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|Second Skin Rep
Which law is that?
1. according to OSHA we not required to give MSDS sheet to consumers at all, but can do so at our own free will. MSDS sheets are for people that work with the products on a daily basis.
2. The products youare requesting an MSDS sheet for are Non Harzardous articals which, according to OSHA do not require an MSDS sheet. The only reason we have an MSDS sheet is for our suppliers that require them from their vendors dispite OSHA regulations
Here is some reading for you:
The purpose of an MSDS sheet to to inform people that are working with hazardous chemicals on a regular basis to the dangers & precautions of that chemical as well as the action required if exposed in a dangerous way.
Sending you an MSDS sheet seems to be nothing more than egaging in a pissing match which I am not interested in joining.
If you want an MSDS sheet, you will need to send a formal request through a legit channel. Today is Sunday, and I am at home, not in a possition to provide you with one, and really not all that interested either.
Your request can be made to:
the law says simply and clearly:
"The public has a right to MSDS data upon request."
I am requesting a copy of the Dampifier and Damplifier Pro MSDS sheets.
|Second Skin Rep
What might you hope to see with our MSDS?
What do in case you accidentally ingest our product?
ASTM rating? Sure.. we have them.
We don't publish them though. In comparison to other companies that inflate and exaggerate their ASTM results, ours look pathetic. We are left to either lie and inflate our numbers or look incompetent in the shadow of lies that other companies chose to publish in lieu of accurate numbers.
We choose not to publish our numbers because of these exact exaggerations.
I am not too concerned with "ending up in court" as I have not mentioned any competitors by name and have not said anything that is not absolutely true. It is the shady companies that are selling toxic asphalt as vibration dampers that should be worried about ending up in court..
a "friendly" suggestion...
"let sleeping dogs lie!!!!"
your product was a top rated in the "shoot out" and speaks for itself!!!!
if you want to post competitor negatives then back it up with independent scientific testing results...
(or you can end up in court)
I would like to read the MSDS sheet on your product and any ASTM testing results if you can post a link..
|Second Skin Rep
Lots of info in this thread. Some good some bad.
I will start by saying this:
This topic has been discussed at length for more than 5 years on various car audio boards, and many of the same conclusions have been drawn, but as a results of the topic having such a lengthy life, much of the misinformation has been sorted out.
The people on the car audio forums that were using the Peel and seal product form home depot or Lowes found that stuff melts, and doesn't last more than 2 years in most cases. Sometimes it does though. It really depends on the temperature.
The asphalt mats look very similar to real vibration damping, but they are nothing even close.
Many people use them to save money, which is understood, but there are some significant drawbacks to using a roofing product in a car.
1. Asphalt is toxic a gives off gasses when it heats up.
2. Asphalt melts at 180 degrees 100% of the time. There is no getting around this fact. If it lasts longer than one season, consider yourself lucky.
3. Asphalt is not elastomeric, so it will not convert vibrations in to heat ( a necessary part of energy conversion for constraint layer viscoelastic dampers (CLVED) to work)
4.The foil is too thin. Aluminum foil on a CLVED has to be at least 3 mils to constraint the elastomeric layer enought to reduce vibrations.
5. They do not weigh enough. The asphalt mats only weight about .3 lbs per sq foot. This would not be too bad if they were true CLVED, but they are not. so, the only way the asphalt mat are able to help with vibration reduction is by adding weight to the panel. This is not very efficient or effective when the product weighs so little.
The problem is that they mats look very similar to real CLVD mats and so there are a number of companies that sell them to customers that do not know the difference. Many of the companies that have been suggested in this very thread are guilty of this betrayal.
After all, the product has black adhesive with silver foil. Why would anyone think any differently?!
I am not going to point out any names of my shady competitors in this thread, but I will tell you guys an industry secret. This industry secret is 100% accurate 100% of the time.
There is not a sound deadening manufacturer in the entire indutry that puts a constraint layer damper on a roll right off the extruder. Not one.
If it comes on a roll, it was originally designed by the manufacture to go on a roof. Companies that sell foil backed vibration dampers on rolls (even butyl ones) by them from roofing mastic manufacturers and then sell them to the public as vibration dampers.
Without exception!
Companies that make CLVED mats which are designed to go in automobiles have much higher standards to live up to than those that produce roofing products. The product they (we) produce come in sheet form only.
1. The foil needs to be flat and non-creased in order to work at 100%
2. the foil is too thick to roll up - Look at the Dynamat extreme door kit. This is a kit that is rolled up AFTER it comes off the line. IF you get your hands on one you will see how difficult it is for them to roll up and put in the box.
3. Dampers in sheet form are easier to get applied by OEM companies.
4. CLVED are designed at the specific viscosity that is required to reduce the most amount of automotive vibrations, while rolled, roofing products are set to the exact viscosity to work on a roof. On a roof, there is very little need to a specific viscosity, which is why there is so much variance between batches or asphalt materials. Some batches of asphalt work decent, while other fail right off the line (when used in cars). The QC for asphalt mats is nothing even close to the QC for CLVED.
There are lots of reasons why using a roofing product in a car is a bad idea, and lots of reasons why true vibration dampers will outperform them every time.
If anyone has any sound deadening questions, I am always happy to help, whether you use Second Skin or not.
|Thanks to you & Dan for the advice. I'm a master at the "ah, sh*#" approach to mechanical work & developing a similar expertise for electrical work.
it is wiser to complete the truck to the point that you can test drive it with just a drivers seat and de-bug everything mechanical and electrical....
(that's also going to tell you what areas need sound deadener and how much insulation thickness and air drafts/noises sealing and rattles etc,,,the empty shell amplifies everything)
my $.02:
for sure do not trim the carpet at all till everything is absolutely finalized...
there are just way to many "risks" to do a car out of correct/normal sequence,,,,interior is one of the last parts installed....
1950 pick up=only about 8 circuits to deal with,,,"gitter done now" so you can install the harnesses and individual wires with the best protected routing.....
(or you likely will be "one step forwards two steps back" and a couple of "ah sh##" later in the project)
|Do yourself a favor and get the vehicle wired first. Get everything you need to do to complete the car mechanically done before the interior goes in. Naturally, you can do things like sun visors, seats, and door panels without having the wiring done, as long as you don't install the stuff til the car is ready.
LOL. That's why I put "arguments" in quotes - it was clear that nobody in this thread takes themselves too seriously. In another thread concerning using SMC engines vs. other ones, a few members, while making good points from their own situations, are a bit dogmatic & intolerant of the circumstances of others who may not have pockets as deep as theirs (yes, I used a Chevy 350 crate engine because it was the cheapest alternative for a reliable new engine, but I also like how clean it looks with the distributer at the rear) - sort of like the Harley guys who maintain that the last "real" Harley was a flathead/panhead/shovelhead/etc. (depending, naturally, on what they own or want to own) - & sneer at anything else.
