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Welcome to the Reproductive Medicine and Surgery Center
Virginia's Premier Infertility Clinic
Our fertility clinic offers comprehensive infertility treatments ranging from the initial diagnosis and treatment of infertility to advanced reproductive techniques such as IVF, donor egg, ICSI, and PGD.
Our IVF program was one of the first centers in the southeast- pioneering IVF to our region in 1986. We have helped thousands of couples conceive. We are so confident in our success we offer a 'Success or Refund' program guaranteeing a baby or your money is refunded.
Our clinic also offers the most advanced microscopic laser laparoscopy surgical procedures such as those used for tubal reversal surgery. A video of an actual laparoscopic tubal reversal procedure is posted.
It is not necessary for fertility patients to travel to distant fertility clinics in Washington, DC, northern Virginia, or Richmond. The Reproductive Medicine and Surgery Center of Virginia offers the highest quality fertility clinic services without the need to battle the traffic congestion of a big city or northern Virginia. This is extremely important for infertility and IVF patients in the Charlottesville region who must come to the clinic regularly during their stimulation cycles for estradiol measurements and ultrasound examinations.
Our three Virginia fertility specialists, Bruce Bateman, MD, and Christopher Williams, MD, and Laura Smith, MD are sub specialty board certified in reproductive endocrinology and infertility and are members of the Society for Reproductive Endocrinology and Infertility (www.SOCREI.org). For more information and to view the SREI brochure, please visit their Web site.
For a fertility specialist to attain board certification, he/she, must complete a four year residency in OB/GYN followed by a 3 year fellowship in Reproductive Endocrinology and Infertility. A series of rigorous written and verbal examinations are required to achieve board certification.
All of our physicians actively teach other physicians from the University of Virginia Medical School. Medical residents from the University of Virginia Health System visit our Virginia fertility center to gain clinic experience while working with our fertility specialists. Doctors Bateman and Williams were formerly on faculty at the University of Virginia, Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology, prior to transitioning to private practice.
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One of the missions of our Virginia fertility clinic is to provide highly personalized services in an environment where questions are encouraged. This may be different then larger fertility clinics in Virginia, because of the number of fertility patients seen give us more time to devote to "patient teaching". We believe that patients must completely understand all phases of their fertility treatments and be active participants in their therapies. It is truly a team effort.
Our Virginia fertility clinic reports its IVF success rates to the Society for Assisted Reproductive Technologies and the Centers for Disease Control. We have consistently high success rates.
IVF patients, who have undergone IVF treatments administered by other fertility clinics, often comment on the many differences offered by our IVF clinic. One of the major differences is the relaxed atmosphere found at our Charlottesville fertility clinic. We strive to make sure infertile couples never feel rushed. Also, rather than ultrasound technicians or nurses our fertility specialists usually personally see patients at every office appointment. Other large fertility clinics in Virginia may not have the time to devote to truly individualized care.
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5th Annual Science Day scheduled for Nov. 17
Release Date: 11/15/2010
Clarksville, Ark. --- University of the Ozarks will hold its 5th annual "Science Day" on November 17.
Students from area high schools are invited to attend this annual event, where they compete for a chance to win an Ozarks scholarship, free books, and other prizes from the campus bookstore. Students will also attend lab demonstrations in areas ranging from Biology and Chemistry to Sociology and Psychology.
"We are excited about having 181 students representing 12 schools on campus and sharing with them the exciting opportunities Ozarks Sciences offer. It has grown from about 50 students its first year," said Associate Professor of Biology Dr. Sean Coleman. "I hope the students visiting enjoy themselves, learn something, and spread the word about our amazing campus."
Ozarks Biological Society President Hannah Oakes is equally enthusiastic: "This year we have registered more students than we have ever had before. The Science Department and the student volunteers are looking forward to a busy but extremely fun day!"
If you'd like more information about Ozarks Science day, contact Dr. Sean Coleman at 479-979-1364.

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Typing 192.168.1.1 into the address bar of the computer's web browser often accesses the network router. Any security requirements to access the router, such as a user name and a password, are entered to proceed to the setup menu for the router.
A router will assign a unique internet protocol number to devices on the network via a process called the Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol or DHCP. Again, the internet protocol number for the router is often 192.168.1.1.
A DHCP screen lists the devices connected on the network through the router, often with a LAN or a wireless connection. The devices connected on LAN, an abbreviation for Local Area Network, are directly linked to the router via some cable interface. The wireless devices connect to the router via radio signals, in a manner similar to a wireless telephone.
The DHCP screen on the router, accessed from the 192.168.1.1 web address, can also show wireless devices on the network that do not belong in the network. Outside access to a wireless network is a risk for every network administrator. Wise administrators use a signal encryption and a password requirement for wireless access.
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Re: Puget Sound vs Lake Washington
Thanks again for all the feedback. The trip through the 2 bridges went smoothly and was really fun as everyone said. I'll keep practicing this route and hope to start another thread about going through the locks when I feel more confident going further out.
Re: Puget Sound vs Lake Washington
With 30' you should not have an issue at the bridges. even off to the sides. IIRC montlake has the lowest to the side at around 37, most are pretty levelish side to side. Freemont, yes you will have issues, then again, quite a few boats, both power and sail have to rise it at 28'! I've seen J24's raising it!
Re: Puget Sound vs Lake Washington
Thanks Marty. The specs on the boat I'm using says 30' bridge height clearance so I'll try to stay more to starboard and not hog the center lane too much.
Re: Puget Sound vs Lake Washington
Depends upon the AIR draft of the boat. If in a 22' boat as I recall you saying you are using. you could probably be off to the side and not have issues with the taller ones. Meanwhile myself, I'm probably right at 42', so needless to say, I hit them in the middle, most do not argue with me, even tho at 28' and 7000 lbs or so, they see I need ALL the height I can get! You will find that if you are in a boat that needs the air draft, you will usually get the right away with out too many issues, assuming you are also being somewhat good too, when going thru, I try to let folks know I am aiming by aiming well ahead of time, then once thru, move to the starboard where I should be. If the bridge is up, then take to the starboard a bit too. especially if two sailboats with air draft issues are going in opposite directions.
It is not as bad as you think it will be.
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Thanks John. That sounds very sensible. I was over analyzing trying to find some rules or traffic signals to follow so I dont cause an accident or disruption in traffic flow when it seems like the solution is just to circle and wait for a clear lane.
I guess it's time to go ahead and "just do it" like the commercials say. ;-)
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Luke- going under the bridges if you don't need them to open is a piece of cake, if there is a big boat coming thru just wait until they are clear. You can see both ends at Mountlake so you can just go when nothing is coming your way and you'll easily be past the bridge before anything big can get in your way. I would plan on motoring your first time, I've see small boats sail through but the wind needs to be just right. Once you are familiar with it you can decide if you want to challenge yourself by sailing all or part of it. Don't worry too much about opening Fremont, it's good experience and really easy. Wait until you are almost right at the bridge and give a good prolonged (4 seconds minimum) blast and then a short one. The bridge will normally give a return signal of either a long and short meaning that they will open soon, or five short meaning you are going to have to wait a while. Even milling around waiting is usually interesting, good practice keeping the boat in one spot or making tight circles while watching the kayakers and power boats go by. Once you see how easy it is to get to the locks you'll be wanting to take the next step and get to the "big" water. Locking through is easy too, post another thread when you are ready for advice on that.
One more thing- the trip from Kirkland to Lk Union is probably going to take you a couple of hours (at least), allow plenty of time to get there, do some exploring and back before dark (it's getting dark really early now, darn it).
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Motoring is probably in all reality, the ONLY way to go thru. One could sail the northern end of lk union, but if the goal is to go ALL the way thru, most will motor from one end to the other. Then if you are needing to open bridges, one finds that going in an informal group will occur many time. I only have to open for Freemont. But when I go thru the locks with a few others, I find I have to wait at freemont for the ones behind me to catch up. Same with going towards the locks. If I go under montlake ad university in the middle of them opening, I wait at freemont until they catch up.
