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Dietary fiber comes from the thick cell wall of plants. It is an indigestible complex carbohydrate. Fiber is divided into two general categories-water soluble and water insoluble.
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Diverticular Disease
20 grams daily, plus extra fluids
A fiber supplement may improve constipation related to diverticular disease.
In people with diverticular disease, a fiber supplement may improve constipation . The results of double-blind of fiber supplementation for diverticular disease have been mixed. One study1 demonstrated a beneficial effect of fiber supplementation in people who suffered from abdominal pain and pain with bowel movements; whereas a second study2 indicated no improvement in these symptoms following fiber supplementation. Nevertheless, long-term fiber supplementation may protect against the complications of diverticular disease.3
3 Stars
Type 1 Diabetes
30 grams daily
Taking fiber supplements may help to stabilize your blood sugar.
When taken with meals, high-fiber supplements such as guar gum reduced the rise in blood sugar following meals in people with type 1 diabetes.4 , 5 More research is needed to determine if regular use of fiber supplements benefits long-term blood sugar control in type 1 diabetes.
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Type 2 Diabetes
Talk to your doctor
Taking fiber supplements may help to stabilize your blood sugar.
High-fiber supplements, such as psyllium ,6 guar gum (found in cluster beans),7 pectin (from fruit),8 oat bran,9 and glucomannan ,10 , 11 have improved glucose tolerance in some studies. Positive results have also been reported with the consumption of 1 to 3 ounces of powdered fenugreek seeds per day.12 , 13 A review of the research revealed that the extent to which moderate amounts of fiber help people with diabetes in the long term is still unknown, and the lack of many long-term studies has led some researchers to question the importance of fiber in improving diabetes.14 Nonetheless, most doctors advise people with diabetes to eat a diet high in fiber. Focus should be placed on fruits, vegetables, seeds, oats , and whole-grain products.
2 Stars
Adults: 20 grams daily soluable fiber; for young children: 6.5 grams daily soy fiber
While fiber from dietary or herbal sources is often useful for constipation, it may also play a role in alleviating diarrhea.
While fiber from dietary or herbal sources is often useful for constipation, it may also play a role in alleviating diarrhea.15 , 16
2 Stars
5 to 7 grams daily
Several trials have shown that fiber supplementation from a variety of sources accelerated weight loss in people who were following a low-calorie diet.
Fiber supplements are one way to add fiber to a weight-loss diet. Several trials have shown that supplementation with fiber from a variety of sources accelerated weight loss in people who were following a low-calorie diet.17 , 18 , 19 , 20 Other researchers found, however, that fiber supplements had no effect on body weight, even though they resulted in a reduction in food intake.21
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Irritable Bowel Syndrome
Refer to label instructions
Supplementing with fiber may help you find the right balance of regularity without episodes of diarrhea.
Limited research has suggested that fiber might help people with IBS.22 , 23 However, most studies find that IBS sufferers do not benefit by adding wheat bran to their diets,24 , 25 , 26 , 27 and some people feel worse as a result of wheat bran supplementation.28 The lack of positive response to wheat bran may result from a wheat sensitivity,29 which is one of the most common triggers for food sensitivity in people with IBS.30 Rye, brown rice, oatmeal, barley, vegetables, and psyllium husks are good sources of fiber and are less likely to trigger food sensitivities than is wheat bran. Except for psyllium, little is known about the effect of these other fibers in people with IBS.
How It Works
How to Use It
Western diets generally provide approximately 10 grams of fiber per day. People in less-developed countries consume 40 to 60 grams per day. Increasing fiber intake to the amounts found in such diets may be desirable.
Where to Find It
Whole grains are particularly high in insoluble fiber. Oats , barley, beans, fruit (but not fruit juice), psyllium , chia seed, and some vegetables contain significant amounts of both forms of fiber and are the best sources of soluble fiber. The best source of lignan, by far, is flaxseed (not flaxseed oil, regardless of packaging claims to the contrary).
Possible Deficiencies
Most people who consume a typical Western diet are fiber-deficient. Eating white flour, white rice, and fruit juice (as opposed to whole fruit) all contribute to this problem. Many so-called wheat products contain mostly white flour. Read labels and avoid "flour" and "unbleached flour," both of which are simply white flour. Junk food is also fiber-depleted. The diseases listed above are more likely to occur with low-fiber diets.
The benefits of eating whole grains are largely derived from the beneficial constituents present in the outer layers of the grains, which are stripped away in making white flour and white rice. Preliminary research has found that women who ate mostly whole grains had a lower mortality rate than women who ate a comparable amount of refined grains.31
Interactions with Supplements, Foods, & Other Compounds
Fiber reduces the absorption of many minerals. However, high-fiber diets also tend to be high in minerals, so the consumption of a high-fiber diet does not appear to impair mineral status. However, logic suggests that calcium , magnesium and multimineral supplements should not be taken at the same time as a fiber supplement.
