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Re: high quality yacht brands?
You forgot to mention Bristol.
Re: high quality yacht brands?
Pretty old thread but also fairly timeless. When I talk about a "quality boat" I think in terms of engineering and build quality. Design/performance aspects aren't really a part of "quality" to my mind. There are lots of ugly, stripped out quality race boats, just as there are lots of beautiful, slow, quality cruising boats.
Is a Ferrari higher or lower quality than a Rolls Royce? How about a Cadillac Escalade compared to a Chevy Suburban?
On a side note, the Scandinavian boats listed made me think - are there any low or middling quality boats produced in the Scandinavian countries? I sure don't know of any.
Re: high quality yacht brands?
Originally Posted by PCP View Post
I would say that we have 4 different categories regarding price and quality.
1- Completely custom boats like Camper and Nicolson or Alden yachts.
2- Low production semi-custom boats like Najad, Malo, Morris, Cabo Rico or Contest.
3- High quality production boats like Tartan, Sabre, Dehler, wauquiez, x-yachts, J-boats.
4- Big production sail boats . Boats that are made in large numbers to a price, like Bavaria, Hanse, Dufour,Hunter, Catalina, Harmony or Beneteau.
J-boats - anyone who mounts winches through balsa core could not be considered high quality.
Tartan - More marketing than quality. Have you followed any of the law suits and horror story threads on this forum (the best of which were deleted a couple of years ago).
Island Packet - Anyone who uses concrete and scrap metal for ballast (including old re-bar and what looked like the damper plate from my 1967 Chevy Nova) should not be considered high quality.
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Re: high quality yacht brands?
Has anybody got a Nordship 40DS?
high quality yacht brands?
Norseman 447
high quality yacht brands?
Moody, like a lot of top high quality boat manufacturers could not cope with the prices of big production sailboats manufacturers and stopped making small sailing boats.
They have stopped making the 38 and the 42 in 2003 and are now focused in making big luxury oceangoing boats.
Smaller second hand boats have a good value in the market, are well built and are good oceangoing boats. They are also adapted to live aboard.
They are not fast boats, but all is relative (If you compare them with an Island Packet, they are fast).
I particularly like the recent production of the 38. Nice interior in a good looking boat.
high quality yacht brands?
I am not much of a fan of the Angus Primrose era Moody''s but the newer boats seem to be pretty good boats. They seem to be nicely finished. I have not especially liked their interior layouts and I am not a fan of aft cabins on boats as small as Moody tries to put them. Most of the ones that I have seen in the States have interiors that are biased towards coastal cruising.
I own a Farr 11.6 (Farr 38).The Farr 11.6 (Farr 38) were built as cruiser/racers and in their day they were extremely fast compared to other 38 footers that could be cruised. Compared to cruiser/racers of that era, they were very light. With a design weight of only 10,600 lbs., they were somewhere between 2/3 and 3/4''s of the weight of a normal 38 foot coastal cruiser of that era. In some ways these were boats with a split personality. Sisterships of my boat are distance cruising all over the world. My boat, for example, was single-handed in from South Africa on her own bottom. Yet, when these were new boats, Farr 11.6s were also winning races in a wide range of venues.
My boat was designed at an interesting point in Bruce Farr''s and yacht design history. Farr, like many top designers, had been designing race boats to compete under the IOR racing rule and had done so quite successfully. But in late 1970s and early 1980''s designers and racers were becoming disillusioned with boats optimized for the IOR rule. These early 80s IOR boats were comparably slow, tender and difficult to sail especially in heavy conditions or with short crews. Designers began designing large one-design, offshore capable, keel-boats that were designed to be well rounded designs and which were not specifically optimized to any racing rule. For example this is the era that saw the introduction of boats like J-36/35, Express 37 and Santana 36. Into that climate, Bruce Farr designed the Farr 11.6. The boat was a big hit in New Zealand and South Africa with well over a 125 of these boats built in a very short period worldwide.
In a lot of ways she was also a typical family cruiser built for use in New Zealand. From what I understand, the New Zealanders have a culture that is more accepting of the idea of cruising carefully engineered, very light weight boats. During this era Bruce Farr designed a whole range of very fast cruising boats that were similar in concept to the 11.6 but ranging from 21 feet up to 60 footers. Even in the early 1980''s, these fast cruisers offered a lot of carrying capacity for their dry weight, had surprisingly comfortable motions and were quite stable as compared to the light boats that we knew at that time in the northern hemisphere.
The engineering on my boat is amazing. The 11.6 has a comparatively thin skin for that day, (heavy by modern standards) supported on closely spaced framing. The boat has a series of closely spaced, hand glassed longitudinal stringers that run the length of the boat and terminate at a squash block at the bow knuckle. Depending on where you are in the boat, there are transverse framing or a structural bulkhead every 20 to 30, The framing around the keel area consists of massive glassed in transverse frames. These are incredible stiff and sturdy boats that really seem to stand up to a lot of abuse.
Today she is pretty slow when compared to modern race boats. But she was in many ways the last of the last generation of boats that could be raced or cruised in a wide range of conditions. She is remarkably easy to handle single-handed and in a heavy breeze. She points well for a cruising boat and is very fast in a wide range of conditions. Although light in weight, her hull form and weight distribution makes the Farr 11.6 surprising comfortable in rough going. I have been very pleased with her sailing ability right across the board. She is moderately well balanced with a very light helm, but unlike some of the newer boats, she does not track all that well. As a result I tend to use the autopilot when covering distance. With her light helm these boats do very well with streering vanes. (My boat had one which was removed when she came to the States. )
For me, one of the big draws to this boat is her fractional rig which I look at as being the ideal offshore and shorthanded rig for a boat of this size.
The previous owner had almost exclusively raced her and so she has a lot of good racing gear but when I bought her cruising systems were in serious need of updating and I have been slowly converting her back into more of a cruiser and less of a racer. The interior layout is clearly designed around offshore passage making rather than coastal cruising and her stock tankage is a bit on the small size.
I do not think that these are an ideal boat for everyone. I think that these are great high performance singlehanders or for couples who will accept a pretty spartan boat for a bit of extra performance. I am not sure that I would classify her as a high quality yacht but she works for me.
high quality yacht brands?
Any detailed opinions about the Moodys? Jeff, I am wondering which model of sailing boat you have and why you chose the particular one.
high quality yacht brands?
What about the C&C''s?(late 60''s early 70''s - 34'' or 36'') From the info I''ve found they seem to be well built, quick, and well designed. (deck, cockpit, cabin layout)
high quality yacht brands?
Pretty close to the bottom. Watkins offered a lot of boat for the money, but they were not all that well built and their designs tended to be pretty mediocre.
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Colm writes:
Do you plan to do any promotion of an #asv2012 hashtag for the meeting in Madison this year? I remember some limited tweeting from Minneapolis last year (in between melting into the sidewalk) but I think TWiV would be a great way to promote it ahead of time, along with using it when you tweet about the TWiV episode to be recorded there. After the discomfort with livetweeting the morning sessions last year it may not be encouraged, but I think ASV could be moving faster in the social media realm.
As you said on twitter, there was a specially designed app for ASM this year, and I know Society for Neuroscience has one too. ASV as far as I can tell doesn't even have a twitter account and only the barest of Facebooks. With all of the focus on H5N1 (loved the discussion) this seems like the perfect time to expand ASV's reach on the Internet.
Maybe I'll apply to run their social media presence once I finish my PhD. Someday.
Richard Compans writes:
No sampling of lymph nodes was done in the case of the in vitro cell migration experiments using excised ear tissue, from which we observed the emigration of DCs.
For the skin immmunization on the dorsal surface of the mouse, we examined the inguinal lymph nodes at intervals post-immunization. We think that several factors may have contributed to our lack of detection of cells containing labeled viral antigen in these lymph nodes: retention of some of the antigen at the immunization site, problems with insufficient labeling, timing or quantitation, or possibly the processing of antigen. We don't anticipate that any novel mechanism is involved.
Additional work is underway using improved procedures for labelling of the antigen, which we hope will resolve this question.
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Yan writes:
I was listening to TWIV on my drive to work today. Just want to let you know that there is at least one paper (by Chris Upton, David Esteban and coworkers) describing the sequence of a vaccinia virus strain derived from a person who experienced complications from smallpox vaccine. Here is the link:
Love the show.
