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They're learning from day one whether you like it or not... so might as well start teaching them the right things... instead of letting them learn the wrong ones...
They're learning from day one whether you like it or not... so might as well start teaching them the right things... instead of letting them learn the wrong ones...
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Excellent topic!
"The bird hunter watches only the dog, and always knows where the dog is, whether or not visible at the moment. The dog nose is the bird hunters eye. Many hunters who carry a shotgun in season have never learned to watch the dog, or interpret his reaction to scent."
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I could not agree more with Steve's general philosophy regarding the fact that "training" starts long before pup ever comes hime from the breeder. I often have folks ask me "how do you get such a young pup to do those things"? I tell them, "pup already has these things in him, you just have to know how to let them out"! Now of course, this is a gross over-simplification, but those of us that have successfully trained retrievers and other breeds, know that this premise rings with much truth at it's root. Certainly as Steve suggests, starting with a pup with the genetic "right stuff" helps in mapping for a recruit gundog pup to have a journey pointed toward success.
Like Steve and others have suggested, much of the "early training" I do with a pup is the shaping of foundational cornerstones of ability and desire of a pup to learn. A vast array of experiences are provided for pup to socialize and to be introduced / exposed to the vast number of relationships and objects that the pup will by necessity deal with throughout life.
I structure "early lessons" to be fun for pup, his learning experience remaining painless all while shaping
desired behaviors in each moment spent with the little student. I focus on pre-planning success into each concept I am working on with the pup, the objective being to build pup's self confidence and ability as well as desire to learn. Good trainers realize early NOT to test pup (experienced trainers already know what pups are capable of, thus testing as such is really meaningless), time spent building success is far more important. I train with a focus on shaping behaviors for success and as sequential building blocks for increasingly complex concepts or desired behaviors. Secondly, I continually re-visit previously "taught" behaviors while considering pup's overall training as "an ongoing work in process". Pup's training will really continue throughout life, needing to maintain behaviors that have been taught over a long period of time. Much like a knife, pup is continually worked with, but must be maintained to keep a well honed edge.
By the way Steve, that wee pup Homer "takes a nice line".
Cheers Mates,
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I agree completely with everything mentioned about training puppies early and often. It is necessary to remember the very short attention spans and accommodate them. Puppies can be taught many things including simple handling at a very early age.
My question was more along the lines of using birds. Many puppies cannot properly handle a full grown mallard. They drag it back by the wing, head or feet. This is not a habit I personally wish to promote. The birds most puppies can handle well are typically doves, quail or pigeons. All very thin skinned game & when combined with sharp puppy teeth can tear. A taste of fresh meat & a hungry puppy (they are always hungry) can end in disaster. Teal would also be an option but in my duck camp teal go on the table. We eat what we kill & teal are second only to speckle bellies as table fare.
I am very much a proponent of introducing birds early in a controlled environment. My only concern was overuse because of the reasons already mentioned. If a pup is hesitant around birds, I use them as much as needed to overcome it.
Mark Land
Good topic and video. I noticed the pup went out over the obstacle but returned to the side. It is pretty minor now but I would add another garment so the pup has to come back across something.
Tom Wall
In my opinion, most people are way too focused on the retrieving with young retriever pups. I think that those first few months are a great time to teach pup "citizenship" and helping them learn to learn. With a well-bred pup, the retrieving will take care of itself if you follow a good program. Of course, throwing a rolled-up sock down the hall a couple of times a day and introducing a clip-wing pigeon at the appropriate time are great things to do, but much more important is teaching pup to sit calmly to receive affection, to sit and wait to enter or exit doorways, to kennel on command, to walk on lead, etc. If you do it properly, you will be miles ahead by ensuring that pup has some basic obedience skills, but much more importantly, your pup should have a solid understanding of where he fits into his "pack" and how to deal calmly with exciting situations. I've gotten far too many pups in for training that had no concept that a human could dictate what they could or could not do. They lived the first 6 or 7 months of their lives with no rules, boundaries or limitations and then had quite a shock when they got into professional training. To be honest, I'm not impressed by those pups that are racing out to do big marks at 4 months old. That won't make a hill of beans of difference when that dog is 3 years old. But how that pup is conditioned to behave at 4, 5 and 6 months old will make an impression that will have an impact its entire life. One man's opinion.
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Pat Nolan's Early Puppy Training Instructional information is very good. I've incorporated many of the puppy drills into my early puppy training.
For example, I really like the drills with the paper plates or dixie cups
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Great point Steve. As an Obedience Competitor we start with our puppies the day we get them home. All fun and games and treats, treats, treats! I like to teach using "games and treats" with my pup 5 times a day at only 5 minute intervals each time. Keep them wanting more. And the more repetition there is the quicker they will pick it up. In just a few weeks time you can have your dog doing a sit, down, stand, heel (both sides) front sit, recalls, baby jumps (usually just over my legs when sitting on the floor) and they never even knew they were in puppy kindergarten. I also like to have them climb over and through different kinds of obstacles just as you showed in your video while retrieving or doing a recall. A simple towel, some pvc, small cardboard boxes, play tunnels sold for cats etc. Be creative but keep it safe and fun.
I agree that it makes a huge difference if the pup had been socialized at the Breeder's. I can't say enough of how much of an impact that has on each puppy!
Happy training!

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We offer many services that are designed for expectant parents and the newborn. Please give us a call to learn more about Obstetric Care at St. Anthony Community Hospital.
The warmth and expert skills of our staff will guide you through a safe and memorable beginning with your newest family member. We are looking forward to meeting and caring for you and your family.
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This relaxing and breathing technique, often called "natural childbirth," is designed to reduce the perception of pain during labor.
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- Epidural Anesthesia
This popular anesthesia method provides continuous pain relief during labor and delivery and is safe and effective. A small tube is placed in your lower back, allowing your anesthesiologist to administer medication to "block" the pain of labor. Pain management is an individualized process to meet each patient's needs. These pain relief techniques can be used alone or in tandem. Mothers may begin with natural childbirth, then decide to have epidural anesthesia as labor progresses. Should you require a Cesarean Section, an epidural/spinal or general anesthesia is used depending on your medical needs. After a Cesarean Section, each patient is followed by a board certified anesthesiologist to ensure a post-operative comfort level that allows mother and baby to bond.
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Having a baby is one of life's most wonderful and joyous experiences. Throughout your pregnancy, while you will be excited about the upcoming birth of your baby, you will most likely also feel some apprehension and have many questions. At the Kennedy Birthing Center of St. Anthony Community Hospital, we want to do everything possible to make your pregnancy worry-free and enjoyable. That's why we are pleased to introduce our Maternity Consultant. Your Maternity Consultant will create a link between you and the Hospital early in the pregnancy.
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Cat 6 lead authors: WU cofounder Dr. Jeff Masters (right), who flew w/NOAA Hurricane Hunters 1986-1990, & WU meteorologist Bob Henson, @bhensonweather
By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 01:27 AM GMT on Juli 01, 2010
Hi, Dr. Rob Carver filling in for Jeff on the late shift.
