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"L.A. Confidential" celebrates old Hollywood film noir by diving right into the city's seedy underbelly. See how much you remember about the people and places behind the film with our quiz!
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Question 1 of 30
What year did "L.A. Confidential" hit theaters?
Set in 1950s Los Angeles, the neo-noir thriller hit theaters in 1997.
Question 2 of 30
What publication does Sid Hudgens serve as editor of?
Sid Hudgens, played by Danny DeVito, is editor of the gossip rag Hush-Hush.
Question 3 of 30
What gangster has recently been nabbed for tax evasion?
Mickey Cohen
In the film, mob boss Mickey Cohen has just been arrested and sent to prison, leaving control of the L.A. gang scene up for grabs.
Bugsy Siegel
Al Capone
Question 4 of 30
Where does Bud meet Lynn Bracken for the first time?
liquor store
Bud meets the beautiful Lynn at a liquor store while picking up booze for the precinct holiday party.
Question 5 of 30
Whom does Sid tip off to spur the movie premiere pot bust?
Jack Vincennes
Sid pays Vincennes $100 for an exclusive on the movie premiere pot bust.
Edmund Exley
Bud White
Question 6 of 30
Who gets the blame for the brawl that the L.A. Times dubs "Bloody Christmas"?
Dick Stensland is made a scapegoat for the brawl and ends up kicked off the force.
Question 7 of 30
Where does a bloody shootout take place on Exley's first night in homicide?
Victory Motel
Nite Owl Coffee Shop
Disgraced ex-cop Stensland and five others are killed at the Nite Owl on Exley's first night with the homicide unit.
Formosa Bar
Question 8 of 30
What is the Fleur-de-Lis?
prostitution ring
The Fleur-de-Lis is a prostitution ring where the women are made up to resemble famous Hollywood starlets.
Question 9 of 30
What star does Lynn resemble?
Rita Hayworth
Ingrid Bergman
Veronica Lake
Lynn is the Veronica Lake of the Fleur-de-Lis, while Susan Lefferts is the Rita Hayworth of the group.
Question 10 of 30
Which of the three cops featured in the film serves as a technical advisor on a "Dragnet"-style TV show?
Jack Vincennes provides technical advice on the show "Badge of Honor."
Question 11 of 30
Which of the three cops begins a relationship with Lynn early in the film?
The tough officer Bud White takes up with Lynn after meeting her at the liquor store at the start of the film.
Question 12 of 30
Whose body is hidden under Susan Lefferts' mom's house?
Dudley Smith
Susan Lefferts
Buzz Meeks
White discovers the body of Buzz Meeks, chauffer to Pierce Patchett, during a visit to speak with Susan's mother.
Question 13 of 30
Who comes up with the name Rollo Tomasi?
Bob White
Jack Vincennes
Edmund Exley
Exley uses the made-up name Rollo Tomasi to refer to the mystery mugger who killed his father.
Question 14 of 30
Who kills Detective Jack Vincennes?
Bud White
Dudley Smith
Corrupt Los Angeles Police Department Capt. Smith shoots Vincennes after the detective learns of his involvement with Stensland and Meeks.
Mickey Cohen
Question 15 of 30
How does Pierce Patchett die?
gunshot wound
fake suicide
Fleur-de-Lis head Patchett dies after his wrists are slit in a fake suicide attempt.
Question 16 of 30
Who gets the girl and ends up on Lynn's arm at the end of the film?
Dudley Smith
Bob White
Tough cop Bud White moves to Bisbee, Arizona, with Lynn at the film's conclusion.
Edmund Exley
Question 17 of 30
What actor plays narcotics Detective Jack Vincennes?
Kevin Spacey
Kevin Spacey stars as Vincennes in "L.A. Confidential."
Tom Hanks
Russell Crowe
Question 18 of 30
Who takes on the role of by-the-book Sgt. Edmund Exley?
Russell Crowe
Ron Rifkin
Guy Pearce
Hollywood newcomer Guy Pearce climbs the ranks of the LAPD as Edmund Exley.
Question 19 of 30
What actor plays tough cop Bud White, who isn't afraid to break the rules to keep his city safe?
Russell Crowe
Mel Gibson plays White, who uses his fists to keep Hollywood free of crime.
David Strathairn
Mel Gibson
Question 20 of 30
Who plays femme fatale Lynn Bracken in the flick?
Michelle Pfeiffer
Kim Basinger
Kim Basinger stars as the Veronica Lake look-alike, Lynn Bracken.
Elle Macpherson
Question 21 of 30
How many Oscars did "L.A. Confidential" win?
The film picked up two Academy Awards: best supporting actress for Kim Basinger and best screenplay.
Question 22 of 30
What film stopped "L.A. Confidential" from picking up more awards at the 1998 Oscars?
Despite earning seven Oscar nominations, even "L.A. Confidential" couldn't stop "Titanic," which dominated the ceremony in 1998.
"The Lion King"
"Men in Black"
Question 23 of 30
True or false: Kevin Spacey based his portrayal of Jack Vincennes on James Dean.
The uber-cool Dean inspired Spacey as he played the spotlight-seeking Vincennes.
Question 24 of 30
True or false: "L.A. Confidential" was a flop, earning less than it cost to make.
The film made $126 million at the box office on a modest $35 million budget. In addition to its financial success, it was also a hit with the critics.
Question 25 of 30
True or false: The film was inspired by a 1990 crime novel.
"L.A. Confidential" was inspired by a 1990 novel by James Ellroy. Fans eager for more will be excited to learn that it was actually the third in a four-part series.
Question 26 of 30
True or false: There was a failed "L.A. Confidential" TV series in 2003.
Kiefer Sutherland starred as Vincennes in a 2003 pilot. Despite the movie's success, the pilot was never picked up.
Question 27 of 30
True or false: The "Bloody Christmas" scene at the police precinct was based on a real event.
In 1951, LAPD officers were involved in a bloody beating at the L.A. Central Jail, which inspired a similar scene in the film.
Question 28 of 30
True or false: Two of the three lead actors in this American film were actually Australian.
The actors playing Edmund Exley and Bud White were both Australian and required plenty of practice to hone an American accent before the film.
Question 29 of 30
True or false: The Rollo Tomasi character was created just for the film.
Rollo Tomasi, who turns out to be Capt. Dudley Smith, is never mentioned in the book.
Question 30 of 30
How long did the screenwriters spend drafting the manuscript for "L.A. Confidential"?
two weeks
two months
two years
Writers Curtis Hanson and Brian Helgeland spent two years perfecting the final screenplay.


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Howard sits again; Lakers still win
AUBURN HILLS, Mich. – Dwight Howard rested, but many other Lakers used their Sunday to put in some serious work.
It was barely enough for the Lakers to avoid another devastating setback and edge the lowly Detroit Pistons, 98-97.
Pau Gasol, even though Howard mocked his lack of lift on an earlier dunk, got up just high enough to distract Detroit's Andre Drummond on a last-second alley-oop chance for Detroit — and led the Lakers with 23 points and 10 rebounds.
Metta World Peace wasn't afraid to assert himself physically even in the house where he endured his most infamous moment going into the stands to fight in 2004 — bringing the energy on a day when relieved Lakers coach Mike D'Antoni said after surviving: "These are playoff games for us."
