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Posted on 03/28/2014 9:32:13 PM PDT by tcrlaf
President Barack Obama may authorize the shipment of new air defense systems to rebel forces in Syrias ongoing civil war, a new Associated Press report states.
Citing an unnamed US official, the AP stated Obama is mulling over the idea of sending man-portable air-defense systems, also known as MANPADs, to Syrian opposition groups, a move that would mark a notable shift compared to the White Houses past statements.
As RT reported last month, the Obama administration has been interested in employing new ways to put pressure on Syrian President Bashar Assad and boost the opposing rebels, who have lost ground in the conflict over the last few months.
Officials then stated the US would send anti-tank rockets and humanitarian aid to the opposition, but noted MANPADs portable missile-launchers would not be part of the package, due to fears they could land in extremist hands and potentially be used to take down commercial airliners.
And I knew the Saudi's were angry that Obama didn't follow through with the attack on Syria, but MANPADS TO AL QUAEDA???
this is merely an excuse for al quaeda to use the MANPADS obama gave them in libya
It is all that higher education he has. He KNOWS what is the best thing to do. Giving MANPADS to anyone in the Middle East except Israel is the same as handing them over to terrorists. Our Glorious Leader strikes again.
These people are operating SLAUGHTER HOUSES for Christians. Obama is aiding war crimes. He needs to be arrested. HIM AND JOHN MCSHAME!!!!!
America demands Justice for the Fallen of Benghazi!
He already did, in Benghazi.
MANPADs to Al Qaeda, MRE's to Ukrainians?
MANPADs to Al Qaeda, MREs to Ukrainians?
Yep, that's our brilliant young president. I wonder how long it will take the despicable Little Lindsey Graham and the "gotta be in the news" Juan McCain to weigh in and say it's a wonderful idea.
He is Beelzebama, the Caliph of Corruption...he is the most vile person that has ever occupied the WH!
"I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life."
To the same bastards...oy vey
Hussein is bad news.
Thanks L
I am off to bed and the wife says she hates it when I scream in my sleep.
Obaba sending anti-aircraft missiles to the A.Q. etc terrorists....smooth move!
Send them a suitcase nuke too while you are at it?
Give you an excuse to declare Martial Law and yourself as Dictator For Life if they are used for another 9/11 here.
There is dumb.
There is stupid.
And beyond that, there is Obaba.
and beyond that there is me screaming in my sleep
but at least i can blame you for just this one
So war is ok for the US and not Russia
He is a tard, never been a real president always trying to up one the real leaders in the world. Also, his vice Biden the "dud" and those other chearleaders that never had a day in the game. Mclame needs to go home and do a hand stand on the toilet and cut from right to left. It is amazing to see thisw country out of control with these ass clowns.
wait...so Zero wants to send rocket launchers to Syrian rebels, but he's not going to get his way..while on the other coast, we got a Dem being busted for trying to traffic in, yes, folks, rocket launchers. Not saying anything is fishy but you just can't make this stuff up.
Barry >> Pelosi >> Leland Yee
Was Yee given orders to sell those launchers?
Never underestimate the ability of an idiot to double down on his moronicity.
Obama and this hated, EXEMPT Congress wanted to
give MANPADs to al Qaeda before. But they only got the
video of the Ambassador gang-raped.
So, they want to do it again, now.
WHAT DAMN SIDE IS THE pOTUS and the hated EXEMPT Congress on?
Not America's.
Exactly! And 'rebels' is a nice word for diabolical, murdering muslims!
During the Vietnam War, Joan Baez had her tax money exempt from the military, since she objected to the war. Can we have our tax money exempt from going to muslims?
"Obama considers sending anti-aircraft weapons to Syrian opposition"
Just Obama following orders from the Saudis!
Didn't they already supply enough from the covert gun-running chain in Benghazi?
Odd, that this happens the day after he meets his master (Saudi King).
Really brilliant.
What happened was the King made him an offer he couldn't refuse.
That means that he has already did it.
And every other son of a bitch that voted for him. And worship the ground that he pisses on.
A good number of those who call themselves Christians voted for the son o a bitch that occupies the White House, twice, Condor. The blood of the slaughtered Christians is also on the head of every Obama voter. Because they support the slaughter of the Christians over there.
There is dumb.
If it was done out of stupidity, I would not be so furious. But this is being done out of sheer evil and intended to change the balance of power in the world. The Soros Administration is using many ways to destroy Western civilization, especially the USA.
How is this stuff not far worse than Iran-Contra? I think comparison should be made by someone with some authority who can stick to their guns. I know it's just magical thinking...like anything will happen other than lawlessness, corruption and empowering Islam.
You are correct. Nothing will be done.
So glad I have my religious faith to sustain me.
Stupid is as stupid does. Life is like a box of chocolates, with an occasional cat turd disguised as a candy kiss.
Actually I think that was the intent, but it went FUBAR.
The 30,000 MANPADS were in Libya and the whole Benghazi set up was to get them to Syria...
Some local terrorist entity did not want that to happen...
He's going to send "manpads". I guess Boner doesn't want to give up his "kneepads".
I have to admit there are a few airplanes I wouldn't be upset about being "what you said".
Most Western sources are putting the current percentage of rebel fighters who are members of al-Qaeda, al-Qaeda splinter groups or groups who share al-Qaeda's ideology at about 75%.
The weapons the CIA already funneled to the supposedly secular rebels have been used by ISIS in Fallujah, Iraq to attack US made armored vehicles operated by the Iraqi army.
