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Firstly something about my MMO history. I've played MMO's since roughly 2000. I started with 2D isometric indy games like Ashen Empires, a distinctly sandbox game. I moved on into Everquest and then jumped into Final Fantasy 11. Once I finished in Final Fantasy 11 the great game hop began and has only rested for roughly a year or so in world of warcraft, a game I enjoyed for the challenge the vanilla raids gave me as a guild leader.
Since my first solid world of warcraft play through I have been jumping around from game to game, not resting long. I am currently subscribed to WoW, TSW, and also Eve Online. My Tera subscription just ran out - and I will be canceling my WoW and my TSW accounts shortly.
I am a sandbox gamer at heart. I want all of the hardcore elements that only the niche seem to want also. My hopes for Archeage were always going to be that of building a city, pvping with some adrenalin and fear of losing my stuff, the general favorites a sandbox gamer wants.
I like to think my opinion of games has evolved beyond "Ohh lol themepark garbage" which I have been guilty of before, so I will be writing this as openly as I possibly can, but it is opinion and not everything can be seen as fact because, well, it's all in Korean so I might be missing some key points!
Anyway onto the review, I shall target everything I can talk about in detail, with a summary at the end, enjoy and thank you for reading. If you want to watch some of my play through then http://www.twitch.tv/enerzeal/b/330122496 should take care of that nicely. This is my Live stream of an almost six hour play through. Thanks.
The graphical style is one that heavily reminds me of Lineage 2 and of Aion, which would make sense as jake song made Lineage 2 and Aion was made using an older version of the Cry Engine. At times the landscape can look a little bland, a little "wrong", as if something isn't turned on. I do play on ultra settings so I am getting the best out of it. The bad textures however are significantly overshadowed by sheer beauty that the world can muster. It is probably best described with me telling you about my mount I have. It's a reindeer looking thing. It is the single most beautiful looking mount I have laid eyes on in any game. It looks exactly as it should do, its fur is real almost, it's posture is perfect - the armor I can equip on it looks perfect for it. I can only imagine some people taking issue with the style of the games playable characters and same race NPCs. Some of them do look very Korean, one of the human races looks under aged, the male elf looks very delicate, and the female ferres looks frankly strange in my eyes, but as I said a moment ago it's purely down to taste, the graphics for them are still as beautiful as my fluffy reindeer mount.
as it stands I would say 10/10.
This game shines on it's animations. I have only taken issue with the ferres run right now as it seems a little odd, otherwise the game is alive. Going back to my lovely Reindeer, from his mouth you can see mist as it breaths. When it approaches a steep climb you can see it change animation as it digs in for a surer footing to climb with. When I back up on my mount it's head drops to the side and looks down and it prances backwards. My character will randomly perform idle animations that look stunning. There is an overload of emoticons as well, all perfect looking if a little asian in style, which isn't a problem in my mind. Attack animations are flawless, bows look brilliant as do weapon attacks and charges, magic casting and death animations all making the game more real than any to date.
If I give graphics a 10, then the animations can only be 10/10 as well.
Sounds and music.
Before the server came up I decided to click on the credits button, I say decided to click the credits button, what I actually did was click some Korean just to see what happened. When the music began playing that accompanies the scrolling Korean had a profound effect on me. I was moved. I could not explain why I was moved but it just triggered something in my chest, I had nothing to associate this music with yet, no memories or emotions, yet I felt a strange familiarity with it. I would say that the music of Archeage is most reminiscent of Final Fantasy.
Now the sounds and ambiance are also truly perfect. I moved close to a burning torch and listen to it as it roared, for as long as it took my fellow guildy to come on over and put the torch out as it was "day time and this doesn't need to be on!". When I drop from a high height I can hear the wind rustle past my ears. I can hear bushes move as I wade through them. It might seem like a fanboy ranting but again these sounds and the music cannot be faulted, the team at XL games seems to have gone above and beyond the call when it comes to immersion, as a result two hours of exploration doesn't feel like wasted game time, I'll talk more about that later.
Sounds and music easily take another 10/10.
Quest grind.
The quest grind doesn't really move from the normal system and is simple enough that without any knowledge of the Korean language I can figure my way through most quests, some more difficult than others but I've not skipped one yet and I would say I have completed roughly 100 or so quests. Although the model doesn't differ in any way from say WoW, what it does is take the same neat packaging of quest hubs that WoW has, which at least makes the going more streamlined. Couple up the immersion of the world and the scale and beauty, quest grinds are less mind numbing than they are peaceful. The over achievements you can gain by killing more than you need to really feel nice as well, you can choose after a point when you feel you've had enough and hand it in.
Now what I really think brings up the quest grind is the fact that grouping won't kill your exp. I played through to level 12 solo. By level 8 I had obviously missed something as I had begun to drop behind the levelling curve, quests were over leveled and I was finding it more difficult to continue, you can see from the stream I posted above I was sometimes three levels to low. Well when I played with my friend through the same area, by the time I moved into the third zone I was easily a level or in some cases two levels higher. This for me is vital as it means soloing is viable, but grouping is rewarded.
I would say 5/10 for the questing, it's not great but not bad, its "what we expect". I would then add on another point for a streamlined system and a good growth curve, and another two ontop for the grouping elements.
Quest grind gets an 8/10 for being a relaxed, group friendly experience.
Combat in Archeage is combat in most other MMO's. In fact I would say that it's identical to rift or WoW. Take an ability move within range and use. React and rotate as the situation requires it. It's reactions you can before based upon what affects you have already stacked makes for a slightly more tactical game. Especially considering that these share between those in your group. All I can say that is without an onslaught of flashy particle effects and over the top attacks what we have is a stylish approach to the traditional game with a nice overlay of increase tactical play. Fights are over quickly, they do not however take the easy approach adopted by say, WoW, where you can fight many at once, but a more reserved 1-2 at once dependant on build, which adds a whole new layer to the combat, your build dictates your tactics and how you respond to a monster. Alone however I would score combat based on it's traditional approach with a point or two extra because of the animations, tactical gameplay and for the fact that I personally enjoyed it.
So combat gets 8/10.
Skills are unique in the MMO world, most closely the system would relate to Rift, with more freedom. In Archeage we have a number of trees, I have counted thirteen of them. Each has it's own specific focal point, be it healing, buffing, archery etc, any of the main types. I can take three of these and equip whatever armor or weapon I choose and invest points into these trees as I see fit assuming I have hit the perquisite over all level. What this does is create a palette of options as to how I build up my character. Though there may be plenty of paladin types (healing, armor, combat), each would invest his or her points differently. What this creates is on the downside possible flavor of the month builds, but on the up side we have choice like we haven't had in years. If you haven't enjoyed a system like this before then this will be a true awakening for you.
Any skill system with this much freedom easily earns a 10/10 from me.
Now I haven't explored nearly as much as I could of done, although today me and a guildy decided to strike out and check out some new towns, ports, an arena, some locations from concept art - I feel I have seen enough to give an opinion on the world its self. First off, it's massive, it is truly massive. It has size like the older MMOs had. Around every corner is something new, something beautiful to look at. Trying to keep this section contain with rambling on would be difficult so I will simply say this. The world is just that, a world. When I log off it continues around without me, if I had any gripes, it would be that NPCs could be more animated, walk around more, interact, talk. Perhaps however this is beta talking, perhaps it's a Korean divide, who knows.
What I do know is that the World is a 9/10.
This section I will not score but I will mention a few things I have had the opportunity to mess with. Firstly mounts, great fun, they level with you, can be equipped with armor. There are plenty in the game so a collection is possible. You can carry passengers and use several attacks from your mount.
Fast travel is brilliant but broken currently. The carts that travel around a zone look great but are very choppy and have a habit of getting stuck. The city transport I used today suffers the same issue but again looks very cool. The airship would be the most badass if it didn't suffer from major clipping issues and a ride that you spend more time worrying you'll fall off. My channel also has a video of the airship ride so you can see for yourself. http://www.twitch.tv/enerzeal/b/330226647
The glider is fantastic fun, really nice for getting around. The vistas and scenery that the glider opens up is also a plus point. It's a great gadget which I think I'll miss in other MMOs when I play them as I wait for this game. Head up to a cliff, activate it and sore over the land and watch you shadow skip over the landscape or your reflection over the water.
Interactive scenery! Ladders! Robes to shimmy along! Trees to climb! These are all fantastic for immersion.
I've had an opportunity to look around and inside the housing we'll have on offer and I cannot wait to have a guild hall. Clapping eyes on that beast was a nostalgic moment when I thought back to UO and their towers. Then I opened the windows and had a moment. The housing is all so interactive!
The siege towers are fun, although I had very little interaction beyond riding them around and firing the cannon. They ride smooth however and look perfect.
The very last thing I can think off would be the ships. The ships contain two sails for lowering and raising. An anchor, 8 guns, two planks for a walkin, a crows nest with a telescope which adds to the mini map icons for all ships in the area, lastly there is the steering wheel. The ships are amazing, they are smooth, they look amazing, I cannot explain how amazing they play, then there is the guild ship... Ohh the guild ship. It cannot be controlled, but it's a play house in the making I can feel it.
In summary I decided very quickly that this game, without even laying hands upon the more important aspects of pvp, dungeoning, raids, and sieges - is the one. I haven't been excited over a game in so very long, and this one is like those early days. It's going to be one painful journey to release, but a journey we all have to make!
This game however has made me angry in one way. I have to ask myself just what all these other developers of MMOs are doing with their time. I have played one of the finest games ever over the past few days made at a fraction of the cost that goes into the bigger named titles, and I have to ask, just what the hell are they all doing?
Thanks for reading if you made it this far,
~ Enerzeal
Thank you, this is music to my ears, from all the AA videos I've seen through the *years* now, I would be rating all of it almost exactly like you.
I would be doing my extensive review of the game if I was in beta
I share some of the positives,but some your scores are overboard lol.
My main concern in liking the game will be it's class/character design.
This design never really works,not in Rift or any game.Points are just restrictedto your level anyhow,so what's the difference?If you spec points into helaing,then are you really a Paladin anymore?See the problem?
The developer knows 100% exactly what makes each class work fluently,so THEY sohuld be the ones to predefine what skills each class gets.Where you allow the player versatility is by doing a design like FFXI that used the sub class.
I do like a lot of the little features and ideas the game will throw at us.What i fear is i will be excited for about 3-4 months ,then after i grasp the entire concept and have little left to explore my interest will fall off.It is simply as i indicated,i need a VERY good class and combat structure to keep me interested.I do like the idea of TEAM work within the group,no game since FFXI has shown me that,however i need to see for myelsef to believe it lol.
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The way the skill system works is thus.
I will take Combat, healing, fortitude trees, which would most the tradition paladin.
My stat priorities are going to be somerhing along the lines of strength, stamina, intellect and spirit which is really stretching me to thin for my gear. It's going to need to be platemail as well. So I decide that I will be a healing paladin, combat is just to fill the third tree up with something, with my focus being on stamina, intellect and spirit.
So now I need to pick my skills. Lets say I've leveled up to 50 already and I have my 28 points to distribute.
I can drop them into any of the skills listed. I don't need the prequisites, I don't need to fill up points to get down to the bottom of the "tree" like World of warcraft of Rift.
I'll end up with a selection of passives, and actives which increase my defensive options as well as my healing power.
I, if compared to traditional linear class system, would be a holy paladin.
Originally posted by wizyy
Thank you, this is music to my ears, from all the AA videos I've seen through the *years* now, I would be rating all of it almost exactly like you. I would be doing my extensive review of the game if I was in beta
Just be happy in the knowledge that so long as westernization doesn't ruin it, then we've found our game.
Originally posted by Wizardry
I share some of the positives,but some your scores are overboard lol.My main concern in liking the game will be it's class/character design.This design never really works,not in Rift or any game.Points are just restrictedto your level anyhow,so what's the difference?If you spec points into helaing,then are you really a Paladin anymore?See the problem?The developer knows 100% exactly what makes each class work fluently,so THEY sohuld be the ones to predefine what skills each class gets.Where you allow the player versatility is by doing a design like FFXI that used the sub class.I do like a lot of the little features and ideas the game will throw at us.What i fear is i will be excited for about 3-4 months ,then after i grasp the entire concept and have little left to explore my interest will fall off.It is simply as i indicated,i need a VERY good class and combat structure to keep me interested.I do like the idea of TEAM work within the group,no game since FFXI has shown me that,however i need to see for myelsef to believe it lol.
