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cantaccept posted 10/24/2013 07:26 AM
H and I were talking this morning. I asked if he had remembered to call for his IC this week, he usually goes on Fridays. New to this IC, he is our MC and h has just started seeing him for IC, maybe 3 times?
Anyway, he replied that he had decided not to go this week, he was too busy at work.
In my head I understand. In my gut it was a shot.
I tried to explain this conflict in myself to him. I realized that I have been closely watching his every action, looking for the positive actions and noting the inaction. I realized how when he does what I have asked for "he scores points", and when he doesn't it makes me question his commitment.
He became upset, "why can't you just say, thank you for planning for next week, I understand that you are working hard".
I tried to explain that I was just realizing how closely that I monitor his every action. I also said to him, "this sounds so harsh".
I was trying to let him know how I think now. If I don't tell him, how can he know? He could be thinking everything is fine and I am boiling inside. I don't think that would be honest or fair of me.
My intention was not to hurt him but to help him understand, let him know what happens inside me. If he doesn't know he could do things to hurt me and not even realize it.
He was upset with me. Told me that there are two people here and it isn't always about me and my pain. That he beats himself up enough without me beating him up. He told me that I think too much and not everything has to be a big emotional event.
I tried to explain that I was not just talking about the cancelled appointment. I was relating or trying to, that everytime he doesn't follow through, it makes me question his commitment. He said that makes him feel as if he doesn't follow through we will not make it. Unfortunately that is true.
I tried to explain the conflict between the rational thought in my head and the gut reaction. Not just about one appointment but about everything. I tried to explain that I was just recognizing how closely I observe his every action. It was actually a revelation to me, to realize how closely I was watching and using it to guage his commitment.
He wouldn't really hear me out. He wouldn't allow me to try to finish my thoughts to him.
I did not want to cause him to feel bad or feel guilt. Every time I would try to tell him I do appreciate what you do and that you are working a lot and that you are planning on making an appointment for next week.
I think maybe in a "normal" situation I would have over reacted to a missed appointment or any other small deviation from expectations.
It's just that now, at this time, everything means so much. I try to look at the big picture, not focus on the details. I was just trying to let him know that this happens in my gut, automatically, that in my head I understand but in my heart I panic.
I didn't get angry or say mean things to him. I told him I understand but I don't like it and when you make these decisions to please talk to me about it before you come to your decision.
Then I started realizing how it makes me feel as opposed to how I think. What automatic responses I have.
He said he doesn't need to hear it.
I just feel it is important to express these thought processes to each other. I wish he would tell me more of his.
Okay done with repetition, need to go to work. Just had to get this out or I would stew all day.
Any opinions? Was I too harsh? Did I tell him things that he doesn't need to hear from me? Could I have expressed it in a kinder way?
thanks for listening
LA44 posted 10/24/2013 07:53 AM
Were you too harsh? Maybe on yourself! I don't get the sense that you were screaming or demeaning him over this issue. Let me quote some things your H said:
Anyway, he replied that he had decided not to go this week, he was too busy at work.
He decided w/o speaking to you first. Perhaps he could have said, "hey cantaccept, I am swamped at work this week and would like to book my IC for early next week. Will that work for you?" Would that have worked for you?
He became upset, "why can't you just say, thank you for planning for next week, I understand that you are working hard".
Thank him for what? Did he actually make next week's appointment or he is planning too? There is a diff. Why would you thank him? Going to IC is a MUST - a high cost behavior that you need to see in order to R.
Yes. WS needs to be recognized for the things they are doing well - and you did that very well last week when you poured your heart out and he responded with love and remorse. But this? He is asking you to thank him for planning on making an appt. for next week?
He was upset with me. Told me that there are two people here and it isn't always about me and my pain. That he beats himself up enough without me beating him up. He told me that I think too much and not everything has to be a big emotional event.
Actually. It is about you. It is about you and your ability to heal and when he makes selfish "poor me" statements that try to diminish what he has done that caused so much pain it hurts your R.
He wouldn't really hear me out. He wouldn't allow me to try to finish my thoughts to him.
This is not remorseful behavior, cantaccept.
Your H needs to get back to IC.
I hope you find some good today in the day - go for a walk, talk to a friendly co worker, have a cup of tea. You are a good person and you don't deserve to be spoken to this way. IMO, your H owes you another apology.
[This message edited by LA44 at 7:54 AM, October 24th (Thursday)]
heartache101 posted 10/24/2013 08:07 AM
What I have learned.
Men dont want to hear negative they dont want to.
I write everything down that bothers me. Make a list and try to reword to not I want or such. I also try to pick the most important message. He might do 30 things wrong but what is 1 of those I have to have changed.
Otherwise smile oh honey I know you work so hard to privide our lovely home. I understand you dont have time to work on our marriage and making US whole again. Make sure you smile say it with an upbeat voice. Do not cry do not say it condenscending. He will get it without saying anything else. If not well he needs alot if MC!
Give him a big ole ATA BOY hug goodbye kiss whatever. Sure you are steaming they dont care they are tired of them being wrong of them not being able to make the right choices etc give him choices I know I know just like children
MrsDoubtfire posted 10/24/2013 08:07 AM
I don't think you were harsh at all.
You say you tried to explain to your FWH why you feel like you do and it sounds like he shot you down!!
He got angry; he said he feels like you are watching his every action (heck-yes!!) then hewas upset with you and then he wouldn't hear you out?
I am sorry but all of these things so early on show how much he NEEDS IC!
In my own situation my FWH put IC above and before his work. That meant so much to me as before all this it used to be him- his job- his sports- then the family
He would not have dreamed of cancelling a session as he knew how important it was for him as an individual but also how important it was to remain M to me!!
If he was so bogged down with work then the answer would have been to (1) Rearrange his work schedule or (2) Discuss it with you first.
Him making unilateral decisions so early on? Wayward thinking still.
I hope he apologises and realises that by making a unilateral decision he has messed up. I suspect he already does which is why he tried so hard to slap you down and shut that discussion down so quickly.
Sorry if this sounds harsh- I don't mean it to be. I just wish our spouses would "get it" a bit sooner sometimes... as that makes R easier and leads to a happier spouse
cantaccept posted 10/24/2013 08:47 AM
Thanks all for the responses.
I was wondering if it was or is his guilt that makes him respond this way.
I was never this way before, questioning everything, looking for proof of commitment. Sometimes it shocks me how much I have changed. I don't like this suspicious, judgemental side of the new me.
Maybe that is what I needed him to see. These changes in me aren't necessarily what I want, what I choose, they just are.
Some changes are positive, some are not. I hope with time and consistency from him I will relax and not have this suspicious brain.
I don't like this part of me but I suppose it is only natural at this time. I am trying to love and trust the man that threw me away for another. I am looking for proof that the love and commitment are real. If I wasn't questioning that would probably not be very healthy for me.
These new ways of thinking are just the consequences to his actions. The actions that I had no choice in, the actions that I have to recover from that I did not cause.
