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"Payback is hell."
That is the message that the People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) wants to send with a new billboard the group plans to erect near Vernal. The words accompany a picture of an elk with bloodied antlers, along with the more direct anti-hunting message to "Leave animals alone."
The billboard offers no explanation for the imagery, but a post on a PETA blog references a hunter who earlier this month nearly died after he accidentally punctured his neck on the antler of an elk he had just killed in Uintah County.
"PETA is bringing attention to the fact that hunting draws blood on both sides," the organization posted on its blog.
Bradley Greenwood, 51, killed a large bull elk the morning of Sept. 7 in the Davenport Draw area of Diamond Mountain, east of Vernal. Greenwood, of Lehi, tried to roll the elk, but the elk was bigger than he thought about 600 to 700 pounds, Undersheriff John Laursen estimated at the time. One of the antlers plunged into his face behind his jaw, stabbing downward into his neck.
Greenwood called 911 for help, saying his neck was swelling and he was struggling to breathe. Laursen said the wound likely had become inflamed.
Rescuers found Greenwood and flew him to Ashley Regional Medical Center to be stabilized. Medics placed a tube into his trachea to keep it open, Laursen said; nurses have reported the procedure likely saved Greenwood's life.
Greenwood later was flown to Utah Valley Medical Center for surgery. As of the afternoon of Sept. 9, he was able to speak and was expected to make a full recovery, Laursen said.
"I'm about as ethical a hunter there is," said Greenwood, who learned of the proposed ad when contacted by The Salt Lake Tribune Monday afternoon. He pointed out that he does not make bad shots, uses the elk meat through the winter and that particular elk was a "clean kill" and did not suffer long. "There is a difference between hunting and the mistreatment of animals."
PETA is still negotiating the billboard with advertising companies, including where to place it and for how long. PETA hopes to have it placed as soon as possible, said Matt Bruce, a PETA campaigner.
This is at least the second time the group has used the "Payback is hell" slogan. After a shark bit a Florida fisherman in 2011, PETA created a similar ad accompanied with the image of a shark with a severed leg in its mouth, Bruce said. That ad was accompanied with the advice to "Go vegan."
If Greenwood had shot a dog, he would be facing serious animal cruelty charges, Bruce said. The campaigner, echoing PETA's stance against hunting, said that people have no reason to hunt or maim animals for sport. Wildlife populations are self-regulating, responding to disease, food and habitat availability and prey-predator relationships, PETA wrote in its blog post about the billboard.
"Now that a recovering Greenwood knows what it feels like to gasp what you believe to be your last breaths, maybe he'll stop killing animals and agree with PETA that compassion feels better than (bad) karma," the group added in the blog post.
Greenwood contended that hunting plays an important role in nature management, brings in a lot of revenue for the state and that there is nothing wrong with hunting if it is done ethically and respectfully.
Greenwood's incident was actually the second time an elk injured a human that week. On Sept. 5, a bull elk gored Hugo Macha, a 31-year-old Peruvian shepherd, in the La Sal Mountains east of Moab.
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14 March 2013 , 10:43 AM by Terri Begley
There's a medical team here in Brisbane that operates to bring a 'peace' to people's bodies .
The team members are among world experts in providing surgical treatment to quiet the symptoms of conditions like Parkinsons, Tourettes Syndrome and Post stroke disorders.
This team performs Deep Brain Stimulation Surgery.
We've talked about it before on this program - but we've never taken you inside an operating theatre to hear how it's done.
612 ABC Brisbane Mornings yesterday was given unprecedented access to the medical team and the hospital to watch a surgery on a patient with Parkinson's Disease.

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Remember back in early January when it seemed like the sky was falling? The Tar Heels were 10-5 overall and 0-2 in the ACC with what the bracketologists said was only one high-profile win against UNLV. Carolina was on the verge of going 0-3 in ACC play for the second time ever. The chances of landing an NCAA Tournament berth already seemed bleak to some. It was beginning to feel like 2010 all over again, the last time the Tar Heels didn't make the NCAA Tournament, and we all know how it felt to be in Chapel Hill that season.
After avoiding the 0-3 start, UNC began to show glimmers of hope: A hard-fought win at Florida State, an impressive performance from Reggie Bullock against Maryland and a comeback, overtime win against Virginia Tech.
The youthful Tar Heels were showing improvement and intensity, something that seemed to be absent early in the season. But then there was the loss in Raleigh after falling behind by 28 points and an embarrassing blowout loss in Miami. It seemed that even though Carolina was improving, it had been pushed back in the league standings.
Going into the first matchup against Duke in Cameron Indoor Stadium, there weren't many giving the Tar Heels a chance. This team was too young; the environment was too hostile; Duke was too good. Besides the Heels were coming off of that 26-point defeat against Miami; it would be easy for them to just fold.
However, instead of walking in and accepting defeat, Carolina elevated its level of play and began to realize the team it could be. A mid-season change inserting P.J. Hairston into the starting lineup reinvigorated the team and sparked a near upset of the heavily favored Blue Devils. Senior guard Dexter Strickland said, "We saw what type of team we can be during the Duke game, we saw our potential and even though we lost, it was a game for us to see what type of team we can be."
The Tar Heels are now 3-1 since Hairston was inserted into the starting five with wins over Virginia, Georgia Tech and NC State by an average of 12 points. They have turned the ball over only 25 times in the past three games and have a 77-38 edge in points off turnovers in those games. But most importantly, this feels like a different team, a team that believes it can win.
Marcus Paige said after beating NC State, "I think we're starting to click a little bit. We're starting to play harder, which should never be a problem, but we are playing a lot harder."
Early in the season, Roy Williams remained adamant that although his team was experiencing growing pains, it would get better as the year went on. The challenges that come with playing young players lasted longer than anybody hoped, even longer than Williams anticipated. But it feels like those growing pains may finally be dissipating.
James Michael McAdoo is a consistent scoring and rebounding threat and is playing his best defense of the season, Bullock is playing well on both ends of the floor and Hairston has caught fire. Perhaps the biggest change is coming from Paige, the slight rookie floor general who is coming off his best performance of the season - 14 points, eight assists, three steals and no turnovers in the 76-65 win over the Wolfpack. Paige showed confidence and poise down the stretch; confidence and poise that was lacking in the first meeting in Raleigh.
So with four games to go in the regular season, the sky is not falling. Carolina, who is now 19-8 and 9-5 in the ACC, has won nine of its last 12 games and is still in line for an NCAA Tournament berth. And although the small lineup is not Roy Williams' customary set, it has become this team's identity. It has work yet to do, of course, but there is a belief now among Carolina players, coaches and fans that the 2013 Tar Heels are on the right track.


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The tone of President Obama's 2012 campaign was far different from the inspirational tone he set in 2008. His early television ads defined Mitt Romney as a wealthy corporate raider who shipped American jobs overseas. Romney played into that characterization with a series of comments (I like to fire people; the 47 percent remark) that made him look out of touch with average people. We this election decided by tone rather than ideas and policies? What are the implications of the way President Obama won on his ability to govern? Is the Republican Party's problem its message, its messenger or its policies? How can the Republican Party more effectively communicate with an increasingly diverse population?


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For some reason there are people in the United States who enjoy hiking on the borders of nations with whom their country has strained relations. Not only do they hike, but they enjoy getting as close to the border as they can, if not actually walking into North Korea or Iran. Two American journalists, Laura Ling and Euana Lee, wandered into North Korea and found themselves in a courtroom where they were sentenced to years in a labor camp. Fortunately for them, former president Bill Clinton and his sidekick, Al Gore, hopped on a plane and went to North Korea where they negotiated the release of the two women.
