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Looks interesting but heck, this is only a commercial for the upcoming series on Discovery Channel so who knows. Anyway on March 7th we get to see for ourselves.
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I think at one time there was a post here, or the Northwest site on bunkers, there were several avalible options for sure. It was pretty interesting some of the set ups they had. Even some log and earthan structures were in there too. Pretty cool, just to bad we have to consider these things though. The way things are now it makes me wounder if maybe I should have considered the old S.A.C. sight I saw for sale back in the late 70's. It was a 25 acre peice and all in/on it, genarators complete comercial type kitchen and the whole works, completley self contained facility, just early 60's vintage. If I remember it went for something like 35000 or something and eventually ended up as part of the Adirondack Park with surface the traces baried and planted over. Barley could put a concrete box in the south 40 no less set it up, for that now. And especally a facility like that one, the old man took me there once years ago. He used to do the comunications systems for the State of NY in the upstate area and some of there main stuff was there so we had access to it. It was pretty neat and spooky all at the same time, don't think I'd like that life style if i had my choice.
If I hit the Powerball Lottery, I'd buy one of the old missile silos and convert it, like some have done. Nice big elevator to get the car collection up and down, nice living areas, TONS of storage for food, water, ammo, guns, etc.... Put in a nice self contained air scrubber system. Put in a few BIG gas, diesel, and natural gas storage tanks. I would try and set it up to be as self sufficient as possible. Stock it up like you're never gonna leave, ever. Make your hole your own "country" basically.
Japan makes small nuclear reactors in different sizes to power a few homes or a complex for about 20 years.
With the recent storms and associated damage, such "shelters" may become more attractive; the new "safe or panic room". It has always surprised me that a whole-house approach is not taken. Insulated concrete form (ICF) construction is a good choice, but dry stacked "cinder blocks" (CMU) are also viable. ICF construction seems the most promising. Inside condensation issues are eliminated (as in a sweating toilet tank). Dry stacking is more DIY. Storms (of all manner) often strike at night, with little warning, and no time to retreat to a shelter. Why not make the whole house safe? This would also eliminate unnecessary duplication of spaces/functions. No need to have 2 kitchens... unless you REALLY like to cook. Since dirt serves well to stop projectiles (reference "sand bags") berming the structure adds another level of security; or at least a berm perimeter. I know folks in tornado alley who live in underground or bermed homes. Perhaps they are ahead of the time...
Not sure if any of you caught the show last night, but it was interesting. High end money that most folks couldn't afford. Main one they were dealing with last night was a 1700 sq ft unit for $450,000.00!!!!!!!! Damn nice though. Basically a steel walled house underground. From the inside the only give away that it wasn't a normal home was no windows. Other than that it was paneled and dry walled, carpeted, furnished, etc.... like any other home. Nice stairwell leading down to it, with a pretty dang strong blast door to keep out the neighbors. Nuclear, Biological, and Chemical resistant air purification system, unlimited water supply from an aquifer 700' below the unit. Full sewer/septic system. Definitely well thought out by the manufacterer and owner. I would absolutely love to have something like that, but unless I hit the lottery or a long lost rich uncle dies, and leaves me a buttload of $$$$$, it's the stuff of fantasy. Fun to watch and dream though.
That blast door was a joke. After shoving a wood 2X4 through an $8K commercial blast door, they essentially built the same thing with a few extra layers of sheetmetal. I'm paying a half mill for a bunker, I want a door that weighs about a ton, is constructed of multiple layers of THICK steel, Kevlar, concrete etc. in a sandwich that will stop projectiles, blasts, and cutting torches. Of course, the smart guys just dig down to the bunker wall and cut through it, only 3/8" steel sheet. That's why I would encase everything in a couple feet of concrete before backfilling.
OTOH, the little autonomous robot that fires on anything that moves? Gimme about a dozen of those things with MAG58s attached, 1000rd belts in place.
I am always amazed at how little the "experts" really know.
In an abundance of caution, the show does not depict how the install is done, there could have been a concrete pour that happened off camera.
What I saw that set off my alarms and pegged by bullshit meter was:
1. The entrance was sad to say the least. No attempt at hardening. No attempt at camouflage.
2. No clue how or if they water-proofed or sealed the unit.
3. Why, in Gods name would you put a generator outside the shelter where you could not get to it???
4. How do you E&E if the gomers are camped out on your doorstep?
4. I tend to fall back on the very traditional wisdom when talking about these things.
a. Any fixed fortification, by any name is obsolete. So we rely on camo, and decoys to distract the bad guys.
b. If you plan for 6 months, you had best prep for 18 months.
c. 100 lbs of ammo costs $300. $100 lbs of rice, beans, and grains cost less than $35. What is most important?
d. The reality that is lost on the folks that the show depicts, I think is that this shelter will be the only home that they will ever again have should things go poorly in our world. 1100 Sq. Ft. is not that much.
I have started working with a buddy of mine, and we are going to design and implement a workable DIY shelter system that is made of shipping containers.
I know all about what has been written on the subject, and I have seen all of the info on the web....
Our plan, simply put, is to invert the shipping containers, construct a simple false floor and fill that with storage and water tanks, add an exoskeleton similar to what you might have noticed on the show last night that includes the ease of adding rebar horizontally, and can be built in several configurations to suit individual needs.
Our plan is a not for profit one.
We shall see what the future holds, in the mean time stock up on rice, beans, and grains. Cheap, and will carry you a long way. Add some sugar, salt, pepper and other bulk spices, then worry about the meat, and the freeze-dried stuff.
The shelters seem really good for protecting you from everything but people. Even though protecting from people seemed to be the focus of the show. It seems to me that "people" would dig you out of there easily even with simple shovels. I agree that only the dumbest would go after the thing through the door. I think that I would go ahead and clog any vents that stick out of the shelter as well if I were breaking in. Lets see how long you stay in there without air to even vent the smell of your farts. The single bunker with a single family inside just dosen't seem substainable if anyone finds the bunker. I think that you would need to somehow cover the outside of the bunker so that people can't pick at any of them however they want. Since we're dreaming here, I would want two or three smaller bunkers that are capable of covering each other via some type of hardened gun ports. I just don't think that the lone wolf works out to well when the human factor is involved.
all the above observations seem very valid, interesting concept
my whole problem with this episode was the reverse polarity idea????????????, I can see floods, rains, tornado' hurricanes, economy on collapse, social upheavel, O getting re-elected but of all the disaster scenerios
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Re: Magdalen Islands, Les Îles-de-la-Madeleine, QC
We too are planning a trip to the Magdalen Isles this summer. Leaving Bridgewater NS mid Jul and spending 2 weeks in Cape Breton for 'Race the Cape'. Then 10 days in PEI before heading to the Isles. The return trip will take us along the west coast of Cape Breton and then back home. May see you on the water.
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I think Cap-aux-Meules (Grindstone) is the only place where you can rent moped's. CAA is probably the best place since it is fairly close to the harbour, but there are probably other places too.
Entry Island is a good walking area. It has gravel roads and little traffic. There is a restaurant/cafe, a little museum (English), lighthouse, Big Hill (tallest on the islands), etc.
La Grave and La Cote (Havre-Aubert and Etang-du-Nord harbours) have a lot of little shops that are great for looking into the Acadian culture. Site d'autre fois is interesting with a miniature village and life size structures depicting what life was like in the past. It is always good to know how things evolved.
La Salicorne (Grande-Entree) gives walking/kayaking/biking tours plus other interesting activities.
Mines Seleine gives tours now too and has it's own eco-museum. It gives ideas on how the islands came into existence as well as the mining of salt. The Hydro power plant also gives tours explaining the history of power to the islands and the process of getting the power to where it is needed here on the islands. There is a little fishing museum in Grindstone also..., off hand I can't remember the name of it.
