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|anyone here run the valvoline max life atf in a chrysler A-518 or 46re transmission? i have been pondering the idea of using it in my A-518, heard some good things about it.
well the shop that re-built the transmission told me they put atf+3 in it, and it does shift rathly smoothly more then i'd like, he told me they would have put +4 in it but they dont like to run a synthetic untill the transmission has at least 1000 miles on it.
The owner told me to flush all the fluid out after 1000 miles and put a new filter on it, and right now my transmission has roughly 600 miles like 560 sum miles, unfortunetly i can not afford well i can afford the shift kit now, but i will not be able to afford to have it installed untill this spring when i get my income taxes back, and by then my transmission will have well over 1000 miles on it wich is when im spos to flush all the fluid out and put new fluid and filter on it.
So i was wanting to pick a fluid now and just stick with it for the rest of the transmissions life like the owner suggested, he said its better to stick with one type of fluid instead of switching around from different types of fluid.
I know the dexronVI is a gm fluid, but since the A-518 got dexronIII put in it as factory fill from 89-93 it should be safe to use because it says it can work anything that calls for dexronIII. I have just been told by old time transmission guys that type f is the best atf to run in a torque flight transmission, type f is not as updated as dexronVI therefore it would need to be changed more often then dexronVI but it supposidly firms up shifting and keeps a torque flight running cooler then any other fluid, i do not have a lock up torque converter so i do not need too many friction modifyers im told? i dont know its just a hard descsion between type f and dexronVI, i have also heard never to run a synthetic in a torque flight? my old man ran type f in all his 727s but he is no longer around to ask about running type f in the A-518 but i have heard alot of people says its ok and accually better for it then any other fluid if it does not have a lock up converter.
I will be having a shift kit installed as soon as i possibly can. I wish i could have a lab rat A-518 transmission to run different fluids thru and see what fluid it performs the best with, thats why i ask these questions hoping to find somone who has ran type f and dexronVI in the chrysler A-518 so i can ask them wich one performed better....
|Personally I'd use the cheap DexIII untill after the Shift Kit & Flush was done, then use the DexVI or if you plan on regular Trans fluid changes continue with DexIII or Type-F. The Shift Kit should firm & shorten up the shifts where Type-F may not be needed.
ya thats impressive compared to dexronIII, with that being said would you consider it a good fluid to run the chrysler A-518 transmission?
The canadian builder i was talking too told me that atf+3 didnt come out untill 1994-1995 and said that the main reason they came out with atf+3 was to help the clutches in the newer lock up converters when i say newer i mean 1994 and up. He said that dexronIII didnt have the heat handling ability to keep them lock up converters happy. He said prior to 1994 chrysler used dexronIII on all there transmissions even the A-500s and A-518s wich were chryslers first overdrive transmission for pick up trucks in they first introduced it in 1989 and used it untill 1993, and in 1994 is when they modified the transmissions a bit more with the electronically controlled 46re with the lock up converters that needed atf+3, he said but from 1989-1993 dodge used dexronIII for factory fill in the A-518 in diesels and gas and some gas trucks came with a lock up converter but my 1991 did not, therefore he said dexronIII would be perfectly fine for my transmission, he said all the horror stories you hear about transmissions burning up do to not running +3 or +4 never came into effect untill 1994 when they introduced the 46re wich is a bit more electronically controlled then the A-518s used from 89-93 and also has a totally different lock up converter, he said if it was a 94 or newer i would tell you to run +3 or +4 but since its the 89-93 A-518 with just the electronic overdrive and with a non lock up converter he said i have to reccomend dexronVI.
He told me that dexronVI is compatible to use in any transmission that calls for dexronIII and he said that in 1991 dodge was using dexronIII for factory fill in the A-518 transmission, he also said i could use type f if i wanted too but he feels dexronVI is a better fluid.
what do you guys think about using dexronVI? wich would be the better choice the dexronIII or dexronVI or type f? those are the 3 fluids i am trying to decide between, i know type f allows for firmer shifts and is known to handle heat better and its alot cheaper then dexronVi, but on the other hand the dexronVI can handle heat just as well if not better and it lasts longer and most likely protects better? i just wonder how it would shift with the dexronVI? i imagine it would shift a little smoother with dexronVI compared to type f but if it protects that well maybe its worth sacraficing the softer shifts? I have just been told all my life but my old man that soft smooth shifts bring heat and wear the transmission out faster then firm aggressive type shifts? I plan on getting a trans go shift kit installed in it this spring when i get my income taxes back, just trying to decide on a fluid, the transmission only has 500 miles on it and in another 500 miles the builder told me to pick a fluid and flush all the fluid out of it and change the filter and whatever fluid i decide on he told me to stick with that fluid for the rest of the transmissions life and service the filter every 25 thousand miles.
So im trying to decide on dexronIII or dexronVI or type f? wich one would be the smarter choice to make.
The Dex-VI is synthetic like the ATF+4, that's why it's so pricey. It's also very good fluid.
Dexron VI vs Dexron III
The following chart represents the improvements over Dexron III.
Extended Fill Range = 100,000 miles Normal Use.
Change Interval = 50,000 miles Severe Use.
