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- 4 large tomatoes
- 8 green onions
- 2 cans (4 ounces each) chopped green chilies
- 1 can (4-1/4 ounces) chopped ripe olives, drained
- 6 tablespoons cider or red wine vinegar
- 1 tablespoon olive oil
- 1-1/2 to 2 teaspoons garlic powder
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- Chop tomatoes and onions into 1/4-in. pieces; place in a large bowl. Stir in the next five ingredients. Add jalapeno if desired. Cover and refrigerate overnight. Serve with tortilla chips. Yield: 8 cups.
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Hollis/Brookline 3, Concord 1 (25-14, 25-18, 21-25, 25-17): In Concord, Hollis/Brookline (7-8) was led by Savannah Werne (23 kills, six aces) and Bella Zampieri (eight aces, six kills, 10 digs).
Inter-Lakes 3, Belmont 1 (25-16, 28-26, 25-27, 25-19): Inter-Lakes of Meredith improved to 10-3, led by senior captains Jordan Donohue (23 kills, 11 blocks, 10 digs) and Lydia Swedberg (18 digs, 17 service points). Hayley Roth registered 32 assists, eight points and three kills in the win. Also contributing were Victoria Burns (11 digs, nine points) and Jessica Schofield (7 kills, 5 blocks). Belmont (11-2) was led by Megan Bailey (2 aces, 1 kill, 4 digs, 2 blocks, 34 assists), Jessie Bergeron (3 aces, 20 digs), Bridget Annis (8 kills, 3 blocks), Louisa Bergeron (11 kills, 2 blocks) and Alyssa Woods (1 ace, 8 kills).
Portsmouth Christian 3, Raymond 0 (25-14, 25-8 and 25-20): Sheila Tobin led the winners with 14 saves.
Wilton-Lyndeborough 3, Hillsboro-Deering 1 (25-20, 25-8, 19-25, 25-23): In the loss, the Hillcats were led by Ginny Philbrick (eight kills and five aces), Emily Hatcher (six kills, four aces), Dakota Anderson (five digs) and Hannah Pepper with 12 assists.
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BROOKVILLE, N.Y.— Senior Chris Ruhlig (Islip Terrace, N.Y.) and grad student Joe Costello (Minneapolis, Minn.) both powered in four goals apiece to lead the fifth-ranked LIU Post men's lacrosse team to a 15-11 victory over the Molloy College Lions on Saturday afternoon.
The game was part of a fundraiser held during the day as both teams supported "Team Connor". Connor, the son of Molloy alumna Beth Kyranakis Bradley, and family friend of LIU Post senior goalkeeper Tim Bradley, was diagnosed with leukemia on February 10 and is currently undergoing treatment at The Cancer Center for Kids at Winthrop-University Hospital. Connor attended the game and served as an honorary team captain, standing at midfield during the captains meeting and shaking hands with the players post-game.
LIU Post improved to 10-2 overall with the victory and kept a perfect 6-0 ledger in ECC play, while Molloy suffered just its third loss but dropped to 10-3 and 3-3 in conference action.
The Pioneers grabbed a 4-0 lead behind goals from Ruhlig and two from Costello in the early going, but Molloy scored two in the latter half of the first quarter to keep pace with the hosts. Freshman Matty Beccaris (North Babylon, N.Y.) found the back of the net with 32 seconds remaining to give the Pioneers a 4-2 lead at the end of the first.
Molloy tied it up with goals at 14:17 and 8:50 to open the second quarter, and another Ruhlig goal at 7:40 was matched by Molloy's Peter Clark tally at 5:10 and the game was knotted at 5-5.
But the Pioneers scored three of the last four goals before halftime to take an 8-6 lead heading into the break, including a goal by senior defender T.J. McAndrew (Randolph, N.J.) that was just the second of his career.
The Pioneers and Lions traded goals to begin the third quarter, with freshman Anthony Berardis (Mahopac, N.Y.) and Costello accounting for the scores, and at 10:8, after Clark's second goal of the game, the Pioneers had a two-goal lead (10-8). But Ruhlig scored on a Ryan Slane (North Babylon, N.Y.) assist at the one minute mark, and Slane slotted in a goal of his own with just four seconds left in the quarter to extend the Pioneers' lead to 12-8.
Ruhlig scored again at 13:32 to give the Pioneers a 13-8 lead, and the Pioneers were able to withstand a three-goal spurt by Molloy that made the score 13-11, before regaining control of the pace and scoring the last two goals of the day, a Connor Drost (Wading River, N.Y.) tally at 4:36 and another goal by McAndrew into an empty net with 49 seconds left in the contest.
Totals for the game in addition to Ruhlig and Costello's four tallies apiece, saw McDAndrew and Slane each score two goals, while Slane added two assists. Beccaris added one goal and one assist, and Drost scored one goal and assisted on three others.
Bradley earned the victory in goal as he stopped 10 shots in improving to 9-2 on the season. Molloy counterpart John Grebe made 15 saves for the Lions.
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They aren't good and they aren't bad. A growing brain is not going to become warped by using an iPad unless that's all they ever do. Kids learn at an alarming rate. A child who has never encountered a physical photograph - more and more common these days as well as not at all dangerous - will certainly assume the physical photo works like a touchscreen. Once they realize otherwise, they STOP PINCHING. How is a physical photograph more "real" than a digital one? Don't you have to learn how to interact with everything? Kids will adapt. As long as they are getting experience climbing trees and eating dirt as well as playing interactive storybooks on a futuristic device most of us couldn't even dream of as children, they'll be perfectly well rounded.
ARCHA1C wrote:Overreaction.
This is no different than "back in the day" when people would see a Television for the first time, and walk around the back to see if the people were behind it.
It's all about perception, and as humans, those children in the anecdotes will certainly grow to be able to distinguish between reality, and the content on their iPads.
To be "worried" or "concerned" about what's happening to "kids these days" should only serve as an indicator that you are, indeed, getting old.
c911darkwolf wrote:SO my son is 19 months old. I am a Computer Tech with 2 degrees and 4 certifications. My 19 month old son has his own computer. It's a old Pent 4 with a Childs version of Linux installed.
He can navigate and play videos on his own at 19 months.
He is smart enough that he will pick up one of my screw drivers and try to unscrew the back of the computer i'm working on.
Since computers/ipads/technology is only getting greater and more complex it's great he is learning theses skills.
At age 16 while other kids are working fast food, My son will have the skills to setup small business networks making 4x the salary. (yes not hourly wage, i said salary). If he choose not to work in a computer field like his old man. Then NO matter what his career is he will USE COMPUTERS. Blind old foggeys, who can't understand technology will simply be run over by it. My Eletrical system (ac/stove/refrigerator) is monitored by a PC at my house. Its wired right into our Fusebox. Computers will control more and more, and you should give your child a chance to master them early.
As far as technology 1 blinking light is not different then another. Your picking on computers instead of the other 2 dozen eletronics your child prob owns.
All and all.. my 19 month old son loves more then anything else? Push a plastic grocery cart around the living room picking up his toys and putting it in it..
Children will be amazed by technology, but deep down they will act just like our parents when they were children.. Running, playing, discovering!
I concur. when my boy was age 2, I took an Asus eee 7" 900hmz and put a chopped-down linux OS on it, then I loaded it with simple learning games. He loves it. On a road trip just before his 3rd birthday he asked if he could play on my NintendoDSi. I cringed because his sister played with my PALM 10 years ago and stabbed at the screen like Jack-the-Ripper with a prostitute. But I let him try it and he was as gentle with the stylus as a maestro conducting a lullaby. I could tell that it was because he'd been conditioned with the touchpad on the eee. Then when he tried my Android phone the first time, he took to it faster than anything. I think using the finger directly rather than using a stylus or mouse increased the intimacy with the device's actions, same as OP's iPad. It's like the difference between reading a friend's telegram or talking to her on the phone. And you see where the telegram is today, in the obsolete past. The phone won that battle. I understand why kids take to the touch/visual interface so easily. So as insane as it may seem, I bought my 3y.o. an Archos 32 to learn with. And I'm not worried about repercussions. Because 90% of the time, my kid plays the same as kids always have. And because my 12y.o. daughter grew up the same way, but with older technology. And last year she built our HTPC with components from newegg. She did this as a gift to the family. I literally never touched it until it was complete. Feels good.
