.
And you-lot were played like a violin...
Nothing makes sense anymore.. and Im sure that is the way they like it. We are being lead to a cliff..
All the metals were up today, energy was up, the Euro and the Sterling were both up. So maybe.
In the short term you're probably right. In the long term, not so much.
the UK Currency is going down as well. Their problem is worst than the US at moment. plus they dont have the advantage of having their currency as the reserve currency.
I held tight when it was all going into the crapper.. Just seems like the same careless money lending is happening again.. It won't end well this time, either.
Obama may well screw up foreign policy stuff enough to let Iran get nuclear weapons, and five or ten years from now a million or more people may fry in consequence. He can be a disaster of that sort. But capitalism isn't going to roll over and die because he isn't as conservative as the Cato institute, and betting the movement on that happening was and always will be, dumb as rocks.
Don't make the Dem mistake of betting against America... and don't conceed to Dems, victory if American succeeds. America will succeed, small thanks to them, and never let the people forget it.
Over half of this country will passively watch as Obama plays Hugo Chavez II. If nothing is done, it won't be business cycles as usual.
It may have. I've bet on the dollar's demise personally.
Of course, it may go back and forth over the next couple of years, but the trajectory is down. Below 80, I'd get out completely.
Inflation is dead, kid. D E A D.
They've been searching for inflation since 1989 in Japan...can't find it.
Won't find it here for years, either. Maybe longer.
You'll see lots of people continuously promising you that "it's just around the corner."
They're clueless.
Inflation isn't even close.
I used to listen to Bob Brinker. Maybe it was me, but it seemed he talked alot but never said anything.
That's a good thought. The Dems didn't credit Reagan/Bush Sr. for the Cold War ending on their watch or feel any compulsion to reelect Bush Sr. as a result, and we don't have to credit the Dems should America pull herself out of this recession.
We were rather PO'd that he recommended Ginnie Maes as dead solid, and then they died.
"...It doesn't end, there is never any "end". It is a normal economic cycle, it busts and it booms...."
I guess printing trillions of $$$, allocating billions to "pork projects", lying and ready to spend another 3.7 trillion will have no consequences? You call this a NORMAL business cycle?
This will change the course of American history...come on!
Well, I get more of an economics lesson than anything else, although his guests are often interesting.
Once upon a time, conservatives has a better sense of proportion and hard nosed realism than flighty hysterical liberals and their doom mongering panics. Apparently something got into the water and you have all lost your marbles...
Now that our beneficient government has re-defined inflation, they can also take a moment and re-define re-distribution, taxes, government spending, growth of government, loss of freedom, and all the rest.
That way, we are living fat and happy because daddy o-bomber will take care of us.
Since when does printing more money NOT mean inflation?
That is the definition that most of the intelligensia use, so why not you, too?
Printing 4 trillion dollars + of currency (even if it's electronic) is not a normal business cycle.
Bob Brinker has his, and that's all that's important to him.
Just listening to him, I realized he was a liberal.
Wealthy liberal, but just as ignorant as all the other liberals.
Printing new money is only part of the equation. The other part is Credit.
Cash + Credit = Money Supply.
If credit availability is destroyed (e.g. no more sub-prime home loans) faster than new money is printed, then you get Deflation because the Money Supply shrank.
That is all correct, but don't look for any deflation in this lifetime.
Deflation just means that prices deflated. Well, prices on homes and stocks are quite a bit down from their peak. They've deflated.
Salaries are down. And because employment is down, wages and overtime hours are down in aggregate.
Less credit being available generally brings prices down, too.
Stocks and homes are big-ticket items. So are salaries and wages.
They are all down.
Oil has fallen from $147/barrel down into the $50's.
Copper is half of its peak.
The daily rate for supertankers making the crude run from Saudi Arabia to Japan has plunged from $177,000 last year to $16,000 this month.
That's substantial deflation.
I don't know...maybe you could find some grandma to tell you that she's paying a few pennies more for milk...but not much is going up in price compared to the peaks last year.
Deflation is here in a big way.
I don't know if he is a liberal. I DO KNOW that I have NEVER heard him make mention of any family member ever having served in the military. Interesting.
We shall see what happens when the treasury tries to fund the deficit. It will be interesting.
Bob Brinker totally missed the market downturn.
That's been going on already. You're 2 months behind the times.
Just like Japan for the past 20 years.
Not in ernest, the real spending and the debt to finance it has yet to begin.
The U.S. has poured $12.8 Trillion in new cash and credit into the economy since May of 2008.
That's 100% of GDP. Huge!
From a year ago.
Where's inflation?
It's MIA.
You're stuck claiming the same thing as every other discredited inflationist...that somehow inflation is "just around the corner."
Not even close.
Inflationists have been wrong for at least a year here in the U.S., and have been wrong each year for the past 20 years in Japan.
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James Cummings is slated to begin in the role in mid-December. He replaces Robert Hendershott, who has served as interim president and CEO since August 2012.
Oak Orchard Health's longtime president and CEO David Fisher retired in 2012.
Cummings has served as an executive at Lakeside Health System Inc. since 2006, first as vice president of human resources, then senior vice president and finally interim CEO.
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The Jacques and Natasha Gelman Collection
National Gallery of Australia
13 July - 28 October 2001
The haunting self-portraits of the Mexican artist Frida Kahlo are renowned for their dreamlike quality and emotional intensity. A strong and passionate individual, Kahlo overcame injury and personal hardship to become the world's best-known woman artist. Celebrated by the Surrealists in her own lifetime, Kahlo has attained cult status for her extraordinary art and her tempestuous love life with Diego Rivera, Mexico's most prominent modern painter.
An outstanding selection of works by Kahlo and Rivera forms the centrepiece of the Jacques and Natasha Gelman collection, regarded as the most significant private holding of 20th-century Mexican art. The National Gallery of Australia is proud to be the sole venue in Australia to show this important exhibition.