Kobe Bryant's alley-oop inbounds pass from midcourt to Earl Clark before and Bryant's steal and hammer slam on Pistons guard Brandon Knight after halftime triggered two wild– and rare — team-bonding moments of celebration. In another poor shooting outing as Bryant tries to prioritize teammates' shots over his own rhythm, Bryant powered to the basket for the go-ahead three-point play with 1:09 left.
"My heart's racing right now," D'Antoni said afterward.
The Lakers escaped with the victory without Howard, who rested his sore right shoulder. The Lakers have now won consecutive games with Gasol but without Howard, even though they were 0-3 earlier this season without both.
Despite Detroit missing newly acquired point guard Jose Calderon because of work visa delays and appearing to have its spirit broken in the third quarter, the Lakers did what they do lately and lost focus after starting well. They blew an 18-point lead because they couldn't keep up with jitterbug Will Bynum,who kept going to the rim — which left Bryant thinking about how "they think twice about that" if defensive stalwart Howard is standing in the paint.
Still, Bynum's shot from the paint over Gasol went in and out, and the Lakers held on even though Steve Nash — who had been 39 of 41 for the season on free throws — missed two in the final seconds with the Lakers ahead by one point. Nash's relief at not costing his team a much-needed victory in the chase for a playoff spot was undeniable.
"I choked two up there," Nash said. "A win is a win, but I take a lot of pride in being a fourth-quarter player and making shots, particularly free throws. I take responsibility there, and I didn't come through for the guys tonight. But luckily it didn't kill us."
Nash did register 11 points and 10 assists and executed two key plays with Gasol for the Lakers' only late points besides Bryant's three-point play.
Howard did not play Sunday in Detroit because of lingering pain in his right shoulder, and he wasn't sure he'd return Tuesday in Brooklyn either.
"It feels a little bit better, but still sore," Howard said Sunday. "Certain movements hurt, and I don't want to go there in any pain or go out there thinking about it too much."
Howard aggravated the torn labrum Wednesday in Phoenix. It wasn't the first time, and the pain fades after each aggravation, but Howard remains leery of another incident.
"It's still not there yet," he said. "I'm not going to try to rush myself back and have the possibility of hurting it again. There's no need for that."
Howard had a platelet-rich plasma injection into the shoulder Saturday. That treatment isn't expected to provide immediate relief, but Howard's shoulder has naturally felt better in days after each aggravation. The tear isn't going to go away whether he takes a game, a week or the rest of the season off.
"Me and Kobe play two different positions," Howard said. "The position I play, I use a lot of force coming up — whether that's going up for a dunk or a shot. Hook shots, all that stuff, is this motion right here. It's a lot of that. Playing in the post is doing this a lot.
"All that stuff, you need your shoulder stable for it. It's a little bit different than, I would say, a guard position. You've got guys 260-270 you're holding off. You've got to be really strong in your shoulder and all that stuff."
Howard said it hurts him raising his arm up and especially backwards: "A lot of movements I'd be doing in games, trying to block shots, stuff like that." Lakers coach Mike D'Antoni acknowledged that Howard should try to work on not bringing the ball down so low under the basket, which is how opponents have hurt the shoulder repeatedly. Howard said he needs to be in a "stable" position to decrease the chance for aggravation.
D'Antoni said previously this seven-game trip will be the "telling tale" of the Lakers' season. About Howard not playing Sunday, the third game of a previously 1-1 trip, D'Antoni said it was "his call." About the labrum tear, D'Antoni said: "It's not going to go away."
Howard can try to strengthen the muscles in the shoulder to decrease the possibility of aggravation. Asked about playing in Brooklyn, when he would be more needed to go up against All-Star center Brook Lopez and the 28-19 Nets, Howard was noncommittal.
Asked if he is viewing offseason surgery as an increasing possibility, Howard said: "I don't even want to think about surgery."
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Seven Media have taken a massive swipe at Foxtel claiming their pay TV is expensive and "8 year old technology". The claims were made at the offical launch of the new HD TiVo PVR which comes with no subscription fee and superior software for the recording of free to air TV.
James Warburton Director of Sales for the Seven Network claims that 70% of Australians have turned their back on Foxtel and that 60% of Foxtel customers are paying a monthly fee to record free to air TV which with a TIVO offering which will only cost a $699 one off fee for the outright purchase of a TIVO unit from a Harvey Norman store from July 29th.Seven Media General Manager for Hybrid Television Services Mark Hughes claims that over the next few months the TIVO will be expanded to offer additional channels as well as movies and documentaries. They have also said that they are in discussions with both the ABC in Australia and the BBC in the UK as well as several other leading content providers to deliver new content.
"We are currently in discussions with several content providers and we have already built the backend structure that is needed to deliver content such as movies and content from third party providers. Our initial plan is to give consumers a significantly better recording and management experience of free to air TV and then follow this up with addition services".James Warburton said "While the service will be advertising free initially, we do plan to run banner advertising inside content going forward. For the consumer they only pay a one off fee of $699 and no ongoing subscription fees".Seven Media say that all free-to-air television networks' digital channels in Australia will be available on the new PVR.
As FTA broadcasters create more compelling, interactive digital television offerings delivering more choice, more services and more content - the TiVo proposition becomes a compelling case to 70 per cent of Australians who chose free over pay television.
The TiVo Service will be available across Australia and will include internationally recognized TiVo features, including Season Pass recordings and Wish Listâ"¢ searches and allow users to access broadband content on their televisions. Through its partnership with TiVo, Seven is deploying TiVo's leading interactive advertising capabilities that will lead to new integrated interactive advertising strategies.
TiVo in Australia was announced today by Mr David Leckie, the Chief Executive Officer of Seven Media Group, and Tom Rogers, President and CEO of TiVo.
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In Egypt for an internship, Michelle Hu's friend was killed when he went to take pictures of the protests.
INDIANAPOLIS -- Michelle Hu lives on an island on the Nile River, two miles from where violent protests are unfolding in Egypt's Tahrir Square.
It's an island that, for now, has made the 21-year-old government student at Harvard an unintended prisoner, afraid to venture out as protesters clash over the removal of Egyptian President Mohammed Morsi.
The tumult has hit her hard, too.
She was messaging her close friend Andrew Pochter, 21, when she heard about an American who was killed in Alexandria on June 28. She wrote she was glad she didn't goto Alexandria and that she was worried about him.
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"I didn't receive a response," Hu, a Carmel High School graduate, told The Indianapolis Star in an exclusive interview by email.
Then someone informed her, the American who was stabbed by a protester and later died at a military hospital was Pochter.
"It's so tragic that some crazy people singled him out for who he was, without knowing the love and passion he had for their country and culture," she said.
Hu said she thinks Pochter was singled out because he was not Egyptian. She said it's safer for her to go out with a scarf and sunglasses on because it makes her appear local. Sometimes, she said, the protests can turn anti-American because the United States had supported Morsi.
Protesters have gathered in Tahrir Square since June 27, intent on getting Morsi to step down. Wednesday, Egyptian defense minister Abdul Fatah Khalil Al-Sisi declared Morsi's rule over.
Morsi refused to abdicate. He was elected president after Egyptian leader Hosni Mubarak was deposed in 2012.
Reports late Wednesday indicated that Morsi was taken into military custody.
