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GREEN BAY, Wis. (GreenBayPhoenix.com) - After averaging 18.5 points and 6.5 assists per game in a pair of home wins over Marquette and South Dakota, Green Bay sophomore Keifer Sykes (Chicago, Ill.) was named the Horizon League Player of the Week on Monday, the league office announced. The award marks the second time this season and third time in his career Sykes has won the weekly honor.
The award also comes after Sykes was named last week to the Bob Cousy Watch List as one of the nation's top point guards. The 5-foot-11 Chicagoan leads the Phoenix and is second in the Horizon League in scoring at 16.8 points per game while adding 3.7 assists per contest. He is shooting 45.3 percent from the field, 47.1 percent from long range and 84.3 percent from the free-throw line.
Sykes was also named the High-Major National Player of the Week by College Sports Madness.
On Wednesday, Sykes scored a game-high 20 points and surpassed 500 career points in a 49-47 upset victory over Marquette in the Golden Eagles' first visit to the Resch Center. In that contest, he scored or assisted on 32 of his team's 49 points (65.3%) as the Phoenix snapped a four-game slide in front of nearly 7,000 fans.
Sykes followed up that effort with an efficient 17-point, 8-assist performance on Saturday as Green Bay cruised to a 72-55 win over South Dakota. He was 6-of-8 from the field and knocked down each of his four free throw attempts. Sykes scored or assisted on 50 percent of the Phoenix points against the Coyotes.
The South Dakota game was the end of an impressive 29-game stretch for Sykes at the age of 18. The Preseason All-Horizon League Second-Team selection reached double figures in 26 games and averaged 15.6 points per game (451 points). VIDEO: GreenBayPhoenix.com highlights the top-18 moments of Sykes as an 18-year old
Sykes was previously named Horizon League Player of the Week on Nov. 12, 2012 and Feb. 27, 2012.
The Phoenix concludes its four-game homestand on Sykes' 19th birthday, hosting Illinois-Springfield on Sunday, Dec. 30 at 6 p.m.
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I'm selling of my r.o.t.j stuff and going e.s.b.
first up are my gauntlets they were origionaly jango fett .
they are fiberglass ( don't know who made them) ,
they have aluminum darts , rocket and blades.(the rocket is aluminum and brass)
they are also set up with straps in each to engage the blades..I also have the arrow dart for the right one (not pictured).
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|Going back tomorrow for a second inspection. We'll see what happens...
I called him up to ask more about the mast. It was indeed cut at the bottom. He said there was still more than enough head room. He offered to hoist the boat up to inspect the retractable keel as well.
The stays have been modified already, so they would have to be replaced...
NOt positive, but IIRC USSpars in Florida may have been the supplier of your mast. A lookup on the internet at usspars.com may be worth it, and if they did supply the mast, get a cost to replace it. OR, talk to a local rigger, they may be able to weld an additional 6" back onto the base. Not "MY" personaly first choice of a fix, ie the welding, but a smaller boat like this may work just fine! This of course is assuming the shrouds and stays are still long enough to handle the extra 6" of mast height.
If the boom is lower that definitely won't work!
Thanks guys! This is the kind of info I was looking for... There is no way to verify the retractable keel right now. I could ask him to put it up on stands though.
I did check the cabin latches, they were lined up nicely. I have owned a pop top camper and have seen the effects of a messed up pop top. I'm positive that the 40 year old seal is probably long gone, which would attribute that damge. The one thing that I did notice was there was no sign of a high water mark inside the cabin. The bilge was fairly clean. I'm thinking this boat sat more on land than it did in water.
The early Oday 23's with the pop tops were notorius for being leaky. Given the state of the paint around the edges of the interior, I'd say this boat has/had that problem. It was a problem inherent in the design, so fixing it won't be easy. Also, check the centerboard. It is controlled by that crank on the table stand in the cabin. The early 23's had iron keels, which of course rusted like crazy. The centerboards of these boats often froze inside the rusting keels. It took a lot of maintenance to keep the mechanisms in working order. Later 23's did away with the pop tops completely and went to lead keels.
Broken mast? Yikes. I would stay away from that. Unless you are a skilled metal machinist, I don't think masts are repairable. Taking six inches off won't affect the boat too much. The biggest impact I can see is that unless the main was resewn, the shorter mast might mean that the boom swing will be below head height to someone seated in the cockpit. Not a good thing.
The short answer here is that there are a lot of boats in this price range and of this size, probably in better shape and better designs than this one.
|I love the boat. I would suggest that you have a survey done on the boat to put your mind at ease. It is well worth the investment even though your offer price might be the same as a survey.
I really appreciate all your replies! Sandusky, that's what I was thinking as well, although I wasn't able to inspect the entire mast. Where the mast penetrates the cabin, it has been worked on there as well!
I will be going back for a second inspection when there is more daylight. I'm hopeful there isn't too much else that I didn't see. I do want to make sure the deck isn't spongy!
If this boat works out, it would be fantastic for us in the Keys!
I Heart O'Days
Not sure how much info you can get on that boat itself, but the site does have a LOT of info on Oday boats.
The pictures and description tell the story. Nobody shortens a mast. Obviously the boat has been dismasted most likely at the mast step. Never a good sign. I'd be very leery of that. Replacing a bulkhead is doable but not easy. At 6'4" laying in a locker and grinding fiberglass is a pain. The ports have been modified which indicates that leaks have been a problem. Most likely the cabin top on this boat is pretty flexible on this boat and the owner had trouble keeping the interior dry. Is there canvas that goes with pop top. How are the sails?If you have a lot of time and and are looking for a full time hobby rehabbing a boat this might be the boat for you. Probably worth $500 if the outboard works.
As far as Lake Erie goes, properly fixed this boat is o'k just don't expect to make any long trips. I wouldn't go out it if the forecast is for anything over 2 foot chop. As an alternative, have you looked at a Tanzer 22. Pretty good boats with a quality build. Here is one in Ohio that might fit the bill
1973 Tanzer T-22 sailboat for sale in Ohio
Classified Ads (Tanzer 22 Class Association)
The Practical Sailor's Evaluation of Three 22 Footers (Tanzer 22 Class Association)
Well, we went and looked at it. It's not to bad. It has had some repair work done to the transom that you can only see from below in the port cockpit locker. On the starboard side below in the huge cockpit storage area the plywood divider/bulkhead is rotted in the bilge area. Not sure if that area is supposed to be completely sealed off or if there is supposed to be a weap hole to self bilge. It obviously stiffens the boat. It's all repairable, he also told me that damage was done to the mast at one time and that they shortened it 6"? How much is that going to affect the boat?
He's asking $1200 for it, i'm thinking far less than that.
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I also trial in AKC
i have a special routine that i do for every dog show
it might sound mean odd or whatever you want to call it but it works for my dogs.
so the night before a trial i cut the amount of food to 3/4
So for me my dog eats 2 cups in the am and 2 cups in the pm
i feed him a full 2 in the am and only 1 in the pm
WHY, when you or your dog wakes up he is 9 out of 10 times hungry
well with less food before he goes to sleep he is ready to bite your hand for food.
next my dogs dont be in crates or kennels at night
so again the night before he sleeps in there dog crates.
when i wake up i make sure they pop and pee AT my home
Not on trial ground
not on the way
that gives out the issue of him going to the bathroom,
The dog will not eat until trial ground.
so now i got a choice i got a dog who i increases his pack drive, and his food drive.
