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Skip to comments.The Rottweiler bares her teeth: Awkward Michelle and French First Lady Valerie Trierweiler
Posted on 05/21/2012 8:36:41 PM PDT by traumer
The U.S. and French First Ladies couldn't hide their awkwardness as they posed for photos ahead of a youth centre visit in Chicago.
Michelle Obama wrapped with one arm around the waist of Valerie Trierweiler and with the other she gripped the French First Lady's hand tightly.
Towering above Miss Trierweiler, Mrs Obama was very much in control. She didn't loosen her grip as she turned to embrace the French President's partner, placing her other hand on Miss Trierweiler's back to pull her closer.
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
Those are not pretty pictures.
Michelle looks lovely
Mickey's embrace of Trierweiler is completely inappropriate. However, her outfit is not as bad as most.
She's definately better dressed than usual.
Left wing Socialists are ugly.
that is such a horrible picture, it almost looks like sexual harassment
moochelle definitely had her way with the French president's wife. Kinda like a pitbull grabbing a steak
Yeah, that was my first thought on seeing the pics: "What the hell is that house-frock that woman is wearing? Not often you see someone worse dressed than the First Wookie."
For a Wookie.
Ummm - the Lady form a country famous for high fashion needs better undergarments - and the dress looks it came off the bargain rack at WalMart.
the hemline is wrong for her legs - and someone needs to teach her how to stand.
Maybe moo-chell is hanging onto her for pics because she realizes, for once, she's next to a lady who is frumpier than her. She actually looks nice/
French *First Lady*?
Lady? I think not...she's a mistress.
Good to see somebody is giving her better fashion advice.
H/T Nutmeg
Valerie Trierweiler
pronounced TreeAyErVayLer or simply "la Rottweiler"
French First Lady? Sounds more like Mme de Pompadour, or Mme du Barry, official Mistresses to French monarchs.
It gets worse! Twice married and divorced, she left hubby #2 in 2005 for Hollande. They were living together in 2007 when he was still with Segolène Royal who ran against Sarko for President, and lost.
Now Valérie is out in the open, with an ego as big as Moochelle-Antoinette, but a smaller caboose.
And, as the photos show, she is no Carla Bruni, beautiful and discreet. She is a loudmouth pushy dame with a lot of plastic surgery.
Now we can watch the circus and soap opera play out in France!
Former Live- in gal pal, Segolène Royal hates new live in girlfriend, Valérie Trieweiller aka Rottweiller, fancies herself First Lady of France.
Hollande has four children with Royal, whom he refused to marry, saying marriage is a bourgeois institution.
He has moved onto the Presidential palace with a woman who is not his wife, and expects the entire world to accept it.
Couldn't agree more about Valerie's outfit.
Totally inappropriate- dress cut way too low (cleavage is definitely not diplomatic). As to undergarments, old Val is really chunky and wide around the middle. Also, shoes way too kinky with heels way too high. As it is she towers over her little king (5'3).
Compare to Carla who was always appropriately and impeccably turned out fir the WIFE of the French president.
Reminds me of Elaine's Christmas card photo on Seinfeld.........Remember "nip"?
What a stinker.
Her Majesty clearly prefers to be photographed with other black people.
At least the Wookie wasn't wearing a tablecloth.
YUK!! It looks like they are going to kiss each other on the mouth!!! YUK!!
That's what she should have worn when she gave the tour of the White House to the other wives - Not the purple party dress.
Wookies have been known to eat friends in times of duress.
Calling Mrs. Obama a Rottweiler is an insult to Rottweilers. I live across the street from a Rottweiler and he's a big, furry, incredibly sweet 115 pounds of happy dog, who nevertheless would kill and die to protect his owner and her one-year-old daughter. I wouldn't count on Michelle having that same level of loyalty. (And I certainly wouldn't want to pet her.)
I kinda take these images as a show of domination on the
Wookies part
There are also pictures of the Wokie grabbing Taylor Swift and
all but kissing her on the lips
The White House has been taken over by evil people
Didn't Rottweiler refer tot he French mistress?
But wait, WAIT!
The French are so much more chic, sophisticated, well-bred, eat better, healthier, better educated than we Puritanical, money grubbing, ill-mannered, slovenly Americans....
When they lose their country to the Moooslims and can't afford the wine and life style, we'll see who is smarter....
Totally agree...
When I saw that cocktail dress on the Daily Mail online in contrast to what the other ladies were wearing, I thought once again that Moochelle got her celebrity groove on, Chicago-style...ugh.
Now we can watch the circus and soap opera play out in France!
Former Live- in gal pal, Segolène Royal hates new live in girlfriend, Valérie Trieweiller aka Rottweiller, fancies herself First Lady of France.
I say that this is going to be fun to watch. I can imagine a campaign of leaks played out in the press that will be amazing to see transpire.
I'm liking MO's clothes in these pics. She looks nice.
However France's first lady certainly looked frumpy....good grieve for a first appearance among first ladies she could have pulled it together with some style. Awful presentation!
It's Valerie Trierweiler who is known as "the Rottweiller" also a play on her name, because she is so aggressive pushy, not to mention the dog face.
François Hollande is pro- gay marriage and homosexual adoption, something the French people have overwhelmingly rejected in every single poll since began in France.
Hollande made a campaign promise to make them both legal in France.
This is how socialism works, going against the will of the people and putting in place his own radical ideology.
Sadly it appears the peoples will has spoken in electing to support these issues when they voted in Hollande. Same as when Obama was voted in. Both will do and continue doing exactly what they have said they'd do before they were elected.
First the US was a Republic..then Democracy....now going socialist....what follows is Communism.
The world is on this path step by step...nation by nation.
I heard Carla had an affair with Hollande before she got together with Sarkozy.
Don't Belueve everything you "hear"
Carla did have a fling with firmer French Prime Minuster, Laurent Fabius, now Munister of Foreign affairs.
This was in the early 2000's and Carla was single. Her marriage to Nicolas Sarkozy is her only marriage.
Disagree. No matter what, the French lady is much, much prettier. And I think her lower legs look nice, though they could be packaged better.
It does appear everything cycles one way or another. I do fear for our country...it will take more than a Presidential Election to stop this trajectory...not to mention so many of our politicians are on board with the Globalist Agenda and they aren't being truthful with the people about this and how deep we are already involved. Hillary and Billy boy have spent most of thier time abroad ...and this with reason. Hillary doesn't have to be President to accomplish her agenda...she's actively been doing this now for years. CW
It does appear everything cycles one way or another. I do fear for our country...it will take more than a Presidential Election to stop this trajectory...not to mention so many of our politicians are on board with the Globalist Agenda and they aren't being truthful with the people about this and how deep we are already involved. Hillary and Billy boy have spent most of thier time abroad ...and this with reason. Hillary doesn't have to be President to accomplish her agenda...she's actively been doing this now for years. CW
Took a quick look at the pics, at the link.
Below the "belt" in suits & dresses, horizontally, they appear Very Much Aligned in mass at least! :-)
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"Bought this for Hawaii trip. Can't beat the sale price. The only issue is it does not come in half sizes. I am a 6 1/2 but ordered a 7."
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Location: northampton
September 17, 2013
"very cute shoes, however i cant wear them for long periods of time because they have no support."
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Lost Trail Cabins are fully furnished cabins located at the end of a dead-end road on 62 acres of private and secluded property. Bordering Shawnee National Forest in beautiful Southern Illinois less than three miles from the Johnson Creek Recreation Area of Kinkaid Lake, these cabins are perfectly situated between the Sparta World Shooting Complex and the Shawnee Wine Trail. They cater to all outdoor enthusiasts including equestrians, hunters, hikers, boaters, fishermen, and anyone just wanting to get away from their fast paced everyday life.