On to a question for you guys, since most of you seem to have done several builds & this is my first, and maybe only, one. Would I be causing myself grief by doing the interior work before doing the rewiring I also need to do on my entire truck (see my bio for a description)? I already have most of what I need to do the interior & I won't get around to the wiring until sometime this summer. Advice/warnings would be appreciated! Other than the heat/noise insulation stuff you've been talking about & carpet instead of a rubber mat, I'm going to do a pretty close to stock interior.
glad you enjoyed the thread, thanks....
LOL, at our age,,, "grumpy old men" is the norm!!!!
nah, not a argument at all,,,Dan just asked for further explanation,,,so that "you" can be the judge!!!!
you will find the same back and forth banter between members in all the HR forums and that is what does make this site better than most!!
(atleast more entertaining to read???)
|I have to agree.. No yelling, no I'ts my way or the highway. Just good information from the people that have done it before.. There are other sites out there with the information, but someone new to this field gets shot down for asking for help. Now I am closer to being done with my project. I have learned alot along the way. I am still learning. Would I do it all over again?? Probably not.. I would look for something (along with someone who knows what to look at) that is mostly done, but done the right way. Now people told me to save my money and get something that was a driver.. I know now that that is the way to go, but by doing all of the work myself. If at any time something breaks. I will be able to track it down. I am nearly done with the wiring. I have turned the engine over a couple of turns, but stopped it so that I can pull the destributor and turn the oil pump to prime the engine first. Next will be the drive shaft. then the body work. Put everything back together and paint it. So far it has been two years. I figured that it would take near 4 to 5 years. I still think it will take another year untill it is considered road worthy. I would like to say Thanks for all of your help Past Present, and Future. Al
But if you notice, there was no name calling, swearing, or questioning of ancestry and in the end we just agreed to disagree.
|With the RaaMatt I got more material for a better price than the Dynamatt.. I may buy some of the Dynamatt Extreme for just the firewall, and kick panel to double up the material because of the heat and sound. I already have the rollers. I bought two rollers. One is smaller than the other to help mold it in the tighter areas. I have quite a few rolls of the aluminum tape. It is easier to use around drafty windows in the house. A plastic spreader is also useful to make it fit better, and also for making a straight cut. Then spray some adheasive over the matt and put the foil covered insulation then the carpet. Now I have also heard of putting the foam underlayment. I have the room for more added insulation though. The only thing I would need to do is put a 1/2" plate under the gas pedal.. The pipes for the heater are long enough.. Would carpet go all the way under the dash to the top of the firewall?? Al
|Just wanted to thank all the participants for the wealth of info. Even the "arguments" provided a lot of useful info & tips to this novice.
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sure wish I hadn't just bought two new seats for my 3 year old!
Product page: http://www.thefirstyears.com/Top-Rated-Booster-Seats/Compass-B570-Pathway-Abstract-Os
ashliz8806 wrote:Going to a Wizards game and being disappointed is like going swimming and getting wet...If you didn't expect it, I'm not sure I trust your judgment.
Is in the market for a full back booster but this is ugly. When will manufacturers learn women want safety and beauty?
Fully protect your kids and get a seat with a 5 point harness instead.
$67.18 here. (not including shipping.)
Skimmed the reviews over at amazon
There isn't a single rating below 3 stars. Some complaints are because the seat was a little too narrow. Also because the car didn't have the anchors to lock the seat to, so it would move around a lot.
As long as your car has seat anchors though, most of the people had a lot of great things to say about this booster.
On a side note, what happened to the good old days where you went from:
"Hey kid you're too big for the car seat, let's buckle you in and hope for the best?"
Then those awesome bumps in the road gave you (as a kid) awesome air time!
We have the red one and it's great. The buckle in process is great and very adjustable. The belt paths make it very comfortable for my three year old. Getting the seat in and out is a snap. The anchors are a very nice bonus to this great seat. The seat will recline to fit the angle of the car bench seat or bucket seat. No complaints here. It works very well with our Swagger Wagon Sienna.
Amazon's page. Made in China, if you're looking for origin.
I will refrain from my rant about kids being moved to boosters way too young, before they are old enough to properly sit in one all.the.time (which makes them less safe than a 5 point harness), because it never changes anyone's mind.
Instead I will say we have this booster (actually it's older brother the Compass 540) and we LOVE it. Ours doesn't have the latch anchors and it is still solid and doesn't move around much. The fact that it folds up makes it great for traveling (I can fit it in a large suitcase and check it) and it is easy to move from car to car for playdates and such. This is also a great price, cheaper than the older models. If I didn't already have one I'd order it myself.
So, if you are going to put a 3 yr old in a booster, at least this is a safe affordable option.
Booster seats without harnesses, like this one are for older children (5+) Many laws require your child to be older. Please check with your state regulations, or the regulations of states you regularly drive in before getting this for a young child (like a 3 year old). 5 point harnesses are the safest way for children under 60 lbs to travel (the weight at which adult seat belts respond).
To safely ride in a booster seat your child must sit upright and within the seat belt at all times, including if they fall asleep.
Appears to depend on car's belt system. Where are the seats that HOLD a child in the seat who wiggles and squirms to get out while car is moving ?
Prayer wrote:Appears to depend on car's belt system. Where are the seats that HOLD a child in the seat who wiggles and squirms to get out while car is moving ?
Many cars these days have a rachet lock mechanism on the seatbelt. you pull it tight around the child, then pull it all the way out, let it go all the way back in, and, VOILA!! no wiggle room!!!!
Is anyone else bothered by the "recommended ages" not being ages at all?
Perhaps "recommended sizes" would be a better bullet point, then you could put ages in there!
Summary from consumer search:
including collected review from car seat blog:
and that leads to link to video:
back to work.
2 cup holders...nice
renzeka wrote:sure wish I hadn't just bought two new seats for my 3 year old!
Your three year old should be in a forward of rearward facing five point harness until at least his/her fourth birthday, preferably five or older, 40 lbs, and able to sit properly. Three year olds simply lack the physical and emotional maturity to be adequately protected by a booster
mpanelo wrote:Fully protect your kids and get a seat with a 5 point harness instead.
There is no conclusive evidence that a five point harness provides better protection than a belt positioning booster for a typically developing five or six year old who is at least 40 lbs and able to sit properly. There are some theories that boosters may actually be safer. My personal opinion is that properly used both are very safe, however in certain types of crashes one is likely superior to another.
As most children do not pass the five step test ( it is a way to determine proper belt fit) until 9-12, when most harnesses, save special needs seats, are outgrown, harnessing isn't possible for all children. The harness as long as possible mantra is a throw back to when seats were outgrown between 2 and 4 years old.
Car seats are pointless according to the book Freakanomics when they sent toddler crash dummies just wearing the seatbelt into an accident, the results were good enough to submit as a safe car seat and pass. Just saying don't overthink it as 80% of carseats are installed incorrectly as well. Goto your local fire or police department and they may be able to help you.
Has anything actually changed in the manufacturing of booster seats since the maximum weight was increased to 100 pounds? My child is over 80 pounds but still not tall enough to use just the adult seatbelt safely. I still have an older booster that is rated for up to 80 pounds, but would consider getting a newer one if something other than the labeling has changed.
