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wolfchik wrote:i love the write-up. would have loved the design -if- it had only been the one penguin, the others are unnecessary and just kill it for me.
the penguin in the middle?... i can relate, 'cause i OWN the mohawk and the big headphones. what better way to get people to leave me alone ;)
You're right, having just that mohawked penguin centered and larger would be pretty sweet...
>herp derp not original
What is these days
This is one of the few shirts that come through here I would actually buy just for those pimp headphones he's wearing
leftielespaul wrote:My, you guys ARE a bunch of haters aren't you. Let me be a rare voice here and say CONGRATULATIONS, ramyb.
I absolutely agree. My girlfriend loves his shirts and his art and as long as he keeps winning, we'll keep buying.
I took one look at this shirt when I got up (at 3:30am, mind you) and it made me smile first thing in the morning. That alone is worth $10 to me.
MBrulla wrote:Take that ramy haters!
This writeup redeems ramy's artistic integrity and flys his flag high above those so-called "good" designs.
I knew this forum would be dripping with hate but I have to admit I bought two because it fits my friend who moved to the other side of the country to a t. He loves penguins and metal and funny enough his nickname is Rami. Congrats for getting $20 bucks out of me for sentimental reasons.
Edit: Also moar black shirts pleze! I own 2-3 of every other color shirt but never feel bad about buying another black shirt.
Assassin15 wrote:Wow, I never ever would have thought of that one as being similar at all. You haters go a bit too far sometimes.
Seems to me that someone who calls themself Assassin should not be calling others haters.
Oh wait assassin's don't hate, they just kill for money. Sorry my bad.
Love it! Not the shirt mind you but the fact it won causing all the high brows to completely lose their flip their berets. Well I guess I know what JadenKale, adder and jmmbell will be doing today.
Have you ever read a novel in which the author describes a series of emotions passing across a character's face? And have you ever wondered whether it would really be possible to identify said emotions outside print, if the human face is really so mobile that one could "read" each distinct emotion or thought on the face of, say, a highly skilled actor?
Well, if I could have videoed my face, you would clearly have read:
Expression 1: Immediate recognition from the thumbnail
Expression 2: Shock (aka "Are you kidding me?")
Expression 3: Frustration
Expression 4: Bitter disappointment
Expression 5: Resignation
It was kind of like Kubler-Ross's stages of grief. I could probably even shoehorn some bargaining in there somewhere....
JadenKale wrote:No need for beating about the body if you understand my positioning. It's not a hatred based on someone printing well, repeatedly. Hell, if that were the case, I'd hate TGentry and I don't by any stretch of the imagination (be it pre- or post- woot staff ) or any of the vast majority of whom I talk to outside of woot's forums as well. This is so obviously 'Imposter' with a touch of 'Music is Life' that they look like one-trick ponies.
It really is a wonder, if they are as great as everyone brags when they print or put something up in the derbies (open to interpretation or not) that they aren't printing all over the place. Hmmm, funny about that. I don't see them elsewhere other than woot. And while you can defend that with, "well, so-and-so also hasn't printed elsewhere..." you really do have to wonder why they won't get printed by places that hand out bigger payouts.
You really come across as bitter and jealous. Within a half an hour you already had four posts bemoaning this shirt. Who cares if he had been printing elsewhere. Let's keep it in perspective here. It's a shirt...it's a democratic process...he wins a few derbies a year which ends up being a very small percentage. Deep breaths....serenity now. This too shall pass.
new derby rules
No zombies, star wars, turtles, penguins, cats, kittens, bunnies, pandas, or koalas (because koalas are bound to be the next one exploited for funny/cuteness)
and gratz Ramyb
that is all...you may now return to your regularly scheduled comment reading
Of course I ordered a penguin shirt. Thank you shirt.woot!
More penguin shirts in the future, please.
My woot shirts:
A Peculiar Discovery, Imposter, A Cold Sneeze, Random, Cooler Than You
See what you get for complaining about Imposter? Now there are two of them. And that means they can multiply! None of us are safe.
::runs screaming in the streets::
I find it oddly ironic.
Hipster penguin designed by "sell-out" artist.
Greatest collab yet!
Don't wear this shirt: While blaming us for the failures of the democratic process.
Well then can we blame you for the democratic process itself?
today is another great reason to allow for votes + editorial input in deciding what get's printed.
just sayin'
Well we can talk all day about the so-called "Democratic" process, but it doesn't take away the fact that anyone could be voting. Who is to say that there aren't multiple sock puppets doing the voting?
I know, I know, then let the other artists register their own army of sock puppets to do their bidding, but is that what we really want Woot! to become?
Anyone who follows the reckoning week-in, week out, knows within the final hour, certain shirts will become the benefactors of a large number of oddly named Wooters. Coincidence?
I still don't see the democratic process in place here, more than I see someone (or a group of people) who know how to game the system.
Just my 2 cents, though.
Don't they sell this shirt at Hot Topic?
Well...unfortunately, I really like penguins...like a lot. And I have always hated Impostor with a growing passion as I watched it always cling to the Reckoning finest. But only because it was a dumb shirt, not for anything it represented.
So now...I am in for one, because a lined up group of chibi penguins on a shirt is something I've never had the beauty to own before. No bunnies or turtles...just penguins.
So...yeah. I guess woot? Either make a new rule the repeat winners can't enter or get rid of penguins next time, but give us back kitties. They don't seem to win as much as the other ones you banned. Because I am always into this site for both cute (and Jatravartid) AND beautiful (and awesome) with the occasionally sneaky pop culture reference...
I will not beat a dead horse...
I will not beat a dead horse...
I will not beat a dead horse...
I will not beat a dead horse...
I will not beat a dead horse...
I will not beat a dead horse...
what did I say?
Someone needs to make a penguin-themed "haters gonna hate" macro for these threads. stat!
As a former "not understanding the hate" person I implore those stuck in that state to do a little research. Look at the full discussion on Imposter, check out some reckoning discussions. It may all be circumstantial mumbo jumbo and conspiracy theories but this is not a court of law, it's shirt.woot!
My *facepalm* this morning had absolutely nothing to do with the derivative nature of this shirt.
Did someone really argue that this is derivative of Music is Life because it kinda-sorta uses the same, generic, overused, overworn-by-hipsters headphones?
