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Winners from Afghanistan, China, Guyana, Japan and the Maldives are Recognized as Pillars of Transition to a 21st Century Green Economy Seoul (Republic of Korea), 22 April 2010 - The 2010 Champions of the Earth, the United Nations' highest awards for environmental leadership, were announced today. The six winners, drawn from the worlds of government, science, business and entertainment, each exemplify how action, inspiration, personal commitment and creativity can catalyze a transition to a low carbon, resource efficient 21st-century Green Economy.Achim Steiner, UN Under-Secretary-General and UN Environment Programme (UNEP) Executive Director, today announced the winners of this year's UNEP Champions of the Earth awards as: The President of Guyana and passionate forestry and ecosystem infrastructure proponent, Mr. Bharrat Jagdeo The President of the Maldives and international climate change campaigner, His Excellency Mohamed Nasheed Afghanistan's Director General of the National Environmental Protection Agency and avid sustainability advocate, Prince Mostapha Zaher Japanese earth scientist and pioneer of research into how the oceans cycle carbon, Dr. Taro Takahashi Chinese actress and popular green life-style guru, Ms. Zhou Xun American venture capitalist, green energy entrepreneur and co-founder of Sun Microsystems, Vinod Khosla. The trophies were presented at a gala event in Seoul, Republic of Korea during Earth Day and in conjunction with the Business for the Environment Global Summit (B4E), which is being attended by more than 1,000 representatives from business, government, and civil society.Mr. Steiner said: "The six winners represent some of the key pillars upon which society can build Green Growth and a development path to unite rather than divide six billion people. Entrepreneur Vinod Khosla has made it a personal mission to realize a low-carbon path by establishing investments in clean and renewable energy start-ups.""President Nasheed is not only an articulate voice for the vulnerable and the poor facing the challenges of global warming, but a politician who is showcasing to the rest of the world how a transition to climate neutrality can be achieved and how all nations, no matter how big or how small, can contribute.""Dr Takahasi has pioneered the science of climate change as it relates to the seas and oceans. In doing so, his work not only underlines the threats but also the policy choices governments and investors must make to ensure the marine realm remains healthy, productive and an ally against climate change.""Prince Zaher has transformed environmental policy and laid the foundation for sustainability in one of the most challenging countries on the planet at this moment in history. He has balanced the day-to-day realities of Afghanistan with a determination that his country will have clean air and healthy water - backed by laws - upon which a sustainable and peaceful society can be built.""Zhou Xun is an actress and one of, if not the, most popular and acclaimed celebrities in China. Her well publicized statements, advice and life-style choices are influencing millions of fans to become more environmentally-conscious citizens and consumers.""Last but not least, President Jagdeo is a powerful advocate of the need to conserve and more intelligently manage the planet's natural and nature-based assets. He has recognized more than most the multiple Green Economy benefits of forests in terms of combating climate change, but also in terms of development; employment; improved water supplies and the conservation of biodiversity," said Mr. Steiner. The awards, first established in 2004, recognize achievements in areas of: Entrepreneurial Vision, Policy and Leadership, Science and Innovation, Inspiration and Action, and a special category for 2010, Biodiversity and Ecosystems Management. The Champions of the Earth is an international environment award given out every year by the United Nations Environment Programme (UNEP). The award recognizes individuals who embody commitment and vision towards environmental leadership through their action and their influence. To date, the award has recognized 34 outstanding environmental leaders. ENTREPRENEURIAL VISION - Khosla Ventures / Vinod Khosla A legendary venture capitalist and the co-founder of Sun Microsystems, Vinod Khosla has been dubbed Silicon Valley's 'Mr. Green'. In September 2009, Khosla's venture capital firm, Khosla Ventures, announced it had raised US$1.1 billion in a "green fund" that would be used to spur development of renewable energy and other clean technologies. The fund came at a time when venture capital investments in green technology were just beginning to recover from a precipitous fall prompted by the global economic collapse in 2008. Of the US$1.1 billion, US$800 million will place investments in more established technologies while US$275 million will be used to make smaller investments in earlier stage technology companies. At the time of its announcement, the fund was the largest launched since 2007 and one of the largest ever launched for clean technologies. Mr. Khosla has begun several environmental start-ups to try to reduce the world's dependence on petroleum. He says the burgeoning revolution in oil alternatives will be bigger - far bigger - than the internet revolution of yesteryear. In his personal life, Khosla is carbon-neutral. He offsets his own carbon emissions with TerraPass.com and Carbonfund.org, and says he will soon be carbon-negative. In January 2010, Bill Gates announced he has invested in Khosla's green technology fund. When asked about Khosla, Gates said: "He is backing some great entrepreneurs. I get some exposure to them as part of that. Innovation is called for in a big way."POLICY AND LEADERSHIP - President Mohamed Nasheed, Maldives His Excellency Mohamed Nasheed has been the President of the Maldives since 2008. He has received global recognition for his efforts to curb climate change and raise awareness of environmental issues, particularly as it related to island-nations. He featured prominently in the international media in the run-up to, and during, the United Nations climate change conference in Copenhagen in December. During that time, he even convened an underwater cabinet meeting on the ocean floor to highlight the grave climate change-related threats to the Maldives. President Nasheed has pledged to make the Maldives the world's first carbon-neutral country by 2020. He has warned that Maldivians may be forced to seek a new homeland should rising sea levels make the Maldivians' archipelago uninhabitable. Moreover, he is campaigning for the protection of coral reefs that helped save his country from the devastating 2005 tsunami by absorbing the brunt of the powerful earthquake-triggered wave. President Nasheed, a former journalist who was jailed several times for his articles, formed the Maldivian Democratic Party (MDP) while in self-proclaimed exile. He returned to the Maldives in 2005 to begin promoting the MDP. In 2008, President Nasheed won the country's first ever multiparty presidential election by popular vote. He has received several awards in recognition of his pioneering environmental work: Time Magazine named him a 2009 Hero of the Environment, and 'The Age of Stupid', the film on the devastating effects of climate change, presented him with an award at the film's global premiere in New York City during Global Climate Week in September 2009. President Nasheed continues to urge various leaders from developing or vulnerable countries like the Maldives to break away from carbon-based growth and to embrace green technologies for a carbon neutral future.SCIENCE AND INNOVATION - Dr. Taro Takahashi, Earth Scientist, Japan After earning a degree in engineering, a doctorate in Earth Science and a professorship at Queens College and Columbia University, Dr. Taro Takahashi is now a Senior Scholar at the Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory of Columbia University. Dr. Takahashi has devoted five decades of his life to discovering how carbon cycles through oceans, land and atmosphere, and his work is the foundation upon which all carbon-cycle research is now built. Dr. Takahashi found that the majority of global CO2 resided in the ocean. He also made many important observations of oceanic absorption and its variation depending on water temperature and seasons. Dr. Takahashi explains that his main research "is aimed at understanding the fate of industrial CO2 released in the air" and hopes that his study "will lead to a better understanding and hence to a reliable prediction of the oceans' capacity to