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Electric-powered wheels drive sustainability point home
Posted October 7, 2009; 12:14 p.m.
Several new sets of wheels — powered by electricity — are hitting Princeton's streets. The University has purchased six electric vehicles to replace gas-powered trucks and vans as part of its sustainability efforts.
The two-passenger vehicles, which are similar to small pickup trucks, are powered entirely by electricity, so they produce no carbon emissions. Known as "neighborhood electric vehicles," they travel at a maximum speed of 25 mph.
"Electric cars are much more efficient. They use less energy to travel the same amount of miles as a gas-powered vehicle," said Roger Demareski, the assistant vice president for facilities for plant, who oversees the pilot program.
The University's new "neighborhood electric vehicles" provide a cost-effective, sustainable mode of transportation for travel to all parts of campus. (Photo: Denise Applewhite)
The vehicles, purchased from e-ride Industries, are plugged into 220-volt outlets at night. Charging in the evening during nonpeak times is more cost effective and provides access to a greater amount of energy derived from nuclear sources, which is better for the environment than electricity produced from coal and gas, according to Demareski. The vehicles can travel 55 miles on a single charge.
The electric shop, heating, ventilation and air conditioning shop, plumbing shop and control shop, which oversees the systems that control heating and cooling, each have one vehicle. Building Services and the Office of Communications also purchased one vehicle each.
To enable the vehicles to travel to every area of the campus, Kristin Appelget, director of community and regional affairs, worked with Princeton Borough, Princeton Township and West Windsor Township to pass ordinances permitting the vehicles to go on roads with speed limits of up to 35 mph. The change from the previous ordinance, which only allowed electric vehicles to travel on roads with speed limits of up to 25 mph, permits travel on Alexander and Washington roads and portions of Route 206.
The pilot program is tracking how many miles the vehicles travel a day and how much energy they use. A report at the end of the academic year will compare that data with figures for gas-powered vehicles to track the electric vehicles' effectiveness at reducing energy use.
The University's maintenance fleet currently has 200 gas and diesel vehicles. Demareski said if the pilot program is successful he anticipates increasing the number of electric vehicles in the fleet as part of the department's annual vehicle replacement program.
Another pilot project regarding sustainability and energy use will be launched in the spring. The University will install light-emitting diode (LED) outdoor lighting, which uses much less energy than traditional lights, in parking lot 23 at the south end of Elm Drive. The University worked with Princeton Borough and Township to change ordinances to permit LED lighting for outdoor use.


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As I have mentioned before, Globe, a new sub-brand of Specialized, has loaned a few Toronto cyclists bicycles try and blog about. Here's my review of the Globe Haul 1 I've been riding around since late October (I know, that's a strange time to start trying out a new bike in Toronto. Luckily, the weather has been great).
My girlfriend, Cat, has also been participating in the Globe Revolution. She's riding a different model, the Live 1, and has just recently posted her review.
Photos and her review can be found on the Globe Revolution site here.

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|Gear Talk - Fly Stuff Spoken Here Sage advice & fresh perspectives
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RE:A question for Captain Ray
Eddie -
I was told that Waterworks come under the umbrella company of Lamson Reels. Can't verify this but my source is usually reliable.
Good Luck on your fishing trip Eddie...... make sure you give us a full report of not only your fishing trip, but the reel performance. Take it up a notch!
RE:A question for Captain Ray
I will be leaving for Argentina on thursday and I hope to put the 3400D to the test(sea run brown trout willing). I'll let you all know how the reel holds up in a few weeks.
I am sure that the reel is made by Water Works, but there is NOTHING in common between the two brands. The sealed drag has a series of carbon fiber discs with washers(not sure what) sandwiched. It was designed with consultation from Jack Charlton, but being the independant kind of guy that he is, he sais that they are nothing like his reels. I think that the stacked washers remind me of a Penn International.
RE:A question for Captain Ray
The fast spool switch is really a factor for striper fishing, steelhead and salmon, etc. It surprises me that the upper echalon reels make it so hard to swap spools. I suppose not everyone has the same need to swap spools - the carribean, dry line seasons on salmon streams, fall greaselining for steelhead, etc.
I can't get by without at least two for Northeast stripers, and for the Spey rod I feel that a spool loaded with hybrid sinktip setup and a full floating Spey head line or DTF line are both the minimum to cover the water thoroughly.
Congrats Mitch!
RE:A question for Captain Ray
Hey all,
I called Sage today and talked to Jerry Siem. He said that the reel was made in Boise, ID. By applying the scientific method I narrowed down the manufacturer (My college degree at work here).
So now I eat crow and tell you that I bought the 3400D (even though it says Sage on the reel).
Thanks to Ray and Juro for the insight.
Flytalk works...maybe too well.
RE:A question for Captain Ray
Ray -
Thanks for the review. I really liked the 3400 when I groped it at the show, Nick (Hunter's) said the 3500 wasn't out yet so you must have got one fresh off the milling machine.
Sounds good, I look forward to seeing it.
RE:A question for Captain Ray
Received the Sage 3500D reel today. Some very nice features that other reels don't have.
Ventilated end cap reduces weight. Extremely light weight. Sealed system of both ball bearings and drag to keep the dirt away from function parts.
Other great features:
Preset drag stops. They are numbered to return easily to drag settings. Large ergonomically knob easy to grab with gloves or cold hands.
Changing spools is awesome. Most reel that don't need tools just snap together. You wonder during a run if the spool will disengage. With these reels, they have a lock nut that you tighten by hand without tools and it stays on the reel. Impossible to ever lose a part. That great news especially when changing spools while wading or on the beach.
The spools are nice and clean too. Since you have a sealed system there is no external grease. Can handle these spools with white glove or put them in your surf back without covering them first.
Next time you see one-check it out.
RE:A question for Captain Ray
I expect an investigation only after I buy a limited production Boston Whaler specifically for fly fishing
After getting a salt rod in the beginning, I got tired of thinking about better equipment. I made the decision that this was going to be a life long passion, so I convinced myself to go with the best and stop upgrading.
I was thinking of the Abel, but the silent out-haul and click in-haul bugs me. Other than that, it think it is a fine reel.
I was initially going to get the Everglades, but I started looking at these sealed drag jobbers that would cut down considerably the amount of clean-up time afterwards. Like dealing with my hair, I would like to just wash and rinse without all of the fluff that my wife does. That's why the Loop was on my short list. I knew about the Sage, but didn't really consider it until I read that you purchased the reel. I looked at the ULA 3.5 at Quaker Lane and didn't like how the spool is removed. You have to pull it out, then slide it by the frame's spool guide bar. Knowing me, I'll put just a little too much force when initially removing the spool and catch the spool on the guide bar and bend the spool.
I already have the M4 and if it wern't for customer service that fell short of my expectations, I wouldn't hesitate to keep it as my primary reel. I guess another alternative is to keep the M4 as the primary and have the SCI ANGLER 7/8 as my back-up. Who knows, I have this big problem of money from selling other rods just burning a hole in my pocket. Maybe I should be smart and save it to help buy stuff like gas, milk, and ground beef over in Hawaii.
BTW, my orders have been changed. I leave for the Virginian Peninsula at the end of April until the middle of June, which I get to come back for a week to pack up our stuff, then head off to the ship in the latter part of June. It all shifted, but still keeps me out of New England waters for the season.
Thanks for the reply and the info Ray.
RE:A question for Captain Ray
Mitch -
Loomis rods and Tibor reels!.....You have a small arsenal of sophisticated weapons at your disposal. Sounds like doomsday for any striper that crosses your wake. How do you like the GLX series rods and Riptide reel so far?
Isn't there any governmental watchdogs that monitor military pay raises? Sounds like your making way too much money to afford all that high end gear.
The 3400D and the 3500D were introduced this year in the 2001 Sage catalog. This is there first venture into larger steelhead/salmon, saltwater reels. Just happen to see them and liked what I saw. An order was placed for one reel. Seen them for the first time at Wilmington and thought they were pretty nifty. I'm a fishing junkie and have many reels.
