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Skip to comments.Are Liberals Dumb? (Saturbray)
Posted on 05/04/2013 7:09:48 AM PDT by bray
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This week was one of the most enlightening weeks in a long time. It all began with the Collins declaration of his homosexuality and the ensuing virtual parade like he just conquered Iwo Jima as the poor put upon victim went against those intolerant Conservatives. Every media outlet was on full propaganda mode promoting another one of their favorite victim groups against the country they hate so openly. Let us know when one of these self promoters declares their homosexuality in an Islam country and then they can be labeled courageous. The only one who was attacked was the commentator who said homosexuality is a sin that was courageous.
What was enlightening was how dumb and angry liberals are when I became involved in an accidental website food fight. For the past twenty years I have been contributing to the main Oregon Duck sports website and have always been one of the main contributors to that site as a sports junkie. I always enjoyed writing about my beloved Ducks and would usually make up nicknames and have fun with the sports talk. I have always left off the politics other than a non PC nickname but would go there to get away from politics and use it as a diversion. Liberals do not have the ability to leave the politics alone and as many can guess the University of Oregon has a large number of them although the sports fan base is far less liberal than the University in general.
The basketball player of course lit the fuse for these libs as one of them had to shove it in everyones face as he made it look like he was some sort of huge hero. Most of us ignored it and figured it would fade away until he and the liberals began crowing and antagonizing as they became very obnoxious with their comparisons to Jackie Robinson and then attacking the Bible. After they attacked one of my longtime friends and called the Bible a book of fairytales it was time to join in the fray. It had been years since I had been in a virtual food fight but, the format returned it is just I had forgotten how angry and closed minded they were, but the thing which really struck me was how dumb they were. While I was quoting studies and statistics on the exaggeration of heterosexual AIDS transmission and risk factors of the homosexual lifestyle, they were doing nothing but calling names and no comebacks. It was a truly amazing display of ignorance.
Is it that liberalism is so mentally easy or do dumb people naturally move towards socialism? The argument was why does the gummit promote a lifestyle which is so dangerous, unhealthy and shortens your life rather than heterosexuality? The next argument we went into was the exaggeration of the heterosexual AIDS epidemic which never occurred. When I pointed out a homosexual male has a ten thousand times greater chance of contracting AIDS than a hetero they called me a bigot. They attempted to back that up with CDC data however they left off an important caveat from the data which changed the findings completely and I was able to find a deeper study of the CDC data which proved there were no actual findings of a transmission of AIDS from female to male which was the point.
After they were proved wrong it became a name calling contest which was what I found to be the most interesting part. These people are not very smart intellectually. Just like every other belief in communism, they become the arbitrators of what is and isnt truth. Just like they have decided whether global warming is true, they also decide who is and is not intelligent. When you have universities and schools which are filled with like minded liberals who are the deciders of intelligence, who do you think they are going to decide what is and is not the definition of intelligence. Outside of the hard sciences of math and physics there are very subjective standards of what defines intelligence as well as who goes on to further their educational career. This is why liberals believe they are more intelligent than conservatives since they are the ones who have set up the standards which require everyone directly or indirectly to think exactly as they do.
When you truly look at liberalism there is very little actual intelligence, rather we have a large circle of wagons of people all covering for each other. Looking at the mediots you see people who are not that bright reading the news or writing some silly columns which are either trying to cover for their politicians or laughing at Conservatives, nothing else. In our broadcast news we have people who may be attractive physically, but they move up the ranks by using the formula of promoting liberalism to sound intelligent without any real skills of debate or influential speaking. Most try to sound intelligent but if you really break down what they are saying are not that bright.
A perfect example would be Chris Mathews. He may talk fast and is bombastic, but when you break down what he says there is no real intelligence there. He is a bully and a name caller who passes himself off as an intellectual and by the liberal establishments definition he is. If you make fun of or laugh at other people and call them names it makes you appear to be more intelligent than them. This is the primary formula for the establishmedia.
When you look at the liberal political landscape you find even less intelligence. Can anybody say Pelosi or Reid is intelligent? Once again we have people who follow the formula of calling names and using corruption to make it into the highest levels of gummit and mess things up. They both basically sound like morons but they dont have to worry since they are part of the liberal establishment and the Three Pillars (academia, media and the DNC) will promote their agenda without questions.
This is exactly how we got Obama and why this country is heading down the toilet. He is a product of this false intelligence quotient which overstates a persons intellect if they agree with the communist agenda. They get bonus points for hating America and point out all of its faults and none of its positives. He is not an intelligent man but a result of this system and affirmative action to take advantage of White Guilt. We have a very average or less than average intellect running this country who is surrounded by the same overinflated intellect around him. None of them know how capitalism works or even care, they have been told they is a superior form which is Marxism and that is how they are attempting to solve our problems and we are now suffering the consequences.
