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Postgame: Home Cooking
Pat Steinberg
November 29 2010 10:37PM
It's funny how perception changes...you could look at Calgary's five game road trip and say they lost four of five games, or you could look more recently and see two wins in three games. Regardless, the Flames took a 3-0 win Monday night over the Minnesota Wild as Miikka Kiprusoff made 32 saves to post his 37th career shutout.
What Happened
Overall, it was a pretty lackluster opening twenty minutes, as neither team really did much...Kent had scoring chances 7-5 in favor of the Wild and they did generate a few quality ones, but for the most part, not a whole lot happened and things were scoreless after one.
The second period was different, as the Flames really came to play and things went the opposite way for the Wild, as the visitors really dropped off. Calgary's opening ten minutes were very strong and they scored twice as a result, starting at 3:08 when Jarome Iginla fed Jay Bouwmeester on a nice backhand pass; JBo potted his third of the season to make it 1-0. Iginla would be in on it again, this time the recipient of an Alex Tanguay pass at the side of the net; Iginla would score his tenth 16 seconds after the opening tally and the Flames would carry a two goal lead into the third period. Minnesota would hammer out a few more chances before the second period would end, but were unable to beat Kiprusoff, who was very strong.
It was only the seventh time time this season the Flames would carry a lead into the final period, and they'd close this one out. Shots would finish 13-10 in favor of the Wild, but impressively, Calgary would only allow seven chances against. It's impressive, as Kent points out, because Minnesota was chasing and the Flames did a nice job of protecting. Niklas Hagman would ice this thing at 18:31 with his seventh on the powerplay to take us to our final score.
One Good Reason...
...why the Flames won? Hey, they converted when they needed to. Miikka Kiprusoff did a nice job making a few huge saves on some Minnesota ten bell chances, but I don't believe he stole this game or anything like that. Overall, the Flames were a bit better, especially after scoring those two goals in 16 seconds; from then on, the Wild didn't have much sustained, even with a few quality chances. Calgary scored twice in the second, protected well in the third and ice this game late...kind of a normal win. They could use a few more of those variety of wins.
Red Warrior
I really liked the captain tonight. 6-1 was the chance count when he was on the ice at even strength, and the top line overall had some really strong spans. From the second period on, I felt Iginla was particularly dominant, seemingly creating things on every 5-on-5 shift. He's been very good the last eight games or so, and once again was a driving force in this game.
Sum It Up
Was it dominant? Nope. Did it do the trick? It sure did...and hey, that's all that matters. The Flames beat a team in front of them in the standings, and a team they're going to need to beat overall; quite frankly, it's a team they should beat. Calgary plays Minnesota three more times in the next ten games.
November 30 2010, 03:02PM
Yeah, Meyer cleared waivers.
On a side note, Avs traded Scott Hannan to the Caps for Tomas Fleischmann. Seems like we have a few aging defenders making about that money that we could have offloaded... derp derp Sutter.
He may have tried. One of the reasons Hannan is attractive is his contract ends this year. Not true of, say, Sarich. And no one wants Staios.
@Kent Wilson
...what about Sarich returning to Tampa? They will earn a playoff spot, have some serious cap space, and need experience on the blue line.
November 30 2010, 04:22PM
He may have tried. One of the reasons Hannan is attractive is his contract ends this year. Not true of, say, Sarich. And no one wants Staios.
The Oil might take him back . . .
Actually he would be sitting in about the 5-6 on the depth chart on the Oilers (how scary is that). Given that the Oilers have cap room they could bring him back for the proverbial bag of pucks and offensive zone draw.
They wouldn't really give something up for him but I'm sure Flames ownership would prefer to have the money associated with an expensive healthy scratch.
fwiw i read somewhere in the swedish media that backlund has been told to get a permanent flat/house in calgary
November 30 2010, 10:25PM
perhaps the greek nation hockey team will take staios as player/coach. the oil are only a few points back and seem to be responding to rennies blast.lots of cap space left to acquire some key personnel. besides they are sitting pretty in the draft for yet another great pick.the difference between the oilers and the flames is that the oilers have vision.
@hal a pena
The difference between you and a normal hockey fan is that you have had too much of that "hope for the future" kool aid.
They may have "lots of cap space to acquire key personnel" but remember that noone classified as key personnel would want to play in Edmonton.
Pretty sure Re-Khab would rather be in jail right now.
December 01 2010, 09:37AM
The difference between you and a normal hockey fan is that you have had too much of that "hope for the future" kool aid.
They may have "lots of cap space to acquire key personnel" but remember that noone classified as key personnel would want to play in Edmonton.
Pretty sure Re-Khab would rather be in jail right now.
lmao too much kool aid? hope and optimism versus the current sutter philosphy of old and slow and nothing in the cupboards as true prospects go. i am okay with that. how many picks do the flames have in the first 100? one. look at the dale tallon plan buddy,chicago loaded up on picks and were then able to address strengths and weaknesses, reward a stanley cup and a young core. florida is going in that direction under tallon. so go ahead and ridicule.what is so different between edmonton and calgary?
You're forgetting Tambellini isn't Dave Tallon.
Sucking for years & being able to draft high every year has paid off for Chicago, Pittsburgh, & Washington.
Keep in mind the same strategy hasn't gone so well for the Islanders, Thrashers, or Blue Jackets.
The jury is still out on the Oilers. Eberle is a great prospect, I'd say the most complete player of the three rookies, Taylor Hall still has a long way to go.
The Eberle/Hall duo doesn't compare to Crosby/Malkin, Toews/Kane, Ovechkin/Backstrom.


