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Skip to comments.MSNBC host Chris Matthews claims Romney's criticism of Obama is Unconstitutional
Posted on 10/20/2012 10:22:00 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
MSNBC host Chris Matthews demonstrated not only his ignorance of the U.S. Constitution, but also revealed the potential danger of his fanatical loyalty to Barack Obama. In a discussion concerning the recent presidential debate between Mitt Romney and President Obama, Matthews made the completely outrageous statement about Romney:
"I don't think he understands the Constitution of the United States... He's the president of the United States. You don't say, "you'll get your chance."'
This statement could be one of the most dangerous statements ever made by a member of the press in the history of United States. Matthews is not only demonstrating his slavish devotion to the president, but his willingness to promote totalitarianism in the mainstream press. For that is exactly what the radical MSNBC television host seems to be advocating when he claims that it is against the law to challenge the president in a political debate.
One must wonder if this type of sentiment is common among the mainstream press, and if Mr. Matthews and his liberal media friends think that whatever Barack Obama dictates is constitutional. There has been not a peep by the mainstream media about what many claim have been potential violations of the Constitution during the past three years. Everythingfrom claiming executive privilege for documents in the Fast and Furious scandal, to the many executive orders issued personally by Obama, or the thousands of new regulations issued by government agencieshave all come under scrutiny for their constitutionality. But Matthews and his liberal media friends have given their "messiah" a pass by either dismissing the opposition's claims or simply ignoring the stories altogether.
A statement like Matthews' is indicative of the liberal media, ignorant of the law and demonstrating complete devotion to Barack Obama. But this dangerous mix will soon be nullified as the American people will rise up in November and send this pack of would-be tyrants packing. Mitt Romney will most likely hand Barack Obama or a major whooping in the presidential election, and there is nothing that the Democrats and their liberal media allies can do about it.
Wildly despicable statements about the supremacy of President Obama or his legal protection from criticism have not been heard from the lips of humans beings since the old Soviet Union, and Matthews should be fired for it. The American press plays a vital role in the defense of freedom from tyranny, and Chris Matthews is violating that sacred trust. He may believe that Barack Obama is infallible and that it is against the law to criticize the president, but it will be interesting to see if he still believes this when Mitt Romney is elected president in November.
hey matthews you complete ignoramus, obama puts his pants on one leg at a time just like anybody else. he is not a king or a dictator much as he would like to be. he is not even a pope. he is totally fallible and has to follow all the rules same as anybody else
oh good grief, who doesn't think this bitch Mathews isn't in a state of strange love (read queer as they come) with Obama.
He would flop over a table before the water boiled.
Guess he missed the nastiness PRESIDENT Bush was shown.
Even the Marxist referred to President Bush, during debate two as "George Bush," so piss off too Barack Hussein.
Piss off, Chris Matthews, you drunkard, slobbering, unconscionable, Marxist adoring idiot.
Move to Kenya so you can continue your Homie Duh Klown act in honor of your excellency....erh, Density...
Chris is a bad joke. And,nthe antithesis of intelligent, inquiring journalism. (Why is he still employed in the media?)
Isn't tingling in the legs a symptom of Parkinson's disease . . . ?
It's a wonder he hasn't followed Olbermann into obscurity already. He's already just as rabid while on-air at MSDNC.
He and his guest agreed that it was an outrage for a citizen to ever speak to a president that way. And that deference should always be shown, even when opposing him in a debate.
Such a mentality sees him as more than a president. To them he is a dear leader, a fuhrer, a transcendent figure. They would lie for him, the would commit any fraud to assist him, and they would kill his opponents (us) if they could only figure out how to get away with it. Such servile worship is the behavior of a cult. America has never been in a more dangerous moment.
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Mathews has become positively unhinged. Criticizing the president is as American as apple pie and baseball.
Which one is Chris Matthews?
A wise woman. In like advice my Buddhist teacher told me "sometimes the most compassionate thing you can do for someone is kick the living s#!t out of them."
Matthews has totally lost it. He just couldn't take all the pressure.
Chris who?
He's in another room receiving electro-shock therapy and a Mani/Pedi.