If they were as intelligent as they have been told their entire lives, how come they have not solved the economic problems in five years? After decades of them telling us they had all the answers why dont they have this answer? The reason is, they do not have any of the answers and have fooled America into believing they are more intelligent than they are. They have built a system which is a giant circle of wagons shooting anyone who disagrees with their world view while labeling themselves the intellectual powerhouses. Just like most of todays science, they are an agenda driven fraud.
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As long as this administration is in power they feel that they can say and do anything they want. To object is racist, homophobic and un Marxist. They have so severely overplayed their hand that when the payback time comes all the guillotines in the world will not be able to keep up.
Yes. They're too dumb to realize how dumb they really are. They're so dumb, they think they're brilliant.
Well played!
The "liberal toxoplasmosis" theory.
Toxoplasmosis is a parasitic disease caused by the protozoan Toxoplasma gondii. A unique organism, it is a protozoa whose typical life cycle requires both rodents, and cats that eat rodents, but is also believed to infect some 11 million Americans, who got the protozoa either from house pets or mostly from undercooked meat. It can also last for a long time in the body of either animal, and be spread congenitally.
It is unique in that some of the protozoa inhabit the pleasure center of the rodents brain and when it detects chemicals associated with fear, it secretes an enzyme that causes the production of the powerful neurochemicals dopamine and GABA. This causes feelings of pleasure and also dims the intellect.
It does this out of self-interest, because in doing so, it systematically trains and *changes* the behavior of the rodent to engage in self-destructive behavior.
In particular, rodents have a natural, instinctual fear of cat urine, and will normally leave an area when they smell it. But the protozoa retrains their brain to make them attracted to it. Thus they enter the territory of a cat and are eaten, which is essential to the protozoa, as it reproduces in the intestines of cats and is spread in their feces, which is again eaten by rodents.
However, this reproductive cycle is corrupted when the protozoa is consumed by humans. Relatively speaking, the human brain is not tremendously different in basic design from that of rodents, yet we are generally not afraid of cats. We have many fears, however.
Speculatively, since humans have a pleasure center in their brain, and some protozoa will migrate there, and once there they will secrete their unique enzyme, what happens?
It is far too much to expect the finesse of the retraining to specifically involve attraction to cats. It just takes primitive, instinctual fears and changes them to attraction instead of fear.
And this is where "irrational leftism" may come from.
Pick virtually any self-destructive behavior, from embracing those who want to harm you, be they foreign enemies or domestic criminals, to personal behavior that runs a great risk of bodily harm, and there will be intense liberal interest in the subject of how to promote this behavior.
A uniquely human element, however, is that they are not content to just destroy themselves. They seek the destruction of everything and everyone.
Thus their true irrationality in wanting to destroy all that is good and wholesome.
The manifestations of this disease have likely altered the course of our nation, again speculatively, with a very determined craving on the part of liberals to tear down and ruin. Be it liberty and freedom, our economy, our position in the world, policy after policy seems to point to the same self destructive goal. Despising good and embracing evil.
Why in the world are liberals so adamant against our defending ourselves from enemy nuclear ballistic missiles? Their only official justification being irrational, that *being able* to defend ourselves is "provocative" and will encourage others to build nuclear ballistic missiles that we would be defended against by our defenses.
Yet their same twisted logic applies to gun control as well. They want honest citizens disarmed, so there will be no opposition to violent and murderous armed criminals who prey on honest citizens.
This is ridiculous. A sane person would not think such thoughts, or even most insane people. Unless their brains had been "retrained" to do so.
To a large extent, liberals have become trapped in the erroneous belief that intelligence is defined as the ability to deceive. Thus people like Reid, Pelosi, Obama and his handlers think they are geniuses.
Another false perception of the nature of intelligence is that it can be demonstrated by the use of ridicule and sarcasm. This I think is the product of public school social and moral dynamics, starting with rejection of the one true God.
All of postmodernism, existentialism and humanism is self-refuting from the beginning. The offspring of these ideologies is the liberalism of today.
The way to shed foolishness is available to everyone.
The question for any sincere liberal is this: If intelligence is not the ability to see and to elevate truth, then what is it?
Start by understanding this, Mr. Axelrod: When you say there's no such thing as truth, 1) your statement refutes itself and 2) you set yourself on a path the only end of which is ultimate self deception.
You may just have something there. Liberal policies are self destructive, yet they continue to push them for some reason. Every policy the liberals have ever come up with has turned into a disaster, but they never seem to learn from it. (They're the definition of insanity.)
Interesting though. They have formed a religion which gives them a high from following these practices. Being tolerant is one of their greatest highs as well as what they see as an unforgivable sin to be intolerant.
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It always come down to their version of Utopia by attempting to change human nature. The radical anarchists aside who have no clue what they want, most liberals/socialists and even communists are peaceniks who believe in their hearts (not in mind) that they can stop all the evils of mankind simply by preaching PEACE. It will never work. It is impossible within the normality of human characteristics. Sociology 101.
They simply don't understand or accept the inherent limitations of the human condition. I saw in the 1960's communes that all failed time and again, simply because people wanted more and expected more, why the lazy hippies didn't want to produce and the commune fell apart from lack of their efforts. It's human nature to want reward for effort - the lazies didn't get it.
