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Chris' request for "your impressions of the effect of war on surgery, of surgery on war, ...." for the next SurgeXperience is the source of inspiration for this post.
I have never been in the military so I have no direct experience. My father (see picture at right, died in 1966) was in the army. He was an orthotist, a specialist in designing and fitting orthopedic braces. I think my father would be absolutely amazed by the advances in the field. I know I am.
Prosthetists, on the other hand, specialize in designing and making artificial limbs. Wars through the ages have greatly influenced the need for and design of artificial limbs. This has been true for both the upper and lower extremities.
Amputation surgery is one of the oldest known surgically performed procedures. The surgical principles originally described by Hippocrates remain true today. There have been refinements of surgical technique such as hemostasis, anesthesia, and improved perioperative conditions have occurred. You can find a nice review of the history of amputation surgery here. Here are some of the highlights:
- 385 BCE - Plato's Symposium, Hippocrates' De Articularis
- 1st century CE - Use of cautery for large vessels (Celsus), first mention of ligatures, removal of gangrenous extremity through viable tissue edge with bone cut shorter than the soft tissues
- 1528 - Advent of gunpowder and increase in extremity injuries
- 1529 - Ambroise Pare, ligature introduced, also thick ligature used as a tourniquet
- 1588 - William Cloves, first successful above-knee amputation
- 1679 - Younge and Lowdham, introduction of local flaps for wound closure (animal bladders used previously)
- 1781 - John Warren, first successful shoulder amputation
- 1806 - Walter Brashear, first successful hip joint amputation
- 1837 - Liston, routine use of flap closure
- 1825 - Nathan Smith, through-knee amputation described
- 1870 - Stokes, Grittis procedure modified (ie, Gritti-Stokes amputation)
- 1873 - Eschmarch -- rubber bandage used rendering amputation bloodless, reproducible, and safer; limitation of use described per procedure, as well as avoidance of use on infected limbs
- 1943 - Major General Norman T. Kirk, indicated guillotine amputations in war setting should be completed as distal as possible and completed later under calmer conditions
- 1960-1980 - Recommendation to salvage knee in vascular amputations
Even without war, there are amputations that occur due to trauma and disease (mostly peripheral vascular disease, but also cancer and infection). This graft is from the National Limb Loss Information Center Fact Sheet, revised 2006.
During amputation surgery, several actions can be taken to maximize the function of the residual limb. These include the following:
- Shortening and beveling the bone end to allow adequate soft tissue coverage
- Sharply transecting the nerve under tension to allow retraction and to decrease the likelihood of neuroma formation
- Securing the muscles with a myodesis or myoplasty to create a structurally stable and functional limb
- Positioning the wound edges to avoid bony prominences at the far distal end of the residual limb
- Keeping the bony lever arm as long as possible but covering it with adequate muscle and soft tissue to avoid fitting problems later (sometimes length will have to be given up to obtain the coverage)
Post-amputation, assuming wound healing is going well, then it becomes important to train the patient to perform ADL and ROM exercises and to improve strength and mobility. Prevention of contractures is important. During this time, a program to prepare the residual limb for the prosthesis should be initiated. A skin desensitization program (both upper and lower extremities)consists of the following:
- Gentle tapping and massage (with a washcloth) on the distal portion of the residual limb
- Scar mobilization and massage to prevent excessive scar formation from causing the soft tissues and skin to adhere to underlying bone
- Edema control, initially with ace wraps and, when the drainage subsides, with a residual limb (stump) shrinker
- The application of pressure to the distal aspect of the residual limb to prepare the limb for weight acceptance
A rigid, removable dressing may be used over the residual limb during this phase. The rigid dressing serves the following functions:
- Aids in edema control and leads to rapid residual limb shrinkage
- Promotes healing by providing protection and preventing edema
- Desensitizes the limb
- Prevents residual limb trauma
- Reduces wound pain
Ideally, a prosthesis must be comfortable to wear, easy to put on and remove, light weight, durable, and cosmetically pleasing. A prosthesis must function well mechanically and require only reasonable maintenance. Prosthetic use largely depends on the motivation of the individual, as none of the above characteristics matter if the patient will not wear the prosthesis. The second and third reference articles are good discussions on the various types of prosthetics.
Some history of prosthetics I found in various articles:
Between 3500 and 1800 B.C.
- the first recorded allusion to a war injury that required a prosthesis can be found in the Rig-Veda. This is a sacred poem of India, written in Sanskrit which tells the tale of the warrior queen Vishpla, who—having lost her leg in battle—was fitted with a prosthetic leg made of iron so that she could return to the battlefield.
- The oldest known prosthesis, which was discovered in a tomb in Capua, Italy, was an artificial leg made out of copper and wood dating back to 300 BC. It was destroyed by bombing during World War II.
During the Middle Ages and the Renaissance
- In the 15th and 16th centuries many prostheses were made from iron. They were created for soldiers by the same craftsmen who made their suits of armor. Ambroise Pare, a French army surgeon, contributed both to the practice of surgical amputation and to the design of limb prostheses. (see picture of an iron hand designed by Pare, 16th century)
U.S. Civil War
- Created a great need for artificial limbs. The picture below is of Corporal David Cole and his leg prostheses, ca 1865. He has an amputation at the knee joint.
- The Great Civil War Benefaction provided a model for government support that aided prosthetic technology development through two world wars and continues today in the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) programs and in the military's commitment of the latest in prosthetic devices and rehabilitation services to today's service members.
In 1917, the Artificial Limb Manufacturers and Brace Association was formed. It has evolved into the American Orthotic and Prosthetic Association (AOPA -- a trade association of companies in O&P).
Antipersonnel mines (landmines) were first used on a wide scale in World War II. Since then they have been used in many conflicts, including in the Vietnam War, the Korean War, the first Gulf War. Precursors of the weapon are said to have first been used in the American Civil War in the 1800s.
In 1945, the National Academy of Sciences established the Artificial Limb Program in response to the plight of WWII amputee. Much emphasis was placed on investigating the movement of normal human limbs so that prostheses could be designed to appear as life-like as possible.
