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Trade Most Likely Path to Offense
Kent Wilson
June 29 2010 10:59AM
If there's any consensus about the Flames current situation, it's that the club lacks offense. Let's be more specific and say that the lacks club high-end difference makers, especially with the way Iginla struggled to take on the big boys last year. While I'm actually fairly high on some of the Flames depth guys (Glencross, Moss, Dawes, Hagman) the fact of the matter is, the club doesn't currently possess a top 6 that will contend with the better teams in the league.
Stajan, Langkow, Iginla, Bourque and (other) can get things going versus the lower end, but are a good bet to struggle against the Datsyuks, Crosbys and Toews of the world. In addition, Calgary's collection of PP-capable forwards is modest, to say the least.
On top of the Flames already well publicizied cap constraints, the unfortunate truth of the matter is the UFA pool this summer is extremely shallow. Gone are Patrick Marleau and Thomas Plekanec, recently re-signed by their respective clubs. The lone, available superstar forward won't be worth the contract he lands. So even if Calgary had all the cap room in the world this off-season, there's a chance it wouldn't put much of a dent in their need for a big cannon.
Which is why a trade for a flashy name isn't out of the question. Guys like Spezza and Savard are being publically shopped as we speak and both would provide the sort of high-end offensive abilities the team currently lacks. Savard is older and coming off a severe concussion, but he's also $3 million cheaper than Spezza and has a solid history of out-playing tough competition. Savard is 32 years old and his contract technically extends to 2017.
However, with the final three seasons paying out at 1.5M, .525M and .525M respectively, the truth is Savard could retire as early as 2014 and not lose out on any significant salary. In effect, it's a $6.5M contract structured so the cap hit comes in at much more budget friendly $4M.
Jason Spezza is a tougher sell. Naturally gifted with more than a few years of elite production behind him, Spezza is younger and didn't have his brains recently scrambled, but does come with a much larger cap hit and other question marks. Spezza doen't have great possession stats on his side, but has indeed played tougher competition in OTT for years and put up some noteworthy numbers.
That said, he's also played with great players during his career as a Senator, including Alfredsson, who has been a heavy lifter since forever. That muddies the waters somewhat given we can't be terribly sure Spezza's the guy driving the bus in OTT. He's also not the hardest guy to play against and is prone to the odd neutral zone gaffe. As such, his $7M/year contract isn't a trivial risk, especially given the Flames constant fight to stay under th cap ceiling.
Of course, as with all trade talk, the viability of the deal from a Flames perspective swings on who they have to give up to make it work. A centerpiece guy like, say, Robyn Regehr would likely have to be involved in a Spezza deal. The Bruins would be more interested in shedding salary, so someone of value but lesser dollars would have to be in the equation there (Ian White? Mark Giordano?).
The Flames don't have a lot of quality players who are good bets to outperform their contracts, so any talk of throwing in Giordano or Dawes should be met with skepticism. On the back-end, the Flames are 8 NHL defenders deep with the likes of Matt Pelech looking to make the leap. If there's anywhere the org can potentially lose some quality and survive, it's there. Naturally, the Phaneuf deal was kinda, sorta Sutter's foray into that territory already, but unfortunately it only yielded capable depth players.
So, Flames fans...does Regehr + make sense for Jason Spezza? Would you move White + for Mark Savard? Because something similar may be the only way Sutter can firm up the team's greatest area of weakness this summer.
I think Spezza would be a great fit on the Flames, he has shown that he can have success with a similar player to Iginla in Dany Heatly. It would be a tricky deal in terms of the cap, both teams are in some cap trouble. I think if i'm Ottawa, I would want more than Regher in the deal, I would want to replace some of the scoring that Spezza provides. Someone like Rene Bourque. Obviously we wouldnt want to give him up, but you have to put yourselves in their shoes.
The only issue with Savard is the recent concussion, but otherwise he's a great player, and makes everyone around him better. Spezza on the other hand has always played with great players, as you pointed out Kent. I worry that Iginla isn't at the same level as he once was and that would make the Spezza trade a potential disaster especially considering the aforementioned possession problems, combined with Iginla's new found possession problems. Savard could make Iginla better, and therefore my vote and hopes aim more towards Marc-y Marc.
The Flames dont have the people to get a guy like Spezza or Savard. The Core of the Flames are aging and have lost a step, and they have no prospects except maybe Backlund. If you think it took Penner, Cogliano and Smid to get Heatley from Murray last year, it will take both Regher and White to get Spezza, plus maybe a draft pick because he is a top line center. The Flames have to rebuild because they are overrated, Iggy is past his prime and Kipper has lost it. I see some dark days ahead at the 'Dome, but what do I care, at least we got Hall.
Oof. Toughie.
Neither are perfect, but I think Spezza is preferable between the two based on age, health, and a comparable skill level. Cost is a key issue, and maybe Savard with a left hand pass is a more natural fit with Iggy... and maybe Spezza is a bit softer ... hmm, I may be changing my opinion...
In any case the Flames don't need to get older.
I cannot see Daz shedding Regher. I think he loves him too much (as do many of us), and he voted FOR Reggie and AGAINST Dion with the trade wth the Leafs.
Is that what Ottawa would want back anyway? They didn't exactly shoot out the lights last year and would want some scoring (thu trade or UFA) as well as leadership and defense that Robin brings.
There are wishful trades to mak for either player (i.e. Stajan + White + all the overpaid underperforming aging players - you know who you are - that Daz can put in there to make it look closer to Dion for Spezza) but those aren't realistic. Bryan Murray isn't a fool.
I would suspect he'd want something akin to Backlund (maybe Hagman?) + Gio/Erixson to join Regher/White. I don't know if that's a good deal for the Flames.
I just don't know if the Flames have what it takes to tease a big trade for a #1 Centre out of another GM without getting lucky with a steal... or taking someone else's problem.
I would do Regehr + White for Spezza, esp. since RCleave's analysis has me afraid White's going to get $3M per.
I don't have high expectations for Spezza here - you think Iggy at $7M underperforms in a first-line role? - Spezza will be the same.
But, the duo together would kill on the PP and could probably go +10 to +20 at EV against the soft parade. With a first line of Higgins-Langkow-Bourque... it's not hard to imagine that the Spezza/Iggy second line could help the team win games.
Personally my preference is just to pair Lanks and Iggy, with Higgins or Bourque on left wing, and just win games with PVP. That plan would preclude Spezza, as Stajan-Hagman behind could provide secondary scoring against scrubs.