Wish we all were truism humanists and such idiology make all People worth being an equal member of their societies...blah, blah, blah. Too bad that there are different intellect levels; different societal accomplishment; different racial, ethnicity, and cultural divides.
It will continue until Arthur C. Clarke's vision of "Childhood's End" comes to passe. In the meantime, we are not equal and so we fight amongst ourselves. That is the nature of humanity. However, if I get a vote, mine is on the winning side of Western civilization, no matter who it puts down.
I don't think liberals are dumb. Some know the consequences of their beliefs but expound them for power, figuring, as a member of the elite, they can personally avoid the consequences. The vast majority, however, aren't particularly dumb or smart, they are ruled by their emotions. They do not think, they feel. It's the cult phenomenon; if they are told they can all feel better by following a charismatic leader they do it mindlessly.
There are two types of liberals:
1) Morons.
2) Filth.
This is a good article to pass on to our liberal acquaintances because its obvious (to us) points are presented in a simple to understand way
"... although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. Professing to be wise, they became fools,... therefore God also gave them up to... the lusts of their hearts, (they) exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator,... For this reason God gave them up to vile passions... And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting... who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them." - Romans 1:21,ff
Their evil thoughts and motives have birthed a religion unto themselves and now they (and our country over which they have so much sway) are under the Wrath of God.
Is it any wonder things are turning out so badly in this once fair and pleasant land, whose people and leaders once enthusiastically revered and acknowledged God, even imperfectly?
Yet their much-vaunted tolerance is very intolerant of ideas other than their own. In many ways, they have long been "the people of hate", who have no limits to how much they can hate.
Some, like Dr. Eric R. Pianka, even call for the extermination of mankind, or the vast majority (90%) thereof. (His proposal was of a pandemic plague of ebola to do it.) This is not unique among the left, as similar ideas are a reoccurring theme. People such as Paul R. Ehrlich, of "The Population Bomb" theory, to Dave Foreman of Earth First!, are just the latest in a long run of such people.
I truly wish I had a recording or transcript from many years ago, when Jesse Jackson was seeking the Democrat nomination for president. He went on a talk show, where he was peppered with questions, obviously flustering him. Then one of the hosts asked him, "What about all those people who would be opposed, some violently, to your presidency?"
Taken off guard, he blurted out that "We would have to build some kind of camps to put them in", or words very close to that. It goes to a deeply held mindset for such ideas to even exist in a person.
Likewise, before Obama even had the nomination, there was a typical nonsense thread on another forum, as to "What if he is the antichrist?" At one point a liberal blurted out that he actually *wished* Obama was the antichrist.
"Because then he would be powerful, and give us what we want, and hurt the people we hate", was his reply.
This was even shocking to some of the more level headed atheists, who though they did not believe in God, were not so totally convinced that they would be willing to embrace "the ultimate evil", for the *benefits*.
At a moment when the answer stood right there before him Pilate asked of Jesus that essential question to which the world's flawed response has defined human troubles from the very beginning.
Whether the problem is approached from a "secular" context or not, the answer is the same. Just as the relative is subject to the absolute, that which is "secular" is a subset within the ultimate reality of God.
That was the other thing that struck me arguing with them was their complete intolerance of other thought. When I laid out absolute proof and another person from their side put out an analysis which basically said the same thing they began their name calling. They would not even consider the possibility the government had fudged the numbers to make it look like a heterosexual disease.
They are the most intolerant close minded people in the world due to their ignorance.
In Latin, the words of Pilate are Quid est veritas?
These words take on a special quality in Latin, because they are actually an anagram. If you re-arrange the letters you obtain the following sentence: Est vir qui adest, "It is the man who is here."
Just morally superior/sarc
Americas Constitution is outdated.
Karl Marx was a great philosopher.
FDRs New Deal saved America.
Senator Joe McCarthy was evil.
Martin Luther King was a Saint.
Capitalism is about greed and socialism is about charity.
Men and women are the same.
There is no such thing as race.
Man evolved from ocean scum.
Global Warming is a proven fact.
There are no government conspiracies.
Homosexuality is normal.
Guns and religion are evil.
To escape such rubbish, libtards must develop enough character to be able to learn to give up emotionalism, and to reject social metaphysics and groupthink mentality, and learn to develop their own ability to have independent rational judgment. Unfortunately, most libtards are unable or unwilling to do this.
Bravo !
The common liberal man/woman in the street may be ignorant but the liberal politician is one evil SOB whose every action is a premeditated endeavor.
Well I was going to suggest what you're photo is already stating!
A quote from Martin Luther King, Jr., "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity."
90% of the so-called left come from the left side of the Bell Curve. The other 10% are the elitists who lead them on with promises of freebies.
I disagree. Liberals aren't dumb, but they are bent and twisted with a mindset that is based more on emotion rather than logic. This is why they will always play for people's emotions. This is why they are also more conniving and deceitful—and you have to be pretty smart in a bent and twisted way to be conniving and deceitful. This is why policies they make eventually fail; because, while it may feel good at the time, the reasoning, wishful thinking, lack of human understanding, actual practice and reality eventually breaks down.
