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L.A. Activist Receives Threats After Being Targeted By Anti-Immigrant Radio Hosts
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An immigrant rights activist received hundreds of threatening calls after a controversial Los Angeles-area radio show known for inflammatory anti-immigrant rhetoric aired his personal cell phone number.
On September 1, John Kobylt and Ken Chiampou, hosts of the John & Ken Show -- Southern California's top-rated talk radio program -- aired the personal cell phone number of Jorge-Mario Cabrera of the Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights of Los Angeles (CHIRLA). The hosts urged listeners to leave messages about Cabrera's advocacy of the California DREAM Act, telling them to "congratulate" Cabrera on "his victory," which they described as "the theft of tax money for illegal aliens."
From the September 1 John & Ken Show (segment starts around 14:50):
KOBYLT: We have a copy of an email just handed to us, and this is from Jorge-Mario Cabrera, director of communications and public relations, the Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights of Los Angeles -- CHIRLA. C-H-I-R-L-A. And he writes: "Dear all, we've just been informed that AB131 will be introduced tomorrow morning -- Friday, September 2 -- by Assemblyman Cedillo during the brief morning session. It's expected to pass easily. The bill will head to the governor's desk by Wednesday afternoon or Thursday morning." That'd be next week."
CHIAMPOU: Right, but Brown has a month to act on it.
KOBYLT: Thirty days to sign the bill. "We strongly believe he will sign the bill but are yet unaware of when or where he will sign it. We will have students at CHIRLA wearing white colors, and if time permits, we will have doves or flowers to celebrate this 10-year victory between the hours of 10 a.m. and 2 p.m. Be well, Jorge-Mario Cabrera."
I have his office number. You may want to call him. Because they're planning a celebration on the theft of tax money for illegal aliens.
CHIAMPOU: They're years ahead of our audience. These guys have been organized, pushing for this for five years, and he said 10 years, because that's when they got in-state tuition.
KOBYLT: So, here's his -- I've got two numbers for him. You ready to call this? 213-353-1789. 213-353-1789. You might want to congratulate him on his victory. 213-353-1789. And I've got another number for him. XXX-XXX-XXXX. XXX-XXX-XXXX. That's XXX-XXX-XXXX. Jorge-Mario Cabrera. They're going to be releasing doves and throwing flowers, and he's with the Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights. They want to celebrate the theft of tax money for illegal alien college students.
CHIAMPOU: We said from the beginning, Jerry Brown's probably the only hope we have, to get him to veto this. I mean, this passed 50 to 27 a couple of months ago, and they didn't change it much. It will pass easily tomorrow.
KOBYLT: They are relentless. Even in spite of all the aggression they've heard and all the anger and the opposition, they're relentless in taking American tax money away from American families. And they're going to be screwing American college kids out of grants that these kids deserve. That's what they're going to be doing tomorrow in the Assembly.
The hosts again repeated Cabrera's information after a commercial break:
KOBYLT: We have the phone number for one of the spokesholes for this illegal alien activist group called the Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights of Los Angeles, Jorge-Mario Cabrera. You want to call him up? I'll give you the numbers again. 213-353-1789. 213-353-1789. Or this number: XXX-XXX-XXXX. XXX-XXX-XXXX. He's going to celebrate tomorrow by releasing doves into the air.
CHIAMPOU: Doves.
KOBYLT: Doves. This is so disgusting. This is just so despicable.
CHIAMPOU: What could we release? Show our displeasure.
In a September 8 Huffington Post column, Cabrera described some of the "very angry, and at times threatening calls" he received:
"You goddamn traitor to our nation. What the f*** are you doing? Go back to Mexico and fix your s*** over there. If I ever see your ass I'm gonna kick it. How dare you come to this country? This is a f****hostile takeover. I hope somebody shoots your ass." Cypress caller.
"Jorge, you are stealing from American citizen kids. F*** you." Los Angeles caller.
"Congratulations on the vote tomorrow that's going to steal money from college students that were born in this country. In celebration of this victory, after having lived a lifetime in California, having three separate sets of Hispanic workers that work for me at home and various jobs, I'm gonna fire all of them tomorrow and never hire another. Thanks. Enjoy." Orange County Area caller.
"How dare you, how dare you take American taxpayer's money for illegal aliens. This is gonna come to blows, I can guarantee it. Why don't you go back to wherever you came from and take those people with you and do something great in your country. And stop messing with mine."