Ian writes:
Dear hosts (of podcasts, viruses, and more),
I have just finished listening to the excellent Twiv 183 and I can't help make a certain observation. In this episode, but also generally, it would seem that the Twiv crew may suffer from a case of bioinformatics-o-phobia. I wouldn't be too concerned as I expect that this affliction is very common, in fact I have attacks from time to time. Since Twiv is so successful at teaching many of the other aspects and techniques of virology, why not confront bioinformatics head on? It would be a blast to invite a bioinformatician or computer scientist onto Twiv to talk about some exciting virology related computational work, and really delve into the details of bioinformatics methodology. I've heard awesome explanations of cutting edge molecular techniques on Twiv, but when difficult bioinformatics gets mentioned in a paper on I'm often left wondering what's going on "under the hood".
Anyway, keep up the great work,
p.s. I thought this was a cool random example of bioinformatics at the cutting edge of virology...it was the first result that caught my eye after searching for "influenza" and "bioinformatics"
Schanen, B. C., A. S. De Groot, L. Moise, M. Ardito, E. McClaine, W. Martin, V. Wittman, W. L. Warren, and D. R. Drake 3rd. 2011. Coupling sensitive in vitro and in silico techniques to assess cross-reactive CD4(+) T cells against the swine-origin H1N1 influenza virus. Vaccine. 29:3299-3309. doi: 10.1016/j.vaccine.2011.02.019.
Jim writes:
Hi Vince, et al,
Just listened to TWIV 183. As usual it was fabulous. Am also a big fan of TWIP and TWIM.
I do think it would help to get a participant to interpret the bioinformatics which seems to be increasingly present in the more recent articles.
Was delighted to have DDD present again.
Stephen writes:
I've been listening to a lot of TWIV, TWIM and TWIP recently. I'm learning a lot and being reminded of a lot.
You touch on insect biology a number of times. But I wonder if you, or maybe a listener knows, of the Racaniello and friends of entomology.
I'm thinking someone should create something very like TWIV, wide ranging but academic, not restricted to agricultural pest management or the global fight against the "bugs are icky" meme, fun but information dense. Of course, my imaginary podcast does not exclude the topics covered in the TWI family.
There must be tons of research going on in insect biodiversity, ecology, phylogenetics, genetics, genomics, (am I being redundant?) systematics, behavior (eg. mimicry), species descriptions, biomechanics (eg. Berkeley IB department), etc. And, of course, the multi-layered symbioses you folks have mentioned. Interspersed with the history of entomology (Darwin was a beetle collector), and descriptions of the orders and particularly interesting species, I think this could be a wonderful resource, with a nearly endless list of potential topics and papers to discuss.
Regarding audience, I would venture that the participants in bugguide.net represent a fair number: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BugGuide ("BugGuide had over 809 million hits in 2010").
Stephen writes:
In TWIV 46*, you discussed Israel Acute Paralysis Virus in response to an e-mail. At about 34:40, you both chuckled about the idea of putting a radio tracking collar on honey bees.
I remembered posting about just such an experiment several years ago on my animal communication site.
The photo shows a radar transponder on a honey bee <http://acp.eugraph.com/news/news05/riley.html>. That was a 2005 Nature paper, and technology has advanced since then (a couple of examples below, gleaned from a quick Google search).
* I'm listening to the Virology 101 podcasts in order.
Robin writes:
Stephen writes:
A quick email in response to TWiV 181 in which Kathy used APOD as her pick of the week. Rich asked how he could get this as his desktop wallpaper. I have it on my windows 7 desktop, but not as the wallpaper. As seen in the attached images I have APOD at the bottom of the screen in a panel, and shown progressively larger if one wanted to have it alone. A program called rainmeter (http://rainmeter.net/cms/) can display a number of skins/themes. This particular theme, called omnimo (http://omnimo.info/), is designed to look like windows phone 7/windows 8.
As ever, thank you for keeping me informed and entertained.
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Ricardo writes:
Hello TWIV Tertulia.
On TWIV 174 a Google engenier asked for a test that would help him to figure out the respiratory infections on his house. I just found out a test named xTAG RVPv1 and xTAG RVP FAST that are able to qualitatively identify several respiratory virus. Probably expensive, but it is information.
Congratulations on your growing numbers and keep up the wonderful work.
Ricardo Magalhaes, Ph.D.
Associate Professor of Microbiology
Faculty of Health Sciences of Fernando Pessoa University
Ricardo writes:
Hello Vincent.
(And Alan and Dickson and Rich.)
First off all, I'm sorry for this email because it is a request.
I have already write You about this but I'm really struggling with it.
I can't find a source of information (help) to prepare laboratory classes for undergrad virology students. Our lab is a teaching lab and the coolest thing I can do, is to find plaques with bacteriophages and that only take two 90 min classes (in 18).
Can you help me here?
My best regards.
Ricardo Magalhaes, Ph.D.
Associate Professor of Microbiology
Faculty of Health Sciences of Fernando Pessoa University
Marissa writes:
I love TWiV I learned about it from my Virology professor and always listen to it in my car now and at the gym. I was just wondering if you guys would consider making an iphone app so we can listen to it on the road without having to plan it (kind of like the Science Friday one) and maybe a facebook page too get people interested in science! I am the only science major in my family of political science buffs and I am always wanting to get my Dad into listening to these (he listens to NPR since forever) but now NPR has an iphone app which makes things really easy. Just some thoughts... plus I really love your podcasts on oncolytic viral therapy! I recently learned about RNAi therapy ( in regards to diseases) this summer and thought that was a very interesting subject as well.
Thanks for all the podcasts and you guys are really funny, especially when you guys first got your iphone I cracked up! I just recently got one too hehe! Keep up the great work :)
Charles writes:
Might be nice at some point to have a renewed discussion on the 'incurable wound' revisited, with the possibilities of rabies virus therapy?
I believe Drs. Willoughby and Glaser could be great candidates for an interesting chat on same.
Also, with the advent of World Rabies Day on 28 Sept, would be ideal to have a mention of a rabies topic that week before, if possible.
Cheers. CR.
Houston rabies case poses new questions about age-old illness
Varun writes:
Hello Microbiology Crew,
As always the TWiV /TWiP and TWiM has kept itself on the top of my priority list. An i must say keep it up. And all i can say it has kept getting better and better. I have a couple of questions and a few suggestions.
My first question is that is there any chemical that that attacks the geometry of the virus. I couldn't find any, but did find that the viral geometry once disrupted will cause interruptions in assembly of at least most of the viral machinery. Please enlighten this area. My second question is could you elaborate about DEAD box proteins. This group of proteins has really been difficult to digest intellectually.
I have a suggestion. Since you interview various scientists on the show which really has given all the audience a great peak into current science, it would be fantastic if you could get Stanley Prusiner and Irwin W. Sherman on the show, and talk about their current research. Also i request you to have occasional virology 101. I feel it has now reached near extinction.
I also have a listener pick of the week, if you would like. If you consider Matt Ridley's Genome as master piece which was picked previously in the show, then i guess his other book "Agile gene" is a step next to master piece. And thats my pick.
Once again thank you for this highly entertaining education prog
Chris writes:
Hi TWiV team (+audience),
I enjoyed your discussion of polydna viruses and Michael Strand's work. At one point in the discussion, someone (I can't remember who, now) asked how such a complicated relationship could have evolved in a non-integrating virus-host relationship. I think this is a very interesting question, and wanted to point out some interesting examples of wasp-virus commensalism, which it turns out seems to be quite common. While the polydna viruses are certainly the extreme example--barely viruses at all anymore, really--there are several examples of other relationships where the virus maintains a lot more independence.
There are probably many more examples of this than I am aware of (this is not what I work on), but the first example that comes to my mind should be of unusual interest to Rich, if he is not already aware of it. A colleague of his at the University of Florida (Pauline Lawrence, Dept. of Entomology) discovered an entomopoxvirus in the venom of the parasitoid wasp Diachasmimorpha longicaudata. Unless I am mistaking, it is required for wasp development--appears to suppress the immune response of the host (fruit fly, Anastrepha suspensa). Unlike the polydna viruses, this is a legit virus--replicates to high titer in the fruit fly and contains all its own genes. It seems that the wasp acquires the virus during development in the fruit fly, presumably by consuming infected hemolymph (insect blood). Adult male wasps are positive for the virus, too; but only at very low titer in all body segments. How the female concentrates the virus into her poison gland remains a mystery. The virus appears to be perfectly self sufficient in the fruit fly--you can passage it in fruit fly larvae, but it seems to lack any ability to transmit from one to the next without the wasp. Super cool--maybe a virus on its way to integration?
Unless I am mistaking, Pauline has discovered additional viruses in the venom of the same wasp--a rhabdovirus and maybe some more. As molecular biology tools become increasingly available to the entomology community, I expect that we will will see a lot of these type of symbiotic relationships in the venoms of hymenoptera (wasps, ants, bees)--would be interesting to see if it is only the solitary parasitoids or if social hymenoptera also maintain them. The presence of this sort of relationship across such unrelated virus types suggests that there is actually a very large ecological niche for viruses in this capacity, so maybe it is not so surprising that we see the polydna virus story emerging the way it is.