These are part of the consequences for him too. He is feeling the consequences from his actions. Simply cause and effect.
I think that if he can see and accept that this is just how it is now it might be easier for both of us.
tushnurse posted 10/24/2013 09:13 AM
Too Harsh, Hardly. He sounds like he was having a self made pity party, and then you joined in, pointing out the reasons he should have had one in the first place. Yah he is getting to the core issue, and it sucks, and makes him feel lousy about himself, hisM, his life. But NONE of that is your fault, and for him to blame you, make you feel bad for saying what you are feeling, and calling him out when he is avoiding is unacceptable.
You need to have a serious discussion about this at MC. He needs to understand that he will feel bad, and should, and that is not your fault, and that your trust, was completely broken by him. It is now his job to step up to the plate, and own it, and do the real work on himself, so he understands, and fixes what is broken in him. Until that happens your M will not be repaired.
You were perfectly fine letting him know what it made you feel, and why. If he can't hear it, or won't accept that then he doesn't get it.
((((and strength))))
Rebreather posted 10/24/2013 09:41 AM
This was nothing more than your basic unremorseful reaction. He got angry, got defensive and pushed it all back on you. It is his way of getting you to back off and shut up. He makes you doubt yourself and your rights in the relationship. And it works. Now you aren't liking this new version of yourself (the one that stands up for yourself) and doubting.
He should have clearly communicated this change to you. Period. He is in the wrong. Not you.
cantaccept posted 10/24/2013 10:41 AM
This is why SI is so important to me.
I am really fighting so hard to stand up for myself, yes the new version of me. It feels uncomfortable, it sometimes feels selfish, it sometimes just feels plain wrong.
I felt like I was doing the right thing for me, for us, being honest and open. That is necessary, essential.
I felt that I was not being mean or trying to guilt him. I wondered though, am I being too harsh, is it too much. These thoughts creep in, this change is so new. One of the things I worry about is going too far to the other extreme. Being too demanding, expecting too much, being insensitive.
Yes, I think the feelings of guilt and anger were because he was experiencing the consequences. These are just the consequences to his actions. I did not cause he consequences. His actions have caused these changes in me. Some good, some bad. His actions now determine how good or bad my response is now for him.
I control me, I control my actions and responses. If I feel that he is doing everything that I need, going above and beyond to prove his commitment, to disprove his prior statements to me, which he had no problem stating with such clarity by his actions, choosing another woman, abandoning me, then I will be able, will allow myself to respond in a loving and trusting way. In short I think I need him to earn my forgiveness, to earn my loving expressions. I do love him, but at this time, I do not trust him to follow through, I do not feel that total commitment.
I keep coming back to the thought, "if you really loved me, if you really wanted me back more than anything, if you truly felt remorseful, you would do anything, even if it made you uncomfortable, even if it made you feel hurt, because you would be able to see that for a time you need to put me above you, you need to make me feel like I am the priority in your life, you need to try your best to undo some of the damage that your choices caused".
heforgotme posted 10/24/2013 10:43 AM
No. People MAKE time for what is important to them.
A person who could make time for all the machinations surrounding an A, can certainly make time for IC.
cantaccept posted 10/24/2013 12:14 PM
That is how I feel, if it were really important he would make the time.
Choose to read over tv.
Figure out ahead of time that a morning appointment with IC won't work but a 7pm would.
There are ways to do the things that are really important. If it is important it is your first priority.
It seems that if he talks to me that is him putting in his time.
That is how all this makes me feel he is doing this to keep me quiet. He isn't doing it because it is important to him. Some of it is but not all.
I feel like if he really understood, accepted how hard this is for me, how much I have to struggle because of what he did, accepted the responsibility and cared about me, he would do whatever it took as soon as possible and not make me feel one more day of pain than is necessary. If I hurt him and I knew what I could do to ease that burden, I wouldn't be able to do it fast enough.
sisoon posted 10/24/2013 12:35 PM
He needs to commit himself to IC for it to be effective. If it's something to do only when it's convenient, change will be very difficult and maybe impossible.
He can probably make appointments very easily - just set up a standing appointment with his IC - same time, same place, same attendees, every week. Set up a recurring meeting in his calendar, including travel time. Piece of cake. All it takes is 5 minutes out of one session, unless his IC's schedule is so effed up he doesn't have a standard opening every week.
I understand the difficulty of committing to IC, but it's essential - unless he's not really committed to R.
cantaccept posted 10/24/2013 13:54 PM
He has a standing appointment for Friday at 8am. He only needs to confirm it on Monday at MC. This past Monday we were talking till the very last moment and it was forgotten.
A phone call or text would have taken care of it.
Apparently he decided two days ago to not go this week.
He didn't tell me until this morning. That tells me he knew it would not sit well with me so he avoided it until I asked.
[This message edited by cantaccept at 2:04 PM, October 24th (Thursday)]
painfulpast posted 10/24/2013 14:19 PM
These are part of the consequences for him too. He is feeling the consequences from his actions. Simply cause and effect.
Respectfully - that isn't what he is feeling. He is feeling like he is being treated like a child, and he is.
I know - I'm completely in the minority here. That's ok. Please hear me out:
Your husband cheated. Mine cheated. Did they lose trust? Yes. Do they need to show remorse and make sure that we see that in their actions and their words? Yes. Do we now own them and they became children that need to discuss every action with us because we were wronged? No.
I'm sorry - I'm not meaning to be insulting so I hope no one is taking it this way. Yes, you should express your feelings, but perhaps not the second you have them? It's been a year. Is he ever given the benefit of the doubt? Has he, other than missing one IC appointment, given you reason to doubt his remorsefulness?
Yes, everyone here told you that you did the right thing - that he isn't remorseful - that he's lucky he's even still married. Really? This is a grown man we are discussing. He didn't keep one appointment.
Yes - some husbands make this the center of their world. Your H isn't. He is trying his best but his life did not become about him cheating. He doesn't want your life to become that, and it sounds like it has.
One thing we BSs learn right away is that it is ALL ABOUT US. We need to heal. We need to see remorse. We need whatever the hell we decide that day. And yes, we do need all that - but not for life. At some point, a WS will push back if they feel that there is no end to this. And they should, because at some point it is no longer consequences to actions - it is the new marriage, and it isn't good for either party. At some point, we have to begin behaving more 'normal'. We have to stop expressing every little item that makes us feel slighted, or unloved, or even uneasy.
Now, if your H was at a strip club? You bet your ass - you do what you need to do. But he canceled an appointment without checking first. He wants a wife, not a mother.
If we behave like a JFO BS forever, eventually the WS will leave. Harsh, I know, but no one wants to live under the shadow of the worst thing they ever did forever.
I know - it's only a year, and healing takes 2 to 5. I understand, I'm still working on it myself. But at a year, shouldn't some progress be made? Shouldn't the WS be a little more trustworthy? Shouldn't they get to behave like an adult, and not an adulterer?
