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cdrewlow wrote:What about his drafters? We drafters never get any credit.
also, animators are given credit...in the credits...that is what they are there for =)
ochopika wrote:I think the composition is really cool, I like t-shirts with designs that are asymmetrical. It takes some skill make an off-centered composition successfully.
The monochromatic color scheme doesn't look bad, but it might be more eye-catching if the "rainbow" element there was in color.
You could even make it gradually turn colored as it comes out of the guy's hat. That might add some more depth to the design.
Overall I think its pretty sweet.
Thank you very much for the tips
cdrewlow wrote:It's too bad none of these Vikings have magic beards...
oh those beards have magic, they are just so excited about the free rides (vikings are very frugal) that they have no time to gather their beard magic before they are swallowed up! =)
wow, i would have sworn, based on the thumbnail, that this was definitely a walamazan design, which is of course a compliment. this definitely gets my vote. love the colors and execution of this great concept!
Re: "License and Registration"
I should have said this in my original comment but I keep coming back to look at your coloring.
I think this might be your best coloring yet, it is THAT great.It looks SOOOO good! You really really nailed it, plus it's just so funny.
Re: at the washer park!
In the bottom photo... Is that shirt throwing up? LOL
colourcraze wrote:cute! I like the placement, too.
Thank You, I played with the placement for what seemed like an eternity. Getting the right balance was also a task.
collinvh wrote:I dig the scull on her shirt GMV
Yes the Ladies love Skullzees too.
megsck wrote:It was Ub Iwerks, Disney admits it, its not really a mystery. He drew the character and Walt made the personality. He tried cute drawings of several animals before he found mickey based on some other guys drawings of mice, and he pretty much has oswalds body because Walt was probably still a bit miffed about loosing that character to universal. I'm an animator, so i've learned a bunch from school as well as just personal interest, even though im still a bigger warner fan than a disney fan ;) go bugs!
Mickey's design also fell into the style that was being used back in those early days of really simple silhouettes and shapes with very basic musculature, due to the animation process being so new and relatively immature. He's pretty close to Felix the Cat, who debuted a good nine years prior in 1919, as well as Bosko and Bimbo, both of whom were created very shortly after Mickey. What really set him apart from the rest was, as you mentioned, the personality that Walt gave him. Without that to engage the audiences, he could've easily fallen to the wayside along with so many of early animation's characters.
pandase wrote:Now that would be entertaining, but where would be the best place?
(my vote is for the turtle pond :D)
If you take peanuts and throw them, the turtles will eat them! UT is awesome, all the animals come right up to you because they're so used to people. The squirrels and pigeons will just come sit on you and eat your snacks :D.
collinvh wrote:In the bottom photo... Is that shirt throwing up? LOL
rglee129 wrote:Great idea! Funny, funny, funny.
Thanks a lot, Robbie! Seriously.
It kills me that I can't buy this now.
BEST SHIRT EVA!!!!! I want one!
dirtycake wrote:BEST SHIRT EVA!!!!! I want one!
Re: The Nerdiest Place on Earth!
I love the little details in this one, namely that some of the riders are dogs and that one of the passengers has fallen off of the graduated cylinder drop, haha. Really great job
Re: The Red Barron's First Flight
Love this
kaleidoscopicfailure wrote:aaaaalrighty then, tell me why you hate it! no feedback is bad.
I love the idea, but w/o the title you wouldn't know what this shirt is about. Maybe if you back out of one of the images to show a front loaded washer.
BTW, I love the 'picture' on the bottom of the shirt puking bubbles... gave me a good laugh.
Re: It's All Fun and Games Until...
This game suddenly seems so morbid. Seeing your closest buddy deflate..talk about ruining your day...haha
Re: Cycle of Life: A Ride for Water
This shirt is cute AND I'm learning from it. Awesome idea!! GMV.
Re: Fun house reflections
I gotta love the creepiness of that biggest bunny...and yet...I also pity him. So profound Great design!
Re: Really Bad Day – resub
love love love it. and i love corndogs
Re: Delusions of Grandeur
This shirt should be made into an inspirational poster with the caption "What matters most is how you see yourself". BOOM! INSPIRE'D! Haha, but in all seriousness, this is a pretty awesome design. Good work!
Re: Lost in Nightmares
That is one awesomely creepy balloon. I would like it please. That is all
Re: Dunk O' Kitty
I'm surprised that this design isn't doing as well as I thought.
Re: Free Dragon Rides!
Hahaha, I love this. GMV all the way!
Re: Bunnypark
I love the floppiness and motion indicated by the way you drew the bunny. Also, you're super awesome at shading. Good jorb!!
Re: Argyle Coaster - Resub
why does the coaster have to go into my nipples? =P
This is beautiful in a tragic sort of way. I like it.
Re: I Get Around... and Around...
this is very pretty, and elegant
midgerock wrote:I'm surprised that this design isn't doing as well as I thought.
I dunno...it just didn't speak to me. It's done well and all, just not my type of shirt. Not into kittehs.
Re: Wooden Wonder - The Main Attraction
Thanks again novastarj. I also want to thank every woot voter that helped me get me to this point. This is my best entry yet and very exciting for me.
Clearing the fog (wishful pun):
I don't have a big woot following and I don't "get votes from a newsletter, mass emails, fake accounts or shout outs". I was not accused of this nor do I think many good artist on woot use these methods. See GUMIYO thread for quote.
I have a few friends and my family behind me - thanks guys. ANY artist with skills and drive can make it on woot. Thank you everyone and thanks woot.
Now, onto the main attraction.
Creative: The derby topic was released at noon and I was on the phone with my wife... "BIG" she replied.
From there, I got back to my biggest memory from my adolescent amusement park trips. My FIRST big ride. The American Eagle. Six Flags Great America - Gurnee, Illinois.
The shirt image is my memory of looking up at the big drop standing in line. The two inks were selected to represent the final ride.
The American Eagle - WIKI: "127 feet (38 m) tall and reaches speeds of 66 mph (105 km/h). The bottom of the first drop is built 20 feet (6.1 m) below ground level, bringing the height of the first drop to just over 147 feet (45 m). The Eagle debuted in 1981 as the tallest and fastest racing wooden roller coaster in the world, which it still retains today."
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I thought the power button symbol was copyrighted...?
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Joking aside, the only good thing about this design is that it somehow mercifully stopped Ramby from submitting his death/rabbit/penguin shirt design this week. So thank you whoever you are.
