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Discussion in 'Great Skate Debate' started by Sugar, Oct 7, 2012.
Did Chan even fall 4 times last season or his fall counts are accumulative?
So a fully rotated quad with a fall shouldn't score more that a properly landed double toe? Is that what you're saying?
It used to be different, but then all the guys stopped trying quads because it wasn't worth the risk.
So people (Most vocally Plushenko) complained how the sport was going backwards and no-one should win without a quad.
So they changed the rules to encourage the skaters to take the risk.
Now there's complaints again like yours that the rules should be tougher.
Round and round the mulberry bush we go.
In which case, Chan would always lose.
No, when he falls he often beats skaters who were better or stayed on their feet. Which is wrong. Skate Canada 2010 anybody? No way should he have even come top 5 with those performances. And yet he won.
But he still fell, which is the worst outcome for a jump, far worse than UR.
Judges rewarding him for having great skating skill, great choreo, great transitions in and out of the jumps, great speed, commanding the ice, the flows...
Dai was a very popular skater. Fans boo because their fave didn't win. And it's very typical and childish act. Cry foul when their fave didn't win.
Apparently only you think so.
The scoring system, created by coaches/tech specialists apparently think UR is worse than a fall on a fully-rotated jump. But what do they know?
Skate Canada 2011, I remember it because I was in the audience. He wasn't great, he had 2 falls, but he won by 4-5(?) points, because Dai and Fernendez also made many mistakes. But to the Chan haters, Chan still won with many mistakes, without admitting that OTHERS also made mistakes.
A fully rotated fall is better an UR jump.
No, that's not what I'm saying. 2T /=/ 4T. But 4T< should be more than 4T fall. Even 4T two-foot should be more than 4T fall.
For a given jump (say, 3F), there should be NO WAY a fall can score better than other alternatives (two-footed, step-out, rotation, UR, etc, anything that means the landing was upright).
It's not like it's the first year that Chan starts with multiple falls. His Free program is very good, and Patrick is expressive in it. If he wanted to work on his artistic side, he is doing it, and quite successfully. I imagine he'll be balancing the new choreo with the jumps as the year progresses, and unease is premature.
There are also other factors, such as difficult entrance, transition in/out of jump. You do know that right?
As Kurt Browning said, most skaters would just skate straight before the quad. Chan's quads always have no, or little preparation before it.
Great skating skill? Any skater at that level has great skating skills. Great choreo? He doesn't even remotely use the music. Great transitions? His programs look cluttered and ridiculous, I'm fairly sure that's not the point of transitions. Great speed? That he can't control.
Chan is not the god of figure skating. The god of figure falling, maybe.
No, the fans booed because they had just seen a clearly inferior performance come out on top. Fans booed because they didn't understand how Chan could fall on his backside and still be called World Champion.
No, Skate Canada 2010, where Chan fell four times across both programs (3 falls in the SP and 1 in the LP IIRC) and still won ahead of a much cleaner Oda and others.
Regardless of mistakes that others made, for him to win that competition was a joke.
According to you, which, thankfully, is incorrect. You can continue repeating yourself and using CAPS to try to turn myth into truth, but it won't change the rules.
You keep saying it's a joke when Chan wins a competition. Learn the rules.
It's painfully clear you hate Chan for some reason. Please move on. Your incessant rambling is getting tiring.
It is obvious based on some posters' past posts (again and again), they will never be happy with whatever outcomes because they just want it THEIR WAY.
If he falls and lose, his falls should be deducted more, if he falls and wins, his falls should be deducted more. Not that marks weren't deducted from his falls ... it's just the outcome weren't what they WANT.
Not what bek thinks they should be judged on.
Still, Performance/Execution has to be the most unfortunate description in the judging system.
All thinks being equal -- i.e., all of the bullet points except the landing result in the same GOE start value and the quality of all of the other elements of the jump are the same -- a 4T< (7.2 base) is worth more than a 4T with fall (6.3), when the fall deduction is included.
All things being equal, a 4T with a two-foot (7.3) is worth more than a 4T two-foot (6.3), when the fall deduction is included.
