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My 425 is still smooth as silk at 124k miles, it does, however, use about a quart of oil each thousand miles. Since I intend to keep the car, I have kept in the back of my mind a rebuild of the engine, carb and transmission too, and the MTS #3 mileage cam will go in so I can maybe go 3 days between fill ups instead of 2.
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Since were talking about cams, here's some basic info about cam specs:
Popular HotRodding Article:http://www.popularhotrodding.com/eng...s/viewall.html
Monte Carlo Forum on LSA ect:
LS1 Forum on Cam Advancing Specs:
The specs that MTS e-mailed me are still only basic specs and not the complete cam profile. Probably so people can't duplicate the cam by another mfg. without having the profile measured on a "Cam Doctor" machine.
A little on Camshaft integrity here by NC Cams, when measuring on a "cam doctor machine" that a camshaft supplier uses...funny thread but informative on measuring cam defects also!
When you get a new cam, it must be degreed just in case the keyway is off and it needs to be corrected by drilling the cam sprocket alignment hole and installing a offset shim or an adjustable cam sprocket! .
Anyway, I went looking on YOUTUBE for their old "Cam Degreeing" video, which I have in their old kit they sold in the early 90's with a classroom tutorial and teacher using a classroom chalkboard. I asked Comp Cams to upload it but here is their newer less informative video:
Here's the kit they sell through Summit Racing:
A few years ago, a company called CamLogic developed a digital cam degreeing kit and it was bought out by Comp Cams-Powerhouse Tools, and may not be available any longer:
Here's a good 5 part video on Camshaft Design:
From what I read on the old archived MTS site that I will post along with many other links: "MT Series Cams are custom ground for MTS by Comp Cams" and the "VT Series are custom ground for MTS by Erson Cams"
The new owners of MTS could have their cams ground by other grinders in the industry.
Hopefully, Comp Cams will upload their original cam degreeing video.
Re: 472, how to boost fuel economy?Did you read this link to the forum "This ol' 429.......Boat anchor or awesome powerhouse?" that I posted previously?What Plasma system did they review in that magazine article?
I have to look for that magazine, maybe I can find one from library. I think they store some old magazines in there.Not sure if he also sent you this info too.Not a big deal, but just picking the best rear gears to match that cam is important to get your fuel economy...
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Arron9000 in post #18 said most likely you have 2.94:1 gears. Since you were not the original owner, have you ever verified what gears you have?
Here's one way to check...see post#9:
I'll get you a definite answer from that tech at the company who builds custom converters.
Just found another site for the 1969 Cadillac Specs:
By the way, in Finland, you are paying $8.60 U.S. for a gallon of gas!!!!!!!!!!!
Basically, 1.6 Euros per liter. That's $2.15 US per liter or a quart! There are about 4 liters or quarts to a gallon.
So what's the more severe punishment, stealing petrol or stealing a draft horse to tow your Caddy around?!
I think you may want to consider the "Electric Car Conversion Forum"! I don't know how you guys can afford to drive those cars over-there........................
Re: 472, how to boost fuel economy?Arron9000 in post #18 said most likely you have 2.94:1 gears. Since you were not the original owner, have you ever verified what gears you have?By the way, in Finland, you are paying $8.60 U.S. for a gallon of gas!!!!!!!!!!!
Basically, 1.6 Euros per liter. That's $2.15 US per liter or a quart! There are about 4 liters or quarts to a gallon.
Now the gas prices have come down a little. In spring gas prices were something like 1.7 and 1.8 Euros per liter..Now prices are something like 1.55 and 1.6 Euros per liter.I think you may want to consider the "Electric Car Conversion Forum"!
Well, maybe pressurized natural gas conversion is an option in future. The conversion itself isn't very expensive but the availability of natural gas is bad. Hope there will be more gas stations in future. Of course problems with natural gas prices begin when there is more natural-gas powered cars in the streets and when the government starts to tax heavily natural gas...I don't know how you guys can afford to drive those cars over-there........................
I think there was more politics than Cadillacs in this message
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There are also LPG (Liquid Propane Gas) conversions that many fleet trucks convert to which is cheaper than gasoline here and burns cleaner. There are inexpensive kits available also for personal cars/trucks...infact, many internet forums devoted to it. I've been reading about an additive for LPG that increases BTU's of the combustion.Not sure if Finland has LPG filling stations.
You need to get the "h-ll" out of Finland with your Caddy and not look back! We are all very lucky to be able to buy gas at what seems to be much more reasonable prices here in the U.S. versus other countries.
Here's something that should make all of us pretty mad...........CITCO in Venezuela is around .18 cents a gallon U.S!
Here are the 10 Ten Cheapest gas prices in the world.....you'll need to move there or drive there to fill up the Deville!!!!!!!!!!!!:
Last time the U.S. saw .18 cents per gallon was 1931-1941:
Of course, there is always the alternative type of gas to run the Caddy on: Lets see our governments tax that!
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Can we try to get the discussion back to RWD Cadillacs, please?
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After reading the choices on the list.....I would move to Finland and pay the price first!
Re: 472, how to boost fuel economy?.Not sure if Finland has LPG filling stations.You need to get the "h-ll" out of Finland with your Caddy and not look back! We are all very lucky to be able to buy gas at what seems to be much more reasonable prices here in the U.S. versus other countries.
And back to Cadillacs, I checked my back gears and they were a bit under 3. When I rotated my wheel two times round, the driveshaft rotated a bit less than 3 times. So, I think I have those 2.94:1 gears. The mark in driveshaft started to "retard" when I rotated my wheel 4 or 6 times.
Could it be possible that my stock torque converter could work with longer back gears?
Few days ago, I heard one rumour from american car mechanic. If I mix classic Dexron II atf and some wet brake oil 50%/50%, I could get an oil mix which doesn't slit as much as todays Dexron II. Has anyone else heard this kind of information?
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Cadchris, have you asked about torque converters from YANK yet?
I have 2.94 gears now.
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Sorry I didn't get back to you 3dfx, I've been working on a "huge deal" to purchase prototype performance parts that were developed for the early Cadillac Motorsports Program for the 4.5/4.9 Cadillac's 88-96. I made the deal to save these parts and race motors from being throw out and made into scrap metal !
I've been wanting to send a different e-mail for another opinion on this converter; just get second opinion. I just sent the e-mail and hopefully will hear back today or tomorrow. I was hoping that others would post, but I'll get that huge researched posted up I did way back on this topic and have even more to add.......
Stay tuned!
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O.K. I'm going to try the best I can writing this one up as I'm no expert on Transmissions or Torque Converters! But I can give you my best feeling and educated guess on what to do based on my conversations with some of the experts of "High End" built converters unlike the regular known "Performance Brands" like TCI, B&M ect. ect........
The converters I'm going to talk about are really high end quality, all new billet designs, with a little secretiveness between each company's technology!
I spoke to both Terry Hedrick at Precision Industries Converters http://www.converter.com/ who built my converter based on my intensive research a few years ago for my 700R4 but haven't had my trans rebuilt yet. I also spoke to Mike Senia at YANK Converters http://www.converter.cc/ who gave me more favorable info on how he would build a Non-Lockup Converter for the TH400.
There are only a few company's out there who build high end converters and the average price is around $900. Many forums I've researched all say not to buy a cheep so called "Performance Converter" because you really get what you pay for and is a necessity for both efficient function and performance of the transmission.
These are full billet designs that are precision balanced, furnace brazed double-backed fin to avoid "fold over" from high engine torque, and the welds don't have globs of brass solder on the vanes which interrupts fluid dynamics and flow like seen on Precision page that all 3 companies do:
Just a few of these well known "Billet Converter Companies" are Precision "Vigilante", YANK, and Art Carr.
Here's some background on both Precision and YANK:
Terry Hedrick of Precision worked for Art Carr many years ago from what I read on other forums, and started his own company building high performance converters with improved designs from Art Carr and he is well respected in the industry. I've also heard, his company is small, but does build proprietary private label parts for other converter companies with his trusted technology and he is mostly known to build special converters for Diesel Trucks and is known to have proprietary clutch frictions .
YANK converters was started by Mike Senia and I know for a fact that Mike has close ties with GM Engineering and GM even turns to his company and him for consulting work on converters. Mike and his father have had a long history with GM as they were involved in factory custom coach building with GM back in the 60's thru 80's and being sponsored by GM's Motorsport race program for NHRA. Mike has factory GM transmission/converter testing dyno's along with a lot unlimited access to GM's Engineers ect. which I suppose helped him develop his technology in high performance converter designs. Mike is also head of product development/consultant for Cloyes Timing Chains/Gears! Mike also said to go with the Cloyes Race Billet Kit which will give you the ability to advance the MTS#3 cam 2 degrees on the crank sprocket which is better for low end torque. I say to also always degree the cam in with a degree wheel kit so you know exactly how the cam is installed.
