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Skip to comments.Father kills 4 children, self after spousal dispute (2006 US murder totals - 8788 and rising)
Posted on 07/08/2006 7:59:32 PM PDT by Libloather
Father kills 4 children, self after spousal dispute
Associated Press
Posted on Wed, Jul. 05, 2006
An undated photo provided by the Gustine Police Department shows twins Alyssa Branscum, 5, left, and Taylor Branscum. The twins and their two other siblings were found dead in their Gustine, Calif., home Tuesday, July 4, 2006, officials said. The children apparently died of gunshots to the head, and their father, Trevor Branscum, 38, died of a self-inflicted wound, Mayor Jim Bonta said. Police Sgt. Vince Inaudi said the children appeared to be sleeping when they were shot. The evidence was consistent with a murder-suicide, but the department planned to conduct a full homicide investigation, he said. (AP Photo/Gustine Police Department)
GUSTINE, Calif. A man who was seen arguing with his wife Tuesday later killed his four young children with a hunting rifle before turning the gun on himself, officials said.
Authorities identified the dead siblings as Aubrie Branscum, 12; Jacob, 10; and twins Taylor and Alyssa, 5.
The children apparently died of gunshots to the head, according to Mayor Jim Bonta.
Their father, Trevor Branscum, 38, died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound. Authorities told the mayor Branscum had to reload the rifle before each shot.
Bonta said that the family had lived in Gustine for several years and that police were unaware of any previous problems with the family.
They were happy; they were doing fireworks together last night, Bonta said.
The bloodshed came about an hour after a store owner called police to report that Branscum and his wife, Amanda, were having an argument. Police said that as the woman drove away in a van, her husband dove through the window.
Authorities said that after police were called to the Branscum home before 2 a.m., officers saw Amanda Branscum lying in the road uninjured; the father and children were found dead inside the house.
Pause, take a deep breath and, please, tell her story. You seem to know what happened...
I think this is what we refer to as a "necro-troll." They normally pull up old threads (usually months or years old), claim to know the people in the story, and proceed to tell all of us freepers what a uncaring, cold-hearted lot we are. The signup date on this one is 7-10, which means that they are located in a time zone that is outside of the US -- another indication that they really don't know those involved.
Kinda sounds like the poster knows someone we don't. We'll see...
Cross referencing for interesting contrast.
Another troll? I think there are two here!
How did you just *manage* to find us here?
Sign up date is set for GMT...it always looks like they signed up the next day when it's later in the day here.
Are you a retread? Have you been banned before? You sure don't act like a newbie who doesn't know the way around.
THat "U" thing is aways non-natives.
I would normally say "IBTZ" but I think this situation needs some insights from elsewhere.
But knock of the "moron" type insults, newbie.
It is a double-troll night.
Women who are mature ADULTS, especially with four babies at home, DON'T run to talk with girlfriend after fight with husband.
If you know these adults females, then that says much about you. They aren't WOMEN, just adult females who are still running to girlfriends, instead of running home to their FAMILY, babies and husband.
If mature married women have problems at home, they see their parents, pastors or marriage counselors, especially problems like the one in this article. Running to girlfriends OBVIOUSLY wasn't a solution, since her husband was busy murdering their four babies and himself while she was "visiting her girlfriend."
Those are not *rules* of mine -- those are just facts of life.
You give a lot of "maybes" in your response. THAT IS WHAT I BEGAN WITH.....I was "wondering" about her. But perhaps you didn't *read* all of my responses, only the ones you didn't like. I am not *surprised* at that, not at *all*.
Anyway, WONDERING was my FIRST premise and I stick with it.
Some stories have Andrea Yates normal. I find that hard to believe. I also find it hard that husband had no clues. Mind you, men are usually busy at work, but not to see ANY clues? I don't buy that either.
Andrea Yates didn't kill herself...and that says volumes. She was NOT suicidal, like this father. She just killed her babies and cried. She's still crying.
This father was desperate enough to put an end to HIS life as well as those of his babies. There SEEMS to be more differences between the two than similaries, but I'm sure YOU have it all figured out. Lol.
1. Seriously, you need to work on your understanding of personal boundaries.
2. There was nothing that she did or could have done to *make* him do this.
1. What have "personal boundaries" to do with his murder or with anything on this thread? Or is that a catch phrase that you try to work into your puerile scolds? Your thinking is as nonsequiter as can be.
2. I NEVER excused his murders in any way....NEVER. You are reading your own words into what I wrote and that is just wrong.
I don't know where you get the arrogance and meaness to accuse me of that and I don't know if you do it out of malice or stupidity or both. How dare you? You should be ASHAMED of yourself for reading such an evil idea into my words.
You are correct.
I DID start out with "I was wondering."
From that wondering, one sick poster accused me of excusing the father from the murders.
This IS a discussion site, isn't it? :o)
Perhaps you might benefit from some conversation with your parents, minister, school counselor or someone you know, love and trust. Perhaps THEY can help you through your grief.
Reading a discussion thread on the Free Republic about these deaths is probably the worst thing you can do.
But don't take MY word for it. Ask your parents.
Thanks for the heads-up.
My daughter stayed in her marriage because she believed that marriage was FOREVER. She knew if she told us what he was doing to her we would have forced her to leave him. Her husband threateded suicide on a regular basis often with a gun right beside him. My daughter stayed because she said she would never be able to live with herself if he killed himself because of her. She finally got the courage to leave when she started to fear for the safety of her children.
Starfish, spousal abuse often happens slowly and gets progressively worse. The abuser browbeats the victim into believing they deserve the abuse. Also, financial reasons keep people together even if they desperately want out. There are not nearly enough shelters for abused women to use for escape. I don't care what you say or how brave you think you are. If you thought a crazy relative might come murder your daughter or your grandchildren, who lives with you, you would be afraid, too.
Talk is cheap. Walk a mile in my shoes or the shoes of an abused wife and you will see there are no simple answers.
Starfish923, while you are doing all your praying maybe you should pray for a brain and a heart. You know absolutely nothing about what you are talking about.
Your head is soooo far up your butt I don't know where to start. When I married my ex he liked a drink now and then, by the end of our 16 year marriage he was a raging abusive alcoholic. One of his "buttons" I pushed was telling him the weather forcast before he left for work. Tell me how to avoid things like that. Many people still believe that marriage is forever and we don't end it unless our life is at risk. How do you know when someone is going to snap. It must be convienient being psychic. Most of us are not so blessed.
Oh PS I have had the same best friend since I was sixteen. I am now forty eight. When anything bad or good happens I call her first. She's the person that knows me best and will tell me the truth instead of what I want to hear or what she feels she should say. I trust her most of all. Too bad you don't understand that kind of friendship.
"You have no right to bagger Amanda."
Let's bagger lmf because it can be done...;)
Am I reading the article wrong...sounds to me like the kids were his, and she was the step mom????
Well, HALF of it is true. So it's HALF-brilliant, HALF-succint. Remember, it always, always and always take TWO to figh.
Are none of us responsible for NOT pushing buttons?
You may not be aware of it but button pushers are bullies, control freaks who know the vulnerable spots in people. They attack, tease, provoke and otherwise rile people up because that's what they do.
I've been a teacher since 1969 and have taught ALL grades but have been at the college level for the past 20 years.
I've seen the provacateurs do their nasty, vile, evil work on the weakest, most vulnerable and GIRLS are just as prone to bully as boys, but in a MUCH different ways. Girls tease, ridicule, mock and otherwise push buttons as nastily as boys.
It seems to me that NOT pushing buttons, or NOT provoking, teasing, etc., is the OTHER half of the equation.
Provoking is mean, controlling and manipulative....especially when the provoker knows FULL WELL what s/he is doing. There are NO worse button pushers than spouses because they know the full breadth of their words and actions. I also include actions like: NOT talking (the silent treatment), ignoring, sulking/brooding (worse than mere pouting), walking out and such....REMEMBER, these are done as button pushing.
Are you LOVING this lesson too? These are lessons that most of us learn in our teens. GoLightly and you seem NOT to have learned THIS other HALF of the equation.
I do agree that we are all responsible to disarm our own buttons, including those buttons that TAKE AIM at others' buttons. So, if what SHE said is the "most important thing on this thread" then you also are HALF right. Now, go for the OTHER HALF.
Without doing that then the discussion only HALF said and HALF done.
I can very easily understand how your daughter stayed with that horrible, vile bastard. You helped keep her there with your own lack of courage.
I've heard ALL the standard excuses of weak people. I've also heard and seen the strength that people have to get out of these horrible, dangerous and CHILD-DESTROYING marriages. Help from family is crucial.
Your daughter made my point for me. She DID find the courage. She DID get the backbone. She DID the right thing because she stopped thinking of HER feelings and put HER CHILDREN first, as she should.
I hope she learned that NO "marriage is forever." NO faith expects people to stay where there is the kind of abuse that kills or irreparably damages.....NO faith. ANY clergy would have urged your daughter to end the dread, fear and abuse.
Starfish923, while you are doing all your praying maybe you should pray for a brain and a heart. You know absolutely nothing about what you are talking about.
