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|Art of Casting Analysis, refinement of the cast
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I guess the experiences are different. I'm out here in the middle of nowhere. If I see a human around the marshes, I log in in my "life book."
It's usually consoling to see company so far from help. If he makes noise though, he may become part of the eco system.
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Probably sounds strange, but one of the singular pleasures I've had in flyfishing is teaching casting to newbies, mostly ages 8 thru 14, boys and girls, up to 5 at a time. Lots of fun if you can let go and just sit back and enjoy the whole process.
I try to keep learners joking around to keep them loose and having fun so they willingly follow 'suggestions'. Keep lessons short: two short stints on the lawn, before and after lunch, then down to the river the next day. The water is carefully chosen for clear back cast area, safe water, with lots of little dumb rainbows in it, diverse enough to allow better casters (read that as athletic and good listeners) onto faster water, and slower learners on the slow big pools where I can easily pick out knots, dodge flies, shadow cast with them, and take off fish. Oh yea, and water where no other ff can be bothered, as it is very frustrating to others. Generally, kids are so much easier to teach then adults; women are easier to teach then men (Women aren't expected to perform well, so they leave the ego out and just have fun with it). IMO, keep lessons(2) short, and spaced out so they have time to digest it: they will think about it on their own in between; make it fun. Some newbies get by with one lesson, most need 2 or more. Most courtesy breaches are really about ignorance, but not always. I have had beach fishing wrecked by someone throwing balls for his retriever into the water next to me, then when I sulk to the beach to wait the fool out, they want to chat me up about how much fishing they do! Go figure. A newby can learn from a patient mentor, some fools will never get it. Be patient with newbies on the water, but do tell them politely about breaches of fishing etiquette while explaining how better to fish that section, or while offering them a better fly pattern to use. It will have much more of an impact than an expletive.
Lawn First!
Good morning,
Lawn first is essential! What it offers is "Angling" with out the fish. Allowing the Angler time to associate him / herself with the equipment. But a key thing here is to instill in the student at that time that this is a practice that is life long!
A cast is like a great painting, book, poem, or anything that requires lifelong duty. How many of our seasond readership still get out the equipment in between seasons, when the river is not producing, or just to spend a few with the kids on a cool spring evening after a hectic day at work, throwing some line. I do! A quick trip up to the local middle school field, or just in the front yard, people may look at you funny at first, but most understand "commitment" when they see it!
Practice makes perfect! If we are to become truley good Anglers, and to teach same, then the practice needs to always be there. This is the sign of a well rounded Sportsman.
I had the pleasure of living next door to Skip Morris some years back. He practices on grass. I think if more "Newbies" were given this instruction along with "How to cast", you might see a higher level of "Maturity" on the river when the time comes.
Hope you all are having a great weekend
I think a lot of it depends on whether the pupil is new to fishing or just new to fly fishing.
An experienced fisherman could probably pick up a fly rod for the first time and, with some basic instruction, begin fishing and hopefully catching fish on the fly rod the same day or even the same hour. Of course, if they focus on the fishing rather than the casting then they will probably develop some bad habits and may get frustrated when they wrap the line around themselves or have to play cat's cradle when they are trying to catch fish.
Someone who has seldom casted any type of fishing rod and has little knowledge of fishing would probably be better off getting some casting experience before trying to deal with the "fishing" part, especially if it is a more specialized type of fishing such as fishing in the surf or on the flats or anyplace where they may encounter more experienced fishermen who get upset when a newbie doesn't know "the routine". Of course, if the beginner has a knowledgeable instructor who is teaching him to cast, then the instructor should also spend some time explaining the "fishing" part so that the beginner can learn how to approach a pool or work a river or wade the flats without spooking all the fish or violating the rules of etiquette that are (hopefully) followed by the more knowledgeable anglers. The beginner might not "get it" right away but they will at least have a clue, and as they improve their skills and spend more time on the water they will begin to understand what the instructor was trying to teach them.
p.s. I voted "As many sessions as necessary, then fishing." That could mean fishing on the first day or not, depending on the type of fishing and the skill level of the client.
|The biggest problem facing both experienced and new anglers is the proper timing of the cast. Most people work too hard and don't wait long enough for the rod to load. Once the timing is down the rest is tweeking the cast to get more distance. This my sound a little crazy but take the newbie bluegill fishing. The fish are willing to bite and you learn a lot about playing a fish ect. That's what I do with younger anglers . Once they get a fish on the line they are hooked. FishHawk
i practiced for about four months on grass and ponds before even tying a fly onto my leader. it's a bit different when the fish start to rise or the water's flowing fast and cold, but i think the practice helped. i couldn't (still can't) afford casting lessons, so i took a freebie and the instructors liked my cast except for a small twist in the wrist which i've been watching. practice helps. now i'm back, landlocked from trout, and again practicing. trying to get good at longer, tighter casts so i can hunt reds on the coast.
i was lucky enough to get to fish some not-so-travelled areas in northwest colorado for three months so running into experienced anglers wasn't a big deal for me. if i did get a spot that was crowded, i'd either go elsewhere or wade as softly as possible. if i was alone and tripped and splashed, i only hurt my own chances. doh. sometimes, i think it's best to quietly watch experts fish a hole rather than try to fish the hole yourself if you're a relative newb like me.
|well so far I have only seen me fishing so I don't think I have upset anyone, however a dude drove by and honked excesivly at me, possibly a fellow angler from the great pnw.
sounds familiar.................