Not to digress too much, but a recent caller on Rush's radio program used the phrase "a Cold Civil War." I believe he's right. We are desperately in the middle of one.
I think you're right about many liberals defining intelligence as the the ability to deceive. The street smart grift or con is what is respected.
Obama is a genius to them on that level.
There are many doctors or PhD's or avidly follow liberalism just as they did Hitler and Stalin. Intelligence and wisdom converge and is a multifaceted thing.
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^That was Z himself as a kid
^That was Z himself as a kid
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Thought so. That made it even sadder :-(
...Well, at least I think it did, but since I didn't understand a word that was spoken, I have no idea what he was trying to accomplish, or if he did, or if he went out like a "baws".
I love that end fight with Luffy though. Oda flipped the script, and instead of having him win with an over-the-top move or something, it was just a regular "who can take more of a beating" boxing match. To be such a small character, Luffy packs a lot of power in a punch, even when he doesn't stretch first!
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Just finished watching the movie. An amazing and really touching ending.
Too bad he gave his life just when his blinding hatred for all pirates got lifted,
but at the same time, it shows how great of a person he really was.
Now we have a decent estimate as how strong luffy currently is.
Once again zoro had little trouble taking care of his opponent... No big surprise but his actual strenght still remains a questionmark.
Franky taking care of 5 new pacifistas was a nice surprise and pretty boss too.
I liked the movie a lot since it was so close to the manga and seemed like a real mangaka directed it. But I kinda didn't like how fast Z turned in the end, it was like one second they were punching their brains out and the next he was saving the strawhats lol. Plus I was expecting all the stone explosions to be as big and impressive as the one in the first point when he threw it at Borsolino. I liked the new DF powers, thought they were kinda cool and all the fanservice Zoro and Sanji got
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Jake grew up and attended Wayne High School. He enjoyed ranching and helped his parents for many years on the family farm. He mined uranium, worked at the Uranium Mill at White Canyon, and later hauled uranium ore for several trucking companies including Dekker, McFarland, and Hullinger. Jake also hauled coal for Savage Trucking.
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Originally posted by Xobdnas
I need to get this out of the way, blaahahaha, called it. Ok... So do they refund all the people that supported it with $15 a month up til that point?
I really think this is kind of a double-edged sword for EA/BW and fans of the game.
First, it's basically an admission that the game failed in its intended business model. EA/BW intended SWTOR to be a subscription money maker, and going F2P proves that, that didn't work out as they planned.
But second, I think it's actually a good thing for the game. I always said that SWTOR felt more like a CORPG ala GW, than it felt like an actual MMORPG with a lively world, player economy, etc. etc. So I thought B2P would have been a good thing for the game...I didn't want to be forced to pay a sub free for a game that I regarded as basically a CORPG.
Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob?
Useless. They are soo deep in the hole, the ftp model is going to have to be very restrictive in the hopes people will spend money.
Originally posted by Foomerang
I'm gonna predict a Star Wars Galaxies relaunch by December.
We can only dream.
7 months is that a record?
Jesus christ seriously? I even like SWTOR but this is death of the game.
Originally posted by ignore_me
Originally posted by Foomerang
Can we have SWG back now?
lol no doubt
Originally posted by bcbully
7 months is that a record?
APB lasted like a month.
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Originally posted by GamerUntouch
It's funny because the game's actually pay2win now. F2P players can't do operations, which are raids. Raids give the best gear. if you don't pay you can't get the best gear.
Just wait for their cash shop. It is EA after all. Remember Swtor is getting one, freemium style.
Not initial cash shop, wait for what will be in it 6+ months after freemium transition. (or earlier if they really want / need some of those 200 mln $ invested money back).
Originally posted by GamerUntouch
Originally posted by bcbully
7 months is that a record?
APB lasted like a month.
Eh, yeah, but that wasn't really an mmorpg. It was more like a mutliplayer FPS. Sort of a different vein.
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They must have lost hundreds of thousands be down to less than 250k subs now for them to do this so quickly. Server consolidations, free to play. The game didn't even make it a year, before it sank, ouch.
What happens when you log off your characters????.....
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I think they will find their income from this game will increase. Players like spending money in small increments and will end up paying more than they would with a sub.
Originally posted by Fendel84M
Not that I hate the game, it wasnt for me...buuut...anyone notice the game doesn't seem to have any hardcore defenders on this site anymore?
I know a couple and I've noticed slowly that they have begun to recede in their convictions about just how bad this game is. it's not new i've seen it before on this website, the people who are fanatics without being objective about the reality of the situation usually suddenly become more objective later on after being crazed about a title.
On this site tho I've noticed people have completely disappeared when it comes to this subject because despite popular belief, GW2 is not the most hyped game ever, it was SWTOR that definitely started the trend (and i hate the hyped word as it's usually used wrong) in this case, SWTOR devs directly did hype their game by making it seem like one would start their game and notice right away that what they would be doing while playing is completely new and that it was the best gaming experience.
