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With Arsenal fans and players still giddy from the 'double' success, the Club was dealt a hammer blow in July 1971 with the news that first team coach Don Howe wanted to leave the Gunners and take over as manager at his former club West Bromwich Albion.
History proves that the move suited neither club, and at Highbury, players were dismayed at the turn of events. "Don was really the architect behind our 'double' success," explained captain Frank McLintock, "and it never felt quite the same after he left."
In '71/72, the defending champions ended the campaign in fifth place, six points behind champions Derby County. They had the honour of playing in their first European Cup campaign, and defeated Stromgodset and Grasshoppers before losing to Ajax in the quarter-finals. Defeated 3-1 by Johan Cruyff's team on aggregate, the Gunners' only realistic shot at glory came in the FA Cup.
Swindon, Reading, Derby and Orient were edged out before Mee's men were once again paired against Stoke in the semi final. After drawing the first game 1-1 reserve goalkeeper Geoff Barnett, deputising for the injured Bob Wilson, helped see Arsenal through in the replay. The final against Leeds was a tight affair, and was settled when Allan Clarke scored after 53 minutes.
Alan Ball, Arsenal's record £220,000 signing from Everton, left Wembley emptyhanded, and Charlie George, whose heroics landed the 'double' the season before, crashed a shot against the underside of the bar in the dying seconds. It was a case of, 'what might have been?' and the Gunners had narrowly failed to recapture the glory of 12 months earlier.
Arsenal came close to claiming another League and Cup 'double' in '72/73, but ended up with nothing. They finished runners up to Liverpool after going seven matches unbeaten at the start of the campaign, and were always there or thereabouts at the top of the table. In February, they went to Anfield and beat Bill Shankly's men 2-0 on a cabbage patch pitch, but by now injuries and loss of form was starting to affect the team's progress.
Charlie George, by now rarely seeing eye to eye with Mee, was in and out of the team, and like Eddie Kelly was on and off the transfer list. John Radford and Ray Kennedy also had spells on the treatment table. With an eye to the future, Mee brought in Coventry central defender Jeff Blockley for £200,000 in October '72.
It may be unfair on Blockley, but many Arsenal players from the time claim this was Mee's biggest mistake, because it was clear that he was signed to replace McLintock in the not too distant future. "To us, Frank was still our leader, and an inspirational figure," explained full-back Bob McNab, "and Blockley coming in suggested that Frank's days were numbered. I don't know whether it was nerves, or what it was, but Blockley was never good enough for Arsenal."
In December 1972, George Graham departed to Manchester United for £120,000 ("He's like Gunter Netzer," claimed United boss Tommy Docherty). Yet for all the unease, the Gunners did come so close...
Only three points separated them from Liverpool at the end of the season, and going into the FA Cup Semi-Final against Second Division Sunderland at Hillsborough, Mee's men must have been confident that they were on for a third consecutive FA Cup Final. But with a nervous looking Blockley replacing the injured McLintock, this was the Mackems' day, and goals from Vic Halom and Billy Hughes took Bob Stokoe's men to Wembley. Charlie George's late effort counted for nothing. It was to be a pivotal moment – for all the wrong reasons – in Arsenal's history, and in the close season, McLintock left for QPR.
Bertie Mee, who looked on as McLintock skippered QPR with great success over the next couple of years, confessed to having made a grave error of judgement (Blockley only stayed at Arsenal for 18 months), and Arsenal's fortunes began to slide. In '73/74, they began the season in fine style, by hammering Man United 3-0 at Highbury in front of over 50,000, but ended the season in tenth, some 20 points behind champions Leeds.
In the cups, the story was similarly depressing, as Tranmere won at Highbury in the League Cup, and Aston Villa saw off the Gunners in the FA Cup. On the bright side, there were several new faces emerging on the scene, including that of Liam Brady, who made his debut as a substitute in the match against Birmingham in October 1973, and Irish apprentices Frank Stapleton and David O'Leary continued to make strides in the youth team.
But for now, Gunners fans could be forgiven for wondering how the great 'double' side had failed to make even more of an impact in the early 1970s. Bob Wilson retired, and another key part of the jigsaw, Ray Kennedy, was allowed to depart to Liverpool. In so doing, he became Bill Shankly's last major signing for the Club.
Bertie Mee freshened up his forward line by signing Man United's Brian Kidd for £110,000 in the summer of 1974, but he and John Radford never effectively dovetailed, despite Kidd netting an excellent 19 goals in his first full season at Highbury in '74/75. In October of that season, Arsenal actually found themselves bottom, but Kidd's goal enabled the Gunners to pull clear, and eventually crawl into 16th place. It wasn't what the crowd had been used to, and attendances regularly crashed to around the 20,000 mark.
As well as gradually introducing the "London Irish" generation, Mee also spotted a bargain in QPR's Terry Mancini, whom he signed for just £20,000. "Ordinarily, I'd never have been considered an Arsenal player," admits Mancini, "but that was how things were going at the Club at the time. They needed players who were willing to get stuck in and fight for the Club."