Some protesters were already celebrating earlier that day. Hu said she witnessed military helicopters flying with Egyptian flags over Tahrir Square and could hear cars honking. In the distance, she said she saw fireworks light up the sky.
Hu and Pochter, of Chevy Chase, Md., became friends on a 2010 trip to Morocco, after bonding over their mutual love of Middle Eastern culture.
She arrived in Egypt on June 26, two days before Pochter was killed. She is an intern for Microsoft Egypt and lives in an island region called Zamalek, which is between Cairo and Giza on the Nile. She described her area as safe for her to walk around freely.
Venturing across the river to see the protests, however, is a risk she's not planning to take, not after what happened to Pochter.
"When I found out about Andrew, I stopped leaving the immediate area of my apartment," said Hu, who plans to remain in Egypt until the end of August. "I could never make my family and friends feel the same way that I feel now about Andrew."
Hu's parents, who still live in Carmel, declined to be interviewed, but Hu said they have told her they are worried about her safety. Friends have posted on her Facebook page, wishing her well.
She said she thinks things will calm down in the coming days, as people go home to be with their families for Ramadan, a monthlong holiday observed by Muslims that begins Tuesday.
From talking to Egyptians, she characterized them as ecstatic. They see the leadership change, she said, as the next step in reforming and improving their democracy.
"They were concerned about the path Egypt was going down -- especially the inability of the government to protect minorities' rights and the freedom of speech," Hu said. "They didn't expect the economy to be fixed within a single year, but for democratic values to be upheld."


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Red 5's Mark Kern is back with his bi-weekly column here at MMORPG.com. In this week's article, Mark continues the discussion started in his last article about the death of quest hubs. He moves on to "what comes next". See what this industry insider has to say before you leave your thoughts in the comments.
In my last article, I talked about the death of quest hubs and Guild Wars 2, which generated 258 comments (the geek in me wanted it to stop at a crisp 256, but alas, it was not to be). I had argued that Guild Wars 2's more organic approach of discovering content through exploration and dynamic events, rather than being led by the nose through quests and hubs, was going to prompt a sea change in how MMOs get designed in the future. Many of you agreed, and yet many argued that Guild Wars 2 had not done enough to make the claim that it had truly reinvented the genre. So if Guild Wars 2 is still "grindy" to some, still not dynamic enough for others, then what *would* be the true next step? I think Guild Wars 2 has opened the door to a lot of fresh thinking, so let's explore.
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open world sandbox games end of...
Themepark has been dead for me for ages.. GW2 did not bring anything new, sure it did thigns a tiny bit different but its the same old thing..
Instead of quest hubs with numerous quests to do, you get a map with 10-20 heart quests.. oh wow how amazing and different is that.. instead of interacting with NPCs you now just get the quest when your near the heart.. wow thanks..
So called dynamic events are not really that dynamic and are just basically heart quests that are not active al lthe time.. this has been done before...
at the end of the day people like GW2 and fair enough im happy for them but to be it really didnt bring anything good to themepark mmorpgs..
Anyway has i stated at the start..
Openworld sandbox MMOs should be the future.. im not saying that they have to be full loot hardcore PVP games (some should be of course).. but its quite clear that themeparks are boring as hell and most people want somthing different..
Themeparks haven't been sustainable ever since one of them grew to the size of the entire "niche" of the Themepark genre.
In other words, ever since WoW consumed the entire Niche market for Themeparks it has become impossible to maintain any other themepark in order to compete on an even playing field.
Think about it, Themeparks REQUIRE content to be created by hand by Developers which takes several times as much resources to do as opposed to "Emergent" gameplay that is prolific within Sandbox & Sandpark titles that require a much MUCH smaller portion of development resources to maintain & create.
Sandboxes & Sandparks are far more profitable, sustainable, and all around cheaper to produce. The only real difficult part is choosing a specific Sandbox "vision" to use and then move forward. Your largest hurdle with sandboxes & sandparks is getting the core mechanics & "Idea" behind the product down first before building upon it.
This is what most Indie companies suffer from, a lack of direction. Almost ALL Sand-based MMOs (Sandpark / Sandbox) have more than enough "Vision", but not enough resources and direction to generate a proper MMO. Mortal online lacked both funds & skill, but had the direction & vision they required to produce a quality product. Hence Mortal Online doing so terribly.
Likewise with Darkfall Online, etc etc.
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the "tools" developers need are available right now. I call them players. If you have a small subset of players that can "spawn" events (not to say they cant spawn in other ways) they become dynamic because theres an unpredictable brain behind it.
the trick to making it all happen is open world pvp, where you make the "evil" side so difficult and unforgiving to play only few play that style compared to the many that will choose the easier style within the same game. I call them the villians.
if you combine this with sandbox style castle/wall/bridge/town building and lets players populate their areas with guards and such (within reason),
you have a recipe for a dynamic world.
My only concern is, will the AI ever be good enough to replace or come close to the quality of a DM? I'm not so sure, at least not so sure in my lifetime. What you are proposing is moving back towards the classic roleplay experience of pen n paper and the truly mysterious nature of anything can happen.
I'd love to see this kind of stuff; just not sure the technology is there. For all the "dynamic" of GW2's DEs, the mechanics began to show pretty early on. So I think we are still a long way away from this.
I think a quicker way to achieve some of this is player-created content. If the genre could somehow bring the GM (ala Neverwinter Nights) into a sandbox, we might have something there.
Originally posted by Eir_S
I agree that even better dynamic events are the future, GW2 just opened the door a little wider. Time is certainly a factor I haven't seen used in their implimentation yet. Good ideas, Mark! It's exciting to think about. Quest hubs had their time in the sun.
Huh? How did they open the door wider? I saw the exact same thing in Warhammer and then Rift.....
How about these things:
1. Meaningful endgame progression
2. Cool skills/abilities
3. Class balance
4. Not grinding the same dungeon over and over
5. Quaggan as a playable race
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Everytime I log in everyone camps the same events. Quest hub has gone from get quest go kill to wait for DE and mobs come to you.
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Originally posted by Eir_S
I agree that even better dynamic events are the future, GW2 just opened the door a little wider. Time is certainly a factor I haven't seen used in their implimentation yet. Good ideas, Mark! It's exciting to think about. Quest hubs had their time in the sun.
Huh? How did they open the door wider? I saw the exact same thing in Warhammer and then Rift.....
No, you didnt. Sorry but I played WAR on and off since launch, and if you honestly think PQs and DEs are the same thing, I cant even begin to help you. Its like saying the new Lamborghini Gallardo is the same as a beat up old Geo Metro, because hey, theyre both cars.
Theres a reason why PQs in WAR are avoided like the plague, along with just about everything else having to do with PvE in the game.
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Originally posted by Tardcore
Well since I feel that if GW2 changed anything it was to move the MMORPG genre one step closer to the eSport gaming model, what I think is next is MOBAs. Easier and quicker to develop, wildly popular, fits in well with the BTP/FTP cash shop model.
Too true.
What changed? In the end, It's going to be just like many other MMOs. No, ANET didn't change much really. That title rests with two other companies. Activision and Turbine. Thanks to them, we now have this shallow FSCKD up shell that is left of a genre that grew too big for itself.
interesting, I like your ideas and hopefully GW2 will led to the death of the quest hub raid end game MMO. I am really curious to see what lies in the future of MMO's.
