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- 08-12-07 10:59 AM #1Cadillac Owners Member
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Rear wiper sprayer?
Well just like with adjustable pedals, the rear wiper sprayer doesn't work. I hear the motor kick on and the wiper moves, but no wiper fluid sprays out. I just topped off the wiper fluid reservoir and the front wiper sprayers work just fine.
Just to verify the rear wiper gets the fluid from the front right? It doesn't have a second reservoir in the back does it?
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Yes. Only one reservoir.
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Various problems on the rear washer. Some as I recall had kinked hose. Our '04 was clogged. I was able to open it using my small air compressor at home by being able to get enough pressure in the opening to unclog it.
Take it to the dealer for warranty repair.
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I would take it to the dealer but I'm out of warranty, I might try the air compressor though.
Do you know where the kink in the hose normally was? I might try fixing that too.
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Mine had the hose connector off back when it was new. It was spraying the insides of the hatch! I fixed it myself by removing the inside trim of the rear hatch and re-connecting the hose; far more secure than originally.
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fad, what year?
Some '04 and '05 models were prone to clogging.
I'd advise against using compressed air in certain ways, you could blow the lines apart someplace you can't reach!
What typically happens is the rear nozzle gets plugged and possibly the hoses in the rear gate.
You need to remove the end gate trim panel. There is a single screw in the right rear corner handle opening.
Then the panel just pulls down... but be careful not to damage the wires for the lighting.
Have an assistant hold the panel up while you lower the panel near the light and disconnect it from behind the panel.
Then just pull it straight down.
You can now access the hoses. Remove the check valve in the middle of the hose, follow it you'll see it, and look at the lines. If they are full of goup, you might have to replace the whole hose assembly.
Otherwise you can undo the passthrough grommet at the roof. There is a rubber boot that goes to the body from the door, undo it from the body and feed the hose out so you can disconnect it.
With the hose disconnected at the roof, you can use your compressed air to blow towards the nozzle with the check valve out.
Likewise with the other half of the hose that goes to the motor and nozzle. You can remove the nozzle on the outside by removing the pivot cover, then use a pair of pliers and gently pull the nozzle out of the wiper pivot.
Use your compressed air to blow through the other half of the hose.
If you get it cleared out and the check valve is not blocked up, you can put it together.
The dealer should have a new nozzle in stock, and maybe a hose.
A word of warning if you get the whole hose in the gate, the rubber tip on the end that connects to the motor is the wrong size! Remove the old one and replace the end on the new hose with the old rubber elbow.
The rest is pretty straight forward.Subject: Insufficient or No Fluid/Spray From Rear Window Washer on Lift Gate (Check for Proper Hose Connection or Replace Nozzle) #04-08-43-002A - (07/01/2004)
Models: 2004 Cadillac SRX
This bulletin is being revised to add another condition. Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 04-08-43-002 (Section 08 - Body and Accessories).
Condition 1
Some customers may comment that the rear window washer is inoperative.
Cause 1
A chemical from the hose may have plugged the wiper nozzle.
Correction 1
Important: Do not twist the nozzle when removing or it may break. Grasp the nozzle with a pair of pliers and pull straight off.
Replace the washer nozzle. If the nozzle end breaks off, use an airdrill motor with a 2 mm (3/32 in) drill. Using light pressure, rapidly trigger the switch so that the drill bites into the remaining part of the nozzle and pull out. The broken nozzle piece is about 14 mm (1/2 in) long. Flush the system by activating the washer.
Condition 2
Some customers may comment that the fluid spray from the rear window washer is not sufficient.
Cause 2
This condition may be due to the rear window washer hose being disconnected, pinched/kinked at the headliner to lift gate connection located at the upper RH corner of the lift gate hinge panel.
Correction 2
Open the lift gate.
Disconnect the washer hose and wiring harness grommet from the upper RH corner of the lift gate hinge panel.
Carefully pull back the grommet to access the washer hose (1).
Check the rear window washer hose (1). Ensure the hose is properly connected and NOT pinched or kinked.
Connect the grommet to the upper RH corner of the lift gate hinge panel.
Close the lift gate.
Verify proper operation.
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Re: Rear wiper sprayer?
Have they found a nozzle that actually sprays water on the window? Mine hits the rear light and runs straight down the window.
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The little steel insert can actually be aimed. Just put a pin or something in it and move it the direction it needs to go.
You can make it go higher or lower pretty easily.
Just check it after you adjust it.
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Re: Rear wiper sprayer?
Mine car (delivered new) wasn't spraying. I figured it was a priming issue. I then decided to press it all the time, even holding at times during driving. Sure enough one day it started working
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Re: Rear wiper sprayer?
If it is under warranty the dealer should fix it, if it isn't under warranty they should still be able to resolve the issue quickly.
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I had the same issue, wasn't spraying at all. There is a splice, in the liftgate, on the passenger side, just below the window. Popped off the panel, on passenger side, found the splice was undone, applied some 3m molding adhesive and slid back together. Snapped the liftgate back in place and water was coming out the nozzle. Also found that the aiming nozzle was broken off on mine, it sprayed straight out back (james bond trick), anyway, dealer order me a new insert, installed it, and all works perfect now. cost me about $8 for the entire repair.
- 06-19-13 08:58 AM #13orandaberg Guest
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When I removed the washer bottle when replacing the brake lines I occidentally connected the wind-shield hose to the rear and rear to the wind-shield pump, so when I turned on the front sprayer I could hear fluid in the rear but none coming out so I took off the rear panel and looked at the connections, they were OK, then I removed the boot between rear hatch and body, the hose was busted! How I have no idea, so I cut a section and re connected, it worked only using the front wind-shield hose, so I reconnected the hoses in the proper way and its how it should be...but still no actuation of the rear pump, I removed the overhead console and looked, all the switches still function, pressing the center button still actuates the rear blade but no juice
I thought about switching the electrical connections from wind-shield to rear but could not reach the forward pump and was not about to remove the bottle again. Any ideas looking at the schematic why its not turning on the pump? I thought about using a assistant and have them push the button while I have a test light on the connection to see if it is getting 12 volts? Problem I live alone,no assistant.The pump has been bench tested and works.
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The rear pump is mounted higher than the front pump. Is bottle full enough?I thought about using a assistant and have them push the button while I have a test light on the connection to see if it is getting 12 volts?__________________________________________________ ________________
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- 06-19-13 10:00 AM #15orandaberg Guest
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The rear pump is in the middle and is lower then the front pump,bottle is full. I have headlight washer. Strange the center switch will activate the rear wiper but not the wash motor looking at the schemactic