"Am I calling the traitorous illegal alien advocate? You gotta be ashamed of yourself. Someday I think you will be." Buena Park caller
"The Illegals are never gonna be welcomed in this country. You guys are breaking the law and you're stealing the taxpayer's money. I can't believe what you guys are doing to us." Pomona caller
"I am so upset at you guys. You have destroyed this country and continue to destroy it. You are rewarding criminals. You guys are the worst scum of the earth I have ever seen. I can't stand you guys." Pomona caller
"I want to thank you for stealing my hard-earned tax money to support all your Third-World illegal immigrants from Mexico. You guys might wanna save your celebration because it's gonna be short-lived. It's gonna get shut down one way or another. You guys better pack your bags. You don't belong here. Do the right thing for once, please. Go home." Beverly Hills caller.
"Is this Jorge's number? You are a f***** loser. That's all I can say right now. Speak in the f*** English, a**hole." Montebello caller.
"Jorge, you need to stop encouraging people to steal our money for illegal aliens. Shame on you. Go back to Mexico, you make us sick." Northern Los Angeles Area caller.
"Get your people out of the United States. You are not American, you are a disgrace." Anaheim caller.
Cabrera wrote that the onslaught of calls crashed CHIRLA's voicemail system and that he received 291 calls just on his cell phone.
Given the hateful anti-immigrant rhetoric pushed by Kobylt and Chiampou, the vitriol spewed by John & Ken listeners toward Cabrera isn't surprising. For example, on the September 14 edition of the show, the hosts called California Gov. Jerry Brown a "stupid bastard" who "doesn't care about you if you're white and middle class. He doesn't. What he wants to do is take your money and give it to the illegal alien family." From the show (segment starts around 1:20):
KOBYLT: On the DREAM Act bill to allow college students who are not in the country legally to collect publicly funded financial aid, Brown is expected to sign the bill and he invoked the music legend Michelle Phillips of the Mamas and the Papas, who apparently is a big supporter of the cause. And he said, "You probably read the book called California Dreamin'. Think about it."
CHIAMPOU: That bastard.
KOBYLT: The reporter read that as, he's going to sign it. You know, he's a weird guy and, you know, he talks cryptically, but that just sounds like he's trying to wink and nod and say yeah --
CHIAMPOU: That bastard. With all we've been talking about how hard it is for people to find jobs coming out of college, and now you can't even get funding because they've taken your tax money and given it to the illegal alien college kids --
[interjection]: Recall! Recall!
CHIAMPOU: This stupid bastard is going around the state pretending that he cares, he grieves, he bleeds for all the people out of work and suffering from the economy. No, he doesn't. He doesn't care about you if you're white and middle class. He doesn't. What he wants to do is take your money and give it to the illegal alien family. That's what he's going to do.
And if that's what he's going to do, there's going to be big blowback. This whole state, this whole country, it's a powder keg. It's a time bomb. People aren't going to be abused this way and shoved into poverty by all these evil forces, whether it's the Wall Street crowd, the whored-out politicians in Washington and Sacramento, the union thugs who run a dictatorship in this state. It runs the gamut from the wealthy and the well connected, right down to those riff-raff pig union leaders. And they're all in one protected bubble here.
On the September 15 edition of the show, the hosts called a CHIRLA event a "big festival of parasites and thieves." They later said that the parents of undocumented children "took jobs from Americans, and now the kid is taking grant money from the American kid. All right?So now the theft is complete. Two generations. They stole your employment, now they're stealing your kids' education." From the show (first segment starts around 9:45; second around 24:00):
KOBYLT: So, there was a big festival of parasites and thieves. The CHIRLA group, the ones who wanted to get the federal government on our case because we gave out the phone numbers from their publicity release last week.
CHIAMPOU: Today they hold a press event. And, of course, the idea is to get Jerry Brown to sign part two of the California DREAM Act, the really evil one that'll take your tax money for illegal alien financial aid.
CHIAMPOU: The difference is, we don't consider the illegal aliens Californians.
KOBYLT: They're not.
CHIAMPOU: It's not.
KOBYLT: And by the way --
CHIAMPOU: We never have. We don't accept that.
KOBYLT: And by the way, these kids' fathers and mothers? They already stole jobs from the mothers and fathers of American kids. And now, he's going, "Well, it really doesn't matter where they're from. They're all Californians. [unintelligible]" No. Yeah, it does. Mom and dad took jobs from Americans, and now the kid is taking grant money from the American kid. All right? So now the theft is complete. Two generations. They stole your employment, now they're stealing your kids' education.
