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Type: New Feature
Status: Closed
Priority: Blocker
Resolution: Fixed
Affects Version/s: 1.8.2, 2.0
Fix Version/s: 2.1
Component/s: Assignment (2.2)
Affected Branches:MOODLE_18_STABLE, MOODLE_20_STABLE
Fixed Branches:MOODLE_21_STABLE
A few faculty members have requested the ability to copy an activity. This would just save them from having to recreate a new activity if they only want to slightly change the wording. Or even if they have homework due every Friday that they don't want to recreate 16 times. This would be an excellent time saving feature.
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CONTRIB-907 Sharing Cart Block for duplicating, browsing, and inserting individual activities/resources
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I strongly support this request. I think it is effectively the same as
MDL-4487, which has been hanging around for some time now.
Also I notice that this facility is already there for questions, which have a "Save as new question" button at the bottom. Perhaps add the same thing for activities and resources?
We have instructors already asking to be able to Copy a Quiz, since they are setting up a series of quizzes that have almost all the same settings. would be a big time-saver! Has this been prioritized at all?
I suggest the typical task is to copy activity settings, but not content - i.e. you need to copy only settings for the quiz, not the quiz itself (i.e. using questions).
I also strongly support this request, but even more useful was a linking settings from one activity to another (execept name, descriptions and time): sometimes you need to change settings in 10 alike quizzes.
Now that groupings allow us to target resources and activites to specific groups, mulitple copies (targeted to different groups) will be even more useful!
I think the "save as a new resource" button (like in quizzes) would be good. but...
I would prefer an icon simular to the move icon in editing mode. You would just drag and drop using the icon with the resulting resource being suffixed with copy1 etc..
We really do need this. Teachers ask for it in every professional development course that I teach.
This is a consistent request every year (together with ZIP downloading of submissions). I think that it ought to receive major priority with an upwards arrow since it's a major enhancement to functionality.
This is much much needed, definitely, long overdue function for any LMS. I also like the idea of being able to apply a setting change to all activities of a certain type - so, for example, if I want to change all web page resources to open in a new window I could do that all at once instead of editing each one. Could have an interface like the "backup" interface where you can check off content and then "apply setting" or "copy/duplicate" etc. etc..
This function (cloning an activity) is now implemented for 1.9 with the release of the Project Course Format and Sharing Cart. The Project format provides section level backup and import. The Sharing Cart is a block that follows a teacher wherever she/he is in a site. The Sharing Cart can pick up any individual activity or resource, place it in a personal library or "cart", and insert the activity into any other location in other courses. See discussion here: http://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=87044
Actually, we are beginning to touch core and go beyond our capabilities, so I hope this can evolve into a standard feature of Moodle 2.0. Cheers, Don
I read through the discussion thread you refer to and it seems as though the Sharing Cart only works with the Project Course Format. As much as I think both of the projects are excellent the functionality that I'm looking for is much simpler and should be possible to implement for standard course types. Simple duplication of an Activity should not be that difficult to implement – there used to be a hack workaround whereby one could rename 'move' item to 'copy' in the address bar, but that has now been closed off.
+1. We've just had a request from a faculty member for exactly this sort of thing.
This is something so rudimentary and yet something that as a Moodle trainer I've been gunned down in flames about in the past - is there some way of making this a bit more than a 'minor' priority?
I agree that the Sharing Cart block needs to work for Topic and Weekly course formats as well. Then it will be extremely simple to add to a site. It is a matter of getting funds to make that happen. It would take about US$3000. It is possible that we will get that by early winter 2009, but actually I think this block has so much promise, it deserves to be included in core. You may want to promote that, or if you have resources available now, you may want to proceed with making it compatible.
This feature already exists. It is the 'Import' link in the course administration block. What is being asked for that can't be done with that?
Tim - I think import is a bit cumbersome and I don't think folks think about import from the same course. I had done some work on this back in Moodle 1.6. I think what is wanted is a one-click solution. I'm not sure how many clicks import requires. But from a functionality perspective I think your question is a good one, import works just fine. So I think it would really be more of an improvement than a new feature. Peace - Anthony
The import feature can do many things, but we abandonned it for cloning quizzes for several reasons:
- it forced us to copy all or none of the total course files – rather than just the associated files needed for that quiz
- it requires a teacher to know where to find the quiz (difficult if you are not the author, and sometimes a teacher wishes to browse courses and pick up activities)
- tedious operation
- teachers wish to have a library of common activities to insert/clone into courses--this library should be always visible or available
For these reasons, we are creating the sharing cart block, which will easily clone activities. I hope to pass this on to you in December so you can see if it handles these problems. At the moment we are trying to fix an issue with handling system categories of questions. Also we need to make it widely compatible with various course formats.
@Tim – Unless I'm grossly mistaken, Import is designed to import course backups into an existing course. It's a real stretch to require teaching faculty to use this as the means of duplicating activities.
Surely 28 votes must propel this from a minor to a major issue?
@Don – If your 'sharing cart block' operates with the standard Weekly and Topic course outlines it will indeed be useful. But more useful still would be a core component that has similar functionality. If User Interface is a priority for version 2.0 then this issue must surely be of importance to the core developers.
I would envision a little icon next to the other edit icons that allows you to copy an activity. I agree that Import would work, but there are too many steps involved and it's not intuitive to use import to import into the same course. Generally that is used for importing into a different course.
Here is a screenshot of a beta version of the sharing cart block. The sharing cart block is on the right. A section of resources and activities is on the left (using the project course format). Notice the small cube-like icon with a small red arrow. That is a one-click cloning icon that can put the activity or resource into the sharing cart. Then as the teacher navigates around the site, the sharing cart always follows the teacher. By clicking on that same icon, the teacher can insert the item anywhere in any course she/he has access to.
@Mark – Actually you are describing the function of the Restore feature. The Import feature is different. It does not import course backups. Instead, it allows you pull individual activities or whole courses into your course, without any user data. It certainly can clone a single item, but as I explained, in a cumbersome manner with several other drawbacks. But first, try out "Import" and see if it meets your needs.
@Don – Thanks for the clarification of Import vs Restore.
I have just taken a look at your Sharing Cart screenshot and it is massively cool. I love the idea of being able to trundle the cart into any course you own and take items out of the cart. I will definitely try this out over the Christmas break.
Through all the recent comments I ended up having to actually try out Tim's suggested alternative and found that in my version (Moodle 1.92 (build 20080711) the import function doesn't allow you to import from the existing course (not even as an Admin) – it simply doesn't list it on a search and doesn't list it under courses I've taught, if you happen to be logged in as something other than an admin.
@Bob, @Don,
I have just tried using the Import function with the normal Teacher role (version 1.9.2+) and I can confirm Bob's observation. Yes, you can import individual activities and so forth but from a different course. The source course is not listed. So I'm flummoxed as to how Import could possibly be used to duplicate activities.
In older Moodle versions you could rt-click on an up/down arrow, select copy link location, paste it into the address bar of a new tab and and change the word 'copy' to 'duplicate'. Opening this would create a new activity which you could change settings, rename and relocate. So I'm not sure why this would be more difficult now.
How many votes does it take to move a widely requested feature like this one with 28 votes from a minor to a major issue?
One problem is that we do not know which files belong to each activity - we can not copy into different course,
second problem is that we are not adding new features into STABLE branches especially if there is a danger of regressions.
I agree this would a nice to have feature
I guess I'm suitably confused now... I'm certainly not looking for copying a resource or activity from course-to-course, just within the same course. I know I can link multiple course page links to the same file resource so not sure why that's a hindrance though I admit I may not understand your comment accurately, Petr. As far as STABLE branch, I think I'd be satisfied at this point if this feature were included in the ANY branch, being its been under constant discussion for as long as I've had Moodle installed (four years).
I'm with Robert here. I don't think this is a "nice to have" feature. I think it's a basic core feature that has been requested since I've been using Moodle (1.3). Many teachers have assignments that they give every week or every day. Currently they have to create each one from scratch. Would you use a scheduler that didn't allow you to repeat an event every week/fortnight?
Totally agree with Robert and Mark. I used export and import to copy one week's worth of files/activities, and then moved them down and edited them. I think it was faster than creating each one separately, but a copy feature is essential in course creation.
Would be nice to have a shortcut to activities such as forums, rather than always having to create a new forum for it to appear in a section. But that's another subject.
I don't remember the source, but I thought I recently read about someone that had set up the ability to copy entire sections. Unfortunately, I'm in the middle of final exams, final papers, etc. for the semester and cannot recall who, when, where, or other useful particulars but this may be something worth searching on the forums (provided its not mentioned earlier in this tracker issue, which is possible considering my current state of mind). Peace - Anthony
Project Course Format: to copy entire sections
Sharing Cart: to copy individual activities/resources
I just opened tracker requests on these two new features.
