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By PATSY STODDARDEditor
The Emery County Commissioners met in their regularly scheduled meeting on Sept. 17 at 9 a.m. Those present were Commissioners Randy Johnson, Ira Hatch and Drew Sitterud. Sheriff Lamar Guymon and County Attorney Dave Blackwell were also present.
The first item on the agenda was the check edit list, additional claims, requisitions and dispositions. Clerk Bruce Funk presented the lists to the commission. They discussed the costs associated with the rodeo and cleanup. They will look at the budget and adjust costs for next year. The costs relating to the housing of female prisoners in other facilities will no longer be incurred. Sheriff Guymon said they have picked up all county female prisoners and are now housing them in the new public safety complex. There are already four female prisoners over what they have beds for.
Another item was the costs associated with the rental of porta-potty units for job sites. Road department manager Rex Funk said the employees were balking at the idea of having to haul their own unit around and be responsible for seeing it is maintained. The matter will be discussed further before any decision is made. A new couch and loveseat will be purchased for the airport lobby. A digital camera will be purchased with funds from the safe communities grant. A request for a new validator for the recorder's office was also approved.
The next item was Pat Snowball with personnel matters. She requested an officer in the Sheriff's Office be moved from dispatch to a corrections officer. In the road department she asked that the resignation of Kern Behling be accepted. This vacated position will be advertised in house first and then available positions will be filled from the roster. Also a position of temporary laborer was approved.
The next item was the approval of the indigent tax abatement. This abatement was for seven residents who had turned in the required information and approved for such an allowance which can only include a tax abatement of 50 percent of total taxes due.
The next item was the closing of the board of equalization. The next item was the setting of budget work meetings and setting a date for the public hearing for the adoption of the budget. This budget hearing will be at the Dec. 17 commission meeting at 6 p.m. It will be preceded by a public hearing at 5:30 p.m. The canvassing of the election results was also set for Nov. 19 at 1 p.m. The budget work meetings will be held on Oct. 4 at 9 a.m., Oct. 8 at 1 p.m., Oct. 18 at 9 a.m. and Oct. 21 at 9 a.m. These work meetings are just the beginning in a series of meetings with each department in the county to assess their needs and set their budgets for the coming year.
The next item on the agenda was Mayor Glen Dale Johnson from Green River. He approached the commission with a request that they consider allowing Green River City to become a member of the Castle Valley Special Service District. He pointed out that the roads and drainage systems existing in Green River are not as new as the western end of the county, due to the district operating in western Emery County for the last 20 plus years. Green River has not had that service and they realize that the service is not free and comes with taxes and user fees. The annexation will generate more money into Green River through the transient room tax. These impacts from travelers are greatly felt in Green River City. "It is Green River's request to become a member of the Castle Valley Special Service District," said Mayor Johnson.
Commissioner Johnson said they will gather the numbers and see if it is feasible with the Green River debt and the bonding of the CVSSD. It is not a simple thing. The district was created within the shadow of impact of the power plants and the mineral production to keep those plants operating. It was not clear whether Green River was given the opportunity to come on board originally, but if they were they turned down the idea. CVSSD bonded last year for projects to be completed in the future, none of these projects were for the Green River area. If Green River comes on board at this time, they would be partially responsible in helping to pay back a bond which is not budgeted to help them.
CVSSD manager, Darrel Leamaster also spoke to the issue. He said the authority lies with the commissioners to make the final decision and it could be accomplished in two ways. It can be initiated by the county commission to pass a resolution to annex Green River into the district. Another way is for the Green River citizens to gather enough signatures to have an initiative petition delivered to the county commissioners, this would need to consist of 10 percent of voters or 10 percent of the property valuation.
The process would include notification and a public hearing. Also written and oral comments would be taken on the issue. The Green River voters would vote on the issue.
The statute refers to annexations in the same way, with the same procedures the original district was set up with. The commission would receive comments for 15 days to decide if they wanted to annex.
When the district was formed by the power company to mitigate impacts on public entities. They couldn't give money directly to the county since the county couldn't give this money back to the cities. Legislation was passed so the district could be created and it was selective in what it would allow the district to use funds for; these uses included basic infrastructure like water, sewer and roads.
The law states that the same services must be provided throughout the district and taxed evenly throughout the district. One possibility listed was in having voters approve another bond. If this could be accomplished the bond could cover Green River projects; with the tax burden being shared county wide.
It was described as a tough situation with no easy quick fix solutions. Green River councilman Tom Burr requested that Leamaster come to a Green River City council meeting and describe and discuss the situation with Green River citizens. Leamaster said he would be happy to come and discuss the situation.
Mayor Johnson explained that Green River recently bonded for the new water treatment plant and improvements to the sewer system and their debt is high at this time. Leamaster explained at the beginning of the district, the cities were all in various stages of debt and their debt stayed in place. Water and sewer rates were set so they could pay off their debts over a period of time.
Mayor Johnson said the motels impact Green River greatly. "We feel somewhat excluded and want to be treated like everyone else in the county," he said.
Commissioner Johnson told Mayor Johnson that we love Green River and will look at all the ramifications and move it along.
Mayor Johnson said when the transient room tax is collected by the county they will receive only what the county sends back to them.
Commissioner Johnson said in regards to PacifiCorp that he has spoken to them about this matter and their response was that if it does not adversely effect other tax payers they would not be against Green River coming into the district. We need to look into it and put it into a format so we can understand it.
The commission made a motion to put together all relevant information about the matter and research all avenues for Green River.
The discussion of the vacancy in the Emery County Travel Bureau was discussed. The position is being advertised and will be filled with someone from Green River.
Commissioner Hatch said they have met with Grand County on the operations of the John Wesley Powell River Museum. As soon as the annexation is finalized the Grand County Travel Bureau will leave the museum. He said it was a good meeting with needed discussion taking place.
Leamaster told the commission of the requirements of water surface proliferation plans for all the streams in the county which have water treatment plants on them. The Huntington Canyon plan is in place and the other streams all need these water source protection plans and they will be working on them.
Jeff Guymon was on hand to discuss the grants for the libraries. They are installing 13 computers for the libraries and also laser printers. The grant also comes with one year of technical support and training for library staff which will take place in the next two months. The commissioners felt like the county should take advantage of this training and that any county employees wishing to attend should do so. These new computers for the libraries will be for the use of the library patrons.
The commission approved the requisitions for the grants and thanked Jeff and the library employees for securing these grants.
Clerk Funk discussed with the commissioners the materials needed for preparing the voter information pamphlets. This information needs to be in to the clerk's office by Oct. 5. Anyone wishing to write opposition for the monument proposal concept had to respond to the clerk's office in writing 45 days prior to this deadline. There is a 500 word limit on these responses and they will be mailed to voters eight days prior to the election. Clerk Funk also said the initiative on the radioactive waste would also be on the ballot.
Commissioner Johnson acknowledged the need to tell the pros and cons to the voters. He also pointed out that not a dime of tax payer money was used in the informational video about the monument concept.
Maughn Guymon from the Southeastern Utah Area Agency on Aging was welcomed to the meeting. He was on hand for the consideration and the approval of the 2003 fiscal year contract between Emery County and the agency. He said the legislature had been kind to the agency and they didn't take any cuts beyond the initial 6 percent hit and their budget looks pretty good. The commissioners approved the contract.
The next item on the agenda was the ratification of the cooperative agreement modifications for interpretive enhancements on I-70.
The commission minutes were approved for the last meeting with minor changes. The commission reports were next on the agenda. Commissioner Hatch reported that he had been out with John Niebergall from the forest service and they are retaking old photos and looking at sites in preparation for the 100th birthday of the forest service next year. He also reported that he visited with the people in Emery after the flood and assessed flood damages. He said the people there said there would have been more damages, but the road crew worked quickly in building dikes and assisting in directing the water where they wanted it to go and avoided more damage to the town.
Commissioner Sitterud reported that he would be meeting with state legislators and will take any commission questions to them. He also reported that they had signed the papers with the University of Utah on the Horse Canyon Project and the U of U is moving forward with the feasibility study.
The next commission meeting will be held on Oct. 1 at 4 p.m.


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Well as matters would go, the Dewan was summoned by the Viceroy, had his meeting with Mountbatten on 21st July, the famous one where he salaciously attacked Gandhiji's morality and brought files of reports in support. Mountbatten after a patient listening, deputed VP Menon to try and wrangle an accession settlement with CP. VP and CP did not agree, and CP stated that he would discuss accession only with India and not Britain.
