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Patience my ass...
Robin Brownlee
January 02 2009 10:49PM
"Patience my ass. I'm going to kill something."
Anybody boomer-age or even those over 35 might remember that line from a popular T-shirt and poster from the 1970s that featured two hungry looking buzzards sitting in a tree. And, while patience is often a virtue, I'm with the buzzards when it comes to the pitiful excuse for penalty killing that we've seen from the Edmonton Oilers this season -- a PK that sits ranked 28th.
Wanye note: It's true. I found this badge on the internet confirming this story:
But, while we wait for Kevin Lowe or GM Steve Tambellini to address what is obviously a glaring weakness by acquiring a centre who can win face-offs shorthanded -- call me crazy, I think that might help -- I thought I'd get the takes of captain Ethan Moreau and Shawn Horcoff.
Did they agree it's time to make a personnel move? Did they acknowledge the inability to win face-offs is a significant problem? Well, no and sort of. So what's the answer? To hear them tell it, patience. Yes, 36 games into the season, patience would be a good place to start.
Patience? Pardon?
"There's a lot of new guys, a lot of new personnel," Moreau said. "It's going to take some time to know each other's tendencies, so we have to change our system a little bit to be more predictable." And here's what Horcoff, who kills more penalties than any other Edmonton forward, has to say. "It's a matter of trying to get everyone on the same page and adapted to the same system," Horcoff said with a straight face.
"Even on the back end, too. We've got some different personnel on the back end, too. That takes time. I actually believe familiarity is more important on the PK than it is on the power play."
Now, I've got a lot of respect for Moreau and Horcoff and I've known them since they were rookies, but I have difficulty buying the argument the penalty killing is atrocious -- 42 goals allowed in 159 attempts -- because the Oilers have new players and it's going to take time for them to become a cohesive unit. It just isn't so.
Among defenceman, Steve Staios gets more shorthanded ice time than any Oiler at 3:50 per game. Sheldon Souray is next at 3:49, followed by Tom Gilbert at 2:33 and Jason Strudwick at 1:47. Among forwards, Horcoff leads with 3:15 per game. Kyle Brodziak is next at 2:51, followed by Moreau at 2:35 and the injured Fernando Pisani at 2:24.
Now, did I fall down the stairs and hit my head, or is this pretty much the same core group of players that did the bulk of the penalty killing last season, when the Oilers finished ranked fifth on the PK?
Moreau points out that the fans aren't alone in the frustration they feel at watching the Oilers trot out the same inept act every night. It's worse for the players -- even if they get paid to participate in the failure as opposed to paying to witness it.
"After games, everybody is frustrated," he said. "I'm out there getting scored on, so as frustrated as a coach or fan could be, we're five times that. The guys who are out there blocking shots and trying to kill the penalties are the most frustrated. We're putting in the effort every night."
When asked about the possibility of Tambellini making a deal to bolster a group that hasn't done the job, Moreau shrugged it off.
"There's not much we can do about that," he said. "Personnel, that's not up to us. If you're on the penalty killing unit, you try to do what the coaches tell you to do, stay within your system and work hard. That's all you can do."
Anybody with half-a-brain can see the Oilers need a centre who can win a face-off and kill penalties to make up for the losses of Jarret Stoll and Marty Reasoner. When Horcoff is the Oilers best overall centre on the dot at 51.8 per cent but is just 61-89 shorthanded, it's tough to argue.
"Maybe now this year, with them (face-offs) being in the zone so much," Horcoff said when asked if poor performance on the dot is the single biggest factor that has the penalty killing struggling so mightily.
"Face-offs aren't just one guy's stat. I think people who know the game and watch the game realize the help is and how important those 50-50 battles are . . . especially on the PK."
"That's one part of the issue," Moreau said. "There's face-offs. There's predictability. There's goaltending. Those are the things that kill penalties. There's so many things that go into it. I don't think you can simply say we need a face-off guy."
Patience my ass . . .
-- Listen to Robin Brownlee every Thursday from 4 to 6 p.m. on Just A Game with Jason Gregor on TEAM 1260.
January 02 2009, 11:01PM
I always find it funny when players say they're way more frustrated than fans etc. The big difference is those dudes are getting paid stupendous amounts to play a freaking game, where fans spend time and money (significant money for those who can consistently afford tickets) to watch. Trust me, if you've paid $100 for a ticket only to watch the Oil lose 3-2 to a 3rd string goalie (as was my experience at a St. Louis game a few years back) then you'll know frustration. Especially at $8.50 a beer.
hockeysmack wrote:
Trust me, if you've paid $100 for a ticket only to watch the Oil lose 3-2 to a 3rd string goalie (as was my experience at a St. Louis game a few years back) then you'll know frustration. Especially at $8.50 a beer.
Sorry only newer beefs are allowed on here. If I had a nickel for every game in the last three years I'd be making Horcoff money
I do not buy Moreau's comments about taking time to gel???
Our team was good enough to go 14-5-1 down the stretch last year.
Sather always used to say that you need 10 - 15% turnover every year (even from a cup winner). We turned over roughly 20% of our roster from the end of last season.
The following players from that run were not on our roster to start this season:
Greene, Stoll, Reasoner, Glencross, Pitkanen
All we added to start this year were: Souray, Moreau, Cole, Horcoff, Visnovsky
Let me ask you – can you name one GM in the league that wouldn't swap those 5 players?
We can't blame Lowe for making our team better.
We might need to ad different personnel to help shore things like the PK and face-offs??? But rather than try and change a bunch more players – wouldn't it be a wise idea to see if maybe we can hire someone that can actually get something out of the roster we currently have? After all they were good enough last year…weren't hey?
I don't have the exact stats –but I would assume that the PK was pretty good down the stretch last year. Is exchanging Reasoner, Stoll and Greene for Moreau, Horcoff and Souray really a downgrade?
Do we really even need to compare Pitkanen and Visnovsky???
So this whole thing leaves me with a few conclusions:
#1 – Either Glencross is a far better player than Eric Cole and we owe all of our success to Mr. GlenX!!
#2 – Last year's late season success was a total fluke and should be forever erased from our memory banks.
Either way, if Pete Peeters needs to see at least 2 consistent seasons out of a goalie before he can make up his mind (and MacT must agree) – what are we to think of a coach that had (or did he) the ability to guide a roster to a successful season last year – and can't do it again? It has been no real issue to shove our MVP aside and go another route – maybe we should try this with the coaching staff???
