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Young guns
Robin Brownlee
December 16 2008 02:30PM
The Chicago Blackhawks are living proof that there is upside to long-term ineptitude and utter failure that doesn't exist with sporadic garden variety mediocrity.
One look at the roster Chicago will dress against the Edmonton Oilers at Rexall Place Tuesday tells you that much. Is there another team in the NHL with more young talent -- players 25-and-under -- than the Blackhawks? I think not, although that's just off the top of my head.
Out of the playoffs, often hopelessly so, for nine of the previous 10 seasons, Chicago has rebuilt through the Entry Draft from 2002-07 better than any other team I can think of.
In six drafts, the Blackhawks have added no less than seven players who are on the roster and contributing to a resurgence in the Windy City.
Finish low
While the Oilers made the playoffs in six of the previous 10 seasons, and just missed in three of the other four years, the Blackhawks were dismal enough that they amassed three, top-five picks from 2002-07.
The Oilers, meanwhile, had none -- Edmonton's highest pick in that stretch came in 2007, when they plucked Sam Gagner sixth overall.
After years as an embarrassment to Original Six franchises and of playing in a half-empty United Center, the Blackhawks have drafted high and drafted well. Here's a look at the youngsters who'll be in Chicago silks Tuesday.
Pick high
2007: PATRICK KANE. Taken first overall, Kane, 20, leads the Blackhawks in scoring with 13-21-34. He tallied 21-51-72 as a rookie. The Oilers selected Gagner, a teammate of Kane's in London, sixth, Alex Plante 15th and Riley Nash 21st with a trifecta of first-round picks.
2006: JONATHAN TOEWS. Selected third overall, Toews, 20, scored 24-30-54 as a rookie. He has 8-15-23 this season. The Oilers didn't have a first-round pick, although they have blueliners Jeff Petry (45th) and Theo Peckham (75th) in the system.
2005: JACK SKILLE: This promising forward from the U.S. National Under-18 team is the only Chicago first-rounder from 2002-07 yet to make a real impact. He's got six NHL games on his resume and is in Rockford of the AHL. A big edge to the Oilers so far, with Andrew Cogliano in The Show and Taylor Chorney on the way.
2004: CAM BARKER and DAVE BOLLAND. Chicago took Barker, a 22-year-old defenceman from Medicine Hat, with the third overall pick. He's already played parts of four seasons. Bolland, 22, was taken 32nd overall. He's scored 5-12-17 in 28 games this season. The Oilers just sent Rob Schremp (25th) back to Springfield and fellow first-rounder Devan Dubnyk (14th) is in the system. Liam Reddox (112th) is on the roster.
2003: BRENT SEABROOK AND DUSTIN BYFUGLIEN. The 23-year-old Seabrook, selected 14th from Lethbridge of the WHL, already has 240 games on his NHL resume and is in his fourth season. Seabrook was a no-brainer at the draft.
Byfuglien, 23, meanwhile, is the longest of shots and is paying off. Selected 245th overall, the massive swingman scored 19 goals last season and has 126 NHL games in the books. The Oilers took Marc Pouliot 22nd overall and got Zack Stortini 94th.
2002: DUNCAN KEITH. After taking Anton Babchuk 21st, Keith was a steal at 54th overall. Keith has scored 2-12-14 so far in his fourth NHL campaign after back-to-back seasons of 31 and 32 points. The Blackhawks also got James Wisniewski with the 156th pick.
Jesse Niinimaki was Edmonton's biggest first-round bust in recent years, but they also got Jeff Deslauriers along with Jarret Stoll and Matt Greene, who they've turned into Lubomir Visnovsky via trade.
(@ Ender the Dragon:
FINE. Here is a what if:(By the way I find "What If's" colored by hindsight stupid and counterproductive)
In 2004. Don't draft Dubnyk 14th. Take Wolski. He is a big man who can score (104 points in 162 NHL games) Then use your 25th pick to grap Cory Schneider (A better goalie prospect than Dubnyk anyway)
No Schremp....Wolski. By the way; I like Colorado scouting.
December 16 2008, 01:08PM
@ Chris: Beautiful. Your point is made, and you're right; those would have been better picks. Had the Oilers done that, we might look better today. I'll leave further comments to others.
December 16 2008, 01:12PM
Chris wrote:
I do, however believe that better scouting staffs exist in this league and maybe Katz should offer up a boat load of cash to steal personnel away from organizations like Buffalo, or Detroit.
He doesn't even need to steal Buffalo's scouts; a ton of them got laid off in favour of video/statistical work. Right now, Buffalo is the team to watch, because if they succeed, there's probably going to be something resembling a paradigm shift in how NHL teams scout players.
Willis...you also should have nailed me with Detroit having success drafting smaller players...
December 16 2008, 01:22PM
Chris wrote:
By the way; I like Colorado scouting.
Colorado isn't bad by any stretch. Since 2001, the Avalanche have drafted five players who are arguably impact guys at the NHL level: Stastny, Wolski, Gilbert, Svatos and Budaj
In the same time frame, the Oilers have managed a very comparable group of six: Gagner, Cogliano, Stoll, Greene, Markkanen and Hemsky.
Outside of impact players, the Oilers have drafted 15 players with NHL games played (so far): Peckham, Syvret, Schremp, Reddox, Young, Pouliot, Jacques, Stortini, Brodziak, Roy, Luoma, Lynch, Haakana, Pisa and Stephenson.
The Avalanche have 11: Hensick, Kumiskey, Liffiton, Richardson, Jones, Johansson, Boychuk, Weiman, Bois, McCormick, Stephens.
Honestly, Chris, how big is the difference between these two franchises?
pssst, don't feed the trolls.
December 16 2008, 01:26PM
Chris wrote:
Willis…you also should have nailed me with Detroit having success drafting smaller players…
I get tired of singing Detroit's praises - to my mind they're the best run team in the NHL, and it isn't even close.
Still, that franchise would look much, much different if they hadn't gotten lucky on Zetterberg/Datsyuk. There's an (unsubstantiated) rumour floating around that one of the Oilers' Euro scouts wanted Zetterberg as early as the third round in 1999 and was ignored; if it's true, it would go a long ways toward explaining the team's recent willingness to draft unheralded Euros (prime example: Linus Omark) in the late stages of the draft.
December 16 2008, 01:27PM
freeze wrote:
pssst, don't feed the trolls.
Everyone needs to eat. Besides, Chris isn't bad, we just emphatically disagree on the Oilers' draft record.
And he's wrong ;)
Jonathan Willis wrote:
Outside of impact players, the Oilers have drafted 15 players with NHL games played (so far): Peckham, Syvret, Schremp, Reddox, Young, Pouliot, Jacques, Stortini, Brodziak, Roy, Luoma, Lynch, Haakana, Pisa and Stephenson
Many of this group played due to injury/ poor overall lineup.