North Korean leader, Kim Jong il has been completely erratic the past several months. Perhaps, it stems from his failing health or it could simply be a plan of action to create turmoil which would result in other nations catering to his whims. The state-run news agency of North Korea insists Clinton apologized, he insists no apology was given. North Korea claims Clinton brought a message from President Obama, but Bill insists all he did was use his charm to persuade the head nut case of North Korea to free the women.
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The incident began when an Israel Arab drove to the home of one of his children and either did not realize it was the eve of Yom Kippur or decided to go ahead with his trip. A mob of Israel Jews descended on Tawik Jamal and proceeded to beat him up for what they considered to be a desecration of a holy day. The incident sparked three days and nights of conflict between Israel Arabs and Jews and the end result was violence and anger in an area that had not witnessed such feelings. Mr. Jamal was arrested for "harming religious sensibilities, speeding and reckless endangerment." MK Ahmed Tibi expressed his anger at the arrest of the motorist and said it represented arresting the victim of a "lynch mob" to protect those who were in the mob.
Ironically, the man who was beaten by the mob had no thought of creating any disturbance and felt sad about what had occurred. "If what I did caused this,(the riots) I am ready to sacrifice my neck." These are hardly the words of a man bent on interfering with the high holy days. Mr. Jamal had worked with committees to foster friendship between Jews and
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We have some new information on the injury that forced Dolphins running back Reggie Bush to miss the second half of Sunday's win over the Jets. And it comes from the man himself. Bush said in a Tuesday radio interview that he has "just a bruise" on his left knee, and "I'm working to get back for this week."
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It was reported earlier in the week that Bush might be able to play this week against the Cardinals. That seems to still be a possibility, but I remain skeptical. Bush has been one of the game's best running backs so far this year, but with capable players such as Daniel Thomas and Lamar Miller in tow, I don't think the Dolphins need to hasten Reggie's recovery, especially against a tough Arizona defense in the desert. Like I said yesterday, I would guess that Bush doesn't play this week and going off how the Dolphins used their backs without him in the Jets game, Thomas is looking like a low-end RB2 this week. We'll know a lot more if Bush practices on Thursday or Friday.


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But it didn't start out that way, of course -- not by a long shot -- since, after adopting the Darkthrone moniker in 1987 (previously, they were prophetically named "Black Death"), vocalist/guitarist Nocturno Culto (née Ted Skjellum), guitarist Zephyrous, bassist Dag Nilsen, and drummer Fenriz (Gylve Nagell) were writing death metal songs! Based in the Oslo suburb of Kolbotn, the fledgling group recorded four demo tapes over the next couple of years (Land of Frost, A New Dimension, Thulcandra, and Cromlech) and was eventually signed by England's Peaceville Records, for whom they recorded their 1991 debut, Soulside Journey. As suggested earlier, this contained technical death metal in a similar vein to then dominant Swedish groups like Entombed, Edge of Sanity, and Tiamat, and was severely at odds with the small, but dedicated heavy metal community coalescing around Oslo's now infamous (and extinct) Helvete record store. It was at this nondescript location, operated by Mayhem guitarist Euronymous, that the seeds were sowed for the so-called "Inner Circle" of Norwegian black metal, whose subsequent activities (involving numerous counts of arson, suicide, and the murder of Euronymous himself at the hands of Burzum's Varg Vikernes) inadvertently drew more international attention than the inaccessible music itself ever could. It was also at Helvete that the members of Darkthrone fell under black metal's irresistibly evil spell, and, no doubt influenced by Mayhem's primal racket -- not to mention first generation black metal bands like England's Venom, Switzerland's Hellhammer, Sweden's Bathory, and Brazil's Sarcófago -- they began applying corpse makeup and turned their backs on death metal forever.
And so it came to pass that when Peaceville took delivery of the masters for Darkthrone's sophomore album, A Blaze in the Northern Sky, in 1992, legend has it that they thought this was a joke; such was the inexplicably crude violence perpetrated by its sometimes epic-length black metal odes to all things wicked and obscure. But once they discovered that the album's lo-fi standards were in fact entirely planned (and after much acrimonious haggling between both parties), the album was duly released against the label's better judgment, this being that it was doomed to fail (and bassist Nilsen apparently agreed, since he recorded his parts and promptly quit the band). But instead, Blaze became a turning point, philosophically and literally, for both Darkthrone and the entire black metal genre, which it helped to reignite, and was immediately embraced by extreme metal fans, after piquing their interest in the style's uncompromisingly vicious and unrefined roots. Thus vindicated, Darkthrone devoted all of their energies to their new, demonically inspired musical direction, so that subsequent albums like 1993's Under a Funeral Moon (the last to feature guitarist Zephyrous, who reportedly simply "vanished") and 1994's Transilvanian Hunger (their first recorded as a duo, with added lyrics contributed by Varg Vikernes) became increasingly controversial of sound and content. Specifically, a few of the latter's liner notes were deemed by some critics to be anti-Semitic, and would result in recurring future headaches and denials on the group's part for years to come. These escalating tensions also coincided with Darkthrone's departure from Peaceville before signing a new deal with Norway's own Moonfog Productions, helmed by their friend Satyr, of Satyricon. There followed a trio of LPs that were welcomed with alternating displays of enthusiasm or sheer hatred, but rarely ambivalence, including 1995's formidable Panzerfaust (openly acknowledged as an homage to Hellhammer and early Celtic Frost), and 1996's Total Death and Goatlord -- both of which lacked their predecessors' quality, and the latter of which essentially consisted of a re-recording of Darkthrone's abandoned, would-be second death metal album, clumsily "roughed up" to ape black metal form. Fans were not impressed, however, and as word spread that Nocturno had been virtually absent from the sessions for these recent albums, Darkthrone's career seemed to be in serious jeopardy.
But the cult of Darkthrone at the end of the 20th century had grown stronger than ever, as evidenced by the release of not one but two tribute albums in 1998 and 1999, that, along with the duo's first extended break in a decade, eventually spurred Fenriz and Nocturno back into action via 1999's Ravishing Grimness (a slight return to form, despite boasting uncommonly "clean" production) and 2001's somewhat inconsistent Plaguewielder (marking a return to dirtier, blackened thrash sounds). Having regained their momentum, though, the band would press on, arguably rediscovering their songwriting "mojo" with their next two albums, 2003's Hate Them and 2004's Sardonic Wrath, which made suspicious use of a few synthesizer intros, but otherwise remained commendably "trve" to the band's traditional analog black metal style, with added emphasis placed on concocting simple yet memorable guitar riffs reminiscent at times of the New Wave of British Heavy Metal. In line with this display of historical appreciation, mid-2004 also saw the release of the self-explanatory compilation CD, Fenriz Presents: The Best of Old School Black Metal, featuring classic tracks from Celtic Frost, Sarcófago, Mayhem, Destruction, and others -- as the drummer took it upon himself to sift through the wreckage of those cursed and chaotic years, post-"Inner Circle: to praise the music on its own terms.