A jump that is under-rotated has a better chance of having a greater start GOE start value than a jump with a fall, because the under-rotation doesn't have to impact the chance to earn the landing bullet point.
^^^^^Thanks for some detail
Could you explain the 2foot thing again. I'm assuming you mean a 4T 2ft (7.3) is worth more than a 4T 2ft with a fall (6.3)
I meant to write "is worth more than a 4T with a fall (6.3).". Thanks for the correction.
Your welcome
Okay why are his components ridiculous?
Any skater would die to have skating skills like Chan. He is the skater's skater. They are some of the best I have ever seen. Effortlessness, fantastic flow and glide, no friction between the ice and the blade, speed, full use of the blade from heel to toe and he can turn on a dime, along with complexity done at incredible speed.
Because then the only component scores of his that should be high are SS and Transitions. ITA his Choreo/ IN are bland.
Falls disrupt the flow of a program, if there are falls it effects the components. Apparently not for Chan though. That's all misskarne was getting at. And yes, IMO falls should always be -3 (unless the skater lands a very good jump and then just slips at the end, in which case a -2 could be given), while UR and 2fts should be -2.
Although I still think Chan has average musicality (which is made up by his godlike SS & ballet training experience), I think that his PCS at this JO was underscored surprisingly.
In a word, no.
If I understood you correctly, you think Chan should have scored higher on the PCS than he did, right? Well, he actually scored a bit higher than at last year's JO even though he fell 4 times at this Japan Open, didn't have any jump combination in his program at all as opposed to two cleanly landed jump combos last year of which one was a 4T/3T, he doubled the 3F and singled the 2A. All in all, I do think Chan can be happy with the PC score he got considering.
Okay but please try to keep in mind that what's true for some is not true for others. I for one never found Chan bland or boring.
somewhat underscored when compare with other skaters, not last year's result.
<snort> "You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to PeterG again."
and this ..
IMO is what Patrick is going through right now. He is by nature an easy going lad, and he needs to find the intrinsic drive and motivation to want to continue. I don't know his personal circumstances but sometimes in life, we go through phases and bumps where we re-evaluate our priorities given present circumstances.
The logic here appears to be very flawed.
If Brown's 3axel was not UR-ed and all he did was land the jump on 2 feet (i.e. not just having free foot brush the ice), he would probably have -2s or some -3s and would have scored more than Chan did with a fall on a fully rotated 3axel (straight -3s). The 2 footing mistake itself is not more harshly punished than a fall. It's the UR that affected the base value.
If you have a problem with how the current system punishes mistakes, you need to keep in mind that the rules apply uniformly to everyone, not just preferentially to benefit Chan.
From experience, most non falls that get -3s across the board are those that have more than 1 mistake at the same time (i.e. heavy two footed and stepped out, edge call and hand down with weight shift, etc).
The thing about UR is that it fundamentally changes the merit / difficulty (hence value) of the jump and thus cannot be compared with other mistakes. If you would just understand this part, you would realize that a fall on a rotated jump is worth more than a fall on a UR-ed jump, but a hand down or a lesser mistake on a rotated jump is worth more than a fall on the same rotated jump.
Hmm. Perhaps you are not worth a rational discussion afterall.
And I am glad they do because otherwise you will have skaters being forced to rotate "triples" before they are ready. Remember the Olympic Ladies Champion from Salt Lake City?
To me anyways, URs signify bad technique, quality or control much more than falls do. Being able to reduce base values of UR-ed jumps is the single best idea under COP.
Here: http://www.youtube.com/user/germann1968/videos?view=0
This user has the official ISU video explanations about what each program component means.
Compare his PCS from last season to those he got at this competition.
I think many people do not (or refuses to) understand that Chan is just a skater who happens to fit a lot of criteria for PCS and therefore receives high PCS when he skates reasonably well. He gets lower PCS when he makes mistakes (which he should), but overall the PCS is still justifiably quite high when he makes mistakes because his starting level is high.
Forget about Chan. If skater ABC is so out of this world fantastic that he deserves a 10 for each program component, but makes a mistake or two, do you think a 9.5 for each component is still warranted? Or 9.25? It's a clear reduction, but it's still very strong PCS.