For going through those bridges like montlake and university that you can go under without opening but just need to pass under the middle of the arch, how do you avoid going against similar boats from the opposite direction (maybe another sailboat or a big ship) who also have similar requirements to take the middle lane specially in a narrow channel like the Montlake cut?
Is there a protocol on who should go first while the other side waits?
If I am already commited to passing through to take the middle lane, can I expect the opposite boat to give way till I clear the bridge specially if it's one of the big cruise ships on the opposite side?
I see traffic lights that are green facing both directions on the side of the Montlake cut while red lights in the middle of the bridge again both directions. I'm guessing The red lights are only for boats requiring the bridge to open so the green means boats are good to go simultaneously in both directions if they dont need an opening?
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Motoring is probably in all reality, the ONLY way to go thru. One could sail the northern end of lk union, but if the goal is to go ALL the way thru, most will motor from one end to the other. Then if you are needing to open bridges, one finds that going in an informal group will occur many time. I only have to open for Freemont. But when I go thru the locks with a few others, I find I have to wait at freemont for the ones behind me to catch up. Same with going towards the locks. If I go under montlake ad university in the middle of them opening, I wait at freemont until they catch up.
Re: Puget Sound vs Lake Washington
Thanks John and Marty. I'll take it some baby steps at a time and get familiar first with the route from Lake Washington to Lake Union - so just University and Montlake bridges - before attempting to go further towards the sound. So I take it the plan to bring down the sails and just motor through the canal is the way to go?
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University is the lowest of the taller bridges at 42.5' during high water in the lake. Then Ballard at ~44' and montlake and 520 @ 45'. Freemont is listed at 28'. The RR bridge outside of the locks in saltwawater can vary from 38' to 50 depending upon the tide at the time. There are some depth signs on the bridge feet for lack of better wording saying how high the span is based on water depth at the time.
If you can get to Lake Union on a tuesday evening, could be quite fun as the duck dodge is going on, join if you can get there early enough. This PHUN race goes from about May to sept IIRC. THen jan to march on sundays?!?! is the Iceberg regatta or some such thing. Similar rules, many of the same sponsors. Three starts, fast med and half-assed.....oops, slow boat. Idea is a fun time with in the city showing off the sails of the boats etc.
Both races, info can be found in the local 48north rags and online at 48north.com. Yachting, another local freeby, has info as well.
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Holley variant choke questions, carb recommendations
I currently have a Road Demon 625 on my Chevy 283 equipped 67 Malibu (came with the car when I bought it..probably a bit much for the stock 283 :) ) and noticed that the electric choke mechanism on it (and a lot of Holley variants for that matter) seems a bit "dodgy". The carb sat for a while (along with the car), and even after spraying it with carb cleaner, the linkage still sticks from time to time and there's a bit of side play in it.. The first carb I ever dealt with was an Edelbrock Performer, and it's choke mechanism seemed much more robust...all metal parts... The Holley variants seem to have a bunch of plastic parts in the choke mechanism and just appears fragile overall...
The Edelbrock equiped car I had years ago was easy to start, but had a noticeable bog at WOT and thecarb needed to be rebuilt due to some casting shavings being left in it after assembly from the factory...
So far I do like the Holley variants, but the choke assembly really bugs me... I'm wondering if the manual choked BGs and Holleys do away with the plastic parts and have more robust choke assemblies, or if they still have plastic in there and are just as fussy.. :confused:
I may swap the 283 out for a 400 SBC I have ready to assemble, but I may also keep it in my Malibu for the time being and do some head, manifold, and carb swapping so it runs a bit better (has some oil burning issues that I'm diagnosing now..)..
So at the moment, I'm looking for a good reliable carb that has a smooth operating choke (be it electric or manual), doesn't have casting issues, has ample replacement parts, and will perform well on a pretty much stock cammed and headed 283 with the stock powerglide trans and converter (the engine does have headers and duals installed)...
Any suggestions??
I think you are needlessly worrying about something that gives no problems. I have been using Holley carbs for over 30+ years and have never had a choke problem. Plastic parts are in just about all carbs and TBI's.
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Green Bay Concludes Homestand on Saturday Afternoon
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GREEN BAY, Wis. (GreenBayPhoenix.com) - Green Bay looks to end its four-game homestand in winning fashion and improve its home winning streak to seven games on Saturday when it welcomes Cleveland State to the Resch Center on Saturday afternoon at 1 p.m. for the Horizon League Game of the Week. The Phoenix has won the first three games of the homestand using stifling defense in wins over Loyola, UIC and Youngstown State.
Freshmen Jordan Fouse (Racine, Wis.) and Carrington Love (Milwaukee, Wis.) sparked the 67-58 victory on Thursday against YSU. Fouse had 12 points, nine rebounds, three steals and two blocked shots while Love came off the bench to tie a career high with 11 points.
Cleveland State comes to Green Bay after a 69-57 loss at the hands of Milwaukee on Thursday night. The Vikings were led in scoring by freshman Bryn Forbes, who scored 16 points in the loss.
JOIN THE PHOENIX: Saturday's game is a Festival Foods Family Game with Free Throws with the Phoenix set to take place after the contest. The first 1,000 youth fans in attendance will receive a free jersey backpack compliments of S&L Motors. Youth tickets start at just $7 while adult tickets are sold for as low as $8.
FOLLOW THE PHOENIX: For fans unable to make it to the Resch Center on Saturday afternoon, the contest will be live on Time Warner Cable Sports32, ESPN3.com and the Horizon League Network. Jim Barbar will be the play-by-play announcer for the broadcast while David Kaplan will serve as the color analyst.
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1. INSIDE THE SERIES: Green Bay leads the all-time series with the Vikings 37-27, including a 22-9 record at home. The two teams split a season ago, with the Phoenix winning 71-67 at the Resch Center. Kam Cerroni (Sussex, Wis.) made 10-of-16 three-pointers in the two meetings against CSU last season, and he made 5-of-8 from long range to lead the Phoenix with 17 points in the win in Green Bay.
2. DEFENDING THE HOME COURT: Green Bay has won six-straight games at the Resch Center on the strength of its defense. The Phoenix has not allowed more than 58 points and has held four opponents in the 40s during the stretch. In the last six games at the Resch Center, Green Bay foes are shooting just 33.2 percent and averaging 49.2 points per game. Youngstown State shot just 30.5 percent from the field.
3. RESERVE ROLES: Despite playing just three players off the bench, Green Bay got 31 points from its bench on Thursday night. Love made all three of his shots and 5-of-7 free throws en route to 11 points. Also off the pine, senior Brennan Cougill (Sioux City, Iowa) and Cerroni added 11 and nine points, respectively. The 31 points scored off the bench was the second most by the Phoenix this season and most in a Horizon League game.
• LAST SEASON'S MEETINGS: Green Bay and Cleveland State split the season series in 2011-12, with both teams winning on their respective home courts. The Vikings took the first game 78-68 before the Phoenix posted a 71-67 win at the Resch Center on Feb. 21. Cerroni made 10-of-16 three-pointers and did not attempt a two-point shot against the Vikings while averaging a team-best 16 points per game. CSU senior Tim Kamczyc made 10-of-12 shots from the field and averaged 13 points per game.
• HOME SWEET HOME: Green Bay is 8-1 at home this season after six consecutive victories. In the past three seasons under head coach Brian Wardle, the Phoenix is 30-7 at the Resch Center, including a 20-3 mark since the start of the 2011-12 season. Aside from its defense, Green Bay is shooting 44.7 percent at home and outrebounding opponents by four boards per game. Led by Keifer Sykes (55-70), Green Bay has made 57 more free throws than its opponents have attempted. Sykes is averaging 17.1 points per game at home.
