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Embrace the Hate
Thomas Drance
November 16 2011 09:42AM
This summer was an emotional and difficult one for the Canucks and their fans. The loss of the Stanley Cup and the embarrassment of the Game7 Riot were bad enough, but the untimely passing of former Canucks forwards Rick Rypien and Pavel Demitra was way harder. In response to the worst summer in recent memory for the team, the Canucks have come up with a theme for this season, and are celebrating the contributions of "local heroes" with the Heart of a Canuck campaign. But for Canucks fans who compulsively occupy the digital space on reddit or twitter, or live outside of Vancouver; the theme of this year is quite different. This season's theme is all about redemption, it's about changing the approach, and learning to "Embrace the Hate."
When your two best players win the Art Ross back to back, the Presidents Trophy, and three playoff rounds, they are bound to accrue a certain "mythology". The Canucks (undeservedly in my view) have become a heel team, roundly mocked for their unworthiness, gutlessness, diving, lack of Canadian players and their cheap-shot artist ways. Canucks fans have done their part too, and have developed a reputation for whininess, conspiracy theories, undue sensitivity, rioting, insecurity and worst of all, we're seen as a "humourless fanbase".
All of this is very dramatic, Canucks fans aren't all that bad, and the team doesn't do anything altogether out of the ordinary, except win more games than most teams. Certainly the moral outrage the team's detractors "put-on" when they're live-tweeting Canucks playoff games is silly, and not worth taking seriously. But hundreds, maybe thousands of Canucks fans do take it seriously, and angrily tweet bile at the likes of Barry Rozner, Taylor Hall, and Theo Fleury after their negative comments, or after a Canucks loss. The fact remains, Canucks fans have a perception problem, and an inability to laugh off insults.
The "Embrace the Hate" campaign at Canucks Army is aimed at helping to change that. Here's the basic idea: it's a content competition, that will run all year and raise money for various charities. The Nation Network, and their writers have put together 750$, all of it earmarked for various charities. We're going to decide where we direct the funds in particular based on a "content competition" that will be held at this site. The contest has four categories:
Best Troll Post
They say Canucks fans can't laugh at themselves, that we take everything too seriously, that we can't take a joke. What they don't realize, is that life long Canucks fans are a joke, and most of us understand the irony of our situation. For the best troll post category, I have invited several noted Canucks haters (or just haters in general) to write about their dislike of the team and fan-base in this space. After all, if you're going to properly Embrace the Hate, you need to be able to embrace even the biggest meanest trolls. Contestants are going to include Kelly Reardon of Blackhawk Down Low (who once wrote this), Bryan Reynolds of Hockey Wilderness, Ryan Lambert of a bunch of places (why the Naslund hate, Ryan?), Pension Plan Puppets (seriously?) and noted sore winner, Greg Ezell of Days of Y'Orr. At the end of the season we'll have a vote, and an esteemed panel of Canucks Army editors will grade the posts based on their hurtfulness, creativity and level of all around malice. These posts are going to brutal, mean and funny, but will Canucks fans be able to laugh it all off? That's the challenge!
The winner in the best troll post category will receive a donation of $250 in their name, to the charity of their choice. It's Canucks Army's way of paying reparations for the crimes committed by the team and fan-base against the good, god-fearing Wild, Blackhawks, Flames, Leafs and Bruins fans over the years.
Unconditional Love Post
The history of the Canucks franchise is filled with pain, embarrassment and deep, unending sadness. The Canucks are the only team without a Stanley Cup that has made it to two game sevens in the Stanley Cup Final without hoisting the mug. On top of two rather massive hockey riots, Canucks fans have to contend with the disappointment of the West Coast Express era, and the shadow of Todd Bertuzzi. There's the Iron Mike era, the Bure trade and a generation (1970-1989) of being absolute doormats, the LA Clippers of hockey.
But if you're going to embrace the hate, you need to embrace even the most sordid moments in your team's history. In this category, some of my favorite Canucks bloggers will rationalize and defend the most indefensible moments in Canucks history. The Stanchion, Katie Maximick, Jeff Angus, Harrison Mooney, Daniel Wagner and Cam Charron will all be participating, and topics defended will include both riots, the Bertuzzi punch, Bure's trade request, Raffi Torres' continued existence and Tony Gallagher. The winner in the Unconditional Love Post category will receive a donation of $250 in their name to the Canucks Fund for Kids.
Best "In Enemy Territory" Account
One of the most frequent complaints about Canucks fans are that, in person, they often suck to watch the game with. To try and dispel this myth of the touchy, humourless Canucks fan, I'd like to invite bloggers and fans submit stories about attending a Canucks game in the barn's of various rivals.
I want to know how you were received, and how you dealt with the various barbs, the fingers being thrust into your face and how you kept your cool when that Bruins fan threw beer nuts at you. We'll accept any story, regardless of how graphic or dark, but points will ultimately be awarded for finding out a way to laugh it off and Embrace the Hate.
I myself will probably contribute to this category, and I'm hoping any of our readers who have plans on attending a Canucks game in a foreign city will submit their story for consideration! The winning entry earns a 150$ donation to be made in their name to the Canucks Fund for Kids, and we'll also set them up with some Canucks swag.
The Worst Canucks Fan on Twitter Award
Please let me know about any particularly deranged Canucks fan twitter accounts out there in the ether. If they're rude, profane and unduly suspicious about every call - I want to know about it. I will profile four particularly awful Twitter accounts throughout the year, and donate 100$ to the Canucks Fund for Kids on behalf of all appalled Canucks fans.
The first post of the Embrace the Hate campaign goes live early this afternoon!
November 16 2011, 09:50AM
That's the post of mine you decided to link to? C'mon, that's like C- material. Check out this rant (at the bottom) instead to get a taste of what you're in for: http://www.blackhawksdl.com/2011-articles/september/2011-northwest-division-preview.html
November 16 2011, 10:03AM
Off-topic, but I cannot let a mention of the "Heart of a Canuck" ads stand without comment.
They are terrible. The worst sports ads I have ever seen or heard - the soft voice-over on the radio ads is particularly brutal.
Hockey is not a terminal illness. Don't advertise it like one.
Heh, glad to see that no one from Coppernblue is there! Those guys--well, only Derek Zona, really--really piss me off.
Really, we need a statistical-driven campaign that shows that winning the President's Trophy is a harder feat (less luck driven) than the Stanley Cup. Then we long-suffering Canucks fans can finally feel like winners.
November 16 2011, 10:30AM
@Kelly, I've changed the link!
Haha, thanks man.


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They taste like normal gingerbread, but they leave a film on the roof of my mouth. Is it the xanthan gum, the cornstarch, or the tapioca? I'm too new at this to know. Fortunately, we like gingerbread, so I'll be able to test out this recipe with a different flour mix.
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Scofield Reference Bible & Cyrus I Scofield
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"Because in order to say something was translated incorrectly one would have to know the language intimately."
Not quite sure you can say that with total authority. For example, I would agree the KJ translators were quite "intimate" with the Greek, yet they could not come to an agreement how to translate the word baptize, so they transliterated it.
The novice automatically thinks "water immersion." (most baptists do not mention emmersion but we hope that happens too).
There is no water in 1 Cor. 12:13.
