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Hi! My husband and I practice attachment parenting, but we live in a small town in Texas where people MAY practice it but just not by that name or may not be familiar with it. We live in Lexington. Anyone near us? Just thought I'd check and see!
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Hey there! I have family in the Katy area too. My big thing is that I really like my son's pediatrician, but she is not totally for all of that goes along with Attachment Parenting like co-sleeping. I am really in hopes of finding a pediatrian somewhat nearby who is into Attachment Parenting and holistic (they have to be out there ). I found a holistic dentist in Bastrop, so I was happy about that.
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What API group are you a part of? Austin? I'm sure there are tons of supportive peds in austin since that seems to be such a "crunchy" town. But that might still be a bit of a drive for ya. We've found one we love here but it took us a while!
Yeah, we're about an hour away from Austin. I like our ped, but I make sure to speak up about what is done to our son and why. She questioned me at first about co-sleeping, etc., but I told her that I had thoroughly read up on how to do it safely and offered to her if she wanted any Attachment Parenting info for her other patients. I did find a holistic dentist in Bastop! So, that is good! I like my eye doc, but he's in Katy (where my family lives). He's breastfeeding- friendly though, which is always a plus! Maybe in the future I may start an AP group in my little town. I'll be a while though as our day fills up with nursing and ECing.
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I live in Austin, so it sounds like we're not too far from you. We have an Elgin family that often joins us at central Austin AP events. Contact me privately and I'll gladly get you information on the Austin chapters of API. There are events happening all over Austin where AP families get together for fun.


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Roberto Di Matteo has admitted he thought he was being sacked, not promoted, before he was handed the reins at Chelsea last season.
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Di Matteo revealed for the first time his darkest fears after the Blues' fateful Premier League defeat at West Brom on March 3, which led to Andre Villas-Boas's demise as manager less than 24 hours later.
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Villas-Boas' then-assistant was immediately appointed caretaker following a training-ground meeting with owner Roman Abramovich, director Eugene Tenenbaum and chief executive Ron Gourlay.
But that was far from the outcome Di Matteo was bracing himself for when he was summoned by his bosses.
Asked if he had been expecting the boot, he said: "I did, yeah, quite frankly. It was a very emotional day, that day, for us."
Di Matteo's revelation came as he marked 257 days in charge, the exact number of days Villas-Boas had spent in the hotseat, and the day before Chelsea's first trip to The Hawthorns since last season's defeat - Di Matteo's first return there as a manager since West Brom sacked him just over a year earlier.
Having masterminded the greatest climax to a season in Chelsea's history, a loss would not spell the end of Di Matteo's time in charge at Stamford Bridge.
But a fourth straight league game without a win would certainly see the vultures begin to circle at a time of year when Chelsea traditionally struggle.
Pointing out they had won matches in both the Champions League and Capital One Cup during the period they had dropped from first to third place, Di Matteo said: "You need to put things into perspective.
"We're in good shape, the players are in good spirit. We need to keep going on and try to get the win.
"We've shown our character many, many times. It's not just a test of character.
"When we play well and manage to do so in a game, we can win games."
It is easy to imagine Di Matteo having given his bosses at West Brom the same assurances before he was unceremoniously sacked last year.
The Italian lost his job after a lengthy run of bad results, although he had just led them back into the Premier League at the first attempt and they were not even in the relegation zone.
However, replacement Roy Hodgson did turn their campaign around - ultimately earning him the England job - while Di Matteo's subsequent adventures are now the stuff of legend.
Astonishing Champions League and FA Cup triumphs last season led to him being appointed Chelsea manager full time and gave him licence to be philosophical about his Hawthorns demise.
Insisting his sacking did not dent that self-belief, he said: "I learned a lot of things - which people to trust, who not to trust.
"I'm certainly a better coach and manager now from the experience I had in the past, and the experience I had here as an assistant and now a manager working with these players."
Di Matteo insisted he bore no grudges over his controversial dismissal in February 2011, which ended up working out spectacularly well for both parties.
Former Chelsea team-mate and assistant manager Steve Clarke has led the Baggies to fifth in the table this season and Di Matteo said: "I'm pleased for him."
Asked if he could have done the same, he replied: "God knows."
But he added: "They certainly have a stronger team. They have made some good signings, and are more established now as a Premier League club."
There are still plenty of players there from the Di Matteo era and after reeling off a list of names, the Italian said: "I'm not taking credit for them, but there's still a good number from when I was there."
West Brom's home record is second only to Manchester City's and they may fancy their chances against a Chelsea side who saw several of their players forced to travel long distances to play for their countries in midweek.
Di Matteo hit out at November's midweek friendlies, saying: "From a club point of view, they don't make any sense.
"Most managers won't be too happy having three-quarters of their team jetting around the world for a friendly."
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Wales will be keen to avoid looking the same colour of their jerseys for a seventh straight time when they host Australia on Saturday.
Wales will be out to avoid looking the same colour of their jerseys for a seventh straight time when they host Australia in Cardiff on Saturday.
The hosts need to return to winning ways in order to avoid a November whitewash of four defeats and to preserve their place among the world's top eight-ranked teams prior to Monday's 2015 World Cup draw in London.
If they win or draw, Wales will stay seventh.
Easier said than done as their rugby-mad supporters have discovered, seeing as they were last treated to a win way back in June when Wales beat the Barbarians.
Since then the Six Nations champs suffered a 3-0 series defeat Down Under, were shocked by Argentina and Samoa in their opening two games this month before going down to New Zealand.
But it could all have been so differently scripted a year ago, after a flamboyant Welsh side performed so well at the World Cup and then went on to win a third Six Nations Grand Slam in eight years.
Consistency has well and truly deserted Wales, a loss for whom on Saturday would represent their worst run of defeats since 2003. Indeed, the Welsh are starring down the barrel and Australia – assured of a top seeding for the World Cup draw – have their finger on the trigger.
Pride and morale will also no doubt be low in the Wales camp especially coming in a season in which many players are looking to stake their claims for places in next year's British & Irish Lions squad.
"I think the game is massively important from a Welsh perspective, in terms of confidence and building on last week," said Wales coach Warren Gatland, who will lead the Lions to Australia next year.
"From a Lions point of view, it's about some of the Welsh players putting their hands up in terms of selection. There are maybe a couple of lines going through a couple of names and they need to re-establish themselves."
Gatland, however, isn't too concerned about the ramifications regarding the upcoming World Cup draw.
"If anyone is looking at us, when it comes around to 2015 and having had the preparation time together, I don't think any team particularly fancies getting Wales in their group," he said.
"We were in a really tough group last time. It is luck of the draw."
The Wallabies, meanwhile, have silenced their critics (albeit temporarily) following their opening match on tour in Paris, and have rebounded well heading into ths clash. They squeezed past Italy 22-19, having held on to beat England 20-14 the previous Saturday and will be confident of ending their trip to Europe on a high note.
After a turbulent season of mixed results and innumerable injuries, the Wallabies not only need to beat Wales for a fourth time this year, but do it with style to keep coach Robbie Deans' small army of doubters reasonably quiet over the holiday period.
However, as coach Deans put it earlier this week: "Cornered beasts are always the most dangerous; they have nowhere else to go but straight ahead."
In a recap of team news, Deans has named David Pocock in his starting XV. The openside flanker who led Australia to the three-Test clean sweep in June has recovered from a knee injury that has ruled him since the Wallabies' opening match of the Rugby Championship against New Zealand in August.
Wales have made four changes, all in the pack, to their run-on team. Gatland notably bringing in Scott Andrews for injured tighthead prop Aaron Jarvis, while lock Ian Evans replaces Bradley Davies, who was ruled out after being felled by the now-banned Andrew Hore in Wales' 33-10 defeat by the All Blacks last weekend.
Ones to watch:
For Australia: The player making headlines this week out of Australia's camp is undoubtedly flank David Pocock, who makes his long awaited return to the Test arena. Above anyone else, the Wallabies chief pilferer could well be the real difference between the two sides. His presence also serves as a powerful motivating factor for the visitors – he's a strong leader, both through actions and words.