Please go there to vote and watch. Anthony will set us up with CVS access within two weeks. Then you can download them and try. Sorry, both are needed together. We won't have the Sharing Cart compatible for Topic/Weekly course formats til January/February.
Sharing Cart 1.9 version 2 just released. Now compatible with Topics and Weekly format, as well as Project format. Copy or clone individual activities easily. Teachers can move across site with their own "cart" of resources/activities.
If by copying new activity you understand coping (with some editing) it's settings only (i.e. stuff that appears on add/update form), then consider voting for
MDL-18093. It's relatively easy to write, but I need to convice moodle developers on it usefulness.
This really should be more than a minor issue. It is easy to share question banks between courses but it is nontrivial to share a test between sections of the same course and for that matter to share any module between different sections (courses). I have been playing with exporting question banks but that does not allow for all the other stuff - what questions are in a quiz/test, what the header information says, when it opens or closes, how it is graded, etc. It is quite reasonable to think that instructors may want to have the same or similar tests between courses. The backup and restore or the import from another course does not work as one might want because I have not found a way to limit it to just the contents of one topic or module or activity. Perhaps I'm just being dense but after working over 3 decades in IT, I can assure you that if it is possible it is certainly not intuitive.
Norman - It is an issue that certainly has a number of votes. In part, I believe that it was going to be addressed with the work being done on Backup 2.0 (http://docs.moodle.org/en/Development:Backup_2.0). One of the complaints that I have heard from folks is that the backup/restore process and thus the importing process requires too many clicks. I know that does not seem to address the who copying/duplicating an activity within a course. I forget what the perceived challenges of this were but I do believe that it could be useful. Peace - Anthony
How many issues have more than 44 votes and 24 watchers, and yet are still minor priority? This feature has been needed and requested (by my faculty at least) since Moodle 1.3. In the past we worked around the problem by means of a kludge (editing the 'move' URL to duplicate) but this has been closed off (probably a security hole). To start with a simple activity duplicator would probably do the trick – one that merely makes an exact replicate / clone of an activity in situ. One then drags the copies to appropriate places on the Outline and modifies internal details according to need. Backup/Restore or Import does not address this issue and it confounds the backup process with activity replication which is really a totally separate process.
Now that Don Hinkleman's Sharing Cart works with Topics and Weekly format I shall try this out but the question for me is whether it will be supported in future Moodle versions.
The main problem here is that we do not know which file belongs to each activity, without this information it is not possible to implement any reliable solution for copy/pasting of activities between different courses - this is the reason why it was not implemented yet and will not be implemented in 1.9.x.
In 2.0dev we are finally working on a proper solution, it requires very many major changes in moodle code base.
Thanks Petr, that's very helpful.
Speaking for myself the main issue is replicating activities within a single course which may be somewhat easier. But I do understand that this cannot happen in 1.9.
Mark - Just a quick answer to your question, the two top voted on issues (http://tracker.moodle.org/browse/MDL?report=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.project%3Apopularissues-panel) are both listed as having minor priority. I occasionally review http://tracker.moodle.org/secure/ShowConstantsHelp.jspa?decorator=popup#PriorityLevels to remind myself of the meaning of the priorities. Every issue is important and even one reported as having minor priority. The fact that it has so many votes will certainly keep it on the radar even if it has been a long time coming. I know that I had enabled this functionality when it was commented out in the code back in Moodle 1.6. Since then so much has changed but it is worth continuing to advocate for. Thanks for your encouragement and speaking up about this issue. It is good to hear that it is much desired. Peace - Anthony
Thanks, Mark, for trying the Sharing Cart for copying and cloning activities. We will update it for Moodle 2.0 and I hope you vote for it
CONTRIB-907 to be included in Moodle core for 2.1. The problem with current Backup/Restore is that it takes over 15 clicks and considerable time to clone one simple activity. In addition, Backup will copy all course files (media files) along with the single activity- which can be hundreds of audio and image files in our site. The Sharing Cart is just three steps to move an activity-and it brings along only the media files for that activity.
1. Click once to backup
2. Navigate to the new location
3. Click once to restore
Anthony, thanks for the pointer about the priority levels. The "minor" makes a bit more sense now although I think it could be argued about whether an "easy workaround is present" in this case. It is certainly true both that workarounds do exist and the absence of this functionality does not make the system as a whole not functional but I maintain there is no easy workaround which provides this function in most cases.
Norman - Yep, you are right there is no easy workaround. I've added my vote to the issue. Peace - Anthony
One limitation of import is that it always imports to the same block the original is in - wish I could choose which section to drop the activities/resoruces. I have used import from a template I have, but then I have to move each item individually to the correct week or topic. Moving takes a long time. There's also a problem of importing the test banks, where it would be nice to choose "include only settings", not the questions.
What with all the clicks to import, and then the moving, I am not sure this is a time saver, but at least I know all the settings are the same on every quiz, every forum, etc.
I'm glad to hear there are solutions afoot.
A related issue is the fact that for many use cases of Quiz, the fact that quizzes lock up when there are attempts is a serious issue. The only way to solve this seems to be making copies of the quiz without the attempts.
I made some mockups for this in the Autumn:
Ray, hm I never got an email about your message. Did it now:
The "sharing cart" isn't going to cut it. Moodle already has too many weird gizmos. What people want-
and rightfully so-is a simple "duplicate" button next to a quiz.
I would dispute that Sharing Cart is a "weird gizmo" . I've installed it in our 1.9 production server and faculty are thrilled to be able to duplicate activities within a course and also copy resources and activities between their courses. It's a really great feature and ought to be a candidate for inclusion into the core IMHO.
We're using the Sharing Cart and it has really provided some tremendous functionality that I don't believe would be provided by a duplicate activity function. +1 for putting it into core.
The fact that this issue has been open for 2-1/2 years, has 62 votes and continues to be rated minor causes me deep concern that community opinion may not be as valued as it once was.
This is a major issue for our teachers. The number 1 request is quick and easy moving and duplication of activities (all activities, not just quizzes). The Sharing Cart has been a godsend because all of our teachers teach more than one course--they use it dozens of times per day. Novice teachers get the hang of it instantly. It's the first tool I teach them to use after the forum and quiz. I strongly recommend inclusion of the Sharing Cart or something like the Sharing Cart in core Moodle 2.1. It should at the minimum:
- clone any activity
- move any activity to any course and any section you select
And if you can figure out how to do it all drag-and-drop, that would be fantastic. We haven't-
but are looking for ideas. BTW, release 11 of the Sharing Cart came out last week-fixes an issue with Common Module Settings and moving custom theme icons. With these frequent updates, I like to think it would be even ready for core Moodle 2.0.
I'm not sure that it is a lack of concern for community opinion and I think community input is still very much valued. From a functional point of view, it can be done with import; however, it is not as convenient as it could be and thus on a practical level still needed as Don indicates. I remember making this type of functionality available back in 1.5. I'm not sure if it might be something that could worked into the functionality of the work being done to overhaul backup and restore in 2.0 or not. The popularity of the issue makes it certainly worth exploring. Peace - Anthony
I must admit my disappointment Anthony that you still hold close to the assertion, "From a functional point of view, it can be done with import; " – in fact, it can't. As stated a number of times in this issue and in the forums, Import does not allow you to use the same course for both source and target. And while I understand you're a peacemaker and respect that greatly, I also respect the bare bone facts that this issue (along with other issues popular in the community) are ignored across many version releases. As my mom always said, "People'll tell ya all the time what they think is important but you won't really know what they think until you look where they spend their money and their time".
In fairness, I have to admit it was a bit of a stretch. What I meant by functional was how I had implemented it where there was a separate teacher repository course (I was trying to encourage all teachers to share their resources in one spot) and then they could import those into their particular courses. That was how I resolved it when the ability to have a duplicate no longer worked in 1.8 (I think it was 1.8 as I forget when import was introduced). Technically, you can create a backup of an activity and restore it to the same course which duplicates it but this is admittedly a pain but the functionality is there. We just need to make it more convenient. The existence of the functionality is good news in that from a coding standpoint cloning an activity should be able to be accomplished without too much effort. We could create a duplicate/clone function that backups up just that one activity without any user data and then restores it to the course preferably without any confirmations (except perhaps one indicating what is about to happen). Of course there is probably an easier solution too in terms of just getting the basic information and creating another activity. I do tend to be a bit more idealistic but for the most part I don't see that issues are ignored. I have experienced an issue being postponed, delayed, etc. for a long period of time. I see this in part as the result of limited resources. I nevertheless remain convinced that we are all doing our best so please keep advocating for this issue to be resolved. Peace - Anthony
I just added a link to
MDL-18093 where another approach is outlined. There are several factors to be discussed (sorry I did not go thru all your posts above). IIRC Import does not support importing from the course itself, which may be considered a bug (excuse me if I am wrong). Since Moodle 2.0, there will be issues with file areas and context as during the clone, all embedded files must be relinked. Also, Eloy is currently working on a new backup/restore framework which should support single-activity encapsulation better. Probably, we will have to introduce a new standard module API function called modulename_clone() or something like that which will handle all tasks needed so the module can control what must be done during the cloning.