Dec 29, 2010
Travancore, CP and the Monazite sands
Well as matters would go, the Dewan was summoned by the Viceroy, had his meeting with Mountbatten on 21st July, the famous one where he salaciously attacked Gandhiji's morality and brought files of reports in support. Mountbatten after a patient listening, deputed VP Menon to try and wrangle an accession settlement with CP. VP and CP did not agree, and CP stated that he would discuss accession only with India and not Britain.
35 Response to "Travancore, CP and the Monazite sands"
- Bernard said...December 29, 2010
Thank you for writing this informative piece about CP. As a person from Cherthala, let me add some more things to this CPR Iyer Chapter.
In the heart of Cherthala, lie the 'Kocheri Maalika'- The place where CP's soldiers, stayed while they were assigned to crush the Vayalar rebellion, as a silent witness to those bygone days!
CP was not a person without vision about Travancore's development. He was the one who completed the A-S Canal, that connected Alappuzha to Shertallai(Cherthala), as it was written in those days. A-S canal was the aorta of trade in those days. Towards North, Cherthala was already connecetd to Cochin. A-S canal materialised the connection between The Venice of East and The Queen of Arabian Sea, via Cherthala, and CP was the creator of this wonderfull idea. Later governments and authorities failed to understand the importance of this route and now it is in a dilapidated condition!
- Kamini Dandapani said...December 30, 2010
Dear Maddy,
I have not read this piece as yet, but first wanted to wish you and your family all the best for a terrific new year ahead. I have to tell you, yours is one of the most amazing blogs I have come across. I may not always leave a comment, but I have read and enjoyed so many of your posts and am so grateful that you so generously share so much with your readers. I have said it before, and I am saying it again: when are you bringing out a book??
- P.N. Subramanian said...December 31, 2010
Well, I was not aware of Sir CPs connection with monazite sands. Very informative post. Thanks a ton. Wishing you and your family a very happy New Year.
- Dev said...December 31, 2010
I second what Kamini says. Remember the excellent BBC TV series 'Connections' by Historian James Burke? Perhaps Maddy can write such a book, each chapter segueing into the next through a definite connection, but spanning a mind-boggling variety of subjects, but all related to the Kerala historical theme. Hope 2011 gives you enough time and resources to do something like this. Happy New Year!
- Vijay said...January 01, 2011
Wonderful post Maddy. I grew up in Ooty just down the road from CPR's house "Delisle".Question- is it possible that the attack by KCS Mani, that forced CP to "see the light", was instigated by the Home ministry aka Mr.Patel? Or am I being too much of a conspiracy theorist?
- Maddy said...January 02, 2011
Thanks Bernard..
Waterways like the AS canal were important concepts. I remember seeing it on a school trip while studying at Trivandrum, but I have not seen kacheri malika..
- Maddy said...January 02, 2011
Thanks Kamini..
I have been mulling over that thought for awhile now. Just may go for it this year..
- Maddy said...January 02, 2011
Thanks PNS...
Hope all is well with you
- Maddy said...January 02, 2011
Thanks Dev..
I have the matter, but the concept is yet to take shape. As I replied kamini possibly this year..
- Maddy said...January 02, 2011
Thanks Vijay..
Well, I do not think so though it looks possible on the face of it. One - Patel would not have got such an idea and the alternative of what happened in Hyderabad could certainly have easily been carried out in Travancore if CP had held on.
KCS Mani was a follower of the trade union movement and group led by Sreekandan nair. Apparently this attack was Mani's own idea.
- Nitin said...January 02, 2011
Thanks for the article.As always very interesting connections by joining seemingly random dots. Perhaps you like discrete math.
I had stumbled upon your blog while searching for early Malabar history and have been reading ever since.
Thanks for all the research that you put in vetting the facts presented in your articles. These days the line between fact vs fiction is getting blurred by individual perception based on the myriad of online content.
Writing a book would be interesting..I wish you good luck in finding a topic as intertwined for you to unravel each string.
Look forward to your future posts.
- Happy Kitten said...January 03, 2011
Only when I read you do I realize how little history I know! You have this way of kindling curiosity and throwing light on events and personalities...
Think CP would have created an independant Travancore at least for a while, with himself at the helm, if Mani had not intervened. Not sure if it would have been good or bad.
Let me wish you and your loved ones a very Happy New Year.
- Maddy said...January 03, 2011
Thanks HK..
The character of CP is one I do not want to get into, for he was certainly a difficult man and in his heydays very much interested in money and other lures. He was one of the highest paid dewans and when he left took immense wealth with him. Many years later, he gave much of it away.
in the Mani case and slightly before it, the fight was between him and KM Panikkar as well as VP Menon and the problem of a highly inflated ego. All interesting aspects..
He was a good administrator, but many a bad day, his ego & greed took over.
- Maddy said...January 03, 2011
Thanks Nitin..
oh! no I do not like discrete math...but I do enjoy connecting up bits and pieces and raveling or unraveling a story. sometimes it is all in front of you, but unconnected, sometimes it is mighty hard work..
thanks again. i will certainly start on a serious venture soon...like creating something book worthy..Until then there will be plenty more on these pages
- akk said...March 01, 2011
great and informative piece. I had read Guha's book earlier and was fascinated by CP. you really filled in a lot of details on the colourful character.
- Maddy said...March 06, 2011
thanks akk.
CP is well covered in various books and is indeed a terrific character. thanks for your comment.
- Abhed Kiran Ravikumar-Pillai Kandamath said...April 20, 2012
Repeating what Kamini said earlier about reading the posts...
But I believe since they are so many people interested on Sir CP (which is a great thing as far as I am concerned), it is well time that we '''see light'' with certain matters regarding this colourful personality.
I must say that I find Maddy's reason for making it clear that he doesn't wish to get into Sir CP's character, a bit disturbing.Wouldn't mind if Maddy could kindly elaborate on his sources regarding the Dewan's expenses.
And about the case of Independant Travancore-
It was HH The Maharajah's idea and not that of the Dewan,initially.He was even critical at times about the repercussions of the seemingly autarkic decision.He was doing his best as an advocate of the state befitting the honor of 'Sachivottama','Secretary/Servant Extra-ordinaire' , the title given to Hanuman swamy by Lord Rama.
The personality of the people involved including those like Lord Dickie Mountbatten,Sardar Patel,Vappala Menon,Pattom Thanu Pillai,Sardar Madhava Panicker and certain Travancore civil servants,
must be carefully studied to make out their relations.To an onlooker it may seem easily that this 'shrewd Pattar' in a Rasputin-style had been dominating the youngish chap whom he got on to the Musnud(throne).This was the view expressed by many including the Danish Professor Miss Ouwerkerk and can be directly seen as a result of the court around him much to the angst of many including the aspiring 'Savarna' members of the State Congress and the Communist Groups who aspired to become the big-fishes in the small pond that would be, if the Dewan were to quit hanging on to it. He is one of the most misunderstood persons in History probably second to none but Oliver Cromwell in a very similarly set early-modern circumstance.
The underlying-issue of caste-politics and lawlessness in the state of Kerala these days owe its origins to the matters dealt with by the Dewan whichever way you might wish to see it. To bring it to the topical issue surrounding Travancore today-the controversial comments made by the Communist CM Achutanandan reagrding the assets of the Anantha Padmanabhaswamy Temple- were based upon the ire and irk on his backside from the lathi lashings he might have earned as part of promoting lawlessness at Punnapra Vayalar Riots.
The British offered every support to Travancore including Military Aid in case the need arise. It is very unlikely that the Sardar would have used any of the tactics in his pocket with which he dealt,the vulgarly opulent Maharajahs of the North, in the case of the 'Hindu State' known to be the Best Governed one in the whole of Asia. Guha version is disingenuous which owes much to his generalisation and altogether lack of experience with Travancore and the south. And of course, circumstances post-1950(Dominion turned into Republic) are different!
I am of course biased,very much so, in favour of the late Dewan.But since the personality, is one I stumbled upon very early in my life,in my boyhood days,and have been seeking opinions from all those who knew him, the conclusion is very much founded in fact. As Prof Alappat Menon always said and in fact wrote on the Prefatory of his book bringing out in detail the annals of Sir CP's 16 years- Focus must be on 'History as it happened'!
Looking forward to comments/critical views from all those interested and from Maddy himself!
- Maddy said...April 21, 2012
Thanks Abhed..
will do one of these days..
I have been reading up on Sir CP quite a bit and the great things as well as the problem is how others see him and wrote about him. Much of what was written seems somewhat to the extreme - positives and negatives. So to filter out and get to the real character is a real tough task and takes much study which I have not done. Hence to comment on his character is difficult presently. pretty much like VKKM..