For Wales: Wales will be relying on Gethin Jenkins to bolster their scrum up front against the ever-improving Wallabies pack. The Toulon front-rower is a powerful scrummager and a strong ball-carrier, often enabling crucial front-foot ball through a solid hit or carry that forces the defence on their heels – handy attributes for any prop.
Head to head: The line-out tussle between Luke Charteris and Nathan Sharpe will be an interesting aerial duel with both tasked to nullify the other's influence. The vastly experienced Sharpe is never intimidated though and will be looking to end his long and distinguished career with a bang. Pocock's breakdown battle with Sam Warburton will also be a fierce contest. This match-up is a matter of the Wales skipper, who is starting to rediscover his form, doing really well if he can match the Aussie's work rate and effectiveness in the loose.
Recent results:
2012: Australia won 20-19, Sydney
2012: Australia won 25-23, Gold Goast
2012: Australia won 27-19, Brisbane
2011: Australia won 24-18, Cardiff
2011: Australia won 21-18, Auckland
2010: Australia won 25-16, Cardiff
2009: Australia won 3012, Cardiff
2008: Wales won 21-18, Cardiff
2007: Australia won 32-20, Cardiff
2007: Australia won 31-0, Brisbane
2007: Australia won 29-23, Sydney
2006: Match drawn 29-29, Cardiff
2005: Wales won 24-22, Cardiff
Prediction: This should be another close encounter with Australia creeping ahead before another Wales revival. But alas it will once again be too little too late for the hosts. Australia by five!
The teams:
Wales: 15 Leigh Halfpenny, 14 Alex Cuthbert, 13 Jonathan Davies, 12 Jamie Roberts, 11 Liam Williams, 10 Rhys Priestland, 9 Mike Phillips, 8 Toby Faletau, 7 Sam Warburton (c), 6 Aaron Shingler, 5 Luke Charteris, 4 Ian Evans, 3 Scott Andrews, 2 Matthew Rees, 1 Gethin Jenkins.
Replacements: 16 Ken Owens, 17 Ryan Bevington, 18 Samson Lee, 19 Ryan Jones, 20 Justin Tipuric, 21 Tavis Knoyle, 22 Dan Biggar, 23 Scott Williams.
Australia: 15 Berrick Barnes, 14 Nick Cummins, 13 Adam Ashley-Cooper, 12 Ben Tapuai, 11 Drew Mitchell, 10 Kurtley Beale, 9 Nick Phipps, 8 Wycliff Palu, 7 David Pocock, 6 Scott Higginbotham, 5 Nathan Sharpe, 4 Kane Douglas, 3 Ben Alexander, 2 Tatafu Polota Nau, 1 Benn Robinson.
Replacements: 16 Stephen Moore, 17 James Slipper, 18 Sekope Kepu, 19 Dave Dennis, 20 Michael Hooper, 21 Brendan McKibbin, 22 Mike Harris, 23 Digby Ioane.
Date: Saturday, December 1
Kick-off: 14:30 GMT
Venue: Millennium Stadium
Referee: Wayne Barnes (England)
Assistant referees: Romain Poite (France), Greg Garner (England)
Television match official: Marshall Kilgore (Ireland)


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The agreement between Edison Electric Institute (EEI) member companies and key federal agencies recognizes that utilities and land managers must work quickly and cooperatively to ensure effective management of vegetation near transmission corridors and other utility rights-of-way on federal lands.
During a ceremony hosted by the U.S. Department of Interior, Tom Kuhn, EEI president, reiterated that contact between a single tree and a transmission line is enough to initiate a major power disruption and electric utility crews must have timely access to rights-of-way on both public and private lands in order to address potential threats to electric reliability before they have a chance to become a problem. Kuhn and representatives from the U.S. Forest Service, Bureau of Land Management, Fish and Wildlife Service, National Park Service and the Environmental Protection Agency signed a memorandum of understanding (MOU) establishing a framework for developing cooperative vegetation-management practices between EEI member companies and federal land management agencies.
The MOU, the product of discussions between utilities and federal agencies that began in the late 1990s, is designed to address the often protracted and inconsistent processes under which utilities historically have sought permission to address vegetation-encroachment issues near utility infrastructure. Transmission line rights-of-way on federal lands are subject to multiple layers of jurisdiction and decision making, which hamper the ability of utilities to maintain vegetation that could grow into or fall through power lines, potentially resulting in electrical outages, sparking wildfires and presenting dangers to people and wildlife.
Over the past decade, vegetation contact with power lines has been identified as the cause of three large-scale power grid failures in the United States, including the Aug. 14, 2003, blackout that affected many Eastern states and portions of Canada. Since then, utility vegetation-management practices have received greater attention from federal regulators and Congress, which last year enacted mandatory reliability standards long sought by electric companies as part of the Energy Policy Act. The law requires federal agencies to expedite approvals of utility vegetation-management permit applications to help meet the new standards.
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At Starbucks, he'll sketch you, but just wants return to Italy
Every morning at 6 a.m. Gisberto "Bert" Bertucci rides a bus from Costa Mesa to the Starbucks at Coast Highway and Bayside Avenue in Newport Beach.
He has his spot. It's an L-shaped corner right by the window.
He sips hot tea and watches the sun come up. And then, he watches as early-morning caffeine seekers flood the store.
Bertucci, 70, is hard to miss. He's the man with the canvas hat, sunglasses and shock of silver hair flowing down his shoulders. And a smile that makes his entire face crease and crinkle.
The morning visitors at that Starbucks are more than mere acquaintances to him.
The bicyclist who likes to give him a hard time. A woman and her daughter who always say hello. The financial adviser who sits down for a chat. The lady with short, silver hair who stops by to flirt.
The sparkle in Bertucci's sapphire eyes seems even brighter when his cafe buddies approach him.
For Bertucci, home is more than 6,000 miles away in Pontecosi, an idyllic hamlet in the Tuscan province of Lucca in Italy, dotted by terracotta-roof buildings and churches, where the aroma of freshly baked bread wafted down narrow, cobblestone pathways.
But when he's sitting in his Starbucks corner, home feels "pretty close," he said.
Last Christmas, Bertucci decided to do something very special for his happy place – the one where everybody knew his name.
When Starbucks manager Vanessa Marquez put up a little tree in the store, it caught Bertucci's attention.
"It made me sad because it looked so bare, it had no life," he said. "I was remembering Christmas in Pontecosi. As kids we decorated the tree with whatever we got our hands on – apples, oranges, lighted candles. Whatever was on that tree – it came straight from our hearts."
Bertucci wanted that for this little Starbucks tree.
So, he did something he had never done before. He started sketching the faces of the regulars at the cafe on coffee cup lids. He watched them as they stood in line or sipped their coffee. What he saw and what he felt went on the lids.
And when he was done, they went up on the tree. Soon, the tree began to fill up with Bertucci's artwork. The lids drew the attention of Bertucci's eager subjects.
"Hey Bert, do one of me," they'd tell him. Some were persistent. They stopped and asked him every day when their lid would be done.
One by one, Bertucci drew them all and before he knew it, there were more than 100 coffee cup lids crowding the tree.
"I'm no artist," said Bertucci, who has spent most of his life as a drywall installer. "I only started drawing a few years ago."
But, he admits, he's a perfectionist.
"If what I feel inside in my heart doesn't show up on paper, then it's no good."
Bertucci did the sketches because this Christmas, he did not want to receive; he wanted to give, he said.
Bertucci started to notice something else. People who routinely ran out with their beverages stopped – even if it was for just a few seconds.
If Bertucci will take credit for an accomplishment, it is this – he made them stop, look and enjoy a piece of their own lives.
Bertucci was the youngest of three children. His father died when he was a year old. His grandfather was a farmer and his mother, a homemaker who, according to her youngest child, baked the best bread in the world.
As a young boy, all of Pontecosi was Gisberto's playground. He remembers picking mushrooms from the hilltops and hanging out in the neighborhood church. Bertucci remembers painting the church's tower when he was 16 years old. He stood in a 50-gallon oil barrel, which he then raised and lowered with ropes.
"I carried a paint can and brush going up and down," he recalled, laughing. "And then the wind blew and it got really shaky."
When he was 12, he fell in love with a neighbor girl, a blond-haired, blue-eyed beauty. One day, he saw her on the street and serenaded her. Those were simpler times.