In 2005 Colorado drafted Stastney after we had already picked Chorney. (Props to them)...
Hey what do I know... I like a big team... I would have probably picked Mihalik ahead of Cogliano...
Jonathan Willis wrote:
freeze wrote: pssst, don't feed the trolls. Everyone needs to eat. Besides, Chris isn't bad, we just emphatically disagree on the Oilers' draft record. And he's wrong
fair enough. I think it would be a good idea to revisit your posts on the Oilers draft record from awhile back for those who didn't read it. http://www.oilersnation.com/2008/09/oil-draft-record-2001/
Didn't a scout from Detroit have a line about what they considered to be a successful draft? 1 or two NHL players per draft?
Jonathon: No doubt the Oilers have gotten better since 2001 and Monsieur Hemsky. (BTW, in the previous 6 years, the Oil drafted Horcoff, Comrie, Pisani, Poti, Chimera, and LeGG-- a decent roster player a year, which isn't terrible either.)
I think the perception of failure comes from the stink surrounding such high profile failures as Mikhnov, Rita, Reisen, Kelly, etc. Stink like that doesn't come off easy-- even if you replace the people responsible for the stink.
However, it doesn't help that the Oilers haven't had a real steal-of-a-pick post 2001 like Stastny-- an absolute superstar taken with the 44th pick!
And, we must remember, when comparing the Oil from 2001 and the Avs, the Avs never picked below 18th (18 and 21 were the lowest.) The Oil, on the other hand, didn't pick that low either -which causes confusion, I think- but did blow a 14th and 15th overall pick on Niiiinnniiiimmmaaaaakkiisgfjh (SP?) and Dubnyk.
Though I do agree with the core of what you're saying Jonathon.
There will ALWAYS be players that we missed. We only have 3% of the scouting staff in the NHL. The other 97% are bound to find something our scouts miss (like Zetterberg and Parise).
If you hold the team to unreachable standards you will always be dissappointed. Does anyone ever mention how dissappointed Nashville must be that they picked Hamhuis (who?) instead of Hemsky? Every team misses players... even fabled Detroit gets it wrong.
There is a fair amount of luck involved int eh process too, although if you are picking in the top five you should really end up with a player regardless of the draft depth.
Draft success is more than a measure of the quantity on NHLers you draft...how about quality? I like the quality furnished by Colorado scouting.
I lost faith in Prendergast in 2007. Gagner was a no brainer. Jury is still out on Plante (we have trouble drafting size). Nash has me shaking my head. We traded up in the draft for a JrB player? Has anyone ever picked a JrB player in the first round before?
I have to believe they were targeting Esposito and got screwed by Pittsburg. I have to believe that...or they should all be fired. I'm sure Nash would have been available in the second round...
It's like having a buddy who picks his favorite player too early in the hockey pool for fear of missing out.
RLH wrote:
Second, it's a buyer's market. We all saw the recent analysis of cap situations. While I would hesitate to say that salaries are the reason for the lack of movement, I feel confident in saying that the lack of deals indicates that terms can't be agreed upon. Do the two go hand-in-hand? Are we in a situation where teams in trouble simply can't make deals for blockbusters?
ESCROW ON THE RISE Speaking of the salary cap and related issues that might have something to do with the distinct lack of trades so far this season, I was given an interesting tip on the escrow situation this morning by somebody who would know. A player I spoke with told me that the NHLPA has issued a "heads-up" to its membership that it's very likely the percentage of player salaries put into escrow -- it's about 13 per cent right now -- will be going up before the end of this season. In the previous three seasons under the new CBA, some or all of the monies put in escrow have been returned to the players. As of right now, it looks like revenues will be down enough that member teams won't only need all the money being put into escrow now, but a larger percentage to cover shortfalls. Don't be surprised to hear more about this in coming days/weeks.
December 16 2008, 02:24PM
Chris wrote:
Nash has me shaking my head. We traded up in the draft for a JrB player? Has anyone ever picked a JrB player in the first round before? I have to believe they were targeting Esposito and got screwed by Pittsburg. I have to believe that…or they should all be fired. I'm sure Nash would have been available in the second round…
I think exactly the opposite - if Esposito was the target, the scouting staff was mistaken. Nash is developing very nicely (and well ahead of the curve).
As for Esposito, take a quick look at his points per game, by year:
2005-06: 1.72 PTS/GM (great number, especially for a 17-year old)
2006-07: 1.32 PTS/GM (OK, but not great - a huge decline in his draft year)
2007-08: 1.23 PTS/GM (how many players get worse as they get older?)
2008-09 (so far): 1.29 PTS/GM
In other words, Esposito hasn't matched his draft year offensively since, and that draft year was a massive disappointment compared to his 17-year old season.
There's a reason that a guy pegged as a possibility as 1st overall falls to 20th. And, if you're wondering, it's the same reason that John Tavares is in a free-fall plunge.
December 16 2008, 02:24PM
@ RobinB:
Thanks, Robin. Very interesting indeed.
@ Jonathan Willis: FYI: Mark Spector -- he was with me when we talked to the player this morning -- has a brief item on the Sportsnet website now as well.
@ Jonathan Willis: a) Scouting mediocre...not awful. b) Stu MacGregor is head scout. Barry Fraser left with Sather. Predergast was repaced by Stu when he moved up to V.P. Hockey Operations after the departure of Scott Howson. c)Robin Kovar was the ineligible player (I had to look that up) What I did know however, is that 2002 was the year we picked Niinimaki...surprising the hockey world. d)Bill Dandy scouts QMJHL. Bob Brown scouts the WHL. Kent Nilsson and Frank Musil scout in Europe. I'm sure Pete Peeters is a goalie scout and Semenko rides the wave of Oilers nepotism. I'm sure there are more (I think 13 or so)
Willis. I know you know all this. (And More) Why do I have to type all this crap out? Is this the only way my opinion about very average scouting is considered valid?
Everyone who thinks Omark will never have an impact in the NHL and Oilers scouting has gone soft...please feel free to participate.
@ Jonathan Willis: a) Scouting mediocre...not awful. b) Stu MacGregor is head scout. Barry Fraser left with Sather. Predergast was repaced by Stu when he moved up to V.P. Hockey Operations after the departure of Scott Howson. c)Robin Kovar was the ineligible player (I had to look that up) What I did know however, is that 2002 was the year we picked Niinimaki...surprising the hockey world. d)Bill Dandy scouts QMJHL. Bob Brown scouts the WHL. Kent Nilsson and Frank Musil scout in Europe. I'm sure Pete Peeters is a goalie scout and Semenko rides the wave of Oilers nepotism. I'm sure there are more (I think 13 or so)
Willis. I know you know all this. (And More) Why do I have to type all this crap out? Is this the only way my opinion about very average scouting is considered valid?