"Technically, you can create a backup of an activity and restore it to the same course which duplicates it but this is admittedly a pain but the functionality is there. We just need to make it more convenient. "
Sorry, Anthony, but 65 votes say NO, this is not good enough. Duplicating / cloning / replicating (whatever you want to call it) activities is a basic requirement for faculty to manage a course. This functionality needs a simple user interface which accomplishes it with no fuss. Users can move any object in the course outline to a different position; why is duplication so difficult to achieve?
why is duplication so difficult to achieve?
Moving the activity to a different position is just as easy as changing one number in the database (the number of the course slot) and can be done easily by the core. Cloning is more complicated, basically because it is module specific task. Every module must carefully decide what information must be duplicated and process it. Technically, this is exactly what backup and restore code does. That is the reason why we resist to implement it now because the backup and restore subsystem is under heavy re-construction for Moodle 2.0. Usability is improtant, of course. But at first, solid backend must be prepared.
To David and Mark:
Thanks David for your attention to this issue and the related "Save as" issue for all activities. I agree, both approaches are useful. These issues were so important to us in our teaching teams that we had to create a solution now for 1.9 so our teachers could duplicate activities across their average load of ten courses, and to share activities to save time in creation. We are heavy into multimedia, so handling attached videos, images, and audio files was a huge complication in developing the Sharing Cart. I understand you are focused on 2.0, and we want the Sharing Cart to be incorporated into the 2.0 core in some functionality. I hope our experience with 1.9 can somehow inform the critical work you are doing.
- "why is duplication so difficult to achieve?"
Well, yes, it is difficult but it has already been achieved in 1.9. When we made the Sharing Cart (not me alone, I just designed the functionality) the first question was "What aspects of the activity/resource to duplicate and what to exclude?". We chose to exclude all user data (like the import function), but to include both the database data and the associated media files, and only the directly associated media files (unlike the import function). This gets complicated because media files are not centrally located but sometimes in course files and sometimes in site files. Because of that complication and the danger of media files being deleted unknowingly by other teachers or admins doing course cleanup, we decided the Sharing Cart would completely duplicate the media files and not relink to the original ones. This means the whole site storage gradually gets larger, but this has not been a problem in over a year of production use with 170 courses (1TB hard disks are now under $100). The second issue we had to deal with was teacher usability and productivity. Teachers wanted to duplicate their activities to multiple courses, not just a single one, and they wanted to keep their key activities in a library for later insertion into other courses. Thus we created User Library folders in moodledata which would permanently keep the duplicated activities/resources for the teachers. After bloated libraries developed, we made it easy to clean out your own Sharing Cart with bulk delete. Finally, last year we integrated the Sharing Cart into an Institutional and a Cross-Institutional Repository--but that is another story.
One more design complication that I forgot to mention is the Question Bank in the Quiz Module. We have thousands of quiz questions and our course-building revolves around shared banks of questions for teachers in similar courses. I am afraid my memory is a bit fuzzy on how we made the Sharing Cart handle this. The Sharing Cart does duplicate the question's category in the Question Bank, but as you know the category is not absolute but embedded in a context, with associated permissions. So sometimes teachers did not have permission to view a question and sometimes students could not see the associated media files. I think (I am not the programmer) we decided to handle these issues outside of code, with two approaches. Some of this is explained in Moodle Docs under "Sharing Cart".
- verbally recommend/enforce all question categories be made in System categories
- create additional roles such as Question Creator (for teachers) and Question User (for students) which removed restrictions on viewing media and viewing/editing questions. These roles were applied on mass to site users.
This means the whole site storage gradually gets larger
This should be solved in Moodle 2.0 in the new File subsystem. Shortly, every single file is physically stored at the disk just once and it is linked into appropriate contexts during the copying. It is the same mechanism as the hard-linking in Linux file systems. Note that the same file can appear in different places (courses) under different names, of course.
complication that I forgot to mention is the Question Bank
yup, this is known issue. We know the limitations of the current system, as well the fact it does not fit all course organization policies. It is planned to rewrite the sharing logic once we/somebody come with a better specification of the functionality.
Don - I think you misread the email. Martin simply did a mass update of issues marked to be fixed for 2.0 and moved them to be fixed in 2.0.1. The issue is as of yet unresolved. Peace - Anthony
NOTE: This issue was assigned to the STABLE backlog without complete triaging process. Marking it as triaged, but with this note for future reference.
This is going to be implemented as an application of the new backup/restore system as it now fully supports single activity processing. The issue has been moved to the DEV backlog so please do no expect it before Moodle 2.1.
I would find it impossible to have arrived at the conclusion to use the backup/restore to meet this VERY desperate need if I'd read the comments submitted above. Teachers do not want to have to click ten times to clone an activity – two to three would be the maximum, especially when many copies need to be made.
With all due respect, this issue has garnered 82 votes over nearly 4 years which tell the story that backup/restore is not what folks need. Are you really expecting a course teacher to go to the bother of performing a course backup and restore just to duplicate an activity? It will never happen. For the sake of harried moodle administrators please reconsider this decision. Is incorporating Don Hinkelman's Sharing Cart totally out of the question?
I agree with the above, a solution that's too difficult or unobvious for teachers to use is no solution.
Sorry, this is just misunderstanding. From the user/UI point of view, it WILL be single click operation (via "x2" icon at the Editing mode on) without any steps. The module will be backed-up and restored silently, using some reasonable default values for the backup (no user data etc). The module backup/restore logic knows best what is needed to do. I hope this makes it clear.
Thanks David. That process was not at all obvious from your initial statement.
Thanks David! Your description is exactly what I hoped for: a simple icon (x2), single click operation with the cloned activity appearing directly below the original (minus user data). Thus if a teacher needs to clone the activity with user data, they should use backup/restore (tedious but that case would be rare I believe). All in all, a great addition for Moodle 2.1.
This plan will replace one of three functions of the Sharing Cart, which I still hope you can include in standard Moodle 2.2 code or later. The other two functions are: 1) moving a cloned activity from course to course in an easy way for teachers and 2) maintaining/organizing a library of frequently used activities to add into any course. These are essentially for our teachers--most used tool in our faculty who average 5-10 similar courses and are constantly cloning/moving activities. Therefore, our university is continuing to create Sharing Cart 2.0 and Project Course Format 2.0, hoping to offer them in May. The coding of course won't be up to Moodle HQ standards, but hopefully with us doing a functional one, this will save you time incorporating into standard code. (vote for CONTRIB 907)
I have a working patch that adds this feature for Moodle 2.0. The code can be previewed and obtained from https://github.com/mudrd8mz/moodle/compare/master...WIP-MDL-11288-course-module-cloning (please note that I may still rebase that branch).
See the attached screenshots for the UI. As discussed earlier, this new cloning feature uses the same mechanism as importing from the course itself would do. It just does everything automatically on the background so it takes three clicks to have an activity duplicated.
The patch may land in either Moodle 2.0.x or 2.1.
A patch submitted for the first iteration of review. See PULL-572 for details
Thanks for sorting this one out. I particularly like the ability to edit the new instance immediately (as in the screenshot 2) – that was a thoughtful additional function which faculty will appreciate I'm sure. I'll still use the Sharing Cart to copy items between courses but this feature makes life a lot better.
Thanks, David, for this very valuable feature. What Helen is closing is actually the "Ability to copy (or clone) an activity within a course". In my school this is somewhat minor compared to the "Ability to copy (or clone) an activity/resource across courses). Our teachers have been using the Sharing Cart to do this but that feature should be in core. I don't think we need to open a new tracker issue though. Voting and watching this one should do: MDL-19721.


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"The parties worked cooperatively to come to a mutually agreeable solution and avoid litigation," the release from NID states. "The agreement provides certainty regarding future responsibility and will eliminate future disagreement."
The dispute began three years ago, when a breach occurred in a water pipeline running underneath Rough and Ready Highway, west of Grass Valley.
The Nevada County Public Works Department requested that the NID turn off the water, as the leak was compromising the integrity of the highway.
This largely affected Loftus and his 70-acre farm as he needed the water to prepare his crops for the following year.
