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The SouthEastern Utah Off Highway Vehicle Club meets for the general membership on the first Wednesday each month at 7 p.m. They meet in the County Building in Castle Dale.
Another monthly activity is the club ride. The ride chairmen, Lee Swasey and Glenys Sitterud decide where to go and lead the ride. So far this year, the club has ridden Behind the Reef and Wickiup. The ride for June is scheduled for June 23 and will be off the point of Cedar Mountain. Everyone interested in riding should meet at the first cattle guard north of the Buckhorn well.
One important item discussed at the recent meeting was OHV courtesy and sharing the trails with cattle and sheep. This is the time of year when the cows and sheep are being trailed up onto the mountains. Cattle from the Ferron and Emery areas use the Rock Canyon Trail and the Hole Trail to gain access to the summer grazing areas.
SEUOHV Club requests all OHV users be courteous and obey the trail closures through herding season. The cows began to go up on the mountains using Rock Canyon on June 6 and should be done. The sheep that are going up that trail will begin on June 21. For courtesy reasons, riders should not use this trail during the livestock trailing season. The sheep should take two-three days.
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The Emery Spartans kept their perfect record intact last week with two big region victories, 77-58 over the Carbon Dinos and 59-51 over the Delta Rabbits, as the Spartans now stand 13-0 for the year and 2-0 in region play.
Before a big crowd in the Spartan Center, the neighboring Dinos brought their fans to Castle Dale for what turned into high school basketball at its best. Winning aside, this game was enjoyable as the rivals went at it on the court and their respective fans cheered them on and enjoyed the night. The gym was alive and exciting this night.
The first quarter of the game ended 9-6 as both teams were a little tight, as teams have a tendency to do when they play their big rival. Brandon Hansen's three personal fouls was the big stat in this quarter, as that would limit his play for a while.
Emery came alive in the second quarter as they outscored the Dinos by 10 points to enjoy a 34-21 halftime lead. Carbon was very physical in this half as they picked up 16 personal fouls. It seemed their game plan involved being very physical with Emery's ball handlers to try and throw them off their game.
Bowie Jeffs was seven for eight at the line in this quarter, as Carbon's tactics didn't seem to work. Curt Jensen had three big baskets to aid the Spartan attack.
Emery extended the lead in the third quarter to 56-39 as again they outscored the Dinos by four. Chandler Pearson had eight points in the quarter to lead the way.
Jeffs had 18 points, Pearson had 17 points, Seth Powell had 14 points, Jensen had 10, Hansen had nine and Mike Truman had six points. Mike Truman's forte this night though was rebounding as he had an absolutely huge game with 17 rebounds. In case you are wondering, the Emery record is 22 held by Shawn Bradley.
Before a hostile crowd at the Palladium in Delta, the Spartans outlasted the very physical Rabbits and some very strange officiating to bring home the victory.
Emery led 12-7 after the first quarter but saw the lead slip to just one at the half, 27-26. Chandler Pearson led the Spartans with 14 points in the half. Seth Powell took a hit to the head, probably an elbow, and did not come back to the court after the half. Some Emery parents took him to the Delta hospital and things should be okay.
Pearson and Jeffs had their way in the third quarter as they had 17 points between them and Emery opened up a nine point lead. Pearson had a good night as he finished the game with 26 points. Jeffs had only 15 points as he fouled out of the game midway through the fourth quarter with his fourth offensive foul of the night. Each of these fouls was as he drove for the lay-up and was hit scoring. Points were denied and the Emery fans were left scratching their heads. Strange officiating and Delta's gym living up to its reputation of being a hard place to play made it exciting but the Spartans got the win and stayed perfect. Emery is at home tomorrow night in a non-region game hosting the Wasatch Wasps. Game time 7 p.m.


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Paranasal sinus radiography; X-ray - sinuses
A sinus x-ray is taken in a hospital radiology department. Or the x-ray may be taken in the health care provider's office. You are asked to sit in a chair so that any fluid in the sinuses can be seen in the x-ray images. The technologist may place your head in different positions as the images are taken.
Tell your doctor if you are or think you are pregnant. You will be asked to remove all jewelry.
There is little or no discomfort with a sinus x-ray.
The sinuses are located behind the forehead, nasal bones, cheeks, and eyes. When the sinus openings become blocked or too much mucus builds up, bacteria and other germs can grow. This can lead to an infection and inflammation of the sinuses called sinusitis.
A sinus x-ray is ordered when you have any of the following:
A sinus x-ray is not ordered as often before. This is because CT scan of the sinuses shows more detail.
The x-ray may detect an infection, blockages, bleeding or tumors.
There is low radiation exposure. X-rays are monitored and regulated so that the lowest amount of radiation is used to produce the image.
Pregnant women and children are more sensitive to the risks of x-rays.
Anslow P. Ear, nose and throat radiology. In: Adam A, Dixon AK, Grainger RG, et al., eds. Grainger & Allison's Diagnostic Radiology: A Textbook of Medical Imaging . 5th ed. Philadelphia, Pa: Elsevier Churchill Livingstone; 2008:chap 62.
Aygun N, Zinreich SJ. Overview of diagnostic imaging of the head and neck. In: Flint PW, Haughey BH, Lund LJ, et al., eds. Cummings Otolaryngology: Head & Neck Surgery . 5th ed. Philadelphia, Pa: Elsevier Mosby; 2010:chap 11.


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TORONTO (April 17, 2012) – Canadian national men's volleyball team members Dan Lewis of Oakville, Ont., and Louis-Pierre Mainville of Notre-Dame-de-l'Île-Perrot, Que., are relishing a unique opportunity to connect with the best young athletes in their sport.
The pair were at a news conference Tuesday for the official launch of the FIVB Men's Volleyball World League and the 2012 Canadian Open Championships both set for the week of May 17-22 in Toronto at the Ricoh Centre and Direct Energy Centre.
''It will be very exciting to play in front of all the kids,'' said Lewis, just back from completing his pro season in Europe. ''It will be an unbelievable connection between the elite and the young athletes. It will be a great experience that we are all looking forward to it.''
Canada is making a return to the World League for the first time since 2007 after a sensational 2011 campaign in which they beat Slovakia and Puerto Rico to qualify. The World League offers the biggest cash prizes in the sport.
The World League matches are May 18-19-20 at the Ricoh Centre. Canada, ranked 18th in the world, faces its pool opponents Finland on May 18, world number-one Brazil on May 19 and world number-four Poland on May 20.
''To play in the World League means a lot to us,'' said Mainville. ''It's the most prestigious event in the world. We will be facing good teams, and it will be a great way to prepare for the Olympics.''
At the same time, the Canadian Open championships is expected to attract about 10,000 players, coaches and officials from across Canada with national titles in various age groups on the line for men and women. It is the largest volleyball event in Canadian history.
"Toronto will be left with a great legacy of volleyball,'' said Derek Kent of the Canadian Olympic Committee. ''We look forward to seeing all that can be done here in Toronto. The power of sport can transform our country. This is a must attend event when it comes here"For more information on both events and ticket info visit: www.volleyball.ca


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If you're eyeing the 7% slump overnight in Japan's Nikkei, here's something to consider. The surge in Japanese stocks, the big story in developed markets during 2013, was already a net sell at hedge funds starting late last month.
