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11th March 2012 05:14 PM #1
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Late Pregnancies
I'm mulling of having a late pregnancy but I'm already in my forties. As for a friend of mine, she's in her mid-thirties and she has difficulty conceiving. What health advice then would you give to women who still plan to have kids in their 30's and 40's?
Thanks for your time
12th March 2012 03:17 AM #2
Hi Carla,
When you hit your 40's, fertility declines rapidly with each year that passes. You've already mentioned that you're using Natural Progesterone Cream which can be very helpful in supporting fertility.
You'll also want to be sure you're working on your preconception care.
There are women who are in their 20's and have the fertility of a woman in her 40's, and there are women in their 40's who have the fertility of women in their 20's or 30's.
One of my clients had an FSH level of 15.6 when she was 39. This is high and represents low quality eggs and/or low egg reserve. The infertility doctors gave her very little hope of being able to conceive with her own eggs.
But she was desperate and decided to give IVF a try... 4 times. She could not conceive with her own eggs.
That's when I started working with her to naturally boost her fertility. She conceived quickly and gave birth to a healthy baby boy who is now 15 months old.
This mum is now trying for baby #2, at the age of 42 1/2. She just had her hormone levels checked and her FSH has dropped to 10.9. The Traditional Chinese Medicine doctor she is now working with said that she now has the fertility of a 30 year old (and we're hoping for another baby soon).
Please post back how old you are and if you know when you want to start trying to conceive. Many women who are not married yet are opting to have their eggs frozen for when they are ready to have a child. The older you get, the lower the egg quality (typically) so even if you opt to have your eggs frozen for future use, you'll want to be sure you do some preconception care to boost the quality of those eggs.
Warm regards,
12th March 2012 10:45 PM #3
Dear Carla,
Kate's given you some excellent advise above. You may find this thread useful as it explains some of the statistics behind why conceiving a baby gets more difficult as we get older.
I wish you all the best with whatever you choose.
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Your responses are very encouraging. It is like a breath of fresh air, especially when women of my age range are commonly not encouraged to have children. I just love it! It makes me feel better and a lot more confident about having my own kids. Thanks a lot for the information. A big help indeed. I hope other women and even men who read this thread would feel the same as I do.
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Oh, about my age, I'm already 44 years old. I also want to have the quality of my eggs checked before anything else. Aside from knowing your FSH level, are there other indicators that one can one rely on when it comes to determining the quality of one's ova? Thanks.
14th March 2012 03:50 AM #6
Hi Carla,
So glad to hear you are encouraged. That's what we're here for :-)
As far as I know, FSH is the main indicator for quality and quantity of eggs. But your cervical mucus quality and quantity (during your fertile window) will give you good indication of your fertility - whether it is high, low or somewhere in between.
I go into this in more detail in the post entitled "Detecting Ovulation Even With Irregular Periods".
Ultimately the best thing you can do for yourself right now is work on eating a fertility friendly diet and living a fertility friendly lifestyle.
You want to have the mind frame of living and eating as if you were pregnant right now, in order to get pregnant later.
Warm regards,
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Hello Ms Kate!
Good day! I hope you still remembered me. I am here because of you. But I become inactive in the forum after some posting due to some personal reasons that I want to share to you.
I just got married last December 2011. I am 46 years old and had a regular period eve rsince before I got married. However my last period is December 15, 2011 but it did not came since January 2012 so by April 2012 I went to the doctor and she advice me to have an ultrasound to know if I am pregnant. Bu sad to say it was negative. Although in my ultrasound it said that I had normal ovaries when it comes to size and features with no cysts and abnormalities meaning there is no findings. So the obgyne said maybe I am a candidiate for perimenopause, so she advice me to take PROVERA for 10 days to restore my menstruation. But I am afraid to take the medicines because I do not know its side effects n the body. Do you think it is safe to take this? Are there any other natural treatments to regulate back my cycle. Please help...
My husband is working abroad and by August 2012 he will be back home. We desperately want to have a child even only one kid we can call our own. The doctor said that I should take Provera so that by the time my husband will be back my period is back to normal again. Can you also give me some nautural care I can do to my body. Although ever since before I got married I am living a healthy lifestyle because I know I will marry late already and that I should prepare myself to be healthy. no smoking, no drinking, eating healthy and taking prenatal vitamins with folic acid.
Please give me some advices and ideas about this matter so that before my husband come home I can prepare myself of trying to conceive again
Thank you
8th June 2012 12:56 AM #8
Hi Amy,
It's good to hear from you.
I'm sure Kate will give you an really helpful reply to your post. I'm really sorry to hear of the disappointing result at your ultrasound.
Yes it is advised to take folic acid supplements (500 micrograms a day) when you are trying to conceive. You can start taking this now in preparation for your husband's return. Studies have also shown you have the greatest chance of falling pregnant when you avoid caffeine and alcohol. It is also advisable that both you and your husband have a regular exercise program (this doesn't need to be extreme but enough to maintain your health). There is more information in this article: Planning for Pregnancy: Preconception Care.
I wish you and your husband all the best with conceiving,
8th June 2012 04:17 AM #9
Hi Amy,
It's good to see you again :-) It's good news to hear that the ultrasound showed no problems with your ovaries and the fact that the doctor thinks you may be perimenopausal is better than the doctor thinking that your irregular cycles are due to PCOS. In PCOS, you would see a "ring of pearls" on the ovaries from follicles that prepared to release an egg, but then the egg was not released and the follicle became a cyst on the periphery of the ovary. If the doctor is familiar with this, she would have been looking for this "ring of pearls" on the ovaries - the fact that she did not see anything abnormal is a very good thing.
So the next thing I would want to know is if the doctor ordered any hormonal tests to check for your egg quality and your hormonal balance. If she did, please let me know what the results from these tests were. If she did not, please let me know if you are interested in some suggestions on which tests to have done. Once you know where the hormonal imbalance is, then you can address that, specifically.
Truly, I'm never one to advocate the use of synthetic hormones like Provera simply because of the link to breast cancer and other side effects. Provera does not cause ovulation, it is just supposed to have a period. If your cycles aren't regular before Provera, there's a super high chance they won't be regular after Provera. My concern is that Provera won't solve the underlying cause of the irregular cycles, and you really want to solve that problem so that when you do conceive, you'll have a high chance of having a full term pregnancy and giving birth to a healthy baby.