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Friday, May 10, 2013
Aspiring beekeepers from Bedford and surrounding towns and Massachusetts, graduated April 9 from Bee School in Merrimack.
The six-week, once-a-week, class is hosted annually by the Merrimack Valley Beekeepers Association, one of seven regional associations in the New Hampshire Beekeepers Association, an all-volunteer state group.
The weekly, three-hour sessions brought together about 80 men, women and families to St. James Methodist Church. The students were taught by a team of experienced beekeepers – John Hamblet, of Lowell, Mass.; Louisa Varnum, of Lowell; David Ross, of Atkinson; Allen Lindahl, of Merrimack; Eric Helgemoe, of Pelham; Alden Marshall, of Hudson; and Chuck Chrisler, of Windham.
The emcee and organizer was MVBA Vice President John Hamblet. Presenters talked about how to begin beekeeping and the equipment needed to proceed. Later, facts about hive occupants and colony activities were offered. David Ross, MVBA president, described the properties and uses of honey, beeswax, pollen and other hive products.
Bedford's Alexandra Letourneau, 15, and Sarah Letourneau, 9, attended every class. Their father heard about the classes and the girls wholeheartedly embraced the idea of going to bee school.
"We'd like to make our own honey, so we're thinking of getting bees," Alexandra said. "It could be a good business and it's just a really good way to help the environment."
The Meisner family, also of Bedford, attended bee school, en masse. Kasey and Mark Meisner brought along a daughter and three sons. Youngsters Rachel Meisner, 3, and Joshua Meisner, 4, were especially excited to learn about bees.
"We all went to every class," Kasey said. "It was family bee night. We already have our hive. The kids painted it a Disney color, Pooh Bear Yellow – a honey yellow. And we get our bees in May."
Some at bee school wondered about starting a business selling honey or beeswax candles. Others said they just wanted to help bees thrive, knowing that bees pollinate most of the grains, vegetables, fruits and flowers so important for life.
Tom Mikulis, of Merrimack, said he was at the classes to learn how to incorporate honey bees into his home garden, a space of nearly an acre. He grows 360 different flowering perennials, fruit trees and other beauties. He also has a cactus garden. Another space is a mini-bog in which he grows moisture loving plants such as Jack-in-the-Pulpit.
"I purchased one hive," Mikulis said. "We'll see if I can use the honey bees to ensure a good crop from my plants."
Paul Speir, of Brookline, is a second-year beekeeper with two hives. He has intentions to expand the number to three this season and to follow many of the guidelines shared in the classes.
"The MVBA bee class is great because it connects students with local experts," Speir said. "I've learned a lot in the class about some of the best practices and methods for beekeeping in New England."
Speir and the other students were attentive as they heard how bees make six-sided cells out of wax secreted in tiny flakes from the bees' abdomens. The queen bee lays eggs in the cells. They learned that a crowded hive can result in swarming – a mass exodus that most often happens when a colony needs a bigger home.
Stacey Murphy, of Brookline, is celebrating her first full year as a beekeeper. She already is aware of swarming, and had glowing reviews about bee school.
"The MVBA is a wonderful place to learn about bees and to network with experienced beekeepers," Murphy said. "My bees are doing well and are ready to start visiting plants."
Many students agreed that the life cycle of the honey bee is a fascinating subject. There are worker bees, all females, that comprise about 90 percent of the hive. Drones, males whose only job in life is to mate with a queen bee, make up the remainder. The queen bee can lay around 1,500 eggs per day. She can live two years or more. Workers, on the other hand, have a life span of about six weeks. It is the constant replenishment of the hive with newborn bees that keeps the hive well populated.
Alden Marshall, treasurer of the MVBA and owner of B-Line Apiaries in Hudson, noted that acquiring a queen bee, accompanied by a package of honey bees weighing around three pounds, oftentimes provides the launching point for a venture into beekeeping. Many of the new students were awaiting their first packages and queens. They have already prepared the square, stacked, wooden hive bodies where the bees will live. One queen and one package per hive is the accepted measure.
Laurie MacLean and her daughter, Andrea MacLean, came from their home, Brookline's Winterberry Farm, to attend the school. The farm is a five-acre homestead where a camp for kids is in the planning stages. Bread baking, soap making, growing vegetables and making candles from beeswax are shared interests.
"We're going to have bees for the first time," Laurie said. "We've been wanting to do this for a long time. I want bees to be here."
Andrea credited the MVBA mentor program as a valued asset. Graduates have access to expert beekeepers available for advice.
"The mentor program is really helpful in case we need guidance," said Andrea, who majored in business. "We'll have the bees pollinating our farm. They'll help us, and we'll help them. We're so excited about it."
Teacher Lindahl soon heard from bee school graduate Ron Therrien, of Weare. Therrien was given an on-site tour of Lindahl's business, Hillside Apiaries in Merrimack, where a long row of white hives awaited a new supply of honey bees. New England winters are hard on bees and casualties are common, Lindahl said.
Lindahl and Therrien went to work, opening one at a time some wooden boxes with screened sides that held thousands of bees. A three-pound package, each including a queen bee, are added to the hive boxes and provide the start for many a traditional hive. Lindahl said that bee school makes a great "first step" into beekeeping. He also enjoys adding an additional hands-on aspect.
"It's not beekeeping until you get your hands into a hive," Lindahl said. "That's where the experience comes in. It's not all in the textbooks."