That's according to Societe Generale strategist Alain Bokobza, who writes to clients this morning:
[W]hile Hedge Fund[s'] net positions are still significant, momentum has begun to falter. Indeed, in the three weeks since 23 April, Nikkei positions have stopped strengthening. With the index now matching previous highs in US dollars (chart on right), we think the Nikkei is in need of a breather[.]
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Tab and Jackie Weihing of Huntington are announcing the marriage of their daughter Monica Rae Weihing to Dustin Marc Wardle of Nephi. The couple will be married June 11 in the Jordan River Temple. A reception will be held for family and friends in their honor at the home of Ramon Martinez of Huntington, June 12 from 4-6 p.m.
Monica graduated from Emery High in 2003 and is currently attending the College of Eastern Utah. Dustin graduated from Juab High School and later served a mission in the Canada Vancouver Mission for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Dustin attends CEU and is majoring in accounting.
Dustin and Monica will be making their home in Price while they get their associates degrees and then onto Logan to Utah State University.
Monica's grandparents are Ramon and Lorraine Martinez of Huntington and the late George and Arlene Weihing of Green River.
Julie Ann Anderson and Joseph Shaun Tomsich have chosen June 12 to be married at the Museum of the San Rafael. A reception will be held that evening in their honor from 7-9 p.m. at the museum.
Julie is the daughter of Lynn and Joan Anderson. Joe is the son of Shaun and Ima Jean Tomsich.
Because you have shared in their lives by your friendship and love, you are welcome to share with our daughter, Jennifer McKell Nielson and Jesse Drew Sitterud at a reception celebrating their new life together on June 11 at the Huntington Stake Center from 7-9 p.m.
Parents of the bride are Wayne and Teresa Nielson. Parents of the groom are Drew and Julie Sitterud.
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SANTO DOMINGO - It was another big day for Canada in men's competition on Friday at the third stop on the NORCECA beach volleyball circuit as both pairs scored victories in pool play.
Martin Reader of Comox, B.C., and Chaim Schalk of Red Deer, Alta., the heroes in Canada's victory against Cuba in the Continental Cup final on Wednesday, won 21-16, 21-17 over Roberto Rodriguez and Christopher Underwood of Puerto Rico. They added a 21-18, 21-11 victory over brothers Arnaldo and Alfredo Castro of Nicaragua.
Ryan Vanderburg of Toronto and Andrew Hinchey of London, Ont., defeated Giandro Tokaay and Quinten Anthony of Curacao 21-14, 21-18 and scored a 21-8, 21-14 win over Sherving Ranking and Olney Thompson of Cayman Islands.
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The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Agency's administrator is on the hot seat because of allegations of misconduct and abuse by bureau officials.
Sen. Scott Brown (R-Mass.) is asking the White House to fire NOAA Administrator Jane Lubchenco for her inaction after the Commerce Department's inspector general found mismanagement and potential fraud and abuse of millions of dollars in the agency's Fisheries Enforcement Asset Forfeiture Fund.
The Fisheries Enforcement Asset Forfeiture Fund is charged with overseeing fishermen and fisheries to ensure they follow laws and regulations.
Brown said failings of Lubchenco to discipline those involved in violating agency and federal procurement policy shows a lack of understanding of the situation.
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"The misconduct at NOAA is even more serious than that at GSA, as the NOAA scandals involve wasteful spending that was financed through abusive treatment of both our fishermen and [the] American taxpayer," Brown wrote in his letter to the President on April 13. "The Commerce Department Inspector General has documented that NOAA employees engaged in acts that we believe constitute deliberate breaches of the public trust and arguably the laws of our nation. Despite these multiple reports, no one at NOAA has been held accountable."
Brown said three senior GSA officials have either been fired or resigned and as many as 10 others are on administrative leave during the investigation of lavish spending at the Western Regions Conference in October 2010.
A request to the White House and to NOAA for comments on Brown's letter has not been returned.
The Commerce IG found in a November 2011 report that NOAA employees manipulated procurement rules to buy a $300,000 fishing boat, and used the boat on the weekend for personal purposes. The IG said a NOAA procurement attorney advised against buying the boat, yet they did so anyways.
Auditors found the employees used the boat for trips that totaled more than 100 miles and charged the government more than $12,000 for gas and docking fees. The IG also has found that since buying the boat, it has only been used for official purposes nine times in three years.
Brown said NOAA employees actually mislead the IG when they were questioned about the use of the boat by family and friends.
Brown said NOAA employees also tried to cover up the problems. He said Dale Jones, a former chief of NOAA law enforcement, shredded 75 percent to 80 percent of the files in his office during an active IG investigation into his office's conduct.
"Administrator Lubchenco has been even less forthcoming-she kept an IG report on the NOAA party boat secret until I requested it," he wrote. "Although she now claims to have tipped off the IG about the boat, the IG's report gives credit to an internal whistleblower, not Administrator Lubchenco."
Brown added the changes instituted by Lubchenco in the light of the IG report are not enough.
"[T]hese scandals came to light under Administrator Lubchenco's watch. Instead of cleaning house and restoring the agency's reputation with the fishing community, she has protected the wrongdoers," he said. "She has gone beyond all legal requirements in her protection of those who should be facing serious discipline. Given the opportunity to bring the agency back to health, she has chosen to keep bad actors in positions of power."
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Skip to comments.Giuliani leaving door open to White House run
Posted on 04/26/2011 4:50:23 PM PDT by Hawk720
Former New York Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani told The Washington Times on Tuesday that he is keeping the door open to a 2012 presidential bid, saying he might jump into the race if he believes the other candidates are unelectable.
Mr. Giuliani is slated to speak next month in New Hampshire, where he finished fourth among 2008 Republican presidential candidates in the first-in-the-nation primaries.
Im going to go to New Hampshire to speak to a law enforcement group, so thats really the main purpose of the speech, but I keep in contact with people in New Hampshire and try to figure out what kind of a chance I have, Mr. Giuliani said in an interview. At this point, Im not actively considering it, but I have the door open.
In New Hampshire, Mr. Giuliani will appear at a May 12 house party sponsored by the Granite Oath PAC of Ovide Lamontagne, whose failed 2010 U.S. Senate bid was supported by the tea party.
The Granite Oath PAC has held similar gatherings for two potential GOP presidential candidates, former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty and former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum, and is planning an event for former House Speaker Newt Gingrich later next month.
Mr. Giuliani said he was looking at other possible candidates as he weighs whether to mount a repeat bid.
What will factor into my decision is what kind of chance the people that are running have to win and beat President Obama, he said. I think its vital we have a different president in 2013.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...
Cabinet Position? Sure. Prez? Nah....
Looking more and more like 2008
Not a chance. On the other hand, they might as well try to run McCain again...
I wonder if he is going to skip all the early stuff and focus on Florida like last time. Yeah, that worked out real well for him!
Oh gaaaad.....
I like him, but for anything BUT president. Why doesn't he take on Schumer, and knock him out of office?
Don't let the door hit ya! Just stay out!
Forget it. He's a good guy, did what he said he was going to do while running for Mayor, but he let the libs destroy him where now he is seen as a Sammy Gravano. I mean his 2nd hand man Bernie Kerik, THE highest decorated cop in NYPD history, goes to jail for taxes and accepting A bribe, if you could even call it a bribe. How many people here check out if their contracters have connections to the mob? Yet Charles Rangel who did the same thing, if not worse, gets a slap on the wrist and is re-elected. Hey Rudy, why don't you try opening your mouth? If you can't handle pssy ass liberals in a city how are you going to handle psycho Muslims and China?