Also, you probably have the option of doing Provera in conjunction with Clomid. Clomid is an ovulation stimulating drug. You would want to talk to your doctor about this.
It's going to be a lot of work for you to bring your body back into a fertile state. I believe it can be done, but you'll need to be dedicated to the process, and this process can take some time. It's June now, your husband is due back in August, so if you wait until September to try hopefully that will give you 3 months of effort, and as we know, it takes about 4 months for an egg to grow into a mature egg that is capable of being fertilized.
Laura Jane had a great link for you, which tells some different things you can be doing now in preparation for conception. The only supplement you are taking now is a Prenatal Vitamin. You'll want to be sure your Vitamin D level is adequate (this is a blood test that can done) and you'll want to be sure you're getting enough Omega 3 Fatty Acids. This comes in the form of fish oil, cod liver oil, flax oil, etc. I would love to see you take 1 Tblsp. of high quality (preferably organic) olive oil every day, 30 minutes before a meal, for a month (my nutritionist even had me doing 2 Tblsp. a day at one time), along with 1 Tblsp. of cod liver oil or a fish oil. Just adding in these two oils each day can help to balance hormones.
I'd also encourage you to be sure you're getting enough pure water and that you're having 2-3 good bowel movements a day. Taking something like organic Chlorophyll and drinking enough water will help to keep the bowels moving well.
I'd highly recommend that you find a natural practitioner in your area who can create a customized plan for you as your age and the perimenopausal signs mean that you need to really find the best practitioners who can create a very specific protocol/plan for you, and can do regular testing and can support your body with acupuncture, herbs, or whatever their specialty is. The more you can do to support your reproductive system the faster you will come into a place of being fertile.
When I was in my mid 30's, I became perimenopausal and I stopped ovulating. I worked closely with 3 practitioners, and I was able to turn it around. But it took a year to do it. The good news is that once I was able to turn it around, I went on to give birth to two more children, the last when I was 40.
Hope this helps and I wish you all the best! Let us know if you have any further questions.
Warm regards,
15th June 2012 01:14 AM #10
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Hello Mam Kate!
Thanks again for the wonderful informations with regards to my inquiries. Are you sure women at perimenopausal age can still get pregnant? Give me some more post about trying to conceive during perimenopause. Right now I am worried. I am praying that by August when my husband comes back I can conceive. But the problem like I told you my period stops since January of the this year. I had regular period before.
With regards to the olive oil I will take it together with the fish oil? Can I take the fish oil in supplement form in capsule which is 1000 mg per piece? Do i need it to take for one month only? I am losing hope already becuase I want to have a child already for my husband.
Please give me more post on how to conceive during perimenopause.
I will be glad to hear from you again
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15th June 2012 02:01 PM #11
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Mam Kate
One thing I also wat to ask how will I know if I am still ovulating with the fact that my period stopped since January....?
Keep me inform. What are the ways where can I restore my ovulation so that my period will come so that by August when my husband comes I will be fertile.. I am really desperate to have a child already.
Thank you
16th June 2012 07:16 AM #12
Hi Amy,
One thing you can do right now is to learn how to watch your body's fertility signs. This is critical at your age because you may ovulate anytime, and your cycles are no longer regular, so knowing a few days in advance, when you're going to ovulate is really important.
Please take a look at the "How To Conceive If You Have Irregular Periods" thread and let me know if you understand what I wrote there. Also let me know if you're seeing any of those fertility signs or if you feel like you're pretty much "dry" all the time (no signs of fertility). I'm 48 now, and I'm pretty much dry all the time. I think my last period was back in January as well. But I know how to read my body's signs, and if I was going to ovulate my body would tell me in advance (though it may only be a day in advance).
If I were going to try to bring my body back into a state of fertility I would avoid all dairy products and all gluten (wheat, oats that don't say "gluten free", etc.). Corn does not have gluten in it and neither does rice. Here's a list of gluten free foods. Make sure you avoid the dairy products in that list while trying to prepare your body for conception. The dairy can cause a bad mucus build up in the fallopian tubes, and we want to be sure the tubes are very open right now.
Dr. Marilyn Glennville has a page on her site that includes a List of Supplements that should be taken at least 3 months before you conceive. Those supplements will help balance your hormones.
As for the oil - yes, you can take the fish oil in supplement form.
You really need to talk to a naturopath or a Traditional Chinese Medicine Practitioner in your area who can give you acupuncture and a special combination of herbs that address your specific fertility challenges. A woman's cycle is very complex, and everything must work in perfect harmony in order for conception to occur and to avoid a miscarriage.
Dr. Seidman has a long distance programme that he offers for women who cannot see him personally. Take a look at this video which shows you more about how Acupuncture and Herbs can help women who are having trouble conceiving...
Probably what I would stress to you more than anything is to find someone who can work with you personally. Someone who will take a detailed record of your history and take a close look at what your cycles are doing now.
You'll probably want to start taking your basil body temperature each day and charting that. You can use Fertility Friend to help you learn how to do this. Having charts will be something that will help your practitioner know what your body is doing so he/she can improve the areas that need improvement.
Get lots of rest, eat properly, exercise daily, take the right supplements, take the proper herbs, work with a holistic practitioner who can help to bring your body into a state of fertility. These are all things that will help you.
Warm regards,
30th June 2012 12:28 AM #13
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Hello Mum Kate!
Good day! After I read your posts about taking 1 tbsp olive oil 30 minutes before meal together with fish oil supplement I already started taking this. How long will I take this? As you had said at this stage of perimenopause it is very critical at my age 47 years old with no regular cycle anymore. As I told you my last period is last December 2011. Now it is already going to be July already. But to my surprises after days of taking the live oil and fish oil I had cervical mucus everyday. You said that I may ovulate anytime.
Can you please explain further. My husband will come home this month of August as I said to you in my previous post. Right now I am losing hope if my period will come this July so that by August with God's divine mercy conceiving will be possible even I am nearing menopause. Like what I said my ultrasound said that I had normal ovaries and no cysts found and no other findings.
Along with this olive oil and fish oil I also take multivitamins, eat healthy foods, what other natural herbs can help me to conceive? I read that parsley tea can bring a period is it true? And honey and cinnamon when taking together everyday is also a preconception formula. Is it true also. I will anything to bring my period again and to be fertile before month of August.
