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Cruise Itinerary Details
Carnival Dream
Departing from: Port Canaveral (Orlando), Florida
Ports of Call:
- Cozumel, Mexico
- Belize City, Belize
- Mahogany Bay, Roatan, Bay Islands, Honduras
- Costa Maya (Mahahual), Mexico
Bars, Clubs & Lounges
Lounges & Bars
Intimate Lounge
The Song Jazz Lounge
Rendezvous Club Lounge
Lobby Bar
Dream Bar
Pool Bar
RedFrog Rum Bar
BlueIguana Tequila Bar
Casino Bar
Jackpot Casino Bar
Coffee Bar
Plaza Cafe
Adults-Only Bar
Music and Dancing
Live Music/Dancing
Ocean Plaza
Plaza Bar
Caliente Dance Club
Sam's Piano Bar
Teen Spots
Teen Lounge/Club
Club O2
The Wheelhouse Video Arcade
Vegas-style Lounge
Burgundy Aft Lounge
Casino & Gambling
- Jackpot Casino
- Over 190 slot machines
- 19 Gaming tables: Blackjack, Caribbean Draw Poker, 3 Card Poker, Let it Ride, Roulette, Craps and Texas Hold'em
- Tournaments: Blackjack and Slots
- Card and game lessons (vary by itinerary)
- Currencies accepted: U.S. Currency and Sail & Sign�� accounts
- Casino is closed on port days.
- Cloud 9 Spa - 40,000 square-foot, two-deck spa
- Thalassotherapy Pool
- 2 Saunas (men/women)
- 2 Steam rooms (men/women)
- Beauty Salon
- Wide variety of body treatments
- V.I.P Couples Suites (Treatment Rooms) with whirlpools
- Thermal Suite: Dry Heat Chambers
- Thermal Suite: Steam Chambers (Oriental and Aroma Steambaths)
- Rasul Bath: special treatments including mud bath
- Floatation Therapy
- Additional charge for spa and salon services
Sports & Fitness
- Fitness Center: features state-of-the-art equipment
- Exercise Classes: Various classes including aerobics, Yoga, Pilates, Resistance training, spinning, and more. Exercise programs vary by ship itinerary (additional fee for some classes)
- Outdoor jogging track
- Personal Training (additional fee)
- City Sports Park: 9-hole miniature golf
- Dream Team Basketball Court (full court)
- Jogging Track - outdoor on Spa Deck
- Ping Pong Tables (2)
- Volleyball Court
- Waves Pool - salt water pool with retractable roof
- Sunset Pool - outdoor salt water pool
- Sunset Whirlpools (2)
- WaterWorks - On-board waterpark with 6 different slides (Drain Pipe, racing slides, 300 foot long slide)
- Cantilevered whirlpools that extend beyond side of the ship
- Serenity - adults-only area - 2 whirlpools
- The Fun Shops
- Logo clothing, souvenirs, clothing, jewelry, perfume, liquor and sundries
- The Gallery: photo gallery and fun ship films video services
- Art Gallery
- Cherry on Top - the perfect place to pick up sweet treats and more
- Encore! Main Lounge
- Carnival Seaside Theater
- The Punchliner Comedy Club presented by George Lopez
- Broadway Musicals
- Carnival LIVE (Select sailings)
- Vocalist Shows
- Dance Shows
Parties and Theme Nights
- Captain's Celebration - "Meet and Greet" and "Fun Farewell"
- Late Night Deck Party
- Deck parties are cruise specific on destination and itinerary
- Past Guest Reception: offered on cruises 5 days or longer
- Deck parties are cruise specific based on destination or itinerary
Music and Dance
- Dance Classes
- Karaoke
- Live Bands
- DJs
Contests & Tournaments
- Bridge and Card games
- Bingo
- Trivia games
- Scavenger Hunt
- Lido Deck and Pool Games
- Couples and Lovers Game
- Battle of the Sexes
- Games vary at the discretion of the cruise director
- Superstar Live Karaoke
Other Features
- Art Auctions
- Shore excursions briefings
- "Fun" Hub Stations - 36 kiosks spread on decks 3, 4, and 5. Ship-specific portal free to use - surfing the Internet available for a fee
- Port preview lectures
- The Page Turner Library
- Laser Light Show
- Laser Tag: $5 per guest for 5 minute game (price subject to change)
- Golf Lessons
- Health and Wellness instructors
Kids & Families
Family ActivitiesWhat is a vacation without a little family game time? Carnival Cruises wants to promote fun- filled vacations for the whole family by offering a selection of family activities.
- Family Welcome Aboard Parties
- Ice Cream Eating Contests
- Kids Talent Show
- Family Scavenger Hunt
- Family Arts and Crafts
- Family Name that Tune
- Family Karaoke
- Cookie Decorating
- Teddy Bear Workshop
- Family Water Wars
- Seuss @ Sea and Seussa-Palooza - timeless stories of Dr. Seuss come to life with special onboard character parade, interactive story time, and arts & crafts activities.
- Green Eggs & Ham Breakfast - This breakfast is part meal and part journey into the whimsical world of Dr. Seuss - fun for the whole family! (Extra fee of $5 per adult or child - subject to change)
Camp Ocean
Camp Ocean activities span across 11 key categories of play, including core themes of active play, games, free play, arts and crafts and digital, coupled with additional categories such as role play, music, party time, science and discovery, social and food fun, all designed to find the ideal combination of activities catering to children���s varied interests. More than 200 new ocean-inspired activities will range from educational games to creative arts opportunities such as Design Your Own Aquarium, Sea Salt Art and Create a Penguin from Oreos. Examples of Activities
Penguins (Ages 2 to 5)
- Paper bag whale creation
- Musical icebergs
- Sea creature aerobics
- Ocean bingo
- Ocean songs sing-along
- Penguin Palooza: Oreo Penguin Making
Stingrays (Ages 6 to 8)
- Design your own acquarium
- Fish, fish, Shark Catch
- Seashell Arts & Crafts
- Ocean Artifacts Memory Game
- Pirate Game Night
Sharks (Ages 9 to 11)
- Design your own cruise ship
- Giant ocean wall mural
- Shark Art
- Inner tube relay
- Ocean Origami
The Badge ChallengeThe Badge Challenge will provide the opportunity for kids to earn and collect badges as a special memento of their cruise. Badge challenges will include a variety of unique activities that provide an original way for kids to learn about their vessel, experience onboard adventures and gain a sense of accomplishment. After completing tasks which may include trying a new food, making an aquatic towel animal or riding the water slide, children will collect corresponding Camp Ocean badges. At the end of the cruise, there is a special ceremony with giveaways for the three age groups. Badges can be collected over multiple cruises.