Yessir, Obama got the riot act from our Saudi masters. They want something now or.........................maybe like the last time.
Don't we love arming terrorists?
To the liver eaters.
That filthy koranimal is no king, you filthy sympathizer.
Those of you who dwell in the constant darkness of ignorance can never be saved by the light of truth
And this will not make "news" and the left will never admit that hussein is building up al quaeda.
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The falling Australian dollar and lower interest rates may be having a weak effect on local retail sales, which recorded their first positive growth for three months in May, according to Australian Bureau of Statistics figures out today.
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The largest contributor to the rise in May 2013 was other retailing (0.8 percent), which takes in items such as recreational goods, pharmaceuticals and books. Next was food retailing (up 0.2 percent), then department stores (up 0.8 percent) and clothing, footwear and personal accessory retailing (up 0.4 percent).
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I skate to where the puck is going to be, not where it has been -Wayne Gretzky
That Guild Wars 2 login screen knocked up my wife. Must be the second coming!
None. While some of the gone games were pretty fun there are reasons those games are all gone.
I rather see a new thinking game being made instead, and something not using a dumbed down version of D&Ds basic mechanics or FPS mechanics. Pen and paper RPGs have had many great system, I could see something based on "Shadowrun", and not just the world but the brilliant classless system without hitpoints.
I have found memories about some of those games but digging up them would just destroy those memories.
I am surprised about Turbines decision, and personally really think they should have made AC3 instead with the best from the first 2 games, modern graphics and some new fun stuff as well.
That game could translate so well into an MMO or simply more epic singleplayer.
Play for fun. Play to win. Play for perfection. Play with friends. Play in another world. Why do you play?
Playing: War Thunder, World of Warcraft, and Grim Dawn
Waiting on:Everquest Next and The Black Desert
well if never being "alive" counts as dead I want
Charr the Grim Fate
Dragon Empires
Dragon Empires was atleast in a beta state before Codemasters killed it, but that game looked cool.
Charr was just some nice vapor with a good backstory. Hell as far as I know I am the only person to remember it hehe.
the missing link in a chain of destruction.
All spelling and typographical errors are based soely on the fact that i just dont care. If you must point out my lack of atention to detail, please do it with a smile.
Ultima Online from before it got turned into the abomination it became with AoS, and which has little to do with original UO.
UO 1999 was the peak.
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Ultima Online from before it got turned into the abomination it became with AoS, and which has little to do with original UO. UO 1999 was the peak.
was a sad day to see UO die, and turn in to the steaming pile of EQ waste product it is today.
the missing link in a chain of destruction.
All spelling and typographical errors are based soely on the fact that i just dont care. If you must point out my lack of atention to detail, please do it with a smile.
Well, according to Massively Turbine is bringing back AC2 - Asheron's Call 2
So at least 1 ghost returning to life. Other than that I want to see SWG - Pre CU, most of all.
edit: Problem is many of the older games that still linger are pale shadows of what was. EQ1 today is nothing remotely like it was through 2006 or so.
"EVE is likely the best MMORPG that you've never really understood or played" - Kyleran
The origional SWG before it got broke..
Oh please. You're getting the SWG vets started again. I swear we'll never stop hearing about this game until the end of time.
-Azure Prower
If there's only one to pick, then Auto Assault. If there are a few more slots, then CoH as well, after it Tabula Rasa.
Hmm... seems there's a pattern, right, NCsoft?
SWTOR = best advertisement for SWG 2.0
Secrets of Dragon?s Spine Trailer.. !
Best MMOs ever played: Ultima, EvE, SW Galaxies, Age of Conan, The Secret World
Originally posted by Tholdornas
None from that list; I´d like The Chronicles of Spellborn to return from the dead!
I for one...have to agree...I did enjoy that game the short time i got to enjoy it.
MMO's are the ark of the gaming world. Let it take us in new directions.
I felt kinda sad that with all MMO's and MMORPG's we have today the first thing that popped in my mind was SWG with only reading the topic's tittle.
But let me make it clear: I don't want the bugs of SWG, I don't want any issue we had back then, I want it back with next gen graphics, put in more story for those who need a leash, make sure that it's the complete fixed package SWG Pre-Cu incl. JTL, a reworked version of Rage of the Wookiees where it get's it's world feel back like the other planets. The 32 professions. Let rangers be able to tame creature's but I don't mind having beastmaster aswell, they both go about making/taming creature's in different way's.
SWG the game the masses told didn't feel like Star Wars is still the only game to me that actually felt Star Wars because it wasn't some pre-written story I had to follow, it was my story in the SWG Universe. No MMORPG has giving me that feeling back, even though SWG wasn't my first MMORPG experiance and I have played many after. Still none has come close to what SWG offered as in the things I desire from a MMORPG experiance.
i want a Next gen SWG there was a game that had so much to do and had things to achive in it that actualy got you a sence of perpos i remember when there was like 4 jedi's on the server and when one busted out his lightsaber on some bounty hunters it was like OMFGGGG no game will ever give me that feeling again. fuck achivements fuck balenceing and only having 8 classes i was to make my own class SWG had everything that mmo's are missing today Crafting that matters (exeption is eve) awsome world pvp with optional factions and space pvp A player bounty system an awsome class that could only be achived thru hard work and if you died you 're charicter was deleted, and guilds actualy matterd people actualy knew the people in there guilds and cared about more then just who had the best items.


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Economists say weaker than expected sales sign of slowing economy.