Frida Kahlo was born in 1907 near Mexico City. At 18 she was involved in a bus accident and severely injured, leaving her with chronic health problems that would prevent her from bearing children. Bedridden for months after many surgeries, Kahlo began to paint. Not long after her recovery she met Diego Rivera, whom she married in 1929. While Rivera's controversial mural paintings have clear political content, Kahlo's works are intensely subjective.
Her self-portraits are vivid images of an individual and her relationship to the world, whether as lover and wife of Rivera, as a Mexican citizen, or as a woman unable to have children. Rooted in the Latin American tradition of the retablo painting, a simple religious image depicting a miraculous event in a saint's life, many of her paintings speak of psychological and physical pain. Her startling combination of realistic and bizarre symbolic elements led the Surrealist writer André Breton to describe her work as "a ribbon around a bomb."
This National Gallery of Australia exhibition shows Kahlo's and Rivera's work within the broader history of Mexican modernism. There are works by the mural painters José Clemente Orozco and David Alfaro Siqueiros, contemporaries of Rivera. The Gelman collection also contains many examples of Mexican Surrealism. One of the most important Surrealist artists was the English-born painter Leonora Carrington, who moved to Mexico in 1942. Her paintings are dreamlike scenes in which normal events or objects take on a mysterious, nocturnal menace.
In many ways the stars of the exhibition are the collectors Jacques and Natasha Gelman. Emigrés to Mexico from Eastern Europe, the Gelmans were passionate art lovers who dedicated themselves to collecting the finest examples of 20th-century art. In 1998 their substantial collection of European modernism was donated to the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York. The close relationship between artist and patron is evident in the many portraits of Jacques and Natasha, which are among the strongest works in the Mexican modernism collection.
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As a revolution gripped the country, Spanish citizens took up arms against one another and mercilessly slaughtered their neighbors. How much do you know about the Spanish Civil War?
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Question 1 of 30
The Spanish Civil War pitted the Republicans against which group?
A military revolt started the war, which quickly escalated.
Question 2 of 30
Which side was assisted by Nazi Germany?
The Nationalists had a fascist streak that endeared them to the Nazis.
Question 3 of 30
In what year did the Spanish Civil War begin?
And it dragged on until 1939.
Question 4 of 30
Which side was made up of mostly Roman Catholics?
They were dead-set against social reforms and many had prominent roles in society.
neither side
Question 5 of 30
About how many foreign volunteers fought with the Republicans?
about 5,000
about 8,000
about 30,000
It included men from all over the world who had Communist leanings.
Question 6 of 30
How did the United Kingdom react to the outbreak of the war?
They didn't want anything to do with it.
The U.K.'s official policy was just to try and stay out of the messy affair.
They secretly helped the Nationalists.
They immediately assisted the Republicans.
Question 7 of 30
Which side mounted a vicious repression of anyone who didn't agree with their ideology?
both sides
Both sides dehumanized political opponents and savagely tortured and killed them.
Question 8 of 30
How did Franco take control of the Nationalists?
No one else wanted the job.
He was elected.
Two months into the conflict, he was elected and then never relinquished his leadership.
He killed his rivals.
Question 9 of 30
Which country was the first to publicly announce its support for the Republicans?
Mexico refused to commit to non-intervention agreements and very much wanted the Republicans to win.
Question 10 of 30
The Republican side was mostly made up of what?
the working class
The war essentially pitted workers against the privileged, but there were plenty of other political nuances at work, too.
middle-class suburbanites
Question 11 of 30
During the war, nearly 7,000 Catholic clergy were killed in violence nicknamed what?
Red Terror
The leftists killed tens of thousands of people, including many religious leaders; the church had sided against leftist reforms.
The Holy Horror
Crucifixion of the Church
Question 12 of 30
In total, about how many people died during the war?
about 250,000
about 320000
about 500,000
Another half a million people fled the country in a desperate bid to survive.
Question 13 of 30
In the early stages of the war, what caused most deaths?
Politically-motivated executions (without trial) killed untold thousands of people.
Spanish flu
Question 14 of 30
Which country did NOT support the Nationalists during the war?
The Communists did side with the Republicans, though.
Question 15 of 30
Historians often note the war for which extraordinary characteristic?
Ordinary humans treated each other like animals, leading to mind-numbing brutality.
the use of chemical weapons
the amicable ending
Question 16 of 30
How did the Republicans convince the USSR to help them fight the Nationalists?
They paid them.
Spain sent off most of its gold reserve to Moscow in exchange for military help.
They threatened them.
They begged them.
Question 17 of 30
At the beginning of the military coup, which major city did the Nationalist rebels capture?
The city provided Franco a way to move his troops in from northern Africa.
Question 18 of 30
After the war, what sort of government was Spain left with?
a dictatorship
Franco seized control of the country and didn't let go.
a republic
a democracy
Question 19 of 30
How many nations promised not to intervene in the war?
Only Mexico and the USSR publicly supported the Republican side; Germany and Italy were prominent supports of the Nationalists.
Question 20 of 30
After the war ended, for how long did Francisco Franco rule Spain?
three years
13 years
36 years
He ruled with force, killing hundreds of thousands of Spanish citizens.
Question 21 of 30
Why did both sides seek out foreign military aid?
They were both financially destitute.
They were both too puny to win.
They realized early on that they needed more military might to fight for victory.
They wanted to spark a world war.
Question 22 of 30
As the war settled in, the Nationalists basically adopted a policy based on what?
They employed horrific violence as a means to their ends.
financial equality
Question 23 of 30
About how many French men fought in the International Brigades?
about 10,000
But France didn't support the Republicans, publicly out of fear that it might spark a revolt on French soil.
about 20,000
about 30,000
Question 24 of 30
During the war, a town named Guernica became famous for what?
Nationalists set the town on fire.
Civilians were targeted by aerial bombardment.
In a time when air power was relatively new, the bombing was considered an outrage; it inspired one of Pablo Picasso's most famous paintings.
Nazi troops massacred hundreds of people.
Question 25 of 30
How many people died in the bombing of Guernica?
no one knows
High estimates were at more than 1,600, and lows were at just more than 100; either way, it allowed the Nationalists to take over the town.
