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Tuesday, August 24, 2010
Introducing Windows users to Linux
To begin with, I would like to share a simple thought that is somehow linked to most issues I have found:
When one is excited about Linux and wants to let others experience it, it's easy to miss details that may seem unimportant at first sight, but may end up being critical for the end user. Always put his/her interests and needs first.
The first and most important question. Will the end user really benefit from moving to Linux? Yes, it is virus free, better performing in general, boots quicker, etc. That's all very nice, but will the user appreciate that? Even more importantly, will s/he even care when comparing that to the learning curve required to get to grips with the new operating system?
For the average Linux enthusiast it is very difficult to understand that the many benefits of his/her favorite OS will go unnoticed, but believe me, some people couldn't care less. If on top of that there is risk that certain applications/features may be lost in the process, I would recommend leaving that person alone with his/her current setup.
As an example, I remember when I tried to get a friend of mine to use Linux. We eventually found that her iPod settings were not fully supported. She could manage her music library, but lost her playlists. I tried several things to workaround the problem, but she got increasingly frustrated and eventually asked me to install Windows back. That was a clear case of a user who was not interested in computers, using a minimal set of features. The benefits coming from Linux were clearly outweighted by the challenges related to its adoption, which eventually resulted in rejection.
While I didn't back then, I now realise I should have never tried to get such user to migrate to Linux in the first place.
Sometimes users that don't have computer skills may be intimidated by even the slightest change. The Linux complicated reputation, if they know about it, doesn't necessarily help either. As a result, those users are often unconfortable with the idea of migrating to a new OS, which will set them in the perfect position to reject the idea. The best way to aproach it with this type of users (actually, with any kind of users) is by selling the idea and having the user buy it, as opposed to imposing it just because "we know better".
In my experience, the best way to get users to like Linux is by letting them experience it. Leave their computer alone and bring yours along or have them visit your place. Have them sit in front of your machine and let them experience the many features you love. As far as I have seen, a guided tour is by far the most powerful way of getting users excited about Linux. Bring to their attention details that they may appreciate but not necessarily pay attention to. Here are some ideas:
- Fast bootup and shutdown times.
- Great overall performance
- Fast Internet browsing partially resulting from the lack of antivirus software
- Desktop effects and animations.
- Open source applications are similar to their Windows counterparts and easy to use
The idea is to get the users excited and wanting to give Linux a chance. A willing user is key, because that is the only thing that will keep a positive attitude when challenges appear, and believe me, they will. In fact, it is also critical to try to explain some of those challenges before hand. Here are some examples:
- Limited hardware support.
- Limited support for applications and games designed for Windows.
- Some very specific Windows applications may not have an open source counterpart.
Like I said before, it is important that the user gets excited about using Linux, but it is also important that s/he holds the right expectations.
They say an image is worth a thousand words, and sometimes looks are the best presentation card for Linux. The extreme customization available makes it easy for a Linux desktop to become a piece of eye candy. Unfortunately, most distros don't really focus on getting their default profiles to be eye catching, so a bit of help on this department is surely welcome.
With just a few tweaks you can make the default profile of a new installation look very appealing, which should get the user's attention straight away. In fact, if you have the time, I would encourage teaching a few simple visual tweaks, such as changing the wallpaper, setting up a new icon theme, etc.
One of the most sensible parts of migrating a user is the transfer of his/her data. Depending on the user profile, this may be a huge task or a piece of cake. Regardless of its complexity, make sure you get it right, or else the rest of the process will pretty much mean nothing.
In my opinion, the best way to go about it is by avoiding drastic changes. A step by step approach usually works out best in the long run. In other words, start with non intrusive approaches that will let the user keep his/her setup intact. Using Wubi to provide a safe dual installation or installing Linux on an inexpensive USB drive, there are many ways to let users taste it without compromising their current installation. In addition, users can pace their adaptation by using Linux when they please.
When facing the eventual full migration, in case it is required, be sure to understand everything the user needs. In fact, I would encourage to backup the full user profile, which would obviously include personal documents, everything under the desktop folder, etc. In addition, be sure to understand external devices such as media players, cameras, etc., as well as their settings on the computer.
A wise man once said: "Sh*t happens", and he was spot on, so you better be prepared to roll up your sleeve and do some troubleshooting. Users will quickly think Linux is not worth it if not even the "expert" that is introducing them to it can work around problems.
Just knowing a bit about the user's Windows instance should already provide good hints on the areas that could present problems. As always, booting from a liveCD is more than recommendable and should highlight areas of potential risk.
If possible, do a bit of reasearch before the migration takes place. For example, if the user owns a specific photo camera model, it is often simple to find if such model is supported in Linux, as well as maybe how to work around problems that may be specific to it.
It is usually the case that many troubleshooting tips are intensive on the terminal. It is also true that many of those tips can be carried out using GUI applications and wizards. This approach may be a bit boring for experts, but will surely be less intimidating for the person that is being introduced to Linux, so I would recommend using it.
Being passionate about Linux should not get in the way of accepting its shortcomings or potential errors in the migration process. Blaming any problems on the lack of experience of the end user is the most common excuse, but it should really be the last one.
Being humble, critical about Linux's weaknesses and your own is always better than being arrogant and self complacent. In fact, such approach will surely make the user more confortable and understanding, more willing to stick with Linux even if not everything goes absolutely perfect right off the bat.