Here in the PNW I've had new fly fishers tromp right in the water below me, walk and splash and fast as they can out to waist deep, and scare every steelhead that was lying there out of the run all because they can't cast more the 45' and think that they have to be waist deep to "get to the fish". This is very maddening because in another 40' of cast and step (as steelhead and atlantic salmon fishers cover the water) I would have been covering that water and the steelhead that used to be in it. Even more maddening is the attitude of the dude who low-holed and scared the fish in this manner when he is informed of his breach of stream etique and why he should have either started above those ahead of him in the run or waited his turn to avoid scaring the fish. The all-too-often response from the new guy is "this is a free country, the water belongs to everyone, you are a snob, etc.".
Another all to often scenario here in the PNW is the new fly fisher jumps in the water 150' below you and then parks there instead of moving downstream a step or two after a 2-3 casts. This causes the experienced fishers to move down in the step and cast, step and cast that is the most efficient manner to fish a steelhead run until he now has his casts running the risk of foul-hooking the new guys line or fly. Upon being asked if he would move down a bit, the new guy far too often ignores the request or says the same inane "the water is free, this is a free country, I'm just out for a day's fishing and don't appreciate your hasseling me, etc." Then to add insult to injury, when you move downstream of the new dude, he gets all huffy and angry that you are fishing "his water" despite the fact that he hasn't moved in the 45 minutes he has been fishing. And all too often as you draw near him from above, he starts giving you the look and many time says something about you crowding him and that you should go elsewhere if you can't respect another angler's "fishing spot".
Also, many time the new fly fisher will wade out to where you are casting, instead of waiting until you are finished fishing through the run, just to "chat" and visit. This is also very maddening since he almost invariably stands in the way of back casts or D Loops, chatters along while you are trying to concentrate on your fly's progress and how it is fishing, and in general just gets in the way. If the new guy would simply wait until the experienced fisher is finished fishing through the run before he starts talking to him, the experienced fisher would visit and be pleasant. However, when the new guy wades out and disturbs the experienced fisher, the experienced guy is less than happy, gets a little peeved at the inconsiderate actions of the new guy, and wants to get rid of him as soon as possible.
Likewise on a public spring creek when a new guy walks right up to the stream and scares every trout in the pool that the experienced fisher just spent 20 minutes sneaking up to the water's edge to cast to the fish without spooking them. Or the new guy slaps the water from the other bank with his casts and scares the fish that the experienced fisher has been working to catch for the last 15 minutes.
This is the stuff that OC was talking about. And the only way the new fly fisher learns how to do these things with consideration and fish and cast with skill, is by starting on easier to catch fish like sunfish and bluegills before he goes for steelhead or spring creek trout. Even the world's greatest guide cannot teach a newcomer how to cast 80' on steeelhead river in one day, nor can a great guide teach a newcomer how to make very gentle casts of 50' on a spring creek in one day.
F-N-G (friggin-New-Guys)
they cant or dont usually catch much of any thing but they will low-hole you and look right at you and waive bacause every thing is friggin new even his simms goretex, matching vest and faggy hat. but over the years of fishing crowded california and oregon waters ive found that you can use them to your advantage by keeping them below you and close enough that your swing can get past them into the water you want to fish by timing.they wont get it until theres a three foot long rocket taking off right in front of them and then its all you my man and they are none the wiser they just think its cool to see a fish. some guys,being new are easily persuaded to move on some arent . its all about perception,if your demeanor is kind,warm and friendly on the outside then use your cunning and calculate a strategy to get around the obsticle to acomplish your goal. may sound selfish but i'm thinking about steelhead not about the other guy.
never give a sucker an even break.
but if the guide hes with is worth his salt all of that wont happen. so all you F-N-Gs out there dont be afraid. get out there and make your mistakes and dont forget the most important part ,HAVE FUN!!!!!!!
The water's free
I'm relatively new to fly fishing and may not understand the protocol and etiquette that goes with it, but the idea of a beginner "getting in the way" of the experienced doesn't make sense, and may even ring of snobbery.
It all becomes balanced out when a professional beach caster gets to my favorite hole on the surf before I do. I should have gotten there faster. I can't fish at his level but he's still in my way. If a guide wants to eat, he has to get clients. They pay, they play. If they get to a favorite hole first, alarm clock adjustments are in order.