January 03 2009, 04:10AM
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January 03 2009, 05:49AM
I'm too old for this shit.
With Moreau and Staios being:
1)two veteran leaders 2)major PK players 3)praised and never questioned by the coach 4)two of the worst performing Oilers this year
Is this disconnect between their roles/play/accountability with the coach causing disruptions in the dressing room with the newer and younger players?
@ Darcy: Is that a rhetorical question?
January 03 2009, 09:08AM
The biggest reason why its just not working, that i can see this year over last, is shots blocked. Nobody blocks shots. Maybe it's cuz we're not quite to the halfway mark and nobodies cared enough thus far to take a knee and get in front of a few point shots. Maybe its coaching... It looks to me that this is the major difference and some if not most of the change has come after we lost two very good shot blockers. Stoll and Reasoner. These guys would spend about 50% of their kills hobblin around on one leg after taking one to the ankle. Also to a lesser degree their d-zone draws.
Don't they make extra protection these days ????
Robin, the mood seems to be really turning, is there any chance we are gonna see a deal or coaching change? Or, are we gonna go to the trade deadline getting spoon fed this crap?
January 03 2009, 09:41AM
Staois is the leader in PK minutes and could have an even wider lead in that stat but the puck always ends up in the back of our net when he's out there.
January 03 2009, 10:23AM
@ Milli: a coaching change in Edmonton - nope - a deal - hardly - but who cares we are sold out and the romance of a new building will keep the oiler faithful under the trance for the next 10 years - this could impact the $50K personal seat license pyramid scheme Katz needs to pull off his $100 million input to control the development and suck $400 mm via the Northlands scam - since he borrowed $100 mm to buy the team ... we are the toronto maple leafs of the west - finish 9th, 10th and keep Rexall clear in April for concerts.
Darcy wrote:
Robin, With Moreau and Staios being: 1)two veteran leaders 2)major PK players 3)praised and never questioned by the coach 4)two of the worst performing Oilers this year Is this disconnect between their roles/play/accountability with the coach causing disruptions in the dressing room with the newer and younger players?
Staios has sucked. I agree there. Moreau? He's played the same game his whole career. He still blocks shots and rubs out his man. He even pots some points at about the same pace he always has. He answers the bell when Tootoo runs our best forward. I don't think Moreau is the problem.
January 03 2009, 10:40AM
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Sad that the gorvernment will bend over backwards - with Mandel giving out cash like Santa Claus for the arts - the prov government spending coin on the museum and the common fan that attends Rexall will be shunned with debate - problem is that the team is privately run - so if you dont like the product dont buy tickets - if you think you could run the team better - put in an offer or apply for the vacant coach position in Feb.
@ Cam:
He's not the problem.....nor the solution!!!
Any team with a 4th line role player as its captain is bound for mediocrity!!!!
January 03 2009, 11:08AM
lets face it Oilers nation and oilers fans know changes need to be made but the good old boys club they do not. They have even converted Tambo to this belief that we are just fine!!! we do not need a Oil change we need a complete over haul!!! I thought that Mr Katz would expect a better result from his investment but maybe he does not care. The biggest problem I see is that this organization likes to live in the past.
@ rindog: Which of these clowns would you make captain? Is there a single Oiler with both skill, and heart? Souray the injury prone UFA? Hemskey the mute? Horcoff? Penner? The adolescent line with their squeaky voices? Roli for captain? What kind of lineup lacks even a viable candadate for captain?
January 03 2009, 11:32AM
So when I was saying that we needed changed 20 games ago and everyone said to be patient and we're still floating around .500 do I still look like a bandwagon jumper?
Here's a thought, this team has gone through more players in the past few years than I can count. Maybe it's the guy the runs the team and implements the system that needs to go.
Who would have thought Cole would start producing if he was put with someone with skill rather than shot blocking pluggers?
Forget not the Fire MacT Bandwagon, friends. It's sitting in my driveway with last nights kill.
@ Chris:
That is an easy question to answer...anyone but Moreau!!
Just curious as to what makes you call Souray injury prone?
The two years prior to signing with Edmonton he played 75 and 81 games (not bad for a physical defenseman). He only played 63 games the in 03/04.
He missed alot a games last year (which would happen to most if they fell to the ice with 200+lb guy on top and used their shoulder to break the fall????).
When we signed Souray he was one of the biggest UFAs of that offseason and had just come off of an allstar season. He would have been by far the best choice. It would have marked a new direction for the club and a new beginning so to speak.
Horcoff would have been a better choice, but had a bad year the year before we named Moreau as captain. Even still he would have been much better.
If we weren't going to make Souray the captain, the obvious choice would have been Jared Stoll. He had just come off a fantastic season and had even been touted as a future captain when we drafted him. He thenwent on tohave a dismal season and the rest is history...
Hemsky would have been an outside option (although we had better choice...see above). Just because he doesn't talk to the media doesn't mean he doeasn't (or can't) talk in the dressing room???
Regardless, it is no secret that your captain should one of your best players (look around the league). You need someone that is going to be able to lead your team ON the ice as well as off. What good is a captain if he is sitting on the bench for 48-50 minutes a game (oh that's right, MacT made the profound statement that your captain can't be playing on the 4th line - so he gave Moreau 17-18 minutes a night????)?
@ baggedmilk:
I recall the common line from Robin? I'm not sure who, but it was we have to give it 40 games...Well, we're damn close to 40 games. Tambo or Klo....pull the trigger and shake this mess up so we can promote MacT at seasons end, and maybe, just maybe get a coach.
You always hear about how tight the room is, but there are rumblings that all is not well between two groups of players. Actually a lot of the rumblings come from your direction, and I just wanted to ask the question point blank.
@Cam: Moreau has the worst penalty kill stats by Oiler forwards, and its not close. His Goals Against/60min of penalty kill is 13.04. The next closest is Reddox at 11.61, Horc at 10.83 Penner at 9.36. Cogliano is 2.21 and Cole is 1.75.
With those numbers in mind, he seems to be blaming others for the PK's lack of success.
Couple that with his selfish penalties away from the puck. (his 62pim is only behind Sortini on the team), and the picture of his performance just gets worse.
When you boil down the numbers and get a brain cramp from digesting all the info like Corsi #'s etc, you soon get indigestion because some of the Oiler's statistically worst players (Moreau to some extent, Staois, Strudwick, Reddox, Gagner earlier in the season) are never the players singled out by the coach for poor play.