Although Marty at MTS said the cam should be installed at 0 degrees (straight up) on the early high compression motors to avoid detonation/pre-ignition, it really got me thinking about other technology I've hear about in coolant and that cam timing can actually be advanced by using a special coolant called Evans Coolant which is a Non-Aqueous Proplyene Glycol NPG+ and cools cylinder temperature so well to avoid detonation. Their technology states more horsepower, better fuel efficiency and less wear on components since you can run a low pressure radiator cap or zero pressure radiator cap all when using this special highly efficient coolant!
I have a very good article about using this "not well known coolant" which allows an engine to run very high ignition advance and it cools the cylinders so well it avoids detonation! A turbo pickup truck was able to gain 75 hp with this coolant and advanced timing! So this might be something you want to consider in controlling cylinder temps when running advanced timing and running lean carburation for better fuel efficiency without detonation.
I'll have to figure out how to attach this article, but here's the website:
Basically, for better fuel efficiency and power, you want to advance timing, and valve timing to move the torque curve low in the RPM range, lean out the carb. and the Evans Coolant will allow you to do it without detonation. All racers and turbo guys use this stuff to avoid detonation. Hopefully I can get in touch with Al Betker as he's the authority to know what to do with the Big Block Cadillac Motors.
I don't know much about Art Carr Converters and Transmissions, http://www.cpttransmission.com/index.htm but the name is very well known in the early years of performance converter manufacturing and is also mentioned in the racing scene and forums along with Precision and YANK Converters being the better technology and design.
I asked a series of questions to Terry and told him I was going to post his answers on the forum. He gives some straight forward advice and opinions, but I was hoping for something more but he did try to answer each question, but did not give a price quote when I asked him in question #1.
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Here's my questions/answers to Terry Hedrick at Precision Converters after giving him the MTS#3 Cam Specs, Trans, Gear ratio, car info ect. :
#1. Can you build a custom converter for this car and send it to Finland Europe ....any est. on price for domestic sales also?...................HE DID NOT ANSWER THIS QUESTION.
This "Forum Member" is located in Finland and there is a huge vintage Cadillac ownership there in Europe paying $9 a gallon to drive these cars so any converter improvement in fuel efficiency through a converter design will hopefully help.
From what I've been researching on many other forums, many people have said to stay with the TH400, but he wants fuel economy and its been debated if a 200R4 will hold, even if its built up. The 4L80 is probably the way to go for the high hp/tq of the 472 and fuel efficiency, but is an expensive conversion. Many have said not to use the 700R4 even if its built-up which apparently costs a lot to beef it up.
He wants the best fuel economy as possible and does not know what the best gears would be to match up to the cam, tq. conv., and trans. for best fuel economy. He currently has 2.94 rear gears.
#2. What is your advice for his set up?
To get the best fuel economy I would suggest using a transmission with a lock up torque converter and overdrive such as a 2004R.
I've read that there "IS and IS NOT" a lockup converter for the TH400 and I think I read that YANK did make a lock-up in the past along with some other mfgs.
#3. Does the trans need heavily modded for a lockup conversion?
We used to make a lock up 400 transmission kit and converter but do not any more because no one would spend the money.
I've read about the "Switch Pitch" TH400 also but don't really understand how it works and how to operate it. The transmission has the capability to alter the blade angle of the stator allowing for more or less torque multiplication.
Here is one of the concerns posted from that Cadillac Forum Member in Finland :
"If I'm lowering my engine RPM with rear gears, does my non-lockup torque converter transmission "slip" more? If it starts to slip more, will I get heat problems and my torque converter starts to wear causing more slippage and heat problems?"
#4. Can you answer this question for him?
The lower gears will cause more slippage on take-off but slippage will be the same as before at road speed.
#5. Can there be a similar problem if he went with a Gear Vendors on the TH400 and non-lockup?
The slip on take-off will be less.
#6. Do you know how to get in touch with Al Betker who was the old owner of MTS (Maximum Torque Specialties) who developed that camshaft line years ago?
I did find a home phone number to Al Betker the old owner of MTS Maximum Torque Inc and his advice should be the best on everything to get that 22 MPG's from the cam he developed! I'll try calling him tomorrow....
#7. What benefits can your custom billet Converter do for this or any Big Block Caddy economy application? Without lockup capability there are not any.
Also, I see so much positive talk on the "Guys Who Know What Their Talking About Race Forums on Converters" and the only ones they mention without debate are your converters and Yanks, Art Carr.....no others!
#8. Do you guys do anything different in your custom billet converters vs. Yanks or are you guys basically using the same build/technology?
All different converter builders have their own theories of how converters work.
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Maybe I should've just spoke to Terry off the record for better info... I think he may have some limitations in his converter technology.
Here's what Mike from YANK said:
He can also have a custom billet NON- LOCKUP Converter built specifically for your 69' Deville's weight, MTS#3 Cam Specs, 2:94 gears which was the same info I gave Terry at Precision. Mike said this would be a custom designed 258 mm billet converter with higher Torque Multiplication. A 2.73 STR (Stall Torque Ratio which equals less throttle to get the car moving and will have a better efficiency in design. It will have totally different internals for quick coupling at low RPM with 97% efficiency vs. the factory design of 83% efficiency which will result in 8-12% + performance increase and 7% gain in fuel millage. $895+$115 Shipping.
He said as an example, if your car currently gets 10 mpgs. It will now gain 11 mpgs. Or if you currently get 15 mpgs from optimizing your ignition, carburation, cam ect. you will then get 17mpgs. The highly efficient converter is a way to optimize the transmission and is an area that can be greatly improved over the factory design and other performance converters.
He said they did make a Lockup Converter for the TH400 but you would need a whole custom trans. at $4000 + $2000 for the special converter and would only gain 3-4% fuel millage. They made this lock-up conversion many years ago, because there was no high horsepower lock-up transmission available until performance parts were eventually developed for building up 200r4's and 700r4's including the development of the 4L80 which all made the specially designed lock-up 400 obsolete. It was an ingenious but expensive design that was not very popular due to the expense
Then there is the rare GM designed "Switch Pitch TH400 Transmission" which was a incredible design in converter/transmission technology.
Mike also said he has a few pumps, turbine heads, input shafts for the "Switch Pitch TH400" which worked by being able to adjust the pitch of the stator vanes inside the converter and decreased torque multiplication when coming to a stop and was hooked up to either a manual switch or the brake pedal switch and had a high stall at 1900-2200. This was a very unique and limited transmission and still advanced technolgy to todays standards, but is also antiquated and very expensive when a 200R4 can be built-up cheaper according to these Art Carr Article's which I believe you should really now consider doing a built up performance 200R4 and using a YANK lockup converter:
I will have to see if Art Carr will provide me with a parts list for building up the 200R4. I'm certain they do not develop their own parts so with some research, I may be able to find out who they are buying from.
Most of their high performance parts are probably developed by SONNAX and if not, then Sonnax should know who.
This company called PACT Transmission has a huge mega website. They've been actually known to develop their own performance parts for the 700R4 and other transmissions and maybe selling to Art Carr or vise versa.
You can actually spend days reading their site but I believe many of the same parts can be found through other suppliers. I've heard good and bad things about their built transmissions, but some of their custom parts are their own unique designs.
P.A.C.T. 200R4 Tip Sheet: http://www.transmissioncenter.net/2004RTIP.htm
PACT 200R4 Parts Page:
Those pages above will at least give you an idea of the performance parts list, along with the Art Carr articles on building up a 200R4.
If you go with a 200R4, I would rely on a YANK converter because now that I know about Mike Senia's history with GM and from what I read what all another forums say about his company and converters. However, when I was was worried about my decision with the Precision Converter I bought for my 91 Brougham t00r4 but he said not to worry that I got a good converter from Terry at Precision. I just have a feeling that the YANK converters are better in design.
If you get a non-lockup for the TH400 or a lock-up for a 200R4, definitely get a Trans Cooler to protect that expensive converter and the transmission. It's just a good thing to have as cheep insurance.
Video/Article on YANK Converters:
Hope this helps a little!
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I forgot to add the price from YANK and I added it above. I had to Edit like 20 times because I went over the "15,000" character/letter limit because my post was so long!
It's $895 + $115 shipping to Finland Europe for a Non-Lockup Converter on the TH400 Transmission...