1. Right. You OBVIOUSLY haven't read my posts because COURAGE to do the right thing was right on my list. If you HAD read it, you wouldn't have written such a foolish thing.
2. Right. So, it's a one-way street with you, all talk, scold, lecture and no reading from sources you don't like or don't feel like reading. Nothing IN, everything OUT.
3. Right. You insult me personally (ad hominem) because....because you have nothing left to argue so you go ONE STEP farther and insult. That shows YOUR character, upbringing and manners.
You really ought to get some therapy, couseling or have a LONG chat with Dr. Laura.
They will ALL tell you what you so obviously STILL don't know. There is nothing "psychic" about spotting a drunk or a psycho. There is nothing "psychic" about common sense.
Some GEMS from Dr. Laura (I listen to her on my way home from work.):
*Knowing someone at least a year and a half before marriage will tell you almost everything about a person.
*Family and friends will often see what the most blind lover won't see and listening to those who love you the most is crucial.
*Meeting someone through family, friends or church is often a good way to meet someone. Can you guess why or do you need a crsytal ball?
Are these revelations of the "psychic" to you? Are you so unblessed as to not possess any common sense? I hope not. If so, then you are doomed to repeat your mistakes.
You REALLY show YOUR character, upbringing and manners when you start off a post with an insult. Shame on you.
You know, you sent this to YOURSELF. I just happened to see it. I actually DO read through the thread. Lol. Your emotions seem to have the upper hand in this.
You continue your insults by assuming that I don't understand "that kind of friendship."
I'm happy that you have such a good friend.
But your character, upbringing and manners are showing again. You have SUCH anger...especially at a total stranger, all for saying things with which you disagree. Perhaps it's time for you to talk to your girlfriend again.
I wonder who made THIS call to the police to the Branscum jome before 2 A.M. The article doesn't say.
It SUGGESTS that someone in the neighborhood saw or heard something from the Branscum home that would warrent him/her calling the police at two in the morning.
Sounds like it might have been a repeat performance for the police visit.
Maybe Anita called them before she collapsed uninjured on the sidewalk.
Lots of holes to be filled in this article.
In fact... I was just thinking you may be the same poster....
1. You got ASSURANCE from the elders that he was the right person? Wow. How would they know?
Again, you got it wrong.
ADVICE, not assurance. NO ONE knows to the point of ASSURANCE how people really are. You wanted ADVICE. How about asking your own family, HIS family and friends, his boss, co-workers? They might have had more insight than the Church elders in that they might have known him better. Perhaps your girlfriend ASSURED you or ADVISED you that he was the right man. If so, they were all dead wrong. Strange that ALL of them were TOTALLY fooled by this one person. In fact, I really don't know if I believe you or not.
2. I have no "theory," just common sense. So I am right again and you are wrong again.
3. More insults. Your character, manners and upbringing, or your lack of them, ALWAYS seems to come through. Perhaps some people simply can't change some things.
4. And here come the excuses for bad behavior and sour words. Excuses for your bad manners....that is also learned behavior.
5. I don't know; I'm often wrong. It's just that with your logic, ideas and thinking, it's SO EASY to be right all the time. All it takes is common sense and life experiences. I AM oldish. I've been a teacher since 1969, 15 years with kids and the rest with college-age adults.
6. I never blamed the victim. But I know that. You simply refuse to read the words as I wrote them. It DID start with "I wonder." Lol. That is WONDERING, not blaming.
But, if you could read with your brain and not your emotions, you might have been able to "get it."
You might consider talking to someone with more experience and wisdom than just your girlfriend. Perhaps to one of those Church elders.
Remember, it's ADVICE you would like, not ASSURANCES. There are few assurances in this world. That too is common sense.
Pax vobiscum.
1. I wonder at anyone ASSURING another human being about the furture actions of any person. I thought that only GOD would be able to ASSURE one about a person's future behavior. You seem to have imbued your elders with omnipotence. That is not straight, clear thinking, not at all.
2. Pity away. Coming from you that is merely inane, peurile, misplaced and, I THINK, rather pathetic. Mostly it's nonsequiter. I feel on the right side when it comes from you. I have agreed on NOTHING with you so I would be rather worried if you did agree with me. Lol.
3. Since I didn't blame the spouse for the death of the children, you are not talking to me.
Perhaps, since you seem OBSESSED about putting those words into my post and they WERE NOT there, then perhaps, in your own skewed logic, YOU blame her.
You DO keep driving the point, so I assume that you can't let go of the fact that I DIDN'T say that. Your own obsessions reveal things not good in your thinking and ideas. Tsk, tsk.
Obsession with falsehoods seems to be another sad, sad part of your character. So does denial. But, that's just a guess based on your puerile thinking, emotional responses and inaccurate reading.
Respond or not. I don't care either.
Still, I say to you: Pax vobiscum.
Those children LEARN how to deal with life and its problems from their dysfunction parents and grandparents, the abuser, the abused and the enabling extended family. The cycle will continue, thanks to thinking like yours.
I can very easily understand how your daughter stayed with that horrible, vile bastard. You helped keep her there with your own lack of courage.
I've heard ALL the standard excuses of weak people. I've also heard and seen the strength that people have to get out of these horrible, dangerous and CHILD-DESTROYING marriages. Help from family is crucial.
Your daughter made my point for me. She DID find the courage. She DID get the backbone. She DID the right thing because she stopped thinking of HER feelings and put HER CHILDREN first, as she should.
I hope she learned that NO "marriage is forever." NO faith expects people to stay where there is the kind of abuse that kills or irreparably damages.....NO faith. ANY clergy would have urged your daughter to end the dread, fear and abuse. .
I am not an enabler now nor have I ever been an enabler. The very minute that I heard my daughter was being abused I told her that she was moving in with us and we would help her through this whole nightmare. She was never alone with her husband after that. We had all of her things moved into our house or storage within 48 hours. I took her to a lawyer and also to a domestic abuse counselor at the DA's office. We filed for a restraining order against her husband received an emergency restraining order agaist him immediately. My husband and I have spent over $10,000 paying for the divorce and psychiatric evaluations on her monster husband. He is not allowed unsupervised visits with the children now and we hope he never will be. My daughter was so terrified of the monster that she was literally a "walking nervous breakdown" for months. We had known something was wrong; but, she wouldn't tell us she was too terrified.
For your information my husband and I never, not for one minute, showed our children abuse or alcoholism, cheating or any other disfunctional behavior. We aren't perfect; but, we have been happily married for over 37 years. We don't drink, smoke or cheat. If anything we have been a hard example to live up to.
You truly are a self-righteous jerk and I am thankful that I am not married to you or related to you in anyway. I pity people who have to deal with you on a daily basis.
If he wanted to commit suicide, he could've done just that.
Buy why take these innocent children with him?
I completely 100% agree with you that button pushers are bullies, and that girls are often exceptionally skilled at it. Completely agree with you that it takes two to create strife in a relationship. Provoking is a terrible thing.
In fact, I would go so far as to say that all of us are both button pushers and button possessors, although to greater and lesser degrees. When we argue and fight, we use this dynamic as a weapon. So ALL of us are responsible for both not pushing others buttons and defusing our own. And that is actually exactly the entire process of successful communication.
I think were we may disagree is to look at a situation like this were children are killed and put a heavy responsibility on the non-involved partner. In any marriage that is breaking up there is a great deal of turmoil. There is a lot of lashing out and button pushing.
However, going over the edge, killing the children and saying essentially the devil made me do it doesn't matter. In the end, we are completely responsible for our own actions no matter who pushed our buttons or bullied us or made us mad. In fact, we can not change other people, we can only change how we respond to it.
It's not that I deny that horrific button pushing happens because it does. And it's not that it isn't an explanation because it might be. What it is not is an excuse for poor (or worse, evil) behavior. My suspicion is that we agree with that and you are wanting to make sure that there is some empathy for those involved. You want us to understand that things like this don't happen in a vacuum. I do.
I would also disagree with you that I didn't learn this lesson in my teens. I think I connected with GoLightly's comment because I am not usually an intentional button pusher (Although I most certainly do it sometimes accidentally as this conversation will attest) but I do get my own buttons pushed far too easily and lash out as a result. What it was is a reminder for me to diffuse those buttons in myself and by doing so I can often do my part in diffusing the situation itself. That is why I connected with it. It was, in fact, simply an acknowledgment of my own weaknesses.
The bottom line is, as adults if we are aware of our own buttons we can better manage our lives in relationship to the button pushers because we too take responsibility for the situation. It is all too easy for those of us who don't push buttons to pass the blame to the bullies and claim victimhood, when we own part of the responsibility for the issue ourselves.
Finally Yes, I am LOVING this lesson too. I learn a great deal from thinking these things through, approaching them from different angles, see alternative perspectives.
You sound like a fine teacher. Thanks for your patience.
I have no trouble believing that Trevor Branscum was a controlling, violent, psychotic POS who didn't need anybody's help in getting to the point of doing this.
The mother might well have been weak in mind and spirit, and scared of him. Her "fault" may lie in simply finding, for once, the backbone to stand up to him.