Thought you might think this was interesting--my apologies if you are already familiar. As I said, this is not what I work on, so my apologies in advance to important work in the field which I have undoubtedly failed to mention. I believe Pauline is mostly retired now, but I am sure she would be happy to discuss it with you, Rich, if you offered her some Satchel's.
Thanks for all the work you do--TWiV is undoubtedly the best podcast out there and has made me a much better graduate student (must have used at least 5 things I learned from TWiV in my qualifying exam).
Luke writes:
Dear TWiV crew,
You guys occasionally talk about the flaws of the publication and grant review process, so I was wondering what your thoughts were on the recent commentary in Nature regarding an investigation done by AMGEN (http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v483/n7391/full/483531a.html). They tried to reproduce the results of 53 "landmark" papers in cancer research and were only able to do so for six, even after contacting the labs where the studies were done as well as, in some cases, using their reagents or even physically conducting the experiments in the original labs. Although, as you have mentioned, the severity of this problem is different for different fields (cancer research, due to its clinical applications, being perhaps one of the worse ones), my guess would be that it exists to some degree everywhere. Ideally, as with the XMRV story, misleading results are resolved, but the Nature commentary shows that this is not always the case. And while in many cases such a study could cause some dead ends in the lab, other cases exist where misleading results make their way into clinical trials, large sums of money are wasted, and patients receive treatments that do not work.
I was wondering what your thoughts were on this problem in general and if you had any guesses as to how prevalent it is in virology specifically. You've remarked on supplemental data. Especially with Science and Nature, which would like to squeeze in as many articles as possible, the supplement has become a way to have very short main bodies of articles with frequent references to supplemental figures that make the papers unreadable. However, having the supplemental information means that you can publish all the data that is generated, which would allow for others to see any existing inconsistencies and more accurately judge how reliable the study is. As Bagley and Ellis remark, this would mean the stories would become less perfect, but most people who work in biological sciences already know that biology is sloppy and rarely as clean cut as we would like it to be. Any thoughts on how the pressure for complete, perfect stories could be lifted given the existing competition for grants?
As always, thanks a lot for all your efforts to make science accessible to people outside your field. The casual conversational style that the these podcasts have make them a pleasure to listen to after a long day of focusing on small technical details in dryly written formal texts.
Spencer writes:
Just as a followup, because there were so many groans about Netter's cadaver... Its common for the intended anonymity for cadavers to not work out. In Dr Netter's case, I recall that he specifically wanted the anatomy class to know that it was his body. When I did gross anatomy, my cadaver was still wearing his hospital wristband! It's a very interesting phenomenon, as the first year of medical progresses: Medical students, who spend inordinate amounts of time in the anatomy lab, go from being squeamish to being very non-chalant around dead bodies.
Again thanks and keep it coming. I especially like the revisit of basic parasitology with Dickson. I hope you don't run out of parasites of minor medical importance anytime soon.
Lark writes:
Hello TWIVians--
I read in the BBC's April-June "Focus on Africa" magazine an article by freelance journalist Alice Klein an article about health issues in Zambia. Klein notes that medical professionals in Africa are accusing NGOs of bending to financial incentives when they institute new vaccine programs with newly created vaccines. (Rotavirus was the example used in the article.) The African doctors argue that pushing newly-created vaccines creates neglect of vaccination for "basic" diseases such as measles. I had been under the impression that the profit margin for newly created vaccinations was relatively (?) small--ie., not large enough to influence such funding allocations or disrupt existing vaccination programs. Your (financially disinterested) thoughts? Have you also been hearing Developing World anecdotes about short-changing older, well-proven vaccines in favor of flashier, costlier new ones?
lay-reader in Goodrich, TX
Jim writes:
NIH recently offered two presentations that your post-doc and younger listeners might appreciate. They are from the NIH. One deals with "Using Linked-In Effectively: Seventh in the "How to" Series" while the other is about "Careers in Science Writing: Sixth in the 'How To' Series." Both sounded pretty useful. The video version of the Linked-In talk includes visual demos of computer screens so the video version of that one is more useful. Alan might like to comment on the science writer talk. Both talks are professionally oriented and detailed enough to be useful to job hunters, job suppliers, and anyone interested in improving communication skills.
Science writer advocates might also appreciate this item I put in my blog:
Professional Listening - Conversations Network seeks people to listen to podcasts and write summaries of them for which it pays $5 each. The link will produce the application processes which consists of producing a short and long summary of a sample podcast, with photo, biography of the speaker, and resources, exactly what is seen for each entry at this typical page. Once accepted you have to produce two reviews under the eye of a mentor who will get your payments for that work, but payment will go to you starting with the third product. You need a Paypal account where payments are made. It can take a month until you get your first payment and they may be bundled, rather than one-at-a-time. You will be paid to learn!
Smithfield, VA
Luis writes:
Dear TWiVers,
Once again, thank you very much for your excellent podcast and your service to the community of researchers and educators in the biology field (and specifically in virology). It has been a while since my last e-mail. Don't worry! You haven't lost a fan. I haven't missed a podcast since TWiV 113, when I learnt about your show. Your recent podcasts TWiV 173 and 183 discussing about bats harboring influenza and paramyxovirus, respectively, brought back to my attention a paper published last year in PLoS Pathogens, where using deep sequencing techniques, authors reported finding Ebolavirus-like filovirus sequences in bats from caves located in Asturias, Northern Spain. http://www.plospathogens.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.ppat.1002304
As a native of that part of the country I was surprised and interested on the whole story. Of course, there was no evidence of infection or disease, and there were just (only) sequences, but anyway, I found it very interesting and intriguing. I wonder if this kind of search for filovirus has been carried out in other countries outside of Africa (maybe in the U.S.?).
On a related issue, I recently learnt about a huge virus hunting project known as "Global Viral Forecasting Initiative" (http://www.gvfi.org/). Do you have any information about it? Perhaps, it would be nice to have one of their leaders talking about it in your show…
Thank you very much again for your efforts to promote science in general and virology in particular… and long life to TWiV!
Centro de Biologia Molecular Severo Ochoa (CSIC-UAM)
Madrid, Spain
Jim writes:
Just in case you haven't seen this. Sort of timely, after your immunology podcast. Perhaps your son, the game player, can evaluate?
Smithfield, VA
Stephen writes:
I thought you might like to look at Michael Specter's piece in the March 12, 2012 issue of The New Yorker entitled "The Deadliest Virus." It might seem out of date at this point, but it's featured on The New Yorker web site's new Health section. This kind of article could get cited in classrooms, etc. (The article's behind a paywall, but the issue is in libraries.)
I'm not qualified to do a point-by-point analysis, but I saw a number of errors--or at least questionable statements.
Of course, some of these points could be called picky. I don't expect a response; I just wanted to bring this to your attention.
Page 1:
No mention that the 1918 flu was an avian flu. The opening discussion could be read as contrasting avian flu with the 1918 flu.
Definition of "pandemic," point two: "it would have to kill them [humans]" See http://www.virology.ws/2009/05/23/who-will-redefine-pandemic/ for example.
I'm not so clear on point three: "it would have to spread easily." How important is "easy" spread in defining pandemic?
Description of the annual meeting of the European Scientific Working Group: were the scientists "astonished" at Fouchier's presentation? Had it been carried out in secret up to that point?
Description of Fouchier's work as "simply transferring avian influenza from one ferret to another had made it highly contagious." My understanding from TWIV's discussion of the now-published paper is that there was a *lot* of genetic work done on the virus, and that the issue was whether the virus could spread from ferret to ferret at all.
Page 2:
"...they had altered the genetic sequence of the virus in a variety of ways. That had no effect." My understanding from TWIV's discussion of the now-published paper is that the genetic work was what made the virus transmissible.
"When Fouchier examined the flu cells..." Maybe he meant "the cells infected by the flu virus," but I think it's just a mistake.
"There were only five genetic changes in two of the viruses' eight genes." 8 RNA segments, 11 genes, correct?
"Fouchier's achievement was to place all five mutations together in one virus, which meant that nature could do precisely what he had done in the lab." The first part of the sentence contradicts the first point I made for this page. And is the second part of the sentence true? Can we assume that any lab-built genetic construct could arise naturally? Of course, in this case, the intent of the research was to investigate what genetic changes would be needed for transmission.
"...a dangerous form of life, manipulated and enhanced by man, had become lethal." Lethal to *ferrets*.
