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I made this one for myself. Ponchos are coming back (or maybe never went away). They were popular when I was younger though I've never had one. I have mixed feelings on the yarn I chose. Part of me wishes I had gone with a neutral solid color, but the colors of this yarn drew me in at the shop.
The yarn is Berroco Boboli in color #5340. It took 6 skeins. The pattern is Hugo by Gosia Grajdek. Here I am modeling the finished poncho.

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By Adam Ganucheau/NEMS Daily Journal
TUPELO – Mississippians can boast being near the top of a good nationwide list with the announcement the state ranks sixth for dog ownership.
The American Veterinarian Medical Association provided the ranking in its U.S. Pet Ownership and Demographics Sourcebook, which breaks down pet ownership by state.
The report indicates that 45.2 percent of Mississippi households owned a dog in 2011.
"The (ranking) doesn't surprise me at all," said Kimberly Kelly, veterinarian at Cloverhaven Animal Hospital in Tupelo. "I think Mississippi's numbers are high because we live in a very rural part of the country, and people have the means to own multiple pets."
This year's report lists data from 2011, but the study was conducted throughout 2012 and released earlier this month. The data is collected from the AVMA's 82,500 member veterinarians across the country.
"We have estimated that about 10 percent of households, or about 7,300 people, in Tupelo own pets," said Tupelo-Lee Humane Society Executive Director Debbie Hood. "At the Humane Society, we have seen a steady increase of people coming in and adopting pets."
The increase in the rankings has produced an increase in pet-related revenue for local store owners.
"Pet supply sales have steadily increased over the last few years," Tupelo's Tractor Supply store manager John Hay said. "We're seeing that animal supplies have become a larger and larger part of our sales."
The states ranked above Mississippi in dog ownership are Arkansas, New Mexico, Kentucky, Missouri and West Virginia. The sixth-place ranking is something that Mississippi should be proud of, according to Kelly.
"People are creating stronger relationships with their pets," Kelly said. "That's always a good thing to see."


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Miss WA Gets a Nod at Miss America Pageant
Miss Washington and Miss North Dakota have picked up prizes in the third day of preliminary Miss America competition in Las Vegas.
Miss Washington Mandy Schendel took the trophy for the third round of the Lifestyle and Fitness category after modeling a strapless white Catalina swimsuit. The 22-year-old from Newcastle, Wash., earned a $1,000 Amway scholarship for it.
Miss North Dakota Rosie Sauvageau took top honors Thursday after her piano and vocal rendition of "To Make You Feel My Love." The 24-year-old from Fargo, N.D., will take a $2,000 Amway scholarship home from the competition at Planet Hollywood resort.
Contestants are divided into three groups and compete in different categories during three nights of preliminaries. Their scores factor in the finals that will be broadcast live on Saturday.


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Ugh. For some bizarre reason when she was competing she brought out an obsessive nastiness in what seemed like a lot of posters. They couldn't just ignore her or comment that she had a fall like any other skater. It was always that she blew the gold medal, she was lazy, she lied, she had crappy skating skills - it went on and on. I've been on these boards since 2006 and never seen another skater treated like that. Anyway, it's quieted down a lot since she stopped competing. If she gets one of the USA's two Olympic spots I'm sure there will be a revival of Sasha-bashing.
And then Dee and I will start up our patrol again.
Not saying Cohen hasn't been trashed...there were some posters in the "old days" of GS that made it their mission to take her down a notch...but I really think the "Sasha-bashing" situation is being way over-dramatized. Posters are critical of her but critical does not equal bashing. Anyway, i think some of the harshest comments toward Cohen recently have actually come from her own fans (perhaps in frustration). Nonfans just don't think she will do it...most of them anyway.
Agreed with R.D...most elite skaters get picked apart and trashed on occasion but their fans come out in droves to defend. Sasha has a lot of fans who jump right in...from both ends. Look back at threads after Oly and Worlds 2006, you'd think Sasha purposely threw the Gold away to disappoint her fans.
I do think a lot of the anti-Sasha feelings came up because she was anointed the Next Best Thing Ever and a lot of things that came out of her mouth and her camp's mouth were not very PR savvy. I mean, you gotta have oodles of confidence in your abilities to be an elite skater, cocky even, but FS paints this "pweety little pwincess" theme and many of Sasha's antics coupled with Nicks PR campaign didn't fit the mold. Plus, she was constantly praised by the media for being this technically great skater, and those of us who have followed skating for years wonder why no one pointed out the blantant flutz (my FAVE huh?? moment is at 2005 Nats when Dick showed Sasha's 3lz/2t and said,"Technically just perfect!" or something like that, flutz and hand down), the habit of landing on the wrong edge, the not so deep edging and lack of speed/power and ice coverage the elite skaters have. Instead, we heard about a 4sal and the ability to touch her knee to her ear.
This is NOT to say Sasha is the weakest elite skater of her time-she had beautiful positions in everything she did from the ankles up, and few had better air positions in their jumps-super flat back, tight rotation and pointed toes.
That said, I hope Sasha comes back if she is capable of performing up to her own standards. If not, there are plenty other skaters to watch and I wish her best in her future endeavors.
