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Skip to comments.Gun Vanity Time!! In the market for an AR-10 platform...
Posted on 11/14/2012 10:38:45 AM PST by DTogo
Supplementing a bolt action Ruger American Rifle in .308, looking to acquire an AR-10 for hunting, range time, etc. Researching manufacturers such as DPMS, Bushmaster, Armalite, but of course in CT there are unconstitutional limitations on models that can be sold.
Your input/suggestions ("Banglist" ping) welcome here.
You might want to check out the Springfield M1A SOCOM. It has a flat top receiver with rails so you can mount a scout scope on it along with lots of other goodies. .308 cal. Very accurate right out of the box. Kinda pricey though.
Not an AR-10, but FN-FAL and other weapons that might trip your trigger.
It has a gas piston instead of a direct impingement system, which I personally prefer.
I'd give you the direct link, but I am behind a firewall.
Side question - Is anyone making a AR-06 lower? Specifically an AR lower that will handle the length of a 30-06? Ideally, I'd like an AR in .35 Whelen. I assume I can get a custom barrel for the upper. Not so sure about the lower. Can't seem to find much on the web.
I have owned a DPMS in 7.62 NATO for about three years and it is the finest black gun that I own. It has very little recoil... just a bit more that the 5.56 and very little muzzle rise (maybe 2 inches). It will shoot quarter sized groups at 100 yards without special loads. It likes to run wet and has gobbled up every bit of ammo that I have fed to it. If you want a 7.62 NATO semi... this is the weapon that I recommend.
Yeah, am thinking about the Springfield M1 as well, but like the "M-16" feel of the AR-10.
You can't go wrong with a Stag. I got one not too long ago at Jo-Jo's Gun Works in Southington.
Likely that the FN-FAL is not "compliant" in CT, but I'll inquire. Thanks!
Don't kill the opposition. Wound them and let them suffer.
A dead man is just a dead man.
A wounded man required medics, transport via ambulance and medical staff.
_ Another thing..... Democrats hate and FEAR guns and once wounded are not going to fight. They will only try and get others to do the fighting for them.
The US military won't stand for that for long. They will desert, retire and join together and support us.
The trouble is that VERY few people in this country have any spine left so none of this is relevant anyway.
Learn to live under a Dictatorship and shut the fuc* up.
Is that Stag in .308 or 5.56? I'm looking for .308.
The Armalite AR10 more stopping power than the feeble 5.56, thats what the AR stands for. Mine goes bang everytime I pull the trigger, have put many thousands of rounds through it.The AR platform was originally designed by Eugene Stoner for the 308 round.
The Armalite shoots really well, and with the new 25 round mags, it represents a significant defense asset.
Another vote for the DPMS LR-308 series. Whether you get the Scout Sniper trim or the shorty AP4 model... I've heard nothing but good things about them. Price, quality, and accuracy.
Also have the DPMS. Great fire arm. Powerful, accurate and reliable. Hearing good things about the kel tec bull pup.
I'm a Saiga guy...even in .308.
I shoot lefty and it's great that brass doesn't fly in my face any more. It sucks in CT, though....The adjustable stocks are illegal. For my .308, I have a Saiga with a BIG bang. LOL
I started as a G3/CETME guy... I'll suggest a PTR91, cheaper, MUCH cheaper mags and about the same accuracy.
The new VEPRs are another option and now have steel 20 round mags available. They are not quite as accurate, but very reliable.
Disclosure, my favorite .308 is a Galil...
I have the AP4 but I modified it to suit my needs.
DPMS Baby! Definitely on my shopping list.
Very dependable and can reach out and touch someone accurately.
Also a real nice long distance cordless drill...
I have an AR (5.56) and an FN FAL (.308).
Frankly, I prefer the FAL for function over the AR system. Esepecially the left side charging handle, which is the proper location for a righty.
I shoot the Springfield M1A and I love it.
I passed on the SOCOM because I was hearing all kinds of problems with accuracy beyond 100 yrds.
I think it is due to a 16" barrel.
I went with 18 and it's fabulous....
Best part is if I run out of ammo it is easily converted to a bat for clubbing zombies .....
Move out of CT first. Then buy the gun.
No questions on this for me -—get a Noveske N6-—
I'd also throw in a geissele trigger and opt for a 14.5 inch barrel with a 1.5 inch flash suppressor (welded on).
Barrel sounds short, but Novezke makes such a good barrel that you be MOA at sick freaking distances still
A friend has the M1A SOCOM and it shoots pretty well out past 200 yards. Not as good as the regular model and I do believe it is because of the shorter barrel. The other thing is that the thing is LOUD and the muzzle blast is a sight to behold!
I have regular M1A with the synthetic stock. It has probably the best factory trigger that I have ever shot. The only thing I don't care for is the standard scope mount puts the line of sight so high that you can't get a good cheek weld with the standard stock configuration.
LOVE my FAL STG 58. It's a straight-shooting work of art! Even with my tired ol' eyes, I can keep in on the paper offhand at 100 yds.