Bran, which contains insoluble fiber, reduces the absorption of calcium enough to cause urinary calcium to fall.32 In one study, supplementation with 10 grams of rice bran twice a day reduced the recurrence rate of kidney stones by nearly 90% in recurrent stone formers.33 However, it is not known whether other types of bran would have the same effect. Before supplementing with bran, people should check with a doctor, because some people—even a few with kidney stones—do not absorb enough calcium. For those people, supplementing with bran might deprive them of much-needed calcium.
Interactions with Medicines
Certain medicines interact with this supplement.
Replenish Depleted Nutrients
Reduce Side Effects
Acetaminophen with Codeine
Constipation is a common side effect of codeine. Increasing fluid and fiber intake can ease constipation.34
A common side effect of narcotic analgesics is constipation .35 Increasing dietary fiber (especially vegetables and whole-grain foods) and water intake can ease constipation.
Propoxyphene may cause gastrointestinal (GI) upset. Propoxyphene-containing products may be taken with food to reduce or prevent GI upset.36 A common side effect of narcotic analgesics is constipation .37 Increasing dietary fiber (especially vegetables and whole-grain foods) and water intake can ease constipation.
Constipation is a common side effect of verapamil treatment.38 Increasing fluid and fiber intake can ease constipation.
Support Medicine
Reduces Effectiveness
Soluble fiber is found primarily in fruit, beans, and oats, but it is also available separately as pectin, oat bran, and glucomannan. Two sources of soluble fiber—pectin (found in fruit) and oat bran (a component of oatmeal also available by itself)—have been reported to interact with lovastatin.39 The fiber from these two sources appears to bind the drug in the gastrointestinal tract and reduce absorption of the drug as a consequence. People taking this drug should avoid concentrated intake of soluble fiber, as taking lovastatin with a high soluble-fiber diet leads to reduced drug effectiveness.
Potential Negative Interaction
Explanation Required
Side Effects
Side Effects
The most common adverse effects of dietary fiber are minor gastrointestinal symptoms. There have been several reports of allergic reactions to psyllium. In rare cases, obstruction of the large or small intestine has occurred in people consuming wheat bran or bran cereal.
Beans, a good source of soluble fiber, also contain special sugars that are often poorly digested, leading to gas.
People with scleroderma (systemic sclerosis) should consult a doctor before taking fiber supplements or eating high-fiber diets. Although a gradual introduction of fiber in the diet may improve bowel symptoms in some cases, there have been several reports of people with scleroderma developing severe constipation and even bowel obstruction requiring hospitalization after fiber supplementation.40
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9. Hallfrisch J, Scholfield DJ, Behall KM. Diets containing soluble oat extracts improve glucose and insulin responses of moderately hypercholesterolemic men and women. Am J Clin Nutr 1995;61:379-84.
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'The first day and first night were awesome,' recalls Peter Morley, Mark's younger brother, who was part of the crew. 'We were having the time of our lives and everyone was all smiles. This year, the race felt better. We were going fast and passing boats. It was the second night that things went to hell.'
Several years ago, when a member of Saginaw Bay Yacht Club mentioned he had a 1984 Kiwi-35 for sale, Mark and his brother Peter, along with their cousins John Dent of Ann Arbor, Michigan, and Stan Dent of Midland, Michigan, jumped at the chance to buy it. 'It was a cool boat [and] fast,' says Peter, who lives in Midland. 'It needed some work, but that's what we like to do.' High-tech for its time, the unconventionally designed 35-foot boat's eight-foot-wide hull and fold-up wings meant the crew could sit farther out over the water than on most traditional boats.
But WingNuts needed upgrades to make it competitive. The four co-owners sailed the boat, then tinkered with it for nearly a year: They replaced the original aluminum mast with a carbon version that was 40 percent lighter, extended the boom (the horizontal pole that supports the sail), and added 300 pounds to its original 1,200-pound ballast, according to Meade Gougeon, who runs a marine adhesives and sealants manufacturing business in Bay City, Michigan, and has known the Morleys for three generations.
Although these upgrades are known to increase speed, some sailing experts say adding too much ballast could potentially cause a boat to capsize.
The boat passed the required ORR (Offshore Racing Rule) measurement, in which a computerized wand is used to inspect every part of the hull to determine a boat's handicap. The wand electronically collects data points that are then entered into a 3-D computer model that calculates the boat's weight, size, speed, age and other measurements—including a stability index, a rating for how likely the boat is to tip and right itself again.
US SAILING Offshore Director Dan Nowlan has reviewed Dawn Reiss's article. Here are his comments: 'We'd like to bring readers' attention to an error that was present in the original article on the WingNuts capsize. It reported that WingNuts 'passed' her Offshore Racing Rule (ORR) stability test. This is a misunderstanding of what the ORR certificate communicates. ORR reports the measured Limit of Positive Stability (LPS) and calculated Stability Index
(SI - resistance to capsize). It's up to race organizers to decide whether minimum limits of either LPS or SI are needed for their event. The certificate can be used by the race organizers as a source of data, but does not make a judgment.'
