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I really don't get why everyone is flaming this car already. We don't know much yet. Chill out.
I really don't get why everyone is flaming this car already. We don't know much yet. Chill out.
It's officially official: http://www.autoblog.com/2012/05/17/h...rth-america-o/
Calling it "Holden's worst kept secret," a report in Australia's Drive indicates that the General Motors antipodean brand will announce "very soon" that it will be exporting "thousands of Commodores to the U.S. from 2013." Or, put another way, we will be getting thousands of Chevrolet SS Performance sedans the Pontiac G8 in a previous life starting next year.
The report says Holden is divulging the news earlier than planned because leaks just about everywhere, including OnStar, as well as trade-publication reports and speculation about GM's 2013 NASCAR entrant, have got everyone looking southward for confirmation of the answer we already (almost) know.
Drive says our rear-wheel drive Chevrolet will get a revised take on the VF-model Commodore that has an aluminum hood to make it lighter and less aggressive wheel arches to make it more slippery. No hard numbers are attached to the export rumors, but it is expected to number "much fewer than the 50,000-odd" units that were predicted for the Pontiac G8 program.
The scintillating line for bitter enthusiasts still chafing over the confirmed-then-cancelled G8 ST Ute corn tease is that the exports "could also expand to involve ute and sportwagon variants." Drive didn't, but we will emphasize the word "could," since we've been here before. However, that does jive with a report in Car and Driver indicating the same thing. Holden's announcement could be made as soon as later today right now see below for update.
*UPDATE: Well that didn't take long. General Motors has officially confirmed that the new Holden-derived sedan will be called simply Chevrolet SS. The SS will race in NASCAR beginning with the 2013 Daytona 500 and will appear in showrooms in 2014. GM isn't getting into specifics, but says "The much anticipated Australian-built car will benefit from significant technology advances which enhance overall performance." As to additional bodystyles like a wagon or pickup, well, GM isn't saying. See more in the official press release added below, and click on the image above to get a look at GM's newest racer all camo'd up.
Out of all the cars in the market, they can be arranged in a pyramid, like this:
1. Cars I would buy, and are actually in the market for (zero or very few models at any point in time)
2. Cars I like, and would buy if I were in the market for, but I'm just not right now (a slightly larger number of cars, of which this is one)
3. Cars I like, might recommend, but wouldn't likely buy (a pretty large group of cars)
4. Cars I don't like, wouldn't likely recommend (most cars)
The existence of the second and third groups seems to bother you. Why?
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I don't know how I'll afford it but if the ute gets brought over, I will have it.
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Gone but not forgotten: '99 Camaro SS 6MT | '00 Mustang GT 5MT | and a bunch of Maximas and other cars...
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here's the thing that I don't get with the SS nomenclature:
what do you call the lukewarm ones?
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would love the 6.0L with a 6 speed
procharger will handle the rest
Boiler Up!
Make it three yards mother****er and we'll have an automobile race
Are the powertrains really completely unchanged? Up against the Taurus and new Charger it seems suicidal to not offer the direct-injection version of the V6. That was one of the biggest oversights of the G8 to me... there was practically no fuel economy benefit to the V6. This car with the fuel economy of the base Camaro would be a more appealing package.
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I don't practice llanteria
Colored in what I could see, styling wise on the front.
The photo they used made the drivers side headlight area invisible, so I couldnt find it.
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New Stuff: Two RWD Platforms On the Way
Todays Zeta will morph into the lighter and even more flexible Zeta II for 2015, at which point the Camaro will move onto the Alpha component set also used by Cadillacs ATS and next-gen CTS. Before that happens, though, Chevy will sell a pair of Zeta-based cars. Actually, the first of these is already on saleif youre a state, county, or municipal government thats allowed to purchase imported products. (Many departments have rules that prevent them from purchasing vehicles not assembled in America.) The vehicle is the Chevrolet Caprice PPV.
The second vehicle, of course, is the most interesting. Perhaps as a way to justify future North American production of its cop car, perhaps simply because Chevy gets it, a civilized, civilian take on the PPV joins the model lineup next year. Wearing the SuperSport badge, the car will initially ride on the current Zeta platform and be offered exclusively as a four-door sedan. The SuperSport name and styling also will be applied to the 2013 Chevrolet NASCAR entry. The launch powerplant for the roadgoing car is expected to be the Camaro SSs 6.2-liter V-8, pumping out something on the high side of 415 hp. A version of GMs latest 3.6-liter V-6 will be added after the launch for the weaker of heart; wed expect this engine to produce at least 320 hp. The SuperSport and the Caprice PPV will then migrate to the Zeta II platform in time for the 2015.5 model year. When this happens, full production will shift to North America, thereby delivering a much larger market for the cop version. In addition to the SuperSport sedan, a cropped-rear-overhang sport wagon and a Ute pickup are being considered for the North American market.
Zeta II also will be used for two Chinese-market Buicks starting in late 2014, and one or both of these cars could arrive in North American showrooms if its determined that brand needs large rear-drive cars. Conspicuously absent from the Zeta II plans is anything from Cadillac. Thats another storyand another platform.
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Holden was offered the Sigma (CTS) platform but it was too expensive for the Commodore's market segment. Keep in mind that this car is essentially the Chevy Impala of Australia cheap and big, sees copious amounts of fleet duty, and is Oz's taxi of choice. This is all readily apparent when you drive a G8. Corners were cut in the interest of saving cash.
Like I said, with the Commodore quickly losing its top sales position, Holden needs to do something pretty bold with this next car.
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West Springfield, Mass. – AIC ended a 15-game winless streak against the Canisius College hockey team on Saturday afternoon, earning a 5-3 victory against the Griffs. The loss drops Canisius to 10-14-2 on the season and 9-8-2 against Atlantic Hockey foes, while the Yellow Jackets improve to 7-18-1 and 6-12-1 in league play.
"AIC won the game in the first two periods today," said Canisius head coach Dave Smith. "They imposed their style of play on the game and were opportunistic with their opportunities. The passion that we played with in the third period needs to show up in the first 40 minutes as well for us to be our most successful. We knew coming into the weekend that AIC was dangerous off the rush and had an uncanny knack for loose pucks around the net and that's how they got a two-goal lead after two periods."
Senior Kyle Gibbons and juniors Doug Jessey and Braeden Rigney all scored for the Griffs in the defeat.
The Griffs grabbed the early lead in the contest thanks to Rigney's sixth goal of the season. Jessey fired a shot off the goal post and Rigney was there to knock the rebound in for the 1-0 advantage. Freshman Josh Kielich also registered an assist on the goal 6:06 into the period.
The Yellow Jackets knotted the game just 68 seconds later when Alexander MacMillan scored but the Griffs responded just 32 seconds after losing the lead behind Gibbons' 12th goal of the season. Sophomore defender Chris Rumble's was wide of the net on a shot and senior Patrick Sullivan threw the puck out in front, where Gibbons would knock it for the 2-1 lead with 12:14 remaining in the opening period.
AIC once again answered back, scoring a short-handed goal with 9:25 remaining in the first when Dan Clairmont tipped a shot into the back of the net for the 2-2 score.
The Yellow Jackets then carried their momentum into the second frame and grabbed a two-goal advantage. Steven Hoshaw sent a blast on goal that netminder Tony Capobianco could only get a piece of before the puck trickled past the goal line 58 seconds into the frame. AIC extended its lead to two, taking advantage of a Canisius turnover in the neutral zone when Clairmont scored on a 3-on-2 break for a 4-2 lead with 9:45 remaining in the period.
Canisius pulled to within one with 17:23 remaining in regulation when Jessey scored his fifth goal of the season. The junior fired a shot into the back of the net off passes from Rumble and junior Mitch McCrank while on the power play for the 4-3 score.
The Griffs, however, were unable to find the equalizer, in the final 17-plus minutes and the Yellow Jackets sealed the victory with 28.5 seconds remaining with an empty-net goal for the 5-3 win.
Canisius finished the game with a 34-25 advantage in shots, including a 14-4 edge in the third period. The Griffs were 1-for-4 on the power play, while killing the only two AIC extra-man chances.
Capobianco and junior Keegan Asmundson combined to make 20 saves for the Griffs. Hunter Leisner stopped 31 shots to earn the win for the Yellow Jackets.
Canisius returns to action next week with a pair of games against Battle of the Bridge rival Niagara. The schools open the series in Lewiston on Thursday night at 7:05 p.m.