Of course, if you want to do long range tack driving, get a barrel longer than 16", but just keep in mind that due to the larger cartridge, the action and barrel of an AR-10 is going to be quite perceptibly heavier than a similar length rifle or carbine in 5.56.
I know a lot of folks don't like direct impingement systems, but I've never had an issue with reliability or fouling, and I shoot a lot of old, cheap NATO spec Portugese surplus ammo.
Rock River Arms has a 308 line.
My rifke started like with an adjustable stock, but I removed it for an Ace skeleton stock. Never cold get used to the movement of the 6 position thing. Learned to shoot with the M-14 with all that nice wood to snuggle up to.
My rifle started like with an adjustable stock, but I removed it for an Ace skeleton stock. Never cold get used to the movement of the 6 position thing. Learned to shoot with the M-14 with all that nice wood to snuggle up to.
Same here. Mine now wears a fixed stock, rifle length gas system and 18.5" chrome lined barrel from Fulton-Criterion.
Well, let me define issue...it never hit me in the face, but it does eject in front of you and is kind of distracting. The Stag 2TL I have makes that go away.
I also have a chrome lined barrel, different stock and optics.
I too have a DPMS AP4 .308, which is great fun to shoot.
The muzzle blast and noise out of the 16" barrel is a little intense, however.
I don't know what advantages the SOCOM has over a 16" AR in .308 that justifies the SOCOM costing almost twice as much.
I leave in KahLeeFawnEeYuh. I can't get a 14.5" barrel.
Freaking Kommunistas .....
Yeah. It's tough to scope it correctly but I love it without the scope.
I do want the super super sniper one that comes with a Bender & Schmitt scope.
Probably voting another M1 in same config first and a DPMS or FNL before I buy that.
Should this AR-10 platform be applied in a self defense scenario, it would be preferable to terminate the opposition immediately. As for lacking a spine to uphold and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic, you are addressing the wrong person.
That said, I have taken it upon myself to retrain decades of habit to learn shooting a rifle right handed. Did it with handguns, should work for long guns too. Multiple benefits for me, like being right eye dominant, might finally be able to use a bolt gun, etc.
Thanks for the DPMS endorsement. Now if my usual gun store here in CT can only get some in stock...
After early training and expertise with iron sights that scope users often refuse to believe, I have started using a scope. And embarassed myself. Now finding there is a bit to it, depending on the scope. Parallax seems my downfall now. Did not realize how small movement behind the scope could move POI. Iron sights do not allow that of course so self-correct.
Hate the idea of $$ for a parallax adjustable scope, but may have to.
25 round mags in .308? Interesting!
Next time the Saiga's come round (in stock) I'll likely pick one of those up too.
That is being discussed, but we like our home, surroundings, and Conservative friends (yes, we exist here in CT).
POF makes a piston AR.308 with a billet receiver but they are not cheap... https://pof-usa.com/16.5-p308-black.html
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Camera (color, widescreen, HD), Lee Jung-bae, Jang Won-wook; editor, Moon In-dae; music, Jo Young-wook; production designer, Lee Yo-han; costume designer, Yoo Ji-yeon; sound (Dolby Digital), Seo Young-june; re-recording mixer, Kim Young-moon; visual effects supervisors, Baek Kyung-soo, Kim Jun-hyung; visual effects, Digital Idea; Action choreographer, Heo Myong-haeng; line producer, Daniel Son; assistant directors, Lee Hwan-hwee, Park Kyeong-hwan. Reviewed at Busan Film Festival (Korean Cinema Today), Oct. 5, 2012. Running time: 128 MIN.
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Which of these women was NOT part of the "Final Four"?
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Who did Barney sleep with at Marshall and Lily's apartment?
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Which former flame attacks Barney in the episode "The Bracket"?
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Who broke Barney and Shannon up?
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True or false: Barney and Robin stayed married until they died.
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What did Barney and Nora bond over?
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Where do Barney and Quinn get engaged?
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Which girl causes Barney to break the Platinum Rule?
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Which former world leader did Barney bed?
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Whom does Barney drop in favor of his suits?
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Who played Barney's conquest Karina?
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Yousuf Karsh, who died in Boston in July 2002 aged 93, is popularly known as the great camera portraitist of the most esteemed world figures and celebrities of the mid to late 20th century. His subjects included politicians, religious leaders, royalty, artists, writers, dancers, actors, singers, musicians, explorers, scientists and physicians. Born in 1908 to Armenian parents in Mardin, Turkey, Yousuf Karsh had first-hand experience of political strife when the Turks persecuted his family. Travelling alone across the world in 1924 at the age of sixteen, Karsh was able to immigrate to Canada where his uncle, George Nakash, had a portrait photography studio in Quebec. Karsh first trained with his uncle and then in Boston in the portrait studio of fellow Armenian John H. Garo. Karsh moved back to Ottawa in 1932, where he established his own studio. From the 1970s until he retired in 1994, Karsh had his studio in the lavish Chateau Laurier, a landmark building in the best street in Ottawa. Karsh's mentor, John Garo, had made rather soft, idealised romantic portraits in the prevailing style of art photography, but Karsh developed his own modern look with dramatic, sharp and strongly lit close-ups. Karsh's experience with stage lighting as a member of the Ottawa Little Theatre was a factor in his technique, and through this theatrical circle he made political and social contacts that led to clients for his business.