1AM CDT Update
Alex is weakening as it moves inland As of the 1AM advisory, Alex's winds have slowed to 85 mph. Alex is at 24.1N, 98.2W which is 35 miles northwest of La Pesca, MX and 135 miles south-southwest of Brownsville, TX. Alex is moving west-southwest at 10 mph. Alex may be slowing down, but it's still producing a lot of rain. Radar-derived rainfall estimates shows that Alex is covering widespread areas with 0.5-0.8 inches of rain in the last hour. Over the past 24 hours, the Rio Grande at Brownsville has risen 10 feet, but it's still about 14 feet away from the flood stage of 27 feet.
The center of Alex's eye has made landfall according to NHC. They state that 9PM CDT, Alex's center crossed the shoreline in the municipality of Soto La Marina, MX, which is 110 miles south of Brownsville. At the time of landfall, Alex had wind speeds of 105 mph, making it a Category 2 storm on the Saffir-Simpson hurricane wind scale
With wind speeds near 100 mph, Alex is nearing landfall on the Mexican coast. As of 8PM CDT, Alex is at 24.3N, 97.5W, 40 miles northeast of La Pesca, MX and 110 miles south of Brownsville. It is moving west at 10 mph, and the center of the eye should arrive onshore around 9PM CDT. Alex has a very large circulation, hurricane force winds extend 70 miles away from the the center, and tropical storm force winds are 205 miles away. A MADIS station located in South Padre Island, TX has reported wind gusts of 60 mph and sustained winds of 35-40 mph. We have a plot of that station's data here, and it looks like the wind speed sensor failed around 733PM CDT. Unfortunately, that's a common fate for weather stations near a landfalling storm.
One of the last eye penetrations of Alex occured at 640PM CDT, and they found an partially complete eye with a 12 mile radius. The minimum central pressure was 948 mb, a 2 mb drop since the 6PM update, and the maximum wind estimate was 94 mph using the microwave radiometer.
Fig. 1Base reflectivity from KBRO showing Alex's eye at 721PM CDT.
Threat from winds
Hurricane force winds are likely taking place along the northeast Mexican coast right now. 25 mph winds with stronger gusts are being reported in the Brownsville area. A tornado watch is currently in place for the south Texas coast. SPC shows there have been 5 tornado reports so far.
Threat from rain
Radar-derived rainfall estimates suggest that up to 9 inches of rain have fallen in some locations near Brownsville, TX. 5+ inches of rain has fallen over a widespread area in the Rio Grande valley. The NWS office in Brownsville is forecasting a total of 6-12 inches rain across the Valley, with 12-15 inch totals possible in isolated locations. Flooding similar to that caused by Dolly in 2008 is expected across south Texas.
Threat from coastal flooding
The NWS is predicting a 3-4 foot storm surge for the coast from Brownsville to Port Isabel, TX. They think the coastal flooding will be limited and not cause significant damage to property along the coast.
Next update
I'll try to edit this blog with updates as more information comes in tonight. Jeff should have a full posting tomorrow morning, and I'll likely have a post describing the flooding at my blog Thursday night.
The views of the author are his/her own and do not necessarily represent the position of The Weather Company or its parent, IBM.
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Pat Robertson: Pot should totally be legal
posted at 6:55 pm on March 8, 2012 by Tina Korbe
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Quick: What do Pat Robertson and Ron Paul have in common? Yep, that's right — they both think marijuana should be as legal as alcohol. Robertson made waves on the issue in the past when he said he thought marijuana-possession convictions shouldn't end in mandatory prison sentences. He's making waves again with the outright call to legalize the controlled substance.
Mr. Robertson's support for legalizing pot appeared in a New York Times article published Thursday. His spokesman confirmed to the Associated Press that Mr. Robertson supports legalization with regulation. Mr. Robertson was not made available for an interview.
"I really believe we should treat marijuana the way we treat beverage alcohol," Mr. Robertson was quoted by the newspaper as saying. "If people can go into a liquor store and buy a bottle of alcohol and drink it at home legally, then why do we say that the use of this other substance is somehow criminal?"
Mr. Robertson said he "absolutely" supports ballot measures in Colorado and Washington state that would allow people older than 21 to possess a small amount of marijuana and allow for commercial pot sales. Both measures, if passed by voters, would place the states at odds with federal law, which bans marijuana use of all kinds.
This debate seems to have no direction to go but in the direction of legalization; as Robertson said elsewhere in the article, "This war on drugs just hasn't succeeded."
As I wrote this morning about tobacco use, it's not necessarily the government's role to keep us from harming ourselves, even if it is the government's role to keep us from physically harming others. A law that prevents driving under the influence of marijuana and other drug-related behaviors that could lead to the deprivation of another's life or property but that allows private use of the drug doesn't seem to be incompatible with conservatism to me. At the same time, I must not be quite as hip as the 81-year-old Robertson because some part of me still shies away from endorsing the idea of legalization entirely. This is just one of those hills I don't want to die on — whether pot is legal or illegal doesn't seem to matter much in the grand scheme of things to me.
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That fool has been talking like he's on LSD for ages so why should a little pot bother him. An upcoming special on his religious scam TV show may be the selling of grace filled joints once it's legal. Of course, since god always needs your financial aid, it will require a laying on of Pat's hands on your wallet.
Annar on March 9, 2012 at 10:29 AM
The second sentence you quoted is clear: For most people, no.
DrMagnolias on March 9, 2012 at 10:15 AM
So is the third sentence:
About 10% of recreational users will develop problems serve enough to impair their work and relationships.
And the fourth sentence is describing habit formation, not addiction. Additionally, out of the many people I know who smoke marijuana, not one of them is addicted. And your claim that 10% of alcohol users get addicted is also bulls**t.
According to the Institute of Medicine's 267-page report, fewer than 10 percent of those who try cannabis ever meet the clinical criteria for a diagnosis of "drug dependence" (based on DSM-III-R criteria). By contrast, the IOM reported that 32 percent of tobacco users, 23 percent of heroin users, 17 percent of cocaine users and 15 percent of alcohol users meet the criteria for "drug dependence."
If you're going to continue to throw around bulls**t statistics with no basis in reality, let me know, so I don't bother responding other than to correct you.
MadisonConservative on March 9, 2012 at 10:32 AM
It's not addictive.
Not true.
DrMagnolias on March 9, 2012 at 6:15 AM
It is true. Marijuana (or THC if you want to split hairs) is not addictive.
Dante on March 9, 2012 at 7:42 AM
It's not "addictive". Period. Study after study has demonstrated same. As a "clinically certified master addictions forensic assessor and counselor", I'd be happy to guide you errant ones into fact-based reality.
THE most deadly drugs from which to detox:
– Alcohol
– Barbiturates (like Phenobarbital, Seconal, Tuinal, etc.) that are used to control epileptic seizures – used in addition to Dilantin.
– Amphetamines and methamphetamines
– Cocaine
– Etc.
Those NOT dangerous re: detoxing, include marijuana and opiates.
For some, marijuana may become a "psychological dependence", but not a physical addiction.
Let's face it, there are far too many users and former users who know that "Reefer Madness" was government propaganda much like "Cocaine Madness" and "Sex Madness". You reluctant types should eschew 1930s cinema verité.
Karl Magnus on March 9, 2012 at 10:41 AM
This could be a game-changer. Religious leaders – especially evangelical ones – were usually perceived as being firmly on the side against drug legalization. It'd probably take a big name like Pat Robertson to change some minds out there. And I agree… legalize it and treat it like alcohol.
