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Infrastructure managers are under pressure from state regulators to deal with an issue that is getting press and popping up in mail from concerned citizens: How will the latest generation of wastewater contaminants affect water sources, and what can we do about it?
The issue is how "micro constituents"—emerging contaminants such as endocrine disrupting chemicals (EDCs)—impact environmental and human health.
EDCs, which have been detected at trace concentrations in waters around the world, interfere with hormonal processes and alter the way organisms reproduce and develop. They also affect the function of the thyroid and immune and nervous systems. Many are pharmaceutical products, such as contraceptives and hormone-replacement drugs, which are non-degradable, persistent, and effective even in small quantities. When these compounds flow from the sewage-treatment system into the effluent outlets of city systems, they have unwelcome effects.
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EDCs first came to public attention in the 1990s when it was discovered that downstream of some municipal effluent discharges, the fish population exhibited an abnormally high percentage—more than 90% in some cases—of females. Further investigation found that estrogens in the wastewater from a variety of sources were a major cause of the phenomenon.
Under directives from the 1996 Food Quality Protection Act and 1996 amendments to the Safe Drinking Water Act, the EPA established the Endocrine Disruptor Screening Program (EDSP) in 1998. This program aims to use assay methods to identify chemicals that have the potential to interact with the endocrine system and to determine the endocrine-related effects caused by each chemical.
In turn, regulators are asking wastewater treatment plant managers to monitor for substances such as EDCs in their effluent. Estrogenic compounds are among the first EDCs in many jurisdictions to move toward regulation. One reliable, accessible testing tool uses genetically modified yeast that can bond to estrogens, producing an enzyme that can be measured. Even tiny amounts of estrogens cause the yeast to react reliably, forming a robust test system.
But the challenge lies beyond estrogens. Some 4000 substances, many of which will ultimately be flushed into our environment, are registered daily with the Chemical Abstract Service of the American Chemical Society. Scientists lack the technology and resources to measure the effects of all these potential contaminants, particularly from exposures to substances below analytical detection limits (quantities that exert an effect but are too low to measure).
Other compounds, such as those found in many plastics and naturally occurring substances, can mimic estrogens. Therefore, new formulations of such common household products as laundry detergent could likewise have unintended effects upon release into the aquatic environment.
Uncertain what to measure, plant managers usually consult a testing laboratory. The lab comes back with a long list of compounds to test for, a costly and ineffective way to predict the future effects of these substances. And some may have little environmental impact. Consider the range of EDC compounds for which one city recently asked a laboratory to test:
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Hey everyone I start a real job in two weeks so I thought it was time to really work at my costume since i will have the money. To start off I am using a mystery helmet i got from amiadfilter last year. I would like to get a sgtfang helmet a little later down the road.
For this helmet I was thinking of doing the bluer version but im not sure if I want to or not. This is pretty much just a practice paint job.
So far the only thing I have done is a silver coat. I am gunna run out today and grab some liquid mask.
This helmet doesnt have the dental thingy
And I wanna sand down in the visor area, I dont like when there is a gab in between the helmet and the visor.
I also need to get a rangefinder and stalk...any ideas where I can pick up a resin one?


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Four years ago after the end of SgtFang's first run of the original "Mystery helmet" I thought I had missed out by not getting one - until one day someone posts one for sale on RPF and I snapped it right up! I spent days painting and repainting it and it was my helmet from then on. I even had it signed by both Jeremy Bulloch and Daniel Logan. I can't tell you how much I like this helmet.
For the past few months I've had my Fett outfit in a semi-retired state on a mannequin in my office at Epic Games and he's become pretty popular. When the press comes by, the guys always bring them by and they've taken photos, etc. My coworker CliffyB even posted him on his blog:
So I come to work Tuesday morning and see my Fett statue doesn't have his helmet on. That's weird, but not alarming. It must be around here somewhere, right? Nothing could have prepared me for what I saw next. Please, Fett enthusiasts, if there are children in the room, send them away. These are graphic images.
The helmet is sitting on my desk and the first thing I see is that there is a gaping hole where the face used to be. Then I see the big hole in the top. The helmet is surrounded by all the parts: ears, rangefinder, and several pieces of what look like shrapnel. Then I realize that the front part of the rifle is along side the fragmented parts, along with several other smaller pieces that belong to it. The rifle had been disconnected at the handle - that is, the screws from the aluminum bracket came out of the resin handle. No big deal, I can screw that back together, but the scope was off and several smaller greeblies had been shorn off. No one has any idea what happened. My officemate Mikey Spano kindly picked up the pieces and put them on my desk. Lots of guys have been by to offer their condolences.
My question is: is this fixable? Should I toss it and start over? If not, I forsee much fiberglass net, resin, bondo, sanding and repainting in my future. :(


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By Richard Littlemore • Wednesday, June 22, 2011 - 16:21
In a scorching, 7000-word article in the coming issue of Rolling Stone, Al Gore savages mainstream media for its incompetent reporting of climate change and roasts President Barack Obama for failing to advance policies against global warming any more quickly than his woeful predecessor.
Gore is clear, quotable and uncompromising in stating his own case:
"Here is the truth: The Earth is round; Saddam Hussein did not attack us on 9/11; Elvis is dead; Obama was born in the United States; and the climate crisis is real. It is time to act."
But after making the case for reality in climate reporting - and crediting Obama for some early efforts - Gore says this:
"But in spite of these and other achievements, President Obama has thus far failed to use the bully pulpit to make the case for bold action on climate change. After successfully passing his green stimulus package, he did nothing to defend it when Congress decimated its funding. After the House passed cap and trade, he did little to make passage in the Senate a priority. Senate advocates — including one Republican — felt abandoned when the president made concessions to oil and coal companies without asking for anything in return. He has also called for a massive expansion of oil drilling in the United States, apparently in an effort to defuse criticism from those who argue speciously that "drill, baby, drill" is the answer to our growing dependence on foreign oil."
The implications for U.S. credibility in the global conversation is obvious, Gore argues:
"During the final years of the Bush-Cheney administration, the rest of the world was waiting for a new president who would aggressively tackle the climate crisis — and when it became clear that there would be no real change from the Bush era, the agenda at Copenhagen changed from "How do we complete this historic breakthrough?" to "How can we paper over this embarrassing disappointment?"
Not to say, "we told you so," but it's worth recalling that Obama's position on climate change has long been unconvincing. In 2007, the DeSmogBlog served the then-presidential candidate with a SmogMaker Award for his failure to take a stronger position in favour of good climate policy and, especially, against coal. We said, "Barack Obama may not be the worst offender among the spinmeisters, but he's the biggest disappointment."
And we were flayed for saying it across the internet. Friends and allies responded in outrage that we were holding Obama to an unrealistic standard and, counterproductively, attacking the candidate whose climate position was most progressive.
So we apologized.