Question 26 of 30
How long did Nationalist forces lay siege to Madrid?
three days
three months
three years
Franco attacked the city multiple times and, to his frustration, failed.
Question 27 of 30
Why did Italy's Mussolini decide to join the Nationalists in the war?
Hitler told him to.
Hitler convinced him that it was a good idea; about 50,000 Italians fought at one point or another.
He hated Stalin.
He had extra bombs nearing their expiration dates.
Question 28 of 30
After the war, about how many people died as Franco exacted revenge against his political opponents?
No one knows.
At minimum, 30,000 people were executed, but the number may have reached six figures.
Question 29 of 30
What opportunity did Hitler see by sending forces to the war?
He was testing his military might.
He was consciously practicing for the next big event … World War II.
He thought Spain might be a good place to start World War II.
He wanted Spanish weapons.
Question 30 of 30
How did Franco reward Hitler's help when World War II began?
He remained neutral.
Spain, battered by its internal conflict, never officially joined the Germans in their fight.
He joined the Allies.
He joined the Nazis.


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The mantra that gets repeated on virtually every coaching course goes like this: "Acquiring this licence does not mean that you are a great coach. It means that your education has begun." I'm sure that similar mantras exists in other professional careers.
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What Is UEFI, and How Is It Different from BIOS?
While most people may be familiar with a PC's BIOS, they may not know what it is or what it does. Since UEFI is poised to take its place, let's take a geek retrospective on these two technologies.
Understanding BIOS (Basic Input/Output System)
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The BIOS (pronounced "bye-ose") is a computer's Basic Input-Output System. It's a low-level software that's so important integrally that resides on a chip that's built into the motherboard. When your computer starts up, it's the BIOS's job to wake up the various components and make sure they're functioning, then it passes off functionality to your operating system or another boot loader. A "long" time ago, computers used very different and proprietary ways to do this, but over time IBM's 5150 sort of became a standard on which to base hardware compatibility. It used the Intel 8088 processor which was 16-bit, and so the BIOS itself is 16-bit and is allowed 1MB of address space. It also uses a Master Boot Record, or MBR, to specify the computer's partition table, which in turn tells the BIOS where the operating system is.
POSTing is a BIOS-governed process. It's a power-on self-test which checks the validity and correct functionality of your components. If something is wrong, you'll see an error displayed or hear a cryptic series of beep codes. You may also see the acronym CMOS. This refers to the battery-backed memory which is used in conjunction with the non-volatile RAM used with the BIOS. It's actually not accurate anymore, since this method has been replaced with flash memory (also referred to as EEPROM) in contemporary systems.
All in all it was a good system. It provided an interface from which you could enable/disable individual components and advanced hardware options. Of course, as with everything in the silicon world, BIOS obsolesced in comparison to the newer hardware that was developing. In order to make up for a lot of its shortcomings, extensions were developed. The prime example of this is Advanced Configuration and Power Interface, or ACPI, which was put in place to help device configuration and advanced power management functions. But, over time, it's limitations needed to be overcome by a brand new system.
The Successor: UEFI
The Unified Extensible Firmware Interface, also known as UEFI (pronounced "oofy" or "U effy") was originally developed by Intel to circumvent these issues for its 64-bit Itanium-based servers. Over time, it was renamed from the Intel Boot Initiative and given over to the Unified EFI Forum, which governs the specifications for it. UEFI brought some major changes to the pre-boot environment.
Many implementations of EFI just look like the traditional BIOS, but others customize the visual layout fundamentally. While pretty pictures aren't really necessary, they can be really helpful for things like overclocking. Take a look at the differences:
As you can see, it's easy to use, mouse-capable, and has a lot of potential.
MSI calls its version the "EFI Click BIOS."
16-bit vs 32- and 64-bit
While the BIOS is limited to 16-bit processes and 1MB of memory addressing, UEFI isn't constrained in that way. It can function in 32-bit and 64-bit modes, allowing much more RAM to be addressed by more complex processes. It also can be architecture independent and provide drivers for components that are also independent of what kind of CPU you have.
The MBR is limited to 4 primary partitions per disk and bootable disks are limited in size to 2.2 TB. UEFI uses the GUID Partition Table, which utilizes Globally Unique IDs to address partitions and allows booting from hard disks as large as 9.4 ZB. A terabyte (technically, a tebibyte) is 1024 GB, and a zettabyte (zebibyte) is 1024x1024x1024 GB. Seems pretty future-proof for the moment, no? And the benefits don't stop there; UEFI allows more boot options, doesn't prescribe particular file systems, and has excellent network booting abilities. OS boot loaders can also serve as extensions to the UEFI, which itself can function as a proper boot loader.
UEFI supports older extensions, like ACPI, which aren't dependent on a 16-bit runtime environment. Cryptic beep-code errors are also a thing of the past, as extensions can better test components (unless something more dire is wrong, like a bad processor). In addition, it support EFI-based partitions on hard disks which manufacturers can use to add more functionality. Asus's Splashtop instant-on OS is a good example. While it works with BIOS, UEFI can offer better boot times and loading for something like that.
From BIOS to UEFI
Its potential is what makes UEFI so promising. Not everything is optimal yet, but it operates already at BIOS level, so manufacturers have been starting to use it more on their motherboards. They can use older extensions with the new system until newer ones can take over, and the older visual style can also be used in the interim. The switch has been rolling out at an ever-increasing pace over the past few years. It's not possible to put UEFI on BIOS-based motherboards, but odds are that when you buy a new system or perform an upgrade in the next few years you'll be making the switch, perhaps without even realizing it. It's a slow switch, but it seems to be an inevitable one.
- Published 03/25/11
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can you tell me the example motherboard use UEFI?