The 1975 FA Cup competition appeared to offer salvation for the Gunners, but Second Division West Ham stunned Mee's men by winning 2-0 at Highbury, thanks to two Alan Taylor goals, and in the process Arsenal lost their first ever home FA Cup tie to a London club.
It was an unsettling and depressing experience after the heroics of just four years earlier, but Arsenal's guns would still be booming by the end of the decade.
- In September 1972, during Arsenal's 0-0 draw with Liverpool at Highbury, BBC commentator Jimmy Hill took over from the injured linesman
- Arsenal have only ever played one league game at Carlisle United, and it ended in a 2-1 defeat in December 1974
- Arsenal officially finished fourth in the FA Cup in 1973, after losing the third / fourth place play off to Wolves 2-1, with Brian Hornsby scoring the Gunners' only goal

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Just thinking, in the actual ESB movie, there doesn't seem to be the lone grey stud that attatched the cape in the Officialpics. Anyone agree? Would that make those pics kinda like the last final photo check of the suit they did before filming? Therefore any further differences between those pics and the movie would be very minor.
Just curious, but what colour are the studs in ROJ? :fettrotj I've been paying attention to the ESB suit more (since that's what I'll be attempting to paint). Are they grey/silver?
They are silver/grey on the ROTJ
Ahhhhhh! The PAIN!!!! You mutilated a Mac keyboard? :cry
Just kidding. Anyway, I recently noticed the red on the top of the studs too. I always assumed they were silver on ESB, but they look white from the new pics. the question is which ones are red topped, becuase they do not ALL look like they are red on top
It looks to me and I think this has been mentioned already, but there is only 1 red topped stud and it moves locations from shot to shot. My guess and only a guess is that the red one may have ORIGINALLY been intended to signify something, most likely a longer bolt to be used for the cape. But maybe it didn't make a big enough difference to bother and got moved around each time they bolted Jeremy into the costume.
Back to the original question at hand, I still say they are silver in those shots. If you want to argue that they are white simply because they look white in the pics and stills you could just as easily say that the color of the scratches on the helmet is white because they look white in the same pics and stills. I may be wrong and that's fine I'm making a ROTJ:SE anyway so it's not like I have to change anything if I am wrong LOL. It just doesn't seem to make any sense that they would be white, except for the white details on the gauntlets and the jet pack, maybe they were white to match those areas...now I'm starting to convense myself that it could make sense to be white, I don't know.
Great topic either way. Thanks for bringing it up Spidey! Oh what's with the "unseen" reference material you speak of?
Hmmm...now that you mention it, they do kinda look white to me!!!!! My question is, why the heck do they have an all grey one on there???
I still say white...;)
And in terms of unseen pics, that's with any Star Wars Character....there are plenty of pictures that have yet to be seen....unfortunate. But LFL is not obligated to release Every shot ever taken, yet it doesn't mean they haven't been seen;)...Although us Fett heads might want to see all of them.
And yeah, I agree...pretty good thread so far huh?:lol
That's a good question, and you definately pose a good argument for them being white. How long have you thought they were white?
Here's a question for you though, Since they were white for the supertrooper, why would they have painted them silver for the prepro then repaint them white for ESB only to paint them silver again for ROTJ. Assuming it's the same set wouldn't all those layers show through on that close up shot. I'm sure they would have had more than one set of them from all the supertroopers, but it makes for a good argument against them being white anyway.
Best topic I've been involved with for awhile LOL
After keeping up with the discussion and all the thoughts for and against them being white on the ESB, plus my own thoughts, it just seems if nothing else that it makes sense in logistical terms that they would be silver. As was mentioned for them to paint them back and forth between white/silver/white/silver from the Supertrooper - ROTJ it seems "unlikely".....that's the key word. The likelihood of it happening doesn't mean it didn't (painting them back and forth) just more "unlikely" that it did.:wacko:confused:wacko ....does that make sense for an argument for silver on ESB or what :lol
Silver on ESB is where I stand......
so if thoes are white what color is ROTJ shoulder studs
Great question...
I think a lot of ppl don't realize that if you really look. the ESB has a certan number of colors in total and the seem to stick to those ones.
For example the helmet and Jet Pack...
Each pretty much has the same colors.
Green,Red,Yellow,White,Black Silver.
so I don't think the idea of white studs is too far fetched.
I'm almost done my suit sooooo, I'll leave my Mac keys white..:D (w/a red top)
I can always paint'em if I don't like it... accuracy is what all Fett-head's strive for anyways.
Here's the tricky part, and something that most of you might not be on board with... There were more than one suit being produced AT THE SAME TIME once the Supertrooper concept was abandoned.... assuming that the Prepro #1 and #2 are the same suit is incorrect. PrePro #1; #3 and ESB are of the same suit (white shoulder studs). Pre Pro#2 and ROTJ are both the same as well, except they tried to match Boba to the Prepro#2 ref material (Silver studs) hense the repaint for Jedi......(also keep in mind that there are two Artists that painted the helmets too, hense the Sandy helmets prepro#2 and ROTJ, and Joe Johnston for ESB.)