I can definitely see her being completely undone by the murders of her children, and in a state of utter collapse, which would explain why she was lying there "uninjured."
There's a big red flag. Given what came later, I'd say that Branscumbag was a tyrant who lost all control once his wife showed signs of independence.
For your information my husband and I never, not for one minute, showed our children abuse or alcoholism, cheating or any other disfunctional behavior. We aren't perfect; but, we have been happily married for over 37 years. We don't drink, smoke or cheat. If anything we have been a hard example to live up to.
I didn't say that you showed them by your own behavior, but you showed them by allowing your daughter to live with that monster. At least, that was the story you said BEFORE. Now, however, you have changed your story by revealing more and more and more.....untold facts.
Typical of manipulators to withhold information.
By the way, good for you in doing what you did. Too bad you never bothered to put that in your original story. Too bad the truth finally comes out MUCH later.
Also, good for you and your long, happy marriage. Too bad for your daughter's horrible marriage and that she had to learn the hard way. But, at least she learned.
You truly are a self-righteous jerk and I am thankful that I am not married to you or related to you in anyway. I pity people who have to deal with you on a daily basis.
You show your character, manners and upbringing, or lack of them, by your insults. THAT is behavior that one hopes you didn't pass on to your daughter. Shame on you.
I haven't called you names, but then, name-calling, or ad hominem, personal attacks, are forbidden on this site.
I knew that. Perhaps, since you SEEM to be reading-deficient, you didn't know that. You do now.
I wonder why you assume that I am a male...more unclear, skewed thinking on your part with assumptions. I am a woman, an older one.
I would be chagrined if I had the misfortune to be related to you, ashamed of your manners, character and upbringing and embarrassed by your emotionalism, PUERILE thinking and TOTAL LACK of clear, straight thinking.
Probably because the rude, arrogant blowhards one normally finds at FR tend to be men.
Thus speaks another troll-thinking man-hater, crawling out from under a rock. Are you a member of N.O.W.? Are you one of "them," by any chance?
You've spoken volumes for yourself with that sexist, male-phobic remark.
Thanks for illuminating your own character, upbringing and manners so clearly and finally.
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Interview: Designer Storm Thorgerson Reflects on Pink Floyd and 30 Years of Landmark Album Art
GW Is it important to start working on the album art at the gestation of the project?
THORGERSON It depends on what the gestation was. I didn't have anything, really, to do with the start of Atom Heart Mother, and when I asked them what it was about, they said they didn't know themselves. It's a conglomeration of pieces that weren't related, or didn't seem to be at the time. The picture isn't related either; in fact, it was an attempt to do a picture that was unrelated, consciously unrelated.
GW It's a cow!
THORGERSON 'Cause that seemed to be the most unrelated thing it could be. Also, I think the cow represents, in terms of the Pink Floyd, part of their humor, which I think is often underestimated or just unwritten about. Not that their music is funny, but I think they have good senses of humor. Nick is very droll; he's got a very good dry sense of humor. And Roger is very sharp. Dave has his own particular sense of humor, as well. I think that's why they chose the cow. I think they thought it was funny.
GW Any rejections of your work that come readily to mind?
THORGERSON Yeah, for Animals in particular. There were two roughs for Animals, one of which was a picture of a young child, age three or four, with a teddy bear, opening the room to his parents, who are on the bed making love, being caught in the act, and appearing to be animals. I thought that was really good, but they didn't like it.
For the same job, I also suggested this idea about ducks. In England, the essence of bad taste is to put plaster ducks on the wall. So I took that idea and put real ducks and nailed them to the wall to suggest that people are really animal in some of their artistic and moral decisions. I think they rejected that not because they didn't like it—because I think they did—but because it was very heavy. These were ducks I bought at a poultry place and nailed to a wall.
So yeah, it happens. For Dark Side of the Moon, we did six or seven complex roughs of all sorts of different things that were eminently suitable. And we were very excited and looking forward to showing these different ideas to the band. At the actual meeting, we gathered around and…it took about a minute! They looked at all these things and looked at the prism and said, "We'll have that." We said, "Oh, there's this and this, have a look at this." And they said, "No, we'll have that. Now we've got to go back and do our real job." And they walked out of the room to continue recording.
GW You tell a great story in the book about shooting the pyramids in the middle of the night for the Dark Side poster.
THORGERSON I scared myself shitless doing it, too! I hired a taxi at 2 o'clock a.m. to take me out to the pyramids. So there I am, thinking I'll be fine, and I put the camera on the tripod to do a long-time exposure. It's a wonderful, clear night, and the moon is fantastic. So I'm doing it…and then, at like 4 o'clock a.m., these figures come walking across—soldiers, with guns. I thought, This is it. The game is up—young photographer dies a strange death in a foreign land. I was actually really scared. Of course, all my fears were unfounded. They were very friendly. They wanted a bit of bakshish, a little bit of money to go away. They kindly pointed out that where I stood was actually a firing range, and that they'd come to tell me it wasn't very cool for me to be there. If I was there first thing in the morning, I might get a bullet up my butt.
GW It's obvious from the book that you're very fond of Wish You Were Here. Did you feel you had to one-up Dark Side?
THORGERSON Not really. Dark Side… I think it's sort of goodish, good. Sort of. But I don't think it's a moving piece; I don't think it's as moving as I would like in terms of their music. So when Wish You Were Here came around, I was quite fueled up for it. In fact, I was even more fueled up for it. And I only suggested one thing to them, as opposed to several to choose from. It was quite nervy, 'cause normally for the Floyd and other bands I would suggest a few different roughs to choose from. But the one thing that was suggested to the band was what they used.
GW Those images were mostly inspired by "Shine on You Crazy Diamond," correct?
THORGERSON It was particularly to do with "Shine on You Crazy Diamond," yes. In a way, that theme could be expressed by one word: absence. It was absence in terms of relationships, absence in terms of previous members of the band. Also, absence in terms of a commitment to a cause or a project. This was a feeling that I think was in the air.
GW How involved did you get in those inner-band Floyd politics that started to surface during the mid Seventies?
THORGERSON The divorce, you mean? Quite a lot on Dave's side. Roger has not spoken to me since 1980. I was not privy to meetings they had. I just know that there was a very, very hard time indeed, with a lot of fighting.
GW Did you have a falling out with Roger?
THORGERSON I don't know whether it was a falling out. He didn't want to use me on The Wall, which is understandable. He was also supposedly cross with me for something, for a credit I'd given him in a book I'd done called Walk Away, Renee. An illustration of the Animals cover appeared in the book, and Roger didn't like the credit I'd given him. I corrected it on a reprint, so I don't know whether that was really what upset him.
GW How do you feel about doing album art in the CD age?
THORGERSON This is a continuing debate. The usual response of graphic designers is that the CD provides you with less of a graphic canvas to work on. But it has its own challenges. Also, designers are, to a great extent, realists; you've got to function, you've got to work. CDs are here. You've got to learn to like them. Obviously, though, I would rather have a bigger canvas. That's probably why I build big things sometimes. For Phish, I built this ball of yarn that is the size of a small house.
GW Part of the challenge seems to be in packaging, too, rather than simply designing a cover or a booklet.
THORGERSON I think designers are driven to do that because there's less of a canvas to work on with just the booklet. So where are they going to get their rocks off? Because it's smaller, it becomes more touchy, more of a tactile thing so that you can play more with textures and boxes and fold-outs and Digipaks—this pack, that pack, see-through trays, embossing, etc., etc. I have obviously indulged myself; I enjoyed greatly doing Pulse for the Floyd.
GW A spectacular CD package. How did that come about?
THORGERSON I think it came about for two particular reasons, one of which was that it was a live album. I wanted the package to be live, so we came up with a list of things that included balls and mazes. We had some that made a noise when you opened it, squeaked at you, some that smelled, others that you could see in the dark. And this one that had a flashing light thing, which reflected the heartbeat in Dark Side. And also it was a light, which is really handy 'cause obviously the Floyd have a really good light show. The other thing was that I was also fed up with having to squint at spine details. I thought, I'm going to make something that I know where it is when I want it. It was about a spine that was completely and utterly unique and recognizable, that says: "Here I am. You want to play me? I'm over here." I think it works really well. Mine still blinks.
GW I take it from your continued involvement with the Floyd that you view the current incarnation of the band as legitimate.
THORGERSON Yes, because Roger resigned. If you leave a band, I cannot see the moral imperative that would allow you to presume it finished. If you leave, you leave. And presumably a man of Roger's standing and intelligence left because that's what he wanted. I think it's peculiar because if it's not what he wanted, why did he do it? Nobody asked him to. Nobody pressured him to. So I presume he wanted to. But there was a lot of fighting afterward, so you have to presume that something went astray.
GW You chose the cover of The Division Bell to be the cover of your book. What's the special significance this piece has for you?
THORGERSON Obviously, we were tempted to choose Dark Side because of its success, but we eschewed that choice in favor of art. I hope it doesn't sound over-pretentious to say that. On a more simple level, this is the picture I have liked the most. It is the image I'm proudest of—at the moment. I think it says a lot about the Floyd. I think it says a lot about past Floyd. I think it says a lot about Roger. I think it says something about the layers of meaning, the elegance…the ghost, the spirit of Floyd. It says something about their ambiguities. It says all those things. It most particularly says something about departed friends.
