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Extend the Kids? Maybe Later
Jonathan Willis
August 08 2012 11:47AM
With the news of Jeff Skinner's contract extension (covered nicely here by Robin Brownlee), the focus of Oilers Nation has turned toward offering contract extensions to Jordan Eberle and Taylor Hall. Should the team extend both of those players this summer, or wait a little longer before getting serious about the possibility?
My vote: there's no harm in a little patience.
Naturally, the desire to get both players under contract now is understandable. The whole point of the Oilers ugly sojourn through the NHL basement has been to collect high-end talent, and letting that high-end talent leave town before it has even really begun paying dividends would ruin the whole thing. It makes a lot of sense that many Oilers fans would like to see both players locked up, and the sooner the better.
There's a new collective bargaining agreement on the horizon, one all but guaranteed to drive down the NHL's salary cap. The last time around, the NHLPA agreed to a roll-back of player salaries, meaning that guys signed before the new deal were affordable. This time around, it seems likely that the union will accept a lower salary cap, but they have been adamant that a salary roll-back is not on the table. Donald Fehr has called the idea of a rollback a "non-starter" and when asked back in May about the possibility responded, "Do you want me out of this job?"
It stood out because Fehr's public comments have largely been conciliatory.
A new deal won't necessarily include a salary rollback. There are a number of ways around it – a limited amnesty clause, recalculating the cap hit on contracts signed before the new deal (while still paying the players full money), a cap that drops gradually over time rather than immediately following, etc. The point is that a rollback is not a certainty, and if it doesn't come these deals signed under the old agreement are not going to be anywhere near as favourable financially as deals inked under whatever new deal is eventually hammered out.
There are other considerations. Jordan Eberle is coming off a fantastic season – a season that many (including myself) argue he probably won't repeat. Even people more bullish on Eberle – Robin Brownlee and David Staples – expect him to drop below the 70 point mark next season. Of course, it doesn't matter what anyone outside of the Oilers' front office thinks, but if the Oilers peg Eberle's chances of producing the same amount of points or fewer at greater than 50%, they could reason that the odds of having better leverage in contract discussions will be better in January or next summer than they are now.
There's also the question of Taylor Hall's off-season surgery. The Oilers hope is that Hall will be ready to go for the start of 2012-13, but it's not clear that's going to happen. Even if it does, he's going to be entering into the season recovering from a major injury. The calculations here are much the same as they are in the case of Eberle: do the Oilers believe they have more leverage in negotiations now, or will they have more come January?
The new CBA is the biggest issue in deciding on the timing of new contracts, but it's far from the only one. In the Oilers' shoes, I think it makes sense to touch base with the agents for both players but try to hold off until midway through next season before really getting serious about finalizing a deal.
Wait until next summer and sign Hall, RNH and Ebs in one swoop.
August 08 2012, 12:09PM
If the CBA weren't expiring this fall, I'd think it would be a hands-down yes to extending them now. I think players typically leave $ on the table when they sign early (think maybe John Tavares would have got more than $5.5Mx6 if he waited til this summer? Or that Braydon Coburn would have got more if he went to UFA rather than re-up mid season?)
Of course, the new CBA is the wildcard here, and no one knows exactly what the cards hold here. By signing them now, do you end up paying for UFA yrs that end up actually becoming RFA yrs (if owners get their way & bump the age for UFA back)? Not sure what the smart play is here.
It's not like we're talking about 2 Horcoffs here. Get them done and make them stay in Blue and Copper for the rest of their careers!!
I haven't followed the exact content of the initial proposals, but I know there had been some discussion of modifying the age at which players become eligible for unrestricted free agency. That adds a significant degree of uncertainty to the negotiations. Right now when discussing the term of an extension, you're not really sure whether the contract you sign will leave you with RFA years, or if you're taking a player right to unrestricted free agency (never a good thing). I would also assume knowing whether you're buying UFA years from a player would have to have some effect on the price point.
Just another factor that I think suggests waiting is the best approach
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August 08 2012, 01:22PM
Both signing them now and wating until next year present risks.
The risk of signing now is that they get overpaid by a couple 100k to maybe a million dollars. (assuming we are working around a framework of Skinners deal)
The risk of waiting is that you potentially don't get a deal done and end up losing them for some crappy draft picks.
.... I know which risk I'd rather take.
August 08 2012, 01:32PM
The flip side about waiting until next year is obviously an offer sheet from other teams. Putting that aside, and assuming both Hall and Eberle have regressive seasons, this may put the Oilers in a stronger negotiating point. However, an extended contract coming off a "less than expected" season would probably only be for 1 or 2 years.
I don't see Hall or Eberle's agents endorsing signing 5+ year extensions based off the worst possible numbers you could expect to see from these kids.
Skinner's contract is going to be the starting point for Hall and Ebs (Maybe Tavares will be the floor, but the difference is only like 250k)
Waiting until next year puts the contracts at 6 million or 8% of the maximum cap payroll.
The actual dollars doesn't really matter. It's all about what percentage of the cap these players take.
Remember when you play with fire you can get burnt . Expect offer sheets if you wait another year as these two maybe the biggest targets . Why not a 7 year $49 million contract for each of them with movement clause at Oilers discression . Start at 5mil & end at 8mil . That keeps them here for 8 years. With Mr Katz's approved plan of 5+ years before seeing Stanley back here we are covered.