Back on the Darkthrone front, a pair of inconspicuous EPs (2005's Under Beskyttelse av Morke and 2006's Too Old, Too Cold) preceded the band's next and, amazingly, 12th album, The Cult Is Alive, which surprisingly found them reunited with Peaceville Records, a decade after their separation (leading to the inevitable CD reissues). Even more surprising was the album's adoption of certain punk rock elements that immediately had cynics accusing Fenriz and Nocturno of selling out to "black & roll" -- especially after they proceeded to embrace the experiment even more seriously on their 2007 follow-up, F.O.A.D. and its accompanying EP, N.W.O.B.H.M., which effectively paid sonic tribute to just that. (Around this time, Nocturno Culto also completed and released a feature film about black metal and life in Norway named The Misanthrope.) In essence, these music releases made it clear that Darkthrone's twin masterminds refused to be confined into any specific stylistic box, just to appease old fans and preconceived expectations; and so their ongoing fascination with old-school punk, traditional heavy metal, and classic first wave black metal characteristics (naturally), continued to be advanced, unapologetically, via 2008's Dark Thrones & Black Flags. That same year, Peaceville celebrated Darkthone's 21st anniversary with the Frostland Tapes, which collected all four of the group's early demos, the original Goatlord demos, and a rare 1990 live concert in Denmark -- one of only a handful ever performed by this studio-bound duo. 2010's thrashy, speed metal-minded Circle the Wagons and 2013's punk-doom-centric Underground Resistance saw the band moving even further from their black metal roots, while 2016's Arctic Thunder, their 16th studio LP, signaled a possible return to darkness. ~ Eduardo Rivadavia
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Track List: Arctic Thunder
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Just wondering what the most preferable kind of paint is.
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Just wondering what the most preferable kind of paint is.
that depends on what you are doing, and what skills/tools you have.
ESB helmet? rogue studios has a list of brands and colors to use, for airbrush.
RotJ helmet? there are threads with recommendations for rattlecan and airbrush?
All the airbrush colors in the world won't help if you don't have the tools though...
Well. I don't have much experience with painting. I'm not bad, but not anywhere near as good as some of the people here.
And I am doing a custom, and even though there is a spot on the forum for customs, I thought that this question would be best answered here.
I dont know if that helps, but I'm open for suggestions and am willing to try pretty much anything
i find the best paints to be the ones that i can get easily :)
i use all rattlecans because they are able to be sourced locally and i don't have to clean my airbrushes when i'm done.
so i generally tend to just go to home depot / lowes / autozone and go with whatever they have.
mixing rattlecan brands can be trouble... the solvent in one might not work well with another.
other than that, i've used rustoleum, krylon, duplicolor, no-name. all has been well except for the rustoleum "super bright" silver. i've had pretty much everything i've ever put on top of that peel right back off.


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One day when I was 12 years old one of my friends asked me to go to a paintball park with him, a couple others and his dad. So I thought it would be a blast and I tagged along. We were all the same age (except his dad of course) and none of us had paintballing experiencing and just thought there were gravity hoppers, tippmans and spyders. But we found out the hard way when we were getting pelted with full auto guns (ramping, but we didn't know then). Towards the end of the day a lot of people left so the ref asked us to stay play one more game against him and two other teenagers. We agreed because we thought we had the advantage. So, they took up a huge secure fort while we surrounded it scattered around. And.... we got completely destroyed. All three had ramping guns and there were no refs beside the one playing. I had welts on my head and upper body as well as my other friends. They took their time to stop firing after we were out. I absolutely hated it and never wanted to do it again until I started looking into it again and learning more about it. But this is my story and its very unfortunate that douche bags like this have to pull stunts like that. But I am glad I didn't pack it up forever but I sure won't be going back to that place...
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Posted 17 September 2012 - 09:20 PM
Go back to that place and show them who is boss.
It is all about skill, and you should have reported that ref.
It is all about skill, and you should have reported that ref.
Posted 17 September 2012 - 09:28 PM
Go back to that place and show them who is boss.
It is all about skill, and you should have reported that ref.
I would but its not worth the time and money, it was pretty shitty. Decent course set up but bad people.
Posted 17 September 2012 - 09:32 PM
And why is this in negative paintball news? Did the industry go into a crash?
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Re: Great Lakes to the Caribbean (route review)
I've often thought about making this voyage myself. I've sailed Puget Sound in the NW and around the lakes in Seattle as well as Lake Superior. I'll be working in Bayfield, WI from May to August this summer if you'd like someone to join you as crew, feel free to stop by and pick me up or I'll happily meet you in Michigan!
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I have not been to CA since they changed the rules. I know now you have to have a passport just to visit. Wasn't sure what else has changed?
Miquelon is even easier. The islands live on the tourist trade. When I checked in the customs person was at the airport. The Immigration person told me to have a nice dinner and the customs person would stop by in the morning. Very low key.
If you do go to Newfoundland come down through the Cabot Straight. Going over the top is for very experienced sailors as the ports are few and the weather can be brutal. If you are that good go do it, you will pull into towns that have not seen another sailboat for 5 years or more. You will enjoy the welcome.
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I loved Newfoundland - Nova Scotia was nice, but Newfoundland was great. The problems are:
1. Heavy fog
2. Very changeable weather
3. Strong winds 35 knots is not uncommon
4. The water depth is 200 feet 2 feet from shore - lots of boats get in trouble.
If you choose to go this way leave me a PM and I will chat with you about it on the phone. If I was not planning on crossing the pond this May I would go back to Newfoundland, I liked it that much.
If you do go, make sure you also plan to stop at St. Pierre and Miquelon. These are French (not French Canadian) islands off the southwest coast of Newfoundland. You will anyway as you will see when you do route planning.
As far as the Mississippi River is concerned it is pretty much a bummer for a sailboat. Unless you want to take the stick up and down a couple of times you will drop it in Chicago and put it back up in the Gulf of Mexico. Motor, motor, motor. Once you arrive in the Gulf you then need to get somewhere fun - that means crossing the Gulf to Key West. (I have done Mexico, Belize and Guatemala but again you need to have some significant cruising experience to deal with the adverse currents and the fact that the entire trip is on a lee shore. The political situation in these places is not very reassuring either.)
Excellent advice. I made the trip from Lake Michigan (Milwaukee) via Michigan, Huron and Erie. Entered the Erie Canal at North Tonawanda (Buffalo) Long trip on the canal but lots of nice towns at night. Put the stick back up at New Castle on the Hudson. Trip down the Hudson is OK, not lots of places to stop. New York City very expensive but some marinas will deal for a stay of a month or more. I stayed in Wehawken NJ opposite 40th street in NYC. Good ferry access to NYC. Very rolly marina. $1800 for the month. That was, compared to everyone else - cheap.
Met several boats that had done the St. Lawrence route. They enjoyed it but didn't have much specific advice.
Let me emphasize that if you can go early enough in the season go to Newfoundland if you are an experienced sailor.
Nice blog covering all the routes. Well done!
Since I can't add anything more about the routes I caught a type oh or typo or two.
At the end of route 1:
"Congratulations, you mad it to the Atlantic Ocean!"
mad = made?
At the end of route 2:
"As a nice ring to the wilderness yang of the Gulf of St. Lawrence described in the first route above, the New York skyline and all of Manhattan will be on your port beam as you finally exit the Hudson River."
Yin and yang?
As you were.
Originally Posted by killarney_sailor View Post
Yes, I think yo do, but it is not hard to do
|Yes, I think yo do, but it is not hard to do
This thread is perfect timing. I just got out my book "The Great Circle Route" last night. We are considering taking our Carver to the east coast next year if we can't get it sold before we retire.
I do have a question. If we go the welland route do we have to check into Canada and than check back into the USA after we make the trip through the canal?
Anyone know?
Forgot a couple of things.
1 I have done part of the Trent-Severn in a powerboat only, but have talked to people who have done it in a sailboat. It is nominally good to 5' and they both had that draft but hit things in the channel several times, including things more solid than mud. I would likely not choose that route with most cruising sailboats unless draft was closer to 4'
2. The route you pick should be related to where you want to go once you reach the ocean. If you want to get to eastern Caribbean (BVIs down to Grenada), you are either doing the ICW all the way south and then the Thorny Path or you are going offshore from the Chesapeake or somewhere else. If the latter, the Mississippi route makes no sense. If you were going to the western Caribbean, the Mississippi route makes a lot more sense.
