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We were out target shooting.
Some morons were screwing around and shot at us, my BIL was shot in the back.
I had about 5 shots over and into the sand berm that I was lying behind-yes, I was cowering.
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We were out target shooting.
Some morons were screwing around and shot at us, my BIL was shot in the back.
I had about 5 shots over and into the sand berm that I was lying behind-yes, I was cowering.
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Da Bears didn't win....but this ain't no football game.....
This is our Sputnik Moment.
No, We have had Mercury, Gemini, Apollo, Voyager, Skylab, Vikings, the Shuttles, the IES, the two Mars Landers and a whole arse full technology that WE PIONEERED and BO is going to use a POS Russian satellite as an example?
Or, is he harking back to the days when we got our rears handed to us by someone else and we go into freakout mode and start building stuff, willy nilly?
I just looked SM up and it funnier than what I wrote.
Sounds like he's on board with the Old Soviet Union being more bitchin' than we were.....
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The guy in the purple tie over the prez' left shoulder looked like he wanted to cry.
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I loved loved loved the line about the winner of the science fair should be cheered as much as the winner of the super bowl.
don't breed or buy while shelter dogs die....
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My mom has a friend who was on the school board for a long time and she said the process for what to do with a poor-performing teacher is a challenging one. There are apparently a lot of "layers" to work through. I don't think I could be a teacher in this day and age. There are kids with complex family situations, learning disabilities, asthma and diabetic students, peer pressure, bullying, state and federal testing... My hat is off to teachers. But I've heard people say they could never be a nurse, but I like it.
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Well...I am shocked, shocked, shocked!
The guy in the purple tie (and since when is purple an appropriate color tie for a politician???) is NOT wearing a little jeweled American flag in his lapel...I have magnified the photo - he is wearing some other emblem but NOT a little American flag.
We all learned a couple of years ago that failing to wear a tiny bit of jewelry in the model of an American flag PROVES the politician is a commie/solicalist/anti-American/marxist.
So WHO is this guy?
(and yes, the veep is also missing his jewelry in the shape of an American flag - he probably left it on his pjs...)
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Von Braun, born in Wirsitz, Germany, in 1912, had been interested in the nascent science of rocketry since his teen years. In 1928, while he was in high school, he joined an organization of fellow enthusiasts called Verein für Raumschiffahrt (Society for Space Travel), which conducted experiments with liquid fuel rockets.
By the time Germany was at war for the second time in a generation, von Braun had become a member of the Nazi Party and was the technical chief of the rocket-development facility at Peenemünde on the Baltic Coast. There he oversaw the design of the V-2, the first long-range ballistic missile developed for warfare.
The "V" in V-2 stood for Vergeltungswaffe (vengeance weapon). Traveling at 3,500 miles per hour and packing a 2,200-pound warhead, the missile had a range of 200 miles. The German high command hoped the weapon would strike terror in the British and weaken their resolve. But though the successful first test flight of the rocket took place in October 1942, operational combat firings—more than 3,000 in all—didn't begin until September 1944, by which time the British people had already withstood four years of conventional bombing.
England wasn't the only target. "There were actually more V-2 rockets fired at Belgium than at England," says Michael Neufeld, curator of the V-2 on view at the National Air and Space Museum and author of Von Braun: Dreamer of Space, Engineer of War. "In fact, the single most destructive attack came when a V-2 fell on a cinema in Antwerp, killing 561 moviegoers."
The Air and Space Museum's V-2 was assembled from parts of several actual rockets. Looking up at it is not unlike looking up at a skeleton of a Tyrannosaurus rex: each is a genuine artifact representing the most highly evolved menaces of their eras.
When the war ended in 1945, von Braun understood that both the United States and the Soviet Union had a powerful desire to obtain the knowledge he and his fellow scientists had acquired in developing the V-2. Von Braun and most of his Peenemünde colleagues surrendered to the U.S. military; he would eventually become director of NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Alabama. There he helped design the Saturn V (in this case, the V stood for the Roman numeral five, not vengeance), the rocket that launched U.S. astronauts toward the moon.
During the war the Nazi regime transferred thousands of prisoners to the Mittelbau-Dora Concentration Camp to help build the V-2 factory and assemble the rockets. At least 10,000 died from illness, beatings or starvation. This grim knowledge was left out of von Braun biographies authorized by the U.S. Army and NASA. "The media went along," says Neufeld, "because they didn't want to undercut U.S. competition with the Soviet Union." Von Braun always denied any direct role in prisoner abuses and claimed he'd have been shot if he'd objected to those he witnessed. But some survivors testified to his active involvement.
For many years the V-2 exhibit omitted any mention of the workers who perished. But in 1990, Neufeld's colleague David DeVorkin created a whole new exhibit, including photographs and text, to tell the complete story.
The assembled rocket wears the black-and-white paint used on test missiles at Peenemünde instead of the camouflage colors used when the V-2 was deployed on mobile launchers. Museum officials in the 1970s wanted to underscore the rocket's place in the history of space exploration and de-emphasize its role as a Nazi weapon.

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|Consistently voted as one of the top playing surfaces in college baseball, L. Dale Mitchell Park provides a state-of-the-art facility for the OU baseball program.
Named for the mid-1940s Sooner letterman who still holds OU's career and single-season batting records, L. Dale Mitchell Park was dedicated in 1982. Originally constructed at a cost of $1.27 million, recent renovations totaling over $2 million have improved both the team and fan experience at the stadium.
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Oklahoma also took first-place honors in the competition in 1994. The 2006 season was OU's latest entry as programs can enter the competition only once every five years after taking first place. Four major league head groundskeepers served as the judges in the competition.
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I'm pretty new to the thought of teaching English as a great way to earn a living, let alone in a foreign country :X
to be frank I'm very much daunted by all these trainings and institutions and stuff and I wanted to ask a few of you folks about a thing or two.
I've researched a bit and most of these are pricey, for a someone like me who is just about to graduate and all that, online course look good but I see that TEFL International has a program in Thailand and China where they would train you for like 500USD and have a job for you for four months. The China program looks good to me as I have been wanting to go there too.
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The Mosquito has been a problem handgun since it came out,,,
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Wow. Just. Wow.
The WB's stable mate is a genuine AMG modified 1982 500SL with a AMG installed 5 speed manual transmission, one of five known V8 (M117) AMG MT examples in the US. The next step to the SEC WB's mechanical transformation is to pull the SL's box and duplicate the uber rare M117/Getrag bell housing and mate it to the 5.4 with the exact Getrag box AMG offered back in the day.
The AMG modified M117 is another animal all together when mated to MT. It really comes alive.
one of the vehicles that has inspired the mt conversion:
anyway, thanks for the all the positive feedback and I'll keep you guys posted on future progress.
Did you bring the car to cars and coffee last saturday? They had a MB marquee section. Quite a few W126 bodies, but in pretty worn condition.
Amazing work as always Henric! I second Ivan's (choochoo) suggestion to bring it to Cars and Coffee. You will definitely get lots of attention there!!!
Will that M117 use CIS injection?
Missed out on the MBCA supported CnC last weekend. Will definitely make it to future events but did attend Supercar Sunday some months ago. Photos were posted here on Vortex by a fellow member.
Here are a two photos taken at the "Legends of the Autobahn" West Coast Summer Concours in Carmel, California 2011 by photographer Larry Loney. Enjoy!
Simply perfect.
That is all.
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Thank you for keeping this car awesome for future generations.
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Thank you gentlemen.
Meanwhile, I landed a very rare AMG 32v DOHC M117 engine. It arrived in bits, pieces missing, considered unreliable and is known to leak like a sieve but said to sound like a symphony when turning 5-6k and tuned.