They offer clean, comfortable accommodations at a reasonable rate whether you stay for a night or the entire week, they treat you like family.
The Stone House Bed and Breakfast
A choice of three guest bedroom await you as well as a private sitting parlor with firesplace; two larges porches with Mississippi River view. Full breakfast served in formal dining room.
46 rooms, non-smoking, handicapped accessable, credit cards accepted, cable television available, outdoor pool, a whirlpool and fitness room, pets accepted, lounge/bar on premises, and complimentary breakfast served
Stay at this Du Quoin Hotel offering " a small town touch with large city amenities" Located adjacent to the Du Quoin State Fairgrounds. The Fairgrounds Inn is situated in the heartland of Southern Illinois Illinois. Adjacent to Du Quoin State Fairgrounds with easy access to Southern Illinois University, Southern Illinois Center, Illinois State Police Headquarters and Sparta World Shooting Complex. The hotel's proximity to Pyramid State Park and Rend Lake make it an Ideal Spot for guests to enjoy a variety of outdoor actives.
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Country Settings Bed & Breakfast
This small town get away is perfect for your need to just get away and relax or to spend time with that special someone. Relax in the jetted tub or gaze at the stars on the spacious patio. Maybe enjoy a walk down the peaceful lane and let the sound of the country take you in.
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Francie's Inn, a Bed & Breakfast Inn where warmth and an inviting atmosphere await your arrival! DuQuoin's first "B&B", the Inn is the place for a perfect getaway vacation, a romantic adventure or business retreat. Over-night guests are served a full, hot breakfast in the beautiful, formal dining room.
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Fort Kaskaskia State Historic Site (Ellis Grove)
Open year round with 50 camp sites
CITY:Ellis Grove
Welcome to the Americas Best Value Inn- Murphysboro, which is located in the heart of beautiful Jackson County. We are just west off of I-57, approx. 20 miles to Carbondale. We are a newly remodeled property with a clean and comfortable home feeling.
If you like to fish, enjoy the beautiful outdoors, for boating, hiking, relaxing rent a cabin that puts you right on the edge of beautiful Kinkaid Lake, Muskie fishing at your fingertips!
The Reece Ridge Luxury Cabin is an open, spacious, beautiful secluded home. It is tastefully decorated in a lodge decor, with comfortable furnishings. The cabin is peaceful and serene surrounded by wooded forest full of wildlife. Step into the great room, featuring a large wood burning fireplace and groove vaulted ceilings and walls. Windows provide natural light and awesome views of the surrounding area. The well equipped kitchen and dining room enjoys the same views. The large, open front porch has a swing and rocking chairs where you can listen to the trees quake in the wind and enjoy a morning cup of coffee.
Mudline Lodging Cabin, RV & Campsite Rental in Southern Illinois is one of the closes rentals to Kinkaid Lake and in the heart of Southern Illinois in a quiet country setting. We currently have 1 fully stocked Cabin (Whitetail), 1 Rental RV (Fully stocked) & 1 full hook-up Campsite. Mudline Lodging is the perfect location for your Hunting, Fishing, Family Vacation, Romantic Weekend, or Girls Get-A-Way. We are able to fit your every need.
breakfast included, non-smoking rooms available
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Formerly Fountain Motel, Right On the Way and Right On the Money, Mainstreet Inn, in Downtown Pinckneyville, Has Been Locally Owned and Operated for 26 Years., We Are Quiet, Clean and Safe,...
Welcome to the Super 8 Pinckneyville. We offer 47 Rooms, as well as Indoor heated Pool, Banquet Facility for up to 75 persons, Interior Corridors, 27 inch Televisions, Exercise Room, Free local calls.
The Oxbow Bed & Breakfast was built in 1929, and the Doughtys purchased the land in 1959. After renovations the large brick veneer home has sixteen rooms for a total of 6900 square feet of living space on three levels. The Inn sits on ten acres of rural land about one mile south of Pinckneyville, a town of 5,000 people. The house was converted into a Bed and Breakfast and now also includes two barns. The Oxbow Barn Apartment (the Honeymoon Suite) offers the most private quarters available at Oxbow. The Shannon Barn is for the use of all Oxbow guests and includes a hot tub and a roomy loft. The Oxbow house shelters five rooms for rent which are named after the people and events of the Civil War.
This motel offers 47 rooms with an indoor pool and a banquet facility for up to 75 people. Jacuzzi suites and suites with two king beds are available. Pets are welcome for a $10 fee per night. Free continental breakfast and high-speed internet.
12 room motel with country atmosphere.
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39 room hotel, handicap accessible, credit cards accepted, cable television, small meeting rooms, outdoor pool, restaurant within walking distance, complimentary breakfast.
32 room hotel, credit cards accepted, outdoor pool.
28 room motel, credit cards accepted, cable television. restaurant witnin walking distance.
Ideally located 2 miles from historic downtown Sparta, our friendly Sparta accommodations offer travelers easy access to a number of local businesses, restaurants and attractions. Just minutes from our hotel near downtown guests can tour the Misselhorn Art Gallery, attend events at the Randolph County Fairgrounds or watch a tournament at the World Shooting and Recreational Complex. Visitors can also enjoy local restaurants. During your visit to Sparta, enjoy the free, wireless Internet access & complimentary breakfast bar. On-site amenities such as a heated indoor pool & whirlpool, 24-hour Business Center, a well-equipped Fitness Center & 24-hour convenience store are also provided for your convenience. Consider our Sparta hotel's choice amenities and excellent rates as you start planning your trip today.
The Cozy Corner Bed and Breakfast wants to provide our guests with every comfort during their stay in Sparta, Illinois. We are located 55 miles of St. Louis with an array of activities and attractions to enjoy. All rooms include their own private bath, hot homemade breakfast, complimentary beverages and snacks, in-room satellite TV, use of the hot tub and pickup from the local Sparta airport. We look forward to your visit and hope to make many new friends.
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Naturalizer Adena Oxford
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Take on the day in the Naturalizer Adena! This comfortable yet stylish oxford will keep you moving!
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By: ReneeBags
Location: Illinois
April 22, 2013
Very Comfortable
"I first purchased these shoes in black for an upcoming trip to Europe. I've been wearing them before to make sure they're comfortable, and broken in. I just bought another pair in white. I wear an 8 1/2 or 9 in most shoes, and these are a perfect fit in the 8 1/2. The black looks casual with jeans, but not overly sporty, and the white I think will be cute with capris for the spring and summer and all the walking I will be doing. They're a supportive shoe, but not bulky or too heavy for traveling, and very comfortable. Very happy with these shoes."
By: flatandwide
Location: New York City
April 11, 2013
Adena vs. Anva
"I bought the Anva first and loved it. I couldn't get it in Wide, so ordered it 1/2 size larger than usual and it was very comfortable but only lasted about a year. Next I ordered this one (Adena), which looked sturdier because it has more leather and less mesh. However, it isn't as comfortable -- I can feel each seam inside and have to wear thin socks or it's too tight."
By: sasschu
Location: Chicago
March 15, 2013
Traveling Shoe
"when commuting with my own two legs these shoes are a great companion for my feet day in and day out"
By: surfaceofthesun
Location: Phoenix
March 08, 2013
super comfortable for sales associate
"These shoes are very comfortable. I can wear them all day or night at work. They offer support, cushioning, and are sturdy. They are perfect for wearing with pants."