I have done it through the Oswego Canal, Champlain route (when the Erie was closed), and have gone up the St Lawrence and done Welland several times (both ways). Know nothing about the Mississippl route other than that it is there.
1. Going down the Welland or the St Lawrence locks is quite easy. You can do it with two people and it is snap with three. Really not a big deal at all.
2. The distance from Whitby (just east of Toronto) to Albany (where the canals end and you can start to think about putting the stick up) is, to the mile, twice as far going the the Champlain route rather than the Erie Canal route. We had to go via the Champlain route because of flooding on the Erie so it is perfectly doable, but I don't see any advantage to it.
Both canal routes are quite pleasant and not too long so you get bored with the motoring. The latter might be an issue if you entered the Erie Canal in Buffalo. We had nice weather for crossing Lake Champlain with the mast down. I imagine that this might be a problem if the weather is unsettled. There is even a nasty, shallow lake on the Erie Canal (Lake Oneida). It is only a couple of miles wide but about 20 miles long and kicks up a nasty, short chop easily. Make sure the mast is very well-secured before you cross it and don't cross if the forecast is not good. Might want to go at first light before the wind comes up.
3. If you go this way you can put your own mast up at the Castleton BC just south of Albany. They have an excellent crane that was $1/ft a few years ago (sometimes they charge by boat length and sometimes by mast length). Best to avoid weekends since the crane site is exposed to wakes. If you are going south for a year or two and coming back you can mark your mast supports and leave them at Castleton for your return. (They may be there)
4. The St Lawrence route gives you access to some spectacular cruising grounds. I cannot recommend the south coast of Newfoundland too highly. Spectacular scenery, whales, friendly people, remoteness - even icebergs if you go a little further. You need to be self-contained going this way. There are not marinas and you have to be careful with fuel usage in places but it is worth it. It will not be very warm so you need some warm clothes. Radar is pretty much an essential until you get well into New England. You don't really go near the Bay of Fundy unless you want to, but there are tides (17' at Quebec City as I remember - the marina has a lock entrance) and you will go very fast downstream with the current and tides. Highlights are (in order of when you visit them): Quebec City, Gaspe, Magadlen Islands, Newfoundland, St Pierre (part of France), Bras d'Or Lakes. Maine, and then you catch up with the canal folks in NYC.
If you have any questions let me know.
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Focus on Economic Data: U.S. Employment and the Unemployment Rate, December 2012
This lesson focuses on the U.S. Department of Labor, Bureau of Labor Statistics, "Employment Situation" announcement of employment data and the unemployment rate for the month of December, 2012. The announcement was made January 4, 2013. This lesson introduces the basic concepts of the BLS employment and unemployment data. The meaning and importance of the data are discussed. Assessment exercises are included for reinforcing knowledge of the concepts.
Business Cycles, Full Employment, Labor Force, Macroeconomic Indicators, Types of Unemployment, Unemployment, Unemployment Rate
- Review the most recently reported U.S. employment and unemployment data.
- Determine the changes in U.S. employment and unemployment from the past month and year.
- Determine the factors that have influenced the change in the U.S. unemployment rate.
- Explain the implications of the employment and unemployment data for individuals, population groups, and the U.S. economy.
Current Key Economic Indicatorsas of November 30, -0001
Each month, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) releases data from the monthly "Household Survey" conducted by the Bureau of the Census, providing a comprehensive body of information on the employment and unemployment experience of the U.S. population, classified by age, sex, race, and a variety of other characteristics.
The BLS also conducts the Current Employment Statistics (CES) program, surveying about 150,000 businesses and government agencies, representing approximately 390,000 individual work sites, in order to provide detailed industry data on employment, hours, and earnings of workers on nonfarm payrolls.
The BLS compiles information from these sources and announces the monthly "Employment Situation," reporting the current U.S. employment and unemployment data estimates. The announcement, typically on the first Friday of each month, reports labor market data from the previous full month.
This lesson is about the January 4, 2013, BLS announcement, "Employment Situation: December 2012 ." This lesson will introduce the basic concepts and data for employment and unemployment.
"Employment and Unemployment Rate" Focus on Economic Data Lesson Schedule
During the second half of the 2012-2013 school year, (January-May), EconEdLink will publish four Focus on Economic Data lessons on employment and the unemployment rate. During this time period, the lessons will begin with the 'basics' in September (this lesson) and progressively focus more on complex data, issues and comparisons. All monthly Focuses on Economic Data will include the current data and significant recent changes.
- December 2012. Released January 4, 2013: employment and unemployment data basics. What is employment? What is the unemployment rate? How are they measured? What is the current data? What do they mean?
- January 2013. Released February 1, 2013: details and issues about the measurement and meaning of employment and unemployment, adding concepts such as underemployment, full employment, etc.
- February 2013. Released March 8, 2013: detailed breakdown of the data by region and industry (trends, identifying trends and comparisons of regions and demographic groups
- March 2013. Released April 5, 2013: the relationships of employment and unemployment data to other economic data, such as GDP, CPI, etc., and the business cycle.
- April 2013. Released May 3, 2012: Year-end employment and unemployment summary
- Bureau of Labor Statistics: The Current Population Survey (CPS): This site contains a monthly survey of households conducted by the Bureau of Census for the Bureau of Labor Statistics. It provides a comprehensive body of data on the: labor force, employment, unemployment and persons not in the labor force. www.bls.gov/cps/
- Fact Sheet on Seasonal Adjustment in the CPI, www.bls.gov/cpi/cpisaqanda.htm
- Labor and Productivity Costs: This BLS site provides full historical annual and quarterly measures of labor productivity and costs in the U.S. www.bls.gov/lpc//news.release/prod2.nr0.htm
- Historical Changes in Employment: This BLS site provides employment percentages dating back to 1939. data.bls.gov/PDQ/servlet/SurveyOutputServlet?data_tool=latest_numbers&series_id=CES0000000001&output_view=net_1mth
- Historical Unemployment Rate: This BLS site provides unemployment data dating back to 1948. data.bls.gov/PDQ/servlet/SurveyOutputServlet?data_tool=latest_numbers&series_id=LNS14000000
- Ranks of Discouraged Workers and Others Marginally Attached to the Labor Force Rise During Recession: This report addressed the long-standing issue of the importance of including discouraged and marginally attached workers in determining the real level of unemployment. www.bls.gov/opub/ils/pdf/opbils74.pdf
- BLS, Employment and Unemployment FAQs.www.bls.gov/cps/#faq
- Council for Economic Education, Virtual Economics video, "Employment and Unemployment." URL: www.econedlink.org/interactives/index.php?iid=202
- Kahn Academy online video, "Unemployment Rate Primer." URL: www.khanacademy.org/finance-economics/macroeconomics/v/unemployment-rate-primer .]
Key Economic Indicatorsas of December 20, 2012
On a seasonally adjusted basis, the Consumer Price Index for All Urban Consumers decreased 0.3 percent in November (2012) after rising 0.1 percent in October. The index for all items less food and energy rose 0.1 percent in November after increasing 0.2 percent in October.
Employment and Unemployment
Nonfarm payroll employment rose by 155,000 in December (2012), and the unemployment rate was unchanged at 7.8 percent, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today. Employment increased in health care, food services and drinking places, construction, and manufacturing.
Real GDP
Real gross domestic product -- the output of goods and services produced by labor and property located in the United States -- increased at an annual rate of 3.1 percent in the third quarter of 2012 (that is, from the second quarter to the third quarter), according to the "third" estimate released by the Bureau of Economic Analysis. In the second quarter, real GDP increased 1.3 percent.