The farm reportedly had typically used more than 55 million gallons of water annually.
"The farm's perennial stock — the fruit trees and berries — was severely damaged," Loftus wrote in an open letter to The Union.
After being unable to resolve the settlement within the requested amount of time, Loftus filed a suit against the NID for $800,000 in damages in July 2013.
Loftus received a great deal of support from the community during the dispute.
An online petition was created in support of the organic farmer and was said to have gathered 947 supporters according to a previous story in The Union.
Neither Loftus nor NID officials could be reached for comment.
According to a statement in the release, both parties have agreed to withhold further information regarding the settlement.
Maya Anderman is an intern with The Union. Contact her via email at email@example.com.


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Robin Brownlee
April 23 2009 12:46PM
Seeing as Edmonton Oilers GM Steve Tambellini has neglected to text me his list of head coaching candidates for comment and approval -- Steve, where's the trust? -- I can only guess who he's considering.
While it might not be stop-the-presses stuff, I see the list of candidates to take over from Craig MacTavish falling into two categories: the been-there-done-that group and the if-I-only-got-the-chance bunch.
The first group includes obvious names that have been tossed out countless times already. In my mind, the leaders in the established bench boss group are: Brent Sutter, Marc Crawford and Pat Quinn.
The second group, and the one I hope Tambellini takes a long, hard look at, is made up of Brent Petersen, Todd Richards, Geoff Ward, Rob Daum, and Scott Arniel.
The old guys
SUTTER: if the New Jersey Devils release him from his deal, he'd be the clear-cut favourite. It's tough to argue with Sutter's track record in the WHL and what's he done in The Swamp. Question is, if the Devils let him go and don't make him sit out a year, who says he doesn't end up in Calgary?
CRAWFORD: Even if he calls the Oilers best player Alex Hemsky and thinks media guys are dough heads -- until he's out of coaching work and becomes one himself -- he's got a Stanley Cup ring, a Jack Adams Award and history with Tambellini dating back to their days as players in Vancouver.
QUINN: The big man is interested in getting back behind the bench in the NHL and, while he's no spring chicken, there's no question he's got both the experience and credibility to take hold of a dressing room that was divided much of this season. Like Crow, he's got history with Tambellini.
Outside the box
PETERSEN: If Petersen is ready to leave the comfort zone of Nashville and his relationship with Barry Trotz, he's one of those long-time assistants -- like a Paul MacLean or Todd McClellan -- who could easily run his own show. Again, history with Tambellini.
RICHARDS: Had 98 wins in two seasons as an AHL head coach in Scranton after four years as an assistant in Milwaukee. Just one season as an NHL assistant with San Jose on his resume, but he's thought of as an up-and-comer, and with good reason.
WARD: Critics point to his so-so record in some seasons in the Oilers farm system, but take a closer look at what he had to work with. After two seasons as an assistant to Claude Julien in Boston, he's ready to move up. Has lots of experience as a head coach in the OHL and AHL and he's very well thought of within the organization.
DAUM: After nothing but success with the Alberta Golden Bears, he went 50-24-0 with Houston in 2005/06, then was cut loose by Minnesota following the 2006-07 AHL season after a 27-43-0 campaign. How'd that happen?
Daum lost his top three scorers from the previous year, Kirby Law, Erik Westrum and Patrick O'Sullivan, during the off-season and then Minnesota took Josh Harding midway through the next. Daum deserves a Purple Heart, and an interview with Tambellini, after trying to clean up a mess not of his making in Springfield this season.
ARNIEL: Yes, he's had a first-rate organization to work with in Manitoba, but his record at the AHL level has been outstanding. Has history with Tambellini. There's nothing not to like about Arniel.
One more year?
It's just fine with me if Rod Phillips returns for a 37th season as the Oilers radio play-by-play man.
Jim Matheson suggested that might be the case in The Journal this week, calling it "60-40" that he returns, and when Senior suggests something it's usually because he knows it to be the case.
That's especially true when it comes to Phillips because he and Rod have been running buddies on the road since the 1970s, when they tore it up big time before morphing into Stattler and Waldorf after bell-bottom pants went out of style.
In this particular case, Senior got the dope first-hand because he and Phillips just spent a week golfing on the road while driving down to The Skipper's palatial estate in Buckeye, just outside Phoenix. Nothing like 30 straight hours of Frank Sinatra on the drive down.
I'd like to listen to another season of Phillips and Bob Stauffer. I find them a more dynamic tandem than Rod and Morley Scott, who didn't bring anything to the mix resembling the analysis and eye for details Stauffer has. Rod has earned the right to go when he decides it's time.
Coach's corner
If Kelly Buchberger survives the purge of assistant coaches -- I believe he will because of his relationship with owner Daryl Katz -- bet the house he'll be pulling for Ward.
Buchberger and Ward have been tight since they coached the forgettable, inept and overwhelmed Roadrunners.
And, while the Roadrunners were abysmal, I've got to admit I've never had more fun on the road than when Ward, Buchberger and Joe Paterson were behind the bench. There was one night in Houston and another in Rochester when... Enough said.
Eric Thurston has competition for the head coaching posting at the U of A with the Golden Bears.
Dean Clark, a former WHL and CHL coach of the year with the Calgary Hitmen, has applied. Clark has been out of hockey since being let go after the 2007/08 season.
Clark, a former Golden Bear, got caught up in the ownership change with the Blazers and was let go after a 27-41-0 season in Kamloops. With two 50-win seasons with Calgary, including a ridiculous .833 winning percentage (58-10-2) in 1999-2000, Clark belongs behind the bench.
If you ask me...
As Jason Gregor has already pointed out, it doesn't matter who Tambellini hires behind the bench if the Oilers roster doesn't change significantly. The second-coming of Toe Blake couldn't make the roster, as it sits, a legitimate Stanley Cup contender.
And, while I agree with Tambellini the Oilers need to get bigger and grittier, I'm also of the mind, as the old saying goes, that's it's not always the size of the dog in the fight but the fight in the dog that matters.
If I'm looking to move soft players, as opposed to just small guys, who have some cachet around the NHL, then my list of trade candidates includes Tom Gilbert, Dustin Penner, O'Sullivan and Andrew Cogliano.
I'm not saying changes begin and end with these four, but if Tambellini really is interested in shaping this team into a group that takes losing personally, I'm starting with them.
The complicating factor with Gilbert is a herniated disc in his back might do more than take him out of the mix as potential trade bait. If Gilbert and the Oilers medical staff don't stay on top of things they could be looking at a repeat of the ordeal JF Jacques just went through.
I can live with another year of Dwayne Roloson, at, say, $2.5 million or so, in tandem with Jeff Deslauriers, but there's zero chance I'm giving him two more years if I'm Tambellini. If Roloson coaxes a two-year stint out of another team, and he might, then Tambellini should target Scott Clemmensen.
-- Listen to Robin Brownlee every Thursday from 4 to 6pm on Just A Game with Jason Gregor on TEAM 1260.
April 23 2009, 12:54PM
Two things:
- Lorne Molleken's name was floated the other day on HNIC; have you heard anything about that, Robin? - Based on his public quotes, it seems like Pat Quinn is much more interested in the GM job in Minnesota; do you have any thoughts on that?
Here, here to you Robin for staying aboard for until 2010. Your analysis is always great, and you're fun to rip on have you rip us back.
April 23 2009, 01:12PM
Robin, I'm lookin forward to reading your take on all things Oiler and Hockey for a while longer.
PS. Is anyone else having a problem with their posts. I try to post and then it disappears for a while before it eventually shows up. Right now if there are 36 comments only 27 of them show up. Did i break my internet or was it Wanye and Jeanshorts rough-housing near the post-machine?
You could live with Deslauriers as a full time back up? I think the Oilers need to pursue a veteran back up. Deslauriers is like Mike Morrison. He's still living off a couple good games. His numbers in the NHL aren't good and his numbers in the AHL are unimpressive for someone who is supposed to be a legitimate goalie prospect.
Robin, please tell me that the Oilers don't hire another retread??? Quinn, Crawford please. The Oilers have the opportunity to bring in a young coach that is willing prove himself and his system with the Oilers. I agree the 2nd coming of Toe Blake won't make the team good enough to win the Stanley Cup, so let's move in another direction in the coaching position.
As for the bite of the dog, I agree Gilbert, Penner and Cogliano are soft but was that the system or the player? Penner and Gilbert will always be soft but Cogliano should be in a system that stresses forchecking and aggression. You don't have to be big to forcheck or to be aggressive. The same would go for Gagne and O'Sullivan.
April 23 2009, 01:35PM
You know...I could just about imagine that a text message from Tambo would read exactly like that one in the picture up there. "lolz"...haha...classic.
