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Attorney: Brainerd woman won't pay for sharing songs
There are 28 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Nov 4, 2010, titled Attorney: Brainerd woman won't pay for sharing songs. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:A Minnesota woman ordered to pay $1.5 million for sharing songs online is not planning to pay the recording industry, as her attorneys argue the award is not in line with actual harm suffered.
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#1 Nov 4, 2010
Why is this woman the only one being per - I mean - prosecuted for this? And 1.5 million? Don't we have something in our constitution about excessive punishments?
Since: Jan 09
Saint Paul, MN
#2 Nov 4, 2010
You broke the law. You got caught. You pay the price. It's that simple, lady.
#3 Nov 4, 2010
They have got to be kidding. First of all why do they think this is the only person to have done this? If I were her I'd quit my job and tell them to take a flying leap. I can just hear the trash talk in jail. "What you in for?" "Down loading and sharing songs." In the real world she should have to pay the price of the CD the song was on. This is a much more real fine.
Saint Paul, MN
#4 Nov 4, 2010
While I believe that there should be a fine of some kind, submitting this woman to pay such an absurdly high fine seems both unjust and cruel in the extreme. Because of what can be viewed as a minor mistake that many people have done, to literally ruin this woman financially comes across as especially mean-spirited. This is NOT Tom Petters or Denny Hecker here.
#5 Nov 4, 2010
This woman probably earns $20k a year, if that. BTJunkie.org shows 7.5 million p2p current users. This lady didn't evenprofit from her actions. She probably purchased music at some point in her life, and ripped off for spending $20 on a crappy tape that cost $1 to make. Get with the times!
#6 Nov 4, 2010
You're a fool!
#7 Nov 4, 2010
This fine is ridiculous. Yes, she broke the law and she didn't settle her case for several thousand dollars like most of the other people caught in similar circumstances. What would they fine someone on the streets of NY for selling bootleg CDs or DVDs? Let's get real here.
Saint Paul, MN
#8 Nov 4, 2010
I hope they push this unbelievable ruling to the Supreme Court and correct this abuse of power.
Since: Jan 09
Saint Paul, MN
#9 Nov 4, 2010
Because I think people are accountable when they break the law? Then I guess, by your definition, you're right.
Saint Paul, MN
#10 Nov 4, 2010
Hope you have a horrible life too..........a hole!
Saint Paul, MN
#11 Nov 4, 2010
If you put the same punishment on the rich you would have sentences of a trillion years, but they are special people..........
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#12 Nov 4, 2010
At $62,500 per song, divide by $20 an album is 3,125 albums. The prosecution should have to prove her albums prevented the sales of that many albums for every song she shared.
Yes she broke the law, as I'm sure many others have. but Dan Wesson Guy is right, this is more on par with people selling bootlegs on the streets. I think something like $100 per song is far more reasonable, yet still punitive enough to deter this action.
#13 Nov 4, 2010
It's not that simple... there is no precedent for her case.
#14 Nov 4, 2010
There's such as thing as oversimplifying and looks like you have cornered the market on that. Hope you and everyone in your life is perfect. Have a good one....
#15 Nov 4, 2010
Obviously we are not getting the whole story.
Good Job PP.
Saint Cloud, MN
#17 Nov 4, 2010
What is it they have against this one particular woman? She must have money we don't know about, or she wouldn't be appealing and they wouldn't keep going back to court to sue her.
Saint Cloud, MN
#18 Nov 4, 2010
He's on the jury and being paid by the recording industry on the side.
#19 Nov 4, 2010
Good for her! I wouldn't pay them a damn thing either. They have taken this way too far! As many have said here, she didn't do anything different then many people are still doing today. Maybe if the recording industry didn't charge so much for their music in the first place, people wouldn't take it from the internet where it's there for the taking! Breaking the law? BIG DEAL! Jaywalking is breaking the law too. And what she did was akin to jaywalking, as I see it.
Saint Paul, MN
#20 Nov 4, 2010
I wish murderers where fined like this...
26 songs... How many people did she trade/sell to?
If she shared them with 1000 people, I can see it add up. they are obviously setting the precident with her and want to show the nation that *if* you get caught doing this you will have to pay, big time!! Is that right? I am not sure.. Like her saying she refuses to pay why would she?
Fime banruptsy and be done with it...
I don't think they truly got what they should have for her "crime".. I believe it would have been better handled with a smaller fine and community service.. But that is just me..
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Since: Aug 09
Twin Cities
#21 Nov 4, 2010
RIAA never proved that those who downloaded didn't already own the songs, so the lawyer is right - this award is unconstitutional and SHE deserves millions from RIAA for malicious persecution
This is all the music industrys fault for being so stingy and backward on technology.
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What will make Robinson a name to remember in U-M lore is not one game or one season. It will be the culmination of his achievements as a member of the U-M Athletic Department.
He is the first quarterback in NCAA history to rush and pass for more than 1,500 yards in a season, and the sophomore signal caller is definitely one of the most exciting players to watch. Not only did he receive the Big Ten recognition from media and coaches, he is semifinalist for the Maxwell and Davey O'Brien national awards while still being mentioned as a possible Heisman finalist.
He is fast, scary fast. Earlier this year, he went out and ran a 6.81 in the 60-meter dash, winning the event during the Ohio State-Michigan dual meet with little if any form out of the starting blocks.
He said it was "a new experience" to run indoors and win a meet against a Big Ten school, and this year's performance on the football field was a new experience for defensive players who lined up against the Wolverines.
And while many believe Robinson might deserve more recognition, Denard himself doesn't talk about stats and records, he will wait for the recognition he really wants -- a Big Ten title.


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Herbed Fromage Blanc
This dip is wonderful with the Marinated Fried Trout as well as with crudités and brown country bread.
- Servings: Makes 1 cup
- 1 cup fromage blanc or sour cream
- 1 tablespoon minced chives
- 1 tablespoon minced flat-leaf parsley
- 2 teaspoons olive oil
- 1 teaspoon minced tarragon
- Salt and freshly ground pepper
How to make this recipe
In a bowl, blend the fromage blanc with the chives, parsley, olive oil and tarragon. Season with salt and pepper.
Contributed By Ruth Van Waerebeek-Gonzalez Published April 2001


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