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'While all the other players drove back to Buffalo on the team bus, Horton had special dispensation from Imlach to drive the Pantera alone. Horton knew the route well and often stopped to visit franchises along the way. He had an early morning X-ray appointment for his jaw in Buffalo, that, given the amount of pain he was in, he probably didn't want to miss.'
Tale of Tim Horton's last ride
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Custom Flamethrowing Wheelchair! (PHOTOS+VIDEO)
It looks more like the transport of choice for a Bond villain than a wheelchair.
But one inventive engineer has turned a wheelchair into his very own hot seat by fitting it with a flamethrower.
Lance Greathouses eccentric creation can spit fire over 35 feet the length of a typical bus.
Its called Lord Humongous and it will make or break your day. Lord Humongous can only be taken out at night otherwise its devil heart will fall back on its evil instincts and eat all the children it finds. Lord Humongous was into Jet Boy and Jet Girl before it was cool. Lord Humongous made Lance Armstrong admit he was cheating.
Lord Humongous cant vote, but if it could, it would be a single-issue voter. That issue is Lord Humongous will burn it all down.
[The Daily Mail]
Black Blade: "Lord Humongous"? I recall the main villion in Mad Max the Road Warrior is named "Lord Humongous". A few years ago in South Africa an Opel sedan was offered with two flamethrowers on each side that was to discourage car jackers. Seems the idea was to turn carjackers into human torches covered in flaming napalm at Johannesburg intersections.


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Green Bay Swimming & Diving Wraps Up Road Trip at Cleveland State
By: Ryan Hartwig (@RyanHartwig)
CLEVELAND, Ohio (GreenBayPhoenix.com) – The Green Bay swimming and diving teams wrapped up their three-day Ohio road trip on Saturday afternoon against Cleveland State at the Robert F. Busbey Natatorium. The women's squad (3-0) picked up its third Horizon League dual victory in as many days with a 138-105 win, while the men's squad (0-2) fell to the Vikings 149-92.
The Phoenix women earned first-place finishes in eight of the meet's 13 events, while the men's team registered four total victories on Saturday.
Freshman Natalie Neuwirth (Stevens Point, Wis.) continued her strong start to her college career against Cleveland State, recording a trio of wins to bring her season total to six. Neuwirth took both the 200-yard IM (2:10.65) and the 200 backstroke (2:07.23), and also joined Emily Gomez (Burlington, Wis.), Marlee Kiander (Tomahawk, Wis.) and Haley Lucas (Menomonee Falls, Wis.) on Green Bay's victorious 400 medley relay squad (4:00.74).
Lucas also secured an individual win on Saturday, as the freshman claimed the 200 butterfly in 2:06.85. Classmate Autumn Roepsch (Dubuque, Iowa) won the 200 breaststroke shortly after, finishing in 2:27.17.
Parker Wolf (Kohler, Wis.) finished off the weekend with two more wins to her name, as the senior standout sprinted to victory in the 50 free (24.23) before anchoring the winning 400 free relay squad (3:31.68) to end the meet. Joining Wolf on the relay were Claire Walters (Northfield, Minn.), Racheal Weiland (Wisconsin Rapids, Wis.) and Samantha Rottel (New Berlin, Wis.).
Senior diver Carrie Dinelli (Northbrook, Ill.) had a solid day on the boards for the Phoenix women, highlighted by a win in the 3-meter competition with a score of 264.74. Dinelli also earned a runner-up finish on the 1-meter board.
Senior Brian Heiser (McFarland, Wis.) paced the men's team with a pair of individual wins against the Vikings, claiming the 200 freestyle (1:45.56) and the 200 backstroke (1:56.49). Sophomore Willem Poelmans (Hasselt, Belgium) was also an individual winner at CSU, taking the 200 IM in 1:53.72.
Green Bay's fourth win on the men's side came in the 400 free relay, as Casey Murphy (Sun Prairie, Wis.), Cole Hackney (Highlands Ranch, Colo.), Evan Hill (Jefferson, Wis.) and Matt Hollub (Appleton, Wis.) combined for a winning time of 3:09.56 in the meet's final event.
After the long road trip, the Phoenix will have its first home meet of 2013-14 next weekend, welcoming South Dakota State on Saturday at 12 p.m.#


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Ok Alabama paintball ballers where have all the beginner 3 and 5 man tournaments gone? I have a team ready to go and no tournaments to play in. We live in Southern Alabama if you know of any tournaments coming up let me know. I can sit here all day and say how good my guys are but until we have a trial by fire it really doesnt matter. I know soon we will travel to MS to practice with whats left of the warped army. My buddies Gerwin and Roger Henn said they dont mind doing a clinic and practice for us so Im just asking what happened to all the tournaments and teams that use to thrive in AL and MS and LA and FL what happened to the south?
Paintball Tournaments
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Posted 16 June 2011 - 10:06 AM
Clubing baby seals since November 10, 1775 it doesnt have to be right, just effective.
Posted 16 June 2011 - 10:14 PM
Most tourneys in Alabama are none existent, if I'm not mistaken there was a small one at Counter Addiction across the bay in Baldwin County on the 5th. You would probably have to venture into Florida for a decent size tourney.
Edited by Morgan-Crp, 16 June 2011 - 10:15 PM.
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Posted 30 August 2011 - 07:52 PM
Thats what I am saying. Alabama sucks dick when it comes to paintball!! There absolutely zero or next to zero tournaments in Alabama. Its freaking hard to find an airball field much less a tourny.
I live in NE Alabama... Its terrible. This state is awful at paintball.
I live in NE Alabama... Its terrible. This state is awful at paintball.
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The stars are brightly shining…
posted at 2:40 pm on December 25, 2012 by Mary Katharine Ham
Long lay the world in sin and error pining, 'til He appeared and the soul felt its worth.
The Gospel, in one beautiful sentence. I put it right up there with John 3:16 as elegant, economical expressions of an entire religion go. Whether you're a believer or just a fan of good writing, it's a line for the ages.
A thrill of hope
The weary world rejoices
For yonder breaks
A new and glorious morn!
"O Holy Night" went through several iterations before it became the hymn as we know it. French poet (and wine merchant) Placide Cappeau wrote the first version, "Minuit, chrétiens," which was put to the music of French composer Adolphe Adam in 1847. The literal English translation looks nothing like "O Holy Night," but it was later loosely translated and interpreted by Boston Unitarian minister John Sullivan Dwight. It was first published in English in 1855, along with another French hymn, "Angels We Have Heard on High."
From the Christmas Music Companion Fact Book, we learn it was not well-received in its first outing:
Adam's composition was first performed in the 1847 Christmas Eve midnight mass in the church of Roquemaure, France. Church authorities frowned on the song, and one French bishop denounced it for its "lack of musical taste and total absence of the spirit of religion."
I beg to differ. So, we have two talented Frenchmen and one of our early fellow countrymen to thank for bringing us this breathtaking song.
Fall on your knees
Oh hear the angel voices
Oh night divine
Oh night when Christ was born
Oh night divine, oh night, oh night divine


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Centre back Thomas Vermaelen is expected to be back in training with the first-team squad in around a month.
Vermaelen has undergone a minor procedure to remove an inflamed plantaris tendon from his left ankle.
This is the same treatment that he had on his right ankle in January this year and has nothing to do with his Achilles tendon.
The action was taken after consultation with specialists who advised this was the best thing to do to prevent it becoming a persistent problem.Copyright 2017 The Arsenal Football Club plc. Permission to use quotations from this article is granted subject to appropriate credit being given to www.arsenal.com as the source


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Facts Puncture The Myth That Obama "Apologies" Have Ruined U.S. Standing
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Right-wing media are trying to breathe new life into the never-dormant right-wing mantra that President Obama is the "apologist in chief" in order to argue that Obama has "diminished" America's standing in the world -- an argument that is contradicted by America's actual standing in the world.
After Obama apologized to Afghanistan for the actions of U.S. military personnel posted there, conservative media figures lambasted him for "constantly bending over backwards" and "showing weakness ... in Afghanistan and elsewhere around the globe." Fox News' Sean Hannity, one of the greatest purveyors of the "apology tour" myth, has even claimed that this is proof of just how much Obama has damaged America's standing in the world.
But all of this -- from Obama "constantly" apologizing for America to his hurting U.S. image abroad -- is a lot of nonsense.
First, let's cue Hannity, who devoted two separate segments on his two different platforms to pushing this meme:
On his radio show, he accused Obama of having "effectively undermined any moral claim that America might have to world leadership." He went on to say that "we see -- what's happening is that America is ceding that ground" and that "[w]e have a president that's more inclined to apologize for America than defend America's greatness."
On his Fox News show, Hannity said: "With the president again apologizing for America, we are reminded just how much our standing in the world has diminished under his watch." Guest Brigitte Gabriel -- whose credibility as an expert in Middle Eastern affairs is in dispute -- chimed in by saying that Obama is "denigrating this country and he is denigrating the reputation of greatness of America." She added: "He is not only 'apologist in chief,' he is America's first 'denigrator in chief.' "
In fact, here's what the Pew Research Center reported in September 2011:
For America's global image, 2008 was a pivotal year for two reasons. First, the election of Barack Obama led to dramatically higher ratings for the U.S. in many nations. This was especially true in Western Europe, where the new president received astronomical ratings - in 2009 for example, 93% of Germans expressed confidence in Obama's leadership, as did 91% in France.
But the improvement was not limited to Western Europe. Obama was seen much more positively than his predecessor in the Americas, Africa, and Asia as well, and ratings for the U.S. rose significantly in nations such as Mexico, Argentina, Canada, Nigeria, and Japan.