1946 - Suction socket and patellar tendon-bearing prosthesis
In 1952, the National Research Council Committee on Prosthetics Research and Development led officials at the VA to conclude that a totally new service delivery system for artificial limbs was required to assure the highest quality of functional gain for limb-wounded veterans. To implement this, special training programs were set up at NYU and UCLA to bring in limb-fitting personnel for an intensive 12-week training course that led to certification for applications of the new technologies to VA standards. On completion of the course a "limb fitter" became a Certified Prosthetist, a status subsequently required by the VA for reimbursement of services to veterans. The program continued for more than two years until the national need was met. The information was later transferred to various medical school prosthetics and orthotics training centers throughout the world. [It is my understanding that UCLA was teaching upper extremity prosthetics, and NYU lower extremity prosthetics. The American Board for Certification in Orthotics and Prosthetics was founded in 1948. "Certified Prosthetist" is registered to ABC. --personal correspondence with Al Pike, CP)
1950's -- RGP initiated the use of fiberglass materials
**"The period from 1945-1965 is now viewed as a time of unparalleled scientific and technical advances in O&P. Key findings from this era still provide the conceptual basis for virtually all contemporary techniques. Although many factors have contributed to the long-term successes of this era, two key aspects were the coordination of research and evaluation efforts and the long-term commitment of significant governmental funding.
Although the field is currently in a relatively high state of clinical development, most advances in recent decades have been technical. Little or no advances in fundamental principles have occurred since the termination of significant governmental funding for O&P research and development in the 1960's"--from Prosthetics/Orthotics Research for the Twenty-first Century: Summary 1992 Conference Proceedings--John W. Michael, MEd, CPO, John H Bowker, MD." (personal correspondence with Al Pike, CP)
In the 1980's-- Companies began to turn away from fiberglass and begin to the use of flexible, thermoplastic materials which reduce the weight of the prosthesis and maximize comfort. The two piece socket design has given amputees a more freedom of movement and energy than before. The custom, total-contact, suction design has practically eliminated pistoning in the socket, increased stability and the ability to maximize energy storing potential.
**Fiberglass along with carbon fiber are still used today to make light, one piece sockets for prostheses. (personal correspondence with Al Pike, CP)
Currently--the Iraq War
- Attitudes are changing to keep service members in the service. They get sent to Walter Reed and Brooke to completely rehab so they can stay in the service. That is the goal, and they are getting really good rehab to accomplish it. The military is giving it all the latest technology. The VA is going to have to change when they start dealing with these service members when they are vets. They will be used to having the latest, most technological advanced prosthetics.
**The VA has established four Polytrauma Centers for OEF/OIF and works closely with the DOD to provide the same new prosthetic technology to veterans of all conflicts. Current planing is to establish Amputee Care Centers following the new CARF Amputee Care Standards. (personal correspondence with Al Pike, CP)
- DARPA's program, Revolutionizing Prosthetics, seeks to develop a "single prosthetic arm system that is suitable for trans-humeral and shoulder disarticulation amputees". This would revolutionize the entire field of prosthetics through the use of neurally controlled devices that will "restore full motor and sensory capability to upper extremity amputee patients. This revolutionary prosthesis will be controlled, feel, look and perform like the native limb,"
Currently, Landmines World-Wide
- It is estimated that there are between 15,000 and 20,000 new casualties caused by landmines and unexploded ordnance each year. That means there are some 1,500 new casualties each month, more than 40 new casualties a day, at least two new casualties per hour. Most of the casualties are civilians and most live in countries that are now at peace.
- In Cambodia, for example there are over 45,000 landmine survivors recorded between 1979 and 2005. These survivors often (almost always) have limb-loss. Most of these people are civilians. (Source: Landmine Monitor Report 2005)
Currently, January 2008--Sports
I am amazed by this story. It shows just how far prosthetics have come. Maybe we are getting to the "Six Million Dollar Man".
South African double amputee Oscar Pistorius, who runs with carbon fibre blades attached to his legs, will not be allowed to compete in Beijing.
A report commissioned by the International Association of Athletics Federations says the prosthetics used by Pistorius gave him an advantage over other runners.
"Pistorius was able to run with his prosthetic blades at the same speed as the able-bodied sprinters with about 25 percent less energy expenditure," the report concluded.
There are three main military centers in the United States that deal with amputees, prosthetics and rehabilitation. *** They are :
- Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington, DC which has dealt with war-related
- Brooke Army Medical Center at Fort Sam Houston, TX. Walter Reed has dealt with war-related amputations and prosthetics for decades. The Department of Rehabilitation at Brooke opened early in 2005.
- San Diego's C-5 Rehab Center*** opened September 2006
Liberating Technologies of Holliston, MA
- The company designs and manufactures prosthetic devices such as the Boston Digital™ Arm System and the VariGrip™ prosthetic controller for below-elbow amputees. These are new state-of-the-art microprocessor-based prosthetic controllers that can be customized to accommodate the individual user's needs rather than requiring the user to adapt to the controller.
- Also distributes products for three of the leading international suppliers of powered prostheses; RSLSteeper of England, VASI of Canada and Centri of Sweden.
- The company also supplies powered prosthetic accessories such as: batteries, chargers, hands, wrists, elbows and shoulder joints, electrodes and other input devices as well as silicone and PVC cosmetic gloves and custom high-definition cosmetic covers.
- Was originally established in 1974 by a group of faculty members and researchers at the University of Utah, led by Dr. Stephen Jacobsen.
- First made available in 1981, the Utah Artificial Arm is the premier myoelectric prosthesis for elbow, hand, and wrist. It represents the advanced combination of technology, superior performance, and cosmetic appearance, for above elbow and higher level amputees.
- In 1997, the second generation Utah Arm, called the Utah Arm 2, or "U2," replaced the original version, with major improvements in the electronics, motor and transmission. The U2 brought a new level of rugged dependability and user friendliness to the Utah Arm.
- In 2004, microprocessor technology was incorporated into the Utah Arm 3. Two microcontrollers are programmed for the elbow and hand, thus allowing separate inputs and therefore simultaneous control of both. This allows the wearer to operate the elbow and hand at the same time for more natural function than was possible before. In addition, the U3 uses a computer interface which greatly simplifies fine tuning the elbow and hand controls. Many veterans of the Iraqi war have been fitted with the Utah Arm 3 at Walter Reed Army Medical Center and Brooke Army Medical Center.
- Motion Control was acquired by the Fillauer Companies in January 1997, and became part of one of the most comprehensive orthotic and prosthetic development and manufacturing companies in the world. Fillauer is headquartered in Chattanooga, Tennessee, and Motion Control continues to operate in Salt Lake City, Utah.
Otto Bock of Duderstadt, Germany**
- The company was started in the year 1919 by the prosthetist Otto Bock to supply thousands of war veterans with prostheses and orthopedic products. He found the demand could not be met with traditional artisan methods. He developed the idea of manufacturing prosthetic components in series production and to deliver these directly to the orthopedic mechanics on site. This was the cornerstone for the orthopedic industry.
- From the very beginning, he continually tested new materials for their applicability in manufacturing processes. This made him a forerunner in the use of aluminum parts, which he was applying to prosthetics as early as the 1930s. His steadily growing business would later employ a staff of 600.