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As I recall, there was a period (probably through the 2001-02 season) where she came in for a lot of criticism for some of her behavior. Back in the newsgroups of the day, she'd acquired the nickname Li'l Miss Thang for some not very gracious or sportsmanlike comments and antics (notably bird dogging Kwan in the 2002 nats warm-ups).
As she matured and her behavior improved that nickname disappeared and I've never perceived that she's been criticised more than anyone else since.
Cohen is out of SA (according to Hersh):
icenetwork says it too
So now that Sasha is officially out of Skate America, what are the quesses that she will be ready for nationals, and actually compete there. Is Sasha's comeback over?
She's DONE. Just like a roasted turkey...stick a fork in her, shift the focus to promising American skaters (mainly talking to NBC here )
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It's going to kill you when she shows up at Nationals (and wins).
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Today in weird and inappropriate things said live on ESPN, we have NFL reporter Ed Werder making a tasteless joke about the weight of soon-to-be Kansas City Chiefs coach Andy Reid.
During a report about Reid's negotiations with the Chiefs, Werder offered a reason Reid wasn't on a flight to Kansas City with the team's search committee. (Emphasis added.)
"Chiefs owner Clark Hunt and his delegation that includes GM Scott Pioli has actually left Philadelphia and return to Kansas City without Andy Reid in tow. Now I don't know if that's because Andy Reid might put the plane over its weight limit, but there's no apparent breakdown in the deal. The expectation still is that Andy Reid is going to be the next head coach of the Kansas City Chiefs."
Ooh, burn! With comic chops like that, I can't believe he didn't throw in a zinger about the quality of the food on the airplane. Or that Scott Pioli's arms were really tired after flying from Philadelphia.
What a strange thing for Werder to say, especially for a reporter who's used to covering guys who weigh a ton. I mean, it's not like Andy Reid is a fish (or, as Werder might put it, a whale) out of water. He's not working with gymnasts or the Moscow Ballet. He's a big man in a game filled with them. Making a fat joke about someone involved in football is like ripping on a politician's narcissism. Fish. Barrel.
You can tell it flustered even Werder. He stumbles over his words after making the "joke," almost as if he didn't realize what he was saying until after he said it.
The most reasonable explanation for the gaffe: Werder was taking out his mustache envy on the portly Reid. Say what you will about the man's girth, but he has one glorious 'stache.
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Show type: Edinburgh Fringe 2003
Perrier best newcomer 2002. Fresh from their second series on Radio 4, The Consultants return to Edinburgh for the inevitable backlash. Sketches, songs, bum and poo jokes. It's all there.
Older Comments
The Consultants - 25/10/2003
Gosh. We must stop.
Mark - 10/10/2003
Miserable. What makes them think they can get away with saying jokes I saw done better on kids TV by Edmonds, Philbin et al? And you'd think they could have learnt their lines.
Mark - 07/10/2003
It was awful. The indian execution was the worst but the ginger haired one singing "dem bones" made me squirm
Mark - 30/09/2003
Drivel. The songs were alright, the rest of it was embarassing and that sketch with the Chinese woman was offensive.
Mark - 09/09/2003
Rubbish. I couldn't tell why everyone else was laughing - not only did they do so-called 'funny' songs but they made several racialist comments during the show and seem to think that is funny being gay, which it is not. I won't be seeing them again and that's for sure.
Mark - 20/08/2003
Amazingly bad. Out of about a hundred fringe shows over the years this was probably the worst I've ever seen. A sketch about Jack and Jill/Little Jack Horner taking industrial action, or a 'boarding schoolmaster' character threatening to cane his kids, are the sort of things you wouldn't expect in a sixth form revue by special needs children. How the hell are these people on Radio Four - they might be talented performers but their material's barely funny enough to be in the weather section, let alone sustain its own series.


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Harold Camping is "flabbergasted" that the world did not end on May 21st as he had predicted. I think it's because he didn't account for the devastation that will be wrought by Republican budget cuts for fiscal 2012, which doesn't begin until October 1st. Therefore, Camping's new predication that the world will end on October 21st is much more plausible.
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High-Speed Rail and Federalism
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Trinity, Oneness and The Persons of the Godhead
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07-19-2011, 10:55 PM (This post was last modified: 07-19-2011, 11:00 PM by prayerwarrior35.)
(07-03-2011, 11:49 AM)SeekTruth Wrote: I know of that carm.org link, and it's a huge misrepresentation of Oneness Pentecostalism.My wife was into the Oneness Pentacostal church when we began to date. I had never heard of Oneness or Trinity before so I asked some elders and they explained what the Trinity was and from my own biblical understanding it made sense completely. Then I ask my wife what Oneness was and she said it's basically Jesus and God and the Holy Spirit are one, and that made sense completely, I didn't see the difference in the two concepts at all, until I learned her preacher state that baptism in the "Father, Son and Holy Spirit" is wrong and I had a heart break because that's how Jesus said to be baptised (was he calling Jesus a liar or at least claim Jesus was wrong?)... So then I ask why it's wrong when all three are mentioned and are the same and that was the ONLY way Jesus said to be baptised, he tries to explain that there aren't three at all, there's only one = further heartbreak because I've read many verses that explain how God and Jesus and the Holy Spirit are different... Such as if we are in God's presence we'll die which is why Jesus was born of flesh, and why we're separated because of our sin, or how Jesus cries to God about being forsaken when he becomes sin himself, or how Jesus leaves but promises the spirit of God will be amongst us. I determined that Oneness was trying to limit the power and authority of God to fit into man's belief or perhaps just to cause undue division.