The 2010 and 2011 Pew surveys showed that the Obama bounce had staying power, as views toward the U.S. and Obama remained mostly positive across much of the world.
In its 2011 survey, Pew concluded: "Overall, the U.S. president continues to inspire more confidence than any of the other world leaders tested in the survey."
A 2011 BBC World Service poll arrived at the same conclusion:
Views of the US continued their overall improvement in 2011, according to the annual BBC World Service Country Rating Poll of 27 countries around the world.
Of the countries surveyed, 18 hold predominantly positive views of the US, seven hold negative views and two are divided. On average , 49 per cent of people have positive views of US influence in the world--up four points from 2010--and 31 per cent hold negative views. The poll, conducted by GlobeScan/PIPA, asked a total of 28,619 people to rate the influence in the world of 16 major nations, plus the European Union.
In 2007 a slight majority (54%) had a negative view of the United States and only close to three in ten (28%) had a positive view; America was among the countries with the lowest ratings. Views began to rise in 2008, with positive views rising to 32% on average, and now the USA is in a middle tier position, ranking substantially higher than China.
A separate poll by Gallup also proves Hannity wrong. You know where else Obama is wildly popular? Israel.
The Middle East -- which has historically given America and U.S. presidents less favorable ratings -- is still the only region where Obama and the United States are viewed in less favorable terms. According to a 2011 Zogby poll, "the policies of Iran are viewed more favorably than the policies of the United States" and where the "killing of bin Laden only worsened attitudes toward the U.S." In his analysis, James Zogby wrote that the "continuing occupation of Palestinian lands and U.S. interference in the Arab world are held to be the greatest obstacles to peace and stability in the Middle East."
The right-wing claim that Obama apologized for America is "ridiculous," says PolitiFact. The Associated Press, The Washington Post, all have warned that the claim "is not borne out by the facts" and that Obama has issued "no formal -- or informal -- apology. No saying 'sorry' on behalf of America."
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Indiana Takes on the World
Last month's EMO machine tool show cast a spotlight on concepts such as Industry 4.0 and The Internet of Things. These advances are seen as essential to globally competitive manufacturing. This article examines the achievements of two companies in Indiana that are well on their way to implementing these concepts.
ITAMCO's Joel Neidig shows how the mobile application on his smartphone enables it to capture shopfloor date. The smartphone reads bar codes with its built-in camera.
EMO, the giant machine tool show that took place in September, 2013, cast a spotlight on concepts such as Industry 4.0 and The Internet of Things. Industry 4.0 is a national initiative sponsored by government and university organizations in Germany. It seeks to promote the fourth phase of the Industrial Revolution in which manufacturing is based on technology that is thoroughly computer-integrated and Web-enabled. The Internet of Things is a similar concept that focuses on instant access to manufacturing data for distributed, collaborative production.
An article prepared for publication at the show examines the achievements of two manufacturing companies in Indiana. It attempts to show how MTConnect-enabled systems have prepared these shops to realize the benefits and advantages set as goals for Industry 4.0 and The Internet of Things.


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One of this week's Facebook finds is a recipe that quickly became a favorite dish I'll probably make again and again, Loaded Potato and Buffalo Chicken Casserole.
There are a couple time-consuming steps to this recipe but the end result is worth it.
Describing the taste doesn't give it justice, but think about eating a loaded baked potato as a side to buffalo chicken and then put them all together for something delightful.
The recipe has been posted all over Facebook and I'm not sure of its origin, but I'm glad it was spread around.
It's the kind of recipe that tasted good the first day and as leftovers for several days after.
The second recipe, Bacon Ranch Potato Salad, continues the potato theme.
This recipe called for red potatoes, which I did not have on hand. Regular potatoes worked just fine. I thought I had green onions left from a previous recipe, but after a search through my refrigerator I discovered I was out of them, too. To keep an onion taste in the potato salad I added a little of the white onion I did have.
The result would have been much more colorful if red potatoes and green onions were used but it still had a good taste.
The page the recipe came from drew my interest before I saw it. It's from a page on Facebook called Army Wives' Kitchen. It is administered by four U.S. Army wives and one U.S. Navy wife.
They use the page not only to share recipes they have found, but to share recipes from others. After recipes are posted, others sometimes add tips or similar recipes.
Facebook pages such as this, and blogs, are great places to share recipes and ideas.
Others I've run across are a called Through a Country Momma's Eyes, Attitudes in the Kitchen and Southern Lovin Family Recipes. Needless to say, the names can get a little creative.
Recipes have been shared on Facebook for a while but recent technology upgrades for the recipe photos and layouts make them hard to resist. It's kind of the same idea as Pinterest but intermixed with photos of user's dogs, kids, vacations and updates of what they've done today.
In a world where we sometimes share too much information, I'm glad these recipes are being shared and more than that, people are trying them and sharing their own success stories.
Becca Owsley can be reached at (270) 505-1741 or bowsley@ thenewsenterprise.com.
Loaded Potato and Buffalo Chicken Casserole
2 pounds boneless chicken breasts, cut into 1-inch cubes
8-10 medium potatoes, cut in 1/2-inch cubes
1/3 cup olive oil
1 1/2 teaspoons salt
1 tablespoon black pepper
1 tablespoon paprika
2 tablespoons garlic powder
6 tablespoons hot sauce
2 cups fiesta blend cheese
1 cup crumbled bacon
1 cup diced green onions
Preheat oven to 500 degrees. Spray a 9-by-13-inch baking dish with cooking spray.
In a large bowl mix olive oil, salt, pepper, paprika, garlic powder and hot sauce. Add cubed potatoes and stir to coat. Carefully scoop the potatoes into the prepared baking dish, leaving behind as much of the olive oil/hot sauce mixture as possible.
Bake potatoes for 45-50 minutes, stirring every 10-15 minutes, until cooked through and crispy and browned on the outside.
While the potatoes are cooking, add cubed chicken to the bowl with left over olive oil/hot sauce mixture and stir to coat.
Once the potatoes are fully cooked, remove from oven and lower the oven temperature to 400 degrees. Top the cooked potatoes with raw marinated chicken.
In a bowl mix together cheese, bacon and green onion and top raw chicken with the cheese mixture.
Return the casserole to the oven and bake for 15 minutes or until chicken is cooked through and the topping is bubbly.
Serve with extra hot sauce and/or ranch dressing.
Bacon Ranch Potato Salad
2 pounds red potatoes, cut into bite-size pieces
1 (16 ounce) container sour cream
1 (1 ounce) package ranch dressing mix
1 1/4 cups cooked bacon, crumbled
1 1/2 cups shredded cheddar cheese
2 bunches green onions, thinly sliced
Place potatoes in a large pot and cover with salted water. Bring to a boil over high heat, then reduce heat to medium-low, cover and simmer until tender, about 20 minutes. Drain, then run under cold water until cool.
Combine sour cream and ranch dressing mix in a small bowl until well-blended. Transfer potatoes, bacon, cheddar cheese and green onions to a large bowl. Stir in sour cream mixture until well-coated.
Cover and refrigerate for about 2 hours before serving.
SOURCE: Army Wives' Kitchen page on Facebook
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There are certain things that people value, that deem their lives meaningful. We, as the Turkish Nation, have a feeling to protect, originating from our fervent love towards Allah. We feel profoundly disturbed by the sorrows in the world, any other nation might not be that much disturbed by it. Both with our spirit inherited from the Ottomans and through our manners we make the world feel that we are compassionate and kind. For instance Bashar al-Assad feels those beautiful loving words and that means that they do think that Turkey is a loving nation and that they can trust Turks.
This is directly proportional to the warm and candid manner of the administrators. People think that if the administrators are behaving as such, then the whole nation would be the same. For instance, the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Israel placed the chair of our ambassador below his own, and everyone thought that it is the general conception of the whole Israeli nation. People psychologically perceive the manner of the administrators as the general representation. This is how it will be in the time of Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh).
Therefore when Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh) appears they will see the loving manner he employs and people will say: "Since the whole Islamic community loves Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh), and he speaks in the name of Islam, then it is all done". They will say"There will not be any other war, everything is over, love will prevail, everything will be for the best". People need to be hopeful. Once you say Hazrat Mahdi will appear and justice will come, the economy will be strengthened, the economic crisis will cease immediately. It is in between the lips of Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh). They have already been locked by indoctrination anyway. They will be resolved of that also. But people come up and say, " I am the president of the IMF and the economic crisis will be solved only after six months". They all say "come on" But that would not be effective. People ask, "What is the basis for saying these things".
But when Jesus, the Messiah, (pbuh) appears, he will say "the Qur'an is the true path, abide by me." And the whole Christian community, the whole Jewish community will say: "If such a valuable, such a wise and precious person, one that is so respectful towards the Torah, one that is so pious towards the true Gospel; if one who loves Allah this much says this, then this is the truth." They would say let us all accept what he says without ever thinking. The Prophet Jesus (pbuh) will also be an expert on the Torah, he will know the Torah very well. His manner will be powerful. No doubt will ever arise from his speeches. Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh) will also be like this.
The Prophet Joseph (pbuh) said "Another prophet will come after me" but they did not want it and said that he won't come. When the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) came, the Jews said we do not accept the Prophet Jesus under any circumstances. Even though there were signs in the Torah, they didn't accept him. The Christians, when the Prophet Muhammad (saas) came, said that they are not expecting the Prophet Mohammed and that they have no such expectation. That is a fanaticism that exists in human nature. Bediuzzaman says "Mahdi will come after me" and they say "no we are not waiting for that, no such thing could ever happen." The Prophet Moses (pbuh) says that there will be a prophet coming after him, they say "that can't happen". The Prophet Jesus (pbuh) says "a messenger named Ahmed will come after me " he even gives his name and they say "no that can't happen, it is not possible". They do so in the name of love, they imagine that the contrary would be betrayal to the Prophet Jesus (pbuh). And they imagine that once they say that Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh) will come, they would be betraying Bediuzzaman. They have been making the same mistake for thousands of years.
They are talking about the Prophet Jesus (pbuh).
I checked, they have prepared one website about the Risale-i Nur and one which does not talk about Risale-i Nur at all. They are talking about the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) with an obscure manner. They say "Okay, Bediuzzaman says that the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) will come but both the verses in the Qur'an and the hadiths are debatable". Two similar sites. That is a sort of preparation. Some time will pass and they will see if public opinion is formed to state that the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) and Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh) did not come, then instantly that website will be launched.
They will say, "We have already said this". They are talking with an obscure manner now. Then people would be hesitant. Hesitation is unbecoming to Muslims. A Muslim acts according to decisive faith. He has a certain belief and he defends that belief sincerely. An approach stating it could be that or it could be this is not acceptable. He either accepts Al-Qutub as-Sittah [The six major hadith collection] or not, he either accepts the Ahl al Sunnah scholars or not
Verses about the descent of the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) are specific verses that are unique for him. No verses are revealed that make strong implications on the coming of any other prophet. Allah did not say "he is a sign for the Day of Judgment" for any other prophet. How can a man be a sign for the Day of Judgment? Allah does not say that our prophet is a sign for the Day of Judgment. Even though our prophet (pbuh) came after him, Allah only says that for the Prophet Jesus (pbuh). That means he will come as the last one. He will not bring a new canon law, he will not come as a Prophet but as a subject to the Shari'a of our Prophet (saas). If it were so, Allah would have said "Oh Mohammad you are a sign for the Day of Judgment." They also use some methods to change the meaning and context about that verse as well but of course they cannot succeed. It is understood from the beginning of the verse and from its continuance. They say that even though the verses refer to the coming of the Prophet Jesus (pbuh), the part "He is a sign for the Day of Judgment" is referring to our Prophet Muhammad (saas). It is apparent that this is not the case, they are making far-fetched explanations. We are to abide by the first meaning of the verse. Allah knows the truth.
When an example is made of the son of Mary your people laugh uproariously.. (Surat az-Zukhruf : 57)
When you say that the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) will come for instance, the man starts to grin. I mean he finds it odd.
They retort, 'Who is better then, our gods or him?' They only say this to you for argument's sake.They are indeed a disputatious people. (Surat az-Zukhruf: 58)
What are their idols at the moment? Darwinism, materialism. Now for instance they are discussing these points extensively. Will the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) come or will he not, why won't he come? There is nothing to discuss, the rule of Allah is explicit. The belief of the Ahl al-Sunnah is apparent. These are disputatious people, they like arguing. They want to discuss continuously. Demagogy. Allah says that they are inclined to discussion. By saying they are disputatious people, Allah directly refers to the unbelievers of course, but the ignorant does that as well. The ones in unawareness do that as well and the ones with sickness in their hearts and the hypocrites do so as well.
He is only a servant on whom We bestowed Our blessing and whom We made an example for the tribe of Israel. (Surat az-Zukhruf: 59)
When approached insincerely one might claim that the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) is not mentioned here and that it refers to a person in that period. But when you look sincerely since it is the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) mentioned up until now, that means this verse refers to him as well. When you approach the subject sincerely, since the verse above and the following are talking about the Prophet Jesus, this one apparently refers to him as well. The ones who take themselves for smart say "any one of the Muslims is meant there" by the part which states "he is only a servant". They say "this part may be referring to the Prophet Moses (pbuh) for the part which states "We made an example for the tribe of Israel." They may come up with various explanations.
If We wished We could appoint angels in exchange for you to succeed you on the earth. (Surat az-Zukhruf: 60)
They have been saying that there will be angels with Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh) and that they will be visible but Allah says for such a situation that, "He would appoint angels in exchange for them to succeed them on the earth". If there is to be an angel beside Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh) then there wouldn't be any need for Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh) anyway; the angel would be succeeding on the earth says Allah. Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh) would have said "you lead them" to the angel directly. That is because the angel would be innocent. Angel would be taking revelations directly from Allah.
He is a Sign of the Hour. Have no doubt about it. But follow Me. This is a straight path. (Surat az-Zukhruf : 61)
Here our brothers who are fond of making explanations say how do we know that it is the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) who is referred to by the word "he"? Isn't that how the verses go on? Since there is no other prophet to come, since our Prophet (saas) is the last prophet, if there is to be a sign for the Hour then it should be our Prophet (saas). But even though our Prophet (pbuh) is the last prophet, Allah sends the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) as a prophet with the condition that he would come without a Book. Since Allah does not refer to our Prophet (saas) as a sign, that means the Sign of the Hour is Jesus the Messiah (pbuh). Allah forbids having doubts about it.
Do not let satan bar your way. He truly is an outright enemy to you. (Surat az-Zukhruf : 62)
Allah says do not let satan to lead you to abnormal thoughts, abnormal behaviors, do not abide by the satan. This also refers to the anti-Christ. It will be the anti-Christ that the Jesus Messiah will struggle against anyway. It will be satan in the form of a human being.
And when 'Isa came with the Clear Signs, he said, 'I have come to you with Wisdom and to clarify for you some of the things about which you have differed. Therefore have taqwa of Allah and obey me. (Surat az-Zukhruf: 63)
See that the verses go on by mentioning the Prophet Jesus (pbuh). He says "I have come to you with Wisdom", that is he has come with the Qur'an. The Qur'an in fact is the Wisdom. [Allah is beyond their claims] They say that the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) is Allah, they have fallen into dispute about that. They have fallen into dispute regarding the belief in the trinity. They have fallen into dispute about many other points, and they have been separated into various sects.
And there is not one of the People of the Book who will not believe in him before him before he dies; and on the Day of Judgment he will be a witness against them. ( Surat an-Nisa': 159 )
The entirety of Jews and Christians will believe. This will occur in case of world domination.
They will say, "A Jew will say that he believes in the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) before he dies." Doesn't the Qu'ran say that believing at the moment of death would not be valid? A Jew in his death bed at the hospital, suddenly thinks of the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) and says "Jesus, I believe in you." This will not be accepted because it will not have a meaning. And why does he have to believe in the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) at the very last moment? He also has to believe in the Prophet Muhammad (saas). If the purpose is to rescue this human being, he is not rescued by that. Believing in the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) will not change anything, because the People of the Book don't believe in Hazrat Muhammad (saas) either. This is a far-fetched interpretation. They should behave honestly in this case. They make an explanation that is not appropriate to the Qu'ran and doesn't have any purpose. The Qu'ran would not tell us things without purpose.
Those soldiers while wandering around the streets in Afghanistan feel like doing so and they go and shoot a Muslim. They shout at them saying "run" and then discuss who will be the one to shoot at him, they play the hunter. They have had a dispute in between themselves in a drug party and since one of them got angry with the others he came up and said "these men are shooting men just for the fun of it". Completely by convenience, this is how they learnt about it. They have cut the fingers of the men they shot and have them dried and preserve them as souvenirs. Those men praise themselves in that.
"Hiding and fear are both hypocrisy, but there is no hypocrisy in performing the obligatory acts of religion. The obligatory act of greatest importance at the present time is Islamic Unity. …"
This biggest religious duty has become a point which is least spoken about. They don't talk about this subject at all even though it is the biggest religious duty. They do not even mention the Islamic Union.
The person of the Prophet Jesus (pbuh), who is present with his human body in the world of the heavens, will come to lead the current of true religion, as, relying on the promise of One Powerful over all things, the bringer of sure news has said. Since he has told of it, it is true, and since the One Powerful over all things has promised it, He will certainly bring it about… (Letters, Fifteenth letter, p. 79)
The Prophet Jesus (pbuh) who is there with his human body that is with his flesh and bones, even if he had actually been dead.
He is in the skies, that is the sky of the earth. It doesn't say for the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) that he is on the land. He is in the skies. In the Presence of Allah. Not with his dead body but as an alive being, it says.
The major result: the coming of the Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh) and the descent of the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) is a major result. Allah will send him even if he were dead says Said Nursi.
Bediuzzaman says " Even if he were dead as you say and even if he were sent to the farthest corner of the Hereafter, Allah will send him nevertheless".
He says both that he is alive and that he is in the skies with his human body. He says that is the promise of Allah in the verses of the Qur'an.
When the Prophet Jesus (as) comes, it is not necessary that everyone should know him to be the true prophet Jesus (as). His elect and those close to him will recognize him through the light of belief. It will not be self-evident so that not everyone will recognize him. (Letters, Fifteenth Letter, p. 80)
His arrival is definitive, he says. There is no doubt in that statement.
It is not an obligation for everyone to know when he first comes. His faithful students will recognize him by the light of their faith. Or else they won't recognize him in the extent of clarity. They do not recognize Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh) when he first comes and they do not recognize the anti-Christ either. Sufyan came, did you recognize him? You did not. People followed him. He established a committee and devastated the Islamic world. He created havoc for people. He was there, so was his committee and his doings. You have seen the face of the sufyan, you held his hand: sufyan is not a collective entity, he is an individual. There is the pharaoh, first he doesn't have any doings. But then he devastated humanity. The principle is to remove the wreckage he has caused. Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh) will remove that wreckage.
Sufyan came from Damascus. He was Hafez al-Assad. His appearance is described and Hafez al-Assad is exactly as described. It is said that he would slaughter the Muslims on a wide scale, Muslims all saw the Sufyan. And the anti-Christ is Darwin who caused the whole world to become atheist and irreligious. His committee consists of Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Mao and Trotsky. They caused damage, and they caused wreckage and devastated people. Then comes Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh) and stops them. First there is cruelty, compulsion, and troubles. These are all portents occurring before the appearance of Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh). In the meantime as he said himself, Bediuzzaman had given a partial struggle about religion but he can only take partial results against the anti-Christ. The work of Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh) against the anti-Christ is globally effective. The activities of Bediuzzaman would remain in a restrained platform. Activities of Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh) and the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) cover the whole world and finish it completely. There is a verse to that effect. Allah says "I will make it prevail the whole world." He says " I will place the ones following you on top of the unbelievers until the day of Judgment". That is the global dominion. This cannot happen in the time of Bediuzzaman. Bediuzzaman says "I came, the imams of the sects came as well and we partially fulfilled the religious part of this task". After Bediuzzaman the world became all wretched. PKK appeared after that, so did the strife. A huge devastation occurred on earth. And that devastation had continued after Bediuzzaman as well. But he partially performed that task. But he says "I am a vanguard soldier of Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh), I am his pioneer and I am laying the grounds for him."
Bediuzzaman says that the students of Nur will not completely understand the Resale-i Nur. He says that they will fail to appreciate the Risale-i Nur as is due and that they will fail to perform this task in this respect. "The real owners will come, they will widen this circle and these seeds will then be sprout," he says. When Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh) comes, there won't be anyone to freeze people's minds, to break their strength and depth by claiming that it will only be a collective identity; there won't be such incidents. That is because he will explain Bediuzzaman's works to such an extent that there will be no place for a second explanation. The ones who cover the truths would be looking for holes to hide themselves.
It could only be a wondrous person with the power of miracles ... And that person will be the Prophet Jesus (pbuh), who is the prophet of the majority of mankind, and whom most people follow. (Bediuzzaman Said Nursi, The Rays / The Fifth Ray - Second Station, p. 109)
He says that he will be showing miracles and will also be accepted by the majority. The Prophet Jesus (pbuh) is a Prophet deeply loved by Christians and Muslims. That constitutes approximately 80% of the whole world. The Prophet Jesus (pbuh) is the person who will refute the anti-Christ and solve this.
The person of the Prophet Jesus (pbuh), who is present with his human body in the world of the heavens, will come to lead the current of true religion, as, relying on the promise of One Powerful over all things, The Bringer of sure news has said. Since he has told of it, it is true, and since the One Powerful over all things has promised it, He will certainly bring it about… (Letters, Fifteenth letter, p. 79)
You have been telling that he is dead, that you have buried him. But here it says he will assume the leadership. Are we to believe Bediuzzaman or you? The Prophet Jesus (pbuh) who is alive and in the skies with his human body. Would a prime minister be dead by the time he takes the lead? A leadership, taking the lead is mentioned here. If you misinterpret this then you might as well misinterpret the verses about performing prayers (salat), you might as well misinterpret the Qur'an and may Allah forbid, you can misinterpret Allah. Just like the atheist Masons referring to a total energy. Then there wouldn't be a religion left anyways.
The descent of the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) is one of the most important topics discussed in the world. Allah refers to this in the verse. This constitutes an important subject matter for debate among the Christian world, among the Evangelicals, Catholics and the Orthodox. That is also an important debate in the Islamic world. The occupation of Iraq occurred because of a belief in a false Messiah. That is the reason for all that bloodshed. That is the reason why Saddam has been overthrown and the reason of their desire to occupy Iran and that is the reason at the core of their desire to occupy Syria. But we have intercepted all these insha'Allah.
People are having pleasure and fun. They do not know the reason of the bloodshed in Iraq or the reason of the bloodshed in Afghanistan. They do not know the intensity of the pressure applied in the Middle East. Quite a lot of people are after having fun and pleasure. They do not understand anything before the trouble hits them. There is a wretchedness in Pakistan. There is a wretchedness stemming from war, from people being set at loggerheads. And there is also the wretchedness coming from the American occupation, Russian occupation. All these are movements conducted from a single center. An erroneous Messiah belief lies at the root of all those, their not wanting the progression of Islam lies at the root. But the majority of people live in their own worlds. An awful amount of Muslim blood is shed, mothers are wailing, young girls are being raped. Their fingers are ripped off at the streets and people are martyred. The American youth, the French youth is having fun in Paris and in here and there, and in their worlds. People fail to evaluate the events. They fail to see the depth. They need to look compassionately towards Muslims, they need to feel for their own brothers. Thousands of American soldiers, European soldiers have died. One should not say "What is it to me, let the snake that doesn't touch me live for a thousand years" They are not aware where the troubles are coming from. Once they become aware of it, it is possible for them to take precautions, for that reason we need to tell them about these insha'Allah.
It is not known that the system of Messiah is the most important point. If you ask the man who smokes nargile (hookah) "how much blood have been shed here?" He would probably be unaware. You ask him; "uncle, why are those women being raped, why are these kids being martyred, why do all these happen?" he replies by saying "how would I know, I just am smoking my nargile". One should try to understand the things he doesn't know. These people openly say; since we think that the Jesus Messiah will come in this region, since we believe that the people living here constitute the army of the anti-christ, we are cleansing this region. However Muslims struggle against the anti-christ, they are not aware of this. They just learnt it after we told them. We tell them that Christianity was an old Islamic religion and that they all were Muslims before their religion was distorted and they get surprised because they did not know these.
In the narrations are various different prophecies about the Mahdi (May Allah be pleased with him), who is one of the signs of the end of time and will be from the Family of the Prophet. In fact, some scholars and saints stated long ago that he had appeared.
Allah knows best what is right, one interpretation of these various narrations is this: the Great Mahdi will have numerous functions. He will carry out duties in the world of politics, the world of religion, the world of government, and in the many spheres of the world of struggle. Similarly, since every century at a time of despair, people are in need of a sort of Mahdi to strengthen their morale or for the possibility of a Mahdi appearing at that time to assist them, through Divine mercy, every age or perhaps every century a sort of Mahdi has appeared from among the Prophet's (PBUH) descendants, and preserved his forefather's Shari'a and revived his Sunna. The narrations about the Mahdi are various because Muhammad (Peace and blessings be upon him) saw persons who would perform some of the Great Mahdi's works; for example, the 'Abbasid Mahdi in the world of politics, and Gawth al-A'zam, Shah Naqshband, the four spiritual poles, and Twelve Imams in the world of religion. For this reason some of the people of reality said that he had already appeared.
From the family of the prophet: from the line of our Prophet (saas). In the hadiths, it is explicitly stated that Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh) will be from the line of our Prophet (saas).
In fact, some scholars and saints stated long ago that he had appeared:
They say he came in the past, everything is over.
The Great Mahdi has many tasks: The Great Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh) is different, he has many tasks not only one.


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Actually you are comparing apples to oranges there because single phase and three phase refers simply to the type of power hook-up and has zero to do with the difference between a single stage and two stage compressor, a two stage compressor is going to be more efficient than a single stage REGARDLESS of the power connection. The terms phase and stage relate to two entirely different things and one has nothing to do with the other.
If you plan on using a HVLP paint gun you will have big problems trying to do so with only 12 CFM!
12 CFM may be OK for a conventional gun but you will run out of air with the HVLP, that larger tank would cause more problems here than it would just running the air tools because you WILL still run out of air and that long recharge time would be a paint job killer!
Did you pay $5000 for a used 12 cfm compressor? Seems way too small for a body shop. I bought this 24 cfm IR 3 phase used for $400. I think it may be too small for my one person shop. Just my .02
But I do understand where you are coming from. And thanks for the post.
I do appreciate all the answers and advice that I have gotten. What I have decided to do, is to have the new compressor installed, and as soon and we complete our first job, I will purchase a two stage air compressor for tools if needed. Then we will just plumb the expensive curtis drier unit to the paint booth only.
Thanks again
|I understand what kind of compressor you are getting now and it is a specialty type designed to deliver cool dry air at the expense of performance, it however is not very well suited to body work. I am surprised that you can run a collision shop on just 12 CFM but if that is the case then what you are doing will work and if you don't mind a 45 minute recharge time then I guess what you want to do is OK, I just think there are much more efficient and definitely cheaper ways of accomplishing the the same thing. A good two stage compressor of around 16 to 18 CFM and an 80 gallon tank would be cheaper and air supply would never be a problem, it is arguable that it might not be as dry as what that Curtis might deliver but do you really need instrument quality air? If you are using a good two stage of the capabilities I used as an example and your air demand is only going to be around 12 CFM or less as you mentioned then the two stage will deliver very cool air and a simple water separator and proper plumbing will provide air more than dry enough for most body work. Still, you know what kind of air quality you are looking for and so I assume that you have a reason and if so that Curtis should deliver and if that extremely long recharge time is worth a couple of extra minutes of run time then it should work like you are thinking.
4 men working of 12CFM?
I have found that your air compressor is the MOST important tool in the shop.
12CFM for 4 people way to low. ( air tools make you $$$ )
The compressor in your picture looks more like 12CFM per pump (x2) a total of 24CFM. (much better).
I like the fact that it runs slow (not at 1750rpms) They last forever.
That 2nd tank (250gl). is likely over kill and will only result in a lot of extra run time ( $$$ ).
I'd spend my money make sure you get as much CFM Matched with a tank sized to the/your air volume required to use at least 9CFM continuously, allowing the compressor to kick in and refill your tank and shut off while in use. If your compressor can do that it will have time to rest/cool down. Its the continuious running that wears , creates heat moisture etc.
Hope that helps
I am just curious, why did you not get a two stage air compressor? My understanding is that they are much more efficient, as in a lot more air cfm for the same amount of electricity to run it.
I am just a hobbyist, and I just do a little painting. I recently got a HVLP spray gun, that according to the spec sheet, uses more air than my compressor can put out. My compressor, an old 3 HP, single stage, with a 20 gallon tank. I had an extra 20 gallon tank given to me.
When using air tools with both tanks, the time to make the compressor turn on is about doubled. The time to fill both tanks is more than doubled. When I am working in the carport, away from the garage, I put the second tank close to my work, so I do not have a restriction of 100 plus feet of hose, and that helps maintain a higher pressure at the air tool. Both tanks are running at the same pressure. Because the inlet and outlet are separated on the second tank, it does trap a lot of water.
When I am painting with the HVLP gun, I run the second tank off the regulated pressure on the air compressor, at about 40 PSI. I drop the pressure again at the gun. When the air pressure is dropped from 90 to 120 in the air compressor to 40 PSI, in the second tank, it expands a lot, and it also drops temperature. When painting with this set up, the compressor runs maybe 25 or 30 % of the time. I have not yet had any water make it past the second tank.
That is how I use my second tank. You might be able to get some information out of what I do, or maybe not, but I hope it helps you.
|the 250 gallon tank won't make your compressor bigger.. it might give you an extra 5 minuites or it might not, all depends on what your doing, but once the tank drops to a pressure below a usable level, then you'll have a pretty decent wait.... it would seem more logical to upgrade the pumps first. 12cfm out of 2 3cyl pumps seems a bit low but it is what's listed
In regards to the air temp. I know I wont have a problem there. And I do realize that it will take more than double (up to 5 times longer) to refill an 80 and 250 gallon tank. But I am fine with that, if need be.
About the specs of the machine. This is from FS-Curtis Website. Model 8DH6.
It has 2 (1.5HP Motors) at 580RPM, 6.0CFM per Motor at 80PSI, 80 Gallon Tank. I do not have the AMP/Voltage specs. I will have to contact Curtis Monday. The spec sheet doesn't say either.
Starts on page 4 of the PDF file below from the spec page from FS-Curtis
So, I understand what your saying oldred about recharge time. Am I wrong on this thinking. In Theory, Lets just say I get 5 Minutes of use out of an 80 Gallon Tank, Then if I have a 250 Gallon tank, I should expect at least 10 minutes of use. Now in Theory, if it takes 10 minutes to recharge an 80 gallon tank, I should expect up to 45 minutes to recharge the 250 gallon tank.
If that is what to expect, than I am fine with this. I have found a 1 year old 250 galon propane tank, from a propane dealer, for $200. It has been drained of all gases, and aired out. What I am trying to come to, Would it be worth my $200 to increase the size. Like I said before, In theory if I gain 5 minutes every use, then it would be worth my $200. If I wanted to double my CFM with this type of dryer/compressor setup, it would cost me near $8000. I just don't have that in my budget right now.
It is expected to have 4 employees working during the day. But most work is done by hand. Only for a little bit is a Sander used. And then only on disassemble and assemble will a air ratchet will be used. But YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN I MIGHT NEED THE EXTRA AIR, is what I am trying to get at.
The picture is the exact model I am going to use. I have not received the delivery of mine yet. But that is the exact model.
In reference to the two stage, I think I was delirious at the moment. I was meaning to reference that it had two pumps mounted on it. Sorry. It was late. I had been working all night.
Thanks oldred for looking at my post and taking the time to understand what I am trying to accomplish here. By far, I am not shooting you down on anything, I am merely just trying to understand. And if I don't discuss it, It will sit on my mind, and later on, I will cuss myself. lol
First off you have me very puzzled about the listed specs of only 1 1/2 HP and 6 CFM for each compressor unit, are you sure about that? I am certain those three cylinder pumps are capable of a lot more than that even if they are single stage, however if the 1 1/2 HP rating is correct then the CFM sounds about right. For sure an extra 250 gallon tank would be major overkill here and while that much storage would indeed add a usable amount of run time if that 12 (total) CFM rating is correct then it will not add as much as you might think and you will still find yourself running out of air, the recharge time for 330 gallons of storage with only 12 CFM input would be a real pain to work with. 12 CFM is just not enough to run a decent size body shop no matter how much storage you might have because the extra run time is still going to be a trade-off and the larger the tank the bigger the problem. Those huge tanks you mention are for very large usage rates such as you might find in a multiple employee shop or factory setting and they must be mated to a compressor(s) of a rating that closely approximates the normal demand, this is to prevent unreasonable cycle rates that would occur with a huge demand and a relatively small tank capacity. Tank capacity needs to be sized according to CFM input and demand and unbalancing this pump/tank ratio, either too big or too small, will create problems.
Is this going to be a multi-employe shop? How big is your CFM demand anticipated to be? If you will be exceeding your compressor capacity by more than 10% on a regular basis then you need a larger compressor and a larger tank mated to one that is too small will only compound the problem. If the extremely long recharge time is not going to be a problem, although I would think that it would be in a body shop, then that much storage would work to supply cooler and drier air but the extended run times could be very hard on the pumps and motors. If your primary concern is cooler drier air then there are better means to do this and IMO you would be much better off with the 80 gallon tank you have if indeed you have only 12 CFM.
We need a little more info here since this is apparently to power a large shop. What is the AMP/Voltage ratings on those motors? How much peak CFM demand do you anticipate?
I notice you said "two stage motor" ? Were you instead referring to the pumps? Those actually are single stage pumps pictured there, is that a picture of the actual compressor you intend to use?
|with that setup, you will not need extra air... the reason they sell such a thing is most for larger equipment... the only benefit you would get out of a storage tank, would be colder air, but being the compressor you bought has a drier ontop of it ( which is an air conditioning unit basicly ) I doubt you will have a problem.. not to mention, it would take your compressor double the time to pump up after you drain the tanks.. you would benefit more with a second drier setup if you were worried about the air temp
I have found another thread about this, I would love to have an answer from oldred. He seems to post the most about these type of topics.
First, what I have realized is, all the negativity about getting a secondary tank, is u need to increase ur CFM and that going from a 60 gallon tank to a 80 gallon tank will only make a little difference. As quoted from oldred "adding a larger tank will allow it to run a bit longer (usually less than a minute or only seconds). But I am going from an 80 Gallon tank to a 250 gallon tank. That is a big difference.
Secondly, If there is no reason for a secondary tank, then why is it that they sell them for this purpose, and I have went to several high end paint companies, and a majority of them have huge reservoir tanks? Some upwards of 2500 gallons
Here is the other thread.
Storage Tank for Air Compressor?
Before I get started with my question, I just want to state that I have done a lot of research before I asked this. First, I understand that when purchasing an air compressor its not about tank size but CFM. Second, I have been in the Automotive collision company for 10 years. I don't need an argument like every other post about CFM. Thats already understood.
I am now building my own shop. By far, I am not going cheap. I am spending over $300,000 dollars between the building and supplies, but am on a limited budget.
My Question:
I just bought a $5000 Curtis Climate controlled air compressor. It provides clean, dry controlled air, with a dryer on it. It is a duplex air compressor. Meaning, It has two motors. Each motor is a two stage 1.5 HP motor, each rated at 6.0CFM, both motors are mounted on a 80 Gallon Tank.
I have a four door garage bay and a two door paint booth. Its a 7000sqft custom built building. I think I'm going to have a problem with air storage. I needed a quality air compressor, that is good for high end paint jobs. Not one that just can supply lots of HOT air to all my equipment. Hot air is a killer for high end paint. Example: Some DuPont paints are as high as $600 a pint. I can not afford to repaint because changing air temp or cause there is water in the lines.
So, I have been told by many of shops and paint companies that this size of compressor will do the job. This is not a small compressor. Yet, I am thinking of buying an additional 250 Gallon Reservoir Tank. I also will not be painting inside the paint booth when any equipment is running. I actually will be painting by myself at night.
So, basically my question is, if I had another 250 gallon tank, will my standard equipment like sanders and grinders last longer? I realize that once the air has decreased enough in both tanks and the air compressor kicks on, that a total of 12CFM will not keep up. That I probably should let the tank fill up before using it again. Yet again, I needed a quality air compressor over High Volume.
What most people dont realize, that u never are using a sander or grinder or air gun for a long period of time. Like a spray gun, u might only spray for 5 to 10 minutes, then u have to wait between coats, which usually is about 1 hour. So, the air compressor would have plenty of time to refill the tank. If sanding, a lot of times, u only use an orbital sander for a few minutes, then u have to block it by hand. So again the tank should be filled up between task.
The shop will be up and running in about 1 month. So, I will really know what this compressor really can do. I'll let u guys know.
But what do you guys think about adding another tank???
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hey guy I think we are getting on he same wavelength...you are making the same deductions I am...I am pretty sure that this car is almost all stock from the day it was built only has 51,000 miles....the distributor was like rusted in place when i tried to bump up the timing last night,,,and what a difference that made. i just cranked it up with no light and waited to hear for any rattling which there is none...I haven't driven it far but it really woke that 305 up. maybe it will overheat,,we'll see. What a b****h it was to get to that dist clamp bolt, so much crap on that engine there isn't room to slip in a piece of paper. I removed and bent some stuff...stupid designers. Or maybe they wanted that way to prevent tampering...like the rolls royces of some years that locked their hoods shut because they didn't want the owners fooling around under there. i think you are probably;y correct about that 400 switch but like you i'm thinking I should have almost everything there already. I found some stuff that maybe be the vacuum switch on the manifold and there is a couple switches activated on the brake pedal arm... I doubt there is room for any more there. Anywho...i disconnected the trans form any wiring and could not tell the difference at all. No tach to tell rpms...Maybe the thing never worked to begin with. I will attempt to get it to operate eventually but I have a warm fuzzy feeling now that I know that it will still work almost the same without it. Time will tell...I hooked it back up for now...my driving is stop and go with speeds up to 60 or so on pretty much flat roads, I will try to be more sensitive to the effect and if it is engaging...I also have a old 92 lincoln continental winter bomb that has an overdrive and I can definitely tell when that one is operating..sometimes right around 42mph it bogs it right out if you try to drive that speed with it in overdrive. I think my system is all there and is complete...working?? I don't' know...but it apparently has more to it than just the three switches listed in that thread...the distributor has some relationship as does the carb itself so there will obviously be more sorting out of the items later.
I consulted one of my many motor manuals and found some reference but it really doesn't show the same setup at all..once I start stripping out all the old systems I will be able to better identify what goes to what. I am making a note of that part and will have it on hand when the time comes. Thanks.
I had to chuckle at myself just a little, when I dicovered the exact same (word for word) post from Houston54 right here on hotrodders.com.
Now I might be wrong ... but the TH350C has to be using some sort of electric solenoid valve to control the TC lockup, just like the overdrive units. Houston54's post seems to confirm this, and hints that a solenoid out of a 200-4R may even work instead.
NAPA Echlin # TCS536
is what is listed for an 83 El Camino "with 3 speed A/T"
Something else that seems to be confusing me just a little is if that transmission of yours is original to the vehicle ... wouldn't the converter lockup system already be there?
Perhaps somebody simply removed or disconnected that vacuum switch?
To my understanding, there are two (or more) things that will disengage the lock-up converter.
1.) The brake switch ... for obvious reasons.
2.) The vacuum switch. This is for when you are pulling up a hill for example. The reduced manifold vacuum "tells" the transmission that the engine is working hard, and could use that little extra RPM before having to force a downshift to 2nd gear. I'm sure it's also there to protect the converter lockup clutch.
My ex-son-in-law had an 88 Chevy C1500 with a 350 / 700R4 pulling a U-Haul trailer through the Rocky Mountains ... and the lockup function was pretty obvious to me. The RPM would pick up just a few hundred RPM going up a gentle slope, then settle back down on the flat. When a steeper, or longer slope was encountered ... you would note the lockup disengaging first ... followed by a downshift (or downshifts) later.
In other words ... if you're cruising at 1800 RPM in OD, you will see / hear / feel the RPM's pick up to about 2100 when the converter un-locks. Whereas an actual downshift will take the tach into the 3000 + range. (Numbers are approximated)
66gmc...Amen...I did see that thread late last night with the parts listed and finally felt some relief. Now I'm trying to figure out what my car already has as far as those parts go....he was retrofitting the trans to his old 30's vintage truck while I am just trying to use my original trans here. This morning I replaced the second oil sending unit ,,this one down by the filter and now have normal pressure readings at the gage...the pegged gage was giving me some worries. High oil pressure, I am told, usually is caused by spun bearings. At any rate, I unhooked the connections to the trans and personally could not tell any difference in a test drive. Now I;m wondering if it ever worked. Any way to tell that you know of? So it appears as tho the engine swap with the edelbrock carb can be done and the act of getting the lockup to work can be done at my leisure. I am trying to trace the parts on my car already but it is difficult not knowing what all the things are under there....I do see a vacuum switch of types with some wiring to it...i think it might be it...it's mounted on the intake to the right rear of the engine. Now to trace the wiring and lines. Three wires on the trans but engine compt so crowded with hoses and crap..it is hard to track them. It's going to be so much cleaner in there without the air pump and other non-essential items. I can see that I will have to fabricate some standoffs to use with the headers to allow the AC to be retained. In the course of all this investigation I have uncovered many issues, one being the valve covers leaking....I thought that I had snugged them up before but it must have been some other car because these felt like finger tight. Maybe the oil will stop running down he sides of the engine now...I didn't realize how bad it was till I got under there again. It didn't seem to dripping that much but the engine and trans is a mess with it. The other link was for the overdrive trans which is not applicable to the 350..no internal wiring or switches.
Thanks again for the input. It looks as though I have it just about licked.
BTW ... I'm *reasonably sure* that the vacuum switch that I posted earlier would also work for a TH350C application. You may have to either make your own wiring harness of modify one of the Painless ones.
This theory *may* be reinforced here.
Scroll down to the last post in that thread for another (related) link.
|ok thats enough of that,,,this is not a group therapy session,,,we're supposed to be talking car talk here. napa burnt me...i wrote them off. lets just accept that and move on.
|Hey guys, I guess I have thrown a pall over all of napa over that incident. I have dealt with other napa's and with electrical parts for a golf cart when I was camping up north, solenoids to be specific and they did allow me to test and return to get the right part. The points thing happened locally and I was a regular up to that point, with my 100$ bombs back in those days ... beleive me,,,I was in their store plenty. I seriously doubt that your eyes would have told you that these points were defective in their manufacture and I didn't just fall off the turnip truck putting points in a car either. One of the touchiest cars, point wise, I ever owned was 64 belvedere ex-interceptor car with a 383 4 sp and dual points....they had to be on the money or it just didn't' run right,,,a bit of a pain but when she was on, there wasn't many that could compete. And that was several years before I had this 71 318 cuda to replace the points in....like I said, I bought another set someplace else and had no issues so I take some offense to your insinuation that I don't' know what I am doing. Restocking? Resaleable?? I hope not, defects are defects...once discovered it should be no contest. Not that I am perfect...I am human and I make mistakes...I am also man enough to own up to them too. It appears as though you are saying it doesn't matter if an electrical part is defective, once you buy it the deal is closed. I had to buy some expensive starter motors in the past few years and can tell you that I would never accept a bad motor that cost me 150$, I use the best defense I can by charging expensive parts. Then if there's a problem I have the charge card to back me up in case I run into problems and better yet...my wife pays those bills with money I don't have to come up with. I never asked my local private parts store or advanced auto what their return policy was on such items but assumed that if I had a problem they would take care of me. I hope I never have to find out. There's nothing worse than disassembling your car to do a job and having the defective parts and having to put it all back together again and trying to do it all again later with hopefully good parts. Advance has a habit of giving the wrong parts it seems sometime but their return policy works for me. You have a better policy than my local napa dealer does or did..like I say //I don't go there except as a last resort. Burn me once, shame on you...burn me twice, shame on me. It's been like 30 years now and they have missed my business since then for the most part. I also work on other peoples cars...usually fixing things instead of just replacing,,,very few fix anymore,,,just throw new parts at it until the problem is solved. I'm sure you have the trust of your regular customers and wish you well in the future, my trust got broke and in the words of the famous designer, Mr Schmidt..when a rattlesnake bites me I don't pat him on the back. And remember respect is a two way street. I'm not a rocket scientist but more of an elephant I guess...I don't forget things easily.
Another little secret ...
If I get some guy that comes in furious and throwing a fit ... bad-mouthing us to everyone in line and promising to never darken my door again ...
I'll take him at his word.
A promise is a promise, after all.
I really do believe in being given the chance to work it out reasonably and fairly.
I feel the same about a mechanical repair complaint...
Take it back to the shop that did the repair, and give them the chance to "make it right". Don't go back waving a bill from some other garage and expect reimbursement, because 9 times out of 10, you won't be getting it. Right?
Hmmm ... in regards to returns of starters and especially alternators.
That's getting to be a tough one.
Years ago an alternator was a $25 to $50 unit ... and had an external regulator. If it passed the "sniff test" and there were no signs of arcing or blueing on the terminals ... I'd probably take it back. Back in those days, we also used to have an electrical test bench ... where a 2-minute test could verify that it was operating normally.
Nowadays ... alternators are getting to be much more expensive and complex. I'd have to know and trust you before I'd consider taking it back.
A $10,000.00 / month account? Yes, no question.
I suggest that you might want to re-read what I posted.
I said that I *would* take them (the points) back.
The "points checker thingie" is my eyes (and fingers)...
I also said that I *don't* hassle my customers one the return of "electrical" parts. (i.e. points, switches, signal flashers, trouble lights, etc)
Firstly ... because I don't believe that it's worth a potential confrontation over a lousy $10.00 part. Secondly, I try to put myself in the customers shoes. Most of us DIY-ers are not professional technicians and tend to make some poor diagnostic decisions from time to time ... I *get* that.
I have a few very simple, common-sense rules (IMO) when it comes to returns.
1.) If our store sold it to you, and there is no doubt in my staff's mind that it's in resalable condition ... we'll take it back.
2.) If it came from our stock ... there will be no re-stocking charge.
3.) Non-stocked items ... You will pay what I pay in regards to re-stocking and freight charges (in both directions), and will be subject to any of the supplier's rules. If they say it's non-returnable ...
IMO ... we have a very FAIR return policy. You may want to reconsider painting EVERY NAPA store with the same opinion brush. I'm just sayin' ...
I'll also say this again.
Not trying to make this all about NAPA and returns but you often get better treatment if you are a regular customer.
I can return almost anything at the two stores I buy from...but O'Reilly's? Not a chance. Since they are the highest priced in town they seldom see me.
Most stores around here also do not take back any electrical returns.. starters, alternators, ignition, etc. You own it once you bought it. But, again, I can get away with a better deal as can most shops and repair guys.
Good luck on your swap...
|ha....and so how would you know the points were defective unless you tried to install them and they wouldn't open? Is that a catch 22? You got some points checker thingie that can verify them before you try to put them in? That would be bogus reasoning in my book. Nothing solid state about a set of strictly mechanical points. I guess I never had trouble with such a simple part from anywhere else and had to try to return the junk. I got another set from a reputable parts house and had no issues. The defect was strictly mechanical in nature. There was no arcing as they never opened at all...the cam follower wouldn't make contact with the cam at all. I guess you must be a napa guy or something, sorry if it hit a nerve with you...it hit mine a long time ago.
It really should read "No return on ELECTRONIC (solid state) parts".
Put it this way ... I wouldn't hassle you on a set of $10.00 points. It's pretty easy to visually check them. If you had installed them, there would be a mark from tightening the screw ... and/or if they were overheated and blue, they'd be your little souvenir, etc.
I had a guy bring back a $150.00 VW ignition coil a couple of months ago ... claiming that he hadn't installed it. It passed the "stink" test, but it had been marked by the coil wire clip. When I 'called' him on that he sheepishly admitted to trying it ... and that it didn't make any difference.
I decided to send it back to NAPA on a "goodwill" claim, and told him that I'd refund his money as long as NAPA deemed it to be in "re-saleable condition". They did, and I did.
Moral of the story? Tell the truth to begin with, and perhaps the counter guy will work WITH you. Respect is a 2-way street.
hey, Valkyrie5.7, thanks for the reply. The engine came with a new hei distributor that I will use...that engine assembly was originally intended for 78 malibu project that never made it according to the seller. The headers should fit the elco too as I did a search and found the same application for both. Good idea on the search..I will give it shot. I did see some stuff for doing the 400r swap but when I found I had a 6 inch tailshaft and driveshaft mods were required, I decided to abandon that thought. I get so caught up in the search that I find it impossible to find what I really want sometimes and before I know it, it's time to go too bed. I am a cad designer and spend enough time on the computer all day and have little taste for it at home...unless I am having success on one of my searches,,, then I am gung ho. I only accidentally ran across this site the other day, and I am glad I did. I figured I might not get any response but you and others are definitely being helpful. I can relate to the repeating the same stuff over and over again. I have seen a million articles on doing swaps like these but never took the time to read then through as they weren't pertinent to anything I was doing,,,things have changed and I still have all those old mags... I need a clerk to find the articles for me now. If I wait a while the stories may come back around. I;m finding that the 83 camino is an outdated auto that not many carry parts for...I consider it to be a late model...guess I'm showing my age.
66GMC...thanks for the sources....I Presume those are for the 700/200r4 swaps? I'll be sticking to the th350c I think. I'll give napa a call to see if they have something for the lockup converter for me. I'm a little wary of any napa electrical stuff though,,,they do not allow returns of any electrical items.. the last I knew.. so if there's something wrong with it its your tough luck. I learned the hard way with a defective set of points many years ago and never go to them since, except as a last resort. Not that a set of points was breaking the bank...it's just the principal. I don't like to do business with people that don't stand behind what they sell.
NAPA Echlin TCL100 $74.09 (joe retail)
or if you prefer it in kit form ... ($240.00 -ish)
Painless #60109 for 700R4 / #60100 for 200-4R
FWIW, Don't use the distributor from the 305 in the 350. You can wire up a lock up converter switch via several means and a few companies sell a kit for it so you can retain the converter lock up on your th350c. Pretty common stuff, just do a little searching.
Start by searching something like "lock up converter switch th350c" in our search bar or Google. You'll find a ton of info and it keeps our regulars from having to feel like broken records.
As far as swapping in 700R4, the extra gear is nice, but without the right combo you can render your first gear useless. The 2004R has a way better gear spread for a performance car and also comes with overdrive.
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[Editor's note: For more on portrayals of Native Americans in the Twilight series, see Debbie Reese's American Indians in Children's Literature blog.]
written by Racialicious editor Latoya Peterson; originally published at Racialicious
I would have missed the Twilight phenomenon completely had it not been for my boyfriend's younger sisters. As the tale of Bella and Edward swept bookstores, ravaged Hot Topic, and launched a thousand live journal wars, I was blissfully unaware. It wasn't until the book Eclipse popped up on two adolescent wish lists that I decided to take a closer look into the much debated saga.
Back in 2008, we published a piece from Alyssa Valdes-Rodriguez on the Politics of Wizards and Vampires, though this mentioned race only lightly. Most of what people view problematic with the books is based in gender. While I am certainly in no position to judge anyone else's particular brand of paranormal escapism, I have to admit that the Twilight books don't hold much appeal for me. The reason? Bella, herself. I can't really deal with bland protagonists, especially women who seem to have nothing else to do but wait around to be saved.* I also have an issue reading long, drawn out virginity narratives – I've already had sex, so I've lost my patience for that kind of thing. Still, something in the second book piqued my interest: Jacob Black.
Maerhys writes about all the reasons to love Jacob Black:
I came into the books interested in the Edward/Bella romance but was happily surprised to see that Jacob Black was a prominent character, in purpose and/or dialogue, through out the entire series. I liked that these were modern Indians, the pre-werewolf Jacob seemed real enough, or common enough, a good kid interested in auto-mechanics, strong relationship with his father and friends. He had a sense of humor that made me laugh out loud often. I applauded when Meyer was clever enough to make Charlie and Billy best friends so that Jacob taking Bella on as a friend so quickly made sense to me. Of all the scenes at La Push, the time in the garage building the bikes, the Spaghetti Party with the Blacks and Clearwaters, and Breakfast Muffins with Emily felt the most authentic to me. I didn't mind the muffins over frybread because it was morning and it would have seemed heavy-handed to me to use frybread.
Which is true. Jacob and his family live on a reservation, but they are not perpetually in a time warp. Jacob is a prominent character – he is an established presence in New Moon, is a major part of the plot in Eclipse, and even assumes some of the narrative in Breaking Dawn. However, while there was much to love about the inclusion of Jacob, Meyer's portrayal of Jacob and the other Quileutes raised quite a few eyebrows.
Marhys explains:
Conversely, I wondered how every single Quileute was russet-colored (and if I never ever read "russet-colored" again it won't be a moment too soon). I live in the Southeast and in my family alone we range from every shade of brown to quite pale (like me) to Black like many of my cousins and other extended family. I would be lying if I did not think we're a good lookin' bunch of folks but we're not all insanely gorgeous like all of Meyer's Indians, aside from Kim. The exotification of was heavy-handed, most likely in Meyer's attempt to show that she thinks Indians are beautiful, strong, and we all but walk on water, *lol*, but, instead, it shoved me out of the story and reminded me that this was a non-Native writing Indian characters. [...]
My largest issues with the characterization of the Quileute Peoples in the novels are two-fold. The first is the complete acceptance of Bella in every aspect of Indian life and that no one had a problem with a red/white relationship between them. Fed/state recognized Nations have to deal with enrollment and most enrollment processes say something about blood quantum, that sort of thing is thought about where I am from, and Alexie has mentioned it more than once in his writings so I think Washington Indians think about it too, even if their dads are best buddies. I found it maddening that no one ever said anything about it, and even with first-person narration through Bella, I doubt that she would not have thought of it, overheard something or had conversation about it. It would not be beyond the pale sine Charlie and Billy were best friends, but to have never mentioned it? And there are no other interracial relationships mentioned? Maddening, I tell you. *lol* And, while, I could buy that Bella would be well-known in La Push and possibly accepted due to the Charlie/Billy connection, I cannot believe that she would be invited to the storytelling event or be taken to so quickly by Emily, and eventually, the rest of the pack. The second, possibly more annoying than the aforementioned, is rez-born and bred Jacob not understanding the role of Billy as an elder and not having a clue as to his clan or that he is the true Alpha. Again, if he had known but chosen to tell Bella something different in order not to reveal to much, to play stupid, I would find that conceivable, but true ignorance? I was dumbfounded and completely thrown from the story.
Indians as werewolves or otherworldly is old meme, but through out the first two novels and most of the third, I found the characters compelling enough to forgive the recapitulation of myth. I enjoyed the development of Jacob's psyche and the friendship between Bella and Jacob. However, when Meyer went there — the continuous over-bearing game-playing by Jacob for Bella's affections and, finally, culminating in the forced kiss and then the "suicide mission" manipulation in Eclipse, I felt like Meyer wanted me to hate Jacob and I admit that I did. [Bella as well, for all the Christian morality infused in these tales, the engaged woman seeking another man's kiss didn't do a whole lot for me.] I understand Jacob's motivations but the execution was beyond flawed. Possibly even older meme than Indians as werewolves is the Indian man so hot for the white girl that he manipulates her and finally forces her sexually. My estimation for the saga as a whole plummeted with these machinations to character and plot, possibly even more so when Bella decides that she is in love with Jacob as well as Edward. Perhaps it is my utter disbelief that so many men find Bella irresistible? If Jacob had imprinted on Bella, perhaps, I could suspend my disbelief, but he did not and he still fights for her, while simultaneously aware that he could imprint on another woman and that Bella is essentially addicted to Edward. Why does he go to all of the trouble? Further, I found it irritating that Jacob and Bella's relationship was used as a prop to illustrate that Bella had other choices but still chooses Edward, and conceivably, immortality.
Indeed. I read Marhys' summary before I read all the books, so at the time it didn't make much sense to me. However, I completed the full series over the weekend, and noticed a lot more than Marhys had time to cover.
People of Color are Exoticized and Sexualized – and often Dangerous
Marhys' writes about how "the subtext ran to the Hot!Indian" which I agree. I also think that Meyer's depictions of Jacob intentionally tried to make him as large, fierce and terrifying as possible. In Eclipse, Meyer puts in a scene that definitely shows how Jacob is the reckless bad boy to Edward's Victorian restraint:
Jacob's face hardened as we walked toward him, hand in hand.
I noticed other faces, too – the faces of my classmates. I noticed how their eyes widened as they took in all six foot seven inches of Jacob's long body, muscled up the way no normal sixteen-and-a-half year old ever had been. I saw those eyes rake over his tight black t-shirt – short-sleeved, though the day was unseasonably cool – his ragged, grease-smeared jeans, and the glossy black bike he leaned against. Their eyes didn't linger on his face – something about his expression had them glancing quickly away. And I noticed the wide berth everyone gave him, the bubble of space that no one dared to encroach on.
With a sense of astonishment, I realized Jacob looked dangerous to them. How odd. (Eclipse, p. 77)
So it should come as no surprise that some of the kids who viewed the altercation eventually said things like, "My money's on the big Indian." (Eclipse, p.90)
However, this sexuality also comes with a strong undercurrent of danger and force. Once again, in contrast to Edward who is often fighting off Bella's advances, Jacob forces himself on Bella:
His lips crushed mine, stopping my protest. He kissed me angrily, roughly, his other hand gripping tight around the back of my neck, making escape impossible. I shoved against his chest with all my strength, but he didn't even seem to notice. His mouth was soft, despite the anger, his lips molding to mine in a warm, unfamiliar way.
I grabbed at his face, trying to push it away, failing again. He seemed to notice this time, though, and it aggravated him. His lips forced mine open, and I could feel his hot breath in my mouth.
Acting on instinct, I let my hands drop to my side, and shut down. I opened my eyes and didn't fight, didn't feel…just waited for him to stop. (Eclipse, p. 331)
I never thought I'd ever type the phrase "rape-y," but that's exactly how that scene felt to me. Sadly, the dynamic continues onward in a strange way – Bella resists Jacob's advances, but still, some part of her wants to be with him.
My arms were already around his neck, so I grabbed two fistfuls of hair – ignoring the stabbing pain in my right hand – and fought back, struggling to pull my face away from his.
And Jacob misunderstood.
He was too strong to recognize that my hands, trying to yank his hair out by the roots, meant to cause him pain. Instead of anger, he imagined passion. He thought I was finally responding to him.
With a wild gasp, he brought his mouth back to min, his fingers clutching frantically against the skin at my waist.
The jolt of anger unbalanced my tenuous hold on self-control; his unexpected, ecstatic response overthrew it entirely. If there had been only triumph, I might have been able to resist him. But the utter defenselessness of his sudden joy cracked my determination, disabled it. My brain disconnected from my body and I was kissing him back. Against all reason, my lips were moving with his is strange, confusing ways they'd never moved before – because I didn't have to be careful with Jacob, and he certainly wasn't being careful with me. (Eclipse, p. 527)
Beauty Comes in White
Much is made of Bella's pale skin and Edward's cold, sparkly whiteness. It feels like every other other page, Bella refers to Edward's pale perfection. The Quilete men are praised for physical traits, but when Meyer describes women of color, she tends to bring me up short:
My first impression of Kim was that she was a nice girl, a little shy, and a little plain. She had a wide face, mostly cheekbones, with eyes too small to balance them out. Her nose and mouth were too broad for traditional beauty. Her flat black hair was thin and wispy in the wind that never seemed to let up atop the cliff. (Eclipse, p. 242)
She tries to make it sound better, having Bella view Kim through Jared (her imprinter), which reveals…well, more of the same, but this time groping for compliments:
His wondering eyes made me see new things about her – how her skin looked like russet-colored silk in the firelight, how the shape of her lips was a perfect double curve, how white her teeth were against them, how long her eyelashes were, brushing her cheek when she looked down. (Eclipse, p. 242)
When Meyer describes the vampires who arrive to show their support for the Cullens from the Amazon in the final book, Meyer's contemptuous gaze is present here as well:
"Carlisle," the taller of the two very tall ferine women greeted him when they arrived. Both of them seemed as if they'd been stretched – long arms and legs, long fingers, long black braids, and long faces with long noses. They wore nothing but animal skins – hide vests and tight fitting pants that laced on the sides with leather ties. It wasn't just their eccentric clothes that made them seem wild, but everything about them, from their restless crimson eyes to their sudden, darting movements. I'd never met any vampires less civilized. (Midnight Sun, pp. 612-613)
Bella (newly vamped, mind you!) still must default back to white womanhood pearl clutching. While Zafrina (one of the vamps from the Amazon) is trying to help train her in the event of a fight to the death, Bella still feels the need to mention:
I even fought once with Zafrina while Renesemee watched from Jacob's arms. I learned several tricks, but I never asked for her help again. In truth, though I like Zafrina very much and I knew she wouldn't really hurt me, the wild woman scared me to death. (Midnight Sun, p. 617)
Racial Slurs Abound
The two camps often trade insults – the werewolves call the vampires leeches, bloodsuckers, or Dracula (as well as their official names, the Cold Ones) while the vamps lob insults like dog and mongrel. Bella stays neutral mostly – until Jacob pisses her off and she starts calling him a dog and a mongrel – insults she would never hurl at Edward. Still, there is more or less a balance until the finale of the series. In Eclipse, Bella is exposed to a particular werewolf trait called imprinting:
"Quil…imprinted….with a two-year-old?" I was finally able to ask.
"It happens." Jacob shrugged. He bent to grab another rock and sent it flying out into the bay. "Or so the stories say."
"But she's a baby," I protested.
He looked at me with dark amusement. "Quil's not getting any older," he reminded me, a bit of acid in his tone. "He'll just have to be patient for a few decades."
"I…don't know what to say."
I was trying my hardest not to be critical, but in truth, I was horrified. Until now, nothing about the werewolves had bothered me since the day I'd found out they weren't committing the murders I'd suspected them of.
"You're making judgments," he accused, "I can see it on your face."
"Sorry," I muttered. "But it sounds really creepy."
"It's not like that – you've got it all wrong," Jacob defended his friend, suddenly vehement. "I've seen what its like, through his eyes. There's nothing romantic about it at all, not for Quil, not now." He took a deep breath, frustrated. "It's so hard to describe. It's not like love at first sight, really. It's more like…gravity moves. When you see her, suddenly, it's not the earth holding you here any more. She does. And nothing matters more than her. And you would do anything for her…you become whatever she needs you to be. , whether that's a protector, or a lover, or a friend, or a brother.
"Quil will be the best, kindest big brother any kid ever had. There isn't a toddler on the planet that will be more carefully looked after than that little girl will be. And then, when's she's older and needs a friend, he'll be more understanding, trustworthy, and reliable than anyone else she knows. And then, when she's grown up, they'll be as happy as Emily and Sam." A strange, bitter edge sharpened his tone at the very end, when he spoke of Sam.
"Doesn't Claire get a choice here?"
"Of course. But why wouldn't she choose him, in the end? He'll be her perfect match. Like he was designed for her alone. (Eclipse, pp. 175 -176)
People, that scene was foreshadowing. After three books of longing and pining over Bella, Meyer finally rewards Jacob – by allowing him to imprint on her infant half-vampire daughter. My eyes rolled back in my head so hard, they almost did a triple-axel onto the floor. Now, this development isn't as bad as it seems – the half-vampire baby will fully mature in about eight years, and as Jacob explained above, this type of bonding isn't necessarily sexual.
However, the imprinting did appear to give the household new license to hate Jacob, call him dog and mongrel to his face, and this time, Bella joins in. Some friend she is. Jacob turned on his Pack, risked his life multiple times, revealed critical weaknesses for his tribe, maintained the flimsy treaty between vampires and werewolves, and went through immesurable pain in order to make Bella feel like a nice person – if he had asked to eat the damn baby, it would have been a fair request.
But of course, a brown man's destiny is to suffer to save the white woman her tears.
Now, Meyer doesn't completely screw over Jacob. If she's not trying to prove how brutish Jacob is, he tends to be one of the more self-aware characters, with some of the best lines in the series:
"Take it easy, Bella."
"Shut up, Jacob. Just shut up! This is so unfair!"
"Did you seriously just stamp your foot? I thought girls only did that on TV." (Eclipse, p.119)
Often, he voices things the reader wishes we could say to Bella.
"Is [Edward] your warden, now, too? You know, I saw this story on the news last week about controlling, abusive teenage relationships and –" (Eclipse, p.224)
And sometimes, he talks common sense with a healthy dose of swagger:
"He's like a drug for you, Bella." His voice was still gentle, not critical. "I see that you can't live without him now. It's too late. But I would have been healthier for you. Not a drug; I would have been the air, the sun." (Eclipse, p. 599)
The problem is that Jacob is too good for his own good. Noble, long suffering, never in need of anything that would inconvenience Bella…hmm, where have we seen that trope before?
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*This almost derailed my love of Kelley Armstrong – I couldn't relate to her first heroine, Page Davis, but liked the world and the side characters so much that I decided to stick it out. Luckily, my patience was rewarded and she switched narrators after a few books.


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