Another piece of AMG history that deserves a shot at being brought back to life.
wallet > brains
but for that, I applaud you for taking the chances that no one else will.
someone's gotta do it, and that someone has to be you, sir!
I am right there with you, Chapel. Here's hoping that beast will arise to roar yet again!
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Just discovered this thread. Have a 94 W140 500 Coupe in the family and since I'm a technician by trade I keep it in top running shape and have done a few mods but I have more of a softspot for the W126 Coupes especially the almighty Widebody AMG, the holy grail of Mercedes big body cars. I'm definitely keeping track of this thread. Great work man, great work!
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Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) released figures showing that they deported fewer people during FY2013 than any year since FY2008 –368,644. But that number is still higher than at any time during the Bush administration despite the unauthorized immigrant population peaking in 2007. Just eyeballing the bottom graph confirms that the level of deportations is largely explained by the size of the unauthorized immigrant population (R-Squared=.813). The more unauthorized immigrants there were, the higher the number of deportations.
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I'm just not sure what size intake runner (cc) I would benefit from with this cam. I don't want to go too big or too small. I think I have the 1" 5/8 primaries on my headers. They are pretty standard headers...
I know I REALLY need a good carb tune but I can't get it any better. I need to get some tuning time on the dyno with someone who knows what they're doing with a carb.
I think with this cam I will continue to make good power through the power band I just am looking at extending the power band higher in the tq and hp. I want to squeeze every last bit of power from this setup. I feel its a great street motor where I can hit the gas and break the rear end loose and just play with.
As soon as I can find one, I am going to swap in a 95" impala SS rear axle so I can get a little better 3.08 gears, limited slip, 8.5" rear end and disc brakes. More bang for my buck and its a direct bolt in to my "G" body.
aluminum heads cool better so they will tolerate more compression with other items remaining the same.If you keep that small cam I see no reason to go very big on the intake runners.180s are good enough.it depends what the heads flow,how many cfm the heads flow at what valve lift,then factor in your cam and see what you can make HP wise
How would someone go about selecting an intake runner size rather than someone just saying I should be ok with such and such? How would I know what to pick, say a 165cc, 170cc, 180cc, 195cc, 200cc, 210cc, 215cc, 220cc, 235cc etc... The 235cc will flow the most air because it's bigger. Why would 180cc be ok for my setup? Help me understand why. Thanks
As a general rule the more rpm you turn the larger of cross-sectional area you'll need. Also increased displacement requires more area. For a street engine you want to go with an adequate volume and no more. Bigger is not better, smaller is not better- just right is better. If you do have to go slightly larger or smaller go a hair larger.
Same with intake and exhaust runners. The tiny little 170cc intake runners in the L31 Vortec 5700 heads will do a better job of filling the cylinder than a lot of aftermarket heads with larger volume runners. A rule of thumb for a small block Chevy street driver is cubic inches times 1/2......283/140, 305/150, 327/160, 355/175, 383/190, 406/200. This assumes STREET use, idle to 5500 rpm's, not racing. The runner must be sized so that the "slug" of air/fuel mixture has sufficient VELOCITY to continue to pack the cylinder even after the piston has reversed course and is headed back to the top of the cylinder on its compression stroke. Remember, compression cannot begin until the intake valve closes and that is quite a number of degrees after bottom dead center with the piston coming up the bore. Of course, you also need VOLUME. If the runners were the size of a drinking straw, you'd get some hellacious velocity, but you wouldn't get much volume because the other factor involved is TIME. Your goal is to fill the cylinder with as much mixture as possible during the time that the intake valve is open.
Most of you fellows who are building street motors will use too much head and too much cam in an effort to make high horsepower. Horsepower is not what moves the car from point A to point B in a street use setting. Torque is what does that. If you really want to build a pleasant driver that will pull like Jack the Bear, bolt a set of L31 heads onto a 383 and enjoy the torque created from 1500 to 5500. Build it 9.5:1 with a matching cam, long-tube, equal-length headers with 1 5/8" primaries, dual-plane high-rise intake manifold such as an Edelbrock RPM #7116 or Professional Products Vortec Crosswind #52028, 650 vacuum-secondaries carb and you'll have a really pleasant, tractable daily driver motor.
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More TQ than HP???
I have done some checking on this combo. Stock 350 block height is 9.020"-9.025". The rod length, 1/2 of stroke, and piston compression height don't add up to what you say. 5.70"+1.740"+1.560"= 9.0". Pistons are .025" down in the hole. For quench you have .025"+.015"= .040". You have 55" for quench. On the KB compression calculator your combo has 10.10 static compression and the dynamic compression ratio is 9.075. To run on pump gas you would want to have 7.5-8.5 DCR to avoid detonation. Keep an ear out for any pinging or knock. The 882 heads have the small 151cc intake ports is probably why it seems torquey. Here is the intake flow rates .100-70, .200-125, .300-175, .400-204, .500-205, .600-206. The exhaust flows .100-59, .200-109, .300-136, .400-143, .500-144, .600-145. A stock set of Vortec heads have 170cc intake ports and flow .500-239 intake and 160 exh. But like was said you cannot use them because they have 64cc chambers. The good news is I just finished reading an article on a 355 9.1 compression engine with 882 heads that were ported and 2.02 & 1.60 valves were swap in. The cam was a Crane PowerMax .427/.454 lift with 204/216 duration. Hold on to your hat, it produced 367hp & 442 lbs torque. Chevy Small Block Build - Mildly Amusing - Super Chevy Magazine
Ya the build is a little goofy. The pistons are .040" in the hole which is how i have .055" quench. That is some great info on those heads! I have the ports opened up pretty good at the mouth but just the way they are cast you can tell they are restrictive. I'm looking at a set of TrickFlow fast as cast 72cc aluminum heads with 180cc runners and 75cc exhaust. Those should really help the flow out along with the 2.02 int valves. I'm going to notch the intake plenum and add an open 1" spacer which should also help. Then see where i go from there. What do you guys think? Thanks!
The way i checked the quench was just a quick check since things were already together i used a dial indicator to get dead 0 and then used a straight edge and then roughly measured it.
More TQ than HP???
Yeah, that's the part I don't understand. A 350 chevy block has a deck height of 9.025. Add 1/2 the crank diameter, the rod length, and piston compression height on your pistons. The total comes to 9.0". How can the pistons be .040 in the hole? The Trick Flow heads have a 72cc chamber, that will put your static compression at 10.571 and the DCR at 9.493. You will have to use 110 octane with a DCR of 9.493.
This isn't that different from what you currently have, BUT it has a better intake, better carb, and is probably painstakingly assembled and tuned, and ran under ideal conditions. As TI has implied though their engine has great midrange power and yours can too (and already does to some extent).
If you want a good street engine concentrate on midrange power (what people often mislabel as torque) not peak power.
BTW can you post your dyno graph, often the graph can show problems that you may not be aware of.
Gen I SBC with conventional heads (not L31)
Edelbrock 7101
Professional Products 52020 Typhoon
Weiand 8016 (out of production, but can be found used)
Holley 300-36 (out of production, but can be found used)
All these high-rise intake manifolds were patterned after the aluminum Z-28 302 CID intake manifold that was cast by Winters for GM in '68/'69.
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I want to re-figure the SCR and DCR, as the numbers don't seem right.
Cylinder 738 cc's
Chamber 72.5 cc's (deduct 3.5 cc piston dome from 76 cc chamber, then figure the piston as a zero value).
Piston 0
Piston Deck Height @0.040" in the hole at TDC 8.5 cc's
Gasket 3.3 cc's
Total 822.3 cc's
less cylinder volume
Total 84.3 cc's
Divide 822.3 by 84.3 and find 9.75:1 SCR
The 274 HO6 stick closes the intake valve at 31 degrees after bottom dead center @0.050" tappet lift and will make 8.764:1 DCR on the KB calculator.
