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03/11/2009 (11:21 am)
Abortion and the Death of Liberty of Conscience
"…The Law of nations, by which this question is to be determined, is composed of three branches,
1. The Moral law of our nature.
2. The Usages of nations.
3. Their special Conventions.
"The first of these only, concerns this question, that is to say the Moral law to which Man has been subjected by his creator, & of which his feelings, or Conscience as it is sometimes called, are the evidence with which his creator has furnished him. The Moral duties which exist between individual and individual in a state of nature, accompany them into a state of society & the aggregate of the duties of all the individuals composing the society constitutes the duties of that society towards any other; so that between society & society the same moral duties exist as did between the individuals composing them while in an unassociated state, their maker not having released them from those duties on their forming themselves into a nation. Compacts then between nation & nation are obligatory on them by the same moral law which obliges individuals to observe their compacts. There are circumstances however which sometimes excuse the non-performance of contracts between man & man: so are there also between nation & nation. When performance, for instance, becomes impossible, non-performance is not immoral. So if performance becomes self-destructive to the party, the law of self-preservation overrules the laws of obligation to others. For the reality of these principles I appeal to the true fountains of evidence, the head & heart of every rational & honest man. It is there Nature has written her moral laws, & where every man may read them for himself. He will never read there the permission to annul his obligations for a time, or for ever, whenever they become "dangerous, useless, or disagreeable." Certainly not when merely useless or disagreeable, as seems to be said in an authority which has been quoted, Vattel, 2. 197, and tho he may under certain degrees of danger, yet the danger must be imminent, & the degree great. Of these, it is true, that nations are to be judges for themselves, since no one nation has a right to sit in judgment over another. But the tribunal of our consciences remains, & that also of the opinion of the world. These will revise the sentence we pass in our own case, & as we respect these, we must see that in judging ourselves we have honestly done the part of impartial & vigorous judges…."
- Thomas Jefferson, April 28, 1793 letter to George Washington. [The Works of Thomas Jefferson in Twelve Volumes. Federal Edition. Collected and Edited by Paul Leicester Ford.] [emphases mine.]
American children have not been taught the central importance of liberty of conscience in the founding of our nation at any time during my lifetime, so the concept is being forgotten. Products of American public schools who have never read the philosophy of our nation's founders think the central issue of the American revolution was taxation without representation, and in their hedonistic hearts, the sober liberty to do as the conscience requires has transmogrified into the carefree license to do as the flesh desires. This is tragic.
Nowhere is this omission more apparent than in the furor over President Obama's abortion policy.
President Obama's critics warned during the campaign that his moderate rhetoric was deliberately masking an aggressively pro-abortion stance — and I mean the words "pro-abortion" precisely as I framed them. I dismiss the risible excuse that "nobody likes abortions" even when offered by ordinary abortion advocates, but Obama is no ordinary abortion advocate. His historic stance on abortion policy, in practice, has always out-lefted the leftmost advocates, even while he's jockeyed to grant himself plausible moderation to fool voters. This is why, in the Illinois legislature, he carefully articulated in public his opposition to Illinois' version of the Born-Alive Protection Act as being due to the absence of wording protecting abortion rights like that which appeared in the federal bill, when in fact he had quietly opposed an act worded like the federal bill in committee, where he chaired.
Since then, President Obama has fulfilled the worst expectations of his critics in his fervor for promoting and encouraging legal abortions. He solicited a wish list of pro-abortion policies from abortion advocacy groups before the inauguration. His appointments related to health issues have uniformly gone to hard-core abortion advocates. He has already rescinded federal limits on funding abortions overseas. He released funding for research using human embryos, but rescinded funding for promising research to produce embryonic stem cells without destroying an embryo. He has made public statements affirming his support for the abortion policy initiated by Roe v Wade (ignorantly. Roe actually articulates a more restrictive policy than that which Obama supports.) He rescinded federal guidelines protecting the consciences of medical professionals who might be expected to perform abortions against their will. He did all this during a period in which he claims that the demands of the economy made it impossible for him to devote proper time to visiting dignitaries from our allies; this illustrates how high abortion ranks on the President's personal priority list (and how low foreign dignitaries rank.) And, he announced most of these measures on Friday nights, so the news cycle would not focus on them.
It's in the matter of medical professionals performing abortions against their wills that liberty of conscience arises as a central topic.
The key feature of the individual liberty that grew into political liberty was called liberty of conscience. Championed by leaders of the Protestant Reformation, liberty of conscience articulated the notion that each man owes his conscience, not to the Crown, nor to the Church, but to God alone. This was the Great Leveling of Humankind: neither kings nor popes were above the laws of God, but were subject to them, the same as ordinary people. Kings or popes violating the law of God were seen as having abdicated their authority by virtue of that violation. Our modern notion of individual liberty would not have come about without liberty of conscience; it lies at the very heart of the American system of government, in the notions that people should be free, that the government serves the people, and that nobody is above the law.
It is this liberty, the liberty granted by God for every person to do as their conscience requires them, that stands in the path of Obama's next, slated pro-abortion move. The obfiscationally-named Freedom of Choice Act purports to require all medical facilities to offer abortion services regardless of the consciences of medical staff. The threat of this legislation has prompted Catholic hospitals to warn that they may not remain open if the government insists on forcing them to perform services that they regard as murder.
Mind you, there is no public policy reason for the provision requiring hospitals to provide abortion services against their consciences; there's no shortage of abortion providers. The sole purpose of such a measure is to criminalize the conscientious stands of abortion's opponents. It's one of a handful of measures favored by Democrats to criminalize their political opponents, as Stalinism slowly settles over the Land of the Free.
The anti-libertarian fervor of abortion advocates found a champion yesterday on The Moderate Voice, arguably the worst-named blog on the Internet because there is nothing moderate about this site. "Moderate" commentator Jazz Shaw produced what I regard as the most openly totalitarian piece I've seen this year, arguing, with that incredible knack liberals have of inventing moral imperatives out of the most atrocious mental twisting, that it's the Catholics that are threatening and bullying the government, not the other way 'round. Shaw posits that the fact that Catholics chose to offer medical services in the first place confers on Catholic hospitals an affirmative responsibility to remain open, regardless of whether the government demands that they commit what they regard as murder. This is the entitlement culture amplified by 30,000 watts: because an actor has produced a good thing, the nation has an inalienable right to enjoy that good thing forever; the purveyor has no right to stop producing it, even if the production of it ceases to benefit the one who produced it (let alone that it becomes a matter of sin to continue it!) In ShawWorld, the Nazi death camp operators would have committed immorality if they refused to operate the camps, because the camps, you see, were constructed on the assumption that the operators would be there to run them. How dare those bullying Catholics threaten to close their doors, just because the government wants them to damn themselves to hell! Don't Catholics realize that they are mindless imbeciles and that their beliefs are meaningless relics of an ancient superstition?
Meanwhile, in MYWorld, Jazz Shaw has demonstrated that he is not a member of the human race. There are no words for my rage. (Ed Morrissey at Hot Air, who is a friend of Shaw's, dismisses his vile pap in a friendlier, but no less contemptuous, manner.)
Not surprisingly, Shaw couched his vile opinion in terms recalling the left's unsupportable rendering of American religious liberty, the one that turns "separation of church and state" into an affirmative duty for the government to impose secular, Scientific Materialism on the populace as the official, national religion. If any of these historical illiterates were to offer their interpretation of "the separation of church and state" to any of the nation's founders, they'd be lucky if they escaped without having to fight a duel; any of the founders, even the handful of atheists among them, would immediately recognize tyranny in the notion that Americans ought not bring the ethics taught by their religions through the door when they serve on the legislature, and would brand the people arguing thus as the devious servants of the worst tyrants imaginable — which, in fact, they are.
FOCA has not been introduced in Congress yet, probably because of the attention being paid by Catholics. The left would like to introduce it, but they know they're sitting on a powder keg. Catholics still hold a lot of sway in plenty of Democratic districts. The powder keg is larger and more volatile than they imagine, though; if they try to force Catholic medical professionals to violate their consciences, they're going to end up jailing thousands of them as they refuse to comply, and perhaps could even spark a revolution.