Of course this all depends on tight coaching from Sutter, and he was anything but that last season. Nystrom on post-icing starts, I was the most tolerant of those (fourth-liners need to be sheltered, this is one way to do it) but the icetime totals for the fourth line at the end were insanely high.
As far as generally adding offense: literally nobody has mentioned Frolov this offseason and he's still my #1 target.
Ed Duhatyschek tweeted from the draft last weekend that Sutter may have offered Langkow + Regehr (+ more) to OTT for Spezza but that obviously didn't happen. Not to say that that offer is dead, but I imagine the Flames would have to add to the pot to grab a player like Spezza.
The other thing is that Langkow & Regehr both have no trade/movement clauses and to have them both waive to go tot he same place would be enxt to impossible.
Even so, a packgae like Langkow, Regehr, Nemisz, Pick for Spezza would be spot on for Flames fans.
June 29 2010, 11:51AM
On Savard:
I've been reading (on hfboards, so take with a dozen grains of salt) that Savard had only waived his NTC/NMC for Toronto and Ottawa. Additionally, Boston was looking for more of a 'soft' trade, so Calgary could potentially get it done with a defensive prospect/pick or two as opposed to our good value players. Good as Savard is, he is in hockey middle age, and with his concussion history he could turn out to be a cheaper trade than we'd think despite his abilities.
Even so, a packgae like Langkow, Regehr, Nemisz, Pick for Spezza would be spot on for Flames fans.
Langkow out and Spezza in doesn't end well for the Flames. Iginla isn't Alfredsson-good anymore, Spezza won't have someone at starboard to drive the puck north for him.
The only way Spezza has success on this team is if he's paired with a killer winger (not an option) or if he's got somebody playing ahead of him in the batting order (that's Langkow).
Kotalik Buyout rumors quashed?
From Friedman HNIC's twitter:
"One note about Kotalik: Flames did not put him on unconditional waivers, so he cannot be bought out. Maybe they will do it tomorrow... "
"but, as of now, he is not eligible for buyout under CBA. The Oilers and Rangers players, for example, were put on unconditional waivers. "
I'd wait until Bob Mac says something on the matter to make this official.
...wouldn't trade White. Would trade Regher, but he has a NTC. Savard could be a bargain (considering the depth Boston has and Savards age/recent injury). I think the Senators will be asking a whole lot more than the Senators will for Spezza.
...I think Darryl could land Savard for Regher and a prospect or draft pick. To acquire Spezza would probably take double the assests (2 roster players and two prospects or draft picks).
...I'm with the last guy on Frolov, but Darryl isn't going to add an Easter Euro to the roster. He just put their only one on waivers yesterday :(
@Bob Cobb
hahaha I think your mullet is on backwards and obstructing your view... Spezza will be a hard sell and Regehr will have to be included but I don't think White will need to go or is an option for going... but ur not wrong that we aren't exactly stacked with guys to make this work but it could be done... I like Savards chances over Spezzas... yes Iggy probbaly won't score 50 anymore but I would take him over any player from edmontons roster and about Kipper... are u serious?? lost it?? wow the little credibility you had just evaporated... Kipper is top 5 goalies in the league by far... top 6 if you remove my bias haha
what about jordan staal?? is he still on the list??
you know how much I like Frolov. You also know that the Flames won't touch him.
Yeah. I keep hoping the Flames org will change but it's like the players, after a while you are who you are.
What is the deal with the Russians anyway? Is it the bolting-to-KHL issue with Tarathukin? I wonder if Sutter would consider an already established Russian player if there was little chatter regarding leaving NA.
Re: Murray - he got bent over on the Heatley trade. I mean even if you think Michalek and Heatley is a lateral move at best for the Sharks (and as much as I don't like Heatley's game he can definitely help you win), OTT still only extracted a 2nd-rounder for the privelege of eating Cheechoo's contract.
I have no doubt that Sutter could screw him over at will to get Spezza, the problem is determining if Spezza is even worth acquiring. If only Murray was managing the Jackets instead... sigh, Nash would already be a Flame.
nash a flame????
drool..... i freaking love nash
hahaha I think your mullet is on backwards and obstructing your view... Spezza will be a hard sell and Regehr will have to be included but I don't think White will need to go or is an option for going... but ur not wrong that we aren't exactly stacked with guys to make this work but it could be done... I like Savards chances over Spezzas... yes Iggy probbaly won't score 50 anymore but I would take him over any player from edmontons roster and about Kipper... are u serious?? lost it?? wow the little credibility you had just evaporated... Kipper is top 5 goalies in the league by far... top 6 if you remove my bias haha
Your not getting Spezza for Regher plus something or Savard for White plus something as both Cherelli and Murray would want more, as to my point about the Heatley mess from last year. That and the Flames would want Cherelli and Murray to take back more cash to even out the salary cap numbers and thus it would be at least a 3 for one trade meaning any combination of players and picks.
The Flames would need to move either Langkow or Stajan to acquire Spezza /Savard.
If they move Spezza, Ottawa would need a #1 center back, so Duhatyschek tweet of Langkow plus Regehr may be a reasonable starting point. (Calgary gives up $8.5 million in cap room, Ottawa gives up $7 million). I'm not sure that Langkow is a fit at #1 in Ottawa... Savard might be.
If you acquire Savard, the Bruins do not need a center, so its White + for Savard, then a second transaction moving Langkow to ?. If you could get a prospect or pick for Langkow this might work. Savard replaces Langkows salary, White + is essentially traded for the return on Langkow.
Overall, think I would take the gamble on Spezza, but Savard might make more sense.
Bryan Murray isn't a fool.
I agree with everything you said but this. Murray is one of the worst GM's operating in the league currently.
@ RO - you know how much I like Frolov. You also know that the Flames won't touch him.
Okay, okay. Murray did get fleeced, and has made bad bets... Will he again? Will he accept our detrius for Spezza? Or will he get valuable assets? Unlike the Heater trade, Spezza isn't (to my knowledge) holding a gun to Murray's head.
@ RO The likelihood that Spezza would arrive and collapse ala Joker is, I think, low. So if he were to appear and (let's say over the next 2 years) he didn't mesh with Iggy we would have, finally, come to a close on the "Is it the Centre or is it Iggy" debate.
And he'd still be 29, tradable, and the Flames would be without Daz (I imagine he'll be fired if he doesn't get some traction this season) and in full rebuild mode.
Is Spezza worth it? I dunno. Who is?
Are the Flames really "One Player" away from being great? Maybe. Who is that one player? It ain't Spezza or Savard.