absorb industrial CO2". The idea is to estimate the extent of the capacity of the oceans as a climate regulator. With financial support from the Ford Company, which recognized him with the Ford Award in 2004, he has been studying how climate change may alter interactions between land and oceans, as well as the solutions for mitigating these alterations. "He initiated the methods we all use," said Richard Feely, an oceanographer at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration who studies El Niño and carbon cycling. "Just about everyone who has worked with him has benefited from his wisdom and advice."INSPIRATION AND ACTION Prince Mostapha Zaher, Afghanistan Zhou Xun, Actor and Environment Advocate, ChinaPrince Mostapha Zaher, Afghanistan Afghanistan's 46-year-old Director General of the National Environmental Protection Agency (NEPA), Prince Mostapha Zaher has laid the foundation for a sustainable and peaceful future in Afghanistan. For the past five years, he has worked tirelessly for the environment in a country ravaged by 25 years of war and continues to find ways to bring clean, efficient and cost-effective solutions to the citizens of one of the world's poorest nations. In 2004, after the fall of the Taliban, Zaher and his family returned to his homeland where he gave up his post as Ambassador to Italy to take up the job as Director General of the newly formed NEPA. The opportunity revived Zaher's lifelong dream of turning the royal hunting grounds into a nature reserve open to all Afghans. Since taking the post, he has rewritten the nation's environmental laws, including an act in the Constitution declaring it the responsibility of every Afghan citizen to "protect the environment, conserve the environment, and to hand it over to the next generation in the most pristine condition possible". In 2008, he attended the Washington International Renewable Energy Conference (WIREC), where he pledged to improve air quality in Kabul between 10-12 per cent by the year 2012. His commitments work in tandem with Afghanistan's Environment Act of 2006. At the same time, NEPA announced it would allocate at least 3 per cent of its core budget to environmental research and development. In partnership with the Ministry of Energy and Water and the international community, NEPA hopes to apply cutting edge solar and wind technology to address environmental concerns in Afghanistan. Zhou Xun Zhou Xun, one of China's most popular actresses, spends much of her time promoting 'tips for green living' through Our Part, a campaign she runs jointly with the United Nations Development Programme (UNDP). The actress encourages people to reduce their carbon footprint through simple changes in lifestyle, something that can make a huge difference in a country the size of China. Zhou Xun points out that if every car-owning family in China drove just 200 km less in a year, carbon dioxide emissions would be cut by 460,000 tons. She also states that small efforts like unplugging appliances can make a huge impact in China, a country with 300 million TV sets and 500 million mobile phones. She works on reducing her own carbon footprint and follows her tips in her own day-to-day life. She takes her own chopsticks, mugs and shopping bags with her wherever she goes and tries to convince others to use reusable products. She plants three trees for every 200 km of her car travel and is planting many more to offset her flights from 2008. And when it's feasible, she bikes or walks to her destinations. Zhou Xun was named a UNDP Goodwill Ambassador for China in 2008 with a special focus of promoting environmental sustainability and will be the Green Ambassador for the 2010 World Expo in Shanghai. SPECIAL CATEGORY (Biodiversity & Ecosystems Management) President Bharrat Jagdeo, Guyana Guyana's 45-year old President Bharrat Jagdeo has gained international recognition for his position on environmental issues within his country and on the global scale. As the President of a country with 40 million acres of untouched rainforest, Mr. Jagdeo has been working on inviting donors and investors to pay for the protection of the forests through the sale of carbon credits, or investments in eco-tourism and pharmaceutical discoveries. With the money he expects to generate from this trade, President Jagdeo plans to improve the country's coastal infrastructure to protect it from the potential rise in sea levels. He has proposed that the UN Reduced Emission from Deforestation and Forest Degradation (REDD) program adopts Guyana's model on forest management and has encouraged the rest of the world to live in a way "where protecting forests is more economically prudent than cutting them down". He served as Guyana's Prime Minister and Minister of Finance prior to winning the presidency in 2001 and 2006. Notes to Editors: The Champions of the Earth awards were established in 2004 by the United Nations Environment Programme (UNEP). The award recognizes individuals who embody commitment and vision towards environmental leadership through their action and their influence. To date, the award has recognized 34 outstanding environmental leaders including Al Gore, Brazil's former Environment Minister Marina Silva, Sudanese researcher Dr. Balgis Osman-Elasha and Olympic Committee Chair Jacques Rogge, among others. The 2010 prize categories are: Entrepreneurial Vision, Policy and Leadership, Science and Innovation, Inspiration and Action, and a special category, Biodiversity and Ecosystems Management.This year, members of the public had the opportunity to nominate people online for the prize. More than 100 nominations were submitted from around the world. The nominees were then shortlisted and the finalists were chosen through an internal review. Thanks to a new partnership with LG Electronics Inc., this year's Champions of the Earth Awards will come for the first time with a monetary prize of US$40,000 for each of the category winners. In addition to the especially commissioned trophy created by renowned Chinese artist, Yuan Xikun, the cash prize serves as an incentive and resource for growing and replicating the laureates' work and their impact on the communities they serve. Quotes from the 2010 Champions of the Earth: As he accepted the Award, President Nasheed said: "I am delighted to accept this prize on behalf of the whole Maldives. It goes to show that by doing the right thing, a small country can make a big impact on the world stage. The climate crisis threatens us all. What happens to the Maldives today, happens to the rest of the world tomorrow. We are all Maldivians now." See 'Further Resources' for the speeches by the winners and by UNEP Executive Director Achim Steiner. For more information on the Champions of the Earth awards, visit: www.unep.org/champions For more information on UNEP's work on the green economy, visit: www.unep.org/greeneconomy About the B4E Summit: B4E is the biggest annual gathering of leaders from business, government, NGOs and the media, which aims to foster dialogue and business-driven action towards a global Green Economy. The summit, which takes place this year in Seoul (Republic of Korea) on 21-23 April, is co-hosted by UNEP, the UN Global Compact, and the Worldwide Fund for Nature (WWF). It will bring together hundreds of business leaders to address topics such as resource efficiency, renewable energies, new business models and climate policy and strategies. For more information on the B4E summit, visit: www.b4esummit.com For more information on UNEP's work on the green economy, visit: www.unep.org/greeneconomy For more information please contact: Nick Nuttall, UNEP Spokesperson/Head of Media: Mobile: 254 733 632 755 or while traveling: +41 79 596 57 37, Email: firstname.lastname@example.com Shereen Zorba, UNEP News Desk: Mobile: +254 713601259, E-mail: email@example.com Nicolle Kuritsky, Edelman, Mobile: +82 (10) 3889-8902, E-mail: email@example.com


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2. I found the secrets to be a bit too obscure - though that could be because I'm rubbish at finding them. We'll see what the others say. I thought the soulsphere secret was particulary difficult - I would never have guessed the texture was a switch never mind finding out what it did!
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1. No co-op starts. I know i didn't specify it in the rules but in retrospect there should at least be the option even if it's not tested or otherwise taken into consideration design-wise.
3. The switch to lower the red key is marked with the REDDOOR texture, which might confuse people into thinking you need a red key to hit it. Though it didn't cause that problem for me.