Romney, Christie, Guiliani. Just what we need: another northeastern liberal gun-grabber...
Memo to Rudy and Judi:
Let him join his fellow RINOs Trump, Romney and Huck. Conservatives will flock to Palin, West, Cain or Bachmann. Maybe Rubio but not convinced he isn't another amnesty cheerledaer.
Please run... away far, far away.
Giuliani the former US Attorney and Assistant Attorney General has just what it take it to Obama on the eligibility issue. Much more than Trump. He'd go from the worst to the first if he was effective.
LOL, I could only hope.
Big mouth ass clown Schumer would sh** a brick
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The 2012 election is not going to be about Obozo's eligibilty.
Whoever is the GOP nominee will focus on everything Obozo is doing to run this country into the ground.
The dream team of Rockefeller Republicans, aka. liberal Republicans.
Is this one of Lance Poobus's big surprises?
Nah.... He'd probably move on to be a lobbyist for a large bank or some hedge fund, and become wealthy beyond our wildest dreams, while screwing up the country nearly as much as he is now..... /puke
SecDef was my first thought as well...
When Trump declares himself a Texan...I'll vote for him.
Unfortunately, I think Giuliani expended whatever political capital he had on his crash-before-takeoff campaign in 2008.
His cabinet? He's got plenty of dresses in his cabinet. Ready to go. He's got his high heels on and is ready to run.
Someone tell this old guy his time in the sun has passed. He was good right after 9/11, but half the voters have forgotten it happened.
We need a new guy, maybe Paul Ryan, to run against Omama.
Rudy will be another guy who sees what will happen to him in a GOP primary and decide to say, "No thanks."
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Skip to comments.The Last Confessions of E Howard Hunt
Posted on 03/28/2007 11:29:12 AM PDT by meg88
Once, when the old spymaster thought he was dying, his eldest son came to visit him at his home in Miami. The scourges recently had been constant and terrible: lupus, pneumonia, cancers of the jaw and prostate, gangrene, the amputation of his left leg. Long past were his years of heroic service to the country. In the CIA, he'd helped mastermind the violent removal of a duly elected leftist president in Guatemala and assisted in subterfuges that led to the murder of Che Guevara. But no longer could you see in him the suave, pipe-smoking, cocktail-party-loving clandestine operative whose Cold War exploits he himself had, almost obsessively, turned into novels, one of which, East of Farewell, the New York Times once called "the best sea story" of World War II.
Diminished too were the old bad memories, of the Bay of Pigs debacle that derailed his CIA career for good, of the Watergate Hotel fiasco, of his first wife's death. But his firstborn son -- he named him St. John; Saint, for short -- was by his side now. And he still had a secret or two left to share before it was all over.
They were in the living room, him in his wheelchair, watching Fox News at full volume, because his hearing had failed too. After a while, he had St. John wheel him into his bedroom and hoist him onto his bed. He asked St. John to get him a diet root beer, a pad of paper and a pen.
There were a couple of days back in 1972, after the Watergate job, when the boy, then eighteen, had risen to the occasion. The two of them, father and son, had wiped fingerprints off a bunch of spy gear, and Saint had helped in other ways, too. He was E. Howard Hunt, a true American patriot, and he had earned his while serving his country. As he once said, "I had always assumed, working for the CIA for so many years, that anything the White House wanted done was the law of the land."
Now, in August 2003, propped up in his sickbed, paper on his lap, pen in hand and son sitting next to him, he began to write down the names of men who had indeed participated in a plot to kill the president. He had lied during those two federal investigations. He knew something after all. He told St. John about his own involvement, too. It was explosive stuff, with the potential to reconfigure the JFK-assassination-theory landscape. And then he got better and went on to live for four more years.
In the early days of the cold war, the CIA's mandate was simple: to contain the spread of communism by whatever means necessary; it was tacitly given permission to go about its dirty business unfettered by oversight of any kind. For much of the Cold War, it was answerable to no one. And if you were lucky enough to become one of its agents, you had every right to consider yourself a member of an elite corps, a big swinging all-American dick like no other. The middle-class son of a Hamburg, New York, attorney, E. Howard Hunt graduated from Brown University in 1940 with a bachelor's in English, joined the Navy during World War II, served in the North Atlantic on the destroyer Mayo, slipped and fell, took a medical discharge and wound up in China working under "Wild" Bill Donovan in the newly formed Office of Strategic Services. When the OSS was transformed into the CIA, Hunt jumped onboard. He loved action as much as he hated communism, and he soon began operating with a level of arrogance entirely typical of the CIA. He was instrumental, for instance, in planning the 1954 coup in Guatemala that overthrew the left-leaning, democratically elected president, Jacobo Arbenz, and ushered in forty years of military repression, which ultimately cost 200,000 Guatemalans their lives. Years later, when asked about the 200,000 deaths, E. Howard said, "Deaths? What deaths?" Like Saint says, he never felt guilt about anything: "He was a complete self-centered WASP who saw himself as this blue blood from upstate New York. 'I'm better than anybody because I'm white, Protestant and went to Brown, and since I'm in the CIA, I can do anything I want.' Jew, nigger, Polack, wop -- he used all those racial epithets. He was an elitist. He hated everybody."
In the early Fifties, his father could often be seen cruising around in a white Cadillac convertible; he loved that car. He also loved his cigars and his wine and his country clubs and being waited on by servants and having his children looked after by nannies. He was full of himself and full of the romantic, swashbuckling, freewheeling importance of his government mission. He had quite an imagination, too. When he wasn't off saving the world from Reds, he spent much of his time in front of a typewriter, hacking out espionage novels, some eighty in all, with titles such as The Violent Ones ("They killed by day, they loved by night") and I Came to Kill ("They wanted a tyrant liquidated, and cash could hire him to do it").
Wherever E. Howard was stationed -- he'd pop up Zelig-like in hot spots from Japan to Uruguay to Spain -- he and his family lived lavishly and well, all presumably to lend credence to his cover job as a high-ranking embassy official. One estate was as large as a city block, and one dining table as long as a telephone pole, with the parents sitting at distant opposite ends. Sadly, he treated his children the way he and the CIA treated the rest of the world. They were supposed to bend to his will and otherwise be invisible. God forbid during a meal one of them should speak or rattle a dish.
That same year, his father retired from the CIA after being relegated to the backwaters for his role in the Bay of Pigs. He went to work as a writer for a PR firm. He was bored and missed the hands-on action of the CIA.The following year, however, his lawyer pal Chuck Colson, who was special counsel to Nixon, called him up with an invitation to join the president's Special Investigations Unit as a kind of dirty-tricks consultant. He signed on. He really thought he was going places.
Around the time of St. John's Miami visit in 2003 to talk to his ailing father about JFK, certain other people were also trying to get things out of E. Howard, including the actor Kevin Costner, who had played a JFK-assassination-obsessed DA in the Oliver Stone film JFK and had become somewhat obsessed himself. Costner said that he could arrange for E. Howard to make $5 million for telling the truth about what happened in Dallas. Unbeknown to St. John, however, Costner had already met with E. Howard once. That meeting didn't go very well. When Costner arrived at the house, he didn't ease into the subject. "So who killed Kennedy?" he blurted out. "I mean, who did shoot JFK, Mr. Hunt?" E. Howard's mouth fell open, and he looked at his wife. "What did he say?"