Governments have no right — ever, under any circumstance — to force people to violate their consciences. This is the very right America's founders fought to protect. If the government attempts to force this conduct, they will have violated natural law, the law that all nations and religious leaders must obey, the same law that adheres to all people. If this government violates natural law, it is every man's right to overthrow this government and establish one that will recognize the human right to liberty of conscience.
The framed quote regarding conscience was obtained from a web site called "America In Prophecy." I have no association with the site, and do not endorse it, nor do I know anything about the authors. I clipped the quotation exactly as it appeared. While I regard the statement as an accurate description of the philosophy of the authors of our nation's founding documents, I could not verify the quotations source or accuracy, and present it here simply as an illustration.
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28 Comments »
Comment by TX CHL Instructor
"Governments have no right — ever, under any circumstance — to force people to violate their consciences."
So, in the case of Warren Jeff's polygamous FLDS cult, where the men believe that in order to achieve heaven, they must have at least 3 (simultaneous) wives, the government should have no say, period?
Recommended reading: Escape, by Carolyn Jessop
Comment by Joseph Huster
Your post is a bit over the top.
First, you say that Obama "solicited a wish list of pro-abortion policies from abortion advocacy groups before the inauguration." I tracked down the memo you linked to and that memo clearly indicated that it was created by an outside group and submitted to the Obama administration. Do you have independent evidence that the Administration "solicited" this so called wish list?
Second, your rage regarding the commentary of Jazz Shaw is hard to understand. His point is fairly obvious. He's arguing that our democratically elected congress is entitled to regulate the medical services industry, including regulations requiring medical service providers to provide specific medical services. You don't disagree with that, do you?
He's further arguing that communities that receive medical services largely or entirely from an organization that would cease providing medical services altogether rather than comply with duly enacted legislation (or who receive siad services from an organization that is threatening to do so) are in an untenable position. Those communities need to find an alternative source of medical services. What's objectionable about that?
Your belief that government should not be allowed to force people (or organizations) to act contrary to their consciences is fine, but beside the point. No one is arguing that an organization should be forced to perform abortions – that's because no one is forcing any organization to provide medical services. Moreover, your claim that the Obama Administration "rescinded federal guidelines protecting the consciences of medical professionals who might be expected to perform abortions against their will" is wrong headed. The Obama administration rescinded the guidelines because it thought the guidelines were too broadly worded. It worried that the guidelines would allow individual employees and pharmacies to refuse to dispense legally available prescription medications (which some people think are abortafacients). You might approve of a broadly worded conscience clause, but I'm sure you can see the pragmatic difficulties in maintaining such a broad exception.
I'll bet you that within a year, the Obama administration will replace the old guidelines with a narrower conscience clause that protects employees from being forced to participate in live abortions, In fact, I'm so confident that Obama does not support a policy of forcing individuals to participate in abortions(except, perhaps, in dispensing legal medications) that I'll commit, here and now, to give you $1000.00 cash if Obama ever publicly endorses such a policy (or signs a bill containing such a policy.
Finally, I see no evidence whatsoever that Obama is "pro-abortion," if that means Obama wants to increase the number of abortions, or thinks abortion is an intrinsically good thing. His policies seem perfectly in line with the view that early term abortions should be legal. I think there are sound reasons for taking that view, and I'll be happy to debate that question with you, on your blog, for the benefit of your readers. Just say the word.
Best wishes,
Joe H.
Comment by Phil
I'm not sure I agree that the situation you're describing is an attempt by government to force men to violate their consciences. I think there's a difference between restricting people from acting in a manner that disturbs the peace and safety of the community, and forcing people to do things that offend their consciences.
The area where government enforcement of generally-applicable rules for public safety and civic order overlaps with religious imperatives is a tricky one. I think it was the Smith decision where the Supremes decided that Oregon could enforce their no-drug policy against an employee for whom peyote was a religious observance (or so he said.) I agree cautiously.
I also agree that government should be permitted to force "black-bumper" Amish to display fluorescent warning signs on their carriages (I think that was Yoder v Michigan or something like that). So, I guess I can accept a small correction and admit that "never under any circumstance" goes a tad over the top. Still, I'll sacrifice that smidge of accuracy for the impact of a clear statement; conscience is as close to an absolute right as we get.
Comment by Horatius
One could also make the same case with Honor killings in Islamic societies, where even if a woman was raped, SHE must be killed in order for the family's "Honor" to be restored. (Funny how this works there. Many western societies, even male dominated ones would say that it is the duty of Men to protect and care for women and children, so in this case they would say that the true "shame" here, if shame can actually be applied by society to the victim of a brutal crime, it should lie with the Men unable to acquit their duties.)
However, I think that is using a straw man argument in this case. Can you equate bigamy with forcing a doctor or other health care provider to perform a procedure they believe to be murder?
Comment by TX CHL Instructor
"I think there's a difference between restricting people from acting in a manner that disturbs the peace and safety of the community, and forcing people to do things that offend their consciences."
Ok, you witness an accident in which a child is badly injured, so you take that child to the nearest hospital. The physician that attends the child is a recent convert to the Jehovah Witness cult, and decides that he can't allow this child to get a blood transfusion. So the child dies due to this malpractice.
The government cannot force "people to do things that offend their consciences." Right? Or is this another "smidge" exception?
Comment by Phil
Regarding whether the Obama team solicited the memo or not, I note two data: first, the president of Planned Parenthood told the Washington Post that she was in "nearly daily contact" with Obama's transition team shortly after the election, and second, that the transition team posted the 55-page memo on their web site. This is clearly more than just a wish list from a pressure group; whether the memo was accepted in its entirety or modified, it was clearly a collaboration between the Obama administration and its supporters. I'll modify my claim to "seems to have solicited" if you'll admit that my interpretation is the most likely case.
Regarding Jazz Shaw's article, your whitewashing of his clear intent is simply shameless. I'll just ask my readers here to read his article, and decide for themselves whether my take or yours is more accurate. I don't think any further response is required. Honestly, Joe, I'm disgusted by your attempt to whitewash the thing.
And, my response to your question whether I disagree that the Congress has a right to regulate the medical services industry, including regulations requiring medical service providers to provide specific medical services, my answer is not "yes," not "hell, yes," but "You would never catch me even thinking otherwise." The government has no right to require medical practitioners to provide services they regard as immoral, and anyone who says otherwise is a tyrant. This is as clear a case of a violation of personal liberty that goes to the very heart of what the Constitution's authors were attempting to prevent as anything that could be conceived.
And for that matter, calling abortion a medical service is a deliberate obfuscation. Abortion is as much a medical service as is elective plastic surgery, except when required for reasons of the health of the mother.
Finally, regarding debates, you seem to want this one, and I'm not strictly opposed to that, but I'm pretty sure I won't have the time to give it the attention it would need. So, this time I'm afraid I'll have to pass. I've not responded to your discussion on your own blog for the same reason.
Comment by Phil
Pretty squirrelly hypothetical, dude. In the first place, I don't know that there exist JW doctors who refuse to perform transfusions. In the second place, I know there exist no JW hospitals that refuse to perform such transfusions, and if there are JW doctors that work in non-JW hospitals, the staffs of those hospitals are surely aware of their limitations and keep them away from situations where their particular stand could cause a problem like this.
In the situation you describe, the hospital would be criminally liable for the child's death for the mere fact that they had a doctor working in an emergency ward that would refuse to perform transfusions. The doctor would be fired on the spot, would have his license revoked due to malpractice, and might just face manslaughter charges due to criminal negligence for failing to alert his employer that he'd developed this new tick of conscience that prevented him from doing his job. I have no problem with any of these legal remedies — and none of them require the government to force the man to do what his conscience says he must not do.
Comment by Horatius
The Jehovah's witness thing is also kind of a faulty analogy. Is this a Jehovah's witness hospital? Are there no other doctors in the hospital except recent converts to this specific religion?
Catholic hospitals are run by the Church specifically. They are not run by a secular organization that simply has RC doctors. So IF (and note I say IF) FOCA could in some way be used to coerce hospitals to perform abortions regardless of their belief, since they are a private organization, they could in fact close their doors.
I would also refer to Phil's post on the difference between abortion being an elective procedure and a life saving blood transfusion.
Comment by Joseph Huster
You get disgusted (frequently) because you assume (frequently) that people who disagree with you have bad motives. You assumed that about Shaw, and now you assume that about me. That's a bad trait for someone in your business.