I know - I'm wrong by many standards here. We are all very used to just saying the BS is wrong, and we were hurt, so they need to do what we need. Well, is discussing an appointment really a need to heal, or do you just like being a little in control of every aspect of his life?
Not trying to be harsh on anyone. Just hopefully someone will see a little of what I'm saying and try to get out of the "I'm a BS" mode 24/7 and maybe just be a "S" some of the time.
boots5050 posted 10/24/2013 14:33 PM
[This message edited by boots5050 at 2:36 PM, October 24th (Thursday)]
Rebreather posted 10/24/2013 14:38 PM
Paifulpast, I think you are not familiar with cantaccpet's story. She is fighting a very unremorseful spouse, who only recently started IC. She's been through the wringer. And he still doesn't get it.
painfulpast posted 10/24/2013 14:40 PM
You are right - I posted based on a remorseful spouse that had been doing the work.
cantaccept - my post clearly does not fit your story. I apologize if I made you feel badly for dealing with a spouse that only now is making an effort.
Thank you rebreather.
Rebreather posted 10/24/2013 14:46 PM
*hat tip
cantaccept posted 10/24/2013 14:54 PM
Thank you for that PPP.
I saw the post and was logged out. I logged in quickly typed a long reply, submitted it and then realized that I had hit h's log in (he has it saved)
I deleted it because I didn't want anyone to think he had written it.
That he has not expressed much remorse was the point but of course not that succinctly. He even admits that he has not expressed this to me properly.
I want to open my heart to him. I want to forgive. I want to move past.
He needs to make a big effort.
I am trying so hard to be clear, honest and protect myself without hurting him.
painfulpast posted 10/24/2013 15:01 PM
He needs to make a big effort.
He does. Again, I'm so sorry. I honestly saw the dates and thought that it had been a year of a remorseful spouse. I took that from your post, although in hindsight don't ask me why.
No - if he's just starting to make you feel safe and believe that he is actually remorseful and willing to do the work, then his IC IS a big deal, and it wouldn't have taken much to ask you first, or should I say - discuss with you first - his workload and the possibility of missing an appointment.
I really feel badly that I said what I said in this post - your post. I very recently was discussing something very similar - I do need to be a little more familiar with the individual.
My DDay was nearly 3 years ago. I'm new here, but not to the infidelity thing, so sometimes I can get ahead of myself.
cantaccept, you seem really very sweet and forgiving, much more so than I am. I hope your husband 'gets it' a little more than he has to this point.
I hope I do as well. Again, apologies.
sisoon posted 10/24/2013 16:23 PM
I may be overly jaded as I write, so take this with a few grains of salt.
If he has to call to confirm 8 AM on Fridays, it's not a standing appointment.
I recommend changing his protocol - it's a full commitment unless he calls to cancel. And if he calls too late, he's on the hook to pay his C. Isn't that how most medical appointments work?
Among other things, he really ought to see IC as an investment in himself. He needs to do this for himself, not for you. If he's just going through the motions with IC, fire your H.
Since he's using his work to dodge IC, I urge you to adopt business metrics. Don't to settle for effort. Demand results.
He's an adult human being, not a little boy, and he's not a Victim. He can do what need to be done.
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Marshall with a kick designed to challenge the fullback, Minichiello seems to have it covered but gets an awkward bounce allowing Matt Utai to ghost in and go in for the opening TRY! Marshall from out wide, hooks it wide.
Wests Tigers 4-0
8 min: Roosters rewarded for keeping the ball alive on last.. shifting it from right to left, Aidan Guerra getting the unlikely kick away forcing a blocker to take a Rooster. Penalty Roosters.
10 min: TRY
The penalty produces points again. Roosters go close through early in the set with Wearea-Hargraves but he's held up. Later it's Frank Paul who shows the skills of a halfback to holding it up, just enough for Guerra to run into the hole and level things. Anasta makes no mistakes with the conversion.
Sydney Roosters 6-4
11 min: Piggyback penalty for the Roosters due to holding on too long in the tackle.
12 min: Adam Henry in his second game, keeps the ball alive getting the Roosters a six again call.
13 min: BANG! Good hit from Lawrence levels a Rooster. Next tackle, Peare puts through a kick which rebounds off a Tiger and into Lawrence's hands but he's offside. More pressure from the Roosters coming.
14 min: More football for the Roosters.. knocked down again by the Tigers.
16 min: TRY
The Tigers crack once again. Anthony Mitchell goes for a quick dart and finds Jared Wearea-Hargreaves charging onto the football, no one was going to stop him that close.. TRY! Anasta with the simple conversion, slots it again.
Sydney Roosters 12-4
17 min: This is concerning for the Tigers, Frank Paul surges through the line again. He left Adam Blair in his wake but also the football as well. Scrum Tigers.
20 min: Tigers fans are baying for a penalty and their calls are answered when Aiden Guerra hangs on too long.
21 min: Very aggressive defense here by the Roosters, Martin Kennedy nailing one of the Tigers. Tigers will get an extra set when a late strip call is made by the referee.
23 min: Marshall opts to run it on last tackle, throwing a cut-out to Tuiqiri who has no choice but to kick. He gets lucky with Moga knocking on. Scrum Tigers.
24 min: Offside is the call and here comes more pressure on the Roosters defensive line.
25 min: WHAT A PLAY! Ben Murdoch-Masila was through and no one was stopping him until Anthony Minichiello produces a remarkable one on one steal to rob the young man. Masila is still trying to put the ball down I believe.
27 min: A towering bomb by Benji Marshall is left for the Tigers to regather but the Roosters hold their line, Minichiello cleaning up the scraps of the second kick.
29 min: Pearce puts Moga away but he's rounded up and thrown into touch. Scrum Tigers.
30 min: Anything you can do, we can do better. From the scrum, the Tigers try a play but they also get introduced to the touchline.
33 min: It's been an entertaining opening half an hour, Roosters and Tigers both having a dig. Mitchell Pearce loses it in an attacking position for the Roosters.
35 min: An error by Masoe gifts the Tigers an attacking opportunity but Blair loses it.
36 min: He follows it with conceding a penalty.
VIDEO REFEREE: Boyd Cordner might have scored, checking if the ball is kicked from the offload.
38 min: TRY
A massive run from Frank Paul sets up an opportunistic TRY for the Roosters. Anthony Mitchell from the offload, see's it falling and gets his foot to the ball allowing Boyd Cordner to dive over for the Roosters third TRY. Anasta from right in front, nails it.
Sydney Roosters 18-4
40 min: TRY Dewsbury Rams (NL1)
That was well worked by the Roosters, offloads and charging runs is killing the Tigers. Pearce sends it inside to Cordner who is in the clear with only Moltzen to beat, he draws him and sends Anasta away for a hammer blow on the stroke of halftime. Anasta converts his own TRY.
Sydney Roosters 24-4
41 min: There is a huge mountain for the Tigers to climb, as they emerge for the second half. They'll get first use of the ball as the Roosters kick-off.. here we go!
45 min: Lovely ball movement from the Tigers but no result for them. Forward pass from Heighington to Tuiqiri.