"Howard," Laura said, "he wants to know who shot JFK."
And that ended that meeting, with E. Howard grumbling to himself about Costner, "What a numskull."
But then St. John got involved, and he knew better how to handle the situation. For one thing, he knew that his stepmother wanted to forget about the past. She didn't want to hear about Watergate or Kennedy. In fact, E. Howard swore to Laura that he knew nothing about JFK's assassination; it was one of her preconditions for marriage. Consequently, she and her sons often found themselves in conflict with St. John.
"Why can't you go back to California and leave well enough alone?" they asked him. "How can you do this? How dare you do this? He's in the last years of his life."
But Saint's attitude was, "This has nothing to do with you. This stuff is of historical significance and needs to come out."
So when Saint arrived in Miami to talk to his dad, the two men spent a lot of time waiting for Laura to leave the house. Saint painted the living room and built a wheelchair ramp. In the mornings, he cooked breakfast. In the afternoons, he plopped a fishing hat on E. Howard's head and wheeled him around the neighborhood. They drank coffee together. And watched lots of Fox News. And when Laura finally left, they talked.
Afterward, another meeting was arranged with Costner, this time in Los Angeles, where the actor had fifty assassination-related questions all ready to go. (The actor declined comment for this article.) Though the $5 million figure was still floating around, all Costner wanted to pay E. Howard at this point was $100 a day for his time. There would be no advance. St. John called Costner.
"That's your offer? A hundred dollars? That's an insult. You're a cheapskate."
"Nobody calls me a cheapskate," said Costner. "What do you think I'm going to do, just hand over $5 million?"
"No. But the flight alone could kill him. He's deaf as a brick. He's pissing in a bag. He's got one leg. You want him to fly to Los Angeles and for $100 a day? Wow! What are we going to do with all that money?!"
"I can't talk to you anymore, St. John," Costner said. And that was the end of that, for good. It looked like what E. Howard had to say would never get out.
One evening in Eureka, over a barbecue meal, St. John explains how he first came to suspect that his father might somehow be involved in the Kennedy assassination. "Around 1975, I was in a phone booth in Maryland somewhere, when I saw a poster on a telephone pole about who killed JFK, and it had a picture of the three tramps. I saw that picture and-- like a cartoon character, my jaw dropped, my eyes popped out of my head, and smoke came out of my ears. It looks like my dad. There's nobody that has all those same facial features. People say it's not him. He's said it's not him. But I'm his son, and I've got a gut feeling."
He chews his sandwich. "And then, like an epiphany, I remember '63, and my dad being gone, and my mom telling me that he was on a business trip to Dallas. I've tried to convince myself that's some kind of false memory, that I'm just nuts, that it's something I heard years later. But, I mean, his alibi for that day is that he was at home with his family. I remember I was in the fifth grade. We were at recess. I was playing on the merry-go-round. We were called in and told to go home, because the president had been killed. And I remember going home. But I don't remember my dad being there. I have no recollection of him being there. And then he has this whole thing about shopping for Chinese food with my mother that day, so that they could cook a meal together." His father testified to this, in court, on more than one occasion, saying that he and his wife often cooked meals together.
St. John pauses and leans forward. "Well," he says, "I can tell you that's just the biggest load of crap in the world. He was always looking at things like he was writing a novel; everything had to be just so glamorous and so exciting. So my dad in the kitchen? Chopping vegetables with his wife? I'm so sorry, but that would never happen. Ever."
Not that it was all bad back then, in Potomac, at Witches Island. E. Howard played the trumpet, and his son was into music too, so sometimes the pair went down to Blues Alley, in Georgetown, to hear jazz. Back home, E. Howard would slap Benny Goodman's monster swing-jazz song "Sing, Sing, Sing" on the turntable, and the two would listen to it endlessly. And then, sometimes, during the stomping Harry James horn solo, E. Howard would jump to his feet, snapping his fingers like some cool cat, pull back his shirt sleeves, lick his lips and play the air trumpet for all he was worth. It was great stuff, and St. John loved it. "I would sit there in awe," he says. But the best was yet to come. It was well past midnight on June 18th, 1972. Saint, eighteen years old, was asleep in his basement bedroom, surrounded by his Beatles and Playboy pinup posters, when he heard someone shouting, "You gotta wake up! You gotta wake up!"
When he opened his eyes, Saint saw his father as he'd never seen him before. E. Howard was dressed in his usual coat and tie, but everything was akimbo. He was a sweaty, disheveled mess. Saint didn't know what to think or what was going on.
"I don't need you to ask a lot of questions," his father said. "I need you to get your clothes on and come upstairs."
He disappeared into the darkness. Saint changed out of his pajamas. Upstairs, he found his father in the master bedroom, laboring over a big green suitcase jumble-filled with microphones, walkie-talkies, cameras, tripods, cords, wires, lots of weird stuff. His father started giving him instructions. Saint went to the kitchen and returned with Windex, paper towels and some rubber dishwashing gloves. Then, in silence, the two of them began wiping fingerprints off all the junk in the suitcase. After that, they loaded everything into E. Howard's Pontiac Firebird and drove over to a lock on the C&O Canal. E. Howard heaved the suitcase into the water, and it gurgled out of sight.
They didn't speak on the way home. St. John still didn't know what was going on. All he knew was that his dad had needed his help, and he'd given it, successfully.
The next day, dressed in one of his prep-school blazers, he drove to a Riggs Bank in Georgetown and met his father inside the safety-deposit-box cage. His father turned him around, lifted his blazer and shoved about $100,000 in cash down the back of his pants. The boy made it home without picking up a tail. Then his father had him get rid of a typewriter. Saint put the typewriter in a bag, hoofed it across the Witches Island property onto the neighboring spread and tossed it into the pond where he and his brother David used to go fishing.
"Don't ever tell anybody you've done these things," his father said later. "I could get in trouble. You could get in trouble. I'm sorry to have to put you in this position, but I really am grateful for your help."
"Of course, Papa," Saint said.
Everything he had done, he'd done because his father and his gang of pals had botched the break-in at the Watergate Hotel. Soon his mother would be killed in a plane crash, and his father would be sent to jail, and Nixon would resign, and his own life would fracture in unimaginable ways. But right now, standing there with his father and hearing those words of praise, he was the happiest he'd ever been.
Years later, when saint started trying to get his father to tell what he knew about JFK, he came to believe the information would be valuable. He both needed money and thought he was owed money, for what he'd been through. Also, like many a conspiracy nut before him, he was more than a little obsessed.
"After seeing that poster of the three tramps," he says, "I read two dozen books on the JFK assassination, and the more I read, the more I was unsure about what happened. I had all these questions and uncertainties. I mean, I was trying to sort out things that had touched me in a big way."
Touched him and turned him upside down, especially the death of his mother. He had been particularly close to her. She was part Native American and had sewed him a buckskin shirt that he used to wear like a badge of honor, along with a pair of moccasins. At the same time, Saint feels that he never got to know her. She told him that during World War II, she'd tracked Nazi money for the U.S. Treasury Department, and Saint believes that early in her marriage to his father, she may have been in the CIA herself, "a contract agent, not officially listed." But he isn't sure about any of it, really.
"In our family, everything was sort of like a mini-CIA," he says. "Nothing was ever talked about, so we grew up with all of these walls, walls around my father, walls around my mother, walls around us kids, to protect and insulate us. You grow up not knowing what really happened. Like, who was my mom, for Christ's sake? Was she a CIA agent? What was her life really like?" The one thing he does know is that when she died, so in large part did the Hunt family.