That Visnovsky trade is starting to look bad, not that he isn't holding up his end of the deal, but getting rid of one of the best guys on the dot & plug defenceman. Who would have thought that - hopefully Tambo can parlay the exess of puck moving dmen into some player that we need.
Once MacI comes off of the IR this team is going to have to change in a big way - too many players. I think that in the next couple of weeks some changes coming.
Just got my OilersNation schwag - looks sharp!
Robin I remember you last Deep Thoughts post. It was a while ago, not sure how many games. You had mentioned after 20 games. You also said that if we didnt go on one hell of a tear questions and answers would follow.
Well if we lose tonight there is a good chance we are 14 th in the west. That is not good enough.
Is Mact feeling the heat yet?
Deep Oil wrote:
@ Milli: a coaching change in Edmonton - nope - a deal - hardly - but who cares we are sold out and the romance of a new building will keep the oiler faithful under the trance for the next 10 years - this could impact the $50K personal seat license pyramid scheme Katz needs to pull off his $100 million input to control the development and suck $400 mm via the Northlands scam - since he borrowed $100 mm to buy the team … we are the toronto maple leafs of the west - finish 9th, 10th and keep Rexall clear in April for concerts.
I seriously wish I didn't have to read this guys ramblings everyday. Why do you bother coming here or watching if everything is so bad?
@ Gary: It's therapudic.
January 03 2009, 12:44PM
@ Gary: because its like watching the keystone cops - how bad can it get and everyone still keeps their job.....
January 03 2009, 12:51PM
Milli wrote:
Robin, the mood seems to be really turning, is there any chance we are gonna see a deal or coaching change? Or, are we gonna go to the trade deadline getting spoon fed this crap?
joanne ireland - game day - http://www.edmontonjournal.com/sports/hockey/edmonton-oilers/Game/1137670/story.html
I'll say it again, the cavalry isn't coming," MacTavish said. "This is a non-trade league right now, so we have to keep that in mind, and I know for sure that the structure can still improve with the group that we have. ________________________________________________________
DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION - KLOWE HAS NO DANCE PARTNER - lose tonight and the Blues are within reach...
RB: Obviously you're missing the fact that Stoll and Reasoner killed penalties last year as well;)
The Oilers really don't try to block shots all that much anymore, they don't pressure down-ice, they're content to let the opposing team set up and they don't put their sticks in the passing lines.
Other than that they're ****ing golden!:)
Someone somewhere had a post about how a PK unit featuring such notables as Petersen, Thoresen and Pouliot kept the club in the top 10 even when the ship was rotten down the stretch in '07. I see a lot of guys with the knives out for Buchberger but it looks an awful lot like the coaching staff tried to change an approach that had always worked.
Then again, maybe for all his speed a guy like 13 isn't smart enough to kill penalties; the same could go for 26 for that matter. I know Cole had a nice rep as a good plus player heading into his Oilers career but early on I opined that the guy was clueless when he was pinned in his own end. And at this point 18 just runs around like a chicken with his head cut off.
January 03 2009, 01:11PM
FYI. Watch the PK tonight and you should see a difference in their style. They will be more aggressive on the PK. FINALLY. They have been to passive for too long and it looks like they will finally change. They might actually get to some lose pucks and get it down the ice.
Also, Rindog are you seriously whining about who is captain, like that would make a difference. Moreau plays 15:30 a game, and he plays a grand total of :11 of PP time a game, yet he is 6th on the team in goals, and only Hemsky has more goals five-on-five. How can you complain about his ice time. He actually produces. Name nine forwards that should be ahead of him?
I'm not saying Moreau is the best captain in the league, but at the time there was no better choice. Horcoff being captain wouldn't change how much ice time Moreau gets. Moreau gives you the same effort every night, which is something way too many of the soft players on this team don't.
But ripping on one of the few players who actually plays with heart is ridiculous. MacTavish makes a lot of questionable calls, but playing Moreau 15 minutes a night is not one of them. The only problem is that if this team wants to make a real shake up they have two options.
A) Make a blockbuster deal. Which will be very hard with the cap.
B) Trade Moreau because that will get the room's attention.
The problem is that trading Moreau will make them even softer. I doubt you trade him for a player who brings the same energy. But if this team really wants to shake up the room, he is the one that would get everyone's attention.
As for Hemsky being Captain because he is the best player, it will never happen. He hates talking to the media, and that is one of the most timing consuming parts of the job. He would hate doing it, and that's why he isn't the captain. And not sure you noticed but the best player in the league, Ovechkin, isn't the Captain of his team.
January 03 2009, 01:12PM
@ Chris: I agree with Gary
@ Jason Gregor:
It seems to me like the problems for the Oil are changing, which to me is a good sign.
For a while they just couldn't score, but lately the goals have started to come from all corners of the team (Even Zack scored one).
Penner and Horcoff weren't performing, but lately they have been producing about a point per game (since Penner was called out and brought back to line #1).
Now the problem is a soft PK and faceoffs, which ahs been the problem all year. If they manage to address those needs I can see the team turning a corner.
They look like a better team on the ice. They don't seem outclassed as much anymore. Early on even when they won they didn't look all that great, but lately they seem to have their game back... even if the results have been streaky.
I guess I just want to go on record and say that things seem to be getting better and I think the team could get on a tear here... especially if Hemmer gets back in the lineup. No team doesn't feel the pain when their best player is out of the lineup.
Dennis wrote:
RB: Obviously you're missing the fact that Stoll and Reasoner killed penalties last year as well;)
Yes, I missed that. It never dawned on me.
@ Jason Gregor: Jason Gregor wrote:
Moreau plays 15:30 a game, and he plays a grand total of :11 of PP time a game, yet he is 6th on the team in goals, and only Hemsky has more goals five-on-five. How can you complain about his ice time. He actually produces. Name nine forwards that should be ahead of him?
Jason, is Moreau here to produce, or hes being paid to do his job? (Being a leader, bring energy, and a solid penalty killer.) Moreau does bring energy, as he should as a 3rd-4th line guy. Heres a question, has he proven that hes the right leader for this team? Where has he taken this team? You can only ask so much from your energy player, that is why he isnt the perfect choice.
As Robin mentioned, Moreau plays a significant role on the PK, and it is not working. Im not just blaming Moreau for everything, but at some point you need to look at your leaders (Moreau and Staios), who are failing at the only thing they're being paid to do?
By no means im suggesting that Moreau should be dealt, but he should only be a complimentary player at best, not someone we should rely on. If thats the case, then your hockey team is obviously not a good one.