Do you think Penner has much trade value anymore? I mean, I have to think his street value dropped considerably this season after the rippings MacT gave him in the media. Do you think there's any dance partners that would take on the big guy? What sort of return would be good for him?
What about Jonas Gustavsson? Isnt he going to be the next Lundqvist?
There is another name for coach that has not been mentioned and that is McGill, also after last night Price may be available....
April 23 2009, 02:20PM
Archaeologuy wrote:
PS. Is anyone else having a problem with their posts. I try to post and then it disappears for a while before it eventually shows up
After the big signing of Robin, the site could no longer afford to pay it's internet bills. Expect more malfunctions in the future...at least until the cheque from Zender goes through!
I wonder if Brownlee has a no trade clause?
April 23 2009, 02:21PM
Boris wrote:
after last night Price may be available….
Blah. No thanks. I am tired of inconsistent players.
@ Boris: So after last night, why would we want Price?? Clemmenson is a much better option and kind of got screwed around because of contracts in Jersey. If he has his head on straight he would probably want to prove to every one that he should have stayed with the team after Brodeur came back. He probably want a shot at being number 1.
After all of that I am looking forward to next season just to see what Tambo has under his hat. a few moves this summer will definitely keep the off season interesting.
April 23 2009, 02:41PM
Rice wrote:
@ Boris: So after last night, why would we want Price?? Clemmenson is a much better option and kind of got screwed around because of contracts in Jersey. If he has his head on straight he would probably want to prove to every one that he should have stayed with the team after Brodeur came back. He probably want a shot at being number 1. After all of that I am looking forward to next season just to see what Tambo has under his hat. a few moves this summer will definitely keep the off season interesting.
We would we want Price? How about because he's 20 years old and is getting booed by his own fans. After last night? Which goal was all that questionable? The Kessel breakaway maybe? Give your head a shake. Price is a great goalie, it's Gainey's fault for putting so much pressure on a kid that young.
We are seeing alot of the same names floating around for head coach and there is an easy track record to follow for the "been there" crowd but does anyone know what kind of coaches the up and comers are?
Not just levels of success but style of play and keeping players in line...that kind of stuff.
It's tough to narrow down who to prefer if you can't get a read on how they would fit with what the Oilers need.
April 23 2009, 03:09PM
@ Archaeologuy:
There are some weird things going on with comments today on the site. We made some updates to some things last night and they are having strange side effects.
*cocks head confusedly at interweb dispenser in the corner*
April 23 2009, 03:16PM
I'm a Scientist! wrote:
Boris wrote: after last night Price may be available…. Blah. No thanks. I am tired of inconsistent players.
Wow, I'd take Price in a heart beat. I'd try to do it without Gagner but I think even he would be in play.
April 23 2009, 03:17PM
Rice wrote:
@ Boris: So after last night, why would we want Price?? Clemmenson is a much better option and kind of got screwed around because of contracts in Jersey. If he has his head on straight he would probably want to prove to every one that he should have stayed with the team after Brodeur came back. He probably want a shot at being number 1. After all of that I am looking forward to next season just to see what Tambo has under his hat. a few moves this summer will definitely keep the off season interesting.
That's like saying you'd rather have Marty Reasoner over Sam Gagner.
April 23 2009, 03:42PM
Jonathan Willis wrote:
@RobinB: Two things: - Lorne Molleken's name was floated the other day on HNIC; have you heard anything about that, Robin? - Based on his public quotes, it seems like Pat Quinn is much more interested in the GM job in Minnesota; do you have any thoughts on that?
Molleken, like Ward, is well respected within the Oiler ranks. He did a good job on the farm for the Oilers before going to the Chicago Blackhawks. He's also a helluva good guy, not that that'll be a factor.
You're right on Quinn. If he could be GM and help shape the Wild as the boss, he'd jump at it. Pat just wants back in the game -- he's a hockey guy and nowhere near ready to retire.
April 23 2009, 03:44PM
There's been a real shift in the NFL to hire young coaches with good backgrounds (a la Mike Tomlin), as opposed to experienced guys who've been to the dance before (see Mike Shanahan).
I would be happy to see the Oil go this direction too. Arniel seems like a great fit for the direction Tambo wants to go, he knows how to win, he would bust his a$$ to prove himself at the NHL level, and would be able to connect with the players.
April 23 2009, 03:45PM
@ Rick: Ward fits in the "Do it my way or you'll be gone" category. He's fair, but he knows what he expects and sticks to it.
That's been muted as an assistant and even as a head coach at the AHL level because a lot of the marching orders come from above, but he takes no crap. Keep an eye on him.
April 23 2009, 03:56PM
baggedmilk wrote:
Here, here to you Robin for staying aboard for until 2010. Your analysis is always great, and you're fun to rip on have you rip us back. Kudos.
Who said that? The site really must be acting up because when Wanye asked me if I'd like to stick around and write more often, I told him to put it in his bum and get lost.
Fun to rip? I got your fun right here . . .
Boris wrote:
after last night Price may be available….
Hey if Montreal is hell bend on playing Price we should go after Halak.
@ Robin Brownlee:
Are you saying that not only does Stauffer have the extrasensory ability to sniff farts from miles away, but also has the same ability to pick up on visual details that people usually overlook?
Given his mercurial speed (as you described to us in your race with him), I'm convinced that he wears a cape at night.
Where is Marc Habsheid?? Wasn't he the next coaching goldenboy a couple of years back, but now i do't hear his name gettine mentioned anywhere.
RB - I noted your list of softies had O'Sullivan on it. He may well fit on that list over the long term. One thing I appreciated about his play (what little I got to see) was his ability to make plays with the puck. He seemed to me to have the puck on a string at times. Don't you think he may be deserving of a longer look if the Oilers add more grit and have a new coaching regime?
April 23 2009, 04:24PM
@ yo: Yes, he does need a longer look. At the same time, you have to look at what's coming back if somebody calls about him.
I take it George Burnett is not a up and comer.
April 23 2009, 05:18PM
Richards was coaching the WBS Penguins, and did so during a split affliation -- means the team was stocked NHL prospects and fewer AHL scrubs. They did well -- but I'm not sure how much of his success was team or coach.
Peterson's interesting to me, mostly because Nashville clearly seems to be able to make a fairly non-descript and sometimes smaller roster into a fast-attacking team. That relates well to the current roster of the Oilers.
I noticed that Brent Sutter also played with Tambellini during two seasons with the NYI.
April 23 2009, 07:12PM
Robin Brownlee wrote:
Fun to rip? I got your fun right here . . .
Are you coming on to me Brownlee? You old sailor you...
*blush* tee-hee
April 23 2009, 07:57PM
Haha that image at the top has to be one of the best I've seen so far. Great work boys!
Hold on, Cogs is on the "plays too soft" list? I'd say that for a guy his size, he's pretty much fearless out there.
And what's this about Gilbert having a bad back?
April 23 2009, 09:19PM
@ GSC: No, I'm saying Bob is a better analyst than Morley Scott was because he sees the game better in terms of identifying systems and what the teams are doing and he breaks it down in digestable chunks on the fly.
Brownlee: what do you think or Renney? He seems to have had decent success with young guys, and might be the right fit when it comes to systems and the like. Any chance he's on the short list? And please no Crawford. I still can't forgive him for Nagano.
April 23 2009, 09:39PM
@ DBO: He's always been a solid coach. To be honest, I don't know him well character and style-wise because he's spent the last six seasons in the Eastern Conference and was out of the league for five years before that. I'd put him in the category of capable coaches who tend to get recycled.
@ Robin Brownlee:
Why was there no mention of Paul MacLean as a possibility in your article. He's assistant coach of the Detroit Red Wings.
April 23 2009, 09:45PM
Jasmine wrote:
@ Robin Brownlee: Why was there no mention of Paul MacLean as a possibility in your article. He's assistant coach of the Detroit Red Wings.
Read it again. I did mention him. Qualification-wise, he fits right in with the guys I think Tambellini should look at, but I don't see him leaving Detroit to come here.
@ Robin Brownlee:
Sorry missed that. How serious is Tom Gilbert's back injury. When did the injury happen and could there be the possibility he needs surgery like J.F. Jacques?
April 23 2009, 09:53PM
Buchberger is just like a cockroach...just won't die
April 23 2009, 09:55PM
namflashback wrote:
I noticed that Brent Sutter also played with Tambellini during two seasons with the NYI.
Not a real connection there. Tambellini played more with Duane Sutter. Brent was an 18-year-old and played just three games with the Islanders during Tambellini's time and those games came in the year Tambellini was dealt to Colorado.