After he finished high school, Bertucci's mother sent him to a technical school where he studied electrical installations.
On Aug. 21, 1965, when he was 23, Bertucci left his hometown for Canada where his brother and sister lived at the time.
"Why did I leave? I was on one side of the planet," he said. "I just wanted to see what's on the other side."
He lived in Canada until 1979 when he followed his girlfriend to Orange County. He stayed, although that relationship crumbled.
Bertucci never married after that.
"Why? Because I believe in marriage," he said, breaking out into his trademark guffaw. "If the right person doesn't come to you, if she doesn't chase you down, it just isn't meant to be. A marriage is not like having a boat or a Ferrari."
So, Bertucci lives in a camper on a lot in Costa Mesa where he grows zucchini, green beans, tomatoes and cabbage. He brings some of the produce to his Starbucks friends. He cooks his food. He still takes on a few odd jobs, he says. His only expenses are his bus trips to Starbucks and his onward journey to Laguna Beach where he spends a couple of hours each day playing chess on the boardwalk with whomever stops to play.
"It's a great place to meditate and reflect," he said.
There are two spots in Orange County that remind him of his little village in Tuscany: his corner in Starbucks and the chess table on the Laguna Beach boardwalk.
When the Starbucks Christmas tree came down, Marquez was left with more than 100 of the coffee cup lid portraits.
That's when Marc Foster, a financial consultant and one of Bert's most ardent admirers, came up with the idea to mount them on a frame and put it up on the wall as a way to honor Bertucci and their intimate Starbucks clan.
Foster asked Bertucci to make a self-portrait and write a note to go with the artwork. He wrote free verse, as always, from his heart:
"For my Starbucks Friends –
The tree looked naked
It had no personality, no life
So I wanted to give it a life
I wanted to make it our Starbucks tree
Not a corporate tree
Now the tree has a life
It has a message thanks to all of you
It has a message of Unity, Love, Peace, Serenity and Happiness."
Bertucci calls it the best thing that ever happened to him. People stop by to appreciate him, his work. Bertucci blushes every time. He is not used to high praise. The attention seems alien to him.
Bertucci's dream, however, is to return to his hometown.
"My heart is there," he said, clutching his chest.
He wonders what Pontecosi looks like now. He wonders what his old flame is up to, what new buildings have sprung and how the landscape has transformed.
His little brick home in the village is the center of his universe, no matter where he is on the planet, Bertucci said.
"When you close the paragraph of your life, you want to go home," he said. "It's like putting a period at the end of the paragraph."
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When we get greased we get hungover. When we get hungover we have unusual clarity of thought and 2 times out of 10 we get super vulnerable about stuff. This could be for a variety of reasons. Perhaps we have taken down a lady of questionable quality. Perhaps we threw a whisky bottle at a friend. Perhaps – well perhaps a variety of things Nation. We do a lot of questionable stuff.
Last night we went out and had ourselves a good ol' time. Why not – we have nothing to be excited about anymore. All is lost. Afterwards we came back to the crib and read our most beloved non pornographic website into the early morning. And we have come up with one vulnerable conclusion:
What in the hell are we doing with our life?
We started this website because we love the Oilers. When we say things like "we have an Oilers garbage can in our room that we have owned since we were 7" we mean it. If you told us "Wanye, stand in front of a Souray slapper and somehow time will reverse itself and the Oil will make the playoffs" we would do it in a heart beat. Why is this? We have no idea. Something must have broken in our seven year old head that makes us live and die with the powerplay of the local hockey squadron. We can't tell you when our Brother's birthday is. But we can tell you that Jason Soules was one of the worst draft picks in the last 25 years. He didn't even want to play the game professionally and still the Oilers drafted him in 1989. What the hell? Why do we know this?
Look what you have become "Wanye Gretz." We invented an acronym suggesting the coach – a grown man of unusual dedication to the city of Edmonton and it's citizens – be fired from his job. We call Dustin Penner – an obviously skilled but unhappy player – a Donair eating cylinder monkey. What the hell?
100 kidding points awarded
Let's not sit around and kid ourselves Nation. Probably half of the Oilers could give two squirts of rocket sauce about this City, it's fans or even really about the team itself. But before you get your gun and go looking for an undedicated Oiler know that this is the case all around the league. A lot of players view this as a job. A lucrative, groupie producing j-o-b. Gone are the days when a player will stick around here in the off season and his neighbor rebuild a fence over the summer. The instant the season ends most of these guys hop on a solid gold private jet and are summering in the South of France, eating truffles and drinking imported mineral water within 24 hours. That's just the way it is.
But you know who is here in the off season? By complete choice? Craig MacTavish and Kevin Lowe. Let's not kid ourselves here. These guys could be pretty much anywhere in the league, doing the same job and making the same money. They don't have to put up with the snow and the lack of urban density in the downtown core if they don't want to. They could be living in the Big Apple eating sushi with Keith Urban seven nights a week if they wanted. Instead they choose to live here in Edmonton and consider the South Side Keg to be a fancy place to take the Wife – just like we all do. Do we ever give them credit for sticking with it for as long as they have? Of course not.
Ales Kotalik was traded here and had no choice in the matter. Kevin Lowe returned here from the Big Apple to set up shop, build a mansion on the frozen tundra and do his best to make the team he unquestionably loves – a champion once again. MacTavish too. Let's be honest – no one can question their dedication. Results? Sure. But in an era when most people view the NHL as a paycheck to fund their Faberge egg habit these guys care a little more about you, me and the City of Edmonton than we give them credit for.
Know who else cares? Ethan Moreau. We know this for a fact. Don't think it just kills him that the Oil are going to miss the playoffs for the third time in a row and the second under his Captaincy? And what do we do? We tell him to hit the bricks. Steve Staios cares. Jason Strudwick cares too. Sam Gagner too cares bless his little heart.
And how do we repay them? By ragging on them mercilessly and demanding they be replaced with more high priced free agents who want to get the hell out of here at every opportunity.
100 more kidding points awarded
We have a sneaking suspicion that we are all kidding ourselves when we think we are the best fans in the league. With the exception of the Cup run, we collectively ride the Oilers harder than O'Sullivan's dad when he was in Pee Wee. 99 minutes out of 100 we are filled with unbridled hatred and the other 1 minute we are irrationally euphoric and going through Sheldon Souray's garbage to see what kind of gel he uses. Know what that makes us? Good fans? No.
Insane stalkers. That's what it makes us.
Things are clearly broken here in E-town. This team leads the league in least bang for your buck. The players in the room that care the most aren't capable of scoring eleven goals in the third period and leading us to victory. The players that are capable of this feat don't care enough to get off their platinum asses and do it with the season on the line. So what do we do? We learn the wrong lessons and rail road the well meaning role players and management out of town. We cheer loudly when a player comes into town hoping that this is going to be "the guy." Then when he isn't the guy we turn on him too. Then we collectively blame the weather when they demand to leave.
Ask yourself the hard questions Nation. Look your bloodshot eyes in the face and really ask yourselves these questions:
- Of everyone collecting a pay cheque from Kay-Z this season – who is the most dedicated to the team we collectively love? Outside of a handful of players in the room who really cares about restoring this team to the glory of years ago? Is it the 20 something millionaire that can't wait to get his last paycheck of the season so he can go to Kelowna and ball like a member of G-Unit? Or is it the two middle aged men who still get up in the morning, look at the frozen wasteland that is our City and think "yep. This is where I want to be. This place used to be the shit and it I could make it awesome again." The only the only people in the league who will ever think this way are the same people we are demanding get boxed up and shipped the F out of town.
- Lame ass audio clips aside - are we really holding up our end of the bargain as fans? We have watched games in a great many arenas now. Half of the fans in Anaheim are just excited to see ice for heavens sakes. They don't care about the coach making third line players into grinders. Hell they don't even know what a grinder is. They stand up at the weirdest points to cheer. They all look confusedly at each other when icing is called. We sit and scream at one another how a guy that is on pace to score 17 goals should be sent to the ECHL where he play third string goalie. You know, to teach him a lesson. Are we really the best fans in the league?
- Would you want to play here in Edmonton if you were in the NHL? The cheques cash the same all over the league playboy.