That time in Miami, with Saint by his bed and disease eating away at him and him thinking he's six months away from death, E. Howard finally put pen to paper and started writing. Saint had been working toward this moment for a long while, and now it was going to happen. He got his father an A&W diet root beer, then sat down in the old man's wheelchair and waited.
E. Howard scribbled the initials "LBJ," standing for Kennedy's ambitious vice president, Lyndon Johnson. Under "LBJ," connected by a line, he wrote the name Cord Meyer. Meyer was a CIA agent whose wife had an affair with JFK; later she was murdered, a case that's never been solved. Next his father connected to Meyer's name the name Bill Harvey, another CIA agent; also connected to Meyer's name was the name David Morales, yet another CIA man and a well-known, particularly vicious black-op specialist. And then his father connected to Morales' name, with a line, the framed words "French Gunman Grassy Knoll."
So there it was, according to E. Howard Hunt. LBJ had Kennedy killed. It had long been speculated upon. But now E. Howard was saying that's the way it was. And that Lee Harvey Oswald wasn't the only shooter in Dallas. There was also, on the grassy knoll, a French gunman, presumably the Corsican Mafia assassin Lucien Sarti, who has figured prominently in other assassination theories.
"By the time he handed me the paper, I was in a state of shock," Saint says. "His whole life, to me and everybody else, he'd always professed to not know anything about any of it. But I knew this had to be the truth. If my dad was going to make anything up, he would have made something up about the Mafia, or Castro, or Khrushchev. He didn't like Johnson. But you don't falsely implicate your own country, for Christ's sake. My father is old-school, a dyed-in-the-wool patriot, and that's the last thing he would do."
Later that week, E. Howard also gave Saint two sheets of paper that contained a fuller narrative. It starts out with LBJ again, connecting him to Cord Meyer, then goes on: "Cord Meyer discusses a plot with [David Atlee] Phillips who brings in Wm. Harvey and Antonio Veciana. He meets with Oswald in Mexico City... Then Veciana meets w/ Frank Sturgis in Miami and enlists David Morales in anticipation of killing JFK there. But LBJ changes itinerary to Dallas, citing personal reasons."
David Atlee Phillips, the CIA's Cuban operations chief in Miami at the time of JFK's death, knew E. Howard from the Guatemala-coup days. Veciana is a member of the Cuban exile community. Sturgis, like Saint's father, is supposed to have been one of the three tramps photographed in Dealey Plaza. Sturgis was also one of the Watergate plotters, and he is a man whom E. Howard, under oath, has repeatedly sworn to have not met until Watergate, so to Saint the mention of his name was big news.
In the next few paragraphs, E. Howard goes on to describe the extent of his own involvement. It revolves around a meeting he claims he attended, in 1963, with Morales and Sturgis. It takes place in a Miami hotel room. Here's what happens:
Morales leaves the room, at which point Sturgis makes reference to a "Big Event" and asks E. Howard, "Are you with us?"
E. Howard asks Sturgis what he's talking about.
Sturgis says, "Killing JFK."
E. Howard, "incredulous," says to Sturgis, "You seem to have everything you need. Why do you need me?" In the handwritten narrative, Sturgis' response is unclear, though what E. Howard says to Sturgis next isn't: He says he won't "get involved in anything involving Bill Harvey, who is an alcoholic psycho."
After that, the meeting ends. E. Howard goes back to his "normal" life and "like the rest of the country . . . is stunned by JFK's death and realizes how lucky he is not to have had a direct role."
After reading what his father had written, St. John was stunned too. His father had not only implicated LBJ, he'd also, with a few swift marks of a pen, put the lie to almost everything he'd sworn to, under oath, about his knowledge of the assassination. Saint had a million more questions. But his father was exhausted and needed to sleep, and then Saint had to leave town without finishing their talk, though a few weeks later he did receive in the mail a tape recording from his dad. E. Howard's voice on the cassette is weak and grasping, and he sometimes wanders down unrelated pathways. But he essentially remakes the same points he made in his handwritten narrative.
Shortly thereafter, Laura found out what had been going on, and with the help of E. Howard's attorney put an end to it. St. John and his father were kept apart. When they did see each other, they were never left alone. And they never got a chance to finish what they'd started. Instead, the old man set about writing his autobiography. He asked for his JFK memos back, and Saint returned them, though not before making copies. There is no way to confirm Hunt's allegations -- all but one of the co-conspirators he named are long gone. St. John, for his part, believes his father. E. Howard was lucid when he made his confession. He was taking no serious medications, and he and his son were finally on good terms. If anything, St. John believes, his father was holding out on him, the old spy keeping a few secrets in reserve, just in case.
Beyond the inconsistencies (he was in, he was out)in the son's tale, don't you wonder where the 'copied' diagram of the chain of command and the 'grasping' tape-recorded confession went to? Why aren't they offered as evidence?
Does anyone doubt that the author and Rolling Stone paid Mr. Hunt for trashing the memory of the father he called, "that fu--er" at one point?
I thought the second guy was supposed to be Woody Harrelson's daddy.
Besides, only the third guy looks like a "hobo". The other 2 look kinda preppy.
LBJ in the fall of '63 was headed for prison. Word had already leaked to him that he was being replaced on the '64 ticket by NC Governor Terry Sanford. LBJ was going to be called by the Senate (Ken Keating R-NY was leading the investigation) sometime before Christmas, about his relationship with Bobby Baker.
Johnson was headed for a big fall; the only way he could save himself was if he were President. As POTUS, during some of the most tense days of the Cold War he knew that Congress would not touch him.
He was right. It worked. The funny thing is, just about the only people who believe the Warren Report today are the media elite.
Yeah, they would be the last to know.
The "magic bullet" theory was called the "magic bullet theory" LONG before High Treason and Stone.
The "theory" was invented by Arlen Specter.
It wasn't Carl Albert (although, like LBJ, he too was a huge crook) it was the man who replaced Johnson as the Congressional representative for his old district in East Texas.
We'll know more in 2013 when the offical documents come out.
It particularly galls the left that Oswald was an angry little commie.
You are totally wrong...the evidence for conspiracy is overwhelming...do you really believe that JFK was murdered by a lone nut assassin (who couldn't shoot) who in turn was murdered by a lone not assassin, up to his eyeballs in Mafia contacts.
That's a story for not very bright children.
Baloney...Kennedy was killed by a conspiracy led by Johnson and Hoover. If you take a little time to read...and not buy elite media propaganda like Posner's book, and Jennings' flacking for the discredited Warren Report you'd lean a few things.
Overwhelming conspiracy evidence?
All these years and no one has leaked anything.
The lone nut assassin was a good shooter, actually, as evidenced by his receiving marksmanship awards while in the military.
If you believe this "conspiracy", I have another good one I'm sure you'll fall for: 9/11 was an inside job by the Bush administration to cover up evidence of corporate scandals and to get us into a war for profit.
Another one you'll like: The British Sailors being taken hostage is a hoax so we can have a catalyst to attack Iran.
Looks like St. John has figured out how to make some money from his father's death.
I'm sorry to be so callous, but almost 40 years on, and most of the players already dead, what does any of this matter, except to a man who believes he's OWED something for what he considers his part in helping his dad?