April 23 2009, 09:57PM
@ Jasmine: I don't know how serious it is -- he played with all year -- and there's no indication from the Oilers that he needs surgery. If he doesn't rest it and it doesn't respond to surgery, it's the kind of condition that can worsen to the point where it could lead to surgery.
April 23 2009, 09:59PM
Robin Brownlee wrote:
respond to surgery,
Should read "respond to treatment."
@Robin Brownlee
While on the topic of coaches, have you heard anything about the health of Pat Burns? I haven't come across any news lately (which is hopefully good news), and if he is well, do you have any idea if he might want to coach again in the NHL? I was a fan of his intelligent, hard nosed approach, although not of the teams he coached. Doesn't that describe the kind of candidate we want?
April 24 2009, 12:03AM
@ DBO: Because of Nagano, Crawford is dead to me. Two negative 99 images in my mind. 1) 99 Tears..journal front page 2) 99 on the bench at Nagano weeping. Glad he got a medal in management.
Plus, I hate hearing Crawford's voice. It's too much like Drederick Tatum
April 24 2009, 01:42AM
Crawford is scum, and a terrible coach to boot. The Oilers dont need a coach who deserves to be driven off a cliff.
April 24 2009, 09:03AM
suntory hanzo wrote:
Plus, I hate hearing Crawford's voice. It's too much like Drederick Tatum
Haha classic!
Steve Moore: Please don't have Bertuzzi smash my face through the ice!!
Crawford: You leave me little recourse
@ Robin Brownlee: I like the idea of Geoff Ward & Scott Arniel getting a significant shot, but as "Duke" said, why hasn't Marc Habschied and Perry Pearn's name come up? (I'm assuming that you're not "hiding" any info from us, but I find it interesting that you've constantly thrown out Ward's name more than anybody else has. I don't know if thats because you personally like him, or if you have any inside info you can't share with us, but you're starting to make me think he'll be "the guy").
Where is Morley Scott and what exactly happened there? (I like Bob, but just wondering where Morley is - I though he was pretty decent too).
What's with the U of A posting (I'm assuming it has to do with Rob Daum officially deciding not return - ??), but why is Thurston in danger of losing his gig? Would he join Daum in Springfield if Daum indeed returns there?
I don't like Roli returning, or JDD much at all. Why is it though that all of the sudden after half a season of stellar play on a Brent Sutter coached team, that Scott Clemmensen (at 34 years of age) seems to get so much play? (Like seriously, thats a legit question that I'm looking for an answer to). No disrespect aimed in his direction, but aside from this (half) season, what other "successes" has he had at the NHL level. He spent a few years as Brodeur's "backup" (playing 10 games a year), and other than that, has been mostly a 3rd string guy. Can he really be trusted to be a legit starter?
@ DBO: I think Renney is pretty similar to MacT (but I could be mistaken).
I know it (probably) won't happen, but if everyone's gonna keep throwing out Brent Sutter's name, how about Ken Hitchcokc? Don't you think he'd love to coach the Oilers some day? It's not likely Howson would want to let him get away, but if people are willing to send a draft pick to New Jersey for Sutter, why couldn't the same approach be used with Hitch? What's Howson's relationship with MacT like? (I know its a far-fetched idea, but I just thought I'd throw it out there).
April 24 2009, 09:21AM
RossCreek wrote:
No disrespect aimed in his direction, but aside from this (half) season, what other "successes" has he had at the NHL level. He spent a few years as Brodeur's "backup" (playing 10 games a year), and other than that, has been mostly a 3rd string guy. Can he really be trusted to be a legit starter?
That's what people said about Tim Thomas. Clemmensen is 31 not 34. I agree that 1 year of work is hardly enough to prove anyone, but Goalies dont mature as quickly as regular skaters and Clemmensen had even fewer games to develop in than regular backups because his starter is Brodeur. It would still be a gamble, but maybe a cheap one.
@ RossCreek: Same guy, just a different hair cut....
April 24 2009, 09:30AM
If they hire Crawford they would be hiring the only coach the fans have more a hate on for than MacT. I couldnt handle Crawford coming out for the press conference and hearing his grating voice speak on behalf of the Oilers for a depressing loss, or watching him stroke his ego after a good win. People say they don't want an "Old Boys Club" member - but I don't want the Vancouver Old boys club here either.
Oh god, Imagine the Assistants Crawford would pick. He seems to be the type to make sure hes the smartest person in the room rather than hire quality people; and with good ol' Marcy Marc that could spell disaster. I could see HMNF acronyms spamming these boards real quickly.


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Lindsay Weir, Deadhead
I was talking with my friend and neighbor Rosa-María during Glee's fall finale about Freaks and Geeks. We were specifically talking about the final episode, "Discos and Dragons," which she just rewatched. In it, Michiganian teen protagonist Lindsay Weir is loaned a copy of The Grateful Dead's American Beauty by her hippie high school guidance counselor Jeff Rosso and steps into a larger world.
I'm not a Deadhead. For those of you watching Community, main character Jeff Winger's religion/Paul Rudd analogy in this week's episode is pretty much exactly how I feel about the band (i.e., we understand the appeal and don't begrudge it, but also don't share it). To me, I've long wondered why anyone would listen to the Dead when there's Santana, a peer jam band that was more rhythmically intesting with a better lead guitarist. And before anyone starts mailing me bootlegs, I have also heard American Beauty. My first listen even took place around some pretty optimal conditions. It didn't take.
That isn't to say that I'm not fanatical about other things. For one, I'm a huge Animal Collective fan, who are themselves a bunch of hippies with a rabid fan base. And while I don't think the two bands sound that much alike, both espouse feel-good truisms like "What do you want me to do, to do for you to see you through?" and "You have your fits I have my fits, but feeling's good." And of course, Animal Collective's "What Would I Want? Sky" samples the Dead.
I'm fanatical about this show too. It's one of my favorite television programs, perhaps of all time, and unlike some of the critically-acclaimed fare of the decade (ex: The Wire, The Sopranos, Mad Men, 30 Rock, The Office, season two of Friday Night Lights, season three of Arrested Development), I don't think I know anyone who has seen Freaks and Geeks and doesn't like it. I'm especially fanatical about how much music factors into both the characters' lives and the tone of the show. For a show set in pre-MTV suburban Michigan, it nails the radio domination of classic rock, the percolation of punk and post-punk, and the general antipathy toward disco. Thus, it makes sense that Lindsay and many of her peers would be into the Dead, as they're also into The Who, Led Zeppelin, and Rush.
As an aside, one of Lindsay Weir's clearest televisual counterparts is not a Deadhead, even though the band was fashionable at the time of her show's season-long run. Angela Chase, the angsty protagonist of ABC's ultra-90s' drama My So-Called Life was given her father's tickets to a Dead concert in "Father Figures" because he couldn't make the show. She scalped them out of anger toward her father, who she caught talking to an attractive woman who was not her mother outside their house. She also did it for the chance to talk to her crush Jordan Catalano, who was willing to buy the tickets from her. But it's also clear that Angela doesn't get what all the fuss over the band is about, much to the ire and bewilderment of her Deadhead friend Rayanne Graff.
I think Lindsay becoming a Deadhead is really interesting. Throughout Freaks and Geeks' 18-episode run on NBC and the Fox Family Channel, Lindsay worked toward defying expectations. Sometimes, these expectations were put upon her by her peers, whether they be her kid brother Sam and his nerdy friends, the Mathletes she used to be close with as a geeky good girl, or the burnouts she hangs out with throughout the series' run. Other times, they were put upon her by authority figures, whether they be the concerned faculty at William McKinley High School or her parents, who feared this bright girl was throwing her life away by running with a bad crowd.
But the best moments for me of this show were when she defied her own expectations, which were already considerable. She does it when dumping freak Nick Andopolis, an otherwise nice boy who was completely wrong for her, and later when she tries to be his friend. She does it when she rejoins the Mathletes only to quit again after realizing that she doesn't get any joy out of it. She does it when she tries pot for the first time, only to discover that she really doesn't like it. She does it when she sticks up for her friend Kim Kelly in English class when they both dismiss Jack Keroauc's On the Road, to the disdain of their pretentious teacher. She does it to dazzling effect when promoting her family's sporting goods shop while sticking it to Vice President George H.W. Bush and his lackeys for throwing out the original question she was going to ask him in assembly during his visit to her school.
She does it here too. Originally skeptical of the Dead's profundity, she gets a gentle nudge from a stoner couple at her school (one of whom is played by Samaire Armstrong, who I enjoyed on The O.C. as Seth Cohen's music geek girlfriend Anna and who had an enviable platinum blonde pixie cut with hot pink roots in the Lindsay Lohan vehicle Just My Luck). When Lindsay gets the record home, she slowly absorbs the music and ends up "getting it," whirling around exuberantly in her room.
