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I responded to the Battleground discussion thread for TESO with this post and also wanted to post it here as I consider this to be a very important topic of discussion and something Zenimax needs to seriously consider in the coming days. Adding these 2 features to the game will help Zenimax and players improve PvP much faster, more effectively, and much more efficiently then simply addressing player feedback in Cryodiil which is a highly contested area that is either overrun and out of balance in favor of a particular alliance and/or players simply are too overwhelmed and intimidated by it. This is a very important endgame feature of TESO that really needs to be much more thoroughly tested then it was during the actual testing phases.
Zenimax needs to add DUELING and ARENAS first and foremost! Why do you ask? Well..
Templates need to be thoroughly tested and balanced so there are more then a few to several optimal templates so as to add the air of anticipation and excitement as there will be more mystery and suspense to every encounter as it should be in large scale battles or even small skirmishes. This also improves player interest in TESO as there are more viable options for players concerning class/template choices and the evolution of their character and the game in general.
DUELING allows players to engage each other safely within the confines of their own realm/alliance so players can learn, adapt, and help improve class/template balance
ARENAS are also very important as they allow players to fight 2 vs 2, 3 vs 3, 5 vs 5, Keep defense vs Keep siege, etc...so small group encounters are optimized as any PUG ZERG can be taken out by an organized ZERG comprised of small but very effective, cohesive groups working together and assisting the overall ZERG
DUELING AND ARENAS allow players to concentrate on class/template balance for overall PvP balance in Cryodiil campaigns. This part of the game needs to be addressed and optimized a long while before Battlegrounds is even remotely considered. This discussion is wayyyyyy to early in the game.
This game is headed to console by the end of this year so there is another good reason to hold off on this debate and allow the players/developers to work together in the coming days so everyone can enjoy a much more polished, balanced, and optimal release of the console version of The Elder Scrolls Online!
Any graphical, audio, or gameplay restrictions not seen in other mmos but found in FFXIV can be blamed on one thing.
Originally posted by Ehllfhire
They already stated in the may 1st interview there will be no duelling, arenas, or battlegrounds, as all would kill off cyrodil pvp.
<(-_-)> There will be....there will be <(-_-)>
people need to stop trying to force other games hand in try to change things..its what makes game diff from each other and unique
dueling..just what this game needs everyone outside of town dueling all day instead of the pvp battle area being full or busy..kinda reminds me of another game?
Originally posted by Ehllfhire
They already stated in the may 1st interview there will be no duelling, arenas, or battlegrounds, as all would kill off cyrodil pvp.
They also said they might add Dueling in the future and that it wouldn't be hard to do.
Plus they go back on what they say ALL the time (re: chat bubbles, forced racial factions, no imperials) so you can't use what they say as a measurement of what they're going to do.
As for the OP, I really want them to add dueling (plus group and guild dueling) with the option to auto-deny all duel requests.
As for Arenas, it would HAVE to be something like Oblivion, and not some silly e-sport leaderboard epeen WoW crap.
This would include PvE things as well, not just 2v2, 3v3 etc. though those would happen, but waves of enemies, and of course, public gambling on fights with in-game gold.
Originally posted by Ehllfhire
They already stated in the may 1st interview there will be no duelling, arenas, or battlegrounds, as all would kill off cyrodil pvp.
Though to be honest, they "could" add dueling and perhaps some sort of small arena and it wouldn't kill off pvp.
Lineage 2 had dueling and "Hero Arena" and that didn't kill off pvp.
It's just depends on "how" one does it.
Nope. Arena's will detract from the Cyrodil compaigns. If it were to be added, it should not offer much experience, in comparison to PvE. It can be an alternative, but progression will be stunted significantly. Plus, the rewards should be minimal. If it is more rewarding to take part in arena PvP, then Cyrodil will become a ghost town, and the population imbalances will be even worse than they are now.
Dueling on the other hand, I'm perfectly fine with. I really don't see why dueling wasn't included at launch.
Originally posted by BetaBlocka
The ability to duel fellow players sounds like ALL mmorpgs to me...except this one.
claiming tbe game is unique because it misses so many basic features is a poor arguement indeed. The lack of such basic features does not make the game unique, it makes it rushed and poorly implemented.
Simply not offering features that other games have in order to call yourself unique is just plain lazy. Instead why not offer something different, some in fact truly unique, to replace it. For crying out loud, at least try.
Originally posted by BetaBlocka
The ability to duel fellow players sounds like ALL mmorpgs to me...except this one.
claiming tbe game is unique because it misses so many basic features is a poor arguement indeed. The lack of such basic features does not make the game unique, it makes it rushed and poorly implemented.
Not allowing dueling is almost certainly a design choice and not a result of being rushed. not saying things werent rushed, but its (most likely) not the reason for no dueling.
Originally posted by ChicagoCub
Originally posted by BetaBlocka
The ability to duel fellow players sounds like ALL mmorpgs to me...except this one.
claiming tbe game is unique because it misses so many basic features is a poor arguement indeed. The lack of such basic features does not make the game unique, it makes it rushed and poorly implemented.
Simply not offering features that other games have in order to call yourself unique is just plain lazy. Instead why not offer something different, some in fact truly unique, to replace it. For crying out loud, at least try.
The problem with both of your arguments is, they're not any better than the argument the person you're arguing with made.
Both arguments are peas from the same pod, they're just polar opposites of each other, like opposing siblings. His argument attempts to make the product look good, yours attempts to make it look bad.
A: how can a feature not planned equate a product to rushed or poorly implemented? It's a misnomer
B: how does a "missing" feature add uniqueness? It's just a feature that's not present for whatever reason. Again a misnomer.
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Originally posted by Beastn
I wish they would add bgs...sometimes I just feel like pvping in a quick, fast, action packed type of style...think bf4...they have team death match, which are just bite sized, quick versions of their conquest mode
Some type of battleground/warzone would be nice. It's the kind of fluff that keeps players playing. Especially, players with limited playtime. It's just nice to login and knock out a 10 min bg or two.
Dueling....don't really care one way or another.
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Originally posted by Timzilla
I wouldn't mind them adding dueling as long as the ignore list is large enough to add all the duel kiddies to it.
"Auto-deny all duel requests" checkbox under gameplay settings.
Ever feel like your a racehorse in a race with other racehorses who are wearing blinders, except your not wearing a blinder...
TESO is currently a PC based MMORPG in a tough market with some very big titles being developed and released in the coming year (i.e. Wildstar, Archeage, Black Desert, Everquest Next, etc...); before any of you debate about the release date of the games I mentioned, realize they are going to be released in the coming year...which means beta testing for many people who would rather beta test a game in development for free then waste money, energy, and time on a pay to play MMORPG where many have become bored with as they have exhausted the fun factor to the game so there really is no point in paying for something you don't enjoy.
E3 is coming up in June. Get ready for the hype machine as it sure worked for this game as it will for the aforementioned games, as it will to bring many more new titles into the highly anticipated MMORPGs people will be drooling over list. Rest assured this summer season isn't going to be wasted sitting behind a computer screen playing a game that isn't releasing new content in a timely manner as well as not addressing player concerns and issues ingame as well.
The Elder Scrolls Online is destined for the console so it is imperative for Zenimax to get this show on the road and make this game a blockbuster MMORPG for the next generation consoles which will be over a year old and ripe/ready for a successful FREE2PLAY MMORPG! Make people pay for content updates and have a cash shop and all is good!
On the console players are going to want to explore the world of TESO much as they did in Skyrim except this is Multiplayer and Massively Multiplayer in certain aspects so therefore it will satisfy many different types of players. Many consoles players simply do not bother to own a PC as it is enough for them to have a smartphone and their entertainment/gaming console. This is where everything is going so ya'll may want to really consider whats happening vs what you want to happen, moreso. On a console many players want to jump in and immediately experience something that brings them instant gratification and this is player vs player. Makes alot of sense considering how successful Oblivion and Skyrim were on the console and now we have a multiplayer/massively multiplayer game called The Elder Scrolls Online and how many talked their character up to their friends as they compared their class/templates as they often wondered how they would fare against other players.
This brings into play the two things I mentioned as the OP of this thread; DUELING AND ARENAS! This is what Zenimax must bring to this game before they launch it on the console. Does it matter if its going to affect Cryodiil PvP landscape or not? NO! Why do you ask? Because Cryodiil is a persistent zone on a megaserver. Whereas DUELING isn't and ARENAS can be megaserver applicable so as to foster and improve competition.
You see it doesn't matter if some players choose to participate in Cryodiil or not. What matters is if they buy the game. It doesn't matter if some players won't to pay for certain content updates, as much as it matters that people are playing the game and enjoying it...which is a huge plus in matters of selling the game, which adds numbers, sponsers, news, etc....which brings more revenue and interest in the game and that is the bottomline folks. Its all about bringing people to your product. Look at Facebook!
