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Skip to comments.Report: George Tiller Shot To Death [Child Murderer Killed At Wichita Church]
Posted on 05/31/2009 10:08:54 AM PDT by upchuck
WICHITA, Kan. -- Dr. George Tiller, a Kansas man who became one of the most famous figures in the national debate over abortion, was shot and killed at his church Sunday morning, KAKE-TV reported.
Tiller was walking into Reformation Lutheran Church at 10:03 a.m., when he was shot.
Tiller was pronounced dead when emergency crews arrived, the station reported.
Police were looking for a blue Ford Taurus with a K-State vanity plate, license number 225 BAB. Police described him as a white male in his 50's or 60's, 6'1," 220 lbs, wearing a white shirt and dark pants.
The best pot so far in this thread!!!
Who cares what he says about FR. He has his own snakes to kill...
In other words, you all think it's smart to tremble at what the baby-killers will think?I care very little what they think. I care very much about what they'll *do*. Obama and his posse are in charge right now. if you don't think that Obama and gang aren't going to come down like a ton of bricks on the anti-abortion movement(and thereby the conservative base) you've got another thing coming.
Sorry, I can't buy that.
Remember that felons can't vote and pretty soon it will be a crime to be conservative.
Well, you got 99 posts on this thread. That's a pretty strong approval rating over the posting nazis.
The fact that the deceased made his living killing babies should not make his murder any more egregious.
I'd argue that since he valued life with such disdain, that I can understand how some might take solace in the fact that we has murdered.
A Time for Everything
1 To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:
2 a time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;
3 a time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;
4 a time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance;
5 a time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;
6 a time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away;
7 a time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;
8 a time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace.
9 What profit hath he that worketh in that wherein he laboreth?
10 ¶ I have seen the travail, which God hath given to the sons of men to be exercised in it.
11 He hath made every thing beautiful in his time: also he hath set the world in their heart, so that no man can find out the work that God maketh from the beginning to the end.
12 I know that there is no good in them, but for a man to rejoice, and to do good in his life.
13 And also that every man should eat and drink, and enjoy the good of all his labor, it is the gift of God.
14 I know that, whatsoever God doeth, it shall be for ever: nothing can be put to it, nor any thing taken from it: and God doeth it, that men should fear before him.
15 That which hath been is now; and that which is to be hath already been; and God requireth that which is past.
That's a sweeping statement. Outside of this particular issue do you oppose snipers?
On the abortion issue I have always taken a competing rights perspective in that the unborn at some point had more right to live than the woman had to control her body. A later term abortion would clearly be infringing upon the rights of a baby that could survive outside the body.
For those passionate about the pro life movement I see this as a setback. The media will seize upon this just like they do when there is a shooting and they go after gun rights.
Wow,, 3 minutes late. Wonder had he been on time and already inside, if the NUT intended to walk inside and shoot him sitting in the pew?
On hearing the news, that was probably one of the first thoughts of many on this list.
Actually, wouldn't this be a better argument for allowing armed security in churches?
He will till no more in the bloody garden of evisceration.
Hopefully he is. The sooner this is over with the better.
Are you intentionally obtuse, or are you just out of touch with reality?
No, I was not including acts necessary in war or in self defense...
What kind of "church" was this? The Wright kind?
No, thats in a vampire movie. In reality, christians (and Jesus)want sinners to find their way in the church house door. And as often as they want decide to.
I guess the allies should not have killed a single Nazi soldier in WWII?
To invoke a favorite meme of the left: I question the timing.This looks like the opening for an anti-Christian Kristallnacht.Think of Janet 'conservatives are enemies of the state' Napolitano's DHS report.
Murder is your spelling of assassinate.
The question has no relevance.
Yes. Look what happened in 1998 when that doctor was killed in New York State. What should have been a good year for Republican candidates turned out rather poorly.
Don't be so sure. There are those who will not travel farther even for a late-term abortion. And there are those who will have this week's appointment canceled. sob sob
It is not murder to kill someone to save someone else's life.
Remember, we ALL deserve hell. Perhaps Tiller turned to God with his last breaths. We could meet him in Heaven.
It's starting...
Indeed it is.
Bullcrap. Burning cities didnt do anything for civil rights. What it did do, was make whitey have an excuse to equate black with "dangerous".
What turned the tide was refusing to move to the back of the bus,, or those men in dress suits weearing signs saying "I am a man". What turned the tide was stuff like Little Rock High, well-dressed kids just attempting to go to school.
If you want a better analogy from the civil rights era. Think about the guy dynamiting that church and killing the four little girls. His purpose was to stop desegregation, he galvanized thought against his cause.
Todays murderer will probably achieve a similar result. This is a huge black eye. Sane anti-abortionists and the cause were hurt today. This is the mentality of the church that protests soldier funerals. Are you going to want to be a supported of that bunch of low lifes if it turns out to be one of them?
My sentiments exactly!
Could be a false flag op. Regardless, it WILL be used against us by the dark side. Prepare for the worst.
>Both the shooter and the victim will be judged.<
The shooter had to kill in order to save the lives of numerous future children.
If the shooter is considered a murderer, then so are our brave soldiers. They (the soldiers) have to kill in order to save our lives from the constant threat of terrorism.
Catholics know the Confiteor: "...for what I have done and what I have failed to do..." Those who vored for Obama are failing to protect many of our future children by allowing the snuffing out of their lives intentionally.
(And all you catholic Obama voters, don't expect an apology from me. You made your beds, learn to sleep in them.)
Right, and if you don't want one, you don't have to have one...isn't that the 'choice' that is advertised?
Take a look at how Daily Kos is covering reactions of FR.
Couldn't agree more. How this will be portrayed in the media and to the average voter will end up doing great harm to the pro-life movement.
Not going to go to that swamp. What- do they think we're celebrating?
I've heard the same sort of stuff from those that think 9-11 was an anti-muslim plot...
When they apologise for Ayers and their other homegrown terrorists instead of giving them university professorships, I'll care what they think.
Disgusting comment. You should be ashamed. What if my daughter was at the Olympics that night when that bomb went off? My christian kid needs to be randomly murdered so that arrogant prick, Rudoph the bomber, gets his point across? How about the bomb he set to kill firemen responding to his first bomb? Guy in a firehouse gets a call, and responds. Doesnt go home to his kids if Rudolphs bomb get him.
If you believe that Rudoph did a good thing, you are EXACTLY the same as the suicide bombers in Iraq, killing innocents at the marketplace for your cause. The ONLY hero in the Rudoph case was Richard Jewell.
And if it's choice, what choice does the child have? Did anyone ask it if it wanted to be born or not?
I think I'll take a rain check,thanks.They don't make a disinfectant strong enough to make me feel "clean" after having read trash like the Daily Chaos.I have a good enough imagination to know that words like "Nazi" are being bandied about quite freely there right now.
But in your case I must respectfully dissent because your utterly clueless.
Obviously, the choice is only for those that are old enough to bear children.
Titus Livy said the same thing, more or less, over 2000 years ago. This lesson is so stark and so compelling thatit bears repeating at every opportunity. In his introduction to his monumental history of Rome, Livy remarked that his purpose in writing was "to trace the progress of our moral decline, to watch, first, the sinking of the foundations of morality as the old teaching was allowed to lapse, then the rapidly increasing disintegration, then the final collapse of the whole edifice, and the dark dawning of our modern day when we can neither endure our vices nor face the remedies needed to cure them."
The whole question of whether or not America will continue to exist a free Republic comes down to whether we can face - and enact - the remedies needed to cure our nation, our culture and our hearts of the rot of Marxism, multi-culturalism and collectivism that has penetrated every institution we have. Rome failed to to do what we must do - and history is our witness to its fate.
WHO SHOT HIM matters a LOT.....where's the reporting!
The ELCA supports the whole homosexual agenda and supports abortion, late term abortion as well as partial-birth abortion.
He undoubtedly felt right at home in this church as he knew it would not toss him out on his sorry rear because of his evil medical practice.
that was my reaction exactly upon hearing it. will be used as further proof that prolifers=terrorists. Satan is upping the ante.
"If the shooter is considered a murderer, then so are our brave soldiers."
A murderous coward has nothing to do with our soldiers in combat. Thats the mentality of the Westboro church.
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few other suggestions.
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4-Working rss.(i dont know maybe i couldnt figured it out.)
5-This is more of a question than suggestion.Login is always a big problem to me.There should be a chance to keep logined till you log out.I use firefox and after few hours in the net i had to login again.
6-Bigger archive.I mean i couldnt find kimi ni todoke here.Which i think one of big mangas.With a deal with the release groups this is also not too hard.
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8-When i want to download a manga i had to go through few pages.There should be a way to reach the ddl's with one click.
Editheew.When i looked other posts there is like one or two suggestions.Didnt wanted to complain.Just i like this site very much.

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Live blog: Swap shop '10
Jean Lefebvre
March 03 2010 07:23AM
The Calgary Flames got the jump on the National Hockey League's annual clearout sale by making a couple of major deals before the Olympic break. What will Darryl Sutter be up to today, if anything?