Please give more infos. Now I am relying to all your posts. I did not use Provera as what my ongyne said. I am afraid of the effects of breast cancer. Give me more natural tips on how to bring back a period for a perimenopausal woman who wants to have a child even if it is too late.
Will be waiting for your next post.
Warm Regards
30th June 2012 12:37 AM #14
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Mum Kate,
To add to my post, during my previous period since it started when I was 12 years old up to the time it stopped last December 2011 I am 47 years oldbecause my doctor said that I am in perimenopausal stage it is very normal always regular no signs of menstrual cramps and pains. I had gone through me menstrual period with no problems eversince. And one thing is had always short cycle ranging from 21 days sometimes 25 days. What does it means when a woman had short cycles? Can you give me some infos also about this. Do you think this will have something to do with conceiving?
Thanks again
5th July 2012 02:54 AM #15
Hi Amy,
It's good to hear from you again. Sorry for my late replies.
You had regular cycles from 12 years of age until you were 47. Now you haven't had a period since December. You also mentioned that your cycles have always been short, ranging from 12 to 25 days in length.
The "typical" peri-menopausal pattern is to go from regular cycles of around 28-30 days, to shorter cycles, and then to longer cycles, like skipping many months. I am 48 years old and I always had very regular cycles, no PMS when I was fertile. Then when I started peri-menopause the cycles became much shorter, and now I am skipping months - with my periods coming about once every 5 months or so. Eventually, when I go an entire year without a period or without ovulating, that will be what is considered "menopause".
Have you had any blood work done? I think it would be very important for you to know what your FSH level is. This is a test which is done on day 3 of your cycle and indicates the quality and QUANTITY of your eggs. If you don't have very many eggs left, there's not much which can be done in order to help you conceive, for without the release of an egg, conception cannot occur.
However, we do know that we can increase egg quality, so if you have some eggs, we will want to increase the quality of those eggs so that if your body decides to ovulate, the quality of the egg ovulated will be the best it can be.
You may want to consider taking the Provera for just one cycle, to bring your period on in hopes that you will ovulate in August, but my biggest concern isn't so much the lack of a period as it is the quantity of eggs you have. If you are able to have a period, then you could do the "Day 3" FSH test on the 3rd day of your period. This is a blood test. If the FSH is elevated (a higher number) the lower the egg reserve.
I want you to read up on Day 3 Testing of Ovarian Reserve. It's really important that you understand what is happening in your body.
Please post back after you have read this information and let me know what you learned. I will continue to track with your questions and offer insights and suggestions as needed.
Warm regards,


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Ira Taxin was born in New York in 1950. He studied composition with Gardner Read at Boston University, and with Roger Sessions, Elliott Carter and Milton Babbitt at The Juilliard School. Mr. Taxin has received commissions from the Fromm and Koussevitzky Music Foundations, grants from the National Endowment for the Arts, and fellowships to Tanglewood. He has been the recipient of awards and prizes from BMI and the National Institute of Arts and Letters, and his works have been performed by leading orchestras such as the New York Philharmonic and Cincinnati Symphony. Active as a composer, arranger, and producer of music for television, films, and commercials, Mr. Taxin currently resides in New York where he has his own production company, Aquarius Music Productions. He is also on the faculty of The Juilliard School, and his music is published by Theodore Presser Company. Fanfare for Brass Quintet was commissioned by the Empire Brass Quintet in honor of the American Bicentennial, and was originally intended as the first movement of the composers Brass Quintet. The composer describes the piece as the traditional fanfare or call-to-order in an atonally-dissonant style.
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IT had been a princely day. The long morning had melted slowly into a rich afternoon. Rains had covered the karroo with a heavy coat of green that hid the red earth everywhere. In the very chinks of the stone walls dark green leaves hung out, and beauty and growth had crept even into the beds of the sandy furrows, and lined them with weeds. On the broken sod walls of the old pigsty chick-weeds flourished, and ice-plants lifted their transparent leaves. Waldo was at work in the waggon-house again. He was making a kitchen-table for Em. As the long curls gathered in heaps before his plane, he page: 295 paused for an instant now and again to throw one down to a small naked nigger, who had crept from its mother who stood churning in the sunshine, and had crawled into the waggon-house. From time to time the little animal lifted its fat hand as it expected a fresh shower of curls; till Doss, jealous of his master's noticing any other small creature but himself, would catch the curl in his mouth and roll the little Kaffir over in the saw-dust, much to that small animal's contentment. It was too lazy an afternoon to be really ill-natured, so Doss satisfied himself with snapping at the little nigger's fingers, and sitting on him till he laughed. Waldo, as he worked, glanced down at them now and then, and smiled; but he never looked out across the plain. He was conscious without looking of that broad green earth; it made his work pleasant to him. Near the shadow at the gable the mother of the little nigger stood churning. Slowly she raised page: 296 and let fall the stick in her hands, murmuring to herself a sleepy chant such as her people love; it sounded like the humming of far-off bees.
A different life showed itself in the front of the house, where Tant' Sannie's cart stood ready inspanned, and the Boer-woman herself sat in the front room drinking coffee. She had come to visit her step-daughter, probably for the last time, as she now weighed two hundred and sixty pounds, and was not easily able to move. On a chair sat her mild young husband nursing the baby—a pudding-faced, weak-eyed child.
"You take it and get into the cart with it," said Tant' Sannie. "What do you want here, listening to our woman's talk?"
The young man arose, and meekly went out with the baby.
"I'm very glad you are going to be married, my child," said Tant' Sannie, as she drained the last drop from her coffee cup. "I wouldn't say page: 297 so while that boy was here, it would make him too conceited; but marriage is the finest thing in the world. I've been at it three times, and if it pleased God to take this husband from me I should have another. There's nothing like it, my child; nothing."
"Perhaps it might not suit all people, at all times, as well as it suits you, Tant' Sannie," said Em. There was a little shade of weariness in the voice.
"Not suit every one!" said Tant' Sannie. "If the beloved Redeemer didn't mean men to have wives what did He make women for? That's what I say. If a woman's old enough to marry and doesn't she's sinning against the Lord—it's a wanting to know better than Him. What, does she think the Lord took all that trouble in making her for nothing? It's evident He wants babies, otherwise why does He send them? Not that I've done much in that way myself," said page: 298 Tant' Sannie, sorrowfully; "but I've done my best."
She rose with some difficulty from her chair, and began moving slowly toward the door.