Thanks for clarifying. Well maybe Chan wasn't underscored but other skaters got higher scores than they actually deserved. And I'd say it's not Chan who should worry about his PCS but Kozuka or Plushenko. Now seriously, I do think that the absence of a jump combination hurt Patrick's PCS quite a bit in the judges' eyes.
Your post just shows either you are just ignorant about skating or your hatred toward a skater that blind your judgement.
Chan is known to have one of the best, if not the best, skating skill out there today. Oh he uses his music to skate, or else, his jumps or other movement would not hit the music mark. Yes, he has great transitions through out his programs, very difficult too. He has great control of his speed. Nobody said Chan is a skating God. But people know what a great figure skater he is.
Despite the falls, his 2 quads and 1 axel are enough. He won because others didn't skate well either.
Wait, so what do you mean regardless of mistakes that others made? So are you saying only Chan's mistakes are matter, but not the others??


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Lightest Arrow Possible for 32 lbs
DW shoots a Hoyt Razor-tech maxed out at 32 lbs on the limbs. She's shooting LS 500's with 75 gr Saunders screw-ins with insert, CBE uni-bushings with A/C/E nocks, and 1.5" Blazers, total arrow length of 24-1/2", but can go 1" shorter, for a total weight of 265 grains.
Want to find a shaft/point/nock/vane combo that would put her down near 200 grains, if possible. Would make her 3-D experience a lot better...and mine too, so I wouldn't have to chase as many arrows.
Considering Flatlines with 50 grain glue in's and 1" micro-Blazers.
Any lighter shafts out there than 6.5 GPI? Helium filled shafts? Anti-gravity?
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Just using years of experience and without looking at any charts or computer programs I know a 500 spine is way too stiff for her so she should be shooting something closer to a 900 spine. Now finding that in the weight you want might take some time and cost some serious coin.
About the best I can come up with within reason is Gold Tip's Ultralite 600 or the Entrada 600 if price is an issue. I believe the shaft is 5.7 gpi. With the shaft cut to 25.5", three 2" feathers, standard nock, and a 35 grain Nibb they should weigh right at 199-200 grains. They're still going to be plenty stiff so you might want to add Gold Tip weights to the back of the Nibb.
I shoot these with a 35 gr tip and 10 grain weight for a total of 45 gr and the total arrow weight is 209 gr. I shoot these out of a 26.5" DL FireCat set at 42# and am getting 275 fps. The FOC isn't too high, but at just under 8% it's enough for 3D target arrows.
You'd be best off checking some of the Carbon Tech Cheetah arrows or Easton Redlines (if you can find them). Considering what you are trying to accomplish you need to look at arrows that weigh in the neighborhood of 5.5 gpi.
Maybe somebody with OT2 can confirm the proper spine, but you can also look at Easton's Target Shaft Selector to get a better idea of spine requirements.Martin/Rytera Silver Star Shooter
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You might check out the Victory Nanoforce 600s. They weigh in at 5.4 gpi
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i'd go with the Goldtip Ultralight 600's.. ive used 50 gr. in the past, works well.. i prefer the 80 gr points myself, they just feel better. my 3D arrows weigh about 255 gr, but i have a 27" draw.New Breed Archery
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I think the Cronin hire was a decent hire reguardless of what happens. The guy had a decent pedigree as an assistant coach and I definately think that helps. Lets face it, UC wasn't going to go out and get a big name coach. Basketball was the furthest thing from (the one who's name I must not speak) the President's mind. They weren't going to fork out the cash. Why not get a guy who wants to coach at UC, has been there before, and coached under some of those big name coaches. I don't know what kind of coach UC could have pulled in. To be quite honest, I don't even remember the other coaches that were in the race, if any, other than AK. I liked AK but he knew the program was set up to fail for a few years, his boss was fired the year before, and he got a chance to coach a team that he actually wanted to coach for personal reasons. He didn't want to come back.
