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.What is the final shedule to feed bees? Every one clears it out in their home district.If you have 5 hives, it does not take many hours to make syrup and fill feeding box.100 kg sugar, and you just take time. .
..I think he treats with oxalic in December when there is little brood in the hives.Correct me Finsky if I am wromg on when you do your treatments for mites.
1. If I choose to make my own sugar candy for feeding over the winter. (We have one hive with no honey) Should I place the candy on top of the frames or over the inner cover. Did I read an earlier post that said it melted and killed the hive?
2. Or it sounds like I can just put sugar on the inner cover. Did I understand this correctly? Is that all there is too it?
3. For either of these choices, do I periodically add more sugar or sugar candy to the hive during the winter. Is it OK to open the top cover during the winter?
The cold fondant, plus warm moist air from the hives, made it like a rain storm in the hives. I could not believe how much water was in them.


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The Simon Wesenthal Center has listed Norway, Sweden and Estonia among nations not doing enough to identify and prosecute Nazi criminals. Several nations are accused of not utilizing existing legal procedures in order to investigate and prosecute suspected Nazi war criminals. Norway and Sweden were placed in the F-1 category which places issues of principle as being obstacles to getting Nazi war criminals placed in jail. The entire issue of dealing with individuals who were part of the Nazi regime arouses emotions from those whose grandparents suffered through the horror of the Holocaust as well as those whose grandparents were the ones carrying out genocidal policies of the Holocaust.
In theory it would be justice if every single ex-Nazi who participated in slaughter was placed on trial and sentenced to some form of punishment. Sixty years have passed and the perpetrators are old, and some senile. How does one deal with individuals in this state of health who participated in atrocities?

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I stay in Oklahoma and was wondering, do yall have many birds yet , or is it still to early??? Iam also gonna post something in the Dakota ( South & North) Forum,, trying to track the migration, of the bigger wadds so to speak... I have heard that this is gonna be a season to remeber!! Just curious?? What yall Nebraska fellas holdin? Yall help me out if you can... Thanks...dead drakes..CYA!


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My eyes hurt from rolling.
Two of my favorite things, tea and puns.
"I'm a little tea pot, short and stout. Here is my handle, here is my spout. Tip me over, and drain me out." lalalalalala
I can only hope the vine growing from the cup leads to a cloud covered in gold coins.
skatimmy737 wrote:My eyes hurt from rolling.
You should get that checked.
I'm just exhausted enough for that write-up to be pretty much the funniest thing ever. I couldn't even get through it in one go.
As for the shirt, very commendable anytime someone matches red and green and it DOESN'T make me think of Christmas. Also, I love tea.
Good job!
You know, at first glance I'll bet a lot of people mistake this for a Christmas shirt.
Love the writeup!
I'm with you... I... am... stunned...
Ah ha, well isn't that clever.
Sooooo, if I get a stain on this shirt, I'd be having a spot of tea. Am I right?
I find this design a little...lopsided.
Regarding the write-up:
American English places the comma within the quotations--always.
- Someone Who's Paid to Know Such Things
Can you imagine how utterly pathetic you would look wearing that shirt?
While I adore this shirt (and purchased one), I'm a little sad not to see the lady bug design. *sniff* I'll get over it when I wear my tea shirt for the first time. And the first person to hate on it gets threatened with the tea bag.
Wear this if you're a Tea Party member.
How are you supposed to hold that tea cup. The handle looks daunting.
Hahaha, that write-up was great! And I think my avatar goes along with the "This shirt tells the world" Disney reference. *grin*
theseattlegirl00 wrote:Regarding the write-up:
American English places the comma within the quotations--always.
- Someone Who's Paid to Know Such Things
You're wrong.
This shirt causes me tea-pain.
hey congrats fungusamongus! well done
Congrats on the win!
Ahhh... Just 36 votes away from an awesome shirt. One day I'll get a shirt with your leaves/scales patter on it, Boots. Thought for sure that the third time would be the charm...
Finally a tee for everyone that likes tea. It's nice to see this one pull through to get a place. Congratulations on the print!
NightGhost wrote:Wear this if you're a Tea Party member.
Dang! And I was considering getting this shirt! I won't now.
Tea comes from an evergreen shrub/tree - it's not grass! Camellia sinensis!!! The family is Theaceae and it's in the order Ericales which includes blueberries and azaleas. The plants are really beautiful.
Sorry, gratuitous amounts of plant taxonomy classes make you persnickety about that sort of thing XD
Has woot changed the color of the "grass" green shirt? The only other grass shirt I have is "eat more meat" and it really looks like a different color on screen?
Oooh, this is a such a tasteful shirt! It's a rich aroma of two earthy colors, and is satisfying no matter what time of day.
I can also wear it to Teavanas everywhere and be mighty-mighty.
Is this the perfect Jersey-going-out shirt? IT'S TEEEEEEAA SHIIIIRRRRRRT TIIIIIIMEEEE!!
As one with an English B.A., I totally approve this shirt.
Visual puns are awesome.
Just when you thought you've had enough from the Teabaggers.
So tea is being made from aspen leaves now? How interesting.
drunkenalien wrote:How are you supposed to hold that tea cup. The handle looks daunting.
I think you're supposed to stick your pinkie out.
Congrats Fungus!
Cute shirt, great write-up.
As someone who makes their living writing, I can tell you that the punctuation definitely goes inside the quotations, though.
Get this for your very merry unbirthday!
Really need to know what kind of tea this is. My doctor has banned me from having any black tea because I get kidney stones. They are not pleasant, so would like to stay clear of it in any form.
I'm guessing this is a green Tee shirt cause its green, or at least that's the color it appears to be. See, I've never been tested to see if I was color blind, and would rather not risk the chance of getting another kidney stone.
I understand the description says grass, which typically means the color green, but I've heard of kentucky blue grass before, and don't know how blue tea would affect me. Id hate to get a blue kidney stone, cause it would hurt me greatly to know that my kidney stone was sad cause I made it blue from wearing kentucky blue grass tee.
Thanks in advance.
corafan wrote:He's not wrong. And it goes for periods as well.
I've found that people really dislike the idea of periods and commas in quotations; I remember having a heated discussion with my sister where she refused to punctuate properly on principal because it would 'never feel right to her.'
Hm. I guess that says something about my family, that such is the substance of our debates!