Game Notes: Canisius, who was 13-0-2 in its last 15 games against AIC, last lost to the Yellow Jackets on Nov. 17, 2007 … The loss also ended the Griffs' four-game road winning streak, the longest for the team since the 2000-01 season … Canisius lost for the first time this season when outshooting its opponent … The Griffs also lost for only the second time this season when scoring three goals in a game (entered the game 10-1-0 this season when scoring three) … Rumble recorded a career-best two assists … All five of Jessey's goals this season have come on the power play.

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Amy Lee, a transfer student from the Lone Star College System, graduated with a degree in education from University of St. Thomas nearly debt free and with a job opportunity at Horne Elementary School in the Cy-Fair Independent School District. How did she do it?
"You have to want it," Lee said. "Neither one of my parents went to college, so I was excited to be able to complete and earn my degree. Besides federal financial aid, the other grants are solely based on academics or applying for different scholarships. I just didn't let one pass."
Lee, who is from a little town called Fresno outside of Houston, was able to completely cover the cost of five years of education with only about $2,500 left. Other St. Thomas institutional financial aid, such as the Transfer Student Scholarship, the Alumni Association Student Award and the Tuition Equalization Grant, helped her cover the costs of tuition and books.
According to CollegeBoard Advocacy and Policy Center's "Trends in Higher Education Series: Trends in Student Aid 2012," about two-thirds of students earning bachelor's degrees from private nonprofit institutions had debt averaging $29,900.
When Lee transitioned to UST in 2010, the Office of Financial Aid and Scholarships assisted her with scholarship eligibility.
After figuring out all the finances, Lee could focus purely on her degree in the School of Education. Dr. Rick Krustchinsky, associate dean of the undergraduate education program, worked with Lee. She said his hands-on teaching methods were perfectly applicable to children, and she still emails him with questions.
Krustchinsky said from the first time he advised Lee as a transfer student, he knew she was going to be a fabulous student and addition to the teacher education program.
"Her excellent academic record from a community college coupled with her enthusiasm and positive attitude was sensational," Krustchinsky said. "Now that she graduated, Amy is one of those students who we will never forget. She indeed has had a wonderful three years at UST accomplishing everything I knew she would from that first visit in my office."
With Krustchinsky's encouragement, Lee applied and was accepted into the NASA Pre-Service Teacher Institute, a week-long training for future teachers. She was also able to study abroad in Jamaica in January 2013 with her education cohort group. She said she will miss the community of the cohort group.
"Having that community made it such an easy flow because we have a lot of group projects and going out into the field together," she said. "It makes it so much easier if everybody is close. We're a unit outside as well, so when we go to other schools, we know how to bond with other teachers and be a team."
Lee said everyone in the graduating education cohort at UST has a job. Now, Lee is in a long-term substitute teaching position at Horne. She will be teaching third grade language arts at Horne next year.
"It's very exciting to graduate with a degree in general, but coming from St. Thomas makes it more exciting," she said. "It's exciting to say that I came from a prestigious school like St. Thomas and say I made it. If I can make it, anyone can make it. Trust me."
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Every Thursday, get the Gazette's complete listing of concerts, films, theater, music, dance and other performing arts. It's all one click away in the ENTERTAINMENT CENTER.
The Artists Hand Gallery, 732 Philadelphia St., Indiana, opens "The University Museum Goes Downtown" this week with a free, public reception on Friday from 6 to 8 p.m. The exhibit runs through May 4. The show features 20th and 21st century paintings and drawings from the permanent collection of the University Museum at Indiana University of Pennsylvania.
For more information, go to www.theartistshandgallery.com.
The Historical Society of the Blairsville Area, 116 E. Campbell St., presents "All Dolled Up" through June 29, an exhibit of dolls. Museum hours are 10 a.m. to 2 p.m. Tuesday through Saturday.
For more information, call (724) 459-0580 or go to www.blairsvillehistoric.com.
The Indiana Art Association presents:
- Paintings by Heather Lipe, Alice O'Dell, Dayas Silvis and Heather Russell, on exhibit in The Artists Hand Gallery, 732 Philadelphia St., Indiana.
- Thirty art works by Heather Russell are on exhibit in the Urgi Care facility at Indiana Regional Medical Center.
- A display of members' works at Indiana Ambulatory Surgical Center, 841 Hospital Road, White Township.
- "Life is a Puzzle," a series of mosaics by international artist Jerry McClure is on display weekdays from 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. at the Calvary Presbyterian Church's Chalice Room, 695 Church St. Visitors are asked to use the School Street entrance and check in at the downstairs office.
For more information, call (724) 910-1871 or go to www.indianapaartassociation.org.
The Indiana County Historical Museum, 621 Wayne Ave., Indiana, presents the following programs:
- Early cleaning methods, an exhibit focused on antique sweepers, vacuum cleaners and their predecessor, the rug beater.
- "Celebrating 100 Years of Girl Scouting," an exhibit of uniforms, badges and other Girl Scout memorabilia.
- 150th anniversary of the Civil War display, a look at the soldiers and civilians affected by the War Between the States.
- "The One Room School House in Indiana County," photographs and artifacts documenting the county's early schools.
- Continuous exhibits detailing the history of Indiana County, including the county's history of coal mining, Native Americans and military personnel.
Museum hours are 9 a.m. to 4 p.m. Tuesday through Friday and 10 a.m. to 3 p.m. Saturday. Closed Sunday and Monday. For information, call (724) 463-9600.
Kipp Gallery in Indiana University of Pennsylvania's Sprowls Hall presents Bradley Triana's MFA Thesis Exhibition "Generation Why" Monday through April 19. An opening reception will be held from 5 to 8 p.m. on Monday.
For more information, call (724) 357-2787 or go to www.iup.edu/livelyarts.
The University Museum in Sutton Hall at IUP presents "Spectrum: Annual Graduate Art Exhibit," through May 18.
Museum hours are 2 to 6:30 p.m. Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Fridays, noon to 7:30 p.m. Thursdays, and noon to 4 p.m. Saturday. For more information, call (724) 357-2787 or go to www.iup.edu/livelyarts.
Mountainview Square Dance Club hosts round and square dancing at 7:30 p.m. Fridays in the Blairsville High School cafeteria. Couples and singles who do modern western square dancing are welcome.
For more information, call (724) 465-2753 or go to www.mountainviewsquares.com.
Thunderbolts Square Dance Club sponsors A-1 and A-2 dancing at 7 p.m. Tuesdays in the Blairsville High School cafeteria. Couples and singles who do advanced dancing are welcome. For more information, call (724) 388-1909.
The Lively Arts at IUP presents:
- Seth Rudetsky, 8 p.m. May 6, Gorell Recital Hall, Sutton Hall, IUP.
- An Opera Gala, 8 p.m. May 10, Fisher Auditorium.
For more information, call (724) 357-2787 or go to www.iup.edu/livelyarts.
The Jimmy Stewart Museum will present the following matinees at 1 p.m. in the third-floor theater:
- Saturday and Sunday: "Cheyenne Autumn," a 1964 production starring Stewart, Carroll Baker and Richard Widmark. John Ford's last Western, it portrays a Cheyenne Indian tribe's eventful journey back to its original settlement after being relocated by the government.
- April 20-21: "Dear Brigitte," a 1965 production starring Stewart, Billy Mumy and Glynis Johns, tells the story of an 8-year-old genius with a crush on Brigitte Bardot.
- April 27-28: "Shenandoah," a 1965 production starring Stewart, Patrick Wayne and Katharine Ross. "Shenandoah" tells the saga of a Virginia widower indifferent to the War Between the States until his family is involved.
Museum admission: members, free; adults, $7; seniors, military, students with ID, $6; children 7 to 17, $5; children under 7, free. Prices are subject to change without notice. Movies are included with admission to the museum, which is currently hosting the special exhibit "Selections from our Collections."
For more information, call (724) 349-6112 or go to www.jimmy.org.
The Indiana Players will present "Play it Again, Sam" at the Philadelphia Street Playhouse, 725 Philadelphia St. The show starts at 7:30 p.m. April 26 and 27 and 2:30 p.m. April 28.
For more information, call (724) 464-0725 or go to www.indianaplayers.com.
The Lively Arts at IUP presents:
- "Hair: The American Tribal Love-Rock Musical," 8 p.m. Sunday, Fisher Auditorium.
- "Temptation of the Muses," 8 p.m. April 25, Fisher Auditorium.
For more information, call (724) 357-2787 or go to www.iup.edu/livelyarts.
Harmony High School presents "Seussical," at 7 p.m. Friday and Saturday and 2 p.m. Sunday in the high school auditorium. General admission tickets are $5 and will be available at the door.