On a different note, as the introducer, get the most out of the experience, because there will surely be things you can learn from. Make sure you understand what to repeat and what to avoid when facing similar situations.
Linux is all about its community. Therefore, it is always good news when new users join and start adding their two cents. Donations, translations, help in bug fixing, documenting, coding... You name it, it's all needed and welcome.
Bringing new users onboard and becoming a Linux "evangelist" is clearly an important thing, but it is even more important to do a good job at it. One happy user will maybe bring another one, but frustrated users make lots of negative noise, effectively defeating the purpose of trying to bring them in in the first place. By carefully managing the migration process, we will dramatically increase chances of bringing users in and keeping them in, which is the mission objective, after all.
Hope this helps and thanks for reading!
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- AnonymousAugust 24, 2010 at 4:45 PM
Very well said.ReplyDelete
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Chema, I have to say that I REALLY enjoyed this article. The only counter comment that I can make is that in my opinion one should never become a Linux evangelist, but it took me a lot of years being a Linux evangelist to learn that lesson. ;DReplyDelete
@FEWT: Glad that you enjoyed reading it!
I think I know where you are going with that "one should never become a Linux evangelist", but for the benefit of everybody, can you elaborate and explain what kind of experiences led you to that conclusion?
@Chema: Its just that I have (or had) convinced / converted a lot of people to try out Linux and in nearly every single case those users are now back on Windows for their desktops. There are a multitude of reasons why, bad drivers; unstable software; compatibility problems; upgrades trashing machines and on and on and on. Also, there is a huge amount of responsibility that comes with converting users, if you convert them they can't just pick up their machine and take it to the local PC repair shop. This means that you the person that converted them are on the hook to support them. You can't just tell them to go look in forums and file bug reports either, users don't want or care for any of that and it will just frustrate them, and ultimately it will frustrate you too because you sold them on the idea that it would work and when it doesn't it hurts your credibility.ReplyDelete
Over the years I have just learned that it is absolutely irresponsible to talk people into converting to Linux that otherwise wouldn't care. These folks just want to use their computers, so I say to just let them use their computers the way that works for them. :D
The easiest way to move someone to GNU/Linux is to let Windows do its thing and stop being an inhouse Windows technician. It does not take long for any Windows machine to become an unusable pile of malware. Stop fixing it. Let your friends get a good look at big bills for trivial stuff at Big Box stores. Right now, XP users are faced with some very uncomfortable computing. It's obviously ugly, breaks quickly and Microsoft is doing everything it can to kill it. Worse for the user, Vista/Windows 7 is an even more radical interface change than a move to GNU/Linux. It is funny that you mention iTunes as a barrier because that is often broken on Vista and Windows 7. Microsoft's technical sabotage and upgrade treadmill is tiresome to everyone. Face it, the reason you moved to GNU/Linux yourself is because it requires less effort for what you get. If you just let Windows fail and quit fixing it, your friends will move to GNU/Linux with you. The time you save can be more productively spent learning how to make things work for you, like iTunes/iPod work with GNU/Linux. Just say, "I don't do Windows," and start enjoying life!ReplyDelete
You are right to be honest about shortcomings but you need to keep them in perspective. There are good replacements for iTunes like Amarok and Rhythmbox. These might not work with iPod and there's not much to be done about that. It sucks that Apple made such a hostile piece of hardware. You can replace Apple's firmware with Rockbox on some iPod models but it is probably better to just give up on Apple because the gadget is such a trivial thing. Perspective is quickly gained when your friend's Windows computer crashes and burns again and they have to take it to a store to get it fixed.
@FEWT: Thanks for that, I agree with most of it. I think one needs to be careful before talking anybody into using Linux. I have learnt that it usually works pretty well with people that have a technical interest (even if they are not experts), because they can appreciate the freedom and flexibility inherent to Linux, while quickly picking up the few tricks required to do standard desktop tasks. Users that don't care about computers are better off within a very controlled environment, such as Windows or Mac.ReplyDelete
All in all, my experience is not that negative so far, but only because I learnt to appreciate the people who could enjoy Linux and get something out of it.
@anonymous: I think that it is not smart to disguise Windows XP or Windows 7 as unstable products, mainly because it is simply false and hurts the Linux community credibility. We should respect other products out there and strive to improve until we get to where they are on every level.
You say "the gadget is such a trivial thing", and that is exactly what I talk about in my article, the kind of stuff that comes from you, not the end user. For some people, their shiny iPod is all that matters, and for them, Windows or Mac is the right way to go.
On the other hand, there is one thing that is 100% clear to me: There is a certain user profile that maybe does not fit in the Linux scheme yet, but just 5 years ago that profile was a lot broader. In other words, the Linux desktop evolution is undeniable, and as it gets better and better, there will be less and less reasons to stick to something else. That's the sweet part and the main reason why I keep speaking the word!
- AnonymousAugust 25, 2010 at 10:24 AM
First used Linux with PCLinuxOS2007 which just worked out of the box (back in those days wifi was still hit and miss) and after changing all our computers to Linux have managed in the past 2 years to also add more than a dozen family members: parents, inlaws, aunts, etc to the Linux family. The reasons were quite simple: my free tech support to family was taking too much of my time, most of it malware related.ReplyDelete
I did the convincing hands on when i bought a 2nd hand laptop and let people try it.