Now, we need to find out from the OP what kind of fuel he runs and we will know that this particular combo will run on "X" fuel at 8.764:1 DCR with a 0.055" squish.
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Although Greenwood recorded an entire album, Shotguns, during his time with Capitol, the label never released the record and he was eventually released from his contract. Dreamworks took the opportunity to sign him in 2000, and Citizen Cope's self-titled album was released two years later. The bad luck continued, however, as Greenwood felt the label mishandled his record. Using an advance from Arista, he bought his way out of the Dreamworks contract and settled into a partnership with his new label. The Clarence Greenwood Recordings hit shelves in September 2004 and received considerable attention, with the track "Son's Gonna Rise" even appearing in a GM Pontiac commercial. The band remained with Arista/RCA for the release of Every Waking Moment two years later, but Greenwood had grown tired of the boundaries presented by any record label. Accordingly, he released The Rainwater LP himself in 2010, although the band's fusion of blues, folk-pop, and laid-back hip-hop remained intact. Greenwood returned two years later with a mellower, more laid-back sound on 2012's One Lovely Day. ~ Greg Prato
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I agree with you on this. Especially wood on Nickel or S/S. It makes the gun look Classy!
Your 686 is a great looking revolver. Nice choice.
I have a S/W M39 9mm Nickel with its original wood grips. I also had a Taurus PT92 S/S and put Hogue wood grips on it. Looked DAMN FINE! I sold it to a buddy to buy a Beretta 92 Brigadier ELITE II.


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text: Yeah it's been ahwile since you have seen a team show some "humbling" class like the Spurs did last night in congratulating the young Grizzlies. Dyess, Popovich, Manu and TD went out of their way to hug and give them the good luck, "you really kick our Arses" talk. Zebo was the man in the 4th and it to bad he won't be signing with the Pistons this summer he has now found a home.


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I saw in another post someting about a 92 Inox? do they still make these? I'm beretta illerate, the only ones I know about are the types they have in the local gunshop, Never had any interest in them untill recently. TIA
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I saw in another post someting about a 92 Inox? do they still make these? I'm beretta illerate, the only ones I know about are the types they have in the local gunshop, Never had any interest in them untill recently. TIA
Yes, they are still made - they are now just 2-tone - Inox silver colored with the mag release, safety, trigger and a few other parts being black. I personally like the 2 tone look.
I purchased a Beretta 92 FS Brigadier, Inox, and wondered what that term meant. I later read somewhere that "Inox" was just the term that Beretta used to designate their stainless steel models.
More recently I discovered that INOX is the:
European Market Development Association for Stainless Steel. :idea:
On the two tone models the plastic or plastic coated parts are black
Glad I got one when they were all metal!!
I kinda like the two tone color, but can understand why people want only the metal parts.
Anyway, the Inox guns are being discontinued this year. Get 'em while ya can...
Think my tax return is going towards another INOX.
Also been pondering, get a 90 Two and hard chrome some parts. Now that would look killer 8)
Well, no word on when the 90 Two will be out - so, don't know how long U will have to wait.
Glad I got mine when I could. :-D :-D :-D
Just saw on the net that Baretta is gonna discontinue the Inox line? is this true? I know you cant trust everyting u read on the net but I hope it aint true, I've seen some really nice Inox pistols on the auction sites recently.
Well, I have no inside knowledge into the company itself, but I have read the same thing on more than 1 forum - and someone who attended the shot show reported the same as well. So, for now, I believe it.
I'm hearing conflicting things now. I forgot what site it was, but someone said that they spoke to Beretta Customer Service on the phone and said the rumour was unfounded and untrue.
For us INOX lovers, I hope that is the case.
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Well, I called and was put on hold for about 10 min. I had to get back to work, will try again tomorrow. I also just e-mailed them and ask. So we'll see. I'm still in the market for a 96 Brig Inox. I personally need to know if I should start aggressiving searching for one in case they discontinue them.Quote:
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CHAMBERSBURG, PA -- Students at Chambersburg Area Senior High School here will soon get a hands-on introduction to vending by operating 40 of their own machines. These will be installed by CRH Catering Co. Inc. of Connellsville, PA, according to the local Public Opinion News.
Students will be responsible for ordering product, merchandising the machines, and keeping the equipment and areas around it clean.
Along with sodas, candies and crackers, the machines will be stocked with better-for-you alternatives.
Chambersburg high school principal Buddy Chapel described the venture as a "real-world experience" for students and said the idea came from his previous school, where vending machines were run by the PTA. The school board approved the plan on Sept. 12 by a 9-0 vote.
Chapel said machines will be placed throughout the building, but not near the cafeteria. They will be disabled during the 90-minute lunch period so as not to compete with the cafeteria.


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Blue Hens Fall to Saint Josephs 5-1 in Final Non-League Game of the Season
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The Hawks (30-11) were able earn the victory on the shoulders of a three-run fifth inning that gave them a lead they would not relinquish.
Delaware freshman pitcher Nick Moylan (1-1) gave up three earned runs in two innings of work and picked up his first collegiate loss for the Blue Hens. Saint Joseph's sophomore Matt Haskins (2-0) pitched a scoreless 1.1 innings and was credited for the victory for the Hawks.
Saint Joseph's drew first blood in the second inning when Kevin Kratochwill drove in a run on a groundout. Delaware then answered in the fourth inning on a two-out RBI double from Ryan Hartley.
The Blue Hens (21-22) were primed to establish a lead with the bases loaded and only one out in the fifth inning in a tie game, but Zach Lopes was unable to get a run home as he grounded into a double play to end the inning.
The Hawks then broke the game open with a three-run fifth inning that was highlighted by a base loaded two-RBI double from Brian Lau. Brian O'Keefe then added another run with an RBI triple. Saint Joseph's capped off its scoring in the eighth inning on a Stefan Kancylarz solo home run.
Lau, O'Keefe, and Kancylarz led the Hawks with three hits apiece and each had at least two extra-base hits in the winning effort.
The one run scored was the lowest offensive output from the Blue Hens against Saint Joseph's since 2003 and the lowest in a non-league game since Bryant downed Delaware 11-0 back on Mar. 21 of this year.
Saint Joseph's has now won 11 of its last 12 games and has defeated Delaware in four of its last five matchups.
The Blue Hens had their opportunities, but timely hitting was struggle as Delaware left nine runners on base in Tuesday's defeat. Freshman John Geffre made just his fourth career start and the right-hander only gave up one earned run on three hits in three innings pitched.
Joe Giacchino went 1-for-3 and with his walk in the third inning, the junior has now reached base safely in 22 consecutive games. Hartley and Ty Warrington were the only Blue Hens to register multi-hit games as the duo each recorded two hits in the game.
Kevin Milley and Taylor Mahoney combined to pitch the final three innings and only gave up one run on three hits.
The Blue Hens will next be in action Friday as they travel to Colonial Athletic Association foe Towson to begin a three-game weekend series. First pitch is slated for 3 p.m. at Towson's John B. Schuerholz Park.


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Team NorthSails ruling the FW Mendoza Race
The latest Event of the 2012 Formula Windsurfing South American Championships, held in Mendoza, Argentina from 03rd to 07th of April, was dominated by Team NorthSails. Team Rider Gonzalo Costa Hoevel (ARG-3) on his 11sqm WARP F2012 managed to win the race only one board lenght ahead of his team colleague and FW World Ranking Leader Paulo Dos Reis (BRA-3333), followed by NorthSails Team Rider Mathias Pinheiro (BRA-5).
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GREENSBORO, N.C --- The Atlantic Coast Conference and Big Ten announced on Thursday the matchups for the 2013 Big Ten/ACC Women's Basketball Challenge, and North Carolina will host Nebraska at Carmichael Arena on Dec. 5. This year's challenge will mark the seventh year of the event that has been extended to 2016.