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The movement of information is key to today's global economy. Companies like General Electric send their design concepts to countries like India, allowing developers there to localize products to suit the domestic market. Firms like Intercontinental Hotel Group create customer communities to gather input from customers to fashion new services. Businesses like handheld device manufacturer Psion (recently acquired by Motorola) build social platforms to connect their partners to their customers in order to formulate new solutions. And prospective customers tap into social media like Facebook and Twitter to gather information and express ideas, which we see has the power to alter the course of companies as well as countries. In this environment, a successful company's competitive advantage comes in part from its ability to grow an information advantage -- the ability to share, process, and act upon information more rapidly than the competition.


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Edie Loeb Tomasko dies, leaves UpReach Therapeutic Riding Center legacy
UpReach Therapeutic Riding Center in Goffstown is a living legacy for Edie Loeb Tomasko, who died Monday at the age of 57.
Founded in 1992 with two volunteers and a borrowed horse, the center has grown "to serve 75-80 students in varied programming, with 14 equine partners, four full-time and four part-time staff, and over 120 active volunteers," according to the UpReach website.
Executive Director Karen Kersting said Tomasko's mother, Nackey S. Loeb, had suffered partial paralysis in an auto accident. Tomasko thought perhaps riding would be beneficial. Although her mother didn't take advantage, Kersting said Tomasko kept exploring riding "as a way to health, both physically and mentally."
Tomasko's idea has made a world of difference for many people in the area, including Clecia Terrio's daughter, Jordana, 18, who has been riding at UpReach center for eight years.
At first, Terrio said: "It was instead of therapy, to give strength to her leg." Jordana had a loose patella, said Terrio. Then Jordana got leukemia. After two months in the hospital, said Terrio, her daughter was in a wheelchair: "She couldn't lift her arm."
But after returning to UpReach, Terrio said, "It was amazing how fast she was walking."
It's mental as well as physical, Terrio said. "It's amazing what they do."
Bill Boynton, public information officer for the New Hampshire Department of Transportation, said his daughter, Lauren, participated in the program in the early years, in the mid-1990s. "I was impressed with how committed (Edie) was," said Boynton, who also served on the board of UpReach for a time.
Boynton said his daughter has cerebral palsy ataxia, which affected her balance and necessitated using crutches, so riding was beneficial.
"You're forced to use your legs," he said, and it made a big difference for his daughter. She couldn't participate in typical child sports, but she could ride. "There's also the personal benefit," he said. "This was something she could do."
Back then, said Boynton, the benefits of riding and caring for horses were mostly anecdotal. Now, they are recognized and the UpReach center is the only one in the area that's not an adjunct program.
Kersting, who has been at UpReach for about 16 years, said: "We are one of the few therapeutic riding programs that aren't part of something else."
In recent years, said Kersting, she'd had little direct contact with Tomasko. After her move to Montana, it was mostly email contact and letters, Kersting said.
After the death of her mother, Tomasko facilitated the transfer of the entire 96-acre property, including her mother's house, to the center in 2002.
Tomasko, with her sister, Nackey Scagliotti, also followed through on their mother's dream of establishing the Nackey S. Loeb School of Communications.
David Tirrell-Wysocki, the executive director of the school, said Tomasko and her sister helped guide the school during its formative years. As a result, he said: "Students of all ages have learned about the First Amendment and communications.
"That's a wonderful part of Edie's legacy," he said.
Union Leader Publisher Joseph McQuaid said Edie and her sister were instrumental in seeing their mother's wishes were carried out in leaving her newspaper stock to the school. "It is why the Union Leader remains an independent newspaper to this day," McQuaid said.
"The Union Leader family and my own family are saddened by Edie's death. She was a beautiful, caring woman who contributed a great deal to making the world a better place," McQuaid said.


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Oh, the Naval inventory guys are on to ya now
Very nice gun
I acquired this beautiful Navy along with all equipment listed in the receipt several years ago from Lt. Bush's family in Seattle..
Lt. Bush was the Communications Officer aboard the USS MINNESOTA, and went to Russia in 1919 with the AEF after WW I. The grip inlay was done in the Phillipines in 1922..
Oh, the Naval inventory guys are on to ya now
Very nice gun
Mr. John, That's a very nice piece of hardware you've there... A Classic
You have some really nice guns. Thanks for posting them.
Here is how I display the Bush Navy along with a Pearl Harbor survivor. I love guns that tell a story!!!!
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Wow that's really nice
Nice display, do you have any close ups of it?
Here are a couple of closer photos...If anyone need anymore photos, just ask...
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That is a beautiful job!! If it ever needs a good home....


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|alright... thanks, who woulda thought my bordness causes so much of a problem?
[quote]Originally posted by stonedchihuahua:
Okay I just worked out the real car by multiplying all sides by 18 if it were a solid block of steel. Now it works out to over 23 000 lbs. Maybe I'm just dumb

You are in the right track here. The model is 1/18 scale which means it is 18 times smaller than the prototype in three dimensions. The linear dimension conversion in any one direction is 18. However, the volume (weight too) conversion is 18x18x18 = 5832.
The problem with you trying to scale the model up to full size comes with your assumption that the model is an exact scale copy of the real car. The model is actually far too heavy to be an exact replica. The body metal on the model is probably at least twice as thick as the real car's sheet metal when it should be 1/18th as thick (remember, the effect is cubed!). However, this is impossible to scale correctly since that would make the model body 0.12"/18 =0.0067", like extra-heavy aluminum foil. Likewise, the solid tires are probably many times heavier in scale than the real pneumatic tires would be. Your assumption that the scale plastic parts on the model are lighter than the steel components is wrong also. Plastic is less dense than steel and thus lighter IF the two components have the same amount of material in them. The model has many times more plastic in scale terms in it's components than the full sized car has steel.
You should be looking at the problem in reverse - ask, "how much should an exact scale model weigh?" Assuming your real car weighs 3000#, then a 1/18 scale model would weigh 3000#/5832 = 0.56#(half a pound)! A model of a real 50# tire should weigh 0.0085# or 3/8 ounce. The model tires probably weigh in at 5 or 6 ounces. Rather than being too heavy to lift, an EXACT scale model would seem feather light.
There are professional engineers who make a career of finding ways to scale down real world problems to run physical experiments on them. Have you have seen engineers doing physical model expeirments on model boats in a wave pool on shows on the Discovery Channel? EVERYTHING in those experiments must be scaled down, not just the overall dimensions of the ship. Viscosity of the water, density of the water, strength of the materials in the model, weight of the model, frequency of the waves, roughness of the surface finish on the model's hull, velocity of the ship, etc., etc., etc., must me scaled correctly. That is why digital computers are taking over this task since it has become MUCH easier to account for all of the physical parameters there than in a physical model chamber.
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|In fact there's another question for you...are you converting from pounds-mass or from pounds force??
Hey stoned.... in order to convert from pounds-mass to kilograms, you divide by 2.2 not multiply.
There are 2.2 lb-m per kg
Do this take the 5 pounds of the model
divide 5 by 8.9 which is the spacific gravity of the metal on the model
now take .5618 times 7.9 which is the specific gravity of iron
take 4.438 by 16 length
take 71 times 16 width
take 1136 times 16
now you have 18176 take into consideration the seats, glass, plastic, rubber, and ect.. wont weight as much as iron, some parts on models are made thicker like body panels.plus i still think 5 pounds is to heavy I would it is probablt 1/2 that which brings you down to 9089 pounds. on top of that this formula only work exact on a cube. Not a irregular shape like a car, the closest way to determine that is to measure its volume by water emersion.
I did it by 16 you need to do it by 18
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|well what I did the second time was I took our dimensions and multiplied them by 18 each, then used that to find the size of the real car and then multiplied by the mass of steel. After that did the 2.2 to change to lbs from metric. :p I'm smart in a dumb way.
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|David I think we are going to have to talk to Mr. Halbert on this one not car guys
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|Ok that dosent make any sence, we know the car is lighter than if it was real, but the scale always stays the same were just saying the model would have to be extreamly heavy to match a real car, and this is impossable because the most heavy material on earth isnt that heavy.
stone the scale does not apply to the weight of the model just size. It is like saying that 1/4 inch equals 1 foot.not a nickel bag equals a kilo.thought I would put it a way you might understand.
you need to lay off the wacky weed.you are reading way to much into a simple thing.
|Okay I just worked out the real car by multiplying all sides by 18 if it were a solid block of steel. Now it works out to over 23 000 lbs. Maybe I'm just dumb
|uhh the model is one of those steel bodied ones. Still that is going to be an insanly heavy model. Yes we were bored but dammit where does all that weight come from.
|The scale refers to the size of the model not the weight. If it was the weight you would not be able to lift it.
Are you guys bored? For starters you won't multiply it by 18. If you do that then you are saying you just have 18 cars.
