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Audible was thrilled to discover this genre-busting alternate history of World War II by an exciting new writer, Ian Tregillis.
It's 1939. Raybould Marsh is a British secret agent in the early days of World War II, haunted by something strange he saw on a mission during the Spanish Civil War: a German woman with wires going into her head who looked at him as if she knew him. It wasn't his imagination; the wired woman can see into the future and use her knowledge to twist the present. In fact, Marsh soon discovers that the Nazis are running missions with people who have special powers – a woman who can turn invisible, a man who can walk through walls, and the woman Marsh saw in Spain.
Marsh is called upon to stop them from aiding the Nazi expansion. He rallies a group of secret warlocks in Britain to hold an impending invasion at bay. But magic always exacts a price. Eventually, the sacrifice necessary to defeat the enemy proves as unthinkable as surrender. Alan Furst meets Alan Moore in this wildly entertaining epic of supernatural historical fiction. Bitter Seeds portrays a twentieth century much like the one we knew, but also profoundly different.
Also listen to the next book, The Coldest War.
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"A major talent.... I can't wait to see more." (George R.R. Martin)
"Debut novelist Tregillis breathes new life into alternate military history with this fun take on WW II." (Publishers Weekly)
"Magic and mad science mix in this entertaining alternate history of WWII, with the warlocks of Britain uniting to battle German forces with super powers. A striking first novel." (Locus magazine)
"Tregillis writes and plots beautifully. The characters - twisted German psychics, bitter warlocks, the brutal calculators of the British intelligence apparat - are complex, textured, surprising. The physical descriptions are wonderful. And the plot is relentless, a driving adventure story with intrigue, battle, sacrifice, and betrayal." (BoingBoing)
"WW II alternate history: X-men vs Warlocks"
One of my first alternative history (audible) books. Saw this in hardback, was waiting for the paperback - but to my surprise (even better) it's on Audible!
Basically, the British are losing the war - the US did not join in the war and the Germans have created the ??bermensch (Superman/women) - sociopathic orphans taken from WW I, and endowed with X-menesque power by mad scientists.
In response, a desperate Admiralty establish the Milkweed organisation - British warlocks that use magic to fight back.
I believe this is Tregillis' first novel - stunning piece of work and fortunately there's more to come as this is the first book of the Milkweed Triptych (trilogy).
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"WWII, Now With Superheroes and Wizards"
First off, I feel inclined to note that I gave the novel 3 stars, but I really wanted to give it 3.5 stars. I enjoyed it and would recommend it to others, but I just didn't love it.
I decided to listen to this after hearing rave reviews from Tom and Veronica on the Sword and Laser podcast. They really talked it up and it had a pretty interesting premise so it felt like a no-brainer. To give a little background, Bitter Seeds is an alternate history set in Europe during World War II. In this retelling however, the British employ warlocks and the Germans basically have soldiers with superpowers.
Overall, I did enjoy it, but it definitely left something to be desired. The story wasn't bad nor were the characters, but they also weren't amazing. I never felt that invested in the characters (on either side). They were realistic enough, but were just somewhat flat. It's hard to describe, because they weren't poorly written or unlikeable…they were just kind of bland.
My biggest gripe with the story was the ending. I don't want to spoil anything, but let's just say the climax fell short. I wanted big explosions and high excitement–it seemed like that's where things were going–but that's not how it played out and I was a little underwhelmed.
My only other comment is about the narrator, Kevin Pariseau. Mr. Pariseau has narrated a lot of novels and I expect that he's pretty well respected, but he just didn't feel like a great fit to me. Most of the novel takes place it the UK and it just stands to reason that a British narrator would have been selected. The accents of the characters would have been a bit more convincing and I think it would have increased my enjoyment.
That said, it was a pretty fun read. It's not very long either so it's no major investment.
"Not what I expected, but still worth the listen."
I don't think I would listen to Bitter Seeds for a long while. I was expecting a golden age/pulp hero type of setting with super powers and magic based on the summary. Instead it was a horror story, and a darn good one.
Yes, the end of the first novel is a cliff hanger; however, I need some more lighthearted fair before diving back into the next novel.
I don't have a particularly favorite scene, however, Ian Tregillis did a great job of bring the story right to the brink of being too gruesome or callous (in terms of the "reality" of war and the supernatural) without crossing over, but not going into actual details so my imagination took over many times through out the story.
What price for victory?
Kevin Pariseau did a good job of bringing the different characters to life, it was easy to tell which character was speaking.
"very intriguing"
The story is complex, and may require more than one listen, many story lines are woven into one all-encompassing plot line.
The concept: it's fascinating. Considering that Hitler was such a fan of the occult and science...this story fits very well into the 'what if' scenario for the SS and what Hitler could have / might have done if he'd had the chance.
The description of the Taragon Film; where all the battery charged students are displaying their abilities.
It made me think hard about what levels of technology we have today versus what was cutting edge in 1940-41...if this is 'what might have been' then what are we headed towards today?
If you're not a fan of the WWII genre or steampunk, or accustomed to hearing German spoken/written, then you may have a hard time understanding sections of this book. However, don't pass up a great tale just because you may not know the language. Tregillis has woven a fascinating tale.
I love to read, but I am time-limited. Audible allows me to keep up with all my favorite authors while on the hiking trail. Thanks, Audible!
"An ingenious and intuitive reinvention of WW II"
'Bitter Seeds??? takes us to an alternative World War II in which the Allied forces are developing demon weapons and defenses, and the Axis Forces are developing paranormal weapons and defenses. While this type of arms race is not new in literature, Ian Tregillis??? version reads more like a thrilling history book than fiction. Tregillis really has done his homework, and this story has the gravity and intrigue found in the real-life arms race to create an atomic bomb. This is an amazing book that captures the excitement and dread of an era that still shapes our view of the world today. I highly recommend it.
"Dark but Excellent Book"
This historical fantasy takes place during World War 2, with a mystical twist. Tregellis doesn't pull any punches, taking the book and many of its characters to dark places. The war is horrible and we find that even good people can do horrible things amidst so much suffering. I'm looking forward to listening to the rest of the series.
"Ubermen, Warlocks, WWII and Spy's? Yes, please!"
I've been eyeing this title for a while and finally went for it based on other reviews. Omg, such a good book and so well narrated. I purchased the next book before I was done with this book.
Intriguing look at history, and people in general. You see the decisions everyone makes and the consequences they have to live with and it changes them. Plus, the whole take on warlocks is fascinating, their language and how they negotiate.
All around solid writing, characters , plot, and ideas. I thoroughly enjoyed it and can't wait to dive into the next one.
"Dark & Engrossing"
Bitter Seeds was a remarkably fun read. Taking place from the years 1919-1941 the book describes an alternate history in which England finds itself alone against the Nazi onslaught, made worse by fantastic and dark research on both sides.
The characters in this work are compelling and flawed, and most importantly believable, despite the fantastic elements of the story (super-powered Nazis).
The narrator does an excellent job.
"Great story, OK narrator"
YES! There is a lot in this book, and much I missed while listening to it while I worked doing yard matenance. I have already started a second time, and it is better the second time. This book will keep you going for a while!
None. This book is one of a kind. The closest you could get would be something like Harry Turtledove's "In the Presence of Mine Enemies", George RR Martins "A Song of Ice and Fire", and the "Fantastic Four" and mixed it together. Absolutely inspired.
Yes, but not a book with a lot of dates or foreign words. I tends to mispronounce foreign words and says the dates weird, saying one September, 1940, instead of first of September, 1940. He does, however, great accents for the characters and is very clear and pleasant to listen to.
Both. The author does a great job of making you care for the characters, even though you hate some of them. Even when you know something is going to happen, it still ends up as a surprise and leaves you with that reaction.
The story itself is one of the most original stories I have heard recently, and the writing style itself is great. The author does a great job of making the process between switching characters very clear and easy to follow. The narrator is great with doing the multitude of accents, even though he does occasionally mispronounce a name or word, but this is because I am a history junkie and am a fanatic about pronunciation, so this may not bother someone who is particular about these things. The narrator also pronounces the dates weird, saying one September, 1940, instead of first of September, 1940. These aside, however, this is one book no one should pass by. And, while you're at it, get the second one, "The Coldest War", because you'll want to start that immediately after finishing this one.
"Really enjoyed it"
The narrator made some of the characters sound a bit over the top in the stereotype department, but overall it's a great story.