Michael T. Osterholm is characterized as "one of the nation's leading experts on influenza and bioterrorism," and is quoted extensively.
Re: the 1970s H1N1, "Most virologists familiar with the outbreak are convinced that it came from a sample that was frozen in a lab and then released accidentally." I've never heard this. It is true?
"The labs in Rotterdam and Wisconsin where the H5N1 ferret work was conducted were both BSL-3 facilities." My understanding from TWIV's discussion of the now-published paper is that the work with the actual genetically manipulated H5N1 was in BSL-4. Did I get that wrong?
Page 3
"Fouchier's virus, which now sits in a vault within his securely guarded underground laboratory in Rotterdam, has fundamentally altered the scope of the biological sciences." Seems like hyperbole to me.
Osterholm: "Those researchers have all of our lives at the ends of their fingers."
"worldwide pandemic" is redundant.
"Fouchier hoped to characterize the properties that make the virus so much deadlier than others." Deadlier to what?
Page 4
"Once you create a virus that could kill millions of people." Is there evidence that this is true?
Thomas Inglesby"s quote seems to contain some assumptions:
"turn a lethal virus into a lethal and highly contagious virus" Lethal to what? Contagious in what?
"publish how they did it so others can copy it." Well, other virologists with the proper facilities and expertise and institutional approval could copy the work. Isn't that the core of scientific publishing? (There's an important point here. What kind of lab is actually required to replicate this kind of work? What would it cost? How much eduction and training would a staff need? What size staff? Could all the equipment and reagents be acquired secretly? I suspect the mention of "garage" is bogus.)
"As biology has become more accessible, the balance between freedom and protection has become harder to maintain." What does "biology has become more accessible" mean? Is scientific publication about "freedom"? Does suppression of publication equal "protection"?
While a slippery-slope argument can easily be ridiculed, both of these statements seem to me to be at least partly aimed at biology eduction.
Page 5
"It is not clear when or where the research will continue." If The New Yorker had delayed publication for a month or two, this would have become clear.
The whole discussion of Rob Carlson's blog post on home meth labs and e-mail hacking seems irrelevant or barely relevant.
Sizun writes:
Greetings Twiv-ters!
Hi, I'm Sizun Jiang, a graduate from Wisconsin-Madison and waiting to enter grad school in the Harvard Virology Program. I am currently residing in Singapore (where the weather is 29C and 84% humidity, but usually it is 33C and a gazillion humidity).
I have always been a great fan of viruses, and have always been interested in using molecular virology as a tool to understand ourselves better. Interestingly, although I have yet to actually had the chance to work on or with viruses, I have been lucky enough to have had a great education from established virologists like Paul Ahlquist, Ann Palmenburg, Rob Kalejta and Thomas German. Sadly, I never had the chance for any interactions with Yoshi Kawaoka :(
Ever since discovering your podcast 2 years back while researching for virology programs for grad school, I AM ADDICTED! It is hands down the best podcast I know! It is a great source of information for anyone on viruses, and always a great way to keep up to date with current information both with-in and with-out the virology world, while learning about scientific writing, ethics, biosafety, etc, with a healthy dose of humor mixed in! I love leeching off all the great information from Vince, Rich, Alan and Dick. Although the latter may be more for anecdotes :P Oh I jest.
Twiv is a great companion for me when I go for long runs, giving me a comprehensive workout both physically and mentally. I have always wanted to write in to Twiv, but have yet to come across anything interesting to share, or anything fun to contribute. That changes today!
Here is a great listeners' pick for you guys:
It's a little game called plague inc, which I just came across and was hooked on. Of course my first reaction was: I gotta share it with Twiv! In the game, you play the role of viruses, bacteria, prions, etc as you try to mutate your strain to infect and wipeout the whole world, starting from patient zero! Think of it as epidemiology for pathogens. I highly recommend trying this out on an ipad, although you can play with it on the iphone too!
All in all, keep up the awesome work! I look forward to many more episodes of great fun and great learning from Twiv.
Lance writes:
Dear Vincent & team,
I thoroughly enjoyed your podcast on reforming science - very thought provoking. There was, in my view, one thing missing from the discussion (and from the articles) though it's of a slightly different nature and not such a systemic problem. That is: improving management and leadership in science. This is a problem in common with the only other field I have direct experience of, the field of clinical medicine. In both areas, at least until relatively recently and still persisting in many quarters, exists the dogma that being good at something also means you will be good at managing other people doing that same thing. This is most definitely no so in my experience, and I have seen some truly appalling efforts at trying to manage and motivate a group of people. This is something that most scientists have no formal training in, and nor as far as I can tell does it play much role in promotion or the awarding of funding. You can have the best ideas in the world but if you can't work effectively with other people they aren't much use. Paying more attention to the role of management and leadership in science would lead to greater productivity in my view.
Thanks again for a great show,
Richard writes:
Hello Vince, and co-hosts (I'm never quite sure who will be on the podcast, you swap things about quite often, this is likely a good thing)
The weather here in Weston super Mare, England. It is cloudy and 11 C, though it will get warmer and brighter later in the day.
It's just a quick note, I'm sure you have already heard of the genome compiler project. I've just found out about it from Twit, they have an interview with the creators, it is twit live special 126 (from twit.tv).
I haven't yet decided if I like the idea, but it seems like the beginning of something big. I guess time will tell. I can see that this is something that the human race needs, but I'm not sure if the potential to do bad things outweighs the benefit.
I must get to work, unfortunately, however I'll have the latest episode of twiv to listen to, while on the way.
Thanks again for the podcasts, keep up the good work.
http://twit.tv/show/twit-live-specials/126 and www.genomecompiler.com

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A conversation with Jean-Pierre Filiu, Professor of Middle East Studies at Sciences Po. Jean-Pierre Filiu has been Associate Professor at Sciences Po since 2006, where he has taught in the International Security program at the Paris School of International Affairs. A Sciences Po summa cum laude graduate (1981), he holds a dual dregree in Chinese (1983) and Arabic (1985) from the Institut national de langues et civilisations orientales, a PhD in History (Sciences Po, 1985) and an accreditation to supervise research (2008). He was visiting professor at Columbia and Georgetown University and is a member of the scientific board of the Maison méditerranéenne des Sciences de l'homme and of the Steering Committee of the Annuaire de la Méditerranée. He joined the CERI in 2009. Lunch will be served at this event. This event will be moderated by Tarek Masoud, Associate Professor at Harvard Kennedy School. **CHANGE IN LOCATION: Please note this event is now being held in Allison Dining Room, Taubman Building, 5th Floor, Harvard Kennedy School.


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Flames Take Third Straight with Win over Concord
|Sirchauncey Holloway led the Flames with 142 rushing yards and two touchdowns against Concord on Saturday.
The Liberty Flames allowed an opponent season-low 177 yards of total offense and controlled the clock in a 21-13 non-conference home victory over Concord, Saturday afternoon, at Williams Stadium.
With the win, Liberty's third in a row, the Flames move to 3-4 on the season. The loss ends the Mountain Lions' two-game win streak and evens their record at 4-4 on the year. Liberty is now 5-0 all-time against Concord.
The Family Weekend game was played in front of 18,643 fans, the fourth largest crowd in Williams Stadium history.
It wasn't until the fifth play of the second quarter that either team could find the scoreboard, which saw the Mountain Lions take a 7-0 lead thanks to a strong special teams effort.
Liberty managed to cross into Concord's red zone before Flames quarterback Josh Woodrum was sacked for an 11-yard loss.
Aaron Sassaman was then called in to attempt his first career field goal from 47 yards out. The sophomore's attempt was blocked at the line of scrimmage by Ervin Moore and the loose ball was scooped up and returned 58 yards for a touchdown by Nate Pollard to give the visitors the edge with 12:57 left to play before halftime.
The Flames were able to answer back on their next possession, putting together a 10-play, 94-yard scoring drive to knot the score at 7-7 with 7:52 left in the opening half.
Six rushes by Sirchauncey Holloway were mixed in between some sizeable passing plays from Woodrum.
The first was a 27-yard completion to Elliott Dutra to get the Flames near midfield. Four plays later and facing third-and-one, freshman wide receiver Darrin Peterson was able to create some space between himself and his defender to pull in a 41-yard touchdown pass in the end zone for his first career touchdown reception.
The score remained the same until the game's first turnover was created. After Liberty's Francis Bah blocked a 47-yard field goal by Andy Ellington, the Flames took over possession of the football with less than six minutes left to play before halftime.
Aldreakis Allen carried the ball for three straight plays before Woodrum tried to find Liberty's leading receiver Pat Kelly open for a reception. However, the senior slipped on the play and Riyahd Richardson intercepted the pass and returned it 49 yards to the one-yard line.