Whenever they would call me for help, I would lend them the laptop and install all their thingw like own bookmarks (through Foxmarks)and Gmail/Yahoo notifications, IM contacts and Skype as well to make it feel like theirs.
Most of them were all using FF3, openoffice, VLC on windows, so switching them to Linux wasnt a big shock to most. Skype was also available and whether you used ICQ, yahoo, MSN or othters, Kopete wasnt hard to figure (a big plus was it was the only Linux IM that had working video for Yahoo IM) and Amarok wasnt far off from Winamp.
I think this familiarity with free software on the Windows side made the switch easier.
Oh yeah, the ones who still used POP3 email were weened off Outlook and on to Thunderbird a long time ago and they to went on as usual.
My dad asked me a few months after he switched why we hadnt done this sooner. (I kept trying Linux over the years and until about 2007-2008, the desktop just wasnt ready for mom and pop)
I dont believe in skinning Linux to look like XP, I made this clear to people, this wasnt XP.
But I do think that the use of the KDE environment made the transition easier.
In my small sample, I didnt find any Windows user that preferred GNOME over KDE (I used XCFE on older hardware) and after a while I just even bother (especially to older family members for whom it might have been too much).
Gnome looks to foreign (a copy of mac is what EVERY non-Linux user tells me when they see it for the first time) to Windows users. The top panel with the constant text (most people probably dont know that you could drag the panel where you wanted in XP), the fonts, the GTK look and feel (it took me a long time to understand what they meant by "it looks and feels funny", it just felt too different.
Dont believe me?
Put KDE and GNOME on a computer, then ask a Windows using friend to tell them which they prefer.
KDE looks familiar to Windows users and even though I dont think skinning an imitation theme is a good idea, familiarity does help. Some people need it more than others.
Right now I have 6 retired people using Mandriva or PCLinuxOS with KDE4.5.
Their computer skills vary from 15 years experience on Windows to using a computer for the first time on Linux last year.
And teaching someone to use Linux is no harder than XP (sorry, I jumped off the ship at Vista so thats my last reference point).
Linux has been ready for mom and pops for some time now, anyone who claims otherwise can contact my 75yr and older parents and inlaws (maybe they can help!!).
Hey, ask your parents to call a friend of mine and explain to him how to install Maya or 3D Studio (he needs that for work, and no, Blender does not do), or perhaps Starcraft 2 (among hundreds of other recent games that simply don't work on Linux).ReplyDelete
Again, let's not close our eyes to the pending issues out there. Linux has many strengths and can beat Windows or Mac on some categories, but not all of them. Denying that fact does not really help and can only result in frustration later down the line.
Chema, love your blog, and even more so, your objective clear-sighted attitude toward Linux. Keep up the excellent writing.ReplyDelete
Just wanted to chime in... I am a brand-new Linux user. Tired of Windows being an anchor on my machines, I discovered Ubuntu 10.04 LTS. Initially, I tried it out using Wubi on a Compaq Presario laptop w/ Celeron processor and Windows Vista Basic. The machine was pretty much worthless with Windows on it. When Ubuntu booted up... SPEED! I found the GUI very easy to understand with only minor differences from Windows (and the location of the Close, Minimize, Maximize in the upper-left were NOT an issue).ReplyDelete
I mostly use my computers for email and web browsing. Rarely do I used proprietary software, so this is not MUCH of an issue for me. Google Docs and OpenOffice have come a long way, so if I need an office suite, I will be fine.
I now run Ubuntu as the ONLY operating system on this machine and have absolutely no regrets so far. The ONLY issue I have had has been getting a good copy of the ISO burned and this appears to have been due to a crappy supply of CDRs. Switching to a better CDRw solved that issue.
My next plans are to install Ubuntu as a dual-boot on my other laptop... another Compaq Presario but with an AMD dual core processor and Vista Premium... followed by a dual-boot install on an older Compaq desktop with an AMD dual core processor and Windows XP.
I think for non-techies, Linux is currently an optimal choice for people who mostly read email and websurf. It seems from reading blogs that the real issue comes into play when you use proprietary software, are a hardcore gamer or just don't want to be bothered Googling to overcome an issue you are having with your OS.
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"When it comes to a derby I think it was a good result - Chelsea are not an easy team to beat, they have excellent players," he said.
"I congratulate our squad for their fight and now we need to work hard to carry on winning.
"We need to qualify for next year's Champions League. We need to finish well and carry on next year to compete for the title.
"This is a big club and deserves better. All we want are trophies."Copyright 2017 The Arsenal Football Club plc. Permission to use quotations from this article is granted subject to appropriate credit being given to www.arsenal.com as the source


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Springfield, OH--Communication and Business Leadership Experience (C.A.B.L.E.) is an educational opportunity for a select team of Wittenberg University students studying in the fields of Communication and Business. These 11 individuals were selected because of their exemplary leadership experience, potential for growth, excellent problem solving skills, and involvement in diverse campus activities. The program bridges the gap between the classroom experience and the professional world. Ventures such as case studies, business research methodology, alumni relations, project endowment and career development contribute to the rigor of this program.