Weaker-than-expected retail sales data, coupled with last week's unexpectedly poor unemployment number, have provided more evidence that New Zealand's economic growth probably slowed in the September quarter, say economists.
Retail sales - a pointer for gross domestic product (GDP) - fell in value by 0.8 per cent in the September quarter compared with the June quarter, and by 0.4 per cent in volume terms, Statistics New Zealand said.
The data, which follows on from news that unemployment hit 7.3 per cent in the September quarter, provided more fodder for those who argue that the Reserve Bank's next move should be a rate cut, rather than a rate rise.
The perceived change in the growth outlook helped shave 40 basis points off the value of the New Zealand dollar from US82c to US81.6c.
Westpac economists said the data provided more confirmation that the economy slowed in the September quarter after showing stronger-than-expected growth in the first half.
"Indeed, at this point we can probably consider the third quarter a write-off," they said. "It's clear that quarterly GDP growth will be weak, quite possibly negative - with the question now being whether this is the start of a new trend," they said.
The retail data ran counter to electronic card transaction data, which have shown modest gains in recent months and which increased by 0.4 per cent in September.
Economists had expected a modest improvement in GDP growth over the September quarter but yesterday's release sent them scurrying to revise their forecasts down to a flat or slightly negative outcome.
"The data suggests that the economy, broadly, was not doing as well as people had generally thought," Deutsche Bank chief economist Darren Gibbs said.
"It ties in with the employment data, which suggests that GDP will be weak, with a chance of a contraction in the September quarter," he said.
While the retail data did not tally with electronic card data, it appeared to back the picture provided by the BNZ-Business NZ performance of manufacturing index, which showed manufacturing activity shrank for the fourth month in a row in September.
Yesterday's retail data, with last week's jobs number, will be of added concern to the Reserve Bank, which said in October that it expected inflation to head back towards the middle of the target 1 to 3 per cent and that an official cash rate of 2.5 per cent "remained appropriate".
"For them the labour data last week will be more disturbing than this retail number because it will change their view as to how much slack there is in the economy," Deutsche Bank's Gibbs said.
He said it offered scope for the Reserve Bank to delay rate increases further and increased the potential for the bank to consider rate cuts.
"There is not going to be a tightening in the next 12 months and I would like to see the Reserve Bank cut rates and to basically get cheaper credit out to business," he said.
Statistics New Zealand said the fall in retail sales was led by three of the largest retail industries, with less money being spent in supermarket and grocery stores (down 1.6 per cent), motor-vehicle and parts retailers (down 1.8 per cent) and fuel retailing (down 1.9 per cent).
Retail sales
* Down 0.8 per cent by value in the September quarter.
* Supermarket and grocery stores down 1.6 per cent.
* Motor-vehicle and parts retailers down 1.8 per cent.
* Fuel retailing down 1.9 per cent.


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Visit Superman Square in Metropolis to have your picture taken with the 15-foot-tall statue of the Man of Steel. A statue of Lois Lane is located nearby. Across the street is the Super Museum, showcasing rare Superman memorabilia and selling superhero souvenirs.
The Super Museum houses the mythical caped hero from the big green planet. The museum is filled with a $2.5 billion collection spanning 60 years, honoring the most famous hero of all time.
An amazing tribute to America's most famous Hollywood icons, features life-size figures, wardrobes, costumes, movie props, posters, dolls, statues and celebrity collectibles from around the world. Americana Hollywood is a museum dedicated to Hollywood of yesterday and today. Located 2 blocks from Harrah's Casino you will find collections from Elvis Presley, Marilyn Monroe, James Dean, Pamela Anderson and Angelina Jolie, just to name a few. Come stroll through the outdoor statues and have your picture taken with the Blues Brothers or on the set of a Western ghost town. There is so much to see and do at this museum!
Located at Lincoln Memorial Park, visitors can "Walk Where Lincoln Walked" by following the presidents footsteps from Jonesboro Square to the park.
Site of one of the historic Lincoln-Douglas Debates, this park features picnic shelters, walking paths and hiking trails.
State park and historic site. October's big Fort Massac Encampment and several other living history event weekends scheduled throughout the year bring the past to life for American history buffs. The visitor center offers exhibits, information & a short film.
Built in 1870 by Major Elijah P Curtis after the Civil War. The woodwork and other features of the home are unusual.
Step back to Civil War days when "pig iron" was smelted at this, the first coal-fired iron furnace in Illinois, now on the National Register of Historic Places. Restored structure is in a beautiful park with fishing, hiking, and picnicking available.
Presbyterian church in continuous operation since 1850 and the site of a winter encampment during the Trail of Tears. Only site certified by state of Illinois and Cherokee Nation.
General museum featuring local history, Kirkpatrick Pottery, Native American artifacts, pioneer items and other unique collections.
The library was named for Civil War veteran Robert B. Stinson, who left his estate for the establishment of a library. The building was the work of Walter B. Griffin, who designed it in a Frank Lloyd Wright style.
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speaking of which, I can't imagine it looking any better than it does now. This is gonna be great.
speaking of which, I can't imagine it looking any better than it does now. This is gonna be great.
Just noticed this now..Guess i dont spend much time in announcements..But those changes sound great! cant wait to see them active
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WoW, MangaShare will get way better in communications and in the looks.
I am looking forward for a new logo of this website since there are really talented artists in MangaShare.
I read only half of that post.... but it sounds like the toolbar.
Sorry for the lack of progress on this and my vanishing act over the last couple months. I've really been slammed down with work on my new website (which I plan to invite all mangashare members to when it launches since I'm sure a lot of you guys play online games and the site's really great ).
I'm aiming for work on the new MS site to resume in full force after we're back from Blizzcon next week. Exciting times are ahead, just a little bit later than intended.
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The Reds bagged maximum points against the Chiefs thanks to an impressive 31-23 Super Rugby win in Hamilton on Saturday.
The Reds bagged maximum points against the Chiefs thanks to an impressive 31-23 Super Rugby win in Hamilton on Saturday.
It was the Queenslanders fourth straight victory over their trans-Tasman rivals, and puts them on 31 points in the tournament wildcard places – eight ahead of the fifth-placed Hurricanes.
A day after being left out of Australia's training squad for the British and Irish Lions tour Down Under, Cooper's masterclass performance inspired the Reds to a resounding victory.
Reds winger Rod Davies grabbed a double in his first starting opportunity of 2013 while number eight Jake Schatz and Cooper, who also added 11 points with the boot, crossed for five-pointers.
Not far behind Cooper in the influence stakes was scrum-half Will Genia, who pulled the strings brilliantly behind a dominant Reds pack as the visitors inflicted just the second home loss on the Chiefs in 14 months.
The Reds started the match with a roar and a hiss, with lock James Horwill unlucky not to have scored early on after being held up over the line. Davies then dropped the ball with the tryline begging, but made amends after intercepting an Aaron Cruden pass and raced in for the opening try under the sticks.
Chiefs full-back Gareth Anscombe put his team on the scoreboard with a penalty shot before setting up the hosts' first try when he put centre Bundee Aki over the line.
Anscombe's conversion took the Chiefs out to a 10-7 lead, but once the Reds replied through number eight Schatz's converted try from a driving maul – they never looked back.
That score took the Reds into a deserved four-point (10-14) lead at half-time.
The Chiefs closed the gap to a single point early in the second half thanks to another Anscombe penalty, but that would be the closest the hosts would come to staying in touch with the Queenslanders.
The Reds then scored two quickfire tries that effectively left the Chiefs with a mountain to climb after Cooper dummied his way past Cruden for a solo score before Genia fired a bullet pass to Davies who strolled over untouched out wide.
Trailing 13-28, the Chiefs were in trouble. But the momentum swung in favour of the hosts when replacement Patrick Osborne was brought off the bench and made an instant impact.
Anscombe added another penalty as the Chiefs began to claw their way back and when Reds centre Anthony Faingaa was sin-binned for a ruck infringement, Osborne immediately crossed to slice the gap to eight points.
But the Chiefs were unable to get any closer thanks to some gutsy defence from the visitors. Cooper had the chance to put the result beyond doubt, however missed two penalties in the last 10 minutes of an absorbing encounter.
The scorers:
For Chiefs:
Tries: Aki, Osborne
Cons: Anscombe 2
Pens: Anscombe 3
For Reds:
Tries: Davies 2, Schatz, Cooper.
Cons: Cooper 4
Pens: Cooper 2
Chiefs: 15 Gareth Anscombe, 14 Tim Nanai Williams, 13 Richard Kahui, 12 Bundee Aki, 11 Asaeli Tikoirotuma, 10 Aaron Cruden, 9 August Pulu, 8 Liam Messam (c), 7 Sam Cane, 6 Tanerau Latimer, 5 Brodie Retallick, 4 Michael Fitzgerald, 3 Ben Tameifuna, 2 Hika Elliot, 1 Toby Smith.
Replacements: 16 Rhys Marshall, 17 Michael Kainga, 18 Nick Crosswell, 19 Fritz Lee, 20 Brendon Leonard, 21 Andrew Horrell, 22 Patrick Osborne.
Reds: 15 Jono Lance, 14 Dom Shipperley, 13 Anthony Faingaa, 12 Ben Tapuai, 11 Rod Davies, 10 Quade Cooper, 9 Will Genia, 8 Jake Schatz, 7 Liam Gill, 6 Eddie Quirk, 5 James Horwill (c), 4 Rob Simmons, 3 James Slipper, 2 James Hanson, 1 Greg Holmes.
Replacements: 16 Albert Anae, 17 Ben Daley, 18 Ed O'Donoghue, 19 Jarrad Butler, 20 Ben Lucas, 21 Chris Feauai-Sautia, 22 Aidan Toua.
Referee: Steve Walsh (Australia)


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The off-highway vehicle can be a source of great fun and recreation for many Utah residents, but the OHV can also be a problem when users fail to stay on the trail.
US Forest Service employees have become creative in dealing with OHV problems. They are trying to be pro-active and stop problems and concerns before they start.
They are working on specific areas of the forest to control and direct OHV travel. They have made a series of trails, beginner and advanced adjacent to campgrounds in the Lake area near Cleveland Reservoir. From there, work will move to the areas surrounding Miller's Flat.
Forest service personnel keep maps and information in their vehicles to hand out to campers and those using ATVs in the area.
Recently forest service personnel, Ann King, Rosann Fillmore, Bill Broadbear and the regional supervisor Pam Brown met on the forest for a tour. Members of the press and Wade Allinson from the Sage Riders motorcycle club also attended. Their intent is to get information out to the riding public on the trails that are available and the work that is being done to the trail system as a whole. The forest service is always looking for volunteer groups that are willing to do projects on the forest. They said they have had much volunteer service from the Emery and Carbon county sides of the mountain and less volunteers from the Sanpete area. They believe that education is the key. Volunteers are key to the projects on the forest. These people who volunteer don't like the abuse any better than forest service personnel. They want people to stay on the trails systems. The lands are in better shape now because of the trails.
Brown said, "We want to teach people how to use the forest responsibly. Public lands are a gift and a responsibility. We want to keep our forest in a productive state so our children and grandchildren can enjoy the forest as we have. We want to keep the forest healthy for years to come. We have challenges, but we hope to build on the success we have had in the past. We hear all the time from people that we want to keep people out, but that isn't true. We have worked hard to provide a good system of trails."
Allinson agreed with that saying the Manti-LaSal has one of the best ATV trail systems in the state. He mentioned Clark Collins who rides all over and Collins said we have a wonderful system here. There is plenty of opportunity here to recreate.
King said our area is one of the most heavily used in the state. "The use we get is just phenomenal."
The forest service expressed their appreciation to the volunteer groups, mostly ATV and motorcycle clubs that have helped maintain trails.
The Lake area last year saw 4,000 riders using the system. The trails are designed for 50 inches or less. Many of the trails in the Lake area were designed with the larger ATVs in mind. The area receives a lot of use from the Wasatch Front area and many of those users aren't involved with giving back to the area. A lot of the Salt Lake clubs use the 12 Mile Canyon area on the Sanpete side. Approximately 60 percent of the use in the Lake area is from the Wasatch Front and Provo area.
Brown said a balance needs to be maintained for those who seek the forest for quiet and solitude and those who wish to recreate with ATVs. There are a variety of uses that need to be managed for in the local area. "It is a challenge to provide for the many different interests and sometimes there is conflict. These areas up here are critical watershed for the communities in the valley. They depend on this water," said Brown.
A great effort has been put forth to keep people out of the wetlands. Wetlands are crucial to the health of the forest. Wildlife depends on wet lands. Large fallen trees have been placed to block entrances to wetlands called log and blocks. These types of barriers have met with more success than fenced areas. Trails have been created around the wetlands where possible. Wetlands around Miller's Flat have sustained a lot of damage.
A series of learner loops have been constructed for children to learn to ride. Parents are instructed to always make sure these young riders wear helmets. It is the law.
It's a common practice for people to camp and then send their children out to ride. These learner loops give children a place to ride safely.
The trails are fun and present a challenge.
The Seely area is now being studied for future trail developments surrounding camping areas. Projects on the forest will include timber harvest, dispersed camping site and trail development and habitat improvements. Work will be done to design a trail system. There are some well used worn out areas that will be allowed to rest and revegetate.
ATV users aren't the only ones who abuse the trails. Many full-sized 4-wheel drive vehicles will mud bog in wetlands and destroy them. Penalties are becoming stiffer for those who abuse. They will have to pay a federal fine and go to federal court. They will be responsible for restitution for whatever they tear up.
The forest service personnel are also continuing education programs for the sixth grade classrooms in the area. They will help the students learn it's not OK to just ride wherever they please.
A new map is also on its way which will have names of trails and place names instead of just forest road numbers like the current motor vehicle use map.
In the Lake area 98 percent of the trails are signed which is helpful to users, but it is still the users responsibility to know if the trail they are using is an open forest service trail and not a user created trail. Violators will be ticketed if they are off trail. The new map will be out the middle of November.
Some user created trails just don't make sense and are out of place. Some out of compliance riders will just head straight up a hill and scar the hillside.
Another project in the works is defining dispersed campsites with roads that are farther than 150 feet off the main road. These roads to dispersed campsites have not been on the forest service system and they need to be defined because people who use them are actually in violation of the 150 foot rule. The forest service will determine if the sites are legitimate and usable spurs so people will be legal.
On the Manti there are 950 miles of trail. This includes 37 miles of single-track, 180 miles of ATV trails and non-motorized trails. There are about 500 miles of user created motorized trails. The forest service is able to maintain twice as many miles of trail because of the huge volunteer efforts by the local off-road clubs. During 2009, 200 miles of user created trails have been closed.
Brown encourages all riders to use the forest and stay on the trails, obey the rules and encourage others to do the same.
Healthy forests can be enjoyed by everyone.


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My Socal brethren – this Thursday in San Diego, our good friends over at Dubfrequency will be bringing down BetatraXx to deliver a monster set fully equiped with his live drummer Niq G. If you didn't catch them at Westbeach Music Festival or the HARD Pre-Party, here is your chance. Also taking to the stage will be SD natives Bubble Gum Sci-Fi, Ladlesmith, Dr. Schlongo and myself.
The event is FREE with RSVP
SD, this one you don't want to miss.
*And of course I have some goodies for you to get you amped about the event.
• BetatraXx – Panzer (Demo)
A demo of the first track off BetatraXx's new EP, set for release in mid February
*Expect big things from BetatraXx in the future with an EP that is set to be released on Metamimetic Records


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We had a bit of news come out of Starkville today. Coach Dan Mullen said he plans on using more than one quarterback for the Sept. 5 opener against Jackson State. "We'll play at least two in the first game. If we need to play more, we'll play more," he said. OK, not really news, and you figure – and hope – there will be garbage time aplenty against JSU. So we ought to at least see Tyson Lee, Chris Relf and Tyler Russell.
As for other positions, Mullen said competition for starting jobs is still wide open. "Everybody says 'ones'; there are no ones to me. Our three-deep who will play in a game, we should know that by Sunday-ish. Nah, probably Wednesday of next week I would guess. Maybe."
In the secondary, for instance, Mullen said, "I haven't looked down and said, 'OK, this is how we're going to be.' We're still looking at guys who can play, you know? We're not going to play one guy an entire game at any position; we're going to be rotating guys."
In other words, David Murray is going to have a heck of a time keeping his participation chart updated. By the way, I owe Murray (of Dawgs' Bite) much thanks for sending me the transcript of Mullen's media session this evening. I was unable to make it to Starkville.
"The first game we might try to play more guys than we might down the road and see," Mullen said. "I mean, it's a lot different when you go in the stadium in front of 55,000 than when you're practicing in front of me. So we'll see how they respond to that."
On the injury front, starting center J.C. Brignone was out with a sprained ankle. He should return to practice Monday.
By the way, no media availability tomorrow, so we'll be checking back in on the Bulldogs on Friday. Plenty of MSU stories coming in the Daily Journal this week, though, so stay tuned.


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What is Next for North Korea?
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With the death of the North Korea's leader Kim Jong-il known as the 'Dear Leader' and the world's attention now turned to his youngest son Kim Jong Eun, the "Great Successor", very interesting and intense times lie ahead for North Korea.
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Dan Hamhuis is on a Pretty Team-Friendly Contract
Dimitri Filipovic
July 30 2013 10:53AM
"This right here, kids.. this is value."
Image via Canucks.com.
Every summer come July 1st, we see team's break the bank to sign players to lucrative contracts that they'll likely wind up regretting down the road. Yet they still do it, for some reason, and will continue to do so for years to come. Without conducting any sort of formal study, I'd venture to guess that the largest percentage of mistakes made by most GMs come on that day, when they find themselves getting caught up in the "frenzy", spending just for the sake of spending.
That has the agents of even relatively competent defensemen licking their lips, I'd bet. At every marquee NHL event - whether it be the trade deadline, or draft day, or July 1st - it seems like defensemen are a hot commodity. Every single team is looking for help at that position, and the demand far exceeds the supply. Which is why we see contracts such as Mark Streit for 4 year, $21 million or Dennis Wideman for 5 year, $26.25 million happen. Well, either that, or because Paul Holmgren and Jay Feaster are incredibly incompetent.
Recently, we've also seen a trend of teams placing a premium on locking up their young defensemen long-term, paying big bucks mostly based off of potential. As every day passes, and every new contract gets signed, I think to myself just how awesome the one Dan Hamhuis signed (6 years, $27 milliion) with the Canucks back on July 1st, 2010 is.
Read on past the jump for more on just how much value Hamhuis' contract provides.
This is a Canucks blog, so I'm sure you're all well aware of Hamhuis' exploits on the ice. He's not flashy, and likely won't be making too many highlight reels. But he's silky smooth, and he seems to make the right play every single time; when he makes a mistake, it sticks out like a sore thumb because of how rare an occurence it is. He logs heavy minutes, drives play in the right direction, and is as consistent as it gets. His most valuable skill in my opinion though is his rare ability to make the guys he plays with better. If you don't believe me, just ask Kevin Bieksa.
Last offseason, I took a look at the top defensive pairings in the NHL, and sure enough, Vancouver's top pairing of Hamhuis and Bieksa were in my top 5. With the arrival of Jason Garrison this season, that pairing was split up and Hamhuis was put next to Garrison (with Bieksa alternating between Andrew Alberts and Alex Edler for most of the season). Now, injuries certainly played a role, but the fact of the matter is that Bieksa completely cratered, while Hamhuis put together another season of not only playing an immensely high level of hockey himself, but also one where his partner was rock solid. Coincidence? I don't believe in those.
As a quick aside, I've recently come across a good litmus test for finding out how invested in the game a hockey fan really is: tell them that you think Team Canada should bring Dan Hamhuis to Sochi next year, and see how they react. Chances are if you play this game with someone from Vancouver, or someone that follows hockey very closely, they'll be onboard. Otherwise, you'll probably get some resistance; after all, Hamhuis doesn't do end-to-end rushes like a PK Subban, or shoot pucks through the net like a Shea Weber. Yet the fact still remains that I can't name more than 12-15 defensemen that I'd rather have on my team for next season.
Hamhuis has three years left on his deal, with a cap hit of $4.5 million. As a frame of reference, that cap hit makes him the 4th (!!) highest paid defenseman on the Vancouver Canucks roster. I don't know about you, but that kind of blows my mind. He's easily the team's most valuable defenseman, and has been since he got here. It's impossible not to wonder how differently the 2011 Stanley Cup Final would have played out were he able to play more than 8 minutes and 9 seconds that he did in that series.
But let's not spend any more time dwelling on that. Instead, I've got something uplifting for you; below is a screenshot of Dan Hamhuis' top 20 contract comparables, provided by CapGeek:
That list has some pretty good defensemen in their own right, but realistically, how many of them are you taking over Dan Hamhuis? Ryan McDonagh? That's about it, for me. At the top I referenced team's dishing out money for their young defensemen mostly based off of potential. That includes Nashville who gave Roman Josi (7 years, $28 million), the Kings and Slava Voynov (6 years, $25 million), and the Jets with Zach Bogosian (7 years, $36 million). Remember when the Buffalo Sabres gave Tyler Myers $38.5 million over 7 years?
When comparing those deals with the one Hamhuis signed, keep in mind that every single one of those aforementioned defensemen had RFA years left (which leave them with less leverage, and in theory, a cheaper price tag. Daniel Wagner had a good post on this today).
