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The day after Islamic extremists attacked the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, the nation's top counterterrorists hosted something of a brainstorming session on how to keep violent extremism down in the long term. While the consulate burned, 100 or so intelligence analysts, military officers, prosecutors, academics and civil rights experts gathered in the McLean auditorium of the MITRE Corporation, a federally funded research center, for a conference on "Countering Violent Extremism / Community Engagement." Some of the invited speakers, like Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, couldn't make it because of the crisis. Still, the attendees included high-ranking officials from the White House, the State Department, and the National Counterterrorism Center, which serves as the government's lead analytical agency in the fight against terrorists and played host for the two-day think session. Afterward, according to a draft agenda obtained by Danger Room, attendees were invited to a nearby mall for a happy hour at Coastal Flats, a restaurant known for its crab cakes.
On the second day of the conference — scheduled long before the Mideast unrest — the attendees got into classified discussions on countering al-Qaida's narrative and measuring the effect of counter-radicalization programs. But on the first day, at least, some of the conversations were more broadly based. A State Department official, Shahed Amanullah, ran through the ways effective al-Qaida propagandists spread their message on the internet, and described how a program he runs, called Viral Peace, seeks to troll the online radicals. Along with the NCTC's Dan Sutherland, one of the government's point people on stemming the appeal of al-Qaida, Amanullah took counterterrorists on a basic tour of the online extremist horizon and walked them through a few of the things the government does to confront it. It was 11 years and a day after 9/11, and the day after arguably the biggest intelligence and security failure of the Obama administration.
The U.S. has become exceptional killing Islamic extremists. But it still doesn't know how to undercut the appeal of Islamic extremism.
During those 11 years, the U.S. has become exceptional at hunting and killing Islamic extremists. But it still does not know how to undercut the basic appeal of Islamic extremism. Until it does, all the drone strikes and commando raids can do is keep terrorist attacks at bay. So experts inside and outside the government are working on an inchoate effort to supplement counterterrorism called CVE, for Countering Violent Extremism. It seeks a durable end to al-Qaida, through dissuading people from becoming terrorists in the first place.
"With CVE, the spectrum starts at prevention, with the regular Joe on the street," explains Humera Khan, who runs a number of such prophylactic programs and who spoke at the Sept. 12 event. "The idea is to increase the barriers to entry, so that he never goes down that radical path."
The problem is no one in or outside of the government is quite sure how to accomplish that task, and even some CVE advocates doubt whether the government will ever be able to do so.
A national security priority of the Obama White House, CVE is supposed to work by using the various government security branches to "empower" Muslim communities at home and abroad. The idea, its advocates explain, is that the U.S. government can't actually provide a resolution to the problem of Muslim extremism; Muslims communities themselves, with the indirect support of the government, have to do that. Much of the energy behind CVE work comes from outside government — these days, from an initiative spearheaded by Google. The government version of CVE seeks merely to provide cash and other resources for anti-radical "education." Or, as a White House strategy document put it, "Foster community-led partnerships and preventative programming to build resilience against violent extremist radicalization by expanding community-based solutions."
If that sounds vague to you, you've got plenty of company in Washington. There's nothing wrong with ambitious, long-term thinking, especially about how to bring the war on terrorism to a successful conclusion. But "community-based solutions" can mean everything from after-school programs to moderate Islamic rap to viral videos. It's tempting, U.S. officials say, for security bureaucrats to repackage their routine outreach efforts with Muslim community leaders as CVE in order to placate the White House. Measuring the success of CVE is difficult. So is tallying the money spent on it. Inside the government, CVE advocates lament that Washington talks a lot more about CVE than it actually does; and critics contend that CVE is all messaging and no substance. There's also an unmistakeable air of political correctness to it, with practitioners defensively insisting that their focus stretches beyond Muslim extremism.
There are also major legal issues, especially when the government engages in counter-radicalization at home. Countering al-Qaida's message means countering al-Qaida's theology. It means, in effect, calling one branch of Islam authentic and another one bogus. Which is a problem, since taking sides in theological disputes runs headlong into First Amendment's prohibition against establishing a religion. "The U.S. is not going to pontificate on excerpts from the Quran," explains Juan Zarate, a deputy national security adviser for counterterrorism in George W. Bush's White House and an early CVE advocate. "It's an impediment — a necessary one, given our Constitution." But the CVE workaround is to indirectly promote alternative Muslim voices, which is arguably not much different.
So it's no wonder that the National Counterterrorism Center felt the need to take stock of CVE. Its strategic importance could be enormous. But for now, it remains a well-meaning but immature discipline, with its leading figures readily admitting that they're still feeling around in the dark. And conspicuously, CVE avoids discussing any change to U.S. policies in the Islamic world that spur Muslim anger. The only thing uniting everyone involved in the CVE debate is that any solution CVE yields won't manifest for a long, long time. Better order another round of crab cakes.
Native Tongues
Within the Obama administration, CVE has become a staggeringly vast enterprise. Agencies including the Department of Health and Human Services, the Department of Homeland Security, and the Office of Safe and Drug-Free Schools (.pdf) are now part of the CVE push. A team in Foggy Bottom makes parodies of al-Qaida's online advertisements and creates mobile-friendly digital videos that mock the radicals. The U.S. ambassador to the United Kingdom spoke at a notoriously extremist London mosque in the name of CVE; the year before, al-Qaida propagandist Anwar al-Awlaki preached from the same pulpit. One adviser to the U.S. military tells Danger Room that he considers joint exercises with other countries' special forces to be CVE, since it builds relationships between forces for stability. Another officer says that developing the economy of Yemen is a top CVE priority — the country's got an extremely active al-Qaida affiliate, after all — and the Pentagon needs to take a more active role in it.