I'm not schooled in greek, but I can tell that the guys who translated the AV (which I love) in that verse came up with question marks. 'Plunges' would work but maybe not in 1611. Dipped? Immersed? The Holy Spirit doesn't use water to place us into the Body of Christ.
The Apostle Paul writes in Eph 3 there is one baptism. According to 1 Cor. 12:13 there is no water involved.
And I didn't check Scofield either. What's his notes say about 1 Cor. 12:13? Since you quote his prefaces, you must have one.
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Artskoe, you are artful at dodging questions that require a scriptural attitude or response. Perhaps you haven't noticed that about yourself....but I have. :shameonyou:
As far as having a Scofield ref. bible....not really...I found an online version of the notes...you can get almost anything, good or bad, on the internet. I also discovered that esword has a version of the notes, which are not as handy to access. Which I will also dump when I am done with this topic.
As far as the ability to translate the Greek or Hebrew and prove that something was mistranslated...the questions stand that you cannot answer, concerning Scofields knowledge of Hebrew, Greek, Aramaic/syriac.--- which you didn't answer.
The questions stands on where did he get a PHd in order to be called Dr. ---which you didn't answer.
Those and many other questions stand, because you cannot answer them honestly either factually or scripturally. And I suspect that will not endear Scofield to any one with discernment as you might suggest. On the contrary, it shows you promote something without being able to prove it or the author to the Scriptures which we are required to do. It is not an option.
Again from my last post, I leave you with these thoughts which you cannot and apparently will not answer although it has been presented in various ways to you in this thread.
Artskoe, we are called to test the fruit---Jesus said that we would know false teachers by their fruit. Part of that fruit is abiding the Word of God, in their lives.
I will make this really smple for you.
It is not about "gossip". I ask you again. It has been presented on other sources, that court records show he had abandoned his wife and two little girls. Court records show the court stated he was unfit as a parent, having abandoned his children and his first wife won the case.
Assuming that is true--yes I know you werent there, and I wasnt there...but then...if that was the criteria nothing could be proven as true except by an eyewitness...and the court records and similar of that time become the eyewitness.
Assuming they are true....including the divorce documentation and timing of it:
Can someone who abandoned their family and did not provide for them, be a leader or teacher of the Scriptures according to the Scriptures? Yes or No.
Can someone who did the above be a pastor of a church, according to the Scriptures? Yes or No.
The fact that you will not answer these questions which are based on Scriptures says much about your desire for the truth. It is to your shame.
I told you I had not officially researched him. Based on what I know with the brief research I have done....Scofield has nothing to offer that I would be interested in. Regardless of when some things took place, that it is omitted in the pro Scofield biographys', the abandoning of his first wife and children, shows a lack of repentance and violation of the Scriptures, that being, doing things honest before others. That he was placed in a place of leadership, having more than one wife, again violates the Scriptures regarding qualifications of a leader.
That those who claim to belong to Jesus Christ omit/avoid/pretend it doesn't matter, are also violating the Scriptures.
We are all sinners saved by grace, and when the qualifications of leadership were put into place in the Scriptures, it was with that knowledge, and knowing that in Christ the qualifications were necessary and the standard is to be upheld so shame is not brought upon the witness of Christ.
There is no excuse to have overturned them--for anyone.
If Scofield had repented, it would have been known publicly, because he would not have hidden his abandoned first wife and children from his information. He would have spoken of God's grace and forgiveness and that He had helped him right that terrible wrong, so God could be glorified through it all. He did not...
1Ti 5:8 But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.
Act 10:34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
It is fully about what the Scriptures have to say...not someone's ideas about what the Scriptures have to say. Especially when they do not line up with the Scriptures. And again, you avoided the questions and possible Scriptures that were asked of you concerning Scofield. We are called to prove all things, not pretend they don't exist because we have chosen to follow a man's teaching.
There is absolutely nothing that can be said in defense of anyone who accepted or promoted him as a pastor, or teacher or his writings, when one views the requirements of someone who is presented as leadership, IN THE Scriptures. Since we cannot be respecters of person's that means it does not matter who promoted him..it was in disobedience to the Scriptures.
Titus 1:6-9 If any be blameless, the husband of one wife , having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly. 7. For a bishop must be blameless, as the steward of God; not selfwilled, not soon angry, not given to wine, no striker, not given to filthy lucre; 8. But a lover of hospitality, a lover of good men, sober, just, holy, temperate; 9. Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers.
1 Thessalonians 5:21-22 21. Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. 22. Abstain from all appearance of evil.
1 Timothy 3:1-11 This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work. 2. A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; 3. Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous; 4. One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity; 5. (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?) 6. Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil. 7. Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil. .
James 2:1-10 My brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons. ... 4. Are ye not then partial in yourselves, and are become judges of evil thoughts? 5. Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him? ... 7. Do not they blaspheme that worthy name by the which ye are called? 8. If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well: 9. But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors. 10. For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
3John 1:4 I have no greater joy than to hear that my children walk in truth.
Isaiah 40:31 But they that wait upon the LORD shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint.
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I have the Old Scofield Reference Bible (1917). Many of our church members use it...I don't believe our pastor does. I don't use it anymore..I am using the Open Bible and Henry Morris' Defender's Study Bible. I stopped using the Scofield mainly because of Scofield's teaching on the gap theory. Now I am reading here on this thread some pretty scary stuff about C.I.Scofield. Wow!
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06-24-2009, 11:09 AM (This post was last modified: 06-24-2009, 12:58 PM by sheep wrecked.)
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This does not surprise me about DTS. The Romish Church has been infiltrating Protestantism for decades and especially the Seminaries.
Go to this link to read on the Emergent Church and Catholic Mysticism.
Featured Articles are:
The Hazards unfolded by Emerging Church leaders
The Emerging Church and Catholic Mysticism
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Also, read from this page.
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[mod note: I changed the links in this post - you will have to copy and paste and put in the dot to use, as newbies are not allowed to post hot links ]
ttp://apprising dot org/2009/06/inward-journey-espoused-by-richard-foster-is-a-form-of-divination/
That's all for now. You are going to have to take some time and read these if you are interested in finding out what is behind this movement which is drawing many Believers into error. Brennan Manning, Rick Warren and the rest of your list is fairly representative, other key figures in the Emergent Church, Contemplative and Christian Mysticism movements are
mentioned. Some Roman Catholic priests are key figures in the Emergent Church movement. Also, corrupted and false Bible versions have watered down God's Word and made the "modern" versions very ecumenical.
The Ecumenical Movement (Counter Reformation still in action) is an attack on many, many fronts, working through many different organizations and movements. In many cases they are unsuspecting pawns due to the fact that God's Word is not their plumb line. They say it is, and these scholars can tell you what all the extra letters behind their names mean and how good they are at ancient Greek and Hebrew, but that does not impress me when what I see in them and their teachings is a basic denial of God's Word in English. Not impressed or intimidated by "scholars."
Unity at all costs, even the cost of the Truth of God's Word, is not the Unity that Jesus Christ is calling us to. Might as well just throw out the KJV Bible and parrot Rodney King.
Sorry folks, forgot to sign the above post.