As an aside, kudos to actress Linda Cardellini for being able to make what could be an otherwise cheesy scene believable.
Discovering the Dead couldn't come at a better time for Lindsay. As her junior year winds to a close, she finds out that she's been selected to participate at a state-wide academic summit at the University of Michigan. The idea of spending two weeks of summer vacation participating in competitive seminars and hobnobbing with her supposed intellectual peers sounds like a flattering offer but a pointless exercise to her. It sounds like little more than résumé padding to me, though I probably would've gone if offered it at that age).
However, the idea of following the Dead from Texas to Colorado with her Deadhead friends and Kim sounds like an ideal way to spend part of her summer vacation. So she decides to skip out on the symposium to go truckin'.
And while I have no doubt that Lindsay ends up going to a good college anyway, I'd imagine that those two weeks did more to shape her as a young woman than battling wits with a bunch of eggheads about great literary and philosophic work ever could. She's probably the kind of person UC-Santa Cruz are looking for to manage their Grateful Dead collection. At the very least, I'm sure she's got some items to donate.


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By Brendan Conway
The chorus on Wall Street is that conditions are finally right for stock pickers to beat the index in 2014, reversing several years underperforming indexes and ETFs.
Before you scoff, here's the thing. The best data on the subject show that many active managers are already there. Many laggardly track records have seen a reversal.
Anecdotally, you might have noticed American Funds' Growth Fund of America (AGTHX) edged out the S&P 500 for the second straight year, after trailing in three of the previous four. The same thing happened in Janus Contrarian fund (JACNX).
Nearly half (45.7%) of U.S. domestic equity funds beat the S&P Composite 1500 in the year through June 30, according to S&P Dow Jones Indices' S&P Indices Versus Active scorecard, or SPIVA. That's more than twice the three-year beat rate (21.1%) and a significant improvement over the five-year rate (27.9%). A year earlier, the mid-2012 check showed just 10.2% beating.
Some manager categories that got murdered on a relative basis since the financial crisis have recovered. Large-cap core fund managers are a notable example. 46% of them beat SPDR S&P 500 ETF (SPY) in the year through June 30. For the five-year period, only 16.5% did.
This isn't as unusual as index dogmatists might suggest. Active managers have turned in selected periods of outperformance even in periods when you'd think indexing would be pulling far head. For instance, in SPIVA's mid-2010 check, 46% beat.
Here's a test: When was the last year the majority of fund managers beat the S&P 500?


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In my weight loss journey, I've done a lot of talking with our food editor, Ginna Parsons.
She's lost plenty of weight and has given me lots of tips.
I thought I'd pass on the three that have really hit home with me.
The First – Freeze your grapes.
I know, this isn't revolutionary. But I told Ginna, I was eating too many grapes, a fruit that is super high in sugar. I love grapes, but I noticed even more than that, I loved the motion of eating grapes (YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT – it's like eating chips, where your hand goes from bag to mouth, mouth to bag, over and over. That repetitive motion is addicting!).
Ginna suggested I freeze the grapes, that way they'll take longer to eat and I won't eat as many of them at a setting.
This obviously doesn't work for every food, but think about how you can change up your foods so that they're more difficult to eat.
For example – I've been craving snickerdoodle or molasses cookies (I'll go into this more in a minute), but I just say to myself, if I'm going to have a cookie I'll bake my own and make them sugarless. Trust me, I can be lazy when I want to be, and a lot of times knowing I'll have to go through the trouble of baking sugarless cookies from scratch is enough to stop me from craving them. Ginna also suggested hiding your food, if possible. Wrap it up in several different bags or boxes, hide it on a top shelf or put it in your trunk (if it's the kind of food that can be stored that way) – that way, you won't feel compelled to go through all that trouble of getting it back out to eat it.
The Second – If you want a food you know is bad for you, go have one serving of it at a restaurant.
Don't take it home with you, where you can go back to it again and again.
She suggested this to me when I told her about a food I'd been craving.
I've been refined sugarless for the last two months, but I told Ginna, I've been craving the last bit of sweet food that was really delicious: a molasses cookie from The Bakery in Tupelo (I'm sorry if I just made you crave those, but really, they are super-duper yummy). She told me, go ahead, go have one – just don't take a half dozen home with you (something I would have done if I were not trying to lose weight).
That way, I'm nipping my craving in the bud, and I won't have a box of cookies at home to tempt me.
I actually haven't done this yet. It's weird – I used to have the biggest sweet tooth, and I always thought I "had" to have something sweet at least once a day. Now, after going off of refined sugar, I don't really crave sweets that often. If I do, I have a piece of fruit or maybe a piece of sugarfree candy.
The third, which is sort of related to the second – You only TRULY enjoy the first three bites of anything you eat. After those first three bites, you're only eating it because it's there (mindless eating).
Now, I've been bad – I had some fried rice, and I have to say, I TRULY ENJOYED EVERY SINGLE BITE OF THAT. Sorry for the all caps, but seriously, that was some good fried rice. But!! I have had this happen to me, where I think I'm enjoying something, but really I'm not, and I'll realize it if I stop to think. We do that a lot, you know – eating without really thinking about how good or bad something tastes.
We just eat it because it's there.
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A commercial product which collected all this sensor data for a home security system would be awesome. A natural role for home server. A person with a protection order could monitor for the entry of the evil doer into their space. Or a surveillance system in your garden which would detect the presence of dear and do whatever it takes to keep them from eating your vegetables.
On the personal measurement front, are there detectors that can hear heart beats and respiration in the vicinity? No doubt you can measure weight when a person steps on a door mat that contains pressure sensors. An ultimate nerd moment would be when your sound detection and analysis system sends an alert to the server warning that the person at a specific location is suffering from congestive heart failure.
I soooo want to do some of this at my house. I've wanted to set up an array of temperature sensors myself both external and in each room.
I didn't catch. Were all those sensors hard-wired from the windows to the board?
@SteveRichter: The test suite for the heart failure monitor is rough on the participants
Eventually I'd like to try to do something with with temperature outside the house. It would have to be wireless though.
God, he used Apple Max OS, not MicroSoft OS
Can we get a component list and maybe a schematic? This would be kinda fun to play with at home.
That was really cool, and stirs the curiousity. Checked out http://netduino.com/ looks cool
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It seem impossible for me to get rid of all the windows server that our company still has, some have custom software made years ago that no one want to touch, other have management console for Vmware or Cisco appliance..that run only on Windows or again some product relesed their software only for windows, so in short i still have to login sometime on a Windows server from my PC with Linux, so what's the best way to do this ?
The best protocol to do this is RDP. Remote Desktop Protocol (RDP) is a proprietary protocol developed by Microsoft, which provides a user with a graphical interface to another computer. Clients exist for most versions of Microsoft Windows (including Windows Mobile), Linux, Unix, Mac OS X, Android, and other modern operating systems. By default the server listens on TCP port 3389
Microsoft currently refers to their official RDP server software as Remote Desktop Services, formerly "Terminal Services". Their official client software is currently referred to as Remote Desktop Connection, formerly "Terminal Services Client".
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Writing Prompt: A room without books is like . . .
Meet the ancient philosopher and political statesman, named Marcus Tullius Cicero, Cicero for short. He lived in the 1st Century B.C.E., yet he was not so different from you or me. He had a great quote that people who love books . . . well . . . love! He said:
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By PATSY STODDARDEditor
The Emery County Commissioners met in their regularly scheduled meeting on March 19 at 9 a.m. Those present were Commissioners Randy Johnson, Ira Hatch and Drew Sitterud. Also present was Dave Blackwell, county attorney.
Maughn Guymon said a word of prayer at the beginning of the meeting and Carol Cox led those present in the pledge of allegiance. The first item of business was to add an executive session to discuss personnel matters as the last item on the agenda. Darrel Leamaster from the Castle Valley Special Service District was first on the agenda. He was representing the Emery County project review committee. He presented the project list which has been prepared to submit to the Community Impact Board. The local communities all submit a wish list for projects. Short term projects number 19 at a cost of 17 million. These projects are assigned a priority with an A, B, or C.
"This is the way the CIB has asked for these lists to be submitted to them. Emery Town has requested 11.5 million to install a pipeline, but most of the requests are substantially less than that. The medium term list is not prioritized and the entities are looking for funding in the next six years for those. There are $27.6 million worth of projects on the medium term list. I need the commission to look at and approve the list so it can be submitted to the CIB before the first of April," said Leamaster.