We pride ourselves on ripping on the Oil whenever we get the urge. We get a special little thrill every time one of you good people join in, comment on an article or send us an email. We are thunderstruck at the popularity of this website and that real journalists like Robin Brownlee and Jason Gregor have humored our little business and treat this thing seriously. And what do we do the instant we have the privilege of being able to address our fellow Oilers fans? Things like this:
"It is you who is letting us down Edmonton Oilers. Get that very, very clear in your collective minds."
And who are we again to talk like this? Nobody? Oh that's right. Nobody.
A MacT/K-Lowe-less future
This team is clearly broken. The statement we have heard is that "this is going to be the busiest off season in the history of the Oilers." Who is going to come back here and replace the departing folk? More high priced players who don't really give a shit? When MacTavish leaves and Kevin Lowe finally decides "screw this. I have shaved a good ten years off my life for this team and for this City. I'm going to assemble a kick ass sword collection and mail it in" who are we left with? Will anyone in power even remember when it was expected to win a Cup in this City?
When they go, so goes the last link to the Oilers expecting to be a contender year in and year out. Then it's going to be a bunch of hired guns who collect the cheque and the only link to better days will be that dented Oilers garbage can in our room.
Damn right Wayne and i've been saying it for years now. Mac T and K Lowe are the guys who put the "oiler" in that locker room.
However, FMNF.
April 02 2009, 10:50AM
Slow clap for you Wanye.
Don't get too down and don't be too hard on the fans Wayne. Sure we're hard on the team, coaches and management, but that's because we care. This is also the case with all great franchises in professional sports. Do you think Ranger fans are any better? If they are, it's only because they have 7 pro sports franchises in town to direct their angst towards. We only have one (I don't count AA baseball or CFL, sorry).
Fans at Manchester United riot when they're upset. A soccer player from Uruguay (I think) was killed after scoring an own-goal in a World Cup qualifier. Rider fans dumped manure on the lawn of their field goal kicker. The list goes on...
When you play for passionate, caring, and knowledgable fans you take the bad with the good, and unfortunately right now is a bad time. It WILL get better and will be that much more enjoyable after we've had to struggle to get there. Have faith Oil Nation, have faith.
April 02 2009, 10:59AM
Fun sidepoint: the fans don't really matter. Detroit, for example, doesn't even sell out their building, but they're doing just fine.
What were you drinking last night? Whatever it was, it sure brought about a dramatic change. I must admit to you that I've been pretty taken aback by some of your rabid posts lately, but I too have been calling for a cleansing of all things related to the glory days lately. However, after reading John Mackinnon, Terry Jones and your own column this morning, I must admit that I too am having second thoughts about any upcoming purge. Mactavish and Lowe do care greatly and are here by choice, the young millionaires probably not. There are no easy answers. Would Marc Crawford, Guy Carbonneau or Pat Quinn bring much of a different approach?
The one thing I can say is that people do get tired of hearing the same voice over and over. I'm a teacher and had to work in a school where I taught the same group of kids multiple subjects, in consecutive years. I got to the point where I was sick of them, had no patience with them, and if I'm honest with myself, did not give them the benefit of the doubt the way I would to students whom I had just met a few months earlier. And maybe more importantly, they got tired of my act even quicker than I did of theirs. To me this is what's happened with our hockey team. If I had to guess, I would say that many of the vets have tired of the same voice, speeches, and gameplans over the years. They've become complacent - frustrated - uncaring (or all three) and it's rubbed off on the young players, affecting the whole group.
Is firing the coaching staff the answer? I don't know. However, if we do fire MacT and his replacement is no better, deep down we will probably miss him. Just my two cents.
I really don't know how to feel about this right now. Shame? Pride? Regret?
I'm gonna have a good think, a cry, and rub one out. That usually sets things straight.
I don't think anyone doubts the commitment of Lowe and MacT, but this is business. The results aren't there and most of the blame should go onto those players who are not living up to the value of their contract, MacT and Lowe (Lowe in particular) have made a number of poor decisions in the last couple years that will hinder the team's development in the future and need to be held accountable. There is no guarantee that the team will be better with different management or coaching, but it is worth the effort to try.
With the recession tightening everyone's wallets we will start to see empty seats next year and Katz will need to show fans he is committed to trying to build a winning team. Loyalty only goes so far.
Are you actually inferring that no one has the heart or the conviction to do the same job that k-lowe and mactavish do? Because if you are we are no better than the board of governors for GM. I commend them both men for their dedication to the organization, but the very same thing was said when Slats left, and how well has he done?
April 02 2009, 11:38AM
You know who else had heart... DJ Laraque. Maybe he wants a coaching job?
You know who else had heart? Curt Brackenbury.
And lungs too. I daresay all the major vital organs.
Good times.
I was almost expecting a note at the bottom of this post saying "From the desk of Patrick Laforge." Heh heh.
But seriously, you have a pretty decent point there Wanye. Although I wouldn't take the cross-section of fan responses here as a large-sample representation of fans here in Edmonton. Every game I'm at, most are just happy to be in their seats, politely sitting on their hands and ordering 3L cokes and chips for their kids. And those $250 jerseys are always flying out of the Oilers store on the mezzanine (to my utter amazement).
Gretz, I'm not really a fan of your work but your last two articles (is that the right word?) have been fantastic. You bring up some great points, especially about how the fans are shitting all over people who truly care about this city and its hockey fans. And your right, in this day and age that is truly rare and commendable.
The fans have changed a little bit this season. While I dont judge the fans, we have become crusty and resentful. If I were a little more articulate, I would compare Oilers fans to a jilted lover after a great five year relationship has gone horribly wrong. The most important thing that Oilers fans need to do, is just start enjoying the game again. Overanalyzing the team is fun and part of the game's appeal but I think when we all become these furious, holier than thou armchair GM's, part of the magic is lost.
Do you propose that this sad-sack NHL hockey franchise continues to go forward with Kevin Lowe and Craig MacTavish considering their performances over the past 8 years? (Clearly, they were not volunteers.) Can we expect a different outcome with the same cast again next season? Will you accept another 11th or 12th finish net year? Do you expect the fans to continue to pay really big bucks for the brand of entertainment that has been offered over the past three years? Do you expect sponsors to shell out big bucks next season to the Oil when the entertainment value of the product is unsatisfactory and their companies are laying off staff/workers? Would you object to see someone like Brent Sutter the HC next year with Tambellini being the real GM? The answers to these questions are probably NO, NO, NO, NO, NO and NO. Do we still think Kevin Lowe and Craig MacTavish are good people and desirable Edmonton citizens, definitely YES. But the two different sets of questions are mutually exclusive. On behalf of the fans, it is time for Darryl Katz to move on in a different direction. In the end, it is the fans that really own the franchise because without the fans' solid support there wouldn't be an Edmonton Oilers. Wanye, get over it.
I think MacT is an intelligent man, but he has lost his mojo here. Being a coach in the NHL has a short shelf life. His time is up shortly.
Oh, and Kevin Lowe needs to move on too.
Feeling are a big part of life, but assess the management performance by the results, please!
April 02 2009, 11:52AM
I watched drunken Ajax Amsterdam fans getting in fights with each other in the subway a couple of weeks ago, and this was on the way TO the game, before it even started.
NHL players, by and large, have no idea what "really" living in a [their sport]-crazed city.
You have to be the most patient person in the world not to get upset at your favorite team when they disappoint you so consistently.
This is the logo that has meant so much to you over the last 10, 20, 30 years. You shared in the glory of five cups and felt like we won the cup when our shitty little team of plumbers beat Dallas in round one so many years ago. Your wife still busts your chops 'cause you wept like a baby when Messier retired (not during the ceremony, but when you knew it was his last game,) but not at your wedding.
Yet, when you shuffle in to Rexall Place, or sit catatonically in front of the TV, so hopefully; and emerge having received an emotional shit-kicking, it's so hard to keep you shit together and not get mad at anybody. That's where you've got to feel bad for the easy targets like Penner and MacT. They're the equivalent of our collective stress ball.