- C-Leg Series is has a fully microprocessor-controlled knee joint. It allows give a natural gait pattern. It is allows safe, smooth walking at different speeds and on all surfaces.
RGP Prosthetic Research Center in San Diego
- Have been innovators since the beginning when prosthetics were still made with wood.
- They were one of the first 100 facilities in the country to receive a certificate of approval from the American Board of Certification (ABC).
- Guth co-developed the CAT-CAM Ischial Containment suction socket (John Sabolich and Kevin Carroll--patent 636421)***in 1985 which revolutionized the quality of life for above knee amputees. By containing the Ischiam bone, Guth aligned the pelvis with the femur enabling amputees to walk and run leg over leg instead of kicking and dragging the leg forward. "By containing the Ischiam and providing a lightweight suction fit, we are able to put the prosthesis in a position that is aligned with the body allowing amputees to walk with a natural gait pattern," said Guth.
- One of the first facilities in the United States to obtain the BioSculptor computer aided design system, they continue to search for the most accurate fitting techniques that ensure a total-contact suction fit. "Our goal is to design a custom prosthesis that fits the lifestyle of amputees, not one that the amputee has to adjust their life to."
- Has more than thirty years' experience in the design and production of high-tech orthopaedic devices.
- Their newest platform is Bionic Technology - a precise fusion of artificial intelligence and human physiology that is transforming the technological landscape.
- Power Knee -- replaces the concentric muscle activity of the quadriceps and can lift the user from a seated position, support the user when ascending inclines, and power them up stairs. It has an active pendulum motion that propels the user forward and enhances the pelvic rotation for a more natural gait.
- PROPRIO FOOT -- Angling itself appropriately, it also helps amputees to sit and stand up easily and more naturally. It, also, has a calibrated alignment control feature. Overall, the effect is a feeling of improved proprioception with a more balanced, symmetric and confident gait with reduced wear and tear on the back, hips and knees.
- Incorporated in 1988 upon completion of the first TruStep Foot prototype, designed and built by David L. Robinson.
- Provides the most anatomically correct prosthetic feet available today.
- End-users of College Park products are lower limb amputees of all ages who maintain low to high activity levels.
- Has a corporate history with products dating back to WWII.
- SNK 100 Knee Series -- feature pneumatic cylinders that automatically optimize the swing back speed to ensure a smooth and natural transition during changes in walking speed. They are constructed of high strength titanium that is both light and durable. The compact design can be easily used for women and children. The load brake locks flexion during stance phase and releases during swing phase for a smooth motion and stable stance.
- They are a member of the Blatchford Group of companies. They are at the forefront of developing digital, electronic, and intelligent interface systems to enhance the lives of people with limited mobility.
- Founded in 1907 by a double amputee, William E Arbogast who was injured in a railroad accident at age 21years. One leg was amputated above the knee, the other below the knee.
- The Earthwalk 2 Flexible Keel Foot and Ankle System provides freedom of mobility that is more natural. The "late stop" ankle feature allows for easy roll over so the foot can maintain foot flat longer. This action is important for less-active amputees who require more stability and less dynamic response.
- Magnum Heavy-Duty (HD) System was created to stand up to the pressure of higher weight (up to 350 lb) patients, ensuring that they can continue to lead the active, self-sufficient lives.
- The GeoFlex Knee is a friction-controlled polycentric knee, created for amputees who need stability but do not want a manual locking knee. Those who are less active, or just learning to walk (U.S. Activity Levels 1 & 2), are well suited for this knee. Amputees experience stability for up to 20 degrees of flexion under load, and feel secure and confident with each step. This unique knee accommodates a hip flexion contracture without giving up knee stability and allows for easier cosmetic finishing.
**Some corrections and additions made February 14, 2008 after corresponding with Al Pike, CP. I'd like to thank him for his contributions.
***Further corrections/additions made February 15, 2008 after further correspondence with Al Pike, CP. I want to thank him for helping me get it right.
Amputations of the Lower Extremity; Janos Ertl MD and others; eMedicine Article, May 11, 2007
Lower Limb Prosthetics; Brian Kelly DO and others; eMedicine Article, Nov 2, 2007
Upper Limb Prosthetics; Brian Kelly DO and others; eMedicine Article, Oct 10, 2007
American Academy of Orthotists and Prosthetists (AAOP)
American Orthotists and Prosthetists Association (AOPA)
Revolutionizing Prosthetics; Muphen R Whitney; Military Medical Technology Online Archives, Sep 29, 2005 in Volume: 9 Issue: 6
Faculty Pioneer Development Of Advanced Artificial Limbs --UCLA History
History of Prostheses; University of Iowa Medical Museum
International Campaign to Ban Landmines (ICBL) -- I strongly believe in this.
***Prosthetic Reconstructions: Making the Industry, Re-Making the Body, Modeling the Nation; Lisa Herschback; History Workshop Journal 44 (1997): 23-57 (shared with me via a PDF file by Al Pike, CP)
SurgeonsBlog -- Confessional; Aug 3, 2007
GruntDoc -- I cut off a finger the other day; Nov 19, 2007
Notes of an Aneshesioboist -- Amputation; Jan 23, 2008
other things amanzi -- callous; Feb 5, 2008
War Amputees--Iraq and Afghanistan (the entire blog)


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Full-back Felix Jones and centre James Downey return to Munster's starting XV for Sunday's clash with Treviso in Italy.
Full-back and centre Felix Jones and James Downey return to Munster's starting XV for Sunday's clash with Treviso in Italy.
Felix Jones and James Downey return to Munster's starting XV for the first time since the game against Racing Metro in mid January, for the trip to Italy and the RaboDirect PRO12 clash with Benetton Treviso at Stadio di Monigo on Sunday (3pm).
Jones had minor surgery on a knee – after the Heineken Cup game against Racing Metro on January 20 – that has kept him sidelined till now.
Downey's last outing was also in that game and he's missed the last two with a rib injury.
Casey Laulala is another who returns to the starting XV for the first time since he partnered Downey in the PRO12 match against Ulster in Thomond Park Stadium just after Christmas.
He did play off the bench in the subsequent games against Blues, Edinburgh and Metro, then missed the next two while back home in New Zealand but returned to action as a 49th minute replacement for Ivan Dineen in Parc y Scarlets last Saturday.
James Coughlan and Tommy O'Donnell return from the Ireland set-up to make the trip as does Damien Varley who was a late withdrawal from the squad last weekend (knee injury) for the trip to Wales.
Meanwhile, Treviso coach Franco Smith will be without several players who will be on international duty with Italy in the six Nations this weekend.