"It's a strange thing," she said, "but you can't love a man till you've had a baby by him. Now there's that boy there,—when we were first married if he only sneezed in the night I boxed his ears; now if he lets his pipe-ash come on my milk-cloths I don't think of laying a finger on him. There's nothing like being married," said Tant' Sannie, as she puffed toward the door. "If a woman's got a baby and a husband she's got the best things the Lord can give her; if only the baby doesn't have convulsions. As for a husband, it's very much the same who one has. Some men are fat, and some men are thin; some men drink brandy, and some men drink gin; but it all comes to the page: 299 same thing in the end; it's all one. A man's a man, you know."
Here they came upon Gregory, who was sitting in the shade before the house. Tant' Sannie shook hands with him.
"I'm glad you're going to get married," she said. "I hope you'll have as many children in five years as a cow has calves, and more too. I think I'll just go and have a look at your soap-pot before I start," she said, turning to Em. "Not that I believe in this new plan of putting soda in the pot. If the dear Father had meant soda to be put into soap what would He have made milk-bushes for, and stuck them all over the 'veld' as thick as lambs in the lambing season?"
She waddled off after Em in the direction of the built-in soap-pot, leaving Gregory as they found him, with his dead pipe lying on the bench beside him, and his blue eyes gazing out far page: 300 across the flat, like one who sits on the sea-shore watching that which is fading, fading from him. Against his breast was a letter found in the desk addressed to himself, but never posted. It held only four words: "You must marry Em." He wore it in a black bag round his neck. It was the only letter she had ever written to him.
"You see if the sheep don't have the scab this year!" said Tant' Sannie as she waddled after Em. "It's with all these new inventions that the wrath of God must fall on us. What were the children of Israel punished for, if it wasn't for making a golden calf? I may have my sins, but I do remember the tenth commandment. 'Honour thy father and mother that it may be well with thee, and that thou mayest live long in the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee!' It's all very well to say we honour them, and then to be finding out things page: 301 that they never knew, and doing things in a way that they never did them! My mother boiled soap with bushes, and I will boil soap with bushes. If the wrath of God is to fall upon this land," said Tant' Sannie, with the serenity of conscious virtue, "it shall not be through me. Let them make their steam-waggons and their fire-carriages; let them go on as though the dear Lord didn't know what He was about when He gave horses and oxen legs,—the destruction of the Lord will follow them. I don't know how such people read their Bibles. When do we hear of Moses or Noah riding in a railway? The Lord sent fire-carriages out of heaven in those days: there's no chance of His sending them for us if we go on in this way," said Tant' Sannie sorrowfully, thinking of the splendid chance which this generation had lost.
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"Depend upon it you'll get the itch, or some other disease; the blessing of the Lord'll never rest upon it," said the Boer-woman. Then suddenly she broke forth. "And she eighty-two, and goats, and rams, and eight thousand morgan, and the rams real angora, and two thousand sheep, and a shorthorn bull," said Tant' Sannie, standing upright and planting a hand on each hip.
Em looked at her in silent wonder. Had connubial bliss and the joys of motherhood really turned the old Boer-woman's head?
"Yes," said Tant' Sannie; "I had almost forgotten to tell you. By the Lord if I had him here! We were walking to church last Sacrament Sunday, Piet and I. Close in front of us with old Tant' Trana, with dropsy and cancer, and can't live eight months. Walking by her was something with its hands under its coat-tails, flap, flap, flap; and its chin in the air, page: 303 and a stick-up collar, and the black hat on the very back of the head. I knew him! 'Who's that?' I asked. 'The rich Englishman that Tant' Trana married last week.' 'Rich Englishman! I'll rich Englishman him,' I said; 'I'll tell Tant' Trana a thing or two.' My fingers were just in his little white curls. If it hadn't been the blessed Sacrament, he wouldn't have walked so 'sourka, sourka, courka,' any more. But I thought, wait till I've had it, and then—. But he, sly fox, son of Satan, seed of the Amalekite, he saw me looking at him in the church. The blessed Sacrament wasn't half over when he takes Tant' Trana by the arm, and out they go. I clap my baby down to its father, and I go after them. But," said Tant' Sannie, regretfully, "I couldn't get up to them; I am too fat. When I got to the corner he was pulling Tant' Trana up into the cart. 'Tant' Trana,' I said, 'you've married a Kaffir's dog, page: 304 a Hottentot's brakje.' I hadn't any more breath. He winked at me; he winked at me," said Tant' Sannie, her sides shaking with indignation, "first with one eye, and then with the other, and then drove away. Child of the Amalekite!" said Tant' Sannie, "if it hadn't been the blessed Sacrament. Lord, Lord, Lord!"
Here the little Bush-girl came running to say that the horses would stand no longer, and still breathing out vengeance against her old adversary she laboured toward the cart. Shaking hands and affectionately kissing Em, she was with some difficulty drawn up. Then slowly the cart rolled away, the good Boer-woman putting her head out between the sails to smile and nod. Em stood watching it for a time, then as the sun dazzled her eyes she turned away. There was no use in going to sit with Gregory: he liked best sitting there alone, staring across the the green karroo; and till the maid had done churning page: 305 there was nothing to do; so Em walked away to the waggon-house, and climbed on to the end of Waldo's table, and sat there, swinging one little foot slowly to and fro, while the wooden curls from the plane heaped themselves up against her black print dress.
"Waldo," she said at last, "Gregory has given me the money he got for the waggon and oxen, and I have fifty pounds besides that once belonged to some one. I know what they would have liked to have done with it. You must take it and go to some place and study for a year or two."
"No, little one, I will not take it," he said, as he planed slowly away; "the time was when I would have been very grateful to any one who would have given me a little money, a little help, a little power of gaining knowledge. But now, I have gone so far alone I may go on to the end. I don't want it, little one."page: 306
She did not seem pained at his refusal, but swung her foot to and fro, the little old wrinkled forehead more wrinkled up than ever.
"Why is it always so, Waldo, always so?" she said; "we long for things, and long for them, and pray for them; we would give all we have to come near to them, but we never reach them. Then at last, too late, just when we don't want them any more, when all the sweetness is taken out of them, then they come. We don't want them then," she said, folding their hands resignedly on her little apron. After a while she added: "I remember once, very long ago, when I was a very little girl, my mother had a work-box full of coloured reels. I always wanted to play with them, but she would never let me. At last one day she said I might take the box. I was so glad I hardly knew what to do. I ran round the house, and sat down with it on the back steps. page: 307 But when I opened the box all the cottons were taken out."