Join us throughout the day for news and views (and perhaps the odd irreverent comment) about the 2010 trade deadline.
7:04 a.m. Before moving on, let's say a prayer of thanks that the Maple Leafs went ahead and moved Alexei Ponivarovsky last night instead of letting it drag into today. If the forward was still in play today, it would have subjected us to even more on-air and online references to "Poni" than we'll get now that they'll only be reviewing yesterday's move until something else of note happens today.
7:10 a.m. If James Duthie had taken even a moment to think that Craig MacTavish was immediately to his left, he may not have made that wisecrack about Matthew Barnaby's photo looking like a mugshot.
7:21 a.m. Goalies are always a fascinating component to deadline day. Tomas Vokoun is touted as the potential catch of the day and there are conflicting reports about whether the Montreal Canadiens are ready to take advantage of Jaroslav Halak's current trade value. And of course, there's all the Calgary-based clamouring for a new backup.
7:24 a.m. Breaking news from TSN — Wayne Primeau is available!
7:27 a.m. Speaking of goalies, reports out of Chicago quote Blackhawks management as saying they are NOT in the market for a netminder despite outsiders' concerns about Cristobal Huet.
7:30 a.m. OK, Flames fans. There are five-and-a-half hours left until the horn sounds. What are your realistic (or fantastic if you prefer) expectations for today?
7:38 a.m. Here we are five years into the cap area and there are still fans who miss the point about how the CBA has impacted the way trades are made. Just as an example, some Flames supporters look at yesterday's moves and say: "If Andy Sutton is worth a second-round pick then surely Cory Sarich is, no?" Well, no. Because Sarich has two more years (worth $7.2M) remaining, he's much more difficult to deal than UFA-to be Sutton.
7:44 a.m. In the wake of the big news about Wayne Primeau, here's another ex-Flame alert — Anders Eriksson (now in Phoenix) is on waivers!
7:50 a.m. You know this a deadline-obsessed world when word of Sean Bergenheim's healthy scratch and rumoured availability gets a lot of play.
7:56 a.m. Woooooooo — live interview with Luca Caputi!
8 a.m. Still five hours to go. Why does this start so early every year again?
8:05 a.m. Biding our time reading — Denver Post blog entry on the pros and cons of trading Wojtek Wolski. The Avs are a tough read heading into the deadline because they're in a playoff position but few people consider them legitimate Cup contenders.
8:08 a.m. Philly writer Tim Panaccio reporting that the Panthers want Jeff Carter in return for Tomas Vokoun.
8:13 a.m. Several media outlets are reporting that Vokoun has officially waived his no-trade clause. Presumably, that means unconditionally (i.e. not team-dependent).
8:15 a.m. Tim Panaccio says the Flyers have told the Panthers "no" on moving Carter.
8:16 a.m. Darren Dreger reporting that Sheldon Souray is willing to go to any American team but won't waive NTC for a Canadian club. Question is, how many U.S. teams want him? (EDIT: Not all American teams apparently, but 19 of the 24)
8:17 a.m. Our own Kent Wilson has heard that the Flames have acquired tweener forward Robbie Earl.
8:19 a.m. More on Earl — the Wild have recalled him from the minors, but the party line in the Twin Cities is that the move is only a hedge in case Minnesota moves a forward today.
8:21 a.m. Forget Robbie Earl. The confusion caused by a misleading tweet saying that Earl is coming to Calgary. Yes, he's coming to Calgary but only as insurance for Minnesota for tonight's game AGAINST Calgary in case the Wild trade a forward today. We now return you to your regularly scheduled speculating.
8:25 a.m. While we're talking about the Wild, Eric Belanger is touted as the most likely player to be moved today.
8:29 a.m. Ex-Flame Derek Morris on the move again — back to Phoenix. Details to come.
8:30 a.m. Late-breaking update — Flames have not acquired Robbie Earl but someone on the Calgary staff has downloaded the entire Steve Earle library from iTunes.
8:33 a.m. The Morris move brings to mind the line from old baseball catcher Bob Uecker: "They couldn't believe how bad I was the first time so they reacquired me just to make sure."
8:35 a.m. Media reports in Boston suggest the Bruins are getting only a draft pick for Morris, which may mean they're clearing cap space for a follow-up move, presumably a defenceman. UPDATE: It's a 2011 fourth-round pick to the Bruins.
8:40 a.m. TSN prefaces interview with Sidney Crosby by saying he scored one of the three biggest goals in Canadian hockey history (to go with Henderson in '72 and Lemieux in '87). That may be accurate, but it seems funny that no one ever mentions Mike Bossy's overtime goal against the Soviet Union in the 1984 Canada Cup, not even as an honourable mention.
8:48 a.m. While we're in a lull, anyone want to make any guesses as to which five American teams Sheldon Souray would not waive his NTC for?
8:51 a.m. Weak. TSN claims much of its early-show talk was centred on Canada's Eastern teams because they wanted to "give fans in Western Canada a chance to wake up." So when they finally change their focus to the West, they start with the team in Pacific time zone, which is obviously one hour behind the Mountain zone.
8:55 a.m. TSN panelists aghast about the suggestion the Canucks Pavol Demitra is available but on ther other hand, isn't this the best time to trade the oft-injured UFA-to be? After the Olympics, his value will never be higher. (UPDATE: TSN's other panel, led by Dave Hodge, is all over this point)
8:58 a.m. Leafs flip Martin Skoula to New Jersey.
9 a.m. Four hours to go — do you know know where your David Moss is?
9:04 a.m. Michael Russo reporting that Tony (Circus) Hrkac is back . . . in the AHL with the Houston Aeros. Hrkac is 43 now.
9:06 a.m. Blues are in a weird situation. Only three points out of the playoffs but they have to overtake four teams to get into the top eight. Their older players are NTC/NMC-protected and their young players are mostly untouchable. So unless they can convince someone to take Brad Boyes' contract, they may be quiet.
9:10 a.m. No surprise, Leafs get only a lower-round draft pick for Skoula. Exact round TBA.
9:18 a.m. Take a deep breath, Flames fans. TSN is almost ready to start talking in depth about your team. Whoops, not quite yet — gotta talk to Ken Holland first.
9:20 a.m. Leafs get a fifth-round pick from Jersey for Skoula.
9:21 a.m. Sportsnet's Nick Kypreos says Rangers are asking Columbus about ex-Oiler Raffi Torres.
9:25 a.m. Ex-Flame Alex Tanguay being mentioned in a lot of "likely-to-be-moved" lists. Lightning might be the most active team today.
9:30 a.m. So has everyone recovered from the Robbie Earl scare yet?
9:33 a.m. In a major upset, Atlanta is apparently close to trading defenceman Ron Hainsey. At least that's the speculation after Hainsey was called off the ice during this morning's practice. Hainsey is making $4.5M ($4.5M!) for two more seasons.
9:34 a.m. Florida-Boston deal: Dennis Seidenberg and a prospect for Byron Bitz, Craig Weller and a second-rounder. Seidenberg reunited with German Olympic teammate Marco Sturm.
9:40 a.m. This just in — TSN now says they will talk about the Flames' deadline situation during the second intermission of their Canucks-Red Wings telecast tonight.
9:44 a.m. USA Today's Kevin Allen says that even if the Lightning is seen by many as a potential big player today (the team flight to Washington is being delayed until after the deadline so that any traded players can disembark the plane) it's possible that the impending ownership change will handcuff general manager Brian Lawton.
9:46 a.m. Carolina defenceman Aaron Ward to the Ducks for ex-Hitmen goalie Justin Pogge and a fourth-rounder.
9:50 a.m. Another wince-inducing moment on the TSN panel that includes Craig MacTavish. Darren Pang taking a dig at Pierre McGuire about "doing time."
9:53 a.m. Justin Pogge — just another reminder that starring for the Canadian junior team is not necessarily an indication of future NHL success. Remember Jimmy Waite? Jamie Storr?
9:58 a.m. Radio report out of Montreal says the Canadiens will not move Halak (or Price for that matter) today. As always, the major problem with trying to move a goalie at the deadline is that only contenders with a specific need AND cap space are potential customers. That's a mighty short list, which based on the law of supply and demand makes it hard for the trading team to get fair value for their masked man.
10 a.m. Three hours to go.
10:02 a.m. For what it's worth, Panthers coach Peter DeBoer says Tomas Vokoun will be Florida's starting netminder tonight.
10:05 a.m. Bob McKenzie reports that the Oilers have claimed Nashville's Ryan Jones on waivers.
10:09 a.m. Chris Chelios clears waivers and will join the Atlanta Thrashers. Just for the fun of it, do a search for "Chris Chelios" and "Julio Franco" in Google news tomorrow morning.
10:12 a.m. From RossCreek in the comments section: "Roger Millions mentions Josh Harding could be headed to Calgary?"