BabysittingCamp Ocean Night Owls offers babysitting for children 6 months to 11 years in the Camp Ocean playroom, allowing parents time to enjoy the nightlife without having to worry about their little ones. This service offers a "slumber party" atmosphere for your children with movie time, cartoons and room service snacks.
- Each evening 10 PM to 1 AM
- $6.75 per hour plus a 15% gratuity, per child
- Children sleep on pillows and blankets; cots are not provided.
- For infants, Pack & Plays are available for usage.
- Please Note: Carnival doesn't offer any in-cabin babysitting services.
Circle "C"
Circle "C" is the ultimate young teen program for kids ages 12 to 14 years of age. The facility features a dance floor with high-tech sound and lighting system, the latest in video gaming, and 42-inch plasma TV's that display movies and music videos. The Circle "C" program also offers a full schedule of activities and a chance for kids to meet up with people their own age in an inviting and vibrant lounge. A list of some of the activities offered follows:
- Talent Show
- Video gaming consoles
- Dance Parties
- Late Night Teen Hang
- Late Night Movies
- Video game tournaments
- Scavenger Hunts
- Karaoke
- Sporting Activities - including dodge-ball, basketball, mini-golf
- Carnival Twister Waterslide Races
Club O2
This unique club designed and dedicated for teens ages 15 to 17 years old, features its own teen director and special teen activities. The lounge offers a place for teens to hang out, meet new friends, listen to music, play video games or just chill out away from the parents. No kids or adults are allowed. Club O2 is a non-smoking and a non-alcohol lounge. A list of some of the activities offered follows:
- Music World
- Amazing Gaming
- Lounge Life
- Scavenger Hunts
- Pool Functions
- Sporting Events - volleyball, basketball, ping pong and more
- Video Game Tournaments
- Theme Parties: Hip-Hop night, Punk Rocker Night
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He plans to cut Medicare/aid significantly, but not as much as the GOP would.And let's all remember that this is just an expiration of tax cuts. We all used to be at these rates. I hear all about fiscal responsibility, but nobody wants to help pay down the debt. Not the rich, you say. Not me, you say. Then who? And what WOULD you cut to save $?
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Cazorla and Wilshere's on-pitch relationship is blossoming and the 20-year-old is hugely impressed by Arsène Wenger's summer signing from Malaga.
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That made my stomach feel sick. It happened so fast. She did not mean for this to happen. She was pretty frantic trying to hit buttons - anything to release the dog. Afterwards you could see she needed to collect herself totally freaked out - looks like she may have hurt her hand?
She should have absolutely made sure the leashes were all the way inside the elevator but she sure as heck did want that her dog to hang it's self...accident.
Thank goodness camera's haven't caught some of my mistakes. When my daughter was 4 she was standing beside me in the store - I turned my back to look at something and she was gone. I cannot tell you the state of panic I was in...she was hiding in the clothes rack. If you saw the video of her slipping away I looked like a POS mom.
I didn't realize that people were actually blaming the woman... all I saw was an accident. Shoot I know for a fact the majority of us have had somethinghappen, that yes.. hind sight we should have been prepared for. The "best" (as in the ones we learn from the most) lessons are the tough ones.. I bet now she is going to either never take the elevators again or she will be WAY more concious of the leashes and where they are.
I could go into a good few stories with Titan where I have made mistakes that could have turned into horror stories.. but I won't bore you guys, lol. But I know we all have them.
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Gotta love flaming somebody for an accident. Maybe she didn't know she had dropped the leash? She had the other one in her hand... Easy mistake and she clearly was traumatized by it and was happy to have saved her dog.
As I watched this I started to panic, it stressed me out and I wasn't even there. I couldn't imagine this happening to me or my dogs, I think I would be hysterical. She looked terrified and tried her hardest to get the dog down so she definitely didn't do it on purpose.
I screwed up like 2 weeks ago, I had just gotten home from taking Draco to my mom's hair salon, I hadn't closed my gates yet and I was getting Draco out of the vehicle when he jumped down his leash slipped through my hands and he started jogging down the alley! I thought I was going to have a heart attack because people FLY down that alley, I tried to remain calm and happily call him back to me and he completely ignored me and kept on going. I started panicking and I did a scream/cry at him and he still ignored me. Thank goodness he stopped to mark a tree otherwise he would have made it to the road. That definitely woke me up, freaked me out and made me realize that his recall sucks and I need to close the gates before getting him out of the car.
Oh and while this was happening, Sinister sat in the yard with the gates wide open and watched me run down the alley after Draco. Sinister has been trained not to leave the yard unless he is given a command. Now to teach Draco the same thing.......
It is impossible to go through life without having accidents and occasional negligence. As a pediatric nurse I have seen some pretty horrible things that have happened, and in many of them you could pick it apart and blame people but I don't see the point (other than maybe to serve as a warning to others).
I think it is odd to get angry when something like this happens unless it is a majorly negligent situation. In my experience the person who made the mistake feels bad enough already.
While its always good to get reminders to be viligent, its sad to see how many people think they don't ever make mistakes. Being the perfect dog owner is a heavy responsibility....hope when you fall from your high horse your leash doesn't get caught on the saddle horn.
I'd say this "negligent" dog owner has learned her lesson. Sometimes things happen fast, there are too many things on your mind, etc. I prefer to call it an accident that could have been worse...
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|The lady this happened to got the video from her apartment management so she could post on her facebook to warn others what could happen. Hopefully it will save somebody from having the same type of accident.
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There is an inner door that moves with the elevator and an outer door that is mounted in the wall.
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|I just don't understand what the leash caught on? Yes the leash got caught in the door... but the door is part of the elevator no? So it would just go down with the elevator? Unless American elevators are vastly different than the ones around here I just don't see this happening o-o
|Gotta love flaming somebody for an accident. Maybe she didn't know she had dropped the leash? She had the other one in her hand... Easy mistake and she clearly was traumatized by it and was happy to have saved her dog.