Carolina is 4-2 in the current incarnation of the event after a thrilling 57-54 victory over No. 15 Ohio State last season in Chapel Hill. Tierra Ruffin-Pratt had steals that led to layups on consecutive possessions to secure the win late in regulation.
The 2013 home game against Nebraska will mark UNC's fourth home contest in the event, and the Tar Heels are 3-0 in Chapel Hill with wins over OSU in 2012, Iowa in 2010 and Purdue in 2007. Carolina has only faced the Huskers once in women's basketball, an 81-75 loss in Myrtle Beach, S.C., on Dec. 20, 1995.
Carolina will return starters Brittany Rountree and Xylina McDaniel from last year's squad that finished 29-7, finished second in the ACC and earned the No. 3 seed in the NCAA Bridgeport Region. In addition to welcoming back key reserves Latifah Coleman, Megan Buckland and Danielle Butts, the Tar Heels will also feature the nation's top-rated freshman class led by State Farm/WBCA and Naismith National Player of the Year Diamond DeShields.
Nebraska is also coming off a successful 2012-13 campaign that saw the Huskers advance to the NCAA regional semifinals for the second time in four seasons.
Challenge games will be contested in a two-day format, beginning Wednesday, Dec. 4. Georgia Tech and Florida State will host games on the first day, while Notre Dame and Virginia Tech will be on the road. On Dec. 5, Duke, Maryland, North Carolina and Virginia will host Big Ten foes, and NC State, Boston College, Syracuse and Miami visit their inter-conference foes.
A year ago, ACC teams combined for a 7-5 mark against its Big Ten counterparts to win its fifth Challenge title. The ACC owns a 41-27 edge over the Big Ten in the Challenge.
Wednesday, December 4
Notre Dame at Penn State
Illinois at Georgia Tech
Virginia Tech at Indiana
Michigan State at Florida State
Thursday, December 5
NC State at Northwestern
Boston College at Wisconsin
Syracuse at Iowa
Purdue at Duke
Ohio State at Maryland
Nebraska at North Carolina
Michigan at Virginia
Miami at Minnesota
Boston College: 2-3
Clemson: 2-4
Duke: 5-1
Florida State: 4-2
Georgia Tech: 5-1
Maryland: 6-0
Miami: 2-2
North Carolina: 4-2
NC State: 2-4
Virginia: 5-1
Virginia Tech: 2-4
Wake Forest: 2-3
Big Ten (27-41)
Illinois: 3-3
Indiana: 3-3
Iowa: 1-5
Michigan: 4-2
Michigan State: 4-2
Minnesota: 2-4
Nebraska: 0-2
Northwestern: 2-4
Ohio State: 2-4
Penn State: 2-4
Purdue: 1-5
Wisconsin: 3-3
North Carolina 57, Ohio State 54
Florida State 83, Iowa 69
Virginia Tech 47, Wisconsin 38
Duke 71, Michigan 54
Maryland 90, Nebraska 71
Purdue 85, Georgia Tech 73
Indiana 52, Clemson 49
Northwestern 67, Boston College 63
Miami 69, Penn State 65
Michigan State 68, NC State 51
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Coming down from the mountain to a new life in the city is a thrill to Miri. She and her princess academy friends have been brought to Asland to help the future princess Britta prepare for her wedding. There, Miri also has a chance to attend school - at the Queen's Castle. But as Miri befriends students who seem sophisticated and exciting she also learns that they have some frightening plans.
Torn between loyalty to the princess and her new friends' ideas, between an old love and a new crush, and between her small mountain home and the bustling city, Miri looks to find her own way in this new place.
Picking up where Princess Academy left off, and celebrating the joys of friendship, romance and the fate of fairy tale kingdoms, this new book delivers the completely delightful new story that fans have been waiting for.
©2012 Shannon Hale (P)2012 AudioGO
I'm the managing editor of the Fantasy Literature blog. Life's too short to read bad books!
"Not your typical princess tale"
4.5 stars. Originally posted at Fantasy Literature.
Palace of Stone is a sequel to Shannon Hale's excellent Newbery Honor-winning Middle Grade novel Princess Academy. You'll definitely want to read Princess Academy first, and to avoid spoilers, you should read it before you read this review. So, if you haven't read Princess Academy yet, go away and read it now. (Then come back, please.)
In Princess Academy, we met the poor hard-working uneducated families of Mount Eskel who survive by mining and carving linder, a valuable type of stone that they export to lowlanders. Their culture was changed when it was determined by lowlander priests that the next princess should come from Mount Eskel. To get the girls up to snuff, a "Princess Academy" was formed and all eligible Mount Eskel girls were enrolled.
(Here's where spoilers for Princes Academy start. I hope those of you who haven't read it yet are gone!)
Miri was one of the candidates for princess, but she wasn't chosen by Prince Steffan. However, she did learn to read and write, to do math, and she learned a lot about commerce. She used her knowledge to help her village negotiate better trading terms for their linder, and Mount Eskel has prospered.
In Palace of Stone, Miri is invited by her friend Britta (the girl who was chosen to be princess) to come to the capital city and attend school at the Queen's Castle. Peder, the boy she hopes to marry, will also be going to the capital to begin an apprenticeship with a master stone carver. As Miri travels to the city, she realizes that she is ignorant and rustic, and she's worried about how she'll represent her community. When she arrives, she not only experiences culture shock, but she discovers right away that the city is in a state of unrest and there are rumors of revolution. Soon she meets a boy named Timon who is eager to enlist Miri in the rebels' cause. Miri is torn because the princess is her dear friend, yet she sees that the King and his nobles have been unjust as they lord it over the commoners and demand taxes and tributes that leave the people destitute.
Fortunately, Miri is studying history and ethics at her new school and her position as a student and a friend to both the princess and the rebels will give her the perfect chance to practice what she is learning. The problem is that this is not just an academic exercise. Peoples' lives are at stake. If Miri speaks up, she endangers herself, the princess, many friends, and her community back home in Mount Eskel. It's a weighty challenge for a teenager.
There's a touch of romance in Palace of Stone, too, including a love triangle for Miri. She always thought she'd marry Peder, the sweet solid boy who just wants to learn to be a master carver and go back home to live on the mountain. He represents home for Miri. But Timon, who is kind, educated, well-traveled, and wants to make the world a better place, is equally appealing. Miri is torn between these two boys just as she is torn between her love of her mountain home and her desire to see and change the world. Miri's romantic struggle is sweet and realistic but, while it takes up a lot of Miri's thoughts, it's (fortunately) not the focus of the plot.
Palace of Stone is an excellent Middle Grade story that will be enjoyed by both boys and girls, and by adults, too. It features strong female characters who make good role models for teenage girls. As with the first book, the value of education is emphasized while the importance of the usual "princess" qualities — especially beauty and femininity — are down-played. Even the importance of intelligence and wit is de-emphasized. Miri asks knowledgeable adults for advice and she struggles to solve problems by applying the lessons she has learned in school, especially from her studies of history and ethics. She worries about the ramifications of her actions and is not always courageous. She realizes that her motives, ethical standards, and feelings of bravery change depending on whether it is strangers or the people she loves who are suffering. Miri spends her time thinking about all these things rather than worrying about how her hair looks or what she's going to wear.
Palace of Stone is an exciting and thoughtful story which I'll be passing on to my young daughters. I'm sure they'll enjoy it as much as I did. I listened to the audio version produced by AudioGo and Full Cast Audio. It was narrated by Cynthia Bishop and a cast of performers. This was a wonderful 8-hour production and even included music and singing. I highly recommend it.
The Forgotten Sisters, the third PRINCESS ACADEMY book, comes out in a couple of weeks. You can be sure that I'll be reviewing it soon.