The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety rates it a best bet along with the Britax Frontier 85 and the Graco Nautilus, both harness/3n1 boosters. I just got the Graco and love it! It will last my nephew from his current 34 pounds to 100, so I find it more versital, but if I had an older/heavier kid, I'd get this one.
Only got a 44 out of 100 on Consumer Reports. It is the LOWEST rated highback booster they tested
I think I'll stick with my Evenflo Big Kid LX.
sorry, but a 3 year old is way too young to be in a booster seat. You should keep your child in a 5 point harness seat for as long as the car seat allows. My 5 year old is in a 5 point seat, and hers goes up to 65 pounds. I plan on keeping her in it until the maximum weight limit.
its 3 times safer.
While we are on this topic, to all the parents who are so excited about turning arount their infant the moment he hits 12 months old...
Sorry, I am just very passionate about this topic.
In summery
1. keep your child rear facing as long as possible, at LEAST 2 years old, perferably up to the weight limit of the car seat (most convertibles allow rear facing to 30-35 pound
2. Keep them forward facing in a five point harness until the weight of the seat, most go to 50-65 points.
The parents of Kyle David Miller have made it their mission to get the word out on the importance of kids being in a 5-point harness for as long a possible.
Watch the video and then make your own decision.
Kyle David Miller Foundation
I have a couple of these for Aunt's car, but they are from the Compass era. It looks like now that they are made by First Years they are not as high quality. I do like how the seat body stays enclosed even when it is extended. I like the folding feature, and the head wings for sleeping. Backless boosters are completely useless. This thing is worth having, though not sure about the quality decline under First Years' management.
These are ok for traveling or for your much older kids (though I would still recommend a 5-pt harness). I would not put any child under 6 in one of these. Use a real car seat. Two of mine have the Britax Marathon seats that go up to 65lbs. Love them! Even my almost 10-year-old is in a five-point harness, because the seat belt still does not hit him where it is supposed to. I got the Sunshine Kids Radian80 (now they have a 100), because the Britax Regent was too huge to fit three-across. Much easier to do the clips than mess with threading the belt every time and fishing for the buckle between seats. Which most kids don't do correctly. Then they fall asleep and lay their head on their lap, even though they are "secured". What happens then in an accident?
I'm not expert - but from the reading I've done, I would agree. I miss the days of being the "copilot" & sitting up front when my dad was driving (ah, the 80's). I guess as long as I'm putting my kids in a seat, I'll go ahead & get ones with 5 point harnesses. Just my humble opinion.
5-point for as long as possible!
We have a pair of Sunshine Kids Radians in the little car (they have a much smaller "footprint" than other seats) and a pair of Britax 85 Frontiers for the other car.
I'll have them in 5-point seats as long as I can. And those seats work from infant all the way through, so they are worth the investment!
We have 5-point Britax Frontiers for my almost 4yo and just moved my 6yo to these when she started school (from the Frontiers which her brother now uses). Although my little one is well into the height/weight "eligibility" for a belt-only booster, he will remain in the 5-point harness at least another year, and probably two. Maturity is a factor here as well - my older one is very good about making sure the belt fits her snugly and is aligned properly. The little one...not so much.
We have 2 First Years 5 point harness for our 2.5 year old and one on the way. We think it's a great brand, and if you have a kid who is over 65 lbs and you want a booster, this would be a great one to get.
The freaknomics study is contradicted by virtually every peer reviewed study we have on child seats. Seriously, you would take the word of an economist over the expertise of the engineers who design these seats?
yossisiegel wrote:sorry, but a 3 year old is way too young to be in a booster seat. You should keep your child in a 5 point harness seat for as long as the car seat allows. My 5 year old is in a 5 point seat, and hers goes up to 65 pounds. I plan on keeping her in it until the maximum weight limit.
its 3 times safer.
2. Keep them forward facing in a five point harness until the weight of the seat, most go to 50-65 points.
It's not 3 times safer for an older child, there is data for younger children, but we do not have real world data for older children because it is uncommon to harness older children. And you cannot keep a kid in a five point until the weight limit is reached as most of the time the seats are outgrown by height long before the weight limit is reached. For example, the graco nautilus (one of the tallest seats on the market) goes up to 65 lbs, but is usually outgrown between 40 and 50 lbs. It is extremely important not to keep a kid in a harness once it's outgrown by height, there is an increase in head excursion and risk of spinal compression, it's just not safe.
I have seen children with proper belt fit in this seat (what the IIHS tests for) but it's not as common as with, say, the graco highback turbo booster. Keep in mind the IIHS tests are a guide, they use a child crash dummy to measure fit. Well, kids aren't crash dummies, so you have to evaluate the fit on your child (lap belt low on hips, touching thighs, shoulder belt midway between kneck and shoulder).
Yea I dunno, it would seem kind of ridiculous to me to have a 6 year old (let alone a 10 yr old) in the same type of carseat as a 3 year old. Both my sons, 5 and 6 are in normal booster seats. They seem less inclined to "adjust" the seats unsafely now as well, which is one reason I got rid of the 5 point to begin with - it was frankly uncomfortable for them (even tho they were within the height/weight limits) and they learned how to undo all the clasps.
If they post this one again at that price, I will either buy one more or two more - we love it (and i'm a fussy pr*ck who rarely engages in these conversations, so that may tell you something).


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JP Morgan takes a look at the current state of the junk bond/leveraged loan tradeoff and finds the latter to be the better bet right now:
While we continue to find both high-yield bonds and loans attractive for the balance of 2013 given positive fundamentals and relatively attractive spreads, the near-term bias has probably shifted slightly in favor of loans. With the emphasis on rate protection clearly at the forefront of investors' minds and the technical picture for leveraged loans benefiting comparatively more, loans should continue to carry less price volatility than high-yield bonds—an attractive characteristic with fixed rate bond yields at record lows, and rate concerns heightening with 10-year yields back above 2%.
JPM notes that loan funds have already seen $10.85 billion in net inflows year-to-date, closing in on the $12.2 billion recorded in all of 2012. Retail investors represent a growing buyer base for loans but still only own about 15% loans, with collateralized loan obligations owning about half of all loans outstanding and new CLO issuance on the rise. JPM again:
There just is not enough loan supply at this point to satisfy demand, and not surprisingly these conditions are expected to keep prices firm.


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Re: Should I be scared??? What would you do???
I guess if you are realy experienced a sea trial will give you feedback on the boat and operational issues. A survey will give you the structural condition from a good shipwright. I spent an entire day with the surveyer on the boat i ultimately bought and came out with a notebook full of information and a to do list. Certainly more info than was on the survey and a good feeling that the boat was sound and appropriately priced.
It is a big deal when you are inexperienced,
Re: Should I be scared??? What would you do???