In an ironic twist one of the most pointed jokes about Chris Matthews' derangement over 0bama was told by 0bama himself.
Obama's hilarious Chris Matthews joke during the Al Smith dinner
Hitler would have loved him.
I don't know, but I think I can see Barack Obama in the mid background...
I never watch MSNBC but isn't that Ed Schultz on the far left?
I have never listened to such an irrational dupe, before....he takes the cake ....and he can take zero, too, and shove him back down in the toilet stall where Chris can get down low for his god. They all are like Sugar Keynes.
Bohemian Grove orgie types with sacrificial altars to Baal.
They are mentally ill and severely warped. God help us get rid of these creeps.
Here's another moron along the same lines:
Romney disrespects the office of presidency
Hitler would've pinned a pink triangle on him and shipped him off to Buchenwald.
Either he says these crazy things for attention to boost ratings, or he really is crazy. I'm not sure which.
This is quite consistent with that Carolina school teacher that said criticizing the president is illegal.
Can't tell, but the dark-haired one in the middle is Rachel.
I noticed that MSNBC viewership is increasing.
I am so offended at the lies and distortions when I tune in - who are these people?
Heh heh
Perhaps people think its a comedy show?
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Lies, Damned Lies, And Statistics
Jonathan Willis
November 17 2011 12:04PM
It's a famous saying, one popularized by the great American writer Mark Twain, who (perhaps incorrectly) attributes it to former British Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli: "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."
What does it mean?
Let's look at the context, which is "Chapters from My Autobiography," published in 1906. Via the marvellous Project Gutenberg:
I was very young in those days, exceedingly young, marvellously young, younger than I am now, younger than I shall ever be again, by hundreds of years. I worked every night from eleven or twelve until broad day in the morning, and as I did two hundred thousand words in the sixty days, the average was more than three thousand words a day--nothing for Sir Walter Scott, nothing for Louis Stevenson, nothing for plenty of other people, but quite handsome for me. In 1897, when we were living in Tedworth Square, London, and I was writing the book called "Following the Equator" my average was eighteen hundred words a day; here in Florence (1904), my average seems to be fourteen hundred words per sitting of four or five hours. I was deducing from the above that I have been slowing down steadily in these thirty-six years, but I perceive that my statistics have a defect: three thousand words in the spring of 1868 when I was working seven or eight or nine hours at a sitting has little or no advantage over the sitting of to-day, covering half the time and producing half the output. Figures often beguile me, particularly when I have the arranging of them myself; in which case the remark attributed to Disraeli would often apply with justice and force: "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."
Let's boil down that full quote to its elements:
- Twain found in his early years that he was writing 3,000 words per day on average. That figured dropped over time to 1,800, and then again down to 1,400 words per day.
- Therefore, using words per day, Twain was slowing down as he aged.
- However, that statistic was flawed – Twain was actually spending fewer hours writing each day, and when he used words per hour, rather than words per day, he found that his writing had not slowed at all.
- Reflecting on the misleading nature of words per day, Twain referenced a saying he liked: "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."
It is an example we can compare directly to hockey. A player might go from scoring one point per game one year to 0.8 points per game the next year, leading some to conclude that his scoring rate has dropped. If, however, his ice-time has gone down by the same amount, we could point to that and reflect, as Twain did, on "lies, damned lies, and statistics."
Put another way, it was never intended as an argument against using statistics, just an argument that statistics can mislead if not checked carefully.
An interesting side note: I mentioned above that Twain may have been incorrect in attributing the quote to Benjamin Disraeli. The website "The Phrase Finder" notes that there is no record of that quote in any of Disraeli's published documents or letters. It credits Leonard Courtney with the first published use of the phrase.
Why is that interesting? Courtney (pictured above with the glorious facial hair), a politician and academic, used the phrase in 1895. In 1897, he became President of the Royal Statistical Society, a professional body for statisticians.
In other words, there's good reason to laugh if someone uses that quote as a refutation of all statistics – as it was instead intended to show the need to identify the right statistic, and primarily used by men who did so.
FIRST !! impressed?
" And tell 'em Lanny sent ya "
I have used that quote but never to refute ALL statistics and in reality I can't imagine anyone educated doing so.