Take a cube for example. The cube is 1 pound and is 1 foot square. If you double it to 2 feet square how much does it weight.
8 pounds not 2. Why? To double the mass it will take 8 cubs length, width, and height.
Second 5 pounds sounds realy heavy for that model. The specific gravity of plastic is about 1, the specific gravity of iron is about7.9. Which means if you have 1 pound of plastic the exact same thing in iron would be 7.9 pounds.
and so forth
you need to find out what parts are what like glass, rubber, steel and cloth.
each of the plastic pieces will have different weights.
so just guessing on a calculator won't get you there.
okay we have the ccworked out to 2050 cc approx. Now with the density of cast iron at 7.15g per cc
14714grams would be the weight of a cast iron block the size of the model. So 14.7kgs approx multiplied by 2.2 to get lbs. And you get 32lbs of a cast iron block the size of the 1:18 model. Now multiply that by 18 and you get a car sized cast iron blcok that is 582lbs. Now this isn't close the the weight of the car. WTF???????????????? The world makes no sense
confusing question about cars and their weight
Okay I'm at shaun's (chevy thunder) house right now and he has a 1:18 scale model car of a chevelle at his house. So we figure this thing is about 5 lbs or less and if you mutliply that by 18 that would mean the real car weighs 90 lbs. So okay yes there is alot of plastic in it so we figured if you made it all outta metal it would be like at the most 30 lbs. Anyhow considering I have 25 lbs weights at my house that could be squished to the size of this car I thought that would be right and the whole thing wuold be solid steel. Well, wrong then the car would be 540lbs. We figured out the model car would have to be 194lbs to be the the 3500 lbs that a chevelle would weigh. Well I'm not even sure this is possible because if you have a solid steel block that weighs 194 lbs it is gunna be alot bigger than the 1:18 scale model. It seems to me that the scale isn't right, but then I took the car and but it side by side 18 times and it is about the right width to be a real chevell. What are we missing here, other than brains.
Oh yeah shaun just notified me the chevelle is bluish green (tourquist) if it makes any difference. Also it is an ss with a big block 396.
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Those who treat Jack Kerouac's quasi-autobiographical novel On the Road like Holy Scripture will be mostly delighted and slightly aggravated by director Walter Salles' movie adaptation while the rest of us will have those feelings in reverse.
Mostly, Kerouac fans will enjoy how Salles and screenwriter Jose Rivera (reteamed from "The Motorcycle Diaries") capture the disillusionment of its narrator and Kerouac stand-in, Sal Paradise (Sam Riley), and the magnetic charm of his handsome and omnisexual pal Dean Moriarty (Garrett Hedlund) as the two wander around the country sharing drinks, drugs and sometimes Dean's teen wife, Marylou (Kristen Stewart).
Fans may note a few of the book's characters have been omitted, to keep the movie around two hours. Nonfans may find Riley's Sal an emotional zero, while Hedlund's Dean comes off as a selfish loser.
Also, both actors are left in the dust by a fine array of supporting players, including Viggo Mortensen (playing Old Bull Lee, Kerouac's version of William Burroughs), Amy Adams (as Bull's unstable wife), Kirsten Dunst and Elisabeth Moss. Even Stewart, exuding more passion than in all five "Twilight" movies, registers more fully than the preening leads.
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STANFORD, Calif. -- Top-ranked Northwestern handled a challenging season-opening road test with relative ease Friday night, outscoring No. 6 Stanford 11-2 in the second half to secure an 18-6 victory at Cagan Stadium in California. Senior Shannon Smith and junior Erin Fitzgerald each posted hat tricks to lead a group of 12 Wildcat goal-scorers.
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"We didn't start out the way we wanted to defensively but I thought we really picked up in the second half," said head coach Kelly Amonte Hiller. "Stanford is a great team so it was important for us to create opportunities and we were able to do that and earn some free positions. It's a solid first step for everyone to see what they need to work on before next week."
Speaking strictly of the offensive play, both teams looked to be in mid-season form immediately from the opening draw. Just 32 seconds into its season, Northwestern held a 1-0 lead thanks to an unassisted goal by Taylor Thornton. Smith got on the board for the first time less than a minute later when she collected a loose ball in front of the cage and quickly pushed it home to make it 2-0.
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That remained the score into halftime, with Northwestern taking a 19-8 edge in shots into the break.
Just as she did in the first half, Thornton opened the second-half scoring, this time off the free position eight minutes into the stanza. Munoz kept the Cardinal within shouting distance with multiple saves off the 8-meter, but could not turn away freshman Brooks Lawler at the 16:54 mark as Lawler netted her first collegiate goal.
As Northwestern seized control of the game, Fitzgerald sandwiched two free position goals around a Jessica Russo that was set up by Smith behind the crease, setting the score at 13-5. Two underclassmen connected on NU's ensuing goal as sophomore Kate Macdonald finished a good look by Casey Bocklet to ice the game for the Wildcats with under five minutes to go.
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Regardless of their merit, some bills proposed in the General Assembly never receive serious discussion or consideration.
One overlooked measure from the 2010 legislative session has been refiled and deserves consideration and passage. It deals with state pensions for future legislators.
Elected state senators and representatives have an opportunity to reduce future obligations on a stressed state budget while setting an example of sacrifice. House Bill 54 was reintroduced in late October and assigned to an interim committee. It is scheduled to be introduced Jan. 5 to the House's State Government Committee when legislators reconvene.
It would eliminate access to the state retirement system for future legislators. In effect, the measure would recognize the part-time status of elected officials and erase their access to full-time benefits available to state workers and teachers.
When the 2005 legislature gave its members access to retirement systems designed for employees, it encouraged outgoing members to grab state jobs. Because the retirement obligation is based on the highest three years of an individual's pay, the state now has six-figure retirement obligations to these one-time part-timers.
House Bill 54 would create a defined contribution plan, similar to employer-matched 401k investments. The bill also clarifies that the plan would not create an inviolable contract with the state, allowing future modification.
Among the many pressures on Kentucky's governmental budget are retirement obligations owed to past employees and being accrued for current workers. Many private businesses have moved from traditional retirement obligations because of the inability to sustain such fiscal demands. While it may not legally be possible or ethical to erase previous commitments, the state must consider reducing adding to the financial pinch.
Before a penny can be spent on schools, roads or public safety, the state budget process must commit to obligations owed former employees. Court decisions require the General Assembly to account for retirement commitments first.
Hardin County could lead the charge. The four Republican legislators sponsoring the bill includes C.B. Embry Jr. and Tim Moore, who represent parts of Hardin County. Senator-elect Dennis Parrett also defined the topic as an issue of concern in his campaign.
The entire local legislative delegation is encouraged to review and consider this bill. In tight economic times, difficult decisions about compensation must be made. However, asking legislators to police their own chambers does not seem a difficult choice.
The General Assembly can set an example and take a step toward reasonableness.
But nothing is likely to happen without some noise from the voting public too. In conversations and calls, in letters and e-mails, voters need to direct their attention to this measure.
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Throughout the 17 April 1993 St Kilda vs Collingwood match at Victoria Park, Collingwood supporters hurled racist taunts at two Aboriginal St Kilda players. At the end of the game, with St Kilda victorious, midfielder Nicky Winmar lifted his guernsey and pointed proudly at his skin.
Nicky Winmar's 1993 AFL season jumper, which he was wearing when he made his famous stand against racism in sport.Image: Rodney StartSource: Museum Victoria
Photographs of this spontaneous gesture became a powerful symbol of Aboriginal pride and a statement about the problem of racism in sport. Historian Joy Damousi was in the audience at the match and reflected upon that moment on a May episode of ABC Radio National's 'Life Matters'.
This particular moment is really one of the most significant events in Australian cultural history...A simple material object that can encapsulate an era, a mood, a period, a turning point and Nicky Winmar's jumper does that beautifully...
Museum Victoria held a celebratory event at Bunjilaka Aboriginal Cultural Centre at Melbourne Museum this morning to announce our acquisition of Winmar's jumper. The year after the famous gesture, Winmar traded the jumper with his friend Tim O'Brien, a former basketballer for the NBL. O'Brien put the jumper up for sale in May this year with the proceeds planned to fund a documentary film about racism in sport. MV purchased it for display in Bunjilaka's forthcoming First Peoples exhibition, using funds reserved for acquiring important objects for the museum's collections.
After reflecting on Nicky's brave action on that momentous day in 1993, Bunjilaka Manager Caroline Martin, Museum Victoria CEO Dr Patrick Greene and Tim O'Brien unveiled the jumper together at the event this morning, much to the excitement of those gathered around.