The following quote is from the latest Critcal Issues Commentary article Richard Foster — Celebration Of Deception Evangelical Mysticism by Bob DeWaay, pastor of Twin City Fellowship and highlights another aspect of a growing rebellion within mainstream evangelicalism against Sola Scriptura.
http://apprising dot org/2009/06/inward-journey-espoused-by-richard-foster-is-a-form-of-divination/
Within DeWaay sends a clear Biblical warning concerning this core teaching of Contemplative Spirituality/Mysticism from Living Spiritual Teacher and Quaker mystic Richard Foster.
Foster's musings are really rooted in classic mysticism and actually comprise a large part of the faulty foundation of the deformation of the Faith becoming known as Emergence Christianity, now being spread throughout the visible church e.g. by Rob Bell and his friend Peter Rollins.
DeWaay is dead-on-target as he says:
Foster's "journey inward" is unbiblical and dangerous. I will show [in this article] that most of the spiritual disciplines that he calls "means of grace" are no means of grace at all—but a means of putting oneself under spiritual deception.
The Bible nowhere describes an inward journey to explore the realm of the spirit. God chose to reveal the truth about spiritual reality through His ordained, Spirit-inspired, biblical writers. What is spiritual and not revealed by God is of the occult and, therefore, forbidden. We have discussed this in many articles and have produced DVD seminars on the topic. But the concept of sola scriptura is totally lost on mystics such as Richard Foster. They, like the enthusiasts that Calvin and Luther warned against, believe they can gain valid and useful knowledge of spiritual things through direct, personal inspiration. Foster describes the idea of the disciplines that are the topic of his book: "The classical Disciplines of the spiritual life call us to move beyond surface living into the depths. They invite us to explore the inner caverns of the spiritual realm." [1]
So Foster has conceptually repudiated sola scriptura on page one to replace it with a journey inward to explore the realm of spirits. Something must have been seriously amiss in evangelicalism already in 1978 to render this book a bestseller! It ought to have been repudiated on the spot. In a footnote to that statement Foster writes, "In one form or another all of the devotional masters have affirmed the necessity of the Disciplines" (Foster: 1). The devotional "masters," by the way, are mostly Roman Catholics who never were committed to the principle of sola scriptura.
It is not surprising that they looked for spirituality through experimentation. But as an "inner light" Quaker, Foster never was committed to sola scriptura either. Forgetting that the Bible forbids divination, Foster explains what he is after: [W]e must be willing to go down into the recreating silences, into the inner world of contemplation. In their writings, all of the masters of meditation strive to awaken us to the fact that the universe is much larger than we know, that there are vast unexplored inner regions that are just as real as the physical world we know so well. . . . They call us to the adventure, to be pioneers in this frontier of the Spirit. (Foster: 13)
Realizing that his readers would likely take this as an endorsement of Eastern religions, he makes a disclaimer that it is not Transcendental Meditation or something of that ilk: "Eastern meditation is an attempt to empty the mind; Christian meditation is an attempt to empty the mind in order to fill it" (Foster: 15). But what Foster wishes us to fill our minds with are personal revelations from the spirit realm that we naively are to think are the voice of God. This sort of meditation is not meditating on what God has said, but uses a technique to explore the spirit world. In other words, it is divination. (Critical Issues Commentary, May/June 2009, 1)
Jer 12:5 If thou hast run with the footmen, and they have wearied thee, then how canst thou contend with horses? and if in the land of peace, wherein thou trustedst, they wearied thee, then how wilt thou do in the swelling of Jordan?
06-24-2009, 02:09 PM (This post was last modified: 06-24-2009, 02:14 PM by sheep wrecked.)
(06-24-2009, 11:09 AM)heb13-13 Wrote: Within DeWaay sends a clear Biblical warning concerning this core teaching of Contemplative Spirituality/Mysticism from Living Spiritual Teacher and Quaker mystic Richard Foster.
Although DeWaay appears to be warning against contemplative spirituality, and his statements can be viewed as not condoning it, I think he sends a mixed message
There has been some controversy over his stand on Rick Warren. DeWaay has been said to agree that Rick's doctrines are "evangelical". However, DeWaay does not think that because Rick's objectives and books do not reflect those doctrines it is not an issue. I would have to disagree that Rick's doctrine are Biblical and wonder how these Christian leaders can support each other when they are blatantly wrong
Richard Foster's emergent is part of Rick Warren's teachings and philosophies so how one can even think to support Warren is goofy, in my opinion. We are told to expose false teachings, not placate them
DeWaay is also a dispensationalist [pre-trib rapture and the salvation of national Israel], which in my opinion skews everything he teaches. Dispensationalism is a flat out denial of the New Covenant
From his statement of faith found on his church's website:
Quote: We believe in the literal fulfillment of Biblical prophecy. We affirm the continued place of national Israel in God's plan. There will be a literal rapture of the church, great tribulation, followed by the bodily return of Christ to bring judgment upon the nations and salvation to Israel. He will then set up a 1,000 year millennial reign in Jerusalem followed by the final judgment.
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(06-24-2009, 02:09 PM)sheep wrecked Wrote:(06-24-2009, 11:09 AM)heb13-13 Wrote: Within DeWaay sends a clear Biblical warning concerning this core teaching of Contemplative Spirituality/Mysticism from Living Spiritual Teacher and Quaker mystic Richard Foster.
Hi Sheep,
Very enlightening material on Bob Dewaay and I agree with you. I came across him a couple of weeks ago and even posted a paper on my blog that he wrote on Mysticism and Perfectionism - Is True Christianity Dead. I thought it was pretty good and did not know this other background about him. I will keep it in mind as I come across more of his papers.
Iron sharpeneth Iron.
Jer 12:5 If thou hast run with the footmen, and they have wearied thee, then how canst thou contend with horses? and if in the land of peace, wherein thou trustedst, they wearied thee, then how wilt thou do in the swelling of Jordan?
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(06-24-2009, 04:07 PM)heb13-13 Wrote: Hi Sheep,
What I have observed in a constant perusal of writings, is that it is common for authors/theologians to write against something and all the while actually promote it "under the table" dressed differently. This is what happens when people are more interested in their "soapbox" than they are in making sure they are not off in left field themselves.
Perhaps this is why James warns us:
Jam 3:1 My brothers do not be many teachers, knowing that we will receive greater judgment.
I am not against exposing the "works of darkness", but one has to be on the solid Rock, or they will end up slipping off into heresy aka ship wrecking their faith
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4. The greatest reigning error of this century is his teaching that promises a millennial kingdom on the earth after Christ returns for his church. (cf. Ro 8:18-23.)
I am at a complete loss to see how this passage refutes the notions of a millenial reign of the saints aftert the second coming.
As for the millenial reign revelation 20:4 is most clear, . . . those that received not the mark of the beast etc lived and reigned with christ a thousand years. this is the first resurrection.
Try and explain this verse, if you will, without explaining it away
To accuse Scofield of error in this smacks of emotional over reaction. If Scofield is the founding father of dispensationalism, I reject that on the ground that there is only ever one way to be saved, by faith, and none other. thus there were two covenants, (not 7 dispensations)the first covenant being a ministry of death (the Law) to lock us into helplessness (look it up in Romans and Galatians) and thus to make our need manifest. no one was edver saved by law keeping, or by conscience (one of Scofields 7 dispensations)
But to accuse him if error her when he is not in error on this point is the kind of emotional reaction I simply cannot be bothered refuting the more i see emotional reactions presenting themselves as serious theological thought when they are nothing of the sort.