I will get to a couple more stories involving the dewan CP soon, still work in progress..
- Abhed Kiran Ravikumar-Pillai Kandamath said...April 21, 2012
Dear Maddy,
The comparison you have made to Krishna Menon's character and intentions, is an ideal one,indeed.
But I believe I am right in saying that Krishna Menon's expenses did go over the top especially the part that is not highlighted, which is his personal debts.And we have documentary evidence to substantiate it.When I meant I find your reasoning for not getting into Sir CP's character disturbing,I meant the fact that he embezzled wealth from the state.
Your efforts are great and is well -appreciated by many, I am sure. Looking forward to the ones especially on the late Dewan.
Take care
- Maddy said...April 22, 2012
sorry Abhed..
My mistake, I should have clarified that aspect in detail. When I said CP had a lot of wealth as he left, I did not mean any kind of embezzlement, that is a far fetched thought. He was highly paid, had lavish perks and his savings at the end were large according to his biographers..
- Arun Muralidhar said...September 06, 2012
Travancore didn't stand a chance against India like HYD. Moreover general public was fully aligned with India concept and communism. If ever travancore managed to be independent , it would soon hv faced a communist upsurge n travancore would hv become like Cuba .
For Kerala was the first democratically elected communist gov and first to hv land reforms. My dad used to say many sold of their land believing gov will take over whatever land they had after reforms n d state owned land system of communists will come effect. Thankfully that didn't happen. But landreforms was a major factor to the healthy socio economic development in Kerala.
Sir CP indeed was a visionary but way too autocratic that the raja himself was worried at times. N public opinion was towards communists. Travabcore has a history of dalavas being sidelined or murdered
While he brought in things like the inland water ways or even wrote to Albert Einstein to head the state university, only a few if the upper castes benifited as education n things like temple access was denied even to middle castes who had their own temples under narayan guru. CP was against giving access but changed mind AMD asked to giv access after he realised people were getting aligned with congress n communists aiming for indepent india as they believed these rules will change once India is free country. Travancore while being the best kingdom when it comes to civil rights, it still had some bad n crude things like ' mula karam' female breast tax, where tax among commoners were collected based on the number of females with developed breasts and even middle caste women weren't allowed to cover their breasts in front of upper castes.
These things were eventually discontinued as travancore king n CP started to realise that people began to see mahatma n independence movement as their chance against British n that people now saw the king n British as one .
But it was too little too late . Apart from castism, travancore kings would be the most progressive aristrocatic rulers across the world.
As far as British allignment, as always British were just playing with CP. Travancore kings used to get a 19 gun salute while Rajput kings. Gwalior Baroda n hyd held 21 at Delhi. Travancore kings were given 21 gun salute only within his state. As gun salutes was primarily way of acknowledging relationship between princely states and British, travancore wasn't a prime favorite for British. Gun salutes continued till 1971.
If CP had the full trust of maharaja n people travancore could hv atleadt bargained for special rights like sikkim . It aceded without any demands
- Arun Muralidhar said...September 06, 2012
Travancore didn't stand a chance against India like HYD. Moreover general public was fully aligned with India concept and communism. If ever travancore managed to be independent , it would soon hv faced a communist upsurge n travancore would hv become like Cuba .
For Kerala was the first democratically elected communist gov and first to hv land reforms. My dad used to say many sold of their land believing gov will take over whatever land they had after reforms n d state owned land system of communists will come effect. Thankfully that didn't happen. But landreforms was a major factor to the healthy socio economic development in Kerala.
Sir CP indeed was a visionary but way too autocratic that the raja himself was worried at times. N public opinion was towards communists. Travabcore has a history of dalavas being sidelined or murdered
While he brought in things like the inland water ways or even wrote to Albert Einstein to head the state university, only a few if the upper castes benifited as education n things like temple access was denied even to middle castes who had their own temples under narayan guru. CP was against giving access but changed mind AMD asked to giv access after he realised people were getting aligned with congress n communists aiming for indepent india as they believed these rules will change once India is free country. Travancore while being the best kingdom when it comes to civil rights, it still had some bad n crude things like ' mula karam' female breast tax, where tax among commoners were collected based on the number of females with developed breasts and even middle caste women weren't allowed to cover their breasts in front of upper castes.
These things were eventually discontinued as travancore king n CP started to realise that people began to see mahatma n independence movement as their chance against British n that people now saw the king n British as one .
But it was too little too late . Apart from castism, travancore kings would be the most progressive aristrocatic rulers across the world.
As far as British allignment, as always British were just playing with CP. Travancore kings used to get a 17gun salute while a few Rajput kings and Baroda gwalior n hyd had. So it wasn't a case where travancore was the prime favorite of British
- Maddy said...September 08, 2012
Thanks Arun..
CP was indeed an interesting character with a lot of good and bad about him...this was an article mainly explaining why Travancore was somewhat importatnt to the British then..
But then nobody knew about teh wealth in the temple vaults then....
- Abhed Kiran Ravikumar-Pillai Kandamath said...November 12, 2012
@ Arun Murlidhar
Ironically, the opening statement that you have made is exactly what Sir Ramaswami Aiyar said to HH the Maharajah in those days. Fact is though that he warned of their wanton behaviour(as noted in Russia and elsewhere followed by their murderous attitude) and not a substantial threat. It is not hard to put down a few people here and there especially when the state has an professional army together with support of the Congress party and prominent social organisations such as the Nair Service Society.
The reason behind women being half-naked is a theological one and not confined to women of the lower orders.In fact it was the norm that no lady, until the dawn of the last century, covered themselves in temples; especially at the 'Nirmalyam' ceremony during the early hours of dawn.
The 'Bosom-tax' only applied to the lower orders such as the Ezhavas, Pulayas and so on who lived on isolated areas in a village/township and hence the medieval way of calculating poll-tax. It is indisputable that it was fairer to charge a child rate fro women under puberty than charging at the adult rate!!! I agree this seems ridicuklous now, but we should put ourselves in the shoes of the bygone days.
Can you please provide references in favour of your arguments:
a)that the Maharajah was worried any time, about HH's Dewan?
b) The British ever 'played' with Sir Aiyar. He was seen as one of the most straightforward gentleman of his days!
Now talking of the relationship with the Paramount Power-
a) Most historians agree why the Nizam was what he was, his immense contribution to War Effort & the role in keeping Muslims toned down.
b) Sikkim was a Crown Protectorate and not a princely state, therefore it could negotiate terms. Travancore too had terms many of which the incompetent Indian Union government failed to carry out. The most important ones were the special status of the Temple and the status accorded to it(continues till date& includes the gun-salute!)& the appointment of Maharajah as HH the Rajpramukh for life.
And I do agree with you that land reforms were a major factor in the 'healthy socio-economic development of Kerala'- that it will STARVE TO DEATH if the lorries don't turn up from the neighbouring state bringing the staple food at exhorbitant prices for the same proletariat!
- jk47 said...March 20, 2013
The communists[congress too] have destroyed the state in every possible way. Now achumaman & co is freely looting and their kith & kin enjoying all the capitalist previleges !!!! One cannot compare the rule of HH Sri Chithira Thirunal with that of the uncouth, hedonistic north indian "rulers". This state saw incredible development during the Maharaja's rule & Sir CP was a genius. Now look at our state. Every qualified person is leaving this state in order to make a living because of the ridiculous caste politics. During the rule of Regent Queen itself, the banning of appointing devdasis in temples, allowing women 2 cover their breasts, opened roads for all castes etc were done. So arun muralidhar's arguments does not have much validity. What has the current congress & communist govts done 4 this state other than making us become completely dependent on Tamils??? Also we r becoming the playground for islamic terrorists. If we go by muralidhar's argument, kerala should be a heaven after all these years. What r we now famous for ??? Record unemployment, stagnant economy, suicides, divorces, rapes [including of new born babies], different corruption & sex scandals, a good 4 nothing police force, mismanagement of the state's natural resources......... the achievements of our great democratic government is impressive indeed !!!
- jk47 said...September 10, 2013
Regarding Travancore recieving only 17 gun salute, is a misinformation. We used to get 21 gun salute; was reduced to 19, when the Monarch refused to send the Travancore army for the world war efforts. Contrary to other rulers, here the gun salute was given to Padmanabhaswami & is still provided during Arattu & all.
- Kenney Jacob said...September 16, 2013
Get your facts right. Do we have have record unemployment ? 25L migrant workers are working in this state. Is it because of unemployment ? Its a sign of progress, just like we migrate to the gulf.. or the west.. people are migrating here.. which gives them a better pay.