There are a couple of self-guided tours of the East Point Wildlife Reserve which end up on the big beach. And there is Brion Island Ecological Reserve but you need a guide to go into the provincial side of the reserve. Still the Canada side is a good days worth of walking, lol.
Thanks for the info....I am taking notes. Have sent for all the info that the province provides and have downloaded some maps. Next time in Halifax will pick up the charts.
We mostly just like to walk around but the moped thing looks interesting, we may rent a couple of those if we want to go inland.
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There are several harbours in which your can tie up. La Grave at Amherst (Havre Aubert), Grindstone Harbour (Cap-aux-Meules), Etang-du Nord harbour, Grand Entry Harbour (Grande-Entree). Grosse Ile and Entry Island harbours are English speaking communities. There are restaurants near all of the harbours, except perhaps Grosse Ile.
I don't know if any of the harbours having showers but there should be toilets on each of them. The tourist guide should say....
Old Harry Beach has a beach house with paid showers and toilets. But Old Harry is on the northern most inhabited island relatively close to Grand Entry Harbour.
There are seven inhabited islands and twelve islands all together. Will you have a means of island travel?
The travel guide http://www.tourismeilesdelamadeleine...g-696-home.cfm
With a maximum draw of 5' you will be able to tie up alongside the permanent wharf, space permitting, giving you access to power and water. In the map image below the Marina is near the bottom in "Site Historique La Grave".
Wow...thanks for all the info and addresses, I will certainly order the brochures and maps.
After reading your post, I can hardly wait for summer to arrive.
|Thanks again for the info. My boat only draws 18" with the boards up and 5' with them down, so I don't need a lot of water to anchor. Appreciate the info, thanks again.
Hello from Prince Edward Island... and a part time resident of Havre-Aubert, Îles de la Madeleine, Québec. I am a former deep sea navigator (Arctic Canada, Greenland, Europe etc.) and power boat (former lobster boats) operator on PEI and in the Magdalen Islands. Havre-Aubert does have a fine, small marina with all the facilities you will need to access. I have been a member. It is located in a charming and very popular touristy community called "La Grave" which is well endowed with numerous shops, restaurants and cafés. The commercial & administrative centre of the archipelago, Cap-aux-Meules is on the next island, connected by a highway across a series of dunes about a 20 minute drive by car. The entire series of islands highway system is 82 km long however there are numerous other scenic & community roads well worth driving. It would take weeks to tour all the roads. Moped, bicycle and car rentals are available on the islands. Reservations for cars and mopeds should be made very early as there is extremely strong demand in July and August.
You should be able to anchor off the marina with out any challenges.
Here is the marina contact info:
Club Nautique Les Plaisanciers du Havre
c/o Réal Boudreau
984, Route 199
Havre-Aubert QC
Réal should be able to provide you the latest information on depths, moorings etc. There is an expansion of the marina in the works. Communication during the winter may be challenging as many residents travel during this period.
I strongly recommend ordering a copy of the excellent little visitor's guide for the Magdalen Islands (available in English & French):
In pdf and hard copy ( I recommend ordering a hard copy plus the maps): Order our Brochures - Magdalen Islands for vacation and tourism in the Gulf of the St-Lawrence in Quebec, Canada
Should you have general questions about visiting the islands I recommend contacting the local Visitor Information Centre:
Tourisme Îles de la Madeleine
128, chemin Principal (corner Chemin du Débarcadère)
Quebec, Canada
Phone : 418 986 2245
Toll Free : 1 877 624-4437
Fax : 418 986-2327
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The marina has a passionate & friendly membership and are very welcoming to visitors from away.
Caution... you will absolutely fall in love with this place
I am trying to remember whether you can anchor at Havre Aubert. There were about five cruising boats there and all were tied up to the very substantial dock in front of the Club Nautique. There was a reasonably large bay next to the dock but I seem to remember that it was quite shallow. You could ask the locals about the actual depths since the chart was not very detailed.
It is lovely spot to visit, enjoy.
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Thanks for the response. We would spend at least a week visiting and you are right, we would not require accommodations as we like to anchor, but we would like to find a place to tie up once in a while to go out for dinner, have a shower, do some laundry and restock some groceries and water. We would visit both islands if at all possible.
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well boys, this is one time i'm glad to be a cannuck. we have no regulations regarding exhaust, there is no sniffer trucks that i,ve ever seen in nova scotia, once or twice a year the dept. of transport will have a roadblock (thats bad) but i've never been stopped in my life.
the local garage will install with no cats and certify it. the only deal is if i ever get caught with the bad exhaust, tell them i just did it since the last inspection.that goes for the 295/50/15's on the 75 vette too.
First thing I would do is put Virginia in my rear view mirror. Next to California, no other state has such idiotic motor vehicle laws. Or if not bring your vehicle to Western North Carolina and you can get what ever exhaust system you want installed and then fight with your state inspectors every year.
|thanks for the replies everyone. Fiscus thanks for the link but I've already looked into a prebent system but none of them end in the correct location for the trans am "quad pipe" exhaust tips that i wish to put back on. The only company that does provide this system is pypesperformace, but their system doesn't allow space for catalytic converters. My friend is aware of what you would call the "muscle car" shop around town, its possible that they would weld it up, though I haven't asked or been quoted a price yet. If they could weld up the duals I hope I could still get inspection stickers. My dad is really big on that too, trying to keep it so everything will pass inspection, though we've already scrapped the computer and about 90% of the smog pump hoses. (exhaust manifold and cat aspiration tubes all gone). Anyone had bad inspection stickers encounters after putting "true" duals on a single cat car?
I am not sure what companies make exhaust systems for your car, I looked around and couldent find much. I would do like someone else said and go to an exhaust shop to get a custom bent system. As far as the dumps go, you dont have to open them on the streets, but I know how parents can be, on my first hot rod, my dad and I had talked my mom into loaning me the money for a motor, it was a stock headed 9.5:1 355 with a stock bottom end and 330 hp. She said yes, and we told the builder to get started. My mom went to work and someone there told her that since the motor was balanced that meant it was a racing motor. She said that because of that she wasent going to pay for it and we had to tell the builder who had the motor half built that we couldent pay for it.
good luck
Find out where the the muscle car guys get their exhaust work done in your town, there should be some place in your city that will do it. If worst come to worst you could order a kit off summit and install it yourself, they have some nice cheap ones.
i wish it were that easy
but seriously, theres no way im doing exhaust dumps, I'm 17 years old and my dad wouldn't be too happy the noise. I'm lucky enough he let me buy a ZZ4.
i hate this ****sucking emmisions bull****.
i say build the exhaust the way they want it then add two cable operated cut outs when you get home.
and when they pull u over and inspect, if they dont like it,
do a big *** smokin burn out and flip em off.......just before you go to jail of course.
|Thats what I think im going to end up doing, not the exhaust dumps though. Single cat that spreads back out into duals was stock on the trans am. Still like to get others opinions on the dual exhaust thing and what not. But your saying it is possible to go from the headers to single cat?, it seems as if it would be a 90 degree bend from the drivers side header over the the passenger side pipe and another 90 degree bend blended into the other pipe and cat. Would this stock setup help the cat work almost as an H or X pipe set up? I'm not too sure if the scavenger capabilities are able to occur within the cat itself. thanks for the reply firestone. If anyone else can chime in please do
I dont know if this is someting that they would do, but I would run exhaust dumps right off of the headers, and then have the exhaust go into one with a single cat. If you wanted to after that you could have it break back into duals for the sound and looks. That way it would still have good sound/performance on the street, and still pass the single cat rule, but you could uncork the exhaust at the track and have open headers. I ran a similar setup on a car of mine (no cats though it was a 72) and it worked very well.
yes, another exhaust thread
Thanks in advance for viewing my post even though there are a thousand exhaust posts already. Ok, here goes.
Just finished putting a ZZ4 crate motor in my 81 Trans (2nd Generation F-body) and I need to get exhaust welded up soon. I put new Hooker long tube headers and sawzalled everything out from those back. For the new setup, I want true duals with 2 cats, mufflers and and H pipe. I've asked two local muffler shops around town, and both say they cannot weld that setup because it will be illegal. They say I need one single (giant) cat that came like the stock exhaust. I could go with a highflow cat of this type aswell. My question is has anyone had long tube headers with this single cat setup. Also, how am I seeing so many 70-81 F-body cars with true duals, getting inspection stickers, I know for most of that 2nd gen. era they all had the Y pipe exhaust with single cat. If I am able to get a shop to weld up true duals, which cats are prefered for the set up, since the single cat will no longer be receiving air injection from the air pump, and i dont have the O2 sensors before and after on dual exhaust (needed for new cats to work correctly with correct air fuel ratio). If Virginia starts implementing the sniffer test which i hear they might do, i would like to pass....or end up getting antique tags.Anyhelp would be greatly appreciated.
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As Bill posted "KILLER BEES" is tabloid hype. If it were true there would be very few people living in Africa. Yes African bees are more aggressive that the bees we keep, as wolves can more aggressive than the dogs we keep. Its a question of approach and dealing with them accordingly. They can be managed though just look at all the beekeepers in Africa. A true storyWhen I was a young man living in Africa I was riding my motorcycle wearing literally just a thin short sleeve shirt, shorts and flip-flop sandles when a swarm flew into me. I looked like Finsky's photo,but head to foot. I stopped ,dismounted and carefully brushed the bees off, the hardest was getting them out of my hair(which was rather long at the time, being the late 50's) It took about ten minutes to strip off and remove the bees and bearing in mind I was no beekeeper then, did not get stung once. Also bearing in mind I was travelling about 30 miles an hour it was quite an impact for the bees I think that should of caused some aggression on their part too.
THere is a story about where the term "KILLER BEE" came from. Seems some General down South didn't like the Scientest that the bees got away from. SO he blamed every sting and death on the excaped "killer bees'. Anyone know where that story is found?


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As in so many of such cases, it is important for all facets of the media to shine the light of truth on activities of security groups which use "state secrets" as an explanation of their control of information as to what the public has a right to read. Human rights Watch says Kazakh authorities have failed to live up to promises that freedom of the press will be allowed in their nation.


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I decided that a possible paintball armor project may be on the horizon. I feel if this is done, that this can be a turning point for this kind of thing of costuming. A transistion from just-for-show armor (no offense intended) to a workable, practicable armor for a form of combat, in this case, paintball. Doing this will prove its practicality in a reality situation (despite some realistical details that are only available in the star wars universe), rather then just seeing it in the comics or movies.
I thank, and give full credit of future templates to wizardofflight. I have the motivation, the armor tester (me)...dont worry, i'll be wearing a cup
All I need now is to figure what I'm gonna make it with. Already ruled out rubber, for the fear of melting like the wicked witch from the wizard of oz. Bucket made armor sounds like a good route, but Im afraid of the bucket material being too flimsy or weak for paintballs. I am open to any suggestions, perhaps I should just buy a bunch of different sheets of stuff, and have someone shoot me with a paintball gun, and I'll choose the one that dosnt hurt as much
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Discussion in 'December 2008' started by Dlev59, Dec 4, 2008.
Then I'll REALLY get the blame...lol
Yo! The postgame show is up! Check it out: http://www.pistonsforum.com/view-podshow.html
This idea of Curry's was a joke. You add an up tempo player, AI, so you have to substract one in Amir. Let me tell you how reality works. Players who run love to have other players who run along side them. Adding AI, absolutely should have met that Amir was just that much more valuable. What If AI goes for a steal, something he loves to do. Do you really want Kwame Brown in there to rotate over to cover the free man if AI's steal attempt is unsuccessful? Of course not, you want Amir in there. The one reason that does make sense for the switch, and its a stretch, is that we lost a tough player in Billups. By switching to AI, it left us with a thinner unit. But wait one moment, size is worthless if it does not get to the play. If multiply Amir's size by the area he covers, it comes out to a whole lot more compared to the same measurement of Kwame. Against most teams, you lose far too much in the switch from Amir to Kwame. One more thought. Its perfectly legal to sub Kwame in for Amir when needed. Curry had it right in the first place. He should go back to where he started, with Amir in the starting unit. And if you really need more toughness, start JMAX at small forward (or actually, just start Amir and JMAX together as a pair of forwards) you will have all the toughness imagineable. Tay could come off the bench.
Thats a good theory. I will have to re-watch the Clev game ( think I still have that ). Thats when the Pistons were able to execute before Clev was able to setup. Have to see who was playing then, you are probably right though. Whatever Curry has been doing has not been working.
If Kwame were to start it should of been with Chauncey. Then we would just have more size. We always had a slow, half court starting lineup. I honestly like the idea of bringing Rip off the bench. It would be the only way to make full use of his mid range/running off of screens game now that Chauncey is gone.
And, Rip can't run fast breaks, as he is a horrid passer and a poor finisher at the basket. So, AI, Afflalo, Prince, Amir, and Sheed is the way to go. Sheed rebounds the ball, makes a strong outlet pass, trails the play by setting up at the three line. Amir and Tay run the wings, AI and Afflalo push the ball up. If the other team checks everything else, Sheed kills them with the wide open 3 ball.
That would be a very good lineup but it wont happen. If Rip or AI sits Stuckey will start. Its sad to see no changes because things are obviously not working. Change the damn starting lineup and the rotations. What is even more frustrating is that is only 1/100 of our many problems.
I say DVR the rest of the season until they break out of their funk. They have to learn to play well without being distracted by your DVR. These are grown men.
Good one CJ.
Shameful. I saw this start coming once I saw the time of the game. These guys will not hesitate to use whatever excuse is nearby. Too many games in a row? Too few games in a row? I'll take one of each. The start of the second half was the best they've played defensively probably all year (and they weren't even playing that well). I'm not counting the fluke bits against CLE or SA. They were able to play straight man to man and looked alive against the pick & roll. This might make a difference if they weren't down 30. If they could play like that consistently they wouldn't have games like last Friday. That would take pride though and the excuses are more handy. Has a team ever played more small ball and had as much difficulty with the P & R. Shouldn't they just be able to switch. AI is like a moth to the flame on those things.
I have to agree with that. That's the starting lineup I'd like to see. Afflalo's shot has been getting better and better and his defense is probably the best on the team right now. Amir should be able to prevent AI's man from getting layups without having to foul.
Small ball. ugh, I can't even begin to express how much I hate having Tay at PF. Suddenly I'm glad I don't have any extra time to worry about this team's ongoing drama and Curry's screwy lineups. I mean, New York? Really?
Perhaps its a good thing thing i'm at work more than i've ever been. The Pistons are a much smaller priority than they've been in the past, and like you alexa, i don't really have the luxury of extra time any more. and i'm with lpgrl in one respect, Iverson's depressed, suicidal interviews have already done a number on me.
That's a creepy avatar PA. Is that Chauncetonio McDyessups?
Judging from the Chauncey smile on Dice's face, yes.
lol, its Chauncio McBillups. It's the exemplary Pistons photoshop: It's actually only Chauncey's grin. It's creepy because the eyes and nose are completely interchangeable.
You should head over to Isla Mujeres while you're there. Much better place than Cancun. The island is so chilled and its only 20 minutes on the ferry. It's funny how many tourists go to the Hotel area of Cancun but never the city (which is a dump mostly). I think that hotel area should have its own city name, its nothing like Cancun. Maybe Cancun de tourista?
Great show man, thank you so much and I love it.
You may not have a face for the internets, but you sure got the voice. This was the first one I was able to check out. That was really good.
The first one?!?!?! Ernie I'm appalled. It's time for you to call in and make up for missing all of these podcasts!
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Alright, any update below this is old and shouldnt be looked at with all your seriousness, haha. This interest thread is here only to see how many people are interested. I will still be doing a run but not any time soon. If you are interested, let me know, I will add you to the list. This list is not a commitment, meaning, if you cannot pay when I am ready, then it is alright.
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Alright guys, so the mask is still in its clay form awaiting perfection from a waste mold. I have made this interest thread solely to see how much interest there is for this mask to have a run. I dont need a minimum, so any amount of people will do.
The masks will be $60 each either finished or unfinished.
Finished Kit will Include:
-Different areas painted
-Damage added
-Various details added
-Hair Attached and Painted
-Elastic Band Attached
Unfinished Kit will Include:
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-Hair Attached and painted
-Bandaid for the top right of the mask
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The only difference about the unfinished and finished is that with the unfinished you can paint it yourself to your liking, but the finished will be painted and well...finished for you. Both come prepainted white, and with hair attached and painted. Unless you want to have a go at it by attaching the hair yourself, I will send you a packet of hair. Not my own, haha.
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I don't like the color
i don't get the idea behind this
No thanks. I love the squirrel, but the text ruins it. I suppose it couldn't have been helped in the context of the theme.
Really disappointed to see nine to five shadow didn't win. It was easily my favorite and the only one I'd consider out of the four. No offense to the others, they were cute, clever, etc, but I just wouldn't wear them.
Congratulations! I thought this would be third. (Sorry Derek aka King of 4th place.) That's two in a row for Mr. Dekonstruct. Wahoo!
Continue your happy dance and congratulations again!
Ahh grats on the win, still wish i had my 9 to 5 o' clock shadow...
Well to counter-balance the negativity of the first few posts I must say that I enjoy this design.
I've been waiting for this shirt all week! Oliphaunts, Mordor, and Gandalf! THANK YOU! To everyone... the awesome artist, woot, the academy, etc. so happy.
Come on woot... how many votes did it get? (congrats by the way dekonstruct, i'll be getting two of these ;-)
great shirt. I can wear it when I feel a little PMS comeing on
nitroneal wrote:Well to counter-balance the negativity of the first few posts I must say that I enjoy this design.
got 1 for work :D
elissakb wrote:No 5 o'clock shadow? I'm ANGRRRRY!!!!
Grrrrrrrrr! Just kiddin'. Glad this one won. With the way these shirts are fitting me, the guy on the Nine to five o'clock shadow shirt would've had his head poking out of my waist...with a gas mask on, no less. (If I tucked it in, anyways...) That would've been embarassing.
congrats on the win, i think this could have won the first time had it not been entered so late :D
seanck wrote:Really disappointed to see nine to five shadow didn't win. It was easily my favorite and the only one I'd consider out of the four. No offense to the others, they were cute, clever, etc, but I just wouldn't wear them.
I agree x100 derek got robbed. I can only hope that woot will print 9-5 o'clock shadow tomorrow, like they did on the last derby. I would've paid double for that shirt. Congrats to the winners, but i'll pass. Cmon 9-5 o'clock shadow for derby chimp
Mongoose777121 wrote:Ahh grats on the win, still wish i had my 9 to 5 o' clock shadow...
I REALLY want nine to five o'clock shadow! PLEEEESEEEE print it woot! The natives are getting restless
um, and why didn't they put number of votes received on this one? Don't they usually post that?
EDIT: I want to clarify that I like this shirt too and congrat Dekonstruct (sp). Not a hater, just trying to encourage the sale of both shirts
Hooray for bad days! In for one!
I agree it's a silly shirt that would probably get some laughs from friends if I wore it to class.
...But I could very easily draw that design on a red shirt with white fabric paint, rather than pay $10 and wait a week for screenprinting and shipment. Just like the Tag one. The America-as-a-circuit-board shirt was great, though.
wow you guys are so frekin negative about this shirt... why dont you put negative feedback somewhere else... your negativity is not going to get you a free shirt or anything, so stop tryin to think your all badass. you know what this shirt is so good that its actually gettin sold, if you think you can do better then do it
angry day...id like to give this shirt to a couple peeps
Anger makes me so happy, I ended up buying 3. :-Z
so what's the deal with this shirt then? is it some kind of inside joke i'm obviously not privy to.. or is it just what i see?
Sorry; this is just not me...
BTW very strange ---- I just started watching the first 3 episodes of firefly tonight!!
I'm in for a couple of these.
Great illustration style for this shirt... congrats on the print!
In for one. I can see myself needing this shirt weekly
In for one, it'll pair nicely with my old "Jerk Factory" shirt -- I missed the derby finalists, where's the image to the 9 o'clock shadow shirt that didn't get printed?
Congrats dekonstruct. Also, I don't think it's fair to blame this shirt for not getting the shadow one - since there were two others that also pushed it out. Love the design.
I've been waiting for this one all week!!!!!
This will be fun to wear to work on Mondays.
Love the shirt. Congrats on back-2-back derby wins.
I'm in for one. My wife loves this design. Would have liked to get a print of 9-5 as well, but that doesn't take anything away from Angry Day. It was a tough derby contested to the last minute! I can't wait to see the final vote tally.
I quite like this one.
...and so it shall be mine.
AdderXYU wrote:In for one. I can see myself needing this shirt weekly
I need it daily.
SuperNinja wrote:I need it daily.
So do I, but I can't afford 7, and I might want to wash it now and then
This design makes me laugh every time I see it. Got one (yay!) to wear to work.
I'm angry that some people are passing. grrrr in for 2
hmm...not a bad color, decent idea, just not digging the whole jist of the package...
Looks like something an emotionally disurbed kindergardener would draw.
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Dr. Hollis Monroe specializes in short-terms relationships, typically eight months or less. As an obstetrician dealing with high-risk pregnancies, she spends all her time and energy in caring for women at a nice, comfortable professional distance until she delivers their babies and can walk away. They're happy, she's satisfied, and no one gets hurt. The perfect relationship.
Pregnant mother-to-be Annie Colfax is alone and barely making ends meet - she didn't plan on starting a family by herself, but she's determined to succeed. All she had to do is survive.
Neither woman wants a relationship, but fate brings them together at a crossroads that will change their lives forever.
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"Good but not her best."
The reintroduction of Honor Blake and Quinn Maguire.
The conversation between Arly and her mom when 12 year old Arly was asked to a party by a boy who was 16. I loved the image of Honor had of Quinn throttling the boy.
The distinct voice variation between Annie and Hollis.
Annie Colfax because I'm a sucker for blonde hair and green eyes.
"Good Story, Excellent Narration"
I noticed a lot of reviews of this audiobook were critical of the novel's author for becoming boring and predictable with her storytelling. For myself, this was my first introduction to the author, Radclyffe, and I found the story to be enjoyable and felt the narration of the book was excellent.
I held off at first from giving Radclyffe's novels a try because I noticed that most off her novels available on audible.com centered around characters in the medical field. Not being a part of that field, I wondered if I would be able to connect with the characters. I was pleasantly surprised and have enjoyed each Radclyffe audiobook that I have heard so far. I recommend giving this audiobook a listen and I, myself, have listened to it several times.
"The narrator makes the story!"
I didn't read the print version (although I own it...oops, double purchase), but I think that Lauren Fortgang MAKES this story. She is an excellent narrator, and each character has a distinct voice, especially Annie and Hollis. There was never a question over who was "speaking" in the story. So I highly recommend the audiobook version of this book. I am not sure if I would have enjoyed the print version as much without Fortgang's narration.
I've heard that this book is a lot like Radclyffe's other medical romances. I haven't read any of them, but I plan to, so I might edit this review someday.
HOLLIS. :) But then again, I'm a sucker for intelligent women with dark hair who can hold their own, have angst, AND build things. <3 Plus Fortgang's husky voice for Hollis was, erm, amazing. ;)
LOL I don't know.
"i just think they could have been more"
i really enjoy the story line and the steamy kisses . I just felt hurried in the end. good story over all just not one of radclyffe best.
"one of the best narration!!!"
I love Radclyffe writing. After reading lots of her books I feel like bring spoiled and allow myself to be picky. it is a great book but there are some others that I like better. It is the narration who elevate the experience to pure pleasure.
"What can you say? It's Radclyfe"
There are so many really good characters in that series, it's really hard to say that one is my favorite. If I had to choose, Annie.
The characters were very well done. When a child character is involved it's always a toss up if the narrator can handle that. She did well and gave the kids a believable voice.
I like the name it has.
Would highly recommend
"My first Radclyffe, and I loved it"
I chose it at first because I he so much in common in the book as I am in my obstetrician/gynecology residency. It was well written and accurate on many levels.
"Solid listen"
This was a good quick summer listen. The performance was well done. The premise has been done a million times before but who cares. Give this one a try.
"Great book"
I absolutely loved the story line! I would definitely recommend this to my friends to read. The author sure had a way of painting a colorful picture for the readers.
"Excellent Read"
Yes, I have listened to this book a few times, and I just love it!
No, I haven't but she is GREAT! A+A+A+
A must read!! Excellent book, the author rocks!
"A bit too much like the other stories for me."
I have enjoyed other stories by this author, however, for some reason I found this one lacking overall. It just seems a bit too much like the same thing rehashed somehow, but that could just be my personal take, I have no doubt there will be others out there who enjoyed it and that's fine. It's not bad, just personally I do not think it is not the best by this author.
"great book, was well worth the wait"
i have not read the print version
all the moment that Annie kept on lusting at Hollis' arse until she finally confessed.
no, this is my first book by her.
actually no i was just waiting to see if Annie would really let Hollis walk away from her and not do anything about it. but it was really a good book despite it not having a lot of intimate scenes.
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Discussion in 'January 2012' started by roscoe36, Jan 12, 2012.
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This one has some potential. I can't believe that this isn't the Friday ESPN game.
Since this is a game that has direct implications on our lottery prospects, we'll win decisively.
Should be close..........Tay needs to drive the tank.
Game is at Charlotte...... We stand at 2-9...... Charlotte also at 2-9...... Team with the most steals wins......... Charlotte by 4...........
Tonight would be a good oportunity for Mike Jordan to lace 'em up and drop 20 on Tay just for fun. If I owned a team, I'd probably do this kind of stuff from time to time.
The NBA must be trying to move League Pass subscriptions by not making this a national game. Anything for another dollar.
Breakout game from DJ Augustin White coming up.
VS The NBA ...BIG things are coming!
I predict Biyombo will block Gordon at least once.
OK...I feel like an idiot...why can't I find the game chat?
Wow the Bobcats are bad. Feels good to blow out a team after being manhandled 6 games in a row.
Good game, so happy to see the Pistons come away with a blowout WIN for once and put that 6 game losing streak behind us. Greg is continuing to be consistent. Not much more to say really, good game for him, just missed out on a double double. He's really thrived in this increased role so far. JJ's best scoring game in a while, leading the team in scoring efficiently, hitting 9 of 12, including a 3 late to help put the game out of reach. He did much better, grabbing 9 boards as well as recording 2 blocks. Granted, it's against the Bobcats who are also struggling, but it's nice to see regardless. Brandon did well also, was driving the lane early, then hit his final 2 3-point attempts (back to back) to start the run that would seal the game. Also recorded his first double double of his career, grabbing 10 boards to go with 13 points. Was active on defense right up until the end in garbage time. Tayshaun..I didn't really notice him for much of the game. Not happy to see both starting guards and Stuckey have more rebounds than him. Stuck is working his way back. Needs to develop a move other than 'hey!' and layups when driving to the rim so he doesn't get blocked so much. I like that he's playing off guard a bit more.
Battle of the 2-9 teams and the Pistons proved they were better of the two winning their first road game of the season and just missing their chance to score 100 for the first time this season as they spanked the Bobcats 98-81. If only the Bobcats and the 1-10 Wizards were on our schedule the next 5 games, we would look respectable record wise. Wins inspire more wins and hopefully this one will inspire a win on Sunday...but those Warriors will be running and we got to keep up with them. Tonights good! JJ stayed out of foul trouble and lead the team in scoring with 22 hitting 75% of it's shots and grabbing nine board. Knight continued to impress in his starting role and BG and Tay had a better night at scoring although BG still had a 4 turns.
Didn't see this one. But the boxscore looks good. JJ and Monroe along with Knight are our best players bar none. Nice to see rookie outrebound JJ and Monroe individually. Or maybe not too nice... Daye is following Gordon and CV out the door. Not really competing. Probably thinks the season hasn't started yet.
that cracked me up. love seeing a pistons team actually use pick-and-roll, love monroe examining the game and running the offense through him. fun game to watch
With today's totals, Knight has already surpassed Max in RPG average and total boards..........as soon as he can identify and find the right shooter in the right place on the floor, his assists will start to go up too. He already leads the team in made three pointers, where last year's three point threat Austin Daye is 0-10 for the season...
What's the record for most 3-pointers by a Pistons rookie? I'd imagine Knight has a chance to set it, unless I'm forgetting about somebody obvious. Isiah- 17 Dumars- 3 Hill- 4 Houston- 35 Knight- 22 (through 12 games!) That is a 150 make pace for an 82 game season. Knight has more than Kevin Durant through 12 games and is pretty much tied for 10th in the league with way less playing time than the other guys on the list. This pace would also put him on pace to have finished 10th in the season last year, just ahead of Durant and Billups. Knight averages only 29 mpg, so I think that his per game pace is more than sustainable as his minutes increase. We may have ourselves a 3-point shooter.
Lindsey Hunter with 69. Then Okur with 38 and Jerebko with 36. I love this finder thing. http://www.basketball-reference.com...at=&c5comp=gt&c6mult=1.0&c6stat=&order_by=fg3 Special shoutout: Will Blalock tied for 28th with 1.
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- 1 pound plum tomatoes, halved lengthwise
- 1 tablespoon plus 1-1/2 teaspoons olive oil, divided
- 1 garlic clove, minced
- 1/2 teaspoon salt
- 4 ounces uncooked ziti
- 1 cup fresh broccoli florets
- 1/2 pound Italian sausage links, cut into 1/2-inch slices
- 1/4 teaspoon crushed red pepper flakes
- 3 tablespoons grated Romano or Parmesan cheese
- Toss the tomatoes with 1 tablespoon oil, garlic and salt. Place cut side down in a 15x10x1-in. baking pan. Bake at 450° for 20-25 minutes or until tender. Chop when cool enough to handle.
- Cook ziti according to package directions, adding broccoli during the last 4 minutes. Meanwhile, in a large skillet over medium heat, cook sausage in remaining oil until no longer pink. Add pepper flakes; cook 1 minute longer. Stir in tomatoes and heat through.
- Drain ziti mixture; toss with sausage mixture. Sprinkle with cheese. Yield: 2 servings.
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Told through Dinah's eloquent voice, this sweeping novel reveals the traditions and turmoil of ancient womanhood. Dinah's tale begins with the story of her mothers: Leah, Rachel, Zilpah, and Bilhah, the four wives of Jacob. They love Dinah and give her gifts that are to sustain her through a hard-working youth, a calling to midwifery, and a new home in a foreign land.
Dinah speaks of the world of the red tent, the place where women were sequestered during their cycles of birthing, menses, and illness; of her initiation into the religious and sexual practices of her tribe; of Jacob's courtship with his four wives; of the mystery and wonder of caravans, farmers, shepherds, and slaves; of love and death in the city of Shechem; and of her half-brother Joseph's rise in Egypt.
Passionate, earthy, deeply affecting, The Red Tent combines rich storytelling with a valuable contribution to modern fiction: a vibrant new perspective of female life in the age that shaped present day civilization and values.
Don't miss Anita Diamant at the 92nd Street Y.
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"The oldest story of all could never seem more original, or more true." (James Carroll, author of An American Requiem)
"Carol Bilger narrates with a warmth and melodiousness that echo the rhythm of the musical interludes that separate chapters." (AudioFile)
"Very Pleased"
I am a 25 year old man. This is not only a book for women. I absolutley loved it. It made me laugh and cry numerous times. The narrator was great and the writing was never boring or tedious. I highly recommend this book to anyone!
"The key word is 'fiction'"
First, I found this book to be a very enjoyable listen, and I thought the narrator did a fine job, especially with pronunciations and emoting. I'm always unpleasantly surprised by reviewers who rate a book low because it wasn't what they 'expected.' Listening to a book with an open mind and heart can bring a lot of unexpected pleasure. There is nothing offensive or blasphemous about this work of FICTION. It is not a Bible story nor does it claim to be. It is written and narrated in a lovely and poetic fashion, and paints a picture of what life MIGHT have been like for Dinah and her families in a time we know very little about. It is slow moving at times, heart-wrenching on occasion, but, in my opinion, it is beautifully written and a touching story. Open minds in search of an interesting listen might very well enjoy this.
"It's not the Bible"
This is a work of fiction, not fact or truth. Anita Diamant has taken a tiny bit of the Bible and created a compelling tale of triumph and tragedy, of happiness and sorrow, of hope and despair. If you are expecting a retelling of the Bible, then you will be disapponted.
The narrator was good, and the background music that is interspersed through the reading is beautiful. I personally think this book is meant to be read aloud, in true oral history fashion.
I loved this book. It is very entertaining. I heard it in a few days. Couldnt put my ipod down :) The reader did a great job and made you feel like she was really telling her story. Enjoy!
"highly-recommended -- fun, moving, thot-provoking"
This tale re-writes the bible story of Joseph, from the imagined perspective of the women involved. A fascinating read, rich as a fictional story and richer still as a subversive critique of the bible. The story dramatized how attuned the bible was to the male perspective - and how amazingly unattuned it was to the female perspective. As a man, I personally didn't feel insulted like the other reviewer (Andrew) felt by the portrayals of men, but maybe I'm just liberal. I also appreciated seeing how monotheism co-existed with polytheism for so long (long after Abraham smashed idols in his dad's shop), and how women and men may have viewed the introduction of monotheism very differently.
All in all, a fun, moving, thought-provoking, and beautifully-written story. Highly recommended.
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"A Great Read for Women's History Buffs"
One of my favorite courses in college was "The History of Women". This course explored the role of women beginning with Eve and went right through until modern times. One of the most interesting areas was exploring women of the Bible. We learned that the cycle of the earth/cycle of life were very much worshipped by women and respected by men until the onset of the "One God". As women were forced to worship the "One God" they forgot their past and no longer felt proud of their roles as women, their monthly cycles or their ability to bring forth new life. Instead they were made to feel ashamed.
The red tent was the place where women would gather when they were menstruating. It was a time to relax and discuss women issues. They were secluded from men and younger girls and older women would attend to the daily chores. It was also where they would go when giving birth or tending to the sick. As I read the story of Dinah and her mothers, I was somewhat envious of their times in the Red Tent and their rejoicing at their ability to be the ones to bring new life into the world.
The audible version was very well done. I only downloaded it as a "2" but think from now on I will download at higher versions to get a richer sound. The music was distorted at this level and the voice somewhat tinny. Still, the narrator did an excellent job and I was completely immersed into Dinah's world.
"The Red Tent"
I loved this book! I really enjoyed being told the story from the women's perspective. I would highly recommend it.
Sericulturalist and horticulturalist, mad scientist and earth oven baker.
"An Uplifting Midrash"
First, I would like to address so many of the previous reviews, who seem to be slaving away under the chains of delusion that make them think this is a work of "Christian Fiction". Just because it is about biblical figures, does not make it Christian Fiction. Christians do not own the bible, and especially don't own the Pentatuch. If one only wants to read Christian fiction and not be "disgusted and polluted" by other cultures, ideas, and ways of life and thinking, then do a little more research about the books you buy and about the authors who write them.
The author is Jewish, and the people she writes about are pagans who are struggling with trying to put on the coat of monotheism. They are converts! This book is Midrash.
Midrash is a way of dealing with biblical stories that goes beyond a simple boiling down of rabbinical legalism. It is an accepted and valuable way of interpereting scripture that keeps the text alive and fresh, and offers possible solutions for massive gaps left in biblical narration. It goes on every time a Jew studies and discusses the Torah, and forms a prayerful opinion of what the underlying meaning of a holy text may hold.
Many Jewish and even Muslim traditions, as well as some Progressive Christian traditions encourage this kind of discussion, supposition and reflection. They seek to learn what God really desires from his creation, and celebrate the reality of the gift of free will and free thought. When you close a religious Cannon what you get is a rotten corpse.
This book does have some very frank references to the human condition, especially where women are concerned. Personally I found them rather clinical, and in no way see how they could be confused with pornography. This is an adult book, but perhaps a mature and well-guided 16 year-old could process this material, but again, only with the proper guidance.
I can see how this book could be considered dangerous and confusing to people who have taken on the yoke of fundamentalist religion of any denomination. Those people might worry that a book like this could damage a fragile,weak, or flawed hold on fundamentalist "faith", especially by new converts or those prone to independant thinking and study.
A compass only points to "N" when the person who is holding it faces true north.
"Clever story telling"
I know its not the bible but it is not the "sacrilege" other reviewer claims it to be. This story is cleverly written and effectively puts the reader directly into the lives and very possible settings that the real Dinah and her mothers faced as the wives of Jacob, and mothers of his sons. I liked that it included not just Dinah's well known brief history but also the history of her mothers and the relationships of her brothers.
The narrator has good voice for this story and was easy to listen to. I am not ashamed to rate this book a 4 star!!Enjoy.
"Opens a new world"
This is one of my favorite books of all time! Ms. Diamant's imagery and tone allows the reader to step into the crowded, noisy homestead of the family of Jacob, son of Issac. The daily life of the earliest of God's chosen people is something that is passed over in the Bible in favor of the larger more dramatic issues that they struggled with, especially as it pertains to the life of the women and children. Bringing to life a fairly small slice of a fairly insignificant story in Genesis (Dinah, Jacob's only daughter is stolen and raped by the Prince of a nearby town), this book opened up - for me - the entire world that existed during the Old Testament. Suddenly my Bible, especially the harder to chew first five books of the OT, came springing to life, relevant and interesting like it never had been before. This book IS a work of fiction, it's not the Bible, but what it did for me was bring me closer to the Bible. Over the past ten years since I first read this book, I have read and collected more theological texts than I would have thought possible! Raised by adamantly non-practicing Jehovah's witnesses, I count this book as the key that led me to my faith. My relationship with God was immediately and permanently strengthened by reading this book, and then going back and reading my Bible with new eyes. I also view my relationships with my female family and friends differently, and have given this book as a gift to several of them.
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You haven't read Buddha's Brain (a bestseller in America)?
Review - Buddha's Brain
The Practical Neuroscience of Happiness, Love, and Wisdom
by Rick Hanson
Some chapters are excellently researched and full of useful instructions for meditative practices, while are others are repetitive, contradictory, devoid of supporting research and dotted with apparent attempts to pass off personal speculation as scientific consensus. The chapters are summarized below, and are followed by a more detailed discussion of two problems that I see in the book: a tension between traditional Western and Buddhist values that sometimes spills over into outright contradiction and sloppy use of research after the initial section.
Buddha's Brain starts off with an introductory chapter that outlines the format and the purpose of the book, which is to inform the reader about scientific findings that support the idea that progressing along a "path of awakening" (9) can help them improve their brain and "become happier and more effective in daily life" (8). The rest of the book is divided into four parts: the causes of suffering, happiness, love, and wisdom.
Chapter thirteen advises us to relax 'the self', especially considering that the self is just an illusion. by discussing research into the neuronal constituents of 'the self' in a very illuminating manner, this chapter persuasively argues that what we think of as our self is really just a story pieced together by our brain to make sense of the great swath of experiences that our brains have remembered. Again, this chapter is very contradictory, but at least Hanson admits it (217). And, in further defense of Hanson on this point, it is very hard to discuss the idea that we have no 'self' using Western language without being contradictory ('I think that I have no self' does not make sense on any normal reading because in Western Parlance 'I' refers to the self).
The second major problem I have with this book is the haphazard way that research is used. The first section of the book, and a few other subsections, contain lots of relevant research. Unfortunately, though, most of the book contains claims that are not fully supported by the reference given or, more commonly, are not supported by research at all (in some cases this even occurs when relevant research has been conducted). Of the many authoritatively stated but unsupported claims, one example is on page 187, where Hanson claims that you can quieten your mind (the random thoughts that pop into your head) by using "the power of prefrontal intention". The claim is not explained, let alone supported by the results of any kind of test. In the same chapter Hanson presents the speculative theory of another researcher as if it were an uncontroversial fact – that "the brain will sometimes start to hallucinate imagery just to have new information to process" (179 – my emphasis added). Finally, an example of Hanson not citing research for his claims despite that research being readily available can be found in chapter four; Hanson claims that actively thinking about the good things that happened to you each day can help you become happier, but doesn't refer to research by positive psychologist Martin Seligman and his colleagues that provides fairly rigorous support for this claim. This sloppy application of research would normally be forgiven in a self-help book, but this particular book claims to be using the latest in science to inform practical methods for becoming happier, rather than relying on speculation and persuasive language.
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The question you should be asking is "Should I even bother finding out more about this boat?" not "Will the hull deform without the bulkheads in it?"
IF the boat is just a hull that needs to be finished and doesn't have any rigging, spars, or sails... and you have to move it 2000 miles—RUN LIKE H3LL. The standing rigging, mast and boom on a 38' boat is likely to cost in the neighborhood of $20,000 new, less if you can find it salvage or used.
In general, you're much better off buying a boat in decent shape, that is sailable, than you are getting the same boat in the condition this one is for free, since refurbishing it is going to cost you more than buying the one you can use right away in materials alone. That doesn't even count the amount of time, labor, sweat, or blood that you'd put into the boat.
BTW, plywood as a deck core material is about the worst material choice there is. IMHO, it's got the worst characteristics of end-grain balsa and of foam core materials. It can rot like balsa, and it can allow water to migrate long distances like foam. It is also far heavier than either, and a deck made of it is a bad compromise IMHO. If there are any deck fittings through the plywood core, it is very, very likely that the whole deck is delaminating at this point, having sat for 30 years with tiny leaks letting water into the core.
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If it is deformed, getting it straight again may be a chore. Possibly floating it for a few months with some bracing pushing the hull back out where it's pushed in? I disagree with Cam about the fiberglass not taking a permanent set. I've seen boats that had to be pushed out from the inside and a stiffener added to keep the hull pushed out.
Let here float for a while, take measurements every month or two and see if anything changes. Find out if you can if the missing bulkheads are required or not... If you don't notice and changes tab in some bulkheads. If they are put under tension later everything should be just fine if the glasswork bonded correctly. If it fails you did it wrong and need to redo it anyway so get cutting!
I'd be sure to check any cored areas for water intrusion.
As for deformation, look for any ripples or dents that shouldn't be there, As Delirious said, being on a cradle is a lot better than sitting on jacks.
Can you get a sailplan for it? or is it a common enough boat that you can contact other owners to get specs and rig from there?
Sounds like a great opportunity to build the boat you want, I for one have never been happy with off the shelf boats, there's always a few things that I don't like about the layout so end up tearing things out and rebuilding. That boat puts you at the blank canvas stage, you can build it for your comfort and convenience.
Only other advice is to keep the purchase price down, sailboats without sails and mast are like powerboats without the engine, kinda hard to sell
|If it is deformed, getting it straight again may be a chore. Possibly floating it for a few months with some bracing pushing the hull back out where it's pushed in? I disagree with Cam about the fiberglass not taking a permanent set. I've seen boats that had to be pushed out from the inside and a stiffener added to keep the hull pushed out.
Thanks for the advice
I am looking for a project to start new or finish a worthy project already started. I am a metalsmith/craftsmen with a large studio to move a project indoors.
I would like to have this project completed in 4 to 5 years for offshore sailing and live aboard.
Any more advice?
no bulkheads
Thanks Camaraderie
The vessel has never been in the water. Deck and was factory installed, glassed in and bolted.
So, I think you are telling me, if the vessel was free it's too much. It's not free but less than the cost of materials to build from scratch.
No mast or boom but ten year old [new] engine and transmission. no other rigging, no interior, 2000 miles to move this project.
Is the keel fully supported? You should be able to spot deformation by sighting down the hull over the cradle supports. If it was a good cradle to begin with you may be OK. Is the deck/hull joint straight? Or hogged or sway-backed?
Is it a factory lay-up staged boat? As long as the keel is well supported and there is no rig it may be fine. The deck should have protected the bulkheads of the openings were sealed.
Get it surveyed. A bare hull should be at a discounted rate.
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Welcome aboard! You should never say "all comments welcome" around here!
I'd frankly be more worried about the plywood core after 30 years. If the interior is wide open I think it would be relatively easy to design and fabricate appropriate bulkheads and glass them in place. Fibeglass is not going to take a permanent set, but it will easily flex or deform if not properly supported. Assuming the deck is on the boat and secured, I can't see missing the bulheads as being a significant structural issue.
That said. I am going to assume a couple of things I probably shouldn't and say: RUN FROM THIS PROJECT...it will cost you more in time, $$, and sweat than you will EVER be able to recoup.
boat sitting without bulkheads deformed?
First post, so here I go,
If a heavy displacement hull with a full keel and ballast and deck installed but no interior or bulkheads ever installed, sat for thirty years outside in fair weather on a wood cradle, could the hull change shape or deform?
Factory built and assembled solid GRP hull and plywood core deck, 38 foot, 27,000 lbs., 10,000 lbs. ballast.
If it could deform, how could I tell? Would it want to spread?
Would some movement matter?
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Sandy • They were there to provide security, but video showed four Utah Department of Corrections officers stealing liquor from a party in Park City.
Three of the officers, Eli Ernest, Kyle J. Petersen and Kendrick J. Hawkes, received one-year suspensions of their police certifications on Friday. The punishments were issued at the quarterly meeting of the Utah Peace Officer Standards and Training Council.
Six other peace officers had their certifications suspended or revoked Friday. But before the council considered their cases, Salt Lake City Police Chief Chris Burbank asked why the council wasn't looking harder at excessive force cases.
Burbank said he's fired two officers whom the district attorney said violated Utah's use of force laws. The officers were not prosecuted.
Burbank said he reported their cases to the council, but no action was taken to suspend or revoke their police powers.
"It's our job to hold people accountable for their actions," Burbank, a member of the council, told his colleagues.
State law requires "clear and convincing" evidence a police officer broke the law before the council can take action. Some council members questioned whether a prosecutor's opinion was enough to meet that standard.
Layton Police Chief Terry Keefe, council chairman, asked staff to research how many use of force cases were reported and their outcomes and report the findings at the council's March meeting.
Other discipline cases heard Friday included Department of Corrections employee Russell Whittle. According to the report to the council, a pit bull was attacking his dog. Whittle broke up the attack, then tossed the pit bull against a wall. The pit bull had to be euthanized and Whittle was convicted of a misdemeanor count of animal cruelty. The council suspended his certification for six months.
Another corrections employee, Jason L. Johnson, huffed compressed air in his state car, passed out and crashed it into a pole, according to a report to the council. He received a three-year suspension.
The council issued a three-year suspension to Tooele County Constable James E. Houghtalen. He was found to have collected $150 from a party in a debt collection case and $300 in bail from a suspect, but did not submit the money or documentation to his employer.
The council tabled action against Utah Highway Patrol trooper Jon Gardner. The report said he was arrested on his motorcycle in Colorado on suspicion of impaired driving after a police officer smelled alcohol on his breath. He pleaded guilty to reckless driving. He has since retired from UHP.
The council's staff recommended a one-year suspension, but Ken Wallentine, chief of law enforcement for the Utah Attorney General's Office, asked staff to investigate Gardner's past discipline history so the council could take that into consideration.
In 2007, Gardner shocked a motorist with a Taser in an episode that went viral on YouTube. An investigation determined Gardner broke no laws. UHP paid the motorist $40,000.
Other discipline cases Friday:
• Patrick S. Donegan, UHP, received a one-year suspension for falsifying his log to show he was stopping more motorists than he really was.
• Timothy K. Jones, UHP, received a two-year suspension for assaulting a man in a relationship with his then-wife.
• Jared J. Anderson, Department of Corrections, had his certification revoked for harassing a woman through text messaging and misleading investigators.
The Utah Peace Officer Standards and Training Council consists of police chiefs, sheriffs and other law enforcement representatives from across the state. It meets quarterly to oversee the state's police academy and misconduct by officers already on the job.
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Posted on: 19 August, 2011
In an effort to reduce motor vehicle-related deaths and injury, the leading killer of children under 14, Safe Kids Oklahoma will sponsor a car seat checkup event from 5:30 p.m. to 7:30 p.m. Thursday [Aug. 25] during Family Fun Night at Wintersmith Park in Ada.
The car seat checkup will be held in collaboration with Smart Start South Central, the Chickasaw Nation, ECU Child Care Resource and Referral, East Central University and Ada Regional United Way.
Posted on: 17 August, 2011
Kevin Danel (center) of Hartshorne is named the Outstanding Student in Management Information Systems at East Central University. The presentation was made at the School of Business' annual awards banquet by Wendell Godwin (left), dean of ECU's School of Business, and Randy Harp, a 2004 ECU Distinguished Alumnus and the co-chief executive officer, chief operating officer and president of Pre-Paid Legal Services Inc. in Ada. Danel also received a scholarship for 2011-12, the Kenneth Rhynes Memorial Award, at the banquet last spring.
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Christopher Dalley (right) of Davis, a student at East Central University, is congratulated by Wendell Godwin, dean of ECU's School of Business, for receiving the Charles Fletcher Endowed Accounting Scholarship for the 2011-12 academic year that began Aug. 15. Dalley received the scholarship last spring at the school's annual awards luncheon.
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Seventeen East Central University students have been awarded funding under the NASA National Space Grant College and Fellowship Program for the 2011-12 academic year.
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Classes will begin Monday [AUG. 15] at East Central University. Enrollment remains near the record number set last fall, and residence halls are almost full. The last day to enroll is Friday [AUG. 19].
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The performer/songwriter who co-wrote "Eye of the Tiger" for Sylvester Stallone's "Rocky III," comedians, other musicians and a bonus Christmas program by America's premier doo-wop group are included in East Central University's 2011-12 Fine Arts Season, along with regular ECU theatre and music productions.
Season tickets are on sale until Sept. 1 for six national touring productions and five ECU Theatre and ECU Opera performances.
HIGHER LEARNING COMMISSION INVITES THIRD-PARTY COMMENT AS EAST CENTRAL UNIVERSITY UNDERGOES ACCREDITATION VISITPosted on: 18 July, 2011
East Central University will undergo a comprehensive evaluation visit Oct. 31 and Nov. 2 by a team representing the Higher Learning Commission of North Central Association of Colleges and Schools. ECU has been accredited by the commission from 1922-1934 and since 1947. ECU's accreditation is at the bachelor's and master's degree levels.


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Arsenal will face Shakhtar Donetsk, Braga and Partizan Belgrade in Group H of the Champions League this season.
Throughout Arsenal's European campaign, our weekly Euro Watch feature will check on the progress of the Gunners' rivals in their domestic leagues.
Borac Cacak 0-2 FK Partizan
Sunday, September 19
Partizan Belgrade continued their unbeaten start to the Serbian Super Liga season as they beat Borac Cacak 2-0 on Sunday. Second-half goals from Cleo and Miloš Bogunović gave the Serbian champions victory. Arsenal's next opponents in the Champions League have now won their opening five league games and sit two points clear of nearest rivals Crvena Zvezda. Arsenal travel to Belgrade for a Group H clash on September 28.
Paços de Ferreira 2-2 Sporting Braga
Sunday, September 19
Sporting Braga returned to league action after Wednesday's defeat at Emirates Stadium with a 2-2 draw away against Paços de Ferreira. There initially seemed no hangover after the heavy loss against the Gunners as Moisés' and a fine sole strike from Luis Aguiar 10 minutes into the second half put Braga two goals up. Wanderson Sousa got Paços de Ferreira back into the game in he 69th minute and Javier Antonio Cohene's injury-time header denied Domingos Paciência's men all three points. Braga are now fifth in the table with eight points from five games.
Shakhtar Donetsk 4-1 Tavriya
Sunday, September 19
Shakhtar Donetsk strengthened their grip at the top of the Ukrainian Premier League with a 4-1 victory over Tavriya on Sunday. Aleksandr Kovpak gave Tavriya a shock lead after just five minutes - though it didn't take long for Shakhtar to respond. Darijo Srna got his side back on level terms after 14 minutes and then three second-half strikes gave Mircea Lucescu's side a comfortable win. Goals from Luiz Adriano, Jádson and Henrikh Mkhitaryan's mean Shakhtar remain two points ahead of Dynamo Kyiv after 10 games.


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He owns a $400,000 Lamborghini Aventador with the license plate "WINNING." He calls his girlfriend "Concubine." He loves strippers. He lives in Long Island. He is a divorce attorney. He knows Ice-T.
His name is Bryan Salamone and he is the most stereotypical Lamborghini owner in the world.
Call me a hater because I don't have the money Salamone has — and probably never will. But after perusing the Facebook page (NSFW) for his Bullrun team I'm not sure I ever want to make that much money.