Originally posted by Ozmodan
I think they will find their income from this game will increase. Players like spending money in small increments and will end up paying more than they would with a sub.
That depends on people playing it.
F2P is the future even in the west. Sorry for those of you who don't want to admit this, but it's true. Subscriptions are dying, people don't want an added bill these days when they have no guarantee of tangible content or material for their money each month. New games launching are going right off the bat with F2P or B2P approaches, or mixes of both. It's just what it is, I'm excited to see the more aggressive approach to content.
scnr *g*
Microtransactions are the devil. The fact that the game cost so much to produce means they are going to push the cash shop just as hard to make up for their failure. It isn't LoL where they run off of aesthetics and shortcuts, it will be like Perfect World where it's 10 times cheaper to just pay for WoW.
That and their universe is packed with lore that nobody aside from Star Wars fans cares about.
I played WoW up until WotLK, played RoM for 2 years and now Rift.
I am F2P player. I support games when I feel they deserve my money and I want the items enough.
I don't troll, and I don't take kindly to trolls.
I miss SWG ...
Originally posted by Ozmodan
I think they will find their income from this game will increase. Players like spending money in small increments and will end up paying more than they would with a sub.
But what is there that anyone would spend $ on? The character perks? Legacy gear? Pets? Different colored speeders or light sabers? None of those are even worth spending credits on. There isn't enough in the game that is desireable. It's just too simple of a game.
Originally posted by Tayah
Originally posted by Phaleg31
Now, can Daniel Erickson and the game director, forgot the name, PLEASE BE FIRED NOW? WOULD SOMEONE OVER THERE DO THE RIGHT THING AND GIVE THOSE TWO KNUCKLEHEADS THEIR WALKING PAPERS?
James Ohlen that buggeyed egotistical imbecile.
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So yea, totally called this (albeit a couple months over my estimation as I predicted it'd go F2P by the end of June) prior to SWTOR's release, and I was called a troll / hater?
SWTOR is what it is, a very bad singleplayer game with COOP elements. Sorry, it's not an MMO, and it most certainly isn't "Fun".
What a waste of the StarWars IP.
Also, internal discussion @ LA is that if SWTOR's license is canceled there will NEVER be another StarWars MMO. Ever....
They plan to shoot primarily for Console only games, or Social gaming on Mobile products. Such a pathetic company :I.
The Theory of Conservative Conservation of Ignorant Stupidity:
Having a different opinion must mean you're a troll.
SWTOR is not going free to play, there is no need to panic.
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EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. (AP) -- After overcoming two major knee surgeries in the past two years, Terrell Thomas might be facing his biggest challenge.
The Giants cornerback is probably going to go against Wes Welker when New York (0-1) meets the Denver Broncos (1-0) at MetLife Stadium Sunday.
Welker is one of the NFL's top slot receivers. He had a team-high nine catches for 67 yards and two touchdowns in the Broncos' 49-27 win over Baltimore in the kickoff to the season last week.
''It's an exciting challenge,'' Thomas said Thursday after practice. ''He's a Pro Bowl receiver, one of the best in the slot. He had a good game against the Ravens. I'm excited. It's a great challenge for me. He's good at what he does - very explosive out of his breaks.
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Thomas, who missed the past two seasons after tearing his anterior cruciate ligament for the second and third times of his career, defended the slot receiver in the Giants' 36-31 loss to Dallas Sunday.
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''I'm not worrying about it. My knee is fine,'' said Thomas, who was on the verge of becoming one of the league premier cornerbacks before being hurt in a 2011 preseason game. ''I proved that in this last game, proved that against (Dallas receiver) Miles Austin. I'm looking forward to the challenge, because I know (Welker) is one of the best.''
The 6-foot, 191-pound Thomas has about a three-inch size advantage over Welker and a couple of pounds. His hope is to be able to use his strength and long arms to slow down Welker coming off the line of scrimmage.
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''Wes doesn't have a whole lot of bad games,'' Fewell said. ''He has been a pretty good receiver and a pretty consistent receiver for the last eight years. You can try to take him out, but he finds a way to win.''
And no matter how well Thomas covers Welker, it may not be good enough the way Peyton Manning throws the ball. Denver's quarterback threw for 462 yards and seven touchdowns against the Ravens.
Thomas said Manning took the Ravens out of their game plan in the second half and caught them off balance in leading the Broncos to 35 points.
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''Peyton is Peyton, and with the addition of Welker, they have a strong passing attack,'' Fewell said. ''I think the running game is improved. They have a very explosive offense. They can catch a short pass and go 70, or they can throw it five yards and move it down the field.
''So it's a very potent offense.''
And Terrell Thomas will be facing of the main cogs.