The C.A.B.L.E. team started their experience in January, meeting weekly with the faculty advisors and independently for project development. The classroom component of the program helps students begin to learn some basic business and communication knowledge, such as organizational culture, effective interviewing, and entrepreneurship. The group also learned about their personality profiles and preferred work styles through the Myers-Briggs test. Additionally, they created resumes and had them critiqued by the group's advisors, Dr. Matthew J. Smith and Dr. Wendy C. Gradwohl. Regina Gasser, a current C.A.B.L.E. member, is enjoying her experience in this program. "These classroom sessions take all of the knowledge necessary for growth and development as a business professional and condense it into small but effective chunks. I leave class feeling like I am one step closer to my professional career."
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Sulfamethoxazole/trimethoprim is an antibacterial prescription combination medicine approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) to treat certain infections, such as:
Sulfamethoxazole/trimethoprim is also FDA-approved to prevent PCP in people who are immunosuppressed and are at risk of developing PCP.
Shigellosis and PCP are opportunistic infections. An opportunistic infection is an infection that occurs more frequently or is more severe in people with weakened immune systems -- such as those infected with HIV -- than in people with healthy immune systems.
Sulfamethoxazole/trimethoprim can also be used "off-label" to prevent and treat other opportunistic infections of HIV infection. "Off-label" use refers to use of an FDA-approved medicine in a manner different from that described on the medicine label. Good medical practice and the best interests of a patient sometimes require that a medicine be used "off-label."
What HIV-related opportunistic infections is sulfamethoxazole/trimethoprim used for?
The Guidelines for Prevention and Treatment of Opportunistic Infections in HIV-Infected Adults and Adolescents, prepared by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), includes recommendations on the HIV-related uses of sulfamethoxazole/trimethoprim to:
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mechanical wave that is an oscillation of pressure transmitted through a solid, liquid, or gas, composed of frequencies within the range of hearing
Sound is the vibration of matter, as perceived by the sense of hearing. Unwanted or annoying sound is often called noise.
- Carpenters' and ironworkers' shops are dominated by the heavier sounds of machinery and occasional yells across the floor; in goldsmiths' shops the silences are punctuated by more delicate work noises, but the apprentices' sullen silence and the artisans' grim absorption in the work at hand are, if anything, more oppressive, although there may be a little amiable banter between a master goldsmith and an older apprentice clearly already in possession of advanced technical skills.
- Michael Herzfeld (2004). The Body Impolitic: Artisans and Artifice in the Global Hierarchy of Value. University of Chicago Press. p. 81. ISBN 978-0-226-32914-7.
- Which is more musical, a truck passing by a factory or a truck passing by a music school?
- John Cage, "Communication", the third of the Composition as a Process lectures given in Darmstadt in 1958 and published in Silence. Many of Cage's works use sounds traditionally regarded as unmusical (radios not tuned to any particular station, for instance): he really did believe that the sound of a truck and the sounds made in a factory had just as much musical worth as the sounds made in a music school. There is also a suggestion expressed in the quote that in order to determine the artistic worth of something, it is necessary to examine the context in which it exists.
- A sound does not view itself as thought, as ought, as needing another sound for its elucidation, as etc.; it has not time for any consideration--it is occupied with the performance of its characteristics: before it has died away it must have made perfectly exact its frequency, its loudness, its length, its overtone structure, the precise morphology of these and of itself.
- John Cage (1955), quoted in Classic Essays on Twentieth-Century Music, ISBN 0028645812.
- Master: It's everywhere. Listen, listen, listen. Here come the drums. Here come the drums.
- Doctor Who The Sound of Drums written by Russell T. Davies
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- Eduard Hanslick, quoted by Wolfgang Sandberger (1996) in the liner notes to the Juilliard String Quartet's Intimate Letters. Sony Classical SK 66840.
- You know the sound of two hands clapping; tell me, what is the sound of one hand?
- Hakuin Ekaku (1686-1769). The phrase is a Kōan, an irrational comment used in Zen Buddhism in order to assist practitioners in reaching enlightenment.
- His feet were like fine copper when glowing in a furnace; and his voice was as the sound of many waters.
- They say gravity is the centre of attraction ; I rather think that noise is. Nothing so soon assembles the inhabitants of a house as a loud and sudden noise:
- Letitia Elizabeth Landon, The Book of Beauty, 1833 (1832), 'The Talisman'
- Whenever you wash dishes, cook, or clean, if you make no sound, this is smartness itself. A person who enters a house and makes a lot of noise is revealing a lack of spirituality; even cats and dogs do not make unnecessary sounds, and man as he naturally is does not make any either.
- Michio Kushi (1926), Spiritual Journey (1994), p. 4.
- Doctor: It plays music. What's the point of that? Oh, with music, you can dance to it, sing with it, fall in love to it. Unless you're a Dalek of course. Then it's all just noise.
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- Could we not imagine that noise...is itself nothing more than the sum of a multitude of different sounds which are being heard simultaneously?
- Jean-Jacques Rousseau, Dictionnaire de Musique (1767).
- If a tree falls in a forest, and no-one is around to hear it, does it make a noise?
- Source unknown, but apparently originating in the twentieth century; a 1910 physics book asks "When a tree falls in a lonely forest, and no animal is near by to hear it, does it make a sound? Why?" Charles Riborg Mann, George Ransom Twiss, Physics (1910), p. 235. See also: If a tree falls in a forest.