@Jonathan Willis
While your points make sense on the surface, I think, in this instance, patience can do harm. Sure it's easy to say that Eberle probably won't have a repeat of last year. But it's also a gamble to assume you know the trajectory of Eberle's production.
You seem to think that the salary cap going down is almost a guarantee, and your points seem to support it. But why did Carolina sign Semin for 7 mil and Skinner for 5.7? Are they completely in the dark as to how the CBA negotiations are going?
If history has taught us anything, it's that the price for players like Eberle and Hall almost always goes up for the first 12 years of their career. The more ST waits, the more the price for Eberle and Hall will increase.
Sure you could gamble on the Cap decreasing. You could gamble on Hall and Eberle having worse seasons than last year as well.
OR, you could use the info you have and make the offer based on facts, instead of just waiting to see how it plays out.
Eberle is at .81 ppg and hall is at .75 ppg. ... I think. They both already have some injury history and neither one has helped the team make any sort of real push for the playoffs.
If they want to win, then throw the 5.5-6 mil per year at them now, avoid any risk of an offer sheet, and be happy that you made the decision based on what you know, not on what you think may happen.
If hall and Eberle have great seasons next year then you've made hte right choice. If they both regress slightly, then you haven't really overpaid at 5.5 million.. yet.
Just do it.
I think the "offer sheet" process may be affected by the new CBA as well. Small market/revenue teams will need some kind of protection from the super rich owners willing to use their financial powers.
"Eberle is at .81 ppg and hall is at .75 ppg. ... I think. They both already have some injury history and neither one has helped the team make any sort of real push for the playoffs."
I really hate this talk of "injury history" when talking about such young players. If I was to join in then I'd say Carolina may have made a mistake with the known injury history of Skinner.
I'm convinced. They should wait. I like the idea of waiting and then trying to also sign Nuge to a long-term deal.
I'm against delaying negotiations with Hall and Ebs for one reason: uncertainty creates opportunity, and if used right, could lock down two pieces of this team for the next 5 to 10 years.
August 08 2012, 03:57PM
The offer sheet risk is easy to mitigate: sign them any time between January and June. Don't let them get to July without a contract.
Alot can change between then and now.
(including a crazy, small sample size hot streak)
If you have the opportunity to sign them now (assuming they actaully do) doesn't mean you'll still have the opportunity 8 months from now.
I've read quite a bit from the stats-guys and their reasoning for Eberle's production dropping off. It does make some sense BUT I know that when see Eberle have time to get a shot on net, I'm surprised if he doesn't score, or at least make the goalie move to make a good save. So many shots nowadays just hit the goalie. Eberle has some of these, but not very many. .
He reminds me of a Mike Bossy or Brett Hull. Not so much in shot velocity. More like where he shoots the puck. I tend to agree with Brownlee that Ebs may get the best offensive humbers of the 3.
Sign him now.
August 08 2012, 05:24PM
If they were to sign them now would the new contract kick in right away or does it start once their ELC is up?
August 08 2012, 07:10PM
If they were to sign them now would the new contract kick in right away or does it start once their ELC is up?
The ELC has to terminate. Teams can extend their players with 1 year or less remaining in the existing contract, meaning Tavares' deal doesn't begin until the upcoming season while Skinner's new contract doesn't start until the '13-'14 Season.
Another reason to wait - what if the player has a major injury or concussion problems this year?
August 08 2012, 08:03PM
It's true; it's not a no-risk proposition that I'm making. I think, on balance, the best way to balance the various risks is to table signing the players for now and re-visit the idea after the new CBA comes out.
But I definitely understand why some would see signing those players now as the best approach.
Ya that's fair we obviously can't make a deffinitive call because of the changing parameters (CBA + next years production)
I guess my question is, how much do we really expect to save by waiting until next year (assuming he could be re-uped for say 6 million right now)?
Even the most pessimistic don't see Eberle dropping lower then 50 points, 50 - 55 point RFA's have been signing for 4+ million, and none of them have a 76 point season on the resume to point to in negotiations like Ebs does.
Realistically, if he goes say 24 goals, 58 points next year, he's still getting between 4.5 and 5 million per.... If he has a really poor year he'd probably only go short term like Duchene so he could redeem himself.... Then who knows what his price would be.
On top of that, I'd say it's just as likely that Hall goes 40G 85P next year as it is that Ebs drops under 60 points... At that level I can see Hall looking for 7+ per.
First line players aren't cheap, the league now has 50+ forwards with a cap hit above 5 million... If we've got a chance to lock up 2 first liners in their early 20's for 12 million id take my chances and do it rather then risk it for MAYBE a 1.5 million savings, that could easily be offset by Halls increased salary demands after a big year.
Seems like alot of risk to me, to potentially save 1 - 1.5 million on the cap.
August 08 2012, 09:09PM
@John Chambers
Thanks John, I know cableguys friend Mr. Google would have told me the answer but at the time I thought of the question I didn't have the time to look it up eh. I knew someone on here could answer it for me :)
August 09 2012, 01:44PM
I think there are some important questions:
1) What are the most likely changes under the new CBA? Jon is suggesting that a rollback is unlikely but that a salary cap decrease is likely. I can't argue one way or another but it's important to consider.
2) After the last CBA change, what were contracts like? Based entirely on my memory, the owners went one whole summer (the very first) spending responsibly and then prices went right back up. IE Pronger got 5 X 6.25 one summer but Chara was getting near cap maximum the next. These were different circumstances but if there was a likelihood of reduced prices immediately following the CBA negotiation I'd definitely suggest waiting.
