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While planning his move from New York to San Francisco, New York Times Lead Bits Blogger Nick Bilton had an important decision to make: should he pay to ship his enormous collection of print books across the country when he does most of his reading on an e-reader? The answer, to me, seemed to be clearly to be "Yeah, duh! How could you not bring your books?" But after thinking about a moment more, I realized that I didn't understand where such a strong sentiment was coming from.
The e-reader vs. print debate is an annoying one because, like so many things that essentially come down to differences in personal preference, it is argued as if there is will eventually be some definitive we-solved-for-x answer. I'm in the faction of people that like to say, "We just like reading print books better" which actually translates to "We just like reading print books." I've never read an entire book in its digital form, so the idea that I like reading books more in print than on an e-reader is ridiculous. Sure I've used display models in stores, and sure I didn't particularly enjoy my experience. But then again, I hated wearing my glasses when I got them a year ago, and now I can do so many amazing things, like read the score when I watch Celtics games and sit more than three inches away from my computer screen while I write.
No, I think my true passion for print books comes from their secondary use as wall art. If it's bad to judge a book by its cover I guess it's worse to judge a book by its spine, but I guess that's exactly what I'm doing. A wall with a bookcase against it is a wall I don't need to hang a painting or a poster on to fill out the room. The spines – with their varied widths, heights, and colors – do the work of a painting. Bilton even describes his books as possessing the two qualities that make art, well, art: "beautiful and important to me." While an ebook can certainly be beautiful and important to its reader, it cannot liven up a dull, empty area of your living space the way a print book can. So while I may not always need to read books in their printed form, I feel that I'll always need books in their printed form around, to make my home feel like my home.
What about you? Are those lovely shelves worth the clutter and hassle of owning the books that fill them? Or would you just as soon throw them into the shredder?
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My books are my trophies. They are how I say "Look at how awesome a reader I am." I also grew up in a house with book shelves on every wall. I don't feel like I am home unless I have that.
I love print books and have thousands around the house. However, since I got my Nook, I'm probably 75% e-books these days and climbing.
I once had a bedroom that was surrounded in bookshelves. There was only a tiny little space between my bed and the shelves. I would have to turn sideways to and shimmy into bed each night.
Now I just have the kindle and one tall book shelf left. It holds the books I'll need in case of the apocalypse. It stands there collecting dust as most of those books are on the kindle too...
I'm happier, I have more room, the cat that used to live on top of my bookshelves... not so much. Currently she is sitting under my bicycle glaring at me.
It's sad and liberating at the same time.
I have the same response, and I try to keep an open mind about e-readers and book-less folks, but I'm a writer and an English professor, and I have attachments to books. Ridiculous co-dependant attachments. Every time I move I go through the same fight with myself "Do I pack up all of these, or do I let them go?" Then, I wind up packing all of them. Last move was 900 miles, and I packed 72 boxes of books.
I wish I had the willpower to let them go. I know that anything available on an e-reader will be the same as the print form, but it doesn't feel right. And, like you, I'm not sure where that impulse comes from. Maybe it's the feeling that a bookcase without books is a tragedy?
I do a lot of sitting around in my car waiting (I'm an inspector), and the e-reader is perfect because it finds my page, its easy to put away in the glove compartment, there's always another book ready if I finish one early in the day and I've got nothing else to read (don't own a smartphone).
Its easy to rest against the steering wheel on my leg while I eat my lunch or something and only requires really one hand to turn a page, as opposed to the paper books where I pretty much need two hands at least when I need to turn a page.
True, I read an Umberto Eco book (really quite long) in the paper format in my car last summer, it is doable, but the e-reader is much more convenient for what I use it for. I hardly ever read at home except articles online.
I suppose for people who do all of their reading in bed or at a desk or a couch or something, the real difference is basically just personal preference, but at least for this one e-reader user, paper books have literally no advantages an e-reader.
EDIT: I didn't read the comments before but I can see that I'm pretty much the opposite kind of reader that you guys are. I don't have any bookshelves and own only a few books (not nearly enough to fill up a wall, my goodness!). I read to pass the time, not because its my favorite thing in the world.
I agree wholeheartedly, I take pride in my book collection. I also like being able to share a book with a friend without commiting a felony.
Will there come a time when Charles Addams and R Crumb books are on an e-reader? I hope not.
I always keep a few ebooks on my phone for times when I'm caught somewhere without something else to read.
But for the most part, I'm sticking with paper. Ebooks offer a pretty sterile experience as far as I'm concerned. There's nothing at all evocative about a text file, while every physical book I read enhances the experience in a dozen different ways, from the covers and typefaces to the signs of wear.
And I'm also a chronic flipper-through of books. I like being able to jump back in the story to clarify something, or to browse around in a nonfiction book. Doing the electronic equivalent is much clunkier and less satisfying.
Then, of course, there's the price of ebooks. With current list hardcovers, I understand the need for premium pricing. But no way will I pay $9.99 for a text file when I can get the physical book at a used bookstore for half that price (or a library for free).
For me, the major shortcoming of ebooks and ebook stores is that they lack the serendipity and adventure of finding something unexpected, especially in a used book store. The best finds are books that have gone out-of-print and cut-outs. There's no guarantee that everything worth reading stays in print and makes to the ebook world.Without the noble used book store, you'll never experience the fun of finding something that you never imagined existed, and that you only came across because you happened to glance at a shelf as you were passing by.
Very few of the books on my shelves are available as ebooks, so they're staying.
That said, for ordinary novel reading, ebooks are great!
Well, ironically, this morning, the neighbor next door was having a yardsale and had a number of books up for grabs. My daughter and I, the avid readers of the family, ran to her house. She had books like the blindside etc. Lots of books. My daughter went through and picked out eight, I also picked up a couple and ironically my son found a couple.
The neighbor and I were discussing how horrible it is that book stores are going out of business. Then we were discussing just this. Is a book better than an e-reader. We decided yes. A book is better. When you curl upwith a good book, just the sound as you turn the page is just comforting. the feel of the weight of the book as you flip the pages and it gets lighter on the right is comforting. And to be able to slide in a book mark and see how far you have gotten in the time you spent reading is rewarding. Yes E-readers make some things easier, but for me the book will always be the most amazing part of reading.
I completely empathized with this post...and with the dilemma of a book lover considering the move to an eBook reader.
I love love LOVE my books. I love the smell of them. The feel of the pages. (I won't buy a book, if the paper doesn't feel "right" to me!) I love the covers. I love reading the inside cover and seeing print information and the name of the cover artist. I love the way walls of books warm up a room...and make handy "platforms" for objets' d'art. I love knowing that when I read "Man's Search for Meaning" on the bus, Harvard PhD students will hit on me. (Best intellectual "pick up" book, EVER! ;)) I love having thousands of books, and the conversations that are started when people visit me, and see my bookshelves. They can tell I'm "smart", because I have lots of antiques, and classics--and I know they're "smart", if they tell me their favorite Austen character, and don't say anything like, "So, you READ all these books?" ;)
And despite working in IT, I LOATHE reading things on a computer screen...so I was very, very anti-eBook reader.
But the reality is...I read approximately 45 books a month...and not only is finding a place to put all those lovely books difficult, but when faced with a recent move to a new city--where I knew I would be stuck in temporary digs for about three months, possibly more, and there was simply NO WAY I could bring the 300 or so books that I really felt were the bare minimum to make life worth living during that time--I realized I had to make some difficult decisions.
I did the math--and realized that for $139 I could tuck more than 1,000 Project Gutenberg books in my purse--the world's best security blanket!--and decided that even though I didn't WANT an eReader, it was the best way to go, to make it through that 3 month period of time.
What I didn't count on was the fact that the Kindle is SO comfortable to read on! And I regained time and lost stress each and every morning, by no longer having to go through my bookshelves, trying to figure out which book to read in the bath...and then which book to read to get me through the commute to and from work, and on my lunch break!
There were no more worries if I wanted to read Auntie Mame--no more careful planning to make sure I read the first 80 pages at home, since all those pages and the front cover are falling apart! I no longer found myself in the position of being ready to start home, and finishing my book BEFORE THE BUS CAME--and having to turn to the front of the book, and start all over again--just so I'd have something to read!