Amen to that!!
kaleidoscopicfailure wrote:indubitably!
megsck wrote:also, animators are given credit...in the credits...that is what they are there for =)
Lucky! All I get are my initials next to a revision note.
AdderXYU wrote:And to the other side, one could argue that because Harrison Ford played Han Solo, he owns Han Solo.
There are obvious reasons why you should not work as an artist for a company. You sign away any ideas which may be profitable. But you also go into it saying "hey, I'm making this for Disney," or "I'm making this for Warner Bros" or "I'm making this for Fuzzy Door," and by selling your soul to that company, your work becomes theirs, not yours. It's not "right," but it's how it goes. It's not like there's no credit given for the person who came up with Mickey.
There is also the issue of adaptation. You can't adapt visual to visual without making things dramatically different. You certainly can adapt book-to-film and put your own stamp on it. In the case of Bambi, the story rights were secured at the time of production. In the case of numerous other Disney works, no copyright would have been applicable. Again, is it right for a source to be buried? Does an animation company operate honorably by relegating their animators to brief references? It's a moot point. Just as Frank Lloyd Wright's buildings required actual builders who will never be properly acknowledged, but who signed on to build, not to get credit for the building, so too does every animation studio have grunts who have signed on to be grunts. So too does Nabisco have someone to design their Oreo packages who will never be seen. Art by committee boils down to that. The ethics of that sort of situation can be debated to high heaven, but it doesn't change the fact that Disney, as a company, owns Disney property. Sure, Disney also tries to own Non-Disney property, but that doesn't change the fact that Mickey Mouse is owned by Disney, and therefore, the only person who has a shred of claim to the character besides Disney is the man who created him. Outside of a damn strong parody (in the actual terms of parody, as opposed to "slapping mickey mouse on the death star for some reason"), there is no justification for using a Disney character. You're either stealing from the rightful owners, or you're perpetuating a continued theft against the true creators, depending on how you look at it.
The corporation-as-artist is a completely different argument, and one that doesn't apply to woot directly, since woot always makes their artists clear, and gives a justifiable wage to their artists. Artists don't design for Woot. There's no woot company headquarters where all these artists are sketching and sketching until they hit on a geeky enough or ugly enough tee. They are offering their own work for their own credit, and it remains their work when and if it is rejected for print, and it remains their work even if it is accepted for print, despite woot gaining the print rights. IP boils down to, someone owns each piece of art. It should always start with the creator itself. If that creator sells their creation, whether through a contract that strips them of rights or a flat out sale of rights, it is owned by the new owner of the rights. And so on. And while one can argue that Joe Rightbuyer should have no right to the profit off someone else's art, anyone other than the creator and joe rightbuyer has even less right to it. It's the same way that Ramy, despite mooching his style off a million shoddy otaku worldwide, isn't fair game for someone else to mooch off either, without a legitimate statement being made.
It's a sticky and convoluted world, this whole art game, but there should be no question on the very basics: if it ain't yours to use, don't use it. And that's what's being done here.
So I've been trolling around this site for awhile now and I've certainly read quite a few of the Ramy threads (mostly because I like to watch the drama unfold ;D )and I have to say that these days I'm more inclined to agree with the Ramy nay-sayers. This little experiment was pretty ridiculous and it wasn't even that much of and experiment... in fact I'm not sure it should be called that. So I agree with tgentry... Epic Fail!
Now, Adder you're probably wondering why I replied to you Mostly it's because I'm extremely curious about what you do for a living. I have this weird feeling that you should be an Opinions Columnist... don't know why I'd get that vibe just had this odd thought that you'd be good at it. :D
tenecwhiskey wrote:Love the design but that green shirt is awful.
Yea olive isn't for everyone, I guess. I can see what you mean with the less-saturated colors of my design, maybe a lighter green would work better! I'll do more experimenting with shirt colors next time.
I can see it now. A Funnel Cake Martini - garnished with powdered sugar. That does sound good
ochopika wrote:Yea olive isn't for everyone, I guess. I can see what you mean with the less-saturated colors of my design, maybe a lighter green would work better! I'll do more experimenting with shirt colors next time.
I meant that I'm assuming you meant that the green looks bad with the design, not that you just don't like olive green.
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The chances are high — astronomically high — that the Senate will confirm John Brennan's nomination as the CIA director. But Brennan may face tougher-than-expected questions from the senators on everything from drones to torture to leaks that exposed one of America's only undercover agents in al-Qaida.
As perhaps the President's most important national security aide, Brennan has been a key general in the shadow wars that the U.S. has been fighting around the globe during the first Obama administration. He's also been in a position to disclose secrets surrounding those espionage, sabotage and paramilitary operations. And many of those secrets have in recent months leaked out into the public.
Of particular concern to some intelligence committee senators is a teleconference that Brennan held with TV counterterror pundits on May 7, after the U.S. foiled an attempt by al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula to detonate an underwear bomb. According to Reuters, Brennan said during the call that the attack was never a major threat, because the U.S. had "inside control" over the plot. Commentators took that to mean that the American government had a double agent within the terror group, and talked about a likely U.S. mole on television. That effectively ended what was arguably the most successful human intelligence operation against al-Qaida in 11 years since 9/11. The double agent had to be pulled from the terrorists' ranks.
It wasn't the only leak. White House officials began disclosing details — sometime erroneous details — about the raid on Osama bin Laden's compound just hours after the terror leader's death was confirmed. Over the late spring and early summer of 2012, minutiae about how the White House selects its targets for robotic assassination began appearing in newspapers and books. According to one of those books, Dan Klaidman's Kill or Capture, Brennan was one of three men at the center of that decision-making process, along with Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. "Hoss" Cartwright and the President himself. "The three form[ed] a kind of holy trinity or targeted killings," Klaidman writes.
Then unnamed U.S. officials told The New York Times that the American government was behind the wave of cyber attacks sabotaging the Iranian nuclear effort. Both the President and Brennan publicly railed against the leaks. Senate intelligence committee chair Dianne Feinstein called for hearings into the leak. The Justice Department launched an investigation, which continues to this day.
White House national security spokesman Tommy Vietor says there's no way Brennan could've been behind the disclosures. "Everyone who works with John Brennan knows he is a straight shooter who would never harm national security," Vietor told Politico. "At the White House, John has worked to prevent the publication of information that would harm our national security."
But some senators aren't completely satisfied by the assurances. "The national security leaks during President Obama's first term were worrisome and should be a topic for Mr. Brennan's nomination hearing," emailed Brooke Sammon, the spokesperson for Florida Republican Sen. Marco Rubio, who sits on the intelligence committee.