10:15 a.m. Multiple sources are reporting that Carolina forward Ray Whitney is staying put. Makes sense at this late date considering a two-year contract extension was said to be a condition of waiving NTC.
10:17 a.m. TSN lists Glencross, Moss and Dawes as the Flames' potential trade bait. Sitting on the fence by listing Calgary as a buyer/seller.
10:20 a.m. More TSN gabbing about the Flames and, well, poor Daymond Langkow. He might as well put it on his tombstone — "Not a real No. 1 centre."
10:22 a.m. With Whitney allegedly off the market, the Hurricanes focus is now on Scott Walker.
10:23 a.m. "Flames have lost their identity." Thanks for chipping in, Steve Simmons. What is this, 2004?
10:25 a.m. Bob McKenzie says Caps are locking in on Scott Walker. UPDATE: Walker to Washington is official. Details TBA.
10:27 a.m. Alert! Stephane Yelle mention on TV.
10:28 a.m. Bad news for Carolina is that Walker nets only a seventh-round pick. Good news is there is no eighth round.
10:34 a.m. Report: Avs and Coyotes working on a deal that would have Peter Mueller and Wojtek Wolski as centrepieces. Phoenix prospect Kevin Porter's name also mentioned.
10:37 a.m. Instant analysis — Kent Wilson likes the potential Avs-Coyotes deal from Phoenix's standpoint. An "outright steal" in his books.
10:38 a.m. Canucks get Stastny. Yan Stastny that is. Blues get minor-league winger Pierre-Cedric Labrie (six points in 45 games for Manitoba Moose).
10:42 a.m. Deal confirmed — Mueller and Porter from Phoenix to Colorado for Wolski.
10:48 a.m. Hidden fallout of the Avs-Coyotes trade — a new city of fans and play-by-play announcers has to learn the nuances of pronouncing "Voy-tek Vol-skee."
10:52 a.m. Take it for what it's worth, but an out-of-town beat reporter says he's been told Darryl Sutter is working on a deal with an Atlantic Division team. No specifics, but word is the potential trade is "very minor." Guess that rules out reuniting Jarome Iginla with his Olympic centreman?
11 a.m. Two hours to go and Pierre-Cedric Labrie is desperately clinging to the honour of most important hyphenated name to be on the move today. Hang in there, P.C., word is the Devils have absolutely no interest in moving Pierre-Luc Leblond-Letourneau.
11:03 a.m. Blues writer Jeremy Rutherford is passing along a report that former Blues and Kings coach Andy Murray will become the new head coach of the Swiss national team.
11:08 a.m. Good question from cyberspace — does Carolina getting only a seventh-rounder for Scott Walker make it harder for other clubs to move role players for a more substantial pick?
11:11 a.m. As Kent Wilson rightly reminds me, the "minor trade with an Atlantic team" rumour comes on the heels of reports the New York Islanders have been scouting the Flames.
11:12 a.m. Despite being frequently mentioned in rumours, the Kings are supposedly perfectly happy to stand pat today. A series of lowball offers on Alexander Frolov may have cooled Dean Lombardi's desire to make a move.
11:15 a.m. Denver Post reports that Avalanche newcomer Peter Mueller will join the club in time to be in uniform against the Ducks tonight.
11:18 a.m. OilersNation writer Robin Brownlee is looking into rumours that the Rangers are sniffing around for Edmonton defenceman Tom Gilbert.
11:22 a.m. From JackBauer in the comments section: "Elliott Freidman is reporting that the Oilers are going to call up 2 defenceman from the AHL today. No word on any trades." This may tie into reports of a possible Gilbert trade.
11:26 a.m. Someone somewhere sometime today (sorry, I forget exactly who and where and when) dropped a slight Ryan Smyth comparison when discussing Oilers newcomer Ryan Jones. After seeing this photo, that makes a little more sense.
11:29 a.m. Looking forward to Vancouver columnist and conspiracy theorist Tony Gallagher's reaction to Phoenix's acquisitions of Derek Morris and Wojtek Wolski.
11:30 a.m. More fodder for Gallagher — his beloved Canucks send Mathieu Schneider to Coyotes. Also, Kings get Jeff Halpern. Also also, Canucks have sent Brad Lukowich to Manitoba.
11:36 a.m. In the wake of all their activity today, are the suprising Coyotes a legitimate contender to make a run in the playoffs?
11:41 a.m. Question from Randy Workman in the comments section: "So are the Flames done?" There are rumours that something minor is in the works but based on the magnitude of the pre-Olympic deals, nothing happening today was definitely the safer bet.
11:43 a.m. Tim Panaccio reports that the Flyers are still chasing Nashville defenceman Dan Hamhuis.
11:45 a.m. Caps get Eric Belanger from Minnesota for a second-round pick.
11:46 a.m. Details to complete earlier deal — Tampa Bay gets forward Teddy Purcell and a third-round pick from the Kings for Jeff Halpern.
11:48 a.m. From RossCreek: The FAN960's Dean Molberg reports that Calgary backup goalie Curtis McElhinney has been traded.
11:53 a.m. Hard to even begin to imagine what the motivations and consequences of trading McElhinney would be.
11:58 a.m. Even after the jettisoning of Denis Grebeshkov, Oilers d-men Steve Staios, Tom Gilbert and Sheldon Souray all being mentioned to various degrees in trade rumours.
Noon Wild (so to speak) rumour from the Saddledome — Dustin Boyd and Curtis McElhinney to Minnesota for Josh Harding and a second-round draft pick. UPDATE: TSN is saying McElhinney is actually going to Anaheim.
12:03 p.m. Sportsnet says the Flames have landed Vesa Toskala for McElhinney.
12:08 p.m. Impossible to fathom that Darryl Sutter would spend his cap cushion on a $4M backup goalie whose career has been in serious decline for several seasons. Especially since the schedule calls for only two more back-to-backs the rest of the way. There must be a follow-up move, no?
12:12 p.m. For the heck of it — Toskala's 2009-10 save percentage, .874. McElhinney's .885.
12:15 p.m. Good line from CBC's Eillotte Friedman regarding the Toskala acquisition: "Were the Maple Leafs blacked out in Calgary this year?"
12:16 p.m. Toskala is making $4M this season and is a UFA this summer.
12:23 p.m. Sportsnet says Raffi Torres is going to Buffalo.
12:25 p.m. Blue Jackets reportedly get Nathan Paetsch and a second-round pick from Buffalo for ex-Oiler Torres.
12:30 p.m. One spin on the Vesa Toskala deal. Regardless of his poor numbers with a lousy Leafs team this season, the belief is that Toskala is a better backup option than Curtis McElhinney. Part II of that scenario is that the backup could wind up being very important down the stretch because Kiprusoff is at less than peak physical and mental condition coming out of the Olympics (and after a heavy pre-Olympic workload of course).
12:35 p.m. Just 25 minutes to go, but also don't forget about the annual backlog on the trade call and the tricke of last-minute deals that get announced for about an hour after deadline.
12:40 p.m. Clarke MacArthur from Buffalo to Atlanta for two picks (third-rounder and fourth-rounder).
12:42 p.m. TSN reports Leafs will move Lee Stempniak.
12:45 p.m. Biggest surprise among teams that haven't done a thing yet today? Chicago? San Jose? Philly?
12:49 p.m. Caps re-acquire Milan (Formerly Known as the Poor Man's Zdeno Chara) Jurcina from Columbus.
12:52 p.m. Tweet from former Flames goalie coach David Marcoux: "Good luck to Curtis McElhinney now in Anaheim. A change will do you good. Ttyl buddy!"
12:53 p.m. Report: Oilers defenceman Sheldon Souray might be done for the year (and done for a potential deal before the deadline) because of post-surgery infection.
12:55 p.m. Amazing that dealt players have time to pose for photos wearing their new clubs' sweaters so that the TV networks can put up the updated images when interviewing the players by phone.
1 p.m. Deadline has passed, now what about the late-breaking deals?
1:02 p.m. Another tweet from David Marcoux: "Turek, McLennan, Sauve, Boucher, McElhinney, Joseph, were Kiprusoff's back-ups since he's been in Cgy. Tough job!"
1:03 p.m. Kings traded for the Blue Jackets' Fredrik Modin but the deal may not have been registered with the league in time.
1:06 p.m. Lee Stempniak to Phoenix for two draft picks.
1:08 p.m. Caps and 'Canes deal again — Joe Corvo to Washington for Brian Pothier.
1:09 p.m. TSN says the Modin deal to Los Angeles is official.
1:10 p.m. Hurricanes have traded ex-Flame Stephane Yelle.
1:14 p.m. Still no word on Sandbox's new club.
1:17 p.m. Canucks get defenceman Andrew Alberts from Carolina.
1:26 p.m. It's been fascinating to see Michael Peca's world-class five o'clock shadow come in over the course of TSN's trade deadline show.
1:30 p.m. Can't get over the fact that many panel experts take for granted that Dion Phaneuf will become a great defenceman.
1:31 p.m. Edmonton ships blueliner Lubomir Visnovsky to Anaheim for defenceman Ryan Whitney, who has three more years at $4M per left on his contract.
1:37 p.m. Still no confirmation that the Flames are done, which lends credence to the possibility something may still happen.
1:40 p.m. Calgary sends Dustin Boyd to Nashville for a fourth-round pick.
1:58 p.m. Looks like that's it for Calgary and I think it's safe to say these two deals aren't playing well with Flames fans. For the short term, the Flames get a couple of Vesa Toskala starts down the stretch. Long term, they lose a $530,000 backup goalie for 2010-11 and an RFA who was still under their control and gain a fourth-round pick.
2:03 p.m. TSN reports that the Oilers have sent Steve Staios to Calgary for Aaron Johnson and a third-round pick. Staios makes $2.7M next season; Johnson is a UFA. The first legitimate trade ever made between the Alberta teams.
2:08 p.m. If that third-rounder given up is a 2010 pick, the Flames may as well skip the draft this summer. Ah well, more time to prepare for those two fourth-rounders they have.
2:12 p.m. Avs reacquire Stephane Yelle.
2:15 p.m. We'll leave the last word to Steve Simmons, who really likes the Kings' acquisition of Jeff Halpern because: "He takes up time when he's on the ice."
March 03 2010, 11:38AM
So are the Flames done
From Boomer...
Sources tell me Curtis McElhinney has been traded. Don't know where...don't know that it's official but expect something soon.
Trade involving McElhinney. Per Boomer is going down.
Toskala for McElhinney via Mike Brophy/John Shannon
March 03 2010, 12:05PM
Steve simmons sounds like pierre mcguire and nobody likes pierre mcguire.
Gauranteed Moreau packed 5 XL suitcases for this road trip!! He is going to look like the FATgirl sitting at home in her prom dress because she never did get the invite!!
March 03 2010, 12:13PM
Toskola comaing back what
Toskala>McBackup. Glad Kipper will finally be able to take a night off once in a while.
What is Toskala's contract status?
March 03 2010, 12:15PM
I like this much better than Auld. If its true. Info on Tosks contract? I just looked, 4 million. BUT IT GOES AWAY AT THE END OF THE YEAR. PURE BLISS!
Furthermore, I think Peter Loubardias should be fired.
Elliotte Friedman reminds us...
Toskala/Kiprusoff played together in San Jose (although Toskala was higher on depth chart then). Both indebted to the late Warren Strelow.
Torres to Buffalo as per Sportsnet
From Boomer...
I would say to Flames fans, expect more. Seems like a lot of activity here right now.
March 03 2010, 12:34PM
please kill me.
March 03 2010, 12:52PM
Is Sutter's new plan to stock his team entirely with players who were too bad to play for the Leafs?
Larry Brooks says the Rangers are done.
Mike Russo saying the Wild are done.
McKenzie says Bruins & Hawks are done.
Garrioch says Sens are done.
Andy Strickland says Blues are done.
Tim Panaccio says Flyers are done.
@Ryan Lambert
May I
March 03 2010, 01:30PM
we keep our 16 forwards wow
1:26 p.m. It's been fascinating to see Michael Peca's world-class five o'clock shadow come in over the course of TSN's trade deadline show.
TheFourthPeriod reporting Flames trade Dustin Boyd to Nashville.
EDIT: Boomer just confirms its for a 4th(!) round pick..
March 03 2010, 01:40PM
So we get a 2nd rounder for Boyd? Most likely Edmontons.
March 03 2010, 01:42PM
Never mind has to something else not a 2nd rounder they don't have one.
March 03 2010, 01:48PM
Trading an actual NHLer who was still RFA for a minimal chance at a player isn't very good asset management. IMO. I don't know the exact percentage of 4th rounders that make the league, but I'd guess we're talking below 10%. Kinda of a waste, at least to me. Good luck to the kid in Nashville.
March 03 2010, 01:51PM
I am absolutely disgusted with the Boyd trade.
@Kent Wilson
Like seriously... they couldn't at least! get a 3rd. WTF? Shoulda been 2nd.
No 3rd now! Gone for Staios...
As per Bob McKenzie...
Edmonton trades Steve Staois to Cgy for Aaaron Johnson and a third . Done
March 03 2010, 02:08PM
Uhh...WTF is Darryl Sutter doing today? Staios for anything is a terrible trade for CGY. He's a salary dump for the Oilers.
This is abysmal.
... unless its a 2011 pick.
I woulda did Sarich for Staios... thats about it.
March 03 2010, 02:18PM
Boyd if we had to get rid of him, which I really don't like, is definitely worth more than a fourth round pick. He deserves better. last year at this time he was sent down to the farm team and now he's shipped to nashville for next to nothing.
Now we are making deals with Oilers. What is Darryl thinking?!?!?!
March 03 2010, 03:02PM
... unless its a 2011 pick.
I woulda did Sarich for Staios... thats about it.
Even Tambo isn't dumb enough to do that one. A 3.6 M hit (I think) for a 2.7 M hit? Please. Of course I thought no one was dumb enough to trade for Staios either.
Even Tambo isn't dumb enough to do that one. A 3.6 M hit (I think) for a 2.7 M hit? Please. Of course I thought no one was dumb enough to trade for Staios either.
That was kind of the point...
March 03 2010, 03:09PM
Even Tambo isn't dumb enough to do that one. A 3.6 M hit (I think) for a 2.7 M hit? Please. Of course I thought no one was dumb enough to trade for Staios either.
staios is a great defender and a class act. no doubt that we over here in edmonton are having a fire sale but it all works out in the end... for the oilers


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Little Wild Horse Canyon is among the most popular hiking spots in the San Rafael Swell. On a recent field trip to the Swell by the Bureau of Land Management, Emery County officials and ATV club representatives viewed the improvements at the trail head. The parking area has been expanded on both sides of the road and a large parking area has been cleared to accommodate many vehicles. This project has been a joint effort between the Emery County Road Department and the BLM.
Improvements have also been made to the county road leading to Little Wild Horse Canyon which have smoothed the road considerably. These improvements have been made by the Emery County Road Department.
These improvements will make the attraction of Little Wild Horse Canyon even better. Little Wild Horse can be hiked in any season, but not during rain or snowstorms. During periods of rain the area is prone to flash flooding which leads to dangerous hiking conditions. The hike generally takes four-six hours, but many hikers backpack in and spend the night along the trail. You need to bring your own food and water for a hike in the canyon. The trail makes a circle or for hikers not wishing to make the loop, they can hike in and then hike back out the same trail, this also works for hikers with young children in tow.
Little Wild Horse Canyon is the most popular hiking spot in the Swell. It is a high walled canyon with tight narrows. The hike is spectacular with every twist and turn revealing new colors and textures. The canyon is a popular spot for the photographer with the pictures changing with the light of the day. The Navajo narrows last for a mile or more.
The route goes up Little Wild Horse Canyon and after exiting the canyon it traverses the backside of the southern reef on the Behind the Reef Road to Bell Canyon where it descends back to the start. At the head of the canyon debris can be viewed which is left from the bygone mining era days and an old miners cabin also sits on a knoll.
Steve Allen has written a book called Canyoneering the San Rafael Swell which contains detailed information for hiking in and around Little Wild Horse Canyon and the San Rafael Swell.
Visitors from all around the world have hiked Little Wild Horse Canyon and not a day goes by without a hiker to the area. Emery County Sheriff Lamar Guymon said it is an area which sees a lot of use which is good for the area. "We go on probably four or five searches to the area each year. That's just part of having so many people come here. But, it's a good thing to have visitors. The improvements to the parking area will go a long way to accommodating the visitors here. There has also been a signage project recently where the BLM has installed signs at the forks in the trail to keep people headed in the right direction," said Guymon.
Dennis Willis from the Price BLM Field Office said visitors in 2004 numbered 26,000 who signed in at the trail head and probably a lot who didn't sign in. "Cars in the parking lot have been seen from all 50 states including Hawaii. Rental cars from Grand Junction and also out of Salt Lake indicate the number of people flying in to use this area. We have seen a useage increase these last few years. Improvements to the area include the expanded parking area and an enlarged outhouse. We always see cars in the parking lot. There are people in there all of the time," said Willis.


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Lucian A. Bebchuk
Harvard Law School; National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER); Centre for Economic Policy Research (CEPR) and European Corporate Governance Institute (ECGI)
Yaniv Grinstein
Cornell University - Samuel Curtis Johnson Graduate School of Management; Interdisciplinary Center (IDC) Herzliyah
Urs Peyer
INSEAD - Finance
Journal of Finance, 2010 (published as "Lucky CEOs and Lucky Directors")
Harvard Law and Economics Discussion Paper No. 566
The analysis of this paper was subsequently combined with that of our companion paper "Lucky Directors," http://ssrn.com/abstract=952239. The combined paper, titled "Lucky CEOs and Lucky Directors," is available on SSRN at http://ssrn.com/abstract=1405316 and was published at Journal of Finance, Vol. 65, No. 6, pp. 2363-2401, 2010.