GW And from your vantage point, do you think there is any truth to the rumors that Roger and the rest of the Floyd will be playing together again in the coming year?
THORGERSON [laughs] I've heard that. It sounds like bull to me. Although I think it would be quite interesting and dynamic if it did occur. I think you're talking about two huge talents here. And as much as there may have been friction, there's mileage to be made out of friction. But if you ask me if I think it's a reality—I don't think it's a reality. But then, of course, what's real and what's not with the Floyd?
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Armchair GM III: Tambellini takes the wheel
Robin Brownlee
April 12 2009 11:06AM
If coaching is the only problem, everything will be just fine when Craig MacTavish hands Edmonton Oilers owner Daryl Katz his resignation in coming days.
But it isn't so it won't be, and that's why there had better be some people following MacTavish out the door if the Oilers are serious about exiting the express lane to mediocrity the Boys on the Bus have been stuck on with the pedal to the metal for far too long.
With the Oilers packing up the dressing room Monday without a playoff date to keep for the third straight season, I expect it won't take long until we see GM Steve Tambellini handing out walking papers on a team that hit the ditch in the stretch on the way to an 11th-place finish.
Out of the playoffs five of the last seven seasons -- with the second-lowest point total in the eight seasons since Kevin Lowe took over from Glen Sather as GM in the summer of 2000 -- I can't see a reason why Tambellini would want to maintain the status quo.
It's time to take a different route.
Express to nowhere
While there's been a perception Tambellini hasn't been calling the shots this season without Lowe, in his new position as president of hockey operations, and Katz pulling the strings, that's not necessarily so. Rest assured, we'll see Tambellini make his mark on the organization in coming months.
A lot of fans, with reason, would look like to see changes start at the top with Lowe, but people wanting that pound of flesh likely won't get it because Lowe has already taken a step back with his new position.
Yes, Lowe is the architect of what fans see now. He built this team, and assembled the hockey operations staff. The failures and mediocrity -- as well as the unlikely run to the 2006 Stanley Cup final -- come back to him.
That said, Lowe isn't going anywhere. Piss and moan if you'd like, but that's the way I see the cards playing out. What fans can expect is to see Lowe further removed from hockey decisions and Tambellini given the latitude he needs to hire and fire as he sees fit.
Make no mistake, Tambellini will be steering this thing from now on. I wouldn't be surprised if Katz steps forward at Rexall Place Monday to make that clear -- just a hunch.
The Middle Men
Unless I've got the wrong read on things, the most significant changes will come in middle-management and the coaching staff.
MacTavish's decision to step aside will have the greatest impact, as that'll not only open up position to a list of candidates Tambellini had relationships with before he joined the Oilers, but prompt changes to the rest of the coaching staff.
No matter who takes over from MacTavish -- discussing candidates now is guess-work and nothing more -- it'll obviously impact the future of assistants Charlie Huddy, Bill Moores and Kelly Buchberger.
I'm told Buchberger will survive any purge, although he won't necessarily be back behind the bench. I expect Rob Daum, who took over the mess in Springfield this season, to be in the mix, but that'll be up to the new man. Moores? Huddy? That's less clear to me.
What is obvious is Tambellini has to take a look at Kevin Prendergast, the assistant GM and vice-president of hockey operations, which makes him the point man for the Cal Clutterbuck that's been the AHL farm.
Prendergast also oversees the professional and amateur scouting staff, a group that, from where I sit, needs a significant overhaul.
As for player moves, we'll be slicing and dicing that one to no end in coming days, and that's a whole other column or six.
I'm telling you
- Rod Phillips is going to take some time at his off-season home in Arizona to decide whether he's going to retire after 36 seasons as the Oilers radio voice and he'll make an announcement in May. While Phillips, 67, isn't saying which way he's leaning, I suspect The Skipper, one of the best ever to pick up a microphone in the NHL, will decide it's time to kick back, leave the white-knuckle flying to somebody else and retire. After so many years travelling with Phillips, I can yell you this much: there isn't anybody on the face of the planet who loves this organization more than he does or who has been prouder to be a part of it.
- If the Oilers are serious about overhauling the front office, they should make room in the mix for Ritch Winter, who is best known as a player agent and founder of the Sports Corporation in Edmonton, but has one of the sharper minds in the game.
-- Listen to Robin Brownlee every Thursday from 4 to 6pm on Just A Game with Jason Gregor on TEAM 1260.
I hate Winters but agree that he seems like a pretty sharp guy.
It would be interesting to see him in the organization but I doubt his ego would allow him to be part of any team in a capacity lower than GM.
April 12 2009, 11:20AM
Why is it that the offseasons in Edmonton have been more exciting than the actual season?
Buchberger is the new invincible guy on the team? Maybe Buchy can be Daum's asst in Springfield next season. Or he can teach Big Mac how to get punched in the face over and over without getting seriously hurt...that was his specialty in the NHL was it not?
Agreed...Winter should take KP's job. Like him or not, he would be an excellent person to have in the braintrust. Nice work here RB, especially the kind words about Rod. Living outside of Alberta the last couple years with limited cable made me more dependent on listening to his commentary online then I had been in years with all the televised games in Edmonton. He was the voice of the team, and had more heart and passion in his broadcasts then the entire team had on the ice some nights. If his time has truly come, he will be missed by everyone who calls themselves Oilers fans, and by many who are simply fans of the game.
Never thought of that Robin, in regards to Winter. That would be a brilliant move. IN the past he has been the most vocal in answering the question"why do players not want to play here". Would he accept that challenge? He could make an instant impact with his former clients.
Could you elaborate on why Buchberger is going to 'survive the purge'? Is he a closet hockey genius or something? I don't get it...(to be fair, I don't get much).
Damn Robin, I wish that last part was some thing you heard instead of your opinion. Maybe it's a little of both?
If Tambellini is to become the Oilers' GM and hockey operations boss in actual fact, I can't imagine he will be moving on a replacement of Craig MacTavish until the end of the playoffs. If this is the case, he should give consideration to Brent Sutter as coach. Apparently, Sutter's contract with New Jersey expires this season and he wants to move back to Alberta to be with his family. The Sutters live in the Red Deer area and Brent's original home was Viking. Edmonton is very close to home. Sad to say, for some reason, the Oiler management in the past has stayed away from the Sutters. Brent is a very bright, successful and tough taskmaster. He can operate successfully at the junior hockey level teaching young players and the NHL directing old pros. This isn't a time to be hiring old hockey buddies, not after 7 terrible seasons of mediocre performances and missed playoffs! As noted on the posts, the most exciting time for Oilers' fans has been the offseason. Says a lot about the regular season and missed playoffs.
April 12 2009, 12:05PM
I'm told Buchberger will survive any purge, although he won't necessarily be back behind the bench.
As a scout perhaps, ala Rob Daum last year?
This sucks. I still remember the 06 hangover, man, it's starting to seem so long ago. I think if I hadn't drank so, so much of the oil koolaid last summer, and been so pumped for this year and all the sucsess we where finally gonna have.....THIS SUCKS!!!!
@ Milli:
Yeah I drank the koolaid too, until I saw the line combos and role situation coming out of training camp. Then I put the koolaid down. I thought they'd eventually figure it out, but they never did.
To me, the botched training camp and early success really handcuffed this team. They were getting the results, but you could see there was something seriously wrong.
Agreed on everything but Rich Winter. Doesn't he only look out for #1? I love your work and your brutal honesty, Robin, but I just don't know about that. I am having trouble picturing him as a team player...but that said, I don't know the guy and maybe my views of him are way, way off.
Awesome story regarding Rod Phillips, too. Greatest commentator ever.
Keep 'em coming!
Winters is a smart and honest man. I gained new respect for him after reading his role as being one of the first people to question Alan Eagleson's business dealings and handling of the NHLPA and he helped bring him down. Winters goes back a long way on the NHL. I think he could bring a lot to the table. And hey, he lives here!
Remove Predergast and Lowe from all player personnel decisions ASAP! I used to be a believer...A believer of all the excuses that they made... The reign of mediocrity must end.
April 12 2009, 02:44PM
Jonathan Willis wrote:
I'm told Buchberger will survive any purge, although he won't necessarily be back behind the bench. As a scout perhaps, ala Rob Daum last year?
Perhaps on the staff here, as in upstairs in the press box again, or as a roving organizational coach, although his preference is to stay connected to the bench staff here.
Tod wrote:
Damn Robin, I wish that last part was some thing you heard instead of your opinion. Maybe it's a little of both?
The last part as in Ritch Winter? Agree with his takes or not, he's got a mind for the game and he knows how to evaluate talent.
Darren wrote:
Agreed on everything but Rich Winter. Doesn't he only look out for #1? I love your work and your brutal honesty, Robin, but I just don't know about that. I am having trouble picturing him as a team player…but that said, I don't know the guy and maybe my views of him are way, way off. Awesome story regarding Rod Phillips, too. Greatest commentator ever. Keep 'em coming!