The likelihood that Spezza would arrive and collapse ala Joker is, I think, low
Based on what?
They are similar players, not quite complete players, weak at driving the play and circumstances have padded their counting numbers. These are the types of players for which a change in role on another team will make them look worse. But they're the same damn player all throughout.
I'm tired of Jokinen being called a "collapse". He was exactly what we thought he was, a weak player who was semi-capable on the powerplay and looked good in jeans. There was no collapse, his performance was well within the range of reasonable expectations for him. Those same expectations exist for Spezza.
Jokinen was universally loved by the radio callers-in and denizens of sites like CalgaryPuck and FlamesNation (before Kent took over) when the first trade was made. This is, incidentally, the same crowd that hates Langkow and loves Spezza, and chooses to forget all about their previous love for Jokinen.
There's a reason for that.
@Bob Cobb
I couldn't agree more that it will have to be a 3 for one trade, I just don't see White being involved in the trades... Spezza will most likely need Regehr, a forward, and a prospect at the very least depending on the forward and the prospect and I think maybe more than that. Cherelli is rumored to be open to a "soft" deal so it might not require Regehr to be involved in the deal, maybe Sarich but theres no question he will need a good package in return to let go of Savard, just maybe not as good as Spezza would need... I realize I made it sound like I thought Regehr + something would be enough, but thats not what I meant. I just meant that I think Regehr will have to be involved in the trade package in order to get Spezza and that I don't think that White will be involved, but it will definitely take more than just Regehr +1 to get Spezza. Same goes for Savard... were on the same page there, just not with the Iggy and Kipper stuff haha
June 29 2010, 01:49PM
Here's the forward lines for the start of the 2010-2011 season:
1 Hagman-Stajan-Iginla 2 Glencross-Langkow-Bourque 3 Dawes-Backlund-Kotalik 4 Mashup of Higgins, Moss, Sutter, Mayers, and call-ups
No big offseason deal for a top 6 six forward. No unloading of defensive contracts. Status quo.
Book it.
However, when the Flames have scored 7 goals in 37 games, things could change and we could end up with a bloated contract for a nancy-boy or a mush-brain.
@Bob Cobb
...I believe Savard is overvalued and Spezza is undervalued from what I have been reading and hearing.
...acquiring Spezza is going to reqire a team to give up alot more than acquiring Savard. This is in large part because Spezza is on the market for different reasons than Savard.
...Savard will be 33 and is being pushed out of the lineup by youth and his own injury problems. Also, Ottawa has more cap space than Boston and Spezza makes almost twice as much than Savard.
...I chalk it up to: -one roster player and a pick/prospect for SAVARD. -two roster players and two picks/prospects for SPEZZA.
...acquiring Savard seems more likely for the Flames. We will have to see I guess. As Kent said, Bryan Murray is a little suspect (ie. acquiring Rob Brown...I mean Jonathan Cheechoo ;) in the Heatly deal)
June 29 2010, 03:43PM
The actual questions raised:
1-Would I trade White and others for Savard? Yes, I'd trade White and any winger not named Jarome or Rene. Maybe even a second young winger, or a second young defender.
2-Would I trade Regehr and others for Spezza? No. If I'm GM of the Flames I'm never, ever trading Regehr. When he retires I'm making him assitant coach of the Heat. Then promoting him to head coach of the Heat. Then he's moving on up to be assitant coach for the Flames. Possibly even Head Coach one day. Also, I don't want to have 2 $7M boat anchor contracts on my team. Spezza is a very good player, I just don't think he will ever be as good with this team as he was with Alfy and Heater, and he'll never be worth what we pay him.
The likelihood that Spezza would arrive and collapse ala Joker is, I think, low Based on what?
Umm, completely unsubstanited and unsupported optimism? That's probably not a good basis is it?
I guess that is a good question: is Spezza = Joker and would the Flames be buying the same problems? If so, what is the next best option because standing pat ... I don't see enough there to hope for improvements.
maybe that gets us back to Savard, or to some other option... or it gets us back to thinking about more substantial changes
The actual questions raised:
1-Would I trade White and others for Savard? Yes, I'd trade White and any winger not named Jarome or Rene. Maybe even a second young winger, or a second young defender.
2-Would I trade Regehr and others for Spezza? No. If I'm GM of the Flames I'm never, ever trading Regehr. When he retires I'm making him assitant coach of the Heat. Then promoting him to head coach of the Heat. Then he's moving on up to be assitant coach for the Flames. Possibly even Head Coach one day. Also, I don't want to have 2 $7M boat anchor contracts on my team. Spezza is a very good player, I just don't think he will ever be as good with this team as he was with Alfy and Heater, and he'll never be worth what we pay him.
...Savard for White NO. ...Regher for Spezza YES.
For the record here's what I think Spezza and Jokinen. They are similar players - terrific individual skills, but weak at an overall level 5on5. Jokinen was the typical "end-to-end" rusher and it never worked, from what I've seen of Spezza it's more of the same, but of course he's got Alfredsson who is a very smart player, so they end up getting the puck more in the offensive zone as a duo.
Still, Spezza is capable in the offensive zone, he'll never be a Sedin or Crosby in terms of being able to put the puck in the scoring area at will, but he can find the soft spots on the ice. He is probably better than Jokinen.
That doesn't matter though, because the general consensus seems to be that A.) Langkow has to go to OTT in any Spezza trade, and B.) Spezza will play with Iginla in a "first-line" role.
That ends disastrously, book it. Spezza's success hinges on having others to do the heavy lifting so he can generate chances in softer icetime (either behind a better centre on the depth chart, or beside a terrific winger who can push the puck into the offensive zone). A first-line role without Langkow means putting Spezza into the deep end. The points won't translate.
The same story could probably be told for any number of supposed stars in this league. Think the Kovalchuk, Malkin, Lecavalier, Backstrom, Heatley types.
i agree with the frolov, ive been telling some of my buddies that's who we should be looknig at. we would still have to move some salary to get him tho i would think. cause higgs is goin to sign. i would be fine with speeza too tho. i love reg and lanks but if we can get spezza and save 1.5 mil we maybe better off. maybe we could still get frolov in that case. a spezza, frolov iggy line????????????????? actually check that ig spez and bork someone would have to backcheck. then a staj, frolov, higgs line??? that sounds better to bad in my mind is the only place this will happen
too dangerous to pick up Savard, we aren't sure his concussion issues won't some back. they are unpredictable at best, however Spezza costs so much freaking money its a tough call to want him.