"Good story, not so good narration"
It is, as the critics' reviews say, a good story that kept me listening... it also kept me grinding my teeth at the narrator's poor grasp of accents. Lorimer, a Scot (who, thankfully, has little to say in the book) does not have a Scottish accent, rather, he has a wandering Irish/North Country hybrid accent that left me wincing. The Germans all speak with preposterous mock German accents and Olivia, wife of Marsh, is voiced with a strange received English plus occasional hints of Mockney even though she is described as having a common accent.
If you can ignore all this (and I did, after a struggle) then it's a good audible book.
Narrators really should be discouraged from giving accents to characters unless they know how to do them properly.
"Story is ok - narration is painful"
I can only agree with the other reviewers.
Why on earth, when a book is set entirely in Germany and England, would they choose an American to narrate it? He simply cannot do the accents!
Not only is this painful on the ear at times, but also, when involving converstaion between two of the main male characters, it becomes impossible to tell who is supposed to be speaking, because the accents vary so much.
The plot is interesting and the story well told - with the exception that the Author does tend to get over impressed with his own eloquence when describing the esoteric. His descriptions of the awe-inspiringness of his super-natural beings do tend to drag.
All in all, I shall probably get the sequel – but I will wish that someone else was reading it.
"Good story, but hard to bear the narration"
I downloaded this because someone on a podcast I enjoy recommended the sequel. The concept of this book is interesting and I like that it's not your usual black-and-white WW2 story; everybody's doing horrible things, for different reasons.
But I have to agree with previous comments, and comments on the sequel, that the narration is just not good. Never mind the atrocious accents (the German ones are downright offensive), it's as if the narrator isn't able to "read ahead" to make sure he pronounces a sentence so that the full stop is actually at the end of it, and not somewhere in the middle. "Marsh opened the gate. To the garden." It is absolutely annoying. Unfortunately, I am now committed to listening to part 2 as well, but I probably won't enjoy it very much!
Recording these is probably quite expensive, so I am guessing the chances of giving this one a do-over are fairly slim.
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I'm attending the Portland Zine Symposium 24 hour zine challenge in July 21!
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Pete's Mini Zine Fest on 7/21 and a visit that weekend from my best zine girl.
We'll do something at Barnard to celebrate International Zine Library Day, also 7/21, but I don't know what yet.
IZM will end with the Zine Librarians (un)Conference in Pittsburgh 7/28 and 29.
Instant conversion to British Standard Real Time Measurement: 7/21 = 21/7, 7/28-29 = 28 - 29/7. So July's international zine month huh, great!
We are working on planning some exciting events at the Portland Button Works shop!
I'm going to make my first ever 24-hour zine! I've been meaning to do it every bloody year, but every time July comes around I seem to be too busy to put time aside to actually make a zine!
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i had no idea.
i was actually going to take a break from being so zine obsessed, since i am taking this fast-paced summer school class. i guess, instead, i will make some zines?
Derek and I just published a new episode of our Nobody Cares About Your Stupid Zine Podcast! We talk a lot about International Zine Month and what we have been up to for the past year.
I printed a a little poster with my Risograph of 31 zine activities for 31 days of International Zine Month! They are available for free in our Portland Button Works shop and come free with every online order at Portland Button Works(along with our PBW Quarterly zine) OR you could get the PDF and print your own here.
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I'm making a 24 hour zine! (And finishing my half of my first ever split zine!)
Happy first day of International Zine Month!
here we go! i'm super excited. international zine month rules! i'm working on collating & assembling more copies of sub rosa #7, the sobriety issue. i'm also working on issue #8 which is way more upbeat & positive (not that getting sober isn't positive but getting there wasn't). i'm also headed to dc for the zine fest & portland in august for the symposium. i'm helping to organize philly's first feminist zine fest in august! it's a busy, busy month!
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PITTSBURGH — Homer-Center's Heather Paynter raced to a second-place finish to highlight the local contingent at the Pittsburgh Central Catholic Cross Country Invitational on Saturday.
Paynter, a junior, recorded a time of 20 minutes, 39 seconds in the Division 'B' girls' race.
Blairsville's Taylor Koches (22:40) took 28th place, and Allyson Smathers (23:17) finished 35th out of 79 runners.
The Blairsville boys' team earned seventh place out of 13 teams with 182 points.
Austin McLean (18:26) led the Bobcats with a 17th-place finish in the boys' Divison 'B' race.
Also competing for Blairsville were Derek Rocks (18:30, 20th); Max Hrebik (20:06, 49th); Ayrton Lamantia (20:12, 51st); Jared Uncapher (20:44, 57th); Zach Plunkett (22:26, 78th); Robert Bell (22:38, 81st); and Josh Ostach (23:43, 87th). There were 98 runners in the boys' 'B' race.
Blairsville, which finished with an 8-0 record in dual meets, travels to IUP for the Indiana County meet Thursday.


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BREAKING: Jesse Jackson Jr. to resign within the hour, according to report
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The Chicago Sun-Times has the Thanksgiving news dump from the troubled Illinois congressman:
U.S. Rep. Jesse Jackson is expected to tender his resignation from Congress within the hour, a source close to Jackson said Wednesday.
Jackson will hand in his resignation to House Speaker John Boehner, the source said.
Jackson had planned on a press conference to announce his resignation but was not able to bring himself to speak about it because of his illness, the source said.
The announcement comes after mounting pressure faced by Jackson as federal investigators appeared to widen their ongoing investigation into the congressman's activities.
Jackson had just been re-elected by a large margin, but has been MIA on the Hill since about June and in and out of the Mayo Clinic, citing bi-polar disorder.
The Tribune names its source— Jackson's brother, Jonathan. Jackson is under investigation for misusing campaign funds, and there's this:
Rep. Jackson has been under investigation by the House Ethics Committee for alleged improprieties related to his bid to win appointment in 2008 to the Senate seat that had been held by President Barack Obama. A Jackson emissary is alleged to have offered to raise up to $6 million in campaign funds for disgraced former Gov. Rod Blagojevich in exchange for the governor appointing Jackson to the Senate seat.
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VESTAL, N.Y. — The Canisius women's basketball team shot 52 percent in the second half and pulled away with a 66-53 win over Binghamton University in the Events Center on Tuesday night. The Golden Griffins improve to 3-1 on the season.
Junior Kayla Hoohuli led Canisius with 17 points, including 4-of-5 on 3-pointers. Sophomore Tiahana Mills had a career-high 15 points to go along with five rebounds in a return to her hometown while sophomore Crystal Porter scored a career-high 14 points.
"Binghamton wanted to take away some of our players who had been scoring early in the season, and I was glad to see we were able to score through other options," Canisius coach Terry Zeh said. "It was a great night for Jen and Tiahana in their hometown in front of a great crowd."
The teams played the first half at a deliberate pace, with Canisius breaking open the game by holding Binghamton scoreless for more than five and a half minutes. The Griffs scored seven straight points, getting four points from senior Jen Lennox and a 3-pointer from Jen Morabito, to take control of the half as Canisius went into the locker room with a 29-23 lead.
The Griffs shot the ball well to start the second half as they made five of their first seven shots, including three of four from behind the arc, to extend the lead to as many as 12 points early in the half. Binghamton was never able to get closer than eight points the rest of the way as Canisius held a comfortable lead throughout the entire second half.
Canisius shot 44.9 percent from the floor, shooting above 44 percent for the third time in four games on the season. The Griffs drained seven 3-pointers and shot 75 percent from the free-throw line.
Sherae Swinson led Binghamton (0-3) with 17 points while Vaneeshia Paulk had 11 points.
Canisius plays its next four games in Western New York, with three of them coming in the Koessler Athletic Center. The Golden Griffins host the University of Akron on Friday, with tipoff in the KAC set for 7 p.m.
Notes: Canisius and Binghamton for the eighth time, with Canisius now holding a 6-2 lead in the series... Hoohuli drew her first charge of the season and has now drawn 28 in her career... Hoohuli matched her career high with the four 3-pointers, recording four 3-pointers for the seventh time in her career... Porter scored in double figures for the second time in her career... Morabito and Mills played in their hometown of Binghamton after playing at Binghamton High School before attending Canisius.


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T-Birds Run Away with 101-44 Win Over Arizona Christian
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"I thought we did a really nice job on both ends of the floor, obviously we did a great job on the rebounding end," stated SUU head coach JR Payne. "I was really pleased with our attention to detail, which is something we have been talking about all week, and being disciplined and taking care of our own selves."
