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Yep it is a close copy Dan, the Mitz 410 is a close knock off with the exception of the feet being a little longer. Most people swap them but they are a little different.
Welting alot of time exaggerates needle issues even with the right feet.
I tend to agree that if you are a newer sewer or dont want to do some of the other types of bed set ups. The investment of 60 bucks worth of feet, a first sew and a second sew set, tend to be well worth it for the hassles. Just my two cents though.
|His machine is a copy of the Singer 111W, which is the same set-up with the same feet as my Consew machines, and they take a 135x17 needle. Creative is totally right, the wrong needle, loose needle, poorly installed needle, or twisted needle is something else that could also cause the fraying and cutting. His main problem with sewing welting was not using a welt foot or something set up to act like a welt foot.
Sorry to come late to the party, I read most of them but ran short of time.
Heres is what experiance with 1000's of machines in assembly plants has told me. Many sewers on the shop floors call mechanics over the same thing.
Number one cause of cutting or fraying thread in an industrial machine is Needle installed in wrong orientation and wrong length. Are you sure you have the right needle lenght and it is square to the bobbin case and facing the right way? It only takes a few degrees of turn to do exactly what you are saying. Or not fully nested into the needle bar.
Also make sure you didnt put bobbin in backwards. Bobbin should wind out counter clock wise. The fact that the issue just arose makes me fairly certain the needle wasnt tight and moved when welting. And the boobin comments make me think you replaced a bobbin backwards by accident. Let me know if it helped.
In a PM to me, Stitcheroo explained his set-up for sewing welts and everything else to me. He has a right handed zipper foot that has the part of the foot the needle goes down through ground off to let the needle get closer to the welt cord. There is absolutely nothing wrong with this set-up and it would work fine. This set-up would be more beneficial to an experienced sewer. I thought he was advocating modifying a presser foot, which would have been bad advice, but that was not the case. So......Stitcheroo, I owe you an apology. Sometimes I find evil where there is none, and this is one of those cases. I'm sorry.
Stitcheroo: My idea of help is to go into the details of tried and true methods based on 34 years of experience as a professional upholsterer, and explain them the best I can to guys who ask for help. If someone else explains something correctly I leave it at that. If I do something that is a personal preference I tell people that and also tell them other methods or materials that can be used, not insist that my point of view is the only way to do something.
My point is, and always was, you are telling everyone not to use feet specifically designed for specific purposes, when everyone else on the planet doesn't do it that way. I'm sorry you don't like me or my opinion, and I admit I have little patience with people who post things that don't make any sense to me, which comes with being a bitter old man.
One of the problems of this, or any other bulletin board is that a lot of information is passed off as gospel and used by people who screw up something or make their jobs harder because of it. I was trying to point that out without swearing at you or calling you names or belittling you. I guess I don't deserve the same consideration from you. If you thought I was being intentionally rude to you, and I have offended you, I apologize.
|I bought a used machine years ago and it had "homemade feet" on it that got tossed soon after. The guy basically cut the left toe off the presser foot and then ground the side of the needle foot down almost to the needle so that he could sew right against the piping. It worked good enough if you didnt have a welt foot. But still not tight enough.
|No, you haven't cleared up my confusion. I have to admit,you have me baffled. How does a "ground down" (your words) foot of any kind beat a presser foot, which is specifically made to sew flat seams, or a welt foot which is specifically made to sew welts? So if I understand you correctly, you use a modified zipper foot to sew both flat seams and welts, as opposed to feet that are designed to do those jobs? A zipper foot walks to the left side of the needle, which would put it directly on top of the welt cord. Are you saying that your modifications of a zipper foot are better than feet that are specifically designed to do certain jobs? Then what do you use to sew zippers? How about taking a picture of the modified foot so we can all take a look at it? From what I can tell, you have a lousy zipper foot acting as a lousy presser foot and a lousy welt foot?? Am I understanding you correctly? How do you sew anything correctly that way?
I have that same machine and have had the same problem with thread unraveling at the needle. Also, the school I attended years ago had the same machines, and for some reason we could only use "Coats America" thread without having any unraveling problems...like said before, probably had something to do with direction that the thread was wound.
|Stitcheroo: The sewing machine can't possibly sew correctly using a presser foot to sew welts, unless you make major modifications to the foot, and then it becomes a lousy welt foot and a lousy presser foot. There are two types of welt feet. One type has the back left corner cut out of it to make tighter corners. The foot on the left is like that, and I bought it that way. Yes, every upholsterer has run over a welt and ruined a project, which is no big deal if it's fabric or vinyl. If it's leather,ultraleather,ultrasuede, or suede, it is a big deal. Why invite trouble? My welt feet almost never come off my machines, and every sewing room with commercial sewing machines in it that sews welts is the same way.
G'day Sticheroo (Ron),
Thanks for your thoughts. I've been a bit busy of late so I haven't progressed anymore than my last update. I did check the timing, but didn't adjust anything as all was well.
The thread shredding problem has also disappeared as previously indicated. Thanks again to everybody who have helped out with their comments.
On the unrelated issue of Guns in Australia if you want a rundown on the situation here send me a private message with your e-mail addy and I'll respond. In a nutshell Semi-Auto's are banned (1997) but everything else is OK.......for the time being.
Barry, I'm basically going to say what has already been said with a few exceptions. The first being, a welt foot is personal preference. I hate them. In 25 years of upholstery I have never used one other than to try one out for a few days. I hated it the first time I tried to sew a tight corner. I can get the welt tighter with a ground down walking foot and don't ever have to change the foot, but I also run the risk of running over the welt much easier, but like anything else practice helps. Every upholsterer at one time or another has run over the welt and ruined all or part of their project. However, since you've stated that you are a beginner it's probably not a bad idea to use a welt foot until you get a feel for it. I agree with Dan on Taylor's book, it tends to very non-descriptive. Even when you know what they are doing the descriptions don't make much sense. The book is good for pictures and ideas, but lacking in the description. Most books show a nice finished project but neglect to tell the reader the small things that make a huge difference in how the project turns out. As for adjusting your timing....DON'T. If you think you have problems now, just wait until your machine starts skipping stitches or knocking itself out of time because the timing is out of whack. Timing is not your problem. Thread problems are nothing compared to timing dilemmas. From my experience, shredding thread comes from a burr on the tip of the needle, crappy weak thread, a burr on the thread hook, or a groove where the thread has worn on the thread tensioner...in that order. I'm glad you're attempting to sew your project yourself, hang in there, you'll figure it out. You got a good deal on your machine and as long as you keep it oiled it will out live us all. If you need help with your projects, just ask. This is off topic, but you mentioned being a gunsmith, I thought your government stripped the citizens of their right to own guns.?. Take care,
G'day all,
The welt foot hasn't arrived as yet so it will probably come Monday. Didn't have much time over the weekend to try much with the machine in any case as I've been busy with rebuilding the motor for the F350 project. I reassembled the polished foot checked the timing and all is well. I did some practice flat seems on scrap vinyl. Readjusted some tensions and all is well........so far. No problems with threads breaking or unravelling.
So it appears that the problem has gone. My inexperience with the machine making it perform a task it wasn't designed for (sewing welt with a plain walking foot) was the main cause.
Thanks for all your help on this one. I'm sure I'll be back with other questions on upholstery in the future.