Nope--suddenly, I had most of my favorite books with me, at all times. Including many books that I loved, but hated to take out in public to read, because they were 100+ year old first editions. Autographed. And they were FREE!!!!
Previously--I'd only been able to read John Halifax, Gentleman, and The Little [word that means crippled] Prince, by Dinah M Craik--getting my hands on anything else was too hard. NOW, I had close to *20* books and stories by her--again, FREE!
I was able to read ALL the Five Little Pepper Books, and confirm that I hadn't been missing ANYTHING. Phronsie was ALWAYS annoying, and Grandfather was ALWAYS an unlovable, hair-brained martinet. And I found it out for FREE.
Vistas opened in front of me.
And so did my pocket book--as after making the final move to the new city, in permanent digs, I realized that I had WAY too much stuff, and I never, ever wanted to have a move that complicated again.
Many many many hours and dollars later, I'd managed to replace every single book I owned that was available on Kindle, with a Kindle version...and took all but the antique books and the coffee table books to the second hand bookstore.
I still have several bookshelves of books. Manuals are still more practical in print, than an ereader. And you can't beat a book for "looking" through--so all the coffee table books stay...and the antiques are too much a part of my soul to go...and poetry books and children's books need to be read aloud, from a book, for full enjoyment--so there are many, many reasons to keep my books--but there's also about another two to three boxes of books that are on a "waiting for Kindle" wishlist at Amazon...and as soon as they're available on Kindle, they'll go, too.
I miss having them all around me. I miss all the questions I used to get, when reading in public, about what I was reading (now the question is, "Is that a Kindle?). I miss the secretive, smug glances that I can exchange with other readers who are reading "your kind" of books--the camraderie from seeing someone reading your favorites. And I feel a little lost, sometimes, now that information I used to wear on the outside is no longer as readily available--as a monster copy of David Copperfield commands a lot more respect than a slim little Kindle! (On the other hand, I don't miss feeling vaguely ashamed, when I wanted to take a book out in public that didn't satisfy my Inner Intellectual Snob: true, no one knows when I'm reading The Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire--but they also don't know when I'm reading a trashy romance! ;))
But mostly, I am happy and satisified...because my books are always with me, no matter where I go. It's a marriage made in heaven.
(And we all lived happily ever after.)
[Edit: apparently this forum subsitutes silly acronyms for certain words...hence some rather clunky workarounds of mine, in this post!]
I while I ago I realized that I didn't enjoy reading books so much as I enjoyed reading novels. Or short stories. Or histories. Or whatever. Books are just a way to convey the author's story to me.
So I can carry around a paper book, say the Complete Sherlock Holmes, which weighs some 3.5lbs. I've had this edition for some twenty years and the font size is no longer so kind to my eyes. At 3.5lbs it's darned uncomfortable to read. And turning pages can be a chore.
Or I can carry around my nook. With The Complete Sherlock Holmes on it. And the complete Shakespeare. and Proust's Rememberance. All seven volumes. And the Civil War trilogy by Shelby Foote. And Catton's trilogy... And some 1400 other (trashier) friends.
All at less than a pound, including the optional cover. With multiple fonts and font sizes. And easy to turn pages. And a form factor that doesn't require me to weigh down paper pages while reading while eating. And I can read what I want in public without being judged for it.
So for reading novels and such, it's a no brainer for me. Is it more sterile than reading a paper book? Perhaps. But I say the novel is independent of its format and I chose to read that novel in the easiest, most convenient format I can find.
I own both an e-reader and many books but my views seem to differ from the others who have commented here. I tend to buy books on my e-reader when I'm not sure I'll like the series so I can cut my losses, however if I find I enjoy the series then all subsequent books I'll preorder the hardcover and read the book in 2 days or less.
I more or less approach book buying the same way I approach buying games. I'll buy games I enjoy on steam but games I treasure I tend to purchase the collectors edition although I don't really benefit from the extras.
I am an aspiring writer. (aspiring = procrastinator and will never actually write a book) I love books like crazy and always have.
When I bought my house this year, the house wasn't MINE until my tall book shelf was full of my books. 5 boxes of books were missing and I felt so empty until they were found.
However, I do have a Nook. I like the Nook when I want to ready a book at work or something, and to get online quickly at home (not have to wait for the laptop to boot up). Its very convenient like that, and I've started loading it up with research books.
However, I very much enjoy walking up to my bookshelf and looking for something that I want to page through. And I can't get everything I want on the Nook. It's hard to find certain non-fiction, research type books for it, at least in my experience.
While I completely agree with you: I enjoy the sight of bookshelf as opposed to the sight of finder folder full of pdfs, I have to admit moving all this mess from Philadelphia to New York is a chore. I couldn't imagine how anyone gets their crap across country and eventually I have to move back to Hawaii. Gross. I love how books fit so neatly into banker's boxes, but after you fill the box up, it weighs between 50lbs and 80lbs. I swear I got a little more muscly in the four hours it took to move my library in and out of that Budget truck.
The Nook is cool if only because I'd rather read my wealth of PDF papers on there. An E-Reader is wAAAAAy better than a laptop, because I can guarantee something will actually get read if I can read it on the subway. I never finish long PDF's on my laptop. I can keep up for about a half an hour before I open up Command and Conquer.
But if I can find something in hardback form -that's my preference.
Tablets are another story although I love everyone's articulated reasons for wanting/owning one. It does everything my 2002 palmphone did... except make calls. One of my Blackberry toting buddies said she wanted an iPad because "like what if I'm out and I want to check my email?" Really? Your email?
At least an E-reader looks great in any light and lasts for weeks on a charge. I don't need to shoot birds at pigs. That's just inviting police brutality.
I think I am with most of the others here. I have been an avid book reader for most of my life, and have always had books at hand.
I like others here, have given ebooks a try. My daughter upgraded to a nook color, and handed down her old nook to me. I like it, but I don't think I'd ever get rid of my printed books.
There are books I have that I don't think will ever be offered in ebook format, like service manuals for my 1965 MGB or a technical manual on the M1911.
I like the nook for it's portability and convenience, but I print books are here to stay, at least for me.
My house is decorated in "library." I have bookehelves in every room except the bathroom where the top of the toilet tank always has a few stacked on it. One time when I moved I gave away about half of my sci-fi collection. When I got to my new home city I had to go out a find all those books again and reacquire them. All of them. Except for Triplanetary by E.E. Doc Smith which I am still looking for. Oh, it's available as an e-book but how is a e-reader going to look shoved into my bookshelf next to First Lensman. Sure, the short stories I write are published for the e-readers, but what sort of an artist would I be if I could afford one for myself? Nope, I'm keeping my books.
It is a conundrum, for sure. I have bookcases all over the house, and LOVE going to used bookstores. My wife once told me that she enjoys going with me to hear my sharp intake of breath when I find an old out-of-print title I had been looking for.
That said... I love my Nook for new purchases, and what really sold me on it was the time that I was reading at the beach in Ogunquit, Maine. I finished the ebook I was reading, browsed for a new one, purchased it, and was reading it - all without getting up from my blanket. All of a sudden I realized that I was living in the future :-).
That said, I don't think I will ever get rid of the many books I own now (especially some of the more rare 1st editions). However, the physical collection is not growing nearly as fast as it used to (maybe one or two purchases per month are real books, and six to ten are ebooks).
Like several other wooters, my home abounds with bookshelves and printed books. The last time I moved there were 13 boxes of books, and that's not counting the boxes that I stuffed a few books in to fill the last nook or cranny.
Every room in my home has a bookshelf except the kitchen and laundry room (yes, my bathroom has a small bookshelf).
But I've also owned several ereaders, starting with a Sony PRS 500 (returned to Sony because the Adobe Acrobat support was abysmal!). I currently have a Nook and an iPad, but neither is a perfect solution.
The Nook turns pages too slowly for my liking, and the iPad is too heavy to hold for very long without needing to rest it on something. I probably own 30-40 eBooks.
There are a couple of things that keep me switching completely over to eBooks.
1. Cost. Most eBooks cost as much or more than the hardback version of the book, which makes no sense from a publishing perspective...except the greed of the publishers. If the eBooks costs more than a paperback, why would I buy the eBook?