Get the rod, go to the water and cast to to your hearts delight. If you stink and can handle the embarrassment, more power to you. You'll either learn or go get womeone to help you.
The water is free. (Mostly.) I'm going to use it no matter how hard they laugh at me. When I'm finished, it's your turn.
I like the collar idea also. But in my perfect world everyone who fly fishes would have a collar on but me. And not surprising I would have the magic button.
Seriously though I wish beginers would start out slow. Lawn is great to practise after dinner and then playing around on lakes for sun fish and the likes. By biggest concern in todays world is that folks want to fish for the most difficult of fish right off the bat, stripers on the flats, Tarpon, permitt, spring creek trout and NW steelhead. To me that's like saying I want to learn to play baseball and going up against Roger Clemens 1st time at bat. Have a feeling that on the great Salmon rivers of Europe not too many newbies just step in and fish a beat. Can imagine they are told quickly that they are not so welcome. I remember it was that way when I was young on many of the great eastern trout streams, you worked your way up to them in skill level, you walked softly and learned the ways of those that came before you. I know in the USA anyone can fish for anything just about, be he beginner or not but I got to say I feel loathing at times to see beginners just stepping to the batters box to face a 100 MPH fastballer. I also feel sorry for him because it can not be as enjoyable as catching sunfish and learning all that goes along with casting, like observation, fly tying, building leaders and the likes.
I have no problems with guides on rivers or flats who's clients are good fishermen and do not have to be hand held. But boy it can be frustating to those who have worked there way up in their fishing ability to have other not so worthy plugging up runs and flats alike. I would like to see guides or teachers take their clients or at least try to convince their clients to fish for fish that are more to their level because the client will get far more out of it and his skill level will not only increase but he will understand more of what he is doing.
|I am a total newb, I got a lawn session then practiced on my own on the lawn and two weeks later I was hacking it up on Davis lake, I think practice practice practice before you waste your buddys day on a fishing trip. might sound silly but watching a vid on some one casting at sexyloops really helped me, now I only slap the water with the fly instead of smacking my fly with my pole and making spectacular knots.
|I find that nothing can replace the resistance of the water. Whether snapping off a roll cast or setting up the back cast with tension of the water flexing the rod as you lift line from the water that resistance is extremely important. The lawn is OK but having your line in the water is what the goal ultimately is and without it even the most basic nuances of casting are compromised.
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Burnt Goose is goose nashua (flank) feathers that have been burned with a weak bleach and water solution to remove some of the feather web. Most of the so-called burnt goose that is available commercially has not been burnt by the bleach and water. It is dyed white goose nashua (flank) feathers and it is left to the tyer to bleach them to make them useful.
Burnt goose makes a very nice spey feather; however, keep in mind that the stem of the goose feather is rather thick and as such is very prone to splitting as you wind the feather. To make the goose feather supple you have to soak it in water with some hair conditioner added to it. Then when dry, it remains supple and the stem doesn't split when wound.
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What exactly is Burnt Goose? What is the process of turning a goose feather into the Burnt Goose state? This thread has been very helpful - thanks
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I echo Bill's sentiment. Very interesting and informative.
Thanks for the comprehensive response. Very educational, and appreciated.
I bought some stainless steel pots at a yard/garage sale many years ago to use for dying. Before I picked these up, I used 3 pound coffee cans, which are good for 1 time use. The stainless pots are much better and the dye doesn't react with the stainless either so your colors are much "clearer and vibrant".
Your observations are correct on what are being sold as "spey feathers" by most suppliers. They are burnt goose. And you already know why I don't like burnt goose. Coche feathers (rooster tail) is what the original spey feather was (this information can be found in Knox's "Autumns on the Spey", and Kelson's "Salmon Fly") and they are far superior to burnt goose.
You are right about being able to get a fairly acceptable dun coloration with RIT black in either a weak dye bath or with cooler than normal temperature dye bath (as you indicate you have done); however, it has a hint of purple in the coloration that I find unacceptable. The Fly Dye dark dun does not have the purple overtone present with the RIT. With the Fly Dye, you get a good, bright, dark blue dun (the same color as Bleu-eared Pheasant or natural Heron) with ease. And the cost difference between a package or bottle of RIT and an once of Fly Dye is only a couple of dollars.
Keep in mind that RIT dye is not composed of the same dye stuffs as good quality acid dyes. RIT dyes are "shop" dyes that are formulated to work on fabrics, most of which do not react favorably with acid dyes because they are commprised of celulose or a nylon derivitive. Thus you have to use half a package to get a weak dye bath, or use more time in the dye bath, or more heat. And the colors obtained with RIT are inconsistent unless the time in the dye bath is kept to within 1 minute each time.
