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Wed. December 29, 2010 | Chris Girandola
ST. PETERSBURG — A week ago, Gibbs and Boca Ciega battled in an epic game on the Gladiators' homecourt that ended in a 71-66 overtime victory by the Pirates. The teams, along with everyone at the Northeast Christmas Invitational, expected a rematch in the tournament final today.
Everyone, that is, except the tournament host.
The Vikings, behind a stellar performance by senior forward Andres Sanchez, led from the start against the Gladiators and pulled out a 67-60 victory. He hit 12-of-16 field goals in scoring a game-high 29 as Northeast beat Gibbs for the first time in more than five years. It set up a championship meeting with Boca Ciega, a 70-54 winner over Calvary Christian.
"It's pretty huge," said Sanchez, who had 12 rebounds. "Everyone's been talking about Gibbs and Bogie being the powers of Pinellas County. We just felt like we had something to prove. We knew they had the size, they could shoot, and get up and down the floor. The key was playing good defense, disrupting their (three-pointers), and executing our offense."
The Vikings (6-6) did that and more, beating the Gladiators (7-3) to one loose ball after another, in addition to outrebounding the taller and more athletic Gibbs squad 32-19, including 14 offensive boards. It was a marked improvement from when Northeast lost to Gibbs 62-40 Dec. 7, when the Vikings held a four-point lead in the third quarter before being outscored 33-7 the rest of the game.
"That's been the tale of the last two weeks for us," coach Larry Murphy said of the Gladiators, who have lost three of the past four after starting the season with six straight wins. "There's just no pride on defense. It's disappointing because we have seven seniors on our team."
After Northeast ended the first quarter with a 22-9 lead and stretched it to a 15-point lead at the beginning of the second quarter on a jumper by Jimmie Harris, Gibbs stormed back with a 11-0 run over the first four minutes of the second quarter.
Sanchez ended the drought with a layup and, after Gibbs cut the deficit to four a few minutes later, the Vikings would enter halftime with a 34-27 lead on Adam Barker's scooping layup.
Sanchez would score 10 of the Vikings' 15 points in the third quarter as Northeast ended the period with a 49-36 lead. The closest the Gladiators would get the rest of the way was six points, which occurred with 25 seconds left on Devante Miley's layup.
"We handled the pressure well and finished the game with composure," Northeast coach Dave Redding said. "Our kids get after it and they were pesky from the start. We haven't beaten a quality team yet so this is a good win."
Augustus Sanchez added 11 points and 12 rebounds for the Vikings and Barker finished with 10 points and 11 assists. Quincy Ford led the Gladiators with 19 points.
In the nightcap, Boca Ciega earned a lackluster win over Calvary Christian in which the teams exchanged leads seven times before the Pirates took the lead for good on a layup by D.J. White in the second quarter. The sophomore guard was fouled and made the free throw for a 20-18 edge. The Pirates finished the half with a 35-28 lead.
The Warriors (7-3) cut the deficit to 49-45 at the end of the third period. Boca Ciega (10-0) put the game away at the beginning of the fourth with a 10-0 run behind Kyonn Smith's two baskets to build a 61-47 lead.
"They played a triangle-and-two on (Kenny Smith and Dallas Moore) and it affected us for a while," said Kyonn Smith, who finished with 20 points. "In the second half, we clamped down on (Calvary 6-foot-9 center Kyle Wiedinger) and we created easy transition opportunities."
White scored 17 and had 12 assists for the Pirates and Moore finished with 14 points, while Kenny Smith was held to a season-low seven points. Alex Govan had a team-high 20 points for the Warriors and Wiedinger scored 14 of his 19 points in the first half.


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What Led to A.J. Burnett's Seven-Run Inning?
A.J. Burnett recorded strikes on just 53 percent of his pitches Thursday afternoon. (Photo Credit: David Hague)
Busch Stadium has been the home of several A.J. Burnett nightmares, but his Thursday afternoon was a new day terror.
The St. Louis Cardinals attacked Burnett for seven runs without recording an out in the 3rd inning of National League Division Series Game 1. The veteran right-hander escaped a no-out jam in the 2nd by generating two groundballs, but nothing worked out for Burnett in the next frame as all eight batters reached base to end his first playoff start with the Pirates.
"That 3rd I was just too anxious," Burnett said. "Just didn't stay back. Didn't execute anything, and that's been the story here."
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James dabbles in the baseballey-writey world. He won the SABR Analytics Conference Research Award for contemporary baseball analysis. It was for that defensive shifts piece, you remember that? Not a huge deal, he also lost a bunch of other awards. He has also written for NBCOlympics.com, Pittsburgh Magazine, Pittsburgh Sports Report and the official websites of the Los Angeles Clippers and Pittsburgh Penguins. By night, James is a television news reporter and weekend anchor for WKBN and WYTV in Youngstown, Ohio. Makes sense, seeing as how his degree from the University of Southern California is in Broadcast Journalism. James dispenses more bad jokes at his Twitter account, @JamesSantelli. It's there that he promises to write in the first-person.
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Sid Meier, 72 other games
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Ohio's wiretapping law is a "one-party consent" law. Ohio law makes it a crime to intercept or record any "wire, oral, or electronic communication" unless one party to the conversation consents. Ohio Rev. Code § 2933.52. Thus, if you operate in Ohio, you may record a conversation or phone call if you are a party to the conversation or you get permission from one party to the conversation in advance. Additionally, consent is not required for oral communications (e.g., in-person conversations) where the speakers does not have a reasonable expectation of privacy in the communication. See Ohio Rev. Code § 2933.51. This means that you are free to record a conversation happening between two people in a public place such as a street or a restaurant, so long as you are not using sensitive recording equipment to pick up what you otherwise would not hear. In addition to subjecting you to criminal prosecution, violating the Ohio wiretapping law can expose you to a civil lawsuit for damages by an injured party.


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Positive ... Joseph, David and Kristin Giffin and Cherie Blair yesterday.
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Cherie Blair is best known as a lawyer, human rights advocate and the wife of a world leader.
David Giffin is best known as a rugby player, former Wallabies vice-captain and ACT Brumbies lock.
Yesterday they were simply two parents, sharing the anguish of a sick child.
"You're in the best place, you really are," said Mrs Blair.
"We know," said Giffin solemnly.
The pair met in the oncology ward of the Sydney Children's Hospital where Giffin's two-year-old son, Joseph, is being treated for cancer.
Mrs Blair was visiting the ward as part of a five-day, five-city Australian speaking tour to raise money for the Children's Cancer Institute of Australia (CCIA).
Giffin - who withdrew from his role as assistant coach with the Wallabies ahead of their tour of Britain when Joseph was diagnosed last September - was there with his wife Kristin.
The Giffins told Mrs Blair that they first took Joseph to the doctor because he was not sleeping. The toddler was later diagnosed with a tumour in his abdomen and has been receiving chemotherapy since.
The family has moved from Canberra, and Giffin and Kristin take turns to stay in Joseph's room so he does not wake up alone.