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Senate Bill No. 336
(By Senators Stollings, Wells, Plymale, Barnes, Beach, Unger, Palumbo, Kessler (Mr. President) and Jenkins)
[Introduced February 21, 2013; referred to the Committee on Education; and then to the Committee on the Judiciary .]
A BILL to repeal §55-7-19 of the Code of West Virginia, 1931, as amended; to amend said code by adding thereto a new section, designated §18-2-25a; to amend and reenact §29-12-5a of said code; and to amend and reenact §55-7-15 of said code, all relating to establishing protocols and protections to limit and treat injury to youth athletes and students; making findings with respect to concussions; defining certain terms requiring Secondary School Activities Commission promulgate rules addressing concussions and head injuries; specifying certain minimum provisions of rules; requiring inclusion of volunteer workers and student teachers under the professional and liability coverage provided to county school boards by Board of Risk and Insurance Management; including licensed health care professional within term "volunteer worker" with certain conditions and limiting civil liability; including medical assistance rendered by licensed medical professional without remuneration to youth athlete as equivalent to emergency care at scene of accident or medical emergency for protection from liability for civil damages; and including scheduled practices within term "event".
Be it enacted by the Legislature of West Virginia:
That §55-7-19 of the Code of West Virginia, 1931, as amended, be repealed; that said code be amended by adding thereto a new section, designated §18-2-25a; that §29-12-5a of said code be amended and reenacted; and that §55-7-15 of said code be amended and reenacted, all to read as follows:
§18-2-25a. Management of concussions and head injuries in athletics at West Virginia Secondary School Activities Commission member high school or middle school.
(a) The Legislature finds:
(1) Concussions are one of the most commonly reported injuries in children and adolescents who participate in sports and recreational activities. The centers for disease control and prevention estimates that as many as three million nine hundred thousand sports-related and recreation-related concussions occur in the United States each year;
(2) A concussion is caused by a blow or motion to the head or body that causes the brain to move rapidly inside the skull. The risk of catastrophic injuries or death are significant when a concussion or head injury is not properly evaluated and managed;
(3) Concussions are a type of brain injury that can range from mild to severe and can disrupt the way the brain normally works;
(4) Concussions can occur in any organized or unorganized sport or recreational activity and can result from a fall or from players colliding with each other, the ground or with obstacles;
(5) Concussions occur with or without loss of consciousness, but the vast majority occur without loss of consciousness;
(6) Continuing to play or practice with a concussion or symptoms of head injury leaves the interscholastic athlete especially vulnerable to greater injury and even death; and
(7) Even with generally recognized return to play and practice standards for concussion and head injury, some affected interscholastic athletes are prematurely returned to play or practice resulting in actual or potential physical injury or death to the athletes in the State of West Virginia.
(b) For the purposes of this section, "interscholastic athlete" means any athlete who is participating in interscholastic athletics at a high school or middle school that is a member of the West Virginia Secondary School Activities Commission, and "licensed health care professional" means a health care provider whose licensed scope of practice includes the ability to diagnose and treat an injury or disease.
(c) The West Virginia Secondary School Activities Commission shall promulgate rules pursuant to section twenty-five of this article that address concussions and head injuries in interscholastic athletes:
That prior to state board approval and notwithstanding the exemption provided in section three, article one, chapter twenty-nine-a of this code, the state board shall submit the rule to the Legislative Oversight Commission on Education Accountability pursuant to section nine, article three-b, chapter twenty-nine-a of this code.
(d) The rules required by this section shall include, but are not limited to, the following:
(1) Guidelines and other pertinent information and forms to inform and educate appropriate school administrators, coaches, interscholastic athletes and their parents or guardians of the nature and risk of concussion and head injury including continuing to play or practice after a concussion or head injury;
(2) A concussion and head injury information sheet that shall be signed and returned by the interscholastic athlete and the athlete's parent or guardian on an annual basis before the interscholastic athlete begins practice or competition;
(3) A requirement that each head coach of an interscholastic sport at a high school or middle school that is a member of the West Virginia Secondary School Activities Commission complete a commission-approved concussion and head injury recognition and return-to-play protocol course annually;
(4) An interscholastic athlete who is suspected by a licensed health care professional or by his or her head coach or athletic trainer of sustaining a concussion or head injury in a practice or game shall be removed from competition at that time;
(5) An interscholastic athlete who has been removed from play or practice may not return to play or practice until the athlete is evaluated by a licensed health care professional trained in the evaluation and management of concussions and receives written clearance to return to play and practice from the licensed health care professional;
(6) A list of the respective categories of licensed health care professionals who, if properly trained in the evaluation and management of concussions, are authorized to provide written clearance for the interscholastic athlete to return to play; and
(7) A requirement that all member schools must submit a report to the West Virginia Secondary School Activities Commission within thirty days of an interscholastic athlete suffering or being suspected of suffering a concussion or head injury in a practice or game. The report must state whether an evaluation by a licensed health care professional verified that a concussion or head injury was actually suffered, whether the athlete received written clearance to return to play or practice and, if written clearance was given, the number of days between the incident and the actual return to play or practice. If written clearance to return to play is given after thirty days of the incident, a report update shall be submitted then. The West Virginia Secondary School Activities Commission shall compile and submit the reports to the appropriate state and national organization or agencies to analyze and make determinations on whether the rule required by this section or equipment worn by interscholastic athlete needs to be amended accordingly.
§29-12-5a. Liability insurance for county boards of education, their employees and members, the county superintendent of schools, and for employees and officers of the state Department of Corrections.
(a) In accordance with the provisions of this article, the state Board of Risk and Insurance Management shall provide appropriate professional or other liability insurance for all county boards of education, teachers, supervisory and administrative staff members, service personnel, county superintendents of schools
school board members
, volunteer workers and student teachers,
and for all employees and officers of the state Department of Corrections
: Provided,
That the board of Risk and Insurance Management is not required to provide insurance for every property, activity or responsibility of county boards of education, teachers, supervisory and administrative staff members, service personnel, county superintendents of schools,
school board members,
volunteer workers and student teachers,
and for all employees and officers of the state Department of Corrections.