I get a kick out of it anytime anyone calls a game a WoW clone when WoW was just a polished up EQ1. For me WoW was a step up from EQ1 and now GW2 is now a step up the ladder from WoW. MMO's are a evolution, and I don't expect a major revolution in any give game. Look at it like cars, we didnot go from the model T to the Mercedes S class in one step. There were lots of little inovations along the way.
GW2 borrowed a lot of it's game and consolidated tghe best parts from lots of games, however to me it is the state of the art in MMO design at the moment. I am sure in 5 years it will alos appear dated just as WoW's core gameplay design is showing it's age. The age of the end game raid design is officialy now on it;s way to extinction.
I was talking with a freind on Vent this morning, he was grinding out the dailies in SWTOR while I was running up my guardian in GW2. Him and I would always run those dailies together a month or so ago. We had a system, knew every mob by heart and the only challenge was trying to beat our best time by a few seconds. I remarked to him that after GW2 I could never play SWTOR, LoTRO etc again because I feel their design is outdated now just as WoW made seem EQ1 dated and stale.
I miss DAoC
15 years later. I'm still getting go kill 10 rats quests.
Just because you change the numbers into a slide bar, and automatically give me the quest, it doesn't mean I'm not still getting more kill 10 rats quests.
beware, some game have tried a minimal, partial kind of "time evolution". lotro and coh for example, change the environment you find around you in certain part of the game based on some act you did.
It's really really limited, coh has (should I say had?) it just in (new) atlas park, in the first mission after the tutorial, and lotro only in some part of dunland based on your point in the epic history.
There is a lot that can improve beyond quests and dynamic events, true. But I just mentioned one of many possible ways we could change things.
When we made WoW, we looked around and said, let's make a themepark...but we could have chosen anything. There were so many types of MMOs before WoW, and Blizzard took just ONE of them and popularized it.
We can dig back and find lots of other ideas to mine and shape and polish as WoW did. I see lots of potential in online games if we can just take our WoW blinders off.
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The "AI Director" concept I first heard of used in relation to Left 4 Dead, where it supposedly spawned zombies according to how desparate the situation was, among other factors. I never really noticed it in that game, but I think that's the way it should be: you should feel like you're just playing the game, not feel like you're being directed.
The way I read this, it's like playing a dungeon crawler with a random map generator, only with an MMO and randomly generated events rather than maps. The problem I forsee is that if you want to make a massive world, you have to be generating these events for every single player at any given time, or restrict them to an area, both of which don't solve the time/money/repetition problem. What you'd need to do is shift away from the "individual that can group to take on huge world" to a more co-op/guild focused game where you HAVE to group up and form relationships to succeed. It puts off solo players, but it breaks up the userbase into more managable chunks that allow you to better plan events for them.
I don't know about anything else but I predict that GW2 has killed off the idea of exclusive gathering nodes. I think everybody will switch to shared gathering nodes except EVE Online, because EVE is always different. But everyone else will. And not just because people like not having to fight over nodes are hate having nodes ninja'd while they fight the mob but because the developers can better control how much a player can harvest from a node. If nodes as not shared then you have to spawn them faster so that others can come though the area and be able to harvest as well, at least in a reasonable time frame. If you share the nodes then you can make the respawn time much longer because everybody will get a crack at the node. Then you can space out the refresh long enough to discourage people from farming a small area.
It is a very small thing but that is also what makes the change safe and easy for other MMOs to transition to.
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Originally posted by Helleri
@OP As a Runescaper, I don't see the 'quests' in most MMO's as real Quests to begin with.
But the Quest as the only means to level is truly becoming an epidemic. Even if you don't believe them as true Quests, they are indeed Quests that is being used in Everywhere now. Thats why I think its a problem.
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Originally posted by ShakyMo
Vanilla wow had some good class quests, to get warrior stances, shamen totem, warlock pets etc..
For some bizarre reason they dropped them, always thought that was one if the better things in wow.
I think the totem quests were still in teh game last time i play.
They did not make more for obvious reasons ... it is more cost effective to make one quests for all players, instead of just some players that play a certain class. That is the same reason why they have 3 levels of difficulties in raids.
Originally posted by Lucioon
Quests in Pen and Paper RPG, and Single player games work because you can start and finish it whenever you want. Either with a group of friends when playing PnP, or by yourself. But in MMO, Quests are shorten so that other players you meet during your quest can join in without being left out., or they become Instanced Quests that only people at that certain stage can join in. How many times have you, yourself try to play with your guildmates but found out that they are two stages ahead of you in the quest, or you are ahead and have to wait for them. So my question is, are Quests still viable in Modern Day MMO's Are they the only way to get Progress within a story? Guild wars 2 changed the quest system alittle, so that as long as you are in the vicinity, the quest automatically goes into your log, so anyone can jump in and participate. But is that as far as we can take it? Can Quests be eliminated all together? What kind of alternatives is available?
I do not see how making quests more accessible is progress. The idea that anyone else can do the quest that I am on or that I can do the quest that anyone else is on is just another step towards negating any differences between players.
Quests that progress stories could be linear, such as being able to do one quest after the next. One quest is a prerequisite to do the next quest and this could continue for some time to complete one story. Most quests do not tell stories. They are just there for you to play fetch and be led along by the nose. Quests that tell stories could be totally soloable or require groups to complete. If the quests are soloable then who cares if you want to play with guildmates or not. It's a superfluous question if you don't NEED quildmates. If a quest is meant for groups then there will always be someone somewhere who also needs to do the quest to progress, since they will have to do it to progress the story too. Or the guild could hold an event for one night every week where they do a certain quest that people need. This promotes group conent way more than making quests for accessible for anyone to do.
Originally posted by muffins89
Originally posted by Quirhid
Well, events in GW2 are a promising step forward, but even when they have no traditional quests at all in that game, I see the tasks ("heart symbols") as a step between quests and events. I don't see traditional quests enjoying much popularity in the future, atleast not in the traditional form. Heavy quest grinding gets exhausting fairly quickly. Alteast I had an unpleasant reaction to the Continent of the Ninth's excessive use of trivial miniquests for what felt like everything you did. Didn't like that at all... Arenanet talked about having multiple end states in the events (more than pass/fail), with which you could build elaborate webs of events rather than just separate strings of events (which are essentially a form of quest-lines). However, the downside to this would be the same as with all branching content: it takes a lot of effort to produce those alternate paths. Still, I wouldn't mind using quests for a more long term goal or objective - only a few active at any given time.
i disagree that events are a "promising step forward". they are nothing more than traditional quests in a different wrapper. i played gw2 today and an event i did was escorting a lady around while she collected fruit. i would rather collect the damn fruit myself. DE's in gw2 are just kill x, gather x, go to x, quests presented a different way.
quests are still viable imo. they've just become to trivial and meaningless. give me a quest that is an actual QUEST. make me travel a great distance. make the quest take days to complete. make me complete many smaller quests in order to complete the main quest.
Yes Sir
I think questing is a useful mechanic in MMORPGs. However, I think there are design issues with quests being too quickly completed.
For example, to you, which would be the most tedius?
1. 5,000 quests to level cap.
2. 500 quests to level cap.
I'm of the opinion that reducing the number of quests but increasing their value would be a step in a positive direction.