"Reviewed as a comparison to Princess Academy,Book1"
I began with the first Princess Academy book and I loved it. Overall, Shannon Hale, with her other books (Enna Burning) is a great author.
The second book is a nice continuation of the first.
-I enjoyed the cute narration and musical quality that comes with Shannon Hale's audiobooks. The whole thing is a sensory experience and drew me into the story. I enjoy Full-Cast audio, multiple voices and sound effects. If you do too, then you will probably like this version.
-Cynthia Bishop, the narrator, emphasizes in the right places and shows that she really understands what she is reading.
-Teaches good morals for young girls (there is talk of muscles and dancing and kissing, so take that into consideration before letting young girls listen to this : ) *
-At times, the story felt boring. There is action, but it felt a little forced and I was left wanting more.
-Sometimes the music in the beginning was a little cheesy, even for me, because the songs at the beginning of some chapters sounded almost ridiculous (like someone imitating an Adam Sandler's Opera Man!)
-Many times when I thought the story would end, it kept going, as if the author couldn't decide on how to bring everything to a satisfying conclusion.
Overall, this was not Hale's best book (try Enna Burning), but it will not stop me from listening to her other titles. I enjoy the light-hearted purity of all of her stories. *It would be great for 6th graders to listen to.
"HATED the performance!"
Maybe a child wouldn't mind the terrible, stilted performances of the various voice actors...
I loved Miri, as always. She is smart and real.
Let one person, an actual actor or voice-over actor, do the reading!!!! The people doing the various voices were so wooden and bad that I finally had to stop listening and just check the book out at the library.
The book was great. Shannon Hale never disappoints. However, the reading performance made me more and more irritated, to the point that I couldn't stand to listen another minute.
I LOVE Shannon Hale and I love most audiobooks. But this recording was almost as bad as listening to Lemony Snicket read his own books--in other words, unpalatable!
"Great book"
I love it👍❕😍
Easy to read
I read it in a day
I like the other books in the series
"I love it"
I love this book! so many funny parts and so many intense parts:) I would tell anyone it read it:)
"Palace of stone"
This book is awesome series is very well written and read enjoyed it all love to hear more
"Not a great recording"
I really enjoy the story but it really bothered me that they changed the cast.
Miri is brave and wonderful like the book. I will enjoy the very next series!!!
I love clean books of all sorts. Love mysteries, fantasies epic to kids stories, fairy tales, romances, humor, and historical fiction
"Great Second Book in Series"
I really enjoyed this book. I've read all of Shannon Hale's books and have enjoyed almost all of them. I particularly like alternative forms of magic and quarry speech feels like one of those. Who would have thought that up? Not me. Anyway, I enjoyed the ethical and governmental questions as well as the love interests in this book. I thought it ended well and wonder if there will be another. I think this book could easily stand alone, but it would probably be best to read Princess Academy first. I also thought it was interesting how much power quarry speech had in the palace as well as other interesting effects on those who live there. Interesting and fun. All of Shannon Hale's books are clean. The children's books are very clean. That is a relief to those of us who worry about the books available to children everywhere. If you enjoy light fantasy written for the young and young at heart, you will probably enjoy this book.
"Hale's Lyrical Magic Continues"
Shannon Hale writes lyrically of the lives of young men and women as they are deciding who to be in the world. Palace of Stone continues the tale begun in Princess Academy, allowing us to watch Miri as she acclimates to life in the city and the poltical forces present there. We watch as she learns whom to trust and how to work her way through situations with no clear right or wrong answers. This is a novel for adults of allages, not just young adults.
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does sake still get up like he used to? and loes??
how the *nuts*!?!
anyways, i don't live in montreal.. but ive come to find that the stuff that used to be up, like old school sake/damo/loes/shok is my favorite stuff.. they just killed walls, like 6 bombs in a row all different writers, gaaang style. anyone else agree?


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Re: Boat Buying Costs
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If I get stuck with something called "Air Supply" I may need to get my stomach pumped. Cheers!G
Re: Boat Buying Costs
You got some great info here so apologies if I duplicate.
Much will depend on your local tax/registration environment, and if you are in salt or fresh water.
Regarding the purchase:
- Survey - you have local prices.
- Transfer (I am in the US) $250+ plau registration fees to check and transfer title.
- Registration fees.
- Local sales tax.
- Around here we also have to pay property tax.
- Insurance.
- BoatUS /tow service membership.
- Slip advance/deposit to marina.
Immediately following purchase
- Bottom job (generally): $2k+
- Immediate safety and critical repairs (per survey)
- Missing items, e.g. charts, tools, spares, new flares, cleaning materials, wax, log book, maintenance log, etc etc
- Some new lifejackets, foulies etc; you may already have some, but you'll want some new ones BECAUSE YOU NOW OWN A BOAT! YAY!
- Often newly purchased boats need new batteries, as old ones died of neglect while boat was for sale. You battery bank will need to be replaced every few years, depending on usage; infrequent but fairly expensive.
Year one is normally rough, often ~20% of purchase price getting the boat up to a condition you are happy with. Then 10-15% a year for maintenance is typical, PLUS keep a special extra fund set aside towards big ticket upgrade/replacements, e.g. new sails, lifelines, standing rigging, etc. The "special fund" is important as the time will fly by, and that 5-year old sail with plenty of life in it will suddenly be getting a bit tired....
Oh, yeah, regular maintenance; If you are in salt water:
- Your hull will need to be cleaned (diver); for me, monthly in summer, a couple of times over winter (I can sail all year round :-)) - but I don't race, otherwise weekly.
- New zincs, depending, say every 9 months
- Haulout and bottom paint, every12-24 months, depending on conditions, paint selection, number of coats
- Wood/Brightwork maintenance - obviously depends on boat; annually or more
- Canvas maintenance. Most boats here get they jibs "tuned" (e.g. UV protection resewn) every year
- Service winches annually (cheap to do yourself, once you have grease/oil)
- What other people have been saying: engine maintenance (new filters, oil, impeller) every year, plus ongoing general upgrading/replacing/fixing.
Good luck!
Re: Boat Buying Costs
Originally Posted by BarryL View Post
Maybe this will help. It's a lit of all work done on my boat since I purchased it in december 2006. Some of the costs are exact (where I recorded it) others are my estimated recollections.
That is perfect! Thank you! Even if the prices aren't consistent, I can at least get a clear idea of regular maintenance tasks. I can also review your list for questions I can ask of a potential marina.
I'm very grateful for the level of detail you've provided. In your honour, I shall re-christen the head "Barry".
Re: Boat Buying Costs
Maybe this will help. It's a list of all work done on my boat since I purchased it in december 2006. Some of the costs are exact (where I recorded it) others are my estimated recollections. I am afraid to total it all up. Additional costs not listed include ~$2000 each year for haulout, bottom wash, mast removal and storage, moving the boat to a winter storage yard (where I can work on it) and splashing in the spring, $150 or so for mooring permit, $150 to have the mooring hauled in the fall and $150 to have the mooring dropped in the spring.
3/10/13 Order new furler - Selden Furlex 200S. $2800
quote to have standing rigging replaced $5000 (which includes new furler)
12/11 Change oil, oil filter, and fuel filter (R24S 10 micron) $50
11/27 James installes new lifelines ($3030 for new lifelines and 4 stanchions and bases)
11/19 R+R Bent stanchions and stanchion bases.
11/18 Move DTR to Oldman's dock. Winterize fresh water system.
November - DTR is damaged by super storm sandy. See 'Hurricane'
October - change fresh water diverter valve $50
August - new Main sail from UK $2700
6/1 Move boat to dock and commission water system. Boat can be sailed.
5/31 Put sails on and tune rig.
5/30 Boat is on mooring (moved by Old Man). Lauren I do put boom on, run rigging and connect mast wiring. Too windy to put sails on.