From as early as 1936 Karsh was becoming known for his modern portraits of visiting statesmen and dignitaries, who were often set against a darkened background, spot-lit like actors on a stage, and shown close-up revealing every detail of hair, skin and clothes. He used large format cameras with up to 8 x 10 plates and huge banks of lights to transform his subjects. Karsh's international reputation was made when his portrait of British prime minister Winston Churchill — then in Ottawa for a political meeting during World War II — was used on the cover of Life magazine in December 1941.1 According to legend, Karsh whipped Churchill's beloved cigar out of his mouth a moment before making his exposure. (By contrast Karsh would later persuade the formidable USSR leader Nikita S. Khrushchev to don his native headgear of a Siberian fur hood and smile like a jolly Santa Claus.) The portrait of Churchill became the iconic image of the wartime leader and was even the model for his portrait in Madame Tussaud's wax museum in London. Churchill is not 'scowling', as the image is so often described, and its success surely had more to do with making the not very photogenic Churchill exude the right mix of concern, bullying strength and vision. These were the qualities then needed to reassure the public across the Commonwealth as they faced their enemies in Europe.
Although Karsh credited his beloved mother with being an inspiration to his work, he did not return to Armenia until late in life. From the time of his success with the Churchill portrait, Karsh did, however, spend much of his life travelling across the world to photograph the good, the great and the gifted among world figures, or 'people of consequence' as he called them. He produced numerous publications, beginning with Faces of Destiny in 1946. Signing himself 'Karsh of Ottawa', the photographer became a celebrity in his own right and world leaders felt slighted if not selected to be 'Karshed'. In many cases Karsh's camera portrait became the best known image of the subject. Karsh, a devout Catholic, had a belief in individual greatness and in role models in society. This was perhaps fuelled by his knowledge, gained early in life, of how cruel human beings could be to each other. Although his sitters were mostly commissioned portraits, there is a sense in which Karsh put his own imprimatur on a pantheon of well-known people whom he saw as deserving of their fame through merit, not birthright. He did not 'do' glamour per se and his female subjects are handsome rather than 'fair ladies'. Stories abound about how Karsh managed to get his subjects to co-operate, regardless of the location or how short a session he might have been allocated. As one critic commented, 'Clearly Karsh used a lot more than lighting on his subjects. His conversational foreplay was as spontaneous as his portraits were staged.'2 Karsh also developed a distinctive style of dark, dramatic, large exhibition prints up to a metre in width or height (as shown in this exhibition) with startling depth and detail. Karsh's photographs were the equivalent in the portrait field to the monumental landscape photographs of his American contemporary Ansel Adams.
Yousuf Karsh was at the height of his career in the 1960s and 1970s when he was the star of the Canadian pavilion at the World Expo '67 in Osaka. Several large exhibitions of his work toured internationally in these years. By the time he died in 2002, Karsh had been awarded an Honorary Fellowship of the Royal Photographic Society and almost every possible form of recognition from his photographic peers across the world. He received national and international honours including an award as Officer of the Order of Canada and a number of honorary degrees from Canadian and American universities.
Gael Newton
1 The Canadian Government then sent Karsh to London to photograph the other leaders of wartime Britain and Life magazine commissioned portraits of American military leaders.
2 Sarah Boxer, 'An Understanding of How to Picture Fame', The New York Times, 11 August 2002, p. 31 (a review of Karsh works at Yancey Richardson Gallery, New York)
The only Australian in the Karsh collection is a portrait of expatriate Sister Kenny, who developed treatment regimes for poliomyelitis. Karsh had most likely never heard of his contemporary in Melbourne, Louis Athol Shmith, who was something of a legendary character in his home city. Shmith was born in Melbourne in 1914 and came from a comfortable and cultured middle-class family; his father was a respected chemist and a fine pianist. Athol Shmith played the vibraphone and considered music as a possible career. His father gave him a camera as a teenager and what was a hobby became a profession in his late teens when Shmith, who had an interest in theatre and played at charity performances, was asked to take the publicity photographs and stills for a show. He saw there was a career in his former hobby and, supported by his family, established a studio in St Kilda. For the first five years he specialised in theatre work and society and wedding portraits. In 1939 he moved to a studio in Collins Street (where all the best photographers were located), run with the assistance of his brother and sister. Shmith first made his reputation with society weddings and portraits, but his professional break came in the early 1930s when he gained the contract to take portraits of visiting celebrities for the newly formed Australian Broadcasting Commission. Shmith's work expanded to include a range of commercial advertising and illustration and appeared in local society magazines. He exhibited his works in photographic salons at home and abroad, gaining a Fellowship of the Royal Photographic Society in 1933. He also held an appointment as Vice Regal Photographer in Melbourne and had the contract for work for theatre producer J.C. Williamson.