Federal Reserve
The FOMC decided to keep the target range for the federal funds rate at 0 to 1/4 percent and currently anticipates that this exceptionally low range for the federal funds rate will be appropriate at least as long as the unemployment rate remains above 6-1/2 percent, inflation between one and two years ahead is projected to be no more than a half percentage point above the Committee's 2 percent longer-run goal, and longer-term inflation expectations continue to be well anchored.
In October of 2009, the U.S. unemployment rate hit a recent high of 10.1 percent. The U.S. economy had lost over 8 million jobs between November, 2008 and October 2009. The number of unemployed persons in the U.S. increased from 6.7 million in May, 2007, to 15.2 million in November, 2009. Today, the unemployment rate is much lower, but still high, especially for the almost 12 million people who are unemployed. The U.S. has recovered to it previous level of output of goods and services, but the labor market has not.
What do these numbers really mean?
The Employment Situation – December 2012
U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics
Released: January 4, 2013
"Nonfarm payroll employment rose by 155,000 in December, and the unemployment rate was unchanged at 7.8 percent, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today. Employment increased in health care, food services and drinking places, construction, and manufacturing."
According to the BLS announcement, the total number of U.S. jobs increased by 155,000 in December, 2012, just about the number than many economists suggest is needed to keep up with the growth of the population and labor force. Using that guideline, the U.S. economy seems to have kept pace in December. Those simple numbers may not tell the whole story.
Take a closer look at the January 4, 2013, BLS announcement for more information. First, some important labor market definitions.
Who are the Unemployed?
According to the BLS definition, unemployed persons are, "Persons aged 16 years and older who had no employment during the reference week, were available for work, except for temporary illness, and had made specific efforts to find employment sometime during the 4-week period ending with the reference week. Persons who were waiting to be recalled to a job from which they had been laid off need not have been looking for work to be classified as unemployed." (BLS Glossary URL: www.bls.gov/bls/glossary.htm )
Those under age 16, in school, incarcerated, or somehow institutionalized are not included in the labor force and, thus, are not eligible to be counted as unemployed or employed. To be counted, you have to have not worked during the week of the BLS survey and must have been looking for a job.
[Teacher Note: Ask: Why are those under 16, in school, incarcerated or institutionalized not counted as part of the labor force? They are usually not available to work full-time.]
What is the unemployment rate?
The unemployment rate is the number unemployed persons as a percent of the civilian labor force. For instance, if there are one million people in a nation's civilian labor force and 100,000 of them are unemployed, the nation's unemployment rate is 10 percent. 100,000 divided by 1,000,000 is .10 - expressed as 10 percent.
[Teacher Note: Given the appropriate data, students should be able to determine a nation's unemployment rate. Try these examples:
Labor force: 125,000,000; Unemployed: 6,000,000. What is the unemployment rate? (4.8%)
Labor force: 230,000,000; Unemployed: 18,500,000. What is the unemployment rate? (8.0%)
Labor force: 82,600,000; Employed: 80,100,000. What is the unemployment rate? (Hint: if 80,100,000 are employed, then only 2,500,000 are unemployed) (3.0%)]
The U.S. unemployment rate in December, 2012, was 7.8 percent, no change from the previous month, but 0.7 percentage point lower than in November, 2011 (8.5 percent).
Figure 1, below, shows the recent history of the U.S. unemployment rate since 1990. Note the periods of increases and decreases that generally correspond with the business cycles. The higher levels of unemployment beginning in December, 2007, and reaching over 10 percent in 2009, represent the most recent recession. Also note the slight changes around the "trend" of about 7.8 percent since September, 2012.
[Teacher Note: Help your students identify pattern of the "business cycles" in Figure 1. Remember, the business cycles consist of periods of growth, peak, decline and trough. You may see the patterns of the cycles in the employment and the real GDP growth figures in the EconEdLink lessons. For more about business cycles, go to the National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER) webpage: www.nber.org/cycles.html .]
Determining the U.S. Unemployment Rate, December 2012
- Civilian Labor Force 155,511,000
- Employed 143,305,000
- Unemployed 12,206,000
12,306,000 divided by 155,511,000 equals 7.849 (rounded to 7.8 percent.)
Household Survey Data - Unemployment
As usual, the burden of unemployment was not evenly distributed among demographic groups or around the nation. Figure 2, below shows the unemployment rate by demographic group in December, 2012 - by race/ethnicity and educational attainment.. If you look at the historical data, the relative pattern of unemployment rates for these demographic groups has remained somewhat constant over recent years.
[Teacher Note: The BLS provides an online tool to select specific employment and unemployment data, including historical unemployment rates by demographic groups. URL: data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/surveymost?ln ]
BLS data tells us that "education pays" in more than one way. Those with higher educational attainment typically earn higher incomes and they are less likely to be unemployed. For more information on the relationship between educational attainment, median income, and unemployment rates, see the BLS "Education Pays" webpage, www.bls.gov/emp/ep_chart_001.htm.
[Teacher Note: Ask: How does education pay?]
Who are the "employed"?
According to the BLS Glossary, employed persons are "persons 16 years and over in the civilian non-institutional population who, during the reference week, (a) did any work at all (at least 1 hour) as paid employees; worked in their own business, profession, or on their own farm, or worked 15 hours or more as unpaid workers in an enterprise operated by a member of the family; and (b) all those who were not working but who had jobs or businesses from which they were temporarily absent because of vacation, illness, bad weather, childcare problems, maternity or paternity leave, labor-management dispute, job training, or other family or personal reasons, whether or not they were paid for the time off or were seeking other jobs."
Note: if you worked just one hour for pay during the survey week, you were "employed."
[Teacher Note: Ask your students: Is one hour of paid work in a week meaningful employment? Should someone who works for, say, just five hours in a week be counted as fully "employed"? What about a person who has given-up looking for a job? Is that person "unemployed." The BLS definition says no. What do you think?]
What is payroll employment?
"Employment is the total number of persons on establishment payrolls employed full or part time who received pay for any part of the pay period which includes the 12th day of the month. Temporary and intermittent employees are included, as are any workers who are on paid sick leave, on paid holiday, or who work during only part of the specified pay period. A striking worker who only works a small portion of the survey period, and is paid, would be included as employed under the CES definitions. Persons on the payroll of more than one establishment are counted in each establishment."
"Data exclude proprietors, self-employed, unpaid family or volunteer workers, farm workers, and domestic workers. Persons on layoff the entire pay period, on leave without pay, on strike for the entire period or who have not yet reported for work are not counted as employed. Government employment covers only civilian workers. Persons on layoff the entire pay period, on leave without pay, on strike for the entire period or who have not yet reported for work are not counted as employed. Government employment covers only civilian workers."
Counting the number of jobs, workers, or employment is sometimes difficult. Some people have multiple jobs. Some people are not legally working. Some people are not paid, but do contribute to the nation's output of goods and services. Why aren't the owners of small businesses counted in the number of employed?
[Teacher Note: Ask your students: What do you think is a good definition of "employment."]
Types of Unemployment - BLS Definitions
There are generally three types of unemployment typically identified by economists, each of which describes the particular circumstances of the individual and their employment situation.
Frictional unemployment is temporary unemployment arising from the normal job search process. Frictional unemployment helps the economy function more efficiently as it simply refers to those people who are seeking better or more convenient jobs and those who are graduating and just entering the job market. Some frictional unemployment will always exist in any economy.
Structural unemployment is the result of changes in the economy caused by technological progress and changes in the demand for goods and services. Structural changes eliminate some jobs in certain sectors of the economy and create new jobs in faster growing areas. Persons who are structurally unemployed do not have appropriate job skills and may face prolonged periods of unemployment, as they must often be retrained or relocate in order to find employment.