As an agent, Ritch's job is to look after his clients first and he's been very good at that. When his job description changes, so will his priorities. You want Ritch W on your side.
Chris wrote:
Remove Predergast and Lowe from all player personnel decisions ASAP! I used to be a believer…A believer of all the excuses that they made… The reign of mediocrity must end.
I'm thinking you'll get your way.
RB, any thoughts on player personnel prior to your "whole other column or six?" One guy I'd like to see them take a run at is Buffalo's Paul Gaustad. He's locked up under contract for the next 3 years at a $2.3 million cap hit, which is a bit steep, but he has size, grit, wins 53% of his facoffs, fits the 3rd line centre need, and would be the kind of "young" vet that might bridge the age gap in the locker room. Thoughts?
April 12 2009, 04:25PM
Robin, what's your take on Laforge's role with the organization? Is he on the same shaky ground that Predergast is on?
Robin, I'm sorry, I just don't understand why anybody within the organization should get a pass. If the Oilers are truly serious about setting the ship upright, then they (all of them) must be considered fair game. Players and management.
After observing what Mike Gillis has been putting into place in Vancouver, and understanding that it's only one season: What's becoming clearer is that the status-quo isn't a realistic solution for the Oilers moving forward (man, I hate that term, but it's true). Outside the box thinking and personnel decisions are what is going save this franchise from spiraling into many a seasonal mess of mediocrity and ineptitude.
I think that writers such as yourself really need to step up and voice what many regular folks are saying: It's time to kill those sacred cows and save the team from itself.
Player procurement/development has to be #1 fix-it. Honest asset assessment has to be #2... willingness to step up and be honest with your paying public should be #3... Private business be damned.
April 12 2009, 05:28PM
@ humantorch: I thought LaForge might be on shaky ground with Katz coming in, but it hasn't played out that way, so I can't imagine it'll change now.
To be honest, I don't pay as much attention to LaForge's side of the business as the hockey ops side, so I might be out of touch.
April 12 2009, 05:32PM
@ elliot: Didn't I say that? I'm not talking about players today, so when I talk about the assistant GMs, middle management and the coaching staff, who am I missing? If you're looking for Lowe to pay for past mistakes, you're not going to get it in terms of a firing, but he's being moved away from from day-to-day decisions in favour of Tambellini. You want to sack Joey Moss?
Bucky should stay so he can
A) show Penner, Nilson, Hemer, Kotalik, Schremp, and Patty O, how to play with some heart (whichever of them stay on the team)
B) beat the living $hit out of them for not playing with heart. Something Moreau doesnt have the balls to do... does he know what the Moose did while he was here, has he seen the door in the old dressing room?
April 12 2009, 05:48PM
If Winters comes in I hope he brings a players mentality like Gillis did here in Vancouver. Little things like letting the players sleep in after a late travel trip has seemed to have helped.
No Ted Green?
April 12 2009, 06:53PM
The scary thing about Tamby taking over completely is that Vancouver is the only team with a worse drafting record than Edmonton. To be fair though Im not certain how much control Tamby had with Vancouvers drafting over the years perhaps Willis or someone else knows the brea down
West Coast Oil wrote:
If Winters comes in I hope he brings a players mentality like Gillis did here in Vancouver. Little things like letting the players sleep in after a late travel trip has seemed to have helped.
Gillis was one of the players that Eagleson screwed over and then Gillis stood up for himself as well. I like how this Winter's thing could go.
Just google Gillis Eagleson and you'll see.
April 12 2009, 08:01PM
I wonder if we're getting more foreshadowing of MacTavish's next move with the news he got no sniff on the coaching staff with Team Canada for the World Championship? MacTavish was supposedly in line for a look, but he's nowhere on the staff -- it's Lindy Ruff with Barry Trotz and Dave Tippett. Did Team Canada ask MacTavish only to have him say, "No thanks?"
Maybe it is time for the media to take some credit for creating needless distractions for the team this year and creating a lack of confidence and second guessing for players, management and coaches.
Right from the drop of the puck in the 1st game most media members felt they needed controversy to drive their ratings/ readership and drove their point home....sometimes if not often, ruthlessly. I believe that over the coarse of the year this contributed to the team's woe's. Yes, they are pro's but they are also human.
One of life's certainties is that if you are looking for negatives you will always find them and if you are looking for positives they are always there as well. Another certainty is that hind sight is always 20/20.
I would suggest that instead of taking the easy route next year the wannabe athlete, jealous of athletes salaries media folks make an effort to gain some insights into the team, the players and the game that would be of more interest to the real Oiler fans that want to read about and listen to shows that are objective, respective of how tough it is to play the game and not so interested in fostering their personal agendas for the sake of ratings.
I don't think I am the only Oiler fan that is sick of hearing negatives day in and day out.
April 12 2009, 08:18PM
Robin do you really think katz will be anywhere near Rexal on Monday? If tambalini is the one in charge to clean up the mess that was created by Lowe and Prendergast then i think he should be the one at the press conference telling the media and fans as to which direction this organization will be heading.
Robin Brownlee
Only to resurface in some role with the NYR?
April 12 2009, 08:36PM
bill wrote:
Maybe it is time for the media to take some credit for creating needless distractions for the team this year and creating a lack of confidence and second guessing for players, management and coaches.
From a media report:
"I find it difficult to believe that as a stute a hockey man as [the G.M.] can publicly absolve [te coach] of all blame for the team's problems. Although [the coach] was by no maens the club's only problem, he was the root of major failing which dragged so many of his players down to mediocrity this season. Loss of pride. Loss of desire. Loss of togetherness. Lack of leadership. Inability to deal with the shirkers and malcontents in his midst. This is what he is paid so handsomely to do."
That media report was from April 1974. The coach and G.M being criticized were Scotty Bowman and Sam Pollock. Bowman and Pollock would win four of the next five Stanley Cups after the reporter made that statement.
Point being, the media is always going to be critical - and they should expose problems and be honest! - but using them as an excuse for a team's performance is just silly.
April 12 2009, 08:36PM
@ Robin Brownlee:
I wondered the same thing.
Yup, I do believe this will be the year Tambo makes his mark on the team. I honestly think Rod was and is the best play by play man in the business. Sad day if he leaves and turns it over to Bob. I really think KLOWE should become coach. It only makes sense, he has signed most of these players so lets see him either be very successful and take the credit or see him struggle with the players he signed that no other team will take due to contracts, and then he gets his walking papers. I real man would step to the plate and take on this challenge.
I also believe Zoli is gone to the east to be with his family and try and win a cup.
firemactandkloweallready wrote:
Robin do you really think katz will be anywhere near Rexal on Monday? If tambalini is the one in charge to clean up the mess that was created by Lowe and Prendergast then i think he should be the one at the press conference telling the media and fans as to which direction this organization will be heading.
Since when are Prendergast and Lowe coaching. They didn't tell MacT to put Reddox on the first line. In fact, Tambellini ripped into the coaching staff for Reddox playing on the first line. MacT and the coaching staff is at fault for 80% of the teams woes. Stop defending the coaching staff so you can bash Lowe and Predergast.
April 12 2009, 08:53PM
@ Jasmine:
MacTavish was a long way from having a perfect season, but the vast majority of the problems with this team stemmed from inadequacies in the lineup:
- one veteran centre on the team - multiple penalty-killers leaving town with no replacements in sight - no reliable backup goaltender - the change in LW from a team strength to a team weakness
There were others, but that's a broad sampling. Lowe left the job half done in the summer, and MacTavish scrambled to win with a flawed roster. The fact that MacT probably could have utilized his pieces better doesn't excuse Lowe et al. for not providing a better roster.
As for Prendergast, he was the architect of the Springfield Falcons over the past two seasons. They've been an embarrassment, and the blame would seem to primarily lay at his feet.
Sorry Jonathon - just can't leave it there.
- One veteran centre. OK, this I agree with, but shouldn't you expect that at least one of Gags, Cogs or Brodz would have continued to develop somewhat? At least a bit? - Multiple penalty killers leaving town? Come on. Moreau, Pisani, Brodz and Horcoff were all pretty effective in the years previous and this year they weren't. Besides, shouldn't they have traded from the position of strength for what they needed elsewhere (offence)? Or would you rather have 9 of your starting 12 forwards be effective penalty killers but not score like previous years? - They had a perfectly reliable back up goalie. MacT ran him under a bus, remember? Not like he hasn't done that before (Conks). And what do you need a back up for if you never play him? - Are you saying that Viz and Cole were downgrades from Stoll and Green?
Poke Lowe in the eye all you want over things like stupid contracts, but he provided the coach with more talent than he had the year previously, who subsequently did less with it.