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The Hilton Melbourne Beach Oceanfront hotel in Melbourne, Florida is located on the beautiful beaches of Florida's Space Coast. All 200 of our rooms offer complimentary high-speed Internet and a private balcony affording stunning views of the Atlantic coastline. Located in the beachside city of Indialantic, Florida, the Hilton Melbourne Beach hotel is newly renovated and boasts a classic Florida ambiance. From the moment you walk into the lobby of our Melbourne, FL hotel, you will encounter our beautiful atrium with its floor-to-ceiling glass panels showcasing a panoramic view of the Atlantic Ocean. Relax and experience the Beach Lifestyle.
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Bally Kapumo Suede Lace Boot
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With unsurpassed style and innovation, Bally's footwear collections are based upon a commitment to craftsmanship and attention to detail. The casual style of this suede boot makes it the perfect addition to your shoe collection.
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: I had this same issue in a rental unit I maintain. I had bought the toilet and installed only four months before and it kept backing up. I went back to Home Depot and returned the 4 month old toilet and exchanged for a better, more expensive toilet (Home Depot was great--didn't hassle me at all). After I reinstalled the new toilet, I still had the same overflowing problem. I decided to get serious about the problem and called a plumbing technician out to scope the line with a video camera before he augered. I'm glad he did because it saved me many years of trouble and wasted money. He found an underground utility line had be shot through the main line to the sewer. Apparently the utility companies have a way to "shoot" their lines through the soil without digging. They forgot to have my yard surveyed for pipes, etc. and accidentally skewered my line. All sorts of debries was hanging up on that line and the plumber told me that his auger would have slid right under it because it cut through the top part of the main line. The scope only cost $80 and the utility company ended up paying for all repairs, plus a little extra for the hassle.
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A bona fide high-wire act, "Cirque du Soleil: Worlds Away" delivers towering thrills through its candy-colored 3D ode to the titular outfit's astounding acrobatics.
A bona fide high-wire act, "Cirque du Soleil: Worlds Away" delivers towering thrills through its candy-colored 3D ode to the titular outfit's astounding acrobatics. The only thing missing from exec producer James Cameron's three-ring circus is the sense of danger that comes with the daredevil troupe's live perfs, as even the slightest misstep obviously would never have made the final cut of this impeccably polished pic. Upbeat buzz among Cirque fans and newbies alike should result in a long-legged holiday run for Paramount, even though, at 91 minutes, the ultimately eye-straining extravaganza leaves one feeling that slightly less might've been more.Working best as pure audiovisual spectacle akin to the classic climax of "The Red Shoes," writer-director Andrew Adamson's compendium of highlights from seven Cirque productions strains to deliver a story through its use of a doe-eyed audience surrogate (Erica Linz) who wanders into a carnival, falls in love at first sight with the hunky Aerialist (Igor Zaripov), and dances only near the end. Yet this clunky framing device seems a small price to pay for the pic's uncommonly surrealist vibe, rendered through a kaleidoscopic combo of circus, samurai, yoga, ballet and Busby Berkeley influences, plus a stirring medley of Beatles tunes. Playing straight woman to Cirque's cast of screwball gymnasts, the diminutive Linz looks fetching, but spends most of the film silently staring at the crazy movement all around her. The minor intrigue over whether and how Linz will get into the act is eventually resolved in an aerial pas de deux with Zaripov that's lovely to behold but decidedly lacking in sexual heat, as befits a film designed to attract a more family-oriented audience than that for Cirque's steamier stage work. Some of the troupe's most spectacular feats of derring-do take place on what looks like a giant pachinko board suspended from on high. One death-defying acrobat somehow balances atop a spinning Ferris wheel-like contraption, while another hangs from a giant umbrella. In an undersea segment set to the Beatles' "Octopus's Garden," troupe members make like floating jellyfish. Impressively, "Worlds Away" hardly rests on the Cirque members' freakishly limber contortions alone, as moody lighting, sweeping cinematography, elaborate sound design and Adamson's judiciously sparing use of digital effects combine to create a fully immersive experience. Brett Turnbull's exceptional 3D lensing generally declines to thrust the acrobats into the viewer's lap, focusing instead on a depth of field so minutely mapped that background swirls of fog and splashes of water begin to appear as carefully choreographed elements on stages of their own. All technical elements of the mammoth production are topnotch. Music is expertly mixed, although a lone Elvis Presley tune has found its way in among the pic's string of Beatles songs.
Cirque du Soleil: Worlds Away
A Paramount release and presentation with James Cameron of a Cirque du Soleil production, in association with Reel FX, Strange Weather, Cameron/Pace Group. Produced by Martin Bolduc, Andrew Adamson, Aron Warner. Executive producers, Cameron, Jacques Methe, Cary Granat, Ed Jones. 3D executive producer, Vincent Pace. Directed, written by Andrew Adamson.
Camera (color, HD, 3D), Brett Turnbull; editors, Sim Evan-Jones, Dirk Westervelt; music, Benoit Jutras; art director, Guy Barnes; sound (Dolby Digital, dts), Ed Novick; re-recording mixers, Michael Hedges, Gilbert Lake; visual effects supervisor, Matt McDonald; visual effects, Reel FX, Evil Eye, Reliance, ICO; stunt coordinator, Allan Poppleton; assistant director, Iain Patrick. Reviewed at Tokyo Film Festival (opener), Oct. 20, 2012. Running time: 91 MIN.
Erica Linz, Igor Zaripov, Lutz Halbhubner, Dallas Barnett, Matt Gillanders, John Clarke.


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Heidi Klum for New Balance 420 Retro Sneaker - Womens
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Retro-inspired design has been updated with a super stylish look in the women's New Balance Heidi Klum 420 sneaker! This low-top lace-up has a suede and printed nylon upper and was chosen by Heidi Klum with hand-picked colors and a design she approved.
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LIVE BLOG... from the Draft floor
Jason Gregor
June 26 2009 10:51AM
11:00 am MST
It pays to get up early some days.
Because I got my accreditation late I wanted to make sure everything was still good, so I hoofed it to the Bell Centre. I wasn't on the list, which I expected, but once I showed my card I got my mug shot. I now work for the TEAM 1250, not 1260. It's a better keepsake that way.
There are seven rows with 14 seats in the media riser, and with so many media present, I fully expected to be in the overflow seating in section 12;, until I ran into Julie in the NHL PR. We chatted and I found myself in row seven on the media riser. I have a perfect view of the draft floor and it will be much easier to write on a table rather than using my knees as a make shift table. Julie is all class, and she gets another Nation shout out. I'd send the picture, but I'm an idiot and forget the cord to transfer pics from camera to computer. I'll have them when I get home.
It's the calm before the storm right now. It's noon and slowly the media is trickling in. I ran into some people as I was walking here and here's what I got.
- Heatley talk is at a stand still right now. The Sens want a lot, and most teams aren't willing to pony up. Heatley's agent, JP Barry and his CAA branch are taking a beating in the papers right now. Pundits are claiming it was irresponsible of them to leak the story, because it makes it harder to deal him. CAA is adamant they didn't leak the story, and feel it was probably Sens GM Bryan Murray, and then he could make Heatley look like the bad guy. This situation might get even uglier. I think the CAA camp has a legitimate beef. If the Sens don't make a deal before July 1st and pay Heatley the $4 million he is owed then many expect Murray to play hard ball and force Heatley to come to camp.
- Many wondered if Kevin Lowe could have gotten more for the Human Rake if he had played hardball. I'd like to see how it plays out for Murray if he chooses that route. If a deal is going to happen, it sounds like Heatley will have to be open to more teams. I still can't get exactly what Minny was offering, but it didn't include Burns or Koivu. It sounds like Murray's demands are too high right now.