2. Niggling eReader issues.
The Nook is horribly slow at turning pages, something that annoys me every time I use it. It will soon be for sale on everyone's favorite auction site.
The Nook app (that's no longer available to download) for iPad is horrible because it had no way to organize your eBooks. Imagine storing your printed library in a big pile in your house, with not even the option to group them into separate shelves or even rooms? I say old, because the Nook app for iPad has been pulled from the Apple store for a required update (no announced released date for the new version).
I have the Kindle app on my iPad with a few books, but I refuse to do business with Amazon anymore. I know Woot is now owned by Amazon, so I'll keep my reasons to myself.
I've got a couple of other iPad apps for free books, and have a few 'classic' books in them.
And of course I have the iBooks app, which is pretty good, and does have the ability to organize books into categories. Not perfect, but significantly better than the Nook app.
3. Positive comments -- there are several websites that help authors self-publish their books, including the ability to buy the books from the site, usually for around $5 or so per book. And also usually with no DRM. I've found a couple of new favorite authors, and most of my recent eBook purchases have been from those types of websites.
Over the last 6 months I've probably purchased 20-25 print books, and only 4-5 eBooks. And as of this moment, I'm only anticipating one more eBook purchase in the next few months, and that's from one of the self-published authors noted in #3. I have plans to have lunch with some friends tomorrow, and afterward there's a bookstore near the restaurant that I'll probably visit, and it's unlikely that I'll leave it empty handed.
I have a collection of 350-400 books. I also have a collection of over 800 CD and 500 vinyl record albums. I am a throwback to an earlier time. I also have an iPod with over 4000 songs on it (99% from the CDs) and a big eBook collection. I am modern.
Of my book library, about 100 are signed by the authors. These will never be taken from me. I waited in line to get them signed, I spent hours of my life talking person to person with the authors at conventions and book fairs. The signatures prove I actually met them. About a half a dozen of my CDs are signed. Musicians are a harder lot to sit down with, unless they are just starting out.
I'm an American born-and-bred, but am writing from Germany. One decision I had to make before flying to Europe was which books I would bring with. Two months of my seven-month-long trip was to be spent backpacking across four countries. In the end, I brought one - ONE! - novel. Then I found a used book shop in France with an English section, and picked up a few more. I bought even more in Germany, both before and after settling into my small apartment.
When the Nook came on Woot a few months ago, I jumped on it. Books are heavy, and expensive, especially if most of what you read was written by old dead dudes. I'd played with a friend's Kindle, enjoyed the e-ink screen, and the Android hack made the Nook even more appealing. One drop-ship later, a girl in Germany got her first look at the future.
Without the Nook, I would read less. Without the Nook, I would be forcing dozens of Europe-acquired books into my overstuffed luggage, rather than pawning them off on friends who could do with a bit more reading. Without the Nook, I wouldn't have gotten so good at Sudoku -- whupps.
To sum it up, I love print books. The boxes-full that I put in storage before coming to Europe will go back to their rightful place on my wall, and when I crave to reexperience one of my favourites, it will be that copy and not a digital version that I turn to. I will still trawl library sales and used book stores, but perhaps with an eye for a different sort of book, now.
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I've gone through both engineering and chemistry, and I can honestly say that the reader world is not anywhere it needs to be for fast-paced consumption of technical materials. Flipping back and forth looking for math and examples, using multiple books simultaneously, writing errata in.
I read JACS pdf files every day, but if you really want to use the material effectively you must print it out. Every chemist I am aware of peruses articles in pdf, the prints out useful targets.My books are the same way.
It's horribly inconvenient attempting to compare data across two books and three papers electronically, while with paper I can spread it all out and hunt for details. Page marking/noting with post-its is quick and handy, and the equivalent function with pdf is time-consuming (on the seconds scale).
I also always get the feeling that reading while holding the item in question increases my focus and comprehension. Anyone else feel this way?
Having said all that I'm still trying to transition to electro books and articles using Google Docs, but until I have a monitor the size of my desk in unholy resolution, I'm going to need my print. In towering piles, no less.
Some materials are going to continue to be most useful in a print format so there will always be books. However, I agree with the many people who said that for everyday reading, it's nice to have a single source for your books without tons of bookshelves.
Having said that, I'm holding off on buying a kindle until I clear off some of the unread books on my bookshelf. I'm also not too keen on paying money to replace all of the still readable books on my shelves. Thus, it's likely that I'll buy one and only use it for new purchases.
I am moving in a few weeks and I got rid of most of my fiction books (except Anne Rice of course) but I kept all of my reference books. I only read on my kindle app so it seemed like it was finally time.
As a child I was always delighted to open a birthday or Christmas present and find a new book. How do you wrap an e-book?
I love the feel and smell of books. I want to be able to flip back and forth or make notes in the margins. I need to have books in my life, within reach at all times.
I notice bookshelves when visiting. Large, small, (gasp, none at all!), filled with impressive tomes or trashy paperbacks, or mixed with pictures or objects. Books are the windows to the soul. I will always have books.
It's true that bookshelves really suck. It only collects dust and a good hiding place of cockroaches and other insects. Also, it occupies a space in an overcrowded room of furniture. However, the things that is placed in the bookshelves something matters to me. The book or the hard copy, shall we call it, is the most precious thing that can be truly treasured. Every book acquired had a memory one can remember.
I love to read, and am almost never without a book. The entire experience is important to me, not just the data contained in them. The smell of the paper, the feel of the pages, the weight of the book itself... I have trouble stopping to think about what I've just read if I can't use my finger to mark the spot and close the book around it. I've been devouring books since I learned to read, and I wouldn't give them up for anything.
I've tried e-readers, and the experience just isn't the same. I do have a few e-reader apps that I keep on my smartphone with some of the classics (mostly the free ones) downloaded, just in case I'm stuck somewhere without a book.
It's definitely a personal preference, not an absolute one-is-better-than-the-other.
I've had a Kindle for a couple years and love to read books on it when I can sit down and read. However, I still love going to used book stores and just looking around. I don't necessarily know what I'm looking for in a book, so searching on Amazon doesn't work: I don't know what looks interesting until I'm in a store, looking at covers and titles, flipping through them and making the decision. However, I love the convenience of having a ton of books in my Kindle with no physical overhead.
Then there are manuals - these really don't work electronically for me, I need to flip back and forth, page quickly and do all sorts of things that just don't mirror the physical world yet in the world of e-readers. And I'm with some of these other posters - I love bookshelves full of interesting books, and would love someday to have a room in my house with bookshelves on every wall just filled with books. They represent knowledge that is yours if you want it!
I guess what I'm saying is that I'm torn too.
Oy, post about ebooks and of course all the book fetishists come out.
Look, I get it. I love reading too. Thing is, I love some books more than others. Just as I don't want to have every tv show and movie I've ever watched on DVD, I don't necessarily want a physical copy of every book I've ever read or want to read.
For the vast majority of people, book buying runs on a spectrum, ranging from buying at midnight the day the hardback is released, all the way to maybe picking it up off the book swap shelf at the local Java Hut, and ebooks are just another point in between, along with clearance, trade paperback, mass market paperback, etc.
Another point to remember, is that ebooks are optimized for narrative text, not journals, coffee table books, RPG books, tech manuals, or anything else in that regard. Epub3 may help with that, and more editors may learn how to better epub layout, so things may get better.
And finally, it's not about you. It's about the current crop of kids just graduating 6th and 7th grade right now. First, look at the reading lists they'll be up against between now and when they graduate from 12th grade. Now consider how many of those books are in the public domain (as well as such essential reading as Sherlock Holmes, HP Lovecraft, and Conan) and freely available from Gutenberg, and the fact that $140 isn't too extravagant for a graduation present at that age, and you'll see a a perfectly natural gift decision.
I have the problem of not really feeling like I own something if I only own it in a digital format. This includes video games, books, and especially music. I'm not a huge reader, but I love having physical books too hold and look at. I can see them on the shelf and know that they are real, instead of just a text file.
The attraction to physical media for me is much stronger with music. I've embraced digital music in the sense that I have an iPod and do my listening via iTunes, but I still have hundreds of physical CDs (which, ironically, reside on my bookshelf).