"Genesis 1:12 – I have given you all the seed-bearing plants and herbs to use!" (an audio sample in Cypress Hill's "Legalize It")
TMOverbeck on March 9, 2012 at 10:52 AM
This is just one of those hills I don't want to die on — whether pot is legal or illegal doesn't seem to matter much in the grand scheme of things to me.
I understand your hesitation… however, if we allow the rights of others to be trampled, who will be there when our rights are trampled?
First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak out for me.
– pastor Martin Niemöller
This is why legalizing pot is as important to me as any other issue. It is ruining lives just as much as any other overreaching law, even if they are lives I don't come into direct contact with on a regular basis. One prison term completely changes the course of a person's life; if they weren't a criminal before, they will be by the end of the sentence.
(do a search for a video: child's dog shot and killed in marijuana raid)
Nephew Sam on March 9, 2012 at 11:26 AM
MadisonConservative on March 9, 2012 at 10:32 AM
You are welcome to disagree, but it would be nice if you could do so without being obnoxious–you seem to take this quite personally. I'm certainly willing to agree that 15% may be closer to the proportion of people who become addicted to alcohol, although I've seen compelling evidence that it is closer to 10%. There are many figures out there, but the Institute of Medicine would certainly be credible. There is no question that alcohol addiction (not "habit formation") is a problem.
You seem to be ignoring the headline for this article, which uses the term addictive, as well as the discussion of its similarity in body responses to other drugs. Your insistence on the term "habit formation" contradicts the author's own choice of words, but his vocabulary seems adequate enough to have selected that term had he wanted it.
Additionally, as you kindly pointed out, the Institute of Medicine acknowledged that some marijuana users meet the clinical criteria for drug dependence. Whether it is 5%, 9%, 11%, or 15%, it simply refutes the claim that the substance is not addictive. Does everyone become addicted–clearly not, and no one has made that claim. But to claim that it is not addictive flies in the face of the source you quoted.
Karl Magnus on March 9, 2012 at 10:41 AM
My husband was the head of the substance abuse program for the Navy, so I'm actually pretty familiar with the various substances out there, and how problematic they are. Alcohol was the most significant problem they dealt with, without a doubt; however, none of that changes what I linked to.
You all are welcome to continue this discussion among yourselves–I haven't seen any compelling refutation to the article I linked to. In any events, I've never been interested in long "debates" in which neither side finds the other side compelling–they seem an enormous waste of time to me. Thus it is with this one.
DrMagnolias on March 9, 2012 at 11:48 AM
You are welcome to disagree, but it would be nice if you could do so without being obnoxious–you seem to take this quite personally. I'm certainly willing to agree that 15% may be closer to the proportion of people who become addicted to alcohol, although I've seen compelling evidence that it is closer to 10%. There are many figures out there, but the Institute of Medicine would certainly be credible. There is no question that alcohol addiction (not "habit formation") is a problem.
Nothing personal about it. I get annoyed when people throw out statistics with no source or factual basis, regardless of whether it supports or attacks my side of the issue. If it was not your intention, and you had a source you assumed people were aware of, then I apologize for my candor. If it was your intention, my attitude stands.
You seem to be ignoring the headline for this article, which uses the term addictive, as well as the discussion of its similarity in body responses to other drugs. Your insistence on the term "habit formation" contradicts the author's own choice of words, but his vocabulary seems adequate enough to have selected that term had he wanted it.
Your quotes around the phrase "habit formation" leads me to believe you truly don't know what it is, or the difference. The distinction has been discussed in the medical community for decades.
Additionally, as you kindly pointed out, the Institute of Medicine acknowledged that some marijuana users meet the clinical criteria for drug dependence. Whether it is 5%, 9%, 11%, or 15%, it simply refutes the claim that the substance is not addictive. Does everyone become addicted–clearly not, and no one has made that claim. But to claim that it is not addictive flies in the face of the source you quoted.
DrMagnolias on March 9, 2012 at 11:48 AM
They acknowledged that less than 10% met those criteria, so your examples are intellectually dishonest. Again, just because a minute percentage of people find a substance addictive does not prove that the substance itself is the cause of the addition. Addictive personalities often get addicted to multiple substances or activities, be they gambling, shopping, sex, overeating, alcohol, drugs, cigarettes, or anything else. Until you corner test groups full of non-addictive personalities, you don't prove anything when a substance or activity shows only a minute addiction percentage.
MadisonConservative on March 9, 2012 at 12:09 PM
It'd be fun to have a Hot Gas poll on this issue.
The older I get, the more libertarian I must lean. I'm beginning to agree with Robertson on this one. This country would likely be wiser to treat marijuana the way it does beverage alcohol for a multitude of reasons.
TitularHead on March 9, 2012 at 12:12 PM
You might wish to go to the link I posted–it's to an article by an addictions researcher at UCLA.
DrMagnolias on March 9, 2012 at 9:47 AM
I frankly couldn't care less what the researcher says. Marijuana is not addictive. This is a fact.
DrMagnolias on March 9, 2012 at 11:48 AM
You can't be serious: "I know someone who knows someone who … "
I am very familiar with CDAAC – the military version of substance abuse issues. They're morons who look for a way to discharge troops who submit a dirty UA – unless you jump through all of their draconian hoops of course.
Educated readers can see through your diaphanous rationale.
Gimme a Break
Karl Magnus on March 9, 2012 at 12:24 PM
good for Pat. I dont agree with much he says but I do with this. We really have to start being somewhat reasonable about marijuana.
snoopicus on March 9, 2012 at 12:36 PM
I frankly couldn't care less what the researcher says.
Dante on March 9, 2012 at 12:20 PM
I'll let that stand on its own.
MadisonConservative on March 9, 2012 at 12:09 PM
I do operate on the assumption that most people recognize a small, but not insignificant, proportion of people are addicted to alcohol. I did not believe it was necessary to cite a source, but understanding that you believe it is, I will keep that in mind in the future.
I am aware that the "habit formation" hypothesis (I use quotation marks to highlight it) became somewhat popular in the 1980s, however, the empirical research hasn't been as supportive of it as some people believe. Obviously, there are people who believe it, and there are plenty who don't (and I wish I could give a link, but most of the sources I've seen require a subscription to a database to access the material–I'm able to through my university's library, but not everyone can). There have been attempts to integrate the concepts to form a coherent theory of what goes on with individuals. Nevertheless, the research I linked to supports marijuana's effects in some individuals to be consistent with the nature of addictions (maladaptive and persistent behavior–of course, then we can debate whether "behavioral addictions" really qualify–and toss in the interactions of the receptor systems and need for increasing use to receive the same effects, and we're going beyond simple habits).
Again, my point about percentages is that no one argues that alcohol is not addictive simply because more people use it without becoming addicted than those who do. Whether one must be susceptible physically (also debatable) doesn't change the fact that it can be addictive (perhaps that choice of words is more palatable to some?). This would be true of a variety of substances–marijuana included.
And I don't mean to be rude when I say that debates don't interest me–they rarely change anyone's mind and seem an exercise in futility. Perhaps I've explained myself more clearly now, perhaps not, but I doubt you're any more convinced now, and I'm not convinced by the arguments against.
DrMagnolias on March 9, 2012 at 12:41 PM
I'll let that stand on its own.