Now I have nothing overly hard against emotional reactions. I am full of them myself , and I bring them to God as the sins they are, to repent of those sins under his grace.
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(06-25-2009, 01:54 AM)Strefanash Wrote: someone:
As they say, a dead clock is right twice a day
I find it interesting that the millennial reign of Christ per Revelations is taken as literal, when most of Rev is viewed as allegorical. We need to think Spiritual, not physical because the rest of the NT does not indicate a "holding pattern" when Christ returns - not to mention Scofield's inaccurate statement concerning the church [pre-trib rapture]
I think people are unnecessarily hung up on this one point to the exclusion of the rest of scripture, in my opinion
The worst part is that Scofield is a false teacher and an ungodly man. That puts his spin on Scripture in a false light, regardless if you agree with a point or two. His expounding is based on a false premise, and therefore; the definition is skewed. That would be like Alister Crowley [satanist] interpreting Scripture
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who views most of revelation as allegorical?
I wil grant that the 4 horses of the apocalypse are symbolic. but symbolic of what? war, conquest, famine and death. and that is where we are heading.
If we hold revelation as allegorical we have to hold Jesus discourse in Matt 24 as allegorical also (wars, rumours of wars, and great tribulation)
I certainly do not hold revelation as allegorical. In fact I regard an allegorical view of rev as a violation of scripture. after all St Paul spoke of the man of sin (clearly the antichrist). Paul also spoke of godlessness waxing mightily in the end days. and this exactly what a literal view of revelation reveals.
My view of God was never a sentimental hearts and flowers view, so that his terrible wrath will fall on man to almost exterminate them is entirely in keeping with the Lord of Israel.
And it, revelation, speaks of hell as the lake of fire exactly as Jesus spoke if it: eternal torment
So what reasons are there to regard revelation as allegorical? that the early church did not like it when it was let speak plainly so it had to be twisted into something palatable?
They did this with the Song of Songs also
We need to think Spiritual, not physical
Stref: I am sorry but this is a false dichotomy, and it is a core of the thinking that lead to the gnostic heresy. I will regard a passage as metaphorical when it says it is (as in "Jesus came to them speaking parables") or when a contradiction is set up with other passages that speak even more plainly by taking the passage in as literal. buti wil think very hard indeed before taking a passage as metaphorical
as for "holding pattern" what holding pattern?
the dead in christ will come to life and reign with him a thousand years then after that comes the second resurrection (AFTER the millenium). deny this passage as literal and the timing of events is off. when is the second resurrection, the ressurectiuon of the damned, if there is no literal millenium? also what about the binding of satan? he is not bound now, as he walks about as a lion seeking who to devour. if there is no literal milenium when if ever wil satan be bound to then be released for a brief time
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Skip to comments.Pope Francis' first moves hint at break with past
Posted on 03/16/2013 2:08:29 PM PDT by cothrige
The first 48 hours of the pontificate of Pope Francis have given the world a foretaste of what it is going to be like to have a Jesuit priest for the first time in history as leader of the world's 1.2 billion Catholic believers.
Minutes after the election result was declared in the Sistine Chapel, a Vatican official called the Master of Ceremonies offered to the new Pope the traditional papal red cape trimmed with ermine that his predecessor Pope Benedict XVI gladly wore on ceremonial occasions.
"No thank you, Monsignore," Pope Francis is reported to have replied. "You put it on instead. Carnival time is over!"
It was just one small sign out of many this week that as Massimo Franco, one of Italy's shrewdest political editorial writers, commented in the Corriere Della Sera, "the era of the Pope-King and of the Vatican court is over".
You only had to look at the shocked faces of many of the courtiers when they suddenly realised the significance of what had happened and understood that it really was over.
(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...
I'm a Protestant, but I'm pretty excited about this Pope.
This comes from a legitimate news source, which makes it interesting, but it seems almost impossible to believe. Could the new pope have been this hostile and rude, both to his predecessor and Msgr. Marini? I wonder.
Maybe it wasn't rude. I first thought he was referring to carn-i-VAL, the time of celebration before Lent, the period of repentance and self-denial. It seems like good symbolism to me.
Maybe it was carnival in the root sense, as in "festival of the flesh".
I doubt Jesus wore elaborate clothes.
I'm sure he wore furs to keep warm, not as decor.
I LOVE Pope Francis!
He doesn't seem to have any pharisee blood in him.
not all Americans know the term FASCHING ~ but they do know what A CARNIVAL is ~ but I take it he was referring to the period of time when such festivals and parades take place ~ and, that's over.
Fatti non Parole. It will be interesting to see what he does with the curial appointments. He has a rare opportunity now to clear the decks. Oremus.
I read that the last Pope took out a non-performing Bishop a month, on average.
The Rock of Rome.
The mediaites hated Benedict, but they're going to be shocked to see that they've actually ended up with somebody much stronger. BXVI was very committed to orthodox morality and doctrine, but he was so much of a scholar and a mystic that the folks at the Vatican and the secular world could run right over him. That's why he resigned, because he knew we needed somebody stronger.
And Pope Francis is strong, uncompromising, and is really going to p.o. the press in a big way...
I have my doubts about the accuracy. It happened while the Conclave was still sealed. For someone to have related this means someone broke the vow of secrecy. Now I can understand the comment on the papal apartment since the Pope is, by all accounts, accustomed to a simpler lifestyle.
I hope I live long enough to see something similar happen in the Washington, DC area.
One of the best gifts of BXVI was that he cleaned up the bishops, mostly through the work of Ouellet. BXVI made some very bad appointments of people in the curia, mostly because he had worked with them for so long he felt beholden, and they completely ignored him.
Ouellet was one of his excellent appointments, and if you have a good bishop, thank him (and BXVI, of course!).
new age (relatively speaking) Pope?
I don't believe Pope Francis would have said that. But who can contradict it now that it's out on the net?
One of the reasons BXVI resigned, I believe, was that this happened to him more than once: unattributed "quotes" coming from people who had a vested interest in bringing him down. And he was too old and frail to control them.
For instance, much has been made about his living in an apartment when in Buenos Aires rather than the normal residence, which I gather was rather palatial. Okay, it sounds good, but if the Church still owned the house reserved for the cardinal all it really amounted to was creating a new rent bill for the Church. How does that help anyone? If a person spends more money so that they can live somewhere that looks cheaper then the motive appears to be entirely about how things look, which is not exactly as humble as it seems at first sight.
Just something I am thinking about as I watch and read during these early days of this new papacy.
In charity we must assume that the episcopal residence was utilized for other purposes during his tenure.
Lord grant me charity though.
I think this Pope is going to avoid any signs of ostentation. He showed several signs of that in his first minutes as Pope.
He refused the red cape and first appeared to the people wearing simple white papal robes and black shoes.
Rather than bless the crowd first, he asked them to pray for him. He is a humble man.