5/15 Boat is ready for launch. Old Man can't launch until Monday 5/21 and we are on vacation from 5/22 to 5/29.
5/15 pick up mainsail and dodger from Wedekind. $250 for mainsail repairs (leech, batten pockets). $275 for dodger repair (new window and zipper stiching).
5/14 repair mast wires for anchor light and steaming / deck light
5/12 poliglow stb side. install new batteries (Costco 27DC 115 AH, 750 MCA), wash decks, paint prop (est $300 for 3 batteries)
5/11 poliglow port side
5/6 paint bottom (SR 40) (est 2 gallons at $150 each plus supplies, say $400 total)
5/5 rig check. Need to repair anchor light wiring
5/4 Clean hull w/Poliprep. Clean bottom. Hull is ready for PiloGlow and bottom paint. Test run engine, runs great. Batteries are old and shot.
4/16 R+R shaft Zinc. Service all boat winches (not mast winch)
4/14 Sand Bottom Paint - complete (est $50 for supplies)
3/28 Sand bottom paint. Starboard front half complete.
3/23 Sand bottom paint. Port side complete (except for under jack pads)
3/21 Sand bottom paint. Completed about 25% (port rear half)
3/17 rewire - new jumper from ignition to glow plug. New jumper from glow plug (hot side) to start switch. Clean start switch solenoid wire (yellow with red stripe). Clean fuse in that line. Run additional glow plug power line and clean glow plug connections. ($75 for switches and wires)
3/3 install new glow plug switch
2/21 install new bird spikes on spreaders
12/15 - removed wind instrument -checks OK. Broken wire from mast.
12/4 boat covered
11/19 boat winterized and gear brought home
11/14 boat hauled
11/13 change oil and filter (3879 hours) (estimate $50)
11/9 last sail. Solo
6/15 re-seal exhaust flange to prevent water coming in when motoring
6/12 new jib sheets (Cajun XLS) ($100 I think)
5/26 headsail leach and foot line replaced ($250)
5.20 new lazy jack lines
5/11 boat launched
5/3 paint prop with antifoul
5/1 clean, poliprep, poliglow hull
4/23 scrub bottom with stuff brush to remove dead paint and expose new paint
4/22 Replace STBD port line clutch, Repair instrument mount, new prop shaft zinc
11/13 Unload gear for winter
11/10 change oil. Boat hauled for winter
8/29 New oars and oarlocks – last ones lost during vacation storm
6/12 install new water heater, new engine water pump, new thermostat
($240 for water heater $100 for water pump, $20 for T Stat)
6.5 remove engine water pump
5/21 Remove Hot Water heater
5/12 Hot water heater is leaking and needs to be replaced.
5/7 Water system commissioned, 2 new lights installed. All mast wired connected. Boat ready for the season
May - new SH GX2150 VHF and command mic $350
4/26 move boat to mooring. Put boom on. Engine ran hot – bled 3 times. Better?
4/23 boat launched (not in yard, have not heard from OMBY)
4/21 finish poliglow, prep for launch
4/20 Clean topsides, poliglow starboard side
4/19 paint bottom (SR 40 entire family) ($500 for all?)
4/15 Clean, lighten, oil teak. Test run engine (raw water hoses were reversed). Engine started and ran great. Wash topsides
4/14 wash and wax decks
4/7 Rudder installed. Wire rope is not run correctly
4/1 install new water pump, HX, drain and add new coolant
3/24 finish sanding port
3/17 finish sanding stb side, do ½ of port side
3/9 sand stb ½ of boat w/60 grit
2/25 New shaft (1" X 49"), coupling, packing box hose, clamps, etc.
2/5 Clean engine compartment and bilge
2/5 New Cutless beating (OMBY) - $1000 for all driveline work
1/20 January - Prop shat removed, cutless bearing removed. Shaft log removed (OMBY)
Heat exchanger removed, cleaned $75
Walts Radiator 928 1220
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December – drop rudder (remove quadrant)
11/16/09 Boat hauled
11/16 Change oil and filter, 8 gallons diesel
12/15 remove rudder
11/20 boat hauled
May: New main and jib halyards (Yale Aracom T $500)
4/6 New start battery $100
Spring - Pettitt Ultima SSA
2008 Work
11/22 – cover boat, connect solar power
11/10 – winterize hot water side (blow out lines)
11/8 Winterize – remove sails, winterize cold water (drain hot water, need to blow out HW lines). Winterize head and holding tank, bring home electronics, remove impeller (blades cracked).
11/6 Boat hauled
11/1 Change oil. Add 5 gallons of fuel. 3727 hours
10/10 56' StaysetX for main sheet
8/6 - 15 gallons of fuel. Scrub boat bottom
7/25 - engine doesn't start (does not turn over). clean all wiring connections
July - new exhaust system after NYC trip (hard pipes only, not waterlift muffler) (work performed by yard Mechanic, estimate of $300)
5/08 New headsail – 140% UK Passagemaker $2780
4/26 –Engine doesn't start, replace Facet fuel pump
4/25 - Launch day
4/08 bottom done (fair keel, barrier coat, bottom paint - Pettitt Hydrocoat), poliglow
3/08 Sand bottom, keel.
2/08 Boat bottom soda blasted. Don at All Surface Soda Blasting. $1700 for everything. He did a great job.
2007 Work
12/3/07 send Datamarine Wind Machine to DMI Inc. for repair
11/07 - start bottom paint removal
11/1/07 Boat hauled
10/07 change oil, filter, air filter, tension alt belt - 3685 hours
9/07 change macerator
9/07 tighten stuffing box, clean bilge
7/07 Repair starboard winch
6/07 Service winches (lose shaft and bearing overboard). New gears in port lazarette
5/07 Lowrance LMS337CDF ($550), SH GX1500 w/ command mic $240
4/07 New jib sheets, remove old name, new plow anchor, new mainsheet blocks and routing of sheet, install new name (estimate $500)
3/07 Change engine oil, filter, fill fuel tank, fill propane tanks, new propane lines, repair glow plugs (wiring bad), coolant, fuel filters, engine zinc, refrig pulley and belt, radio installed, bilge pump re-wired, 12V meter installed
1/07 new house battery ($200)
See on Yachtworld. Listed at $xxxxx make offer 11/06/06 for $xxK. Offer is rejected, increase to $xxK, which is accepted. See boat 11/10 and leave deposit. Survey scheduled for 11/17
Purchased 11/27/06 from Kelly Finkenworth. $xxxxxxxxx
Warren Trafton broker.
Barnaby Blatch Surveyor
Jack Neades Delivery Captain
$44 X 2, + 2 X 2 for trip to see boat 11/10
same plus $595 (survey) $650 (Haul) on 11/17 for survey
$200 car rental, $300 Jack, $50 (ferry) for delivery
Delivery was 11/27/06 - Newport to Noank
11/28, Noank to Mt. Sinai
Re: Boat Buying Costs
Originally Posted by mysterybee View Post
Hi Faster,
This is a bit off-topic but it is something else I've been interested in. What, specifically, do you do yourself? ........
We've also never had a lot of free spending money so in many cases our DIY projects were a matter of necessity over desire. And most of this in the days before the 'internet instruction manual' era.
So to be specific, over the years we've swapped engines, rebuilt an engine, modified interior layouts, rebuilt structural sections, installed all our upgrades and added hardware, top-to-bottom Awlgrip repaint, we do all the routine annual maintenance - bottom paint, prop servicing, zincs etc, filter and oil changes, water pump service/replacement etc.
Canvas work, upholstery, rigging components, sails, SS fabrication, welding etc we've left to the pros.