The MVBA is an organization for hobbyists and those that make beekeeping a business. The club hosts meetings on the first Saturday of the month at the Hudson Recreation Center, 2 Oakwood St., in Hudson. A social hour with refreshments begins at 6:30 p.m. A business meeting begins at 7:30. A raffle is held and a guest speaker is a frequent highlight. Dues are minimal.
For more details on the Merrimack Valley Beekeepers Association, visit www.mvbee.org.
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I had a look at the Flames depth chart the other day.
I thought the situation for this season was going to be grim going into October. In fact, I was pretty sure that Feaster was positioning the team for a top-five pick in this year's draft deliberately. The quote from the Calgary Flames' website the other day about his perception of the talent available in the 2013 free-agent crop seemed to be sane, realistic and arguably backed up this belief.
"At our meeting with ownership on May 9, we presented a preliminary list of unrestricted free agents at that time," Feaster said, according to the team's website. "One of the things we said to ownership was that we didn't believe the answers to our problems, our situations, our needs were necessarily going to found in unrestricted free agency."
Then I looked at their roster situation and depth chart and I had to laugh. The kind of laugh that comes out unbidden, when you see someone quite serenely and soberly walk into a calamity of their own volition, and it would appear to be the most natural thing in the world, except that it has everyone around them looking and thinking "what the-?!"
In the Deep End
The current depth chart for the Flames at center, according to capgeek, begins with Matt Stajan, moves on to Mikael Backlund, and then progresses (regresses?) to Blair Jones. Corban Knight appears set to take over as a 3rd or 4th line center, but he has never played an NHL game and with Sean Monahan coming in this year (a prospect whom I was hopeful the Oilers could select) this could result in the Flames dressing two rookies at center along with a developing 2nd line center in Backlund and perennial whipping boy Matt Stajan.
I shouldn't have to tell you that that is not a good thing.
The wings offer Calgary's one hope for fighting chance this season, but this is where the story takes another twist and leads to the heart of the matter.
Of the top-six wingers currently on the team, four arguably have the distinction of being considered bona fide top-six talents: Glencross, Hudler, Cammalleri and Stempniak. Cammalleri is over 30 now and his production is likely to decline (if he isn't post-apex, he can at least see it from here), and Stempniak is a prototypical depth winger. Scott Cullen has a terrific review of NHL rosters every off-season and includes a rating system for forwards. Stempniak makes the cut for a top-six forward just barely. On top of this, these same two wingers are pending UFAs at the end of this season. This is arguably the good news, as it means that the opportunity exists for the Flames to move both for picks or prospects at the deadline and rid themselves of two players who no longer fit the needs of the team.
However, this leads into the other free-agents-to-be for the Flames. This coming season Chris Butler, Kris Russell and Derek Smith are all set to become unrestricted free agents. None of those are crippling losses for the roster as they are all 3rd pairing blueliners. However, it does bring attention to an oft-overlooked weakness of the Flames organization: a dearth of prospects on the blueline. Here we get into the real crux of this article.
Kent Wilson has summed up the Flames development system in a very concise and accurate fashion before by simply saying "they need everything". This was prior to the 2013 draft, but still it could be considered to generally be true. Yet there are some areas that are more pressing needs than others.
To demonstrate, let's run a scenario.
If we were to assume that the Flames lost all three of those players listed above to free-agency, something I think is unlikely given Jay Feaster's penchant for offering contract extension to blueliners early in the season (see Sarich, Cory), it would mean that the team is almost certain to pursue at least two of those three positions through free-agency next summer.
There are very few internal options ready to step in and play at the NHL level right now.
Mark Cundari did have a short spell at the end of last season, and by eye performed well enough to give him another chance this coming year. However, it would be rash to expect him to graduate to a 3rd pairing NHL job next season this early in his development. There is also the towering Chris Breen who has been a top-4 guy in Abootsford for a couple of years. Breen could be a bottom pairing option if his lack of mobility and puck skills aren't too crippling. Fans have hopes for Tyler Wotherspoon, but at this point we don't know what kind of pro he might be.
At the same time there is nothing to suggest that there would be significantly better options available through free-agency next summer. The end result is that the Flames may let some free-agents go only to replace them with statistical dopplegangers who do not move the dial. Without internal options to improve, and with the roster built such as it is, it becomes highly unlikely that the best free-agents would choose to sign in Calgary until the team is competitive, it is difficult to project a scenario that seems marked improvement in this area either this season or next.
Now bottom pairing defensemen are generally cheap, so this isn't meant to suggest that the sky is falling. But it is a symptom of a larger problem within the organization.
Future Flames?
For the most part, I don't have a great deal of faith in Hockey's Future prospect rankings. Where I do find them useful is in how they can provide all of the names of prospects broken into forward, defense and goal positions. The Flames are currently listed with seven defensive prospects in their system. If we account for the general rate of attrition amongst prospects, that would mean that one of those bodies is likely to become an NHL player. And that excludes the higher rate of lost prospects amongst defensemen due to injury.
Of all the names on the Flames' list of blueliners developing, I'd put money on Wotherspoon at this stage. He's made it this far. Sieloff has come along well, and Cundari has already played some NHL games, but it is a long, long way from prospect to player.
The only other area in which the Flames are more desperate for prospects, warm bodies even, would be at Right Wing. Presumably the organization felt that this position was more or less taken care of for the foreseeable future when #12 was on the roster. Today, they have four names listed as RW prospects: Greg Nemisz, David Eddy, Ben Hanowski, and Tim Harrison, although left shooting Emile Poirier can apparently play both wings. Of those, Hanowski is closest to the NHL and will begin his first full professional season this year, likely in the AHL. Nemisz and Eddy are AHL-level talents and Harrison was a 6th round pick this past draft.