The pontiff also broke with another tradition by refusing to use a platform to elevate himself above the cardinals standing with him as he was introduced to the world as Pope Francis. He said, "I'll stay down here".
not all Americans know the term FASCHING ~ but they do know what A CARNIVAL is ~ but I take it he was referring to the period of time when such festivals and parades take place ~ and, thats over.
I take it you are saying that he had in mind the Carnival celebration preceding Lent? I think that would be likely true, if he actually said this at all. However, I can't see how that would mitigate anything? The mozetta which our new pope refused to wear is not a Carnival costume after all. Therefore, such a statement would seem to most people I think to be quite dismissive of the previous pope and the MC Msgr. Marini. Is it really possible he would have said such a thing? I just don't know.
I'm inclined to agree. The rad trads are very upset (and their schismatic tendencies came out on the first day when they slimed the new pope on the basis of the tiniest shreds of evidence. They are all convinced he's liturgically tin-eared, as most Jesuits are.
He may indeed be that. But even if he is, it's not the end of the world (and I write that as one devoted to the Extraordinary Form but not to the exclusion of the NO) and so the incredible overreaction was way out of line.
I'm guessing this quotation is a distortion of something that did happen (he may indeed have rejected the ermine-trimmed cape, which does have a technical name, but the BBC could be caught dead mentioning it, but even if he chose not to wear it I very much doubt he said the words put in his mouth here), a distortion DELIBERATELY spread abroad in the press by his enemies who seek to split off from him all those who love the old liturgy and traditions.
Divide and conquer.
Or did he take out guys younger than 75 by making them an offer they couldn't refuse? ("Resign now or I'll depose you" -- or something like that)?
I'd be grateful for clarification on that.
In charity we must assume that the episcopal residence was utilized for other purposes during his tenure.
Lord grant me charity though.
I know what you mean and second your prayer for myself. I am trying not to be uncharitable either to our Holy Father or to any others serving Holy Mother Church in their small ways. But, I do find myself wondering about these things and what they mean. Perhaps his house was utilised very efficiently and served the Church in some way while he didn't live there. Maybe he even used it as a shelter for people or some such (though surely that would be printed in every source if true) or just an office. I don't know, and won't pretend to. But, I do worry about people who are so persistently and publicly humble. There are people in this world who take a bit too much pride in being humble, and so I am not going to swallow down the media theme of our humble pope any quicker than I did their insistence that our last one was a Nazi. I will wait and see what some of the real fruits of his pontificate are and then decide what I think is true.
I think The Church may well have a Pope that is for go, not for show.
Maybe he's a crypto-protestant ~ after all they never came out in the open in Italy, and only briefly in Spain. In Argentina he's been known to associate with them.
Thanks. Sure hope so.
I remembering hearing that his residency was used for a school , I think, for poor children, and some may have also resided there with the nuns.
A Jesuit is a different breed of priest, open and honest.
A needed fresh beeze has arrived in Rome.
Divide and conquer is their program. That said, I was as stunned as you are by the rad trads and their vituperative, foul-mouthed reaction. There isn't an EF mass at my Cathedral parish, and the two that do exist in the diocese are so horrible they look like parodies (the worst liturgical hits of 1955, howled into a mic by one or two of the worst voices of the 21st century, combined with priests who barely know their way around). However, I have always supported it and I thought it would be nice to bring it back...until now. Then I suddenly realized that a lot of people involved with it have no interest in the faith. They're all out there broadening their phylacteries, and could just as easily be high-church Anglicans, as far as the Faith is concerned.
So I've sort of bailed on the project. I think the best thing of all would be to go back to the 1965 missal (mostly in the vernacular, but simply a translation of the 1962 missal with a few minor changes) and start over. It wouldn't upset the rational EF people, and I think it would be perfectly acceptable to most of the non-doctrinaire Novus Ordo folks.
Actually, that's what everybody thought the "new mass" that was announced was going to be: nobody expected the Novus Ordo, and it was a real shock to everybody, including the clergy, and was imposed with great ferocity by the boy bishops (such as Mahony) appointed under Paul VI.
So maybe we should start over again. But that said, the important thing is the faith, and while Francis may not be a great liturgist, I don't think he would approve of anything that distorted the Faith, and that's what matters.
I am looking at that picture of His sweet open smile - and it is morphing from: Let Us Pray - to - Let Us Prey !
Go get em' , Holy Father !
(I noted in a previous thread that I read someplace that he was known to be an ___-kicker. Very nice when combined with his obvious deep humility.)
The title of this article makes people think that our Francis is just panting to break from "the past."
The lame streamers can't wait to find some crack in the armor and exploit it, even if they have to make it all up.
They either don't know what makes this guy tick or are afraid of what makes him tick.
Either way, we need to pray for him daily, like he asked us to do.
No, don't bail on the EF. Benedict was right to set it free and it will have a salutary effect on the OF. I deliberately used "rad trads." I'm a trad myself. Only some traditionalists are rad trads consumed by a fundamentally schismatic mentality. Many others are not. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
Martin Luther was a traditionalist reformer. Many of his complaints were fully justified. But he took on a schismatic mentality when confronted in 1518. He would not have had to go that route. Traditional reformers need not be schismatic.
I remembering hearing that his residency was used for a school , I think, for poor children, and some may have also resided there with the nuns.
Interesting. I do hope it is true as it would offer more substance to the stories.
"This place stinks of God!"And my personal favorite:
"Any Christian who is not a hero is a pig."
"The only mistake in life is not to become a saint."I would need some confirmation, though, before I'd believe this post from the BBC, but for Pope Francis to quote [the direct] Leon Bloy from the get-go, was interesting. Here's more on Bloy:
Bloy was a remarkable French writer...who was responsible for the conversion in 1905 of the Maritains, Jacques and Raïssa. Bloy was, and is still, a much-neglected literary genius - neglected in part because of the vehemence of his writing, which seems to well up from a source as deep as some Old Testament prophet...The following passage is from Jacques introduction to Léon Bloy: Pilgrim of the Absolute...
All his life he hated injustice, loved the poor and the forsaken, hoped - with what impatience! - for the revelation of Gods Glory... He ardently desired martyrdom, he thought himself destined to it, he expected it in the form of a bloody and extraordinary immolation that was refused him... --Jacques Maritain
I believe it was used to house an order that had nowhere else to go.
That's why I automatically try to find a charitable explanation for the actions and words of others... and an uncharitable explanation for my own. I'm a cranky so and so sometimes.
It takes a lot of money to run one of those huge residences.
Pope Francis has a big, happy, confident smile. He may be humble, but he's not a doormat. Things (and people) are going to go his way or the highway, in my opinion.
I like him alot.
Will pray for him. Not sure what makes him "tick" either. I think this Pope will change or do thing we have not thought of yet.
Things (and people) are going to go his way or the highway, in my opinion.-lol- I love it...
The people applauding the end of the, "Pope-King" and, "Vatican Court" need to read some history.
They're applauding their own delusion that there will be a "common man" cluster frolic of the sort they want to see when the fact is what they're getting is the stripped down, no frills, intensely focused, victory oriented, court of a Warrior King.
My bet is they're going to like what's coming a lot less than they liked the "Vatican Court" they complained about mostly because they envied it's traditions and obvious connections to two thousand years of Christianity.
I'm still busy laughing at all the people who are upset that he isn't an Ayn Rand libertarian type.