Surely you understand the policy problem of a community relying on a health care provider who refuses to provide reproductive health care services, and who is threatening to quit providing all medical services if they are forced to provide reproductive services by federal legislation. You may not agree with the proposed federal requirement, or with Shaw's proposed solution (replacing Catholic providers with other providers), but Shaw's argument is nothing to get outraged about. Neither is mine.
I think one of the problems with the Abortion debate is the inability of people on each side to attribute good faith to those on the other side. Perhaps you think that abortion is so obviously reprehensible that its impossibble to disagree about the practice in good faith. If that's the case, there's really no point in going on. For my part, I accept that people who believe that abortion is immoral (I'm one of them) and should be illegal with few (if any) exceptions (I'm not one of them) hold their beliefs in good faith.
Joe H.
Comment by Joseph Huster
Sorry Phil, I forgot a few things.
You're dead wrong about the (legal) right of Congress to force people to violate their consciences. I feel its immoral to pay taxes to support a government who uses its revenues to do what I consider to be immoral acts. However, congress surely has the right to force me to pay my taxes.
Your argument that Congress has no right to order anyone to provide medical services that they find morally offensive is correct, but completely misguided. Congress is not forcing anyone to provide medical services at all. Never has, never will.
However, Congress is authorized by our constitution to regulate the practice of medicine (see Commerce Clause), including passing a requirement that medical providers provide specific medical services. You may disagree with the laws it passes, but there is nothing tyrannical about Congress' regulation of medicine.
The problematic enthymeme (unstated premise) in your argument is that individuals and/or institutions have a right to provide medical services free of government regulation when such regulation violates their consciences. That is simply false.
Joe H.
Comment by Phil
Joe, I don't think good faith covers this one. I can accept that you believe abortion is not morally wrong, though I disagree. What I cannot accept is that you would condone forcing a man to do something he holds to be so deeply wrong. And, Joe, what possible policy reason exists for forcing them thus? Is there a shortage of abortion providers? For the government to attempt to force a man to perform an act he regards as murder, is an act of tyranny, and it does not matter a whit how well-intentioned the tyrant is. As I've said, and you continue to fail to acknowledge, liberty of conscience is FUNDAMENTAL. The denial of it is a denial of everything I believe as an American. Why do you disagree? Please explain.
Regarding Shaw's article, I understand the point about the dislocation caused by the community having to do without a service that they were relying on (though Shaw is dead wrong about every business aspect he mentions). What has me so outraged is that Shaw regards the Catholics as the villains here, not the government that is forcing this dilemma on them. This is a moral inversion; he's calling good "evil," and evil "good." The Catholics are not trying to bully anybody; they didn't pick this fight, and they're doing their best to avoid it. They're simply trying to do good without violating their consciences. If the government creates a dilemma — note those words, the government creates the dilemma, not the Catholics — in which they cannot do their good works without also sinning against their consciences, how is that their fault? Shaw's reasoning for blaming the Catholics here is so twisted that it defies imagination; and my description of it is entirely correct, as far as I can see.
Comment by Joseph Huster
Catholics are certainly not villians. They're providing medical services. I didn't read Shaw's piece as blaming them. I'll go back and read it again.
Later, I've got work to do.
Comment by Joseph Huster
Oh yeah,
I do agree that Congress would be tyrannical if it forced individual physicians to provide abortion services. But there is nothing tryannical about requiring institutional providers to provide these services (if it is possible). (which is what creates the problem).
Joe H.
Comment by Phil
You're trying to make something complicated that's actually simple. We can get into the complications caused by the confusion between Congress' POLITICAL POWER to perform certain acts, their LEGAL RIGHT UNDER CURRENT CONSTITUTIONAL LAW to perform those acts, and their NATURAL RIGHT to perform those acts. Your latest comment explaining Congress' right to enforce regulations against the conscience of citizens confuses those kinda blithely.
But it's ok. What I'm talking about, what I've been talking about all along and what I've clearly indicated that I'm talking about, is natural rights. No government has the natural right to force men to commit a murder. To do so is immoral, and tyrannical. A benign government cognizant of citizens' rights would never make the attempt.
We're posting at the same time, and missing each other's comments. The distinction between individuals and institutions is interesting; the problem is caused by the insistence that the institution offer specific services. And yes, I can see how that distinction might make someone miss the impact on individual doctors or nurses, so I'll put away my Che' beret for the moment.
Still, I regard the Congress' power to force a business institution to offer specific services as a violation of liberty (albeit not quite so central a violation as forcing a doctor to commit what he considers murder.) It would be like demanding that all restaurants offer steak, even vegetarian ones. A hospital is a place of business, and ought properly to be free to offer whatever services the administrators feel competent to offer. If that list does not include heart surgery, they don't perform heart surgery. If it doesn't include dialysis, they don't do dialysis. What's the policy purpose of forcing them to provide abortion services, given 1) emergency abortions are exceedingly rare, 2) there are plenty of abortion providers, and 3) we all know why they're not offering those services, and their reasons are the sort of thing we Americans are supposed to protect?
Comment by Joseph Huster
Its not the I don't see the irony of the historical fact that the Catholic Church performed myriad acts of selfless charity when it built its network of hospitals, schools, and other institutions. And I agree that where reproductive health services are available, there's no point in requiring Catholic health care providers to make them available.
Half of the problem is that the Church's convictions on reproductive issues have not changed with the Public's (nearly 2 out of three Americans believe that early term elective abortions should remain legal and available). That may speak ill of the public, but the public doesn't agree.
The other half of the problem is that in many small cities, Catholic hospitals are the main (or sole) suppliers of medical care and medications.
Its a difficult problem. However, medicine is not like a particular type of food. Medical care is a vital public good – albeit one that is supplied by private individuals acting in the private sector. Whether the Catholic Church intends to put the squeeze on the public, that is the effect of its threat to stop supplying medical care if it is forced by federal regulation to make reproductive medical services available. It might be a principled stand, but it surely is a problematic stand from the point of view of those elected to "promote the general welfare."
You and I can argue about whether abortion is a legitimate medical procedure until we're blue in the face, but the public (and the regulators appointed by our elected representatives, and the U.S. Supreme court)have all decided that it is. As a vital public good, and as a form of commerce, Congress has the authority to regulate medical care to make such services available. And if the consciences of Catholics render it impossible for them to supply this type of medical care, and they're the only local suppliers, something has got to give.
Oh yeah, institutions don't have natural rights.
Joe H.
Comment by darkhorse
Phil -
Just to point out, Joe says right out he believes abortion is immoral…just that it shouldn't always be illegal.
Comment by Horatius
Ah the age old thing: the Church should "get with the times." You have to understand, the Church's job is not to bend to the whims and mores of the times, it is to try to help man navigate the narrow path to redemption. In other words to do what is right. Now they may be wrong in some cases. But I truly doubt that our stance on abortion will ever change.
The church believes that life begins at conception. I would argue that even scientifically, they are right on this score. Abortion, even in the earliest of stages, brings about the death of this life. Now this is not killing in a Just Cause (the church does make certain exceptions for this), most of the time, abortions are done for convenience. The Church does not hold with that and believes anyone who does is either participating in or advocating murder, the commission of a mortal sin.
This is where this whole argument gets even more sticky than has been gone over so far in this thread. Some have suggested as I believe Joe mentioned, that if the Church does not want to stay in the health care business in order not to violate their conscience, then they should simply sell the hospitals to a third party that does not share their values. This brings up a sticky wicket for Catholics- the question of aiding in the sin of others. If the Church sells these buildings to a third party, with the knowledge that the facilities will then be used sometimes to carry out abortions, some have argued that they are then giving consent to the commission of a mortal sin- murder.
I have heard some Archbishops say that if FOCA is used to try to coerce these facilities to carry out abortions, rather than merely selling off the hospitals, they will simply close the doors and hold onto the properties, rather than enter the moral conflicts listed above. I am not trying to add fuel to the fire, just describing how deep the water is.
Comment by Joseph Huster
I would never suggest that the church should "get with the times" if that meant "endorse immorality because its currently popular." I merely pointed out that the Catholic church and the public have come to disagree about what is morally acceptable on reproductive issues like abortion. That's simply a fact, and a big part of the problem from a public policy perspective.