FWIW, I bought a boat out of season, "contingent on survey and sea trial" standard verbiage. But the way it worked for me, and this was validated by my contract as well as by other, unrelated folks I spoke with, was that you accept the deal if you're happy with the survey, you pay for the boat, but some percentage (usually the same percentage as your initial deposit) is held in escrow pending sea trial in case other issues come up. By that point you'll have a good idea, hopefully. It's a risk, and not for everyone, especially if something like the above-mentioned bulkhead issue doesn't show up until sea trial, but something worth considering if a boat you're really interested in is available at a good price out of season. A good surveyor is likely to notice hints of potential hidden issues before launch. The caveat, of course, is that once you accept the boat, I would imagine your recourse is limited to the amount in escrow, and you'd probably have to fight pretty hard to get that. The risk of buying out of season, right?
Re: Should I be scared??? What would you do???
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The surveyor remained in the cabin while we tacked back and forth and somehow caught that the main bulkhead was shifting. We actually put tape on the bulkhead on one tack and measured the offset on both tacks. The bulkhead was moving somewhere between a 1/4" and 3/8". The seller claimed that he had no idea that was happening but needless to
Re: Should I be scared??? What would you do???
So it's snowed all day in Toronto yesterday and my work is all backed up with no weather break in sight. So I sit up all night and jotted down a few things on .....
Sea Trials ... it ain't just a boat ride.
I seem to have a different take on sea trials than some people on this thread.
Re: Should I be scared??? What would you do???
As noted there is lots of good information in this thread.
Forgive me if I'm mistaken, but it seems that you are new to the process of purchasing and older, inexpensive boat. The process usually goes something like this:
-You dream about buying a boat
-You do some thinking about what kind of a boat meets your needs (day sailer, racer, cruiser, live aboard, etc.). Then you kind of decide on a budget and, or, length of boat.
-Use this site to ask lots of questions and learn as much as possible.
-Now you have to actually go look at various makes and models of boats that sort of fit your requirements. I found it very helpful to go on Yachtworld to find boats close (less than 2 hour drive) from me and then go and meet the broker and see as many boats as possible.
-Eventually you will find a boat that you think is the right one for the right price.
-The process is now usually:
-Make offer
-Get offer accepted (seller goes down in price, you go up in offer, etc.) and send deposit (usually 10% of purchase price)
-Boat gets surveyed (you pay for survey and associated costs, owner agrees to make boat available and operates the boat during the survey - usually the broker does this)
-You review survey results and either accept the boat, reject the boat (and get your deposit back), or renegotiate purchase price
-You pay balance due and sail boat away.
Make sure you understand the difference between survey and sea trial. The SURVEY will be done on land and in the water. The survey is to check all systems of the vessel for proper operation, inventory all gear included in the sale, check the integrity of the hull, electrical, plumbing, and other things. As far as I know, a sea trial is to make sure that the boat sails correctly. So, in a sense, the broker was right in that a sea trial won't provide you with much information. Assuming you are buying a common production type boat, like a Catalina 30, Tartan 28, C&C34, etc., the sailing and handling characteristics of those boats are well understood and you would lot learn a lot from a sea trial. I can understand the broker's point of view regarding a sea trial. Ask about a survey and his response better be along the lines of 'of course you should have a survey performed.'
The second part of your question, regarding how to buy a boat this time of year (if you
live in the north east) is that you don't. It's just not really possible or necessary to buy a boat this time of year. Wait until April at the earliest, march if you are just crazy to buy a boat.
Good luck,
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My broker and I did the sea trial and briefed the service folks after.
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Sounds like you are on the right track now, Bill. There are lots of boats in Maine, but darn few in the water right now. I bought one a few years ago in January and made the purchase contingent on the survey and held back 15% for the sea trial. The seller took care of a few niggles on the survey and ended up buying me a new fridge and Radar which did not work on the sea trial. My Broker was Dave Perry at Robinhood (really a pleasure to work with), I don't think he is related to His Eminence, Bob. What are you looking for and how much is your budget, we have tons of experts to weigh in on the details.
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Actually, the broker works for...the broker. He wants a deal done as quickly and as painlessly as possible. He'll push his client under the bus if it makes the deal go faster. Buyer AND seller beware.
You wont be sailing the vessel during trial. Either the broker or the owner does. You AND YOUR SURVEYOR are along to observe how the boat performs under power and under sail. Many issues cannot be seen until this is done.
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I would add a couple notes to this. First of all if you live and sail in an area that has a strong sailing community, then unless you are considering a very unusual make or model, it makes no sense to buy a boat long distance.
But if, from your perspective, this boat has unique charms that warrant a long distance purchase, you should be working through a local broker who you trust. This simplifies many of the basic transactions such as simple sign off on contingencies and escrow and final payments. That said, once you contact the selling broker directly without mention of your local broker, that option is usually off the table.
In terms of the sea trial question, the seller's broker does not sound like he is being forthcoming, which he is under no obligation to be. It does mean that it is prudent to trust him less than you might with someone who offers good advice. But it does not necessarily mean he is dishonest or incompetent. I do consider the question reasonable. If the broker is going to structure a deal that he can sell to his client he needs to understand what you personally would like to learn from a sail trial. In that case a list of concerns may be helpful.
There is a big difference between someone seeking to know how well a boat sails, and conveniently she is rigged, subjective factors which could kill a sale, versus more pragmatic issues such as does the transmission work properly, do the thru-hulls and below waterline plumbing leak, does the depth sounder and knot meter work, does the wind instruments, and other mast mounted electrical and electronic components work, and do the winches work properly when under strain (very important for older winches for which parts are unavailable or hard to come by). In other words, things which might potentially impact the price of the deal but not kill it. I bought my current boat when It was completely out of commission, and sitting disassembled in a farm field in Maine. There was no practical or cost effective way to do a seatrial. We escrowed funds to address specific items which could not be tested on the hard, and stipulated line items for each and a period by which I needed to commission and test these items or the funds were automatically paid to the seller.
There is another category that is harder to define. Twice in my life I have seen otherwise perfectly good boats fail survey for structural reasons found while sailing. The first case was a friend who asked me to crew on his sea trial of an older Hinckley Yawl. The surveyor remained in the cabin while we tacked back and forth and somehow caught that the main bulkhead was shifting. We actually put tape on the bulkhead on one tack and measured the offset on both tacks. The bulkhead was moving somewhere between a 1/4" and 3/8". The seller claimed that he had no idea that was happening but needless to say, my friend did not buy the boat. It worked quite well except that I did not think to put the refrigeration system on that list since it ran, but we could not run it long enough to determine whether it would cool the plates.
In a simlar case, a friend was looking at an old Cal I believe. When they cranked on the hydraulic backstay the head door would stick. The surveyor figured out that the bottom end of king post was rotted in the bilge. I was not there for that one so I ma not sure how they sorted that out, but the deal did not go through/
I hope this is helpful, good luck.
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Remind me what kindd of boat we are talking about. If it's a well known type we may be able to write off the sailing qualities end of the sea trial.
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Last night we enjoyed their Zin we bought on Woot. Hopefully this will be as good...
Wow -- a Golden Ticket . . . . Dreams really do come true!
After getting the email alert & the FedEx phone call, I was on pins & needles waiting for the arrival of the elixir of the gods . . . And, when it arrived on my doorstep, I was not disappointed -- the 2009 Sextant Central Coast Chardonnay. I've been following Sextant's offerings, and because of summer heat issues, I had opted out of the last two. And then I was in Paso Robles in September, mid-week after Labor Day, and their Paso tasting room wasn't open during the week -- Yikes, very sad.