So you do a google search for "punk penguin" (the two prevailing elements in this design), and look what happens to come up:
This is also for sale, as a shirt, from this site. Aside from the whole Imposter angle, duzzat qualify as "similar shirts exist"?
derkis wrote:He can keep doing what he's doing, but ramyb is to shirt.woot what Thomas Kinkade is to fine art.
Oh! Also, Thomas Kinkade likes to get drunk, loudly and obnoxiously ogle private parts, and pee on stuff! (I think everyone needs to know this when buying a Kinkade.)
My 5 year old nephew over the past few months has become addicted to penguins. I don't know where it came from, I don't know how it happened. He's got a million penguin pillow pets, and for his birthday I got him a 2 foot tall stuffed penguin.
My brother will love me.
Even though the kid mainly wears Sabres, Mets, Mario, and Transformers clothes (literally, one of those four things is on every article of clothing he owns) I will purchase this for him for his birthday. Then I'll explain what a walkman is. Then I'll feel really old.
You people really whine alot...
Obviously people voted for this shirt. If you don't want it, don't buy it. It really is amazingly simple.
Woot.com's blatant disregard for their own rule for disqualification, ie Similar Shirt Exists, is also what angers me. I have nothing against Ramyb, but this shirt design is not unique.
People keep repeating that it's the democratic process that has allowed this shirt to win, while, in reality, it should never have been allowed to remain in the contest in the first place and THAT is the ONLY issue that truly has significant merit at all.
Man, I'm SO glad this printed! I think it's one of the most visually appealing shirts I've seen here in a long time. The colors, the movement, the creativity... Awesome.
Plus it's nice to see him win a derby for a change... It seems like most of the time he has some really cool designs that sadly just get overlooked.
Wait... Two Turntables and a Gramophone DIDN'T print? No OdysseyRoc love?
OH... it's just another ramyb penguin shirt?
Nevermind then.
getshighoncocacola wrote:After all the people who were seriously frustrated with the repitition and no doubt the countless tattles on it? After even the woot write-up guy flat out says it's 'eeriely similar'?
Yes, because real artists never re-do the same thing over and over.
amh wrote:This is what happens when you forget to ban Penguins!
Next derby please just ban animals all-together to get a really challenging and fun derby.
The result will just be a person in a cute bunny/turtle/penguin/etc costume.
wolfgaidin wrote:Woot.com's blatant disregard for their own rule for disqualification, ie Similar Shirt Exists, is also what angers me. I have nothing against Ramyb, but this shirt design is not unique.
By your logic, Ramyb should get a lifetime ban from drawing cartoon penguins.
quantamm wrote:Yes, because real artists never re-do the same thing over and over.
Van Gogh was not submitting multiple self-portriats to contests on a website where the website's own rules should reject all but the first self-portrait.
wolfgaidin wrote:Van Gogh was not submitting multiple self-portriats to contests on a website where the website's own rules should reject all but the first self-portrait.
bluejester wrote:True, especially since they've done it before.
What drives me insane is that this shirt is 10 times more similar to Imposter than that one was to the other carnivorous rabbit shirt, but that was rejected and this wasn't.
I'm sad that I haven't been able to follow the derbies lately... I miss things like this and end up being totally shocked on a Friday morning.
quantamm wrote:By your logic, Ramyb should get a lifetime ban from drawing cartoon penguins.
No, Ramyb can draw whatever he likes and submit it. Woot should reject any designs that similarly exist, as per their own rules, for him and any other artist.
Again, to make my point completely clear, Woot is blatently ignoring their own rules for qualifying submissions.
I actually have nothing against Ramyb and, in fact, own two of his shirt designs. The fact that it is his design that has exposed Woot's disregard for their own policies is quite incendental.
If I could draw decent looking pumpkins that everyone loved for derbies and I was winning them and making money, I would be drawing pumpkins every week.
The designs are decently done, they obviously show that Ramy has talent, and people love them. Imposter is STILL in the top 20 after many weeks, so people ARE buying them.
Congrats Ramy. Ignore the people that think they're too good for a shirt, just because it's not some abstract artistic expression of the most original idea in the world (which all the other prints obviously are).
Wow... shocking that this won... just shocking
Also, that writeup is effin hilarious. Well done there Woot, funny stuff.
Doobie1357 wrote:You people really whine alot...
Obviously people voted for this shirt. If you don't want it, don't buy it. It really is amazingly simple.
Except we would like the opportunity to congratulate and buy a shirt from a deserving artist who actually put some thought and creativity into their design, and who would have been in third place had this shirt been rejected.
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text: So i was talking to trey last night. About religion and other stuff. As you guys know i am a christian but before you stop there let me say something. My beliefs aren't traditional. I read the bible yes. But not all the time. But i cannot help but to question things. In the bible it says if you don't believe in Jesus and accept hims as your savior your going to hell right? but why is that. dose this mean everyone in the world is going to hell because they either don't believe in Jesus are the christian god? there is so many faiths in this world. Some don't even believe in a afterlife. Why is it only those of the christian faith get to go to heaven. I just don't see it. There was faiths before Judaism. Christianity and Islam. Before the christian god was even mentioned. Dose this mean they automatically go to hell? i really cannot grasp the idea of everyone going to hell. It dose not fit in the puzzle. Like trey said if you think about it everyone is going to hell. Because what faith is right and which is wrong? It really don't add up it just don't. My self i believe in a supreme being yes. And i prey to him. But who really is god? who is jesus. people know god in there own way. Some call him different names. what is the afterlife. what is hell. is it really a place of torment.Or is it a place for the dead to rest. What is heaven. Is it a place to be in peace and be with your loved one. I don't see it. There is so many cases of near death experiences. I just watched a video not to long ago on a study of ndes. They hooked the dead person up. and watched the brain waves. He was brain dead. But as soon as his blood pressure went to zero. His brain waves spiked for three minutes. Which is what they think of as a nde. As from i have read many many times. Ndes only last 3 mins. So then what? What happens after. Do we just rot. Are we reborn into a new life. Are is there a spirit world where we all go :which is what i believe: hell very well could be real. Same with heaven. But i think the bible got it a little wrong. There is still places in this world. Where they have not even heard of god. Nor Jesus. So i guess they go straight to hell right? any ways that is enough i don't want other to change there beliefs. and i could keep writing this post but i will leave here. if i am wrong on what i am typing then may the lord forgive me.

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when i swap over to riding on the bus in May 2013, my 'commute' by bus will be $5/day. 3 days a week. the company will give me $50/mo for not driving. AND i will have save paying $150/mo in potential parking fees.
so for me, its going to be a no-brainer to ride the bus.