Quality acid dyes, like Fly Dye or Jacquard) are true acid dyes that were formulated for use with animal fibers, not celulose; thus, they require only 1/4 teaspoon of dye in a dye bath to dye several onces of material. And they are not sensitive to time in the dye bath. In fact, acid dyes should be dyed to exhaustion of the dye (meaning that there is little or no dye left in the bath-the water is either clear or nearly so) and lighter shades are simply a matter of using smaller amounts of dye in the dye bath. Acid dyes are also far more colorfast than RIT because the bond with the substrate molecules (animal fur or feather) extremely well.
After having used a good acid dye for the first time some 22 years ago, I have not used RIT since except for one special purpose: that is for dying white ringneck neck feathers yellow orange prior to overdying the tips scarlet for Indian Crow substitutes. This is done by using RIT golden yellow in a strong dye bath (1 complete package for 1/8 once of feathers) and left in the dye bath until the feathers have started to turn a decided orange hue. Then the feathers are removed from the dye bath, rinsed and after the water runs clear, dipped (tips only) in a strong scarlet dye bath for 10 to 30 seconds each feather, then the feathers are given a final rinse and placed on newspaper to dry.
The quality acid dyes do the job faster, have consistent colors, are easier to use, are colorfast, and can be mixed together for different shades without worrying about the resultant shade being "off" or "weird". RIT is really a very inferior dyestuff to use for dying feathers or fur.
Yes, I know that a very well-known tyer wrote and had publised a book (a book I have in my library only because I bought it sight unseen and I was expecting better information-in other words, I would not have bought the book if I had seen it first) on using RIT for dying fly tying material. I wish he wouldn't have because it has served to muddy the waters with having solid information on the dying process interspersed with his reliance on RIT. Even A.K mentions a preference for Veniard dyes (which are acid dyes but they suffer from most of the colors being a mixture of different dyes thus most of them are very time and amout sensitive), which he calls super powerful dyes because so little is needed to get great colors.
Although I do like and use Veniards hot orange, hot pink, and kingfisher blue-the best kingfisher blue available IMO); but that the Veniards dye is not easy for him to find. It is not available at the local grocery, K-Mart, or Wal-Mart store like RIT.
Dying pots
Do you guys have dedicated pots to do your dying in? I can only imagine the hell that would break loose if our wives ( if we had wives) found us using the good cook ware to dye feathers.
I deferred for awhile to flytyer's greater experience and fly tying skill. But, being contrary, and being a decent fly tyer myself, I had to test out the Rit on the Schlappen...
I was quite happy with the results. I just used Black Rit, with medium-hot water, left it in for quite awhile--I'll admit I'm not scientific about this--and fixed it with a bit of white vinegar at the end. I obtained a dark, attractive dun. You can get it darker or lighter, obviously, by adjusting the time in the dye bath.
So, while I believe based on fly tyer's suggestion that you could get a nicer color with Fly Dye's Dark Dun, I stand by my earlier opinion. You might be totally satisfied using Rit black.
Fly Tyer
I had a question for you. Is the "spey feathers" they have out there (like Deke Meyer) burned goose. I had used some before I got a line on BEP. But was curious what feathers they were. Then, in one of my catalogs, they had "burnt goose spey feathers" and look identicle to the Deke Meyer and other misc companies out there selling these "spey feathers". One in the same??? Just curious.
Rit will not get you the nice dark, blue dun you are looking for. And as you have already found out, no suppliers are providing Schlappen with the dark blue dun coloration. To get the proper color, you will have go dye white schlappen with Fly Dye's Dark Dun dye. Use vinegar in the dye bath to set the dye, and use 1/4 teaspoon of the Fly Dye dark dun dye. Heat the dye bath to about 160 degrees (about the time you start seeing some steam come off the dye bath but before it starts to form bubbles). Put the white schlappen in the dye bath and let it stay in it for about 15 to 20 minutes. Then dump it into a strainer and rinse with luke-warm water until the water runs clear. Set aside the dyed schlappen to dry and you will have a beautiful dark blue dun spey hackle.
Fly Dye is available directly from the manufacturer and the web address of the company can be found in fly fishing or fly tying magazines. An once of the dye sells for about $7.00 and an once will dye about 2 pounds of schlappen.
dying schlappen
I always end up burning the stuff to get rid of some web/cling. That fades the dyed color
If you plan to do some home dying, it might pay to burn the feathers first, & then dye.
Just my $0.02
Without getting into the subject of when to use very soft materials like schlappen...
Plain old Rit black, by itself, will get you very close to what you want. Leave it in the dye until you get the darkness you desire.
Years ago I read a piece by a famous fly tier--perhaps Polly Rosborough?--that to get a true black with Rit you needed to add some Rit brown to the black. It's true. With plain Rit black you get a bluish cast--a pretty nice dun.
I haven't tried dying schlappen, but this approach has worked very well with dry fly hackle.