She sat for a while longer, till the Kaffir maid had finished churning, and was carrying the butter toward the house. Then Em prepared to slip off the table, but first she laid her little hand on Waldo's. He stopped his planing and looked up.
"Gregory is going to the town to-morrow. He is going to give in our bans to the minister; we are going to be married in three weeks."
Waldo lifted her very gently from the table. He did not congratulate her; perhaps he thought of the empty box, but he kissed her forehead gravely.
She walked away toward the house, but stopped when she got half-way. "I will bring you a glass of buttermilk when it is cool," she called out; and soon her clear voice came ringing out through the back windows as she page: 308 sang the 'Blue Water' to herself, and washed the butter.
Waldo did not wait till she returned. Perhaps he had at last really grown weary of work; perhaps he felt the waggon-house chilly (for he had shuddered two or hree three times), though this was hardly likely in that warm summer weather; or, perhaps, and most probably, one of his old dreaming fits had come upon him suddenly. He put his tools together, ready for to-morrow, and walked slowly out. At the side of the waggon-house there was a world of bright sunshine, and a hen with her chickens was scratching among the gravel. Waldo seated himself near them with his back against the red-brick wall. The long afternoon was half spent, and the kopje was just beginning to cast its shadow over the round-headed yellow flowers that grew between it and the farm-house. Among the flowers the white butterflies hovered and on the old "kraal" page: 309 mounds three white kids gamboled, and at the door of one of the huts an old grey-headed Kaffir-woman sat on the ground mending her mats. A balmy, restful peacefulness seemed to reign everywhere. Even the old hen seemed well-satisfied. She scratched among the stones and called to her chickens when she found a treasure; and all the while tucked to herself with intense inward satisfaction. Waldo, as he sat with his knees drawn up to his chin and his arms folded on them, looked at it all and smiled. An evil world, a deceitful, treacherous, mirage-like world, it might be; but a lovely world for all that, and to sit there gloating in the sunlight was perfect. It was worth having been a little child, and having cried and prayed so one might sit there. He moved his hands as though he were washing them in the sunshine. There will always be something worth living for while there are shimmery afternoons. Waldo chuckled with intense page: 310 inward satisfaction as the old hen had done—she, over the insects and the warmth; he, over the old brick-walls, and the haze, and the little bushes. Beauty is God's wine, with which He recompenses the souls that love Him; he He makes them drunk.
The fellow looked, and at last stretched out one hand to a little ice-plant that grew on the sod wall of the sty; not as though he would have picked it, but as it were in a friendly greeting. He loved it. One little leaf of the ice-plant stood upright, and the sun shone through it. He could see every little crystal cell like a drop of ice in the transparent green, and it thrilled him.
There are only rare times when a man's soul can see Nature. So long as any passion holds its revel there, the eyes are holden that they should not see her.
Go out if you will, and walk alone on the page: 311 hill-side in the evening, but if your favourite child lies ill at home, or your lover comes to-morrow, or at your heart there lies a scheme for the holding of wealth, then you will return as you went out; you will have seen nothing. For Nature, ever, like the old Hebrew God, cries out, "Thou shalt have no other gods before me." Only then, when there comes a pause, a blank in your life, when the old idol is broken, when the old hope is dead, when the old desire is crushed, then the Divine compensation of Nature is made manifest. She shows herself to you. So near she draws you, that the blood seems to flow from her to you, through a still uncut cord: you feel the throb of her life.
When that day comes, that you sit down broken, without one human creature to whom you cling, with your loves the dead and the living-dead; when the very thirst for knowledge through page: 312 long-continued thwarting has grown dull; when in the present there is no craving, and in the future no hope, then, oh, with a beneficent tenderness, Nature enfolds you.
Then the large white snow-flakes as they flutter down, softly, one by one, whisper soothingly, "Rest, poor heart, rest!" It is as though our mother smoothed our hair, and we are comforted.
And yellow-legged bees as they hum make a dreamy lyric; and the light on the brown stone wall is a great work of art; and the light through the leaves makes the pulses beat.
Well to die then; for, if you live, so surely as the years come, so surely as the spring succeeds the winter, so surely will passions arise. They will creep back, one by one, into the bosom that has cast them forth, and fasten there again, and peace will go. Desire, ambi- ambition page: 313 tion, and the fierce agonizing flood of love for the living—they will spring again. Then Nature will draw down her veil; with all your longing you shall not be able to raise one corner; you cannot bring back those peaceful days. Well to die then!
Sitting there with his arms folded on his knees, and his hat slouched down over his face, Waldo looked out into the yellow sunshine that tinted even the very air with the colour of ripe corn, and was happy.
He was an uncouth creature with small learning, and no prospect in the future but that of making endless tables and stone-walls, yet it seemed to him as he sat there that life was a rare and very rich thing. He rubbed his hands in the sunshine. Ah, to live on so, year after year, how well! Always in the present; letting each day glide, bringing its page: 314 own labour, and its own beauty; the gradual lighting up of the hills, night and the stars, fire-light and the coals! To live on so, calmly, far from the paths of men; and to look at the lives of clouds and insects; to look deep into the heart of flowers, and see how lovingly the pistil and the stamens nestle there together; and to see in the thorn-pods how the little seeds suck their life through the delicate curled-up string, and how the little embryo sleeps inside! Well, how well, to sit so on one side taking no part in the world's life; but when great men blossom into books looking into those flowers also, to see how the world of men too opens beautifully, leaf after leaf. Ah! life is delicious; well to live long, and see the darkness breaking, and the day coming! The day when soul shall not thrust back soul that would come to it; when men shall not be driven to seek solitude because of the crying out of their page: 315 hearts for love and sympathy. Well to live long and see the new time breaking. Well to live long; life is sweet, sweet, sweet! In his breast pocket, where of old the broken slate used to be, there was now a little dancing-shoe of his friend who was sleeping. He could feel it when he folded his arm tight against his breast; and that was well also. He drew his hat lower over his eyes and sat so motionless that the chickens thought he was asleep, and gathered closer around him. One even ventured to peck at his boot; but he ran away quickly. Tiny, yellow fellow that he was, he knew that men were dangerous; even sleeping they might awake. But Waldo did not sleep, and coming back from his sunshiny dream, stretched out his hand for the tiny thing to mount. But the chicken eyed the hand askance, and then ran off to hide under page: 316 its mother's wing, and from beneath it it sometimes put out its round head to peep at the great figure sitting there. Presently its brothers ran off after a little white moth, and it ran out to join them; and when the moth fluttered away over their heads they stood looking up disappointed, and then ran back to their mother.