I'm usually the last of the Oiler fans I know to get negative or criticize the team. But, when I do, there's a little part of me that calls me a hypocrite, that asks me where my loyalty is. 'Cause, no matter what, I know I'm going to be glued to my set tonight so hopefully and so positively. Expecting them to pull it out of the fire one more time, like they have for 29 years.
And if they don't (something we don't even want to think about?) We'll be following this team on the web all summer, looking for something, anything, that resembles news in a woefully slow hockey news season; and speculating positively about what will be done to make them the team we want them to be. It's what we do...we're Oiler fans.
April 02 2009, 11:53AM
DonDon wrote:
Wanye, get over it.
Get over it. Yeah DonDon I have been preaching this new angle for what all of 2 hours?
I can see how you must get tired of me defending MacTavish and Lowe all day long.
Signed, The guy who invented FMNF
April 02 2009, 11:53AM
IS LIKE, dammit.
"NHL players, by and large, have no idea what "really" living in a [their sport]-crazed city IS LIKE."
*looks around for the edit post button, doesn't find it, shotguns a bud light instead*
The redwings play for their teammates, and have an owner who shows loyalty to his players.
Success breeds fan complacency. In the dynasty days, nobody bothered to come for the first 2 playoff rounds knowing we would demolish Calgary and Winnipeg before meeting the Norris pigeon enroute to the Grail.
Detroit's constant success and cratered economy play a wee factor in their attendance.
as for club culture, The Illitch's hands-on approach has worked in cultivating the good kind of "old boys" network, where the star players stay to work and Gordie Howe is always welcome. We get occasional "Boys on the Bus" reunions and the plumbers from those teams now run a hockey club stocked full of sensitive thoroughbreds and treated like subservient pack mules.
Chin up, old buddy. If we hadn't spent the 80's in love with the Oilers while the recession killed our economy, and spent a bit more time loving our city instead, perhaps we all wouldn't be breaking our backs right now trying to make this a world-class city. Hey, it's how we roll here. We love hockey, always will. High standards were set, and we expect a good brand of entertainment.
The Oilers right now are a struggling team, who don't seem to want to play for themselves or their unbelievably loyal fans. We've come a long way in the shadows, through the crucible of Peter Puck's death throes as owner, where the fans literally took emotional ownership of the team and the EIG pooled together to save the last WHA franchise.
In fact the organization REMEMBERS the fans for their support, hence the PleaVideo from earlier this week; you know Gagner, Gilbert, Shelly and Cogliano would love to feel the playoff buzz here.
Our owner shows loyalty to his management. Management doesn't win anything, and without 6 or 7 of the best hockey players in history, they wouldn't have won squat in their playing careers. KLowe came out at City Hall after the SCF'06 and called the season a "failure". It's been all downhill since for him, sad but true.
Remember, it's entertainment. Wanye's namesake put us on the international map, and we should shine out at the hockey world. I'm gonna sing the anthem, hope O'Sullivan drills Michalek at the blueline, size up Cheechoo for his Oiler jersey next season and cheer until I'm hoarse.
"Buy the ticket, take the ride" HST
PS - the only regrets I have as a fan is a few things I've yelled at Dallas players. They would be tame to what Chicago and Ranger fans yell at their own players.
April 02 2009, 11:55AM
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that youve hit rock bottom this morning. Listen to yourself man! Dedication is exactly what MacT has but cant get out of his players anymore. It's ok to thank MacT for his service but move on, and it doesnt make anyone less of a fan. MacT and K-Lowe cant lace-em up and play anymore, so its up to them to develop and maintain the culture of dedication that is clearly missing. Yes thats on the players, but a bad handiman blames his tools.
Youre just going through the spectrum of emotions that most of us are going through in this grieving process. Soon that guilt will switch over to pleading or some crap, by the draft you'll be ready to freak right out on the Oilers for drafting the kid with the bad hip from some third rate American highschool that wasnt even on the top 100 rated players with the 10th overall pick.
That imaginary AK-47 might not be fired today, but soon your upstairs neighbours will be complaining about the imaginary bullets that keep ripping up their floor boards.
April 02 2009, 11:55AM
I'm not really sure I understand your point. I'll agree that Kevin Lowe and MacT have an undying alligence to this city which I respect with all my being, but I don't think that takes away anything from the fact that they aren't, or haven't been very good at their jobs. Same goes for Moreau. He gives it 100 percent every shift, and I'm sure he's an insanely good captain in the room, but from a fan stand point I'd much rather have someone who can consistantly get 40 points and not take 4 bad penalties a game in his spot.
And what's your position on the fans? Are you saying we are in the wrong for being fed up with not having any success for 19 years? That we should go out there and praise every player regardless of how good or bad they are just because they are wearing an Oilers jersey? I'm pretty sure that's not your point but that's just how I interpreted it.
April 02 2009, 12:00PM
And youre a day late for April Fools!
April 02 2009, 12:01PM
I personally hate to see some of the personal crap that gets tossed at MacTavish and Lowe. It's over the line, and unfair.
That said, I have a statement to make which I think is true:
A manager in any position (be it GM, coach, president, whatever) who does not produce results should be fired. History with the team is irrelevant, except insofar as it produces results.
Homie wrote:
MacT and Lowe (Lowe in particular) have made a number of poor decisions in the last couple years that will hinder the team's development in the future and need to be held accountable.
I don't know if I can really fault Lowe all that much. Some of his harshest criticism has come from the Penner offer sheet, but at the time we were lacking size and scoring up front, so he signed a young 6' 4" Canadian boy with 29 goals in his second year. It looked like a good move at the time.
Ryan Smyth he has admitted was a mistake.
So to prevent making the same error he signs Horcoff long term. Horcoff was playing like a first line centre before his injury so he got paid like one. This year he has played differently.
Everyone wanted a first line left winger, so he went after Hossa. His boss told him to. Lost in the balance was GlenX. Can't really fault him there either. Given a choice between Hossa and GlenX I would pick Hossa too.
He was supposed to get a gritty winger to play with Hemsky... so he brings in Cole who supposedly has good hands. Again no dice.
Players keep coming to Edmonton and underperforming here in comparison to how they played int he past... or they go to other teams after we have developed them and absolutely shine. That does not point to the GM... it points to the coach. I am sure MacT is a swell guy and really cares about he organization, but I think it is time for a change. I don't think MacT will eb fired. i am sure he hates losing as much as we hate watching him lose and will step down, or go in another direction.
I have never had a problem with Ex-oilers moving into positions of power. It is no different than Sutters showing up everywhere in the league. They just have to be successful and if they aren't, then proceed accordingly.
I'm starting to wonder if I should tell my hot sisters to stay away from this emo dude............you seemed like a winner, save the whole cardboard house thingie.
April 02 2009, 12:10PM
@ risto:
Emo. That's rich.
And as to your sisters I referred to them specifically at the start of this article as another reason I have been vulnerable in the past.
I have to agree.....to a certain point. However, I fork over $6000 a year to this team for my seats, and I expect to at least be entertained for that kind of dough. I'm not asking that they win 82 games a season, but I do ask for a good show. I help pay their damn salaries, so don't tell me that I'm nobody when it comes time to answer the bell. Don't tell me it's my fault for not cheering loud enough at the games. If they want to keep blaming me for their faults, I can just as easily take my $6000 and by my wife and myself a damn nice holiday every year.
April 02 2009, 12:18PM
Wanye Gretz wrote:
And as to your sisters I referred to them specifically at the start of this article as another reason I have been vulnerable in the past.
@ Jonathan Willis:
exactly right. i may love the company i work for, work long hours, and try really hard but ultimately if i completely suck at my job i'm going to get fired.
also, i think the only true sin in the eyes of edmonton fans is lack of effort. we'll cheer for any team as long as they never give up. down 27-0? fight! throw a hit! block a shot! throw a cooler on the ice! anything!
April 02 2009, 12:23PM
Wayne, Detroit will beat St.Louis, Anahein will fall to the Canucks(even though it pains me greatly to cheer for them),the Mighty Oil will pevail over the Sharks and we will be only a point out, hope will be renewed and we will all feel a little bit happier. Couple that with some more of that Zoolander tea you must have consumed last night and you're rollin again....
Reasign MacT to President of Oiler Traditions.