That may be the simplest way of putting it but I think grouping them like that and knowing that there wasn't just one suit is probably an important part that's not being mentioned. So there really wasn't any going back and forth of repainting studs, until ROTJ...
Art feel free to comment if I'm off...I'm sure I'm not entirely correct..but more than one suit thing was my point.:thumbsup
Do we have good enough shots of prepro 1 and 3 to determine if the studs are silver or white? I don't remember seeing any. Do we know for sure that the same suit was repainted in that lineage of for the sake of argument supertrooper 1 -> prepro 1 -> prepro 3 -> ESB. There was what, 6 supertroopers to start with?
Like I said, I love history lessons, that's half the reason I'm arguing it, to learn something!
You pretty much said exactly what I would have said. There were 6 complete suits and the parts for the suits were never well defined and STILL aren't well defined. Pieces have floated back and forth from suit to suit over the years as well as during development. We often make broad sweeping statements like "The first supertrooper became the PP1 which became the PP3, which became the ESB Hero." While this statement is true in a broad and general sense, it may not be true for every single piece of the suit.
One of the themes we have come back to again and again and again over the years is that because we microanalize the details of the suits we tend to create these extravagent explanations for why certain things are done a certain way. However, the more we have learned the more we have come to find that usually whatever is the simplest, cheapest, and quickest answer is usually the correct answer.
In regard to the whole repainting of the shoulder studs, as Alex pointed out, there had to be at LEAST 6 sets of studs... meaning at minimum 32 studs. From what we have seen different suits were painted at different times, by different people, and a lot of the pieces were later repainted for other scenes/movies. It is unlikely that there was a conscious decision to change the colors of the studs as much as it just happened during the process.
Are the ESB studs white? I don't know, but I could easily buy it. The supertrooper studs were a gloss white, just like the rest of the suit and there is no reason why some of the studs might not have made it into ESB without being repainted. The PP1 appear to be silver or light grey. The PP2 seem to be silver painted over white. The PP3 appears to have one dark grey stud and the rest appear to be either white or silver, with one having the red top. As you can see... they are just all over the place.
As for the ESB studs... my personal opinion is that it changes... I know.. you didn't want to hear that, but in some scenes, I feel like I see the same silver/white mottling that is seen on the PP2, especially when Fett is in Slave 1. Just looks like they are silver and some of it has rubbed off on the edges. In a lot of scenes it is unfair to judge because of the harsh lighting coming from overhead and blowing out the studs, making them appear white. However, there are a few pics (mostly publicity photos) where they truly do appear to be solid white. Very very hard to say and I am not definitively convinced one way or another. I know that isn't what you guys wanted to hear, but I just don't have a solid answer... of course the answer could be that they changed throughout production and they may have simply grabbed up different studs at different times... who knows.
I see the dark grey stud in pics 2 and 3 spidey posted originally, but not in any of the others so I would definately buy that they used which ever ones were handy at the time with no reason at all. Not at all disapointed with your answer Art, thanks for throwing in your input.
Another shot, showing a chip that helps one see the paint layers.
WOW 32 studs???? wow.... begining to think that continuity wasn't much of a Priorty back then when dealing with Fett...:lol
Thanks Art for clarifying... bout time...really good info. though.
(sending Jeremy a new set of WHITE STUDS as we speak) ;)
Cool stuff Art! I was being too generalized in my Supertrooper - ROTJ....it's kinda where I was headed. I guess I never really thought about the smorgasboard of parts that were available to make the ESB suit by the time production was going on. The darker gray stud and the red topped right stud in the Lando/Trooper/Boba/Vader/Lobot scene really do indicate that was the case in the "grab bag" that was Fett back then:lol.
With the recent pics posted up by Alex:love, it gives hope to many more ESB discoveries being made.
......drat....now with the new pics and the studs in question, I may be onto a repaint sooner than I expected:lol....at least paint is cheap.
Viva' la' ESB!!!:fettesb:thumbsup
I originally wasn't even going to touch on this thread. It's an interesting theory, but in the end it's one that can never be proven without a doubt.
First I want to applaud Alex for what he's doing. We all need to look at Fett with fresh eyes. We all have our assumptions of what we think is going on with ESB; some ideas that have carried over from other versions of the suit, and some that have entered our subconscious from replica suits made over the years. We need to throw all that out the window to really figure out this version of the suit.
I agree that we should not just assume that the studs are silver. But let's not just assume that they are white because they look white in pictures. I've been doing a lot of color research on ESB, and picture are VERY misleading. Of the few known colors on the suit, they are several shades darker in real life than in pictures or stills.