NOTES: C David Baas practiced for the second straight day on a limited basis, and there is a chance he will make his season debut Sunday. ... CB Prince Amukamara (concussion) was meeting with doctors on Thursday. Coach Tom Coughlin said if he practices Friday, he might start Sunday. ... The coach said RB David Wilson had another good practice holding the ball. He refused to say whether he would start Sunday, adding Brandon Jacobs has looked good, too. ... Starting MLB Dan Connor missed his second straight practice with a stringer.
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What is R2-D2's job?
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R2-D2 fixes starships and is a fighter pilot's assistant.
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Anakin Skywalker
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Han Solo
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He was a double-agent.
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He was R2-D2's father.
He wasn't really a droid.
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What was battle droid 513 made of?
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Is droid army commander Gen. Grievous a droid?
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Gen. Grievous commanded a droid army, but he is Kaleesh with mechanical prostheses.
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What is the ID9 seeker droid's defining feature?
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How many legs did the Octuptarra droids have?
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What sound do mouse droids make when they are frightened?
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Mouse droids beep when going about business, but they squeal when they are confused.
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Which of these features do homing spider droids use to attack the enemy?
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Spider droids have a dish-shaped laser cannon between their legs.
razor fangs
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Which of these droids performs surgery on people?
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GNK droids
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Darth Maul used Sith probe droids to locate Queen Amidala.
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Droid gunships have what function in the Clone Wars?
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Droid gunships are powerful machines with missiles and droid deployment units.
strategic bombing
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Astromech droids are known for which of these traits?
Astromech droids are very vocal with their opinions.
Question 15 of 30
What do droids fear on the planet Tatooine?
solar flares
Droids on Tatooine fear being stripped down and repurposed by Jawas.
killer droids
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What shape can droidekas change into?
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Who said, "These aren't the droids you're looking for"?
Obi-Wan Kenobi
Obi-Wan Kenobi manipulates the minds of two imperial troopers, telling them, "These aren't the droids you're looking for."
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The homing spider droids fought on what side?
the Separatists
The homing spider droids fought for the Confederacy of Independent Systems and against the Republic during the Battle of Geonosis.
the Republic
the Empire
Question 19 of 30
How do imperial interrogation droids get prisoners to talk?
Imperial interrogation droids use hallucinogens and truth serums to coax the truth out of their victims.
Question 20 of 30
Where do Count Dooku's Separatists manufacture their droids?
underground factories on Geonosis
Count Dooku's Separatists manufacture their droids in the hives of Geonosis.
the mountains of Alderaan
on the Death Star
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Which droid from the upcoming "Star Wars: The Force Awakens" already has a toy version?
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True or false: Buzz droids are capable of destroying entire starfighters with their missiles.
Buzz droids have destructive tools that can disable, but not destroy, starships.
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B-1 battle droids have what shape?
short and boxy
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B-1 battle droids resemble their Genosian creators but lack intelligence.
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Why are battle droids effective in combat?
awesome firepower
sheer numbers
Battle droids win in combat by overwhelming opponents.
strength and speed
Question 25 of 30
WED Treadwell droids serve what function?
maintenance and repairs
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popcorn for droids
a grenade
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In this week's list, Jon Wood looks at the idea that a successful Warcraft movie could set off a rash of MMO-based films and gives his ideas on five that could be likely candidates.
The developers over at Blizzard have been creating and expanding the Warcraft universe and the world of Azeroth since 1994 when they launched their first title, an RTS by the name of Warcraft Orcs and Humans.Since then, and with the launch of their MMO, Blizzard's franchise has become a worldwide brand, its lore beginning to become as well known as some of the stories that make up classic fantasy canon. As with all things popular from other media, Hollywood has taken an interest and sometime in 2011, we're going to see a Warcraft movie, directed by Spiderman and Xena head man Sam Raimi set about one year prior to the beginning of the MMO.
Reading what little information exists about this movie gave me an idea for a more relaxed list this week. We've already looked at movies that would make good MMOS, so I figured I'd take the time to count down the five MMOs that I'd like to see made into movies and no, Warcraft won't be on the list. They're already making it.
Let me start at the outset by saying that I write this with the full realization that none of these films are ever likely to be made. I just thought it might be fun to make a list and to see the discussion that it generates. So maybe it would be better to say that these are five MMO movies I could see bundled together in some discount bin at a Blockbuster some day. So, IF Hollywood were to start making MMO movies en masse, these are the five I think most fitting and likely.
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Although it's not an MMO (YET!), I would like to see Mass Effect as a movie. I believe it could rival Star Wars in it's cult following.
Now City of Heroes/Villians would be a kick ass movie, it already reminds me of the last mutant heroes movie, I just forgot the name atm.
I think a Everquest movie is coming http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1122764/
City of Heroes/villains could actually be quite cool if done right. Unfortunately, my personal skepsis, says that this isn't likely to happen (neither getting it made, or that it would be made right, if it was made), and I'm a fan of the game - so I would propably watch it anyway
Tabula Rasa could also make a quite cool movie, but somehow I believe, that even if it got good, people would use all their argumentation powers, claiming it to be a rip-off of some other movie(s) already made
And perhaps it is just me, but I just picture an EVE movie, as an expanded Star Wars movie.. now with 4 factions instead of just Imperial and Rebels.. and with no jedis of course. But other than that I would actually believe that a movie about 4 interplanetary kingdoms at war, which would make all wars on earth look like insignifficant battles, would be a great concept. And if nothing else, then the large spacewar scenes.