Cast a Fly Charters offer clients a chance to use many of the top products in the industry before they buy. What better way is there to make a knowledgeable choice. We all have tons of gear at home in retirement.
Usually I go through a set process whenever a need a new item. If you ask a Rep, you will find that they are all bias. Sometimes, they will loan us an item to field test. Other times we simply go to a place like Quaker Lane in North Kingston and demo their stuff. There is a salesperson named Ed B., who's a retired machinist. I swear, he takes every new reel apart piece by piece. Analyses the whole assembly. Even makes his own changes if he buys it.
I was shocked one day when Eddie took apart his brand new Renzetti Master Vise and made changes to it. Called the manufacture about the tolerances and machining. You know he was right. That's the kind of people Mitch, you want to help you choose your gear. Asking on the web like you have helps. If it's a new item though, you might not get user advise.
Buying the Sage Reel was a lark and a deviation from my standard practice. Will let you know by the end of the summer how it worked out.
See that you're interest in the new Loops but don't like the guarantee. What about Abel's or another Tibor (Everglade?)
RE:A question for Captain Ray
Mitch -
I will defer to Ray but the buzz on the street is that Waterworks makes the new Sage reels. I would put my money on that hunch myself. The sealed drag system, although quite different than the Lightspeed / ULA Force drag in design, has the same zero-intertia feel to it.
Hunter's annual new product review states "derived from the Waterworks reels".
Offline discussions with other big retailers would imply same.
A question for Captain Ray
I read that you bought one of the new Sage reels. Why?
I was going to e-mail you privately, but got to thinking that you are a very educated man in fly gear (even though you haven't been an actual guide for 40 years...that one still cracks me up). At any rate, a gear review from you is news everybody could use.
Ray, I'm looking to purchase a new reel for my #8 GLX that you also recommended. I'll be using this rod all over the South Pacific and Texas Gulf when I'm not using my #10 GLX/Riptide combo. I want one that will still be working flawlesly when I come back to Newport in 2005.
One of the other questions is who makes the new Sage reel?
Mitch Albin
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Well, cscope's interfaces are coming along fine so far. The initial interfaces will be working but bare bones with much room for improvement, just like the backend. Fair enough... hopefully there will be much, fun and most importantly valuable hacking to be done.
The curses interface is working... just need to clean it a bit and such, but it's at a usable point. Stuff like color, handling SIGWINCH, exactly how and what I want displayed, and general bugfixing (including portability) is what's left here.
The gtk interface is starting to come together. Again, some beautification, features like coloring, etc. will all be doable.
I should hopefully have both in place for that initial release. I also intend for the two to use the same code right up to the interface code with two separate binaries. Just having something working is my initial goal, and meeting that is not too far out of reach...


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The seventh annual Information Technology Fair will take place on Thursday, March 16, from 10 a.m. to 4 p.m. in McDonnell Hall. The fair offers presentations and demonstrations of information technology resources for administration, research, instruction, and more. For information, see www.princeton.edu/fair


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Former hockey coach honors late wife with tournament
Players remember Becky Tempel as 'greatest hockey mom ever'
MADISON, Wis. - Next week, 16 teams from the area will come to Oregon for the fourth annual Alumni Hockey Tournament on May 10-12.
Players ranging in age from 21-55 will bring back the good old day and play hockey for three days.
On the surface it might seem like just another hockey tournament but this year they will be honoring one very special hockey mom.
"Now I have to bring this up. This is a fish I caught in 2009 its a 32-inch walleye," said Gene Tempel.
The 66-year-old likes to tell stories about his family and hockey.
"I have 11 grandkids, eight girls and three boys," Tempel says. A roofer by trade, the father of four spent much of his life as a youth, junior and high school hockey coach.
"I had skated since I was 5 years old in Illinois on the river," Tempel said.
But his true love is his wife, Becky.
"She was 4-foot- 11 and the snow was almost over her head in this photo. Whenever she gave that smile there was something going to happen. She beamed and was just such a happy lady," Tempel said.
But that happiness changed in December 2009 when Becky was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer.
"It's tough to be with that person and have that person look at you and smile and say everything is OK," said Tempel.
After a two-and-a-half-year fight, Tempel's wife of nearly 42 years passed away on May 9, 2012.
"It's a very devastating feeling," Tempel said. "I have many friends but not friends like that. Her only problem is that only one percent of money went to pancreatic cancer."
Ben Cowan played for Tempel when McFarland and Oregon were a co-op back in the late '90s.
"She [Becky] was probably the greatest hockey mom ever," said Cowan.
The past few years Cowan has organized an Alumni Hockey Tournament. This year money raised will go to UW's Carbone Cancer Center in Becky's honor for pancreatic cancer research.
"It's the least we can do. It's a special event for us even more so now because we can do this for Gene and Becky. From now on this is her event and we are going to keep this tradition going," said Cowan.
Tempel hopes to carry out Becky's wish of one day finding a cure.
"She just made life for me so important and unlike the other cancers pancreatic cancer, hasn't had a helper. I will do what I can. I am motivated to do this," said Tempel.
The tournament is May 10th-May 12th at the Oregon Community Sports Arena. If you would like to learn more or donate you can go to the tournament's website here.
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Janae Bingham: Bluffdale, Utah, USA
How long have you been a photographer?
7 years.
What first piqued your interest in photography?
I started out just wanting to take better photos of my own children. My husband gave me my first DSLR for Christmas a few weeks after my last baby was born. I was so excited because I thought that if I had a good camera my pictures would automatically improve. My first photos were terrible, and I was sure the camera was faulty! I quickly learned that I needed to learn to control the camera and not let it control me. Once I discovered that, a whole new world opened up and I was hooked!
What is your photography forte?
People! I especially love to capture candid photos of children.
What tip or trick have you learned along the way that made the biggest difference to the quality of your photos?
Learning to "see" good light. A photo is only as good as the quality of the available light. If possible, move your subject to where the good light is. Almost any subject/object can be amazing with the right light. And the reverse is true. An amazing subject/object can be ruined by poor light.
Where is your favorite place to shoot?
I love to travel and I love to take pictures. Put the two together, and you have something magical! My favorite thing is to go on humanitarian trips to third world countries and to capture that experience. I love to learn the different cultures and share it through my photos.
What do you love about photography?
I love the memories that come back to me when I look at the photos I have taken. Especially those of my family and trips I have been on.
What advice would you give to new photographers?
Shoot in manual and in RAW! I am always amazed at the difference in editing capabilities between a JPEG image and a RAW image. And once you learn to shoot in manual and take control of your camera, you will be amazed at the difference in your photos!
How important is Photoshop in your final image?
I prefer Adobe Lightroom for my post processing. I always do some editing in Lightroom to tweak exposure, color, contrast, etc. The amount depends on the final look that I am going for, but in my opinion, learning photo editing is essential in becoming a better photographer.
What is your favorite lighting?
The natural light that occurs an hour or so before sunset is my favorite. Window light can also be beautiful.
Where is your dream location to shoot?
I have a dream to take pictures of every LDS temple in the world! And at the rate the Church is building temples, that is a pretty lofty dream!
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**** you man! You let ****ing Bennett go to the sea turkies? WTF. All we got is Mike Wallace and swapped linebackers!? What the hell are you doing Ross?
**** this, time to clean house. Trade Tannehill, fire Philbin, and cut Wallace! This is ridiculous, no wonder people call us the LOLphins.
....just kidding. But seriously, people need to quick panicking. Teams aren't built by free agency and it's not like we are superbowl contenders this year, anyway. We are a good 2-3 years away from making it.


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Daniel Ghita Just Flatlined Brice Guidon at Glory 9 NY
- Written by Dave Walsh
Glory 9 has been lacking in huge KO's and when Brice Guidon and Daniel Ghita stepped into the ring following a huge KO by Spong earlier you could feel it in the air, someone was going to go down hard. The announcers for some reason keep talking about Daniel Ghita's leg kicks like it is 2009, but Ghita has become such a complete fighter in the past few years and there is no better proof than in this fight where he cornered Brice Guidon and was hitting a beautiful flurry of punches, changing levels the whole way before a left hook flattened Brice Guidon.