Influenced in his early career by the soft impressionistic style of turn-of-the-century art photographers, Shmith later embraced the clearer light, bolder compositions and design emphasis of modernism. By the late 1930s he was seen as representing a new modern style of work. After World War II Shmith embraced the New Look and the spirit of post-war recovery in fashion illustration, becoming the most respected professionalin the field in Australia. Throughout the 1960s Shmith remained energetic and dynamic in his development of fashion work. By the close of the decade Shmith began to take on roles in photographic heritage and education. In 1968 he helped to establish a photography department at the National Gallery of Victoria and in 1971 closed his business1 to take on a new role as head of the Photography Department at Prahran College of Advanced Education. Until ill health caused his retirement from the College in 1979, Shmith was a significant support to the rising generation of documentary and artist photographers such as Carol Jerrems and Bill Henson. Shmith's work was largely based in his home city of Melbourne.
Athol Shmith's photographs created a world of grace, glamour and allure. In later life Shmith undervalued his own commercial work but, under the new wave of interest in photography as art, Shmith's work was collected by the major art museums in the 1970s and 1980s and he had a retrospective in 1977 at the Australian Centre for Photography. He was made a member of the Order of Australia in 1981. A small monograph on his work was published in 1980 and a more substantial one was written by curator Isobel Crombie and published in association with his major retrospective at the National Gallery of Victoria in 1989.
Athol Shmith was, like Karsh, urbane, charming and witty but possibly more madcap. Shmith was less concerned with the gravitas and moral exemplar of 'greatness' than with the imparting of elan, style and creative spirit. He was fascinated with his subjects rather than in awe of them. Even though his subjects are most often in a soft and more sensuous focus than the robust men and women in Karsh's world, they often seem closer to the viewer. Shmith, who prided himself on his skill in lighting, had learned much from the model of European modernism and the quirkiness of surrealism. He was also indebted to the top-lit and back-lit glowing 'Hollywood lighting' style of portraiture popularised by Californian photographer George Hurrell in the 1920s and 1930s. He described his portrait of actress Vivien Leigh in costume as lit by his 'inky dinky light', a top spotlight diffused by tracing paper. Where Karsh made even beautiful women look strong, Shmith treated his female sitters and models as princesses.
Athol Shmith did know about Yousuf Karsh but thought his photographs made the subjects look like 'empty buildings'.2 Both Karsh and Shmith shared an equal passion for their medium of expression. The development of a more rarefied photographic art scene in museums and a new scepticism among the young towards authority figures from the 1960s on led to their styles of work being seen as outdated aesthetically and politically. While different in their mood and approach to the portraiture of the good, the great and the gifted, Karsh and Shmith excelled at their work, and their passion for photography was inextricably linked to the passport the medium gave them to wider and more exotic worlds. Both Karsh and Shmith have extensive holdings in the collection of the National Gallery of Australia.
Gael Newton
1 Operated since 1950 in association with John Cato, son of Melbourne photographer and photo-historian Jack Cato.
2 In an interview with Peter Adams in 1986, Shmith said: 'In a sense, Karsh's portraits are like empty buildings. He photographs the person's face, not the person's soul. His pictures remind me of Detroit car photos — probably a ridiculous analogy, but everything's just a little too perfect and the end result is rather slick. You are forced to decide what is important about Karsh's work: his collection of subjects, or his collection of pictures.'
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January 18 2013 12:37PM
Will Jordan Schroeder be Vancouver's final cut this evening before they set the 23-man roster?
By 5 PM PST today, the Canucks will have to trim their roster to fit under the 23-man roster limit. The Chicago Wolves issued a release stating that the Canucks have already returned eight players to rejoin their ranks and none of the names come as a surprise: Darren Archibald, Andrew Gordon, Anton Rodin, Bill Sweatt, Peter Andersson, Kevin Connauton, Derek Joslin and Joe Cannata.
So that would leave the Canucks with, by my count, twenty-four players still on Vancouver's roster: nine defenseman, thirteen forwards and two goaltenders.
So who will the last cut be? Is Jordan Schroeder really going to crack the opening night roster? Read on past the jump.
Barring a major surprise, it would appear to me that the remaining candidates to be waived by end of day Friday would be: either one of Jordan Schroeder or Andrew Ebbet, or alternatively one of the depth defenseman in Cam Barker or Jim Vandermeer.
Of those four players, three of them are on two-way deals per Capgeek (Andrew Ebbett, Jim Vandermeer and Jordan Schroeder) and I believe that the only player who would be able to be sent down without having to clear waivers would be Jordan Schroeder. I'd qualify that I don't quite have the same familiarity with the new CBA than I did with the old one (partly because no one a fully copy of the agreement has yet to leak or be made public), but my understanding is that Schroeder is a year away from requiring waivers, while Ebbett would require waivers to be sent down based on his NHL experience.
That puts the young, undersized centerman at a distinct disadvantage especially considering the way Vancouver has handled these sorts of decisions in the past. For what it's worth Gillis specifically mentioned on the Team 1040 earlier today that, while no decision has been made on this front yet and that the team does have a couple of "waiver concerns" that they're "dealing with."
One can't help but wonder if Andrew Ebbett, for example, is useful enough that he might be claimed on waivers (if only by a Western Conference rival looking to put the Canucks in a tough spot). I'd imagine the Canucks would be leery about that possibility, as well they should be.