Waldo through his half-closed eyes looked at them. Thinking, fearing, craving, those tiny sparks of brother life, what were they, so real there in that old yard on that sunshiny afternoon? A few years—where would they be? Strange little brother spirits! He stretched his hand toward them, for his heart went out to them; but not one of the little creatures came nearer him, and he watched them gravely for a time; then he smiled, and began muttering to himself after his old fashion. Afterward he folded his arms upon his knees, and rested his page: 317 forehead on them. And so he sat there in the yellow sunshine, muttering, muttering, muttering, to himself.
It was not very long after when Em came out at the back-door with a towel thrown across her head, and in her hand a cup of milk.
"Ah," she said, coming close to him, "he is sleeping now. He will find it when he wakes, and be glad of it."
She put it down upon the ground beside him. The mother-hen was at work still among the stones, but the chickens had climbed about him and were perching on him. One stood upon his shoulder, and rubbed its little head softly against his black curls: another tried to balance itself on the very edge of the old felt hat. One tiny fellow stood upon his hand, and tried to crow; another had nestled itself down comfortably on the old coat-sleeve, and gone to sleep there.page: 318
Em did not drive them away; but she covered the glass softly at his side. "He will wake soon," she said, "and be glad of it."
But the chickens were wiser.


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By NEMS Daily Journal
OXFORD – Former Panola County administrator David Chandler cannot appeal his 2011 guilty plea.
U.S. District Judge Sharion Aycock on Tuesday denied his motion for more time, writing that she found "no good cause or excusable neglect" to allow Chandler more time after he missed the filing deadline.
Chandler, 58, pleaded guilty to two federal counts that he defrauded and embezzled from the county.
Last month, he began serving a 14-month prison sentence at a federal facility in Yazoo County.
Chandler's attorney, Hiram Eastland of Greenwood, asked Aycock to allow his client more time, claiming Chandler was so depressed that he couldn't make a decision about the appeal until it was beyond the deadline.


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Think I'll never understand why there's always an affiliation of dawgs trained Pos. Re- with our British friends across the pond.
Just know I'm not the only American, (and Americans before me, and Americans before them), that's never completely forced a dog to do anything.
That said-
Know that after having trained my first Collar dog several years ago there's no going back...
Lots of Ways to Train a Dog
Dawgs are like Savings Accounts-
You only get out of 'em what you put into 'em.
British training and no force training are not the same thing. In Britain aversives are used in training,just not collars or FF.
Force fetching is just a tool.
Yes, American labs are bred to deliver the hand. ANY Lab, is bred to deliver to hand. Some are better at it then others but with reinforcement and working with on it its easy peasy.
I think people get confused about the REASON for force fetching.
Force fetching is the tool that is used to change retrieving from the dog's game to OUR game. It changes the dynamics of the "retrieve". It makes it a command vs "asking".
To me, its the single most important tool in training. When I am out hunting, I don't want the dog to have a CHOICE to refuse. Get the bird, go when I tell you and go where I tell you.
Upon the process of force fetch, its extended to teach and reinforce "non-natural" hunting tasks (ie handling).
People get "sold" on the whole "non-force" program because it SOUNDS kindler and gentler. Its easier to "stomach" for most average trainers until....until....well until the "non-force fetched" dog quits. If it quits, you have NO TOOLS in place to compel it to do what you want it to do (retrieve).
Also, please keep in mind, that the British do not hunt like we do. They do not sit in marshes and decoy ducks. They do not sit in pit blinds and call for geese.
If I was going to go 4x4ing I would get a truck, I would NOT buy a mini cooper.
I think most dont understand force training and it is mainly because of the word force. Just because the word force is used doesnt mean the dog is being forced to do something it doesnt want to. It is simply a method of training.
Has anyone out there seen a dog that would consistently handle a poison bird in a hunting situation that was trained without being force fetched, or without force to get the dog pasted the poison bird and on the the cripple that would be lost if it was not retrieved first?
British or American or Chinese is of no consequence.
"That's a fine dog you got there son. Looks like one of ya'll got the brains and the other one got the driver's license.".
British labs are born completly trained, I thought everyone knew that.
"The thing I admire about the rat tail is that it takes commitment. It's not like one day you just decide you want one, you have to grow out that bad boy and you have to repeatedly convince the hairdresser to trust you because it's a great idea."
Do have to answer yes to your question however...my own dog...however, it didn't come easy.
And if you had the same set up in a HT, on land my dog back then would have handled well, but more than likely I'd have left the Test losing an entry fee.
Dawgs are like Savings Accounts-
You only get out of 'em what you put into 'em.
I have witnessed very nice British dogs. No arguments here that they can and will perform the task.
My point is more on the no force required. All Labs need training to be usefull hunting companions. I have never met a person who trained with a current modern e collar program that returned to their old program.
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Big government? Heck why not take this thread: anti-abortion legislation. There is one for you. With every legislation comes oversight. With every oversight comes a new committee who does the overseeing. And with that additional government resources are being used. Thus big government. But of course if it fits your morals and political views it really is not big government.
And of course you haven't answer my question: what do you consider a baby?
Finheaven Tailgate Thread: http://www.finheaven.com/showthread....ilgate-East-22
http://news.yahoo.com/davis-chides-p...opstories.htmlThe Democratic state senator who is leading the fight against significant new restrictions on abortions in Texas said Gov. Rick Perry and other Republicans were hypocritical, claiming to support smaller government but actually trying to increase state intrusion in people's lives.
Wendy Davis, the lawmaker who single-handedly overcame and outlasted the Republican majority in the state senate last week, is preparing for another battle on Monday. Armed with her new-found fame in Democratic circles in Texas and across the nation, Davis vowed to fight even harder.
"He's awfully fond of talking the talk of small government," Davis told ABC's "This Week," escalating an intense quarrel with Perry. "But this [anti-abortion legislation] is big government intrusion, there is no question about it."...