That now looks like a mistake. The environmental and scientific communities' tendency to be polite, supportive and tame when dealing with their "allies" in the White House and Congress have left those allies with the impression that there is no political cost to doing nothing - even as the Republican "mainstream" takes ever more stupidly radical positions in response to the Tea Party ravers and campaign-funding lobbyists. If the climate conversation is inane - perhaps insane - some of the blame surely falls on those of us who have held our tongues in the face of disappointment. If the people of America and the world have been left standing on a busy intersection with their backs to the traffic, it's because we have failed to shout the warning. We certainly have failed to offer fierce and constructive criticism to those of our political "friends" on whom we rely to make matters better.
As Gore points out, President Obama has let dust gather on the Bully Pulpit. It's not clear whether that's because Obama doesn't want to be mistaken for a bully or because he truly thinks there will be no political cost for ignoring his timid base.
Gore, much to his credit, has taken the second option off the table. He says:
"Here is the core of it: we are destroying the climate balance that is essential to the survival of our civilization. This is not a distant or abstract threat; it is happening now. The United States is the only nation that can rally a global effort to save our future. And the president is the only person who can rally the United States."
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you have the balls to quote him for ur campaign? sickening yet frightening. the man is a hypocrite, liar and fool.
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Wonder how long it will be on
Wonder how long it will be on this post before a denier says "the game is up", "the hoax is over" "the scam is up", "global warming is dead".
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"the game is up", "the hoax
"the game is up", "the hoax is over" "the scam is up"., "global warming is dead".
Just for Phil……:-)
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If you cant get Obama to do
If you cant get Obama to do the climate dance, its on hold for at least 6 more years.
aside from that, Im honestly surprised to see Gores name pop up out of the shadows.
Mr. Gores apparent position on the climate is that he personally wants to have it for lunch.
I dont think anybody is getting past that with him. He lives large and burns as much fossil fuel as any one man can.
Hes toxic as a climate spokesman. By all means keep bringing him up.
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"If you cant get Obama to do
"If you cant get Obama to do the climate dance, its on hold for at least 6 more years. "
That should work out just about perfect.
By then the Cooling will have been going on for a full 15 years and we will be well into a Solar induced cold cycle.
The only ones that will be able to ignore that will be the people with large investments in the AGW industries.
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Why isn't that swindler, Fat
Why isn't that swindler, Fat Al Gore, doing jail time yet?
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Ever notice how Al Gore has
Ever notice how Al Gore has no wind or solar panels on any of his mansions? Gore is rich and can fly in private jets, live in multiple mansions , eat meat and burn as much fossil fuel as he wants. He can afford anything in the world yet he does not invest in wind or solar for his mansions. But his carbon footprint is still lower than yours. He simply buys the carbon offsets he needs to reduce his gross carbon gluttony to achieve a zero carbon foot print. You can drive hybrids, put solar panels on your roof, erect windmills, eat all the tofu you can and Gore will still have a lower carbon footprint than you. He simply buys enough carbon offsets so that he becomes carbon neutral, might cost him a few hundred bucks a year, that's all. Installing solar panels and wind turbines is a waste of money, neither will never pay for themselves within your lifetime. Which would you do, spend $100 a year for carbon certificates or $100,000 for solar panels? Exactly. Gore is no fool. He knows tofu and wind turbines are for suckers. Buy carbon offsets. Be like Al.


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Looking good! I am waiting for my softparts and was going to follow BooBooFett's thread on how to attach the armor. This is yet another option! What size bolts and grommets did you use?
Looking good! I am waiting for my softparts and was going to follow BooBooFett's thread on how to attach the armor. This is yet another option! What size bolts and grommets did you use?
The grommets were 5/16ths or 8mm and I got them at Walmart. 30 for $2.99 ( I think I know they were under 3 bucks)
The bolts were machine screws and nuts 24 x 3/4 and I got them at Tractor Supply. 10 for $1.49
Good Deal. Yeah I think I am going to do this method for mine ROTJ Fett just because it looks like it works soooo much better. Thanks a bunch and again, looks good!
Can't wait to see the one that is leather!
took a quick pic today. There is some adjustments that still need to be made, but I cut off the bolts and added some weathering.
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a couple of the bolts heated up and had to be reglued. Evidently I did not put them in the same spot because the right side had a bit of a "bunched up" area on the chest. That will be an easy fix though. I did break out the craft paint and dirty up the plates and the vest a bit.
I realized after the fact I did not take a picture of the cut off bolts. They are nothing special but I had a couple of questions about how rough it would be against your body and I wanted to show them. I don't even notice the bolts with a t-shirt on I doubt I will be aware of them with all of the other gear on.
A couple of other things I am figuring out.....even though this vest was said to be cannon, the shoulders are too small and the armor extends past the end of the vest. I think the neck opening is a bit large and the distance from the neck to the edge of the shoulder is a bit wide. But as I said this is my practice vest for when my long awaited LSFU vest arrives.......
As always C+C is appreciated.
****, that suit is looking so good. Can't wait to see it all on
looks good...the only 2 things I see is the back edges of the collar seem to poke way up...can you bend them down to sit flush on the vest and the lower outside edge of the chest are sticking out. I would try to get them as flush to vest as you can. Also I think you are right the shoulder of the vest are little short. Looks really good and weathering looks nice.
Proof that I am still working.......gauntlet pics
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those gauntlets are looking great, I'm so jealous I can't wait until I get mine
Gaunts look nice...though strictly speaking you don't need the cable dart in the right gauntlet with the arena pack since he used on kamino and there are screencaps on Geonosis with it missing...than again you also have the option of carrying 1 or 2 blasters as well...Either way...they gaunts look good!
Hadn't really thought about that but I guess that would be true.......hmm, learn sumtin new everyday
Does your helmet have the dent?
Nope no dent. I am doing the arena JP but most everything else could easily be Kamino.
Very nice gauntlets. Can't wait for mine to get here!
Ok, the real stuff arrived today.
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The LSFU leather vest and blurple Flightsuit came in. I had to at least lay the armor on the vest and take a quick pic.
I now have all the parts, I just need to put it all together. So how does one work up the courage to poke holes in thier new leather vest?
I am going to use the bolt on method, but jimmeny christmas I will be nervous when I do this.
I was updating the first post and realized I could almost make 2 Jangos with what I have at the house........I have a problem (and I won't find the cure on this board)
NICE!!! That's gonna look really sweet! Can't wait to see the completed pics. How is the new flight suit? Color right?
Can we see a pic of the LS4U flightsuit?
I have some comparative shots of the flightsuits the LSFU and the Bobamaker.
I will post them up a little later tonight. They are on the work computer.
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The suit is cut straight through the torso, so it looks "blocky" in the picture. Just for info I am 5-10 and 185. There is room to move an the FS is comfortable. The color is definitly Blurple although it is tough to see in the pics.
Here is one with the vest on.