We study the relation between corporate governance and opportunistic timing of CEO option grants. Investigating the incidence of lucky grants - defined as grants given at the lowest price of the month - we estimate that about 1,150 lucky grants resulted from opportunistic timing, and that 12% of firms provided one or more lucky grant due to opportunistic timing during the period 1996-2005. We find no evidence that opportunistically timed grants served as a substitute for other forms of compensation; indeed, total reported compensation from other sources was higher (relative to peer companies) in firms providing lucky grants. For any given CEO with two or more grants, grants were more likely to be lucky when they took place in months in which the potential payoffs from opportunistic timing were relatively high. Grants were also more likely when the company did not have a majority of independent directors on the board and/or the CEO had longer tenure, both factors that are associated with increased influence of the CEO on pay-setting and board decision-making. Luck was persistent, with a CEO's chance of getting a lucky grant increasing when a preceding grant was lucky as well. Finally, we find that opportunistic timing was present in each of the economy's 12 (Fama-French) industries, and we do not find evidence that it was significantly driven by industry norms and culture.
Because our analysis suggests that the existence of lucky CEO grants is a variable that can be useful to research studying firms' governance and decision-making, we make available on the website of the Harvard Program on Corporate Governance a dataset of CEO luck indicators based on our work.
Number of Pages in PDF File: 49
Keywords: Executive compensation, corporate governance, options, backdating, spring-loading, inside information, CEO, independent directors
JEL Classification: D23, G32, G38, J33, J44, K22, M14
Date posted: November 20, 2006 ; Last revised: December 9, 2010
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LOL, this thread is a good idea in theory.
I caught up with Bleach relatively recently, so I can't really compare the pacing of the current arc to that of others, but it was only when I started reading the weekly releases of Bleach that I started to feel frustrated with it. And like I said, when I went back and read everything from the fake Karakura arc on in one sitting it was kind of like "oh, yeah, I guess that wasn't so bad."


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By Brendan Conway
A look behind the numbers by Namitha Jagadeesh and Cecile Vannucci of Bloomberg News finds that the SPDR Metals & Mining ETF (XME) is reaching something of a crescendo of investor worry. One reason that's interesting: The fund's price is in a decent uptrend for the first time in months.
From the article:
Options protecting against swings in metal and mining shares cost the most in almost two years relative to U.S. equities on concern slowing demand from China and overproduction will weaken profits.
Implied volatility for three-month SPDR Metals & Mining ETF options is 2.17 times higher than for the SPDR S&P 500 ETF Trust (SPY), according to data compiled by Bloomberg on contracts with an exercise price closest to the exchange-traded funds. The gap widened to 2.34 times on April 23, the widest since July 2011.
The mining-industry ETF, which tracks companies such as Alcoa Inc. (AA) and Freeport-McMoRan Copper & Gold Inc. (FCX), has fallen 14 percent so far this year.
The economy in China, the world's largest consumer of raw materials, unexpectedly lost momentum in the first quarter and manufacturing slowed. Banks from Citigroup Inc. to UBS AG and Morgan Stanley have lowered their price forecasts for iron ore, copper and aluminum. Billionaire hedge-fund manager Stanley Druckenmiller said the rally in commodities is over.
Could investors get more bearish on this sector? Maybe, but it might take a recession. Just listen to the following:
Citigroup said last month it expects "death bells" to ring for commodities, and it lowered its forecasts for copper and aluminum prices. Zurich-based UBS cut projections for copper, aluminum, nickel and zinc, while Morgan Stanley lowered its estimate for iron ore. Credit Suisse Group AG said May 8 that aluminum prices might drop in the coming weeks, and Macquarie Group Ltd. lowered its 2014 prediction for copper.
Implied volatility for three-month contracts on the metals and miners ETF rose 21 percent since its February low to 28.12 at the end of last week, according to data compiled by Bloomberg based on options with an exercise price closest to the ETF.
During that time, the measure for contracts on the S&P 500 fund advanced 5.8 percent to 13.
The decline in metals and mining stocks has pushed their valuation to an attractive level, according to Guy Foster, London-based head of portfolio strategy at Brewin Dolphin Securities Ltd. The MSCI World Materials Index trades at 14.1 times estimated earnings, down from a high of 29.3 in September 2009, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. That compares with 14.5 times for the broader MSCI World gauge.


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Game Preview: Maple Leafs at Canadiens
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November 20 2010 01:58PM
7-8-3, 17 points
12-6-1, 25 points
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14.9%, 22nd
76.3%, 28th
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The Toronto Maple Leafs travel to Montreal to take on the Canadiens in the NHL's 50,000th game. They also met in the first NHL game ever. That's some crazy symmetry. There are a number of incredible stats that have come out of the first 49,999 games. But there's really only one thing on the minds of the fans of both franchises: the sad passing of Pat Burns, a former coach of both teams. He was one of only two men to ever take the helm behind the bench for both clubs.
There's not much more to say that hasn't been said by people that knew Pat Burns better than most of us ever could hope to. While it's terrible to lose a man like Burns, it's great to know that his example will live on. Hockey Night in Canada will be especially powerful tonight.
In terms of the game on the ice, the Leafs will be looking to continue their two-game winning streak. The criticism is that they've beaten a couple of struggling teams but at the end of the day you can only beat the team in front of you. The Leafs won the first match-up this year on opening night 3-2. The Leafs' dads will be with them so hopefully it will inspire them to overcome a good Canadiens team including Carey Price who sports a 2.11GAA and .928sv%. Jonas Gustavsson will have to pick up where he left off on Tuesday when he stopped 29 of 30 shots.
The special teams matchup will be interesting. Wilson's move to put Kris Versteeg on the point as led to a resurgent powerplay. It helps that they've had a lot of practice (and 5-on-3s!) so the league's # 1 ranked penalty kill will be a good test. The other interesting aspect will be the two club's prize rookies. Will PK Subban do something disrespectful (at least if you're Mike Richards) or will he do something ridiculous (like that stupid tongue wag or when he hit a forechecker into the net when he was being chased...actually, that was cool)? Will Nazem Kadri get his first NHL goal against the team that his family used to root for? All those questions will be answered and more tonight. Same HNiC channel, same HNiC time.


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Type: Bug
Status: Closed
Priority: Major
Resolution: Duplicate
Affects Version/s: 2.0, 2.3
Fix Version/s: None
Component/s: HTML Editor (TinyMCE), Usability
Affected Branches:MOODLE_20_STABLE, MOODLE_23_STABLE
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Attached: TinyMCE init code that will produce the editor in the screenshot. Note that this change does not require changing the code of TinyMCE but just of the JS code that calls TinyMCE.
Still required: Integration as Moodle default. I could not find out how to do this.
The goal of this change is to reduce the three row toolbar in TinyMCE to two rows, making it resemble the legacy HTMLarea more. There are two reasons for this:
- the HTMLarea toolbar design seems to have seemingly good defaults for everyday use, and
- since users in 1.9 are used to it, there is no risk in keeping the same toolbar (= WOW. for once we actually know what many users will expect).
On the other hand, the TinyMCE default of three rows is really a usability disaster.
I did regroup the buttons a bit from what they are in HTMLarea, to have related items grouped together and unrelated ones separated - and to accommodate the elements that were removed or replaced.
Removed vs. the TinyMCE in Moodle HEAD atm:
- The style menu that was broken
- citation,abbreviation,acronym
- select all - there is a quite ubiquitous shortcut key ctrl+a and this can be emulated with the mouse too
- preview (this should be provided by Moodle and not within TinyMCE - perhaps as a quick javascript like TinyMCE does now, or just a plain old slow preview POST button - if the content of the form is more complex than one editor, Moodle can preview the result of all the fields in a composite preview, whereas TinyMCE can only show the preview of that one rich field, which is kind of pointless since it is a WYSIWYG editor anyway)
- visual control characters on/off
- edit css style
- insert new layer (the layer created is positioned absolutely so there is usually no way for the user to know where on the page the layer will end...)
- insert/edit embedded media
- create anchor
- insert/edit embedded media (removed due to lack of space, can perhaps be put back)
Removed vs. HTMLarea
- Clean Word HTML (paste from word is there though)
- Lang menu (was not in tinymce full featured),
- fullscreen
- Justify both left and right - rarely needed and often considered harmful for legibility for reading onscreen
Added vs. HTMLarea
- remove formatting
- cut,copy,paste,paste word, paste plain text
- cleanup messy formatting
- non-breaking space - according to Joseph Rézeau http://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=130470#p570242 , required by the French
- find
Instead of the popup window in HTMLarea, fullscreen in TinyMCE takes up the entire viewport for the rich text editor.
Was there an equation editor? Where has that gone?