I'll have to call Terry at Precision Industries and ask why he didn't quote a price, unless they don't ship to Europe.
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Ok, I read your post and It was very interesting to read."If I'm lowering my engine RPM with rear gears, does my non-lockup torque converter transmission "slip" more? If it starts to slip more, will I get heat problems and my torque converter starts to wear causing more slippage and heat problems?"
#4. Can you answer this question for him?
The lower gears will cause more slippage on take-off but slippage will be the same as before at road speed.Although Marty at MTS said the cam should be installed at 0 degrees (straight up) on the early high compression motors to avoid detonation/pre-ignition, it really got me thinking about other technology I've hear about in coolant and that cam timing can actually be advanced by using a special coolant called Evans Coolant which is a Non-Aqueous Proplyene Glycol NPG+ and cools cylinder temperature so well to avoid detonation. Their technology states more horsepower, better fuel efficiency and less wear on components since you can run a low pressure radiator cap or zero pressure radiator cap all when using this special highly efficient coolant!
I have a very good article about using this "not well known coolant" which allows an engine to run very high ignition advance and it cools the cylinders so well it avoids detonation! A turbo pickup truck was able to gain 75 hp with this coolant and advanced timing! So this might be something you want to consider in controlling cylinder temps when running advanced timing and running lean carburation for better fuel efficiency without detonation.
I'll have to figure out how to attach this article, but here's the website:
I think I will first focus to my engine. First thing in the spring I will do pressure test, pass-leak test and the de-carbonising with some kind of chemical. I don't know do we have Seafoam here in Finland, but we have some (very expensive) Forte-chemicals. They should be professional quality stuff. I have used their radiator cleaner with my Saab, and it did the job very well. Now my coolant is good looking green and not dirty, rusty red. I think I use that same radiator cleaner with my Cadillac. The radiator seemed pretty dirty (that white stuff which comes with the water was everywhere, I dont know what that's stuff's name in english)
I will adjust my points and ignition, when I checked my ignition basic timing in last summer, it was something like 30-40 degrees BTDC. I tried to adjust it but my distributor was so jammed that it did not move...I hadn't been adjusted in ages
I must change oils in the spring too. I'll take my oil pan off and check if it has any sign of worn timing chain gears in it. If I find some of those gear parts, I'll take my engine out of the car and do complete engine repair and change all worn parts, bearings, piston rings etc. I replace the stock cam with MTS economy cam as well.
If I can't find any traces of broken timing gears, I will drive next summer and start engine repairs in fall when I got warm place to do those things.
By the way, I went to try if my Cadillac still starts easily. It has been in place for 3 to 4 winter months. The starter revolved the engine couple of rounds and BOOM, the engine was running! Some people here say that old american motors don't start in winter because it's too cold. I wonder if thats true...At least my motor started, and it was -10 degrees celsius when I started it..
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Just a reminder: TV is as creatively bankrupt as the film industry, if not more so
posted at 12:36 pm on February 20, 2013 by Allahpundit
What's worse: A hundred variations on the same superhero movie or a hundred variations on shows about shut-ins who can't be convinced to throw away garbage they've been piling up since 1965?
Once, at a family gathering, I was informed by two relatives that I should check out "the show about people bidding on storage lockers." So I did. Later I found out the three of us had been watching three different shows.
Recently in the Green Room:
I like the hoarder shows. They motivate my wife to throw stuff out.
kh6zv9 on February 20, 2013 at 12:41 PM
Wow. I haven't really watched TV since 1997, except for Seinfeld on a local channel, and nothing at all in the last 4 years so I hadn't realized it was this bad now.
Dusty on February 20, 2013 at 12:51 PM
That Guns of Guns show looks good.
rbj on February 20, 2013 at 12:53 PM
I have to admit i actually like Pawn Stars.
clearbluesky on February 20, 2013 at 12:55 PM
These shows, and "reality" in general, have ruined TV. There are a few gems (Modern Family, Breaking Bad), but otherwise it's garbage. I have no interest in watching people try to sing, dance, or dive, nor do I care about what people hoard, or how 'little people' do in their everyday lives.
changer1701 on February 20, 2013 at 12:55 PM
Broadway's just as bad. Everything is either a stage version of a movie, or a spin off of a movie.
CurtZHP on February 20, 2013 at 12:58 PM
Once, at a family gathering, I was informed by two relatives that I should check out "the show about people bidding on storage lockers
Heh. I happen to really enjoy the original Storage Wars based in California (Barry Weiss is one funny dude). It's entertaining watching them dig out all sorts of goodies from their lockers, if any, and having the experts they take items to give up a little history on the 'treasure' and what a collector might pay. Now A&E network has Storage Wars: Texas and Storage Wars: New York piggybacking off the original's mega success. No, thank you.
RepubChica on February 20, 2013 at 12:58 PM
I like Storage Wars. It is alot better than "Funny or Die" which has never been funny but still lives on for some reason.
echosyst on February 20, 2013 at 12:59 PM
I'll admit, I miss the Stargate series's. Futurama and Walking Dead are good. Yeah, I'm a nerd.
LaughterJones on February 20, 2013 at 1:02 PM
I like the hoarder shows. They motivate my wife to throw stuff out.
kh6zv9 on February 20, 2013 at 12:41 PM
Haha, I watched a couple to make myself throw stuff out too.
El_Terrible on February 20, 2013 at 1:09 PM
Pawn Stars and Shipping Wars are okay to watch (mostly because my dad gets to be king of the remote when he's here and he watches that crap)
Of course I'd rather watch Game of Thrones, Castle, The Mentalist, The FOllowing…basically something that is actually creative.
NerwenAldarion on February 20, 2013 at 1:10 PM
Just a reminder: TV is as creatively bankrupt as the film industry, if not more so
I would not put this down to creativity but economics. These things are either much cheaper to make or are guaranteed a return if they choose to go big. This is like saying there is no creativity in food preparation because most places make hamburgers. If the entertainment market was as free as the restaurant business you would have more creativity. It isn't. You want creativity? Reform the copyright laws. It's hard to innovate when everything that is part of our culture for the last 90 years is protected by law.
Rocks on February 20, 2013 at 1:12 PM
Think about it. How can truly unique plots and sophisticated writing be expected to fill what, six hours a night on three major networks? Throw in a myriad of cable channels and the task is impossible.
Net result, we are buried in a blizzard of low life trash.
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FOWG1 on February 20, 2013 at 1:14 PM
The worse I ever saw was one episode of a brit show called Embarrassingly Fat Bodies. Oh, man! it wasn't that the people were fat, it was the doctors doing these exams and the camera right up in there. I'm talking gyno shots and p*n*s shots of 500 lb people. Then they had photographs of the poop of fat people and analysed it. It was just so gross that what ever points they were trying to make were lost.
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Hillbilly hand fishing!!!!
How can you NOT watch that!?! Complete with subtitles.
This stuff is cheap and they're never going to be held hostage by a writer's strike again.
jdpaz on February 20, 2013 at 1:19 PM
Hollywood writers really shot themselves in the foot when they went on strike a few years back. Still, high quality scripted shows are better than movies.
Blake on February 20, 2013 at 1:20 PM
I like to see skilled people in their jobs, like the aquarium builders, Face Off, and stuff like that.
I LOVE Finding Bigfoot so there's that.
CrimsonFisted on February 20, 2013 at 2:04 PM
What? Heresy! Two and a half men is the smartest, most sharply-written show since… uummmm….. shut up!
/watches Castle and Bones, the wife watches Glee and everything else we watch on Netflix or Hulu. Having torn through BSG and Doctor Who, we've moved on to The Shield. Anyone see the common thread? Great actors, engaging serial story arcs… and NOT on broadcast TV even when they were originally aired.
The Schaef on February 20, 2013 at 2:08 PM
Anyone see the common thread? Great actors, engaging serial story arcs… and NOT on broadcast TV even when they were originally aired.
The Schaef on February 20, 2013 at 2:08 PM
I would add to that the HBO series "Deadwood" and "Rome" and "The Wire". All were awesome and I was crushed when they were cancelled although "The Wire" had, admittedly, run its course.
tommyboy on February 20, 2013 at 2:32 PM
The Following has been pretty good so far, it is original. But the plot makes me wonder if there is planned obsolescence baked in, because it can only go so far before it will become totally over the top.
Big Bang Theory does make me chuckle, even though I am certainly not in the target demographic.