@ BUCK75: Can you imagine what this team will look like with less puck moving? This is an already offensively challenged team, and without the ability of Visnovsky, it could be worse.
That was one of the best trades that Lowe has made in my opinion. We acquired an all-star puck mover whos signed for 5 years, for a 3rd line center who didnt have a contract, and a bottom pairing defenseman. Trust me, it is much easier to find a faceoff guy than finding a skilled defenseman like Visnovsky.
The problem is, as Robin mentioned, the management is not TRYING to find that guy.
Like Jason said, the Oilers spent a lot of time again this morning working on the PK, with an emphasis on quicker movement in tracking and pressuring the puck. The two units in drills were Horcoff and Moreau up front with Grebeshkov and Staios and Cole with Brodziak, Souray and Gilbert.
Moreau and Penner spent some time practising face-offs. The missing component, at least for me, is the ongoing absence of Cogliano and the speed he'd bring in puck pursuit. The problem, as we all know by now, is that hideous face-off percentage of his.
@ RobinB: Robin, i have always been wondering why Grebeshkov is considered a better penalty killer than Visnovsky. Do you know the rationale behind this? To me, Grebeshkov is the worst 1 on 1 defesenman on this team. It is very often to see him get beat.
January 03 2009, 02:02PM
Hoss81 wrote:
Jason, is Moreau here to produce, or hes being paid to do his job? (Being a leader, bring energy, and a solid penalty killer.) Moreau does bring energy, as he should as a 3rd-4th line guy. Heres a question, has he proven that hes the right leader for this team? Where has he taken this team? You can only ask so much from your energy player, that is why he isnt the perfect choice. Im not just blaming Moreau for everything, but at some point you need to look at your leaders (Moreau and Staios), who are failing at the only thing they're being paid to do? By no means im suggesting that Moreau should be dealt, but he should only be a complimentary player at best, not someone we should rely on. If thats the case, then your hockey team is obviously not a good one.
I don't think the Oilers rely on him to be the difference maker. He makes an impact, but not a great one.
As a leader on the ice I think Moreau does the job. Inside the room is an area that seems to be lacking, but that is really hard to judge since we only see a small percentage of what goes on in there. There are some rumblings that the room isn't the same, but I have a theory why.
They are no MIDDLE men in that room now. There are two distinct groups. Veterans and then young guys. Last year Stoll, Torres and Greene bridged that gap. They weren't long standing veterans, but they weren't young guys in terms of experience anymore. I think they were a good connector between the two sides. I don't think there is any animosity amongst the vets or kids now, but there doesn't seem to be a really close connect either. I don't think one guy could connect that. And if you think Horcoff or Souray would be a better captain, then they should be able to connect the two sides regardless of whether they have a C on their jersey or not.
I do think the veterans as a group have to allow the kids some room to lead themselves. But I also don't get a sense that there is a young guy who has great leadership ability. Stoll had that, none of the younger guys have shown that yet.
@ Hoss81: Fair question, and one I should've asked by now. The problems I see with Visnovsky on the PK are that he's small and doesn't bring a physical element and, given his stature, he lacks reach and the ability to tip pucks in the passing lanes and otherwise disrupt the opposition.
January 03 2009, 02:05PM
@ RobinB: I just wanted to say that I saw a pic of Mr. Brownlee from the 70s, that I will have to get on this site. He was a svelte 220 with four inch platform shoes, and tight jean shirt. CLASSIC I say...Mark my words I will get that pic into the hands of Wanye...It needs to be shown to the Nation.
@ RobinB: That I can see, but i dont think hes been given nearly enough opportunity to prove himself as a non-penalty killer. Grebeshkov is also not very big, not very strong, and i dont think he has the patience and the speed that Lubomir Visnovsky has. At this point, i dont think it can hurt us more to try something new.
@ Jason Gregor: Don't even think about it. Those pictures are not for public consumption. I use them only as proof I wasn't always a balding, cynical, old sportswriter because, I'm guessing, some people wouldn't believe it.
As for Wanye, if he OKs any such release on this site, I'm posting the photos from the night he fuelled up on tequila and red bull and stumbled into the Valley Zoo with his panty hose as a hat.
@ Hoss81: Agreed.
@ Jason Gregor: Yeah i can see how that would be a problem. My argument is simply that the veterans are not doing a great job leading this team this season. They should be the ones who can help out the young guys when they're struggling, and I'm just not seeing a lot of that. I've been questioning the coach for a while, and still do, but at some point not only the coach, but also the veterans have to take some blames for the season so far.
You have more connection with the players, do you sense that Gagner might have some of that "Jonathan Toews mentality" in the future if he gets an opportunity?
@ Jason Gregor:
MacT said himself earlier this year.
He said that you can't have your captain on the 4th line...
Well then don't make a 4th player your captain!!!!
I hate to bring this up again Gregs, but you are looking at results again.
Yes Moreau is 6th on the team in goals with 8. Have you really looked at the goals he scored? He got gifts from Turco and Ward (he could take those shots 100 more times and not score once). He has an empty netter. He scored a goal against Kipper early this year that even Kipper admitted he played poorly. He scored a tap in goal (after 3 whacks) from Hemsky against Toronto. He scored a few decent ones other than that??
I realize you (and others) are going question why I would critique the goals and just be happy that he got them. That is a fair point except you are using his production as justification for his minutes. It's not like he is (or has been) going out there and creating offensive chances.
His role on our team is simple. It is to create energy and shut down the opposition. He is not relied upon to score goals (nor was Penner when he played on the 3rd line).
Only until recently has his ice time been more realistic. In the last 10 games he has only been over 15 minutes twice. In the 25 games prior to that – he only dropped below 15 minutes 5 times and was above 16 minutes 17 times.
I do not have a problem with Moreau as a player. I have a problem with the importance that has been placed on our supposed role players??
That being said – you yourself said you are happy with the 15 minutes per game that Moreau is averaging. With those minutes, Moreau has managed to take twice as many minor penalties as the next forward. The thing is, the penalties he is taking are not even hard-working, gritty penalties. The majority (75% - I can list them all if you want or you can take my word) are stick penalties (slashing, tripping, hooking, etc) which could be considered selfish penalties….
The core of our team for the past number of years (Reasoner, Staios, Moreau, Pisani) has been made up of "MacT" type players that are safe and hard working.
Take a look at this link. If you go down the list – the majority of captains in the NHL are the best players on their teams.