In an expansive interview about her life, the state of Texas politics and her future, Davis said she was heartened by the outpouring of support from women and Democrats, which catapulted her from local legislator to one of her party's prospective rising stars. Asked if she planned to run for governor in 2014, she smiled.
Well, this could get entertaining.
Terrorist attack count against the Anything Goes Thread: 5
Clearly you misinterpreted my post. Thanks to those above clarifying it for you.
Texas swung massively towards republicans during the time of Tom Delay when he funneled massive amounts of corporate money into local elections then used the huge advantage to gerrymander the democrats away.
I did find it ironic though how this was being championed. I realize it is a publicity stunt by the democrats. An effort to revive their party in Texas and to push up a new role model in a red state.
The fact is though this battle was lost long ago and all Mrs. Davis did was delay reality for a couple of months.
FWIW I am strongly Pro-Choice.
Lol @ dude-on-dude debates about abortion
A fetus has a brain, beating heart, and eyes and ears at week 12. It is a human being.
The concept that women can murder an innocent human life after week 12 is just barbaric. The baby is not a parasite, it becomes an obligation.
I am not impressed with Wendy Davis. If this is the crowning achievement in her life, what a sad life story.
@phins_4_ever - please stop trying to use the term Republican and/or Libertarian as a pejorative because it only magnifies your small mindedness.
So let's examine the bill on its face. The bill would place a ban on abortions after 20 weeks and would have led to the shutdown after multiple clinics (per the NY Times). So you are telling me that in a four month period that women cannot make up their minds as to whether they want or don't want to have the kid.
Let's see, one has unprotected sex, gets knocked up, refuses to take a morning after pill and continues to debate over a whole trimester whether or not to go through with having an abortion. As far as I am concerned, you might as well see it through. If you can't afford to raise the kid for whatever financial reasons, why not give it up for adoption at that point. I know there are plenty of gay couples that would love to raise that child as their own and turn the kid into yet another progressive voter. You would be denying them of the family they never had, and you wouldn't want that right?
Seriously though, at which point does the mom no longer get to decide she wants to terminate the process? Should it be when she's actually giving birth? Maybe such women can make judgment calls like cats and kill their defective offspring. I mean at some point you do have to draw a line in the sand, and while I am not a religious guy and feel that abortion is sometimes merited, it shouldn't be used as birth control. Three months is enough time to make the decision, otherwise if you are struggling with the decision any longer than that, you may have regrets about having the abortion anyway.
As for the shutdown of multiple clinics, the government doesn't need to be funding this stuff with what seems to be a never ending supply of tax payer money. If pregnant women want to pay (with money or via insurance) for their mistake fine, but taxpayers shouldn't be penalized for such indiscretions.
In summary, Wendy Davis was full of hot air, 11 hours of it actually, and she was as much of a "hero" as a meatball sandwich.


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The Hope College softball team has taken some long road trips for games during its history, but none matches the upcoming odyssey of coach Karla Wolters' Flying Dutch who will leave Monday (Aug. 12) for a 10-day tour of Australia.
By air, it is 9,385 miles from Holland, Mich. to Sydney, Australia. The final leg from Los Angeles to Sydney takes 14 hours.
This is the first international trip for the Hope softball program which annually takes spring ventures to Florida for a series of pre-season games.
Other Hope teams that have travelled overseas in the past have included men's and women's basketball, football and men's soccer.
Coach Wolters, who has guided Hope's softball fortunes since 1988, is no stranger to Australia. She travelled there for the 2000 Olympic games and witnessed the softball competition.
The team has three scheduled games in Sydney and a doubleheader in Cairns, Australia which will require yet another flight. In addition to the games, there will be plenty of sightseeing and the opportunity for a community service project in Cairns.
The teams returns to the United States on August 22. Classes for the fall semester at Hope begin on August 27.
Players participating in the trip include senior Andrea Adams of Fairgrove, sophomore Kristin Barncord of Granger, Ind., senior Jen Boersma of Door, senior Angie Bunker of Muskegon, sophomore Lisa Burgess of Dorr, sophomore Cristi DeGraff of South Holland, Ill., sophomore Jill English of Grandville, sophomore Candace Graham of Hudsonville, junior Kelly Kraft of Brown City, sophomore Kristen Lodden of Rockford, junior Allison Miller of Hopkins, sophomore Alex Reed of Lansing, senior Kristi Ridge of Elk Rapids, junior Erin Riley of Homer Glen, Ill., sophomore Jessica Robinson of Grand Haven, sophomore Megan Sheehan of Hudsonville, sophomore Sammie Smith of Hudsonville, sophomore Lauren Vande Kopple of Rockford, and sophomore Ashley VanMeter of Dansville.


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This event will include discussions and demonstrations around:
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Evelyn M. Russell
Evelyn H. Russell, age 97, a longtime Janesville resident, passed away early Saturday, January 19, 2013 at Cozy L'il Acre, where she had resided for the past year. She was born June 12, 1915 in Ripon, WI, the daughter of the late Harry & Ida (Kohuke) Denzin. She was a graduate of Ft. Atkinson High School. On July 4, 1936 she married Perry E. Russell in Ft. Atkinson, WI. He preceded her in death on April 1, 1978.
Evelyn worked with her husband as the bookkeeper/accountant for their family business, Russell Construction Co. She was a very active member of Mt. Calvary Lutheran Church, Janesville, and had been a member of the Ladies Aid.
She enjoyed working on jigsaw puzzles, and was talented and skilled at knitting and crocheting. Evelyn had served as a senior companion well into her eighties, and was also active with the Janesville Senior Center. She loved to travel, and journeyed to Hawaii twice in her later years! Evelyn loved working in her gardens, and especially the beautiful flowers she could grow!
But her greatest love was her family, and she spent as much time as possible with them!
She is survived by her 3 children, Betty Lohrman, of Janesville, Ron (Linda) Russell, of Nekoosa, WI, and Jo Ann McCarthy, also of Janesville, her 7 grandchildren, several great-grandchildren, nieces, nephews, and friends. Besides her husband and parents, she was preceded in death by a daughter, Mary Jean, 2 sons, Johnny and Sonny Russell, a grandson, David Lohrman, her brother, Roy Denzin, and by her 2 sons-in-law, Daniel McCarthy and Bob Lohrman.