The last two times I went to order BEP the supplier was out - no back orders. BEP must be under pressure for some reason. I like the Mallard solution but the whole problem raises the question of whether getting into dying feathers is a reasonable alternative. I don't know of anyone that does it routinely but I have heard it extolled as the entry way to a whole new world of tying.
The other thing that I have experimented with a little bit of success is steaming feathers for winding spey style patterns. Probably a cheap alternative to some other approaches but I haven't used the flies tied extensively - no feedback on durability.
I am of the non-schlappen spey hackle camp. It's too webby and 'sticky' for my tastes. Blue eared pheasant is naturally a dun-nish color and makes a very close approximation of the real thing. It also comes dyed in various colors. Another hackle I like is the burnt goose, which has a thick stem and brittle barbs but for some reason I've caught a lot of steelhead on flies tied with these feathers. You have to pick thru them to select them on the supple side with a thinner stem. These come in a broad range of colors.
For smaller spey flies, I use dyed mallard flank feathers stripped on one side. They also come in a wide range of colors, are cheap, and work fantastic. In fact of all the speys I fish the most effective have been small summer speys hackled with dyed mallard - the BEP is too large for these little swingers. I like the black, purple, woodduck, olive, and sedge orange colors - mallard is inexpensive and dyed in tons of colors.
BEP is best but has a very high price tag and is harder to find in the proper sizes and colors.
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Does anyone know a source for schlappen dyed to resemble blue heron color? dark dun with a touch of blue..
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This project engages students in the science and engineering processes used by NASA astrobiologists as they explore our Solar System and try to answer the compelling question, "Are we Alone?" Students will identify science mission goals and select... (View More) an astrobiologically-significant target of interest: Mars, Europa, Enceladus or Titan. Students will then design their mission to this target in search of their chosen biosignature(s). Students will encounter the same considerations and challenges facing NASA scientists and engineers as they search for life in our Solar System. Students will need to balance the return of their science data with engineering limitations such as power, mass and budget. Risk factors play a role and will add to the excitement in this interactive science and engineering activity. Astrobiobound! will help students see how science and systems engineering are integrated to achieve a focused scientific goal. Includes an alignment document for Next Generation Science Standards (NGSS) and Common Core State Standards. (View Less)
Users explore data, using My World GIS, that characterize the dynamic Greenland Ice Sheet. By examining photographs, map views, and tabular data, users gain an understanding of how and why scientists are monitoring the ice sheet and what they are... (View More) finding. Users explore map layers that represent ice sheet thickness, weather station locations, and annual melt extents of the ice sheet. They learn about the working conditions that Arctic scientists must endure to collect their data, and how sensors on satellites are used to gather information from an area as large as Greenland. Finally, users learn about scientists' methods for measuring ice flowing downhill from Greenland, and examine that data to learn how fast the ice is moving. This chapter is part of the Earth Exploration Toolbook, which provides teachers and/or students with direct practice for using scientific tools to analyze Earth science data. Students should begin on the Case Study page. (View Less)
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Dead Island 2 Steam page removed, resurrecting cancellation talk
The Steam store page for Dead Island 2 has vanished.
Yager Development headlines
5v5 spaceship shooter Dreadnought closed beta to start this week
Dreadnought goes into closed beta tomorrow.
Get to know the ships of Dreadnought
Spec Ops: The Line (and erstwhile Dead Island 2) developer Yager is making a game about blowing up huge spaceships. What's not to like?
Yager Productions files for insolvency over Dead Island 2 being pulled from studio
Yager Development is in the process of insolvency proceedings due to the cancellation of Dead Island 2. The company said this will only affect the Yager Productions GMBH sub-division of the company which was working on the title.
Dead Island 2: Yager exits zombie sequel [UPDATE]
Dead Island 2 publisher Deep Silver has made a surprising announcement.
Dreadnought screens are filled with lasers and explosions
Dreadnought just keeps looking better and better every time we see it.
Huge ships blow each other up in ten minutes of Dreadnought footage
Dreadnought is one of those games that you dream up one night in a fever and then 20 years later someone makes it real. Let's stare at it in rapt anticipation.
Dead Island 2 beta arrives 30 days early on PS4
Dead Island 2 will have a beta sometime next year, and now we know that it will be a PlayStation 4 exclusive for 30 days.
Let Spec Ops dev Yager explain its new spaceship combat game, Dreadnought
Dreadnought has the player captaining huge ships in multiplayer battles. Find out how it all works in the commentated video below.
Spec Ops: The Line dev will reveal its new game at E3
Yager Development, the development studio behind Spec Ops: The Line, will be at E3 next week showing off its new game.
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Mary Dobbins, MD ...
... joined the faculty at Southern Illinois University School of Medicine as an assistant professor in psychiatry and division chief of child psychiatry, specializing in child psychiatry. She recently completed a psychiatry residency at SIU (2006) and a three-year fellowship in child and adolescent psychiatry at the University of Iowa College of Medicine in Iowa City (2004), where she was also a visiting faculty member in pediatrics.