I like Castle, and was enjoying Longmire. (I have no idea if it picked up a second season, since I watch these things on Hulu (free) and such.) I have several sets of books that I would LOVE to see turned into mini-series or series – but noone seems interested in that sort of stuff unless it's on HBO or Showtime, anymore. And they aren't interested unless it involves gore or sex or drugs.
(Oh, and ScyFy hasn't produced any actual science fiction – much less any good science fiction – in a looong time.)
GWB on February 20, 2013 at 2:54 PM
And then on the other side of the scale there's Justified.
rokemronnie on February 20, 2013 at 3:06 PM
I still find some B'cast TV enjoyable. The crime stuff on CBS is easy to watch. I like the NCIS franchise because it's from Bellisario and so is patriotic and very good at character growth and development. As a NYer I enjoy Blue Bloods for the locale and the fact that as unrealistic as some of the plots are, the NYPD routines and lingo are spot on. We've also discovered Encore Western. The old Gunsmokes, Rawhides, et.al. were wonderfully written and far more sophisticated in plot and theme than most shows today. We do watch Pawn Stars because it's ALWAYS on but if I watch only one reality it will be Deadliest Catch. One horrid new show is this Fox thing, The Following. It's plot and character's actions are preposterous and it seems only to be a vehicle for showing horribly vile murders.
xkaydet65 on February 20, 2013 at 3:16 PM
I have to admit i actually like Pawn Stars.
clearbluesky on February 20, 2013 at 12:55 PM
Chumbama for president!
NoFanofLibs on February 20, 2013 at 3:22 PM
Big bang Theory is the only network show I watch anymore. I'd probably watch a few things on cable, but Dad's got a deathgrip on the remote for hours of Fox News Channel every freaking night.
I mostly just play around on the computer putting up auctions and online sales. When it gets warm I'll spend more evenings working in the shop.
TV is basically dead to me.
trigon on February 20, 2013 at 3:23 PM
Imitation is the sincerest form of television.
Fred Allen (1894-1956)
bandarlog on February 20, 2013 at 3:23 PM
Anybody else watch that hour long primetime drama with the detective and cops? It's great, though I always find it a bit weird how they have the female lead discover the secrets more than him despite all of his experience. They're a quirky team, even if their romance may or may not have worked.
Also like that hour long primetime drama about doctors that take risks and the sitcom about a bunch of friends that work together/hang out/pair up and screw in varying combinations.
Gingotts on February 20, 2013 at 3:31 PM
There's an abundance of garbage because there are so many channels to fill—sort of like there is an upper limit to the number of quality pitchers in Major League Baseball. But there are more than enough terrific TV programs to fill every normal waking hour available to you if you're employed. Tom Selleck's Blue Bloods, the cop drama, is a solid procedural and portrays a family brought up as church-going Catholics in a very positive light (Selleck's character, like some of the others, is still strong in the faith and interacts with the Church and priests etc on a regular, comfortable basis). Castle is a fun and witty drama whose lead male character Nathan Fillion (Mal, the Firefly captain) is shown to be a loving Dad and son. Glee is very lefty even by Hollywood standards, and I stopped watching out of sheer boredom after it became a nonstop gayfest, but it had some outstanding moments and portrays one character in a wheelchair and another with Down's Syndrome in a non-token, non-condescending way (the Down's kid is for reals). Revolution is an interesting idea that pulls it off sometimes. Fringe was close to Lost territory, but made sense in the end, unlike… Lost. Psych, on a cable channel, is usually upbeat positive fun. Modern Family on ABC will rub some people the wrong way with its unapologetic positive portrayal of gay family life, but it's a riot, well-written and with a top-notch cast. There's more. Week to week, your chances of seeing quality video entertainment is much better on TV than the movies these days. You just have to make good choices.
Chriscom on February 20, 2013 at 3:45 PM
Big Bang Theory is the only network show I watch anymore.
BBT is a show that I dislike but somehow watch more than I like to admit. The constant repetition of "coitus" is sickening. But there's no doubt Jim Parsons created a unique character in Sheldon. It was interesting to watch the pilot the other night and to see a more normal and less way-out Sheldon.
I've been marveling at Downton Abbey and its popularity (no spoilers please — I'm on Season Three, Episode 4). It most certainly is a soap opera, and it's in no way the achievement that Brideshead Revisited was. Still, it's certainly compelling, and I find myself thinking about the characters (I know — get a life).
The only other shows to recommend, besides the classics of Mary Tyler Moore, etc., are the first few years of Scrubs and Anthony Bourdain.
bobs1196 on February 20, 2013 at 3:55 PM
It's all part of the plan to continue to "dumb-down" the population and shift attention from important stuff. It's working. I expect that Chumlee will be on TV in the 2014 election cycle telling people who to vote for.
teejk on February 20, 2013 at 3:56 PM
Two words:
Canadian television.
"Lost Girl" is my all time favorite television series. (The Showcase version, I suspect Scifi edits out some of the more risque stuff.)
Sexy, funny, smart. Great actors, great characters, great music, great fashion, great stories.
"Kenzi with a chain saw."
"Kenzi beats the pig people with a magic stick."
MichaelGabriel on February 20, 2013 at 4:09 PM
I enjoyed Fringe, but now it's gone. That's actually a good thing in a way–the only way to stay away from the shark is to tie a bow on things before you peak, or soon after.
TexasDan on February 20, 2013 at 4:26 PM
I usually enjoy NCIS (and the Los Angeles one as well), CSI:NY (Gary Senise is great and a real stand-up guy with what he does for the troops), The Mentalist, Supernatural (I can't help it, the humor is great, even though I have severe theological complaints against the show.), and most of the HGTV shows.
I miss 24 and Jericho. Oh, and a good Star Trek series (like Next Generation).
Othniel on February 20, 2013 at 4:29 PM
Anddd… Hollywood remakes TV Shows! (And these are Remakes of American TV shows, I'm not including remakes of British TV shows)
1) The Munsters
2) Hawaii Five-O
3) Partners
4) Bionic Woman
5) Charlie's Angels
6) Battlestar Galactica
7) Dallas
8) Nikita
10) 90210
11) Melrose Place
12) Dragnet
13) Knight Rider
And that doesn't include the Movie Launches of old TV Shows.
tru2tx on February 20, 2013 at 2:51 PM
Yes to both. The Following is, unwittingly, Hollywood's best argument for the death penalty.
NebCon on February 20, 2013 at 5:20 PM
I actually think TV has improved considerably over the last few years. Our DVR is always full of shows to watch. Here are a few that usually get taped.
The Following
Breaking Bad
Deadliest Catch
Storm Chasers
Impractical Jokers
Joe Shmoe Show
Any Chicago sports (Bulls, Hawks, Cubs, Bears)
Ditkaca on February 20, 2013 at 5:23 PM
I would add to that the HBO series "Deadwood" and "Rome" and "The Wire". All were awesome and I was crushed when they were cancelled although "The Wire" had, admittedly, run its course.
tommyboy on February 20, 2013 at 2:32 PM
And the Walking Dead. Its recent resurgence no doubt due in some small part from Shield producer Glen Mazarra taking over.
I actually think TV has improved considerably over the last few years…
Ditkaca on February 20, 2013 at 5:23 PM
You're actually making my point for me here. Nearly every single show on your list is shown on cable TV, the exceptions being Survivor which launched reality shows, and Homeland and The Following are on Fox. Fox is often the exception that proves the rule: while other stations are running endless police procedural drama shows and their panoply of spin-offs, or shows that compete for controversy, Fox showed all of Joss Whedon's programs at one time or another, plus House, Bones, Glee, 24, Fringe, the Terminator series, The Tick, Tru Calling, Family Guy, Futurama, The Good Guys, Arrested Development… the only thing worse than all the bad shows on all the other channels is that Fox gets all these good shows and then cans most of them before they get off the ground. Case in point: all of the aforementioned shows are gone except Bones and Glee; House, 24 and Fringe ran their course, and Family Guy was brought back, but all the other ones just died a quick death.
The Schaef on February 20, 2013 at 5:40 PM
Just a reminder: TV is as creatively bankrupt as the film industry, if not more so
Yet, incredibly, nearly everyone reading this comment will stare at the TV for at least 10 hours this week.
Get a life, dudes!
itsnotaboutme on February 20, 2013 at 6:10 PM
The Schaef on February 20, 2013 at 5:40 PM
I will never forgive them for cancelling Arrested Development. I know the premise could not have lasted forever, but it had a few more seasons left. Thank god for Netflix bringing it back for another season. They also recently cancelled Ben and Kate, which was way underrated and very very funny if given a chance.
gator70 on February 20, 2013 at 6:12 PM
Bring back 'Firefly'.