If the teachings about God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit are that Jesus was just trying to confuse everyone when stating he sits at the right hand of God, or how He will return later and until then we'll have the Holy Spirit, or that nobody gets to God but through him, well let's just say when the bible says 'these three are one' (basically the trinity concept), it also means 'the one are three', both sides of the equation are correct. Thankfully I have a wife that is after biblical truth so we were able to study the bible together and come to the agreement that she believed the three are different, and we both agreed that the Catholic statement about the trinity being three 'persons' was a poorly worded statement. Basically the divinity of God is beyond our understanding, and while the trinity concept tries to simplify this uncomprehensible concept and tries very well, it doesn't even come close to explain the true glory of God (but it does a better job than Oneness which clashes with much of the bible). Trinity can at least state that the three are ONE, the Oneness can't state that the ONE is three...
We didn't attend that church much longer, he kept adding statements to the bible about people recieving the holy spirit as evident by speaking in tongues (which wasn't at all what the bible said if you read along with him but everyone jumped up and yelled), or how he kneeled and worshipped at the foot of a cross (worshipping a man-made idol) or how it's a sin to have facial hair (really now???), or how women can't cut their hair because Samson didn't cut his hair (as if there aren't enough laws in the bible to follow, they have to make up their own). Way to unbiblical for my taste, I prefer a church that sticks to the word of God, we left and never looked back, sad though since my wife had so many friends there and they abandoned her because she choose to go to another church with me...
God >>>>>>>>>>>>> Trinity >> Oneness.
Neither explain very well the true nature of God more than an honest open Bible study, but Trinity does a better job than Oneness.
My posts keep getting deleated but ill try again.
The Trinity theory debunked in 5 seconds
One Tree 3 Branches
3 Trees = Idol-i-Tree
(10-16-2011, 03:50 PM)Eliyahu Wrote: My posts keep getting deleated but ill try again.
Read your email from my website and read the forum rules and the reply to your rude introduction. Stop saying your posts are getting deleted. Threads you start are getting deleted because it violates forum rules. Start abiding the forum rules or you will lose posting privileges.
3John 1:4 I have no greater joy than to hear that my children walk in truth.
Isaiah 40:31 But they that wait upon the LORD shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint.
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10-16-2011, 04:01 PM (This post was last modified: 10-16-2011, 04:02 PM by Rose of Shushan.)
Welcome to the forum Eliyahu.
Was your post meant to be a bad joke? It wasn't very funny to me.
About your posts being supposedly censored, did you check the forum rules where it says that newbies may not start threads? It helps to prevent us being flooded by spammers as tends to happen on many forums.
Mar 12:29 And יהושע answered him, "The first of all the commands is, 'Hear, O Yisra'ĕl, יהוה our Elohim, יהוה is one.
Mar 12:30 'And you shall love יהוה your Elohim with all your heart, and with all your being, and with all your mind, and with all your strength.' This is the first command.
the word Elohim is plural. 1 tree 3 branches
the father testifies to love the son and listen to him
the son testifies to love the father and listen to him
the sprit testifies יהושע is the son. as well as all truth
Elohim is one
(10-16-2011, 04:23 PM)Eliyahu Wrote: Mar 12:29 And יהושע answered him, "The first of all the commands is, 'Hear, O Yisra'ĕl, יהוה our Elohim, יהוה is one.
Is this Hebrew Roots attempt to explain the Godhead?
What Scripture do you have that says God is 1 tree and 3 branches?
Jesus is God manifest in the flesh, fully man and fully God, and the Son of God. THe Holy Spirit, the Comforter, is the Spirit of God, the Father and the Spirit of Christ that indwells every believer. Jesus refers to the Father and the Holy Spirit as HE and the Spirit of Truth and so on. POst 17 shows the manifestation or presence of all three at the same time, to show the personhood and separateness of each and yet the unity of the Godhead.
Joh 14:16-18
(16) And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
(17) Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
(18) I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.
Joh 14:20
(20) At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.
Joh 14:23-26
(23) Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.(24) He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.
(25) These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you.
(26) But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
Joh 15:26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:
Joh 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart I will send him unto you.
Rom 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
Rom 8:10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
Rom 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
Rom 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
Rom 8:15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
Rom 8:16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
Rom 8:17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
Rom 8:26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
Rom 8:27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
Rom 8:34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
Psa 44:21 Shall not God search this out? for he knoweth the secrets of the heart.
Jer 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
Jer 17:10 I the LORD search the heart, I try the reins, even to give every man according to his ways, and according to the fruit of his doings.
These verses were brought to mind about branches and such.