On top of that my dogs energy is sky high and ready to go
i walk around the trial a little so he settles into his area.
before i go in the ring i pull my dog out about 1.5 dogs ahead of me
i pull the ball out and make him down
i cap is his drive
and we wait when it close to my turn i ask my dog a simple question
and i say it very low
"Are you ready"
now this is to do a couple of things
1.) he knows its time to work(training or in a trial)
2.) it puts him and drive
3.) also it helps with the focus
now when i say those words
a couple things happen and i look for a couple of things
my dogs starts to bark, wine, and or starts to offer behaviors
about 10 ft before i hit the ring
i tell my dog to heel
my dog is more then likely heeling very nice
this sometimes impress the judge.
I hope this helps :-)
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Sounds too late, but brings up a good point. If that dog was put back in the crate right as she was almost in peak drive, she'd be coming out next week the same way.
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At one time I was sort of trying to do SchH with a softer GSD. She did not have a ton of drive, so I used to crate her before training. At least an hour, preferably two. I'd let her sit in the car and watch other teams training before taking her out. This really did seem to build her drive. It would carry her through the training session most days.
|At one time I was sort of trying to do SchH with a softer GSD. She did not have a ton of drive, so I used to crate her before training. At least an hour, preferably two. I'd let her sit in the car and watch other teams training before taking her out. This really did seem to build her drive. It would carry her through the training session most days.
|Can you get to a Bridget Carlsen seminar? There is no quick answer for this. Your dog needs to be conditioned to come in to drive upon entering the ring and your training needs to focus on keeping the drive built in to all the exercises. Keeping the dog keen in competition is ongoing maintenance of drive and desire.
|Practices loading the dog up with drive using just your eyes and breathing (hard to explain) prior to reward in training. This will give you a tool to keep her engaged and in drive without dangling a reward. Ill try and video it for you
You can try praising up your dog or interact with him before hand or like others have said hype him up with a toy.
I go on and on about how I was taught with working dogs about stuff, but it seems to help out alot regardless of breed line. The new dogs here obviously don't have that drive to work like the one trained dog that I run alot. To get them interested in searching, we "play" with them. Acting like we throw the Kong down the hallway or throwing it to someone down the hall and they run into a room or area and pretend to hide it helps alot. You should see how hard they will work to find that thing lol. Also at the end of searching or in your case obstacle course, we throw their Kong into a building or out of their line of sight. That way next time they go back, they will search like mad to find it. It's not the same as what you are having trouble with, but just a couple ideas on how to get the dog interested in what you are trying to complete. Hope this helps.
|Have you looked at Bridget Carlsen's site? She has some good tips about enthusiasm and engagement. You can rent some of her vids at bowwowflix
My dogs adore a good "party" is what I call it. After obedience I will throw a celebratory party about how awesome their obedience was. This involves pets, jumping up in arms, running around playing with each other. Sometimes I will throw small ones for a victory in the middle of a training session. Sometimes I will offer small hints of "keep going" with a neck scratch or a pat on the head before we start to heel.
In the ring you are allowed to share affection with your dog in between exercises within moderation. When you start throwing parties with your dog getting them amped up playing with you and goofing off, they will just build drive when you offer small hints of it.
This ends up building my dogs up throughout routines to keep them motivated to work for me.
A huge thing as well is your mood and attitude. If you run in that ring confident as ever with happy tones and playful up beat cheer to your routine, Your dog will match that tenfold and you guys will dance.
If you walk in the ring with a poor attitude, mild headache, tired, doubtful, your dog is going to reflect that and look dull and lack enthusiasm.
I play tug all the time. As soon as I see my boy getting flat or bored I'll pull out a tug toy to motivate him. You can do this at trials...just not inside the actual ring. I also try not to sit around at trials for too long. One time I did a Rally trial in the morning, and should've been in the obedience ring like 2 hours later (with the same judge) but he was SUPER SUPER slow and it ended up being about 5 hours later. We qualified for our CD leg...but with a super low score and 6 out of the 8 dogs NQ'd.
So if I'm at a trial, I'm constantly playing/training him every 15-30 minutes just to make sure he doesn't get tired and bored.
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My wife is wanting a .380 pistol. She wants a S&W Bodyguard, but from what I have found out so far, it has the long triger travel that she dont like. Does
anyone know of the trigger travel? Or a price range?
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My wife is wanting a .380 pistol. She wants a S&W Bodyguard, but from what I have found out so far, it has the long triger travel that she dont like. Does
anyone know of the trigger travel? Or a price range?
Thanks in advance
The travel is going to be a half inch and it will be light. Unfortunately they are not available in the US. How's about a 9mm?
glock 25 .380 auto pistol are available for law enforcement only. In the USA.
As for the BG 380 My wife loves her. At frist the trigger was not what she liked as well. But has she when't to the range with it. About 3days later,At 7yds she was hitting dead center. Like everything els,Just takes a little bit of practice.
The pistol is great for ccw. Put it in your back pocket ,And never know it's their. We got a second one for me,I use it as a ankle holster. Can't ask for more...
Because of the casual way most women prefer to carry a handgun, the very last pistol I would allow my wife to have is a Glock - Especially if that Glock is usually kept in C-1. (Actually, C-0 for a Glock!) :mrgreen:
First thing I did for my wife after she got her carry permit was to get her a maximum coverage Kramer pocket holster and over-the-shoulder (gun) handbag. Then I didn't allow her to carry her brand new (custom-tuned) Ruger SP-101 until AFTER I spent the better part of four months training her in all aspects of safe gun handling and everyday carry.
Once she learned the basic safety rules and necessary, 'do's and don'ts' of daily gun handling then I began to teach her how to skillfully respond to an unexpected street confrontation. Didn't have to teach her how to shoot, though. That she learned at a very early age from a local neighbor who was a retired military sniper and local Boy Scout firearms trainer.
If this sounds like a bit of, 'overkill' well, I spend a lot of time on firing lines. I get to see it all, too! Hardly a week goes by that I don't have to suddenly step out of line with somebody's errant muzzle, remind someone that their finger shouldn't be inside the trigger guard, or not do something incredibly dangerous like turning their gun's muzzle to the left or right side (down the line!) in order to clear a jam.
I totally agree with above post...JJ
Purse snatchers are everywhere. If your pistol is in a purse, and that purse is snatched, you have just armed a criminal.
Women put their purses down and then walk away from them. In such a case at a neighbor's or friend's home, a curious child might delve into a neglected "loaded" purse, and that may lead to tragedy.
Presentations from within even the best-designed purse are much slower and more difficult to accomplish than from a holster worn on the body.
Depending upon what clothing she's wearing, my wife, Jean, uses an IWB holster or a Smartcarry. Both work extremely well—if the lady practices.
I do, however, often see pistol gun butts protruding from ladies handbags. This just seems to be a method of carry that most women prefer to use; AND my own wife is one of them. Perhaps, like me, you've heard all of the usual complaints: 'That thing on my hip makes me look fat!' 'I can't wear something like that around the office!' 'Do you expect me to cook or do dishes with that thing hanging on me?' (And there's lots of other complaints, too!)
Neither you, nor I are going to get, 'the leopard to change its spots'. It almost took an, 'act of Congress' and one very bloody armed robbery closely followed up by an attempted carjacking to finally get my wife to carry a sidearm. For years prior to this her favorite wisecrack was, 'What do I need to carry a gun for?' 'I've got you!' Well, she's now got me to watch over her gun handling and firearm safety habits too; but, ya know what? She's become a very good gun handler.
You're right! Her handbag might get snatched - That's a viable risk she, and many other armed women, take. At the same time I know of one woman who had her arm broken when she tried to prevent her handbag from being pulled off her shoulder. (Which is, 'Why' I don't like, 'high security women's handbags' with a steel cable inside the shoulder strap.)
