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Journey across America
Boyhood friends look back at 2,180 enlightening miles on the Appalachian Trail
By MICHAEL COUSINEAU
New Hampshire Union Leader | July 12. 2013 11:09PM
Ollie Cardin, left, and Alex Letvinchuk pose with their backpacks after returning home to Manchester after their hike of the Appalachian Trail. The lifelong friends, both 23, spent four months and 10 days on the trail. For more photos and tales from the trail, visit Letvinchuk's blog at whatthechuk.squarespace.com/blog/ (DAVID LANE/UNION LEADER)
- Alex Letvinchuk, April 21 blog item
A three-sided shelter had failed to protect them from an icy storm.
Barely a week from the start of a planned hiking trek from Georgia to Maine, Cardin and best friend Alex Letvinchuk were facing one of many challenges.
"To me, it was a little bit of a pride thing," Cardin said. "I thought two guys from New Hampshire, if there's a reason I go home, it's not going to be because of the snow."
"Every day, probably around mile ten, when my legs start to fatigue and my feet beg me to stop I think of the alternative. What would I be doing if I wasn't hiking? Would I be sitting at a desk somewhere cursing myself for taking a monotonous job just so I could pay my college loans? Would I still be living at my parents house cursing myself for not having a better monotonous job so I could get out of the house? Would I be happy?"
But during their college break for Thanksgiving, the boyhood friends who grew up together on Manchester's Bayberry Lane signed on for early 2013, nine months after Letvinchuk graduated from St. Anselm College and Cardin from the University of New Hampshire, for "one last big adventure that we could do together," Letvinchuk said. In the meantime, they saved money and trained at the Manchester YMCA, countless steps on the Stairmaster and endless miles on the treadmill, taking turns wearing a weighted vest to simulate a backpack.
"As soon as you got on the trail and strapped on the pack, you knew any amount of training that we did was really not going to prepare us adequately for the trail," Letvinchuk said.
In North Carolina, an Ohio man told them he was dropping his plans to complete the trail after about a month of hiking. He missed his wife, had a cattle farm to tend to and was awaiting a new grandchild.
Scott Hopkins, a Virginia hiker who met the Manchester pair in North Carolina, recalled their perseverance.
"Hiking with them, it helps me keep going in the tough moments, when all you want to do is stop for the day and go into town (but) you have to keep hiking," Hopkins said.
A turn in the weather boosted their spirits.
"The snow stopped right when we reached Virginia," Letvinchuk said. "It was a real big confidence booster to beat the snow."
Once they reached roughly the half-way point at Harpers Ferry in West Virginia, they sat around the campfire. "We looked at each other and said, 'We've got a shot,'?" Letvinchuk said.
"You're constantly thinking about the next meal you can have once you're in civilization. I have had countless dreams that solely revolve around food."
They would pack up camp and start hiking around 7 a.m., aiming for 18 to 22 miles a day. Sometimes, they could cover 2 or 3 miles in an hour, depending on the topography.
They hiked until around 7 p.m., set up camp and ate dinner around 7:30 or 8. Dinner often featured Ramen noodles, a bag of pasta, a pocket of tuna and more granola bars. Then off to sleep at nightfall.
The pair typically averaged five to seven days in between showers. Letvinchuk on his blog wrote that someone asked, " 'why does it smell like old peanut butter and jelly sandwiches over here?' That would be me."
"I don't feel like a twenty-three year old anymore. Everyday is a struggle to leave my tent. Every hill sucks the dwindling energy from my body. This is no longer a physical battle, but then again, was it ever?"
"It was just a matter of can you ignore the pain and just keep going? You know everyone's going to hurt," Letvinchuk said. "Anyone can physically do it. It's just walking. It's just how long it's going to take you."
"You can always slow down to kind of rest your body, but you're not leaving the trail. You're never escaping it," he said. "Even when you go into town, it's never a rest. You've got to go in, resupply your food, do your laundry. You're always thinking about it. You're always surrounded by trail thoughts. Your body hurts and you could end it all now. You could end all the pain -"
But they pressed on, two full weeks through Pennsylvania, with its trail filled with jagged rocks that made it difficult to take solid steps at times.
Then they spent a little more than a week getting through New Jersey and New York State before arriving in New England the Friday before Memorial Day weekend, which featured cold and rainy weather.
"It will continue to be stories of highs and lows, peaks and valleys, a story of pain and perseverance. These next 600 miles will be harder than any other we've hiked, but with every conflict comes the glory of completing the greatest story of my life."
Five friends met them at different parts of the New Hampshire trail to offer the use of a shower, laundry machine and/or a place to sleep, acts hikers call "trail magic."
"When you get to New Hampshire, it's a lot more mountainous," Letvinchuk said. "You're above the tree line pretty much for the first time. The views in New Hampshire are just breath-taking."
"To get a clear day on top of it must have been a good treat for him, a good birthday present," Letvinchuk said.
"That was one of my low points on the trail, just getting mentally beat by the mountains and the weather. You know you're so close, but especially in southern Maine, you still have 281 miles to go," Letvinchuck said.
"The bridge broke and I lost my cup and pot in the river, so I basically went without food for that night," he said. "I ate one of those packs of Ramen (noodles) raw. There were just so many mosquitoes everywhere. I kept thinking how miserable I was."
"I was staring up at the trees, and I was really kind of sad I was going to step away from this lifestyle, how comfortable I had gotten," he said.
The next morning, a little before 9:30 a.m. on July 7, they reached the finish line at a sign on Mount Katahdin in Baxter State Park. Letvinchuk's dad, Peter, hiked up to meet the pair. Hopkins made it, too.
After a six-hour drive back to Manchester, Letvinchuk texted his hiking buddy around 2:30 a.m., telling him about new tents he had just found on the Internet.
Cardin said he might go on a day hike this fall. Letvinchuk is looking for something bigger.
"You just appreciate all the small conveniences more. Everything being at your fingertips," Cardin said.
Letvinchuk said he had missed driving a car. Cardin said he appreciated being inside a car during a recent rain storm, deploying defrost or air conditioning at will.
The four-plus month trip gave the men time to contemplate life and human nature.
"I look at everything quite differently now. I think problems I will face going forward won't be as monumental," he said. "Knowing there are worse things out in life. You could be stuck in a snowstorm. Even in a bad situation, just keeping a sense of level-headedness is real important. When I was having a bad day, I would tell myself at least it's not snowing right now."
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Discussion in 'The Trash Can' started by lala, Mar 25, 2013.
Do the fans now vote for the placements? What is this - Dancing with the Stars?
Well, good luck with that petition. Anyway, Denis Ten already received a (small) gold World Championship medal for his winning free skate, so he at least has that proof of how his performance ranked against Chan and the rest of the field.
Can we go back in time and award medals to skaters who were "robbed" as well?
Hopefully this thread will head to the Trash Can where it belongs.
As mentioned above, Denis already received a gold "small medal" at the 2013 Worlds for winning the free skate.
The results of the 2013 Worlds were decided by the performances of the skaters in their short and free programs as represented by the scores of the judges and they are now history. Don't bother with useless petitions!
Well, that certainly blows any credibility or objectivity that Monica Friedlander might have had as a figure skating "journalist".
Not to mention that she clearly doesn't understand the difference between what happened at 2013 Worlds and at the 2002 Olympics. If she has evidence of pre-determined results or judging improprieties at 2013 Worlds - *real* evidence, not just "I don't agree with the results" - she would help skating more by revealing that evidence, not by starting petitions.
Oh, God let's hope Linda Fratianne doesn't see this...
I get why people were upset with the result, especially to the untrained eye, I thought when Denis was skating that he was going to win, but it didn't happen. But, people have got to realize that this sport and seriously just get over it. It's a skating competition, not a life-or-death event, things happen. This happened almost two weeks ago now, it's time to move on to other things and look forward to World Team Trophy and what next season will bring.
I have to disagree with this petition as well. Does IJS have it's problems? You betcha. But having petitions to reverse outcomes is a very slippery slope. I'd rather see a petition to get rid of Cinquata as head of the ISU.
And while I'm no fan of Chan, I feel for him here. He'd best skate error-free at the Olympics, because he will be the subject of some nasty backlash if he doesn't and he medals (or wins) anyway.
Is this the first time a petition has actually been started to reverse a decision at a skating competition? Wow! Just wow!
ETA: I started to look through the signatures and this comment was left by someone in Russia who decided not to leave his/her name:
Good to know Canada and the U.S. produces so many fake and forgotten champions.
What a hot mess that petition is!
OMG, this is just ridiculous. I LOVE Patrick's skating and I understand IJS/CoP and so I am comfortable with the result. And I know I am biased here, but these attacks on Patrick are just sickening and heartbreaking. I am all for speaking out against shoddy and/or crooked judging, or a flawed judging system, but I have never, nor will I ever attack the skaters themselves. They all work so hard and without them we wouldn't have our beloved sport. I agree with kylet3, it's time to move on.