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- Quotes reported in Hoyt's New Cyclopedia Of Practical Quotations (1922), p. 740.
- A thousand trills and quivering sounds
In airy circles o'er us fly,
Till, wafted by a gentle breeze,
They faint and languish by degrees,
And at a distance die.
- Joseph Addison, An Ode for St. Cecilia's Day, VI.
- A noise like of a hidden brook
In the leafy month of June,
That to the sleeping woods all night
Singeth a quiet tune.
- Samuel Taylor Coleridge, The Rime of the Ancient Mariner (1798; 1817), Part V, Stanza 18.
- By magic numbers and persuasive sound.
- William Congreve, Mourning Bride, Act I, scene 1.
- I hear a sound so fine there's nothing lives
'Twixt it and silence.
- James Sheridan Knowles, Virginius, Act V, scene 2.
- Parent of sweetest sounds, yet mute forever.
- Thomas Babington Macaulay, 1st Baron Macaulay, Enigma. "Cut off my head, etc." Last line.
- And filled the air with barbarous dissonance.
- John Milton, Comus (1637), line 550.
- Sonorous metal blowing martial sounds,
At which the universal host up sent
A shout that tore hell's concave, and beyond
Frighted the reign of Chaos and old Night.
- John Milton, Paradise Lost (1667; 1674), Book I, line 540.
- Their rising all at once was as the sound
Of thunder heard remote.
- John Milton, Paradise Lost (1667; 1674), Book II, line 476.
- To all proportioned terms he must dispense
And make the sound a picture of the sense.
- Christopher Pitt, translation of Vida's Art of Poetry.
- The murmur that springs
From the growing of grass.
- Edgar Allen Poe, Al Aaraaf, Part II, line 124.
- The sound must seem an echo to the sense.
- Alexander Pope, An Essay on Criticism (1709), line 365.
- The empty vessel makes the greatest sound.
- William Shakespeare, Henry V (c. 1599), Act IV, scene 4, line 73.
- What's the business,
That such a hideous trumpet calls to parley
The sleepers of the house? Speak, speak!
- William Shakespeare, Macbeth (1605), Act II, scene 3, line 86.
- Hark! from the tombs a doleful sound.
- Isaac Watts, Hymns and Spiritual Songs, Book II. Hymn 63.
- My eyes are dim with childish tears,
My heart is idly stirred,
For the same sound is in my ears
Which in those days I heard.
- William Wordsworth, The Fountain.


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Mount Audubon Climber's Log
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|Route Climbed: Audubon trail Date Climbed: March 2004
|Fun winter climb
|Posted Aug 10, 2004 2:52 pm
|Route Climbed: Mt Audubon Trail Date Climbed: Sunday July 18,2004
|Started up at 7:50AM reached summit at 9:30, 4 people on top, Perfect weather, Spectacular views in all directions, beautiful wildflowers. Stayed 20 mins, back down to trailhead by 11:30, lots of people coming up. Great morning! My first alpine summit, sweet!!
|Posted Jul 21, 2004 2:16 pm
|Route Climbed: Southeast Ridge Date Climbed: 4/2/2004
|Good times!!
|Posted Jul 20, 2004 4:58 pm
|Route Climbed: South East Ridge Date Climbed: July 10, 2004
|Very fun class 3 ridge climb. Beautiful area!
|Posted Jul 12, 2004 9:54 am
|Route Climbed: Class 3 in Roaches book Date Climbed: 7/31/03
|Good climb
|Posted Apr 14, 2004 6:33 pm
|Route Climbed: Mt. Audubon Trail Date Climbed: July 10, 1995
|What a great hike. Camped on the mountainside in a snow bank. Great Views.
|Posted Apr 13, 2004 1:53 pm
|Route Climbed: Mount Audubon Trail Date Climbed: July 4, 2001
|My first alpine summit! It hurt, but we had been hiking in the Flatirons in previous weeks, so we were somewhat prepared.... I look back at pictures and wince at the clothes I was wearing! Ouch!
|Posted Apr 8, 2004 1:40 pm
|Route Climbed: Blue Lake Loop Date Climbed: August, 2002
|Climbed this mountain with the Boulder Mountain Club. They paced too slow for my taste. Bunch of slackers! At least there is class 2 stuff towards the summit. I liked the prayer flags at the top, giving it a nice Himalayan feel.
|Posted Mar 25, 2004 10:14 pm
|Route Climbed: normal Date Climbed: February, 2002
|Very cold two night solo camping trip.
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I had a few days free, and for some reason chose to spend them freezing my butt off alone in the snow... I took three days and two nights to summit Mt. Audubon(13,224 ft) alone. The trip was great, except I forgot to bring sunscreen and my sleeping pad. I had to use branches from nearby trees for insulation!
The climb itself went well. I started out early, hoping for the good weather to hold. Although it was extremely windy, I managed to make the summit by noon. At the summit, I was sure I was about to be blown off the mountain. Seven hours later, I returned to camp for a much needed nap.
|Posted Mar 19, 2004 11:40 pm
|Route Climbed: Standard Date Climbed: August 2003
|Nice hike, pretty mountain.
|Posted Feb 12, 2004 3:58 am
|Route Climbed: Blue Lake Loop Date Climbed: Oct 8, 2003
|Great warm up climb for a fourteener. This hike gave me a good scouting report on the iced up south slopes of Long's Peak.
|Posted Jan 29, 2004 1:52 am
|Route Climbed: Southeast Ridge Date Climbed: June 2002
|A good short day hike.
|Posted Dec 3, 2003 6:47 pm
|Route Climbed: East Face Date Climbed: July 14, 2002
|A nice summit. Combined well with Paiute Peak. My dog Sopris was along with me on this traverse.