Browncoats Unite!
trigon on February 20, 2013 at 6:31 PM
I quit watching TV in 2003. I don't miss it.
I'll occasionally watch a movie at the theater. I've never seen a superhero movie, or a remake of an old movie or TV show.
single stack on February 20, 2013 at 9:20 PM
It's hard to innovate when everything that is part of our culture for the last 90 years is protected by law.
Everything coming out today being completely unoriginal and based on something that's already out there contradicts that argument. Original ideas don't have to worry much about copyright.
xblade on February 20, 2013 at 9:37 PM
Wtorage Wars, my friend got me into that. It's slightly addicting.
Storage Wars Texas…that's very different, takes a little extra effort to watch.
I don't know about a 3rd one…oh wait is it like New York or something? I can't keep up with em all. The gold digging shows, loggers, it's insane. I do enjoy Gordon Ramsey on Fox and BBC.
Here's one you might like, Bar Rescue…on Spike I think.
John Kettlewell on February 20, 2013 at 9:58 PM
I like the original Storage Wars. Pawn Stars is also a favorite of mine; you actually learn some things when you're watching. Lots of fun for history buffs.
I don't currently have a lot on the DVR that's scripted. I do enjoy Scandal, Glee, Mad Men, The Following. Several people have recommended Walking Dead, Sons of Anarchy, American Horror Story. I'll probably give these a try once life settles down again. In spite of all the outrageous reality shows on cable right now, it seems like scripted TV is enjoying a renaissance, which is nice. Of course, as a conservative, you have to look past the blatantly liberal bias in 95% of the programming out there, but I'm able to do that. If I didn't I'd be watching nothing but the Food Network and HGTV. I feel like good storytelling can exist independently of Hollywood's left wing agenda.
NoLeftTurn on February 20, 2013 at 11:32 PM
Shows I like to watch
Warehouse 13 SyFy
Continuum Syfy
Lost Girl Syfy
Arrow- WGN
Royal Pains USA
Suits- USA
Burn Notice-USA
Ultimate Warfare- Mili
Dr Who-BBC Am
Young Justice Cartoon
Green Lantern- Cartoon
Copper- BBC Am
Once upon a Time- ABC
Longmire A&E
Show too soon to judge
Monday Mornings TNT
New Shows I can' wait to see
Defiance – SyFy
Orphan Black- BBC AM
Glory Hounds- Mili
Able to tolerate
Wild Tuna
Bones- Fox
Supernatural- WGN
Chicago Fire
Guilty pleasure
Food network
TV shows I could not stomach
Glee- The TV series Fame was much better with much better talent
Grey's Anatomy- The medical drama that competes with ER on how many cast members will it kill in it's run.
All reality shows on the big three alphabet network and most reality shows on cable.
Most of the remakes like Hawaii-Five O
All Talk shows
Law & Order
DinobotPrime on February 21, 2013 at 12:36 AM


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Enjoying hurk quite a bit thus far.
Enjoying hurk quite a bit thus far.
Not a lot of people play FF14 here, but the Omnicane!
Obtained when you kill the new Extreme modes in 2.1.
I accidentally bought a hard copy instead of a download version and the hard copy went to another family member because I never updated it, so I had to wait two weeks for them to send it and it's also Christmas time so I'm probably going to get it on January 7th or something.
I'm honestly thinking of just buying the digital copy anyway. Is it possible to stack codes and get extra time? I'm really impatient.
Starbound is one of those games where I don't want to start playing it because it doesn't appeal to me, then when I actually start out of boredom, I get addicted with exploring and setting new goals that I have to force myself to log off.
new Vindictus character lynn, let the hype train begin, now to wait 6-8 months for NA haha.
YouTube Video
Just Cause 2 multiplayer mod. I roleplayed a fighter pilot and was selling my services in return for cash. I would ask a client to mark a target location/person/vehicle, and for a varying amount depending on difficulty and distance, I would take them out.
Crystal Tower is so much fun, but a bit to easy to my liking.
2 pieces of the ballad set, 3 to go.
Regrowing trees during a shower of falling stars.
Be careful of what you say, tomorrow or today, for the words you now speak, may become the poison your enemies later seek; truth.
"Rules do not exist to bind you, they exist so you may know your freedoms"
So I end up being addicted to Elsword again, since Vindictus NA servers are laggy like crazy and couldn't get back into C9. Elsword has a lot of new features since the last time I played.
- Public Dungeon match making: a lot easier to get in a party and do a dungeon
- Field Areas: Pseudo-MMO like open field
- Armor is now general to all classes from what I saw and new skill tree.
But I end up wasting all my stamina in like 2 hours :'(


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Primary sclerosing (skluh-ROHS-ing) cholangitis (koh-lan-JIE-tis) is a disease of the bile ducts, which carry the digestive liquid bile from your liver to your small intestine. In primary sclerosing cholangitis, inflammation causes scars within the bile ducts. These scars make the ducts hard and narrow and gradually cause serious liver damage.
In most people with primary sclerosing cholangitis, the disease progresses slowly and can lead to liver failure, repeated infections, and tumors of the bile duct or liver. Liver transplant is the only known cure for primary sclerosing cholangitis.
The search for other treatments to slow or stop primary sclerosing cholangitis is ongoing, and scientists have turned up many promising leads. Until better treatments are proved safe and effective, though, care for primary sclerosing cholangitis focuses on monitoring liver function, managing symptoms and, when possible, doing procedures that temporarily open blocked bile ducts.
Primary sclerosing cholangitis is often diagnosed before symptoms appear when a routine blood test or an X-ray taken for an unrelated condition shows liver abnormalities.
Early symptoms often include:
Many people diagnosed with primary sclerosing cholangitis before they have symptoms continue to feel generally well for several years, but there's no reliable way to predict how quickly or slowly the disease will progress for any individual. Signs and symptoms that may appear as the disease progresses include:
Make an appointment with your doctor if you have severe, unexplained itching on much of your body — itching that persists no matter how much you scratch. Also see your doctor if you feel extremely tired all the time, no matter what you do.
It's particularly important to bring unexplained fatigue and itching to your doctor's attention if you have ulcerative colitis or Crohn's disease, both of which are types of inflammatory bowel disease. A majority of people with primary sclerosing cholangitis also have one of these diseases.
It's not clear what causes primary sclerosing cholangitis. An immune system reaction to an infection or toxin may trigger the disease in people who are genetically predisposed to it.
A large proportion of people with primary sclerosing cholangitis also have inflammatory bowel disease, an umbrella term that includes ulcerative colitis and Crohn's disease. Primary sclerosing cholangitis and inflammatory bowel disease don't always appear at the same time, though. In some cases, primary sclerosing cholangitis is present for years before inflammatory bowel disease occurs. Somewhat less often, people being treated for inflammatory bowel disease turn out to have primary sclerosing cholangitis as well. And rarely, people with primary sclerosing cholangitis develop inflammatory bowel disease only after having a liver transplant.
Factors that may increase the risk of primary sclerosing cholangitis include:
Complications of primary sclerosing cholangitis may include:
Start by seeing your primary care doctor if you have signs or symptoms that worry you. If your doctor suspects you may have primary sclerosing cholangitis, you may be referred to a liver specialist (gastroenterologist or hepatologist).
Because appointments can be brief and because there's often a lot of ground to cover, it's a good idea to be well-prepared. Here's some information to help you get ready and what to expect from your doctor.
Your time with your doctor is limited. You may feel less rushed if you make a list of questions you want to ask at your appointment. Here are some possible questions about primary sclerosing cholangitis:
In addition to the questions that you've prepared to ask your doctor, don't hesitate to ask questions that come up during your appointment.
Your doctor is likely to ask you a number of questions. Being ready to answer them may allow more time later to cover points you want to address. Your doctor may ask:
Tests and procedures used to diagnose primary sclerosing cholangitis include:
Treatments for primary sclerosing cholangitis focus on managing complications and monitoring liver damage. Many medications have been studied in people with primary sclerosing cholangitis, but so far none have been found to slow or reverse the liver damage associated with this disease.
Antihistamines, such as diphenhydramine (Benadryl, Diphenhist, others) and loratadine (Alavert, Claritin, others), are commonly used to reduce itching from insect bites or contact dermatitis. Whether these medications are effective in primary sclerosing cholangitis, though, is unknown. Antihistamines may worsen the liver disease symptoms of dry eyes and dry mouth. On the other hand, antihistamines can help with sleep if itching keeps you awake.
Medications that bind to bile acids — the substances thought to cause itching in liver disease — are the first line treatment for itching in primary sclerosing cholangitis.