...all your saying is that good players need to play with other good players in order to maximize their results. Not saying much.
...put Gretzky on a line with Gino Odjick and Link Gaetz, and Gretzy would be lucky to put up a PPG even in his prime.
...Spezza is a good set up guy. He'd fit in nicely with Iggy. Jokinen was a shooter first. The scoring chances didn't translate with Iggy.
I wouldn't mind seeing a trade bringing in Mike Ribero. He would be a good fit and has excellent playmaking abilities. He might have a bit of Alex Kovalevitis (poor guy probably contracted it in Montreal when they were on the PP together) but he is not as high of a cap hit as Spezza and is not quite as old as Savard. Also with money bags Brad Richards in Dallas as well as the Stars youth movement, and self implemented salary cap Ribeiro might be had for an affordable price.
...all your saying is that good players need to play with other good players in order to maximize their results. Not saying much.
Actually, I am not saying that at all.
It's pretty clear from how the game works that good players make their linemates look better. Results that you drive when you're on the ice don't always come off your stick.
I mean crap just in this past season you could see examples of good players dragging lesser players around. Crosby with anybody, Ovechking with Backstrom, the Sedins with Burrows, Thornton with Heatley and Marleau, Datsyuk with Bertuzzi, the list goes on and on.
I mean it makes sense to play good players with good players, but it's clear that the better players will separate themselves. On this team I've been forever advocating Langkow and Iginla, but there are no illusions, Lanks is the superior 5on5 player right now. You play them together to hide Iggy's flaws and take advantage of his now-limited range of skills in the offensive zone. The same with Alfredsson and Spezza. Both are skilled but in the end there's only one guy with both hands on the wheel steering the bus.
On that note, I haven't seen a single Spezza supporter actually describe anything relevant about Spezza's game. The "playmaker" or "setup guy" labels are packaged fluff, and more to the point they aren't the most accurate descriptors to begin with. I mean the guy scores a fair number of goals on a fair number of shots and watching him you see him penetrate the high slot with the puck quite often. He's no Heatley but he's no Thornton either.
And in any case classifying players into "shooters" and "playmakers" kind of ignores the altogether more fundmanetal aspects of the game as played at even strength, that is driving possession. That's kind of important, getting the puck into the zone and subsequently into the scoring area. The way people talk about skaters it's as if they're perpetually on a powerplay, or a 2on1.
...put Gretzky on a line with Gino Odjick and Link Gaetz, and Gretzy would be lucky to put up a PPG even in his prime.
Knowledgable Oilers fans have said that Gretzky played with more than a few altogether pedestrian linemates. Gretzky was a terrific player and thus made his linemates look better, surprise surprise.
June 29 2010, 06:38PM
Whoever doesnt want to see Spezza in Calgary is NUTS, first off he just turned 27yrs old and in his prime, he makes any player look good around him, last year after his injury he went on a scoring streak, yea hes a cap hit of $7mill but for a player like him its worth it, he is what Iggy needs, he can dangle in the zone himself and Iggy doesnt have to do all the work, yes Spezza makes mistakes, all creative players make mistakes cause they take risk, Calgary needs a player like him, Savard is one big hit away from a season ending concussion, Ottawa needs Dmen as they lost Volchenkov and Reggie fits the bill, Langkow is a good 2 way player they can use as im sure Fisher can move to #1 line, and i dont mind throwing in a White, as we have great Dmen in the farm team that can make a jump, what calgary lacks is letting there younger players play in the big leagues, look at teams like Buffalo, Nashville, Colorado etc they are all giving young guys a chance, it seems like we take a decade to develop our players Neways trade for Spezza he is what Iggy and the flames need Ray
From 08/09 trade deadline:
Whoever doesnt want to see Jokinen in Calgary is NUTS, first off he just turned 30yrs old, still in the tail-end of his prime, he makes any player look good around him, he's had two 90 point seasons and a 70 point season, yea hes a cap hit of $5.25 mill but for a player like him its worth it, he is what Iggy needs, he can shoot the puck all by himself and Iggy doesnt have to do all the work, yes Jokinen makes mistakes, all creative players make mistakes cause they take risk, Calgary needs a player like him.
Neways trade for Jokinen he is what Iggy and the flames need
I don't think Daz has the savvy or the assets to get either deal done.
In fairness, Spezza IS the playmaking center that Jokinen is not and never was.
I'm a Spezza fan and think he gets a bit of a bad rap. If they could unload Stajan & Regehr in the deal, I'd do it in a heartbeat.
... then send KotalikBALLS to Russia to get him off the books and find somewhere for Sarich and/or Staios and sign Hamhuis... that's MY fantasy!
Just imagine making a trade to bring in Spezza with the $ nearly even, then wiping $9M off the books with the 3 cap-hazards, and THEN signing Hamhuis & Colby Armstrong. Then throw a few bucks at Jim Vandermeer if he gets bought out for a depth D and we're set!
*sips on kool-aid*
In fairness, Spezza IS the playmaking center that Jokinen is not and never was.
Nothing in his profile or in my time watching him gave me the impression he was more of a "playmaker" than any other centre. In fact the opposite, see above.
Also, on playmakers vs. shooters - why is it so important? Good players inevitably see the puck go into the offensive zone and the scoring area (and by extension into the net) more often in their team's favor than the opponent's favor. That's what's important.
I mean there are different ways to do those things but in the end it's more important that you're able to do those things. And the context in which you do them, paramount. The style in which you get the job done, it's secondary.
...you write that:
The "playmaker" or "setup guy" labels are packaged fluff, and more to the point they aren't the most accurate descriptors to begin with.
...but then you go on to describe how (I'm not even going to dwell on the point that Heatly and Marleau are first line players with or without Thornton):
I mean crap just in this past season you could see examples of good players dragging lesser players around...Thornton with Heatley and Marleau.
...So Thornton is not a setup guy? Craig Janney and Adam Oates weren't setup guys? I'm not saying Spezza is anywhere near as good a play maker as the aforementioned players, or even as good of a setup guy as Savard, but like the last poster said, we'd be crazy not to go after avaliable talent.
...maybe my point on Gretz was a little off center, but the fact remains that he had Kurri and Anderson for a good portion of his time with the Oil. But the fact of the matter is good, complementary players, make each other better.
That said, RossCreek, Stajan + Regehr for Spezza is something that I would do.
I don't forecast Spezza in a tough-minutes role. But he could help our stagnant PP and on a Langkow-led team he could help boost even strength offence. It's a hell of a price to pay but there it is.
In any case, that is why I balk at all trades involving Langkow Spezza. But Stajan at his price is a terrible bet IMO, I wouldn't hesitate to get rid of that contract.
...So Thornton is not a setup guy? Craig Janney and Adam Oates weren't setup guys? I'm not saying Spezza is anywhere near as good a play maker as the aforementioned players, or even as good of a setup guy as Savard, but like the last poster said, we'd be crazy not to go after avaliable talent.
Thornton has his (fairly unique) style of play to get the puck in the scoring area, he's pass-first to the extreme. However, that description completely wipes away his other much more important qualities. He's a good determiner of the zone, fairly tough to knock off the puck. He doesn't blow you away with his ability to win puck battles but he's no weakling. His game is a bit perimeter but he makes it work.
I mean "playmaker" doesn't really describe why Thornton is effective. "Playmaker" is such a bland and non-descriptive term. In its usual definition, it doesn't nearly apply to every centre in the league. I'd prefer if you were to extoll the virtues of players you like, that you actually outline what those virtues are. Instead of using a canned term.
A couple months back, I planned on doing a Stajan v. Langkow post. At the end of the day, I wasn't sure I believed myself, so I let it slide.
My hope when they got Stajan was that he was a younger, cheaper, (less gritty) version of Langkow. In some ways, I still think he is, but in others... well, I just couldn't convince myself that he could play against the top guys. If you look up their point totals at similar ages, they're pretty close to the same. Stajan being younger, isn't as fine-tuned as Lanks, but my hope was that in time, Stajan would pick up some of those intangibles with experience. He's got good size & is a decent all-around player, but like I said, I just could't convince myself he'd eventually do it... and he wasn't exactly a favorite of mine while in Toronto. Here's the #'s... someone convince me!
Langkow (09/76)
Yr 1 - (20) 79-15-13-28
Yr 2 - (21) 68-08-14-22
Yr 3 - (22) 78-14-19-33
Yr 4 - (23) 82-18-32-50
Yr 5 - (24) 71-13-41-54
Yr 6 - (25) 80-27-35-62
Yr 7 - (26) 82-20-32-52
Stajan (12/83)
Yr 1 - (19) 69-14-13-27
Yr 2 - (21) 80-15-12-27
Yr 3 - (22) 82-10-29-39
Yr 4 - (23) 82-16-17-33
Yr 5 - (24) 76-15-40-55
Yr 6 - (25) 81-19-36-55
Yr 7 - *next season
**Stajan's 20 yr old year was the lockout year; played in AHL (80-23-43-66), would've been his 2nd NHL season otherwise.
***Age at start of season.
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That said, RossCreek, Stajan + Regehr for Spezza is something that I would do.
I don't forecast Spezza in a tough-minutes role. But he could help our stagnant PP and on a Langkow-led team he could help boost even strength offence. It's a hell of a price to pay but there it is.
In any case, that is why I balk at all trades involving Langkow Spezza. But Stajan at his price is a terrible bet IMO, I wouldn't hesitate to get rid of that contract.
I agree with this. And Ottawa takes Kotalik or Staios.
June 29 2010, 09:49PM
Spezza is a gamble. He wasn't that dominant even with Heater and Alfredsson. At 7 million a season, I would not like that deal so much especially considering what we would have to give up.
Savard would be nice. A 4 million cap hit is perfect. He may also be too expensive. Remember, many teams are looking for a 1st line/2nd line Centre.
Spezza for Reggie? In a second i'd make that deal. Reggie is growing old and slowing down, i also think he is a problem in the dressing room and is too cozy with Sutter. Though the cap would be hard, Spezza's raw talent for a stay at home d-man, it's a no brainer. As for Savy, the guys at the Fan would love that too much, they'd have the "Savy report" every day.
...I think we are arguing over semantics more than anything here. I'm not sure we'll come to agreement, nor do we need to. I'll leave it alone and point taken.
I am probably in the minority, but I don't see Sutter getting a number one Centre this season.
We already have 3 top 12 guys. By all accounts they won't move Backlund. They just signed Stajan to a multi-year deal. Langkow has a NMC which he apparently signed for his family stability.
King's recent comments, the lack of anything to date (by really and team), and a possible July 1 date on the Spezza deal support that. Regher is also a probably piece and he also has a NMC.
I think they do something, but it is probably along the lines of using the salary acquired from Kotalik and signing a player like Tanguay or Whitney. I think they stand pat up the middle.
Moss/Dawes might get shuffled a bit if they do sign Higgins. Other then that i think they leave the top 12 alone and play around with the fourth line.
Maybe there is some movement on D if they can move Sarich, but I don't even think thats gonna happen. I think Sutter likes the D line the way it is.
I actually don't mind the team with Kotalik gone and a top line passer added. I think the team is better with a top line centre, but I don't really like what you give up to get it. Let Stajan / Langkow duke it out for top spot, and if Backlund does mature offensively see what the kids got.


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Skip to comments.Have you been living under a rock? Mexican family converts 131-foot stone in desert into a home
Posted on 01/24/2013 7:20:51 AM PST by Uncle Chip
Most people think living under a rock is something to avoid.
But for one Mexican family, it's a dream come true. Farmer Benito Hernandez knew since the age of eight that he wanted to make a 131-foot rock formation in Coahuila, Mexico, his home.
It took him 20 years to buy the land but as soon as he was able, Hernandez and his wife Santa Martha constructed a sun-dried brick house beneath the awe-inspiring formation.
Located about 50 miles south of the U.S.-Mexico border near the remote community of San Jose de Piedras, the home is small.
But it was large enough for the couple to raise seven children over the 30 years they've inhabited the cave-like property.
'I started coming here when I was 8 years old to visit the Candelilla fields and I liked it here,' Hernandez said.
'I wasn't married and I didn't have a family yet, but I liked it and I had to keep coming to put my foot in because lands here are won through claiming them.'
Though Hernandez installed a wood-burning stove, electricity is unreliable in the dwelling, which in located in the arid desert.
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That's the same kind of lawn chair used by the illegals in the section-8 housing in our city.
It would scare the heck out of me, but then, when you think of it, it's no different from being on the ground floor of a skyscraper.
Well the roof won't leak.
I know, couldn't he have dragged that off just for the shot?
Must be amazing living under that rock. I'd love it.
Nice patio bench.
Years ago I saw similar cave dwellings in the cliffs around Acapulco. It was quite a contrast with the mansions not far away.
It's a home that would make Frank Lloyd Wright jealous.