I had previously attemted Mount Audubon in Febuary of 2001. I got caught in a little blizzard on that try and turned around some 300 feet feom the summit (above the head of the eastern cirque).
Jon Bradford
|Posted Nov 5, 2003 11:51 pm
|Route Climbed: Standard Route Date Climbed: Sept 2nd, 2002
|Really nice day hike with fantastic views of the surrounding peaks. The mountain by itself doesn't have much going for it but the views around it are incredible.
Be prepared for wind on this peak. There must have a steady 30mph wind going when I got to the summit and it seems like every time I'm in the area the wind is blowing hard.
|Posted Oct 5, 2003 8:32 pm
|Jim Clarke
|Route Climbed: Standard Date Climbed: July 19 2001
|Fun day hike or even better early season ski tour.
|Posted Oct 2, 2003 10:19 am
|Route Climbed: Southeast Ridge Date Climbed: September 19, 2003
|After 14er bagging the last two days I decided to stay close to home and take it easy. I found this ridge to be lots of fun despite it's short length. I didn't see anyone else and the ridge offered unsurpassed views of the surrounding peaks. The class 3 sections were very fun and straightforward despite the snow. Highly recommended for new climbers wanting to get off the hiking trails.
|Posted Sep 19, 2003 6:15 pm
|Route Climbed: Brainard, also traverse from Pawnee Date Climbed: July, 1983 for the first time
|As noted, this is a great, easy peak for a hike. It can be attempted any time of year, but be prepared for wind any time of year! I've been up it a half dozen times or so, and been driven back by winter winds more than once.
Highly recommended for a longer outing is to climb Paiute Peak from Blue Lake, then traverse over to Audobon. This has you descending a known and easy trail during the afternoon storm hours. The traverse is a Roach *classic*.
|Posted Sep 5, 2003 12:40 am
|Route Climbed: Brainard Lake Date Climbed: August 7, 2002
|Made it to the ridge just below the summit. The views of indianpeaks and Longs peak were amazing.
|Posted Sep 3, 2003 9:15 am
|Route Climbed: Southeast Ridge, descent via Mount Audubon Trail Date Climbed: August 13, 2003 & July 18, 2004
|July 2004:
Looks like I followed in Aaron's footsteps. Erin wanted to experience the SE Ridge for herself, so I made my second climb of this fun route. Next, we traversed to Paiute, and then climbed Mount Toll before descending to Blue Lakes.
This route, described in Roach's IPW book, puts you in a spectacular position alongside Audubon's bowl. A trip report is available here.
|Posted Aug 19, 2003 12:02 am
|Route Climbed: Southern snow couloir Date Climbed: 21 November 2002
|Decided I wanted to play with my ice tools, so headed out thinking I'd attempt Toll's North Face. It was getting late, so I hung a right and headed up one of the couloirs of Audubon's south scoop. Ended up with an epic descent in the dark, but a great time on some snow and steep rock. This would not be a good summer route b/c of loose rock.
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A friend went to a weekend long Mal trial and both of her dogs got sick with a flu bug. One was a pup, he was pretty bad off before he started his recovery(IV and overnight vet stay 2x's).
I never let my dogs drink from sources other dogs are using at events. If I had pups on the ground or was soon to whelp a litter, I'd take extreme precautions so I wouldn't track home any 'bugs'.
For those of us that do minimal vaccines, or don't use flea preventative(dogs don't have flea's) even going to such a place may be a risk bringing home those too.
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|It's unlikely that with all the dogs at the Premier each year there never one that has been exposed. This is just the first time someone has thought to mention it to the event committee. Any time I attend an event with hundreds (thousands?) of dogs and exhibitors I take into account that my dogs are being exposed to many things and am careful if I intend to go visit puppies or any place that might have immunocompromised dogs soon after. The message is good to know for people that brought baby puppies to the event or are going back home to puppies, but anyone who has their dogs vaccinated or titred should not freak out like everyone is on Facebook. There were no dogs *with* parvo actually at the event.
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im confused. how is that exactly like the screen used scope? the fronts wrong (back on ESB)
man oh man, why do i always have to keep repeating myself!? the same japanese manufacturer made scopes with a.s.i. and webley printed on them. here is the proof as that 4x15 webley came with the a.s.i. box so instead of having to look for an 4x20 a.s.i. one can also search for an 4x20 webley. as they are the same thing. or as far as the 4x15 is concerned everything is the same except the tube. got it now!? so switch out the 4x15 tube with that of a 4x20, and you have a matching screen used scope.
and as far as the pic above is concerned, i never said it is exactly like the screen used scope, as the picture clearly shows a 4x15 scope.
Cool... Great work as always V.:thumbsup
ok thanks for the explination buddy. might wanna take a chill pill though.