Everyone who thinks Omark will never have an impact in the NHL and Oilers scouting has gone soft...please feel free to participate.
P.S. Nash may work out better than esposito in the long run... but they didn't need to use a first round pick to get him.
December 16 2008, 03:18PM
@ Chris:
No, that's not the only way for your opinion to be valid. I just generally think that most folks who complain about scouts are basically Howard Berger.
I may have overstated my point (as Kris thinks) and that's fair comment. But I've looked at the Oilers scouting, and what it's produced, and similar scouting by the majority of other NHL teams. I've read everything about scouting I could get my hands on - and it all tells me that the Oilers may not be great, but they certainly have an above-average scouting crew. I really don't see how an objective observer could come up with anythng else.
Also, on your answers :)
- Fraser was still chief scout at the 2000 draft, the first of Kevin Lowe's tenure, as Lowe was made GM in June. - Semenko is a pro scout - he scouts other NHL teams for the most part
December 16 2008, 03:18PM
Chris wrote:
P.S. Nash may work out better than esposito in the long run… but they didn't need to use a first round pick to get him.
The story I heard was that Calgary was going to take Nash at 24th - I don't know if that's accurate (Robin might) but he could easily have been gone by the 2nd round.
December 16 2008, 03:23PM
RobinB wrote:
@ Jonathan Willis: FYI: Mark Spector — he was with me when we talked to the player this morning — has a brief item on the Sportsnet website now as well.
Here's the link that Robin's referring to.
It's interesting stuff. I've heard it suggested elsewhere that escrow may increase next year, but I think today is the first concrete report I've seen.
The first thing that occurs to me is that a bunch of struggling NHL teams will probably get a boost from this, but of course that's only one consequence and there will be a bunch of other things happening too.
What do you think the big ramifications will be, Robin?
What I'm trying to say (other than an observation that we are drafting smaller than we used to)...It's okay to demand the best. To win a cup the on-ice roster has to be able to mix it up with the likes of Detroit and San Jose. I want the Oilers to win a cup! As for scouting...if our scouting staff isn't the abosolute best in the league then changes need to be made moving forward. It will take hands down the best scouting possible to furnish the Oilers with a cup winning team. (Look at our track record attracting UFA's)
With Katz at the helm it is time for the Nation to stand up and demand the best!
Here's a fun way to see how well the Oil have drafted: Suppose the Oilers could only play the active players they drafted. It would be an okay team:
At forward:
Smyth, Horcoff, Hemsky Gagner, Cogliano, Mike Comrie, Chimera, Stoll, Pisani, Reddox, Schremp, Stortini,
At D: 3 Matt Greene, 4 Poti, 5 Peckham, 6 Semenov,
G: Deslauriers, Markannen
That's a great forward core, with crappy D and and scary goalies.
However, we can trade all of the following drafted, active forwards for 2 Dmen and a goalie.
Arnott, Satan, Lombardi, Maltby, Brodziak, Laraque, Marc Andre Pouliot, and prospects e.g. Chorney, Petry, etc.
Arnott should net a top-flight goalie. The rest probably nets 1 top-notch and one filler D. (We could even trade Stoll and Greene again for Vis., and roll Brodziak into the line up for Stoll.)
It's funny to notice that if the Oil had never made a trade, they'd be as good or maybe even better off than they were. Maybe the trades and not the drafting is the problem here.
December 16 2008, 04:30PM
@ kris:
Thanks for that. That's awesome.
@ kris: Best Post Ever. (Vocalized By Simpson's Comic Book Guy)
Wow is that ever depressing. Good work Kris.
I know I harp on the Oil being too small. I just like a big team. The best ever Oiler Team in my mind was the 1987/1988 edition. Went 16-2 in the playoffs. Crushed everyone offensively AND PHYSICALLY. That team had your obvious greats...but it also had Krushelnyski, Beukeboom, Muni, Dave Hunter, McSorley, and Steve Smith. We were HUGE for that time period. When Gretzky was moved a year later who did he demand go with him?...McSorley and Krusher! Offensively there were few passengers in the physical dept. Anderson and Simpson drove to the net without fear! Messier...nuff said. Tikanen: super pest/shutdown genius. Gretzky offered little by way of a physical element...but I give him a pass. The "NEW NHL" is far less free wheeling than the 1988 NHL...But even back then the team was built with size and considerable aggression. That is the template for success. (Again who did Gretzky take to LA?)


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Two second-half penalties from Morné Steyn saw South Africa come from behind to win 22-17 in a brutal match against Argentina.
Two second-half penalties from Morné Steyn saw South Africa come from behind to win 22-17 in a brutal match against Argentina.
The Springboks were unable to produce the same clinical finishing that saw them rack up so many point last weekend, sucked into a breakdown battle that they often lost until Steyn's boot prevailed in the closing stages.
Argentina, as widely expected, were completely unrecognisable from the sham that turned up at Soccer City last weekend and conceded nine tries.
A repeat of last weekend's 73-13 hammering in Soweto was always unlikely, with Argentina far more productive at containing the Springboks at the breakdown and in the set-pieces.
The hosts general attitude though was outstanding, taking the game to a South Africa side whose execution was far from the excellent level produced the week before.
Mendoza was the setting for the 18-18 draw between these two sides last season and once more South Africa looked unsettled early on.
The hosts couldn't have wished for a better start. Capitalising on loose ball at the ruck, Argentina surged upfield and from an attacking lineout five metres out they unleashed a clever rolling maul, with Juan Manuel Leguizamon touching down despite a hint of obstruction inside the opening three minutes.
Steyn and Felipe Contepomi traded penalties before the Springboks drew level, Bjorn Basson finding his way over after a harried turnover at the ruck created an overlap on the left-hand side.
It was a score that perhaps would have eluded a maturing South Africa side a year ago, but the 2013 version is a different beast and made the most of this rare chance.
Juandré Kruger's try was ruled out for an earlier knock-on at the lineout closely after Ruan Pienaar was also denied a score, beaten to the bounce in the dead-ball area by Martin Landajo.
South Africa were struggling to find the fluidity that served them so well a week before and their attitude was puzzling; a poor decision to opt for the corner instead of a simple penalty backfired on the Boks as an easy three points went begging with 25 minutes gone.
Their attack was also littered with knock-ons, with every single one giving the home side and their supporters renewed hope.
That hope was then converted into a second try; centre Marcelo Bosch forcing his way over through the tackle of Jannie du Plessis to put the Pumas up 17-10, Steyn responding with a long-range penalty before half-time.
Fired up by a rollicking from Heyneke Meyer, the Springboks were reinvigorated after the break and another Steyn penalty cut the deficit to just one point.
The penalty count began to creep up on the Pumas as the second half wore on, who showed at times too much enthusiasm at the breakdown.
Contepomi's departure with a shoulder injury felt like hammerblow to Argentina's prospects, but the continued tenacity shown by the hosts at the ruck meant that they kept their slender lead.