Joh 15:1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.
Joh 15:2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.
Joh 15:3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.
Joh 15:4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.
Joh 15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
Joh 15:6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.
Joh 15:7 If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.
Joh 15:8 Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.
Act 17:23 For as I passed by, and beheld your devotions, I found an altar with this inscription, TO THE UNKNOWN GOD. Whom therefore ye ignorantly worship, him declare I unto you.
Act 17:24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;
Act 17:25 Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things;
Act 17:26 And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;
Act 17:27 That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us:
Act 17:28 For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.
Act 17:29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.
Act 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:
Act 17:31 Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.
Col 2:7 Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving.
Col 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
Col 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
Col 2:10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
Joh 1:4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
Joh 1:5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
Joh 1:6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
Joh 1:7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.
Joh 1:8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.
Joh 1:9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
Joh 1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
Joh 1:11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
Joh 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
Joh 1:13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
Joh 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
Joh 1:15 John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.
Joh 1:16 And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.
Joh 1:17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
Joh 1:18 [/b] No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. [/b]
Psa 2:7 I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
Psa 2:8 Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.
Psa 2:9 Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.
Psa 2:10 Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth.
Psa 2:11 Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling.
Psa 2:12 Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.
Joh 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.
Joh 5:20 For the Father loveth the Son, and sheweth him all things that himself doeth: and he will shew him greater works than these, that ye may marvel.
Joh 5:21 For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them; even so the Son quickeneth whom he will.
Joh 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:
Joh 5:23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.
Joh 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
Joh 5:25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.
Joh 5:26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;
Joh 5:27 And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.
1Ti 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
Incidently. THe ISR aka Scriptures you use have changed the word of God many times. You can read about that here:
I would also like to point out that english and other language readers, do not know what יהוה means and any other Hebrew or Greek for that matter. The New testament was written in Greek, not Hebrew. Paul wrote:
1Co 14:19 Yet in the church I had rather speak five words with my understanding, that by my voice I might teach others also, than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue.
1Co 14:20 Brethren, be not children in understanding: howbeit in malice be ye children, but in understanding be men. [/b]
You can learn about the Hebrew Matthew and so on here: http://www.seekgod.ca/topichr.htm#faqs
> http://www.seekgod.ca/hr/hrfaqs9.htm#heb
> http://www.seekgod.ca/hr/hrfaqs9a.htm#shem
3John 1:4 I have no greater joy than to hear that my children walk in truth.
Isaiah 40:31 But they that wait upon the LORD shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint.
(10-18-2011, 05:39 PM)Vic Wrote: Is this Hebrew Roots attempt to explain the Godhead?
No. I am not affiliated with any group called "Hebrew Roots" or any other group for that matter. I am an individual with my own beliefs and speak for only myself. The same everybody.
My post was attempting to use a simple analogy to explain something very complicated. I don't want you to think the Elohim is a literal tree or branch.
Elohim is one not three. (Mark 12:29)
Father son and Set-apart Spirit are Elohim
Father son and Set-apart Spirit are One
The Catholic trinity theory(3 separate) does not line up with scripture. How can there be a trinity if Elohim is One? (Mark 12:29) Therefore the Trinity theory is discredited
Emjesown explains it well here:
(01-12-2009, 08:52 AM)Emjesown Wrote: One, not 3.
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Hello everyone,
I know that this is an old thread, but I thought topic-wise it was the best match for my post. It's a bit long but hopefully relevant, so please feel free to get comfy...
Let me start by stating that I believe the scriptures reveal Jesus Christ to be God manifest in the flesh, the Son of God, the Son of man - fully God and fully man. The Holy Spirit is God, The Father is God, and these three are one. God is one, and there was no God before Him, and there shall be no God after him. I will refer to this as Trinitarian theology for the sake of simplicity. If you need scriptures please let me know, but Vicky and others have done a great job providing references in earlier posts.
Today I came across a ministry online that promotes another version of the Godhead. I'm not sure how to define it, so I thought I'd ask here (and it would be a good way to start posting again, as I've neglected to do so for quite some time). I can't post links to other sites yet, but I will include excerpts and the info so that people can check it out for themselves and verify the statements.
This ministry is called "God's Word First - International Biblical Research & Teaching Ministry" based in Vista, CA. It appears to be led by "ordained minister" and "founder, President and Senior Pastor" Daniel Sweet and his wife Debbra Sweet, who also owns her own website promoting herself as "Author, Speaker, Musician, Marketing Consultant, Business & Certified Health Coach, Sales Trainer & Action Leadership Development Specialist". IMO her strong influence of business, marketing and sales is evident in their shared ministry, which sells a variety of CDs that are mostly about how to: receive healing, learn to speak in tongues, experience miracles, prophesy and have the power of Pentecost. They use a monthly "free special" giveaway to collect email data, and encourage tithes and donations.
While the site makes materials on the gifts of the Spirit readily available, one has to "dig" to find any mention of the gospel or the cross. The new covenant in Christ's blood is mainly mentioned in reference to the promises of Pentecost, rather than those of eternal life. This diminishing and eclipsing of the cross of Christ is never a good thing, IMO.