DrMagnolias on March 9, 2012 at 12:41 PM
Go right ahead and do that, and keep peddling an uninformed opinion. Meanwhile in the real world, where many of us have or had firsthand experience both in using and friends/acquaintances using, we can all count the number of marijuana addicts on less than one finger.
I couldn't agree more.. Kids are dropping like flies smoking that fake crap.. that's enough reason alone. And anyone who says "we'll its bad parenting" or "my kid wouldn't do that" have a case of head in the butt.
Not to mention its none of you're or the governments business to regulate to begin with.
I would take a stoner over a stumbling drunk any day of the week.
jomondo44 on March 9, 2012 at 1:41 PM
Dante on March 9, 2012 at 1:00 PM
So never mind what the Ph.D. at UCLA who does research on addictions, including the biochemical responses that occur, says–we should all bow to your anecdotal experience. Sorry, his credentials are more compelling than yours.
DrMagnolias on March 9, 2012 at 1:58 PM
DrMagnolias on March 9, 2012 at 1:58 PM
Shall I procure a list of people with PhDs have to say about man-caused global warming? Shall I procure a list of people with PhDs who disagree? Yeah, PhDs have never gotten anything wrong or faked studies (autism and vaccines, anyone?). I wonder who funded this research..
But as I figured, you have absolutely no personal experience nor real life experience to serve as foundation for your stance.
Nephew Sam on March 9, 2012 at 11:26 AM
Dante, AH_C, thanks for the hat tip.
GuitarMark on March 9, 2012 at 3:11 PM
See, it's like this. One of the biggest secrets in the world -and one that hides in broad daylight, like "the Emperor Wears No Clothes" is that all the many problems Americans and humans are divided over are symptoms of one simple fundamental underlying issue: the issue of how we "ought" to deal with one another… and, as a corollary, the function of "government".
Fundamentally, there are two sets of alternatives. Of course, people can attempt to combine the two… but it does not, cannot, and never does work.
We can deal with each other from a perspective/paradigm of the Golden Rule, mutual respect, voluntary relations, in which force/threats/violence is prohibited EXCEPT for objectively demonstrable rational lines that are crossed -that being, as the Objectivists have identitified, the initiation of force/threats/violence to impose ones will upon others… to create an unequal relationship where one person/group controls/coerces another -for "good intentions" or otherwise. (I would submit the difference is mostly if not entirely irrelevant -especially to the victims.)
Or, alternatively, we can have a system in which it is accepted and institutionalized that "some" have the "right" (under law) to impose their will on others.
The role of government is fundamentally different in each paradigm; in the former paradigm, government exists to prohibit force/violence/threats/coercion being used for reasons other than defense; in the latter, "government" attempts to articulate "the right way" to arbitrarily apply these contradicting principles… and "balance" them with the protection of peoples' rights.
This is, of course, quite absurd, because there is no way to "balance" these things. "Government" exists to protect peoples' rights… if it's not doing that, it's NOT "governmentf" at all, but merely institutionalized gang rule which is closer in both theory and reality to anarchy than to government.
Which is PRECISELY what we have right now.
The solution is to CONSISTENTLY restrict/limit the power/authority of government to its legitimate purpose of protecting EVERYONES' rights (consistently).
Once we degenerate into arguing how consistently to protect citizens rights… well again, that's precisely why we're where we're at.
And the whole "good intentions" schtick is total BS.
GuitarMark on March 9, 2012 at 3:23 PM
Apologies, everyone, my proofreader-wife wanted to read my comments and identied some boo-boos which were evidently understood despite their error(s), but which I apologize for not catching:
(from my
intial post)To be opposed to government not having the authority to restrict something it has no legitimate basis to restrict is NOT an endorsement of whatever that thing or things might be.
had a double-negative and was supposed to be:
To be opposed to government having the authority to restrict something it has no legitimate basis to restrict is NOT an endorsement of whatever that thing or things might be.
We ALL need to CONSISTENTLY impose any and all examples of "government" and law(s) doing the former -instead of the latter.
was supposed to be:
We ALL need to CONSISTENTLY oppose any and all examples of "government" and law(s) doing the former -instead of the latter.
GuitarMark on March 9, 2012 at 3:39 PM
To prove the point, from Reason:
On Wednesday night a New Orleans police officer shot and killed an unarmed 20-year-old man, Wendell Allen, during a pot raid. Police, who had a search warrant, say they recovered about five ounces of marijuana, bags, digital scales, and a handgun from the house. They arrested two men for possession with intent to distribute. Allen, a former high school basketball star who was given a five-year suspended sentence for that offense last year, escaped charges this time around, what with being dead and all.
The New Orleans Police Department is investigating why Officer Josh Colclough shot Allen, whose mother told a local TV station:
His police title, that's just a title. He's still a man just like the next man that commits a murder. So my child's crime should be treated the same if he'd gotten killed by a regular man.
Should be, but certainly won't. A regular man who breaks into a house and kills someone, even accidentally, would be guilty of murder. But the drug laws authorize police officers to do things that otherwise would be considered burglary and armed robbery.
In this case, the cops charged into the house with guns drawn, knowingly endangering everyone inside:
"All the children said that when they came in and they heard the boom, they put guns in the children's faces and asked them to back up. They proceeded upstairs and all they heard was a pow and Wendell screaming," said [Crystal] Butler [Wendell Allen's aunt]. NOPD confirms that 5 children were inside the Gentilly home when the search warrant was executed ranging from ages 1 to 14.
"We have not been able to yet completely understand what exactly occurred," Police Superintendent Ronal Serpas said yesterday. No matter why Colclough fired his gun, the crucial error occurred long before he ran up the stairs, when legislators decided this was an appropriate way to deal with a plant they did not like.
Common Sense on March 9, 2012 at 4:19 PM
All I really want to know man is like…What would jesus do man? Thats all I'm saying.
Realclearblue on March 9, 2012 at 4:28 PM
First, I loathe and abhor stoners. I'm referring to the tie-dye tshirted, longhaired filthy hippie 4-20 stoner "culture". Second, I don't use illegal drugs nor misuse prescription drugs (last I heard you can't get high from cholesterol medicine). Third, I'm about as far right conservative as you can get. When I took an online test of "Progressivism" vs Conservatism, I scored a 29 out of 1,000. A thousand points was Obama. I also got a 97% score on an online American Civics test.
But having said that, I am in favor of the legalization of marijuana.
Prohibition of alcohol didn't work in the 1920's and Prohibition of drugs sure as hell hasn't worked since the 1960's. We've spent hundreds of billions on law enforcement, jails and equipment and what has it gotten us? Millions of people in jail for drug offenses, most of which were for simple possession – a few joints or even a roach in the car's ashtray. Many more are in jail for committing crimes to get the money to buy expensive drugs.
Ask yourselves this question: criminals rob liquor stores all the time to get money to buy illegal drugs, but when have you heard of a criminal robbing a Walgreens or a CVS to buy liquor?
The two biggest roadblocks to legalizing or at least decriminalizing marijuana are the drug dealers and the law enforcement industry. They each have a vested interest in keeping marijuana illegal.
CatchAll on March 9, 2012 at 10:11 PM
Well, even Pat Robertson can be right once in awhile.
AshleyTKing on March 9, 2012 at 11:03 PM
So never mind what the Ph.D. at UCLA who does research on addictions, including the biochemical responses that occur, says–we should all bow to your anecdotal experience. Sorry, his credentials are more compelling than yours.