Cronin has made some mistakes, probably because last year was so tough and he was trying to hard to get something going. He's young and he'll learn. He could have had worse mentors, that for sure. Huggs and Pitino are two coaches who get the best out of their players, and at times even turn player's lives and careers around. Not bad people to learn from.
Based on the team last year, and the above, I'm willing to give him the benifit of the doubt. The only thing that worries me is that he tries to become Huggins or Pitino, or that fans expect a Huggins or a Pitino. He has to find his own way to coach. Hopefully he will find his way realitively quickly, and fans will be patient as he finds his way.
I agree in that Cronin was a great hire. I don't think Mike Thomas could have done a better job with hiring Cronin and Brian Kelly. As far as this basketball season, it will be another long one. Last year's team was horrible, with little to none of the blame going to Mick. They had no business winning a few games they did last year (Xavier, NC State, West Virginia) which gives me some hope for the next few years.
I don't think we'll be able to truly judge Mick as a coach at UC for another 3 years. Last year's recruiting class was a last minute job, and this year's class was similar, even though we got a few quality recruits. Most coaches start recruiting their classes 3 years in advance, and until Mick has had a few years to catch up, I won't be judging him.
#15 recruiting class on Rivals
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And many other polls have UC in the top 25 recruiting classes in all of the nation.
Mick did all of that with a terrible record, Mick did a stellar job with the recruiting class and already has 2 4 stars locked up for '08 in Yancy Gates and Cashmere Wright.
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UC will be much improved, but they will still end up in the bottom half of the Big East. And that's not a knock on Cronin. The cupboard was beyond bare for him. It's not going to happen overnight.
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Tonight should be a good test of this team. The preseason was awful. They almost lost to NKU. How in the world is that possible? None the less, I expect tonight's game to be a good one. If the Cats can pull it out, I see good things in this season. Now I'm not going to be stupid and say they will win 22 games or something, but it will be much better than last season. I predict that they win about 17 games this year, which would be a tremendous step back to where we were.
-LTlabnerIf you can't build a winning team with that core a fire-sale isn't the solution. Selling the franchise, moving them to Nashville and converting GABP into a used car lot is.
Ced, I thought you were done with UC basketball after what happened to Huggins. Just curous why the change of heart?
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Ugh, I'm watching the game now, horrible defense and ice cold from behind the arch.
Rough first half - geesh - this team is as raw as I've ever seen. A harsh reminder that this program needs a couple of more seasons to get back on track.
That said Belmont is a pretty good team from what I can tell. Weren't they a tournament team last year?
Not a UC fan at all (UD fan), but I like Deonta Vaughn. He's scrappy.
Watching the game. Ugly first half saved by Vaughn at the end. He nailed a three, stole the inbound pass and got a layup. 5 points in 3 seconds.
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Heck, you don't even have to be an engineer. In a country where half the drivers have been licensed for less than five years, the Beijing Traffic Management Bureau acts as a sort of motor vehicle licensing center. In addition to building and maintaining roads, the bureau teaches basic driving skills such as how to read a highway sign, how to report an accident, and how to pass other vehicles.
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You could teach your colleagues in the world's second-largest economy (after the United States) the benefits of repairing roads at night, closing roads entirely to speed up repairs, or charging user fees. OK, so we're not a model example of the latter, but China should definitely consider it; part of the reason for the days-long gridlock last month that captured the world's attention (see caption) was that a larger-capacity route charges drivers based on vehicle weight and travel distance.
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I was telling some of the eastern shore hunters about some of the ice I have been out on at Reelfoot and they acted like I was full of it. One guy said he would think twice about going out in ice that is 1 inch thick. I wish I could load them up and bring them to the lake during a thick freeze up.


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some of the brand name ar-15s have gas ports a shade too small to run the cheap stuff which has slower lower pressure powder.
the only cheap stuff that wouldn't run in mine was that one batch of tula 55gr that had the bad powder. i mean really bad powder --LOL!
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Does anyone have a automotive paint store near them that sells acrylic lacquer paint ?
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I think I know where your going. It's illegal for any person to send somthing forbidden in california, to another person in california, especially anything to do with VOC's
Ahhh good ol' lacquer paint! Didn't know if you could still buy this stuff or not...Personally still a favorite when I was painting a show car.