Sen. John Cornyn, a Texas Republican who is not on that committee, went even further, saying in a statement that "John Brennan has not been absolved of responsibility for the slew of high-level security leaks that have characterized this White House. This investigation needs to be resolved before his nomination can move forward." Other senators are alarmed by things Brennan hasn't said — like Lindsey Graham, who said the White House needs to disclose who excised a reference to al-Qaida from the CIA's talking points on the Benghazi attack before taking up Brennan's nomination.
While some senators are expressing discomfort with the disclosures about America's shadow wars, few have signaled problems with the conduct of those clandestine campaigns. Maine Republican Sen. Susan Collins is the exception: she said in a statement that she intended to query Brennan on "the increasingly paramilitary activities of the spy agency, such as the use of armed drones," which has also concerned former CIA directors.
Most senators on the intelligence panel queried for this piece either did not bring up the drone strikes or the broader counterterror campaign as a factor for Brennan's confirmation. One of the few who has, former chairman Jay Rockefeller, put out a statement praising Brennan for "know[ing] the counter-terror challenges we face, and I look forward to discussing with him the crucial legal, strategic, and oversight considerations pertaining to the CIA's counter-terror operations." Rockefeller, a West Virginia Democrat, did not mention the drones explicitly, and said he had "high expectations for John's leadership" of the CIA.
Some of Rockefeller's fellow Democrats on the intelligence committee weren't so effusive. But their concerns stem less from Brennan's tenure in the White House — and more from his time as chief of staff of the CIA during the first George W. Bush administration. It's during that period that CIA interrogators tortured detainees in a flawed attempt to gain information about al-Qaida.
"I have questions about how he would lead the CIA and what changes he would embrace in light of the committee's problematic findings about the agency's detention and interrogation program," Sen. Mark Udall, a Democrat from Colorado and one of the panel's main civil libertarians, said in a statement emailed to Danger Room. Udall is referring to an extensive and still-classified report into CIA torture, four years in the making, that the committee completed in December. That report may be the biggest stumbling block Brennan faces before the CIA veteran can return to Langley.
"Although I cannot disclose those classified findings," Udall added, "I am troubled by them, and I believe Coloradans would be too."
Udall spokesman Mike Saccone clarifies that Udall isn't opposing Brennan at this point. Like many of his colleagues on the panel, he's reserving judgment until he hears more from Brennan. (Fellow committee civil libertarian Sen. Ron Wyden declined repeated requests to comment for this story.)
Were it not for concerns about torture, Brennan, a longtime CIA veteran, would probably already be CIA director. In 2008, after human-rights advocates focused on comments Brennan made seemingly defending torture, such as a 2007 CBS interview when he claimed the agency's "enhanced procedures…saved lives" and obtained "a lot of information." Brennan, denying he was pro-torture, preemptively informed President-elect Obama that he wouldn't take a senior intelligence position — and, ironically, wound up with a vastly powerful White House job overseeing counterterrorism, intelligence and homeland security that was exempt from congressional oversight.
Now those concerns have returned — centering not just around Brennan's attitudes towards torture, but what he might have done about it. Brennan served as deputy executive director of the CIA and a top lieutenant of Director George Tenet after 9/11, when the CIA established its torture methods. Sen. Feinstein praised Brennan as a "strong and positive director," but pointedly noted that she'll ask Brennan for his response to the "Intelligence Committee's recently completed report on CIA detention and interrogation operations from 2001 to 2009." So did Sen. John McCain, an honorary but non-voting member of the panel and a torture survivor, who questioned Brennan's possible role in torture and his "his public defense of those programs."
The committee report remains classified. But Greg Miller of the Washington Post tweeted that the report finds Brennan was "read into [the] CIA interrogation program," but "wasn't making decisions about it. (nor did he apparently object)." Miller added that the White House "pored" over the report to ensure it didn't implicate Brennan sufficiently to derail his nomination.
Brennan was also involved in another post-9/11 CIA controversy, one that's gotten far less notice. In 2003 and 2004, according to journalist Aram Roston, Brennan passed bogus CIA intelligence to the White House claiming that al-Qaida had secretly embedded information about upcoming attacks into al-Jazeera broadcasts. The false reports allegedly contributed to the Bush administration raising the terror threat level in 2003 and canceling international flights. Former CIA counterterrorism chief Jose Rodriguez told Roston that Brennan was a "major factor" in keeping the "ridiculous" intelligence alive. On the other hand, Vietor denied to Roston that Brennan was central to the incident, and Rodriguez may have an axe to grind with Brennan, since Rodriguez was a major figure in the CIA torture efforts that Obama repudiated.
After leaving government in 2005 to run an intelligence contracting firm, The Analysis Corporation, Brennan indeed made statements defending the agency's torture efforts, though he also criticized the mock drowning known as waterboarding for being "inconsistent with American values." That's part of a pattern throughout Brennan's time out of government: defending the CIA and controversial intelligence practices against their critics. In 2006, National Security Agency director Michael Hayden, the architect of the Bush administration's warrantless surveillance efforts, was nominated to run CIA. Brennan, who said he was "intimately familiar" with the surveillance program, defended Hayden as "dedicated to defending the Constitution" during a Washington Post live chat. At another point in the chat, Brennan threw a jab at the Defense Department's "growing role in intelligence matters," a reflection of Brennan's earlier efforts under Tenet to stave off former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld's bureaucratic push into the intelligence world.
When Tenet released his memoir the following year, former aide Brennan feted him for a book signing at the Analysis Corporation's McLean, Virginia campus. A May 2007 press release cited Brennan celebrating the attendance of over 600 current and former intelligence officials and their families for an event so packed that Tenet signed books "for almost seven hours."
Brennan's time at the Analysis Corporation provided him with a venue to maintaining his ties to the agency. It provided the intelligence community with software designed to ease database searches. Products Brennan inherited, like Fuzzy Finder, were "designed to match inconsistent, incomplete, or erroneous alphanumeric data," according to company literature; similar legacy software, like "Arabic Name Search" and "Russian Name Search" were data-mining tools for counterterrorism analysts. Announcing a 2006 corporate partnership with the software firm Infoglide, Brennan beamed that the combined software packages would provide a "powerful analytic solution to complex challenges." After it was learned that the 2009 would-be Christmas bomber Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab slipped through a vast analytic dragnet, in part because keyword searches at the National Counterterrorism Center couldn't properly account for different English transliterations of Abdulmutallab's name, Brennan had to get a special White House waiver to lead an investigation into government watchlists, since some involved his former company's software.