Stagnant economy ?
Where do you see an economic issue in Kerala ?
Divorce rates ?
Divorce rates are an indicator of women empowerment. Go to north india.. females are slaves. here they dare to say enough is enough..
We have been.. and are a better state in India. Thanks to people like CP.. and EMS.
- jk47 said...October 14, 2013
Dear Maddy,
Ur articles r well researched & thought provoking. The fruit of ur labour is clearly visible from the responses u r getting to ur works. Keep up ur good efforts.
@kenny jacob:
I made my comment after checking the facts. By the way, i never criticised Sir CP; called him a 'genius'.
1) If our economy is as safe as u r portraying it, then y did the Nitakhat ruling in the Middle East took away our sleep? We all know the reason, we have no industry based in our state. A major problem suffered by our state is brain drain. Can u tell me wat our govt is doin to solve this? About the 25L labourers, they r working here due to our preference for white-collar lobs & not bcoz of economic prosperity. There r numerous news reports about the abject exploitation experienced by those labourers in kerala. I don't c any techies migrating to kerala like in Bangalore, Chennai or other metros. Every day qualified people r leaving this state due to lack of opportunities. When ever som1 start a business here, the militant trade unions pop up with ridiculous demands (recent incident related to kochi metro).
2) With no new business ventures, our economy will only shrink. One cannot depend solely on tourism as all it need is a natural disaster to topple such an economy(Asian Tsunami, Uttarakhand disaster etc) . Our economy is referred to as "money order" based. What about those affected by Nitakhat? Wat vil they do wen they return back to their state? They wont even get manual labour as the employers prefer the hard working migrants. Thus with zero industries+zero work ethic of trade unions+brain drain=STAGNANT ECONOMY...
3) Kerala is at the top wen it comes to divorce rates. Sociologists consider this as a social malady & not as a sign of progress. Every day we read about the abuses suffered by kids from step parents(parents too). Brocken families will create serious psychological problems in kids. Abuse on women isn't the only factor for divorce. Adultery, lack of time(especially among techy couples),alcoholism in men & women etc.also leads to divorce. Wat about kids from brocken families? So divorce rates r not the sole factor of women empowerment.
- jk47 said...October 14, 2013
@kenny Jacob
Sir CP's contributions r usually forgotten by politicians only on the basis of Punapra Vayalar. It is not at all fair to the great man. I have absolute hatred towards communists. They r a curse upon this land. I hope people will open their eyes b4 it is too late for our state. Even wen they curse America, their leader EK Nayanar's son working in US is not a problem at all. Wat about such blatant double standards? The left is quick to blame Sir CP & Sree Chithira Thirunal in the punapra vayalar incident. Wat about the Singur incident where the poor farmers were attacked(physically&verbally) by communists party workers? They r also mum about(except VS) SNC Lavalin case, cheer girls controversy, TP Chandrasekharan, mixing communism into textbooks, calling Jesus Christ a communist etc.
Wen Land reforms was introduced, it became the death knell of agriculture in our state. To fiil the lack of workers, farmers in 1970s brought tractors but it resulted in unprededented violence from trade unions. As a result, we r almost completely depended upon other states. Y couldnt communists bring in things like benefits & living quarters for the tillers, a wage structure for those workers etc, instead agricultural lands had to be divided to accommodate the homeless? Those creepy trade unions didn't even let the farmers use tractors nor where they ready to work hard. So the poor farmers could either suicide or sell watever land they had for a pittance of sum. How does all this look positive?
Instead of remedying our present problems,there is no point talking about past glories. Other states r fast catching up with us. We should bring in some new attitude 2wards work or we will end up like West Bengal.
- jk47 said...October 21, 2013
Dear Maddy,
My question is regarding Sir C P's character.
Do u believe the rumoured affair btw Sethu parvathi bayi/Amma Maharani & Sir C P, to be true??? Or was it just another cheap communist propoganda to scandalise the Dewan & the Travancore Royal family ? My grandparents didn't had much good impression about Amma Maharani but had tremendous love & respect for Sree Chithira Tirunal! I just wanted to know if there was any truth to that particular rumour which added to the notoriety of CP.
- Maddy said...October 21, 2013
thanks jk47,
no i do not know if there is any fact in the so called affair. However i must say that there is one book which provides some 'perhaps untrustworthy' information.The book is Maharani: Love Adventures of Indian Maharanis and Princesses by Jarmani Dass, Rakesh Bhan Dass.
- jk47 said...October 24, 2013
Hi Maddy,
Thanx for the reply.
When i read the title of the above mentioned book i felt awkward. Then again, i checked it out on Google, as i read the reviews for the book, i panicked, it was that bad !!! As u wrote, the writers concentrates solely on sex scandals/cheap gossips of those days, the book is truly untrustworthy. The language is crude & it goes somthing like this: "The Travancore Maharaja used to get 10 Gun salute" ??? "The Travancore's Queen Mother was a famed beauty (she never seemed like a beauty to me as she wore a perpetual frown on her face; the Regent was a beauty, so was Karthika Tirunal Thamburatti) ).Another sentence goes like this: "Sir CP was the great administrator who allowed women to wear brassieres " !!! The moment i read that , i just fled...
Anyways, thank u for giving me ur opinion. In a TV interview , Uthradom Thirunal said that once Sir CP flung a file at the Maharaja but Sree Chithira Thirunal calmly picked up the file, read it & signed. B4 the King gave the file back to CP, Uthradom, just a teenager then, took the file from the Maharaja's hand & flung it back at CP's face !!! If any body other than Uthradom had said that i wouldn't have believed it at all. So i am unsure about the whole affair thing. Then again Chithira Thirunal's calmness & reserved behaviour was misunderstood by many, including Mountbatten, as ineptitude, cowardice or shyness. I guess we will never know the truth...
- Maddy said...November 01, 2013
thanks jk47..
i have read that account. Though much of what this guy wrote strayed far away from fact, you can detect a core sometimes. The account of the rani and CP is apparently his eyewitness account, if i recall correctly and this man had nothing to do with travancore. let me see if i can access the book again & i will revert
- jk47 said...November 02, 2013
Thanx maddy.
That will be a great help. I had also heard stories about the affair btw CP & Queen Mother from my grandmother. She wasn't the gossiping type either but i was small then & not that interested in her old Thiruvithamkoor stories! Besides my ammomma passed away some time back. If she was alive now, i could have asked her. If u come to know any details, plz do share. My amma hates CP primarily bcoz of that alleged affair, no matter what i say about his good works she is not at all convinced !
- Maddy said...November 23, 2013
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Skip to comments.Prosecutors in Zimmerman Trial Ask Jury to Disregard Comments (Too favorable towards Zimmerman)
Posted on 07/02/2013 3:53:36 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
SANFORD, Fla. Prosecutors in the second-degree murder trial of George Zimmerman scrambled Tuesday to undo damage to their case by one of their leading witnesses, a Sanford police officer who interviewed the defendant hours after he fatally shot Trayvon Martin.
The witness, Officer Chris Serino, testified under cross-examination on late Monday afternoon that Mr. Zimmerman seemed to be telling the truth when he said he had fired his gun in self-defense. The officers admission made for a dramatic moment in the trial and was a clear boon for the defense but drew no immediate objection from the state. The court recessed for the day afterward.
But early on Tuesday, citing case law, the state successfully argued that Officer Serinos comments about Mr. Zimmermans veracity ought to be disregarded by the jury. The judge then instructed the jurors, who are being sequestered during the trial, to ignore the officers statement, nearly 17 hours after it had been made.
Officer Serinos testimony, in the second week of the trial in Seminole County Court, was the latest setback for prosecutors......
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
Yep, it is also really hard to prosecute someone when there is no evidence to support your claims.
The judge asked the state what remedy it wanted. It had grounds for a mistrial, and could have asked for that. That's how to unring a bell.
retroactive objection?
Never saw that on Perry Mason...
On what basis?
A witness is not allowed to give an opinion on another witness, but Zimmerman is not a witness, he's the defendant.
True, and often the attempt to do so causes more reverberations than one would intend. This even smells of desperation.
That move hurt them more than the actual statement.
Wouldn't that be rewarding the prosecution for their own ineptitude?
I hope that holds true. How in the world can the prosecution discount testimony merely because it's favorable to Zimmerman, and came from an official? If he'd said something they like, they wouldn't have discounted it. So, it's not the official they have the problem with (or they could have objected to him before trial), it's that what he said is favorable to the defense. Zimmerman doesn't have a right to fair testimony, even if it turns out to be favorable to him? I thought the truth mattered (not really, but you know what I mean), search for the truth and all that. It's only true if it discredits Zimmerman?