Previously, Dobbins was in private practice in Quincy (1998-2001) and served as director of the Springfield Regional Center for Breastfeeding Medicine and medical director of the breastfeeding management clinic at St. John's Hospital in Springfield (1993-2001). She was on the medical school's faculty as assistant professor of pediatrics and coordinator of newborn services (1993-98). While in private pediatrics practice in Springfield, she was an SIU volunteer pediatric faculty member (1987-93).
Dobbins was a visiting faculty member at Wellstart International at the University of California in San Diego, while completing postgraduate work in breastfeeding medicine (1993-95). She completed a pediatrics residency at the University of Missouri in Columbia (1987) and earned her medical degree from SIU (1984).
Dobbins is board certified in pediatrics and board eligible in general psychiatry and child and adolescent psychiatry. She is a fellow of the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry and American Psychiatric Association. She also is a fellow of the American Academy of Pediatrics and Academy of Breastfeeding Medicine, serving on national committees for both organizations. She is a past president of the Illinois Downstate Pediatric Society. In addition to her ongoing research on consultation services for primary care physicians, Dobbins is developing the SIU telepsychiatry program.


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Rocky Mountain National Park > Hallett Peak > Climber's Log
Hallett Peak Climber's Log
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|Route Climbed: Tyndall Glacier Date Climbed: September 1997
|Loved it!
|Posted Aug 30, 2005 8:38 am
|Route Climbed: Flattop Date Climbed: July 25, 2005
|Hiked to summit with my dad.
|Posted Aug 10, 2005 3:42 pm
|Route Climbed: Love to Better Than Love Date Climbed: August 7, 2005
|Holy cow, what a climb.
Being more of a mountaineer than a hard core rock climber, this this was great! Challenging, exposed, BIG, alpine... WOW. Did I mention that this is a BIG wall...
What a day.
5:30AM to 4:30PM car-to-car.
|Posted Aug 9, 2005 4:35 pm
|Route Climbed: Flattop Trail Date Climbed: Tuesday July 19, 2005
|Outstanding views in all directions. Longs dominates with a perfect view of the keyboard of the winds. Neversummer and Mummy ranges look close enough to touch, the Gores and even Rabbit Ears distant on the horizon.
|Posted Jul 19, 2005 11:52 pm
|Route Climbed: Andrews Glacier Date Climbed: July 10, 2005
|I had planned on doing Otis, but decided to continue to Hallett instead. What a beautiful day! I'll definetly be back. The Park was a complete zoo by the time I made my descent at around 11am.
|Posted Jul 10, 2005 5:42 pm
|Foxy Long Bottoms
|Route Climbed: The Great Dihedral Date Climbed: 8/04
|Completed the route but did not continue to the summit via another route. Clouds forming above caused us to make the decision to descend, which was a good one. At the start of rap # 1, we were drenched. Storms move in real fast up there! Great climb regardless.
|Posted Jul 5, 2005 10:53 am
|Route Climbed: Standard route via Flattop (from Bear Lake) Date Climbed: January 2004
|Beautiful but extremely windy!!!
|Posted Jun 30, 2005 11:24 am
|Roam Around
|Route Climbed: Bear Lake TH - Flattop Trail Date Climbed: January 30, 2005
|climbed in conjunction with Flattop.
|Posted Jun 20, 2005 9:12 am
|Route Climbed: Bear Lake trailhead, descent via Andrews Glacier Date Climbed: Summer 03
|Summited over Flattop first, then Hallet Peak, Otis, & half of Taylor (had to get someone in our group back for work:-(
My friends decided to "stay in the meadow by flattop and smell the flowers," so I RAN up Hallet Peak and Otis while they "skirted" by it.... oops, while I was boulder hopping on the way back down, one moved and I did a head first somersault down the mountain... good thing my knee crashed into a rock to prevent me going any further. Don't worry, a little bruise won't hurt me on this on... now a steeper mountain would have been treacherous! Good views from the top- enjoy!
|Posted Jun 11, 2005 9:44 pm
|Route Climbed: Better Than Love Route & From Flattop Mtn. Date Climbed: April 24, 2005
|I climbed the better than love route in the summer of 2001, but didn't summit. I guess after (8) pitches of rock it didn't seem very important! I finally stood on top 4/24/05 with Jason after an amazing Dragon's Tail Couloir climb!!
|Posted Apr 24, 2005 6:22 pm
|Route Climbed: via Flattop Date Climbed: August 25, 2004
|Endured 70mph gusts!!
|Posted Apr 16, 2005 7:18 pm
|Route Climbed: Bear Lake Approach Date Climbed: 04/23/2004
|This was a windy day but luckily for us snowpack was low enough to avoid avalanche danger although a few nasty cornices existed
|Posted Mar 20, 2005 8:21 pm
|Route Climbed: Flattop Date Climbed: 8.30.04
|Beautiful hike today with some footprints in the snow.........Got some good shots of Longs Peak!