It's not for everyone but I'd suspect that there are plenty of us here in more or less the same space. And there's a tradeoff.. We repainted a 40 footer topsides and deck, added an anchor locker and cockpit lazarette access prior to painting the deck and painted the rig.. a 4-6 week project and it cost us about $6K all up.. the same job by a pro would have run into probably $15-20K so we 'saved' a bundle.. did it look as good as the pro would have done? Not a chance..
Re: Boat Buying Costs
Originally Posted by Faster View Post
We do most things ourselves, and that's a considerable savings over time. Occasionally it's true we may have been better off hiring a pro, but all in all we've been satisfied with most of the work we took on ourselves.
This is a bit off-topic but it is something else I've been interested in. What, specifically, do you do yourself? I've done very minor electrical/plumbing/carpentry work around the house, but I'd be reluctant to start taking a boat motor apart. Can you give me some examples of tasks you trusted yourself to do right away vs those that you wanted to watch a professional do first before taking it on?
I'm still pricing yacht clubs/marinas in the area, but given the lack of availability, I may find my decision already made for me. Also, I'm not clear on the need for de-stepping the mast. Is it absolutely necessary or is it a matter of personal preference?
Oh, and I think I may need a link to a boat re-naming ceremony. If I get stuck with something called "Air Supply" I may need to get my stomach pumped.
Re: Boat Buying Costs
Originally Posted by SloopJonB View Post
A similar thing used to happen to Jaguars - the low buy in deceived people into thinking they could afford it.
Host said, "Absolutely not true. A Jaguar will definitely not nickel and dime you to death. When a Jaguar reaches into your pocket it is going to be looking for 50's and 100's, not nickels and dimes."
Same thing applies to boats. A boat will never nickel and dime you to death.
Re: Boat Buying Costs
A survey from a SAMS Accredited Surveyor in Southern Ontario will cost $17.00/ft plus HST. There are a couple of surveyors around who will do it for $9.00/ft and they are worth every penny
Sea trials are an additional cost of about $80.00 per hr. if you want the surveyor to come along.
You will also have to pay the cost of the lift (approx. $500.00 depending on which marina) if the boat is in water.
Re: Boat Buying Costs
MB... another huge factor in actual costs is your desire/ability to do things yourself. Paying marine tradesmen $75-100/hr adds to the overall picture in a hurry.
We do most things ourselves, and that's a considerable savings over time. Occasionally it's true we may have been better off hiring a pro, but all in all we've been satisfied with most of the work we took on ourselves. There is the occasional 'do I want to do that'.. for example though my wife is a very accomplished seamstress she elected to hire out the upholstery. It didn't hurt that we found a great vendor/supplier at a good price.
Doing as much as you can will make you comfortably familiar with the boat too.....
Re: Boat Buying Costs
Hi Sloop,
Since you brought it up, yes I am a professional project manager, so research and planning are part of my DNA. As I mentioned earlier, while I want to be aware of one-off costs, they are not my primary concern. I want to familiarize myself with the consistent, predictable expenditures that I will be able to expect on an annual basis.
I realize not everyone shares my enthusiasm for detail management, but I was hoping I could find one or two people who could help me put together a respectable spreadsheet.
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Does anyone have a resceipe for dyeing a ROTJ jumpsuit? I have a white jumpsuit and not sure how to dye it to get the right color. :confused
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Does anyone have a resceipe for dyeing a ROTJ jumpsuit? I have a white jumpsuit and not sure how to dye it to get the right color. :confused
I hope it's 100% cotton!!! ;)
Synthetics, like Polyester, don't like being dyed, and poly-cotton blends are notoriously hard to dye. :)
I don't have a recipe myself. I think I'm just going to end up buying 2 gray Dickies worksuits or something. :facepalm
It's got to be cotton.
I dyed mine, starting from a light grayish beige. However, I did preproduction. Just look at the color of the jumpsuit and see what colors are in THAT color. For istance, the prepro suit is gray, green, and blue. Start with the lightest color first. I dyed my suit in that order, first gray, then green, then blue, using RIT powder dye. I believe I used another gray after I did the blue, and that made it perfect. You can use RIT dye remover to fade out the color if you make it too dark. You'll use each dye one at a time, in a separate wash for each. After you are all done with the dyes, run the washer with a load of just like 1/4-1/2 cup of bleach, then with a load of detergent (no clothes in the washer for either load). This will keep the dye from getting on your clothes the next time you do laundry.
If I were to do an ROTJ starting with white, I would use a light tan, then gray, and possibly another color of gray after that (light gray then dark gray). If the color was not exactly right, or seemed to "warm", I would add 1/4 package of blue and see what happens. But...no guarantees. I haven't ever tried to do the ROTJ color.
IMO, the only way to get the correct color is by dying, or possibly by special order fabric if you can ever find it. The fabric color looks streaky, and RIT dyes will give you just that. Dickies do not look right.
First off, can you dye a Dickies? My seamstress isnt going to get don in time for halloween, so i bought a short sleave Dickies suit. I'll use the material I bought to add the pouches and sleaves. If it can be dyed, is there a recipe for the ROTJ suit? Help!!!
First off, is it all cotton, or a 65/35 poly/cotton blend?
If it's all cotton, you can bleach it (with Rit color remover), then dye it (with your choice of Rit).
If it's poly/cotton, 6 packages of Rit color remover will make it about *2* shades lighter, but that's about it. Dyeing it is just about as bad... :(
Synthetics don't like to be dyed. Another reason NOT to buy a nylon girth! ;)
Its the freakin polyester blend. Damn the luck. Two steps forward, one step back....
Did you buy the "gray" Dickies?
Yes I did....
I had a poly-cotton nightmare! the suit was slightly to dark so I decided to bleach it, a couple of cap fulls, checking every ten minutes, nothing. Half a bottle, checking every half hour, nothing..hmmmm four bottles in a large bucket, boiling water, left overnight he he...nothing....
answer: went out and bought another suit the right colour this time (am I just lazy)
Ok, I have a 65/35 mix, white jump suit from JC Penny. As far as white jumpsuits go, it's very nice. But, it's not 100 percent cotton, So, should I :
a) toss it (wasted 35 bucks) and get a different jumpsuit
b) dye it (will it dye?)
c) spray paint and steel wool?
I bought the same exact jumpsuit/overalls from JC Pennies. The white one that is made by BIG MAC. Dont throw it away, JC accepts returns from catalogs without a restocking fee. I am keeping mine though. I know dying it will be a mistake so I will most likely airbrush it. :)
LOL Now I feel stupid... I just noticed this thread is almost a year old! LOL!
all of the jumpsuits that Ive made are made of twill and are a poly cotton blend. They started off white.
To dye my Boba, I used RIT Pearl Gray dye (powder) and a tiny sprinkle of blue rit dye. I filled my washing machine tub with boiling (yes boiling) water. I let the dye mix with the boiling water and then put the fabric in. Once the wash cycle was over, I would re-set the machine again. I continued to do this for hours, and kept adding boiling water to keep it HOT.
Here is a pic of my Boba :fettesb suit using this method, and also my Jango:jango (which due to the deep color saturation took MULTIPLE DYE BATHS to get it right).
I got a 35/65 blend that is too grey/blue for ROTJ jumpsuit.. anyone has any experiance with going the other way.. bleaching??
Damn, my jumpsuit is 80% polyester.... see i've bleached it 3 times now, and it almost appears to have gotten darker ;) Thanks for the heads up. Next time i'll get cotton
I have the same type of jumpsuit material 35% and 65% blend. I cant seem to find that type of rit dye color. Guess I need to check out Village Crafts "Michaels Craft Store". I hear they have a permenant dye for polyester cotten blends. I want the greenish look from ROTJ.


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"Last summer we had 13.4 million visitors come to New Hampshire and spend $1.83 billion and this year we expect the season to be on par or better," said Freligh.