Nearly every Senate aide interviewed for this piece said their bosses were reserving judgment on Brennan, even those who expected his confirmation hearing to turn significantly on the question of torture. There may be another irony around that. Feinstein isn't immediately declassifying the Senate report; she's sending it to the executive branch for prior review before the panel considers declassification. That gives the Obama administration an interest in withholding a supposedly damning report that could embarrass its pick for CIA director. Even if Brennan didn't aid torture, his nomination could inadvertently keep his agency's legacy of torture in the shadows — next to its drone fleet.Go Back to Top. Skip To: Start of Article.

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If you're like most businesses, you're probably looking for ways to cut costs wherever you can. Whether it's waiting to refresh hardware, reducing workforces, or changing your IT workflow, businesses are feeling the effects of our current economic climate in the way they operate.
Citing a recent webinar by Gartner analyst Kurt Potter, Shane Schick of ITWorld Canada notes that companies should exercise caution before making drastic changes in an effort to cut costs, especially in their IT environments. Some cost-cutting measures can actually harm a business when it comes to the delivery of their products or services. Potter states, "You need to build competencies and discipline around cost optimization."
One vital aspect of any business is the protection and storage of critical customer and business data. So how do you protect what's most important with reduced resources? Schick says that being willing to embrace emerging technologies is one way to effectively reduce cost and increase productivity.
Instead of backing up your business information with traditional on-site storage, which many times requires expensive hardware, setup fees and constant monitoring, you could use Mozy's online backup solution. Not only will this save you money on power, infrastructure, and physical space, but it will also save you time and resources, which is priceless for any business.
The great part about Mozy is, you still get the highest in security standards. With files transferred and stored in encrypted states, you will never have to worry about the integrity or security of your data. Even if you move offices or lose systems to theft, viruses, hard drive crash, or natural disaster, your critical information is securely stored and accessible when you need it.


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a very well constructed double jet lighter. easy to fill/adjust/operate. Plug cutter attachment sharp and works well.
The vintage assortment is presented in a nice gift package although some of the vintage blends are better than the others.
A buddy introduce me to cigars by giving me a RP Olde World Reserve. I was hooked. I bought these in 2012 along with my first humidor. Not knowing much about cigars I thought a sampler of Patels would all be great. Since then I found I love Rocky's OWR and all the Edge series. In this sampler I thought a couple these were ok. The Cuban blend was decent but that's about it. Good for new smokers to try different cigars.
I like Rocky Patel's cigars for the most part. This sampler is so-so (haven't gotten this particular sampler but have smoked the cigars included) compared to Rocky's "main line cigars, i.e. the 90, 92, 99, Decade Edge, Lite etc. Price point is a redeeming factor tho although there are better samplers here if you get them priced low enough. I always have Decades. 90's and Edge Lites in my humi.
I've had this for about two weeks and it gives sporadic performance. The flame doesn't stay lit consistently and the thumb strike heats up. I plan on replacing with a Colbri or the like.
I am a fan of RP's. From what I have read most people either love or hate em. If you like Rockys then this lets you taste his some from his large selection
Nice lighter. When you get older angled "On" switches get to be a problem but in this lighter you don't have to press it hard to activate. BUT I found out to my surprise that Rocky Patel does NOT have replacement parts! The screw in flat blade screwdriver to adjust the flame went missing. I thought I would just get a replacement from RP but no go... disapponting for a light at this price.
This lighter is a monster, and I mean that in the best way possible. When you can light a 60 ring gauge in literally seconds you will immediately appreciate how awesome this lighter is. My local lounges can barely keep this lighter as a house lighter because it is so frequently stolen, so do yourself a favor and guard yours carefully.
I have had this lighter for a little over 2 years, replaced it twice on the lifetime warranty, this can be avoided by always bleeding the tank before refilling and by avoiding dropping ash into the heads of the lighter. This is the only lighter I have at home, I carry about 5 though in my truck, mixture of smaller Rocky, Xikar and Blazer lighters. This is all you need at home.
I took these as a special offered...figured, "why not?"...they were absolutely enjoyable. Actually much better than the crappy RP Edge Torpedos I bought. I would recommend this little sampler.


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-- No. 1 Connecticut defeated second-ranked Duke 83-61 on Tuesday night behind 21 points and a career-high seven 3-pointers from Kaleena Mosqueda-Lewis in her first game back from an injury.
Breanna Stewart had 24 points and 11 rebounds for the Huskies (11-0), and Stefanie Dolson had 14 points and Bria Hartley finished with 13.
UConn shot 49 percent, held the Blue Devils without a field goal for a critical 8 1/2-minute stretch while pushing its lead well into the 20s and turned the 52nd meeting of Nos. 1 and 2 into the latest blowout in this series.
"I think I would be less than honest if I said I thought we could come in here and win by 20," said coach Geno Auriemma, who earned his 850th career win. "Simply because we haven't played in (12 days). We weren't sure what we were going to get from (Mosqueda-Lewis and Morgan Tuck). And I thought Duke being at home and they've got a bunch of upperclassmen ... it would be a little bit different."
It wasn't.
UConn won its seventh straight in the series -- and the previous six were decided by an average of nearly 30 points.
Chelsea Gray
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"We didn't do what we needed to do defensively," coach
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The Huskies, the only visitors to beat Duke on its home floor since 2008, now have done it three times since anybody else has found a way to do it once.
They also spoiled the Blue Devils' undefeated start with a rout for the third time in four seasons.
Stewart did much of the early damage in her first appearance in front of the Cameron Crazies -- or at least what was left of them, with the Duke students on winter break. She was four points shy of the career high she matched last month against Oregon.
And every time Duke threatened to make a run, the Huskies found a way to get Mosqueda-Lewis a clean look from behind the 3-point line. She was especially accurate from the corners while showing no signs of rust after missing eight games with a nerve contusion on her right elbow.
"I don't think we would have won the game the way we won it without her," Auriemma said.
The Blue Devils, who spent the second half trying to claw their way back into the game, pulled to 65-52 on
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After a timeout, UConn worked the ball around the perimeter to Mosqueda-Lewis, who swished her fifth 3 to restore the Huskies' 18-point lead and help them pull away for their 17th straight win.
"That's something that coach has been telling me since last year -- that I need to shoot every shot like it's the last shot, and shoot every shot like it's an important shot," Mosqueda-Lewis said.