Commissioner Johnson commented that in the submissions the communities were relying heavily on grants and he hoped they had other alternate plans for funding and would be prepared if low or no interest loans were offered. The grant money from the CIB has decreased over recent years.
Commissioner Hatch wondered how close the total figure costs for the projects might be. Leamaster said there might be some difference but the figures were pretty close. A motion was made to approve the list for short and medium term capital improvements to be submitted to the CIB. Leamaster said he would take care of submitting the list.
The check edit, requisitions and dispositions were next on the agenda. Clerk Bruce Funk presented the list to the commissioners. A question on the cost of the gas bills at the Ferron Library was discussed. Commissioner Sitterud pointed out it was twice as much as the other libraries. The librarian present from Ferron said they would have the gas company come and check out the facility. Other questions in costs raised were the $900 gas bill at the museum and the $200 phone bill. Rex Funk from the road department explained the cost of $1,150 for the rebuilding of pumps and also the need for two windows in the office area where there is dead air space and no circulation or ventilation for the employee involved. The lists were approved.
The next item on the agenda was Pat Snowball with a request for a time and wage increase for an employee at the Ferron Library. After discussion the increase was approved. It was pointed out that personnel is the biggest expense for the libraries. Snowball's next request was for family leave time for an employee of the road department. The practice of employees donating time to an employee who doesn't have the time banked was discussed. This is done on a totally voluntary basis and the employee in need remains anonymous. The request was approved.
The next item on the agenda was a presentation by representatives from Consol. Bart Hyita presented an update. He said, "Consol operated until 1990 and the technology used was a continuous miner. We supplied coal to IPP in Delta and operated in two miner sections. We sold a blend product and the market for the product dryed up. The mine is now in poorer condition than we anticipated. We have contacted big customers in the east and midwest but we haven't had success. With the mild winter the demand has dropped off. We have contacted PacifiCorp and Los Angeles water and power for some test burns. We will look at selling smaller quantities in larger lot sizes.
"The coal is good quality and we will look to selling smaller volumes. We are a small player in the coal scene in Emery County. We are the little guy. We are a large coal company but just have a small operation in this area. This will be a disadvantage starting out but we hope to get bigger and be a long term player in Emery County and provide tax revenue for the county. We will start with local customers and do some test burns for the four major power plants in the area. We hope to get started in the next couple of quarters," said Hyita.
Seth McCourt, also from Consol spoke next he hung up a map of the mine and explained the former workings and where they hope to go in at this time. He said, "In mid-January we opened the doors to go into the mine and it was worse than anticipated. In the old workings there were stability problems. We are looking at a productive way to access reserves. The newer entries are in good shape. We will seal off the old workings and start new. We estimate there are 15-16 million tons of recoverable reserves which will be mined with a continuous miner.
"We are in favor of the proposed county loop road through Consol property and would like to discuss funding on that with you," said McCourt.
Rex Funk said the loop road would be a benefit in the area for farmers to access their lower properties and also to keep the trucks from Live Earth out of the residential areas of the town of Emery. It would also help with snow removal in the area and be more convenient for the road department.
McCourt said, "We have started the permitting on the other section of the mine." Commissioner Hatch wondered whose property the section was on. McCourt responded that some are federal lease and also Consol owned property. Val Payne wondered if the 4th East portal had been approved. McCourt said they have the approval to access coal, but are putting together the information to submit for the coal handling facility. Payne wondered what time frame they were looking at for reopening. McCourt said their goal was to be producing coal by Oct. 1. He mentioned the coal market would dictate production. But they hoped to mine 350,000 ton the first year. But, that production was subject to change.
Commissioner Johnson said, "We appreciate your coming today to give us an update and we anticipate the long awaited reopening of the mine."
Rosann Fillmore, economic development director for Emery County was next on the agenda. She said the Industrial Park board has agreed to sell what's left of that property to Talon Resources. She pointed out the Industrial Park would keep the wet portion. Talon would purchase the remaining 12.3 acres. The commission approved the agreement.
The next item on the agenda was the citizen's concerns. Eugene Johansen said he had a few remarks. He was interested in Consol and mentioned that Energy West mines seven million ton per year, Suffco-five million ton, Skyline four million ton, Genwal-three million ton and Co-op Mine just under a million ton per year. He said he had a question about the new public safety complex. He said he had looked through the books on statutes but could not find anything pertaining to what governs an open canal. He was concerned about the safety issue of annexing it and putting it in the middle of Castle Dale City. He said a fence would be needed on both sides of the canal leaving 50 feet on each side. This would cost approximately a half a million dollars. This needs to be addressed and plans made as to how to handle this. Would the water users pay? Would they get a grant? Would the county build it? These are questions that need to be addressed stressed Johansen.
Commissioner Johnson explained that the only reason Castle Dale City is annexing the public safety complex is because the State court has successfully secured funding to join the project and they have to be within the boundaries of the county seat in order to meet state statutes. Castle Dale City will be annexing a line of property to run to the jail. Commissioner Johnson described the situation as a dilemma and said, "We have to obviously be creative in dealing with the canal."
Commissioner Hatch wondered who normally would be responsible for maintaining the canal. No one could answer that question. Commissioner Johnson said that they would have to look at the annexation in a new light.
The next item on the agenda was the approval of the issuance of a business license for Genwal. The next item on the agenda was the approval of the reappointment of Mack Huntington and Ken Stilson to the Planning and Zoning Commission. The next item on the agenda was the approval of the appointment of Jackie Ungerman to the Emery County Travel Bureau.
The next item on the agenda was the presentation by Bruce Funk on the school district boundaries. They are reviewed every 10 years based on the information gathered from the census. It was determined that the boundaries were within limits and that the numbers were closer than they were previously. Commissioner Hatch made a motion to reaffirm the boundaries as they are currently mapped.
The next item on the agenda was the transfer of watershares to Castle Dale City to cover the needs at the public safety complex. The May Tax Sale was set for May 23 at 10 a.m. at the courthouse. The next item was the approval of the minutes with a few minor changes. In the commission reports the commissioners reminded citizens of the upcoming meetings on the Monument proposal. The meeting was adjourned into executive session.
The next commission meeting will be held on April 2 at 4 p.m.


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Comfortable, and made with food service, hospitality, and health care workers in mind. The Crocs™ Bistro gives you all you need in an on-the-job shoe—from slip-resistance to extra protection at the toe.
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I wanted to wait for a while before I reviewed these shoes as I have had a lot of cooks shoes that sounded great out of the box but did not live up to expectations in the long term. I purchased these in april of 2014 and it is now the end of february 2015. below are my observations. Overall they are comfortable but they do take some adjusting to , there is a small ridge that runs parallel to the base of your toes that will kind of be uncomfortable till your feet toughen up. but once broken in they are really super comfortable. the front of the shoes are made of a durable thick rubber that is spill proof and cleans easily, I just hose mine off every night after my shift and they look like new. they are very very durable , after 10 months at 40 hours a week they still look like new and the soles hardly show any signs of wear. the non slip surface of the soles is absolutely great and will stick tight to the greasiest and wettest floors however if you do not work on rubber mats they have a tendency to accumulate a thick layer of crud which can be very slippery when you hit a wet spot, I end up having to spray the soles clean at least one time a night, rubber mats seem to keep the crud scraped clean by comparison. overall for the price I feel that these are the bar none best cooks shoes I have EVER purchased all of the others fall apart after 4-6 months and are often much less comfortable to wear.
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This is my third pair of Crocs and unfortunately the least comfortable I have purchased. They are inflexible, extremely tight, and narrow in spite of the fact that the listing says they're roomy. I've worn them for about 2 hours hoping they would relax a bit but no go.....If I don't wear socks they're okay but it's winter and the ones I just disposed of, 5 years old, were much more comfortable and more of a roomy fit. I have to wear these in the chicken coop because I can't get chicken poo on my good shoes so I hobble through my chores with them on. I'm almost reluctant to try another pair even of a different style because I'm concerned that the next pair also won't fit and then I'll be out the money for both pair!! ~sigh~ What a disappointment.
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i love these shoes have been wearing them for work for 8 yrs. they usually last about 2 yrs, good for me i went through sneakers every 6 months, . i am a cook in a nursing home . working on those hard floors is hard on feet and legs. i wear my crocs eberyday my legs and feet never hurt. i want to mention i have vericose veins, theses shoes are great. love them please dont ever stop making them
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Great for around the homestead and garden. Easy clean up after picking vegetables after a rain.
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These Crocs are of good quality. Only time will tell how long the Non-Slip Material will last but that is to be expected. The Croc its self is quite comfortable, after a little wearing in. My only complaint is that it runs a little big. I wish I would've ordered probably one whole size down. Also, if you have big feet like me (size 12) it can look a little like a clown shoe.
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