Repetitive small errors didn't help to calm what was already a tempestuous atmosphere and young lock Eben Etzebeth was penalised for lashing out, due to his unhappiness over a reported bite from an Argentinian player.
Experience was introduced in the form of Bismarck du Plessis, who won his 50th cap off the bench and capped it with a series of effective choke tackles to stifle Argentina's possession – but the Boks were still facing an uphill battle.
Steyn's penalty in the 71st minute after a collapsed maul finally put South Africa ahead for the first time in the match – a slender two-point lead silencing the crowd as the match drew to a close.
Desperate to create a final opportunity, Argentina failed to produce the necessary field position to generate a penalty or drop goal, instead finding themselves pinned back in their own 22.
Steyn's final penalty confirmed the result, but Argentina should take heart from an encouraging performance, despite their first win in The Rugby Championship still eluding them against an average South African performance.
The scorers:
For Argentina:
Tries: Leguizamon, Bosch
Cons: Contepomi 2
Pen: Contepomi
For South Africa:
Try: Basson
Con: Steyn
Pens: Steyn 5
Argentina: 15 Lucas Gonzalez Amorosino, 14 Gonzalo Camacho, 13 Marcelo Bosch, 12 Felipe Contepomi (captain), 11 Horacio Agulla, 10 Nicolás Sánchez, 9 MartÃn Landajo, 8 Leonardo Senatore, 7 Juan Manuel Leguizamón, 6 Pablo Matera, 5 Mariano Galarza, 4 Julio FarÃas Cabello, 3 Juan Figallo, 2 Eusebio Guiñazú,1 Marcos Ayerza.
Replacements: 16 AgustÃn Creevy, 17 Nahuel Lobo, 18 Tomas Lavaninni, 19 Benjamin Macome, 20 Tomás Cubelli, 21 Santiago Fernández, 22 Joaquin Tuculet.
South Africa: 15 Willie le Roux, 14 Bjorn Basson, 13 JJ Engelbrecht, 12 Jean de Villiers (c), 11 Bryan Habana, 10 Morné Steyn, 9 Ruan Pienaar, 8 Duane Vermeulen, 7 Willem Alberts, 6 Francois Louw, 5 Juandré Kruger, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Jannie du Plessis, 2 Adriaan Strauss, 1 Tendai Mtawarira.
Replacements: 16 Bismarck du Plessis, 17 Gurthrö Steenkamp, 18 Coenie Oosthuizen, 19 Flip Van Der Merwe, 20 Siya Kolisi, 21 Jano Vermaak, 22 Pat Lambie, 23 Jan Serfontein.
Date: Saturday, August 24
Venue: Estadio Malvinas Argentinas, Mendoza
Kick-off: 16.10 (19.10 GMT)
Referee: Steve Walsh (Australia)
Assistant referees:John Lacey (Ireland), Pascal Gauzère (France)
TMO: Marshall Kilgore (Ireland)
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Ignorance may be bliss for the individual, but societally and globally it is a disaster. What a vastly better world this would be if people could only think straight. I'd rather be "cursed" with intelligence. At least I'll know I wasn't part of the problem.
I'm only unhappy and cynical when thinking about and discussing these kinds of large-scale issues. It comes from the frustration of knowing better when no one listens to your advice. Again, I'd rather be the Cassandra and know the truth of the situation.
And oh -- your terming me a "blatantly unhappy, cynical and miserable person" could easily be flagged as a violation and get you a warning -- it CERTAINLY would if I had said it. Luckily for you I don't do childish things like that, unlike those that have flagged me for the tiniest verbal slip. Just more proof that I'm better.
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intense bitterness towards women, a feeling of isolation among your male acquaintances and peers, feeling alienated from society - you expressed that you feel unfairly treated, abused and discriminated as a white male in the Western World. You say that you are proud of your intellectual and moral superiority, but at the same time your posts seem to indicate that you suffer a great deal from said qualities.
Despite feeling thoroughly insulted by nearly every single one of your posts (after all, I am a young selfish woman in the modern society of Western Europe with rather liberal beliefs and the desire to realise her dreams - and therefore I represent more or less everything you consider to be wrong in the world) - I am glad to hear that you are only unhappy and cynical when discussing those topics and hereby apologise for the generalisation in the other post.
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Medusa -- give it up. And you want some negativity? Try listening to the people I work with complain about their ex-wives, every single minute of every day. I'm roses and sunshine compared to them.
As for the supposed rosy and liberated present for your gender, surveys show that American women are significantly less happy now than in the 1970's. I guess many career women (like my older sister) who threw out their husband like a used paper towel, then dealt with the pressures of being a single mom, and the dissatisfaction of the futile chase for fantasy men that don't exist -- aren't, in fact, happy! What a surprise!
This society is in deep denial about itself, perpetuating lies and harmful idealism about human nature in the name of political correctness. The holy grail of personal independence and money is raised on its pedestal and chased after with myopic lunacy, while "antiquated" things like family and mutual respect, respect for fathers or any semblance of gender roles are left behind. Millions of people, especially children, suffer every day as a result. I'm sorry you expect me to be happy (or silent) about that, cause it ain't happening.
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So what should the woman's role be, exactly? Because even Biblically the woman is encouraged to hold more of a position than just housewife and mother. The Proverbs 31 woman not only keeps her home, but she adds to the household income. She's revered and respected and LOVED by her husband, not because he's her submissive slave but because he loves her as God loves.
I wouldn't give a man the time of day if he didn't respect my opinion, LISTEN to me, or if he treated me like I was stupid and beneath him. It's a partnership, Biblically the woman is considered a 'helpmate' her role is not beneath the man's it's side by side, and just different.
Some of the women in this thread have had long successful careers AND marriages. And they are the modern woman, and they have spoken up and against your opinion and view. They're not the exception to the rule, they just seem to have found a man who understands their wife's importance and worth.
And gay women have a right to marry same sex galfriends. No?
I think everyone knows my answer to that one... which yes is founded in those same religious beliefs as stated above.


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PRICE-Marilyn West, age 63 passed away Jan. 26, 2010 in Price, Utah. She was born Jan. 25, 1947 in Dragerton, Utah to Fred and Marie Mabbutt. She married Bradley West in Price, Utah on Aug. 28, 1969. Their marriage was later solemnized in the Manti LDS Temple.
Marilyn was raised in Price with her three brothers: Darrell, Lynn, and Ben. She attended BYU where she met Bradley West. Bradley was enlisted in the Army and they transferred to various bases, then settled for a time in El Paso, Texas before moving back to Price, Utah. She raised three daughters and has nine grandsons. She loved her children fiercely as well as her nine grand boys. She loved her co-workers from the Holiday Inn, and the Relief Society sisters in the Gordon Creek Ward where she served as Relief Society Secretary.