Indeed, young Joseph slept through most of Mrs Blair's visit yesterday, waking only to ask for some noodles. The request made Mrs Blair laugh.
The wife of British Prime Minister Tony Blair spent more than an hour talking with young cancer patients, presenting them with jelly beans and fruit drops in embossed No. 10 tins.
And although she was unaware of Giffin's football fame, she happily debated the England cricket team's prospects with a young fan in the next room.
"There's a wonderful atmosphere on this ward and a lot of positive hope here and really it is based in fact because this is the centre of some excellent research," Mrs Blair said.
The visit was Mrs Blair's last formal function before her final charity dinner at the Westin last night. Sydneysiders paid $295 a head to attend.
The tour has been marred with controversy - Mrs Blair mistakenly referred to New Zealanders as "Australians" and has been criticised as being insipid rather than inspiring. There have also been reports she will pocket $250,000 for her efforts.
The CCIA has rejected the reports, saying only that the tour would raise the $500,000 needed for the institute to join a prestigious international consortium trialling drugs used in the treatment of childhood cancer.
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I am really grateful to this thread for providing support and help for exhaust modifications. As a result of reading this, I had the twin resonators towards the front replaced with straight through piping, and have for the time being left the middle muffler set up and left the stock mufflers. The difference is more burble, slight deeper and meaty sound, and acceleration is noticeably louder but not over the top. Acceleration also seems more free especially on low revs, which is probably due to less back pressure. The exhaust shop said the twin resonators were full of wire wool, which pushed the exhaust into the sides of the resonators and around, which must have caused slowing of the exhaust gases. Exhaust shop BMW expert said that this is now how the car should sound.
So to help with the general information on this thread and to add to the 'database' of sounds, I have uploaded a video of before and after - I have to say though the video does not do a huge amount of justice to the difference, but in real life it is more noticeable. Without the top down, the sound with modest acceleration is nicely louder than stock, and with the top down, much more noticeable, even when just sitting in traffic.
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A selection of pictures and interesting web links related to microbiology.
Live Helicobacter pylori, a bacterium that causes stomach ulcers.
(Picture thanks to Jim Sullivan's Cells Alive!)
See below for more pictures....
Profile: Antibiotic resistance:
Alliance for the Prudent Use of Antibiotics
Related sites:
Biochemical Pathways (by ExPASy and Boehringer Mannheim)
BioMedNet (register for free)
Macromolecular Museum - Kenyon College (cool way to view proteins in 3D)
Periodic Table
Virtual Library
For local reference - UBC
sites and other links:
R.E.W. Hancock Laboratory
UBC homepage
UBC library
UBC Microbiology and Immunology Department
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Enteropathogenic Escherichia coli (otherwise known as EPEC
and shown in green above) induces the formation of pedestals
on the host cell surface (Photo Copyright B.B. Finlay).
Visit Brett Finlay's Laboratory for more information.
Photo: Copyright © - Susan Farmer
Escherichia coli treated with an antimicrobial cationic peptide
at low concentration (left)
and high concentration (right). Note the formation of blebs (small spheres of membrane)
that are coming off of the bacterium, as the membrane is damaged.
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The Browns tried to upgrade their quarterback position by dumping Derek Anderson and Brady Quinn, and by adding Seneca Wallace and Jake Delhomme.
Key word: "tried."
Will it make a difference? PFTV explores.
The Browns tried to upgrade their quarterback position by dumping Derek Anderson and Brady Quinn, and by adding Seneca Wallace and Jake Delhomme.
Key word: "tried."
Will it make a difference? PFTV explores.
I spent a night in tiny town in Wisconsin once and their small town nightly news cast that broad casted to no more than 40 people looked better than these crappy basement videos.
Jake and Seneca won't make a differnce at all.
The browns need to work on thier O-Line and then worry about skill players.
if you don't have a line you have jack squat.
There was nothing wrong with anderson. it was the fact that they had no line to protect him with.
I think Show went for attitude here. Lack of a Farve on somebodies bench. He's bringing in guys that will be all bright eyed and bushy tailed. Got rid of the animosity at the QB position. He'll draft QB's (Wolf did every year) and is hoping that Delhoome becomes his Doug Pederson for Show's next Brett Favre.
Cleveland is clearly going to draft a QB high in the draft. Problem is Bradford and Claussen will probably already be gone by the time they pick. Look for them to limp through the 2010 season while they get the new guy ready for 2011 (if there is football in 2011).
A text to Tom Brady may have helped WR David Patten return to the Patriots.
The text was …
"Tom, U aint stil beina brown nose kiss azz n stil goin 2 voluntary workouts like a little bitch are U? UR frend D.P. – N I don't mean Double Penetration! LOL!!!"
Who cares about Cleveland?
It's a cat's watering hole.
Anyone who watched DA and Brady Quinn play last year realize that ANYTHING is an upgrade.
Perhaps a change of scenery will revitalize Delhomme's career. Charlie Weis is likely interested in reuniting with Quinn in KC, too, just to see if there is anything he can do to juice up the QBs career before he starts his next career selling insurance for his uncle Pete.
I wouldn't draft Clausen and I especially wouldn't draft Bradford with the #7!
Clausen and Bradford are later 1st round early second round picks!
Bradford's health record is a major turn off, I don't care how much weight he picked up.
Slow release and spread offense, the Rams, Lions, Bucs can have him!
If there was a rookie pay scale, then yeah – he would be a good value @ the #7 – but with the current system, no way I'm dropping that much cash on a shoulder injury away never has been, who has yet to take a professional snap!
Delhomme still has game in the tank. Simply, he lost his confidence and stopped playing football. Even players (after his departure) have come to his defense stating that Jeff Davidson failed frequently to put him in a position to succeed, not to mention his surroundings (OL and WR corps) wasn't much to write mom about. Steve Smith, that is it, for those that want to argue.
In Cleveland, he gets a clean state and the confidence from MH to start. Has he lost something in his deep range, 20+? Yep, lost his accuracy most in that area. BUT, this will be a power run with WCO passing game. Jake will be required to hit the 19 and under routes and his accuracy in that range was over 60%.
Lastly, for the poster at the top, Joe Thomas, Eric Steinbach, Mack, _______, Pashos. Not a bad line at all coming in and I wouldn't be surprised to see a RT selected to start, moving Pashos to Guard where he could really extend his career and value being the run mauler he is!
Who Dey Ochocinco says:
March 18, 2010 12:00 PM
Get a clue or don't make a post in which you know nothing about. They need on position on the oline to fill and that is right tackle. The left side and center is a great line. To say the don't have a line is plain stupid!! When you have 2 qb's who throw at the feet of a reciever on a 5 yard slant and can't complete more than 52% of your throws in 2 years combined means they Suck!! Keep up the good work Holmgren!!
@Who Dey Ochocinco sez:
"There was nothing wrong with anderson. it was the fact that they had no line to protect him with."
Obviously, you never watched a game with Anderson @ QB…otherwise you wouldn't have said anything that stupid. But, then again, based on your user-name, maybe I'm mistaken.