(b) Insurance provided by the board of Risk and Insurance Management pursuant to the provisions of subsection (a) of this section shall cover claims, demands, actions, suits or judgments by reason of alleged negligence or other acts resulting in bodily injury or property damage to any person within or without any school building or correctional institution if, at the time of the alleged injury, the teacher, supervisor, administrator, service personnel employee, county superintendent, school board member,
volunteer worker or student teacher,
or employee or officer of the Department of Corrections was acting in the discharge of his or her duties, within the scope of his or her office, position or employment, under the direction of the Board of Education or Commissioner of Corrections or in an official capacity as a county superintendent or as a school board member or as Commissioner of Corrections.
(c) Insurance coverage provided by the Board of Risk and Insurance Management pursuant to subsection (a) of this section shall be in an amount to be determined by the state Board of Risk and Insurance Management, but in no event less than $1 million for each occurrence. In addition, each county board of education shall purchase, through the Board of Risk and Insurance Management, excess coverage of at least $5 million for each occurrence. The cost of this excess coverage will be paid by the respective county boards of education. Any insurance purchased under this section shall be obtained from a company licensed to do business in this state.
(d) The insurance policy provided by the Board of Risk and Insurance Management pursuant to subsection (a) of this section shall include comprehensive coverage, personal injury coverage, malpractice coverage, corporal punishment coverage, legal liability coverage as well as a provision for the payment of the cost of attorney's fees in connection with any claim, demand, action, suit or judgment arising from such alleged negligence or other act resulting in bodily injury under the conditions specified in this section.
(e) The county superintendent and other school personnel
, volunteer worker and student teacher
shall be defended by the county board or an insurer in the case of suit, unless the act or omission shall not have been within the course or scope of employment or official responsibility or was motivated by malicious or criminal intent.
(f) For the purposes of this section, "volunteer worker" includes, but is not limited to, a licensed health care professional who renders services of a medical nature to students under an agreement with a county board that defines the scope of his or her duties as such and for which no remuneration is demanded or received. A licensed health care professional is not be liable for any civil damages as a result of rendering such services, or as a result of any act or failure to act in providing or arranging further medical treatment, in accordance with acceptable standards of care, to an extent greater than the applicable limits of the professional liability insurance provided by the state Board of Risk and Insurance Management pursuant to this section and in effect at the time. Nothing in this subsection nullifies the immunity from civil liability as granted pursuant to section fifteen, article seven, chapter fifty-five of this code or federal law except to the extent to which the actions are covered within the applicable limits of the professional liability insurance provided by the state Board of Risk and Insurance Management pursuant to this section and in effect at the time.
§55-7-15. Aid to victim of accident and victim of crime; immunity from civil liability.
No person, including a person licensed to practice medicine or dentistry, who in good faith renders emergency care at the scene of an accident
or medical emergency
or to a victim at the scene of a crime, without remuneration,
shall be
is liable for any civil damages as the result of any act or omission in rendering such emergency care.
For the purposes of this section, "scene of an accident or medical emergency" also includes a youth athletic event, including a school sponsored or interscholastic athletic event, at which assistance of a medical nature is rendered in an emergency situation by a licensed medical professional, for which no remuneration is demanded or received, to an athlete injured while participating in the event. For the purposes of this section, "athletic event" includes scheduled practices.
NOTE: The purpose of this bill is to establish protocols and protections to help limit injuries to youth athletes and students and improve the treatment of them. In particular, the bill emphasizes the protocols for removal and return to play following concussions in interscholastic sports regulated by the WV Secondary School Activities Commission.
Strike-throughs indicate existing language that would be removed, and underscoring indicates new language that would be added.
§18-2-25a is new; therefore, strike-throughs and underscoring have been omitted.
This bill was recommended for introduction and passage during the Regular Session of the Legislature by the Joint Standing Committee on Education.
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*My ticket into the Shirts on Sale Sad Rat Race.
Wanna buy it later? Click this link!
I call shenanigans, sir.
Also, this is pretty hideous, and didn't threadless have an equally hideous knit style shirt?
Ain't that the truth!
Ugly as sin.
Oh my... :-p
R they serious????
I am floored......wow.
I love you woot.
Hahaha - very funny, woot.
Dude. Wow. Nuff said.
That's.... kind of amazing.
I wish I had an Ugly Christmas Sweater party to go to.
oh my gosh, this is hilarious. I wonder how few/many this will sell because of how hideous it is.
Why? Please explain why you would sell a shirt that won't sell out? Do you just not want to do your jobs? I am, thats completely understandable...
That one line from Family guy comes to mind
Wow, it's ugly as reindeer droppings and I've noticed something, why does shirt.woot always sell holiday themed shirts on the day of the holiday instead of a few days or a week before the holiday so you can wear the holiday themed shirts on that holiday since you wouldn't wear it any other day...........
wow.... is it just me or are shirt.woot shirts just basically reindeer droppings in general? i haven't seen anything i really like in a long time, i've got three shirts from shirt.woot, the launch tee, the day off, and the random shirt... and i shoulda know i would get reindeer droppings from the random shirt... i ended up with the smurfing BATS BATS BATS! shirt...
most of my shirts have been from threadless or uneetee lately...
Dude... This shirt is perfect. It's absolutely perfect. The ugly sweater T-Shirt should've been available well BEFORE Christmas though. I would've rocked that out Christmas day just for the laughs.
are you kidding me?
this was your ONLY good christmas shirt and i can't even wear it by christmas?!
you guys seriously screwed the woot this year. i would've bought at least 2 of these but since they'll be late, i'm out
the grinch must be running the woot sites these days because his heart is 3 times too small and 3 times not smart enough to put much worth wooting for christmas
dopey5007 wrote:That one line from Family guy comes to mind
don we now our ebullient apparel?
this is so bad, I love it! But I'm not gonna wear it in february. If this was up 2 weeks ago, I woulda got it.
Mod title up +1 insightful
Best. Shirt. Ever.
Hah! This shirt gave me the black square. Thanks for the Christmas gift, woot!
If this sells out, I'm starting a t-shirt business and making millions.
Wonderously Gaudy! Can't wait to sport it.
Thanks for being funny woot.
Bathysphere of Curmudgeons on woot tonight. Hurry!
Shouldn't the overnight orders be delivered Thursday? Doubt FedEx is picking these gems up on Christmas...
pg5of16 wrote:Best. Shirt. Ever.
For. The. Blind.
ablong wrote:Dude... This shirt is perfect. It's absolutely perfect. The ugly sweater T-Shirt should've been available well BEFORE Christmas though. I would've rocked that out Christmas day just for the laughs.