Guidon went down and went down hard, out cold as Ghita gets back on the winning path after two tough losses in a row. The Sniper is back.
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|Ocean Flyfishing for Salmon Perhaps the most under-rated fishery in the world
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RE:Most overlooked fishery out there?
Cool! I can't wait to get the new PNW section LIVE!
> Snowbound...
aRRRggggggHHhhhhhHHH!!!!! I am *so* sick of winter.
All work and no play makes Juro a dull boy. All work and no...
RE:Most overlooked fishery out there?
Juro---- I think those ideas form a great base for a PNW section and would blend well with the exsisting set up on the board.
Sounds like you might be snow bound for a while.
RE:Most overlooked fishery out there?
Great idea!
IN fact we will DEFINITELY be setting up an area that provides more focus on the great fishery in the GREAT PNW region.
Let's talk about what you'd like to see:
a) steelhead, salmon and trout
b) saltwater flyfishing
c) the new Spey Rennaisance and roots in Britain
d) flies and gear
e) new discussion topics
I think you'll like some of the new features we will be introducing soon too!
RE:Most overlooked fishery out there?
The Pacific North West in General
I think it is about time to start blowing our horne a little more about the realtively new form of fishing by fly for the pacific SALMON in the salt as well as in the fresh. This area is starting to become a destination fisherey for pacific salmon on the fly promoted by a number of the high priced resorts in the Northern BC section near the Queen Charlotte and Prince Rupert regions.
The requirement is initially to make ourselves known to each other and to form the neculus of the clave. This would Include all fisheries FRESH ,SALT and we say " THERE ARE NO STRANGERS ON THE WATER"
If Juro is in agreament we could set up a new heading as the PNW SALT & FRESH fISHEREY to collect the information we need to pull this to-gether.
I am currently working on some other avenues to add to what we can bring into the forum.
RE:Most overlooked fishery out there?
Brian casting into an every cast situation mid-day at Sekiu
RE:Most overlooked fishery out there?
Many of us here in Washington wade into the bays and estuaries around Puget Sound and Hood Canal to flyfish for coho (aka silver) salmon and cutthroat trout. Amphipod and baitfish patterns are very productive and a 6-wt setup is sufficient. The resident coho and cutthroat provide a year-round opportunity for the flyfisher. Excitement peaks when the coho's larger cousins return from their ocean journey in the fall. It seems with each trip to the salt, I encounter a growing number of flyfishers "discovering" this fishery. Though it may have been overlooked in the past, increasing river closures is the catalyst causing flyfishers around Puget Sound and Hood Canal to look to the salt and what they're finding is an excellent alternative.
RE:Most overlooked fishery out there?
Juro --- your discription is breathtaking and it was like that. those days we discribed this as bucktaling [ this was my hardware side] The coho are in distress to-day but are making a comeback in our southern waters.
The fisherey that has exploded especially on the fly is for Pink and Chum [Dog] which by the way is agreat fish for smoking.
In the Vancouver area we have some fishing for coho in the salt but they are hatcherey fish. In the northern sections the salmon population has not suffered to the extent of our southern runs but we do have a moratorium on the comercial salmon catch. They will return.
Most overlooked fishery out there?
The whole affair of fishing in the saltchuck for coho and other pacific species has been one of the most overlooked fisheries for it's potential over the last few decades if you ask me. I made my first trip to Sekiu and Neah Bay on the extreme of the Straits of Juan de Fuca in the mid-80's, but it was not until almost 1990 that I made my first trip carrying only fly rods.
While still employing conventional trolling gear for kings and coho, I was shown how to "bucktail" for coho by Ken Morgan, my long-time friend and mentor from Issaquah. Although the halibut wrestling, chinook hunting, and other venues were a blast - the most outrageous part of it all was the surface action for coho salmon which reached into the teens by fall (pounds).
As I transitioned into a stricter flyfishing angle, I was anxious to apply what I had learned to the hunt for coho with only flyrods, and from the first attempt the results were nothing short of phenomenal. In fact, a number of us held our first "Hooknose Conclave" over ten years ago at Sekiu (Clallam Bay, Washington State) using rental boats and fly rods with big bucktails and small candlefish flies and ended up doing something in the order of 20 fish per day (C&R with an occasional fish for the grill) - using fly rods.
Without getting into the details (full story coming up) the tactics include trolling at very fast speeds in between identified packs of feeding coho which are cast to, sometimes even sight cast and led in their boiling feed patterns. The trolling part is not elegant, but because we are fishing a large ocean body it's necessary to locate fish in open water between the obvious riplines, kelp bed edges, and structures where they feed. Essentially it's a time killer that leads to finding fish that are extremely mobile in a giant tidal body that can sweep an idling boat for miles in no time flat. I won't even call that part flyfishing per se, it's simply trolling between active flyfishing opportunities.
The troll is made at incredible speeds - like that used for billfish. The fly should be flopping around in the propwash, literally. The coho can be anywhere and when you don't know where that is coverage is the best medicine. They explode on the fly with a vengeance and the rod should be held tightly or ripped from the hands.
Once you locate a school, it's time for some finesse fishing. I was in a pea soup fog with Dr. Stephen VanSlyke of UW (spectroscopy) when we found ourselves in a bait mass cornered against a kelp bed by cohos none of which were under ten pounds. They were boiling in a pronounced troutlike manner but were put down by the boat. I motored upcurrent in the incoming flood tide and cut the motor completely. We soon found ourselves drifting silently into the edges of the bait ball with big hooknoses boiling in patterns around us. I noticed one ring, then another and landed a sand eel pattern gently about 6 feet in front of the last boil. With three strips a 16 pound hooknose was ripping and tumbling in the air by the boat and the fight that ensued was absolutely epic. The doc and I put a couple of fish in this class into the cooler and headed out to look for others. We ran into Bob Schmelzle and Tony Gades out near the Caves.
They had not found such luck yet in the ominous fog, but it was lifting and we set off to find some action. Along the way I stripped out 60 feet of line and motioned for them to do same. They did, yet could not believe how fast I was moving. They came up alongside to confirm that I was sane, and WHAM! I was onto a nice fish. I yelled over "speed kills - go faster!" coining a highway safety slogan. We all cranked up the motors and were doubling up in no time.
Every opportunity to stop and cast was anxiously taken, yet the speed trolling in between was equally if not more productive. OF course the finesse casting was much more fun. It was a grand time and set the tone for many more such trips, around Bush Point in October, for instance. The flies outfished anything else for fall coho in my boat.
Over time we figured out that you need two rods rigged and ready - one for waking the herring patterns in the motor wash, the other for making accurate presentations to visibly feeding fish.
Another nice surprise was in the evening, some kings and coho had come into the rocky shore of Waddah Island just at the outlet of Neah Bay. The bait was spraying out of the water like you see when tarpon chase pilchard, stripers chase herring, etc. With the boat silently drifting past the shore structure, any reasonable casts made to the shoreline with an erratic strip would be met with a blunt thump and a wild fighting salmon in it's saltwater feeding grounds. Even the kings were eager to grab the fly in these conditions.
Trips made in later years with Brian, my brother, Bill, etc - offers more discoveries about the most under-exploited flyfishing venue out there. Brian and I took turns running the boat past the rocky structures off Slip Point in mid-day sun, hitting coho on every pass. I would run the motor to adjust the angle and distance from the rip forming behind the rock as Brian stood on the fore deck casting to the rip edge; then we'd switch after every fish.
As hinted earlier, I have a photo journal of these discovery trips and will publish a fiull article on this topic soon. I hope to include the many discoveries Brian has made since, and also the insights of Ron Lucas and friends on the BC coast.
Any SW salmon afficionados out there?
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15 days and counting. Two weeks from tomorrow, I will be married. The last time I went through this process (being engaged), it was two years away and I woke up every morning feeling like I needed to puke my guts out.
That was because it was the wrong relationship.