- The Souray trade talk is heating up again. It sounds like the Oilers are willing to move him. Speculation is Souray and the Oilers 10th for LA's 5th pick, and something else. The Oilers really like Evander Kane. They have a history of making moves, so I won't rule it out. It makes sense on many fronts. Kings get veteran D-man and stay in top ten. Souray gets closer to family. Oilers get high prospect and free up some cap space. The key is what the "something else" is.
- The Leafs are trying to get another first round pick. They've been interviewing lots of mid to late first round picks this morning including, Camrose Kodiak, Dylan Olsen. I literally bumped into him walking here and asked him how his morning was. He'd just finished an interview with the Rangers, and earlier this morning had talks with the Islanders and Leafs, and was in a rush to get to an interview with the Blackhawks. It's a pretty stressful day for these young kids. You don't realize it until you see them. It will be a huge relief whenever his name is called.
- Currently the Sharks are the only team without a first rounder. The Islanders have the 26th pick, but look for Doug Wilson to get involved. Word is he wants to get in the first round, and Ryane Clowe is one of the pieces in place.
12:30 p.m. MST
Took a quick lunch break at the Cage Au Sports, the sports bar right in the Bell Centre, and what a meal. That's just another reason why sports fans in Edmonton deserve a new rink. I took a quick outside tour and they have four "action" statues of Maurice Richard, Jean Beliveau, Howie Morenz and Guy Lafleur. They are great, and then there is a line up of plaques down the side wall with other Montreal legends. (Pics will be up when I return...idiot that I am).
Some more rumblings...
The Kings supposedly offered Frolov and the 5th for Heatley. The Sens said no thanks.
And this seems to be the start of the Souray rumours. Let's play a little scenario.
Steve Tambellini finds out that the Kings are willing to move their 5th, so he makes a call. Keep in mind that even though the Human Rake to LA deal didn't happen, that doesn't mean the Kings weren't trying to acquire him and might still be interested in a top two D-man.
This is where the Oilers and Souray come in. Souray's value is at an all-time high right now. It might stay there for a few years, or it could be like the housing market in Edmonton; Piqued and is now on a downslide.
My gut still says it is a long shot, and I still don't buy that the Kings will move the #5 pick, because that goes against everything that Lombardi has done in building a pretty good stable of young talent., but remember the Kings surprised everyone in 2007 when they took Hickey at #4.
It seems pretty obvious that the Kings and Lightning are the teams in the top five that will listen to offers about their pick. The Bolts will considering moving the #2 if Hedman goes to the Islanders, if he doesn't then BOOK it that he will go to Tampa. Colorado and Atlanta have given the impression they are pretty secure at 3 and 4 respectively.
But the best story is that no one seems to know what the Islanders are going to do.
Many think they like Duchene, but won't take him at #1, but rather trade down a spot or two to get him and another pick. The uncertainty of the Islanders could set the ball in motion as far as teams trying to move up in the draft.
And the Vinny talk is still dominating the floor. What if Montreal can acquire him? This place would go nuts.
If Tampa doesn't get Hedman and take Tavares, would that make them more likely to move Vinny? It's almost mind blowing thinking of all the possibilities.
And can anyone tell me how I can disengage the update that goes to my cell phone telling me JOE SMITH is now following you on twitter. I love that people are following me there, but my phone has been ringing all day with these updates. I need to figure out how to stop it...ha
1:30 p.m MST
Right now...Front and centre in the middle of draft floor Brian Burke is on the horn.
He looks relaxed, his gum is getting one hell of a work out, tie undone, pacing back and forth in an area where no one can hear what he is saying. I wish I had one of those big cones that allows you to hear things from 50 feet away..
**Makes check list for next year...cord thingy for computer and camera...Cone thingy to hear things...Get a tech book to know what the hell Firefox and Chrome is...****
2:45 p.m MST
Regarding the Oilers/Thrasher rumour, (Oilers 4th, Cogliano and Gilbert for Lehtonen, Armstrong and #4) I just got a text that says that package is not correct, but they have had talks.
Discussions are happening, because the Oilers feel they need to get #4 to get Kane.
Kane is drawing comparisons to being 90% of what Jarome Iginla is as a player. If that is indeed the case then he'd be a great pick up.
I know this for sure...The Oilers are trying hard to move up. If they don't it won't be the end of the world for them, but they feel this is a great opportunity for them, and it would be the first time ever that the Oilers have moved up in the top ten in any draft.
Fans have already started to show up. The second deck is almost full. A "go Leafs go "chant was quickly booed and replaced by "Lets' go Habs." We are still more than two hours away from the official start but the fans here are just as anxious as NATION readers to get this going.
3:00 p.m MST
Teams are starting to file in. Scott Howson and the Blue Jackets are here...most of the Devils staff, sand big Lou...I just went down the stairs to say congrats to the hall of famer. Good guy. He's pretty humble about his Hall of Fame nomination.
*** Now they are pumpin out some Black Eyed Peas...Gotta get that...or Boom Boom Pow...not sure what title is, but some heifers are dancing in the second deck...I didn't need to see that.***
Still no sighting of anyone from the Oilers, or Thrashers or Kings or Islanders.
But the rumble on the floor is that the Islanders are leaning towards Duchene. That would be quite the start to the draft.
Now the Coyotes, Kings, Bruins, Ducks, and a few members of the Senators are on the floor.
Cam Neely and Brian Burke and a long and laugh-filled convo.
Howson and Ducks GM Bob Murray and Chiarelli from Boston are talking. The Bruins currently have #25, while the Ducks have 15 and Jackets 16. The Bruins have talked about wanting to move up, so maybe something will happen between them.
3:23 p.m. MST
The man of the hour has arrived. Garth Snow is in the HOUSEEEEE...okay so there was no theme music but right now he has everyone guessing what he will do. Most teams are here, except Chicago, Pittsburgh, NYR, Nashville,St. Louis, Calgary and Atlanta the the Oilers. It makes you wonder if the Thrashers and Oilers are still trying to hammer something out.
I just spoke with Rishaug and Dreger from TSN and they confirm that the Thrashers have indeed made it clear they are now open to offers. The Oilers are interested in that pick, but so are the Kings, Leafs and Dallas Stars. It might be a bidding war.
The Senators have lowered their trade demands for Heatley. They were supposed to be looking for a top-six forward, top-four D-man and a pick/prospect, but have relented a bit. Heatley's value seems to be diminishing as the day goes on.
The Canadiens management team has arrived to a huge roar from the crowd.
4:00 p.m. MST
The Oilers arrived about five minutes ago and right away Tambellini and Lowe were swarmed by TSN guys. Lots of laughing but didn't look like they got much out of them.
Had a great conversation with Daryl Evans, colourman on Kings broadcasts and former NHLer. He is certain the Kings will draft a forward, with all their depth on the backend. He fully expects the Kings to make a move via trade or free agency for sure.
Lots of friendly convo going on between media and various team management types, but it seems like the calm before the storm right now. Let's get it on.
4:36 p.m. MST
As of right now the Oilers have nothing definite, but it is still an hour away from the 4th and 5th picks, and even longer until their own pick.
Remember how late their deals came about at the deadline with O'Sullivan and Kotalik.
Craig Button said on my radio show earlier this week that many teams overvalue their pick on draft day, and that's why many deals fall through at the last moment, because the ransom is just too much.
It sounds like that might be the case with the Thrashers. Their demands for the Oilers might be too rich right now. Tambellini won't over pay, because the Oilers still feel they can get a quality player at #10. If they don't move up, I'd expect Glennie or MPS to be called by the Oilers.