She is survived by her husband, Bradley West; children: Mindy (Brian) Spears and Holly (Chris) Jones; son-in-law, Matt (Sharon) Coon; grandchildren: Jamin, Jordan, Gage, Garrett, Gaven, Grayden, Gregory, Canyon, and Benton; mother, Marie Mabbutt; and brothers: Darryl, Lynn, and Ben.
She is preceded in death by her daughter, Cordy West Coon; and father, Fred Mabbutt.
Funeral Services were held Saturday, Jan. 30, 2010 at 11 a.m. the Gordon Creek LDS Chapel (175 North 1280 West - Price, Utah). A viewing was held Friday, Jan. 29, 2010 from 6-8 p.m. at Fausett Mortuary (680 East 100 South - Price, Utah) and on Saturday from 9:30-10:30 a.m. prior to the services at the church. Interment was in the Price City Cemetery. Services were in the care of Fausett Mortuary. Friends and family may sign the guest book and share memories of Marilyn at www.fausettmortuary.com


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Heath Evans just reported on NFL Network that the Jets front 7 "still looks soft" in run drills. Evans added that they don't look like they want anything to do with contact.
Not a great thing to hear about the "enforcers" on D. That worries me a lot considering this was suppossed to be the best part of our team.
Evans did say, however, that the DBs look very aggressive, but there doesn't seem to be any real targets on offense for the Jets, something we pretty much knew.
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Skip to comments.Texas megadonor Steve Mostyn gives $1 million to Gabby Giffords gun-control group
Posted on 01/12/2013 8:59:55 AM PST by Tailgunner Joe
Houston trial lawyers Steve and Amber Mostyn say theyre giving $1 million to a gun-control group formed by former Arizona Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and her husband, astronaut Mark Kelly. Steve Mostyn is a major Democratic campaign contributor, backing candidates in Texas and nationally. He gave $3 million to Priorities USA Action, a super PAC aiding President Obamas re-election. Hes perhaps best known in Texas for launching a media campaign against Rick Perry two years ago in which he chided the Republican governor for his reluctance to debate in his 2010 reelection race with a full-page newspaper ad depicting Perry and the word Coward.
Mostyn, who describes himself as a gun-owner, says the group hopes to raise $20 million for the 2014 elections enough to match the National Rifle Associations political giving. The NRA spent $13 million last year trying to defeat President Obamas reelection. It also spent money in seven Senate races, losing six and winning one.
In media interviews, Mostyn said Americans for Republican Solutions with support pro-gun-control candidates and conduct a public education campaign with television spots. Giffords launched the new group this week.
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This is a hostile act toward 2nd Amendment rights. We should counter this by contributing to your favorite Pro 2nd Amendment organization. This is only one individual with some money to waste.
Ambulance chaser. Figures.
You mean, this Gabby Giffords?
I am surprised someone has not started a speech control group to parody these anti-gun nuts. All the same arguments could be used. The founders never envisioned internet, instant world-wide communications, movies, etc. when they wrote the first ammendment. The right should be limited to all ways to communicate at the time the Constitution was written (like the "cannon argument"). And why does anybody really NEED to create or watch films or videos? If controlling speech saves just one life, then it should be done. Limit the number of movies one can watch each year and you must be registered to do any public speaking and declare your intentions. I guess some people don't understand that the second is all that really backs up the first ammendment.
Wow, a liberal hiding behind a fake "Republicans are bad". Sounds like these two are competing with John Edwards.
At least Mongo recognized the fact. That makes him much smarter than Gabby.
Gabby Giffords and James Brady are the Left's most valuable vegetables.
These people need to be identified and exposed. This type of individual is the REAL problem in this nation. Obama is NOT the problem. Democrat congressmen and women are not the problem. It IS people like Mostyn that are the problem, hiding behind politicians doing their bidding. THESE GUYS HAVE TO BE DEPORTED OR FORCED TO FLEE TO SOME OTHER COUNTRY.
Why is it that ambulance chasers are liberals? I think it is their guilt from stealing from others to make their wealth. They are like government bureaucrats - they create nothing, only redistribute.
The term "whores" also comes to mind.
Giffords is a Democrat & she launched a group with "Republican" in the name? Curiouser & curiouser.
I think it's already been done but it wasn't a parody. What about stating your religious beliefs can be hate speech?
They lobby so that everything a person or business does is an infraction of some law or regulation and can be sued. That gets them more clients. Good example, the Disabilities Act has put many businesses completely out of business.
People always try to justify their life. This is how Me Gifford justifies hers. She might get 30% better but that is about it. I did not like her before the shooting either
I blame her stupid astronaut husband for egging her on. They have their anti-gun foundation now and they now have a steady paycheck from this non-profit. Plenty of other useless eater incompetent libs get hired too.
I saw the interview with Giffords and her a-hole astronut husband. He is using her in the same shameless way Sara Brady used her spouse as a stage prop to raise money.
"..I saw the interview with Giffords and her a-hole astronut husband. He is using her in the same shameless way Sara Brady used her spouse as a stage prop to raise money..."
Like most all libs, they're in it for the money and will dance on dead babys' graves if that's what it takes to get some. They should be considered for what they are: useless pieces of human dung, bottom-feeders of the worst kind.
Make more things illegal, drum up more business as a criminal defense attorney. A cynical money game.
What guns does he own, and which guns is he willing to give up? BTW, have you noticed how avid anti-gun advocates insist on pointing out that they are gun owners?
trial lawyers... what a surprise
Ambulance chaser. Figures.
Naw, he's just happy Zippy has a sister.
Ambulance chaser. Figures.
Naw, he's just happy Zippy has a sister.
"I saw the interview with Giffords and her a-hole astronut husband. He is using her in the same shameless way Sara Brady used her spouse as a stage prop to raise money."
These two couples remind of the Thenarders, cheating, stealing, picking pockets, dishonest in everyway.
Just to be clear--- Running a foundation can be a great job these days. So Giffords+ Astronaut will have very nice paycheck for years and sky-high medical benefits they will vote themselves. All Astronaut has to do is wheel her out for gun grabbing media appearances. My bet is they will take combined salaries of $500,000 per year from this scam foundation. Just my hunches
Same with Cindy Sheean.
It is amazing how much money democrats make in the trial lawyer industry.
I don't suppose anyone ever wants to point out to democrats that A rich lawyer(like almost all of their politicians) are simply people who has become rich off the backs of the abused and the Government.
If that is more honorable than a Business man who has become rich off creating a product people WANTED to buy, then I don't know by what measure any man can become illegitimately successful.
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Fire Chief Richard O'Brien presented the policy proposal to selectmen Monday, outlining plans to increase fees for ambulance services to the Medicare rate plus 35 percent, up from the current fee of the Medicare rate plus 20 percent.