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MDL-19611 Restore buttons that were lost in the tinymce upgrade
- Closed
- duplicates
MDL-35172 Rework custom TinyMCE toolbar setting
- Closed
- has a non-specific relationship to
MDL-33041 TinyMCE: Support custom plugins
- Closed
- has been marked as being related by
MDL-27761 Support for html anchor tags in 20_STABLE
- Closed
- is blocked by
MDL-19611 Restore buttons that were lost in the tinymce upgrade
- Closed
- is duplicated by
MDL-30587 Interface for enabling TinyMCE plugins and buttons
- Closed
- will help resolve
MDL-26954 TinyMce no horizontal rule icon
- Closed
MDL-28527 Check if TinyMCE issues are resolved by upgrade
- Closed
MDL-30587 Interface for enabling TinyMCE plugins and buttons
- Closed
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- Prevent automatic linking / moodlenolink.desc: realized what this is for, so adding it back.
Finally found how this is done in Moodle so here is a patch after all. For fun, sort of.
I put back the prevent linking and embedded media thingies, and since the theme used by default in moodle uses less space apparently, this is still pretty much as wide as the old HTMLarea. hm, are the buttons much smaller...?
I would consider using: use_native_selects : true
It is being recommended at http://tinymce.moxiecode.com/examples/example_17.php as an accessible option.
First ideas that came to my mind when I read your list - please read the following 14 comments before you change TinyMCE back to clone of HTMLArea.
1) People don't expect to get new HTMLAREA in moodle 2.0 - they expect to get a new and better editor, TinyMCE, with new features and some new buttons and plugins.
2) It might be better to create 2-5 different basic configurations instead of one default configuration. Integration of editor is fully pluggable so we can simply create different init code (editor profiles), for example
a) SIMPLE - maybe a little advanced anyway...
b) OLDSTYLE - for those people who want to live in nostalgia of HTMLArea and have 2 rows of buttons
c) FULL - all allowed buttons
and I will of course create to my own tinymce
d) CUSTOM - with all kinds of non core plugins and
e) KIDS - test version for kids with totally different theme and buttons
3) We need and can use a different configuration for FULL SCREEN EDITOR with
fullscreen_settings :{ ... }
and at least table controls must be added to full scren editor to the 3rd row if you want to use HTMLAREA-TinyMCE. Table controls are in full screen mode of HTMLArea as well
Some people may also want to open full screen editor in a new window and it can be done (if needed) with
fullscreen_new_window : true,
4) Style menu is not actually broken - we just need to give those styles either with theme_advanced_styles : ... in init code or directly in content_css file (note: css file!) .
In moodle 2.0 Petr has set this with
$contentcss = $CFG->themewww.'/'.current_theme().'/styles.php'; // should be customizable
which means that we should give the style classes in current theme styles.php but for example standard theme styels.php does not have any styles defined in the file itself.
If you change that line for example to
$contentcss = $CFG->themewww.'/'.current_theme().'/styles_layout.css';
and refresh your tinymce you should see quite many styles from styles_layout.css in styles menu.
5) Removing "Select all" button is not always clear - all people don't know keyboard shortcuts and if you have for example spans in your editor content you may not be able to select all content with mouse... in editor mode.
6) On my test site I am using a modified Preview plugin that renders mathematical notations WYSIWYG before I save them - because TinyMCE is not any wiser than HTMLArea to render TeX or asciimathML without extra code in extra plugins. The basic version is rather useless like you said
7) Plugin "Style" (edit css style) adds CSS style editing support to TinyMCE, this will enable you to edit almost any CSS style property in a visual way. It's the most useful plugin for such people who use css ( span style="..." ) because all XHTML classes are properly given in tabs for different elements.
8) Media plugin (QuickTime, Flash, ShockWave, RealPlayer and Windows Media Player) would be one of the most useful and wanted plugins for teachers but Petr has some concerns http://tracker.moodle.org/browse/MDL-19611
9) Cut,copy and paste buttons should not be added - to protect users' private information, unprivileged scripts cannot invoke the Cut, Copy, and Paste commands. Editor blocks itself unless you use keyboard shortcuts.
10) Why should we use hr when we have the advanced plugin "advhr" that supports noshade, width and size for hr ?
11) Either Find or Find-Replace plugin but not both...they have the same tabs in different order. I might choose Find plugin.
12) Dragmath - http://tracker.moodle.org/browse/MDL-19544
I will never disable this in my custom configuration...
13) Spellchecker is useful and easy to use
One correction to my comment 11)
The name of that plugin is of course "searchreplace" and it has two buttons - "search" and "replace" - and I might choose the first option, "search"
One thing is also true - we can't make too sweeping generalizations about expectations that different people may have...
Some people have used moodle but don't know about new features of moodle 2.0 or tinymce and they may expect to see similar moodle as before.
Some people have used moodle or tinymce and know about new features of moodle 2.0 or normal features of tinymce and they may expect to see new moodle with new features or normal tinymce and may even get disappointed when everything looks the same as before or tinymce does not look the same as they expected.
Some people have never seen moodle or tinymce and don't know what to expect.
Which leads again to docs, guiding and other helper systems. For teachers a short training about new features of moodle 2.0 is a must...might be good to have similar training or guides for students as well... but moodle 2.0 is still so unstable (untested by "normal users") that even most administrators don't know about new features...and what to expect.
Just a quick note – if anyone wants to bring the "show advanced toolbar" button plugin for tinymce to moodle, here is the plugin wordpress has made for it. Apparently no need to hack tinymce core:
Mauno – thanks for the discussion in the forum thread. I haven't gotten around to looking at your latest comments yet (my employed period is over for now officially) but I will respond you in time - actually in quite a few threads you have responded me, I think.
These may serve as UIs for customizing the editor per-moodle installation or maybe even per-user in some cases.
Thanks Olli,
we really have several ways to make those customized settings without touching core code of moodle at all - additional (pluggable) editors that can be changed from administration menu already (by administrator site wide), theme based integrations that can override settings of default editor (works if this special theme is selected and I have used these several years), plugins that can override settings of site editor if needed (for example different plugins that are rendered according to different capabilities) but I would like to go further and allow some user selection based settings.
If we have an option to rewrite user profiles (sometimes in the future) to make the current user profile fields better organized, better selectable and themable we could as well at the same time add a tab for "Skins and buttons" where users could change some basic settings and selections for custom editor - teachers could show or hide there such plugins they need in everyday use or kids could change the style of their profle as a part of kids learning environment and make some simple skin selections (Pink Piggies or Masters of Moodleworld...)
If we want to separate settings for different editors we could currently use new filters with filtersettings.php to add administration of custom editors to administration menu (to Filters menu unfortinately...) and use any selectable variables in our custom editors we want together with custom filters. Or editors could have settings.php for administration like modules and also themes are going to have.
Personally I will test first some init code and plugin based options inside and outside the actual editor - they don't require any changes to any core files of moodle or tinymce - I can use both plugins and init code for these tests and if I find some good ways to show or hide some button groups directly from editor I will report about them to Petr and ask his opinion. This way we could actually allow users to use all plugins but they could be organized under some groups (buttons or even tabs) so that users would see first only the simple default editor but could select more advanced features with one button click - that's how most programs and browsers give those advanced features...
Creating a site wide administration for editors is a big issue and our first task is to get the default editor as functional as we can - to check all possible settings
A new suggestion here:
Petr, I thought that you might be the right person to assign to, being the original creator of lib/editor/tinymce/lib.php
Because of the sprint, I decided to get this change that I most wanted to finish from last summer, into CVS.
Petr, This has been discussed plenty in August, and I feel safe I have now listened to everybody's views sufficiently for this to be justified. Largely a similar set of buttons as in Moodle 1.9/HTMLarea. As noted by Mauno, it would be great to have further user-level (and depending on which context the editor is) flexibility on what controls show up in the editor, but this is probably the best compromise we can get for now. I advice to commit this change now to avoid the worse disaster of having three rows of buttons. When discussion proceeds further and we may get actual research on how much the controls are used, we can make further adjustments.
Non-visible buttons, apparently to lack of TinyMCE module loading (that I reserved space for and that were and still are in the code): {$xdragmath} and spellchecker.
Mauno, My apologies for coming to this so late. I simply ran out of time last summer so I could not continue the discussion. I have finally gone through all your comments. Thank you, Mauno, for all your hard work on this. I must admit I could not appreciate all your discussion last summer since it seemed to mean that the basic goal of simply getting rid of the extra buttons (that ended up in Moodle as a byproduct of getting TinyMCE) would not be reached.
No, I do not want to prevent optional buttons or restrict anybody's choice. Just the reality is that I do not know who is going to implement that flexibility at the moment. But we need to start somewhere. We can determine a reasonable default, although we do not have much data. This is much better than the three rows in any case, I have understood we agree on that much, and unless we do something now, we will have those three rows in Moodle 2.0 since it will be released soon enough.
The main focus in my last summer's work was to generate some guidelines, using which we could improve Moodle's future usability. I do not want to stick to the past just for the sake of it. However, the reason I want to keep the old configuration in HTMLarea is twofold:
1) Everybody seems to agree the current config of TinyMCE we have is a nightmare. There is no reason related to the users for the change from between the button set in 1.9 (which happens to be HTMLarea) to the button set in current 2.0.