If you have trouble tolerating a bile acid-binding drug or if it doesn't help, your doctor may prescribe rifampin (Rifadin, Rimactane, others), an antibacterial drug. Exactly how rifampin reduces itching is unknown, but it may block the brain's response to itch-inducing chemicals in your circulation. Itching related to liver disease may also respond to opioid antagonist drugs, such as naltrexone. Like rifampin, these drugs seem to reduce the itch sensation by acting on your brain.
Bile that backs up in narrowed or blocked ducts causes frequent bacterial infections. To prevent and treat these infections, people with primary sclerosing cholangitis may take repeated courses of antibiotics or continue taking antibiotics for long periods. Before any procedure that could cause an infection, such as an endoscopic procedure or abdominal surgery, you'll also need to take antibiotics.
Primary sclerosing cholangitis makes it difficult for your body to absorb certain vitamins. Even though you may eat a healthy diet, you may find that you can't get all the nutrients you need. Your doctor may recommend vitamin supplements that you take as tablets or that you receive as an infusion through a vein in your arm. If the disease weakens your bones, you may take calcium and vitamin D supplements as well.
Blockages that occur in your bile ducts can be treated with:
A liver transplant is the only treatment known to cure primary sclerosing cholangitis. During a liver transplant, surgeons remove your diseased liver and replace it with a healthy liver from a donor. Liver transplant is reserved for people with liver failure or other severe complications of primary sclerosing cholangitis. Though uncommon, it's possible for primary sclerosing cholangitis to recur after a liver transplant.
If you've been diagnosed with primary sclerosing cholangitis, take steps to care for your liver, such as:
No alternative medicine treatments have been found to treat primary sclerosing cholangitis. But some complementary and alternative therapies may help you cope with the signs and symptoms of the disease. Talk to your doctor about your options.
Fatigue is common in people with primary sclerosing cholangitis. While doctors can treat some factors that may contribute to fatigue, your signs and symptoms may still persist. You might find relief with complementary and alternative treatments that have shown some benefit for fatigue, such as:
Liver transplant. Mayo Clinic transplant specialists have performed many transplants in people who have primary sclerosing cholangitis. People with primary sclerosing cholangitis who have liver transplants generally have high survival rates — 80 percent after five years on average. Recipients of liver transplants at Mayo Clinic have above-average survival rates.
Mayo Clinic is also one of the few medical centers in the country to offer liver transplant as a treatment option for bile duct cancer, which develops at much higher rates among people with primary sclerosing cholangitis than in the general population. A multidisciplinary team of Mayo Clinic hepatologists, surgical specialists, radiation oncologists and medical oncologists follows a several-stage treatment plan to prepare people with bile duct cancer for liver transplantation and provide comprehensive medical services during recovery and follow-up.
Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minn., ranks No. 1 for digestive disorders in the U.S. News & World Report Best Hospitals rankings. Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale, Ariz., and Mayo Clinic in Jacksonville, Fla., are ranked among the Best Hospitals for digestive disorders by U.S. News & World Report. Mayo Clinic also ranks among the Best Children's Hospitals for digestive disorders.
Mayo Clinic works with hundreds of insurance companies and is an in-network provider for millions of people. In most cases, Mayo Clinic doesn't require a physician referral. Some insurers require referrals or may have additional requirements for certain medical care. All appointments are prioritized on the basis of medical need.
Specialists in gastroenterology and hepatology at Mayo Clinic's campus in Arizona coordinate the diagnosis and treatment of primary sclerosing cholangitis. A special Hepatobiliary Clinic helps coordinate medical care as well as research on new treatments. The Arizona campus also has an active liver transplant program.
For appointments or more information, call the Central Appointment Office at 800-446-2279 (toll-free) 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. Mountain Standard Time, Monday through Friday or complete an online appointment request form.
Specialists in gastroenterology and hepatology at Mayo Clinic's campus in Florida coordinate the diagnosis and treatment of primary sclerosing cholangitis. The liver transplant program in Florida is a national leader in the number of liver transplants performed. The liver transplant program has one of the shortest wait times to transplant in the country.
For appointments or more information, call the Central Appointment Office at 904-953-0853 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. Eastern time, Monday through Friday or complete an online appointment request form.
At Mayo Clinic's campus in Minnesota, specialists in gastroenterology and hepatology diagnose and treat people who have primary sclerosing cholangitis. These specialists also work with transplant surgeons and other experts to provide a seamless patient experience in the Mayo Clinic Transplant Center. A Hepatobiliary Clinic coordinates medical care with research.
Specialists in pediatric hepatology at Mayo Clinic's campus in Minnesota are experienced in accurately diagnosing children who have liver diseases.
For appointments or more information, call the Central Appointment Office at 507-538-3270 7 a.m. to 6 p.m. Central time, Monday through Friday or complete an online appointment request form.
See information on patient services at the three Mayo Clinic locations, including transportation options and lodging.
Mayo Clinic researchers were among the first to describe primary sclerosing cholangitis. Other research done at Mayo has helped to refine diagnostic tests, improve treatment and assess the results of liver transplants for people with primary sclerosing cholangitis. Mayo Clinic researchers also developed mathematical models to help physicians predict long-term survival for people with primary sclerosing cholangitis.
Researchers at Mayo Clinic are currently studying the use of the fluorescence in situ hybridization (FISH) test in the diagnosis of bile duct cancer in people with primary sclerosing cholangitis. Another study is looking at genetic predisposition to primary sclerosing cholangitis.
Basic research related to primary sclerosing cholangitis and other liver diseases is conducted in the following Mayo Clinic laboratories:
See a list of publications by Mayo Clinic doctors on primary sclerosing cholangitis on PubMed, a service of the National Library of Medicine.
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General Assembly: Statement by Ambassador Braun at the Intergovernmental Negotiations on Security Council reform
Mr. Chairman,
I have the honor to speak on behalf of the G4 countries Brazil, India, Japan and Germany.
As we have reached the final session of yet another round of the Intergovernmental Negotiations, we wish to thank you for your able steering of the process.
As for today's topic, the "cross-cutting issues", we wish to refer to the suggestions included in section 6 of the non-paper submitted by the President of the General Assembly. The provision for a review in particular, which also finds a basis in Art. 109 of the UN Charter, deserves further scrutiny. We believe that a review could help address some of the concerns raised by member states related to an expansion of Council membership and other reform aspects. We are confident that we will be able to reach convergence on the scope and timing of such a review if and when we finally start genuine, text-based negotiations.
Mr. Chairman,
This also leads us to more general concluding thoughts on this 10th round of IGN discussions. Most importantly, of course, is the question as to whether we have made any progress. Having once again discussed the five reform clusters, have we in any way come closer to achieving an early reform of the Security Council?
Certainly - the discussions were again lively, and we may even have heard a new nuance here and there. But overall, one cannot but feel a sense of déjà vu. Having gone through the exact same exercise in 2009, you, Mr. Chairman, wrote to us back then that "member states … have now looked at the five key issues from virtually all possible different angles."
Today, five years later, the situation seems hardly any different. And this is the crux of the matter. No matter how long we discuss, no matter how often we meet, from which angle we look at the issues, there will be no progress until we have a concrete text as a basis on which we can embark on a genuine give-and-take negotiation process.
The fact that this has yet to happen is, of course, not for lack of trying - at least on the side of G4 and many other reform-oriented groups and member states.
Colleagues will recall that in late 2009, 135 member states joined the G4 in requesting from you, Mr. Chairman, a text with options that would serve as a basis for negotiations. We are grateful that you responded to this call with a comprehensive compilation text. You have also undertaken to streamline the text to serve as the basis for real negotiations, instead of being simply a mere listing of each and every position on every issue. The G4 and numerous others welcomed this initiative to arrive at a real negotiation text. Nevertheless, some member states demand to this very day that consensus be required for such a step. Although they represent a minority view, they wish to exercise a veto over the entire process. And this in spite of the fact that they themselves had tabled a resolution affirming a 2/3rds majority and not consensus as the rule of the game.
Colleagues will also recall that you, Mr. Chairman, made useful proposals in July 2012, on how to reenergize the IGN process. You suggested further focused discussions, you asked the membership to task you with drafting a negotiating text, and you suggested that a high-level meeting could be held to increase political buy-in. The G4 and many others welcomed your proposals as result-oriented and forward-looking. But again, there was strong opposition from the same small group, and the momentum that your letter had created grinded to a halt.