In looking at all the pictures again with this thread in mind, I really have no answers. They could be white, silver, or even light grey. But the one thing that jumps out at me is that the shoulder studs appear flat. I can't seem to find any picture that shows them reflecting any kind of light. That to me opens up the option that they could be painted silver or aluminum, but just with a flat coat.
Since the real costume parts are either repainted, lost, or hidden away in the archives, the only way to figure out this puzzler is with a lot of tests. Shoulder studs painted in every possible variation, photographed under bright studio lights. But even then there might not be a definitive answer.
Again, great thread! I love the challenge of trying to figure out ESB Fett. And to close, here's my favorite quote about Fett from Joe Johnston:
"I painted Boba's outfit and tried to make it look like it was made of different pieces of armor. It was a symmetrical design, but I painted it in such a way that it looked like he had scavenged parts and had done some personalizing of his costume; he had little trophies hanging from his belt, and he had little braids of hair, almost like a collection of scalps"
And thats exactly what I'm trying to do....is to figure this costume out...ROTJ has all the reference in the world, but ESB until now is just not on the same level in terms reference....but I think we can change that with some of the photos that have been released and Facts we do know about.
I think you are 100% right on point, you can't say for an absolute fact that they are silver or white based on photos.... it's just impossible to do it that way.
I think DL Blaster said it best...it was a "smorgasboard" of parts by the time Fett hit the screen for ESB...:lol..and no one will ever really know for sure.
Great posts! I agree 100% that at this point there's no way to know without a shadow of doubt that they were one color or another. Photos definately aren't the best tool to judge color accurately, especially without a greyscale/grey card reference. The costume was painted to look like scavenged parts, and in some ways it kinda was scavenged missmatched parts from the various versions, especially the ROTJ and more so in the SE.
Where do we go from here?


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Sidecut radius is the radius your board would create if the curve of the edge was extended out into a complete circle. Smaller numbers for sidecut radius indicate a smaller circle. Imagine a smaller circle vs. a larger circle and laying your snowboard on edge to turn around that circle.
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The waist width is the width of the snowboard at its narrowest point. It is typically measured in millimeters. Narrow waist widths can be rolled from edge to edge faster than wider snowboards. Snowboards are designed to be ridden with your toes and heels very close to the edge of the board and waist width should correspond roughly with boot size.
Rocker in the tip and tail of your snowboard makes it easier to turn. Sometimes it is referred to as catch-free rocker because there is less of the snowboard edge to catch as you turn the board.
Waist width, sidecut radius and rocker are listed in the specs for each snowboard we sell. Here is an example:
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Are you new to shooting? Or new to these particular guns? If new to shooting, consider taking an NRA handgun safety course for starters. Then begin looking.
Assuming, you're not entirely new to handguns and have settled on 9mm semi-auto, here's my $0.02.
My first handgun was a Glock 19 Gen 4 purchased new about a year ago. I've been very happy with it, reliable, accurate, solid -- no issues. I have no experience with the other models you mentioned, but I believe they are highly regarded as well. I also believe they are all hammerless SA only (similar to the Glock design) so perhaps you've thought this through very carefully to zero-in on these.
If you're not tied to the hammerless SA only design, then I'd recommend you consider 3 other very proven, popular, and classic 9mm semi-auto guns; the CZ 75B (or 75B compact), the Browning HiPower, and the Beretta FS92 (or compact version). These are also regarded as accurate and reliable guns that have been around for a good while.
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At last! It's time to test drive. But before the rubber meets the road a burning question needs to be answered: "Once on the lot, just what is the salesperson going to ask me, and how should I answer?"
First off, always be honest with your answers, and above-board in all your dealings, and demand the same from all the dealership personnel. For example, if you find that the car is not equipped as you had specified, tell the salesperson, and say you'll only look at the model you requested. If they don't agree in short order, use those feet. Walk.
Remember, car salespeople are in the business of selling cars. They spend a lot of time with the customer qualifying them -- trying to figure out if you're a real buyer, what sort of buyer, and what it might take to get you to buy. They have all sorts of subtle cues and questions. Quite frankly, we think it is in the consumer's best interest to cut through the game-playing. If they haven't asked you within the first ten minutes on the lot if you're a buyer, go ahead and tell them. Don't forget your real mission here: to take the test drive so you can assess the feel and functionality of the vehicle.
Yep, be honest and tell them your plan. "I'm committed to buying a vehicle in the near future, probably the next ten days. I won't be buying today, but I want to see if this vehicle fits me. I have my selection narrowed down to a few vehicles, different makes, and this is one of them, so why don't you show me this car's features?" At this point the salesperson knows that you're not a looky-lu, and you mentioned that this make has competition, so selling the car's features takes precedent over the issue of money.
It generally takes the salesperson about 10 to 15 minutes to demonstrate a vehicle's features while parked. Don't drive until you've been shown everything at a standstill. Listen carefully to what they say, but don't take it as the gospel truth; many salespeople know their product well, but some don't know the first thing about their product line. We once had a salesman show us a button on the dashboard which he claimed was a rapid defrost feature, which turned out to be the air conditioning button!