In any case I admire a Pope who shuns security details and drives a cheap Volkswagon over a Merc.
Well, until about 3 days ago, I considered myself a trad. But with what has been revealed about these people, I want nothing to do with them.
I would suspect that groups such as the FSSP and possibly even the SSPX (which sent a very nice official message to Francis) are going to be fine. There's an FSSP mass in my part of Florida - but it's about a two hour drive, so I probably won't be going. And I sure don't want to spend time with the loonies in the local EF mass, who are now congratulating themselves on being more Catholic than the Pope.
I now see that one of the reasons the EF hasn't spread very effectively is the attitude of many of its supporters. But not until now did I realize that it was this bad.
Me too...prayers going up.
Pax et bonum,
I now see that one of the reasons the EF hasnt spread very effectively is the attitude of many of its supporters. But not until now did I realize that it was this bad.
I don't know about this overall. I have spent a great deal of time discussing issues with traditionalists, though I am not technically one myself as I don't speak any Latin and have never been to a traditional Mass. I have found them to be no different than anyone else when it comes to their decency or general courtesy. I read a great deal of what was posted this week on sites like Rorate-Caeli and fisheaters and have noticed some noise and discontent, but it was not nearly so bad as I have heard from the many other people regarding them. A few posters have been quite vocal, but these seem mostly to be sede-vacantists rather than run-of-the-mill trads. A number of people on these sites did voice their worries and concerns, but were mostly reasonable about it and generally avoided being nasty overall. And even these seemed mostly to come from a vocal minority rather than a general consensus. At least that was my experience.
But, one of the most interesting things I noticed at these sites and others is how many people are saying they will no longer support the EF because of these people's attitude. I found that very strange. I mean, after all, Mormons are amazingly nice people and yet it has never caused me or anyone I know to consider leaving the Catholic Church and becoming LDS. I have never been to a traditional Mass, but if I were able to go and found it spiritually uplifting and I thought it helped me grow closer to God I would continue to go. If I found it didn't then I would not. The attitudes of other practitioners doesn't seem to particularly enter into it for me.
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Use Tunnel Setback To Dig Downtown Seaport Out Of A Hole
Written by Michael Lewis on April 16, 2009
By Michael Lewis
As downtown truck traffic grew year by year officials sat idle, awaiting a Port of Miami tunnel in 2012 to unclog streets.
Guess what? While they rocked, the tunnel faded to a mere maybe for 2016 or later — and truck traffic keeps multiplying.
The state had joined the county and City of Miami in 2007 to hire a team to bore from Watson Island to the seaport. But the state last week started the process over, saying it would meet with local governments and then decide by July what it wants to do.
Rationale for a tunnel has been to thin traffic, benefitting residents and businesses plus shippers, who moved nearly 8 million tons here in 2007, and the Port of Miami, which vies to enhance its status among top cargo hubs.
Officials meanwhile shunned other traffic relievers because they feared, correctly, that if they succeeded no one would risk $1.7 billion or more to dig a very steep tunnel under Biscayne Bay.
If a tunnel were the only answer it would be worth a look, because the seaport is a strong economic engine, with an estimated $17 billion annual impact supporting 176,000 jobs, and cargo is up 5% this year. Moving freight quickly is imperative.
But sentiment is building to try other means to thin traffic now, because we have nothing to lose and everything to gain.
Foes of a rapid fix, however, have vested interests in pouring money under the bay.
County Commission Chairman Dennis Moss, who is as firmly committed to spending $1.7 billion on a tunnel as he was last month to spending $2 billion on an equally vital baseball stadium, said in a statement last week, "Long ago it was determined that the Port Tunnel was the best way to alleviate port access concerns…"
That's true — but only because the county refused to look at other solutions when it voted to dig the tunnel, or since.
But we must now revisit those assumptions of long ago.
We're deep in recession, short of cash, and the state has started over. A tunnel is now seven or more years away even if we can find a plan that can be financed and a gold-plated bidder willing to do it at $1.7 billion or how much more?
So, with scarce funds targeted for stadiums and bailouts for performing arts centers and Jungle Island and children's museums and anyone else who comes for a handout, it's time to look at realistic alternatives.
The simplest and least costly way to unclog downtown is to have truckers enter and leave the seaport at night and pre-dawn. That, in weeks, could do the trick. And even tunnel proponents recognize that to meet its competition the seaport must begin 24-hour work.
A second answer is to ship port cargo overnight by rail. A train to the port that can haul as much as 100 or more trucks now runs one night weekly, handling 8% of cargo. Run it seven nights and it's 56%.
A third response is to ship some port cargo in small boats up the Miami River to hubs that would link with trucks far from downtown. Large hubs in West Dade could transship cargo from containers coming via rail.
All of these solutions could begin now. None is costly. Even if we couldn't deter government from eventually squandering $1.7 billion on a tunnel whose financial, construction and maintenance risks would be far greater, these three measures could speed cargo today.
A fourth prong is to run a $24 million ramp onto I-95 from Northeast Sixth Street and open two more traffic lanes, offering a straight shot into and out of the port without snarling roads north of downtown.
Those four combined would benefit sea cargo lines, which oppose the tunnel. They wouldn't harm cruise lines, which reject the tunnel. They would aid downtown interests, who want to thin traffic.
Even truckers who must work in the quiet hours would benefit, because with low traffic overnight they could make more trips to and from the port in less time, increasing profits.
So, who wouldn't win? Officials who benefit somehow when government spends massively.
But by not digging, the City of Miami would retain $88 million and Miami-Dade would have $402 million to use elsewhere. Maybe that can persuade government not to pour $1.7 billion into a hole under Biscayne Bay — at least, not without trying solid alternatives.
Commissioner Moss and colleagues need to reexamine their vote of years ago in light of new realities, not blindly follow a road that would sink vital resources.
Those in government with the vision to spark quicker, cheaper and safer solutions should get the process rolling.
The state's detour of a tunnel deal is no painful setback, but rather a vital opportunity we must seize immediately.
Instead of sitting rocking while waiting seven more years for a tunnel, become a 24-hour port for trucking, add rail runs, utilize the Miami River and add off-port cargo hubs. Right now, end downtown's traffic snarl inexpensively and speed vital cargo on its way.


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"These are such a glamorous pair. I bought the golden ones. The glitter might look like its a lot but if you have outfits to match these up with they look awesome. I wish I got the ones in the black too for my nights out with the girls"
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April 01, 2012
These are on clearance for a reason
"These shoes look amazing. They fit amazingly and they are super stylish. There's just one problem: they come looking like they've already been worn. The pair I received were already coming apart at the seams and had big splotches of glue and places where it looks like glitter used to be. I returned them and found another pair in the clearance section and those had similar issues. I would not recommend buying this shoe."
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March 20, 2012
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The equipment used for smaller scale clearance of material such as sand, rubble, brush etc. Is the Crawler dozer. Smaller than the bulldozer, these machines also have tracks instead of wheels, which distributes the ground pressure while moving ahead with the front blade. The tracks distribute the load which is ideal in construction terrain that can be damaged easily such as gravel and sand.
available horsepowers
As loader dozers are typically used to knock down large hillsides and load the material onto haul trucks, dump trucks or tandems, the amount of material to be moved or loaded determines what size of loader dozer to use. As moving and lifting extra-large boulders is another job that is almost exclusively the work of a loader dozer, the general size of the rocks is another determining factor.