The best advice I ever got when I got my Juki LU-562 came from Dan. He told me to have it checked out by a professional, so that's what I did. They cleaned it, tuned it up, inspected everything for wear, adjusted the timing, and gave it a good lubrication for about $90 American. I dropped it off at the shop on Tuesday and picked it up that Friday. To me, it was more than money well spent.
Dan is also 100% correct when he says to throw away all of the thread that came with your machine and get some new thread - including pre-wound bobbin thread. I'm new to sewing as well, and I ignored that advice for about a month and just kept getting frustrated with thread breakage and tangles. I thought it was just the tension adjustments on my machine, but it turns out that wasn't the case. I picked up some #69 Nylon thread at the sewing machine repair shop and tried it out. Talk about the difference between night and day!
The thread, along with a new needle, made this old Juki of mine almost a real joy to use. Now all of my problems are with technique and not the machine itself. Practice is the only thing that'll fix that, and I'm still plugging away. I have so many pieces of scrap canvas, vinyl, and other materials that have been sewn together lying around my garage, it looks like an explosion at a quilting bee.
The secret is to use a new needle and new thread. Wind some bobbins from the same spool of thread you'll be using in the machine, adjust your upper and lower tensions while you sew on some scrap, then go for it. You really won't believe the difference it makes.
Keep practicing with it, and if you have any questions at all, you've come to the right place. Dan, ArmySniper, Horvath (Alan,) - heck, who am I kidding - all of the guys here are very friendly and extremely helpful. You couldn't find a better bunch of people IMHO.
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NIH Toolbox UnveiledNovember 2, 2012
Standardized neurological, behavioral measures to aid clinical research
Unveiled in September 2012, the NIH Toolbox for Assessment of Behavioral and Neurological Function provides common, standardized measurements that will make it easier to pool data and compare results among studies, particularly in large-scale research such as epidemiological studies or clinical trials. It will also make neurological and behavioral assessment faster and cheaper. The intent is to produce economies of time and cost in these types of studies by allowing richer data collection without creating undue burden for study participants.
Six years in the making, the NIH Toolbox seeks to arm investigators with standard sets of instruments to assess cognitive, sensory, motor, and emotional function in U.S. study participants between the ages of 3 and 85. It includes 45 brief, royalty-free measures in English and Spanish that evaluate functions as diverse as language, memory, executive function, vision, smell, pain, strength, movement, and psychological well-being. The entire battery can be administered in 2 hours—a shorter time than for many comparable instruments—reducing the burden on both researchers and participants.
Dr. Molly Wagster, chief of the Behavioral and Systems Neuroscience Branch in NIA's Division of Neuroscience, helped lead the team of 250-plus scientists and staff from 13 NIH Institutes, Centers, and Offices and nearly 100 academic institutions that developed the NIH Toolbox. The principal investigator was Dr. Richard Gershon, associate professor and vice chair for research at Northwestern University's Department of Medical Social Sciences.
"When the idea for this project was first brought forward, we saw the tremendous value in designing a toolbox of standardized measures for neurological and behavioral research," said NIA Director Dr. Richard J. Hodes. "It is designed to fulfill a unique need for a battery of online and royalty-free measures in this area, a resource especially important for the increasing numbers of large-scale epidemiological studies or clinical trials."
Training to administer the NIH Toolbox measures is available for intramural and extramural scientists through a free e-learning module at www.nihtoolbox.org, a website that also includes the instruments, training manuals, and videos. Following the conference, Northwestern University held 3 days of hands-on training.
The NIH Toolbox addresses a common issue in scientific research—the difficulty of comparing results of studies using different outcome measures for similar functions, like cognition. "There's been little uniformity in measures. This hinders our ability to interpret data and to share and integrate study results," Dr. Wagster said. The NIH Toolbox gives researchers a "common currency" for measuring neural and behavioral health and will be particularly useful for large-scale research such as large longitudinal studies, epidemiological studies, prevention studies, and intervention trials, Dr. Wagster added.
NIH scientists also noted that they are particularly interested in feedback about the use of these assessments in patient populations. It might be possible to build on these assessments so they can be used for patients with health disorders ranging from schizophrenia to Parkinson's.
The NIH Toolbox team evaluated more than 1,400 instruments for possible use in the batteries. In many instances, already-existing instruments were included in the NIH Toolbox if they met a number of criteria: available for people over a wide age range; royalty-free; brief and easy to use; psychometrically sound; and applicable in a variety of settings and populations, including people with disabilities, very young children, and Spanish speakers. Most existing instruments did not meet all of these requirements and had to be modified or expanded to meet the NIH Toolbox criteria.
Where necessary, novel instruments were created. "If we developed an instrument from scratch, we went out of our way to develop it against whatever was the gold standard in that area," Dr. Gershon said. A rigorous process of field testing and validation was performed in more than 16,000 people. Norming was conducted in almost 4,900 people of different ages, races, and economic status.
The NIH Toolbox is a project of the NIH Blueprint for Neuroscience Research, a trans-NIH initiative that pools funding and resources to accelerate research on the nervous system. For more information about the NIH Toolbox, go to www.nihtoolbox.org.
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Still working on bolt
That's what I. Thinkin I managed to remove the weld I'm gonna sleeve it with a tube.
I haven't forgot about you, just keep getting side tracked on other things
"Government is not the solution to our problem, government is the problem" Ronald Reagan
Haha it's all good coils, I got the bolt done finally and will post pics soon. Ordered a trunnion and waitin on it to get here.
Did a lot more work and took it out to test fire today. Cycles reliably but one out of about fifteen rounds misfires. I believe I got my firing pin set too shallow. Still need to do a lil more welding and grinding but I'll post pics when I'm not feeling so lazy
Bet it's fun to shoot, I heard they made a conversion kit for them in 9mm.
its a fun little plinker, took 3 months to build but finally finished. They do make a 9mm conversion i beleive it is still available from royal tiger.
finally got some pics uploaded
That came out nice
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After seeing Ellondu's Maple Story Guide, I remembered I had made a Metin2 guide a few years ago. The Guide is for Black Magic Suras.
I edited a bit to fit the new gameplay.
There might be some spelling errors, as this was written 4 years ago and copied from some gold selling sites (which copied it from me), which usually suck at english.
Here it is:
To start out with being a Black Magic Sura, you should train your Sura to level 5 and then talk with Bl. Magic Prof, Ben.
Every new player who chooses Black Magic gains 4 Skill points.
You can choose to add these wherever you want but I would advice you to add them to:
*Darkfire = Unleash a line of pulshing flame, burning all nearby enemies.
*Shadow Bolt = Sends a Dark Hole suching the life force from your enemies.
*Entangle = Unleash Demon Energy to your target.
*Bloodrage = Unlesh Evil Spirits to attack your enemies.
Why I advice this for a starter is because it hits the opponont harder than normal sword attacks so you level easier.
When you reach level 6, you get another skill point (you get one for every level) which I would advice you to add to Ritual of Doom, which is a DOT skill great for PvP.
Then comes level 7, now you will unlock all your skills when you follow this guide and add the skillpoint to Aphotic Shield, it is a shield skill which transfers damage you take to your MP instead of your HP.
Time to Master a skill!
Ok now you have all your Black Magic skills unlocked and ready for use so it is time to level up untill atleast level 23.