3) Do you think Hall/Eberle's boxcars will go up or down? Like it or not, context doesn't seem to play into salary #'s for these types of players. My opinion is that Hall will score more than last year and Eberle less. Does this mean a better deal waiting or not? Maybe there is safety in assuring 100% recovery from shoulder surgery.
Anyhow, these are the things I'm thinking about. I'd be curious to see what your impressions are Jon, or what anybody has to say/add.


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8 High St., Boston. 617-426-1234. radiusrestaurant.com. $19. Next
8. b.good
When the owners of b.good ("real food fast") restaurant opened the first of their six Boston-area places in 2004, they started with a simple idea: Make fast-food favorites they could feel good about eating. So, how's the food? Really good ... You can choose one of four burgers—beef, turkey, veggie, or a grilled chicken breast—then mix and match toppings. — Joan Wilder (Read the full Globe review)
131 Dartmouth St., Boston. 617-424-5252. Three other locations in Boston, plus Burlington, Cambridge, Dedham, and Hingham. bgood.com. $5.99-$6.29 (additional charge for extra toppings) Next
7. Eagle's Deli
This Cleveland Circle eatery is a hangout for Boston College students with big appetites. Very big appetites. One student from a local culinary school says he usually orders the King Kong burger (1/2 pound of meat, two slices of cheese, lettuce, tomato, mayo, and pickles). If that's not enough for you, there's the Godzilla burger—1 pound of meat, four slices of cheese, lettuce, tomato, mayo and a half pound of fries. "If you go away hungry," he says, "it's your own fault." — Globe Staff (Read the full Globe article)
1918 Beacon St., Brighton. 617-731-3232. eaglesdeli.com. $5.59 and $9.99. Next
6. Wild Willy's Burgers
It takes 10 minutes for the burgers to be served because they are big and thick, but the kitchen is open and you can watch the grill guy flipping the patties. Burgers come out juicy with grill marks, topped with real cheddar that becomes soft and sticky. Skin-on "country fair" fries are crisp and irresistible. And you do get your fill of rodeo here. — Jonathan Levitt (Read the full Globe article)
46 Arsenal St., Watertown. 617-926-9700. wildwillysburgers.com. $6.75. Next
5. Back Bay Social Club
A 10-ounce patty made from dry-aged prime rib, short rib, flank, and skirt, topped with "smothered'' onions and cheddar. A price tag of $22 for a burger? Yeah, it's crazy. But as chef Timothy Raines says, "It eats like a steak.'' Maybe you could just think of it as one. — Devra First (Read the full Globe article)
867 Boylston St., Boston. 617-247-3200. backbaysocialclub.com. $22. Next
4. Mr. Bartley's Burger Cottage
When people talk about burgers in Boston, Mr. Bartley's in Harvard Square, established in 1960, always comes up ... The thick, juicy 7-ounce rounded burger doesn't seem like it's too big. Co-owner Bill Bartley prefers a round patty to a flat patty. He also says that beef chuck makes the best grind ... Bartley's is cash only. The sign by the register says "real food, real money." We agree. — Jonathan Levitt (Read the full Globe article)
1246 Massachusetts Ave., Cambridge. 617-354-6559. mrbartley.com. $9.75-$13.10. Next
3. R.F. O'Sullivan & Son
Like your burgers super-sized? With dozens of different burgers on the menu—from the kickin' Jalapeno Burger to the flavor-packed Black & Blue—O'Sullivan's sandwiches aren't exactly "fast food." The half-pound patties are so large (they're almost round when they hit the grill) that they require patience as they cook. So belly up to the bar in the middle or grab one of the tables circling the bar as you wait. As an added bonus, large, hand-cut fries arrive with your hamburger. — Jesse Nunes
282 Beacon St., Somerville. 617-492-7773. rf-osullivan.com. $8.25-$9.25. Next
2. Five Guys Burgers and Fries
Five Guys' signature product will never replace a real hamburger, but as a quick, flat, superheated slab of chopped meat it's not bad. — Louise Kennedy (Read the full Globe review)
Walpole Mall, 104 Providence Highway, East Walpole. 508-660-9850. Other locations in Chelsea, Medford, Saugus, Dedham, Stoneham, Burlington, Swampscott, Randolph, Natick, Canton, Walpole, Framingham, Hanover, Foxborough. fiveguys.com. Starting at $4.06 for a single patty or $5.77 for a double patty.
The motto here is "Above all burgers," as in the German word "uber." But in its spot at Boston University, you could also spell it U Burger ... You won't be disappointed. These are great burgers and incredible fries at unbeatable prices. Uburger is onto something obvious but hardly done: take the junk out of fast food.— Sheryl Julian (Read the full Globe review)
636 Beacon St., Boston, 617-536-0448; 1022 Commonwealth Ave., Boston, 617-487-4855; 140 Tremont St., Boston, 857-239-8080; 360 Huntington Ave., Boston, 617-373-3839; 16 North St., Boston, 857-277-0505. uburgerboston.com. $4.50-$6.50. Next
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National Shrine of Our Lady of the Snows
The Shrine has 200 beautifully landscaped acres of gardens and devotional areas, including the Outdoor Amphitheatre, Shrine Church, Lourdes Grotto, Stations of the Cross, Millennium Spire, the Visitors Center with a restaurant and gift shop, and the Shrine Hotel.