Complicating the matter is that placing periods and commas outside the quotations is the practice 'across the pond,' and similarly, few people here seem to know this rule and punctuate incorrectly in advertising and on public literature. The result? Nearly every American defender of the 'outside period and comma' has an example to cite.
Never mind that the example they cite isn't of proper usage, but of poor usage--the fact that they've seen it used in such a way seems proof enough.
As you can tell, this issue peeves me.
i am disappoint.
Cute Shirt..hogtown mushroom ;)
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Boston, MA - Major League Lacrosse (MLL), the premier professional outdoor lacrosse league, has announced it's weekly award winners following this past weekend's action. Long Island Lizards midfielder Stephen Berger was named the Offensive Player of the Week, Boston Cannons goalie Kip Turner was named the Defensive Player of the Week and Denver Outlaws attackman Connor Martin was named the Rookie of the Week.
Berger took home the offensive award in Long Island after a five goal performance including a last second two pointer for a total of six points. With time winding down and the Lizards leading by one, the Chesapeake Bayhawks pulled their goalie to double the ball, but Berger capitalized and hit the two pointer from out deep on the empty net to seal the 14-11 victory.
The long time Lizard had an outstanding night shooting the ball, tallying his five goals on just eight shots. Berger's performance was all the more impressive as he helped fill the void left by top scorer Zack Greer who was overseas for the FIL World Championship.
The Long Island victory puts the Lizards at 5-5 and keeps them in control of their own destiny in regards to Championship Weekend. Currently sitting in third place the Lizards are poised to return to the playoffs and could clinch a spot with a victory over the Toronto Nationals next weekend.
The defensive honors this week went to Turner after his standout performance which helped the Cannons clinch the first spot in the 2010 Championship Weekend presented by Warrior. Turner made 16 saves on the night, allowing 10 goals to the Nationals in a full 60 minutes in the cage. Turner stopped one shot after the next, including several shots right on the doorstep of the goal. Many of the Nationals are indoor lacrosse players by trade and were playing like it with quick releases and blistering shots from up close, but Turner remained unfazed.
"Kip played very well on Saturday night as well as the past couple of weeks which is important as we come down the stretch and into the playoffs," said Boston head coach Bill Daye. "Having a goalie who's seeing the ball and leading the defense is important for us to have success in the post season."
It was a night celebrated for Boston's playoff berth and attackman Matt Poskay breaking the Cannon's all-time scoring record, but Turner was the unsung hero of the game on the defensive side. The Cannons have gone 5-0 at home and can clinch the first undefeated home schedule in team history with a win on Aug. 7 against the Bayhawks.
Martin was the top rookie this week as he helped lead the way for the Outlaws in a come-from behind 15-11 win over the Chicago Machine. Martin made his Outlaws debut and helped lead the come-back as he finished the night with a hat trick and an assist. Martin was making his debut as a fill in for the lauded Denver attack while top scorers Drew Westervelt and Brendan Mundorf were both over in England playing for Team USA.
"Martin is a great sport, a great kid. I just wanted to give him a shot," said Denver head coach Brian Reese. "I thought he's a pretty talented guy. He's a great guy to have on the team, he pushes everyone else. I think he can play in this league."
Martin took the road less traveled to MLL as he never played at a top Division I school like most players; instead he played at the club level for Chapman University in the Men's Collegiate Lacrosse Association (MCLA). Martin is the only MCLA field player to ever receive playing time in MLL history. He was extremely successful at Chapman, one of the top club teams in the nation, as he helped lead the team to back to back national championship appearances. Perhaps better known as his YouTube sensation, Con Bro Chill, Martin was drafted in the seventh round by the Outlaws.


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Medium flat rate box (approx 1630 pieces) $159.65 plus $12.35 shipping for a total of $172 (USPS MO ONLY)
or $178 PPAL I dislike ppal like you all but it is fast and easy.
(this is roughly equivalent to $97/1000)
Typically these boxs weighs 22 lbs it is the 11x8.5x5.5 box and I try to squeeze it full.
I will not promise you will get 1630 in the box, only that that is what I come up with after filling and counting. The test box. Twice. The weight confirms this is very close to correct.
The brass has not been washed but it looks pretty good. It has been sorted once to ensure it is LC but again there may be a few that are not. Nothing in life is perfect. I have pulled bad cases as I see them as has the supplier but you may get a couple bad. The range has been really picked over the last few months so this is almost all fresh.
I will accept paypal plus 3% or USPS MO for amount above received within 5 business days.
I dont want to talk down the brass, I like it, its the best range pickup I have gotten in almost a year. I just dont want someone complaining that it is not like new. Or there were <gasp> a few bad pieces etc or this one has some dirt on it...
I have more OTW and some Federal washing.
box 5 22.1 lbs
These weights are the brass and the box done on my bathroom scale.
What my scale said was 24.2 lbs the PO said was 24 lbs 10.7 oz so my scales may be a little light.
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I am looking for help from people with Nitrous Experience. Bad bow tie gave me an idea but I need hard facts to make my decesion. Here Is my engine
350chev,2 bolt main, .060 over, 9:5:1 compression, edelbrock performer intake. 600 edelbrock carb, Hydralic cam and lifters, cam is .450/.460, 1 5/8 headders 3 in collectors, 1.94,1.60 heads HEI ignition and 8mm wires. How much if any Nitrous could I use on this engine, Is it hard to install and if i do get it where can i get the bottle filled?
Thanks for the help in advance,
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Question #1-How much can I use?
As much as you want until you blow the head gaskets out of it, I would not use more than a 50HP or 75HP shot until you know what your doing. The critical part is the solenoids and the fuel pump, both have to flow large amounts of N2O and fuel and must be in top shape so you don't starve the engine of either at full load (kiss it goodbye). Use the largest most expensive fuel pump you can afford and use a pressure relief plumbed into the fuel return line to maintain your pressure, I can't stress this enough. Big fuel lines (1/2" at least) right from the tank (inside the tank too!) insulated N2O lines right to the carb (you do not want the stuff vaporizing before the nozzles). Once you have the entire system established and working properly with the smallest "pill", you can try the larger "pills". Put a gauge on every thing leading to the engine, oil pressure, fuel pressure, N2O pressure etc. The last thing you want is the fuel pressure dropping, the N2O pressure rising because it's hot outside and your oil pressure dropping at the same time (kiss it goodbye). Personally I like the bottle mounted in the front clip somewhere so the line length is kept to a minimum. A key point to remember is if one gauge is dropping or low, shut it down-it's not worth it even if you have to swallow some pride and lose a race.