50 min: The Roosters are doing a Tigers on the home side this afternoon, some lovely attacking passing here. They get an advantageous six again thanks to Henry.
52 min: TRY
Friend goes for a good dart, with both Tasi and Masoe in support. He throws the face ball to Tasi who strolls in untouched and add to the Tigers misery. Anasta makes it five from five.
Sydney Roosters 30-4
53 min: A rare knock on from the Roosters, Tigers will get an attacking set to try to stem the tide.
54 min: Roosters will have to withstand another set, after a Nuuausala forearm to the face of a downed Tiger.
55 min: Roosters are getting antsy here, putting hands and knees in the tackle. They have been spotted by the referee, so he blows another penalty.
57 min: TRY
Marshall takes a leaf from the Roosters playbook today, looking long but going short for Galloway to steam his way over to the delight of Phil Gould. Marshall converts quickly.
Sydney Roosters 30-10
58 min: Momentum is shifting here.. a bomb drops for the Tigers and Marshall toes it through for a dropout.
59 min: Dear, oh dear. Kennedy offside from the dropout, penalty.
60 min: Tigers are throwing the ball like a potato currently.. almost scoring it thrice in one play but somehow the Roosters survive.
62 min: TRY
This is what can happen when you don't score when momentum is in your corner. Jake Friend dummies and finds himself in open pasture, drawing Moltzen and sending Pearce away to quell the Tigers rebellion. Anasta makes it six from six.
Sydney Roosters 36-10
63 min: High tackle on Wearea-Hargreaves by Blair, penalty.
65 min: TRY
Roosters on the attack.. Pearce kicks for his wingers on the left side but it only goes to Utai who is away from the quick and legal 20 metre tap. Next tackle, Ryan is away and no one will catch him! Marshall converts.
Sydney Roosters 36-16
68 min: What a manic passage of play.. TWICE the Tigers were away but the person with the ball doesn't use his support. Roosters claim the kick on last, Anasta is away but throws a pass.. straight to the TIGERS!
69 min: TRY
Tim Moltzen goes all by himself, spotting a gap, stepping and powers over for a TRY! Marshall quickly converts and we might have a grandstand finish in the offing.
Sydney Roosters 36-22
72 min: TRY
It's last tackle.. you've gotta get it away an the Tigers do. Every pass sticks and Lawrence is over in the corner. Marshall is picture perfect from the sideline and there is eight points in it.
Sydney Roosters 36-28
74 min: Huge bomb from Marshall, knocked on from the Roosters. SIX MORE!
75 min: Last tackle, Moltzen goes himself and is through.. HELD UP. Changeover.
76 min: Knock on by the Roosters. Here come the Tigers again.
77 min: KNOCK ON ADAM BLAIR. Roosters should hold on from here.
79 min: Iosefa tries another short pass from dummy half but he only finds Cordner who is away!
79 min: TRY
A fitting way to end an entertaining contest. Mitchell Pearce throws it inside to Kennedy who shrugs off one and scores his second TRY of his career. Anasta makes it seven from seven on the afternoon and everyone needs a lie down.
Sydney Roosters 42-28
80 min: A short kick-off from Marshall doesn't go the distance and Guerra takes the necessary hit-up. FULLTIME!


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Way back year 2005, Harald and Nimfa Bjorkum had their vacation in Coco Beach Island Resort and for the second time around the couple came along with their three sons Bjorn Espen, Harald Jr. and Haakon Isagani, daughters Agate & Kine and grandchildren.
The couple loves Coco Beach as they call it a small paradise surrounded with different trees and mountains. They occupied one of the cottages in the Sunset area. Sitting on their balcony looking at the nice sea view, watching the birds flying around and palm trees swaying is truly relaxing.
Harald and Nimfa's wedding anniversary dinner at the beach
It was here also where Harald and Nimfa celebrated their 30th wedding anniversary. On that evening, their children surprised them with Romantic Dinner at the Beach. They were so happy by the sweet gesture and amazed at how the dinner set–up at the beach.
During their stay, the family went on a free boat ride and snorkeling tour. One thing they would never miss is the Happy Hour every 4pm to 5pm to have their favorite Weng Weng. They love the food and were satisfied with the service rendered by the staff through out their stay.
To Bjorkum Family, thank you very much and it is a great pleasure having you here.
July 24, 2012 when the Service Boys had their outing at Bulabod Beach accompanied by Elian and Ronnie as the facilitator of the games. Service boys are members of the Service Family who help them clean and attend to the guests needs. You can see them carrying guest luggage's to their assigned room. Assist the service Mamas in making–up your bed and cleaning up the room.
During their outing they were divided into two teams, Chick Boyz and Cheap Boyz. They enjoyed the beach relay, tug of–war and beach volleyball games.
Cheap Boyz won the beach volleyball and tug-of–war. They received one thousand pesos as winning prize while the Chick Boyz got five hundred pesos. As seen to their faces, they were all happy and had fun in the outing.
The 7th New Moon Party was held last July 18, 2012 and joined by around 50 guests including walk-ins from other resorts nearby. Everyone had a great time drinking, partying and dancing until past mid night.
Aside from Iraya Band who played more reggae music another band named Coupon Band performed that night. Marvin Manalo-vocalist, Anton Dapitan- Guitar, Vanie Binay – bass guitar and Mar Caguete-drummer are members of the said band for 6 years now. They mostly played variety music. Jayara Escueta and his sister Danica Gonzales of Art Tactics showcased their extra ordinary talent and gave the crowd a blazing performance.
Those who missed this party see you on the next New Moon Party on August 17, 2012 and join us for another great and fun evening.
All the Service Mamas headed by Angie together with Lalay, Emma, Evelyn, Cherry, Rosalie, Anna, Maribel, Joy, Delia, Gloria and Estella had their outing in Calapan last July 4, 2012. Calapan is the capital city of Oriental Mindoro.
Service mama's jump shot
Coco Beach's in-house nurses Glaiza & Christine and one of the guests Sabine von Stamm also joined the outing. This was a great bonding moment for all the Mamas, to relax and have some fun after a long busy season. Everyone enjoyed the food that each of them brought for lunch while in their whole afternoon was spent on karaoke singing and parlor games.
Mama Ana singing diva
In the absence of the Service Mamas all the work was left to the hands of the Papas. And they are not complaining as they will also have their own picnic after service mamas.
Vinther - Hoj Family spends eleven days at Coco Beach Island Resort. Carsten and Lisbeth with their two sons Lucas and Christoffer is a family of adventurer and thrill seekers. No doubt that they booked a whole week of action-packed activities prior to their arrival at Coco Beach.
These action-packed activities includes hiking up Mt. Baclayan with mountain guide Edwin, exploring other beautiful places in Puerto Galera via Hummer jeep, snorkeling & fishing where they enjoyed having a close encounter with wonderful underwater creatures, visiting & playing Golf at Ponderosa Golf Club, Paintball and a thrilling driving experience with off-road buggies.