2) If we want to develop the toolbar's usability, that requires research into the different contexts people use the editor in, that is: getting data about what is actually being used, and when. We do not have time for that.
3) The option of no risk in terms of user expectations is to change the toolbar as little as possible, since that is what users are used to. This does not mean no addition of new features, but the old one should at least be the starting point for consideration.
Now that I could finally snatch some time for reading what you wrote, I love your reasoning about users. You are at the core of user centered thinking, and I love the way you want to make Moodle inclusive to all user groups. Trust me, ultimately we are going in the very same direction with this. (A basic rule, though, is that users typically can not tell you what they need: you have to find out what they actually do, which is usually not the same. So techniques such as examining server log statistics [this we could in theory do on Moodle.org though not on remote Moodle installations?], ethnographies and usability tests help gain actual data.)
At the end of the day, the discussion about flexibility and providing for various uses, comes to the key vision about Moodle. This has not been defined in a sufficient granularity to allow basing decisions like this on it. Ultimately, user-centered design methods could help identify the 80% we should be designing for primarily, while accommodating the rest in a less obvious way so that exotic features don't get in the way of the application's main usage. We are not there yet. Still, I believe the default should be so simple that it does not daunt the non-techies that Moodle is supposed to be made for, to start with.
I removed paste (which works on virtually no browsers) and paste as plain text to make room for spell checking, dragmath (the button is not there though it is in the code), moodle media, moodle nolink, and paintweb. Cut/copy work fine in Chrome and I suspect others with the Webkit rendering engine.
It feels pretty stupid to try to limit the toolbar width as the columns are so wide now that the editor will produce horizontal scrolling on a 1024x768 display anyway . Definitely hope that is going to be fixed before release!
The current TinyMCE in Moodle 2.0 is more narrow though than HTMLarea was in 1.9 - but not narrow enough to avoid horizontal scrolling.
There was no spell check included, and the only module loaded was iespell, and I did not add spell check for now. Hope to have it added though but it needs to be decided which of the methods is used and the appropriate module loaded http://wiki.moxiecode.com/index.php/TinyMCE:Plugins/spellchecker . I also hope to have PaintWeb in the toolbar next to the add image button, once it gets confirmed that it will be included.
The table controls now form the third row in full screen, as you requested Mauno, and as it apparently is in HTMLarea, too. I am not sure if this is a good idea but for now, let us keep consistent with 1.9.
I would have perhaps removed "Find" but that was the more recognizable of that and Find/Replace, which has a completely nonstandard icon. Can't hide find/replace functionality, either, so this is how it will have to stay.
(To have it documented somewhere clearly
Changes since HTMLarea:
Buttons removed: justify, anchor
Buttons moved to another row:
- To upper row: show source, search, replace
- To lower row: subscript, superscript (related to formatting of small amounts of text like bold,italics, etc.)
You could switch them back to where they were in HTMLarea, but then you would need to take two buttons up and three buttons down, so the so lower row would have at least two buttons more than the upper row, with the create image (xdragmath too I guess) coming later and also belonging to the lower row.
Buttons added: Cut, copy, paste from word, remove formatting, add video, non-breaking space (plus xdragmath, create image later)
Changes since TinyMCE in current Moodle 2.0:
Removed: Citation, style menu, abbreviation, acronym, select all, paste, paste as text, anchor, insert new layer, edit css style, visual control characters on/off, preview
Replaced: hr with advhr
Just a random note: While considering the usage scenario of a forum discussion, I do gather that blockquotes are one strong candidate for addition to the default toolbar - their usage adds semantics to the posts. On the other hand, it is hard to say how many users actually would come to use blockquotes and how much they would actually benefit from them, as the same purpose is - to a debatable degree - served by just using quotes. If someone really misses having blockquotes, they may be probable to know enough html to insert them by hand...
Another thing - I really believe we should use a theme that is less of a distraction to the eye, like the default skin or even the black variant of the current 02k7 theme seems better imho - of course I have not had any resources to actually research this since that would require an eye tracker I guess, but as there are so many non-functional lines in the current theme that are absent in the default, it is probably lighter to scan through the buttons on skins that do not have borders everywhere.
default: http://tinymce.moxiecode.com/examples/full.php
02k7 black variant: http://tinymce.moxiecode.com/examples/skins.php
If required, Petr I can change the patch for you, but I guess the change is simple enough.
Do you think you can still squeeze this into Moodle 2.0? I believe it is critical for the user experience to not have the massive toolbars to slow users down everywhere. The fix here is a no-brainer for me in terms of risks, the change from Moodle 1.9 being minimal, mostly just avoiding the disaster caused by using the defaults of TinyMCE.
Let me know if there is anything I can do to help get this in, including submitting the patch to CVS myself (which would require allowing me to access to the relevant file in CVS - currently I can only access /mod/quiz and some other parts).
Thanks. No pressure though if you simply can't make it.
Hi, thanks for pinging me, I have removed these icons.
I am not sure the two line layout will fit everywhere, going to test it tomorrow.
Hmmm, maybe we could still add some configuration option so that admins may decide what to include there, I am afraid that no other solution can be perfect here...
hehe, I hope nobody is going to notice the missing icons, it would be a good argument for their removal....
+ 100 for the administration of buttons.
In my math editor version I have a fully functional pdw plugin - based on TinyMCE Wordpress plugin (Kitchen Sink) and originally modified by Guido Neele.
That plugin could be used for example to show customizable plugins / rarely used buttons on the 3rd row - do you want to test that pdw plugin?
See that attached screenshot of Kitchen sink plugin.jpg (I have those extra math plugins there on the 2nd row and rarely used plugins on the 3rd row)
And in addition to such button switches like pdw plugin we have also those full screen mode settings so if some buttons don't fit to 2 or 3 rows they will certainly fit to 4 full length rows in full screen mode or more than one editor configuration for various situations (small screens like 640px wide may have real problems to fit tinymce and some themes have cut part of tinymce for example - there was some post about such issues on forums). Administration of buttons is one key of solutions, flexible layout / init code according to scren resolution might be another (tinymce is using javascript anyway so javascript could be used to detect screen resolution and use 4 rows of buttons for small screens instead of 2 or 3 rows)
No doubt - EVERYBODY will notice those missing buttons ...
Yay, happy that you decided to tackle this Petr
Petr, indeed there was a lot of discussion also with Mauno last year's summer/autumn about the fact that it would be great to be able to customize the options available, by admin and also on a per-user basis. In addition, it varies a lot on the usage context which buttons are required: in some situations (input of short labels) plain text formatting options are sufficient (font,size,bold,italics,link,list,indent), whereas in others full "document management" options are needed. So different editors for being available for different contexts would probably help in situations where the two-row editor is too large.
However, the kitchen sink plugin is also an useful addition - in wordpress, a similar approach is used to switch from one-row mode to two-row mode (although they also have an always-visible additional element for adding media and switching to source view above the first row). Can't remember where that discussion was left earlier Mauno but great that you brought it up again.
Making full screen mode have full four rows of buttons seems a bit of a strange design decision to me though - I understand that it would be a chance to have all the buttons you require Mauno at least somewhere, but imho the selection of the set of buttons should be independent of full screen mode.
Admittedly the bulk of buttons do not take room in normal view when they are only in full screen mode. However, the reason I think it is critical to reduce the number of buttons is not primarily the room they take, but the cognitive overhead they impose on less technically oriented users (even if even I find it annoying, it does not slow me down - much - since I have learnt the meaning of most those icons along the years). I saw it in several usability tests: people get really frustrated when seeing a pile of icons, among which have to one by one browse to see the tooltips, since they do not know the meanings of many of the icons. Ultimately, if I recall correctly, some were even ready to give up the task of adding a simple image from the desktop at this point, since finding the functionality in the first place was too frustrating.
And yes, it would be great if the button rows would wrap when they don't fit on the screen.
In fact, with the current theme of qa.moodle.org, even the current three row editor does not fit at 1024x768, let alone the suggestion here which makes the rows a bit longer. As the buttons should still fit in the space provided, it is actually critical that TinyMce adjust to the space available. Even if three rows is rather intensive, it is still better to have those three rows with the extra buttons removed, than it is to have the three very filled rows currently visible at qa.moodle.net.
as per this discussion, it seems that it would be possible to make the buttons be on one big row, and then just have float:left CSS to have the row wrap to multiple rows depending on space available. (or perhaps display:inline?)
This user preference switcher on my demo site is a little clumsy but you can get the idea from Editor switcher sreenshot. I have been testing different kinds of user preferences there and therefore used "Change your user preferences" link - core toolbar switchers can be simple buttons or menus etc
Well that Full screen mode with full 4 rows of buttons was partly a joke...
In practise people have very few custom plugins - but on small screens full screen is not so wide after all.
Mobile devices may have from 320 to 640px space (or maximum 960px) and even if 96% of current PC screen resolutions are wider than 1024x768 px some small screen laptops have a permanent problem to use editor with any theme of core moodle.