Note the architectural style windows.
This one is a little nicer.
I admire this family's tenacity and hard work to eke out a living.
More power to them!
I live in Carefree, AZ. On Black Mountain, a lot of $10 mil+ homes look like this.
No, not kidding.
Living in AZ, a lot of us appreciate this stuff.
You bet — maybe someone from Window World will see this and bring them a couple of windows to make their lives a little easier.
nice lawn furniture get it a Home depot??
Have you been following the drama of the FLW home that he built for his son...in Paradise Valley, AZ? Fascinating.
I grew up in this area, but never knew of the house. My husband and I heard it was up to be demolished and sneaked in to look (even though there was a guard...dumb of us...but a lot of architecture nuts were all doing the same...and the guard was kind...and I think given orders to be rational at us lookie-lou/student/FLW fan types).
The good news: This fantastic, odd little house, was bought by a wonderful person and donated to the FLW Society.
It really is a wonder....a small house on a barren 2 acre lot in a once lovely neighborhood...now turned into fancy-ville....But it has survived and I'm thrilled. I love it!
"Over-stuffed patio chaise-lounge", not a lawn chair.
Go South of Moab, Utah and you will see a home blasted out of solid rock.
It is now a tourist attraction called HOLE IN THE ROCK.
Love that front porch decor...IKEA, right? Or maybe Studebaker...
Dude...."lawn chair", LOL!!!!
Dadburn it! You beat me to it!
Love that lawn furniture. All it needs to really set the style is a Virgin Mary shrine made of a bathtub buried vertically with about 3 ft of it above ground, surrounded by a border of beer bottles buried upside down with about 2-3 inches showing above ground.
Yabba dabba doo!
Don't forget the plastic Flamingos!
Not exactly a new concept. This dwelling is at least 900 years old
Of course - the flamingos.
What is the location of your house between 2 rocks? Is it Horse Heaven Hills?
It needs the beer bottles. For the record I have the pink flamingos but they are so retro-tacky that they are now cool. Next on my list is Dashboard-Jesus.
Oooh, is that in Arizona near Camp Verde? looks familiar.
Visited Hovenweep years ago before it became controlled. A fabulous ancient ruins.
And then there is Petra in Jordan.
Many people who have a large enough cave, again, if it's dry, will use it for supplemental storage.
Around Bloomington and Bedford where they mine limestone there are numerous abandoned limestone pits cut mostly into the side of hills.
Almost bought an 11,000 sq. ft. concrete and steel house that looked like a medieval castle snuggled into one of those sites. It had a serious rattlesnake problem so it was quite affordable. They lived in the prairie on the roof ~ they ate a lot of bunnies. Otherwise it was a fantastic place.
http://www.trulia.com/property/3049038599-3390-S-Snoddy-Rd-Bloomington-IN-47401#photo-1 It's for sale again at $1.4 million ~ ten acre lot, 4 acres consisting of a lake ~ see pictures ~ plus there are two smaller ponds on the back of the lot. Do not be fooled by the claim this has only 2 parking spaces! Also, looks like they took my advise and put in a manufactured home ON TOP so there was someplace to retreat in winter. You can imagine the heating costs for this turkey, but at 110 degrees in summer heat it stayed in the 70s ~ while I was there. We have a great video clip about the snake skins hanging from the ceilings.
It is on the reservation of the the Ute Mountain tribe.
It is in extreme south west Colorado. It is adjacent to Mesa Verde NP. The tribe gives a guided tour in a small van. The ruins are spectacular, ruins not a picked over archeological site, untouched by people. The ruin photo has stuff left there 900 or so years ago. Truly amazing.Most structures in this pueblo are intact. the kiva has artwork on whitewashed walls but the roof is caved in.
They pick you up at the Casino and drive you back into the reservation. It is the best tour we have seen and we have been on many. We have seen lots and lots of ruins. these are perhaps the best. They are small but you get a very spooky feeling of trespassing. You can feel the presence of those who were there.
It's on the road from Ship Rock (home of Sgt Jim Chee) to Cortez
Ah, yes, that's right. For those structures made of mud to have survived for so long they need to have remarkably similar siting, and other properties. "Other properties", haha, yeah they need to be next to river valleys for conveniently growing crops nearby. Hence the canyon wall siting.
Actually when I visited Montezuma's Castle 30+ years ago the guide only warned us against entering the upper structure, but we did accidentally wander into into the off-limits area as we were chatting with some cute archeologists.
I also admire that they are a married couple with 7 children—who apparently are taking care of their own.........
I'm thinking rear bench from an early '80s Ford Econoline van.
But I agree that 7 kids and 1 wife is pretty good stats, so hats off to them.
I like it, with a little work it could be defensible.
Needs a berm though, gotta have a berm.
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DENVER — Mountain Vista boys basketball coach Bob Wood knew his team would be in trouble if the game lasted any longer.
Graham Smith was tired but his layup helped to end a long night for the Golden Eagles.
Mountain Vista posted an emotionally draining 78-76 double-overtime Class 5A quarterfinal state playoff victory over Cherokee Trail on March 8 at the Denver Coliseum.
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Skip to comments.[January 7, 2008] Anthropogenic Continental Drift: An Incoherent Truth
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Industrial Nations Threaten Globe Again
A new menace to the planet has been discovered and validated by a consensus of politically reliable scientists: Anthropogenic Continental Drift (ACD) will result in catastrophic damage and untold suffering, unless immediate indemnity payments from the United Sates, Europe, and Australia be made to the governments of non-industrial nations, to counteract this man-made threat to the world's habitats.
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The continents rest on massive tectonic plates. Until the beginning of the Industrial Revolution in the mid 18th century, these plates were fixed in place and immobile. However, drilling for oil and mining for minerals has cut these plates loose from their primordial moorings and left them to drift aimlessly. "The potential for damage is truly catastrophic," said Hans Brinker, a spokesman for the International Panel on Continental Drift (IPCD). "The continents are adrift due to the ruthless capitalist exploitation of the environment for profit. Unless immediate steps are taken to halt all oil and mineral extraction, we can expect a massive surge in earthquakes and volcanos by next Tuesday." The representative seemed close to tears during his announcement, a clear indicator of the severity of the threat.
Villages in Peril
The IPCD bureaucracy has gone even further, proposing immediate indemnity payments from the United Sates and Europe be paid to the governments of non-industrial nations. "These non-industrial nations will be hardest hit by the looming catastrophe. No right-thinking scientist can question that," pronounced Brinker after composing himself. "On one coast they will see increased surf levels on their beaches as their continents accelerate, while on the opposite coast the flow turbulence will wipe out entire ecologically appropriate semi-neolithic fishing villages." These villages, it must be pointed out, are the primary raisers of children. Only massive infusions of industrial-nation cash can avert these effects.