- Cyclical unemployment is unemployment caused by a drop in economic activity. This type of unemployment can hit many different industries and is caused by a general downturn in the business cycle. Lower demand for goods and services reduces the demand for workers. Much of the increase in unemployment in 2008 was cyclical as a result of the economic downturn and recession.
The BLS publishes monthly data on "Unemployed Persons by Reason for Unemployment" as part of the Employment Situation report (Table A-11). This data does not distinguish between the "types" of unemployment listed above. Take a look: www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t11.htm.
[Teacher Note: Students should be able to give example of individuals who are unemployed and determine their category. Students can write case studies about why someone is unemployed. Example: Mary lost her job in the steel mill when the production of steel moved to regions with lower wage rates. (structural unemployment)]
At the levels of unemployment that economists consider to be the lowest possible sustainable levels (discussed below), the only unemployment that exists is due to friction in labor markets and structural changes in the economy.
Full Employment
Economists define the approximate unemployment rate that is 'full employment.' If unemployment falls to a very low rate, there will be upward pressure on prices. If unemployment rises to a very high rate, there will downward pressure on prices or prices will remain steady. In the middle is a level, or more likely a range, where there is not pressure on wages to rise or fall. That is, generally, the full employment rate of unemployment.
Economists do not agree or know for certain what that rate is and it does change over time. A consensus estimate is that the full employment rate of unemployment is currently between 4.5 and 5.0 percent of the labor force being unemployed. Today, some economists suggest that, due to technology and business trends, the level of full employment has changed and the "natural rate of unemployment" may be somewhat higher. Evidence of this is that U.S. output has increased without a corresponding increase in employment.
Additional Unemployment Data - December 2011
The BLS also tracks the length of unemployment. In December, "In December, the number of long-term unemployed (those jobless for 27 weeks or more) was essentially unchanged at 4.8 million and accounted for 39.1 percent of the unemployed. (See table A-12.) " The average length of unemployment during this recession has been especially long.
The labor force participation rate is the percentage of the total civilian noninstitutionalized population who are in the labor force (employed plus unemployed.) In December, "The civilian labor force participation rate held at 63.6 percent in December. The employment-population ratio, at 58.6 percent, was essentially unchanged over the month. (See table A-1.)"
The BLS tracks those who are not fully employed in several ways. "The number of persons employed part time for economic reasons (sometimes referred to as involuntary part-time workers), at 7.9 million, changed little in December. These individuals were working part time because their hours had been cut back or because they were unable to find a full-time job. (See table A-8.)"
"In December, 2.6 million persons were marginally attached to the labor force, essentially unchanged from a year earlier. (These data are not seasonally adjusted.) These individuals were not in the labor force, wanted and were available for work, and had looked for a job sometime in the prior 12 months. They were not counted as unemployed because they had not searched for work in the 4 weeks preceding the survey. (See table A-16.)"
"Among the marginally attached, there were 1.1 million discouraged workers in December, little changed from a year earlier. (These data are not seasonally adjusted.) Discouraged workers are persons not currently looking for work because they believe no jobs are available for them. The remaining 1.5 million persons marginally attached to the labor force in December had not searched for work in the 4 weeks preceding the survey for reasons such as school attendance or family responsibilities. (See table A-16.)"
[Teacher Note: Ask: Is a discouraged worker unemployed? Not according to the BLS definition. What do your students think?]
Establishment Survey Data - Employment
"Total nonfarm payroll employment increased by 155,000 in December. In 2012, employment growth averaged 153,000 per month, the same as the average monthly gain for 2011. In December, employment increased in health care, food services and drinking places, construction, and manufacturing. (See table B-1.)"
Employment Data by Industry Group, December, 2012
As usual, in December, there was growth in some industries and lob losses in others. The monthly changes in selected major industry groups are listed in Figure 3, below. In December, Employment increased in health care, food services and drinking places, construction, and manufacturing.
[Teacher Note: Students can discuss which industries are important to their school's area. If manufacturing is a critical local industry, how has their region done in recent years as total manufacturing employment has decreased?]
Workweek Data
The length of the average workweek or the amount that employees work overtime can be an indicator of economic growth or decline. As things get better, employers may choose to pay more overtime rather than fully commit to hiring more full-time workers. An increase in the average workweek is usually a positive sign. In December, the average workweek increased for most major industries.
"In December, the average workweek for all employees on private nonfarm payrolls edged up by 0.1 hour to 34.5 hours. The manufacturing workweek edged up by 0.1 hour to 40.7 hours, and factory overtime was unchanged at 3.3 hours. The average workweek for production and nonsupervisory employees on private nonfarm payrolls edged up by 0.1 hour to 33.8 hours. (See tables B-2 and B-7.)"
Average Hourly Earnings
The Average hourly wage increase has slightly exceeded the increase in the consumer price index (CPI-U) over the past twelve months. Consumer prices have increased by 1.8 percent over the year. Source: BLS, www.bls.gov/news.release/cpi.nr0.htm .
"Average hourly earnings for all employees on private nonfarm payrolls rose by 7 cents to $23.73. Over the year, average hourly earnings have risen by 2.1 percent. In December, average hourly earnings of private- sector production and nonsupervisory employees increased by 6 cents to $19.92. (See tables B-3 and B-8.)"
Revisions of the June and July 2011 Employment Estimates
As is the usual practice, the BLS revised the employment data for the two most recent months, based on new or more complete. "The change in total nonfarm payroll employment for October was revised from +138,000 to +137,000, and the change for November was revised from +146,000 to +161,000." In this case, the October estimate remained essentially the same, but November was revised upward by 16,000 jobs.
[Teacher Note: For more information, see the BLS employment and unemployment FAQs. URL: www.bls.gov/dolfaq/blsfaqtoc.htm ]
[Teacher Note: Discussion Question: Between 2008 and 2011 federal laws extended eligibility for unemployment compensation for up to 99 weeks in states with persistently high unemployment rates. Some argue that longer eligibility for unemployment compensation may, in fact, discourage people from seriously seeking employment. Do you agree or disagree?]
What About Part-time Workers?
According to the BLS, part-time "refers to those who worked 1 to 34 hours during the survey reference week and excludes employed persons who were absent from their jobs for the entire week." These people are counted in the labor market as employed.
Some people work part-time for economic reasons, "those who worked 1 to 34 hours during the reference week for an economic reason such as slack work or unfavorable business conditions, inability to find full-time work, or seasonal declines in demand."
Some people worked part-time for noneconomic reasons, "such as "persons who usually work part time for noneconomic reasons such as childcare problems, family or personal obligations, school or training, retirement or Social Security limits on earnings, and other reasons."
[Teacher Note: Ask: Should people who are working part-time and want full-time work be somehow counted as unemployed?]
Labor Force
In December, 2012, almost 89 million people in the United States were "not in the labor force," and not counted as employed or unemployed. Who were they?
The BLS explains: "Labor force measures are based on the civilian noninstitutional population 16 years old and over. Excluded are persons under 16 years of age, all persons confined to institutions such as nursing homes and prisons, and persons on active duty in the Armed Forces. As mentioned previously, the labor force is made up of the employed and the unemployed. The remainder—those who have no job and are not looking for one—are counted as "not in the labor force." Many who are not in the labor force are going to school or are retired. Family responsibilities keep others out of the labor force."
- Those under age 16 are not in the labor force.
- Those who are retired and not working are not in the labor force.
- Those in the military are not in the labor force.
- Those who are institutionalized (incarceration or hospitalized) are not in the labor force.
- Those who have not sought work in 4 weeks are not in the labor force.
- Those who simply do not have to or want to work are not in the labor force.