The State Department has even sent an Islamic rap group to various Muslim countries as goodwill ambassadors. The group, Native Deen, sometimes worries about seeming like "puppets," as one of its members told The New York Times. A major government collection of thinking floats "the use of rock and roll to counter violent Salafi extremism." (.pdf)
However, the point people for many CVE efforts are not rockers, rappers, or school teachers. They're U.S. attorneys, FBI agents and homeland-security officials, who are often the highest-ranking federal officials in a given area. As part of the White House's instructions on "enhancing engagement," they meet with Muslim and other leaders, listening to grievances, explaining their actions and generally putting a face to the government. The White House concedes that it's not reinventing the wheel here: "Our approach is tailored to take advantage of current programs," reads a December 2011 CVE implementation plan.
These programs often resemble educational chats. Sutherland, a former Department of Homeland Security official now at NCTC, is an example. As part of Sutherland's community outreach efforts, he gave a talk last year in Gaithersburg, Maryland, on strategies used by propagandists like Awlaki to convince American Muslims they needed to wage war against their neighbors. According to an account of the meeting, Sutherland didn't come bearing money or a five-point plan to enlist Gaithersburgians in a government anti-extremist effort, but rather, he explained, "how the government can help connect them to public and private foundations that can fund counter-radicalization initiatives."
Inside the government, the watchwords for CVE programs are "building resiliency" with "community partners." As the White House framed it in a pair of 2011 policy papers, "well informed and equipped families, local communities, and institutions" (.pdf) are the "best defense" against jihadis gaining influence within Muslim enclaves inside and outside the United States. In practice, that means a lot of outreach initiatives, aimed to convince Muslims that the U.S. government is here to help, providing "entrepreneurship, health, science and technology, educational exchanges, and opportunities for women."
That also describes some of the government's CVE programs that take place far from American soil. In addition to Viral Peace, Amanullah runs another program for the State Department, called Generation Change. While it's just beginning, in the spring, Generation Change sent sent American Muslim artists, writers and activists to countries like the Philippines and the Maldives this spring to tutor local activists on advocating effectively for their issues, often online. In the Philippines, that meant coming up with after-school programs as an alternative to the local extremism Madrassas. In the Maldives, it meant amplifying moderate Imams' messages through social media. It's considered to be a down payment on those voices drowning out the radicals, at some undetermined point. And it's not something the government considers itself possible to police, beyond getting people into a room for a quick tutorial.
"One metric — one guideline that's essential for CVE programming — is that it has to be local. You have to live there, know the community, know the context. If you're coming from the outside and you tell them what they ought to do — it doesn't work," adds Khan, who works on both the Generation Change and Viral Peace programs.
But some CVE proponents fear that leads government officials to content themselves with ad hoc outreach efforts that do little besides spread a feel-good message that al-Qaida is bad and the government is here to help, rather than convening programs to get spur active community movements against radicals. And when government officials come bearing little beyond rhetoric, frustrated officials complain, it can be ignored.
Alternatively, critics inside and outside government, think it's absurd for the government to talk up its "health, science and technology" and "educational exchange" opportunities with Muslim leaders by sending law enforcement, counterterrorism and homeland security officials. Sutherland and others get high marks for their nuanced understanding of Islam and the demonization Muslim communities face. But they're security officials, not educators. The White House's August 2011 CVE plan warns against "narrowly" building relationships with local communities "around national security issues alone," but the officials who build those relationships, however well meaning, overwhelmingly come from the parts of the government that can surveil, arrest and prosecute people.
Implicate the Government
Sutherland and other CVE officials see themselves, justifiably, as the opposite of the anti-Islam crowd that has sometimes been invited to tutor the FBI and the U.S. military about the dangers of Islam and average Muslims. The problem, as some see it, is that they're unwittingly playing the same game as the Islamophobes, from the flip side: They're implicitly making choices about whom within Muslim circles to promote as beneficial and authentic. In the U.S., that not only opens the door to the Sharia panic crowd. It may not even be legal.
The Bill of Rights forbids the Congress from making any law establishing a religion. But CVE is unavoidably about promoting a moderate brand of Islam. That makes it a Constitutionally questionable action for U.S. officials to take, argues Samuel Rascoff, a professor at New York University School of Law and the founder of the New York Police Department's intelligence analysis division. "When you implicate the government in a debate about what's acceptable and what's not under Islamic law, it tends to push the bounds of the First Amendment," Rascoff says.
The Constitution forbids the establishment of religion. But CVE is all about promoting a moderate brand of Islam.
If Washington isn't careful, it could find itself with the American version of the British government's well-intentioned "Prevent" CVE strategy. It ran aground after it gave government backing to particular mosques in the hope of building up a moderate Islamic bulwark to radicalism.
There are ways to minimize some of the legal issues involved, Rascoff adds. Overseas CVE isn't quite as problematic as the domestic stuff, and introducing Muslims to meet moderate figures is preferable to preaching to them. "It's a whole lot better than the government pronouncing on these issues itself. But being a backseat driver doesn't absolve the government of strategic or legal risk," Rascoff says.
There's another problem: No one seems to able to explain how much money the government actually spends on CVE. "I don't know the exact number," says Zarate, who oversaw some of the first CVE programs at the White House. When including existing programs that CVE "leverages," Zarate puts the annual haul at hundreds of millions of dollars — a substantial amount of money, but dwarfed by what the U.S. spends every week in Afghanistan. A more precise tally of CVE money is unavailable. (The Obama White House didn't respond to a request for comment.)