During the "parked demo," ask a lot of questions, keep the salesperson focused on selling you the features, and have your Foolish Test Drive Checklist out and ready to jot down notes. Yes, you might look like Chaz the Spaz with your clipboard and pen, but don't worry about that. "Show me how I check the oil level. Is this an aluminum-block engine? This luggage rack, is it a dealer-installed option? How does the pass-through back seat work? Can I lock it? What about the spare? Is it a full-size tire? The jack, how does that thing work? How far can I go on a tank of gas? Is premium unleaded required, recommended?" The list goes on and on.
Often a salesperson will demonstrate a feature and look to you for an approving response. Note the feature; it may be something that the competition doesn't have. But never express any emotion above a pleasant acknowledgement of these features. For example:
Him: "Hey Foolish Car Buyer, look at how easy our heated driver seat controls are to use. We put them on the steering wheel so you don't have to fumble around and take your eyes off the road. How do you like that?"
You: "That's interesting. How about the separate climate control features -- how does that system work?" Not only have you shown little emotion for this "unique" feature, but you've maintained control of the demo by asking another question!
Once the parked demo is complete, the salesperson might ask you if you have any questions, or if you'd like to go for a spin. Try to maintain control of the negotiation: say something like, "Yes, a spin would be nice, but I'd like to get a price on my trade as well. Here are the keys. It's parked over there, can you do that for me?" (Incidentally, don't give 'em any more keys than they need -- keep your house, safety deposit, and post office box keys.)
This little change of pace will usually give you a few minutes alone while the salesperson rounds up the used lot manager to do the appraisal. Actually, you're doing several things that are to your advantage. Being present at the appraisal of your vehicle is not something that you want to do: shaking your head while the used car manager walks around your vehicle touching every blemish and scoffing won't increase the price of your vehicle one iota.
Instead, use the time to write down all the pertinent information. Get the VIN #, usually up under the windshield on the drivers side, take down the car's mileage from the odometer, and check the manufacture date on the inside of the driver's door. This information may come in handy down the road.
Next, go over to the sticker and write down everything on it. Some dealerships will give you a printout of this sticker. Go ahead and accept it, but still write down the information for yourself. Record the base model type and all the standard equipment that goes with that base. Then take down the installed options on the vehicle. Again this list can be long, and remember to included any option packages that may group several options together at a "lower" price. Put down all the options that the package contains, not just the package name. Precision here is key, so take your time, and if the salespeople seem to be annoyed with this, it's a good time to suggest a coffee run. Don't forget, the MSRP is a suggested price (that's what the S in the acronym stands for) so don't waste your time writing those prices down.
Finally the time has come, and you're taking the wheel to give Miss Daisy a ride! But wait -- the salesperson wants to have your driver's license. A number of experts advise not giving it to them, because they are just going to run a credit check. We say, so what? By this point you should have your choices narrowed down to ones that you can afford, so a credit check is basically harmless, and will tell the dealership that you are a reasonable prospect.Your driver's license also gives the dealers a little protection insurance-wise. They don't want the liability of you smashing up the demo and then finding out you had your license revoked six months earlier.
That said, give them the license, but only long enough to make a photocopy. Dealerships tend to misplace these like they do car keys. It can actually be great fun to make a photocopy beforehand and pass it to them when they ask for the license -- some of the expressions you'll get are absolutely priceless. By the way, don't give them your social security number, because that one isn't required for some time yet. Remember, you're only looking at a car; if they insist, walk, or say, "When I shop for shoes I don't need a SS# to try them on."
Test drives often begin with the salesperson behind the wheel. Use this to your advantage. Continue asking questions, turn the radio off, and most of all, remember that a new car test drive is very different from a used test drive. With this kind of testing you're not trying to put value on the vehicle or assess risk; instead, you're attempting to gauge fit, feel, and functionality.
In the driver's seat, pay close attention to how the car handles in various conditions. Does it feel comfortable? Are the controls easy to work, and easy to reach? Does the car accelerate well on the freeway on-ramp or is it sluggish, seeming to be powered by six gerbils rather than six cylinders? How about rough roads: does it have the smoothness you want? When changing lanes, do you have a large blind spot? Can you get the big beast in your garage? What about putting the two year-old in the child seat in back -- will this little routine break your back? Each driver's needs are different, and you need to make sure this vehicle fits your own.
Once you've returned to the dealership, your test drive mission complete, it is time to get outta Dodge. Get your current vehicle keys, a price on the current vehicle, and get out! Remember your promise, Fool: No Buying Today!
The salesperson is going to be taking some lashes from the sales manager if you're not converted into a buyer, so they will almost always attempt to get you into a bargaining cubicle. Don't go, or at least don't sit down. Keep looking at your watch, and muttering something about another appointment. Generally speaking, they don't want to let you walk at this point without some kind of offer, but don't give them anything. If they make an offer, chances are it is what is known in the biz as a lowball. That's an offer designed to get you back after you shop it around town and nobody else will meet it. Sounds great, but the problem is that they have no intention of selling you the car at that price.