The Morleys had already raced WingNuts in three Macs when, in July of this year, weather reports described ideal conditions for a downward wind—perfect for WingNuts' shape and speed. The eight-person crew would consist of Mark and Peter; Peter's 15-year-old son, Stuart Morley; Peter and Mark's 16-year-old second cousin, Christopher 'C.J.' Cummings of Grandville, Michigan; cousins John and Stan Dent; Chicago architect Lee Purcell; and Suzanne Bickel.
Months earlier, Mark had met Suzanne, a fellow divorcee, at the Bay City Yacht Club in Bay City, Michigan. Ten years her senior, Mark was taken by the independent spirit of this woman who, in 2009, took time off from her job as a pharmaceutical rep to sail across the Atlantic, making port in the Azores, the Canary Islands and Portugal, among other exotic locales. Like Mark, her zest for life guided her toward skiing, sailing and more adventurous activities such as scuba diving, hang-gliding in the Swiss Alps and cliff diving in Greece.
Although he had a reputation as a ladies' man, Mark seemed different around this girlfriend, says his 20-year-old daughter, Sage Morley, who lives in Wicker Park and is a student at the School of the Art Institute of Chicago. 'Suzanne made my dad younger—she kept him in check and they had fun together,' she says. 'They really complemented each other well.' Over their eight-month courtship, Suzanne had told her father, James Makowski, and stepmother, Mary, that Mark was good for her.
Together they sailed, cooked and skied. 'I think they would have gotten married,' says Mark Morley's ex-wife, Kathi Spence. Mark, a trade-show manager and designer with Morley Companies—a business started by his great-great grandfather that specializes in travel, marketing, exhibit displays and customer service centers for Fortune 500 companies—spent less time tinkering with refurbishing projects and became more active. '[Suzanne] seemed so easy-going and game for anything,' Spence says. 'If I had to pick a stepmom for my daughter, she would have been it.'
A fantastic cook, Suzanne upgraded Mark's sailing food of choice, Dinty Moore beef stew, to meals of beef Wellington, lobster and steak with tarragon butter. Although she worked as a pharmaceutical rep for Great Lakes Medical, she'd been making plans to relocate to the U.S. Virgin Islands, where she wanted to start a tourist sailing business serving gourmet food.
Suzanne often sailed on Cheap Thrill, a much older, slower San Juan 30 sailboat. But, according to Saginaw's Dave Scott, who owns Cheap Thrill, when Mark asked her to join WingNuts for the 2011 Mac, Suzanne jumped at the chance. 'She wanted to do the Mac again,' Scott says. 'Getting a chance to sail on WingNuts was like going from driving your grandma's Buick to a Corvette.'
Three nights before the Race to Mackinac, Suzanne went to dinner with her father and stepmother in Saginaw. 'I told her to be careful and that we loved her,' James recalls. 'She said, 'Don't worry, Dad, I'm an old salt.'?'
By all accounts, Suzanne was an excellent sailor, better, many Morley family members say, than Mark with his 44 years of sailing experience, including 20 years racing the Mac. 'She was seasoned; she knew what she was doing. She was never afraid of anything,' her father continues, fighting back tears. 'I never had one disagreement with her and that's the God's truth. That is why it is so hard.'
[Sorry, this content could not be displayed]On the second morning of the race, a Sunday, Mark remarked to the crew that the dawn sky had a reddish cast, a well-known warning to sailors that storms are coming. As day turned to night, the WingNuts crew monitored the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration forecast, as well as their Garmin GPS system and XM radar. Summer storms are fairly common, and the crew had plenty of sailing experience; as the squall line slowly approached, they felt prepared, Peter Morley says.
After 11:50pm EST, Mark advised the crew the storm was coming. The crew dropped WingNuts' sails and, while wearing their life preservers, clipped into safety harnesses that were tethered to the boat. Soon, heavy gusts blew in six- to eight-foot waves with sheets of rain, according to reports from sailors in the race. Mark steered the boat, with Suzanne beside him in the stern. Flashes of lightning lit up the sky like strobe lights. A first blast of high wind, followed by a second, more intense blast, rated at 60 knots or higher, violently tossed the boat from side to side as the crew struggled to hear each other over the roar of the storm.
Then, just east of Fox Island, Michigan, WingNuts suddenly flipped to one side and then righted itself, as it had many times before. But then it tipped back over. This time, the mast dipped deep in the water, flipping and 'turtling' the boat upside down. The bottom of WingNuts floated above water like an island as the crew, tossed overboard into the churning, 66-degree lake, scrambled to cut or unclip the lines that tethered them to the boat.
What happened next is documented in police reports collected the following day, according to Charlevoix, Michigan, sheriff Don Schneider. 'I saw the mast go underwater,' Stuart said in his report, 'and I realized we weren't going to pop back up.'
Cummings, unable to unclip his safety harness, was dragged underwater as waves crested over his head. He gulped mouthfuls of water as the boat rocked back and forth. He clutched the hull as Purcell tried to keep him calm, assuring him that everything would be okay. Eventually, Stuart was able to unclip Cummings from his harness as Purcell climbed on top of the boat. 'I was relieved to know that I was untethered from the boat and wouldn't die,' Cummings 'later recalled.