You mentioned that Ovechkin is not the captain of his team. What you failed to mention is that AO just finished his first season in the NHL and was only 19 when Clark was named team captain? I can assure you that when Clark is gone – Ovechkin will be named captain.
You say that there were no other options at the time?? Stoll and Horcoff played in all situations at the time Gator left??? They were both far better options. Sheldon Souray was heads and tails the best choice when he came here in the offseason. He was our highest paid player (at the time), an all star, a shutdown dman, a PP leader, and a veteran. The only thing he had going against him was that he was new to the team. That being said, was there anything wrong with giving him that responsibility and changing the direction of our team?
Finally, I agree with you that Moreau gives a great effort every night. He can still do that with or without a "C' on his sweater. What he can't do is actually lead his team to a victory. He can't go out and get 5 points in a divisional game against our provincial rivals. He can't score a game tying goal late in game while he is sitting on the bench (at least he should be unless his coach puts him out with the extra attacker - ie. Ottawa).
Our safe, risk free, ineffective coach gave the captaincy to another supporting player (like himself) as a reward for hard work and dedication. I appreciate the gesture but it doesn't make our team better.
When you have an average player as your captain you're destined to have an average team….
@ Jason Gregor:
I should have also added that Moreau has just recently dropped to 6th on the team in even strength icetime (after spending a long time at 3rd).
Horcoff: 14:14 Hemsky: 14:06 Cole: 13:08 Gagner: 12:58 Penner: 12:51 Moreau: 12:47 Pisani: 12:18 Nilsson: 12:15 Cogliano: 11:43
Take a look at the seperation from our #3 to our #9 (or lack thereof).
Should a guy like Moreau be getting :21 less icetime than the 3rd place guy on our team?
Take a look at the division leading Flames as an example. Iginla gets 2 minutes more ES ice time than the next guy and 4 minutes more than 4th and 5th. Guys like Glencross, Boyd & Moss (who all kill penalites as well) get 5 and 6 minutes less than ES icetime leader and our way more effective at producing than Moreau is.
It all leads us back to the inability of our coach to try and be proactive and dictate a game plan. Maybe the offensive guys are struggling because they don't get enough icetime to try and create??
I am not saying that I have the exact answer, but whatever the coach has been doing (especially in terms of the responsibility he places on role players) does not seem to be working???
Who is starting in net tonite??
Considering Roli lost all 3 games he played against Dallas last year and Garon is the only Oiler goalie to beat Dallas since 2006.....
I predict Roli!!!!!
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When you have an average player as your captain you're destined to have an average team….
So all of this mediocrity is because they put the C on the wrong guy?!? OMG (slaps head) how do they not see it.
They gave the C to the player with the best work ethic and the most heart; someone the players and coaching staff respected and would listen to; someone who has been around long enough to earn it; someone who publicly stated how great it was to be in Edmonton and be an Oiler at a time when it was needed.
They gave it to the best role model and spokesperson on the team at the time. There was no superstar to hang the "C" on, so they made the best choice at the time. In time maybe a new Weight or Messier will emerge on the team, but until then (and Souray is the only guy coming close) the "C" should stay where it is.
Crazy, if we could kill penalties, all of a sudden we'd be in contention.....I would have never thought that a macT team could kill.
I don't think Moreau being captain is the problem. He brings it. Look what is happening in Pittsburg with Crosby wearing the C!!!!! Nuttin!!!! That guy is way overrated, if he wasn't Canadian.....
@ Cam:
I guess you didn't read the post above regarding Horcoff or Stoll?
Maybe the players don't respect him as much as you think they do? Do you think any of the players would publicly say anything negative about their captain?
Maybe they don't even have anything negative to say - maybe they just can see that he can not actually lead them anywhere (except the penalty box...sorry that was a cheap shot)?
Honestly, what can Ethan Moreau teach Gagner or Hemsky about the actual game of hockey? He can model grit and hard work, but at the end of the day those guys have more skill and hockey sense in their pinky fingers than Moreau has altogether. It doesn't make Moreau bad hockey player - just a poor choice as captian.
I am not suggesting that the players are so fragile that they can not figure things out for themselves, but one of the main responsibilities of a captain is to right the ship when it is off course. You can have the best deckhands on board - but if the captain steers you into an iceberg.....
On the other hand - soemtimes a great captain can get a bunch of misfits to sail across an entire ocean.
I have a feeling we are somewhere in the middle - and I am guessing that we will end up treading water if things stay as they are....
As far as Moreau being a great spokesperson??? MacT is one of the most wellspoken guys in hockey - does that make him a good coach?
rindog wrote:
@ R-DAWG: Considering Roli lost all 3 games he played against Dallas last year and Garon is the only Oiler goalie to beat Dallas since 2006….. I predict Roli!!!!!
Bingo. Roloson gets the start.
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The Scranton/Wilkes Barre Yankees will play 37 International League games at Frontier Field next season and seven in Batavia while their home field is renovated, officials announced Friday.
Frontier Field is home to the Rochester Red Wings of the International League. The Red Wings and the Batavia Muckdogs of the Class A New York-Penn League are managed and operated by Rochester Community Baseball Inc.
"We are delighted to be able to bring these additional Triple-A baseball games to the fans of the Rochester and Batavia areas," said Naomi Silver, Red Wings president, CEO and chief operating officer, in a statement.
Scranton/Wilkes Barre, the Class AAA affiliate of the New York Yankees, will play all 72 home games at alternate locations while its ballpark in Scranton undergoes $40 million in upgrades, officials said.
The team also will play six home games in Buffalo, 10 in Syracuse, eight in Allentown, Pa., and four in Pawtucket, R.I.
"We will establish our base of operations in Rochester with more than half our home games played right here in Rochester," New York Yankees general manager Brian Cashman said.
"This will be a very interesting experience for our players, and we're looking forward to having our highest-level prospects playing in front of the legions of Yankees fans all across Upstate New York and into Allentown and Pawtucket."
Scranton/Wilkes Barre will resume playing home games in Scranton in 2013.
"From an economic development standpoint, it will also be a home run for our community because it will create more jobs, fill more hotel rooms and spur on more business in our community thanks to the Yankees and visiting teams being here for those 37 additional dates," Red Wings general manager Daniel Mason said in the statement.
"This should also be an economic boom for Batavia as well as a great opportunity for Muckdogs fans to see Triple-A baseball in their own backyard for the first time ever."