Gas prices have risen in New Hampshire over the last few weeks, but are still below the national average. The website Gasbuddy.com puts the average retail price for a gallon of gas at $3.45 in New Hampshire as of Thursday, up 1.9 cents in the last week. That puts current prices 23.9 cents per gallon lower than the same day a year ago, but 2.8 cents per gallon higher than a month ago.
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Fox Pumps Big Oil's Claim To Be Suffering From "Reptile Dysfunction"
The June 2 broadcast of Fox & Friends devoted two segments to hyping GOP lawmakers' and oil companies' claims that a Texas lizard will cost "thousands of Texas oil jobs" and could cause "the price of gas [to] go up as well."
The segments centered on this: environmental groups have long been asking the Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS) to list the dunes sagebrush lizard [1] -- whose habitat in New Mexico and Texas has been severely threatened by "oil and gas activities, and herbicide treatments" -- as an endangered species. Oil companies and Texas lawmakers say the listing would harm the oil and gas industry in the Permian Basin, an area of prolific oil fields in which the lizards' habitat is located. Environmentalists say such claims are greatly exaggerated and that the area of affected land is very small.
Of course, you can guess how this unfolded [2] on the very environmentally-unfriendly [3] Fox News Channel [4]. First, co-host Steve Doocy invited Texas Land Commissioner Jerry Patterson, a vocal opponent [5] of designating the lizard as an endangered species, on the show to explain how the designation could, in Doocy's words, cost "thousands of Texas oil jobs" and cause "the price of gas [to] go up." From the show:
DOOCY: But I know you guys are in a pickle down there. In fact, you describe this situation with the lizard as what?
PATTERSON: Well, we call it down here reptile dysfunction, because that's exactly what it is. It can put a dysfunctional situation on oil and gas exploration production in Texas.
DOOCY: OK, so we showed a little picture of that little lizard. Now, we did this story yesterday, talking about how thousands of Texas oil jobs could actually become extinct if that thing is put on that list. How would that happen?
PATTERSON: Well, if you cannot go through your normal process of bid sales for leases and -- we made almost a third of a billion dollars last spring just for the right to drill. And all that money in Texas goes to public education.
DOOCY: Right.
PATTERSON: So this is a big deal. When you start taking an area of Texas, the Permian Basin, which is probably the most prolific field in the lower 48 states -- you take that and you put this pall over production, exploration and production, then you bring it to a screeching halt. You could actually impact the price of the gas in the United States by, you know, by the speculators, whatever you want to call them --
DOOCY: Sure.
PATTERSON: -- that will react to the news of another area that's off-limits to exploration and production.
DOOCY: So not only would thousands of people lose their jobs, but the price of gas would go up as well and, that -- you know, it's important to keep those things alive, but how many are there?
PATTERSON: Well, I don't think anybody knows. I mean, they did a very cursory inspection. Their data is collected four years ago. They had a policy that if they went out in a particular area and they didn't find a lizard within one hour, they said that, you know, it's endangered, and you can't just look at the lizard on the ground. You got to catch him. You got to turn him over on his belly, and you got to count the number of scales down around his abdomen.
DOOCY: You're kidding.
PATTERSON: It's not something you can identify from afar. So I'm not sure the lizard is extinct or is endangered as they say it is. The science is insufficient. And this is a very severe economic impact, not just for Texas, but for the entire United States.
Later during the broadcast, Fox Business host Eric Bolling -- Fox's favorite shill [6] for the oil industry [7] -- also appeared on the show to explain how the lizard's listing could "shoot gasoline prices up":
DOOCY: [S]peaking of gas, a little while ago we had the Texas land commissioner on our program--
BOLLING: I heard that.
DOOCY: -- talking about the sand dune lizard which if it is -- apparently it is endangered, and they're worried about it becoming extinct. If that is placed on the endangered species list, thousands of people could be, in the Texas oil industry, kicked out of work because they need to protect that thing that nobody can find.
BOLLING: Right. And millions of barrels of oil will be pulled off the market. That will shoot gasoline prices up. This is the Endangered Species Act list that these environmental groups, like the Center for Biological Diversity, this guy who put that thing on the map, that lizard on the map, he's now come forward with another one. It's a one-inch seahorse, hopefully we have a picture of it, I sent it in, I hope we have it -- one inch sea horse in the Gulf of Mexico. They're trying to get that -- that little guy right there --
GRETCHEN CARLSON (co-host): It's cute, Eric.
BOLLING: Cute as he is, you can't ride him, and what they want to do is blame that guy for kind of becoming extinct, so they want to stop drilling in the Gulf of Mexico.
BOLLING: Millions and millions of barrels of our oil.
CARLSON: So wait a minute. Do you think it's a political situation?
BOLLING: No, no. Here is what they do. It is. It's all political. They put these things, they bring literally thousands of lawsuits, and they try and get these things on the list. Mr. Obama has a green agenda. No question about it. Steven Chu is green; he's the Energy Secretary. Ken Salazar, the Interior Secretary -- also very green, permatoriums and what not. The new guy, this is very important -- the guy that he, Obama nominated on Tuesday for the commerce secretary job, his name is John Bryson. There are those of us who watch this stuff carefully -- you can almost call him an eco-terrorist. He is --
DOOCY: What?
BOLLING: He is so pro-green.
Let's take these one at a time.
First of all, there has been no report finding that "thousands of Texas oil jobs could become extinct" if the dunes sagebrush lizard is listed as endangered. That's certainly what oilmen and Republican lawmakers have claimed. But here's what Fox didn't tell you. As The Houston Chronicle reported on May 30 [5]:
The lizard, [environmentalists] say, has a specific habitat that accounts for 600,000 acres, or less than 1 percent, of all oil lands in the Permian Basin.
"There is more than enough land to explore and drill and to protect the dunes sagebrush lizard," said Noah Greenwald, director of the endangered species program for the Center for Biological Diversity.
A May 6 NYT Greenwire post [8] also noted (emphasis in the original):
Under a listing, federal agencies including the Bureau of Land Management and the Agriculture Department's Natural Resources Conservation Service would be required to consult with FWS and obtain "biological opinions" for permitting activities that could affect the lizard. The vast majority of projects are allowed to proceed if they implement conservation measures to mitigate impacts to species, FWS said.
"Overall, we anticipate that effects to oil and gas and ranching operations should be minimal, but there may be delays due to the time required to complete [ESA] consultations or the HCP process," the agency said in a fact sheet (pdf) on its website. "There should be no significant time delays for those participating in the CCA/CCAA."
As for the implication that the data is unclear about how many lizards there are, and Bolling's claims that this lizard's potential listing is part of Obama's "green agenda," the FWS actually agreed to list the lizard in 2004. As The Houston Chronicle noted:
The Tucson, Ariz.-based group [Center for Biological Diversity] petitioned the federal government to list the lizard as an endangered species in 2002, arguing that increased oil and gas activity on public lands in New Mexico had left the species without enough habitat to survive. Ranchers also made the situation worse by using a herbicide spray to remove shinnery oak [the lizard's habitat], which is toxic to cattle.
Fish and Wildlife Service officials agreed to list the lizard in 2004 but did not formally propose it until last December because of a backlog of other animals facing greater peril. A final decision will be made in December.
So that would have been...under the Bush administration. Does Bolling think the Bush administration, too, was "so pro-green?"
Finally, even in the event that the lizard somehow shut down entire regions of Texas oil production -- a baseless projection being tossed out by oil companies -- small changes in domestic oil production do not lead to huge changes in price at the gas pump. As Media Matters [9] has repeatedly [10] documented, experts have agreed that because crude oil is a global commodity, changes in domestic production rarely affect the price, which is set by global supply and demand.
Hmm. Sounds like these little lizards aren't threatening big oil as much as Fox would have us believe.
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