@edi try google it ;-)
about time! now if only applications will go all the way 64bit then we can say buh-bye to 32bit limitations.
can we access UEFI by pressing DEL? i guess no :P
The UEFI is an installed software (Drivers & "Utilities") from an installation CD/DVD that we get when purchased the motherboard IMO
I have recently bought a motherboard about 1 month ago : MSI P55A-G55, after the installation of Chipset Drivers i saw "Utilties" which i guess IMO is the UEFI where in the manual i saw screenshots (Control Center) for accessing BIOS Profile, Overclocking, DRAM Configuration, Controling LED on motherboard, check MOSFET Temp..
It offers a more friendly GUI compared to the traditional BIOS but can we installed it under linux environment? :S
I'll stick to my traditional BIOS interface xD
As a geek, it is in my nature to be pedantic.
A ZB is a GB times 1024 four fold, not three.
Still, great article. Well explained.
@Edi. From the spec, this motherboard (for example) seems to have UEFI. http://www.ebuyer.com/product/250065
@rino. Down with 32 bit :D My company bought me a laptop with 4GB of RAM but W7 32bit :C
So it will be like universal – both PCs and Macs – or is there some huge difference between UEFI and EFI?
Hope it will be universal so finally OCing will be available to Macs. 8)
can this UEFI be downloaded and replace the existing bios on an older motherboard?
Apple computers with an Intel processor and win2K3 server already use the Guid partition scheme
@ A – read the last paragraph.
Its an P8P68 Deluxe clue is on the picture …….
Thanks. Useful (love the acronym pronunciation keys).
What do you mean by "…(perform) an upgrade?"
It's not possible to put UEFI on BIOS-based motherboards, but odds are that when you buy a new system or perform an upgrade in the next few years you'll be making the switch, perhaps without even realizing it.
@ Rich- You know, when you "preform an upgrade" meaning you "buy" a new motherboard to upgrade your system.
Great article. Just wish people would RTFM or article entirely before you post your question. ( @ A )
it's a waste of keyboard types.
I keep getting blue screen error that refer to my BIO's.
Any suggestions, I have already reinstalled VISTA and upgraded to Windows 7?
What does the Blue Screen Error state?
Sorry, @ Kim, what does the error message say?
Check your BIO'S disable shadowing and something else. I will have to write them down again. If you installed any recent software. This desktop is only 4 years old and I have had it to two different repair places no one seems to know what the issue is….
II need a new computer soon; is it worth waiting for UEFI? It sounds like a real improvement. I tend to keep my machines as long as possible – my IBM ThinkpadiT41 is over 6 years old — and I'd dislike missing out on a significant new feature. I can hobble along with my T41 if there were a reasonable timeframe for UEFI….(How can one tell if it is installed? Is any particular manufacturer on the fast track to incorporate UEFI?.) THANKS. Jean
Not in BIOS. Functions of your OS or IE.
see Task Manager>Performance
Maybe you need more ram or your ram is defective
And technology marches on!
Where does the UEFI Machine Code reside ??
On a Controller Chip, Built in to a Chipset, Built in to every CPU, etc…??
It cannot reside on any particular hardware boot device as that would defeat its purpose.
This is one of the clearest and readily understood things I've read in recent years. KUDO's.
This probably isn't a big deal but I do want to clear one thing up. (Isn't this the catch phrase of every "geek"?)
In the article it said, "It used the Intel 8088 processor which was 16-bit…" And I have to say that statement is somewhat misleading. The reason it is misleading is because the 8088 only had an 8-bit "external" bus. That meant the 8088 could only work as an 8-bit processor because it could only produce 8-bits of data each clock cycle. So, yes it was a 16-bit CPU internally and technically speaking, but because it was somewhat crippled by it's 8-bit bus it could only work as a 8-bit CPU. (It's this 8-bit bus which is why the successor line of 80188 line of CPU's were shortly abandoned too).
Therefore, I would have preferred the mention of the 8086 rather than the 8088. And that's really my point here.
For true 16-bit you should have mentioned the 8086. Because it was the 8086 – not the 8088 – which is the real the grand daddy of modern day PC's. In fact, it was the 8086 which is what was "over developed" and eventually morphed into the 80486 – often referred to as simply a "486." The concept really exploded when Intel started developing their Pentium line of CPU's too. But you can still see the influence of the 8086 even then.
I know that there were BIOS viruses many years ago that really didn't amount to anything, but this seems like there is more to it, but there's also more to go wrong. Say someone can crack into this. They can change some settings and make it unable to report the information it needs to to the OS. Say something breaks in the code, then the system is unable to boot. Just more to go wrong, as I see it.
I think an encrypted 'BIOS' to boot into UEFI would be a good security feature. Eh?
UEFI. Good for remote control your PC without your knowledge.
Very cool I have always been a fan of asus. I would like to try one of new asus boards with UEFI. What I am wondering is. Will these boards be compatible with any RAM and CPU that are are on the market now. Or will they need to be UEFI compatible. Or did I miss that in the wright up..
@ Kim check your RAM volt settings, you may need to change them up or down. Depending on the board and RAM you have.
I'm not sure we have our facts right. The first time I ever saw a BIOS that a person could "adjust" was in a 80286 – not in systems based on 8088/8086 CPU's. Back then, most computers based on the 8088 and 8086 were considered to be "XT" type machines, were often referred to as "clones" if they didn't come from IBM, and did not have a BIOS that a user could adjust. It wasn't until the "AT" which started with 80286 CPU-based systems that there was any kind of user interface to the BIOS settings.
I just wanted to clear that up.
Even more interesting is the reason some of those earlier systems were called "clones" too. That's because a clone was able to load and run Microsoft's Disk Based Operating System (MS-DOS) which was really just a slightly different version of IBM's own PC-DOS (this was way before OS/2 or OS/2 Warp). And guess who the "developer" of IBM's first PC OS was? Hint: it's the same guy! And it was IBM's BIOS that he had access to which allowed him get "his" OS work on those machines too.
Yep! Not only did Bill Gates (legally) rip off Digital Research to obtain "his" operating system (a charge that's rather common knowledge) but Bill Gates also (legally) ripped off IBM for their BIOS code too. I should say "probably" since it's not something anyone can really prove. Not now that the worlds richest man has an army of lawyers who can bury any incriminating evidence – if it exists. About all that has been proven is that when IBM's contract ended with Bill Gates that 'ol Mister Bill almost immediately went into competition with IBM by selling his own version of the nearly the same identical operating system. And having an operating system that was already tweaked to work with a BIOS on what all the idiot business people were buying just made it that much easier.