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Currently, revenues from ambulance billing are placed in the town's EMS Special Revenue fund for the purpose of maintaining ambulance service operations. The town collected $430,000 last year, O'Brien said.
One of the factors that drove the creation of the policy was an audit from 2011 that showed $337,000 in uncollected revenues for ambulance services, with $234,000 of that for accounts more than 120 days overdue.
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O'Brien pointed out that the figure includes accounts dating to 2004 and 2005.
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Well, now there's a new television show that brings together the art and science of cooking: Marcel's Quantum Kitchen. The show, which airs Tuesdays at 10 PM EST on the Syfy channel, features former Top Chef contestant Marcel Vigneron as he explores his interest in molecular gastronomy, a style of cooking that transforms food with science. In Marcel's Quantum Kitchen, Vigneron makes mozzarella into balloons, watermelon into tuna-like sashimi, wine into pasta, and even more crazy concoctions – all while explaining the science behind the alterations. In the video below, Vigneron changes the texture and flavor of watermelon to mimic tuna (a technique called "form mimicking"). Using a gastro vacuum, he sucks out the oxygen from the watermelon marinated in a mixture of rice wine and vinegar. "What the gastro vac does is suck the air out of the environment, compressing the watermelon – kind of like wringing out a sponge," he explains. "When the pressure returns to normal, the porous structure of the watermelon sucks in the marinade." His experiment works and the watermelon takes on the look of tuna sashimi.
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Bruce Barrett, Area Manager for the Bureau of Reclamation's Provo Area Office was at the recent Emery Water Conservancy District meeting. He said he has been working with the district for 12-15 years and the district is making great strides and becoming more efficient with the computerized monitoring equipment.
"Jay is doing a great job with the district. Over time other districts around the state hire more staff as the district and projects grow. I want to give you my feelings about this district. I would like to see the benefits from the projects you do continue. Jay needs a new staff member here as an assistant," said Barrett.
Barrett said the EWCD's operating and maintenance costs are probably the lowest in the state. He suggested the board look at the rates they are charging to municipal and industrial users, along with agriculture. If the board can see their way clear to raise those rates, an assistant could be hired to help and learn the workings of the district.
"This is a very important, very critical need for the district to have backup for Jay in the way of an assistant. There are no increases coming from the federal government that I can foresee. I know the problem is finding the right person to be that assistant. One thought would be to take on an intern. Your water rates are significantly lower than other areas and this may provide the income stream to pay for an assistant," stated Barrett.
Craig Johansen requested from Barrett a written recommendation from Barrett's economist as to where the rates should be adjusted. Barrett agreed to send his economist to help work with the district and prepare suggestions. The board will meet again on Dec. 10 at 7 p.m. at the district office to hear the suggestions and make a decision.
Jay Mark Humphrey informed the board of the great year for water in Emery County. "All of the agricultural water has been delivered. The power company still has about 5,000 feet remaining. The salinity project has really helped Huntington's water use," said Humphrey.
Lee McElprang, chairman of the board, said, "This automated system has really helped. We can check every day to find problems fast and get them repaired."
The San Rafael River restoration basin project is creating quite a few problems for the upstream water users. The board agreed to watch the Division of Wildlife Resource's actions closely to monitor the situation.
Morris Sorensen from the Muddy Irrigation Company said the sediment basin project is moving along. It is ready for the design work and the environmental assessment study. "This project is a prerequisite for a sprinkling system for the users on the Muddy system," said Sorensen.
The board discussed items to be included in the contracts and approved for Johansen to arrange the archaeological study to be completed. The goal for this project is to have construction underway in six weeks.
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Mimi's Cafe reveals recipe for revamp
When Philip Costner worked as corporate chef at Universal Studios Hollywood in 1996, he lived near a bustling Mimi's Cafe in Valencia.
The classically trained chef craved every dish on the bistro's menu. With aspirations to head his own company, the ambitious Costner recalls telling a friend, "I really think I'd like to run Mimi's."
Seventeen years later, serendipity has made his prophetic statement a reality.
In January, Costner's Dallas-based employer, Le Duff America, purchased Mimi's Cafe from Ohio-based Bob Evans Farms for $50 million.
Mimi's headquarters will remain in Irvine, and corporate staffing will be beefed up as Le Duff rolls out an aggressive plan to reverse years of sluggish sales.
Costner, who led a turnaround of Le Duff's la Madeleine Country French Café, is charged with breathing new life into Mimi's as its new president.
In an exclusive interview with the Register, Costner said Le Duff plans to invest up to $35 million reimaging the brand by paring down its expansive menu, toning down its overly themed restaurants and improving the quality of the chain's core French-inspired foods.
"We're going to bring authenticity back on the menu," Costner said.
Le Duff, which owns Bruegger's Bagels, also plans to scrutinize the finances at each of the chain's 145 locations.
"There's potential that a couple of very, very underperforming units could close," said Costner, who is relocating to Orange County.
"But we don't have a plan to do that at this time. We'd make those decisions in the next 90 days."
Costner outlined Le Duff's commitment to Mimi's Cafe, a beloved Orange County institution founded in 1978 by Arthur Simms. Here's what he had to say:
Q. What did your friend say when you told him that you now run Mimi's?
A. He said, "Wow, it's almost like you had a crystal ball."
Q. How did you react?
A. I'm humbled by the responsibility. It's something I've wanted to do for a long time.
Q. What does your turnaround plan entail?
A. One of the initiatives is menu re-engineering. There's not one part of the menu we won't take a deep dive into. All the soups, sauces, seasonings – everything will be scrutinized for quality. We're going to use the original menu as a starting point.
Q. Mimi's is not the same chain that you admired in 1996. How has it strayed?
A. (In its heyday) the food was absolutely delicious. Mimi's had a keen sense of who it was. People loved it.
Somewhere along the line, that focus was either lost or redirected. Someone made the decision to put products that were prevalent in casual dining but probably shouldn't be on the menu at Mimi's.
We're bringing back the quality, authenticity and freshness that Mimi's had when it was the top of the food chain.
Q. What do you mean by authenticity?
A. We're not going to put a big Eiffel Tower in front of the building.
Q. Are you saying existing cafes remind you of a theme park?
A. Some of them do. If you're authentic, you don't have to tell people who you are. If you have to tell people that you're French, you're not.
Q. It sounds like you want to pare down the menu and remove items.
A. If you do fewer things more often, and better, you're going to win the game.
Q. Can you be more specific about menu items that don't belong?
A. I would question hibachi salmon and the Asian Chicken Salad.
Q. So Mimi's expanded for the sake of expansion. Does this mean you'll get rid of other items like burgers?
A. No, not necessarily. There was a burger on the original menu. It's a stronger fit than the hibachi salmon.
Q. Le Duff bought Mimi's at a steep discount. How much capital is the company investing in reimaging restaurants?
A. We're going to be investing $25 (million) to $35 million into this brand.
Q. Last year, under Bob Evans, Mimi's introduced a modern prototype restaurant in Valencia that included a coffee bar and to-go bakery. Will LeDuff continue to roll out this new concept?