Question #2-Is it hard to install?
To do it right means reengineering your entire fuel system and intake distribution if you want that 150HP shot. Ideally your engine should have forged pistons fitted on the loose side in case you detonate the motor at full load with a bottle that suddenly runs dry, freezes up a solenoid or any other million things that can go wrong. If you have cast or eutectic pistons and you detonate at full load-kiss it goodbye. In my opinion there no is half way to build a nitrous motor, sure there are many guys just buying the kit and doing it half-a__ed but they will get bit eventually. Seen it happen a million times. Another real important point is your HEI is basically useless at the kinds of cylinder pressures N2O can generate-think FRANKENSTEIN!
Question #3-Where do I get my bottle filled?
The local rod shop, medical gas suppliers, welding gas suppliers sometimes. Best to phone around and make sure your bottles are getting weighed while it is being filled. You should be paying by the pound not by the bottle. One last thing, buy the biggest bottle you can afford/fit it's the s_its having to refill every week and don't use it if you only have a quarter bottle left-refill!!
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[ March 22, 2002: Message edited by: 4 Jaw Chuck ]

you said the biggest most expensive fuel pump I can afford, what kind of pressure do you recomend for the engine I describded. As of now i have a Holley red electronic fuel pump and stock fuel system in my 1979 monte carlo. How much would you estimate that this renavation would cost. I dont plan on ever going past 6000 RPM and usually never above 5500 RPM.thanks
79monte :D
A Holley red pump is a good start, buy another one and plumb it in parallel. Sound like overkill?, let me tell you why. You are going to be feeding an oxygen rich gas at high RPM, to use this oxygen you need fuel to compensate or it will go lean. You ever hear detonation at 5000 rpm? Of course not, at that rpm there is so much noise and things going on you will not hear it. If you run into detonation at this rpm with N2O flowing the engine will go lean and combustion chamber temps go through the roof. It always seems that they run just great until the hole appears in the piston. So this means you do not want the fuel pressure to drop at any time, high G loadings at launch can play havoc with fuel pickup so keep that in mind too.
Fuel pressure requirements have not changed but your volume sure has, thats why the dual pumps and big lines. Listen if all you want is an extra 50-75 HP you might get away with your stock setup-MAYBE! The problem with N2O is it is so easy to dial it up and get more more MORE! This is what gets most people into trouble. If you can restrain yourself and have a well dialed in fuel system then go for it. BUT your stock lines are not sufficient for anything but the stock carb. I recommend you upgrade the fuel system, the gauges, etc. if you want to be playing it safe with the minimum shot. It is not worth a blown engine to find out the hard way.
How much will it cost?, the sky is the limit. If the N2O system is $400 then add another $600 for the modifications to use it safely. If you do it right the first time then you can play with more N2O. Otherwise you will be stuck with a marginal system that can be brought down by something as simple as vapor lock. It really depends on how much, how fast, and how well built the engine is to take the added pressure. Don't be discouraged, just don't do it cheap-you will be sorry.
BTW rpm is irrelevent, high combustion pressure and temps are what causes the damage with N2O. Ignition and timing becomes all important with N2O so throw in a heavy duty ignition system to light it off when it needs it. That HEI won't cut it for long.
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--On Tuesday, the Senate takes up tax legislation (energy, AMT, extenders)
--Also on Tuesday, Treasury Secretary Paulson and FED Chairman Bernanke testify at Senate Banking--Later in the week, the House will consider a Continuing Resolution (CR) through March 2009
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The Administration released over the weekend proposed legislation that would give the Secretary of the Treasury sweeping authority to purchase "on such terms and conditions as determined by the Secretary" up to $700 billion of "mortgage-related assets from any financial institution having its headquarters in the United States."
The Treasury would issue new Treasury debt to finance the purchases. In order to accommodate the new debt, the bill would increase the statutory limit on the public debt to $11.3 trillion. When the Bush Administration took office in 2001, the public debt was half that amount, at $5.7 trillion.
There is ongoing discussion among congressional staff, and the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) and the Office of Management Budget (OMB), about how to "score" the Treasury purchases. The draft legislation states that the "cost of mortgage-related assets...shall be determined as provided under the Federal Credit Reform Act...." However, this would be an odd formulation, since the Credit Reform Act applies to direct loans and loan guarantees originated by the government -- not the purchase of market assets.
Regardless of how the "scoring" issues are resolved, the bottom line is that the Treasury would be borrowing up to $700 billion in order to purchase mortgage-related assets--and this borrowing would add substantially to the public debt, and U.S. indebtedness to foreign lenders.
Of particular importance, the ballooning debt would add substantially to annual interest payments by the Federal government. Net interest payments, already nearly $250 billion per year, consume more than one in five income tax dollars. The new Treasury borrowing would take an increasing bite out of income tax revenues--and leave future generations with the tab for this generation's market meltdown.
Key congressional Democrats have already signaled changes they would like to see in the Treasury proposal:
--Senate Banking Committee Chairman Chris Dodd (D-CT) said he would like to add provisions that set tough limits on executive compensation for companies participating in the program, allow the government to take shares in those firms, and create an Emergency Oversight Board;
--House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank (D-MA) said he agrees with the Senate approach and would also lilke to allow bankruptcy judges to reduce the principal and terms on primary residence mortgages; and
--Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Pat Leahy (D-VT) wants to add a provision allowing for court review of the Treasury bailout, which is specifically barred by the Administration bill.
The bailout legislation is likely to be added to a Continuing Resolution that Congress must pass by September 30, 2008 in order to keep the government functioning when the new fiscal year begins on October 1.
By this point in the budget process, most of the twelve FY 2009 appropriations bills should be in House-Senate conference.
However, as reflected in the chart below, the House has taken up and passed only one appropriations bill--Military Construction/VA--and no bills have been passed by the Senate.
This year's appropriations process is in a serious logjam because of two key factors:
First, President Bush has threatened to veto any appropriations bills that exceed his request, and Democrats--as reflected in the Budget Resolution--have called for nearly $25 billion more than the President requested. From Democrats' perspective, if they wait until after the presidential election to make FY '09 funding decisions, they may be working with a Democratic President. As reported by Congressional Quarterly, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) said recently, "I hope we would do a continuing resolution until after Sen. Obama becomes President."
Second, House Republicans have been attempting to amend appropriations bills with off-shore oil drilling amendments, strongly opposed by many Democrats. On June 26, House Appropriations Chairman David Obey (D-WI) suspended markup of the Labor-HHS-Education appropriations bill when Republicans attempted to substitute drilling language for the labor, health, and education provisions.
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(The other $2 trillion consists of entitlement programs--the largest being Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid--as well as interest payments on the Federal debt and other "mandatory spending.")
The total amount of funding available for the annual appropriations bills is determined by the Congressional Budget Resolution. The House and Senate completed action June 5th on S.Con.Res. 70, the Congressional Budget Resolution for FY 2009 (the fiscal year beginning October 1, 2008).
Following adoption of the Budget Resolution, the House and Senate Budget Committees provided to their respective Appropriations Committees a lump-sum discretionary spending allocation (called a "302(a) allocation"). The total allocation for FY '09 was approximately $1,013 billion--about $21 billion higher than the President's $992 billion request (and $24.5 billion more than the President's request when advance appropriations and special adjustments for enforcement initiatives are included).
After receiving their respective 302(a) allocations, the House and Senate Appropriations Committees allocate total discretionary spending among their 12 respective subcommittees. These suballocations are called "302(b) allocations" and determine how much funding authority is available for programs under the jurisdiction of each subcommittee--a key decision-point in the budget process.
The Senate Appropriations Committee approved its 302(b) subcommittee allocations on June 19. The House Appropriations Committee approved its suballocations the week of June 24.
Congress is currently working on two appropriations measures which could be added to an FY 2009 continuing resolution (CR). Likely to piggyback on the CR is a disaster relief bill and at least two economic stimulus provisions.
Disaster Relief.--House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) said earlier in the month that Congress is assembling a disaster relief package to respond to recent hurricanes (Ike and Gustav), wildfires, and floods."From debris removal and housing needs, to the restoration of infrastructure and local economies, the emergency disaster package will cover the range of recovery needs that must be immediately addressed," Pelosi said in a statement. The amount of aid to be included in the disaster relief bill has not yet been released.
Economic Stimulus.--Over the summer, the Senate Appropriations Committee staff began assembling a second economic stimulus bill for possible consideration this month. Congress Daily reports that Democratic leaders are currently considering stimulus measures--including an unemployment insurance extension and additional low income home energy assistance (LIHEAP)--as add-on's to the CR.
Background: The first stimulus bill this year was signed into law on February 13, 2008 and cost $152 billion (HR 5140). The bipartisan package provided tax rebates for individuals and business incentives. CBO cost estimate on first 2008 economic stimulus bill
The House and Senate are still at odds on how to dispose of almost $150 billion of tax measures, including (1) $17-18 billion in renewable energy incentives, (2) a one-year AMT patch, and (3) business and individual "tax extenders."
In a nutshell, the logjam boils down to House Democrats' insistence on offsetting the full cost of tax extenders as required by the PAYGO (pay-as-you-go) rule, while Senate Republicans' threaten to filibuster legislation that offsets the extenders.
The Senate this week will combine all three elements into a single tax "omnibus" where the renewable energy incentives will be offset (under the PAYGO rules), the AMT patch will not be offset, and the tax extenders will be partially offset.
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However, Congress Daily reports, House Democrats are insisting on a formulation that would offset more of the tax extenders. Under the House approach, there would be two tax bills.
--One bill, that would combine the AMT patch and some disaster aid provisions, would not be offset; and
--A second bill, that would be fully offset, would combine the energy incentives and the tax extenders.
Energy Incentives--Senate tax negotiators are working from a bipartisan Baucus-Grassley energy tax package (S. 3478) that includes: long-term extensions of wind and solar energy tax credits; a consumer credit of up to $7500 for plug-in electric vehicles; $2.5 billion in new credits for clean coal facilities; and long-term extensions for credits for alternative transportation fuel. Summary of Baucus-Grassley bill
Tax Extenders--Would continue numerous expiring individual and business tax preferences and incentives such as the widely supported R&D tax credit. For a description of some of the individual and business tax extenders under consideration, see this JCT description released last spring.
AMT Patch.--Relief from the Alternative Minimum Tax is scheduled to expire with tax year 2007. Since the AMT is not indexed for inflation, its reach has extended to middle-income taxpayers. According to CBO, until 2000, less than 1% of taxpayers paid AMT in any year. In 2001, 2003, 2006, and 2007, Congress enacted temporary increases in the AMT exemption amounts in order to forestall the AMT's increasing impact on middle-income taxpayers. However, if AMT relief is not provided for tax year 2008, more than 20 million taxpayers would become subject to the AMT.
Background on PAYGO.--The current House and Senate PAYGO rules were put in place when Democrats regained the majority in 2007. They are based on the PAYGO law of the 1990s, which required that any new tax cuts need to be offset by revenue raisers or entitlement cuts (and new entitlement spending offset by spending cuts or revenue raisers).
However, unlike the PAYGO statute of the 1990s (which was enforced through the threat of automatic entitlement cuts), the current PAYGO rules lack any statutory enforcement mechanism. Consequently, it has been difficult to enforce the current rules, which have already been waived a number of times. Most notably, last year's AMT patch, costing more than $50 billion, was not offset.
The current legislative conundrum began earlier this year, when 41 Republican Senators (the number needed to successfully filibuster legislation) signed a letter opposing the use of any offsets for extenders or AMT relief.
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|Water will form at a low point in the piping system. So if you have a pipe running horizontal and a vertical drop to a work station you will need a low point drain. If you have 1 or 10 low points you will need a drain for each low point in the system. Most larger air systems use air dryers but theses are spendy and not very practical for home shop use. The amount of water in the system depends alot on ambient air temp and how much compressed air being used.
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I have a question regarding plumbing for air lines. Im going to put a 60 gallon compressor in a storage room adjacent to my garage. The room is approximately 10 long by 4 wide. The compressor will be in approximately the middle of the back wall of the room to the left of the door. I was thinking about running ½ copper lines around 3 sides of the top of the room. Essentially the copper line would go up the wall by the compressor, then down to the corner, across the 4 wall, then up the other 10 wall across from the compressor. Then I was going to just return it along the same path a foot or so higher. It would be similar to the setup shown here, except it will travel 3 walls instead of 2. I would really like to keep all of the drains together on the wall beside the compressor, so I was thinking of just putting a drop with a ball valve at the start of it, eg where the compressor ties on and slope the bottom run back towards that drop. The top run coming back to the compressor would also have a drain drop like shown in the diagram I linked. Basically, I would be eliminating the drain drop shown in his section 1, in favor of a drain drop where the piping begins. Would water still drain back towards the compressor against the air flow direction? Or would it be better to put the drain where bottom run ends, as shown in the drawings?
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I am thoroughly impressed with this car. This may very well be the car to lure me away from the Germans. It was a short drive and a mix of city and highway, so here's my impressions:
- Very nice power. There's not as much torque as the chipped 2.0T in my MKV GLI, but the power is still enjoyable
- Handling was EXCELLENT. I fully admit I was expecting something close to what I'm driving now, and it easily surpasses it. Steering was direct, very quick ratio and laser accurate. The car hugged the road on a tight on ramp. This car was truly fun to drive. It was a completely engaging drive.
- Interior materials were quite nice. Buttons and stalks clicked and snicked as well as the Germans. Dash design was nice, but the screen for the radio was on the small side (but is not a touchscreen). I especially liked the cloth used for seats as it wasn't mouse-fur velour or some weird textured stuff. Just clean black cloth with a slight shine and nice red stitching. The silver plastic trim is on the cheap side as are the lower door panels. Graphics in the screen between the gauges are really slick.
- Transmission shifted nicely and struck a good balance between shifting for economy and performance. I'm VERY intrigued to find out how the manual will drive (more on that in a minute)
- Engine noise, while not melodic, was well muted. With just enough noise to let you know what was going on, but it wasn't silent.
- Road noise was virtually nonexistent.
- The suspension is nicely firm yet not at all harsh.
- Seats were very comfortable, rear seat room was adequate.
If I were to fault the car at all, I'd say that the legroom in the rear was less than I expected. Probably on par with my Jetta. It wasn't tight by any means, but for the visual size of the car I was expecting more. I also felt the trunk, while wide and deep, was somewhat shallow. As mentioned above the silver trim is on the cheap side.
Overall, the car is a real winner.
The dealership experience was good, but the salesman and the owner made great efforts to try and talk me into an automatic. I was clear with them that I only buy cars with a clutch, but they thought I was crazy. I'm sure they wanted to get me to buy the car on the lot, rather than ordering/waiting on a manual model. If dealers really want to woo people away from the Germans, they need to be more receptive to those of us that want a third pedal.
Also, they stated that manual transmission models were special order only. I told them it wouldn't be a problem since I owned my car and it was paid for. I'm not sure if they were telling me the truth, or trying to push me into the model on the lot, or that they just don't want to order any manual cars to stock on the lot. And when I say they tried to talk me out of a manual, they REALLY TRIED. I was just about to tell them it's my money and that's what I want when the subject was changed.
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The Home Office admitted the project had been successful but insisted public money could best be used elsewhere. The group was planning a new film termed, "Twelve Angry Teenagers" which dealt with reasons young people carry knives.
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November 9, 2012
Xcel Energy is revisiting its proposed Ptarmigan substation in Silverthorne after a contentious proposal in 1999, filing a permit for the new substation Monday to Summit County officials.
The filing kicks off a review process with county officials with a public hearing to be announced.
"We have 30 days to review the material," said Lindsay Hirsh, planning manager for Summit County. "Our decision will likely not come before that. All dates have not yet been determined for our decision or the date of the public hearing."
Following the county process, Xcel is required to file a permit amendment application with the U.S. Forest Service.
The substation, which is to be completed in the fall of 2014, would help meet the current and growing demand for electricity in Summit County, according to Xcel officials.
The new substation would be located on private property on the north end of the former Heit Ranch, and the company has entered into a conditional agreement for the site.
"Based on our outreach efforts with officials, businesses, community residents and leaders and the public reaction at an October open house, we believe that we have found the best location for our substation," stated Jerome Davis, Xcel Energy regional vice president in a press release Monday. "The Ptarmigan substation will provide much-needed capacity, thus greatly improving reliability and the operations of our systems in the area."
The substation project includes improvements to an existing access road, two new buried distribution lines and an approximately 2,200-foot overhead double-circuit 230-kilovolt transmission line tap that will connect with the existing Xcel transmission line on the east side of the valley.
Xcel is shooting for a 2013-2014 construction period, but anticipates the substation to be operational by 2014.
"We're allowing a little extra time to work around inclement weather," said Mark Stutz, spokesman for Xcel.
The substation will improve reliability of service to customers in the Silverthorne, Dillon, Keystone and Frisco areas, which have shown an increase in customers since 2006, according to Stutz.
"We started to re-energize efforts to get a substation at that location in 2006 because of the growing need," Stutz said. "We are still seeing a 2-3 percent growth in the area on average."
According to Xcel, the new substation will add more power security to Summit County by strengthening the grid.
"An additional substation gives us the ability to step-down power and presents more options for shifting power feeds when there is an outage," Stutz said. "It offers greater reliability. Redundancy is a big thing in our industry. … It's essentially a back up plan – if there's an incident, it allows us to get power on more quickly."
A substation plan for the site was denied in 1999 because it didn't fit with the visual requirements of the Lower Blue Master Plan.
"All of the 21 sites we examined are within the Summit County Lower Blue Master Plan, including all of Silverthorne," Stutz said. "The master plan does not preclude the construction of a new electric substation."
The first proposal initiated opposition from some Silverthorne residents in 1999.
The Lower Blue River Citizens Alliance was formed to combat Xcel Energy's proposed substation sites on the Daley Ranch in Silverthorne. The group has since disbanded.
"We have since looked at other sites for a substation and have come to the conclusion that the proposed Ptarmigan substation in Silverthorne is in the best place, given it's proximity to existing feeder lines," Stutz said. "We have resolved the issues from the first proposal in 1999."
A public hearing on the proposal will be scheduled after the 30-day review, according to Hirsh.


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Not sure about the berries, we never seen it get that big before. The leaves are not sticky or felt like, they're slick on the bottom as on top nothing prickly about them either - hope that helps I'll check out pokeweed. thank you
Thanks all. the plant is surely thriving, I'll add some more pics as the berries ripen. The leaves are very long and narrower than Kingbee's pics and they are not limpy at all.Must be something the birds pooped out and it took. Our feeders are only 20ft away.


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1. The Alps: The Alps expand across the European nations of France, Italy, Switzerland, Liechtenstein, Austria, Germany, and Slovenia; all of which boast beautiful views of these enchanting mountains. Autumn colors scattered on the Alps in France, Italy, and Austria make for an unforgettable honeymoon experience while tours in Austria and Switzerland add some excitement to your trip.
2. New England: From the gold leaves around the city of Boston to the foliage surrounding apple orchards in Vermont, New England has plenty of breathtaking destinations for autumn-lovers. In Massachusetts, visitors can lose themselves in the warm colors near the coast on Cape Cod or through the winding roads of the Berkshires. Maine's variety of vibrant maples and oaks allow honeymooners to enjoy hours of harvest festivals or just take relaxing strolls through its charming forests.
3. Aspen, Colorado: Aspen was named after a well-known tree which turns bright golden-yellow and ignites Colorado scenery in September. With the Rocky Mountains, Twin Lakes, and the Maroon Bells wilderness area, there are plenty of photo opportunities for you and your loved one to cherish for years after your picture-perfect honeymoon.
4. England: Not only does New England have impressive foliage, but so does 'old England.' Hop across the pond to visit castles surrounded by brilliant hues and small villages with crisp autumn mornings. England's Lake District has much in the way of colorful waterfront scenes complete with swans and sailboats. Not far from the lakes is Lancaster, a historic town that's full of natural beauty.
5. Asheville, North Carolina: With temperatures in the 60s and 70s, Asheville is the ideal destination for honeymooners who want to enjoy autumn's beauty but don't want to bundle up too much. Enjoy magnificent leaf displays during the day then cozy up at a sweet bed and breakfast in the heart of western North Carolina's largest city. The Blue Ridge Mountains have one of the longest leaf seasons, so you don't have to worry about missing peak colors- even if your wedding date is set for late October.


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What you need on the trails to get back home
GIT BACK -Making Sure You Have the Stuff to Get Back Home.
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By, Art Art79CJ7 Daniels
Art Daniels takes a look at what tools and accessories can help make the difference between getting home for dinner or spending all night on the trail fixing your rig.
Remember the Boy Scout motto, "Be Prepared?" When you're out on the trail and something breaks you'll be glad you did! I'm always surprised when I'm 'wheeling and come across a busted truck and the owner doesn't have basic tools and parts along to fix it. Having them can mean the difference between walking out and driving out.
This article is structured in five parts: Tools, Parts, Miscellaneous Stuff, Fluids, and Extrication Gear. Each part will be further broken down into three subparts: Basic Equipment, Well Equipped, and Rolling Service Station. The subparts are an arbitrary categorization to illustrate that this isn't an all-or-nothing thing. Feel free to pick and choose from all subparts to customize your Git Back Box to fit your needs and budget.
Let's begin with tools. When something breaks you're going to need them to disassemble, repair/replace, and reassemble. Basic Equipment should include a set of open end wrenches 1/4" through 3/4", metric wrenches 8-17mm, 3/8" socket set, multi-purpose tool (pliers, knife, screwdriver combo), locking pliers, adjustable wrench, and screwdrivers.
To be Well Equipped, add a 1/4" socket set, change the open end wrenches to open/box end wrenches up to 1 1/4", an extra 9/16" wrench, metric wrenches 6-24mm, add deep sockets, axle hub bit, Allen wrenches, Torx wrenches, pliers, needle nose pliers, diagonal cutters, wire crimper, propane torch, butane solder iron, utility knife, hammer-struck impact wrench, hammer, 24" length of 1 1/4" pipe for a breaker bar, T style lug wrench, and jumper cables.
A Rolling Service Station would carry all of the above plus a part retriever tool (telescoping magnetic or grabber), 12pt. 1/4" socket for carrier cross-shafts, cordless drill, pop rivet tool, gear puller, air tools, impact sockets, battery carrying strap, battery terminal cleaning tool, and a welder.
You could carry an entire spare truck, but for most of us that's impractical. The best way to figure out what spares you need is to see what breaks on your truck or similar rigs and carry spares. However, there are some items most of us should carry as Basic Equipment: hoses, several sizes of hose clamps, a length of vacuum line, some brake line, fuses, belts, oil filter, and a fuel filter.
There are repair kits available for radiator hoses which contain a sleeve and clamps. You cut the hose at the bad spot, insert the sleeve, and use the clamps to hold everything in place. A leaky heater hose can usually be shunted or repaired in a similar fashion by using a flush and fill fitting in place of the sleeve.
There are also emergency fan belts which will serve to get you back to civilization.
Well Equipped four-wheelers will carry the above plus a hunk of fuel line, axle and driveshaft U joints, a spare headlight, spark plugs, distributor cap, rotor, coil, tire valve stems with cores, radiator cap, and a starter relay. If you run ARB lockers, you might also carry extra air lines, o-rings, air line couplers, and bulkhead parts.
Rolling Service Stations will carry all of the above plus axle shafts, ball joints, drive shafts, a spare alternator, starter, an electric fuel pump, both pressure and return power steering hoses, oil pressure and water temperature sensor sending units, and a thermostat.
Old parts can be a source of spares. Next time you do a tune-up keep the old plugs and distributor cap as spares. Also remember that you can limp home without items such as thermostats in a pinch.
Under this category you could carry almost anything! You really ought to have duct tape, wire ties, flashlight, bungee cords, WD40, brake/parts cleaner, carburetor cleaner, some rags, and RTV silicone as a minimum.
Other useful items include: 14 gauge wire (better: 12 gauge), solder, heat shrink tubing, electrical tape, wire connectors, baling wire, kneadable epoxy, an assortment of grade 8 nuts, bolts and washers, a variety of cotter pins, a couple of spare lug nuts, a tire repair kit, a can of radiator stop leak, a cigarette lighter, 5'x7' tarp, leather gloves, rubber surgical gloves, goggles, a gallon pail, a turkey baster, ratchet tie-down strap, small 12v air compressor, fire extinguisher, and garbage bags.
Tarp? Turkey baster? Lay the tarp on the ground to keep yourself out of the mud and to catch small parts. The turkey baster can be used to move a variety of fluid, especially gear lube.
The pail can catch fluid you need to drain, fetch water, and store gear. Remember, Tread Lightly! If you do spill fluids on the trail, either absorb it with dirt and pack it out or at least bury it.
Soap, waterless handcleaner, and paper towels come in handy for the eventual clean-up.
I'm not a doctor, and I don't even play one on TV. So I'm not going to tell you what to carry in a first aid kit. I will tell you that you should have one, however! Also, in many parts of the country, carry a snake-bite kit.
In addition to your favorite softdrinks (leave the booze in camp!), bring plenty of water. Your battery may need water, your radiator may need a drink, it works in the washer fluid reservoir, it's useful for clean-up, and it's good to drink. Bring at least a gallon.
Bring along enough oil to change your oil on the trail. If your engine ingests water, you'll have to change the oil and filter. I prefer to carry a 5 quart container of oil rather than individual bottles. I usually carry another quart anyway because my Jeep takes 6 quarts to fill.
Bring enough gear lube to change one differential. (usually 2.5 - 3 quarts). Don't forget limited slip additive if your differentials need it. If your rig is an automatic bring along a quart of ATF. Round things out with power steering fluid and brake fluid.
Did I mention you should bring water? Bring some more. Two gallons is a good amount unless you're heading into the desert, in which case you'll need more!
Another whole article could be written about the gear you need to extricate yourself from a stuck situation. I carry a shovel, axe, 3"x30' tow strap, 20' logging chain, tree saver strap, and HiLift jack. Also, include a clevis to fasten your tree saver to the snatch block.
If you don't have tow hooks or other attachment places front and rear, get them! Be aware that trailer hitch balls are not tow strap attachment points. They weren't made to handle the sudden, violent tugs; the ball will break off and become a deadly missile. Remove the ball and insert a clevis if you want to use the hitch as a tow point.
The Well Equipped four-wheeler also has a winch, snatch block, thick towel or small rug, and anchor. Use the towel to lay over the cable to trap the cable should it break. A snapped cable can tear a human body in half; it's best to let it spend the energy on a towel.
I've customized my Git Back Box somewhere between Basic Equipment and Well Equipped. Excluding the extrication gear, you can probably get basic gear for under $100. But, you don't have to rush out and buy everything right away. Choose tools that can serve a variety of purposes to start out, like locking pliers, adjustable wrenches, and a multipurpose tool. Build your Git Back Box to suit your needs and your rig. Check with your dealer and parts manufacturers for specific tools and sizes that fit your rig.
Plan ahead, gear up, and be prepared!
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Here's a question...where in the hell do you keep all that stuff in a TJ? Sure, if I'm traveling alone it could be done, but since some of the family tends to go with me, that leaves me even less space than in the already tight TJ.
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2) Get one of those reciever racks
3) Get a big plastic lockable box
4) Put everything inside that lockable box
5) Have fun wheeling with the family!!
I have #1 done so far!
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You forgot #6...kick yourself for trying to wheel with a big extension hanging off your rear bumper that you continually banged into stuff with during the run.
Not trying to be a smart-ass...well, ok, maybe a little...but the point is I've always thought racks like that would be good for getting to and from a destination but wouldn't work all that well on the trail. Does anyone have experience we can all learn from on this, either good or bad?
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personally I dont like the added weight on the back for wheeling, if I have enough on the rack I can pull a serious wheelie. (I have put 600 lbs on it before, and yes I know max is 500 but I was in a bind)
The biggest drawback to using the hitch style hanging off is how much it squats your suspension in the rear whe you get over a few hundred pounds on it, you lose flex, ground clearance and departure angle.
overall you are correct though, they are only really good for to and from the destination.
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Discussion in 'March 2007' started by max, Mar 5, 2007.
GoldenState March 5 7:30pm Tv:FSN
Warriors got us 111 to 79 earlier this year. Revenge is a dish best served cold. 100 to 80
Warriors come in on 2nd half of back to back after heartbreaking wade-like free-throw ending 1 point loss to Wiz last night. No b-diddy and no s-jax most likely. He's got turf toe whatever that is. Is that where you stub your toe and a bit of dirt and grass gets lodged under the nail? Whatever. Probably still getting over that brain contusion from the traffic accident. J-Rich playing well again after having all that time off and able to rest the surgically repaired knee. Almost had a TD last night. Pistons run them outta the gym. 98-83
Turf toe is a hyperextension and sprain of the joint between one of the metatarsals and its toe. It's a very serious condition for athletes since it makes them almost unable to accelerate and run normally. Rip has had trouble guarding Richardson in the past, and Harrington could be a problem. Still, without Davis bullying Chauncey around in the paint it will be difficult for the Ws to do much.
yeah i read what turf toe actually was, but was making fun. sounds like a horse racing term.
According to Wikipedia, it got that name from being associated with injuries sustained from playing on artificial turf fields, most commonly among American football players. That's where I remember having heard it before--this is the first time I can recall hearing about a basketball player having that injury. Fortunately, artificial turf fields are mostly a thing of the past in American sports, but I guess basketball players aren't immune from it either.
Wade's injury would have been called "turf shoulder" if this was football.
I thought that was caused by surfing?...surf n turf. then there's Barkley suffering from Turf NO. Ok I'll stop now.
...on fine Corinthian leather. Thank you Ricardo Montalban. No TaShawn...'turf shoulder' sounds to wimpy to play to the media for Wade. I think 'inverted-concussive hyper-extension of the anterior bicep tendon' is more what Stern wants Wade's doctors to say. :nerd2: I'll be happy with a 10 point win tonight.
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I don't get the game on tv, but judging by the box score so far, it looks like J-Max is making another strong case for being unfairly benched when Sheed gets back again.
After playing OK for most of the first half--Lindsey was awesome in the second quater--the Pistons suddenly started sleep-walking with a couple of minutes left before halftime, and it just kept getting worse in the second half. It got so bad so quickly that Low and I were reduced to talking about Manute Bol in the chat even before the fourth quarter. The Pistons' worst performance of the season up to this point had been that game at Golden State, I would say, but this one was even worse, being at home. I'm not going to freak out too much about it, since this is a very atypical performance, but it's definitely worrying that this team is capable of playing such a disgracefully awful game.
The worse performance I ever saw. WHAT A PIECE OF CRAP PLAY BY THE PISTONS!
What is about Golden State that they can cream the Pistons everytime they play them? I guess they are our achilles heel and I'm not going to lose sleep over this game. How bad is it that Lindsey is your leading scorer and the Pistons still lose by a boatload? I thought in the first quarter the Pistons were going to put the whoop on these guys and boy I was fooled. The Pistons miss Sheed no doubt about it, and the Brahma showed why he's still a project in development. On the plus side, SuperDupe got some playing time and Carlos Delfino scored in double figures (took him enough shots) for I think the first time this season. I hope Flip burns the game tape of this one and I'm glad I didn't pay good money to go to the Palace to watch this.
Pistons just trying to help the Warriors pass the Magic for our pick. If anything this game brought out the slow team speed. That happens when you're picking in the 20's
I saw that were we getting the crap beat out of us, so i just relaxed and finished watching Heroes. What a great show.
The main story, a coach without a clue. The Pistons played a set of back to backs Friday and Saturday nights. This is the 3rd game in 4 nights, always a total killer on the legs. What did Flip do about the situation? He played his key guys 40 minutes plus on the back to back, ensuring maximum destruction of the legs. In this game, Flip, for a little while, was coaching a good game. Hunter had his shot going, and the bench was out there keeping us a little bit of a lead. Meanwhile, the starters, who desperately needed the rest, were sitting on the bench resting. Then Flip, for no reason at all, pushes the self destruct button. He puts Billups and Webber back in, and basically lost the game right there. Neither player had any legs at all, and needed to sit until the start of the 3rd quarter. Notice, Flip is totally clueless. He played both Webber and Billups right into the start of the 2nd quarter, when these two, given any common sense in the situation, should have been the first two off the floor early in the game. Third game in four nights. Of course, Flip only started coaching yesterday, right? How would he know such things? Maxiell had a good first half, 10 points. A couple of dunks. One jumper out of the post when they unwisely put a smaller guy on him. Note Rip fed JMAX for a couple of dunks; great job Rip in helping to get this young player in scoring mode. Dyess was about worthless in this one. Hunter ended up with 20, a wasted good shooting night by him. Delfino ended up with a lot of points, but most of that was after the game was decided. But he also had a lot of rebounds. Again, clueless coach could not manage to get Jason Maxiell (called JMAX by Blaha once in the game by the way) and Dale Davis on the floor together. Indeed, clueless coach could not see any reason to get one of his better defenders in there as GS put up 61 in the first half. Seems it would pull some kind of memory string or something. Dale can defend. Play him. In a way, its good we got blown out quickly. At least it did not allow Flip any more room to tear up his stars legs to ensure a quick exit in the playoffs. Dumars please fire the guy. I am not even going to say anything about our starters. Considering the minutes they logged Friday and Saturday nights, anything they did tonight was above and beyond. Dupree got in the game for the last few minutes or so of the 3rd quarter. Technically I guess this was not garbage time. But you know, a real NBA ready player is down in the D league and could have actually used those minutes. Dupree is not part of the Pistons future. Flip Murray also got into the game. Wow, and there is some time Blalock could have used. The time is now to right the ship Dumars. Waive Mohammed and Murray, and start playing the youth. Its still not to late to win it all this year. Just need a coach with any common sense at all, and no problem.
Well a game that realistically was over at the six minute mark of the third quarter and was probably lost in the second, when the Warriors closed the half on a 15-2 run to lead by 5. A lead that was up to 15 in the first 5 minutes of third. Basically the 4th quarter was garbage time. Once again Flips substitutions come under fire. Hunter is pulled after sparking the Pistons in the second and we then start to tank it. Hunter winds up being our leading scorer at 20 pts. Not sure what happen to our staring guards. Rip 2-4 and CB 2-5 shooting.??? Good game from Tay, but Dice was only 1-2 shooting and missed 5 FT's. Delfino played 27 mins to grab 11 points . It appeared to be a struggle out there just get a bucket to fall at one point for him, but then again CWebb seem to be having the same issue. The Warriors shot almost 55%. Some ezy ones and some tough ones. JRich got off with 5 threes' . Still think that Joe blew it last year when he didn't give away Darko for Al Harrington. The only athlete we appear to have ready to hang with a team like the Warriors even the Wiz is AJ and he can't even get into a Piston uniform. I hope we don't give back that great showing in February with a sub .500 month. The way they have played the last 3 games, they wouldn't make it out of the first round. Those victories in Februray and the Wade injusry gave Joe false hope. He still needed to pull off a deal, instead of just listening to the media say that the Pistons were a lock for the east. Even if that were true, they don't appear to be strong enough to defeat the Mavs, Suns, Spurs or Jazz over a 7 game series. Lets face it, if one of our original starting 4 of Sheed, CB, Rp or Tay is out of the lineup, we struggle and the absence of Sheed is apparent in the last three games. Which tells you that if he is missing a game do to a technical suspension, we may have the same issue.
Since the start of this forum there is TWO things that I have only done twice before: 1. left the chat before the end of a game 2. did not finish watching a Piston game BEFORE the Fourth quarter. both were this year and in the point of point number 2, both were against the Warriors. those of you whosay this game meant nothing are not true Piston Fans. There were 17000 + fans who got dressed and paid good $$$ to come out and watch their team give 'an effort" in the Palace tonight. Then there's the other thousands of fans who pay to watch this team over the internet, sattelite or league pass. Then , there are the folks who get paid by the organization to sell popcorn, clean up and sanitize the #$%T that these players leave behind. And they are expected to give 100% effort for their $8.00 per hr. Is it too much to ask for the same in return. This game speaks VOLUMES about the coaching and discipline inside this organization. There is no way you lose to a team that played the night before as you did tonight. No one will ever hear me mention NBA Champion and this 2007 Pistons team in the same breath.... and BTW, this is the worst season of '24' ever! what a terrible night... except for the talk about Star wars, Blazin saddles and the Holy grail. Am I diverse or what....? ...dont make me laff ....
We can't outscore teams. I hope the team and the coach understand this. We can't allow teams from the west to get open look threes. What are we to do with Phoenix then? What bothers me is that we still get these scoring droughts. This coach was suppose to run an offense out of the west. That was the assumption. We are not a sound offensive team. We have no system that I can surmise, no go-to plays, no way to get open looks consistently. Do we ever get a good play from a time out? When we are in trouble, we don't get Billips to shoot as part of a set but instead, he tries to create space himself and hoist a three (usually contested). He has a low percentage shooting the three lately and he is a very good shooter. It is not the loss but the disarray we fall into too often on offense that is worrisome. Why don't our guys use the mid-range game? Neither Rip, nor Chauncey nor as we saw today, Delfino, finish well. Why don't we ever spot up? But things always look worse with no effort. It is a very long season. Yes, we do miss Sheed and this team needs all its guys to compete.
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