DrMagnolias on March 9, 2012 at 1:58 PM
My personal and professional bona fides speak for themselves.
I would gladly debate any zealot re: marijuana, its utility, and harmlessness to society.
Geebus …
Reefer Madness was made in the 1930s and some people still refuse to get the Josef Göbells joke.
Karl Magnus on March 10, 2012 at 11:41 AM
Here's an argument you might have less trouble with: Jesus drank alcohol, a far more addictive drug that contributes to more deaths/year than all illicit drugs combined.
DHChron on March 8, 2012 at 9:43 PM
I've read that the alcohol that Jesus and people of ancient times drank was not as potent, it was weaker.
I know Christians that drink, enjoy cigars or pipes, even opium back when it wasn't "criminal. I even know of Christian polygamists and none of the aforementioned is a barrier to getting into heaven. It is culture that determines whether those "vices" are acceptable, not the Holy Scriptures.
AH_C on March 9, 2012 at 12:10 AM
Just because the Bible describes something or mentions it, does not necessarily mean God endorses it.
God's intent was for one one and one woman, not one man married to several women, as ancient Middle East customs went.
God brought only one woman (wife) to Adam, not two or more.
See also passages such as Ephesians 5:31 ("For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh."), Ephesians 5:33 – the instructions imply one wife per man, as it does not mention "husband you are to love your WIVES as…"
IIRC, there are also instructions that males who lead in the church are to be married to but one wife.
The Bible forbids Christians from dabbling in stuff like marijuana (brief page on the topic: "Question: "What does the Bible say about doing drugs?"), so I'm not sure what to make of all the people in the thread saying things like, "But my best buddy Fred is a true blue believer, and he tokes a joint every Saturday."
I'd also like to point out that just because someone says he or she is a Christian does not necessarily mean he or she really is one, see the words of Jesus Christ in Matthew 7:21-23.
TigerPaw on March 10, 2012 at 1:50 PM
That fool [Pat Robertson] has been talking like he's on LSD for ages so why should a little pot bother him. An upcoming special on his religious scam TV show may be the selling of grace filled joints once it's legal. Of course, since god always needs your financial aid, it will require a laying on of Pat's hands on your wallet.
Annar on March 9, 2012 at 10:29 AM
I wouldn't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
I've watched Robertson's show a lot ("The 700 Club"), and I enjoy the personal testimony interviews by people who were healed, or who had their lives turned around after coming to Christ. That part of the show is fine.
However, I am put off by the regular appeals for money on his show, and I don't just mean the tele-thon things they do ever so often.
They regularly have stories on the show about people who were having financial struggles, but (according to the show), the moment those people began tithing (sending money to) Robertson's show (the charity arm of it), all their financial problems supposedly vanished.
Robertson is also one of those Word of Faith / Prosperity Gospel types who seems to believe if any misfortune befalls you (poverty, sickness, etc), it's your fault because you did not have enough faith, or you must have sinned and brought it on yourself in some way.
Contrary to what the Word of Faith personalities teach, Jesus Christ taught that the amount of you faith is pretty irrelevant; He taught it's the object of your faith that counts (Luke 17:6).
Passages such as John 9:1-3 and Luke 13:3-5 say that sometimes bad things happens to people that is not due to their sin or to a lack of faith.
I have been troubled and extremely turned off by some of Robertson's comments over the last few years, when he does this part on his show where he answers viewer's questions.
For example, a few months ago, Robertson appeared to be excusing a man leaving his wife for a new woman, when the wife was diagnosed with Alzheimer's.
He seemed to think it's fine and peachy for a spouse to drop another one when one becomes sick.
I think he later apologized for that or tried to clear it up, but his apology was so muddled, I don't think he explicitly said, "No, a man should not leave his wife when she is sick."
His son, who I like a lot more, needs to take over the hosting of the show, and Pat should retire from it.
The female co-hosts on the show are also a lot more sensible and sensitive in the advice they give to people who write in with problems.
TigerPaw on March 10, 2012 at 2:11 PM
Nor am I saying that one should have to try something before they oppose it, but I do wish the debate were more fact-based and less fear-based.
MadisonConservative on March 8, 2012 at 8:26 PM
What a great idea. We could even give it a name. My suggestion is "science". I know real study and debate are out of fashion these days, but I think they could have real purpose. What'ya say?
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Description The Portuguese Man o' War (Physalia physalis), also known as the Portuguese man-of-war, man-of-war, or bluebottle, is a jelly-like marine invertebrate of the family Physaliidae. The name "man-of-war" is taken from the man-of-war, a 16th century English armed sailing ship which was based on an earlier Portuguese vessel.
Despite its outward appearance, the Man o' War is not a true jellyfish but a siphonophore, which differ from jellyfish in that they are not actually a single creature, but a colonial organism made up of many minute individuals called zooids. Each of these zooids is highly-specialized and, although structurally similar to other solitary animals, are attached to each other and physiologically integrated to the extent that they are incapable of independent survival.
The Man o' War is found in warm water seas floating on the surface of open ocean, its air bladder keeping it afloat and acting as a sail while the rest of the organism hangs below the surface. It has no means of self-propulsion and is entirely dependent on winds, currents, and tides. It is most common in the tropical and subtropical regions of the Pacific and Indian oceans, but can drift outside of this range on warm currents such as the Atlantic Gulf Stream.
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Vermona Synthesizer
We have little information about this synth except that it is one of the only analog synthesizers produced by German music company Vermona throughout the 1980's. It is a 2-VCO monophonic analog synthesizer. It has most basic analog edit parameters. A 24 dB/oct analog VCF (filter) with 4 knobs (Brilliance, CutOff, Resonance, Contour), a single LFO to modulate the VCO or VCF sections and a typical ADSR VCA envelope. There are preset VCF and VCA settings as well as a Manual mode, but there is no real Patch setting storage available. Also absent are MIDI and CV or Gate.
Its sounds are pretty basic analog stuff. It makes a real nice analog bass. The string sounds are questionable. But with only 2 VCOs and such limited programmability, you won't get a whole lot of stuff out of this synth. There are no on-bard arpeggiators, sequencers or multitimbral options. The only real effects on-board is the portamento-like Glide effect and Vibrato. Colorful knobs, a clean layout, vintage wood end-cheeks and a genuine analog sound. It's an interesting piece.
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Welcome Janet!! I used to work in a hospital, I never did get used to working odd shifts!!! I hope Charley calms down and doesn't bother you at all. I think I like my earthquakes better than I'd like those big storms you get on the East Coast.
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Welcome, Janet! I'm a night owl, too. (Although, it isn't even midnight, yet.)
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I just looked out the window, walked outside and smelled the faint smoke in the air, and thought we need a thread about this.
It won't really be my thread. The fires ARE in San Diego, but I cannot see them from where I live and my area seems relatively safe (central San Diego - a very suburban environment, with not too much open-space except on hillsides opposite the freeway and along the river banks).
But I want other Californians or concerned countrymen to have a place to post their experiences with the fires.
I have friends being evacuated right now and hurrying to rescue their animals (horses included along with cats, dogs, rabbits, etc.) And I may be boarding at least one friend or more until it is safe for her to return to her area.