I believe this "petition" is the last thing Denis would want. The supporters of this petition should read what he had to say about that many people felt he should have won.
Sigh. Between this petition and most of the few skating journalists left writing about the results, every causal figure skating fan that speaks English is going to think that the judges had some deal going on behind the scenes to automatically figure out how many points to award Chan to make sure he stayed first. And how exactly does that help the sport? It reminds me of Phil Hersh and how he's either 1) claiming that the results are fixed before it even happens (see all of his Tweets about how V/M were going to win, or 2) saying that the results weren't fair but he (and everyone else doing any reporting) can't go into any detail about why they come to this conclusion besides that it's just those awful judges.
I've said this so many times since the actual free skate, but the problem lies within the scoring system itself. And within that, it's only a few small aspects that need tweaking IMO. Many people want to go on and on about how Chan didn't deserve a skating skill mark or a transition mark as high as he did because of the falls. I've countered those arguments so many times (as have others), and even without me, I think we all get the gist that nowhere in the PCS criteria does it address falls as a (severe) hinderance to the score.
However, look at the TES mark. Sure, Chan had two great quads at the beginning of his program. But he also under-rotated and fell on his only triple Axel attempt, while Ten did two beauties (one as a 3+3 combination). Chan also had another fall, a big fall-out, and a doubled jump later in his program, while Ten only doubled one intended jump and not a single element in his free skate received negative GOE. I do think that some of Chan's GOE's are suspicious (+3 and +2's for the final double Axel? Huh?), but all in all, I just think that the punishment for a missed element is not strict enough. I've been saying that since the ISU made the GOE's more lenient in favor of the skater for attempting 'high-risk' elements following the 2010 Olympics. We all remember 2010 Skate Canada and Chan's three-fall short program, don't we?
If we actually tackled getting a point total for what *is* actually completed successfully on the ice vs. a disaster skate and the separation there should be between the two, then all of these people crying about how Chan deserved a 5.00 for skating skills because he spent roughly 2 seconds of his free skate falling wouldn't have much to complain about anymore... well, besides performance/execution, I guess.
I find the petition quite amusing. I did enjoy reading some of the comments. That said, if someone wants to start a petition and folks want to sign it, good for them. Telling people to "get over something" is kind of insulting. It's skating. We've debated Annett vs Linda, Nancy vs Linda, Tara vs Michelle, etc for yrs..We know it's not life or death..but the few skating fans left are still quite passionate. It's worth a chuckle.
Some people just have too much free time on their hands.
Was this petition started by bek?
this is becoming ridiculous.
Seriously. People may hate the whole 'second gold' for SLC, but at least there they had actual reasons to consider there was corrupted judging/collusion. (Ie, a judge having a couple breakdowns in front of witnesses.) There's no evidence at all any judges deliberately collaborated to "give" Chan the win, they used the scoring system as it stands and he came out first overall.
Not unless bek is Monica Friedlander. The "journalist" Monica Friedlander has been whining and bitching about IJS since at least 2008 and has her own blog about saving figure skating. In 2008 Monica was whinging about the death of the K&C because she had apparently had trouble counting and wanted her 6.0's back because math is too much for her pretty little head to grasp.
Honestly Monica (and you must read this forum) it's time to educate yourself and move forward. 6.0 is gone, deal with it and get over it. It's people like you that are ruining figure skating.
No not at all... I didn't even know about it till right now...Hilarious!
Whats done is done in terms of marks. I find it hilarious though... I'm not the type to start petitions. And as for no evidence there was cheating, well did anyone even attempt to look for cheating. The little I know of Salt Lake is that some judged leaned very hard on that French judge to get her to break after if I understand. Maybe she's just crazy too who knows.
But Denis I doubt has powerful people on HIS side to do the same. I'm sorry I have a hard time thinking politics played absolutely no role in this. I suspect there was nothing abnormal about Salt Lake.
The sport could save itself a lot of heartache if it introduced mandatory deductions in P/E and further penalties on falls. Given how subjective this sport is....Not having these things and results like Chan's win hurts its credibility.
The result isn't automatically unfair just because many people were not happy with it......the system is flawed in that it tries to both reward technical content and risk, while also rewarding quality. They don't penalize mistakes enough because they don't want 2010 all over again where safe performances win the gold. Now flawed performances are winning gold so I'm sure revisions will follow. It was the rules and the system that allowed Patrick to win, not politics.
I'm sorry though, but it is absolutely a crock of shit that people just label the result as "politically determined" or "a judging controversy". I will not be signing this petition.
In the end I just feel bad for Patrick. If any of you guys actually knew anything about him, you'd know that he doesn't drink up the results and think he's the best thing since sliced bread. He feels he's the skater that everyone hates, and all he wants to do is have people appreciate his skating (which he obviously works really hard at). Instead, he's almost unanimously hated for results which he has no control over. Try doing what you love and trying to be the best YOU can be and having the entire skating world hate you because you skate, and just so happen to achieve results which many deem unfair.
Poor guy. I'm not a fan/uber, but I feel really bad for the guy. I simply appreciate his skating and empathize with the situation he's thrown into. Put yourself in his shoes for a minute will ya? FYI I know one of his trainers whom he works with on a weekly basis.
people are actually that pissed off about this?
I don't blame Patrick for the results. But Patrick brings on some criticism when he makes comments like Denis made as many mistakes as him. He'd be better off saying I'm not the judges, than saying haha my competition must be kicking themself, and they made as many mess ups as me. What he said about Denis was frankly not true.
Still though you feel sorry for Patrick, what about the other skaters. When Patrick's consistently winning with all of these mistakes, what does it tell the other skaters? It tells them why bother showing up.
Still though the ISU brings these questions on themselves, because other skaters I'm sorry get hit much harder on PCS when they mess up. That's the problem. Why does Dai get hit about 5 points and Chan only 3? Its hard for me to cynically think politics played absolutely no role in this one. I don't buy it. The sport has to much history of playing political games.
Patrick though shouldn't be asked to defend the judging.
And at this point while I won't sign it because the results were made. If fans don't speak up it won't change.
I am a fan, not an uber fan though, but I feel sorry for the guy. I was in the arena for the long program and groaned when the final results came up. I knew all this would happen.
I am no saint, but I really, really try to reserve judgement of people and situations etc. because we honestly never know how we would act in those same ones until we are "in their shoes". And we would probably all act quite differently anyway......even surprising ourselves sometimes. I can't even begin to imagine what a sports star or famous actor or singer goes through in their daily life.
I hope ISU release some documentation on why Patrick's scores were fair given the current system, and throw in some snark like the White House did with those petitions to build a Death Star or to release info on Alien collaborations.
It's people like this who buys that crap that is killing figure skating.
Like, ZOMG!, you guyz, this petition is going to force the ISU to strip P.Chiddy of his World gold for realz; all the shady, skandal filled shenanigans of the ISU will come to an end ONCE AND FOR ALL!!! ................
The French judge was telling other judges in the fall who was going to win the Olympic gold medal. It wasn't just the events at the Olympics that were suspicious.
The fact that there was politicking probably wasn't abnormal. But the skaters didn't perform in ways that supported the predetermined outcomes, and that's what blew the whole thing open. That was abnormal.


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Hi everyone,
I played Lineage 2 for about 5 years (both official and private servers), then I had a break. Now I would like to play same similar MMORPG for low-end PC (because I want to play on my laptop as well as desktop).
What I tried so far:
World of Warcraft - don't like it (but runs great!)
Flyff - freezes
Shaiya - very, VERY! similar to Lineage 2 (even darkelf walks the same)
War / Battle of Immortals - I don't like "2.5D"
Neverwinter - wow, I liked it, but it's too laggy in cities and graphics are very bad on minimum
So basically, I am looking for low-end PC MMORPG in style of Lineage 2 / Guild Wars 2 / TERA. Any ideas? Thanks!
My system specifications:
CPU: Intel Celeron B830 @ 1.8GHz
GPU: on-board


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Fresh off the North Carolina women's soccer team's 22nd national championship captured last Sunday in a 4-1 victory over Penn State, the Tar Heels are ranked No. 1 in the final Continental Tire/National Soccer Coaches Association of America released Tuesday.
The Tar Heels were a near unanimous selection in the final poll of the campaign receiving 32 of the 33 first-place votes with Stanford receiving the other vote.
Carolina received 824 total poll points and moved up to first after finishing 13th int he final regular-season poll. The 15-5-3 Tar Heels were followed in the Top 10 by Penn State, Stanford, Florida State, BYU, UCLA, San Diego State, Florida, Duke and Virginia.