And we of course all remember that last year, the President of the General Assembly, our distinguished colleague Ambassador John Ashe, took the initiative to establish an advisory group and submit a non-paper meant to guide the IGN discussions. The G4 and many other member states supported this initiative as a way to focus discussions and identify convergences. Again, the same few delegations chose to oppose the initiative taken by the President from the very start and categorically rejected any output.
Mr. Chairman, distinguished colleagues,
Let us take a step back and look for a moment at what we are really talking about. We are not talking about the imposition of one reform model on the membership. We are not talking about the need for the entire membership to agree to one proposal submitted by any one group.
What we are talking about here in the IGN is the need to finally start a process, based on a text that allows for a genuine give-and-take among delegations. How the Council will be reformed will ultimately be decided by a vote in the General Assembly.
The G4, along with the overwhelming majority of member states, is committed to progress, not the status quo. Is it too much to ask that the Chairman provide a negotiation text as is common practice in numerous other UN negotiation processes? Is it really too much to ask the Chairman to provide even a mere summary of the discussions that accurately reflects the mood of the house?
Mr. Chairman,
The G4 countries have full confidence in you to produce an objective summary of the discussion that is fully in line with your valued approach as IGN Chairman: impartial to individual positions but partial to progress.
Not surprisingly, there is loud opposition from a few well-known colleagues to such a summary. What we have yet to hear is a convincing reason. It is simply not enough to categorically reject any attempt to move the process forward. Subjecting the IGN process to artificial consensus requirements is not tenable. It only serves the narrow national interests of a few, not the interest of this organization. What it does, is to create artificial delays with the sole purpose of ensuring that we discuss Security Council reform ad infinitum. This would mean that we accept a process that step by step diminishes the relevance of the United Nations. This cannot be the objective of any member state.
If we have reached a point where the mere stating of objective facts is being denounced as divisive and detrimental to the IGN process, one may as well put into question the validity of the entire process. After all, we do not come together, year after year, meeting after meeting, to simply agree to disagree.
The G4 countries, and I am sure the overwhelming number of member states, want to finally move this process forward to a decisive outcome in 2015.
It is in this spirit, that we would like to offer some of the observations that we, the G4, have made during this last IGN round:
First and foremost, we once again applaud General Assembly President Ashe and the members of his advisory Group for their valuable initiative and input in the form of the non-paper submitted by President Ashe in December last year. As we have seen during our discussions, the non-paper has helped focus attention on concrete proposals, has served as a useful reference, and has helped to highlight where convergence can be achieved. Other than those who objected to the paper before it was even drafted, we believe that the non-paper should thus remain on the table as one of the key reference documents that guide the IGN process.
On categories of membership, we once again saw a clear and undisputable majority speaking in favor of expansion in both categories, new non-permanent and new permanent members. We have heard this from the African Group, the L.69 group, CARICOM, the Arab Group, the G4, numerous other member states from the WEOG, Eastern European Group and the Asia-Pacific Group and a majority of permanent members. You yourself, Mr. Chairman, concluded twice, in 2009 and 2012, that the majority of delegations taking the floor had demanded an expansion in both categories. This round of discussion has not only confirmed your assessments - it further strengthened them, with CARICOM and the Arab Group having since then added their voices.
There are of course others - a dozen or so – who have spoken out against new permanent members. Based on their national interest, this position may be understandable. But this does not mean that the entire membership must agree, let alone share their interest - however vocally promoted. As our South African colleague reminded us recently, the membership is not evenly divided in half – one half for, the other half against new permanent members. There is a clear majority view and a clear minority view. And as our distinguished Brazilian colleague has repeatedly reminded us, in democratic processes a decision is formed around the majority position.
Regarding the veto, we felt an overwhelming sense of dissatisfaction from the floor with its current use. In this connection, we saw broad support for initiatives addressing the use of the veto in certain circumstances. The question of whether the veto-right should be expanded to new permanent members saw two views. A large group, including Africa, the L.69, CARICOM, and the G4, are of the view that as a question of principle, new permanent members should have the same rights and responsibilities as the current P5. Other member states object to expanding the veto to new permanent members. The G4 proposal for new permanent members not to exercise the right until a decision is taken within the framework of a review, could provide a way for compromise.
On regional representation, we all agreed that the Council needed to better reflect the geopolitical realities of the 21st Century. We also agreed that the Council membership should be more representative, particularly of the developing world, to enhance its legitimacy and effectiveness. We saw convergence around the view that Article 23 of the UN Charter should serve as the yardstick, referring to the contributions of member states to peace and security, as well as to adequate geographic distribution. This would also apply to the election of new permanent members.
On size and working methods, we saw an overwhelming majority for an expanded Council membership in the mid-twenties. Here, the non-paper provided by the President is particularly illustrative: All models proposed foresee a membership in the mid-twenties as the best way to meet the criteria set out in Article 23 of the Charter and thus make the Council more representative and effective. There was also broad agreement that the Council's working methods would need to be improved so that an expanded Council would remain efficient in addressing the challenges of the 21st Century.
On the relationship between the Council and the General Assembly, there was a clear understanding that the respective roles and responsibilities of these two principle organs should be respected. Members stressed that it is in all our best interest if the relationship between the two was marked by a spirit of cooperation, not competition. Again, pertinent proposals as to how this can be achieved are contained in the PGA's non-paper.
In conclusion, Mr. Chairman, distinguished colleagues,
We are confident that convergence on all these issues could be achieved once we finally start real negotiations. The positions are known, the issues are clear. Fifteen years after the Millennium Summit and ten years after the 2005 Outcome Document, the overwhelming majority among us wants progress, while only a few still prefer the status quo. What is required now from all of us is the political will to allow for genuine, text-based negotiations to start.
We are confident that a summary provided on this round of the IGN will provide an objective and constructive input towards this goal. Most importantly, it will help us to finally fulfil the mandate given by the World Leaders in 2000 to make the UN fit for the 21st Century and beyond.
I thank you, Mr. Chairman.


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Thursday, April 5, 2012
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The Chrome Browser and Chromebook
Angel Brady
Angel's presentation slide deck is available here.
A laptop that only takes seconds to boot up and runs one application, a browser, which in turn offers applications on the web. A laptop that has no ability to save files locally or even download software, because it's all done in the cloud. A browser that uses apps that allow you to interact with different types of media, including rotating 3D models, without having to install plug-ins. A browser that has language translation built into it. We just described Google's Chromebook and Chrome Browser.
In this Productive Scholar, the Chromebook and the Chrome browser will be discussed in terms of their roles in education and the Chromebook will be demonstrated. Come see what is so revolutionary about the way the Chromebook operates differently from other laptops, and find out why Google's Chrome browser became the world's most popular web browser, if only for a day (http://techcrunch.com/2012/03/21/chrome-beats-internet-explorer-thanks-bric/).
About the speaker:
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MBA News
France is now drawing more international MBA candidates
If you've considered doing an MBA in Europe, you've probably thought about France. According to a research, made by FIND MBA, world's fifth-largest economy is now drawing more international MBA candidates and this positive trend will continue in the following years. There are many good reasons to finish your business education there and we will present you shortly the most important ones.
First of all, France is home of INSEAD, HEC Paris, and EMLYON - three business schools that cracked the Financial Times list of top-100 MBA programs globally. On the other hand behind only the USA and UK, France has more internationally accredited MBA programs than any other country in the world. Ten business schools in France are triple-accredited, meaning they have been accredited by all three major international accreditation agencies: AACSB, AMBA, and EQUIS. Along with INSEAD, HEC Paris, and EMLYON, these other "triple crown" schools include Grenoble, EDHEC, Toulouse, Rouen, Audencia Nantes, Reims, and BEM Bordeaux.
It's good to know that all these schools offer their MBA programs completely in English, so you don't have to worry too much if your French isn't very good. Another potential draw is that most accredited MBA programs in France only take a year to complete, upping their appeal to prospective international students.
Also, in the last few years, more and more French companies are hiring foreigners to internationalize their workforce. For example, about 40 percent of INSEAD MBA alumni working in France are non-French nationals, with half being non-Europeans, and tend to join a variety of French companies. We should not forget that France is home to some of the world's largest companies in key industries, such as finance (BNP Paribas and AXA), aerospace (EADS), luxury (LVMH and PPR), tourism (Accor), automotive (Renault-Nissan, PSA, and Michelin), construction (Vinci and Lafarge), energy (GDF-Suez and Total), and retail (Carrefour) and an MBA done in a French business school can give you many excellent perspectives and enticing possibilities that come with studying in the world's fifth-largest economy.