Wing is a difficult position to nail down as some players can switch sides, however for the most part a player has a clear preference or competence for one side or the other. Either way, RW is an area in which the Flames would be well-advised to spend some time acquiring and developing prospects or younger players at least.
The Flames have one area of prospect development that is brimming with bodies: goaltending. However, as has been discussed here at FN, that is also one of the least efficient areas of development in which to invest. The percentage of players who turn into useful NHL guys is notoriously small, and when taken in conjunction with the almost voodoo-like methods of discerning goaltending talent amongst prospects, it is a stock portfolio heavily leveraged in lottery tickets. If it pays off, you're set. If not...
But What Comes Next?
So the Flames have a shortage of NHL-tested centers for this coming year (nothing new), a paucity which may force or entice the team to push recent draft Sean Monahan into service. The club is also heavy with wingers whose best-before date is quickly approaching or whose ceiling is well-below elite and are set to become free-agents, a shortage of internal options with which those roster spots can be replaced, and a defense corps that is set to lose marginal supporting players to free-agency thus raising the even-more-terrifying specter of re-signing those players to retain some semblance of an NHL roster, with no obvious TJ Brodie-like internal replacements on the horizon.
But what might be the bright side of this situation? There is a concept known as creative destruction, highlighted in the book "Why Nations Fail" by Daron Acemoglu and James Robinson, which can be defined as the opportunity which arises from the collapse of a system, leading to the creation of an innovative and adaptive new system in its wake. For the Flames, the collapse of their previous roster paradigm - centered around Jarome Iginla, Jay Bouwmeester and Miikka Kiprusoff - has already occurred and a new one is waiting to be established.
It should be noted that the collapse of an institution or system does not inherently demand the creation of a new one to take its place. A vacuum can exist following such a collapse, with no new paradigm or structure emerging to take its place. In NHL terms, this would be those teams who wander the proverbial desert.
For the sake of argument let us assume that the roster holes that exist today will be filled with upgrades, even minor ones, via trade and free-agency, the alternative is the status quo and as much as that has been the norm over the past few years for the Flames, it almost certainly will not be so any longer.
If the Flames address their pending roster holes (on the wings and the 4,5,6,7 slots on the blueline) through free-agency they must run uphill to attract quality, impact players who will improve the team by their mere addition. A difficult sell when the team had a fighting chance, now that they are rebuilding this is a virtual impossibiity. An alternative is that they will have to settle for the second-tier UFAs who can, at the very least, sustain the team and help support those players already there as they continue to develop.
The latter is the option that I believe is most feasible and will be the most desirable in the long-term as it will allow the team to come to rest in its most natural setting and draft accordingly. Thus creating an opportunity for value-added restructuring through improved draft position.
Crafting A Solid Foundation
The Flames have begun to assemble a collection of prospects around which the team intends to build. Statistically speaking, of the past three drafts, it would be reasonable to expect that the Flames will graduate approximately two impact to elite-level NHL players and three to four NHL players at or slightly above replacement level over the next five years.That is in total, not on a per/year basis, for the draft years extending from 2011 to 2013, and obviously this is based solely on those prospects currently enlisted.
Based on that rough projection, and factoring in a rate of attrition with an older roster and impending free-agents coming due over the next three seasons (nine in 2013-14, four in 2014-15, and three in 2015-16) that would require the Flames to graduate an astonishing number of rookies into their NHL roster over the next few years. Upwards of four or five next season, though declining after that. Simply put, their current development system and talent pool does not support this level of elevation.
Obviously this won't happen and they will try to augment this roster need by re-signing some free-agents and acquiring new ones. I'm leaving out trade possibilities because it is impossible to predict.
The rebuilding of the Calgary Flames is currently focused on their drafting and development. However, management has shown a willingness, eagerness even, to pursue trades as a means of adding prospects further along in their development than those currently available.
Regardless of the team's record in either of these departments, the former is the most enticing and ultimately promising area of franchise expenditure. Draft picks are a renewable asset with an historical rate of return - depending on position - and, when handled properly, offer a cheap influx of talent on an almost annual basis.
The rebuilding effort underway in the Flames organization today begins, correctly, with the drafting and developing of a core of players. However, there are several areas of development and multiple factors at play simultaneously. Free-agency, recognizing and re-signing important depth pieces of the roster, leveraging current assets to support the larger long-term goal, and establishing a balance within a poorly maintained talent pool are all requirements. The task ahead would be like trying to solve a Rubik's Cube by moving all sides at once.
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I believe this team is finally heading in the right direction and re-tooling in the correct manner.
Maybe I see things different, but I thought after the trade deadline and the team finally started to realize the commitment and dedication to building a new identity and inserted some youth into the lineup I started enjoy watching the Flames play again.
While it would be naive to suggest that with the current roster this team is cup contender, I do believe that this upcoming season will be most interesting to watch the Flame's "B" boys play. There are certainly no guarantees when it comes to this crazy game of hockey, but I feel that this current roster will have more accountability to each other and play with more pride and drive. Talent wise this team may be lacking that "elite" level, however, I feel that the easily satisfied, lack of passion has been replaced in the locker room.
I like the current roster and the depth this team is slowly building. As I said a few seasons ago this team was in dire need of an overhaul not only on the ice, but in the dressing room. Progress will take time, just ask Taveres and Islanders, or the Avalanche, well Calgary has to start from somewhere and I like the core that the management is building. Most importantly I like the fact there will be more hunger and "eye of the tiger" for the future of this franchise. Keep drafting well and emphasize development and this team will be a contender once again.