Anyone studying anything, whether it be hockey stats, statements to the press, etc should always be careful that the whole picture is being represented.
November 17 2011, 12:25PM
I wonder what Brownlee thinks about this.
November 17 2011, 12:43PM
The problem with statistical analysis in hockey is that it's basically all post-hoc.
Yeah, I know the Flames suck. I know the players suck. I don't need "Corsi" to know this. I can look at their game record.
The players have bad "stats" because the team is bad. The team has bad stats because the players are bad. QED.
The real problem is that so few people are really able to distinguish valid statistical work from invalid. For example, sport staties try to predict future behaviour of dynamic systems with techniques that are only valid for static data. The data on, say, player performance, is almost certainly heterogenous, meaning it can't tell you what is going to happen next with any degree of reliability. Any degree. We're not just talking matters of confidence intervals here, but completely meaningless. Any apparent patterns are just that: apparent. That's why it can all seem so reliable for a while, then go to hell in a handbasket. Basically, you can't get there from here. Or not with that map, anyway. Anyway, good luck. (I know you'll just keep on doing it anyway. - http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/23/magazine/dont-blink-the-hazards-of-confidence.html?_r=4&ref=general&src=me&pagewanted=all)
Reminds me of the comment of Marc Crawford on TSN, last night, in regards to Boom Boom Geoffrion..."There are three things I want you to do...skate and shoot..."
November 17 2011, 01:27PM
@Jonathan Willis
That's not a statistical prediction.
First off, you don't even know the p-value of the numbers you are using, so how can you even begin to start to calculate the odds of his play dropping?
Secondly, you've just done another post-hoc analysis. You're saying "Aha! See, he's having a bad season! I can ascertain this by his past play!"
November 17 2011, 01:36PM
Here's one (or two) of my biggest problems with SOME of the stats crowd.
1) Elitism. Some members of the group seem to radiate a sense of elitism about stats that is off-putting. Stats are nice, but like JW says, it's most basic division. It's not rocket surgery or brain science. There always seems to be a new stat du jour that if you arent quoting then you must be some kind of infantile. Not a fan of that.
2) There is an extreme overvaluation of fringe stats that mean very little to even pro-active members of the Hockey world. Goals win games. Zone starts, PDO, Corsi, and Fenwick dont win games. The game is decided by whoever has the most goals at the end of regulation and OT if needed. Most "Advanced" stats are secondary, maybe even tertiary stats that offer a numerical value for context. They are contextual in nature. Who was on the ice against who, where did they start their shift, etc. These stats supplement "Standard" stats. They better inform them when possible, but they are not at all more important than the standards.
3) The Stats are still subjective. Dividing goals by ice time is objective. Deciding what that number actually means towards the analysis of a hockey player is subjective. Hits? Subjective. Take-Aways? Subjective. Scoring chance? Subjective. Heck. Not long ago Bruce McCurdy wrote an intriguing article with the conclusion that being outshot had very little bearing on the outcome of a game. What does that do to a stat like Corsi that tracks shots for and against? Whatever it does, it will be subjective. The stat itself is pretty straight forward. How it's applied, understood, and collected can be incredibly subjective.
4) Too many Stats-happy opinioneers are lacking in their ability to use the written word. Thankfully Jonathan Willis writes for the Nations, because he is one of the few (it seems) that is both a Writer and a proponent of Advanced Stats. It is not MY problem as a reader that advanced stats are often presented in the most reader unfriendly manner. It is the problem of the author that a perfectly good idea or argument is not reaching potential readers due to a lack of style or ability. Ryan Batty, I believe, in a recent piece suggested that story telling in sports is less required today more than ever. I am here to call bullsh*t.
The hockey world needs eloquent writers who can appeal to larger audiences more than ever, and it needs those writers to have a solid grasp on the Advanced Stats. A stat is just a number until it is infused with meaning, and story tellers are desperately required to give these things meaning.
@Matt Henderson
Well written, this is exactly right. Tell stories.
A statistic without an estimate of the error bar basically is a useless number.
A lot of stats guru's throw around statistics without providing any estimates of the error, making the assumption that the error bar is small enough to make their statistic valid.
But that is a dangerous assumption,.