Fullback Ben Nester was given the ball on the next play and found the end zone with 3:41 left before halftime. Bah once again was able to get a hand on a kicked ball, blocking the extra point attempt to leave the score 13-7 in favor of the visitors.
Woodrum completed all three of his pass attempts on the next drive for a total of 42 yards, helping set up a three-yard touchdown run by Holloway with 43 seconds left before halftime. Sassaman's kick was successful, allowing the Flames to enter the locker room with a 14-13 lead.
The Flames outgained the Mountain Lions 269 yards to 97 during the first half and finished with more than twice as many offensive plays (43 for Liberty and 17 for Concord).
Allen led Liberty's 126-yard team rushing attack, carrying the ball 10 times for 71 yards. Holloway carried the ball 12 times and gained 44 yards.
Concord's limited rushing attack was paced by Calvinaugh Jones, who had five rushing attempts for 12 yards. As a team, Concord had 24 rushing yards during the opening half.
Woodrum finished the first half completing 11-of-16 pass attempts for 143 yards, while Evin Dusold was 4-of-8 for Concord with 73 passing yards.
Dutra was Liberty's leading first-half receiver with five receptions for 67 yards, while Dusold's four completions were to four different Mountain Lion receivers. The longest pass was a 56-yarder to Jocorey Robins during the second quarter.
Another 10-play scoring drive allowed the Flames to extend their lead with 5:28 left to play in the third quarter.
Following a 22-yard punt return by Walt Aikens, Liberty elected to hand the ball to Holloway seven times on the 10-play drive. The senior picked up 52 of the team's 56 yards on the seven carries, including the last, a two-yard run up the middle to push Liberty's lead to 21-13.
Liberty's defense took over from that point, allowing the visitors just 66 additional total offensive yards during the remaining 20 minutes of the contest.
Following the final horn, Liberty had allowed an opponent season-low 177 total offensive yards and held its fourth opponent in seven games below 300 total offensive yards. The Flames came into the game ranked No. 28 in the country in total defense (328.5 yards allowed per game).
The Flames dominated most of the offensive stats during the afternoon, finishing the game with more first downs (22 to 6), rushing yards (233 to 47), passing yards (173 to 130), total offensive yards (406 to 177) and time of possession (40:38 to 19:22).
The large edge on the clock marked the second time this season Liberty has finished a game with more than 40 minutes of total time of possession. The Flames came into the game ranked No. 6 in the country in average time of possession (33:47).
For the second straight game and the fifth time in his career, Holloway surpassed the 100-yard mark on the ground. The senior rushed 28 times for 142 yards and scored two touchdowns. Holloway now has 26 career touchdowns, leaving him just three away from cracking Liberty's career top five list.
Allen followed with 17 carries for 94 yards, nearly giving the Flames their third running back duo this year to surpass the 100-yard mark in the same game.
Woodrum failed the hit the 200 passing yard mark for the first time as a starting quarterback. The redshirt freshman completed 16-of-24 passing attempts for 173 yards, but was sacked three times.
Dutra led the Flames on the game with seven catches for 80 yards, marking new career highs in both categories for the senior. The game marked the first time this year Kelly has not led the Flames in receiving, as he was ranked No. 7 in the country in receptions per game prior to the Concord game (7.83).
Jones, who was averaging 100.8 rushing yards per game on the season, finished the contest with 10 carries for 23 yards for the Mountain Lions. Robins followed with four rushes for 20 yards.
In his first career start at quarterback, Dusold was limited to 10-of-24 passing for 130 yards. Ansel Ponder led the Mountain Lions with three receptions for 18 yards, while Robins paced the team in total receiving yards on his 56-yard reception.
Only 15 players finished the game with tackles for Liberty, led by Brent Vinson. The senior finished the career game with 10 stops (five solo, five assisted), and recorded a nine-yard sack that knocked the Mountain Lions out of field goal range during the fourth quarter.
Concord had four players finish with double-figure stops, starting with 18 tackles by Jake Lilly (12 solo, six assisted).
Howard Jordan followed with a dozen stops (eight solo, four assisted), while Kevin Elliott and Davon Marion each had 11 tackles (eight solo and three assisted).
The Flames return to Big South play next weekend when they travel to Conway, S.C., to face Big South rival Coastal Carolina.
Both teams are coming off sizeable conference road victories. Last week, Liberty racked up a program-record 692 total offensive yards in a 56-7 win at Presbyterian College. Earlier today, Coastal Carolina scored the game's first 34 points before allowing a late touchdown in a 34-7 road win over VMI in Lexington, Va.
The two teams have traded victories in the last two meetings, with the home team prevailing in both contests. The Chanticleers handed the Flames a 45-31 setback in Conway in 2010 and Liberty convincingly defeated No. 20 Coastal Carolina, 63-27, for a Homecoming win, last year.


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Indianapolis • Indiana spent the entire season perfecting its defense.
On Saturday, it produced the biggest payoff for the Pacers in nearly a decade.
Roy Hibbert's block of Carmelo Anthony's dunk attempt midway through the fourth quarter spurred an 11-2 run that rallied the Pacers to a 106-99 victory in Game 6 of their second-round series, sending them into their first Eastern Conference final since 2004.
New York native Lance Stephenson scored nine points in the run, finishing with a playoff career-high 25.
"That's why they pay me the big bucks this summer, so I have to protect the paint," said Hibbert, who signed a $58 million contract last summer. "If all else fails, meaning the offense, I have to protect the paint."
With players from both teams standing on the court as the final seconds ticked off and Pacers fans roaring in appreciation, the sellout crowd wasted little time breaking into chants of "Beat The Heat!"
For Indiana, it sets up a postseason rematch with the defending NBA champs, the team that eliminated them last May after the Pacers had taken a 2-1 lead in the best-of-seven semifinals. The Heat wound up winning Game 4 at Indiana and followed that with two more wins as Danny Granger struggled with a knee injury.
Indiana used the lessons from that series as motivation to improve this season and wound up beating the Heat twice at home before losing the third game of the season series at Miami. The Pacers will return to South Florida for Game 1 on Wednesday night.
With Granger missing all but five games this season because of the lingering knee injury, the Pacers put an even greater emphasis on playing defense and it showed.
Indiana led the league in rebounding, defensive field goal percentage and defensive 3-point percentage while finishing second in points allowed per game during the regular season. It was no different in the playoffs, as the Knicks found out.
New York had another subpar shooting night Saturday, making just 40 percent of its shots, and again wound up on the wrong side of a 43-36 rebounding discrepancy. In the paint, New York was outscored 52-20, and Anthony, who finished with 39 points, scored just four points in the final 12 minutes when he went 2 of 7 from the field.
Iman Shumpert added 19 points, hitting five 3-pointers, and J.R. Smith scored 15. Nobody else was in double figures.
The combination, as it had been in the previous three losses to Indiana, produced the same frustrating result.
"They have a hell of a defense. They hold down the paint. They do a great job, do a hell of a job of controlling the paint, closing it down, making it tough for guys," Anthony said. "You've got to give them guys credit, especially when they got a chance to set. Roy Hibbert gets to sit in the paint, causes havoc."
It's not just that.
The biggest question coming into Saturday's game was whether starting point guard George Hill would play. He took part in the team's morning shootaround, was cleared by the team doctors and wound up returning two days after missing Game 5 with a concussion. His return gave the Pacers a big boost.
Hill finished with just 12 points on 2-of-10 shooting but had five rebounds and four assists, and kept the Pacers composed enough to commit only nine turnovers 10 fewer than Thursday night's loss in New York.
The results showed up everywhere on the floor.
Paul George had 23 points, five rebounds and four assists. David West added 17 points, five rebounds and four assists, and Hibbert finished with 21 points, 12 rebounds and five blocks, none bigger than the stuff on Anthony that changed the game. Stephenson had 10 rebounds and three assists in his best postseason game ever.
The reason: He wanted to avoid a trip home.
"I just didn't want to go back to New York and play Game 7," Stephenson said. "Just get it done with now and I'd do whatever it takes to do that today. It showed tonight."
The New York native made sure of it.
After George grabbed the rebound off of Hibbert's block, Stephenson took a pass from West and scored on a layup to tie the score at 92 with 4:51 left in the game. Stephenson followed that with a steal and drove in for a layup, drawing a foul and completing a three-point play. After grabbing another rebound and making two more free throws, West tipped in a miss and Stephenson closed the decisive spurt with another layup. Suddenly, the Pacers led 101-94 with 1:53 to go.
New York never got another chance to tie the score or take the lead again despite making a far more typical 13 of 30 from 3-point range.