I can just imagine it... and though I imagine it as quite cool, I can't stop imagining a Death Star hovering by, in the background at different times
I'm apparently quite bad at imagning movies or quite skeptic
I agree with all of them, except City of Heroes. Champions would make a better original super hero movie, out side of DC Comics and Marvel Comics.
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I agree with all of them, except City of Heroes. Champions would make a better original super hero movie, out side of DC Comics and Marvel Comics.
While I think a movie of either game could be awesome, I have to wonder, what would make Champions a better contender for a movie, than CoX? I have a little difficult seeing it. In CoX, the Freedom Phalanx Has been around for ages, and the game takes place just after the Rikti War, which could easily be made into a Superhero actionfilled-sci-fi-war-movie, but in the champions universe, while you certainly could make up a script for it, the most talked-about event (or so it seems at least, if you read through the CO website) is the Battle of Detroit, and where this also could be made into a killer script, it has one open fault: you wouldn't be able to used the established signature group, since it wasn't made yet at the time. James Harmon IV (Defender) becomes a hero because of the Battle of Detroit, and forms the Champions a few years later.
Since these high-lighted moments in their respective universe obviously would be the most interesting to make a movie about, it clearly has that fault in the CO universe. You could of course use some completely other characters, but it would just make people wonder, and in that case, you could just as well make it in any other superhero universe
Good read, and I agree, no more D&D movies, ever.
EVE universe would make a great show on SyFy channel on Friday nights, a la Farscape perhaps, and could focus on quite a few aspects of it over time.
As for my own choice, Matirx Online, someone should make that game into a movie, don't you think?
(Just don't make the sequels jump the shark)
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As for me, I'd like to see a Guild Wars and/or a Fallen Earth movie.
Yes, I know there have been both fantasy and post-apocalyptic movies, but I like the setting and lore for both of these games particularly well.
I also think The Secret World or Hellgate: London would make for pretty cool film settings.
Of the five games you mentioned, I think I'd be most inclined to see the movie version of Tabula Rasa, based solely on its setting, assuming the five films were all roughly equal in quality.
"EVE universe would make a great show on SyFy channel on Friday nights, a la Farscape perhaps, and could focus on quite a few aspects of it over time."<--I think this is a great idea.
But my vote of the 5 being made into a movie would have to be City of Heroes.If I remember right the idea was optioned by some production company years ago but nothing ever came of it.
All the elements are there for a good action packed movie.Just needs someone to do it.
And can you imagine what that would do for the games subscriptions numbers?
I haven't really thought about it before, but when you mentioned EVE I was...well...I think that would make a very, very good big budget sci-fi series on tv...or maybe a series of TV movies. You got me hopeing...damn you...hehe.
btw...totally agree. No more D&D movies!!!
Originally posted by m240gulf
Although it's not an MMO (YET!), I would like to see Mass Effect as a movie. I believe it could rival Star Wars in it's cult following.
Couldn't agree more, I think Mass Effect could be a great sci-fi movie.
The only 'MMO' I would love to see given a proper movie treatment would be Hellgate: London. Sure it has its flaws and was killed off (in the American market) by Namco Bandai, but as a setting for some compelling story, HGL had it in spades. Mankind at the brink of extinction from an interdimensional threat. Small bands of survivors fighting for existence and a burned out world.
I'm one of those that miss the game daily. I haven't seen gameplay any where near as satisfying in any other game, and the lore they were trying to share was never given its due. A film treatment could have character, explosions, and monsters. Make it a fitting tribute to a good game doomed from its start because the people behind it had no clue as to how to make it profitable.
I think it's a tad too late for an EQ movie, but I would sadly probablly still go watch it.
As far as DDO made into a movie. Just because a couple of people managed to get the rights to make a movie based on DnD and failed very badly. Doesn't mean someone else couldn't come along and do it right. I think if I did it myself, it would end up being mostly action and a little story.
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I would enjoy a Warhammer movie but not a WAR movie.
The setting of the classical Warhammer fantasy roleplaying game would be great. The dark horror and evil humor of Warhmmer would make a great movie, particulary Jack Yeovils "Drachenfels" would make a fantasy movie in class with certain Jackson movies.
A WAR movie however would be cheesy and superficial. lets stay away from that.
To be honest I think that MMOs so far had a lore that is just to bad to make a good movie.
Hopefully this will change as some companies actually started to hire competent authours to make the lore now. Jeff Grubb (Arenanet, wrote the classic FR series Curse of the azure bonds and a few other good novels) and R.A Salvatore (who works on Copernicus) are 2 good examples.
Singleplayer RPGs usually have a better lore than full MMOs, it is really odd since MMOs have so much resources. There are some with OK lore that uses borrowed IPs but none of them have really made justice to fellows like Tolkien and Howard.