Dan Hamhuis was on the open market, and was heavily sought after. He was also a polished player who was about to sign a contract that would take him through the meat of his prime. Remember, both the Penguins and the Flyers acquired his rights before July 1st in an attempt to negotiate with him. Thankfully for the Canucks, Hamhuis decided that he wanted to return home, and in doing so provided the team with one of the best values in the entire league. If you think the team is in a salary cap bind now, imagine where they'd be if Hamhuis was making what a player of his skillset should be.
"AV has coached these guys their entire careers, for you to believe a different approach can't improve players is delusional."
A different approach can just as easily make a player worse.
I completely agree (full disclosure I am a Canucks fan). Not many people praise the "defensive defenseman" these days, but Hamhuis is a great example. He is not only that but he moves the puck well out of his own end and he rarely turns it over. I felt terrible for him in the 2012 playoff vs. LA when he fell and turned the puck over to Lewis on the series ending goal. I was crushed for a guy who is usually so solid. He is a solid PK'er and doesn't take many penalties. I am a Christian and I also love that he stands up for his faith.
Thanks for the post, Lynsey
Hamhuis should be Captain.
Chicago and Boston both blow van's out of the water and i would also say NYR's is also better
While I agree that in a vacuum Dan Hamhuis is a bargain, the problem with the Canucks cap structure is that the 10/50/31 core are all being paid for their UFA years.
It's why Boyd Gordon, for example, was impossible to sign even though he is a good fit for this team.
Scan the projected roster for 2013-2014 and look for players who are on their ELCs or second/third contracts during their RFA years.
Even a guy like Corrado is hardly a lock to make the team and would likely play a limited role until injuries arise.
The last NHL regular drafted and developed by the Canucks is 2005 2nd rounder Mason Raymond who is now a UFA.
Very few players on ELCs & second contracts equals limited surplus value.
I tried finding a regular on the Canucks who was drafted after 2005, but you're right, the last one was Raymond. We now have to go back to 2004 to find one.
That is appaulingly bad as an organization. The blame for that falls squarely on Burke and Gillis. That's just really awful.
Drafting has been terrible, the only thing that has saved the Nucks is signing FAs like Tanev and Edler. Hammy is a bargain and frankly I believe the Canucks have the best 1-6 D-corps in the league. They are only missing that one big player that takes over games ala Weber or Pronger. I think Edler can step into that type of role under Torts. The biggest improvement for the Nucks this year will be having 3 solid pairings that have complimentary skills. Bieksa/Hammy...Edler/Tanev....Garrison/Corrado. Each pairing has an Offensively skilled guy with a defensively responsible puck moving guy. Having defined roles and constant partners hopefully will end miscommunications and reckless Play. Everyone talks about top forward pairings and their production, but the Nucks need chemistry with their D pairings. That will help out the goaltending as mich as anything.
Part of that is the unfortunate passing of Luc Bourdon (RIP).
Part of that is giving up on Michael Grabner.
Part of that is giving up Cody Hodgson for Zack Kassian.
I have a hard time blaming Burke & Nonis considering they found Bieksa, Kesler, Schneider, Edler, Hansen, Bourdon (RIP), Raymond & Grabner without the benefit of high picks.
The majority of those guys played prominent roles on the 2011 SCF team along with top of the draft talents Sedin, Sedin & Luongo, two of which were acquired in shrewd trades by Burke & Nonis.
The reason the cap management looked so good in 2011 is because a lot of players were in their pre-UFA years (Bieksa, Edler, Schneider, Kesler, Raymond, Hansen).
The reason the cap management looks mediocre in the present is because the Canucks are too reliant on players in their prime earning years.
I'll give credit to Burke, but Nonis is increasingly seeming to be a fairly incompetent GM in my mind.
Not only based on his time in Vancouver, but also his short tenure as GM in Toronto. He has made a ton of questionable moves there, noteably given Tyler Bozak over 4 million dollars a year with term.
I mean, Bourdon and Hodgson cancel each other out in a comparison between Gillis and Nonis in my mind, as they were both pretty high picks.
That basically leaves Grabner for Nonis. Corrado looks like he's going to be in the win column for Gillis.
Honestly, think back to the Nonis years, do remember his depth solutions? Arguably much worse than Gillis. Chouinard? Ritchie? Bulis? Pyatt?
Nonis is just as, if not more, incompetent than Gillis as GM. The Burke/Nonis Era should be known solely as the Burke era.
Nonis' screwups in Toronto shouldn't tarnish the players he acquired in Vancouver.
It's a lot more than just Grabner. Schneider, Edler, Hansen & Raymond were also drafted while Nonis was GM.
And Bourdon (RIP) is a legitimate asterisk. Hodgson is not. Canucks management and medical staff are a large reason that relationship was strained, I'd argue.
Nonis' biggest legacy in Vancouver is trading for Luongo and drafting Schneider.
He fixed the goalie graveyard as well as anybody could while Gillis has done everything possible to screw it up.
Nonis may very well prove to be a poor GM in Toronto. But he had a hand in bringing virtually every core player on the 2011 team to Vancouver.
Burke & Nonis built the foundation of the 2011 team not Gillis.