When you level up every time until level 23 I advice you to add a point to Ritual of Doom because it helps you in handeling great mobs and is by far the best PvP skill.(mobs in this case being the monsters who move with 3 at the time)
There is a chance that at 17 points in Ritual of Doom it will become Master skill (also called level 2 skill) but if it doesn't, you can do 2 things.
1. You can go to Old Lady and ask for a Stats Reset.
2. You can level up 1-3 levels because at 20 points it automatically becomes a level 2 skill.
Now at level 2 Ritual of Doom will do about 800 damage every 3-5 seconds on your target.
Now at level 23 you can start training in Maadi on Black Wind and Black Tornado monsters. When you reach level 25 you can go to SujinDen and kill monkeys to get a horse medal, which you can give to Stable Boy to get a horse (you can also buy the horse medal from players).
You will have to kill 30 Savage Archers in 30 minutes to get a horse, then talk to Stable Boy, wait 1 day and then you can give him 100k to get a Horse Sword which if you right-click it summons your horse, you only have a 15% chance to summon it, you can make this a bigger chance by reading Horse Summoning books.
Once you reach level 28 go to Northern Maadi and train there on Savage Minions & Infantry's because it gives good exp at that level.
All the skill points you get from leveling after you have gotten Ritual of Doom Level 2 should go onto Darkfire if you want to be stronger in mass-PvM, or onto Shadow Bolt if you want to focus mainly on PvP.
At level 35 you can start asking for BO Parties in the shout chat, as they give the best experience at that level.
BO Parties will level you up and when you reach level 39-42 it is time for your second Master skill, which should be either Shadow Bolt or Darkfire (this is my advice, you aren't forced to choose these skills!).
Now at level 40 you can go get a language ring and do the next Ancient Page quests.
PvP or PvM (PvP = Players vs. Players, PvM = Players vs. Monsters)
Now it is time to chose what direction you will go, the PvP or PvM direction.
When you chose the PvP direction you should start putting skill points in Shadow Bolt.
When you chose the PvM direction you should start putting skill points in Darkfire.
You can also go both ways by putting skill points in Darkfire and then when it is mastered, start putting in Shadow Bolt (or the other way around).
Now you go and level up, after Darkfire/Shadow Bolt/Both I would advice Entangle as it can slow your target, and last but not least Bloodrage.
Skillbooks and how to use them
Skillbooks are the skillpoints after you received a level 2 skill.
So for example to go from Darkfire M1 to M2 you need a Darkfire Skillbook.
The amount of skillbooks needed differs per level!
M1 to M2 requires 1 Skillbook
M2 to M3 requires 2 Skillbooks
M3 to M4 requires 3 Skillbooks
M4 to M5 requires 4 Skillbooks
M5 to M6 requires 5 Skillbooks
M6 to M7 requires 6 Skillbooks
M7 to M8 requires 7 Skillbooks
M8 to M9 requires 8 Skillbooks
M9 to M10 requires 9 Skillbooks
When you reach M10 your skill will turn into a level 3 skill (G) which is the highest level of skill possible in Metin2.
When your skill has reached G you will not need any more skillbooks, but Soul Stones to up your skills.
Tip for getting to G quickly:
Buy from Item Mall: Hermit's Advices because they make certain that reading a skillbook ALMOST always succeeds. When buying all those Advices you can also buy Exorcism Scrolls with your Q Points, which resets the 24 hour time that has to be between reading 2 skillbooks. With this you will have G skill in no time.
These are my tips to be a good Black Magic Sura in terms of stats:
1. Get your CON to 20
2. Max out your INT
3. Get your CON to 40
4. Every level you get 3 Stat Points so use them as followed: 2 STR, 1 DEX every level until you have 60 STR and 30 DEX
5. Now it is time to raise your CON further so do as followed: 2 CON, 1 DEX every level until you have 80 CON and 50 DEX.
6. So now you turn it around and do 2 DEX, 1 CON until you max out CON which gives you 70 DEX.
7. Now you have 90 INT, 90 CON, 60 STR, 70 DEX.
8 Time to start doing 2 DEX, 1 STR so that when you max out DEX you have 70 STR.
9. Now simply add STR until you max it out.
*NOTE: The Stat Build was written 2 years ago. I don't know what the majority of the players does now, but it should still make you a strong character. Also, I am not sure whether these gold selling sites made any editing to this build, so there might be some calculation errors in it.
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The homescreen consists of three panels onto which you can place various widgets and shortcuts. It's not as customisable as some rivals, with the widgets often being too small to be of much use, and there's no provision for folders to store related apps in one place. Swipe your finger across the screen to move from one panel to the next and, rather than tracking your finger as it moves, the interface stays motionless until you've finished swiping (I think I've been watching too much Dora The Explorer). This lack of visual feedback is a perfect example of the way the whole interface doesn't live up to rivals. All that said, you can generally just about get the homescreen set up so you can quickly access all your favourite features quite quickly and easily.
Unlike previous Symbian versions, SMS messages are now conveniently arranged in conversations, though the old-style date order is still available. Once through the very cumbersome email setup, you also have a reasonably competent email client that supports all the usual POP3 (hotmail), IMAP (gmail) and Exchange options. It can handle multiple accounts and it's easy to switch between the two, though there's no option to show both at once.
What really lets the general messaging side down though, is the incredibly poor choice of text input options. As mentioned above, by default, there's no qwerty keyboard option in landscape mode, with you instead having to use a T9 key layout. Qwerty is available in landscape mode but even then it's not a very nice typing experience due to a peculiar layout. Also annoying is the way the typing screen always fills the entirety of the screen, never allowing you to see what's behind it until you exit. The very impressive one finger, swipe-based keyboard, Swype, is available for download, which improves things greatly but isn't my preferred way to type and certainly shouldn't be a necessity as it currently is.
The web browser is another feature that fundamentally gets the job done quite well, showing web pages accurately and providing the usual touch-interface niceties of pinch-to-zoom and inertial scrolling. It also has some useful extras like the ability to find a word on a page. However, the same general interface complaints that plague the rest of the handset apply, with specifics like the cumbersome preview-based history interface causing a lot of frustration. Also, Flash video isn't supported.
Nokia's OVI Maps is on hand to provide sat nav and mapping duties. The interface isn't great, with it not being the most driver-friendly (not that you should be interacting with it while driving, of course) and the style is particularly inconsistent. However, the fact that the maps are stored on the device, rather than needing to be downloaded as on Google Maps, means you never need to worry about getting a data connection to find out where you're going.
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Good review, Ed. The bottom line is that Nokia's hardware and feature set is excellent but they need to up their game on the UI front and attract developers to Ovi. If they can do this then the future is bright. If not...
We'll know better in early 2011 when the first batch of firmware updates come through. Hopefully by then we should also be seeing more of the big boys appearing in the Ovi store although this will depend a lot on how well the S^3 series phones have sold globally in Q4.
Speaking of Dora the Explorer, here in Denmark my kids watch it, it's in Danish with whole lots of english mixed in for 'learning' (rather irrelevent for my bilingual kids), I guess it's from the US where they add Spanish......buy what do they do in the UK?
@Sleeper: Cheers. Thanks for the reminder regards updates - I had meant to mention that in the copy.
@haim: The UK version is exactly the same as the US I think so, yeah, they occasionally throw in Spanish words to learn.
Great review, thanks. I really can't decide between this and the N8 and could do with a few real world comparisons. Battery life is very important to me and I like the fact I can go away for a weekend and not bother taking a charger. Obviously the C7 is great in this respect but how does the N8 compare? Also, it's all well and good knowing the dimensions but how do they both feel in your hand. I've never owned a full touchscreen phone before and I'm always put off by how cumbersome they seem. The C7 looks a little better but I'd like to know how the N8 compares.
@Neil B
I can't speak for Ed but I have an N8 and my boss has a C7. Personally I find the N8 more comfortable to hold (the camera module acts as a nice little shelf that sits on your finger when holding it in portrait mode) and the C7 a little slippy.
Given they're essentially the same phone most things are the same but the camera on the N8 is miles better than the C7 and it has more memory. Both have 1200 mAh batteries and will do at least two days on normal use. That said, if you have a lot of active widgets and use push mail constantly it'll last about a day and half (AccuWeather is particularly heavy).
Correction to your review! USB port in C7-00 is chargeable. At least I do charge my C7 with USB. It just comes with regular ("old-style") Nokia charger with 2mm round socket, but can definetely charge via USB. { http://europe.nokia.com/fin... go to Connectivity section }
@Toifeli: You're right. I just tried a different cable to that provided with the phone and it does work. It's bizarre that the supplied cable doesn't work though (despite it working for data connection). Apologies to all for the mistake. I shall update the article.
@Ed: The Nokia C7 has a NFC chip (will be activated in 1Q2011)
@Sleeper: the C7 has more memory than the N8 ;-)
@swift11: I think he means internal storage. The N8 has 16GB, the C7 has 8GB.
I think the RAM's the same at 256MB. The N8 has 16GB storage as opposed to the C7's 8GB. Also NFC is OK but to be honest I don't think we're going to see any meaningful applications in the UK until 2012 to 2013 so less of an issue to me. YMMV.
I should have mentioned the other important factor about the C7 for battery worriers though: its battery is user replacable, the N8's is not. Plus it has hard call buttons which is something I miss on the N8.
@sleeper: Nand Memory N8: 512 MB, C7: 1GB;
Maximum User Storage N8: 135 MB, C7: 350 MB
@Ed: "The homescreen consists of three panels onto which you can place various widgets and shortcuts. It's not as customisable as some rivals, with the widgets often being too small to be of much use"
Symbian is sooo hard for a Iphone user, lol
I think that the sooner Nokia releases meego versions of phones like the C7 and the N8 the better. I am beginning to get tired of being able to sum up all the latest reviews as "great kit, shame about the UI/os" - and I have always been something of a fan of Nokia!
I have the Nokia C7 and had a good laugh reading this review.
To sum it up: this is like a Mac guy doing a PC review: he just hates the thing but he's doing his job: agonisingly describing all the things that "add to the frustration"...
@swift11: The fact that, by the evidence before me, you commented three times before actually reading my review (and considering the content of those comments), I don't really feel you're worthy of a constructive response.
@Ed: I very much prefer your pre-review:
"Symbian phones tend to be rubbish is all"
To give this phone's features a 7/10 is laughable, at best.
As a C7 user, I could write a review of your review ...
@Ed, I have to agree with swift11 and I have read the review. I'm really fed up with people (not just at TR but in the comments too) slating Symbian. There's a few of us who really rate it. I find iOS really basic and (amazingly) I find it clunky to use. Give me Symbian any day, you can do so much more with it. Reviews will always be subjective but things that irritate you, I see as plus points. I like the fact that Nokia phones have lots of buttons, I will always prefer physical controls to software (and I'm a software engineer by trade). Whereas the iPhone's single button, what's that all about? Apple are too bothered about making the package look good instead of the functionality of the device. This is just my opinion and I realise that I'm probably in the minority. But on the plus side, at least I look a bit different to everyone else when I'm using my phone.
The issue with Symbian is you need to give it time to find out the best functionality out of it.
Sure phone OS users will claim theirs are better than others and show bias esp. when they use other devices, but often they don't give much time in using the other options which is needed to find the best out of an OS like Symbian.
Used the old symbians rather than the touchscreens/S3, but I would like to have a look at the C7 and see how it works and maybe see if the updates next year improves it or not. Some features like Ovi Maps have caching to the phone to avoid data charges which is great, but it does look brutally simple compared to Google maps or iPhone equivalents.
Different strokes for different folks really.
Just out of interest, before I read the rest of the review or any of the comments: does anyone else have any problem with Nokia's Lock sliders? Ed seems to comment on them often, but I've had no problems.
Genuinely interested, as doesn't seem to be commented on often.
I think there's a bit too much information left out in the statement about Folders (in the review). Symbian has had folders for ages, but they're stored in the menu system, not on the home screen(s). iOS doesn't really have any home screens, everything is just there on the Springboard, so it's the equivalent of the internal menus on a Symbian phone.
In other words everything on the Symbian home screens is just supposed to be a shortcut to your application, if you need to organise stuff, you can still do that to your heart's content. This is to stop things getting messy on the home screens. Similarly to the swiping. The fact it doesn't move until you finish swiping is to reduce mistaken swipes. Or say you're reading the header of an email, and about to go to the next homescreen to check FB updates or something, you can start swiping and finish reading, then let go to have to move on.
I know most of you know all that I was explaining above, but I was just trying to point out that it isn't bad design or a lack of research or thinking on Nokia's part, it's simply a design decision.
P.S. I haven't a Symbian^3 device at the moment, so don't know whether it's possible to add a shortcut to a folder on the homescreens or not, but might be worth a try {Nokia were supposed to be sending me an N8 but it hasn't turned up yet :(}.
P.P.S. I believe the C7 also supports miniHDMI and USB OTG but they don't ship the cables in the box.
@drdark: the lock slider is very useful, indeed !
@drdark: Just a quick point, the fact that videos of Nokia's upcoming UI improvements show it having homescreens that do track your finger, would suggest the current arrangement is far from a choice.
As for the lock slider. I just find it very awkwardly positioned - I've often found phones flying out my hand as I try to operate them - the slider isn't conveniently positioned for lefthanded people either. What's more, it's quite easy to knock accidentally, thus inadvertently unlocking your phone.
Yes, you can add shortcuts to folders but it's not the same thing.
A general statement on the comments on why Symbian's great:
Yes, there are some things that are nice about it like the sheer customisability of it. And, yes, some of the UI issues you would just get used to. However, you all seem to be ignoring the other more fundamental failings it still has. The typing experience is very poor, the web browser is still behind the competition, email isn't as slick, and contact management (certainly in terms of social network integration) isn't great. All these things add up and leave Symbian way behind the likes of Android.
I think Ed's review is fine and it's quite obvious that some people didn't read it before commenting. That said, I did and I missed a couple of minor things first time through:
1) Folders can be stored on the homescreens as shortcuts. I do this with my Apps folder on the N8.
2)You can show multiple mail accounts - you just set them as separate widgets on a homescreen.
3) Flash video is supported on the browser - or at least most of it is - the browser has Flash Lite 4.0 built in.
The review is OK because Ed has made it quite clear that Symbian's UI isn't as easy to use the UI of other manufacturers and that is one of the key differentiating factors for TR's reviewers.
Everything Ed says about the UI and experience is true - the default browser is usable but clunky, the keyboards are, again, usable but could be better (not in terms of word recognition, they're really good at that and they learn, but in presentation) and there are too many pops ups (Yes, FM Transmitter, I know I've turned you on, you don't have to tell me again) and inconsistencies (the camera UI is a throwback to S60).
My view is that if they get the UI packages right over 2011 then a lot of that pain is going to go away and we'll have excellent hardware, performance and software but, and Ed is clear about this, TR can only review what they have at the time of the review.
So, as I've said before, for a user the C7 and N8 are 7's out of the box, 8's once you configure them (Opera Mobile, Gravity, etc) and, if the new UI works, 9's or more. I can wait for that but others may not want to. That needs to be taken into consideration.
I like the spring mechanism on the slider. It's really handy and intuitive.
@Ed: I wasn't ignoring the failings, I'm well aware of them.
P.S. Listing UI improvements including "instant swipe" homescreens is actually an indication of them getting fed up with all the US bloggers/reviewers who didn't realise it was a design choice and called the N8 "laggy".
I didn't say it was the best choice. But it was definitely intentional.
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The Canisius College women's lacrosse incoming freshman class keeps receiving honors for outstanding play. Freshmen Allie Stewart (Lancaster, NY / Lancaster) and Megan Maloney (Victor, NY / Victor) have both been recognized for their outstanding play on the field.
Stewart, who has already two All-America selections, four All-Western New York First-Team selections, five Section VI championships, has been named the Tom Borrelli Memorial Award winner as the top senior female lacrosse player in Western New York. During her senior season at Lancaster, Stewart had 55 goals and a team-high 34 assists.
Maloney, who was recently named to the First-Team All-Greater Rochester team by the Rochester Democrat & Chronicle, was named the Daily Messenger's Girls Lacrosse Player of the Year. The four-year starter helped lead Victor to its best season in program history, as the team made it to the state championship game.
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Disciple is an explicitly lazy dialect of Haskell which supports destructive update, computational effects, type directed field projections and allied functional goodness.
1 Disciple vs Haskell
- Strict EvaluationOrder is the default, laziness is introduced explicitly.
- Type directed FieldProjections complement type classing.
- All data objects support DestructiveUpdate.
- The EffectSystem tracks what computational effects are being used in a program, without the need for state monads.
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Once adjusted to fit boots and personal riding style, the straps fit snugly for the rest of the season. Simply engage the highback lever, close the Auto-Release Buckles and off you go.
For fine-tuning on the mountain, the Fastec Prime Alu, Fastec Choice Alu and Fastec Utopia feature extra Micro Pump Buckles. Like classic strap bindings, they offer additional support before a big drop or kicker. You can also slightly unfasten the straps and add a bit more freedom for relaxed pow surfing.
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Santana unravels in fourth inning as Halos fall
Santana unravels in fourth inning as Halos fall
Through the first three innings at Rogers Centre on Friday night, the Angels had Good Santana on the mound. But his alter-ego showed for the bottom of the fourth, giving up five runs to allow the Blue Jays to pull ahead in a game the Angels eventually lost, 7-5.
The loss snapped a four-game winning streak, dropped the Angels to 5 1/2 games behind the Rangers and marked just their second defeat in their last 16 road games.
Santana may not have factored in the decision -- that went to Jordan Walden, who gave up the go-ahead double to Yunel Escobar in the seventh -- but the Angels must be getting motion sickness watching his performance ping-pong.
In Santana's first four starts, he pitched poorly (0-4, 7.23 ERA). In his next five, his performance was strong (2.25 ERA). In four starts after that, he struggled (10.18 ERA). And in two starts heading into this one, he was good again (two earned runs in 17 innings).
Then -- for one inning, at least -- Santana lost his form.
"I have my mind positive," said Santana, whose ERA increased to 5.12 after he yielded yielding five runs in five-plus innings. "I don't know what happened, but in my mind, I'm positive and I'm throwing better strikes right now, knowing that if I make my pitch down and away and they still hit it, that's not my fault. They made good adjustments."
Santana retired nine of the first 11 hitters he faced. Then, when he took the mound with a 2-0 lead in the fourth, things got ugly.
Jose Bautista led off with a double, Edwin Encarnacion got the Blue Jays on the board with an RBI single and Escobar drove him in with a game-tying single two batters later. After a Rajai Davis double put runners on second and third, first baseman Adam Lind crushed a 1-0 slider that was up just a tad, sending it over the 400-foot mark in center field to give the Blue Jays a 5-2 lead.
"Some things got away from him tonight, not only the fourth inning, but then again in the sixth," said manager Mike Scioscia, who removed Santana after he put two runners on to start the sixth despite having only thrown 85 pitches. "But if you look at the way Ervin has pitched his last couple starts, you're seeing a different pitcher. That's what we need to see. Tonight, he just didn't look like he got comfortable in the game."
The home run was the 19th surrendered by Santana this year, which is tied for second in the American League and easily on pace to shatter his average over the previous six seasons (24).
It was the first of two homers on the night by Lind, whose head-scratching offensive struggles recently led to him spending more than a month in the Minors.
"It was definitely a relief to hit a home run and help the team win," said Lind, who gave the Blue Jays an insurance run with a solo shot off Hisanori Takahashi in the eighth. "This is the team that I belong on. I missed the guys for the month that I was gone and it was nice to be back out there mixing it up with them."
The Angels' offense continued to produce, posting a double-digit hit total for the eighth time in nine games. The Halos tied it up on a fifth-inning RBI double by Albert Pujols and a seventh-inning two-run homer by John Hester -- his third of the season and second in as many starts.
But a bullpen that had posted a 1.97 ERA in its previous 44 games couldn't keep the game tied.
Walden, demoted from the closer's role in April and basically barred from pitching with a lead ever since, got the first two outs in the bottom of the seventh. But then he made a mistake to Encarnacion that resulted in a single, walked Kelly Johnson on a 3-2 count and gave up what ended up being the decisive double on a down-the-middle fastball to Escobar.
Walden's outing gave the bullpen its first loss since May 30 and marked just the second time since June 4 that it had given up more than one run in a game.
"I made a couple bad pitches," Walden said. "I made that one to Encarnacion, and then I walked Kelly Johnson, and y'all saw everything else."
But the big concern for the Angels are the last two starters who took the mound, Santana and Dan Haren.
The Angels' rotation has sported the lowest ERA in the AL for most of the season, but that has mostly been in spite of Haren and Santana, who have combined for a 10-15 record and a 4.83 ERA this season.
The Angels are 11-21 in their starts and 32-13 with everyone else.
"We do not consider them soft spots," Scioscia said. "We think they're going to do what we need them to do over the course of the season, and we need these guys. Those guys have gone up against some tough lineups and pitched well this year. They just haven't thrown the ball with the consistency that we know is in both of them. We have every confidence when they take the mound they're going to give us a chance to win."
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I'm just getting started with ESL teaching. I little background. I have a bachelors degree in Finance from Auburn University. I currently work as a car salesman for Hyundai.
Now, my reasoning for this job? I've been to Korea before and loved it. I, like many of you I'm guessing, long for adventure. Plus, there's this girl...
Anyways, I've already talked to a recruiter with ADM and he's told me to expect a phone interview within a week or two.
So, I guess my first of many questions would be, has anyone dealt with ADM before?


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Sometime this week, a group of investors headed by OHL Erie owner Sherry Bassin will make a bid for the Sabres. The Buffalo News reports the group could include former Sabres star Pat LaFontaine.
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a place for zinesters - writers and readers
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I'm curious as to what reasons were given for not using a photocopier, as I've never heard of that before?
For my last two issues, I actually printed ALL of the issues on a cheap Brother laser printer. Time consuming, yes. But incredibly cost efficient.
Here's the post I wrote about it, which breaks down all the per-page costs and such. It's easier just to read this than to reprint it all here:
Xerography Debt, Indeed! (Producing Syndicate Product 13)
So, maybe it's more economical to buy a laser printer than a copier?
Fred is anti-computers (anti-tech too?), he also doesn't use email, the web, tv or I think phones. He's old school DIY, he's published The Match by himself since 1969, it's mimeographed and he sometimes powers the printing by solar.
I think the biggest problem with using a copier is that fixing it and maintaining it is really expensive.
AJ: I read your link. Excellent savings. I'm assuming you scanned physically cut-n-paste masters? But did you have any misfeeds on your laser printer? Have you ever? Do you think inkjet printers are more prone to misfeeds? Or I am doing something wrong? To repeat my statement above, one misfeed can completely ruin the pagination---it's happened to me often, which is why I've avoided doing zines on an inkjet. But maybe a good laser printer would eliminate that problem, or radically reduce the risk.


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THe weather has been a little dry this year. And its getting warmer. The Canadas have left the park by my house, and the Mallards are starting to act like they will be nesting soon.
So I'm working 2 days ago. At one of the local Hotels, I'm not going to tell which unless you PM me and ask nicely. I'm driving through the back area and what do I see?
4 cinnamon teal, are sitting in the stream, or river, or whatever they call it. The drakes are as beautiful as can be. I went all the way to Yuma to shoot mine this year and I see them in my own backyard.
Oh well.
I hope everyone is having a great time enjoying the weather. I'm not. To much work to little play makes Steve a dull boy.


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Who's Going
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London, United Kingdom
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Hey everyone. The time has once again come to choose a side in the long battle for the boarder. This year the Great Lakes Crusaders once again have a young man stepping up to General. His name is "AborTive" and he is a member of Team Legion. I'm helping to recruit for the Great Lakes Crusader side at the Giant Big Game at Splat Tag in Hudson WI on May 6. Message me for details. Together we will attain Victory.
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Kipon develops electronic adapters for Canon lenses on mirrorless bodies
Chinese accessory manufacturer Kipon says it has developed mount adapters to use Canon EOS lenses on Micro Four Thirds and Sony NEX bodies with full electronic control of the aperture setting. There's no word on whether other functions such as image stabilization or autofocus have any chance of working, and as yet Kipon is only showing unfinished-looking examples on its website. There's also no information on availabililty or pricing, but we'd expect it to be very competitive.
Interestingly tho , Birger Engineering announced such an adapter way back in January 2011. And then announced it release later that year at a price point of 700 dollars. http://www.43rumors.com/?s=birger
Now however their website no longer has that adapter for sale, or at least I cant find it.
I would not be surprised if they found it more profitable to just sell the technology
Looks like about there are two models for EOS-NEX, US$160 and US$90.
And a whole bunch of other adaptors.
On Japan's Amazon website :
Other stuff :
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Please wake me up when the adapter is finished and provides everything or more of what the Metabones does already.
The Metabones adapter is only for Sony NEX cameras.
Kipon is announcing they have an adapter for both NEX and u4/3rds cameras. Much larger market.
in april i purchased a sony nex-7 along with a tamron 18-200mm in E mount and sony's 50mm f1.8. they both autofocus and have IS. there are not a lot of native E mount lens yet so i also purchased a metabones canonEF-sonyE mount adapter to use my assortment of canon and tamron lenses in EF mount with. it is very well built with smooth mounts that are not loose and operate as they should. there are no exposed wires as in this kipon adapter. it works very well and the contacts allow the body to set the lens apeture. the button on the side of the adapter works like a DOF in reverse as it open the lens. it does not support autofocus, but since i shoot mostly landscapes on a tripod and the nex-7 has focus peaking this is not a big problem. works for me!
Funny how everything suddenly finds it fashionable to jump onto the NEX band wagon because Canon EOS-M just got announced.
Funny how when these guys announced their EOS/NEX adapter nobody cared:
Haters will be haters....
I have several Kipon adapters and they do make some nice things, but much of it is gimmick.
You say nobody cared, but we announced it on the front page of the site:
True enough, but more about the hate fest on something that hasn't even been released to market that this seems to be generating.
Conurus makes a solid product, and sensible users (people who actually buy the product) don't seem to care if it is Sony, Canon, or Micro Four Thirds.
Seems the hackles are up and people are judging over first a beta product that isn't complete, and second over a camera that has only been in select few's hands.
You say nobody cared about the Metabones adapter.
I regularly read that they are sold out and awaiting their next shipment.
The web site says "through the dial ring or button to control the iris of original Canon EF lens". That alone suggests it may not be as auto-aperture as many have jumped to believe. There is nothing like a whisper of a hint that it supports more functionality. I'm afraid anyone hoping for auto-focus is in for a big letdown. Why dpreview would even bring it up seems odd.
On the other hand, if it has auto aperture and focus I'll be looking at the Nex line again.
The pins are not molded. The PCB looks fragile and could possible break off.
Given they are not announcing a date for delivery, much less pricing, it is very possible what you are looking at is an engineering prototype vs. final product.
I really can't believe exposed wires like we see here are going to be in final shipping units.
I have been holding off for something like this. Holding off buying more Canon EOS dslr bodies that is. The Olympus E-M5 looks a whole lot more attractive now seeing that I have an attic full of EOS lenses and have been waiting for Canon's EF-mount-EVIL-type camera for some time to find that they have been dancing with the fairies at the bottom of my garden dreaming up a new mount system and an adapter on what really is a consumer level body.
Surely there must be directional troubles at Canon HQ - I am sure they could make a professional EVIL-type body for the "naked" EF mount by just putting one of their protoypes (they must have them) into production. But they must be "somewhat scared" that by putting such a camera out to market they would be shooting their dslr lines squarely in the foot.
So we have a "test camera" to see if their loyal customer base will willingly move over to a new range of lenses and lens mounts.
Hmmm...? Volunteers line up.
If that is true, and this adapter supports EF functionality well, it just made Canon EF-M system irrelevant. Who needs an overpriced P&S Canon body when much better choices like m4/3 and NEX are available.
I am not overly excited about the EF-M but remember, this adapter only controls the aperture. There is still the issue of autofocus. The EF-M would still be the smallest body to completely control EF lenses. If it were better spec'd it would be a very useful camera. The lens range is the best there is.
Who need EF lenses where m4/3 have really good ones? panas 20 1.7, panas 25 1.4, oly 45 1.8, oly 12 2.0 oly 75 1.8
Canon cunningly locked off their EF lens focus capability inside their electronics. They also locked out the focus confirm light on everything but their oem lenses - but the Russian invented "Dandelion" fixed that quite a while ago. Now those with a good stock of EOS glass have an alternative use for it - forget the auto-focus (except the focus by wire lenses). Now Mr Kipon - make an EOS-LM adapter and I am all yours.
Please elaborate? I would like this for Nikon mount also but reading that wiki page I don't know the reason why not :(
Almost all Nikon F-mount lenses have mechanically controlled apertures. Aside from the latest "G" series lenses, they also have external aperture control rings that allow easy aperture adjustment. "G" series lenses can be controlled by a fairly simple mechanical adapter which I believe exists in several forms.
The only electronic aperture Nikon F-mount lenses are the latest tilt/shift lenses which are likely very low on the priority list to adapt to mirrorless cameras.
I don't mind those cables as long as they don't come in the way of lens and sensor. this great news for many macro shooter as they can use their canon macro lenses to achieve higher magnification ratios with their canon macro lenses.
It's odd unless you want urgently to make a splash the day after the official release of a competitive product.
Actually why can't af also be included?
Aparently there are many reverse engineering experts out there (tamron sigma tokina)
Especially we are using CDAF here.
It's one thing to make a lens that works with a camera's AF system. But it's another to make a lens adapter that will allow a lens designed to AF on a specific brand of camera to also AF on a different brand of camera using that camera's existing AF programming.
It's quite probable that it's impossible to do.
You know what else works really good for using EF lenses? A used XSi or 30D. Either can be had for about $300 on the used market, which is what these Auto adapters generally go for.
Yeah, but it depends what you're looking for. If you're looking to do video, there are much more useful tools than an XSi or 30d (which have no video mode atall).
This just reflects how poor is the development of the lenses for M43. The reality is lens selection for M43 is very limited, especially the high-end tele lenses.
It's a shame to those camera manufacturers who just know assembling cameras but without satisfying the needs of their customers in the demand of lenses.
That is the reason why do Canon and Nikon can be so successful in acquiring the majority of the camera market. Because they care their customers' needs; they are not just camera makers, they also produce a complete line of lenses for their customers.
Who will buy a camera without the support of lenses? A fool may!
What on earth are you talking about.
m4/3 has the best lens lineup from any of the mirror less camera companies out there.
Panasonic just added 2 new zooms with a constant 2.8 aperture and a couple of other lower cost ones.
Just because some company makes an adapter for use of EF lenses on m4/3 does not mean that there aren't any lenses or missing in their lineup.
Then enjoy your M43!
Who will buy a camera without the support of lenses? Someone who doesn't need the lenses you find lacking. For my uses, I find the selection of excellent primes very appealing. I'm already in Nikon land, but I just picked up a GX1 recently, and I see myself wanting some primes. All the ones I want exist.
If you want high end tele, you're talking large, and there are plenty of excellent Oly long lenses to purchase and adapt with full support of full functionality.
Really, your original comment is unnecessarily whiny and I'm sorry I even responded.
I respect your own opinion. My opinion is just like yours... a small sand in the big ocean of the camera market.
I think he has mixed up NEX system for M43. Or he is thinking of the 3 lenses that the Fuji system has. If not. Then he really should get out more. M43 really has every lens you would need, unless you want a tilt shift lens around 24mm in 135. That one is missing, but thats it.
Canon what?!? Edmund Leong.
For sure u have not seen what they did lately!!! (AND, I AM A CANON USER from the start!!!)
Long lenses??? maybe Olympus have the only "300mm" f2 in production!!! maybe they have the only ever"600mm" equivalente opening at f2.8!!! And theyr quality? JUST TALK WITH ANYONE WHO USED THEM!!!!! EVEN NIKON FANATICS PRAIZE THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I really don't know what you guys are talking about. The OP is essentially correct. There is not much choice of large aperture lenses. Sure, if you are happy with consumer aperture 3.5-5.6 lenses, but for pros a big aperture is a must. The latest from Panasonic is welcome but there is a lot of catching up to do.
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Canon and Nikon are great in producing lenses... good if you have an FF body.
Want a fast (f/1.4) normal for your Rebel? Pay $1500 for the 35/1.4 or go to Sigma. But m4/3 has a 25/1.4 and 25/0.95. The slower Canon 28/1.8 is cheaper, but not as cheap or small as the Panasonic 20/1.7.
How about WA lenses for your Rebel? Only choice is the 10-22mm unless you go third party. But m4/3 has 12/1.6, 12/2, 14/2.8, 7-18/4, and 9-18mm.
Need a fast (at least f/1.8) short tele to do portraits with your Rebel? Get a crappy 50/1.8 or spend more for a 50/1.4. But m4/3 has a sharp 45/1.8.
Nikon is better but still makes only 4 f/2.8 or faster DX lenses; Canon only make 2 EF-S f/2.8 lenses and none faster than f/2.8. Even Sony makes more NEX lenses that are f/2.8 or faster than Canon does for EF-S.
The m4/3 system was announced on August 5, 2008.
Canon released their first DSLR in May 17th 2000
The EF lens mount was released in 1987 and the EF-S mount in 2003
Nikon's first generation of digital SLRs started with the D1 of 1999.
So we can probably understand why Canon and Nikon have more lenses as they've been producing them longer.
See you back here in, say, ten years and if the system's still around we can see how many lenses they've produced.
At every CANON's release I see hundreds of posts that seems to me like the doomsday for CANON. But it remains at the top and its products are generally a huge sales success. Funny that I don't see this in others manufacturers' forums.
There is already an adapter available, Metabones EF to NEX but 400$ though
Yes - we covered it in January:
Seeing how the images appear to be of unfinished versions, were these put up in rush as Kipon now fears these won't sell as there's now an EOS-M ?
They rather hope to triple their sales after seeing a miserable fail Canon made, not even saying about grossly overpriced adapter eosM got.
Seems like people at Sony and m4/3 are equally as happy and will try to bite a cake as well (just wait few days and most likely we'll see some rebates for m4/3 or NEXes - aimed to lure the undecided, if there are any left)
This is the EOS-M killer!!
This is exactly what is needed by all those Canon owners who have been waiting for a Canon mirrorless camera and who are now giving up on Canon releasing anything worthwhile any time soon.
This Kipon adapter will allow all Canon EOS lenses to be mounted and therefore also stabilised on the Olympus E-M5, since a builtin IBIS should work with any lens.
Who is still going to buy the Canon EOS-M at $1000 apparently for the camera plus the Canon adapter now? How can such a basic camera sell? It was released apparently to target Canon owners who have Canon lenses, since no new buyers will buy such a camera, but this adapter is going to make it very hard to sell even to Canon owners.
Sergey: I can't disagree with you. I have a number of Pana. micro 4/3 and use all manner of lenses on them, mainly "M" mounts. I stopped using EOS with the 40 D and was hoping for a large sensor Canon that wd make sense. It appears that the EOS-M won't even be able to take an access. v/f- I don't understand these manufacturers. They wil take a loss on this one.
Darn right!
A. This just rendered the M fiasco useless
B. C'mon Canon, a $$$ adapter for your own products (with sllow phase AF) for your own product. Jeez!
c. Did they get that Pentax K-01 designer to do this one, or his cousin?
The only hope for such a basic but expensive camera (this EOS-M) is that some Canon owners might buy it to try to use with their lenses. Now, with this Kipon adapter, they can do the same on a NEX7 or E-M5, and have EVF plus many other advanced features. In the case of the Olympus E-M5, the price difference between it and the Canon EOS-M is easily justified by the EVF alone, but there are also the weather proofing, the super fast AF, the IBIS, and the significant number of M43 lenses.
For those who have to have APS-C sensors, even though the E-M5's IQ has been found to be very close to the best of APS-C DSLRs, there is the NEX-7 to use to mount Canon lenses on and get more advanced features.
So, yes, this adapter is going to kill the EOS-M. This is not sensationalism. The EOS-M is dead!
"Anyone who understand the benefit of larger sensors especially when using lenses designed for even larger (FF) ones" can instead buy a NEX, like the NEX-7, and enjoy the use of a great EVF, or its other nice features, like focus peaking, etc. and, most likely, better IQ than the EOS-M.
There is no reason to buy the EOS-M. None, Zilch, Nada, Rien, ... if this Kipon adapter works.
What it does is adjust the iris. You still have manual focus. You can already get a old FD lens with iris ring and manual focus to mount on your NEX body. That has not killed Canon, why would this hurt them? Their big profit is in the lenses.
no offense .. but the of Olympus wasn't 4/3's and a 2x cropping factor you may have a point .. but you really dont.
heck, the reason I don't have a OM body right now is because I think it's a travesty that a wonderful 21/3.5 zuiko basically becomes a normal lens with it.
secondly .. no AF most likely.
thirdly .. who's paying 1000 for a EOS-M?
"if this Kipon adapter works"
Who thinks it is going to provide full AF/AE performance with Canon's EF lenses? U gotta kidding me!
My bet is that this adapter will cost half as much as the EOS-M.
Ultra-telephoto + Micro 4/3
So now they only reason to buy an EOS-M over NEX or M43 is brand loyalty.
well for NEX it would be brand loyalty, M43 would be size of sensor.
No, I'm seeing that NEX, though not really good, is still better than Canon EOS-M. Canon has just started its first step. The immature line just can't compete with the NEX. The NEX is more complete than EOS-M, though not really good. Control wise, I don't see this camera being better than the NEX.
Another great advantage of the NEX is the sensor. It's seriously just for brand loyalty.
And for those talking bout' wanting Canon lenses to autofocus, I don't see a real reason for an adapter for the lenses. The Canon lenses aren't miracle lenses and Oly, Sony and Pany lenses aren't shitty.
The article is unsure about AF so we'll have to wait and see.
In the meantime some people may hold off buying the Eos-M until they know for sure.
Awesome... if it works. I'll gladly dump my Canon camera bodies in exchange for the OM-D or NEX. :)
The day after Canon announces the EOS-M with adapter for EOS lenses Kipon announce an adapter for mft and NEX camers for Canon EOS lenses.
Game on!
Well, the EOS-M AF is not winning any races either.
The OM-D sensor has better DR and cleaner ISO3200 than my 7D.
Finally, let's not forget IBIS and EVF.
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Still, there is something between the Cubs and Cardinals that will always be special in the eyes of the respective fan bases.
Still, there is something between the Cubs and Cardinals that will always be special in the eyes of the respective fan bases.
By the way, how many pages did you have to go through before you got to the thread complaining about the Cardinals' bigger rivals the Mets or the Astros?
EDIT: The only real hate I see towards the Reds is Brandon Phillips and even that's kind of clamped down in recent years. I do see at times random shots at Dusty Baker but I see that here as well.
I agree the Cardinal fans don't hate the Reds the way the Reds hate the Cards. But that's only because the Cardinals are much easier to hate. Reds fans don't hate the Cardinals because they are rivals, they hate them because Brandon Phillips was right
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Meh. I think the Cards offense has some good young players. Beltran is getting old and showed it in the second half last season.
I'm not sold on all of these young Cardinals pitchers. I think the 2013 season will see alot of adjustments from other teams, and we'll see if the young Cardinals pitchers can adjust.
I think on paper both the Cards and Reds starting pitchers and position players are fairly equal. It's Jocketty's ability to provide depth that will make the difference.
"I can't take this homerism anymore." - 10xWSChamps, August 11, 2010. A Cardinals fan having a problem with all the homerism on Redszone. Classic.
"Man do I miss the days where were didn't need a calculator and an encyclopedia of baseball metrics to enjoy a baseball game ... - MikeS21" - 8/2/12 game thread
I can't say I've had any real hatred of the Cardinals myself outside of the past few years. Carpenter/La Russa/Molina et al. have made for a very easy to dislike group, but since a couple of them have already faded away I imagine I'll go back to being ambivalent about them again within a few years, once the team has become a completely different group. Heck, I still have more hate for the Dodgers, and they haven't even been in the same division for ages.
I lived in St. louis for 9 years. The only team that the cardinal fans HATE year in and year out no matter the record is the New York Mets.
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Objectively speaking, if Carpenter is a "humongous jackass" then so is Phillips. Every MLB player poll has him as one of the top 5 most annoying players in the game. Funny how Carpenter never makes that list.
"Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."
Birdsonthebat has one thread about chapman to the roatation that hasn't been discussed in weeks and clubhouse always gives every team in the central their own thread for every season. thats it. There are so many more on redszone about the cardinals
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I can't find a single poll, anywhere that has Phillips on the list of most annoying or hated players.Who is the biggest trash talker?
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Nyjer Morgan, (Brewers), 17%
Chris Carpenter (Cardinals), 14%
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Phillips and cueto made the BR article. no cards did thugh
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Dear Lucy,
You have helped me a lot before, but I need your help again !
I am teaching Oral English to English Majors, 1st years at university, central China. The classes are for 48 students. Chinese students learn English from a very early age (about 5 years), and so are quite familiar with the language. So these students must have been learning for at least 10 years. In reality Chinese students have poor listening and speaking, because they spend much of their school study on reading and writing.
I have been given a book, but my (and I think the students) opinion is that it is boring. It is a lot of reading, which I think the students can practice in their two other classes - Intensive and Extensive reading. The book has role plays, but just for two people.
So I have tried to make my classes fun - talk about films, singing a song, show photos. However, one student said to me that the lessons are fun, but he never learns anything, and then proceeded to give me tips on how to teach!!!!
So I feel a bit lost unfortunately! I want to ask you about 1. Teaching style,
2. Vocabulary or constructing phrases
1. I want to just talk about teaching style. Splitting into groups/talking to the whole class/or traditional lecture? When I did my TEFL course, the suggested teaching style was split them into groups. Whilst this is feasible in a class of 20, it is less appropriate for a class of 48. So the best I can do is eight groups of six. Even then, it seems there are just too many students to keep track off. Should I get one student per group to speak, and go around to assess them ?
2. Teaching vocabulary/phrase constructing - is this my responsibility in oral English? Or should I just give them scenarios to create and then teach them how to say it? Do you have any useful links to help me here ?
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Rockhampton Bishop shocked by Pope's departure
12 February 2013 , 11:52 AM by Kallee Buchanan
Like many Catholics around the world, Central Queensland Bishop Brian Heenan was shocked to hear that Pope Benedict XVI was resigning.
And little wonder, it's the first time in 600 years it's happened.
But it does have real meaning for Catholics in this region as well.
I asked Bishop Heenan what his reaction was to the news.
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