Anderson can throw at the Arizona turf now. There isn't much sorrow around Cleveland that he was sent packing. He had a big arm. Too bad he never knew where the ball was going to end up. No one did…especially his receivers.
Florio might have a point: Why not hang on to Quinn a bit longer? Its not like Brett Ratcliffe is going to storm to the front of the pack as your #1 starting QB.
I am pretty sure that the last thing that Delhomme brings to the Browns is 'stability'. Stability is not bring in someone who had 26 turnovers in 12 games (playoff game plus +11 games 2009). Guaranteeing him 7 million dollars is even worse.
Peyton Hillis might be a really good situational back. The combination of Hillis and what will probably be 2 sixth round draft choice just seems a little wee bit slim for a quarterback. Quinn's base salary is around 700k. It cannot be much more than Ratcliffe's contract.
So does this mean the Browns are going after Bradford? Perhaps. Can they get him ? Highly unlikely unless they want to cough up half of their 2010 picks. Claussen ? He could fall to the Browns at #7 but you have KC, Wash and Seattle ahead of you which makes that scenario highly unlikely. I doubt Mangini and Claussen would work together.
Mccoy fits a west coast offense. However, his size and arm strength are major red flags. Tebow is too much of a project. My guess is it will be either Lefevor, Levi Brown or Sean Canfield if they draft a quarterback.
The Browns have absolutely no wide recievers. It's hard for any QB to succeed when there are 10 dropped passes in every game. They really should look at bringing in a guy like Dez Bryant.
Hey- WhoDeyOchoWhino!! Just goes to show HOW LITTLE Bungle fans know about football (even when it's in their own division.) The Browns only issue with the Oline was the Right side couldn't get enuff push to help them run the ball. They had less sacks than every other team in the division except Baltimore.
Anderson has a cannon arm and peanut brain~! Don't act like you watched him in anytime other than v. the Bengals (even then, in that game, unless you were three sheets you witnessed his 4 int. melt-down when the playoffs were on the line~!!) Stop trying to show your intelligence by spitting up total b.s. about a team you know nothing about! Quinn was inaccurate and WAS given his chanceS, Anderson was well-paid to panic, throw numerous Pik-6 INT'S, including two memorable ones in two very close, winnable games v. Ravens IN THE SAME SEASON! Anderson is a big tease, and even though he'll have Fitzgerald now he WILL throw picks and frustrate the hell out of Cardinal coaches and fans. Book it. He had no composure in college, has NEVER come close running a "good, solid two-minute drill" 1x in as a pro, and will trip over his own big feet at theworst time possible or throw a pick when a game is on the line. His all-pro year (he was an alternate who got in, btw) was a fluke…, and his re-$igning, along with Crennel getting a new deal after that season, is THE REASON Phil Savage not only was fired, but can barely get a "sniff" from another team to even work as a full time scout. I didn't see that many teams knocking the door down to sign him when the Browns cut his asz, and I doubt he can even beat out Leinart, another Pac-10 QB "super under-achiever" that's been whoafully OVERpaid.
Bengal fans…, what tools.
Go Browns! (and "Fear the Man Upstairs"…he may be coming for you next!)
The only starting QB in the league worse than Delhomme was Derrek Anderson last year. Cleveland has downgraded from Brayd Quinn.
Denver's QB situation is now light years ahead of Cleveland's with Chicago's and cleveland's rejects (how bad is that).
I have no idea what they are doing in Cleveland, but they are not looking to win in 2010.
Funny how PFTV pretends that Jake Delhomme's entire career is irrelavent other than the last year and a half. Apparently, Florio is 100% certain that once a player strings together a bad season or two, it is impossible to ever recover- hence the cute graphic during this clip that calls him "Jake the Joke".
No one's in denial about how bad Delhomme was last year or how he folded faster than Superman on laundry day against the Cards in the playoffs.
However, considering the guy is getting out of a situation he's probably been miserable in and will get a fresh start in an offense that supposedly will favor a shorter passing game, I wouldn't rush to judgment just yet.
I wonder if when Anderson signed his contract with Arizona he had a ski mask on and was in a get away car – 'cause he flat out stole that $!! The Browns' o-line is 1 stud RG/RT from being ELITE, that's why they needed to get some QBs in here that didn't hit guys in the back/feet/helmet with the ball. I don't think that Delhomme or Wallace are spectacular by any stretch, but they cannot possibly be as bad as DA or Quinn. Those guys were tuurrrible. They made the games almost unbearable to watch. At least Delhomme has had some sustained success in the league before, and will be a good guy to mentor the young QB they draft – hopefully in the 2nd or 3rd round. No way I touch Bradford or Clausen — both overrated garbage.
There is nothing more entertaining than reading a Browns fan forum. It's like a losers convention going at each others throats. One has to wonder if the Browns are such perrenial losers BECAUSE of their fans. WHo knows how many Browns players hate their own hostile fans. They lash out at everyone – even their own players and other fans.
"Who Dey Ochocinco says:
March 18, 2010 12:00 PM
Jake and Seneca won't make a differnce at all.
The browns need to work on thier O-Line and then worry about skill players.
if you don't have a line you have jack squat.
There was nothing wrong with anderson. it was the fact that they had no line to protect him with."
Yeah, because we all know Joe Thomas sucks; Eric Steinbach is horrible; and Alex Mack is a bust…….
The Browns have a great left side of the line. Thomas is a perrenial all-star and and Steinbach is a good OLman as well. Mack showed good promise last year at C. It's the Rex Hadnot, John St. Claire, Floyd Womack, etc…travesty we had at the right side of the line. Signing Pashos should help solidify the right side of the line whether he plays RG or RT. Is Pashos an all-star? No, but he's no scrub either.
My favorite line though: "There was nothing wrong with anderson. it was the fact that they had no line to protect him with."
Maybe you were watching a different Browns team than I was the last few years. Anderson had a cupcake 1st half schedule in 2007 (hence why he put up good numbers), but when the schedule got harder, he went back to being himself.
Anderson blows.
And you "whodeyochocinco" have got to be one of the least intelligent people to post on this board.
Its a worse situation then last yr by far…wallace is decent but Jake is DONE.He needs to be taken out back like a old crazed dog! and we are in no way shape or form taking a QB in the First.and if anyone wants to draft Claussen,please go have a psych evaluation ASAP!….We need Defensive help so we need to take that in the first because we need a stud
gotta love how the PFT guys talk about honesty not being the best policy with Holmgren…
…this site has made a living at guessing on or exaggerating the details then parlaying it into a cash cow home-run.
As a Browns fan, I'll just say I'm now ambivalent towards this team
The upgrade would have been McNabb.
Remember how badly Kurt Warner looked as a Giant? He should have just hung up his cleats after that right?
Go Browns!
Go Delhomme!
The Browns will draft the Tennesee safety in the 1st, and the best remaining QB in the 2nd. That QB will go right into Holmgren U for a year while Delhomme shows if he still has it or not. If Delhomme doesn't have it, Senneca Wallace and Cribbs will see a lot of time in the backfield running gadget plays.