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Virgin Blue Congratulates Canberra Airport06/12/2007
Virgin Blue today congratulated Canberra Airport on its planned multi-million dollar terminal redevelopment that is set to position the airport as one of the most modern and efficient in the country.
Virgin Blue has been in close consultation with Canberra Airport regarding the project and has thrown its full support behind the redevelopment right from the drawing board.
Virgin Blue General Manager, Ground Operations, Andrew Lillyman, said, "We offer a hearty congratulations to the team at Canberra Airport for committing to such a comprehensive and bold terminal overhaul and we very much look forward to continuing to work with them on it."
The terminal redevelopment announcement comes hot on the heels of Virgin Blue's recent additional commitment to Canberra with the opening in August of its brand new corporate Lounge facility for Guests travelling to and from the nation's capital.
Virgin Blue also recently confirmed it will launch direct flights between Canberra and Sydney from February next year under the "Capital Jet" banner, operating eight daily services using the executive style Embraer E-Jets to provide competition on the key route.
The airline has repositioned itself from a traditional Low Cost Carrier to a New World Carrier, with this strategy proving instrumental in attracting an increasing share of business and Government travellers.
Andrew Lillyman continued, "These are progressive times for both Virgin Blue and Canberra Airport. The expansion plans for both the airport and the airline will mean more space for Virgin Blue to grow, a sleek new area for The Lounge to move to and a more comfortable and enjoyable environment for travellers."
By 2009, Canberra Airport will become one of the most significant ports in the entire Virgin Blue network, with the airline almost doubling flights to the city. It will position Canberra just behind the mainline ports of Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane in terms of aircraft movement and capacity.
Multi award winning airline Virgin Blue and international carriers Pacific Blue and Polynesian Blue currently operate a fleet of 60 modern Boeing 737 and Embraer E-Jet aircraft flying to 22 Australian and eight international destinations including New Zealand, Fiji, Samoa, Tonga, Vanuatu and the Cook Islands. Virgin Blue was the first airline in the world to launch a Government-certified carbon offset program, where Guests can offset the carbon emissions from their flights. Virgin Blue Group has also announced plans to launch Australia's newest international airline, V Australia, set to commence flights between Australia and the USA from late 2008, subject to regulatory approvals


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The way dining should be.
Winter Park has over 30 restaurants which offer a variety of delectable cuisines. Have Chinese delivered to your resort or run out for fast food. Take the family to Sunspot, a quiet upscale lodge located at the summit. Sample some of the 300 wines found at Deno's Mountain Bistro.
When guests hear the Derailer Bar train whistle blow at 2 p.m., it's time to head in for Winter Park's favorite aprŤs ski scene and "blow off a little steam." The Derailer Bar is a two-level bar offering a full-service lunch menu featuring pub-style food and a variety of daily drink specials.
The Moffat Market at West Portal Station features such stores as The Moffat Tunnel grill; Grand Central Station's New York-style pizza; Shortline's soups; and Einstein Bros. Bagels.
Watch mountain action while enjoying home-brewed caffeinated concoctions along with daily servings of home-baked sweets at the Coffee and Tea Market, located in Balcony House at the base of Winter Park Mountain.
Doc's Roadhouse, located in the Zephyr Mountain Lodge, serves up the best roadhouse fare in the county. This full-service, sit-down restaurant features burgers, sandwiches, and salads as well as an extensive kid-friendly menu. New this winter: Doc's will be serving up a great pancake breakfast, available daily starting at 8 a.m. or aprŤs in Doc's upstairs venue, the Coors Lounge, featuring leather couches and cold Coors beer and whiskey from Buffalo Trace. Starbucks is also located in the Zephyr Mountain Lodge and opens daily at 8 a.m.
Lime, an American cantina, is located near the gazebo and pond and is your source for great tacos and mighty margaritas.
Cheeky Monk, a Belgian beer cafť, offers a taste of Belgium right in The Village at Winter Park. The owner is always on the lookout for the rarest and best beers, and currently offers an impressive drink menu, featuring 14 Belgian imported beers on draught and 20 Belgian imported bottles. Beers are hand-selected to pair with the flavorful dining menu highlighting the uniqueness, style, and taste of each beer. Cheeky Monk offers such well-known beers as Lucifer Golden Ale, Bacchus Sour and Hopsinjoor Blond Ale, as well as rare offerings from the Trappiste Monasteries.
Five Mountain Tavern offers family-friendly dining and entertainment located at the top of the FREE Village Cabriolet and inside the Vintage Hotel. Open daily at 2 pm, The Five Mountain Tavern serves the best gourmet burgers and root beer floats around. The full bar offers a selection of draft beer daily drink specials.
Goody's in The Village at Winter Park opened in July of 2009 and has become a big hit with kids of all ages. This old-fashioned soda fountain, creperie, and ice cream parlor offers a wide array of sweet treats and drinks.
The Back Bowl Soup Company is open in The Village at Winter Park and will offer several homemade soup choices daily along with gourmet grilled cheese sandwiches made on a variety of breads, with your choice of cheese and spreads. Classic deli offerings will also be available.


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We need to remember that Nagato himself was strongly influence by Madara's will, simply looking at the sheer amount of black rods attached to his body. This is why Tobi himself needed to check what caused a change in Nagato, who was so strongly influenced.
It was suggest a few times, that Naruto's Uzumaki-like Life Energy (or whatever he has) is what makes people want to talk to him and spew their guts out. It is likely that by sending/emanating those energies, he decreased the influence that Madara's will/black rods had on Nagato. It is quite likely that Hashirama himself was influencing Madara each time they were close to each other, which is also hinted in the recent flashbacks. This would as well explain what Tobi meant by saying that he sees Hashirama in Naruto, in accordance to changing Nagato's mind.


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Cheap jewelry turned into valuable evidence
LAGUNA NIGUEL – Cathy Coltman didn't realize the value of her Avon cubic zirconium ring.
At least not until she got it back during a viewing of stolen property presented by the Orange County Sheriff's Department at Laguna Niguel City Hall.
Coltman was one of dozens of people from across the county who looked through at least 100 items laid out on tables. Most of the items, like Colfman's piece, were costume jewelry. There also were some watches, Turkish and South American coins, and a couple of fake designer purses.
The viewing Wednesday included items found with two Fullerton men arrested on suspicion of burglary Dec. 21 in Laguna Niguel.
The two, identified as Michael Guerrero, 22, and Justin Eatenton, 25, were first arrested by Fullerton police Dec. 19 in connection with another burglary and were released.
Sheriff's investigators followed leads from burglaries in Lake Forest, Laguna Hills, Laguna Niguel, Dana Point, Ladera Ranch and San Clemente and arrested the two.
Investigators accuse them of burglarizing dozens of homes from August through December. Investigators say the thefts resulted in at least $100,000 in losses. Some items believed to be stolen were found in Eatenton's Ford Explorer, and others were found at Guerrero's home, sheriff's investigator Liz Henriquez said.
Guerrero and Eatenton have been arraigned and are due back in court Feb. 27 for a pretrial hearing.