Nice guy, isn't he? Sort of makes a you want to embrace Apple at least until you realize that Apple was founded by a stark raving dictatorial lunatic who's probably worse!
nice info anonymous…
IBM pretty much let Mr. Bill have the OS business cause the DOJ was on them for the same reasons they went after Microsoft a few years ago. Gates was in the right place at the right time with what it took to get the job done (whatever "it" is)
Awesome article. Keep up the good work.
There was a good thread on Slashdot about this 6 years ago:
and even then it was obvious that this was a way to push DRM on to the consumer.
We should reject this technology and demand BIOS, or (better) OpenBIOS.
"also known as UEFI (pronounced "oofy" or "U effy")"
Here is Europe we have a football (sorry… soccer…) governing body called UEFA – pronounced by the English speakers as "you-wafer".
UEFI is gonna become 'you-wafee", I'm already struggling to read it any other way.
But will it run Lunix??
Sorry I am not clear to the answer to this simple questions. Is UEFI bios replacing traditional BIOS or is it in addition to traditional BIOS? Basically, if I buy a board ASROCK H67M-ITX/HT which states UEFI is required to have 64 bit vista or 7, if i buy that board my only options for os is 64 bit vista or 7. what if i want to install xp 32 bit? is it going to look like the traditional bios or will i not be able to install xp 32 bit. please no tripe comments just a straight answer.
how do i know if i have UEFI ?


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Sheila O'Connell, curator, British Museum
Members of the Occupy movement have recently taken to wearing Guy Fawkes masks. The face is distantly based on a print of the Gunpowder Plotters published in Germany early in 1606. Guy Fawkes's grinning mask lends a playful air to political protest. We remember him because we enjoy bonfires and fireworks on 5 November, the anniversary of the day he was arrested in a storeroom beneath the House of Lords. But his contemporaries, including Shakespeare, would have seen nothing light-hearted in the plan to ignite 36 barrels of gunpowder under the chamber where parliament was due to be opened by the king.
If the plot had succeeded, those killed, or at least seriously injured, would have included King James I, the entire government, senior members of all the leading families in the country, the queen and both the young princes, not to mention very many less eminent people. Shakespeare wrote Macbeth during the following months, when the plotters and their associates were being hung, drawn and quartered in the streets of London – some outside St Paul's Cathedral at the very spot where the Occupy camp was set up earlier this year.
Macbeth's story of the assassination (the first literary use of the word) of an ancient Scottish king has clear allusions to the Gunpowder Plot and to the terror it provoked. When Lennox arrives at Macbeth's castle on the morning after the murder, he speaks of premonitions of disaster:
The night has been unruly: where we lay,
Our chimneys were blown down; and, as they say,
Lamentings heard i' the air; strange screams of death,
And prophesying with accents terrible
Of dire combustion and confused events
New hatch'd to the woeful time: the obscure bird
Clamour'd the livelong night: some say, the earth
Was feverous and did shake.
Parallels with modern assassinations and politically- and religiously-inspired terrorist attacks are easy to make, and if the conspiracy had been successful the shock effect would have been comparable with that of 11 September 2001, the assassinations of John F Kennedy, Martin Luther King and Benazhir Bhutto. The outpouring of public grief at the tragic death of Princess Diana is some indication of how Britain would have reacted to the sudden violent death of members of the royal family.
The Gunpowder Plot was a horror on an unprecedented scale and, in the context of the continuing wars of the Reformation, conspiracy theories abounded. The Plot was not seen as the work of a small group of extremists, but as the latest in a succession of Roman Catholic threats to Britain. It was, after all, just 17 years since the Spanish Armada, when England only narrowly escaped invasion by the most powerful Catholic state of the day. Popular imagery linked the events of 1588 and 1605: the horseshoe-shaped fleet of Spanish ships and Guy Fawkes with his dark lantern approaching the vault beneath parliament.
Over the following centuries, the image of Guy Fawkes became shorthand for a threat to government and national security, see www.britishmuseum.org/collection for more than 70 examples. The Occupy movement is just the latest element in a legacy lasting more than 400 years.
Shakespeare: staging the world is open from 19 July to 25 November 2012.
The exhibition is supported by BP.
Part of the World Shakespeare Festival and London 2012 Festival.
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Chapter 13
The firstborn of man and of beasts are to be sanctified unto the Lord—The Feast of Unleavened Bread is to be kept in the land of Canaan—Moses takes Joseph's bones out of Egypt—The Lord attends Israel in a pillar of cloud by day and a pillar of fire by night.
1 And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying,
3 ¶And Moses said unto the people, Remember this day, in which ye came out from
4 This day
5 ¶And it shall be when the Lord shall
6 Seven days thou shalt eat unleavened bread, and in the seventh day shall be a feast to the Lord.
7 Unleavened bread shall be eaten seven days; and there shall no
8 ¶And thou shalt
9 And it shall be for a
10 Thou shalt therefore keep this ordinance
11 ¶And it shall be when the Lord shall bring thee into the land of the
12 That thou shalt set apart unto the Lord
13 And every firstling of an ass thou shalt redeem with a lamb; and if thou wilt not redeem it, then thou shalt break his neck: and all the
14 ¶And it shall be when thy
15 And it came to pass, when Pharaoh would hardly let us go, that the Lord
16 And it shall be for a token upon thine hand, and for
17 ¶And it came to pass, when Pharaoh had let the people go, that God led them not through the way of the land of the Philistines, although that was near; for God said, Lest
18 But God
19 And Moses took the bones of
20 ¶And they took their journey from
21 And the
22 He took not away the pillar of the cloud by day, nor the pillar of fire by night, from before the people.


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Barrie Cook, exhibition curator, British Museum
Perhaps there should be an official warning: working in a museum can spoil your fun. Well, not really and I don't want it put anyone off a museum career, but while a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing, too much knowledge can sometimes put a damper on things.