The U.S. labor force grew by 192,000 in December, about 37,000 more than the increase in employment. In some months, the change in the size of the labor force has been the determining factor in the calculation of the unemployment rate. If the number of unemployed remains the same, but the labor force increases, the unemployment rate will drop. If large numbers of people give-up looking for jobs and leave the labor force, it is possible to have a drop in the number of those defined as unemployed,but at the same time have an increase in the unemployment rate.
[Teacher Note: You can go to the BLS announcement tables to see how the size of the labor force and number of unemployed can change in different directions in some some months. Ask your students: Why might people enter or leave the labor force? (They may become discouraged and stop looking for work, or they may feel better about their opportunities and begin looking for jobs. If you are not working or looking for work, you are not counted as unemployed or in the labor force.)]
Alternative Measurements of Unemployment
The BLS explains, "there is only one official definition of unemployment, and that was discussed above (in the lesson). However, some have argued that this measure is too restricted, and that it does not adequately capture the breadth of labor market problems. For this reason, economists at BLS developed a set of alternative measures of labor underutilization . These measures are published every month in the Employment Situation news release. They range from a very limited measure that includes only those who have been unemployed (as officially defined) for 15 weeks or more to a very broad one that includes total unemployed (as officially defined), all persons marginally attached to the labor force, and all individuals employed part time for economic reasons."
Six Alternative Measures of Labor Utilization
- U-1 Persons unemployed 15 weeks or longer as a percent of the civilian labor force.
- U-2 Job losers and persons who completed temporary jobs as a percent of the civilian labor force.
- U-3 Total unemployed as a percent of the civilian labor force. (The "official" rate)
- U-4 Total unemployed, plus discouraged workers, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus discouraged workers.
- U-5 Total unemployed, plus discouraged workers, plus all other persons marginally attached to the labor force, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus al persons marginally attached to the labor force.
- U-6 Total unemployed, plus all other persons marginally attached to the labor force, plus total employed part time for economic reasons, as a percent of the civilian labor force, plus al persons marginally attached to the labor force.
[Teacher Note: Ask: Which of these do you think is the most meaningful measurement of unemployment in the economy?]
{Teacher Note: The BLS's alternative measures have been redefined over time. Previously, there had been seven alternative measures.]
January 4, 2013, Announcement Tables
- Employment Situation Summary Table A. Household data, seasonally adjusted
- Employment Situation Summary Table B. Establishment data, seasonally adjusted
- Employment Situation Frequently Asked Questions
- Employment Situation Technical Note
- Table A-1. Employment status of the civilian population by sex and age
- Table A-2. Employment status of the civilian population by race, sex, and age
- Table A-3. Employment status of the Hispanic or Latino population by sex and age
- Table A-4. Employment status of the civilian population 25 years and over by educational attainment
- Table A-5. Employment status of the civilian population 18 years and over by veteran status, period of service, and sex, not seasonally adjusted
- Table A-6. Employment status of the civilian population by sex, age, and disability status, not seasonally adjusted
- Table A-7. Employment status of the civilian population by nativity and sex, not seasonally adjusted
- Table A-8. Employed persons by class of worker and part-time status
- Table A-9. Selected employment indicators
- Table A-10. Selected unemployment indicators, seasonally adjusted
- Table A-11. Unemployed persons by reason for unemployment
- Table A-12. Unemployed persons by duration of unemployment
- Table A-13. Employed and unemployed persons by occupation, not seasonally adjusted
- Table A-14. Unemployed persons by industry and class of worker, not seasonally adjusted
- Table A-15. Alternative measures of labor underutilization
- Table A-16. Persons not in the labor force and multiple jobholders by sex, not seasonally adjusted
- Table B-1. Employees on nonfarm payrolls by industry sector and selected industry detail
- Table B-2. Average weekly hours and overtime of all employees on private nonfarm payrolls by industry sector, seasonally adjusted
- Table B-3. Average hourly and weekly earnings of all employees on private nonfarm payrolls by industry sector, seasonally adjusted
- Table B-4. Indexes of aggregate weekly hours and payrolls for all employees on private nonfarm payrolls by industry sector, seasonally adjusted
- Table B-5. Employment of women on nonfarm payrolls by industry sector, seasonally adjusted
- Table B-6. Employment of production and nonsupervisory employees on private nonfarm payrolls by industry sector, seasonally adjusted(1)
- Table B-7. Average weekly hours and overtime of production and nonsupervisory employees on private nonfarm payrolls by industry sector, seasonally adjusted(1)
- Table B-8. Average hourly and weekly earnings of production and nonsupervisory employees on private nonfarm payrolls by industry sector, seasonally adjusted(1)
- Table B-9. Indexes of aggregate weekly hours and payrolls for production and nonsupervisory employees on private nonfarm payrolls by industry sector, seasonally adjusted(1)
The Misery Index
At the end of 2012, the "Misery Index" of the U.S. economy was 9.6. The Misery Index is a hybrid indicator, a combination of the unemployment rate and the. rate of inflation. By the end of 2012, the increase in the CPI-U (annualized November data) was about 1.8 percent over the past year and the U.S. unemployment rate was 7.8 percent. That made the Misery Index 9.6, slightly less than the past seven months, but somewhat higher than the average over the past twenty years, and lower than some recent years. At the end of 2011, the Misery Index had been12.11. (Source: "U.S. Misery Index," URL: www.miseryindex.us )
The Misery Index was devised by Economist Arthur Okun, an advisor to President Johnson in the 1960s. The index is seen by many as a good measure of the health of the economy, combining two factors that impact people directly. The Misery Index is not "official" data, but it does reflect the BLS data in a larger sense.
The Misery Index reached a recent high of 21.98 in June, 1980, when the unemployment rate was 7.6 percent and the rate of inflation reached almost 14.4 percent. In contrast, the recent low was 5.74 in April, 1998, when the unemployment rate was4.3 percent and inflation was just 1.44 percent.
[Teacher Note: Tell your students: If you look at the history of the Misery Index, you will see times when there was very high unemployment and low inflation, times when there was high inflation and low unemployment, and every other combination. Ask: Can you find a time when there was both high unemployment and high inflation - so-called "stagflation"? For more information and the history of the Misery Index, go to "The U.S. Misery Index" website, URL: www.miseryindex.us .]
[Teacher Note: For a good lesson about the historical impact of economic conditions on presidential elections, see the Council for Economic Education's publication Focus: Understanding Economics in Civics and Government, lesson 8, "Economic Misery and Presidential Elections," Page 99.]
Following the Misery Index provides another way to look at the up and down cycles of the economy. Keeping the Misery Index in mind, take a look at the December 2011, employment and unemployment data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
[Teacher Note: Students may have different opinions about the meaning of the Misery Index. Is it a good measure of the economy's well-being?]
The unemployment rate is just one measure of the health of the economy. Consider it only in the context of other macroeconomic data.
Youth Employment and Unemployment - Summer 2012
In August, 2012, the BLS released data concerning youth employment and unemployment during the late Spring and Summer of 2012. Take a look at this data and compare it to your experiences and those of your friends.
Employment and Unemployment Among Youth - Summer 2012
Bureau of Labor Statistics
Released: August 21, 2012
"From April to July 2012, the number of employed youth 16 to 24 years old rose 2.1 million to 19.5 million, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today. This year, the share of young people employed in July was 50.2 percent. (The month of July typically is the summertime peak in youth employment.) Unemployment among youth increased by 836,000 from April to July 2012, compared with an increase of 745,000 for the same period in 2011. (Because this analysis focuses on the seasonal changes in youth employment and unemployment that occur each spring and summer, the data are not seasonally adjusted.)"www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/youth.pdf
Youth Labor force
"From April to July 2012, the number of employed youth 16 to 24 years old rose 2.1 million to 19.5 million, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today. This year, the share of young people employed in July was 50.2 percent. (The month of July typically is the summertime peak in youth employment.) Unemployment among youth increased by 836,000 from April to July 2012, compared with an increase of 745,000 for the same period in 2011. (Because this analysis focuses on the seasonal changes in youth employment and unemployment that occur each spring and summer, the data are not seasonally adjusted.)"