View the complete final NSCAA poll here.


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interesting view of the republican party, but not mine. you'd be hard pressed to find anyone more conservative than i. in fact, i think much of the republican party has become to liberal and this is the reason for losing.
I do not care whether it is the republicans or tea party, if they continue the positions of throwing 40 million back across the border, denigrating women, and fighting for millionaires, they will continue to lose moving forward. It is too easy for the dems to have a discussion on abortion, immigration, and other points, and make the republicans look bad.
Will the republicans really lower debt? Did they do this the last time they were power? Or are some more concerned with legislating morals? More concerned with two gays they never met, or forcing a women who was raped to carry to term?
Do you really think the vast majority of folks care about 17 trillion in debt? I'm not talking about you and me, and perhaps other educated folks. I'm talking about the vast majority of voters that are concerned with everyday issues. They do not.
Give me candidates that want true conservatism from a political stance, about debt, military, and personal freedom. And leave all the other morals and social crap at the door. But because they can not do that, the right will lose moving forward.
The right could not even get elected with 8% unemployment, gas around 4 dollars, a out of control debt, and the economy in chaos.
But go ahead and select a candidate that fits your concerns of gays in the military
> "We cannot trust the republicans to do the right thing."!We cannot trust the POLITICIANS to do the right thing!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you think you can trust the Democrats any more than the Republicans you are sadly deluded.
It's easy for me.I want a candidate that will work on safety, security, and financial issues of the country.I don't need or want a person who wants to legislate morals, push personal religious stances, etc. To me, that can be left up to the individual. My idea of a smaller government translates across the board to include their control of what I do in my bedroom, house, or with another person. And I feel that way about everyone else. And to think some select candidates based on their personal pompous stances, religious or not, thinking they should legislate morals to me is not a role or definition of what government should be about.The right (as a whole) thinks everyone (legal) should own any gun they want, then thinks that a gay in the military is wrong. :roll:You are correct, the "right" did not run for president. But they as a group are defined by the whole, candidate included, and lost based on their positions. We can blame Mitt if you want. But I think much of it is defined by the positions of the party.I would rather look at the overall party, and their dismal failure to broadcast a message of hope. They ran based on denigrating Obama, and probably justifiably so. But in the end, the tea party, the republicans, and the right, are defined by positions. And their positions, and what they hold dear, does not translate into getting votes.I am against abortion myself. But I am in no way of the thought that I should tell others what they should do, and do not think selecting a candidate based on some litmus test of his abortion views is needed. It's like working for a great boss of a large company. I want a president to run the country like a business. I do not need to question the owner of a company as to his personal views on abortion in thinking whether I want a job. I have worked for many people, but have never delved into their personal life style.I need someone to run the country. And not someone who will interject his personal morals into the job. Staying out of my of my life, a view I have for government, includes everything. And not just the matters that I disagree with.I do not agree with the left. I do not agree with the right. I'm just stating that the right, in putting abortion on the table, and other unrealistic issues like throwing out 40 million people, and worrying about gays in the military, is the reason they are not in control. Build a fence...sure! Threaten to kick out 40 million people....and you lose the argument, and the vote. You can argue the principle of how, why, and whether we have 40 million here illegally. But the solution and message in regards to a plan, is what decides votes.Keep fighting against gays in the military....and you lose.Threaten to kick out 40 million illegals.....and you lose.Tell women they nust carry a pregnancy rape baby....and you lose.You may feel very strong about these issues. I'm just telling you why your side, regardless of what that is, will continue to lose with those positions and goals.Don't think so?.....the country is about as bad as it ever has been, (Inflation, debt, etc.) and yet more people went with the left.Not hard to understand why.
Then it was DADT, and easy for those against gays as a band-aid since if they did not know about it, they were happy. And if a gay was outed, then it was THEIR fault, and no longer worthy to serve in the military. Great fighter pilots and others were kicked out, under the assumption it was their fault since they let it come out.Myself, I do not think being gay is "learned". I do not think you can pray away gay.I happen to think that people are born gay and it is not for the lack of some dad passing a football in the backyard while teaching their son how to fart and grunt while scratching their asses.But again you prove my point. You are against gays in the military. And while you claim that society has "degraded" for it, it is a place where people's viewpoints and attitudes have changed. More folks are tolerant and undersand that you can still be productive and a valuable person in society, even in the military, if gay. And that taking the position that gays can't do this, or shouldn't have this job, is a losing position.


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|Mr. P-Body
Still not sure what you're driving at here. The "funny car" reference?
The "recipe" you supplied for an old Pontiac is from the 1970s. Race gas and high compressin are for RACE CARS, not street cars. With that cam/head combination, the engine will make MAYBE 450 HP, be out of breath at 5,800 and in general, be a slug except in a light car with stiff gears.
Today, we take a completely different approach to building a powerful Pontiac. Porting the heads is paramount. The little intake ports are fine for a "stocker", but won't let a 455 rev.
While it may not be "necessary" to rev a Pontiac hard to make power (unlike the SBC), why not have "both"? It's nearly impossible to "tune" the low-end power "out". So, add parts to make it breath, and will make low-end power AND rev. Solid lifters also make a HUGE difference in performance. If the budget can stand it, solid rollers are "the best". Comp has some very nice "street" grinds in the XE series, just for the lower compression and higher revs.
It's not uncommon at all, to have 550-600 HP and 600 lb ft. with 93 octane, under 6,000. How about spinning it to 7.500? WOO-HOO!
Cool aid quality pump gas is bad now and is getting worse so people must build their emissions engines accordingly.
Providing that you have an engine that does not have emissions restrictions, such as those without a catalytic converter you can get 12:1 static compression ratio, 9.4:1 dynamic compression ratio, and 220 lb. cranking cylinder pressure would be the limit before you must O-ring the block.
Get it with an "Old School" 1970 455 CI Pontiac, 1967 GTO/Firebird 400 heads (#670), Comp Cams 041H Ram Air IV camshaft, Borg Warner Super T10 with a 2.64 low, 3.90:1 gears, 100%, VP C12, 108 octane racing fuel at $14 per gallon and plenty of "bite" fills the bill nicely.
|Mr. P-Body
Funny cars? Hydraulic cams?
It's very important to most folks today, to run well on "pump gas", 93 or lower octane. Using 108 in a street car is not practical. The Pontiac chamber is "unique", both a blessing and a curse. When octane is right, timing is right and the engine is "happy", the chamber provides good power and lower emmissions than most others of the era. That same efficiency makes them very prone to detonation when things aren't EXACTLY right (erred on the side of "danger", not "caution").
1967-1970 GTO/Firebird 400 heads
11.8:1 static compression ratio
10.8:1 dynamic compression ratio
Melling SPC-8 Ram Air IV camshaft
Comp Cams 863 limited travel lifters
Richmond 4-speed
3.64:1 rear cogs
BF Goodrich Drag radials.
100% VP C-12 108 octane racing fuel
Run with the funny cars.
|Mr. P-Body
455 ring pack has a 5/64" top ring, 1/16" second ring and 3/16" oil ring. Stock dimensions. The increase in stroke from 4" to 4.210" added significant wear to the second ring, so the size reduction was made before the engine went into production.
The Speed Pro L2359F is FAR superior to the KB piston. We use them (KBs) for ash trays. The Icon forgings, however, are every bit as good, if not better than the Speed Pros, and lighter, for about the same money.
In order for a "flat top" piston'd 455 to make under 9.5:1 (accepted limit for 93 octane and iron heads on a Pontiac) requires 98 CCs in the chamber/dish, not including the gasket. Purge the term "get away with" from your vocabulary. Do it right.
Also, be certain to install new FORGED connecting rods. Don't let ANYONE convince you you don't need them. The original rods are a cast steel, and were inadequate when NEW, much less 40 years later... RPM rods make a nice replacement for a reasonable price (about the same cost as new bolts and resizing the old rods).
Be sure to get Jim Hand's "How to Build Max-performance Pontiac V8s" by SA Designs. It's the most current study of the ol' Injun. There's a "rewrite" in process, but none of the original "players" were consulted. The "tractor motor" crowd has hijacked the book. It's okay. Still TONS of good info on modern builds "out there". And we HAVE learned how to build Pontiacs that rev just like any other brand... (we shifted Dirty Bird @ 9,200, a 475 CID Pontiac blown/alcohol, about 2,200 HP) But they STILL make a bunch more low-end than the "other" GM engines that are popular among the racer crowd.
|He has 4X 455 heads that he has to use, big chambers, no prob. w/too much CR. Good catch on the ring size, though. Was looking at the 428 KB's http://www.kb-silvolite.com/assets/a...ve_catalog.pdf.
If you use those pistons (flat top) make sure you have 1971-1979 cylinder heads with no less than 90 CC combustion chamber volume or you will forced to use a large percentage of 108 octane racing fuel. The alternative would be to machine a dish in the L2359NF pistons. The L2359NF or L2359F pistons are Sealed Power VMS 75 alloy which is a thicker medium eutectic silicon alloy forging. The top of those pistons will take a dish .300"deep x 3.00" diameter.
With no less than 90 CC combustion chambers, and Fel Pro 8518PT head gaskets that have .039" crushed thickness, your 455 engine will have 10.6:1 static compression ratio. That is borderline for 93 octane pump gas with the initial timing advance set where the engine will run best. There may be off the shelf dished pistons available for the 455 engine but they are smog pistons made of 4032 hypereutectic 18% silicon alloy. My 455 engines had 1963 heads with 70 CC combustion chambers and had 11.8:1 compression ratio. I had to use 100% 108 octane VP C-12 racing fuel with the initial timing set anywhere.
Standard 455 Pontiac rings are 5/64" top / 1/16" second / 3/16" oil. The 455 engine has high thrust loading so GM used a 1/16" second ring in an attempt to reduce cylinder wall wear. The 455 SD racing engines used 1/16" top and second rings and the pistons were forged 2618 (2% silicon) eutectic alloy. The forged pistons and 455 SD/RA-IV camshaft is the reason why the team of engineers who developed the optional 455 SD engines were fired in 1975. . The 455 SD engine could not comply with emissions tests mandated by the revised 1970 EPA Clean Air Act, even after it was tested and equipped with the relatively mild 1966 HO / Tri-power and 1969-70 Ram Air III camshaft. The 1/16" rings and the low silicon pistons had too much blow-by before they reached operating temperature. .
|BTW, those pistons use a 1/16" second ring so a 'normal' Pontiac 455 ring set won't work.
Also, the -060 is for a 0.060" oversize piston (Summit's catalog listing makes it look like that p/n is for a standard piston). -030 would be a 0.030" over, etc. So be sure to order the right oversize for your engine. The machinist will need to assess the condition of your block to give you his oversize recommendation.
Then you have to order the pistons and give them to the machinist for him to measure before doing the final hone. The type of ring used (plain, moly, etc.) needs to be known as well so the hone finish is correct for the rings being used.
455 pistons and gaskets
after some advise for my 455 pontiac .has anyone used these pistons they are 0cc to increase compression.also what are some options for thin head gaskets without having to o ring i really appreciate all the help im getting
cheers blake
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{Pages 381-387}
Translated by Hershl Hartman [Reported by David Mladinov, 17, born and raised in Slutsk; son of local cobbler Benjamin Mladinov. Escaped from Slutsk on the day of the liquidation action, hiding around Slutsk as a Russian. Crossed front lines via Bialystok.]
There were about 12,000 Jews in Slutsk, Bobruysk Region, at the start of the war, among them refugees from Poland who came in 1939.
The German occupation of Slutsk began on May 7, 1941 [actually, June 26]. Rumors immediately began to spread and the Germans themselves began tosay that all Jews would be annihilated. There were also some cases of Germans shooting Jews who had said something that displeased them. Jews lived in their own homes in town for the first seven months. The Germans forced them to perform all sorts of hard labor, such as building German homes, road paving, etc. While working, they were tortured and beaten with knouts and gun-butts. The tombstones of the Jewish cemetery were uprooted to provide the foundations for four large German homes.
On a Sunday around November, 1941, a Lithuanian military detachment arrived to carry out an action[1] against the Jews. During the day, squads encircled the city while the others went from house to house seeking out Jews. Those caught at home or on the streets were shot on the spot, their belongings stolen. Some 500 Jews were killed that day in the course of a few hours. The others managed to hide. The Lithuanian detachment was withdrawn after the action. The Slutsk Jews were locked into two ghettoes in January, 1942. One ghetto, outside town, enclosed no more than 1,000 children, the agéd, sick, handicapped, single, common laborers. Some 40 houses in the center of town constituted the second ghetto, in which were crammed some 5,000 families.
Both ghettoes were surrounded by triple-rowed, electrified barbed wire.
The ghetto of the common laborers was liquidated in May, 1942. The Germans suddenly surrounded the ghetto. All the Jews were loaded into trucks and taken outside of town where they were all shot, according to reports gathered from the local population. The exact location of the slaughter is unknown to the reporter.
The second ghetto was liquidated a half-year later, around Nov. 8, 1942. An augmented Lithuanian guard force had encircled the ghetto on November 7, allowing no one to leave. On the morning of the 8th, the Lithuanians began taking truckloads of Jews outside of town. They harassed the Jews in many horrible ways: tearing children from their hiding mothers, shooting them on the spot; small children thrown to the ground and killed, etc. At that time, some ten armed Jews opened fire on the Germans. Wishing to avoid further resistance, the Germans decided to burn down the ghetto and its Jews.
Benzene was spread on all the houses and ignited. The greatest part of the Jews perished in the flames. The others were shot outside of town, where graves had been dug in the bogs.
A small number of Jews, some 25 men, managed to escape through the fence at the time of the second action. Most joined the partisan bands[2] around Slutsk. Among the survivors are Galanson (son), 18 years old, Galanson (mother), 35 years old.
Signature of eyewitness Mladinov. Bialystok, May 31, 1945. Transcribed: Chair of the Regional Historical Commission (Yad Vashem Archive, Num. 1317/M11). Bialystok, May 31, 1945 Transcribed by Sh. Shteynman.
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You want to know the circumstances of our mother's death. I was not in Slutsk at the time. I returned to Slutsk two months later. I was told that she lived with the family of a girl I was to marry, had the war not destroyed our plans. In addition to her parents, the girl had three brothers. They supported our mother quite honorably despite their own desperate condition. People have told me that often a day's food was a potato's peeling. Mostly, they starved to death.
This was Monday, October 12, 1941. When the word Monday was heard by a Slutsk Jew, a shudder would assail him because several horrible Mondays ensued before the final annihilation. There were many naive people who believed that they would be spared. Many Jews in Slutsk were executed for alleged reasons: for refusing an order, on an informant's word, etc. There were many varied orders: 1) Jews were not allowed to trade in the market square or with each other; 2) walking on the sidewalk was forbidden; 3) Jews had to have their hair close-cropped; 4) hats to be doffed before every German; 5) one's coat had to have sewn-on, front and back, a yellow patch in the shape of the Star of David; 6) Jews were not to speak to any non-Jews. Who can count the many other ridiculous orders?
Failure to obey such orders meant a death sentence. There was no ghetto in Slutsk until that Monday. Jews and non-Jews had lived wherever they wanted.
There were large barracks past Vigoda Street where, pre-war, our military forces were housed. The Nazis settled many Jews into them, including Hannah and her children (two girls and a boy). Our mother and the family were on Monakhov Street (where the prison is).
Mother's health condition was never quite good. How could she feel in those bitter days? On the Friday before that Monday, Hannah came running, sobbing. Her elder daughter, Khaye, had bought an apple at the market and was caught in that crime
The next day, on the Sabbath, our mother was told that all the Jews in the barracks (of course, including Hannah and the
children) had been taken off somewhere. It was no secret to anyone that they had been slaughtered. Such good news confined mother more firmly in her sick bed.
On Monday, October 27, 1941, when Jews awakened before dawn, they learned that the entire city was surrounded by Germans, armed with heavy and light machine guns. When the sun was well up, large trucks pulled up into which Jews were tossed. The panic was indescribable. People scurried about like mice. The chase after Jews was on. Anyone trying to escape was fired
Blood flowed in the streets. The trucks laden with Jews were driven out of town toward the Baranovitsh Road. Mass graves were waiting there. The Jews were machine-gunned, the ground torn up by grenades, victims buried, even those who were only wounded. This went on until mid-day. The so-called Regional Commissar arrived and ordered that Jews were not to be taken out of town butkilled right there in the barracks on Vigoda Street.
The family with which mother had been staying fell apart and was dispersed. Agirl hid atop the heating oven, covered in rags, while mother lay helpless in bed. A Nazi soldier burst in, tugged at mother and ordered her to walk. Seeing that she really couldn't move, he brought in a Jew whom he ordered to carry her to the truck.
(This was related by the girl who lay hidden on the oven.)
Thus the Jews were brought to the barracks. Mother tossed all night on the floor, coughing and near death. There wasn't any water to wet her parched lips.I was told this by Leah, the shveznerin [shvegerin sister-in-law?] who had survived until then and who in time was killed with her daughters and sons-in-law.
The next morning, October 28, a commission arrived and began sorting people into two groups, to the right and to the left right to live and left, to die.
Our mother was ordered to the left. The condemned were taken out of town.
I promised to describe what I lived through during our tragedy.
Writing about it is impossible, yet I try to toss some words on paper.
The war began on the 22nd of June and by nine o'clock that night the enemy was bombing Slutsk. The border [with Nazi-occupied Poland] was only 30 kilometers from town and on the 23rd to the 25th of June 1939 [should read: 1941] the Germans bombarded Slutsk day and night. Every corner of the city burned. Zaretse Street was aflame. The flames had not yet reached our street. Our mother said that our little street would not burn because a great holy man had predicted that no fire would ever afflict our street. Our mother and manyother Slutsk Jews believed in this. Communications by radio, telephone, rail, and the electrical grid had beensevered by the enemy.
During the first days we had no idea what was happening in the world; one only sought shelter from the bombs. People ran out into the fields, to the nearby surrounding villages. No one yet thought of leaving Slutsk entirely. No one expected the Germans to be this close to town. On the last day, when the situation became much clearer, the exodus began, some toward Bobruysk, some toward Minsk.
The Germans, however, outdistanced them, and most returned. Our mother and I were out in the fields on the first days. Mother was a sick woman, so living in the fields was difficult for her, so she asked to die, at least, in her own bed in her own home.
When we returned home, the house was in ruins. The bomb explosions had caused the window frames to fly out; pieces of the walls hung as if by threads. Mother said: in the end, one is somehow at home, not on bare ground. I could hand her a glass of warm tea to relieve her cough.
At 5:00 A.M. on June 26, upon leaving the house, I heard heavy gunfire coming from the railroad station. Dead silence ruled over the town. I told mother that the Germans were in town and that I had to escape because they would kill me. Mother asked, And what will happen to me? I replied that they would not harm women and children. I really believed that.
I could not stay with mother. She suffered from shortness of breath and had tostop to rest every three steps. It was terrible for me, but I had no alternative but to leave her with an old woman, a neighbor on our street, who was also ill. I went off to find other neighbors and a girl I knew, asking them to care for mother and not to desert her.
With a pained heart I decided to head toward Mozir through fields and forests, rather than along the roads which the enemy was bombarding day and night. His tanks and machine guns cut off all traffic to Bobruysk and Minsk. I arrived at Lyuban at 3:00 AM and could see the flames devouring Slutsk, Uretsha, Stari-Doroga and many other villages and towns. I made it to Kapatkevitsh after another 24 hours. Everything there was still in order. Trains were running. the civilian population had been evacuated. I reported to a mobilization point, from which I was sent to an artillery division.
We fought a two-month defensive action at Pinsk, though Minsk, Slutsk, Bobruysk, Smolensk and Homel had fallen. We were ordered to retreat to avoid the danger of encirclement. German bombardment dogged our every step. People fell like flies and our detachments were surrounded.
In a Ukrainian village I exchanged my uniform for old, tattered civilian clothes and decided to cross enemy lines to our side. I wandered across Ukraine for ten weeks. On foot, I crossed the districts of Tshernigov, Poltava, Dniestr-Petrovsk. I would cover 30, 40, 50 kilometers per day in hunger, cold and lice. A mishmash ruled: people wandering about, some trying to cross the front lines to get home. I would go through fields and villages that the Germans had settled.
I appeared everywhere as a Christian, because harboring Jews was a capital offense. The Germans had organized police forces in the towns, manned by Russian traitors, yet I had to go through them to get food to survive.
Once I was followed through a town by police. What could I do? I saw a wide river ahead of me! I was able to leap and dance from one to another of the river's ice floes, falling to my knees more than once, but reaching the opposite bank. My trackers were not that anxious to risk their lives.
Another time I was held by police and as they were taking me to the German commandant, I bought my freedom with my watch and the bit of money I still possessed, thereby saving myself from certain death.
I tried again to find some way to beat a path back home. After another three weeks of wandering the roads not spending a night where I'd been by day, risking my life daily, plus suffering from hunger and cold I was caught again. I was taken to a prisoner-of-war camp in Kanatop: an open field surrounded by barbed wire, guarded by Germans with machine guns. Thousands of people languished there without water or food. Each morning some of the dead bodies were removed. In many cases, soft tissue had been cut out, indicating the possibility of cannibalism. I somehow managed to tear an exit through the barbed wire and escaped during a dark, rainy night.
Ten days later I was captured again and taken to a prison in Rugatshov.
I managed to escape from that hell-hole, as well. This was in mid-December. I was almost completely naked: torn galoshes on my feet, trousers and jacket torn and completely lice-ridden. Life had become deadly. My only hope was to make it to the Belorussian forests to join a partisan brigade. I headed toward Slutsk.
Somehow, after much pain and little joy, I reached Slutsk.
I could not find our mother. There were many Jews in town. There were many dear friends who helped me. Some gave me shoes; others, underwear, a jacket, pants, etc. Starving, they shared their last morsel.
Most Jews then were still not in the ghetto. It was being set up when I returned to Slutsk. Large numbers of Jews were gathered into the area where the synagogues had been. The area was fenced-in by boards topped with barbed wire. Armed police stood guard in a watch tower. Every Jew was required to have a passport issued by the German authorities. Since I didn't have such a passport, people feared letting me spend the night in their homes. I had to sleep in the streets for some ten nights.
By then it was early January, 1940 [should read: 1942]. I obtained the passport of a Jew who had been killed and lived all that time with it.
At the time there were two ghettoes in Slutsk: one for skilled workers, the second for ordinary Jews. It was believed that the first was for living, the other for dying. I thought that, in the end, all the Jews would be annihilated. So I tried to rest a bit and regain my strength after my long stroll through Russia. I sought work that would at least save me from hunger. By great good fortune I got a job in a German restaurant. I feared staying that is, sleeping in the ghetto, because I knew it was a death chamber. There was an order posted everywhere that if a Jew were to be caught outside the ghetto, he would be hanged. Still, I did not go into the ghetto. There was a ruined, water-filled cellar at the restaurant where I worked, so I chose a spot that was somewhat dry and fit it out with boards and straw. When it was time to go home, i.e., to the ghetto, I would seize a moment when, sight unseen, I could duck into the cellar to spend the night. At dawn, I would crawl out, again seen by no one. The Germans with whom I worked believed that I slept in the ghetto.
Thus I slept in the cellar throughout the winter. When it grew warmer I slept in an attic over a horse stall near the restaurant. I was the only Jew who worked there. The others were Christians. Outdoors, men would saw and chop wood and, indoors, women would peel potatoes, cook, bake, clean the floors.
The restaurant owners were German Red Cross workers. My work consisted of stoking the oven fires, warming the kettles, seeing to it that wood and water were on hand. I was fully trusted. Not only was I sated, but I was able to provide food for many friends. Most especially, the family with whom mother had stayed. They had a large family of six. The Germans would supply a laborer with 200 grams of bread per day. If I had not helped the family they would have starved to death.
There were two radios in the restaurant. At 5:00 AM I would quietly tune in the latest news from Moscow and pass it on to the ghetto. It was dangerous but it needed to be done. The Germans were spreading rumors that Moscow and Leningrad had fallen and the Bolsheviks were kaput.
In 1942 the partisans let themselves be heard and I sought a connection with them in order to escape to the forests. I did not succeed. The restaurant was located on Proletarsk Highway, where there had once been the Kraynes Club, and the restaurant controlled a liyednik[3] [ice house?] on Kafashke Street. The
liyednik was covered by a roof that formed an attic three-quarters of a meter high. There was no access to the attic. The keys to the liyednik were always in my care. I raised a plank in the ceiling of the liyednik as a means of entrance and began to store food there: about four kilos of sugar, four kilos of margarine, four kilos of preserves, four bottles of 100-proof rum, four kilos of rice. I did not have any opportunity to store bread. It was summertime. I endeavored to establish contact with the partisans but I did not succeed, and so the summer passed.
I worked at the restaurant exactly a year's time, from February 1942 to February 1943.
On February 8, 1943, I followed my usual procedure, leaving my secret abode and starting to stoke the ovens and the kettles. The Russian women who worked with me arrived with the news that German forces had surrounded the ghetto. It was clear to me that the last Slutsk Jews were to be annihilated.
The ghetto of the non-productive Jews had been annihilated and slaughtered in the winter of 1942. I did not give it a second thought, grabbed from the restaurant's pantry ten loaves of bread, each 1-1/2 kilos, and escaped into my hiding place. The monsters set fire to the ghetto on all sides and those who weren't incinerated were shot by machine guns. Armed Germans stood for ten days to make sure that there weren't any Jews who might have hidden somewhere. Anyone who showed himself did not emerge alive. Despite the fact that I was born in Slutsk, I did not know even the nearest surrounding villages and did not know how to make my way through the nearby woods. It was dangerous to walk on the roads. The only alternative was to wait until the weather turned warmer. So I stayed in my hiding place in the attic until April 15, almost 24 [should read: 4] months. No living person knew where I was. I cut the bread into tiny slices. At first, I would eat somewhat more, then reduced it to 50 grams per day, a spoonful of sugar, a spoonful of preserves, and a bit of margarine.
During the extreme cold I would take a bit of rum. For water, I would take a bit of ice from the liyednik, cut it up and sucked on it as it dissolved in my mouth. The cold was so severe that the skin on my feet peeled off. Fortunately, I had stored straw and a cotton coat that kept me somewhat warm, but when I tried to walk, I could hardly drag my feet. One could only sit or lie in that little attic.
For the first month I would only sit or lie. It then occurred to me that, in time, I would be unable to walk. I would let myself down into the liyednik at night and stamp my feet here and there for about half an hour. The situation was dangerous, because this was right in the center of town. If I emerged, I would surely be caught. I feared I might go mad in my solitude. To pass the time, I carved a chess game out of little boards (I just happened to have a penknife) and I would play chess with myself for five or six hours a day. Luckily, I also had a copy of Tolstoy's War and Peace. I determined a quota of pages I would read each day, reading slowly, word by word, quietly. When I finished the book, I started over again. I had no pencil, so I used the penknife to mark the days
and dates of the month.
I crawled out of my hiding place on April 15th. I decided to emerge during the day, because there was a curfew at night and I would surely be shot. I thought I would not be recognized because I had grown a terribly large beard, like a sixty year-old man, but many did recognize me. A Christian woman ran off to the gendarmerie to announce that a Jew had appeared in town. They searched from me in every corner of town, but I was sitting in the municipal park for three hours, trying to figure out where I might go. It was this that saved me. I went off wherever my eyes would lead me.
I walked for four nights until I came into a forest. I ate the rice that I had stored in the attic. I cooked the cereal in a preserves can. I had all of three matches and, when they ran out, I found a little stone on the path, made a wick from my cotton coat. I struck a fire with my steel penknife.
I wandered in the forest for five days until by chance I came across a small group of seven partisans.
My heart rejoiced at being among my own, free people. Together, we marched, ate, dreamt, joined a partisan detachment.
Now I want to live, to take revenge on the murderers.
I lived through so much! Was it possible? Is this the bitter truth? The Slutsk community is wiped out. Where are the Jews of Slutsk?
* (pp. 386-387)
On the Fourth of April, 1942, a group of more than 20 people, led by Israel Lapidus, left the Minsk ghetto and went off to the woods near Slutsk.
Felye Vaynberg of Lodz escaped in January of 1943 from a slave-labor camp in Svyerzhani and joined the Zhukov partisan division in the Slutsk area. Several times she entered Slutsk, disguised and dressed as a peasant-woman, reconnoitering and familiarizing herself with the possibility of blowing up the large sawmill that provided building materials for the battlefront.
She completed her task outstandingly, bringing back an accurate map of the entire area and of the factory.
In May, 1943, she volunteered to blow up the Slutsk electrical station and the sawmill.
She again dressed as a peasant-woman, hiding a revolver in her basket, and placing a loaf of bread containing a mine among various vegetables.
When she was five km. from the village of Gresk, a peasant recognized her and turned her over to the Germans.
After suffering great pain and torture, she was publicly hanged in Slutsk.
Misha Oytser of Ostrog (Volhynia), commander of a group in the Zhukov division, captured Germans on the Slutsk-Minsk highway and killed them on the spot. (As reported in the book by M. Kahanovitsh, Jewish Participation in the Partisan Movement.)
Two Germans Confess to Slaughter of Jews in Slutsk (p. 387)
Kassel, West Germany, Aug. 10, 1960 Two former German policemen, arrested several months ago, today admitted their role in the murder of about 700 Jews in the town of Slutsk.
The Jews were slaughtered like cattle in the Slutsk blood-bath on October 27, 1941, prosecutor Robert Hoppke declared.
The accused are: Franz Lechtroller, 69 years old, and Willi Papenkort, 51 years old.
Both declared that, under pressure of orders, they participated as part of two German police detachments and a Lithuanian detachment.
The prosecutor reported that the Lithuanians shot the Jews men, women and children while the German police prevented anyone from escaping.
The accused Papenkort claimed that he had stopped the slaughter because he could not bear seeing it anymore.
Honored unknown friends,
Your letter of last May arrived in February We have done what you asked. My husband and I did not know your relatives, but with [the information in] your letter we inquired among others, Jews who knew your family.
Your brother and his family escaped from Slutsk so they are alive. They asked acquaintances for help in obtaining permission to return to Slutsk. But since it is wintertime and there is a housing shortage in Slutsk, permission to return has been delayed until May Your sister and her husband and their children sadly perished. They survived until February 8, 1943, when all the Slutsk Jews perished.
Your sister's husband was an expert tailor. Such Jews were used until the final pogrom.
One Jew escaped the slaughter, Berl Kolbasnik, also a tailor. He reports that he worked with your brother-in-law until the final moment. I live a solitary existence, almost the only survivor of a large family.
Recently, I discovered another bereaved brother who lost his wife and five children, a daughter-in-law and two grandchildren.
He lives 40 kilometers from here. We often meet and mourn together.
I beg you to speak with my relatives and tell them not to forget me and to write to me from time to time.
That is our only consolation and hope: to hear a good word from afar.
With thanks in advance, Leah Sheyfer
Editorial note: The following [should read: preceding] letter is one of the first to relate the destruction of Slutsk. An uncle of the writer, in New York, had the letter (from Slutsk) published in New York Yiddish newspapers. On that basis, Avrom Mayzl wrote to the woman, inquiring about his relatives in Slutsk. The letter is the reply to his inquiry.
Sonya Rakhlin/W O E ! (p.387)
Without a shroud and without a prayer,
Lacking even a grave.
Not covered, not buried
Our ashes, strewn by the winds.
Goethe, Schiller, Schopenhauer,
Come and see the great fire
Of bones burned to ash.
You, the folk of art and knowledge,
See the bloody rivers flowing,
And sympathy from no one?
Words, words, lovely letters.
Desolate sounds are curses.
Woe! Our faith annihilated
And the grave our exile.
p. 381 Drawn by the surviving boy from Slutsk, Khayim Rusak, who now lives in Israel. [The cursive Yiddish letters in the drawing read: Slutsk.]
p. 384 German tanks around Slutsk. The town is immersed in flames and columns of smoke. (A radio-photo from the New York Times, Tuesday, July 22nd, 1941.)
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8 comments:
- Rich Pasco said...
It may be worth noting that the point at which beverages are limited to 3.4 oz is at the security checkpoint. As far as I know, there is no problem with carrying on larger size beverages purchased in the airport secure area (beyond the checkpoint). It also seems to be OK to take empty beverage bottles of any size through the checkpoint and then fill them in the secure area (e.g. at a drinking fountain).
- August 13, 2013 at 10:01 PM
- Anonymous said...
Can you explain why a pie is allowed but other items with far less liquid or gel content are prohibited?
Also, why is one 500 mL bottle of water prohibited, but five 100 mL bottles of water allowed? The volume of liquid is the same. I can put the 500 mL bottle of water into a plastic baggie if that makes you feel safer.
- August 14, 2013 at 8:58 AM
- Anonymous said...
Gee, Curtis, I thought you were changing the policy on knives. Has there been a change in your plans? Can you do a blog post about it?
- August 14, 2013 at 9:03 AM
- Anonymous said...
The number of comments from the American public that you are censoring is increasing.
Still haven't seen a blog post about the GAO report on TSA employee misconduct. Not even the expected propaganda.
- August 14, 2013 at 7:44 PM
- Anonymous said...
So I asked this before, but was not answered: Why is stick deodorant not limited in size, but gel or cream is? Your argument for the illogical liquid rules is that you don´t know if the liquids are explosives. But how do you know the stick deodorant isn´t an explosive? Explosives can easily be solidified too (think TNT).
Limiting a whole state of matter makes no sense.
- August 15, 2013 at 5:47 AM
- RB said...
"A Lexington Blue Grass Airport TSA manager charged with sexually abusing a female employee has resigned.
According to court documents, the victim told police Shane A. Hinkle, 38, touched her breasts and put his hand down her pants twice on two separate occasions, the first on July 31 and the second time on Aug. 4. The citation indicates the incidents both happened at the airport, and the acts on Aug. 4 were recorded on video."
So another TSA TSM goes down. How many before TSA realizes there is a serious unaddressed problem at TSA?
Also, how come it's a crime for this TSA employee to stick his hands in a TSA employees pants but when done to a passenger it's ok?
TSA can sexually assault passengers but not themselves.
And regardless of what TSA claims, the action of a single employee does impact all other TSA employees.
TSA is not trusted.
TSA is abusive.
TSA screening is excessive.
- August 15, 2013 at 2:27 PM
- Anonymous said...
TSA San Jose should get some training from PDX! Since when are First Class ticket holders given additional privileges over others by TSA?
- August 16, 2013 at 5:04 PM
- Lauren Smith said...
It is a a must consider list while packing. Apart from deodorant, one need to take care of cosmetics and medicines while packing. I personally had some bad experience with these items
- August 17, 2013 at 4:25 AM


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Hull Speed
The authority that Duane cited said "it all depends on displacement." If we assume that is true, just for the sake of argument, then the one quality that distinguishes a heavy displacement boat from a light displacement boat is that the heavy boat moves more water out of its way than the latter. If the hull has to move more water out of its way, more energy is used up to drive the hull through the water. Perhaps a light displacement boat is capable of pushing its own, smaller, bow wave through the water at a faster speed than a heavy displacement boat can push its bigger bow wave through the water, using the same amount of energy. I don''t know whether this reasoning is correct, but it seems to be consistent with what you and Duane''s authority are both saying.
Also, Duane''s authority says, "Everyone is familiar with Anthony Deane''s original formula for heavy displacement hulls, and people are slow to catch that non-planing boats go faster than Deane''s formula predicts, despite our observations that boats sometimes do go faster than they''re supposed to." You said, "Waterline''s affect on hull speed is theoretical and not absolute." Is this an indication that, as boat design becomes more sophisticated, the authorities are coming to the conclusion that Deane''s formula should only be taken as an approximation, and that, with future advances in boat design, the upper limits of speed can be raised, and that perhaps Deane''s formula itself should be modified to reflect current technology and thinking? This would certainly explain the huge amount of anecdotal evidence that boats do in fact exceed the speeds predicted by Deane''s formula, without planing.
Hull Speed
This is a good discussion but a couple points here.
While some boats with long over hangs increase in speed as the boat heels not all do. In the current thinking, the boats that do increase in speed, do not increase in speed because the waterline is getting longer as previously thought, but because the counter is submerged increasing the buoyance aft and helping prevent the stern from squatting.
Moving crew forward as a boat comes off the top of a wave can help a boat surf sooner. (Similar to walking toward the front of a surfboard.)
I think that it is not just a matter of lower displacements per se but the degree of fineness of the bow and stern. There are boats that are considered semi-planing or semi-displacement hulls. These boats easily achieve speeds well over the theortical 1.34 times the square root of the waterline length. The issue that creates hull speed is about the energy required to push a boat against the resistance of its own combined bow and stern wave. When you talk about semi-displacement hulls great effort is made to reduce the height of the bow and stern wave at speed so that while the boat may not actually climb up on its own combined bow and stern wave (i.e. plane) it takes less energy to overcome the drag of its own combined bow and stern wave. Typically these are boats with comparatively fine bows and waterline beams, comparatively shallow canoe bodies and fairly powerful stern sections. If you look at most IMS typeform boats or the Volvo Ocean race boats that is where they get their speeds well in excess of the theoretical 1.34 number. Almost all catamarrans do not plane but infact get their speed though small wave making (i.e. semi-planning).
Hull Speed
Thank you all for your very informative responses.
Jeff H., you said: "The waterline length is thought to limit the hull speed because if the boat goes any faster the stern wave has to move further back taking the trough between it and the bow wave along with it. As the trough moves aft, it causes the stern to drop, making the boat sail uphill [A] boat with extra volume in the stern can exceed its theoretical hull speed because the extra bouyancy prevents the stern from dropping into the trough." That seems to suggest that you should move crew weight forward whenever the boat is nearing hull speed. By doing so, you lift the stern slightly, making the boat ride in the water as if it has more buoyancy in the stern, and deterring the stern from dropping into the trough. Is that correct, or am I missing something?
In the materials submitted by Duane, the author says, "The formulas show that lower displacements permit higher speeds without actually planing." That really puzzles me, because if the speed of a displacement boat is limited by the fact that it can only climb up over its own bow wave when it is planing, then logically it seems that the only way that the boat could go faster without planing is if the bow wave itself moves faster through the water. So, does anyone know if the bow wave of a light displacement boat (which is presumably smaller than the bow wave of a heavy displacement boat of the same length) moves faster through the water than the bow wave of a heavy displacement boat? Or, is there some other explanation that I am missing?
Hull Speed
Greetings, Dean.
I did a quick google search on the topic and the best I could find was the snippet (from http://potter-yachters.org/manyways/hullspeed) you''ll find below.
Please keep in mind that I''m not in a position to debate the subject on too technical a level since my fluid mechanics courses were long ago and not of much use here anyway. Since I have not read Gerr''s book, I can''t say what assumptions were used to derive the formula.
Fair winds,
[start snippet]
But just how fast can a monohull boat be expected to go? It all depends on displacement -- more specifically on the D/L ratio (i.e., how heavy the boat is compared to the LWL). Naval architect Dave Gerr worked out the relationship, one of the great accomplishments in modern naval engineering. (David Gerr: Nature of Boats, McGraw-Hill; Offshore, Dec. 94, pp 29-33)
D/L ratio = D[in long tons, 2240 pounds]/(0.01 x LWL)^3.
S/L ratio = 8.26 /(D/L ratio)^0.311
The formulas show that lower displacements permit higher speeds without actually planing. Everyone is familiar with Anthony Deane''s original formula for heavy displacment hulls, and people are slow to catch that non-planing boats go faster than Deane''s formula predicts, despite our observations that boats sometimes do go faster than they''re supposed to.
[end snippet]
Hull Speed
Hull Speed
If a boat has a waterline length of 25 feet on her feet and you heel that boat such that there is now 27 feet in the water, you still have waterline length. The formula doesn''t specify how you get waterline length, just that you have it. When the boat heels, you change the waterline length. It is now 1.34 times the square root of 27 feet instead of 25 feet. Sail boats heel. The increase in waterline length with heeling is one thing that accounts for some people finding that they get more hull speed underway than they calculate sitting on the dock on the basis of the manufacturers stated designed waterline length. Of course there are factors that cause variation between boats such that the 1.34 may not produce exact hull speed of a given boat. But it is close. The boat is in the trough between the bow and stern waves and is trapped by it unless it can plane, no matter what that wave length is. The only way the D/L could influence hull speed is if you increase the D without increasing the sail area. It is assumed, no matter what the hull form, that you have enough power to reach the theoretical hull speed. Light boats are more easily driven, but they still make waves when the go through the water.
Hull Speed
I don''t have the reference book in front of me, so forgive me if I am wrong here.
I believe that the factor we are discussing (1.34 plus or minus) has been expressed as a function of the displacement-length ratio, although I doubt that this is absolute, either.
I suspect (but can''t prove) that the design parameters found on most boats with low D/L ratios contribute to factors higher than 1.34 and conversely for the designs of the high D/L boats. Of course, SailorMitch''s point about the waterline length change can be significant, as well.
Hull Speed
The time honored standard is 1.34 times the square root of the static waterline as a starting point for discussing hull speed. That doesn''t change with the point of sail. But the length of the waterline can change (lengthen) as a boat heels over, so yes, the boat can go faster than the standard 1.34 times it''s static waterline because guess what...........the waterline suddenly got longer!
And yes, some boats can do better than 1.34, and some can''t. My little 27 footer has exceeded it''s theoretical hullspeed for extended periods on several occasions, primarily downwind or reaching. The most recent time it turned out to be 1.7 times the static LWL.
Bottom line -- use 1.34 as the starting point, knowing up front that it may be high or low for a particular boat. Let''s don''t make this more difficult than it has to be.
Hull Speed
Duh. One assumes a standard hull form for discussion purposes. One assumes the boat isn''t round, square, diamond shaped, etc. Fat, skinny, the parameters shift, but they don''t change. Ocean racers have macro-dinghy hulls and surf in the roaring forties. A Tornado will do 1.7 times the windspeed on a broad reach. A ridable bow wave skews it. Trapped! Trapped like a rat! In a wave of its own making!
Hull Speed
Oh I am so sorry Dallas,I am afraid that is not the correct answer, Bert, tell him what he would have won!....OK seriously, Dallas has it mostly right. I am quoting here:
"Waterline''s affect on hull speed is theoretical and not absolute. As a hull goes faster, the bow wave stretches to the point where the bow and stern wave become on wave cycle, whose wavelength is equal to the waterline length. This brings us to wave theory. "
"The speed of a wave (in knots) is equal to the square root of the wavelength (in feet) multiplied by 1.34. If your boat has a waterline length of 32 feet, the theoretical hull speed is 7.6 knots. The waterline length is thought to limit the hull speed because if the boat goes any faster the stern waves has to move further back taking the trough between it and the bow wave along with it. As the trough moves aft, it causes the stern to drop, making the boat sail uphill."
"Except for planning designs, sailboats typically can''t generate enough power to go any faster and climb their own bow wave. But a boat with extra volume in the stern can exceed its theoretical hull speed because the extra bouyancy prevents the stern from dropping into the trough. By the same token, a fine-ended design might not achieve its theoretical hull speed if buoyancy in the stern is insufficient." (Written by Steve Killing and Doug Hunter)
In looking at the more recent data it is not all that unusual to achieve speeds that are 1.5 times the square root of the waterline. It is harder to achieve higher speeds upwind since there are generally less drive upwind than when reaching. My boat generally goes upwind in windspeeds over 10 knots at 1.5 to 1.6 times the square root of her waterline at wnd angles as close a s50 degrees true. Newer more efficient designs will often do better than that.
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bioman911 wrote:New Duck hunt preserve coming to Georgia in the Bulloch county area. Will let everyone know when it is to open. First hunt will be in middle or late Dec. Watch for up coming info on this forum.
bioman911 wrote:To answer your question the ducks are per released so meeting the limit will have to do with your shoot, but the birds will be their for your hunting enjoyment, I believe you will be very surprised with the amount of birds we will have for you. Looking forward to seeing. Stay tune for the dates of grand opening.
krazybronco2 wrote:bioman911 wrote:To answer your question the ducks are per released so meeting the limit will have to do with your shoot, but the birds will be their for your hunting enjoyment, I believe you will be very surprised with the amount of birds we will have for you. Looking forward to seeing. Stay tune for the dates of grand opening.
what kind of ducks will you be pre releasing also is it a pay by the bird kinda shoot (shoot 3 then have to pay an additional fee for each bird) or pay for one hunt and you get to shoot a true limit of 6 ducks (according to regs of course)
bioman911 wrote:Yes we buy the birds and we have different ponds for them to live in and fly in to eat, We are trying to give and fun hunt where the hunters able to see and shoot the Mallards coming in no they are not wild birds but there are many places that do this style of hunting all over the world, If this is not the type of hunt for you then I understand that but I hope you will still come and join us for some real fun hunts. The birds still fly at 60mph and are very tough to hunt but if anyone just wants to hunt only wild bird I do understand that, We are giving a place for hunters to come and have a great day of hunting, Good place to work your dogs and have a day of pristine hunting,
bioman911 wrote:I can tell you that no duck we have will be clipped in any way they are tagged but that is my law and we would do that anyway just so we could keep up with where they are going if they leave, We are opening this for people that want to hunt and if this type of hunting is not for you I understand that and you would not need to come here to hunt, Everyone has there own way of doing things so I wish you well on you hunts and if you would like to come hunt with us we would be glad to have you,
Thank you for your comments.
bioman911 wrote:Yes I did mean Banding and we are following every law to the letter, Thank you for your post because I want everyone to know that we are trying to setup a great place for hunters to come and have a good safe environment to hunt and make friends. I know some hunter don't like this type of hunting but to each his own and I will never argue about the subject so please don't ask me to debate the ideas of released birds over wild bird. I do understand that some people don't like it just as some people don't like eating meat but so people do so please live and let live and God bless all of you and I hope that everybody are able to live free and are proud of our great country.
Thank you
Ringneck wrote:So how do you guys feel about all the released quail in GA that are put out for hunting?
hydrilla wrote:Ringneck wrote:So how do you guys feel about all the released quail in GA that are put out for hunting?
I was invited on a released quail hunt once, and I can say that is not for me either. I didn't particularly want to go then, but a good friend invited me, so I went. I would never go again. I do think there is a difference though. You virtually have no other options for quail in Georgia. Quail release ends up being a put and take system much like a trout stream of striped bass lake. There were plenty of quail when I was a kid, but I never see quail now that everything is a pine thicket. If you want to quail hunt and work you dog, you really don't have any other choice but to hunt released birds. With duck hunting you do have wild birds to hunt. Also, almost all released quail are going to die one way or another, and are limited to the small area in which they were released. Ant impact they have on the environment is localized to a small area. Released ducks on the other can become feral and breed year after year establishing population like what you see on some lakes in the South. They can also fly off and establish a range miles to hundred of miles from where they were released. There is also evidence that feral mallards have affected mottled duck populations in certain area by breeding with the native mottles, and there is some evidence they can carry disease. The big problem I have with tammie mallard shoots is that they shoot them over corn. If I can't shoot wild ducks over hand distributed corn, they shouldn't be able to shoot released ones over corn either. If a wild mallard, gadwall, or ringneck for than matter flies in, you can't tell me it doesn't get shot. You can also shoot as many ducks as you want on a preserve, but if a tammie escapes and establishes itself on a lake it becomes protected. You know a mallard nesting in Georgia in May isn't a migratory bird, yet you can't legally kill it like other non natives like pigeons because it is still protected by the migratory bird act. I have less problem with a pheasant tower shoot(no I've never done one), because at least then any bird that doesn't get shot isn't going to have an effect on any other wildlife, and will simply end up as buzzard or coyote food. Sorry of the long answer, but i did want to answer your question.
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Funny how hunting used to be how poor people ate. Now poor people can't afford it.
I killed a nice one last year (see pic) but went bust this year... Now I am getting ready for deer season!
They can be... or sometimes they wont make a sound and will be on top of you before you know it...It is the most challenging thing I have ever done. It is as addictive as beekeeping!!!


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I'm rather new to the pen test scene. I'm just playing around with PwnOS and Backtrack 4 right now. I did a Nikto scan and got this information:
Anyway, I thought this would be a good thing to exploit (SIPS v0.2.2 allows user account info (including password) to be retrieved remotely). Trouble is that I don't really understand how to execute the exploit. I've looked at some RFI tutorials but I've had no success on the target machine.Code:
root@bt:/pentest/scanners/nikto# perl nikto.pl -h 192.168.3.4 -p 10000
- Nikto v2.1.0
+ Target IP: 192.168.3.4
+ Target Hostname: 192.168.3.4
+ Target Port: 10000
+ Start Time: 2010-04-26 15:16:44
+ Server: MiniServ/0.01
+ No CGI Directories found (use '-C all' to force check all possible dirs)
+ OSVDB-0: DEBUG HTTP verb may show server debugging information
+ OSVDB-877: HTTP TRACE method is active, suggesting the host is vulnerable to XST
+ OSVDB-0: MiniServ - This is the Webmin Unix administrator. It should not be running unless required.
+ OSVDB-0: /sips/sipssys/users/a/admin/user: SIPS v0.2.2 allows user account info (including password) to be retrieved remotely.
+ OSVDB-0: /ht_root/wwwroot/-/local/httpd$map.conf: WASD reveals the http configuration file. Upgrade to a later version and secure according to the documents on the WASD web site.
+ OSVDB-0: /local/httpd$map.conf: WASD reveals the http configuration file. Upgrade to a later version and secure according to the documents on the WASD web site.
+ OSVDB-0: /..\..\..\..\..\..\temp\temp.class: Cisco ACS 2.6.x and 3.0.1 (build 40) allows authenticated remote users to retrieve any file from the system. Upgrade to the latest version.
+ OSVDB-6659: /icH6vqwwEtEVJ2XIyFC3AYHAu8dY0Y6YbrqhSXwsa4DE8ZXayf68tlelLTHZkYzb5hJhoeWmEuFjOTTP8fdDHrIHJ2NXk0a16oa9KHvEGYXqFMJ94eeQGxGbLnq2UfvAzeIh2XCRAoHnUza4Lw5MPMvs3EtLRdMIJcK4tmgcXFUtkgMmi2fMIEqFgPBQ0a4UsANg39e0crlYIoOCPVCQwbfyeOd8ZRv<font%20size=50>DEFACED<!--//--: MyWebServer 1.0.2 is vulnerable to HTML injection. Upgrade to a later version.
+ 3588 items checked: 8 item(s) reported on remote host
+ End Time: 2010-04-26 15:21:16 (272 seconds)
+ 1 host(s) tested
I found this in an exploit db:
SIPS <= 0.3.1 (box.inc.php) Remote File Include VulnerabilityCode:
So for me that url should transform into:I've found out that the I should be able to replace [SHELL] with the remote command I want to execute on the server. Like ../../../../../../../../etc/passwd%00 in order to view the password file.Code:
So, that's where I am now. Later on when I get this to work I'll try and make it execute a script, on my attack machine, granting me shell access on the server.Code:
My questions regards this part: config[sipssys]... What should I replace [sipssys] with? I guess that's the thing I'm missing here.