|Posted Aug 30, 2004 9:17 pm
|Route Climbed: Flattop Mountain Trail Date Climbed: August 6, 2004
|Great moderate day hike! Start early as everyone who started later than we did got hailed on big time at 2pm. We barely made it onto the shuttle in time! The last 400 foot scramble to the summit is great training for Longs Peak, and the view from the top is wonderful. The gentle western slopes of the Continental Divide look surreal from this vantage point.
|Posted Aug 30, 2004 1:43 am
|Route Climbed: Flattop Mountain Date Climbed: June 28, 2004
|Great hike. Spectacular view of Longs!
|Posted Jun 30, 2004 10:48 am
|Route Climbed: Via Flat top Date Climbed: 9/03
|Climbed from flat top.
|Posted Apr 14, 2004 6:43 pm
|Route Climbed: Standard Route from Flattop Date Climbed: July 2002
|Part of 4-day Divide traverse. Tons of fun, highly recommend a similar trip! Beautiful summer day in the park.
|Posted Mar 22, 2004 9:54 pm
|Route Climbed: standard Date Climbed: 19 january 2004
|I did this mountain along with Flattop and ptarmigan point. This was a fairly easy accent except for the relentless winds that I experienced at the top (35 mph). It was kind of cool to see the clouds wizzing by while I sat back for a break at the summit. I couldnt really find a actual trail and there was frost on all the rocks, making them quite slippery. Other than that it was a enjoyable climb.
|Posted Jan 19, 2004 5:34 pm
|Route Climbed: Via Flattop Mountain Trail Date Climbed: 2001, 2002
|A classic in 'The Big Park' as my friend Steve calls Rocky Mountain National Park. Outstanding views of Longs Peak and good access to Otis Peak just to the south.
|Posted Nov 15, 2003 5:04 pm
|Route Climbed: Tyndall Glacier & variations, Flattop Mtn trail Date Climbed: A dozen times or so, 1990-present, all seasons
|A great peak any time of year. Can be turned into a longer circular trip by ascending from the north and descending via Andrews Glacier (bring an axe if late in the season). My wife and I once arrived on the summit at 6:00 PM on a July 21 (her birthday). We had left Bear Lake at 1:00 PM with no destination in mind. One of those crystal clear days when there's no place better than Colorado!
|Posted Oct 20, 2003 10:38 pm


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Give Cancer the Bird With Father's Day Gift Ideas
By Nick Brown
I know you think I'm going to tell you again about how I gave my dad a shingle with a hole drilled in it for Father's Day, how he scornfully cast it aside and I was ashamed. No, I won't tell you that one.
Instead, let me tell you about a Father's Day story the Alibi originally had planned for you. They were going to print a two-page spread of the human body with little arrows (or dustpans, or rolling pins) pointing to the various places where fathers should worry about getting cancer, delivered with wry and clinical authority. Had it been a joke and had someone been tickling me, I might have swallowed the mint, but it was honestly and earnestly conceived of that deadly, prodding maternal glee fathers have endured since the smilodon days.
"You're not going to wear that rotten old loincloth to the Smilodon Festival, are you?"
Whatever. It's Father's Day, and it should feel like a frat party. For those of you who imagine fathers like to think about cancer, let me suggest some other things fathers might like to think about, or receive as gifts.
Switchblades. Fathers like weapons, and switchblades are wicked but also illegal and hard to find. What you need to know is that "spring assisted" knives are legal, easy to find and almost as cool as switchblades. Imagine the powerful snap as your dad pops out his razor-sharp poniard and opens a totally sweet credit card offer, or maybe lops off a chunk of cheddar cheese at supper. Mom will swoon and admire him once again.
Shirts with numbers on them. I don't know about you, but from age 5 through 8, I refused to wear any shirt that didn't have a big number on the front, like I was a tiny pro football player. Sometimes I'd even stuff toilet paper in the shoulders so it would look like I was wearing shoulder pads, and get up at five in the morning like Joe Namath. Now, sadly, I have exactly zero shirts with numbers on them and I no longer give one tit about sports, but I think it's an excellent fashion concept that's ripe for revisiting in middle age. It's even better if the shirt doesn't reference any sports team that actually exists in the world. "Hey ding-dong, what team has brown and green colors?" "Suck it. It's a new team for cool people."
Fireworks. Fathers like explosions that are bigger than sparklers. Those big Fourth of July fireworks are actually not too expensive if you can find them, though they're also illegal within the city limits. Still, fathers like mildly illegal things, and fireworks are a great way to celebrate the first real rainfall in Stucker knows how long. Somebody watch for cops.
Monster movies. I like to watch people die horribly at the hands of otherworldly creatures. Some guys like football movies.