Yes. The evidence for conspiracy is overwhelming. I have read all the books...even Posner's piece of crap...Dave Powers and Kenny O'Donnell, both in the motorcade said shortly before their deaths that two shots came from the front...they were positive. Bobby Kennedy, ten days before his death told Frank Manciewicz that when he got into the White House he was going to reopen the investigation.
Johnson knew it was going down, so did Hoover...read for yourself, ULTIMATE SACRIFICE by Waldron...it's all there...but it doesn't count because the MSM won't cover it.
The article says only one of the key players is still alive, why not ask him about this story?
Just because CBS/ABC/NBC/CNN/NPR/PBS won't cover it doesn't mean the evidence isn't there. It's been in a hundred books. Take some time and read.
OK, you have corrected me. I can't remember the dude that was winking. It's not this particular photo, but I will find it and post it. Not that it proves anything, just interesting.
It's a free country, you can believe what you like, and your belief doesn't have to be based on facts.
However, the facts of this event demonstrate that all of the shots that struck the limo and its occupants were fired from about the location of the book depository window.
That doesn't mean there wasn't a conspiracy involved. Since Oswald was killed, we obviously don't have his account.
The shooting of Oswald by a nightclub owner with mob ties is extremely suspicious. But Ruby died without giving any specifics.
So there may well have been a conspiracy to use Oswald as the instrument to kill Kennedy.
But the "grassy knoll" gunman is just a fantasy used to sell books and movies.
didn't happen...
His jacket was bunched up-that's why the wound appears lower on the back of his jacket in relation to the exit wound. Everybody knows this, but conspiracy buffs refuse to mention thes things. Just like the "doctored" photo of Oswald holding the rifle. There might be something to that if there had been only one photo, but there were several poses with the rifle, and they were taken by his wife. Again, conspiracy buffs ignore this. And we are supposed to believe that all the gruesome autopsy photos have also been "faked" because they reveal that the fatal head entry wound was in the back of the head and exitied from the upper front right. Sheesh.
I used to be a JFK conspiracy buff, too. I now believe one lone commie punk named Oswald did the killing.
Another conspiracy "fact" that is not true. In the marines, he qualified as a sharpshooter. On a later test, he qualified as marksman. So the worst you can say is that he hovered between sharpshooter and marksman. In any case, he was a decent shooter.
When I think back to my conspiracy buff day, I realize that the reason I believed all thos theories is that I was drawing conclusions based on untrue "facts".
If you think the MSM, as a whole, doesn't also believe in the conspiracy theory, then you are living in dreamland.
It's the MSM, along with teachers, "historians" and Hollywood-types who have fomented this "conspiracy" nonsense all these years.
Some things are simply what they are.
Reminds me of the old saw: Generals are killed by snipers; privates are killed by random fire. It's very difficult to accept the possibility that JFK was killed by a lone gunman who frankly made a lucky shot.
No, I fits that LBJ was a life long manic depressive with a strong streak of paranoia. When Uncle Walter deserted him, the Kennedy clan started sniping at him from all sides, and his own aids started turning their back on him, he went into a funk that he never recoverd from. LBJ didn't want to be President anymore --- in fact, he didn't even want to live any more.
I'm just surprised that there are people in here who have fallen for the Camelot Fairy Tale.
I'll wait for the movie, don't read books on the web.
You don't believe a word of it? This sort of response goes to the heart of my argument against scientism. (Scientism is the belief that the only truths that exist are those that are scientifically demonstrated.) I'm not going to criticise you for not believing this article, of course; what I'm criticizing here is the process by which most people determine the truth.
What is truth? That was Pilate's question to Jesus. Today, we claim to be able to discern the truth without asking God; we rely on something called "the scientific method". To modern people, truth is that which can be supported by evidence. This method works fairly well as far as inanimate objects are concerned; that statement that "water is composed of hydrogen and oxygen" is held to be true in a certain sense because anyone can combine hydrogen and oxygen and view the result. But what about other truths? Social, psychological, historical truths? Can these be determined to be genuine using the scientific method?
I don't see how. let's take the JFK assassination, for example. The statement "JFK was shot in Dallas on 22 November 1963" is a historical fact; JFK was alive on 21 November and dead on 23 November, during which time he was in Dallas, and examiners did find wounds consistent with gunshot wounds. On that we all agree. But who shot him? And why? We cannot determine the answers to these questions using the scientific method. There is no impartial court of cosmic data examiners in the sky who have analyzed the scientific facts of the case and come to a conclusion. Instead, what we have is a government-approved "finding" created by a panel of political insiders the Warren Report. Now, the Warren Report might be the Gospel truth about the JFK assassination but it also might not be. Yet for most people, the Warren Report is the truth, and that's that. We accept a certain version of events as true on the basis of authority alone.
That's fine as far as it goes. But it is important to realize that the Warren Commission's job was not to investigate the murder of the President of the United States. Its job was to prevent the shock and chaos created by the assassination from causing disruption of the social and political order of the United States. Bearing this in mind, it becomes easy to see why the Commission ultimately issued the finding that the JFK assassination was the result of a "lone nut". Let's say you're a member of the Commission, and you are presented with a clear, color 8mm sound film of LBJ hiring Lucien Sarti to kill JFK. Do you publish it for all the world to see?
Hell, no. Why not? Because you are an authority figure. If the American people hear from you that the President was killed as part of a coup d'etat instigated by his own Vice President, they'll go nuts. They will stop trusting in the government. They will lose all their psycholical bearings. The financial system will undergo a critical loss in investor confidence and crash. The military will no longer be certain who (if anyone) is their Commander-in-Chief. Foreign powers might choose such a moment to stike. No, as a patriot what you do in that case is to bury the evidence and say whatever you have to say to keep the country together.
But even that scenario doesn't strike at the heart of the queation. What IS Truth? Is it what we see on TV? Is it what the government tells us? Is it what the history books say? How can we know? Back to the JFK affair: a good question to ask oneself is "What evidence would it take to convince me 100% that JFK was shot from the front?" Color photos of a second gunman? Photos can be faked. A sound recording? Ditto. The testimony of witnesses? Dozens have testified to hearing shots from the Knoll. They could be mistaken, delusional, or lying. So much for evidence.
We need to admit it: in some cases, no amount of evidence, no matter how incrminating it might be, would be enough to get Oswald off the hook. In fact, for most people, even a signed, notarized affadavit stating "I had Kennedy killed" written on White House stationery and signed by LBJ would not be enough. Do you see my point?There IS no 100% certain way to know the truth regarding the JFK assassination OR ANY OTHER HISTORICAL EVENT.
Therefore, the scientific method is useless in determining historical truth. As thinking people, we are forced to examine ALL the evidence ALL and then apply our reason and intuition to come up with a statement of belief that seems to fit. We cannot KNOW exactly what happened to JFK on that fateful November day; the best we can do is pick from a menu of interpretations and choose one to believe in.
And, in a larger sense, this is true for life.The scientific method proves nothing; evidence taken on authority can be faked, and even directly-observed evidence may not be true (since our senses can food us). So how do we know what we know? The only things we can know are those things that do not rely upon evidence or observation. We can know that we ourselves exist, because we do not "see" or "hear" ourselves; we ARE ourselves. And we can know that God exists through reason and (for a blessed few) through personal Communion. Everything else the sun, gravity, that chair over there we accept on the basis of faith.
You're wrong. I don't want to post them here --- they are gruesome, but if you care to look, you can look at the autopsy photos and see the bullet entry and exit wounds.