It makes sense only from a marketing standpoint to do this. They DID offer a christmas tee last week, tho, which could have been overnighted to you.
Fact is, woot likes them some calendar logic. Selling a christmas shirt two weeks prior would be like stumbling into a restaurant on March 1st and demanding corned beef and cabbage, because you wouldn't be around for St. Patrick's Day.
CRWJumper wrote:Bathysphere of Curmudgeons on woot tonight. Hurry!
Oh, please. It sold out 12 minutes before you even posted here.
BTW, hooray for truth in advertising. That really is a hideous shirt. I might have to get one to wear next year - or sometime in January. Yes, yes, I live on the edge. hohoho!
Ha ha don't you guys get it? They made that dreadfully hideous classic winter sweater into a t-shirt so you can wear it year round! It's brilliant... I'm in for one
Goodnight Marci, and Merry Christmas.
(Didja get a Braille on Cookies?)
Aren't there TWELVE days of Christmas? Get overnight shipping and wear it seven consecutive days!
Alternatively, leave it in its bag for next year, those bags are pretty well sealed.
<3 good stuff I love that it has sweater look and not just a plain design
mmm, there is a difference between humor and wearable humor
this would look really cute on a younger guy with a 70's hairstyle, that wore corded corduroy pants/jacket ensemble with some loafers.
I however am a girl. With no loafers
This is so ugly I couldn't even stand to continue looking at it under my regular screenname.
I am sad since I missed Boot of Coal... but this almost make up for it.
Every fiber of my being are telling me not to buy this but oh man, so tempting...
"2% bought 3"
what the... I wouldn't want to be on that person's gift list...
I'm still in a ordering "holding pattern" ever since the Crap went up, next door.
I got one shirt, since my birthday was yesterday, on the 24th.
I believe it's my "waiting an entire year between my birthday and Christmas" Right to wear this shirt on my birthdays, so if people ever ask me "Doesn't it suck to have your birthday on Christmas Eve?" I'll just let them look at my green holiday shirt instead. L~O~L
Wow. That is the pattern of a sweater my mother knitted for each of us (well, except the ones who got hand me downs before the moths did. Except she made them in a navy blue with red, orange, and green design.
I remember it exactly...she put a zipper in it...you just don't forget something that looks like that.
Wow. Some shirt! Who found my mother's pattern book?
That is one very ugly-duckling shirt. Sorry Woot, I wouldn't wear it if it was free(w/shipping)... seriously.
Liszt wrote:If this sells out, I'm starting a t-shirt business and making millions.
This is one of the best shirt.woots yet. Great job today, this is a really great shirt.
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FURTHER EDIT: I somehow find this a little funny, but Greer's post today is mostly addressed to the comments of doubters, and several remarks are directed toward ideas I put forward, one very specifically to me:
One interesting wrinkle on this last point comes from a commenter who insists, quoting a scholar of religious studies from India, that the concept "religion" is purely a modern Western notion and can't be used outside that context.
… which forces me to set the record straight even though I wanted to move on!
The guy I quoted, Balagangadhara, whom I wrote a little about here, of course does not say that at all; I probably didn't get across his thesis very well. Balagangadhara thinks Western Abrahamic religion is in a fundamentally different category from other sorts of religion, as I said, because of its strongly ideocratic and orthodoxy-creating character, which separates it even from other types of orthodoxy in several respects — so much so that calling them something other than religion might be more accurate in his opinion. What Greer says today:
The phenomena assigned to the category "religion" in English still exist in those languages and cultures—you'll find, for example, that good clear translations of words such as "deity," "worship," "temple," "prayer," "offering," "scripture," and the like can be found in a great many languages that have no word for "religion" as such.
… doesn't invalidate Balangangadhara in the least, because his point is that so many pre-reformation travellers (whom he quotes in detail) took careful note of all those foreign elements of "deity", "worship" and so forth, but still said the cultures "did not have religion" — not that they didn't have "our" religion, not that they had "false" religion, but that they had no religion. That is, they didn't believe the morphology was universal. This is what makes Balagangadhara's point so much more interesting than a mere quibble about available vocabularies, a point I made last week… but if interested to see where Balagangadhara takes that evidence just check out his actual book. It is very interesting stuff — is "scripture" the same idea the world over? is all religion creedal? etc. — but I wasn't planning to talk a lot more about it!
I also wasn't intending to derail Greer's, well, "progress" — I genuinely thought he might be interested in some of those ideas! They don't invalidate what he's saying, they just nuance it differently — basically the post-Abrahamic nature of Greer's "progress religion" sets it off against other forms of religion as fundamentally different, and that would include his own Druidry as far as I can see. Yes I did and do foresee problems with the series, based not uncomedically on a morphological approach vis-a-vis previous Greer series, but I'm not going to endlessly blather about them either, at least until everything upcoming is done. So as far as I personally am concerned this current post of his wasn't necessary.
Goethe's morphology, like several other things Greer mentioned and will mention, plays a role in my series too, albeit the two series have rather different approaches, which means they may clash or dovetail. But neither of those eventualities would be such a frightful thing, would it? :)
Oh — and as I said, I'm not going to spend any more time on this. Positively, this is my last word on it. Comments here are closed.
EDIT: It looks like no-one else is really bothered about this. :) Some people are happy to just go along with Greer, others have already given up on the whole "progress religion" thing as a straw man… but the idea between those two positions, of doing a lot more discussion of the points below, doesn't seem to have any traction by contrast with my usual posts. So I will let it lie.
In fairness to Greer, he has said I've misunderstood him. In fairness to me — he hasn't said how, and I quoted him verbatim at least on some things.
But anyway, we'll move swiftly on…
So before I go any further, a little situation has been building that I want to explore. John Michael Greer (one of the two excellent writers who unequivocally showed me the necessity of a historical approach to SBNR, William Irwin Thompson being the other), has just begun his own biiiiiig series on religion and peak oil. The latest post is a fair sample if you haven't been following so far.
Like some other readers I'm having a little trouble with this series, and wondered if anyone else would like to discuss it. I will post to Greer's comments page — link here as soon as it's been put up — but there isn't room there for everything I want to say.
The basic idea of the series is that everyone who has made any use of the "progress" concept since the Enlightenment can be seen as part of a "religion of progress", which is "the most widely accepted civil religion of the modern industrial world", and turns out to be intolerantly post-Abrahamic. Its major belief, Greer says, is that "humanity is moving inevitably onward and upward toward some glorious destiny". To him this religion encompasses for instance "researchers who have risked their lives, and not infrequently lost them, to further the progress of science and technology" and "moral crusaders who have done the same thing in the name of political or economic progress", amongst a big crop of other examples.
I don't — yet — really see the application of this analogy. I'd love a bit more discussion and demonstration about its huge mass of grey areas, but Greer himself seems disinclined. (The shrift given in his comments page to those who question the idea's explanatory power is short to say the least.) I don't think progress really "is a religion", of course, but more importantly I will take a lot of convincing that it can usefully be seen as one — nor do I think it's necessarily the only or best hinge idea to pick, in persuading people to prepare for difficulties ahead.
But a lot of my problem at the moment is that Greer, who so often inveighs against dualistic, black-white thinking, seems to be indulging in it liberally himself. I wondered if anyone else had found this. He is scripting the content, not just the style or direction of people's beliefs — and, not for the first time in his blog's life I think, over-simplifying too liberally.
I'm actually thinking about the little Carl Sagan quote that was posted in his comments this week as an example, of all things — not because I care much for Carl Sagan, but because I don't, and am pretty neutral. The quote, about awe before the universe, was smeared instantly by Greer as a disingenuous attempt to manipulate Sagan's readers into the evils of scientism, pretending to reverence its author didn't feel. The idea that it could have had any sincerity (however mistaken) didn't seem to cross his mind at all. Sagan was Pope of progressism, which apparently condemns him to hypocrisy.
My problem is that Greer is laying out his theses mostly in order to help people transition away from any addiction to hampering progress myths, in the difficult upcoming age. Thus he's claiming to pinpoint what is motivating them — and yet, as accurate as Greer is on fact and historical position, I've often felt him to be wrong about psychology, even though he puts forward his ideas in the same tone as facts about peak oil! The Sagan thing is just a miniature example of this.
In last week's comments, Greer promulgated some ideas about scientism as a whole, which explain his evaluation of Sagan: "Nature is what science is supposed to conquer; nature is the Devil of scientism, the old enemy who will eventually be bound in chains and made to drag the glorious chariot of humanity wherever 'we' (however defined) want it to go." Of course, since this has been declared the case, the scientistic Sagan's awe before nature must be "appeal to a mass market" and nothing more. Sagan's psychology has to conform to Greer's categories. Does it?
In my reply to Greer's comment last week I put forward some remarks of William Irwin Thompson's which illustrate that scientism as a whole is just not that simple, because there is more than one type of human personality and culture present in it, and showed there are two sides to the story. Greer ignored this. I should mention that Thompson is expecting a dark age every bit as much as Greer is, and has also guffawed a great deal about what he sees as the "ideology of progress that places our industrial culture at the pinnacle of human civilization", quite rightly so (although even there — notice that isn't quite Greer's definition of "progress"). But he seems to tolerate psychological ambiguity better than Greer does. And that may be very, very important when we are claiming to be able to help people change their minds for the better.
Sagan was a true believer in the techno-progress he promulgated, but his sense of wonder at Nature, from what little I know, seems perfectly genuine too. Contradictory? From Greer's angle it seems so — but humans are. Certainly other people whom Sagan saw (or used) as "prophets" of scientism may well have been in awe of Nature itself, as the Thompson quote makes clear. I found on another site today a reply to Greer which showed a different side to Sagan, but Greer's response on his own page was to see it as a defence of "Saint Carl" — implying anyone who wants to rebalance distortion about Sagan must be idolising Sagan! That's what I mean by not being able to tolerate ambiguity. It's very, very us-them.
Sagan's ignorant campaign against mysticism and spirituality is hardly likely to endear him to me! He comes off like a purblind fool in my eyes, on that subject, when I chance to stumble across him. But the picture of scientism as "nothing but" this (anti-Druidry!) caricature is in fact precisely the kind of ideological rolling-over that Sagan himself, that scientism itself, resorts to in its worse pseudoskeptical moments — Druidry "nothing but" insane old-fashioned nonsense, etc.. We've all seen enough of that ("cold pricklies"). And it is precisely the kind of thing we need to avoid in getting people out of their fixed ideas about the future, in my opinion. (Which leads me to wonder whether Greer hasn't perhaps been contemplating the enemy too long and begun to imitate it, another process he's warned others about!)
I admit, another reason I have a problem with all this is my recent research for the series I talked about last post, which revealed in the previous three hundred years an incredibly multiform resource to draw on spiritually for the next three hundred. I began research primed by my interest in Greer's writing to notice progress ideology wherever I found it, knowing it would need careful questioning in light of the reality ahead. But things weren't quite that simple when I actually looked in detail. Perhaps this was because I was researching spiritual people — but then, Greer avoids discussion of spirituality on his blog.
"Progress" sometimes was very important to the people I researched, and I made a point of featuring it — I'll start out my series with a guy who was one of the most progressy of all. But to examine his ideas, and many others, I had to look in practical detail at particular subtleties of thought about the future. When I did that, a single overall ideology of progress was not present. Yes, I've seen a couple of people who are close to caricature "progress religionists" in spiritual form (hello, Ken Wilber!), but they are definitely a minority.
Deciding that "progress" is the problem, above all other problems, is perhaps a natural piece of rhetoric for someone with Greer's inherent conservative slant, but it is a concept he has barely defined, and certainly he hasn't given anyone's definition apart from his own (except maybe he'll give Nietzsche's!) How do we know it holds with the kind of breadth he's claiming? Is he possibly thinking the problem into a box which it doesn't altogether fit? At the moment I think he might be. Above all, I think the post-Abrahamic period has been characterised by enormous multiplicity and ambiguity, and deciding what to take forward that best prepares us is a process requires careful understanding of multiplicity, at least as much or more than simplifying into a single intolerant "religion".
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Adding a rescue...need advise.
Hi everyone,
I have a sweet, but spoiled large male German Shepherd. He came from a wonderful breeder and I've been in love since the day I brought him home. He is now four years old, and I'd like to get him a little sister. Originally, I was going to get another full breed shepherd, but decided I didn't want my new pup to be as large. I have decided to rescue and wasn't sure how to "pick" the new sibling. I don't need a "puppy" so I'm open to an older girl, but I'm worried about how my boy will react to another dog in the house. I've pampered this beast and he is truly a sweetheart, loves people (everyone!) but isn't crazy about some dogs. He has been socialized a lot (day care and dog parks) and usually he does well, but there are definitely some dogs he does not react well with. Any suggestions as to how I go about choosing the new dog? Advise on the age? I appreciate any words of wisdom since I'm really not sure how to proceed.
Thank you!!
You may want to consider fostering first to see if there will be an issue with your resident dog accepting new dogs in his home.
There are a couple of ways of going down that path -- 1) you could become a foster volunteer for a local shelter/rescue to test the waters or, 2) you could find a shelter/rescue that has a foster-to-adopt program where a specific dog you are interested in adopting is given a trial foster period in your home before the adoption is finalized.
In any event, wish you the best of luck in your search for a new addition to your home.
Thank you. I did think about fostering, but just wasn't sure I could re home the pup again. :(. In your experience, would a puppy be a better choice than say a year old? Thanks!
My gut reaction is to a low-key adolescent female, a little on the submissive side. If you're up to it and want to earn some angel wings, you might even consider a shy female who would benefit from your male's good socialization, and draw confidence from him. I've seen several females like that bond very deeply with slightly older, well socialized males--it's neat when the males become very nurturing of them.
I love the foster-to-adopt idea!
If that's not an option, be very clear with the rescue that you need a play date (or two) at a dog park during hours when the park is pretty empty (early AM, usually). Also, you want a lengthy home visit with the dog. My home visits are usually a couple of hours long for this very reason. Some rescues will also let you try a dog out over a weekend.
Also, mind the introduction of the dogs at home to maximize your chance of success. I strongly recommend that you meet the dog you are considering in your front yard, with your dog already leashed up, and then you all go for a walk as a pack through the neighborhood instead of doing a dog-to-dog greeting right away. The dogs sniff each other as they are walking and moving, but it takes the tension way down. After a nice walk, then everyone goes into the backyard together, and if things are going well, leashes get dropped, so the dogs can interact now. After a while, everyone goes in the house together. This method works SO much better than just walking into the house with a a new dog.
Tell us more about your male, and we can offer more thoughts about what kind of dog to look for. What dogs does he react to? What dogs does he play with?
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You sound like a wonderful home!! I would also go with a female, but maybe an adult female 4-6 years old. More chill, less puppy. Plus the older girls get looked over a lot. And I think you would be wonderful for girl that needs a home. Plus I bet your boy is not a fan of dogs up in his face. An older more settled girl will be less "HEEYYY, HIIIIII, LETS PLAY, COME ON"!!!!
I also believe that the dogs should meet on neutral ground, take a walk back to the house together. Take it slow.
Good luck and bless you for adopting!!!
PS- fostering is one of the most rewarding things you can ever do. So even if it's not a match, you will help find a dog a new home, gain enormous experience, and save 2 lives. Trust me. I have fostered for about 16 years. It always excites me to get a new foster, to evaluate, train, socialize, and find a perfect family for a wonderful dog.
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Thank you so much for all your advise. I've been wanting to add a dog for a year or two now, but Grissom is my first GSD. I'm used to extremely easy going Golden Retrievers, and was in for quite the aha moment when I saw the difference between the breeds. It's just me and Grissom so I have had four years of bonding with him. Every place I go people constantly compliment me on how friendly he is. Whenever someone comes over (even strangers) he acts like they are his long lost friends and he rubs up against them doing that awesome shepherd whine. I'm so pleased he is so amiable. However, when he sees other dogs he gets so excited. His butt goes up, his front legs go down, he's wagging his tail and he is in full play mode....but yesterday we were at the beach and he growled....yikes....at a 3 month old Golden Retriever puppy! I was shocked!!!! This started to worry me. Hence, my coming to this valuable site for guidance. I'm hoping that I haven't raised a spoiled "only" child. :(
I won't go in to all the detail about Sadie & Bear, but to make a very, very long story short, Sadie is 12 and Bear is 6. Both from different homes, both horribly abused. They are the best shepherd "couple" I've had the pleasure to own.
Evaluate the dog's needs as much as your own wants/needs. Some dogs flourish with a packmate, some dogs do better alone.
I ended up with a young female just months after adopting Cable. Some days it's fine and dandy, other days I wish it was just Cable. The circumstances were such that it was for the betterment of the female(Allie) and returning her is not an option. Cable can go either way, he's stable and pretty hard, BUT I really do think he'd really shine as an only dog. Allie loves her big brother and they play awesome, just sometimes I can see the frustration Cable endures when he wants some human/dog quality time.
Hmmm, good thoughts. I try to give Grissom enough exercise time, but I think he is bored. That is why a second dog started brewing in my mind. My sister has two dogs, both are very, very lazy. Grissom spends most of his energy waving a toy in their faces hoping someone, anyone will play with him. Both of those dogs just go and lay down. They are not active dogs at all. Then my beast starting barking at the tv. That's when it hit me that he could just be bored. I thought by adding a sibling, and rescuing, it would be a good thing all around. Now, I'm not so sure.
Post 8 has some links you might find useful:
Rescue dog:
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And multi dog household:
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Introducing a New Dog into a Home with other Dogs
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Post subject: Clipping tree tops north of Hibbing.
It is possible that most of you have heard this story already but I thought it was midly interesting...
(Because of the Star Tribune's attempts at forcing registration to read their articles, I have copy/pasted it here):
Thieves take tops of 20,000 trees
Curt Brown, Star Tribune
Published November 26, 2003 TREE26
In a case of the Grinch meets Paul Bunyan, the tops of up to 20,000 black spruce trees were stolen this month from an 18-acre tract of state land 40 miles north of Hibbing.
State forestry officials suspect that they will be sold as 4-foot tabletop Christmas trees in New York and Chicago. No arrests have been made, but the investigation is intensifying.
"They're nothing more than thieves, is what they are," said Brian Buria, a conservation officer for the Department of Natural Resources in Bigfork. "This was not a mistake."
Authorities say the tree rustlers probably took more than a week to remove several truckloads of spruce tops. Gone are between 10,000 and 20,000 treetops, valued at up to $80,000.
The thieves spared a 50-foot-wide buffer of trees so anyone driving on Hwy. 65 wouldn't notice anything awry.
The state forest is in the southeastern corner of Koochiching County just south of the map dot known as Rauch.
But on Nov. 18, a logger named Richard Manick noticed a dark-colored Dodge Dakota pickup truck pulling out of the woods hauling a covered white trailer about 8 feet wide and 16 to 20 feet long.
"He thought they might be stranded in there, but they said they weren't having any problems," said Larry Olson, a DNR forestry supervisor from Hibbing. "He figured they were deer hunters and didn't bother getting a license plate. But he was a little suspicious and followed their tracks and found all these spruce trees missing."
The stolen treetops were about 1 inch in diameter and 3 feet to 6 feet tall, clipped or sawed from 16-foot trees and hauled off in bundles. Investigators are checking with Christmas tree wholesalers in the Twin Cities area and St. Cloud.
"These tabletop Christmas trees are shipped all over the country and sold in New York and Chicago," Buria said. "There has got to be a main distributor, so there should be a paper trail."
Buria said bottled water from Buhl was found at the scene, leading investigators to consider possible suspects in that Iron Range town about 40 miles south of the ravaged forest. He said that a woman with a car was also seen in the area, and that the trailer had been in the woods for weeks. At least three people are believed to have been involved. If caught, the thieves could face felony theft and trespassing charges.
"We've had the occasional trespass, but nothing like this in my career," said Olson, who has worked in the DNR's Hibbing office since 1969.
Buria said the closest cabin to the crime scene was occupied by off-duty St. Paul police officers, "who didn't have a clue and figured the activity in the woods was deer hunters setting up a stand."
The trees were part of a state plantation, seeded from the air 10 years ago, according to DNR spokeswoman Jean Goad in Grand Rapids. She said the trees eventually would have been auctioned to commercial foresters and probably used as pulp at paper mills.
The proceeds of those state timber sales go to a school trust fund, a deal cut in Minnesota's early days to earmark timber profits to help finance education. She said what's left of the trees now resembles bushes and has little commercial value.
"Ten years of work down the tubes," Buria said. "I wonder how many other state tree plantations have been hit because these people have gone unchecked for years."
He said he's heard reports of bough pickers earning up to $20,000 a year removing pine branches for wreaths.
"These people bounce around and you can't nail them because they up and move every few months, so it's hard to find them," Buria said.
Anyone with information about the stolen treetops is asked to call the DNR regional enforcement office in Grand Rapids at 218-327-4424.
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A 26 year old Chisholm man has been charged with theft, trespass and criminal damage for this. Maximum penaly of 5 years in prison and/or $10,000 fine for the theft charge. the criminal damage is a max of 5 years/$10,000 fine. The trespass is 1 year and/or $3,000. They are still investigating for others involved.
Happy Holidays everyone.
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Wayne Law student awarded Freeman Fellowship
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DETROIT — Wayne State University student Rachel Hom will be packing her bags soon for summer study in the Netherlands.
Hom, who lives in Shelby Township, has been awarded the $5,000 Freeman Fellowship, which pays for one law student each year to attend The Hague Academy of International Law, the academic wing of the International Court of Justice.
She's a rising third-year law student, and a rising star, as well, according to Professor Gregory Fox, director of Wayne Law's Program for International legal Studies. He said the Freeman Fellowship is quite an opportunity.
"The leading international lawyers in the world give the courses, and the students are mostly law Ph.D. candidates from Europe," he said. "Not many Americans go. So it is quite special that Wayne can send someone each year."
After her study at The Hague, Hom, like others who go to the academy, will be able to continue her professional and personal alliance though the Association of the Attenders and Alumni of the Academy. The American chapter of the group is sponsored by Wayne Law.
Hom, who earned her undergraduate degree in political science and sociology at the University of Michigan, said she chose Wayne for law school based on its "regional reputation and strong community presence."
"I continue to be amazed by the tangible connections to opportunities across the country and worldwide," she said. "What I appreciate most is the community environment that Wayne Law breeds through its professors and faculty, students and alumni. While law school is still an inherently intimidating and challenging endeavor, I think it makes all the difference in the world to have the support of the people around you."
She was drawn to international law once she started at the school.
"I had limited knowledge of international law, and therefore credit Wayne Law's extensive and growing international department for sparking my interests in the field through courses and opportunities such as Jessup International Moot Court and International Public Interest Fellowships."
As a Jessup team member, Hom spent a year "researching, writing and arguing international issues simulated within the International Court of Justice, which I will have a chance to visit this summer," she said.
She spent last summer as an International Public Interest Fellow working at The Bahamas Crisis Centre, which she said was "one of the most rewarding experiences I could imagine in law school, and also on a personal level."
She worked with victims of domestic violence, and also was able to work doing research with a law professor at The College of The Bahamas and with the office of the Bahamian attorney general.
"The work greatly enhanced my research skills, while deepening my understanding of specific areas of law and general purview beyond American law," Hom said.
After graduation, she plans a career as a litigator in Detroit focusing on "a mix of local and international practice areas."


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I don't have experience with that brand,but the Rock Islands are in the same range and appear to be pretty good base guns.The biggest factor is going to be the machining of the frame and slide,if dimentioned correctly it will make a good base as long as material and heat treaiong are good.
Be aware that 1911s are not AR15s,nothing drops in.There are parts that will drop in,but you also have to know if it's correct.Drop in trigger packages do drop in,but some also go full auto or the hammer drops to 1/2 cock shortly after.A drop in "match grade" barrel may shoot worse than the original.I also wouldn't buy parts from cross manuacturers outside of the semi-customs like Brown,Wilson,etc.These are generally on the large side to fit to individual guns because different makers set their own specs,they all don't stick to the original 1911 prints.
If you are going to do this,buy the gun of course and shoot it.Get both of Kunhausen's books and search out good data to expand on that knowledge,and study those with the gun.They are a simple gun,but there's alot going on that just doesn't jump out and you see.Something like a simple trigger swap has failed and caused hammer drop and full auto.It's a simple part,you fit the shoe to go through the frame slot and there's a bow that surrounds the mag to get back to the lockwork,make it slide in the frame freely without binding and you're done.Now your hammer drops or you get full auto or burst fire,"?".There's more than meets the eye,so learn the gun first.
For parts,Brownells and Midway are very good sources,along with a few true custom makers.EGW doesn't build guns any more but they make some of the best parts in the buisness.
Good luck.


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