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The Scranton/Wilkes Barre Yankees will play 37 International League games at Frontier Field next season and seven in Batavia while their home field is renovated, officials announced Friday.
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*It's a micro drop of water balanced in the middle of a single dandelion seed head. Click the above name and you will discover how it was done! It is amazing, isn't it!
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"One of the most calming and powerful actions you can do to intervene in a stormy world is to stand up and show your soul. Struggling souls catch light from other souls who are fully lit and willing to show it." - by Clarissa Pinkola Estes
Very beautiful, Ella!
I enjoyed your poem, Ella. I do think that nature definitely helps us see things with new eyes...if we really look at what is around us in our world. Butterfly wings, robin's egg: each so intricate to observe and so inspirational.
Very lovely Ella, and so uplifting! Beautiful :-)
"Among the quilted dreams I soar." I'm going to be thinking about that line during my run today.
Thank you!
Oh Ella, the talent that soars from you.
This is SO beautiful, kiddo! especially "among the quilted dreams, I soar". Wow. My week attacked me and I didnt have a chance to write to this prompt.........it is a good one and my response would have been nature, as well.
You took to my happy place with this most beautiful write Ella!
A green heart grows in a field of mundane
filled with intoxicating dragonflies
they lift like champagne bubbles
Oh, Ella!!! This entire poem dances of nature...sings it from the highest most green loving place!! I love it!!
Lovely bliss Ella.
So many lovely lines but this stood out:
'your pale freckles are the map of the constellations
in the pale moon's light'
I'd have to say love and nature is mine too.
I haven't had chance to write to this prompt yet but, am about to today.
Sounds blissful to me, too... a wonderful way to start my day. Thanks so much, Ella!
That photo is amazing! And your poem makes me want to paint..so many beautiful color words and images!
Thank you everyone for your comments!
I'll be back to comment...back to Lowe's. Home improvement projects are taking over my day~ I know, it happens! Happy Sunday!


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"The inspiration for this album is a full circle story of Jennifer's life since her On the Six album," Elsa said. "The looks were very relaxed and real, but we tossed in a few braids to give it some Bronx flavor."
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Editor's Note: This is the second in a three-part series on some of the events which shaped the history of Emery County.
By PATSY STODDARDStaff, Emery County Progress
The irrigation canals have long been an integral part of the Emery County landscape. To look at an irrigation canal you might not think of how much work it took to build that canal in the time before backhoes and other motorized equipment.
When all you had to work with was a shovel it amounted to a tremendous amount of digging. When settlers began moving into Emery County in the late 1870s all of the settlements that sprang up were near creeks where the settlers could access water supplies. In Edward Geary's book, A History of Emery County, he said, "Despite the fact that Muddy Creek was the first sizeable stream encountered by travelers who reached Castle Valley by way of Wasatch Pass, potential settlers seem to have passed over the region during the 1870s because both the creek and the available river bottom farm land were somewhat smaller than those farther north."
Casper Christensen had been in the area for several years grazing livestock. He was the first settler to take the construction of an irrigation ditch from the planning stages to actual implementation. He began the construction on May 15, 1881. According to Geary, Christensen's land was on the right bank of Muddy Creek about three miles northeast of the present townsite of Emery. Also in 1881 Joseph and Marinus Lund and Charles Johnson selected land upstream from Christensen, but Johnson and Joseph Lund soon became discouraged and returned to Spring City. Christensen then moved his family into the cabin built by Joseph Lund. At the end of the season he had harvested 70 bushels of wheat. That same year, Miles and Daniel Miller located several miles downstream in what came to be know as Miller Canyon.
Geary said, "As the settlement on Muddy Creek grew other familes were locating in the valley of Quitchupah Creek, six miles to the southwest. Shortly after the turn of the century, a cloudburst on the creek's headwaters sent a massive flood through the valley, destroying the diversion dams and canals and turning the creek bed into a deep wash. Even though an extension of the Emery Canal restored irrigation water to part of the land, most settlers either moved into Emery or left the region.
"Even before the disastrous washout, Quitchupah Creek was too small to irrigate more than a few farms and the Muddy Creek Valley had limited land suitable for cultivation. It was natural, therefore, that the settlers' attention should be drawn to the bench dividing the two valleys. Here was sufficient land for a sizeable community. In order to bring water to the site, it would be necessary to construct a highline canal for four miles along the base of the mountains. Preliminary work on the canal began in 1885, and in 1886 a stock company was incorporated with Heber C. Pettey as president, Casper Christensen, vice-president, Peter V. Bunderson, secretary and treasurer, and William G. Petty, George Collier, and George Whitlock as directors. There were 58 men who subscribed for stock in the new company. The greatest barrier in the path of the canal was a large shale hill.
"To go around the hill would lengthen the canal by more than two miles and bring it onto the bench at a lower level, thus reducing the amount of land available for irrigation. After some discussion, the company decided to dig a tunnel through the hill, a project that also required building a dam across a ravine in order to deliver water to the tunnel. The tunnel would be 1200 feet long and all of it through solid rock. This did not deter the men for they were men of courage, ambition and hope.
"The building of the Emery tunnel required both ingenuity and tenacity. Existing in a subsistence economy, with no capital to speak of and no trained engineers, nothing but the most rudimentary tools, the settlers labored for two years to complete the tunnel, doing most of the work during the winters. They calculated the proper fall with a homemade water level and sighted over lighted candles to keep the tunnel correctly aligned. To expedite the work, they sank, a shaft in the center of the hill so they could work from four ends at the same time. When the various segments met, they were almost perfectly aligned," said Geary.
According to the Emery County Historical Society book on the history of Emery County from 1880-1980, "The dirt was carried out of the tunnel by buckets and horses or mule power. The tools of the men were only picks and shovels, blasting powder and two wheeled carts to carry out the dirt. The continuous caving of the roof and sides made the work very hazardous. Many stories are told of miraculous escapes by men who were inspired to move just before a cave-in. These were a religious people who believed in and received help from the Lord."
In the Castle Valley Daughters of the Utah Pioneers book there is a passage which reads: "On one occasion Isaac Allred and Rasmus Albrechtsen were hired to remove a great pile of rock that had fallen down. After working most of the day until they were tired and hungry they left the tunnel to eat lunch and rest a few minutes. When they returned, a slab of rock weighing approximately two tons had fallen where they had been working."