One of my Star Wars buddies reported being able to see the hillside ablaze not very far from where he lives. Another SW buddy we have not heard from at all. (Update: he's on standbye evacuation - I was just told while I was typing this).
So if you have anything further that you want to contribute regarding the fires, now we have a thread for it.
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The recently deceased artist is warmly remembered by the entire arts world for his gentle and warm nature, as well as pioneering some of the most memorable renditions of portrait painting ever known. Largely self-taught, Louis le Brocquy studied in France and Spain and began painting in a cubist style. Much of his subjects focused on depictions of alienated sections of society. His seminal painting continued this theme, depicting the travelling community in A Family. This work represented Ireland at the Venice Biennale, winning the Premio Acquisito Internationale in 1956. Also during this decade he produced strikingly colourful tapestries. During the 1960s and onwards his work was characterised by themes of individual isolation in his 'white period' with a series of atomised 'Heads' of literary figures and fellow artists. He remains one of the most sought after Irish artists on international markets and his work is represented in numerous public collections all over the world. He is also renowned for his book illustrations (such as The Tain by Thomas Kinsella) and as a designer of tapestries, one of which hangs in the Gallery's Millennium Wing.
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This site is projecting Miami has no Comp picks this year.
This site is projecting Miami has no Comp picks this year.
That makes sense with all the money Miami spent in free agency.
We don't get anything after losing Tony McDaniels, Jake Long, Vontae, Dansby, Smith, Burnett, Bush, and Fasano? Not even a 5th?
we traded vontae, cut dansby and burnett, those players dont count towards comp picks from what i understand. plus we brought in a lot of fa's, that would outweigh our fa losses
Miami lost Long, Bush, Fasano, Smith, McDaniels, Mastrud, Amaya, and Marlon Moore. Dansby, Burnett, and Richard Marshall don't count because they were cut.
I have 7 in and 8 out, but I don't believe Mastrud, Amay, and Moore will count because they all signed for Vet min of 630k, which is under the salary floor of the comp pick program. if that's the case, it's 7 in and 5 out, which means no comp pick for Miami.
How many 1st round picks were awarded to the beloved Pats?


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We just recently had this discussion...I was browsing through AKC secretaries minutes and BOD minutes. Here is what was said:
Retriever Hunting Test Retrieves Up To 150 Yards
The Board reviewed a recommendation from the Retriever Hunting Test Advisory Committee to amend the Regulations For AKC Hunting Tests For Retrievers to increase
the distance for retrieves in the Master level Retriever Hunting Test from 100 yards to should not normally exceed 150 yards. The Junior and Senior level test would remain unchanged. This will be discussed further at the October meeting.
--------from the AKC site.
How do we comment on this process? Can we even do so at this point? How do we find out who is on the RHTAC?
I still think this goes back to the whole MN qualifications.....among other things. It is an issue of concern for me.
I reiterate what others have said, leave the weekend tests alone. AND for those that will say you need to train more.....I DO train.....and work with a group, belong to a retriever club, obedience and regional specialty club and am active in all. I also work full time and have limited training days and access to grounds. I'm really afraid that this sport is going to get to the point where hardworking people won't be able to get it done....not without spending a fortune...
Sue Puff


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Hi my name is Lloyd and im 30 i <3 anime like real bad i live for it and i would die for it lol....I really love action like Naruto and Bleach and One Piece i just found out about D.gray man (watched all the episodes in about 4 days no lie) and i just found out about Hitman Reborn (watched all in 3 days). I also love detective conan and watched like 100 every week till i caught up and all the movies too cause it was hard to find a site to watch those on...I just got into romance animes i never thought a anime could touch me so much. Cause i watch like bleach and naruto and it makes me want to be a stronger individual with there never give up ideals but romance animes is a really great thing as well. Ive been trying to watch as many as possible and sadly i think ive watched all the ones that i could find and get into... :( if anyone has suggestions i would love to hear it i like the high school type echhi harem romance types but i only watch if i know theres an ending like good or bad someone has to confess to me or there has to be someone getting with someone or i wont feel satisfied i love a happy ending even if its predictible the journey of getting there Rocks. Anyway i write alot i know sorry well hope to meet alot of anime friends on this site i never took this site seriously but it seems intresting so hi to everyone and hope we can be real good friends.
Legit don't use this anymore and moved on to Myanimelist
Hit me up!! Myanimelist.net/profile/Kurosakii
SPOILER ALERT!! I write for myself and my memories so probably alot of spoilers...
My Top 5 Anime
1. Naruto Shippuden
Grew up watching Naruto and this was like the first anime i realized was an anime....incredible all around and i cant wait to see Naruto become hokage and get Sakura and maybe save Sasuke but i could care less about him he weirds me out.
2. Bleach
My first time hearing the word shinigami and after seeing rukia i was swept up in the world of bleach and everything that deals with it. I loved when ichigo saved Rukia from soul society it was crazy one of the best moments in any anime ever hands down to me and the fight with Byakuya right after was Crazyy. I also love Senna and could honestly see her with Ichigo. I <3 Nell young and old too. As of right now i hope Ichigo gets stronger cause its looking impossible for him...
3. Kateikyoushi Hitman Reborn!
Just got into this but i love it and i like how Tsuna grows into a more trustworty and stronger person each episode. The story to me is very original and the little love that goes on i love it too. Haru or Kyoko two great choices. Spoiler* when Tsuna went to the future and older Kyoko called him Tsu kun OMG!! does that mean there like a couple cant wait to find out I LOVE THIS SHOW.
4. One Piece
Luffy determination is a once in a lifetime thing and i cant wait to see him as the pirate king. He has an amazing crew and they are all great in there own ways from nami and her greed for gold to zorrows iLL skills with all those swords and Luffy goals it just is one amazing show with original characters and i look forward to every episode.
5. Detective Conan
Not quite the action like Naruto or bleach but it puts you in a different state of mind and Kudo Shin'ichi is one kid with a brilliant mind and i love pretending to be like him in a way and trying to solve the case. I find it amazing that 500+ episodes and everyone is different and unique in everyway. I also think Ran Shinichi is one of the worlds best couples and i know she loves him and hope one day they can be together and i altogether just love Ran she is a very unique person. Her mom is also quite the character and her dad is too funny and this show is just great and makes you think and i look forward to each episode and movie the newest movie looks insane cant wait to watch when it gets subbed =).
My Top 5 Romance Animes
1. Special A
I absolutly fell in love with Hikari cause she has that attitude that makes me you want to see her succeed and she is not stuckup in the least and her and Kei make a great couple.
2. H2O ~Footprints in the Sand~
I love how even if pple were being mean to Hayami, Takuma didnt give in and their love grew slowly but surely. The fact that Takuma didnt act like the others show how kind he was and the whole him being blind the whole time sort a thing was just mindblowing to me.
3. Seto no Hanayome
I love this show because it wasnt like most romance animes the way how right off the bat San had to be Nagasumis wife was just great and her determination to be a good wife was so heartfelt and as the relationship grew it got better and better and the singing episodes versus Runa chan was great too the songs were really catchy =).
4. True Tears
One of the first romance animes i watched it is an incredible story and up till the end you dont know who Shinichiro would pick and Noe Isurugi i couldnt believe he didnt pick her she is such a different and great and amazing girl but he still picked good in Hiromi Yuasa. This story is strange with the whole flying chicken bit but it symbolizes something lovely and great.