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each finished with 10 points for Duke, which earned just five free throws and was 4 of 18 from 3-point range.
"Horrible shot selection," McCallie said. "Chucking up shots."
The Blue Devils were denied their first win over a No. 1 team since 2007 -- and were in serious danger of being run right off its home floor in the first half.
Stewart scored 15 points in the half, and 12 of those came during the 13-minute span in which the Huskies outscored Duke 35-11 and turned a one-point deficit into a 38-15 lead.
"You can't necessarily win a game in five minutes, but you can lose a game in five minutes if you don't do certain things, and then your body language and the way you react in those five minutes," Auriemma said. "If we score enough points during those six minutes and you don't, it's going to be hard to catch up."
For the Blue Devils, this one couldn't have started much worse. They missed 12 consecutive shots during that drought before things finally started to click late in the half behind Gray.
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Robinson, a 1968 graduate of Wayne Law who served as the Law School's seventh dean, died in 2010 at age 66. During his acclaimed legal life, Robinson also served as chairman of the Litigation Department at Honigman Miller and as assistant attorney general for the Criminal Division of the U.S. Department of Justice.
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|December 27th, 2012, 01:05 PM
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Gun safes
It's about time I look into a real gun case instead of a display case I have. I have 5 long guns I would like locked away. I don't think my collection will ever be more than 5 or 6 guns. I'm not familiar with any safe manufacturers. I am looking for something to keep kids out, maybe anchor to a cement wall in my basement and prevent someone from stealing guns if they ever broke into my house. I don't think fire rated is important to me.
It seems to me a safe that only holds 5 or 6 guns is easy to walk away with so I think I really need some sort of way to anchor it.
Are there any good plans for a DIY safe?
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I have one of the steel safes like you will see at Dunham's, Bass Pro, etc. It's a stamped steel safe that can anchor to a wall. It will keep the honest thief/kids out but I'm sure a pro could get in it. Plus, they are not fire safe.
One thing I quickly found out is that the base/floor of the safe fills up quickly. When the safe is empty, it looks like you can store 6-8 guns in it. However, as each one leans into its cradle, the stocks start to run into each other as they are stacked both in the back and on the side. Plus, if you want to hang a hunting vest in there that has shells in it, it takes up more space than you would suspect. Moral of the story....... get a safe that is deep.
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I have an Stack-on 8 gun locker. It came with lag bolts to anchor it to the wall. There is a small shelf in there but like whiterhino said, it gets tight rather quick. I would look at getting a 15+ gun safe with a couple shelves for ammo and pistols.
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Count how many long guns and pistols you have. Then double that number and go buy a safe that holds more than that number. Safes are like pole barns in the fact that most people run out of room in the first couple years of getting it. Also, look at things like mentioned above, ability to anchor to floor, fire ratings, quality of materials used, steel gauge, ability to configure and reconfigure interior, interior lighting if any. Champion and Liberty both come to mind to look at. Also, the below are good considerations brought up.
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I use several of the Stack-On types (can't get a 500 lb safe into my basement) lag-bolted to something immobile for long guns and a mechanics tool chest for handguns and ammo.
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Yeah I am beginning to see they are categorized as safes and as cabinets. I am leaning towards a higher end cabinet. Someone trying to steal my guns wouldn't have time to sit there and break into a cabinet.
It seems most offer some sort of anchoring which I want.
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Safes are over rated. With that said I used to have a couple liberty's. But I got to the point I had to many guns. So I did what any man would do i built a room in my basement. With steel door
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unscoped single shots
Gun safes are rated for unscoped single shot guns, if you put any thing with a scope or stacked barrell it places the butt of the gun out and then a 12 gun becomes an 8, double your current need minimum.
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This is about the best DIY that I've seen http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_16/542246_Job_Boxes_for_ammo_storage.html. Biggest issue is 1) you have no clue how long it's going to last in a fire and 2) it's easy to drill out the locks. Supposedly the GreenLee job boxes make access to the lock more difficult.
Honestly, after all the research I've done, I'll bet this thing protects your stuff from theft just as much as an actual RSC...there was a news article a few months ago where a coin dealer was robbed. All of his coins were in a gun safe (looked like liberty) and the thief just hacked the side panel with a fire axe to get at the collection. Unless you spend good money on a real safe with Tl-15/30 ratings, you're not going to avoid that...
IMO, as already posted the best safe is the one they can't find...here's another thread from on here:http://www.greatlakes4x4.com/showthr...light=gun+safe
And here's some good info I found on ratings shortly after that post:
"Safe Ratings
Burglary Ratings
* B1 — Theft resistant (minimum security)
* B2 — Underwriters' Laboratories Residential Security Container label
* B3 — Non-rated anti-theft (incorporates features of high security safes
without a UL rating)
* B4 — Underwriters' Laboratories TL-15 label
* B5 — Underwriters' Laboratories TL-30 label
* B6 — Underwriters' Laboratories TL-30X6 or TRTL-30 label
Fire Ratings
* FR — Fire resistant unrated insulated safe
* 1/2 hr — UL class 350. Protects valuables for up to 30 minutes with outside temperature of 1550 degrees.
* 1 hr — UL class 350. Protects valuables for up to 1 hour with outside temperature of 1700 degrees.
* 1 hr+ — UL class 350. Protects valuables for up to 1 hour with an outside temperature of 1700 degrees, plus survived drop test from 30 feet.
* 2 hr — UL class 350. Protects valuables for up to 2 hours with an outside temperature of 1850 degrees.
* 2 hr+ — UL class 350. Protects valuables for up to 2 hours with outside temperature of 1850 degrees, plus survived drop test onto rubble from 30 feet
UL Underwriters' Laboratories (UL) - UL is a non-profit, non-bias agency that tests and rates the safety and performance of consumer products. Safes that have earned specific UL ratings will carry a UL label which designates the product's security and fire-protection ratings.
* Net Working Time - This is the UL term for testing time which is spent trying to break into a safe using tools such as diamond grinding wheels, high-speed drills with pressure applying devices, or common hand tools such as hammers, chisels, saws, and carbide-tip drills. If a safe has been rated with a 30-minute net working time, (TL30), the rating certifies that the safe successfully withstood a full 30 minutes of attack time with a range of tools.
* Theft resistant - This rating means the safe provides a combination lock and minimal theft protection.
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* TL-30 rating - A product carrying the TL-30 security label has been tested for a net working time of 30 minutes with the same types of tools mentioned above.