Henriquez and sheriff's investigator Aubrey Carroll said those responsible for the burglaries knew what they were doing and likely sold the more expensive jewelry as fast as they could. A gold-testing kit helped them determine which pieces to move first, Henriquez said.
"Since the price of gold has gone up, we've seen a spike in jewelry thefts," Henriquez said. "Pawn shops are mandated by laws to keep details of transactions, (but) jewelry shops are not and make it easier for people to get rid of it."
That's what happened in Coltman's case. On Dec. 3, she left her Laguna Niguel home excited to go Christmas shopping. She remembers noticing a man standing on the corner of her street but disregarded her intuition to go home and make sure her windows and doors were locked.
"Thirty-six years of a perfectly safe home; I didn't want to go backward, and shoved the intuition away," she said.
Two hours later, around noon, she got home and saw that the window next to the front door had been pried open. The nearby chair was scooted to the side. And when she got to her bedroom, she saw that it was ransacked. Drawers were open and a case with 40 years of jewelry was emptied. It had contained gold, silver, pearls, diamonds and her mother's heirloom jewelry. She later found that nine other homes in the area had been hit.
"My safe little neighborhood is over in my mind," she said. "I feel like my bubble is popped. If someone wants to find a way into your home, they will. With the price of gold so high, they're going to come in."
About a month ago, Coltman and others were invited to a first viewing of some of the stolen items. Colfman was disappointed when only the costume jewelry had been found. She saw her fake silver ring, but seeing it was depressing, and she walked by without claiming it. She didn't want to be reminded of the crime.
When she heard about this week's viewing, she hoped there would be more. But there on the table was that cheap ring. She told Henriquez it was hers but that she didn't really want it.
That's when Coltman learned of its real, non-monetary value. Henriquez said that by identifying the ring, Colfman strengthened the case against the the men who had it in their possession.
"She was so happy to get it back when she realized what it meant," Henriquez said. "Even though it was a cheap piece of jewelry, she realized what it meant to the case."
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You are sick and feel miserable. So you go to your doctor for antibiotics to kill what ails you. But instead, your doctor takes a different treatment route that does not include prescribing antibiotics. So why won't your doctor give you antibiotics? Sometimes drugs can be more harmful than helpful.
Many things can give you an infectious illness, such as bacteria, viruses, fungi, or other microorganisms. The most commonly prescribed antibiotics only work against bacteria. Therefore, they will not be helpful if a virus or other microorganism causes your condition. When prescribed appropriately and taken correctly, antibiotics can be very effective. They can shorten the time you are sick and keep the disease from spreading to others.
Perhaps because they seem so effective, doctors may have a tendency to prescribe them too often, even when there is not anything for them to treat or you would have gotten better just as quickly without them. Over time, many bacteria adapt to resist antibiotics, making these medications less effective or unable to work at all. This occurs even in bacteria not responsible for the illness that just live in your body.
Antibiotic resistance is harmful. As more antibiotics are introduced into our environment, by either over-prescribing or entering our food chain through their use in the dairy, poultry, and livestock industries, more strains of bacteria have the potential to become resistant. Some strains of bacteria that are already resistant to antibiotics include:
Some bacteria may be resistant to only one antibiotic, while others are resistant to a range of antibiotics. Bacteria can pass this ability to resist multiple antibiotics on to other bacteria, even wihout the presence of antibiotics.
These multidrug-resistant bacteria create a challenge for doctors. Patients with conditions caused by these types of bacteria not only endure longer hospital stays, but they may also have to take many drugs in hopes that one of the medications or the combination of medications will work. Often these drugs can be toxic and ineffective. Patients infected with antibiotic-resistant bacteria are more likely to die from their illnesses.
So when is an antibiotic right for you? That is for your doctor to decide. In cases when your doctor decides against antibiotics, it is most likely because a virus causes your condition or it will go away without medication.
A cold and the flu are caused by viruses. Antibiotics are not useful in treating these conditions or their symptoms. In certain circumstances, a bacterial infection can develop during a cold or flu. In these situations, antibiotics may be prescribed.
Viruses also cause many runny noses, congested sinuses, coughs, and sore throats. These can also be caused by bacterial infections, so it is important to try to establish which. For example, if your sore throat is caused by bacteria, as in strep throat, your doctor will prescribe antibiotics, but using antibiotics for a viral sore throat may cause problems without providing any benefit.
Viruses or bacteria can cause middle ear infections. Your doctor will determine if antibiotic treatment is needed.
UTIs are most often caused by bacteria and are usually treated with antibiotics.
You may also be prescribed antibiotics if bacteria are known to cause your illness or the cause is unknown and the doctor determines it is better to treat with antibiotics.
If your doctor does decide to prescribe antibiotics, it is important that you follow all dosing instructions carefully and completely. This is true for any medications your doctor may prescribe.
Although generally safe, if you are taking antibiotics there are some things you should know:
It is important to tell your doctor if you are pregnant, think you may be pregnant, or are nursing. Certain antibiotics may be harmful to your baby.
Now that you are aware of why your doctor may or may not give you antibiotics, it is important that you continue to have open discussions about your treatment options. Ask questions. Share any information regarding your medical history. Discuss side effects that concern you. And if you do not understand something, speak up. Having a 2-way discussion will help your doctor plan the best treatment approach for you.
Family Doctor—American Academy of Family Physicians
US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
Canadian Medical Association
Health Canada
About antimicrobial resistance: a brief overview. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention website. Available at: http://www.cdc.gov/drugresistance/about.html. Updated September 16, 2013. Accessed February 19, 2015.
Understanding Antimicrobial Resistance. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases website. Available at: http://www.niaid.nih.gov/topics/antimicrobialresistance/understanding/Pages/default.aspx. Updated April 3, 2012. Accessed February 19, 2015.
What is Antibiotic Resistance and Why is it a problem? Alliance for the Prudent Use of Antibiotics website. Available at: http://www.tufts.edu/med/apua/about_issue/antibiotic_res.shtml. Accessed February 19, 2015.
Last reviewed February 2015 by Michael Woods, MD
Please be aware that this information is provided to supplement the care provided by your physician. It is neither intended nor implied to be a substitute for professional medical advice. CALL YOUR HEALTHCARE PROVIDER IMMEDIATELY IF YOU THINK YOU MAY HAVE A MEDICAL EMERGENCY. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider prior to starting any new treatment or with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.
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I'm not forgiving 2012 for this one.
This morning we learned about the death of beloved actor Andy Griffith. Though "The Andy Griffith Show" went off the air decades before I was born, my mom made sure I watched it. I was raised on that show. We have our favorite episodes and moments – like anything invovling the Darlings, and I love to hear, "It's me, it's me, it's Ernest T!"
But Griffith has done much more than the show.
One of my favorite Andy moments comes from the movie "Waitress" that came out a few years ago. The dramady stars Keri Russell as Jenna, young pie-maker who finds out she's pregnant by her horrible, abusive husband. Andy plays Old Joe, a lovable curmudgeon who's a regular at Jenna's restaurant. He offers a few wise words of advice in between being a total grumpy old man, but he's so charming.
What's your favorite Andy moment – from a movie or from his days as Sheriff Taylor or Matlock?