Roli usually has a bounce back game after a poor performance. so go Oiler go
April 02 2009, 12:28PM
@ Don Murdochs Hair:
From your lips to the Gods ears. You always know just what to say to me Don Murdochs Hair.
@ Sandra:
Now THAT is funny.
Sandra wrote:
Roli usually has a bounce back game after a poor performance. so go Oiler go
I'm not sure Roli is aware when one game ends and another one begins.
J.D.Desjarlais might be a Mason, too bad we will never really know, if Roli loses it I would like to see what he can do. At least we will know for next year.
I agree totally that KLowe and MacT are the biggest hearts in the organisation. I totally disagree that fans can't express their displeasure in the team they put together.
I am with Willis in that alot of this is over the line/classless/lunacy totally removed from reality/weird, but I do think that comes in the job description. And I even think that those two guys would give the fans that right, even defend their right to do it.
Still, the results have to come or something needs to change. And I believe the organisation has been very patient in allowing these guys enough rope to do what they want (a lot more than in Philly/Boston/Montreal/Tampa/etc.).
Lets give them a great thank you when they leave, and start speculating now about what next season looks like.
'Cause being hopeful is what a fan does too.
Hey, have you heard anything about this Omark kid? Supposed to be good .......
Cam wrote:
Players keep coming to Edmonton and underperforming here in comparison to how they played int he past… or they go to other teams after we have developed them and absolutely shine. That does not point to the GM… it points to the coach.
First, I don't think Penner was that bad of a signing. MacT hasn't handled him very well, but he creates offensive chances for the players he is on the ice with and is a real asset on the PP.
Horcoff's signing was terrible. He has a history of inconsistency - one good year then one bad - and he is following that pattern this season. I would have had no problem with a long term signing with a cap hit of 3.5 to 4, not 5.5. He is an excellent second line centre but is now being paid like a first liner.
On the other side, Hemsky's contract is a steal and the Souray signing has been good value this year.
Can you show examples of players who have left here and "shone" other places? I can think of a couple - Lupul and Chimera. And I'm sure you can find these kind of examples for every team, so unless you can show it happens with the Oilers here more than most other teams, this argument doesn't hold water.
April 02 2009, 12:54PM
@ Wanye Gretz:
Anyone can love working for a company, but if they're not doing their job the company doesn't need to love them back.
If you think we're bad here... Calgary fans wanted Iginla gone after his slow start, Montreal is ready to burn the city down, Vancouver was all over Luongo when he was bed sh*tting, Toronto fans boo relentlessly every single game, same with Ottawa. We're no worse, brother Wanye.
Kevin Lowe may love this city and this team, but he crippled it by paying Steve Staios $3 million/per, trading draft picks for an inflatted Penner contract, and handing wolf eyes first line centerman's money.
Love for the team is great, but performing your job is more important.
April 02 2009, 12:56PM
Sandra wrote:
J.D.Desjarlais might be a Mason, too bad we will never really know, if Roli loses it I would like to see what he can do. At least we will know for next year.
Exactly like Mason, except... older... with mediocre AHL numbers... and inferior junior numbers.
Wayne, just because your pack-mule did a great job and worked day in day out for you for 10 years doesn't mean you let him keep working after it's clear he can't get the job done. Your old dog Daisy, she would run and chase the ball until she'd pass out and would never let you down but at some point, that old dog needs a rest and eventually will need to be replaced by a new dog that will run and chase until they pass out. If we never let go of our pack-mules and old dogs we'd still be cheering for Bucky to successfully complete his one-handed-inside-outside move and hope that Ryan Smyth gets the rebound and Big George and Gator double team some poor stupid Flame. All of these guys were better people and community guys than hockey players and we loved them for it and won't forget them but when it's broken, you fix it. The Oilers right now is broken.
Damnit...Wanye not Wayne.
That's twice now.
Just because they care and want to be here does not mean they should be. Fans want and deserve a winning team, not an underachieving team we should be content with just because the coach/gm want to be here.
@ Wanye Gretz: *wipes away tear and double taps chest with fist*
@ Mike: Anyone know what place they are on the Season Seat Registry waiting list? I know people that have been on the list since it was started. You're not that important Mike. Show some spirit.
Dude. Your article makes me feel like I should go give MacT and Lowe a hug. I thought Mac was the bomb when I went to the old Craig Mactavish-Charlie huddy Hockey Camp back in the day... but now? It's just not working.
Why did they do this to themselves? Why couldn't they simply have retired before becoming lepers?
I can't understand why MacTavish and Lowe have driven themselves to the point of being scorned in public, when they could have pulled out a few years ago and been the B-List Edmonton Celebrities that people come home and tell their kids that they saw in the grocery store... Y'know, like more important versions of Gizmo Williams.
I don't want to see them driven out of town, but I don't want to see the Oilers lose anymore. Mac and Lowe, please just move up to nominal cushy positions and bask in your (deservedly) glorious past without f*cking up the future anymore. You deserve it. So do we
One love. Word.
April 02 2009, 01:35PM
I'm only responding to Wanye's twitter account on here because I'm too lazy to learn about Twitter, but...
Wanye, do you read the Sun on a regular basis? The sunshine girls are men in drag 90% of the time. Whoever choses those ladies is probably that creepy foreign guy who keeps eye contact with you just a second too long all the time and smiles oddly when the big girl in the office adjusts her Lulu Lemon pants.
@ Wanye Gretz: Thanks for putting my dads picture on your post. I know he'll really appreciate it...
I'm no hockey genius. In fact I'll admit that I haven't been any more than a fair-weather fan until this season. But I've been quite dedicated this season, following games and reading blogs.
And I've always been disappointed in the attitude on this site. Ever so rarely has anyone really sounded like a fan.
No, we're not Detroit. Nor would I be an Oilers fan if we were like Detroit. Who wants to watch hockey robots win games as if programmed for success instead talented players with a passion for the game? (Allow me this exaggeration)
I don't think the Oilers are going to win a cup merely on fan support. But maybe everyone will feel better, fans and players alike, if we realize we've got an exciting team with lots of potential in a City rich with history and dedicated supporters. We saw it come to fruition in the Cup run.
So, I agree, lay off the criticism a bit. And next year when the Oilers struggle again, stick with them so they don't have to make a desperate plea for fan support.
Reminiscing hurts even more when you don't have current playoff berths to obsess over.
I don't care where guys came from but I do care about being able to watch my own club in the playoffs.


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Gil and Heidi Bowden of Ferron, announce the marriage of their daughter Brindy, to Michael R. Grange, son of Dell and Beneta Grange of Salem, formerly of Cleveland, on Oct. 26 in the Mount Timpanogos LDS Temple.
A reception will be held in their honor that evening at South Camp, 945 South State Street in Ferron from 6-8 p.m.
Brindy and Michael graduated from Emery High School. Brindy served an LDS Mission in the Montevideo Uruguay Mission and Michael served an LDS Mission in the Philippines Angeles Mission.
Grandparents of the bride are Keith and Beth Winn, and Marvin and Elva Bowden. Grandparents of the groom are Deloris and the late Anthony Marvidikis and the late Dell and Thelda L. Grange.


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School SleuthThe Case of the Wired Classroom | Tuesday, 8 p.m.
Hear from the "School Sleuth" (John Merrow) about the uses and misuses of technology in America's classrooms. The film noir character does his sleuthing in schools in California, Arizona, Pennsylvania, Oregon, New York, New Jersey and elsewhere.
Concussion: Answers in the Blood?Tuesday | 9 p.m.
CONCUSSION: ANSWERS IN THE BLOOD? tells the intertwined story of the promising research undertaken by two University of Montana scientists ? Drs. Tom Rau and Sarj Patel ? and the real experiences of two athletes: Payton Agnew, a university women's soccer player, and Bridger Skillicorn, a member of a high school football team recovering from concussions. Concussion awareness is on the rise and current diagnostic protocols are improving, however, concussion identification still relies heavily on observed symptoms and self-reporting by athletes. Now, a team of scientists is attempting to develop a blood test to provide a definitive determination. Drs. Tom Rau and Sarg Patel, from the University of Montana's Department of Biomedical and Pharmaceutical Sciences in the Skaggs School of Pharmacy, are in the early stages of promising research to discover biomarkers in the blood that indicate how the brain reacts following a traumatic brain injury. The one-hour documentary tracks a year of Rau and Patel's research and findings, and the quest for funding to continue their work, while also following the athletes and trainers as they navigate the current concussion protocol.