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-three mags standard
-optional manual safety (may require some searching, but they exist)
-adjustable grips
The XD does provide some really cool features, don't get me wrong. I think the grip safety and the striker indicator and really great, and the loaded chamber indicator is probably the best "standard" indicator on the market, but an extra mag with the FNP is something I know is going to get used again and again. And while this is personal preference, I like hammers much more than strikers.
Truth be told, I don't think you can go wrong either way. Still, FNP is my choice for reasons mentioned above. Have you shot either of them?

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Discussion in 'January 2008' started by max, Jan 6, 2008.
He could always play D. He's from Argentina. It's like a requirement. LOL
LPGRL, tomorrow you can get to the chatroom by hitting Quik Links above and then scrolling down and hitting FlashChat... see you tomorrow and hopefully a victory over the Spurs
Terrible loss tonight. The starters just stunk it up as a unit, way too many forced jumpers and not getting out to the perimeter on defense. The first quarter was a disaster, but strangely enough, a small lineup with Herrmann on the floor for the last 8 minutes of the first half (Sheed was the only big man) led to a nice run to close the Dallas to lead to 5 at halftime, with Herrmann mostly helping by annoying Dirk on D. But the starters blew it again in the third, almost a repeat of the first quarter. They did actually came out of the half with good defense for the first few minutes of the quarter, but the forced jumpers put them back in the hole again and Dallas never looked back after catching fire from behind the 3-point arc. Now they have to win in San Antonio tomorrow night just to avoid a 3-game losing streak. I guess the one silver lining of the evening was that the Pistons didn't lose as embarrassingly as the Celtics did...no Ray Allen, but that's not much of an excuse for losing at home to the Bobcats, which happened tonight as JRich dropped 34 on them.
I left and didn't see the second half, other than the last 3 minutes of the game, but the first qtr was ugly defensive wise as the Mavs literally hit almost all of their outside shots and inside jumpers. Dirk was Dirk until Fabio decided to check him in the second. Meanwhile we were even missing shots in the paint with a bunch weak shots by both Tay and CB. The defense suffered from Sheeds 2 first qtr fouls. Fabio sparked a second qtr offense as the Pistons came back to within 5 at the half. I will have to watch the tape to see what happen after that, but I bet the interior defense was exposed again and we probaly got out manned in and out pointed in the paint
i wish the starters woulda told me before the game that they were mailing this one in, because then i would've mailed it in as well and not bothered watching. not much else to say. the starters didn't care, they jacked up long shots early in the clock with no chance of rebounding. max has to recognize a double team and pass out of it. if brezec is being shopped, fine, but if not, why is he getting minutes over amir johnson in garbage time?
Listening to Flip's post game "we didn't give enough effort" blah-blah, blah-blah He always passes the buck and never takes any blame.
^ I actually left mid 3rd quarter, and went to get Starbucks so i didn't see the rest of the game, but in generally speaking; There was no cohesiveness out there. It looked exactly like when the team was fractured throughout the ECF last year. It seems like half the players have quit on the coach, and the other half are just apathetic. When the team isn't on the same page, they usually look like what we've saw tonight. Flip isn't cutting it. We found a defensive match-up that worked against Nowitizki (which is well-known around the league) and abandoned it. I also don't think it's coincidental that our defense getting worse (esp perimeter) coincides with AA not playing more. That line-up in the 2nd was holding it's own defensively. The starters just didn't have it. They took jumpshot after jumpshot with no repercussion. Tay is killing us, and i also thought his quotes before the game were quite telling. Don't have a link but something about not knowing if the Pistons have the mind-set or hoping they did before going into Texas. Flip doesn't care apparently about points in the paint or points given up in the paint even though getting/giving easy baskets is CRUCIAL to a championship team. The difference in energy with the bench/starters is so drastic sometimes, it's palpable when you're watching it. I still think the starting line-up needs to be shaken up. Amir NEEDS to play. We desperately need shot-blocking, and rebounding. Sheed can't do it by himself, and frankly looks as fed up with the quick jumpshots/getting burned on the perimeter as we are. This team isn't going anywhere with Flip, and even though it's early in the season i've been convinced for awhile. You can't teach an old dog new tricks, and i'm getting sick of watching the prime of this team go by with his incompetence. My faith in Joe D is taking a hit as well. I keep holding onto the fact that it's a money issue, but that's not really a good excuse anymore. Thanks Dre for the link. I eventually figured it out LOL. I'll be watching tomm. I must be masochist or something. edited to add; Does anyone remember the last time we got beat, and came out swinging LB style?
This is the most baffling thing to me of all this. Joe D said he would play. Amir said he would play. The beat writers say he will play. Hell, even Flip said he would play at one point. Who's really in control here?
We need to start Maxiel. The good teams get into our jumper oriented start and so Dyss cannot help us as they get out on his jumper. We need Maxiel on the block. Dyss's defense does not make up for not helping offensively. Sanders offense does not fly against the good defenses as we open with a series of jumpers. The good teams get out on us and we are in trouble. We will need to add a big. The coaching staff is still an issue. What has happened the last two years may not be fixed yet.
Most lopsided loss of the season. The starters just didn't show up, they played lackadaisically on both sides of the ball most of the night. Play like that against San Antonio and you're toast, Pistons. A 3-big rotation isn't enough, that's been made obvious by at least 2 of our losses. And, Flip's excuse of Max/Dice/Sheed playing sooo well as the reason Amir doesn't play has been proven to be BS all the way. Kid needs to put on some weight, certainly, but he's better at guarding jumpshooting big men than any of our bigs outside of Sheed (who didn't show up tonight) and he's better than frickin' Tayshaun at stopping dribble penetration. Brezec coming in before him pissed me off. Even in garbage time, Flip? Cripes. That spaz should just be cut. He has no D to speak of, and he may have a jumper, but no one's gonna pass him the ball. I give no value to height without mobility/skill. Our starting guards couldn't guard a pole either, and neither could Tayshaun. The coach needs to show some balls and yank some of these guys for performances like this one. He certainly has no qualms about yanking bench guys who're actually helping.
Did you guys notice Flip's interview right before halftime where he basically threw out his weak sauce analysis "... yeah, I thought that they did a good job hitting shots, and we didn't hit as many shots, so that is something that we are going to have to do better in the 2nd half..." yeah. He always does that. Anyways, Herrmann being the Dirk stopper and also leading the team in assists was pretty unexpected. Stuckey with 3 steals. Whatever, Dallas was hitting shots and we weren't and we have to do a better job of improving that ...
I decided not to watch the second half and just review the box score...the rebounds were even, assists about the same. About the same number fouls called on each team too. The difference of course was in the shooting., plus of course they beat us in the paint 38-26 so what else is new.>?? You know if tay gets stuffed on a dunk attempt in the opening minutes, it will be long game for him and yep he was 1-7 from the field including one real weak shot in front of the hoop after grabbing a rebound. The posteration of JMAX by Bass in the second qtr must have have damaged his psyche as he was 1-5 from the field. Our bench got out pointed 41-31 and it is obvious bringing JTerry off the bench is working great for the Mavs....Stackhouse sat out last Sundays game with a injury just so he could torch us tonight and sure enough three pops from beyond the arc did some damage. but alas it was the Dirkster who did us in with array of rainbow shots over Sheed and Dice. One positive tonight was that Fabio broke out with a nice defensive effort on dirk in the second qtr..otherwise Dirk ,may have scored over 30...plus Fabio led the team in assists with 4
Young players. The announcers really made something out of the garbage time our young players got. Sorry, touting the party line does not make it any less painfully obvious that Amir Johnson did not get to play, even in a blowout, until less than 3 minutes left in the game. Just to give everyone a taste of what Saunders thinks of young players playing, Zaret started the broadcast by saying Stuckey and Afflalo were making mistakes from being nervous in the Boston game. (Quoting Saunders) Really. Did Zaret watch the game? Afflalo only played 3 minutes of that game. Stuckey had his minutes limited, never getting any chance to really get into the game. Neither player showed any signs of nerves. Indeed, neither player has yet to do so this year. These two are a couple of very poised players. But, hey, back to this game. Dyess started the game. Why? He made a couple of jumpers after we got way behind in the 1st quarter. He drew no fouls. He played no D. He was basically a very bad fit for this game. Anyone else notice that during our comeback in the 2nd, Tay and Rip were missing their shots? Some help. Now, for the game, Rip did make some shots at least. Can't complain too much about his performance. Billups hit his share of shots too. Sheed did too, while playing decent D, sometimes all alone though. Hayes was invisible. Another guy Flip just automatically gives minutes to, regardless of the situation. JMAX gave us some energy, but had somewhat of an offnight on his scoring. But then again, he did not play that much either. He should be starting. (While Dyess fights for minutes between him, Brezec, Herrmann, and Amir.) Hermann got to play a lot. But yet, as many have pointed out, he could have come in early in the 3rd quarter after it was obvious he could guard Dirk. Indeed, really he should have started the 3rd quarter. Yes, and on the subject of getting prepared for the playoffs, the fact that Herrmann played is a very good thing. To me, its more important that he got the minutes he did vs. the outcome of this still early in the season game. Amir had a highlight, getting a fast break rebound putback slam. Afflalo got hot shooting in the 4th. Stuckey got to double figures. Stuckey played 22 minutes. And since Dallas did for some odd reason keep some of their starters in during garbage time, it was better than usual garbage time practice for Stuckey at the end of the game. Our starters should be rested for SA at least.