I personally believe that convenience abortions are immoral because they are profane (they fail to respect the sanctity of human life). However, I don't believe that aborting a first trimester fetus is a murder because, at that stage of its development, there is no "someone" to be the victim of a murder. There is a life, but no "someone."
I'm pretty sure the vast majority of Americans would adopt my view, if they gave the matter careful thought. Almost two thirds of Americans think that early term abortions should remain legal and that late term abortions should be banned. And most people remain uncomfortable with abortion at any stage of fetal development. My view makes sense of these facts. The Catholic Church's view does not.
That doesn't mean I'm right and the Church is wrong. But its worth considering.
Joe H.
Comment by Joseph Huster
My last post should have been addressed to Horatio.
My bad.
Comment by Horatius
I take your point, Joe. However, I would still say the Church is not even in the business of making it's members happy, let alone non-members. I would simply restate what I said in my last comment as to why.
I remember after the death of John Paul II, a girl where I worked at the time saying that the Church really should "pick a young guy, or a woman!" I asked her if she was Catholic and she said no and she did not even really believe in God. I pointed out that that is like worrying over who is going to be elected the High Druid this year (for her at least.)
Comment by Phil
You wrote:
Its a difficult problem.
Actually, it's not a difficult problem so long as people are willing to tolerate differences in others. What's so hard about acknowledging that so long as it's Catholics providing the services, they're only to provide those services that Catholics are comfortable providing?
That's why I made the point about "emergency abortions"; what the hell is so hard about driving to the next town to get an abortion if that's what you need to do? Even if it's 100 miles? People who live in remote places like that are USED to traveling for big-city services. And why can't folks live and let live, even if — and I don't believe this is correct — even if a majority thinks Catholics are behind the times?
I simply do not believe that you can produce a single instance, anywhere in the country, where medical necessity justifies forcing a Catholic hospital to offer abortion services. That's a contrived issue, and it's BS.
You and I can argue about whether abortion is a legitimate medical procedure until we're blue in the face, but the public (and the regulators appointed by our elected representatives, and the U.S. Supreme court)have all decided that it is.
More BS. I've never seen a poll asking whether the public thinks "abortion" is actually "medical care" as opposed to elective surgery, nor have I seen that issue addressed in a Court case, so I'm pretty doubtful that you're saying anything meaningful. What the court has decided is that states cannot forbid abortions; nothing says the state can force a facility to provide them. The right to regulate does not include the right to compel a business to offer a service against its will. Can you think of another instance where the state has the right to force a business of ANY sort to provide a service that they choose not to provide?
Furthermore, I'm fairly disgusted at the attempt to stifle debate by invoking a majority view. Again, I'm talking about what's right, not what's legal, and again, you're trying to change the subject. If 100% of the population says Jews are sub-human, that does not make them sub-human, and that does not justify silencing the one guy left who says they're just like the rest of us. And even when talking about legality rather than morality, the system is designed to protect the minority from the whim of the majority; why is this different?
So, no, I'm not going to fold up and go away just because you assert (incorrectly) that something is the majority view. Would you? I didn't think so. So don't ask me to.
Oh yeah, institutions don't have natural rights.
Reread the quotation at the top of this article. Thomas Jefferson disagrees with you. Vis: "Compacts then between nation & nation are obligatory on them by the same moral law which obliges individuals to observe their compacts." If countries have moral obligations, then countries also have rights. Countries are institutions, ergo institutions have both moral obligations and rights.
Comment by TX CHL Instructor
"Governments have no right — ever, under any circumstance — to force people to violate their consciences."
Ok, my JW analogy was contrived. Here are a couple of analogies that are not. They have nothing to do with abortion, but I'm questioning the absolute statement you made above.
1) A blind man with a guide dog is refused taxi service at an airport because all of the taxi drivers in the official queue are muslim, and islam considers dogs to be "unclean".
2) A woman with a bag containing a bottle of wine is also refused taxi service at the same airport, because alcohol is forbidden by islam.
In both cases, no action was taken against the taxi drivers because of fear they might be offended.
So, Phil, what would your recommendation be for handling these non-hypothetical situations?
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I would argue that the government does not have the right to force taxi drivers to violate their consciences — not because they might be offended, but because liberty demands it.
I would also argue, relevant to this topic, that in the case that the government acts improperly and demands the taxi drivers to carry objects that violate their consciences, the taxi drivers are very much within their rights to simply refuse to drive taxicabs; they are not "deliberately harming the public interest" by finding another profession. Same with Catholic hospitals: they are not harming the public interest in any way by refusing to offer abortion services, but if the government demands (improperly) that all hospitals must offer abortion services, then the hospitals are entirely within their rights to close their doors, and the damage done the community thereby is on the government, not on the hospitals.
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so….. those 30,000 guys that went to canada to avoid the draft in vietnam….. you were for pardoning them or????
Comment by Phil
This is a joke, right?
There is a perfectly acceptable means for people of conscience to obtain Conscientious Objector status and spend their service time performing public service rather than military service. It's deliberately limited to people who have a history of commitment to the group which claims this status. Quakers were not required to perform combat duty. The 30,000 draft avoiders were those who did not qualify, and they were lawbreakers. Very different kettle of fish.
What is it with this CRAP people are throwing at me? Don't any of you ever read any of the documents written by the guys who founded the United States of America? I'm not saying anything different from what they said when they broke from England. If you all don't believe this stuff, WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING LIVING IN THE UNITED STATES?????????
Comment by Pat
Many good comments, and you have already covered some of my points. As background, abortion is NOT MEDICAL CARE. Not even remotely. It is medically UNETHICAL and it would be considered very bad medicine if it were considered ethical, because it HURTS WOMEN, the very people it is supposed to help. Surgical abortion is AXE-MURDER by a back alley butcher who is RAPING the MOTHER with his medical instruments. If Catholic hospitals will close rather than provide abortions, more power to them! I've never been a Catholic, but by gum, I'm with them on this one! If anybody thinks women WANT abortions, they have another think coming. As Frederica Mathewes-Green said, a woman doesn't want an abortion like she wants a Porsche or an ice cream cone. She wants an abortion like an animal caught in a trap wants to chew off its own leg. For a woman to submit to abortion is for her to allow the most INTRUSIVE INVASION OF THE VERY DEPTH OF HER BEING that can possibly exist. No, 2/3 of the population does NOT think first trimester abortion should be legal, and the people are rapidly turning against it, as they see what it does to US. We deserve better than abortion. So let's not rationalize abortion as anything but murder, any more than we should say, well, slavery is OK because the majority wants it legal, or treating women like chattel is OK because the majority of Muslim MEN like it that way, or that it is OK to cut off a man's hand for stealing a loaf of bread for his hungry family because that's what Shari'a law says is right. Abortion is the most DESPICABLE attack on women that has ever been undertaken. Since institutions are made up of individuals, they have rights of conscience because their members do, and if you impose something on an institution, you are also imposing it on the members. Thank you, Phil, for speaking out clearly.
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One other thought: forcing everyone to do or provide abortions means that MY RIGHT to get ETHICAL medical care has been destroyed as the entire profession has been hopelessly corrupted, along with their medical judgment. Think this isn't real? I have LIVED it. I was once referred to an abortionist (whom I didn't know) who LIED to me and tried to INTIMIDATE me into an abortion. Supposedly if he wasn't allowed to operate, I would die. I refused, and I'm here to tell you about it 30 years later. And afterward, I had horrible, horrible nightmares, the kind you wake up from in a cold sweat. This is similar to what some women experience after abortion, and I wouldn't wish those off on my worst enemy. My family doctor KNEW I would not accept care from anyone who thinks abortion is OK, because I TOLD him so. So when I asked him why he sent an abortionist to attend me, he said, He was the only one available who could do the procedure you needed. And I responded, As far as I am concerned, he doesn't exist. I never went back to that family doctor. If EVERYONE would take this position, abortion would cease to exist much more quickly than it is ceasing to exist now. Yes, there is a "shortage" of abortionists. They're retiring and not being replaced. Yippee!
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Michael Rosen's A to Z
Former Children's Laureate, Michael Rosen, gathers together the best children's poetry from Agard to Zephaniah in this new collection.
There is a poet for every letter of the alphabet, although there are a few exceptions for trickier letters, where Rosen has played around and given the reader something extra to think about!