CHIAMPOU: All right. We'll have more on this in the 5 o'clock hour.
This isn't the first time that Kobylt and Chiampou's rhetoric has inspired listeners to make threatening calls. As the Los Angeles Times reported in February 2009:
Not that John & Ken or their website strive for subtlety. A central image on the site in recent weeks: pictures of the Republican budget supporters, their heads lopped off and set atop cartoon pikes.
Duly inspired, one KFI fan called the office of Assembly Republican leader Mike Villines in the wee hours of the morning (as the budget talks went overnight) and repeated, time after time, "Head on a stick! Head on a stick!"
In April, the Times noted that the hosts "refer to various lawmakers as 'traitorous pigs,' 'con artist' and 'Republican dirt bag.' They use gruesome sound effects to suggest the mounting of one legislator's head on a stake -- his entry into the duo's hall of shame."
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Hi all,
I tried to model my own Fett's bucket,
and I worked on it all my free time for last three days.
Look how it turned out:
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This is totally interactive model: you can zoom, rotate, insert cross section views, show/hide edges/shadows, display in perspective, etc.
It's now all yours =)
You can download the model there
This is a 4.7 MB ZIP-file with password: weequay
It is eDrawings viewer (Windows only EXE-file, sorry Mac users) with
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Hello all! I am quite new here. I have always wanted to be Boba Fett. It might sound odd because I am a woman and I am not sure how many female Bobas are out there. That brings me to my first question. I am 5'7" 120lbs. Will the armor look right on me? With StormTrooper armor I am a reduced size. The Helmet is normal but the chest, arms and legs are a little smaller. Boba doesn't have as much armor but I am afraid the chest and gauntlets might look funny on me. Unlike ST it doesn't look like there is an option of getting smaller pieces.
Second question is where is a good place to start on finding the armor?


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I have just begun working on a TESL certificate and have been teaching adults as a volunteer for a year. I now realize that I really don't enjoy teaching beginning or intermediate students, but I have a great time teaching advanced students.
Is it realistic to believe I can find a paid position teaching only advanced students? What kind of teaching position would that be? I don't have a masters degree.
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hi, Bob! he's just waiting for the fun to start! :)
Jay's calling for "short game" and this is a practice shot
ok, everybody put up your dollar/shot
ok, there were almost a 100 shots (aren't you glad I didn't show them?)! this was the winner! :) proceeds went to CCC!
ok, chowin' down, obstacle course is waiting!
are we havin' fun yet? :)
Ann: I don't believe I did that! Bill: <snickers> :)
some of the donations to the Humane Society
what's left after (hungry) curlers hit the food line! :)
hey, Jay! want another roll? :)
Kirsten's 'splainin' the rules
I didn't realize I'd caught this...but it sure looks good! :)
cryin' over the H'or D'ourves (Fancy Feast) :)
there's still some stuff left at the table :)
Ann: do you see my bird?
Jeremy: do you see mine?
it must have been funny! :) See? Even I don't know what I missed...:)
it's mighty mouse! I'm on my curling way! :) you youngsters won't recognize this :)
lots of cat/dog toys
I've seen these people (animals, uh, curlers?) before...
tickle my ear, I'll follow you anywhere! :)
is that an SDPS? (Sooper Duper Pooper Scooper)
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|Sea Dawg
Re: Length limit for single handers???
Consider low profile above water to be a single hander's advantage over one tall and proud but with lots of windage. A huge keel and lots of windage present a hazard to docking. I believe you'll find docking the largest challenge other than sudden changes in conditions. Another advantage would be more sails, only smaller ones. For example, I sailed a 31' Alden Gaff-rigged Yawl, Cutter rigged on the bowsprit with roller furling, and a small marconi aft. The Main had 3 reef points, so with 4 sails it lent itself to single handing even in a stiff breeze. I found the full keel a bit unmanageable back at the dock when the currents were ripping.
Of course if you have lots of technology you can stretch your limits and you may enjoy this video:
|Andrew Troup
Re: Length limit for single handers???
FWIW, I don't know of anybody inexperienced who taught themselves to sail, singlehanded, on a big boat.
I personally think it would be the height of foolishness to try.
You really need to have lots of years and thousands of miles under your belt before you would be ready to cope with misadventures alone on such a vessel.
|Andrew Troup
Re: Length limit for single handers???