There are a handful of accredited French business schools offering highly-specific concentrations catering to these and other established French industries, such as the Wine and Spirits MBA at BEM Bordeaux, the Aerospace MBA at Toulouse Business School, the International Luxury Management at ESSEC Business School, or the fashion-focused programs at the Conservatoire National des Arts et Metiers or MODSPE.
And last, but not least, let's not forget the appeal of living in French cities like Paris, Nantes, Bordeaux, or Grenoble – the same landscapes, culture, and lifestyle that makes the country the world's number-one tourist destination.
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AMES, Iowa — An Algona native and Iowa 4-H alumni, Kris Fish Kuhlmann, is the Iowa 4-H Foundation's new executive director. She brings her skills in leadership, business and relationship-building to the organization that provides funding support to the 4-H programs across the state.
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The skills that 4-Hers learn: critical thinking, leadership, communication and social skills, are key components that Fish Kuhlmann will use as she builds upon the Iowa 4-H Foundation's reputation as one of the best of its kind in the country. "We are very fortunate to have found and selected a candidate that met all of the search committee's criteria and then some," Mortimer said.
"We are excited to have the opportunity to provide funding for Iowa 4-H youth programming and believe our new executive director will boldly build the foundation's resources." Mortimer said. "Kris and our team will bring an enthusiastic approach to raising the money needed to continue to grow 4-H throughout our state."
"This is an exciting opportunity!" Fish Kuhlmann said. "I am honored to be associated with the Iowa 4-H Foundation, the ideal model for helping 4-H kids throughout the country. I look forward to connecting with current and potential contributors to the Iowa 4-H Foundation."
Fish Kuhlmann, who currently lives in Lenexa, Kan., and is relocating to Ames, has established three independent businesses and has experience in human resources management. She is currently a Senior Loan Officer at Mortgage Lenders of America in Overland Park, Kan. Fish Kuhlmann has an education degree from Iowa State, and has also studied at Drake University and Webster University in Kansas City.
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Re: Waiting for Motivation
mhatter106 wrote:I'd have to agree here. While I think it's cool, the only connection it has with "Motivation" is that there's "No motivation"... Which is kind of not "Motivation".
Nice design though, although I wonder a bit how it would look on a shirt for every wear.
As mentioned above, I think this fits very nicely in Woot's specification of "what to do when faced with a complete lack of motivation entirely." Up here in Oregon it's a bit chilly for a t-shirt most of the year so I think it will look great with an open plaid button-up.
Re: Persistence
I read it more a s persistence, beauty is revealed to those who wait for it.
I'd like this shirt more if it was a maze.
But as just a doodle it doesn't really hit me.
Or maybe if it was in a corner/edges and the middle was taken up by something boring. History, probably.
(I'd say math, but math is far more interesting)
paigeg wrote:This messes with my brain so much! I keep playing 'find the dragon' in the layout and topography of the continents. Wierd and cool.
Me too! Makes me wish one was actually in there (other than that little guy in the ocean).
paigeg wrote:Lol! And about the 'under the bus' comment: At least you made up for it with the Daisy.
I thought this also when I saw the daisy shirt My wife also loves daisies. Now I'm cheering for bacon and she's cheering for flowers....
thatrobert wrote:Thanks all for the nice comments and keeping this in the fog over the weekend. BTW, it doesn't work as a maze -- I'm pretty sure it'd actually be too easy since there is plenty of gaps.
Yeah, when I saw it my first though was. "Good Lord, how long would it take to run that Dungeon?"
Re: Sit, Zombie Dog, Sit (resub)
Do zombies count as pop culture? Not trying to tell anyone off or anything. Just seems like with the popularity of zombies in recent years it would be considered pop culture.
Re: Face The Challenge
I love it.
Re: I want to fly
Very nice.
Thirdbase9 wrote:Rejected this will be, in 4 score 7 hours from now.
Best post ever.
Re: Daisy
Daisies are my favorite too. I hope this prints. It would be an awesome yoga shirt
Re: Go Kitty Go!
I told my husband this reminded me of Dune. He mentioned that the mice really need a second fish to effectively steer him.
I knew there were good reasons why I married him.
draco18s wrote:I'd like this shirt more if it was a maze.
But as just a doodle it doesn't really hit me.
Or maybe if it was in a corner/edges and the middle was taken up by something boring. History, probably.
(I'd say math, but math is far more interesting)
That was my original idea -- to have some evidence of homework in the upper left corner. Maybe a spelling test. Of course with no text allowed that killed that.
bounty42 wrote:Yeah, when I saw it my first though was. "Good Lord, how long would it take to run that Dungeon?"
Ha! That'd be a fun alternate version -- designing dungeons while bored in class. I did that too!
lap10 wrote:I told my husband this reminded me of Dune. He mentioned that the mice really need a second fish to effectively steer him.
I knew there were good reasons why I married him.
Also, obviously, we both love this shirt
piwerx wrote:Forget it, that was snarky, I like it.
Just an initial perception.
Actually, my first thought was also "Why is there an apple growing on a maple tree?"
We delight in the beauty of the butterfly but rarely admit the change it has gone through to achieve that beauty.
~ Maya Angelou
Re: Jump For It
Today I got really unmotivated. I had too many bills comming and any money to pay for it. I can't complaint about other aspects of my life, but money is really an issue.
Anyway, all this is just to say that I came here to watch the run and your design really deserves to win this! Congrats, you're very talented, Patrick. GMV for sure.
OCH! MISTLETOE FRENCHING? GROSS! I love teh fat kittehs! He looks just like my Clyde!
Re: Cruller's Gym
I have a friend that loves crullers... this would be an excellent gift for her.
Re: The Birthplace of Inspiration
Absolutely motivating and absolutely gorgeous.
Re: Rumbling in the Tumbling
Nothing is cuter than cats wearing winter clothes.
I LOVE your cats! I have one of your shirts, the one with all the cats piled under the umbrella, and it's my favorite! I wear it all the time!
xninjagrrl wrote:Ahh no longer in the fog? So not fair.
Why does this happen to every shirt I've wanted to buy lately... its been like half a year since I bought something from a derby (I think it was the Solid/Liqud/Gas dino shirt).
Re: Slim Hopes
Haha, it's funny because it looks like he's trying sooo hard to get back up the hot list and into the fog
Re: Erasmous in the lead
After posting Following in Daddy's footsteps, I then had many more ideas for motivational designs, from 'knucks' to climbing a tree for fruit, as in Eve...then I remembered Erasmous, the fearless, hope yall like him.
So cute!!!
I don't know how you do it. I thought I just loved all your shirts because they were cute, then silly-witty-clever, and now here comes one that is smart-clever and BEAUTIFUL. Your talent continually captures my attention.
And my vote. +1.
Mavyn wrote:I read it more a s persistence, beauty is revealed to those who wait for it.
That's what I thought, too... waiting and waiting, but what comes is worth the wait. Like this shirt.
Re: Life Blood
Is there a way for you to remove this submission so the votes get directed to that one? I'd hate to have it end up lower just because the votes get split.
draco18s wrote:Me too! Makes me wish one was actually in there (other than that little guy in the ocean).
Ditto! If this doesn't end up in the fog, I'd love to see it re-subbed sometime with the continents made of a (or more than 1) dragon.
Either way, it's a really cool (and true) depiction of what motivates.
Can't figure out why this isn't fogged. It's gorgeous and inspirational.
rawrrbunneh wrote:Loving this. Is it inspired by actual audio?
Thanks! , I guess someway it is since I was listening ambient music when working on it.
Thanks to all for your support. (o;
very pretty, but, would like to see it higher up, and smaller. that is just me, csrry on.
You get my vote because of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdUUx5FdySs&ob=av3n
Re: RUN!
is there any way that i can vote for this multiple times? this is incredible.
The more I see this shirt, the more I love it. I hope it prints. My friend's birthday is coming up, and I bet he (like myself) would appreciate the colors and concept. I'd love for this to eventually land on a hoodie... ♥
j5 wrote:It's the red cross symbol, not a plus sign.
Did you notice how you used the word "symbol"?
rockymike wrote:Upon seeing this, my wife did say "you should put C*O*F*F*E*E across the bottom." A great idea, but would violate both contest rules.
how funny, and 4077
devium wrote:This a very RamyB-ish design. While I don't hate it, I do feel like if it were his, you all would be blasting him for unoriginality and not being on topic. Just sayin.
And not to sound pro-Ramy or anything but I agree with what you said here. I expected this design to be Ramy's when I clicked in and I don't think you're wrong with people's slanted views. Heh.
As someone who has filled notebook after notebook with similar creations, I had no problem whatsoever figuring out what this shirt had to do with motivation. A terrific job!
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