Found this on mlive's comment section. Guy has some great points.
I think they still are in Toronto and forgot to leave. At least that's what it looks like. Ringing up wins against weaker opposition, and when going gets tough the team just falls apart. Hey, I'm not going to call this panic time, but it's just not looking good. I will allow that team can have a couple of bad games after an 11-game winning streak, but why wouldn't the youngsters get the playing time when the game is over?
As they said in the old days Right on Mik. 11 wins over a few non contenders and now they come up against some real comp and their weaknesses are exposed. But lets not past judgement yet until we see what team shows up tomorrow night...the second best team in basketball or the sixth best behind the Celtics, Mavs, Suns, Spurs and Lakers.
At least I got lucky to watch the game with that FF button.
I just read an article where Flip said Hermann was the only guy that oculd stop Dirk. So why didn't he start the 3rd quarter, or come in after a few minutes?
Because he does not sit a starter unless he has multiple fouls or misses the bus. Otherwise you get to start and there are no lineup changes no matter how bad the designated starting five are playing. I mean these are grown men and he shouldn't worry about hurting anybody's feelings, but Flip is stubborn and relies on vets whether they are rundown or not and that is why he has never got that 12th victory in the post season. I sure hope he has his laptop with him and reads this tonight
It just sounds retarded. I have a guy who can neutralize the best player on the opposing team, but I'll keep him stuck to the bench because I have the "designated starters". Oh yeah, I also have a defensive stopper on the team, but I'd rather keep him on the bench too because I may hurt Rip's feelings. Is it a coincidence, but Pistons best defense was played in the 2nd quarter with mainly reserves on the floor.
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tgentry wrote:I saw a guy wearing The Cheese is a Liederkranz behind me in line at Lowes this weekend. I would have said something but I felt bad for holding up the line buying a washing machine.
I think he would have been thrilled to meet such a big Woot star such as yourself! I'm not trying for brownie points, just sayin' I'd be super psyched if I randomly met another woot artist in person. Actually I hope I don't cuz I would probably be so spastic with happiness that I'd scare them away.
On another topic... this isn't a woot sighting but it's a cute story about a woot shirt so I guess it can go here. I wore "Toucan Sheds his Tint" to work today. I work at a preschool and one of the two-year-olds looked at it and said "There's..there's a bird on your shirt, teacher! Oh no the color is coming off its..its nose!" It was the cutest thing ever.
So I'll be at C2E2 this weekend. I plan on making totally-not-awkward "conversation" with people wearing woot shirts by pointing at them and shouting "hey, woot shirt! Cool!" and then they'll either ignore me and keep walking on or they'll just stare at the weird pointing gal because they didn't hear me or understand me and also I'm pretty scary.
Anyway, I'll be there Friday in I-don't-yet-know-probably-my-Garrus-shirt-because-he-is-my-spacekitty-dinosaur-boyfriend-even-though-it-would-be-a-bit-on-the-nose-for-a-nerd-convention-doncha-think? and all day Saturday in my 8-bit tuxedo shirt (because I'm classy like that), so if anyone happens to go, say "hi!" if you see me.
goldenthorn wrote:... also I'm pretty scary.
It's that extra 11/16 of an inch, isn't it?
Edit to correct what was obviously a heinous typo.
Mavyn wrote:It's that extra 3/16 of an inch, isn't it?
Umm, excuse you, it's 11/16ths of an inch and I'll thank you to remember it, madame! Harrumph.
goldenthorn wrote:Umm, excuse you, it's 11/16ths of an inch and I'll thank you to remember it, madame! Harrumph.
A friend of mine used to say he was 6 foot 17 inches.
(and, to be fair, I was accurate...most people don't question demarking a half inch. It's the added 3/16th between a half and 11/16ths that stands above the rest)
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(and, to be fair, I was accurate...most people don't question demarking a half inch. It's the added 3/16th between a half and 11/16ths that stands above the rest)
Common vernacular habitries explained? Accuracy acknowledged? Friendliness and good humour displayed? "Harrumph," I said, and "harrumph" I continue to say! GOOD DAY, MADAME.
goldenthorn wrote:Common vernacular habitries explained? Accuracy acknowledged? Friendliness and good humour displayed? "Harrumph," I said, and "harrumph" I continue to say! GOOD DAY, MADAME.
My first Woot sighting! I saw "He'll Probably be Okay" at Ikea today, on a woman who was shopping with a friend so I didn't say anything. I was wearing "Read", but I don't know if she noticed.
I saw quite a few woot shirts at the con today, like Hoot or Die!, Acquired Taste, The Binge, It Came Out of Nowhere, Pirate Exercise, Poison, 8-Bit Tux (not on me--mine's tomorrow), Dr. Adorable Love Potion, @-@, aaaaaand... I don't remember the others. Brain tired. More seeing doing done and posted tomorrow? More seeing doing done and posted tomorrow, indeed.
Sigh, after the first few people at whom I pointed and smiled and looked all friendly and exclaimed "hey! Shirt.woot shirt! Cool!" completely and utterly ignored me like I was invisible or dead and a ghost and I just don't know it yet directed by M.Night Shyamalan... well, I just gave up saying anything after that.
I've had two sightings. One was at Disneyland CA of the Cheese Turtles fighting the Shredder shortly after Christmas 2010.
The second happened today as I was parking my bike at work. Someone came up to the bike racks to get their own bike and was wearing ICooN. I merely commented that it was a shame it finally got reckoned and made my way in. Not sure if the guy worked here or was just a patient. (I work in a hospital so it's entirely possible.)
I've seen two wild shirt.woot shirts in nyc after never seeing them besides at conventions or my college campus!
One was Epic Fail, but that was downtown so I wasn't surprised. I didn't say anything since he was half a block away and with a friend.
The other was as I was parking my car, on the sidewalk someone walking by was wearing Red Revenge. I hopped out and excitedly pointed it out, hopefully not looking too much like an over excited creeper. I couldn't help myself, it was surprising to see such a shirt in the bronx, where there aren't many internet savvy/graphic tee wearing folk.
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endangeredomega wrote:Spotted Pie-rate chart on today's sun toasts flesh up Parents blog entry:
I think "Brittany" just wants an excuse to eat more cake.
j5 wrote:I think "Brittany" just wants an excuse to eat more cake.
And thanks to the new blanks, she could eat all the cake she likes and still stay the same size. Nifty, that!
I finally had my first in-the-wild shirt.woot sighting today. (I figure seeing them on my own brother who introduced me to woot or people I've given shirts to don't count.) I stopped at Walmart and saw an older gentleman wearing 1971 - Floppy Diskette. I told him I had worn the same shirt yesterday, and he said, "Oh, you must visit woot."
I wasn't wearing a shirt.woot shirt because I had just attended a "Life Celebration" (aka funeral).
I saw a green shirt with the Woot! logo on it a few days ago...if that counts.