A. To a very large degree, yes. We did spend some time in Valencia (during the sale), and we were very impressed by the steps taken at that cafe. It's fun and really well done. Numbers don't lie. Folks in that community are enjoying that restaurant.
Q. A few years ago, Mimi's began to push cocktail and bar programs. Currently, there's 62 restaurants with full bars, 34 with limited bars and 19 with beer and wine only. Is this still an area of focus for Le Duff?
A. Yes, I think it is. The vast majority of cocktails and beer and wine we sell are in the dining room.
We owe it to ourselves to look at the traditional bar component and ask ourselves, 'Does it fit?' Alcohol has a role. I certainly don't see Mimi's becoming a sports bar, singles bar or late-night bar.
Q. Could you remove the bars?
A. I'd say it is a possibility, but I certainly wouldn't go tell you that we'd tear out bars at this point.
Q. Will there be any crossover or sharing of menu items between la Madeleine and Mimi's?
A. There's potential for some crossover. Almost all of our brands have a quiche, so it is possible we'd use the same tart shell.
It's really important that each brand under the Le Duff umbrella be unique. Each has its own DNA. On the signature products, you won't see crossover.
Q. So Mimi's muffins won't be on the la Madeleine menu?
A. No.
Q. Do you plan to build new restaurants?
A. We have put plans to build new restaurants on hold for the near term.
We're focusing on our assets. We're going to put a lot of love into those stores. Customers will start seeing changes in the next few months. Our goal is to touch every single store.
Q. What would you like to tell the Mimi's customer?
A. Keep an eye on Mimi's. We don't buy it, build it and flip it and move on.
We're going to get back on top, and it's going to be a fun, fun ride.
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nend no-one is disagreeing with you. It is important that everyone stand against SOPA in its current format.
Hopefully Google, Facebook, Twitter, and PayPal will go through with their coordinated blackout in protest if the bill exits the committee.
Anybody know of the date of the blackout, one day without the net isn't going to hurt me too much if it is for the greater good of protecting the internet as we know it. It isn't like I am going to go on a full blackout just maybe a landing page with information.
Quote from: nend on January 06, 2012, 11:26:59 AMAnybody know of the date of the blackout, one day without the net isn't going to hurt me too much if it is for the greater good of protecting the internet as we know it. It isn't like I am going to go on a full blackout just maybe a landing page with information.According to the latest news article I could find, here, the plan is for January 24. This happens to be the day that the Senate is scheduled to vote.If you want to participate in things, check out Stop American Censorship. They have tools on the site for participating in the protest.
Many consider the bill to be a form of censorship, similar to the way the China has blocked certain content from being accessed via internet. Now, major sites like Facebook, Google, Twitter, Amazon, Ebay, Wikipedia,Yahoo, Paypal, and more are planning to completely black out their services on January 23, instead displaying a message urging users to contact their reps and speak out against SOPA.
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Amazon, eBay, Facebook, Google, PayPal, Twitter, Yahoo, Wikipedia and many more have planned a blackout to show congress what could happen if SOPA is passed. The blackout will be for January the 23 of 2012 and all services from these providers will be halted.This means on that day you will not be able to browse the internet as freely as you can now. You will not be able to check your Facebook, Google+ or Twitter status. You will not be able to shop eBay or Amazon or pay for a purchase at a site that takes PayPal. You will not be able to use Google or Yahoo search also. You will not be able to use any of the services provided by these sites.It has not been determine if the blackout level will affect any of the API's hosted by these services. If it does then any site that uses an API provided by the sites that are in the blackout will not work at all or will not work properly. So this means any site you see the Facebook, Google, PayPal or Twitter logo will not work properly or not at all. The API's for most of these sites also extend to external applications, such as those you find on your Android, IPhone or even your PC.We have determine it is in the best interest of this website and internet as a whole to support these sites as they descend into the blackout. On January the 23 if any of these services are off line meaning they went through with the blackout, the chances are that we would of have pulled the plug also.If you plan to take action against SOPA or need more information on SOPA please visit the links below.https://www.eff.org/actionhttp://americancensorship.org/http://savehosting.org/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Online_Piracy_Acthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PROTECT_IP_ActWe know how much of an inconvenience this may be to you and we should be back on the 24th. Please understand this blackout is a attempt to show congress what could happen if they pass this bill. This bill affects are freedom of speech on the internet and it must be shot down.Sorry for any inconvenience,SI Team
What we really need is for the House's and Senate's upstream provider to block those sites on a copyright violation claim.
"Oh hai! We haz awesome back end logix!" *does happy dance*"Cool. Hey I wanna do ***** on the front end.""No can do.""Why not?""Coz we haz awesome back end logix!" *happy dance again*"Meh."
I have a feeling there's some shady business going on here as well, given the political clout and deep pockets that some of the supporters have. I'm sure a few of them have "encouraged" their politicians to support the bill with the promise of a large donation to their election campaign. Teamsters in particular has a lot of influence as far as politics go.
I can't figure out why some of these groups are supporting it though - how to the FOP, Mastercard and Visa benefit from this bill? Less work for them to do as far as fighting piracy?
Personally, I think SOPA is the proverbial wool over our eyes. It was introduced as a means to keep us distracted while they (the Congress/House of Reps) draw up an even more sinister way to censor the internet and other things.I hope to every deity that I am wrong. But, I've noticed that I am not alone in feeling this way either.Also, in regards to the proposed "blackout" on January 23rd, I have only one thing to say about that...
I can't access anything Google right now, anyone else experiencing this. Arghh right in the middle of some Android development and can't even read the docs.
Personally, I think SOPA is the proverbial wool over our eyes. It was introduced as a means to keep us distracted while they (the Congress/House of Reps) draw up an even more sinister way to censor the internet and other things.I hope to every deity that I am wrong. But, I've noticed that I am not alone in feeling this way either.
Must be the Protect IP Act that nobody seems to know about because SOPA is getting all the attention.
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Skip to comments.N.Korea claims capture of U.S. submersible(or torpedo?)
Posted on 08/07/2006 4:43:12 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
N.Korea claims capture of U.S. submersible
By KWANG-TAE KIM, Associated Press Writer
1 hour, 36 minutes ago
North Korea claimed it has captured an unmanned U.S. submersible and put it on display in Pyongyang, a pro-North Korean newspaper in Japan said Monday. The U.S. dismissed the report.
The small vessel was captured during a reconnaissance mission in waters off North Korea's eastern city of Hamhung, said the Choson Sinbo newspaper, which is published by a pro-North Korean association linked to the Pyongyang government.
The newspaper report on its Web site, which is monitored in Seoul, was accompanied by a picture purported to be of the black torpedo-shaped U.S. vessel. There were no further details as to when or how North Korea obtained it.