Determining the error bar on a statistic is usually the hard work that never gets done.
But that is the real work, the real proof of the statistic.
November 17 2011, 02:44PM
First post after a few years of lurking...
I don't think there's any denying that certain elements of the pro-stats crowd CAN be smarmy. "Come on you moron, don't you know that his Diefenbaker Index is over 6.5?!" We've all met them, but unreasonable people from all camps are a pain to deal with. To the same extent, certain members of the "Lies, damned lies" group are just as bad.
Anyway... Traditional hockey boxcars long ago took on qualities of language. By saying that a guy is a 50 goal scorer or 100 point man, or had 300 penalty minutes, we get an immediate idea of what that player is: the sniper, the scorer and the goon. That language is firmly established, fills in key details immediately, has had meaning to most of us since we were little boys, and we haven't been called upon to expand our vocabulary very much over those years. Given that, I imagine that Zone Starts and Corsi and PDO can sound a bit like a foreign language to some people.
This isn't to say that people who disagree with the use of advanced stats simply don't understand them; I don't think that at all. For my part, I'm uncomfortable with pretty much any extreme viewpoints in life, and it's the same for me in this area, too. Being 100% in the All Stats group or all Saw-Him-Good club doesn't help anybody.
Archeologuy: I couldn't agree with you more about finding stats-based writers with the ability to actually write. I've liked stats for many years in baseball, worked on my own in hockey for many years as well, but to just read a blizzard of numbers with android-like text in between? /shudder
November 17 2011, 02:56PM
For a team like the Oilers had in 2009-2010 stats were very useful in determining whom they ought to flush and who would be best kept around. The statistics in that situation coincided with what most fans to that point had realized: that players like Patrick O'Sullivan, J. F. Jacques, Ethan Moreau, and Robert Nilsson were better to take out of the equation now than to continue with.
The Flames will likely have to do some similar roster algorithms to determine the best assets to keep and the best ones to polish up and put in the storefront.
November 17 2011, 03:07PM
I have no comment at this time.
The use of Twain here made my day, especially because the article doesn't just throw the Twain quotation out there, but actually takes time to explain it in its proper context. In the English teaching world we call this close reading, which really just means looking at every word carefully and figuring out exactly what is being written. I think the same technique should be applied to the use of Advanced stats. It's one thing to have them, but quite another to look at them closely and figure out exactly what they mean beyond the raw numbers. Willis and Lowetide are especially good at this.
November 17 2011, 03:18PM
Somewhat on topic:
For anyone is interested in the most intense and thorough investigation into the social capital of "expertise" and the various games of dissimulation (both conscious and unconscious) at play in the marshalling of data, facts and value, I can recommend nothing more than Orson Welles' 1974 filmic essay F For Fake:
Bogdanovich talking about it:
The movie in full:
Highly recommended!
Good article and good post by Archaeloguy.
To get to the meat and potatoes of the argument: stats are too often misused and abused by people trying to support their argument.
Stats very much have their place, but must be employed with very clear objectives beforehand as to what you want them to accomplish, used in a concise, consitent manner and carried out without any bias or hopes of reaching a foregone conclusion.
Otherwise, stats are worse than useless, they are misleading and give false information.
November 17 2011, 03:53PM
@Matt Henderson
I'll agree with you that how they are presented is incredibly subjective and most amateur statistic fans seem to make sweeping statements based on some ridiculously simple calculations then drawing deep conclusions because of some percieved correlation.
IE The genius who was screaming that the Nuge couldn't play hockey because his assists to goals ratio was too high. (Although in the end he quantified that this deep analysis only works for top 5 picks and you have to ignore anyone else.)
At the level we are fed there is no effort to provide the math or explanation behind it, identifying outliers, modeling it and any sort of quantitative qualifying statements to give some sort of perspective.
The biggest problem is dividing things by other things and claiming the outcome is significant is not Statistics nor is it Advanced statistics. Its, well looking for a way to quantify a feeling they have about a particular player.
Number one rule of stats for anyone who isn't sure what all this means. Correlation IS NOT equal to Causation, just because someone notices a trend that higher goal scoring teams tend to win does not at that point mean anything until a lot more work is done to quantify and verify.
Luckily for you there are a lot of people who devote several years to post secondary educations to understand this stuff and I am pretty sure the Oilers pay those people bags of money to help them.
So stat haters rest well! You don't have to do the math, nor do you have to pay attention! Someone else is getting payed to have those sleepless nights for you :)
November 17 2011, 03:56PM
The problem with statistical analysis in hockey is that it's basically all post-hoc.
Yeah, I know the Flames suck. I know the players suck. I don't need "Corsi" to know this. I can look at their game record.
The players have bad "stats" because the team is bad. The team has bad stats because the players are bad. QED.
Corsi tells you which players are sucking and which might not be. Like all other stats, they lend context to your understanding of a player. PDO, for example, is hugely useful (especially because you can't "watch the game" in order to get a good feel for it); look at Phil Kessel, starting the year off as the leading scorer in the NHL. Does this mean he's literally the best offensive player in the NHL? Nope. His shooting percentage, and his line's on-ice shooting percentage were THREE TIMES higher the mean (Kessel's career average, NHL mean respectively). That's flat-out ludicrous.
Advanced stats can help understand that a guy is snake-bitten, product of his circumstances, etc. in ways that simply watching the game can't do alone. Nobody can watch enough hockey or pay close enough attention to get the kind of meaty understanding that one gets from a combination of watching the game and looking at the underlying numbers.
November 17 2011, 05:05PM
I seem to remeber your advanced statistics pointing to Linus Omark as the best defensive player on the Oilers roster. Regardless of what statistics were used to prove something like that Ray Charles can see that it just doesnt make it so.
Stats guy kept saying, "although it looks like Dustin Penner doesn't try very hard, have a look at his underlying stats. He's a valuable player."
November 17 2011, 09:29PM
@Matt Henderson
That post alone should have a button for props in increments of 5 and 10.
100% agree.
I do not consider myself a stats guy, but I do think that the virulently anti-stats crowd is confused. The only thing that matters about a hockey game is a stat: who won, who lost. If team A looks better by eye but loses the game, no one cares. If Linus Omark looks like crap on defence but his line doesn't get scored on, then his defence works. Unless, of course, advanced stats show that he's getting lucky with weak opponents and great goaltending.
Yes and no. The only thing that matters about a hockey game is entertainment, no? Otherwise it would be a bunch of people sitting around rolling dice.
A great example of a stats guy throwing out unsubstantiated claims in a language all his own.
Sorry for the novel-
I have to agree with Archaeologuy in regard to 'elitism' or whatever attitude comes up at times, especially in some writer's responses to comments. I have often thought rude and angry. Reminds me of university and and all the self righteous, narrow focused angry crap I heard from people studying the sciences.
Many people take the attitude that the 'net is a free for all, including some writers. In reality, rough insulting language and personal attacks are a demonstration of having no class, and perhaps being a bully. The course of human history has shown that neither of these traits have value, and nothing has changed since the advent of the net.
I have often wondered how some responses to posts I've made would have been put around a table in a pub. My guess is with a lot less vitriol and attitude. Internet tough guys are cowards of the highest order. I can't recall ever seeing that in your work JW, which is a sign of your class, and why I enjoy reading your work more than the other stats based Oiler writers now.
I also agree that some of the stats writers could use language better. However I don't see the issue as one of quality or style, as much as the misuse of words, especially to prove a point in a rebuttal to a commenter. Given the seemingly high level of education for most of the writers, it calls honesty into question, and is part of the backlash against stats writers to me. It's not that the numbers are necessarily wrong, more that people naturally dislike being manipulated and have a repulsion to BS.
An example of this is a time I stated I prefer bigger players, took all kinds of abuse from writers and commenters. I was thinking closer to the NHL average as opposed to players far under it which the Oilers have had so many of. Most who got angry at me turns out assumed I meant guys as big as Lucic. It is important to clearly define words and parameters if you want a clear analysis and reasonable debate.
To me there is a difference in a writer misusing language and stats to promote a point of view, and a commenter doing so. Everyone should show respect, and commenters that don't should simply be moderated, and banned if disruptive and noncontributing. The writers are in control of the forum, so should be held to a higher standard.