I also noticed that the logo for their site is a depiction of Borromean rings in black and white. According to one site, Borromean rings are an occult symbol used in "sacred geometry" and date back to second century Buddhist art. They were made famous by an Italian Borromi family, but they are also sometimes used to represent the trinity. The interlocking circles form another occult symbol, the trefoil. Black and white also represents dualism, yin/yang. Finally, his video "How to Speak in Tongues - New Bible Study CD by Daniel Sweet" features a slide with a plethora of occult symbols, including the Christianized "dive-bombing" dove that Vicky shows to be an occult symbol in her article "Hexagrams & Doves": http://www.seekgod.ca/stardoves.htm
Sorry if this seemed off-topic, but I wanted to give some background info on this ministry before I presented their beliefs on the Godhead.
In his article, "The Trinity Explained: Revealing the True Relationship between God, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit", Sweet shuns both Modalism and Trinitarianism, stating that they are not supported by the scriptures. He provides an explanation via analogy, saying that God the Father is like the sun, and Jesus is like the light emitted from the Father. He then elaborates:
Quote:Is the light that comes from the sun part of the sun? It depends on how you define the sun. The object in space is like God the Father. The light that comes from that object may be considered part of that object. For even those who don't accept that the light that comes from the sun is part of the sun, will nonetheless look up in the sky and say, "There's the sun.", referring to the light that comes from the sun as if it were the sun. Perhaps this is what Jesus meant in John 14:9 when Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'?"
The Holy Spirit is then described as the "heat that comes from the sun". He then gives an analogy similar to EMJE's of the "Soul, Body and Spirit" of man to the Father, Son and Spirit of God, with the Borromean rings next to these words. To quote him:
Quote:As we have three parts - Soul, Body and Spirit - and yet we are one, so also God's administration has three parts - the Father (Himself), His Son and the Holy Spirit - and yet all act as one forming a perfect governing body. These are each distinct from each other, and yet collectively we can speak of these as being what they are.
Yet in the same article, even though he has just written about three being one, he then contradicts this (and 1 John 5:7-8) by stating the following:
Quote:Take note that the only number ascribed to God in the Holy Bible is One and that there is no inherent threeness ascribed to God explicitly in scripture. The number three is never mentioned in relation to God in scripture, which of course is the number that is central to the word "Trinity".
He then goes on to deny the divinity of Jesus:
Quote:Let's not confuse what is being said here. It does not say "In the beginning Jesus was the Word, Jesus was with God and Jesus was God". No! It says what it means and it means what is says.
Quote:"And the Word was with God". You cannot logically be with someone and also be that person at the same time. To be with someone means that the person you are with is someone other than yourself. Before his birth the man Jesus Christ existed in the foreknowledge of God, not in any other physical or spiritual form. What did exist was the Word. The whole Bible is very clear on this point.
After reading the whole article, it was very clear to me that Sweet denies Jesus Christ is the Word of God, though John made it clear he was writting about Jesus when he spoke of the Word - who else did he mean when he wrote the following:
Quote:"That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life; (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;) That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ." ~ 1 John 1:1-3 ~
Sweet continues:
Quote:Then in verse 14 "The Word was made (became) flesh and dwelt among us". Meaning, Jesus was born. This is the point in time when a separate individual, a person known as Jesus, came into existence. God caused to come into being a human representative who could make the free will choice to live a perfect life and accomplish the great works that God had in store.
Sweet's words contradict the word of Jesus Christ, who made it known that He existed before His incarnation as the second Adam:
Quote:"And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was." ~ John 17:5 ~
In Sweet's theology, if Jesus Christ is God, then He has an "excuse" for living a perfect life, and since we are not God, we can't hope to follow in Christ's footsteps. Sweet finds it more inspiring to believe that Jesus was simply a man who was able to fulfill the law and live perfectly by "his" own will, and not by virtue of any innately divine qualities. Let me reiterate here his wife's background as a motivational speaker and marketer - inspiration is very important when seeking to motivate an audience or target market. Perhaps the "just-your-average-guy" Jesus sells better than the one of scriptures.
For someone who talks abundantly about the Holy Spirit, Sweet does not seem to comprehend the sanctification process of the Spirit, and how He empowers us to live godly and righteously when we walk after the Spirit. The indwelling Spirit of Christ was not made available to believers before Jesus shed His blood for the forgiveness of sins, and He is still not available to those that deny Christ today. Once we turn to God in repentance of our sins and believe on Jesus His Son, we are regenerate in His Spirit, a new creature - Jesus Christ said "Behold, I make all things new." We are no longer dead in our sins, but set free from the bondage of unrighteousness. It is a new creature that makes the journey towards perfection, not the 'old man' that must be put away.
Sweet's second argument against Christ's divinity goes as follows:
Quote:Jesus was to be the legal sacrifice for our sins. In order to fulfill Mosaic Law, the sacrifice must be a firstling of the flock. (Deut 15:19) God the Father is not of the flock. He is the Father. So, if Jesus was really God incarnate, then He was not of the flock. If that be so, then the law was not fulfilled and we are not saved. Yikes! Lucky for us God the Father got it right. Jesus, who is a separate individual, was born of the flock, was a firstling without blemish and fulfilled the law as our legal propitiation.
This appears to be a false dichotomy and 'straw man' - Trinitarian theology to my knowledge does not argue that Jesus is God the Father. It argues that Jesus is God - fully God and fully man. And being fully man, He was fully qualified to be our sacrificial Lamb while still being God in the flesh. Trinitarianism (triunity) presents the mystery of composite unity in the Godhead.
Sweet ends by saying that Jesus is only called by the ascription 'God' but is not divine in nature, and that Jesus Himself clearly implies this by praying to God the Father as a separate individual.
In another article called " "I Am" Statements of Jesus in the Gospel of John 8:58 Explained", Sweet creates confusion by saying that the Greek words for "I Am" in the NT have a different meaning from the "I Am" of the OT, which Jesus is clearly referring to:
Quote:In order for the Trinitarian view that Jesus' "I am" statement in John 8:58 makes him God, his statement must be equivalent with God's "I am" statement in Exodus 3:14. However, the two statements are very different. While the Greek phrase in John does mean "I am," the Hebrew phrase in Exodus actually means "to be" or "to become."
Sweet is playing word games here. Is he trying to fool little children? Because I learned in school that "I am" is present tense for the verb "to be".
Quote:In other words God is saying, "I will be what I will be." Or "I will become whatever God you need me to be" in reference to the pantheon of gods worshipped by neighboring pagans. The pagans had a different god for everything: A god of the harvest, god of the sun, god of the moon, god of the wind, god of the flies, etc.
I have no idea why Sweet thinks God was telling Moses that He would accommodate man's image of God, and become like the pagan gods ??? How this supports his argument, I don't know...
He ends with the following:
Quote:Jesus said in John 8:58 "I am" the Messiah Abraham Spoke of...
This just doesn't make any sense at all. Sweet is confusing verse 56, where Jesus talks about Abraham 'seeing His day', with verse 58, where Jesus is talking about BEFORE Abraham was. How can we interpret "Before Abraham was, I am" to mean "I am the Messiah Abraham spoke of"? Abraham wasn't saying a thing before his own existence! Sweet is causing confusion by wresting the scriptures to his own destruction. He is also adding to the word of God by saying that Jesus existed in God's foreknowledge only before His incarnation.
My question is this: Sweet's teachings are obviously not orthodox, because he shuns Trinitarianism, so what brand of heresy is he endorsing?. It's not Modalism, which he shuns. Though his ministry is very charismatic, it's not Oneness Pentecostalism, because they believe that Jesus is God. Is it Arianism? Or is it something else altogether?
Quote:"And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached to the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory." ~ 1 Timothy 3:16, AKJ ~
Thanks for reading this lengthy post!
Quick note on my last post above - the trefoil is also known as the triskele, which Vicky talks about here: http://www.seekgod.ca/warning.htm
Hi Angie, Nice to see you back. Thanks for posting this. Am working on a response but wanted to say hi.
3John 1:4 I have no greater joy than to hear that my children walk in truth.
Isaiah 40:31 But they that wait upon the LORD shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint.
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since you guys are looking for a plauseable answer i will give you one. Lets say madara did infact summon the 9 tails.
And lets also assume minato was the strongest person in konoha at the time the person madara would have the most to fear from. Attacking at the time of his sons birth would be a big advantage on his part.
However i do not believe personally anything special about it. Its just the beginning of a story to me, you never question the beginning of a story because everything that happens after that beginning is based upon it.
The only reason Madara would have wanted Naruto dead is if he knew about the prophecy(coincidence); but he doesn't have a contract with the toads so...???
He may have needed the kyuubi to distract the villagers and the hokage...and this all goes back to the retired discussion...
The only thing that comes to a sleeping man is dreams.
"Reality is wrong, dreams are for real"
You guys are thinking too in-the-box, how about when Naruto fights Madara, they end-up fighting across space and time. Madara breaks from Naruto and summmons the 9-tails to kill Naruto, but the 4th steps in and the Naruto that got sent back in time is still looking for Madara to this day!?
if madara summoning kyubbi theory doesnt work, lets look at the uchiha clans summoning kyubbi. they summoned it but realized that they need a magenkyou to control it, so they were trying again with itachi.
A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.
yeah i know. the first time when kyuubi was summoned, saskue was a baby too. but that could have been an attempt to summon kyuubi by the uchihas. then they realized they need someone with the magenkyou to control it.
so they made shisisui, itachis best friend try to kill him. itachi won and he was supposed to sneak into naruto's room at night and release the kybbi. but he killed all the uchihas instead.
A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.
i dont think madara had any intention of killing naruto i simply said it was an opportune time to attack the HOKAGE which was minato.
Since madara's intention was to destroy Konoha the logical course of action would be to kill the hokage first. So when you are fighting a hokage you want every advantage possible, like when ori killed the hokage he had a barrier setup summoned the previous hokages organized an attack from the sand village he was not taking any chances he wanted to be sure he would win and he still lost.
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Campfire (Medurat Hashevet)
A woman seeking to embrace both her faith and her culture finds that neither is as simple as she imagined in this drama from Israel. It's 1981, and Rachel (Michaela Eshet) has become a single mother of two teenage girls after the unexpected death of her husband. Looking for a new identity as she starts her life again, Rachael decides to pull up roots and leave Jerusalem for a new settlement on the West Bank. Rachel's daughters have become acclimated to city life and are unenthusiastic about their mother's decision, but that doesn't change her mind. However, Rachel's neighbors soon make their own feelings felt; they obviously aren't happy with the prospect of a single mother living in their community, and she soon finds herself subjected with any number of matchmaking opportunities from fiftysomething men. More seriously, daughters Esti (Maya Maron) and Tami (Hani Furstenberg) don't feel safe or accepted in their new environment, especially Tami, who has a traumatic experience while on a camping trip with a Zionist youth organization. Campfire was the winner five Israeli Academy Awards in 2005, including Best Picture.~ Mark Deming, All Movie Guide
Cast: Hani Furstenberg, Assi Dayan, Maya Maron, Moshe Ivgy, Michaela Eshet
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Skip to comments.Secret Obamacare handbook the feds dont want you to see is online
Posted on 12/15/2013 12:29:38 AM PST by Libloather
A confidential training manual for Obamacare navigators that threatens prosecution for unauthorized dissemination is on the Internet for the world to see.
The 217-page manual reads like a primer for Amway or novice car salesmen, offering sales advice on how to disarm potential customers who could be lured into purchasing insurance through exchanges created under the Affordable Care Act.
Section headers include Smile: Maintain a Positive Demeanor, Make the Customers Feel Welcome, Listen and in what must now seem ironic given Barack Obamas troubles with over-promising Build Trust: Be True to Your Word.
(Excerpt) Read more at watchdog.org ...
It's amateur hour in the USA
Build Trust: Be True to Your Word.
I guess Obama failed to read it?
They must have hired him as a trainer......../snicker
Lock up portable devices (e.g., laptops, cell phones) or use an unauthorized mobile device to access PII or tax return information.
Anthony Robbins, unlike Barack Obama, is a self-made success who once lived in a cheap studio apartment and now has mansions and a vacation home in Tahiti. He didn't receive any affirmative action that I'm aware of and has helped, not negatively impacted, thousands of people.
Guilty! Yes, I know he's a dude, but, just . . . D@mn!
Great find!
Direct link to the manual:
Note — it says "limited distribution" — i.e. they don't want us to know about it.
I went to the homepage of the website, where the manual is located:
More info about Obamacare — a lot of it is interesting.
TIGTA report warns of tax credit fraud and security
HHS releases progress and performance report for HealthCare.gov
CMS allows flat files to be used as enrollment applications for Medicaid — "In a letter sent to State Medicaid Directors, the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) stated the agemcy would allow states to use flat files, or files with very little information about new Medicaid enrollees, to intermittently count as full applications in terms of enrolling individuals into state Medicaid programs under the Affordable Care Act (ACA)."
and definitely check out the home page: Healthreform GPS.org
Does anyone one see income verification in this document? Will they match the applications with the W2? I thought that for 2013 they were enrolling applicants on the "honor" system. The language the book uses is income estimation. The lack of verification could be the reason the Medicaid enrollment numbers are higher than expected. Once enrolled in Medicaid, are participants ever asked to verify income in subsequent years or is it a lifetime benefit?
Don't read the funny pages, just read this section from the manual.
2.2.4 Build TrustBe True to Your Word
Be candid, open, and honest in your responses to consumers. Treat consumers in ways that you
think they would want to be treated.
Be open with mistakes. Be aware of your responsibility in any situation or outcome. Apologizing when things go wrong demonstrates that you care about consumers and their experiences.
Only offer consumers something that you are sure you can give them. Dont promise timelines you are not sure you can fulfill. Stick to deadlines, make sure you turn up promptly for any appointments and never make promises you cannot keep. If situations change, let consumers know as soon as possible.
> threatens prosecution for unauthorized dissemination
Thanks Libloather.
The feds are just relieved we did not get the secret ObamaCare handshake too.
so thats what that "interpreter" was doing,...at mandelas funeral
the Obama Handshake and the official Obama Gang Handsigns
Democrats think 'truth' and 'being true to your word' are for the little people. Really.
Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!
To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you must threaten to report me to the Mods if I don't add you to the list...
Is there a picture of Obama shaking someones hand? Then on the other side you could put the sign language guy doing some crazy stuff. This could be the "secret handshake"
People can balance more than two ideas at a time... it's not a 'distraction' it's one more dot to connect...
THAT was a good ping.
Thanks for the post; ping.
"The Federal Register document says assistance workers will be paid $20 per
hour, project leaders will be paid $29 per hour and executives will make about $48 per hour."
"Obamacare 'Navigators' Will Get $58 For Every Individual They Sign Up"
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.
For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent: [a pre-meditated lie, supported and presented in lock-step by a party, sanctioned by the USSC]
For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
The list, Ping
Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list
Thank you!