"It's tough to go out this way," coach Mike Woodson said. "I didn't make it happen for us and that's what's disappointing."
The Pacers have a far different goal now as they get ready to face LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Miami.
"We're not satisfied with where we're at," coach Frank Vogel said. "We feel like there's no ceiling on this team this year."
O Saturday
Indiana 106, New York 99
Pacers win series 4-2
Conference finals
• Memphis at San Antonio, 1:30 p.m., Ch. 4
• Miami vs. Indiana, 6:30 p.m., TNT Pacers 106,Knicks 99
FG FT Reb
N.Y. Min M-A M-A O-T A PF Pts
Shumprt 25:17 6-10 2-2 1-3 0 6 19
Anthony 41:56 15-29 8-8 2-7 2 5 39
Chandler 22:53 1-4 0-0 5-6 0 6 2
Felton 32:32 0-7 2-2 3-3 6 2 2
Prigioni 29:24 2-6 0-0 0-0 6 2 6
Smith 35:16 4-15 5-5 2-10 3 3 15
Martin 21:31 2-3 1-1 0-4 1 6 5
Kidd 6:23 0-0 0-0 0-0 1 1 0
Copelnd 19:01 3-8 0-0 1-3 0 1 9
Stoudmre 5:47 1-3 0-0 0-0 0 2 2
Totals 240:00 34-85 18-18 14-36 19 34 99
Percentages: FG .400, FT 1.000. 3-Point Goals: 13-30, .433 (Shumpert 5-6, Copeland 3-6, Prigioni 2-5, Smith 2-9, Anthony 1-4). Team Rebounds: 9. Team Turnovers: 9 (12 PTS). Blocked Shots: 0. Turnovers: 9 (Anthony 3, Felton 2, Copeland, Shumpert, Smith, Stoudemire). Steals: 3 (Felton, Kidd, Martin). Technical Fouls: Smith, 1:40 second.
FG FT Reb
Indiana Min M-A M-A O-T A PF Pts
George 45:28 9-15 3-9 0-5 4 3 23
West 38:08 6-12 5-6 1-5 4 1 17
Hibbert 42:18 6-13 9-12 6-12 2 2 21
Hill 42:07 2-10 7-7 0-5 4 1 12
Stephnsn 34:22 9-13 7-8 1-10 3 1 25
THnsbrgh 10:30 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 3 0
Augustin 13:27 1-2 0-0 0-0 0 1 3
Young 9:21 1-2 3-4 3-5 0 3 5
Mahinmi 4:19 0-0 0-0 0-1 0 1 0
Totals 240:00 34-67 34-46 11-43 17 16 106
Percentages: FG .507, FT .739. 3-Point Goals: 4-15, .267 (George 2-3, Augustin 1-2, Hill 1-6, Young 0-1, Stephenson 0-3). Team Rebounds: 8. Team Turnovers: 9 (14 PTS). Blocked Shots: 7 (Hibbert 5, Hill, Young). Turnovers: 9 (George 2, T.Hansbrough 2, Hibbert 2, Augustin, Hill, West). Steals: 4 (Augustin, George, Hibbert, Stephenson). Technical Fouls: None.
New York 27 20 34 18 99
Indiana 29 26 26 25 106
Attendance • 18,165
Time • 2:41.
Officials • Ken Mauer, Ed Malloy, Tom Washington.


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Wash. Post ombudsman favors the Right -- again
Blog ››› ››› JAMISON FOSER
In a blog post about David Weigel's departure from the Washington Post, the paper's ombudsman demonstrated once again a stunning bias in favor of its conservative critics. Ombudsman Andrew Alexander, like other key figures at the Post, routinely gives more weight and credence to criticisms of the paper that come from conservatives than to those that come from liberals -- despite the fact that on several of the biggest stories of the past two decades, the Post has (intentionally or not) placed not just a thumb but an entire forearm on the scales in favor of conservatives.
Among the most weighty progressive critiques of the Post:
1) The relentless obsession with Clinton-era non-scandals on the part of both the Post's news and editorial pages, as illustrated by the paper's editorial call for a special counsel to investigate Whitewater even as the paper admitted there was "no credible charge" either Clinton had done anything wrong. The Post's overheated reaction to every trumped-up allegation in Clinton is even more glaring after having witnessed the paper's comparatively minimalist approach to Bush-era misdeeds.
2) The Post's "war against Gore" during the 2000 election, exemplified by Ceci Connolly's snarky -- and 100% false -- lede on December 2, 1999:
"Add Love Canal to the list of verbal missteps by Vice President Gore. The man who mistakenly claimed to have inspired the movie 'Love Story' and to have invented the Internet says he didn't quite mean to say he discovered a toxic waste site when he said at a high school forum Tuesday in New Hampshire: 'I found a little place in upstate New York called Love Canal.' Gore went on to brag about holding the 'first hearing on that issue' and said 'I was the one that started it all.'"
That -- including some of the words in quotes -- is just completely wrong. And it was typical of the Washington Post's thumb-on-the-scale coverage of the 2000 campaign -- coverage that, given the election's razor-thin margin, can fairly be described as having unfairly put George W. Bush in office.
3) The Post's abject failure to appropriately cover the Bush administration's false case for war in Iraq, a failure to which enough Post reporters and editors have confessed that it need not be detailed here.
And those are just the clearest example of the Post's history-changing mishandling of specific stories. There's also the matter of what may be the nation's worst editorial & opinion pages and the constant drumbeat of articles and features that adopt conservative framing and assumptions.
If there is a single legitimate conservative gripe about the Washington Post that even begins to approach the magnitude of the Post's shoddy coverage of Clinton, the 2000 campaign, and the Iraq war, I've never heard it -- and I've never seen a Post reporter, editor, or Ombudsman cite it.
And yet Alexander and Post editors routinely refer to conservative unease with the Post, and validate that unease by bending over backwards to appease their conservative critics. Meanwhile, they typically pretend that liberal critics don't exist, and that the fiascos outlined above never happened.
Compare, for example, Alexander's handling of the Weigel story with his column about a similar situation: the Washington Post web video in which reporter Dana Milbank called Hillary Clinton a "bitch." The situations are similar, in that both involved a Washington Post employee making disparaging comments about political figures. But there are a few differences: Weigel's comments were made in private, on an off-the-record email listserv, while Milbank's were made publicly in a video produced by the Post and hosted on the Post's web site. And Weigel's comments were about conservatives, while Milbank's ugly insult was directed at a progressive. Oh, and Dana Milbank got to keep his job, despite the fact that his transgression, being public and part of his work product, would seem to be the far greater of the two.
Washington Post ombudsman Andrew Alexander laced his write-up of Weigel's departure with references to conservative complaints about the Post, an aspect of the story Alexander found important enough to merit inclusion in his headline: "Blogger loses job; Post loses standing among conservatives."
Alexander wrote, for example:
Weigel's exit, and the events that prompted it, have further damaged The Post among conservatives who believe it is not properly attuned to their ideology or activities. Ironically, Weigel was hired to address precisely those concerns.
Notice that no example of the reasons for conservatives' ire toward the Post is included: Alexander just treats it as a given that they are upset with the Post, and that they must have reasons. The conservative contention that the Post favors liberals is presented as a key element of the story, and one that need not be challenged.
In comparison, Alexander's column about Post reporter Dana Milbank calling Hillary Clinton a "bitch" didn't contain so much as a hint that the episode might damage the paper's credibility among liberals, or that liberals might already have some complaints about the paper that would be exacerbated by Milbank's video. No liberals were quoted or paraphrased; there wasn't even any mention that liberals were unhappy about Milbank's stunt. Contrast that to Alexander's write-up of Weigel's departure from the Post, in which the Alexander dedicated four full paragraphs to the complaints of the conservative Media Research Center's Dan Gainor.
And, again, this is typical of Alexander's approach, as I have documented several times. He consistently stipulates to the validity of conservative complaints while ignoring liberal perspectives.
And not just Alexander. Post executive editor also says the Post needs to be more responsive to conservatives. And, when asked to reconcile that statement with the Post's coverage of the 2000 presidential election and the Iraq war, Brauchli refuses to answer. His deputies duck the question, too.
You simply cannot objectively and intelligently discuss conservative claims that the Washington Post is biased against them without addressing the Post's treatment of Clinton, the 2000 election, or the Iraq war. It's like discussing a claim that Babe Ruth wasn't a very good hitter without mentioning all the home runs he hit. And yet the Washington Post's ombudsman and editors do this all the time.