Bruins just got introduced and got booed heavily. Gotta love rivalries.
5:06 p.m. MST
Former Habs owner George Gillette address the crowd. Lots of energy in the building. Each team had to announce who would call the name of their draft pick, and it will be Steve Tambellini for the Oilers.
Everyone is waiting patiently for this to start. There has been a bit of a delay, and now they are showing highlights of some of the top prospects. Tavares was shown first...is that foreshadowing, we shall see soon.
This big screen is crystal clear. It is awesome.
Now there are previewing Hedman. I hope they don't do the top ten or the draft won't start until 5:30
5:11 p.m MST
Dreger reports that Pronger has been dealt to Philly. It sounds like Lupul, but more details to come. The Flyers continue to surprise, and now maybe Lupul and Pronger have been involved in a deal for the second time.
5:17 p.m MST
Finally the first pick. Garth Snow makes everyone wait a bit more with some thanks to Montreal and their fans and then he goes with what I expected John Tavares. The fans at Nassau are busting it out with some confetti. A strong contingent of Islander fans here are cheering loudly.
Expect Hedman #2 and then Duchene #4...The intrigue will come if the Thrashers hold their pick or deal it.
5:53 p.m MST
WE had to wait 25 minutes to talk to Tavares. Well spoken young man, and he is very focused on bringing back success to Long Island. I knew the Islanders would take him, it was too big of a risk to pass up on a guy with his goal scoring ability. Hedman might be just as good, but the Islanders needed a scorer.
THey are playing highlights of players blocking shots on the big screen. Classic. And every time they show a picture of Vinny the place goes nuts. If the Habs somehow trade for him, I bet there will be a five minute ovation.
Larsson is soft, but it isn't surprising that the Coyotes took him. They have made some horrible first round picks and he might be another.
The "67" chant rains down from the rafters. That is awesome. That is a great chant. If the Oilers ever win the Cup again, you can bet that the next year Oiler fans will chant Eighty...NINE when the Flames come to town.
Burke can't even speak. This is one of the few times he has to pause before he speaks, so he'll probably say something good. Kadri is a solid pick. His tenacity is his best asset say the scouts.
6:31 p.m MST
I will be stunned if the Oilers don't choose LW Magnus Paajarvi Svensson. If they do I wonder if they will stitch both names on the back of the jersey. His numbers don't show it 7-10-17 in 50 games in the SEL, but they like his speed and offensive prowess.
I'll be curious if he stays in Sweden of they bring him over to play Major Junior.
He can skate, and some compare him to Markus Naslund. We'll go see what MacGregor and company have to say about him.
7:15 p.m. MST
MacGregor on Svensson.."He's a big power forward who takes it to the net and is a great skater. He's already played in two world junior tournament and will have another opportunity to play in Saskatoon this year. His game is an up tempo game and that's what we are hoping he can play in the NHL"
I also asked MacGregor about the plan looking ahead to round two and beyond.
"For our second pick we are going to go with a projection pick, a player that has a real big upside. Before I came to talk to you we were looking at what the scenarios would be and if we could make an attempt to try and get back in the first round"
7:30 p.m. MST
The Hab fans go nuts when the Canadiens are put on the clock. It was deafening in here. They start to sing their patented O le O le O le Ohhh lee song. They are hoping for a trade annoncement with Tampa Bay, but it won't happen. The Bolts aren't moving Vinny at this moment.
7:36 p.m MST
Hab fans give Louis Leblanc a standing ovation after his name is called at #18.
The Oilers are working the phones and might have another pick before the day is out.
They liked D-man John Moore and he is still available, also Carter Ashton is still out there...
7:51 p.m. MST
The Flames trade down three picks and add a 3rd rounder from New Jersey. Could the Devils "Parise" them like they did the Oilers back in 2003. The Devils moved five spots to take Parise, while the Oilers got the 22nd and 68th picks which turned out to be Pouliot and Jacques.
The Devils just took Jacob Josefson, the 4th Swede taken in the first round already.
8:26 p.m. MST
The energy in the building is similar to the feeling on the Nation...subdued. It was a good ride, but now they want it to end. You have to be respectful of the young kids waiting for their name to be called.
Awkward moment of the day comes for the Johansson family. Marcus Johansson went 24th to the Capitals and his family was very excited, his mom gave him the longest kiss or any mom on the day. It was good comedic relief for the crowd and got a mixed reaction.
Just going to interview Tambellini will be back with his thoughts in a bit.
8:52 p.m MST
I asked Tambellini how close he was to moving up into the top five.
"We knew that at pick ten it would take something incredible for us to move. If I had a pick in the top four, I don't think I would have moved to far down, maybe five or six, but to move to ten it would have taken a lot for that team to accept our deal."
Does the Pronger trade reveal how much it will cost to get a superstar? Is the asking price that high?
"Depends on who the player is I guess. Pronger is a dominant player and he will change what Philly looks like. That is a franchise type move, not just a player move. "
Do you think something will still be available on the table tomorrow?
I don't know. There is so much discussion, it's almost like the trade deadline where you feel like you've talked to everyone a dozen times around the horn. There was so much talk coming into today I thought maybe there would be a little bit more than what happened, but it could be tomorrow. There's lots that can happen tomorrow or before July 1st."
That wraps up day one from the 2009 NHL entry draft. Only one big move, and a move by the Flyers that has many wondering if they overpaid for the Human Rake, giving up Joffrey Lupul, Luca Sbisa and two first rounders. The Oilers did get a LW but it wasn't Heatley who many fans were hoping for.
And I wonder if the Flames in fact gave the Devils some compensation for signing Brent Sutter. The Flames had the 20th pick and traded down to Devils pick at 23. The Flames did get a 3rd rounder, but you wonder if that was a back door hand shake.
Talk to you tomorrow.
June 26 2009, 02:40PM
BUCK75 wrote:
oil4life wrote: how do you get to the live blog ^^^Top of Page^^^ Live updates
I think its been reformated to be at the bottom of the page now, or am i out to lunch here?
June 26 2009, 02:41PM
@ Archaeologuy: I concur...
@ NonMint:
Yes, we are learning how we are going to have to do this the next time. It is live in the sense that Gregor is updating it on the fly - but this isn't a chat room so he has to repost his article manually.
heh heh MANUALLY
Do we just refresh this page for the live blog?
June 26 2009, 02:42PM
HEY!! WAIT!!! I have news!
...wait...no...no I don't.
@)!)@#$%^ing #)$(**(@s on the #)($*^%^_ already!
Archaeologuy wrote:
I think its been reformated to be at the bottom of the page now, or am i out to lunch here?
Nope, you're right, definately in chronologicalish order.
Wanye Gretz wrote:
@ NonMint: Yes, we are learning how we are going to have to do this the next time. It is live in the sense that Gregor is updating it on the fly - but this isn't a chat room so he has to repost his article manually. heh heh MANUALLY
Pick your software carefully, alot of the programs tend to either eat up ridiculous chunks of bandwidth, chug terribly or just plain ol' fail under large traffic.
June 26 2009, 02:43PM
@ Kevin: yes
Gregor, forget about the big cone, you just need a Whisper 2000, and when ordering that you could always get a ShamWow and Slap Chop!!!!
Kevin wrote:
Do we just refresh this page for the live blog?
@ Jason Gregor: Is Doug Riseborough rollin with the FLA crew?
look up, way up
Archaeologuy wrote:
BUCK75 wrote: oil4life wrote: how do you get to the live blog ^^^Top of Page^^^ Live updates I think its been reformated to be at the bottom of the page now, or am i out to lunch here?