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●developing cognitive skills is good
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This dude claims iPad's are better than TVs and our kids will only be average if we don't buy them each an iPad today. http://www.cultofmac.com/why-every-child-in-america-needs-an-ipad/93887
"You mean you have to use your hands? That's like a baby's toy"
These are just kids taking advantage of something that has always been there for them. Kinda like electric and cars to us. If left to a power outage I would think most of us could still light a candle or turn on a flash light. It also works to your advantage as my kids have not figured out how to turn the TV on with out the remote.
BALENCE should your kid do nothing but be on technology no, does interacting with it a bit ruin them no paper books alot, e-books every once in a while, The most important part is Talking to your kids and interaction. No matter what your kids are looking at they need time with you!!
I think that concern is a natural part of parenting. I worry not so much about pictures and websites as I do the fact that, unlike tv, radio, books, etc. 'new' technology can be used to replace face to face human interaction. DOn't get me wrong - I love the fact that my 3 yr. old wants to Skype with her aunt that lives 3 hrs away, but it is easy to fall into the habit of 'checking in' with friends/family on fb, skype whatever, and not actually physically spending time with them. I know there's been research done, that echoes that, but I'm certainly not a phD - I just want to make sure my kiddos are computer capable, but not dependant on technology for every aspect of life. You got us all takin! Good post!
I bought my son a 22" Touchsmart PC for this second birthday.
Me doing nothing other than that, and and putting links to www.starfall.com on the desktop, he is now the best five year old reader in all six kindergarten classes.
He also knows all the planets. In order. How to spell them. Their astrological symbols. How many moons they each have. The names of the moons. And the names of about twenty stars in order of the their size.
Oh yeah, he's also autistic.
He learns at such an advanced rate he would require an extremely intelligent adult by his side every waking second of his day to keep up.
Since this is not possible, he looks for other ways to learn.
When I showed him the iPad, he was in love. He can type phrases on the keyboard, play educational (and fun) videos and music, play with "Solar Walk", an app which models the solar system, which is exactly what his young brain wants.
Since I am a good parent, I also use the iPad to teach him about manners, sharing with others, how to deal with disapointment, taking turns, and so on.
Do we use the iPad sometimes as the easy way out?
Sure we do. For instance, we actually just went out, as a family, to a restaurant, and ate an entire dinner without having to leave early apologizing to the manager, for the first time in five years.
You have no idea whatsoever what you give up when you become a parent, and by god, if you can find something which is both educational and entertaining for your kids, you're going to use it.
You can save all the "well MY kids will be different" BS, because that goes right out the window about the time mommy and daddy haven't slept in five weeks.
If you are feeding your child's brain garbage by letting them watch "Cars" on an endless loop, then yes, you will probably end up with a dumb kid with zero attention span.
If you are feeding your child's brain quality information, puzzles, logic, and art, then odds are you will have a smart kid, who in turn won't spoil his own kid's brain with garbage.
This is all a big deal over something most people don't understand or have any experience with.
bsmith1 wrote:Geeze. No pressure, kid. Good luck living up to daddy's expectations! ;)
griffyndor wrote:I am a teacher and I really worry that all the technology is doing them a disservice. We have students who want everything on the computer but they aren't computer literate. They work on presentations and focus more on the pretty aspects than the information. They are caught in a no man's land. They've no idea how to use plain old books to research because they are used to being able to get the answers quickly from google or wiki. They don't understand how to determine whether a source is valid or even what key words will give them the best results. Of course we do what we can to cover all this information but it is time consuming.
I also worry that the creativity is being usurped by instantly gratifying images that are found everywhere. There is no need or desire to read anymore because it takes too long and they can't imagine the scenes. If the student it given free reign to create, they come to a stand still. Guidelines must be explicit or they get frustrated. They want to know how many paragraphs, pages, and pictures and can't imagine doing something until it's done. The minimum amount of work is all they want to do. If you make the mistake of showing an example. Most work returned reflects or outright copies the example.
When it comes to the children I plan to have, my partner and I have discussed holding back on technology. I don't want them using computers, mp3 players, xboxes or the like until they are 10. Even tv viewing will be greatly limited. We want them to play pretend with imaginary friends rather than rely on computers. Then we will gradually introduce tech. Imagination, creative thinking, and problem solving are all important skills that don't seem to readily manifest in an overly technical environment.
what a weirdo.... my 3 yr old only watches nickelodeon, and he does play with my wifes Ipad. He also has been diagnosed with aspergers.
But i can say this for those of you who want to limit your child on Tv's and Computers. my son could say his A,B,C's when he was two years old. count to 20 by two years old, and also count to 10 in spanish.
he also is fluent in certain spanish words, all by just watching Cartoons on Nick.
He knows how to navigate through the Ipad to get to and back from where he wants to go.
And the person complaining about using a computer to due research instead of using a book? how about you hand wash your clothes instead of using the washing machine. i mean that is the old fashion way right?
Yea, i could teach my son all of this but honestly he knows more spanish than i do...
My challenge to many of the comments is this...
When is the last time, as an adult, you went to the library and researched anything via a printed source? Even in College, 95% of my research papers were electronic search based - and that was 20 years ago. Schools use Lexis-Nexis and similar to find authentic validated sources. Unfortunately the ways of the printed research material is going away.
In my age, TV remote controls didnt exist, we had the atari 2600 and commodore 64 which I played with hours on end - all of which my parents obviously didnt have.
Its just the new age of technology - our kids will have far more technology options than we ever did, and their learning to use and embrace it will ony further along their development.
My daughter uses our iPad for flashcards, counting games, memory games, eBooks and more - she's only 20 months old. She knows how to unlock the ipad, change the screen to "her page" of apps and open and close the apps she wants to play. She knows what a greater Kudu is as well as an Okapi because of a jungle app she loves. How can I possibly be upset at that?
We love the iPad for learning and I think its great for our daughter too... and BTW she's also in swim lessons and has a big wheel (which she also loves) - so shes not just glued inside.
ok, so I'm a grandmother who had her kids at the dawn of the personal computer age. You could easily have made the same comments regarding my bringing home the first apple when they were toddlers.
However, the result is that all my kids became literate at an early age and clearly were at an advantage as technology moved forward. We had to deal with video games and so much new "technology" even more revolutionary then the refinements to the systems with regard to realism and touch screens.
It is a widely held belief that the greatest change with regard to achieving success in this world is the brain that is adaptive to rapid change. That is the world we live in.
Those children who are facile and adaptive will thrive.
Am I sad about that reality, will it prevent another Picasso or Faulkner? Who knows. But here we all are so deal with it.
I play with granddaughter on the Ipad. and horrors.. we skype!!!!
lynnpreston wrote:I think the more pressing question is - why does the baby/toddler in the picture appear to be wearing a necklace? Given that we are apparently in parenting critique mode, that necklace appears to be more of a potential danger to the child than some iPad time.
BTW, I feel confident in saying that this is fundamentally the same discussion that was had when the printing press, radio and TV each first appeared.
It's an amber necklace... they're used quite widely in Europe and other places as a home remedy for teething pain. As an infant teacher, I've seen them work wonders for some children. They are worn loose enough so they don't pinch, but tight enough so the child can't chew on them and they're unlikely to catch on things. They're typically removed when the child sleeps. At that age, children should generally be supervised, anyway.
It's been a week since the last comment on this, but I have to get a word in.
chemicallion wrote:And the person complaining about using a computer to due research instead of using a book? how about you hand wash your clothes instead of using the washing machine. i mean that is the old fashion way right?
I guess I'm the only one who agrees with the teacher when I say that the internet is NOT always the most reliable source for research. To my dismay in college, one of my professors banned us from using Wikipedia as a source. I didn't see why... until a few months later when someone decided to put "Elton John" under the list in the "Fruit" entries. It was caught, but not quickly enough. (To say I didn't understand "open source" until then was an understatement, of course.)
Failing to acknowledge/use books for broad middle/junior high/high school topics like "My State's Greatest Hero: (historical figure here)", is really a disservice to those who put the time and effort into writing books about them. There are still legitimate circumstances where internet sources can be used. That's fine. But books are still a vast source of knowledge that cannot always be attained on the internet.
Trial and error will student how to research on the internet. But sometimes it will take a teacher, or someone equally savvy to guide them regarding their results.
And before you get into that whole "Books on Kindle for your Kids", I really must point out that I can't afford a Kindle, so it's not really an option or choice for me. I'm definately going to be encouraging my son to read books as he grows.
I hate to frighten you but the virtual world is becoming the real world.
I have not read every message, but I have read a few.
We are a homeschooling family, and have 5 children. One of our children has congenital brain damage and is non-verbal. The iPad has been a savior for him. He can now tell us WHAT he wants to eat, that his head hurts, why he's crying, etc. He doesn't have enough fine motor skills to sign intelligibly (yet), and the iPad has given him a voice.
Our other kids play with it as well, but it isn't theirs.
With the sheer number of cheap netbooks my kids have destroyed, there's no f***ing way they are getting iPads until they can give me some clear warning that they're about to puke.
my brother is autistic and that's a bunch of crap. he has no friends now because he's replaced human interaction with computers.
way to go giving your kid a head start at being alienated from the real world.
bsmith1 wrote:
"If anything, these kids will grow up with a head-start having a mindset of how technology can improve our otherwise boring environment."
Wait, what? What "otherwise boring environment" are you talking about? Life? I don't have a strong stance on this issue overall, but I certainly take issue with calling the world we live in "boring."
My kid can spend 30 minutes building with Legos or climbing a tree or watching ants carrying stuff. Sometimes he chooses to spend that time playing with his DS. The technology option is not better or worse. It's just one option in many.
lynnpreston wrote:I think the more pressing question is - why does the baby/toddler in the picture appear to be wearing a necklace? Given that we are apparently in parenting critique mode, that necklace appears to be more of a potential danger to the child than some iPad time.
I feel confident in saying that the necklace you are referring to is actually made of natural amber stones and helps to diminish pain/symptoms associated with teething. It is a natural way to help with the pain, drooling, fevers rather than pumping kids full of tylenol, motrin, or whatever else. It also has a breakaway clasp so that if there is too much pressure put on it, it will break off. Lastly, each stone is individually knotted so if by some small chance the necklace was to actually break, only one tiny stone would come off. No more of a choking hazard than any kind of food. I know all of this because my son has one and has been an amazing help. Maybe, instead of jumping the gun and thinking that the parent doesn't know what they're doing, assume that the parent has researched what they're doing for their child 100%. It goes along with the iPad discussion as well. You don't know how the activity is being monitored or anything else about the family using it.
Thank you, thank you, thank you apple! The iPad & touch technology are allowing me to engage my kids in ways I never dreamed possible. Not just kids on the autism spectrum but any child with special learning needs. I too understand the concern of overloading a child with technology but that is where we need to remember things like "adult guidance". Sure, my two year old can oprate the iPad on her own, but I don't let her! It's not the device people it's how you use it. So, my students work on traditional lessons, reinforce skills with the iPad and then we go to recess. Balance in all things.
FYI.....the necklace on the baby is not decorative..it's an amber teething necklace.
OtakuCODE wrote:You are, entirely, being too paranoid. Things which actually hurt children: Diseases, dangerous animals, accidents, abusive people (almost always their parents). Things which have never, not once in history, hurt a child: Pictures on a screen, audio at a reasonable volume, fiction of any form, words, and especially - new user interfaces.
That children do not understand that prior technologies like photographs have piss-poor interfaces is natural. Kids don't know what a record is. That isn't a problem, it is an advantage. They have a better way to see the present and, in turn, the future. They are not pulled down and limited by the mistakes of the past. Certainly kids should be taught about the way things used to be done, in the context of explaining why they were improved. The past has no inherent value. Children don't know what it was like to slaughter their own animals to eat, and while they should certainly be taught about it or visit a farm to witness how food is made first-hand to have an accurate idea of the world, it's not something that is ever going to HURT them. Chances are very good that you yourself have no idea what it was like to live in a world without electric lights. Chances are good that you have never seen a night sky where you could see the 'milky' part of the Milky Way. This does not mean you are damaged. Humans are adaptable, and you have adapted. Do not steal this from your children.
I think people have a 'fear constant' built into their intuition. As we remove more and more things that are actually WORTH being afraid of, people will insist on fearing things for which there is no reason. Those fears are pointless and can be dangerous. "Better safe than sorry" is a lie. Safety, in the way it is interpreted today, leads only to ignorance and developmental handicapping. If something is not 100% PHYSICALLY dangerous, then it has inherent value. It can teach, and give a better idea of what reality is, how it works, etc. As a parent, your job is to HELP your children and to turn them into ADULTS, not simply larger children.
I'm tired hearing about people being worried about this crap. Things like the iPad are the future. When these kid grow up they are going to think that a "conventional" photo or magazines are stupid and wasteful. We are all going to be using devices like iPads. I equate peoples ignorance about this to people that said cars were no good when they were riding horses. Or how people should write letters instead of that newfangled "telephone".
Welcome to the future.
Seems to me that this weighs in more on parents than technology. As has been stated several times here already, whether we grew up with or without technology, we were exposed to fairy tales and fantasy, but most of us understand it isn't real. (I say most because I went to college with a guy who was convinced anime was real.) It's important for parents to help kids learn technology but also stay grounded in reality and the physical world. They'll need technology to succeed in life, but they also need to understand that there's more to life than a touchscreen.


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Waterfalls have long had an almost spiritual appeal among humans. Whether one is an avid outdoorsman or an occasional hiker, there is something special about making a gorgeous waterfall the destination for a hike.
Among the Cherokee Indians, rivers were known as "The Long Man" and special ceremonies were often held at waterfalls.
The following waterfalls are just a few of the more popular falls in the region.
Bridal Veil Falls
Bridal Veil Falls is easy to get to and impossible to miss. If you are headed west from Highlands through the Cullasaja Gorge on U.S. 64, the falls will go over a small pull off road on the right. The falls isn't nearly as impressive as the other falls in the Gorge, but after all, how often do you get the chance to drive your car under a waterfall?
Bridal Veil Falls is 2.3 miles west of Highlands on U.S. 64. You'll see a pull off road on the right side of U.S. 64 under the falls.
Dry Falls
Dry Falls is one of the most popular waterfalls in Western North Carolina and an easy stop if you are seeing the other falls on U.S. 64 through the Cullasaja Gorge. Visitors can walk behind the falls and to the other side. The powerful waterfall is about 65 feet tall.
Dry Falls is in between Quarry Falls and Bridal Veil Falls about three miles west of Highlands on U.S. 64. There's a small parking area on the left if you are headed west. Signs mark the falls on both sides of the road. If you come on a Saturday during peak tourist season, a parking space will be hard to come by. The trail to the falls is short with some steps.
Cullasaja Falls
Cullasaja Falls is the final waterfall on the Cullasaja River before leaving the Gorge. The falls, a 200-foot cascade, is powerful and beautiful. You can get a good view of it from the road, but it would be a hike to get to the base, and no trails lead down to it. The downside to Cullasaja Falls is that the pull off is small and is a dangerous place for traffic to stop.
Cullasaja Falls is about two and a half miles west of Quarry Falls on U.S. 64. The pull off is small and at a sharp curve. The small pull off fills up quickly during peak tourism days. You might have to drive past it a few times before you can get a spot. Heading west, the pull off is on the left side of the road. You might want to drive past it, turn around and approach it from the eastbound side of the highway.
Mingo Falls
On the Qualla Indian Reservation in Cherokee, you'll find the popular Mingo Falls. A small creek falls about 150 feet over mossy rocks. Access to the falls is good – if you can handle lots of steps. A small bridge goes across the creek, giving hikers a face on view of the falls. People often climb around the bridge and on the rocks in front of the falls. Some of the rocks are very slippery, so be very careful if you choose to stray from the bridge.
Coming from Cherokee, head north on U.S. 441. You'll turn right onto Acquoni Road. There will be signs telling you to turn there for Big Cove Road. In about .1 mile, turn left on to Big Cove Road. Again you'll see signs pointing to Big Cove Road. Drive about five miles and turn right into Mingo Falls Campground. The parking area is straight ahead. The trail starts there, goes up a lot of stairs, levels out and comes to a bridge overlooking the falls. The trail is about 265 yards.
Soco Falls
Soco Falls is one of the closest large falls to Waynesville. Two creeks flow over steep rock cascades at a right angle from each other. There's a wooden platform that faces the higher of the two falls. The other falls is nearly impossible to see face on without going down to the base of the falls. There's a really steep dirt incline that goes down there without a lot to hold on to.
From Waynesville, drive north on U.S. 19. You'll pass under the Blue Ridge Parkway. After passing the Blue Ridge Parkway, drive 1.4 miles to a pull off on the left. At the corner before the pull off you want, you'll see a large gravel pull off. This is actually a private driveway and not the way to Soco Falls. A sign on the right side of the road will tell you to go another half mile. You want a pull off with a guardrail.
A short, steep path goes down between the guardrails. Follow the trail, which leads to a wooden platform. The trail beyond the platform is steeper and more difficult but will take you to the top of one of the falls. A dirt incline leads to the bottom of the falls that you'd have to slide down. It looks like it would be a challenge to get back up.
Midnight Hole
There's not much of a waterfall at Midnight Hole, but if you're looking for a good place to jump in the water, this is it. Midnight Hole is very popular and crowded at times. There's a rope that goes up one of the boulders so swimmers can jump off the rocks into the pool. The water is cold and crystal clear and feels wonderful after the hike on a hot, muggy afternoon.
Take I-40 Exit 451 in Tennessee. It will be the first exit after you cross the state line. Stay left after crossing the Pigeon River and follow the road two miles. You'll drive by a power plant and community park. You'll come to a stop sign at an intersection. To your right there will be a small hut with signs for honey, jam and fresh lemonade. Go straight through the intersection and enter the Big Creek section of the Great Smoky Mountains National Park. Follow the gravel road 0.8 miles to a picnic area and campground entrance.
From the parking area, walk back up the road. You'll see a sign on the left for the trailhead. The hike to Midnight Hole is about 1.5 miles. Stay on the main path and the hole is on the left. The hike is easy. We saw a family pushing a stroller up the trail, although they seemed to have a little trouble with some of the slightly rocky parts. Horses and their riders also frequent the trail.
Waterfall on West Fork Pigeon River
The waterfall on West Fork Pigeon River runs under an old stone bridge on N.C. 215. Although this waterfall isn't one to plan a trip around, if you're driving to the other falls on N.C. 215, it's worth a stop. You can take shots from the road and the bridge but watch out for traffic.
The waterfall is under a bridge on N.C. 215, 4.2 miles from where N.C. 215 crosses the Blue Ridge Parkway. It's 13.6 miles south of where N.C. 215 intersects with U.S. 276.


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Discussion in 'The Trash Can' started by haribobo, Jan 29, 2013.
Now the ladies!
Mao, Kaetlyn, Gracie
Mao, Akiko, Kaetlyn
Kanako and Gracie will be just off the podium.
Gao will be 5th!
^^ How very prescient of you.
Maybe so if it goes something like this:
Mao, Suzuki, Osmond, Gold, Gao
It could just as easily be:
Mao, Osmond, Gold, Suzuki, Gao
Or, Gao could make the podium and Mao could be toppled by Osmond or Gold for the gold.
I was thinking Gracie, Christina and Asada. Only so that TSN will come up with some cheesy Rob Black quote like Gold wows Mao and Gao. Or if Osmond wins, "How now Mao Gao?"
Asada, Osmond, Suzuki...
Gold and Murakami will round out the top 5...
I think Asada is going down. I guess it will be Osmond, Gold, Mao
Gold - Mao Asada
Silver - Gracie Gold
Bronze - Christina Gao/ Kanako Murakami
After seeing Akiko in recent competition, I doubt she can regain her good condition in a weeks time, but if she does it would be a pleasant surprise!
A whole lot of talent will be there that's for sure. Of course we will have to sit through about 20 dreadful skaters before we get to good skaters.
CBC has the 4CC, not TSN.
Much as I hate saying it, yes, there will be some craptastic skates there. And I'm one of those people who support increasing the number of skaters attending! But some of these will be really, REALLY bad.
Judges for the event: AUS, CAN, CHN, TPE, JPN, MEX, KOR, RSA, USA
With 4 judges from the Far East, I wouldn't be surprised to see two or more Asian ladies on the podium.
I no longer see Mao as an automatic podium finisher, and I am a huge Mao fan. Her jumps have been unreliable for a long time now, and her PCS marks cannot make up for the marks lost in the jumps department anymore. I hope I am wrong about her.
Surprised to see Kexin Zhang on the poll. Is she still skating?
Mao, Gold, Suzuki
If all perform well I think it will be Mao, Osmond, Suzuki. I think Zawdski, Gao and Gold will be just off of the podium. Imo Agnes and Christina have much better choreo and performance quality than Gracie between the jumps so I think they will finish in that order off of the podium.
I'm hoping for an Asada, Osmond and Gold podium. I would not mind it if Osmond won the entire thing, but I'm realistic about her lack of experience and will settle for a top 3 finish.
Ah ha! And, the rain in Spain stays mainly in the plain
While in Japan, Asada was bred to retain all the street cred … she's gotta have it!
And Gold may fold … (or mayhap, she'll boldly zoom on a Starship enterprise to strange and exciting new Worlds!)
Probably you're wrong. Asada is very reliable in Japan. Except for the bizarre case of 2010 NHK trophy, no foreign skaters have beaten her in Japan. In past seven years, Asada has only three losses in Japan (Ando twice, Suzuki once). Since Ando has practically retired, vast majority of the JSF's political resources will be placed upon her. My personal interest is how they are going to deal with her 3A.
I've found out that Japanese ladies have won 4CC in Asia five times in a row. And in all of these years, two Japanese ladies have won medals. Maybe such past records can't be neglected. My prediction is Asada-Gold-Murakami.
C'mon. 4CC is in JAPAN. Remember NHK, where Mao basically bombed in the FS and won anyway? Mao will be on the podium, no matter what.
Skating is incredibly popular in Japan. As I understand it, the arena was sold out the day the tickets went on sale, and Mao is #1 to Japanese fans. All three Japanese skaters will get a tremendous reception, just as Canadian skaters do in Canada.
My pick : Asada, Suzuki, Osmond.
But I really hope Gracie Gold will be on the podium.
I like these picks with Gracie as a dark horse in this event. I love Asada and Osmond but a sentimental part of me would like to see Suzuki win one.
LADIES SP Comparison (to be taken lightly as scores can't be compared, blah blah) for 4CC and Euros ladies going to worlds -missing Yuna Kim and Ashley Wagner and possibly Alena Leonova. Gorry is not confirmed.
Mao Asada 74
Adelina Sotnikova 67
Akiko Suzuki 65
Kanako Murakami 64
Carolina Kostner 64
Gracie Gold 60
Valentina Marchei 58
Elizaveta Tuktamysheva 57
Kexin Zhang 57
Kaetlyn Osmond 56
Joshi Helgesson 55
Zijun Li 54
Viktoria Helgesson 54
Lenaelle Gilleron-Gorry 53
Nathalie Weinzierl 52 (probably Hecken will replace her)
Elena Glebova 51


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Properly installing and maintaining a system for treating and disposing of household wastewater minimizes the impact of that system on groundwater and surface water. State and local codes specify how wastewater systems must be designed, installed and maintained. For example, Missouri Code 10CSR 20-8.021 regulates private sewage systems, and NR 113 addresses servicing these systems.
At minimum, follow the codes, but also consider whether the minimum requirement is sufficient for your site.
The most common form of on-site wastewater treatment is a septic tank/soil-absorption system. In this system, wastewater flows from the household sewer into an underground septic tank.
Reducing the volume of wastewater entering the treatment system is important because less flow (volume) means better treatment, longer system life and less chance of overflow. For holding tanks, less volume reduces costs by reducing the number of times the tank has to be emptied.
The quantity of water used depends on the number of people using the dwelling, how water is used and maintenance of the water supply system. Average water use in rural households is 75 gallons to 100 gallons per person every day. With low-use fixtures and individual awareness and concern, a reduction to fewer than 50 gallons per person a day is possible. However, even conservative use by several people may exceed the capacity of the wastewater treatment system.
Reducing the volume of water entering the system improves the treatment by increasing the time the waste spends in the system, thus providing more time for settling and aeration and more soil contact.
Consider the following ways to minimize water use:
Figure 1 shows a typical household system for wastewater generation, collection, treatment and disposal. Although systems for many farmsteads may be similar (groundwater supply, septic tank, subsurface treatment and disposal), note the lists of options below each part of the diagram. You may wish to circle the parts found in your system. The "leakage," "overflow," "infiltration" and "clear water" components represent possible problems with the system.
Figure 1Typical household wastewater treatment system with problems. Illustration by Andy Hopfensperger, University of Wisconsin-Madison, Department of Agricultural Engineering.1 Overflow devices are not approved for installation in Missouri.
Figure 2Buried sand filter. Source: Onsite Domestic Sewage Handbook, MWPS24, Midwest Plan Service, 1982.
Unfortunately, these problems often are difficult to recognize. You may notice overflow from systems as wet spots, odors and in changes in vegetation cover. Water entry (infiltration and clear water) will be more difficult to detect, involving tracing where floor drains, roof drains, foundation drains and sumps are directing waters that do not need treatment into the treatment system. Leakage from the collection and treatment system — as well as infiltration of water into the system through unsealed joints, access ports and cracks — can be difficult to assess. The flow chart at the bottom of the box follows the flow of wastewater and sludge through the treatment system.
Table 1Water use by conventional fixtures and water-saving fixtures and devices
The quality of water refers to what is in the water, not to the water itself. Even wastewater is more than 99.44 percent pure water. Wastewater usually contains relatively small amounts of contaminants, but they make a big difference in the usefulness of the water.
Contaminants found in wastewater include:
Bacteria and viruses, some of which can cause disease in humans. These microorganisms are large enough to be removed by settling or through filtration in beds or soil. Many microorganisms will die from the adverse conditions or aging in the system.
Suspended solids, particles that are more dense or less dense (scum) than water. Most can be separated from liquid waste by allowing enough time in a relatively calm tank. Grease and fats are a part of the suspended solids. Filtration beds and absorption systems can be clogged by wastewater high in suspended solids.
Oxygen demand. The microorganisms that decompose organic wastes use oxygen. The amount of oxygen required to "stabilize" wastewater typically is measured as biochemical and chemical "oxygen demand." Wastes such as blood, milk residues and garbage grindings have high oxygen demand. Aeration and digestion processes, in the presence of oxygen and organisms, produce stable, low-odor wastewater when given enough time. Wastewater with excess oxygen demand can cause problems for soil-absorption fields, groundwater, streams and lakes by reducing oxygen levels.
Organic solvents from cleaning agents and fuels may not be degraded or removed through treatment and can pass along with the wastewater back into the water supply.
Nutrients. Most notable are nitrogen from human wastes and phosphorus from machine dishwashing detergents and some chemical water conditioners. Nitrate-nitrogen is a common groundwater contaminant, and phosphorus overfertilizes surface water.
Consider the following ways to improve wastewater quality:
Leaking piping or treatment tanks (leakage losses) allows wastewater to return to the local water supply without adequate treatment. Infiltration of clear water overloads the system and dilutes the wastes. Don't let water that doesn't need treatment (basement floor drain sumps, foundation drains, infiltration of rainwater, roof drainage) add to your waste volume. Divert clear water, which doesn't require treatment, away from house, well and wastewater treatment system.
Septic tanks retain most of the suspended and settled solids (sludge and scum) from wastewater. In the tank, bacteria digest and compact the sludge. The partially treated water moves on to additional treatment or disposal (for example, in a soil-absorption field).
Septic-tank design and construction influence their water tightness and effectiveness in retaining sludge and scum. Multiple tanks or chambers in series can improve sludge and scum removal. Gas deflectors and filter screens or inclined-plate settling units help minimize solids carry-over. Tanks should be sized to accommodate at least 24 hours of wastewater flow or the minimum size, as stated earlier in this publication, while still allowing for sludge and scum retention. Pumping the tank before it is more than one-third filled with scum and sludge improves system function. When the tank is pumped, you also should check the baffles and look for tank leaks.
Aerobic (oxygen-using) biological systems (packaged systems) provide more extensive treatment of wastewater than the typical anaerobic (no oxygen) septic units, improving solids separation, releasing volatile chemicals and reducing sludge volume. However, these systems are more expensive to operate and maintain and are more subject to problems caused by changes in wastewater quality or environmental conditions.
Aerobic lagoons contain oxygen-breathing bacteria that decompose waste in a storage pond three feet to five feet deep. You can apply overflow from the system to lawns or allow it to flow through a grassed waterway. This system requires low maintenance and is inexpensive to construct.
Holding tanks collect and hold the entire wastewater flow. Disposal is generally done by a licensed contractor who spreads the waste on an approved site or hauls it to a municipal waste-treatment facility. Tank size should allow for ample capacity to accommodate pumpage and disposal at convenient and appropriate times, especially for land-spreading. When pumped, check the tank for leaks.
MoundsIf soil conditions are too shallow or too impermeable for a conventional absorption field, use a mound system. Raise the absorption field above ground level on a sand bed. The sand provides additional filtration and allows the effluent to the mound in small increments. Mounds are more expensive to construct and maintain than lagoons or conventional absorption fields.
Low-pressure pipe systems use a small diameter pipe in shallow, narrow trenches in direct contact with the soil. The system is dosed under pressure using a pumping chamber after the septic tank. Typical installation uses 1.5-inch pvc with holes every 5 feet of pipe length. Costs for absorption field components and construction are reduced, but the expense of the dosing chamber and pumping systems have been added.
Aerobic systems, described in the previous section, may be used for additional treatment of septic-tank effluent, yielding a better quality effluent suitable for more disposal options.
Sand filters improve the quality of wastewater after septic-tank pretreatment. Effective treatment involves aerobic biochemical activity as well as physical filtration. Filters consist of 2 feet to 5 feet of sand (or other media) in a bed equipped with a distribution and collection system. Wastewater is applied by dosing, and it may be recirculated to improve treatment.
Wastewater treated in such systems generally is lower in bacteria, nitrogen, phosphorus, oxygen demand, suspended solids and organic matter. The amount of reduction depends on design of the system. These systems must be engineered and can be costly to construct. They also must be maintained properly to operate effectively.
Important considerations in designing filters include pretreatment and quality of wastewater, hydraulic loading rate, depth and type of filter media, dosing frequency, temperature and distribution, and collection systems. Maintenance includes resting, occasional raking, removing clogged and crusted surface media, filter media replacement and attention to dosing equipment.
Remove nitrogen through denitrification (conversion of nitrate to nitrogen gas) or ion exchange. Denitrification requires anaerobic conditions in the presence of decomposable organic matter for bacteria to reduce nitrate to nitrogen gas for removal from wastewater. Denitrification and ion exchange processes are not used extensively at this time because they are expensive to install, operate and maintain.
Disinfection systems kill disease-causing microorganisms in wastewater and are used where discharge to surface water is permitted. Chlorine, iodine, ozone and ultraviolet light systems are available for treatment of good-quality effluents, such as those from properly functioning aerobic units and sand filters.
Disinfection of holding-tank waste prior to land-spreading has been studied, but it is not in common use. Disinfection with lime is feasible.
Off-site disposal of wastewater, by connection to a municipal sewage system, hauling to a municipal treatment facility or land-spreading can help protect the local farmstead water supply. Discharging treated wastes to surface water from private systems is not permitted in Missouri. Improper waste management off the farm can endanger the health of others in your community.
Application of wastewater to the soil surface provides an opportunity to recycle nutrients and to reduce the contaminant content of wastewater safely. Choose the application time so there will be: no runoff, maximum use of nutrients by plants and additional reduction in microorganisms. Consider these characteristics when selecting a site: soil, land use, depth to groundwater, weather, climate and hydrogeology.
Subsurface treatment and disposal using soil absorption (trenches, beds, at-grade and gravelless) is the common practice for household wastewater after pretreatment in a septic tank or aerobic system. There are, however, sites where soil-absorption systems are not acceptable because of high or low soil permeability, depth to bedrock or the saturated zone, or other factors. Deep, well-drained, well-developed, medium-textured soils (such as silt loam and loam) are desirable soil-absorption sites.
Incorporation of wastewater into surface soils is desirable because the chance of runoff is reduced.
Soils and separation from the water supply are important factors. Unsaturated soils allow movement of air, keeping the wastewater aerobic. A minimum of 3 feet of unsaturated soils is recommended for bacteria removal. Finer-textured soils (clay loams and clay) retain water better, allowing plant roots to take up wastewater and nutrients and encouraging increased die-off of microorganisms. Coarse, sandy soils cause effluent to flow too quickly downward to groundwater, not providing adequate time for filtering solids and pathogens from the liquid. Disposal sites that are more distant and downslope from the well increase the isolation of your water supply from contaminated wastewater.
Disposal of pumpage from septic tanks and other treatment systems on-site should follow similar rules as for wastewater. Sludges are more concentrated than treated wastewater, so lower application rates are recommended.
Only land-apply wastewater and sludge where permitted by the Department of Natural Resources (DNR). Approved sites for land application must meet requirements found in Missouri Code 10CSR20.800, including requirements for soil, depth to groundwater or bedrock, slope and distance from well and residences.
Matching nutrient applications to crop-nutrient needs is critical. Contact your local MU Extension specialist or private crop consultant for help in developing a waste-utilization plan.
If you suspect your household wastewater treatment system is backing up or your distribution system is clogged, first contact your plumber or treatment-system installer, who may have suggestions for extending the life of your system.
A properly designed, constructed and maintained septic system can effectively treat wastewater for many years. For more information on septic systems, contact your local MU Extension specialist or local health department.
For advice on alternative wastewater treatment systems, such as mounds, at-grades, gravelless systems, sand filters and aerobic units, or if you would like to explore experimental systems, contact the local MU Extension center, area health department sanitarian or regional Missouri DNR office.
For more information on requirements for legal land application of pumpage from holding tanks, septic tanks and other treatment systems regulated by 10CSR20.800, contact the nearest DNR regional office:
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|Cream cheese mashed potatoes, with butter and cream of course, are all the rage these days. This version is from Martha Stewart's mom, Big Martha so I'm guessing its been around awhile.
Holiday Mashed Potatoes with Cream CheeseThese are the perfect holiday mashed potatoes. Period. Potatoes. Butter. Heavy cream. Whole milk. Cream cheese. And more butter. You really do not need another one. I was watching The Martha Stewart Show and she was making her mom (Big Martha's) mashed potato recipe with Snoop Dogg. (yeah, you heard that right ... Snoop Dogg on Martha Stewart and Martha asking "What's Crack-a-lack-in'?" go watch the video, it is a hoot!) Now this recipe isn't an everyday recipe like Martha said, but more like a special occasion recipe - such as, well, hey... Thanksgiving or Christmas dinner for instance.
Me, I haven't done the big solo Thanksgiving or Christmas spread for all the family since I married The Cajun because my parents have passed on, my son is married and my daugher in law has a very large family event, so he and I usually go to my cousin's house, to the in-laws, or sometimes, to my son's house for the holidays when they host. I often miss having all the leftovers - especially the turkey - so almost every year I do a before or after mini Thanksgiving spread with all my favorites just for me and him... and just for the leftovers.
Anyway, I love when Martha features Big Martha's recipes, and this one is a definite winner. The best ever mashed potatoes, hands down. Here's how I make them.
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Recipe: Holiday Mashed Potatoes with Cream Cheese©From the Kitchen of Deep South Dish
Prep time: 5 min |Cook time: 45 min | Yield: About 8 servings
- 3-1/2 pounds potatoes, Russets or Yukon Gold
- Kosher salt and white pepper or freshly ground black pepper
- 8 ounces cream cheese, softened at room temperature
- 1/2 cup (1 stick) of unsalted butter, softened at room temperature
- 1/4 cup whole milk, warmed
- 1/2 cup heavy cream, warmed
Place unpeeled potatoes and 1 tablespoon salt in a medium pot, cover with cold water by 2 inches, and bring to a boil. Reduce heat, cover partially, and simmer until potatoes are tender, about 35 minutes. Drain, and let stand until just cool enough to handle. Rub off skins, and discard. Cut potatoes into large pieces.
Combine potatoes, cream cheese, butter, milk, and 1/4 cup cream in a mixer bowl fitted with the paddle attachment. Beat until combined. Season with salt and pepper, and beat to desired consistency.
Return mashed potatoes to pot, and place over medium heat. Add remaining cream, and cook, stirring constantly, until heated through. Serve immediately, or keep warm in a covered bowl over simmering water for up to 2 hours.
Cook's Notes: These potatoes, with a tiny bit of adaptation, are perfect to make a large tray of Make-Ahead Mashed Potatoes for a Crowd for a potluck or a bigger holiday dinner. Lighten these up by using lower fat products in place of the butter, cream and whole milk. You won't have the same flavor as full fat, but some things to try include low fat and fat free cream cheese, plain or Greek yogurt, sour cream, fat free evaporated milk, 1% milk, fat free half and half, buttermilk or a fat free broth. Margarine may also be used in place of the butter.
To Make Garlic Mashed Potatoes: You can add the peeled cloves directly into the boiling water with the potatoes, then remove, roast in a pan for additional flavor, and mash them. Add to the cooked potatoes. For this recipe you'll want most of a full head of garlic, but use it to taste, adding some and tasting before adding more. Even better is roasted. Cut off the tip end of a whole head of garlic, place it with the cut side up into a piece of aluminum foil, drizzle all over with good olive oil, pull the sides up a bit and loosely cover. Roast in a preheated 400 degree oven for about 30 minutes or until the cloves are fork tender. Let cool, then squeeze out what you want to use and mash. Add to the potatoes. Save or eat the rest!
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text: iPhone OS 4.0 Jailbreak! As you probably know iPhone OS 4.0 was unveiled in the US yesterday, and was made available for download immediately as a Developer Preview. If you want to have a go then you need to sign up as an Apple Developer, pay $99 and then you're good to go. I have it installed on my 3G … Read More


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Whooping cough cases on the rise
El Paso Co. health recommends vaccination
COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. - Reported cases of pertussis (whooping cough) is on the rise in Colorado.
The Colorado Health Department reported 940 cases from Jan. 2012 until Sept. 22 2012.
Of those cases, the biggest group of people infected were under 6-months old.
"The disease goes in cycles about every 5 years. It's been 7 since the last large outbreak in the country," said Dr. Bill Letson, Medical Director for El Paso County Public Health.
"I got it right after she (daughter) was born," said Kelsie Freeman. Freeman said her nurses strongly recommended the vaccine.
El Paso County Public Health is urging people, especially those who care for infants and toddlers, to get vaccinated in order to help prevent an outbreak in El Paso County.
In conjunction with the Colorado Springs Fire Department, the county is having three immunization clinics for TDAP and Flu Shots.
They will be on Oct. 6, Nov. 10 and Dec. 8 at the Fire Department Headquarters at 375 Printers Parkway in Colorado Springs.
The clinic is for licensed and home care child care workers.
From the El Paso County Public Health:
More information on the problem of pertussis:
In 2012, the largest number of reported pertussis cases was among adults 45 years and older (26 percent) followed by children ages 1-6 (21 percent). Increasing the Tdap (Tetanus, Diphtheria, pertussis) vaccination among adults helps prevent the spread of disease and protects the most vulnerable, particularly young infants. This effort is called "cocooning," or vaccinating everyone who comes into close contact with an infant. Infants suffer the most severe consequences of whooping cough, including prolonged illness, hospitalization, and death.
A substantial number of pertussis cases occur in adults (29 percent of all cases between 2009 and 2011) Adolescents and adults with pertussis may have delayed diagnosis or not seek medical care at all, but are infectious and can spread disease within their homes, workplaces, or schools.
Pertussis can occur at any age. It may be very severe in infants and young children.
In El Paso County, there were 53 cases reported in 2007; 9 cases in 2008; 20 cases in 2009; 21 cases in 2010; 37 cases in 2011 and 34 cases in 2012 (January 1 - September 19).
Pertussis is described as a bacterial infection within the respiratory tract that is easily spread through the air when an infected person coughs or sneezes. The illness begins with sneezing, a runny nose and mild cough, but becomes more severe during the first week or two. The cough may last a couple of months.
According to the Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment (CDPHE), the vaccine for pertussis is given in combination with vaccines for diphtheria and tetanus. The recommendation for the vaccination is that a total of five doses be given at two, four, six, 15 to 18 months, and between four to six years. Single doses are recommended for children 11 to 12 years of age or for those who have never received the vaccination.
According to the CDPHE's study of vaccine preventable diseases in Colorado from 2002-2012, most complete years don't see as many reports of pertussis as there have been just through August of this year. 2004 and 2005 appeared to be particularly hard-hit with 1,185 and 1,383 cases, respectively.


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So when it comes to bugs, they should listen, not give a canned response like what you gave. Which is exactly what ghostcrawler did when the feedback on CRZ began. When it comes to game breaking problems, and the company that created a feature that caused the problem, wont even hear the feedback, of course people are going to be upset with them. And I do like the game, hell I resubbed this month mostly to be with my friends again. But I still hold a hatred for the current incarnation of CRZ because the same bugs from September 2012, that's 6 months ago, aka, half a damn year, are still there unfixed and Blizzard giving a "We don't care" attitude.
That's why my estimate is where they are. Money speaks louder than words, and I am really looking forward to the results, and seeing if this will change Ghostcrawler's tune.


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It is clear the people of Iran had their rights violated by the blatant stealing of the election by President Ahmadinejad, but the response in the Arab world has been remarkably silent. One can imagine if Israel denied its Arab citizens of their right to vote, the Arab world would explode in anger and demand UN sanctions. Each day hundreds of thousands of brave Iranians march through the streets of Tehran but has a single Arab leader sent a protest to Iranian leaders, has a single Arab nation witnessed thousands of its youth marching through their streets in solidarity with the brave youth of Iran?
It would be wonderful if students at leading universities in the Arab world as well as Muslim students in colleges throughout the world organized protests and let Iranian leaders know they have violated the basic values of the Koran and the Muslim religion by their actions in Iran.
By the way, where are Muslim clerics? Iranian young people are being beaten and killed? Do you have anything to say?
And, where are the British academics who were willing to organize a boycott of Israel universities and who deplored the Gaza invasion? Do you guys have any demonstrations on order concerning Iran?


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theermine wrote:Same here.. Dead..
Support was atrocious to say the least.. After a MONTH going back and forth with them they finally replaced it.
If you want this thing to work with your land line though, be prepared for disappointment. The only reason I still have it hooked up is because I paid for a year of premier. It'll be chucked after that's up.. If the hardware makes it that long.
Tne only negative I can think of.....It uses of one of my 4 main trunks of my router .....(not much of a negative)
I have 16 other devices running off of my network on the other 3 trunks with switches for the wires portion and obviously random wireless devices (6 or 7 of those)
My point is.....This does not need a lot of bandwidth from a descent cable modem service/feed.....
In the $3 to $4 range as others have said.....and this is "stereo" not mono like a regular phone.....Buy yourself one of those new phone systems and you will love the clarity on a good call....You can tell the people on a bad call that they have a $hitty phone line and they should get Ooma.....
Now I do not do this lightly....
This is probably the single best product I have ever bought on Woot....It saves you about $500 a year on regular VOIP cable modem phone service or a regular land line and about $300 over Vonage.....
This is such an easy deal....and the setup for the "Neophyte" is not very difficult....OMGOMGOMGPONIESOMG PWNIES OMGs....stay away....
Picked this up the last time it was here and couldn't be happier. Outstanding voice clarity, no buzzing, static or hum. Kept my original number which only took 1 week to port.
Very easy to set-up...I chose to do the whole house set-up and have my original answering machine pick-up the calls. Works flawlessly. My monthly phone bill was $68 - say good bye to that crap! Recommended purchase.
I bought this last time it was on woot! My plan was to drop the cable phone from my package. I'm really happy with the call quality. I liked the premium service, but didn't go for it after the free trial ended. I pay $3.47 per month in taxes for phone service. The only difference I can tell from my old service is 1- the dial tone is unique, and 2- there seems to be a slight delay which I noticed when I called myself using my cell. It doesn't affect normal calls. Definitely worth the money!
stevenlee212 wrote:This may be a off-beat question , but why would anyone really need a home telephone if everyone in the household has a cell phone ?? The only calls i get at home are from people just trying to sell me great deals etc.....
I need a home (junk) phone # so I don't get all of those calls offering you great deals on you cell phone. I use my home phone for businesses ect. so I don't have to deal with them. Plus its great not having to worry about long distance minutes on ooma as its all free.
I bought this on a previous wooting and still haven't hooked it up. I need more hours in a day. Woot, when are you going to have a sale on that?
4 reasons for me:
1. My kids are old enough to be alone for a few minutes here and there but I'm not getting them a cell phone yet. I want them to be able to call me or 911.
2. I can't hear my cell phone if I'm upstairs & the phone is downstairs. If it's a kid or someone from their school calling me I want to know about it.
3. If I am having a heart attack I would more likley be able to get to one of my 3 home phone sets than to go looking for wherever I happened to have put my cell phone.
4. I need to fax papers on a regualr basis.
Guess you haven't tried Magic Jack Plus Yet?
No Computer Required. Plugs into ethernet just like this device but no monthly fee last time I checked.
[quote postid="4586706" user="quantamm"]This *is not* like MagicJack where you need a computer or they are sending you ads.
colbytitus wrote:This is an unnecessary piece of equipment if you have a PC. I have a Magic Jack and it is as clear as can be, $20 a year, free LD, VM, 411 etc. It still works when the PC is in power-save.
If you tried MJ and it was "choppy", "dropping calls" etc - that is your PCs issue, you've got an old PC or too much running in the back ground.
I was in the computer industry (20 years) as an engineer in the development and approval of products like magic jack (so they could be sold in our build to order systems)....Have moved on to something else now.....
I have a little experience testing "like" products.....
Is there any way to disable the "call waiting" feature? I just can't stand "call waiting"
We bought one of these last time they were on Woot and found out that our telephone number that we have had for 30 years is not portable and cannot be used and after searching over an hour the nearest number I could get was 100 miles away in a different state. Wife said that was not acceptable.
I dunno if we can message each other with these forums, but I have this same Ooma from the last woot and cannot use it because of our alarm system. It's still sealed in the original woot packaging.
Just let me know and I'll sell it for a lot cheaper, $75 shipped.
If this post is breaking the rules I'm sorry!
Ooma is fantastic. I've been using 3 (hubs)for about 4 years so I don't have to pay the reg fees. Easy to use. This price though isn't so great. $180 with 2 yr square trade warranty. Warehouse club $220 with 2 year warranty (and 'lifetime' satisfaction guarantee) plus handset plus bluetooth adapter.
Drop your landline!!!!
Can you use your existing landline phone number with this system?
vanevenhoven wrote:We've had this for months. We pay less than $4 / month and have recommended this to four friends who each thank us often. This is a no-brainer, if you're considering it, buy it.
It's cool, and people will like you more.
how much is the activation fee
tracydr wrote:Question?
Why are some of you people (not you necessarily!) on the OOMA thread trying to "sell" obi? If you have something to say about OOMA...then say it, otherwise stop trying to "sell" another product!!
I guess you prefer to make purchases blindfolded, rather than making the most informed decision possible?
Obi is being mentioned because it provides a very similar service for much less money. That may very well be why Ooma is selling its stuff on woot.com today--they could be feeling the pressure from Obi.
Isn't this basically a Magic Jack with a large footprint?
I have my ooma for a year, got a bad one and they replaced it, no hassel. Super phone. I had DSL only at my office. so it cost me zip to add this. always on. I use a battery backup to power the ooma and modem if the lights go out, so I still have a laptop and ooma that will work.
Pretty easy to hook up, and it is a one time expense $139 plus the 3 or 4 bucks a month for taxes. the primer service is good also if you need more toys on it.
I think I only read one negitive report on this item. how could anyone not like it?
I was fortunate to get in early buying an OOMA Hub (never used the Scout) about three years ago. I don't have to pay the taxes. Also, they had a promotion where you could buy the Premiere Service lifetime for about $100. So mine is free and it has worked great for me.
Two concerns though:
1. I have no landline and am using a Verizon dry loop line. They tell me I can only get their slowest DSL service. FIOS not available in my condo, so I miss a faster internet connection with the dry loop.
2. I have been told the OOMA might not work with 911 services. Thankfully, I have never had to test it out, but it would be nice to know it will work if you need it. Anyone every try 911 with an OOMA?
Ooma is the real deal! Probably the single smartest purchase I have made in the last 3 years. The call quality is outstanding and the uptime is amazing. I have already made back my money in the 12 months I have owned it since dumping my landline. If you are on the fence and have some spare cash, it is worth the investment.
The only criticism I have is for the company's business model - the product itself is top-notch. It sort of concerns me that most of their operating income comes from the upfront purchase of your box. They are really pushing the premier services, so hopefully that brings in more income and keeps them solvent for a long time to come!
I use the Nettalk duo. It plugs into my router (or computer if I'm traveling) and costs $30 a year after the $70 initial cost (which covers the first year as well).
As far as I can tell, it is cheaper and has more features than Ooma. It is about the size of a cell phone and uses very little power. I've had no quality issues other than occasionally unplugging and replugging to reset the device.
I tried Magic Jack, but you need to have a computer running for it to work. The Magic Jack quality wasn't very good either.
svvisco wrote:Can you use your existing landline phone number with this system?
Yes you can port it for about $40 or so (one-time fee). I think it takes about 3-4 weeks to do it. However if you sign up for their premier service for some period of time, they waive that fee.
KarenMarie wrote:Considering I saw one of the first Ramone's performances, I really laughed at that.
You post was very much appreciated. Very funny.
Hee hee! I actually spent quite a bit of time trying to pick just the right moment in history. Woodstock? Too early. Metallica? Just a shade too late.
Def Leppard? U2? Ehhh.... Blondie? Devo? I KNOW! The Ramones!
-- Ed
sdc100 wrote:
2) If you go though AT&T's landline, your voice is transmitted as an analog signal. If you go through the Internet, your voice is converted to a bunch of digital blips first (sounding like a fax machine), and then converted back to voice at some central location before it reaches the other person. If you look at your RJ11 phone jack, you'll see 4 (or 6) colored wires. Only 2 are used for voice. The other two are normally unused -- unless you have DSL. The DSL digital signals travel through these unused wires. And that's how AT&T will know if you're calling through a normal landline or through the Internet (i.e. Ooma). Actually, the only thing it'll know is whether it's a landline call, in which case it'll charge you. A call through the Internet isn't really differentiated by AT&T from any other digital data. For example, it couldn't care less whether the data is carrying a YouTube video or iTunes music or an Ooma call.
So the short answer to your question is that a normal landline call is detected through the two analog voice wires. Internet calls, like all Internet data, travels through two different wires.
DSL is *not* two separate wires, unless your installer set it up that way; it's transmitted as a higher frequency on the same two wires as the voice line. (That includes U-verse, which is just a more advanced form of DSL--except in newly-built neighborhoods where they use FTTH.) That's why *most* DSL installs require every phone device *except* the DSL modem to be connected to a filter; without the filters you'd hear the DSL signal as a high-pitched noise (and your DSL connection would go crazy every time you picked up the phone).
Some DSL installs *may* use two of the four unused wires in the home; but that's only because your installer split the one incoming line--probably at the NID (network interface device) outside your home--then slapped a master filter on the POTS (plain old telephone service) side using line 1 and put the DSL modem jack on line 2. That's similar to some DSL installs with alarm systems (the DSL side gets its own "home run wire" on the telco side of the alarm system so the system can seize the POTS side only) and most U-verse installs (the DSL side connects to your in-home cable wiring instead).
Nonetheless, AT&T (or any other telco) does set up POTS & DSL as two separate services; they're separated again somewhere between your home and the central office. (That's why you can buy "naked DSL".) The POTS side never sees VoIP calls, and vice versa, because the VoIP device (i.e., Ooma) converts the in-home voice signal to data and sends it out on the DSL side. (So does U-verse Voice, but AT&T dedicates a small portion of the U-verse DSL signal to that data stream alone, separate from Internet and IPTV data.)
(Edit: If you buy DSL from a third-party supplier, sometimes they lease a dedicated phone line from the telco for their DSL signal. Most DSL installs, however, use the same phone line as POTS.)
We've had this for several months and have been very happy with the savings. We had vonage for 5 or 6 years. We liked them too, but the savings is great, with Ooma. Now, could someone come up with a savings like this on electricity?
Anyone know if Ooma is going to charge an activation fee?
aferg1 wrote:First line of Amazon's description:
"Works with Google Voice for FREE calls to the USA and Canada to 2012 - Great international rates too!"
What happens after (or during) 2012 - does the Obi110 become obsolete or un-updatable?
Google Voice has stated their service is free until 2012. After that, they may start charging, or they may not. Google voice is optional, you don't have to have it to make calls, but you can sign up for it to make FREE calls. last year Google said it was free until 2011, but they extended it. So they may do that again.
I am saving over $78 a month with Ooma and the service is flawless. The ability to login to my account from anywhere and see call history, access voice mail, call forwarding to my cell and call blocking are very nice features.
is it possible to have more than one phone number on a single Ooma devices? If not, can another Ooma be used to add an additional phone number?
mpendergast wrote:Anyone know if Ooma is going to charge an activation fee?
They don't currently as long as you don't need to port your current number over.
Just my two cents about MagicJack. Have had it for over two years. Run it on a thin client and it works great. Voice mail is sent to email for free. MagicJack Plus has not been released yet, as far as I know, but looks to be similar to Ooma but much cheaper.
earthquakes, serious power outages/disruption. best bet for communication with outside world would be the landline.
Does VOIP works outside US Territory? What would be my telephone # ?
If I were to get bluetooth adapter could i make calls at home using cell phone and not get charged minutes? Or pick up my cell phone instead of the house phone and not get charged minutes?
Anyone care to wager a guess at why there is such a plentiful supply of REFURBISHED Ooma devices to supply these repeated woot offerings? QC issues? From the comments here, there are a couple of people that had issues with devices purchased in previous woots, but not an overwhelming number. I'm in for one, but with some skepticism.
We bought the Ooma Hub (a cheaper, older unit) some months back and have been very happy with it. We eventually decided to pay the $40 to have our local phone number ported to it. We pay $3.47 a month.
The only time voice quality seems to be affected is if I am doing a heavy download on my computer.
I have used customer support a couple of times and they were helpful in my experience. In fact, one of the contacts was when I noticed on my cc bill that they were charging me the $10 a month for (cancelled) premier service. They refunded my money no questions asked. It was amazing.
i just hook my fax machine to a splitter in the back of the ooma and have had no problems
All this talk to why people even need a home phone anymore is crazy? Why would people spend over $50 a month for a cell phone. Let's see when your at work chances are there is a phone nearby you could use and with everyone having free long distance anymore chances are you can use it. When you get home and have something like this you don't need cell phone then. If you go to a movie why would you need a phone. I mean I have a cell phone for emerengcy but it's prepaid and pay $5 a month for the thing. I have friends with kids that are spending over $100 a month and I find that more crazy then people not having home phones at all.
Vonage started out pretty good, but they are now almost as expensive as what I used to pay Verizon for local phone. I've heard lots of good things about Ooma and I missed out on the last Woot that featured this, so I'm glad it came around again.
Never heard of this system and wants to know what is the monthly cost of the service.
does this mean you drop your land line and pick up whatever telephone service that the system has?
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