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There may some minor adjustments made but overall I am pleased with both items.
Here is a comparison shot of my two flighsuits.
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The LSFU is on the left and the Bobamaker is on the right. These are both top tier products. The Bobamaker has a thicker weave to the fabric and is more blue. The LSFU has a tighter weave with the more purple blue color. Both have waist adjustments. The Bobamaker has elastic with buttons. The LSFU has elastic with velcro. The sleeves on the LSFU has more stiching detail. I would have to say that both are well worth the money.
I have started to afix the armor to the vest. Should have some pics up soon to ask about plate placement. Had to post up something to keep up with the other WIP threads.
Boot armor is on .
Ok so I would like some input before I continue to poke holes in this leather vest.
I suited up tonight and had the wife take a few pics. Toatally unintentionally I ended up with the chest armor at two seperate heights. But after looking at it...well it might work out better fore critique. I really want to make sure I have the spacing right. The collar and shoulders are attached with snaps, the chest and ab are just on with velcro.
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When employers complain about a lack of skilled workers, what they tend to really mean is "a lack of skilled workers willing to work for subsistence wages."
When employers complain about a lack of skilled workers, what they tend to really mean is "a lack of skilled workers willing to work for subsistence wages."
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In a recent study, the Boston Consulting Group noted that, outside a few small cities that rely on the oil industry, there weren't many places where manufacturing wages were going up and employers still couldn't find enough workers. "Trying to hire high-skilled workers at rock-bottom rates," the Boston Group study asserted, "is not a skills gap." The study's conclusion, however, was scarier. Many skilled workers have simply chosen to apply their skills elsewhere rather than work for less, and few young people choose to invest in training for jobs that pay fast-food wages. As a result, the United States may soon have a hard time competing in the global economy. The average age of a highly skilled factory worker in the U.S. is now 56. "That's average," says Hal Sirkin, the lead author of the study. "That means there's a lot who are in their 60s. They're going to retire soon." And there are not enough trainees in the pipeline, he said, to replace them.
Nobody (other than Republicans) ever said that the MOTU were very bright or even had any clue what they are doing.
The Randians who exalt "market forces" are suddenly struck with a bout of imperial mercantilism when those market forces indicate they need to raise the pay of the untermensch who don't inhabit the executive suite or their country club.
It's not just the Randians. Republicans in general see themselves as fully justified in whatever they do as a 'matter of principle' compared to the 'evil self destructiveness' of those DFH's, like those workers at Hostess.
But it's not limited to who may withhold their value from the marketplace under what circumstances. Consider the double standard that let's them call themselves patriots as they talk of secession and attack Democrats that don't wear flag lapel pins.
Their world view is simply what's good for the current aristocracy is good for them, and what's crap for everyone else is owed to the aristocracy.
Everything else is just noise.
what it actually means is that those employers claiming an inability to find appropriately skilled workers are liars. they aren't actually trying to hire anyone, they're just making loud noises. if they truly needed employees, to keep up with demand, they'd hire them, and pay the going market rate. they don't.
in my world, it's called basic economics.
Workers of the World, Go Galt!
Amusingly, this is more or less what's happening. The sorts of highly skilled workers that Our Galtian Overlords want to hire for pennies on the dollar are walking away, leaving the Makers to wonder, if they are the Makers, why their assembly lines aren't making anything.
Or, put better; http://www.angryflower.com/atlass.gif
they aren't making anything, because there's no demand for whatever is that they make, not because they're unable to fill the positions needed.
leaving the Makers to wonder, if they are the Makers, why their assembly lines aren't making anything.
but it sounds better for them to lie.
So, reading the description of these jobs in the NYT, they are basically beefed-up IT jobs. Troubleshooting the hardware and software has been IT's job everywhere I've worked (and the hardware and software in this case sounds like it requires more skill areas to maintain than a desktop computer).
Yeah, if you tried to hire IT for $10/hour, you'd get laughed at. Even beginner tech support/helpdesk people at crappy companies make more than double that. Even undergrads doing work-study helpdesk jobs part-time make that much or more at some universities.
This is so true.
At a local community where I used to be on the board the manager complained about not being able to get good workers for $11.50/hour to fill the covenant enforcement position. $11.50 – for a job that requires lots of detail and accuracy and is mainly about getting grief from irate homeowners. The manager opined that the problem was no one would take the position due to unemployment insurance.
This manager is a real piece of work. Totally into the right wingnutosphere, totally buys into the 47% myth, and (because I know his salary) he has no concept that he's one of the 47% because he pays SSN and medicare on his 1040 but no income tax. No idea that he's PRECISELY the sort of person who will benefit greatly from Obamacare.
These are the people that kept the GOP within a few percentage points of winning in 2012 … these are the people who vote against their own interest … yes, in part due to racial/tribal issues … but also in large part because the Democrats are so pathetically bad at communicating what their policies actually do.
i only have a moment so i can't take the time to click through the links, but in a nutshell, this is why the most pro-worker policy in the world is a pro-growth policy, as we saw in the late '90s.
this is also a reminder that jobs created because of demand, not thanks to the benevolence of a "job creator."
The economy is, and always has been, entirely demand driven and most of that demand comes from workers. The more money workers (and the poor) have, the greater the demand and the more growth in the economy.
Just like the USSR right DrDick? No nasty capitalists to take away money from the workers there right? So it must have been an economic paradise right? Lol.
Okay, so I think Jennie is saying there was no consumer demand in the USSR. I would like to believe that nobody could be that pig-fuckingly ignorant, but then I remember Jennie's track record.
I am saying that the USSR adopted all the policies Marxists like you, Loomis, DrDick etc favored and they were an economic basket case. Why is that?
That's so cute that you think the USSR had one consistent economic policy during the course of its existence.
Don't ever change, you are perfect just like you are.
One thing that IS consistent is there were no capitalists in the USSR. And that country's economy was a wreck. HMMmmmm…wonder if the two are related?
pancakes. Pancakes are nice. Who's up for some pancakes?
One thing that IS consistent is there were no capitalists in the USSR.
What a maroon.
Good point, maybe (factually deficient) correlation does equal (angry weirdgross) causation after all!
They will never address this issue. When "Suzie" gets cornered and has nothing, it's "that's so cute", etc.
And you are correct. There were no capitalists and central planning was the norm. And as we all know, it didn't work out well at all….in any iteration, not just the U.S.S.R.
But the allure of something for nothing of socialism, the burning desire for 'fairness' and the lack of historical knowledge of how socialism and communism allowed such horrible human rights abuses will cause socialism and communism to once again be in vogue.
That's so cute when you pretend to be different people in order to agree with yourself, Jennie. Sure fooled everybody.
Suck on it 'suzie'
Part of your dumbprint, Jennie. Please troll better.
Or that the policies it did adopt were consistent with all forms of socialism. They certainly not what Marx had in mind. What rightards like Jenny never understand is that Soviet Russia is much better understood as a Leninist, not Marxist, enterprise (with a heavily czarist political infrastructure). From what we can ascertain, Marx favored a syndicalist and not state socialist model.
They certainly not what Marx had in mind.
Please point out one successful Marxist country.
I'm seriously interested to understand what success is in your eyes.
Because I can pretty safely say that free markets have created more wealth than any other system, hands down.
Because I can pretty safely say that free markets have created more wealth than any other system
This may be true, but I kind of say 'so what?'
I care less about the total amount of wealth created than I do that it's distributed equitably.
Please point out one successful Marxist country.
Define "successful."
Define "Marxist."
Define "Country."
You may see there are some problems in the very question you ask.
I care less about the total amount of wealth created than I do that it's distributed equitably.
Perhaps you could talk to Scott about giving all students the same mediocre grade in his classes regardless of ability or effort.
"Equitably" and "equally" are two different words with different meanings, Jenbob.
Jesus, could you possibly be any dumber?
Do we just turn to your guiding opinion as to what's 'equitable'?
Who decides?
I'm interested in knowing who you think should have the power to tell others who's worth what.
Let's have it. Lay it out, if you really have anything other than your flapping gums…
Lay it out, if you really have anything other than your flapping gums…
Hello pot, meet kettle. Kettle, please stop fucking the walruses.
Thought so…
Marxists like you, Loomis, DrDick
Some of them are Marxist college professors, who are paid with your money that men with guns who come to your door take! And who then buy not only pancakes, but pain au chocolat, brioche, gâteaux, and quelle horreur, crêpes Suzette! And they order them with a French accent, and spell them with those funny accent marks! Just to aggravate you and to celebrate The Blessed One's victory! And they indoctrinate the students with Marxism. There's even a pool to see who can make the most conservative students cry sad little conservative tears. Bwwahhaahhhaaaa!
Waiter, see that whatever it is Mr. Protevi is having, he can keep having it.
There's no doubt this country is going straight into a socialist hellhole. The America I and my ancestors new is dead–we are turning into Canada, only even more socialist in the end I expect. Canada with nukes and less ice hockey is the future of the late great USA.
Shit, we brought union busting to Canada, and now they don't have ice hockey either.
The America I and my ancestors new is dead–we are turning into Canada, only even more socialist in the end I expect.
The fact is, hear in the Heartland, we new it was dead when Nancy Pelosi got her girl-cooties all over are govermnent.
Canada with nukes and less ice hockey is the future of the late great USA.
Also, in the Heartland, we know there's only room for so many parody trolls.
we are turning into Canada
You know what language they speak in Canada, don't you JenBob? French! But up there the Marxist college professors don't eat pancakes, it's poutine instead!
O Canada, that great frozen-over socialist hellhole.
Is this the same person who, just in the last thread, was bwa-ha-ha-ing about how CAPITALISM IS ETERNALLY ASCENDENT SUCK IT LIBS? Why yes, I believe it is. This is some funny shit.
But up there the Marxist college professors don't eat pancakes, it's poutine instead!
To be fair, that is a pretty hefty consequence.
And you know what they have lots of in Canada? Maple syrup. Which goes well with . . . come on, you know the answer . . .
To be fair, that is a pretty hefty consequence.
True dat. Or c'est vrai, to keep with the theme.
I like pie.
As a Canadian-American now retired to the Philippines, I am confused, What's my future environment?
Making libertarians cry actually is one goal of my economic anthropology lectures.
How can you oppose economic transactions entered into by mutual consent? Why do you hate freedom?
I love you. (in a wholesome hetro-manly way of course)
They became an economic basket case and ultimately collapsed for the same reason we will if the GOP gets its way. They diverted far too much of their GDP to military purposes and not enough to civilian and consumer goods.
Watching you try to make sense of that is like watching a sooth-sayer reading sheep entrails. There's just nothing there, man.
If so, whence comes that awful smell?
Spare a kind thought for the pigs, eh Mal?
Silly me. I forgot. There's absolutely no middle ground between Soviet-style Communism and late 19th Century laissez faire Capitalism.
Are you a Marxist or not Major Kong?
Comrades! He's on to us! Quick, back to Moscow!
Was the day the USSR finally gave up the ghost the saddest of your life?
I used to sit nuclear alert as a B-52 aircraft commander, with targets inside the Soviet Union.
I'd say that gives me sufficient anti-communist "street cred".
They were an easier enemy to deal with, however, than chasing faceless terrorists.
There were rules to game and both sides (mostly) followed them. We were too scared of making a mistake and blowing up the world.
Wait, was that supposed to be trash talk?
It did ruin the chances of living out his dream of riding the Bomb cowboy-style as it dropped on the commies. And yet, from beyond the grave, they still appear to be fluoridating your precious bodily fluids.
It was not even a sad day for me. As an actual Marxist, and not a Marxist-Leninist, I have no love for totalitarian political systems. Unfortunately, you cannot say the same.
Why would any liberal be saddened by the fall of the Soviet Union?
Soviet communism was just another failed alternative to mixed-economic liberal democracy, like conservatism, fascism, and all the others.
Was the day the USSR finally gave up the ghost the saddest of your life?
Djilas wept.
Comrades! He's on to us! Quick, back to Moscow!
While this is pretty funny…it's certainly true that it's only the far left Democrats that are ever accused of being communists, never the Republicans.
I guess I can understand why one would want to pre-empt the commie thing before it's raised as it has been so many times before.
Nobody gives a shit about being called a communist, mainly because this isn't 1981 anymore. These days, calling people "communists" for disagreeing with you says more about you than it does about them.
As an actual socialist, why the fuck would I worry about being called a commie (even if it is not technically correct)? I often call myself that in public. Now if you accused me of being a libertarian or a Republican, I would take your fucking head off.
As an actual socialist…
Oh, please….just fuck off, will ya'?
Your evidence for accusing "far left" Democrats of being communists is that they are the ones being accused of being communist? That seems like the kind of argument that might backfire on an accused caprid-copulator like Observer.
Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Communist Party of the United States?
My memories of 1983 are a little hazy, so "maybe."
Do you really not know the difference between a demand (decentralized or capitalist) economy and a command (cntrally planned) economy? You really need to pull yur head out of your ass once in a while and take a look around. There are lots of tasty pancakes out here in the real world.
What do you mean by "the economy" being demand-driven? I'd say short-term economic growth is largely demand-driven in most circumstances, but long-term economic growth comes from technological advancement and investment in human and social capital.
No, it always comes from consumer demand. Technology has no significant impact on the economy if it does not increase or create more demand. If nobody buys your product, it has no impact, other than making you go bankrupt.
I agree in the sense that the point of the economy is to fill people's desire for goods and services. In that sense though what you're saying is true by definition. If nobody buys your product it has no impact, but if you can't manufacture or supply a desired product it still doesn't have any impact. But in terms of proximate causes, an economy with a static supply function and production frontier can't grow indefinitely even with a changing demand function. Or to put it another way, is the reason that the economy has grown since, say, the 1700s that consumers are demanding different things or that producers are able to supply different things? Did the Roman Empire lack tanks and bombers and nuclear weapons because there wasn't any demand for them?
No economy can grow indefinitely. We live in a finite world with a finite population and finite resources. Technological change can increase demand, as I said, but it is not automatic and it is still consumer demand that drives the economy. What is produced, how much is produced, how many jobs are created, and ultimately how the economy grows or doesn't is simply a function of consumer demand.
Frankly I think this fetishizing of growth is ultimately destructive. This is a major factor driving most of our economic problems. When I was growing up in the 1950s and 1960s, economic stability was the primary goal.
I think we're just violently agreeing. I'm saying that consumer demand drives technological advancement which produces economic growth, and I think you're just taking the intermediate step as a given. I don't know if fetishizing growth has been destructive, as I think a lot of economics has been dedicated to establishing a stable monetary basis for continued growth. I think there's a lot of potential for technologies like augmented reality and genetic engineering to continue economic growth even in an age of resource limits, at least for the most well-off consumers. But I'm a child of the 80s, so I don't have anywhere near the same historical perspective.
in response to real or anticipated demand, not as ends in and off themselves. (well, ok, government does invest in human capital through the education system as an end in and of itself.)
"Job creators" is a crock of propaganda cooked up by the Koch operation. As if job creation is a beneficient act of charity by the rich.
Know what creates jobs? People spending money. Get money into the hands of people who will spend it. Economically strangling the poor and middle class doesn't do it.
I think recent history makes the phrase "job cremators" more apropos.
I see what you did there, and I like it.
Do you guys pay the trolls or does everyone take their turn in the barrel?
Supply and demand. Magic of the market. We pay 'em with high quality snark, and they keep comin' back for more.
A few years ago, someone wanted to open up a machine shop in one of the NY boroughs.
And they put a help-wanted ad in the NY Times, looking for well trained, experienced machinists. And all the were looking to pay them, was between $10-12 an hour.
My late Father started off as a machinist, and ended up a foreman in a number of shops there, and Upstate NY.
I showed him the help-wanted ad, and he laughed.
He said that might be fine for a someone who was a trainee – but no experience machinist would work for that.
A few weeks later, I saw an article in the Times, where the owner was complaining that he couldn't find people who wanted to work, and so was re-thinking opening up the shop.
Dude – no self-respecting experienced machinist would work for that in NY City. Hell, they couldn't live off of that if they had a family!
Pay them, and they will come.
Also too – whatever happened to companies training people and giving them the knowledge and skills necessary to do the job?
Now, they want the states to teach in Community Colleges, the skills they used to teach workers during probationary periods.
The most dependent and entitled people in this country, are our Galtian Overlords.
Now, they want the states to teach in Community Colleges, the skills they used to teach workers during probationary periods.
And the states are failing to fund community colleges.
So, basically, the working class is expected to pay for its own training, which will then qualify it for jobs that still pay burger-flipping wages. And, if the working class considers this a shitty deal, and settles for burger-flipping jobs or unemployment instead, that's because they're "entitled" and "want stuff."
Got it in one.
I've been saying for years the problem isn't lack of skilled employees, it is lack of skilled mployees willing to work for peanuts.
And sometimes there genuinely is a lack of skilled employess, but that is either because the software is only a year old so nobody has much experience with it, or because that narrow specialism only has 5 firms doing it and they all hope that someone else has paid for the training of the people who they want to employ, rather than doing it themselves, because that requires actual hard work and management.
Gee, as recently as the 1980s if you wanted to hire people to work on the specific technology you bought you hired good people in that industry and sent them to training for a month. But somehow the world transitioned to "you have to have the specific training already before we hire you."
Of course, this doesn't apply to CEOs, who are often hired without any knowledge of their industry and spend a year "coming up to speed" at outrageous salaries.
Yes. The system is set up such that people to pay for the certification that will allow them to make money for other people.
Isn't it possible that the machine shop couldn't make a profit if it paid more than $12 an hour? Granted, that still means the owner was dumb. But he could be dumb for thinking this was a viable business plan, not dumb for grabbing too much money and paying the workers too little.
This business plan might work in the Deep South's "At Will" states, but in NYC, the cost of living is many, many time higher.
If he had hired, and paid, a group of experience machinists, and had them train people who have the aptitude for that kind of work, then he might have been able to at least start the business.
But you really can't get too many skilled and experience people for rock-bottom salaries.
At least, not yet.
broadly speaking, gareth, yes, there is such a thing as paying so much for labor – a primary cost – that you can't compete on price, and you either compete on quality or you can't compete: this is the basic principle of creative destruction.
but when you see businesses with strong demand and healthy bottom lines saying they can't afford to pay more, you can be sure they are talking about the rank-and-file, not senior management, for whom there is always more money available, and you can be further sure that they are lying.
no self-respecting experienced machinist would work for that in NY City.
So, if you are correct, they will be forced to pay more or not get their machinists.
So, what's the problem? The system works
Well, that is the problem they are facing. They refuse to pay more and so cannot hire anybody. They (and you) then scream that they cannot find any qualified applicants. You people only like the market when it benefits you or your rentier overlords. When the workers make it work for themselves you all scream "SOCIALISM!" You dumb fuckers need to get your narratives straight.
" They (and you) then scream that they cannot find any qualified applicants."
Then they demand more H1-B visas.
" They (and you) then scream that they cannot find any qualified applicants."
Errr…I'm not screaming anything. I'm not interested in getting in the middle of it.
They want workers, they will have to pay competitive wages. Workers want jobs, they will have to accept competitive wages.
Like water seeking its own level, there will be an agreement or neither of them get their way.
For you in academia, it's called "The Market".
it's called "The Market"
That word, I don't think it means what you think it does.
When you can't discuss the issue…
You call yourself "Observer". By the way, just what do you observe with your head that far up your ass?
When you can't discuss the issue…
When you can't discuss the issue…
Don't worry, Jennie – we can't really avoid discussing your issues…
Pay them with what? Milton Friedman pointed out that well over 80 percent of national income comes from wages. And just 6 percent from profit. Even if you used up every cent of profit it wouldnt nearly be enough.
Marxism fails and the market wins yet again.
Pay them? Hmph. Let them eat pancakes!
Waffles – they serve pancakes in Hell!
You do know that executive salaries count as wages, right?
Why should executives pay themselves less? The whole point of business is to make money for the owners and executives. It's their money, their business, not some fucking charity outfit.
The whole point of business is to make money for the owners and executives.
Silly JenBob, the whole point of business is for you to bust your ass so men with guns can come to your door and take your money to give to Marxist college professors who use it to buy pancakes.
or French Toast!
Because if you don't pay your workers the prevailing wage, the following things happen:
1. You can't find enough workers.
2. The workers willing to work for you are the ones who can't get jobs elsewhere, e.g., the less valuable workers.
3. As your workers improve from on the job experience, they leave for better paying positions.
This isn't rocket science. Your comment is as dumb as claiming that its irrational for your machining shop to pay your supplier for steel because you're not a "fucking charity outfit," and you need the money for new golf clubs.
You don't actually know what businesses are, do you?
Or anything else, for that matter.
Hope you remember the way back to your rock.
I've got to say the juxtaposition of this:
Pay them with what? … Even if you used up every cent of profit it wouldnt nearly be enough.
with this:
Why should executives pay themselves less?
In the same comment thread – in fact just separated by a single other comment – is an instant classic.
Well done, my good troll, well done! Go have a pancake with some maple syrup to reward yourself for that bit of nonsense!
Ah, so the road to prosperity is for all of us to make less money? Got it.
You know, in the Air Force we believed in "Lead by example".
So I'm sure you'll take the lead and voluntary work for less money.
Today's capitalists and managers (along with JenBob) are dumber than Henry Ford, who knew he had to pay his workers enough to be able to afford to buy his product.
Actually, the crisis of capitalism is that Ford was wrong. He paid his workers enough to be able to afford to buy *everyone else's* products. That would work fine if everyone was willing to reciprocate, but once one Wal-Mart shows up, that system breaks down. It's a tragedy of the commons problem: if nobody's workers make decent wages, everyone suffers from lack of customers, but no individual business can afford to pay decent wages while their competitors are not.
And like other tragedies of the commons, it can only be fixed by an agent acting at a society-wide (or at least industry-wide) level, such as the government (minimum wage laws) or a union covering the whole industry (negotiating the same CBA with all employers in the industry, so they can't attempt to compete by screwing their employees worse than the competitor screws his).
And Milton Friedman has been right about exactly what in the last 50 years? He and his acolytes have gotten pretty much every prediction they made 100% wrong. Do try to vist reality someday.
More to the point, what we can pay the workers with is the money saved by paying CEOs only 40 times (rather than the current 311 times) as much as the line workers. This is what they do in Germany and Japan (who are kicking our butts on many fronts).
Japan had been in a depression for going on 20 years now, you moron. They CEOs make less because there's less money period.
A clever person, which you are not, would see how the relationship has changed over those twenty years (hint: you are still wrong).
They also made 40 times what the workers did in the US from WWII until the 1980s. I would prefer the economy they had (and I grew up with) to the one people like you have given us.
The figure is more like 2/3, rather than 80%, historically. And after several years of following Friedman's advice, we've gotten that down to 57.6% these days, from what I can tell. So, on behalf of the working class, let's all thank Milton Friedman and his acolytes for our 15% decline.
Know where I can find a used guillotine in good working condition so that I can properly express my gratitude?
why in good condition? a rusty blade might make it more fun.
Yes, but then they tend to jam and lines back up.
A hydraulic log splitter would do in a pinch.
And those are easy to come by here in western Montana.
Wait… paying people is Marxism?
You got it, also workers donating their labor for under market value is not charity.
In 1986, one of my first jobs after dropping out of college and after the inevitable trip through fast food purgatory was as a machinist trainee. The company was a third-rate operation that specialized in cheap subcontracting work for the big locals like Grumman and Fairchild. The place was pretty horrible, a veritable cornucopia of OSHA violations and worker abuses.
On the other hand, they started be out at $5.00 and hour, which loosely translates to $10.00 and hour in 2012 money. This despite the fact that I had no experience in machine shop work and, to be quite honest, average mechanical aptitude at best. On top of that, the guy who brought me in, a friend of my mother's, got a bonus from the company after I had been there three months.
My point is that even the cheap fucks who ran that place realized the value of a trainable kid who was willing to learn, put in some effort and show up to work every day. If they had been waiting for a fully-trained machinist to show up and take that same five bucks an hour, they would have been waiting a long time.
Six months in, I couldn't take it anymore and quit to go sell vacuum cleaners door-to-door. But that's another story.
Please stop feeding the stupid troll.
I tried, but some trolls are too much fun to poke with a stick..
This one certainly ties itself into some interesting and complicated knots.
Honestly, our pet troll here at LGM is just not very good at the trolling thing. He/she/it needs to do a bit more research on actual things that would piss off liberals. Instead, he/she/it seems to have built up a caricature of a socialist/communist/liberal and says things that would piss off that caricature instead of things that would piss off actual liberals/socialists/communists.
Also he/she/it might want to crack open an economics textbook that wasn't written by Ludwig von Mises. Possibly Marx's Kapital, if he/she/it wants to find some things that might actually have a shot of pissing off a real liberal.
Aw. But our trolls love pancakes!
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Wow, a conversation with a real communist. Back in 1969 I happened to meet a guy named Gus Hall, seemed like a nice guy. I was a country boy of 18, and it was years later I realized he was the leader of the Communist Party. But also just a guy.
That is so meaningless now. Communism as practised in the Soviet never was communism, of any description.
The Republican plan is closer to communism than the Soviet Union was. What do you say, DrDick? Soviets or Republicans?
Scott, isn't there a way for your software to allow us to flag and hide threads from the resident under-bridge dweller?
I love reading LGM, and the comments, but when huge tranches of comments are generated by you-know-who, for no purpose whatsoever, it becomes harder to devote the time to keeping LGM in my reader.
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The terminology and mechanics can prove to be difficult to understand.
In order to pass and advance, you must achieve a score of 70 or higher on the test.
And from what I can see of her behavior seems totally unaware
she's done anything wrong.
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Re: Could she sail the boat if necessary?
Thank you for your kind words Donna (DRFerron) they cheered me up. Not sure whether I will be a sailor for life (am 99% sure I won't) but at least I can try to make the best of the foreseeable sailing future.
Re: Could she sail the boat if necessary?
I think I've banged the hatch with every kind of hat made. The best, at least the hat that provided the most protection, was a stetson--Lots of room between the top of the hat and your head.
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Re: Could she sail the boat if necessary?
For head banging you can't beat a Cowichan wool toque.Classy too on 202 cm.
Re: Could she sail the boat if necessary?
ENOUGH Tilley-bashing!
I love my Tilley hat! It even gives me money. Although I'm sure a more logical explanation is that I put the $20 in the secret compartment and then just forgot about it.
Re: Could she sail the boat if necessary?
Originally Posted by johnnyquest37 View Post
Now, as much as marriage and sailing can generate emotion, that is nothing compared to JordanH's inflammatory remark:
"Dorky" Tilly hat - tread lightly friend. Them's fighting words!
1. the blatant dorkiness is intentional and not genetically based;
2. the victimized spouse had no idea her intended was so afflicted with dorkiness to rise to the level of wearing a Tilly hat (Relevant questions: Did your intended ever wear a plaid sports coat before you were married? Listen to Abba or Barry Manilow? Cry during a karoake rendition of "Feelings"?)
Re: Could she sail the boat if necessary?
I'm very lucky, from the start my 1st mate was a natural. She seems to have a feel for it, even when we were just starting you would have thought she had been sailing for years, she could read the wind on the water and trim the sails accordingly. She might not have know all the terms but from the start she has been able to sail any of our 3 boats with little to no help from me. The only arguements are for time at the helm.
Re: Could she sail the boat if necessary?
Originally Posted by johnnyquest37 View Post
Now, as much as marriage and sailing can generate emotion, that is nothing compared to JordanH's inflammatory remark:
"Dorky" Tilly hat - tread lightly friend. Them's fighting words!
Mine has been around the world - Italy, Asia, Caribbean and sailed around the Great Lakes. The first hat ever sold was to someone in my yacht club... I believe Alex was a member, although I don't see his name in the book at present.
But lets call a spade a spade. You aren't going to be seeing those wonderful (dorky) hats on the cover of People, Rolling Stone, or any fashion magazine.
Re: Could she sail the boat if necessary?
What an interesting thread. Of course, our marriages tend to generate much emotion. Add sailing in what can at times be stressful conditions (even when nothing is going wrong), and our marriages can really start to generate emotion.
The original question was posed about by the husband essentialy asking how can he encourage his wife to become more proficient. It is a valid question since they have to rely upon each other as crewmates.
I am a sailing instructor and have taught several couples and I formally instructed my own wife (ASA 101 and 103). In general, I think it is a bad idea for a husband to instruct his wife, but in my case it went pretty well. It is also sometimes a bad idea for husbands and wives to take sailing courses together, especially if there is a wide disparity in their interest level. When one spouse is going along with the training to appease the other spouse, tension can develop when things start to get stressful. Anyone who has sailed with their spouse knows what I am talking about. This tension can be magnified during formal instruction. My recommednation in this case is for the husband to suggest that the wife take a course without him being present.
But, if she is not interested in taking a course or becoming at all proficient, then what? Personally, I think he needs to discuss with her his fears and his expectations. Perhaps they can come to an agreement as to what level of proficiency she should strive for. At a minimum, she should be able to drop the sails, engage the engine, and broadcast/call for help. This is not for the husband's sake - if he goes overboard he is lost. This is for her sake so that she has a chance to survive if she finds herself alone on the boat. The more proficient she can become, the better for him and the better for her. I'd not worry about docking and anchoring so much - yes these are important skills, but if she is suddenly alone on the boat, a poor job of docking is the least of her worries.
One respondant posted about his experience falling through a hatch and his wife having to take over. The only accident/injury I've ever experienced at sea was very similar. I fell through a hatch after messing with the mainsail. My wife and I were sailing over a long weekend with another couple (non-sailors) aboard. I was hurt pretty badly, but thankfully there were no broken bones. My wife was completely able to control the boat for the rest of the day both under sail and later on the engine. With the help of our friends, she was more than able to dock the boat. Her ability to handle the boat was the difference between being embarrassed and being in trouble.
Now, as much as marriage and sailing can generate emotion, that is nothing compared to JordanH's inflammatory remark:
Originally Posted by JordanH View Post
I *hate* that. Although, we don't have a hatch on which to leave open/closed, I have hit my head many times because of ball caps in the same way. One way to avoid it is to give up the ball cap in favour of a dorky Tilley hat. Outside of the better sun protection, they also have a foam top which cushions the blow on those hatch/head meetings!
Re: Could she sail the boat if necessary?
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I think it is really all about feeling that you are not the only one in the world with this problem. Knowing that other people have gone through the same issues and survived helps. Someone also mentioned that the website should only be about sailing but surely sailing is about your relationship with your boat and your crew which in a lot of cases is your spouse - why should only the relationship with the boat be the one talked about?
Welcome to Sailnet, sailorswife. I hope you stick around long enough to get to know us (and feel comfortable enough to tell us your name). Perhaps you can even teach some of these hardened guys a thing or to or at least give them something to think about to make them pause the next time they open their mouths to yell.
Since you said that you read through this entire thread, you are indeed a brave soul for posting anyway. I am not in your position on our boat and I suspect the women who are and read this thread will probably not contribute but sometimes it only takes one pebble to start the avalanche.
Be that as it may, Sailnet has as members some strong women sailors who are willing to help their sister sailors, whence the reason for the HerSailNet forum was started even if the men do lurk in the shadows before jumping out at the unsuspecting (and contribute here more than the women). Just don't forget that we're here and we're out there. We don't always entirely agree with each other, but we have no problem disagreeing in a respectful manner that I hope certain men take note of.
Three that come to mind who I know have reached out to sailors on the water and have provided me with a lion's share of inspiration are wingnwing, melrna and Denise. I hope to be them when I grow up.
So welcome and I hope you stick around. When you get the required number of posts feel free to PM me if you have sailing questions or concerns or fears you want to air and don't feel comfortable bringing up before the peanut gallery. If I don't know the answer, I'll know who to ask.
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Hey folks. Table registration opened today for the chicago zine fest.
go to www.chicagozinefest.org to register so we can hang out this spring.
Here's info about the fest. We're working very hard to make this a 2-day event that's interesting to a variety of people and easy to participate in! If you make short films, submit a film! Or maybe run a workshop or panel discussion! Or become a volunteer and help us make sure the fest runs smoothly.
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super excited about the Al Burian and Aaron Cometbus double feature!
Sounds wonderful! I have to double check to make sure that I can make it, but Chicago isn't too far away! :)
My table is booked!
Wish i could come this year!!
my table is booked as well! Anyone else from Portland taking amtrak? We should all go together! Zines on a Train!
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Re: Feathered Friends
Reminds me of that Pixar short with the big dumb bird and all the little birds. Funny stuff. I would get this for my kid.
Re: Slow Seeped tea
Lord this is cute. I had a box turtle when I was a kid named Reggie. He was awesome. This reminds me a little of him because he was always on the move! Go little dude! +1
Mavyn wrote:I'm a baking geek...how could I NOT love this?
If it wins...I will do my best to re-create this scene with actual baked goods.
Heck, I might do that either way, it sounds like fun. :D
^ Would be amazing!
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Dawww I think this is my favorite shirt in the fog right now. I love the little birds' expressions.
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I have some concerns about this cup. Normally I wouldn't have much trouble tracking the lethargic li'l guy down, but since I'm most likely to be drinking tea when I'm sick, I could see this getting pretty frustrating.
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So sad this isn't doing better in the voting. I really want to give woot my $$ for this one.
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Great tribute to Escher! Fabulous use of color!
Cute! I'm a sucker for pretty teacups =)
jcjones2181 wrote:A wise man once said, "You don't make friends w/ salad!"
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I think this is a clever shirt -- even if it is a bit of a corny pun. It might take some explanation for some people, but it would make a good inside joke for amateur geologists.
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o.m.g. I have to have this shirt.
*goes to find friends who are on woot that can vote*
Re: Jimi, Jim, Janice and...Justin?!
Bummer. I"d hoped this would get a pass from the rejectionator since they're clearly charicatures, and most of them are dead.
Love the design but I can't help but feel this would look much nicer on a lighter background.
Re: The Smart Cookie
This is amazing guys, great collab congrats! +1
fablefire wrote:Thanks for the support folks!
I was teetering on grass or kelly and picked grass because I was feeling cabin feverish. It's a spring-y color. Uploaded a version on kelly though, for those who can't live with grass:
Voted for both versions.
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I'll take pictures, I promise.
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Great work, very nice :D.
Hahaha, so funny and fantastic work ;).
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Reminds me of a ping-pong table...
Hahaha, nice :D
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Great work, I like it.
Hahaha, So funny.
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This shirt rules. I would wear it everyday of my life and then some
The celebrity likeness thing is one of the long standing rules that applies to all derbies but isn't listed in the individual derby guide. Celebs, booze, toilet humor, religion...there are several 'do not touch' items.
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Make it glow in the dark and I'm sold!
The bears appear to be missing the lower halves of their bodies. Wouldn't you see their legs under the table?
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cheer up pluto, what care's have you for the random labelings of one of over a million species living on a rock billions of miles away.
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Live loops: Geoffrey Williams and his smart phone band!
January 23, 2013 , 2:47 PM by Prue Bentley
We worldly folks at the Morning Show aren't astounded very often.
This week though our chins were just about on the floor as local musician Geoffrey Williams performed an original song without the aid of guitar or piano.
Instead he used a regular smart phone and a small amplifier to create an entire backing track live on the show.
The results knocked us for six - here he is performing for Steve Martin on ABC Ballarat & Southwest Vic Mornings.
PS. This is all created live in the studio!
Geoffrey Williams looping live! from Prue Bentley on Vimeo.
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Geoffrey is soooo talented! He will be on stage for the Ballarat Backyard tasters on friday march 15th in Alfred Deakin Place. He will perform with Ballarat songstress Dani Fry - another super talent in our region! 5-8pm, as part of a four-part performance series that actually starts this Friday - feb 8th. More details on Ballarat Backyard Tasters facebook page. All of these events (feb 8, 22 and March 1, 15) are FREE.
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That was great and being clever. Let us call that geoffreysmart band.
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Branches of this smart, clever chain are popping up faster than mustard seeds in a hot pan of ghee. Each outlet is decorated with a different theme – on Parkway it's advertising posters of the 1930s and '40s; at Covent Garden Rajasthani puppets hang from the ceiling; in Soho, Islington and Earl's Court the walls feature striking work by tribal artists.
The mood is both vibrant and relaxed – as cheering to singletons having a thali for supper, as it is to family groups and couples. Conceived by the Panjabi sisters of Chutney Mary and Amaya fame, Masala Zone is not expensive, yet even so there's a high rotation of attractive discount offers.
The menu takes in street-food snacks (springy, grease-free onion bhaji; dahi poori), wraps, grills, curried noodles, curry and rice plates. There are also two sizes of thali; well-trained, multicultural staff describe the daily veg, dahl and raita on your arrival, and you choose which of the curries you would like included – clove-scented lamb roghan gosht, say, or a tomatoey tilapia masala.
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3. In the bowl of an electric mixer fitted with the paddle beater, beat the eggs and sugar on high speed until very thick and more than double in volume, about 5 to 7 minutes.
4. Reduce mixer speed to low, add the dry ingredients, butter, and vanilla. Beat until just blended. Pour the batter into the prepared pan and spread evenly.
5. Bake until the brownies are set and a toothpick inserted into the center comes out with a few moist crumbs attached, about 25 minutes. Transfer the pan to a wire rack and let cool completely, about 1 hour. Cut into 20 pieces.
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What can Nova Peris offer you?
Jan 23, 2013 , 1:42 PM by Vicki Kerrigan
Do you think the NT Labor party has been shafted by the PM?
Yesterday, Julia Gillard endorsed former Olympian Nova Peris as the number 1 Senate candidate for the Labor party in the NT. In doing that, the PM bypassed the Labor party pre selection process and it appears she also offended the current Senator Trish Crossin. Senator for the last 15 years, Ms Crossin, received a phone call from the PM the night before the announcement to explain that the PM would be supporting Ms Peris.
The question for you is: what can the Gold medal winning Olympic Hockey player and former Australian of the Year, Nova Peris offer you. Take a listen to this interview.
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With no disrespect to Nova Peris, it is just another example of what this PM will do to stay in power. There are plenty of footprints and knife marks on backs already that lay testament to this manic desire of hers. If she is feeling so 'remorseful' of the fact that no indigenous person is in the N.Y. Parlliament, why is she not backing the Aboriginal politician who is also standing for pre-selection? Why has it taken so long for this 'remorse' to surface -apart from the fact that there is an Election due this year? Now her footprints are all over the N.T..
Posted by: Michael David | Jan 23, 2013 at 02:34 PM
Wow NT citizens are being railroaded by the PM, to loose an articulate hardworking senator as crossin is, to undermine the legitimate pre-selection process of an outstandingly politically credentialed Indigenous woman like Marion Scrymgour, for an inarticulate individual such as Nova Peris is a disgrace. Territorians say No to Nova.
Posted by: Andrew | Jan 23, 2013 at 03:17 PM
Ths is a real kick in the guts for all NT ALP members, it is an absolute abuse of executive power, and will do nothing to help secure the seats of Solomon and Lingiari and could put at risk the Labor senate seat in the Territory. No disrespect to Nova, I do not know her, she should have joined the party and thrown her hat in to the ring with Trish and Marion, and let the party process run it's course, this kind of intervention from the federal executive is normally only used in extreme situations where the usual process is not working or has failed. I am, like many other party members in the NT very concerned about the damage this will cause our great party.
Posted by: Adam Findlay | Jan 23, 2013 at 09:22 PM
This is just another blunder by our Prime Minister, where are her minders and mentors, how is it that we, the public see the error and injustice of this action, but the Prime Minister and those around her do not. I have never been so disappointed, or embarrassed in a Prime Minister as i am now.
Posted by: Ant McLean | Jan 24, 2013 at 07:41 AM
Gillard knows she is gone at the election this year. She also knows that history will remember her as the wrecking ball that destroyed the ALP. Her selection of Peris is a disingenuous attempt by her to cast herself in a better light for the history books. The fact that she is prepared to exploit an aboriginal person to bolster her credibility speaks volumes as to her true commitment to indigenous people.
Posted by: Kevin Rude | Jan 24, 2013 at 08:07 AM
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