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I'll just add the other starts in the elevator before I host it. I'm sure they'll fit. It doesn't matter if it's designed for SP but I'd like the co-op starts to at least be there. I'm not bothered about DM starts.
Do you think it would spoil the atmosphere to have an exit sign either near the sewer bars or the switch the opens them? It just annoys some people to exit by accident without being able to check they have maxed it.
I think the other confusing thing about the REDDOOR texture is you use it on a switch near the beginning to indicate you need a red key. When I saw the switch that lowers the red key at first I thought 'so I need a red key for this switch too' then I thought 'I'll try it anyway before I go search the rest of the map'. Maybe other peoples experiences are different.
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Nothing wrong with it.
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Maybe it will look a bit cheesy, but never mind.
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I'm assuming almost everybody have played with 2002ADO or WOS before, at least once. Switches in those WADs are often signed in that way. The other thing is to mention is the yellow key door before it. People must know that they have no chance but try that switch in the middle of the hi-tech, even if the other one is, near the bars locking the sewers, needs the key to open. Other way, getting the yellow key will make no sense.
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Have you read your PM yet by the way? I pasted you some alterations to your story and I want to check with you that it's OK.
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Well the bold now that you mention it seems the most plausible. They were practically giving off fear of both of Unohana, and Kenpachi. Wouldn't be surprised if to counter her possible power, they gave the ultimatum To Unohana, leave SS or do something that reduces your power.
Think this kind of brings Kenpachi's eyepatch into a whole new light! He says he asked for it and no doubt he did, but just imagine behind the scenes they were possibly preparing that and more as a just in case.
Wouldn't be so sure on the underlined. There's many possible reasons that would encourage explaining in later 'flashback' chapters, and possibly derived situations, which might seem the path Tite Kubo might want to go.
For 1 example If they're afraid of Zaraki then they also probably feared the 1st Kenpachi, even possibly now, so why give her total absolute power just about that easily. For another example, Unohana's been healing for a while, maybe they think she's no longer at that level worthy( they being the central 46).


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The (Very Early) Look at the 2013/14 Flames Line-Up
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July 16 2013 10:06AM
With Prospect Development Camp almost at an end, intrigue builds as to which prospects participating have a shot at the big club come October and what the lines might look like once the season opener rolls around. The 2013/14 Flames will undoubtedly feature an unseen blend of youth and veteran presence and will likely carry the youngest average age the team has seen in a decade.
Many guys at the prospect camp impressed and excited Flames fans with a glimpse of what the future might hold for the franchise. It is however important to maintain perspective and know that even though particular prospects excelled, they did so against lesser competition in a scrimmage setting. Nonetheless the future is bright and there are a number of the players attending said camp that could sneak a taste of the show as soon as next season.
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Roman Horak and Sven Baertschi seem to be the locks to make the team at this point with Corban Knight, Sean Monahan and Max Reinhart also looking like strong possibilities for the opening day roster. Other guys like Kenny Agostino and Johnny Gaudreau probably posses the talent and ability to make the transition to pro for the upcoming season but have both chosen to return to college. The Flames don't have many roster spots left anyways and the team isn't going to meaningfully comepte in 2013-14, so there's no reason to rush those guys at this point.
The good news is we can expect them both to make their NHL debut's as soon as the end of this upcoming year. Agostino is a senior and will likely sign his Entry Level Contract upon completion of his college season. Gaudreau - who is going into his junior (penultimate) year of college - recently revealed to Darren Haynes that he's leaning towards bypassing his senior year at BC and debuting for the Flames at the completion of his college season.
So in theory, we could see them both at the tail end of the 2013/14 NHL regular season, although Agostino may need to spend some time proving himself in the AHL. Gaudreau, on the other hand, may be the sort of talent who can skip that intermediate step.
Markus Granlund is another guy who made a positive impression at dev camp and looks like he could potentially make a bid for a roster spot. However a skilled, offensive minded point getter like Granlund needs at least Top 9 minutes to be effective and there doesn't look to be much room on the wings or at center for Calgary outside the 4th line. In addition, this will be his first year in
The defensemen are a completely different story. While that area of the prospect cupboard is stocked efficiently, there doesn't look to be anyone in particular currently at the camp that could legitimately compete for a spot -barring injury. Mark Cundari - who is not at the camp - seems to be the only rookie blueliner that will have a real shot at cracking the Top 6 come October with Chris Breen also having an outside shot. Tyler Wotherspoon is probably the most NHL ready of the D-men at camp but that speaks more to the un-readiness of the group as a whole than to where Wotherspoon is as a player. A full year in Abbotsford for Tyler would be ideal before he takes the next step.
In goal, Reto Berra - the elder statesmen of the group - will get a chance to compete with favourite Karri Ramo and journeyman Joey MacDonald for the starting position, but will likely find himself in Abbotsford as well. There he'll do battle with Joni Ortio and Laurent Brossoit for one of the two jobs up for grabs. Berra and Ortio are the favourites to land the two spots leaving Laurent Brossoit on the outside looking in.
A return to the WHL for his overage season seems unlikely - especially with young stud Tristan Jarry chomping at the bit to take over between the pipes in
Now, let's throw in the youngsters in with whatever NHLers the Flames still have on their roster and see how it all shakes down...
The Forwards
The depressing deficiency at center will be a hot topic again this season, although the 2013/14 edition of the Calgary Flames will likely feature a couple possible future solutions to the problem. Both Corban Knight and Sean Monahan seem destined for the opening day roster and both carry considerable potential with them. I expect them along with Mikael Backlund to fill the Top 3 center positions with Matt Stajan either playing wing or returning to his familiar 4th line pivot position.
Yes, Stajan is probably a better NHLer at this point than Knight and Monahan, but this season has been sold to the fans as a year to give the youngsters a shot to strut their stuff. That said, Stajan on the 4th line is unlikely to happen for a couple of reasons:
1) He's in the final year of his deal and if the Flames can showcase him and inflate his numbers a bit they might be able to trade him for real assets and
2) They want to ice the best roster possible and as mentioned previously, Matt Stajan is a superior NHLer than the other guys mentioned (before you guys go nuts on me, keep in mind neither Monahan nor Knight have played a second of NHL hockey).
I however see no other place where he fits in without displacing someone I'd rather not see displaced, so Matty, be a good sport and suffer through one more year of grinding out 8 minutes a night.
Last season, the Flames tried to solve their center ice dilemma by plugging wingers like Alex Tanguay and Mike Cammalleri into that spot, however given the circumstances this year, we are unlikely to see that. On the wings, the Flames actually have some decent depth to play around with. Mike Cammalleri, Curtis Glencross along with Jiri Hudler and Sven Baertschi will probably be the go to wingers occupying the four Top 6 wing positions with Lee Stempniak and David Jones working the 3rd unit for Calgary. Again, an argument could be made (don't make it) for either Jones or Stempniak being superior NHLers than Baertschi at the moment, but the guy can clearly play at this level and a top 6 spot is exactly what he needs to spread his wings and break out.