Before WingNuts rolled over, John, who was resting below in the cabin, had decided to hold his personal flotation device rather than wear it. 'I knew my PFD was the self-inflating kind and I knew I didn't want to have it on if I was under the cockpit,' he said in his police report.
As the boat tipped, John left his PFD behind and, untethered beneath the boat, tried to make his way through floating clothes and other items in the cabin, which was filling with water, using the lights of the cockpit's navigational equipment to guide him. He spotted the lifelines (fencing made of wire or cable that runs along the edge of the deck) and dove under them, through the water, to escape. When he reached the surface, he grabbed hold of the boat as it started to drift, bracing himself against a lifeline.
At the same time, Stan Dent was trapped under the boat. 'Fortunately, the PFD was not a self-inflating type,' he said in his police report. Gulping air while inside a four to 18-inch air pocket created by the upside-down boat's cockpit, Stan tried to swim out from under the boat on the starboard side, where he had been tethered to the jackline. His tether wasn't long enough, however, so he was unable to make it. Stan swam back to the cockpit, where he gulped more air, and realized his tethered safety line had become tangled in the lifeline. Unable to unhook himself, Stan was dragged underwater before he finally was able to cut himself free with the safety knife he carried, and later climbed on the boat.
[Sorry, this content could not be displayed] Meanwhile, John swam over to Peter, who was struggling as he clung to the back of the boat. Peter's PFD had inflated and constricted his arms due to his large frame, which, along with the tether and tightness of the harness, made it difficult for him to keep his head above water.
Too exhausted to climb on top of the boat, Peter clung to WingNuts' stern as John held onto him from the boat. Cummings and Stuart, the first two to climb on top of the boat, activated their emergency locator beacons—the only two beacons on WingNuts¬—to notify the Coast Guard. Joined by Purcell, the trio also made sweeping arcs with flashlights and blew their rescue whistles in hopes that someone would see or hear them through the storm.
Thankfully, somebody did. Bob Arzbaecher, skipper of the Sociable, a Beneteau 40.7 from the Milwaukee Yacht Club, and his crew heard a faint whistle in the distance at around 12:15am, followed by a couple of flashes of light. Realizing it was a distress call, they turned their motor on to power over to WingNuts, about a quarter-mile away, while Sociable crew member Brian Adams radioed the Coast Guard. As they reached WingNuts, Stan shouted, 'Six accounted for, two missing!' referring to Mark and Suzanne. The Sociable team saw five crew members on top of the overturned boat and Peter still in the water clinging to WingNuts' side.
'I moved to survival mode,' Arzbaecher says. 'You stop thinking about racing and start thinking, How do you get six people out of the water?' The Sociable threw out its Lifesling, a yellow harness inflated with compressed gas that has 40 feet of line, and began circling Peter, careful not to approach too close and tangle its own sailboat with WingNuts' submerged rigging lines. On the first attempt, the sling was thrown five feet away from Peter. He attempted to swim to it, but with the Sociable's drift he couldn't reach the sling. The second attempt was successful.
'After all the water he drank, he didn't have any strength,' Arzbaecher says. 'It was a challenge getting him up on the boat.' Once safely on board, he fell to his knees to catch his breath, shaking from the cold. He vomited water and showed signs of hypothermia, Adams says.
The five other accounted-for members of WingNuts were brought in more quickly. Wrapped in blankets, 'they were shivering and somber,' Adams says. 'It was hard to get them to talk about the two who were missing.… Twenty-plus boats from the race began searching the area for people in the water, hoping the other two were alive.' As Cummings explained in his report, 'I think we all kind of knew where my cousin Mark and Suzanne were. We just didn't really process it until we were on the Sociable.'
After they overcame their initial shock, the WingNuts crew managed to tell the Sociable team that Suzanne and Mark likely were still underneath the capsized boat, possibly attached by their tethers. According to a report written by the Sociable crew, one member of their team asked if they should go underneath WingNuts to find them, but the WingNuts crew said the rough water, submerged lines and loose rigging underneath the boat created too much of a risk. The Sociable launched parachute flares and, about 45 minutes after the original Mayday call, a Coast Guard helicopter arrived, with a spotlight, followed by a Coast Guard boat.
'We get comfortable that fire and police respond so quickly when you're on land,' Adams says of the response time. 'It was a real wake-up call, that when you're offshore racing, you have to learn to be more self-sufficient.'
The Sociable continued to circle the area but knew they needed to get the WingNuts crew to shore before they ran out of fuel. At around 2:15am, as the rescuers and Mac crews who had left the race continued to search for the two missing sailors, the Sociable broke away to make the two-and-a-half-hour trip to the Charlevoix Coast Guard station. At 3:33am, sheriff Schneider says he received a call from a 911 dispatch with a request for help from the Coast Guard, and he sent out two search and rescue divers.
At 7:40am, the Coast Guard called James and Mary Makowski. '[They said] there's been a boating accident,' James recounts. 'They've rescued six people and two are missing, and one is your daughter.' The Makowskis immediately began driving three-and-a-half hours north to Charlevoix.