5. Hanbun no Tsuki ga Noboru Sora
Another one of the first romance animes ive seen its a touching tale of two kids with illnesses and what they go through for love. Even the ending is uncertain but you know that Yuichi and Rika will be together for as long as time allows and the journey for the two is a great one full of touching and funny times.
My Top Couples (No order after #5 lol its just that i saw those after 1-5 i guess)
1. Ran & Shinichi
A great couple from childhood and they need each other to succeed in whatever they do in life.
2. Naruto & Hinata
She loves him to death. Always even when he was a loser in everyone eyes and reject due to having Kyuubi in him. She always believed in him and saw the man he could become..Before he defeated Pain Hinata was the onlii one to step in and help Naruto she couldn't stand by and watch her love battle such an enemy...She is a great girl with amazing looks and her and Naruto deserve someone who will live the real them not just a hero or w/e Naruto ends up being (Hokage I hopes hehe)
3. Tsukune & Moka
A great couple that would do anything for each other and shows that a vampire and a human can love each other the only thing is they need to release all their feeling and stop with the games hopefully season 3 we see an end.
4. Nagasumi & San
A great couple thats like "married" a cute couple thats really dedicated to one another and they both show a great mermaid and human relationship and I like how Nagasumi grows with San and her mermaid chivalry
5. Kenji & Nanami
Trust me this couple is from Lamune maybe not alot of pple have seen it but they deserve to be more well known great animation a genuine couple that started from such a young age her dedication and undecisivness is cute and not a tired feeling and as you see their relationship grow more and more with each day you really start to fall in love with them both.
6. Saito & Louise
Watched the seasons in like 3 days it was really really nice and i know they really love each other it was so great to see a anime where they actually have like kissing and jealousy and not just one confession at the end. Saitos love for Louise is a amazing thing and Louise having to realize she loves Saito was great to see too Yay Saito and Yay Louise. A good story one like i never heard and kept me intrested every episode this is couple that I know is in complete love with each other.
7. Keitarou & Naru
Just an amazing couple and there whole getting together was so real to me it was incredible. Like to actually see a failure in an anime and a geeky person is a rarity to me and for him to go through so much to make his dreams and promises come through and to get the girl he wanted is a great thing. To see Naru warm up to Kei was too nice and when she said she loved him and they started kissing and wanting to do "it" how awesome was everything altogether a great couple (*spoiler) that got married and it was so nice to see so glad they ended up with each other. Kei and Naru forever.
8. Ryuuji & Taiga
OMG soooooOoOooooo incredible what a iLy couple it was so cute the whole getting together and this anime altogether was simply amazing and really really funny and the confession at the same time and the when I turn 18 marry me thing how cute was all that. A great couple who relys on each other and will be together forever and ever Yayyy Ryuuji & Taiga make the cutest couple ever i swear it.
9. Maiku & Karen (As Brother & Sister) & Maiku & Miina
Yo OMG lol what a sick anime and I was so confused as too who was his sister and it was crazy im so glad it ended up being Karen and after everything could she be a cuter lil sister like just the best thing ever she was all over him and it was so funny and cute...And then him and Miina relationship was so cute too and how she gets red all the time and fights with Karen just crazy good an amazing anime and I know they will live happily in that house :).
10. Kazuki & Tokiko
An amazing anime with a crazy good plot and the romance that ties in with the great fight scenes is just sick...Kazuki's never give up attitude mixed with Tokiko's loner attitude it too perfect for words. So happy they got to express their feelings. Kazuki made the best decision and came back to her arms so perfect~!! The first kiss between them was so perfect and i know Tokiko would give her life for Kazuki and he would do the same for her. Altogether a stunning couple that will be together forever.
11. Tatsuya & Feena
Wohhh what a crazy good anime...Very nice exactly what you need a romance anime quite predictable but such cute characters. Tatsuya realizing what he wanted the most and striving towards his goals no matter what was really great. Feena falling in love with Tatsuya and getting engaged and married and the love in between was sooOoOooo Cute....The whole cast as well was very good and funny and all around a truly good anime.
12. Kaoru & Aoi
OMG what an incredible story and a incredible couple. Aoi is the perfect woman and her love for Kaoru is soOoOooo beautiful. All the other characters from Tina to Chika to Taeko to Miyabi to Mayu were so good as well i loved all of their varying personalities as well. Aoi and her love and her values and beliefs is a once in a lifetime thing and im sure Kaoru will never let her go or make her sad. Kaoru as well was a good person who deserved Aoi after losing everything that was dear to him. Altogether an amazing couple and a great anime and manga.
13. Aihara & Futami
From Kimikiss a really good anime that focused on many characters not just the main ones. One amazing couple was Aihara and Futami. I really loved Sakino too but Futami grew on me towards the end. She is a very great girl who is a genius afraid to love and altogether weird and i didnt think I would like her at all. She went from cold and logical to a amazing person ready to love. Aihara was good as well for never giving up on her and im sure they will be so happy together.
14. Kouichi & Mao
The main couple from kimikiss...So Great OMG Soooooooooo good you have to love how they both had there own romances going on but towards the end there feelings overwhelmed them to the point where they had to break up with whoever they were with and get with each other. Mao is a great person so fun and outgoing and she and Koichi will be so happy together. It was sad to see yuumi have to accept it but she knew ahead of time so im just glad she learned to be more open with people and kai he gonna be fine I believe. Kouichi and Mao omggggggggggg what a good couple they will be together for ever wohhhhhhhh!!.....
15. Daisuke & Riku
Omg D.N.Angel what an amazing anime soooooo love daisuke and his personality and so love rikus personality as well. Found it so crazy that he started of in complete love with risa but clearly riku was a much better choice for him she is cute sorta tomboyish but altogether a great girl who trulys thinks of him all the time and this anime altogether was incredible from the whole thief concept with dark to all the characters. But i just especially loved everything that happened between niwa and riku omg so good~!!
16. Ichigo & Senna
Meant to put this couple for awhile and after watching the movie I remembered to put it lolz. I love ichigo with Orihime but it was so rare to see ichigo really love someone I believe. Senna was loud outgoing fun and ichigo was all tight and stuck up but Senna really opened him up and saw the real Kurosaki Ichigo. I cried when Senna disappeared just as ichigo did one of the saddest moments in bleach and im sure deep down ichigo remembers her and they had the possibility to become an amazing couple when she said said "i dont want to live in a world with no ichigo" OMG best line ever lolz
17. Kei & Tohru
BEST COUPLE EVER LOLZ...Fruit Baskets wa an amazing anime and you have to continue the manga to see how tohru breaks kei and all the Sohma's from his life and their curse. Tohru has to be one of the cutest kindest girls ever up there with Aoi lolz she is all around nice who has had such a hard life but always manages to smile (Her smile is one of the best things ever) and is a great girl who will be happy forever with kei. Also kei is a person trapped with a curse thats one of the worse in the Sohma's and he had such a bad attitude and he didnt trust anyone but all thanks to tohru he was broken out of it this whole anime was amazing from yuki to all the characters and all the people in the zodiac i love this anime and Tohru so very much. So happy she and kei confessed to each other and lived happily ever after.