This is mine... :D
Rock 'n roll Mojo! I got the same one too :D Also with a tipoff by Volker! I had previously gotten a 4x20 that I thought was pretty close, but had a dumb detail on the rings that I couldn't see from the photo. That tube with these rings, etc. and I'm good to go! Thanks again good buddy! ;)
im sorry but untill we see a 4x20 webley they arnt "Confirmed" to be the same. at best you might be able to strip it for parts ( your still tossing over half that scope).from what ive been told from a very reliable source it seems a Webley 4x20 does not even have the correct eye piece. also, have you taken the "correct" parts and measured them in comparison to a A.S.I. scope? because they might be like say the Nikko Stirling scope where things like the rings & such are slightly too small or big to be identical, a good stand in, but not correct
oh & sorry if i have you repeat your self again.
This is old news, there was all kinds of scopes made in the same factory as the ASI, NONE of them are confirmed as being 100% the same as the ASi, but some of the parts are the same..... and yeah, take a chill pill
What's to say whoever sold the scope didn't just put it in a ASI box? People recard figures all of the time. Just saying.... :fettrotj
Got my Webley 4x15 yesterday! Without a doubt, the rings are identical. They're not the taller, fatter ones of the Nikko Stirling. I have not however put them side by side with ASI rings, naturally, becuase I do not have them. Keep in mind folks, before you jump all over V, that the ASI even has not been confirmed as the "hero" piece either. It's just been matched up as the "best fit" to date.
I am not sure what the issue is here... As I think I stated recently and as SaxeCoburg pointed out in this very thread, we have always suspected that there were more companies than simply ASI under which the Fett scope was marketed. While I am not sure I would say "confirmed" since no one has found a webley 4X20 yet, everything volkerc has presented would certainly lead one to believe that webley is indeed another brand under which the scope was marketed. For me the shape and details of the 4X15 scope make me believe that the 4X20 would be a match more than the fact that a webley scope came in an ASI box. Just my thoughts.
No Issue Art! :D I take it as extra "ammo" for people looking to find an accurate scope for their rifle. Extra option as to how to get the right look. Since even the best suit, with all the "right" parts, is still a replica, I think the aim of most people, in term of accuracy, is to have the most accurate "look" to all the parts. At least that's what I'm shooting for! (No pun intended :lol )
I've seen a few Webley 4x20's over the years and they haven't been a match.
There are also variations in ASI's so not all of them are correct either.
There are a few other companies with matching pieces here and there too. Nothing confirmed until a complete identical scope is found.
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Five Golden Griffins reached base three times in the game, with junior Jose Torralba and senior Christian Segar each posting two hits on the day. Senior Chris Gruarin had a single and two walks, sophomore Connor Panas had a walk, single and hit by pitch and senior Manny Hernandez was hit by a pitch twice and walked. Six Golden Griffins scored a run for Canisius with four of the six Canisius runs scored being unearned.
After the Mountaineers got on the board in the top of the first, the Griffs took their only lead of the day with two runs in the top of the second. Junior Jimmy Luppens led off with a single and moved to second after Torralba was hit by a pitch with one out. Hernandez reached on an error by Appalachian State, which allowed Luppens to score an unearned run on the play. With runners at the corners and one out, Hernandez would be picked off first base for the second out of the inning. Sophomore Mike Booth scored Torralba with a single through the left side to give the Griffs a 2-1 lead.
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Artiste Royal's opponents Friday include Vega's Lord, who ran second (beaten a nose by Chinese Dragon) in the 2007 San Francisco Mile on the Golden Gate Fields turf, and Matto Mondo, a multiple Grade 1 winner in his native Chile. Like Artiste Royal, Vega's Lord is trained by Drysdale.
The field for the third race, the co-feature Friday, is as follows: Yacht Spotter, Alex Bisono rides at 119 pounds, 6-to-1; Artiste Royal, Russell Baze, 119, 6-to-5; Saratoga's Magic, Roberto Gonzalez, 123, 8-to-1; Matto Mondo, Kyle Kaenel, 119, 10-to-1; Vega's Lord, Brice Blanc, 119, 5-to-2; Starcast, Frank Alvarado, 119, 10-to-1; and Cover Magic, Adan Landeros, 119, 15-to-1.
Friday's seventh race, a $39,000 allowance event for fillies and mares, will be decided at one mile on the turf. Heading a field of eight is Victorina, a 5-year-old mare who has been victorious in 12 of her 22 career starts.
Victorina, a multiple stakes-winner trained by Greg Gilchrist, is coming off an impressive victory in the one-mile Marina Stakes on Oct. 26 at Golden Gate Fields. The Marina was run on the track's synthetic Tapeta racing surface and Victorina defeated Unspoken Word by three-quarters of a length in 1:37.32.
Victorina was scheduled to race coupled with stablemate Wild Promises in Friday's co-feature, however, Gilchrist scratched Wild Promises Thursday morning.
Firetrail, winner of the King County Handicap at Emerald Downs, and In My Glory, who finished second to Wild Promises in the Miss America Stakes at Golden Gate Fields, are among the fillies looking to upset Victorina.
The field for Friday's seventh race is as follows: Millestan, Blanc rides at 119 pounds, 7-to-2; Firetrail, Bisono, 119, 12-to-1; In My Glory, Luis Martinez, 121, 3-to-1; Nottingham Forest, Alvarado, 119, 6-to-1; Wavy Lass, Juan Ochoa, 121, 12-to-1; Victorina, William Antongeorgi, III, 121, 5-to-2; Gadget Queen, Leslie Mawing, 121, 10-to-1; and She's Sensational, Kaenel, 119, 10-to-1.