The whole trial is a mockery. If the DA's office had any integrity they'd nolle prosse and stop wasting tax dollars to placate the media lynch mob.
They're going to have to offer Mr. Zimmerman a spot in the witness protection program.
That'll be part of the deal he'll demand.
The prosecution FAKED a cursive letter, and
FAKED the existence of REAL bruises on Mr. Zimmerman,
and has used the MSM to FAKE even the appearances
of the Obama-chosen "victim".
Neither the facts nor the Law is on the side
of the cruel prosecution which has made this a
racist kangaroo court.
QUESTION - Will the Defense move to dismiss charges after the Prosecution rests.
It seems Judge would have to dismiss at least the 2nd degree murder charge? Correct
" The state also aired a televised interview from 2012 with Mr. Zimmerman by Sean Hannity, the Fox News host, in which Mr. Zimmerman recounted his version of events before adding, I feel that it was all Gods plan, as Mr. OMara squirmed by his side. "
I don't think MOM really squirmed about anything. I'm sure he knew it was coming.
That opinion statement by the officer hurt them. The prosecutor waited too long. Even the instruction to the jury reemphasized the opinion by the policeman. The prosecution in this case seems inept.
Yeah, really.
If they didn't really pay attention to it yesterday, they were reminded to, today.
A fair and impartial trial was never in the State's plans. Why they did not sweat a "signed confreesion" a/l/a the Stalin era Show trials remains a mystery. The goal of tthe "trial" is to "legally" convict Zimmerman to go along with the media conviction.
Yeah, and it looks pretty weird if you're jumping up in court to object to a statement by your own witness.
I'm guessing that's why the wait.
Either that or else they were so gob-smacked they didn't know whether to **** or go blind.
There is no way every jurist there didn't go "HUH?"
Even TV law isn't that stupid. 17 hours of consideration does not evaporate because the judge wants it to.
The judge seems to favor the prosecutors with this action today. The prosecutors are the ones who called this witness. They need to own everything he says.
But that's really neither here nor there.
1. The move smacks of desperation and just highlights the unfavorable testimony.
2. The fact that the judge allowed a retroactive objection tells me the judge sees which way this trial is going and wants to protect the record against a possible mistrial.
I haven't seen the exact line of questioning, but there are questions you don't ask for this very reason.
If the guy was asked for an opinion, it's the attorney who screwed up, not the witness.
If he's a skilled attorney, he could have asked an indirect question and hoped the witness would 'go there', so it wouldn't be his fault.
I was too busy to watch the trial today.
holy crap...so many un and half truths in this article...
Agatha Christie had a similar idea. In her fabulous script, the title character intentionally threw the prosecution's case, but tried not to show that it was on purpose.
Thanks. I'm no lawyer, nor have I played one on teevee.
The basis is generally that fact witnesses are precluded from assuming the role of the jury. It is up to the jury to decide, for itself, whether or not it finds Zimmerman's account to be credible.
The "witness vs. defendant" distinction doesn't save that encroachment on the jury's turf. Probably makes it worse.
Would you feel the same way if Serino said he thought Zimmerman was a pathological liar?
Yeah. Maybe they'll try to get a mistrial, announce they're going to reserve the right to re-try Z. They then wait till the dead of winter to announce that they've decided not to pursue a second prosecution.
They could be planning to do this to delay setting Z free until we're out of the summer months. Less rioting.
Except that there's no winter in Flori-duh.
What I mean is the judge just deprived the prosecution of a possible mistrial. The prosecution didn't object when the question was asked and now got the instruction they asked for, so they have no ground for mistrial and have to proceed. The judge may be thinking this thing is going the defense's way and I don't want there to be any ground for a second trial.
I'll bet all the Rachel Jeantel and Trayvon Martin types had spare time to watch it...
I suppose you can look at it that way. But the Q&A came under a cross examination, so the state didn't elicit the answer itself. I do think they could see it coming as soon as Serino answered "could have been a pathological liar, or could have been telling the truth." Both of those are ultimate opinions, even though he hasn't told the court which of those two he leans toward. The state should have objected on the spot.
Funny thing is that the state filed and won a motion precluding exactly this type of testimony from law enforcement, and should have been on guard for it.
Thanks 2ndDivisionVet.
Oh. Wow.
I would want to know why he thought that, because there is no evidence of that. There was no basis on him even using that phrase at all, as MOM demonstrated directly after.
But yes, I think that asking a police detective if he thought the person he was investigating was being truthful or lying is a legit question. If he thought Zim was a pathological liar, then provide the basis for the formation of that opinion in detail.
I do not understand why this testimony was stricken, but the testimony of a proven perjurer, Rachael, was not, nor has she been charged with perjury or manufacturing evidence or conspiring to manufacture evidence in the form of that letter.
So the prosecution wants the testimony of its own witness disregarded. I'd say that's strike two against the prosecution.
It's not. Cases are mistried on this sort of error at trial.
Tumblin v. State, 29 So.3d 1029 (Fla 2010) HN 9, 10 and 11
Jackson v. State, 107 So.3d 328 (Fla 2012) HN 3 and 4
Pausch v. State, 596 So.2d 1216 (Fla 2nd DCA 1982)
Indeed, that happened. Later, the same witness claimed that Zimmerman was motivated by I'll will. That testimony was allowed.
1. All
2. Woman
3. Jury
I am not saying these women are incapable of rendering a verdict that is just, because we do not know much about them. But I am saying that other opinions, including experienced trial lawyers, have commented that female juries tend towards emotion rather than facts.
Its been widely suggested that an all-female jury might be sympathetic to Trayvon Martin because of the mere fact that he died, regardless of the circumstances leading to that death. That fact may resonate with emotional jurors. And, the theory goes, women tend to be more driven by sympathetic emotions than men.
We do know, by her behavior on camera, that the Judge is a twit.
"In any case, on direct examination Dr. Rao was repeatedly asked if this or that particular injury were particularly series,...."
Two separate questions. The jury is charged with evaluating the credibility of witnesses. That is their job. They will assign credibility to Rachael's testimony as they see fit. I suspect the figure she is not trustworthy under the circumstances.
But nobody came right out and said she is a liar. It was pointed out that she shaded her testimony when in the presence of Sybrina, that Sybrina was present for the Crump interview and the state's deposition. It is said that she is Martin's friend, which gives her a motive to lie to cover for him, etc. People lie on the witness stand all the time with no penalty beyond the jury thinks they are lying.
If Crump is guilty of manufacturing evidence, somebody has to produce direct evidence of that. If Rachael admitted that in this trial, it would produce cause to charge Crump, or de la Rionda, or whoever helped manufacture the false evidence. Rachael would get swept up in that too. But, prosecution would be under a different trial (not that the state would press charges against itself).
Agreed, but they won't do that.
This is Angela Corey. She charged Zimmerman for political purposes to satisfy the Obama Black Mob. Let's be honest about it.
VIDEO: Alan Dershowitz Slams Special Prosecutor Angela Corey
Okay, the witness cannot testify to his opinion of the defendant's truthfulness. But then why is it okay for the prosecution to ask if the comments made by the defendant showed "spite or ill will" toward the victim? Isn't that also asking for an opinion of the state of mind of the accused? How is the witness qualified to testify to one but not the other?
At the end of this NYT article
The lawyer in question was the defense lawyer — it came up in the cross-examination.
I have had inklings several times that the prosecution is deliberately throwing the case.
Hope I'm right.
If the prosecutor had made a timely objection, and if the witness had answered over that objection, there might conceivably be a basis for a mistrial. Since the prosecutor didn't make a timely objection, however, any mistrial resulting from such statements would have to be seen as the prosecutor's fault. While prosecutors are allowed to retry defendants after mistrials that are caused either by patently-wrongful actions by the defense or by hung juries, any mistrial which is forced by prosecutor's actions becomes an effective acquittal [if it didn't, prosecutors could simply force mistrials any time things seemed to be going badly]. Even if Judge Nelson were willing to declare a mistrial, and declare that it was the defense's fault, such a ruling would be immediately appealed, and the DCA would probably not waste much time in ruling that Nelson's declaration of mistrial conceded the case to the defense.
I wouldn't necessarily say that such an outcome couldn't happen. Judge Nelson probably doesn't really want anything to do with this case, so if she could punt it and put the DCA on the hot seat as the entity that sets Zimmerman free, punting the case might let her escape from it.