* TL-30 x 6 - The TL-30 (30-minute) test is conducted on all six (6) sides of the safe.
* TRTL-30 - The TRTL rating designates a safe which successfully resisted 30 minutes of net working time with a torch and a range of tools which might include high speed drills and saws with carbide bits, pry bars, and other impact devices.
Fire Ratings
* Impact test - The UL impact test calls for the safe to be heated to 1550 degrees for 30 minutes (1638 degrees for a 2-hour fire rated safe) then dropped onto concrete rubble from a height of 30 feet. The safe is then turned upside down and reheated for another 30 minutes (45 minutes for a 2-hour fire rated safe). During this process, it must maintain its integrity and protect all contents in order to pass the UL impact test.
* Explosion hazard test - All UL fire-rated safes must undergo this test, during which the unit is inserted into a pre-heated 2000 degree oven. If the safe is not constructed properly, the rapid heating will likely cause an explosion.
* FR - Fire resistant, unrated insulated safe - This product is awaiting UL approval.
* Class 350 1/2-hour fire rating - During this test, the safe is heated for one-half hour to reach an exterior temperature of 1550 degrees. Because paper will begin to char at approximately 400 degrees, the unit being tested must maintain an interior temperature of less than 350 degrees during heat-up and cool-down testing in order to earn its rating.
* Class 350 1-hour fire rating - To earn this rating, the safe is heated for one hour to reach an exterior temperature of 1550 degrees, then put through the cool-down test. During this time the safe must maintain an interior temperature of less than 350 degrees.
* Cool-down test - This procedure is a key part of UL's fire testing procedures. After a one- or two-hour fire rating test, the safe is left in the oven for cool-down time with the heat turned off. Because of the intensive heat of one- and two-hour tests, the temperature inside the safe will continue to rise for up to one hour after the oven is turned off. To pass UL testing, the safe's interior temperature may not exceed 350 degrees at any time during heat-up or cool-down procedures.
* Class 350 1-hour fire & impact label - The safe has passed both UL impact testing and Class 350 1-hour fire testing (see above).
* Class 350 2-hour fire rating - The safe is heated for two hours to reach an exterior temperature of 1550 degrees and must maintain an interior temperature of less than 350 degrees to earn this rating. Class 350 2-hour rating and impact label - The safe has passed both UL impact testing and Class 350 2-hour fire testing (see above).
1. Test attack against the door and front face:
1. Tool-Resistant Safe - Class TL-15
2. Tool-Resistant Safe - Deposit Safe
3. Tool-Resistant Safe - Class TL-30
4. Torch- and Tool-Resistant Safe - Class TRTL-30
2. Test attack against the door and body:
1. Tool-Resistant Safe - Class TL-15X6
2. Tool-Resistant Safe - Class TL-30X6
3. Torch- and Tool-Resistant Safe - Class TRTL-15X6
4. Torch- and Tool-Resistant Safe - Class TRTL-30X6
5. Torch- and Tool-Resistant Safe - Class TRTL-60X6
6. Torch-, Explosive-, and Tool-Resistant Safe - Class TXTL-60X6
There was an news article recently in CoinWorld about a burglary and how a collector/dealer's safe was "smashed". The manufacturer of the safe was listed and I was not at all surprised that the thieves demolished the safe. The manufacturer given is a major supplier of gun safes, not security safes.
Gun safes are usually made with a body of SHEET metal (steel), 12 gauge, 14 gauge, etc. and a steel plate (usually 1/4 in or less) for the door. Security safes employ steel PLATE, ¼", ½", 1" or greater and often have additional composite material to provide defense against various attacks (drill, torch, peel, etc). Security safes are rated on a letter scale, B, C, D, ... with B being a general catch all for 1/4" body and 1/2" steel door. There is also an Underwriter's Laboratory rating (UL) such ad TL-15, TL30, and so on. The "15", "30" , etc. on are measures of a the MINIMUM time it takes a professional to break in, the UL personnel that conduct the tests are pros.
Gun safes usually look pretty and have lots of thick locking bolts that give a false sense of security. Steel sheet metal is easy to break into, the local kid with an axe, crowbar and other tools can get in in no time. That thick fire resistant material between the sheet metal is just that, thick material to provide fire protection, NOT buglary protection.
One half inch or more of hardened steel with a drill resistance hardplate protecting the lock, glass or other relocking devices, drill resistant pellets and fibers between the lawyers of PLATE, and so on will discourage all but the most professional burglars. Time is the key to a good safe, not lots of locking bars.
The best jewelry safes may have a industrial diamond impregnated hardplate, slabs of copper to thwart torch attacks, multiple randomly placed relockers, and even layers (safe within a safe).
I would never store coins in a gunsafe and never buy one of those nice looking safes for sale at coin shows, A fairly "safe" safe is going to cost about $1000 for a good TL-15 safe (500 lbs or more).
Safest place for coins – a safe deposit box in one of those 50 year old bank vault safes that were build to withstand a nuclear attack."
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Discussion in 'Football, Baseball, and Hockey' started by Ozarkruffrider, Aug 22, 2007.
I'm game.
I'm in, just let us know.........
Thanx guys for sticking with it. A long season can diminish the fun, but it's great to see all the different groups playing.
Steelers@Rams12-22 : SaturdayCowboys@Panthers12-23 : SundayPackers@Bears Texans@Colts Chiefs@Lions Dolphins@Patriots Giants@Bills Raiders@Jaguars Eagles@Saints Redskins@Vikings Ravens@Seahawks Jets@Titans Buccaneers@49ers Falcons@Cardinals Browns@Bengals 12-24 : Monday Broncos@Chargers I'm pretty sure my picks are in green lay into it
My picks are exactly like yours, except I've got GB. Favre will probably play just the first half and I'm thinking that may be enough to take care of the Bears. I'm still a little iffy on the Lions DOH!
Thanks for inviting us. I've had fun
Bears often own Pack. Like Wash and Dallas. Record doesn't matter. You'll find to do good at this you need to pick a couple of upsets a week.
I have the same picks as you. I will be picking against the Lions though. Season only gets uglier as the lockerroom becomes splintered with disappointment, and one big rock in everybody's way..........
And it's in Chicago...you have a point.
Same as Thee except I have GB over Bears and the Giants over the Bills on the road (weather permitting - the worse the weather, the more I like the Bills. I might change this one before Sunday).