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Lol, I used to park my Mustang far out in public parking lots, like the grocery store. But not to that extent at work!
Juan is kind of a jerk eh?
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Lol, I used to park my Mustang far out in public parking lots, like the grocery store. But not to that extent at work!
Juan is kind of a jerk eh?
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|I can't stand people who double park. I will ALWAYS purposefully squeeze in to block them from being able to get into their car without hitting mine. And I always snap a picture of the parking and license plate when I get out so I have evidence of how they parked.
fun and games with the new car
I have discovered that my new car has provided a endless source of entertainment at work. To Whit: Juan Diaz. Now Juan is a very nice, very soft spoken guy. When he first started working here he drove an old pickup that he adored. I don't know if the PU died or if he and his wife decided to downsize when she got pregnant but the beloved PU vanished. The end result being that he started driving in her vw bug.....a vw bug his wife had painted pink. Not any pink mind you.... PINK. The car looked like some poor soul had puked bepto bismol on it. Repeatedly. And Juan hated that car. He never came right and said he hated it, and he never actually drove it off a cliff, but plainly, he wasn't happy.
So has joyful day arrives when Baby is old enough to go to daycare, mum goes back to work and they can get a new car. Juan Drives in 'THE CAR" A solid black dodge challenger....a modern muscle car. He adores this car; he loves this car. The tires are always shiny; the exterior is always sparking. There have been romance books written about less passionate men love. Juan parks it on the far side of the parking lot away from all the lesser cars so he won't get dings, and several times a day I see him rush out to wipe off a bird dropping or a bit of dust.
Now I have a new car, too and I don't want it dinged by lesser co-workers with non-new cars anymore than Juan wants his car damaged, so I'd been arriving early enough to park it on the far side, next to a wall beside Zondra, who always parks way over to the opposite side of the parking slot. Then my burst of early morning energy departs and I arrive just in time to lose my usual parking spot, so I look around until I see Juan's car flexing it's muscles in the second slot from the last, where no one else ever parks. I'm no dummy. I park in the slot next to him between his challenger and the light post. I'm utterly safe. Even if Juan hated my guts I'm safe since he's not about to risk dinging his car by hitting my car with his door. That was Thursday.
Today I pull into the lot and see Juan in his usual space....except he has pulled slightly over the white painted line. Now if there is one thing a passive aggressive recognizes, it's a hint from another passive aggressive. Naturally, I couldn't resist. I parked next to him. Juan walks past me about an hour later and I can just SEE him grinding his teeth. I went out at lunch.....and he's moved his car. Not just a slot over, he's moved it all the way across the frickin' parking lot and is parked diagonally over 2 parking spaces. I considered following him but decided that would be just mean.
Now the thing I can't figure out is if Juan is:
A-that paranoid that I'll hit his car with my car
B- miffed because my car is in HIS car's personal space or
C- is just afraid the Juke will give his big bad muscle car girly cooties.
Maybe I'll park next to him again after all....just to find out.
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text: This profile takes a look back at Katarina Witt's competitive career (1978-1988, with a brief comeback during the 1993/94 season) Witt was born on the 3rd December 1965 in Staaken, which was at that time in East Germany. Her commute to school took her past the Kuchwald ice arena, where she became entranced with figure skating. She then persuaded her parents to allow her take up the sport. She said: "I made my way out to the middle of the ice and I remember thinking, 'This is for me'" (Katarina Witt by Evelyn B. Kelly). Spotting her talent and promise, Witt was then recruited by the Kinder- und Jugendsportschule, a special school for children with sporting ability, and she represented the club, SC Karl-Marx-Stadt. Jutta Müller then started coaching her in 1977, and would remain her coach throughout her career. Whilst free skating was Witt's strength, compulsories were a definite weakness. She said that she "found the compulsories, which were somewhat slower, really boring. Accordingly, for many years, my performance in the compulsories was somewhat average, and the short freestyle and the freestyle became my biggest strengths...... Throughout my entire amateur career, the short program was my greatest strength. Seven elements had to be demonstrated and one single mistake would mercilessly take points away from my score. Yet this enormous pressure helped me to push harder for a maximum performance. The short program is also always a creative challenge for my trainer, Mrs. Müller, and sometimes a provocative one, as well." 1978/79 One of Witt's earliest competitions was the Blue Swords Trophy in 1978:- Blue Swords Trophy 1978 - Gala (The Die Schlümpfe (Smurfs)) Katarina finished 3rd at the East German Championships (Anett Potzsch and Carola Weißenberg were 1st and 2nd respectively), and 14th at the European Championships 1979/80 Witt finished 2nd in the East German Championships behind Anett Pötzsch (but this time, ahead of Carola Weißenberg), and 13th in the European Championships. She then participated in her first World Championships, finishing 10th:- 1980 World Championships - FS 1980/81 Katarina began the season by competing in the NHK Trophy in which she finished 2nd behind Denise Biellmann:- 1980 NHK Trophy - FS Witt then won the East German Championships, and finished 5th at the European Championships. She then finished 5th again at the World Championships:- 1981 World Championships - SP, 1981 World Championships - FS 1981/82 Witt began the season by competing in the Ennia Challenge Cup:- 1981 Ennia Challenge Cup - FS Katarina retained her East German title, and then won the Silver medal at the European Championships (Claudia Kristofics-Binder won the Gold medal):- European Championships - Exhibition Witt finished 2nd at the World Championships behind Elaine Zayak, beating Claudia Kristofics-Binder into third place. Witt would have won the title in terms of her short program and free skate placements, but a 9th placed finish in the compulsories cost her the title:- 1982 World Championships - SP, 1982 World Championships - FS 1982/83 Short Program: Rondò Veneziano Medley, Long Program: Rhapsody in Black Katarina began the season by winning the NHK Trophy, beating Rosalynn Sumners and Tiffany Chin in to 2nd and 3rd place respectively. She then retained her East German title and won the European Championships for the first time:- 1983 European Championships - SP, 1983 European Championships - FS, 1983 European Championships - Gala Following on from her European Championships victory, however, Witt finished a disappointing 4th at the World Championships. Rosalynn Sumners, whom she had beaten earlier in the season at the NHK Trophy, won the World title. Katarina actually won in terms of the combined short program and free skate elements, but an 8th placed finish in the compulsories lost her both a medal and the overall title:- 1983 