"In many ways," Zarate laments, CVE is "not the role of the U.S. government and that's a huge challenge." In response, over the past year, a private network has started trying to play the role that official channels can't. The most important player behind that network is, surprisingly, Google, which seems to have shifted its Don't Be Evil mantra to a fight-evil mentality. But it's not clear that a blueprint for effective CVE is Google-able.
Don't Be Violent
In late June 2011, Google's in-house think tank, GoogleIdeas, convened a set of meetings in Ireland called the Summit Against Violent Extremism. The conference was an extension of an initiative that GoogleIdeas founder Jared Cohen had in his previous life at the State Department: unite former extremists from all over the world with victims of terrorism; and connect them all to people with juice in the business, new media and philanthropic communities.
To defense wonks, talk about CVE treads over familiar territory, and some might be skeptical that assembling a coalition of former thugs is such a great idea. But to those outside that narrow community, hearing ex-extremists talk about cultivating a movement of moderates in places riddled with terrorism — and how ordinary Americans could help — provided a jolt of civic self-esteem. Many attendees had previously considered terrorism a faraway problem, and still speak of the conference with awe.
The conference featured gang-bangers, jihadists, racist skinheads … and LMFAO.
"Whether they were al-Qaida or skinheads or gang members, they told a similar story — they were young, looking for belonging and identity, and their norms shifted to violent extremism," recalls Aaron Bare, the founder of a digital strategy firm in Arizona and a summit participant. "It was to the point of seeing Palestinians and Jewish people hugging each other. It's a pretty wild experience."
Perhaps appropriately for a conference that linked tech executives with gang members and philanthropists to al-Qaida veterans, there was an element of the absurd. As the conference at the Hotel Gibson was winding to a boozy, heady close, in walked Skyblu and Redfoo, the frontmen for the pop group LMFAO. The buffoonish popstars were staying at the hotel while playing a show nearby, and they evidently didn't expect to see Google representatives chatting with Somalis who spent wayward youths in the radical ranks of al-Shebab. "LMFAO was fascinated by the fact that we were putting on this conference, there were all different people gathered together," Bare remembers. Party rock was in the house that night.
It's been over a year since the Summit Against Violent Extremism, and the celebrity cameos are over. But since it ended, GoogleIdeas has built a collaboration with a philanthropic collective called the Gen Next Foundation, a collection of young business executives that GoogleIdeas invited to the conference. Along with a London think tank, the Institute for Strategic Dialogue, the partnership seeks build a global movement of "Formers," a term for people who broke from the terrorist groups or gangs they used to belong to. The theory is that Formers are the most credible, viable voices to convince at-risk youth not to be about that life.
That movement, still in its infancy, resembles a counter-gang program applied to the problem of terrorism, and on a global scale. The Formers play the role of community activists, starting organizations like London's Quilliam Foundation, a de-radicalization think tank founded by Noman Benotman, a Libyan ex-jihadist. Members of the GoogleIdeas alliance provide minimal start-up capital, like money for leasing office spaces, and technical assistance like website hosting or design or help with setting up accounting systems. They describe it as a low-investment strategy with the potential to yield large dividends.
"Kids in London are susceptible to gang violence, so we Skyped in an ex-gang member from L.A.," explains Ross Frenett of the Institute for Strategic Dialogue. "That can be done with former al-Shebab members, too. By facilitating ideas, best practices get passed along and makes everyone effective, because those voices can be translated across state lines for no resources at all." (A GoogleIdeas representative deferred comment to other members of the coalition.)
But just because an idea comes from the GoogleIdeas network doesn't mean it's much different from the messages the government spreads. Bare, a member of the network, is involved in creating a digital marketing campaign for a forthcoming video created by the Muslim Public Affairs Council. The video, which isn't public yet, promotes the Syrian filmmaker Moustapha Akkad, who helped produce the Halloween franchise as well as Hollywood films that showed Islam in a positive light, like 1977's The Message with Anthony Quinn. Akkad was killed in a 2005 Jordan bombing — which the video uses to underscore al-Qaida's tendency to kill Muslims. That was a message the government spread when it released selected musings of Osama bin Laden found during the raid that killed him. (Bare says the NCTC introduced him to the Muslim Public Affairs Council, but otherwise didn't have anything to do with the project.)
Private-sector CVE shares another key attribute with the government version. Neither can clearly measure whether they're successful. When a drone releases its missile, it either leaves dead bodies or it doesn't; kills the right people or it doesn't; and prompts a backlash or it doesn't. CVE proponents tend to discuss success in terms of whether their programs continue, rather than the results they yield. Zarate, now with the Center for Strategic and International Studies, looks at whether there are "more groups forming, more conferences," indicating a grassroots movement against extremism, and how extremist messaging shifts in response. Frenett says "the success metric is to change and influence the dialog."
An adviser to the U.S. military is more blunt. When asked how to measure CVE, he answered, under condition of anonymity: "You don't, immediately." Any victories will take decades to materialize. "If we're really playing the long game, we have to play long."
War of Ideas
Cohen's private CVE network had something of a beta test when he was inside government. He was among a community of apolitical Bush administration officials who considered the "war of ideas" an endgame to counterterrorism — but couldn't quite define what that should mean.
In 2005, Zarate and others inside the White House tried to figure out how it deny al-Qaida a new pool of recruits. It was an urgent concern: Al-Qaida was profiting from the Iraq war; Abu Ghraib was a fresh memory; and Osama bin Laden felt bold enough to release a lengthy boast about "bleeding" the U.S. into "bankruptcy." To understand the question, he brought in a researcher from outside government named Quintan Wiktorowicz, who had studied radicalization extensively throughout the Middle East.
The new goal was ripping al-Qaida's brand apart.