On the other hand, in his Team 1040 interview today, Gillis also said that he wanted to give "younger players" a chance to demonstrate what they could do at the NHL level. Also while the Canucks care deeply about their depth especially along the blue-line, it could superficially make more sense to to keep thirteen forwards on the roster and eight defenseman than it would to keep twelve forwards, nine defenseman and maybe be forced into using Alberts as an emergency forward like they did in a game against Montreal last season. No one wants to see that.
My feel for it is that Ebbett is probably safe (he's just too important while Kesler is out with injury), so that assumption is sound it would leave one of Barker, Schroeder or Vandermeer as the most likely players to be "the final cut" at some point today. It may well be Jordan Schroeder who gets the axe as the team looks to get under the 23-man roster limit, but I'd expect to see him get an extended look in short order - even if he doesn't make the opening night roster.
Update: as suspected Jordan Schroeder is a victim of the "numbers game" and is on his way back to Chicago. He'll be back though folks, probably soon.
Correction: this post originally misidentified Jim Vandermeer as being on a one-way deal.
If Schroeder loses his job because Gillis wants to keep Barker as the 9th defenseman, heads are going to roll.
Not sure it changes what you are saying much, but Jim Vandermeer is also on a two-way contract. I'm guessing that he also has to clear waivers? Though would anyone claim him?
Too bad, I liked Patrick's argument for Schroeder.
January 18 2013, 01:53PM
Would it make a difference for the roster if they put Booth or Kesler on the Injured Reserve list? This would also save some capspace that might come in handy later in the season towards the trade deadline.
January 18 2013, 02:10PM
Both would have to be out for a minimum 10 games and 24 days, in order for that to open a roster spot. When either of them came back the Canucks would have to get back to the roster number by sending players down.
January 18 2013, 02:17PM
".....either one of Jordan Schroeder or Andrew Ebbet, or alternatively one of the depth defenseman in Cam Barker or Jim Vandermeer. Of those four players, two of them are on two-way deals per Capgeek (Andrew Ebbett and Jordan Schroeder) and I believe that the only player who would be able to be sent down without having to clear waivers would be Jordan Schroeder"
Actually all 4 of those players are on two way deals. Schroeder just happens to make the least amount of all of them in the AHL. That is hardly a sticking point for the Canucks.
If the Canucks can keep the 1st and 3rd lines in tact they obviously will. Moving Schroeder down would require Higgins, or Lappiere to move up to the 2nd and completely ruin the dynamic of the 3rd.
Im thinking Barker or Vandemeer are going...in all likelyhood its Barker. No one is picking up either of those guys on waivers.
January 18 2013, 02:24PM
@Patrick Kelly
I made a mistake on Barker. He is not on a 2 way deal. But Im guessing he is still first in line to go down.
@Patrick Kelly
That's true, another way to see "cap management" is to waive Cam Barker. No one wants that contract--you want him, you pay him 700,000.
January 18 2013, 03:26PM
@ Patrick Kelly. Thanks for clarifying; wasn't sure if it had changed under the new CBA.
Yet I still think that it would have been / would still be a sensible thing for the Canucks to do. Placing Kesler and Booth on IR thing I mean. It's confirmed Booth is out for 4-6 weeks. The Canucks play their 10th game on 7 February against the Wild. No way will he be back before that. Even doubt that Kesler will be in the line-up before that.
It's really too bad that AV didn't give the kid a chance. Even if it wasn't on opening night but against the Oil. How is he ever going to become an NHL-er without ever getting a shot. And if the Canucks were able to shelter Hodgson last year, why not do it this year with Schroeder. Yes, it's a shortened season, but we'll still make the play-offs.
canucks were only able to shelter CoHo last season because they had Kesler and Sedin. when you don't have the C depth, you can't properly shelter especially with AV's line deployment.
January 19 2013, 01:33AM
@Thomas Drance
Bah no biggie. I swore that Barker was on a two way. (How was he not signed to a 2 way?!?!?!)
Either way I doubt Barker sticks and it sound like they might actually use Vandemeer as a forward at times on the 4th to add some toughness.
January 19 2013, 01:49AM
To be clear the rule is 10 games AND 24 days, not whichever comes first.
I think there is more to this than AV and Gillis not giving Schroeder a shot. Given his ability to pass freely because he isnt subject to waivers, I would imagine that had a big part in the decision.
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Francesco Parisi
University of Minnesota - Law School; University of Bologna
European Journal of Law and Economics, Vol. 18, No. 3, pp. 259-272, December 2004
George Mason Law & Economics Research Paper No. 04-22
During its relatively short history, the law and economics movement has developed three distinct schools of thought. The first two schools of thought, often referred to as the Chicago or positive school and the Yale or normative school, developed almost concurrently. The functional school of law and economics, which developed subsequently, draws from public choice theory and the constitutional perspective of the Virginia school of economics to offer a third perspective which is neither fully positive nor fully normative. Various important methodological questions have accompanied the debate between these schools concerning the appropriate role of economic analysis in the institutional design of lawmaking and the limits of methods of evaluation of social preferences and aggregate welfare in policy analysis. These debates have contributed to the growing intellectual interest in the economic analysis of law.