18. Hiro and Miyamura
What a nice couple see had such an amazing personality that you couldnt help but love her. She was so afraid to be alone and im so happy Hiro found a girl that understands his dreams and im happy he got her to go back to school and that they live together being happily in love. The whole messages bit and the ending with the countdown of seconds on the phonecard OMG so funny and cute.
19. Renji & Chihiro
Ok one of the best animes ive ever seen so amazing how can someone who can only remember what she does for the day for only 13 hours then her memory forgets the whole day and to go through that everyday for 4 years. Heartbreaking story...Chihiro is an amazing girl who is lost and doesnt wanna burden people but all in all she wants to be loved and remembered. Renji is a very strong boy for dealing with Chihiro and trying to keep his image in her mind. The ending where they kissed so many times and confessed and sealed they love then she threw away the diary pages (gotta watch to understand lolz) So sad but he never gave in and finally at the end she remembers him after the time limit which is truly a miracle brought by renji and his love and if anyone deserved it, it was Chihiro she is a cute fun girl who im sure will be happy forever with renji.
20. Kou & Aoba
Just watched Cross Game and skipped a few episodes here and there but from the beginning it was so cute Kou and Wakaba and then she pasted away omg so sad and Aoba always disliking Kou and the whole going to Koshien thing. Also the last episode was the best and Kou put up with all of Aoba's attitude and lies and saw the real her and the fact that they moved on as a couple despite how much her sister Wakaba was in love with Kou was good to see cause they knew and I felt too that Wakaba would have wanted things to end up like that a great anime with a good romance and great action and loveable characters.
21. Usui & Misaki
OMG one of the best couples i have seen lately, Misaki is too cute for words to express and Usui isnt the usual extremly cool anime guy theres something different about him. The way Misaki acts all the time is so nice to watch how much she acts like she hates Usui but deep down he takes her breath away. Usui is an amazing person to deal with Misaki and never give up and every moment they share together is too perfect and gives me chill. I know they will make it forever.
22. Agemaki & Zakuro
So Great one of my favorite animes and favorite couple ever...Also the whole cast especially the twins and their "fight" song put this anime in a league of its own....Zakuro's Tsundere personality was so Cute to watch and The whole Agemaki being a wuss was truly something to be remembered..He perservered through everything and he learned spirits arent all bad and Zakuro learned how to trust someone...His confessions to Zakuro were wonderful and when she finally said she loved him and they kissed omg I could have died a happy man.....All in all and incredible couple that will be together forever I just know it <3
23. Yamamoto & Suzuka
Kk so just finished this and absolutly loved it. I avoid it for years thinking it was a sad romance but I was wrong. The anime completly pissed me off but the ending was just. So I headed striaght for the manga and been reading non stop and finished it and loved it and cryed a bit at the end. He went through so much for Suzuka and her attitude was so bad at times but deep down she was a kind girl who just needed someone not to give up in her. Yamato is a bit of a baka but even though he worried at times and was indecisive at times he did not let his love for Suzuka shake. The ending was amazing I loved it the whole thing. I would give up the world for my girl as well so I understand Yamato and his choices and respect him so much. All in all an amazing story with Suzuka was a real girl not a typical girl but a real girl with real feelings and emotions. I didn't care for her at first but quickly I saw her for who she really was.
24. Okarin & Makise
I watched Steins;Gate and forgot about to add them here but I just seen the OVA episode 25 basically and all the feelings and everything from the past came through again. I am amazed at this anime it is in my top 10 for sure I absolutely love it to death. Such a good show with loveable characters a plot thats so perfect with amazing pacing omg just love it.....Okarin and Makise is adorable together he went through so many world lines and still love her so much she even did the whole close your eyes thing and then it cut to credits! So perfect to me flawless in every way shape and form..I will never forget this and hope I can have a love like theirs...Okarin is a mad scientist with an amazing laugh! and Makise is a genius and will always be his lab member ahhh love them together so nice..Also got to see Suzuha's mom on top of everything ahhh so amazing 7 years later and just ahhhh amazing amazing I cant get over it. Never forget these feelings from any of these animes or couples they are so worthwhile I love it I love it I love it Makise Okarin be happy together forever.
25. Soushi & Ririchiyo
kk so I am so mad at myself for adding this couple but...They are so amazing together the anime altogether was stunning with great animation. I loved watching everything and Ririchiyo was such a timid person who been through hell and knowing Soushi was the one who wrote those letters was so great to watch. The way they evolved and learned to love was epic to me. I loved the supporting cast as well Karuta is a cutie with Inori personality hehe. I wish them the best and hope the manga is just as good because I plan on starting asap.
26. Banri x Kaga Koko
Lets be honest I skipped through like the last 12 at super speed till the last because the whole lose memory back forth ghost Banri this and that was not my cup of tea. What was my cup of tea, Koko! She is a beautiful deep incredible girl who reminds me of my amazing wife. She starts and everyone hated her but I didn't she really was an in depth girl full of emotions and a great person. People should not keep judging just based on looks. The creator of one of my favs Toradora did it again. Regardless of how I felt about the ghost business I recongize a masterpiece when I see one. I love how they grew with each other and how Kaga left her mark on Banri that even after forgetting he remembered again. Also fuq Linda senpai all around! Indecisive hoe lol jk but honestly am happy her and Yana seem like it will work out. Although Oka Chinami is a way better choice imo.
27. Kennosuke x Yukina
Such a good anime. Actually the first anime I completed start to finish on Netflix. The world is at an insane time with Trump and his shenanigans afoot seeing the things he has done in such a short period. This anime was an amazing distraction and made me realize my love for anime and manga all over again. Nothing like marathoning a good show with no distraction from the outside world. All in all a great show Kuromukuro. Loved the take you as a wife bit. I will live on in hope for any confirmation they linked up again 5 years down the line but even if I see nothing I KNOW they did cause you just gotta hope for the best and her going to Mars show that even 5 years later she loved him enough to not let go of that dream. Its such dedication and I love it. Amazing couple amazing show and I hope for another season or ova!!.
28. Rokuro x Benio
kk so the anime was meh but the romance was AWESOME. I loved it and legit the anime wasn't horrible just a bit odd at times. I am happy I stuck with it and so happy for the romance at the end. Benio smile at the last episode made everything worth. Also seeing Rokuro grow into the man he has become was amazing. So happy and wish them all the best. Music scene was weird but cool. Also I think I want my kids to read this one day. My reactions to all my favorite anime right after I finished the series. I want to compare their thoughts with mine. My biggest wish atm is that they can find the joy and love in anime and manga that I find. Its an amazing thing if you just open your mind and heart to it. It helped me to find your mom and it helped to soldify our relationship. Anyways if you really are my child then you will love anime as much as I do and also GO CRAZY FOR A GOOD ROMANCE ONE!
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Lol thanx! Haha and ur fav genres scare me too. =P Lol I'm kidding; I watch romance from time to time. I'm trying to get into a new one called "White Album."
i know what you mean by that ;) when i got into that state i just go play wow or drink with friends, or im going to watch again Black Lagoon or Fate/stay night while waiting for something new to discover x)
jep i watch every type that has good plot, and some of them r just light series for relax something like http://www.anime-planet.com/anime/igpx-immortal-grand-prix
ah yea, my bro has a 360live ive played it for a bit, but it got old fast, same for my bro he doesnt really play it as often as he used to
an wow is more stratigy than ud think well at least pvp is, pve seems basic imo.
its worth to watch x)


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