Alternatively, I've yet to see my wife leave her handbag out of her sight whenever she's outside the house - That's something she's very good about; and with such a personal security habit in place I don't see any other person (or child) getting into her handbag; but, again, you're correct. When a typical gun toting woman puts down her handbag she's always got to remember to watch it.
You might want to think of this situation like a user-applied gun safety. You have a choice; individual discretion remains a viable option. You do, or you don't practice and accept responsibility for hanging onto your own gun. On the other hand, if your gun safety is passive, like on a Glock, then you haven't got a choice - There is no individual discretion. Instead of being, 'in the bag' the gun is fixed on your hip; and think of the problems that can cause for a typical woman!
Such a woman's wardrobe is going to be heavily restricted. Corsets and girdles are bad enough to have to wear all day long, but a SmartCarry holster, too? No way! Most females aren't going to go along with that. When you stop to think about it, you or I can get away with, and might even prefer, to carry our sidearms about our waist - Even open carry is OK for us; but the same thing isn't true for females.
Me? I don't know of any perfect carry solution for women. I'm just glad that two run-ins with five banditos finally convinced my wife that just having me and my two guns around weren't enough to always keep her safe. After years of resisting the suggestion I've finally been able to train and get her to carry a sidearm. I know that keeping her 357 Magnum inside her shoulder bag isn't a perfect carry solution; and I've made sure that she does too.
Hey, at least, she's carrying 24/7, now, whenever she goes out of the house; and she's extra careful to show her firearms instructor husband the very best of safe gun handling habits. These are some of the reasons, 'Why' I do not believe there is any such thing as 100% firearm safety - Not when it comes to gun handling, and not when it comes to a gun, itself.
ADDED: You know, it just hit me like a thunder clap! My habitually well-dressed, State Police Detective, (former) sister-in-law always carried her huge, snub-nosed, Smith & Wesson, Model 686 duty handgun inside of a Galco shoulder handbag. Granted, I only saw her when she was off-duty; but, I'm positive she wouldn't have done this if it were against State Police regulations.
Six men, debating what's best for women... You guys are silly. :rolleyes:
Well ....... Holly, after 40 years of marriage, I think I understand women pretty good. :yawinkle:
I would hope so.
...And I don't understand 'em. Not at all.
But I have learned to give Jean as many choices as possible.
And then, I respect her choice.
for self defense i would not carry anything less than a 38 caliber. s&w bg 38 and ruger lcr 38 are good ones to try. they both are about the same as bg 380 around 400.00 give or take. i had a bg 380, bought it one day shot it the next and sold it the next day. not a nice gun. if you insist on a 380 the best one i know of is a sig p238 but pricey around 600.00 + but small, light weight, and nice trigger pull. also if the size of a glock 380 is not a problem you may want to consider a glock 27 40 caliber about 500.00


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Debate 3: Horses and Tumult and Barnum – Oh My!
Original post made by Tom Cushing, Danville, on Oct 24, 2012
1 -- The overriding theme of this debate was agreement, as Mr. Romney repeatedly stated that he believes Mr. Obama's approaches were correct, only he'd had done more of it, sooner. The strategy behind this Me, Too approach is pretty clear – to mollify those who have been afraid that he's a reckless amateur, and to defuse the international realm as a source of distinction between the candidates – thus refocusing attention on the domestic issues that better suit him. It's a risky proposition, as it relies on voters' continuing tolerance of his Say Anything candidacy, and it is so soon after his contradictory, bellicose pronouncements on Iran, and his tactless summer vacation tour. Was PT Barnum right? We'll see next month.
2 -- Mr. Obama clearly 'won' this debate: on his record, on his experience and on the popular zinger count. His contrast of his first visit to Israel with Mr. Romney's was inspired, and meaningful. But he spent way too much time parrying Romney's 'whoppers,' and not enough time articulating his evident foreign policy vision. He has built and required international consensus and responsibility in actions against wrong-doers, and walked the American talk: reflecting our bedrock political values in his actions -- and he should have said so.
Too often in the past, I believe, the US has allowed immediate, economic expedients to dictate policy at the expense of democracy; in this hemisphere and Iran, for example, we've propped-up dictators and undermined the democratic process when the results did not please us. The US has also too-often acted unilaterally, as in Iraq (a coalition?? Please don't bother). That's both arrogant and expensive, in budgetary and human terms. The Obama Doctrine is sound and nuanced – indeed, it is precisely the kind of consistent, future-directed strategy Mr. Romney called for at the start of the session. The Prez missed an opportunity to make that knockout argument in crystal clear terms.
3 -- The "1916 Navy" claim, which got the derisive, if somewhat overplayed smackdown it deserved, is disturbing on a deeper level. It was yet another cynical, fear-mongering gambit from the guys who claim they are running against fear-mongering. It is fear-mongering, since it wrongly suggests weakness, and cynical, because size is meaningless when applied to ship count – and they must have known it. It's a claim about nothing. Calling Mr. Barnum, again.
4 -- The media response has again been tepid and superficial. There were strenuous attempts to say something nice about both Participants, without any policy weighting about what's actually important. And the fact checkers concerned themselves with whether Marines are issued bayonets. Sure – and they get swords, too – great for recruiting commercials, and utterly trivial in terms of national security.
5 -- One other danger in Mr. Romney's rope-a-dope approach to this debate – how can it be that he repeatedly agreed with Mr. Obama's actions and plans – and yet claimed that they reflect 'weakness,' 'unraveling' and 'tumult?' It's not only inaccurate – it's internally inconsistent. Will the disconnected Undecideds who may decide this election let him get away with that, too, PT?
6 -- The focus on terror left other, hugely important issues out in the cold: the European debt crisis and global warming being two examples. I understand that the latter is still a hot stove – untouchable, although bound to fry us all in due course. But the EU is far from out-of-the-woods on its finances, and all it got was yet another absurd-on-the-facts reference to Greece. The policy approaches taken by Europe are controversial and fundamentally affect the US economy. Folks, if the EU economy were to tank, so would ours – no amount of confidence-fairy dust would help. If the candidates are serious about their "strength at-home" point, they have to be thinking about how the US can help forestall that calamity. Inquiring minds want to know what they're responses will be – managed bankruptcy? Some manner of Keynesian stimulus?
7 -- Finally, neither China nor Africa got sufficient time – that's important, and inter-connected. There's an excellent book I want to get-to after the election called "Winner Take All," that describes China's effective, long term resource acquisition strategy, especially in commodity-rich, developing Africa. It contrasts the West's "aid" approach with China's better-received "partnership" approach, from the perspective of an African-born economist. It's an important phenomenon, not yet much on our radar.
Again, it's your turn...
a resident of Danville
on Oct 24, 2012 at 11:12 am
Tom, that is a worthy point to raise about China's approach to natural resources and national security. Does it make you wonder if part of our impetus for intervening in Iraq (oil) and Afghanistan (minerals) over the past decade was to try to pre-empt China from developing strategic alliances for natural resources in that region? After all, those nations lie only a little southwest from China's southwestern border. If so, we have not been entirely successful, as one of China's state-owned copper companies has a huge development deal in Afghanistan. It is also not clear which foreign companies have received oil contracts in Iraq. But, given America's economic reliance on strategic resources, we should be concerned about China's partnering moves in Africa and elsewhere and think about whether we are pursuing the best strategy.
a resident of Danville
on Oct 25, 2012 at 10:08 am
Is there anything Obama could do that would make you not vote for him?
For example, if Obama said he believes in slavery, would you still vote for him?
Obama soothes with rhetoric and kills people in secret. How many innocent people will Obama kill before you protest?