This time is totally different. Each day that passes, I get more excited about the impending ceremony! I'm pretty sure that's a good sign :)
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In the "License Wars" department, I read this article talking about Ransome (Caldera) Love's agreement with Microsoft's "claim that the GPL doesn't make much business sense."
In much the same way that anti-rape laws don't make sense to someone looking for sex at any cost.
I don't mean to trivialize rape by that statement; rather, I mean to exploit the obviousness of that concept to explain what can be esoteric and abstract licensing issues.
Microsoft is absolutely right: the GPL doesn't make business sense-- for Microsoft. They can't steal your code if you release it under the GPL. They have to play as an equal partner. They have to share.
The GPL does make business sense if you're considering how to open up your own "intellectual assets" for public consumption. If you release your sources under a wolf-in-sheep's license like the early Apple license, you'll hear a great hue and cry from "the community". If you release your sources under a Libertarian[1] license like the BSD license, you expose yourself to competitive disadvantage when someone else wraps their extensions around your code and closes up the whole mess.
Under the GPL, when you decide to release your work, you're not doing it "for free". You're doing it for compensation in kind. You're saying "you can stand on my shoulders, as long as I can turn around and stand on your shoulders" (I'm trying to picture that, and it's painfully recursive, but I think you know what I mean).
You are saying, in effect, "I'm giving you a competitive advantage by offering you my work, but I expect that advantage returned by equal access to your improvements on my work."
As with all things, this is a choice. You choose to release your source under the GPL. When I choose to use your GPL'ed sources, I have chosen to share equally with you everything I link to your code; all of my improvements.
Returning to my earlier analogy, that sharing is consensual sex.
On the other hand, when you decide to release your source under terms that don't bind me to share, you open yourself to intellectual gang rape. As an individual, I can take your software, make my own improvements, and close it up. I'm not much of a threat to you that way, because we probably have similar resources at our disposal, and my closed model will likely fall to your open model at the end of the day, because your customers will have the security of knowing they can always pay someone else to continue your work.
On the other hand, if I'm a large corporation, and I'm threatened by you, I can use your more permissive license as leverage against you. I have might. I have numbers. I have a marketing engine that can convince the public that you "were asking for it". And I can take your code, make incompatible modifications, release it in closed form throughout my entire installed base, and give you little chance of fighting back.
Again with the analogy, taking is rape.
In the end, I choose the GPL not because I'm afraid of what individuals might do, but because I've seen what corporations will do.
I choose the GPL because no means NO.
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Ah, ok
I know all the times I was back that way (which thanks to my ex, was quite a bit) I know I saw alot of rivers, but most seemed to be clearer then ours. Even the bigger one's. Only time they muddied up was hard rains or if they had clay based rivers (Chattahoochee comes to mind). I know some of the rivers I fished I couldn't tell really how deep they truly were, since they were so clear, and that was in the winter. I nymphed alot, and had alot of success that way. But, I have an OP mindset, heavy sinktips and big flies. But, am gonna try and do some McMillan styled fishing this winter, when the shoulder is up to it.
The Genesee dmas talks about is the size of the Hoh with deeper holes. It is a very nice river. I used to drive along it to visit relatives who lived in Rochester, NY before I moved west 25 years ago. Never did fish it though if I still lived in Pennsylvania, it would be a place I'd fish.
cool stealheader
One of these days I'll get out there. I may get a chance to fish the Deschutes next august or early sept on my way to Alaska. Hope it pans out.
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Don't bring Teeny up. I know he has fans. But we have a name for guys like him in circles up here. I won't go any farther then that. But some of the stuff I've seen were in the spring/summer/late fall where we use techs like that. I don't use eggs, but nymphs and the like for summerrun fishing. But, use alot of leeches and "summer speys" for my summer fishing too. But some of the videos I've seen of him nymphing (on flyfish TV and the likes) were great lakes fishing. But I have only seen 3 of them on different TV shows, but all 3 he was back there (hard to sight fish the winter here when you have 2' visibillity max with polaroids on). Most of the rivers I fish have similar pools you're talking about, but even deeper (most of the big steelhead here will lay in king holes, roughly 8-20' deep, where I've pulled most of my over 20's out of). But, I agree, I use gear alot during the winter. Most holes I can dredge easier swinging bent metal for them there (gotta love spoons, and knowing how to drift them).
But, wasn't trying to jump on you. Just that I've fished both. And I've seen first hand how my techs just didn't cut it, but the moment I switched up, I was into fish.
Steelheader. No doubt, normally smaller patterns will take more fish in the Great Lakes and anybody starting out should go that route. High sticking eggs/nymphs is the way to go under most conditions. Especially in the winter...I agree. I wasn't even really addressing the initial post or your post for that matter. What I was reacting to was the idea that west coast patterns/techniques are "too traditional" for the great lakes to be consistently succesful. Bottom line is that most of my fishing in the Fall / Sping is done with a two handed rod swinging traditional flies. I fish leeches on occasion, but I'll just as often fish other flies that would easily be recognized as west coast standards. I tend to fish bigger flies in bigger water. Now I know big is a relative term. I don't fish the really large irons (say anything bigger than a 3 in an AJ or say a 2 in a 7999). I'll go to a tube fly if I feel I need something bigger than that. I fish the Genesee and Salmon rivers mostly. Genny is my home river and is some big water (I guess not Thomspon big) but Great lakes big and it ranges from a beautiful deep green color to a greenish/brown mess when it's fishin. I'm normally dredging 6-8 foot deep runs with a tip and a 2-4 foot tippet of 12lb maxima green. Normally I'm looking at 75-85 foot casts. Not west coast far I know but farther than a roll cast. IMO, some of the runs I fish need to be fished either traditionally or with gear. Yes this is a very specific set of conditions, not the great lakes norm but they exist.
The Niagra is huge. I don't fish there a bunch but it is massive and indimidating and guys fish that with very large streamer patterns.
In my opinion, the only way to fish the Cattaragaus is swinging. Lots of agressive wild fish and it's classic steelhead water.
My relatively limited dry fly experience has been on the lake erie tribs in the fall or spring with water temps above say lower 40's. It's been wakeing overgrown stimulators or smallish bombers etc. in tailouts. I generally have had no probems raising fish, however I admit that those tribs get very substantial runs out of that lake and eventually you are going to stumble onto a player.
However, all this said I'll still use egg patterns or nymphs if I think the conditions dictate it.
BTW....you are right, all I know about west coast steelhead is from what I have read from Comb's etc. But I've been fishin for "our"steelhead for a long time and my gut tells me they are the same fish. Conditions dictate how you approach them not necessarily geographic location. When I watch Jim Teeny's Sci Anglers video and he's sight fishin with nymphs, if I didn't know better, it looks an aweful lot like he could be fishing a Great Lakes trib. Or is he?
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Well, I'll keep this simple
I could go on a long story on this one. But, there is a big difference dmas. I'm not sure how many times you've fished here in the NW, but I fished the GL's with confidence and in "non crowded" conditions and had zero luck. But funny how instantly I had a hookup and kept catching fish when I switched over. I did not only fish in one spot mind you. I've made probably a good 50+ trips fishing the GL's throughout most of the GL states and rivers throughout (I have relatives strewn all over the area, but mostly in MN). Plus, the reverse is true. Some of those techniques would never work here, except in summer conditions (or drought conditions during winter). There is always a chance to catch fish on bigger flies anywhere. I've caught a small 12" rainbow swinging a size 2/0 "Hoh special" on the upper Hoh. So, there's always a chance. But, if I'm going to work a slot, especially remote, I'll use the most appropriate fly for the area. Now, skating flies. Well, depends on when you're talking about skating. If you're talking winter, then that's a much different beast all together if you constantly get them to rise in the winter time to dries. I've only met a couple (quite literally TWO) who have done this feat, and one was an over 20# steelhead at that. But for most part, you get alot of nose bumps, but no hits. During the summer, well, that's a different thing all together. But during the summer I use more naturals anyways, and SMALLER too. Most of the techs that I see used during the winter in the GL's were somewhat similar to what I see (and myself do as well) here in the NW for summerruns. So, we can agree to disagree. I've done most of my fishing in Ohio and MI, with some fishing in other states as well in the GL's. But I've found that my flyboxes were rendered useless the times I was there. At least, in the sizes I fished them at. Now, if I dropped down to maybe a size 6 or under, that may be different. But not up into my size 2 up flies.