Zenimax needs to add minigames to the game as TESO is an evolution of the Elder Scrolls and this time its multiplayer/massively multiplayer. Look at how many copies of Skyrim sold. Imagine the possibilities. Zenimax has to really bring home the bacon, so to speak when it comes to this product as it can sink or swim in a relatively short period...within a year folks! Console is the no brainer here...as there is no way this game is going to compete with the aforementioned titles once they hit the PC market and its happening very soon and you can take that to the bank!
Arenas? Absolutely not.
If they need small scale PvP it should be a noninstanced smaller RvR zone like the DAoC Battlegrounds, not some bullshit E-sports thing that a bunch of non MMOs do way better anyway. Waste of time.
Every game with pvp needs dueling, plain and simple. it allows you to test pvp a bit and challenge people as individuals. Arena's wouldn't hurt world pvp either as it's very small scale.
What kills world pvp is bad design, bad rewards and battlegrounds.
Originally posted by Timzilla
Arenas/scenario play helped kill Warhammers world pvp. There can be only one pvp place if you want pvp to suceed.
This really. WAR is an excellent example of don'ts when it comes to RvR. Not saying that it was bad (still only DAoC had it better) but then it could be so much more.
Originally posted by Vrika
But if they added dueling or arenas then they'd have to balance the game next. ESO can get away with a lot of balance issues with skills and characters by allowing PvP only in environment that's even more unbalanced.
LOL, so very true....
Sort of makes ya wonder wtf the developers were doing during the so called testing phases; especially considering Cryodiil is such a massive alliance vs alliance zone. Its basically one huge battleground. Before they include anything like battlegrounds in the future they have to balance out all the possibly class/template options so more of them are not only viable then simply a few to several choices...from the way it sounds right now there are not many effective PvP templates
Best way to balance class/template designs, is to allow players to constantly compete against each other through DUELING and ARENAS. DUELING has been a part of pretty much every notable MMORPG since they have been around.
ARENAS are not game breaking designs and Warhammer had battleground scenerios, not arenas. I played the game early on and they were quite fun and entertaining as long as your group was fairly organized and effective. Whilst Warhammer didn't win over the PC MMORPG market it could have had more success as a multiplayer console game consisting of primarily battleground scenerios including NPCs and MOBs.
ARENAS are where you pit similar team sizes against each other so players can thoroughly test out and optimize effective groups for PvP. WoW did a good job with arenas as they were quite popular and while many only participated only in arenas I do not see this as an issue, especially considering TESO is headed to console.
Zenimax has over half a year before The Elder Scrolls Online is released for Next Generation Consoles. Plenty of time to at least implement DUELING so players can help developers balance out many of the core issues with Ava as it begins and ends with player vs player.


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FLORHAM PARK, N.J. – When Geno Smith won the New York Jets quarterback battle by default on Wednesday, the announcement all but signaled what everyone pretty much knew: The Jets have conceded the season and are in rebuilding mode.
It also likely ends incumbent Mark Sanchez's four years as the Jets starter. Sanchez has told people around him that he fears the Jets will put him on injured reserve and, in essence, end his Jets career -- while the team moves on with Smith.
"I'm ready. I don't think I've been rushed. I don't think they'd put me out there if they didn't think I wasn't ready," Smith said. "I've been preparing my butt off, and that is something that will continue to improve. My preparation will never change. I will go out there with the intent to have a great game."
SANCHEZ'S FEAR: Jets will put him on IR
For those wondering what Smith faces, the first half of the season looks like this: After the Tampa Bay Bucs on Sunday, the Jets play at New England in a short week, then host the Buffalo Bills, play at the Tenneseee Titans, at the Atlanta Falcons, host the Pittsburgh Steelers and Patriots, then travel to Cincinnati to face the Bengals.
TOMLINSON: Sanchez's days as starter are over
There aren't many gimmes there for a rookie quarterback.
The Jets' second-round pick in this past spring's draft, Smith has had a rocky preseason, with an ankle injury in the first game, a practice coach Rex Ryan called "brutal," and three interceptions and a safety in a preseason game against the New York Giants.
But with Sanchez still not practicing or throwing because of an injury to his right shoulder, the Jets made the obvious call to start Smith. In doing so, they probably are waving a white flag on the season and grooming their quarterback of the future.
The announcement was made on the Jets team website, a rare switch for an organization that has battled leaks over the past few years. Smith said he was told he was the starter during the morning meeting with quarterbacks coach David Lee.
Ryan is asking his team to rally around a young quarterback who might be playing only because Ryan inserted Sanchez into a meaningless preseason game and the quarterback was injured.
"We realize that as a team, a rookie quarterback and all that is certainly a challenge -- the fact that we're playing (former Jets cornerback) Darrelle Revis and those two stud safeties and all that," Ryan said. "It will be challenging.
"I think our guys are ready to rally behind Geno. The big thing that we told Geno is to be part of the solution. I've always said it: Quarterbacks just go out and play the position. Be part of the solution. Don't think you have to carry this team on your back. That's not the case."
PHOTOS: Jets QB battle
Meanwhile, the Jets insist there's no guarantee Smith will keep the job, although it's unlikely Sanchez, a lame-duck with the organization, would get his job back.
"Our focus is strictly on this game," Ryan said. "So whether week-to-week, I don't know, what the heck, we're not thinking past Tampa. This whole team is not thinking past Tampa in anything."
For the Jets' veteran players, it could be a frustrating to have a rookie under center. Kellen Winslow was a free agent signed during minicamp, and he came to a team when Sanchez apeared the likely starter. Now, Winslow will have a rookie throwing him the ball.
"I don't care who is in there. You've got your job to do. It's hard to worry about another man's job when you've got your job to do," Winslow said. "All we can do is be there for him and up our game a little bit for him so he feels comfortable."
In the Jets' third preseason game, Smith was unsettled and harried in the pocket. He threw from his toes, forced passes and had difficulty reading coverages.
First year general manager John Idzik, who inherited Sanchez from the previous regime, said giving the job to Smith is not throwing the season away.
"I don't use the term rebuilding, I use the term building," he said. "In the National Football League, you're always building. Rebuilding, to me, gives the connotation that you're ripping something apart and you're a ground-up type deal.
"We don't look at it that way. We look at it that we're going to be competitive in everything we do. How we play, how we practice, how we prepare, how we go about building each position. So it's a building process, not a rebuilding process."
Idzik was asked if Sanchez has a shot at reclaiming the job. He tried to sound believable with his response.
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thats why it is odd... its called a parasite type but it doesn't appear to be part of her.
thats why it is odd... its called a parasite type but it doesn't appear to be part of her.
she also said monster and not weapon. i'm considering this the third type !
parasite doesn't have to mean inside the exorcist, its the same with Cross he controls that chock that was the parasite in her, just like the monkey thingy.
Well the ability to control a creature of innocence or a being with a parasite innocence has only been stated as magic... Cross has his own innocence weapon and he controls a womens corpse who has her own innocence. Basically you could call her a dead exorcist that Cross manipulates with "magic". So the odd thing is does Klaus 9 have a separate innocence ability that allows her to do this with Lao Jimin, which would make Lao Jimin an exorcist being as well.... OR is Lao Jimin alone her innocence power which would make it a new type of innocence.
idk hard for me to put into words... =P
Right, that's the question, is the monkey parasite type or is it her parasite-AAW? ...I'd laugh if she turns out to be a sorceress...too much alike Cross ^^;
I guess we just wait and see... my posts on this matter are getting redundant =P I just hope they address it rather than leave us in the dark.
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Nolan Ryan vs. Billy Martin: A look at their '77 ASG feudJuly 14th, 2009, 6:30 am by Earl Bloom, staff writer
Think Chone Figgins and Jered Weaver got ripped off? Imagine having these pitching stats going into an All-Star break:
A 13-8 record (for a 42-46 team); a 2.64 ERA; four shutouts; 222 strikeouts in 190.2 IP; 16 complete games.
That line wasn't good enough for Hall of Fame right-hander Nolan Ryan of the Angels to initially be selected for the 1977 AL All-Star squad, which was the home team in the refurbished Yankee Stadium.
The Angels' lone representative was to be Ryan's rotation mate Frank Tanana (12-6, 2.15 ERA). But an injury kept him out of the game, so AL manager Billy Martin of the Yankees nominated Ryan -- who had made other plans after the initial snub, and wouldn't break them.
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This HGTV star from one of their more popular shows insists he is straight
. Well, actually what he always says is that he dates lots of women but can't ever find the right one. Just come out already.