So with the Top 9 sorted out, that leaves us at the 4th and final line which is anyone's guess. Face punchers Tim Jackman and Brian MacGrattan will compete with youngsters like Roman Horak, Blair Jones and Max Reinhart for the three available spots. TJ Galiardi is another guy who likely figures into Calgary's bottom 6 and right now the only available spot I see for him is on the 4th unit. It's a shame because Galiardi still has decent potential and could blossom if given the opportunity to - but I just don't see where he figures in, absent a Cammalleri trade, which would shuffle things a bit.
In all likelihood, the press box will be securely guarded by at least one of the tough guys at all times this year and the young guns along with Galiardi will cycle in and out of the line up based on merit. Who knows? As weird as it is to say it, I think the 4th line will be one of the more interesting situations to monitor at camp this fall.
So having said all that, here's what I think it could look like come opening night, barring injuries of course:
(Note: Since guys tend to switch wings at times during the year, I ditched the LW/RW for a simple W as in wing)
Line 1: Curtis Glencross - Mikael Backlund - Mike Cammalleri
Line 2: Sven Baertschi - Corban Knight - Jiri Hudler
Lee Stempniak - Sean Monahan - David Jones
Line 4: Tim Jackman/TJ Galiardi - Matt Stajan - Roman Horak/Brian McGrattan
Max Reinhart
Special Teams: Everyone within the Top 9 will probably see some power play timea, although expect Glencross, Cammalleri and Hudler to feature prominently with Baertschi, Stempniak and Backlund likely getting their reps as well. This year and the PK will probably be the same as last year - run by committee.
I'll be intrigued to see if Hartley tries out an "all kid" PP line to inject some creativity and young blood into what has been somewhat of a stale advantage at times. I mean boy, how great would it be to see Baertschi, Knight and Monahan work magic with the man advantage?
The Defensemen
The back-end is a little easier to sort out as there hasn't been a lot of movement in terms of transactions. Press-box regulars Cory Sarich and Anton Babchuck departed the team and Shayne O'Brien joined via Colorado. Mark Giordano is the team's undisputed number one defensemen now with Bouwmeester gone and that probably makes Dennis Wideman number two on the depth chart. TJ Brodie is #3 right now and could move up the rotation if he continues to develop as rapidly as he did last season. Mark Cundari had a nice run with Brodie to end the as eason and could get that chance again as a result, meaning Gio and Wideman could very well end up the top pairing with the two 23-year olds rounding out the top 4.
The Flames have plenty of depth defensemen with the likes of Shayne O'Brien, Chris Butler, Derek Smith and Chris Breen will likely battle it out for the last two spots. I mentioned earlier Tyler Wotherspoon is one of the most NHL ready defensemen prospects and while he may get a look in training camp, his regular season debut may be via call up later in the year as a result of an injury or just plain merit. Some AHL seasoning under Troy Ward in Abbotsford could be the perfect stepping stone for Wotherspoon on his route to the big leagues.
The Flames could very well do what they did last season and carry 7 defensemen to keep everyone on their toes and working their hardest to maintain their spot in the line-up.
So in principle, that would equate to this:
Pairing 1: Mark Giordano - Dennis Wideman
Pairing 2: TJ Brodie - Mark Cundari
Pairing 3: Chris Butler - Shayne O'Brien
Derek Smith/Crhis Breen
Special Teams: The power play may see a forward - namely Mike Cammalleri - play one of the defense positions but nonetheless its safe to say that Giordano and Wideman will both be relied on. The offensive upside on D thins out considerably after those two, although Brodie and Cundari have both shown flashes of offensive acumen at other levels. As for the PK, you're likely to see a lot of the top pairing plus a helping of Chris Butler and especially a bigger guy like Shane O'Brien (or Breen if he makes the team).
The Goaltenders
5 guys, 2 NHL spots and 2 AHL spots. Oh, it'll be a battle. I'd like to believe it's anyone's game - I mean how fun would a Brossoit/Ortio NHL tandem be - but when you sneak a peek at NHLNumbers, you'll find it's really not anyone's game at all. Ramo carries the biggest cap hit and has been built up as the heir to Kirpusoff's throne so he'll will more than likely enter the year as the number one (I debuted at FN with a piece on what to expect from the 27 year old). I'd say at this point, Ramo is a 50/50 bet to turn into the starter Calgary requires.
We've seen first hand what the "best guy not in the NHL" can turn into (see: Cervenka, Roman) but they can also turn into suitable NHLers (see: Fasth, Viktor and Brunner, Damien).
Backing him up appears at this point to be Joey MacDonald. The Flames probably want a veteran presence behind Ramo who can bail him out if the "best NOT in the NHL" turns into "the worst IN the NHL". That being said, Flames brass also seem very confident in Reto Berra and if he comes into camp and impresses, he could probably wrestle the job out of MacDonald's hands. MacDonald could also be ferried to and from the AHL as necessary (he would have to be put on waivers but his being claimed is slim to none - although you never know with them Islanders) so giving Berra a chance is definitely not out of the question.
And so begins the post-Kiprusoff era:
Starter: Karri Ramo
Backup: Joey MacDonald/Reto Berra
By the way, Kiprusoff had a cool nickname (Kipper, Kip) and MacDonald's name offers the obvious one (Mac) but the other two - Ramo and Berra - to my knowledge enter the organization absent a nickname. I think it's crucial that Flames faithful brand the two with nicknames before their play brands one for them - for better or for worse.
It's also not out of the realm of possibility - especially if the injury bug bites or the season goes to hell again - that we see the other two, Ortio and Brossoit, make their Flames debut's this season, just to see what they're made of. It'll be a rollercoaster of a year for sure.
Much like the fans of every other NHL franchise, some Flames fans may look at this roster and think "not bad".
Fact is, the rest of the world - and some realistic/pessimistic Flames fans - look on the Calgary Flames' projected line-up for the 2013/14 season and ink them into the 30th hole on their projected standing order for the upcoming season. Most of the guys listed on the Flames' roster won't crack the Top 6 of almost every other NHL team - and that doesn't add up to a positive outcome. Yes, they there's a possibility the stars will align and they'll have a Blue Jacket-esque season, but the odds say they won't.
This isn't reason to fret though. The team finally has direction and a thoroughly crap season like the one we seem to embarking on is exactly what is necessary in order to build a championship calibre team. Teams like CHicago, Pittsburgh and Los Angeles struggled for yers before becoming powerhouses and for the Flames a few years of pain seems to be the only way to turn the ship around.
It's a shame that Connor McDavid is two years away from eligibility because Calgary probably won't bomb the year after this one too and he looks to be at this point, a generational - might I even say Crosby - like talent. But the 2014 crop is a good one too. Not looking as strong as 2013 but nonetheless a quality at the top end. An Aaron Ekblad on the blueline or a William Nylander up front will further the rebuild along the right path and if managment can preserve patience to rebuild the right way, all the suffering will soon be proved worth it.
So those are my projected lines at this point, let me know in the comments what you see the opening night line-up to be!
Cammy - Stajan - Stemp
Sven - Backlund - Hudler
Glenx - Knight - Jones
Galliardi - Horak - Jackman/McGrattan
July 16 2013, 10:17AM
The Ram and the Bear.