Lastly, leeches are a different beast too. Can't bring those up. Most rivers (including our coastal glacial fed ones here ) have leeches in them. They are a food source, and well be fed upon. I've used some big assed leeches fishing for trout in New Jersey on the Penn. border. 3-4" for small browns and brook trout. So, that's a different beast. They'll open up and eat those readily. So leeches can't be accounted for in the "size mix" since it's an actual food source of real size (have seen leeches that big, if not bigger).
But, we can agree to disagree. You've fished them longer (like I said, I've only made about 50 or so fishing trips to the GL). But am basing off what I've seen and what has put fish on the bank for me. Since you yourself said that the flies you're using won't put the double digits on, which I assume you meant as just catching alot period. I assume the person above was looking for most productive flies. Especially if they are new to the sport. You want to give them the best opportunity to catch, not what has caught for you, but in limitated circumstances. I know I had quite a few high fish days, almost doubles using the smaller flies. And I'm someone who only came there during the weekends during fishing season for a few years. Figured, his best bet then beating the water with a bigger fly and only getting the few select. Always best to put someone new into a more productive atmosphere first, then let them go the way they want after that. If they want to try swinging bigger NW style flies, then that's their call afterwards.
The great lakes offer many oppourtunities to succesfully take steelhead, with traditional west coast steelheading flies and techniques and there are more guys than you think out there doing just that. Sure if you want to get after these fish under the crowded conditions in skinny water you are likely going to have to go to the light tippet small nymph/egg route to maximize sucess, but I would argue that this is no different than anywhere else that you will find steelhead. I have personally landed Great Lakes steelhead on skated dry flies and routinely take fish on 4 inch leech tube patterns. To sterotype a region the size of the great lakes by saying that small flies are the best option for every situtation is silly. Steelhead are steelhead and the west coast fish on some rivers see as many (if not more) real salmon eggs and aquatic insects floating by them as anyGreat lakes fish does. It's not like a 15lb fish leaves the big water and it's abundant baitfish to feed on salmon eggs and scuds anyway. They are in the rivers because they are programmed to be there. The absolute key to getting these fish with traditional flies is to fish the right conditions...and they exist. Heck we have had steel in many of our rivers for weeks and the water temps in most streams haven't even approached the 40's yet. Mid Feb with air temps in the teens and anchor ice in the river...yeah leave the two hander home but this time of year there is no need to chuck and duck unless you choose to. You may not get your double digit days but we have a big problem with inflated expectations out here anyway. But thats another story.
tight lines
Hey DFix,
Yeah, the Light & Humphey book does have a PNW 'slant', though several of the featured patterns have some Atlantic roots - such as the Blue Charm, Jock Scott, et al.
As a beginning tyer, the appeal of the book for me was it's detailed step-by-step tying instructions - many of which 'cross-over' to other patterns you'll eventually tie.
Like I said, it's a bit dated...but old is sometimes good! (grin)
Steelheader hit the nail on the head...
The food sources in the Great Lakes and tribs are different than the PNW. Yes, we can learn a lot from our PNW brethern, but for a learning procedure, if you are a GL fisherman, do as the successful fishermen do in the specific area...... it works. That's the BEST advice I can give.
Also, stream conditions are smaller, shallower streams.
Don't fight it, guys - do what catches fish.
I did alot of GL fishing when I was married. My ex worked for NW airlines, so flew back to see friends in Michigan and Ohio alot. So did some fishing. Will say this.
I used to bring my flyboxes for steelhead here. Mind you, this was pre internet. I was told by phone to bring my steelhead gear and flies to use when I showed up since fish were running. I had a virtually skunked trip using my NW gear. But, did some borrowing of local flies and started catching immediately. I had my OlyPen flies. Lots tied up on 1/0's and the likes. Some smaller, but no smaller then a size 2 with me (since it was winter time). I thoroughly worked my flies. So wasn't holding back and was fishing with confidence. But, no luck at all until I switched to smaller flies. BUT, the rivers were nearly at our summer conditions when I fished there.
Re: Re: GL Steelhead Patterns
Clear PNW rivers
There are times that the NW rivers need small flies too. The Snake and Clearwater have a number of fishermen that use quite small flies. We don't all use "shock and awe" of the Intruder.
Re: GL Steelhead Patterns
I'd argue that it's not the fish's preference but the conditions under which the GL fish are sought, cold hard midwest winter verses springtime in the cascades and olympics. That and the fact that trib fishermen like different and smaller flies, which is often of equal influence in popularization of flies.
Your thoughts on that philosophy?
Is that book more regionally oriented - PNW ?
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Simply delicious. Had to use ceramic baking dish (1.5" deep) as wooden boxes are getting hard to find. Made this many times, by request. Take your time with onions, they are great but it takes time and lots of constant stirring to get dark caramelization.
Fantastic! I usually make Brie en croute but decided to try this recipe instead, and am very glad I did. This was delicious--a creamy, tangy blend of sweet and savoury. The only changes I made were to sprinkle a tablespoon of brown sugar over the Brie before adding the onion, and to top with dried cranberries and toasted almonds to make it look more attractive.The added sweetness really enhanced the flavor. Everybody at the party loved it--I'll be making it again and again. My Brie had no box, so I used an 8" pottery casserole, and it looked great.
This was terrific! Couldn't imagine the other reviewers weren't exaggerating about what a hit it was. But so true! I did the onions just as the recipe called for -- delicious! Put them on top of the brie in a bread bowl that I had brushed all over with garlic butter. Hollowed out the lid and the bowl and used those pieces (cubed & baked with the bowl) for dipping. Baked on foil and a cookie sheet for 30 mminutes at 350. Only crumbs were left!
I've made this so many times that I have started to try variations. Its not the prettiest dish because of the dark brown of the onions, so I topped that with lightly toasted shaved almonds. It adds a nice texture too. Also, I have used 2 wheels of brie and put the layer of onions between them. for the top I tried a thin layer of fig confit, again followed by toasted shaved almonds. That was really good, and attractive too. People literally DO stand around the platter til its gone!
Dear Sonoma - how long and at what temperature do you bake the wonton "cups"?
Super easy, luxurious and inspires awe in those who eat it. I've made this a number of times and people have actually stood over it until it was gone.
I use the basic recipe and made individual baked brie in wonton "cups". place square wonton wrapper in mini muffin pans that have been sprayed with oil. put in cheese and top with onion mix. I also use wrappers for mini quiches, or fill with a mix of spinach, grated swiss, and egg. There are lots of variations. People are really impressed and it's easy and freezes well. Anyone else do this?
Can someone explain what to do with the caramelized onions and melted brie? This recipe just tells me to caramelize the onions and bake and put the brie on platter. How is it served? No explanation is given. Many thanks to anyone who can help me.
Excellent recipe and very simple. I did the onions ahead of time and decreased the amounts because my brie was smaller. I also used a brie baker dish instead of the box. While it doesn't look very appetizing, the taste is really nice. All of my guests loved it.


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Probably the very best of Jo Ellen LaRue Thomas' recipes is the one that didn't make print last week. That is the Caramel Italian Cream Cake.
I know this will be popular with many of you, even my one student that always tells me every time I see her she says, "Mrs. Sweat, I think of you every time I make an Italian Cream Cake."
That's because the first one she made was in my Foods class. OK, Barb. I want you to try this one.
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Caramel Italian Cream Cake
1 cup finely chopped pecans
½ cup butter softened
½ cup shortening
1 ½ cups sugar
½ cup firmly packed dark brown sugar
5 large eggs, separated
1 tablespoon vanilla
2 cups all-purpose flour
1 teaspoon baking soda
1 cup buttermilk
1 cup sweetened flaked coconut
1 cup toasted coconut for topping
Place shaved coconut in a single layer in a shallow pan. Place pecans in a second shallow pan. Toast coconut and pecans at the same time for 5-7 minutes at 425 degrees or until coconut is toasted and pecans are lightly toasted and fragrant, stirring halfway through.