That was a well written 5000 words that could have been summed up in 30. Nonetheless, accurate description of where we are.
July 09 2013, 10:18PM
I think EDM will be significantly better this upcoming season. I think MacT has done a very good job. The 'boldness' to me was a line fans could be heartened with and if rumour is true he tried hard.
I do think that when CAR took Lindholm and we took Monahan it screwed him over. I think he wanted a centre that could bump Gagner to third line.
The question I have about his draft choice: Who will be better (long term) at their position, Nurse or Horvat (who I think they should've taken)?
I agree with you about defence prospects and 'gestation' time (haha).
However I think you can piecemeal a d corp (like the Hawks, Bruins) once you have 1 true stud. For the oil, Schultz or Klembom or Nurse (one of which I think should get flipped for a power centre). For Calgary...(I love Brodie but is he great? Hopefully.)
I don't think the cost of acquiring good but not great d men is too high, compared to good but not great centres (and wingers to a lesser degree).
EDM just has more good young pieces. They should since they've been at the rebuild longer.
I think there is generational talent (I don't think Hall, RNH or Yak are generational - but really good) coming with the next 2-3 drafts and it would be sweet if Calgary gets it. Will Calgary's drafted players push through before (will they push through at all?) and take them out of the running? As Weisbrod pointed out, look at Kadri: #7 in 2009. Broke through 4 years later.
The timing is looking good for Calgary.
As much as it pains me, Edmonton does have at least one (and IMO likely more) elite player;
Taylor Hall.
I wouldn't say so. He had no production in the crunch last year and was played sparingly overseas due to his trouble with the coaching staff. He is one who may develop into that category.
nah he's one head down charge from being Eric Lindros'd right out of the league.
That's a myth. Hall has never had a concussion (at least, he hasn't since he turned pro). The injury you're thinking of occurred when a teammate stepped on his face during a warmup. A broken cheekbone, I believe.
Last season, Hall didn't face any freak accidents. And, lo and behold, he played a full season. Funny how that works out.
Taylor Hall will always be dangerous, but once RNH adds a few pounds, he and Eberle will be big point producers. They still need another centre though. The most important position in hockey.
I really hope Feaster and company at least try to sign Grabovski. We'll need a veteran point producer once Cammaleri is gone.
@Jeff Lebowski
"Who will be better (long term) at their position, Nurse or Horvat (who I think they should've taken)?"
Nurse. And it isn't even close.
ALL of the hype surrounding Horvat comes from a) the fact that he plays the game "the right way" (and he's Canadian) and b) from a decent playoff (23 points in 20 games). In the regular season, he had only 61 points in 67 games. That's worse than noted plug Brendan Gaunce did in his draft year. And Horvat was on a MUCH better team.
Honestly, I don't get it.
July 09 2013, 11:29PM
@Jeff Lebowski
"I think EDM will be significantly better this upcoming season."
I disagree. I think they could be better (they were pretty bad, so improvement should be in the cards), but I doubt they make the playoffs. The defense is still bad bordering on atrocious, and Dubnyk scares exactly nobody as a #1 goaltender.
The biggest hole on the roster is at #2C where Gagner has been a corsi disaster. On a team starving for a #2 pivot Gagner is being converted to the wing.
"The question I have about his draft choice: Who will be better (long term) at their position, Nurse or Horvat (who I think they should've taken)?"
Nurse. Horvat brings a wide variety of skills to the dance, and should be an excellent complimentary player, but Nurse flashes true #1 potential, and has freakish athletic abilities in terms of size and skating. The tough call for me isn't on Nurse over Horvat, it is Nurse over Nichushkin.
"However I think you can piecemeal a d corp (like the Hawks, Bruins) once you have 1 true stud"
Agreed, though I think the Hawks have two; Keith and Seabrook.
"For the oil, Schultz or Klembom or Nurse (one of which I think should get flipped for a power centre)."
I don't think you can flip either of Klefbom or Nurse for a power center, they are too rare a breed (which is why have some sympathy for the idea the Oilers should have taken Horvat).
"I think there is generational talent (I don't think Hall, RNH or Yak are generational - but really good) coming with the next 2-3 drafts and it would be sweet if Calgary gets it."
It would be sweet. That said, I think Hall is one of the elite right now, and is arguably the 2nd best LW in the game after Ovechkin, or the best if OV is a RW.
"The timing is looking good for Calgary."
I tend to agree. I'd put the inner boundary for a return to the playoffs at two years, and the outer at six.
The only negative I can see about where the Oilers are at now, is that Colorado are developing at the same rate if not better. Aves have Landeskog, Duchene and now Mackinnon.. should be some good battles in the future!
July 10 2013, 12:59AM
What a confusing article. First para says you laughed because feasted reckons that there is not much to currently help in free agency. Then you list a million reasons where the team sucks. Then you recap by saying a lot more words and suggest that they need more prospects/trades/free agents. Er yeah I guess so ....
That's a myth. Hall has never had a concussion (at least, he hasn't since he turned pro). The injury you're thinking of occurred when a teammate stepped on his face during a warmup. A broken cheekbone, I believe.
Last season, Hall didn't face any freak accidents. And, lo and behold, he played a full season. Funny how that works out.
Yeah but he's been lucky, is he not notorious for charging around with his head down? or has he smartened up?
July 10 2013, 08:02AM
That's a myth. Hall has never had a concussion (at least, he hasn't since he turned pro). The injury you're thinking of occurred when a teammate stepped on his face during a warmup. A broken cheekbone, I believe.