Old coins. I don't care who you are, father or not: A silver dollar from the 1800s is a baba's gift, and you can get them for around $20. They're probably worth about $15, and that's why people get into the antique coin business. Later on, you can steal back your dad's coin and buy cigarettes.
Comic books. Comic book stores often sell big bundles of mystery grab bag comics for cheap; most of the comics suck, but at least there are a bunch of them. Give your father the gift of hoping they don't all suck.
Arrowheads, fossils. Again, if you know a father who doesn't own a genuine trilobite fossil, he needs one. Arrowheads are cool, too, but don't bother with the crappy sweatshop knockoffs they sell in a basket at the truck stop. You need the real McCoy. Don't bother with those little black fossilized shark teeth, either. All dads have seen those, and they lost their allure like 30 years ago.
Taxidermy. Fathers like dead animals adorning their abodes. A nice wall-mounted antelope head can set you back plenty unless you find it at a yard sale. Most moms don't like dead creatures in the home, but animal skulls are a nice compromise and readily affordable. Let your father celebrate the grotesque beauty of nature with a bleached beaver skull.
CDs, ukuleles, harmonicas and distortion pedals. How about letting your father make a joyous sound unto the Lord with some horrible music nobody else likes? Let him honk honk honk around your hideous house of blues for a day, pretending he's a ridiculous asshole musician. Or get him a CD of somebody else doing it. Sunglasses not included, Mr. Joel.
Lava lamps. Statistics show that your dad never owned a lava lamp but always thought they were cool. They're not, really, but that's his problem. Or could be.
Firearms. Fathers like guns. If your father has actual guns, leave it alone. If he doesn't, I suggest that a nice BB gun or air soft gun would be fun for him. He can shoot stuff, and it will fall over. He will feel powerful, if only for a fleeting moment.
Survival books. In the bathroom, books are the natural painkillers that help take a father's mind off the grunting, sweating reality of his own disgusting body. I think survival books are fun. It's like you're in a Patrick Swayze movie about survival stuff.
Weird booze. Dad's going to buy his regular beer and bourbon along with your cornflakes, so gifting his regular brand is about as much fun as a gallon of gas. However, he probably wonders if that grape-flavored bourbon is any good. It's not, but you could make that his problem and wash your hands of it.
Spy gear. Turn your father into a god by allowing him to see around corners, open locked doors and hear bitchy conversations from a mile away. They make stuff like that. I don't know if any of it works.
Practical jokes. Fake vomit's always fun. Well, almost always. Do they make fake tampons? "Dude, get that tampon out of my ... oh, I get it. It's one of those fake tampons from the magic shop."
Snack foods. Mom makes dad feel guilty about eating, so he feels awful every time he throws a bag of chips into the shopping cart and lies about how it's for the kids. Give your dad a day off with a giant container of something that will turn him into the fat piece of shit his doctor told him he would be. Stupid doctor, delicious is for dad. Can't you just see mom standing in the den, arms crossed, shaking her head?
Funny things. Some fathers have a great sense of humor; others only laugh at sex jokes. There's nothing funny about a father getting a book that's supposed to be funny but isn't. Until he thinks about how the person who gave it to him thought he'd think it was funny. Then it becomes really funny, but in an ancillary sort of way.
Coupons. If you're on a limited budget, you can always make tickets that promise your services at some point in the future. For example: "This ticket good for one 'I turn into a bird before your very eyes and fly around the room.' " It's just so sad when you have to tell your father that his coupon has expired.
You may now return to your regular thoughts of cancer.
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Alternate name: White Goldenrod
Family: Asteraceae, Aster view all from this family
Description An elongated spike of short-stalked flower heads with white to yellowish-white rays surrounding a yellow central disk atop a hairy, grayish stem.
Habit: native perennial herb; erect stem, usually single, hairy overall
Height: 6-40 in (15-100 cm)
Leaf: at base, elliptical, hairy above and below, shallowly toothed, with a winged stalk, 1-8 in (35-210 mm) long, .5-2 in (15-50 mm) wide; becoming much smaller, narrower, stalkless above.
Flower: small button, white to cream to pale yellow, 1/4 in (6 mm) wide; in a terminal spike, 10 in (25 cm) long.
Fruit: dry seed, .125 in (3 mm) long.
Flower July to October.
Habitat Sandy and clay soils, poor soils, dry open woods and clearings, rocky slopes, roadsides, disturbed sites; to 3300 ft (1000 m).
Range Manitoba east to Nova Scotia, south to Georgia, west to Louisiana, and north to Missouri, Illinois and Wisconsin.
Discussion Also known as: white goldenrod. This is the only Solidago with white rays in the East. Hairy Goldenrod (S. hispida) has yellow rays; it is found from New England south to Georgia, west to Arkansas, and north to Illinois and Minnesota.


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