There is only one charge against Zimmerman: murder in the second degree. There are no lesser charges. If the prosecution has failed to provide sufficient evidence of depraved mind then the judge can issue a directed verdict of acquittal. The prosecution cannot reduce the charge once the trial has begun.
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6 comments:
- KW said...
Yikes. I'm glad I didn't read that as a kid. The giant face in the ocean would have been all it took to make my mom sit with me all night.
- July 6, 2011 at 12:01 AM
- Mykal said...
KW: Yeah, that panel got me, too. I think these were two very well drawn stories!
- July 6, 2011 at 8:27 AM
- SpaceLord said...
Two very well drawn stories indeed.
Had to laugh in the first one, though, reading the following balloon:
"Death to those who move too quickly!" - That would be the end of all sportsmanship...
- July 6, 2011 at 12:16 PM
- Mykal said...
SpaceLord: That struck me as odd, as well. Yet, thinking it over, in my life whenever I have moved too quickly or impulsively, I've gotten my ass handed to me.
- July 6, 2011 at 1:00 PM
- Karswell said...
The Living Slime re-draw is pretty interesting, not sure there's anything here that's even half as disturbing as that final naked panel in the original though... they're both gloriously ugly actually.
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- Mykal said...
Karswell: That last panel in the original is a winner for sure. I've always been a sucker for that much skillfully rendered black ink, though; which is why the redraw takes first place for me.
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Honda discovered from the very beginning there was no magic formula for hull design. Computer Aided Design (CAD) programs helped at the start, but it was only through a long and complicated process of hands-on testing, testing and more testing that real-world results could be accomplished. Minute alterations in angle, size and length of the hull's chines or sponsons often yield huge changes in turning characteristics and stability.
A hull's dynamic characteristics are also intertwined, so even small changes in one area can affect performance in another. Consequently, literally hundreds of variations were tested in the initial quest to find Honda's desired blend of turning, acceleration, comfort and stability.
As one development team member explained, "It took a tremendous amount of time and effort to develop the F-series AquaTrax, but this extensive testing process allowed us to shape the R-12X hull much more quickly. We were looking for a very different set of performance parameters for a very different kind of audience, one that emphasized sporty, aggressive performance. But thanks to what we had learned with the F-12 and F-12X, we were able to shorten our development time while working with the R-12X. What's more, the new R-12X not only sets new standards for its sporting ability, it also establishes higher class standards for comfort and convenience."
A New Engine for a New Generation of Watercraft
The turbocharged 1235cc four-cylinder four-stroke AquaTrax engine boasts a compact, dry-sump configuration with the crankshaft centered a mere 180mm above the bottom surface of the hull. This creates an incredibly low center of gravity. The crankshaft directly drives the jet pump shaft to avoid any power loss in the drivetrain. A rubber damper is placed between the drive coupler and driven coupler to reduce shock loads and smooth out the power delivery.
Honda has applied its proven, cutting-edge motorcycle design technology by incorporating dual overhead camshafts to actuate four valves per cylinder via a direct cam-over-bucket system. The upper half of the engine case is a sturdy one-piece cylinder block engineered to withstand the added rigors of heavy-duty marine use. A side-mounted, silent-type camshaft drive chain and ultra-narrow cylinder sleeve spacing reduce engine size and weight.
The AquaTrax's high-pressure fuel injection system incorporates new-generation injectors. This design provides the most accurate air/fuel atomization to yield maximum combustion efficiency and power. An ultra-sophisticated electronic control unit provides two digital 3-D fuel injection maps for each cylinder and one digital 3-D ignition map for pairs of cylinders to deliver the ideal fuel mixture and precise spark advance settings.
Four waterproof transistorized direct-ignition coils are integrated into the spark plug caps and high-tension leads to produce a long-duration, high-voltage spark for sure ignition. Iridium-tip spark plugs placed under the direct-ignition coils produce maximum spark performance, maximum spark-plug life, and minimal carbon build-up.
One secret of Honda's competitive edge is the elimination of high-tension spark-plug wires. High-tension wires tend to look for ignition system low-resistance paths in wet environments, such as in a watercraft bilge area. The resultant ignition "leakage" occurs in other PWCs when the humidity of the bilge area increases, giving the high-tension leads an opportunity to short-circuit or create an ignition misfire. This phenomenon is increased by 1000 percent in a salt water environment.
A Turbocharged Path to Extra Power
Honda graced the X series AquaTrax engines with a forced induction system to boost power output--substantially--while keeping the engine package as light and compact as possible. Turbocharging was the natural method of choice; a turbo makes use of power in the exhaust system that merely goes to waste in normally aspirated systems, and its power-boosting characteristics are well suited to waterjet pumps. In addition, turbochargers don't exact a parasitic power loss as superchargers do, and there is no need to devise a complicated and fragile crankshaft-driven mechanical power take-off system from the engine, as is necessary when driving a supercharger.
The R-12X turbo system incorporates a water-cooled IHI® turbocharger plus a water-cooled intercooler to produce a maximum boost of 13 psi. This pressurization generates 32 percent more power than a normally aspirated design, for an incredible 165 bhp. Thanks to the intercooler, an ongoing supply of cool, dense air/fuel mixture is fed to the engine for maximum power and combustion efficiency. An electronic control unit (ECU) monitors atmospheric pressure, boost pressure, engine speed, engine temperature and an engine knock sensor to manage an electronic waste gate valve that controls turbocharger boost, thereby protecting vital engine components and maintaining long engine life.
The turbo's turbine bearing is an enclosed, ceramic-ball design that withstands sustained high-rpm compressor operation while providing nearly vibration- and friction-free performance. Forged pistons and connecting rods help the R-12X engine handle the additional horsepower created by the turbocharger.
A specific impeller design matches the engine's power characteristics, and Honda's engineers selected pump designs that optimized acceleration and top speed. Pressurized water from the jet pump circulates through two separate circuits to cool the engine and exhaust manifold, ensuring consistent operating temperatures for both systems.
Environmental factors have become major considerations in the PWC world, and Honda is leading the way in this area of the industry as well. The four-stroke engine is already an inherently quiet powerplant, and Honda's engineers designed the AquaTrax pumps specifically to produce less cavitation noise than conventional designs. Since the R-12X also has a waste gate in the exhaust loop, it is especially quiet, almost uncannily so for such an impressively potent machine. All of which make noise virtually a non-issue with the R-12X.
Just imagine: an eco-friendly, ultra-high-performance two-seat watercraft that's so easy to live with you'll want to stay in the saddle all day long. But it's no dream. It's the Honda AquaTrax R-12X. And it's here now.


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Posted on 02/23/2013 5:04:58 AM PST by IbJensen
It took Rome a lot longer.
.the Roman government appeared everyday less formidable to its enemies, more odious and oppressive to its subjects. The taxes were multiplied with the public distress; economy was neglected in proportion as it became necessary . If all the barbarian conquerors had been annihilated in the same hour, their total destruction would not have restored the empire of the West: and if Rome still survived, she survived the loss of freedom, of virtue, and of honour. Edward Gibbon, The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire
In New York City and Philadelphia flashmobs rob and vandalize newsstands and stores. This is a national phenomenon. In Chicago, the police department now wont immediately respond to 911 calls if they involve post-burglaries, petty, or non-violent crimes. Theyre too busy dealing with the daily carnage that is the nations highest murder rate, one that bested the number of military fatalities recorded in Afghanistan in 2012. When crazy people shoot up movie theaters and elementary school classrooms, were told its the guns fault. On a lighter note, the Wall Street Journal recently informed us that the demands of hip-hop fashion dictates that boys insist despite the protestations of Mom, Dad, and school administrators on wearing shorts to school in bitter winter weather. The girls prefer flip flops as their toes turn blue while waiting for the school bus. Things fall apart; The centre cannot hold; Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world (William Butler Yeats).
The schools are an administrative and intellectual wreck, and kids not knowing how to even dress themselves is a good metaphor for their current state.
(Excerpt) Read more at spectator.org ...
There are a thousand examples of our inexorable demise the author could have cited.
We're going to make Rome look like a piker in our rush toward dissolution. The depredation of every single American institution, every single cultural landmark, every single aspect of the American character, continues at breakneck speed. Indeed, at this juncture entropy's progress can be discerned from day to day, and the death spiral accelerates even as the dance of delusion becomes commensurately more frantic and oblivious.
But that's what we want. That's what we voted for. Do the liberals know the endgame of their religion is annihilation? The suicide of the West, brought about not by plauge or conquest, but by the greed and vanity of fools and knaves.
Only when there are no tomorrows to come will the left be satisfied, the fulfilment of their fantasies having reached its logical and inevitable conclusion.