I hear there is a QB of the Month Club whereby you receive a new QB to review for 30 days………if you enjoy the selection, you may keep. If not, simply return for credit!
Hiller and Skelton will also be in the draft mix, but probably later on (4th, 5th round).
Delhomme and Wallace are a definite upgrade over Quinn and Anderson. Delhomme will have a good situation to get his condidence back on a team where expectations are not so high. A Seneca Wallace, Josh Cribbs duo in the wildcat offense will be a nice twist too.
The Browns STARTING O-line isn't really that bad. Depth on the O-line is what they lack. A possible move up in the draft could bring the Browns Russell Okung however ther is still time to address the depth issue through free agency or later draft picks, they have a ton of picks.
As for the draft – Don't look for the Browns to use their first round pick on a QB. This is an exteremly deep QB draft. Instead, look for the Browns to go with either the safety Berry or cornerback Haden in the first round. They'll take another defender in the second round. Possibly a cornerback if they Berry falls to them in the first round. The third round is where the QB will come from. I look for either Dan LeFevour, Mike Kafka or Jevan Snead to be the Browns new hope for the future at QB.
Jake & Seneca are decent "blue-collar" QBs that will get the job done until a true QB can be found and groomed MH style.
DA & BQ will get a fresh start w their new teams. There was no hope for either with the Clowns. The Browns organization, the HCs and the OCs that blew in and out of town ruined them. Maybe now, after 10+ yrs, we finally have a legitimate NFL organization. It will still take several years to see any trophies in the lobby but, they're coming. 🙂
I wish them all good luck with their respective teams.


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As baby is growing... so am I... and I definitely feel the strain on my body!!! From sharp shooting pains in my back when I bend over or pick something up to my feet aching... I am feelin' it for sure! With that being said... I feel like I gotta keep moving around... ya know... stay active. I have been on vacation this week and baby has been an incredibly good sport. We have been continuing our adventures!!! From the Alpine slide and makin' s'mores to the 16 mile bike ride we all did together, the trip was a blast!!!
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Max Hertel established a motor business in Chicago, USA in 1895. He entered one of his early cars in a race held in Chicago on 28 November 1895 but it failed to start due to mechanical problems. In 1898 Hertel established the Oakman Motor Vehicle Company in Philadelphia with a factory at Greenfield, Mass. Hertel later made Impetus cars in France. An 'Oakman-Hertel Motor Wagon' of very similar design to the Museum's example was displayed at the New York Cycle Show held at Madison Square Gardens, New York in January 1899.
This four-wheeled motor buggy was made by Max Hertel of Chicago, U.S.A., to the order of Canadian-born Melbourne businessman John Pender. Pender later wrote that he had ordered the buggy during a visit to North America in 1896. The vehicle arrived in Melbourne by steamer on 8 November 1897 and is believed to be the first motor vehicle imported into Australia. Mr Pender took the machine for its first trial run from Brunswick to the Coburg tram terminus on Saturday, 13 November 1897. In December 1897 it broke down and caught fire briefly near the Carlton Football Ground in Royal Parade suffering serious damage. The vehicle is powered by a twin-cylinder 3.5 horsepower (2.6 kw) internal-combustion engine. In February 1898, Mr Pender and his Hertel were still such a novelty that the Melbourne Herald reported to readers that:
'There was a motor car seen about town yesterday, in which were Mr J. Pender of Brunswick and Mr Edwin Phillips, Patent Agent. Mr Pender who was in charge appeared to have thorough control of the vehicle and steered round the corners and through the many vehicles at the intersection of Swanston and Collins Streets, with great skill.' So novel was the concept of an internal combustion vehicle that it was described as operating on "the fumes of oil". In fact it ran on a spirit known as stove naptha, with a fuel consumption of 9 miles per gallon (31.3 litres per 100km). Pender donated the Hertel to the Museum in 1914.
John Pender was a well known Melbourne manufacturer of horseshoes and horseshoe nails with a large business in Tinning Street Brunswick which produced most of the machine-made horseshoe nails used in Victoria. Production was estimated at about 40 million nails per year in the early 1890s. Pender also exhibited his wares at the 1888 Melbourne Centennial Exhibition.
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2100 mm (Length), 1230 mm (Width), 1515 mm (Height)
C.N. Georgano in The Complete Encyclopedia of Motorcars 1885 to the Present, George Rainbird Ltd, London, 3rd ed 1982
[Book] Georgano, G. N. 1982. The Complete Encyclopedia of Motorcars 1885 to the Present., 1982, 3rd edition, p.303 Pages
[Journal] American Machinist Magazine., 23 Feb 1899


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Many teachers would be afraid to be in the same classroom with some of the students Darrell Hamlin has taught. Few would likely want to take a dozen of them on a field trip to Mount Rainier. Hamlin tells many of his memorable stories from his teaching career in his new book, "North Star Platoon."
Hamlin graduated from Wilson High School. His career as an educator began in 1982, when he became an assistant track coach at Wilson. For the next three years, he worked on his degree at Central Washington University, where he majored in history and political science.
Soon Hamlin was teaching at an alternative school on Tacoma Avenue called Region 5 Learning Center. It was a joint venture between Tacoma Public Schools and Washington State Juvenile Rehabilitation Administration.
The students he taught had been involved in a range of criminal activity: drug dealing, burglary, prostitution.
One of the more notable students was Clark, from Spanaway. When he arrives, Hamlin and the other educators are well aware of his situation. Hamlin does not reveal it at first, only hinting that Clark did something notorious that generated much coverage in newspapers and television newscasts.
Hamlin is at the entrance meeting with Clark, his father and grandmother. Hamlin describes him as a normal teenage boy. After some time in his class, Hamlin is impressed with his intelligence. Clark is academically beyond the other students, more knowledgeable than Hamlin on some topics.
Excerpts from articles in The News Tribune about Hamlin's students appear at several points. One, written by John Gillie in the April 30, 1993 issue, explains Clark's crime.
A secretary at the school, not known to other teachers, had nominated Clark for a youth of the year award. We learn from Gillie's article about the nomination that Clark had admitted to killing his mother with an axe. His first trial ended in a mistrial in January, after the jury deadlocked 10-2 in favor of conviction. His second trial was to start that June.
Hamlin took students on field trips, often to Mount Rainier National Parks, other times to a small cabin he owned on a lake. Students had to exhibit good behavior to be eligible for these outings. Many of the Tacoma kids had never been to the great outdoors within view of their urban settings. The book's title refers to a nickname for his platoon of young adventurers.
Many students were gang members, affiliated with various sets of the Crips and Bloods. Sometimes rival gang members clashed, but other times they could collaborate to achieve something positive. One example occurred on an outing when a girl wandered onto a narrow ledge and was too scared to walk back. Two boys, a Crip and a Blood, volunteered to go up and get her down.