The news media's disparate treatment of media critiques from the Left and from the Right pretty much disproves the idea of "liberal bias." If they really were biased in favor of liberals, liberal concerns about their coverage of huge matters like Iraq and Gore/Bush would get far more play than conservative complaints about whether an article about ACORN should have come a week earlier.
UPDATE: I should note that Alexander's blog post about Weigel did not contain a single criticism -- not even a general one -- about the content of Weigel's reporting for the Post. Not one. Apparently Alexander finds conservative complaints that have nothing to do with the actual content of Washington Post reports more compelling than liberal critiques -- such as those about the Post's coverage of the 2000 election and Iraq -- that are entirely about the content of Washington Post reports. What does that tell you?
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Small, nonfarm businesses, small agricultural cooperatives, small businesses engaged in aquaculture and most private nonprofit organizations of any size affected drought (in a federally declared drought area), may qualify for Economic Injury Disaster Loans (EIDLs) of up to $2 million to help meet financial obligations and operating expenses which could have been met had the disaster not occurred.
By law, SBA makes EIDLs available when the U. S. Secretary of Agriculture designates an agricultural disaster.
Businesses primarily engaged in farming or ranching are not eligible for SBA disaster assistance. Agricultural enterprises should contact the Farm Services Agency (FSA) about the U. S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) assistance made available by the Secretary's declaration. However, in drought disasters nurseries are eligible for SBA disaster assistance.
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Fairbanks, Alaska - Pingo is the name of the new Cray XT5 supercomputer arriving at the Arctic Region Supercomputing Center at the University of Alaska Fairbanks this fall. ARSC's newest supercomputer was acquired through the Department of Defense High Performance Computing Modernization Program. Pingo will provide approximately 31.8 theoretical peak teraflops of computing power and will have 3,456 processor cores on 432 nodes. It will have 13.5 terabytes of memory and 150 terabytes of shared high-speed storage. A smaller test and development system will accompany the main system. XT5 systems use Cray's SeaStar interconnect.
Supercomputing resources at ARSC are used by a global community of researchers within the U.S. Defense Department, the University of Alaska and other locations. Projects include study of the world's oceans, which consists of creating models that predict the force and direction of tsunami waves or the potential for ice-free summers in the Arctic.
Studies of atmospheric phenomena include development of accurate and reliable modeling of the influence of weather on volcanic ash transport, which has an immediate impact on aircraft flying northern polar routes and the health and safety of those on the ground. Pingo will allow ARSC to expand atmospheric studies that include forecasting space weather's impact on worldwide communications and radar systems, as well as providing optimal, Arctic-specific high-resolution Earth weather forecasts to include smoke dispersion from wildfires.
ARSC has a history of naming supercomputing systems with Arctic themes. A pingo is an earth-covered ice hill formed by the upward expansion of underground ice. Pingos tend to form in permafrost environments and can reach a height of up to 230 feet.
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Limerick City is in the west of Ireland close to the river Shannon. The city dates from the pre-Viking era but became more established in the ninth century. It suffered heavily under the onslaught of Oliver Cromwell and his soldiers in 1651. Limerick is only fifteen miles from Shannon Airport and is a great place to be at the weekend. Limerick is a lively and growing city, particularly with the advent of five new Limerick hotels in 2006. You can take an historical walk around the town. Hotels in Limerick, just as in the rest of Ireland offer a warm welcome to tourists and other guests although it may not be easy to get a place in discount hotels. Limerick is a popular place to visit and Limerick cheap hotels may be fully booked.If you plan on visiting Limerick in the future then book early with one of the many sites such as EasyToBook.com that way youll have money left in the budget to enjoy all that Ireland has to offer. Have a look around the twelfth century Cathedral of St. Marys or the thirteenth century castle of King John. Visit the Hunt Museum or the Bell Table Arts Centre.


text: I've build several coops now and have 1 suggestion. Make your bins at waist level so you don't have to bend over all the time to get eggs. My new one for 35 hens has 10 bins of which they lay in 4. Figures. I made a ramp for them to walk up, had to staple chicken wire to it for traction. If you would like pictures I can go take some. It's alittle over the top...we joke about our 3 coops...Becky's first one is " The Ghetto"...very primative..4 feet high and 5 wide 4 bins. The newer one was 8x 4 x8'with bins at one end 4 bins on 2 levels ( The Condo)...Then I got tired of bending over and Built " THE EMBASSY SUITES", made it as an addition to the condo but 8' by 8' with an 8' ceiling for storage. They love it. The bins wrap around 2 sides with a walkway and roosts on top. The door is tied to the old coop which I will make into straw storage when I have time.PM me if you want pic's


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Zak Billmeier grew up in southern Vermont and coastal Maine. After graduating from Mary Washington College with a Geography degree he still isn't sure quite what to do with, he eventually settled in the mountains of Central Virginia. He spends his free time chasing his daughter around, taking pictures, gardening and cooking. He joined Crutchfield's car A/V writing team in 2007 and is now a lead producer on our video team.
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Heads up!Welcome to this article from the Crutchfield archives. Have fun reading it, but be aware that the information may be outdated and links may be broken.
Zak, Crutchfield writer and photo enthusiast, tries out the retro Fujifilm FinePix X100 digital camera and puts it through its paces.
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Zak: I've got the Fuji X100 digital camera here, and you can probably tell at a glance that it looks a lot like old cameras do. And that's certainly on purpose. And it takes its design aesthetic from older rangefinder cameras from the fifties, sixties, and seventies.
But that's not what this camera is all about. The thing that I like about it best, as a photo enthusiast, is it puts the important controls right up front for you. You've got aperture control on the lens. You've got a shutter speed dial up here — exposure compensation — these are basic shooting controls that sometimes get lost in menus and click wheels and stuff on other cameras. This one puts it right there for you so you can control a lot of your shooting without taking your eye away from the viewfinder.
Of course a camera is only as good as its lens, and Fuji made a fantastic lens on the X100. It opens up to F2, which is pretty fast, and it'll let you get some of those shots in low light you're looking for. Also, it'll render backgrounds out of focus. And this lens has fantastic bokeh, which is the quality of out of focus elements of your picture. So you've got your subject in focus and then what's behind it out of focus. It's not the same with every lens. Some of them have kind of harsh edges to them. Everything you take with this one the backgrounds just melt away and look fantastic.
Perhaps the most different thing about the X100 is its viewfinder. It's a brand new viewfinder Fuji designed, and it's a hybrid optical and electric viewfinder. You can access all your menus and even get a preview of the shot you just took without taking your eye away from the viewfinder. And you can see here when you push the lever, a little screen will actually slide up to cover the optical viewfinder and that screen is your electronic viewfinder. You can also shoot it like a point and shoot looking at the back screen and you can set that up to trip this little eye sensor. When you change your mind and bring your eye up to the viewfinder again, it'll blank out the screen and then show you what's going on in the viewfinder.
Of course the most important thing is image quality and Fuji gives you outstanding image quality with this camera. One reason that is is its integration of the fill flash. Fill flash is of course this little flash that's built into the camera here. Most cameras have them. It's best for blasting out shadows when you're shooting out during the day. The tricky part usually is blending the ambient light with the fill light coming from the flash. This camera, somehow — I'm not sure how they did it — but it does an outstanding job of just blending the ambient light with the fill light and making a natural looking flash photograph that you might not have even known the flash was on.
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First, I know most here are from the UK, so if anyone can point me to a forum with mostly Americans i'd appreciate it, but it seems finding forums for this topic is almost as full of crap as finding quality certification in the first place
I see that Trinity offers some courses outside England but none in the US. When I type CELTA North America, there is one relevant-looking result to a dead page. Can I get CELTA in the US, and where?
Lastly, can anyone speak to how much of a difference in salary this certification will really make? I plan to teach in Asia.


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There's a interesting conversation going on over at Feministe. Someone wrote in decrying the use of anti-choice to describe folks who are not in favor of abortion. Miranda wrote:
That's why I much prefer the term anti-choice to pro-life, because that's what this whole fuss is about: telling women what to do with their bodies, their futures, their lives, instead of letting us choose for ourselves. If anti-choicers were truly pro-life, they would give a shit once the fetus was born — which, you know, they don't: anti-choicers are the ones who are cutting funds for child care and children's hospitals. And if they really cared about reducing the number of abortions, they'd stop pouring millions of dollars into bullshit sex ed programs and limiting access to birth control. What they are actually interested in is limiting women's choices — limiting women's lives.Anti-choice is a persuasive rhetorical term, same as pro-life. A lot of people have made a lot of persuasive and interesting statements in the comments, and I think women have a right to their own terminology on this. It's something that affects us, and it's a choice that only we can make, in our uterus and our language. I say pro-abortion and anti-abortion.