'I always thought there was hope, because there is an air pocket under the boat if it tips over,' James says. He knew his daughter always carried two titanium knives, one she wore on a lanyard around her neck in case she needed to cut through the safety harness. '[When the Coast Guard recovered her body,] the lanyard around her neck was torn, and the knife was gone, so we don't know what happened,' he says.
Around the same time the Coast Guard called the Makowskis, Spence awoke her and Mark's daughter, Sage, who was staying with her in Saginaw for the summer, to tell her that her father and Suzanne were missing. 'We were upset, but we weren't really worried,' Sage says. Instead, she joked about how sunburned her father's balding head would be once he was found. Hours passed. 'My dad had told me so many stories about boats capsizing, and I knew that if anyone knew what to do in that situation, it was my dad and Suzanne,' Sage says. 'It never crossed my mind that this could be dangerous. I literally never thought this could ever happen.'
The Makowskis were almost in Charlevoix when the Coast Guard called again at around 10am and told them to pull over. 'We immediately knew what that meant,' James says. 'They told us she was gone.'
According to a Coast Guard report, divers had discovered Suzanne and Mark's bodies at 8:30am, under the hull. Sheriff Schneider, who is investigating the accident for Michigan state officials, says their deaths were caused by severe blunt-force trauma, likely from the sailboat's boom hitting their heads and knocking them unconscious, causing them to drown. Or, he says, the boom had hit them so hard they were unable to free themselves from being tethered by safety harnesses under the boat and then drowned.
Suzanne had suffered trauma to her forehead, the bridge of her nose and her left eye, the Coast Guard told the Makowskis. (Mark also suffered severe head trauma, according to Schneider.) Sage and her mother eventually heard about Mark's death from Spence's brother, who had been following the ordeal on television news (the Coast Guard hadn't called because they hadn't yet been able to reach Mark's emergency contact, his father).
Ever since the accident, the Midwest sailing community has been speculating about how this tragedy could have happened. WingNuts had passed the ORR tip-over measurement, after all. Gougeon, the Morley family friend who runs the Bay City epoxy business, calls the accident 'a freak of nature.'
'I've done the math based on the [boat's] exposure surface area, and this is just bizarre,' Gougeon says. 'It should have stayed upright or it should have done a complete 360. There must have been just enough wind to [lift] it up there and not enough to get it to roll [back over and right itself].' According to Schneider, the insurance company BoatUS, which insured WingNuts, is investigating the boat's unusual design, the enhancements the Morleys and their cousins made, and other factors that may have contributed to the accident.
Though the Coast Guard originally attributed Mark and Suzanne's deaths to the impact of the boom—Schneider says he found it disconnected from the mast and is unsure why—some people, including Sociable crew members and sheriff Schneider, have speculated that the very tools that were supposed to save Suzanne and Mark's lives—the tethers and PFDs—possibly could have contributed to their drowning.
'That had to be terrifying, to be in pitch dark in winds at hurricane force, to be upside down in the water and tethered in,' Schneider says. 'If the boat capsizes and you have an automatically [inflating] PFD… [there's a risk that] you can't get out and could be trapped under there and drown. Can you imagine the fear going through you if you can't get loose? That's where I've been focusing the investigation, on the type of PFDs and tethering that was used [on WingNuts].' Both PFDs and tethering are standard sailing safety gear, and some form of PFD and tethering is required by the race's Mackinac Safety Regulations.
As a result of the deadly accident, some members of the Midwest sailing community are reassessing safety protocols. Joseph Haas, commodore of the Chicago Yacht Club, which sponsors the race, asked U.S. Sailing to choose an independent review panel, which has been researching the accident for three months. He anticipates the panel will make recommendations on race procedure, which may include notes on equipment and safety, when the results are released at the end of this month.
As for WingNuts' fate, the Coast Guard left the overturned boat adrift and it ended up offshore near Gray's Reef, Michigan, where sailors claimed salvage rights and ransacked it, Schneider says, taking everything from the WingNuts crew's clothes to the new Mercury 9.9 outboard motor. Although the sailboat was eventually recovered and towed to the backyard of the sheriff's office in Charlevoix on July 27, the looting has complicated Schneider's investigation.
Mark Morley and Suzanne Bickel's funerals were held a week apart in late July. Some of Mark's ashes were placed in the family crypt in Saginaw and some were spread over Higgins Lake, in Roscommon, Michigan, where he learned to sail.
Suzanne's were spread near the Bay City Yacht Club, where the two met. 'My dad and Suzanne would have gone sailing every night and day if they could,' Sage says. 'Honestly, if he had chosen a way to go out, he would have chosen this. He would have loved the glory.'
Reprinted courtesy of TimeOut Chicago www.timeoutchicago.com
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Tasha & Comrade Harps conclusion to a lengthy conversation, post Punk Milk exhibition in 2011.
So, who are we?
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step one ... find a random pile of junk that looks awful but has potential to look real cool if you squint hard enough and pour lemon juice in your eyes...
and here is what we do with this garbage ...