Problem is I believe you can't paint lacquer over the polyester primer surfacers/fillers used today you'd have to use the lacquer primer and spot putties to be safe...
maybe someone else who has more recent knowledge of using lacquer - last time I did one was in the mid 80.s~ Doh!
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Hey guys,
Speaking of laquer paint, I painted my 34' coupe earlier this past spring in black acrylic laquer. It is still around here in TN but you really have to look for it. I had 1/3 gal of Dupont 99S and lucked out and found another gallon at an independent paint supplier in town. You might want to go to Dupont's web site and maybe PPG also to see if it is still being produced by them and where you can buy it. It is still available in So. Fla. but you will pay up the gazoo for it.
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Lacquers will work good over epoxy and 2K primers.
A little over a year ago I did with another painter a 67 vette that was classified as a "survivor" It had everything original including paint and original tires.
What we did was strip and epoxy, sprayed 2K and hand sanded without using a block so we would not straighten out any of the factory waves.
Sealed it with epoxy and wet sanded with 800.
Used PPG lacquer with DTL105 and sprayed just enough coats to cover as we were not going to buff so it would have the original gloss as it came from the factory. Each spec of dirt you had to sand and spot because of the no buffing.
This is the third one I have done that way over the years.
A lot of your bigger PPG and Dupont jobbers have lacquer but will tell you now its a $25,000 fine per item to ship to CA. So with thinner since you cannot use acetone that is $50,000.
Can someone explain to me why lacquer is outlawed and yet
spraying urethanes with all those iso's that is so deadly is ok???? :pimp:
Its all VOC's.
This all started with the carter administration when the tree huggers wanted to do something for the green house effect but they did not know what to do.
So they picked the top ten volume used solvents used in the USA and now those are regulated solvents. DUH.
Lacquer paints were 15-20 percent solids so they have a high amount of solvents and are a VOC nightmare.
Urethanes on the other hand will come in at 30% and higher solids.
Another factor was when lead was being taken out in the 80"s that one item killed the life and durability of lacquer by well over 50% so that was another reason for the demise.
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Lead contents as pigment use for Lacquers and all paints were substituted with Titanium dioxide during the mid 70's when they passed the Lead Poisoning Prevention Act. Large Chemical companies and industry supported this since the raw material cost on the modern finishes were so much more economical making the sale of the modern finishes more profitable and marketable.
Here is a little basics on VOC. As far as the Lacquer being available, under the "National Rule" that was enacted back in what?...........1999, I forget, I think about then Lacquer was compliant for "restorations of vehicles originally manufactured with lacquer paint" as I remember. What is still the same in the current rule I have no idea, I haven't kept up. But that was the rule as written as I remember.
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What in the world is VOC?
After seeing the term VOC misused lately I thought a little primer if youll pardon the pun was due.
VOC stands for Volatile Organic Compound. Basically it is solvents deemed dangerous to our atmosphere (more on that later) that flashes off during and after application. It is measured by pounds per gallon. You will see references like 4.6 VOC on many products. Meaning that the product has 4.6 pounds per gallon of VOC per sprayable gallon. When you see this on the front of the label it usually refers to as applied or sprayable, with all components mixed. If you look on the ingredient label you will likely see different numbers, these are referring as packaged. That would be the VOC in the can you are looking at, not as applied with them all mixed.
Theoretically if you were to mix the product with 4.6 VOC as applied with all its components and set the can out in the sun, after it fully flashed off and there was just hard stuff in the can, it would weigh the 4.6 less. That 4.6 pounds went up into the atmosphere. It wouldnt happen exactly like that, for a number of reasons but that is the basic theory behind the VOC measurement.
One of the reasons this wouldnt happen is the fact not all bad stuff is created equal. Remember, I said VOC is the stuff that goes UP into the atmosphere? Well, the stuff that goes DOWN isnt VOC is it? Not according to the powers that be in our Federal government. Some solvents are VOC exempt, meaning they have ZERO VOC.