LOL - I guess it is above us, but not quite at the top of the page
Gregor and I have flipped it so that now there are timestamps and the article updates at the bottom.
June 26 2009, 02:51PM
Lets keep in mind, Oil missed the palyoffs the last three years, we have the Dream Team for coaching, and well regarded mangement. Quinn and Renney would not have come if Tambo and Katz did not promise they going to do something to get at least a top 6 forward. Besides the Salary Cap, money is not an issue any longer. Batman will spend the cash to put a winner together!!
Uh oh guys - my wife finally figured out that the draft doesn't START for 2 more hours and I have been wasting all day on the computer instead of doing what I was supposed to. Any good suggestions to prevent me from valuable activities over the next 6 hours?
June 26 2009, 02:54PM
Hey Jason. Just wondering, but is Kovalchuk's name coming up at all? I'm sure Atlanta would, rightly, want a lot coming back but it's nice to dream. Personally, I'd rather the Oilers went after him than Heatley.
June 26 2009, 02:55PM
Chaz wrote:
Unless that report due at the end of the day is titled "Gregor's First Day at the Draft" my Boss shouldn't hold his breath for it.
Great line...got a laugh in media row here.
June 26 2009, 02:56PM
@ Librarian Mike: I wouldn't count on it. If I was Atlanta, I would be doing everything in my power to pick up something to keep Kovalchuk around. Though I'm sure he would fetch a ton of assests if they were to shop him.
hahah ok i thought it might of been a link i wasnt seeing this is my first time commenting on here although i read all the time i love this site ...
@ Bar Qu:
Two words... Swine Flu.
@ Bar Qu a laptop and "the poops"
June 26 2009, 02:57PM
The Towel Boy wrote:
For the record, I have been reading all of your posts today in my head with a French accent. You sound very distinguished, I must say.
Merci Monsieur, je parle francais
June 26 2009, 02:57PM
@ Bar Qu: All i HAVE is the 2 hours before the draft. My shift starts at 5pm. I will miss the whole thing, though i will be beside a TV.
If someone can make me firm job offer before 4:30 i wont have to miss the Draft. Come on Nation, you landed Gregor in Montreal and the Stollery a huge novelty check, now you need to get old Archy a different job!
@ Archaeologuy: I can offer you a job as long as you don't want to get paid anything.
Gregor would we be able to assemble a rag tag group of Oiler and Canuck fans to start a "Flames suck" chant?
Just to be clear here, by "we" I mean you.
Call me what you will, as much as I realize we need some ultra talented young prospects in our system to be successful down the road (and perhaps even now), I STILL won't be as pumped about moving up to a 4th round pick or whatever as I would be excited about trading for/signing a proven commodity. Now if we do both....
Bar Qu wrote:
Uh oh guys - my wife finally figured out that the draft doesn't START for 2 more hours and I have been wasting all day on the computer instead of doing what I was supposed to. Any good suggestions to prevent me from valuable activities over the next 6 hours?
June 26 2009, 03:00PM
@ Bar Qu: That wont jive with my landlord.
June 26 2009, 03:00PM
Harlie wrote:
Hey Gregor do you see Jim RIMberry walking around all tuxed up near the Bell Centre, holding a Brinks truck full of cash under his arm, looking to buy something, anything, NHL related!?
NO Rimberry sighting...something tells me he won't be allowed in today...
Jason Gregor wrote:
The Towel Boy wrote: For the record, I have been reading all of your posts today in my head with a French accent. You sound very distinguished, I must say. Merci Monsieur, je parle francais
J'ai un petit chien avec une parapluie.
June 26 2009, 03:01PM
humantorch wrote:
Jason Gregor wrote: The Towel Boy wrote: For the record, I have been reading all of your posts today in my head with a French accent. You sound very distinguished, I must say. Merci Monsieur, je parle francais J'ai un petit chien avec une parapluie.
mange ma boeuf
dyckster wrote:
Call me what you will, as much as I realize we need some ultra talented young prospects in our system to be successful down the road (and perhaps even now), I STILL won't be as pumped about moving up to a 4th round pick or whatever as I would be excited about trading for/signing a proven commodity. Now if we do both….
Getting a guy like Evander Kane would be just as good as a proven commodity - this kid is the real deal.
@ Archaeologuy:
Oddly enough, I haven't seen any Austin Powers movie other than about half of the first one.
@ Matt: Easy there Matt.
@ Bar Qu: chalk it up to a 2 hour time change? Tell her you're fixing the internet? Buying something for her mother on ebay?
June 26 2009, 03:03PM
I've been mulling over the 'deal' Swany posted a ways back (Gilbert, Cogs, and the 10th (Glennie) to the Thrashers for Lehtonen, Armstrong, and the 4th (Kane)), trying to decide if I like it.
I've decided. I don't.
After much back and forth, I figure that Armstrong and Cogs is pretty much an even swap. Yeah, Armstrong plays on the top line in Atlanta, is tough-as-nails, and had two more points than Cogs last season, but Cogs is way more versatile for the Oil at center than Armstrong will be on the RW; with Hemmer, Armstrong is permanently stapled to the second line unless we ask him to play off-wing. We should be keeen to try that again this year, right? Besides, 40 points from a top line guy compared to 38 points from a 2nd/3rd line guy? Still going with Cogs there.
So, those guys being a saw-off, we're really talking about a back-up goalie (or crappy starter; you decide)and Kane for a premier puck-moving defenceman in his prime and Glennie. That deal is a lot easier to break down.
Thanks for playing, but I don't think so. I like Kane too, but not that much. The Oilers better not have any part of this foolishness of I'll sic Towel Boy on them. I bet they don't see that coming.
Jason Gregor wrote:
Great line…got a laugh in media row here.
Not sure how it's pronounced in French, but "SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!"
June 26 2009, 03:07PM
humantorch wrote:
@ Archaeologuy: Oddly enough, I haven't seen any Austin Powers movie other than about half of the first one.
The other 2 1/2 movies are basically that, just repeated and less funny.
and all the moeny spent sending Gregor to the draft has already paid off. TSN finally gets up to speed. TSN blog wrote:
TSN-Moderator: Gord Miller suggests the Atlanta Thrashers have made it known that their first pick (4th overall) is available. Ryan Rishaug notes that the Oilers are among the teams interested in the Thrashers pick.
w00t for getting info way faster then every other year.
Matt wrote:
@ Bar Qu: chalk it up to a 2 hour time change? Tell her you're fixing the internet? Buying something for her mother on ebay?
You redeemed yourself there with those suggestions though.
June 26 2009, 03:09PM
Chaz wrote:
Not sure how it's pronounced in French, but "SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!"
Ahem...if I may..
Le SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
Kevin wrote:
Getting a guy like Evander Kane would be just as good as a proven commodity - this kid is the real deal.
Some top 10 draft supposed future stars who turned out to be anything but: Rico Fata, Jason Bonsignore, Patrick Stefan, Alexander Svitov, Alexander Daigle, Pavel Brendl.
To compare a kid who excelled in Junior to a proven NHL player seems foolish at best.
June 26 2009, 03:10PM
The Towel Boy wrote:
Ahem…if I may.. Le SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
June 26 2009, 03:11PM
Ender the Dragon wrote:
The Oilers better not have any part of this foolishness of I'll sic Towel Boy on them. I bet they don't see that coming.
Damn straight skippy!
I'm lean, I'm mean and I don't have all my shots.
dyckster wrote:
Kevin wrote: Getting a guy like Evander Kane would be just as good as a proven commodity - this kid is the real deal. Some top 10 draft supposed future stars who turned out to be anything but: Rico Fata, Jason Bonsignore, Patrick Stefan, Alexander Svitov, Alexander Daigle, Pavel Brendl. To compare a kid who excelled in Junior to a proven NHL player seems foolish at best.