World Championships - SP, 1983 World Championships - FS 1983/84 Short Program: Czardas (Monti), Long Program: Broadway Show Tunes Medley Witt began the season by winning the Ennia Challenge Cup (defeating Midori Ito on the first of 3 occasions in which she competed against her in a competition in which there were no compulsory figures, just a short and long program - the other 2 being the NHK Trophy 1986 and the NHK Trophy 1987) and Skate Canada:- 1983 Skate Canada - SP, 1983 Skate Canada - FS Katarina next retained both her East German and European titles:- 1984 European Championships - FS Witt followed this up by winning the Olympic title, beating then World Champion, Rosalynn Sumners, into 2nd place. Sumners had entered the Olympic competition as the favourite. However, in the Free Skate, Sumners scaled back 2 of her jumps and Witt won the Gold medal by just one tenth of a point on one judge's scorecard. Katarina later said of her Olympic win: "My greatest opponent at the Olympic Games in Sarajevo in 1984 is the American Figure Skater, Rosalynn Summers. The previous year, she had become the World Champion, I was only in fourth place, behind the two Russian skaters, Kira Iwanowa and Anna Kondraschowa. I laid my foundation with third place in the compulsories and went on to perform flawlessly in the short program, putting me in the lead before the freestyle. It was then a battle between me and Rosalynn during the freestyle, and we decided, for reasons of uncertainty, to omit the relatively risky triple flip. Instead, I would do a double flip in combination with a double axel, and since Rosalynn's jumping capabilities were limited to "two different triples", Mrs. Müller and I were feeling confident. My difficult starting combination, a double Lutz-triple toe-loop went perfectly, but later, my heart stopped, as the triple Salchow only turned out to be a double. That meant that I would have to really concentrate, because I can't afford any more mistakes. The rest of the program was finished without any flaws. I am overjoyed after my performance, that everything went so well, but Rosalynn had not yet gone out on the ice. She can't stand the pressure, and makes several small mistakes. Following her performance, I am pretty certain that I have won. I wait for the score, and almost fall out of my skates, when I read that the Italian judge has given Rosalynn a 6.0 in the B category, and I think, well, I will get the silver. I walk slowly and a little disappointed down the stairs to the dressing room, when some people rush up to congratulate me with hugs. The first is Christopher Dean, who happily informs me, that I have won.":- 1984 Olympics - SP, 1984 Olympics - FS, 1984 Olympics - Exhibition Katarina next added her first World title to her Olympic crown:- 1984 World Championships - FS 1984/85 Short Program: Flamenco Fantasy, Long Program: Broadway Show Tunes Medley Despite being Olympic champion, Katarina decided to continue competitive skating for another quad and to go for another Olympic title. This was the first time a Ladies Olympic champion had done this in almost 50 years, since the days of Sonja Henie. The biggest factor behind her decision was almost certainly the fact that coming from an Eastern Bloc country, there were no opportunities for her in professional skating. Witt retained both her East German and European titles:- 1985 European Championships - LP Katarina then retained her World title:- 1985 World Championships - Compulsories, 1985 World Championships - SP, 1985 World Championships - FS, 1985 World Championships - Exhibition, 1985 World Championships - Medal Ceremony 1985/86 Short Program: Caravan, Long Program: West Side Story During this season, Witt had problems with achillobursitis on her right heel, which proved to be very painful. Nevertheless, she retained both her East German and European titles:- 1986 European Championships - SP, 1986 European Championships - FS However, next, Katarina was unable to retain her World title, beaten into 2nd place by Debi Thomas. Although Witt won the free skate, a 4th placed finish in the short program left her with too much ground to make up and cost her the title. Witt later said of her performance: "In the short program I botched up my jump combination, just as I had at the European Championships the previous month. I don't believe it - the thing I do best is starting to give me trouble. I hope I don't start developing a phobia because of it. I left the ice rink with a crying face, fall to fourth place, and know immediately that gold is out the window for me.":- 1986 World Championships - Compulsories, 1986 World Championships - SP, 1986 World Championships - FS, 1986 World Championships - Exhibition, 1986 World Championships - Medal Ceremony 1986/87 Short Program: In The Mood (Glenn Miller), Long Program: West Side Story Katarina began the season by winning the NHK Trophy, beating Midori Ito into 2nd place:- 1986 NHK Trophy - Short Program, 1986 NHK Trophy - Free Skate Witt again retained both her East German and European titles, winning the European title for a 5th consecutive time (beating Kira Ivanova into 2nd place for the third consecutive time):- 1987 European Championships - FS Katarina then regained the World title, avenging her defeat by Debi Thomas a year earlier by beating Thomas into 2nd Place. However, a poor 5th placed finish in the compulsories by Katarina, had meant that Thomas only needed to finish 2nd in the short and long programs to retain her World title. However, a disastrous 7th place finish in the short program by Thomas, meant that a win in the free skate would give Witt the title. Katarina then produced the best long program performance of her life, landing 5 triples, to win both the free skate and the World title. She later said of her Free Skate: "I...try to relax and bolster myself up. The first triple combination went without batting an eye, the triple Salchow was also good to me, the double axel remembered, too, that it was part of the program, and now came the clincher. I know, that without a triple Rittberger, I won't even be going home with a flower pot. The choreography allows me to get a glimpse of Mrs. Müller, who subtly gives me an encouraging nod, and I can do nothing at this point but take the risk. I dash into the run-up, make my approach, jump, and carry it through. Yippee! The subsequent triple Salchow combination also knows where it belongs, and on the landing of the fifth and last triple, I can hardly keep my mouth closed for joy. During the steps that followed, I spontaneously start singing the text, "I want to be in America". At the end, I was almost in a trance, and feel like I am flying through the program and the spectators are carrying me to the last double axel. Everything turns out right. It was to be the most technically difficult and most worthwhile freestyle performance in my entire career.":- 1987 World Championships - SP, 1987 World Championships - FS, 1987 World Championships - Exhibition, 1987 World Championships - Medal Ceremony 1987/88 Short Program: Jerry's Girls, Long Program: Carmen Both Witt and Thomas chose Carmen as their free program for the 1987/88 season. Hence, their fight for the 1988 Olympic title became known as the 'Battle of the Carmens'. As with the previous season, Witt started her season by competing in the NHK Trophy. Again, she won the event, beating Midori Ito into 2nd place. However, on this occasion, her victory was far more controversial. Witt's Carmen free program was designed to bring out Katarina's artistry. Technically, Ito's free program