There is no excuse for swallowing these damn myths anymore, or making the hustlers who push them wealthy. The documentation is public domain.
"In fact, E. Howard swore to Laura that he knew nothing about JFK's assassination; it was one of her preconditions for marriage."
That is one of the funniest lines I have ever come across in all of my 43 years of reading.
I have a Mannlicher Caranco 91/38, not a bad little rifle, but I can't see anyone using a scope could get off three rounds at a moving target.
Oswald was a Marine and if you know USMC training, it's indoctrination that the Marine and his rifle are a unit .. a combined killing machine.
I suspect Oswald would have been happier with an M-1 than with a cheap import. Or even a Star Gaugae '03 Springfield if he could afford one
On the other hand, I can't see Bobby K. just letting go of his brother being killed.
That's simply not in our Irish nature.
The Warren Report? A lot of garbage and filler (Dental records? lol)
I saw the photo... the "guy" was Congressman Albert Thomas, from Houston and he was a better friend of Kennedy than of Johnson. Thomas was old (he was a WWI vet) and had wanted to retire in 1962 and Kennedy talked him out of retirement to make sure the Democrats held that seat. As to the photo, is he winking? I can't tell ... his face is mostly out of focus. And is LBJ even looking at him, or was he looking at Lady Bird? I don't know that either.
And what if it were a wink --- what the hell does that mean? Considering the man had just taken the oath of office as the President of the United States under horrible circumstances, how would one at least acknowledge that fact? Seems cheers and high-fives would be out of place and the cabin of that 707 was a little tight for formal reception lines.
This conspiracy stuff drives me nuts and with the internet today, it only took me 30 seconds to look it up yet there are kook web sites out there who do identify the guy as Carl Albert. Like all conspiracy crap, they are long on innuendo and short on facts.
1. Why would a scope make an difference on the number of rounds you could get off?
2. The "target' was not a deer bounding through the woods. It was slow moving in nearly prefect alignment with the line of fire.
Visit the School Book Depository some time. You can stand there in the 6th floor and look out from the window directly next to the one Oswald fired from. I don't claim to be a great marksman, but I could have hit that target 2 out of 3 and in fact, the angel and distances have been recreated many times and even average marksmen have done it.
I don't know one way or the other but wasn't Oswald a Marine?
I'm pretty sure he could shoot and that shot has been easily replicated with the exact same type rifle.
That doesn't mean I don't buy into the second spitter theory.
You were doing pretty good until the part where you said we can know that god exists through reason but we only know the sun exists through faith. You are turning words upside down for your amusment, I guess.
Because she'd just seen he husband's head explode while she was staring straight into his eyes from almost nose to nose distance?
I have a Mannlicher Caranco 91/38, not a bad little rifle, but I can't see anyone using a scope could get off three rounds at a moving target.
I do not have one, so I cannot test how quickly one could shoot it. But remember that the first shot would already have chambered.
I do not know how well Oswald's Marine indoctrination went. He fit the classic loner-chip-on-his-shoulder mentality, so I doubt he was a good Marine.
Nope. We can know God exists through reason alone, by any of several logical means. (St Anselm's, for one; Descartes, for another; I leave it to you to look up the specifics. Search under "ontological proofs of God".) We can also know God directly, from direct experience, without the use of reason or the senses.
As for the sun: we do not know it exists. We can see, feel, and measure the Sun's output, but we cannot demonstrate that these observations bear any relation to any object outside our own minds. For all we know we are cosmic sleepers, dreaming about something called a "sun". For all we know we are disembodied brains floating in some vat and "living" in a Matrix-style computer simulatied world. Any piece of evidence that you can cite for the existence of the sun could be faked or simulated. Of course, I believe in the existence of the sun (and the physical universe along with it), but belief is not certainty; it is an act of faith. I have faith that what my senses show me is a real world, but I can't "prove" it.
And who is the "me" my senses show these things to, anyway?
I think she was trying to pick up pieces of his head? Kind of tells me the point of impact was from the front.
I looked it up and saw it, as well. It seems to me that he is winking, and you can tell that LBJ is smiling (even though you can't see the front of his face, you can tell that he is smiling because of the way the side of his face look, if that makes sense). What does it prove? Nothing, really. Nothing at all. Yes, "high fives" would be out of place, for sure.
As for conspiracies in general, I find many to be unconvincing but all are fascinating. But if you are taking the position that all are "crap," I believe you are wrong. I believe in a bare few of them, and a plot to kill JFK is one, for sure. Cuban exiles and Mafia types, in particular, had good reason to participate in the plot to kill JFK.
In February, 2001, the writer, C. David Heymann, asked Cord Meyer about the death of Mary Pinchot Meyer: "My father died of a heart attack the same year Mary was killed , " he whispered. "It was a bad time." And what could he say about Mary Meyer? Who had committed such a heinous crime? "The same sons of bitches," he hissed, "that killed John F. Kennedy."
Cord Meyer died of lymphoma on 13th March, 2001.
Supposedly Oliver Stone is keeping himself healthy for that day
That must have been wuite a marriage!
Congress committee in late 1970's concluded there was a "likely" conspiracy.
So say you. Also, I haven't fallen into anything. I have read just about every book written on the subject, I lived 40 miles from Dallas in 1963, Oswald's daughter was in my 1st grade class, and I've met his brother, Robert Oswald. There are too many things that happened that do not add up. All you have to do is watch the Zapruder film, and it is obvious that the fatal shot came from the front. The police officer riding behind the car and on the left was sprayed with blood and brain tissue. That would not happen with a shot from behind. Numerous other things do not make sense if Oswald was the "lone assasin".
For sure???
Come on. Post your best evidence that makes it "for sure." The Conspiracy Industry can't even decide if it was Nixon, LBJ, The Mafia, Castro, the FBI, CIA, the South Vietnamese or some husband of a broad that Kennedy shagged. But they're all "sure" that there was a plot.
The only things I am sure of is that any conspiracy that involves more than two people will never stay secret, and that the Warren Commission report fits all of the facts available --- then or now. People have been shooting at it for over 40 years, and no one has yet demonstrated that it is wrong on any of its material conclusions.
I have seen no evidence to make me "sure" of anything other than publishing conspiracy theories can be 'fun and profitable' no matter how far out they are. There is a market of suckers who will buy them.
Whether there was a conspiracy to kill JFK or not, LBJ's reaction is immaterial. If we heard today or tomorrow that B.J. Clinton or Ted "The Hero of Chappaquiddick" Kennedy was assassinated, don't you think it possible, or even likely that some of us might smile or wink? That would not mean we were involved, mind you.
Not many people have witnessed what Gen. Patton described as "putting your hand into a bunch of goo that a few moments before was your best friend's face". I think that a sheltered debutante like Jackie would likely evacuate the premises forthwith after what she'd witnessed. I do not subscribe to the "picking up pieces of head" scenario. But, you feel free to do so if you wish.