As I said in the comments there, I think that couching the debate about abortion in euphemisms is shaming those who make the choice in the affirmative – to get an abortion. So many people, on both sides [links not safe spaces], ascribe a lot of shame to making the choice of having an abortion. Pro-choice sounds to me like "tragic choice", which implies judgment in a serious way. I don't think that we should be afraid to say the word abortion. It's a choice, like any other. Not using the word rings as moralizing to me - what is so awful about the word, and the choice, that we can't just say it?
Why use vague terms that are not descriptive of what the debate is actually about? It's not about the notion of choice philosophically or in all arenas of life - it's about choice with regards to abortion and other reproductive rights. It's not about the idea of life - it's about the life of a parasitic fetus. This debate is about abortion and reproductive rights. It's vague, propagandistic, and childish to say anything else.
Why is abortion the subject which must not speak its name? Folks who are against abortion rights are just that. They're not against all choices, or for all life. Why use a term that implies they are, even if everyone knows we don't mean anti - ALL choices.
I don't really think that there's a right or a wrong term to use, as one commenter suggested. I understand that there are people who would not have an abortion, and don't feel comfortable saying that they are not personally for abortion, in their own situation. But one could still say abortion rights, or the equally descriptive pro reproductive rights if they just can't abide by the word abortion in describing your position on it. *
Using the term pro-abortion to describe my attitude politically and personally. I haven't had an abortion, but I might need one next month, or the month after. My partner and I always take measures to prevent pregnancy, but birth control fails. If it did, I would be on the phone to Planned Parenthood to plan my abortion posthaste. Other women may make another choice, and good for them, but if they want an abortion I think they should get it on demand. I am politically, personally, rhetorically, and literally pro-abortion.
ETA for clarity: I am for abortions. I am for aborting fetuses. This does not imply that I am for aborting all fetuses, any more than folks who say anti-choice are saying that anti-abortion rights folks are against all choices, ever.
This is not a theoretical or philosophical choice. I don't pretend that this is about the right to choose. For me, it's about the right to have an abortion. And I'm not alone - it's not a theoretical choice for many, many women. It's a choice, yes, but it's not really a choice for me - and I've got a lot more options than many many women. I am not ready financially, emotionally, or physically to carry a child.
It's not a theoretical choice for me. It's the way that I know I can continue to have authority over my own body.
*Perhaps I am, in turn, being too judgemental. How should I decree how other women describe their position towards such a personal subject? Folks should use the language they're comfortable with. This is a summary of the years-long argument I've been having with myself on the issue.


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Mosquitoes are tenacious creatures, but not nearly as tenacious as the people who hunt them down. One Chicago suburb is fortifying its relentless mosquito-abatement efforts with a weapon you'd be more likely to find in an Italian kitchen than inside an insecticide sprayer.
Fred Maier is director of the Spring Brook Nature Center in Itasca, Ill. Under his charge are miles of trails, acres of native plants, and a number of birds of prey being rehabilitated after injury. Mosquitoes—and the West Nile virus they carry—pose a threat not only to the citizens of Itasca, but also the birds in the sanctuary.
"We're always very concerned when we're trying to heal the birds, and prevent exposure to unnecessary risk," said Maier. "Birds of prey are one of the first groups severely affected by West Nile—since that disease moved into the area, we've seen an increase of it in 50% of the birds we received."
Also of concern to Maier and other village officials were the environmental threats associated with pesticides, and the cost of application. Clearly, a creative solution was called for. The answer? Garlic.
This year, the village is testing use of Garlic Barrier, a solution of 99% garlic oil, on about 4 acres of woodland in the nature center's property. The product—available from Glendale, Calif.-based Garlic Research Labs—has been tested against mosquitoes with some success by public works agencies in New York, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and other states, and Itasca officials are hoping the aromatic herb proves lucky for them.
According to Maier, using creative solutions to fight ornery problems is nothing new to the village. "It's common for us to try new things," he said. "Our mayor (Claudia Gruber) has a hundred new ideas a year, always interesting and worth pursuing."
The village had used the product before to keep deer away from young plants at the nature center. "When we were doing a restoration project on the grounds, deer viewed the new plantings as a salad bar," he said. Garlic proved a favorable alternative to chicken-wire cages, which were expensive, not very attractive, prone to damage, and hard to maintain.
Several months ago, agencies across DuPage County said they needed to move toward a better, more coordinated mosquito abatement effort—the idea being to craft a more effective response, and to save money by pooling resources. The mayor found that other municipalities had been using the garlic barrier as a mosquito repellent, so she brought the idea of using it to fight the biters to the attention of city leaders.
Itasca is the first agency in the Chicago area to test the pump sprayer-applied concoction against mosquitoes. The village's test will start this upcoming mosquito season; Maier expects they will test it for one to two years before broadening the scope of use to larger areas, or using it for Itasca's Fourth of July celebration or summer movies in the park.
The garlic oil isn't without potential drawbacks—its effectiveness might not meet expectations, the substance might bother chemically sensitive residents, and, if use is expanded in the future, the village or its abatement contractor might have to spring for new equipment. And while Maier said the odor reportedly fades a few hours after application, he is concerned that the initial appetizing smell of garlic might have a negative affect on his staff.
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MyDaily's Mary Katrantzou Wows at London Fashion Week
Feb 21, 2012
MyDaily's contributing editor, Mary Katrantzou, debuted her much anticipated fashion show for Autumn/Winter 2012 this morning as part of London Fashion Week.
Those lucky enough to have a ticket to the show received a Mary Katrantzou designed goody bag, which amongst other things, included the MyDaily Little Black Book, a pivotal asset hosting all the important fashion contacts a girl needs.
Mary was showcasing pieces from her Autumn/Winter 2012 collection, which was based around the beauty in mundane everyday things – think your office keyboard, spoons, clothes hangers and chess pieces!
You can read MyDaily's review of the collection and look through a gallery of her new designs here, and check out the latest London Fashion Week coverage all week on MyDaily.
MyDaily has another MyDaily Presents event planned with Mary Katrantzou in the next few months- stay tuned for more details!
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Alongside my event work, I am delighted to offer highly bespoke equestrian and animal portraits, both in a studio and in a natural setting. My work has been published and recognised in national magazines.
More recently, in a departure from my traditional work, I have enjoyed growing demand for my stylised sports portraits, photographing rowers to rugby players.
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Quote from: rail on June 05, 2012, 07:39:53 PMShould I make the hive 36" or 48"?Also, if you put entrances at both ends of the box, you can have two smaller colonies in the box at the same time. We have found that versatility to be very useful.
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Posted by Sarah Rotman Epps on October 23, 2012
Today, Apple unveiled a new lineup of devices: new iMacs, Mac Mini, a 13-inch Retina MacBook Pro (which, weighing in at only a half-pound more than the Air, is sure to be a best-seller, as its predecessor was), a fourth-generation 9.7-inch iPad (with 4x faster A6X processor, expanded LTE, faster Wi-Fi, Lightning connector, improved cameras, and other refinements), and…ta da!...the long-awaited iPad Mini. As early as October 2011, credible reports from Taiwan surfaced about a 7.85-inch iPad, so it's no surprise to see this product. And yet, Apple's execution dazzles. You pick up this device—which weighs only 0.68 pounds—and it feels feather-light, perfectly weight-balanced—and decidedly not made out of plastic, as its competitor devices are.
I want to pause for a moment to comment further about the weight, because my very first impression of the first-generation was "It's heavy!," much to the chagrin of Michael Tchao, VP of Product Marketing for iPad. The iPad Mini has a larger screen than competing devices from Barnes & Noble, Amazon, and Google, but it's somehow lighter than its competitors. Here's how the weights compare, courtesy of each vendor's product specs page:


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Grab a spade bit and drill two holes front and back on your lid, spaced about thirds across the edge. Then staple some flywire over the hole. Voila!I buy a 4 pack of plastic table mats from Kmart for $2 and use them as hive mats, they fit nicely in an 8 frame box with no trimming needed.
Heat goes up. So does the moisture. I am convinced you will see a great difference now. Good luck and God bless. Harold


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I am thinking about building a TBH and was wondering about the pros and cons versus the Langstroth hive. Also why arent the frames rectangular like the Langstroth? does this deter them from attaching the comb to the sides? I was just thinking about making mine with the same frames that i use in my other hives. Problem waiting to happen?
I made one that was basically a long deep hive with just top bars. We got a sudden strong flow and they build a lot of new comb very quickly and filled it very quickly and the weather was very hot. The entire hive collapsed like a row of dominoes. That doesn't mean it couldn't work but I went to a long medium for my top bar hive (accepts standard Langstroth frames) and that was no problem.