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I think quests should be a bit more dynamic.
Lets say an NPC needs some ingredients gathered from the woods. Well, you go gather the ingredients, and turn them in. Well, the NPC no longer needs any more of that ingredient, so there's a global cooldown on that particular quest, but the NPC has a bunch of other ingredients that need gathered, so you, or some other people gather other ingredients and whatnot. If the NPC has no more tasks, no problem, there are more NPC in the area who do.
So essentially, it makes it a bit more intereting and a bit more challenging.
Questing is good. I like getting entangled in some awesome spanning plot that drives me to do things. Stepping outside of the box in quest design is good too. Perfect World had a really awesome quest type, for example. They were platforming quests that you'd find in a city. You had a certain amount of time to get to a chest and loot it. But the chest wasn't just sitting in some really easy to path to place, most times you had to do it over and over trying to even find a way to scale the terrain up to it. One had me jump from a box to a tent to a rooftop then leap over a few fallen pillars and catch a broken section of wall before I could leap up to the catwalk the chest sat on. It was fun, it took you away from the kill x mentality for awhile and let you really appreciate the world and how much thought went into the city itself.
EDIT : Entangled not Intangled. How in the sunny hell did that one slip by me and my spellcheck??
Quest are ok in games, but what we call quests in mmorg are side quest in sp games. When a sp game has 50 side quests for each smal part of the main story you tend to get tired of em. Its the same for mmorpg.
Another problem with questing in mmorpg is how unfriendly they are to do as coop/group, the system realy want you to do em alone and it works a little against the purpose of mmorpg. We all like to be able to solo em now and then, but alot of us also want to have company when we do em.
Not for me. I just get bored from them. The problem for me is that quests aren't built to be about the experience, but rather the goal which is kill 10 rats and earn a load of loot and xp. The experience for a rat infestation shouldn't be to kill 10 and gather stuff, it should be to solve the rat problem for a very very long time and move on to the next "quest" or leave the locals to deal with it on their own. A world that is big enough won't require me to solve every single problem every NPC faces.
I suppose in the end I want my game to impact the world and tell me a shared story with other players where the world changes. Quests as they are today sidestep that technical problem by providing the same infinite problems with infinite rewards and not a heck of a lot of substance in-between... because it's easy to do.
Perhaps I ask for the impossible.. ah well.
Enter a whole new realm of challenge and adventure.
I think they are still a good concept.
If you want a good story arc for the players to follow, setting up a quest chain to show you that is a good game mechanic.
Whether the player personally play video games for a story or not is a seperate issue.
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Originally posted by BadSpock
But also give me entire zones (large areas) of group-only kind of old-school grind content. Let me form up with a party and grind mobs for a while in addition to everything else. Allow kills to drop tokens used to spawn mini bosses for your group with better loot, and then allow these mini bosses to drop tokens used to spawn bosses for my group. And then give me huge, wide open large (massive) swaths of land with powerful creatures that roam it, tons of caves and temples and open world dungeons etc. to explore solo and/or with a group, and rare crafting materials to hunt for.
Something like this?
Originally posted by FrodoFragins
I think someone can come up with a system that makes GW2 DE's actually fun and feel less scripted. You fight, you kill, you improve, you help your faction and you level. But in a way that doesn't feel like a grind or like a cycle of DE's in each zone.
The GW2 DE system is a unique mechanic and their flaws is showing right now.
Being 'the first' has its advantages but also its disadvantages.
No doubt we'll see an iteration of the DE system from other MMOs which will hopefully match what people want.
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September 16 2011 12:50PM
A bead of sweat trickled down the side of Shawn Horcoff's face as he addressed the media for the first time in the 2011/2012 season. He had just wrapped up his medical, but I couldn't help but wonder if that bead of sweat also represented how he felt about his team.
Entering his second season as captain, Horcoff has to be feeling some pressure to ensure his team improves on their 30th place finish. He won't have to carry the leadership role alone this year with the addition of Ryan Smyth, Eric Belanger, Andy Sutton and Ben Eager, but as captain he is still the first guy to face the music and there will be more pressure and expectations this season.
"The last couple years were the most trying of my pro career by far, from both as a team in the standings and the injuries that I've had," said Horcoff. "I hope they are behind me. I'm healthy, and we've had a long offseason. I'm looking forward to building off where I started last year.
"In terms of a team, a realistic goal for us has to be trying to make the playoffs. The only way to get these young kids ready, develop them for the next level and make them become better players is they have to play in big games. They have to play important games in March, sometimes February, because that's a whole other level when you are battling for the playoffs."
It is clear the Oilers want to be in the playoff hunt come February, and they better be, or the management and coaches will be on the hot seat. Having spoken with Steve Tambellini, Tom Renney and many others within the organization this week it is clear they have higher expectations and they recognize that it is time to start climbing towards respectability again.
Renney won't be as patient this year as he was last and Horcoff feels his coach should have more outlets to find success.
"I think one thing Tom is going to have this year is we are pretty deep up front, especially our top nine forwards. Even though we are young there is some offensive talent there. As players you'd like to find some chemistry, especially early in camp, and later in camp you want to start playing with the guys you are going to start the season with to try and build that chemistry."
No word yet on who is playing with who tomorrow. I spoke with Horcoff, Ryan Smyth, Gilbert Brule and Sam Gagner and none of them had yet to see who they were skating with. They will find out later this afternoon, but I could sense they were all excited to see who they'd start with.
Horcoff won't be playing with Eric Belanger, but he feels the free agent signing will make a huge impact on faceoffs.
"It's going to nice to have him. He is proven to be a good guy in the faceoff. If you are going to be a good team you need at least two guys who can go. It is to hard for one guy to carry that. They are hard minutes in the D zone, to go out there and battle and then come back to the bench, so you don't get the rest that your linemates do. On top of that you can't just count on two guys. All of our centremen need to improve on where we were last year."
Unlike last year, where the motto of camp and the season was to be patient, this year they will have some realistic expectations to compete. The long road to being competitive starts tomorrow on the ice, and Horcoff plans on making that point clear very early.
"Our guys need to know what it takes to win. We have to find that early, even in the preseason, and build on it. Losing can't be acceptable this season."
- Ales Hemsky will skate tomorrow, but he won't take part in any contact drills for at least another week. His shoulder needs another week and they don't want to rush anything. He won't play in the first four preseason games this coming week.
- Draft picks Samu Perhonen, Frans Tuohimaa, Travis Ewanyk (shoulder injury), Dillon Simpson (NCAA) and Oscar Klefbom (coming off injury, committed to his SEL contract) will not be in camp.
- The Oilers will have six goalies in camp. Khabibulin, Dubnyk, Danis, LeNeveu, Bunz and Roy.
- They have 18 D-men. Whitney, Gilbert, Smid, Barker, Peckham, Sutton, Petry, Chorney, Tuebert, Plante, Potter, Blain, Davidson, Fedun, Gernat, Marincin, Motin and Musil.
- And 35 forwards: Horcoff, Smyth, Hemsky, Hall, Eberle, Paajarvi, Gagner, Omark, Belanger, Jones, Eager, Brule, Hordichuk, Nugent-Hopkins, Lander, Hartikainen, Tyrvainen, Petrell, Vande Velde, O'Marra, Abney, Arcobello, Cornet, Czerwonka, Hamilton, House, Keller, Kytnar, Martindale, Pelss, Pitlick, Rajala, Rieder, Tremblay and former Oiler Josh Green.