At Coco Beach they had a double birthday celebrations. On July 08, Carsten celebrated his 60th birthday. His two sons surprised him with the help of their service family Emma & Eugene by serving breakfast at their balcony. On the evening the family enjoyed a great dinner at the Doña Lina Revolving Restaurant. A surprise birthday cake was served to Carsten while the Coco Band serenaded him with Happy Birthday song. The next day July 09, Lucas celebrated his 24th birthday. Again the family had breakfast at their balcony while enjoying the view.
It was an amazing and unforgettable vacation. Staff were helpful and friendly, nice place and we had so much fun here. - Vinther Hoj Family
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Take Me To The Bridge
Isn't this just a fantastic photo? I did a little sleuthing to figure out just what bridge is under construction, and I have it narrowed down to the George Washington and the Mid-Hudson. I can't decide - perhaps there's someone out there who can tell us for sure.
Found in "O'Malley of Shanganagh" by Donn Byrne. Published by The Century Co., 1925.
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- Robert Zimmermann said...
I'm not great with stuff like this, but I just stared at many Google images of both bridges. I'm going to say it's the GW due to the landscape on the left bank. I wasn't getting too many similar angled pictures, but it looks closer to the way the land is shaped on what I'm taking to be the Jersey side of the GW.
I tried looking up the Hudson River Night Line because I saw it on that sign, but wasn't getting much help. I thought maybe if I could find something good on that, they'd tell me if they had stops at one or both bridges, or something like that.
Hope I'm right :)
- August 27, 2013 at 10:49 AM
- Lioness said...
The Mid-Hudson seems to have it's towers out in the water and this one doesn't. See http://www.nysba.ny.gov/Index%20Page/MHBPhotoArchive.html
In particular, 11 rows down, 2nd from right.
- August 27, 2013 at 11:00 AM
- Lioness said...
Yes, judging by this picture with the white structure behind the tower holding the cables, and the fact that the tower is on land, I would say it is The GW bridge.
- August 27, 2013 at 11:08 AM
- Crito said...
I got absorbed in this mystery puzzle too (via Alex Belth's reblog at Bronx Banter.)
The problem with the GW theory is that the book was published in 1925, and the George Washington Bridge didn't even break ground until 1927!
Could the book publication date be wrong? There was definitely a Hudson River Night Line running from the upper west side of Manhattan, says here.
- August 28, 2013 at 1:46 PM
- Michael Popek said...
Crito, in my experience the date of the book doesn't matter at all. The may have bought the book in a secondhand shop ten years after it was published - I once found a Bernie Williams card in an old Dickens book from the 1800s
- August 28, 2013 at 2:07 PM
- Crito said...
Oh, what a dummy. Paying no attention at all to the name of your blog(!!!), I thought you meant the picture was published in the book.
Another Bronx Banterer pointed out that if it were the Mid-Hudson, the Poughkeepsie Railroad Bridge would be visible in the background, so that confirms the GW identification.
- August 28, 2013 at 2:11 PM


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High Performance querying: With JPA Security your access control is performed in the database. You may query the database for all objects of a certain type and will get only the objects you have read access for. This filtering occurs in the database. Unaccessible queried objects will not be loaded into memory.
Access Control via Configuration: JPA Security enables you to completely remove security-related code from your code-base. All access control may be configured via Annotations or XML.
Support for role-based access control, access control lists (ACLs) and domain-driven access control: With JPA Security you do not have to change your access control paradigm (but maybe you want to, when you see the great capability of JPA Security). You even can mix access control paradigms easily.
Integration for Java EE Security and other frameworks: JPA Security is not designed to replace current security solutions, but to extend them. It integrates smoothly into the security mechanisms of the Java EE Platform, but may be used with third-party frameworks like Spring Security or in Java SE, too.
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The radio stations in Grand Theft Auto III are a huge expansion over the radio stations of its predecessor, Grand Theft Auto 2. Like GTA 2, radio stations can only be heard while in a vehicle. Most radio stations play a mixture of music, DJ chat, and spoof advertising. GTA III includes different genres of music and introduces a talk show radio. In law enforcement vehicles basic radio cannot be heard but police chatter can be heard instead.
Although many of the songs that appear in the game were written specially for the soundtrack (or in some cases for the soundtracks of previous games in the series), a large number of tracks were contributions by real artists. Craig Conner and Stuart Ross created the original tracks, often with vocals and performances by other musicians. It is worth noting that virtually none of the contributing real artists were particularly well-known at the time, and appearing on such a popular video game was no doubt greatly advantageous to their careers.
The player can listen to the following radio stations:
- Head Radio - Pop Rock, Adult Contemporary
- Double Clef FM - Classical
- K-Jah - Reggae, Dub
- Rise FM - Trance, Rave, Dance
- Lips 106 - Pop
- Game FM - Hip Hop/Rap, Gangsta Rap, Underground Hip-Hop
- MSX FM - Drum 'n' Bass, Jungle
- Flashback 95.6 - 80's Music
- Chatterbox FM - Talk Radio
- MP3 Player (PC only) - User-defined track player
- CD Changer (Xbox only) - Plays songs ripped from CDs stored on the Xbox hard disk
Radio stations
Head Radio
Head Radio is hosted by Michael Hunt (voiced by Russ Mottla), and plays pop rock and Adult Contemporary music.
The following songs can be heard on the station:
- Dil-Don't - "Stripe Summer"
- Whatever - "Good Thing" 1
- Craig Gray - "Fade Away"
- Conor and Jay - "Change"
- Frankie Fame - "See Through You" 1
- Scatwerk - "Electronic Go Go"
- Dezma - "Life Is But A Mere Supply" 2
Double Clef FM
Double Clef FM is hosted by Morgan Merryweather (voiced by Gerry Cosgrove), and plays only classic music.
The following songs can be heard on the station:
- Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart - "Non piu andrai farfallone amoroso"
- Gaetano Donizetti - "Chi mi frena in tal momento"
- Giuseppe Verdi - "Libiamo ne'lieti calici"
- Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart - "Finch'han del vino"
- Giacomo Puccini - "O mio babbino caro" (PS2 only)
- Giuseppe Verdi - "La donna è mobile"
K-Jah or Jah Radio is hosted by Horace "The Pacifist" Walsh (voiced by Herman Stephens), and plays reggae dub music.
The following songs can be heard on the station:
- Scientist - "Dance of the Vampires"
- Scientist - "Your Teeth In My Neck"
- Scientist - "The Corpse Rises"
- Scientist - "The Mummy's Shroud"
- Scientist - "Plague of Zombies"
Rise FM
Rise FM is hosted by Andre "The Accelerator" (voiced by Andre), and plays trance and rave music.