The most obvious would be water, it is used in a number of waterborne and waterbase products. I would make sense to the layman that water is harmless (relatively) in this context. However, there are many other VOC exempt compounds such as acetone and chlorobenzotriflouride (oxhaul sp? trade name). Yep, thats right, acetone is exempt, zero VOC. These two particular solvents are very heavy, they dont go UP, instead they go DOWN as they flash off. One day they will likely be banned as well because they contaminate our ground water! But for the time being they are a freebie in the automotive paint industry.
You may not see "acetone" or "oxhaul" on the label of many of these products, but that is exactly what is in the can of many reducers these days.
I am sure I am about to loose you so let me get to the point. VOC or the lack of has NOTHING to do with the level of danger in the use of a product, NOTHING. Im sure we can agree acetone is some nasty stuff, yet it is VOC exempt. Dont let some one sell you a product that is low or zero VOC on the pretense it is safe. Even without the solvents, there is all kinds of stuff that is in the paint. I dont care if it is waterbase house paint. If you are spraying it, atomizing it, there are particles of the stuff in the air. Do you want to coat your lungs with particles of the Crescent Moon off white you are painting your living room in?
Ok, if I havent put you to sleep and would like to know more, here goes.
Oxhaul for instance is a very heavy solvent at 9.8 pounds per gallon. That is not only 9.8 lbs of free VOC, but it actually lowers the VOC of a given product, heres how.
If you had a primer that was 10 pounds VOC as packaged and reduced it 1:1 with Oxhaul it would then have a sprayable VOC of 5.1 VOC effectively, half of what it was. This is the only reason lacquer primer is still on the market, reduced with acetone 1:1 it is compliant. Reduced with lacquer thinner it is not even close. I am referring to the National Rule, in many areas there are local VOC regulations that restrict its sale.
High Solids hardeners for instance many times are zero VOC! So, you have a quart of hardener, with zero VOC, it is full of isocyanates, but it is VOC free. So again, that quart of VOC hardener will lower the VOC of the sprayable clear, yet make it MORE hazardous to YOU.
You will see all kinds of goofy mixing ratios like 4:1:1:1 with the first 1 being a urethane reducer and the second 1 being an exempt reducer. This is done to keep the VOC down and the product compliant. When the National Rule went into effect back in 1999 (?) you saw all kinds of goofy mixing ratios all of a sudden for this reason. If they didnt add some exempt solvents (or a LOT of exempt solvents) the product would have been dead on the shelf. So they had to MAKE it compliant to keep selling it.
As I said, it won't likely say "acetone" on the label, but that is what is in the can many times. S-W for instance has three "compliant" reducers that are exempt. The fastest is straight acetone, the next is a 70/30 mix with Oxhaul which is much slower flashing than acetone. The slowest is a 80/20 mix with the majority being Oxhaul.
With these heavy solvents it is imperative that you dont bomb on the product and give it full flash time. Many primers use acetone to keep the VOC down, if you bomb it on thinking it is only the primer you are going to have trouble with the product no curing. I have seen super low VOC products that were mixed correctly (at least I think they were) that were still WET days later because of this.
As a rep I dealt with this stuff all the time and in fact I worked markets in both VOC regulated and no VOC regulated before the National Rule. It has been a few years so I am certainly more than a little rusty in the area. As long as the point is clear VOC is NOT a gauge of danger to YOU, I dont really care is some minute detail is not totally accurate.
You need to protect yourself, none of these products are safe, NONE of them.
As long as the point is clear VOC is NOT a gauge of danger to YOU, I don't really care is some minute detail is not totally accurate.
You need to protect yourself, none of these products are "safe", NONE of them.
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Very good point Brian, the rules are a joke and I will stop there.
Acetone and Oxsol are considered non voc in everything but TBA is considered voc free in primers but not clears, so its safe in a primer or an epoxy but not in a clear??? I'm so confused!!
Also Oxsol is very heavy compared to most solvents that range from 6-8Lbs per gallon, coming in at a fat 11.2 lbs per gallon.
Here is the hazards of Oxsol:
Eyes, Ingestion, Inhalation, Skin.