After tasting many above-average Paso, Sta. Rita, Monterrey & Central Coast Chardonnays while we were out there, I was thrilled to see Sextant's Chardonnay in the box -- and we were not disappointed.
A few notes -- I do like Chardonnays -- I like steely, flinty crisp Chablis style Chardonnays, and I like round, rich creamy California Chardonnays. They are different treatments of the same grape, yet each with their own emphasis and effect and place in a wine portfolio. I don't like Chardonnays that are so crisp that they lose any roundness or hints of rich white fruits, and I don't like Chardonnays that are overly oaked or so creamy/buttery that they are cloying. So, with that being said . . . . here we go . . . .
Opening the 2009 Sextant Central Coast Chardonnay -- temp is about 55 - 56' -- Color is beautiful golden straw color -- very clear, yet a hue with depth. Nose on opening -- creamy butter with tropical fruit. As you swirl, the fruit becomes much more prominent & the white peachiness comes out.
First sips -- first reaction -- very round, no sharpness on the palate, but no overt creaminess or cloying on the finish. Tastes like a mature Chardonnay -- doesn't need any holding time to balance out the palate -- well rounded and balanced comes up in a couple of people's notes. No noticeable oak on the nose or the palate.
The palate begins to open up a bit as we drink the first glass without food -- descriptions include stone fruit, with hints of citrus and "not quite ripe" nectarine & mandarin orange. You really get the fruitiness with just a hint of "greeness" or "citrus" depending upon how your palate picks up the acidity. As the glass warms up closer to room temperature, the hints of honeysuckle, maybe ripe honeydew melon, start to come through. The creaminess and buttery aroma are more pronounced as it warms up.
Second glass was an hour or so later, after being held back in the 55' cooler, with food. Served with roasted chicken, zucchini, red potatoes -- nothing particularly fatty or spicy. The acidity in the wine came out & made a significant change on the finish. Became much more of a food wine than we expected, and provided a nice acidic, almost crisp, palate cleanser with each sip. Didn't really expect that. I guess that's where the lack of oak really comes across.
This is a nice lightly rounded Chardonnay -- it's not crisp by any standard, but yet it does play nicely with food. Similarly, it's not a big oaky, buttery Cali Chard, yet it is round and smooth with a silky mouth-feel. The stainless steel tanks definitely make a difference with this one. I think if it had been fully oaked, it would have been over the top; but the balance of the ML fermentation against the stainless steel (and only 10% oak) allowed the richness of the grape to shine through without overwhelming it with the vanilla oakiness that too frequently disguises the characteristics of the grape.
Overall -- Easy to drink without food or with a nice light dinner. I think it would be a nice wine to take to a party when you're not sure what's being served or don't want to offend -- or similarly, a nice wine to serve as an opening aperitif or with heavy appetizers. Could mend the stand-off between crisp SB or Pinot Grigio drinkers and the round creamy Chardonnay and floral Viognier fans. I think I preferred it without food and a bit on the cooler side. Depending upon the price point and the offering, we're in for at least one.
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When was this really bottled(not June 2009) and what exactly does minimal oak mean?
Woohoo! The gods do listen! Thanks!
Got one of these in a club shipment a while back. Brought it to a dinner party and everyone was impressed at its finesse. "Just the right amount" of oak is absolutely right. I feel as though it's just enough to round it out to offer an added layer of complexity, but the fruits still come through strong enough to keep it food-friendly. Went wonderfully with a shrimp & pesto pasta.
Next- can we please have the Viognier?
lassow wrote:When was this really bottled(not June 2009) and what exactly does minimal oak mean?
Two good questions that I'd like to know the response. Bravo
Woohoo! Maryland!! I'm buying this just because I can!
Re: minimally oaked - per their website, it said 10% oak & 90 % stainless steel tankage.
I did not get any hints of typical oakiness -- no vanilla, no toastiness, etc., but I could tell it wasn't the typically minerally crisp unoaked or truly naked Chardonnay.
I would imagine the bottling date was a typo - probably June 2010.
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My first post was supposed to coincide with my being a first time rat. I received an email that I was selected 9/29. Instantly had a bad feeling about it. Bad feeling turned out to be true. Friday came and went - no wine. I called FedEx. They told me something about planes being diverted and package not being delivered until today. So, here I am, first time rat with nothing to report. Yes, I am feeling sorry for myself.
Well, not much of a white wine drinker anyways. Will report once the bottle arrives.
sonofbrooklyn1 wrote:Two good questions that I'd like to know the response. Bravo
The 09 CCC was bottled on August 1, 2010. [Nice catch!] It was aged for 9 months in 90% stainless steel, 10% neutral french oak. The grapes are actually sourced from the Sarmento Vineyards in the Santa Lucia Highlands appellation of Monterey, in addition to our MacGergor Vineyards in Edna Valley- making it a very balanced and delicious chardonnay. There are aromas of honeydew melons and a finish of butter cream goodness! Very easy to drink!
What an excellent rat report. So nice to read a report where one has command of the English language and I didn't have to press "1" to get it right! Well done...it pushed me over the edge to click the stupidly large yellow button.
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I opened a bottle of this chard a couple of weeks ago and drank some with a warm shrimp & arugula salad. A nice, balanced, easy-drinker; good fruit, good mouthfeel and a decent finish.
Much like Pinot, I struggle with the sub-$20 chardonnay category. Many of them just taste yucky... too much oak... flabby... (using too much seasoning to hide the bad fruit..)
This bottle shines in comparison to many at the same price point: quality fruit and subtle winemaking result in a tasty glass for a great price. At today's Woot price, it's a steal.
CapnJB wrote:Woohoo! Maryland!! I'm buying this just because I can!
Same here!
neilfindswine wrote:I opened a bottle of this chard a couple of weeks ago and drank some with a warm shrimp & arugula salad. A nice, balanced, easy-drinker; good fruit, good mouthfeel and a decent finish.
Much like Pinot, I struggle with the sub-$20 chardonnay category. Many of them just taste yucky... too much oak... flabby... (using too much seasoning to hide the bad fruit..)
This bottle shines in comparison to many at the same price point: quality fruit and subtle winemaking result in a tasty glass for a great price. At today's Woot price, it's a steal.
To add...we only sale it by the case here at the winery! Great deal!
Let's just call this a Late Rat report, because my Golden Ticket spent the weekend lounging around the FedEx warehouse in Newark before making its very leisurely way to Manhattan via the Bronx. [I see that I'm not the only Lab Rat to receive the wine late] The Sextant 2009 Central Coast Chardonnay finally came into my hands at 11:30 this morning, so these are just a few notes on the fly. Not as exhaustive a tasting as I'd like, but I do have to get some work done today!
12:20 After 45 minutes in the freezer I popped the cork--real cork, not screwcap and not synthetic--and took a whiff. Light yeasty aroma, which quickly dissipated. Poured a bit, swirled, and slurped. Good acidity, a bit of oak (I'm not a fan of oak) but quickly replaced by strawberry (yes, this is a white!) and litchee. I'm already thinking white sangria, even though it's 56F out.