The following songs can be heard on the station:
- Chris Walsh + Dave Beran + Revolt + Terry Donovan - "Shake (Revolt Clogrock Remix)"2
- Shiver + Terry Donovan - "Deep Time"2
- R.R.D.S. + Terry Donovan - "Innerbattle"2
- Slyder + Terry Donovan - "Score (Original Mix)"2
- Slyder + Terry Donovan - "Neo (The One)"2
- Chris Walsh + Dave Beran + Revolt + Terry Donovan - "Shake (Revolt Clogrock Remix)"2
Lips 106
Lips 106 is hosted by Andee (voiced by Shelley Miller), and plays pop music.
The following songs can be heard on the station:
- Fatamarse - "Bump To The Music"
- April's In Paris - "Feels Like I Just Can't Take No More"1
- Lucy - "Forever"
- Boyz 2 Girlz - "Pray It Goes Ok?"1
- Da Shootaz - "Grand Theft Auto"
- Funky Bjs - "Rubber Tip"
Game FM
Game FM is hosted by Stretch Armstrong and Lord Sear as themselves, and plays underground hip-hop/rap music.
The following songs can be heard on the station:
- Rush - "Instrumental Bed 1"1
- Reef - "Scary Movies (Instrumental)"
- Royce Da 5'9" - "We're Live (Danger)"
- Nature - "Nature Freestyle"
- JoJo Pellegrino - "JoJo Pellegrino Freestyle"
- Royce Da 5'9" + Pretty Ugly - "Spit Game"
- Royce Da 5'9" - "I'm the King"
- Black Rob - "By a Stranger"
- Agallah + Sean Price - "Rising to the Top"
- Rush - "Instrumental Bed 2"1
MSX FM is hosted by MC Codebreaker and DJ Timecode as themselves, and play drum 'n' bass and jungle music.
The following songs can be heard on the station:
- Calyx + Timecode - "Quagmire"
- Rascal & Klone + Timecode - "Get Wild"
- Ryme Tyme + Timecode - "Judgement Day"
- Hex + Timecode - "Force"
- Omni Trio + Timecode - "First Contact"
- Aquasky + Timecode - "Spectre"
- Rascal & Klone + Timecode - "Winner Takes All"
- Ryme Tyme + Timecode - "T Minus"
- nCode + Timecode - "Spasm"
- D. Kay + Timecode - "Monolith"
- Dom + Ryme Tyme + Timecode - "Iceberg"
Flashback 95.6
Flashback 95.6 is hosted by Toni (voiced by Maria Chambers) and plays music from the hit 80's film Scarface.
The following songs can be heard on the station:
- Giorgio Moroder + Debbie Harry - "Rush Rush"
- Giorgio Moroder + Elizabeth Daily - "Shake It Up"
- Giorgio Moroder + Paul Engemann - "Scarface (Push It to the Limit)"
- Giorgio Moroder + Amy Holland - "She's On Fire"
- Giorgio Moroder + Elizabeth Daily - "I'm Hot Tonight"
Chatterbox FM
Chatterbox FM is a talk radio hosted by Lazlow himself. On this station Lazlow talks with guests and callers (mainly citizens of Liberty City).
The following persons are credited for guest voices:
- Lucien Jones
- Karin Bykowski
- Hank Stewart
- Abbi Davis
- Mellowvision.com
- Paul Maloney
- bernieS
- Frank Fava
- Kit Halsted
- Joe Casalino
- Dan Houser
- Jay Crutcher
- Frank Chavez
- DJ Rush
- A.M. Watson
- Laura Bykowski
- Navid Khonsari
- Sherry Wohglmuth
- Porkchop
- Renaude Sebbane
- Kyle Machlachlan
- Sabby
- Kim Schaefer
- Debi Mazar
- Nick Mandelos
- David Connell
- Reed Tucker
- Jennifer Kolbe
- Ami Plasse
- Keith Broadus
- Cameo Carlson
- JD Leeds
- Michael Madsen
The myriad commercials that appear throughout the game deserve a special mention. They are all written by Dan Houser and Lazlow (the latter of whom also produced them). They are fairly convincing as real adverts as they adhere to many typical marketing clichés and tricks. Several adverts mention telephone numbers and official websites. Rockstar actually created these websites, and though many links just eventually lead back to the Rockstar site, some are really quite detailed. The Petsovernight.com website displays pictures of animals and promises "If it's got a central nervous system, we've got it ready to go in a box to your house", tying in with the humour in the commercials.
Some examples of commercials within the game are: the Maibatsu Monstrosity adverts ("Mine is bigger!"), Fernando's New Beginnings ("A revolutionary new way to save your marriage."), the given phone number of which is 555-9292, and the new video game Pogo the Monkey ("He's got springs for legs!").
Non Selectable Radio Stations
There are several stations that can be seen advertised on billboards throughout Liberty City. However, these are not available for selection at any time during the game and have no songs or DJs associated with them. They are Liberty FM, WLLC 'The Zone', and Liberty Soul FM. It is not clear whether these stations were originally intended to be 'real' stations but dropped during development, or if they were simply designed to sit alongside other fake brands advertised in the game.
Another possible non-selectable station is what has been referred to as Orbit FM. However, close inspection of the ad (both in the game and in the instruction manual) shows that the correct name is OR-Bit. There is no 'FM' and no evidence that it is a radio station.
Soundtrack Artwork
- 1 - Fictional artist, song was made for the game.
- 2 - Song was mixed for the game.


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November 8, 8:00 PM - 10:20 PM @ Civic Center Cinema
November 8, 11:15 AM - 12:00 PM @ Valdez Consortium Library
Preschool Story Time happens every Friday at 11:15 am and wraps up by noon. Come join us for stories, songs, crafts and more! Story Time is intended for a preschool audience, but all ages are welcome.
November 8, 8:00 AM - 10:00 PM @ Ike "Woody" Woodman Recreation Center
The Teen Center will be closed while a new HVAC system is being installed.
November 8, 6:00 AM - 7:45 AM @ Valdez Swimming Pool
Get some exercise swimming laps! Lanes lines are used to separate swimmers and reduce their waves. If under 14 years old, must be accompanied by an adult and be proficient enough to swim laps.
November 8, 2:30 PM - 4:30 PM @ Valdez Swimming Pool
Local USA Swimming Club, the Valdez Torpedoes Swim Club, hones their skill and increases their strength and endurance under the direction of Coach Leo Overduyn. For more information about joining the swim team, please contact Club President, Wendy Balowski at 835-5717
November 8, 4:30 PM - 6:00 PM @ Valdez Swimming Pool
The Valdez High School Swim team is open to students in grades 9-12. Please contact the school for more information about joining!
November 8, 6:30 PM - 7:30 PM @ Valdez Swimming Pool
November 8, 7:30 PM - 8:30 PM @ Valdez Swimming Pool
Fun for all ages! Both pools are open, diving board is open. Deep-end is roped-off from the shallow end, making "lap swimming" difficult. Must be 8 years old or accompanied by an adult.


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Tottenham's Jan Vertonghen does not want to continue playing left-back
Jan Vertonghen has admitted he has told Andre Villas-Boas that he does not enjoy playing at left-back.
Last Updated: 26/12/12 10:27am
Central defender Vertonghen has played at full-back since Benoit Assou-Ekotto suffered a knee injury in September.