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Wednesday, January 30, 2013
Wordless Wednesday: A Handsome Young Couple -- My Parents
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Lovely picture, you look like your mother.ReplyDeleteReplies
Thanks Claudia! I get that a lot now. It's funny when I was a kid I thought I favored my dad more. Especially around the eyes. Now though I am definitely following in my mom's footsteps. :)Delete
I sure do see you in your Mother!ReplyDeleteReplies
Thanks True! We sound alike too. Can't get away from that DNA :)Delete
great looking parents you have there. Oh, I see Santa Claus so this had to be a wonderful time....ReplyDelete
Such a handsome couple! Lovely photo Andrea!ReplyDelete
Reckon they seem to also glowing with the happiness of having found "the love of their life" :-) ... Am wondering if this is your mum's Graduation Day because of the photo and cards on the Dresser behind? Lovely picture!!!ReplyDelete
wonderful photo.ReplyDelete
I love pictures like this. They do look happy & gorgeous. What were they like?ReplyDelete
I think you do have your dad's eyes in your mother's face.ReplyDelete


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Skip to comments.Breaking: Did a Radical Daily Kos Reader try to Assassinate Rep. Giffords?
Posted on 01/08/2011 11:52:16 AM PST by therightliveswithus
Today, House Representative Gabrielle Giffords of Arizona was shot in the head while holding a public event in Tucson, Arizona. Another eleven were also shot; Giffords was reportedly shot at "point blank range." Giffords and those shot were then rushed to the hospital.
In the shot term, with few answers out there, the major question arises: who shot Representative Giffords and why? One startling possibility: an angry Daily Kos reader named "BoyBlue" may be behind the shooting.
In a diary written just two days ago, BoyBlue wrote a diary exclaiming that Rep. Giffords was "DEAD to me!" The headline was followed by a rambling diary that contained a passage in which BoyBlue stated that he "shot [himself] in the mouth in a serious suicide attempt" after his same-sex partner left him.
BoyBlue then went on a diatribe against Giffords, writing (with language cleaned up):
"Today, just a little while ago, I saw on Andrea Mitchell Reports (out of the one eye in can still see out of) that Giffords voted AGAINST Nancy Pelosi as our Minority Leader. Rhetorical question: I fought back from my condition and jumped in with both feet to help Gabrielle Giffords for THIS s**t???"
(Excerpt) Read more at punditpress.blogspot.com ...
irresponsible speculation
I think the top suspects:
Mexican Narco Hit Man/boy
blueboy from Kos
I'm thinking it will turn out to be someone like this,, just judging from the deafening silence about the murderer so far. That, or sudden jihad,,she is a Jewish woman.
Prayers for her recovery and the other people as well.
SHOT two days after voting against Nancy Pelosi.
Seems speculative. Rhetoric is one thing. Shooting is another.
Got a good chuckle a few minutes ago watching the stream of KOLD TV in Tucson.
One of their reporters said that even though the "national news sources", and "he had just checked the Huffington Post", were saying the Congresswoman was dead she was alive and in surgery.
Browsing some of his posts, he does live in Arizona, but seems to be much older than the description of the man they have in custody. But good try, the Facebook search engines must be near meltdown right now.
It doesn't matter. The blame for this will rest on Republicans.
I am pretty sure he will be getting a visit from the FBI.
This act was criminal and deadly. We don't know if the person was far left, far right, or maybe hearing voices in their head from Satan.
This was not a normal act. We all use the voting booths or peacefully protest to make our points.
This was an abnormal person not associated with any group IMO because no group would condone this behavior (outside of maybe Islam of course).
This act was criminal and deadly. We don't know if the person was far left, far right, or maybe hearing voices in their head from Satan.
This was not a normal act. We all use the voting booths or peacefully protest to make our points.
This was an abnormal person not associated with any group IMO because no group would condone this behavior (outside of maybe Islam of course).
How can someone who can't even manage to kill himself with a gun to the mouth hit eleven people.
Individuals who are already using this act of violence to advance their political aganeda should be ashamed of themselves.
Attn; Feds please get yer heads outa yer axx long enough to close the border and stop kissing illegals axx, then you can stick yer heads back up yer axx where you usually keep it.
I am pretty sure this is "BoyBlue" of dailykos, but he posted about an hour ago about the shooting, so I doubt he is the shooter.
Lefty wack jobs are trying to associate this tragic event with Sarah Palin.
"Sarah Palin has just thrown down the gauntlet with a new site called Take Back The 20, which is aimed at knocking off 20 Democrats who voted for Obamacare in GOP-leaning districts."
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/sarah-palin-take-back-the-20-2010-9#ixzz1ATbT795Q
Attn; Feds please get yer heads outa yer axx long enough to close the border and stop kissing illegals axx, then you can stick yer heads back up yer axx where you usually keep it.
Isn't this the typical MO of the radical left? JFK killed by a card-carrying commie, RFK by a muzzie, etc. David Horowitz changed his radical ways when what was left of his best freind Betty VanPatter was pulled out of SF bay with over 50 stab wounds, the handywork of the old Black Panthers he was enamored with. We'll wait and see, let the moonbats make their crazy accusations, we all know what happens when we ASSume. I'm surprised none of them blamed it on GWB, yet.
This is just as bad as the Secret Service paying a visit to that UFC fighter jokingly saying he wanted to fight Obama next.
We'll see who it is... it's possible for someone else to post something on another's Facebook account if the page was left open.
On his info page on FB:
I am a law school graduate from the University of Arizona. I worked as a paid fundraiser for ONLY the most progressive of the Democrats in my home state of AZ and also CA. I also raise money for a percentage of pay for DFA, DNC, DSCC, and the DCCC, and moveon.org. I'm a VERY committed progressive Democrat and DESPISE conservatives, Republicans and Libertarians. I hope they all die in a fire! If you are a Repug, get the f### off my facebook page!!!
When this thing broke I was listening to Jamie Colby on my XM Radio covering it for FOX News. All I can say is, this woman is F-ing stupid!
Did you guys listen or watch her interviewing the aid to Giffords? Good grief, Colby was pumping the crap out of her for unverifiable information! You could tell from Bret Bair's analysis, he was trying to rein her in from speculating. Then these idiots in the media (FOX included) report that this Congresswomen had been killed...ONLY TO REPORT A SHORT TIME LATER THAT SHE WAS IN SURGERY!
These media outlets (including FOX) should be sued!
Our media is an abject joke!
Insane and irresponsible conjecture.
A few years ago, a guy from MA was involved with a local teacher.
He killed her, her mother, and maybe a coworker of the woman.
IIRC, he shot himself in the head - twice - with a .45, and was still
able to show up the next day be arraigned looking relatively
"well", albeit, in a wheelchair.
Seems to be rampant everywhere in regards to this story.
Kos has pulled the thread ... hope the wayback machine keeps this from being flushed down the memory hole.
Leftist hate speech bumper sticker. Not irresponsible at all. Rational speculation, really, based upon fact and history.
It is just a matter of time before Pelosi announces that it was Bush's fault.
Very plausible. Fox reports the shooter as 22 year old, Jared Laudner.
From Twitter:
BreakingNews Breaking News
RT @RussertXM_NBC: Federal authorities identify the gunman as Jared Laughner of Arizona, born September 1988
MySpace page of that person has a post including the phrase "goodbye friends"...
LOL @ Daily Kos, DU, and other Democrats blaming this on the Tea :arty! Epic Fail!
This was an abnormal person not associated with any group IMO because no group would condone this behavior (outside of maybe Islam of course).
Why was Palin targeting a Dem who is more conservative than most republicans?
Only Giffords and Nick Rahall got re-elected.
No, the guy in the postings seems to be much older and claims to have donated "thousands" to Gifford's campaign. Also, there is no mention of a Jared Loughner as having donated to any campaign at opensecrets.org.
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