I spent the autumn and winter of 2011 preparing the exhibition running now in Gallery 69a until 25 November 2012, Crowns and ducats: Shakespeare's money and medals, and the accompanying book. As a result, I have moved from having a vague awareness of Shakespeare's use of coin and money references to, at least for a while, a pretty comprehensive knowledge of the subject.
So now I can't see a Shakespeare play without a constant internal running commentary – and it's usually: 'Oh no! They've cut that out!' But, in way, this points up why the exhibition is there in the first place. Shakespeare uses the coins and monetary units of his time constantly (native and foreign): angels and ducats, drachmas and doits, groats and crowns, dollars and pennies. He also makes metaphoric use of the ways in which coins are made, used and abused and he does this in every play he wrote. And all this was to help the audience, to give them an idea of value, to demonstrate character (Falstaff makes money-jokes constantly), to make a joke about what they had in their purses and what they all knew so well.
But, what was put there to help the audience is now more of an obstacle. Jokes based on what a three-farthings looks like are hardly going to bring the house down and will instead be utterly baffling. So it's hardly a surprise when a performing edition trims them out on the ground that we don't know that an angel is a coin, let alone how much it is worth; that we don't routinely weigh our coins or check if the metal content is right. But if you come to the exhibition, you will know this and have the chance to get frustrated too.
Crowns and ducats: Shakespeare's money and medals is on display at the British Museum until 25 November 2012.
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09/12/2013 | 07:18 |
Category: INDUSTRY
Hisense the Chinese brand that is fast becoming a household brand in Australia is set to make several major announcements at CES with one of the announcements tipped to be a TV platform partnership with Google.
Ahead of the CES show the Company has announced three H6 series Smart TVs, based on the Android 4.2.2 platform along with a new Pulse PRO set-top streaming box.
The new products which are set to launched in Australia next year will be available in 40" 50" and 55-inch TV screen sizes and will all be equipped with Marvell's latest ARMADA 1500 Plus (88DE3108) HD Media processor.
The new Android based Hisence models have been released as Google gets set to reveal an Android powered Nexus TV set-top box early in 2014 with some observers claiming that it could be shown at CES in partnership with Hisense who are believed to be the manufacturer of the new Nexus branded STB.
The device that is tipped to be similar to the Apple TV, only with Android at its core, will allow users to stream content from content partners, as well as make use of apps and play games downloaded from the Play Store.
Insiders claim that the Nexus TV box was originally intended to be launched at Google I/O this year before being replaced by the HDMI wireless streaming dongle, the Google Chromecast.
Now tipped for an early 2014 launch with speculation mounting that it could be part of major Hisense announcement.The Google Nexus TV box will reportedly tackle the wider home entertainment market, with an integrated camera and motion sensor bringing the likes of Skype to the set-top box.
The new Hisence Pulse PRO delivers the Smart functionality of the H6 TVs, including access to services such as Netflix, Vudu HD Movies, Amazon Instant Video, Chrome, YouTube, Google Play, Google Voice Search, PrimeTime, Android-based TV v4 media streaming, a Marvell BG2-CT board with 1GB RAM and 4GB Flash, HDMI-In/Out, IR-In/Out, DLNA, Wi-Fi, Ethernet, Bluetooth, USB and an air mouse remote with mic and motion sensing.
The services will be amended for the Australian market.
The new TV sets all boast an EasyView natural user interface triggered by a simplified air mouse remote control (also supplied with the Pulse PRO box).
"Android delivers on the promise of Smart. Today, by seamlessly coupling Hisense's television expertise, Marvell's high performing and innovative ARMADA 1500 Plus platform and Android's connectivity and interactivity, Hisense is delivering on the promise of a truly smart TV - and making it accessible to broad markets across the globe," said Jonathan Frank, a Hisense marketing VP.
"We are proud to bring Google services for Smart TV to the market with the H6 and the Pulse PRO. Hisense provides a comfortable lean-back experience, with an elegant, simple remote with mic for voice control and functionality that is simply phenomenal. And if you're not quite ready to invest in a new TV, but would like the latest and greatest Android platform, get the Pulse PRO set-top box."
Both the sets and the Pulse PRO box come with the Hisense Social TV app and Hisense Cloud Services Hi-Media player and receiver. The TV sets also have 1GB of RAM and 8GBs ROM.
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Dave Bolland is not a fit for the Edmonton Oilers
Jonathan Willis
June 28 2013 09:24AM
On Wednesday, ESPN/TSN reporter Pierre LeBrun tweeted that Chicago Blackhawks centre Dave Bolland was being shopped by the team. Bolland, highly regarded as one of the league's best checking centres in recent years, would under normal circumstances be a highly desirable acquisition for the Edmonton Oilers. Circumstances, however, are far from normal.
Heard from another team that the Blackhawks are shopping center Dave Bolland...— Pierre LeBrun (@Real_ESPNLeBrun) June 27, 2013
The Cost
I am told the 'Hawks are looking for a Pominvile-like return for Bolland— Bob Stauffer (@Bob_Stauffer) June 27, 2013
If Bob Stauffer is anywhere close with his report as to what the Blackhawks are asking for – and it's pretty unlikely he would write that unless he had solid information – than Chicago isn't looking to shed cap hit or simply move the player out; they're hoping for a team to see Bolland as a guy who drives results.
A reminder as to what Pominville (and a fourth-round pick) fetched at the deadline for Buffalo:
The 16th overall draft pick in 2013 A second round draft pick in 2014 Prospect Johan Larsson (2nd round pick in 2010; 62GP, 15-22-37 in the AHL this season as a rookie) Prospect Matt Hackett (3rd round pick in 2009; 43GP, 0.907 SV% in his third AHL season)
Larsson and Hackett both had relatively poor seasons – Larsson was a much bigger scorer in Sweden while Hackett managed 0.917 and 0.916 save percentage seasons in his two previous AHL campaigns – but both are still decent if unspectacular prospects.