was stronger, however, than Katarina's, and on that basis, some believe that Ito should have won. Who should have won? That depends on whether you prefer Katarina's superior artistry or the greater technical ability of Ito:- 1987 NHK Trophy - SP, 1987 NHK Trophy - FS Again, Katarina retained her East German and European titles. It was her 6th consecutive European title, which matched a record that had been set by Sonja Henie (in terms of overall European titles, that is now held by Irina Slutskaya with 7, although Witt and Henie retain the record of most consecutive with 6):- 1988 European Championships - FS, Medal Ceremony Next, Katarina became the first female singles skater since Sonja Henie to both retain her Olympic title and win an Olympic title more than once. In her Carmen FS, Witt downgraded her planned triple loop to a double, and therefore only landed 4 triples. However, Thomas landed just 2 triples. Accordingly, Witt won the title, although Liz Manley won the Free Skate. Katarina later said of her win: "I skate my freestyle very early in our group. Before Elizabeth and Debi. Actually, it means more to me to skate after everyone else, when the pressure is the highest. This time I have to show them how it's done. Mrs. Müller, at the side of the rink, put her hand on mine, looked me in the eye, and gave me a mental shove just before I was called out. The bells at the beginning of my music transform me into Carmen immediately. Energetically, I jump my first combination triple toe-loop / double toe-loop, on to the triple Salchow, then the double axel and another triple toe-loop. And almost without breathing. I make up for that. I spend the hard-won 30 seconds flirting with the judges, and not only with the 7 men among them, and "posing" choreographically for the audience. That's unimaginable today! Too bad, really! Peggy Fleming and Dick Button, commentating for ABC, utilize this little "break". Peggy wants to give me a woman-to-woman compliment, and said, "This is the moment in which Katarina attempts to draw in the audience's attention. And her theatrical..." But she doesn't get any further, as Dick finished her sentence in a somewhat brash manner, "there's nothing theatrical about that, it's just posing." If only they knew, that during the "flirting break", my heart almost fell into my costume, because suddenly, I had no more strength in my legs. During the habanera, "Love is a wild bird, which no one can tame, and it is useless to call him, if he doesn't want to come" I feel weak and tired and would prefer to stop. Hello! In front of a million spectators, I can hardly fall asleep on the ice! I realize in the run-up to the triple Rittberger, that I don't have the necessary chutzpah for that, and do a double instead. The following triple Salchow combination went so flawlessly well, I would have loved to have audibly screamed for joy. But for now I am Carmen, and can't very well let out a squeal of delight, while the jealous José is on the verge of giving me a razor sharp death blow. The last double axel is also a success, and I feel that I have given my all for Carmen. Four triple jumps securely demonstrated, every facet played out emotionally and choreographically, and yet I know--"lifeless" at the end, and draped across the ice-"Oh man, nothing has been won yet, and everything is still wide open for Debi". With a heavy heart, relieved for the most part, but still a bit anxious, I get up, and four seconds later, I'm Katarina again....I watch Debi unprovokingly from the athlete's official corner at rink-side. Whenever she is called out, she slaps both hands with her trainer. This time she misses, and I know right away, it's not going to go well for her. She isn't aggressive enough. The first combination goes badly, and she loses her fighting spirit. Afterwards, she has more bad landings. I don't have to wait for the score to know that I have won the "Battle of the Carmens". Back in the dressing room, as I am putting my skates on for the award ceremony, I hear a thundering applause from the stands and my knees start to tremble. Does this mean Elizabeth is in the lead? While two are fighting is she the third with the last laugh? In the media and in our minds, the focus had up to now been on Debi and me, so we never turned to see what was coming up behind us. However, as luck would have it, the audience was extremely excited because on the scoreboard, they could see that Elizabeth had won the silver medal for Canada. For them it was like she had won the gold!":- 1988 Olympics - Compulsories Part 1, 1988 Olympics - Compulsories Part 2, 1988 Olympics - SP, 1988 Olympics - FS, 1988 Olympics - Exhibition, 1988 Olympics - Exhibition (Encore), 1988 Olympics - Medal Ceremony Following on from the Olympics, Katarina retained her World title and then retired:- 1988 World Championships - Compulsories, 1988 World Championships - SP, 1988 World Championships - FS, 1988 World Championships - Medal Ceremony 1993/94 Short Program: Robin Hood, Long Program: Where Have All The Flowers Gone Katarina made a comeback in 1993/94. not with any realistic hopes of winning the 1994 Olympics, but to sample the Olympic experience one last time. By this time, she was well past her best and the sport had moved on technically. She started the season by finishing second in the German Championships to Tanja Szewczenko:- 1994 German Nationals - FS She followed this up by finishing 8th in the European Championships:- 1994 European Championships - SP, 1994 European Championships - FS Katarina's competitive career came to an end with a 7th placed finish at the 1994 Olympics:- 1994 Olympics - SP, 1994 Olympics - FS


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- Aggression (the good, the bad & the ugly) (http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum/aggression-good-bad-ugly/)
- - GSD Growling Issues (http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum/aggression-good-bad-ugly/485858-gsd-growling-issues.html)
GSD Growling Issues
I just got a Rescue female GSD about 2 weeks ago (she is 4 years old), we have a lake with a one mile jogging trail near the house. I take here to the lake twice a day for exercise. She does fine with Bikers, joggers, walkers and even the ducks. There are Dogs behind fences that bark up a storm and my GSD simply ignores them! But when it comes to other dogs and there masters my GSD wants to physically meet the other dog then she starts growling at them! A couple of days ago we were on a park bench giving her water and my GSD snapped at me since I held her back with her collar from getting to the other dog. I want to send her to obedience school problem is there is 10 other dogs in a group and not sure how she will react! How do I correct this behavior?
an obedience school will know how to deal with her around other dogs so dont worry about that
she is amping up and redirecting her frustration on to you and you need to get this under control quickly
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Second what diesel has said. Priority one will be finding a good trainer and working with them. It sounds like she could do a group class. A good trainer will be able to manage her and teach you how to manage. Much of what she needs is boundaries and rules. Getting obedience training in and getting a good relationship going with her will help her focus on you instead of focusing on everything else and getting so amped up that she wants to growl. The redirection is definitely something to bring up to the trainer the first time you meet them so they can give you tips.