With Assou-Ekotto nearing full fitness, Vertonghen hopes to move back to his favoured position in the middle of defence.
When asked whether he found it frustrating playing at full-back, the 25-year-old said: "Yes, and the manager knows.
"I prefer centre-back but I want to help the team.
"It would be good to have Benoit back but not only for that reason as he is one of the best left-backs in the league."
Due to his time at left-back, Vertonghen is likely to be denied the chance to mark compatriot Christian Benteke as Spurs face Aston Villa on Boxing Day.
Benteke has taken the Premier League by storm since moving to England, but Vertonghen says he is not surprised by the impact he has made.
"It doesn't surprise me that he has done well," Vertonghen said.
"He now feels the confidence of the team, the crowd and the manager.
"You could see that in the last two games for the national team (when Benteke scored in wins over Serbia and Scotland). He was very good then and I think that Aston Villa made the right choice to sign him.
"He is very good in the air and he can score. He will be a very tough player to play against."


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The Fedora XFCE Spin page points to here,
Is cryptsetup supported so I can install XFCE over the top of my LUKS partitions?
That's handled by dm-crypt, which is part of the Linux infrastructure, not part of any DE.
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The 890GX chipset from AMD is considered to be on the lower high end of AM3 motherboards, bringing powerful integrated graphics while maintaining great overclocking potential. The ECS A890GXM-A is no different there, and also provides some great additional features many other 890GX based boards lack such as external CMOS clear button and dual Ethernet ports. Read on to see the full feature set and performance results of this $120 Black series motherboard!
Today, we take a look at the ECS A890GXM-A, a new board based on the 890GX chipset from AMD. This board is part of the Black Series of motherboards from ECS, which means that it is a board that is geared more to the performance and overclocking end for enthusiasts. The Black series seems to have done very well, and we expect to see some great results as we test this board today. If you missed our introduction of the 890GX chipset, you can go back and read Nate's article on it and see the results that he gets from a couple of other 890GX boards.
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Like the Million Dollar Man teaming up with Virgil
Media rumors suggest Sprint Nextel and Clearwire may have come to terms on a merger that Canaccord Genuity Telecommunications Analyst Greg Miller continues to believe both companies desperately need in order to maintain their strategic positioning in the increasingly mature U.S. wireless marketplace. With over 100 Mhz of spectrum in most major markets, Clearwire can deliver the capacity that Sprint will surely need.
Conversely, as it's largest customer and primary source of funding that might keep it from a date with the restructuring process, Miller believes Clearwire needs Sprint more now than ever before. Although the combination would dilute Sprint's near-term financial outlook, he believes that the combination of the two entities would create a far more powerful company than either is on a standalone basis. Although the ever-present possibility of a merger between Sprint and Clearwire has always created the fear of significant dilution to Sprint shareholders, Miller believes that with spectrum consumption accelerating, with the cash burn rate of Clearwire having declined dramatically and with the need to integrate the spectrum into Sprint's reconstruction process (Network Vision) early on, such an acquisition should be well received by investors for both entities.
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can HIV test be wrong
Jan 26, 2013
can HIV test be wrong....a year ago we tested negative with my wife....but now the test shows positive.. and we have never been with anybody apart from ourself only.. please help..?
Response from Mr. Cordova
Hi there:
Thanks for writing in. False-positive test results are possible. If your wife was pregnant at the time she took her test that could be causing her positive result. Pregnancy can induce cross-reacting nonspecific antibodies that can lead to indeterminate or false-positive HIV-antibody test results.
If this was an ELISA test, then the two of you should most certainly go in for a Western Blot. A Western Blot is the gold standard for HIV testing and is always done as a confirmatory test when there is a positive ELISA.
If the Western Blot does come back positive then you would be considered HIV positive. If you have a positive ELISA and a indeterminate Western Blot then your doctor would look at your history to determine if transmission was likely.
In the event of a confirmed HIV diagnosis, please know that HIV is not a death sentence. With proper medical care, a commitment to your health, and a positive attitude you can expect to live a long and productive life. Our Just Diagnosed section offers a wealth of knowledge and will be helpful in the event that you need it. Good luck.
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Creating an Application from Scratch, Part 2by Jesse Liberty
Back in November, I wrote a column in which I promised to create a project from scratch, while you watched. At the time I was calling the project Concord, but for no good reason I've renamed it PeopleLikeMe.
Well, time and clients and paying work intervened, and only this weekend have I actually started developing the project. Progress has been pretty good. Here's where things stand: I've created an ASP.NET 2.0 application with a page named UpdateRecords in which you enter your own AccountID from Amazon and create (or update) a record of all of your own reviews. (Soon to be implemented, it will also find the ID of everyone else who has reviewed the books you reviewed, and then find all the books they have reviewed.
The first cut of the database is fairly simple, consisting of only three related tables as shown in Figure 1.
As you can see, each book has an entry in the Books table and all the reviews for all of the books (by all of the reviewers) are stored in the Reviews table. Every reviewer has a ReviewerID (assigned by Amazon as the
CustomerID) and that ReviewerID is tied to the user's security and personalization ID through the User_To_Reviewer table. It isn't clear that we need the Books table at all, as we may end up generating all the information we need dynamically through a query to the Amazon Web Service by ASIN (ASIN is Amazon's generic identifier for all items; for books this value equals the book's ISBN) but for now it is a convenience and not difficult to populate.
Figure 1. Our database starts out as just three related tables.
The Amazon Web Service
All of the data about user reviews is [1] gathered from the Amazon E-Commerce Web Service, which is infinitely safer and more convenient than screen-scraping (and eliminates the copyright infringement issue). To get started, you'll need an Amazon Web Services Account.
Begin by going to Amazon and clicking on their link for Web Services (Figure 2).
Figure 2. Link to Amazon Web Services
Follow the steps to obtain the necessary membership keys [2] by clicking on Create Your Free Amazon Web Services Account, and then navigate to the (free!) Amazon E-Commerce Service.
You may want to download the code samples which (as of this writing) contain an out-of-date sample .NET (1.x) control. You'll certainly want the documentation,which includes a PDF file that, once you realize it was written for non-.NET programmers, can help you figure out which objects you want to use and which properties to set. For example, to find all the reviews by a given user, you'll discover there is a
CustomerFullResponseGroup and the documentation shows (in part) that the result of making a request for information about a specific customer returns the XML shown in Figure 3 (excerpt).
Figure 3. The XML returned by a REST request
I've put in arrows that indicate the tags that are translated into properties of the
CustomerContentLookupResponse object which I then turned into C# code more or less like Example 1:
Customers[] customersFound = CustomerLookupResponse.Customers;
if ( customersFound.Length > 0 )
Customer[] customerCollection = customersFound[0].Customer;
CustomerReviews[] customerReviews =
CustomerReviews custReviews = customerReviews[0];
if ( pageNumber == 1 )
bool recordsCleared = ClearRecords( customerLookupRequest.CustomerId );
if ( recordsCleared == false )
totalPages = Convert.ToInt32( custReviews.TotalReviewPages );
totalReviews = Convert.ToInt32( custReviews.TotalReviews );
Review[] reviews = custReviews.Review;
foreach ( Review review in reviews )
review.Content );
Example 1 (Error checking elided)
InsertReviews() is a method I wrote to insert this information into my database (not shown).