Central Nervous System, Kidneys, Liver.
Eyes, Respiratory Tract, Skin.
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The delivery captain loosened up and had some stories about things. New Age mystics had commissioned him for a night trip, once, and he lost power, and a strange green light rose up around the boat. Then one time a low-flying Cessna headed for the south island fell out of the sky and disappeared below the waves in a blink.
We all needed to unwind after the crossing; holding tight in 8 to 10s in the stream built a collective nervous tension. The tables at the restaurant sat under a trellis on an open-air patio, and the breeze kicked up from the front that had hindered our cruise, sending napkins into the air.
Tim tried the ring toss game and stuck it on the first swing and the next few hours disappeared trying to find the balance between rum and hand-eye coordination.
Bonefish T pulled his skiff into a vacant slip behind the hotel and we stepped down onto the bow and he ran east into the sunrise, stopping on a flat intersected by mangrove islands.
Nothing brings insecurities to fore like standing on the bow of a flats skiff, especially with a head made weak from dehydration. Bonefish T found a school and turned his skiff and called out instruction. I lay down a cast and missed and awaited castigation.
"Pick it up and lay it down again, to the left," T said calmly, and I did.
The line tightened up and I held the rod high and watched the backing peel off the reel. After a while T pulled the sleek metallic fish out of the water and handed it to me for a snapshot.
The delivery captain had some friends on a sportfisherman that made the crossing and he went to meet them. Jill wanted food first so the rest of us found an outside eatery and filled up on beer and cracked conch.
The server asked what brought us here.
"Bring a barracuda back for me tomorrow," she said laughing in response.
The flats around the south island did have drug planes; the upturned tires of a flipped one exposed in the shallow water. T poled me in front of a small group of large cruisers and one bit and took me far into my backing and as I reeled it in the fish charged straight for the boat. A large lemon shark fell in behind it, ripping a wake.
Loosen the drag loosen the drag, T kept saying and I had no tension on my line but it still ended in a frothy explosion that carried the violence over a great distance.
The crew from the sportfisherman was at the Compleat Angler and they recognized us and we played Liar's Poker for the rounds. Jill stuck her business card under the glass table surface with all the other cards and photographs (a permanent record that would disappear in the fire a year later).
We had a Chalk's flight in the morning so Tim and Jill left early but I made one last stop at the hotel bar because you think about a trip for months and then you're in the middle of it, and then you go to sleep and when you wake up, it's in the past. And that feeling you get when the line comes tight starts to fade so you can barely remember it.


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|I still have my 29-foot pilothouse powerboat, but it's on dry land and for sale. It was perfect for doing the shallow-draft inshore route of Georgian Bay, but I'm a sailor at heart and am focussing on my C&C 27. Powerboaters here generally are different than sailors, more of an RV culture. They stick to carefully buoyed channels, and when they get to marine parks a lot of them want a dock, would love to have hydro, want to be able to drop off their trash, and generally aren't going to try to blaze trails into the cruising unknown. Some are an exception, but a lot of them don't even like to anchor. I've watched people with decent sized express cruisers drive em right onto the beach at Giant's Tomb rather than anchor out. As for the fuel issue, it is hurting hereabouts, and I would agree that the smaller end boats are getting hit the hardest. People just don't have the budgets, and when they start cutting back on their trips, they start looking harder at their total marina costs. Our season is short, and boating can start to look awfully expensive. A couple years ago a marina operator on the east side of the bay was already telling me the flotilla traffic was down. Americans especially who come up Huron or Michigan and into the North Channel were just turning around and going home rather than heading into Georgian Bay the way they used to. All the for-sale signs don't surprise me, and no, they won't become sailors.
Last time around this phenomenon led to some REALLY bad sailboats as the manufacturers (Bayliner, Reinell) tried to get into the sailboat business as a survival tactic... Not seeing that this time around.
What I have noticed this past season is more planing-capable powerboats rumbling along at 8 knots or so.... a sudden interest in seeing the sights? or a keener eye on the gas gauge?