A spokesman for the U.S. military in South Korea, David Oten, dismissed the report.
"We have nothing unaccounted for and there is no way for us to verify that this is a U.S. vessel," Oten said.
Last September, North Korean leader Kim Jong-Il instructed officials to put the captured vessel on public display next to the spy ship USS Pueblo, which the communist regime seized along with its crew of 82 in 1968, the newspaper said. The crew was released after 11 months.
The Pueblo, moored to the bank of the Taedong River in Pyongyang, is now the site of tours to inspire anti-U.S. sentiment among the country's 23 million people. Some 1,500 North Koreans made daily visits to the Pueblo during a recent month-long, anti-U.S. rally period, said the newspaper.
Despite repeated U.S. assurances that it has no intention of attacking the North, the communist country frequently claims that Washington seeks to invade it and that the U.S. is driving tensions on the Korean Peninsula to the brink of war.
The North recently raised regional tensions by test-launching seven missiles, including a new long-range model believed capable of reaching the U.S. that failed shortly after takeoff.
It looks like a torpedo.
Any Navy types out there who can identify this object?
"We have nothing unaccounted for and there is no way for us to verify that this is a U.S. vessel," Oten said.
But he apparently doesn't deny that we have them operating in the area. Hmmmm...
Now that I think of it, it makes no sense. If we had unmanned submerisibles operating in the area, they would be designed to self destruct rather than be captured.
Wouldn't it literally be the "bomb" if it was actually a cleverly disguised nuke torpedo. One with a delayed timer on it.
It looks like a recon torp, but I am no expert.
There. Fixed.
"It looks like a recon torp, but I am no expert."
Perhaps you could enlighten us with just a little experience on what a 'recon torp' might be.
I think you're chatting, advisedly speaking, through your hat.
There. Fixed.
Almost, but not quite:
"Some 1,500 North Koreans -- lured by the promise of a steamed dumpling each -- made daily visits to the Pueblo during a recent month-long, anti-U.S. rally period, and the government had its hands full preventing visitors from trying to eat everything in sight, said the newspaper.
There we go! Now its fixed.
Reporter: What kind of torpedo is it?
Johnny: Oh, it's a big pretty black torpedo with curly fins, a flat nose, propellers, and it just looks like a big ....
Oh, that's what happened to our 'DOOMSDAY' torpedo. Hope they don't try and open it!
If it were a recon torpedo I would think the first thing the N. Koreans would have done was try to get into the thing to see how it works. If they did that they would be displaying the scientific instruments they took from it as proof of what the thing was.
Just an opinion ---not a fact.
It would be "interesting" to see how long that "concrete" and cut stone and grout around the display case have been in place.
Lining up for dumplings at the Pueblo!!
"Hey! Where's the kochujan you promised??"
I will never understand how we let North Korea get away with this.
Kim Jong-Il: "We captured it. The big rong missre. But it's ticking and we don't know why."
Yep, that is a torpedo from 1958.
That old? Must be something N. Korean fishermen got in their net while fishing crabs.:)
Just wait for the Reuters story, it'll look exactly like one of those.
It looks like one from an old episode of Gilligan's Island.
That would be assuming the were competent enough to properly utilize simple hand tools.
What is what, a 'recon torp?' A fanciful hypothetical born of too many video games. The photograph? An otherwise unidentified ostensible torpedo.
It is probably a NK mockup of one of their failed attempts at creating b/s.
Just wait for the Reuters story, it'll look exactly like one of those.
It's a Ronery Torpedo.
A black tube shape on a NK news site? Do you know what is 'credulity?' How 'bout a failure of scepticism.
I personally saw the "Recon Torpedo" on the History Channel. The show was " Hitler's Secret Nazi Wonder Weapons of 1957"
Johnny, how about some coffee?
It looks like the Hunley!
The South Shall Rise Again, and overthrow that rittle rownrey guy!!!
Maybe so, but good luck on recruiting the 4th crew for the Hunley.
Why don't you and Kenny Bunco have a nice chat together?
If they can put a missile together, even one that only flies a few miles ,and they can build a nuclear weapon, we have to assume they can figure a way into this thing.
Maybe it's a WWII leftover from the Japanese navy...... they probably based some stuff in Korea, which was under their control.......
North Koreans were once competent enough to use hand tools, but lately it seems someone has eaten all the handles. For their sake, I hope this torpedo is ethanol-fueled, and that they all get a chance to suck on it. That could be as close to a national holiday as these poor bastards are ever likely to get.
North Koreans were once competent enough to use hand tools, but lately it seems someone has eaten all the handles. For their sake, I hope this torpedo is ethanol-fueled, and that they all get a chance to suck on it. That could be as close to a national holiday as these poor bastards are ever likely to get.
I was thinking the same thing before I even saw the picture. Gilligan being chased around the camp by the torpedo with that great chase music playing. Loved it!
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Emery finished 4th at Carbon Duals
Emery High, along with 8 other schools, participated in the Carbon Duals wrestling meet last Friday and Saturday and came away with a 4th place finish.
Emery opened the meet with a team match against ALA and won 65-18. Emery then defeated Park City 60-15. Duchesne then edged Emery 41-39 and Emery and Monticello tied at 40-40. Emery then defeated Carbon 39-34 and lost to Orem 41-36. Tooele's A team then defeated Emery 67-6 before Emery defeated Tooele's B team 72-6.
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Winners against Duchesne were Collard pin first, Hatch pin first, J Guymon dec., Sanchez pin first, Gardner dec., Bohn pin second, Jones forfeit.
Winners against Monticello were Wilson forfeit, Walls pin second, Larsen pin first, Collard dec., Hatch forfeit, Sanchez pin second, Jones pin second.
Winners against Carbon were 103lbs Spencer Fehlberg dec., Walls pin third, Larsen pin third, Gardner pin first, Mecham forfeit, Bohn pin second, Jones pin first.
Winners against Orem were Fehlberg pin third, Walls pin first, Larsen forfeit, Collard forfeit, J Guymon pin second, Sanchez dec., Bohn dec..
Winner against Tooele A was Felhberg pin first. Winners against Tooele B were Fehlberg pin first, Walls forfeit, T Guymon pin first, Walls pin first, Larsen forfeit, Collard pin first, Hatch forfeit, J Guymon forfeit pin, Sanchez pin first, Gardner pin second, Mecham pin first, Bohn forfeit and Jones forfeit.


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When you have an idea and need to get out as fast as you can, because otherwise your brain becomes addicted to the idea of ideas.
A term created by the YouTube people Vlogbrothers.
A term created by the YouTube people Vlogbrothers.
When you think "My idea is so important that I have to keep it in my head till I can execute it perfectly" and get this brain crack idea out.
by secretsuperperson April 16, 2009
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