Studying the label in vain for alcohol content, but it feels robust--13%? Hmm, website says 13.6, which means that I'll have to hold off till after an appointment where I need to be alert. [Oops! Later I notice the teeny tiny print that says 14.2%--don't think I've ever knowingly had that alcoholic a white]
3:10 Didn't quite know what to eat with this. The bottle suggests that it "pairs well with lighter fare", which ruled out the Memphis style ribs I was in the mood for. I went with sushi, even though it really didn't seem like the ideal partner. The richer varieties worked better, but still not a match made in heaven. Tried it with some buttery, tangy 12-month Dubliner Irish cheddar, but the oak kept fighting it. Looks like my original fruit plan is the way to go.
3:30 Threw in a slice of orange, a couple of chunks of peach, and a wedge of mango. Bingo! The oak is instantly tamed and all the fruit flavors are enhanced, even more so when I add a few drops of Joseph Carton creme de cassis, which takes on more vivid flavor than usual. Inspired, I mixed up a kir, which was awesome! Is this like Bourgogne Aligote, the standard kir white wine?
Taking another sip of the unadorned wine, I have the feeling that this is a better Chardonnay than I can taste today. Not terribly complex, but well-structured; dry with good body and decent acidity. As a Sauvignon Blanc drinker I found this a bit too oaked for me, but it's more that on this particular day white wine just doesn't taste good, which happens once in a while--seems to be partly a question of whatever's going on with my body chemistry. (I had a sip of the open bottle of Marlborough SB in the fridge to verify) Anyone else ever experience that? This could be in part because the abrupt shift to fall weather. Today I want to be washing down boeuf bourgignon with a simple cab blend (yes I know it should be PN, too bad).
If it were still summer I'd Woot this in a heartbeat. But as I'm not planning much sangria quaffing in the next few months, I'll be giving this a pass. Hope this is helpful to those still on the fence. Texas is still looking pretty warm...
chatsextant wrote:To add...we only sale it by the case here at the winery! Great deal!
..speaking of the winery, how are things going with the new winery & tasting room in Paso Robles on West Highway 46?
neilfindswine wrote:..speaking of the winery, how are things going with the new winery & tasting room in Paso Robles on West Highway 46?
The new Estate Winery and Hospitality Center is scheduled to open Spring of 2012. We had originally anticipated a Fall 2011 move in date, but we are redefining a few new exciting additions which has pushed that date back. We will be located on the 46 West next to Niner and Grey Wolf.
I wanted to order but no shipping to NC?
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I think it would be a nice wine to take to a party when you're not sure what's being served or don't want to offend
Clinton Kelly says one should never expect that the wine you bring to a dinner party will be served at that dinner party. :-)
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Fulfilling my lab rat obligation even if only for posterity, so I'm trying to keep it short. Warning - we're not a white wine household.
Finally received the bottle this morning. Cooled it all day long to go with dinner tonight.
I don't have the best nose but I am picking up tropical fruit. If I had to pin it down I would lean toward pineapple. My wife and our 6 year old (whose sense of smell I trust a lot more than my own) between them picked up hints of honey as well as apple and citrus.
First taste. From now on it's me. Wife still has to work tonight and we don't give the 6 year old alcohol just yet. Definitely a hint of oak but not in a bad way. It doesn't linger too much so I can deal with it. Gives way to citrus and possibly green apple. Very smooth right away.
About an hour in - it's getting buttery but again not in a bad way. Overall a lot better balanced than I would expect at this price. This chardonnay doesn't offend in any way and I might have gone for it at the beginning of summer but would pass at this point.
Sorry for the late post. All blame goes to FedEx.
Anyone feeling like their order is lost? I got a FedEx tracking email from Woot last week, and FedEx indicated initially that it would be delivered by Friday (2 days ago), but looking at the FedEx tracking, it indicates that Sextant still hasn't provided the shipment to FedEx? I guess I'm not too pleased...
steve82608 wrote:Anyone feeling like their order is lost? I got a FedEx tracking email from Woot last week, and FedEx indicated initially that it would be delivered by Friday (2 days ago), but looking at the FedEx tracking, it indicates that Sextant still hasn't provided the shipment to FedEx? I guess I'm not too pleased...
I'm having the same issue - thought my order would be delivered today (it was the estimated day) but FedEx is showing that it hasn't even been shipped yet and is only "initiated". :/
Is anyone else still waiting on their delivery for this, or am I the only one?
I also received the FedEx tracking number for this with a delivery to be last week but they (Fed Ex) still haven't received the package to deliver. This is so disappointing...was to be my brother's birthday present...ordered 2 weeks ahead & still nothing! Starting to question my wisdom of ordering through here. Ordered on the 3rd of October.
Mine came yesterday, and we will be sampling this evening with dinner.
My brother finally got his wine today! Yeah! Just in time for the weekend. Thanks!


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The two things I need to work on is going straight and fast so I never get caught out on flats. And just trusting that transition when I momentarily flat base that I'm not going to catch an edge.
So i'll work on staying centered, putting weight on my front foot, leading with my shoulder, staying flexed and it should be a good powder day!
|The problem could be the way you turned. I helped a friend get started snowboarding and I noticed he used his legs too much to initiate the carve which led to some problems for him. Could be your problem
im just a beginner but here's what worked for me
heelside ==>flatbased ==> toeside==> flat based ==> heelside and repeat
when you are on your heelside ready to go toe side, flat your board and put weight on your front foot this will make initiating the turns easier
same goes for from toeside to heelside. remember flat basing your board is only 1 seconds or maybe in the split of a second this is what good riders make it look so effortless. keep weight on your front foot this will help with turn initiation
trust yourself and let it rip
For beginner turns you should start with even weight on both feet in a balanced body position. Think knees, ankles, hips slightly flexed and your upper body straight and in line with the snowboard.
Say you are starting on the heelside, perpendicular to the fall line. Release some pressure of the edge so you start to side slipping down the hill. Pressure the lead foot slightly to initiate the turn. Rotate the hips, and maintain upper body alignment with the snowboard. Allow the snowboard to approach the fall line, and continue to move through the turn by rotating the hips through the turn. Flex the lead knee and ankle to engage the edge. Return to balanced, even pressure of both feet as you traverse the hill. Repeat for the next edge.
TL;DR : Pressure the front foot (roughly 60%), rotate hips (center of mass) to initiate turns.
Hope this doesn't come off as patronizing but these vids are awesome to brush up on basic stuff...
When doing turns either way, your weight should shift to your forward foot (if it's not already there). I don't know if it's strictly good form or not, but one thing that really helps is to shift your lead shoulder slightly in the direction you want to turn. This forces your front foot to pressure the inside edge which initiates the turn.
If Snowolf comes on, he'll give you lots more detail, but the basic idea is: ruddering, bad.
I'm no expert, but you definitely don't want to kick out your back foot. As a preface, I ride a fully cambered board, and this what my motion feels like when I'm going from toe to heel- most of my weight is on my front foot (probably a 60/40 split) and applying pressure to my heel edge (picture lifting your toes up on that front foot), knees are bent and hips are moving down toward the snow like I'm going to sit down, and I'm driving my calf of my front leg into my highback. Also, I have my front knee and shoulder opening up toward my direction of travel. I think of it like I'm moving my front knee and shoulder and the pressure of my front heel toward my front heelside contact point on my edge. The turn gets initiated and my back foot just follows as gravity takes the nose of my board in the new direction.
Hope that helps. I'm sure some others can give you some good tips too
Are you making sure to keep your knees bent and relaxed?
When you're on your toe-edge your ankle/foot can function as a shock absorber, but when you're on heel-edge only your knees/leg muscles do. If you're legs are stiff and rigid it'll lead to that skipping and chattering you're experiencing.
When flat-basing and going straight you don't have to be on edge, just pressure an edge. Light pressure on an edge will keep the board straight, if you go completely flat while going fast your board will tend to pivot(rocker boards) or in trad. camber's case (catch an edge and scorpion onto your face).
As for weight shifting... I'm sure someone like Snowolf will chime in to tell you exactly what you need to be doing, but overall leaning back in a turn is a bad idea.
Snowboarding again, need advice.
I have not snowboarded in about 3 years, I recently got a new board and had a few questions. (it's a couple year old burton canyon)
I seem to be very confident on my toe edge carving, although I am not really falling, I do not have a lot of confidence when I go from Toe back to the Heel edge... Where do you shift your weight to go from toe to heel? from heel to toe, I put pressure on the front ball of my front foot and kind of kick out my backfoot and get the board around okay, when you go from toe to heel transition should I have most of my weight on my front foot or my back foot.
I find myself on my toe edge a lot, when i am on my heel I seem to skip and chatter more.
Also, when I ski, I can straight line it down the mountain and just go with confidence. Boarding I feel like I always have to be on a heel or toe edge, what weighted position do you get in just to head straight and fast down towards a cat trail?
I love the ride of boarding equally, it's just I do not fully trust that moment of transition when you are in the middle of a high speed turn, when the board is flat for a second, that I am not going to eat it.
Thanks for the input.
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Need info on where I can buy a kit or a complete blaster.
Every now and then I find somebody selling one and I always miss it ( **** )
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Need info on where I can buy a kit or a complete blaster.
Every now and then I find somebody selling one and I always miss it ( **** )
Not sure if Stormrider still makes kits, but I know Sidewinder does. You can also order one complete.
Stormrider does make a nice esb kit
^ I Have a stormrider ESB kit. And I was really happy with it.
just got my Stormirider gear today, looks very good to me, and simple to put together (i got the pistol too!)
Couple things about the EE3 and sidearm.
EE3: Dont 'screw' a pivot in for holding the sling! Drill it out extra big, fill it with glue/epoxy and then screw into that, and let it cure. Youll shatter the plastic by screwing it in tight, like wood.
Sidearm: I have been unable to figure out if the grip should be hollow, or filled. Most pics of peoples guns and mojos gun have it filled, however the original is hollow (as I make it). It may need to be filled with bondo.
Good luck everyone with their EE3s and sidearms.
Haha. Oops. I drilled the hole and screwed in. Worked fine and is still holding strong after 2 troops! :P
I have a real pulce 40 too, (sidearm) the handle is hollow but all the reference shots I've ever seen of it, it's filled.. what i did was take a thin piece of wood like a thick Popsicle stick and cover the hole at the bottom and bondo the cracks.. its looks spot on to me.. I really need to take some shots of it one of these days.. :) honestly though, if i hadn't gotten a real one i would rather have the sidearm that was unfilled.. that's just me though :)
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Discussion in 'Great Skate Debate' started by roxynova, Oct 15, 2010.
Show is tomorrow in Lowell, Mass. Anybody going? Post reviews please!
YES...I'm going!!! Looks to be a great show!! I"ll post sometime Sunday when I return home!
Joannie's participating, according to her Facebook page
Cast looks great with Joannie, Sasha, Jeff B, Mike W., Todd E., Belbin & Agosto, Steven Cousins, Shae-Lynn, Emily Hughes, and Evora & Ladwig The Kerrs were supposed to be in this, but I read Sinead has an injury!
Shae-Lynn... how fitting!
Link to an interview with Todd Eldredge re: this show can be found here.
Thank you, LadyNit!
Tanith just tweeted that she's excited to skate riverdance footwork with Shae in the finale for about 5 seconds!! She likened it to getting to do an allyoop with Jordan LOL!! It will be wonderful!!
Ioana, moi and a friend are at the 2/3 empty arena. Show time is already t+5 minutes.
I live very nearby but these shows zzzzz me. Of course, they must be better live than on TV, since you can actually watch the skating. I hope more people arrive and the show does well.
Michelle Kwan is in da house. Hosting the show with Nancy Kerrigan. I may be more excited about Riverdance!!
Intermission time. Joannie did a 3 flip, Jeff's program best suited the accompanying music and he did 3sal, 2a and a gorgeous 3lutz. Fun flamenco program from Shae with matching moves by flamenco dancer on stage. E&L did what looked like a modified version of a competitive program sans sbs jumps and throws. Fun show so far
Keep us posted on the second half, when you get a minute to do so! Glad you're enjoying it!!
Woohoo power outage in the whole building. Audience entertains itself by lighting the arena with cellphones. "Never a dull moment in TV making. Reminder that you will see a perfect show on TV in February" Huge cheer as the lights slowly reappear. Joannie gets a reskate!
And the show is over. A couple retakes, for that perfect tv moment.
We were a small, but a very enthusiastic crowd! I spotted another fsuer with a large camera, so there may be photos later. Mine are just blurry snapshots from a small p&s.
Thank you for the reports (and hopefully photos!) from this show! I was thrilled to find out Amanda & Mark were added to the cast although I was sad to hear it was because the Kerrs had to pull out of the show. It sounds like a great show and I look forward to seeing it on TV.
thanks for the real-time reports! Even the power outage - oikes!! Did they have live music along with the floor dancers? Was it awesome???
Yes, looking forward to pics if there are any! YAY!
I went to the show too, and it was just as SaSherka said. I had forgotten just how dramatic Riverdance is. It might beat out figure skating in that regard! I think a lot of people were there because their son/daughter was performing. Everyone looked super polished and gorgeous - Tanith and Ben were lovely and smooth. Sasha does hit the loveliest positions. Joannie looked so fit - I wish more female skaters could have that extra muscle that she has. Evora and Ladwig were so beautiful too, I love seeing their lifts live. This was also the first time I'd ever seen Shae-Lynn live. Wow, does she have charisma! Everyone around me was talking about that. All of the skaters did Irish music of sorts. Which is why I was a little when Shae-Lynn did a flamenco program for her first number, since she's the one skater there who actually does have an Irish program (a Riverdance FD, of all things) associated with her! But she did an Irish number in the 2nd half that garnered a lot of applause.
I took some videos that I'll post whenever I get the chance. For now, here's Belbin/Agosto's first number: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMmcbDA7ptc
If anyone wants more info about certain skaters, let me know! For the others who went, was there an autograph signing at the end? I left after E/L redid their throw but before some of the step dancers redid their part.
ETA: One of Evora/Ladwig's performances. I thought they were doing Romeo and Juliet based on the costumes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4Jh-qGhUos
They looked like they did part of their SP/LP and modified some of the step sequences to fit the Riverdance theme, but what I really liked was their look for the finale. They came in on some of the drum beats and with Amanda in a red dress & black tights looked very cutting edge. Sasherka and I looked at each other and went "that's a good look for them" at the same time. Maybe you could let them know that's something to look into for next season .
A quick add to literaryfreak's music comment - all skaters simply skated to the full Riverdance score, which includes flamenco and tap numbers.
Ah, so that explains it! Sorry, I've never actually seen Riverdance before. The last time I saw some of it, I was probably 10.
Just got home. It was the Riverdance show, with skaters on ice a the sametime. when the dancers were on, it was hard to decide to watch dancers or skaters. When it was just musicians, easier to appreciate. Dancers were fab.
I got there early, and Nancy and Michelle were taping stuff that is probably for the tv show. They were explaining what the show Riverdance was, and they kept retaping as one made a mistake, then apologized and they were laughing. Both looked lovely.
Sasha was the first to skate after the group/intro. She had the prettiest green dress, one of the prettiest on a skater I have ever seen (IMHO). Skated very well, great charlottes/spirals.
Everyone skated well.
Treat to see Evora & Ladwig - it was announced they were last minute replacements. Just love that they are getting this type of opportunity. Definitely their program seem 'competitive'
Jeff - just love how he is becoming an entertainer (compared to first time I saw him several years ago).
Shae - just lovely. I always enjoyed her with Victor, but every time I see her solo, she seems so happy and more of a presence on her own.
Wess - always the entertainer, skated with Shae for one song, so in comparison he seemed stiff in his 'Irish' steps.
Tanith & Ben - nice to see, lovely skating.
Joannie - very good skating, seems very confident, lovely
Todd - always good, showing some personality
Stephen Cousins -a crowd pleaser
Emily Hughes - I always enjoy her, but she always seems rushed, but lots of energy.
I really had the sense the skaters had fun doing this.
Loved the live music! And glad to see Riverdance live, as I am pretty sure I read somewhere that it will not be touring much more.
Good audience, over half full.
And the power outage and the cellphones were funny. I guess no one has lighters anymore.
Thank you SOOO much for that video of Amanda & Mark! Those are actually their costumes from their 2006 LP (which was to Romeo & Juliet) and I have a feeling, especially with being added to this show at the last minute, that they grabbed whatever costumes they thought would work for their numbers and just went with the flow. They use a lot of their previous competition costumes for shows and practices so I'm not surprised by this. Those were beautiful costumes and I'll enjoy seeing them again in the broadcast (hoping they don't get chacked!). Thanks again for the video and I'm still beyond thrilled they got this opportunity!
Thanks for this tidbit and I'll definitely let them know!
Thanks for all the reports so far. Looking forward to hearing more news about the show.
Can't wait to see the broadcast on February 19, 2011.
I had never seen the costumes before so I was trying to wrack my brain to remember if they were doing Romeo and Juliet this season. But they're from a past season, thanks! For one of the other numbers, they wore the green/turquoise shiny costumes that we see so often, and one girl behind me was like, "Haha, they always wear those costumes," which annoyed me a little, because these costumes are expensive and if I were a skater, I'd reuse them as much as possible too. But then the person went on to say, "But that's ok, I love the costumes so it doesn't matter."
I have a short clip of Amanda and Mark in the red and black costumes ioana was talking about, I'll upload it when I can.
It turns out there was a reception afterward. I'm a little that I left before it (I knew this would happen), but it's probably a good thing I didn't get the chance to accidentally embarrass myself by saying something stupid in front of the skaters.
I only took clips of the skaters, because I wanted to enjoy them without the camera:
Belbin/Agosto's 2nd number, in their original Ave Maria costumes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r297sXIGMlw
A few short clips to encourage viewing the full show in February
On and off ice duels:
Irish dancers vs tap dancers and Stephen Cousins vs Jeff Buttle
Shae's riverdancing
Shae with Irish Dancers
Thanks so much for the videos! What a cool show. I really wish I could have gone but um, I'm at a family reunion in Florida, so...
I went to the show last night! It's going to be very interesting to see what's actually shown on TV in Feb. There's were times when I didn't know who to watch...dancers or skaters!
Here's a quick tip to anyone that's going to a Disson show being taped for TV : Buy the cheap seats.... 5 minutes before the show...the bottom half of the arena was empty...(seems everyone purchased the cheaper seats) I thought to myself...it's not going to look to good on TV...Well guess what...they had all those people move down and fill in all the seats close to the ice! I myself benefited from this...I had purchased mid-range seats...center ice...but row 14....I wound up in row 3!! This also happen to me a few years ago at the Celtic Woman Ice show!!
As mentioned before Michelle Kwan and Nancy Kerrigan hosted, but they were only there at the start of the show.
The opening was fabulous. Loved the costumes! I wrote down the skating order: Sasha had the first solo, the Joannie and Steven shared a number she skated solo at first then he came out skated a little bit with her..then him solo and they ended the program together. Then B/A then Mike W. did any awesome number with the guy Riverdancers on stage...it was one of my favorite of the evening! Then Shae-Lynn did a flamenco number while a dancer was on stage. Evora & Ladwig were next (they filled in for the Kerrs, who had to pull out cause of an injury) it was a nice chance to see them! Emily, then Jeff...then it was B&A again....I was wondering what happen to Todd...he was in the opening...then we never saw him again during the first half! Riverdance closed out the first half with an amazing number!!!
After intermission "Spirit of Ireland" was performed by some children from a dance school! The were great!! I had seen them all in the lobby of the arena as I arrived. Riverdance resumed the with another amazing number on stage!
E&L skated next I think this was the number were they had a wonky landing on a triple throw (they did a retake later and nailed it!)
Jeff and Steven had a "Skate off" on ice while the dancers had a "dance off"on stage....dancers won that one...the were fantastic!!! Next was Joannie, her costume was a deep purple with lots of sparkles...it was during her spin that we lost power!! It took about 15/20 minutes to be up and running again and they started her number from the top!! Mike and Shae-Lynn had a nice number together! Shae is a pro at Riverdancing...lol
Then Sasha....might I say that she is skating stronger than ever...No falls, no wobbles...jumps were solid!! Then Finally Todd's solo! He really knocked it out of the park!! It was another favorite program of mine from the evening!!
Then the finale stated...skaters came out one by one...then in little groups...The show closed with another amazing (have I used that word enough??) Riverdance!! Emily, E&L were the only skaters to do retakes....Riverdancers also did a retake on one number!! What a fabulous night!!!
Thank you SaSherka and everyone, for the video links and the show reports - we totally appreciate it! And YES, we plan to watch the show when it airs on TV in Feb!!