As you know, Obama terrorizes innocent Pakistanis on an almost daily basis. His drone war isn't "precise" or "surgical" as he would have Americans believe. He's killed hundreds of children and thousands of innocent civilians.
Obama, secretly orders and oversees the extrajudicial killing of American citizens, including a 16 year old kid, as described last July in Esquire magazine. Web Link Obama's kill list transgresses against the Constitution as egregiously as anything George W. Bush ever did.
Contrary to Obama's own previously stated understanding of what the Constitution and the War Powers Resolution demand, President Obama committed U.S. forces to war in Libya without Congressional approval, despite the lack of anything like an imminent threat to national security.
Last week, The Atlantic carried a very persuasive article written by a former Obama supporter, urging people in non-battle ground states, like California, to vote for a third party candidate, like Gary Johnson. Web Link#
I'd like to hear your thoughts on this approach.
a resident of Alamo
on Oct 25, 2012 at 2:07 pm
SP: let me answer your first Q with all the sober reflection it deserves: before I would decide whether to vote for Mr. Obama if he backed slavery, I would want to know Mr. Romney's position on the subject, how long he'd held it and how many other positions he'd advocated since he entered public life.
As to my review of his Presidency, I'm in the disappointed liberal camp – he has governed more as a centrist than I'd like. I think he should have led on same sex marriage, instead of treating it as a political expedient. I also think he should have ridden herd on his own Party Faithful about Health Care, and then 'splained it to the American people much better than he has. I think he has given away too much in his tax negotiations with Congress. And I've written here in the RC about the disquiet I feel over the drones issue. The only way I can live with the current system is that I trust this Prez to understand the constitutional gravity of his actions – in great contrast to the "dam' piece of paper" approach of his predecessor. I don't like "inevitable collateral damage" – it's a palliative I wouldn't take, and I do not think he takes much comfort in it, either.
All that said, I believe your numbers are greatly exaggerated for effect, and ultimately unknowable in any event. How you could equate even those numbers with the actions of Mr. Bush in fomenting a fraudulent war for ulterior motives, and the hundreds of thousands of casualties that flowed from that policy is truly beyond my comprehension. You might try calculating how many lives have Not been sacrificed on all sides because of the American withdrawal from that conflict, and the coming wind-down in Afghastlystan.
Overall, I'm reasonably satisfied with Mr. Obama's approach to governing at-home, and especially abroad. I do not blame him for the economy – we should have done More, not less, but the Congress indefensibly would not relent, precisely so they could try to pin it on him in this campaign. I trust him, and I look forward to the continuation of his Administration, 'til it's Hillary's turn. And you know how I feel about the alternative.
As to a protest vote – and not having yet read the article, the only reason I can see to do that is that if Romney wins the popular vote, but loses the Electoral College, we can finally get bi-partisan support to get rid of that anachronism. I am tired of California's being taken for granted by both sides, except when we're being shaken-down, and I don't want to have to travel to Nevada to poll-watch, lest there be any fraudulent anti-fraudulent-vote chicanery afoot thereabouts.
a resident of Danville
on Oct 25, 2012 at 2:59 pm
I'm not equating Obama's drone strikes with Bush's wars. I voted John Kerry. Bush was WAY WORSE than Obama. I would vote for Obama over Bush any day! I think Bush belongs in jail. Back in 2003, my family and I walked arm and arm with all those freaks in San Francisco. It was exhilarating. I disagreed with them about almost everything. And they needed to shower and get haircuts. But for that brief moment we shared a common cause against the war and against Bush.
There are people who currently work for the CIA who engaged in actual torture under Bush. I wish Obama would follow the law and prosecute them.
I'm shocked that so many Americans like you look the other way because their guy is in power. That goes for both Republicans and Democrats.
Obama's lead in California is 12 points. We can cast protest votes against Romney and Obama without any fear that it will impact the current race.
Why don't you join Camille Paglia, Conor Friedersdorf of The Atlantic and many prominent Democrats and Republicans who are not voting for either Romney or Obama? Let our voices be heard!
I'll make you a deal. I'll do it if you do it. I'll even vote Green Party (gasp) if you want. Now those Green guys are freaking nut jobs. But I'd rather vote Green than have a war criminal (Obama) in the White House or a guy who says he wants to be a war criminal (Romney).
What do you say?
a resident of Danville
on Oct 25, 2012 at 3:12 pm
Do me a favor. Click on that first link. The one with Esquire article. Look at the picture of the little kid that Obama killed. Look into his eyes. Let it sink in. Do it.
a resident of Alamo
on Oct 25, 2012 at 3:59 pm
What do I say? I'd say that it sounds like you and the Greens are, ahem, peas-in-a-pod, and I wish you every happiness.
a resident of Danville
on Oct 25, 2012 at 4:18 pm
No we're not. I hate those guys. Bunch of smelly hippies.
But I'm open minded.
You? You're: "My party, right or wrong."
And that's a shame.
a resident of Danville
on Oct 25, 2012 at 4:22 pm
For the record, Obama's lead in CA is closer to twenty percent than ten percent.
a resident of Danville
on Oct 25, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Citizen P,
You might be right. California seems to attract a lot of illogical people.
I was quoting the PPIC poll that came out this morning. It says Obama is leading by 12 points.
Web Link
The same poll shows support for Prop. 30 at 48%. It's not looking so good for tax and spend liberals.
Tom needs to do a better job cheerleading the cause.
a resident of Alamo
on Oct 25, 2012 at 4:39 pm
MY party? I think I'm registered as an Independent, and we don't have parties. I happen to like Obama, and Hillary -- I just wish Barack was more of a leader and less of a politician, and paradoxically, I wish he was better at the rough-and-tumble of politics. He'll probably make a better Supreme, like Taft.
(Re: Greens -- I meant the nut-job part.)
a resident of Danville
on Oct 25, 2012 at 4:57 pm
ha ha
a resident of Danville
on Oct 25, 2012 at 5:24 pm
Wow Tom, your response to SPCWT was remarkable - on so many levels. Is Obama truly a man you trust, as you stated, '...I trust this Prez, to understand the constitutional gravity of his actions..." How low are your standards when it comes to expectations of politicians?
Obama understands his absolute selfish needs and agenda- that is all he understands. He can't comprehend the gravity of the meaning of the words in the constitution because he only sees himself and his agenda. THAT is all he ever sees. He does not respect the constitution or this country. He has contempt for the USA. He is a secularist/socialist and this is what he is striving towards with he policies in our country
The most recent example of this "man/juvenile" Obama, who can't be trusted or even depended as our Commander in Chief: The dishonest, disgusting, disgraceful way he handled our American Ambassador's murder along with three other Americans. The President and his Vice President knew at 6:00 pm the day of this killing in Benghazi, Libya the violence was occurring at the embassy. Obama, Clinton, and his staff let those men suffer and DIE, trying to defend themselves against a terrorist group - over at least a nine hour period. We had drones flying overhead and Obama did NOTHING to help these American Men. No one can dispute this now; they can only ignore these facts - particularly the national press. Obama flew to Las Vegas the very next day, knowing the truth of this tragedy. Any leader of the US with any respect for our country and his staff, would have stayed and handled and managed this murder while they were occurring.
-What the heck does that say to you? When he and his administration KNEW these facts at the time and blamed a frickin video? This President of ours, went in front of the United Nations and claimed the murders and attacks were due to a home made video when he KNEW that was a lie. What does that say about trust? How do you trust a slick guy like Obama, who is a chronic and unrepentant liar?