Growling GSD
Is she growling to protect me or for some other reason? She seems to be well trained in the Basic commands. I guess the previous owners never walked her or took her anywhere were other dogs were present. Ginger seems to get along with people and even people who are scared to death of her because of her size. I have different people come to the house all the time and she is friendly with everybody.
What is strange is they have a small dog next door and Ginger my GSD never growled at the next door neighbors dog when they were holding the small dog in there arms.
No, she isn't growling to protect you. As others have said, it is frustration and redirecting on you. It can go from the snapping at you that occurred to actual bites. A group class for OB and I would suggest a private class as well to work on the handling and management.
I can say from experience (and the battle scars) you seriously want to get a handle on the redirecting before the snaps turn to bites. My troublemaker - different issues - skipped the snapping and went straight for the bites. It ended only after a 'come to jesus' meeting.
Keep in mind for your dog's and other's safety, that dogs who redirect can redirect on whatever is closest to them at that moment. This time, the snap was focused on you, next time it could be a child, neighbor, family member.
The snapping has only happened once. She seems to be getting better about it. We ran into 3 different dogs this morning and I had her sit on the grass while the other dogs pass by. Most of the other dog owners know us by now.
I did get a private lesson with a dog trainer last weekend. We were working on the problem of her laying down in the middle of the hallway and you having to step over her (leader of the pack) and also her getting to close to the front door. On the blocking problem I shuffle my feet until she moves and on the getting to close to the doorway I push her back to the first support column with my body. Now when she is blocking the hallway she moves when I approach and on the front door when I turn around she steps back to the first column. She's a very smart dog and very likable. I think with a few weeks of training she will be the perfect dog!
You've had her for 2 weeks. She needs some time to learn to trust you. You should read this, and implement some of the exercises and understand where her brain is at this time.
Well by reading that article we have established on thing. I broke all the Rules!
I will forward the article to the director of Greater Houston German Shepherd Dog Rescue,(GHGSDR.ORG) and hopefully they will give the article to new dog owners such as myself. GHGSDR gives you 2 weeks to decide if you want to keep the dog. By giving this article to new owners this will greatly reduce the return rate of there Rescue dogs.
As for snapping at you, she's just redirecting, don't take that personally :)
I agree, get into a good training class. If she's great about the other stuff, I'm sure you'll be able to work through this problem! Some dogs have leash aggression/frustration issues.
Maybe try bringing treats or a toy with you and see if you can keep her attention on you when being approached by other leashed dogs, or failing that, cross the street and give her more room, until you can work on closing the distance.
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ARSC T3D Users' Newsletter 53, September 22, 1995
Changes with the 1.2 PE
Getting a ListingThe man pages specific to the MPP machine are available with the commands:
man 1m cf77 man 1m cft77 man 1m f90These man pages list which flags are specific to the PVP machine and are no longer supported on the MPP machine. From the cf77 (MPP) man page we have the following:
The following options valid on Cray PVP systems are not valid on Cray MPP systems: -Z phase, -Wd"fpp", -Wu"fmp", -eE, -F, -J, and -M.and from the cft77 (MPP) manpage:
The following options valid on Cray PVP systems and CRAY-2 systems are not valid on Cray MPP systems: -a alloc, -A adrmode, -i intlen, -I inlname, -l listfile, -t trunc.But these warnings don't tell of all the flags that are no longer valid with the 1.2 PE. One particularly useful flag missing on the MPP compiler is the listing flag -es :
/mpp/bin/cft77 -es hello.f cft77-31 cft77: ERROR -e option has an invalid argument s. cft77-25 cft77: 1 CFT77 control statement errors occurred. cft77-26 cft77: Compilation aborted.The only workaround for this that I've found is:
cf77 -r0 hello.fto produce a listing in the file hello.l
Another resourceful user didn't like the results of this method and wound up putting directives like:
CDIR$ LIST CDIR$ NOLISTinto his code and then capturing the output that goes to standard error:
cft77 hello.f >& hello.l
Problems with SHMEM_GETCRI has informed all of its T3D sites of a problem with the SHMEM_GET routine in the 1.2 PE. Below is their description of the problem. At ARSC we will try to upgrade to the 22.214.171.124 PE as soon as possible.
> TO: CRAY T3D customers > OS: UNICOS MAX > PROD: CrayLibs_M > FROM: Customer Service Technical Support > DATE: September 16, 1995 > REVISED: > TYPE: Problem Statement and Resolution > SUBJECT: SFN # 1179 - SHMEM_GET may return bad data for > small transfers > > > EXTENT OF IMPACT > ---------------- > > This problem affects users of LIBSMA that is contained in the > CrayLibs_M 184.108.40.206 release or later on CRAY T3D systems. > > > PROBLEM DESCRIPTION > ------------------- > > A problem was introduced into SHMEM_GET starting with the > CrayLibs_M 18.104.22.168 release that could cause the routine to > retrieve data from the wrong processing element (PE). This > can cause a program to give incorrect results. > > The problem may occur when successive calls to SHMEM_GET > exist. The second call to SHMEM_GET must be to the same > source address as the first call but to a different PE. The > second call also must be transferring two or three words of > data and the source data must span a cache line boundary. A > Fortran example follows. > > COMMON /D/ X(8), Y(8), Z(8) > CDIR$ CACHE_ALIGN /D/ > ... > CALL SHMEM_GET(Y, X(4), 4, 1) > CALL SHMEM_GET(Z, X(4), 2, 2) > > > RESOLUTION > ---------- > > The fix for this problem has been incorporated into the > CrayLibs_M 18.104.22.168 release, which is available through > CRInform.This message is addressed to those working on application development on the CRI T3D computer system. Please forward it freely to anyone who might be interested at your site.
Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center (PSC), Ohio Supercomputing Center (OSC), and Arctic Region Supercomputing Center (ARSC) (a MetaCenter Regional Alliance) ----together with---- CRAY Research, Inc. (CRI) are pleased to announce a *************************************************************** * * * Meeting on the Optimization of Codes for CRAY MPP Systems * * January 24-26, 1996 * * Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania * * * *************************************************************** The purpose of this meeting is to bring together developers of T3D code and promote discussions of their experiences on the T3D, enabling them to further optimize the performance of their codes on the T3D and T3E. Selected presenters will deliver brief talks describing T3D projects, implementation design decisions, optimization strategies, resulting code performance, and any circumstances inhibiting further optimization of the code. In addition to the talks, there will be opportunities for formal and informal discussions among the participants. For those participants interested in collaborating on code development or testing their newly acquired ideas, our state-of-the-art training facility will be available for the duration of the meetings. Registrations are currently being accepted from those interested in presenting and/or attending the meeting. ----- Application Deadline: October 16, 1995 ----- More details can be found by opening http://www.psc.edu/ and following the "Hotlist" link. =============================================================== REGISTRATION INFORMATION: The registration fee for this 3-day meeting is $75, which includes breakfast and lunch for the 3 days and the cost of handout materials. Housing and travel are the responsibility of participants, but we will assist you in making reservations. Group rates on local hotel accommodations are available on a first-come, first-served basis. If you are interested in being a presenter and/or attending the meeting, please return your completed registration form by October 16, 1995 to: Workshop Application Committee ATTN: Anne Marie Zellner Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center 4400 Fifth Avenue Pittsburgh, PA, 15213 You may also apply by sending the requested information via electronic mail to firstname.lastname@example.com or via fax (412/268-5832). Specific questions should be directed to Cathy Milligan, Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center's Education and Training Coordinator, at email@example.com (412/268-8263). =============================================================== REGISTRATION FORM: Name: Department: Univ/Ind/Gov Affiliation: Address: Telephone: Electronic Mail Address: Social Security Number: Citizenship: Academic Status (please mark one): F - Faculty PD - Postdoctorate GS - Graduate Student UG - Undergraduate UR - University Research Staff UN - University Non-Research Staff GV - Government I - Industrial O - Other Would you like assistance with arranging hotel accommodations (yes/no)? Briefly describe your computing background and research interests. Are you interested in being a presenter and attending the meeting, or just attending the meetings? ___ presenter ___ just attending If you are interested in being a presenter at this meeting, please submit a brief abstract of your talk describing your T3D project and your involvement in it. Be sure to include details on the project's goals, implementation design decisions, optimization strategies, performance, and any circumstances inhibiting further optimization of the code. Please note that if there are more offers of presentations than can be accommodated, the organizers will select those that they judge have interest to the widest audience.
New Charging Algorithm at ARSCAs of October 1st, 1995 ARSC will be changing its algorithm for calculating Service Units (SUs). The current algorithm is:
1.000*Y-MP(CPU-hours) + 0.050*T3D(CPU-hours) + 0.005*Memory(MWord-hours) + 0.003*your Denali files(GByte-hours) ------------------------ = total SU'sThe new algorithm as of October 1st is:
1.000*Y-MP(CPU-hours) + 0.010*T3D(CPU-hours) + 0.005*Memory(MWord-hours) + 0.003*your Denali files(GByte-hours) ------------------------ = total SU'sThe only change is the charge for using the ARSC T3D:
from: 0.050 *T3D(CPU-hours) to: 0.010 *T3D(CPU-hours)This reflects a depreciation of T3D time in line with our attempts to boost T3D utilization. It brings our valuations in line with other T3D sites and advertises our wish to become a production site for T3D applications. If you have questions about this change contact Mike Ess.
T3E to be Displayed at the Alaska CUGOn the firstname.lastname@example.com news reflector there was an announcement about the T3E:
**** ANNOUNCEMENT - T3E MACHINE AT CUG ALASKA **** There will be a real air cooled T3E machine with a 4 processor module installed, on display at the CUG meeting in Alaska. This will be quite a show-and-tell event available for viewing late Thursday September 28 and Friday September 29. Please spread the word!!! -- Joan Palm - CUG Office/Cray Research Inc. Conference Planning 655 A Lone Oak Drive Eagan, MN 55121 Phone: 612-683-3522 Fax: 612-683-3599 Internet: Joan.palm.cray.com
List of Differences Between T3D and Y-MPThe current list of differences between the T3D and the Y-MP is:
- Data type sizes are not the same (Newsletter #5)
- Uninitialized variables are different (Newsletter #6)
- The effect of the -a static compiler switch (Newsletter #7)
- There is no GETENV on the T3D (Newsletter #8)
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- Different clock granularities for gettimeofday (Newsletter #11)
- Restrictions on record length for direct I/O files (Newsletter #19)
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- Missing Linpack and Eispack routines in libsci (Newsletter #25)
- F90 manual for Y-MP, no manual for T3D (Newsletter #31)
- RANF() and its manpage differ between machines (Newsletter #37)
- CRAY2IEG is available only on the Y-MP (Newsletter #40)
- Missing sort routines on the T3D (Newsletter #41)
- Missing compiler allocation flags (Newsletter #52)
- Missing compiler listing flags (Newsletter #53)
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Since I no longer offer my wares on this forum, arrangements are in the works for Cruiser to take possession of this entire project. Sorry the pics no longer work, as this is a very old thread, but maybe Cruiser, or anyone else with one of these helmets, might post a pic.
Here's what I got so far - very rough. This started out the weekend as a toy army helmet. Saturday, I pulled a quick plaster mold of the dome, and fiberglassed it while it was still warm. Then formed aluminum around it in a flared tube shape, and glassed that. Sunday, I measured, marked, and began the cheeks. Next weekend, I'll probably finish roughing it out, and work on detailing it(band, vents, etc.). When that's done, it'll get sprayed with gelcoat to seal it, then wet-sanded and molded. I'll do the ears and rangefinder once I have a first pull.
I'm guessing it's between 2/3 and 3/4 size of my helmet. Mine's about the size of a DP '95. It still has a ways to go, but you can get an idea of the size. Ignore the t-visor drawn on. it was more for checking symetry at this point. It will have much more squint when it's finalized.


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Re: Oil Kings
WOW!!! A sure winner hopefully... gmv!
Well it was on paint! After class for about five minutes!
makselarts wrote:Ovulating? My Goodness! UTL I'm LMAO here love the comment..Great design too!
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The artwork is amazing. GMV.
I'm pretty sure penguins are now banned from the contests. I wonder if it will be rejected.
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chamelean75 wrote:I really like this but I already voted on a shirt and it doesn't seem to let me vote for another shirt. You can only vote once for a shirt design right?
You need to have bought something on any woot site to vote.
Once you can vote, you can vote for as many shirts as you want.
Re: Greedy wishes
Edit: That means hooray.
I'd like to see you do better!