And it is not that they will find succor, for there is no succor for the left; it is a cancer that seeks no surcease, but only oblivion.
And so it is not satisfaction that will stop the left. It is that they, too, will be sucked into the black hole they have so painstakingly constructed.
Sadly we are all Detroit now.
"....it is not satisfaction that will stop the left. It is that they, too, will be sucked into the black hole they have so painstakingly constructed."
All of the "usefull idiots" anyway - the upper-wealthy and politically-connected will be on cruise-control (that's across party lines - don't think there aren't powerful Repubs angling for safety nets).
Nice jeremiad by the writer. Pretty much agrees with how I feel. Of course few people realize things are getting worse. I don't mean in the material sense, because in that area, things are getting better. But human dignity and integrity have suffered major blows in the last fifty years. A society that doesn't know the meaning of discipline and respect for time-honored traditions is doomed.
We are like the Obama Greek columns...
Beautiful on the outside....hollowed out on the inside...
1000 points of small pressures will crush them...
Every day Obama and his minions remain in power...we add a few more points of pressure...
We will collapse spectacularly...
-—— That's what we voted for——
I take issue with that statement.
That is what the urban blue majority voted for. The urban citizens live the destructive forces and clamor for the government, the Messiah to make their existence livable, to bring salvation.
They are fools, especially the young women. They hunt for a daddy that doesn't exist. They believe that by working to make a difference by living the leftist creed it will all go away. Being fools, they believe the Reverend Jeremiah Wright and his disciples who spew hate.
There will be a reaffirmation of the 70's belief....... burn it all down. Steal and loot and pillage the very existence giving resources that permit life to be eaked out in the failed cities.
Living in the North East Cities is more dangerous than having cancer. Both will destroy you...... it is but a matter of time.
The big growth industry will be companies that will get entire families OUT OF THE USA. Emmigration is the new wave.
America was founded by people who didn't wind the cat, or put out the clock when their countries became intolerable, they left. (Robert Heinlein)
I try to think of where to go, but only Russia comes to mind. They do not take terrorism lightly and will gladly destroy every trace of anyone or anything that tries it.
They have all the resources including space.
I watched a Russian telecast of a popular program, and everyone in the audience was a RUSSIAN! No f'in diversity wanted or needed.
They also know what socialism can do, and hate it.
I am reminded of the oak tree in "Atlas Shrugged"
Sad isn't it. Russia beat the Communist, we just watched he get elected here...
But it is "We, the people..." so, in effect, the "this is what we voted for" is correct when the we is understood to refer to us and the us is a capitalized (and abbreviated) U.S.
Either way, it's all semantics at this point. While we're (uh...WE're) "screwed" I (and possibly you) have yet to feel someone's hand tool sticking and twisting in the back.
And, while "it's over," we haven't really seen anyone come along and, with the aid of a mammoth-sized spatula, slide in under us (oh dear!...U.S.) and begin to scrape, lift, toss).
And even though we (WE) can all just reach over and "turn out the lights," no one's bed time reading is at risk at this point.
See? It's semantics.
I was just thinking of starting a vanity thread about the coarse language being used by may posters. Potty mouth has expanded to "potty fingers".
Reading this morning, I found several scatological references and several f-bombs. No hiding it like using asterisks(sh*t), but spelled correctly!
I am guilty of using coarse language. I think we have degraded even our language skills. Too many can't even make a sentence without cursing, even mildly. We live in a new world, where too many are more equal than others!
A society that doesnt know the meaning of discipline and respect for time-honored traditions is doomed.
We can be part of the problem or the solution. Look at the numbers of threads on cultural stuff, and it seems it is all us vs them. When even cops are (too often) the problem, you know you're in trouble!
I no longer believe in WE.
I believe in US and THEM.
To continue to believe in WE is to continue down the path to perdition. THEY must be destroyed.
We are like the Obama Greek columns...
Those words cover every aspect of this administration pretty well.
I ask this simple question, but before I ask it, allow me to state something. I'm sure no one ever envisioned defeating the Brits in a revolution and I'm sure many thought the country was doomed the dawn of the Civil War, and some how by the grace of God we remained a nation. The American Spirit doesn't rest in the hands of DC politicians that wait for the day they can toss it in the shit can, the American Spirit rest in the hearts of us Americans. The backbone of our society. So I come to my question. Who is America? We the People or those we elect?
"I try to think of where to go, but only Russia comes to mind."
Interesting idea.
But I'm an American and I will fight and die to protect my country - even from its own.
Unfortunately, under the system of Government we have, the majority, unless it is in conflict with Blacks, Females, homosexuals, rule. The minority, again unless it pertains to tha afore mentioned groups, has little or no say.
So in reality IbJensen was correct. As a whole "we" voted for what we now have. i did not vote for the bastard either time. But more voted for him than voted against him, so once again he is inflicted upon me.
I am flying out Monday morning from DC to Cebu, Philippines. From there, I take a"Superferry" across to Ormoc City, Leyte.
PI is english speaking, Christian, and has some of the most pleasant people in the world. All of them, you ask? Of course not, but by and large, I look forward to making new friends and living in a new land. I will have high speed internet, cellphone, $200 rent, and full-time maid/cook/laundress for around $40 a month. Food is good and plentiful, and fresh seafood is a constant treat! I never liked borscht.
There are other FReepers already over there (Alex w is living in Cebu), and I have heard great things about that land and it's people.
Russia? It is 91 today in Manila, and 73 tonite...
My only question is whether Obama is our first Caesar or our last. Will he be dictator for life, or the finishing touches of a once great civilization.
A great many on this site will demand the same things that are killing us.
I have known people who are expats. Some who left decades ago because they didn't want to see the end. I have been thinking lately perhaps it is time to leave.
But where to go?
The schools are wonderful and the kids are still polite.
People carry, some open, most don't display as it's not a big deal either way, since they are able to protect themselves.
Thugs meet quick ends out here, maybe not every time, but enough to know it happens most of the time.
It's a tough land, and it will eat you alive and keep your bones, but it's beautiful and it's God's country.
Maybe we're a last bastion.
Maybe we're an example for hope and to hold on. I choose hope and hold on."
My perspective is based on two precepts, one of disruptions and the other stability:
- First at both National and State levels economic chaos (spending and print money) and social decline (laws no longer enforced and social norms reversed) are making governance impractical.
- Second - People who are part of the older social order of yesteryear, keeping faith or supporting the laws and working are spread across the Nation in just enough numbers to keep a tenuous balance for the present.
The problem for America is that as those with New Social values conquer those who support stability, those who are stable decline in numbers. This lack of stable people who can be defined as those follow laws without being forced to comply; defined as those who work in self-supporting jobs; as those who care about each other, etc. are diminishing rapidly and while not lacking in population numbers at present, they are being marginalized at the ballot box and ridiculed in the media to as to brand them extreme.
The tipping point is at hand now. A few more years of liberal social revolution which rejects anything stable/conservative which now equates to Extreme has blinded those who seek to overturn the Country from a nation that once worked like a well oiled engine both socially and economically into a government directed social and economic enterprise.
The Government now must cannibalize those who still support the old economic model in order to support the new economic social model. Those who fail to produce enough to support themselves or support laws they find objectionable will force their chosen political parties to demand more wealth distribution. This is always done via a strong leaders mandate, oftentimes by executive order in our Nation, by passing laws or failing to enforce laws, and finally by literally putting all resources under government control.
The gun control issue is one that puts law abiding Americans into direct conflict with the current Government. The only people who actually support a gun control to take away firearms are those politicians who supporting the 50% part of America that is destroying the economic model in favor of a social economic model. They know that at the final tipping point, a government cannot use force to take the last bit of privately owned property or resources without a fight, and that if necessary there may be an economic breakdown completely whereby the Government must confiscate all wealth in order that those in power and those who support it survive until those who oppose them socially and politically are diminished, finished and destroyed completely.
It is time to let you ponder the many ways our Nation is be torn asunder and to figure out how to successfully survive this transition. Stocking up on Medicines, food/water and other necessities to get through a few months would be wise; It would be wise that immediately upon a Government-made disaster those who are conservative immediately without hesitation move to destroy those who be grasshoppers at the expense of the ants. Hunkering down will not do as at that tipping point those who seek to destroy are the weakest for only a fleeting moment.
I try to think of where to go, but only Russia comes to mind...... No fin diversity wanted or needed.
Both. But unfortunately the base motivations are the same: Get all we can from government, avoid working as much as possible and don't you dare tell me that what I'm doing is wrong.