..first i took this corset that was really not much of a corset , i mean it had the tie up back but the flesh did not show through and in the front there was an annoying set of bra clasps , about four hundred in total .... it is not sexy when your girl is standing there un tethering herself from four hundred bra clasps .. you want to see her struggle out of something thats tied on like the jaws of life !
so lets cut that thing off and move on
much less retarded!
Now were gonna flip this guy over and .. well your pall error does not use sewing pins she just takes a million sewing needles to hold the fabric in place instead ... and a gorilla paw rapist glove to push that needle trough thick spots of fabric , who needs a thimble ! ... but yea what you wanna do "if you decided to use a cheap corset" is stitch that whole area with the bra clasps down and away ..we do not need these
next ... you should be finished stitching down them bra clasps and bleeding tremendously now you have to start laying down your vader patterns that you gut off that horrendous thing ... the thing intended for who knows what .. it was too awful to wear in its former state... so here you lay it down using the same pin down technique and as you stitch remove the pins
^ that is where i first left off , leaving my pattern pinned onto the corset.
once i finished stitching everything in place this was the finished product
def. a cool idea to make for a wife or a girlfriend ;-> let me know if any of you have questions


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How many of y'all watch Teen Wolf? I don't, but I sure watched the heck out of this week's episode of New Girl. That's because TW's Dylan O'Brien made a guest appearance on Tuesday night's episode—and while I think flashback scenes can be hit or miss, he turned Jess's high school prom night around from the.most.awkward.situation.ever into a super-sweet moment! (I won't spoil it for you, but I'm pretty sure I SOL'ed [squealed out loud] when Dylan started playing this song on guitar.)
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Wednesday, Nov. 13, is the last day to enter The Salt Lake Tribune's annual Jell-O Haiku contest.
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Tiger McKee, director of Shootrite Firearms Academy, began with a mission statement: Create a fighting carbine that is lightweight, simple to operate and based on Stoners original concepts for the AR type rifle. The maxim guiding Tiger: Maximize the effectiveness and potential of the fighting carbine through simplification. The result: The Shootrite Katana.
The Shootrite Katana is a fighting rifle based on Eugene Stoners original concept for the AR type rifle, - reliable, simple to operate, and efficient but updated with contemporary components. Instead of the common trends associated with most ARs - heavy thick barrels surrounded by railed handguards, vertical fore-grips, tactical slings, and folding sights - the Katana is a sleek, practical and efficient carbine designed for fighting. It has everything you need for general application of a carbine without any artificial accoutrements for appearances sake. Like the samurai sword its named after, the Katanas beauty lies in its simplicity.
The Katanas Upper Assembly
The key to reliability, simplicity and lightweight begins with the Katanas upper. The thin 16-inch E.R. Shaw barrel 1/8.5 twist and 5.56 chamber with an A2 flash hider reduces the overall weight of the rifle. When youre breathing hard, moving and negotiating inside tight environments, using cover, and shooting, the Katana feels like an extension of your body, not a heavy bulky weapon youre struggling to operate.
The Katanas handguard, a one-piece carbon-fiber unit with the barrel nut permanently attached to the tube, is lightweight and virtually indestructible. A rail for attaching a flashlight, mounted in the 11 oclock position - for a right-handed shooter for attaching a light. This is the ideal position for the light for maximum penetration of the beam into the environment, and reducing the amount of reflection bouncing back onto you when rolling out from behind cover, shooting over an object, or clearing both right and left hand corners.
The flattop upper receiver of the Katana allows you to mount any type optics, and doesnt have an external forward assist. The original forward assist for the AR is the concave cutout in the exposed section of the bolt carrier. To seat the bolt you simply place a finger in the cutout and press forward. When you get a cartridge that wont seat in a rifle, according to Stoner, and you deliberately drive it in, usually you are buying yourself more trouble. (The Black Rifle, Vol. 3, pg. 129.) This is as true now as it was then.
The Katana comes with fixed front and rear iron sights. The rear sight is removable, with an A1 type drum for windage adjustments; an elevation drum is unnecessary on a fighting rifle. These sights can be your primary system, or serve as a backup system when using an electronic optic. With a red-dot sight mounted at the proper height you are looking over the top of the iron sights. During a fight when your red-dot optic fails theres no time to flip up front and rear sights. The fixed sights are there when you need them. Simply lower your cheekweld to acquire alignment with the iron sights and fight on.
The MPI bolt has the original style solid one-piece firing pin retaining pin, as opposed to split cotter pin used in most rifles, and chrome silicon extractor and ejector springs for longer life and reliable extraction and ejections. Other modifications on the bolt insure proper, reliable feeding and extraction.
To cycle the assembly the Katana comes with Bravo Companys new Gunfighter charging handle. A quality charging handle is a necessity for a fighting rifle. Inexpensive charging handles twist and bend, locking up the bolt carrier and taking your rifle out of the fight. Bravo Companys Gunfighter is a completely new design in charging handles, and provides an efficient way to operate the carbine with consistent reliability.