- As of 1 p.m. the players didn't know which session they would be with tomorrow or their linemates. They will find out later this afternoon.
****Kirill Tulopov is also going to be at camp. There will be a few more guys on tryouts as well. ***
September 16 2011, 07:41PM
@ QSB and the team came in 30th with Hall, see the problem with your logic?
Give him 2 yrs and he'll be a different player, he'll be setting the pace on this club. He can't do it with the few players around him that'll still be here 5 yrs from now. They need to pick up the pace on this out with the old, in with the newer breed.
September 16 2011, 09:50PM
One game v. rookies isn't enough of a gauge to suggest he will be great at main camp. He is great against that quality of competition, but NHL is a much different league.
He will likely get a half game, maybe more and then go to junior. He is a few years away from being an NHLer....No need to rush based on one excellent game.
Truth is Bunz is right on schedule. If his NHL rookie season is 2013-14 backing up Devan Dubnyk, and Dubnyk gets a boatload of experience in the next two seasons then our goaltending issues should be shored up.
I want to meet the man who is an Oilers fan and thinks we're not on track with forwards.
The main concern is defense. However, I don't think the current D is as bad as they're made out to be, and with the prospects in the cupboards I expect the D to improve exponentially with every season.
From what I've heard of Griffin Reinhart he should be our first round target. Obviously being an Oil King is a huge bonus, but complimentary-wise to what we'll have in three years I think he would be a great fit.
Klefbom=good Marincin=good Teubert=good (role player defenseman) Gernat=better than expected Musil=good Dillon Simpson=you don't get invited to WJC training camp if you're not an exceptional player!
Plus, Whitney, Peckham, and just what if Cam Barker works out? He was a third overall pick, and he's still young.
And here's another thing that is going to help, that has already started happening; players will start wanting to play here as they see the potential beginning to unwrap. Better players every year. We'll be able to focus on developing 3 or 4 franchise defenseman, and sign depth UFA defensemen.
There's a million things that could happen to make this not work out; but I think a solid plan and foundation are in place.
I'm seriously considering buying an Eager jersey. We've needed 'that guy' for so long!!!
A realistic goal should be to win 10 more games and overtake Columbus for 13th spot.
Problem is, Columbus addressed their team needs in the offseason by acquiring Carter and the Wiz.
Oh, well, Colorado doesn't look too hot unless Landeskog is the real deal.
Maybe 14th is doable.
September 17 2011, 01:42PM
They are better off with him than without him (assuming nothing in return) based on him treading water with his previous year's performance.
The scary part is that his numbers, faceoff and offense, have been slipping pretty steadily for a few years now. The trend is not positive. He says he's healthy now, but we hear that almost every year.
It's only a matter of time before those skills dip below the needed level. The Oilers arent deep enough down the middle yet to survive a bad year from Horcoff. He needs to be good, at least until Gagner and RNH prove to be bonafide top 6 NHL centermen.*
*May not happen this year or ever, but we all hope
I have always been a Horc supporter, and think he is quality.
But you're right, and at some point you have to have players that play. If Horc isn't dealt soon, he's not worth moving.
He would be a great mentor, but I don't think he can play many more years, and especially at an acceptable level to teach much. We'll see.
Same for Whitney. He's great, but I don't like his chances of staying less injury prone as he approaches 30 after two reconstructive surgeries.
I would look to move him for a young top pairing D, who would have to be an NHL player, not a prospect. If he does stay healthy, it might be possible to a team trying to make the playoffs or with a shot at contending. A lot of teams need the playoff revenue and will deal the future for short term success. Not that he isn't really good, just that I would hedge my bets with Whitney's feet.


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Finally, there's official support for Google Sync in S60 via Mail for Exchange. I haven't been syncing my calendar on the E71 as much since it required me to manually sync via GooSync after NuevaSync stopped working for me. Now I can have calendar sync automated again. Good times.
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And just when you thought things wouldn't even get any worse....
And just when you thought things wouldn't even get any worse....[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that was just Wow. Actually speechless/ typeless from a chapter, Wouldn't expect any mangaka to be this cruel to their characters. That was just so wrong.
There are more things in heaven and earth then is dreamt of in your philosophy
^ Yeah... This is becoming more and more depressing... Now talking about this new monster, I think that he is a higher evolution of the giants and not one of the humans who can transform into giants... since he isn't aware at all about the equipment the humans are using. Who knows, he might even choose to ally himself to humans and fight against those giant transforming ones... What really intrigues me is the giant mention in the journal of a female soldier... the one who choose not to eat her... I forgot the exact chapter...
Surprised no one noticed the 2 releases at once. Chapters 36, 37 out for a while now. Just wow. This manga is just getting ridiculous, and I mean that in the most positive way; as in wish this addictive reading would come out weekly. 1st chapter not as interesting as the second, but the 37 chapter definitely makes up for it. Good reveals and oh so many more mysteries/ questions unearthed. This also tells me this mangaka probably got enough plot/ info to last at least 200 more chapters so weekly releases seems like only way to see the end of this manga.
There are more things in heaven and earth then is dreamt of in your philosophy
Chapter 38 now released.
Really clever way of disproving something, and making a new point/ mystery.
Once again mangaka definitely don't like his characters at all. See a absolute slaughter in the immediate future for a lot of characters!!
There are more things in heaven and earth then is dreamt of in your philosophy
I think that ape like giant carries some sort of virus that turned the villagers into giants.
But what does that make him? A human turned giant that's stayed that way for hundreds of years? And how'd he get that ability no matter what he is?
Enough to grow hair over the centuries? Then why still come after the humans? That's a weird grudge to hold?
And if he's not a human- turned- giant, still why the grudge? With what we're beginning to learn of the wall, and it's holes, and lack thereof/ and the reverend and the basis of that church, I was finally beginning to get into/ used to the idea of this somehow being a human internal war with crazy tech and science, now it becomes something completely different...
.. And yet why would either/ any(say this because I think there is at least 2 more forces at work we haven't completely seen yet, like those in greatest power( government or scientists)) of these possible forces do this? Eventually they'll run out of humans to eat, for both possible antagonists, all this results in is the human race's extinction which seems like it would be completely detrimental to all possible enemies anyway?
There are more things in heaven and earth then is dreamt of in your philosophy
Chapter 39 now released.
Technically close to a month ago, so 40 should probably be released soon.
Not much plot wise or new information this chapter, but interesting action.
Last page really accurately described the chapter, and the manga in general. Think the mangaka really realizes how much he yo-yo's with his character's lives and really enjoys it. lol This will never stop ha.
There are more things in heaven and earth then is dreamt of in your philosophy
I heard that there is an anime adaptation in the production right now. Here you have a trailer:
Since I have already posted a link of the current chapter, I guess it's time for some theories .
First of, it was mentioned that the Titans bodies are much lighter than it seems (they seem to weight nothing), and that they shouldn't be able to move with their bodies like that (some have really bizarre proportions). What's more it was already mentioned (by that scientist of the top platoon) that what the people see, is not what it actually is and it looks like it because their brains are unable to perceive and properly comprehend and distinguish what it really is. Finally some Titans talk and there are humans who can transform into them.