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"...gems and crystals and veins of precious ore glint in the polished walls; and the light glows through folded marbles, shell-like, translucent as the living hands of Queen Galadriel." From Gimli's description of Aglarond, The Two Towers, III 8, The Road to Isengard
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Gimli stopped his steady trudge through the narrow tunnel and turned, raising his torch higher to better see the path behind him. Once again, Legolas had paused some yards back to peer closely at the stone. He had told the blasted elf to stay close. There were many tunnels to these caves, and he had no mind to waste time backtracking when Legolas got lost. Some time before, Gimli had found him gaping directly above himself into the darkness. What caught the elf's attention the dwarf could not guess, but Gimli was running out of patience for his leisurely pace. At this rate of travel, with the true sight still some way ahead, they would see it in a matter of years.
Once sure Legolas was indeed following him, Gimli continued, running his hand along the wall. He did not have such high expectations as to think the rock would be of interest to the elf, but that was all there was for the moment. Stone to their right, to their left, below their feet, and above their heads. He sighed with appreciation. It was comforting to be surrounded by solid, trustworthy rock. Comfort was likely not what Legolas felt, but he grew weary of trying to decipher the infuriating elf.
He had been truly excited to bring his friend to see the Glittering Caves, but while Legolas had readily agreed to the excursion, he had been quiet throughout their ride, rarely speaking except in response to Gimli. This contemplative mood baffled Gimli, and he soon became unsure of why he was so intent on showing this place to the elf. It was after all, made entirely of stone. Not a tree or leaf in sight. Not even his favored stars. Perhaps Legolas had submitted to this trek only to negotiate Gimli's agreement to go to Fangorn. It could be that Legolas was not interested in the cave at all.
Legolas's continued reticence began to irritate Gimli. Unable to carry on a one-sided conversation, he soon stopped trying, and left to his own thoughts, he began to question more than the wisdom of this journey. By the time they reached Helm's Deep, Gimli had nearly concluded that no elf and dwarf could form a lasting friendship. It was not in their nature, not after so many centuries of animosity.
He is, after all, an elf, Gimli thought. Strange, flighty creatures. I'll never understand them. What was I thinking? Bringing an elf to a cave! If he doesn't drive me mad, I'll – well, perhaps I'll show him the way out. Where is he now?
"Come, Legolas, I told you not to get lost."
"Yes, Gimli, I am right behind you."
Gimli suppressed a low growl and the urge to jump at the elf's apparently sudden proximity. Was it too much to ask that the elf make some noise once in while, so he knew he was there? In the dim light he was sure he could see Legolas smile. The arrogant – He cut off his thought abruptly and continued forward in silence.
Gimli was some distance ahead when he emerged into the main chamber, and much of his frustration dissipated at once. He smiled to see the wondrous sight of Aglarond once more, and he let go of any concerns for what Legolas would think or feel or whether he was lost somewhere. The beauty of this place was enough reason to clamber and squeeze through tunnel and stone. The shining walls and ceiling were like no other cave he had seen. This space was truly a magnificent work of nature in Middle-earth.
Gimli turned as Legolas appeared below a sea of stars revealed in no sky the elf had ever known. The dwarf watched as wonder grew in Legolas's face and the contradictions of youth and innocence in the ageless elf reminded Gimli of what had intrigued him about his friend in the first place.
Legolas slowed as he walked out into the cavernous space, standing entirely still for long moments. Gimli noticed then the elf's eyes. They always did have a shine to them he found hard to explain, but that glimmer seemed intensified now. He glanced up at the ceiling of the cavern just as Legolas was doing, taking in the minerals embedded in the rock and reflecting the torchlight he held. Then he realized that Legolas's eyes were reflecting the light coming off the veins of ore and crystal. It was as beautiful a sight as the gem-encrusted ceiling he had been so eager to share with his friend, and he had a sudden vision of Elves with gems for eyes. Did Elves see themselves this way? He thought to tell Legolas how his eyes looked under the glitter of the cave, but what words would he use? And how would he understand what he could not see? Besides, in trying to express such a strange thought, he might sound as flighty as an Elf. No, this was something he would keep to himself.
Finally, Legolas spoke, eyes still focused above. "I thought much during our journey to this place on what I might find. I took in all around me – tree and grass, brook and cloud – sights I have long treasured. I wondered how this sight would fare compared to those great gifts of Middle-earth. I must admit, dear Gimli, I greatly underestimated what gifts stone could offer."
So that was the reason for his silence! Confounded –
Suddenly, Gimli was brought out of his reverie by a loud joyful laugh. Legolas continued to look about the cavern, laughing as he turned this way and that. The blasted elf is laughing – oh, he is enjoying it. He is pleased with Aglarond! It was truly my fervent hope. This visit to the Cave was made all the more exceptional by a sound the dwarf was sure these stone walls had never heard: an elf's laughter. Gimli felt the last of his frustration melt away with that sound as it echoed off the cave's walls and he smiled with pride. Now he has gifted me with such a unique gift as I will find trouble repaying. Realization came over him then, and his musings of the past day were reduced to nothing. To think, I am friend of an Elf. An Elf! I enjoy his presence, his song, his laughter. Even more so because I brought forth this laughter – with rock! I, Gimli, son of Gloín, have taught an Elf to see beauty in stone. And I see beauty in him here as he laughs with joy. Perhaps it may be so with other Elves and Dwarves. For if we can learn beauty from each other, cannot the rest of our people?
Legolas began turning in circles while he looked about. He was still fascinated with the ceiling most of all, which looked like nothing less than a star-filled night's sky. His laughter escalated before reducing to giggles and soon he dropped himself to the ground, lying back to appreciate the cave.
But they are still the flightiest of creatures! Well, they are certainly not perfect. Why did I wonder at him today when all his actions are strange! True I will never understand him. But it does not diminish our friendship. And he is the finest friend a Dwarf – or any creature – could have.
Legolas sat up suddenly. "Gimli, do you understand? Do–"
"Yes, Legolas," he answered with a patient smile. "I understand." Does he not know his joy shines in his eyes?
"You must understand, Gimli…"
Of course, an Elf must speak even when words are not needed.
He continued from the floor, "There – there is beauty here. Here, in rock. I – I am an Elf! And I have found beauty in rock!" Gimli chuckled at the nonsense his usually eloquent friend was spouting. The smile eased from the elf's face then. "And you have taught me this, my friend."
Gimli's face slowly creased into a larger smile. "Yes, my friend, I did."
"I would, if I may, bring other Elves to see this beauty. And they will see it! And so, they will learn to see beauty in Dwarves, I think." He looked over to his friend. "We can do much for our people here."
"Yes, we can. And we will. Perhaps we may find a way to use these Glittering Caves to bring our people together." Gimli rested a hand on his friend's shoulder. "Are you ready to go then?"
Legolas smiled up at his friend knowingly. "I would stay a while longer, if you would."
Gimli nodded, and took a seat beside him, never revealing how the heart inside him was bursting with joy. He had not admitted to himself how he had hoped Legolas would want to stay, or how much he had hoped the elf would see the beauty of this place and know it for what it was. He looked about and suddenly the beauty of Galadriel came to his mind, as it often did. These gems might be deserving of her presence, perhaps even of her gift.
Suddenly, he was startled by a new sound. When he realized what it was, it was if the Lady herself had become more beautiful before his eyes. He could not have imagined such a thing possible, but as it continued, it seemed as natural as earth itself. For Legolas had begun to sing, and the echo of the tones reverberated and created a second song in perfect harmony with the first. Now, the beauty of the Caves was indeed perfect.
He looked upon his friend as he sang. Yes, there is beauty in the Elves, and not only the Lady of the Wood. The elf's song complemented the beauty of these caves, just as Gimli and Legolas complemented each other in a friendship no Dwarf or Elf had thought possible for centuries.
Perhaps this beauty, in stone, in elf, in the friendship between us, can be the very bridge between our people.


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The S&P 500 dropped 0.4% to 1,763.31, while the Dow Jones Industrial Average fell 0.4% to 15,618.76. The Nasdaq Composite finished down 0.6% at 3,930.62.
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Bond prices are slipping after the Federal Reserve released its latest policy statement, which as expected didn't do anything on the tapering front.
The statement removed a reference from the previous statement to the Fed being worried about the effect of rising mortgage rates, replacing it with "the recovery in the housing sector slowed somewhat in recent months."
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[The Fed kept intact its] promise that bond purchases will remain in place for a while longer and that the gap between tapering and an actual rise in interest rates will be lengthy. We continue to take issue with the latter, since we believe that the FOMC continues to underestimate both the speed with which employment conditions are improving and inflationary pressures are building. We do not doubt the honesty of the committee, merely its ability to accurately gauge the trajectory of an economic cycle which has consistently surprised it.


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Windows XP contains a huge list of special effects and visual enhancements such as nimated menus, fade effects, cursor shadows, menu shadows, ... etc. Disabling some of these settings can make Windows XP running faster and use less system resources.
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tick the box that says "Turn off automatic updating..."
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Movie 43 producer tries new marketing technique
posted at 2:50 pm on January 29, 2013 by Ed Morrissey
The new Peter Farrelly film Movie 43 isn't getting bad reviews. It's getting spectacularly bad reviews, perhaps the worst reviews of any film in years. I spent an hour this weekend reading the reviews linked at Rotten Tomatoes (where only 4% of the reviews are in any way positive) just for fun. Thankfully, many of them included spoilers to give anyone thinking about spending money on it a chance to recover their good senses.
Farrelly has devised a new marketing scheme to recover from the consequences of his product. He wants people to quit talking about it:
It has been dubbed the worst film of all time and "the Citizen Kane of awful" by critics. In fact, so unimpressed was director Peter Farrelly with the reaction to his new film Movie 43 that he took to Twitter at the weekend to warn reviewers to "lighten up" and "back off".
"To the critics: Movie 43 is not the end of the world. It's just a $6-million movie where we tried to do something different. Now back off," wrote Farrelly under the Farrelly Bros handle he shares with brother Bobby, with whom he co-wrote hit comedies such as There's Something About Mary and Stuck On You. "To the critics: You always complain that Hollywood never gives you new stuff, and then when you get it, you flip out," he added in a separate 140-character missive. "Lighten up."
We can call this the silence-of-mouth strategy!
By the way, read the reviews and you'll see the absurdity of Farrelly's claim that Movie 43 is "new stuff." It's just the nearly ubiquitous gross-out humor that's been around for decades, only (according to the critics) entirely devoid of wit, originality, or humor. One reviewer wrote that even if she had received it free on a DVD, it would still have wasted her time and money. Expect to have the opportunity to avoid it soon on cable.


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Abydos, 100 km north of Luxor, was regarded as a particularly sacred place. This was due to a belief that the god Osiris was buried there. This conviction was probably linked to the fact that the first kings of Egypt from c. 3000 to 2650 BC were actually buried at Abydos. Around the tombs of the kings their retinue were interred in small side burials. Whether they died natural deaths or were forced through violence to follow their kings remains unknown.
Valley enclosure in Abydos with small side burials. Photo: Matthew Adams
As far back as 1899-1904 Petrie had excavated the royal tombs in the desert at Abydos, tombs which dated from Egypt's early history, c. 3000-2650 BC. Preceding him, the Frenchman, Emile Amélineau, had, in Petrie's opinion, almost obliterated the site. There were, however, still important finds to make. When Petrie returned to Abydos in 1921-22, it was to examine some large mudbrick enclosures down in the Nile Valley. They were a kind of cult precinct associated with the royal tombs. Around them lay the small side burials of the king's retinue, arranged in the same way as around the royal tombs themselves.


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Two months away, and my first post back is going to be a request, since I'm too swamped to write up my hostile thoughts on the Authors' Guild irritating lawsuit against Michigan et al. For the curious, I did manage to finish my book on libraries and the Enlightenment, and I'm working on editorial revision suggestions at the moment. So no blogging, but I've done a bunch of writing in the last two months and I'll be plugging it like crazy once it's published.
To the request. Last spring, our library conducted a wide-ranging survey of faculty and students that got a lot of feedback. As I was reading through the hundreds of written comments, I kept thinking that the frustrations some scholars have might be lessened if they knew more about scholarly publishing in general and how research libraries work. I don't mean how scholars use them, but what goes on in the background, all the messy stuff we often try to hide from library users behind a seamless facade.
It might still annoy someone that X journal isn't available online for the last year or Y ebook is the only version we have when they really want the print or that what they want is in offsite storage and they have to wait a day to get it, but at least they'd understand why. As a departmental liaison, I especially want people to understand that it's not my fault, or the library's fault, and that the best intentioned librarians still have to work within a system they don't control. I also want to present this as information, not advocacy, so I won't be talking up open access or pillorying publishers.
As a consequence, I'm putting together a presentation for grad students and faculty about how libraries work, especially large research libraries, and the initial group I pitched it to seemed interested. Here's a list of topics I've thought about so far, loosely divided into content and process/policy:
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- Archives/ Gray literature/ Unusual stuff
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- Why the stuff is, or is not, in the main library building
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I'm hoping to fit that all together into a somewhat coherent 30-45 minutes. I have two requests, since I know a lot of my readers probably have similar issues.
1) have any of you done similar presentations for faculty or students, and if so could you share what you covered with me?
And 2) do any of you have other suggestions for general information about how libraries work that I'm missing, but that might be useful for scholars to know?
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Do you ever psych yourself out about life? Like all of the sudden, you feel like you're not doing something right – even though yesterday you felt totally on top of it? Yeah, that feeling sucks.
How do you shake it?
My food processor is a surprisingly useful tool in dealing with these situations of mental stress. If something edible, and I daresay delicious, comes about because I decided to put a bunch of things in that food processor – things suddenly feel a little better. I'm on the right track. I've restored some sense of control.
It might be a combination of the simplicity of preparation, the loud noise it makes, and watching pieces of food get pulverized. I'm not sure.
I was looking to use some extra coriander and limes I had when I found a chilli sauce on Nigella Kitchen that fit the bill.
It's similar to a typical fresh salsa with a spicy punch and a citrus zing, but has a smokiness from the roasted red peppers.
I omitted most of the oil that Nigella used in her version because I thought the sauce was the right consistency without it. It clings to a chip properly, without being too thick or sludgy.
It's perfect for bringing to a party and scoring bonus points for making something (when you barely did anything.)
Or for enjoying alone while watching old episodes of Nigella, drinking a frosty beer, and taking a moment to breathe.
Jumbo Chilli Sauce
adapted from Nigella Lawson
– 3 whole roasted red peppers (jarred, to make it easy)
– 1 clove of garlic, peeled
– 2 hot chilli peppers (I used one red and one green) with seeds in tact but top stems removed and cut in half
– 1/2 cup coriander stems roughly chopped
– Zest of one lime
– Juice of one lime
– 1/2 cup coriander leaves
– 1 tablespoon olive oil
– salt
Drain the red peppers of any excess liquid.
Place roasted red peppers, garlic, chilli peppers, coriander stems, lime zest and juice in a food processor and puree until finely chopped and almost smooth. Add salt, olive oil and coriander leaves and blitz again until everything is blended and smooth.
Serve with tortilla chips.


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Rutgers' Vincent Garrett Transfers to Green Bay
By: Ryan Hartwig (@RyanHartwig)
GREEN BAY, Wis. (GreenBayPhoenix.com) – Vincent Garrett, a 6-foot-6, 220-pound guard who played his junior season at Rutgers in 2012-13, has transferred to Green Bay, men's basketball head coach Brian Wardle announced on Tuesday. Garrett has one year of eligibility remaining, and Green Bay will consider a petition to the NCAA for eligibility next season.
Garrett is a 2010 graduate of Marshall High School in Chicago, where he was a teammate of current Phoenix players Keifer Sykes and Alfonzo McKinnie.
"That was a big attraction," Garrett said. "Keifer Sykes and Al (McKinnie) told me how much they love playing for Coach Wardle and the coaching staff, and for me to be with players I know I'm comfortable with and who know my style of play – that's a big plus.
"As soon as Keifer heard I was transferring he told Coach Wardle about me and when I visited Green Bay I really appreciated how honest and straight-forward coach was with me about everything. I really like the team's fast style of play and I can see myself fitting in great with the guys. I'm a very athletic guy who can run the floor and can score the ball well, but most of all I'm just looking to help my team win."
He becomes the fourth member of Green Bay's 2013 recruiting class, as Wardle also inked combo guard Tevin Findlay in May and Little Chute High School teammates Kenneth Lowe and Turner Botz in November's early signing period.
"We are extremely excited to add Vince Garrett to our Phoenix family," Wardle said. "He is a hungry, tough and experienced young man who is eager to help our program continue to improve. His versatility and competitive nature adds depth to our roster. Vince is also another Marshall High School player, who we know won't back down to anyone and will be very entertaining for Phoenix fans to watch."
Garrett started his collegiate career at Lee Junior College in Baytown, Texas, under head coach Roy Champagne. An All-Region South Zone First Team pick in 2011-12, the athletic, scoring wing averaged 16 points, six rebounds and two assists per game and helped the Rebels to a 19-12 overall record.
Garrett signed a National Letter of Intent (NLI) to play at Rutgers in April of 2012, and appeared in 12 games for the Scarlet Knights as a junior last season, averaging 1.5 points per contest.
As a senior at Marshall High School under head coach Henry Cotton, he averaged 16 points and 11 rebounds per game to earn All-Public honors and help the Commandos to a 28-7 record. Along with Sykes and McKinnie, Garrett aided Marshall to an appearance in the 2010 city championship game, a regional title and a third-place finish in the Class 3A State Tournament. He also posted a strong performance in the 2010 Chicago High School All-Star Classic, registering 12 points and nine rebounds.
Garrett was highly-touted coming out junior college, reportedly receiving scholarship offers from Oregon State, Texas A&M and UNLV in addition to Rutgers.
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Ugh. I got my car back from the dealership two days ago. They're still stuck on the "bad gas" theory and added dry gas and drove the car for 50 miles to see if it would act up. They said that they have been in contact with Subaru throughout all of this, and this is what they suggested. No CELs...yet, but my idles, especially from a cold start are still ridiculously rough.
I'm not pleased with how this has all been handled.


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My mother-in-law gave me this recipe, and I've used it often. It's a nice change of pace from your basic lettuce and tomato salad.
Recommended: 19 Recipes for Homemade Salad Dressing
- 12 thick tomato slices
- 1/2 cup olive oil
- 2 to 3 tablespoons red wine vinegar
- 1 garlic clove, minced
- 1 teaspoon snipped fresh oregano
- 1/2 teaspoon salt
- 1/4 teaspoon pepper
- 1/4 teaspoon ground mustard
- 6 large lettuce leaves
- Minced green onions
- Minced fresh parsley
- Arrange tomato slices in an 8-in. square dish; set aside. In a small bowl, whisk together oil, vinegar, garlic, oregano, salt, pepper and mustard. Pour over tomatoes. Cover and chill for 1-2 hours.
- To serve, place each lettuce leaf on an individual plate and top with two tomato slices. Drizzle with dressing. Sprinkle with onions and parsley. Yield: 6 servings.
Originally published as Tomato Vinaigrette in Country Extra September 1993, p47
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BATON ROUGE LaSondra Barrett, one of the most versatile players in LSU women's basketball history, has returned to the school and her Lady Tiger team in the newly created position of Director of Player Development, LSU Lady Tiger Head Coach Nikki Fargas announced.
BATON ROUGE Rakell Spencer, one of the nation's top high school players two years ago, has transferred to LSU from Texas A&M, head coach Nikki Fargas announced on Saturday.
BATON ROUGE, La. The LSU Hall of Fame Committee has unanimously approved the retirement of the jersey of all-America women's basketball player and three-time Olympic gold medalist Sylvia Fowles.
BATON ROUGE, La. Rina Hill and Jasmine Rhodes are among the 66 LSU student-athletes slated to earn degrees in graduation ceremonies Friday at the Maravich Assembly Center.
BIRMINGHAM, Ala. Thirty-seven LSU student-athletes from the men's basketball, women's basketball, gymnastics, and swimming and diving teams earned recognition for the SEC Winter Academic Honor Roll.
BATON ROUGE, La. --- Registration is now open for the Nikki Caldwell Basketball Camps that will be held in June at the Pete Maravich Assembly Center on the LSU campus.
BATON ROUGE, La. --- LSU women's basketball duo Raigyne Moncrief and Chloe Jackson earned two of the state's four specialty awards presented by the Louisiana Sports Writers Association.
BATON ROUGE, La. --- The LSU women's basketball team held its annual team banquet inside the South Club Suites at Tiger Stadium Thursday evening as the coaching staff presented several team awards at the event.
BATON ROUGE, La. --- Tickets are available for the 2017 LSU women's basketball awards banquet to be held on Thursday, April 6, at the South Stadium Club.
WACO, Texas --- The LSU women's basketball team fell to the California Golden Bears, 55-52, here at the Ferrell Center on Baylor's campus in the first round of the NCAA Tournament Saturday evening.
BATON ROUGE Clarence Christenson, who served as an assistant coach with both Dale Brown and the late Sue Gunter for close to two decades, passed away early Wednesday at the age of 82.
WACO, Texas The joy was so real on Monday night when the pairings for the NCAA Women's Tournament were revealed and LSU was back in the big dance.
WACO, Texas --- LSU's journey through the NCAA Women's Basketball Championship begins Saturday evening when the Lady Tigers face the California Golden Bears in the first-round matchup.
BATON ROUGE, La. --- Coach Nikki Fargas and several players met with members of the local media following the NCAA Selection Show on Monday.
BATON ROUGE -- For the 25th time in school history, the LSU women's basketball team will be playing in the NCAA Tournament as announced on ESPN Monday evening.
GREENVILLE, S.C. --- Despite 25 points by junior Raigyne Moncrief, the LSU women's basketball team fell to No. 6 Mississippi State, 78-61, in the quarterfinals of the SEC Tournament here at Bon Secours Wellness Arena Friday evening.
GREENVILLE, S.C. --- Chloe Jackson powered LSU with a double-double of 22 points and a career-high 14 rebounds as LSU advanced to the quarterfinals of the SEC Tournament with a 65-49 win over Ole Miss here at Bon Secours Wellness Arena Thursday evening.
BATON ROUGE, La. --- As the No. 7 seed in the SEC Tournament, the LSU women's basketball team will face 10th-seeded Ole Miss on Thursday, March 2, at Bon Secours Wellness Arena in Greenville, S.C.
BATON ROUGE, La. --- Junior guard Raigyne Moncrief was selected SEC Defensive Player of the Year as announced by the league office Tuesday.
BATON ROUGE, La. --- After defeating Vanderbilt earlier today, LSU secured the No. 7 seed and will face No. 10 seed Ole Miss in its first game of the SEC Women's Basketball Tournament.
BATON ROUGE, La. --- The LSU women's basketball team defeated Vanderbilt 64-58 in their final game of the regular season here at the Maravich Center Sunday afternoon.
BATON ROUGE, La. --- It's the final home game for Lady Tiger seniors Jasmine Rhodes, Rina Hill and Alexis Hyder as LSU hosts Vanderbilt in the final regular-season game on Sunday. Tipoff is slated for 12 p.m., at the PMAC.
AUBURN, Ala. --- The LSU women's basketball team saw a seven-point lead slip away late in the fourth quarter as Auburn rallied in the final three minutes for a 54-49 win over LSU here at Auburn Arena Thursday evening.
BATON ROUGE, La. --- LSU senior guard Rina Hill earned SEC Community Service Team honors for her dedication and commitment off the court as announced by the conference office Wednesday.
BATON ROUGE, La. --- The regular season is coming to a close for the LSU women's basketball team and seeding for the SEC Tournament next week is on the line. The Lady Tigers face Auburn on the road Thursday evening.


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I got a new back tire for my 01' CR 125, a bag of teriyaki beef jerky, $75, and a change jar. and that's just on Christmas eve :P
I got a new back tire for my 01' CR 125, a bag of teriyaki beef jerky, $75, and a change jar. and that's just on Christmas eve :P
A SAS Survival Guide, Books on psychology, STALKER Shadow of Chernobyl
I was not given gifts because i am not a Christian.
Well, it's not Christmas, but my aunt gave me a $100 visa card :woop:
I got a gift card to best buy with an unknown amount of money on it from some distant relatives, dunno other than that since it's not quite Christmas here yet. I have no idea what I could be getting either since I don't make it a habit to ask for anything, or show any interest in anything. Probably some candy and a bit of cash.
A keyboard I don't like. The keys are really flat and shallow and the function keys don't actually have F1-F12 on them; just irritating little icons. That wouldn't be so bad though, but on top of that they don't have breaks beteen F4/5 and F8/9. The "oh so wonderful" multimedia keys are iffy and don't work consistently either.
Feels bad man.
Still waiting for my mum and dad and 2 other brothers to come down since its like 5am now in England
Nothing :smith:
I was gifted some Steam games, and my uncle gave me a ton of records 2 1/2 boxes.
haven't gotten anything yet, but i wrote an open letter to santa
To Mr. S. Claus,
Let's skip the pleasantries and get right down to business, you sick minded criminal.
Mr. Claus, I believe you should rethink your current career choice as, according to my research, although you have no criminal history per se, your previous activities over the past century can be charged for the following:
•Breaking and Entering, modus operandi Chimneys
•Petty theft of Milk and Cookies
•Violating international airspace laws: no license plate, let alone radio identification on your Reindeer Powered Air Vehicle (RPAV), and no previous clearance to fly
•Driving without a seatbelt
•Possible criminal trespass against children
•Manual labor of elves
Finally, all of these charges can tantamount to criminal conspiracy, and I've only begun to list them. However, Mr. Claus, I am a reasonable man. In a matter of fact, I reason very well when it comes to doing things that benefit me, and you have several things I want. Want for Christmas, that is.
Unless you want to be turned in to the FBI, you shall give me the following items for Christmas:
1. A Ferrari
2. 3 of your magical flying reindeer
3. A Ferrari
4. That makes two Ferraris
5. A Private Jet
6. One PC copy of Left 4 Dead
7. One HK416 Assault Rifle + Cartridges
8. A girlfriend, 12-16, blonde hair
9. A lifetime supply of cherry Pie
10. Your Arctic Base of Operations
11. $1,000,000,000 in gold bullion
12. Two 50-megaton atomic bombs
13. Russia
What I do NOT want for Christmas:
1. A cheaper and less quality sports car.
2. The FBI knocking on my door.
You have until December 25th, 12:00 AM central time to fulfill these demands. I have a trained sniper on Mrs. Claus and the entire complex rigged to explode. If anything does not go according to plan, I can and will take drastic action.
Have a good one,
Two $25 Wal-Mart gift cards, and FUEL on steam.
A 50 inch plasma for the living room, giving me the 30 inch for my room. Another Xbox 360 for my sister with Kinect. Forza 3 and just a few other bits and bobs.
Autographed baseball by the 1982 World Series Brewers
Nicon Coolpix Camara
Xbox 360 controler
Burris Rifle scope
My mom was afraid I was disappointed that it wasn't enough, I'm giving half of it to charity because of that.
Roccat Kone+
Hello Kitty Bracelet
A purse
A toy spider (Very funny, I have a huge phobia of spiders)
Make-up set
And around £50 (plus a bunch of stuff I haven't opened)
I feel awful as I haven't been able to gift anyone this christmas :( Next year, I'll make it up to all of you!
I already got $80 and I haven't even opened any presents or gone to sleep yet.
I love rich uncles and aunts.
My brother got me Amnesia! I'm gonna stay up late tonight just so I can play it!
Drum kit, Sweets and money.
What I got: two pairs of pants and a long sleeve shirt.
What I was supposed to get, but due to extraordinary circumstances did not receive: A Creative Fatal1ty headset (don't knock the brand, it's a good headset) and a 5770. Both were held up because paypal cocked up the order. Also the Hardcover Rulebook for Warmachine, in the madness this slipped through the cracks and was never ordered.
A little disappointed but I'll let it go, it is Christmas after all, they'll be re-ordered and should be on my doorstep by Wednesday with any luck.
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I haven't got the slightest clue, as I told my parents to surprise me. More than likely though, it will be something computer related.
It's 9:34 on Christmas Eve over here.
PC Parts.
I also gifted people some games.
(Hello daijitsu)
Opened most of my gifts today (well yesterday its been Christmas for half an hour)
and so far:
-CoD Black Ops
-50$ cash (All in 1's, I'm assuming my grandmother must be a stripper)
-A "mirror" rubix cube. Things trippy and a bitch.
-Pajama pants
-Everlast gym-in-a-box thing. Which is cool but the doorframe pullup bar broke and almost killed me.
-The Eleventh Doctor Who's sonic screwdriver
Apparently I have a "big" present left to open today, and there's some things in the mail that didnt make it in time. Those are:
-AC Brotherhood
-Skate 3
-Yoyos (hobby)
So, yah, good Christmas.
I got Black Ops, an iPod dock, a t-shirt that says "Fuck this, lets dance" and some Jelly Babies. I am happy. :3:
A fucking blowdryer and a FUCKING COMB. WHAT THE FUCK
Laptop cooling pad
Enslaved: Odyssey to the West
Singularity (both of those for 360 as my lappy sucks)
Replacement Red Dead Redemption as my old one got zorked
Inception DVD
At the Mountains of Madness by HP Lovecraft and Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? by Philip K. Dick
VGA extension cable (gonna hook it up to my TV)
One of those Fushigi contact juggling balls
iPod Touch 4G, 32 gig and a $50 iTunes card.
Pretty good year.
My college just sent me $330ish by check, which I didn't expect at all. Apparently, I overpaid my tuition, so they waited till' X-mas. Cool. Now I have to pay to back for my next tuition bill
-snip got ninja'ed-
2 T Shirts
A soldering iron (my uncle is coming over for christmas and I need to learn how to solder guitar pickups, so he's going to teach me :fuckyou:)
All 3 Bourne movies
A ticket to The Getaway Plan reclamation tour
A book
A small christmas tree made of choclate


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Originally Posted by Grizz View Post
Riding was very good today. Things are looking up for the PNW. Will colder temps and precip quench this shit tornado of a thread?
Ha, yeah this thread sucks... guessing you are right. Snow=lessdramasmorestoke
|Riding was very good today. Things are looking up for the PNW. Will colder temps and precip quench this shit tornado of a thread?
Thanks, no prob......
I respect your opinion and all but one thing you do need to understand with regard to this point that you made:
I think you may have assumed that I am one of those people who says things online that I would not say in person; this is truly not the case. I absolutely say the the things I say online in person as well. To be honest there is no need to be prepared to throw down either because again, a passionate, even heated argument for a position really is NOT a personal attack.
If you and I were sitting at bar or at a backyard picnic having the same discussion and I said the exact word with the exact same level of passion, you would also see that it is not anger or dislike as a person. Body language and all the nuances in face to face communications convey things that just cannot be transferred via written form.
This brings me back to the original point that Blunted Nose brought up; many things on a forum like this get misread and misinterpreted because people do not have enough time interacting with the people and they form an opinion and once they get that set in their mind, it becomes extremely difficult to alter their perception no matter how incorrect it is.
Getting back to politics for a second, since you brought it up as an example, when I attack a position, I am not attacking the individual. I can absolutely hate a person`s political viewpoint yet still like them as an individual and enjoy their company. Granted, we reach a mutual understanding at some point to just agree to disagree on that subject. This is the way it is online as well. if you recall, I and Outlyr battled ruthlessly for weeks and pages upon pages, yet the minute we were outside of the politics section, if was a very friendly relationship. He asked my advice on a NS deck and I helped him out and honestly, we both would enjoy riding together and having a beer and even throwing barbs at one another over politics.
Another factor that comes up is there have been a few people who have been on this forum in politics who don`t understand the personal relationship or online history that people have with each other and feel it is their place to stick their noses into other people`s business and tell others how they should act. I have had this happen to distraction where I might have a long history with someone and my comments seem to this unnamed busy body as "angry"; then comes the pages upon pages of argument with this person trying to explain that I am not angry and they don't know the history.
So, Krug, I totally see your point as seen from your vantage point, but it is not a truly accurate vantage point and I am just trying to get you to think about the fact that there can be dynamics going on that create impressions that are not really a reflection on the reality of the situation.
Again, this related directly to the very point Blunted Nose was making in his first post; take the time to get to know the senior members awhile before forming hard set opinions about them.
And actually, I have never considered you to be one that couldn't back their shit up both on an intellectual level and if backed into a corner...you seem to carry yourself well, though I don't know you personally, one can get a sense and make an educated guess.
Even though I have posted on here for a few years, I still consisder myself a NOOB and obviously am still learning the dynamics of this board
Thanks for taking the time,
It's okay, name names! I will be the first one to fully admit, that my passion for debating political issues is high. Problem is though, many people tend to take that passion personally and interpret it as anger. This is especially true when a conservative sees a liberal actually show some backbone and have the balls to fight, sometimes savagely for their position. Liberals are supposed to be mousy little pussies; that's how conservatives paint them and their strategy has long been to just outshout and become more aggressive and liberals run away like cowards.
So, when you get a liberal who shouts back just as loud and gets just as aggressive, conservatives are shocked and confused so they label the liberal as angry and attacking. Yeah, I know the narrative well. The thing is, I am totally unapologetic abut fighting for the things I believe in and doing so aggressively.
That does not equate to anger though and the important thing to realize is that that a political forum is a place where that level of arguing is to be expected and thin skinned people tend to take offense easily. One thing you don't seam to mention is that some of us who will fight bitterly over a political difference in a political forum leave it at the door. Every member on this forum has seen me and some go at it toe toe in a political battle but when we talk in the gear or coaching threads is mutually respectful and friendly. This is the point blunted nose was making so many pages ago. New people jump to conclusions too soon without actually seeing the true long term interactions of senior members.
You bring up political battles in a thread that was the result of my having to moderate and lock a thread that became way too heated and personal over pro snowboarders. This had nothing to do with politics dude! Of all of shit storms I or the other admins and mods have to intervene, almost none are the result of the politics section. Every mod and admin will agree with me on this. I can't remember that last thread that needed to be locked in politics or the last member to get banned over a battle in politics.
We totally allow a much higher level of heated exchange in the politics section than elsewhere on the forum because that is the place fir that kind of exchange and why it is kept in it's own subforum. The gear, general, coaching, trips, etc section is an are we expect people to refrain from that and welcoming and friendly and helpful. We are going to moderate more in these sections because we want a different tone. It is not hypocrisy to react one way in the politics section then act and expect others to act a different way out here. There is a time a place for everything and what's okay in politics is not okay out here. I just think you don't fully understand these nuances, therefore you use politics as an example as you did.
I'll agree with your point about not understanding the nuances between the political threads and others. I guess I never really drew a line between the two, however, it is not always politics...that was just an easy example to throw out, especially with the last election.
I guess I go with the motto of, If I wouldn't have the balls to say it to your face and be ready to throw down, then I shouldn't say it. I've deleted many threads I was about to post after I thought about how it would come across.
Not trying to force my opinion on anyone on here, just throwing it out there since it is my opinion.
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Originally Posted by SnowRock View Post
I feel like I have fallen down a rabbit hole. As it relates to snowboarding, I am suggesting that the content here is far more useful than the "rich content" at TGR for the masses. I am also talking specifically about snowboarding, not the inherent value of knowledge.
...there is good information and even some good people to be found on the forum.... but the chaff you have to wade through, and the garbage that many folks like to put on the board is considerable. .
That statement sums up my overall opinion.
Again you are mixing apples and lollipops here. Why would someone making their first resort trip need to worry themselves about a beacon, shovel and rope? Or an "avy" course?
I feel like you are moving the goalposts a little bit here. Your original question was whether someone with my level of experience can really get much useful information from a forum with those kinds of posts. Yes, I can. A beginner, less so until they have more ancillary knowledge.... but there is still useful information to be gleaned nonetheless.
Largely.. yes I am suggesting just that. Please point me to some of the robust discussion of snowboarding technique for chutes? If its there I never seem to see it.
Pretty terrible example in my opinion. It shows you can follow directions not that you necessarily have learned or know anything. Give me someone that reads about a subject and has experience doing it.. For example, I am a pretty decent home cook.. have been doing it for a while and enjoy it. I'm certain that 9 times out of 10, I could cook something much better than someone that has only read about food and is following a recipe.
This tarzan dude really is a sociopath. After he posted about his first ever 4 day trip (he likes to call that a 'season') he is now bragging about how big of a desk jockey he is. And let's be honest, he is clearly better at being a jockey than he is at actually participating in snowsports.
Oh the beauty of this doucher trying to post at TGR.
|Lol, what a shitfest.
Originally Posted by Tarzanman View Post
We are venturing way off topic here but....
If that is the case then why do anything except eat, sleep, shower, and procreate? Why read a magazine/look at art/do anything abstract that does not serve a specific, practical purpose? Being informed or well read or however you describe it can have unintentional benefits. Do you suppose that it was a skier that discovered/invented the thiosulfate used in hand warmers? The polymers used in modern skis, or a dozen other examples? Maybe you don't really mean to say that knowledge isn't useful, but that is what your argument is stating.
He might learn that an airbag won't save his life if an avalanche drags him through trees and that Recco is a piss-poor alternative to having a beacon, pole, shovel, rope, and knowing how to use them. Or that if he ever does go into the BC that a basic avy course would be a better idea than blindly following some random bozo who might or might not know what they are doing.
Are you suggesting that there isn't anything I could read on TGR that might help me make it down Beartooth at JHMR without having to check my speed with a side slip every couple of yards?
It depends on the context. You can't learn to ride a motorcycle or ride a snowboard from reading about it on a forum, but you can certainly learn how to build/repair electronics and machines or how to field dress a wound (how is that for a random example?) well enough with only a book in front of you.
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OK, if you're finally ready to get off your high horse and stop denigrating everybody else, let's get to the facts. X:X X:X X:X
Let's explore your electricity claims: According to PG&E their current rate for residential customers is 18 cents per kw-hour. In 1996 it is 13 cents per kw-hour. That averages out to about a 2% increase per year. Is that your definition of high inflation? http://www.pge.com/tariffs/electric.shtml#RESELEC
Even at a low inflation rate of 2%, things will EVENTUALLY double in price. Complaining that prices keep going up in absolute values is being disingenuous to the debate; of course they go up unless we are deflating. Pay no attention to your home values dropping like a rock….
What we're debating here is rather or not we are inflating at 2%, 8%, or 13%. The DATA says 2% but our bee keepers seem to know something the experts don't. If we were inflating at 8%, then your electricity would be more like 44 cents per kw-hour. Is that what you are paying per kilowatt hour along with your $4 milk?


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Dashing hopes: Here comes the fiscal cliff
President Obama flew to Hawaii and went golfing. On Thursday, it was reported that he had spoken to neither House Speaker John Boehner nor Sen. Harry Reid for days. Boehner tried to pass a deal that would make true on Obama's pledge to raise taxes on "millionaires and billionaires. It would have kept the Bush-era tax rates for everyone who earns less than $1 million a year. But some Republicans thought that was too big a pill to swallow.
Harry Reid returned time and time again to the microphones to blame everything on Republicans. Never mind that he sent only one bill designed to embarrass them to the evil House Republicans to vote on.
Americans head into this weekend with hopes for a real economic recovery in the new year. Washington politicians enter it hoping to blame the other side for the inaction that prevents or delays that real recovery. Happy New Year.


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Canisius (1-2, 0-0 MAAC) vs. Elon (2-2, 0-0 Southern)
Date: Tuesday, November 19
Time: 5 p.m.
Location: Piscataway, N.J. | The RAC
TV/Webcast: None
Live Audio: AM-1400 (Buffalo) & GoGriffs.com
Talent: Jay Moran (p-x-p) and Dave Schofield (color)
Live Stats: GoGriffs.com
Twitter: @Griffs_MBB | #Griffs; #MAACHoops
The Canisius College men's basketball team returns to the hardwood tonight when the team plays Elon in the second round of the 2013 NIT Season Tip Off. This is the second time Canisius and Elon have met in the last eight months, having also played in the first round of the 2013 CIT last March.
• Elon comes into tonight's game with a 2-2 record after falling to Drexel 71-64 last night in the first game of the NIT Season Tip Off North Regional.
• The Phoenix opened the year with two wins before dropping each of their last two contests.
• Elon is averaging 80.5 points per game through four contests, highlighted by its 114-point effort against Washington & Lee in the season opener.
• Canisius' 51 points scored in the loss to Rutgers last night are the fewest points in a game for the team since the team lost to Fairfield 66-45 at home Jan. 3, 2013 - a span of 21 games.
• As a team, Canisius has dished out a total of 25 assists on 68 made field goals this year (36.8 percent)
• This is the 110th season of Canisius men's basketball. The Griffs are the first MAAC school to reach the 110-year varsity anniversary.
• This is the second time Canisius has taken part in the NIT Season Tip Off event. The Griffs are 1-2 all-time in the NIT Season Tip Off, having previously gone 1-1 in the 1994-95 preseason NIT event.
• Elon comes into tonight's game with a 2-2 overall record in 2013-14. The Phoenix lost to Drexel last night by a score of 71-64.
• The Phoenix opened the year 2-0 with wins over Washington & Lee and Marist, but have lost to Charlotte and Drexel in the last five days.
• Senior forward Lucas Troutman is one of five Elon players averaging double-figures in the scoring column with his team-high 16.0 points per game. He also leads the team with eight blocked shots.
• Senior forward Ryley Beaumont ranks second on the team with his 12.5 points per game and he leads the Phoenix with his 5.0 rebounds per outing. As a team, Elon is averaging 29.8 rebounds per game and just 5.0 offensive rebounds per contest this season.
• Senior Sebastian Koch and sophomore Tanner Samson are each chipping in 12.3 points per game this season. Junior Austin Hamilton leads the team by shooting 66.7 percent (16-for-24) from the field through four games.
• As a team, Elon is shooting 51.7 percent from the field, 37.4 percent from 3-point land and 80.6 percent from the free-throw line. Opponents are shooting 41.7 percent from the floor against the Phoenix's defense.
• Tonight's game between Canisius and Elon will be the second all-time meeting between the two schools, with the first meeting coming just eight months ago.
• Canisius and Elon met in the first round of the 2013 CIT, with the Golden Griffins earning a 69-53 win in the Koessler Athletic Center.


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Stacy Shares: On Thanks and Giving
November 22, 2012 at 3:00 pm stacymae Leave a comment
This activity is brought to you by Melissa & Doug, written by our Blog Ambassador Stacy Teet.
"How does your family practice Thanks and Giving?" –Stacy
As much as I would like to ignore it, my kids are getting bigger. I have noticed a direct correlation between how much bigger they are becoming and how much stuff we have in our home.
Three kids = a lot of stuff.
We purge "regularly" but could really stand to do more. We generally make a big deal about it, combing through the entire house searching for things our friends might need. I am typically surprised by how much they are willing to give–I'm usually the one to send a toy back to the playroom.
For years, we have been repeating this cycle. We pack up our extra stuff and deliver it to the big metal container near our house. There are photos posted there of the children who benefit from the donations. My kids feel a real connection with them.
It warms my heart each and every time. <- Remind me of this in a month and a half when it is time for another large purge!
First, we gave.
Now, we are practicing Thanks!
We are thankful for a warm home and plenty of toys, more toys than we need. We are thankful that for the first year ever we will have our whole family together for Thanksgiving without anyone having to fly to be here. We are thankful, most of all, for each other.
To us, that is what Thanksgiving is really all about. Being thankful for what we have right now and giving to others in areas we have too much or where we can bring a little joy and happiness.
We practiced Thanksgiving a few times this week, in our playroom with our favorite Melissa & Doug pretend play food and cooking utensils. Then at my daughter's school, where the kindergarteners made everything from butter to fresh cranberry sauce to corn on the cob. The food was delicious.
Now we are prepping for Thanksgiving at home. We are baking pies and gathering supplies, but we are also taking note of things we are thankful for this year. That little turkey head in the front says he is thankful for being able to play outside. Miss Turkey is thankful that her dog got to go to heaven this year and become an angel. And Big Brother Turkey says he is thankful to have a mom and dad who love him. 🙂
I am thankful for my three sweet turkey heads! What would I do without them.
Now you tell me, what are you thankful for this year?
Stacy Teet is the military mom–turned-supermom behind KidsStuffWorld. Her writing is chock-full of tips for enjoying parenthood, saving money, entertaining your kids and making your family's life a bit simpler. Check out her website, KidsStuffWorld.com, or follow her on Pinterest, Twitter or the KSW Facebook page.
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Hey all, just wanted to get some feedback on my freshly painted bm armor. I'm doing the ESB fett and I know there isnt as much weathering invloved but I chose to do a little more. Here's two pictures the second one is with flash. So let me know what you think if you have any suggestions I'd be more than happy to hear them.
The weathering was done using silver as a base coat then applying rubber cement, painting the yellow over it putting on more cement then the green then rubbing the cement off.


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|She only takes the S-Adenosyl and Cosequin DS. Neither says anything about being manufactured in China. She's only been on the Cosequin for a month or less. Other than that, she gets Purina One Lamb and Rice, and that's about it. Rarely does she get treats, maybe a biscuit now and then.
|lets rule a simple thing first, check all labels for any supplements and treats you might be giving and make sure they are not produced/mfg in china. these are know to cause some problems.
|BTW, we give her one 425mg pill of the S-Adenosyl per day, which is what is recommended for large dogs. I can ask if we can go up to 2 pills, or possibly supplement even more milk thistle.
Wow! Thanks for all the great responses. Sorry I babbled, and didn't give specifics on my first post.
She is 8, probably almost 9 years old now. Back in about May of this year she started losing a lot of weight, and pretty much stopped eating, and starting peeing in the house, drinking a lot and peeing constantly. It wasn't a UTI as we had originally suspected, though she was treated for one just in case. She was also put on SAMe, and she is now on S-Adenosyl which also has milk thistle, and is a whole lot cheaper from Amazon.
Although she lost a lot of weight originally, the vet wasn't worried 'cause of her size and the desire to keep them thin. So, in other words, they were telling us she was fat. She's about 80 pounds now, is back to eating regularly and normally, and has pretty much all of her energy back. That's why I was a little frustrated that her numbers were still high, though I guess I shouldn't have expected any miracle cure, since they could never tell us what was causing the numbers to be elevated.
I think I remember them doing the copper test, but I don't remember for sure. I'd have to ask. They also did a needle biopsy on her galbladder (??) if memory serves. That seemed to be the last fairly non-invasive thing they could come up with. They were looking for an infection, which could cause the liver problems. They didn't find anything.
I did ask about diet a while back. Trinity is VERY sensitive to diet changes, and in the vet's opinion, since she seemed to be feeling OK, best not to mess with the diet, since it could wind up causing more problems. She does seem to have one "issue" that I think is related. She seems to get a little backed up, and as a result, although she goes out several times a day, about once or twice a week, she unloads in the house.Beyond her not waking us up barking to go outside, I don't think she can help it because she's not had this problem before she got sick.
I'll read through all of the other ideas in detail and try them out.
Oh, and YES, it is Tramadol that she prescribed for her, but told us to use it ONLY as needed. She's never shown any hip issues until about a month ago. The problem is, our deck is about 7 steps off the ground. If I let her out the front door instead, she ends up on the deck. Creature of habit. I'll sit there calling her, and she'll be sitting by the back door. Not the sharpest tool on the shed. She has pretty much learned to stop at the bottom of the steps and carefully climb them instead of coming up like a freight train. She will still try to jump instead of using the steps when she's at another deck that is lower. That's when it really hurts her. I had the same problem with my first Shepherd, but he was a tad smarter, and learned that certain things hurt, so don't do it, and he lived with it just fine.
Crating isn't possible. She tears them to shreds and breaks out. We've thought about getting her a stainless steel, welded frame crate (very expensive), but then I'm afraid she'll break her teeth on it. She put a big gash on her snout the last time she took apart a metal crate. Fortunately she's not alone very often, as my wife is home, when not running around with the kids.
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Yep, milk thistle and SAM-e in combination. Ask a vet for the dosage, this is a common and effective treatment in humans, cats, and dogs. I used this combo on my cat in severe liver failure and brought him out of it.
Your vet will need to get your dosage for you, consult them before starting the products
|Yep, milk thistle and SAM-e in combination. Ask a vet for the dosage, this is a common and effective treatment in humans, cats, and dogs. I used this combo on my cat in severe liver failure and brought him out of it.
Has your dog's copper levels been assessed? Called Copper storage disease.
A holistic Vet that specializes in Nutrition may be needed...A home-made diet would be best, commercial diets contain very toxic substances including the synthetic vitamins and minerals themselves....these stress the liver and kidneys.
What is great about the liver is it's ability to rejuvinate - create new cells and heal. But not if constantly filtering inorganic wastes.
Things like milk thistle and dandilion are used to re-build and detoxify along with antioxidants and immune system modulators...
Adding spot on treatments should be stopped if haven't already as the elimination of pesticides are direct w/liver and kidney.
If it is copper storage disease, then a Holistic Vet can help chelate this mineral.
As for hip problem - good old fashioned bone stock...take raw bones, water and 1/4 cup vinegar, cook 24 hrs min. (use slow cooker), strain bones, bring to room temp refriderate over night, scim layer of fat - portion and freeze - I do 4 day portions at a 1/2c per day....but you can use a cup a day spliit am/pm
The use of chicken bones/cartilage is emphasized for type II collagen, but adding chicken feet, necks, beef soup bones (if really big bone, reserve cool it and re-use in next stock, just sadd more chicken bones)
Here's a link re: properties of bone stock (you will also note a very important relation to amino acid glutathione and the liver in this link)
The Healing Power of Bone Broth Transition Now
and copper storage disease
Liver Disease (Copper Storage) in Dogs | petMD
|SAM-e is support for the liver. Surprised they didn't offer you this as we work with a few vets in different places who know of and prescribe this.
|I believe the ALT number can be elevated for many reasons including stress, pain and dehydration. Ask your vet for possible causes.
|My girl Kiya is on seizure meds which wreaks havoc on the liver, her numbers average in the 350 range, talk to you vet about adding milkthistle into her diet. I have kept Kiya's numbers down considering she's been on the meds since 2005. There is also a liver cleansing diet that you can look into.
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Capri is a beautiful world-famous island found in the Gulf of Naples, off the shores of the Campania region, of which it is a part. The island of Capri is simply a small paradise, immersed in overwhelming natural beauty. Start your visit with a walk from the Natural Arc, which is a natural stair-like structure that descends down into the valley into the Grotta of Matermania; this cave was once a Roman place of relaxation, surrounded by nature. Continue with a funny and interesting visit to Miniature Capri, a path that will lead you to the places that have made Capri the tourist pearl that is today.If you don't mind the altitude, the best way to see Capri and the sea that surrounds it is by taking a ride on the chairlift. In 12 minutes, you'll be taken from an altitude of 286 meters to an altitude of almost 600 meters. This is the best way to see Capri. If you'll settle for nothing less than a natural wonder for a week or even a weekend, Capri could be the place for you. Visit EasyToBook.com to find the discount hotels Capri may offer; when staying in Capri, cheap hotels are a great idea to save you money. There are a number of different types of hotels in Capri, so read up on Capri hotels to find the one that's best for you.


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NIH/NIA Appropriations and Authorization Legislation:
Public Law 111-375 - National Alzheimer's Project Act:
On February 7, 2012, Dr. Francis Collins, NIH Director, announced an additional $50 million in research funds for Alzheimer's disease research in FY 2012. The Administration also announced an additional $80 million in the FY 2013 President's Budget.
On May 15, 2012, The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) released the National Plan to Address Alzheimer's. The Plan is available at: http://aspe.hhs.gov/daltcp/napa/. Secretary Kathleen Sebelius attended the Alzheimer's Disease Research Summit to announce the National Plan and the Public Awareness Campaign to help families and caregivers to know about federal resources.
Included in the National Plan is a listing of Federal and private Alzheimer's research activities and can be reviewed at: www.nia.nih.gov/research/dn/international-alzheimers-disease-research-portfolio. The portfolio uses the Common Alzheimer's Disease Research Ontology Collaboration (CADRO) to conduct portfolio analysis of Federal and private funders of Alzheimer's disease research activities. CADRO and the posted portfolio are a means to increase communication, inform about shared scientific priorities, and increase collaboration on a range of activities. CADRO was developed by NIA and the Alzheimer's Association.
Dr. Richard Hodes, National Alzheimer's Federal Council member and Chair, Federal Research Subgroup hosted the May 14-15, NIH Alzheimer's Disease Research Summit: Path to Prevention and Treatment. The Summit had approximately 600 participants in attendance representing 36 states and nine countries: Australia, Canada, Cameroon, Costa Rica, France, Ukraine, United Kingdom, and Russia.
Summit experts recommended research strategies to accelerate the development of successful therapies for AD across the disease continuum. Also identified were types of resources/infrastructure and new public private partnerships needed. Summit recommendations will be posted soon on the NIA website.
Congressional Briefings and Hearings:
On March 28, 2012, Dr. Francis Collins, Director, NIH, testified on the FY2013 President's Budget before the Senate Appropriations Subcommittee on Labor, HHS, Education (Senator Tom Harkin [D-IA], Chairman). Dr. Collins was accompanied by Drs. Richard Hodes, NIA Harold Varmus, Director, NCI, Anthony S. Fauci, Director, NIAID, Griffin Rodgers, Director, NIDDK, and Thomas Insel, Director, NIMH, and Acting Director, NCATS.
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Middle Georgia lawmaker James "Bubber" Epps Monday became the latest Democrat to jump ship to the state Republican Party. He is the eighth to do so since the general election. Kennesaw State political scientist Kerwin Swint says these moves aren't philosophical or ideological.
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Bacary Sagna admits Arsenal comeback victory against Tottenham on Saturday was a massive boost to the team's confidence.
Arsène Wenger's team produced a clinical attacking display after Emmanuel Adebayor's 18th minute red card to inflict an empahtic defeat on their north London rivals.
Sagna was thrilled with the display, and believes the victory could have real significance on the rest of the season.
"It's very important," he said. "We want to stick to the top. From now on, we just need to keep focused, look forward and win game by game.
"It was amazing to play. It's always a great pleasure to play [in] a derby, especially when you win. It's just great. We managed to score many goals."Copyright 2017 The Arsenal Football Club plc. Permission to use quotations from this article is granted subject to appropriate credit being given to www.arsenal.com as the source


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This thread is mostly BS and me asking how to do the conversion, I will do another thread on the actual conversion to cut out the useless info
I have an older model HF drill/mill like this one and I'm thinking about looking into CNC'ing it.
Anyone know where to look for info for doing the conversion? I tried to look around on the cnczone forum but only seen the square column models, and I didn't want to join another forum unless I had to.
I only seen one video for this model on YouTube and a couple companies selling complete kits but I think they're over priced.
I know this model isn't the best to convert but I know it can be done and I don't want to buy another machine


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September 20, 2010
United Nations Environment Programme
New York - Investing in clean energy, sustainable transport, forests and environmentally-friendly agriculture is essential, if internationally-agreed goals to reduce poverty are to be achieved.
This is among the central conclusions of A Brief for Policymakers on the Green Economy and the Millennium Development Goals (MDGs), launched today as heads of state and ministers meet at the UN Headquarters to review progress to date - five years before the MDG deadline of 2015.
Environmental degradation is making it more difficult for governments to achieve Millennium Development Goals such as improving maternal health, providing safe drinking water and combating hunger and disease.
Conversely some countries and communities are finding that environmental improvements, catalyzed by deliberate policy choices; smart investments and often private sector partnerships can be a big part of the solution, the new study claims.
Achim Steiner, UN Under-Secretary General and Executive Director of the UN Environment Programme (UNEP), said: "There is rapidly growing evidence that accelerating a transition to a low carbon, resource efficient, employment-generating Green Economy may not only be the key to meeting sustainability challenges of the 21st century, but also provide a considerable contribution to meeting other MDGs.
The report - compiled by UNEP's Green Economy team - cites numerous cases where green strategies are paying multiple dividends in respect to the eight MDGs.
Policies and investments in Costa Rica have triggered an expansion of protected areas and national parks, now covering over 25 per cent of the country's total land area.
The report, prepared for this week's UN Summit on MDGs in New York, also spotlights China's energy policy as set out in the country's 11th five year plan covering 2006-2010. The plan has fuelled a rapid rise in renewable energy manufacturing and installation.
Creative and forward-looking urban planning, allied to sustainable transport policies, have allowed the Brazilian city of Curitiba to grow more than six fold while simultaneously improving mobility and quality of life.
In Nepal, 14,000 Forest User Groups have reversed the deforestation rates of the 1990s through community-based policies which include setting harvesting rules, product prices and the sharing of profits.
Uganda, a country where 85 per cent of the working population is employed in agriculture, has turned to organic production to boost exports and incomes. Farm-gate prices for organic vanilla, ginger and pineapples are higher than for conventional produce.
Mr Steiner said: "The underlying task of the 21st century is to provide a secure and sustainable way of life for a world population that over the next four decades will increase in size by a third. It was this challenge that in September 2000 led world leaders to adopt the eight MDGs".
"On current trends it is likely that achieving all the MDGs by 2015 will be missed. In part because the responses so far have been embedded in a 20th century approach to a new century's challenges," he added.
"The Green Economy puts a fresh lens on the challenges and a spotlight on the multiple cost effective economic and social opportunities from investing and re-investing in modern clean-tech energy systems up to natural resource management of the planet's ecological infrastructure. In doing so, it addresses the economic, social and environmental objective of sustainable development and underscores the wealth of choices and options for sustained progress that meets the realities of our time," said Mr Steiner.
Some Key Points from the Report - Environmental Sustainability and the MDGs Inextricably Intertwined
The report, A Brief for Policymakers on the Green Economy and the Millennium Development Goals, underlines that the environmental goods and services that underpin the global economy - and in particular the GDP of the poor - are shrinking at a rapid rate.
It underscores how this loss of ecological infrastructure is undermining not only MDG7 on environmental sustainability but most if not all of the other MDGs and their associated targets.
Coral reefs in the Caribbean for example have declined by 80 per cent and globally 30 per cent of mangroves have been lost in the past two decades.
Both these ecosystems provide coastal defenses, tourism revenues and other services and income for local communities.
In addition they are nurseries for fish upon which a billion people rely directly for protein. The fate of coral reefs and mangroves are thus closely linked to the achievement of several MDGs, including MDG1 on hunger.
Forests are key sources of drinking water and nutrients for agriculture while providing essential goods such as wild foods and medicines.
Thus the fate of forests links to MDG1 on hunger, MDGs 4 and 5 on health and several targets of MDG7 such as halving the proportion of people without access to safe drinking water.
The rate of deforestation is slowing. In the past decade the annual loss of forest has averaged 13 million hectares, compared with 16 million hectares a year during the 1990s.
But this rate is still causing lasting environmental damage and currently close to 30 countries have lost 90 per cent of their original forest cover.
Investing and re-investing in forests would not only assist in meeting the aforementioned MDGs, but also in reducing greenhouse gas emissions linked with deforestation.
While there is no specific MDG for energy, the report points out that providing clean energy will underpin the success of many of the goals, both directly in terms of sustainable development and indirectly if climate change, linked to the burning of fossil fuels, is left unaddressed.
For example 14% of the population of developing countries and around a fifth of their urban dwellers live in low-lying coastal regions and are particularly vulnerable to the impacts of climate change, such as rising sea levels, coastal flooding and soil erosion.
Subsidies - A Possible Source of Additional MDG Funding
One way of financing the achievement of the MDGs is through re-directing subsidies.
Fossil fuels for example still attract over US$500 billion a year in government subsidies - and there is abundant evidence that these subsidies rarely reach the poor, despite the best intentions of governments.
Investing all or part of these subsidies in renewable energy technologies, such as solar and wind, could trigger new kinds of employment, faster access to electricity and greater social equity - a better overall standard of living.
There would be benefits for the environment including improvements in air pollution alongside an estimated six per cent cut in annual greenhouse gas emissions.
There are other green economy approaches: In Bangladesh a subsidiary of the Grameen Bank - Grameen Shakti - has pioneered microfinance to assist local people in buying solar heating systems.
Some 20,000 'green' jobs, many of which have been for women, have been generated, with an aim of creating 100,000 new jobs by 2015. The project thus meets many of the MDGs including MDG3 relating to gender equality.
Similar arguments are made in respect to fisheries where subsidies total some US$27 billion a year and are part of the reason why fish stocks in many parts of the world are in decline.
Re-directing around US$8 billion of these subsidies into improved management measures such as marine protected areas, tradable quotas, the retiring of vessels and the retraining of fisher-folk, could boost catches and conserve stocks.
The report also points to the multiple benefits from other policies, for example those that promote the certification of biodiversity-friendly agricultural products.
With the right backing, the market for such products could be worth US$210 billion by 2020 up from US$40 billion in 2008, generating new income flows while conserving the planet's natural capital.
Notes to Editors:
Launched in 2008 at the height of the global financial and economic crisis, UNEP's Green Economy Initiative provides macroeconomic analysis on policy reforms and investments in key sectors that can contribute to economic growth, creation of jobs, social equity and poverty reduction, while addressing climate risks and other ecological challenges. The Initiative undertakes a wide-range of research and provides advisory services to more then 20 countries interested in moving towards a green economy.
This report is one of in a suite of special briefs that draws on the preliminary findings of its flagship publication, the Green Economy Report, which is scheduled to be released in early 2011.
To download a copy of the report, visit: http://www.unep.org/greeneconomy
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