The Katana's Lower
The lower receiver, Sabre Defence, uses tried and true mil-spec components, including the trigger group. Aftermarket trigger assemblies listed as match, competition or adjustable have no place in a fighting rifle. Under the stress of combat a 3-pound trigger will feel like one ounce. You dont want that in a fighting carbine, or anything that can come out of adjustment or lock up. Standard triggers work well for fighting, are reliable, and have a positive trigger reset, another essential in a fighting rifle.
The Katana is equipped with a DuckBill Tactical Grip originally designed by Tiger - which has a beak that smoothes out the sharp corner between the grip and trigger guard. This grip allows you to handle the rifle one-handed during manipulations without wearing a hole in your middle finger. To fight effectively requires training, to acquire new skills, and practice to learn those skills. So although the Katana is designed for fighting, it's also ideal for the range. You can train for extended periods of time without the fatigue that goes along with a heavy rifle, and the Katana is durable enough to withstand the rigors of training/practice sessions. Simplicity is a key to success when it comes to learning and applying your combative skills.
The Katana comes with an A1 fixed stock, which is 5/8 inch shorter than the A2 and the proper length for most people, with the rear sling located on the left side of the stock, for a right handed shooter. This side sling mount lets the rifle hang flat against your body when slung. You can also choose Magpuls CTR adjustable stock, with a 6-position buffer tube. Your individual application determines which stock is best.
Red Jacket Firearms, operated by Will Hayden, was chosen to build the Katana. Will is somewhat of a mad scientist when it comes to weapons construction, and while Red Jacket is primarily known for their high-end AKs, one of a kind custom work and suppressors, they are also experts when it comes to ARs. Katana owners are getting a custom built rifle, built one at a time - not an assembly line product - by a company known for the quality of their quality work and customer satisfaction.


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May is almost here and that means that IBM IMPACT is right around the corner. Just like years past, IMPACT 2010 will be a great chance to get valuable education and insight into IBM WebSphere software and software from across the IBM software family. If you want to hear how IBM software is leading the march toward a smarter planet, register now.
IMPACT 2010 will be a great chance to hear the WebSphere cloud computing story. There will be multiple sessions on the WebSphere CloudBurst Appliance. These include customer-led sessions, internal adoption stories, overviews, and much more. I'll be there running a hands-on lab and delivering a session that discusses integration between WebSphere CloudBurst and IBM Rational tools. Of course, there is more to WebSphere and cloud computing than WebSphere CloudBurst. We have several other sessions that will detail all of IBM WebSphere's work in the cloud.
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Quick Change Barrel retrofit kit
any one use this kit? i am looking at it hard for a quick swap from my 5.56-m4 to a 6.5g mid length-- any problems with it ???
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Quick Change Barrel retrofit kit
any one use this kit? i am looking at it hard for a quick swap from my 5.56-m4 to a 6.5g mid length-- any problems with it ???
As cool as it seems, I see issues with your optics. Who cares about a quick change assembly when it isn't sighted in when you assemble it? I think you could benefit greatly from having two designated upper assemblies. The ability to utilize multiple upper assemblies on a single lower is the true beauty of the AR platform. Your optics will be dialed for their upper, and they will not change zero upon removal. The real fun part here is the fact that this can be done in the field, with NO tools at all.
You can do what you like, but an entire upper is the route I would take.
I agree with Fritz. Plus at $50 each for the quick change barrel nut you're half way to a regular upper. If you factor in a 2 barrel set up you might as well just buy the second upper.
yea and that is sort of what i was thinking--get another m4 upper from del-ton--and just have a spare upper for the other round--
A barrel install on a regular AR is a ~30 minute job as it is. Neat idea, but it is fixing something that isn't broken IMO.
It also occurs to me if you are wearing out barrels so fast that you need a "quick-change" solution, you probably have a problem that isn't going to be solved by a new barrel either...............
Taken that a push pin and spare upper assembly would be a whole lot quicker than the "quick-change" process anyway................
The only real utility I can see for it is, well frankly, I can't see any real utilty for it. I think that would require a very vivid imagination!


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I don't mean to appear completely backward, but maybe it's unavoidable!?
I've downloaded the backtrack 4 ISO, and Unetbootin.
Extracted the ISO to a USB, no worries.
Directions instruct me to run bootinst.bat, which I can't find on the USB I've created.
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Is there an alternative route to achieve this process, or a place I can find the bat file?
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I'm currently located in Canada, but I am looking to relocate to Ohio by late summer/early fall of next year. I have experience with small dogs (both solo trained for light obedience work and conformation work), and am well-acquainted with larger dogs (grew up with them, but no solo work myself). Over the years my lower spinal discs have deteriorated to a point where independent movement issues (stairs are the equivalent of dipping myself in hot magma) and staying cooped up due to fears of falling have become the norm. To top it off, two years ago I was diagnosed with PTSD, which has made trying to overcome the fears of going outside alone more of a hurdle. As you can imagine, I've grown rather weary of the situation.
After extensive discussion with my doctor, we've determined that a service dog could assist with both mobility issues as well as the psychiatric assistance. After I move I will have the live-in assistance in the form of my supportive wife to assist with the physical aspects of a rather rambunctious new puppy. After some research into the three breeds that were suggested to us by a local PTSD service dog organization (Newfoundland, German Shepherd, Great Dane were given to us as strong success candidates due to both the mobility and psychiatric service needs) we've selected the German Shepherd.