I am interested in understanding hockey, and that has lead me to an interest in stats. I don't have the time to become expert in them. I have at times made mistakes commenting, or gone against the current flavour du jour of the stats gurus and had really mean spirited angry retorts from guys getting paid for me to read their work. I think that is completely unacceptable, immature, and in the end the writer's anger biased them so much they were often wrong.
To get my stats chops up I read the abandoned blog Irreverent Oiler Fans, where much of this whole thing was born. Vic Ferrari is the standard all who write about hockey stats should hold themselves to. For those of you who don't trust or care for hockey stats, the key to their validity lies mainly with one thing - context. And context is what takes the time, and the smarts.
Many of the stats writers we read now commented on Vic's posts, and cut their stats teeth there. What continually came up was the context in which numbers were looked at. When Corsi or Fenwick should be used. How those numbers are better for looking at long periods of time, and aren't deeply meaningful for a single game, unless looked at in the context of who a player played, when and how much. I think it is fair to say a lot of what we read is superficial analysis and not given the rigour the best and very likely brightest Oiler stats blogger Vic Ferrari says it needs.
The type of player analysis JW often uses is valid and is actually just basic logic. Players will not play above their normal demonstrated level for more than certain periods of time. The only time this doesn't hold up is when there was a mistake made in assessing what that normal level of play is, and that is usually an issue of context not being accounted for. It is very hard to argue this, especially because there is so many examples to support it.
Same for LT's NHL equivalency pieces. Not set in stone, but a pretty good look at the future of player, that has a lot of research by Desjardin behind it, and hundreds of examples to verify it.


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i doubt that is true and btw, how is croc supposed to suck the water out of aikanus body? i mean, if magma burns fire, it sure will burn up sand
i doubt that is true and btw, how is croc supposed to suck the water out of aikanus body? i mean, if magma burns fire, it sure will burn up sand
well.. akainu is like half dead after getting hit by white beard and Ivankov. So he is not full strength compared to croc. And Croc could most likely dodge Akainus attacks...
He also has WB crew helping him out..
That's an interesting twist if Law shows up. I didn't think anyone else was gonna show up but then again this is One Piece. But It'll be very interesting to see the Dark Doctor at work, might be what Luffy needs to get out of his trance.
EPIC Law is EPIC. And do you know what that means Gypseslice? Pandaman has arrived
Makes sense... Didnt they call Law the "Dark Doctor" or something of that nature?
If this is true, then Law may be luffy's pirate rival like wb was roger's. He'd have law for his ally/pirate rival, coby for his marine rival like garp/roger, and kidd would probably be like shiki and try to get luffy to join him but luffy always declines since he doesnt like the way kidd does things since shakky revealed he attacks innocent bystanders.
gotta love how oda's unpredictable though. i was just expecting jimbei to break through the ice and swim away with luffy. then again law did tell bepo that they were setting sail after the transmission got cut
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There's a saying in the OP forums which goes like this..."If a new unidentified character is wearing a hat, he must be Sabo!"...Yeah, take that Obitio/Tobi/Madara theorists!
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But how did Law get there??
I hope Ivankov and Inazuma aren't dead yet, there's enough dead people as it is.
Oh good to see Law there by the way, atleast 2 of the Supernova's have man-like testicles.
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By KENT PETERSENFerron
In my opinion this has been a sad election for Emery County. The defeat of the Monument Initiative took us out of the forefront of western counties trying to resolve their own destiny to a point where we do not even know what direction we are going.
We had a chance to work with the president, the department on the interior, and the governor of the state of Utah to design a monument that would manage the San Rafael Swell in a way that would protect those values most important to the people of this county and we voted it down.
All the people I have talked to since the election have said, "We have to go on, we can't let it stop here, we have too much to lose". I agree but what can we do? This was not a debate about "the meaning of is". We voted whether "the Emery County Commission shall, by resolution, endorse the establishment of 621,000 acres of public land in Emery County as the "San Rafael Western Heritage Monument." A sizable majority of the voters said no. I realize the public lands council and the commission can get around it just by making the monument 620,000 acres, but it is going to be difficult for them to say they have the support of the public when the public voted no.
I am finding that I am apparently not the only one who does not know what should happen as a result of the election. It appears the opposition is just as confused. Last Friday I got a letter from the leader of the opposition, Mark H. Williams saying he is going to have a meeting to establish a new plan that we will all love. He is bringing in "outside experts" and news media from the Wasatch Front. I don't think that's what the ballot initiative that I voted on said. It is ironic that they seem to be saying they want to do what the monument process was already doing, but they worked very hard to convince us to vote to kill that process.
Then on Sunday I read another letter from Williams in the Salt Lake Tribune. This letter was a learned dissertation on FLPMA (Federal Land Policy Management Act) and the protections it supposedly provides for the local citizens.
Williams' second letter was in response to a Tribune Editorial on Nov. 10 that stated: "Federal, State, and Local officials should move the monument question to a broader stage, one less easily manipulated. Emery County voters have had their say. Millions of others deserve the same opportunity." It looks like the Tribune is saying we lost our chance and now its time for others to take over the process. Who will those people will be?
Do the citizens of this county realize what we have done? We would have been able to write the proclamation which would establish the management of the monument. This document would protect our heritage, our grazing, hunting, and most of all our water. (Read Jeffrey O. Durrant's opinion piece on water in the Nov. 5 Emery County Progress for an excellent discussion of the potential effect of any management plan on water rights). The proclamation determines how the monument will be managed during its existence. No president has ever changed the proclamation on another president's monument. Several monuments got bigger but the management emphasis was never changed. Even if we can get things back on track it is questionable whether we can ever have the control we had before.
If the monument proposal had gone through it would have established a precedent for future presidents if they want to establish any new monuments. Future presidents would have been obligated to go through the very public process we were going through. This not only would have been good for us, but it would have provided a way for other rural counties to develop their own processes.
Emery County would have had permanent representation on the monument advisory council. We would have been part of the planning for, and management of the monument. We have lost that opportunity.
It is ironic that the biggest concern from the opposition was access and roads. The BLM will be putting out their access management plan after the first of the year. This was going to happen whether the monument was established or not. How many people think the results of this election will increase the access on the San Rafael?
The fallback protection for access is the county's RS 2477 assertion. The governor has a statewide initiative going on with the BLM to protect these rights. One of the complaints by the opposition was they wanted these decisions to be made locally, not by "outsiders." One of the driving forces for us to be proactive was that the public lands council wanted to avoid another Grand Staircase Escalante Monument.
The full page ad from SUWA probably provided the death knell for the monument. SUWA did not say in their ad that they supported the monument proposal, they supported a monument that supported their way of thinking. I think they have a better chance of getting what they want now that the monument process was defeated.
Most of all I was saddened by what I consider as attacks made on the individual county commissioners and members of the public lands council as well as the governor, and the president. We have always prided ourselves on our ability to get along. These people put in many hours in our behalf, even if we don't agree with their proposals.
I am not sure what we should do for our next step but perhaps our best chance is to see if we can get the original process back on track. I am sure that whatever the process is we don't want it led by outsiders and special interests. I'd rather see it led by the people duly elected by the citizens of Emery County.


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Please tell me that is NOT an Amanda dress that Heidi is wearing!! Seeing that Amanda's dress won last week (And the girl is obsessed with fringe), pretty much shows how lame Project Runway has become or maybe always has been! The German dude should have won, and didn't even make it into the TOP three looks! Grrrr. Sorry, And…Rant over.
Cat looks lovely though.
Love Cat's gown!ReplyCancel
Wow… I just noticed that Ian Somerhalder. He's a very attractive man. I wonder if anybody else noticed…ReplyCancel
Hello, Nikki Reed.
I like to notice Ian. He is def worthy.
And sure reminds me of a young Rob Lowe.
@Jane3113 I noticed the same! I am offended by it. I do NOT obsessively devour celeb pics for a bunch scowly faces on the red carpet #livethedreambitches
Hedi looks good…if she stays in that position the whole time! (hehehe)
Cat's waist looks like a magic trick.ReplyCancel
Heidi's dress is FANTASTIC. I love it.
I can't figure out why the judges love Sandhya? She's terrible.ReplyCancel