April 12 2009, 09:22PM
People who use the media as a scape goat for a teams fortunes make me laugh. The media simply reflects what is happening on the ice and if anything most of the Edmonton media this year did not hold the Oilers accountable enough for the bad play
@ Jonathan Willis:
i am not saying the only reason for the team's poor performance is the negative reporting - far from it
my point was that i think it contributed to it. the team is obviously fragile and it could not have helped when everyone is picking apart every mistake they make and not providing support when something good happens.
the media has a great deal of influence on some fans thoughts. again if you are looking for mistakes you will always find them.
on the point about bowman and pollack - that just supports my theory that some media is convinced they can have an influence on the team. how many media names are on the stanley cup? exactly - none
@ bill:
The media also ran Poti and Arnott out of town. Didn't MacT go after Rishaug for talking negative. I remember MacT saying "Why do you always have to be so negative?" The media influences the team quite a lot. There was hardly any positive article this season in either paper. Don't even get me started on TJ. The media needs to find a medium between negative and positive. The media has ran players out of town many a time.
@ Robin Brownlee:
What are the odds Mac T winds up in a role like Prendegasts?
@ Jonathan Willis:
How do we know the Oilers never had a reliable backup?
April 12 2009, 09:36PM
Agree completely. MacT never used what he had effectively. He killed Garon, never gave JDD a chance and should have used Brodz more in a face off situation as he was not the worst of the lot, he also had Pouliot but refused to use him in his natural position. Add to this demonizing Penner even though he was the most effective left wing on the first line, and lowering the trade value of many of our players by publicly criticizing them (including Schremp who wasnt even on the roster at the time). This year it seemed that MacT was going to jam square pegs into round holes whether it made sense or not
April 12 2009, 09:40PM
Sunday evening and MacT hasn't handed in his resignation. What's taking so damned long?
April 12 2009, 09:42PM
Jasmine wrote:
firemactandkloweallready wrote: Robin do you really think katz will be anywhere near Rexal on Monday? If tambalini is the one in charge to clean up the mess that was created by Lowe and Prendergast then i think he should be the one at the press conference telling the media and fans as to which direction this organization will be heading. Since when are Prendergast and Lowe coaching. They didn't tell MacT to put Reddox on the first line. In fact, Tambellini ripped into the coaching staff for Reddox playing on the first line. MacT and the coaching staff is at fault for 80% of the teams woes. Stop defending the coaching staff so you can bash Lowe and Predergast.
What are you on?I never defended Mac T's coaching,As far as K lowe and Prendergast they have made more mistakes with this organization than the coach,Prendergast handling of the farm team is a Joke he is also in charge of scouting,he has input on trades i am sure he could have advised K lowe on Penner before we went out and signed him as far as Lowe goes he was throwing money around like a sailor on leave in a brothel.How many bad signings has he done and look at his trade record yet he gets a free pass he should also be out of a job.The Horcoff signing 7.5 million over five years when he still had one year left on his contract give me a break he could have had him this summer for 3-4 million less.We have serious problems top to bottom in this organization, it is unfortunate that some people will lose there jobs when others get to keep them when they should also be shown the door.
@ Jasmine:
i agree - hearing both sides would be nice.
when we get out shot and win - we stole the game. when we out shoot a team and lose - we are bad and can't score.
how can these statements both be objective?
April 12 2009, 09:49PM
Regarding the media comments. Im not sure where everyone who feels the media was part of the problem lives but Im in Vancouver and the media here is tougher on the Canucks then the Edmonton media is on the Oilers. It is the coaches responsibility to get the players to look past the comments of the media and fans
@ West Coast Oil: gee i guess if it happens in vancouver that makes it right
sorry - lol
@ West Coast Oil: Interesting point re: VCR media. From what I remember from many trips to the Left Coast, media can be absolutely brutal. There is the other side to the coin. I have the unfortunate luck to live in Calgary. Here the media is the softest I've ever heard. They go out of their way to make excuse after excuse for players and coaches alike.
About 3 weeks ago after the Flames beat San Jose, the collective discussion was whether or not the Flames should start getting respect enough to be consider among the elite in the NHL. Over the last 10 days or so when it became evident that they wouldn't be hanging on to first place in the division, the same media changed the banter from 'among the elite' to doesn't really matter where they finish in the regular season as long as they are sucessful in the playoffs.
Imagine what the discussion would be in Edmonton or Vancouver if either the Oil or Nucks had lost a 10 point lead in the last 2 months of the season to finish in the bottom half of the playoff teams.
The Media has a job to do - report and opine. don't like the tone? Try winning a few more. It works!
April 12 2009, 10:13PM
Didnt you get the memo Vancouver is the new centre of the universe.. Lol
The media here is brutal. When Vancouver got over their 9 game losing streak and had won 6 straight or something like that the media was criticizing Luongo over comments he made on CBC and for his play because it wasnt perfect. They criticise and whine even when things are good but they are also the biggest homers. Its quite disturbing actually.
One thing I noticed is when Tamby was here he was always available to the media and would go on the Team radio station at least once a week. It seems he has gone into hiding in Edmonton or is it Im just missing his updates and interviews?
April 12 2009, 10:18PM
firemactandkloweallready wrote:
Robin do you really think katz will be anywhere near Rexal on Monday? If tambalini is the one in charge to clean up the mess that was created by Lowe and Prendergast then i think he should be the one at the press conference telling the media and fans as to which direction this organization will be heading.
I'm told it's unlikely Katz will be anywhere near Rexall Place Monday. Like I said, I was playing a hunch. I'm told it won't happen.
Mr P wrote:
How do we know the Oilers never had a reliable backup?
Uhhh...game 82. JDD was a sieve.
April 12 2009, 10:23PM
Mr P wrote:
How do we know the Oilers never had a reliable backup?
Because the guy they used has lousy AHL numbers.
Seems to me most of the sports media, like most of the fans, are herd animals, merely mindlessly following the leader all the way over the cliff. Reminds me of the zebras in Madagascar II, all saying and doing exactly the same thing at the same time. Sometimes it looks like they write each others stuff, its so much the same. They also like to paint everything with a barn brush. Only one guy I ever saw could paint a recognizable picture with a barn brush has been dead for years. Seems to me its been years since we've had a really good sports journalist in Canada, though on the local scene Brownly and Barnes come close. I suppose the ease of the internet for rumours makes the two lazy to do real leg work, not to say the libel laws making even actual facts being two expensive after the court costs.


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"It's just the most amazing thing to love a dog, isn't it? It makes our relationships with people seem as boring as a bowl of oatmeal."
– John Grogan
"We are made to persist. That's how we find out who we are."
– Tobias Wolff
I've not read any of Dennis Lehane's books, mostly mysteries, but I've seen a few films developed from his books.
"Shutter Island" I hated; "Mystic River," though dark and morose, was worth the ticket.
Truth is, I know little about this American author from the Boston area, but I like him.
Though I have a great respect for most wordsmiths who keep at the task of writing, that's not why I have a new admiration for Lehane.
It's because of Tessa.
Adopted by Lehane and his family, Tessa is a beagle who disappeared Christmas Eve.
Lehane has pulled out all the stops in order to find this family pet.
Lehane loves Tessa. Therefore, I love Lehane.
No one is being accused of pupnapping Tessa – she pushed her way out a gate with a latch that did not lock.
After that, details are sketchy.
But since the four-legged former stray went missing, Lehane has launched a search of amazing magnitude.
Thousands of folks from all over the country have visited the Finding Tessa Facebook page. An email blast of enormous proportions has been circulating since Tessa's disappearance.
Lehane and countless others have spent hours a day searching for the beloved beagle, a Georgia stray adopted in Florida and now a resident of Massachusetts.
The author has offered a monetary award to anyone who is able to locate Tessa. This includes a promise of "no questions, absolutely no prosecution," just in case someone has been harboring the now famous canine.
And that's not all.
The person who finds Tessa will have a character in Lehane's next book named for them, he's pledged. And it won't be just a small role.
I can tell you, blogs are blazing with banter about this beagle. It seems to me, most folks are more interested in the 15 or so minutes of fame than the cash. Or, of course, the dog.
One woman wrote this: "I'll help him find his dog, but I want to choose what sort of character I get to be …"
Are you kidding me? Obviously, she's never loved and lost a pet.
Here's hoping Tessa finds her way home. I'd be helping if I lived close enough.
Not for my name in a book or a reward in my pocket.
I'd do it for the love of Tessa.


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Milena Grzybowska
As my area of expertise is osteology (the scientific study of bones), I'm working in Cemetery D under Michaela Binder's supervision. This is my first season on the Amara West project and the second day onsite has already brought the excitement I was hoping for.
I completed the pre-excavation documentation of feature G309 on Friday, and yesterday started excavating its central portion, with four local workmen, Nail, Mohammed, Ashmi and Akasze. The south-west interior corner of a building appeared very quickly. Brushes and trowels in hands, we were eager to define the extent of this structure.
The surviving remains, although presently not very high – 40 centimetres at the southern edge – still suggest a structure of impressive scale. Eight metres long and four metres wide, it is larger than the examples exposed previously. Constructed on an east-west axis, the grave originally consisted of a chapel, at the western edge of which stood a small brick pyramid.
What next? We will excavate the burial shaft, which might be over two metres in depth. Judging from the extent of the buildings and the adjacent mound of debris, whose height should reflect the depth of the grave, this phase of excavation might take some time. Let's hope our patience will be rewarded with intact human remains and associated burial assemblages.
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Over 7,000 pounds of food donated to Richland Food Bank
Richland High School's Munch Madness Food Drive was a success.