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Thanks for the heads up.
Smash the State!!!
LOL, this is hilarious. Can't believe this was written in 2008 and I haven't seen it till now. Funny stuff!
"Man is responsible for the universe and all its chaos!"
I know there are those that are responsible for stupidity. Anthropogenic Stupidity! Remember, ignorance can be cured; stupid is forever.
All we have to do is pass a law and get rid of entropy. All of our problems would be fixed.
Must see YouTube video! (no joke--dead serious!)
March 2010:
Democrat Representative Hank Johnson fears Guam may "tip over" and "capsize" due to overpopulation!
If vid should disappear, try this:
I think we have a winner in the latest stupid contest! Slow Joe ... is that you?
Um, leftdolts would buy it. And obastard might use it as an excuse for more taxes...
This jackass belongs on a soap box along with the wineos at Pershing Square all predicting the end of the world each at a different time.
They have been there continuously for the last 70 years that I know of spewing their filth!
Thanks - I should have looked at the site first!
Personally though I like "Gondwanaland" better. Sounds African - and more like some actual country. Would be good for a survey at a May Day protest.
Sort of along the lines of "Will you sign this petition to end women's sufferage?"
Do it for Julia...
And for heavens sake, don't send any more Marines to Guam.
Hilarious, bumping for later.
Oh that was pain
If only we could have hooked up the continents together with massive chains before they drifted apart. Most importantly we have to do something about conservative drift, with Romney and the GOP-e RINOs drifting apart from the conservative base.
Blow up the Sun. It's an ultraviolet radiation hazard!
God, the cancer!
How long will we continue to deplete space of it's valuable resources? It's almost empty now!
Please donate mushroom food to your nearest liberal to fill the void between their ears.
Would that be the same Hans Brinker who acquired silver skates to travel around Amsterdam with, when his wooden ones weren't fashionable enough? Then I would say he's part of the problem, by contributing to the decimation of the planetary environment through silver mining. He has little room to talk here!
Beat me to it. Ol' Hank has got to be the dumbest Congress critter we have. And that's saying a lot.
The reaction of the military guy he was questioning was priceless. He said, trying to keep a straight face: "er, we don't expect that to happen" (Guam "capsizing" due to over population).
Sheila Jackson Lee
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On a visit to the NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory in 2005, Jackson Lee made embarrassing news by asking if the Mars Pathfinder had taken an image of the flag planted there in 1969 by Neil Armstrong.[2]
Prior to the 110th Congress, Jackson Lee served on the House Science Committee and on the Subcommittee that oversees space policy and NASA.
(Earth's inner core is only about 7,000 degrees F. The outer core even less)
Thanks for posting this.
and thanks to FreedomPoster for pointing to this artice on BD476's thread on the Volcanoes...
Pinging others.
I think part of the game plan is to throw such idiotic things out into the air to see how many Americans and Europeans can be hoodwinked completely. Test the air. See what one can potentially get away with and then go after the available money.
The entire continent of Asia is getting ready to flip.
Thanks Ernest.
It is long past the time to laugh at everything these lying would-be America rapists and plunderers have to say about "anthropogenic" anything.
Go soak your heads, climate hysterics. We're onto you.
Oh, oops. LOL! Never mind...
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The Yakima Fire Department says a marijuana groing operation is to blame for the cause of a fire this weekend.
It happened around 7 pm Saturday on the 16 hundred block of Browne Avenue -- firefighters say it started in the basement of an apartment complex .
Crews say about 25 to 35 marijuana plants were growing in that room, and may have led to an electrical overload, which started the fire.
Firefighters say with marijuana decriminalized in Washington, they expect to see more fires starting from growing operations.
"Some statistics say that you're up to 40 times more likely to have a fire than in a normal house, and there's a lot of different hazards," said Lt. Hans Solie, "They bypass the electrical meters a lot of times, which makes hazards for us as firefighters."
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Lucreaty Clark demonstrates the process of making a white oak basket. Florida folklorist Peggy Bulger served as the interviewer and photographer.
Folklife Program staff compiled photographs from these interviews to create a slide-tape show called It'll Be Gone When I'm Gone; that slide-tape show is the source of the images on this web page.
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Notes: She was born in Jefferson County in 1904 and learned to make white oak baskets from her parents, who learned from their parents. Originally these sturdy baskets were used to hold cotton and carry vegetables. The tradition of white oak basket making has been carried on by Lucreaty Clark's grandson, Alphonso Jennings. Forms part of series S1577, Florida Folklife Archive, Photographs and Slides of Folk Arts, Artisans, and Performers.
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Lucreaty Clark was born in Lamont, Florida, in 1904. Here she learned to make white oak baskets from her parents. Her mother and father originally made white oak baskets for use on the North Florida plantation where they lived and worked. Oak splint baskets were primarily used on plantations in north and north-central Florida, an area where white oak trees are naturally found.
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Accompanying note: "She makes the head first and then puts the body together. She'll make the heads like maybe she's going to make a hundred. Sometimes she makes fifty and then she cuts up the body the same amount and then she starts working on it."
To make a basket, Clark would start by finding a white oak tree of a specific size and width. Once a tree had been selected and cut down, Clark would split the white oak logs into thin strips or "splits." White oak splits are naturally pliable and do not need to be soaked in water to make them softer, as with other woods. After trimming the splits with a knife, Clark would weave the basket from the bottom up. There were no formal plans to guide her, nor were any measurements taken during the process. The final step was finishing the rim.
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By FRANCES CALDWELLVancouver, Wash.
As Fathers' Day approaches, one wonders where the stepdads are. Unlike stepmoms, there is no collection of myths and legends that cast them as "evil" or "wicked" or even as the opposite. In fact, stepfather tales are strangely few and far between.
Evidence remains of two websites devoted to stepfathers, but now they are defunct, from lack of use no doubt. All of this seems odd when we learn that 80 percent of divorced mothers with children remarry. There are actually more stepfathers than stepmothers, but why don't we hear from them?
Maybe it's because most stepdads "get it." Perhaps they learn early on that a stepfather is different from a father in important ways. Family relationship counselors tell us the best stepfathers do not try to become fathers�instead they act as mentors, adult friends, helpers, and caretakers. They make themselves available as open-minded listeners, neutral sounding boards. Love and respect are allowed to develop slowly, never forced, never expected.