Part of the draw to me with the char design system is the synergies between schools. A skill in one school may add 'bleeding' as an effect to the target, then a different schools skill may capitalize on the bleed for increased damage, or duration of the bleed.
Originally posted by DaezAster
Sounds great, question is the combat action based, can you move while attacking/casting, any dodge? I have seen a good amount of footage but there doesn't seem to be much combat footage. Really hoping this game hits the states in 2013, even if the combat isn't 100% to my liking the world looks amazing and I am looking forward to living out my pirate fantasies on the virtual seas. I agree on the feline races run on all 4s looks awkward as hell, think it's the legs are to long and it makes there bottom poke up to much.
Don't expect anything like dodging in the game. It's WoW mechanics in combat at its core, the skill comes from reaction time, planning, and building a good build. The true satisfaction comes from being able to piece together something very specific to your tastes of gameplay, I'll name a similar game with similar-ish systems and why it is better or worse.
Lets start with worse, Tera is way worse, it's so incredibly limited in it's skill building and selection that two of the same class are incredibly similar. It's combat style however crushes Archeage and rightly so, fully reactive twitch will always be superior.
Another one that is worse, but with a better combat mechanic. Guild wars 2 has a specific dodge feature that I know you can use to get out of combat slightly, and you might move with more fluidity in that game. Again though Archeage crushes it in skill system design, where two thieves might differ in weapon choice and specific skill sellection, again you KNOW you're fighting a class that will utlize movement, range and attack speed + strength to bring you down quickly, in Archeage you might encounter a thief style class, but an element so significantly different could change the entire class completely and throw you off your game. (Please note I haven't played Guild wars 2 my self just going off what I've read, please correct if wrong and I'll rewrite this section)
There are a few with more twich based combat I could name, I believe DC, Invictus (not exactly an MMO). I could name more that involve more twitching, jumping and manovering but none of them come close in skill system depth.
Now let's look at WoW and Rift combat. These two only gain merit on Archeage right now due to my ping. My attacks were not responsive as I clicked them due to 500 ping. (I am english.) But the skill system is without equal, UO still trumps it.
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Both streaming for a few hours now. I am Enerzeal and the guild is basically my guild, one of the founders/head honchos is streaming that.
Here is a really nice stream of me and vunak figuring out just how the hell the skill system works with other abilities, excuse my mic sounds, but you can hear a lot of out thought proccess and how we came to the conclusions about damage and how the skills work together.
From our friends at Advaita, 1080p lusciousness... A highlight video that speaks for itself.
Thanks for the review. I am glad we have some input from a person that actually got to play this game. It is the game I have been looking forward to the most for quite a long time.
I kind of expect the graphics and animations to be really good. It is built on cryengine 2 / 3. I saw a video which demonstrates physics which I believe is unprecedented in an MMO (the one with character rolling down the hill).
Sounds and music are not so much of a concern for me.
I do not mind that the quests are done in a traditional way. I do not think it would be so easy to implement something like scripted DEs into a game like AA. Mainly it would not fit in this type of game, I think.
If the combat is like in WoW, then I am happy with that. I am still actively playing WoW and its combat kind of suits me. From the videos, the combat looked quite slow and tedious though. I guess I will have to try it myself. It is difficult to have a clear idea based on watching videos.
The skill system looks promising. I am looking forward to making a unique character. It seems to provide players with a decent level of freedom.
I have quite a good idea about the world from various videos I watched. It looks really nice. I do not mind the asian art style. I used to play Lineage II for several years.
I think that ArcheAge will have to be really good if the devs want it to succeed. I think it is quite possible that in 2014, it will compete with some heavy weight MMOs, such as project Titan. I still wonder if Titan will be so amazing that it would make even a game like AA look like old gen MMO.
I wish AA devs the best luck
Originally posted by Enerzeal The graphical style is one that heavily reminds me of Lineage 2 and of Aion
Ugh...... why....
Thanks for posting this, AA really sounds like the game I've been waiting for years
This is what WoW should had been after several expansions.
Originally posted by Theocritus
Theres no NDA for the beta testing in this game??
Originally posted by Eir_SOriginally posted by Enerzeal The graphical style is one that heavily reminds me of Lineage 2 and of Aion
Ugh...... why....
Nope there is no NDA in place, information is free to share, so ask me anything, in the next two days the CBT5 is down and my source is dried up!
Eir_s I must say this comment confuses me. It reminds me of those two games, two distinctly korean made games. I am sure you have seen the screen shots. Unless you prefer styalized graphics then these are equalled maybe only by The Secret World. That's just fact.
We can say that the great and mighty Guild Wars 2 has the most beautiful graphics but in actual fact in terms of pure polygon count Archeage sits ontop of the pile.
In my mind Lineage 2 has massive landscapes with sharply lined artwork for their buildings. Aion on the other hand has very realistic character models, somewhere just below eve online character creator and APB creator. Archeage has both of these and yet it also has wildlife that just shouts out skyrim.
Though I may be reminded of those two games as I play, never doubt that Archeage has its own very distinct style. The armor people wear to the way greenery walls in paths, it's all very new and interesting and something that only Archeage boasts in the MMO realm.
Thanks for the previews, OP. Glad there wasn't an NDA to worry about.
Is it still set up to have one continent open world PvP and the other continents PvE with closed PvP? I'd love to play a PvE sandbox but most seem to revolve around PvP.
Originally posted by Jaedor
Thanks for the previews, OP. Glad there wasn't an NDA to worry about. Is it still set up to have one continent open world PvP and the other continents PvE with closed PvP? I'd love to play a PvE sandbox but most seem to revolve around PvP.
We don't know yet.
I really hope XLGAMES doesn't screw it up, if the game wants more than a niche appeal, it needs PVE servers where there is 0.00000 PVP on the 2 main continents, so PVErs can build houses, towns, have their own farm and explore the sea without getting worried about being ganked...
And if they want PVP, they can always go to the third continent.
AA should also have PVP servers where you can get killed anywhere, even by your own faction, of course.
More choices = Win.
Mark my words, if there aren't PVE servers, this game will never have more than 200-300k subs, at best, the jail system will never work, it won't be enough for the kind of players who get killed ONCE and ragequit the game.
And im a PVPer.
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Originally posted by Tibernicus
Quest grinding? I thought this was a sandbox? I guess I'll pass...
I wouldn't call it a sandbox, or maybe i would, im not sure yet what this game is.
It's more like and old school themepark with many features that aren't common in themeparks.
AA, in many ways, is basically Lineage 3, with more stuff to do and quests for the people who don't want to grind mobs in groups or hunt open world bosses with PVP every now and then, like this one
Lineage 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPiPDhztpe0
ArcheAge: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLEq725gIqE
Honestly, even though i hate quests, im not forced to do them at all, there are different ways to progress in this game.
And by having quests, you avoid the usual 16 year old wow players who scream "korean grindfest" because they can't get to max level in a week.
"Dogs are the leaders of the planet. If you see two life forms, one of them's making a poop, the other one's carrying it for him, who would you assume is in charge."
"The idea behind the tuxedo is the woman's point of view that men are all the same; so we might as well dress them that way. That's why a wedding is like the joining together of a beautiful, glowing bride and some guy"
Originally posted by Gamefun
Enerzeal from Darkfall?.
The very same one yes!
Archeage is a vast mixture of several different elements, yes they have very WoW esque quests, but they also have about 30+ house choices not including texture differences and items that go into those homes you build. It's a moasic of some of the best things to come into the MMO industry.
All i can say is, give it a try when it comes over here. You won't regret it.


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|Posted by Terry Love on December 08, 2001 at 12:42:48:
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: i'm purchasing a toto drake toilet, and the saleswoman suggested adding the air/pressure flush assist. she says it's only an additional $30, flushes with half the water, with NO additional noise or splashing. is she right? should i add it?
Toto has a nice system called "G-Max" which uses a three inch flush valve combined with the Quick-fill Korky fill valve.
I sell quite a few of the "pressure assist" toilets also. Gerber, American Standard are two I sell a lot of. They do work nice, a bit more noise, but for some, that is not a problem.
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Ten months after Texas A&M stunned Alabama in Tuscaloosa, the Crimson Tide will pay a visit to College Station and face the team that nearly knocked them out of national title contention.
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Alabama must figure out how to stop Johnny Manziel and the Aggies offense that tore through them early last year. With the entire offseason to prepare, we'll see if Nick Saban has come up with a way to slow down the Heisman Trophy winner.
Though the stakes are high for this game, it is important to note that Alabama last season was able to overcome a loss to make its way to the BCS title game. The loser isn't out of it. But the winner sure gets a big boost on the way to Pasadena.
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Skip to comments.Massive 1,100+ year old Maya site discovered in Georgia's mountains
Posted on 12/22/2011 7:57:09 PM PST by LucyT
Archaeological zone 9UN367 at Track Rock Gap, near Georgias highest mountain, Brasstown Bald, is a half mile (800 m) square and rises 700 feet (213 m) in elevation up a steep mountainside.
Visible are at least 154 stone masonry walls for agricultural terraces, plus evidence of a sophisticated irrigation system and ruins of several other stone structures. Much more may be hidden underground.
It is possibly the site of the fabled city of Yupaha, which Spanish explorer Hernando de Soto failed to find in 1540, and certainly one of the most important archaeological discoveries in recent times.
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"3D virtual reality image was made from the Johannes Loubser site plan. There may be many other hidden structures in the ancient site."
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Thanks aposiopetic for the ping.
I had no idea.
Although they could have been obtained through round about trade with other tribes, and moved hand to hand over thousands of miles, they could also have been made easily by Maya then invading the South Central states.
BTW, that's a KNOWN FACT. Culturally Mayan people were present in North America, and certainly South Florida and Caribbean islands.
We'll never be able to shut those La Raza lowlifes up now. Guess we all better get ready to be shipped back to Europe.
Only if we can then ship the muslims back to Hell.
First I have heard of it.
I don't know. This might be something to shut them up. The Anglo settler's descendents should now only deal with those tribes we know have been in the US area for many centuries and not a bunch of recent illegal arrivals in the Southwest and West.
Deal with the Cherokee and Creek and the tribes known to have lived in what is now the US when the settlers began arriving.
"Guess we all better get ready to be shipped back to Europe."
I just found out tonight that my maternal great grandparents were full Dutch. So now my heritage is Scotch-Irish/Swedish/Dutch.
I'm Eurotrash!
The "dates" are a tad different, but we can't rule out EARLIER Mayan forays into this area.
It's due East of Arrow Rock Missouri, and West of Arcola WV and Arcola VA.
Not that any of that means anything, but if this place has 1/2 square mile of designated space, that's about 500 arpents.
It could very well have a mix of Mayan AND Spanish settlement patterns, and "artifacts".
Don't believe DeSoto's journal when he said they didn't find gold ~ there's ALWAYS gold associated with Iron Pyrite. That's invariably an iron/nickel meteorite site ~ I'll do some detailed checking tomorrow to see if there's an outline of any early settlement that follows the design required in The Law Of The Indies.
Very true. I have a pile of 10,000 year old points found in the field just below my folks house here in the mountains of NC.
I'm Eurotrash
Nope- just a good blend of a lot of different backgrounds.
In genetics, they call it "hybrid vigor." Stronger and better than purebred, and certainly less boring.
Thanks for the post, I will have to read more on this.
The Mayan civilization dominated the region in and around the Yucatán Peninsula of what is now Mexico. Since Mexico is in North America, I'd say that fact has been known for about, oh, 500 years.
Once a people are exposed to an aspect of a culture that is clearly useful, they can adopt it, and adapt to it, very quickly. For instance, nobody needed to spend much time teaching the Indians of the high plains the usefulness of mustangs before their whole cultures were revolutionized. Though they might have shared many identical aspects of the horse culture of the Mongolian steppe, they never needed to meet a Mongolian.
My two cents.
"Im Eurotrash!"
Not at all, you're blended Scotch!
Maybe they will find page 2 of that Mayan calendar everyone is talking about, the one that ends in 2012 ...
gold was and is mined throughout this region of nw Ga, se tn. Seems the Maya just a bout will not inhabit an area free of gold. If the site is ever thouroughly excavaated , much gold could be the result. Many of these hillside structures contained caches mined fairly deep into the clif bottoms where food and valuables were store.
How cool! I've been fascinated by Mayan culture for years and always wanted to visit some of their ruins.
These may not be as spectacular as those in Central America but they're a HECK of a lot closer. I may have to tell Hubby it's time for a road trip!
While you're in the neighborhood, see the Etowah Indian Mounds, a 54-acre archaeological site in Bartow County, Georgia south of Cartersville.
"Built and occupied in three phases, from 10001550 CE, the prehistoric site is located on the north shore of the Etowah River. Etowah Indian Mounds Historic Site is a designated National Historic Landmark, managed by the Georgia Department of Natural Resources."
More info with several photos:
Ok, now I'm champin' at the bit to get away from the farm and head to GA. Hubby's out at the garage right now and has no idea what he'll be walking into when he comes in. LOL!
I had no idea there were sites like this so close by.
In florida, look up the windover site near titusville. Well preserved bodies found in a bog. estimated 5000-7000 yrs old. in the brevard museum evidence of loom weaving and sophisticated agriculture. the neutral ph anerobic water left the bodies in amazing shape with some bodies even having brain material intact in the skulls.
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The Golden City of Iroquois Oral Tradition
Perhaps about two thousand two hundred years before the Columbus discovered the America [708 B.C.?], and the northern nations [north of the St. Lawrence River?] appointed a prince, and immediately repaired to the south [of the St. Lawrence River?] and visited the great Emperor who resided at the Golden City, a capital of the vast empire. After a time the Emperor built many forts throughout his dominions and almost penetrated the lake Erie; this produced an excitement, the people of the north felt that they would soon be deprived of the country on the south side of the Great Lakes they determined to defend their country against any infringement of foreign people; long bloody wars ensued which lasted about one hundred years; the people of the north were too skillful in the use of bows and arrows and could endure hardships which proved fatal to a foreign people; at last the northern nations gained the conquest and all the towns and forts were totally destroyed and left them in a heap of ruins.
Bonaparte, Darren, `Creation and Confederation`
Brasstown bald Mountain is near Lumpkin County, GA which was the epicenter of the gold rush of 1830's. Same Gold rush that caused Andrew Jackson to rescind all native claims to lands and auction all lands off to pioneer settlers so as to eliminate 'foreign' native interests. Same goold rush that led to the trail of tears. The Maya and Aztecs had a thing for gold.
``Beneath the Tree was a great hole. The woman peered from the edge into the hole and suddenly fell off the edge. As she was falling she grasped at the edge and clutched in her hand some of the earth from the Sky World. As she fell, the birds of the world below were disturbed and alerted to her distress. The birds responded and gathered a great many of their kind to break her fall and cradle her to the back of a great sea turtle. The creatures of the water believed that she needed land to live on, so they set about to collect some for her. They dove to the great depths of the world's oceans to gather earth to make her a place to live. Many of the animals tried to gather the earth from the ocean floor, only the muskrat was successful. With only a small bit of earth brought onto turtle's back from his small paws, Turtle Island began to grow.
The Sky Woman soon gave birth to a daughter on Turtle Island. The daughter grew fast. There were no man-beings on Turtle Island, but a being known as the West Wind married the daughter of Sky Woman.``
Almost all of us white folk here in US are...er I wouldn't say "Eurotrash"..but European mutts yes. I'm still trying to figure out "exactly" what I am but I'm finding it's too wide a mixture for my liking lol! There's Irish and English/Welsh and German/Dutch for sure and smidgen of Swedish, but there was a Jewish last name from an ancestor that came from the area which is now Transylvania, Romania but used to be Austo-Hungary whose descendant traveled to England and married an English woman and their sons went to Jewish schools but the old pictures of them I have they don't LOOK Jewish (the men) some of the brothers look Italian and others look somewhat German or something. However on my my mother's side...her father told her his folk came from Germany only their last name is Scottish...Why am I telling a complete stranger this I dont' know lol!
Great. Now the reconquista crowd is going to want Georgia back too.
.......I see a Mayan Casino in the not too distant future for Georgia.
The comments at the link are quite contentious!
Weren't those built by the Adena tribe? I don't think they had anything to do with the Mayans, who would (IMO) left something more complex than a mount of dirt.
I have backpacked and trapised all around this area since I was a teen and have never seen any evidence of something like this anywhere. Not saying it isn't true, but I have a geology degree and can spot man made features fairly well.
Well said.
I'd never heard of it before, either. :')
Great. Now the reconquista crowd is going to want Georgia back too.
Nah. They'll just have the Courts appoint them Special Masters (as they did in Washington State) able to take whatever they choose which makes money.
There are several different cultures of Mound Building in the Ohio Valley and Central South ~ including folks who were neither Adena nor Hopewell but were still building mounds when De Soto visited (1541).
The Cherokee rightly denied having built older mounds ~ they lived much further West and were new arrivals in the Southern Appalachians.
Sounds fairly reasonable ~ lot of stuff encoded in there but Fur Shur it established the political supremacy of the women among the Iroquois.
So did the Swedes and Bretons ~ A very notable taste for the goods.
So what we have here is a site in hillycountry and there are ancient Indian works, more recent works, a modern town, and gold miners have been in the place.
This may well be one of the more important archaeological sites in North America when it comes to evidence of Spanish penetration.
At some point someone will come up with a picture of those "stones" ~ bet they are somewhat like parallelograms and look just like typical 1500s Spanish boundary stones ~ which are also sometimes quite large.
Another area of interest is upstream above Great Falls on the Potomac ~ there were comparable numbers of Indians in that area attracted by the presence of year round fresh water even during periods of drought.
This territory changed hands many times over the centuries, but every linguistic group in North America had "places" with people there when the Spanish discovered the Western Arm of Chesapeake Bay.
Very valuable place ~ now used as the United States capital city!
Fascinating! Thanks.
The Mayan people(s) used boats.
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TEMPE, Ariz. - Sophomore first baseman Brett Wallace and junior second baseman Eric Sogard have been named semi-finalists for the 30th Golden Spikes Award, presented annually to nation's premier amateur baseball player. Wallace and Sogard are among 50 semi-finalists for the award, which will be presented on June 29th.
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Arizona State University baseball has a rich history with the Golden Spikes Award, as three Sun Devils have earned the honor. The first ever Golden Spikes winner was an ASU Sun Devil, as Bob Horner took home the inaugural award in 1978. Oddibe McDowell won the award in 1984 and Mike Kelly earned the distinction in 1991. ASU is tied with Florida State and Cal State Fullerton for the most Golden Spikes Award winners.
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The Utah State Parks Road Trip RV is expected to arrive at Huntington State Park May 13 at approximately 9:32 a.m. on its history-making tour of all 43 state parks in three days.
Nearby residents and visitors are encouraged to show their support of Huntington State Park by welcoming the Road Trippers. All visitors who meet the Road Trippers will earn Utah State Park supporter pins.
Huntington State Park is the 16th stop on the 43-state park tour that begins at noon May 12 from Antelope Island State Park.
The Utah State Parks Road Trip RV is expected to arrive at Goblin Valley State Park May 13 at approximately 1:44 p.m. on its history-making tour of all 43 state parks in three days.
A group of six people will pile in an RV and drive approximately 2,200 miles visiting all 43 state parks and returning back to Antelope Island May 15.
"The idea of the road trip is to showcase the importance, beauty and diversity of Utah's state park system and rally Utahns to come out and support their favorite state parks, and state parks in their communities," said Barbara Riddle.
Barbara Riddle, Chris Dallin, Tim Hughes, Russ Smith, Bill Francis and Vaughn Jacobsen will share close quarters in an RV as they visit the parks. The trip is funded privately and through in-kind donations: RV provided by All Access Recreation Club, cash from Chevron, promotion by KSL Radio, satellite communication by Skycall Communications and videography by The Imagination Company. During and after the trip, the Road Trippers will blog, and share video and photos through updates on their website at www.utahstateparksroadtrip.com.
"We challenge every Utahn to visit a state park this year, if we can do all 43 parks in three days, you can visit one," said Russ Smith with Skycall Communications.
The Road Trip coincides with the Utah Tourism Conference and National Tourism Week, and is an official Travel Day Event designated by U.S. Travel. Road Trippers will stop briefly at the Utah Tourism Conference in Park City on Thursday night to meet up with the Utah Tourism Industry Coalition, Utah Office of Tourism, and other tourism entities.
Tourism is one of Utah's largest industries, generating $6.2 billion in traveler spending every year and $625 million in state and local taxes. Utah's state parks alone host nearly 5 million visitors annually.
Established by the 1957 Utah Legislature, the state park system has been a recent target of budget cuts, stripped of $8.3 million in general funds over the last four years. With no new funding in sight for operations or replacement of aging facilities, the Road Trippers want to raise awareness about potential state park closures.


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Jill Humiston of Logan and Alice Warren and Scott Warren and Chris and Lynda Jensen of Price, announce the marriage of Annika Elizabeth Humiston to Christopher Ryan Jensen.
They will be married May 9, in the Logan LDS Temple. An open house will be held May 15, from 5:30-7:30 p.m. at the Old Institute, 380 East 400 North, Price.
Annika graduated from Logan High School and LDS seminary in 2007. She was active in track, cross country, band, student government, honor society, and clubs and service organizations. She is currently a junior at Utah State University studying aerospace engineering.
Ryan graduated from Carbon High School and LDS seminary in 2002, where he was active in theater and broadcasting. He received his private pilots license in 2003. Ryan served in the New Zealand Wellington Mission from 2003-2005 and graduated from the College of Eastern Utah with an AS degree in 2007. He is a senior at USU majoring in geology.


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Whichever, I just don't want two threads for a chapter.
true but fair is fair after all and i was pleasantly surprised by this chapter. i love the tag team action coming up next chapter. i did not see that coming i was expecting gray to save her but i am excited to see the upcoming battle.
It was fun to watch, was Lucy always that fast at summoning her spirits? Im interested in Lucy fire this time, I hope its actual fire and not some kind of "flame of friendship" or something corny like that... But what im wondering is what happened to all these flames that Natsu has eaten of the series? Can he still bring up the flame or rebuke from Jallal? God flame from Zancrow? Super powered up flame from eating raw etherion? I really hope so cause that would be cool that he has an internal arsenal that he could pull up at any time, but if it just enhances his already dragon flame and makes it a stronger version of it then thats cool too.
Im kinda hoping theres more to Kain, if not then hes kinda the most "normal" of GH 7K, he kinda looks like hes just playing around...
A pie in the sky?
Great chapter.
Looking forward to see what Natsu and Lucy will do against Ultear and Kain.
Manga reading list: Bleach, Naruto, Katekyo Hitman Reborn, One Piece, Code Breaker, Gamaran, Kuroko No Basket, Fairy Tail, The World God Only Knows, Kimi No Iru Machi, Good Ending, Medaka Box, Nisekoi, D.Gray-Man, Ao No Exorcist, Freezing, Magi - Labyrinth of Magic, Soul Eater, Rosario Vampire Season II, Iris Zero, Ubell Blatt, Bloody Cross, Sun-Ken Rock, and Infinite Stratos,
I'm glad to see that Mashima is doing ok and didn't get caught in the crossfire. I believe he was one of the mangakas unaccounted for so I assume this chapter means he's doing alright.
When Kain offered Lucy his Voodoo doll to prove his magic was legit I couldn't help but laugh at the idiot getting thrown around. Kain's a total goof, no way are we supposed to take this guy seriously. Sure his powers are unique and he's physically a monster but his personality is so odd and off tempo that he just comes off as a joke, which I believe is the intention of the character.
His body changing forms based on his doll adds more versatility to his powers. Too bad any credibility he had by taking out 3 Stellars in a row was instantly lost after Natsu pwned him in hilarious fashion. Not to mention Taurus and Sagittarius are jokes themselves, and Scorpio hasn't done much to prove himself either. (I think his girlfriend is way more nasty personally)
My only grievance is that I think Natsu is being overused at this point. His fights with Gildartz and Zancrow were both good and connected to each other as a form of personal growth for Natsu. Mashima you know Gray hasn't had an actual on-screen fight all arc right? A bit of a letdown for the series rival/lancer considering he's done little to nothing so far. I think you could squeeze in a little development time for Iceboy before Natsu's 3rd consecutive fight.
The good thing about this fight however, is that it's a triple team with our original three heroes just like how the manga began. Natsu's getting a bit too much exposure though.
Despite that I'm excited for the upcoming fight. Don't believe they should outclass Ultear but taking Kain out seems likely.


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A make-ahead tip: Wrap them in foil and refrigerate 3 days or freeze up to 1 month. Reheat at 375°F for 8 to 10 minutes.
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Returning to Their Roots with the Global Jewish Service Corps
When Karin Goitman of Cincinnati, Ohio, told her Ukrainian-born parents she would spend a year in Ukraine as a JDC Entwine Global Jewish Service Corps fellow, they were a bit surprised.
When Karin Goitman of Cincinnati, Ohio, told her Ukrainian-born parents she would spend a year in Ukraine as a JDC Entwine Global Jewish Service Corps fellow, they were a bit surprised.
Jewish children will return this week to the community school JDC supports in Athens, Greece, amid the backdrop of a lingering financial crisis and looming questions about what the future holds.
For 24-year-old David Csillik — who works as a unit head at Szarvas, JDC and the Ronald S. Lauder Foundation's pioneering international Jewish summer camp — his purpose is clear.
They came from almost every country in Europe. Dozens of Jewish activists and leaders from Spain to Finland, Greece to the U.K., gathered in Barcelona on June 29 to discuss major issues affecting their communities across Europe including anti-Semitism, political extremism and economic hardship.
When Jewish girls in Bulgaria dress up this week as Queen Esther, they're not only reenacting Purim's ancient tale of rescue – they are commemorating the fact that their own community was saved from extinction at the hands of the Nazis during World War II. It is the stuff of legend and great pride for Bulgarian Jews, who also have a local connection to the universal lesson of the Jews of Sushan, that remarkable things are possible when we stand together – even the renaissance of a Jewish community that was dormant for 45 years.
It seems like the kind of magical myth more suited to a children's story than modern Europe — a roving Chanukah caravan, traveling from town to town to light Chanukah candles.
Selfies with the rabbi. A bounce castle. An open-air Jewish market. These were just a few of the dozens of activities on the docket at the Balint JCC in Budapest, Hungary's annual Open Doors Festival – a chance for the main community institution of the city's approximately 100,000 Jews to introduce itself to its neighbors.
Emblematic of Poland's astonishing Jewish revival, Agata Rakowiecka is the director of the city's Jewish Community Center, celebrating its first anniversary later this month.
From birth, 15-year-old Yana Taratun has been an active member of the Jewish community of Minsk, the capital of Belarus and a city about the size of Philadelphia.
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Spoiler!Akainu for the next Straw Hat Crew Member!!!
Ok I have a couple of predictions for chapter 598.
Hear me out now it might sound like something Oda won't do but I think it might happen.
He'll have a Rayleigh give another haki explanation and saying that 2 years ago was a lie, that only confirmed people have haki and Zoro has this amazing power because well he's just badass why the fuck can't he have it!!
I want to see Franky he looks huge! I can't wait too see their new pawnage powers.
It wont go in the hall of fame..
It will have its own section.. Theyll name it.. "The post of shame - What happens when One Piece is gone for 4 weeks"
Yeah.. its both sad and incredible at the same time.. Most people would probably go crazy trying to read this entire thread.. Thankfully, i only started appearing near the end.. 1500 posts in barely over 4 weeks.. Is this like the most popular post at MS? Besides ones in BZ..
Why are we still posting here!!!??? Stop!!
yay last post in this thread! *woot* hahahaha
and fenix your predictions are just fine...now get outta here [and off to the newer ones] hahaha
151 pages of posts and the thread didn't godwin, I'm proud of you guys - P
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: : : The brand is Pumptrol. My concern is the pressure tank(Weltrol) or and any of the houses plumbing.(1973 all copper)in good shape.I want to increase the shower pressure in the second floor everyone in the house complains.I removed the flow restrictor from the shower head allready.Is 60/40 the highest I should go or is there a auxliiary pump I could install for the upstairs(second story) thanks..
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The unmanned underwater probe searching for evidence of the missing Malaysian airliner is the deepest-rated "autonomous underwater vehicle," or AUV, that the U.S. Navy operates. Less autonomous vehicles in its fleet can go nearly a mile deeper.
Six hours into a planned 16-hour mission Monday, the Bluefin-21 probe aborted its search when a built-in safety feature returned it to the surface, according to the Joint Agency Coordination Center, the Australian government initiative leading the search.
The Bluefin-21, designed to hover about 100 feet above the seafloor, reached its maximum depth Monday, the agency said. The probe is rated to depths of 14,763 feet, or about 2.8 miles.
RELATED: Search options dwindling
Other probes, designed to be towed by ships, can reach nearly 3.8 miles underwater, but they're not fully autonomous. Chris Johnson, a U.S. Navy spokesman, said Tuesday that the Navy has several such vehicles but hasn't been asked to send one to the search area off the coast of Australia.
So-called Remotely Operated Vehicles (ROVs) are often tethered to ships with fiber-optic cables that provide video, sonar and other data. They move more slowly than AUVs but can perform special operations underwater.
The chunky, 6,400-pound CURV 21 boasts two arms and "custom tool packages,", according to materials provided by the Navy. Manufactured by Maryland-based Phoenix International, the CURV 21 is one of several ROVs rated to 20,000 feet.
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December 18 2008 10:31AM
Maybe it was the fact that Trevor Linden had both his number retired and oddly had a gate of the arena dedicated in his name earlier in the night. Maybe it was the fact that this team looks like it would lose in a slap fight with a six-year-old girl right now. Either way the Oilers gassed another last night -– this time to fall to 14-14-2 despite what our standings on the OilersNation will tell you.
It was better than the previous game, we will give them that. But that's kind of like saying "Being hit with a sledgehammer in the side of the head sure hurts less than being hit by a car." Neither option feels good exactly –- but one does feel better than the other. Still the Christmas Miracle we prayed to Santa for three short days ago has come back a roundhouse kick to the face. With a candy cane to follow, we imagine. Thanks Santa.
Yeah yeah glimmers of hope
Oh joy, Jumbo Donair potted another one. That's his ninth and he has essentially shut all his critics down with his calibre of play. Not that it has silenced all of his critics mind you, but the ones that are able to read can see his level of output has increased dramatically since MacT stapled his large posterior to the press box and have shut up.
Sweet Georgia Brown, the Little One found some scraps in front of the net and jammed home a score. We are sure that the recap of the goal was used hours later in a great pick-up line at some club in Vancouver. You will excuse us if we don't write 5000 words about how he is turning the corner heading into the Xmas break.