Senior center Carli Moreland scored six of the Thunderbirds first eight points, but Prayer Branhman knocked down a pair of threes to help the Firestorm tie the score up at 8-8 after four minutes of play.
Marquelle Funk then came off the bench for a quick layup and three from the corner to put SUU out in front by five and Moreland went back to work inside for six straight points to spark an 18-0 run that pushed the advantage to 33-13.
Branham broke up the streak with a layup, but SUU added to the margin after a block by Brenna Gates resulted in a fast break score for Marissa Robbins and Desiree Jackson split the defense for a basket and a foul. Ashleigh Munns would knock down a 3-pointer from the corner in the closing minutes of the half and the T-Birds went on to take a 52-21 lead into the break.
Southern Utah outrebounded Arizona Christian by a count of 36-12 over the first 20 minutes for a 19-2 advantage in second chance points. The Thunderbirds shot 42.6 percent in the opening half, including going 4-9 from the 3-point territory, while holding their opponents to just 7-26 shooting.
SUU continued to pull away in the second half, as their record number of rebounds resulted in a total of 37 second chance points. The Thunderbirds also got 69 points from the bench as all 12 players who saw time on the court got into the scoring column. Mandelko led the way with a season-high 20 points while Moreland added a double double with 14 points and 11 rebounds. Jackson and Funk chipped in another 13 and 10 respectively.
Southern Utah shot 42 percent from the field and scored 50 points in the paint. The Firestorm were held to 31.5 percent shooting with most of the offense coming from Branham who finished with 20 points. Moreland, Lori Parkinson and Jessica Richardson all turned in double digit rebounding performances during the record night for SUU. The 101-44 victory also marked the team's third highest scoring total in a game.
"I thought that we executed the game plan well," commented Payne. "We tried to push in transition and rebounded well which was a big part of our game plan tonight."
SUU will now prepare to open Big Sky Conference play as the T-Birds are scheduled to visit Northern Colorado this Thursday at 7:00 p.m. Game coverage is available online at www.suutbirds.com.


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Americans look back to the administration of Richard Nixon as a time when a president had to resign in disgrace over participation in a crime, but, the people of Chile look back in horror to the administration of Nixon which sanctioned a brutal military takeover of their nation. Thirty-five years ago, the thugs of General Pinochet overthrew the democratically elected government of President Allende, and began a reign of terror that killed thousands. Chilean Judge Juan Eduardo Fuentes, has reopened the case of famous Chilean songwriter, Victor Jara who was brutally murdered, along with others, in the Estadio Chile. Jara was an outstanding political activist songwriter who was beaten, tortured, and had his hands broken by soldiers, who spat at him saying, "Sing now if you can, you bastard." A few weeks ago, Colonel Mario Manriquez, who supervised the murders in the stadium, was found guilty of murder, but not of pulling the trigger.
Jara was finally taken out to be shot, and his family and friends want the name of the triggerman, known only as "El Pincipe," which Colonel Manriquez will be forced to reveal. Actually, despite the beatings, Jara did sing a verse from the song, "Venceremos" before going to his death. One of his songs, "Manifesto" has this line: "A song has meaning when it beats in the veins of a man who will die, singing truthfully his song."


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text: Who was the best skater of the Slutskaya/Kwan era. Was it Irina Slutskaya or Michelle Kwan. Kwan has the edge in World medals 9 to 6, but Irina has the big edge in Grand Prix final titles 4 to 1, and all those European titles while Kwan always bypassed Four Continents. Irina at the Olympics has a silver, bronze, and 5th vs Kwan who has a silver, bronze, and WD, so slightly better there too. I think Irina has more grand prix wins, and was a more regular participient. Both have a Goodwill Games. Irina was the much better technical skater and Kwan the better presentation skater.


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This seller has very good prices on ammo. Anybody have any recent experiences with this vender? Thanks Al
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This seller has very good prices on ammo. Anybody have any recent experiences with this vender? Thanks Al
Never bought ammo from them, but have bought gun parts, detachable magazines, and similar stuff. Good folks, good prices, no problems at all with my orders.
Lately, I have heard they are REALLY busy, due to some great sale prices (as you mentioned), and also increased demand for AR and other gun-related stuff in general. This has resulted in some complaints that I've heard on other discussion boards about slow shipping/order processing times, but they do have a notice right on the front page of their site that says:
** Notice: Due to the popularity of the Free Shipping Event we are experiencing shipment delays **
** Please allow up to 5 business days for your order to ship **
so it's not like they aren't warning folks about it. My experiences with them have been great in every case, but obviously, I can't guarantee that for everyone.


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ASU Baseball Season Tickets Are On Sale Now
Jan. 5, 2007
TEMPE, Ariz. - Season tickets for the 2007 season of Arizona State Sun Devil baseball are now available for purchase. ASU will host 33 games at Winkles Field-Packard Stadium at Brock Ballpark, beginning with a three-game series against Southern Utah starting February 2nd.
Field level seats are priced at $230, $184 for all ASU faculty and staff. Reserved seats are $132, $93 for ASU faculty and staff and for juniors and seniors. Tickets can be purchased in person at the Sun Devil Stadium ticket office, located at the south end of Sun Devil Stadium, or over the phone at 480-727-0000.
Single game tickets for the 2007 baseball season at Packard Stadium at Brock Ballpark will be available beginning January 23rd. Single game tickets can be purchased in-person, over the phone, or online at www.TheSunDevils.com. Tickets for games against Long Beach State (Mar. 9-11), Stanford (Apr. 5-7) and Arizona (May 23-25) will be $15 for field level, $10 for reserved seating and $8 for juniors and seniors. For all other home games, prices are $10 for field level and $6 for reserved, $5 for juniors and seniors. General admission for every home game is $5.
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By Chris Harris
Arsène Wenger expects Jack Wilshere to take centre stage in the absence of Cesc Fabregas at Wembley.
The Arsenal captain has been ruled out of the Carling Cup Final with a hamstring injury, forcing Wenger to shuffle his pack for Sunday's showpiece.
Fabregas is regularly the 'go-to' guy in Wenger's team, the creative hub of their offensive game. But Wilshere has grown in stature since breaking into the side this season and the 19-year-old has been tipped to shine against Birmingham.
"He's had very good games," said Wenger. "His confidence has grown, his responsibility has grown, certainly.
"Our game goes naturally through Fabregas. When he's not there, it will go more through Wilshere.
"The way of the game is simple: it goes always through the team's strong points. So that the game goes through Wilshere is a good thing for him because it means the players around him have confidence in him. He will enjoy this game."Copyright 2017 The Arsenal Football Club plc. Permission to use quotations from this article is granted subject to appropriate credit being given to www.arsenal.com as the source


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Multnomah University prepares students for meaningful careers that serve Jesus whether they're called to traditional ministry or the marketplace.
Stay connected to our community and help the next generation of Christian leaders become agents of positive change, whether they're serving across the street or across an ocean.
Dr. Donald
L. Brake, dean emeritus of Multnomah Biblical Seminary and avid Bible collector,
will release two books this winter: A Visual History of the King James Bible and A Royal Monument of English Literature: The King James
Version 1611-2011.
His first
book, A
Visual History of the English Bible: The Tumultuous Tale of the World's
Bestselling Book, was
released in 2008 to critical acclaim. His next two books follow the same theme,
chronicling how God's word went from manuscripts, through
translation, and into the hands of laypeople.
Visual History of the King James Bible
To be released in February 2011 by Baker Books, this book brings to life the
creation and development of the King James Bible (KJV). Using beautiful photos,
illustrations, charts, and sidebars, Dr. Brake tells the story of the KJV's creation and proliferation throughout
the English-speaking world. The book enables readers to explore the KJV's
mysterious beginnings, the men who translated it, the manuscripts on which this
translation was based, the important people and places that influenced its
production, and even the possibility of playwright William Shakespeare's influence
on it.
As the 400th
anniversary of the 1611 King James Version approaches, this book is generating
wide interest. A Visual History of the
King James Bible is available for pre-sale on Amazon and other popular book
retail websites.
A Royal Monument of English
Literature: The King James Version 1611-2011
To be released in February
2011 by Credo House Publishers, this
limited-edition volume is for serious collectors. "A Royal Monument of English
Literature" commemorates the 400th anniversary of the printing of the 1611
King James Bible and is a finely-designed, full color, leather-bound, 36 page
17x11 folio. A truly unique folio
"leaf" book, it contains:
This ground-breaking volume represents the first ever worldwide census of the
KJV. Each copy is assigned a number with a description and history of
ownership. Auction houses, rare book collectors, and libraries will need to
have a copy to understand the modern history of the KJV. It will never need to
be done again. New information that will help settle previously unknown
questions about the number of copies printed and the original cost of a KJV
both for production and for retail. The book will be a wonderful piece of history
for Christians everywhere.
About Dr. Brake
Dr. Brake,
former Multnomah vice-president and Seminary Dean, retired in 2008 after 22
years of service. He is currently the Dean Emeritus of Multnomah Biblical
Seminary and still teaches classes. A Visual History of
the English Bible earned a starred review from Publisher's Weekly.
After the release of his book, he was awarded the Arnold D. Ehlert Award by the
Society of Bible Collectors for his contribution to the field. Dr. Brake is well known for his collection of
ancient Bibles and manuscripts, and is considered one of the top Bible
collectors in the world. He is also known for his love of history, geography,
and archaeology.
"My books seek to
celebrate the 400th anniversary of this wonderful translation," Dr. Brake said.
"The King James Version has fallen on unappreciated days. It is my desire that
these books will stir the conscience of Christians to once again appreciate the
KJV for what it is. Although it may not be the best translation for today's
reader, it stands tall in the history and influence of English Bible
To order a
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Made up of an undergraduate Bible
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Re: Why does my diesel not rev when in gear?
Thanks for the followup....
Re: Why does my diesel not rev when in gear?
While I've not solved everything completely it is working much better. Turns out there were several contributing issues and I've sorted most of them out.
The local mechanic noted that the exhaust manifold had a short distance of slightly upturned section before it sweeped down to the water muffler...this was apparenatly allowing condensation (with some rust from blackiron exhaust) to trickle back down into the engine thru the valves. The manifold was removed cut apart and rewelded to have the proper angle down...apparently this is a critical issue to keep spent exhaust water from getting back to your valves/engine.
The mechanic also noted the engine was idling too slow and increasing the idle to the proper RPM fixed the engine rev issue immediately.
I completely drained the tank and put in fresh fuel...the diesel in the bottom was quite reddish/brown and smelled bad.
There's apparently a small air leak in my fuel delivery system which given enough time (a week or so) will make the engine a bit difficult to start...thankfully cranking the engine eventually expells this air and when fuel hits it starts.
To clean up the valves/engine I added some Marvel Mystery Oil to both the fuel and the crankcase. After getting the engine started with this in it there was some nasty stuff coming from the exhaust that over a period of time cleared up. The engine gradually ran smoother as this ran thru it and it became easier to start (if this hadn't worked a valve job would be in order).
I still have the air leak issue so starting after setting a week still takes a bit until it flushes and the fuel hits...it more or less readily restarts throught the weekend.
Hope this helps...
Re: Why does my diesel not rev when in gear?
Oh and I did sail it for a few hours. It sailed fine which seems to eliminate the bottom, but not the prop.
Re: Why does my diesel not rev when in gear?
OBTW, I have the MD7A of the 13 hp flavor, not the 7B of the OP. There are no glow plugs on this engine.
Thanks for the reminder regarding fouled prop. I missed that on my todo. The boat was out of the water last winter and bottom painted this past spring. I'll still take a look though.
Re: Why does my diesel not rev when in gear?
The first step is still the same : have you eliminated the cleanliness of the propellor and bottom as the cause of the low boat speed?
Secondly hard starting is often the glowplugs.
Re: Why does my diesel not rev when in gear?
Reviving thread from the dead because I have same issue and found this thread to have lots of useful info.
Problem Statement: 1) Hard starting. Crank about 2-5 minutes. The engine will sound like it's trying to start, cranking sound will increase in pitch, engine slowly chugs to life and I can let off the starter. Once warm, engine starts right up again.
2) Idles fine. Revs up to max on tac with no load (and throws off alternator belt). Under load, I get a max of about 1500 RPM with boat speed on GPS of about 3.7 knots. I have either a light white or grey exhaust, can't tell which.
Additional info: A PO removed the fixed tank and installed bladder tank in locker. The feed from this tank includes an electric fuel pump which is switched on before starting (to overcome a faulty fuel pump elsewhere?)
I spent a lot of effort trying to get cooling water through the engine. The reverse gear water jacket was completely plugged up and required acid solution to get water flowing again. Although I eventually got a good water flow, the exhaust elbow could still be an issue as mentioned in thread.
So my todo list appears to be changing fuel filters, checking fuel quality, fuel flow, and exhaust problems.
Did I miss anything?
Re: Why does my diesel not rev when in gear?
This has to be a fuel system / throttle control problem.
When you said that you can put it in neutral and get it to rev up a little and then put it back in gear and it stays revved up whereas you can't put it in gear first and and then rev it up is the biggest piece of evidence that suggests there is some throttle / governor problem.
There's no need to check compression or starter speed or anything. It's not getting fuel! When starting it is taking a very long time to build up enough fuel at cranking speeds to do anything.
I think the governor may be built in with the injector pump, which is probably where all the problems are.
Re: Why does my diesel not rev when in gear?
Perhaps your tank vent is plugged. Try it with the fuel filler cap removed. Probably too easy of a fix, but easy to do.
Paul T
Re: Why does my diesel not rev when in gear?
That is an unbelievable amount of cranking.
Since you are not jumping at the idea of hiring a mechanic, I assume that you are cost sensitive. If this is the case, start with the stuff that you can easily do yourself for very little in parts costs. Check the throttle linkage and shutdown linkage again. Change your fuel filter and cut the old one open. Check your air filter. Check your exhaust hose visually by simply taking it off. I would also recommend cracking your fuel bleeder while cranking and seeing whether you get solid fuel or air and fuel.
Once you get through all of the visual checks, you want to make sure to start by doing tests that will tell you the most about the most likely culprits. Since you are not seeing blue smoke, a compression test would not be the first thing that I tried. The first thing that I would do is to check your fuel pressure. You can do this easily yourself with a gauge or you can get a mechanic to do it. If your fuel pressure is low (meaning <15psig), then you need to fix it before you do anything else. Low fuel pressure will cause many of the symptoms that you describe because the injectors fail to pop off. Next, I would check compression, again you either need a gauge or a mechanic. After that, I would think about pulling the injectors and testing them.
Re: Why does my diesel not rev when in gear?
Considering how many possibilities there are, and your lack of experience, my suggestion is to find a mechanic.
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I saw a few Zastava pistols and they were the "cheapest" AKs at $799-899. Cheapest AK rifles were the WASR-10s for $899. Saw a few underfolders/sidefolders, AMDs etc most of them going for $1000-1200.
Tapco 20/30rnd mags were the most reasonable at $12+, lots of mixed origin surplus steel mags for $30+. I was looking to get a few parts to complete my build parts count but no one was selling parts(aside from mags) or parts kits.
I was however delighted to find a vendor selling Wolf 20rnd boxes for $6 and 1000rnd boxes for $299 out the door. That was about the only reasonable thing I saw as far as AK stuff goes.
In general everything was still inflated to scare levels. Everyone keeps telling me that when supply goes up and demand comes down prices will follow. While I understand that shows tend to be on the expensive side, there were more than enough AR-15s there for everyone in the building to buy one, and I didn't see many for less than $1200(and no they weren't all Colts). Saw a few beat up SKSs going for no less than $500, didnt see a Garand for less than $800 despite parts origin/laughable stocks.
...and of course there was plenty of awesome Class 3/outrageous full auto stuff that makes it worth going to play with :brows: :brows: I was drooling over a full auto Thompson SMG and a select fire GSG 36. Its a sad time for the firearms community.


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Benchmarking and systems performance - hosted by Elisabeth Stahl
Blog Authors: ELISABETH STAHL 0600029JQ8 is Chief Technical Strategist and Executive IT Specialist, IBM Systems and Technology Group, and has been working in systems performance for over 25 years.
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Atlantica Online is proud to present the Luminary Onlines Goonzu world, as we already know, Atlantica Online and Luminary Online were both co-created and published by Ndoors Interactive Inc. These new features of Atlantica Online let us experience the fun behind the cuteness and eye pleasing colors of these creatures inside this world you will not have the heart to kill them, but excitement and fun begins as you enter this world.
As Atlantica Online added a new quest for level 90 players and above, this world will surely ease players from worrying where dark dungeons to go, this place will be a little bit different instead of fiery, deadly creatures, Goonzu world offers very cute, colorful and very huggable creatures inside but be careful hugging them will lead you in trouble, and let see excitement begins! First of all you need to get a ticket to enter this world, how to get it?
Heres a guide on how to get a Goonzu ticket and enter the Goonzu world:
Approach NPC Suspicious Poet near Goonzu World Entrance and perform his quest to get pieces of the tickets
Quest: Goonzu World Admission from NPC Suspicious Poet near Goonzu World Entrance and perfrom his quest to get
Basic information about this quest:
Quest Type: Daily
Level required: 90
NPC: Suspicious Poet
Location: Near Goonzu World Entrance
Total rewards:
Experience: 180,000
Gold: 300,000
Goonzu World Coupon x1
Stamina: 2
1. The Wandering Poet
I don't know about anyone else, but I have a bit of a grudge against those Blazing Lizards for what they've done to me.
A lifetime of beautiful poems... They are all gone now!
So please, go get rid of as many Blazing Lizards as you can. You can find them near Lost Volcano Valley.
Mission: Kill Blazing Lizard x50
Experience: 90,000
Gold: 150,000
Stamina: 1
2. Writing poems yet again...
If you don't mind, can you please bring me something I need to make the coupon?
All I need is one Brush
Mission: Brush x1
Experience: 90,000
Gold: 150,000
Other/Special: Goonzu World Coupon x1
Stamina: 1
1. You need 3 World Coupons to get 1 Goonzu World Pass.
2. So you need to do this quest 3 times to be able to get 1 Goonzu World ticket,
3. But be reminded that you can only do this quest once a day, so always check your quest logs for reset.
4. After collecting the 3 World Coupon, go to NPC Ticket Agent Acong and exchange the pieces of the ticket.
The fun and excitement begins here, go to NPC Maid which is located to West Pusan, you should be level 90 and above to get inside, and please dont forget your ticket.
Quest: Goonzu World Event from NPC Maid
Basic information about this quest:
Quest Type: Daily
Level required: 90
NPC: Maid
Location: Near Goonzu World Entrance
Total rewards:
Experience: 4,150,000
Gold: 6,400,000
Dr. Gon's Office Ticket
Water of Life (No trade) x3
Stamina: 11
1. Guide I
First things first! Let's take a tour of the park.
The 1st floor of the Goonzu World consists of memories from the Tree Lair hunting ground in Luminary.
And that's why that place is called Tree Lair!
Please go to Field Info under Game Info menu and look under Misc. to find useful information about the place.
Mission: Game Info>Field Info> [Tree Lair]
Experience: 100,000
Gold: 150,000
Stamina: 1
2. Teasing the Cannon Horses
Anyway, please go steal the Dangling Carrots from the mad Cannon Horses, Swift Cannon Horses, and Horse Riders.
The key to win this game is to survive through the horses' heavy snorting and kicking.
Oh, by the way, do not forget to bring your Goonzu World Pass!
Mission: Dangling Carrots x15
Experience: 350,000
Gold: 750,000
Stamina: 1
3. Raccoons!
However, the Raccoons in Goonzu World are very different from those in Luminary.
Do you want to try dealing with those fierce raccoons?
I can tell you right now that it's not going to be easy.
Anyway, I guess your mission for this game is to last against those fierce Raccoons. Now go!
Mission: Kill Raccoon x25
Experience: 350,000
Gold: 750,000
Stamina: 1
4. Teasing Song-i Hats
If you practice a little bit, you can easily take the hats off the Song-i Hats and Blue Mushrooms.
I look forward to seeing how many Cute Mushroom Hats you can collect from them!
Mission: Cute Mushroom Hat x20
Experience: 350,000
Gold: 750,000
Stamina: 1
5. Guide II
Okay, let's take a look!
Please open the Field Info window and look up Development Office under Goonzu World.
Mission: Game Info -> Field Info -> [Development Office] Search
Experience: 100,000
Gold: 150,000
Stamina: 1
6. Meaningful Hahoe Mask
The masks that the Yangban Masks are wearing are part of Korea's folk craft.
The name of the mask originated from Hahoe village, a part of Andong city in northern Kyung-Sang. They are the oldest existing masks used in Korean masked dancing.
They are made out wood, which is a very rare material for a mask.
Here is the question. What did I tell you the name of this wooden mask is?
It starts with letter H. The first word is 5 letters long, and the second word is Mask.
Mission: Answer [Meaningful Hahoe Mask] Question
Experience: 100,000
Gold: 150,000
Stamina: 1
Comments/Tips: Answer: Hahoe Mask
7. Delicious Pork Meat
Jeju Black Pigs should be waiting for you in the Development Office.
Test your hunting skills on those pigs, the symbol of the best quality pork meat!
Mission: Kill Jeju Black Pig x20
Experience: 750,000
Gold: 950,000
Stamina: 1
8. It's Also Fun to Watch Games
Oh, I know you are probably tired of watching someone else hunt ordinary monsters.
How about observing other adventurers with similar skills to you fighting powerful monsters?
Mission: Observe other's battle
Experience: 100,000
Gold: 150,000
Stamina: 1
9. Incompetent Poet
If you go to the deeper end of the Development Office, you will run into many Fake Poets.
These incompetent buffoons are acting like they are true wandering poets.
This game is to go teach the Wandering Poets a lesson!
Mission: Kill Fake Poet x25
Experience: 750,000
Gold: 950,000
Stamina: 1
10. Kind Heart
Anyway, if you have a good heart, you are welcome everywhere.
Since you had a good time in Goonzu World, would you like to give some gifts to some beginners?
Mission: Give a gift to beginner (Below level [29]) x2
Experience: 100,000
Gold: 150,000
Other/Special: Dr. Gon's Office Ticket
Stamina: 1
11. Haughty Attitude
Now would you go to Dr. Gon's Office and bring me the symbol of their haughty attitudes, the Funny Looking Pipes?
You can get them from Black Eagle Masks and White Eagle Masks.
Mission: Funny Looking Pipe x1
Experience: 1,100,000
Gold: 1,500,000
Other/Special: Water of Life (No trade) x3
Stamina: 1


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Here comes Honey Boo-Boo - the movie?
"Good Morning America" traveled to Georgia recently to pay a special visit to the seven-year-old star of the wildly popular TLC reality TV show "Here Comes Honey Boo Boo." After spending time racing around and hula-hooping, ABC's Amy Robach managed to sit down with the pop culture phenom and her mother.
Alana Thompson, better known to viewers as Honey Boo Boo, dished on everything from her favorite junk foods to the possibility of a movie being made about her sometime in the future. Should that happen, she wants the world to know she's pushing for it to include appearances by members of One Direction.
Could she be hearing the words "Lights, Camera Action!" soon? If a movie were created about her in the near future, we can't help but wonder:
Who would play Honey Boo Boo? Or would she play herself?
Would her whole family be in the movie? Or would they be casted too?
Where does One Direction fit into this flick? Will she make them eat 'sketti?'
So many questions!
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A call with Chris Anderson and blogging
I keep running into Chris Anderson's activities lately. First, I'm listening to his dW podcast interview on our site this week, and next we had an internal meeting for book authors that Chris came to talk to us about. The main discussion in the call was more about how to approach book writing and some ideas that he found successful for his own bestseller, The Long Tail (see my book list). Some of it rang so true but is still missed by so many authors.
For one, he talked about blogging from the very beginning on the book as he did on his research, and carrying the conversation on regularly and for a long time. Chris started blogging from the beginning. It helped in shape his ideas, but also helped quite a bit when it came time to launch the book; he gave away a thousand copies of the book to all the bloggers who interacted with him on his blog. This, I think, really helped to spread the popularity of his book.
Blogging is certainly popular but to many book authors it is still a new phenomenon, even in the tech industry. With that in mind, many authors think that they should start blogging when their book is nearer completion that from the beginning. I think there are two parts to this: a) in general, for a blog to become even barely known takes a long-time of ongoing and active effort; b) blogging about your book helps to build awareness. In other words, if you already have (a) going for you, then (b) should be easier. However, back to my point on blogging still being new with many authors points to the fact that many of them don't even have (a) going for them.
To give my example, I am working on a book and many of the ideas that I have talked about are spread all around this blog of mine. However, I don't think I ever stated that intention. For me, the ideas are more significant--and even more than that discussion of the ideas--than the point that its for a book. But perhaps I should state that intention right away and define the premise more openly. I'll save it for a different post so as not to distract from Chris' point here.
Another interesting point and one that is dear to his heart apparently--he just launched a new startup BookTour.com on it--is about authors engaging others in live events, book tours, presentations, speaking engagements, etc. I think it's a great idea and fits my philosophy: most people need help on learning how to generate a community around an idea or even themselves. What live or virtual appearances and activities do is help to build that community and reinforce the significance of the work. By Chris' own admission speaking engagements can have a better ROI than book sales, even if they go hand in hand; and I don't disagree with that in terms of getting paid for day-long appearnaces versus spending months on a book. This means that as an author you need to spend the time and effort to actively promote your book and not just rely on the publisher's marketing team. The argument I always hear on this is that most people have full time jobs and do not have the time to do so. This is where I think an idea like BookTour can come in really helpful.
Let's take an online parallel: we at developerWorks are about to launch a new aspect called Expert spaces amongst other features. This allows a person to create a community around their own activities using different social software tools not unlike what groups of folks are doing with our community topic spaces now. Like our spaces now, you can start a blog of your own to talk about your project, link in resources your find useful. If you want to go a step beyond, you could even write parts of your book in a wiki online and ellicit comments about the contents you share.
For our own team, this means that we will now need to help these experts get going on communicating in this new way. BookTour focuses on the specific activity of bookwriting; we have a much wider focus on building awareness about any technical expert. We do that now to some degree, but there is a lot more that we could learn.
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Maps in your blog
How to use WikiMapia to paste a Google Map in your blog posts. Very handy
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Are bloggers/community members the new analysts?
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We had a call today posing the question of how to work with Influencersin your community. I compared community influencers similar to how theindustry works with Analysts. Many organizations have Analyst Relationsteams whose sole job is to interact and communicate with analysts thatcover their products or services. Analysts come from many origins, butare usually recognized as experts in their topic, and hold a primaryjob function to cover the topic, or consult and interact with manycompanies, the press or other customers about the topic.
It's not a far stretch to say that leading bloggers, forum members, andothers who interact in a community are starting to gain (or evenbecome) the same status. The primary difference for most is the"amateur" status: rather than "being an expert" as their official job(the professional analyst), they are experts because of an existingjob, function or coverage they have. However, my point is that weshouldn't disregard them because of their amateur status. In fact,quite the opposite: this represents an opportunity to work with otherwho can help spread the word.
For the converted, this is not news, but in general this is still a newnotion. In fact, many organizations haven't even considered how toaddress this new population of amateur-analysts. They are looking for anew generation of PR/AR people who do get it. Businessweek's July 24th issue raises this issue.
On the other hand, some have (see the Nike examplein that article). Or on the other hand, there's the current debate onblogging-for-pay, where some bloggers are looking to get paid for theiractivities when in relation to product mentions, etc. I find thisdebate not very surprising when you consider this is already exists inthe field of professional-analysts. What is happening is that they aretrying to make a transition from amateur to professional status.
That is a bigger leap than a lot of people may think.
It's more than a matter of showing that you have X number of people whoread your blog, hence you should be paid $Y. In fact, what it points tois the somewhat mysterious/mystical reputationfactor. Anyone who tells you they have an equation for fame is talkinghorse's eggs (it's one my mom's favorite Bengali sayings: ghorar-dim).
This circles back to our Influencers and trying to figure out who theyare, and how to support them. With the social networking software oftoday, however, it is possible to learn some general behaviors like howmany people read something you've written, how often they may come backto it, what they think of your posting, etc. (Obviously, this onlyenters the picture when the influencer in questionwants to actually participate in this. Otherwise, you'd be running intosome heavy privacy invasions.) You need a number of different softwareelements to find that out, including a good metrics collection andanalysis system, a ratings system, per-user histories, peer networks,etc. This is more than a few separate pieces of social software we aretalking about, which means a lot of investment in developing the righttools. It's already going on in the industry as apparent by the growingnumber of social software sites and products that many new startups aretrying to capitalize on. So, there is and will be many different waysfor companies to start leveraging social systems.
But what is the value to the company? How do you even value somethinglike that, especially when they are so widespread across many differentsocial networking sites, tools, all of which provide different types offeatures, metrics, etc.
Many web sites in the industry have generally agreed upon the UniqueVisitor metric as a common measurement for people coming to sites, buthow do you measure reputation.Just because you have a lot of people reading the post, does notnecessarily mean you have any kind of influence over them. In fact, thepopulation may actively dislike an influencers views. Amusingly enough,this reminds of how Howard Stern became a big hit: not just his fansbut also those anti-fans listened to his show. Because of how thetraditional Wanamaker advertising model works (see my earlier post),it is considered a success. Is this still true in the evolvingpin-point targetted marketing model available on the Internet? (I'msure Mr Stern's producers certainly hope so: can he deliver on his$500M salary).
Do we need an industry-wide reputation metric? Is that even possible?Would this have any impact on what people use now: the traditional CPMadvertising/marketing metric model?
Well to get off the pontification of where it may go, I'll step into what we are thinking in terms of a reputation model next...
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Bloghud & Baseball in SecondLife
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Ian pointed this out that you can now Blog from within SecondLife using BlogHud. (connecting back from Virtual me to Real me, or is it? Who am I again?)
Also, the Eightbar bloggers went to a baseball game, complete with afull diamond & stadium, foam fingers, and fun.You have to see theirpics before and during the game. Even MLB.com likes it.
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What kind of knowledge activity do you do as a knowledge worker?
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Davenport in his book Thinking for a Living points out that the are essentially four basic types of activities carried out by Knowledge Workers in a line starting from :
For example, developerWorks is involved primarily in the activities ofPackaging and Distribution. We rely on authors, contributors, bloggers,and other experts to create the knowledge. We then package thatknowledge in various forms: articles, tutorials, blogs, briefings etc.We then offer a distribution mechanism for these pacakged knowledgethrough our web sites, our live events, etc. This is made available toour readership so that they may try to apply it each to their own uses.
The packaging part is the difficult proposition now in the light of unstructured knowledge.The dW web sites has typically been a e-zine in the past with manyZones each reflecting a magazine along some topic that appeals to someaudience. The knowledge comes from many sources, both within andoutside IBM to attempt to get the best coverage on a topic we can.These are structured into the semblance of an article or a tutorial.
Unstructured or less-structured knowledge, however, is where dWCommunity comes in. It's less structured because it does necessarilyfollow some kind of content format that people are familiar with: thereisn't necessarily an order to how the information is formatted, wherethe answers lie, where to look for more resources, or sometimes evenwho wrote the information or what their reputation/skill level in thesubject is. There is also usually little formal or standardized editinginvolved.
On the other hand, unstructured knowledge is where there is a hugeamount of growth, everywhere on the Internet. Take our blogs forexample: every blogger has their unique style on how they post theirknowledge, or even what kind of info they provide; while it isstructured according to the goals of that person, every visitor has totry to figure out each post or each blogger in context of others. Thisis both good and bad; it invokes style and personality to a greaterlevel. However, not everyone is a born-writer or blogger. Lots ofpeople go to school and study journalism just to learn how to do it;others, I will daresay like myself, have a natural apptitude for it.
To become more useful to those Knowledge Appliers, it helps to know howto better package your knowledge. While blog systems provide a tool forpresenting the knowledge, they don't automatically make you a betterwriter or a better blogger. With unstructured knowledge like blogs, fordW for example, we now share the workload of knowledge packaging withour experts, in exchange for greater freedom for them to carry oncreating knowledge about their activities. We also carry out anotherpart of the Packaging aspect through the blog tool itself.
What we (dW) need to provide is guidance. We collect the ideas,information, practices and success stories on what makes for goodhabits, techniques and practices for more successful blogs. We sharethat information with our bloggers as much as we can. In addition, wecontinue to workon ways to better distribute this knowledge across the site and the net.
Take the example of our blogs and multiply it for each other type ofcommunity tool (wikis, forums, podcasts, etc.) and you can see the rolewe provide in this Knowledge activity line in terms of unstructuredknowledge. When you consider that much of this is still fairly new orbleeding edge, we sometimes have to do the bleeding in the process offinding out what works and doesn't to better support our unstructured knowledge creators.
Unless of course someone else wants to handle that function ;)
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Posting on the Net and Image control
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Michelle Conlin's Businessweek article You are what you post,talks about the troubles of growing up in the Net generation. With theadvent of search engines being so "efficient" that it can find any kindof information that is associated with your name, people are startingto find that others including their bosses, potential employers, orclients can find out all kinds of information from your past. Anythingthat you might post online can show up including embarrassing orprivate facts about yourself, even things others might saw about you,whether true or not. How can you possibly know what is harmful to yourcharacter or can be misunderstood by others, tomorrow or even ten yearsfrom now?
This is causing fear and panic amongst individuals, companies and PRagencies worldwide. The idea that you image is always at risk on thenet. In fact, the rule of thumb is usually to always assume that "ifyou post it, they will find it." To some that means, "don't use theInternet". However, the right reaction is not to stick your head in thesand and assume that it will simply go away. It is to be proactive.
Michelle actually points out an important fact that is missed by many:there are two "yous", the physical real-world you, and the online imageof you (or what others learn about you from info online). Because yourphysical person is always with you (duh!) it's usually possible to knowwhat's happening around it. However, it usually not possible to knoweverything going on around the online you. The Businessweek articlepoints to five ways to manage your online doppelganger, which aredefinitely helpful hints.
My thought on this line however, is that companies and people may eventually realize that the online you isjust as important as person to maintain. The best way to do this is tohave an online tool to keep track of that you and what happens. What'smore, it becomes the basis of how others can communicate with theonline you. It's not only nice to have that tool but imperative, if youwant to have a proactive say around what the "online you" really does.Otherwise, you are at risk of leaving it in the hands of what anyoneelse may say about you.
In terms of philosophy (in the classical Greek sense), this is mind-bending in terms of what that persona is becoming: all that is online you is what others see around you. You don't have strict control of it, but you can contribute to it.
Aside from a tool, the other idea this points to is that it's unlikelya single individual will be able to know what the best ways ofpresenting themselves is. It's a brand new online world, and most ofthe social rules are still being figured out. The best way is to havesomeone who watches and understands the behavior across the net toprovide advice on how to use the tools according to the properfunction, and more so, in the most effective manner. In the physicalworld, these people are often called image consultants, PR agencies,etc., although that's really the extreme end of a business that isgeared specifically to your own needs.
Another way to look at this is in terms of getting people to understandor even share your views. If you're interesting enough, you might evengain a fan club of your own (the goal of many bloggers). Yourreputation helps build an implicit or even an explicit community aroundwhat you are or what you're doing. I, for one, don't believe anyone cantruly force others to agree with them wholeheartedly; therefore toconvince others on your view, you need to be persuasive and use theright tools and right means of persuasion. Thus, you should take a lookat this from the perspective of how to develop this community aroundyou.
The root of all this is your reputation online and how others see it.Take charge of your online reputation because, whether you like it ornot, it has or eventually will have a direct impact on your future.
In summary, the online you is already being "created" on the Web bywhat you and what others post about you online. You should considertaking an active part of owning and operating this "online you", andhandle this from the perspective of trying to build a community aroundyou.
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Ideas from blogs contributing to a common repository for innovation ideas
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Continuing my thread on knowledge workers, and how to get them to share their knowledge...
Davenport indicates that knowledge workers value their knowledge skills, but often do not share it easily.
The former part indicates that knowledge workers are proud of the ideas and knowledge they produce, and of the fact that they were able to come up with it. They see value in them. Therefore, one idea to increase productivity of knowledge workers is to give visibility or accolade to their ideas.
Unfortunately, the latter part is oh so true: if a knowledge worker does not feel secure in their environment or community, they are unlikely to share it, especially if it means that by sharing that knowledge, they may even be helping someone else take over their job.
Im an optimist in this area, and with the rise of open source and a more open worldwide environment (especially in our industry), we may be able to trust others enough to break down this barrier.
Take a look at this earlier post on a sort of universal meme about communities. This suggests that to get towards innovative ideas, you need to progress your community of people from the earliest stages of first getting them to interact to create a level of understanding and familiarity between the people in the organization. With a level of understanding you then have a platform that allows people to build trust between the community-members, and with that trust, some can explore and experiment on ideas and thereby develop a greater entrepreneurial spirit. Finally, once you get that level of mentality, you can finally succeed in innovation through your community.
Obviously, with Davenports statement, the sharing of knowledge lies in the very first few stages. If you cant get people to trust each other--even in a contained environment--you wont get knowledge sharing in action.
If you have a strongly-connected employee base, you have developed that level of trust or at least a level of understanding amongst the people in your organization. You still need to encourage others to experiment, as in our Think Fridays in IBM. For a small organization it is easier to distribute new ideas, but to achieve knowledge sharing of those ideas in anything beyond a few hundred people, you really need to consider a common tool to collect, rank, sort and share all those ideas.
That kind of tool is exactly what we have in IBM right now in the form of our ThinkPlace tool and system. The IBM Innovation team offers this tool whereby any of the 300,000+ people in IBM could share their ideas; these ideas are then sorted or ranked by popularity (by software and also by hand). Not only does this do great justice to enabling knowledge workers in our organization but it is also leading a lot of our own innovation, not just for new product ideas, but also for company-internal improvement.
In its simplest form, it is a sort of open discussion group with many threads that anyone can start up around their idea. This is more than a 21st century version of the old "Suggestions Box" found in many companies yesteryear which was a closed box only viewed and analyzed and action taken on by management.
Thinkplace is a more open process whereby your peers can look over the ideas and weigh in on its merits, rather than someone in management dealing out commandments. In fact, it is also a way for employees in other divisions to mine this idea database for things that might relate to their work. The managers from the Innovation team, in this respect do exactly as their titles suggest: they manage the flow of this output in useful channels to find the best ideas.
We have ThinkPlace in operation already, but now consider the next step towards integrating community.
As I mentioned in a previous post, you can use your blog to implement free-thinking time (e.g., Think Fridays in IBM), since many bloggers use this tool to share their ideas and knowledge. This certainly provides a useful business case to retaining and supporting knowledge workers.
Now consider how to export some of those ideas from your own blog into a community tool like ThinkPlace. Each blog post which is specifically is an idea should probably be tagged and then "pushed" (through software preferrably, or via manual copy) to the ideas database.
The reason to do this is because blogs are part of the new Web 2.0 mentality of a model of participation. In other words, people who are bloggers are starting to embrace a more open and willing stance on sharing their knowledge.
An experienced blogger is used to the idea of posting to their blog on a regular basis. All we are talking about here is categorizing particular posts and make it easier to export that into a public space like the ThinkPlace tool. This reduces the tool-usage time to transfer knowledge into a tool where that can be considered by a wider audience. In fact, for bloggers thats also a good thing: more exposure to your ideas on your blog, and possibly even showing some real outcome of your ideas.
Thus, the knowledge workers can create their ideas and contribute for a mass audience to consider and analyze; the organization behind that audience can create an idea pool that is self-defining and self-directed to produce new innovations; and both the members and the organization can benefit from discovering and implementing these innovations.
For the knowledge worker, this suggests not only building a regular practice for participating in communities but also offers a reward mechanism in seeing some of their ideas appreciated and maybe even implemented by the overall organization.
So, unless you think you dont really need innovation out of your organization, this suggests a useful business case for different kinds of community tools, for the growth of the organization as well as the happiness of your knowledge workers. And, oh by the way, in doing this, youve just created a knowledge sharing and capturing process.
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Intranet enterprise blogging needed for happier Knowledge Workers
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On the last two points that Davenport made in his book: to get commitment from a knowledge worker, it is important give freedom to experiment and work on ideas rather than to always dictate or direct them to work on specific things. Also, just as it is difficult to describe the job, it is also often hard to describe the knowledge output; for that matter, knowledge workers may not even seemto be in their best interest to share their knowledge.
The concern is that if you do not provide the correct supportive environment for your knowledge worker, they are quite likely to move to another organization that does (i.e., jump ship to a potential competitor who does offer the right environment).
This has direct relevance to a number of activities in IBM. For one, we now have Think Fridays. Basically, Fridays of every week should be freed up so that you have some peace of mind to consider, experiment, or talk about new ideas. Each person should apply that to their job as they see fit. I hear that 3M has something similar in that engineers should put aside 15% of their time to this kind of free-thinking.
For me, this tends to free up my regular weekday packed with phone calls with different groups, and sit back and think of the issues and changes to our project, or new ideas that have emerged. Others in our division use this time to experiment with new technology. C.J. and Peter on our team have even extended this to Think Friday-Build Saturday-Test Sunday, which I agree is certainly going beyond the call of duty, and very applaudable.
Now, consider Think Fridays on a different level across all IBMers. In particular, think of what people do in blogs and different community areas: discuss, digest, or produce new ideas. In fact, if youre an avid bloggers, you probably have Think-Mondays, Think-Tuesdays, etc., but in less than a full days time. Thus by blogging, as a knowledge worker, you are very likely and effectively using that free-thinking time.
So my advice to bloggers in IBM (and even beyond): Consider using a portion of your Friday to blog, because by blogging you are in effect implementing the spirit of Think Fridays.
Obviously, not all the ideas that you have are something you would want to discuss on a public blog. In that light, for IBMers we have an global intranet system called BlogCentral, which is a safe environment to discuss ideas with other IBMers. This quickly points to the necessity of having a blog system not just for an external audience but also one for a company-internal audience. Therefore, for knowledge workers within an organization, it is important to have an organization-wide blogging platform.
So for those looking for a business case for why you need a blogging system inside an organization, this is one good example. Blogs allow an expression of Think Fridays (or your organizations equivalent) which many companies think is an important aspect of encouraging, supporting and keeping happy their knowledge workers. I would generalize that to any number of other community tools, not just blogs.
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Waiting for my Roller upgrade
Okay, you may have heard that we're also upgrading to Roller for our blog engine. We're in the process of migrating all our existing blogs, blog entries, comments, categories, links, etc. all into Roller. Even with less than a hundred blogs, this is time-consuming.
I can't wait to get at the new features. One of our bloggers, Todd Watson is already using a Blog publishing tool called w.bloggar to create and post to their blog. Others are experimenting with what their blog presents, such as James Snell's tag cloud.
Me, I'm still handcoding HTML. :< (even my smiley's aren't graphical yet)
I guess I have to wait my turn.
And hopefully it's not like that time in Logan's Run to "Renew" (and never be heard from again).
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IBM blogging versus developerWorks blogging
James Governor of RedMonk has a point in his blog
Wake up IBM: come out from behind developerworks!!!
If it isn't obvious already, developerWorks focuses on a mixed audience of programmers, sysadmins, architects, testors, etc. all those directly involved in the software development lifecycle. Hence, our blogs fall in the same cloud too.
IBMers do have other blogs both on the site and outside, but there isn't an area for "all IBM blogs" externally from the global IBM site yet. Honestly, that falls beyond dW's scope.
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Why do we want primarily technical bloggers?
I'm finally on vacation this year. It's been a very busy season since I started to get our dW Community program on a strategic course. As a reward to myself, I got a CD of Brazilian music ranging from samba to funk.
We are having a gathering of bloggers (GoB) at our next IBM Software University event in January. SWU is primarily an IBMer event and is held every year to gather the expertise from the many thousands of IBMers (FYI: IBM has about 300,000+ employees worldwide) who attend.
[I'll admit I made up the GoB word as a recursive definition of a group of bloggers. It's my Unix heritage.]
The GoB is at SWU because most of our bloggers on dW are currently IBMers. That's not to say we don't have non-IBMer bloggers. In fact, I really want to encourage many non-IBMer technical experts to consider joining our ranks.
However, we do like to make a distinction with our bloggers. We're not really an anyone-who-wants-to-blog site. There are plenty of blogs on all sorts of topics, but here at dW we'd like to focus primarily on technical and developer-oriented topics.
That means that we want to try to keep things on topic that developers would be interested in. This is a non-trivial exercise most of the time. How can you really tell what a blogger wants to talk about? In fact, there is often a lot of interesting information that seems less relevant to a bloggers main topic on occassion.
Bloggers need freedom to express themselves but at the same time, the blogspace is full of many blogs with random thoughts that wander aimlessly, and those that die because it is not an easy task to stay on topic.
Our idea of blogging is actually to find experts that really know their topic and can write about regularly. In print publishing, this is similar to finding a regular columnist; the difference being that columns tend to be much more limited in length, content type and stringent on topic. You can't really go off-topic for an issue with a column.
There could be a wide variety of topics that our bloggers can cover but the key goal is to have a blog that, on a regular basis, is of interest to our audience of programmers, testors, sysadmins, architects, and other technical folk. You can see from the wide range of topics and technologies that IBM is involved in, from our product base to the projects we are researching, to walk across the topic-horizon, learning as you go, could take more than what any single person could do in one lifetime.
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Lots to learn from Problogger's 31 days to building a better blog
I recently heard about the Problogger site dedicated to those who want to become bloggers on a professional level (i.e., full-time job earning money). As part of their current 31 days project they have a great collection of hints and tips on all facets of blogging including writing entries, building a blog brand name, marketing your blog, indexing in search engines, responding to commentors, interface design, traffic behavior, etc.
I find that we ourselves learned some of these best practices on blogging (by trial & error), and there are still many other things to learn from. We are sharing these practices with our different teams in applications development, design, marketing, and community relations.
If you are a blogger--even if you're not in it for the money--read this site.
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I played Maplestory a few years ago, when you only had the base classes, and i found the game quite enjoyable. now with the addition of all of the new classes, is it still worth playing?
I played Maplestory a few years ago, when you only had the base classes, and i found the game quite enjoyable. now with the addition of all of the new classes, is it still worth playing?
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I hear work is being done on MS2, although that might be years away from release.
I enjoyed it way back when, although with the cash shop I never really got that much into it. All the cool stuff seemed to be in there. (Also, the EU version was way behind the other versions which sucked)
If its worth playing now, I might give it another go.
the game now is a spam fest you just spam abilities everyone dies you dont even have to dodge attacks or aim is just throwing huge attacks and killing everyone. you can get level 100 in a week but is way too easy .
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If you enjoyed the gameplay before and they've added new content since then, only you can decide if it's worth playing again.
The general discussion forums make it look like the game is in a state of chaos or something.
Well, based on the posts it does look like it's still worth playing. Go for it!
this piece of shit is always in a state of chaos. nexon can't deal with the bots/hackers so they just roll back if something happens and instead of dealing with problems they just release a new class with a slew of new events that get hacked or exploited. the game is also p2w in "end game" cause u need hammers/boxes to make the best equipment so u can get into parties for bosses and such.
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no company can deal with botters if they just keep coming back. even in korea they can't do a thing about it because botters make a living out of selling mesos/game gold for real cash having their accounts banned or ip blocked only slows it down a tiny bit.
north korea and china bot in popular games for military funds
i just think its sad that their way of dealing with an exploit or a hack or bots is just rolling back. i have never played a game that has roll backed so many times. in fact maple might be the only game i have played that has rolled back.
since when was maplestory ever worth playing?
Currently playing: FFXIV (Elucifer Arclight, Leviathan server), LoL (Trash Tier Waifu, NA server), SMITE (Zacewing)
Okay OP I haven't played Maple Story in a number of years but I decided to give it a go for you.
No. It's not worth playing.
Jerks, maplestory was worth playing with the grind
Maplestory was always a horrible game...we were just too stupid to realise it when we were 12 years old. :P
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I reached MapleStory endgame in 15 minutes. Because in 15 minutes I ended the client and uninstalled it.
So many people that don't know what they're talking about lol...
Give & Take
I don't think the game is boring, but it really is badly managed and maintained.
Which is a shame because I think I'd love this game if not for those issues.
I may consider giving it another go eventually, probably not til the Global server gets the 6th hero though.
theyre getting beast tamer today not a 6th hero but whatever. Dunno how you people liked the grind originally in maplestory even if its a bit too fast now.
I was recently thinking the same thing. I came back to Ms about a month ago and im loving it. Only reason im on this website again is because there is a patch tonite for a new class. Beast Tamer
I gave the game another go. I'm using a Xenon on the Windia server and I think it's a really fun class with a lot of depth to it. The Beast Tamer just seemed stupid, and they shouldn't release dumb shit like that just for the sake of releasing another new class.


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massacre mags, doomsday drums, what are we gonna call the belt feed stuff?
how about "bad behavior belts"
Wish I bought a lot more for resale. Can make some good money now. As it is, I'm sitting on a gold mine.
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massacre mags, doomsday drums, what are we gonna call the belt feed stuff?
how about "bad behavior belts"
I posted this on a firefighting forum I am a member of where the gun debate is raging and is now 7 pages long. For those that don't know me this post is dripping heavily with sarcasm...By the way, "Massacre Magazine" sounds like a gamers magazine with al the cheat codes and such.Logic, and real attempts at curbing or solving these issues have little meaning to the knee jerk reactionary anti-gun crowd. Once you understand that people are blameless and the gun is somehow capable of evil all on its own you will see the light. Once you start to hold people themselves accountable for their actions you may damage their self esteem and THAT my friend is the worse possible thing you can do to someone in our society today.
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