So by that logic you'd have picked a proven commodity over Sidney Crosby, Alexander Ovechkin, Evgeni Malkin etc.
The Towel Boy wrote:
Ahem…if I may.. Le SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
Je m'Excuse moi Monsiour. C'est obviousse, non? Je suis le idiot.
*Reflects upon the beauty of the French language....
uhm....I just got a written reprimand for using my phone to converse with my fellow nationeers while in a live operating plant. My boss was not impressed and clearly not an oilers fan. But screw it, I was looking for a job when I found this one
If you replace cogs with any one of our bags of spare pucks (nilson, pens, poo, schremp) then that deal would be awsome
or throw in two of those guys...
or all of them.
Gregor's twitter: Rumblings on draft floor is that the Islanders are leaning towards Duchene! That would be great and cause a stir to kick off draft!
That would be greasy. I figured Burke was full of it when he said that on OTR, maybe something to it... The first sellout at Nassua in forever, and the place will be torn apart. I love that franchise.


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The Truth Will Set You Free
It is possible to live in an evangelical, Bible-believing, Bible-loving world and never hear the criticism of the Bible that is commonplace in university religion departments around the country and in the classrooms of many mainline churches. I lived outside this evangelical world for three years in Germany and was struck at how bold the criticisms could be. I recall in one seminar, a group of scholars were discussing the Psalms, and someone quoted a particular Psalm to address the issue at hand, and a very emotional scholar across the table said, "Das ist doch ein Pharisäer Psalm!" "That's a Pharisee psalm," meaning, this psalm teaches the kind of legalism that characterized the Pharisees and can't be used as a basis for truth.
It seems wise to me, as one of your shepherds charged to guard you from false teaching, that I should make you aware that many critical scholars believe that not only did John create dialogues that Jesus never spoke, but in the process he distorted and indeed falsified what Jesus actually taught. The most burning issue for these scholars is what they would call John's heated anti-Semitism — that the author (usually not the apostle John) is writing from a later time when the hostilities between Christians and Jews were intense. And that John distorted the portrait and words of Jesus to demonize Jews in general.
Tensions Between Jews and Christians
And, of course, there was hostility. Recall, for example, that Jesus said in Mark 13:9, "They will deliver you over to councils, and you will be beaten in synagogues." And recall that Saul the Pharisee (who would become Paul the apostle), before his conversion, was "breathing threats and murder against the disciples of the Lord . . . so that if he found any belonging to the Way, men or women, he might bring them bound to Jerusalem" (Acts 9:1–2). So the relationship between Jews and Christians (including Jewish Christians) after the days of Jesus on earth were very strained.
And no one can seriously deny that in the history of the church there have been horrible centuries of Christian hostilities toward the Jewish people. When I was preparing my message on Robert Murray McCheyne for the pastors' conference, for example, I read the journals of his trip to Israel in 1839. Several times he groaned at how hard evangelism was among the Jewish people because of these hostilities: "The Jews mistrusted the Christians, especially the Roman Catholics, because of the indignity and persecution they had suffered at their hands for centuries" (L.J. Van Valen, Constrained by His Love: a New Biography on Robert Murray M'Cheyne [Scotland: Christian Focus, 2002], 283).
Scholars Slandering the Word of God
We should be ashamed of this part of our history. But unlike so many critical scholars, we should not lay the fault of this history at the feet of the Gospel of John, which is what so many do. I mention this now in our series on John because chapter 8 is the climax of what the critical scholars see as the problem. For example, concerning our text today, Richard Hays, Professor of New Testament at Duke Divinity School, says:
Nowhere in John's Gospel does the superheated animosity toward the Jews come to more vigorous expression than in chapter 8. . . . The dialogue [of John 8:39–47] is the most deeply disturbing outburst of anti-Jewish sentiment in the New Testament. . . . John makes a fateful theological step: from the empirical fact of the unbelief of the Jews . . . . The Jews who do not believe must be children of the devil. . . . The conclusion of verse 47 articulates the chilling logic of this position: the reason they do not hear the word of God is that they are not from God. . . . One shudders to contemplate the ethical outworking of such a theological perspective on the Jews. . . . The Gospel of John really does adopt a stance toward Judaism that can only engender polemics and hostility.
This is a great sadness that ordained Christian teachers in the church should slander the word of God in this way. Let me mention four problems with this way of dealing with Jesus' very hard words in John 8 — for though they are hard, they are especially offensive to modern, soft, pluralistic ears. Four responses, and the fourth one will launch us into an exposition of the text itself to let Jesus and John speak for themselves.
Four Problems with the Critical Approach
First, if we try to eliminate from the Gospels language that is intensely indicting toward some Jewish people in Jesus's life, we will have to eliminate far more of the Gospels than John 8. Jesus' language toward the Pharisees is almost uniformly negative everywhere in all four Gospels, and often intensely so. He called them a "brood of vipers" in Matthew and Luke (3:7 and 3:7); "hypocrites" in all the Gospels; "blind men" (Matthew 23:19) and "white washed tombs" (Matthew 23:27) and "children of hell" (Matthew 23:15). This intense indictment of most of the Jewish leadership of Jesus's day is pervasive in the Gospels, not a quirk of the Gospel of John. If the Jesus of John has to go, so does the Jesus of all the Gospels.
Second, Jesus spoke of all unbelievers, Jews and Gentiles, not just Jews, as sons of the devil. For example, in the parable of the weeds, describing the growth of the church and the end of the age, he says, "The field is the world, and the good seed is the sons of the kingdom. The weeds are the sons of the evil one . . . The harvest is the close of the age" (Matthew 13:38–39). These weeds are all unbelievers in the church. Jewish people are not unique in their unbelief and their vulnerability to the blinding and distorting effects of the devil. The indictments of John 8 are not meant by Jesus to separate the Jews into a special category of sinner. We are all indicted for our unbelief in John 8.
Third, Paul teaches plainly that all unbelievers are in the sway of the devil: "The god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers" (2 Corinthians 4:4). And all unbelievers — including all of us before we were rescued by pure grace — are "children of wrath" and "dead in our trespasses and sins" (Ephesians 2:3–4). The New Testament as a whole, not just John's Gospel, sees in the ongoing resistance to Jesus, whether in Jew or Gentile, the deadness and blindness of sin and the accompanying work of Satan. John 8 is not unique. We need to see that this criticism of John's Gospel is far more radical than it may seem. It is a deep opposition, not to one imbalanced writer, but to the pervasive diagnosis of the human problem in the New Testament. The Gospel of John is not an imbalanced distortion of Jesus. What is said of Jews in John 8 is true of me and you and all people apart from sovereign grace.
Not a Uniquely Jewish Problem, But a Human Problem
One last response that launches us into the text. The same author that wrote the Gospel of John wrote the First Epistle of John. The language and the ideas are very similar. And in the letter John makes clear that being "of the devil" is not a mark of Jewishness, but a mark of bondage to sin and unbelief. John says in 1 John 3:8, "Whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil [Jew or Gentile], for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil."
So, yes, Jewish leaders are called sons of the devil in John 8. But woe to us Gentiles if we read this and do not see the tragedy of unbelief rather than the bitterness of anti-Semitism. Jesus is not addressing a Jewish problem, but a human problem. Woe to us if we do not see the Son of God at work like a doctor, diagnosing and exposing the horrific nature of our disease and our enemy — and offering himself as the one cure in the world, even to those whom he knows will kill him. Verse 36: "If the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed."