There are a few things that you can get at this point that may help. Take each and every business card that passes before your eyes. If they make you a verbal offer, write the numbers on the back of the business card, then stick it in your pocket. In addition to the business cards, pick up every flyer, brochure, color chart, bumper sticker, videotape and other promotional material that's available for the model that you just test drove. The dealership itself may have some sort of manifesto on customer service and pricing. Take that as well; all this information can become useful at a later time.
Once in the safety of your old car, drive down the road a piece, find a convenience store, pull in and buy yourself a snack and a Big Gulp, and sit in your car and write up your impressions of the test drive. While the oven is still warm, begin to cook that vehicle that you're considering. Write down what you think of it. Bulletize your thoughts: "Steering sluggish. Back seat area comfortable and plush." If the salesperson or the dealership showed any attributes far above or below average, write those down as well.
Gather up all the worksheets, file them away, and get onto the next test drive. Once your "drives" are complete then move onto Step 8, where we'll put some hard numbers beside these dream machines. Until then stay Foolish, and whenever possible put the kids in the back, always in approved safety devices!


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James Gandolfini's death raising awareness about heart attacks
(Cleveland) - The news of actor James Gandolfini's death is shocking fans around the world.
Reports say the "Sopranos" star died of a sudden cardiac event in a hotel room in Italy.
Dr. Bruce Wilkoff is a cardiologist at Cleveland Clinic, and says your heart health depends on how well it's pumping blood.
He contends, the percentage of blood being pumped, has been the most powerful predictor of sudden cardiac death.
Wilkoff says that's why exercise is so important to heart health because it can strengthen your heart and improve circulation.
Dr. Wilkoff says another way to protect yourself from sudden cardiac death is by reducing any heart risks you may have.
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Over the course of last season, we ran a series of features in the Official Matchday Programme with some Arsenal-supporting London 2012 Olympic hopefuls. We continue with NBA star Luol Deng...
NBA star Luol Deng has been interviewed a couple of times in the matchday programme in the last six years. In that time we have watched him develop from a talented prospect in his first season at Chicago Bulls to the very heartbeat of that team and undoubtedly one of the stars of the league. Not surprisingly, Luol is also the leading light of a talented GB team that will chase a medal at this summer's Olympics.
Hi Luol, can you remind everyone why you are an Arsenal fan?
I grew up playing and watching a lot of football in London, I mean you don't have a choice as it is everywhere. Arsenal were an exciting team to watch so I took an early interest in them.
Who were your early Arsenal heroes and which players of recent times have you particularly liked?
Ian Wright was a big reason why I started to support Arsenal so it was great when I got to meet him. Players like Dennis Bergkamp, Tony Adams, Patrick Vieira and Thierry Henry are guys that really stick out. In recent times I have liked Cesc Fabregas and Robin van Persie. We have had some great players come and go so it's hard to name all of them but these guys are ones that stick out.
You first met up with the Arsenal players at the training ground in the summer of 2005 - the team has changed hugely since then.
Yeah I know – it's pretty crazy. I am the only player left on the Chicago Bulls team since I joined in 2004 so it's a part of sports where players move around.
You struck up a friendship with big basketball fan Thierry Henry back then, have you managed to hook up with him now he's in the States?
I haven't managed to see much of him in the States as we are both so busy but did manage to reconnect with him in San Antonio at a Spurs game as he is close friends with NBA player Tony Parker.
What did you think about his Red Bulls coming to London and winning the Emirates Cup?
It was great as we all know Thierry is a huge fan favourite so I know the supporters appreciated him being back. I was surprised they won but football is growing in the USA and is starting to get a bigger fanbase. It helps that some USA guys are in the Premier League also.
On to London 2012 – firstly, how important was it for basketball to get host nation status? Was it ever in doubt?
It is hugely important and to be honest I really didn't know if it was in doubt. I just knew that the team had put so much work in since we joined that our hard work would be rewarded.
You played a test event at the new stadium built for the competition, what did you think of it?
It was great to be in there where you could see what the atmosphere could be like. We are all so excited for 2012 and ready to put all of our hard work into action. We finished well in the recent Eurobasket tournament but will still be long shots for a medal.
What do you need to do to be competitive against the best teams?
I don't think we need that much as we compete with all the best teams. It comes down to just getting it right, preparing the right way with the right guys. It has been an up and down process so far but we are positive that we can put in some great performances at 2012 and show a lot of people how good we are.
We hear your GB team-mates Eric Boateng and Ogo Adegboye are big Gooners too – but Pops Mensah-Bonsu is Spurs isn't he?
We have some jokes and banter as that is a huge sports rivalry. Yeah, Pops is always going on about his Spurs! After the defeat to them [last season], there was a lot of stuff channeled through Twitter which was a tough one to take.