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Teachers at Castle Rock's Renaissance Expeditionary Learning Outward Bound School regularly expose their students to outdoor experiences designed to challenge and enlighten. On Sept. 6 and 7, a dozen of them led by example.
The team completed the 200–mile, overnight Ragnar Relay Series from Copper Mountain to Snowmass. The series, held in locations across the country, involves teams of six to 12 who run in shifts. Each participant runs three times at varying distances and terrain.
"As teacher and educators, we are walking away with so much more knowledge and understanding for kids, especially as we get ready to send them out on these adventure ed programs," teacher Lindsey Burris said. "It definitely has given us new eyes to look at our kids through. We were in that vulnerable place they are."
Lauren Gunn, a non-runner when she agreed to be part of the team, agrees.
"We walk the path, and try and do the same things (our students) do," she said. "Even if we're not runners, we're not letting fear stop us."
Students at the K-6 school participate in outdoor education adventures twice a year. Teachers said the overnight odyssey gives them an experience to draw from when asking students to rise to a challenge.
"I can say, 'I want you to push yourself to the point you are stepping out and taking a risk. It's OK to fail because you have people around you that will support you,' " Burris said.
That support from their fellow teachers during the 200-mile run was vital, the participants said. As one teammate ran, the others drove the course in a van looking for their fellow runner, then stopped to cheer that person on.
"In the middle of the night, I was getting delusional I was so tired," Gunn said. "But when you felt like there was nothing left, suddenly you would see your van pulled over and there they were — all cheering."
The support expanded to include teacher Hanni Gilbert, who had to drop out of the race when she suffered a debilitating migraine the morning of the event. Teammates rallied to take her legs of the race, and ran with a T-shirt bearing her name.
Students also urged their teachers on toward success before race day.
"For me, having those encouraging words and the visualization of their little faces just pushed me that extra mile," Burris said.
The experience not only enabled the teachers to relate more intimately to their students' outdoor challenges, but brought them closer as a teaching team.
"People ask, 'What place did you finish? What was our overall time?' " said first-year Renaissance teacher Amanda Deegan. "I don't even know because that wasn't what it was about.
"I feel like I have a family at this school. It's not just a job. These are people I've been through a lot with already."


text: Next → This Day In History: The Cancer Close to the Presidency ← Previous Leffler Assesses Bush Administration's History and Legacy Ten Years after the Invasion of Iraq You might also like... Escaping Quagmires: Ted Kennedy and the 2003 War in Iraq (09/27/16) Is President Obama prepared to release thousands of prisoners? 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This week marks the tenth anniversary Operation Iraqi Freedom. On March 20, 2003, a U.S.-led invasion force entered Iraq through the Persian Gulf and began to secure southern port cities and oil fields in a quick and decisive operation. By April 9, Baghdad had fallen and Saddam Hussein's 24-year reign was over. The Iraq War, however, would not end until late 2011, by which time it had claimed countless Iraqi lives, over 4,400 American lives, and cost the U.S. economy trillions of dollars, not to mention other geopolitical side effects. For good or for bad, the War in Iraq will forever be tied to the legacy of President George W. Bush. In his last year in office, Bush marked the ongoing war's fifth anniversary by praising the coalitions forces that had "removed a tyrant, liberated a country, and rescued millions from unspeakable horrors." Explaining broad, long-term strategic goals, Bush argued that by nurturing democracy in Iraq, "we will help free societies take root [in the Middle East]." He had stressed similar themes in his 2004 State of the Union address, framing the mission as a means of building goodwill and defeating seeds of terrorism in the region. "As long as the Middle East remains a place of tyranny and despair and anger," Bush explained, "it will continue to produce men and movements that threaten the safety of America and our friends." Ten years later, Operation Iraqi Freedom leaves a complicated legacy for many Americans. Liberal New York Times columnist Paul Krugman remembers the lack of critical media coverage during the initial months of the invasion in 2003. To oppose the war in the media ten years ago, Krugman writes, was a "career-ending" decision. International news outlets continue to grapple with the ramifications of the Iraq War as well. This month, for instance, London-based The Guardian reported a public inquiry regarding the treatment of Iraqi prisoners by British and American forces in 2004. More noticeable, though, is the general lack of intense media coverage of the anniversary. Krugman calls it suspect. Perhaps it is the product of a people that is eager to move on. Criticism directed towards President Bush regarding the War in Iraq has hardly ceased since 2003, but Bush is not without his defenders. Last fall, Stephen Knott, a former co-chair of the Miller Center's Oral History Project, returned to the Miller Center to discuss his recent book Rush to Judgment: George W. Bush, The War on Terror, and His Critics. In his book, Knott does not argue that the Iraq War was completely justified, but rather he asserts that President Bush has been treated unfairly by partisans in the media and academia. 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You need to thoroughly understand the context of the area…and the history of long war and complex relations…Know the history and know how the history informs the present in the minds of the people you are going to be dealing with….But know more than that, know the culture, know the language and know the literature. The second lesson is to be careful what you get into, but be at least as careful about what you propose to get out of. Once you have set these forces in motion, there can be even graver consequences…Americans may think we've turned the page, that Iraq is done and now let's move on… But that is what our allies have come to fear from us and our enemies have to come to expect…This is a long war not always fought by force of arms, but our engagement in Iraq over the long term is going to be very important for the prospects for long-term stability in that key country. Ten years after the war, Americans should remember Iraq. 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Skip to comments.Major setback in fiscal cliff talks
Posted on 12/30/2012 12:59:24 PM PST by Sub-Driver
Major setback in fiscal cliff talks By: Manu Raju and John Bresnahan December 30, 2012 12:15 PM EST
Negotiations between Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and Minority Leader Mitch McConnell suffered a major setback after Republicans demanded the inclusion of a new method for calculating entitlement benefits as part of the fiscal cliff package, according to Democrats.