Beat butter and shortening at medium speed with an electric mixer until fluffy; gradually add white and brown sugars, beating well. Add egg yolks, one at a time, beating until blended after each addition. Add vanilla, and blend.
Combine flour and baking soda; add to butter mixture alternately with buttermilk, beginning and ending with flour mixture. Beat at low speed just until blended after each addition. Stir in pecans and 1 cup sweetened flaked coconut.
Beat egg whites at high speed until stiff peaks form, and fold into batter. Pour into 3 greased and floured 9-inch round cake pans.
Bake at 350 degrees for 25 minutes or until a wooden pick inserted in center comes out clean. Cool in pans for 10 minutes, remove and cool completely. Use your favorite caramel icing for between layers and top of the cake. Use your favorite cream cheese icing for the sides. Garnish with the toasted shaved coconut.
Source: Jo Ellen Larue Thomas
Chicken Casserole
1 chicken - cooked, boned, and chopped
1 can cream of mushroom soup
1 can cream of chicken soup
1 can cream of celery soup
½ cup chopped celery
½ cup chopped onion
1 can evaporated milk
1 stick margarine
1 package Pepperidge Farm stuffing mix (Herb-seasoned)
Put chopped chicken in 9 x 13 baking dish. Sauté onion and celery in small amount of margarine and add to soups, add milk, and pour all over chicken. Sprinkle dry stuffing mix over top and cut pats of margarine on top of stuffing mix. Bake in a 350 degree oven for approximately 40 minutes or until the mixture is bubbly and slightly brown.
Source: Joyce Johnson
Bacon Cheddar Meat Loaves
4 egg whites
½ cup crushed reduced-fat butter-flavored crackers (about 13 crackers)
1/3 cup plus 8 teaspoons shredded reduced-fat cheddar cheese, divided
1/4 cup chopped onion
½ teaspoon salt
1/4 teaspoon pepper
1 pound lean ground beef
2 turkey bacon strips, cut in half
In a large bowl, combine the egg whites, crackers, 1/3 cup cheese, onion, salt and pepper. Crumble beef over mixture and mix well. Shape into four small loaves; place in an ungreased 11-in. x 7-in. x 2-in. baking dish. Top each with a half-strip of bacon. Bake at 350° for 35-40 minutes or until a meat thermometer reads 160 degrees. Sprinkle with remaining cheese; bake 2-3 minutes longer or until cheese is melted.
Source: Tonya Vowels
Baked Mashed Potatoes
2 cup Idahoan real premium mashed potatoes
3 cups water
1 cup milk
4 tablespoons margarine
1 cup shredded cheddar cheese
1 egg, beaten
1 cup sour cream
1 cup small curd cottage cheese
5 green onions, finely chopped
½ cup of French fried onions
Heat water, milk, and margarine in a sauce pan to a boil. Remove from heat, stir in potatoes. Let stand for one minute, add egg, sour cream, green onions, cottage cheese, cheddar cheese and add enough milk so that it's moist (if needed). Then place in a greased 1½ quart baking dish. Top with French fried onions and bake uncovered at 350 degrees for 20 to 30 minutes or until lightly browned. This dish can be made ahead and refrigerated. Just sprinkle the fried onions on just before baking. Yield: 8 servings
Source: Peggy Hash
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This is a beautiful modern reproduction by Ray Kotke (telephonecreations.com). Very few of the original clear AE40's were made. Ray makes these reproductions one mold at a time and they are really impressive. I added the Southern Pacific Daylight number card for a little color... I'm sure SP never had one of these!


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Black Kettle Wildlife Management Area
By: Scott Parry Biologist at Black Kettle, Ellis County, and Packsaddle WMA's. Phone: (580)515-2030
Driving Directions: Near Cheyenne: There are approximately 100 units scattered throughout the area, consult map for specific unit locations. The U.S. Forest Service Administrative Office is west of town on State Hwy 47: (580)-497-2143.
Area Description: Black Kettle WMA
covers 30,710 acres near the town of Cheyenne in Roger Mills
County. Located in the mixed grass prairie, it is a mixture of
rolling sand hills, red shale hills, and wooded bottoms.
Upland sites are vegetated with mixed grass species including big bluestem, indian grass, little bluestem, side-oats grama, and buffalo grass and brush species like shinnery oak, sagebrush, and sand plum. The red shale hills are dominated by shortgrass, sagebrush, and occasional mesquite trees. The wooded bottoms are dominated by cottonwood, elm, and hackberry trees. The average annual precipitation for the area is about 24 inches.
Black Kettle WMA is owned by the U.S. Forest Service. For non-hunting information contact: Black Kettle National Grassland, (580) 497-2143.
Game Species of Interest:
Quail: Bobwhite quail are usually present in good numbers, but are highly sought after.
Deer: White-tailed deer are present in fair numbers.
Turkey: Rio Grande wild turkeys are usually present in good numbers, but are highly sought after.
Rabbit: Mostly cottontails, but an occasional jackrabbit may be found.
Furbearers: Coyote, bobcat and raccoon are available.
Dove: Dove are usually present in good numbers during peak migrations.
Waterfowl: Present in low numbers and limited to upper part of recreation lakes, two wetland development areas, and several small ponds.
Nongame Species of Interest:
Mississippi Kite: Present on the WMA during summer months.
Scissor-Tailed Flycatcher; May be observed in open country from early April to late July.
Description of Wildlife Management Practices: Management efforts focus on producing native wildlife foods such as ragweed and sunflower, although some small agricultural food plots are planted annually. Wildlife water is made available on most units.
Camping and Facilities: Primitive camping is allowed on entire WMA in accordance with US Forest Service, Black Kettle National Grassland regulations. Three developed camping areas are also available including Skipout, Spring Creek, and Black Kettle; no RV hookups available. Lodging and restaurants are available in Cheyenne.
No shooting range available.
Fishing Opportunities: Fishing opportunities exist at Spring Creek Lake (60 acres), Skipout Lake (60 acres), Black Kettle Lake (80 acres), and several small ponds.
Black Kettle WMA Map - best general purpose map, pdf format (8.5x11)
class="MsoNormal" align="left"> Alternate maps available through US Forest Service: 580-497-2143. Cost approximately $10.00.
Regulations: Seasons on public lands section of hunting regulations
For additional
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Elk City Chamber of Commerce
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UKIP cleans up in European election
Nigel Farage claimed victory in the European elections today, breaking a 108-year record as UKIP sent more MEPs than ever to Brussels.
The party topped the polls in the UK, and won three out of seven seats in the West Midlands based on its share of the vote as 428,010 voters backed it.
Farage hailed his party's first win in a national election as an 'earthquake' in British politics.
Coming a year ahead of the General Election, it is the first time a party other than the Conservatives or Labour has topped a nationwide poll in 108 years.
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In the West Midlands Labour won two seats with 330,470 and the Tories got two with 330,470.
The Liberal Democrats lost their only MEP – along with all but one in the country – while two former UKIP MEPs, Mike Nattrass and Nikki Sinclaire, failed to hold the seats they were trying to win as independents with new parties they set up themselves.
Nationally, the Liberal Democrats were the biggest losers as Nick Clegg paid the price for his gamble to position the party as the natural opponents to UKIP's Euroscepticism.
Mr Farage claimed victory, saying: "UKIP is going to win this election and, yes, that will be an earthquake because never before in the history of British politics has a party that will be seen to be an insurgent party ever topped the polls in a national election."
In his acceptance speech after topping the poll in the South East , Mr Farage said: "The people's army of UKIP have spoken and have delivered just about the most extraordinary result in British politics for 100 years."
He said the party 'bit very hard' into the Labour vote in the north, almost topped the poll in Wales, gained a seat in Scotland and 'we are genuinely a UK Independence Party'.
"You have not heard the last of us," he said.