I saw the shirt Leonardo today in class. I think the guy wears woot shirts on a regular basis, but I can't always see his shirt. I'm always trying to get a look at the front of his shirt at the end of class which seems a little weird.
jagendorf wrote:I'm always trying to get a look at the front of his shirt at the end of class which seems a little weird.
This might be much weirder if your classmate were female!
I had an unusual woot encounter several weeks ago: it was the week that "Free Hugs" was debuted and disappeared within the span of a week. The day after it was removed, I was getting off an elevator and a woman who was wearing it was getting on. I did a double-take, because it was so new - she must have had it overnighted - and shouted at her, "Hey, did you notice that it got pulled down?" while gesturing at my chest. She had this confused look on her face and then it cleared, her eyes got big, and she said, "REALLY?!? Why?" And I said, "Copyright, maybe printed at another site first, not sure!" She says, "Woah!" And then the elevator doors closed.
I was impressed at the amount of information we managed to communicate in about 20 seconds!
Shirt sighting on Community last night. Abed was wearing "Eats Shoots and Leaves" during his first scene of the show.
SirGecko wrote:Shirt sighting on Community last night. Abed was wearing "Eats Shoots and Leaves" during his first scene of the show.
that wasn't my shirt. that was a shirt which appears to be someone has spilled ink on it.
Spotted a scant handful of Woot shirts at this weekend's MoCCA-Fest Art Festival here in NYC. Currently too drained + exhausted to look up names/titles.
Passed by someone wearing Ninja Blade today at Hunter College in nyc. I was surprised since the shirt is relatively new!
I saw "Hey! Listen!" at the Shop 'N Save in Crestwood, MO last night.
Me: "Love the shirt!"
Him: ::grumble grumble grumble::
After years of no sightings except for spotting "The Binge" in an enormous crowd at a folk festival a year and a half ago, I have not one but TWO sightings within twelve hours of each other. (cue gasps of amazement)
First, I spotted "Watch the Doctor" on one of the actresses in the musical I'm backstage manager for. She hasn't recognized any of my shirts, though I wear woot! shirts to every rehearsal (random FYI: I was wearing "Curiosity" when I noticed her shirt), so I don't think she keeps up to date constantly. We talked about them for a minute or so, and she apparently has a couple more, including a "Bandolier of Carrots" she likes to wear while feeding her guinea pigs (best comment I heard all night).
Second sighting happened this morning when I was trolling YouTube for something to distract me from the loud people in the office next door. Cory Williams (of "Mean Kitty" fame) has a video up on his channel where he's wearing "The Cheese is a Liederkranz." No word on whether he's a shirt.woot! afficionado, but that one was hanging out right on the thumbnail image for the video. (Looking at the comments, it appears someone has, within the last day, actually commented on the fact that he's got a woot! shirt on -- it's not me, but it IS cool that other people are out there noticing these things too.)
Saw a gentleman wearing The Cake Is A Liar while visiting the National Zoo in DC this Spring. He seemed as plesantly surprised by my recognizing it as I was of seeing a woot! shirt in the wild.
Had my first sighting last night while waiting in line for the Avengers. Saw someone wearing doomcat's Unstealthiest Ninja. I was wearing Farewell to Arms.
Exciting stuff!
Saw a gentleman wearing "Four Seasons in One Day" at Times Sq AMC yesterday. Didn't have a Woot of my own on, as I was part of a group decked out in Avengers cosplay gear. :"/
Saw a guy wearing cell division in math and saw brains walking back from it. good day!
midgerock wrote:that wasn't my shirt. that was a shirt which appears to be someone has spilled ink on it.
Oops, I guess I really just wanted it to be that shirt cause I love it so much. My bad.
The exceptionally helpful young lady who rang up my purchases at Forbidden Planet here in NYC last Thursday was sporting "Knightly Knerd".
Found this picture of someone wearing The Rat Is Our Patron while surfing this DIY crafting blog, the way it's just casually in the shot made me happy. Shirt.woot is spreading :D
I saw a woman in "1971-Floppy Diskette" leaving the post office yesterday. The design really looks great on the shirt, too.
Funny, so far I've only seen other women in woot shirts-and only when I'm somehow also connected to a woot shirt myself. I wasn't wearing one, but I was at the post office to mail a couple of woot shirts to a friend so was carrying two.
Spotted what appeared to be cmdixon2's "Collision" on Thurs afternoon, quarter-to-five-ish, near Broadway and 8th. Saw it only in passing and didn't get a close look, so it could have simply been a different design with a similar colour-scheme.
Second television sighting of "Death Served Before Noon", this time on one of the chefs on Bravo's "Around the World in 80 Plates".
Just saw Elephicanswim at the bar, which is amazing cause it's rare and I also own it.
Spotted Octospelled on a bearded gentleman at Trader Joe's in Chelsea, around half-past nine on Sunday morning.
Saw Relative Dimensions on a dude at the grocery store this past morning. I was wearing Not Paying Attention. He and his girlfriend noticed my shirt as I approached and smile-nodded at me while I, in my soaked post-workout stupor, stared blankly at these rando's smiling at me at 9.30am on a Sunday. Then I realized what shirt the guy had on and what shirt I had on, so I grinned back quite wildly and croaked "yay, shirt.woot!" Thus we passed in the night: two greatships and a listing, leaking fishing trawler.
I geeked out when I saw one of my favorite shirts, A Novel Idea in the last episode of Wil Wheaton's Table Top.
macmankev wrote:I geeked out when I saw one of my favorite shirts, A Novel Idea in the last episode of Wil Wheaton's Table Top.
Thats awesome! Bonus my wife and I love Eureka too. Glad you enjoy the shirt as well, I loved making it
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New Hampshire resident and former Londonderry High School student Josh Logan aced the blind auditions during Monday night's airing of NBC's "The Voice." Logan will compete in the show's upcoming battle rounds in front of millions of television viewers later this fall. (COURTESY Jason D Sliviak /JDS Photography)
Logan, 33, has been performing around the Granite State for more than 20 years.
"I was singing jingles from the Indiana Jones movies around the house when I was just a little kid," the former Londonderry High School student said during a phone interview on Thursday.
"From the moment I first stepped on a stage, I was bitten by the bug," he said.
The path to stardom was a rocky one. Logan became a father at age 17 and withdrew from school, opting instead to earn his GED and work for a Londonderry construction firm.
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Use water with the sand paper or use a sanding sponge. helps get a smooth surface. And if you wet sand with 1500 or 2000 grit, it will be smooth as glass
Sweet!!! sounds great!!!
Thanks for the compliments everyone.
Wel, I've gone as far as I can go with this kit.
Here are the pieces that were finished sanding and primed late this morning:
Here is the whole set wetsanded:
They are as smooth as a baby's bottom now. Aside from painting them, they are done. I'm waiting to hear from my buddy to see if these are going to be shipped off for vacforming to build an armor of Neo Crusader's for anyone that wants an affordable, well built, prefabbed kit!
Yup, that's what wet sanding is. I didn't use paper that fine. I used 500 grit. Considering when I sand to paint I usuallu use 150 grit, that's pretty smooth for me.
They are looking mighty fine there vod. Great job......now lets see some of those custom neo mandos LOL!
Nice one matey!
You got the usual dead zone of completion? :)
Or has the satisfaction sunk in early?
Dea zone. Satisfaction won't sink in til I have the styrene set in hand, painted and fully assembled!
hehehe!!! :P
Alright, so I have gotten a few requests on other forums to post up some pix of the armor on before I sent it off to be vacformed. So, I through on a work uniform (not the undersuit that will be used) and my old Jaing Skirata Rohlan Dyre style helmet (not the helmet that will be used with the Neo) and taped the armor in place. Here's the results, let me know what you think (again, everythings just thrown on, it's not balanced, straight properly seated etc. so be nice!):
So now the set is boxed up, wrapped in bubble wrap and surrounded by styrofoam peanuts and is ready to shipp. I will likely get it off on Friday.
I'll continue updates with soft goods, weapons and the helmet as they come in. But, there won't be any armor updated for a bit.
One thing i would say is that the chest armor looks like it sticks out a bit much at the top?!