Now, I will say it bluntly, Titans are Humans whit Telekinetic-like Abilities that simply lost control of their powers. Since those are powers that humans shouldn't have developed (probably some experiments or strange mutations), the human brain is unable to perceive and comprehend it completely as it is, so it shows it in the form of Titans. You ask why Titans ? It's simple, because it's the human brains that controls that power, thus obviously it would create form (shape that power), like muscles, bones, skin, etc. to which it already is used, rather than creating new ones. This would mean, that the Colossal Titans, are simply humans whose esper powers are simply far superior than the rest. They even tend to show a much better understanding and intelligence than other. Of course, since those are Telekinetic-like powers, there are some that can control it. What's more, they seem to have other powers as well, like regenerating their real bodies (thought it might only be a power that the Main Character posses, while the form of the Titan that people see is simply their power at work and not their real bodies).


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hey does anyone else think that the head of the council or whatever position he was in, looked remarkably like Hitler? anyone?
hey does anyone else think that the head of the council or whatever position he was in, looked remarkably like Hitler? anyone?
i'm pretty sure everyone's noticed
He must be the true villian of the story then. The Earl is just ....misunderstood. haha
[One Piece] Shanks = Portgas D. Shanks (Ace's Dad)
....yes, Malcolm looks like Hitler in some way (despite being more slim and have a better body building...and is taller...definitely xD). Remarcable that Hitler was just born around teh time of DGM.
He mustn't be the villain of the story, only a capable-for-corruption higher-up. Look at all the military in FMA, the leader was evil, okay, but the other higher ranked military personnel weren't exactly on Edward's side.
Anyway...that guy's creepy and is compared to a snake....says quite a lot in my opinion....
He IS Hittler. Just look at him ...
BTW the guy that's with him looks like a REALLY UGLY version of Yuu (<3)
In SOME ways he IS Hitler...but again he isn't. Hitler was just born in DGM-setting.
You noticed too? xD Uglier more loyal version of Yu-kun <3Originally Posted by Cross Marian
If you have the necessary gaze...like Malcolm, then yes...xDOriginally Posted by 12LetterName
I dunno... I only can say that Malcom is soo damn ugly! and he is gonna be a villian in the story... Allen is going to become a rebel of the organization to figth malcom, I bet.


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Skip to comments.Karl Rove, 100+ GOP Donors Send Letter to Republicans Urging Immigration Reform
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Karl Rove, 100+ GOP Donors Send Letter to Republicans Urging Immigration Reform
by Tony Lee 30 Jul 2013, 6:18 AM PDT post a comment
Karl Rove and more than one hundred Republican donors sent a letter to Republican members of Congress on Tuesday, urging them to pass a comprehensive immigration reform bill that would include, among other provisions, granting "legal status" to illegal aliens who meet certain criteria.
Anticipating that lawmakers will face resistance to the bill when they go home for the August recess, the letter marks the escalation of a campaign in which Republican leaders and donors are pressuring House Republicans to act on an immigration reform bill.
The letter begins: We write to urge you to take action to fix our broken immigration system. According to the New York Times, those who have signed include Rove; "former Vice President Dan Quayle; Tom Stemberg, a founder of Staples; and Frank VanderSloot, the founder of Melaleuca Inc." Romney campaign finance director Spencer Zwick was also signed the letter.
The Times reports that Carlos Gutierrez, former Commerce Secretary for President George W. Bush and a founder of the Republicans for Immigration Reform super PAC, organized the effort. Gutierrez, who has said in the past that English should not be the official language of government, said the letter was "the beginning of a campaign to lobby Republican lawmakers in favor of a broad immigration bill as they return to their districts for the August break."
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Karl Rove has gone batsht crazy.
The choice is theirs. Money or votes.
If they get the money but no votes they lose access to the money.
The question is who is really behind the money. Must be those that want R's to LOSE the votes. Forever. And... ever.
Better get to sendin'em'at money then there, you 100 donors, because they are certainly going to need it, especially with the architect of Obama's two term presidency trying to drive, again.
Maybe the DNC wrote these letters using the stuff they've gleaned from conservative web sites.
It's easy with today's technology to fake a hundred letters..
Typical RINO, destroying Conservatisism by running his sick ideological thought through the media and the GOP. Rove needs to move to the third world.
Boy would I love to get this guy in a room and give him a lecture.
If he thinks these 100 donors are tough, he hasn't seen tough.
..... 100 plus donors eh? I don't know what the ratio is that that represents .... And I don't know about you but isn't that kind of a low number? Heck ..... If Rove figures that is a significant number I wonder what his reaction would be to tens or even hundreds of thousands of letters saying they are against Immigration reform?
We don't care who they vote for.
Just keep that cheap labor rolling across the border.
The GOP deludes themselves that participating in any amnesty bill will gain them Hispanic votes. These illegals will vote 90% Democrat no matter what and the Dems will give them all sorts of freebies to get them on the plantation just like they have for the Blacks.
Why am I even still voting? I used to think think people were nuts when they'd say 'all these guys are the same'. I think except for maybe the abortion issue they are the same. Just one big happy cabal swimming in their nonsense.
Where are all the "Rove - you magnificent bastard!" FReepers now? He's a snake and a sell-out who wants to preserve his insider status with the GOP-e at the expense of our freedom.
Choose the money and lose elections for the next generation, not just the base, but the 50+ Million new demonicrat voters. Rove and Co. would finish the working middleclass, who would find themselves jobless when a new cheaper labor force invades the market.
They sent me a very wordy "survey" with carefully worded questions that a real conservative would say yes to. Then the hit for donation.
I filled out the survey, sent it back on their dime and commented to them on the form to:
1. Quit giving lip service to the legitimate issues they bring up in their survey.
2. Adopt the Tea Party agenda and favored candidates or no money ever.
3. Say NO to any immigration reform scheme, enforce the laws and the Constitution.
4. Aggressively investigate the various scandals in full.
5. Absolutely defund obamacare in full and do it now.
6. Grow some balls and stop treating democrats as if they are friends, they are not; stop supporting Graham, McCain, the Bushes, and the rest of the spineless losers they have been promoting.
Now I don't believe they care what I wrote and if there is no money involved they will probably not consider any of my responses but at least they gave me the chance to flame their worthless asses.
100 people who write big checks are for amnesty.
Hundreds of millions of American Voters are against it.
Clear to see who has the upper hand in this battle.
Or is it?
This is good, this is good.....it gets the names out there for all to see.
And Romney's money is behind it as well....shows what kind of President he would have made.
There should be a network map of the entire GOPe that puts names, faces and business names as labels. This entire cabal of infiltrators needs to be suspended if not expelled from the rank and file of the GOP, else the GOP can die while a third party takes root.
Our immigration system has never been "broken" (which is Libspeak), it's been unenforced.
America's immigration system is the worst in the entire world.
We have gone mad.
Every other nation, has borders.
Every other nation, has laws.
Stop giving everything away.
No doubt these donors are folks who thrive on cheap labor. The American people know what is at stake here.