Clutch Friction Stability = Improved 100%
Clutch Durability = Improved 120%
Oil Film = Increased 20%
Fluid Oxidation = Improved 100%
Shear Stability = Improved 200%
Foam / Aeration = Improved 150%
well this finally got resolved.... the transmission shop called me back 3 days later and told me that they had to order me a new torque converter i knew there was something wrong with it, and the owner tries telling me its my rear axle making the noise and my engine missing causing the vibration??? what a joke i think they were hust trying to blame it on whatever else they could, and they told me the torque converter was bad and thats what was causing the vibration and the sounds.
I was talking to a canadian transmission builder and he told me that i should run the new dexronVI atf in my A-518 transmission? He says he puts dexronVI in the A-500 an 518s and the 47rhs and 46res whenever he re-builds any of them. Has anyone else heard of running dexronVI in these types of transmissions? he told me it has the best flow rate during low and high temps and that it has the best protecting ability? I looked at some in my local parts store and the dexronVI is kinda pricey and it also feels very thin in the bottle, you shake a bottle of dexronVI and it feels like water in there?
He said it is backwords compatible to dexronII and dexronIII and he told me that in 1991 DexronIII would have been factory fill in the A-518 transmission thats in my truck?, any thoughts on that? or would type f be a better choice then dexronVI?
the owner of the transmission shop has still not called me back, he said late tuesday that afternoon that the next day he'd pull it up on a rack and check it out and call me back and let me know what he thinks, here it is thursday night and still have not heard from him..... I drove by there shop tonight to see if my truck was in there shop or in the parking lot and it was in the parking lot.
I'm going to call him tommarrow and see whats going on, if he is still trying to claim its not the transmission, im going to say ok put the transfer case in nuetral and put the transmission in drive and or reverse and you will hear the same whining noise im taslking about, it cant be the rear axle making the noise when its sitting at a stand still lol.
Im also going to say i brought my truck to your shop in the first place because i was told you were the best transmission shop in town, and the you backed up your work, if i was miss informed you can give me my money back for the re-build and i will take it to somone who will fix it and not give me the run around. what do you guys think? is that what i should say? because im done beating around the bush with these guys its time to be asertive now.
well its 2 p.m and the owner has not called me back today so im assuming that means he has not touched it yet or he's already got it torn apart and is working on it...
If the owner calls me and says its anything but the transmission then im going to tell him that i'd like to take it to another shop and get a second opinion.
nobody has any advie for me on how to deal with this transmission shop? come on somone has to have some ideas, the owner was trying to blame it on everything else but the transmission, and when i told him i think him and his techs are wrong he said well i have a few minutes so ill go out there and check out and call you back.
He calls me back twenty minutes later and says ya there is something going on but i think its your engine? and i said how could the engine cause the torque converter to whine? i felt like saying well i think its the transmission.
All he said was ill pull it up on a rack tommarrow and check it out and ill call you and let you know what i think is going on. i know its the transmission and nothing else and if he tries telling me its not im going to freak out, or if he tells me i have to pay for any of it im going to freak out because i paid for my re-build with cash and he gave me a 2 year warranty so they have to fix it, they messed up upon installing it so they can live with there mistake and fix it right this time.
well let me rant about my expierence today....
I brough my truck to the shp that re-built my transmission yesterday afternoon, the owner said he would take a look at it and call me back later in the afternoon and tell me what he thinks, well he never called yesterday....
He called me today at 1 in the afternoon and i said so whats the verdrict? he said my guys looked at it and said they couldnt find anything wrong with the transmission, i said REALLY?!?!?! I said so whats going on with it, he said the reason its vibrating in park and nuetral is cause your engine is not firing on all 8 cylinders, i said well it has brand new plugs, brand new plug wires, brand new cap and rotor i said maybe i have the firing order off but i dont think so...
I said well whats causing the wind up whining noise, he said its your rear end, i said relly? well how come when i hear it its coming from the front of the truck not the back? he said i dont know but your rear end must be getting ready to go out.
I said i really dont think soo. i just had the cover off that rear end a couple months ago and there was hardly any shavings on the magnet and there was no shavings or metal debree in the gear oil because i filtered it looking for metal debree, i said the oil looked pretty bad and old but i no metal debree in the oil and very little on the magnet, and i said i refilled it with synthetic gear oil too, did the exact same thing to the front axle popped cover off and couldnt find any metal debree in the front axles oil ether.
So after i told him that he says well i have a few minutes right now so i'll go out there and look it over real good and call you back, i said ok.
!5 minutes later he calls me back and he says im going to keep it for the night and tommarrow im going to pull it up on a rack and take a closer look, he said there is deffantly something going on but i think its your engine and whatever it is could burn up the transmission.
Let me ask this, what could possibly be going on with my engine to burn up the transmission? i think he knows there is something wrong with my transmission and is trying to blame it on the engine so that he can charge me for fixing it. The noises this is making is deffantly coming from the transmission im 99 percent sure, and none of the ever happened untill i changed the bottom transmission mounts, another thing that makes me think its the transmission. i lifted the transmisssion and transfer case up together just high enough to get the old transmission mounts out and the new mounts inn and ever since i did that is when this vibration and whine noise came about? so i have asked this before and did not get an answer, what could have happened from changing the bottom mounts on that transmission to bring about this problem? is it possible while i lifted up on the trans that it threw the converter off course? could i have damaged a shaft of some kind? or bent a bushing or threw out a bearing or what?