July 16 2013, 10:20AM
I think both Knight and Monahan make the team but no way they play on top two lines (at centre).
IMO the youth will be those two + Sven up front and exactly how you listed on back end.
The rest start in AHL and cycle through (Horak, Reinhart).
Horak could beat Knight but its for 4th line centre. Jackman and Bouma will be wingers.
Am I crazy or did Cammy get a handful of games at center last year?
Missing Kris Russell. And why Stajan on 4th line after last yr?
Cammalleri/Stajan/Stempniak (UFA line)
Kris Russel on D?
Glencross-Stajan-Stempniak Baertschi-Backlund-Cammalleri Hudler-Knight-Jones Galiardi-Bouma-McGrattan/Jackman
Giordano-Brodie Russell-Wideman O'Brien-Butler Breen-Cundari
Ramo Berra
July 16 2013, 10:35AM
I was about to say...no Kris Russel!
Swap him out for Cundari likely. Maybe move Brodie up with Wideman:
Brodie - Wideman Giordano - Russel
Oof. For the Flames to make the playoffs they would need Ramo to win the Vezina and Sven or Monahan to win the Calder. That's not happening, but that's OK.
I'd like to give the hard minutes to a Glencross/Stajan/Stempniak line, so as to allow the kids to get some easier minutes. I'd consider putting Backlund in Stajan's place on the tough minutes line, but I'd also like to see him get some chances to find his offensive ability.
If Monahan is ready to jump right into the show, I'd be a big fan of putting him with Sven and Cammy. Flames aren't winning many games anyway so might as well entertain the fans. If Cammy is not fast enough for that line put Jones or Hudler there.
I'm excited for the season, even with the low expectations. It'll be strange watching a whole season of Flames hockey sans Jarome, but I think I'll get used to it. Schedule comes out this week I believe so we'll see when is whole thing kicks off shortly
July 16 2013, 10:40AM
Berra and Baertschi. Who gets to be Bear and who has to be Yogi? Ramo is the Ram, obviously.
Cammy - Stajan - Stemp
Sven - Backlund - Hudler
Glenx - Knight - Jones
Galliardi - Horak - Jackman/McGrattan
I like those lines Chillgoose, except think Galliardi would be better utilized top 9.
It is almost like you can draw staws at the begining of each game to see where you are playing .
July 16 2013, 10:51AM
Interesting, I may be wrong but I was thinking we would actually be worse in 2014/2015 than 2013/2014 if/once we've traded away some veteran talent: Cammalleri, Stempniak, etc. Their point production/leadership would be tough to replace.
Cammalleri - Stajan - Hudler GlenX - Backlund - Stempniak Sven - Knight/Monahan - Jones Galliardi - Horak - Jackman McGrattan
Monahan is in a tough spot, he's probably outgrown the CHL but might not be ready for the NHL and can't join the AHL; give him nine games to see how it goes. If Jackman can be the 2010/2011 Jackman I like our fourth line.
Is Baertschi still calder eligible? I also like your hard minutes line, and I think Hartley does too. My lines would look like this:
Glencross / Stajan / Stempniak
Cammalleri / Backlund / Hudler
D. Jones / Monahan or Knight / Baertschi
Galiardi / Horak / Jackman or Bouma
if neither Monahan or Knight can make it, I'd look at having Jones or Galiardi play center, or Hudler (or even Cammalleri) moving down to the third line.
Wideman / Brodie
Gio / Russell
O'Brien / Butler
July 16 2013, 11:06AM
The good news is for the first time in a long time, we have depth at every position.
Good ol' Rambo and Berretta. Young Guns.
IIRC Calder eligibility requires the following:
1) The player has NOT played >25 games in a single season
2) The player has NOT played >6 games in the two previous seasons
Looking up Baertschi's GP, it looks like yes, he is still eligible for the Calder. He played 5 games in 11/12 and 20 in 12/13, so he meets both requirements.
I, and several others from the older days at M&G, referred to McGrattan and Ivanans as the 'Dancing Bears'. I'd say 'Bear' is taken for now.
Or, we could start calling McGrattan and Jackman the Bash Bros, and enjoy the ensuing hilarity when they go around the rink, sandwiching players and strip dancing in the penalty box. It worked in Mighty Ducks.
July 16 2013, 11:18AM
@Scary Gary
I think it's possible the Flames are worse next year as well Gary. If Cammalleri, Stempniak, Stajan and Hudler (who I assume might as for an out here) are gone, it's going to be the kids, Backlund, Glencross and the pluggers up front.
After trade deadline:
Ship out: Cammalleri, Stempniak, Stajan, Butler, Jackman and Smith (if possible).
How come no love for Reinhart? I thought in the limited action he got last year, he certainly showed he belonged in the show. That must win game for the Oil, he played really well. Are the Flames sour on him?
How come no love for Reinhart? I thought in the limited action he got last year, he certainly showed he belonged in the show. That must win game for the Oil, he played really well. Are the Flames sour on him?
Even though we dont have elite players we still have alot of depth.
Reinhart will have a hard time beating out the centers above him on the depth charts.
He will be better served going back to Abby and being one of the first injury recalls anyway.
He will be up on the team, but probably not until injuries occur.
July 16 2013, 11:29AM
I don't even think Monahan makes the team this year (rather, he shouldn't)
I think it's a mistake not to pair Sven with Backlund, I think those two are just really well suited for each other. You could throw Glencross on the other wing if you really want that added "grit", and that's actually a very nice looking second line.
I don't think Brossoit loses out to Ortio in Abby, just because it's super easy to send Ortio back to Finland where he will see some very good competition instead of sending Brossoit to the ECHL where, yeah, not so much. I think Brossoit even challenges Berra for the starting role, because, and I'm going to say this a lot, I don't think Berra is very good. He's an average goalie in the Swiss league, what makes anyone think he has what it takes to get it done over here?
For me I like
Cammy - Franchise - Stemps SVEN - Backlund - Glencross Hudler - Knight - Jones Galiardi - Horak - Bouma/Jackman (Ern keeps his ass firmly planted in the press box all year)
Blair Jones is better than Reinhart. Let's get that out of the way right now. He's my sub in guy before Max.
Brodie - Wideman Gio - Russell Butler - warm body (I like Cundari, I just don't see him getting the ice time because of Shane O'Brien, and whoever thought I'd say that?)
Ramo Mac
July 16 2013, 11:30AM
Is Baertschi still calder eligible? I also like your hard minutes line, and I think Hartley does too. My lines would look like this:
Glencross / Stajan / Stempniak
Cammalleri / Backlund / Hudler
D. Jones / Monahan or Knight / Baertschi
Galiardi / Horak / Jackman or Bouma
if neither Monahan or Knight can make it, I'd look at having Jones or Galiardi play center, or Hudler (or even Cammalleri) moving down to the third line.
Wideman / Brodie
Gio / Russell
O'Brien / Butler
He's barely Calder eligible. Eligibility is removed on either two seasons of 6+ games, or one season of 25+; he's played 5 and 20, so he barely sqeaks in thanks to his short stint in 11/12.