I don't have much experience with this breed in particular, but a friend who has owned one in the past informed me that the breed has a history of being suitable for PTSD work, so I'm hoping we've made the right selection (please correct me if the GSD is unsuitable for this kind of work!). I would like to find the right breeder, but I've run into a few snags. I'm hoping the forum has some knowledgeable members who can lead me in the right direction!
- I've been informed that GSDs have both a very high prey drive and an extremely strong will that makes them difficult to train. Is this true?
- Is the GSD suitable for an owner who only has experience with small dogs?
- Are there any GSD breeders in the southern Ohio area who have dogs that are on the calmer, easier side of temperament? I'm hopefully looking to find a very laid back shepherd with a friendly temperament and am not sure if the GSD is the breed for this.
- I have a preference towards the longer, plush coat German Shepherds and would prefer to find a dog with this coat. The colour doesn't matter. :]
- Most importantly, is this work truly suitable to the GSD? I have seen many PTSD GSD success stories, but I would like to know from owners/breeders if they feel the breed is suitable.
- I am aware of the importance of having hip and elbow tests, but are there any other health tests I should be looking for?
I think that's all the questions for now! Your responses are deeply appreciated. :]
- Ava
I wouldn't limit your search to OH....but look for breeders that are breeding dogs that can do what you need.
Check out Alta-Tollhaus German Shepherd Dogs in MI. There have been a few dogs from there placed as service dogs. I train locally with many dogs from the kennel, they are of good temperament and health.
Yes, I should have clarified, sorry! We are welcome to suggestions that are from neighbouring states. We would prefer not to ship, though, as we would like to see the puppies and meet the breeder in person. So suggestions from Michigan, Kentucky, Illinois, and such that are close to Ohio are more than welcome! :]
I will look into Alta-Tollhaus - thank you for the suggestion!
- Ava
I'm neither a breeder or a trainer ( except for my own pooch ) but as far as your question...
- I've been informed that GSDs have both a very high prey drive and an extremely strong will that makes them difficult to train. Is this true?
If in fact this is true, the offsetting attribute GSDs have is their incredible ability to be trained and learn...so I would say they are not "difficult to train" whatsoever. They are an incredible quick study. This is what my experience has taught me. What I find to be truer and truer with each GSD I have had over the years is the limiting factor in my dog's abilities is not due to the dog but is due to my lack of ability in properly training the dog. The more I have learned has only brought my dog to a higher level, so....as they say, " the ball is in your court".
A GSD would be my last choice as it is also the last choice for a seeing eye dog these days also Labs and Goldens for the most part GSD's make up 15%.
GSD's carry some baggage that you don't need in a service dog, not saying that can't do it.
If you want a dog that "looks" like a GSD without the "baggage" that can come with the real deal consider a Shilo or King Shepherd.
Personally if you can train little dogs, I don't think you'll have any problems with a "real" dog. :)
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There are plenty of people who have GSDs as service dogs. They're very well suited to the task when the right temperament is matched for the job.
Yes, you can find a plush coat but as far as the dog, focus more on temperament. You can let the breeder know your coat preference but a good breed, as the one Jane recommended, is going to focus on temperament above all else. Be open and honest with the breeder you choose as to your experience and needs. Chances are they'll help you either find an adult dog to work with training or they'll have an older puppy they think will work for your needs.
Far as prey drive, each dog is different. My female has zero prey drive. None. My male is about medium. As far as training, again, each dog is different. Most are incredibly easy to train. Just have to find what drives them *food, toys, praise, etc*.
This is a breed that is meant to work. They like to work. They need and enjoy having a job to do.
I just want to add that yes, this breed is very easily trainable, they seem to get things right away. But they do need a good amount of exercise and discipline. They will test you as they grow older. It will be a while before the puppy matures to a stable and calmer temperament. A trainer said to me that a GSD is a very hard dog to have even when you are exerienced with dogs, because they can have issues without a thorough and appropriate socialisation process, and it is time consuming.
All that said, they are very loyal and loving and love to please.
Exercise would not be too much trouble, I don't believe. Where I am moving to has access to two off-leash dog parks, a local all-breed obedience club (despite knowing what to do, I would be attending obedience classes as both a refresher and place to socialize), and it is close to several hiking trails. My wife enjoys hiking and I'm sure would have no trouble taking the pup hiking (if necessary I could even hop in my wheelchair to take the dog along the trails, albeit slowly!).
- Ava
I know someone you should talk to! Her name is Michelle, and she breeds GSDs and trains dogs for service work, and has had clients with PTSD. The icing on the cake, her dogs carry the long coat gene so you have a shot at a long coated puppy! She's in WI, so big terribly far from OH. She's super nice and will be honest with you on whether she thinks you'll be a good fit for one of her dogs.
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Good luck in your search!
First thing most people will tell you is NO dog parks.
but sounds like you are going to be good for the exercise :)
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