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Skip to comments.As Obamacare Deadline Looms, Doctors are Opting for Cash Only Clinics
Posted on 08/23/2013 1:23:49 PM PDT by NCjim
Physicians across the country are attending seminars that teach doctors how to start their own direct primary care practices. Direct primary care practices take no health insurance, only cash. In a recent survey conducted by the DPMA Foundation, 2 out of 3 doctors say they are just squeaking by or in the red, and 83% say they are thinking about quitting the business. With the looming threat of Obamacare, many doctors are planning to ditch the traditional business model for a more simple and straightforward one.
Dr. Jerome Aya-Ay from Palmetto Proactive healthcare in South Carolina uses the Direct primary care, model which is successful because it eliminates the bureaucratic hassle of insurance and lowers prices for the consumer.
Dr. Jerome Aya-Ay charges his patients via a price list similar to a restaurant menu. He also charges a monthly fee of $60 for routine services which most doctors cannot do. Listen to the interview below.
Chiropractors have been using the cash only business model for many years and are experiencing great success. Dr. Scott Baker, owner of Upper Cervical of Spartanburg, S.C. said, We started to go 100% cash in May 2012 and are experiencing great success, now we are moving into a state of the art facility 3 times bigger than our current venue, and we will be hiring a new doctor. Dr. Scott said he is creating a patient-driven practice. His new clinic will have a health-spa feel with digital touch screens for patient check-ins, flat screens TVs, and a paperless office so he can have more time to focus on his patients.
The Heritage Foundations Ed Haislmaier said, I think we are going to see primary care doctors increasingly moving to a cash-only arrangement, where they opt out of insurance rules. The simple truth is that doctors want to get off the insurance grid not only because of the risky regulations and economic factors, but because they want better relationships with their patients.
Dr. Tom Kendall of Greenville, S.C., a practicing physician and the president of the Association of American Surgeons and Physicians said, Obamacare is not about healthcare, its about control. Obamacare puts the relationship of the patient and physician under the jurisdiction of the government. This means more government control and less patient choice. Under Obamacare, healthcare will be rationed, healthcare costs will increase, and bureaucrats will decide medical treatments instead of the physician and patient.
Upstate doctors who are moving to a direct primary care are creating win-win solutions for medical professionals and their patients. It would be a move from a bureaucracy-driven model which is enamored with red tape and creates a wedge between the doctor and patient, to a patient-driven model with no insurance interference, less government intrusions, and no wasted time dealing with paperwork. It is a model that will create lower fees for patients and will allow doctors to foster better relationships with patients. The real solution to healthcare is to give patients more control over their health care dollars, and unchain doctors from the shackles of government control and regulations.
I would assume the government will not tolerate cash for pay medical services and will demand that they serve anyone who walks in and demands it
The problem is that the patient will still have to purchase insurance. So now you have to pay cash for a doctor and also have to have insurance which you can not use.
Next up - Obama making all doctors part of the government and therefor can't close their business.
and if you pay in cash the price is a lot lower apparently
Is the government going to pay the bills and the rent? If not then the doctors can just make sure to let those lapse.
The building will be owned by the gov't under OBamacare.
My excellent dermatologist told me they would probably have to close the entire operation come ObamaCare implementation.
He is president of the largest medical provider in the city. Hundreds of docs, hospitals, etc. He would just go into private practice. And probably take cash only.
If I need anything done, I should probably get it done by the end of this year, and you should too. Any possible upcoming surgery for the foreseeable future, any condition that might possibly escalate, any health problem that might come up....take care of it NOW.
My doc just told me he is closing shop. new regulations...
I have been telling my wife, look for cash only clinics just across the border in Mexico in the not too distant future. For those who can afford it, look for cash only clinics in more exotic locations.
It will eventually come to that because everyone has a "right" to health care.
ObaMao's next step will be to make FSAs and HSAs far more restrictive in what you can save in before tax dollars and what you'll be allowed to pay for.
Hospital ships. Turn on the operating room when you're 3 or 12 miles offshore. It's got to happen.
They may have to be foreign flagged, but they will be nearby.
There's a history for tolerating things in boats that aren't tolerated on land, like gambling barges in states that don't allow casinos on land. Of course, that's state run, and the problem here is Federal, but you get the idea.
But if you purchase insurance to cover a catastrophic surgery or hospital stay only, it will be much cheaper. You pay for doctor visits and medicine out of your own pocket. Just like you used to.
Yep. It's going to be a mess.
It may drive us toward prevention, however. Watch diets, get exercise, etc, in order to STAY healthy, cuz we'll be in big trouble if we need a doctor.
My doctor asked me how I felt about ObamaCare the other day.
Told him I didn't care personally and I'd pay the fine.
However, I pay cash for meds, visits and everything else, hoping to get to the front of the line not just for my greenbacks but, for a patient who is very proactive in his healthcare.
If it comes down to it, I'll start vacationing at cheaper and better places around the world.
He did ask about hear attack.
I laughed and said "Do we need to discuss the numbers, survival probabilities, possibilities and 7% of people being rescusitated with CPR?....Life is tough Dr. and I will one day no longer exist on this earth but, be with my fellow Christians and family in heaven...maybe..."
He laughed and said "Good outlook".
The doctor doesn't need to hire two or three people to handle insurance claims.
And once that happens, just imagine what their union dues will be.
Indian reservations, too, perhaps, for major procedures.
I should add that I am concerend for a good number of my friends and Americans in general who cannot now afford that decision but am greatly distressed over the lack of choices they will have once ObamaCare is implemented.
Good observation. I can hear it now: "Mohegan Sun... opulent food, exciting gambling, top-rated hip-replacement clinic."
I read a proposal on Slate to set up low cost health clinics on reservations, though they suggested employing foreign born Indians as doctors.
But doctors setting up clinics on reservations would provide local jobs, care and legal protection from Obamacare.
Actually, it has some potential as a gap-filler. You pay the fine and the cash primary care payment and they still add up to less than the "comprehensive" insurance would cost you. Then if you get really sick, you take advantage of the "shall issue" provision in Obamacare and get insurance for the period of your illness. Looks like there'll be a new job market for people to go to the hospital and do "on the spot" insurance sign-ups.
Obama is really sticking it to us.
Hillary's attempt at healthcare made fee for service illegal. I expect Obama's HHS Emporer would deem it the same.
I suspect they will make accepting Obamacare a condition of retaining a medical license. That won't be as obvious as a flat edict and will be handled by the medical boards state by state.
The classic respone I've seen is that doctors who do this and are not affiliated with an insurance practice lose their admitting priveledges at the hospital/s in the area. The hospital boards either buy out the clinic to close it or the doctor goes back to taking insurance in order to retain admitting priveledges.
Next up - Obama making all doctors part of the government and therefor cant close their business.