Funeral services will be held at 2:00 P.M. on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 at MT. CALVARY LUTHERAN CHURCH, 2940 Mineral point Ave., with Rev. Cory Rajek officiating. Burial will take place in Milton Lawns Memorial Park. Friends may call on Wednesday from 1:00 until 2:00 P.M. at the CHURCH.
1 - 2 PM on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 at Mt. Calvary Lutheran Church; 2940 Mineral Pt. Ave., Janesville.
2 PM on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 at Mt. Calvary Lutheran Church; 2940 Mineral Pt. Ave., Janesville.
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Talks set on bias and conflict resolution, May 9-10
Posted May 3, 2002; 02:31 p.m.
Lee Ross, a professor of psychology at Stanford University and co-founder of the Stanford Center on Conflict and Negotiation, will deliver two lectures on campus.
He will discuss "Understanding Misunderstanding: Some Perspectives on Perception of Bias" at 4 p.m. Thursday, May 9, in 104 Computer Science Building.
At 4 p.m. Friday, May 10, he will address "Barriers to Interpersonal and Intergroup Dispute Resolution ... and Some Techniques to Overcome Them" in the Langfield Lounge, Green Hall.
Ross is an authority on research concerning biases in human inference, judgment and decision-making. His extensive program of empirical research examines the cognitive, perceptual and motivational biases that lead people to misinterpret each other's behavior and that create particular barriers to dispute resolution.
His addresses are part of the Edward Jones Lectures in Social Psychology sponsored by the Department of Psychology .
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Chapter 3: Addition and Subtraction of Decimals
In Math 6, the learning content is divided into Concepts. Each Concept is complete and whole providing focused learning on an indicated objective. Theme-based Concepts provide students with experiences that integrate the content of each Concept. Students are given opportunities to practice the skills of each Concept through real-world situations, examples, guided practice and independent practice sections. In this third chapter, Adding and Subtracting Decimals, students will engage in many Concepts including decimal place value, reading and writing decimals, decimal money amounts, metric measurement, sums and differences of decimals, stem-and-leaf plots and estimation.
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Numbers with Decimal Place Value
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Numbers in Expanded Form
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Decimals in Words
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Combinations of Decimal Money Amounts
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Equivalent Metric Units of Length
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Metric Unit Length Conversions
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Appropriate Tools for Metric Length Measurement
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Appropriate Decimal Units for Metric Measurement
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Metric Length Comparison
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Decimal Comparison
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Decimal Rounding on a Number Line
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Decimal Rounding Given Place Value
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Small Decimal Rounding to a Leading Digit
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Large Decimal Rounding to Decimal Representations
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Decimal Rounding to Estimate Sums and Differences
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Front-End Estimation
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Decimal Addition
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Decimal Subtraction
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Mental Math to Add and Subtract Decimals
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Properties in Decimal Operations
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Stem-and-Leaf Plots
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Stem-and-Leaf Plots, Range of a Data Set
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Stem-and-Leaf Plots, Mean, Median and Mode
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Problem Solving Plan, Estimation with Decimals
Chapter Summary
Having completed this chapter, students are now ready to move on to Chapter Four. Each Concept has provided students with an opportunity to engage and practice skills in many Concepts including decimal place value, reading and writing decimals, decimal money amounts, metric measurement, sums and differences of decimals, stem-and-leaf plots and estimation.


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About Mind Games®
The Mensa Mind Games® competition provides an opportunity for game manufacturers to compete in one of the most respected and recognizable national games competitions, while having their games reviewed by some of the nation's most avid game-players — members of American Mensa.
Each year, 300 Mensan participants, or "judges," play and critique games released in the past year and award the coveted Mensa Select® seal to the top five vote-getters. Past winners include Scattergories™, Trivial Pursuit™ and Taboo™.
Mind Games is 40-plus-straight hours, from Friday morning to Sunday. Judges tend to play around-the-clock, breaking only for food, drink and sleep. Hospitality is open 24-hours, but unlike the Hospitality experienced at gatherings, it is intended only for quick refreshment between games.
Board games, card games and other types of table and party games are eligible; games may be designed for one or more players. Games are judged on aesthetics, instructions, originality, play appeal and play value. Judges fill out comment cards for each game. After the competition, each manufacturer receives the comment cards, which show the age and gender of players and include their ratings and comments regarding the game.
The competition is not open to games that are incomplete or not yet in production. Video, electronic, computer games or any games that take an inordinately long time to set up and play cannot be accommodated.


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Ivy league sports celebrates Black History Month
Posted February 2, 2001; 11:37 a.m.
Ivy League celebrates Black History Month with a web presentation of stories, anecdotes, photos and memories. These materials highlight both the rich history of African-Americans' achievements in Ivy League athletics, and the diverse contributions which these graduates have made to their institutions, their communities, and the nation at large.
Two Princeton alums mentioned on the web site are Nicole Harrison '98 for Track and Field and Armond Hill '85 for Basketball.
For more information visit the Ivy League web site at IvyLeagueSports .
Contact: Marilyn Marks (609) 258-3601


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Hacking Launchpad
A couple weeks ago, I wrote a quick hack for myself and the Online Services team at Canonical, to help make doing reviews on all the projects we manage, much easier. It pulls the list of branch merge proposals for each project from Launchpad, and sticks them all in a nice list in a GtkTreeView, along with the number of votes, and what type of vote. As there was a lot of immediate interest in the tool from other people, I ended up creating a new project on Launchpad, and pushing the code to a public branch there, under the GPLv3. You'll find it at http://launchpad.net/lptools. I will probably be adding other tools soon as well, as every time I have to use a web browser, it slows my progress, and interrupts my ideal workflow. If anyone else has tools they'd like to have included here, or ideas for tools, feel free to propose branches which add them, or send me mail.
I'm not a fan of Python. But I chose to write this tool in it anyway, as I wasn't intending to make a real project out of it. It was just a quick hack to make part of my life much easier, until I can get around to writing something much better and more deeply integrated with the desktop. But the GTK+ bindings, and python-launchpadlib, made it very easy to hack this script up very quickly. I do wish there was a better way to do the authentication though. Opening a browser, and requiring the user to press "Enter" in the console, is an awful experience. But it works, and I only have to do it once...
Frankly, launchpadlib makes it very easy to not have to use the web... and in some cases, makes it better, since the Launchpad web UI doesn't expose all the features that are in the API.


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