The provision, known as chained CPI, is opposed by many liberals because it would result in lower payments for Social Security beneficiaries.
While President Barack Obama has backed the provision as part of a major deficit package, Democrats are objecting to including this as part of the negotiations on a scaled-down fiscal cliff deal. They say theyve already given ground on other issues, including raising the threshold for new taxes to around $400,000 annually as well as showing flexibility on estate taxes, sources said.
But Republicans are insisting on the chained CPI provision in exchange for raising taxes.
On the Senate floor, Reid ruled out any cuts to Social Security as part of any agreement to avert the fiscal cliff.
(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...
Raising taxes on the rich will only make matters worse and will result in increased unemployment.
We need economic growth which will only come from creating more taxpayers. We need tax cuts; and we need budget cuts--NOW!!
Let me get this straight: Dems have given ground and have shown flexibility, and the GOP wants to cut Social Security.
Oh, I see, it's from Politico.
Republicans should just submit a bill to the Senate that makes the Bush tax cuts permenant for everyone.
Bill two addresses sequestration.
Bill three addresses Chained CPI.
Bill four addresses the dairy farmers.
Bill five addresses the debt limit.
Bill six addresses deficit reduction.
Give every bill to the Senate tonight with the premise that the house will take up tax increases on those making over $250,000 in 2013.
I would never go along with increasing taxes on those with incomes of over $250,000 without making a HUGE deal of it through the press. Somehow the braindead voters of this country has to be made to understand our problem is NOT under taxing of the rich—it is over spending.
Not that I disagree with you, but the problem with that is that those brain dead voters voted to receive some of that spending. They'll be happy as long as they get theirs.
Not children....they are what you find in a diaper.
So President Bain was willing to "compromise". Too bad we don't have a Dark Knight to truly oppose him.
When you check out wome of the crap they spend our tax dolars on ya have to wonder if anyone has a clue?
You folks in Iowa cold??
Can you believe the stupidity of proposing a cut in social security?? Talk about stupid, Cut welfare!! cut foreign aid. Cut foreign military bases!! Not the social security which we paid for!!
and which President/Congress did not have a Cost of Living Adjustment for SS for the first couple of years?
Who said anything about cutting SS? CPI might lower the increases though.
WHich Prez/Congress didn't even give a COLA to SS recipients for the couple of years?
Of course.
We need to just let it expire. Let it be the dems problem.
Considering the nature of SS from the beginning, the age at which a recipient can begin to receive it should be adjusted each year according to actuarial tables.
I agree. It would be one of those promises that are never kept. Time for the Republicans to play like the Democrats.
>> Not the social security which we paid for!!
But it's an 'entitlement' now.
He'll be heading to FL in a couple of months with our daughters, who take him there once a year, but not until after the chance of snow is over. I'm not kidding.
I disagree. We worked under a contract agreement.That agreement had the age at 66 for full benefits. You shall not breach that agreement. Talk about tables? How about the table of earnings on our money? It is a trust fund!! Lock box right? They didn't steal our money did they. That is theft!! a felony!!
"McConnell said he had called Vice President Joe Biden his former Senate colleague whom he has previously worked with to cut bipartisan deals 'to see if he could help jump-start the negotiations on his side.'
What? Send in "The Clown" Biden?
A sure sign this "deal" isn't likely to happen!
CPI is already one of the most heavily cooked numbers on the planet, and the Republicans say they want to tweak it to cook the numbers even more, resulting in less SS for people who spent their lives paying into it.
But you may be in the camp that considers SS "welfare."
The way it is going to work out unless the Republicans totally surrender and gives them more than they asked for is the Democrats have no intention of giving an inch. What Reid and Obama want is exactly what Obama authorized Reid to place on the floor and they will allow no deviation. The MSM will fall all over Obama singing his praises. That's been the plan from the start.
Yeah...and when Obamacare kicks in life expectancy is going back to the original 65.
Resulting in a big increase in SS payments.
Let it go over the cliff. All these jerks who voted for Obama because he promised to raise the taxes on the top 2% can start paying their fair share now. Raise everyones taxes, cut the spending and go on down the road. Time for the 47% to step up to the plate.
Zactly. It is a diversion.