It isn't a ridiculous return for a third-line centre who is among the best in the league at his position, but then that's the second problem.
Dave Bolland had a miserable season in 2013.
Unlike in previous campaigns, Bolland didn't play brutal minutes. He did see good opponents, but he had a 50/50 split of offensive and defensive zone draws and basically had Patrick Kane and Patrick Sharp welded on either hip all season. Of course, Bolland missed some time to injury, so Kane and Sharp played roughly half their minutes with Bolland and half their minutes with other players. A look at their results with and without Bolland is instructive.
With Patrick Kane and Dave Bolland on the ice, the Blackhawks were outscored by a 4:3 margin and out-Corsied (Corsi measure all shot attempts and shows which end of the ice the puck is in) 5:4. With Kane on the ice and no Bolland, the Blackhawks outscored the opposition 3:2 and out-Corsied them 4:3.The results (shown in the link above) were very similar for Patrick Sharp with and without Bolland.
Putting that into English: a line of Patrick Kane, Dave Bolland and Patrick Sharp were crushed by the opposition despite playing on a very good team. That same unit, minus Dave Bolland, was dominant. Bolland fell to fourth line duty in the playoffs. Bolland's only 27 but plays a physically intense style with a slight frame (6', 184 pounds) and any team acquiring him runs the risk that this year was the beginning of the new trend with Bolland rather than an aberration.
The Bottom Line
Dave Bolland has been a very, very good hockey player in recent years, but his struggles in 2013 make him a risk – and any team acquiring him should refuse to pay market value given that risk. The Blackhawks, while evidently interested primarily in future rather than current assets, are asking for a hefty return for Bolland's services. It simply doesn't make sense for a team like Edmonton to offer up that kind of package for an uncertain return.
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Yesterday, the Tampa Bay Lightning announced they were going to buy out Vincent Lecavalier, and fans in 29 other cities immediately started wondering if he might be a fit for their team. In Vancouver, it appears that general manager Mike Gillis has definite interest:
Needless to say Lecavalier will have plenty of suitors, including the Canucks to hear Pierre LeBrun tell it on the Team 1050 on Thursday. "The Canucks front office has already talked to John Tortorella about this," Lebrun passed along on Thursday, "and they see this as a possible fit if they can get out of cap hell, which they're in now."
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No to Bolland and Letang whom we'll never get anyways . Yes to Coburn and he could be cheaper than expected if Philly can convince Oilers not to take Ristolainen . Side deal could be we take Risto at 7th, and trade him and a second , for Coburn and their first at 11 . Buff hot after Risto as well , and will probably use their second pick for a goalie by the sounds of it .
Holmgren showed his hand when he said Risto and Jones are the only two defenceman NHL ready .
More often than not, I find myself agreeing with Willis' take on players, but I have to disagree pretty strongly here. I would consider Bolland to be an almost ideal fit. No doubt he had a bad year, but I'm more inclined to take his performances of the 3 years prior, which are all excellent (played tougher minutes with lesser players and the WOWY), than a single lockout-shortened season that was further shortened by injury that had him produce bad results.
I have no trouble believing that he could find himself return to his 2009-2012 level next season and for years to come, and that player is an elite 3rd line center. Something we could certainly use. Not only do I think he'd be an excellent fit, I don't think giving up Pominville-like package is out of the question unless that package included the #7 overall.
More often than not, I find myself agreeing with Willis' take on players, but I have to disagree pretty strongly here. I would consider Bolland to be an almost ideal fit. No doubt he had a bad year, but I'm more inclined to take his performances of the 3 years prior, which are all excellent (played tougher minutes with lesser players and the WOWY), than a single lockout-shortened season that was further shortened by injury that had him produce bad results.
I have no trouble believing that he could find himself return to his 2009-2012 level next season and for years to come, and that player is an elite 3rd line center. Something we could certainly use. Not only do I think he'd be an excellent fit, I don't think giving up Pominville-like package is out of the question unless that package included the #7 overall.
Giving up a Pominville like package for a guy who's career high was 47 points...5 years ago!?!?
The last 3 seasons before this year he had 16, 37, and 37.
You do not give up that kind of package for a guy who at his best is a good 3rd line center.
First off, those who like Bolland...at the type of Pominville deal...are loony tunes. No one GM "sane enough" is goona waste a #7 pick.,..at the least...or even two very good slots in the second round for an somewhat injury proneand very average point producer... type 3rd to 4th line center...PERIOD!!!
There are other many younger to very good veteran plkayers to sign UFA or trade for but not at that type price Chicago is seeking.
Next, if Letang wants to get over $7.5 to $8 mil plus per year long term let him find another team other than Edmonton.
I am not agreeing with JW who wants this guy at that type price per yr..without proving himself to lead his team (ex; Penguins) into several cup . One Cup on a loaded Penguins squad? That does not warrant $7 to 48 mil per year....
I would much rather get Yandle, Tyutin, even Coburn, etc, to line up with J. schultz as the top pairing/2nd top pairing than to send alot of assets/picks/prospects for one such D-man as Letang.
I absolute know he is 26 yrs old and he is an offensive whiz, and he is a big upgrade to the Oilers present defence...but... his injury times and his play this post season... did not impress me not once enough to support and/or give up any of the Oilers' six top kids (Hall, Ebs, RNH, J.Schultz, Yak, Klefbom) plus the #7 pick overall and maybe plus one to two more prospects.
$7.5 mil to $8 mil per year is not worth it on top of any assets going to Pittsburgh for this guy.
Letang would be Edm best PLAYER. and no, this doesnt mean i dont like Hall, Ebs, etc....i do. Again, the point I always make.....this city has not had an ace dman since Paul Coffey...so people dont remember how important that player is. Ask the old school how important Coffey was...and how much better he made already good players. Kris Letang will instantly make the Edm offense as dangerous as when gun powder was invented and first used on the battle field. GAME CHANGER
The Oilers didn't crash & burn when Coffey left. They won two more cups. While Coffey was important, he didn't drive the team. Gretsky, Messier, Kurri & Anderson did that. Pronger drove the team in 2006. Letang is no Pronger.