Looking around our area it doesn't really look like the high end powerboat market is slowing down... I guess if you can lay out that kind of cash the fuel costs are incidental.
You mean those powerboats actually go out sometimes? I thought they were just for filling up marinas.
In the marinas round here there are three powerboats for every sail boat. But out on the water, if you exclude the small fishing guys the ratio is exactly the reverse.
Well, I am. But my main reason is that I want a bigger boat. And fuel on my smaller PB was bad enough so going up in size to a trawler wasn't acceptable.
At marinas near me, the big slips are full but the medium & especially the small slips are thinning out quite a bit. Those were for 25' to 35' boats. They aren't getting re-filled with sailboats. I think the average PB is just going out less or not going as far or downsizing to smaller boats.
I was talking to a fuel dock guy up in Northern Lake Huron. I asked if his business was suffering. He said his volume was the same but he was seeing fewer boats. Meaning the big boats were buying more fuel than ever. Boats like my 26' were becoming scarce.
I was very happy to get above BUC price for mine!
Gobble Gobble
According to a sailboat broker The Admiral and I talked to earlier this year: No, power-boaters are not switching to sailing craft.
I think most power-boaters aren't in it for anything close to the same reasons sailors are.
Funny, I do not see a drop in sales for SUV's and trucks in my area nor do I see a waning interest in high performance cars, some people just don't think green.
According to data from NMMA sailboats are only a fraction or small percentage of boat sales. Most boat sales are those that have outboards on them, likely trailerable, after that the inboard/outboard and on up the scale. I did see a big surge in the kyack/canoe sector relative to the original small market share they occupied. See links below:
I realize this data is a few years old but it does indicate a trend. Powerboats are still the boat of choice despite the fuel costs.
I guess I should have said "joe average" not the upper middle class. I was talking with a transport captain one day last week and he was telling me they just moved a boat up the coast. $19,000! in fuel!
I guess PBers could argue that us sailboaters have all the fuel problems and engine problems because we don't use our engines enough
I still think there are going to be thousands of PBs owned by average working for a living type people for sale or stuck in the backyard or left to the elements.
Sailors & Powerboaters are different
Keep in mind that sailing is a sport, a skill, a hobby, and for many, a lifestyle. The compartive complexity between the two is what seems to drive purchase choices; not gas. Powerboating is for playing on the water or taking care of commercial business -- insert key, start motor, go. The remark of a powerboater sums it up. "I couldn't switch to sail, there are all those ropes, and sails, and things, the heeling, slowness, need for lessons -- it's all too much. I just get in my boat and go."
|The big power boats in my marina still go out, day trips and all. It's the mid-sized ones that are popping up with "For Sale" signs all over the place.
|Most of my frends with 40+ foot PB simply decided that day trips were out but still did the vacation thing. One of my buddies with a Pace 46 said that his fuel cost last summer was roughly $5.00 per mile.
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I had a good season but was not able to get out much, I called to 3-4 gobblers none where interested and my last weekend out I had 7 Jakes surprise me one day but not spook, that day I tried and tried to get close to a long beard but he only gobbled so I would come to him and so now I know where he or others may be the next day or next season.
So Friday I set up at o dark thirty in the same area he was in just after sunrise, with him on private property and me about 100 or so yards away. He did the same thing friday as Thursday so I figured he would be in the same clearing that evening too. Part of what may have made him leave was I saw two guys within a 100 yards of my decoys planning where to get him and they headed right for the private property fence. I'm sure they where going to try to poach him, they never saw me waiving so I had to say HEY and the gobbler left a few min. later so who knows. I do know that those guys sat on a hill with no chance of getting a bird for more than two hrs. started down saw me and went back up, it seamed as though they where waiting for me to leave so they could cross the fence.
At about 9:30 am 7 or so Jakes came into the clearing on a trail about 50 ft. from me with a few hens, I was only videoing them and waiting for my long beard, they came by 3 times spooked and ran back to the trail milling around 50 ft. from me.
I decided this was my last trip this season and decided to take the Jake with the longest beard.
I don't think the long beard was going to come in to me that morning anyway and I'm happy the way things went and even more important I learned a lot about this area!
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