Well .....
The length limit historically is probably held by Alain Colas, on Club Med, in the Observer Single handed Transatlantic Race of 1976
As for displacement, ditto -- Club Med's keel alone weighed 85 tonnes (depleted uranium, courtesy of the French government, so about half the size of a lead keel) ... that's 190,000 lbs hanging under the hull
However the sheer macho record surely goes to Eric Tabarly, in the same race, on Pen Duick VI.
This was possibly the most heavily equipped ocean racing maxi ever built, and was intended for a crew of dozens of strong guys, whereas Club Med was designed specifically for single handing -- although not well enough, as it turned out: the halyards chafed through, one by one, in the race in question -- which incidentally Eric Tabarly won, after his self-steering broke (AFAIK the ONLY concession to being solo which was fitted to the boat), and he hand steered 24/7 for about the last two days..... He even put up a friggin spinnaker, and this was before the days of virtually all labour saving devices for solo sailors. Certainly NO roller reefing or furling. Headsail sheets were wire rope, the kind you tow trucks out of ditches with; shackles were D shackles the size of a small fist.
Colas, OTOH, couldn't even finish the race: he ended up pulling into Newfoundland IIRC because one by one all the sails had fallen down, and it was not possible for a single guy to rehoist even one of them, let alone eight. (He had brought a whole team on board specifically to raise sail, and they all had to get off before the warning gun)
Which only goes to reinforce the excellent point made by Foolish Muse about a page back: they both had stupidly inappropriate boats, but one guy coped when things went wrong, and the other couldn't.
Tabarly was deservedly a sailing legend, absolutely one of a kind, but single-handing was really his forte: he had none of the leadership skills it takes to run a big boat successfully other than the ability to do most anything himself better than 99.9 of potential crew. A generation of starry-eyed, hero-worshipping young French sailors were (generally) privately disappointed when they finally made it onto his crew list and found out his limitations as a manager of men.
8' sabots are good for single handing... Then there is the extremine the "Maltese Falcon" a computer controlled mega yacht.
My own is a 45' ketch.... Which is plenty big for me...
|If you like the idea of having space. Look at multihulls, and get the space with a shorter boat, twin engines, smaller gear, and still get the speed of a big boat........i2f
I single hand a 22,000 lb 42 foot Catalina sloop. As someone mentioned above, its all about the last 5 feet to the dock. I did not purchase this boat with the intent of single hand live aboard cruising. I might have purchased something a bit smaller to reduce the physical effort of sail handling. However, in adverse conditions you generally are working to reduce sail, much easier than putting sail up. Also, as a cruiser I don't do "racing" changes. If it takes 15 minutes to raise the main, with appropriate rests in between cranking, so be it. That is all good.
What is difficult to control is the last 5 feet to a dock by yourself under adverse conditions. With a heavy boat you can not muscle it. You have to sail/motor it into the dock. Amateurs use bow and stern lines, the initiated use spring lines. A spring with a big loop on the dock end that can be hooked over a cleat gets that very important first attachment without ramming the bow or the stern into the dock or having the boat stream out at a 90 degree angle to the dock.
This leads to three conclusions:
1) You can't go bigger than a size at which you are comfortable that you can handle the sheets and halyards with whatever equipment is on the boat - which could include electric winches etc. Of course anything but people power gives you the additional risk that things might fail.
2) If you have the boat handling skills it doesn't much matter how heavy the boat is when you are docking, you are using the engine and rudder to make your approaches.
3) You need to have the common sense to not sail over your head. I have chosen to anchor out rather than try to approach a dock in adverse conditions, sat in port more than once waiting for a weather window, and run from adverse conditions in the open ocean (not fun, and it usually only makes things a little less adverse, but heck, you got to do what you got to do!)
Fair winds and followings seas.
|Excellent point, FoolishMuse.
The best advice I can give is to reiterate what was mentioned earlier, and really emphasise it. You must be able to handle the boat when EVERYTHING goes wrong.
Electric winches that suddenly jam.
Electric windlass that breaks.
Spinnaker that is sailing wonderfully until the pole downhaul breaks in 25 knots of wind.
Motor stops in 15 knots of wind inside the docks.
Etc, etc, etc,.....
You get the point.
Singlehanding is more about handling all of the many things that go wrong than anything else. Get a boat that you can handle when the absolute worst goes wrong, and you will be happy.
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Hi Mike,
I looked at the liberty 458. It looks similar in many ways to my peterson 46.
Not entirely true
Originally Posted by davidpm View Post
And then there is anchoring. Power windless is great but if you can't anchor without it then your options can be limited by any one of several glitches.
For most full time cruisers anchoring is something they do almost every day
This is not to imply that a good windlass is any less important. With proper (ie all chain) ground tackle I would not want to be handling anchoring chores on even a boat of 12,000 lbs. It can be done but loses its appeal very quickly indeed - like once. With any boat with a windlass it is a good idea to figure out how you will handle the anchor if the windlass quits - usually a process involving a couple of lines with chain hooks and a big winch.
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|The red sweater! Again! Again!
Here's a picture of me in Paris around six months ago. It was that week that Jordan encouraged me to start a blog of my own. I'm so glad we had that conversation! Since then, blogging has opened up so many opportunities and friendships for me. Three cheers for whoever invented blogging. And four cheers for my internship at a publishing company!


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Kicking off another thread based on Huntall's "what to stock" thread. Was thinking today of all the stuff I have gotten over the years and what I really use...
Most of this stuff you can pick up at a flea market for cheap... I know, because that's what I did. Buying used stuff is really the sensible way to go. No one has ever looked at me across the table and said: This meal was entire cooked on brand new All Clad cookware, wasn't it?
So here's my list of stuff that I find indispensable in the kitchen. Not sure what I would do without the following.
Pots and pans:
Stock pot (huge)
Enameled French oven & cast iron dutch oven
Stainless steel frying pan 12''
2, 3.5 & 6 quart stainless steel pots
Flat skillet - cast iron
#3, #5, #8 cast iron skillets
11' teflon frying pan (I think we got it at Ikea - works great)
Roasting pan/rack
A cookie sheet not the double layer variety
10x13 and 9x9 pyrex baking pans
Heavy duty loaf pan
Stainless mixing bowls
Japanese vegetable knife
10" chefs knife
Boning knife
Paring knife
(got a bunch of others but really these four see the most use)
Stand mixer
Stick blender
Food processor
Coffee grinder for spices
Rice cooker
Salad spinner
French press coffee maker
Hand tools:
Silicon spatulas
Colanders plastic and tall stainless
Bamboo spoons/stirrers
Chinese spider strainers large and small
2 quart and 2 cup pyrex measuring cups
Measuring spoons: round and rectangle.
Rolling pin
Pastry cutter
Graters/citrus stripper
Shrimp deveiner
Off the wall stuff.
Silicon mat for dough kneading
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By Chris Harris
A summer of transfer speculation is no excuse for a poor start to the season, according to Arsène Wenger.
The Frenchman has had to field questions about Cesc Fabregas and Samir Nasri since he returned from his holidays but, as Arsenal prepare to kick off the new Barclays Premier League campaign at Newcastle, their futures remain unresolved.
Wenger admits that the constant rumours have disrupted his preparations for the 2011/12 season but he expects his players to be completely focused at St. James' Park on Saturday.
"The transfer speculation is disruptive but not an excuse," said the manager.
"We have to deal with that, it is part of our job. People come in and out. What is important is that people are focused on achieving things for this club.
"The transfer speculation, since I have been here, we have been in the middle of it. It was like this with Vieira, with Petit, with Overmars, with Bergkamp. We had that every year. I believe it is part of our job and we have to deal with that."Copyright 2017 The Arsenal Football Club plc. Permission to use quotations from this article is granted subject to appropriate credit being given to www.arsenal.com as the source


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Wow Heatshock, I could not have said it better.
I would think ABS would be better for something you didn't plan on painting, kind of like a Stormtrooper suit.
I have been building suit's out of HIPS since early 2005 and have no problem with paint sticking.
You have to prep it with Primer and I have always use Krylon Fusion paint (which is made for painting plastic).
Plus like Heatshock said, you have to glue, bondo and sand the seams.
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Drawbridge: A new form of virtualization for application sandboxing
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The Drawbridge library OS is an experimental Windows 7 library OS - a research project and proving ground for a larger concept: application virtualization and sandboxing. Drawbridge is capable of running the latest releases of major Windows applications such as Microsoft Excel, PowerPoint, and Internet Explorer with very little overhead compared to the traditional virtualization techniques. The experiment is going well! Now, what's going on here, exactly?
Drawbridge research team members Galen Hunt, Reuben Olinsky and Jon Howell dig into some of the details, including project rationale and OS architecture, of research project Drawbridge.
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Dave Probert: Inside Windows 7 - User Mode Scheduler (UMS)
Chittur Subbaraman: Inside Windows 7 - Service Controller and Background Processing
Mark Russinovich: Inside Windows 7
Rick Rashid: Leading Microsoft into the Future with Research
The Discussion
Enlightened? That's the opposite of "embiggened", right?
@aldie_lab: No. Enlightened as in the operating system (in this case, a library OS, which is a modified Windows 7 used for experimentation in the Drawbridge research experiment) is aware of and capable of running inside picoprocesses. So, enlightenments are enhancements to the OS which help reduce the cost of certain OS functions (like running inside a picoprocess).
this video is finally out ! very interesting
This means that we might finally get native code on the web(again)?
Interesting video! Thanks Charles! Always impressive with what new ideas the people at MSR come up! Great to put the spotlight on researchers.
Unrelated: Would love to see Singularity's ideas go mainstream. Singularity's *the single most interesting* idea and implementation I've seen in a long time in OS research. While it might not have been the first approach it was very well executed (and documented).
Interesting interview but would have been nice to have a little deeper questions:
If app consists of multiple sequential or parallel executables, so that eg. excel.exe starts excel2.exe and then excel.exe terminates and excel2 starts multiple different exes with their own windows and excel2.exe terminates... will this kind of thing work with this model? What if there's also some LPC or shared memory IPC between these before the termination?
If app uses CreateFile to open \\.\C: (hope i got that right) or a PhysicalDisk and in order to run needs to be able to write and read somewhere on the disk without going through the filesystem apis, will your security layer virtualize this or will the app fail to run?
How do you "install" app onto this sandbox? Lot of talk about lack of 3D/HW support but would have been many more interesting questions about how to handle things related to what eg. game installers do, such as "sony rootkit drm", would that rootkit drm game install fine even if it was just 2D non-accelerated game. Also, would this approach work to enable better compatibility with Windows 3 & 95/98 apps/games using old DX apis?
Getting old windows games and apps to run is oft more pain than dos games in dosbox. If MS were to productize this research, it could end up like the current app compat layer, which can require a bunch (too much) of fiddling just to find the app you want to run is not going to run since even if you put compat mode "XP", the broken stuff tends to stay broken unless it was specifically tested by people in MS.
I think this type of legacy compatibility thing may be better using a hybrid development model: paid core team developing the long term goal deliveries and then allow the community using the product develop their own minor fixes and improvements that could be easily patched (by users, so simply that no instructions are needed) into the product on need basis. eg. if I as user run appX, it will check for community made fixes for appX and allow me to install those in the sandboxing layer or something, ensuring longevity and broadening compatibility as time goes on even if MS stops active development on the sandbox. Just a thought...
@androidi: "It would have been great if the conversation centered around the specific technical topics I'm most curious about". OK. Maybe next time...
At any rate, you have a place to ask questions now. The Drawbridge people also have a place to look for questions to anwser.
The video in the SL player is not playing... download works though
@Minh:Weird. Republishing.
The possibility that I could start working one something on my home machine (say in VS) "hibernate" it and transfer that state to a cloud service and then pick up again right where I left off on any internet-enabled (and RDP enabled) device is quite intriguing to say the least; as well as very useful.
Not to mention the possibilities as far as backward compatibility is concerned.
There is a concept called 'AppContainer' for Metro-style apps in Windows 8, which is very strict sandboxing / isolation, I guess it could be a good basis to incorporate the library OS idea. can you compare the AppContainer and the Picoprocess approach ? or AppV ? ThinApp ?
16 hours ago, Charles wrote
@Minh:Weird. Republishing.
Still not working here either. other videos work fine...
@giovanni: Working on it. My apologies.
Nice. So in the future, a user could hit a exception, then "click-dump" the process (as a button in the exception window) and email to me. I could open that in VS debuging and be right in the context of the issue and even see what happened before the exception. Probably could also add a 20 sec reply window replay what user was doing 20 seconds before the issue for even more local context. Now that itself is a game changer. Also a neat way to publish working VS solutions for samples and demos, or office documents. The target user does not even have to have office installed and could even open from over the web. Big game changer. Nice what senerios that could enable.
11 minutes ago, staceyw wrote
Nice. So in the future, a user could hit a exception, then "click-dump" the process (as a button in the exception window) and email to me. I could open that in VS debuging and be right in the context of the issue and even see what happened before the exception.
If you want to resume hibernation, you need hiberfil.sys as well as your intact filesystem. You can't just send hiberfil.sys to another machine and resume your OS there.
@Charles: Fixed!
Strangely, I found this about 10 minutes after watching the video.
The move from kernel mode to user mode comments stood out.
Very cool stuff!
I'm curious how (in conceptual terms) the Drawbridge compares to a technology like Thinapp (previously Thinstall), I suppose other than the obvious ability to rearrange the OS..
I watched the video yesterday. But it got me thinking - how exactly is rearranging the OS better than using a Hyper-V VM with memory deduplication on EPT/Nested Pages?
This keeps memory usage low. How many instances of IIS would you be able to run in VMs using memory deduplication, as opposed to the number in Drawbridge? How well does Drawbridge perform CPU-wise, as opposed to running on bare metal hypervisor?
There were also some scenarios mentioned, such as:
- using it to keep compatibility with XP
- sandboxing
Well, I don't think it is easy to refactor an outdated OS and to keep compatibility for every single system call. Would you use XP RTM, XP SP1, XP SP2 or XP SP3 as the baseline?
With an upgrade to a new OS version, your existing applications get a new look, since they blend with the OS's redesigned UI elements. This is very much desirable, as opposed to keeping it at the version "they were designed for". Then there's WinRT. I guess "desktop mode" APIs will stay Win7 compatible for a very long time, since most innovation will be in the WinRT world.
As to sandboxing, using a processor security feature (ie VM mode) is much more secure than it is to use existing ring protection. Unless you decide to use PL1 and PL2 (how's with ARM compatibility then)?
Really cool! Very interesting. I was imaginating you could like "transfer" a program from a computer to a tablet (Just an example) in the very near future. Just an example tho
Linux Containers (http://lxc.sourceforge.net/) anyone?
Linux Containers (http://lxc.sourceforge.net/) anyone?
@James: As you point out, there is a rich history of sandboxing technologies that operate at the scale of an application (chroot, zones, jails, containers, etc.). These were all important advances. Our contribution is to marry application sandboxing with the library OS concept. If you want to read more detail, our ASPLOS 2011 paper provides some comparison with existing technologies.
As far as we know, Drawbridge is the first in this class to provide not just isolation, but also persistent compatibility and execution continuity. When packaged with its library OS, a Drawbridge application can run across many different host OS versions. And, a running Drawbridge application can move from one host machine to another (without losing its state).
@Charles: Perfect, thank you!
Wow, it's like that Galen guy and his team get to work on magic...
I'm jealous of their lifestyle.
Oct 19, 2011 at 12:47 AM, JohnSawyer wrote
I watched the video yesterday. But it got me thinking - how exactly is rearranging the OS better than using a Hyper-V VM with memory deduplication on EPT/Nested Pages?
This keeps memory usage low. How many instances of IIS would you be able to run in VMs using memory deduplication, as opposed to the number in Drawbridge? How well does Drawbridge perform CPU-wise, as opposed to running on bare metal hypervisor?
Any benchmarks yet?
In the paper "Exterminate All Operating System Abstractions" (www.stanford.edu/~engler/hotos-jeremiad.ps) they talk about an "application-level operating system"; would you say that that is, or can be seen as, related to DrawBridge?
In the paper "Exterminate All Operating System Abstractions" (www.stanford.edu/~engler/hotos-jeremiad.ps) they talk about an "application-level operating system"; would you say that that is, or can be seen as, related to DrawBridge?
Yes, Engler et. al invented the idea of a library OS (an "application-level operating system"). Our academic contribution was to show 1) how the interface between the library OS and the host OS can be modified to enable persistent compatibility, 2) how the it can enable migration, and 3) that Windows can be used to create a library OS.
By the way, our paper mentioned above discusses the related work in more detail.
Unrelated: Would love to see Singularity's ideas go mainstream. Singularity's *the single most interesting* idea and implementation I've seen in a long time in OS research. While it might not have been the first approach it was very well executed (and documented).
Thanks! We are very proud of our Singularity work as well. Interesting, several of the great ideas from Singularity were reused in Drawbridge. For example, the Drawbridge ABI (application binary interface) is very similar to the Singularity ABI. Also, Drawbridge employs many of the program manifest and packaging ideas that we pioneered in Drawbridge.
I like the way you can suspend a process or fork it across the network. That's quite impressive!
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