"Water was turned into the tunnel in 1888, but a new set of problems developed almost immediately. The Blue Gate shale through which the tunnel had been dug is hard and tightly compacted in its original state, but once exposed to air and water it softens and sloughs away. Recurring rockfalls blocked the tunnel. In an effort to solve this problem, the entire length of the tunnel was timbered on the sides and top, a project requiring several months to complete. But rocks continued to fall from the roof, breaking the timbers. The timbered sides made clearing the channel more difficult as there was no room to push the rocks to the side and it was therefore necessary to carry them all the way to the end of the tunnel. One large rockfall in the midsection caused the upper half of the tunnel to fill with muddy sediment three feet deep, which required six weeks to remove. After much discussion, the company stockholders decided to take out the timber, as it seemed to be doing more harm than good. They then converted the lower half of the tunnel to an open cut, an undertaking that required almost an additional year," said Geary.
Kathleen Truman of the Emery County Historical Preservation Commission said, "The settlers held a community party to celebrate the completion of the project. For the celebration they had a feast of roasted rabbit, which goes to show the conditions of the people at the time that all they had to celebrate with was the rabbit dinner. During this celebration a loud roar signalled that the dam had collapsed across the ravine leaving the tunnel high and dry. True to the form of these settlers they did not give up and proceeded to construct a new canal segment above the ravine."
In his book Geary said, "The shortened tunnel was easier to keep clear. Over a few years time, the shale which kept collapsing formed a natural arch eight to 10 feet high and rockfalls became less frequent. In this form the tunnel continued to serve for some 75 years before being replaced by an open cut excavated by heavy equipment."
The Daughters of the Utah Pioneers constructed a monument to keep the story of the canal alive. This monument gives a brief history of the tunnel and commemorates this valiant achievement.
Truman said, "Eighty percent of the Muddy Creek goes to Emery while 20 percent is diverted to Moore. You could always tell where the ditches ran because they were lined with cottonwood trees. When modern heavy equipment became available the earth was simply dug away to make an open cut alongside the tunnel in the blue slate mancos shale ridge. The open cut was successfully made in the spring of 1956. The water would then run through an open canal. The blood, sweat and tears of many years of hard work was erased by the digging of a backhoe into the blue shale. These memories and pieces of history are important to be preserved. Any pictures detailing the canal building and its subsequent modernization should be preserved for future generations. Those involved in shaping the future need to be aware of the hard work and endeavors of those who have come before."
According to present day Mayor of Emery, Mike Williams, Emery Town still relies on the use of canals to get their drinking water. The water originally came down into a settling pond next to the cemetery and then it was used by the people. A water treatment system has since been installed.
Mayor Williams is seeking funding to modernize the water system into the town of Emery. A pipeline will be installed along the ditches to bring the water into the town. The use of a pipeline has many advantages to the old canal system. The issue of salinity control is always a concern in this country of alkali. The pipeline reduces the salinity in the water. Large amounts of water are saved with pipelines because the water doesn't seep out along the ditch banks. Mayor Williams well knows the advantages of the pipeline, his major obstacle is the securing of funds for this project. As Emery moves into the future the issue of a safe and secure water source continues to be a concern.
Editor's Note: Next week in the final part in the Looking Back series, the history of saw mills in Emery County will be explored.


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The Shoreline Community College Men's and Women's Tennis Teams competed at the NWAACC Spring Jamboree recently at Skagit Valley College in Mt. Veron, WA.
Besides SCC, Skagit Valley College, the Community Colleges of Spokane and Bellevue College (women's only) competed at the event.
SCC was led by Alex Casper on the men's side, who rearched the semi-finals of both the singles and doubles draw, while Mandy Lam reached the semi-finals of the women's tournament.
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This week's prompt is - The year you were born
What happened
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I am a child of the early 1970's.
I thought a good starting point for this exercise would be to refer to the baby book my mother created for me when I was born. (Thanks Mom!) After 27 hours of labor, I was born via Cesarean section a month early at La Guardia Hospital in Queens, NY.
These are some of the things she jotted down in the book about the year I was born.
Public officials: Mayor Lindsey, President Nixon
Clothing styles: layered look for women, Men --wide leg pants, high heeled shoes.
Signs of the times: Apollo 17 to the moon, Viet Nam War concluding. Long hair worn by men and women.
Here are a couple of the movies that came out that year that I was born. I've only seen them in bits and pieces of over the years but after looking at the trailers today, I am going to make a point to sit down and watch them from start to finish. They are both classics and it would do me some good to see them with grown up eyes now.
Lady Sings The Blues
Songs playing on the radio were Bill Wither's "Lean on Me", Don McLean's "American Pie", Roberta Flack's "The First Time I Saw Your Face" and Al Green's "Let's Stay Together.
One of my favorite children's books that I remember reading when I was child was published the year I was born.
Frog and Toad Together
by Arnold Lobel
I also loved this one.
Freaky Friday
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|James at 1:52am, 2011, by Dylan Todd
|Fields, by Caitlyn Braswell
|Pier, by Rob Wells
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The majority of Massachusetts teachers are capable in their jobs, according to the first results of the state's new educator evaluation system. The results – released today – show 85 percent of state elementary and secondary teachers are "proficient," and another 7 percent "exemplary." The rest were found unsatisfactory or in need of improvement. Springfield superintendent Dan Warwick says school districts will work with teachers who receive low marks.
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Starting next year, student achievement results will be part of teacher evaluations. Tim Collins is the President of the Springfield teachers' union. He says schools haven't been given sufficient time and resources to implement the new evaluation system.
In Boston, the teachers' union says the state's new evaluation system is racially biased.
Boston union officials say black teachers in Boston are 5 times more likely than white teachers to get an unsatisfactory evaluation – which could eventually lead to termination, and Hispanic teachers are more than twice as likely to get a poor rating.
Richard Stutman, the president of the union, says school officials and policy makers should be very concerned.
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Skip to comments.Scandal probe ensnares commander of U.S., NATO troops in Afghanistan
Posted on 11/13/2012 4:10:47 AM PST by billorites
The FBI probe into the sex scandal that prompted CIA Director David Petraeus to resign has expanded to ensnare Gen. John R. Allen, the commander of U.S. and NATO troops in Afghanistan, the Pentagon announced early Tuesday.
According to a senior U.S. defense official, the FBI has uncovered between 20,000 and 30,000 documents most of them e-mails of potentially inappropriate communications between Allen and Jill Kelley, a 37-year-old Tampa woman whose close relationship with Petraeus ultimately led to his downfall.