When your whole Bulls team came to a game against Blackburn a couple of years ago, Joakim Noah admitted that Arsenal were also his team… and he could win a medal for Arsenal with his France side – especially with Thierry's mate Tony Parker on the team too...
Joakim said that? Yeah I am sure he did actually! I am not sure how much skills he has though so wouldn't take him up on this!
Tell us a bit about your Foundation and the work it does.
My foundation concentrates in three areas (UK, USA and Africa) – which are the areas that have meant a huge amount to my life. Education and sports are our key focus with basketball being a tool to use this, especially in the UK. Check out the website for more info: www.luoldeng.org.uk


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Encircling the White House & Standing Against Keystone XL
This afternoon, I joined Green Festival regional director Alix Davidson and Green America policy director Fran Teplitz at Lafayette Park, two blocks away from Green America's offices, and directly in front of the White House, for today's day of action against the Keystone XL Pipeline.
At the rally before the action, inspirational speakers like Rev. Lennox Yearwood and Tom Poor Bear, vice president of the Oglalla Lakota reminded the crowd of President Obama's promises as a candidate to break the tyranny of oil. Rev. Jim Wallis, of Sojourners, likened the United States to an addict with a substance abuse problem, and exhorted protestors to perform an intervention. And intervene we did! We had more than enough demonstrators on hand to entirely circle the White House and demand that President Obama block the Keystone XL Pipeline.
Though the State Department has signed off on the trans-national pipeline (which would destroy boreal forests in Canada, and transport a highly toxic and dangerous form of crude across the sensitive aquifers and farmland of the American heartland), the ultimate decision to build the pipeline lies with President Obama. During the action, there were rumors that Obama had left the White House to drive around the perimeter and view the protest. His decision is expected by the end of the year.
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Sorry to say it man but welcome to the adult work force.
I mean I understand why he fired me, I did take a lot off but I always gave him 3-4 weeks notice. But the thing that really made me mad was the way he reacted and what he said. I just felt like it was really unnecessary for him to say some of those things to me.
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You do your job well.
Your boss writes a glowing recommendation, which is incredibly useful.
You take a lot of time off, which if you used your sick and/or vacation days, then he can't really say shit.
And now he's upset.
Sounds about right, to be honest, I would go to his office and rip up the recommendation letter, since if you put him as a reference on your resume, their probably going to call him, and if you leave a job on bad terms, that can basically ruin your career.
When an ex-employer can basically trash talk you for hours, it's happened to me plenty of times.
Since you don't work there anymore, it's up to you if you want to try and patch things up with your ex-employer, and I would give that a shot, can't lose anything, just lay it down, remind him that your quality of work was always excellent, if he won't here any of it, don't put him on your resume.
It's kind of hard to walk away from that, and it may be a bit difficult finding another job if you have no other references, but it's better then having someone always ruining your chance at a better job.
And to everyone who keeps repeating "Well, that's just how it goes, get used to it" That's not how it goes, and it never should, if the OP used his sick and/or vacation days, I would suggest speaking with HR about that, no one should be fired for taking time off that you are legally required to have access to, and if you didn't, and you just took time off, regardless of notice, there is nothing really to do here, move on and learn from it all.
Or cry, that works too.
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I have access to fields that have cut corn and cut beans in them. I never see ducks here. I am thinking if I set up a plond it might be something to draw the ducks in? My question is that the fields are right next to the Missouri River within 200yds, and there are very large trees between the river and the fields .
Do most ducks that fly up or down the river fly within the river and below the tree lines?
If so even a plond would not be great because the trees are blocking the birds visual of the plond...
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Yes and you'd be correct, not much cowl action is happening, but at higher speeds it does a little. If a car is using plastic covers underneath (especially the front half of the car) "cowl" type pressures are nearly non existant.
I just figured a little info on aerodynamics might be beneficial.
OK you went waaaay overboard on the explanation. LOL...
My question wasn't "are you getting air into the vents" which I'm sure you are. My question is how you're able to determine that air is going in via cowl effect, or just engine vacuum. Obviously air is going in... but you have to get pretty close to the windshield to actually get a cowl induction going.
My airbox is sealed more than that, just not a "pressurized" system such as a ram air. I'd say 90% or more of the air has to be coming IN from the vent. I did this mainly to isolate the filter from underhood air. But then there's really not enough area to "pull" air from under or around the filter and there is not a steady stream flowing under the hood and up through the vents (thanks to the mostly sealed box).
The further back on the hood the less pressure there is until you get to the cowl area. This has more to do with the aerodynamics of this particular front end design and the shape of the hood than anything else. The part of the hood where the vents are is a low pressure area (outside of hood). Also, the cowl area creates a swirling effect and there is very little suction unless there is an actual opening or bowl area. The cowl pressure is effected by the shape of the hood and the rake and angle of the windshield. The lower angle of the windshield, the less cowl disturbence there is. Cowl turbulence or using it as a form of induction might be ok for drag racing but it actually can cause more CD at higher speeds such as oval racing or flat out top speed runs.