Last season, Hall didn't face any freak accidents. And, lo and behold, he played a full season. Funny how that works out.
Didn't Sarich give Hall a concussion?
July 10 2013, 09:17AM
Taylor Hall will always be dangerous, but once RNH adds a few pounds, he and Eberle will be big point producers. They still need another centre though. The most important position in hockey.
I really hope Feaster and company at least try to sign Grabovski. We'll need a veteran point producer once Cammaleri is gone.
Brunner might be a nice fit in Edmonton. Ditto, Grabovski.
Both could fit their needs... But both are on the small-side.
July 10 2013, 09:19AM
The only negative I can see about where the Oilers are at now, is that Colorado are developing at the same rate if not better. Aves have Landeskog, Duchene and now Mackinnon.. should be some good battles in the future!
The Avs could be very good, very quick. I get a sense they'll surprise a lot of people next season.
July 10 2013, 09:23AM
He did.
Hall's injury history is largely a combination of nagging junior issues (shoulder) and freak incidents as when Potter stepped on his forehead and he sprained his ankle in a fight with Jared Boll (iirc).
The Sarich hit was one bona fide injury that fits the bill of many of his critics, keeping his head down. Gabriel Landeskog had a more significant injury two years ago with Andy Sutton that was the result of the same thing. These things happen with young forwards and Hall has impressed in his ability to alter and adapt his game thus far into his career.
No doubt, Hall is good; I wasn't a believe until I watched him quite a bit last season. People that doubt him haven't been watching him or aren't objective.
Regardless, the oil are going to be hard pressed to crack 10th.
July 10 2013, 09:26AM
@everton fc
They have a worse situation on defence then the Oil do. I remember when everyone was hyping them up last year, picking them to win the North West. I just don't see it. Good in the future? Likely. I have a hard time believe they'll suddenly get over their major issues just because of Patrick Roy. Could be wrong though.
"With regards to the 2013 draft year being one of the top three of all time, I'm sorry, but all the recent history suggests that this simply is not the case."
What Recent History?? Hahahah. I just gave you three examples off the top of my head that completely support the drafts depth. I could make a case for almost any other Top. 60 pick this year (Not Michael McCarron or Marko Dano) being drafted 10-30 slots higher.
Kerby Rychel had 87 points this season. Other years a pure scorer like him goes in the Top. 10, as scouts would look past average skating. This year they can afford to be picky, hence why in deep years first rounders pan out so often, teams are twice as selective with the scouting process, major question marks are not overlooked.Hunter Shinkaruk would not fall outside of the Top. 10 any other year because he had a bad "interview or two". But once again teams could be selective this year because of the talent pool. Anthony Mantha scores 50 GOALS and Detroit knows they can trade down and still get him at 20...
The greatest comparison of all, look at Klefbom's (19th) J20 SuperElit 2011-2012 Stats the year after he was drafted and Hägg's (41st) totals this year. Oscar Klefbom (GP 15 G 1 A 3 P 4 -4) Robert Hägg (GP 28 G 11 A 13 P 24 +8)Hagg put up far better offensive numbers with a better +/-. Basically Klefbom would have been very lucky to go in the second round this year.
Do you want to know where Andrew Cogliano (25th) goes this year (best Tier Two Player)?? Look no further than Adam Tambellini who went 65th. Actually watched both of them draft year Tambellini has a much better release is four inches taller and his skating isn't far off. Look at Nic Petan (43rd) compare him to Jaden Schwartz who went 14th his draft year... You cannot tell me Petan is not a Top. 20 player any other year. This years first two rounds were twice as deep as normal, as someone who follows the draft extremely close if this is not one of the top three all time it definitely is the best without a doubt since 2003. Most teams will come away with at least 1-2 Top. 6 players the Flames came away with at least 3.
I wouldn't say so. He had no production in the crunch last year and was played sparingly overseas due to his trouble with the coaching staff. He is one who may develop into that category.
So you don't think Hall qualifies as an elite player (he would have been second line all star had the hockey writers not voted OV to left and right wing...). But we think Sven, Johnny G and 3-4 others are elite prospects...
I mean I'm a homer fan too but yikes. If Hall isn't elite, I can confidently declare we have zero elite prospects. I get hating on the Coilers but common...


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You may know Kelsey Chow from Disney XD's Pair of Kings. In this interview you'll find out how she got her start as an actress, the dirt on her co-stars, Mitchel Musso and Doc Shaw, and the world issue she is passionate about.
Q: Tell me about your character, Mikayla, on Pair of Kings.
Kelsey: Mikayla is the assistant to the kings as well as a guard in training. So what's really, really awesome about her character is she does kind of have this girly side and her wardrobe is very girly, but she's also really, really tough. Being able to act out the martial arts side of her is really fun. She's very loyal; she's very smart; she's very witty. She's definitely someone that I would look up to. She can definitely take care of herself. I would say that we do have some characteristics that are similar. We're very family oriented and we're very loyal. Mikayla is really. . . what's important to her is that the people of the island are safe and that they're happy, and I think that's what I always want to make sure about the people that I love. You know, I still wish I was as tough as her, though.
Q: How would you describe Mitchel Musso, your co-star on Pair of Kings?
Kelsey: Mitchel's actually become a really good friend of mine through doing Pair of Kings now for two years. He's also really dedicated to his music, so he's definitely a hard-working guy. And he's very, very sweet. And he and Doc goof off all the time on set. I guess off camera he's like a family guy. He absolutely adores his brothers and his mom and his dad and his friends. They come to all the tapings and you can really tell he looks up to his older brother and really supports his younger brother, which I definitely admire.
Q: What about Doc? How would you describe him?
Kelsey: Doc is. . . well he gets mad because I call him my little brother because technically I'm like a couple of months older. But Doc's amazing. We're actually really close too. We did a Friends for Change spot on the Disney Channel this past fall and it was close to my hometown in South Carolina. So Doc and his mom came to hang out with my family at the beach which was a lot of fun. He is just hilarious in everything that he does. He's extremely intelligent. You know, his opinions on anything, you want to hear.
Q: When did you know that you wanted to be a performer?
Kelsey: Definitely community theatre. It was my very first show. I was in Ragtime, and actually I was taking a class at the theatre and the director stopped me and was like, "Hey you, audition for this show. The auditions are tonight." And I ran to my mom and I was like, "Ok, we've got to prepare a song." And in the audition I barely even knew the words. It was terrible, but I ended up getting the role. I was in seventh grade at the time and I fell in love with it – I made really, really great friends and I loved being on the stage. I really, really loved it and I knew I wanted to pursue it.
Q: Did you have any problems when you were in school back then?
Kelsey: It was really hard because of the hours. We were working from July to mid-October, and so I would have to go right after school for rehearsal. Doors open at 7 and then, you know, Ragtime is such a long show that we wouldn't get out until like 11. So I would be up at 2 in the morning trying to get all my work done and then, you know, be up at 8 for school the next day, and that was a little challenging. My friends were so supportive. They all came out to see the show. That totally meant so much to me. And you know, I missed out on a couple of social things, but of course it was worth it.
Q: Describe yourself as a student in middle school.
Kelsey: I was a total like nerd perfectionist. I wanted to make sure that all my homework was done, that I checked it three times, and everything else. But at the same time I loved hanging out with my friends, so I really tried hard to kind of balance both. Then you know in eighth grade, I went out for like the track team, so I really tried to maintain a good balance, but I was definitely a brainiac for sure.
Q: Any first day of school memories?
Kelsey: I'm always late, which is bad. [Laughter.] I think it's because I kind of overthink it. The first day of school was always really, really exciting to me. Gosh, I was such a dork. I was so excited about buying school supplies and I had to make sure that they were all ready in my book bag. We had uniforms at my school so I had to make sure even that was perfect. So I guess in doing that, in the preparation, I was always kind of late. I was always the one in class they'd call, and I'd be running in to class.
Q: Now you're studying Global Studies at Columbia University. Why did you choose that?
Kelsey: My grandmother and my grandfather were doctors in the World Health Organization, and so my dad actually grew up in Libya. Then he became a physician and has always worked with a lot of humanitarian efforts. I even remember at Christmas time we would prepare care packages and my dad would take them to Guatemala or Honduras. So it's just something that I definitely feel passionate about. I think that every person deserves basic health care. So in terms of Global Health, I'm more interested in the policy of that and, you know, doing anything that I can to push that movement.
She's a beautiful, successful actress, AND she's making the world a better place. I love her!
Interview by Marie Morreale
Photo courtesy of Disney Channel


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Their conversation will focus on the changing face of religion in public life in the era of the Obama administration and the perspective DuBois brings through his new role as head of the White House Office of Faith-based and Neighborhood Partnerships.
A Q+A session, moderated by Larry Jacobs of the University of Minnesota Humphrey Institute, will follow the conversation. The evening will begin with pre-show music of Robert Bell and David Stenshoel, providing some European/American influenced jazz through the instrumentation of guitar, oud, and violin.
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Skip to comments.Glaswegian scientists snap entangled particles --- Next: the Schrödinger's LOL-cat blog?
Posted on 08/10/2012 10:09:26 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
A group of physicists at the University of Glasgow is claiming a first: taking photos of entangled photons.
In this paper in Nature (hooray for free access!), they explain that their 201 x 201 pixel images captured around 2,500 different entangled quantum states.
The entangled photons were imaged using different lens configurations to capture correlations of position and momentum the characteristics (to shorthand Heisenbergs uncertainty principle) that mutually preclude excessive knowledge about a given quantum system.
From the 100,000 images taken by their setup (pictured*), the scientists say they were able to observe 2,500 states which they described as EinsteinPodolskyRosen type correlations. The EPR paradox is the key classical criticism against quantum entanglement, since the state information in entangled quanta propagates faster than the speed of light.
The Glasgow quantum-entanglement telescope-camera setup (see text)
Source: Nature
In other words, the Glasgow team, comprising Matthew Edgar, Daniel Tasca and Professor Miles Padgett, spotted instant correlations in their separated-but-entangled photons.
As the universitys release puts it, by taking pictures of pairs of photons the researchers measured correlations in the photons positions to a degree that is not allowed according to classical physics.
The researchers say that photographing quantum correlations will make useful contributions to developing quantum computers.
*The camera setup used lenses with 100mm and 200mm focal lengths - (a) in the picture - to measure position correlation, and added a 50mm focal length lens (b) for momentum correlations. ®
Hmmm,...watching small stuff.
I can and can't has cheezburger?
So where are the pictures?
This should be repeatable. Unlike much of 'climate' science, repeatable.
I'm still not fully buying the entangled particles idea.
Then scroll down a bit.
And several butcher's aprons.
I love it when that happens.
Though not too related, somewhere Halton Arp laughs at the that is not allowed according to classical physics part.
Neither did Einstein, but there was an experiment done that basically proved it was happening, two actually.