Sadly Obama understands the Constitution - he doesn't CARE about gravity or respect towards the Constitution because he has only disdain for this Constitution. Drunk with power, he leads his liberal administration machine and rolls over this Constitution and rules of any kind; taking action regardless if it's legal or not - all from his disdain for our constitution. Ethics? Rules? They don't apply to him or his dishonest administration and the "talking heads" supporting him in the press. Obama needs all the help he can get in this campaign and the press and journalists in the papers and television stations know what an amateur and rookie the guy from ACORN truly is - this is why they work so hard to support Obama.
Our president has no respect - zero, for playing by rules or leading transparently. He is a man/boy. A juvenile who came from a background that he still won't share. How did this young boy learn how to communicate so dishonestly? Where did he learn this skill? At all the elite private high schools and the three private colleges he attended? Who paid? How did he manage to pay off scholarships or loans? Why hasn't he ever, ever had a paying job in the private sector?! Even in college when he was driving his crummy little car. Wonder how he could afford a car? Working...hmmm...Maybe beneath him? Laziness?
Who knows... but I'd prefer to have a man or woman in the White House who has honor for our military - not confusion. Respect for everyone in our country - even newborns or unborn children. As a senator he voted THREE TIMES to legalize late term abortions. Even France doesn't legalize this barbaric treatment of human beings. Killing unborn babies at eight and nine months...What kind of human being votes for this? Tom, would you??
He makes his decisions behind closed doors, on his terms. He will take all credit for anything viewed as a success (Osama Bin laden) but will blame, and blame, and blame others when things are viewed negatively. He turns his back on family and friends (Reverend Wright etc.) at the drop of a hat. Are these characteristics anyone wants to see in a grown adult man? Let alone a leader of the United States? The "main man" who's supposed to have our backs?
This lazy leader handles himself deplorably - how can you believe this guy when he's such a fake? He wasn't taught how to respect people. This man is a Chicago elitist thug and when he got into office he had no international or business experience what so ever - none. Purely academic. He was was living in the comfortable cocoon of academia and community organizing. Speaking for a living. Brilliant! This is the only area this president is brilliant; according to reports on his college grades and his autobiography, he wasn't a good student. Mediocre grades.
This country is doomed if Obama wins the election.
a resident of Danville
on Oct 25, 2012 at 6:49 pm
Ann: God bless you! Agree 100% with your factual, logical analysis.
a resident of Alamo
on Oct 25, 2012 at 6:54 pm
Dear Ann: I think your post speaks for itself, but if you have source material for any of it, I'd be interested in seeing it.
a resident of Danville
on Oct 25, 2012 at 7:22 pm
The worst example of Obama's lack of character or integrity was making Hilary Clinton take the fall for his failures in responding to our diplomats in Libya calling for more protection for their safety. Although I disagree with Mrs. Clinton's political views, I respect her for having the courage to take responsibility for Libya, unlike Obama who has never taken responsibility for any of his mistakes. He apparently learned this from his wonderful father who abandoned his mother and had almost no contact with young Barack, but went on to inpregnant many other young ladies, never being a father to any of the children. I guess this is where his dream of wealth redistribution comes from.
a resident of Walnut Creek
on Oct 25, 2012 at 8:35 pm
Obama has been in over his head since 2008. He lacks experience. He is a narcissist. He is a race monger. He will be defeated..too bad Tom and Chris Matthews will have to find a different way for that thrill up their legs.
a resident of Danville
on Oct 25, 2012 at 10:24 pm
I have a feeling that, in Ann's house, Faux News is never turned off. Or perhaps she is locked in a "mind-meld" with that radio nut-job, Mark Levin.
Anyway, Ann is fond (no, obsessed) with saying that PRESIDENT Obama doesn't respect the Constitution. But, she leaves out ANY examples of what she means by that. Got any?
She also claims that President Obama has never held a job in the private sector. Last time I checked, the University of Chicago, where President Obama was a law professor, is a private university.
Ann also says that when President Obama "got into office" he had no international experience. Not sure which office she is referring to. When he was elected president, he had spent four years on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee -- surely pretty good international experience, and certainly more than President Reagan had when he was elected president.
Ranting and raving sure can be a lot of fun for you, right, Ann? But, it would be a lot more interesting for the rest of us if you included facts once in a while -- real facts.
a resident of Alamo
on Oct 26, 2012 at 6:28 am
Ann, Am and Trina: obviously I'm on very different distribution lists from the ones you favor, as I find the scattershot invective hurled Mr. Obama's way extreme, factually absurd, and frankly offensive in several instances. I'll take those charges to indicate two things: that election day must not be far-off, and that I'm pretty sure I know what scary costumes you'll be wearing for Halloween.
And Trina, as to "the thrill up my legs?" While I appreciate your concern (I think), and ol' Chris is on his own, I can happily report that my legs are well taken care-of -- regardless of the impending electoral outcome. Thrilled, even.
a resident of Danville
on Oct 26, 2012 at 1:48 pm
There's certainly no accounting for some political views. But, reading the (still after 4 years) extreme reactions to our president, and the nature and tone of the language used, I can't help but think that the origin of these feelings (whether directly from the hearts of the posters on this forum, or indirectly from the media sources they listen to) is the deeply prejudiced view that a black man -- any black man -- can never deserve to be president of this great nation.
Sad, but true.
One of the things that leads me to this conclusion is that the right-leaning posters on this forum harp on President Obama's significant educational and professional accomplishments, and try to disparage them -- attempting to show that they are somehow illegitimate or not what they seem.
Yet, they had no trouble embracing the rather shabby qualifications of President George W. Bush (well-known to be a white man), despite his lackluster college grades, his long-term alcoholism, his garbled syntax, and his dismal track record in business, running several companies into the ground.
What else can explain it other than race?
a resident of Danville
on Oct 26, 2012 at 3:10 pm
Dave: As usual, you liberals have play race card when you have nothing to defend valid criticism. By the way, Condy Rice, an African American female, would make a better President than either Obama or Romney. That kinda negates your race card hysterics.
a resident of Danville
on Oct 26, 2012 at 3:14 pm
Dave is so clever. He calls "Fox News" "Faux News." You might have thought he just made a typo, but notice how many times he makes the SAME typo. Practically every post he ever makes. Is it just a coincidence? Not likely.
If you do a little investigative research and look up the word faux, you'll discover that it's actually a French word that means "false." Can you believe that!!!?
Isn't that funny!!? False News. Ha ha ha ha!!!!
Oh Dave, you are such a character.
a resident of Danville
on Oct 26, 2012 at 4:23 pm
Dave: Your attacks on Romney must because of his religion is a Mormon, and you simply must not want a Mormon in the Whitehouse. What else could it be? How does that religion card make you feel? Thought so. Stick to factual analysis and stop with the lame race card.
a resident of Danville
on Oct 26, 2012 at 4:54 pm
Of course. What was I thinking? No one has ever used the words, "boy," "lazy," "thug" (see Ann's post above) as racial code words. Never. Not in Danville. Just keep telling yourself that.
a resident of Danville
on Oct 26, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Dave - Believe it or not, I had some hope for our country when Obama was elected. It was exciting to have crossed that barrier; having a black man elected as president. I truly felt hopeful.
On the other hand, after four years of lying, dividing men from women, Hispanics, union and non-union members, Black Americans from White Americans, class and racial warfare encouraged and supported by Obama, I can't imagine a worse example of an adult leader in our White House!!! His lack of class and gratitude has been shocking, but this is what you get from a guy who was raised without a father. Sorry, but he missed some lessons he can't learn on his own as a narcissist.
The United States deserves much, much better. We deserve an adult leader - man or woman who is capable of negotiating and implementing policies that help the US citizens - not hurt the US citizens. I want to know I can depend on the president to "have our backs" as Mitt Romney believes and said in the last debate.