And since moodle 2 does not yet fully support mobile devices (themes, editor...) this screen resolution problem is not so urgent yet - still it is good to keep it in memory for the next release of moodle (2.1?) ...
there are plenty netbooks etc around, and the iPad of course and following tablets. even I was using a ~5 year old thinkpad laptop just 2 months ago that had max 1024x768. so i believe official support for 1024x768 is the absolute minimum for years to come.
found statistics for techie site users, which probably means that the percentages for higher resolutions are higher here than on more mainstream sites, as mentioned on the page itself: http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_display.asp
The buttons of Petr's current version in CVS actually do fit in layout of 1024 x 768 (buttons in 3 rows) and they fit even to 960px screens with minimal cut - and not anymore to 800 x 600 px screen layouts where right blocks (or on rtl languages left blocks) start cutting part of buttons on most themes. On the other hand toolbar on wide screens has extra space on the left side of buttons.
But that's partly a layout / theme design problem. Attached an example ("custom theme with 800 x 600 px screen") from my test site with Petr's current buttons on my custom theme that is placing all blocks to the left - in fact themes should take care that if screen resolution is small moodle should not use 3 column layouts at all.
One correction - I should have said: "On the other hand toolbar on wide screens has extra space on the right side of buttons"
( but there is of course pleanty of empty space also on the left side of editor if small screen layouts would not place titles like "Subject" and "Message" to the left side but over editor... )
Lot's of things could be done differently on small screens - eventually
Thanks Petr for the changes so far. Realizing that we still need to limit the width, keeping it three-row seems a great idea to me, too. Why didn't I think that far myself? .
Anyhow, having realized that, I do believe that the most obvious and commonly used elements in the toolbar should still be the most prominent ones. This is a slippery slope and very subjective I know, but I believe we can make a civilized guess based on what is the best known to users by looking at what is available elsewhere most commonly.
So I am attaching such a guess (2010-10-18 moodle 3-row tinymce suggestion.png): what now shows at qa.moodle.net, but with reordered buttons. I did this with a bitmap editor but I can create it as a patch too, if you wish.
I believe ordering the buttons such that the most well known are first is beneficial in any case. However, I still believe that we need to add the kitchen sink plugin (that basically introduces progressive disclosure to the UI). Then we would have a maximum of two rows by default, even at the current width. Notice that there is now room for one more button in second row, while still keeping the width? That's the spot for the "show 3rd row" button.
If I can help by making the patch for all this that you can just apply, just let me know.
Links to two versions of the kitchen sink plugin.
The first one comes along with another skin that makes would seem to make the visual appearance considerably less fixation-intensive, and thus quicker for the eye to scan than the current one in use in Moodle.
I take it this latter one is the one you are using, Mauno?
(Sorry for the comment spam, again...)
I am using in my modified math plugin editor init code this attached Guido Neele's version without jQuery (pdw.zip) - I suppose it was that Example 5 in your link, Olli.
I have added pdw to plugins row (in editor init code /lib.php) with
'plugins' => "{$xmedia}pdw,...
to the 1st row of buttons with
'theme_advanced_buttons1' => "pdw_toggle,fontselect,...
and before spellchecker code
'pdw_toggle_on' => "1",
'pdw_toggle_toolbars' => "3",
'spellchecker_rpc_url' => ...
which shows two first toolbar rows by default and toggles 3rd row with kitchen sink button.
1/ my personal preference is to have just one line by default and expand it to 3 lines after some click
2/ the configuration settings for each row should be pretty simple, working on that right now - hopefully this will help with adding of extra plugins too
3/ I think it is important to put the "FUll screen" button to the left instead of right, because you need it most when the right side not there due to screen smallness, right?
4/ I agree that the minimum supported should be 1024x600 because there are too many netbooks around (I gave one to my girl friend too...)
5/ I agree it might be good to reorder the buttons
I am going to ask Martin what he thinks about the 1 x 3 line switching and then we could commit the changes into CVS.
Damn and blast!!!!
You dropped out two of my favourite plugins, Olli...
Dragmath and Style plugin.
I know that you have never used style plugin so attached a screenshot about styles that you can modyfy for each and every element that supports style="..."
And Dragmath is one of the most wished plugins - the only math plugin we have in core now. I could drop two lines of other less useful plugins
Petr & Olli,
attached one more screenshot "Must-have-buttons".
In my opinion most people need font family and font size menus and bold, italics, underline, text foreground and background colors, insert image and insert link buttons. And obviously first toolbar row needs full screen mode button + probably kitchen sink button...
Then we have buttons that very many people use: HTML (code), lists, alignment, intend, strikethrough, subscript and supscript, insert tables or media, paste from Word, undo, unlink and spellchecker.
Finally we have lots of buttons that some people need all the time but some people never use: paragraph, non-breaking spaces, insert characters, cleanup, rtl/ltr, search/search-replace, insert text, redo, dragmath, style (styleprops), moodlenolink and a few custom plugins that are not in core moodle. All the buttons on the 3rd row could be optional in default init code (selectable from administration menu / editor settings) - still kitchen sink button is not a must-have-button. For human eye it does not matter a lot if there are 2 or 3 rows in toolbar.
Personally I prefer such solutions where the whole editor can be changed with one switch either with (yui) user preferences, screen resolution detection or theme files and $CFG->texteditors as an essential part of theme - it is not a big problem to create separate init code for mobile phones if those ipods and ipads (Apple) start to support editors like tinymce some day or screen widths less than 1024px/960px/800px. The new pluggable editor code that Petr has implemented is the best new feature in moodle 2 and even if we now try to find only one default code for all users it might be cood to have more than one options in the future...
Font family and Font size makes me sick every time I see it, I would personally vote to switch these with the "Paragraph,heading,.." selector.
I understand your point Petr but if you think about other most common text editing tools like MS Word - typical users seldom use css or otherwise pre-defined styles, they simply want to change font family (fonts) and size of font for their texts - and color & text effects.
And one more important button is missing - that Emotions/Emoticons/Smileys button
When we are talking about those useful buttons vs needless buttons I would still rename two buttons needless - search and replace - honestly.
If you write a couple of rows in editor how often do you need to find some word from your editor screen - and replace it. I could somehow understand one of these plugins (they have the same tabs but those two tabs are opened in different order by default) - buth both of them - why???
On the other hand in every suggestion Olli has made in forums and here in tracker he drops Style plugin (styleprops in buttons) which is the most advanced plugin of all tinymce plugins - a real hidden pearl...
It's just a question of opinions - some people want to use plain textarea and code, some want to use simple theme with simple tools and some want to use all the tools they find useful.
Good to see this going forward.
Unfortunately I am in a flu and occupied by my current job, so can't promise taking part in this discussion much more. But I do trust your judgement on this already based on the discussion so far.
Just happy to see this getting done. Thanks guys.
I am waiting for Martin to return from his world tour, thanks for all the valuable ideas and feedback.
Thanks everyone for your comments. Hopefully Martin will be able to comment soon...
Ping! Feedback about this needed, Martin. Feel free to comment / triage / whatever.
Is it possible to remove button all together from TINY MCE? For instant, I just want my learners to have insert image, text colour changer and spellchecker available to them.
I would like to emphasize the important of Mauno Korpelainen suggestion:
7) Plugin "Style" (edit css style) adds CSS style editing support to TinyMCE, this will enable you to edit almost any CSS style property in a visual way. It's the most useful plugin for such people who use css ( span style="..." ) because all XHTML classes are properly given in tabs for different elements.
The Style plugin seems to be present, but not visually available, seems like a bug
Anyone care to comment on this?
I'm taking the liberty of renaming the bug to make it clearer what needs to be done. This functionality was available in Moodle 1.9, and we lost it with the move to TinyMCE Moodle 2.0. If no one else does this for Moodle 2.4, I guess I will, because we need this at the OU.
Linking to the work done by Sam and Petr to support custom plugins
I have a list of HTMLAREA plugins i am waiting to integrate into TinyMCE


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THP says Osburn was killed from the original crash and not the secondary crash.
The driver of the Camry, 81 year old Dennis Dawson of Beckley, West Virginia, died at Bristol Regional Medical Center around 2 a.m. Sunday.
The passenger in the Camry was Dawson's wife, 75-year-old Connie Dawson. We're told she is still in the hospital in critical condition.
Both north and southbound lanes were shut down for several hours after the accident but were reopened around 3 a.m. Sunday.


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This is totally worth watching. I saw it a couple of days ago. Prince Oberyn almost catching on fire, Cersei losing it, Dani cursing, and the final scene (no spoiler) were all GoT fan-worthy. 😀
The Sand Snakes have been cast for next season!ReplyCancel
How did you know I just got hooked on GOT? Stop stalking me, Enty!!!
One more for you GoT lovers (spoiler if you haven't watched through season 3):
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That's my mate Ross falling off the horse!ReplyCancel
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Love Joffre Jaime Cersei khalesei and Tyrion
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