• FREE AND EASY: Green Bay is second in the Horizon League, and its 74.9 percent from the line ranks 25th nationally. The Phoenix is 296-395 on the season and, among teams ranked in the top-25 nationally in free-throw percentage, Green Bay has made the third-most free throws. On Thursday, Green Bay was just 5-of-9 and had missed its first three second-half free throws before connecting on 19-of-21 the rest of the game.
• RECORD STREAK: With a miss against UIC, Cerroni saw his school-record free throw streak of 40 consecutive free throws come to an end. Cerroni broke the record of 38 previously held by Matt Rohde (2002-03) with a pair of free throws at Detroit on Jan. 5, and his streak dated back to Feb. 4, 2012. The junior made all four of his free throws against Youngstown State and is now 32-of-33 at the charity stripe this season (97 percent).
• KAM CATCHING FIRE: Cerroni led the Horizon League in three-point percentage as a sophomore in 2011-12 but struggled early this season from long range. However, Cerroni is starting to catch fire. He drained all three of his attempts from beyond the arc against Loyola, and since Dec. 12 at Wisconsin, Cerroni is shooting 45.2 percent (14-31) from three-point range.
• HANDLE THE ROCK: Since a forgettable opener in which he committed eight turnovers without an assist, Sykes has been terrific handling the ball. With an assist-to-turnover ratio better than 2-to-1, Sykes has 73 assists compared to just 34 turnovers in the past 17 games. In addition to ranking fourth in the conference in points (15.3), he is tied for sixth in assists (4.1) and seventh in assist-to-turnover ratio (1.7).
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The Jays t-JAYS series is quite unlike the headphone maker's other pairs in one respect. They look rather odd, like a thumbnail that's been embossed into a matt black lozenge. However, we're not ones to judge books by covers or earphones by their shape. At around £79.99, they bridge the gap between the budget a-JAYS and the rather special dual-driver q-JAYS.
This is the top-end model in the t-JAYS line-up, benefiting from the three-button handsfree kit and remote control seen in the other "Four" Jays earphones. What you'll notice before this, though, is their odd design. Jays is known for making relatively petite earphones, having packed two armature drivers into the tiny Jays q-JAYS, but the T-JAYS are relatively oversized - in spite of using single dynamic drivers.
This extra bulk hasn't resulted in extra weight, though, with the t-JAYS Four weighing just 10g. They don't stick out conspicuously from your ear either, curving around the entrance to your ear canal and behind the lip of cartilage above your earlobe to help them stay in place.
In-situ, they fit in much more happily with the rest of the attractive Jays family, decked-out in the brand's characteristic soft touch black plastic finish. The only deviation from this is the sliver of silver plastic along the back edge of each bud - it doesn't have a function as such but is a nice reprieve from the moody black.
There are, however, a few disappointments to the design. It's a little trickier than normal to get a good fit with the supplied rubber tips, in part down to the non-bullet shape, and after some fiddling the noise isolation was still average for an IEM. This may be in part down to the little vents bored into the inner side of each earpiece.
Unless you'll spend every day aboard the London Tube or walking past building sites, it's a minor concern. We were less able to forget the weight issue. The buds are extremely light, but the 3.5mm jack junction half-way down the cable isn't. As an alternative to using a proper removable cable, the Jays T-Jays split the cable in two, so that if the jack at the end starts to fail you can simply replace an expensive stretch of wire. But the chunky housing of this junction pulls down on the earpieces annoyingly, becoming an issue when they don't create a vacuum-like grip in your ear canal.
This seems an unfortunate oversight when, as we noted when reviewing the a-JAYS Four, the Jays handsfree housing it as light as a feather. It's a three-button jobbie designed for use with iOS devices. A pinhole mic sits on the back to let you take calls, and the buttons offer full playback control over your music. The side buttons alter volume while the central button takes on multiple music duties - one tap for play/pause, two to skip to the next track and three to head back a track.
Without the niggling irritation of the cable junction, the t-JAYS Four would have been a great success in design terms - comfortable, light and surprisingly good-looking in action. It's not a massive complaint, but in the high-competition world of in-ear headphones, small mis-steps can be costly.
"At around £79.99, they bridge the gap between the budget a-JAYS and the rather special dual-driver q-JAYS."
The q-jays are a discontinued product and apparently nobody seems to have stock anymore.
You seem to be right. Can't even find any on eBay. I have a pair in the cupboard, stockpiled for the apocalypse.
I don't understand why Jays have stopped making them, given that they seemed so popular. I can't decide which others would be as good. Ideas?
The Ultimate Ears 700 are about as close as you can get in terms of both design and sound signature. I feel the treble is a mite too much on the 700s, but they're nevertheless very good. And occasionally you can find them for under £70 from Play or direct from Logitech.
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Welcome to gunco CRUE CAB! Stiring the pot on your second post ehh :nono:
Actually it was my first.
If true, its just another black eye for gun owners in the US. If false, Will Hayden needs to know what is being said about him and his shop.
its on ALL the sites & some in pretty deep details.. not like your posting anything thats not already out there.
Will "will" come back next week and im sure he will have something to say on it.
Anyone who has had an FFL, knows the horror of getting sweated by an ATF agent.
I sat in my buddies shop for a few hours and watched a rookie female agent ask if the mark was a comma or a period.
Our FFLs are our only link, too purchase new weapons.
Without them, guess what, we aint buying new guns.
Can you imagine the joy of a rookie agent, claiming bragging rites too busting RFF, for a possible simple error.
I cant even balance my check book. I would have an FFL shop for a week, before they closed my doors.
Will does not have too explain a damn thing.
What is happening too him, is what is happening too every guy trying too make a living with an FFL.
It is not just Will, this is happening in every other gun shop across America.
The antis are putting pressure on the ATF, too shut the shops down.
Lot of Agents I have talked too are pro gun, some don't want too see you own a B.B. gun.
Which one is walking through your door?
My prayers are with Will too get over this and on with a great show, showing a positive light on the gun world.
+1! they are working on the back door!
it is a sad irony that a tax paying law abiding citizen gets giged for paper work errors by the very agency that is shipping 1,000s of weapons to mexican cartels!
no wonder the washing monment cracked! :censored::censored::censored:
This is why you buy as many firearms and as much ammo as you can while you can. I have a few hundred firearms and now am "buying cheap and stacking deep" all the surplus ammo I can. Latest was a couple cases 7.62x54R from SG and a case of 7.62x39 from Copes. I figure it's only a matter of time - and if not I have "cheap" ammo for the rest of my life. After I'm gone I am beyond caring as I can't take it with me.
Yes I am on other sites and am reading what is being said.
Crook. Strong words. I personally have never heard a bad report, or feedback on RJF.
Once Hollyweird hit, just like Orange County Choppers problems.
People do strange things, when they smell money and I don't think we know, what is really happening behind the scenes.
Crook. Will has guns missing. That would make him the victim.


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WESTSAIL 32 and similar
Many of the posts have made some good points, others are so far off they have no basis in reality. I''m the first to admit that a W/32 isn''t the right boat for everyone, no boat is. When someone talks about buying a Westsail I ask what their plans are. If it''s weekends, vacation, and a possible trip to Mexico, I reccomend something like a Catalina 36. Although the last two peoiple bought Westsails anyway. Westsails are for long distance voyaging. If I had a nickle for everyone who said they were going crusing, I truly would be rich as most people never make it. Most of the kit boats are more than average quality, some are extraodinary. I''ve seen two that were better than any professionially built yacht. Some of the interiors are dark some are light, find the one you like. We spend our summers in 100 deg.+ heat, ventilation isn''t a problem. Our boat is anything but tender and that''s the first time I''ve heard that one. In some conditons they are more prone to rolling than a modern hull, but easy to deal with if you know what you''re doing. You do pay a penilty for the bowsprit in most marinas and they are not fun to out on in rough conditions, but a Profurl took care of that. I can''t remember how many times owners of 35-40 ft. boats have commented on how much more storage and carrying capacity we had then them. This has always been a strong point for the 32. Now as for the "Clawing off a lee shore". This fable is from the days before GPS and should rarely be a problem with modern navigation. We sail the Pacific coast which is usually rough and can be tricky. The one time we boxed ourselves in, pre GPS, the boat got us out of trouble without a problem.