Louis Latzer, the founder of the Pet Milk Company, built this homestead for his wife and family in 1901. The home had many modern features of the day, including running water pumped by hand to a holding tank in the attic, a manufactured gas light system, speaking tubes between many of the rooms and one of the first telephones in the community.
Dr. Poos Home - Heritage House Museum
Built in 1888, this home was occupied by Dr. Robert Poos, a local practitioner and druggist. Dr. Poos was also the staff physician at the Springs Hotel and Bath House, later known as the Okawville Original Springs Hotel.
Patchwork Corner Crafts has a wide variety of quilting and craft supplies.
General Dean Suspension Bridge
Located just outside the city of Carlyle, this historic 130-year-old bridge is one of the oldest suspension bridges in the area. The original bridge served as a crossing over the Kaskaskia River.
Join the group at this small intimate club featuring performers from St. Louis and the local area.
The beautiful house is an example of an 1830s hotel. Charles Dickens once visited there in 1842 while researching a book he wrote on prairies in America.
The Scrapbook Factory offers all the supplies you need to create the scrapbook of your dreams.
Civil War Monument at the Veterans' Memorial
This monument honors generations of soliders who sacrificed their lives for their country.
The Thomas Kinkade Gallery of Belleville is full of beautiful works by Thomas Kinkade.
Farm implements, tools, tractors, and other equipment are featured that date back 100 years. The museum is open for special events including the Outhouse Festival in the fall.
The log house gives a glimpse into local life in the 1800s. While at the park, visit the refurbished caboose and passenger train.
Open from April to October, this theatre shows first-run movies, and is one of only 200 drive-inns left in the United States.
Clinton County Historical Museum
This building was the former home of Judge Sidney Breese, who came to Illinois from New York. He studied law here and became Assistant Secretary of the State of Illinois.
Centralia Area Historical Museum
Artifacts, pictures of coal mining, railroading, business, farming in and around Centralia. A work in progress by the Centralia Area Historical Society to preserve the past of Marion County.
Groups regularly perform at the "Black Box" Main Stage theatre.
Ten Talents Gallery features handmade, individual, and unique items by Illinois artists. We offer such items as jewelry, watercolors, ceramics, wood carvings, and much more.
The historic theatre features first-run movies, organ concerts, puppet shows, and other special events. Tours are available by appointment.
Visitors are invited to walk through this home, considered to be the oldest Greek Revival-style home in Illinois.
The Labor & Industry Museum is the only public institution devoted to the history of the labor and industry of Belleville and southwestern Illinois. The centerpiece is Jumbo, a 19th-century steam engine along with coal mining, carpentry, and stove-making exhibits.
Centralia Historical Society Museum
Centerpieces of the collection are newspapers and memorabilia from the coal mining days with tributes to railroad history.
There is a large collection of machinery and primitives dating back to the 1800s.
CITY:New Athens
Marissa Academy Museum and Coal Miners Monument
Memorabilia celebrating the city's growth from a coal mining town to the present makes this an interesting stop.
Hard Road Theatre Productions is a non-profit community theater organization committed to providing the Highland area with high-quality, affordable, live theater productions.
Distinguished speakers, concerts, and drama are all part of the playbill at The Hett, McKendree College's showcase Center for the Arts.
Calico Moon features primitives, dry goods, rug hooking, primitive stitch, supplies, and classes.
Marissa Academy Museum & Coal Miners Monument
Memorabilia celebrating the city's growth from a coal-mining town to the present makes this a fascinating touchstone of local history.
Centralia Illinois Downtown Theatre
This former vaudeville and movie theatre has been restored to its former glory.
The Lemming Armada Theatre Co.
Performances throughout the year include music, drama, and comedy.
The Showcase performs at the historic Avon Theatre. Call for a schedule of plays.
The museum, located in the original college building on the campus of historic Greenville College, features hundreds of sculptural pieces by Richard Bock, best known for his work with famed architect Frank Lloyd Wright.
The museum focuses on the businesses that helped the city grow, particularly milling.
This Renaissance Gothic architectural masterpiece has a 222 ft. tall bell tower. Tours avalaible.
Shows are performed at the Turkey Hill Grange, Progressive Grange, and The New Athens Senior Center.
CITY:New Athens
The Schmidt Art Center and Gallery
Over 350 permanent works, including a beautifully landscaped and sculptured garden, are on display.
St. Clair County Historical Society Museum
This Victorian adaptation of a Greek Revival home was built in the early 1800s. In addition to period furniture and vintage clothing, artifacts, and quilts, the museum contains an extensive research library and gift shop.
Washington County Historical Museum
Built in 1871 as a private residence, this building now holds hundreds of artifacts from the country including a display of period wedding dresses.
Bring your children and show them a glimpse into education before the 20th century. Located on the Jr. High grounds, this schoolhouse was restored by the Bond County Retired Teachers Association.
This talented troupe can be found at a variety of venues from dinner theater at Fischer's Restaurant to stage shows at Southwestern Illinois College.
Three Sisters Crafts & Gifts offers handmade crafts, beads, jewelry-making supplies, home decor, scrapbook and quilting supplies, and much more.
One of the smallest country chapels in the world was built in Nashville in the late 1980s. Thousands of travelers from all over the globe have stopped to visit this miniature chapel.
CITY:New Athens
Belleville Philharmonic Society
The nation's second oldest continuously performing symphony orchestra (1867-2005) gives concerts throughout the year.
Bond County One Room School Museum
This museum is a living monument to the more than 72 one-story schools throughout the nation that served to educate children and host community gatherings.
The Music Theatre Company explores the musical in the interest of expanding the canon of musical theatre through fully-staged productions, commissions of new works and musical experiments.
The 60-seat facility is complete with a restored 1928 Barton 12-rank theatre pipe organ. It was originally built to perform popular music and to accompany the silent movies of the 1920s. Group tours available.
Originally built as a private residence in the 1870s, the house now holds an extensive collection of Civil War memorabilia, World War I bond posters, Native American artifacts, domestic arts, and items from local manufacturers.
The Looking Glass Playhouse was started in 1972 by a small group of volunteers to raise money for McKendree College by directing and producing a musical play. The play was a success and they have been putting on performances ever since. Drama, musicals, and comedy performances are on the bill.
Our Common Ground is a nonprofit organization dedicated to growing local art by organizing mixed media shows in rural communities.
The marquee dates back to the 1920s, but the audio-visual equipment is state-of-the-art. Three screens show first run movies on the ground floor, with a coffee shop and bistro upstairs.
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Why do they do this you ask. Well maybe its so they don't go from May to July thereby confusing all future pervs who are collecting ancient porno mags. Maybe its so the hillbillys won't send in letter after letter stating they never recieved their June issue and that they want a refund. It doesn't matter really, just read the shiny new issue and ogle the breasts!
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I hate Golden Week! They always damage my weekly Naruto fix :'[
Hes obviously a subscriber... For many years now.. probably since he was 18.. hell, he probably stole his dad's magazine starting at 13 til he could buy his own.
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Music is just about everywhere on TV these days - except in most shows' opening credits. The glory days of the TV title song may be long gone, but a few new series are keeping the theme alive.
Most notably, ABC's comedy Malibu Country boasts a traditional opening tune. When it came time to put the show's title credits together, it made perfect sense to ask star Reba McEntire to choose the song. McEntire - who also performed the opening theme to her last sitcom, Reba ("I'm a Survivor") - came back with "Goodbye Looks Good on Me," written by Kellys Collins, Juliana Cole and Jeff Smith.
Here are the titles and talent behind some of this fall's new TV opening themes.
Ben and Kate (Fox)
The Song: "Get Up Again"
The Artist: Michael Andrews, whose credits include the music for Donnie Darko, Freaks and Geeks and Bridesmaids. He also composed the main title to Fox's New Girl with star Zooey Deschanel.
The Mindy Project (Fox)
The Song: "Mindy"
The Artist: Jesse Novak, a composer whose brother is B.J. Novak, the former star and executive producer of The Office.
Guys With Kids (NBC)
The Song: "Walk When You Can Run"
The Artist: Jimmy Fallon, the comedy's executive producer, performs the song, which was written by Amy Miles and Michael Robertson.
Nashville (ABC)
The Song: Nashville theme
The Artist: T Bone Burnett and Keefus Green. Burnett, who's married to Nashville creator Callie Khouri, is an Oscar-winning musician (Crazy Heart); he and Green have collaborated on several projects. Green earned an Emmy nomination for composing Saving Grace.
Partners (CBS; now canceled)
The Song: "Top of the World"
The Artist: Imagine Dragons, a Las Vegas-based alternative rock group.
Inbetweeners (MTV; now canceled)
The Song: "This Too Shall Pass"
The Artist: Alternative rockers and YouTube darlings OK Go.
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Fabien wrote:As all the teas we had in the OTTI exhibited very sharp and clear cut, is it becoming the rule for high-end teas in Taiwan to be plucked by hand with razor blades on fingers?
Razor blades has been the rule for quite a long while. They fix the razor blades on each of their forefingers on the dorsal side. The cut on the stems though is only one indicator in determining whether a tea is machine or handpicked.
Fabien wrote: I've seen more and more chinese producers doing so but a significant number of them, especially those dealing with high-end greens, continue to pick by hand without using razor blades.
That gets very painful, without razor blades.
Fabien wrote: Is it different in Taiwan? Is it different depending on the type and quality of teas? I'm interested in these different points of view.
AFAIK, high end teas are handpicked with razors just the same over here.
As far as machine picking goes, it's fast catching up to hand-picking with all the new equipment they've developed for post-processing machine-picked leaves. A major problem with hand picking is speed, when the prime picking time is only 3 hours longs at around noon.


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WHAT! NO! SASUKE! GRRR !! Aha Sike .. i think L was listed a little to high
that list blows and is way off,, they must have been drunk when putting that list together
^ same here
Seriously astroboy n speeder? Ok u know i might be able to forgive astro boy since its basically an icon but speeder? Seriously wats it doing so high up there? But im glad Light n Lelouch made it there haha..haruhi n elric as well! Maybe this list was kinda old but damn where is jiraiya n itachi??? Honestly in the hundred over characters introduced in naruto jiraiya really stands out among them all cause those 2 simply broke out of manga stereotypes n u dont really have any other character else there quite like them. In fact i would put them over naruto really...Anw im glad too that kenshin is there that guy was simply...awesome.
hmm the list feels kinda..... bland.
Characters like speed and astro boy were put so high up on the list for the reason that they were the most popular during their era and had been around for a long time since then. Hence, they are now considered "classics" even though they pale in comparison in design, depth, asskicking ect with the modern characters in the new era. Nevertheless, these old classical characters easily beats the new modern characters in popularity and they deserve some credits for that. A lot of people might disagree, but being a "classic" is just not a good enough reason for me that they are so high up. They should be put somewhere lower down the list imo.
Now onto the subjective part :D
I don't mind them putting goku on the number 1 slot. I know this is an 'anime' list but after reading all 42 volumes of dragon ball manga, I would probably put goku (and vegeta) somewhere really high up in my own personal list as well since they both are really bad asses.
I would consider Raito and L to be high up there after kenshin. They should also put some great villains on the list, some gundam characters and some from sport animes as well.
I would not put luffy on the list. He is the most obnoxious shonen hero ever, even more irritating than kid naruto in his loud mouth mode. And I'm not really a big fan of sailormoon and Lelouch either.
I really wish they would have stuck to one character per series. It's more fair and would have given a lot of awesome other characters a chance to shine. I can see how they were doing the list, trying to include characters whose series had been released and dubbed in English, but I'm surprised that there's so many missing. No one from a Gundam series? Seriously?
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Skip to comments.WMDs Found in Iraq
Posted on 11/12/2005 12:25:09 AM PST by FairOpinion
Contrary to ongoing reports by mainstream media outlets, WMDs have been found in Iraq, so reports New York Times best-selling author Richard Miniter in his new book, Disinformation.
Consider these shocking facts:
Found: 1.77 metric tons of enriched uranium
Found: 1,500 gallons of chemical weapons
Found: Roadside bomb loaded with sarin gas
Found: 1,000 radioactive materials--ideal for radioactive dirty bombs
Found: 17 chemical warheads--some containing cyclosarin, a nerve agent five times more powerful than sarin
This is only a partial list of the deadly weapons Miniter reveals in his new book, Disinformation. Miniter systematically dissects the "No-WMD Myth" (how it started, and why it continues), as well as 21 other War-on-Terror myths perpetuated by the media.
Yeah..... but they were old, and most likely brought into Iraq by Don Rumsfeld :-)
Thanks for finding this article.
I posted it as its own thread, it's important to point out the truth, since the Dems and media keeps perpetrating the big lie.
Don't forget the 500 tons of yellowcake taken from Al-Tuwaitha.
I know you were just being sarcastic, but there really is overwhelming evidence of WMD in Iraq. I really don't know why the Bush administration let the Dems get away with all the lies.
Fact Sheet: Iraq's Nuclear Weapon Programme
INVO's extensive inspection activities in Iraq between 1991 and 1998 resulted in a technically coherent picture of Iraq's clandestine nuclear programme. The programme was very well funded and was aimed at the indigenous development and exploitation of technologies for the production of weapons-grade nuclear material and production and manufacturing of nuclear weapons. IAEA report S/1997/779 to the UN Security Council provides a detailed overview of Agency activities in Iraq and its assessment of Iraq's clandestine nuclear weapon programme. An update and summary of this report can be found in S/1998/927 and S/1999/393. The reports cover all Agency activities in Iraq between 1991 and 1998.
Imported 4,006 kg of natural uranium and 6,005 kg of depleted uranium (DU) from Italy in 1979
Imported 1,767 kg low enriched uranium (LEU) from Italy in 1982
Imported almost 50 kg of highly enriched uranium (HEU) from Russia and France
Procured 429 drums containing 138,098 kg yellowcake from Portugal in 1980
Procured 487 drums containing 148,348 kg yellowcake from Portugal in 1982
Procured 432 drums containing 137,435 kg of yellowcake from Niger in 1981
Procured 426 drums containing 139,409 kg of yellowcake from Niger in 1982
Imported 24,260 kg of uranium dioxide from Brazil between 1981-82
Produced 109 tonnes of uranium in 168 tonnes of yellowcake at Al Qaim uranium recovery plant, which was constructed between 1982-84
Produced 420 drums containing 99,457 kg uranium dioxide at Al Jesira uranium conversion facility
Produced UF6 at Rashdiya Engineering and Design Centre
Processed uranium dioxide to produce UF4, uranium metal and UF6 at Tuwaitha Chemical Laboratories
Processed UO2 and yellowcake to produce UO2, U3O8, UO3, UO4, UF4, and uranium metal at Tuwaitha
Experimental Research Laboratory for Fuel Fabrication
Processed UO2 to produce UCl4 at Tuwaitha Chemical Engineering Research laboratories
I would never dare tell President Bush what he should or shouldn't do nor what he should or shouldn't say, but, between me, you and the brickwall, today he should have said.......
That's really almost what she's been going around saying. Just give her a few more days and it IS what she will be claiming.
I think they also found a ton of Barry Manilow 8-track tapes. ;-)
ROTFLMSO..........that's just too funny !
Yes, all that uranium at Tuwaitha is being ignored too.
Progress Made on Iraqi Uranium
Experts from the UN atomic agency have accounted for tons of uranium feared looted from Iraq's largest nuclear research facility, diplomats said Friday.
Experts from the UN atomic agency have accounted for tons of uranium feared looted from Iraq's largest nuclear research facility, diplomats said Friday.
The natural and low-enriched uranium was secured at the Tuwaitha facility, 12 miles south of Baghdad, the diplomats said on condition of anonymity. Tuwaitha was left unguarded after Iraqi troops fled the area on the eve of the war.
U.S. troops didn't secure the area until April 7. In the meantime, looters from the surrounding villages stripped it of uranium storage barrels they later used to hold drinking water.
Was the book of matches still stuck under one side of the 8 track tape so it would play correctly?
I went to college with Rich Miniter - good guy.
Greenpeace Says "Frightening" Radioactivity in Iraqi Villages
TUWAITHA, Iraq - Environmental group Greenpeace called on the US-led coalition governing Iraq to clean up villages surrounding a nuclear site outside Baghdad that have been contaminated by "frightening levels" of radioactive material.
Carrying Arabic and English banners that read "Al-Tuwaitha - nuclear disaster. Act now!", Greenpeace activists returned a large uranium "yellowcake" mixing canister to US troops stationed inside the nuclear plant, 20 kilometres (12 miles) east of the capital.
The canister -- the size of a small car -- contained significant quantities of radioactive yellowcake and had been left open and unattended for more than 20 days on a busy section of open ground near the Tuwaitha plant, Greenpeace said Tuesday.
"No one cares about us. We are dying slowly. Our whole neighborhood is contaminated. Although Greenpeace came, it is too late," said Tareq al-Obeidi, a 41-year-old Tuwaitha city council member.
Greenpeace activist William Peden of Scotland tries to convince a US soldier of the 1st Armored Division to accept back a canister (behind) containing 'yellow cake' or Uranium Oxide which was looted during the war from the nuclear facility in Tuwaitha, 50 kilometers south of Baghdad, Tuesday, June 24, 2003. The canister was found by the environmentalist group Greenpeace in the village near the facility and allegedly is contaminated. Following the fall of Saddam Hussein, residents living near the complex reportedly took barrels of nuclear materials known as 'yellow cake' and other containers for use to store food and water and unaware that the barrels were radioactive and toxic. The canister was eventually brought into the facility.
Well since we did in fact find some of the WMD post war... and since in fact Sadaam was gaming the UN with the Oil For Food debacle and had full intentions of obtaining and using WMD on the U.S. and Israel and since in fact weapons inspectors were not being granted full access and since in fact Al-Qeada was operating out of northern Iraq pre and post war.. The conclusions about whether or not the intelligence was correct or partially correct at the time is moot. The U.S. is much more safe today then before March 03 and every Demorat senator should be made to comment on those facts now. Like Rush Limbaugh says if they believe the rhetoric that they are spouting then they should be called as defense character witnesses in the Sadaam trial. These honest noble Democratic Senators may well just get Sadaam re-instated to power in Iraq.
I - Components of Iraq's nuclear weapon programme Acquisition of weapons usable material
Indigenous production and overt procurement of uranium compounds
Imported 4,006 kg of natural uranium and 6,005 kg of depleted uranium (DU) from Italy in 1979
Imported 1,767 kg low enriched uranium (LEU) from Italy in 1982
Imported almost 50 kg of highly enriched uranium (HEU) from Russia and France
Procured 429 drums containing 138,098 kg yellowcake from Portugal in 1980
Procured 487 drums containing 148,348 kg yellowcake from Portugal in 1982
Procured 432 drums containing 137,435 kg of yellowcake from Niger in 1981
Procured 426 drums containing 139,409 kg of yellowcake from Niger in 1982
Imported 24,260 kg of uranium dioxide from Brazil between 1981-82
Produced 109 tonnes of uranium in 168 tonnes of yellowcake at Al Qaim uranium recovery plant, which was constructed between 1982-84
Produced 420 drums containing 99,457 kg uranium dioxide at Al Jesira uranium conversion facility
Produced UF6 at Rashdiya Engineering and Design Centre
Processed uranium dioxide to produce UF4, uranium metal and UF6 at Tuwaitha Chemical Laboratories
Processed UO2 and yellowcake to produce UO2, U3O8, UO3, UO4, UF4, and uranium metal at Tuwaitha Experimental Research Laboratory for Fuel Fabrication
Processed UO2 to produce UCl4 at Tuwaitha Chemical Engineering Research laboratories
Development of indigenous uranium enrichment capabilities
Electro-magnetic isotope separation (EMIS)
Designed and constructed electromagnets and different magnet separators systems between 1982-87 in Tuwaitha
Designed and constructed one R50 and three R100 separator systems starting from 1985 and operated them until 1991 in Tuwaitha
Designed and constructed R120 and R60 separator systems in Tarmiya
Produced 640 grams of enriched uranium with an average enrichment of 7.2%
Gaseous diffusion uranium enrichment
Initiated in 1982
Constructed related facilities at Tuwaitha and Rashdiya
Manufactured a barrier tube suitable for operation in UF6 in 1988
Gas centrifuge enrichment
Initiated in 1987
Built first oil centrifuge in 1987 and conducted laboratory trials; later shifted to magnetic bearing centrifuge
Developed a series of sub-critical centrifuge designs in 1989
Designed and assembled and tested magnetic centrifuges using a carbon composite rotor in 1990
Construction work for the mass production of centrifuges and a pilot-scale cascade hall at Al Furat began in 1989
R&D on chemical uranium enrichment also took place
In 1981, laser isotopic separation work began and studied both atomic (AVLIS) and molecular (MLIS) technologies
Intended diversion of research reactor fuel
Planned to divert highly enriched uranium, that was subjected to Agency safeguards, at Tuwaitha under a crash programme to use the material in the production of a nuclear weapon
Installed a chemical processing plant at Tuwaitha in about three months in 1990 to extract HEU from research reactor fuel
Had capability to commence the conversion of HEU from UNH to metal in 1991
Production and separation of plutonium
Reactor design did not go beyond theoretical studies
Used IRT-5000 to irradiate three indigenously fabricated natural uranium fuel elements
Separated five grams of plutonium at laboratory-scale process line in Tuwaitha
Weaponisation Facilities
Tuwaitha had facilities and infrastructure for all Group Four activities except for the fabrication, handling, and testing of high explosives
Experimented with high explosives to produce implosive shock waves
Developed a 32-point electronic firing system using detonators and lenses developed at Al Qa Qa
Tested firing system
Tested flash X-ray systems, gas gun systems, fiber optics with fast response electronic equipment, high speed electronic streak cameras towards nuclear weapons
Produced and recovered polonium by irradiating bismuth
Research & Development
Created special unit at Al Qaqaa for the production of high explosive lenses, detonators and propellants for nuclear weapons
Compiled large stocks of imported HMX and RDX and own operating RDX production plant
Al Atheer designed to accommodate all technical activities related to nuclear weapon development, including experiments with high explosives for which an elaborate complex was designed and constructed
Iraqs primary focus was a basic implosion fission design, fuelled by HEU
Using open-source literature and theoretical studies, ran various computer codes through Iraqs mainframe computer to adapt the codes and develop the physical constants for a nuclear weapon development programme
Was aware of more advanced weapon design concepts
Invested significant efforts to understand the various options for neutron initiators
Tested high explosivelenses
Made significant progress in developing capabilities for the production, casting and machining of uranium metal
Casted a uranium sphere of about five centimeter diameter, several hemispheres of similar size and a small number of rods weighing 1.2 kg per piece, from which to machine sub-calibre munitions
Considered two options:
Production of a derivative of the Al Hussein/Al Abbas missile, designed to deliver a one-tonne warhead to a maximum range of 650 km
Using an unmodified Al Hussein missile with a range of 300 km
-The Uranium Files- Iraq, Mr. Bush... and more--
Kindly note- that top link leads you to reply #43 with some old, yet very "interesting," information from a source on the Left:
FAS (Fed Am Scientist) Report: Iraqi Precursor Chemicals Stored Separately for Weapon-side Mixing
I don't know, but when played backwards you did hear Yoko Ono singing.
Thanks for all the great links.
I knew all that should be somewhere. :)
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No wonder this was never found...these girls are waaaaaaaaay to old for Scotty Ritter's tastes.
That are now being used to torture the detainees at Gitmo.
Tell us what we want to know or we'll play Copa Cabana again.... and again...and again....
True! LOL
This is getting too, too funny for words! LOL
Transcript: President Clinton explains Iraq strike
Dec. 16, 1998
Text Of Clinton Statement On Iraq
Feb. 17, 1998
"It admitted, among other things, an offensive biological warfare capability notably 5,000 gallons of botulinum, which causes botulism; 2,000 gallons of anthrax; 25 biological-filled Scud warheads; and 157 aerial bombs.
And I might say UNSCOM inspectors believe that Iraq has actually greatly understated its production. "
If we fail to respond today, Saddam and all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened tomorrow by the knowledge that they can act with impunity, even in the face of a clear message from the United Nations Security Council and clear evidence of a weapons of mass destruction program.
LOL! Four more dumb monkeys!
Claiming that there are no WMD connected with Iraq is a HUGE favor the MSM performed for the Democrats beginning with the 2002 elections. They trotted it out, more stridently, in 2004. It simply isn't true, and it didn't help the Dems in either campaign, but now the MSM can't backtrack, because they are fully invested in the lie. They are literally stuck on stupid.
You should tell the administration as well!
I believe that there is a lot of stored us gas in Congress. Just look at them Their cheeks are bulging. Grand jury is needed to see who and what is "behind" it.
They should play Yoko Ono "singing" as a torture device. ANYONE would talk immediately! Listen here:
I'll bet you can't listen all the way to the end. No one can. No one ever has! It's impossible. Your fingernails will curl up first.
What happened, the cameraman just broke wind?
I don't have earphones and am on my laptop, so should I let this voice permeate in the air, I could do great personal damage and baldness to my 4 pound pet dog who is much more sensitive to such high range out-of-tune screeches.
"Found: 1,500 gallons of chemical weapons"
Considering this article is commenting on a book called 'Disinformation', it's somewhat ironic that they use this as a headline and fail to mention the caveat in the book that this was discovered in 2005 and it was not possible to establish whether the stock pre-dated the war or not.
"Don't forget the 500 tons of yellowcake taken from Al-Tuwaitha."
That was the stuff that we already knew was there that had been documented by the IAEA? Hardly a 'find'.
Wasn`t this whole thing with the UN inspectors about getting Saddass to tell them what he did with all that stuff? I remember liberals and the sewer frogs (French) crying "Let the inspections work...Let the inspections work", but if I remember correctly it wasn`t about seeing if he had any, but what he did with what he had which he would not say. The conclusion then is that they could be anywhere and can be used anywhere and at anytime which liberals and the sewer frogs seem to feel quite safe about because they are insane.
Holy smoke, and I thought Hillary was bad!
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