From Grace Nichol's poem about her Caribbean gran visiting England to Rosen's own hilarious account of his father's intolerance to 'The Noise', there are poems to entertain everyone.
A brilliant book for dipping in and out of and a wonderful opportunity for getting to know a diverse range of British poets.
Publisher: Puffin
Ride with me
On this lyrical roller coaster
My syllable slices
Will feed your hunger
As they pop up and down
Like a Jamaican toaster
Chilling in my simile cocoon
Just biding my time
The moment is perfect
Let's get ready to rhyme
Watch your step
As my Webb is spun
Drop your baggage at check in
The lighter you travel
The more fun
Submerge yourself, in this
Lip-hop metaphor
Resistance is futile,
As I hold the key to the door
I leave you tongue-tied like Houdini
You'll never escape my barrel of words
Your belly expands with laughter
As you guzzle on my contagious verbs
My acid adjectives
Hack deep into your heart
Reprogramming your software
Be afraid!
Be very afraid
For this is just the start
You'll be my reluctant patient
And I'll play the over enthusiastic nurse
Drip feeding rhythm and rhyme
Through my life saving verse
Bringing forth gifts of expression
With the knowledge of 3 wise men
Verbalizm is the one Like Nio
Now five plus four equals ten
Verbalizm is the ultimate fighter
A lion that can't be tamed
A fusion of text and colour
This canvas is too big to be framed
There'll be no light limericks
This operation is far too serious for that
Lights, camera, action!
Cut! . . .
Now that's what I call a Rap!
Ad-libbing like a master chef
Preparing food, to serenade the nose
One whiff of this concoction
Leaves you spellbound, by my Moorish prose
The Soldiers Came
The soldiers came
and dropped their bombs.
The soldiers didn't take long
to bring the forest down.
With the forest gone
the birds are gone.
With the birds gone
who will sing their song?
But the soldiers forgot
to take the forest
out of the people's hearts.
The soldiers forgot
to take the birds
out of the people's dreams.
And in the people's dreams
the birds still sing their song.
Now the children
are planting seedlings
to help the forest grow again.
They eat a simple meal of soft rice
wrapped in banana leaf.
And the land welcomes their smiling
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(A) Moneys received by the committee of the district lying wholly within the boundaries of a county shall be credited to the "Special Emergency Planning Fund" (hereinafter referred to as "special fund") created in section 3750.03 of the Revised Code. If a district or joint district contains territory within two or more counties, moneys received by the committee shall be credited to the special fund created by section 3705.03 of the Revised Code in the treasury of the county whose county auditor has been designated by the committee as the fiscal officer of the district.
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Tui Tuitele gets it done in the weight events
Missing their top performer, Dante Meade (hamstring pull), Milwaukie's boys track and field team came up short in last week's Northwest Oregon Conference dual meet with Sherwood, losing 93-52.
Milwaukie boys coach Chuck Nott says that Meade would have likely won the long jump, triple jump and 100-meter dash, but it would not have changed the outcome [of the dual meet].
The Mustangs were not without some outstanding performances.
We had 31 PR's, said Nott.
Sophomore Tui Tuitele headed the field in the shot put (41-1-1/2) and discus (121-1). He won the shot put by two inches with his last throw of the night, and his winning throw in the discus was a personal best by 10 feet.
Milwaukie freshman Shawn King turned a few heads in the sprints, earning an unexpected win in the 100-meter dash (11.13) and placing third in the 200 meters with a 24.40 clocking.
Shawn's time for the 100 is the second fastest time in league and the ninth fastest time in the state, Nott said.
Milwaukie junior Griffin Johnson led a Mustang sweep of the pole vault, clearing 12-6.
And, even in Dante Meade's absence, the Mustangs won the horizontal jumps, with senior Taylor Stanford heading the field in the long jump (18-3) and sophomore Devin Meade winning the triple jump (38-4).
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Milwaukie girls ran into a powerhouse at Sherwood, losing 110-35.
They're a strong team, said Milwaukie girls coach Barrie Malcolm. They'll contend for the league title and they have some athletes who will score a lot of points at state as well.
Top performers for the Mustang girls were sophomore Tieara Norman, senior Becky Ponnay, junior Annette Sansburn and freshman Shelby Jarvis.
Norman had little competition, cruising to wins in the high hurdles (16.80), low hurdles (50.18) and long jump (16-6-1/2).
Ponnay won the 400-meter dash in 1:03.91 and Jarvis won the pole vault, at 7-6.
Sansburn was impressive in the shot put, where she launched the iron ball a personal best of 34-1, good for second place.
Even through it didn't show in the scoring, we had a good day, said Malcolm. We had 24 PR's.
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As we all make the transition from summer wardrobe to autumn ensembles, Elle magazine is full of inspiration in the October 2014 Personal Style Issue.
Her performances are always top-notch, and on Saturday (April 16) Erykah Badu once again delivered the goods at the Coachella Valley Music & Arts Festival.
The Grammy-winning songstress took the stage at the Empire Polo Club dressed in a funky hippie-flavored getup and sang through her hit-filled set.
Earlier in the year she was busted for disorderly conduct, and now Erykah Badu has been served her punishment.
Last week, the "Apple Tree" singer paid a $500 fine and will serve six months of probation, according to a Dallas city spokesman.
She's one that typically likes to make her own rules, and when Erykah Badu took it upon herself to strip naked in public for a music video, well, she landed in the hotseat.
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Dec. 14, 2012
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ANN ARBOR, Mich. -- For the second time this season, the University of Michigan men's basketball team will get the opportunity to play in an NBA arena in New York City. After winning the NIT Season Tip-Off at Madison Square Garden during the week of Thanksgiving, the Wolverines will now face West Virginia in the Brooklyn Winter Hoops Festival on Saturday (Dec. 15) at the Barclays Center.
Prior to departing for the Big Apple, again, the team held a media roundtable on Friday (Dec. 14) at the William Davidson Player Development Center.
In addition to coach John Beilein, Tim Hardaway Jr. and Trey Burke speaking with the media, Josh Bartelstein and Glenn Robinson III sat down for brief interviews.
U-M Senior Guard Josh Bartelstein
On their second trip to play in New York City ... "We're really excited. We're playing a great team in West Virginia and to have the Michigan alumni base out in Brooklyn is great. Everyone is talking about the fan support, so I think that's the coolest things, is to play on a big stage in front of a ton of fans that don't normally get to see us."
On Michigan's fan base in New York ... "It's unbelievable. We're playing on the road, but it's going to be Crisler Center in Brooklyn, so we'll be the home team and it will be loud as ever and there will be people singing The Victors hopefully. It will be special."
On what's different about being on the road ... "You're sleeping in a different bed and you're not home, but we try to do the same routine whether we're playing at Bradley or a neutral site game like this. I think we'll be ready for it. We eat together, we do everything together so our freshmen should be ready and the upperclassmen are used to it."
On what the team is looking to improve on ... "I think we still have a lot of things to get better at, which is cool that we're 10-0 and can still improve so much. We're just trying to get better every day and improve. There are so many things we've seen in film, whether it's getting in gaps or playing better team defense, that we can get better at in games. Hopefully tomorrow we see improvement and just keep getting better and better with the Big Ten approaching."
U-M Freshman Forward Glenn Robinson III
On the opportunity to play in New York twice this season ... "It's a great experience -- being down there once and witnessing the atmosphere at Madison Square Garden and now going down to the Barclays Center. It's going to be a great atmosphere and it's really unique to play in a different NBA arena. I think we'll have a tough challenge against West Virginia so we just have to be ready to come out and play again."
On Michigan's fan base in New York ... "It's a great feeling. It's just like it's another home game. Last time when we played down in New York, we had fans out that and that gave us energy to go out there and play as hard as we could."
On what the team saw in film that they can improve on ... "We can never let up on any of our opponents, especially on the defensive end. We're going to find good shots, but we have to stay focused on defense and stay calm."
Contact: Tom Wywrot, Whitney Dixon (734) 763-4423
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Convenience store chain Lawson Inc. plans to expand into the Philippines, it was learned Friday.
The company has concluded a contract with local retailer Puregold Price Club Inc. to set up a joint venture that will open the first Lawson shop in the Philippines later this year, informed sources said. Lawson hopes to have some 500 shops in the country by 2020.
The joint venture will be owned 70 percent by Puregold and 30 percent by Lawson, according to the sources.
Lawson will make the investment through a subsidiary in Singapore.
The Philippines will be the fifth overseas market where Lawson has established operations, after China, Indonesia, Thailand and Hawaii.
Lawson expects high market growth in the Philippines, which has a population of 100 million.


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Today, Rep. Peter DeFazio (D-OR) voted in favor of the Federal Reserve Transparency Act (H.R. 459), which will force the Federal Reserve Bank to open its books to independent auditors for the first time. DeFazio is a cosponsor of the legislation and has supported 6 bills to audit the Federal Reserve since 1989. H.R. 459 passed 327-98.
The Federal Reserve (Fed) was created in 1912 to safeguard our financial system, protect consumers, and oversee the regulation of banks. However, the Fed has seemed more concerned with protecting its own secrecy and Wall Street over the American public.
"The Federal Reserve operates under a veil of secrecy, making deals that benefit Wall Street interests. It's time for the Fed to be transparent and held accountable to the American people for their economic policies. I am proud to be a long time cosponsor of this legislation and urge the Senate to pass this bill quickly," said DeFazio.
In 2011, Bloomberg News reported that between 2007 and 2010 the Fed secretly loaned six Wall Street megabanks $7.7 trillion in taxpayer dollars. The banks earned an estimated $13 billion in extra income off of these secret below-market Fed loans while consumers and small business struggled to access credit or loans. Americans, and Congress, had no idea. Auditing the Federal Reserve would shed light on backroom deals like this that have benefitted the same Wall Street banks that destroyed the economy.
DeFazio has also introduced legislation (H.R. 6023) to adopt conflict of interest rules for the Federal Reserve Board of Directors. Today, the CEOs in charge of the same banks that nearly destroyed the economy remain on the Fed's Board of Directors and are charged with regulating their own industry.
"This outrageous conflict of interest jeopardizes the health of our financial system. Why should the Wall Street banks that gambled with our economy, lost big, and then asked taxpayers for a bailout be allowed to regulate themselves? They have already proven they can't do it. My legislation would eliminate this conflict of interest and prevent banks from stacking these regulatory boards with their own employees," said DeFazio.
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I'm scouting new areas in NY and I've come to a area that looks like state land and has small blus signs maybe 4"x4" that say State Conservation Area. Can you hunt in those areas? I called the DEC office and being a holiday weekend the office on the phone was not sure about what the sign ment. There are no posted signs and there were a couple of Pick ups with NRA bumper stickers so I thing they were deer hunting. Any information would be great.
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April 4th, 2008 | Published in Google Orkut
Posted by Alex Epshteyn, TypeRacer
[As we get ready for apps to go live on orkut, we're excited to invite orkut developers to guest blog and preview their apps here.]
TypeRacer is a typing game that lets you race your orkut friends, in real-time, using your hard-earned keyboard skills.
You start with a little car on the left side of the screen, and you type the given text to make your car move all the way to the right as quickly as possible. Your score will be saved, and your orkut profile will show how you rank among all of your friends, so challenge your buddies to a race! Even if you're not a great typist, your speed will improve each time you play. My own speed went up by 20 words-per-minute while I was developing and testing TypeRacer.
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Paes along with Cara Black bagged two Grand Slam titles in the Wimbledon and the Australian Open in the last season.
At the beginning of this year, he resumed his partnership with old-mate Mahesh Bhupathi, and the two immediately made an impact, winning the Chennai Open and reaching the finals of the Australian Open.
"It's a great feeling representing the county," Paes said after receiving the award.
"I am proud of our athletes, the athletes' performance in the Commonwealth games," he said.
Cricket legend Sunil Gavaskar, while waxing eloquence on the tennis star, wished Paes was a cricketer.
"I wish Leander was a cricketer. Had he been a cricketer, we would have definitely won the World Cup," Gavaskar said.


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I created this large stationery storage holder for Quilt Fabric Delights last week. It's actually for James to keep his stationery, stamps and postcards in because Bella and I have several cute storage holders for these sorts of things and well, James has nothing (until now ofcourse). I deliberately added two big pockets because I thought they'd be fabulous for written and unwritten postcards.
You can find the step by step tutorial HERE. There are direct links in the tutorial for all the yummy fabrics that I've used too. I hope you enjoy it :)
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Repsonsive Theme Stylesheet not updating
Im using the responsive theme and my site was fine last night then today I got a prompt for a Jetpack update. Once I did the update my changes disappeared which is fine because I am not using a child theme. But I went back into the stylesheet to make the few changes and they will not update anymore. I am just updating the title and subtitle fonts. I know how to do it and its showing the correct font size int he stylesheet but wont update on my site. I have no other updates.
Also I have a gallery and the Image Information I usually change from Display Block to None and that change is made but the info is still showing in the gallery.
Finally I got this error: File contains suspected malware URL: /home/content/18/9739418/html/wp-content/plugins/contact-form-7/readme.txt
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Bad URL: http://www.chaaban.info/),
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Issue first detected: 21 mins ago.
Severity: Critical
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This file contains a suspected malware URL listed on Google's list of malware sites. Wordfence decodes base64 when scanning files so the URL may not be visible if you view this file. The URL is: http://www.chaaban.info/), – More info available at Google Safe Browsing diagnostic page.
Any ideas what I should do? Thanks
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Hey everyone,
I haven't made any serious mods to my '08 yet because there hasn't really been anything made for the new models. But i'm getting a a bit antsy. Now, my first issue/question is based on my previous car...I used to have a VW GLI, and i put a cold air, and diverter valve in it, and i loved the "whistle". Would putting a diverter valve do anything for my car in terms of enhancing the sound? I don't ever hear a turbo "whistle" w/ mine, but honestly i just don't know much about the subarus. my ex boyfriend did most of the work to my old car, but i knew a lot more about vw than i know about subbies. Anyhow, any help would be greatly appreciated, i know you guys are the best source for info, so, please....inform me! thanks a bunch!


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Dr. Diana Schwarzbein, who is a graduate of USC's School of Medicine, has become a favorite of medical professionals whose area of care specializes in women, and has been endorsed by celebrity weight loss expert Suzanne Somers in her latest book "The Sexy Years".
Men, however, can also enjoy the program to success, as evidenced by the famous "Dallas" actor, Larry Hagman, who is featured in the website as a testimonial to Dr. Schwarzbein's principles.
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- Program is often endorsed and administered by medical professionals
- The Schwarzbein principle speaks to those individuals who feel they have tried everything and nothing works
- The program is safe, and promotes a number of healthy living principles
- Developed and managed by a medical doctor
- Ideal for peri- or post-menopausal women
- The Schwarzbein Principle is fairly strict and could make it difficult for the dieter who travels a lot or dines out by choice
- For someone who is addicted to alcohol, caffeine or nicotine, one would have to first deal with that addiction in order to use the program successfully
- The program does require the user to be familiar with a number of medical terms, and without the additional gastro-intestinal testing that the website touts, one would not receive the "personalization" that the program offers
The Schwarzbein Principle dictates the following:
- Protein at every meal
- No skipping meals
- Eat real, unprocessed foods
- Drink plenty of water
- Add real carbohydrates and non-starchy vegetables
The menu plan should sound familiar to diabetics, as Dr. Schwarzbein ties weight loss, or one's inability to lose weight, to insulin resistance.
There are two companion cookbooks, one vegetarian, and one not, that include easy to follow recipes with full nutritional breakdown, making it easy for the home cook to incorporate the nutritional guidelines on a daily basis.EXERCISE
Dr. Schwarzbein has used her medical credibility to design an exercise DVD/VHS tape that outlines her principles on activity. By combining Cardiovascular, Resistance and Relaxation into one comprehensive program, you can restore a broken metabolism and heal the body. By using balance balls, resistance bands, and a heart rate monitor, the DVD/VHS format makes it easy to include activity from the privacy of home.CONCLUSION
Dr. Schwarzbein's Principle is one that tries to demystify the conflicting knowledge and opinion regarding hormones, stress, toxins and diet, and how these combine to make someone resistant to losing weight.
In researching the program, one can agree with the principles as they are proposed, but for true success to be realized, one would have to employ their medical professional for assistance with navigating the Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) and the subsequent changes that the body would produce.Common Misspellings
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My husband and I are 59/60 and are healthier now after following most of the Schwarzbein priciple for 2+ years. Yes, we cheat and have wine most evenings, and cookies at Christmas. but we have cut out caffine, never took meds anyway, and have found local and organic sorces for meat. Lvoe that we can have butter, it IS a health food!
Great program that makes physiological sense.
I absolutely live by this diet. I am healthy, no health issues and I absolutely would recommend this to all my friends and family... Especially because youll live a longer, healthy and prosperous life!!! Thank you Dr Schwarzbein, You are amazing.
The last 30 yrs have brought more "lowfat"options than ever before, and OBESITY has gone UP! This and a host of other reasons demand that these principles be considered. They have worked for my wife and I, and have changed our lives.
As a low carb dieter, I have read abd tried most of the low carb plans, including: The Carbohydrate Adicts' Diet, The Zone, Atkins and Suzanne Somers. They all will work initially, but I find myself returning to Schwarzbein due to the difficulty of the Zone plan and Carbo addicts' plan, and because I always begin to feel terrible and feel really restricted. Her plan is slow, but I feel healthiest on it and do still lose weight, but much slower. I love being able to use a bit of butter, and other higher fat foods. It's all about balance and repair before trying to do drastic weight loss. I had written her off for awhile, but now, at age 66, I'm baaa-aaack.\n\n\n\n
I began the regimen under the advice of a physician and have not yet had the medical tests. First recommendation: drink more clear water and eat balance, healthy meals. I feel better already! To address the three "cons": --Yes you will need to do your homework in order to eat out and follow the lifestyle, but it is possible. The friend who recommeded a local doctor and SPII has done it. --Dealing with addictions Is *not* the first step and is *not* necessary to begin feeling better. I am proof--I drink coffee and use artificial sweeteners, both of which are "toxic chemicals." (Yes, tapering off them is part of the total program.) --Technically, yes, but it is possible to receive positive benefits without the tests. (FYI: I am post-menopausal.)
Dr. Schwarzbein may want to look into alkaline/acidic body issues for eating health as well as www.restorativeexercise.com for wellness exercise.
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Why do you care about the individual response to a Flaming Lips album or show?
You have a reputation as someone who cares about what individual Flaming Lips fans think. Why is that? Why do you care about the individual response to a Flaming Lips album or show?
Well, I think you can find space in your life and in your mind to care about a lot of things. And they are the people who have given me this fantastic life. They're the ones who give me the confidence, the money, the freedom to take chances and do things.
I remember back in 1996 when we started to do these parking lots experiments that led to Zaireeka, that led to The Soft Bulletin, that led to Yoshimi ... [The "parking lot experiments" Coyne refers to are a musical project leading up to the release of the album Zaireeka, where fans were gathered to simultaneously play the different tracks of a given song on their car stereos in parking lots.] You know, this series of years I was constantly in awe of how much people believed in us, and believed in me. And it really has an effect in me. And so I'm always ... I want to know what they think, because I want to know if what we're doing, if what we think is working, if it's really working or if we're just up our own asses and don't know.
But I also ... I hold to this obligation that they want me to do my thing. They don't want me to go out there and take a consensus and make the Flaming Lips record that I think everybody wants to hear. They want me to be completely my own design. And they want me to go to outer space ... fucking find some galaxies and asteroids and comets and say, "Look what I found, what do you think?" And so, in that, I think they've given us the freedom to fail. And it doesn't all have to work. "Bring us back these things that you're doing." And so we do.
I want them to know I love them. And they want me to know, they say to me, "You're free. Do whatever your mind can get you to do." And so I do. That's why it's important. I'm not out there kissing ass. I want to do this, but I want you to understand. I want you to be a part of it. I want you to love it. It's like when you cook Thanksgiving dinner for your family. You want them to like it. It's about love.
Can you tell me a little bit about "Found a Star on the Ground", in particular, the Strobo-Trip?
The Strobo-Trip is kind of the modernized version of the Zoetrope. The Zoetrope is a spinning, little series of photographs. And back in the day before they had movies, you would just connect a bunch of photographs, and spin it at the right speed, and it would look like it's in motion. The Strobo-Trip is like a modernized version of that. It has these little discs that you spin, and it has drawings and illustrations on there, and when you hit it with a strobe light at the right speed, they actually move like a little movie. And they're like psychedelic, freaky little, colorful drawings and things.
Um, it's a great toy. We didn't invent it. We found it, um ... my wife found it almost about a year ago. And we thought it was great and wanted to make our own little version of it. And the people who make it and license it said that we could do this thing. And so we did.
And so the six-hour song initially was going to be something that accompanied you while you played with this toy. You could listen to any music, but we thought, "We'll make a song that you can listen to this toy with." And we thought, "Well, how long would you play with this toy?" And we thought it'd have to be at least a couple of hours. And so we sort of arbitrarily arrived at, sort of ridiculously, six hours.
And so we said, "Let's play a song that lasts for six hours." And we didn't think about it that much, but Steven had this composition that he'd been fucking with, that went on for a half-hour anyway. And he was like, "I have this piece of music that really goes by pleasantly. You think it's gone by for only ten minutes, and it's gone for more like a half-hour."
So we were both intrigued by that, and we thought, "Why don't we see if we can make it go on for more than that, for four hours, or five hours, or six hours, and see if we could make it work." So that's kind of how that got started. It starts from a real pragmatic need for something. But one you get into it, you have to surrender to the demands of the music, and all that. And before you know it, you're making a song that goes on for six hours, and you don't think that you're insane.
That's the deal with all these things. You kind of have to kind of go insane before you can do it, otherwise they all just seem like ridiculous ideas. So when you're doing this six-hour song, it opens your mind to do the 24-hour song. And it didn't seem insane at the time. But now that you're in it, you've gone insane, so it doesn't really seem insane to you.
What do you think you can accomplish with a 24-hour song that you can't in the more conventional three-minute pop song?
It's kind of like all experiences. If you're curious, and you want to find out things, not just about the world but about yourself. You know, some people would ask, "Well, why don't you just drink one beer?" Well, I like one beer, but what if I want to drink 10? Or 500? You know, you just want to see what it does to you?
And perception with music is a very powerful thing. There is some music that is not the same if it doesn't go on for a bit of time. There is an intensity at the amount of time that things play. It's just a different experience. And I would say it's like that with everything. You're part of the experience, too.
Like, we fly a lot. And we're on airplanes, and I like flying. And so I'm always kind of aware of how long the flight is. And last, I think it was September, we went to Japan. And so you're sitting in a plane for fucking 13 hours. But when you know you're going to be in a plane for 13 hours, three or four hours could go by, and you won't really think about it. Because you know you're in the plane for so long. And just yesterday, I flew up from Dallas to Oklahoma City, and that's only a 40-minute flight. And the whole time, I'm completely aware of how much time is going by. It seems to fucking take forever. And that is all about perception about where you stand in this ever-moving thing that we call time.
A lot of people say this to me, since we've put out the six-hour song and the 24-hour song. They say they were only able to listen to the first five hours of the 24-hour song. ...which is insane! There are some groups, and their whole catalog doesn't even amount to five hours. And here are some of our fans, who have so much immersed themselves in this, and to only listen to five hours doesn't seem like they've got the full experience.
And I know this isn't for casual music listeners. This is for people who are deep into music and art and ideas and experiences. I wish every group made a 24-hour song.
How married is this format to new technology?
Well, exactly. There'd be no possible way that this could be pleasant, or even worth doing, if you go back to the time of CDs. You've got 70 minutes on a CD, and what are you gonna do? Give people 25 of those? It'd just be impossible. So this way, most of our audience is gonna be able to listen to it through streaming. We have two streams going, of the 24-hour song. They start at midnight, and it goes to midnight the next day. And those are going to go for a year. So you can log on any time, and listen to it virtually for free.
And then there's a handful of people that have bought these human skulls that have the hard drive embedded inside of it, that they can listen to. But that's a pretty expensive, weird object to have.
Does the band have any plan in the future to perform either of these?
Well, I don't think it would be very entertaining to stand in front of any group, regardless of who they are, for six hours, let alone 24 hours. But this isn't performance music. We're not playing this for 24 hours. This is a recording of a compilation of a lot of sounds and a lot of ideas to make this something compelling to listen to. I think sometimes people think that we were performing this for 24 hours, and we were performing some of it for hours and hours. But it's an amalgamation of sounds. It's not like we were just putting microphones in front of us and singing. It's made of a billion different parts.
So no, I don't think we would ever want to torture anybody with something like that. I can see us having experiences that, you know, tie a small group of people in a setting. We put people in a setting and use lights and volume and things to have an experience with a 24-hour song or a six-hour song, but I don't think we'd want to perform it. I don't think that would be very much fun.
What would you think of your fans listening to parts of this music and then coming back to the other parts later, like how someone might read parts of a book?
Exactly! That is exactly what I would say to them. That's how you should look at it. Or you should put it on, while you're doing something else, which you can't really do with a book. I would say if you're carrying his around with you, if you go to a hotel ... put it on one night while you guys are having dinner or doing some drugs or having sex or having a party, and just put it on. I mean, you don't have to listen to it intensely. I think that's the beauty of all music is that sometimes it's just there with you, while you're doing your thing.
And oftentimes, for intense listening, you really can't be doing something else. But this music isn't meant to be listened to like that. It's meant as the air and the shadows in the room with you, and something is happening. But because it's so intense, and some of it is so long, I mean there's a segment of it that goes on for seven hours ... You can't help but be changed by it. It's just a strange experience. It's rarely that you're around music that does that that for that long.
And like I said, I don't think it's for everybody. But I definitely think it's kind of for people who are like me. I'd want to listen to it and check it out.
Are there certain segments of it that you really want people to pay attention to, specifically, and not have anything going on in the background?
I don't know. I think we know what triggers people, and a lot of times, especially with Flaming Lips music, it's about singing. When we're singing, it's like, "Wait, hold on. They're saying something." It's like when anybody's talking. And when music has a lot of intricate changes, it makes you either listen to it or shut it off.
And so, you know ... I wouldn't say we know a lot about music, but we know a lot about the way our audience listens to music, because they're like us. So you know, when we want music to go on for an hour, we present it you as something you can handle for an hour. Because it's hypnotic, and it's not punishing, and it's not disorienting, and it doesn't require your full attention.
And there's another part that goes on for seven hours ... but it's very abstract. And it change, and it does this series of chord changes that are slightly predictable, but they're also very fluid. It's kind of like watching clouds. You know that clouds are moving, and you know that the sun is moving. So it's kind of a little bit of a surprise, but a lot of it's not a surprise. It's just happening. So a lot of it depends on what you're trying to do.
So there are segments during the 24-hour song, where we start to sing. And this would be the time where if you're having sex with your girlfriend ... well, hold on a second, we're gonna sing to you for a couple of minutes, then you can go back to it.
So that's what we do. We don't want to sing to you for 24 hours. We don't want to demand that you pay attention to us for 24 hours. But we still want to be with you. We are like your friend. Anybody who demands too much attention from you, you want to kill them, you know?
Finally, my friend Allie wanted me to ask you about your peacocks ...
Well, we played a show at this old-fashioned cemetery in Hollywood over the summer. And when I went out there to see how we were gonna set up, and talk to the promoters and all this stuff ... we were walking around the grounds, and they had these peacocks there. And they know that I like exotic, cool animals. And we were walking and looking at them and all this stuff. And they said, "We need to get rid of some of these peacocks. Would you want to take them?" And I hadn't thought about it much, but they said that when we came out to do this show, which was about six weeks later, they could present us with these peacocks, and it could be part of the show that we did out there. And I thought that was a good enough reason for us.
And so we got two of them. There was a male and a female. And lo and behold, now there's three of them. Three at the moment, and they all came from this great cemetery in Hollywood.
Do you have names for them?
We don't have a name for the little one yet, but I think Michelle named the two Freddy and Frida for Freddy Mercury and Frida Kahlo. [laughs] But I don't think they know their names like our dogs and cats do.
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I would get those X-rays redone. They are very poorly done and positioning can make hips look *much* worse than they are!
FHO was performed on our two year old female Black and Red. WOW! She was not in pain on the second day and recovered in few months. You would never know it to look at her.
You don't need to redo the xray. that one side has no hip socket and the other is pretty shallow. New Xrays won't change that.
Alot of people have great success with the FHO's.
One is bad, the other is total sublexation. Xrays will not make them better.
My first GSD had two FHO on both her hips. She was a year old. Did one, then the second one about 12 weeks later. Did lots of range of motion exercises the day after surgery and continued about 7 0r 8 times a day until she was putting full weight on it. Lots and lots of swimming and walks.As soon as first one healed up, we did second one.
She did search and rescue for over 9 years after her surgeries.
At least a few have suggested an FHO, but you could also look into a surgery called a TPO. It can only be done in younger dogs (not sure how old your pup is) but the dogs I have seen have it done recover remarkably quickly (wanting to play within about 48 hours of basically have their pelvis cut into three sections and then plated back together).
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After the release of his album in 2006, Morrissey is now holding a tour in North America to support it.
British songwriter and singer Morrissey will visit North America in conjunction to his album "Ringleader of the Tormentors" which was released in 2006. Part of the tour has been scheduled. He will start by rocking Stockton, Calif on April 27 and continue up to Madison Square Garden, New York on June 30.
American singer and songwriter Kristeen Young will be in support of this tour. Young's debut album was produced by Tony Visconti, the same person who is rumored to be producing Morrissey's next album.
Morrissey is the former vocalist of British band The Smiths. He began his solo career after the band broke in 1987. To date, he has collected ten Top 10 singles in UK.


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The HTC Inspire 4G is identical to the European HTC Desire HD, but with AT&T's 3G bands. It is one of the bigger smartphones (4.84 x 2.68 x 0.46 inches (122 x 68 x 11.8 mm)), with 4.3" 480x800 pixels super LCD screen and a line of capacitive keys below it. It is running 1GHz processor and features 8MP camera with 720p HD video recording.
Desire HD is announced as the first USA phone to use HTC's latest version of Sense UI on top of the Android 2.2. HTC EVO Shift 4G will also have this Sense version, but it seems that Inspire 4G will beat it with earlier launch date. To learn more about the new Sense UI, please see our in-depth HTC Desize Z review.


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The devastated family of a banker who fell to his death from an open-air City restaurant paid tribute today to a "wonderful man".
Nico Lambrechts took a lift up to the Coq D'Argent opposite the Royal Exchange last week and plunged 80 feet in front of lunchtime diners and shoppers.
It is the fourth death at Sir Terence Conran's restaurant at No 1 Poultry since the financial crash in 2007.
Today, Mr Lambrechts's sister-in-law was comforting his wife Adele and three children at the £2 million family home in Cobham, Surrey.
She said: "He was a wonderful man and that is why this is such a devastating blow for my sister and the family. He will be so missed and this is all so difficult to come to terms with. We must now grieve."
Neighbour Nita Lake, 82, described Mr Lambrechts as "extremely courteous". "Someone dumped a stolen car outside my house next to the hedge and he came round to help me call the police and get rid of it. He knew I lived on my own so kindly helped out," she said. "He was well liked as are the family. He did not seem to have any problems, he was just a nice chap."
Three weeks ago, Mr Lambrechts, 46, posted pictures on the internet of himself and Adele looking relaxed during a recent holiday.
The South African-born banker, who worked at Investec Asset Management, fell through the atrium of No 1 Poultry last Thursday, landing next to diners at nearby cafés and bars. Medics were at the scene in minutes but could not save him.
Danish tourist Rita Olsen said: "I was texting my friend and suddenly heard a loud bang and a cracking sound, like a whip. Someone screamed and I thought maybe there had been a car crash but when the police showed up I realised someone had died." In May 2007, City employee Richard Ford, 33, died after he fell from the Coq D'Argent terrace onto a bus. In July 2009 stockbroker Anjool Malde, 24, leapt to his death after being suspended by Deutsche Bank. Last month businesswoman Rema Begum, 29, took a sip of wine on the terrace before toppling over the edge.
A 33-year-old man fell to his death from a block of flats in Vauxhall today. Police are treating his death as "unexplained". The man, believed to be Chinese, was found outside Coverley Point in Tyers Street.
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