Treviso has been boosted, however, by the return flanker Marco Filippucci, who will be amongst the repalcements.
The match against Munster,marks the return of PRO12 matches to Stadio Monigo in Treviso.
Form: Benetton Treviso's only win so far in 2013 was 17-14 at home to Ospreys in the European Cup on 20 January. The Italians have won three of their last four home games at the Stadio Monigo. Munster have lost two of their last three games in the RaboDirect PRO12, but have won two of their last three away from home in the competition. The Munstermen tripped up 17-21 in Aironi on their most recent visit to Italy. Treviso's only previous victory over Munster was 19-18 at Stadio Monigo in the RaboDirect PRO12 on 13 February 2011.
The teams:
Treviso: 15 Brendan Williams, 14 Ludovico Nitoglia, 13 Andrea Pratichetti, 12 Gideon La Grange, 11 Giulio Toniolatti, 10 Alberto Di Bernardo, 9 Fabio Semenzato, 8 Christian Loamanu, 7 Filippo Giusti, 6 Dean Budd, 5 Corniel Van Zyl (c), 4 Valerio Bernabò, 3 Jacobus Roux, 2 Giovanni Maistri, 1 Michele Rizzo.
Replacements: 16 Franco Sbaraglini, 17 Matteo Muccignat, 18 Pedro Di Santo, 19 Marco Fuser, 20 Marco Filippucci, 21 James Ambrosini, 22 Luca Morisi, 23 Tommaso Iannone.
Munster: 15 Felix Jones, 14 Denis Hurley, 13 Casey Laulala, 12 James Downey, 11 Johne Murphy, 10 Iain Keatley, 9 Duncan Williams, 8 James Coughlan. 7 Tommy O'Donnell, 6 Paddy Butler, 5 Billy Holland, 4 Ian Nagle, 3 Stephen Archer, 2 Mike Sherry (c) 1 Wian du Preez.
Replacements: 16 Damien Varley, 17 John Ryan, 18 BJ Botha, 19 D Foley, 20 CJ Stander, 21 Cathal Sheridan, 22 JJ Hanrahan, 23 Ivan Dineen.
Date: Saturday, February 23
Kick-off: 15:00
Venue: Stadio di Monigo
Referee: Neil Paterson (SRU)
Assistant referees: Stefano Traversi, Stefano Marrama (both FIR)
Television match official: Mauro Dordolo (FIR)

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Vick's problem isn't that he can't play, it's that he can't stay healthy. Hes still a above average QB when hes out there.
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When someone annoys u, it takes 42 muscles in ur face 2 frown. BUT, it only takes 4 muscles 2 extend ur arm & b!tch-slap that mother@*?!&! upside the head!!
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FlyHiJets, on 09 March 2014 - 02:54 PM, said:
Very surprised you didn't use the word "thug" in your explanation on why he shouldn't be signed.
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Jetsman05, on 09 March 2014 - 05:34 PM, said:
Why would I? He's never tried to rob us blind or believe he's better than he is. Vick knows his limitations and is not a legend in his own mind. He's a piece of $hit when it comes to animals but he did his time. I wouldn't welcome him with open arms or cheer for him to be successful, but then again, I don't cheer for the name on the back of the uniform like so many others here do.
It's kind of funny though how you try taking a cheap shot at me but yet your wonder boy is 1 and done in Tampa, therefore screwing us once again with his greed. Our 3rd rounder just turned into a 4th by 4pm today.
When someone annoys u, it takes 42 muscles in ur face 2 frown. BUT, it only takes 4 muscles 2 extend ur arm & b!tch-slap that mother@*?!&! upside the head!!
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@LesBowen: I'm pretty sure, given that he's still sitting out there on the market, Mike Vick is not ruling out a backup role here. But are Eagles open?


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Comments: These frogs are by far the best I've ever used in a cast & retrieve style. They cut through mats & my hook up ratio has gone up by far. They are very durable & are worth every penny.
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Comments: I've tried all kicker leg style hollow bodies and this one's the best so far. Hook up ratio is very good. Caught 6 keepers first time out and it's holding up well. This frog is best suited for flat pads, pea soup, light scum and open water. It does not do well in the thick pads and real nasty stuff. I only gave it 4 stars because its makes a huge splash and if I skipped it under docks the hooks would come off the body.
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Comments: Buy this frog! Stanley did a great job on this frog .. It solves the stop and retrieve problem of the ribbit and has a great kicking and splashing sound. Above average hook up ratio due to the ultra soft body. It will also come through slop fairly well . Only drawback is body gets torn near the hooks after a few good fish. No big deal for the price , plus you get two.
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I am going to preface this that if you do not want to know the truth about Star Trek Into Darkness and who Benedict Cumberbatch is really playing, you should not be reading this.
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Too late.
It's kind of like saying to a patriot we're changing the American flag to a hammer and sickle. Suck it up.
This remake doesn't even make sense. Even if the time line has been changed, when Kirk's father dies, the previous point of time did not. Before the Romulans had come through the Black Hole, the time line had not changed and there would be no reason why Khan would be any different than what the original series had made him to be.
If JJ had any brains, he would have picked up one of the other episodes and made a film instead of taking an already highly successful movie and re-making it.
A good example of how to deal with years of Canon is what 'Doctor Who' has done...use what you works and ignore the rest...there is always a tie to tie things together later if needed.
Wow that sentence got away from me!
I'm not worked up at all. Just once again shaking my head at how addicted Trek fans are to what wasn't working. Watch some Voyager and tell me again how JJ ruined Trek.
No it's not. It's pointing out that they hold the show in too high a reverence. The fans really are a big part of why Trek canon because an unwieldy mess, they're the ones that started keeping track of which button Sulu pushed. TOS had no real canon to speak of, major parts of Trek (including this whole "Federation" thing) were popped in after the show was running. It's obsessive fans that analyzed every frame and tried to turn a show that really had no cross episode continuity into a cohesive structure. Then Rodenberry went and encouraged them by trying to solidify the canon in TNG and thus the albatross was born.
Back in the day "reboots" were common. Except nobody called them reboots, everybody just understood that the new Flash Gordon series/ serial/ comic wasn't going to try to pick up the continuity of any of the ones that came before. Everything was stand alone, even when it had familiar names.
Who says Khan's any different? He's in different CIRCUMSTANCES but we don't know if the character changed.
I agree he shouldn't have picked up Khan. ESPECIALLY not for the second movie. I understand the temptation, Khan's one of the best characters in the history of Trek. But this puts him on a bad path of mirroring the first movies, should have picked up somebody else.
Trek fans prevent that. There's a ridiculously obsessive crowd of fans in Trek that demand every frame be worshiped as tight canon. They're the ones that still wind up hassling Takei and Koenig for pushing the "wrong" button. Once Roddenberry decided to placate that crowd in TNG and really try to tighten up the canon the bad path was set. Just look at the incredible whining that came when the Enterprise communicators were revealed to be smaller than the TOS ones. I think that hew and cry right there was why any smart writer that gets tied to Trek would want to reboot, the canon crowd cannot be pleased, best to cut them off.
"I read the spoilers and I plan on seeing the movie when it comes out."
Me too! It looks like it's going to be excellent, to me at least.
I accept the "fact" that the galactic timeline has been rearranged in this reboot and that will alter the tales of the Star Trek gang as we know them. That's not a bad thing, again, to me at least.
SOBB They messing with Star Trek Wrath of Khan the alternative universe HELLO
THis going sucks I THINK SO
Where Khan hot body still dead LOL!
Yeah...gotta love Riccardo's pecks...:)
Remaking or rebooting films is fine if you don't really care about the characters. Star Trek fans love their characters and to make this horrific mistake is just unforgivable. Ricardo Montalban is Khan. To have some English twit play the role is sacrilege.
Sorry but out in the actual entertainment business remaking and rebooting is the norm. Ricardo Montalban is dead, he ain't doing anymore Khan, but that's no reason for the character to go on a shelf. One nice thing about having a brit play the character is that at least the accent can make sense, lots of Indians with British accents, not many with Mexican. And anybody that doesn't like it there's the Stephen King rule: the old version is out there and available.
I may go see the movie Star Trek see if it is right I hope don't suck
Two movies I want see too Wolverine and Iron Man 3 also Superman Man of steel
It's not going to suck.
Man of Steel looks FANTASTIC!!!
Yep, then people say, "Star Trek use to be really good until they screwed around with it"
People are still talking about how Lucus F'd up adding Jar Jar Binks.
Part of the problem is as a franchise ages the fans are willing to forgive more sins. Truth be told Trek was NEVER really good. Half the episodes of TOS, including most of season 3, stink. They're hackneyed, cliche (even at the time) with actually very bad acting from most of the cast. But we love it, so we forgive it it's occasional "brain, brain and brain, what is brain" because there's Space Seed and Tribbles.
And of course the tradition continues after that, the first 3 season of TNG are atrocious, first half of season 4 is pretty good, but then for the second half they did a bunch of single character episodes and we quickly found out that Picard and Data were the only characters that could actually carry a story. 5, 6 and 7 are mostly pretty good, but of course it was during TNG we learned that all holodeck episodes are horrid.
DS9 comparatively started off pretty strong, and got better every season, probably the closest Trek ever got to an actually good show from beginning to end. they even pulled off a couple of god holodeck eps. Then there's Voyager. Worst show ever. Then Enterprise which, in spite of the whining of continuity worshipers, was actually pretty good, until the temporal cold war started, then it went to crap.
And in this world, where probably 70% of the content was crap, crap many of us love but still crap. People boldly declare that JJ ruined Trek. Is it different? Sure. Not as smart as Trek's higher ideals? Yes. But is it as dumb as Gamesters of Triskelion? No. And it's a damn sight better than Voyager. And like a lot of the best Trek it's a fun ride.
You bring in Star Wars. We can see the same thing. Everybody now claims Jar Jar destroyed the series, to which I say one word: Ewoks. Really if you look at the original trilogy the first movie is OK, kind of fun, kind of dorky, but when the legend of Lucas' grand plan comes up always remeber Luke hitting on Leia. Then we get Empire, great movie all the way up until "I am your father Luke" which in and of itself wasn't bad but it put the series on a bad path. Then comes Return, which just stinks. That's where we get the repercussions of Darth Daddy, made worse with sister Leia; Han gets reduced to comic sidekick... and Ewoks. And yet somehow people boldly declare Jar Jar killed it.
The lesson being, objects in the rear view mirror ain't nearly as good as they appear.
I think all the movies kick butt this summer
I really want see Star Trek, Wolverine, Superman Man of Steel and Iron Man 3 movies
Compared to what was out there at the time, it was genius plus it was hopeful, in that humanity had a future.
People didn't expect to watch Shakespeare. They wanted some entertainment and Star Trek gave them that.
TNG are atrocious,
That's because Gene Roddenberry tried to make the future too much of a utopia.
People boldly declare that JJ ruined Trek.
Yes, because he's incestuous when it comes to story telling. ( He's not alone in this and not the worst offender but it gets annoying. ) Try something different, outside of what has already been written. Don't destroy what was good in the process of making something new. I think people who reboot must have limited imagination and want a quick buck. In a universe of infinite possibilities, why are they stuck playing with the same old stuff?
What was good about the old series was how the characters developed, especially in the movies of 2, 3 and 4. Today's movies suck because they are so quick to tell the story, too much action and not enough good dialog. Movies today don't want to build up the characters or their relationships. They only want explosion after explosion then a sex scene.
I am your father Luke which in and of itself wasnt bad but it put the series on a bad path
Here is where I agree with you on that. I was like, ok Darth is Luke's father but then Timothy Zahn went on to write more books on Star Wars series and he used Palpatine as the bad guy again, although it was his clone but still.. A whole galaxy of evil and he had to recycle palpatine?
Then Zahn used the Jedi "twins" of Han and Leia. It's like really? Are all the descendants of Anakin going to be twins? No triplets just to shake things up?
I dunno, I guess that's why I'm off science fiction... It's not as fun as it use to be.
Understand with all my criticism I still love Trek, but as a QA person I look at warts, it's my job and I'm good at it.
The primary problem TOS had is that it was really two different shows. There's the show that built the legend, it really could tell very good thought provoking SF when they took the time to actually write it, and there's even good less thought provoking episodes. Then there's the other show, the cheeseball SF show that cranked out some really dumb SF poorly. I will often sing the praises of Gene Coon (aka "the other Gene") for being the guy that gave us a lot of what makes Trek great (he gave us Khan and Klingons, nuff said). But it's often times telling that his previous gig was Wild Wild West, a show I also love but people from the show admit there was an onset rule "if the story is thin have Bob take his shirt off". You can see a lot of that mentality in Trek, Bill takes his shirt in most of the worst eps.
TNG was held back by a lot of things, Roddenberry killed the writers room with his "no conflict" edict. And appeasing the obsessive fans was a major mistake, that really began the canon problems that shackled 3 more shows and a bunch of movies.
Reboots are primarily to free the writers from the obligations of an unmanageable canon. It re-opens the universe of infinite possibility. There's a reason why in the old days Hollywood didn't do canon, it's limiting, it winds up being a list of reason you can't do that. All the writers that worked on late era Trek talk about that, canon constantly cutting off stories. It's a much freer Trek world if Phase 2 had gotten off the ground, part of Phase 2 was the revelation that TOS was a TV show in the Trek universe, that's a reboot. Should have been another reboot after Voyager for Enterprise, leave that 21 seasons behind and go forth with a more open universe. I find it interesting, and creative, that JJ did his reboot on camera, most of the time when that decision is made they just punt it, put out word that it's a new world all that old stuff doesn't apply and just tell their story.
I never saw much character development in 3 and 4. 2 had quite a bit, but 3 and 4 were just bad.
Too many movies are made these days for blanket statements. Yeah Michael Bay has never met dialog he wouldn't replace with an explosion. But there's a lot of character development in JJs first Trek, Kirk evolves dramatically, and I really love the conflict between him and Spock. Things still get blown up, but it's no Bay movie. I think JJ brings a lot fun in, his Trek is a fun movie, with stuff. Trek had become very not fun.
I still have not seen the first one.
But as I understand it with time travel and other universes stuff the change in history is easily explained. It's science fiction after all.
"I still have not seen the first one."
IMHO, it's an excellent movie, whether you're a Trekkie or not.
"But as I understand it with time travel and other universes stuff the change in history is easily explained. Its science fiction after all."
B I N G O ! ! ! Looking forward to seeing this flick, should be good, if not great.
Right. ST and Man of Steel look great to me.
but 3 and 4 were just bad.
The replacement Saavak was acted like a liberal vulcan. I couldn't stand her. I liked McCoy's part but three need to be played out for number 4. I hated the artsy farts part where they went back in time but over all I liked 4. Main reason, they got a chance to get off the set.
I like Gene Coon also. The other Gene tried to put too much of himself into Kirk. I think he must of like the shirt being pulled off more than Shatner.
I've been watching other shows by Abrams and sometimes he scores and in other he flops badly. I had high hopes for Super 8 but if was terrible.
Spot on. Regeneration is a built-in "refresh" that allows different actors to play the same role.
I liked the comedy of them interacting with the 20th century in 4, but other than that I found it mostly pretentious and silly. Trek and time travel plots have rarely mixed well in my book. And the whole Spock resurrecting because of the Genesis device just threw me out of 3 and devalues the end of 2, not to mention Shatner running through all possible readings of "Klingon bastard you killed my son" (whom he didn't know existed until a few weeks ago).
I like Super 8, it's light, but it's a solid piece of homage work to ET and Close Encounters. Although it's funny I like it because I hate ET. Might be the QA guy in me, I'm very good at setting my expectations, I expected an enjoyable piece of fluff from Super 8 and that's what I got. For his Trek I was hoping for a fun ride and none of Braga's UN in space crap, and that's what he delivered.
Why do you hate E.T.? It's a masterpiece.
Boring, hackneyed, soppy, oddly messianic and even when I first saw it when I was a kid and it first came out I felt it talked down to me. Really if it hadn't had so much hype I might be able to like it, but it was one of my first major Hollywood disappointments. All the advertising had pushed it as the latest EPIC from the Mighty Spielberg and what I got when I got to the theater was a thin pablum kids' movie that felt like a better produced version of the crap Disney had been cranking out for a decade. If it had been advertised as a kids' movie I might have liked it, but I walked in expecting Close Encounters and got Apple Dumpling Alien.
It was from the point of view of a child so it had their emotional state as well. Historically it was a pretty risky venture...in 1981, films about children (pre-teens) were box office poison an had been for a long time.
They were box office poison because Disney had cranked out nothing but crap for a long time, which nobody wanted to see.
Really if it had just been advertised that way I might have liked it. But it wasn't, it was advertised as a grown up movie and I came out of the theater feeling lied to and insulted. I've never tried to watch it again, first impressions are lasting impressions.
See! I completely agree with your assertion that the skills of JJ Abrams are right on par with those of the folks responsible for Lost in Space II: Electric Boogaloo!*
Now, we can get on to the important issues like who was hotter Jennie or her sister?
*I mean, they didn't even have Dr. Smith, Will Robinson, Penny or the Robot! Instead of Dr. Maureen Robinson, they shook-up things by bringing in Major Rayner Fleming from Remo Williams. Way outta left field, man.
The other nice bit about regeneration (aside from the fact that actors can leave the show without the whole thing coming to a halt) is that it allows the production crew to improve the set as the budget improves ("Hey guys, let's state that the Tardis also regenerates! Now, we can spend the extra 20 pounds the BBC gave us!"). Also, the regeneration schtick makes for some interesting contract negotiations ("You wanna raise? How about we snuff you instead and replace yer arse?").
A good example of sheer balls in a franchise would also be the Gundam Universes. When those cats get tired of something, they say, "Aw, screw it. Let's just start a whole new universe that also features giant robots blasting things. Okay, who's ready for lunch?"
When I first heard Jar Jar Binks speak, I thought that Amos 'n' Andy deserved an apology.
I always thought of Voyager as more Gilligan's Island in space. Only with Gilligan in charge.
Okay, so played Ginger and Maryann?
I could see the holographic doctor as The Professor.
I think Kes was Ginger and 6 of DD was Maryann. The holodoc always makes me sad, I think he was one of the best characters Trek ever came up with, and completely wasted on the worst show ever.
Hey, it was mediocre, but worst show ever? Did you ever watch Joey?
Seven of Double D, I gotta borrow that one!
Besides the new Kirk and Bones the last Star Trek SUCKED REAL BAD.
Everything, EVERYTHING about it.
Abrams is a Hacks HACK!
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[QUOTEIf jiraiya the badass did use that 30% chakra jutsu, then the used up body can use sage mode, cause just how when kisame and itachi did that, that itachi was able to use sharingan, genjutsu, and even cast genjutsu on naruto with nothing but his finger, kisame was able to use all his broken ass water jutsu and able t control his chakra eating sword, and they weren't even the real itachi n kisame, plus itachi used fire jutsu, and not only is that a uchiha attack, but only konoha ninjas have been able to use fire-based attacks, and the guy that was "itachi" was a sand ninja, so im positive that that sand ninja could use, sharingan, genjutsu same as itachis, and fire jutsu, so to answer your question, he fake jiraiya was able to use sage mode, then again these are all asumptions and predictions, just hope j-man is alive, he r badass.lol[/QUOTE]
Notice when they died, they shift back to their original body, well we don't really see jiraiya's body after he drowned. Another point is that if that is a kagebunshin, or that 30 percent jutsu, jiraiya will still control it ,right?, and he will get the experience after his jutsu was released. So the written code in fukasaku's back will be meaningless then.
I know it will be great if jiraiya still be alive, but for real, there's no way
I have NO clue what type of point your making. He used a frog silhouette technique to control the guy and hide. As far as a fake jiraiya, I doubt a fake jiraiya would have possessed enough chakra to go hermit mode lol. But it was a nice thought though.
I actually found this idea to be quite interesting, although unlikely. He was suggesting that the real Jiraiya was the shinobi Konan told to leave, while the real shinobi from that country was still in the frog belly with the one he "turned into a frog." It's highly unlikely due to the ending Kishimoto portrayed for the supposed KB or other technique. However, it is not out of the realm of possibility.
To be honest, I think this theory still isn't the worst one there has been, but I think it isn't likely. My main reason is cos we could 'see' Jiraiya's thoughts as he drowned. I doubt a clone would start thinking like that, rather he'd probably just dissapear. Also, there was so much drama to Jirayia's death that that's like saying that Asuma is still alive.
There are three types of people in the world. Those who can count, and those who can't.
It is also unlikely since Jiraiya actually "died" before he drowned.
So even how awesome his KBNJ was, it would disappear when he died.
Even if he knew Pain's jutsu, he would transform to the one he used when he died.
So stop it, just stop it.
He died an honorable death. He was a favourite of many people. It's sad seeing him die, but it is a part of the story, and a part of Naruto's growth.
J-man was awesome, just awesome. I would've loved to see more of him, as would all of you.
But please, please, leave him be. He's dead.
Awesome, just awesome
Lmao for cregge, but yes I admit it, I didn't think about the other info all of u posted after my theory, then again kishi could've made it a big deal just to keep the fans hung to naruto and not get bored since te manga isn battle scenes go by slow, I guess the only thing I could say to "defend my theory" would be that,
Jiraiya-sama did travel around the world, who knows what kind of jutsu he knew n learned during that whole time
Well that's all I have really.lol
I feel like a failure cause of all those nice proven facts.lol
Then to SolidSphere's comment, it could and anyting can happen, after all its just manga
If orochimaru can use edo tensai to make 2 copy of the real Hokage, it's easy for them to make a copy of a random shinobi (Even in the exam those 2 shinobi used a transformation to turn into kid) So if you think properly, if the guy who ran out after ths ilhouette technique, it could be Jiraiya for real, aka we though the Hachibi was dead, he wasn't. Could be same for Jiraiya. Oh well, no one know but kishi. Btw, too, people think orochimaru's dead, but beside Kabutomaru we sae a white snake after Itachi's fight which probly mean that oro's still alive somewhere. so never let hope goes for Jiraiya punk!
Hold on... just.. hold on a sec...
Asuma is DEAD?!!! :-o
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According to a new post on the Dungeon Fighter Online site, the game will begin a ramp-down process on April 11th in preparation for a June 13, 2013 shutdown of the three year old game published by Nexon.
For more than three years, our teams worked hard in hopes of building a strong community through new content updates, service fixes, and events. We tirelessly battled hackers and farmers. We even had the honor of presenting the game to you at E3 and PAX. However, Dungeon Fighter Online was not able to grow beyond its very special and proud core following.Sadly, Dungeon Fighter Online has not attracted enough player interest to properly service the game. Internally, we struggled deeply with the popularity of DFO in North America as the title is immensely popular overseas. For more than three years, we went through many milestones and several pushes before we came to this very difficult decision.
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[mod edit] China had forbidden console games generally. So many f2p mmo games popped up. It doesnt matter how many play that game there. They are used with bad quality games-where we are spoiled. Succes there, doesnt mean success here.
It worked in the beginning-where the new f2p era shined for a short time. But pls, we have had so many bad games imported here- that its enough.
DFO wasnt a good game either. And the ip bann made it hard for europe players to get even in and try. [mod edit]
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The artstyle was intentional, it wasn't some exercize in laziness.
They had actually drawn the inspiration of the game on 90's brawlers, with a focus on the D&D arcade games on the CAPCOM CPS2 hardware.
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The artstyle was intentional, it wasn't some exercize in laziness. They had actually drawn the inspiration of the game on 90's brawlers, with a focus on the D&D arcade games on the CAPCOM CPS2 hardware.
Yeah, it reminded me of the Guilty Gear games.
Gee I wonder why is this closing.
Can't possibly have anything to do with:
I just had to sign up for this forum just to reply to your comment.
If you think that nexon play a less significant role than the quality of the game itself in this tragedy, you are definitely wrong. I've seen too many comments that address the problem that nexon has already in many gaming sites out there announcing the death of DFO.
I can definitely say that DnF IS A GREAT GAME, despite it's success in China, Korea, Japan, and the recent revival in Taiwan, it's one of the most popular games out there, and nexon just doesn't seem to give a sxxt. I assume that you are just one of those 3D game players who play WOW and COD or something like that who think that an advanced graphic system is superior and that's what makes a game a "good game".
DnF has one of the most complex yet well constructed, fascinating, and creative pvp system, it's why people miss and cherish it.
PS: writing to the first comment here, kinda old
Out of date? Its an art style. You kids just don't know the power of 2d sprite gaming haha I'm old.
Originally posted by Novusod
DFO was not bad. The graphics where 20 years out of date though about equal to Moral Kombat Arcade games from 1993. If DFO was playable on Smart Phone I bet it would be huge.
Anyway, this is a fun online beat em up. Played for a while. The grind started to melt my face a little so I took a break. Too bad its going away. Always was a fun one to jump back in from time to time.
Let me say this to all who did or did not play Dungeon Fighter Online. I have played this game since season 1 act 1 the beginning of Female Gunners. It was the best game to play when I played it. I hit cap 70 about the same time Male mage was introduced. Of all the nights and day of my time I spend on this game. I have done so. Many players had spend their money on this game. Heck I won one of Nexon's contest during the time just for the sake hoping people would see anyone can play. Now, to say lack of players is just insulted us who have been playing for a long time. I am not going to rant about it because it is true as you can surf around of people's reaction.
Now many find ways to go into Taiwan Dungeon and Fighter as well as China Dungeon and Fighter. However, it must goes with the language block. Which several people have made programs to translate most of the items and what it says. And this is from people who really love the game. Unfortunately for some like myself who cannot go in to these areas hoping to play it would be difficult. Does it makes us not love the game? No. We all do. Those that find ways to play China Dungeon and Fighter as well as Taiwan Dungeon and Fighter have started over persay with their characters and how to play.
What it all mean? Meaning that it cannot be the players if the players would still play this lovely game as we have to find other means of doing so. It would hinder people with the language but eventually, that would turn out better when eventually someone either in China or Taiwan would make an english text for all of the items. Those who do got in they go by memorized of items from DFO. Anyone can still play if they are desperate enough to go to overseas Dungeon and Fighter.