Well, maybe SWG was as good as parts of the original lore, it had nothing worse then Jar-Jar at least.
Don't know about City of Heroes / Villains. There are too many super hero movies out there. It would get lost in the white noise of so many in that genre. I guess I should put the flame suit on for this next part.
I would like to see a World of Warcraft movie but i guess that may actually come to be since they are getting Sam Raimi to direct one in the near future. I am worried about any movie made from an MMO though since the reverse track ( any MMO made from the premise of a Movie ) has never yielded success.
Originally posted by hailtothor
I haven't really thought about it before, but when you mentioned EVE I was...well...I think that would make a very, very good big budget sci-fi series on tv...or maybe a series of TV movies. You got me hopeing...damn you...hehe.
btw...totally agree. No more D&D movies!!!
I think it would fit a lot better in a serie or in a Anime than in a actual movie. Eve, the Anime.. It works.
As for D&D, a forgotten realm or Dragonlance movie would still work, but the general crap they made earlier is just crap.
Nice username BTW.
I agree with warhammer and tabula rasa.
Warhammer would be better fantasy movie then wow, at leas tin my opinion and tabula rasa's intro movie was epic. first time I saw saw it, I thought this should be a movie. Has a great story to boot.
I however don't really think that a massive population of super heroes would make a good movie. Alot of cartoons took a stab at it and didn't really turn out. Justice league or the equivilant marvel movie would be enough superheroes in one movie. But not thousands...
EDIT: oh and iagree with some of the other posters. Eve wuld make a really good tv series or at leat a mini series. Maybe stick the Firefly people in Eve's world hehe.
Originally posted by Loke666
Originally posted by hailtothor
I haven't really thought about it before, but when you mentioned EVE I was...well...I think that would make a very, very good big budget sci-fi series on tv...or maybe a series of TV movies. You got me hopeing...damn you...hehe.
btw...totally agree. No more D&D movies!!!
I think it would fit a lot better in a serie or in a Anime than in a actual movie. Eve, the Anime.. It works.
As for D&D, a forgotten realm or Dragonlance movie would still work, but the general crap they made earlier is just crap.
Nice username BTW.
Yeah...and EVE anime might work rather well. That universe has allways intrigued me, so any anime/series/movie that shows up would, initially, get my attention.
And yeah...if they put some money into it and get some of the goog D&D writers to coloberate, it might be good. I'd prefer Forgotten Realms over Dragonlance though...
Hehe...you got a related username I see. Mine is a salute to my heritage...plain and simple
Of the 5 listed I think Tabula rasa has/had the best content to work with ( to make a movie of I mean ). It did indeed immediately set the atmosphere with the intro movie . You actually felt like you were entering a "movie " . I still think it's a shame it was canned after just one year and am hopeful someone will pick up the license .
I think Tabula Rasa might make a better series than a movie... think Stargate but with logos abilities and uglier aliens.
1. World of Warcraft - Already in the making.
2. Eve Online - Its in space so why not. We haven't had a good space flick in ages.
3. Guild Wars - It has a really good story for all of its's campaigns. Infact better than WoW.
4. City of Heroes - It can work, people like super hero movies.
5. Tabula Rasa - It reminded of me War of the Worlds. Still a shame this game does not exist today. All it needed was some love that NCSoft was unwilling to give it because they want Aion instead.
guild wars anime with 4 seasons each setup in its own game 1. prophecy
2. factions
3. nightfall
4. eye fo the north
5. gw 2
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Warcraft = Warhammer?
DDO or even the Eberron world would be pretty confusing for a movie. The two D&D movies were very poor examples of the elements that folks have come to expect in D&D. PnP Dungeon Masters have been plotting poor to incredible stories for thier sessions for years. Record of Lodoss Wars is an example of a D&D session taken and translated to anima with success. It can be done but it would have to have the elements we are about to see in the Hobbit films to win. Even the D&D animated series from the '80's is a much better success at translating content. As mention above, Dragonlance, Forgotten Realms and Greyhawk would be much better translations for a film if done with professionials that believe and know what they wish to capture in the story. I believe one of the D&D films was directed by no less than a non-film pro D&D player.
EVE would be a great movie. Even just making The Empyrean Age novel as a movie would rock.
Dark, morally complex storytelling with hardly anything in the way of aliens (even the Jovians were human once.) It'd be awesome.


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Wonderful ProductI'm using Colora Water Powder and I love it. Not stain the scalp and cover the gray hair perfectly. Doesn't need apply heat and leave my hair shinny. The only think I don't like it's I have to use one bottle in a half. One bottle it's not enough although I don't have much hair.
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Vague Bottle But Great ResultsOn bleached hair this comes out brilliant pink. I did streaks initially and used a blue dye on the underside of my hair. When I bleached my hair to remove the old colors the pink stayed so if you want a pink that sticks this is it :)
Was this review helpful?(Yes)(No)Mar 25, 2012XandraHAIR TYPEBlonde / Normal Hair
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