Participation Rate
"The labor force participation rate for all youth—the proportion of the population 16 to 24 years old working or looking for work—was 60.5 percent in July, up from July 2011. Taking a longer-term perspective, the July 2012 participation rate was 17.0 percentage points below the peak rate for that month in 1989 (77.5 percent)."
"The July 2012 labor force participation rate for 16- to 24-year-old men was 63.2 percent. The rate for young women was 57.8 percent. From 1948, when the series began, to 1989, the July labor force participation rate for young men showed no clear trend, ranging from 81 to 86 percent. Since 1989, however, their July participation rate has trended down, falling by about 20 percentage points. The July labor force participation rate for young women peaked in 1989 at 72.4 percent, following a long-term upward trend. The participation rate of young women has fallen by about 15 percentage points since 1989."
"The youth labor force participation rate for whites was 62.9 percent in July 2012, compared with 54.5 percent for blacks, 43.7 percent for Asians, and 57.1 percent for Hispanics."
Youth Employment
"Employment for 16- to 24-year-olds reached 19.5 million in July 2012, up 2.1 million since April. In 2011, youth employment rose by 1.7 million from April to July. The July 2012 employment-population ratio for youth—the proportion of the 16- to 24-year-old civilian noninstitutional population with a job—was 50.2 percent, up from July 2011. (See table 2.)"
"In July 2012, the youth employment-population ratio for men was 51.9 percent, and the ratio for women was 48.4 percent. The ratio for whites was 53.5 percent, compared with 38.9 percent for blacks, 37.4 percent for Asians, and 46.5 percent for Hispanics."
"Twenty-six percent of employed youth worked in the leisure and hospitality sector (which includes food services) in July 2012, the same proportion as in July 2011. Another 19 percent of employed youth worked in the retail trade industry in July 2012, down slightly from the proportion in July 2011. (See table 3.)"
Youth Unemployment
"The number of unemployed youth in July 2012 was 4.0 million, little changed from 4.1 million a year ago. The youth unemployment rate was 17.1 percent in July 2012. The unemployment rate for young men was 17.9 percent, in July 2012, and the rate for women was 16.2 percent. The jobless rate for whites was 14.9 percent, compared with 28.6 percent for blacks, 14.4 percent for Asians, and 18.5 percent for Hispanics. (See table 2.)"


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|Topic Review (Newest First)
1) You can use size 270 thread in a standard industrial sewing machine like a Singer 111W if you use a size 24 or 25 needle. I have sewed with size 270 thread successfully with my Consew 226R. The problem is that there will not be much thread on your bobbins because of the thickness of the thread, and you'll be changing bobbins every two minutes. I had better luck sewing with 270 on my Consew 255RB-3 because it uses a very large bobbin.
2) Not all double needle machines are chain stitch machines, I have a double needle machine that uses lock stitches. Additionally, the double needle machines used to sew French seams are not flat bed machines, they are post bed machines like a shoemaker would use to get around tight areas. A lot of them also feed a piece of twill tape onto the underside of the fabric being stitched to make the seam much stronger. A chain stitch is just as strong as a lock stitch. The reason for using chain stitch machines like the Union Special is because the "bobbin" is a full spool of thread. That way you never have to change the "bobbin" thread until the spool runs out. The drawback of a chain stitch machine is that you can't back tack.
)3 No, you won't notice it unless you get within a few inches of the stitching, the human eye doesn't work that way . Your concern is not founded in fact. If you make a french seam with a double needle machine on a curved area, the two stitch lines won't match up between the inside part of the curve and the outside part of the curve. You can make a really nice French seam making two passes, you just have to take your time and keep a part of the foot aimed at the same thing as you sew all your stitches.
4) You can sew Alcantra, (or real leather, or anything else) with a regular pointed needle. The key is using the smallest needle for the thread you are using. The thread will fill up the needle holes. I use a size 22 standard pointed needle for almost everything I sew.
|Thanks, this PDF is great. I feel like it would be a classroom lesson to my local upholstery guys. I've come across Greg @ Keystone in some other posts online. Very knowledgable (and obviously so). Funny how the relevant names are so easily apparent.
pretty much I dont know a lot about older machines, as I use a new Consew and Adler. Alot of trimmers feel that it is easier to use a single needle machine due to making compound curves on double needle machine is a complete pain in the As*. single needle will never bee as straight as dual but can be damn close, dependant on the trimmers skill set
Attached is a needle guide for leather that was made available By greg at Keystone sewing in philly, great guy!! should remedy the same on alacantara.
I was curious if you had ever had a seat in alacantara before, simply because a bit different, not a huge fan of it and that stuff is anything but cheap.
Keystone bros has a similar material known as street suede, and personally, 12 bucks a yard sounds great compared to 70 bucks a yard lol.
I moved your lengthy interior question over to this thread.
Please help with some upholstery questions
I'd appreciate it any of you fellow veterans could take a quick look at my other post in the new member area and help me out.
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Thanks in advance!
Interior questions
Hey fellas,
I just joined this forum because I have some questions to ask you veterans before I get into my next project, and would appreciate your knowledge and advice.
Although I don't have a hotrod, I have a car with high sentimental value that is in need of upholstery repair. I was in the interior subforum and Dan2lakes looks like he's a wealth of info here.
I've purchased two types of fabric for the seats; a custom reproduction Poly weave on 3mm foam backing, and Alcantara microsuede on 3mm foam backing. Now I'm learning about what's next and my local upholstery shop seems clueless about my questions.
1) I want to do French seams around some of the curved pieces, in contrasting stitching, but nothing local (Tex 90 max) looks thick enough. The local upholsterer shop has nothing thicker either. I found this QTC contrast bonded nylon 270 thickness thread that looks good, but I can't find any references to machines that could handle it. Is 207 (210) poly thread the thickest thread I'm safe using? The upholsterer said if I buy the thread they can try to see if they can sew with it, but its $25 for a 16oz spool.
2) The OEM factory French seams were made on a double needle chain-stitch machine, something similar to a Singer 300W205 as best as I can tell... The backside is definitely two rows of chain stitch perfectly spaced with matches stitches. Why would they do this, as the chain stitch isn't as strong as a locking stitch? What do you all use for French seams?
3) The local upholsterer can do two-needle French seams but it looks like a standard locking stitch with two bobbins. The upholsterer actually said it's easier with a single needle and doing two passes but I'm concerned that it won't look right because
a) the French seam stitches won't line up on either side of the seam, instead looking like a zipper, with different number of stitches on either side, and
b) they won't have that railroad-track perfect spacing between them, as one might vary in or out compared to the other.
--- the upholsterer said "Oh who's going to even notice??" ... Answer: me!
4) With Alcantara (microsuede) and woven fabric (like a knit) what kind of needle would be best? I'm thinking that the woven fabric will prefer a ball-point or something blunt, but the microsuede will prefer something with an acute or sharp point.
Thanks guys, I just want to be asking the right questions and go into this with open eyes and clear expectations as I'm hopeful that my requests can be met.
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Hi ppl
only me again. I am in the middle of converting my gauntlets to ROTJ and have noticed a piece on others r/h gauntlets that i don't know anything about (see the pic). its the tube like bit under the long box section. (btw that is not my gauntlet, hope i don't upset anyone by using their pic)
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