Chicago and Boston both blow van's out of the water and i would also say NYR's is also better
Only players that make B's and Hawks D better is Chara and Kieth are top D men that shut down top lines and lets see what Torts and Sullivan can do with our D. In my post I mentioned that if Edler can step up and be the all around top D man and Torts can get the, to play together as a unit. Add Harrison's cannon to the top PP line and his Goals will be back to AllStar status. My whole contention is that AV mishandled the D which made them play as individuals not as a unit. I was hoping John Stevens would come in and do what he did for Drew Doughty, but Sullivan has a great track record also. This corps has room for improvement and will be the back bone of the team.
you're deluted if you think Vancouver is the top D in the nhl if they all have to hit career years, which clearly means they aren't top now. drew doughty was an elite prospect with a huge upside, how do you think you a coach was the one that created the star? or can convert edler into one... you do know that jack johnson was also a "student" of stevens...
I'm not giving Nonis credit for Kennan being a complete idiot.
Nor am I giving him full credit for the 2004 draft, Burke would've had a huge hand in that, Nonis being his understudy and all. Even if Burke wasn't physically at the draft, he would've been involved in targetting certain players all year long.
Bourdon is a legitimate asterisk, but if the core of the 2011 team is the Sedins, Kesler, Salo (way underrated in his time here), the only one you can say 100% that Nonis brought in of the core is Luongo. And really, it's a miracle the Canucks got Luongo in the first place. Bertuzzi? Seriously? If Gillis had set his bar as low as Kennan did Luongo would be playing for a different team next year, only at that point Luongo had a fairly high trade value relative to today.
Gillis did more for the 2011 team than Nonis ever did. He brought in Malhotra, Torres, Samuelsson, Hamhuis, Ehrhoff. I'm not arguing Gillis is amazing and the greatest ever, but Nonis is equal to Gillis in greatness, if not worse than him.
The only impact player Gillis brought in that was noteworthy was Ehrhoff.
And that was a phenomenal trade, mind you.
Any Canuck GM would have accepted Hamhuis' gift to the province of BC.
Was signing Samuelsson actually worth giving up Grabner? Could Grabner not have done the same on that team?
This isn't about Burke & Nonis being great GMs. I don't like what either has done in Toronto so far.
It's about giving credit where credit is due.
Gillis made one great trade for Ehrhoff, accepted Dan Hamhuis' gift and found good depth/role players.
All of that is meaningless if not for Burke & Nonis bringing the Sedins, Lou, Schneider, Bieksa, Edler, Salo, Burrows, Raymond & Hansen to Vancouver.
you're deluted if you think Vancouver is the top D in the nhl if they all have to hit career years, which clearly means they aren't top now. drew doughty was an elite prospect with a huge upside, how do you think you a coach was the one that created the star? or can convert edler into one... you do know that jack johnson was also a "student" of stevens...
You seem to believe that everything is black and white and either you're an elite prospect that peaks at 19 or you just trash them. boy of has been doin alright I would say and the rest of ten Kings D men aren't near the talent of Tanev Garrison or Bieksa. Obviously coaching doesnt matter to you. AV has coached these guys their entire careers, for you to believe a different approach can't improve players is delusional. Guess in your world coaches only matter in Junior hockey then you are either a player or a bust. Sad way to look at hockey in the offseason. All the other teams should lie down and let Boston and Chi play for the cup again.
not saying that at all. coaching doesn't turn a good player into a super star but can turn a good player into a better one. Edler suddenly turning a corner when he's 26, past his key developmental years, to turn into a super elite D-man when he couldn't even handle top pairing minutes is a huge stretch.
you clearly don't understand the development of players. junior players do either turn into players or busts, welcome to the world of prospects! more often than not, people bust out of the NHL, just the fact of life.


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Sean Sweeney did what many guys do when it comes to their health: put off a routine procedure until something is terribly wrong.
He was diagnosed with ulcerative colitis, an inflammatory bowel disease, and had lost 20 pounds by fall 2007. The searing pain finally drove him to Parker Adventist Hospital and a CAT scan revealed 16 holes in his colon. Sweeney was becoming septic and was seriously ill. He underwent emergency surgery to remove his colon.
"I'd thought mind over matter would beat this. I was taking a few pills a day, but it got rapidly out of control," he said.
To make matters worse – and much of the reason why he tried new diets, acupuncture and pills before seeing the doctor – the Highlands Ranch resident was transitioning into life as a new business owner, and he did not have insurance coverage for what would eventually add up to $50,000 in medical bills.
That's when the Parker Adventist Hospital Foundation, an extension of the nonprofit medical center, decided to step in. The foundation covered his bills and the 43-year-old retired U.S. Marine Corps captain is feeling better and living an active life. On Nov. 10, to mark the five-year anniversary of the life-saving surgery, he started a journey to repay the favor.
Sweeney jogged from the new Centura facility in Castle Rock to Heritage Elementary School in Highlands Ranch where he serves as a parent-volunteer and runs a Friday morning fitness program for 60-100 kids. He then ran from the school to Parker Adventist Hospital, completing a 31-mile journey to raise money for the foundation to pay the favor forward to another recipient who lacks health coverage.
To this day, the married father of three children still doesn't know who passed his name to the Parker Adventist Hospital Foundation, but says "whoever did it was an angel."
Sweeney, a co-owner in a company that produces multiplayer online games, says he wishes he could write a check to pay the $50,000 back, but will raise what he can over the next year through various events.
"Sean's passion for life and his desire to help others in need, serves as an inspiration to all of us," said Lisa Sandoval, executive director of the hospital foundation. "Our foundation exists to nurture the health and wellness of our community and it's incredible stories like Sean's that inspire us in our work each and every day."
Sweeney is also raising awareness about ulcerative colitis and offering his support to patients who are dealing with the uncomfortable symptoms.
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