Students and staff collected 7,125 pounds of non-perishable food items this past week.
All the food items were placed on a school bus and transported today to the Richland Food Bank.
Richland High leadership students coordinated the week-long drive. "We hope this donation will help out many in our community who are in need," said Jim Qualheim, Richland High leadership advisor.


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The DWR in the Southeast Region conducted a trend net survey at Huntington North Reservoir and Joe's Valley Reservoir.
Calvin Black, fisheries biologist with the DWR in Southeast Region said, the Utah Division of Wildlife Southeast Region Aquatics staff completed the annual trend net survey for Huntington North Reservoir.
Biologists found good numbers of rainbow trout, largemouth bass and wipers, but the surprise of the day was the size of the wipers. Two wipers were collected that measured over 20 inches and 5 pounds. Overall the wipers collected ranged from 10.5 to 20.5 inches. Several largemouth bass were collected in the 15 to 19 inch range, weighing between 2.5 and 5 pounds.
Thirteen to 18 inch rainbow trout were abundant in the catch also. The trout fishing should be great from shore and boat over the next few weeks with the warming temperatures. The wiper bite will turn on this weekend with daytime air temps in the mid-eighties. Use crank baits, spinner baits or jigs from the shore or boat along the dam.
At Joe's Valley Reservoir several age classes of tiger muskie were again collected with the larger fish averaging 37 to 38" and up to 13-14 pound. Splake of varying sizes were collected, some cutthroat trout, and a six pound tiger trout. The tiger muskie sampled remain an encouraging sign.
"Both fisheries, Joe's Valley and Huntington North are developing the best we could expect. Larger tiger muskies and wipers are showing up at both, respective, places. This will provide local anglers with some quality fishing opportunities and increased variety without having to travel long distances across the state. Also, 28,000 kokanee salmon fingerlings (2-3") were stocked into Electric Lake last week. These fish will require a couple of seasons to mature into a catchable size, but anglers have something else to look forward to," said Justin Hart.


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Donald Ervin Rust
Graveside memorial services for Donald Ervin Rust will be held at 2 p.m. on Saturday, June 14, at Cortez Cemetery.
Donald was born April 19, 1941, in Cortez. He passed away on January 30, 2014 at the age of 72.
For a number of years, Donald had a saw and lawn mower and then worked with his father and brother, Glen and Wayne Rust, Inc. He looked after emptying the dumpster at City Market for several years.
Donald was involved in the community through the First Baptist Church and the JayCees. His favorite was the toy collection they did every Christmas. Donald loved going fishing and camping with the family. Later on he took up wood working and spent many hours in his shop making signs, butterflies, key racks, etc., which he loved to give away. He was the most proud of his Galloping Goose train replicas.
Surviving Donald is his sister, Maxine Baker and her husband, Don, their children, Glenda (Stan) and daughters, Cheryl and Gwen, Leta, David and children, April, Levi and Colton, George (Cherryl) and son, Chris all of Canada, Dan Rust and sons, Larry, Gary and Simeon, Cindy Durall (Gerry) and daughters, Erica and Kerri, Coral Loyd (Danny) and son, DJ, Todd Rust and daughter, Amanda, Scott Rust and children, Bailey, Paige and Payton; as well as five great great nieces and seven great great nephews; an uncle, two aunts; and many cousins and friends.
Donald was preceded in death by his parents, Glen and Billie Rust; his brother and sister-in-law, Wayne and Bonnie Rust; and his nephew, Gary Don Baker.


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They are having children through heterosexual marriage, adoption, artificial insemination with donor sperm, and surrogacy and egg donation. Issues may arise medically, legally, socially and emotionally. Counseling prior to embarking on the path to parenthood, during the process, and after a family is formed is recommended.
All potential parents share concerns about their ability to be good parents, the affordability of parenting, questions about the suitability of bringing children into a world like the one in which we live, and about how a child changes a person's/couple's life. Couples using ART may also share concerns about the biological connection to the child; conceiving with a third party; societal attitudes towards ART; educating family, friends, and the general public; and disclosure to the child and family. In addition, there are unique issues for gay and lesbian couples.
These issues include internalized homophobia and societal homophobia. Internalized homophobia is a term used to represent the negative and distressing thoughts and feelings experienced by lesbians and gay men about their sexuality which are attributed to experiences of cultural heterosexism and victimization. Find a clinician who displays sensitivity and awareness of lesbian and gay clients' unique issues.
The first question many same-sex couples ask is whether or not it is OK to have a child. These couples may wonder if friends and family will support their choice and whether their children will suffer from having same-sex parents instead of having a mother and father. Confronting internalized homophobia, accepting oneself completely, and addressing unexamined feelings must also be addressed by the would-be parents.
ART options require decisions such as whose sperm or eggs to use and who will carry the child. Furthermore, the partner whose uterus, sperm or eggs were not used may question their status as a full and equal parent.
The couple should decide what last name to use and what their children will call them. The couple should discuss how to talk to their children about their family. Parents are encouraged to tell age-appropriate truth and avoid lying or deceit. The couple may wonder how much to tell others about the details of their children's conception (e.g., who was the sperm donor, etc.). It is suggested that parents share with others what feels comfortable and appropriate.
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I have been debating in my mind whether Juubito can actually be defeated with the Juubi sealed inside him, or will it have to be extracted from him, like with one of the uzumaki sealing jutsu's that Kushina taught Minato. Or, could Juubito be brought to an end by talk no jutsu, not in the sense that he will convert to a good person and abandon his dream world, but in the sense that Naruto would never accept his ideal world. I thought about this, and Obito believes he is doing the ninja world a favor by activating this type of genjutsu, and if every living person were to destest this, perhaps Obito would be emotionally weakened by that, like he was with kakashi?
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AeroCase 10.8-14
Elegant pilot case for notebooks, printers, projectors and accessories.
The AeroCase by DICOTA is the optimum travel companion for the transportation of notebooks, printers, projectors, mobile accessories and documents. It is made from especially robust Koskin and due to its integrated handle and frame reinforcement its shape is very stable. Your notebook is ideally protected against transportation damage in the detachable, optimally padded notebook pocket. This pocket is separately lockable and can also be used without AeroCase.
Documents can be easily stored in the concertina file integrated into the main pocket as well as in the zip pocket on the rear side of the case. Printers, projectors or DIN A4 folders are just as securely stored for transportation in the large main pocket as additional mobile accessories. Mobile phones, pens, business cards etc. can be stored in the side pocket, in the case lid and the lockable zip-down workstation attached to the front side. The mains adapters are comfortably transported in a separate cable bag. The high-quality 'Franzen' combination locks ensure additional security on the road. A removable shoulder strap as well as a trolley tie strap on the rear side make transportation easier. *All the devices pictured (such as notebook, printer etc.) are not included!


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I honestly thought sting and rogue were making up stories about killing dragons, but they see to geninunely believe it.
I cant wait to find out why.
I love natsu so its great we will see him go 2 on 1 but I really want to see what else Gajeel has as well. >.<


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What's your predictions on how Naruto will continue after Akatsuki drama is over? Alot of questions in this manga are out in the open and I dont think they all will be answered just by defeating Akatsuki.
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We've also got lots more drink options with no added sugar, like fruity Robinsons Squash'd. Kids can pick their favourite flavour and squeeze their own jug of squash for the whole family to share. You can refill your jug as many times as you like, and you can even take home any that you don't use – so when your little tennis stars come in from practising their serve in the garden, you'll have the perfect refreshment waiting for them…
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Topic: iPad 3
AT&T expands 4G LTE coverage to 16 new US markets
05/29/2013, 11:05 am
In another 16 markets, users of Apple's iPhone 5 and LTE-enabled iPads will now find that their devices are able to access much greater speeds, as AT&T has taken its 4G LTE coverage live in more areas across the U.S.
US Air Force expects to save $50M with use of 18K Apple iPads
05/17/2013, 09:05 am
The purchase of 18,000 iPads for use as electronic flight bags has set the stage for the U.S. Air Force to save more than $50 million over the next 10 years.
AT&T's 4G LTE network to hit 79 new markets by summer
04/10/2013, 03:04 pm
AT&T-based users of Apple's iPhone 5 and LTE-enabled iPads will soon find their data access speeds greatly increased in a number of markets, as the carrier announced on Tuesday the expansion of its 4G LTE network to 79 new areas.
Sprint's 4G LTE network expanding to 28 more cities in coming months
01/17/2013, 02:01 pm
U.S. carrier Sprint announced Thursday that its 4G LTE network, which offers faster connections to the iPhone 5 and Apple's latest iPads, will expand to 28 new cities in the coming months.
AT&T rolls out 4G LTE network in 15 new US markets
12/21/2012, 08:12 am
AT&T this week announced that its high-speed 4G LTE network — compatible with Apple's latest iPhone 5, iPad and iPad mini — has launched in 15 new markets, and also expanded coverage in a handful of other locations.