I know I have taken up half this message before we have opened the text, but we don't need to rush. We will take several more weeks on John 8 — and on this text in particular.
"Many Believed"
Recall where we ended last time in verse 30: "Many believed in him." He had said in verse 12, "I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will not walk in darkness, but will have the light of life." This is the Son of God in the world to destroy the dark works of the devil. And he is offering himself to every Jew and every Pharisee or anyone else: If they follow him, believe on him, he delivers them from darkness — from the blinding power of Satan in their lives. And it says in verse 30, "many believed."
Now the question is: Did Jesus treat this belief as genuine? We've seen before that there is a kind of "belief" in this Gospel that is not real (for example, 2:23–25). It doesn't embrace Jesus as satisfying water for the soul, or satisfying bread for the soul, or light for the path. It just follows him because of hope for some earthly benefit from his miracles (6:26, 36). Does Jesus treat this faith in verse 30 as genuine?
Those Who Truly Believe Abide
He leaves it open and tells them how they can know if it is genuine. Verses 31–32: "So Jesus said to the Jews who had believed in him, 'If you abide in my word, you are truly my disciples, and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.'" Now those two verses call for a whole sermon. And I hope to give it. But keep moving for now to get the big picture.
Something is going to happen that makes Jesus say that some of these believers are not believing. Look at verse 45: "But because I tell the truth, you do not believe me." So he begins this section by saying: If you abide in my word, you are the real deal. You really believe. You are really born again. You have passed from darkness to light. You will not die in your sins (8:24). You are no longer children of the devil, but children of God. That's what would be true if they "abide" in his word. This is what he came to do. For you and for me.
The Human Tendency to Self-Justification
What happened that makes him say in verse 45, "You do not believe me"? What happened was a refusal to hear his words (let alone abide in them), and a desire to kill him (opposition to truth and desire to kill the truth-bearer), all the while claiming to be children of Abraham and children of God and free from slavery, when, in fact, murder and a refusal to receive the truth are the marks of slavery to sin and Satan. So what we have in verses 33–47 (leaving verses 31–32 for its own sermon) is a painful and precious warning how we human beings tend to justify ourselves before God on the basis of our ethnic or religious or moral pedigree. In other words, Jesus is digging into the real condition of the human heart behind self-justifications that we come up with when confronted with Jesus' absolute claims on our lives. And he is naming the condition we are in, and it is frightening. The realities here are not funny, they're not light, they're not easy. They are dreadful and weighty and overpowering apart from God's grace — which Jesus is full of (John 1:14).
The real reason that Jewishness is important here is because it represents the kind of religious, ethnic, moral self-justification that all religions, indeed all humans, use when confronted with Jesus as the only one who can set us free from slavery to self and sin and Satan. Notice verse 36: "So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed." And the freedom he is talking about is, first, freedom from sin and its terrible power to condemn us if we are not freed from it. Verse 34: Jesus answered them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin." Everyone! Not just Jews. We all sin, and we are all slaves of sin, until the power of sin and Satan is broken in our lives. And only the Son of God, Jesus Christ, who lays down his life for the sheep, can cancel and conquer our sin. "If the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed."
Why Jewishness Matters in This Text
Jewishness is the issue here because Jesus was Jewish and came to Jews — to the lost sheep of the house of Israel (Matthew 15:24). But suppose Jesus were presented among Muslims or Hindus or Buddhists or Animists or secular materialists the way he presents himself here: "Only the Son can set you free from your bondage to sin. You must believe in the Son and abide in his word. Then you will truly be his disciples, and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free. Only through the Son, Jesus Christ, who came to give his life for sin and rise again — only through the Son can you be set free." If Jesus were presented that way among any of those religious groups, the same response would happen as happened here — unless God intervened with sovereign grace. Religion, ethnicity, and morality would be called in for self-justification.
That's why Jewishness matters here. It's an illustration of the way all of us try to evade Jesus and his words of indictment that we are slaves of sin without him, and will perish if we don't believe (John 3:16). It isn't Jews only who don't want to hear that they are slaves; it's all humans who don't want to hear it. I'm offended if you tell me I am a slave. And the point of this text is that when we are offended like this, we will use any religious or ethnic or moral self-justification we can.
Look how it happens, and pray that you will be able to spot this sort of thing in your own life, if you are ever tempted to do it.
Our Attempt at Ethnic Justification
Verse 33: "They answered him, 'We are offspring of Abraham and have never been enslaved to anyone. How is it that you say, "You will become free"'?" Jesus agrees with them at this point. Verse 37: "I know that you are offspring of Abraham; yet you seek to kill me because my word finds no place in you." So do they have a good defense here or not? "We're not in danger of your indictment or God's judgment! We are the offspring of Abraham. You say so yourself." So they defend themselves with an ethnic argument — religiously laden for sure, but at this point it's just ethnic. We're safe. We're Jews. Could be Muslims. Could be Hindus. Could be Buddhists. Could be moralistic materialists. The question for them all is: Are you safe without Jesus?
But then things get messier. In verse 39, they say it again. "They answered him, 'Abraham is our father.'" But this time Jesus says, no, he's not. "Jesus said to them, 'If you were Abraham's children, you would be doing the works Abraham did, but now you seek to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God. This is not what Abraham did" (John 8:39–40). This is incredible. You say you are Jews. You're not Jews. You say Abraham is your father. He's not. True Jewishness, Jesus says, is not a bloodline; it's a faith and obedience line.
If you ever wondered where Paul got his theology, wonder no more. Romans 9:6–8:
Not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel, and not all are children of Abraham because they are his offspring, . . . It is not the children of the flesh who are the children of God, but the children of the promise are counted as offspring.
Our Attempt at Religious Justification
So we are not surprised then when we read in John 8:41–42, "'We have one Father — even God.' Jesus said to them, 'If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and I am here.'" First, it was their ethnic connection with Abraham that justified them. Now it is their religion, their God. We are children of God! And Jesus says (just like Paul in Romans 9:8), "No, you aren't."
Until the Son sets you free, you are not children in the house; you are slaves. Verses 34–35: "Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever." If you want to be a son — a son of Abraham, a son of God, you must be born again into the family. "A true Jew is one inwardly, and circumcision is a matter of the heart, by the Spirit, not the letter" (Romans 2:29). But, as it is now, you are a slave, not a son.
And the fact that you want to kill me, Jesus says (verse 40), and won't receive the truth (verse 45), shows who your father is. The devil was a murderer and a liar from the beginning (8:44). And in your sin, he has you by the throat. And you do his will. Just like "Cain, who was of the evil one and murdered his brother. . . . Because his own deeds were evil and his brother's righteous" (1 John 3:12). And Cain was not a Jew.
Our Attempt at Moral Justification
And most of you are not Jews. So you may say, I don't do this. I don't claim any ethnic or religious superiority. I'm just a regular guy that keeps my nose clean, probably better than most. One closing word for you: Verse 41: "They said to him, 'We were not born of sexual immorality.'" Where did that come from? Nobody said they were. They probably weren't. Well, why bring it up? They brought it up because the scuttlebutt about Jesus is that he was born of sexual immorality. His mother was pregnant before she was married. So what does that get the people?
It gets them moral superiority. "Look Jesus, we're not bastards. If anybody is enslaved here, it's you, to your sordid past." Nobody escapes from this text. Everybody is here in these Jewish self-justifiers. We don't need you, Jesus. We have our ethnicity. We don't need you. We have our religion. We don't need you. We have our moral superiority.
Only the Son
But they won't work. They won't work for the Jews, and they won't work for you or me. One thing works. "If the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed."