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Statement of Nicholas Burns
Professor of the Practice of Diplomacy and International Politics
Harvard University
Before the Committee on Foreign Relations
United States Senate
May 6, 2009
Chairman Kerry, Senator Lugar and members of the committee, thank you for the invitation to testify today on United States policy toward Iran.
I have testified to this committee in the past as a government official. This is my first appearance as a private citizen and thus the views that follow are entirely my own.
In many ways, I fear that the United States is on a collision course with the government of Iran. How we counter the multiple threats that Iran poses to our most important interests in the Middle East is surely one of our highest policy objectives. But, whether we can find a way to communicate more effectively with the government of Iran and to agree to negotiations on the issues that divide us is another important goal. This twin test of American effectiveness with Iran will be an early and central concern for the Obama Administration.
Consider the following ways in which American ambitions clash with those of the government of Iran:
--The Iranian leadership seeks a more powerful and perhaps even dominant role in the Middle East. In nearly every arena, it poses the major challenge to America's own power in the region. Iran's pursuit of a nuclear weapons future is a direct threat to Israel and our Arab partners. Its intrusion into the politics of Lebanon has been unhelpful and often destructive. Its opposition to a two-state solution between the Palestinians and Israel is a significant impediment to progress on that overarching priority;
--As the U.S. has sought to blunt and defeat the terrorist threat in the Middle East, we have found that Iran is the principal funder and even director of some of the most violent groups that sponsor terrorism in the region—Hezbollah, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, Hamas and some of the Shia militant groups in Iraq;
--Iran is an influential neighbor of the two countries where we are at war—Afghanistan and Iraq. It sometimes uses that influence in ways that are directly contrary to American interests. Is it possible to find common ground with Iran as we seek to promote stability in both countries?
Everywhere we look in the greater Middle East, Iran often plays a negative and troublesome role. As this region is now, along with South Asia, the most critically vital for American foreign policy, it is essential for the U.S. to fashion a more effective strategy toward Iran. For three decades, Iran and the U.S. have been isolated from each other and we presently have no real ability to communicate effectively. This is surely a situation we should not wish to see continue.
I therefore believe the Obama Administration has been correct in undertaking a full review of the present poor state of relations
between our two countries. The time has come for new and more creative thinking so that we might as a country defend where we must against Iran's more pernicious influence in the world but also find a way to engage its government and people where and when we can.
With this in mind, I suggest three guideposts for American policy that may help to frame this issue for Congress.
First, given the lethal nature of Iran's challenge to the United States, we must respond to it with seriousness of purpose, toughness and strength. One of our highest long-term priorities should be to maintain America's leading role in the Middle East and to deflect Iran's own ambitions.
Second, we need to recognize that the thirty-year deep freeze in our relations with Tehran has resulted in an extraordinary situation—we know precious little about the very government and country that looms so large as a negative influence on all that is most important to us in the Middle East. Isolating Iran, resisting any contacts between our governments and threatening regime change have not resulted in positive changes to its behavior on issues critical to our security. In the absence of diplomatic relations and the lack of a substantial American business or journalistic presence in Iran, we have no real basis to understand its government, society and people. It does not serve American interests for this deep freeze to continue.
Third, I therefore support a policy of strength but also realism and engagement with the government of Iran. We need to be firm in defending Israel and the interests of the Arab states uneasy with Iran's rise to power. We should continue to oppose Iran's pursuit of nuclear weapons. But, we should do so while simultaneously opening a dialogue with the Iranian government and people to test whether progress is possible through peaceful means.
Such a dialogue is most important on the most serious issue that divides us with Tehran—its pursuit of nuclear weapons. Some continue to argue that the only way to halt Iran's accelerating nuclear research effort is through American or Israeli air strikes. But, there is no convincing scenario where such use of military force would work effectively to end the Iranian nuclear program. Even worse, air strikes would undoubtedly lead Iran to hit back asymmetrically against us in Iraq, Afghanistan and the wider region, especially through its proxies, Hezbollah and Hamas. This reminds us of Churchill's maxim that, once a war starts, it is impossible to know how it will end. An America that is already waging two difficult and bloody wars should be wary of unleashing a third. Choosing military power at this stage would surely be precipitous and unwise.
That leaves diplomacy as the most plausible way to blunt Iran's nuclear ambitions. I have some familiarity with the difficulties and tradeoffs of a diplomatic approach. For three full years, between 2005 to early 2008, I served as the point person on Iran for Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice. We worked hard to find a path to the negotiating table with Iran.
In June 2006, we launched the most serious and ambitious American attempt since the Iranian revolution of 1978 to establish meaningful discussions with Iranian officials. Along with Russia, China, Britain, France and Germany, we offered Iran negotiations on nuclear and other issues. We were determined to begin talks with Iran and expected that negotiations would take place. Unfortunately, Iran rejected over the next two years repeated offers by the U.S. and its partners for talks. Iran walked away and missed a rare opportunity to pursue a better relationship with the United States.
Since then, Iran has accelerated its nuclear research efforts despite three United Nations Security Council sanctions resolutions. As you stated in your March 3 hearing on Iran, Mr. Chairman, the recent IAEA report indicates that Iran has expanded significantly the number of operational centrifuges at its uranium enrichment plant at Natanz. Iran has also continued construction of the Arak reactor. These developments and its ballistic missile tests all point to a future nuclear capability that could cause further instability and pose another risk to peace in the Middle East and beyond.
How should the new American government led by President Barack Obama respond to this open challenge? While I am not in a position to know what our government will ultimately do, I am frankly encouraged by the initial statements of the President and his team to take the offensive against Iran through strong and active diplomacy. In this sense, I believe we are fortunate, indeed, that President Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton have asked Ambassador Dennis Ross to coordinate our policy toward Iran. He is one of the most skillful and experienced public servants in our country and one of our foremost experts on the problems of the Middle East.
I think the Obama administration has made the right decisions on Iran in its first months in office. President Obama's new and positive appeal to Moslems worldwide, his video message to the Iranian people, his invitation for Iran to attend the UN conference on Afghanistan and his pledge that the U.S. will now participate in the P-5 nuclear talks with Iran, have all put us back on the diplomatic offensive with the Iranian regime. The absence of a clear Iranian government response to these steps is telling—accustomed to keeping the U.S. off balance in recent years, the Iranian leadership appears to not know how to respond to these more positive American initiatives. That is not an insignificant accomplishment at this early stage of the new administration.
Unfortunately, many in the Moslem world saw the United States, incorrectly, as the aggressor in the conflict with Iran in past years. They believed the U.S. was unwilling to meet with Iranian officials. They criticized the U.S. and its P-5 partners for imposing a condition on talks—the prior suspension of Iran's enrichment activities.
With the benefit of twenty-twenty hindsight, it would have been more effective in 2006-2007 if we had offered unconditional talks. Such an offer would have deprived Tehran of the excuse it used subsequently to some effect that such a conditional offer was unacceptable and unworthy of a true breaking of the ice between our two countries. And, the fact that there were no diplomatic contacts with Iran whatsoever during my three years as Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs was a reflection of the limitations of our approach.
In my judgment, President Obama has put the U.S. in a stronger position as he considers how best to proceed with Iran. He has taken a different path with the Iranians, showing openness and respect to the people of Iran and offering to have U.S. diplomats participate routinely in the P-5 talks with Iran for the first time without conditions.
The work ahead, however, will be even more challenging. The key question now is how to frame negotiations with Iran so that they have the strongest possibility of delivering the outcome we should want to have—engagement but with a resulting decision by the Iranian leadership to slow and stop altogether its pursuit of nuclear weapons and to accept intrusive international oversight of all of its activities.
As Senator Lugar mentioned in your March hearings, Iran is not in a strong international position as these talks begin. The decline in the world price of oil, the UN sanctions and the Ahmadinejad government's disastrous economic policies have all contributed to weakening Iran in the last year. Its transparent aim to become nuclear capable has caused nearly all its neighbors to seek its isolation. The new Iranian government to be elected in June may have to reconsider the type of offer most likely to be made by the international community—expanded economic ties and a return of Iran to the community of nations in return for a halt to its nuclear efforts.
While agreeing to negotiations, President Obama should not want to go hat in hand to the Iranians. As you stated in the March 3 hearings, Mr. Chairman, we must negotiate with Iran from a position of strength. President Obama would be wise to set a limited timetable for talks. He should make clear that the U.S. and others would walk away and impose much tougher financial and economic sanctions if progress in the negotiations is not made in a reasonable period. This would prevent Iran from running out the clock until they become nuclear capable.
It will be crucial that the President agree on the automaticity of these sanctions with the P-5 countries, especially Russia and China, in advance of talks. China has violated the spirit of the UN sanctions by becoming Iran's leading trade partner at the same time that our European allies have begun to withdraw from Iranian markets. Russia sells Iran arms and is helping Iran to construct its first nuclear reactor. If the U.S. is to break with past policy by meeting Iran halfway at the negotiating table, then it is only reasonable that our P-5 partners, most especially China and Russia, pledge to join us in draconian sanctions on Iran should the talks break down.
Most importantly, the President should renew his campaign position that all options will remain on the table. This marriage of diplomacy with the threat of force is essential, in my view, to convince Tehran it needs to make a difficult choice and soon.
Without this threat, I doubt Iran's leaders would take the talks seriously. The Iranian leadership wants more than anything else security guarantees from the U.S. We should not give them such guarantees until they have met our core aims. This does not mean that the U.S. should default to the use of force if diplomacy and new sanctions fail. And, as I have said in this statement, it is in our overriding national interest to resolve our differences with Iran peacefully. Let us hope that will be possible.
Any negotiations with Iran will likely be frustrating with only a modest probability of success. So, why does President Obama's diplomatic approach now make sense for the U.S.?
First, it may be the only way we will ever know if there is a chance for a peaceful outcome in our long-running feud with Iran. Before contemplating the use of force, it is in our clear interest to see if we can avoid war by peaceful means. Diplomacy's great promise is that one can never predict where discussions will lead once they are begun. Certainly, it would be unconscionable to start a war with Iran without having first given negotiations a serious and sustained effort.
Second, a negotiation may now be the most effective way to slow down Iran's nuclear progress. One of the first tactical aims of a negotiation should be to prevail upon Iran to freeze its nuclear research as the talks proceed. Otherwise, Iran may steam ahead unimpeded.
Third, negotiations would serve to isolate Iran even further internationally and put it on the defensive. An unconditional offer deprives Iran's leaders of the excuse not to negotiate. Our sitting down with Iranian leaders brings another advantage—it will significantly undercut Iran's ability to posture as the leader of the anti-American front among the radical governments and movements of the Middle East.
Finally, we will be no worse off if we try diplomacy and fail. In fact, we might be stronger internationally. Having made a good faith effort at diplomacy, the U.S. would be in a far stronger position to convince Russia and China and other countries to join us in tougher sanctions. It would not be in their interest to see President Obama left only with the military option. I also believe we would be more credible around the world if countries saw that we had tried in good faith to resolve the crisis peacefully.
A diplomatic opening to Iran will require patience on the part of Americans. Progress is unlikely to be made in the early stages. As Karim Sadjadpour testified to this committee in March, there will certainly be those in Iran who seek through intemperate statements to derail the process. There will undoubtedly be criticism by some in the U.S. that diplomacy is naïve or even appeasement. We would do well to ignore these all too predictable attacks and to give President Obama the time and flexibility he will need to sustain a complicated and difficult diplomatic negotiation with Iran.
Ultimately, Mr. Chairman, conflict with Iran is neither inevitable nor desirable. A first, serious negotiation with Iran in three decades makes much more sense for the U.S. than risking the awful calculus of war. Having placed too much of the burden in recent years on our military to sort out the most difficult global security challenges, Americans need to have greater faith in our diplomatic power to resolve crises. This is such a crisis. It is the right place to begin anew with Iran.
Mr. Chairman, once negotiations begin, we should not limit them to the nuclear issue. As we did with North Korea, our government should use the vehicle of multilateral talks to enable our own bilateral discussions on the margins. There are many issues to discuss with Iran. We need to find a way to convince the Iranian leadership that it is in its interest that Iraq emerge united and stronger as America brings home our troops. And, we know that Iranian interests would be served by greater stability in Afghanistan and the weakening of the current Taliban offensive. These issues and the dramatic struggle for stability and peace in Lebanon are all reason for us to begin a wide-ranging discussion with the Iranian leadership in the months ahead.
I have one final suggestion for the committee, Mr. Chairman. We should also want to have a much more open and diverse relationship with the Iranian people. One of the great ironies of America's position in the Middle East is that the Iranian people demonstrate consistently in opinion polls their high regard for the United States. While the pace and nature of our talks with the Iranian government are difficult to predict, it is a much more certain bet that opening up channels to the people of Iran will benefit both of our countries for the long-term.
It is also almost certain that an eventual normalization of relations with Iran and a peace between our governments—and those should be our most important long-term ambitions—will take some time. We have every reason to build bridges to the people of Iran in the meantime. Our Iranian-American community in the United States is evidence enough of the richness, energy and talent of the Iranian people. We should have as primary objectives bringing thousands of Iranian students to study in our universities. We should want our religious leaders of all faiths to continue the interfaith dialogues that have begun tentatively in recent years. I hope it will be possible for members of Congress and journalists to travel to Iran in much greater numbers in the coming months and years. Greater openness between us and more frequent people-to-people contacts will serve us and the cause of peace well as President Obama negotiates the trickier shoals of government to government diplomacy in the period ahead.
Thank you for the opportunity to testify before this committee today.


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I draw my line here.http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/law/jan-june13/abortiondoctor_04-22.htmlWhere do you draw your line?
So if Lovin Honey was selling dynamite, she would have no problem selling to a person who also wanted to buy a back pack and electronic igniter with it. Especially if he looked to be middle eastern. She would NEVER discriminate against a person because of their relationship to a particular group.
QuoteHow could a person have a religious objection to being asked for something they have chosen to sell? If you're not already selling it, then you'd simply state you don't have it for sale. Where would there be a problem?i'm not sure i'm getting your point, but i think you are getting a little technical.
How could a person have a religious objection to being asked for something they have chosen to sell? If you're not already selling it, then you'd simply state you don't have it for sale. Where would there be a problem?
He says he would refuse to sell to someone. Then he says it's not hateful, as it has nothing to do with him or his business. I cannot mesh the two to make any sense.
Liberals Why do you hate so much? Why do you always want to label people? Why do you always take things out of context when trying to make your case? It is truly fascinating to watch you connect the dots when in reality there are no dots to connect.
""No, I'm having a hard time with this part: "it is not intolerant because I really don't care what they do with their life as it has no bearing on me or my business..."""Maybe written a bit differently, you might understand it better. "it is not intolerant because I really don't care what they do with their life as long as it has no bearing on me or my business..."If I sell to them, it then has a bearing on me and my business. If I don't sell to them, it doesn't.In other words, do as you please, but please do it away from and without me.
Speaking of fascinating and dot connections based on nothing.... Not to mention labeling and generalizing.
... we shed whatever we had been, on the promise that this country gave us the chance to be whatever we wanted to be...if we wanted it enough...if we worked hard enough.sure, some people did that better than others. lots of people failed. more succeeded, or gave their kids the tools to succeed. we threw it away for food stamps and a hyphenated identity. to bad, because there is no other place on earth that can duplicate what we once had.
It's too bad the left can't imagine a person with a neutral feeling, a slight like, a slight dislike, or any other emotional feeling other than love and hate. If you don't love something, in their eyes, you hate it. If you disagree with it, but don't have much emotional feeling at all about it, they say you hate it.I try to stay out of big cities during rush hour. I would rather avoid the extra heavy traffic. I don't hate all the drivers in heavy traffic, I just would rather be away from it. In the same sense, I don't hate a group just because I want to avoid them. I don't hate them because I am uncomfortable around them. I don't hate them because I don't agree with their lifestyle.I don't hate liberals just because they are so narrow minded they refuse to see anything but disdain for any one the least bit conservative, who want to keep some of the conditions we have lived under for generations.


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Time for a new flag?
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These are surrealistic, ecspecially being nearly May - wow.Here I am wallowing over my 80ft square back yard, and I see out your front which could go on for miles - nice even in the snow.
it kind of reminds me of a scene out of a Stephen King movie with some sort of ominous thing going on. :shock:
Oops,...I'm not wanting to insult you!The summer picture looks like a picture out of a brochure for the "Kentucky Derby"!.... It also looks like a home in heaven! You must have a tractor to mow all that grass, huh? I like this time of year where i live. Everything is bright green and fresh, and seems to kind of glow near sunset (or sunrise)...Later, it will get soooo hot.... :( Everything that doesn't get watered turns wilted and tired looking or turns brown...And it lasts a long time....And when you mow, you get dirt in your ears! (There is a little bit of weeds that grow, so I mow them to keep stuff even) Anyways, I like your house in the Winter and Summer!your friend,john


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A neighbor in Bieber's gated Calabasas neighborhood told a sheriff's deputy that Bieber threatened him and spat in his direction when he confronted the 19-year-old about his driving last March.
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2/100 of a second..
Point shooting. Point shooting.. You do not need no stinking sights.. Learn to point shoot..
Bob Munden.. May he R.I.P.. He has since passed.. Anyone in the bar and Bob Munden said. "Lets take this out too the street." Holy sheeeeeeet. Without question, no shame in running out the back door, jumping on your horse and leaving the county..
twa, we have to get you down to 1/100 of a second.. I am going for arm surgery, so your on your own for a bit.
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Ok first of im new to this compleatly so all advice and help is welcome.
Second: I discovered my love for mando's while watching clone wars cartoon on CN and id really like to make a custom mando armor...Have the basic idea and have some of the material and tools but lack a bit of skill.And i have a small problem since the armor that im going to make wont be just for showing off at parties and shiznip...infact it'll be used as a part of a home made paintball gear.(btw criticism is good so dont hold it back)The armors gonna be made from just basic plastic buckets,and trash cans while the helm will be made by a friend of mine who's a bit better at it then me(since he owns a costume shop xD).:)


text: While surfing the net, stumbled on this one from Sports Illustrated in 1983: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1120506/index.htm Wow. Can't believe the title, he might as well have said, "Cow Beaten by Swan." Out of curiosity, I looked up these performances. Here's Elaine's: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6QUaaxMC70 And here's Rosalynn's: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09dsYvlZ1Io&feature=related I'm pretty shocked Elaine didn't win this long program. The puberty monster obviously hit her this season, but she did all kinds of things Rosalynn could never do. And Sumners didn't do all that much technically here, her spins were kind of weak, plus she had a fall.


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Whahhhhh, I wanna hear the frogs. It was crystal clear outside today, but so dam cold, I didn't even head outside. When I let the birds out this AM, there was about 2 inches of ice on their water bath containers outside, I broke it up, the ducks had a field day. THEN....tonight I went to put them in and the broken ice had frozen throughout the day, that's how cold it was today in the shade, frickin' out of season temps for sure!!! Kind of glad the frogs haven't surfaced yet. Jody, the frogs probably went back under the mud and muck where it is warmer, smiling. This will be the first place that I proclaim the sound of the peepers!!! I CAN'T WAIT!!! Beautiful day in this great life. Cindi
Beauty!!! The frogs began their earthly calls, the first I have heard this year was last night. Spring has indeed arrived. Beautiful day in this most wonderful life. Cindi


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Just had an idea for a great way for creating VERY movie accurate weathering of the armor . . . at least in terms of placement of scratches and things like that.
I have access to a computer projector, but I suppose the same could be done with an overhead projector as well, but . . . take a nice detailed full shot of the piece of armor you're working on from our fabulous reference CD (Thanks BB! ), and literally project it onto YOUR piece of armor. Now all you have to do is trace where every scratch and scrape goes. Then get out your liquid mask and start going to town. You'll obviously have to trace again after every round of painting but, seems like a great way to me of getting virtually 100% accurate weathering.
You could even use this technique I suppose on the flatter parts of the helmet like the cheeks. And with some creative work and stretching in photoshop you could maybe even do the rest.
Anyways, just my thoughts as I sit here and twiddle my thumbs as I patiently await all my parts to start arriving! hehehe
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Romney's the weakest of the bunch and he would be tremendously better than Obama. Newt was Speaker and balanced at least 4 budgets undef a Democrat President. Newt will Nuke Obama in the debates. I would like to know if all the supporters of each of the GOP candidates will vote for the GOP nominee or will you stay home or vote 3rd party and effectively vote fir Obama?
So I take it from your response you will be casting an effecrive vote for Obama after Ron Paul fails to get enough support for the nomination. I plan to vote for the GOP nominee whoever it is. He will be the only being on earth with any chance to defeat Obama.
You will vote for Obama by not voting fir the GOP nominee. I am not a partisan. I could care less about the GOP machine, other than it is a reality that we will either vote for Obama directly or indirectly. The GOP nominee is the only person on the planet with any chance to beat Obama. I support your right to vote your choice in the primary even though I will vote for another candidate. I will vote for the GOP nominee if I want remove Obama. If I don't I will stay home or xast a meaningless 3rd party vote. You guys do as you wish, but just know there is only one non-Obama vote. Do I like it, not especially, but it most certainly is reality.
Who cares how or from whom they get it. They have said they will use it to destroy Israel, or try to. Creating as you well know a regional and worldwide crisis. I fully expect them to acquire a bomb rather than build one. Whether it's China, Russia or Pakistan or N. Korea. It will still go boom. But again, I don't see any difference in the threat. If they get it, we (the world) better look out. Even an unsuccessful attempt to deliver a nuke to Israel will not have isolated consequences. And please stop accusing me of fear mongering. I don't accuse you of stupid mongering.
Still pushing the Iran fear-mongering I see. Even though though you are aware of the over-whelming evidence to the contrary. That Iran is a puppet state to Russia & China & completely dependent on them for the nuclear & military capability.http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/jul/5/irans-nuclear-program-helped-by-china-russia/http://meria.idc.ac.il/journal/2004/issue1/jv8n1a7.htmlhttp://www.wisconsinproject.org/countries/iran/nuke-miles.htmhttp://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=29604As you already know any real negotiations or efforts to do anything about a nuclear problem in Iran has to be addressed with China & Russia. They are Iran's nuclear industry. If & when Iran ever gets the 'bomb' it's because Russia & China give it to them. Plus China & Russia has gone on record stating an attack on Iran is an attack on them.http://www.zerohedge.com/news/china-will-not-hesitate-protect-iran-even-third-world-warhttp://blog.heritage.org/2011/11/02/is-russia-becoming-irans-diplomatic-godfather/http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/13/iran-russia-nato-idUSL6E8CD2XU20120113So unless US is ready to start WW3 it's all sabre rattling as you well know. Sabre rattling for cover of the economic alliances being built behind the scenes. Which you already know about.China is working behind the scenes to establish its currency at the reserve currency by taking direct action against the US dollar current status.Back in October China announced a new bank that would trade in the Yuan with an invitation towards South Korea & more importantly Japan. http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/27/us-china-asean-financial-idUSTRE79Q2F520111027On December 25 China & Japan announced direct trading with the Yen & the Yuan no longer trading with the US Dollar. Remember Japan is the 2cnd largest consumer of Iranian oil, now they can just buy Iranian oil from China instead of Iran.http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-12-25/china-japan-to-promote-direct-trading-of-currencies-to-cut-company-costs.htmlDecember 25 Japan also announced it would be investing in Chinese Government Bonds as well.http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/12/25/us-japan-china-bonds-idUSTRE7BO06G20111225December 28 Japan loans India 15 Billion to shore up Rupee against Western/European currency crisis pulling the 3rd largest Asian economy into dependency on the Japan/China alliance and way from the US.http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-12-28/japan-india-seal-15-billion-currency-swap-arrangement-to-shore-up-rupee.htmlhttp://www.bullionstreet.com/news/indias-gold-for-oil-deal-with-iran-to-boost-the-bullion/898https://rt.com/news/iran-india-gold-oil-543/http://www.forexcrunch.com/gold-for-oil-india-and-iran-ditch-dollar-report/"According to a new and yet unconfirmed report, India bought oil from Iran using gold. India certainly has the gold resources to fund the oil,""The step joins Russia and Iran's announcement to begin trading in their own domestic currencies rather than use the US dollar"These are major steps in China's growing global alliance, especially the moves that are consolidating partnerships with historical US allies such as Japan, South Korea, & India.It was just two years ago in December that Russia & China agreed on direct trade of currency as well.http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/15/business/global/15iht-ruble15.htmlThese are huge stories with major & lasting impacts you are not hearing discussed on corporate media opinion news.On December 7 Chinese President Hu Jintao told the Chinese military to "prepare for war"? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-16063607One Jan 5, 2012 The US announce a new military re-organization plan - Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Martin Dempsey said -"All of the trends, demographic trends, geopolitical trends, economic trends and military trends are shifting toward the Pacific. So our strategic challenges in the future will largely emanate out of the Pacific region"http://articles.boston.com/2012-01-06/news/30598597_1_asia-pacific-defense-secretary-leon-panetta-defense-strategyTwo days later, China just warned us about our newly announced military strategyhttp://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/07/world/asia/chinese-news-agency-xinhua-warns-us-against-militarism.html?_r=1&ref=chinaIn summation - What the China led economic coalition is doing to the US is the exact same policy the US is doing to Iran through economics.These are all the by products of the on going major power shift from the West to the East.This is the current Japanese view & assessment on the power shifthttp://nippon.com/en/currents/d00006/Currencies and the International Order During a Global Power ShiftIt's not like it was not anticipated this article from the CFR's Foreign Affairs magazine, is eight years old.http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/59910/james-f-hoge-jr/a-global-power-shift-in-the-makingA Global Power Shift in the MakingSo why do you insist on continuing down the fear-mongering road when you & all in the know understands the whole truth of the situation?
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|Man I am telling you right now, go with the 351W. I just built one with forged bottom end, Canfield heads, Crane cam, Victor Jr. intake, and Holley Carb. The beast had over 460 hp before the 200hp of "Bottle" got strapped onto it. Needless to say it had enough power to rip my tranny up pretty good. With mostly stock parts (invest in a good bottom end though), you should have an easily streetable 351W with close to 375hp and be able to drive on pump gas every day.
I've worked on several pre70's Rancheros and the engine size, BIGblock versus smallblock, also depends on which style Ranchero you're thinking of, because if you get a Falcon based one you would be restricted to smallblocks if you don't want to do major extensive shocktower changes, if its even possible. So stroking out the 351W to 400+ ci would be yuor only way to get large cubes into the small Ranchero. Otherwise get the larger Fairlane based or Torino based Ranchero, these have a little more room.If you decide on a 351W, go for a 1969 4bbl model, they r tougher and the heads r different, I had one up to 135 mph in a cougar when I was 18, but don't do that on the street like I did, it scared sum respect into me when I almost crashed with unprepared traffic.
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|The FE is always a good choice. Bolt-on performance parts can get pricey. You can build an impressive FE with junkyard parts, the demand is fairly low and availability is pretty good.
|Small blocks are great if you have the $ to make them go. Best bet is the 351W. If $ is a factor try the 390 FE, lots in junk yards and cheap. A little heavy but have great low end and can make good HP with lots of torque. Both of the motors will bolt in with only a change in the factory motor mounts.
|im think the 302 is the best for engine out there i got one that has no oil pressure at all cuz the bearings are sooo worn out it its got a blown head gasket leaks oil (this all happened beofre i bought it an old lady liked to run it out of oil with a n oil leak and not tell anyone , i found this out after i bought it thank u very much but anyways) it still roasts a lot out there and i put soem serious tear on it i drive thru fields with this thing donuts constantly brake stands everywhere, goin 45 mph slammin it in reverse and flooring it and doin posi strips backwards ive doen it all to break this engine and i wont give whatssoever ive been driving it nonstop for the past year as well as all the fun and crap i do to it cant beat it
|The first thing to do is to find the weight of the vehicle...I have a 1973 Cougar approx 4000lbs I run a built up 351C close to 400hp, a 302 would be a dog. They run real good 2800lbs and under, I also have a 1968 cougar with 302 which works nicely, but I am in process of swapping out the 302 with the 351C...You cannot go wrong with a 351C, they could be built up strong for under $3,000.00...this is only my opinion, but I have owned 2 1973 cougars, 1968 cougar. Good Luck!
|In your case, Id prolly pick a 351 of some form... The 351W is easiest to get parts for, but the 351C has much more power potential if you can get somebody to work on the heads...
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|hi guys and everyone wants to knough why i like this site all you guys have great input on the ford motors buttttttt i like the 351c overall it took a lot of punishment from me and my son i had one in my 73 mach1 stock with a 2bbl on it would shut a lot of 350s down i have a friend who has a ranchero with a 460 and he loves it but he has a racer with a 351c iv talked to chevy guys and they told me they would build a 460 if they could aford it but for me ill stay 351c even if it takes longer for parts because i like to race and have fun to the clevland has always been strong for me [gas&staying together]in my truck my son shut down a 5.0 mustang i feel it has a lot to do with the driver alwas rember thers always someone around the corner thats better be shure safty comes first may god bless gordon :p
You guys all picked good motors,but for 2 grand
you can make a heckuva 406 ford by finding an
ol 400M,bore it .30 over(hence a 406),give it
a good standard 3 way valve job,the right cam,
an edelbrock performer manifold,and walla!
400 hp and gobs of torque.I am a glutten for punishment so I like the cleveland engines,
but get a 2-barrel 400 instead of a 4-barrel
cause the heads on the 4 barrel suck for anything
but top speed driving(which these babies ain't
made for)
|yea that would be awsome mustangmaniac, i forgot to mention that this was a low-buck project, but its nice to hear what all you guys thing about fords and there engines.
Well, if I had to pick a ford motor it would be the 351w. Great all around motor, it has lots of torque, good horsepower, and enough aftermarket parts to make you go crazy. You could use this engine for almost any application. The only downside i think is that they arent in as much of supply as the 302s.
I was always under the impression that the FE engines are WAAAAY heavy for their size. But, i read in a magazine that a fully dressed FE is about 100lbs lighter than a fully dressed 429/460. Whats more, an FE with aluminum heads and intake weighs less than a 351 with iron heads and intake. Does this sound right to any of you??? Was I mistaken or is the magazine wrong? If this is right, I'd say the FE is the way to go. Even though they're harder to find, they make TONS of low end torque. These also have many aftermarket parts available. though, of course not as much as the windsor. I head of this new company, Genesis Custom Manufacturing, that started making brand new alminum and iron FE blocks. 390, 427 side oiler, 428, 427 SOHC, you name it they make it. Now i think THAT would be the way to go. Think about it, an old ford ranchero, but when you pop the hood, an all aluminum 427 cammer?? That would be tiiiiiight. I have the phone number if anyone is interested
|if you HAVE to run a ford, a 460 .080 over, forged pistons, high rise with dual quads, big *** cam. pushing 550+ as we speak
|4 Jaw Chuck
Ahhhh...autoshop class, hallways full of various displacement engines all requiring cc'ing of their chambers and displacement measurement. Direct measurement being the most accurate and enjoyable method in my experience. Best to account for all your measurement fluid so as not to increase the displacement unnecessarily. :p
No Honey!, were talking about cars here?! :o
thanks for all the info guys!!!
hey chuck, i appreciate your list of engines and all the info you leave at all my post. i do try asking hard questions so i can put you guys to the test! ohh btw, i like those pics of those rods, mabe i should snap some pics of all the messed up **** thats in my autoshop class
|4 Jaw Chuck
|Yep JD, I was the proud father of three shelled 351W motors all done over approx. 7 months. I learned a valuble lesson, just because you can cam an engine to turn 7500 and put in strong enough valvesprings and port and pipe the engine to turn it-doesn't mean the engine can handle it. Next time I would spend extra cash and get me some of those Carillo's. OH and one last thing, those cheap factory cast pistons with the cast in steel skirt strengtheners-the rod on the right pulled the pin right out of one of those, I now believe in forged pistons for race engines wholeheartedly.
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Meowmy says there are a few stars peeking through the clouds. She says if I make a wish, it might come true. I'm going to make TWO wishes! And YOU can help them come true!!!
Wish #1:
Many of you have read the heartbreaking story of my sisfur Eve. I never got to meet Eve, due to the neglect she suffered at Okefenokee Humane Society in Waycross, GA (Ware Co.) Meowmy and Eve's to-be adoptive Mommy Terry, along with their friends, are asking everyone to write snail mails or emails to the folks on the list below. Be polite but ask for an investigation into the conditions at OHS. So far, we have had only one noncommittal reply. You can read my back diary entries for that actual letter. If enough of us write and express our concern for the animals still there, surely someone will listen to us. Please help us bring Justice for Eve!!
http://www.catster.com/cats/1086369 (Eve's Page)
http://blogs.catster.com/the-cats-meow-a-cat-a nd-kitten-blog/humane-society-it%e2%80%99s-not-always-a-paws ative-place-part-1/2010/02/16/(Part One of the Catster blog about Eve)
Eve's Petition: You can sign now!
People to Write for Justice for Eve: (Email is fine, but sometimes 'snail mail' gets more attention and is harder to ignore. We only have emails for some people.)
Jim Brown. email@example.com County Commissioner
Carlos Nelson firstname.lastname@example.com County Commissioner
Victor Aldridge email@example.com County Commissioner
Kathy Davis ( not animal friendly) email@example.com County Commissioner
Gene Dixon phone (912) 285-1319 County Commissioner
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Waycross, GA 31502-1069
Gail Boyd email@example.com County Manager
No Address for the OHS Board Members but here are the emails:
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Sirena Cady firstname.lastname@example.com, OHS Treasurer
Susan Winge email@example.com OHS Board Secretary.
Dr. Wes Blount email@example.com
OHS Board Member Veterinarian ( Was doing weekly visits)
Darla Moumberg firstname.lastname@example.com OHS board Member
Millie Hopkins firstname.lastname@example.com Board Member past president
Heidi Flowers. firstname.lastname@example.com OHS Board Member
You can also snail mail Dr. Blount at this address.
Dr. KT Blount
Satilla Animal Hospital, Inc.
511 City Blvd.
Waycross, Ga. 31501
Dr. Blount is a vet serving on the OHS Board. He is the only person to respond to Meowmy's emails. His very short, very unhelpful response is in my previous diary entry.
Tommy Irvin
GA State Commissioner of Agriculture
Georgia Department of Agriculture
19 Martin Luther King, Jr. Dr., S.W.
Atlanta, Georgia 30334
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The man in charge of all shelters receiving public funds in GA.
Mary Green
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It is her responsibility to oversee all shelters in GA that receive public funds. Her office would be the one to conduct such an investigation of OHS.
Even these state officials, whom Meowmy supports with her taxes, will not respond to her emails or letters. Please join those who BeliEVE in Justice for Eve - and all animals who are abused or neglected!
Wish #2:
Starlight, star bright, first star I see tonight...I wish I may...I wish I might...find justice for my friend Muppet and the FLOCK cats.
http://www.catster.com/cats/624959 - Muppet's page
Muppet is my furriend, and she's a survivor! She was at a huge cat 'rescue' called FLOCK. These cats were left to starve and several hundred did not make it. Muppet was critical but she was so strong and fought so hard to live! And she did! Best Friends Rescue took over and thanks to hard workers like Muppet's wonderful furever mommy and others, the surviving cats had a chance for happy, healthy lives.
Unfortunately, the case against the bad people who ran FLOCK was DISMISSED!!!! I'm going to quote now from Muppet's diary:
"...And on this note, and the main reason for my diary entry, we are asking all of our Catster friends to please write a letter to our District Attorney, Bob Beckett, letting him know how outraged every animal lover is that his office failed to properly see that there was justice for Flock. Although he has filed an appeal, we want Bob Beckett to know just how many eyes are upon him and how he better not let his office mess it up this time! Meomy was told that this case was 'purposely hidden so the outcome would be a dismissal.' And in today's paper it states, "Beckett's notice of appeal was filed yesterday. Gibson (General Council for FLOCK) said that surprised him because he and Beckett had struck a deal that the case would go no further." Struck a deal? Humph!!
If everyone who cares about this case could please write a 'snail mail' letter to Bob Beckett, it could really help this case a lot. We need a flood of mail to come in. And thank you to everyone who already have sent letters! *grateful hugs*"
Mr. Robert Beckett
District Attorney, Nye County
1520 E Basin Ave
Pahrump, NV 89060
I'm just one cat, but I speak for so many when I beg you to write to DA Beckett and to those with authority over Okefenokee Humane Society. Sadly, neglect and abuse of helpless animals happens every day. Usually there isn't much we can do. Here is the chance for caring, truly HUMANE people like my Meowmy and Muppet's Mommy to join your voices together and take action! Write DA Beckett, please. Write or email those in Ware County who can help the poor animals still at OHS.
You CAN make a real difference! They may ignore a few of us, but they cannot ignore us ALL.
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Well it's finally done.. My kilted Boba Fett. It's going live at an event this weekend and i just need some input from you guys before that.
the kilt is made from a real army half-shelter and weathered to match the cape.
But what do you guys think? ( don't mind the helmet. It's my first one I ever made. Won't be using it for the costume but it was the one my GF brought me)
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OK. So I am new here, at least recently registered as a user. I have visited the site frequently in the past to get my Mando and Fett fix, as well as to see all the work getting accomplished out there. Last summer I stumbled on to Wizard of Flight's templates. (Thank you again, Alan.) In this thread I would like to display the work done to refabricate a beaten up hard hat and a forgotten five gallon bucket into a functional buyce. (That's the correct word for helmet. Yes? I don't have any of my Karen Traviss books with me.) Here are the first couple of pictures.
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I began, as stated earlier, with a hard hat and one five gallon bucket. I had to find a second bucket for more material through the build. I will deal with that later though. First I cut brim from the hard hat. Then I cut it in half from front to back. WoF's template was a little small for my big nugget and I wanted some room for padding. I reassmbled the two halves with a one inch strip cut from the five gallon bucket. I used two inch masking tape to hold the pieces together. Then applied a liberal amount of epoxy (Hysol 9309) to bond the separate pieces and fill in the gaps. When those cured, I cut the dome in half again from left to right. Reassembled again in the same manner as the first havles. The fourth picture above shows the reassembled dome fitted to the lower half of the helmet held in place again with masking tape. I had made a cardboard frame from WoF's templates, with my added measurements, to use as a building base to ensure I stayed close to the correct angles.


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Arsène Wenger says Thierry Henry still has the physical attributes to play on the wing for Arsenal if required.
The Club's all-time record goalscorer started his career on the flanks but moved up front under Wenger's tutelage, to great effect.
While the Gunners manager primarily sees Henry as a striker, he believes the 34-year-old still has the qualities needed to cover out wide.
"He still has the reflexes of a winger. When he is on the left side he can still pass people and deliver. But it demands a lot of physical effort and it is more suited to a player who is between 20 and 30. But he can still do it," Wenger said.
"Even physically he had exceptional quality [before], so even if he has dropped a little bit, he is still good. When you are average and drop a little bit you become very average."
Wenger believes Henry and Robin van Persie could play together in attack, but says he would have to change his side's shape to accommodate it.
"They can play together as long as the team is balanced. If it is balanced offensively and defensively then they can," he said.
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It's also not very different from people selling old zines on ebay, or selling your cds to a used cd store. Once you have a zine, it's your possession, and you have a right to resell it in my opinion.
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Personally i would like to know where it was going if it was my zine, but I don't think it's utterly necessary. I love the idea of a zine of mine passing through as many people's hands as possible. Sure, it might be cool to get my $1, but really, that's not the reason people make zines, and if it is, well, i think they must be delusional.
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The nature of the modern game means I have been fortunate enough to have visited many countries over the last 20-odd years, all in the name of our great club. Poland however, is totally new for me.
Despite it only being the latest chapter in our pre-season preparations, the 'unknown' aspect at least, means I am thoroughly looking forward to it.
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We have 4 GSDs in our house ranging in ages 6 (male), 2 (female) and 2 pups that are 8 months (brother & sisters).
The 2 yo female has begun to be very dominant with the 2 pups and even tries to do the same with the 6 yo male (tries - he doesn't let her). She will mouth the neck area of the pups - doesn't bite them, just mouth them until they submit. The thing is - she does this constantly to them. I'm constantly having to tell her to stop only because they are knocking things down when they do this or waking up others in the house. When this happens I separate them and put them in their crates until they calm down. Now I know this is probably normal behavior but when this happens, she (the 2 yo female) I swear is nuts - she is constantly tearing things up - she is crated and someone she was able to get ahold of a shoe that was nowhere near the kennel and destroy it (my husband is not happy about that) - she doesn't go outside with the other dogs until she calms down. She is played with but always seems to want more attention and when we give the other dogs attention she gets jealous and pushes them away from us. We do go for walks and play fetch but we have noticed that she does better when its just one on one.
she has to stay crated at night and when we are gone or she will tear everything up, pee and poop in the house and eat things (like my heirloom seeds that came in the mail the other day). I have never known such a destructive dog. We have thought about rehoming but she is very territorial and does not like others coming in the house unless they have been there before - even then she takes a while to realize that it is ok that they are there.
the other dogs are ok with others in our house - it is just her that has an issue. We are running out of ideas and I refuse to give up on her but I'm at a loss. Please help.
If there are classes in your area, it may help to attend with her. At least it would give her one on one time with you and she would learn something that would tire her out physically and mentally. She then may be easier to live with.
You have too many young dogs for your situation.
My suggestion is to rehome your 8 month old bitch puppy, and possibly the 8 month old male as well.
Your 2 year old bitch is barely an adult. A young adult. She needs a lot of attention and training. And she is a bitch. Right now the puppy license is gone for the pups, and she is deciding that she is a young bitch, and wants to ensure she is the top-bitch. There was no way to know that she would have the green gene -- jealous, possibly same-sex-aggression.
So far she has not aggressed toward you other dogs. Because they are submitting. But if she continues, without serious changes, they will fight at some point, and there will be blood, and you will think that your dog has something wrong with her, you will hold it against her.
I suggest you rehome the puppy bitch before your adult bitch gets to this level. It is possible that the puppy dog will be ok with her without the bitch present. But because she is so young, it is probably better for you to rehome him too.
It isn't your bitch's fault that you decided to bring home two more puppies, when she still requires a lot of work.
The other thing is that having littermates, is a bad idea for most people. They get very attached to each other. And they will develop some behaviors if you try to separate them. They will need so much more socialization, each separately, and together. And training, and then if one gets sick and dies, the other will probably follow soon after doubling the grief. Rehome the babies now, to good homes, and work with your current dogs, in another two or three years, bring in one pup, probably a male, and you shouldn't be having these problems at all.
All I get from the post is that they are playing and it's driving the OP nuts because they knock things down and are loud enough to wake others up. There are 3 young dogs in the house and I'm not sure how one expects them not to play. My dogs bite at each other's necks and are loud about it all day long. Your 2 yr old female wants to play and gets punished for it, I don't expect her to be happy about it. She sees the others playing and she is in a crate? When my dogs start getting out of hand I find having a water bottled near by and squirting them just once and saying no stops the behavior immediately. Some might not agree with the water bottle but it works and after a while they see the bottle and know they are getting to loud and rough and stop on their own. I have 6 dogs(4 of them under 2.5), all together, all the time, I know how it can get. I don't think the female has any behavior issues besides frustration that is caused by the OP's action or reactions. I can bet all destructive behavior would end if she was allowed to be a young dog and play and be a part of the pack.
You have too many young dogs for your situation.
pretty much this
When my two young dogs play it sounds like a grizzly bear is on the loose! LOL! They are very vocal and grab each other by the neck in play NEVER aggressive. So is she being aggressive or playful?
Also try teaching the pups no play in the house. My dogs are aloud to play in the house but when I say "settle" they know to separate and plotz (down).
It sounds like they need a strong leader. They are a pack! Try NILIF (nothing in life is free) with all the dogs. Obedience train individually!!! They need to view you as the leader. I don't believe in Alpha role as you are a human not a dog but I take on a leadership role. I am the master and my dogs knows all good things come from me. Play with each dog individually. Train with play as they need to know hey if I listen my "leader" he/she will plays tug or ball or with flirt pole. whatever works for your dogs.
A leader is confident and a pack of dogs must have a strong leader.
Good luck with your pack!!
Agree with llombardo, I didn't get any vibe that the 2yo bitch is being aggressive or dominant, just playing. I have a 2 yo pit bull bitch and an almost 7 month old GSD pup and they play like this ALL DAY LONG if I let them. It's constant wrestling, play-fighting, very noisy and they will crash into things but it's just play, completely mutual. It doesn't escalate. Yes it is loud and annoying so I have times/places where they are allowed to play like this.
I think the issue here is that you've got a lot of young dogs and they probably all need a lot of individual attention and exercise and if they don't get it, they will just want to play like this all the time. If you think it's too noisy or destructive then you need to create some boundaries, train them to be calm when separated, and make sure everyone is getting the physical and metal exercise they need.
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How is this apiary funded? Is it self supporting, or does it use funds from other folk's pocketbooks in any manner, public or private? As this venture is on public property, are all profits going to the public, or will money end up in private pockets?Often, things that folks claim 'expand public knowledge and build bridges' are nothing more than special interest groups trying to spend someone else's money to advance their agenda. (and often paying themselves from other people's money too)How do you plan to deal with locations that are neglected, or you can't get volunteers to manage the hives in a timely fashion? How do you plan to deal with swarms? How do you plan to deal with neglected hives? How do you plan to deal with the backlash of an angry public if they get stung? How do you plan to deal with citizens who are allergic to beestings suing the State because of the added danger if they visit this public property? Who will pay for the added costs of medical personnel to have medical care providers close at hand in case anyone gets stung?Who is liable if someone gets stung, is allergic, and dies?The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.
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