Even though the Saints still have an outside shot at a wild card, I'm having second thots about them against the Eagles. The Saints have been inconsistent, the Eagles have a winning road record & the Saints have a losing home record. I'm doubting Bush will play since Stecker has had a couple decent weeks filling in. I doubt Brees will put up the numbers against the Eagles that he did against AZ. Any thots?
More controversy this week with McNabb. He was quoted by Pam Oliver as saying that he's leaving Philly and will be on a winner next year (or something like that). When confronted, he denied the story. McNabb is ending a good career with the Eagles. I don't think he'll be back. Many may not want him back. I say he goes out with a whimper........
All right, last week of season we all chose the same teams. we all fall together
TFD: there's two weeks left...I had forgotten about the bye week myself. Since these were the only games brought up for scrutiny, what is the final concensus on: Packers @ Bears Chiefs @ Lions Giants @ Bills Eagles @ Saints
My 2 cents are Packers, Lions, Giants, Saints, but I'm cool with whatever the group decides.
I concur. After reading GB wants the #1 seed & homefield, I have to go with Favre playing more than just a half...I'm good with the Pack. After much contemplation...I'm okay with the Lions. Unless Buffalo gets two feet of snow tonight (not gonna happen, they're predicting a hi of 56 degrees and sprinkles for tomorrow)...Giants. The Saints better play if they want to even have shot at the WC...Saints.
I saw this thread after picking my teams. Who do you want me picking tomorrow? Let me know and I'll change my picks.
Read from TFD's first thread post on 12-19 and feel free to throw in your two cents.
Well, we're 2-0 so far, let's go for a perfect week!
Ok, I change my mind. I'm going with the Bills. :nerd2: Giants are down 14-0 after 2 possessions.
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DON'T treat it like a crush on someone your own age. It's okay to think that a teacher or another adult is the coolest person ever. But there are some things that you might do with a crush on a peer -- such as passing notes, gossiping, or admitting your feelings -- which you probably shouldn't do with an adult crush. In order for kids and adults to work well together, there must be clear lines of behavior between them, and crossing these lines can make things awkward and difficult.
DON'T think about plans for the future. Just like with celebrity crushes, you shouldn't make the mistake of letting yourself get too caught up in a crush on a teacher or other adult. If you find yourself hoping that your family moves next door to your adult crush, or you start counting the years until you're old enough to say something about your feelings, this is a sign that you may be taking your crush way too seriously.
Jessica, 10, had a wicked crush on her art teacher Mr. Maika for months. Right before holiday break, she made cookies for all her teachers and friends. She couldn't wait to give the cookies to Mr. Maika, but when she went to do it, she saw a whole pile of other gifts from other students. Meanwhile, her friend David made a point of thanking her for his cookies, and even gave her a gift in return. The whole thing helped Jessica realize that she meant a lot more to her friends - and David, who might be a possible crush - than to Mr. Maika.


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|Welcome, glad to hear you have chosen to be a person owned by a GSD! This is an amazing site to pick up info on just about anything GSD. hope you will post some picks when you get your new pup!!!! Bob
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You may want to get water at the breeders house because changing water can sometimes cause upset stomachs. Distilled water is good.
I already have towels and a crate set up at home but I was trying to figure out the best crating method for the ride home because his permanent kennel at the house is too big for my car. When we brought my last puppy home she fit into a cat carrier and something tells me that will not work for this one! Haha! I had heard of people using a shallow laundry basket with towels but that seems more fitting for a short ride.
It's a little more than 6 and a half hours but we're going straight through. I have heard different opinions as to potty breaks but I'm not sure which is best. Some recommend stopping but only where dogs aren't usually let out such as rest stops, to avoid bacteria. But some say not to stop at all.
Thank you for the input! It's very appreciated. I will have to remember to ask her for a "travel towel" with everybody's smell on it. I have a clock but I have also heard good things about the puppy heartbeat warming stuffed animals that go in their kennel. So many things to get and do! I'm so ready for puppy life!
|You need to bring a crate, extra water and a bowl. A blanket and a ticking alarm clock or a ticking clock. Needs to be ticking so it reminds them of their litter mate's hearts beating. I hope you are not going alone. Bringing someone with you would be a great thing. I am sure you have thought of a collar and a lease or maybe a harness. PAPER TOWELS. You may want to get water at the breeders house because changing water can sometimes cause upset stomachs. Distilled water is good. I am sure you would drive straight through but if something happens you may want to make a list of pet friendly motels on your route home. Do not feed him unless you bring a lot of paper towels. That is so far to pick up a puppy. Get the breeder to give you something that the puppies played with or ask her to stick a towel or something in with the puppies the night before so he will have a scent to travel with that is familiar and a lot less frightening. You are embarking on a life time adventure that will change your life for the better. Best wishes
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Hey im also from atlanta and there are some breeders here . If you interested let me know so you dont have to drive 7 hours !!
What type of puppies are you looking for and budget ?
Hello from Atlanta!
Hey everybody! I just thought I would go ahead and introduce myself. My name is Sarah and I'm a college student in GA. I'm 3 weeks out from picking up my first GSD and I am so excited. There are three dark sable boys I can pick from but it's so hard to choose! I think I uploaded a picture or two but I'm not sure! lol I haven't raised a puppy since we got my 14 year old cocker spaniel so this is going to be a crazy adventure for me!
I decided on the breed because of how loyal they are and I fell in love with one that belongs to a friend of mine. I have spent the last 6 months researching and preparing for a high drive puppy but I still feel like I am SO unprepared! I've spent about a month checking out just about every board and post here in the forums just to be prepared for what I'm about to get myself in to. I've heard great things about how they are incredibly adaptive especially for a large breed which I'm hoping will work great for an apartment. He will have a medium sized mutt and a 8 month old cat to help shape him and hopefully be good influences.
I had been making a list of puppy names since I decided to commit to the addition but because of a recent loss of a family member, the list went out the window and he will be named in her honor. His name will be August!
Based on recommendations I've seen, I have already scheduled all my vet visits as well as obedience puppy classes and have checked out the agility scene in my area.
I just wanted to go ahead and introduce myself and make a few friends and connections so I'm prepared for the little tornado that's about to be in my life!
Also, if you have advice on traveling 7 hours home with a new puppy, that would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks, sarah!
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As long as the herbal medicine used in a complimentary way, it is ok.
As solo for treating cancer, at this point in time, the answer is no.