Apple wins patents for iPhone & iPad designs by Steve Jobs & Jony Ive
12/04/2012, 12:12 pm
Apple on Tuesday secured ownership of a number of key design-related patents covering the iPhone 4, credited in part to Steve Jobs, as well as the L-shaped MagSafe charging connector, and the iPad with Smart Cover.
Black Friday: Apple knocks up to $61 off 9.7-inch iPads, full stock of iPad minis at MacMall
11/23/2012, 04:11 am
As part of Apple's Black Friday sale, the company has cut between $41-$61 off the new iPad with Retina display and $31 off 16GB iPad 2s. Meanwhile, Mac minis remain regularly priced and won't ship for two weeks, but MacMall has virtually the entire iPad mini product line in stock and ready to ship immediately.
Best Buy knocks $50 off 3rd-generation WiFi iPads and throws in free $75 gift card
11/21/2012, 09:11 am
In the lead up to Black Friday, Best Buy has dropped the price on 32GB and 64GB 3rd-generation WiFi iPads with Retina Display, and is also throwing in a free $75 Best Buy gift card with each purchase.
AT&T launches 4G LTE in 24 new markets including Denver & Columbus
11/16/2012, 08:11 am
Just in time for the launch of Apple's LTE-capable iPad mini and fourth-generation iPad, AT&T this week turned on its 4G LTE network in 24 markets across the U.S.
Microsoft Surface screen falls short of Retina iPad, but outperforms iPad 2
11/12/2012, 04:11 pm
A head-to-head comparison of the Surface display with competing tablets has found Microsoft's tablet beats out similarly equipped screens, but can't take down the Retina display on Apple's 9.7-inch iPad.
Apple begins testing iOS 6.1 with new Map Kit framework for third-party apps
11/01/2012, 02:11 pm
Apple on Thursday provided developers with a prerelease version of its forthcoming iOS 6.1 update, featuring improvements to its Maps application programming interface, and also issued a beta of Xcode 4.6.
Apple releases iOS 6.0.1 to fix screen, camera flash and Exchange issues
11/01/2012, 01:11 pm
Apple on Thursday issued iOS 6.0.1 for the iPhone, iPad and iPod touch, a minor update that addresses a number of small bugs, including a screen glitch that would appear with the onscreen keyboard and an issue that would cause the camera flash to not go off.
Apple removes prostitution services from Siri results in China
10/31/2012, 11:10 am
In response to criticism in China that Siri could find local prostitution services, Apple has removed escort services from search results in the region.
Rumor roundup: What to expect from Apple's 'iPad mini' event
10/22/2012, 04:10 pm
With only hours to go before Apple's special event kicks off in San Jose, Calif., AppleInsider offers a collection of the latest news and rumors about the "iPad mini," 13-inch MacBook Pro with Retina display, and other products said to be in Apple's pipeline.
Apple reportedly testing iOS 6.0.1 with keyboard, camera flash, Wi-Fi fixes
10/22/2012, 10:10 am
Apple is said to have provided its U.S. carrier partners with a pre-release build of iOS 6.0.1, an update for its mobile operating system that will reportedly address a graphical glitch with the virtual keyboard, as well as issues that would cause the camera's flash to not go off when expected.
Display expert refutes Microsoft claim that Surface RT display is "sharper" than iPad
10/18/2012, 05:10 pm
A display expert on Thursday compared the technology powering Microsoft's upcoming Surface RT with the iPad 2 and third-generation iPad's displays, seemingly debunking previous claims made by Microsoft that claimed its new tablet would be "sharper" than competing Apple products.
Microsoft says Surface screen outperforms iPad Retina display
10/17/2012, 01:10 pm
Even though Microsoft's new Surface has a lower resolution screen than the Retina display on the new iPad, one Microsoft engineer has argued that the Surface offers superior picture quality because of "ClearType" display technology.
'Infinity Blade: Dungeons' for Apple's iOS delayed until 2013
10/17/2012, 01:10 pm
"Infinity Blade: Dungeons," a game that was shown off alongside the new iPad with Retina display in March, may not launch until around the time when Apple's full-size iPad is expected to hit the market.
Still in beta: Siri falls short when searching for Apple retail stores
10/03/2012, 04:10 pm
A year after Siri first launched, Apple's personal assistant still falls short when accomplishing basic tasks that one might assume would be a priority for the company, such as finding a local Apple Store.
Barnes & Noble introduces 9" Nook HD+ touchscreen tablet
09/26/2012, 11:09 am
Barnes & Noble has announced two new tablets in its latest Nook lineup, led by a larger 9-inch model that will compete more directly with Apple's iPad, as well as the new 8.9-inch Kindle Fire HD.


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"Today was crushing, it was an absolutely crushing loss," stated SUU head coach Becky Hogan. "We are a better team than we show. We are done learning these lessons over-and-over again, so now we are in a position where we can start building for next year."
The match remained scoreless until the final 20 minutes when Northern Colorado forward Shanlie Anderson gathered the ball in the box and fired it into the net to put the Bears out in front 1-0.
The Thunderbirds trailed with less than 10 minutes remaining when freshman Logan Harker broke away behind the UNC defense and headed a shot over the charging goalkeeper Natalie D'Adamio at the top of the box. The Bears cleared the ball at the goal line, but D'Adamio was given a red card for running through Harker and not playing the ball. Hernandez put away the ensuing penalty kick to pull the score even at 1-1.
"It was a heroic effort by Logan Harker, she is just a kid that refuses to give up," commented Hogan. "Sabrina has been playing great lately, she really wanted to win it and was going to do whatever it took."
The game headed into overtime with Northern Colorado down a player due to the ejection. SUU had several solid scoring opportunities in the extra period, but was unable to convert any of the tries. The Bears were eventually awarded a free kick within striking range following a Southern Utah penalty. Ambree Bellin sent the ball into the box where it was redirected on goal by Day for the game-winner.
Both teams attempted 12 shots in the contest with five tries on goal. Northern Colorado held a 7-2 advantage on corner kicks. Both sides drew several cautions as the Thunderbirds collected five yellow cards while the Bears picked up to yellows and one red. Hernandez' goal was her third of the season, tying her for the team lead with Nancy Brich. Sophomore goalkeeper Tessa Christensen recorded three saves while making her seventh appearance in goal this year.
Southern Utah closes out the season with road matches at Eastern Washington and Montana this week. The Thunderbirds will visit the Eagles on Friday at 4:00 p.m. (MT) followed by a matchup with the Grizzlies on Sunday at 1:00 p.m. Coverage of SUU soccer is available on www.suutbirds.com.


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The Emery Spartan wrestlers hosted Duchesne on the mat this past week at the Spartan Center. In JV action Keith Bird and Cort Jensen both had pins. In varsity action at 145 weight class Jace Guymon defeated Corey Wilson with a 13-10 decision. In the 152 weight class Chet Funk from Emery was pinned by Max Lewis. Jake Gardner of Emery pinned Jordan Lewis at 160.
In the 171 class, Nathan Mecham of Emery was pinned by Selby Rinehart from Duchesne. Drew Bohn in the 215 weight class pinned his opponent. In the lighter weights, Spencer Fehlberg pinned his opponent. Tice Guymon was pinned at 112. Zac Walls was pinned at 125. Dakota Tucker was pinned at 130. Clay Collard pinned his man at 135 and Haden Hatch finished the match by pinning his opponent. Emery was 33 points and Duchesne 30 points in the score not counting forfeited matches.


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This class explains how family historians can accurately deduce ancestors' identities and many aspects of their lives by digging below "surface information" in genealogical records and combining information from several sources. Useful in many situations, inferential methodology is especially helpful where records do not state relationships. Because of extensive multimedia, this course is best viewed on a higher bandwidth internet connection.


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Catalogue Number: N6K-E6S6
- Author: Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall
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- Publisher:Bloomsbury Publishing PLC
- Published:30 August 2012
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- Genre: TV celebrity chef cookbooks
- Illustrations: Colour
How often have you wished there was a magic formula to simplify cooking? Well, there is. Put three good things together on a plate and, somehow, the whole is always greater and more delicious than the sum of its parts. Looking back over nearly two decades of professional cookery, Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall has worked out the combinations that make magic. Salty, sweet, crunchy. Sharp, rich, crumbly. Hot, bland, crisp. Think scones with jam and cream, fish and chips with mushy peas, or porridge with golden syrup and cream. Hugh has used the formula of three to create more than 175 recipes, both well-loved classics and brand new ideas, based on trios like squash, ricotta and ham; aubergine, tomatoes and chickpeas; clams, tomatoes and garlic; chicken, tomatoes and tarragon; pork, potatoes and apples; pasta, courgettes and mozzarella; strawberries, cream and shortbread; and chocolate, ginger and digestives ...The list goes on. With sumptuous photography from Simon Wheeler, this book will unlock a whole new world of fantastic food. Three Good Things. It really is that simple.
Author's Biography
Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall is a writer, broadcaster and campaigner. His series for Channel 4 have earned him a huge popular following, while his River Cottage books have collected multiple awards including the Glenfiddich Trophy (twice), the Andr Simon Food Book of the Year (three times), the Michael Smith Award (twice) and, in the US, the James Beard Cookbook of the Year. Hugh lives in Devon with his family.