This may be because of it not being seated properly as you said so forgive me, that would be my only observation!
That said, I think it looks awesome!
Great job.
Looking good so far! What are you going to do for a cod piece? Is it going to be fabric to increase your flexibility? I can't wait to see it vac-formeD! Keep it up
Sounds great!!!
Alrighty, the armor is going out in the mail today on it's way to get vacformed. In the meantime, it doesn't leave me alot to do but sit and wait. I'm waiting on my helmet, waiting on the armor, waiting on the undersuit... etc etc.
So, I do have a couple things I can work on in the meantime. Here is the artwork I'm using as my primary inspiration.
If you notice in the artwork and many of the Neo's in the KOTOR comics, they seem to have some type of leg strapping system and chest armor carrier. If not carrier's, they have straps or some odd ribbing on the flightsuit. To help recreate that look, I'm utilizing a MOLLE carrier vest and two drop leg MOLLE platforms to mount the torso armor and the thigh armor too...
Finally, I acquired a Meg Bloks Creature Seeker's scuba tank on ebay. Not the nice base the space jetpack one it but, I'm going o try and mod this into a jetpack.
i like the vest
I like the scuba tank!!! :)
Love the vest. Wish I could find a cheap vest somewhere for my armor. The one at Wal*Mart that I want is an XL which I am no where near that size.
Hey dude quick question... where'd u get your molle gear? I need something like that for my Mando, and for work...lol
probably ebay or some where else google it i found on bye googling molee vest
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|Thank you everyone for the ideas and especially the support. It is good to have a few more options to check out. I think the worst thing about this is not having anyone to talk to. It is good to know others have been in this situation and come out the other side.
i just deferred my student loans because i've been unemployed for almost a month. you should have the option to choose unemployment deferment, in which case you may not need to provide documents. in my case, i did not. maybe go on the lender's website and look through things there. for mine, they had a whole chart explaining poverty lines, different types of deferments, etc. best of luck, i know it's stressful.
LoveEcho gave good advice too...when my life turned upsidedown, i literally had to take every day minute by minute. then hour by hour...please take care of yourselves the best you can.
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Not sure if this is an option for you. I just helped an employee with this process a few days ago.
If you have a 401k....perhaps you qualify for a "hardship withdrawl" based on your current situation? The IRS has strict guidelines to this.
This would only be a short term fix...just keeping your head above water and holding onto your house longer.
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|My husband has had 2 failed businesses and presently a significant portion of his income goes to back business bills. He is an owner/operator now but when the business failed he became a company driver. Its a tough thing. We had to make the decision to stop throwing good moneyt after bad which meant he took a job that didnt allow him any time off but then after two years almost its alot better.WE let 4 drivers go and an office person which is what hurt him the most. Can you contact your mortgage folks somertimes they can give options.My prayers are w/ you guys.
Bridget, I can totally commiserate-- my husband washed away an extremely large chunk of our savings (money that he had come into our marriage with so I didn't feel right telling him 'no') to try and start his own trucking business, which also failed. We were in the exact same situation... we have been trying to sell our home but have been unable to. He ended up taking a job driving for FedEx (a serious blow to his ego... he owned a very successful landscaping company in CT and sold it to move for my job) for $13/hr. I took a second job working as a pharmacy tech at CVS, as well as taking on as much freelance software writing work that I could.
The best advice I can give is focus on every day, every hour, at a time. You will make it through this hour. And the next hour. There are resources, exhaust your options. Call the student loan companies if you have to, they WILL negotiate-- even the feds. Everyone is having a hard time right now (the student loan crisis is the new housing crisis), so they will take pretty much any amount you can offer. I would do this before deferring- the interest will kill you and you will never, ever catch up on principal. Sell anything expendable (extra vehicles, etc) to tide you over. Get a second, third job if you have to. I promise you will get through this (your post struck so close to home with me, I'm all emotional now ). It is the holiday season; focus on what you can control and spending time with family. Breathe. Take it day by day-- thinking about what you'll do next week, month, or year is overwhelming and you will shut down. There are options out there, including unemployment extension, debt consolidation, etc. There are also housing payment assistance programs that are short-term. It will look up.
Also, on a more personal note-- I know how hard it can be to deal with the anger or resentment you may feel towards your husband. When things were pretty bad for us, it was SO hard to squash the "WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?!" feeling. One member here gave me invaluable advice-- instead, be proud of him that he had the guts to at least try. This economy is not friendly to small business owners, and it is only going to get worse in the foreseeable future, unfortunately. But I'm sure he learned a lot, and if he learns from his mistakes he can dream about trying again in the future.
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I don't think self-employed get unemployment? I don't know about that exactly. (ETA - you answered that)
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But I would start with the first place and see what they can do to help. I am really sorry that this is happening. I hope for the best for you.
Also - weird thought - the talk is that there are tons of jobs in North Dakota is it? Not maybe the best of options but something I've heard about.
Not sure if this is an option for you. I just helped an employee with this process a few days ago.
If you have a 401k....perhaps you qualify for a "hardship withdrawl" based on your current situation? The IRS has strict guidelines to this.
This would only be a short term fix...just keeping your head above water and holding onto your house longer.
Take a deep breath, you have to hang in there. I've been thru the ringer, believe me. We went into business in 2007 and out of business in 2009, what I thought was the worst time of my life. We made it thru that and are now on to our next ordeal.
I know it sounds clich'e but things have a way of working themselves out and it is truely darkest before dawn.
I keep telling my husband we will work this new thing out, I'm not going to side track your thread with my new problems, when I'm up to it I will probably need to post.
THERE ARE SOLUTIONS FOR YOU, you just need to figure it out.
|It is construction. It was hoped that enough could be made to make up for the turn in season, but hasn't happened. He may be able to get an "unemployment deferral" on the student loan I just learned. Unemployment nope, not when you have been self employed. We will see if you have to be receiving unemployment benefits to get this type of deferral.
Bridget....very sorry to hear you and your family are going through this right now.
Is there any way you could have a consultant take a look at your husbands business plan, his direction, the marketing, overhead costs etc and make suggestions that could put the business on the right path to success. If there were indications that this could be a successful business after seeking the advice of a consultant, perhaps you could seek out an investor who would be willing to invest in your business to help make it a success.
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So, I went down to the hippy coffee shop tonight . . . this dude we call Elf had his babylonic computer thing with him. I said, I want you all to check out this chicks wild art. Craig, Lilly, Aaron, Ky, and Kara were all in to it man. They thought your art was really far out. Craig said, "How does some chick from Podunk Florida come up with this stuff? I said, "Hell if I know! It must be the manitees man . . . they must speak to her and shit." They said, "Man Fishspit! You take too much speed!" I said, "It's better than that goddamned devil weed!" Ky said, "Man! This chick smoked the weed! Check out how trippy this shit is." I said, "Oh." I"ll have to ask her. They all smoke so much dope! Do you? But when it's all said and done, they dug on your art man. Really! They thought you were cool as hell.
Well, I wanted you to know that your people (the hippies, wood carvers, beatniks and commune livers) up here think you are the shit. I got jealous! I said, "You pack of long hairs never compliment my wiseblood's like this!" I put on my crucified Jesus act. They just groaned. Well girl . . . I guess you got fans in Washington. The pack of rat bastards.
I send my regards, Fishspit out.
Thanks! I'm moving on to e-mail. If you ever want to e-mail don't hesitate to drop me a line. My e-mail is email@example.com
And I say to you: Cool art!
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Yup sister . . . I'm an old timer. Your art work makes me think of the 60's. It's really groovy . . . . and I'm not saying that word to be silly. I love the word "groovy." I love hippies . . . I hang out in the coolest hippy coffee shop in the world! It's in Redmond Washington. It's all hippies and then me! If any of the art you send me is psychedelic I will copy it (with your approval) and have them hang it up on the wall. They dig that kind of thing. They smoke dope and I take speed. That's why I've been up all night and am on this damned computer at 7 a.m. Seattle time.
Sending love to the manitees!
Fishspit out.
p.s. I am on old punk!!! my first show was in Tulsa Oklahoma (!) in 1983!
the rock against Reagan tour with M.D.C., the Dicks, D.R.I, and the Crucifucks!