Hamlin certainly became street smart during his years teaching at Region 5. His wife used to drive a red Pontiac Sunbird. Two months in a row, on the 23rd, the driver's side window was shot out. He told another staff member about paying the insurance deductible. A Hilltop Crip student who overheard his remark pulled him aside and informed him that after the monthly gang meeting on the 23rd, Crips would roam the area attacking anything red. Hamlin wisely began leaving the car in his backyard every 23rd day of the month.
His students make appearances, sometimes just in his memories but other times in person. He is pleased to run into some as adults, happily married with children of their own. Many others end up in prison or dead.
Hamlin consistently points out the good qualities of most of the students and notes that some have grown up in very dysfunctional families. He is an advocate for their right to get an education and a shot at a good life in the future.
Hamlin clearly feels the switch from junior highs to middle schools was a mistake. He notes that many of his students got involved in criminal activity at age 14 or 15, during ninth grade. He thinks these kids are too young for the high school environment and belong with seventh and eighth-graders. He presses this point a few times, but could have put more emphasis on it.
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This thread was split off "Car builder took my money" because, although related to the original topic, this subject really deserves its own thread. This post by MartinSR was edited only to include this explanation so that new readers will be able to understand where this thread picks up. The original thread may be found HERE
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I have probably posted this here a few times over the years but I thought this thread needed it.
We had a transmission shop in the building where my body shop was that had more Bud cans and case cardboard in the garbage bin than tranny filters! No kidding! The owner would have a Bud can in his hand at eight in the morning! He eventually moved up to crank and ran the business into the ground leaving it and most his tools for who ever wanted them! No kidding!
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Confessions of a body shop owner.
By Brian Martin
�Anybody know of a good body shop in (enter your city name here)?�, �How do I get my body shop to work on my car?�, �My car is being held for ransom!�, or just simply �Body shop Blues�. I�m sure you have all seen topics similar to these posted. Gentlemen, my name is MARTINSR and I was one of those dirty rotten bastards that would keep your car ten times longer than I promised.
For the guy not doing his own body work or at least not all of it, he is at the mercy of the body shop. It is not a nice position to be in. In fact, it can go down as one of the low points in your life. I have seen horror stories that would make your hair stand on end. A long time customer of mine (he owned about 60 cars and usually had a few in shops around the area at all times) had a car that was held as evidence in a murder. Yep, it had blood splattered on it when one of the shops owners killed the other with a baseball bat!
The following is my generalization of restoration shops that I have owned, seen or worked at. There are exceptions to the rule. Please don�t beat me up if I have rolled your shop into the mix when you are an exception. But, if you do see yourself, I suggest you get down to your neighborhood junior college and take a course or two in business. One of the great myths is that we each think our business is so unique, we can�t learn from a �regular� business class. Well after much instruction and exposure to the business side of things I can tell you, business is BUSINESS. Whether you are running a liqueur store, a cat house, or a body shop, they are all exactly the same. Sales are SALES, period.
So, we can agree a body shop is a business, being a good body man does not make you a good businessman. Restoration shops are usually owned by good body men, not good businessmen. It is very hard to make money doing restoration work, it is very easy to make money doing regular collision work. The business man makes his money doing collision work and tells all the customers with restoration work to go to Joe�s Body shop down the street, he does the restorations. Joe loves doing what he is doing, but seldom makes much money. He is an artist, a true master at his craft. Joe sees things at what they can �become�, not what they �are�. When Joe sees a car he doesn�t see the time it will take to make it the show winner he knows it will be, he only sees it as the show winner. I really don�t believe he means to lie to you when he says it will be done in a month, he is looking at through rose colored glasses, his vision is altered. Like a woman forgets the pain of giving birth, so does Joe when he gazes upon the beautiful car he has carried for nine months (or longer). And when the next rust bucket rolls in, he has forgotten about the hundreds of hours needed, he only sees a luscious rose garden.
Like I said few make a living at restoration or hot rod work. The biggies that you have heard of like Roy Brizio or Boyd Codington all make money with other ventures, not the rod shop. The first time I visited Brizios shop this was very apparent. The rod shop is about 5000 square feet sitting in the middle of a 50,000 square foot building. The rest of the building is Brizios manufacturing business. It is all non auto related by the way. The rod shop is a hobby, I don�t doubt for a second he makes money, but it is a hobby none the less.
So when you go looking for a shop to do your car you have to remember this, you are most likely going to be dealing with an artist. If you think the business end of it is going to go smooth, think again. If you build yourself up and believe everything, you are in for a BIG let down. If you set yourself up for less than that you will be much better off. I suggest getting ready for MUCH, MUCH less and then you will be happy when it only takes five months instead of the ten you got ready for. If he said one month and that is what you are planning, by the time five months rolls around you are ready to kill someone.
These are HUGE generalizations but I have found a few signs that may help you in picking out a shop. If nothing else they will help you understand who you are dealing with.
1. If there is more than one car sitting in the shop covered with dust, this may be a bad sign. If you have been around body shops much you know that dust build up is like the rings in a tree, you can tell by the layers and colors how many YEARS it has been sitting. If there is a car that is being used for storage of misc. boxes and things, bad sign. My brother used to joke that I should bolt a vice on the fender of the car, at least I could get some use out of it! Coyly ask �Cool car, is that yours?� if he says �Naw, it�s a customers�, BAD SIGN. If there are ten stalls in the shop and six have dust covered cars in them, RUN. I shouldn�t have to tell you this one, but if there are guys hanging around with beers in their hands, RUN.
2. How many stalls does he have? I have found that the real restoration/rod shops seem to have only room to have three or four cars at a time. If you only had room to work on three cars, you are going to be damn certain they get out so you can have room for the next. One of the most successful custom shops I have ever seen was a little four stall shop in Pittsburgh California. It is the famous (well at least on the west coast) DeRosa and son Customs. Frank has been around since the fifties making show winning cars. He and his son Frank Jr. do the same today and do it FAST. They a neat, little and clean shop. If you have seen the 2001 DuPont calendar they did the �Cadster�. It was only in the shop for a few weeks. By the way, it doesn�t have DuPont primers on it like the calendar says, Martin Senour primer was used.
3. Does he look at your car like they do at the McPaint shops, you know, all jobs all colors the same price? If he doesn�t take a good long look at the car taking notes, he has no clue what he is doing. He is looking at the car with those rose colored glasses. Every single panel should be examined and noted for the amount of hours needed. If he just looks over the car without doing this he is surely going to be WAY off. If he is way off on how much he is charging you, what incentive does he have to work on it?
So let�s say you have a shop you would like to bring it to, you really need to case the joint. Turn into a stalker and keep an eye on the shop. You know for months that you are going to need a body shop. Watch the shops for months. Drive by during business hours and see if they are actually open. Many of these guys (remember they are not good businessmen) take their open sign as sort of a guide line. If it says 8:00 to 5:00 it is more like 9:15 to 2:00 then 4:25 to 7:00, they can�t get your car done like that. See if any cars leave. If you go by there and see the same cars sitting there and many little jobs going in and out, BAD SIGN. I have to tell you, those little money making collision jobs are dang hard to turn away. If I had a million hour job sitting there and it was the 28th of the month I am going to set it aside for the $800.00 job I can do in two days to pay the rent.