Grand CentralAn American Treasure | Wednesday, 9 p.m.
The history of New York City's Grand Central Station is explored.
Notice to WEIU Viewers with DirecTV Service
We're reaching out to you today because of an urgent issue that is impacting your ability to view WEIU programs. DirecTV has recently relocated one of its satellite receivers to an AT&T building in Decatur, which was formerly located in Springfield.
Normally, this would not be an issue, as Decatur is still in our market as defined by the FCC. However, WEIU signals do not reach this location in Decatur with the minimum quality required by the DirecTV.
As a result, DirecTV has dropped WEIU from its satellite carriage — and viewers who have previously been able to receive our unique programming like Being Well, City Spotlight, The Paw Report, NewsWatch can now no longer watch these programs at home.
As part of a must-carry agreement, DirecTV is required to fund any expenses we would incur in providing them our signal if this relocation happened before a normal renewal cycle (which it has) ... unfortunately, this doesn't seem to be happening.
This is why we need your help. Please reach out to DirecTV and request that it carries WEIU — let them know how important it is for this channel to come back in your viewing area. Please call DirecTV at 1-855-802-3473 and let them know that WEIU is an educational programming asset in your community and you can't afford to lose it.
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Favorite Show on WEIU: I have a 2-year-old, so we're really getting into Super Why and Word World. My personal favorite is a lot of our local programming because it really connects me to our community. On the national side, I'm starting to get into Downton Abbey!
What have you learned while working at WEIU?: What haven't I learned!? WEIU has taught me about valuing my community. WEIU has taken me places I never thought I would go (like an underground river for Heartland Highways). I have learned that not only is WEIU great, quality programming, but the people behind it really believe in the mission too.
Why should someone become a member of WEIU? Everyone should become a member of WEIU. I'm a member. If you value educational programming, information straight from your own backyard, and family-friendly TV, then WEIU is for you. You should know, too, that everyone behind the scenes here at the station really believes in what we do too. For us, it's personal. We're a family and we're always looking to expand, so come be a part of our story!
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Harold Good - Our Story Bonus Feature
Harold Good tells about Indians and other early settlers near Arcola.
Harold would love for you to tune in to Effingham: This is Our Story on Thursday, Oct. 2, at 7 p.m. We hope you'll join us!
Larry Bushu - Our Story Bonus Feature
Larry Bushu tells about some of the unique coffee cups owned by members of the Coffee Club in Arcola.
Larry would love for you to tune in to Effingham: This is Our Story on Thursday, Oct. 2, at 7 p.m. We hope you'll join us!


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The non-armed version of the Skovby SM 59 metal dining chair, the SM 58 is endowed with all the fabric and leather options Skovby offers. Choose leather for luxury, or cloth to add your personal taste to the chair. Sit in comfort and style, and accessorize your wood table with a beautifully contrasting metal chair.
- 2-way curved padded back and seat for comfort
- Brushed steel frame
- Durable fabric and leather options
- Pairs well with Skovby's SM 32 and SM 24 dining tables
The Skovby Dining Chair SM 58 is sold as a set of 2 chairs; pricing shown is for the set.
Materials & Measurements
Seat and Back: Upholstered MDF
Legs and Frame: Stainless brushed steel
Overall: 36" h x 18" w x 21" d
Seat Height: 18"
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Because this item is large and heavy and because we love our customers, we have decided to upgrade shipping from curbside to inside delivery at no extra cost to you. When your order reaches the local station in your area, the delivery agent will call to schedule a four hour delivery appointment. The driver will carefully bring the item inside the first room of your home or office so that you do not have to!
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Q: How many chairs are in a set?
A: Each purchase of one set includes two chairs.
Q: What should I expect when my chair arrives?
- Chair size and weight: 36" h x 18" w x 21" d; 15.43 lbs.
- Assembly: No assembly is required.
- Floor protection: This chair has metal legs with plastic caps. Be careful when moving it, or place floor-protecting pads on the bottoms of the legs to ensure that your floor is not marked or damaged.
Q: How should I care for my textile chair?
- Vacuum clean often, at least once per week
- Non-greasy stains may be removed by rubbing gently with a clean cloth wrung out in mild soapy water; wipe the surface with a clean cloth wrung out in warm water
- Do not rub or brush micro-fiber materials when they are wet
- Stain removers should only be used after testing the reaction on a small, inconspicuous spot
- Rub gently towards the center of the stain using circular movements to avoid discoloration
- Never use stain removers if there is latex foam padding under the upholstery
- As with any piece of upholstered furniture, we recommend that you use caution when near it with sharp objects (i.e., don't sit in the chair with scissors in your pocket).
Q: How should I care for my leather chair?
- Wipe with a clean soft cloth
- When slightly soiled, wipe the whole surface with a clean soft cloth wrung out in demineralized or cold boiled water; wipe dry quickly to avoid blotches
- When absolutely necessary, wipe the whole surface with a clean soft cloth wrung out in mild soap water; wipe dry immediately
- Spilled liquids must be wiped off immediately
- Do not vacuum, as this may scratch the surface
- Spot remover or cleaning solutions should not be used
- As with any piece of upholstered furniture, we recommend that you use caution when near it with sharp objects (i.e., don't sit in the chair with scissors in your pocket).
If you have additional questions regarding Smart Furniture's policies in general, please see our FAQs page.
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There is a 5-year limited warranty on Skovby chairs for normal use and on the gluing/joints. There is a 2-year limited warranty on Skovby upholstery.
Skovby's warranty covers products that were manufactured after January 1, 2007. Minor variations will occur between floor samples, swatches, printed illustrations, and items ordered. Skovby's warranty does not cover a product sold "as is" or purchased from any source other than an authorized Skovby retailer. Any product modification will void this warranty. Any product that is exposed to extreme temperatures, humidity, or misuse will not be covered under the warranty. Transportation costs in connection with product repair of defects will not be covered by the warranty.


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Let go of the wheel, and let your car do the driving. How much do you know about autonomous cars? Test your knowledge of these driverless vehicles by taking this quiz.
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Question 1 of 30
Ultimately, speed limits for autonomous cars may be what?
Their precision and attentiveness mean they could potentially go faster.
about the same as manual cars
Question 2 of 30
Autonomous cars can drive without what?
human commands
The computer is the brain that guides these vehicles.
Question 3 of 30
About how many people die every year in car crashes?
1 million
Many of those deaths could be prevented by automated cars.
Question 4 of 30
Autonomous cars will most likely appear in which market first?
fleet vehicles
Corporate economics may help push the automation of fleet vehicles long before consumer versions become common.
consumer vehicles
military vehicles
Question 5 of 30
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration lists how many technological levels for autonomous cars?
Level zero requires human control and level four is completely autonomous.
Question 6 of 30
What is the lowest vehicle automation level at which a human can let the robotic car do all the driving?
level three
At level three the car has autopiloting capabilities, but it still has a steering wheel and pedals for human control. This is called the limited self-driving automation level.
level four
level two
Question 7 of 30
Google's autonomous car probably will not have what feature?
steering wheel
That way you won't grab the steering wheel in a panic.
emergency stop button
Question 8 of 30
Which car feature is an example of a level-one robotic capability?
laser beams
robotic steering
automatic braking
Some high-end cars already have the automatic braking feature.
Question 9 of 30
In which decade did engineers begin experimenting with self-driving cars?
Engineers began working on self-driving cars in the 1920s. It's an old concept that's taken many years to realize.
Question 10 of 30
Why did Google add cushioned materials to the front of its driverless car?
to allow drivers to play bumper cars
to protect pedestrians
Hurting a pedestrian would be the worst type of publicity for these cars.
to reduce the severity of head-on collisions
Question 11 of 30
How many lidar (light detection and ranging) lasers did the first Google car contain?
The 64 lasers helped the car "see" pictures of the world around it.
Question 12 of 30
Why did the first injurious accident involving a Google driverless car occur?
The driver of the Google car fell asleep.
The Google car malfunctioned.