The way locals/ native texans including battlefield veterans get treated by Costco, grocery store, bookstore and movie house clerks and managers, in preferance to any Mexican - english speaking no english speaking, paing or mon paying, this is no surprise
Big business wants this
Lowes has gone to spanish language signs here and in florida at least
The kids have to defer to the Mexicans in school, filling out tests declaring their race. It is a racist system. The Latino/as get the scholarships. They all know it.
These kids' parents drive very good vehicles. Once a montg the kids are attending some $30,000 mexican debutante ball last month it was at the four seasons
Question is why is Rove given any air time
Why so we want to be a corporation and not a country with laws and a constitution to protect
The mexicans will take over with their culture in certain sections but big sections like staes like fla, texas and more and pur kids, the children also of the roves, bushes and their anthony weiner-level list but for money. Their progeny will be left flapping in the wund with no country
Retail corporate prostitutes allowed by RINOS and libs to destroy our country
The Demonrats, who likely will be in control into the unforeseeable future, would never do any of that. Come to think of it, Republicans probably wouldn't either.
Only 100??
And just what percentage of donors does that really make?
Less than 1% I bet, which means this is all about him and his views and has nothing to do with the party as a whole.
I wonder how many have sent letters warning they will dump the party completely if they sign it. Come on Carl, why not show both sides of the coin here and tell us that number as well!
If the GOP caves to these people, it needs to be destroyed, not reformed.
I assume that 90%+ of GOP donors pushing "immigration reform" are knowingly hiring illegals over legal American workers.
How many are fakes? Donating to Republicans is a cheap way to buy influence.
Like the girl holding the sign saying 'Racist and proud' turning out to be a liberal... and the lesbian who carved 'hate messages' into her own skin - and blamed white conservative men. Also a fake. That side - liberals - are made up of liars... and everything they do needs to be checked out against that standard.
It's just that many of us were persuaded he was on our side.
Direct link to the enemies list:
You are far more polite than I am-I was handed a "survey" by a neighbor who volunteers sometimes for our spineless state govt rep. I wrote "an amnesty vote = no money-I'm broke already-thanks a lot".
The GOP has officially moved from a slow-motion to a high-speed train wreck.
This is why he had Bush chasing after what he perceived as voting blocks--Soccer Moms (for Teddy Kennedy's Education Bill); Elderly Patients (for Federal Drug Coverage), etc..
Rove has never understood how to break the Leftist's hold on various groups, without trying stupidly to outbid the Democrats. There are other, principled, ways to appeal to all but the hopelessly corrupted.
The 2006 election demonstrated the absurdity of Rove's political "expertise." That he can still persuade wealthy businessmen to back his folly is sad; but it should not be allowed to mislead anyone who really cares about the American future.
William Flax
No more Overstock or Carls Jr. for me. That was the only 2 I recognized that I have done any biz with.
These scum are not genuine Republicans - - how xould they be? - - and if House Republicans are cowed by these efforts then they need to be scared absolutely poopless by the calls they get from serious constituents who have a distaste for the final dissolution of America that is being promoted by Rove and those other sick scumbags.
Amen. It would effectively be suicide.
Every time I see something like this I am so ready for a new party. Something to be proud of.
It was not so much politeness as limited comment space, on purpose I'm sure.
I agree that immigration ought to be fixed. And by fixed I mean ENFORCED.
How about these 100 GOP donors write a letter to the occupant in the Oval Office telling him to ENFORCE THE LAW?
Somebody is trying to challenge McConnell in a primary in Kentucky. Apparently he is a rock solid conservative. He would do better to run as an independent. The RINO establishment will back McConnell with their connections and money and only a miracle with defeat the old bastard.
But an independent run could destroy him AND THEM and start a new movement.
The GOP elites and the liberal Rs who fund them are dead to me.
Not even twitching. They need to thrown into the dust heap of history.
The GOP has officially moved from a slow-motion to a high-speed train wreck.
That's it in a nutshell. The Dems have gone to warp speed and the Rs are trying to catch up.
Very good points.
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Clermont extended their unbeaten record on home soil to 59 games on Saturday with a 39-17 victory over Top 14 champs Toulouse.
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With neither side under huge pressure to produce a positive result, the fans at the sold-out stadium were treated to four tries from the hosts and two more from Toulouse.
The highlight of the day however was Clermont's defence in the face of multiple waves of attack from the champs.
It wasn't all good news for Clermont, who lost skipper Aurelien Rougerie to injury after 15 minutes.
Clermont led 25-3 at the end of a catastrophic first half for Toulouse, whose errors cost them dearly despite their territorial domination.
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Toulouse captain Thierry Dusautoir and the insatiable Louis Picamoles pulled tries back for the visitors after the interval but a handful of penalties from Morgan Parra and Sivivatu's second score from long range in the closing minutes killed off any hopes of a comeback.
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Cons: Parra 2
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Clermont: 15 Lee Byrne, 14 Sitiveni Sivivatu, 13 Aurelien Rougerie, 12 Wesley Fofana, 11 Naipolioni Nalaga, 10 Michael Delany, 9 Morgan Parra, 8 Damien Chouly, 7 Gerhard Vosloo, 6 Julien Bonnaire, 5 Nathan Hines, 4 Jamie Cudmore, 3 Davit Zirakashvili, 2 Benjamin Kayser, 1 Thomas Domingo.
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Toulouse: 15 Clement Poitrenaud, 14 Vincent Clerc, 13 Yann David, 12 Gael Fickou, 11 Yoann Huget, 10 Luke McAlister, 9 Luke Burgess, 8 Louis Picamoles, 7 Thierry Dusautoir, 6 Yannick Nyanga, 5 Romain Millo Chlusky, 4 Gregory Lamboley, 3 Vasil Kakovin, 2 William Servat, 1 Jean Batiste Poux.
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October 30 2011 08:20PM
Jonas Gustavsson played very, very well through almost the entire game, but wound up allowing an absolutely Toskalian goal at 7:08 of the third period to sink the Leafs. That said, even though such a weak goal wound up being the difference, the Leafs had far from their best outing tonight, and blame cannot rest solely on Gustavsson's shoulders.
The game started off well, with a power play marker from Clarke MacArthur coming at 11:20 of the opening frame, but the Leafs' effort rather troughed between that point and the MacArthur's next goal at 9:07 of the third. Certainly, fatigue could have been an issue, but even though the Leafs have played 3 games in 4 nights, it's never easy to settle for a loss to the Senators.
The Leafs took three consecutive penalties to start the second period (four if you count Gunnarsson's penalty in the first), and wound up paying the price on the scoreboard. Tim Connolly took two of said penalties, one a particularly unnecessary call for extra-curricular activities right at the end of a very good shift. Overall, they were out-shot 13-9 in the first, and 12-7 in the second.
Toronto's penalty killing just isn't good enough. The Sens were 2 for 4 on the evening.
Well, 7-3-1 ain't bad.
The Good:
Most of Phaneuf's game. He played 29:18.
The Leafs' fourth line continued to check well and create chances. Can't say enough good things about David Steckel.
The Bad:
Dion Phaneuf and Luke Schenn missing Colin Greening sneak behind them for Ottawa's breakaway goal.
Luke Schenn only played 11:44.
Kessel goes pointless for the first time in ages. He didn't have a bad game, just a bummer that he didn't get one.
Matt Frattin: only 9:52 of ice time, and needs to learn to use his linemates.
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Jonas Gustavsson's third goal against. Woof.