I'm tired of watching this juvenile in the White House. It has been the most embarrassing four years. This man/child trying to shove his ideals down our throats without legitimate discussion within the Senate and Congress. Seventy percent of Americans were against government health care and yet he made sure it passed - regardless of whether any of the politicians (including (Speaker of the House Nancy Peloisi) had read the over 1,000 pages of health care rules under Obama Care. Which they hadn't!!!!!!!
This president chose to IGNORE the cries for help from his own Ambassador of Libya, a citizen of the United States - prior to being SLAUGHTERED by terrorists in Benghazi. Instead of managing the tragedy or sending help or staying at the White House to take care of business and try to save lives - he flew to Las Vegas to campaign - and to spew his lies for what he's going to do for all of us individually, in this country if he wins the election.
After 17 vacations, the golfing, sleeping in each day at the House, everyone else doing his work while he sits back and talks and talks and talks: I would love to see someone working as hard as Mitt Romney does......for us. Not for himself as Obama does.
How dare you Dave, accuse anyone on this site of being racist because we don't like the policies or the lack of character in this president that we've had to stomach for the last four years.
You sound a bit bitter. Those darn chips on the shoulders. Maybe it's time to see a chiropractor?
a resident of Alamo
on Oct 26, 2012 at 5:49 pm
I'm with Donna Brazile on this one -- as she has said, it's impossible to have a discussion about race at this time in America. It's just not useful. I think she meant (my words now) that it's because making the charge provokes the other side to go into High Dudgeon, how-dare-you mode -- happens every time. Too easy.
I don't think there's much doubt that it's at-play, and that the GOP has played dirty pool with it by designing so-called "dog whistles" for race into their commercials (e.g., the bogus "welfare" ads), but that's politics. I wouldn't be surprised if there are whispers of "cult" coming from the Dems, although I haven't heard them.
I also wrote earlier in the RC (that's a clever abbrev for Raucous Caucus, with no apologies to S-P, the stealth commenter) about a "Bradley Effect" of from two-to-five points that has been estimated by one clever researcher -- I suspect that's about right. But that's not the "race" we're dealing with here -- this race card resides in the profoundly disrespectful language and outrageous charges leveled against this Prez -- with impunity, mostly without support, as if they are self-evident.
When I teach Employment Law, I talk about how I believe the CR Act of 1964 was been a force for Acceptance of difference in the American culture (cognitive dissonance, and all that). The Head of the department, a black woman in her 60s, disagrees and believes it has, at best, driven it underground. There's not an Angry Black Woman bone in her body -- and I think she may be right.
But Donna's right, too -- so we just move on.
a resident of Danville
on Oct 26, 2012 at 6:26 pm
Tom: Did racism play a role in your parties vicious attacks on Republican Herman Cain? Be honest. You see racism only when it helps your argument or political views, right? By the way, how come the California Bar website does not list you as ever being a licensed attorney in California? Have you ever taken the California bar exam? Was racism the reason you failed? Sad that students are getting lectures on employment law from someone who is not even a licensed attorney in California.
a resident of Danville
on Oct 26, 2012 at 7:33 pm
Dave - Geez Louise, I gotta tell you, I did not use any words in my comments with anything racial in mind. That kind of makes me sick to my stomach that you've decided to go that direction. It truly disgusts me to think this is the only direction you can take this conversation. We have all been affected by bias at one time or another - possibly many times in our lives and it's horrible.
Why is it OK for the left to use any type of words they choose to express themselves, in their writings or conversations but unacceptable and even called out (dishonestly) when the reverse is true?
For the record, I didn't embrace George Bush's qualifications. Is he on the ballot again this November? Here's a question for you?... Who is Obama going to blame for the last four catastrophic years if he is re-elected?
Time will tell............
a resident of Alamo
on Oct 26, 2012 at 9:29 pm
Am: it's a matter of public record that I am a member of the CA Bar, number 175975 (and IL and TX before that). I am actually pretty proud of the fact that I passed CA in 1995, having had to take the full exam, in my 40s, because I had not practiced for eight years prior when I was running businesses for the DuPont Company and Conoco Inc. I was 18 years out of law school at the time.
I am on Inactive status, meaning only that I do not currently practice for a living. I can change back to Active any time by paying a full year's dues. You could look it up: Web Link . And before you step in it again, please know that I was awarded Adjunct of the Year at GGU in 2007 -- there are about 500 adjuncts at the U., at any given time.
Now, you tell me, counselor, why was it that you thought all of this is relevant to the third debate?
a resident of Danville
on Oct 26, 2012 at 9:54 pm
Tom: You are not allowed to practice law in California, so when you posted in this thread about you teaching employment law in California, you opened the door to your lack of license to practice law in California. Don't infer to people you are allowed to practice law in California, when you are not legally allowed to do so. You are either licensed to practice law, or are not licensed to practice law, and Tom you are not allowed to practice. By the way, your inability to practice law has nothing to do with racism either.
a resident of Alamo
on Oct 26, 2012 at 10:16 pm
American: are you daft? Drunk? I am Fully Licensed to practice law in California! I Chose Inactive status within the profession because I have also Chosen to recruit as a way to make a living, and it's $300/year cheaper on the dues front. You should be applauding my fiscal responsibility, in not paying more than I have-to to retain my credentials! If I Choose tomorrow to return to law practice, I can be in court on Monday afternoon. Did you even look at the helpful weblink I provided that explains all that?
If anyone has opened a door, sir, you have -- to the opportunity to apologize for your now twice-repeated blunder. I doubt you will Choose to walk through it.
a resident of Alamo
on Oct 26, 2012 at 10:43 pm
In other news, Romney campaign surrogate John Sununu stated for the record that he believes Gen. Powell's endorsement of The President is because they are both black. Mr. Romney has so far not repudiated the statement, but then, neither has he dissociated himself from IN Senator candidate Mourdock's claim that his god intends for some rape victims to become pregnant.
And here's a perspective on the Powell endorsement from a Republican who's pretty unhappy with his Party: Web Link It bears on the discussion, above, at least the part that doesn't try to impugn my professional credentials.
BTW, American, you are invited to sit-in on my class, if you like -- and then decide first-hand whether I'm any good at it. You can even participate -- but there, you'll need actual evidence to back up your claims.
a resident of Danville
on Oct 27, 2012 at 7:11 am
Tom: You brag about being an "adjunct" professor teaching employment law as part of your lecture to us Danville Express readers, suggesting that makes you an "Expert" on the debate issue in this thread? Then you freak out when I look up licensed attorneys currently allowed to practice in California and your name does not show up. Than you accuse me of being drunk and being off topic, when it was you who brought up being attorney teaching law? And you still never answered my question on topic if democrats vicious attacks on republican Herman Cain had anything to do with racism?
FYI, best professors I had in college and grad school didn't pretend to have all the answers on everything, were open minded, not defensive, and good listeners to opinions of others, so no, I see no reason to listen to a lecture from you. F. Y. I. If you ever decide to try to become authorized to practice law , better make sure you have all your MCLE units, and try to attend classes dealing with the art of listening.
a resident of Alamo
on Oct 27, 2012 at 7:50 am
Really, American? That's your response?
You know, my Mama taught me, long before law school, that the first step in climbing out of a hole is to stop digging. I'm not responsible for your lousy internet search skills – the record is there, and I even pointed you to it. I have my "long form" CA law license in the bookcase – shall I take a photo and post it for you? Hell, I'll even show you my college transcripts for $5 million, Mr. Trump. Your 'gotcha' moment has gone south on you; stop digging (I've given-up on apology).