The Prime Minister's party came third in many areas with UKIP topping the polls in areas with Tory MPs such as South Staffordshire, Stafford, Lichfield and Cannock Chase.
The party also did well in Walsall and Dudley, where it gained councillors on Thursday. But Labour won more votes in cities like Birmingham, Coventry and Wolverhampton as well as in Sandwell. Jill Seymour, one of three new UKIP MEPs and a parish councillor in Shropshire, said: "Quite simply the British public is fed up of the same old rhetoric and spin. They are fed up of the same old repetitive lines from the Lib Lab Con."
Conservative MEP Philip Bradbourn, who kept his seat, said: "They are a force to be reckoned with and we have to acknowledge that. We all do. They don't just take votes from the Conservatives.
"There are a number of different factors, not least people feeling disaffected with politics.
"Over the past five years the things I have been working on have included preventing legislation coming through that would have had an adverse effect on business.
"There was going to be a law that would have cost hauliers £5,000 for every vehicle to fit equipment that was not necessary." And Sion Simon, one of two Labour MEPs, elected this morning, said: "I haven't stood for election because I'm interested in the European Parliament. I stood because I'm passionate about the West Midlands.
"We have three per cent fewer people employed than the rest of the country.
"This is about jobs, growth and investment.
"It's about the economy and how a powerful institution can make a difference to people's lives."
Bill Etheridge, aged 44, also won a seat on Dudley Council in the local elections on Thursday, representing Sedgley.
He said he would do both jobs. "I won't be spending all my time in Brussels. I'm going to be based in Sedgley," he said.
"We've taken votes off everyone. People haven't just lent us their vote. I hope they will continue to see that we are different to the mainstream parties that have let them down. We've won a surge in support, not just from the Tories but in Labour areas too," he said.
James Carver is a new West Midlands UKIP MEP and Labour's Neena Gill returns to Brussels five years after losing her seat. She said: "There have been some tremors. I'm not sure it was an earthquake. UKIP did better than many smaller parties have previously
"But people are struggling to make ends meet and find jobs. It's very easy in the circumstances to say that's someone's fault and look for someone to blame. UKIP tapped into that discontent and exploited it." Conservative Anthea McIntyre, who kept her seat, said: "UKIP winning seats damages the UK because they don't speak for Britain. The Conservatives, Labour and Lib Dems do all they can but UKIP doesn't."
The list of West Midlands winners is:
- Jill Seymour (UKIP)
- Neena Gill (Labour)
- Philip Bradbourn (Conservative)
- Jim Carver (UKIP)
- Sion Simon (Labour)
- Anthea McIntyre (Conservative)
- Bill Etheridge (UKIP)
Labour topped the poll in Birmingham, with UKIP coming second. In Telford and Wrekin it was the other way around. The Tories were third in both areas. In Cannock Chase UKIP won, with Labour in second and the Conservatives third. The Liberal Democrats came fourth with 710 votes. In Lichfield, normally a safe Conservative seat, UKIP also came first, beating the Tories 8,975 to 8,182. The same happened in solidly Conservative South Staffordshire, with UKIP gaining 11,076 votes to the Conservatives' 8,990. UKIP also won in Stafford, Shropshire and Wyre Forest, pushing the Tories into second place.
Labour comfortably won in Sandwell with 30,991 votes to UKIP's 20,776 and also topped poll in Wolverhampton.
Independent MEP Nikki Sinclaire conceded defeat at 10pm, before the results were announced. The 46-year-old was originally an MEP for UKIP in 2009 but left the party in a row over its grouping with 'extreme right wing' parties in the Brussels Parliament.
In a statement Miss Sinclaire said: "My supporters will be disappointed, and naturally I am too.
"It has been an honour and a pleasure to represent 5.2 million constituents over the past five years. I have met thousands of people in my role, getting involved in community projects and giving a voice to the voiceless, and lending an ear when others simply wouldn't listen.
"I'm also proud of the campaign we ran here in the West Midlands, far larger than anybody had ever seen before, and many thanks to those who spent time talking to me and the team on the campaign trail.
"More importantly, thank you to everybody who took the time to vote for me on Thursday and for those who have stood by me."
The Tories were defending three seats and retained two. Philip Bradbourn and Anthea McIntyre were re-elected while Dan Dalton failed to replace retiring MEP Malcolm Harbour. Labour improved upon the one member Ed Miliband's party had in the West Midlands. Michael Cashman is retiring and former MEP Neena Gill won her bid to return to Brussels five years after losing her seat. Former Erdington MP Sion Simon also successfully stood for Labour but former Stourbridge MP Lynda Waltho missed. The Liberal Democrats lost their only West Midlands seat, held by Phil Bennion. UKIP won two in 2009 but its MEPs Mike Nattrass and Miss Sinclaire had both since quit the party and formed their own Eurosceptic groups. They are each trying to defend their seats tonight.
But UKIP has replaced them as candidates with Shropshire-based Jill Seymour, a parish councillor in Kynnersley, Telford, and umbrella maker James Carver. New Dudley councillor Bill Etheridge, elected to Sedgley on Thursday, won the third seat for UKIP.
No European was country allowed to reveal anything until after polls have closed across the continent. Italy was still voting today so counts had to wait until polling stations there have been shut.
Turnout across the West Midlands was just over 33 per cent with less than 1.4m people voting out of an electorate of 4.1m.
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Margaret Hamilton
So we've effectively got nobody representing us in the EU Parliament now. The Tories in Westminster can now go wild! Well done UKIP.
funny old world
You can only blame Labour for that.
What i find fascinating and amazing is how every single Brit, including immigrants now living here sides with one party blaming the other for the faults, labour is blamed for the bank collapse, did they make it happen all over the world??? conservatives are blamed for lack of jobs, yeah well maybe lol. Lib dems, well less said about them the better, the truth is it is political brain washing and every single party and every single MP or MEP is exactly the same no matter what party they are in. They are only interested in one thing and that is themselves, big houses vast salaries and keeping their own companies at the top. I think it's about time someone came along and rocked the boat, Well done to UKIP for that, i don't believe in your policies but you are now a VERY REAL threat to the 3 main ruling parties, maybe now they will listen to what the people who voted them in really want.
Margaret Hamilton
Huh? I don't see Labour in the EU parliament sitting there and thieving their money without doing any work, nor do I see them in Westminster being vile to people like the lot we have now. Labour are just a bunch of Thatcher clones these days. I suggest that you don't appreciate how far to the right things have gone in the last 35 years. Ted Heath wouldn't even make it into the Liberal Democrats today.
Well there you go Margaret, point proven. Another brain washed avid follower just like everyone else
This could be the end of the E.U. I do hope so !
A question. If UKIP are so set on leaving the Union, why are the celebrating being a bigger part of it? What is the point of them having so many MEPs if they want to pull out?
funny old world
A voice.
Because it's the first time that those opposed to foreign rule have been given a voice. After years of being patronised and ridiculed on Europe, immigration, multi-culturalism and other trendy fads foisted on them by the ruling liberal elites people are taking a chance to say stop.
I see the Germans have elected an NDP candidate, Denmark has swung to the right, besides France, even you must be able to notice this and identify the reasons.
Are you still planning on emigrating, the socialsit utopia of Venezuela may suit you?
I would suggest that you move to North Korea Sir. All of the trappings that you loathe here would not apply!
charlie, Mac is suggesting you need a haircut in the style of that fat, ugly lump of insanity ruling N.Korea.
I find it strange that unless you agree with these Left Wingers, you must be a fascist and a Hitler Worshipper.
They cannot contemplate a middle road where true democracy lives.
PS: I lived through Hitler's times. Fewer have been more evil in the history of the World. DON'T joke about it.
Mac, they can influence some of the worst EU rulings from there, keep the quango shower under surveillance and tell us what the sods are up to. It's a start and could lead to bigger things. Like a referendum !
Hit him on the tail
It boils down to Blair and Brown allowing every man and his dog into the U.K. Also Cameron and Clegg. The main " big three parties " are out of touch with the electorate and basically have made broken promises for too many years now.