*giggle* The best shirt in the whole competition!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! simple, yet funny
huh? I don't get it
Re: Money is the Devil's Food
Can't use gradients.
although gas prices in the US are relatively cheap considering europe and other countries, the oil companies are still reaping record profits while the middle class is being stuck with ever increasing costs from many angles. spin it any way you like, the oil companies are reckless profit mongering pigs that are responsible for much turmoil in the world. also works well from a consumer critique standpoint.
Great shirt ~ GMV!
Re: the color of money
the colors of money.
what do YOU own?
gmv, love the comp
Re: A bag of gold in hand it worth...
A bag of gold is hand is worth more than a whole pile of gold across an almost impossible and deadly obstacle course....
I'm an one that smells of Elderberries.. I spelled the title wrong....
squidboots wrote:>Rejected because: What's with the mouse?
Way to reject a shirt by only looking at the thumbnail, woot.
i think this is a perfect example of greed. some people are so stupid, you should resubmit with a different thumbnail
planitL wrote:I'm pretty sure penguins are now banned from the contests. I wonder if it will be rejected.
To my knowledge it is just penguins who are trying to fly.
I thought it was flying penguins that were banned...
usual wrote:huh? I don't get it
I think this is what it is:
A guy has a small bag of gold and is happy. But then he sees some gold bars and isn't satisfied with the bag of gold anymore. He then has to go through a bunch of obstacles (fire, snake, etc.) to get to the bars of gold.
artulo wrote:I thought it was flying penguins that were banned...
It is. Flying Penguins that are banned, not penguins.
Re: The Tycoon of ICE
Oh, and great job Cho. Love your work! Gotta get my bling on with Mr. Ice.
Great colors and rendering...GMV for sure!
Re: Not Enough Ice Cream
gluttony and greed... pretty interrelated, plus they both start with the letter g.
artulo wrote:Oh, and great job Cho. Love your work! Gotta get my bling on with Mr. Ice.
i was gonna put that hat on my penguin! damn i should have!
i pm'd you yesterday
really awesome job!!!
schneaky wrote:Wow! I'll wear this every time I fill up!!! Great job, awesome shirt. GMV.
you'll have no time to wash it
Re: Step Three: Profits! (chalkboard design)
dang it.. and I was quite happy with this one!
Re: I Want A Golden Goose!
Gotta love a WIlly Wonka reference. Nice job with the design. gmv
Re: FatCat
This is a great design, but I don't think it conveys greed that well. Maybe you should save it for another derby or submit as a daily. Great color combo, though!
slysappysucker wrote:I must be completely ignorant.
At least you've got the integrity to come out and admit it.
tgentry wrote:Great job Zenne! The colors are nice and moody, and conquistadors are way underused. and much better than pirates.
I agree. I think it's much better just because it isn't a pirate. Good artwork too.
Re: It's Ours Now
Very realistic looking. How is this about greed, tho? I'd vote for the art itself, but I need to understand the greed part first.
eHalcyon wrote:Can't use gradients.
what do you mean by that?
Re: Dragon's Hoard
I think I'd prefer a bottom right or bottom left placement, but this is a great illustration. Plus I don't have any shirts that are this color.
Re: I Claim This Land for France!
shouldn't someone from france be running AWAY from claiming land?
usual wrote:I'd like to see you do better!
Sorry - I was teasing - my submissions have been pretty much stick figures and little better - I must learn more about computer graphics programs (GIMP in particular, which is the one I have - it's free online) - before I can submit anything with any chance of winning.
So believe me, you won't see me do much better until I'm a bit more educated in this form of art.
Sorry if I sounded like a b-u-t-t-h-e-a-d.
Awww... poor little slave penguins. I don't say this often - only a few so far have appealed enough to me to make me say I gotta have this one, but I gotta have this one. Great idea, great image. Nice choice of shirt color, thank you.
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Politico's Ben Smith gets defensive
Yesterday, Media Matters noted [1] that Politico's Ben Smith followed in the footsteps of his colleagues Jonathan Martin and Carol Lee in noting that Barack Obama has not attended church since being elected president without noting that President Bush rarely attends church.
Today, Smith responds [2] ... sort of:
John Judis [3] and Media Matters [1] make much of a short blog item [4] I did noting that Obama's schedule hasn't included church visits.
If nothing else, the tone of the responses reflect how defensive the left still is on faith. The Media Matters post was four times longer than my item, and I don't really think that a single story and a blog item constitute "such a big deal."
It is pretty much impossible to deny that you're being defensive without appearing defensive, so I'll leave it to readers to decide whether that adjective fits our post [1].
For the sake of argument, let's stipulate that "the left" is "defensive ... on faith." Here's what Ben Smith misses: In this case, at least, "the left" is "defensive" because journalists like Ben Smith are unfairly advancing the false caricature of progressives as lacking faith. Smith and his Politico colleagues are going out of their way to point out that Barack Obama, a Democrat and a person of faith, has not attended church in the past few weeks - while ignoring the fact that President Bush, a Republican and a person of faith, rarely attends church.
If "the left" is being "defensive," it is because Ben Smith and others at the Politico are giving them reason to defend themselves. For Smith to sneer that liberals are being defensive after he gives them reason to be literally adds insult to injury.
In defending his, and his colleagues', focus on Obama's church attendance, Smith wrote: "Obama doesn't seem to consider his faith private: He talked about it all the time on the campaign trail, wrote about it in searing detail, and campaigned on it before Rick Warren's megachurch in a forum broadcast live on CNN. ... So it doesn't seem particularly unreasonable to note his habits of observance."
But Media Matters didn't say it was unreasonable to note Obama's "habits of observance." We pointed out that Smith and his colleagues failed to note that Bush - who also cannot be said to have behaved as though he "considers his faith private" -- has rarely attended church over the past eight years.
It doesn't seem particularly unreasonable to expect a reporter who purports to compare the church attendance of Bush and Obama to note the infrequency of Bush's attendance over the past eight years.
Which is probably why Smith chose not to even try to defend himself on this point. He didn't even acknowledge that point - the entire point of Media Matters' item - even exists. He offered no explanation or defense of his decision to omit the information that Bush rarely attends church. Indeed, he neither quoted nor responded to a single word of Media Matters' critique. He simply sniffed that the Media Matters post "was four times longer" than his item.
If nothing else, the tone of Smith's response reflects how defensive some journalists are when their shoddy and one-sided reporting is demonstrated.
I'll save Smith the trouble of counting words: This particular post is more than twice as long as his post. I'll be happy to make my next post on this topic shorter -- if Smith makes his next post better.


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