Do not watch HGTV.ReplyCancel
HGTV? I will call my mom for this one….ReplyCancel
Ok seriously HGTV BI?!!? Uhm slow gossip day?!?!
Not the twins!ReplyCancel
The Property Bros are Canadian lmao—they seem so douche. TWINNING!ReplyCancel
I googled and saw some guy who pinged my gaydar on a show called Dream house so I will go with himReplyCancel
I think it stands for Home and Garden TV? Maybe? My mom watches it I think. House hunting and shit like that.ReplyCancel
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Definitely one of The Property Brothers. Which ever one who always wears the suit and doesn't do the manual labor. 🙂 Both are hot and should have no problem finding a date. In fact I will take one for the team and go out with both of them. 😉ReplyCancel
Really, you guys never watch HGTV? House Hunters, Love It or List It, Property Brothers, Yard Crashers … I could go on, but won't. I always get a super bad case of real estate envy after watching anything they show. That being said, I think this is Jonathan Scott, the more manly twin who does renovations on Property Brothers.ReplyCancel
HGTV is very important. Along with Degrassi it's where I learned everything about Canada. Since it says more popular shows I'll go with either the single Property Brother or Scott McGillivray or the guy from Love It or List It (although to that may just be popular in my living room).ReplyCancel
After looking at some hosts, I'm going with Scott McGillivray of Income Property.ReplyCancel
You guys get those Canadian house shows? lol…I don't mind love it or list it but it is soooo contrivedReplyCancel
Ah the link that will remain blueReplyCancel
No FSP! The last time you had me look at a waffle I couldn't breath without my inhaler for an hour….
Nicely played. Noire should post an hourly rate and 800 number.ReplyCancel
Scott M. is married and has been for a while, as is David from Love It or List It, and both have kids. I vote for Jonathan Scott.ReplyCancel
I watch HGTV but when do they talk about their private lives? Never. I'll throw Vern Yip into the mix. Oh wait, that bearded guy that renovates places with a mix of old cast of finds and his eclectic handmade woodwork and painting.
He's a good looking bear with a beard. ROAR!ReplyCancel
@Unknown- LOL there goes my gaydar.ReplyCancel
FSP yer making me hungry. Now google image mucoid plaque.ReplyCancel
People will come out when they are ready.ReplyCancel
Yep, some are total BS. But I really like the ones where it looks like they do actual work: income property, Candace Olson, Genevieve, kitchen cousins. House hunters is total BS, but I still watch.ReplyCancel
Vern is gay and partnered, and they have adopted a couple of kids. I probably watch too much HGTV – don't judge me, ??.ReplyCancel
Liberace used to say the same thing.ReplyCancel
I wish my brother George were here?ReplyCancel
Based on what you guys are saying it does seem like Jonathan Scott. What about the Love it or List It Too? They film in Vancouver and a former Bachelor contestant is the female designer. Maybe that guy but probably Jonathan Scott.
BTW-Scott McGillivray is a national treasure.ReplyCancel
I would want to say Scott McGillivray too because his cute level is off the charts. I think he tweets a lot about the wife and kids though so that doesn't fit the blind.
What about Mike Holmes? He's always seemed gay to me. Not that there's anything wrong with that…ReplyCancel
But at least it's a nice walk-in…ReplyCancel
Vern! Trading Spaces was my jam! I love Vern sense of space and whimsy. He was the only one that used architectural aspects and perspectives in his designs
Where can I find him now?
Might be able to "get it" if you guys tell me…*begging*
Love all the HGTV shows, but alas, I am old and spend a lot of time renovating old properties. Scott MacGillivery lives in my hometown and is married with at least one kid. My friend met them on vacation in Cuba. He looks like Tom Cruise but that's where the gayness ends. I would say one of the property brothers but seeing as they are identical wouldn't they be like D squared, the designer brothers, who are both gay? (ducking)ReplyCancel
I can't believe this!! A blind about an HGTV star. Talk about hitting bottom. Blinds have been ridiculous here lately but this is as stupid as enty can get and still have a blog. I'm laughing so hard right now. Work harder enty before you lose what's left of your readers.ReplyCancel
LOVES me some Property Brothers–but why in the heck is stuff SO expensive in Canada–that is filmed in the Toronto area right? Your property costs are like CRAZY Some of those slums I would not give 200K for non the less 800K with all the work they needReplyCancel
Jonathan Scott, for sure.ReplyCancel
I know who you're talking about! My yard needs landscaping, but I would never be so lucky as to bump into him in Home Depot… I can't get over the ones who turn down his assistance! I'm like, "IDIOT!" Yard work be expensive.ReplyCancel
Scott McGillrey is married into a HUGE Italian family.ReplyCancel
The real estate shows are real in that it is real people buying properties, but the properties have already been bought by the time they film. I am a real estate agent in Ontario where many of them are filmed. The production companies regularly put out calls to agents with clients that have recently bought or are about to. The properties they show are all compels to the property they bought. So they show the process basically. I have met Bryan Baumler and been in his house…the one that was showcased on Bryans house. That house is perfection. A lot of releases need to be signed by the listing brokerages and vendors in order to get in the houses so they have to do it backwards.ReplyCancel
Gee. .new phone. The houses shown are comps to the property they bought.ReplyCancel
Friends here in Toronto filmed love it or list it- they shoot both endings and use whichever one the editing department decides on.ReplyCancel
Me too, Julianne … I think they're adorable! Handsome, nice & talented! Love that show 🙂ReplyCancel
I'm impressed with how much knowledge you all have of HGTV!!ReplyCancel
I always think those guys seem too pretty for the work they're supposed to be doing.ReplyCancel
David Bromstead of courseReplyCancel
Love the Property Brothers so Enty thanks for the HGTV blind! Going with Jonathon Scott for this one but I would still do him if I'm wrong.ReplyCancel
A friend of ours told me they film 2 endings for Love it or List it too, because too many of the families decide to "Love it", so they have to make the occasional one list it. Her neighbours were on the show.
And yeah, the yard crasher guy can follow me home from Home Depot anytime. I only ever get little old retired guys who are working there for pocket money and you have to repeat everything twice to, or students who don't give a shit. Pardon my French.
I like the HGTV show where they choose one out of three houses to buy, especially the international version but I can't think of the name.ReplyCancel
I think it's one of the kitchen cousins.
Bromstad makes no effort to hide that he's gay.
I always thought Mike Holmes was gay but he's not. He has his daughter on (not that that means anything).
My favorite though is Sarah Richardson, HGTV's answer to Ina Garten on Food Network. She could give some of the "divas" we read about on this site lessons on how to own being an entitled bitch. She and Tommy are amazing. They walk right up to camp and then step back.
I like Genevieve too. I absolutely hate "Love it or List It".
There's nothing like a House Hunters marathon on a rainy day.
I'll stop now.ReplyCancel
We just bought a house, and got cable for the first time, and now I am watching way too much HGTV. I love the renovation shows, because I have no imagination for things like that but I wish I did. Anyway, while I am surprised to hear that David of Love it or List it is married with children, since I figured they were both gay (they do that promo spot in which they say people actually think they are married to each other, and that would "never work, never!"), I guess I haven't wondered it about most of the people because I don't care…. But I would like to clarify that not being able to find the right person does not automatically mean gay. It could also mean picky or difficult or damaged or unlucky or busy or cautious or uncompromising or choosy or…anything, really. Anything.
So, best wishes to whoever it is and I hope he eventually finds someone to share his path (unless he prefers to be alone).
Jonathan totally pings my gaydar. He's the contractor brother on Property Brothers.ReplyCancel
Scott and his wife have a baby. Doesn't fit this blind at all.ReplyCancel
Oh, I forgot about Sarah. She and Tommy are GREAT. Funny, smart and great designers. They sound so unscripted.ReplyCancel
He is supposed to be living with Genevieve Gorder.ReplyCancel


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Craving a few days of crowded sidewalks, street noise, and tall buildings, we drove northwest to Montreal for the long weekend.
Though I grew up in a tourist town that caters to the Quebecois, my French is extremely limited. I can count to ten, say please and thank you, and tell a waiter or shopkeeper to shut his mouth. Thankfully, everyone we encountered this weekend spoke flawless English and tolerated my butchered street names. The rules of French pronunciation are a mystery to me. All those eaux, oit, and ois: I never know whether to pronounce the consonants or make a gagging sound in the back of my throat. In Maine, Desroches can be day-roe-shay or duh-roshe-ers. The French call Calais kal-ay, but our eastern Maine town is cal-lus.