This stance works well with the whole family. Stepdad isn't trying to make the rules and enforce them. He learns very fast that stepdads who try to discipline are usually met with an angry, "You're not my father!" The wise stepfather lets mom do the discipline, conferring with her behind the scenes of course. He realizes that these children are not his and therefore shouldn't have to live up to his preconceived notions of what they should be.
Still there are some stepfathers who try to rule over their stepchildren, forcing them to call him "Dad" and follow in his footsteps. They, along with their wives and stepchildren, might seek help in Susan Philip's wise book Stepchildren Speak, offering advice and comfort to everyone involved. Written by grown-up stepchildren, this book has a different perspective than most books on the subject.
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I am back for another fun link party. This week I linked up my "I Can Take Care of My Teeth Kit" as well as my "I Know an Old Teacher Who...Story Prompts" (even though I accidently typed in lady, instead of teacher in the title of the link up). Thanks for visting my blog and leaving your kind comments.ReplyDelete
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Thanks for hosting the link up! This is my first time linking up, but am excited to see all the great ideas that the other blogs have to offer!ReplyDelete
Those are some cute projects you featured today. I think the word match eggs and obstical course are my favorites (beside my own ;p). Thanks for featuring my bunny purse!ReplyDelete
I am linking up for the first time today with the Easter marble painting. I love your site and love the wonderful ideas I find to do with my little one!ReplyDelete
So many great links! Thanks again for hostessing.ReplyDelete
I really love these parties.ReplyDelete
Thanks for another fun Kids Link Party, Rachel...I always enjoy reading your blog :)ReplyDelete
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Last year we created a plan of house E13.8, but it was otherwise just an outline of bricks walls with sand filling the rooms. This year, with the help of Shadia Abdu Rabo, I have been excavating the house, room by room.
It is a modest structure, trapezoidal in shape, tucked between house E13.3-N and the imposing, three metre-thick, town wall.
The house has four rooms which are arranged in a layout typical at Amara West, with one room leading through to the next, although in this instance a small room is accessed off to the left of the front room. So far we have removed layers of windblown sand and collapsed rubble to reveal two rooms containing partially preserved mud-plaster floor surfaces; the largest of these two rooms is the central room in the house with a hearth and mastaba (or bench) against one of the walls.
The smallest room in the house is located just off the front room and contains three bread ovens and lots and lots of ash and burnt material. Experience tells us we will probably come across more of these ovens as we continue digging down.
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A Plague of Pickpockets
RAY: This is from my "Travel and Leisure" series. Here it is:
Not long ago, I spent some time vacationing in a well-known place. It was also well known for pickpockets and other unsavory characters. And no, it wasn't Car Talk Plaza.
When I checked into the hotel, the folks at the desk were quick to warn me of the dangers of certain areas. They insisted that I would be much safer not leaving the hotel grounds, and I could spend all of my money right there.
TOM: Sure! Why not?
RAY: I chose to disregard them, of course, and when I visited some of these areas, I saw signs all over the place warning people to be on their guard for pickpockets.
By the end of my visit, I found out that the percentage of people who had filed reports with the police claiming to have had their pockets picked had gone up dramatically since the signs were put up.
And that's the question: can you explain why pickpocketing rates increased after the signs went up?
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- Rocks, Paper, Scissors will determine which player will serve first
- Player 1 on team A will serve until the opponent takes control of the ball by earning a side out. Then player 1 on team B will serve until they record a side out. The rotation starts over with player 2 on team A serving. Servers will rotate.
- The server must stand in the serving area and bounce the ball once before striking the ball
- The ball must strike the front wall before striking any other wall, ceiling or floor
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- A ball hits both side walls before hitting the floor
- A ball hits the back wall or ceiling before hitting the floor
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- The ball hits the floor twice between it is hit by the opposition
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Update: Jake Gardiner no longer "not in a concussion state"
Cam Charron
December 12 2012 10:55AM
Eakins won't call Gardiner's injury a concussion but he is feeling symptoms inneck and some headaches. Club will "err on side of caution"— Kyle Cicerella (@KyleTheReporter) December 12, 2012
Eakins also said Gardiner will not play this Saturday, but that was already planned as part of player rotations #Marlies— Kyle Cicerella (@KyleTheReporter) December 12, 2012
This isn't too surprising. The Toronto Marlies have upgraded Jake Gardiner's status to "concussion-like symptoms" although the way this is progressing, I have to wonder why they're avoiding the term "concussion" altogether.
From what I understand, Jake Gardiner took a hit from Kevin Porter in Saturday's game against the Lake Erie Monsters, scored a goal on the ensuing powerplay, and then sat out the third period. After the game, Dallas Eakins said Gardiner "wasn't in a concussion state" and held him out of Sunday's game for "precautionary" reasons.
So, yes, this is a huge blow to Toronto, both Maple Leafs and Marlies. I can't find a video of the hit, so if anybody comes across one, please get it over to me somehow.


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Relative of justice or judge ineligible to appointment
No person shall be appointed to or employed in any office or duty in any court who is related by affinity or consanguinity within the degree of first cousin to any justice or judge of such court.
(1) In this subsection, the term—
(A) "same court" means—
No person may be appointed to the position of judge of a court exercising judicial power under article III of the United States Constitution (other than the Supreme Court) who is related by affinity or consanguinity within the degree of first cousin to any judge who is a member of the same court.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 646, 62 Stat. 908; Pub. L. 105–300, § 1(a), Oct. 27, 1998, 112 Stat. 2836.)
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Based on title 28, U.S.C., 1940 ed., § 126 (Mar. 3, 1887, ch. 373, § 7, 24 Stat. 555; Aug. 13, 1888, ch. 866, § 7, 25 Stat. 437; Mar. 3, 1911, ch. 231, § 67, 36 Stat. 1105; Dec. 21, 1911, ch. 4, 37 Stat. 46).
A provision referring to circuit court employees as of December 21, 1911, was omitted as obsolete.
Changes in phraseology were made.
1998—Pub. L. 105–300 designated existing provisions as subsec. (a)(1) and added subsecs. (a)(2) and (b).
Effective Date of 1998 Amendment
Pub. L. 105–300, § 1(b), Oct. 27, 1998, 112 Stat. 2837, provided that:
"This Act [amending this section] shall take effect on the date of enactment of this Act [Oct. 27, 1998] and shall apply only to any individual whose nomination is submitted to the Senate on or after such date."
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