The two quickly found they saw things similarly. "Part of challenge here was, how do you foment a grassroots countermovement to al-Qaida?" Zarate remembers. "How do you enlist and empower credible voices?" They had few answers. George W. Bush frequently called the war on terrorism a "war of ideas" as much as a shooting war, but the shooting war sucked the bureaucratic oxygen out of the war of ideas. As Zarate and Wiktorowicz found, the government didn't know how to prosecute a war of ideas, and its efforts became the job of a successive series of State Department public-diplomacy specialists, who tried — and largely failed — to rebrand America as a place that believed Muslims were A-OK.
In 2007, a new public-diplomacy undersecretary at the State Department, James Glassman, put a different spin on it. Public diplomacy would fail if it was about branding America, since foreigners rolled their eyes when they heard Americans talking up the greatness of America. Public diplomacy, Glassman thought, should be about ripping al-Qaida's brand apart. The problem, as Zarate and Wiktorowicz found, was finding the "credible voices" who could do that. Glassman had a secret weapon: a 20-something phenom named Jared Cohen, who made the quick jump to a plum job on State's policy-planning staff.
Cohen had one possible way to square the circle: a youth summit. He could bring together survivors of extremist conflicts around the world — eliding the controversial question of whether Islamic extremism was the problem — to kickstart a countermovement that placed the U.S. on the side of dynamic youth who rejected violence. "We're getting behind other people who are doing good things," Glassman said a 2009 interview, rather than doing those things themselves, which had the virtue of eliding the U.S.' thorny credibility problems. The result was an unusual confab in New York, which linked the survivors with representatives from social networks like Facebook and HowCast and got the backing of MTV.
The summit, called the Alliance of Youth Movements, didn't coalesce into the "countermovement" that Zarate and Wiktorowicz wanted. It also punted on the harder questions: what exactly the government could do to kickstart one; how to judge its success; how to turn it from a boutique, gimmicky event and into a movement, with government support — but not so much that the official backing would prove counterproductive.
Still, several likeminded officials, including Bush veterans who rose in the new Obama administration, thought there was a worthy germ of an idea: partner with local communities to help them solve their own problems. Cohen, after becoming a media superstar by quietly convincing Twitter to remain active during Iran's 2009 Green Uprising, defected for Google, which he thought could do more than government could. But Wiktorowicz got a job working for the most powerful U.S. official in counterterrorism circles: John Brennan, Obama's chief counterterrorism aide.
Brennan is most known for his role overseeing U.S. drone strikes around the world, but he's also spoken against demonizing Muslim communities. "Because you are American Muslims, you have suffered the consequences of this violent extremism in a way the rest of us will never know," Brennan told the Islamic Center at NYU in 2011. Brennan, who has often expressly argued that terrorism is un-Islamic, lamented that American Muslims have "frequently been forced to defend and define your faith, and this can be especially hard because so many people develop such a distorted view of Islam." Accordingly, Brennan put Wiktorowicz in charge of a new White House office, started in January, called Community Partnership, to flesh out a White House goal of helping at-risk communities — seemingly a euphemism for Muslim neighborhoods — "protect themselves" from violent extremism. Nine months later, Wiktorowicz was one of the featured speakers at the National Counterterrorism Center's Virginia CVE conference.
Propaganda of the Deed
We know al-Qaida is losing the battle of ideas when it changes its message. But that message doesn't shift in response to U.S. official narratives or government-sponsored community meetings. It shifts in response to setbacks on the ground: Osama bin Laden's death, its self-inflicted loss in Iraq, the shockwave of the Arab Spring. As the anarchists say, the propaganda of the deed speaks loudest.
And that's may be the biggest shortcoming in this whole CVE campaign. It only tackles the way the U.S. and its extremist adversaries market themselves. It doesn't address what the two sides actually do. The one thing the U.S. has never considered in the 11 years after 9/11 is an overhaul of its heavily militarized policies in the Muslim world. That gets into complex geopolitical conundrums about support for dictators, torture, rendition, occupation, oil, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and more — including, now, the drone strikes Brennan oversees while his deputy Wiktorowicz talks nicely about helping Muslim communities. There is more continuity on those policies between Bush and Obama than partisans of either care to admit. But when discussing "why they hate us," successive U.S. officials tend to elide the actual, policy-based grievances that people in the region state over and over again.
Which means CVE is even harder than it would at first appear, because it's got to compete with American drone strikes and commando raids. If there's a way of accomplishing that task, the U.S. hasn't found it yet. What it has instead are Dublin conferences crashed by pop stars, faith in the healing power of hip hop, and seminars on extremist web usage that are overshadowed by the burning husk of a Benghazi consulate.Go Back to Top. Skip To: Start of Article.


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http://tv.ign.com/articles/845/845437p1.html i found this, says its true but we'll see...
http://tv.ign.com/articles/845/845437p1.html i found this, says its true but we'll see...
yeah, that's old news, and just one more reason not to watch it. seeing how more of fetts mystery dissapears will only destroy the character further. they messed up the original trilogy and they are at it again.
I hope that Fett in the new show will be painted like the Holiday Special.. Oh yeah, I said it.
I agree that Fett's mystery is what made him. That is part of the reason I dislike and try to stay away from Fett in the EU.
personally I don't see anything wrong with the whole no mystery bit. Who cares, it doesn't make him any less a bad *** and it only gives me something to watch with my favorite character. It seems some people will complain if he's not in it and will complain when he is in it. I'm looking forward to it, and as long as they don't bring in Jar Jar, I'll be pretty happy.
Maybe they'll keep him that mysterious figure and show more why he is so awesome and why he is feared. I'd like him to be a man of few words and a lot of action. He better not take off his helmet...
I wonder what his costume is going to look like? Will it be any different? Rotj? ESB? Open a new door for Fett costumers perhaps? hmmm heh
I think the Holiday colors would be really cool, I mean Boba must have taken his fathers bucket and uses it to remind and drive him to COMPLETE TOTAL UTTER ABSOLUTE VICTORY over his prey. And I am sure he repaints it a few times thus the layers of colors seen through the weathering.
It would be kind of neat if they started with a HS type paint and then added to it and changed it to what is has become as they went along.
Well they did decide to show the progression from Phase I clone armour to Stormtrooper armour so it's safe to say someone in Lucas film was paying attention then, so it's possible someone will with Boba and his appearance (of-course they also showed they weren't paying attention in the Special Edition's with things like getting the shoulderbells the wrong way around so they may screw it up completely!)
As to boba taking his helmet off and some of the mystery remaining, we already know what he looks like, or will look like (to a degree) when he gets to Jango's age. We know where he's from and what happened to him during his formative years so what mystery is there that the TV show could destroy? Another thing is that very few actors will want to remain faceless with a helmet on when they are the star (or co-star) of the show. In the films it worked because we weren't seeing much of Boba, but when we got to see Jango we had to see his face in order to see him as more then just a faceless killer. We needed to connect to him and that's nigh on impossible if you don't know what he looks like under the helmet.
Look at Hollywood for examples: Judge Dredd - Stallone takes his helmet off (much to the chagrin of fans). Robocop - Takes his helmet off, hell! Even the predators take their masks off! And tv shows do it more then films. As far as I can see there is no reason for Boba not to take his helmet off, at least in this coming series.
i remember when Kane got unmasked.
haha wrestling.
everybody get's unmasked. every mystery gets ruined eventually.
we just are moving to an age where people don't want to have belief and question anything.
people need to see stuff.
sometimes it just sucks.
i hope that boba ends up in the new clone wars.....and yes i know some hate it but you gotta admit, any ep that deals with the clones is awesome, any ep with anakin SUXORS. and i agree holiday fett would be BA
I'm just psyched to see how they handle it.
Remember when KISS was unmasked? HAHA, oh, my sides...
Yeah, I don't know if I wanna see him in the new show or not. Part of me says 'yes', and then there's the part that thinks they'll mess it up. I haven't read much EU stuff, but take the computer games for example. By Empire, most of us think of him as being as one of the meanest dudes in the galaxy, but he's in a ton of games where you as the player, have to defeat him. And that's led to a fair few defeats!
Then if he's in this new show, possibly chasing down the main characters (who of course will have to get away because they're the main characters), Fett might end up looking like a useless idiot. Not good.


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Supporters of liberal candidates in a municipal election went through normal procedures required by law such as gathering signatures for their candidates and submitting them to the appropriate authorities. But, this is Putin Russia in which supporters of candidates can gather signatures but it is up to some bureaucrat to decide if the names written on the piece of paper are really Russian names. After all, maybe some people from Great Britain or the United States or elsewhere submitted their names in order to create disturbances in the beautiful land of Putin where democracy is based on the concept of doing what the Supreme Leader says is correct. Anyway, a judge threw out the petitions for the candidates on ground that an "expert" had decided they were forgeries and no one can challenge the argument of an "expert" since by definition he is an "expert."
Tatyana Kondratkova, put it clearly: "This outrageous decision has destroyed what little hope I had left for what remains of democratic principles and fair trials in Russia." Most probably word came down from above not to allow liberal candidates to run because if they won they might initiate investigations of corrupt officials. Simple solution, prove they are the stooge of those damn liberals who really don't exist so the names on the list are not real. Life goes on in Putin Russia.


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Texas Parks and Wildlife Department game wardens working with other law enforcement agencies will be concentrating their efforts on enforcing boating while intoxicated (BWI) laws this summer, but they'd just as soon see boaters go to school than jail.
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|Mr. P-Body
Never said there was anything WRONG with Egge. I SAID, there are much better pistons available for the same or less money. I have no idea who the shop you mention is. If they use Egge, I suspect they do restoration and mild performance. Egge pistons are NOT suited to high performance applications. Cast and too heavy. Light forgings are nearly ALWAYS better for any application.
My point was to NOT limit yourself. There are innumerable combinations to make engines do different things. No need to be defensive, it's YOR money, spend it how you see fit. But remain open-minded, as that's how we (car folks) move ahead. No matter how you approach this, it's GOING to make torque, so relax about that. Not unlike the Pontiac, the Cad can make TOO MUCH torque at too low an engine speed.
|I used to play around with this sort of stuff. You can build a 470 cubic inch RB Mopar by using BB Chevy rods, offset grinding the crank to the BBC journal size and boring the pin end of the rods and cutting the cylinders to receive 429 Ford pistons.
425 Cadillac into a Stroker 454
I understand what some have said, but, the main reason for my choice of a 425 Caddy is, I already have it. I've had the engine since 1998 & I bought the whole car that it was in for $125 in running & "drive-able" condition as a "parts car". Also, for me to buy even a "core" 454 Chevy engine would be quite expensive. The cheapest 454 Chevy that I've found within 250 miles from my house is being "offered" at $800 & that doesn't include the cost of getting it & bringing it home.
So by the time I got that "core" 454, got it home & looked it over, I would already have well over $1,000 into it. Way too expensive! And, like someone had already said, even with a pair of aluminum heads ($$$), a 454 Chevy is still heavier than a stock 425 Caddy. Also for those who keep suggesting that I get a 500 Caddy, that too is too expensive. The cheapest "core" 500 that's in pieces is "for sale" at $650 & it is over 150 miles from my house. Again, too much to invest just to start over. I can use the money spent on that, towards the machine shop charges on my already existing 425 Caddy engine.
I hope that explains my reasoning for doing what I'm doing with a 425 Caddy engine.
|I also don't understand all the work to build a 425 into a 454 but as I always say..... to each his own. Here's my 507" Cadillac that I've shown before to non-believers. I did a lot of head work with larger SS valves, shaft mounted roller rockers, 228/235 dur. cam, single plane int. with Quick Fuel 780 vac. sec.carb but it's still only 8.7:1 compression. We dyno'd it on 89 oct. gas, 466 hp @ 5,000 and 535 torque @ 4300......got about $6700 in it total
The weight savings per head is 50 lbs., so it's 100 lbs less with aluminum heads vs. cast iron in a BBC. So 40 lbs. lighter than the non belly button 425 Caddy.
You Chevy haters are alwways looking for a reason to knock a Chevy engine, big or small.
I don't understand the thinking here. Seems like a lot of time and money to make a 454 out of a 425 Cad engine, when it would have been cheaper and easier to just buy a 500 Cad and drop it in.
I'd rather have a 500 Cadillac than a reworked 425 to make 454 c.i. And if weight is your main consideration, then I'd spend the money on a pair of aluminum heads to bolt on a Chevy 454 and use that to save weight. A 454 with aluminum heads will be lighter than the 425 Caddy.
425 Cadillac into a Stroker 454
In reply to "Mr. P-Body", If I'm reading you correctly, it sounds as if you're trying talk me into "de-stroking" & "going" bigger in cubic inches. I'm actually wanting to increase the stroke, but not any more than what Cadillac did with
the stock 500 c.i. engines. More stroke=more torque. Then your next question was, why I want to use a smaller engine block if I had a 500 block. The 500 block was cracked in the area of the "driver's side" motor mount & down that
side of the block above the oil pan. But that wasn't the only thing wrong with that block, one of the pistons broke the two compression rings & one of those
gouged a rather deep grove into the cylinder wall & locked that piston up, (& the entire engine was "stuck" because of that. That's why the car it was in was in the junk yard. I bought that 500 just for the parts that I "salvaged" from it, as it was from a "U-Pull-It" yard & engines were "on sale" the week that I bought it.
As for the reason for the EGGE brand of parts, if something was wrong with them, why are the guys at MTS using them? Also, that company's been in business almost as long as there have been cars around. (allot longer than I have). I do (however) agree with you that their parts are a bit on the "historic" side as they don't make parts for engines newer than 1980. And, using pistons that were made for another engine than the one that I'm going to be putting them into will cause me to have to "mill the deck" quite a bit to get a good "quench" or a decent compression ratio out of it, is a bit on the
costly side, but I've already got "into" it & cannot afford to change "horses"
now that "the race has started". And, besides that, if I don't "go for it" & stop
now, I do have another complete (untouched) bone stock (1978) 425 sitting
in my back shed. But, I've been wanting to do a "Caddiolds" 454 for years. I planned it out & have been told by quite a few people that it can be done, just not really needed to be done. Also, I want to keep the "cubes" no bigger
than 454". After all, that's the "stock" size of the most common of the Big Block Chevy engines, & this is going into a Chevy car. I didn't want to use a Chevy 454 because those are heavier than a Caddy engine, must be revved higher to get to the same power as that of A well built Caddy, they aren't cheap to get anywhere, & I'd have to do allot of front suspension parts swapping & alignment work to accommodate a "Rat motor" 454 engine. The car that I have was originally a 307 sbc car. That engine doesn't run & would
cost allot to get it running as the rings are stuck to the pistons from many years of sitting in a barn. And the valve seals are all rotted out too. Most everyone who's ever "messed around" with the late '60's Chevy 307's know that those weren't anything worth working on when something went wrong with them. Like the mid '70's Chevy 305's, they work OK at best when nothing 's wrong with them, But once something goes "amiss" then it's "best" to replace them with something better. So, being that a Cadillac engine only weighs @ 40 lbs. more than a small block "Chebbie" & the 425 Caddy engine
is told to be @ 100 lbs. lighter than that even, well, that makes swapping one in where a 305,307 or 350 was, a "piece of cake", (other than the motor mounts & oil pan" other than those, it's practically a "drop in". In 1973 - 1987
Chevy & G.M.C. trucks, even easier. The only thing needed to do there is, move the motor mount plates that are bolted to the truck's frame @ 4" forward & maybe the right exhaust manifold will need a slight "trimming" to clear the frame. I know that because I did that with a 1979 Chevy one-ton
truck & the 425 Caddy engine that I'm rebuilding into the "Stroker 454".
|Was the 500 block a good block? If it was, why yank parts from a bigger engine to make a smaller one from the same family with more money invested?
425 Cadillac into a Stroker 454
I asked for detailed info on the history, (or time line) on the production run on all Cadillac V-8 engines, what sizes, when they were made & what cars did they get put in. Well, I got referred to a couple of web cites, one being Wikipedia. That one has all of the Cadillac V-8 engines listed. The 429 c.i. was produced from 1964 through 1967 & it was of the same (basic) design as that of the 390 c.i.. Then, (because of design & casting molds getting worn) Cadillac introduced the 472 in 1968. Two years later, the 500 started production. It wasn't untill AFTER 1970 that Cadillac started to "code" their engines with a single letter code. The 500 c.i. were all "coded" with an "S" code. Then, because of a government ordered "mandate" in 1976, the next year production of all American full size cars had to be "downsized". That included the engines. So, Cadillac started producing the 425's. Those were coded either an "S" or "T" code, "S" for carburetted, "T" for fuel injected. Then, when 1980 came about, The 425's were considered "too large" & That's why Cadillac started making the 368. The 368 looks allot like the 425-500's but internally are quite different. Especially after 1981 when the V-8/6/4 idea
came out. That didn't work well at all. So, then a totally different Cadillac engine went into production that wasn't anything close to the engines that were before that.
Now, as for the (1979) 425 Cadillac getting "Stroked" or "morphed" into a 454 c.i. engine, I decided that I was going to have to "go it alone" without the
assistance of people who "claim" to be supportive of all things Cadillac.
I did read some older "threads" about the use of Oldsmobile parts in a Cadillac
engine & most did say that it can, & has been done many times in years past,
but never heard of anyone doing that to a (late '70's) 425 Caddy engine. But,
now, there's at least a couple of people (I being one of them) that's willing to
try that. So far, I've collected a crank from a junk yard 500 block, a set of
mid '60's Olds 425 connecting rods & the intake manifold from the same "junk yard" 500 block. I've also bought a set of "Hell's Gate" brand header flanges
& two pair of Ford 351/400 m headers for re-shaping to fit the Caddy flanges
as the Caddy engines aren't "oriented" the same as the rest of the G.M. V-8
engines were back then. The Caddy engines were more like Fords than Chevy,
Pontiac, or Oldsmobile. Buick V-8's were very close to the Caddy engines though. The Buick 455's were almost the same as that of the Caddy 472 & 500's. Now, back to the "Stroked" 425 Caddy. I just recently bought a Chevy
big block 8 quart 454 truck oil pan to "modify" by cutting the gasket flange off
just below the top edge, then, do the same to a Cadillac mid sump oil pan, (one of the most common styles of Cadillac oil pans) then, re-welr the Caddy oil pan's gasket flange onto the Chevy oil pan so that I can have an oil pan
that'll allow me to install the Caddy engine into a Chevy car chassis. I also
know that I'll have to buy a new oil pick up tube that's originally designed for
a late '60's through late '70's El-Dorado in order to have the pick up centered into the oil pan's "sump". I have yet to order the pistons & their related parts,
but that's soon to happen.
Well, that's "it" on the project for now, so, later
|Mr. P-Body
When I saw the recommendation for Egge pistons, a "red flag" went up. While Egge makes a decent product, and one can certainly get them to make stuff nobody has made in 40 years, using them for Olds or any other "modern" application piston could be far more expensive than it appears. We do a lot of "mix and match" with bores, strokes and rod lengths. For less money, one can have "custom" forgings using better techniques. Speed Pro and Icon also offer a good forging for reasonable money for the Olds piston.
Bear with me for a moment. Consider this: Using your existing 425 crank, you can offset-grind to the desired 4.3" stroke (we're not gonna quibble over .003" here) and end up with a VERY desirable 2.2" rod journal (BBC). The Caddy cranks are good nodular units, so this will not weaken it significantly, and if the radii are ground properly, will actually strengthen it. Using the Eagle CRS7100C3D rod (narrowed back to BBC size) and a "custom" piston (of what ever bore size you desire) with a pin height of 1.52" will put you right there, with MUCH better parts for about the same money. The BBC rod bearing is .060" or so "wider" than the Cad, but narroweed bearings are readily available.
After looking at the various combinations available with factory parts, I'm thinking a better approach might be a 500 block and 368 or 425 crank (4.255 x 4.03). That makes 467 CID with a "big" bore and shorter stroke.
There are many performance parts available for the Cad these days, as it's a popular engine among the "claimer" roundy-round crowd.
425 Cadillac into a Stroker 454
No, you're wrong. The 425 Cadillac engines were produced by General Motors
from 1977 through 1979. They appear to look almost identical to the 472 & 500 c.i. engines that were produced from 1968 through 1976. The 425's shared the same engine code as the 500 c.i. engines, that be; "S" code for the carburetted
versions. Check with Cadillac history before assuming something that's not correct. The 429's were produced from the early 1960's through 1967, not at all
the same as the 425's!
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I had something like this happen to me and my GSD maya last week at a petco. I walked in and a small mixed bread dog charged us as soon as we entered the store and maya "answered back" and the lady just about had a hart attack. She looked at me as if were my dog that started it.
It drives me crazy that people let there little breed dog do just about anything it wants to without correction and just think its funny. If we would let our GSD's do the same thing we would be in court definding our dogs life.
I used to think that people who let their dogs run lose were either rude, lazy, non caring, etc...
But one day a few months ago my youngest son left a door open to our house to
go and say hi to a friend, when my dog ran outside...
She ran out barking at another dog...She really looked and sounded scary...
Thank God she just wanted to play and the other leashed dog owners were very kind about it..
So lesson learned.....Accidents can happen and i will not be so judgmental...haha..
Now i keep a few treats just in case...Also i look at it as a learning experience for my dog. Most of the time the 2 dogs are fine and just want to play..
Funny growing up most EVERY family who had a dog used to just let it out to do their business...Most dogs just ran wild..haha..No problems back in the day..
Now we are all horrified when we see a lose dog. haha..
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BTW short swift kicks are a lot more effective than long punt like kicks!
Personally, I would rather kick their owner for allowing their dogs to run amuck. But sadly, it's against the law.
I too have experienced the little terror's charging my boy, I just charge straight towards the little dogs, and they turn and run when they see me coming straight for them lol. As far as big dogs I've only had one charge at us, and I did the same thing I did to the little dog, he didn't run but stopped dead in his tracks and focused on me, at which point so do I. Then I proceeded with my walk while keeping a firm "don't you dare" look on the big dog. I never use my voice on other people's animals as don't expect them to acknowledge it anyway.
I'm not afraid of dogs though and can remain calm while it's happening, so I don't know how others might handle a larger charging dog, as most I assume might panic, but the little ones? Just stomp right towards them, and they'll scatter, then keep it moving.
The little dog's in my hood haven't charged since.
Oh and Barack just wags his tail during all of these encounters and struts off with me... he knows he's with the "biggest dog" of'em all!
I used to always have troubles with little dogs too.
Where I live now every one has a dog, and they are often in the back of trucks laying down out of sight till we walk by, then they pop up out of nowhere barking their fools heads off. Due to not knowing they are there is startles me and that travles down the leash. There are enough off leash dog here, that I do not walk in the neighborhood. That would be a recipe for disaster!
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I'd rather be known as the mean old neighbor lady than have any loose dog harassing my dog ... my first allegiance is to protecting my dog.
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Oh, I did tell them all of the above but I mean, what do I do physically to stop the small dog from getting at my dog short of kicking it ?
Punch it?
Seriously, the little dogs can be a large problem - I surely wouldn't let my dog get bit by some lunatic dog!
Esp. with a puppy - stay between your dog and the other dog. And if it seems like you can't block them - kick away. Protect your baby!
BTW short swift kicks are a lot more effective than long punt like kicks!
There are three little dogs that are ALWAYS out running near their homes collarless and unsupervised. Very dangerous for them! I've talked to my neighbor who has a very nice Bernese and experienced the same problem and she has call AC numerous times -but no resolution. Fortunately, they are not aggressive and honestly I think they just want attention although I ignore them.
But what I do with Enzo is before we approach the area where they are I do a quick obedience session sit, down, sit, stand, down, look-at-me ect basic commands he has down so his attention is on me already before we enter little dog area. And as we begin to walk I ask for eye contact and feed feed feed as we walk through the little dog. I think this works for us because Enzo is always hungry before walks and the little dogs aren't aggressive or barking at him. I will also do this before we approach a home where there are "yard dogs" at the fence that bark at everything. Good luck! I just feel bad for these little guys since it seems their owners don't worry about their well-being during the day. :/
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|Little dogs are the worst. The only ones that bark at my dog as well. She is good though and usually ignores them.
Thanks the great advice, I will get some of her favorite treats out and work on distracting her next time.
She is very driven by her snacks so it should be just fine.
Lillie nailed it, I am trying to avoid her being reactive by staying calm myself.
I just wish people realized the danger they are putting their small dogs in by having them running around loose all over the place.
Also I just wanted to add that while I don't generally care what people think, I run a licensed daycare from my home and everybody in this little town knows everybody.
Me telling people off would hurt my business lol
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As Virginia took the field today to take on the Penn in its last regular-season game of 2011, the absence of two athletes was noticeable right from the start.
As part of its senior night, Virginia recognized each one of their seniors one by one prior to the start of the game. Twin brothers Rhamel and Shamel Bratton, however, received no such recognition. Then came the starting lineups. Yet again, no Brattons on the first midfield line as had been their customary role for most of the season. Indeed, neither of the Brattons were even present on the field.
Friday, it was announced that Rhamel Bratton had been suspended indefinitely from the Virginia lacrosse team, while Shamel Bratton had been dismissed from the team completely.
"You can assume it's been as difficult a week as you can imagine," Virginia coach Dom Starsia said Saturday. "No matter what, you hate to lose somebody, somebody you have made a great investment in and somebody you feel has made a great investment in you. You spend a lot of time together. At the same time there is a certain culture of a team that has to be maintained and that's the standard we have to hold everybody to."
At perhaps the most crucial time in the season -- just before the NCAA Tournament, Virginia lost not only two of its senior leaders, but perhaps two of the best midfielders in the country.
"In a way, we have been practicing harder," senior goalkeeper Adam Ghitelman said. "When you lose some of your best players like Rhamel and Shamel it's going to be tough. But you know for us it means we have to possess the ball on offense and tighten up on defense."
Shamel Bratton's dismissal does not come as a complete shock to fans, who have already seen the midfielder serve a single-game suspension following Virginia's loss to Johns Hopkins and one earlier in the season against Stony Brook.
"I know a lot of people have been speculating that it was a team vote but that wasn't the case...It was a coach's decision. It had nothing to do with the players," Ghitelman said.
The senior goalie did emphasize that it was not completely out of the blue. "It's no surprise, that's all I'm going to say."
It is unclear at this point what exact behavior warranted Starsia's decision.
"I just as soon leave it within the team," Starsia said. "There is a standard of behavior to expect from your kids and sometimes, kids being kids, they make mistakes. It's just as simple as that."
One thing that is evident, however, is that the situation is and has been unpleasant for all those involved, including Shamel Bratton.
"I think you can imagine how somebody would take [the news]," Starsia said. "This has been very difficult for everybody involved. Nobody wants these things to happen. It made for a challenging week."
Based on the team's performance against the Quakers, one might not guess the team is so affected. A game that could mean not only home field advantage in the NCAA tournament, but perhaps determine whether the Cavaliers received an invitation at all, Virginia easily handled UPenn throughout the entire game.
"It was a good win against a good team and I thought we moved the ball sharply today; I thought we moved it smartly," Starsia said. "We understood today that we needed to be better as a whole than as individual parts."
The 11-2 victory could provide Virginia reassurance that the team can play even without some of their best players: the two Brattons and senior defender Matt Lovejoy, who suffered a season-ending injury earlier in the season. Moving forward, Virginia could see Rhamel Bratton rejoin the team, should his suspension from the team be lifted.
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lulz. that's kinda funny.
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