It changed my life! woo hooo! Smash it up!
Girl . . . you send me anything you want. I'll hang it on my wall with pride.
Keep writing girl . . . it'll all come together. It's hard, I know, because we live in a Babylon of a world that keeps us working so much we don't stop to smell the manitees.
thanks, Fishspit.
It's on its way Madrea!
By the way . . . your pictures are awesome! You do some of what I think is psychedelia. The cool thing is you often do it without colors . . . just black and white.
Is that a manitee!
God bless all the manitees in the world and god bless you.
Fishspit out.
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posted at 12:12 pm on June 29, 2012 by Howard Portnoy
Following oral arguments on his health care law back in April, a dejected and petulant President Obama groused in a Rose Garden speech that conservative commentators are forever bemoaning judicial activism. He noted that "this," referring to the Supreme Court's decision to probe the constitutionality of his signature legislative achievement, was "a good example."
He was right, as it turns out, but for the wrong reasons. Evaluating constitutionality of laws—even ones bearing (perish the thought!) Obama's John Hancock—is well within the high court's purview. In fact, that's the key function of the judiciary (aka "Constitutional court") as a branch of government. Anything beyond that is judicial activism.
Example: interpreting the individual mandate in the Affordable Care Act so broadly that it in essence becomes a different law from the one Congress voted on. That is what Chief Justice John Roberts did on Thursday.
Justices Kennedy, Thomas, Alito, and Scalia argued as much in the dissenting opinion, writing, "to say that the Individual Mandate merely imposes a tax is not to interpret the statute but to rewrite it. Judicial tax-writing is particularly troubling."
In support of their claim, the minority noted that Congress's intent was reflected not only in the spirit of the health care law but in the letter:
[T]he mandate and penalty are located in Title I of the Act, its operative core, rather than where a tax would be found—in Title IX, containing the Act's 'Revenue Provisions.' In sum, 'the terms of [the] act rende[r] it unavoidable,' Parsons v. Bedford, 3 Pet. 433, 448 (1830), that Congress imposed a regulatory penalty, not a tax.
The proof of the pudding of course is contained in the words of the president who repeated on numerous occasions that the individual mandate was not a tax. If it were, he would be guilty of reneging on his promise that on his watch "no family making less than $250,000 a year" would their "taxes increase one single dime."
The most troubling aspect of Roberts' ruling is that it catapults the law and nation into uncharted territory. We are now in the land of what-if. What if the Congress had tried to push through a health care reform law that would be funded by levying a tax? Would former Nebraska Sen. Ben Nelson, who was the make-or-break vote, have voted for the law's passage? How about other members of the Senate who supported the law as written?
As noted earlier, the Supreme Court is well within its powers to judge the constitutionality of a law. But once its justices rewrite the law, all bets are off.
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A real life fairytale, about finding your Prince Charming! Comprising of a single A4 sheet of plain paper. All hand drawn.
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Today I'm proud to break the next Internet star right here on the Woot blog, and even prouder that he's from my old neighborhood in St. Louis.
I knew this guy as the security guard at our local supermarket - as you'll soon see, he's got the kind of look you notice. All the while, a whole different group of St. Louisans knew him as a karaoke star. This video features almost no singing, but once you get a load of him in action, you'll understand his burgeoning fame. Ladies and gentleman, give it up for John G.
"Beyond the limits of imaginability" indeed! John G's towering presence may remind you of Lurch, but there's no lurching in his slick MJ moves. If I were a Hollywood producer, I'd figure out a way - any way - to get this guy dancing in my next picture. Welcome to the big time, John G! Don't forget the little people at the Loughborough Schnuck's!
(Thanks for the link, Andy S.!)
Definitely an "upper level plateau of greatness". I will strive to make it there someday from my "lower level plateau of mediocrity".
Okay, I'll bite, how tall is he? It never says... I wonder if that higher plateau will include dental care? Enjoyed the vid, thanks guys!
He's got far better dance moves than I'll ever have (or want for that matter).
He comes across as a pretty smart, and normal guy. To bad life dealt him the height and looks it did, as they don't do him justice. Well, the looks at least. At first glance, I was expecting him to be not too bright. I didn't think Susan Boyle could sing, either.
Don't judge a book by it's cover.
That must have been some tough neighborhood in St. Louis:
"I knew this guy as the security guard at our local supermarket"
Here's hoping it was more of a nodding acquaintance than personal interaction of a professional nature.....
Well, he sure can move. Probably does not have enough money for a partial plate which he really needs. Gotta give him credit. He looks to be about 6'9" - maybe was a basketball player and that's the dental problem.
I'm getting scared to look anything "interesting" on the woot! blog. It's like choosing to watch a car wreck... Put a PayPal link up front so I can choose not to watch such stuff... Makes me feel like I need to take a shower... unclean...tainted...like Billie Jean... ew
What, no moonwalk? I saw him start to do something similar, but never did it. I learned it when I was 14, I'm 40 now. if he doesn't know it, I could teach him, it's easy. And the length of his legs would make it awesome.
As an aside, though, I get so frustrated at camera operators who focus on the FEET when someone is doing the moonwalk (sitcomes, movies, not just home videos). The illusion is in the LEGS passing each other at the knees, not the FEET. The feet are what caused the legs/knees to move past each other in the same way they would if someone was walking forward, while the whole body is moving backward. Our minds expect to see the body moving forward since the legs/knees are moving that way. Thus, the illusion.
Does anyone know what other family link Jason has to this venue?
ok...so being a huge MJ fan..this by no way does justice for him except for the fact he also is an MJ fan!Way to stiff..Mj was smooth and could carry those moves as though it was a natural movement for himself..this guy is as though he is scared to twist turn jump..and even Moonwalk!!sorry dude all i can say is thanks for loving Mj but need to watch somemore videos to teach you the real moves!
deniset wrote:Does anyone know what other family link Jason has to this venue?
Hi Mom! Yes, my parents used to run karaoke in that very room, Talayna's Jukebox on Hampton Avenue in St. Louis. The mirrors and the neon look even crazier in person.
He sounds like Nicholas Cage. Fairly smooth dancer for being so tall. Not so sure about the singing voice....really didn't hear that much of it.
Wow! I used to live in Dogtown near this place. While the neighborhood is fine (historic), this establishment looked abandoned to me and has absolutely no appeal from the outside. In fact they advertise having the "Worlds Greatest Pizza," which they proudly wrote in sharpie on the side of the building.
as soon as i saw "security guard at our local supermarket" and "looks like lurch" in the email i knew exactly who you were talking about. never would have guessed that that fella had those moves.
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British troops have occupied the Basra area since early stages of thee Iraq war. They now have handed over control of the city to local Iraqi forces without receiving much thanks from those who now are responsible for controlling the city. The new police commander, General Jalil Khalaf bitterly complained the British occupation and departure left him with a situation close to mayhem. "They left me militia, they left me gangsters, and they left me all the troubles in the world." The British government insists the turnover was timely and appropriate, but that is apparently not the view of Iraqi leaders. British General Graham Binns, claimed the situation was OK, and "I came to rid Basra of its enemies and I now formally hand Basra back to its friends."
His "friend," Khalaf, has a different version of the situation. During the past three months, 45 women have been killed for being "immoral" due to lacking the correct hair covering. Shia militia are better armed than the police force. His main problem is now recovering control of the town from the militia which was armed by the British. Khalaf believes the British meant well, but their actions only increased violence by allowing extremist groups to gain access to arms and not sufficiently providing sufficient arms and equipment to the police. He showed reporters a list of 48 women who were killed because they had been in an adulterous relationship. Even as he spoke, violence continued in what was supposedly peaceful Basra.


text: I agree. I think that it was good for us too try the small ball, in fact it maybe even had been asked of him by Joe D. It let us know what our line up can accomplish small and big. Puts into a better position than the rest of the league when it comes to experiance having to match up against bigger guys. We also have a winning record well into the season so I don't think he is doing to much wrong. Biggest grief on my part is there are certain times thoughout the games were I feel someone needs to go to the bench and someone needs to comeoff the bench that we disagree upon apparently. I liked his call to foul Nene before they could get it to CB or J.R. Smith for a possible 3 point attempt.