I despise automatic trannys with a passion.
Have only had one car with an AT make it birth to death without a trans issue.
Recently (about 2 years) had the trans in my Windstar rebuilt.
Took it in to fix a random and irritating downshift to second gear from cruise.
(quite interesting to be tooling along at 70 and just have the trans drop into 2nd gear for no reason.) Did not want to shift out of second at all -- at any speed.
After the tranny guy saying it needs a total rebuild (and almost $3000) the silly van started doing the same thing within a week.
After the tranny guy had to pay for a very long tow, he then found the cause of the original problem.
Seems an expensive electrical switch was shorting out causing the car to shift into second and stay there.
He then told me his trans warrantees did not cover electrical items.
This did not go over too well with me at all----and I let him know it.
Told him I brought the car in to FIX the 2nd gear issue
Rebuild trans was at his suggestion.
I had no intention of paying an additional $400 over the cost of the rebuild to repair what I took it in for in the first place.
He bi***ed a bit about paying for the 100 mile tow and the pricey switch, but it really was not my problem.
Now about 50,000 miles later------trans being stupid again.
Cannot decide if it wants to shift into 1st or stay in second at slowdowns without stopping.
When it decides finally that it wants to be in 1st---it shifts real hard.
Just ranting here---have no constructive input at all on your issue.
(other than tossing that AT and using a manual trans )
to be more detailed, when i walked in the door of the transmission shop the owner was on the phone and when he got off the phone he said whats up? i said that transmission is having problems of some sort, he said whats it doing? i said everytime i put it in gear and go to take off the converter is making a wind up noise or whine noise? does it all gears even reverse, and i said it is always vibrating the dash and the steering wheel and when im going down the freeway at 75 miles an hour is shking and vibrating so bad it feels like the doors are going to fall off, and he said well can you leave it with me for awhile so i can take a look at it? and i said yup and handed him the key, i said i been talking to a few people and they all seem to think that the torque converter is ether side loading or its the wrong converter or the converter was not clocked right, and he said its the right converter, and i said well i dont know all i know is the torque converter is making a ton of noise and i have a vibration.
He said i will take a look at it here in a couple hours and ill call you and let you know what i think it is, and i said ok and left. Now if he tries telling me that its not the transmission im going to laugh and say then why is the torque converter making noises whining noises? and if he says its going to cost me anything im going to say well it was my understanding that this transmission came with a 2 year warranty and my recipt says the same thing, and ill say so if you dont wanna stand by your warranty on a re-build that does not even have a thousand miles on it yet, then you can give me my money back and ill take it to somone who will fix it, this is if he gives me any crap or says i have to pay for anything? not saying he will, he may jump right on it and be more then happy to fix it for free idk im just preparing for worst case senario.
well i dropped my truck off at the transmission shop this afternoon, and i explained to the owner what was going on and he said he'd take a look at it later on in the afternoon and call me back and tell me what he thinks it is.
I felt like saying well whatever it is im not paying for it cause its under warranty, he never did call me back this afternoon so im guessing he didnt have time to look at it, but when he calls me back and tells me what he thinks it is ill get back on here and let you guys know what he says.
I still need an answer to my question about running type f atf in this transmission? its a non lock up converter 2 pin connection, A-518.
I'm hoping i can run type f in it because it helps firm up shifting and its half the price that atf+4 is. thanks guys for all your words of wisdom.
it can not be any of the driveshafts because the vibration is occuring at stand still as well, when i fire the truck up it starts vibrating right at start up and i can feel it pulsating thru the seat and steering wheel and the dash, its a womp womp womp womp womp just a consistent vibration that gets worse when you apply some gas to it. when you apply gas to it, ity feels like the doors are going to fall off.
Im taking it to the transmission shop who re-built the transmission on monday and im telling them to figure it out and fix it, its under a 2 year warranty and i paid in full with cash. so the least they can do is take the transmission out make sure the torque converter is clocked right and make sure its the right converter and make sure the flexplate is correct and whatever else is in there that they can check cause something is going on, im getting a whine type noise form the converter while driving, and when i crawl under it while its in park at an idle and watch the torque converter i think i can very fadly hear the same type of noise but that might just be my mind thinking im hearing that noise, but i can deffanitly hear it when i put it in gear and start to take off from a stand still.
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udontease wrote:Want this for my brother because 1)looks like his dumb cat 2)he likes baking.
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Re: The Long Hunt
Oh, how I wish this would print! I want one and would like to give some for Christmas presents!
Re: Another Week Lost v2
Why does it seems I've been here before?
Re: Tele Scope
I said it once, and I repeat myself, "Nicely Done"
Re: Cake 101
Every time I see this shirt, my tummy growls.
yellowflower wrote:This is the other one at the top of my wishlist, no matter which way the music notes are facing.
Thanks so much
Re: MASTER?
I hope this gets picked this time.
Re: Cute Has A Flavor
I was really sad when this one didn't print last time, so I hope it will this time! I'm planning on getting one. =)
Why is there a Duck in the chain of platypi?
Re: pop the top muffin machine
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Re: Fun With Fibonacci
The only shirt I have wanted from woot in a LONG time.
Re: Australian Army Knife
This needs to exist. Not just the shirt, the actual knife!
Re: Forest Pyramids
Baffled how this doesn't have more votes O_o
Re: Caged
Still adore this. The colours are simply lovely.
Re: hipsterpotamus!
Still one of the best entries I've seen in quite a while. I'll go ahead and start the pleas for an EC here + now ...
Re: Merino
Unfortunately this one will once again probably fall into the "too good for Woot" category. Still love the cross-hatching/texture/detail here.
Re: Nerd Hive
Still find myself drawn to this one. The longer I look, the more I like it.
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I am fast becoming a real fan of your stuff, Kinzoku. This is no exception.
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Got to figure out, which Walmazan design to vote for, Oh well, I guess I can vote for all of them! This is amazing, good luck.
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I adore this, hope it prints, good luck.
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I couldn't figure out why this didn't do better the first time, hilarious idea. GMV again.
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A ramyb design without a cute animal? Why don't we see any of these anymore? This is fantastic!!
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Thank you Omar , gracias! (o;
mcohn16 wrote:You should have overloaded the cook() function! That's so C ;)
Yeah if you followed the original when it was sub'd I didn't want to confuse people with object overloading but it is what it is...
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intellegentvirtue wrote:Why is there a Duck in the chain of platypi?
There is also a beaver. Because everyone knows that duck + beaver = platypus.
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Re: Sailing Darwin awards
Originally Posted by MobiusALilBitTwisted View Post
Cant, not all that stay aboard die, and you must DIE to get said award. Cheers
Re: Sailing Darwin awards
Had I not been there, the lines holding my boat to the piers would have at first been ok, because there were two blowout tides followed by two tides with a surge of 3 feet. In addition the wind shift 270 degrees in the course of the 42 hours. I was able to prevent chafing on three of my 14 lines by shifting the chafe gaurds i was using. The range on my lines was as much as 5 ft through the chocks and my material is only 2+ ft long. My determination is that had I not been there my boat would have been damage as were some in my club which we could not get to during the storm.
Staying or evacuating was determined by the hour by hour conditions. If at anytime there was a shift in the conditions which would have placed me on the north side of the eye area I would have come off the boat to the clubhouse which was 18 ft above the level of the Creek. In no way was I in imminent danger unless something catestrophic happened, which could also have happened had I been on land also. Unbeknownst to me 3 blocks away a man was killed sitting in his living room when a tree fell into his house and crushed him. At least I was not under any trees.
Staying or leaving is an assessemnt of the conditions and data where you are as well as experience of the individual. No blanket statement can be made that its better to stay or go. To make such a generalization is not reasonable. That is left up for the indivdual to choose. There was no evacuation in my area.
It appears the death toll is already over 80. I have not heard of any individual who has perished on their boat. The exception is the HMS Bounty where your current cast of internet Sailnet Experts are trying to affix blame and determine how it happened from the comfort of their computer desks under the guise of a "learning lesson" orteaching experience. God rest those poor peoples souls.
So the rest of the dead appear to have been caused by falling debris of some kind. By your reasoning all people should have fled inland 200 miles to a non tree filled area whwre there were no bodies of water.
Situations like this are fluid and best decided by the indivduals who are in ivolved in them rather than some group think internet pundits. BUt after all this is the internet and everyone gets and opinion...even me,
Re: Sailing Darwin awards
The only thing I've ever heard that someone was able to do to help the boat when onboard during a major storm was to "power up on the gear" to take some strain off the ground tackle. Even then, I'd think the chance of getting some debris wrapped around your shaft would outweigh any potential benefit.
I'm with the "Prepare and get out" crowd.
Re: Sailing Darwin awards
Originally Posted by marianclaire View Post
Good story but isn't this "BUT, go a few feet to the east of the red or west of the green markers and it is only 2 feet deep." backwards?
Re: Sailing Darwin awards
Good story but isn't this "BUT, go a few feet to the east of the red or west of the green markers and it is only 2 feet deep." backwards?
But then again I have stayed on the MC for a few storms so maybe my brain is scrambled. Dan S/V Marian Claire
Re: Sailing Darwin awards
msmith, I'm sure the guys on Old Timer didn't appreciate it while they were in the situation, but to me this read like the best slapstick comedy I've seen in a while. I needed the laugh; thank you.
Re: Sailing Darwin awards
Wow-- how about a little lightening up. The following story was sent to me by a friend in Daytona Beach, describing how, last April, he watched a boat in the ICW run aground 5 times within 48 hours and 1-1/2 miles. A little lengthy, but a good read.
In the winter we live on the intracoastal waterway just south of a bridge in Daytona Beach. The intracoastal channel is only about 75 yards wide here. Wide enough for big boats to pass, it is marked by the typical red and green channel markers, so that you can stay in the 7 to 8 foot deep water. BUT, go a few feet to the east of the red or west of the green markers and it is only 2 feet deep.
So, Friday afternoon a lovely 40 foot Grand Banks Trawler named Old Timer driven and crewed by two gents looking to be pretty young (50s) motor past our condo on the way North for the summer. As they approached the bridge they wandered to the west of the green mark and just before the bridge ran hard aground yuck! It was about 3 in the afternoon and as I sat at this computer teaching my Northwood U course, I got to observe the chaos. It was high tide, with the tide beginning to go out, so every thirty minutes or so the boat sat higher out of the water, harder aground. It was about an hour before the SeaTow boat showed up to rescue Old Timer. The SeaTow captain tied a line and began to pull. Full power on the twin engines and after about thirty minutes it was apparent that Old Timer was there until the next high tide. SeaTow motored off into the sunset and the gents on Old Timer settled in for the night. (Note for those of you who are boaters, of course they did not put out an anchor, they were hard aground). Next high tide would be at 6 am Saturday morning.
In this photo yo can see how close to the channel the shallow shoal water is. While Old Timer sits aground to the right, the boat to the left is motoring North toward the bridge in DEEP water.
When the sun came up Saturday morning, a look off our balcony showed that Old Timer had indeed floated off the shoal at high tide. But, with the wind from the west and the crew apparently still asleep, old timer blew across the deep channel and ran aground again on the east side ! By the time the guys woke, the tide was going out and they were hard aground for the 2nd time with in 16 hours J Again with in a few hours, SeaTow showed up with a boat and a line to drag them off. One hour later, SeaTow motored away again after failing to budge Old Timer from the east shoal of the Daytona Beach channel. They would have to again wait for the next high tide about 5:00 pm Saturday night.
Around 4:30 pm SeaTow again showed up with line and boat. With in fifteen minutes Old Timer was free of the shoal and floating in the channel ! SeaTow escorted them into our harbor to the fuel docks and left. About thirty minutes later the gents on Old Timer motor her out of our channel to continue their trip North. Two channel markers BEFORE the end of our channel to the intracoastal, they turned North and ran aground for the 3rd time in 26 hours!!! But, this was their lucky day as the tide was still going up and within about thirty minutes they floated free and exited to the intracoastal. We went to dinner with my great friend John Radatz.
After dinner, just before dark, a look off our balcony showed that the gents aboard Old Timer must have been worn out form the experience, so they anchored for the night, just on the edge of the east side of the intracoastal, less than 100 yards form where they had been aground that morning, but this time on the deep side of the shoal. They put out an anchor, to the east (yes, the shallow side) and turned in.
Sunday morning at day break, a look toward Old Timer showed that a wind shift, during night, from the west had blown them TOWARD their anchor and they were hard aground for the 4th time. One of the gents got in the dinghy that they towed behind Old Timer and started working on the anchor and god knows what else, as the other gent(the dumber one) stayed at the helm of Old Timer to run the controls and steer. It was only about an hour and they freed themselves from the shoal and gent number two motored the boat off the shoal into the 7 foot channel. While gent #1 in the dingy tried and tried to free the anchor that they had set the night before, gent #2 at the helm, put Old Timer into neutral and went below. As the wind blew the boat back into the shallow water, with no one at the helm, the guy working with the dingy lost the painter and the dinghy began to blow away. RUNNING in water only as deep as his knees, he ran down the escaping dinghy as Old Timer, with no one driving, blew behind him, back onto the shoal.
Old Timer aground for the fifth time awiats the Sunday evening hige tide, just across from our condo balcony.
By 11 am Sunday Old Timer sat hard aground, ten feet from the intracoastal channel, for the 5th time in less than 48 hours, all within the same mile and a half in Daytona Beach. As I finish this writing, Old Timer is aground and awaiting the next high tide at 7 pm tonight, Sunday.
Re: Sailing Darwin awards
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A person with poor judgement should sell their boat now and never consider advising anybody on anything nautical lest they cause death.
Or is it just those with good judgment who judge others to have poor judgment, who can own a boat?
Originally Posted by azguy:940989
seems harsh....I would ahve stayed on the boat, if you were well prepared it does sem anymore dangerious than staying in some of the houses I saw destroyed.
At least on the boat you could re-tighten lines and control your own fate.
rush to judgement way off
way off said Buddha
enjoy the day
Re: Sailing Darwin awards
I propose we give the sailing Darwin Awards to everybody who stayed on their boats thru Sandy ( I mean those in Sandy's zone of damage). If you stay aboard, nobody thinks you are brave, we think you're a moron. You endanger your life, you endanger any rescuers and you make sailors in general look foolish- Frogwatch
So you propose we give them all the Darwin awards....how insensitive. My heart goes out for them and the loss of life.
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Protocol gut check. That's how someone recently described some research I've got under way for a report we're calling the "TechRadar™ for Security Pros: Zero Trust Identity Standards," wherein we'll assess the business value-add of more than a dozen identity-related standards and open protocols. But it's also a great name for an episode of angst that recently hit the IAM blogging world, beginning with Eran Hammer's public declaration that OAuth 2.0 -- for which he served as a spec editor -- is "bad."
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posted at 9:15 am on December 17, 2012 by Ed Morrissey
From the Justice Isn't Just Blind, She's Brain Dead Department, Australian division comes this case of screwed-up worker compensation. While on a business trip, a government employee got injured in a motel when a lighting fixture fell on her and her new friend in the throes of passion. Guess who gets to pay for her disability?
An Australian woman who was injured while having sex on an overnight work trip has won the right to compensation after a court dismissed her employer's argument that her injuries had not been sustained as part of her job.
The woman, who can't be named for legal reasons, was hurt when a glass light fitting fell on her during sex in a motel on an overnight trip five years ago. She was treated in hospital for injuries to her nose and face and later suffered depression and was unable to continue in her job. She filed a case for compensation against her employer, a federal government agency, for her physical and psychological injuries.
On the night in question in 2007, the woman was staying at a motel in the country town of Nowra, 100 miles south of Sydney. She had dinner with a man and then invited him back to her room where they had sex, during which a light fitting above the bed fell on her.
In a statement, heard by a court in 2011, the man said he wasn't sure how the light fell: "I think she was on her back when it happened but I was not paying attention because we were rolling around," he said.
His statement added that they had been "going hard" and he wasn't sure if they had bumped the light or if it had just fallen off.
The court ruled that the woman could have been playing cards, and that her activity was immaterial. In that, I agree. However, the judge then ruled that the woman was on the job and taxpayers were on the hook because she was traveling on government business. Here's a question: why wouldn't the liability fall entirely on the motel? The woman wasn't staying at a government-owned motel, after all, so it's a little difficult to see why taxpayers should have to indemnify the woman for risk at a facility in which they have no control over the risk in the first place.
I imagine that this will have a chilling effect in Australia on business travel. After all, this precedent — if upheld — would apply to the private sector as well. The travel industry down under had better start praying for a reversal.


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Discussion in 'Great Skate Debate' started by sk9tingfan, Apr 28, 2011.
It's official: Omaha Nebraska
Spinner has already claimed my couch, and I believe Jamesy has the bathtub.
Is this when I say "told ya"??? Oh you who don't trust my sources
Oh man- I wanna go! It would be my 30th birthday...great present. (And except for in the instance of terrible weather, not too far of a drive)
Just called my mom who officially booked my couch! I think we are going to start some sort of countdown. We were just talking yesterday with some relatives from Spokane about how much we want to attend a Nationals!
It's going to be freeeeeeeeeezing in NB in January .
now that we know where 2013 Nats will be, the race for the all important 2014 Nationals begin. I remember reading that Boston is interested, wonder who else will be bidding for 2014?
Well, luckily, Nats will be in NE not NB...
(Kidding you, really, take no offense, but the abbreviation for Nebraska is NE. NB is New Brunswick in Canada--common mistake, though. Once had some difficulty at a car rental because the woman put in NB and insisted I was Canadian).
While Nationals in Omaha would be great (they have a nice relatively new arena), I think I'll be spending my money that season on a trip up to fake London for the World Championships.
Nebraska in the dead of winter. Happy thought indeed...
Have fun y'all, but I'm crossing my fingers for Boston in 14.
still no website?
Digging out an old thread...
I ordered the weekend finals packages, which have not arrived yet.
Now if I check the all sessions package,
the same seats that I bought as a weekend packages are still available.
(Not sure if the other way around is also true).
Does this happen to anybody else?
Can't this cause double-booking?
I may have to call the Ticketmaster on Monday (le sigh).
Never mind.
As I actually tried to buy the same seats,
the message below popped up.
I still do not understand why they have not removed the seats from the choice in the initial selection to avoid unnecessary confusion, though.
I just wanted to let everyone know that is planning on going to Omaha that Southwest Airlines is having a winter fare sale and I bought my airfare this morning at a steep discount over what the going rate had been over the past few months. So if you can fly Southwest airlines, this could be a good time to book.
And if anyone needs the winter seat sale code, send me a PM and I'll send it to you.
I just bought my tickets on Southwest. The fare sale ends Thursday at midnight. Fares are reduced 40% so it is a good time to buy. BTW, Sundays are excluded. My tickets were $140 less that yesterday!
The SW code is on their home page. Just click on the banner with the sale info!
AirTran also came out with a great sale today. For an upcoming trip it was MUCH better then SW but in my case you can't fly AirTran to Omaha. (I am not 100% sure you can fly there on AirTran, but just in case you might want to check those fares too!)
Now if I only knew for sure what I was doing, have to plan this around work!
Those planning to travel from the Baltimore-Washington area should probably nail down their flights soon. The inauguration on January 20 will increase traffic out of DCA, IAD, and BWI during the early part of Nationals week. Richmond might also be affected.
There is a direct flight between Washington DC and Omaha by Frontier Airline.
I have never used this airline.
Does anybody have any experience with this company?
I haven't flown Frontier in a few years, but what I do remember with them is that the seats on the airplane are more comfortable than other airlines (Delta, Southwest, American, etc.) They're stationed out of Denver, my aunt used to fly with them all the time for work and had minimal issues.
I have had very good experiences with them, friendly etc.
Thanks Fridge_Break and johndockley92!
I just purchased Frontier Airlines tickets at an incredibly cheap price of $35 each way from Denver to Omaha! They have a deal going on through midnight tonight (Dec 31) if you purchase using a MasterCard (although my VISA worked as well). You get $25 off each way per person.
Forgot to mention that the promo code to use is "MC25".
Man, I'm not with it tonight! The actual fare for one person is $17.52 each way, or $35 ROUND TRIP for selected flights.


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text: Is there anyone else that feels like ESPN has WAY too much "Insider" stuff on their website these days? It seems like every front page image is linking to an Insider article, especially when it comes to NBA offseason info. I'm not paying money to read Hollinger et al wax poetic about "who came out of the free agent frenzy on top - and who flopped", and all that other stuff. It leads to an interesting question: Does splashing more Insider content motivate you more to get Insider access so you can read the articles, or does it prompt you to stop going to the site altogether?


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|January 20, 2013, 03:04 PM
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Is anyone else just exhausted?
With all this gun/magazine ban Crazinness going on, I just can't get away from it. It's all over the news, all over Facebook, and the rest of the Internet. Everywhere I go I overhear someone talking about it or someone is trying to talk to me about it. I know we can't let our gaurd down and we need to spread the word, but damn it's all stressing me out. On top of that I just keep thinking of what I should've bought when I had the chance, and "what if I can't ever find this again." there's also even bigger issues like what will happen to this country if this stuff passes. I also can't find any ammo to shoot which isn't helping. I'm just ready for it all to be over with.
Maybe my Harley is just spending to much time in the garage but damn it's cold...
Someday I'll be good enough to know if a gun is accurate or not.
|January 20, 2013, 03:18 PM
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|January 20, 2013, 03:43 PM
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I do feel tired. But this is not something we can ignore. In my entire existence I have never seen a bigger attack on the 2nd amendment and have never seen or even imagined the country would be this divided on every thing.
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I'm actually invigorated. There was a rally this weekend where someone took the original Texas "Come and Take it" flag, put an AR on it, and flew it.
I think / believe / hope / pray that enough is enough with enough honest citizens to turn the tide. Sooner, than later another issue, like the slightly delayed fiscal cliff, is going to get congress' attention, and expect much of the current anti-(stuff) will diminish.
Next time my license plate comes up for renewal, I'm switching to the "Come and Take it" plate. It's an attitude that is becoming more prevalent.
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|January 20, 2013, 04:04 PM
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I'm tired and I'm angry. I am also losing tons of FB friends. Lol
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Hahaha^^^^ that cheered me up
|January 20, 2013, 04:56 PM
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I'm exhausted, but I've had the flu and haven't slept for four days.
Elections have consequences, and we are feeling that at the moment.
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I'm burnt and my hands hurt from all the typing to my reps but I have no intention to back off. The anti's have nothing to loose we have everything to loose... I am not a sheeple, the antis need to learn we are not sheeple..
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Get the Harley out, change the oil, tune up then wash and wax! When was the last time you went fishing? Here is one of my other hobbies that I bust my knuckles on when I get stressed out. They take years to rebuild but provide a lot of down time pleasure. This is my 1919....
|January 20, 2013, 05:54 PM
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Exhausted? Yes.
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Milllions of men slept in the mud, shed blood, and shed tears over lost comrades to supply us with these freedoms. It's the least I can do to keep up the defense as best I can.
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|January 20, 2013, 06:20 PM
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Exhausted like a one legged man in an ass kickin contest.
|January 21, 2013, 09:31 PM
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Utopia.... nice T....
The rims you have look to be 1923.....
I put '23 rims on my 22 ....
Looks just like mine same color too
Here inConnecticut much too cold for the T
|January 21, 2013, 09:35 PM
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I'm tired of it, as well. But, it's a battle that's worth fighting.
To keep from overwhelming yourself, pick and choose the battles (conversations/discussions) you want to take part in. Some are not worth the trouble. Others will be a dead end. But, some are worth investing a little time.
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|January 21, 2013, 09:40 PM
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SIGHR, I like your analogy, but I feel we are in far better shape than that. I liken it to a Marine in an AmTrac plodding towards Saipan.
I feel envigorated when I read of all our pro-freedom/pro-Constitution representatives and sheriffs and it makes me want to fight that much harder.
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We have to keep pounding! that's all there is to it! And don't let up! I do think we are gaining some ground! But we have lots more to go! That rally and the letters we are sending is being noticed! The problem is the misleading politicians and media.
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Called my reps, emailed my reps, mailed my reps, still trying to provide real data to Facebook friends.... and still reading whatever new lunatic has popped up or whatever new bad news is coming in from some liberal state.
It does get old without feeling progress, but sites like this one help me keep up the fight!
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Dont give up or else you wont have to worry about having any of those items to talk about.
Now is the time for all of us to put our big boy shorts on and become activists instead of complacent bystanders. Not saying you are, but I am exhausted too from writing my local gun ranges, reps, politicians, sheriff etc.
Folks, if we lose the 2014 elections to the gun grabbers, we will be without the ability to protect ourselves from harm. No on, no one at all is immune from harm. I for one dont want to be the person that says "I should have done more to stop this" as a gunman enters my home.
|January 22, 2013, 10:57 AM
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This country is on the verge of a constitutional crisis having been pushed there by the anti-gun machine. Patience, concentration and stamina are the keys to prevailing against this attack on our rights.
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I think that one of the notions common to the anti-gunner is the idea that being a victim is 'noble'; as if it is better to be noble in your suffering than disruptive in your own defense.
|January 22, 2013, 12:45 PM
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I feel like a one armed paper hanger on the verge of losing his only job....
It helps me to remember that far more have sacrificed far greater than I have....
Bring it on!
|January 22, 2013, 01:14 PM
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tired yes but it got me thinking.
Obama may be pushing just enough to make the repubs look bad, bad enough to get voted out in 2014. If they get voted out then, the dems will have total control again PLUS they may also be able to get in one or two Justices at that time.
If you think the battle is tough now, wait till that happens, it wont be a battle because they will be able to trash the Bill of Rights.
We need to figure a way to organize against this and stay strong now.
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I am.
I'm tired of folks who have had no involvement with the 2A until last week yelling at me about "letting things get this bad."
I'm tired of folks who've never voted and can't even name their congressmen telling me how mad as hell they are at the current situation.
I'm tired of folks who read one unattributed rumor on some website, then fly off the handle and yell at me about [insert childish pun on the President's name].
Same goes for the dolts who get winded from walking twenty feet but regale me with their plans to go Wolverines when the End Times come.
If things get worse, it's somehow my fault. If they don't, the whole issue is forgotten, and these people go back to their bread and circuses.
Same thing as I saw in 1994.
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|January 22, 2013, 01:20 PM
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We old timers have see it before, and nothing is new under the sun. You youngsters who did not live thru the other bad-times who are "Tired" don't understand that it's not even begun yet. You just lived thru a time of coasting... now that time is over. Get off your ass and do something for generations to come.
I'm not tired. I'm invogorated.
This is a huge opportunity to win.
Let's kick ass and in a decade or three they will still be remembering how much it hurt them.
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I don't know, I came of age during the AWB and couldn't quite believe that it was truly gone when it sunsetted.
I feel like that makes me more inclined to fight for what we have now.
I remember being somewhat ostracized in fifth grade after Columbine not only for being a hunter, but not seeing how banning guns would have done anything to stop it.
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"Just as an oil lamp burns in dependence on oil & wick; and from the termination of the oil & wick — and from not being provided any other sustenance — it goes out unnourished; in the same way, when sensing a feeling limited to the body, he discerns that 'I am sensing a feeling limited to the body.' When sensing a feeling limited to life, he discerns that 'I am sensing a feeling limited to life.' He discerns that 'With the break-up of the body, after the termination of life, everything that is sensed, not being relished, will grow cold right here.'"
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heraclito27 wrote:But pegembara, as @reflection cite It's passion the fuel that keep the beings in existence, without that fuel, existence extinguish, no more reborn.
The cause of dispassion is the end of ignorance of the three marks of existence:
-All experiences are impermanent.
-All experiences are suffering.
-All experiences are not-self. (All things -Sabbe dhamma - conditioned and unconditioned are not self.)
If all experiences are impermanent, suffering and not-self, there is no reason to crave for more experiences, for more existence, this causes the cessation.
The teaching is very radical in the sense that is not possible to fix existence, you can't tweak this or that, become this or that and things are going to be ok. All form of existence is inherently marked with suffering, the only solution is the end of it.
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The way people think is that having been born, they don't want to die. Is that correct? It's like pouring water into a glass but not wanting it to fill up. If you keep pouring the water, you can't expect it not to be full. But people think like this: they are born but don't want to die. Is that correct thinking? Consider it. If people are born but never die, will that bring happiness? If no one who comes into the world dies, things will be a lot worse. If no one ever dies, we will probably all end up eating excrement! Where would we all stay? It's like pouring water into the glass without ceasing yet still not wanting it to be full. We really ought to think things through. We are born but don't want to die. If we really don't want to die, we should realize the deathless (amatadhamma), as the Buddha taught. Do you know what amatadhamma means?
It is the deathless - though you die, if you have wisdom it is as if you don't die. Not dying, not being born. That's where things can be finished. Being born and wishing for happiness and enjoyment without dying is not the correct way at all. But that's what people want, so there is no end of suffering for them. The practitioner of Dhamma does not suffer. Well, practitioners such as ordinary monks still suffer, because they haven't yet fulfilled the path of practice. They haven't realized amatadhamma, so they still suffer. They are still subject to death.
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John Hardin's ground attack didn't have success against Oldham County like it had in previous weeks, but junior quarterback Eli Mitchell and the Bulldogs proved they are capable of beating teams through the air.
Mitchell threw for 256 yards and three touchdowns to lead John Hardin to a 41-17 victory over the Colonels in the second round of the Class 5-A playoffs Friday night at Bulldog Stadium.
John Hardin (12-0) advances to meet Anderson County (9-3) in the Region 2 championship next Friday. The Bearcats, who will host John Hardin, routed Bullitt Central, 42-7 in the second round.
Mitchell's 256 yards were the third-best in the program's history and second only behind Jerren Morning's 262 yards for a playoff game. Mitchell completed 8-of-14 passes and was intercepted once.
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