Before heading north I consulted Vegan Montreal and marked several restaurants on our map. The city is refreshingly vegan-friendly, especially in neighborhoods near the colleges. Lebanese take-out counters offer hummus and falafel, and most restaurants advertise vegetarian choices in their windows. Throughout the weekend we made several stops at java u, a coffee chain with a nightclub atmosphere that carries pre-made sandwiches (the dr. jones, a basic hummus wrap, is vegan) and soy milk for lattes.
Our first night in town, we ate at the all-vegan Aux Vivres (awks veev-rays) in the young, vibrant Plateau Mont-Royal district.
The cheery plant-filled dining room was packed on a Saturday night. The menu emphasizes salads, Asian noodle dishes, sandwiches, and smoothies. The special was a veggie sausage ratatouille, but since it was warm I ordered summer food: a tofu burger, roasted potatoes, and coleslaw. Rod ordered a tempeh burger with the same sides.
Maybe my expectations, based on online reviews, were too high, or maybe my tastes are too particular, but I wasn't thrilled with dinner. Our nearly flavorless playing card-sized slices of tofu and tempeh were dwarfed by enormous chapati buns. The bread was nutty and delicious, but I could have used a lot less bun and a little more burger. Fortunately the crispy roasted potatoes with funky chipotle ketchup and creamy, lemony coleslaw hit the spot.
Aux Vivres also serves fresh juices and thick fruit, soy, and coconut milk smoothies. I tried a balanced and refreshing apple, lemon, and ginger juice, ideal for cutting through the fog of spring allergies.
For dessert, we split an enormous slice of carrot cake. The ginger and nutmeg flavors were nice, but the cake was too dense, and the lemon frosting was overly tart. We left half the slice on the plate. A decade ago, vegans might have resigned themselves to baked goods like bricks, but in 2009, there's no excuse for subpar vegan cake. Get yourself a copy of Vegan Cupcakes Take Over the Worldand some baking soda and head back to the drawing board.
I wanted to try other dishes at Aux Vivres, but we didn't make it back (they're closed on Mondays). Four chickpeas for vegan-friendliness, but the food, based on my limited sampling, needs jazzing up.
We went twice to ChuChai, a vegetarian Thai restaurant that's almost vegan, except for some egg noodles and a few desserts. Chuch, next door, offers the same menu, but it's more casual and has a deli-style take-out counter.
ChuChai features about a dozen basic entrees, each available with seitan shrimp, fish, duck, chicken, or beef, as well as fried tofu. I chose good ol' bean curd, but Rod's veggie chicken tasted frighteningly real.
Lunching at a sidewalk table, I ordered a fresh spring roll which came with both sweet and sour and peanut sauce. Fortunate, as I can never decide between them.
Fresh rolls (rice paper wrapped around julienned carrots and cabbage, marinated tofu, rice noodles, lettuce, and mint) have quickly become my favorite food on the planet. Simultaneously sticky, soft, crunchy, and light, ChuChai's fresh roll was as good as any I've had. I could have eaten eight of them.
Rod's hot and sour lemongrass soup, with cabbage, tomatoes, and carrot, was quite sour, with a just the right amount of chili heat. His spicy eggplant with basil came in a savory, smoky brown sauce that highlighted the sweet basil but wasn't spicy.
The tofu pad thai was too salty for my taste, with lemon and carrot overwhelming any chili, lime, or peanut.
On our evening visit, I tried tofu with basil, coconut milk, and chili. Containing all of my favorite ingredients, it was delicious, though a little more chili would enhance rich and tangy flavors in the sauce.
If I lived in Montreal, the only thing that might keep me from visiting ChuChai weekly are the prices. Entrees run $12-15, without rice. The take-out counter is cheaper, at two items for $7.99, three for $10.99. Unless you want to people watch on the sidewalk patio, this may be a better option, since service was slow and erratic during both our visits.
If you're in Montreal and looking for a nice dinner or some noodles to-go, ChuChai is worth a visit. Choices for vegans are abundant and interesting, earning it four chickpeas.
Now that we're back home, it's time to sort through the photos and catch up on laundry.
Au revoir for now, mon ami!


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Adamar South at Pop N' Art celebrates the work of Gretchen Minnhaar. Through March 6. 6-9 p.m. at the Village of Merrick Park, 358 San Lorenzo Ave., Suite 3210, Coral Gables. Details: (305) 448-5578 or www.popnart.com.
Miami Dade College features Return to Afghanistan, a series of Aperture photographs from Afghanistan. Through March 13. Various times at Wolfson Campus Centre Gallery, Room 1365, 300 NE Second Ave., Miami. Free. Details: (305) 237-3696.
Florida International University presents Ruben Torres Llorca's Modelo Para Armar/Easy to Build, a multimedia work that pieces together fragments of personal and universal events to create a storyline. Through March 19. Patricia and Phillip Frost Art Museum, University Park Campus, SW 107th Ave. and 8th St., Tamiami. Free. Details: Nicole Kaufman, (305) 348-2890.
Miami Art Museum presents Rendez-vous, a two-screen art video by Italian artist Grazia Toderi, who shows the link between celestial and terrestrial space when Gemini spaceships rotate within the dome of a Baroque church. Through April 9. Details: (305) 375-1704.
Bass Museum of Art features !Azucar! The Life and Music of Celia Cruz. Through April 16. 2121 Park Ave., Miami Beach. Details: (305) 673-7530.
Art Talk features collective works from Malcolm Morley. Paintings of the New York artist, a former Floridian, showcase his career through 40 canvases. Through April 16. Museum of Contemporary Art, 770 NE 125th St., North Miami. $3-$5. Details: (305) 893-6211 or www.mocanomi.org.
Miami Art Museum presents art preview from Brazilian artist Vik Muniz, a compilation of photographs using non-art materials. Through May 28. 6-8 p.m. includes exhibition viewing, cocktails, hors d'oeuvres and live music. 101 W. Flagler St., Miami. Free for members. $10 others. Details: (305) 375-1704.


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American Old Fashioned Ice Cream Parlor
The 1846 shop features original cabinets & an old-fashioned fountain. Popcorn, candy, lunch, Coca-Cola merchandise, coffee bar. American Old Fashioned Ice Cream Parlor is the best ice cream in town!
Angela's Candies offers all types of candy from your favorites to fine chocolates, nuts and more. If you are looking for quick lunch, pick up a hotdog, polish sausage or try one of her sandwich selection of the week from hamburgers, BBQ or egg salad sandwiches just to name a few. Don't forget to add chips, popcorn and a soda ... Angela's Candies has been around for 27 years and has the best prices in town.
Everyone likes popcorn! Ann's Gourmet Popcorn is a unique experience. Choose from tons of Sweet to Savory flavors of delicious non-GMO gourmet popcorn in Southern Illinois. Individual bags to party options available. Pick up a gift package today!! Currently we are making 72+ flavors of gourmet popcorn. We are keeping around 28 on the shelves on a daily basis. Some flavors are seasonal only and others will be rotated.
Arndt's produces mouth-watering fudge in a variety of flavors. Stop by for a sample.
Bang Bang Pie Shop has been banging out delicious pies in Chicago for a short time, but the notoriety they have received is nothing short of delicious. Every day they offer a chocolate, cream and fruit pie option using only the freshest seasonal ingredients. But beware; if you're looking for a place that just bangs out everything for everyone, you might want to look elsewhere because these guys make their pies like Grandma used to. From made-from-scratch warm biscuits to homemade pies, either way you can't go wrong.
Black Dog Gelato creates gourmet gelato and sorbets combining the artisanal process with inventive and intriguing flavors. Gelato is made fresh daily in small batches and begins with the simplest ingredients: milk, cream, sugar, eggs, freshly toasted nuts, seasonal fruits, and quality chocolates. We are commited to the traditional method of gelato making and aspire to create new flavor combinations for the modern palate.
Stop by and sample black kernels of corn that pop to the whitest popcorn you've ever seen. Tours are available.
A delicious mixture of cocoa is found every which way along the Blackhawk Chocolate Trail in the four-county area of Northwest Illinois. Enjoy visiting candy stores, bed and breakfasts with special chocolate-themed packages, gift shops and old-fashioned soda fountains.
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CITY:Mount Prospect
Take a fun, educational guided walking and tasting tour of select chocolate shops along the Magnificent Mile or in the Loop. Learn about the history of chocolate and sample chocolate delights on this tasty tour
Indulge your decadence in the heart of historic downtown Galena. With well over 200 flavors of Swiss, German, French, Belgian, Venezuelan and domestic chocolates – Chocolate' is the destination all chocolate lovers must experience.
Chocolate Buffet at The Peninsula Hotel Chicago
The Lobby at The Peninsula Chicago offers its Chocolate Bar from 8 p.m.- midnight on Fridays and Saturdays, an all-you-can-eat chocolate buffet features between 10 and 15 high-end confections, including cinnamon truffles, chocolate-dipped strawberries and chocolate pot de crème, plus beverages like lavender-scented white chocolate cocoa and more.
The Chocolate Factory prides itself in offering quality gourmet chocolates in a wide variety of mouth watering flavor, formulated with only the finest ingredients. Our irresistible silky smooth blended chocolates make delicious rich candies for any occasion!
One-of-a-kind chocolate inspired restaurant. A fun and casual restaurant, lounge and boutique for foodies and chocolate lovers alike. Diners will find a variety of beautifully plated main courses, appetizers and desserts that incorporate the restaurant's namesake ingredient alongside delicious options where chocolate is optional - or non-existent. The venue will also offer artfully packaged craft chocolates and other treats made by independent chocolatiers and local chocolate makers.
Situated in one of downtown Carbondale's oldest buildings, Cristaudo's Cafe and Bakery is definitely worth a stop! Treat your taste buds to the sweet flavor of their famous sugar cookies, or enjoy a delicious sandwich during lunch. And, if you give them enough notice, Cristaudo's will prepare vegan and gluten-free baked goods to your liking!
Belly up to this old-time soda fountain that serves up ice cream treats. The marble-topped counter was moved here in the 1930s and is surrounded by 600 vintage soda bottles and photos of the town of Arthur's yesteryear.
Located on historic Route 66, this was originally a pharmacy built in the 1880's. The soda fountain was added to the business in the 1950's. Stop in for an old-fashioned treat or ice-cream. Doc's is also open for lunch and dinner.
Duke Bakery is a full line retail bakery specializing in wedding cakes, specialty cakes, donuts, pastries, pies, breads, buns, and cookies since 1951.
Chocolate is something that gets into you and never goes away once you are bitten. We love to find interesting fusions of flavors and use that to tell a multi-note story in chocolate. Sometimes the chocolate alone can be a whole world and sometimes we slip in other flavors that excite or compliment what naturally comes out in the chocolate.
Visit the Ferrara Pan Candy Company outlet store and see how many ways you can satisfy your candy cravings!
CITY:Forest Park
Artisan retail bake shop offering a variety of baked goods and wedding cakes. Open Monday-Friday from 7 a.m to 5 p.m. and Saturday, 7 a.m. to 3 p.m.
CITY:East Alton
Ghirardelli Chocolate Shop and Soda Fountain
A Ghirardelli® Ice Cream and Chocolate Shop is the perfect destination to experience decadent chocolate & irresistible World Famous Hot Fudge Sundaes topped with freshly homemade hot fudge. While at a Ghirardelli Ice Cream Shop, you can also indulge in unforgettable fountain treats including shakes, floats, malts and other delectable fountain creations.
Hailey's Winery, established in 2009, specializes in handcrafted wines from grape varieties native to Illinois, as well as other varietals, and seasonal fruits. Owned and operated by two women, Hailey's is a fully functioning winery, producing and bottling award-winning wines in Byron, Illinois location. We strive to offer a variety of wines and an enjoyable experience for each guest, and want our visitors to feel completely at ease with wine tasting and selection. The winery is open year round, with tastings available any time during business hours, monthly live music, and tasting room rental for private celebrations. We carry specialty cheeses, sausage, chocolates, craft beer selections, and gift items. Guests may gather, relax and enjoy our wines in the pleasant tasting room, or on our patio during warm weather.
This engaging retail experience features the full line of Hershey's products, as well as one-of-a-kind gifts and souvenirs Be entertained by the singing baker at the bake shoppe, offering cupcakes, cookies and brownies all topped with Hershey's products.
Heath candy was invented in the early 1900s in Robinson, and Hershey's produced the Heath bar and all of your favorites here.
Lagomarcino's has been creating fine chocolates in Moline since 1908. A family run business, you can't help but feel the love and dedication to all things sweet in their historic location. This authentic, turn-of-the-century ice cream parlor and confectionery is renowned for homemade chocolates and ice cream. Stop by and get a taste of history for yourself; your life will be a lot sweeter for it.
Since opening in 1963, Larry's has been hand making cakes, donuts, brownies, cookies and more daily. Larry's is a local bakery known for their birthday and occasion cakes as well as wedding and specialty cakes and cupcakes.
Lavender Crest Winery opened its doors for the first time in November of 2004, introducing customers to an opportunity for a unique way to taste wine that is produced in the Midwest. Lavender Crest Winery features a wine tasting room, gift shop, an espresso bar that serves lunch, entertainment, tours and more.
Your sweet tooth is sure to be on alert at Long Grove Confectionary Co. Watch homemade fudge getting made as thick layers of sweet goodness fold into large vats. Inhale the sugary goodness of the famed cocoa concoctions as soon as you walk inside. At Long Grove, the old fashioned confectionary is alive and well, and smelling oh so good.
CITY:Buffalo Grove
Long Grove Confectionery Nut and Candy Factory Store
The former Nut & Candy House is now the Long Grove Confectionery's Factory Store. Along with the store's original kinds of fresh roasted and raw nuts, chocolates, chocolate covered nuts, yogurt covered items, snack mixes and assorted candies, the store will also feature Long Grove Confectionery's famous hand-made chocolates. Bulk, bagged or gift packed items also available.
Morkes Chocolates provides high quality and diverse tastes at affordable prices. With a history of candy making going all the way back to 1920, we at Morkes Chocolates continue to make our chocolate confections from scratch, with all natural chocolate, pure butter, fresh roasted nuts, and a lot of fun.
Mr. Koolz Frozen Yogurt and More
Mr. Koolz has 12 flavors of yogurt (including no sugar added flavors), 70 toppings, Espresso Bar, Shakes and Pies, Candies and more. You can also have parties here in our newly constructed party room. Yogurt is .45 per ounce
Pease's Fine Candies & Salted Nuts
Pease's Candy is a locally owned, fifth generation candy shop. For over 75 years, Pease's has been making old fashioned, homemade candies and treats. The store offers boxed candies, salted nuts, popcorn, gourmet foods, special event candies, and seasonal sweets.
Recess Brewing is a Community Supported Brewery that is happy to call Edwardsville, Illinois home. The goal is simple. Provide delicious, locally crafted beer and educate the masses about how the magic happens. Our location on Main Street houses a 1500 square foot brewery and a 1100 square foot taproom which is open to everyone.
Featuring local and Illinois made gifts, foods, and specialties. Enjoy specialty coffees, muffins, desserts and other goodies in their historic building built in 1906 which boasts the original art deco soda fountain from the 30's.
Sweet Indulgence Bakery is the perfect spot to satisfy that sweet tooth! Treat yourself to their decadent cakes and savory chocolates.
Sweet Pete's Candy is the sweetest destination on Earth. We offer handmade chocolates and confections, ice cream, frozen yogurt, cupcakes and more. Join us for a party, class or field trip for a sweet candy-making experience you will be sure to love.
CITY:Lake Forest
The Chocolate Shoppe features handmade confections, including our world famous chocolate covered bacon! We also offer a variety of truffles, fudge, sea-salted caramels, barks and toffees, graham crackers, pretzels, chocolate-covered fruits and nuts, and five flavors of popcorn!
The Chocolatier is a local candy shop offering a wide range of products they create in store and a variety of your favorite bulk candies.
Tom and Sharon Smith and their son Todd have made a full line of chocolates since 1982. Besides creams, clusters, toffee and caramels, we also make hard to find pieces including divinity, chocolate dipped ginger, sponge candy (seasonally) and sugar free chocolate clusters (made with real chocolate). Our batches are small and much of the work is done the old fashioned way: by hand.
Tom and Sharon Smith and their son Todd have made a full line of chocolates since 1982. Besides creams, clusters, toffee and caramels, we also make hard to find pieces including divinity, chocolate dipped ginger, sponge candy (seasonally) and sugar free chocolate clusters (made with real chocolate). Our batches are small and much of the work is done the old fashioned way: by hand.
The Fudge Pot in Chicago provides delicious chocolate, daily. Their specialists' work around the clock making sure only the sweetest covered strawberries, apples and nuts are provided. Take your pick of famous toffees, award winning fudge and chocolate bars. You can always expect only the tastiest treats at The Fudge Pot.
If there's one thing the Neighborhood Co-op is known for, it's good food. Between the grocery store and the deli area, this one-stop-shop has everything you need for the perfect meal. Enjoy the fresh taste of locally grown produce, shop the work of Carbondale's thriving art scene, and feast on a hearty sandwich, made with all-organic products.
The Pie Pantry offers a great selection of soups, salads, and burgers, and of course delicious pies, by the slice or as a whole.
At Vosges Haut-Chocolat®, they harness the power of storytelling to open minds, spirits and palates through the medium of esteemed chocolate, inspiring us all to interact with the world in a new and creative way.
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What best characterises Riccardo Tisci, the Creative Director at Givenchy, is his pre-destination to serve women's beauty. In 1974 he was born into a family where there were already eight daughters. At the age of 17, Tisci left his country to begin studying design at the Saint Martin School of Arts in London. After graduating with honors , he returned to Italy and worked for almost five years in the shadows of brands such as Antonio Berardi, Coccapani, Puma and Ruffo Research. This varied and enriching experience shaped his future.
In September 2004 Tisci presented his first collection under his own name. Orchestrated like a "happening" rather than a traditional show, the presentation created a feeling of new elegance as well as innovative savoir-faire. This choice of functional, modern chic now seems to be the guideline for his pertinent interpretation of the Givenchy spirit - the French couture house to which the Italian has dedicated himself completely.
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They got robbed! LOL! Better think of a back up plan quick. Good chapter though.
Manga reading list: Bleach, Naruto, Katekyo Hitman Reborn, One Piece, Code Breaker, Gamaran, Kuroko No Basket, Fairy Tail, The World God Only Knows, Kimi No Iru Machi, Good Ending, Medaka Box, Nisekoi, D.Gray-Man, Ao No Exorcist, Freezing, Magi - Labyrinth of Magic, Soul Eater, Rosario Vampire Season II, Iris Zero, Ubell Blatt, Bloody Cross, Sun-Ken Rock, and Infinite Stratos,
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I almost forgot Bleach was coming because Naruto was on break.
- A decent chapter
- Didnt need the over sized panels with Bankai's in them but whatever.
- I already knew these guys absorbed Bankai's
- Destroying that device will probably return them
- This is a perfect battle for Kenpachi !!!!!
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What chakra type are you?
Better be prepared for a mayor ownage... and seeing the Quincy girl with a dog ears .
Nice...shits bout to go down but this really does seem like an excuse for kubo to continue hiding the other captains bankais from us. N it would also suck if we first discover one of the captains bankai's through one of the quincys. N really cant wait for kenpachi to appear this fight was made for him.
And as a side note they way things r progressing now i can't see bleach having more than a year's worth of chapters left frankly, and thats kinda sad...
Ok, I think I had enough of Quincy OPness...when are the shinigamis going to actually retaliate? I don't see how this story is going to escalate. If the enemy is already this powerful, how the hell is anyone going to defeat the ultimate boss? They better not screw this up, these quincies being defeated like the guys in fullbringer arc is plain lame...here's to hoping...
seal and stolen the bankai. if they seal their bankai, maybe they can get a method to release their bankai again and then fight to those people again. while now their bankai is stolen by them, and they should beat them then they can get their power again, that is more hard to defeat them in bleach. And as a person, regard the bankai as our money, your money in your hand or the money in your enemy's hand, that is a quite unhappy feeling...


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Numbers Up Again for Canadian Open Championships
Volleyball Canada is pleased to confirm record-setting participation numbers for the 2014 Canadian Open Championships.
This year, 824 teams are registered, compared with the previous high 772 set in 2013.
"I'm very proud of the hard work by the host organizing committees to create more capacity in their respective Canadian Open Championships in order to allow more teams to participate this year," said Chrissy Benz, Volleyball Canada's Domestic Competitions Director.
With an increase of 52 additional teams participating, more than 750 athletes and coaches will benefit from the experience of participating in these national and interprovincial competitions.
"Volleyball at all levels is gaining in popularity and we are excited to help keep up with the demand for high-quality competitive experiences," said Benz.
Overall, 2013 and 2014 have shown the largest growth in participation since going to the open concept for the nationals. Girls' teams still outnumber the boys, but large gains have been made on the male side in the 18U category, which is up by eight teams over last year.
This is truly a national event, with venues in Abbotsford, BC, Regina, Sask., Calgary and Edmonton, Alta., and Sherbrooke, Que. More information on each tournament can be found on Volleyball Canada's web site http://www.volleyball.ca/node/3176
Not only does the competition promise to be exciting for the participants, the events are expected to draw more than 15,000 spectators! Event passes are available online at a discounted rate for the 14U Canadian West Open (Abbotsford), 15U Canadian West Open (Regina), and 16U Canadian West Open (Calgary), and 17U/18U Canadian Open (Edmonton) until April 11, 2014.
Next year, all teams will travel to one location, Calgary, for the largest volleyball event in ever held in that city. For more information about Calgary 2015, please visit: http://www.volleyball.ca/content/calgary-2015.


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In the second week of the high school football, Globe photographer snapped photos at BC High where the Eagles hosted North Attleboro in a nonleague matchup. North Attleboro ended up winning the contest, 27-7, dropping the defending Divsion 1 champions to 0-2. Mike Lambert, No. 32, broke a tackle en route to a first down in the first half. Next
BC High quarterback Dan Collins, No. 15, was tripped up by North Attleboro's Sean Peters, No.73, and Mike Lambert. Next
North Attleboro's Ryan Perron, No. 11, ran in the Red Rocketeers' first touchdown in the first half. Next
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Skip to comments.Are you ready for Obamacare's 'Mandate Plus?' (Have you heard of the "late enrollment fee"? )
Posted on 01/14/2013 7:59:10 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Not a bug - a feature.
The individual mandate penalties will be pretty weak as they are phased in over two years - only $95 when they start in 2014, much less than it costs to buy insurance. And yet, everyone with pre-existing conditions will have to be accepted for coverage right away.
That's why insurance companies are telling the administration the mandate won't be enough for the first two years. They want more incentives - such as a late enrollment fee - to get healthy people to sign up quickly. Without getting the healthy folks in, the fear is that everyone's health insurance premiums could shoot through the roof when all those sick people get their coverage.
The idea is being called "mandate plus" - because some of the ideas were floated by health experts last year as replacements, in case the Supreme Court struck the mandate down. Now that the mandate is here to stay, insurance companies and some policy experts say the other ideas should go hand in hand with the coverage requirement to make the whole system work - and be affordable.
The states could impose some of these incentives, too, and they could become a future lobbying battleground. But right now, the insurers are focused on persuading the Department of Health and Human Services to add them on its own.
What do you suppose is going to happen when Medicaid expansion dumps 15 million new patients on to the health care system? Millions will be clamoring for their "free" health care. Meanwhile, healthy "young invincibles" will opt out and choose to pay the fine rather than thousands of dollars in health insurance costs.
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
Covering a per-existing condition is not insurance. It is akin to selling fire insurance after the hose has already caught fire.
I can see why they need these but does the passed bill allow additional fines, really a increase in the fine by HSS without a change in law?
Silly insurance companies. They just don't get it.
It's just about time for them to go away now.
Lots of luck obamugabe ~ ain't gonna' happen.
Just like to note that when you put your medical care program under the administration of Congress you encounter institutional delay of a Constitutional sort ~ and your life will be put in the balance as they endlessly debate everything they can.
Much better to be in charge of your own medical care.
The purpose of Obamacare is not to get everyone on insurance, but rather to make private medical insurance completely inviable as a business thus "requiring" the government step in as the sole source for medical payments.
It's about control, not medical care.
THEY are wrong.
Mandate plus- is that the same as being anally raped with a gratuitous reach around?
The ObamaCare train wreck continues...........
With the Supreme Court having ruled that the various fees, fines and other nonsense in ObamaKKKare are TAXES, any changes will need to go to the House and Senate for action.
I'm positive that "somewhere" there is a federal judge who is willing to rule that Obamacare has an open ended mandate on Taxes and that the "Secretary" can raise them whenever she pleases.
(I'm really not sure about putting a sarcasm tag on this, so I won't.)
then : we have to pass it before we find out what's in it.
now : we have to enact it before we find out what's in it.
soon : we will have to pay for it before we find out what's in it.
Nah, that notion is from the olden days. We have Dear Leader now. He can just snap his fingers and it will be done.
Is there any way I can opt out of this Obamakare Medicare nightmare? If it's going to finance abortion, I don't want it.
I know I can't stop them from taking what they want to out of my check; but I don't want to participate in their Let's Play Doctor game. I'll pay cash for my own once a year visit to the Nurse Practitioner.
Yeah, once you pay for it, you will find you will be denied what was never in it for you! LOL
In that light it is significant that even the Leftwingtard fanatics on the USSC didn't make any attempt at all to carve out a ruling that ObamaKKKare was a user fee.
So, all those fees and fines are just taxes and need to go back to Congress for any changes. I can even envision a future USSC not well disposed toward the ObamaKKKare bureaucracy ruling that even the individual fees paid to insurance companies are, in fact, taxes!
You could end up quickly with no insurance companies, and no government involvement in medical care, and no medical establishment to which individuals could turn for help.
The possibility for total destruction of medical care in the United States has been built into ObamaKKKare
The only way you can eliminate abortion in America at this time is to eliminate abortionists and their supporters. That's where we stand at this moment. Things may change. In the meantime obamugabe thinks you have a moral responsibility to pay for it or he will kill you.
** only $95 when they start in 2014, much less than it costs to buy insurance.**
I know of a medical insurance that only costs $99 a month. Don't believe this Obamacare nonsense.
If you want to know what it is, you will have to FReepmail me.
Basic coverage only, not vision and dental.
With vision and dental — it is only $138 a month.
That is what I was getting at.
It didnt take a rocket scientist to figure out that the low 'fines' with the mandates would put insurance companies out of business as the sick and old ( say 55 to 65) stay in the pool while the others flee until they get sick.
Then some Rs will be tempted to raise the fines to keep the companies in business, versus they all go to medicaid after the companies leave the business/
There's a new balance on the equation ~ and this time there's no Mr. Nice Guy. The leftists must give up their beliefs or leave the country.
??? I think winning the elected just embolded them.
Example : O says he will not negotiate on debt limit, that House Rs will give him that 'for free'. He seems confident that he is in charge.
The Dems seem convinced that Rs will not win another National election for a decade.
They dont seem to be packing to go anywhere.
What do you call a pre existing condition on the scenario below which is very real:
An individual goes to work full time at age 22 after completing 4 years of college. He works for three different companies during his career. During that time he had employer health care coverage to which he contributed. Economic theory would suggest the employer paid portion of the health care insurance coverage was part of his compensation.
At age 51 he is stricken with cancer while still employed. After a lengthy treatment, the cancer goes into remission but there is the potential for it to occur again at a later date. His endocrine system is damaged due to the cancer and he must take drugs daily for the rest of his life.
At age 55 the company executes a downsizing and he is involuntarily terminated. He immediately starts an aggressive job search and begins paying 100% of his health insurance coverage under Cobra. He is unsuccessful in finding full time employment but is able to find part time consulting work with two companies at a much lower income level with no benefits. After 18 months the Cobra insurance expires. He cannot find a private insurer to cover him and his family due to the preexisting condition even with an expensive high deductible policy.
Here is a person who has participated in the US health insurance system and paid into the system for 30 years. He has also been a taxpayer his entire working career, even now when he is working part time doing what he can in this tough economy. Since has worked for multiple employers he has been covered by multiple insurance companies, so he has no long standing relationship with any one insurance company. His preexisting condition occurred while he was a paying participant in the system. He is willing to continue paying for insurance, even at a high cost, but is being denied coverage due to preexisting conditions. What is your answer for this person?
1) Tough luck. That's the way it is. Have a good life if you can. In this case the "market" fails to cover a few people and you just happen to be one.
2) A government mandate insurance companies cover citizens with preexisting conditions (i.e. the 2014 Obamacare requirement).
3) A high risk pool with extremely high premiums, deductibles and copays for people with preexisting conditions. If this is your choice, who should administer it - private companies, the states, the federal government? If you choose private companies and they don't provide the pool, what do you do then? If someone has paid into the system for years, why should that person necessarily pay a higher cost for insurance?
4) Another idea?
We have a situation today where average middle class people who pay into the system for years can end up with a preexisting condition that prevents them from getting insurance. These people pay taxes and vote. If the conservative answer is "too bad the market doesn't provide you insurance, tough luck" then Democrats pick up at least one additional voter and perhaps many given that most individuals have extended families and friends.
Do you have an answer other than "too bad"?
Millions won't pay the fine or get insurance, creating the need for an IRS Gulag. http://www.futurnamics.com/gulag.php
That should be good for another 4 million vote loss in the next Presidential election, as well as the one after that.
Without the black vote the leftwingtards will need to assess their position and join or get out of the country.
That's what too much dope and untreated STDs will get you ~ an 8 million vote loss in effective strength in just a couple of elections!
The left is being pushed back hard ~
Didnt they win every non-white Demo including Asians?
I dont see the Hispanics shrinking in numbers anytime soon, they mult in # much faster than whites are esp now that illegals can work with O's waiver, and lots get in-state-tuition discounts.
We lived in Germany for a while about twenty years ago, where our health insurance coverage (including dental) was about $50.00 a month.
The German system, by the way, is not a 'benefits' or welfare system-- it is an actuarial based national insurance system. It works for the following reasons:
1) as I said, it's based on real actuarial calculations of the country's population and probable health care costs
2) there are almost no malpractice lawsuits-- to sue a doctor you first have to have a determination of medical malpractice by a medical review board and then there's a table of compensation limiting the maximum compensation depending on the injury. If the lawyer asks for more money than is awarded, the amount is reduced by double the difference.
3) Everybody pays: the employed and employers split the insurance cost and the government pays for the unemployed/disabled/retired (the German pension system is actuarial also, not like SS), etc.
4) Every year a panel of physicians, government officials and insurance companies haggle over reimbursement rates and adjust the insurance premiums as needed.
Their system works and ours is a nightmare where you never know if a trip to the hospital will leave you bankrupt, and Obamacare has just taken the worst elements of our system and multiplied them.
We should just pay the Germans to run our system for us.
Otherwise, for the most part, East Asian voters are not statistically significant in terms of the error margins in those exit polls.
The Hawaii Democrat party is owned by the largest East Asian group in Hawaii ~ the Japanese Americans. They are also the labor union membership.
I have a pre-existing condition.
I cannot get insurance.
I have had to pay 100 percent out of pocket for my healthcare needs since day one.
My answer to this individual is, "welcome to the crowd".
Also - not an Omugabe voter and holding me hostage with a sob story, ain't going to change me.
Home, Auto etc is based upon your risk. If we had a one size fits all HSA for Catastrophic Insurance, i.e. rebuild your leg after a bus ran over it, it would be relatively cheap for everyone.
If you have a pre-existing, sometimes in Life Insurance their are niche carriers that will insure you for X ailment, but they will change you more.
Obama's model would work better at Church where we take care of each other, then gain, he wants us to worship the State.
Speaking of Churches, both Churches and Credit Unions are successful 501(c)(3) natural groups, they could offer health insurance, and would have been my way to go instead of Obamacare...
As the English colonies, and then the United States expanded those earlier settlers and business people DID NOT GO HOME, nor did they move to Mexico. Their descendants are still here!
They not only 'melt' in well, we probably ought to put it the other way, the late arriving English and Irish melt in well!
Someday you need to read the Booke of the Livinge and the Deade ~ a Jamestown census take in the 1620s after a war with the Indians.
It reads like the Viet Nam Veterans' Memorial ~ a sea of names from every land on every continent ~ some clearly from some named place, and others not so clearly.
More recent hispanic legal immigrants quickly find their place ~ and sort themselves out like everyone else has ever done. They'll ultimately fit in well.
some of us or our loved ones will die never having known what was in it
When it comes to polls in general, the May PEW Report revealed they are all down to a 9% average response rate, which puts them within range of being seriously distorted by dedicated minority groups.
So, no, the results are meaningless.
The reality is the Baby Boomers are getting into the higher death rate ranges. That's where the game is being played out.
"Then some Rs will be tempted to raise the fines to keep the companies in business"
Then some Rs will be tempted to raise the fines because fines are good for lobby business.
The reason the fake HillaryRomney lost. They smelled right through it.
Have the "insurance" cos. gone out of business in Massachusetts?
Don't they have a real fine/mandate unlike O-care? I mean one that hurts if you don't comply? unlike O care.
NY is a better example as they have the goodie mandates without the fine, so rates are very high there.
I have several answers:
1) It is not my problem just as it is not my problem if the person does not have a car or a new Rolex for that matter if they want one. It is though my option to help them if I choose to. FYI, I have done that in the past. Even once for an employee who had cancer of the cervix. We not only made sure that they had insurance we also paid them for a year while they were going through things and did not work. By the way, it never once came to mind that we should require that someone else, including the government be forced to pay for things.
2) The market can handle these high risks but if it cannot then indeed it is "too bad". Harsh? Maybe, but this is not or used to not be a socialist country. Forcing any third party, including insurance companies, to be forced to pay for the person in the situation you describe is theft. Period.
3) If someone has paid in to the system and that system was constructed as some kind of health savings plan then they should see some of that money back. But if they paid premiums for all those years in to a pool that covered events that were insured then the person paid for what they got. Thinking that the person is "owed" something after paying in money for years is just wrong headed. Insurance is designed to cover the loses, that is for sure, but that is not what it is for. It is for covering the "risks". Anyone that uses the "hey I paid in to it" does not understand what insurance really is. The federal government and Congress is a good example of this. They don't understand insurance. They think it should be sensible to sell fire insurance after the house has started to burn. This is actually the scenerio you are describing. I suggest you take a look at "federal flood insurance" too. It ain't insurance but that is a topic I do not want to get in to here. Too long.
So basically my answer is that your scenerio while sad is not my problem unless I choose to make it mine. Under no circumstances should I be required to make it my personal problem.
The notion that Democrats pick up another voter as you assert is likely accurate. But that does not make it right nor does it make the theft of money out of my pocket to pay for the plight of someone else, no matter how sad, right.
Recently, I had a parent who has been retired for many years find that as they put it they were "outliving their money". Did I think of a way to get the government to pay them more? Nope. Did I ask the government to come up with a way to take money from others to help them? Nope. My solution was simple, I figured out a way to pay them myself. And the problem was solved. But here is what pisses me off about your sad sack story here. When people in the situation you describe sell their votes to the government and in return the government STEALS from me that means that they have just dug in to the same pocket that I use to pay for my parents in their golden years. It steals from the same pocket that I used to help my employee with cancer. It steals from the same pocket I use to help others whenever I can. So my reponse is not only "too bad" I add "how dare you" in addition to that!
Corporate government: the alliance and combination of socialist business and socialist government. Who would have guessed? Captain obvious, maybe?
Interesting - so the problem isn't young white folks like me. :) Also interesting that we are just as conservative as the boomers, if not more so. Gosh. Imagine that?
Look at the white people column again.
As you state, insurance is the pooling of funds to cover risk. For those who buy insurance, and continue to pay the premiums, when the risk event occurs the insurance pays off. Those who choose not to purchase insurance bear the full risk and if a risk event occurs must absorb the full loss.
If I have a fire and I'm insured, the insurance company pays for the loss. I then rebuild the house and continue to pay insurance. If the house burns down a second time my homeowner's insurance again pays to restore the house up to the limits of the policy. Unless there is fraud, the first fire (i.e. the preexisting condition) does not prevent me from continuing my insurance or being reimbursed if I have another fire.
Private health insurance is different in the US market due primarily to the lack of national portability. Ignore employer group insurance. If I buy an individual policy in New York, then move to Florida I cannot take my health insurance policy, and coverage, with me. I have to buy a new policy in Florida. If while covered by insurance in New York I am treated for cancer, when I move to Florida and try to buy insurance the cancer is considered a preexisting condition and may prevent me from purchasing health insurance in Florida. This has nothing to do with me expecting someone else to pay for my health care. I've paid for my health care prior to my move and wish to continue paying for my insurance coverage at my new location. The problem is the preexisting condition, which occurred when I was covered by insurance in another state, prevents me from buying insurance based on the way the system is constructed today. The same thing occurs if I lose my job (and employer health care coverage) and become self employed. I am willing to continue to pay the premiums for my existing policy/coverage, but that option ends when Cobra ends.
I suggest a conservative answer to the situation is to permit and encourage a national market for insurance which includes the policy portability which does not exist in our current state regulated market. Along with portability, the health insurance laws should allow employees in group plans to have the option of contracting directly with insurance companies instead of the contract being between the insurance company and the employer. With complete plan portability, the preexisting problem I outlined is eliminated for people who are actually paying into the system. If I lose my job with a company, as long as continue to pay the premium for my policy I still have insurance. If I move from New York to Florida, I do not have to buy a new insurance policy, my existing health insurance policy continues as long as I pay the premium. If I'm hired by a new employer who offers health insurance benefits, the new employer can pay whatever amount per employee its health insurance benefit equates to directly to the company providing my health insurance.
While I agree with you in principle that this isn't your problem, or my problem, the reality is the elected representatives of the people have decided it is our problem. Unfortunately, given the current makeup of the electorate, if the answer we conservatives provide to every problem debated in the political arena is "too bad", we are going to see more of our property and liberty taken from us by government. Perhaps it is time for us to engage in the debate by offering practical and real solutions. One reason we lost the healthcare debate is we did not provide alternatives that addressed the issues and concerns raised by the opposition, as well as many citizens, when we had control of Congress and the White House. Once the Democrats captured Congress and the White House they had the opportunity to address the problem in a way that made it our problem.
More national problems, or perceived problems, are going to be addressed by Congress in the near future. They include immigration, college education funding, gun control, the solvency of Social Security and Medicare, and funding the increasing size of government. I'm afraid "too bad" isn't going to be an acceptable answer to the Democrats and their voters. If "too bad" is all we have to offer, the elected representatives will choose other options and in doing so continue to take our property and infringe on our liberty.
See my response (#44) to isthisnickcool.
In principle I agree with you. Unfortunately, it appears 51% of the American people and the majority our elected representatives do not. I fear if we continue to engage in debate by offering "welcome to the crowd" as our answer, we will continue to lose at the ballot box and suffer the consequences.
"I fear if we continue to engage in debate by offering welcome to the crowd as our answer, we will continue to lose at the ballot box and suffer the consequences."
This was said once too about slavery. I have no right to claim the fruits of other's labors to fulfill my needs and desires. Nor does anyone else have claim to mine.
It is injust. Perpetuating an injustice to desire ephemeral popularity is a losing cause for team conservative.
I understand everything you said. Maybe health and disability insurance should be open to the same restraints as far as portability as life insurance is. I don't believe that this should apply to property and casualty lines. I believe that property and casualty lines regulation should stay with the states. Local overview has made for a very stable market in the P&C lines. Unlike health and disability insurance property and casualty insurance is based on localized risk factors such as location, construction, use, etc. while health and disability is based on actuarial experience of human beings. In the latter regard allowing for the pooling of risk across a broader base would allow for better rates.
My view is that the pooling of health and diability policies among a broader base by allowing for multi-state grouping of risks (people) would likely by itself have solved the "health care" issue in the United States.
Your analogy regarding the fire insurance and house rebuilding after a fire is nonsensical. The first fire is not a pre-existing condition once the house is rebuilt. The house is no longer on fire.
As far as the other issues such as college education (I paid for my own and my child) while the answer "too bad" may not be an answer some want to hear my response is "too bad" we have morons in Washington and in the White House passing laws that are unconstitutional. It is also "too bad" that the Supreme Court has lost its mind. Things are what they are and if conservatives must become liberals, meaning we must in the words of Texan Clayton Williams "relax and enjoy it" you can count me out. If the ship is going to sink I prefer not to help it. Actually, I'm not going for along for the ride because there are always ways around obstacles.
I pay my own way as well. My first paying job at age 6 working on a neighbor's farm for 25 cents a day. I cleaned toilets, dug ditches, threw newspapers, hauled furniture, mowed yards, and painted houses for cash in hand before I was old enough to work my way through college with paycheck jobs and start climbing the corporate ladder. I also paid for the portion of my child's education she could not cover herself while working during her school years. I've never asked anyone or any entity for a hand for me or my family and I never intend to do so.
I also know what it is like to lose a job, lose employer paid health insurance, and not be able to buy health insurance at any price due to preexisting conditions which occurred while insured under an employer plan. Fortunately I saved a enough of my income and to able to pay for my medical care on my own. I've also not applied for the Social Security disability payments for which i am eligible because I prefer to be self reliant. I might add that Social Security is an insurance program I was compelled to participate in and into which I have paid the maximum amount for 30 years.
Rightly or wrongly I have the potential to benefit from Obamacare because in 2014 I will be able to purchase the health insurance I've been trying to buy but the market will not provide. I might add this is a program to which I am opposed as I believe there are market based health care reforms which should be enacted (such as allowing portability and a national insurance market) and which would lower health care costs while providing options not available today for people to protect themselves from the future risk of being in the pre existing condition insurance dilemma.
So here is my problem. If I claim to be a conservative would you have me stand on principle, refuse to buy health insurance under Obamacare, and then be compelled by the IRS to pay a fine for not having insurance under the law? Or should I buy the health insurance the government will require companies to provide people with pre existing conditions, knowing that this will mean my fellow citizens are being forced by government to "subsidize" my medical care expenses?
If I stand on principle, and continue to pay my own way, my costs go up because the Obamacare law requires me to pay a substantial fine for not being insured. However if I buy insurance available under the law to those with preexisting conditions, my fellow conservatives will consider me to be a chiseler because they are being compelled to subsidize the cost of my medical care. Under the second choice my health care costs will go down substantially so it is certainly in my economic interest to obey the law. Recognize that due to the fine imposed by the government and enforced by the IRS, for not having health insurance, I will no longer have the option of simply continuing to pay my own way and be left alone.
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