Another driver ran into the car.
Another driver ran into the Google car. In every self-driving car accident, of which there have been few, humans were at fault.
Question 13 of 30
About how many car accidents happen each year in the United States?
2 million
5 million
10 million
Developers are certain that robotic cars reduce those 10 million accidents.
Question 14 of 30
Which agency sparked autonomous car development using a highly publicized race?
Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA)
The first DARPA race took place in 2004.
Question 15 of 30
What year did Google launch its autonomous car project?
Since 2008 the company has been working hard on new prototype vehicles.
Question 16 of 30
How many dual-core servers did the Cornell University team need to operate its vehicle in DARPA's 2007 Urban Challenge race?
The Cornell University team used 17 serves, but another team used a single Mac Mini.
Question 17 of 30
The first electric Google car had a range of how many miles?
One hundred miles was just far enough to be useful for several urban trips.
Question 18 of 30
How many elements does the Mercedes Attention Assist feature use to monitor a human's driving quality?
The system uses 70 elements to sense driver inattentiveness. If it detects driver fatigue, it will alert you immediately.
Question 19 of 30
The lowered accident rates from self-driving cars could possibly save about how much money in one year?
$8 billion
$190 billion
Less accidents could save $190 billion per year. Plus, fewer people would wind up seriously injured.
$800 billion
Question 20 of 30
How much prize money did DARPA offer to the team that won its first autonomous car race?
$1 million
One million dollars wasn't much cash considering the technology and time involved.
$3 million
$10 million
Question 21 of 30
The electric Google car uses sensors to see about how far?
200 feet (61 meters)
600 feet
The Google car can see about 600 feet and can even distinguish between pedestrians and bicyclists.
1,200 feet
Question 22 of 30
A driverless car might have how many electronic control units on board?
Driverless cars could have 60 electronic control units — they are loaded to the dashboard with all sorts of computers.
Question 23 of 30
How many teams signed up for DARPA's 2005 Grand Challenge race?
Two hundred teams signed up for the race, and five finalist vehicles managed to complete the course.
Question 24 of 30
Aesthetically, how did Google want the exterior of its self-driving car to look?
The company wanted the car to look as welcoming as possible to avoid freaking people out.
Question 25 of 30
How many autonomous vehicles completed the first DARPA Grand Challenge race?
The course was 150 miles (241 kilometers), and the farthest a vehicle made it was 7 miles.
Question 26 of 30
What is one possible side effect of the mass adoption of autonomous cars?
more crashes
more congestion
With lower costs of driving and more old and young people in cars, congestion may increase.
higher costs of driving
Question 27 of 30
According to some experts, replacing all cars with self-driving cars could free up about how many hours per day for commuters?
50 million
300 million
1 billion
One billion hours is a lot of time to get work done — or just watch Netflix.
Question 28 of 30
What was the average speed of the vehicle that won DARPA's 2007 Urban Challenge?
28 miles per hour (45 kilometers per hour)
14 miles per hour
It took just over four hours to complete the 60-mile course.
8 miles per hour
Question 29 of 30
In 2016 how much money did President Barack Obama propose to jump-start autonomous vehicle development?
$4 billion
The $4 billion plan included real-world pilot projects.
$500 million
$50 million
Question 30 of 30
According to Boston Consulting Group, fully autonomous cars might make up what percentage of cars by 2035?
25 percent
15 percent
10 percent
It sees the adoption of these cars happening incrementally and predicts 10 percent of cars will be fully autonomous by 2035.


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Third year medical students may be assigned medicine 5 week clerkships at Staten Island University Hospital. Each student will be assigned to a medical care team consisting of a preceptor, an attending, resident and intern.
To introduce the student to clinical medicine
To develop the skills and knowledge needed to take an accurate history and physical and to formulate an appropriate differential diagnosis
To introduce the student to the principles of developing a management/treatment plan for various diagnoses
To encourage the student to take an active role as a member of the health care team, to learn to be responsible for patient management, to learn to work effectively with other members of the health care team and to develop skills as a professional
To be punctual to all rounds and lectures
Perform a history and physical examination on new admissions assigned by the resident team
Assist the resident team in simple procedures and become familiar with these procedures
Present patients at Work and Attending Rounds. To have read thoroughly on these patients prior to presentation
Submit write-ups for patients using the format requested by the medical school to the preceptor for formal evaluation. Submission of five write-ups is required
Be up to date and familiar with the patients' pertinent development and write daily progress notes. Progress notes must be discussed with and countersigned by the assigned intern or resident
Accompany patients to special procedures and participate in discussions with consultants whenever possible
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Attend all assigned conferences given by the Department of Medicine, including Medical Grand Rounds, housestaff lectures, as well as specific conferences for third year clerks.
The day begins with Work Rounds at 7:30 A.M. each morning with the resident team. Morning Report occurs at 8:00 A.M. when a member of the teaching staff reviews each new admission at the bedside with the admitting residents/students. At 10:00 A.M. Monday through Friday (3 lectures per week - see schedule) students are asked to present pre-assigned topics under the guidance of a chief resident in a case-based fashion. At 11:00 A.M. Teaching Rounds take place, which include the presentation of two new admissions by the resident or student. The patients are discussed in depth, including the admitting history and physical, initial laboratory data, problem list, pathophysiology, diagnostic and therapeutic plan.
At 12:00 noon there is a daily medical conference presented by the subspecialty divisions, which emphasize the presentation and discussion of patients. At 1:15 P.M. there are Student Conferences as per the Student Conference Calendar. During the afternoon, bedside care and procedures, new admissions, subspecialty ward rounds and literature review of current medical problems occur. Preceptors meet with their students (two times per week).
The third year medical student is paired with one intern and resident. In addition, they are expected to take call together with their assigned intern. Calls vary monthly. All notes must be countersigned and reviewed with the senior resident assigned to your unit. All notes must clearly indicate a medical student has written it. All admissions must be discussed with the PGY I/II on call and be countersigned.
Since important patient contact, and management discussions occur at night, you will be expected to take night call with your intern. On-call rooms are provided for the students to stay overnight if they choose. There are lockers available for the students, which are located in the on-call rooms on 3B and 3A.
Students will take call if the assigned intern is on call. Students are expected to write progress notes on their patient(s) on Saturday. Students not on call on Sunday will have the day off.
The hospital will adhere to the school's policy regarding holidays and follow a Saturday schedule.
The student will receive 3 evaluations for this rotation, from your preceptor, your attending and the resident assigned to your unit. Students must submit to their floor attending a mid-rotation formative evaluation during week 3, which the student must return to the school (see memo on clerkship grading).
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The Chevrolet Express Cutaway van is known by customers and upfitters alike for the flexibility and durability of its three available wheelbases, single or dual rear wheels and three engine choices – including the powerful Duramax 6.6L turbo-diesel.
For the 2014 model year, the Express Cutaway again offers many features to accommodate a wide range of applications while adding some new features to its lineup. Three new exterior colors, Cyber Gray Metallic, Quick Silver Metallic and Bronze Alloy Metallic, are available. Also, a new 160-amp alternator allows for more accessories to run on the powerful electrical system.
Additionally for 2014, the Express features a new 9900 GVWR with the 159-inch wheelbase, along with higher GVWRs on 3500 models, including 10,050 pounds (4,559 kg) and 10,100 pounds (4,581 kg). The 4500 models have a maximum GVWR of 14,200 pounds (6,441 kg).
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The powerful Duramax turbo-diesel V-8 is offered in Express Cutaway, delivering best-in-class torque and horsepower. Known by its "LGH" engine code, it is rated at 260 horsepower (194 kW) and 525 lb.-ft. of torque (712 Nm).
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A fuel-operated heater (FOH) is available for vans equipped with the Duramax 6.6L to quickly provide heat to the vehicle interior in cold weather. This seamlessly integrated system is designed into the Express chassis, saving customers the time and labor of upfitting an aftermarket system. The electronically controlled, fuel-operated heater operates automatically, turning on and off within parameters that include outside air temperature, fuel level, coolant temperature and engine use. It features a self-contained, pressurized auxiliary coolant heater (with a surge tank) that uses diesel fuel to generate up to 17,200 Btu/h (5 kW) of heating energy.
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