As of 2011, the earliest age for Social Security retirement benefits is 62, but those opting to receive benefits at this age will see benefits reduced by a fraction of a percent for every month before the full retirement age. For those born before 1943, the full retirement age is 65. For those born between 1943 and 1959, the full retirement age is 66, and those born after 1960 receive full retirement benefits at 67.
Later Retirement
Those delaying taking Social Security benefits until after the full retirement age for their particular date of birth may increase benefits by a monthly percentage for each month until reaching age 70.
This regime did not put through any COLA increases for SS recipients the first two years. The last two increases have been eaten up by Medicare increases.
This is something nobama brought up. Now the pubs are for it and the Dems are again it? Welcome to bizarro world.
Besides, how much lower than 1.7% do they want to go? Much lower and they might as well forget about it.
Social security didn't start out as a welfare program but it has been moving in that direction over the years. The system cannot sustain the millions of people claiming disability who paid little or nothing into the system but will collect a lifetime of benefits. It is also not sustainable when the average person collects 4X as much as they pay into the plan. These problems will only grow bigger as our workforce continues to shrink from obama-nomics and the pool of retirees grows from baby boomers retiring. I don't want anybody to get less then what they are entitled to but something has to change.
If I'd been allowed to invest what they took from me in FICA, I'd *have* 4X as much as I paid in. It's the miracle of compounded interest.
Good FReepers have written to me (with I assume straight faces) that SS needs to be means tested, because it's "not fair Bill Gates can collect SS." Bullcarp. If he paid in as I did, he deserves payout. Even alleged conservatives have fallen for the "Well, SS turned into welfare, so we need to screw good people over because they're just filthy, grubbing welfare recipients" leftist propaganda.
Bottom line: If by some miracle your 401K survives to your retirement, your Social Security will be reduced as punishment for scrimping and saving your whole life.
Hello newbie...
...I disagree. We worked under a contract agreement.That agreement had the age at 66 for full benefits. You shall not breach that agreement....
check your social security statement, there is no contract Congress can and does change the law anytime it wants look at WEP. SS is a ponzi scheme that should have Congress in jail, but they write the rules until such time as the people take back the country or we have honest politicians (LOL) We also gave the government the right to govern us with certain exceptions spelled out in the Constitution, how is that working out? They breached it so what are we going to do?
it is no different than any other government payments to individuals. 'Paid into...' the general fund like everything else. How long have you paid into food stamps? or Planned Parenthood?
it is no different than any other government payments to individuals. 'Paid into...' the general fund like everything else. How long have you paid into food stamps? or Planned Parenthood?
Nonsense. It was a Ponzi scheme from day one.
Something has happened. The DOW Industrial futures went from -226 an hour ago to +31 as of this posting.
Let me guess, GOP caved.
Something has happened...
Republicans caved.
Okie Dokie. I thought I remembered you correctly. You're one of the a-holes who thinks people who payed into the SS system and are expecting to get paid back are welfare recipients.
lol. very simplistic. you pay taxes expecting to get it back?
Of course, had you invested no return—or even retention of principal—would have been guaranteed either.
The fact is that the guv didn't invest for you and we don't have the money to pay what people are expecting back—particularly now that we're living so much longer.
So cuts have to come somewhere. The obvious, unless we just scrap it altogether, include lower increases, later eligibility, and means testing.
What do you propose?
"Can you believe the stupidity of proposing a cut in social security?? Talk about stupid, Cut welfare!! cut foreign aid. Cut foreign military bases!! Not the social security which we paid for!!"
This is why nothing will get cut. Everyone wants to cut everyone elses spending, but not "their" spending.
"That is theft!! a felony!!"
So you're actually a comedian. That's good to have an extra skill. You'll need that extra income after they cut your social security that you think you paid for.
My plan would be to increase the retirement age by one year every other year until the age is more in line with the actuarial expectation. I'm fine with putting in more years. And for the love of Pete *don't means test it!!*
Of course, had you invested no returnor even retention of principalwould have been guaranteed either.
True, there are no guarantees, but it's a fact that you can pick any ten-year period in history and you will see the stock market beat inflation. And that includes any decade you want to choose that includes the Great Depression.
So, SS = "Welfare." Check.
Mitch McConnell is being politically suicidal.
Social Security is the Third Rail of American politics. If he wants the GOP to keep being in the minority, cut beneficiaries' monthly checks.
Its a political loser. The Democrats have the whip hand here.
"So, SS = Welfare. Check."
It's not Earned Income. It's somebody elses earned income.
You can call it what you want, but make sure you tell the guy that made the money that he didn't really earn that.
Folks don't get it. It's all going to get cut. It doesn't matter whether it's Welfare or not. The check WILL get smaller, and it might get zeroed out.
Nobody knows. We've got incompetents at the helm We may hit an iceberg, we may run aground, we may crack up on the rocks. We know it won't be smooth sailing.
"It was a Ponzi scheme from day one."
Nothing wrong with a ponzi scheem as long as you get in early!!!
At 75 the money won't run out until we are dead!!!!
Sorry, but you are full of it. I've seen you somebitches enough on FR to know you. I am finished trying to explain it to you.
I hope to God you have to work every effing day until you die, as you are wishing upon me.
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