L-R: Dr Patrick Greene, Tim O'Brien and Caroline Martin with Nicky Winmar's jumper this morning.Image: Rodney StartSource: Museum Victoria
"This jumper represents a proud moment in history for Australia's First Peoples," said Caroline Martin. "It symbolises pride and strength in our culture and we are delighted that future visitors to Bunjilaka will be able to commemorate the inspirational story behind this jumper, as we did today."
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The air is crisp and cutting this first Oathday of Pharast. The sun is only just winking at the surface of the earth as droves of would be adventures swarmed around the Hall of Swords. They had come to see the list.
The Writ of Charters
Be it so known that the bearers of these charters have been commissioned by the Swordlords of Restov as acting council for this city under the watchful eye of Lord Noleski Surtova, Regent of the Dragonscale Throne in the great nation of Brevoy. The following few have been chosen to fulfill a purpose disclosed specifically in their individual charters.
The Hooktongue Slough
Colonel Lars Norgen and the nineteenth legion
Inquisitor Gabriel Galden
High Potentate Ferrel Tajin and cabinet
The Nomen Heights
Swordlord Maegar Varn and the Red Dawn
The Glenebon Uplands
The Iron Wraits, commanded by Dof Stonefist
The Greenbelt
Thanatos Eternal
Dagoth, called the Savager
Nor Gexxa
As quickly as they'd come, the crowd files away. Whether it was to plan for a journey or, for those not chosen, back to cups and bed. Before long, three green adventures: strangers, stand gawking at their own luck before a piece of parchment in an empty courtyard on a cold Pharast morning.
|Thanatos Eternal
|Nor Gexxa
A bulky hobgoblin casts his beady red eyes over the other two. His face, and the exposed parts of his legs and arms are gnarled by heavy scarring. Despite the uncouth visage, he opens a toothy grin that seems to hide a jest.
"Well, it seems they don't want the likes of us working with the other groups. Suits me fine, so long as there is coin to be earned and blood to be spilled. I'm the Nor Gexxa on the lists, distinguished sellsword, and you are...?"
|Thanatos Eternal
The slightly crazed tiefling looks over "I'm Thanatos, and this is Nyx." He motions to the skeleton standing next to him. The tall, skinny tiefling leans on his staff. "Just us 3 suits me fine. Won't have to explain myself to the rest of them. Hope you don't mind my little quirks. Seems a lot of people don't like my having Nyx."
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The look of shock arose on Dagoth's face, and Orc chosen to map and secure the Greenbelt. "Aye, I am Dagoth the Savager. Tonight we should aim to be on the march. Does anyone have anything of pressing concern?" He gave the others a look of part eagerness and an equal part statuest anger.
|Nor Gexxa
Nor lets out a guffaw, "Thanatos, I make corpses of men, I do not mind Nyx at all, so long he doesn't come shuffling after me. Savager, eh? We just may get along. I came to the lists ready to leave immediately. Shall we embark now? We have most of the day left."
He hefts the pack higher onto his shoulders, and adjusts the falchion across his back to make for an easier draw in the future. The mocking grin returns to his face, and he looks expectantly to Thanatos, then the Savager. "Shall we?"
|Thanatos Eternal
|Dagoth the Savager
Dagoth motioned with a his hand and then began walking at a brisk pace out of the city. After a quick wave a hawk flew in and perched on Dagoth's shoulder. The bird's talons pronged at first, and the orcs face tinged. But between the leather and his thick skin you could see that he could endure the pain that his close friend provided. "Good Gotha, meet my companions,"he gave a slight gesture to the new faces Gotha hadn't seen before. Dagoth had two greataxes that mirrored each other tightly on his back, and often when he was in thought he would put one arm up and feel the leather straps that made the axes grip. "The hob is Nor and the half-demon is Than,he paused for a moment to see if his new founded companions were okay with his words. Then after he realized he didn't really care what they thought,"Best keep pace, our charter is a coveted thing."
As soon as Dagoth got the open road he grabbed his bow that rested on top of his axes and readied himself for the chance of combat.
|Thanatos Eternal
|Dagoth the Savager
"Hearing tends to be an issue with Gotha, it's best to keep your names short to her."He glanced at his bird wondering if she could understand, but she stared back into Dagoth. It was clear after the orc had looked away that Gotha had one the first round of their power plays. With a heartless voice,"Again my apologies Thanatos."
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"The hob is Nor! The hob is Nor! Hey nonnie-nonnie, blood and gore!"
Maniacally snickering behind his teeth, Nor's skipping feet catch up with the other two and their pets.
"The charter mentions the exploration beginning south of an Oleg's Trading Post. We ought to find that place first, methinks."
|Dagoth the Savager
Stoically Dagoth forms his response,"I agree, I figure we'll make our way into that direction and the locals will be sure to guide us further. By chance either of you great with maps, or to that note have a map?"Dagoth pauses realizing he just might be mapless. I knew it was in this direction, RIGHT?
OOC: Is where we are going common knowledge or would traveling require a guide of some kind?
You can get to Oleg's easily enough. From there, you have to make the map. That's what you're there to do.
The morning air is crisp and biting as the three leave the yard. Travel this first day is easy as the roads are wide and good. Moreover, your fellow travelers are leery and yield the road at nearly every passing.
A little while after sunrise on the third morning, a voice calls out from the road. It is a thin and shrill, disembodied voice.
"Back blight bringers and defiler of forests. You continue at your own peril! The Sisters of the Green will not hesitate to end your evil here if you do not heed this warning!"
If you want to talk, fine. If you take hostile action, include and Initiative roll.
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|Nor Gexxa
|Thanatos Eternal
Thanatos smirked. "Who are you who claims you can see into our souls? On whose authority are you doing this? We've been given a charter by the Sword Lords. Stand down or you face the authority given to us by the watchers if these lands." He scanned the road.
Perception from me 1d20 + 5 ⇒ (12) + 5 = 17 Perception from Skeleton 1d20 + 0 ⇒ (15) + 0 = 15
|Dagoth the Savager
"Seriously your trifling efforts to hold us back are futile, witch." He paused gleaming into the forest. "Show yourself for we may have words, or do not and ambush me. My axe is longing for some bandit blood." With another one of his shrug Gotha left Dagoth's shoulder and flew into the trees searching for the voice. Dagoth pulled his axe and sheathed his bow, "I am no more evil then the lion that kills its prey, nor the elf that hides in the trees scaring and attacking weary travelers. YOU ARE SCUM FEAR ME" Dagotha lets out a roar that is palpable from just the air.
Perception Dagoth=1d20 + 5 ⇒ (20) + 5 = 25 Gotha=1d20 + 6 ⇒ (7) + 6 = 13
Bluff-1d20 + 6 ⇒ (3) + 6 = 9 Intimidate-1d20 + 5 ⇒ (15) + 5 = 20
PC Initiative
1d20 + 3 ⇒ (8) + 3 = 11
1d20 + 1 ⇒ (15) + 1 = 16
1d20 + 4 ⇒ (3) + 4 = 7
Average= 11.33
Sisters of the Green Initiative
1d20 + 4 ⇒ (11) + 4 = 15
1d20 + 4 ⇒ (1) + 4 = 5
1d20 + 4 ⇒ (8) + 4 = 12
1d20 + 4 ⇒ (11) + 4 = 15
Average= 11.75
The PCs are unable to determine the location of these "sisters"
"You were warned and now you'll pay!"
Suddenly, four figures appear in mid air forty feet from you. No bigger than house cats, their lower bodies are those of a grasshopper while their torsos are those of lovely women.
One speaks a series of words in a language you don't know. At once the plants and roots for forty feet in every direction of you lash out at your limbs: attempting to hold you in place.
Dagoth Reflex Save 1d20 + 5 ⇒ (8) + 5 = 13
Thanatos Reflex Save 1d20 + 2 ⇒ (20) + 2 = 22
Nor Reflex Save 1d20 + 4 ⇒ (18) + 4 = 22
You are all able to resist the plants' hold. The area is now difficult terrain You can only move half speed.
The other three sisters fire longbows at you.
Attack against Dagoth 1d20 + 6 ⇒ (2) + 6 = 8
Attack against Thanatos 1d20 + 6 ⇒ (13) + 6 = 19
Attack against Nor 1d20 + 6 ⇒ (1) + 6 = 7
Only Thanatos is struck. Take 1 point of damage.
PCs go now.
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Thanatos grits his teeth. "You would DARE?!" he growls as he trudges through the plant life as he flicks his wrist and the staff he's holding sprouts a scythe blade.
At his mental command, Nyx proceeds forward, scimitar drawn.
"You'll be the next ones I offer up to my Queen." Thanatos focuses for just a second, and sends a wave of dark energy crashing into the creatures.