I also disagree with Willis that Letang would be the best player on the team. Within a couple of years, Hall, Nuge & Yak all will be better.
@EHH Team
Totally agree. The team that gives Letang 7.5-8 million will be kicking themselves for it
Bolland..."move along folks, there's not much here"...
Whats not to Like. Size 185 lbs F/O % below 50 % the past two seasons... Worst plus/minus for a regular forwad on the team... past two seasons.
Chicago trying to cash in on Bollands cup winning goal... there's not much more.
As someone else suggested, you might as well keep Horcoff.
Kane plays center in the offensive zone for the Hawks. So Bolland is not the right kind of center to play with Kane. Very few centers are.
Bolland and Toews alternated playing against the other team's top centers. When Toews did it, Q had Hossa on the captain's wing. Bolland would take on the other team's top lines while playing with Sharp and Kane. The Patricks are two of the worst defensive wingers on the Hawks.
Bolland was misused this sesason by Q. The Hawks want to play top two lines against top two lines. Bolland isn't a fit for that approach. Bolland plays the top lines from the checking role. He will be an asset wherever he ends up.
Shouldn't they be looking for the next player to score a Stanley cup winning goal not the last player. He still has game left but two cups on his resume, I would rather a role player with none.
The cost of the trade is only half the question. What will Bolland resign for after next season? There is only so much you pay a 3rd line C.
June 28 2013, 08:43PM
It's a small step from, he won't be a perfect fit here, to, we'll take anyone with a pulse please.


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This first super model in years who is a true super model and can rock a runway is cheating on her boyfriend with this married A list entertainer(singer)
Coco Rocha?ReplyCancel
Coco is married.
I think it's Chanel Iman.ReplyCancel
Yep on the Upton guess.
Hahaha on Entern pretending to be a 50 something guy (though the basement description fits) talking about someone who can "rock" the runway.
Kate isn't runway or a supermodel.ReplyCancel
I was gonna guess myself until I read the "her" part.
I'm too sexy for my hatReplyCancel
Naomi. new bfReplyCancel
Cara is with Michelle… girlfriend not bfReplyCancel
Naomi is hardly the first new supermodel in years who can "rock" a runway.
"Clock" an assistant with a phone, yes.
Coco was the only one I could think of that would actually maybe hit the supermodel part, or recognizable, what about Doutzen Kroes?ReplyCancel
Kate Upton a super model? BWAHAHAHAHA! Top runway models are Irina Shayk, Candace Swanepol, Nina Agdal, Doutzen Kroes, Lara Stone, Joan Smalls, Carolyn Murphy, Hilary Rhoda, Liu Wen,Adiana Lima, Miranda Kerr, Cara Delevigne, Gisele Bundchen, Coco Rocha, etc.
But…knowing Enty, it probably is Upton.ReplyCancel
Definitely a Joan Smalls or Jourdan Dunn type.ReplyCancel
Exactly di. Know your audience.
Better yet, know your writer(s)
Forgot the "new" thing. :)) not familiar with the new runway legsReplyCancel
TTM, Coco was a good guess!ReplyCancel
Joan Smalls/Beyoncè.ReplyCancel
Possibly Toni Garrn cheating on Leo?ReplyCancel
Joan Smalls, Jourdan Dunn & Chanel Iman all fit and were all featured in Beyoncè's video for "YONCÈ"ReplyCancel
stratham' gal is rosie huntingtonReplyCancel
and rosie w. huntington could easily be seeing a married 50+ singerReplyCancel
Wigs, don't patronise, I can tell when you're faking!ReplyCancel
@Leek, from your mouth to the gossip god's ears.ReplyCancel
@Kristin If anyone ever deserved to be cheated on, it's Leo!ReplyCancel
TTM, baby Jesus in a manger I thought I was getting better!
Seriously though, Coco always flies under the radar.ReplyCancel
I dunno where I got the '50+' singer-just how I pictured a married singer. kate upton's on&off boyfriend's baseball player Justin Verlander but she's known to play the field.I didn't consider her a supermodel either though.ReplyCancel
I do like your work elsewhere, though. ^5!ReplyCancel
Rosie Huntington Whiteley! She is in the DM today at Coachella. Me thinks she is getting her proper fuck on out there in the desert. Flower headbands lead to bad decisions.ReplyCancel
Karlie Kloss.ReplyCancel
"Flower headbands lead to bad decisions."
Rule 2 of the Coachella safety handbook;
Never let a hipster take you to a second location.
Taylor SwiftReplyCancel
Upton's gigantic tits leave the VS runway as the only one she can "rock" in any way. Not a supermodel.
Maybe Coco.ReplyCancel
Bwahaha here's to bottomless Coachella blinds tomorrow! I already have a couple students that got arrested for drug possession en route to that hipster hellhole, let's hope everyone comes back in one piece!ReplyCancel
Coco is out (married)
I think it's RHW, but it could be Kloss or Swanopoel
Coco Rocha's career peaked in 2007-8, she's not a new supermodel. There are so many distinctive newcomers that this blind could apply to many.ReplyCancel


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Dark Gates - 0.3.1
Bartosz Debski (braqoon)
Game inspired by paper RPG tiled game "Death Maze" or "Labirynt Smierci" released in Poland long time ago. Game will feature random generated maze (while you playing), monsters, treasures, etc. Aim of the game is to find Dark Gates and kill Unnamed in order to destory Dark Gates.
Today release 0.3.1 is out. This is a small release mostly with art updates and small bug fixes. There is one new feature - Experience points. From now on, each fight or trap in the doors will contribute to experience counter of each hero. That update is a small step towards save system which is the next milestone. Possibly there will be more releases in 0.3.x branch but this will not affect work on 0.4 one. Enjoy.
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PS. To all Mac users. There is no update 0.3.x update yet. I lost access to my build machine and possibly there will be big delays or no update for now. Sorry for inconvenience.
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