The frontal area of the car pushes the air outwards until it hits the upper half of the windshield or the roofline. The rear half the hood up until the cowl area there is not much movement of air, at least not enough that would adversely effect performance. Air coming over the top of windshield and roof is what creates the actual "cowl" phenomenom. This only works *IF* there is a place for the air to escape (ie: an opening). If you've ever seen a car inside a wind tunnel you be able to see the actual stream line of the air as it goes over the entire body of the car. There is very little pressure that far back on the hood. This is the biggest reason a properly designed ram-air system is placed in a high pressure area (usually at the front and radius of the hood).
There is less wind resistance the further downstream you get from the initial (offending) frontal area (the area actually cutting or splitting the wind) until a convergence point. A more streamlined rear portion of a car is much more aeodynamic than a wedge (like our hatchback is). For instance, stick your hand outside your window 6" from where the glass would be (like where your side mirrors are for instance) and then stick your hand out 2-3 feet. If you could do it further back on the car, the more it would make drag. The faster you go, the bigger the difference but you get the idea. This is because the air does NOT hug the curvatures and surfaces as you suggest. Air hits a frontal area (high pressure) and there is a certain amount of "deflection". This is normal.
This is one reason you need a BIG rear spoiler (v.s. a smaller one) to catch and apply downforce to the rear of an automobile.
Suspension heigth also plays a very important role as well. Keeping air from going UNDER the car adds more down force and makes it stick better at high speeds. Doing so also creates more frontal area and LESS pressure closest to the actual surface of the car. That's why you have a fan shroud on most cars (it creates more frontal area to catch more air and literally force it through the radiator which of course then there is a heat transfer/exchange). Just ask any NASCAR driver how much of an effect taping the front air inlet areas and how it effects aerodynamics, downforce and drag.
Again, if you study the slipstream of a car in a windtunnel, you'll see that the more aerodynamic the body shape, the less frontal area there is and the less coefficient of drag you will have. This also effectively moves the slipstream closer to the body (as it isn't pushed outward as much as a squared shape would). On most production cars (and especially hatchback designs), you will see that most of the air moving over the body of the vehicle is several inches to a foot or more from the actual surface depending on the area of the car. These "high slipstream" areas are what are called low pressure areas below the "line". If my vents were closer to the front of the hood (where a high pressure area exists at higher road speeds) or at the second half of the windshield/roofline for instance, then there would definately be some issues, especially if air was able to be dragged from under the car and through the vents.
Usually cars with good coefficient of drag, utilize lower body panels to funnel the air BACK smoothly instead of up through the engine bay and over suspension parts which create significant drag. As you get to the rear of the car, you want to straighten the air as much as possible as otherwise it will cause turbulence, LIFT and subsequent drag. A properly designed under spoiler, rear apron or diffuser is will straighten the flow of air as it exits the underbody.
NACA ducts are better "air scoops" in low pressure areas and that's why they are used on racecars in odd areas. NACA function involves a venturi effect which I'm not going to discuss in this thread (it would be TMI at this point).. hehehe. Some "production" cars (Viper and Z06 Corvettes) use NACA style ducts for ram-air but they are mostly for styling than actual function (they look sweet)
How did you test the cowl induction? It seems unlikely as they are still a good distance from the windshield.
The vacuum is always there at speed... air is flowing over the hood and vents, pulling air out of the vents. With the vents facing the opposite direction, you'll have less resistance into the intake. As you said, it's not sealed though, so you're likely just getting a portion of air from the vents and the rest from whatever openings are around the airbox.
It's not a perfect seal like a ram-air should be, so there shouldn't be a vacuum situation. There are small pressure relief holes at the bottom rear part of the box so there is no chance of the incoming air competing with outgoing air. Also, the vents actually do get some cowl induction benefit being so far up on the hood (I've tested this already... air is definatelty only going in, not out). Besides that, the filter actually sits only 2mm from the vent so it pulls in plenty of air. Needless to say it is *VERY* effective. Soon though I will be going to a completely sealed box with a ram-air scoop. The vents will just let hot air out on both sides then. Also, the direction of the vents wouldn't make much difference anyways as only the front one has any frontal area to actually pick up air.
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When I saw this, the 1st thing I thought was that someone fell on the floor while everyone was trying to exit in a rush. Poor fellow.
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Keelmy wrote:When I saw this, the 1st thing I thought was that someone fell on the floor while everyone was trying to exit in a rush. Poor fellow.
That's awesome!
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I work in the Advertising business. I would have major concerns over copyrights on this shirt... Still kicks ass.
Outstanding - I love the shadow and the detail where his foot digs in, GMV!
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After nine months of breastfeeding I'm afraid this shirt hits just a little too close to home.
For those of you who dont know Janet R.=Janitor
Um, I just don't get it, could someone explain this shirt to me, I just don't get the Mano hand of fate reference. Nice artwork though.
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