Herman Cain was never a serious candidate; that he once led the GOP poll is a testament to the shallow pool of alternatives. I'm pretty sure Mr. Obama would've relished the opportunity to run against him, since he had demonstrated remarkable ignorance all by himself, and he had paved his own way out of the campaign by his previous extra-curricular sexual behavior, and then lying about it. I'm not sure what vicious attacks you are referring-to, but most of the mud being slung around that time was intramural. Why would the Dems bother -- when their opponents were doing all the work for them?
a resident of Danville
on Oct 27, 2012 at 7:59 am
Tom: So you look the other way when Clinton has extramarital affairs and lies about, but you persecute Herman Cain for it? "Professor",does race have anything to do with that?
a resident of Alamo
on Oct 27, 2012 at 8:24 am
Persecute? Nah, I just said that it rendered him unelectable, and it did. As to Mr. Clinton (Bill, not George), I think I noted in an earlier blog my astonishment that he remains a popular figure -- but he does.
PS -- I like George, too.
a resident of Diablo
on Nov 4, 2012 at 8:31 am
Chris Rock's G-rated message of reassurance to caucasian voters on the race issue: Web Link


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These exotic crepes call for tapioca flour and full-fat coconut milk and can be wrapped around either sweet or savory fillings, from fruit and nut butter to bacon and vegetables. Serve these warm or cold for breakfast, brunch, or anytime of the day. The nutritional information is calculated using 1 tablespoon almond butter and 1/4 cup blueberries per crepe.
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- Combine all the ingredients in a medium bowl and mix completely.
- Heat a non-stick skillet over medium heat.
- When hot, pour in about 1/3 cup of the mixture and tilt the pan in all directions to spread out batter to desired thickness.
- Cook both sides until very lightly browned (2-3 minutes on each side).
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I did not have tapioca flour so I tried grinding the pearl tapioca I had in the pantry into flour. My little mini blender is crappy and it did not work. The recipe did not work out. I salvaged it though by making it into a pudding for my kids lol
I found tapioca flour at a health food store today marked down to half price! I got two bags of Bob's redmill for 4.19! Woot. I came home and made the crepes. The thiness of the batter worried me but they came out perfectly. My son LOVED them and requested that I make more.
I don't understand how this recipe is paleo-friendly. Neither starch nor butter meet the paleo requirements.
What is a good substitute for tapioca starch/flour? Would almond flour/meal do ok? Or coconut flour?
What about arrowroot powder/flour as a substitute for tapioca?
Is this supposed to use cooking coconut milk (like from a can) or something like So Delicious from a carton?
I made these for breakfast today and thought they were just ok. I think I'd rather save my tapioca flour for Pao de Queijo and make almond flour-based pancakes instead of these.
Two tricks on making these work:
1) Unless you have a very good non-stick pan, oil the pan first (coconut oil etc) to make sure the gooey stuff doesn't stick to the pan.
2) Make them thin as possible. Think crepes, not pancakes.
Oh, and toppings are what make crepes. Make it good.
What about a list of topping ideas?
– Apple Chutney
– Cranberry-orange compote
– Sausage, zucchini, onion "hash"
I just have to say, I'm obsessed with crepes and this one is my favorite recipe so far, even more than the banana almond pancakes. I agree with wfumed2 that it's the toppings that make it awesome. I just did strawberries, almond butter, and pecans. I'm thinking of putting some cocoa powder as a topping as well though.
Wow! What a great site! You have some exciting recipe ideas here. I am forwarding the link to your site to my trainees that are on a Paleo Challenge. If they actually use some of these ideas they will certainly have a better chance at a long term shift to the Paleo Lifestyle. We finish the challenge the day before Thanksgiving. How is that for setting them up for a new way to go through the Holiday Season?
At any rate, great blog! I am so glad my wife found this blog and left the page up on the computer last night.
I am impressed that you get back to everyone who hits you with a barrage of difficult questions. I wish people could try to remember a few simple words from Robb Wolf a while back, "The Paleo Lifestyle is more about intention, than perfection!" You are setting the stage for amazing intention! Keep going!
I'm thinking of making the crepes the night before and store in fridge until ready for breakfast. Will the taste and texture be affected?
Eating these as I type. Made the. This morning after weeks of being on my weekly menu. AH-MAZ-ING!!!! I filled mine with banana, strawberry, Greek yogurt, and a tiny drizzle of honey. I can definitely see these as a dessert when those cravings hit. Thank you so much for the things you do!!
This recipe looks delicious, will definitely try it soon!
As far as price and availability go, here in Holland you can find tapioca starch (usually labeled tapioca flour in most Asian markets. It comes in plastic bags and is about a third the price of the fancy brands (Bob's, etc) they sell at health food stores – I assume this would be true of Asian markets in the States and other countries as well. Here we get a 500g (roughly a pound) bag for about a euro.
I didn't know tapioca flour was allowed! What about Chebe bread doughs made all from tapioca flour?
Okay, thanks! I don't use them too often, but when we have a craving for pizza, I found it's the best crust!! I won't add cheese of course! Thanks again!
my first attempt was a total BUST….remade SUPER thin and MUCH better…thank goodness as i was so looking forward to them and had to throw the first try out LOL
Not bad! I am definitely not a crepe person, but they turned out well.
Made these this morning…. so yummy. they almost tasted like nan bread and i actually think i might make them next time we have curry. kids love them, and non paleo husband was surpised by how good they where (one more step closer to converting him lol) just wish there was a pin it button so i could pin these lol
I made these and they were awesome. We used them like flour tortillas for taco salads. Even my 18 month old and 3 year old (who have just been introduced to the primal lifestyle) devoured them! Shockingly enough my significant other went back for seconds they were one of the better tortilla substitutes for sure. Thanks for a great recipe!
I found these to be nearly I inedible. No matter how thin, they ended up thick and gooey. Perhaps even less batter and nearly burned and they'd be okay. Crêpes may just end up a dish I cheat on. I'll definitely try almond flour first though.
Just FYI – if you have any asian supermarkets near you, my friends and I get our tapioca starch there very cheap. They vary from $0.69 a bag to about $1.79 at most. Hope that helps someone :) I love these crepes, especially for savory dishes!
I fell upon this blog by doing a search for Tapioca crepes on the off chance that someone had actually done this. I'm very happy I did. I've been making and eating Palatschinken, something I learned from my Austrian mother, all my life. I love them and now my kids do too. However, about a year and a half ago I started dabbling in this Paleo diet primarily for weight loss reasons. In the process I discovered I was gluten intolerant. I've lost 40 lbs and a lifelong misery of digestive problems. Alas, I miss my Palatschinken. I'm a master at making them and I love eating them but wheat flour is out of the question. I've tried both almond flour and coconut flour, both disasters. They don't stay together or have the right texture and are not appetizing. The tapioca flour sounds very promising. I will let you know how they turn out. P.S. I understand buckwheat works well also but have yet to try it.
I made these today, it was like eating chewy slugs and then swallowing chewy slugs. Gross, never again
I'm having fun trying various recipes from this website and I have found a lot of wonderful new recipes. However, I"m not a fan of the tapioca crepes. They were too chewy/stretchy without any flavor. I have made crepes with Almond and Garbanzo bean flour and I liked the flavor better. The consistency was also fine. Thank you!
I really liked the taste of this. Im doing a lowfodmap protocol. I think the coconut milk upsets my stomach however. I substituted the coconut milk with water and it tasted like egg more than anything. I'm just looking for something quick and simple I can make in the morning that is starchy. Any thoughts on a substitute?
Wow! These were super easy to make, didn't stick to the pan, and were easy to flip over when cooking. I used an all-purpose flour by Red Mill and it worked great!