I shall just be glad when we can put an end to this fanciful absurdity of EU elections and enjoyed by the few at the expense of the many, and when we pull out of the EU the Labour party will feel the pinch, as they wont be able to play the race card and campaign for the immigrant vote with sweeteners like reduced residency from 2yrs to 4wks for council housing as is the rule in Wolverhampton
Let's just give UKIP power and see if they cope any better than the current failing lot once they are sucked into Whitehall- where the real power lies.
So Bill Etheridge is now a Dudley Councillor and an MEP. His constituents in both cases need to keep an eye on him to make sure he can do both jobs properly.
funny old world
I wouldn't worry too much, Dudley Councillors didn't do much of a job before.
In answer to Margaret's question re there is now nobody representing us now in the European Parliament ? I didn't think there was anyone in the European Parliament representing us in the first place.
Margaret Hamilton
Graham, it's very odd to me that the party that bleats the most about democracy is the very party that is effectively denying the voters their democratic rights! Sitting there doing nothing and taking the money? If they were "dole scroungers" or "lazy immigrants" they would be the talk of the land. While the European parliament exists, and while we have democratically elected representatives there they should be working on our behalf. The European Union is the only entity today which looks after worker's rights. Why no workers rights and poverty wages are considered a good thing in days like these I shall never understand.
I wonder if these UKIP MEP's will practice what they preach and refuse the bloated payments and expenses from Brussels or will they quickly get their noses in the trough like all the others.
Margaret Hamilton
I look forward to being made to work 72 hour weeks again, having my holiday allowance cut by 50%, the NHS being sold off, having to survive another 10 years with no pension, hand-gun training and ownership, big business standing on my windpipe whilst I grovel in the gutter for more crumbs, no more international trade, being gassed in the pub by smokers again, even more age discrimination in the workplace and the poverty wages that go with it, the odd war around Europe, having no human rights and being tortured, not having any legal representation at all, all the women in my family having to have a hysterectomy so that they can get a job, pressing my children's army uniforms, not being able to visit neighbouring countries even if I could afford it, all the money saved by th leaving the EU NOT being spent on any public services, hospitals or schools, my house blowing up or cracking in half because it's been fracked, no consumer rights, no health and safety, Romanians wearing gold stars on their clothes so that we can avoid them in the town, being attacked in the street because of my views, a return to the stone age with more cuts and austerity, 24 hour expensive drivel on TV because the licence fee has been scrapped, forced labour for the unfortunate unemployed, Paul Sykes in the House of Lords, Neil B****y Hamilton, more links with European fascists, and even more farage on TV. You've been had.
Have you been drinking? That's completely and rather obviously an OTT comment and just the type of scaremongering that the main three parties tried and failed at.
However, it was funny!
funny old world
Joseph Goebbels had nothing on you Margaret.
Well Margaret you really have surpassed yourself this time. I would suggest that you stop reading and playing science fiction books and games also listening to Unite. The result of this election brought out a claim by one analyst that the reason UKIP had not done so well in London was because Londoners were better educated and more intelligent that the rest of the country. Remember that is where the Government of this country is and that is what they think of us. It is time for a change.
Jeez Margaret, you are in a state. I've lived through far more years than you have and even in the 30s it wasn't QUITE that bad. OK they did a 48 hour week in foundries, they smoked in pubs and everywhere else, had only 1 week's holiday (with or without pay back then), but they were nowhere near as miserable as you !
PS: The 5 main channels on TV do drivel from am to pm.
PPS: And farage is entitled to a capital....Farage.
Margaret Hamilton
Typical UKIP bigots! Play the woman and not the ball. It's always personal attacks with you lot isn't it? Look at yourselves, don't you see why more rational people see UKIP supporters as such bigots? Not a single sensible comment from any of you, just attack the individual. All the points in my letter above refer to the other polices of UKIP, you are either foaming at the mouth too much about Johnny Foreigner to notice or you are ignoring them.
Breathtaking display of their own idea of "tolerance" for which the left are world-renowned!
Cameron commented farage was not a proper bloke who goes down the pub, Well cameron you never go down the pub because a bloke who goes down the pub will listen to you, You dont even listen to the people who voted you in, The men and women of this country battled in two world wars to stop this country being invaded, Now weve got everyone invading it, Two pointless wars thats these guys and gals sacrificed there lives for, I would just like to say good bye to all three main partys, Your all about as usefull as an ashtray an motorbike,,,,,,,,Bring it on ukip, I want my country back!
The men and women of many countries battled in two world wars.....the world battled against fascism in the second- fighting a political ethos that shunned all but the 'native' race. Sound familiar.
This is my OTT comment (in deference to the wonderful Margaret):
You reap what you sow, if the right makes gains across Europe then those who want out of the EU will be happy- but at the expense of countless lives. We have been there before......
UKIP whilst we awake.........
Mac, I lived through that 2nd World War and I can assure you we were united against Fascism. BUT, had the Armed Forces known that in less than 30 years our country would be handed over to the EU without a shot being fired, they may well have laid down their arms.
Just how do you reconcile your mind with The Common Market becoming the EU ? We had never even heard of the EU when we voted for The Common Market. I was one of the voters duped by this obscene ploy and have never, nor will I ever, forgive the perpetrators. With the accent being on TRAITORS !
snoopy, that's the best comparison I've read in many a long year,
'an ashtray on a motorbike'. Superb ! How about telling Nigel that one ?
PJW Holland
Having met the bloke I can assure you Nigel Farage is indeed a proper bloke. Good humoured and polite. No, on second thoughts, he is not just a bloke. He is a gentleman.
"Cameron commented farage was not a proper bloke who goes down the pub, Well cameron you never go down the pub because a bloke who goes down the pub will listen to you"
The last time Cameron tried to be a proper bloke who went down to the pub, he left his daughter Nancy behind.
PJW Holland
This is the dawning of the age of democracy and as Nigel says: "You ain't seen nothing yet!"
UKIP representatives were mobbed by cheering crowds wherever they went. Not everyone had made it to the polls but watch out next time. They will.
Let's hope Nigel can bring an age of democracy to the muslim flag-ship council of Tower Hamlets, who've yet to declare their local results from last Thursday.
Although the police and electoral comission have been involved I'm sure everything was above board and squeaky clean.


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Oregon will face Byron on Thursday, Feb. 7 in the championship game of the Byron Class 2A Regional.
The game is scheduled to begin at 7:30 p.m. at the Byron High School.
Oregon advanced to the regional final by beating Rockford Christian 50-35 on Wednesday night. Byron defeated North Boone 63-33.
Oregon trailed Rockford Christian 28-27 at the end of three quarters, but went on to outscore RC 23-7 in the fourth quarter.
Samantha Lambrigtsen led Oregon with 22 points followed by Madeline Sanders with 9, McKaylee Beeter, Bree Tourtillott and Devyn Absher with 5 each.
Byron led 41-18 at the half and never looked back. Ellie Kehne led the Lady Tigers with 15 points followed by Mayson Whipple with 14, Sophie Reecher with 11, and Malory Getzelman with 10.


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An amazing run of victories has resulted in a first-ever invitation to the Hope College women's lacrosse team to compete in the post-season playoffs of the Women's Collegiate Lacrosse League (WCLL) this weekend in Toledo, Ohio. The games will be played at the University of Toledo.
Lacrosse for men and women at Hope College is a club sport with the goal of it becoming a varsity sport when it is recognized by the Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association (MIAA), possibly as early as the 2012-13 school year. Women's lacrosse has been a club sport at Hope since 2000.
This year the Flying Dutch posted an 11-2 record reeling off 11 consecutive victories after suffering losses in their first two outings. The team finished runnerup to Aquinas in the North Central region of the 40-team conference that consists of Division I, II and III institutions from New York to Wisconsin.
Hope will compete in the "B" division playoffs beginning Saturday against an unbeaten Aquinas team (19-0) that defeated the Flying Dutch 14-7 early in the season. Other teams in the "B" division playoffs are Oakland, West Virginia, Dayton, DePaul, Butler and Augustana. Hope is seeded sixth among the eight teams.