Yup, Government is like an elephant on a water bed trying to smooth all the bumps out, they keep pressing down on another bubble in the bed only to cause three of four more to pop up, and the damn morons don't realize that if they got OFF the damn bed the bed would itself smooth out....
This idea was first seriously proposed during the New Deal—make all medicine part of a National Health Service. Since Obama has been recapitulating New Deal excesses in most of his initiatives, we can assume that this is his ultimate goal for medical care.
Those who don't want the feds controlling their bodies can pay the "tax" to opt out.
I've said all along that Obamacare is going to create a two-tiered system. One tier will pay to opt out, have doctors who refuse Obamacare patients and will pay their own bills. The other tier will be stuck with whatever health care the feds decide to give them.
My question is if those who opt out can still get a catastrophic-only insurance policy with a high deductible that does not cover all of the stuff in Obamacare.
A REAL reform would:
1) Eliminate ANY rôle for the federal government—because the Constitution gives the federal government no rôle.
1b) Repeal the 16th Amendment. That would eliminate non-taxable "benefits" as opposed to salary.
2) Allow the free market to operate—in which most people would, freely, choose catastrophic health insurance, and pay cash for routine medical care.
3) Any STATE that chooses, can constitutionally assist the poor with their health care or health insurance.
Soetoro has already done that. Parents of disabled children are already being punished, financially, for failing to do the right thing—abort their disabled babies.
No. Catastrophic policies are illegal under BonerCare.
Well the tax penalty in the first couple of years is cheap or cheaper than the insurance but as the years go by the tax is hefty and I believe if I read it right was 2.3% of your income times your family members so that could be hefty in the thousands so any disposable income you might have will be taken away to pay for something you don't even have.
The whole thing is just sad.
Obama even said that when he was debating Hillary in 2008
about the health insurance she wanted. He is such a liar.
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The plan has been read ... it is understood ... thinking men see it cannot work ... so whomever does nothing to actually eliminate ... erase .. obamacare ... WANTS us enslaved and THEY want to be our masters.
Kind of like paying mello roos taxes and sending your kids to private school.
EWWWW that is an image we don't need LOL He better just stick to Reggie instead of us.
Obama will declare a national emergency, reinstate the draft, since no one will stop him. Then he will draft all of the doctors into the military and assign them to whatever hospital he chooses. Refusal to serve will put them in military prisons. Or maybe the camps he's supposedly setting up.
Then, if there is a shortage of doctors, he will draft the nurses and give them authority to perform as doctors.
The rabble will cheer him on, the politicians will be scared to stop him and run for the hills.
Then he will open up government medical schools and bring in the unemployed, give them a bit of training, and then say they are doctors.
He will build new hospitals on the Cuban model (rusty equipment, crap on the floor, toilets that don't flush).
Then the media, who get free passes to the government elite hospitals, will tell us this is a much greater medical system than we ever had, and probably the best in the world.
Don't laugh. He has got away with SO much crap that most people have given up and will just take it.
Awesome. This is what healthcare should be in the first place. It is INSURANCE ITSELF that causes costs to spiral out of control as the burden of care is spread across the whole population.
Let the free market dictate costs and get rid of insurance all together.
If physicians are *allowed* to provide private health care without insurance, Medicare or Medicaid, one more thing is essential to their well being: exemption from Title II of HIPAA.
The Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996.
Title II of HIPAA, known as the Administrative Simplification (AS) provisions, requires the establishment of national standards for electronic health care transactions and national identifiers for providers, health insurance plans, and employers. And *mandatory* compliance with these standards by everyone practicing medicine.
Despite what this says, in practice it means that all doctors must keep patient records in a standardized electronic format that can be accessed at will by numerous government agencies and others.
It totally eliminates the "doctor-patient privilege", and cleared the path for single payer national health care.
N.B.: Many Republicans supported this law, so have to be considered as untrustworthy to oppose Obamacare. They *want* socialized medicine.
In any event, if private physicians, who take neither insurance, Medicare or Medicaid patients, want to continue to be free, they must someone get exemption from Title II of HIPAA.
Great thought—better than casinos!
In my state -- not sure about other states -- insurance will take effect on the first of the next month or, if you apply after the 23rd of the month, coverage will commence on the 1st of the second month following. Much the same as commercial policies currently.
Yes it did, that was on about page 840 of her plan.
I was in the midst of a major problem back then and went to a second doctor for his opinion. I paid out of pocket, and as I did so I told the receptionist that if HillaryCare was in effect (It was still all up in the air) I would be faced with a$10,000 fine for that cash payment I was making and her doctor would be facing 5 years in prison.
She gave me a look of shock, but kept her mouth shut. I don't know if she believed me or not.
Here's how the plan will work - each doctor will charge $1,500 per year per family member ( think 'club membership) - after the annual entry fee's paid, each visit's a flat hundred bucks.
In short, if you're NOT a member of your local exclusive golf club or Yacht Club you won't have access to the best doctors...ever again. And your kids won't either. But the BIGS at the IRS will work out a deal - as will all the other liberal elites... their kids will be protected too... yours - not so much.
"I would assume the government will not tolerate cash for pay medical services and will demand that they serve anyone who walks in and demands it"
That is certainly what happened in several European countries, at least for a while -— although most are now permitting free enterprise.
My docotor is pretty much like that already. Makes house calls, too.
Just kidding... Sorta.
My (once probably what they considered a "cadillac plan" is now useless. I now pay outta pocket for everything up to 6k. My husband just has gall bladder surgery and I joked that it probably will come in at 5999.99.
But for a mello roos don't they have the residents of the neighborhood vote for it before it is initiated since it is specific to a neighborhood?
I was once told that one of my wife's meds was $500 w/o insurance, but only $9 with it. That's insane, but illustrates the problem of being without health insurance.
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Culinary yes-yes #73
They say you never forget your first love. That may be true. But for anyone who's ever entertained for family or friends, you never EVER forget your first kitchen disaster. If it occurs during a holiday, you can automatically double the angst.
A couple years after Kevin & I were married, I wanted to host Easter Sunday dinner. So I asked my Sister-In-Law Bernie if she would mind if they came by us. I foolishly thought that she would be offended to have to give up shopping, planning, preparing, serving, and cleaning up for a dozen people on one of her rare days off during the year.
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I had never made a formal, traditional Easter feast before. Kevin was manning the ham on the grill and made the most incredible marinade for it. Of course we had veggies, Polish sausage, and all the other requirements. Part of those "requirements" included scalloped potatoes. They are a favorite of Kevin and a must-have for his Easter feast:
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It's not in my nature to easily ask for help even when the ship is sinking and I don't have a life jacket. But I saw that there was no way I could accomplish an important side dish without some assistance. Bernie to the rescue! I don't remember if she offered first or if I actually requested she come to my aid.