First Star
Oh, let's see here... Who merits first-star standings on the Oil last night? Shucks, we will go unsung-hero on your asses and say El Capitan Ethan Moreau was the best Oiler on the ice. Maybe he didn't make it onto the score sheet but he had six PIM and five shots on net in only 11:53 worth of ice time. Was physical all night and tried to use the tools at his disposal to keep the team in the game.
First worst star
Though we have been defending him of late –- particularly to Gord who believes Horcoff should be traded, waived or executed if no takers can be found –- we will have to hand this off to Horcoff. He ate up a ton of ice time (24:48) yet managed not a single shot on net en route to a -1 night. We didn't see him cycling, playing the body or doing any of the things that makes him the goods on most nights.
Final thought
Let's be clear. There is no bandwagon jumping here at the Nation. And you can see that this is the case because incredibly the JL meeting last night was the busiest we have had all season long. Now that's a Christmas miracle. We will still be in attendance on Friday against the Ducks. If they lose that one the headline will read "Local jackass mistakes usher for MacTavish and demands resignation during second intermission. Finds out he is wrong, starts to cry, wets pants."
Now that will be something worth writing about.
Things can only get better . . . right?
December 18 2008, 10:47AM
Worst team in the NHL!!! What a fu__ing joke, I never seen a team full of such talentless pussies in my life!!! I've been watching the Oil since 83 so I've seen some sub par years, but this the worst!! Blackhawks!! now thats how you play hockey! They should watch tapes of their games over and over. Time to clean house!!
I have to disagree about Moreau being first star. While he did have a pretty good game, he is the captain and he cant take stupid penalties. the oilers were gaining momentum playing well in the 3rd when gagne got hit behind the net. i like to see a player stand up for his team mate but it was a clean hit and gagne was fine. Moreau was very lucky that he fell over when he grabbed mitchell(or whoever it was) if not for that there would have been a fight and moreau would have gotten 2 for instigating 5 for fighting and a ten effectively ending his night. the roughing minor was bad enough for killing the oilers flow.
Since Claude Lemieux is trying to make a career again in the league, how about we dust off Petr Klima's brain bucket and set him lose?
"It was better than the previous game, we will give them that. But that's kind of like saying "Being hit with a sledgehammer in the side of the head sure hurts less than being hit by a car." Neither option feels good exactly –- but one does feel better than the other." Wanye, I think what you were looking for is 'one does not hurt as much as the other.'
I think the biggest positive from this game is the Oilers were actually hitting people. Stortini started it off be demolishing O'Brien and the rest of the team jumped on it. I even saw Samwise Gamgee making hits last night. I loved the Moreau hit on Sammy 'broken glass' Salo.
Looking at the stat sheet, Oilers fans weren't the only ones not watching the game. Who ever was responsible for recording hit totals for the game was obviously asleep or waiting in line for beer, the bathroom or Elisha Cuthbert. How does Moreau not register a hit on the scoresheet? That what he did all game long, every shift! Cole with 1? I noticed at least 4. I saw Cogs make a least 5 hits yet he is also at 1.
That is one stat that needs some definate improvement and consistancy around the league.
December 18 2008, 11:01AM
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Worst team in the NHL!!! What a fu__ing joke, I never seen a team full of such talentless pussies in my life!!!
So of the Blues, Isles, Thrashers, or Lightning, which one would you like to trade teams straight across for right now, including development players?
December 18 2008, 11:06AM
You know what I noticed last night? The PK after Moreau took the roughing call for sticking up for Sammy was one of our better PK's I've seen in a long time.
They were hard on loose pucks, challenging the puck carriers, clearing the puck with authority and generally being a nuisance for the Vancouver PP. I don't recall if they ever really got set up on that PP.
Why was that? The only thing I can speculate is that they WANTED to kill that penalty to Moreau because, while it may have not been the right time for the captain to take that penalty, he was just being a good teammate by sticking up for the little guy...so the team returned the favor.
It just goes to show you that this team can be capable when they want to.
Oil are struggling right now but 'worst team in the NHL'...not going to go that far. If any of them played with half the heart that Moreau did we'd be a good team. Yes, some of his penalties aren't the best timed but at least he is showing that he's pissed off and is trying to do something. He's not going to score a Hemsky-like goal so do what he does best.
December 18 2008, 11:15AM
i would probably do a trade team for team with the lightning.
The lackadaisical, sloppy passing is what drives me nuts.
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i would probably do a trade team for team with the lightning.
that is probably why you just hang out in the locker room and only sing the anthem the odd time.
Wayne: How fast is the car going? I make take sudden death over watching another game....I mean over a sledge hammer beating....last time, it wasn't much fun.
December 18 2008, 11:49AM
Does MacT have pictures of someone with rubber boots, assless chaps and sheep? Why is he still here? Nothing is happening except production of steaming smelly coilers.
December 18 2008, 11:54AM
As soon as Rexi Ruotsalainen comes back we'll be fine.
Ruotsolainen... ruotsalainen... Isn't that the player that Glen Sather kept protecting on waivers and as a result we lost a bunch of players in the expansion drafts?
Bring back Bub Slug!
December 18 2008, 12:04PM
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Joey Moss wrote: i would probably do a trade team for team with the lightning. that is probably why you just hang out in the locker room and only sing the anthem the odd time.
Now that is funny!
December 18 2008, 12:32PM
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i would probably do a trade team for team with the lightning.
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This British naval boarding axe was used in hand-to-hand combat by sailors serving in the British Royal Navy during the War of 1812. The boarding axe is an interesting weapon of choice – it was originally intended for labour on ships! During the war it was used primarily when boarding enemy ships on the high seas.
In 1812 the British Royal Navy was the largest in the world, holding over 600 commissioned vessels. While the Royal Navy was indeed present on the Great Lakes, the British naval forces in Halifax, Nova Scotia, bore the brunt of the war at sea. For more stories about the navy during the War of 1812, read HMS Shannon Defeats and Captures USS Chesapeake in the This Week in History archives.
At least 15 wrecks of ships from the War of 1812 have been discovered. The most impressive shipwreck discovery occurred in 1973 when a Canadian government research vessel uncovered the US schooners the Hamilton and Scourge, 88 meters below the surface of Lake Ontario. Today they are a National Historic Site and you can read The Sinking of the USS Hamilton and Scourge in the This Week in History archives to learn more.