Speed, this is the one you hear most. No they are not going to win beer can races, they were''nt suppose to, they were built to cross oceans. One Cal passing a 32 doesn''t tell us anything. Our club is full of Cal 25''s and I''ve probabbly passed most of them. I''m also not saying there isn''t light wind conditions that a Cal wouldn''t pass me in. I''ve passed countless boats and it doesn''t mean I''m faster. Friends on a Hunter 32 and a Catilina 30 left Monterey 1/2 Hr. before us. We caught and passed them before getting to Moss Landing in 8-10 knots. We followed a friend down the coast on her Islander 36. She couldn''t believe a Westsail stayed right on her stern the whole way. By the way, she''s still an active racer who once was on the olynpic team. In the 2003 puddle Jump there were 23 boats. the average length except for the two Westsails was 45.7 and the crossing 23 days. One Westsail, singlehanded crossed in 22 days and the other in 28 days. I''m not claiming the boats are fast, just not the slugs some people claim they are and when doing what they were designed to do, can more than hold their own. I''m also not saying Westsails are for everyone, because most people are only dreaming snd aren''t going anywhere. But if you really want a bullet proof long distance crusing under 35'', a Westsail is hard to beat. For 32'' they''re exceptionally strong, carry a payload that rivils many 35-40 footers, have a good turn of speed and a really clean one can be found for less than 50K. Westsail do have their short falls, but for a true voyaging boat under 35'' the''re one of the best, if not, at least the best buy.
WESTSAIL 32 and similar
I was struck by how this thread shows some of the traps we all face when sharing boat opinions on these BB''s. First, wouldn''t it be nice if the software had some kind of Google-like linking capability that tied this kind of query to all the other, similar threads. E.g. Steve''s question comes up about once a quarter here, I notice - no doubt because a) Westsail''s are recognized as ''real cruising boats'' and because they are cheap (on a $/# basis). It''s a shame we have to reinvent the wheel each time - I know I''m tiring of offering the same points, over and over.
But the bigger trap is that the original post is stated in a way - and we tend to react to it in a way - that makes it less productive to the poster than it could be. E.g. let''s assume for a moment that Steve posted the following query when beginning this thread:
"I''m pretty new to sailing and I have never owned a boat before. My wife will be less experienced [presumably] than I am. I''m looking for my first boat, which I plan to sail locally for an unspecified period. I may want to take it cruising - perhaps even cross oceans in it - or I may not. One boat I''m considering is 42 LOA, will weigh 10 tons when I''m daysailing it (11+ tons, loaded out), and is 25+ years old. My goal is to build my skills by using the boat to learn about sailing, to enjoy ourselves, and possibly prepare for cruising. What do you think of my plan?"
My hunch is that readers, seeing that, would surface a lot of relevant topics for Steve to consider: slip fees, the cost of a larger boat for a new owner (not always apparent to newcomers), the inherent costs in an older boat with older systems, questions about how diverse & deep his electrical/mechanical/rigging skills are, the wisdom of trying to pick a boat suitable for ultimate cruising challenges yet find it satisfactory as a learning & weekending boat, and so forth. I''m betting some questions would also naturally surface about where he''s located, since that will inevitably shape how suitable a given boat will be for him.
Those topics are probably where Steve could better use our help. But instead, he - and we - fall into the trap of zeroing in on a Westsail 32 and orbiting most of the discussion around it.
Steve, I''d encourage you to look at the issues I''ve listed above. As for the W32 specifically, dig into the archives (here and elsewhere) and you''ll find lots of add''l info, pro and con. And please keep in mind that the W32 comments you hear here are offered as tho'' we are talking about one fixed entity, meaning every W32 will have the same features and characteristics. That is mostly true of e.g. a Catalina 30 but it''s surely not true of W32''s. I personally have spent extended periods of W32s that are 10, 12 and 16 tons in displacement, I''ve seen ''opposing settee'' and ''dinette'' layouts, even been on some that have pilothouses and fully enclosed cockpits, see many with stand-up chart tables but others with sit-down chart tables, found double berths forward in some that others don''t have, and then there are the normal wide variances in material condition, equipment, and how old or new the electronics, engine and sails are.
Boats are deceivingly complex and older boats have many hidden secrets. You would maximize your sailing (and your sail learning) while reducing your repair and maintenance workload, if you sought out a 5-6 ton, 1990''s sloop that had been sold in large numbers and was fun to sail, and the two of you build your skill sets by weekending it, participating in the summer beer can races, and meanwhile forming your own views (rather than listening to ours) about what your cruising boat should be...if you end up even wanting one.
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I fully agree with the WestSail owner about some of the cut and paste assessments. I guess I have to get the mallet out.
Failure to mention lead for ballast. Biased info based on lack of knowledge? Or just biased info? There''s a huge diffence in motion, moment and stability between iron/concrete and lead. Lead is usually better.
Motion/roll studies? The Navy''s were probably done on ships and not 32'' boats. It''s humorous to even compare studies of one to the other. I worked on ships and sailed 1000s of miles in 30''ish size sailboats. Short motion on a ship means you can walk the deck without grabbing the rails. Long motion means you can''t walk without grabbing a rail. Short motion on a 32'' sailboat means you can''t be comfortable because it whips you too fast. Bunk boards and pillows needed to keep the body from moving so you can sleep. Wide easy motion means you rest without them...Westsails yes, modern go fasts no. There''s more but you should get my drift.
If anyone is of the go fast mentality then a WS isn''t the boat for them. It''s a 32'' boat with 18k lb displacement. If you want to race a 32'' boat get 6k displacement fin keel rig. If you want 18k lbs in a fast boat buy a 40''r.
I could go on with more examples but won''t...just don''t rely to heavily on what any single person posts on boats no matter how well read they seem to be.
Also keep in mind that WestSails have proven themselves capable and seaworthy by many circumnavigations for about three decades. You will be hard pressed to find WS owners unhappy with their boats.
Good luck.
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As an owner of a Westsail 32 I have to say while his ''pedigree'' is essentially correct the rest of Jeff_H''s (cut/paste) assessment of a Westsail (still) contains quite a few inaccuracies.
I know I''m going ''against the grain'' here. I do respect Jeff_H''s views but I also have come to temper his objectiveness with the view he''s more inclined to favor the more modern production boats. Everyone has their own reasons for liking particular boats. Our likes/dislikes, wants/needs just happen to differ
One thing he says is definately correct... it''s interesting Westsail owners love their boats while those that have seemingly never been on one or sailed one seem to consistently deride them. Personally I think it''s jealousy
They do have their umm.. ''pecularities'' but what boat doesn''t? Just depends on what compromises you''re willing to accomodate.
But to put the ''major'' complaints to bed:
They are not (necessarily) as slow as non-owners make them out to be. And they are certainly not ''dogs''. Dave King won the 1988 West Marine Pacific Cup race in his WS32 Saraband. They sail just fine in 8-10 kn winds. I achieve hull speed (a bit over 6 kn) in 10-15 kn winds easily.
I say ''necessarily'' as a proper sail plan with proper shaped sails is the key. I suspect this ''conventional wisdom'' came from long ago on boats with the original sails/plan. Advances have been developed over the years as to what a Westsail should carry. The ''guru'' of Westsails is Kern Ferguson (Kerns Sails). He is inarguably the best loft around for Westsail sails. His sails achieve a proper balance with excellent performance characteristics.
I will say I am probably the furthest from a performance/''racer mentality'' as one might get and I did not buy my Westsail to get somewhere fast anyway. Jeff-H makes a good point that in the long run performance/speed can affect the amount of stores, carrying capacity required but due to its roominess I''m able to store so much of everything it''s simply not an issue. I make ''landfall'' at my choice, not by necessity.
They aren''t hard to sail. I don''t have the excessive weatherhelm everyone seems to think is ''inherent'' in a Westsail (again, sail plan/shape/trim is the key). I singlehand mine all the time and I''m no expert or athelete by any means. Yes, they can be tricky to back up but what ''double ender'' isn''t? But I don''t find it a problem... I maneuver in tight marinas all the time. Just keep things slow and purposefull as you would any ''large'', heavy boat and you''re fine..
They aren''t ''miserable boats'' by a long shot. Albeit a bit wet overall I find it quite a comfortable sailing vessel. And living aboard is a pleasure... so much room below.
They aren''t any more expensive to own/maintain than any other 32'' boat (how/why should they be?). One caveat: It is said a Westsail is a wood boat with a glass hull. There will inevitably be more ''brightwork'' type maintenance than say a Pearson, Hunter, and other ''clorox bottle'' production boats of that genre.
I won''t say all, but I submit the vast majority of Westsail kit boats were put together by people that took care & pride in their work. I''ve seen some Westsails that blew away factory boats (I have a factory built boat). And factory built boats are known for their build quality. Bottom line it''s all in the survey anyway, factory or kit.
According to the ex-GM of Westsail, there were *very* few Westsail kits sold without ballast. Until about ''73 the ballast was iron punchings/concrete with lead/lead shot as an option. After 73''ish the iron/concrete was abandoned with lead/lead shot standard with 3 piece lead blocks the option. In any case the ballast was fully encapsulated in resin so unless there is significant damage even steel/concrete whould not be a problem. To make a point, what ballast material are current production boats predominently using these days?
They aren''t any more expensive to operate/maintain than any other similarly sized boat. Why/how would it be? What''s ''unique'' to a WS deck H/W, rigging etc. that makes it more expensive? Why would it require ''the sail inventory of a much larger boat''? I will say (thanks to its beam) it''s been said a WS32 is a ''40'' boat with a 32'' hull. And I really feel like I DO get to enjoy the cabin space/storage of a 40'' (while maintaining a 32 footer). And as far as marinas charging for the bowspit most I''ve run into (that require anything extra at all) just add a bit of a premium (not charging as if it were a 40 footer). I store my 10'' Zodiac just forward of the mast just like on lots of other boats (I''d store it aft if I dind''t have a propane locker/dodger in the way).
To be fair, as an owner, what do I NOT like about the Westsail? I wish it had a cockpit coaming. I wish it had a modified full keel. That''s about the only ''complaints'' I cna think of.
All that aside it is definately easy to get caught up in the classic lines & ''romance'' of a Westsail. The BEST advice I''ve seen put forward so far is ''Buy a boat for the use at hand rather than a possible future expedition''.
If despite the naysayers and you are still drawn to a Westsail drop by:
and talk to some owners.
An (obviously biased) Westsail 32 Owner
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As I have said before in this forum, there is no substitute for learning to sail in dinghys first. HOWEVER, for those who insist on ignoring my sage advice, there are zero cost options on keelboats. (wanna_sail had written, "Crewing may be an option but it is probably difficult to find someone who wants a husband & wife team that has almost no sailing experience.") Not the case, if you are willing to entertain the thought of RACING. (RACE? - but I can hardly sail!!) That''s OK, since in a race, for efficiency, all the jobs are divided up among a large crew; you just have to learn one job at a time. (Don''t worry, you will not be assigned to the foredeck right away!) Go to your local marina and find out what night(s) they do their "beer can" races. These are more casual, usually w/o spinnaker, races. As you walk among the boats preparing for the race you will see some boats with the crew all in matching livery; keep walking. You will soon come upon a skipper with a more motley crew and an imploring look, "Do you guys know how to sail?" (Don''t worry, all he will insist upon is a pulse.) The one question you should ask him is, "Are you a yeller?" (Its no fun to be yelled at and no way to learn.) Have your own PFDs (with a personal strobe attached if it is an evening race), foul weather gear, and proper non-marring shoes. He will provide the food and beer. Many cruising types scorn the "around-the-buoys" crowd. I think this is a big mistake. Racing is not only about wringing every last tenth of a knot out of a boat. It is also about boat-handling, which every cruiser should care very much about. And a racing venue lets you focus on one sub-set of sailing skills at a time. You will be a mainsheet trimmer one night and perhaps a genoa trimmer the next, then eventually you may be asked to helm the boat. It builds your sailing skills, costs you nothing, gets you exposed to many different boat designs, and increases your circle of sailing friends. What''s not to like?
Owen McCall
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Hi wanna_sail
No one made suggestions because you did not ask.
Bavaria 32
This is one of the boats that I think it would be a good boat to learn and to cruise comfortably in coastal waters.
It is inexpensive, easy, a lot of boat for the money, is fun to sail have good resale value and have an unusual lot of storage space, for a small boat.
It was nominated in 2003 one of the 10 best by Sailmagazine.
You can read the test:
You can have a look at the interior space here:
And it is a nice looking boat (my opinion).
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Thanks all for the replies, special thanks to Jeff & Jon yours were particularly helpful and objective.
I think I am a bit nostalgic about the Westsail because of so many web sites I have read that were linked from the original I stumbled upon. These people really appear to enjoy their boats.
I think you are correct that most people do like their choice of boat and justify it however possible. Heck, I justified owning a Pinto once and there are not too many IHATEMYBOAT.com web sites out there. Actually the URL is available I checked.
Surprisingly, no one made any suggestions on an actual boat or brand. I originally wanted to stay away from production boats but now I am thinking of a coastal cruiser that will hold its value so I can learn on it and see if it is the life style we want. I will probably charter a few times after the 101-104 course and have a captain along the first few times. Chartering seems to be a way to test a few boats and get it right. 35 ft is about the max I need.
Crewing may be an option but it is probably difficult to find someone who wants a husband & wife team that has almost no sailing experience. Being gainfully unemployed I may hang around yacht clubs and offer help as crew on day sailing excursions.
WESTSAIL 32 and similar
The original question comes from someone new to sailing, who wants a boat to learn on and coastal cruise, and ultimately if things work out go off-shore. I would hope even passionate defenders of Westsail 32''s would agree they are not the best boat to learn how to sail on, and are awkward as coastal cruisers (watch someone try to dock one in a tight marina).
Consider buying a used coastal cruiser and spend a year or two with it. A popular used boat won''t depreciate much. After that you will be far better equipped to assess whether a Westsail 32 is the right boat for you. Buy a boat for the use at hand rather than a possible future expedition.
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The Westsail 32 is the antithesis of a good boat upon which to learn to sail. They also make a very poor choice for a first boat. I would suggest that you start out with a boat that is more responsive. Also reasonable speed is more important to a cruiser than to a racer. A racer with a slow boat merely loses a race, but a reasonably well performing cruiser means being able to better chose when you will enter a port, or the amount of supplies that need to be carried on a long pasage, or a reduction in the amount of motoring time relative to sailing time that is required and so on. In any event this is a prior review on the Westsail 32 that I had written:
One thing that you can say about the Westsail 32''s, they are not all that easy to discuss in an objective way. They have a strong following amongst those that love them and they are the butt of jokes by people who don''t. There is so much hyperbole and derision surrounding these boats that it is hard to really tell where the truth starts and the emotion ends. Here''s how I see them.......
To begin to understand the Westsails you need to look at where they came from. In a general sense, the Westsail 32 pretty closely based on the Atkin''s designed ''Eric''. The ''Eric''s'' were a 1930''s era design. They were heavily constructed as wooden boats with gaff rigs. Atkins was a master of adapting various burdensome (able to carry large loads) working craft designs, into smaller lighter yacht forms. He was a master of modeling hulls so that these extremely heavy vessels (even for their day) sailed reasonably well as compared to a what you would have expected in that ear from a boat of this type. In the case of the ''Eric'', Atkins based his design on a Colin Archer sailing yacht that was based on the world famous Colin Archer Rescue Boats. The ''Eric''s'' carried enormous sail plans and really took some skill to sail. To stand up to that enormous sail plan, the ''Eric''s'' were heavily ballasted with external cast lead ballast. That combination gave them reasonable performance (for a heavy cruiser of their day) in a pretty wide range of conditions.
There are varying stories about how the Eric design was adapted to become the Westsail 32. William Crealock seems to be credited with drafting the adaptation. When the ''Eric''s'' were adapted to fiberglass there were a number of changes made. To begin with the fiberglass hulls actually weighed more than the wooden hull of the Eric. This was partially because the freeboard was raised and a high bulkhead included as a part of the fiberglass work. They were also not quite as strong and stiff as the wooden hulled ''Eric''s''. To help the boats float on their lines, the Westsails had less ballast than the ''Eric''s''. This made them comparatively tender and as a result their sail plans were reduced in size dramatically from the ''Eric''s'', which is not to say that they have a small sailplan, just that they have a small sail plan for thier drag.
This ballast and sail plan change had a dramatic affect on the sailing ability as well. Although the Westsails still carry huge sailplans compared to most 32 footers and or most boats with their waterline length, they are next to useless as sailboats in winds under 8 or so knots. They are also not as good as the ''Eric''s'' in heavier conditions either. This is because the Westsails still have equal hull drag through the water, but they have greater windage, a higher center of effort in their sail plans. To over come that resistance they need to carry essentially the same sail area as the ''Eric''s'' but since they have comparatively less ballast that means that they end up heeling more than the wooden Erics.
This ballasting issue is further complicated by the fact that the Westsails had internal ballast (which reduces the volume and depth of the ballast) and that many had lower density ballast in the form of iron set in concrete, which further raised the center of gravity pretty dramatically. Even further exacerbating this situation is the fact that while many of these boats were factory-built, a lot were sold as kits and some were sold without ballast. The kit built boats varied hugely in terms of ballasting, interior appointment, rig, deck hardware weights and postions.
They also varied quite widely in terms of layouts down below and the quality of workmansip being done. This variation resulted in a pretty wide range of sailing characteristics and a pretty wide variation in the amount of weight in gear and tankage that the boats can tolerate.
I know that there are strong proponents of this venerable design, but in my mind they only make sense in some narrow range of venues and for certain types of owners. While a bit of breeze brings these boats into life, even in 15 to 18 knots of wind they are slow compared to more modern designs. While they have a slow motion, they are real rollers, which personally I would rather accept a little quicker motion with less rolling. (When you talk about motion comfort there are two factors at play, the speed of accelleration at each end of the roll and the angle of the roll. In US navy studies of motion comfort, about half of the people in the studies preferred a slower roll through a wider angle, and the other half preferred a perhaps snappier motion through a narrower angle. If you fall in the slow roll camp then the Westsail would be a comfortable boat for you. If you fall in the ''can''t deal with large roll angles (like myself) then the Westsail probably is not an ideal boat for you.) If you are looking at a Westsail for coastal cruising in most US east coast venues (comparatively light winds) then a Westsail in probably not an ideal choice. BUT if you live in an area that has predominantly high winds or you plan a lot of offshore passages then the Westsail might make sense for some.
Westsails contain a lot of compromises that make them miserable boats as coastal cruisers and to a lesser extent as live aboards. They cockpit is cramped and uncomfortable. They lack good ventilation, being quite dark down below. It is hard to find a suitable way to store a reasonable dinghy. They are expensive to own, requiring the sail inventory of a much larger boat. With their bowsprit and boomkin in many if not most marinas end up paying for a 40 foot slip, while only having the room of a 32 footer. You also end up paying for bottom paint and deck hardware for a much larger boat than you actually get the advantage of owning. These are exhausting boats to sail with high helm loads in a breeze (which can be offset by greatly reducing sail, which is fine if you do not have to claw off of a leeshore or don''t mind the very leisurely pace that results.) They also have anachronistic compromises that make them less than ideal for offshore work. For example in this day and age, going offshore with a headsail tacked at the end of a bowsprit makes no sense at all. There is a good reason that bowsprits were known as ''widowmakers'' during the era of working sailing craft.
Lastly, no matter how you look at it, the Westsails are slow by any objective standard. Their design is based on thinking that is well over a hundred years old. While the ocean has changed little in 100 years, our understanding of what makes a boat safe, fast, durable and comfortable has changed dramatically in the past 20 years. Even if the generally historic ideas of reflected in the design of the Westsail appeal to you, there are other designs, similarly priced, that offer a lot better sailing performance, ease of handling, seakindliness and equal seaworthiness.
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"I think the W32 is all image and little boat... the boat is a dog."
Read that story sailingfool....
That boat is not fast but it looks very seaworthy to me...and it''s only a 32ft.
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During his E3 keynote, id Software co-founder and lead programmer John Carmack showed off the first prototype of a new virtual reality headset they intend to sell soon for $500 apiece.
The headset blocks all lights from the environment and displays its video output through two small screens hosted inside the goggles.
Carmack made a live demonstration of using the new kit with Doom 3. In the demo, Carmack used a standard controller to move and shoot while using the kit's head tracker to look around.
The virtual reality kit is named "Rift." It is designed by Palmer Luckey who plans to launch a Kickstarter project to produce and distribute the open-source kit for other developers to tinker with soon.
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I want this...now!
Here's my $$$. I'll even pay you for the clunky prototype. I can't tell you how long I've waited for something like this. The Sony device was primarily designed for playing 3D movies and I was not that impressed while wearing them and playing GT5 at a demo at the Sony Store. The game turns where I'm looking? Wow! I want this...now!
I swear Carmack lives on
We will never make progress.
Oh really
In case you haven't noticed: Megagames has been through a site update, and the reason they are removing posts, is because they are trying to cut out all the riff-raff; Trolling, abuse, completely off topic subjects have been a serious plague here in the past.
Hope that answers your question.
"Captcha" "Hard Cheese." kind of fitting given the circumstance.
Even if its based on the
You might be right
Sooo basically $500 just to
Also 2 sepperate screens,
Not necessarily, the 2
Not necessarily, the 2 screens will only add depth if the images on each are slightly different. Just like you see slightly different images when you close one eye and keep one open, then swap. Doing that is mostly up to game devs, all the hardware needs to do is provide independent access to both screens. What that means for gamers is you'll only get half of your gpus performance because it has to render 2 slightly different frames for a scene while for non 3d displays it only has to render 1.
Americans/Canadians are fat cuz of our lush living styles...
Africa is starving cuz they ****** there natural resources up and overpopulated horrible places near a friggen desert...
and any other country is so far in debt they cant afford to sit around and do **** all...
most countries dont have welfare (99% of welfare are fat pieces of lazy ****)
there are TONS of reasons why other countries arent *fat/lush* its cuz they lack the fucken fundamentals and resources to do it.. cuz if they could.. they would...
You sir, are 100 percent
I'm not from america/canada and we barely have any fat people at all, our food is not "chemically enhanced", what we grow is what we eat and sell there are no fast food places no welfare, what they learn here in 10th grade i learn that at the end of 2nd grade. (not defending) they are only 33% desert, and yes america ****** in other peoples pots allot, if they left them alone we would not have the problem in the first place. Welfare screws things up give them free money and they will never want to work. People are stupid because they are too lenient then they ask them self why.
Virtual boy all over again
How does it make you feel,
People Who Call Themselves
What progress? Is having thousands of people rot their brains by playing games such as Angry Birds on their smart phones, something you would call progress? Or may be, having our phones capable of login to facebook and/or tweeter so we can post senseless, pointless and moronic updates of how we feel or what we are currently doing ("I'm taking a shower") so other idiots can spend their time looking at them, your so called progress? Have you ever wondered why the Chinese government wont allow this **** in their country? It is because China (whether you like it or not) it's on a roll and it is not slowing down, as worlds second largest economy (source: ****://www.therichest.org/world/worlds-largest-economies/) they are not going to destroy their economical growth by allowing its people to waste time on facebook and not be productive, In fact the Chinese are smart enough to see that this over hyped facebook garbage is in fact counterproductive, and thus they don't want it. Nothing of value was ever said on facebook. Facebook primary function is to legally get your personal information and preferences, so a profile can be created only to be sold for cash to advertising agencies so they can tell what to buy from china so so you can contribute to their economic growth


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After Arsenal's 2-2 draw with West Brom on Saturday, we asked fans to share their thoughts on the game via Twitter.
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@GunnerGirlLauz - Let's hope we can get back to winning ways and keep up the mental strength that brought us two goals on Saturday.
@apopatia - We started off slowly but showed amazing character that will help us win the Premier League.
@Mr_Edux2 - Saturday was a great test of our mental strength and we showed that we've moved on from our recent disappointments.
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@GBV1989 - We need to tighten up defensively if we are to win the Premier League.
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In Barrett's esophagus, tissue in the tube connecting your mouth and stomach (esophagus) is replaced by tissue similar to the intestinal lining.
Barrett's esophagus is most often diagnosed in people who have long-term gastroesophageal reflux disease (GERD) — a chronic regurgitation of acid from the stomach into the lower esophagus. Only a small percentage of people with GERD will develop Barrett's esophagus.
Barrett's esophagus is associated with an increased risk of developing esophageal cancer. Although the risk is small, it's important to have regular checkups for precancerous cells. If precancerous cells are discovered, they can be treated to prevent esophageal cancer.
The tissue changes that characterize Barrett's esophagus cause no symptoms. The signs and symptoms that you experience are generally due to GERD and may include:
Many people with Barrett's esophagus have no signs or symptoms.
If you've had trouble with heartburn and acid reflux for more than five years, ask your doctor about your risk of Barrett's esophagus.
Seek immediate help if you:
The exact cause of Barrett's esophagus isn't known. Most people with Barrett's esophagus have long-standing GERD. In GERD, stomach contents wash back into the esophagus, damaging esophagus tissue. As the esophagus tries to heal itself, the cells can change to the type of cells found in Barrett's esophagus.
However, some people diagnosed with Barrett's esophagus have never experienced heartburn or acid reflux. It's not clear what causes Barrett's esophagus in these people.
Factors that increase your risk of Barrett's esophagus include:
People with Barrett's esophagus have an increased risk of esophageal cancer. The risk is small, especially in people whose lab tests show no precancerous changes (dysplasia) in their esophagus cells. Most people with Barrett's esophagus will never develop esophageal cancer.
Barrett's esophagus is most often diagnosed in people with GERD who are being examined for GERD complications. If your doctor discovers Barrett's esophagus on an endoscopy exam, you may be referred to a doctor who treats digestive diseases (gastroenterologist).
In addition to the questions that you've prepared to ask your doctor, don't hesitate to ask other questions during your appointment.
Your doctor is likely to ask you a number of questions. Being ready to answer them may make time to go over points you want to spend more time on. You may be asked:
Endoscopy is generally used to determine if you have Barrett's esophagus.
A lighted tube with a camera at the end (endoscope) is passed down your throat to check for signs of changing esophagus tissue. Normal esophagus tissue appears pale and glossy. In Barrett's esophagus, the tissue appears red and velvety.
Your doctor is likely to remove a small tissue sample (biopsy). The biopsy can be examined to determine the degree of tissue change.
A doctor who specializes in examining tissue in a laboratory (pathologist) determines the degree of dysplasia in your esophagus cells. Your tissue may be classified as:
Treatment for Barrett's esophagus depends on the degree of dysplasia found in your esophagus cells and your overall health.
Your doctor will likely recommend:
High-grade dysplasia is thought to be a precursor to esophageal cancer. For this reason, your doctor may recommend:
If you have treatment other than surgery to remove your esophagus, your doctor is likely to recommend medication to reduce acid and help your esophagus heal.
Lifestyle changes can ease symptoms of GERD, which may underlie Barrett's esophagus. Consider:
If you've been diagnosed with Barrett's esophagus, you may worry about your risk of esophageal cancer. The risk of developing cancer is very small. If you experience anxiety, consider:
Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minn., ranks No. 1 for digestive disorders in the U.S. News & World Report Best Hospitals rankings. Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale, Ariz., and Mayo Clinic in Jacksonville, Fla., are ranked among the Best Hospitals for digestive disorders by U.S. News & World Report. Mayo Clinic also ranks among the Best Children's Hospitals for digestive disorders.
At Mayo Clinic, specialists in the Esophageal Clinic recommend screening for Barrett's esophagus if you are:
Mayo specialists use advanced imaging technology, which studies have shown can detect dysplasia more accurately than can standard endoscopy.
Mayo Clinic specialists have experience in a range of nonsurgical treatments for Barrett's esophagus. If you need surgery, Mayo specialists generally use a minimally invasive approach.
Mayo specialists are also studying the use of genetic information to determine which treatments are likely to offer the best results for people with Barrett's esophagus.
Mayo Clinic works with hundreds of insurance companies and is an in-network provider for millions of people. In most cases, Mayo Clinic doesn't require a physician referral. Some insurers require referrals or may have additional requirements for certain medical care. All appointments are prioritized on the basis of medical need.
Specialists in gastroenterology and hepatology and colon and rectal surgery at Mayo Clinic in Arizona diagnose and treat adults with Barrett's esophagus.
For appointments or more information, call the Central Appointment Office at 800-446-2279 (toll-free) 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. Mountain Standard Time, Monday through Friday or complete an online appointment request form.
Specialists in gastroenterology and hepatology and colon and rectal surgery at Mayo Clinic in Florida diagnose and treat adults with Barrett's esophagus.
For appointments or more information, call the Central Appointment Office at 904-953-0853 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. Eastern time, Monday through Friday or complete an online appointment request form.
Specialists in gastroenterology and hepatology and colon and rectal surgery at Mayo Clinic in Minnesota diagnose and treat adults with Barrett's esophagus.
For appointments or more information, call the Central Appointment Office at 507-538-3270 7 a.m. to 6 p.m. Central time, Monday through Friday or complete an online appointment request form.
See information on patient services at the three Mayo Clinic locations, including transportation options and lodging.
Mayo Clinic researchers are working to improve diagnosis and treatment of Barrett's esophagus. Specific efforts involve novel imaging techniques to detect early cancer changes in Barrett's esophagus, advanced endoscopy to treat Barrett's esophagus and early cancers, medications that can decrease cancer risk, and genetic factors that may be related to Barrett's esophagus.
The Mayo Clinic Esophageal Adenocarcinoma and Barrett's Esophagus Registry compiles information from people receiving care at Mayo. Researchers hope this information can help them gain a greater understanding of the genetic basis of Barrett's esophagus and develop a genetic blood test that can easily screen for the disease.
Read more about research in the Barrett's Esophagus Laboratory and Barrett's Esophagus and Esophageal Cancer Laboratory.
See a list of publications by Mayo Clinic doctors on Barrett's esophagus on PubMed, a service of the National Library of Medicine.
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- Landing page optimization
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An Introduction to Google AdWords Ad Extensions
In November, Google rolled out new ad formats, now known as Google Adwords ad extensions, just in time for the big holiday push known as Cyber Monday. Those in the know and or those who read the Official Google Blog will remember a post detailing the release of these new ad formats. In the months since this release, Google has expanded the ability to utilize these formats to every AdWords advertiser who is willing to jump through the hoops.
These new extensions that you can add to your Google AdWords campaigns include:
1.) SiteLinks
2.) Product Extensions
3.) Click to Call
4.) Map Extensions
Implementing Google Adwords Ad Extensions
For the extensions to appear, you must enable each extension at the campaign level. These are clearly marked as "Ad extensions". Once each format is enabled, you must fill out the required information or link the corresponding Google Account, such as your Local Business Center or Merchant Account.
-SiteLinks: Add up to 10 extra links with 35 characters of text.
-Product Extensions: You must link Google Merchant (formerly Google Base) with Google AdWords. Read this guide to linking your accounts.
-Click to Call: Your phone number (duh).
-Map Extensions: Must link your Local Business Center with AdWords.
Keep in mind these extensions do not get served every time time. For example, the SiteLinks extension will only be served when your ad 'meets certain criteria', or being number 1 with a high quality score (see our post Quality Score and You).
The other extensions seem be served at Google's discretion, and feature a 'plus box' as AdWords reporting calls it. This plus box must be expanded for the non-SiteLinks extensions to show.
Google AdWords Ad Extensions Tips, Tricks and Warnings:
1.) Right now, there is very little oversight when it comes to enforcing the terms of service requirements (shhh). For example, in the Merchant Center, Google states your landing page must have a fixed price listed and the user must be able to buy from the website. Don't let that silly little detail deter you. This is not true, or no one seems to be checking, so 'if you ain't cheatin', you ain't tryin''. Just know that this extension could disappear without warning when Google gets around to enforcing their own policies.
2.) The SiteLinks copy also appears to have very little editorial oversight. So be sure to make any claims you and or your client feel comfortable making. Just make sure you adhere to the FTC's Truth In Advertising Standards. Again, know that you may have to rewrite some of these in the future.
3.) Google already has video ad extensions. It is just not open to all AdWords advertisers, but one can imagine that soon you will have the capability to insert a product demo, testimonial or even a short tv-like spot.
4.) Remember you have to manage your feeds in the Merchant Center. This requires a spreadsheet being manually uploaded monthly, or an xml feed.
5.) Remember to test. These ad extensions may only serve to drive up clicks. If those clicks don't convert or they bounce, you may be wasting money. Just because it's new doesn't mean it's better.
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2) are too crazy to care
It's not that bad either, 15 seconds for a tag, then just boot it outta there. It's nice hitting all the cars parked in a station though, because your only there for a few minutes then your gone.


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Muscoco Mountain Climber's Log
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|Sunny, beautiful views.
Date Climbed: Aug 29, 2016
|Nice 4 mile round trip. Great day for it. Sunny, clear view all around. On the way home, it began hailing. Timing is everything.
This trail is good for a short trip, an hour and a half will do at a moderate pace.
|Posted Aug 29, 2016 3:54 pm
|Climbing Jack
|Nice and Quick
|Great workout close to the city.
|Posted Sep 7, 2014 4:41 pm
|Cutler +
Date Climbed: Jul 12, 2014
|Started to do Cutler, then the weather held up long enough to do Muscoco first, then Cutler on the way down.
|Posted Jul 28, 2014 11:43 pm
|Quick and Easy After-Work Hike
Date Climbed: Mar 29, 2013
|Nice after work hike. Almost missed the highpoint with all the trees and bumps on the near level summit area.
|Posted Mar 30, 2013 12:43 am
|That's Twice
Date Climbed: Aug 29, 2011
|Had to move quick to beat out storm, but still a nice mountain.
|Posted Sep 13, 2011 10:38 am
|Icy Climb
Date Climbed: Jan 20, 2011
|Very icy near the bottom but pretty stable the rest of the way to the top. Really lovely places to sit on the summit also. :)
|Posted Jan 27, 2011 7:39 pm
|2nd time
Date Climbed: Jan 2, 2011
|Trip number 2 up Muscoco. The views from the summit are incredible. Went with yourhorsedoctor and her parents.
|Posted Jan 4, 2011 3:07 pm
|Second time up for us, first summit for the parents!
Date Climbed: Dec 26, 2010
|Took my parents for their first "adventure" - now they are hooked!
|Posted Jan 2, 2011 1:17 pm
|Jeremy Hakes
Date Climbed: Sep 16, 2008
|Nice solitude away from Cutler.
|Posted Jan 1, 2011 6:39 pm
Date Climbed: Sep 17, 2010
|Took a friend up Muscoco, 5th time up there and always a fun little hike. Explored the airy south summit overlooking 7 Falls.
|Posted Dec 7, 2010 5:37 pm
|once more
Date Climbed: Jul 24, 2010
|Weather is making the high country a trial. Decided to run a local peak with Cimarron for a quick morning outing.
|Posted Jul 24, 2010 1:19 pm
|Windy day
Date Climbed: May 29, 2010
|Climbed up from Mt.Cutler trailhead, it was super windy on top so I didn't linger for very long time
|Posted May 29, 2010 6:56 pm
|Nice alternative to Cutler.
|Posted Nov 23, 2009 2:49 pm
|Beautiful day
Date Climbed: Nov 8, 2009
|Did the twofer with a couple of friends that hadn't been up either Cutler or Muscoco.
|Posted Nov 9, 2009 10:17 pm
|I did it...
Date Climbed: Oct 27, 2009
|Just knocked it out. Some great areas of scramble with a little exposure. Not too bad...
|Posted Oct 28, 2009 12:26 am
|Great spring day!
|Standard route to summit
|Posted Jun 8, 2009 10:38 pm
|Back into hiking season...
Date Climbed: Apr 22, 2009
|Finally put away the skis and am back on the hiking trail! Summited late in the day after a day off of work- was with Hokiejim and Shknbake. Great views of the Springs!
|Posted May 10, 2009 1:20 am
|visit the south summit
Date Climbed: Apr 22, 2009
|Finally had enough time to visit the south summit this time. It's a short traverse with some fine scrambling if you're OK with exposure, probably class 3+. Muscoco is a fine after work hike.
|Posted Apr 23, 2009 3:06 pm
Date Climbed: Apr 22, 2009
|Nice after-worker from the Mt Cutler TH, beautiful clear April evening
|Posted Apr 23, 2009 2:28 pm
|Mt Cutler TH
Date Climbed: Jan 26, 2008
|My wife and I climbed this one while staying at the Cliffhouse in Manitou Springs. The snow was icy in places but it was well worth the effort. And we had the summit to ourselves.
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Die59 GMV...
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nice battle going whit die on this one his letters are sick
I voted keep, love that complexity, I feel the rendering.
This is probably the most worthwhile sketch battle in years
Is it the same Keep Six as the one from Van. If it is, those Stompdown videos aren't doing you justice. Evey single image you put here gives me the itch to sketch.
DDDaaaiiiimmm man, both are awesome, Word for K6
both of thos are awsome i wish i could do wildstyle but im not that good.
TFB!-terminate fake bombers,also top flight bombers.
AlL DaY HaRtFoRd,CT!!
Paint a peice like that.
I dont write Broke an i dont see tha point of doing a piece that says broke
Supply the paint. And some hooker entertainment.
I think we might be onto something here now..hookers an paint...what could possibly go right
I'd like to see a keep6/Die59 production, or even the two of them in a crew. . . dooope
voting for Dier...although both were very dope entries...I chose Dier because of flow, efficiency. keeps was dope but the darkness of the 3D was bugging me because it was almost taking away from the letters and didn't seem to quite fit (my opinion obviously)...sharpnes and symmetry were dope though.
In the beginning, God created thug mansion and the earth
(Genesis 1:1)
Because I came down from thug mansion, not to do my own will but the will of him that sent me. (John 6:38)
FUCK!!! damn both those pieces are fuckin murderous. had to go with keepsix just cause of the details and the shading and the overall sickness, but die wasnt far behind. both you guys deserve massive props!!!
I'm worse than all 7 deadly sins!
Cause i'll kill ya off wit tha speed of hurricane force winds!
KEEPER!!! and that DIE is off the freakin chain as well. Peace to both yall.
I see a hint of an old DREAM piece in DIEs sketch. Believe me that is not a bad thing.
Anyway that's just me.