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This is going to be beautiful The detail is just awe inspiring! Really excited to see this bucket painted up
This is going to be beautiful The detail is just awe inspiring! Really excited to see this bucket painted up
Anything new with this Peter? I'd love to see the completed helmet.
Amazing work.
I'd love to see this in Essen.....!
Lovely. Great attention to detail. Looks very authentic.
Can't wait to see more pics...
I have enjoyed watching this bucket come together from the conception. Cannot wait to see the final completed suit.
Just Incredible skills brotha!! Love all the details
RF screen is amazing, does it / will it light up?
Any updates? I want to see more. :-)
what the......... that is AMAZING!!!!!
Oh my goodness, i'm at a loss of words right now....when will you have some updates for us......... I'd love to see this completed to the end.
CEII is coming, so I need to speed up work on your costume.
New toys:
- Received from the engraving: parts for the "Comlink" panel for the left gauntlet, which will be integrated with touchscreen smartphone ; parts for "diamond" in the middle of the chest ( but much bigger than BF). I was inspired by chest of Darth Malgus.
- Received from CNC cutter aluminum components. These are the two buckles that I designed myself to harness ; metal collar that will be attached into a helmet. As do the high altitude pilots in their pressure suits
Absolutely incredible !!!!!!
That looks amazing. I especially like the range finder details. Very nicely done.
Good thing I signed up for one when the list was open. Can't wait.
There was a list??????????? Awww man.
No problem.
I'm able to make some RF's in this way but not earlier than the end of august. Now I must make prototype of jetpack, silicone molds, cast it, paint it (for my friend, who wants to wear it on CEII) and of course I must finish my costume of pilot till CEII. So...Now I must hurry up !! .
If I'll have enough time, I'll prepare some mando helmets and RF's and bring them for You to CEII. Just remind me by PM at half of June. OK ?
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Ah, I see. No problem!
(I would love to have one of those helmets though!)
Superjedi - If You want to have it just info me by PM or by mail (firstname.lastname@example.com). I have one helmet from the last run . Next run (approx 10-15 pieces) will be at september (I'll have also new molds of dented version of helmet and optional ear panels: the same "left-like" and the same "right-like" for both sides)
Some new photos of progress of some parts:
- ab panel in the rough
- Left gauntlet in the rough and first attempt to install "computer" (Xperia X8). All texts are engraved in mandoa alphabet . My gauntlets are made much shorter than other because I want to integrate them with ring adapters for connecting gloves like space shuttle astronauts have .
- Some components for the construction of the backpack. Central tank is the same like side tank of Z-6 jetpack (canonic part of backpack )
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Wow! I know I keep saying that. But Wow! Did you finish your helmet?
Your attention to detail is impressive indeed!
Very impressive talent and skill. I am watching with great anticipation.. and humility!
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I think I can say that most of us are ready to see more of your work on this project. You have to post some new photo's.
It was also premiere of my mandalorian pilot.
Some (best in my opinion) pictures.
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Wow, I don't know what else to say. That is now tied for first as my favorite custom suit. Fantastic job.


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Think short term until the economy recovers and he could build downtown
Now we're talking!
Who can tell when economy recovers? Look at Japan and the lost decade. Not sure he's willing to wait that long.
Very excited to think about capp spayce.....heard the Wizards might be interested in Hamilton..let's dump him....the Blazers have a couple of expiring contracts....let's dump everybody...You know you want some Piston players Mark Cuban Capp Spayce will make it to the Eastern Conferecnce Finals in '10...guarantee it
If Keith Van Horne still has an expiring contract...let's go after him too!
That would be a brilliant move...only Joe can pull something like that...Were praying Joe...make it work..we want more cap space
If the economy shows little sign of recovering...he can just stay at the Palace. Seems like the perfect hedge against the unknown.
Christ, why did i decide to come here today? Joe has realized who our new franchise player is; Capspace, and he's going to surround him with role players named capspace1,capspace2, capspace3,etc. Capspace for MVP!!
You know you want some, Mark Cuban!!!
But Palace sucks for hockey, that's the problem. Wings have some of the best hockey fans in the nation, and rewarding them with a bad rink is not the way to go.
I don't think primary concern is about rewarding fans in this economy. The Wings had available tickets throughout this past season after winning in 08. I watched many Piston games at the Silverdome...arguably one of the worst pro basketball venues ever. The Palace is much more accommodating for hockey.
It sure is. It's just that Red Wings are not necessarily being completely run as a business that is there to just make money.
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Remember, please keep our sidewalks clear and if you see obstructions, please call 311.
Watch the Sidewalk Safety campaign video produced by the GOV Channel
The City of Charlotte asks all residents to remember to keep all sidewalks safe and clear of obstructions such as yard waste, garbage and recycling carts, parked vehicles and other items that may impede their use.
While sidewalks obstructions may seem like a minor nuisance, they can pose a major danger for pedestrians, cyclists, runners and the disabled.
For guidance on what you can do to keep our sidewalks clear as well as for more on pedestrian safety tips visit the following areas: