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Yes that sounds like it.
I'll try to record my Doxies getting hyped up and Pebbles redirecting, but honestly, it's something I prefer to avoid.
Kira's adrenalin was worked up and she needed somewhere for it to go. Another dog may have grabbed your leg, she grabbed a shoe and shook it.
Honestly, it's a good idea to keep things like that around (not a shoe but a dog toy!) so they can do that and work out their tensions safely.
This morning, Kira was laying on her ottoman in front of her window. She would sit there most of the day, just observing everything.
Occasionally, someone would pass by with a dog, and she would start barking. If I'm home, I call her off, and do my best to discourage this behavior.
Yesterday, she starts going bonkers at the window, and I call her off. She listened, and turned away. However, whatever it was, was irresistible, so she turned and wanted more. Again, I called her off. Se was all puffed up, and in a heightened state.
As she turned to walk towards me, she grabbed a nearby shoe, and started growling and shaking it like crazy.
Is this an example of redirected aggression?
Redirection is a real issue and some dogs will redirect on humans, if no other dog is around.
I had an issue of redirection by a collie against Dharma the last time we went to our old dog park. There was a woman, Linda (who I actually thought was a friend) who had an older collie named Kit. Kit like to chase balls. Well Pippa doesn't like to chase balls but she likes to run with the dogs that chase them. I tried repeatedly to keep her from running with Kit but Linda continued to say it was okay and allow it. So when Linda would throw the ball I would distract Pippa long enough to give Kit a long head start and then release Pippa since Pippa was much faster. This arrangement worked well, for awhile. One day Linda threw the ball while I was on the other side of the park cleaning up after Dharma. Pippa caught up to get and knocked Kit over. I didn't see it so I can't say if it was done on purpose or an accident. Pippa does like to play rough and will body slam her sister but at the same time she is faster than Kit and it could have been an accident as well. I looked up to see Kit getting rolled. Now to be fair, this is a dog park and dogs to get rolled. I know mine have, it happens
Well, Kit took GREAT offense at it and jumped up ready to fight. However, Pippa was long gone but Dharma was nearby minding her own business. She has a ball she loves and was playing with by herself. Kit then charged her and attacked her. Dharma tried desperately to submit. Linda and I were running across the park yelling at Kit but Kit just continued to bite Dharma's neck and growl. Dharma continued to show every sign of submission and tried to walk away with a collie attached to her neck and biting her every step of the way. Just before we reached them, Dharma decided she had enough and turned and let Kit have it. She growled and grabbed Kit by the face and wouldn't let go. She never punctured her skin or made any mark. It was more of a warning of "bitch, if you don't STOP". We had to pry Dharma off of her so of course Dharma got blamed for being the aggressive, dangerous one. Linda actually had the nerve to report us.
Next thing I know the head of AC is telling us that because my dogs "play too rough" if we are going to be in the park, my dogs have to be leashed. I even tried to explain to him that having leashed dogs in an unleashed park can CAUSE aggression but he didn't agree. We left and haven't been back since. We have since found a much better park to go to.
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Golden retrievers are known for being friendly to all but they sure can stand up for themselves when they need to -- they are not dogs to be "picked on."
This is very true, a friend of mine had a Golden that I was very close to, and she was the epitome of what a good dog should be....except when another dog tried to take the toy she was playing with....then she established that she was not to be messed with and would usually make that dog bleed, even as it was running away....
His dog has since past, and its probably for the best that Abby and her never got to play, because Abby doesn't really understand your toys and hers, she shares hers, and kind of expects the same in return. To the point her and a dog with a similar disposition can even naw on separate ends of the same bone....lol She probably wouldn't take to kindly to the Golden attacking her whatever the reason....lol
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lol i still am trying to pin-point exactly when and how GR's and Labs became the international icons of doclility - both breeds were serious working dogs not for pet owners way back when i was a kid, especially the lab, many were quiet civil aggressive.
Just saw on a dog show (can't remember which one) that said GR's are fast becoming the most biting breed. The lead-in was the biting story, but I admit, my mind went to other breeds (before GR was announced). Figures, only our society can take a beautiful, intelligent, soulful breed - & ruin it.
Yep - sure sounds like "Poop runs downhill" to me!
Redirection is a real issue and some dogs will redirect on humans, if no other dog is around.
|Redirection is a real issue and some dogs will redirect on humans, if no other dog is around.
Not necessarily "establishing" but "reinforcing"?
I injured Pebble's 'pride' and she was going to remind the lowest on the totem pole that he was still the lowest and she was definitely above him.
I have seen her redirect and she redirects on the closest dog - regardless of rank.
I see redirection as being a different type of 'frustration' than what occurred with me disciplining her, or the dogs @ the park disciplining that dog.
Redirection is a 'heat of the moment' and because they can't bite the object of their anger/frustration, they turn to the closest dog there. Often the dog they redirect on is injured or taken so by surprise they back off and if an owner or other human is nearby (or even walking the dog who redirected) they can control the situation.
So interesting.
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my young man-oriented gsd will stop barking at someone if my older female mutt comes over and decides she wants to bark at the same stimulus - i often wondered if it was deferring behaviour to a senior/higher ranked dog???
In addition to my 18 month female GSD, I have a 7 year old Maltese. My GSD will make some noise if she hears something in front of the house. However, if the Maltese starts barking AFTER my GSD, the GSD will stop barking, and allow the maltese to continue.
Also witness a similar food ritual....
I've given my GSD a Milkbone. There are times, where my GSD will bring the bone, and place it right in front of the Maltese. She will then lay down directly in front of the Maltese, and watch as the maltese eats "her offering".
What's up with that? Is she respecting her senior higher ranked canine?
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Fox senior vice president for news* Michael Clemente once explained the purported distinction between Fox programs: "An increasing number of viewers are relying on FOX News for both news and opinion. And the average news consumer can certainly distinguish between the A-section of the newspaper and the editorial page, which is what our programming represents."
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Sammon said in an interview that the term "public option" "is a vague, bland, undescriptive phrase," and that after all, "who would be against a public park?" The phrase "government-run plan," he said, is "a more neutral term," and was used just last week by a New York Times columnist.
Got that? Fox, which has long insisted that while Beck and Hannity are like opinion writers, its objective news broadcasts are like "the A-section of the newspaper," defends the ethics of instructing news staff to use GOP-friendly terminology by pointing out that a columnist recently used the same terminology.
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"Long, but well worth it."
I have to admit to buying this audiobook solely for the reason that I wanted an author I'd never read before, and a story that would last a while. At 32 hours it did that, BUT, I really enjoyed it. It took a few chapters to get into the scenery as there was a plethora of character's names to remember, but Timothy West convinced me that there was treasure to come. He does an awesome job with the accents and different voices for each character. It really seemed like a a full cast performing a perfectly timed dialogue. As for the storyline, I'll leave that to the publisher's description because my review would go way over the 2000 letters allowed. Put it this way, - hearing this book made me look up and watch the entire new BBC film version on youTube at 10 min intervals because the DVD was unavailable in my area. I look forward to more Anthony Trollope, and definately more Timothy West.
"For My Money, Better than Dickens"
I bought this book because I had been listening to Victorian literature, familiarizing myself with some works that I had neglected earlier in my life, and the reviews were so positive I decided to give The Way We Live Now a try. I had not even heard of Anthony Trollope until now. To say that I am pleasantly surprised would be a terrible understatement. Trollope skewers the money and status-obsessed upper class of late 19th century London in a manner that surpasses Dickens or any other author I am familiar with from that time. He relentlessly exposes the neuroticism, betrayal, greed, jealousy and lack of authenticity that characterize humanity in general, but were especially salient in that highly constrained society.
Unlike Dickens, Trollope does not give the reader any syrupy and lovable characters. He exposes everyone as self-obsessed and challenges the reader to love them in spite of their flaws, and God help us, we do. We empathize with Trollope's rogues and victims because we see a bit of ourselves in them and appreciate the fact that that at bottom each of them is vulnerable.
Much has been said of Timothy West's narration. It is, as previously reviewed, pitch perfect in every way. I particularly liked his take on Mrs. Carberry and her insufferable whining. Also, the narrator's voice had just the right blend of intelligence, wit and irony. I can easily see how this work might be tepid in less skilled hands.
Highly recommend. It's more cynical than Dickens, but also more intelligent, and that is what gives it its tremendous satirical bite.
"Timothy West is marvelous"
Anthony Trollope just possibly could not find a better reader for any of his wonderful books. Timothy West makes the stories come to life. He is wonderful.
I've listened to all of Trollope's Chronicles of Barsetshire on audiobook (I recommend the Simon Vance-narrated versions), and I've been longing to read his most famous novel this way, too. However, for the longest time Audible only had a version narrated by the awful Flo Gibson, who sounds like she's 90 years old. So hooray for this new narration by Timothy West of one of Trollope's fabulously entertaining and relevant masterpiece! I was spellbound. Considering that one of the main plot elements is the rise and fall of a Bernard Madoff-style pyramid stock scheme, some of this novel rings painfully true. But there's also love, money, marriage and literary gossip -- something for everyone. Bravo to Audible for finally getting a decent version of this great book.
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"Still the way we live now"
As others have rightly said, Trollope may be better than Dickens. And if not better, then he certainly can give him a run for his money every time!
Both share a genius for choosing the perfect names, and both provide social commentary and satirical wit. Both stage-manage a breathtaking cast of characters, and provide unforgettable stories. But there are differences. For one thing, I find Trollope's female characters, while still Victorian, to be far more fully developed and interesting. At times one begins to feel that the women in Dickens are either angels or demons, with some close to caricatures. Not so with Trollope. And his wit is so dry and crisp that he doesn't lapse into the preaching tone into which Dickens sometimes falls.
One couldn't find a better illustration of Trollope's considerable talents than this book. It begins simply: Auguste Melmotte has lately come to London. If one is well-born, one certainly does not wish to know this man, but one cannot afford to ignore anyone this rich, nor the daughter who is his sole heir. The vultures begin to circle, to highly entertaining effect, and we meet dozens of characters whose lives will be affected by the parvenu.
We may not be corseted, nor driving four-in-hand in the park these days, but this is still the way we live 138 years later. Money "expects money," and those who do not have money scheme to get it, some legally, some not. And as ever, greed and social climbing are the very soul of modern satire.
For those who watched the wonderful BBC miniseries with David Suchet you may find the book to be even better. It ends in a far more interesting way, I think, with all the loose ends tied up, and the characters are fully developed over the long course of the reading. Timothy West is incredible at bringing the characters to life.
"The Best"
It is said that this is the best of the author's books and I very much agree. It is also one of the best audiobook performances I have heard and even though Trollope's longest book,100 chapters,
it kept me into it all the way. After I started listening I remembered watching the film on PBS and imediately went to BBC and bought it.
"30 hours of enjoyment"
I was a little hesistant about getting this book as it is so long! I wasn't sure that I had the patience to sit through it all, but I can now say, I've enjoyed every minute of it. Apart from the wonderful writing of Trollope, I must say that Timothy West did a marvellous job reading the tome. It wasn't reading, in fact. It was acting. I feel like I was listening to a very well-performed audio play.
A fantastic read. Timothy West does a masterful job of interpreting the many characters. Anthony Trollope never gets old. Amazingly relevant plot.
"Excellent book, excellent reader."
What a great book this has been. The story is consistently interesting, with interesting characters who are well fleshed-out. Very Tolstoy-esque. The reader is also, fortunately, excellent. A very long book which I wish could have been longer!
"Trolllope's best"
I've listened to six of Trollope's novels. I love them ll but I'd rate this the finest. It explore's with merciless humour the struggle between the bankrupt gentry who need to marry new money they despise, and the nouveau riche who want to buy themselves higher rank. At the centre of it is a great crook running a Ponzi scheme. The novel remains totally relevant to our times. The reading is excellent.
"Fantastic! Fantastic!"
Timothy West and Trollope is the best combination I know of, I was dismissive of audiobooks until the delight of hearing unabridged Trollope read by this most intelligent of interpreters came my way - all of his readings of Trollope are utterly exquisite and the clever perceptions of the author are conveyed to the listener with exactly the right nuances. Please Mr West, if you ever read this review, have my thanks and pleas to continue your sensitive portrayals of the entire Trollope novels. You are a national treasure - just as these undervalued books are.
"Timothy West Is Just Fantastic"
I would never have read a hard copy of this book. I chose it because of the reviews on Audible. They were not wrong. Great story of genteel 'ruthless people' brought alive by brilliant narration. Funny and touching. The best I have downloaded so far.
"A dark but absorbing novel"
Although I have read a good deal of Trollope's work this novel was unfamiliar to me, but has proved to be a compelling and thoroughly enjoyable read.The author unsparingly depicts a dark social scene with many deeply flawed characters caught up in their various pursuits of wealth.The reader becomes anxious to discover how the inevitable downfall of Melmotte and his cronys will come. The characterisation here is wonderful and I have particularly enjoyed Trollope's portrayal of the female characters Mrs Hurtle and Marie Melmotte as well as the heroine Hetta Carbury.Once again Timothy West gives a superlative reading. I cannot recommend this too highly.
"A book for the 21st Century"
I am very fond of Trollope's works but hadn't read "The Way We Live Now" before purchasing this audiobook. It has been so difficult to switch it off and I have been held captive throughout. I know the book has its detractors but I found it full of wisdom and compassion. It is not just of historical interest but says a lot about how we live now in the 21st century. The mistakes in the original text have been retained but it's quite fun to spot them as the reading goes on. Timothy West is masterful as always and does full justice to a wonderful novel.
"Nothing changes!"
This book was recommended to me as an interesting reflection of the current financial situation, despite being set in 1873. And it certainly is, showing the power that society gives to those who are thought to be wealthy, without troubling to look too deeply behind the scenes. Beautifully read by Timothy West, the story is easy to follow despite the length of the book and of the cast list! Recommended if you enjoy Victorian literature and even more so if you have a rather dry sense of humour.
"My First Trollope Novel but Not My Last"
This was quite simply brilliant in every possible way and a fantastic introduction to Trollope's writings for a 'first-timer' like me. Timothy West does the most superlative job as the narrator and I can't imagine anyone else who could do such justice to this wonderfully rich and colourful novel. I now have my eye firmly set on more of Anthony Trollope's novels and fortunately there are loads of them, but I can't imagine any of them being more engaging or thoroughly entertaining than this.
"it was great"
I really enjoyed this book. Because of its lenght, I did fear that it would be just a very long drawn out, and perhaps rather dull 19th century novel, but not at all. Its still fresh. So well paced that each hour is enjoyable with no need to rush onward. Beautiful writing.
Timothy West reads this extremely well, as I would have expected. The various voices are well-characterised and clear.
It's a very long novel but Trollope's writing is so entertaining that it doesn't drag. It could have done because he was, to my mind, spinning it out just a bit but my interest never flagged. Trollope does tend to deal in this book with one story line for long stretches and then retrace his steps to go back to what was happening a few weeks before to other characters so he has to do a bit of a recap every now and then.
It's very witty in places and West brings out Trollope's wry humour at the expense of some of his characters well. Very few escape his wit.
There are some splendidly vile characters here notably Melmotte (who only just stays the right side of pantomime villain) and Sir Felix Carbury who is a hopeless case. There only seem to be three really good people amongst the main characters, Hetta Carbury, Roger Carbury and Marie Melmotte and I must admit Marie is for me the real heroine of the piece. I was cheering for her from quite early on. I also have a soft spot for Mrs Hurtle who is a rather modern American lady with a surprising moral code.
It's a good listen.
"Better than TV"
Trollope has not been translated to my native tongua (Finnish) so I got to know this great novel through the BBC TV adaptation with David Suchet as the star. The adaptation took rather many liberties in polarising the issues and drama. The novel is superior to the screenplay, more nuances and verisimilitude.
Timothy West is even to me well-known actor with genuine wit. He omits the often annoying strong impersonations ie he does not try to speak high for females or anything like that. Still, he paces the characters very well and lives out their psychology engagingly. He has a most plesant voice and diction.
Indeed, yes it is the way we live now, the way we lived when Trollope wrote it and the way we lived before that point. A wonderfully absorbing novel populated by vivid characterisation brought to life by West's masterful reading. Even when he takes the role of young women the listener is convinced he hears the girl and not West. Utterly splendid.
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What is the general consensus on these suits? Accuracy, quality?
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I inspected my hive this morning for my new queen, 7 days after putting her in (candy plug box) and I could not find her!She was not marked though.
Three attendants were dead in the box but the others and queen were not in.
I have not found the queen laying dead in the bottom of the box or on the ground. Tell me what you all think. Did I just miss her?
1: I got the bees out of an old house, they had a queen but no drones and not many brood.2: I did not wait the 24 hours after removing (I killed her) the old queen. I took out the old one and put in the new boxed one between frames. Sprayed a little sugar water around them too.3: I kept enough old comb to fill 9 super frames and these are what I have in the deep.
I'm worried they killed my queen. Should I be?
I did not read anything about the good side to feral queens until after the fateful day!
I have plans to get another colony from a house next week and this time the queen will live. Plan on using the "funnel" method? Because the owner does not want us to cut into the house. Thanks for all replies. A great forum. I needed it about two weeks earlier to get the right info.


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cool, but can you one hand it to shoot it?
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cool, but can you one hand it to shoot it?
I think so , I can hold it straight up with one hand. I have held and fired my barret with one hand on a bet before over the gulf so as not to drop a bullet on anybody, but yes as long as firing angle is not specified I can hold and fire it with one hand
I've seen video of someone firing a shorty M1919 from the hip. He was supporting it with a strap, feeding the belt with one hand and firing it with the other.
IIRC, the feds classify a semi-auto M1919 as a crew served weapon. This means the federal laws pretaining to rifles and pistols don't apply to a M1919. A shorty M1919 with the A6 carrying handle isn't an AOW, a shorty M1919 with the A6 shoulder stock isn't a SBR. That doesn't mean you can't run afowl of state regs, but the ATF isn't going to bust down your door for building a shorty 1919.
Here's a pic of a similar mockup done by the creator of the Crankfire setup:
Don't do it! Stop the madness!
Seriously, I've never been a fan of "how small can you make it" builds. I'm a stickler for "authentic as possible" military clones.
For me, the magic is making something "interesting". Like a quick-change barrel trunion. Or a belt-fed AK conversion. Or a SCAR-type caliber-convertible rifle (currently on my list). But a 1919 with .05" of barrel just isn't something that blows up my skirt.
Anyone can cut a barrel down.
I too have seen that shorty 1919 and just have to ask myself "why"? Is it cool? Novel, perhaps, and something that may get a bunch of guffaws at a gun show. Good to attract attention to the booth. But not something I'd want in my gun safe 10 years from now...
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I don't disagree there Pookie, like an AK pistol the best thing I can see about a short barreled 1919 is the fireball it'd give off when you shot it.
My personal favorite "oddball" 1919 is an A6 type, it had the normal length barrel and bipod, and it's builder used the buttstock and pistol grip assembly from a M240.
I have to say I am surprised somebody that would build a pink AK would say thay hcpookie! LOL.
I guess after 25+ years of collecting this stuff I am just always looking for something new and unusual. If this one looks like a waste of a good parts set I probably shouldnt post pics of my 16" bbl vickers shorty.
Please post pics of your vickers I'd like to see them. the 1919 is cool, but how about making the booster into a bearing and have the barrel sticking out like a 50cal. What kind of finish are you doing on the 1919?
thats the plan on the 1919, bearing at the end and bbl sticking out and contoured to look like a 50 cal, just screwed the booster in place to see what a pistol like 1919 would look like. Plan is to bead blast then parkerize.
I will post pics of the vic shortlt its in a state of disassembly now
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I have seen a number of the short shroud/ barrel hanging out 1919 shorties and IME a lot of them dont function reliably, at least in .308. 8mm seems to have enough ommph to work without a booster, though.
Im in the process of building one with an MG34 barrel with the rear bushed for the 1919 and the front bushing slid back to 6" from the breech. I'm using a cut off A6 booster with the orifice drilled out so the barrel sticks out through it. I plan to drill a port or ports so that the gas will impinge on the inside surface of the booster.
I love my short 1919s for a number of reasons, they are a lot lighter, more handy and I get off on the 4' fireball. Mine are just as accurate as the full length if not more so.
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'"Doug has enjoyed a solid career at the University of Maine," Sabres General Manager Darcy Regier said. "We are excited about his signing and look forward to him continuing to develop and contributing to our organization."'
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Discussion in 'Off The Beaten Track' started by Really, Jan 15, 2014.
Interesting stuff here...
Super cool! I'm a sucker for maps. The modern day pangea is fascinating....New York City bordering Morocco Sounds like a fun weekend spot.
#36 is
Thank you! The Global Internet Usage based on time of day map is pretty interesting. I just saved that page to my favorites.
That was really fun. Thanks for sharing.
Another map lover here. I love that I got paid to produce hand drawn maps at one point in my career. I can still navigate the back roads of Muskoka because of it. Surprised at our coffee consumption, and apparently we bribe more.
When I clicked on the link, I expected to see something else, something I remembered seeing last year.
So....here are 40 Maps That Explain the World and 40 More Maps That Explain the World for all you map lovers. There are a couple of maps that are repeated from the link in the OP, but most of them are different--and some of them are really interesting.
Yum and Yum!! These are really fascinating. Look at the US the only country but one in the world that is not on Metric. WTF is wrong with us? Except please don't put us on Metric, I don't want to deal with it.
Football coaches = high income nebraska really only has one major university so, uh yeah.
#19 for Rubber Duckies landfall was fun.
What? No MacDonalds in Mongolia. I'm shocked.
40 More Maps That Explain the World ... with links to several more.
Gosh, I wish I had posted that.
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The failed policies that got us into this mess: by the numbers
posted at 2:17 pm on August 5, 2012 by Howard Portnoy
On the campaign trail, President Obama continues to frame the election as a choice between competing visions. Every time there is a glimmer of good news on the economic front, he recycles a paragraph written for him in 2009 and that he has repeated countless times since. "The recovery is accelerating," he tells audiences at rallies and fundraisers. "America is coming back—which means the last thing we can do is go back to the same failed policies that got us into this mess in the first place. And that's what's at stake in this election."
It's a convenient dodge against having to address his own record, which he'd be hard-pressed to run on. This is why he cites the cumulative number of jobs added instead of the unemployment rate, which has been above 8% for 42 consecutive months. By avoiding this troubling metric, he is able to divert attention from his boast in early 2009 that unemployment would fall to 5.6% as a result of passing his $862 billion stimulus package.
Technically, the term unemployment rate (singular) in the previous paragraph is inaccurate. In point of fact, the Bureau of Labor Statistics recognizes and computes six separate unemployment rates each month. Each of the rates, known as U-1 through U-6, uses an increasingly detailed data set. The rate we are most accustomed to seeing is U-3, widely considered to be the "official" unemployment rate. It is the proportion of the civilian labor force that is unemployed but actively seeking employment.
The other rates are as follows:
- U-1 : Percentage of labor force unemployed 15 weeks or longer.
- U-2 : Percentage of labor force who lost jobs or completed temporary work.
- U-4 : U-3 plus "discouraged workers," people who have stopped looking for work because current economic conditions make them believe that no work is available for them.
- U-5 : U-4 plus other "loosely attached workers," those who would like to work and are ablebodied but have not looked for work recently.
- U-6 : U-5 plus part time workers who want to work full time but cannot due to economic reasons.
The U-6 is perhaps the most comprehensive measure of labor resource unemployment and hence the strongest indicator of economic vitality. It is the one Obama would never dare mention because the numbers suggest that he's done a worse job handling the mess he inherited than his much-maligned predecessor.
An examination of the line graph and chart indicate that the real unemployment rate, which is currently at 15%, began its climb into the danger zone (shown in red) in the closing months of the Bush 43 administration. The change reflects one of two messes that Bush inherited from his immediate predecessor, Bill Clinton. Clinton bequeathed to Bush the dot.com bubble, which burst on March 10, 2000, and the housing bubble, which Clinton himself inherited—from Jimmy Carter—but exacerbated. During his presidency, Clinton pressured lenders to make risky loans that would "make homeownership more affordable for lower-income Americans and those with a poor credit history."
Although Bush 43 was not without fault (he compounded Clinton's irresponsible financial policies with his own profligate spending and expanded government with the creation of the Department of Homeland Security), he did attempt to shrink the housing bubble. In 2003, his administration proposed a new agency to oversee the government-sponsored entities Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, which had mismanaged their $1.5 trillion in debt holdings against interest rate increases. In response to this proposal, Democratic Rep. Congressman Barney Frank assured Americans and fellow House members:
These two entities—Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac—are not facing any kind of financial crisis…. The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.
The fact that it was later revealed that Frank personally benefited financially from both agencies is irrelevant. The situation reached a head during the final days of Bush presidency. On December 30, 2008 the housing bubble burst.
Enter Obama, who did inherit a mess as he has reminded the American tediously often. U-6 was at 15.1% at the end of Obama's first full month in office. In May, the real rate entered the stratosphere (shown in purple) and remained there for the next 20 months. It is hard to say how much blame for the high unemployment rate rests with Bush's and how much with Obama, but it remains a fact that Obama has been ineffectual at bringing it back down into the merely high orange range. In fact, from June through October of 2011, U-6 was back up in the purple, reaching a high of 16.4% in September. It is notable that during this period, he gave his "You should pass this jobs plan right away" speech in which he asked Congress to pass a second $447-billion stimulus package.
Which is what he hopes to do again if given a second term—that and raising taxes on job creators. His first stimulus did nothing to revive the economy or put Americans back to work, and raising taxes during an economic downturn is sheer folly by his own lights. Yet, that remains his prescription for the future. What he is essentially asking voters to do is give him a blank check to reprise his own failed policies, which have made any mess he inherited—and our lives—immeasurably worse.
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So for hunting mallards in dry fields, everyone always says to have plenty of mojos out. I'm thinking of a cheap and easy way to make something like a Mojo Wing Thang, with just one wing spinning.
http://www.amazon.com/Amico-300RPM-Torq ... m_sbs_hi_2
Do you guys think this little motor or something along this line will work? The only concern would be finding a small motor with a big enough drive shaft. Any input is appreciated! Thanks
I posted this in DIY but thought that you guys here would have good ideas too.


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Hi Heather
Thanks for joining the West Mids group. I need to post some updates, there's so much going on and not enough time to celebrate across all these great networks. Thanks for sharing your photos, a great way to get a flavour of what's going on in Coventry :)
Hi Heather, It's a small world! I'm retiring from teh police soon and working as teh Cornwall Community Timebank co-ordinator. Happy days! Dave Aynsley


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Got these to protect the seats from hunting and the kiddies in the backseat. Was going to go with black or charcoal but figured a monotone with no pattern would show dirt pretty easily (though it would obviously protect the seats).
They were easy to install but just took some time - a good Friday project with a few beers.
Got these from Sportsman Camo Covers and they were $415 shipped, which includes arm rests, console cover, and headrests. Lots of others have those as extra add-ons that can run upwards of another $100. They are custom fit for each truck and each gen. Very good quality and turnaround time was ~ 2 weeks. Very nice folks and I have heard nothing but good things about their customer service. They are a small shop (it seems) and really want to offer a quality product. If you need good seat covers give them a shout.


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Tracking colour
Greek and Roman marble statues were not set up in blazing white. They were colourful. We are now on the track of the colours that remain on sculptures in our collection.
The research project now under way in the Glyptotek is the first of its kind. The aim is to identify, document and study traces of colour on our Greek and Roman sculptures.
Ancient sculpture was colourful
Ancient written sources, as well as the evidence found on the works themselves, show that Greek and Roman sculptures were colourful. They were 'polychrome', 'many-coloured'.
Works in stone were painted and sculptures in bronze stood in the colour of the metal, with details such as eyes, lips and teeth added in other coloured materials: ivory, copper, amber and silver among them. Statues were also made in silver, gold and ivory. And in Roman Imperial times, sculptors began using coloured marbles. During recent years, research on the polychromy of ancient sculpture has increased. But our knowledge is still very limited.
The Glyptotek project and the Copenhagen Polychromy Network
'Ancient sculptural polychromy in the Ny Carlsberg Glyptotek' is a project designed to systematically investigate our Greek and Roman stone sculptures for traces of colour. It is the first of its kind anywhere.
In-depth examination and understanding of colour traces require an interdisciplinary approach. Collaboration has therefore been established between the Glyptotek, the School of Conservation of the Academy of Fine Arts, the Institute of Chemistry at the Technical University of Denmark and the Museum of Geology/The Natural History Museum of Denmark. We call this partnership 'The Copenhagen Polychromy Network'.
How are the colours preserved?
It is astounding that any traces of colour are to be found on sculptures that are a couple of thousand years old.
Direct preservation
The preservation of traces of the original painting on an ancient stone sculpture may be either direct or indirect. In some cases remains of the colours themselves are directly preserved. Such colour traces are visible to the naked eye, or they are revealed under microscopy.
Indirect preservation
'Colour shadows' Where pigments were worn away quickly, the stone surface was exposed to weathering for a longer time. They therefore appear darker than surfaces covered by more durable pigments. The latter surfaces appear lighter. This difference in the colour of the stone surface is called 'colour shadows'. They reveal where paint was once applied, even though the pigments have disappeared.
Weathering reliefs
Difference in pigment durability may result in the less well-protected surfaces being worn down to a lower level than those protected for a longer time by durable pigments. This leads to a 'weathering relief', visible under raking light. This tells us where paint was once applied.
In Archaic and early Classical Greek sculpture (c. 600-460 BC), the contours of motifs were often incised to guide the painter. They become visible under raking light.
Ultraviolet and infrared fluorescent photography
Organic materials were used as binding media in pigments and as colouring agents. Infrared and ultraviolet light can activate remains of organic material on the stone. They fluoresce and thus reveal where paint was originally found.
How do we find the colours?
A whole range of methods are employed to track down the colours, from careful observation with the naked eye to the use of electron microscopy. Conservation science and natural science play a decisive role.
Visual examination
The sculpture is examined with the naked eye, binocular magnifier and binocular microscope. It is also photographed in controlled normal light, as well as in infrared and ultraviolet light to reveal remains of organic substances which may originate from ancient pigments..
When traces of pigment are located, they are studied using a Leica DM651 operation microscope with up to 100x magnification. Digital photography is used to document this process.
Depending on the amount of pigment preserved, samples may be taken. The sample size is minute, about 0.3 cubic millimetres. Cross-sections of the samples provide information on the paint layer structure and the pigments employed. Study of the cross-sections is conducted by the museum using a dark field microscope.
Conservation and natural scientific analysis
In-depth examination of especially promising samples is carried out by our external network partners in conservation science and natural science. They have at their disposal a range of sophisticated technologies. These include scanning electron microscopy with X-ray, Fourier transform infra-red spectroscopy, Raman laser spectroscopy and inductive plasma mass spectroscopy.
What were the colours made of?
We are used to buying paint ready for use. Not so the Greeks and Romans. Pigments had to be produced from the ground up, using natural colouring agents. Most were inorganic, some organic.
We know about ancient pigments from the written sources, in particular the 'Natural History' by Plinius the Elder, a Roman author of the 1st century AD. To this we may add the results achieved by polychromy research in recent times.
The pigments were mainly inorganic, made from minerals or natural earth colours. We also know of organic pigments extracted from plants and two kinds of synthetic pigments are also found.
Of the pigments known, some of the most important are:
- Cinnabar, mercuric sulphide, was a popular, expensive red mineral pigment.
- Ochre, an earth colour containing iron oxide, is found in hues from orange to reddish brown.
- Red lead, lead tetroxide, is also known as 'minium' and is of course red.
- Madder lake, or alizarin, is a pinkish red organic pigment from the root of the madder plant.
- Orpiment and realgar are both arsenic sulphide minerals used to produce yellow pigments.
- Azurite is a copper mineral and the source of a deep blue. It can turn into a greenish hue through weathering to malachite.
- Egyptian blue is the oldest known synthetic pigment, made from calcium, silicium and copper.
- Malachite, a green copper carbonate mineral closely related to azurite – and just as expensive.
- Bone black and vine black are organic pigments resulting from carbonization.
- Lead white, a lead carbonate, is a synthetically produced white pigment.
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Planning Projects
Project-Based Units Require Extra Planning and Preparation
To teach something well and ensure that students are engaged in learning, teachers need to plan and prepare effectively. If the goal is for students to achieve at high levels, then proper planning and preparation are expected no matter what type of teaching is going on. Project-based learning is no exception.
In order to be successful, projects need to be designed with the end in mind. Without closely focused learning goals, the purpose of the project can become unclear and expectations for student learning outcomes can be miscommunicated. When designing projects, it is important to ensure that the activities planned will help your students meet the intended learning objectives. By reviewing curriculum goals, objectives, and standards/syllabus outcomes, teachers make choices for establishing curricular priorities. At a very basic level, project planning involves the following steps:
- Determine specific learning goals by using standards and the desired higher-order thinking skills
- Develop Curriculum-Framing Questions
- Make an assessment plan
- Design activities
This simple four-step process is deceiving. Project planning is not linear; it always involves circling back to previous steps to ensure alignment. The use of Curriculum-Framing Questions and a project approach should all work together to support the learning goals and targeted standards of the unit. Throughout the unit, there should be multiple opportunities for assessment and monitoring to measure your students' progress.
Misconceptions of Project Approaches
When people hear the phrase, "project-based learning", different concepts and definitions may come to mind. These may include some of the common misconceptions below.
Project-based units are long and hard to keep focused.
Projects involve all kinds of "hands-on" or "minds-on" tasks of varying complexity and length. Tasks can be as detailed and involved as a service-learning project on pollution or as simple as an in-class debate. A project will be focused as long as it is well-planned, aligned to important standards and learning targets, and clearly states student expectations.
Project-based learning means a complete change in instructional practices.
Project-based learning is an instructional method in a repertoire of methods. It is not appropriate for the teaching of all skills and knowledge. It incorporates and accounts for varied teaching strategies and learning styles and is a way to build on current instruction to enrich learning experiences and make more efficient use of time. The focus of an educator has not changed. The goal remains to teach students what they need to know and need to be able to do. Project-based learning simply provides a new approach to reaching this goal.
Project-based learning means a lot of work.
For some teachers the shift to project-based learning may not encompass many challenges, but for others the idea may be overwhelming. If you are new to projects, it is best to start small and build upon what works well. Starting small means incorporating one or two instructional methods at a time, while building up to the complete design and implementation of a project-based unit. Starting small can mean incorporating:
- Community experts
- A project scenario
- A student generated rubric
- Cooperative grouping strategies
Little by little the benefits of project-based learning will be uncovered and the shift to projects will develop over time and lead to bigger ideas and better designs.
Project Planning Guides
Use these project planning resources to develop a project.
Assessment Planning Resources
The Assessing Projects resource provides detailed information about the benefits of student-centered assessment as well as how to use these and other assessment strategies in your classroom. See examples of teacher-created assessment plans that embed assessments throughout several different projects.
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Hey guys, I picked up a Contour Roam camera, on sale from Daniel Defense, a good discount, since it includes the rail mounting accessory. I gave it a work out, with mixed results, on a shotgun, pistol and on a M4 with rail system. Here are the results:
Gun Camera Review
Question for ya'll:
Do you, or have you, used a gun camera? If so, which one, and how have you found it useful to you? Etc. Care to share any videos?


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Look for the extensions to keep coming
In the past five days, teams have made nearly $600 million worth of commitments in contract extensions, including shortstop Elvis Andrus' pending deal with the Rangers.
Don't expect the trend to end.
The Dodgers remain in discussions with left-hander Clayton Kershaw, according to major-league sources. The Indians continue to talk to second baseman Jason Kipnis and outfielder Michael Brantley, though a Kipnis deal is considered unlikely, sources say.
The flurry of recent extensions is partly attributable to the calendar - players and teams often use Opening Day as a deadline for contract negotiations. But a number of clubs are seeking to lock up additional players, reflecting the game's rising revenues, sources say.
Starting in 2014, the amount of money that teams receive from baseball's national television contracts will increase from about $25 million per season to about $52 million. Some teams also are drawing significantly increased revenue from their local television deals.
The large number of extensions reduces the quality of upcoming free-agent classes, and increases the demand for top players who do hit the open market.
One situation that bears watching: The Yankees' negotiations with second baseman Robinson Cano, who is eligible for free agency at the end of the season.
Cano is represented by Scott Boras, who generally prefers his clients to establish their values not through extensions, but on the open market. Andrus, however, is also represented by Boras, and just two years away from free agency.
The Yankees, like Boras, rarely negotiate extensions before players complete contracts. It also seems doubtful that Cano would agree to a new deal when he could engage the Yankees, Dodgers and other clubs in a bidding war in just seven months.
Then again, the Yankees face the losses of a number of a number of potential free agents at the end of the season. Cano, 30, is the team's biggest offensive star, and one of the Yanks' few top performers in his prime.
Let's just say the current environment is ripe for extensions, as evidenced by the agreements that have been reached just since Thursday:
Justin Verlander, Tigers, $180 million.
Buster Posey, Giants, $167 million.
Andrus, $120 million.
Adam Wainwright, Cardinals, $97.5 million.
Paul Goldschmidt, Diamondbacks, $32.5 million.
Oh, and don't forget another deal from early February: Felix Hernandez's $175 million agreement with the Mariners.
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Dog adoption saves lives. Adopt a dog and you'll have a friend for life! Contact us, or contact another local humane society, animal shelter or SPCA.
The procedure for adoption is
1) request an application and return it to us via email
2) once we receive the application we will begin discussions to answer any questions either of us have and then decide whether to proceed.
3) We will call your Vet for a reference or request another reference. We also may do a home check.
4) Upon approval of all that, we will finalize the adoption and the pet will be scheduled on the next available transport
5) The adoption fee covers spaying/neutering, age appropriate vaccinations, rabies, complete vet check (including fecal, heartworm and preventative de-worming and de-fleaing), health certificate and transport to you
After the adoption we are always available to assist and advise our adoptive families in every way we can. If for any reason an adoption does not work out we will gladly take the animal back.
Why should you adopt?
Dog adoption and cat adoption saves lives. Adopt a dog or adopt a cat and you'll have a friend for life! What is the difference between adopting a dog or puppy versus getting dogs for sale or puppies for sale from a dog breeder? When someone is breeding puppies, they are creating new dogs who need homes. Some people are interested in a very specific breed of dog or puppy and they think the only way to find that specific breed is to buy a dog for sale from a puppy breeder. Yet animal shelters are filled with dogs who must find homes. So rather than buying a dog or puppy for sale from a dog breeder, we encourage people to adopt a dog or adopt a puppy at their local animal shelter, SPCA, humane society or pet rescue group.


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This particular issue I started to do more cutnpaste layouts and hand writing some pieces. It was a release because I clearly remember it was the only time I was single in high school and everything was fun. It was made with good friends in mind with poetry, prose and doodles.
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The art of garbage goal collection. That is a true art indeed. Buffalo Sabres coach Lindy Ruff has been trying for years to teach his players the fine craft of scoring garbage goals. One of the most important facets of collecting such goals is just shooting on net every chance one gets. It may have taken years, but the Sabres players are finally listening to Ruff.
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Well, My two buddies and I did receive the nonresident 10 day license and are going to be out in the area north and west of Webster the first week of the season. All the folks on this website have been really nice and supportive sending me helpful tips and even put us on a nice spot to stay.
If there is anyone who is going to be hunting that spot early season and would be feel gracious enough to go out with us one day, kind of give us the lay of the land and share a hunt with us it would really mean the world to us. In exchange we would love to take you out for a nice steak meal, or even share our Illinois public land spots for whitetails.
If any of you feel like you would be able to put us on some birds either geese or ducks, fields or ponds, and think we could work out a trade, please shoot me a message.
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DERRY (AP) — State police are searching for an assault suspect who climbed a fence to escape from a western Pennsylvania mental hospital.
Troopers from the Greensburg barracks say Steven Michael Barron, 21, ran into the woods next to Torrance State Hospital in Derry Township after escaping shortly after 6 p.m. Tuesday.
Police say Barron had been court-committed to the facility and is known to be volatile and proficient with knives.
Police didn't say why Barron was committed to the facility, but say he also faces an arrest warrant for unrelated charges of simple assault and harassment filed in Erie County.
Barron is from Crabtree, a small village about 15 miles west of the mental hospital. Police have been unable to find him despite using bloodhounds and other K-9 officers.


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Andy- Thanks for your help along the way and for posting the video! Nice seeing your E32 in action... Between our boats and our names we'll have to make sure folks don't get us mixed up...
Cheers & Thanks again to all for the encouragement and advice!
Did I already say can't wait til spring?
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Congratulations, Andy - I hope everything works out well with the repairs. I think you're getting a GREAT boat! I am a bit biased, though.....Here's a short video from this morning sailing my E32 on the Banana River.....
Looking forward to reading your stories of the repairsand the sailing when spring comes.
I also agree with the others that a yard that charges for an estimate without making it clear up fron there would be a charge is probably a yard to steer clear of in the future.
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I would agree that wherever I've been surprised once, the experience continues.
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Andy, it sounds like you guys have got a working relationship. As long as the seller is going to do proper repairs (not kludges) on the big things, like the deck compression, then you should be OK.
The surprise bill from the marina means they are sharks. Any reputable business will make it very clear up front when they are going to charge you an estimate fee, and in many states the law REQUIRES contractors, mechanics, tv repair shops, etc. all to post it in writing and get your written consent before they can charge you for that. o protect the public from sharks. Three hours...well, call it an expensive reality check vs. the survey and a shark alert.
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Awahl : You may be new to this but your approach and realsitic expectations on an older vessel are a bonus compared to most buyers new or not. Congratulations. I'd bet you are going to make out just fine.
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Congrats on the new boat.
As you mention you're new to this, I should add that there can be many ways to affect a boat repair. For example, some will try to repair a delam by cutting or drilling small holes and trying to inject with epoxy. The proper way is to cut the section out and re-lay the core, glass and gelcoat. The difference in cost is about 100 fold.
While I understand the marinas point about the time it takes them to do an estimate, I would never pay for one unless they disclosed it first. If they want the work they estimated, you should ask them to remove that. Indeed, they may have been protecting themselves that you would just go elsewhere to get it done and would be happy to remove it.
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After receiving estimates, factoring in the various comments advice and suggestions received here and from others, and further negotiation with the seller- we've decided to proceed with our purchase of the E32.
How did we get here?
I provided a copy of the survey to the Marina along with some of the items that I thought may warrant a 2nd look, including the mast compression, deck delamination, and hull/cosmetic issues. I also asked them to provide costs for re-wiring the mast and some other fixes that are secondary to the purchase transaction (things I would like to upgrade myself).
I must say that being new to boating my experience with the marina was good- knowledgeable and helpful. However, I do not recall them informing me there would be a cost to provide the estimate- nor did they mention it when they emailed the estimate. When I received it via snail-mail it included a bill for over $200 (3 hours time on the boat). Frankly, based on the language in the estimate (short/sweet), and the fact that the survey probably provided a lot of the background needed to provide the estimate... I doubt it took 3 hours- or maybe it did- I don't know... Anyway- chalk this up to my own failure to ask/confirm if the estimate would cost anything- and first hand experience that while marinas serve a valuable purpose- they are indeed out to make money and lots of it as soon as possible... (aren't we all...).
I say this with a : Boat repair estimates are not like buying carpet, they take time, people need to crawl up ladders, they need to open ports, lockers, and hatches, they need to sniff, touch, rub, tap, they need to es-ti-mate... and if it's raining- add an hour... Buyer beware....
Regarding the estimate itself- the costs for the things that I specifically attached to the purchase (deck de-lam, and a couple other things) totaled >$5000 however some of the items were not significant to the survey results (they were cosmetic issues). After speaking with several people about the compression around the mast area I do not think it's a structural concern. I am factoring in potential removal of the mast for re-wiring, and replacing the mast compression plate in my decision here (future upgrade/fixes).
The seller has agreed to fix the deck de-lam, and some other fixes/things that I did not note in my original post. Some of these items were noted in the survey as minor- some were included in the estimates. I let the seller know my concern regarding him doing repairs versus the marina. He gave me more info on his background (specifically sailboat) in repair and I am putting my faith in him to do it right. This is a risk I am willing to manage, and we are witholding X dollars pending adequate completion of the fixes.
So key factors in our decision were:
Structural or Cosmetic? - Most of our concerns were more cosmetic in nature. Granted the deck delamination/mast may be structural but not major or near any kind of failure point. We are buying a 30 year old boat- We know there are issues going in, and may need to invest in some upgrades ourselves. Our cost entry point is comfortable for us and we feel like we're getting a boat we like at the appropriate price for it's condition/age. An early 80's Catalina or Hunter would bring with it their own types of issues. Endeavours are noted to have some gel-coat issues; which this boat has, and which we can live with- like wrinkles they add character.
Agreed fixes - We have a significant list of agreed fixes to be done by the PO. He has a racing team background and I am placing my trust in him- not always an easy call to make but I'm okay with making this one. The list incliudes the deck, rudder, port-lights, hatches, and a couple of other things (including wash/wax/bottom paint), and we have a deposit that should be enough of an incentive to do right, and/or subsidize further repair if needed.
Included equipment - Sails are newer and include 2007 or newer Genoa, Asym w/sock, new main in 2008, newer running rigging, 2 lewmar ST40's, 3 blade feathering prop, nice cradle with box... The electronics package is also pretty solid with ST60, autohelm and SL70 GPS/Radar (no radar dome).
Long story short - We like the boat, we know it has wrinkles. We've vetted the survey against folks more knowledgable than us, got some estimates for repairs, re-negotiated with the seller to incporporate some repairs- and are moving forward with the purchase... We haven't closed yet- hopefully there won't be any surprises on that end...
In the meantime I'll be getting comfortable with Nigel Calder, beefing up my book-smarts, learning some new knots, shopping for slips, and saving my pennies for that hole in the water I'm gleefully diving in...
Can't wait til spring!
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Hi Andy...
Last week was awful weather and the Marina did not want to get up and crawl around the boat. Been in touch with the seller and we have things on hold pending more info from the marina... I am still hopeful on this boat- just waiting for the estimates. Weather is colder but looks clear this week...
Thanks for your interest & I will be sure to post the results once we're through this...
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Andy - any update on how things are going?
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Andy, I'm a curmudgeon, cynic, and pessimist and the nicest thing about being a pessimist is that it is always a PLEASANT surprise to be wrong.
I'd run away from the boat.
Compression under the mast is not fixed by adding a plate. It is fixed, like the delamination in the side decks, by openingup the deck, removing all the bad coring, and replacing it. That can be a major, exensive, and expensive repair. If you have no experience at this and don't want to gamble on removing the skin from the deck and rebuilding it--ask a local fibgerglass shop for estimates. Show them the survey and some pix of the boat. I suspect their estimate will shock your pants off.
If that doesn't send you running...
The good news is that liferaft, etc. business just means the surveyor is using boilerplate to pad out the size of his report. Your choices of safety gear have nothing to do with the condition of the boat.
The wiring, well old wiring needs work and the price can add up even if you do all the labor, but that's part of an old boat.
The gooseneck, on the other hand, if that's worn you probably can't just buy replacement parts, you are looking at machine shop work. Some pictures and clarification would help.
And there's one other thing, deck delamination and compression under the mast usually mean the PO has not been taking care of maintenance, which means there will be more surprises in other places.
Me, I'd run away. But see where the estimates are, are look around online at how much fun (not) deck recoring projects can be. Done professionally, they can literally double the price of a boat. DIY, they can eat a whole lot of weekends and don't even ask about the epoxy in your hair.
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