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Skip to comments.Democrats look for up to $1 trillion in new tax revenues this year
Posted on 01/07/2013 2:38:34 AM PST by Libloather
Democrats say they want to raise as much as $1 trillion in new revenues through tax reform later this year to balance Republican demands to slash mandatory spending.
Democratic leaders have had little time to craft a new position for their party since passing a tax deal Tuesday that will raise $620 billion in revenue over the next ten years.
The emerging consensus, however, is that the next installment of deficit reduction should reach $2 trillion and about half of it should come from higher taxes.
This sets up tax reform as one of the biggest fights of the 113th Congress, which began on Thursday.
Republicans say tax reform should be revenue neutral. Additional revenues collected by eliminating or curbing tax breaks and deductions should be used to lower rates.
Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) has dismissed the possibility of negotiating additional tax increases.
I'm in favor of doing tax reform but I think tax reform ought to be revenue neutral as it was back during the Reagan years. We've resolved this issue, look we don't have this problem because we tax too little. We have it because we spend way, way too much, McConnell said Sunday on NBCs Meet the Press.
Liberal and centrist Democrats say revenues collected through tax reform should go to deficit reduction.
Weve done about $2 trillion. I thought $4 trillion is the goal we should reach. I think were about half way there. We need another $2 trillion, said Sen. Ben Cardin (D-Md.), a member of the Senate Finance Committee, which has jurisdiction over tax reform.
He said the $917 billion cut under the Budget Control Act passed in the summer of 2011 combined with $620 billion in revenues from Tuesdays tax deal and interest savings adds up to about $2 trillion.
Cardin said the ratio of spending cuts to higher tax revenues should be about even in the next deficit-reduction deal passed by Congress.
Sen. Jon Tester, a centrist Democrat from Montana who won a close re-election in November, set out similar parameters.
He said the broad goal for deficit reduction should be in the $4 trillion to $5 trillion range and we should strive for [a] one for one ratio of spending cuts to additional tax revenues.
The White House also supports a 1:1 ratio of spending cuts to tax increases as Congress seeks to finish the fiscal work left unresolved by the recently completed 112th Congress.
White House officials point to last weeks fiscal-cliff agreement to buy down the sequester for two months. The deal delayed the implementation of automatic across-the-board spending cuts to domestic and defense programs and paid for it with $12 billion in revenues and $12 billion in spending cuts evenly divided between defense and non-defense spending.
Administration officials view that as a template for future deficit-reduction agreements.
But Democrats in Congress are not yet unified on the issue. Sen. Tim Kaine, a Democrat who won his first term in Novembers election, said the spending cut-to-tax increase ratio should be higher.
Obviously that second half of the fiscal cliff is the tough spending decisions, he said. During the course of the campaign I often talked about 2-1 as a total. That would count all the spending reductions that have already been agreed to.
I think if youre looking at a 70-30 ratio, somewhere in between 2 to 1 and 3 to 1 , I think thats a reasonable position, said newly-elected Sen. Chris Murphy (D) of Connecticut, who noted he is from a fiscally responsible state.
Like Kaine, Murphy said, you could factor in the cuts already made.
Congress agreed to cut spending by $917 billion in 2011 and to raise $620 billion in additional tax revenues last week, settling on a ratio of roughly 3 to 2 so far.
Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) said Friday the ratio of spending cuts to tax revenues to date has been tilted more heavily toward spending. Counting the 2011 Budget Control Act and the year-end tax deal, he argues the split is closer to $1.1 trillion in spending cuts and $600 billion in revenues but he appears to be counting interest savings from spending cuts and not from tax increases.
The biggest question for Democrats is how much revenue is realistically available through tax reform.
Former Sen. Kent Conrad (D-N.D.), a longtime chairman of the Senate Budget Committee, argues the federal government loses $1.2 trillion a year because of various tax breaks, a large pool for lawmakers to draw from to reduce the deficit.
Through the tax code, we spend more there than we spend through all the appropriated accounts, he said in his Senate farewell speech.
Conrad displayed a chart on the Senate floor Wednesday showing that people in the top 1 percent of income earners collect over $250,000 in after-tax income from tax expenditures. These expenditures are defined as revenue losses due to special exclusions, exemptions or deductions from gross income.
But policy analysts say the amount Congress can raise by eliminating tax expenditures will be constrained by political realities.
President Obamas proposal to limit the value of itemized deductions to 28 percent evoked a backlash from the real estate industry and charitable groups. The mortgage interest and charitable tax deductions are two major drains on federal revenue.
Potential future revenue from limiting exemptions and deductions for wealthy taxpayers is also limited by the personal exemption phase-out and Pease a cap on itemized deductions provisions of the New Years Day tax deal. They account for $152 billion of the projected revenues from the deal.
Jim Kessler, senior vice president for policy at Third Way, a centrist Democratic think tank, thinks the most Democrats can get from tax reform is about $300 billion to $400 billion. He said negotiators can find an additional $100 billion in revenue by switching the chained-CPI formula for calculating cost-of-living increases for Social Security and other federal programs.
I think you get $400 or $500 billion in new revenue because stuff [is] taken off the table, he said.
Of course not. Bringing down a nation is expensive..The cronies who help with that demand big bucks. And, then you have to increase the number of dependents on the government dole so that you can always win elections..Maybe that won't be necessary when we get rid of those pesky elections and just announce that 100% of the people support the present regime. Brace yourselves, folks, without unusual resistance, the worst times in the history of America are coming. Watch LE MISERABLE..That will give you an idea of the good and evil we face.
Pelosi said: "Not to worry......Bernie from Butner called me and assured me he'll make it happen."
"All we have to do is send Bernie a blank check drawn on the US Treasury."
I don't think this is an answerable question. You can look at a hundred years of history...using fifty different countries, and it just can't fix much of anything.
LOL. Hilarious typo.
Message to the 'rats: Go to hades ...
"Are you kidding? One measly trillion? More like two trillion."
"Bernie from Butner assured me, and Nancy, that he is gonna make it happen.
I'm personally cutting a blank Treasury check to Bernie."
" Heck, Bernie's got a tried-and-true formula----he can turn trash into trillions."
Anyone who is actually believes that .gov will cut spending....especially with the dims running the show
is an idiot. Politicians are more addicted to spending
than any heroin/coke/meth addict has EVER been addicted.
No matter how much $$$ they collect it's NEVER even close to
being enough. It's high time we returned to a cleaner, purer, simpler time from our past, round up some tar, feathers, torches and some rope and SOLVE AMERICA'S PROBLEM FOR GOOD.
" Heck, Bernie's got a tried-and-true formula——he can turn trash into trillions."
Do you mean he can turn trillions of dollars into trash?I'll believe that.
That's something this administration's been very successful with.
This of course makes the most sense.
This of course will never happen.
Here's how to TRY to explain it to one of the low-information voters, if you dare...
There are 425 Billionaires in America today. This is NOT their income, this is their total wealth. Only 10 are above $25B. 390 of them are at $1-4B. Their TOTAL wealth is under a trillion (about $770 B). IF you take EVERY penny from all 425, you don't cover this increase... and you have no more billionaires... and NEXT year, you have the same exact shortfall, with no more billionaires to plunder.
Or, you could tax the 70 million who pay no net taxes today $14,000 each.
Or you could tax every working American $7,000 more each.
Any way you put it, that Trillion is going to cause a LOT of pain to America and Americans and American business.
Which seems to be what they want.
"Former Sen. Kent Conrad (D-N.D.), a longtime chairman of the Senate Budget Committee, argues the federal government loses $1.2 trillion a year because of various tax breaks, a large pool for lawmakers to draw from to reduce the deficit."
Kent, you are a lying sack!
If the standard deduction was reduced, those paying no taxes would become taxpayers. The amount of revenue generated by reducing the standard deduction would be considerable
Okay, how about this. A new 5% bracket for the 47% that currently don't pay federal income tax.
LOL——yeah-—the Obamatons are just mini-Madoff's with a US Treasury checkbook. ROTFLOL.
Amen....... those who don't pay are the largest potential source.
The tax is coming, a different tax, a trickle down tax called Cap and Trade. The energy producers pay the tax, raise their prices and it l trickles down to all consumers. It is still progressive in the sense that those who consume most pay most.
The Eurocrats know they cannot raise the income tax rates that are used to purchase votes. They must find another way, a subterfuge, a hidden tax.
Also, when any of the dems begin pointing to former rates and current rates, they never seem to come around to the fact the social security taxes were much lower 30 years ago and there was no medicare before 1965 either. Also, states with income taxes were just getting their feet in the door and since then those rates have gone up along with concomitant sales and real estate taxes.
When one considers all taxes, local state and federal which we are paying, we are almost at the point of 100% taxation. But they still want more. By 2016 when we send in our tax payments, we will have to include a pint or two of blood too I fear.
they want another trillion in addition to the 620 billion for a total of 1.6 trillion....hell they want it all. They want to tax your income at 100%, they want to confiscate your private property and your 401(k) and private pensions too.
The wish to turn you into a serf.
When they claim they have already cut the the deficit by one trillion, they are counting the taxes they just raised on the rich, plus all the hidden taxes they tucked into other bills as deficit reductions.
Conservatives just scratch their head and say ...Huh?
I'm NOT joking, they really think that way!
They also count any tax cut as unfunded spending.
Freeper IbJensen posted: "The Obama regime has constructed an evil, monstrous govt that is the enemy of we, the people....it is illegitimate and operating far outside the parameters of the Constitution.....this evil entity has built up a support of mentally defective imbeciles---disaffected takers and losers---who look upon the regime as cash-rich Big Daddy."
PARA-MILITARY VOTE-CRAZED DEMOCRATS ARE ON THE MARCH Power-hungry para-military Obama/Democrats w/ patented voter fraud know-how have been empowered by 2012. The para-military Democrats worked openly to violently overthrow established rule......using intimidation and assassination to turn out of office those they could not subjugate. Be ready for the a litany of remarks about the invisible and permanent powers-that-be (Repubs/conservatives)mtrying to harm a long list of "govt-dependent losers."
THEY THRIVE ON CHAOS The disturbed Obamatons are creating a dysfunctional chaotic culture, The anti-social psychopaths recognize no moral and ethical boundaries----aggressively going after what they want, irregardless of the consequences. Para-military Dem liberals and progs, are aiding and abetting a cabal of hate-filled individuals----all of them lying in wait to harm conservative/Christian/Constitution-loving Americans. They are a cabal of ruthless predators w/ no empathy for others.
They have no concept of right and wrong---they live in the moment using situation ethics as their lodestar.
PERVERSE CORRUPT DEM THINKING IS REMINSCENT OF THE POST-CIVIL WAR ERA----Carpetbaggers---Northern invaders ----were prominent in Southern politics until 1875, but nearly all left under pressure from paramilitary organizations, then-described in history books as "the military arm of the Democratic Party."
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NOTE: Do not underestimate the wealth of federal cash the para-military Dems ---- the Ohaha/Chi-mob---- can come up with to rig elections. Remember, these are the kingpins of corrupt Chicago politics. At one time, conscientious FEC investigators verified money was coming from legal citizens....but Ohaha will not allow investigations. There are billions unaccounted for in Obama's "stimulus" packages (some used in the last election cycle).....the Ohaha kingpins had tons of money stashed away for 2012....and beyond.
Those "tax breaks" are things like being able to deduct your business expenses, taxes paid to state, county and city, the mortgage interest deduction and of course your 401K.
Yeah, that's the ticket. Spend our way out of debt. Just like the average American family does when the bills are more than the paychecks. Pure Wylie E. Coyote Genius speaking there.
argues the federal government loses $1.2 trillion a year because of various tax breaks'
It there was ANY truth to this statement, then why did Zero refuse to consider closing tax breaks instead insisting on tax INCREASES?
Nothing a liberal says can ever be considered true. Nothing.
Thay are like a wineo,you can never have to much.
Current spending levels are payment for past and future political support. Cutting anything at all pisses off somebody politically connected, and in an era of carefully staged 51-49 elections, that's just too much risk to ask our long-suffering politicians to bear. :)
There's more defecates than ever in the District of Corruption.
How about the invisible tax called the Value Added Tax?
-——How about the invisible tax called the Value Added Tax?——
Sometime in December past, I saw a liberal on Fox News describing in fair amount of detail how Cap and Trade would be implemented. My view was he let the cat out of the bag. He was the only person to speak in terms of the tax being absorbed as cost and passed along to everyone.
Meanwhile, the other Eurocrat voices, and there were several, were simultaneously extolling the virtues of the environmental, clean air, life saving, yada, yada,yada of carbon tax.
My conclusion was that the decision was made and the program was underway to force Cap and Trade through. That is, it was the chosen vehicle for taxing the untaxed masses. A sales campaign was underway.
VAT may be second or third in line.
When you sort through all the clutter, the static, the obsfucation, the solution is pretty clear. Those who have sold their votes for no income taxation are where the money is. Their fair share is set at zero nd that cannot persist. They must be taxed without knowing it.
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Name: --> Terminus
Legend Gaming's 5th Anniversary Video: --> A tribute to our members.
Faction:--> Dominion
Main Timezone:--> US Eastern Time (EST), open to other time zones.
Recruitment Status:--> Recruitment open. Interviews required.
VOIP:--> Teamspeak 3 is required
Guild Focus:--> PvE progression and PvP domination
Guild Leader:--> Dascuba
We are Legend Gaming!
As a multi-gaming community, Legend Gaming has recently completed Five Years of MMO excellence. Since we were founded our chapters have always succeeded in multiple games, promoting a spirit of friendship, unity, organization and quality. As part of Legend Gaming, Terminus seeks to bring that same quality standards to Wildstar. We will focus in all aspects of the game, pushing for PvP domination and PvE competitive progression. Upon joining Terminus, you are not simply joining a guild, you are joining a family. We are an organization that is proud of it's achievements and thankful to the loyalty of our members. We are looking for like minded players who value organization, loyalty, maturity and strong leadership. We will need your skill and dedication in our continued journey to the top!
Some of Legend Gaming's previous chapters achievements include:
Weekly Raiding Schedule:
Will be announced as we move closer to release.
Joining Terminus is quite simple. Visit our website's join us page. Follow the directions at the bottom. We use a forum based application system. We elected to use this system because we believe an applicant whom puts time and effort into the application process is someone whom will put time and effort into the community. Web based applications are too easily accessed and too easily completed. This application cuts out a lot of the "drive by" joiners.
Player vs Environment (PvE)
Like other Legend Gaming chapters, Terminus aims to be among the top guilds in the US and in the world when it comes to raiding progression. The leadership will organize and provide events for both hardcore and casual raiders. Normally, we feature multiple tiers of raiding to accommodate the necessity of our varied player base, creating a range of experiences where pretty much everyone in our roster will be able to take part, if they wish. We always organize our crafters so players dedicated to that game aspect are rewarded with titles and positions within the community, helping the guild move forward by providing vital items or consumables. Be it to participate in progression raids or just to explore all contents of the game more casually, Terminus is a good place to be.
Player vs Player (PvP)
In all of our chapters, we have inspired respect in our allies and fear in our enemies in PvP. The leadership in Terminus have no plans of breaking that tradition. Through organization and dedication, our leadership and membership will hit the ground running when it comes to RvR and PvP in general. With experience from DAoC, we aim for the conquering warplots in Nexus. Terminus's leadership is composed of leaders with over fifteen years of PvP experience. Our leadership and much of our gaming community's membership have experienced some of the harshest PvP environments in gaming. These games include: Shadowbane, Ultima Online, Lineage 1 and 2, Eve Online, and Dark Age of Camelot. Terminus is very excited about Wildstar as it gives us an opportunity to focus on what we love most; GvG. We greatly enjoy a Frontier PvP system (Warplots). We will be pushing the envelope in the PvP realm and will be guiding our experienced membership towards one goal; PvP domination.
Terminus, a guild dedicated to the domination of Nexus, is a Dominion allied guild composed of Mechari, Cassians, Draken and Chua. The story of how Terminus came to be is a bit clouded but from what we can gather the guild was formed around 1400. It is now the year 1600, and Terminus is headed by Skyliss "Exiled" Stormborne. Nexus has changed due to the exploration and inhabitation of both The Exiles and Dominion forces with Terminus leading the charge. Legend-Gaming has always prided itself on organization and lore driven gaming. We feel it elevates the player's gaming experience if he/she is in an environment where they can completely engross themselves into the game and all it has to offer. What makes us unique is our equal focus on Lore, PvP, and PvE. Though we consider ourselves a guild of hardcore gamers, we still embrace the immersion which can come from being in a MMORPG world. We are very excited about Wildstar. It presents an opportunity to start fresh on a plant that has just been explored and prime for domination. The lore of Wildstar is still a bit scarce but that just means it leaves it open for our own interpretation. The story and the world are amazing and very immersive. We feel this world will give our role-players and our lore an amazing experience.
Originally posted by Unseenkilla
If you would like to join the number one guild on whatever server we play, this is the guild for you! Only seriously applicants please!
lmao good luck on that.
We have many people from multiple top tier guilds in WoW, people who have taken world/server firsts, head on over if you are in the same boat; or even if you just want to hang out!
You can even watch our guild leader stream, either way hope we get some more applicants; we've already added another to our ranks -- so good luck!
I don't see a real need to defend or prove ourselves from the likes of you. You think yourself important but I find your content rather lacking. So what I'm typing is to set your misguided behavior straight and inform whom ever is actually interested in our guild.
The majority of our members are highly active, and if you've been in a guild that achieved anything you'd know how important a highly active guild base means. Getting shit done is the business we are in and if you in the other guilds don't like the fact that we will progress harder and faster then you, to bad. Most if not all the main PvE members have been in 40 man raids and know what they are getting into. I'm not aware who holds the WoW firsts in our guild nor do I really care. Experience matters to me, flashly tittles are at the near bottom of that list.
Our Goal is to be the number one guild on our server, and that isn't a cope out because we plan to join servers with other #1 mentalities as well. We are aiming for domination of world firsts and PvP and we are looking for the Best in every genre of gaming. That means RPers, Crafters, Econ, Gatherers, PvE, PvPers and what ever else I didn't include. We also supposedly accept Casuals but I doubt they will be able to keep up unless they are casual by name and hardcore by heart. Somthing me and Exiled somewhat disagree upon.
More then a few of our members were past leaders and officers and have preformed management roles. I have lead guilds and been an officer in many. Your words are hallow and empty, we won't fall and we won't be intimidated by the petty squabbling of some pissant that thinks he something on the internet.
Now, stop cluttering our recruitment topic... Your opinions are noted and moot. I'm seriously hoping your a rather poor example of what the MMORPG community or I honestly will not be looking forward to any recruits we get from here.
Terminus Recruiting.
Originally posted by Sodahz
Originally posted by Unseenkilla
We have many people from multiple top tier guilds in WoW, people who have taken world/server firsts, head on over if you are in the same boat; or even if you just want to hang out! You can even watch our guild leader stream, either way hope we get some more applicants; we've already added another to our ranks -- so good luck!
1) what guilds in WoW and how many people from those guilds I doubt it's "Many"?
2) World first in WoW? That's a lie and to be honest I doubt you have a world first in anything that matters cause RP events don't count in Age of Conan.
3) You guys aren't the number 1 guild so stop posting the crap everywhere if anything it makes your guild have a bad image for being retarded the game isn't out for another 7 months if not longer.
4) Your guild leader is a joke and will fail horrible.
I could go into detail for you. However, as Classix has said, no one in any guild has to justify themselves to you. If you aren't interested, move along. Spewing hate in a thread because you want to start an argument is unbecoming and really only makes you seem juvenile. It seems you feel someone has slighted you, if thats the case, this isn't the best way rectify the situation.
We have a dedicated core of people from various backgrounds with the drive to excel in Wildstar. I have full faith that we will succeed in this goal. I've personally been competitive at the world level in WoW, and hope that the same fierce competitive nature of true hardcore raiding finds its way into Wildstar.
I encourage anyone who wants to be part of a raiding guild to start looking now, if Terminus isn't up your ally there are plenty of other strong groups out there. Find yourself a home to get nested in before all hell breaks loose this fall.
Originally posted by Siphaed
Although I'm not allowed to say "don't join this guild" (because that's 'trolling'), I will instead say to do plenty of research on them. They have a Code of Conduct you have to agree on that is over 8,000 words and 130 paragraphs long. This code of conduct has various things like requirement for events, unquestioning of hierarchy, no friend circles within the group (that's a clique, which can disrupt chain of command apparently), and other rule/regulations of extremity. This group doesn't play the game for fun, but instead treats games as a second [or primary] job; so much so that the on utterance of the word 'fun' in their entire CoC is "...role-play activities will not be made fun of...", not kidding (you can look this up on their website). These things are to help educate people considering joining this group. Just remember to read thoroughly your contract to this guild, which you do agree to being part of (in fact, the last line of their application is that "***The Applicant must agree to the Code of Conduct in order to be considered as a member. By submitting this application, you are agreeing to the Code of Conduct and the conditions within.***" ) That itself is making it a contract.....that you're digitally signing....to play a video game with other gamers...beyond the normal game's EULA. I've provided this post again as educational materials for those wanting to truly understand what it is to be a part of this "select community". Use this educational materials, or do not. That's completely up to you....free will and all,
You seem to be sorely mistaken. I've been a part of them for some months now, never have I felt hampered by rules in the CoC. No part of my existence within the Terminus Chapter has presented a situation where anyone has been punished for anything. We hang out all the time, and its extremely lax and friendly. We give each other hard times jokingly and its all rather natural or organic, there is no shadow of your made up confinement shackling us. I game with them on our various vices while we wait for wildstar, I actively chat in stream and take part in our Tuesday night Wildstar discussions. So my experience within the community is not limited by any means. Nor has it been an issue in any other iteration of the other chapters.
Most of the CoC really doesn't apply to the individual. Most it is to detail how things are run. Trials, Suspensions, Leave, RP (Only if you plan to RP.) PvP (Only if you plan to end game PvP representing the guild, same for PvE). Telling people who the high council are, and what they do. Inter guild diplomacy. What you as an idividual are entitled to as a member (Such as free reign to participate in any type of game play, or join other chapters for other games.) Activity requirements on the forums (7 posts every 14 days, so scary!), and behavior guidelines. (You know that common sense stuff you already do.)
So, in short the CoC puts in detail how every aspect of how the various communities work. It sums up 4 chapters, and all aspects in moderating them in far less than your exaggerated 130 paragraphs. 30, maybe. Its just a condensed version of what every other community puts into 30 stickys in various sub forums.
Cliques do destroy guilds, so I can understand the ruling against that, and nor have I seen one forming in Terminus. Its just not been an issue that has cropped up at all. There are far worse CoC's out there, and every guild with end game in mind has one, usually with far more strict aspects to it.
I actually had to sign a media release form to game with my last WoW guild, because they were extremely popular. They monetized their raid guids and streams as well as their show/podcast about the guild, so in order to participate within the guild, everyone signed a digital release form for use of our likeness, digital or otherwise. (This is also not uncommon at this level of play, nor the first time I had ever encountered it.) Sorry if you find the need for a detailed CoC to be restrictive, though you sign them every single time you game, and every time a game patches. You'd be thoroughly surprised just how often you sign away your rights.
This very forum, in order to post here you signed something similar. So this is really nit picking.
Looks too serious. Where is the gaming?
Originally posted by Letsinod
Looks too serious. Where is the gaming?
Do you play league of legends or rift? Thats what most of us are doing to kill time. You can watch or help me carry Insult. :P Though, I would totally prefer the help.
*Just busting his balls, hes not that bad. Just fun to pick on.*
Home page for the web site could use a monitor for your mumble/vent/ts activity. It just shows potential recruits how active (or inactive) your guild is on a regular basis. Potential recruits can check your web site during their peak play hours, and see how many people are active at that time.
Other than that the site looks pretty sharp.
Originally posted by ragz45
Home page for the web site could use a monitor for your mumble/vent/ts activity. It just shows potential recruits how active (or inactive) your guild is on a regular basis. Potential recruits can check your web site during their peak play hours, and see how many people are active at that time. Other than that the site looks pretty sharp.
Thank you! We have put a lot of work into and this is a great idea that I thought we had in it. I will get on this. Thanks for the input....
and to all those out there that think we are asking for you to sign your life away...I have been in this community for over 5 years and never have I had any kind of problem following our CoC. As synthetic said, you sign away rights every time you sign up for any forums, game, and even software. So the fact that we have something in place PURELY to keep the cohesion of the community and not to strangle anybody in any way is pretty much the normal nowadays. If it's something you're not looking for then we wish you the best luck in your journey to find your home, however I will say one thing that pretty much sums this up "Don't knock it till you try it"
Originally posted by Siphaed
Although I'm not allowed to say "don't join this guild" (because that's 'trolling'), I will instead say to do plenty of research on them. They have a Code of Conduct you have to agree on that is over 8,000 words and 130 paragraphs long. This code of conduct has various things like requirement for events, unquestioning of hierarchy, no friend circles within the group (that's a clique, which can disrupt chain of command apparently), and other rule/regulations of extremity. This group doesn't play the game for fun, but instead treats games as a second [or primary] job; so much so that the on utterance of the word 'fun' in their entire CoC is "...role-play activities will not be made fun of...", not kidding (you can look this up on their website). These things are to help educate people considering joining this group. Just remember to read thoroughly your contract to this guild, which you do agree to being part of (in fact, the last line of their application is that "***The Applicant must agree to the Code of Conduct in order to be considered as a member. By submitting this application, you are agreeing to the Code of Conduct and the conditions within.***" )
Indeed this isnt a mass reqruit guild that spams general chat "Hey join our guild for free" "We are family friendly we are casual/hardcore" etc. This is more of a serious guild that wants you to show some commitment to the community, that what you to show you want to participate. Unlike those mass recruitment "just say yes" guilds we have a an interview and a comprehensive application form. Guess what, History has shown guilds like us tend to last long and achieve a hell of a lot more than those general chat spamming "join us" guilds. So far every single of out recruits is committed and serious about end-game play.
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I was also once baffled at the large CoC, because am the type of person who just clicks the accept box. Kind of makes me wonder how many things I have agreed to in te past without reading. Though the CoC for LG is a bit of common sense. Should you be disrespecting your guild leader? saying things behind his back? quilting mid raids because you are bored? joining another guild on the same server when you already have a very active one? Stealing from the guild vault? -All stuff that is commonsense.
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Click our links and like what you see then fill out an application for Terminus
Yes the CoC looks crazy, I read the whole damn thing...
But you know what, it's really not difficult to follow; we just want to make sure the guild and it's members stay active so we don't just fall off out of no where. Wildstar is forever away, so it's best to make friends and get everyone accustomed to each other.
Anyway, with that said -- it would be awesome to see some more applicants who can join this hard-core tight-knit family.
Originally posted by LG_Exiled
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This, right here! A community, a family; you name it. Come view our forums and see what we're all about -- if you like it, put in an application; we're always looking forward to more serious players who don't just want to laze around till release. We want people who WANT to post in our forums and be active in this great community!
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Posted on 10/03/2010 8:46:27 AM PDT by Abathar
Legendary author and reporter Bob Woodward indicated that former JCS Chairman and Secretary of State Colin Powell might get the nod to replace Robert Gates as Secretary of Defense when Gates leaves in 2011.
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If Powell wants it he will almost certainly get it. It will almost as certainly be a disaster.
Zero trying to get Powell to take over his job as CIC, without the title. Is Powell really that stupid?
Yeah, everything else is just peaches and cream....sh!ts and giggles....when it comes to that JOTUS in the Oval Office.
I would not see this as a positive move.
No it would not be, probably be a disaster IMHO but since when has that ever been a deterrent to Obama?
Would not be surprised
Great! All we need is a yellow turn oat as Sec. of Defense!
Powell is such a hypocrite. He was coddled and brought along by Republicans when he really was nothing special, except an especially good boot-licker. Then he ingratiated himself with media by leaking all the time. He then endorses Bambi only because of race, when McCain was the kind of Republican Powell said the GOP should put forth as a candidate: moderate, works both sides of aisle, etc. McCain was also highly regarded by veterans as a POW. Powell's aide Richard started the whole Valerie Plame blame game which got Scooter Libby jailed and tied down Rove for 2-3 years. Powell is just a POS and he does not deserve any further consideration. But of course so is Bambi, so Powell will probably drive the final nail into our country's defense effort's coffin with a smile on his and Bambi's faces.
"Is Powell really that stupid?"
Sadly, I think maybe he is.
That would say more about Powell than it would about the person who claims to be President. I don't know who, in their right mind, would want to be associated with that administration.
AA queen/gofer/functionary Colin Powell will not get appointed SecDef. In order for Obama to preserve some shreds of credibility with white voters in 2012, some older white guy (willing to play Obama's stooge) like Gates will get the appointment
How about Togo West ?!?!?
Just in case you are wrong, and uhbama knows he owes a payback to the man without a core, and this happens, I feel sorry for our military and in turn, for all of us.
Is Powell really that stupid?>>>>>>>>
CP would lunge for this appointment. This is the collision point for vanity and lust for power and lust to be back in the game. The DC game that is
Gee I thought Wesley Clark would have been a shoo-in.
We need to increase our prayers for our military....seriously!
"No it would not be, probably be a disaster IMHO but since when has that ever been a deterrent to Obama?"
With Stroker, the pattern is that if it's harmful to the country, he'll run with it. SecDef Powell would be as huge a disaster as Robert McNamara in my humble but honest opinion.
Thus, he'll do it.
He's got to energize his base, too.
I was thinking the same thing, Clark is just the kind of a$$hole Obama would love to have there.
I would have thought of him as a good choice, experienced as he is, but since the Scooter Libby episode where he and Armitage lent themselves to Fitzgerald's game (and let an innocent man take the fall knowingly) I've lost what respect I still had for him. The Libby episode was a character test that he and Armitage failed. At least Armitage spoke out in the end, after it was too late to help Libby. Powell never did.
For the best description yet of Colon Bowel, see the excellent post at #10.
Well said and exactly right. I've said it before and I'll say it again, Powell is a man without honor.
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1An iPod and wallet valued at $280 were taken from a woman's locker at the YMCA, 9250 N. Green Bay Road, before 6:45 p.m. April 13. The locker was not damaged.
2Items valued at over $5,000 including a washer and dryer, a dresser and clothing were reported taken from a storage locker in the 4200 block of W. Hawthorne Trace Road April 14. The locker was last checked about four months ago.
3Items valued at over $10,000 including jewelry were taken from the 5000 block of W. Wabash Avenue between 1 and 3 p.m. April 15. Forced entry was made to a back door.
· A woman, age and residence not released, was arrested for disorderly conduct/domestic violence related after she slapped, scratched and bit her ex-husband at 10:15 a.m. April 16.
4Items valued at over $2,000 including costume jewelry and a 42-inch flat screen TV were taken from the 5400 block of W. Churchill Lane between noon and 4 p.m. April 16. A back door was forced open to gain entry.
5Items valued at over $300 were taken from Bath and Body Works, 9096 N. Green Bay Road, about 5:30 p.m. April 17. Two women and a man entered the store and one took the items while the others distracted employees.
6A woman, age and residence not released, was arrested for battery/domestic violence related, criminal damage to property and disorderly conduct at Applebee's, 9080 N. Green Bay Road, at 10:15 p.m. April 17. The woman began throwing items around the restaurant including silverware and china. She also hit a man in the face and broke a light fixture above her table.
7A female, age and residence not released, was arrested for ID card violation after attempting to buy alcohol with a fake ID card at Applebee's, 9080 N. Green Bay Road, about 10:20 p.m. April 17.
8A boy, age and residence not released, was arrested the evening of April 18 for theft of a $600 iPhone taken from a locker at the YMCA, 9250 N. Green Bay Road, about 4:20 p.m. April 18. The theft was caught on surveillance video and the boy was recognized as being involved in previous incidents.
9A man, age and residence not released, was arrested for drunken driving and speeding 64 mph in a 30 mph zone in the 8600 block of N. 60th Street and finally stopped on W. Brown Deer Road at 1:45 a.m. April 19. His BAC was 0.18.
10A man, age and residence not released, was arrested for lewd and lascivious behavior after a woman reported him masturbating in his car in the Pick 'n Save lot, 9200 N. Green Bay Road, at 1:15 p.m. April 19. The man had asked the woman for directions and as she was trying to help him, she saw that his pants were unzipped and he was touching himself. The man, who admitted the incident, had been arrested previously for the same offense.
· A resident reported fraudulent use of her credit card number after receiving a letter from a collection agency April 20 saying she owed Bright House Network, an Indianapolis cable company, $657. Police called the resident receiving the cable service and got an answering machine saying she "was not taking calls at this time."
11Items valued at over $4,500 including a Think Pad laptop, an Apple iPad and luggage with clothing and travel items were taken from a locked car at River Point Shopping Center, 8755 N. Port Washington Road, about 12:25 p.m. April 24. The theft was caught on surveillance video showing a person with a crow bar breaking a window causing $800 damage.
12A 28-year-old Milwaukee man was arrested on a felony charge of making a bomb threat/scare at Glendale Plastics Inc., 2609 W. Mill Road, April 17. The man called in threats on both April 9 and April 16. The building was evacuated and searched on those dates and no bombs were found.
13A 31-year-old Milwaukee woman was arrested for theft and possession of cocaine outside Kohl's, 5650 N. Bayshore Drive, at 6 p.m. April 16. The woman, who took a $33 watch, fled the store and was found sitting in a car with a baggie with .3 grams of cocaine in plain sight.
14A 31-year-old Milwaukee man was arrested for theft of batteries, baby formula and deodorant valued at $202 at Pick 'n Save, 1735 W. Silver Spring Drive, at 7 p.m. April 16. The man put the items into a bag and left the store where he was confronted by loss prevention employees. He then struggled with the employees and when police arrived, he continued to struggle until police used a taser on him.
15Two 17-year-old boys of Fox Point and Glendale and an 18-year-old man, residence not released, were arrested for trespassing and criminal damage to property in the 6800 block of N. Range Line Road at 8:45 p.m. April 16. A neighbor saw them kick in the front door and enter the home. They fled but were found sitting in a car about a block away. They told police they went there to visit a friend.
16Two Glendale men, 21 and 22, were arrested for maintaining a drug traffic house, possession of marijuana, possession of psilocybin mushrooms, prescription pills and drug paraphernalia, including packaging materials, after a search warrant was served in the 5200 block of N. 26th Street at 5:45 a.m. April 18. The Milwaukee Count Swat Team was involved in the search. Also recovered were guns including a .45 caliber handgun and a shotgun. The men also had two pit bulls.
17A 30-year-old Milwaukee man was arrested for substantial battery and trespassing after he used a broken coffee mug to cut a woman in the 2800 block of W. Mill Road at 11:50 p.m. April 19. The man, who also injured himself, fled after attacking the woman and entered a home in the 6400 block of N. Range Line Road. The residents heard the man screaming and found him on the floor of the mud room and called police. The woman was taken to a hospital and required stitches for her injuries.
18Two 15-year-old Milwaukee boys were arrested for battery after punching a man in the head in the 5600 block of N. Milwaukee River Parkway at 4:50 p.m. April 20. The man reported the boys were running toward him as he walked east on Silver Spring Drive. After they ran past, he turned onto the parkway where they attacked him. The boys were caught a few blocks away saying they "were playing a game" and hit the man "for fun."
19A 19-year-old woman and a 21-year-old man of Milwaukee were arrested for disorderly conduct after they began fighting in the lobby of LaQuinta, 5423 N. Port Washington Road at 8:50 p.m. April 20.
20A 25-year-old Milwaukee man was arrested for burglary from Subway, 5464 N. Port Washington Road, overnight April 20 or 21. An employee called police after he came to work and found the cash drawer empty. The incident was caught on surveillance video which showed the man, who was recognized as a former employee, taking more than $200. He was arrested at his home April 21.
21A 20-year-old Glendale woman was arrested for underage drinking and possession of drug paraphernalia after a report of a woman having "seizures" in the 2100 block of W. Good Hope Road at 2:40 a.m. April 21. The woman, who admitted drinking, did not require medical attention. A pipe, foil, chore boy and a baggie all with marijuana residue were found in her backpack. She and a male admitted smoking the drug earlier.
22Power tools, value not available, were taken from a garage in the 4900 block of N. Port Washington Road April 20 or 21. The garage door was kicked in to gain entry.
23A work bag and contents valued at $250 were taken from a van in the 3100 block of W. Green Tree Road about 11 a.m. April 21.
24A 33-year-old Mukwonago man was arrested for theft of a vacuum cleaner and a blender valued at $400 from Kohl's, 5650 N. Bayshore Drive, at 4:25 p.m. April 21. The man was seen grabbing the items, putting them into a cart and attempting to flee the store. He was stopped and police were called.
No reportable incidents this week.
25A Shorewood man, age not released, was arrested for possession of drug paraphernalia after he called police to report that his 42-inch LCD TV valued at $300 had been taken during a burglary in the 3900 block of N. Murray Avenue between 10:45 a.m. and 5:50 p.m. April 21. Police came to the residence and saw, in plain view, heroin drug paraphernalia including syringes and tourniquets.
26A female student was cited for theft after taking a wallet and headphones from a teacher's purse at Shorewood Intermediate School, 3830 N. Morris Blvd., about noon April 22. After the theft was discovered, students were informed and the girl came forward saying she found the items.
27An employee reported a disorderly male at the BP Station at1513 E. Capitol Drive at 7 a.m. April 23. The male ordered two donuts which were handed to him and then he attempted to pay with a $100 bill. When told the store could not accept the bill, the man threw the donuts at the employee and began yelling profanities. He fled before police arrived.
28An armed robbery was reported at Hayek's Pharmacy, 4001 N. Downer Avenue, at 9:08 a.m. April 26. A male entered the store with a black revolver and demanded a type of prescription medication, which he took, and fled the store. What was taken and its value were not yet available.
29A male, age and residence not released, was arrested for drunken driving and speeding 46 mph in a 30 mph zone in the 4700 block of N. Lake Drive at 9 p.m. April 21. His BAC was 0.10.
30A dryer vent was damaged and two window well covers taken, total loss about $36, from the rear of an apartment building in the 400 block of E. Henry Clay Street sometime March 22 to April 21.
· Over a dozen cars were entered, most unlocked, and a Samsung Galaxy Phone was taken from one, a gas card from one, ear buds with microphone from another and small amounts of change were taken from the rest in the following blocks April 21 or 22: 4900, 5000 and 5300 N. Diversey Blvd., 4800, 5200, 5300 and 5400 N. Berkeley Blvd., 5000 N. Bay Ridge Avenue, 5500 N. Shoreland Avenue and 2200 E. Glendale Avenue.
31A man, who "suffered a medical emergency" — a seizure — was injured after driving his car at "excessive speed," hitting a tree and flipping over in the 6300 block of N. Santa Monica Blvd. at 4:30 p.m. April 22. He was taken to a hospital by Flight for Life.
32Two Beretta handguns, valued at $400 and $600, were reported taken from the 700 block of E. Henry Clay Street at 3 p.m. April 22. The date of the theft was listed sometime August 2013 to March 2014.
33A woman, age and residence not released, was arrested for drunken driving and failure to stop in the 4700 block of N. Oakland Avenue at 3:40 a.m. April 23. Her BAC was 0.14.
34A boy was arrested for theft from Jimmy Johns, 106 W. Silver Spring Drive at 11:35 a.m. April 23. The boy grabbed someone else's sub sandwich valued at $5 and fled the store but was stopped.
35A Giant Cypress 15-speed bicycle valued at $350 was taken when left unattended and unsecured for just minutes outside Sendik's, 500 E. Silver Spring Drive at 11:40 a.m. April 23.
36A man, age and residence not released, was arrested for possession of 2 grams of marijuana after a report of two men in a car smoking marijuana which was weaving in traffic on E. Silver Spring Road at N. Lake Drive at 6:15 p.m. April 25. The men were found in the car at Klode Park, 5000 N. Shore Drive and one was arrested.
· Firefighters responded to 114 calls — 72 emergency medical and 42 fire/rescue — from April 21 to April 27.
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