I don't know what the problem was but WOW these are terrible! Completely inedible no matter what we put with them. (berries, bananas, burrito filling, etc) They had the texture of half melted rubber bands and a strange flavor. I was sure to use full fat coconut milk, organic eggs, and good quality tapioca. I had no problem with sticking and I sprayed my pan well. Tried making them in both cast iron and nonstick. Both yielded rubbery bland and downright nasty crepes. After making these all I could think about was making real crepes, exactly the opposite thing I wanted to happen. =( Sorry for being negative but this is just what happened for me, we ended up eating eggs for breakfast.
I made these this am, and they were very snot~like. I reread the posts, and noticed i didn't have used carton coconut milk, but the canned stuff. Maybe that will make a difference. I have never liked tapioca pudding, and these crepes reminded me of that consistency. Today is also my first day doing paleo, so I have many more recipes to try out.
I love the Paleo idea but am allergic to coconut. Any suggestions for a substitute. It seems most of the recipes either have coconut flour, coconut milk, or coconut oil.
I am wondering what can be substituted for the egg. I can't have eggs.
I am so glad I read the reviews of this before making this recipe AND didn't pay toooooo much attention to some of the more negative stuff. I thought these were pretty good. This was my first paleo recipe try, and they turned out great. We did crumbled bacon, no butter and no berries. However, I am already thinking in the summer these will be amazing with some fresh berries. You have to make sure they are nice and thin and that they get just a tiny bit brown on each side. I didn't find them gummy, yucky or "snotty". :) If I added natural vanilla bean, is that cool, or no?
You can purchase tapioca flour at Asian markets. They fairly inexpensive. Just a little over a dollar and you can make so much with it. Hope this helps.
These were great! A little gooey, but I went the sweet route with them so they really reminded me of a sticky cinnamon bun. After a couple of weird outcomes, I figured out that the thinner the better, and to keep them in the pan til you get golden edges. We put almond butter, sliced strawberries and bananas, cinnamon and a tiny drizzle of honey on them and they totally hit the spot. My two year old inhaled them… he had more than I did. Definitely adding this recipe to my favorites.
I just tried these. They are horrible. What a wast of good ingredients.
I just wonder if this recipe is good for dinner with some chicken , tomato and cheese?
Just made these this morning. First off you HAVE to make them thin, these are crepes not pancakes. I had to mist my pan with a bit of olive oil before the first one but they all came off beautifully. I used tapioca starch which I got for $0.99 at my local Asian store for a 2-3 cup bag. In total the recipe made 4.5 crepes for me.
The crepes came out beautifully thin and defiantly reminded me of traditional crepes in appearance. When I tried a bit alone out of curiosity I didn't care much for the stretchy slightly rubbery feeling in my mouth. BUT when I added the toppings it was delicious. We had both savory and sweet options of almond butter, apple sauce, and a side of onions/red peppers/ and sausage sauteed.
The crepes really fill you up, I will defiantly make these again.
I tried these and I loved them…I filled them with strawberries but unfortunately the strawberries were a bit too tart. I ran out of honey so I sprinkled some "Raw Coconut Crystals" that my husband bought for me. Is this allowed? It says it is low glycemic sugar alternative and is made by Coconut Secret.
I've had the same problem as several other commenters: they end up really chewy and kind of rubbery. Am I making them too thick? I tried using less batter, longer cooking times, and lower heat and got slightly better results. I'm thinking I'll keep making them thinner and cooking them slower until I get something that looks like the picture! What do you think?
How about nutella instead of almond butter?
If I am making these thinner (more of a tortilla style for consumption the next day), do they need to be refrigerated or can they be left out at room temperature?
I actually made the mistake of buying coconut cream for this but it works! May not be totally Paleo but it's delicious!
when I made pancakes from the tapioca I found mixing a bit a tablespoon or so of amond flour helped to make it less rubbery
Just wondering if buckwheat would fit in to the Paleo allowed foods, as it is actually not a grain but a fruit seed related to rhubarb.
I made mine very thin and because they are kind of rubbery, they were perfect for spring rolls. Filled them with shrimp, shredded lettuce and cabbage, match-stick cucumbers and carrots dipped in a mixture of cashew butter and sriracha sauce. Everyone loved them.
My husband is trying the paleo diet and I'm all for it. I am however allergic to tree nuts, and most of the recipes have nut flours or butters. It's not a horrible, going to kill me allergy, but enough to be uncomfortable. Can you suggest a substitute for the nut flours or butters?
I really wanted to like this but ended up throwing them away. I tried to make them as thin as possible, just covering the pan with the batter. Each time, they came out gummy, and even seemed raw to me on the inside no matter how long I cooked them for. This was my first recipe with tapioca flour so maybe it's just something you get used to but I would not make these again. They don't have a whole lot of flavor either so they definitely need toppings.
I bet there is such inconsistency in the results because there is a lot of inconsistency in canned coconut milk. Some has lots of cream some is very watery some has guar gum etc. just a guess. Maybe report on which you used and what happened, maybe add a little water if your batter isn't thin enough to easily run to the edges of your pan?
I made these this morning and they are amazing. I'm basically eating the whole batch of them today and allowing myself to indulge because its satisfying that long built up carb craving. I made sure I didnt put too much of the coconut cream in, about 50/50 cream and the watery part and I actually thinned it just a little more right at the end just to be sure the batter was watery enough. When you run it out to the sides of the pan it should instantly bubble up across the middle of the crepe just like a real crepe does. If it doesnt do this either your batter is too thick or the pan isnt hot enough. Flip when they crisp up at the edges and start to brown. I seriously had one with pate, greens and mustard, then another with almond butter and blueberries and for lunch i went back for the cold ones with fresh strawberries and more almond butter. I wish i had cold cuts in the house! These are the best indulgence i've had since starting paleo a few weeks ago, thank you for saving my sanity!!! xo
I was very excited to come across this recipe, but they turned out very gummy. I substituted rice milk since my daughter cannot have coconut milk. I made sure the batter was thin and poured thin into the pan. Not sure why these didn't turn out. Disappointed.
I made these today, but used 1/2 tapioca flour & 1/2 coconut flour, because I had heard something about tapioca flour soaking up the liquids & making the batter very thick, which is exactly what happened anyway. So I added a little more coconut milk, but the batter was still too thick for real crepes. However, they still made amazing pancakes, a little thinner than usual, and not rubbery at all. We had them with fresh blackberries from my garden. Next time I will try with a little dab of almond flour instead of coconut flour, because I don't want the rubbery consistency but still need the thinness for crepes. Thanks for all the tips about where to buy tapioca flour on the cheap!
Tried these thing morning and they were a hit! They were strangely shaped (I found them too thick to properly spread) but it still worked out. We topped them with a blueberry compote made with fresh blueberries and raw honey. Will certainly keep this in the rotation for Sunday breakfast!
In brasil they are making a similar recipe called beiju with just tapioca and water without any oil, coconutmilk or whatever
Would a flax egg substitute work? I can't have eggs but this sounds and looks great!
Just wanted to say thanks for this super simple tasty recipe that's incredibly satiating. I add ghee either in the mix or before I pour the crepe into the pan and it turns into crispy goodness.
I made these this morning for breakfast. After going Paleo three years ago hubby was getting really tired of eggs. He liked them so that's a plus. I put homemade blackberry jam on one and then I made another one into a quesadilla. It was fantastic!
We tried these this morning for the first time. My husband LOVES crepes and has been missing them! They turned out crispy and delicious!! We are going to try the leftovers tonight to make chicken tacos. I think they will be perfect! :)


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