If it ever comes back here, you would find it would flood. From those that play the China or Taiwan version to the people who simply waited so long for it. Just like a friend told me no one knows. That news of Nexon Shutting down and several of us posted on Youtube our goodbye remarks to the great game.
Now for those who says about smartphones someone had made an app for one. A female gunner quest. So just find it. We still have the Xbox Dungeon and Fighter fall of Hendon Myre still but again we have to pay for that version.
Bottom Line: The game is still available just need to jump through hoops to play it.


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© Claes Oldenburg and Coosje Van Bruggen
In Miniature soft drum set the essential property of a drum set―its ability to beat out a noise―has been removed. We are left instead with an unstructured mass of canvas. With its rigidity gone, the drum set seems organic and vulnerable. The yielding quality of the sculpture's material ensures it is never entirely static: subject to the forces of time and change, it eschews strict form and takes on a less familiar identity.
In his work, Claes Oldenburg, a seminal figure in the Pop Art movement and a leading proponent of soft sculpture, wanted 'to create an independent object which has its existence in a world outside both the real world as we know it and the world of art. It's an independent thing which has its own power, just to sit there and remain something of a mystery.'[1]
In 1967 Oldenburg decided to make a large, soft drum set inspired by the cylindrical architecture of the Guggenheim Museum[2]. Two years later, the small canvas model that he created as a prototype for Giant soft drum set became the basis for the editioned Miniature soft drum set. Presented in a wooden box inside a soft, opaque vinyl bag, and accompanied by a set of six suggested positions for display, the work is a typical example of Oldenburg's experiments with collapsed form.
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Posted on 03/07/2006 6:30:18 PM PST by southernnorthcarolina
How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy.
The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.
A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.
Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it.
No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome.
-- Sir Winston Churchill (The River War, first edition, Vol. II, pages 248-50 [London: Longmans, Green & Co., 1899]).
Looks like Winnie had Islam sussed a long time ago.
Well stated!
Too bad Muslims will be the majority in England by 2010!
They're already the majority in Leeds, Bristol, Manchester and two other cities in Churchill's beloved homeland.
Churchill was not even 25 years of age when he wrote that.
Interesting, too, that Winston was 24 years old when he wrote this. I'm pretty sure I wasn't that wise at 24. Oh, wait, I'm still not.
Five seconds. Dang.
Truly. He would've been a helluva Freeper.
As the horn is to the rhinoceros and the stinger is to the wasp, so the Mohammedan faith is to the Arabs.
n. pl. vo·ta·ries
1.a. A person bound by vows to live a life of religious worship or service.
b. A devout adherent of a cult or religion; a committed worshiper: the votaries of Aphrodite.
2. A person who is fervently devoted, as to a leader or ideal; a faithful follower.
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They're already the majority in Leeds, Bristol, Manchester and two other cities in Churchill's beloved homeland.
Frightening! Even more so if I lived in England. Will the Brits wake up? Is it too late already?
I've read three of his books on WWII. Got to finish the set; my writing improves greatly after reading Churchill.
How many books in the set?
The age is of little concern. The words ring true yet today reinforcing the text "He who fails to learn the lessons of history is fated to repeat it."
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Churchill was born in 1874. He must have written this in his early twenties.
There are 6 of his early books at above URL.
Several formats also.
What a brilliant man. The eloquence is mesmerizing and unparalleled.
Churchill's The Second World War, mostly written after his 1945 defeat and before his comeback, consists of six volumes. Churchill wrote elsewhere: "History will be kind to me, for I shall write it." Certainly true with respect to The Second World War.
I'd never be so presumptuous as to say that a given work is "required reading," but this one is close.
And your text too. :)
I can not find this quote in the on-line edition version.
I did finally get around to reading William Shirer's The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, and it was excellent.
"No stronger retrograde force exists in the world."
It would be good to have a thread of all such *politically incorrect* statements from famous statesmen and such to stand tall next to some of today's pablum.
"Churchill was not even 25 years of age when he wrote that."
The man was brilliant, brave and blunt -- oh, and I think he was learning disabled in his youth. An extraordinary man. Haven't seen his kind since.
Proving once again - The more things change the more they stay the same!
Great quote! Churchill nailed Hitler and he has pegged the Muslims. To bad people are ignoring him now just as they did when he nailed Hitler. Unfortunately many who don't see his wisdom call themselves conservatives.
Do it. You won't regret it. Great inside account not only of the war itself, but of its root causes, and the buildup to it. Of course, the fact that Churchill was a (or perhaps the) key player makes it better.
Contrast with his A History of the English Speaking Peoples, four volumes ©1956-58. I love Winnie, but God, what a plodder. Of course, he was well into his 80s when he wrote it. But way too broad in scope, and the author didn't star in the work.
His writing reminds me of Mencken. And that's very high praise.
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If any religion had the chance of ruling over England, nay Europe within the next hundred years, it could be Islam--George Bernard Shaw
Yep a very smart non politically correct man.
I agree, nearly a must read.
Good stuff from old Winston. Posted many times in threads. Third time in a month on its own. Bares repeating.
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Hey, this is really good. Thanks for the thread.
Churchill had combat experience fighting the fuzzy wuzzy muzzy terrorists of his day.
Churchill was also an excellent painter. Amazingly the first time he picked up a paint brush he was 40 years old. He was going through depression at the time and was looking for something to occupy himself.
I've read that he was diagnosed as being barely above retarded when he was a child.
I'll take that to mean merely misunderstood. He must have had a hard life coming up.
We could sure use a world leader like that now. His resolution can only be matched by our own President.
Of course, Churchill didn't have England's press to fight off every time he did something either.
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On June 10 at 11:42 a.m. a motorcyclist failed to negotiate the wide turn on the north end of SR-10 heading into Castle Dale. He was traveling south with a group of motorcycles at the time of the accident. The cyclist behind him said he saw him brake, but he didn't turn and headed straight and went off the other side of the road. Luckily there wasn't any oncoming traffic at the time he crossed the northbound lane. It isn't known why he failed to turn. Trooper Don Barry is investigating the accident. Rider fatigue or inattentiveness could be the cause.
Emery County ambulance personnel and sheriff's deputies assisted at the scene.
When he left the road he hit a ditch and flipped the bike. He sustained a left leg injury, broken arm and head trauma. He was wearing a full face mask helmet at the time of the accident.
Douglas Lund from Provo was taken to Castleview Hospital in Price by ambulance. He is 54 years old. He was riding a rented Harley at the time of the accident.