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|Dagoth the Savager
Dagoth drops his axe and grabs his bow as quick as he can. "Pesk Brats!" he yells. His Hawk being not called out to does not engage but moves quickly down the treeline. Gotha hides in the trees out of sight. Dagoth finally releases an arrow.
Free Action- Drop Axe / Move Action- Equip Bow / Standard Action-Attack *Arrow(+4)+dazzled(-1) -1d20 + 3 ⇒ (10) + 3 = 13*
|Nor Gexxa
Nor shouts something unintelligible as his fury rages against the four airborne foes. He charges forward ten feet (read: moving within range increment), while jerking a javelin from his pack. At his final step, he hurls it at the nearest archer.
Attack 1d20 + 0 ⇒ (6) + 0 = 6 Damage 1d6 + 8 ⇒ (6) + 8 = 14
|Thanatos Eternal
|Dagoth the Savager
|Dagoth the Savager
|Nor Gexxa
Miss chance for Dagoth 1d100 ⇒ 72
The arrow is wide and neither bird nor Orc can discover their quarry.
Nor's anger is indeed terrible to behold, but alas, there is no sign as to whether or not he has effected the creatures.
A wave of dark energies ripple forth from his unholy symbol, but it is unclear what effect, if any, it had on the creatures.
After a time, it is clear that the Sisters of the Green are not attacking anymore.
Dropping combat. What do you do now?
|Thanatos Eternal
|Dagoth the Savager
|Nor Gexxa
Nor visibly calms down, though the sudden anger leaves his chest heaving deep breaths. After a moment, he runs to retrieve the errant javelin. On his way back to the group, he tries to recall if he had seen creatures like these before. Knowledge Nature 1d20 + 5 ⇒ (20) + 5 = 25
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|Dagoth the Savager
|Thanatos Eternal
|Nor Gexxa
In the early morning on the seventh day since leaving Restov, you see the first sign of any civilization: Oleg's trading post.
The gate is open to your approach and Oleg can be seen mending the roof above area A3. He sees you and waves half-heartedly.
Before long, the door at A6 opens and a kind looking woman rushes toward you. As she gets closer, her step become less exuberant.
"Are you it then?" She asks hesitantly.
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The woman sighs. Her face suddenly looks older, like all the cares of a a hard life materialized at once. After a moment, she smiles weakly and shrugs.
"I'm sorry to be so rude. I am Mrs. Leventon, Oleg's wife. You may call me Svetlana."
"I ask because the lords of Restov promised us a small garrison to defend the trading post. I guess it doesn't matter now..." a shadow passes behind her eyes.
Svetlana shakes her head and smiles again. "Please, stay the night if you wish, but I fear you will want to be gone before first light to avoid any unpleasantness."
She beckons you all to follow and walks to the board in the yard and motions for you all to sit.


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Aggresive behavior from my GSD
Hank is almost two years old. He has completed two training sessions for obedience and does everything we ask him to do most of the time if treats are involved. In a group of people he is wonderful, excellent around kids, has no problem with people getting right in his face. But, at times at home he plays rough (he wants to do this a lot). He wants to jump and bite (not a hard bite, but it still hurts) at us when we are just walking through the house. Going to leave the house he will bite at our shoes and keep ahold of them until we shake him off. My wife doesn't want to be alone in the house with him when he acts like this. Hanks around 100 lbs and can easily knock her down while thinking he's playing. We have seen and heard several bits of info on how to deal with this but it doesn't seem to help when the theory is applied to reality (Pinning, ignoring, re-directing attention). Need some advice on what may work or help to resolve this issue.
Does he spend a lot of time alone? How much exercise is he getting? Regardless of which methods you use, amping up his exercise is going to help. GSDs are high maintenance as far as time and attention and EXERCISE. Persistence and consistency are also necessary in redirecting/correcting unwanted behavior, and this means from all members of the household. This does not sound like a BAD dog, but one who needs LOTS of exercise and work to take the edge off his playfulness. Part of that exercise can be playing--with a soft frisbee, ball, tug... You also must exercise his brain as well as his body. These are the responsibilities of sharing your home with a smart, thinking canine. If she is willing, your wife should be a part of these things.
He is two years old and has only been to two classes? Or did you mean he completed the entire course twice? He needs a job and lots of exercise. The biting the shoes when you leave is not as cute when he is two as it was when he was 12 weeks old is it? I would institute NILIF right away and continue the obedience classes. Maybe look into Rally if you want a fun obedience sport, or agility (which takes a bit more equipment to practice). Anything active where the dog looks to you for direction in order to keep doing the fun stuff is good. Some dogs, like mine, would rather work than play with a ball. She will work for a good half hour with her tail wagging but will only chase the ball a few times before losing interest. On walks she is always happy to be out. Any exercise that includes you and/or your wife with your dog is good.
So nobody's going to tell him to quit "pinning' the dog?
I would most definitely take him and yourself to obedience training. This sort of behaviour where they are jumping up on you and biting may be fine as a puppy where they are learning right and wrong and playtime, but you should have stopped this behaviour then. As an adult male, I would imagine it is not much fun having him jump up and lunge at you.
Try obedience training, make sure he is well exercised and reprimand him from now on. Be consistent, don't allow him even once to do this. You may even have to keep a lead on him in the house so that you can easily take control and train him to heel and not to jump up on you.
Thank you for your comments. When I said he completed two training sessions, it was two complete obedience courses. A basic class and an intermediate class. He was the model student. He will still do everything he learned when we take him by the training location for a visit. My wife does share an active part in spending time with Hank, however when he gets worked up he can be overpowering. I do have a 2 acres fenced for him to play and we do go through lots of toys and we do take him to the local stores that allow dogs inside (although mostly on the weekend. I looked into Rally, wasnt quite sure what that was. This does look promising and there may be stuff I can do indoors. At times it's hard to get him out doors everyday in the winter for exercise since everyone in the house either works or has school. Sounds like he may just be getting bored in the house and wants something different to do. Again, I do appreciate the comments.
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Something to think about too is herding instinct.. not a clue if that is this situation.. but the not wanting you leave the house was definitely a light to me on herding. I had a boarder collie/lab mix that was like this. Anyone we talked to instantly said herding.
And yes, ramp up his exercise.. will help with calming him in the house.
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If he isn't engaged with you while out and about, I would start there, working on "watch," or whatever you use for focus. You can be random and unpredictable when on walks to teach him to pay attention. Once you have good engagement, the distractions mean less to the dog, and you can retain control through OB commands if necessary.
Getting the dog in the habit of paying attention to you and looking to you for guidance is the goal of these exercises. You need to be interesting and unpredictable without jabbering constantly at the dog. Use movement and random reinforcement to accomplish this.
As far as the bad behavior at home, it is something you shouldn't have allowed in the first place. I only say that so you understand, and so others reading this will understand, not to demean you in any way. I know you are doing your best.
First, I would manage the behavior in the house with a leash or drag line in the house at all times. If he begins jumping, you can step on the leash to control the dog instead of engaging him physically, which he might see as play.
I would also show him what behavior is rewarding, and which behavior is not. Work him inside with some treats or a toy held at chest level, so he knows they are there. When he jumps up, you say "nope" and break the engagement with the dog, putting the reward behind your back. The dog needs to see that when he jumps, the game stops and the rewards go away. If he is too big or excited to do this, have another person restrain him with the leash while you leave the room. If he sits instead of jumping, BAM, he gets a reward and the game continues.
You don't say if you are using corrections in training. If you are, you can pair a correction with the jump or mouthing. I think this training will probably work best with 2 people; one holding the leash behind the dog and one engaging the dog.
As Chip kind of alluded to earlier, pinning the dog isn't going to get you anywhere except amping the dog up further, or driving him into defense. Neither of these things is going to be productive in your training. I think your communication needs to be clear and concise, timed so the dog understands exactly what works to get the reward, and what causes failure.
I don't think that here you have a behavioral problem as such, you have a problem with young energy bursting out of him. He would rest on the settee and digest his dinner if he was tired. As far as I understand he is OK off leash. Think exercising him harder. "An obedient GSD is a tired GSD" - it was written in our club.
It would be wrong to define his behaviour as agressive. He simply demands yours and your wife's attention by biting you both, she can easily train him herself in your absence just knowing NILIF principles:
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Hello all, my name is stussy (german for "nonsense" although I don't have a bit of german in me I was given that name a long long time ago and it has sticked.
I live in Canada and have been a star wars fan since it all began. Boba Fett has to be the coolest bounty hunter of all time.
My goal here is to put together a life size Boba Fett in my "Game Room". The biggest problem I will have is finding things available to me in my small city. I don't have alot of resources at hand for finding alot of the materials needed to make the costume.