Did you mean:
The feds are just relieved we did not get the secret ObamaCare
handshake glandshake too.
ugh... gross...
ah such helpful instructions
I....worry...about you.
Do you have the hots for this guy or Are you trying to get a response? If I recall a few weeks ago, someone tried the same thing, only he was fishing for anti gay slurs.
Anyway, I'm a woman and am not impressed with the guy at all. There are much better looking men out there. But, I suppose all of us have our own preferences.
We give him too much credit, and ignore what we know about him.
He's a punk ass ID THIEF.
What do you thinks gonna happen when he has joint access to your bank account?
How long till the banks Fail/Demand an ID chip?
Obamacare, as a tax, was levied without our consent. And while repeal of the Bush tax cuts was several percentage points as an income tax, Obamacare health insurance is up to 10% of your income.
Community organization, the only training Obama had to become president.
YOU are SO correct, tbw2 and it's worth repeating millions of times. It should be drummed into every citizen's head.
Obamacare, as a tax, was levied without our consent.
A pre-meditated lie, perpetuated in lock-step by a party, sanctified by a "supreme" court.
FUJR & FUSupremeCourt
Obamacare, as a tax, was levied without our consent.
How TOTALITARIANISM starts.
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.
For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent: [a pre-meditated lie, supported and presented in lock-step by a party, sanctioned by the USSC]
For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
"They must have hired him as a trainer......../snicker"
It was established with our consent because our representatives in Congress voted for the bill, making it law.
It hasn't been "levied" yet, but that day is fast approaching.
A pre-meditated lie, (yep) perpetuated in lock-step by a party, (yep) sanctified by a "supreme" court.
Sanctified? Roberts merely brought it out in court that the law was designed as a tax from inception. The government even presented the argument that it was a tax to ensure the law was upheld. Roberts had to uphold it under that stipulation. Government is given the power of taxation.
It's now up to THE PEOPLE to demand the law be repealed.
Sorry I had to be so critical.
Merry Christmas, philman_36. Thanks for your input. It's always good to see you on FR. What would the reasons be to demand for the repeal of the law?
Sometimes the law defends plunder and participates in it. Thus the beneficiaries are spared the shame, danger, and scruple which their acts would otherwise involve. Sometimes the law places the whole apparatus of judges, police, prisons, and gendarmes at the service of the plunderers, and treats the victim when he defends himself as a criminal. Bastiat - "The Law"
Merry Christmas to you too.
My reason is that it's an onerous tax. Simple, but my reason nonetheless.
House Repeals Onerous Tax Provision in Bipartisan Manner
Today the House of Representatives, in a bipartisan manner, voted to repeal a three percent withholding tax that would have been yet another burden on our economy. Washington must not increase the financial and administrative costs job creators face particularly when so many challenges to growth and entrepreneurial success already exist.
Only if the bill to tax originated in the House or Representatives, so no, Government does not have the power to tax just because the Executive and Judicial branches along with the Senate want it. It can only do so if the bill of revenue originates from the House of Representatives.
Additionally, the law was not passed. It was "deemed".
BS! It was passed!
Only if the bill to tax originated in the House or Representatives...
It was originated in the House! H.R. means a House bill. See H.R.4872 Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act of 2010 (key...Related Bills: H.RES.1203, H.RES.1225, H.R.3590 Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act)
to repeal the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (HR 3590) and health care-related provisions in the Health Care Education and Reconciliation Act of 2010 (HR 4782)
The Senate hijacked the existing HOUSE bill to pass the albatross we have today.
Thanks. Simple. It works for me.
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The weather has been gorgeous this week and we took advantage of the sunny skies and warm, dry temperatures to hike some of the woodland trails at the North Carolina Arboretum. It's been just cool enough to make a hike perfectly pleasant.
The Arboretum is celebrating 25 years of serving as a resource for natural beauty and connection with the outdoors in western North Carolina. The dream of an arboretum here in Asheville started with Frederick Law Olmsted in the late 1800s. He had intended to establish an arboretum on the grounds of the Biltmore Estate, his last major landscaping project. For many years we were lucky enough to enjoy the Arnold Arboretum in Boston that Olmsted designed in 1872, so when the Arboretum was established here in the 1980s, inspired by Olmsted's work, we made sure to make a visit there a part of every family visit we made to Asheville.
Usually those trips would involve exploring the beautiful gardens and exhibits. Now that we live here we're getting to explore even more of the trails and gardens than ever! Walking along the well marked and intelligently designed trails it is easy to let go of the noise and stress of everyday life and just let the quiet and the beauty of nature envelope you.
Bent Creek flows gently through the trees and the shaded paths take you through a mix of hardwood, pines, ferns and wildflowers. The trails go from pedestrian only paths to naturally surfaced roads that allow bicycle traffic.
The mission of The North Carolina Arboretum includes promoting the stewardship and enjoyment of the wealth of plant life within the Southern Appalachians through their world-renowned gardens as well as demonstrating cultivated and natural landscapes. It provides an easy mix of trails and gardens, well marked with educational information. Several gardens provide inspiration as well as enjoyment. We're so lucky to have this resource available and a beautiful late August day to enjoy it!
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