Allen, a Marine, succeeded Petraeus as the top allied commander in Afghanistan in July 2011. He also served as Petraeuss deputy when both generals led the militarys Tampa-based Central Command from 2008 until 2010.
The FBI first notified the Pentagon of its investigation into Allens communications with Kelley on Sunday evening, according to the senior defense official, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss details of the pending case.
In response, Pentagon chief Leon E. Panetta referred the investigation on Monday to the Defense Departments Inspector General for further review, according to a statement released by Panetta early Tuesday as he was traveling to Australia.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
"Obama is using the FBI as an arm of his personal marxist political machine."
Yes; Obama and Holder are making the FBI do illegal things. You'd think that with thousands of people taking the orders, there'd be a few patriots who would try to fix the problem and get the word out. Where are the Oathkeepers? I gues that group was "big hat; no cattle".
"zer0 will be busy with this for quite some time"
Zer0 will go play golf and leave the dirty work to the Jarrett-Axelrod "Chicago Cleanup Crew". Rahm may send in a few players to give the first string a rest from time to time. Ayers & Soros are in the booth, sending in plays.
The MSM will continue to give us insightful articles about Michelle's wardrobe.
Bill Clinton will bite his lip, shake his head, look sad and bemoan the fact that these generals in whom we placed so much confidence & trust would throw it all away for a few moments of tawdry sex.
Yes, AnAmericanAbroad, I do know about Maronite and Coptic Christians.... I have traveled in the Middle East. And notice that I didn't say that the Khawam family was Muslem. I just said they were from Lebanon. They perhaps have family still in Lebanon who might be threatened. I know my Coptic Christian friends in Egypt are under great threats right now. Basically, I was pointing out that this may be another factor in such suspicious circumstances.
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Valarie Jarrett is keeping her promise that those who weren't all in are now all out.
"Who e mails 20,000 documents?"
The same anti-American machine who creates 150 ballots in a precinct where only 100 have voted. It's magic, donchaknow?
Look for an influx of women and gay desk jockies adorned with 4 stars.
If you thought Obama wanted a competent Military, you'd be wrong.
It's difficult to give up those nicer things in life one gets accustomed to.
He was getting too close to some very important people, and he found out too late he couldn't trust the FBI.
It amazes me how the FBI missed classified documents in the ruins of benghazi, but they can digging up all this dirt on decorated hereos. What do we believe?
Clean up the mess and find congress people to bring a broom to every branch of the government!!
20-30 thousand pages could have been spread by a virus?
We are assuming one to two pages per email, while maybe it was fewer emails but more pages per email..... as in document dump....
Maybe secrets were being sent and threats were made to expose them "or else"?
If ever.
I'm sure Boehner'll get right on that.
A mini-"night of the long knives"?
This is turning into another tailhook.
Looks like Broadwell's dad was right - this IS bigger than her and Petraeus.
"The Night of the Long Knives", Marxist-style.
The twin sister:
"Since her filing, Cohen has delved into Khawams past: Hes uncovered court documents from a bankruptcy. He also unearthed a searing, 19-page child custody order from a Washington, D.C., superior court judge calling her out in 2011 for a lengthy history of abusing the litigation process and a willingness to say anything, even under oath, to advance her own personal interests."
Jill and her husband have major financial issues.
Twin sister files for sexual harassment.
Jill claims she was harassed by the FBI with a shirtless photo.
This family is a wild card in the equation.
I just can't figure out who is going to benefit from all of this.
Our side or Obama's side.
Special Prosecutor: "General Petraeus has testified that the administration knew of the Benghazi attack while it was underway and refused to send assistance, knowingly allowing those men to die."
Administration: "Petraeus? This administration refuses to respond to allegations from a disgraced, lying, adulterer".
MSM: "Who was that disgraced, lying, adulterer Petraeus banging and when did he start banging her? That's the important story here".
Right out of the Clinton playbook.
how about this "tom clancy" possibility - The are the chioldren of lebanese immigrants...a mole. LOL
yea I'm liking the tom clancy - lebanese spy angle. As to the number I don't give a rat's bottom...those kids (I was one) who go out everyday, do their job and expect the officers to be making it better. What about all the kids that lost limbs while 3 generals are playing sex games... just not right.
Hey. Please add me to your list. Thanks.
Gee, thanks for posting that pic!
However, since I don't know for sure who those people are (Karl Rove and either Broadwell or that Jill-whatever, maybe? ), nor when and where the pic was taken, I am unable to infer whatever it is you apparently think is common knowledge, lol. :-)
Broadwell June
No one is talking about the FBI search at Broadwell's home last night. The Wapo has nothing about it on the main web page. Neither does the NYTs.
MSM has been given the directive, do not focus on Broadwell's Oct. 26 speech.
They have the crazy eyes look because of too much Botox.
CA is where 0 first went to school.
KA isn't a state; KS is.
But KS is where 0's mom was from.
Companies in KS.... Hmmmm.
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I stopped watching the news after tues ( couldn't take it) so am getting caught up with this. None of it makes sense....and it all looks like a take down to me. When the hell is there going to be push back against Obama?clearly what happened in Benghazi is some serious $hit if they are taking out high ranking military to keep them quiet. Can't one high ranking military guy go kick his ass?
What world are we living in? Fiscal cliff. Integrity cliff. Talk about a train wreck.
Everyone is chasing e-mails from women,and not what happened in Benghazi....this is all par of a cover-up of Benghazi..
they learned in fast and furious..the longer you can detract you enemies to some other subject..the longer it will be off the front page..and interest will wan....when is the last time we heard of anything on fast and furious..is it any closer to being solved????
Please add me to your Benghazi List. Thnx!
The Clinton people are trying their hardest to make this a massive sex scandal to keep it from being about Benghazi.
They know that sex is a way to cover up a lot of other junk. (Ex: Remember how Clinton's thing became all about sex rather than obstruction of justice and perjury?).
Don't think the tactic is going to work this time.
but in 20,000?
I guess also that we will find out the nature of the emails was work-related.
They're digging for a crime. Petraeus' affair was after he left his military post (no crime) so now they're trying to pin an affair on another high-level military man still in the service so they can attach a criminal probe to the the whole thing.
It stinks.
Thanks for posting. You remarks are the only ones that make sense to me. This is one scary Administration. But we already knew that...
Worst case?
Thanks - that clears it up.
Jill Kelley seems to be a celebrity stalker.
yep ... or at very least see the Red Flag. Anything else?
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