My only question is whether Obama is our first Caesar or our last. Will he be dictator for life, or the finishing touches of a once great civilization.
My compliments on making me look up a word meaning. It fits.
As for the contents of the article, the author nailed it. Some here added to it and the accumulation of observations is informative.
I agree with one comment about the effect of the coarsing of our society. Another commenter added our education system finds students who do not even know how to dress themselves. The latter comment is a personal rant of mine.
I used to point to the removal of school dress codes to the beginning of society losing its grip because it was the visual manifestation of the change from an orderly leader based institution to that of mob rule.
Face it, it is not possible to save the entire USA, but through secession we could save a huge chunk of it.
I can see a different parallel, one with some very ironic twists to it. And though it didn't happen in the western Roman Empire, it happened in the eastern Roman Empire (which still considered itself the Roman Empire), whose capital was Constantinople.
Much of the irony is based on literal colors assigned to political factions: blue, green, red, and white. In America today, blue would be Democrats, green would be far left radical environmentalist Democrats, red would be Republicans, and white, conservative Republicans.
In Constantinople, these colors existed as well, both as political factions, and as sports teams. There was bitter competition between the two great factions, the blues and the reds, with the greens in loose alliance with the blues, and the whites aligned with, but mostly sidelined by the reds.
The blues were dominant, and were favored by the Emperor, Justinian I, who was a capable administrator but not a tremendous leader. He had a very strong wife, however, in the Empress Theodora I, who had been born a commoner and knew the hard side of life.
The problems began after a major sporting event, when several blue leaders murdered some reds, and were arrested and sentenced to death. The blues and greens rioted, some of the worst riots ever known, and much of the city was burned. Terrible devastation. These were the "Nika" riots.
What began as a protest soon turned into an effort by the blues and the greens to overthrow the emperor, and put one of their own leaders in his place.
The Emperor, again not a strong man, decided to abdicate and flee, but his wife, Theodora I, was made of sterner stuff. She made him sit down with two loyal generals, and scheme to preserve his crown and the empire.
So a peace conference was called, to take place in their great amphitheater. The entire blue and green faction was to attend, and they intended to demand terms of the emperor's surrender and abdication, as well as to elect the new emperor.
Once assembled, the two generals brought their armies to encircle the amphitheater. Then a senior slave, known and liked by all, entered the amphitheater, and approached the leaders of the blue faction with bags of gold.
He said he had been sent by the emperor, and the emperor wanted to remind them that he had supported them in past.
They took the hint, and sent a message to their followers to all march out of the stadium at once, and they did.
The puzzled greens, however, on seeing the blues leave, decided the blues had lost their will to power, so they would name the new emperor from among the green leaders.
Great!, more for us.
Then the armies attacked the amphitheater and killed every one of the greens.
By this action, to which credit should uniquely go to empress Theodora I, the eastern Byzantine Roman Empire, instead of falling, lasted for another 200 years before it again needed a strong leader.
Of course, not all parallels are exact. We do not have an emperor and empress, but an Imperial presidency, for example. Yet the parallels among the political factions are almost eerie.
Nor am I saying that if the 20% most radical Democrats were exterminated, that it would do wonders for our constitutional order, stability and prosperity.
But it might.
That's what the urban blue voted for...6 TIMES!
I've lived in Tennessee and Alabama and both seemed like America to me. Even in the blue states when you go a certain distance outside the cities you're in America. You don't have to go to Russia or the Phillipines to escape. You just need to go to the next county. Maybe "countyism" is the new federalism.
Phillipines = Philippines
At least we allow CCW in Detroit.
The American Body Politic is withering from cancerous tumors right now. Parts of the Body may still be saved, but they need to excised from the spreading cancer.
And soon.
Permanently? Yikes! Does sound nice.
Chartering a free city, one capable of expansion, running on free enterprise and Constitutional principles, might be a better way -- not to mention less likely to be opposed. Who needs an entire state anyway?
Your idea is sound but the next political division down is the state - not the city. You are 2 Civil Wars ahead of the curve.
bert: I take issue with that statement.
So do I for a different reason. Voting only determines the speed, not the destination, which is the demise of America. It isn't a matter of what we voted for, it's a matter of what we are supporting financially; and not only supporting, but making possible. No govt can support itself at all -- it cannot continue to exist -- without the wealth freely, resentfully, grudgingly, fearfully, but always voluntarily, surrendered to it by the people who produce it.
Nobody is sending it one penny more or less than the govt demands, because Obama won, rather than Romney. Nobody. You pay what is demanded. That's the whole problem. You can scream all day how you loathe the government, but if you support it financially 100% all the time, no matter what, you are loving it.
We committed suicide. To help us die we elected a President a member of the Third World, one who does not even belong to our society. In my lifetime if one of his people had announced they were running for "Dog Catcher" our society would have burst out in peals of Homeric laughter. Today they are symptoms of our impending death.
I understand, but chartering a city does not result in a civil war. No state is going to secede, nor would the fed govt allow it (regardless of original terms of statehood).
People are far, far too timid to organize a secession movement. I'm trying to offer something realistic, though even a city would take a generation to beef itself up into a plausible contender.
And if it were mine to name, I'd call it Tax Haven rather than Liberty City. But I'm a cynic. :)
However, I have a faint hope that inside Americans(not Third World invaders)there may be enough spirit left to throw these "Third World leaders" into the trash.
However, I have a faint hope that inside Americans(not Third World invaders)there may be enough spirit left to throw these "Third World leaders" into the trash.
They also believe it's OK to vote 10 times.
I am reminded of the scene from "Easy Rider" when Jack Nicholson tells Dennis Hopper and Peter Fonda that.."This use'd to be a damn good Country."
My return ticket is 12/19. I will go back in Jan/14 if everything goes to plan!
I'll be looking at a rental house just out of this pic, to the right, on Thursday...
excellent synopsis. The tipping point is indeed here or very close at hand.
I'm a huge basketball fan, so a few days ago I was on this sports website called SBNation reading an article about a certain team in the NBA. The guy writing the article saw fit to use the f word several times among other vulgar words. I thought to myself this clown (Matthew Sharp) actually used it as an adjective. He had to know he's writing an article read by adults, and he thought it fit to use f.....g to describe some particular play. I don't know how old this idiot is, but anybody who uses casual obscenity in a sports article that could be read by teens or children is not an adult.
"No state is going to secede, nor would the fed govt allow it (regardless of original terms of statehood)."
Perhaps not.
But a _group of states_, bound together by like-mindedness and preparation, might be in a position to "break off and float away" on their own, in the event of a total collapse of the DC government.
Everyone with foresight sees some kind of "collapse" coming — that's the premise of this thread. But must _every_ state be pulled down into the sinkhole when that happens?
Think back in history to one of the great disasters — the Titanic.
When it hit the iceberg, ripping open the forward portion of the ship, it sank from the bow down.
As the bow dropped lower, it pulled the stern of the ship upwards, right out of the water into the air.
But the forces involved were so great, the weight of the sinking bow vis-a-vis the opposing weight of the rising stern, that "the center" could not hold (apologies to Mr. Yeats). The ship tore itself apart, just below the waterline. (Aside: in Walter Lord's "A Night To Remember", he mentions "a great noise" that everyone heard before the final plunge. But he never mentioned the "split", perhaps because no one realized what actually had happened until Robert Ballard discovered the wreckage in 1985. Perhaps the "noise" people heard was the "tearing" of the superstructure itself.)
Once the bow ripped away, it plunged towards the bottom.
The stern "settled back", before it, too, went down. There were watertight bulkheads "behind" the tear, but they weren't high enough or strong enough to keep the waters out.
BUT — what if the watertight bulkheads in the stern had been high enough and strong enough to enable the stern to float on its own, once the bow was gone? Could those on the stern have survived?
This is what the red states must do — they must "build a bulkhead" that gives them a chance at survival when the DC government collapses and the blue states plunge to the bottom.
We see the red states taking small steps toward doing this today — laws that shield their citizens from ObamaCare, laws that seek to protect the rights of gun owners, etc.
The governors and legislatures of these states must confer with one another, and agree upon a pathway to the future that is "congruent". I'm aware that the Constitution forbids compacts between the states (arrived at outside of the federal process), but no "agreements' need to be codified to paper. It's more important to agree on a general set of principles that each state will use to proceed _independently_ of one another.
And when the time comes, they will be prepared to actually JOIN together, as the rest of the country falls apart and sinks toward the bottom...
All this and they want to take our guns away so we are completely defenseless
If it comes to that, then that WILL BE the collapse the author portends. Americans know that the future figures to be very dangerous and they don't want to face it unarmed.
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