1) A lot of these line projections are based on the assumption that Hartley's on board with playing the kids in top 6 situations. My guess is that he's on board, based on his relationship with Feaster and some of his comments, but its no guarantee. I just hope his (and to a lesser extent Feaster's) incentives to win to keep their jobs don't mess with the long term goals of the team.
2)Cammy will be moved at the deadline. He's a very useful player and his cap hit will not be a big deal come deadline time. Here's hoping the market for him is strong. If Doug Murray can get two 2nds who knows what Cammy can fetch!
3)I'm actually really excited about this upcoming season. The Flames are going to get hammered but it will be great to cheer for a team with some young talent rather than a team of veterans destined to scrap it out for 7-11.
Hopefully our reward for suffering through a bunch of L's is a Johnny Hockey cameo at the end of the year!
PS. I would like to take back all the terrible things I said to Oilers fans while they were going through their rebuild. Hopefully ours doesn't take as long but I definitely get where they were coming from now.
That being said, I totally understand if Oilers fans want to rub it in that they will be cheering for playoff contender over the next couple years, while we compete for the Tambo Cup. I probably deserve it.
I think Bouma might have something to say about being on the big team. There will be some interesting story lines. There will be injuries, even in training camp & preseason, so we will probably get to see a lot of these guys play a lot of different roles because of it.
Questions that have me perplexed & in some cases something I don't understand Feasters thought process:
1/Goalie- I just didn't understand signing Mcbackup to a 1 way deal when you knew you had Berra & Ramo> Now what if Berra & Ramo play well, that's the goaltending tandem Flames should be starting with. So what then, put Mcbackup on waivers & down to Abbey? Thing is, I think Brossoit & Ortio should be the tandem in Abbey. This situation perplexes me & personally, there was just no need to sign Macbackup so quick.
2/Monohan- I know everyone is itching to see this kid crack the lineup & make a run for Calder. If he's down on the 3rd line, that aint happening. Problem is, if he struggles at any point after the 9 game mark, what do you do? You cant send him to Abbey & bring him back up again, you cant sit him in the press box, I think at best we give him a 9 game sneak preview & send him back to the OHL & dominate for 1 more year of junior & then next year he's here to stay. The only exception to this is if he plays so well, that we cant send him back down. I am trying to be realistic, if I'm right, then suddenly the following works:
Cammi Backlund Sven
Hudler Knight Jones
Stemps Stajan GlenX
Galliardi Horak Jackman/Mcgrattan
Stajan falls to 4th line & Horak starts in Abbey while we give Monohan his 9 game cup of coffee.
Defence is easier. Agree with Kent, Tspoon needs 1 year of Abbey. I would like to see the following
Brodie/ Wideman Gio/ Cundari SOB/Butler
If they stay healthy it should be reasonably functional. Injuries on our D is one scary thought, but 12th-15th is where this group pegs in at but we'll be laying many many building blocks for the future.
I don't want to see Feaster sign anymore UFA's. If we add anything to this group, we need to subtract. We need to make the openings for Gaudreau, Agostini & Arnold & Monohan for next year. The opening will begin at the TDL with moving Stemps/Cammi/Stajan. I think Young Guns 2 is going to be way better than the first movie.
July 16 2013, 12:26PM
Forgot that Dermot Mulroney was in Young Guns.
The good news is for the first time in a long time, we have depth at every position.
I would say 'bodies at every position' rather than 'depth' at every position. Still weak at center and right wing, and likely missing one top four d man.
Not a lineup that is going to scare anyone in our division, but likely to produce another top 10 (likely top 5) draft pick! Just what this team needs.
Given the Murray Edwards Mantra it seems hard to believe that the patience to properly develop prospects by Feaster/'Artley AND keep their jobs will be there this year. Especially if empty seats start cropping up (paid for or not). Did Monahan and Knight show enough at this camp to get more than 9 games before choo choo Abbotsford? Maybe one gets a spot but top 6? Look for lots of back and forth bus rides to Abbotsford regardless for lots of guys. Berra's nick name will be "Back to Suisse".
July 16 2013, 12:46PM
Anyone know if the NHL schedule is being released this week?
July 16 2013, 12:47PM
Right now, I've got things looking like this
1) Cammaleri - Backlund - Hudler
Backlund drives play, and excels at both ends of the ice. Cammaleri and Hudler are the finishers, as they both have pretty decent shots. Although Backlund is a better shutdown guy than Stajan, I'd like to see Backs get some easier minutes. Not easy minutes, just easier than last year.
2) GlenX - Stajan - Stempniak
This line played alot together last year and they were easily CGY's most consistent unit. This line will most likely get the hardest minutes. I expect them to play together when the Flames start to lose games at a more rapid pace, as Hartley will rely on something he's familiar with. Shutdown line for the Flames, unless Stajan and Backs swap roles, which makes line #2 the DE FACTO (?) shutdown line.
3) Baertschi - Knight - D.Jones
From what I've seen at dev camp, Knight is quite good defensively and can win some faceoffs. This line should see some softer minutes as it has 2 fairly young, not to mention unproven, guys on it. This line would not be getting typical 3rd line minutes, as playing Sven 10 minutes a night probably wouldn't be an effective development strategy.
4) Galiardi - Horak - Bouma
Having Blair Jones play a handful of minutes per night on the fourth line might be better for Horak's development, but after last season, I don't think the coaching staff wants Jones on the big club at all.
Extra forwards --> Jackman and Mcgratten
Blair Jones or Max Reinhart would probably be more useful, but management insists the Flames need to get 'tougher'. Well whatever, this season is pretty much a throw away, just don't trade any more picks/prospects for straight-up goons.
Brodie - Wideman
Played alot together last year, etc etc. At this point, Brodie could play with a pair of smelly tube-socks and be alright. Wideman is better than tube socks.
Gio - Russell
Not crazy about having Russell in the top 4, as it clearly illustrates how the Flames have exactly 3 top-4 defenceman. I have trouble seeing Gio bounce back from last season if he's playing tough minutes while simultaneously trying to bail out Russell. However, I think the Flames will want their acquisition to get some playing time at the start. I could see Cundari replace Russell early on in the season, mostly because of his cup o coffee last year.
SOB - Butler
Meh. That's really all I can say
7th dman --> Mark Cundari, I believe he will be brought into the line-up after one of the bottom 3 defenceman prove themselves to warrant a press box seat.
On Monahan: I think a handful of games up here in the big leagues, then back to the OHL would be the best thing. After that, he'll be dominating juniour and then get a spot on Canada's WJC team, where we get to watch him on the national stage. Later in the year, perhaps he could get traded from Ottawa to some contender and have a deep playoff run, maybe even a Memorial Cup appearance.
@Scary Gary
It will be this week, but I'm not sure what day.
I think Sven gets top 6 minutes this year and Knight starts on the 3rd line and goes from there.
There are some rumors that a defenseman from Calgary is being shopped but I am not exactly sure who and how credible those rumors are.
Cammy, Stemp and Stajan are as good as gone at the trade deadline. It should be an interesting year :). Im excited for this phase of Flames hockey. I like the era of hope/ no Iggy and Kipper.
We need nicknames for Karri Rambo and Yogi Berra?
July 16 2013, 01:44PM
I like those lines Chillgoose, except think Galliardi would be better utilized top 9.
It is almost like you can draw staws at the begining of each game to see where you are playing .
I think Knight goes to Abby. I think Monahan makes the team over him. And I think Horak becomes a winger, while Jackman gets traded or waived. Therefore: • Glencross-Cammy-Hudler • Baertschi-Backlund-Jones • Horak/Galliardi-Monahan/Stajan-Stempniak • Galliardi/Horak-Stajan/Knight-McGrattan/Jackman/Hanowski/Blair Jones/Bouma
If you send Monahan back to the OHL (not a bad idea), Stajan gets 3rd line minutes over Knight. The challenge is a lot of these young guys shoot from the left-side, so they'd have to adjust. Hanowski as regular on the 4th line, RW, would work for me, with the 4th line looking like this: Galliardi/Horak-Stajan/Knight-Hanowksi (Bouma?) Also note - Blair Jones comes from the right-side, but I think Hanowski has more to offer. Unless Bouma can learn to play on the right-side.... McGrattan sits in the box, perhaps with Jackman. Reinhart and Knight learn more in Abby. As for the defence, what you posted in the original article is frightening - Cundari in the #4 slot! Shows how thin we are, on the backend. Which is why I wouldn't be surprised to either see Cammy moved for a d-man. Maybe.
Forgot that Dermot Mulroney was in Young Guns.
I forgot about Dermot Mulroney. Period.
I hope Monahan goes back to the O. I really dislike the agreement the CHL and the AHL have with the NHL. I would love to see 19 year olds in the AHL rather than having to send kids with CHL rights back to junior where they supposedly can't learn anything more.
Saying that, Monahan has something to play for going back to Ottawa. He can put those kids on his back and lead them into the post-season.
I noticed no one has Grabovsky as our number 1 centre. I guess bad-mouthing your old boss is a no-no in the sporting world as it is in the real world. Ouch.
Knight will get a good long look to start the season and if he falters then he gets sent down. Same with Monahan.
Baertshi Baclund Cammalleri
Backs has proven himself as our best center and has great chemistry with Baertshi. Cammalleri rounds out the line nicrley and it is past due that Backs has some good linemates... Baert too...
Glencross Stajan Stempniak
Stajan and Stemper both need to play in the top 6 to increase their trade value... a good shutdown line or a line that could produce 2nd line numbers
Hudler Monahan Jones
Hudler should be a good compliment to Monahan and this assignment will be good for Monahan in his rookie year. Jones wlshould be a functional 3rd liner and this line could play 2bd line minutes some nights.
Galiardi (Horak/Knight) Jackman/Bouma
Mcgratton =extra
Notes: Galiardi gets his minutes on the pk and moves up in case of injury. 4th center is whovever wins it... Blair Jones is still in the mix.
Brodie Wideman
Familiar... work well together
Gio Russell
Give Russell a shot at top 4
Butler Breen
Breen makes it but Butler loses his job to Cundari
Macbackup loses his job to the younger guy
July 16 2013, 07:17PM
With you on the first two lines exactly, those veterans need ice time to pump their trade value.
I see no reason to keep Monahan as a third line centre. Send him back to junior to captain the WJ team and play 25 minutes a night in the OHL and get some offensive confidence. Keep him next year if he is top 2 lines.
Horak is the third line centre for me, for now. He meshed well with Hudler and I think I want Galiardi on that line. The speed will catch people unaware.
I am hoping Bouma plays well enough to be a factor. With him, Jackman and D Jones you have some pretty heavy wing options for line 4. I think you have Blair Jones as that centre with Reinhart as your alternate. Knight goes down to the AHL for now and along with Granlund we see if we can develop a centre to bring up later if one of the top 2 lines are missing a guy.
I disagree with Breen making it. I think you see SOB and Butler as pair 3, with Smith and Cundari around to fill in. The X factor here is Billins - 37 points in his first pro season in the AHL, 14 points in 24 playoff games, this guy might make it based on pp time alone.
It would not surprise me to see the team start the season with 3 goalies, and wait to see if someone gets in trouble and offer them Joey Mac. I have to believe both Ramo and Berra will be better than Joey who is a 33 yr old below average backup.
If the ownership allows for the full rebuild and lets Jay trade veterans there are 4 or 5 forward positions up for grabs come the end of February/early March with Knight, Reinhart, Granlund, Hanowski, Agostino, Arnold and maybe Gaudreau competing for them at the end of the year.
After trade deadline:
Ship out: Cammalleri, Stempniak, Stajan, Butler, Jackman and Smith (if possible).
A recipe for disaster. This is exactly the identical strategy the Pilers have used. Results are obvious both in the standings and more importantly in player development.
I suggest retaining/ upgrading veteran talent selectively with a view to rebuild with the young guys.
Oilers.....typo oops!
July 16 2013, 10:19PM
Is The Feasting on Feaster Temporarily Over For Flames Fans?
So all of a sudden we are ranked as being in the top 10 in terms of prospects. Besides the O'Reilly and Iginla situations, the Jaybird has restocked the team to where Flames fans can be excited about the future. That's an interesting omission given the past party line of this site. I have even been ready some grudging admiration for the man between the lines.
I'm still not convinced we tank next year. If K retires there is another 5.8 in cap space or about $14 million. What if two impact players were brought in by trade? Maybe the team looks very different than now. All along K has said the marching orders are to make the playoffs next year.
There's still nearly 2 1/2 months till the season starts-- a lot can hopefully happen.
Go Flames Go!
We need nicknames for Karri Rambo and Yogi Berra?
I think you just nailed them! I can see the Rambo posters with Karri's head (and mask) inserted already - anyone got a software to do it and post it somewhere we can view it?
July 17 2013, 02:17AM
Baertschi - Backlund - Hudler Cammilleri - Stajan - Horak Glencross - Knight - Stempniak Bouma - Galiardi - Jones
Giordano - Wideman Brodie - Russell Butler - O'Brien
Ramo (Karmo) MacDonald
Rambo and Yogi
Agree that Monahan may not be on the team all year but I think you see him center the 3rd line for the first 9 games and if the 67s are not a factor he will be up on the team in April likely after we have moved out the vets.
Horak on the 3rd would be interesting and well deserved... not sure what the Flames do with him... he is good enough to be on the big club but I would rather see him play on the first line in the A than on the 4th line.
The D is kind of hard to predict as there are spots up for grabs. The Russell move is kind of puzzling.... gave up a pick for him but only signed to a one year deal. Is he part of the future? Was the move speculative?...I have a hard time understanding this move unless the Flames see him as a potential top 4... giving up a pick doesnt make sense as depth move. I think by the end of the year at least one will be moved out and Breen and Cundari will be regulars.
A recipe for disaster. This is exactly the identical strategy the Pilers have used. Results are obvious both in the standings and more importantly in player development.
I suggest retaining/ upgrading veteran talent selectively with a view to rebuild with the young guys.
True, but these players are all UFAs and probably wont resign, at least not all.
It would be bad asset management to keep players around that will walk at seasons end anyway.
Plus we still have Glen, Hudler, Galiardi, Jones and Backlund who can insulate the youth after the other vets are traded at the deadline..
I would say 'bodies at every position' rather than 'depth' at every position. Still weak at center and right wing, and likely missing one top four d man.
Not a lineup that is going to scare anyone in our division, but likely to produce another top 10 (likely top 5) draft pick! Just what this team needs.
hopefully 2 first overall picks back to back, then the first of many cups
i think Knight stays and monohan goes back down. Knight can win face offs, right?
July 21 2013, 06:49PM
I've just joined the conversation but in a rebuild year it would make sense to stop talking about 1st lines second lines etc. If the Flames want to develop players this year roll 4 lines; protect no one and see what people can do. Key to this year is showcase the UFA's(so we can trade them) and develop the kids. Create a kids unit for PP, and a vet unit as well. Roll the following: Bach, Sven and Bouma; Stajan, Stemp, and Cammi; Knight/Monahan,Hudler,GlenX, Rhino, TJ, and Jones. (Jacckman and Mcrattan play only when needed) On D play Wied/TJ, Gio/Cundari, OB/Russle. Goalies: Ramo, Berri to start. I don't care about wins but I care about compete and development.


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FOXBORO, Mass. – Take it from Archie Manning, who says Peyton and Tom Brady should feel very fortunate to have participated in one of the NFL's best rivalries over the years.
Archie, the former New Orleans Saints quarterback with the 35-101-3 career record, never experienced anything like the games Brady's New England Patriots have had against Peyton's Indianapolis Colts and, this coming Sunday, the Denver Broncos.
"We weren't good enough to have rivals," a laughing Archie told USA TODAY Sportsthis week. "Right now, they're probably both too focused and have too much to do to get ready to play a ballgame, but one day both of them will look back on this and be proud of it. Just the fact they played in an era where they both had a lot of success in games that meant something, drew a lot of attention, the networks pushed it and people wrote about it.
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"Peyton's been a big-time competitor. He wants to win, every throw he wants to be perfect, he wants to have the perfect play," Pats defensive lineman Vince Wilfork said. "It's special to have someone on the team like that. We have one in Tom. … This week, we get the chance to see two quarterbacks at that level that love to compete and hate to lose.
"It's going to be a pretty good show."
The show began in 2001 with Brady, an overlooked former sixth-round pick making his first career start in place of the injured Drew Bledsoe, walking up to Manning during warm-ups before a 44-13 Patriots victory.
"I went over there and he said, 'Hey, I'm Peyton Manning,'" Brady recalled this week. "I was like 'Of course. I know that.'"
Manning wasn't in a reflective mood this week and gave Denver-area reporters what he admitted was a "boring" answer when he played the "team game" card.
But Archie knows Peyton surely understands how special this one is.
"I always tell my kids you live to play in big games," Archie said. "The Bronco-Patriot rivalry has been good anyway. But there was the Colts and Patriots and now this. It's good for football."
And bad for defenses.
Manning has 24 touchdowns against Brady-led teams, with a total of 15 in their last six meetings. Meanwhile, Brady's 68.8% completion percentage against the Colts is his highest rate against any of the 11 opponents he's faced five or more times.
"I'm not saying that I'm real excited about having to face him again," Patriots coach Bill Belichick said of Manning.
Forget the new uniform and the questions about arm strength, the Pats say. To them, it's the same old Manning running the same old effective plays.
"It's a lot of stuff he's accustomed to, a lot of stuff that made him Peyton Manning," Wilfork said. "It's very successful and won him a Super Bowl running it. When you have a guy like that, you have to be able to change up (the offense), and Denver's done a real good job of letting him come in and do what he does best, letting him run things the way he knows how to run it.
"Not saying they totally threw away their game plan or what they did have. But you have to respect a guy at that level, and they have."
Considering Manning's 4-8 record against Brady, including two postseason losses, he surely respects Belichick's Patriots.
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America celebrates this week on July 4. The beginning of freedom in a budding nation, one nation under God. Our nation isn't old as far as countries go. We don't have history that goes back thousands of years, but we do have a tradition of freedom. Our nation started out with the idea that we wouldn't interfere too much with the rest of the world. We would leave them alone and hope that they left us alone to worship as we wished and develop our nation as we saw fit. This worked for quite awhile. Things change though and with technology, transportation and communication the way it is.......it's hard to remain as an ostrich with his head in the sand and not get involved in the things of the world.
It's hard to sit back and watch people being abused in various parts of the world and not want to do something about it. Our nation has been at the forefront in disaster relief and aid to foreign countries. There are those who say we shouldn't send massive amounts of money to other countries when we have people in need here in our own country. If we don't help these people, then who will? Who will take notice when children are dying from hunger and disease. I think it is our responsibility as the greatest country on the earth to give back some of what we have learned over the years. To help the people of Iraq to establish a democracy and to teach the people to care for and govern themselves without tyranny is a very noble undertaking.
Our country has made some mistakes since September 11. We have been suspicious of those with backgrounds similar to those who committed the terrorist attacks
against our country. It is a hard, tough world that we live in these days. You can never be sure who might hold a bomb or a gun. We have to live our lives and continue on with what we need to do. We cannot live in fear, to live in fear is to live without freedom. I spent some time in downtown Salt Lake last week at the Miss Utah pageant. I was asked for food and money from those people on the streets. I never know how to react to something like that. I usually always give them whatever I have in my pocket at the time. I usually don't carry cash, I have five sons and cash is not something I'm familar with. You can buy just about anything you need though with a check. It's sad that we have homeless and hungry people in our country. I don't think the government should take care of us. We should provide for our own needs, but we need to have a job and skills to do so. One of my sons returned from a cruise to Mexico one time, practically penniless and in debt to his boss for $200 more because he had given all of his money to those begging children on the streets. Maybe he didn't save the whole economy of Mexico, but hopefully he made a difference in the life of a child or two, and not only that I chewed Chicklets gum for a month.
I applaud the efforts of the United States in trying to make a difference in the world. If we just give up and shrug our shoulders and close our wallets and our hearts where will we be? Are we not our brothers keeper? America doesn't have all of the answers, but we do have some and we have the talent and the means to make a difference in the world. I am proud to be an American. Happy Birthday America. Bring on the birthday cake.


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Mercanti Fiorentini Floater Loafer
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Item # 257194
Mercanti Fiorentini brings us authentic craftsmanship and quality with this Brazilian hand stitched driving moccasin. The Floater is soft and rich and the nappa leather linings and cushioned leather insole give this shoe the comfort feel your foot deserves with a flavor for any occasion.
- Textured leather upper
- Moccasin styling with decorative strap
- Square moc toe
- Nappa leather lining
- Breathable cushioned leather insole
- Flexible split rubber sole
- Made in Brazil
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By: Dude
Location: Delaware
January 18, 2013
Nice leather
"Nice quality leather shoes for the price.Comfortable, and look more high end than the price tag."
By: NKUA
Location: Bonita Springs
December 22, 2012
Very comfortable
"Very comfortable shoes and great quality"
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