The reason is simple, herbal formula commonly use more than 10 herbs or more,it is very difficult to isolate the ACTIVE ingredient or even the active compound to provide proof of benefit even from one herb, not to mention 10 or more herbs. BTW, this is not my own understanding but similar assessment had been voice out by a friend of mine who was the Dean of Chinese herbal medicine at the Chinese university in Hong Kong not long ago. He is now the dept. head of pharmacognosy (study of natural plants ) in the States.
In addition, it is difficult to obtain the real herbal plants for use.
God bless.
may be a bit controversial: herbalists have long found out that very often the whole plant/herb gets a better result than the use of only the extracted active ingredient(s). So far there has not yet been an explanation for this mechanism.
I can only mention my own experiences in treatment of animals (and myself). Of course there is a difference in the treatment of animals and humans but since a lot of tests are still done with different species of mammals very often the results can be transferred to a certain point.
With a combination of three different plants (1 chinese root, 1 south american root, seeds from 1 common european plant) angionesis inhibiting effect could be reached in a pony with a soft tissue tumor. The tumor (which was growing fast before treatment) has been dormant now for more than 5 years. I did not mention the names of the plants/herbs because scientists have found out that one of them does work completely different in other types of cancer such as osteblastic lesions which are triggered in growth whereas the anti-angionetic effects seem to be limited to soft tissue tumors.
My own (very small) tumor (which is not a CC) has been kept at bay with the same combination for 17 years without any other treatment and has since shown no signs of change. This might be coincidence or sheer luck of course.
So what I am trying to say is that each individual is different. In many cases the use of herbal medicine in combination with chemotherapy might be the best approach, but I do believe that in some cases the results of herbal medicine (if not only extracted active ingredients are used) can be very good.
Problem is that so many doctors just don't know much about herbal medicine, they are not even able to advise you that certain spices should be avoided when taking painkillers which thin the blood.
Hi, Susanne,
I am glad that you like to use Chinese herbal medicine ; the following link may help you if you are interesting to use herbal medicine for CCA.
http://www.cholangiocarcinoma.org/punbb … 200#p44200
Also, due to the research and development of new method to deliver the most common Chinese Herbal medicine in the last 10 years , manufacturer most of them using western methods transform most herbal roots and plants,seeds and leaf into medicine granules formulation and dispense as such in most Hong Kong hospitals and pharmacy that prescribe Chinese Herbal medicine, the reason is simple to use, standardization and quality control. And that will be the trend for the future.
Here is the link below
http://www.cholangiocarcinoma.org/punbb … 172#p64172
God bless.
Thanks, Percy.
thank you, Percy, interesting links!
Problem is - as you mentioned in one of your postings - very often that one needs to make sure that the quality of the drugs is good and that they are not contaminated.
Many herbs (not only Chinese ones are powerful) can be grown in the garden or the vegetable plot (having my problems to grow them to maintain our supply on an island in the North of Scotland though).
Unfortunately CC is such an aggressive cancer that time dictates to buy the supplies.
I usually try to get the things I can't grow via Germany where the pharmacists are controlled by laws and have to make sure the herbs supplied do meet certain standards. For some a doctor's prescription is needed.
But this way I can avoid the risk of getting herbs of doubtful origin.
I think we may have a misunderstanding between herbs and " Chinese herbal medicine" practice or the Eastern style of herbal medicine practice in the Far East including Japan' Kampo practice ,South Korea,Taiwan and down to Singapore. "Chinese Herbal Medicine " is a generic name refers to the practice itself. The herbal medicines usually contain barks of plants,stones of different metals ,skins and body parts of animals,leaf and seeds,fruits depending on different regions ,climate and time of harvest.
I can only say one thing, lisence or law will not ensure you will get the real thing from some Far East suppliers, there are a lot of look a likes out there.But if you can grow them,then it is a different story.
God bless.
Hi Percy,
not necessarily a misunderstanding. I know what you mean and I know that the Chinese approach is different to the one herbalists/phytotherapists chose.
It's far more complex.
They do have something in common which is the holistic understanding (hope this is the right word, might sometimes have problems since I am German and English is not my first language).
Anyway because the Chinese herbal medicine is far too complex and one might need some experienced person to guide you I have chosen the other approach many decades ago and decided to study phytotherapy with a focus on traditional herbs (was surprised that many plants considered to be weeds are so useful).
Licence or law is no guarantee that you get the proper stuff but it is somewhat reassuring that there are some regulations and tests (of course there will always be black sheep) what I meant was this http://www.edqm.eu/en/european-pharmaco … nd-50.html
The theory and principle of using traditional Chinese medicine (TCM) practitioner to treat patient is the balance of (Yin and yen) or ( cold and hot ) of the entire body . And that is why Chinese herbal medicine is complex and require experience TCM practitioner(TCMP) for diagnosis and treatment.
I do not believe TCM is a holistic approach . There are a lot of info on the web about holistic medicine and TCM practice people can find out their difference .
Different cultures have their different traditional medicinal formulas to treat various illness and proven to be useful too.
EU pharmacopoeia is similar to the USP( USA pharmacopeia ); if you look closely, the standard is for Medicine & the raw materials to compound the medicine only. And not for food like all the herbals plants, seeds leaf that you can buy in a grocery store, at least it is in the States herbal medicines are classified as food and nothing else.
The purpose of this long discussion is not for myself but for those who would come later to explore this topic again , like you in the future.
Thanks for the discussion and I will stop here with regard to this subject matter.
God bless
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"We showed a big improvement defensively from our last performance," said Canisius head coach Dermot McGrane. "We put a big emphasis on defense in practice since the last game and it really showed by getting our first shutout of the season. The next step is to put together a complete game on both the attacking and defensive sides."
Senior netminder Ryan Arvin anchored the Canisius defense on the evening, recording four saves to earn his second collegiate shutout and his first in two seasons.
After a scoreless first half, Arvin was called upon early in the second stanza and responded well. The senior netminder made a nice save in the 51st minute off a long-range shot and then aggressively made a play on a ball after a streaking UB forward got past the Canisius defense in the 55th minute of play.
The score remained deadlocked at zero until the Griffs nearly netted a late goal in the final minute of regulation. Junior Denver Spearman made a nice move to beat a defender but his shot was saved and the Griffs could not capitalize on the rebound as the teams headed into overtime.
Neither team was able to take advantage of the extra 20 minutes and score a goal, with Arvin recording two of his four saves on the night in the overtime.
Buffalo finished the game with a slight edge in shots, 17-16, and a 7-4 edge in corner kicks. Waleed Cassis recorded eight saves to match Arvin with the clean sheet.
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