So with alot of reading on scratchbuilding and techniques, here I go. Or should I say, here I begin.


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Drake Jaden hits his favorite cruise spot and whips out his big cock knowing that a cocksucker will come along soon. Parker Perry sees Drake sitting there stroking and gets on his knees to worship his perfect cock. Parker can't keep his giant cock restrained any longer; he strips naked and mounts Drake to fuck his face. Drake swaps from deep-throating Parker's tool to licking his ass. He's ready to fuck the furry little stud - hard. Drake sticks his dick deep into Parker's ass and pounds him until he blows a thick load. As soon as he nuts, Drake's out of there, leaving Parker to jack off and shoot on his own.
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There's something dirty going down in the SOMA alleys of San Francisco in Cruise Control where 10 horny studs prowl in the shadows looking for sex. Testosterone levels shift into overdrive as superstars Matt Cole, Craig Reynolds, Rick Van Sant, and 7 other men head out into the summer night air aching to get their rocks off. In the tradition of Butch Alley and Reckless, Cruise Control is a relentless non-stop sex-a-thon with performances that are out-of-control.


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Joint Special Operations Commandoperating in the Ghost War Campaign
Terran military forces have extensive experience in conducting special warfare operations against each other but when the early battles with the Synod took place they lacked experience in orbital and deep space operations. During the lull in the general fighting for the last three years the Terran Joint Special Operations Command was formed and the world's special forces began the process of integrating into a single command. Unity of command and training as well as integration of personnel and equipment has allowed the JSOC to start mounting missions into Synod controlled space. With the last five years worth of experience in hand the JSOC have developed new weapons and armor with which to combat the enemies of Earth. Deep within the JSOC itself is an ultra-black program code named "Myrmidon" which takes quailifying candidates and performs highly experimental cybernetic and neural enhancement surgery. Speed, Strength and Dexterity are significantly enhanced and neural implants are embedded in the subjects brain giving them perfect recall and the ability to directly link with some computer systems. Program Myrmidon has also developed a suit of advance powered armor giving their already deadly soldiers even more speed, protection and firepower.
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"Goals are the fuel in the furnace of achievement."
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Ross Johnson has been the Information Technology Manager at Tuggerah Lakes Secondary College Tumbi Umbi Campus on the New South Wales Central Coast for seven years. He is an avid supporter of the NSW DEC Digital Revolution 1:1 laptop program and has transformed his school's technology focus and energies towards giving all students equal access and opportunity to develop their 21st Century digital skills.
Ross introduced the Photography & Digital Media elective to involve the students in the emerging technology of digital imagemaking, Adobe Photoshop, and digital art creation. A number of former students from this course are now working as photography professionals. He has also pointed his school's technology education focus towards global recognition and certification to best prepare the students for entry into the marketplace.
It is his core belief that a digital, or paperless, classroom engages students and staff in using 21st Century Digital skills. An integral part of this is using the skills of a global network of technology savvy educators to best provide a dynamic learning environment for his learners.
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Cingrani with the bunt single to lead off the third.
Cingrani with the bunt single to lead off the third.
"I talked to an advance scout that told me if Joey Votto and Albert Pujols were on the same team he'd advise his team to do the unthinkable...pitch around Votto to get to Pujols." - Buster Olney, ESPN
How about that, sports fans!
LOL at Garza!
And Choo with a sacrifice bunt to get Cingrani to third.
You bunt Choo to get to Cozart???
Don't swing another bat....bunt, bunt, bunt Garza to the showers.
"This isnt stats vs scouts - this is stats and scouts working together, building an organization that blends the best of both worlds. This is the blueprint for how a baseball organization should be run. And, whether the baseball men of the 20th century like it or not, this is where baseball is going."---Dave Cameron, U.S.S. Mariner
Now do the squeeze.
Why bunt there? I hate it.
I hate Choo bunting there. Playing for one run against the Cubs is a sin against God and man.
"But I do know Joey's sister indirectly (or foster sister) and I have heard stories of Joey being into shopping, designer wear, fancy coffees, and pedicures."
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I don't follow the strategy to have Choo bunt. How does that make any sense with Cozart in the on deck circle?
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Griffin Enright Architects choreographed a series of simple moves that brought space, light, and architectural interest to this ordinary California home. The firm's work "totally subsumed a rather banal house and made it extraordinary," one judge observed.
Located on a steep hilltop overlooking Hollywood, the circa 1940s tract home had dark, chopped-up spaces and a poor indoor/outdoor connection, despite various renovations, says Margaret Griffin, AIA. She and partner John Enright, AIA, LEED AP, stripped the house, retaining reusable elements where possible; eliminated four walls on the ground floor; inserted a two-room addition; and pushed the staircase to the back. "The new location of the stair allowed us to seamlessly unify the five different levels of the house," Griffin explains.
Large sliding and folding doors open up the house to the front courtyard, and two large street-facing window boxes bring light to the second-floor master suite. The high-contrast palette of dark- and light-colored materials offered a means of "playing with spatial volume," she adds.
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principals in charge: Margaret Griffin, AIA, and John Enright, AIA, LEED AP, Griffin Enright Architects
project architect: Margaret Griffin, AIA; general contractor: Art Lopez, design plus construction (dcon), Los Angeles
landscape architect / interior designer: Margaret Griffin, AIA, Griffin Enright Architects
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Aliquot parts is an important element in the public land survey system (PLSS), also called the rectangular survey system, which was used to survey and divvy up land starting shortly after the Revolutionary War.
States with land surveyed under the PLSS, called Public Land States, are Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Florida, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Louisiana, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Mexico, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Ohio, Oregon, South Dakota, Utah, Washington, Wisconsin and Wyoming.
That's everything except the original 13 states, Maine, Vermont, West Virginia, Kentucky, Tennessee, Texas and Hawaii. (Parts of Ohio were surveyed with the old metes-and-bounds system, too.)
The PLSS established principal meridians—imaginary north-south lines—to serve as the starting point for surveying each 24x24-mile tract. A tract is divided into 16 townships; townships (23,040 acres) contain 36 sections, each 1 square mile (640 acres), like this:
A section could be split into halves, quarters or other parts. A description of your ancestor's subdivision on a land record might look like N½ SW¼, which you'd read as "the north half of the southwest quarter."
Here's an example of how land might be divided and described in aliquot parts:
This free FamilyTreeMagazine.com article has more information about the PLSS and the Bureau of Land Management's free federal land patent site.
One of the video sessions in Family Tree University's Summer 2011 Virtual Conference, Aug. 19-21, is Diana Crisman Smith's demo on platting your ancestors' properties using PLSS. Learn more about the conference and register here.
These classes start Aug. 1:
A refresher course on how FTU works: You download a lesson each week and work through it at your own pace, then practice your skills in an assignment you turn in to your instructor. You also can communicate with class members and the instructor via a private message board, or on-on-one with your instructor via e-mail.
Take this opportunity to save a few bucks, bust through some brick
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The Battle of Cold Harbor, May 31-June 12, 1864, was part of Ulysses S. Grant's Overland Campaign, during which Confederate troops defended Richmond with six miles of trenches.
I picked up a brochure and map at the small visitor center, then we drove the short park loop and walked a trail tracing over and around the remains of trenches soldiers dug 150 years ago. (My husband gets props for pushing Leo's stroller up and down the gravel path in Virginia humidity).
The ground looked like corduroy. Markers explained how for days soldiers would crouch in misery in the trenches. They dug "zig zags" between lines of trenches so they could retrieve supplies without getting their heads blown off. They would top the trench with a header log and shoot through a narrow gap below it.
This depression is a rifle pit occupied by a Union soldier. It was the closest position to enemy lines, just 50 yards from Confederate rifle pits.
Most fighting at Cold Harbor took place June 1-3, when Union forces launched assaults. They were unsuccessful. "I have always regretted that the last assault at Cold Harbor was ever made," Grant wrote in his memoirs. "No advantage whatever was gained to compensate for the heavy loss we sustained."
On June 3 alone, nearly 6,000 Union soldiers were killed or wounded, most in just an hour's time. Both sides' casualties over the two weeks totaled 16,000. A nearby creek was named Bloody Run. According to the brochure, Cold Harbor was the beginning of modern trench warfare, showing how trenches, supported by artillery, were practically impenetrable.
I have to admit that my eyes tend to glaze over when faced with a battlefield map full of lines and arrows. But standing in the places where soldiers took cover in trenches, hid in rifle pits and charged across fields opened a small window into the past and helped me understand what happened 150 years ago.