Einstein, of all people, had a stake in not believing it, given a part of it violates 'the speed limit', which is c.
Spooky action at a distance.
What kind of light do you shine on a photon to take a picture of it?
Guess it is some kind of special light,.....LOL!
Thanks Ernest.
Very interesting. Thanks for posting.
IF time travel ever happens at different from daily rate (we time travel every day into the next day), then the where when of each day must be quantumly entangled to every other day, past or future. Think about it ... this moment is happening at a location different from the location of the following moments or previous moemnts, so for coherency each must be connected to those past and future.
IF time travel ever happens at different from daily rate (we time travel every day into the next day), then the where when of each day must be quantumly entangled to every other day, past or future. Think about it ... this moment is happening at a location different from the location of the following moments or previous moments, so for coherency each must be connected to those past and future.
Like in the movie Primer?
I take my cues from what I find in the Bible and how scenes from the Bible inform regarding concepts in modern Physics and Cosmology.
If you will, the where when of 1865 events is not only 'back', temporally, it is spatially in a very distant place, when you consider the motions out galaxy cluster, out galaxy, our solar system, out planet, and the background of the entire universe are compared moment by moment and location by location. Our motion is a revolving planet, an orbiting planet, a star orbiting in a rather remote arm of a galaxy which is moving with a cluster of galaxies, in some direction. Each of these motions have a different rate of location change, and due to gravitational fields effecting temporal reality, have different temporal shift rates.
Right. The coordinates ARE different.
An interesting (not scientifically rigorous, but interesting) take on this concept is Stephen King's novella, The Langoliers. In this story he explores the idea of "the past" being an actual PLACE.
A curious notion in that story, that the past is being consumed and that the past is not inhabited. The folks on the plane did not see humans until they made it back to the present.
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fall out boy's first album, take this to your grave, was good. it was one of the first real pop rock albums, with bands like cartel, all time low, boys like girls following. from under the cork tree was decent, and everything went downhill from there.
same with linkin park, their first album was great, and then meteora was pretty good, and after that it went downhill.
fall out boy's first album was good, fun music, that you can sing along with and listen to and get happy.
im going to have to go with fall out boy's take this to your grave as the better album than hybrid theory. but all in all, LP is better than FOB, and everyone, please remember
LP without question they seem far more versatile and thier music is more intresting, while FOB kind of all sounds the same.
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LMAO fallout boy.
I didn't even start the arguement. I was innocently adding new songs to my playlist one of which happened to be Thanks For The Memories and then NSM says something about Fall Out Boys sucking so I replied by telling him to ask the community of the internet. And so this thread was born.
Besides that, I'm voting for ACDC and Bon Jovi cuz they're the one's that rock.
I gonna say Linkin Park. I don't like either, but I've been more exposed to Linkin Park. I remember a time when you couldn't watch an amv without hearing Breaking the Habit or A Place for my head. . . I much prefer Muse. . .
S.O.A.D was better then both of them, just sayin
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River Hills - In an effort to squash the advance of the emerald ash borer, public works employees will be removing ash trees from public land, and village officials are putting together information for residents on options for treating or removing their own ash trees.
Adult emerald ash borers feed on the leaves of ash trees and lay eggs on the trunks. Larvae bore through the bark of the trees, develop in the outer sapwood, and eventually chew their way back out as adults to begin the cycle anew.
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"If you have a choice, why not take an ash, because it's going to spread," Village Manager Christopher Lear said.
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Village officials will be putting together and vetting a list of contractors who specialize in ash treatment and tree removal, said Committee on the Environment Chair Larry Boyer, which they hope to distribute in the spring via mailer, hard copy at Village Hall, and the village website.
Boyer, too, anticipates that EAB will wipe out a considerable share of ash trees in the village.
"People don't understand how bad it is," he said. "(Treatment) is really and truly for the specimen trees."
When removing trees, residents can put them out for removal by the village, so long as they follow the rules, Frederickson said. The village ordinance says that piles may be up to six feet by six feet by 20 feet, and are picked up once a month between April and November.
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As most people already said, my favourite one is Escape Frma Lion's Arch. I would like to see LA in ruins after this event and maybe even help rebuild it.
My favorite 'Living Story' moment happened before that term was coined (or at least in use among the players). It was the end of one of the beta events where the Inquest showed up en mass top forcefully kick everybody out for abusing the fast-travel system (it was free for that beta, and has cost coins ever since).
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Last Stand at Southsun was the best LS for me. New map, new and strong opponents, great Last Boss.
More of the same plz.
Queen Jubilee, Queens Gauntlet, last boss Liadri the Concealing Darkness, What a fight! Not only you have to mind where your stepping, but coordinate where to attack and moving to avoid her insta-kill clones, Damn after many tries, eyes bleeding out, i finally had my final waltz with her, and up to this day, i walk with my mini Liadri whenever i go for one of the most entertaining and challenging contents.
And an honorable mention goes to Bazaar of Four wins, that jumping mechanics was lots of fun XD
now: GW2 (11 80s).
Dark Souls 2.
future: Mount&Blade 2 BannerLord.
"Bro, do your even fractal?"
Recommends: Guild Wars 2, Dark Souls, Mount&Blade: Warband, Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning.
As for update content, i loved the bazaar of the four winds, with the map and activities brought, guess that was part of the LS Cutthroat politics? Anyway, loved the map and the mini games, also SAB.
Die die die. Die die, die die die.
- Scarlet Briar, Clockwork Chaos
Tekkie a.k.a. Captain Clownshoes the Originator of Awesome
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