If they don�t allow you to walk around and check the place out, be wary. Look at the paint dept, does he have a booth? Is there junk and open cans all over? Is there many different brands of paint? This is usually not a good sign, he buys anything he can get his hands on. This is many times the sign of a �junior chemist�, they guy that mixes products and doesn�t follow tech sheets.
If you have decided that this is the shop you want to go to, help the poor guy. You �suggest� to him how you want to go about the money part. This is the ONLY way you should do it believe me. Don�t give him a deposit and leave the car. This is darn near a guarantee that your car will be sitting for weeks while he uses that money to buy parts for a high profit collision job or simply pay a long standing bill. Which then leaves your car sitting there with no incentive to work on it.
Here is what you need to do. Tell him that you want to do only ONE of the things on your car, at a time. You want to get a price for all of them maybe so you know what it is headed, but do only one at a time. You will pay him for one step at a time. Not because you don�t trust him, but because YOU are bad with money and that YOU don�t want to leave him hanging after the car is done with no money to pick it up.
This way it is more like he is in control and made the decision. Then you negotiate the time it will take for each step. Let�s say you have patch panels to do on the front fenders. You agree that he will have them done at the end of the week, and that they will cost $200.00. He has something to work for, he knows he will get the money and he actually does it. You go see him on Friday see the work done and give him the $200.00. Then you pick another thing to do. Just as if you were doing these things at home, break them down into bite sized pieces so he can swallow them. If you go in there and find that he hasn�t done it or he has done poor work, you can then say �I am sorry to yank your chain, I don�t have any more money, I just lost my job� and take the car, no body owes a thing. If he does not want to do this, you really need to start rethinking your choice of a shop. Either this or variation of this should be fine with him. If it is not, something is wrong.
If he really wanted to make money he would be doing this. The first restoration job I ever did where I really felt I made money was done just this way. It was a little �58 Bug eye Sprite. I had decided that something had to be done or I would fall into the same trap as before with a car sitting forever. One of the first shops I ever worked at was a full on restoration shop. It broke the rule and was pretty big, with four full time employees. Every car had a time card assigned to it. When you worked on the car, you punched in. Then each month (these were HUGE frame off restorations on 30�s and 40�s vintage Fords) the owner would receive a bill with the times worked. If they couldn�t pay, the car left, period. The guy made money and I finally got smart (after about 12 years in business) and followed his lead. I put a sign on this Bug Eye and would post the hours I spent on it. I told the guy to come by each week. Now, when the guy came in and saw only two hours were spent, he was not very happy. That was a heck of an incentive for me right there I will tell you that! It worked great, I actually got paid for every minute I worked, unlike most restoration projects. And he actually got the car back in close to what I said. It was still late, but not ten times as late as I had done before.
Another thing I highly recommend is to take plenty of photos of the car, really detailed photos. When you drop the car off leave him a copy of them. Letting him know you have a copy. Not threatening like �I am doing this so I can prove you lied to me� more like �I can�t wait to see how different it is and you can have these before shots to show future customers�. Which is true, it is just not the only reason you are doing it. If he is doing a full on restoration for you, I HIGHLY recommend parts like chrome and interior be taken home after he removes them so they don�t get stolen or damaged. You need to have a very close relationship with the shop, if these visits make the guy edgy, you really need to find another shop.
If you have the attitude that you are genuinely interested in how this work is done, not how he will do YOUR car, but just in general. You will find that he will be much more likely to �show off� his talents than if you go in there like an untrusting customer.
Along with these photos you want a VERY detailed work order. Run like the wind if he has no work order. Still run if he has a work order that says �fix dents and rust� as the repairs being done. RUN, I say. You need to have a fully detailed work order, not for legal reasons (wink, wink) but for your own records to show the wife where all the money went. The �wife� is a great way to get things done. You need to come look to see what is done because the wife wants to see. Bring her in there, she has an excuse, she knows nothing right? So you bring her in to see what magic this guy is doing to your car so she can understand why it costs so much. Bring a friend when you drop the car off, be sure he hears everything that is said. Let him or her help you make the decision on leaving it there. Sometimes YOU too can be looking through rose colored glasses. If someone else says they have a bad feeling, LISTEN to them.
There are few things that can compare with returning to a shop to find the place is locked tight and the mail is piling up on the floor where the carrier has dropped it through the slot. I have seen it, it really happens. The good news is it is rare, just take your time and find a shop where you feel comfortable.
Last edited by Centerline; 12-29-2007 at 07:32 PM. Reason: Other.
Marty, I was impressed the first time I saw this, but had to read it a second time to really feel the impact. You should move this to the Wiki section for all to see. Not only does your points tell a lot to a person looking to have work done, but it applies to all of us that are building in our garage, basement, barn or driveway. I think of the early days of just bungling along until the car was finished (put on the road?) and today when I have a Note book with daily plans, work entries along with part numbers, donner cars, sketches and pictures etc. Lessons learned through mistakes are dear lessons and are not often repeated by successful people.
Thanks again for the repost.
I have been trying to get rid of my rose colored glass for a long time. LOL ...Brian, I understand what u r saying totally. More people need to read that ...people from both sides of the fence. Another thing that is happening is the guy wanting one of us to work on his car has been watching to many episodes of overhauling or one of those build it in two minutes shows and they think it can be done that fast in real time. I had a habit of bidding the whole job ahead but now i go by the hour ...one task at a time. It works out so much better. Especially if you run into a rust bucket hiding under bondo after the old paint is striped off. I give a price to take it apart and strip the paint or what ever is there ,then after we go hour by hour. You never know what is there until it is in the raw. Of course the other problem is money ..most people here in my area still think you can do a car for 500 bucks..paint included! Just some thoughts,Tim
Today $500.00 bucks.HAHA That don't even buy good paint no more.LOL Brain and Tim You make a good point.
You know, I do "damage analysis" at the shop where I work. This is on late model collision damged cars. Adding EVERY SINGLE turn of the wrench on the repair order and GETTING PAID for it is my job. You can not believe how many jobs will go up an hour or two just 0.2 of an hour at a time on things we used to leave off, doing for nothing.
Restoration or custom work is no different. To bid a custom paint job that ends up changing from the flames going on the hood and the fenders to moving onto the door is going to change the time spent, the materials used, you MUST be paid for that or you will be out of business.
If you are doing restoration work and you find while doing a quarter patch panel that the inner wheel house needs a patch made to repair rust, you MUST be paid for it. It doesn't matter if that patch is tiny, if it will only take you 15 minutes, you MUST get paid for it or you will soon be doing it as a hobby and out of business.
Itemize EVERY SINGLE part removed, itemize EVERY SINGLE dent and ding on the panel, rust spot, seam sealer to remove, ect. You will find that you are giving away a LOT of money.
I run my shop and work by myself. I have room for 6 cars plus my spray booth. I however choose to do 1 customer vehicle at a time. My ragtop is the only "project vehicle in the shop and it is covered with plastic to keep the "layers of dust" off. I work on it on "my time" not business hours. If I need to take a day or part of a day off during the week...I work Saturday or Sunday to make up those hours. My customer's get a minimum of 40 hours per week from me, NO EXCEPTION. This week for example I was off for x-mas..so I worked a full 8 hours last Sunday. Today my Daughter is sick, so I will go in tonight after my wife gets home for 4 or 5 hours, and spend tomorrow there as well. All 3 phone numbers I can be reached at are given to my customers so I may be reached at any time, this is my choice and believe it or not, I rarely get calls at night. My shop gets swept EVERY night, after 5 on "my" time". (my tool room needs organizing though ) I also encourage customers to stop whenever they want, and have yet to have a complaint about a project going slow.
My customer's do change their minds, so I only call the waiting customers 2-3 days out to let them know when to deliver their vehicle. I have had some that do not want to wait, but I would rather not do theirs at all, than to have them ticked off for taking too long because I have too many cars torn down at the same time. This also minimizes chance of losing parts, or mixing them up with other vehicles. With the extra bays I can have every panel on a table at one time spread out with plenty of room to work. I realize the majority do not have this luxury....but my only overhead is the electric and water. My shop is leased for 10 years at 1 dollar per year.(Thanks to my father not needing the building) Brian I took no offense to anything you said, it was excellent advice..... I was just voicing my approach and dedication to my shop and my customer's satisfaction.
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Your next post actually contradicts this post. In the one post you write that shops should know what it will cost. You tell them to negotiate the cost & get them to do it piece by piece. Your example was $200 for a predetermined amount of work.
Now you write they should be paid for the "extras" that come up.
Do not mean to get down on you too hard but a guy who comes into my shop & says he wants to spend $200 or so per week in my shop as you recommended, is not a customer. I do not know about overhead in other areas of North America but in my area, the overhead is $7+ per square foot per month by the time you figure in electricity, heat, phone, fax, office staff, etc. Just for fun lets do some math, 13 feet X 25 feet (room for a car to be parked with room to work around it, not allowing room for tools) equals 325 square feet or space taken. Multiply 325sq ft by $7 per square foot & it equals $2275 per month for a vehicle parked in the shop. Divide that by 4 weeks (4 is for easy math. This is without calculating out stat holidays & such) & you get $568.75 of hard costs per week. Now you need to add the hourly rate you are paying the body guy, mechanic, technician or etc. In my area their wage is normally around $25/hour. They actually cost you $36.50 per hour due to holiday time, Stat Holidays, sick time, employment benefits, etc. Take the $568.75 of hard costs & divide it by 40 hours/week. That equals $14.22/hour & add the cost of an employee at $36.50 & you get & $50.72 per hour of actual payout to keep the doors open. A shop would need to charge out at $65 to $70/hour to cover themselves for things such as tool breakdown or wear, shop improvements or upkeep & a myriad of other like business license, insurances, unforeseen things like a customer stiffing them for money & not getting paid or being unrightfully sued (ask any shop owner or other businessmen, it does happen). You see when you said the customer should spend $200 in a week, you are saying, have them do about 2.5 hours of work in that week. For the total we came up with we still need to add in the material, welding gas & wire, fillers, etc. Take the weekly overhead of the shop (568.75) & add 2.5 hours of labor at $65/hour & you get $731.25. If you now take the $731.25 & subtract the $200 that the customer (according to your post) did you a favor with, you have just lost $531.25 in 1 week. I could easily see a shop going under if they allowed people who follow that type of advice into their shop to get work done. Wow, to think you were the one who said most shop owners are poor businessmen.
At the end of your last post you said the owner should itemize every dent, rust spot, seam sealer, etc & he will find you are giving away a LOT of money. Which one is it? Are most shop owners crooks or possibly murderers or are they giving away a LOT of money?
Enough said.
As I said earlier Brian, I do like a few of your comments, but only a few. Sorry
On all big jobs in my shop, a customer spends a minimum of $2500 per week or we can not even take the job in because we would loose money on it. If a job is smaller than that, it comes in, the job gets done & must be removed right away. If a customer can not play by those rules, he/she can not have us do the job & must go elsewhere. The customer pays up front for all work. If he/she has overpaid, he/she gets a refund. We have seen too many shops get screwed for us to take that chance.
To the rest of you hotrodders, sorry for barking. It is not my norm to bark but I have been watching this post & it seems to me that it has had a bunch of lashing out at custom shops in general. Horror stories & a bunch of horrible advise has been given that will guarantee you a bad experience in any shop. If a shop owner where to put a post up of how bad a customer can be, there would be just as many horror stories in it. Most people would have asked to have it removed from this site by now.
All in all, most shops will treat you with respect & give you a good deal. Make sure to do your homework on the shop & you will do fine.
LS-57 (if that IS your real name), I have been in HUNDREDS of shops and the simple math that you laid out is simply not what most restoration shop owners understand. Is that "knocking" every restoration shop owner, not unless you are missy sensitive Nelly. I have been in MANY, MANY restoration shops that fit all the bad traits I laid out, are you saying I never really saw them? I WAS ONE OF THEM!! If you don't fit into that catagory, I am happy for you. But you must have not been around many others!
I have also been in a number of them that are not like I describe, so what is your point?
Yes, there are plenty of customer horror stories. And you know what, MOST of the time it is related to the shop owner not doing HIS business! I have seen it, I have heard it, I have witnessed it PERSONALLY. Say for instance the customer horror story that I am sure you have heard many times about the customer who complained that the color his car was painted was not what he "expected"? The owner of the shop will stand around the paint store water cooler complaining with his fellow shop owners about that one! But never did the shop owner spray out the color on to a test panel and have the customer sign it. THAT would have cured that little problem.
On the $200 a week, I am glad you have all those high dollar jobs, not all guys can spend a months pay a week on his car. Most are spending a little extra overtime money. If you can't accommodate them, that is fine it is your business. The $200 a week was more of an example anyway. That number is going to be different for everyone. Some shops would be fine with it, others not.
And if you don't get paid for what you do, YOU ARE NOT A GOOD BUSINESSMAN. I am not saying lie to the customer to get them in the door and then pump it up. I am simply saying that YOU GET PAID FOR WHAT YOU DO. If you find more rust on a car you are working on, you don't tell the customer and get paid for it? You are kidding me right?
"Inexperiance", yeah sure to some extent. But there are things that are impossible to know. If you are soooooooo good at all this than you shouldn't be taking what I said so personal. You should be nodding you head in agreement.
On the giving away of services, that is my advice, don't do it. That is bad business, how could that be confusing? Most restoration shops DO give stuff away, THAT is not a good thing for the customer. They loose money on the job AND keep it forever.
You need to read it again without your black colored glasses and you may see that it is not all gloom and doom and calling shop owners murderers.
I am sorry it didn't make your top ten list this year.
You know what just hit me? LS (if I can call you that), you may have not liked my article but you actually complemented my business practices. It seems I was not half as screwed up as I thought I was when I had my shop. Who would have known.
LS-57 your numbers and "shop theory" is sound, and the way things SHOULD be; but this is the real world of custom work. In that world, I would wager that 95-percent of the time Brian put the dart in the bullseye. I'll admit it, he located me, served me, tried me, and convicted me, in it!!! I had a really, really, rough year (personal tragedies and business failures) and that write-up basically summed up the conclusion I had already come to about my own life; and what went wrong with it.
I am the STARVING artist, the dreamer, the skillful one who discarded all manner of sound business practice. The sad part is I knew better! Before I ever opened the doors of my own business I was schooled by my (formally trained) older brother in our family restaurant/bar business. I knew how to put it all on paper just lke LS-57 described and make the day-to-day decisions and activities line up to that plan - BUT I DIDN'T DO IT!!! I was "star struck" by the raw possibility of every opportunity that came my way. They all left late, money was always an issue, I have had more than my fair share of disgruntled customers, and I am on the verge of making some MAJOR changes that will have me doing something different on a daily basis to put the bread on the table.
The key to Brian's whole article to me is that for the typical shop owner he speaks of, it is more of an art than a business. Art is subjective. Good art is the product of passion. Principles are solid and stable, but passion is not always the best foundation to build upon.
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I don't think the 'hands-on' community of HotRodding really needs a Bible on how to avoid seedy body shops.
There is no way the shops you described would stay in business for too long.
I found that 95% of my friends take their cars and trucks to shops that have good word-of-mouth advertising. Not too many burns in the circle , either.
This thread was started by someone who gave 20 grand to a "car builder" and got stuck in the backside for it. Not someone looking to avoid bad businesses( like your old one )
If I ran my advertising business , or my construction endeavor like you describe , where people should " expect much less " than what I describe , then who would want me to work for them ?
If more people just used common sense , the world would be a better place for it.
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You know 79C10 (if that really is your name), you may complain about how much I posted, but you read it! The problem is, you didn't pass the Eveln Woods Speed reading course and you miss concepts.
When the entire article is targeting the customer, not the shop owner. In reference to "expect much less" that is for the customer going to your advertising business (it still makes me chuckle that you think that all your slogans are "honest" it's the rest of the ad that is deceitful. ). As for how YOU should treat your customer, I have a simple formula for that "Give them MORE than they expected, for less money when possible".
Now, I am going to get LS-57 saying "You want to charge for every little thing but you want to give them "more than they expected for less money"? HUH???? I know that is coming.
No, that is where the experiance you mentioned comes in. You give an honest bid, with a VERY itemized work order counting every single 0.2 of an hour. You do this work and if you did your homework you will do it for less time than your estimated, putting your GP on labor at a place that you can discount it a few bucks upon delivery....thus giving them the job for less money than they expected.
So you see 79, you too are looking thru those same black colored glasses as LS. You find fault in everything I write, you take things personal and you miss the main point of the whole thing.
Does this article perfectly fit the "car builder stole my money"? That is up to debate, I thought it did, if you don't, I am sorry.
A year ago I might have had a problem with Brian's write-up as well, but hitting bottom has a way of pulling the scales off your eyes and letting you see things you never saw before. If you don't see yourself in that write-up it's either because it doesn't apply to you (because you have your act together), or you aren't at the point where you can see yourself yet. Either way just put it in your back pocket and keep on stepping.
If you're really good at the business end of what you do, and it never applies to you, you might meet someone one day who can use that advice and pass it on. Because your venture or projects work as planned it's insight into why someone else's might not be - that you wouldn't have seen from your perspective.
If you find yourself on the losing end of the stick (either as a customer or shop owner) and still don't see yourself in his write-up, just hang onto it - it may come in handy one day. Ironically, I have even shared some of main points he made with other struggling shop owners over the years but couldn't "see" that I was in the same boat with them.
Why bicker over it? If you disagree with it, maybe it just isn't for you, but you can't say it's invalid. I am telling you from firsthand experience that his write-up is dead on, for certain people. For the original poster in this thread, it could have saved him a LOT of headaches.
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Well it seems as if I ruffled the features of Martinsr. Not my intention but it was expected. You see Martin, I don't think you have changed from what you were when you owned your shop. You are now on the other side of the fence doing the same thing but now it is to the shops you are surrounded by. You yourself mention in your response that you go to hundreds of shops that are the way you described yourself to be in the past. Wow, is that realistic?
When I called you on a few of your inconsistencies and poor recommendations, you lashed out at me. Now 79C10 disagrees with you & you do the same to him, check out your response.
I am not "missy sensitive Nelly" as you suggest but I wonder if you are. Take a hard look at your responses to the posts when someone doesn't agree with you. The first thing that happens is they get verbally spanked . It is OK to not agree with me or others but you should remain respectful
Now to redirect you to what I said yesterday to help you understand it. You recommend that customers have a shop give a big estimate then break down the job into bite size pieces. The shop is now estimating the job as if they will do all the work at the same time. Then you recommend that the customer gives it to the shop a piece at a time. That is deceitful. A shop estimates a job based on the car being in the shop & doing one job after the other & in many cases a few things at the same time making it a bit more efficient. The roll of the shop is to give the best value to a customer as possible. If we are applying filler for example to one area of the car, it only makes sense to apply it to more areas that one, it makes it more efficient & saves the customer money & thus giving a better value. If we are priming a car, most of it gets done at the same time, again in keeping with giving the customer a better value. To break it down into small jobs cost much more than to do it all at the same time. If a shop estimates a bunch of work but does it a piece at a time, the estimate can not be followed. It is also the shops responsibility to explain this to the customer if they choose to do it that way. It is the only way a shop can make enough money to be around for when the customer wants to have more work done or in the event of a warranty issue. Yes Martin, there are many honest shops who give a warranty & honor it aswell.
In your reply to me you mentioned the size of the jobs in my shop. I am sorry but you misunderstood what I was saying. Check the math again & you will see that what I was saying is that the example is what it takes to stay in business not to show the size of any job. That is irrelevant to this discussion. This is in any business not just the custom car business. We market ourselves as easy going guys that happen to be car nuts, much the same as the customer is. If a big job comes in that is great but if a small job comes in, we still need to pay the bills. That is why the example was given.
For a guy who throws accusations of others being "poor businessmen & ......." you should be able to understand that on my first attempt, especially being a writer.
So you see my friend, you don't have to agree with me, that is OK. You should on the other hand not give poor advise to unsuspecting customers.
Please do not misunderstand this is not about a "missy sensitive Nelly" but rather the showing of facts. If you think that "hundreds of shops you go to" do not have the business sense to stay in business or whatever it is you are trying to say, than leave this post as it is. My response shows the other side of the story, the business end of it. It does not need to be lashed out against or made fun of. It was intended to help customers realize why it is that some shops do not survive. You see my friend we can agree on some things & be on the same page, even if we do not agree on all details.
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