You can listen to a podcast tour of the Battle of Cold Harbor, with vivid battle descriptions, on the Civil War Traveler website.
See our slideshow of Civil War images on FamilyTreeMagazine.com here and get resources for researching Civil War ancestors here.
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The South used small, fast ships to try to slip past the Union Navy, and over the course of the war, five out of six blockade runners were successful in evading the blockade. But because of the runners' small size, drastically less cargo got into and out of the South.
The whole country experienced food shortages, but the blockade made things more severe in the South. Prices soared and people got creative about stretching foodstuffs. According to Life in Civil War America, some butchers even sold dressed rats. But in case you're eating this over lunch, these examples from the book of making do are easier to digest:
When salt was unavailable to use as a seasoning, things with a salty flavor could be used, such as a pinch of wood ashes or a wild plant called coltsfoot, and soldiers sometimes used a dash of gunpowder.
And ...
Chicory, acorns, beans, beets, bran, corn, cornmeal, cotton seeds, dandelion root, okra seeds, peanuts, peas, sugarcane seeds and wheat berries were variously parched, dried, browned or roasted and used to make ersatz coffee. Other versions used tubers like carrots or yams, which were cut into small pieces, dried, toasted ad then ground up.
Most researchers agree it's important to cite sources, but the hows, whens and wheres have caused a bit of a stir. Genealogy blog readers may notice what my mom and dad used to call a "discussion" over the importance of adhering to the finer points of source citation style (which might be intimidating to newbie or casual researchers) versus just getting the source information down.
Another component to the issue (and something else that can make source citation look complicated) is evaluating a source's reliability:
Is the information likely to be correct because the source—say, a birth certificate—was created when the birth, marriage or other event happened? Or is the source less reliable because it's a transcription of a digitized book written years later by someone who read a newspaper article about the grandson of the person whose neighbor was actually there? Do several less-reliable sources that provide consistent information equal a reliable source? Can you ever really prove when certain events happened in your ancestor's life? What does it all mean??
These folks weigh in with their opinions and encouragement:
Source citation doesn't have to be scary. The key is to note every bit of information available about the record, website, book, newspaper, person or other source you used, and make sure it doesn't get separated from the information the source provided. Whenever possible, get the original record rather than stopping when you find an index or a transcription.
Use your knowledge as a researcher to decide whether the information in the source makes sense, and how far you can trust that source. If you have any doubts, don't add the information to your tree, but use it to form a hypothesis you can keep researching.
Related resources:
And by "exactly," I mean "theoretically," because:
With that caveat, figuring out Leo's theoretical heritage combo involves first determining Mom's and Dad's percentages. Three of my husband's grandparents came from Germany and one from Hungary, so we'll estimate him at 75 percent German and 25 percent Hungarian. I'll go back to my great-grandparents' origins: I'm half German, a quarter Lebanese (the source for my last name), and one-eighth each English and Irish.
I just divided each of our percentages, added up the common German heritage, and came up with these numbers for Leo (I generated the pie chart online using Kids Zone):
He's pretty typical as far as American ancestry: In the 2000 census, German was the heritage most often claimed by Americans and by his fellow Cincinnatians. He also shares in the second- and fourth-most-commonly reported ancestries: Irish and English, respectively.
Download the Census Bureau's Ancestry: 2000 report as a PDF here.
What's your theoretical heritage combo?
Update: Apparently you can order a t-shirt boasting your ancestry pie chart from MeonaTee.com. Great idea! (Thanks to Megan Smolenyak for mentioning.)
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Zach - Thanks for your honesty about this. As someone said, you've recognized the wrong, and that is a HUGE first step. You've heard the gospel, and the Holy Spirit calls to ALL. You're beyond the age of grace, God gives us free-will to either accept, or reject, His calling. I'm an old man, still a sinner, but saved by grace! Every born-again believer was once in rebellion before the answered God's call, ALL of us. Son, I have studied eschatology (end-time Bible prophecy) for a few years now, and the rapture of the church is imminent, it could occur at any given moment in time. See 1 Thess. 4:13-18; 1 Cor. 15:51-52 and John 14:1-3 for starters. Jesus gave all the signs of His return in His Olivet Discourse in Matt. 24 - we are the generation to see all of them being fulflled - God is now brining an end to the Church Age, that 2,000 year period between Daniel's 69th & 70th Weeks - the 70th week is a/k/a the tribulation period which you will be in if you miss the pre-trib rapture. I'm just trying to lay iti out for you as it is, and I'm praying youo will come to the Lord, NOW. It's the biggest decision of everyone's life, and it has eternal consequences. Choose wisely.semohunter wrote:Hey guys, this isn't something I would normally do, but I need prayer bad. Currently have a lot of negative things going on in my life. I used to spend every Sunday and we'd night in church, then I went off to college and every things just gone down hill. I've finally came to terms that I started drinking and let it get way out of control, I have no where to really turn, I'm still trhingnto figure out how to tell my parents. So some prayers for strength would be greatly appreciated from you guy.
Thanks and God bless,
Slack Tide - either you believe the Bible is God's inerrant Word, or not. If you don't there's nothing I can do or say. Scripture no where refers to universal salvation, absolutelyd NONE; in fact, just the opposite. Want to know why Christianity is hated so? Read John 14:6 where Jesus said "I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man comeeth unto the Father, but by me" KJV. You either believe that, or you don't. Jesus is the ONLY way to Heaven. The New Age deception (which is nothing new at all, in fact, goes right back tothe original sin in tghe Garden) has one to believe in themselves. They are in total denial.Slack Tide wrote:Open Door-
Here's the thing....
I don't understand the suggestion that anyone who has not "given themselves to the Lord" is somehow on some point down the path to eternal damnation. You have all sorts of wonderful people from all kinds of faiths and cultures that don't believe in who/what you do, so, by your standards and definitions, they are doomed?
I am a 40 year old school teacher. I am accomplished, healthy, married to a wonderful woman who loves me, we have a great young son, a neat-clean home. Two cars that are paid off, good neighbors and wonderful hobbies, friends and family. We both drink and curse when we cut our finger or stub my toe (and when the Islanders lose!) and so what?
Alcoholics will tell you that it's not the quantity you drink that measures anything. If it's too much for you, it's too much and that can be one drink.
As for this kid, maybe he needs to go surfing to clear his head. Maybe he needs to go hunting and sit there and think about his new life and changed priorities. For some it's running, sailing, swimming and yes, for some it's church.
There's no need to continue this discussion. I'm not "imposing" my views, I'm merely quoting what God said - it's His views that count, not ours, and they are found in only one place, the Bible, which is why I rely on it alone, and not some personal opinion of how I would like it to be. Try reading the Bible with an open heart - you will find that it will read you - sorta takes one out of their own little comfort zone, doesn't it? Scripture says God can't lie, so His Word, alone, is truth. God bless you.Slack Tide wrote:Think of it like this.
The speed limit in Mexico is 50... I drive 70 and don't care because I'm not Mexican.
In China, you are allowed 1 child. I don't care, I'm not Chinese!
You are still imposing your beliefs on people who are outside of your belief system.
It's arrogant to imply that because others don't think what you think that they are screwed.
You should develop your ability to argue your point without running for the bible.
Just explain yourself in layman's terms and if you really want to help others discover, they will probably be more likely to follow rather than be provoked by the suggestion that "I know something that you don't know!"
All who wander are not lost........
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CH 456 Protein Structure and Function
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Offered: Fall 2007; every third fall thereafter
Prerequisite: CH 450, junior standing or instructor's permission.
An investigation of the structure of proteins enhanced by the use of computer software with three-dimensional images. The relationship between protein structure and function will be explored by studying enzymatic reaction mechanisms and kinetics.


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when... you do a Google image search for Christmas trees year round
when you think about winter and Christmas when it rains.
When it seems the magic slipped away...
We find it all again on Christmas Day.
*Seeing isn't believing.Believing is seeing.*
When you actually look forward to that first snow of the season
I'm Dreaming of a White Christmas
when you talk nothing but christmas at this time of year..
you want to give ten times as many gifts as you can afford
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Obama Responded Faster to Ebert's Death Than He Has to Thatcher's
(CNSNews.com) Hours after the BBC reported the death of conservative British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher on Monday, President Barack Obama still had not issued a statement on her passing.
But last week, within half an hour of film critic Roger Ebert's death, the White House tweeted a statement from the president.
As of 10:00 a.m. EDT on Monday, there was still silence from the White House on Thatcher's death, which the BBC tweeted at 4:49 a.m.
Last week, the Chicago Sun-time reported at 2:32 p.m. on April 4 that Ebert had died; The White House tweeted a statement from President Obama at 3:02 p.m.)