It turns out that to maintain maximum flexibility, many of these properties are collections, even when their property name is singular (and I hate that). For example, as shown in Example 1, the
Customer property is actually a collection of
Customer objects and the
Review property is actually a collection of
Review objects (why weren't these named
Customers and
Reviews?). You can also see that I make the (safe) assumption, given my query, that I will get back only zero or one customer, and that customer will have only zero or one set of reviews (though in the actual working code I do check these assumptions).
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ST. LOUIS, MO. -- Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology senior Julian Strickland (Indianapolis/Pike) led four players in double figures with a career-high 31 points to lead the Fightin' Engineers past the University of Chicago 85-80 on Saturday night.
Strickland finished 11-19 from the field and 8-10 from the free throw line with eight rebounds and five assists to lead the performance. He previously scored 30 points in the 2012 HCAC Tournament title game victory over Transylvania University that launched the Engineers into the NCAA Tournament.
Junior Michael Hallstein (Hopedale, Ill./Olympia) added 14 points on 6-7 from the field. Junior Jimmy Miller (Indianapolis/North Central) added 11 points, and sophomore Matt Loesing (Elsberry, Mo.) also reached double figures with a career-high 10 points.
Other key contributors included senior Jordy Martin (New Albany) and senior Jake Dodd (St. Peters, Mo./Missouri-St. Louis) with seven points each. Martin also had a team-high six assists.
Nate Brooks, Sam Gage and Jordan Brooks led the Chicago offense with 15 points each. Royce Muskeyvalley, younger borther of Rose-Hulman graduate and former standout Munchie Muskeyvalley, added eight points and five assists for the Maroons.
Rose-Hulman shot 55% from the field in the contest and also hit seven three-pointers to win in the second game of the Washington University Lopata Classic.
For their efforts, Strickland and Martin earned spots on the all-Lopata Classic Team.
Rose-Hulman improved to 1-1 on the season, while Chicago stands 2-2. The Fightin' Engineers host Carroll University in the home opener next Saturday at 3 p.m.


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They could just count voters.
No, wait. Forget that.
That is why sensors will be installed in all cemeteries. One of the reasons I love Chicago, I can stay active in politics after I die.
One has to be able to laugh at one's own faults.
It would be an interesting graph, showing how many users here are on the liberal/left side or conservative/right side of various topics here.
But even liberals can make jokes about Chicago's reputation. Especially if they live(d) there.
I figured with your sig you would realize there is a lot more to the political spectrum than just the left/right false dichotomy that the US system presents. The voting system ensures that the system will never change from 2 dominant political parties, but it would be nice to at least get a better party than the two shitfests we have now.
Of course I do. I just didn't want to drag the point out too much.
That's something I've asked about on other forums as well as here before.
What separates the left, especially the European version of left, from the American concept of left/liberal?
Is it really just ownership of land and business? Because it seems the American left wants all things that the European left does - wage parity, paid college education, national health care, abortion rights, environmental regulations, banking regulations, other business regulations, etc.
So what sets the far left so much apart, ot
What separates the left, especially the European version of left, from the American concept of left/liberal?
Left=pro-worker=socialist, though that word has been poisoned by a century of Red Scares here.
Right=pro-aristocrat=capitalist. (When you have a hereditary class of state-backed "owners" who control the economic resources, that's an aristocracy.)
Left/right has nothing to do with social issues like abortion rights, gay marriage, etc., nor does it have to do with the size of government. It's about wh
The Democratic party is thoroughly capitalist, with only a relatively minor disagreement with the Republican party as to what degree of exploitation of the proles by their feudal lords is best.
You better tell that to their leadership. Well, that or actually listen to them and change your comment to match reality. Unless you consider the elimination of private profit thoroughly capitalist. That is a stated goal of the socialist party that most of the democratic party including Pelosi and I think Reid are mem
For a start let's stop considering those who choose to corrupt politics and democracy as being either liberal or conservative, clearly they themselves do not believe in either only seeking to use them for purpose of camouflage and masquerade as they seek to defraud the people who trust them. As for monitoring cell phone traffic and claiming it as a service, yep, sure a service to big brother and the panopticon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P... [wikipedia.org] and only those in power can be trusted and the rest of us are a
Sometimes I forget that Slashdot is considered a "liberal" site...
Just because a place is run by Democrats does not mean there's anything "liberal" about it.
Chicago Democratic politicians are some of the most illiberal people you will ever meet. Especially our mayors. The last liberal mayor we had was Harold Washington, who was a really decent guy and a great mayor. Before him there was Jane Byrne, who was also really good for the city. Much of what's good in the city today had its start during Washington's administration, and you can trace most of the rot to the past two scumbags. The current mayor Rahm and his predecessor, Daley, are nothing but corporatist tyrants. It's why the bankers and Chamber of Commerce and corporate leaders all love them.
Here's a rule of thumb. If bankers and Wall Street support a politician, forget about their party label. They are scummy authoritarian fascists whose only agenda is the upward redistribution of wealth. You can count our current president and congressional leadership among them.
I'm not saying the two parties are the same, but their differences are completely trivial. It's why we see fundamentally the same policies no matter who gets elected.
Chicago residents have zero interest in individual rights and freedom. In fact, the very idea frightens them. They would much rather have the government take care of them and tell them what to do. This is why every Chicago incumbent (all Democrats) gets reelected as long as they are interested in running. People here have no desire for reform, as they are either getting something from "the system" or think they will be too.
Once I realized this, a lot of things that were previously a mystery all of a sudden
Chicago residents have zero interest in individual rights and freedom. In fact, the very idea frightens them. They would much rather have the government take care of them and tell them what to do.
Is that so? What a fascinating insight into us.
People here have no desire for reform, as they are either getting something from "the system" or think they will be too.
Sounds like your describing our current flavor of capitalism. Emphasis on the "think".
That's right. Since 2008, the Chicago Way has gone national. I'm sure I don't need to explain why.
Install sensors in Abraham lincoln's grave. As he turns in his grave; the direction he chooses to turn will indicate the vote; Aye or Nay.
" Researchers say there is nothing to fear about privacy because the sensors will only count people by observing cellphone traffic"
Yes, because there is nothing in cell phone traffic that uniquely identifies the phone, and there is no way to link the phone to an individual. You might have lent it to anybody.
2014, Jun, 20 22:15:47 - Person with SSN 352-79-3492 enters establishment 'Marla's Marvelous Massage'
2014, Jun, 21 01:42:15 - Person with SSN 352-79-3492 exits establishment 'Marla's Marvelous Massage'
2014, Jun, 21 03:19:02 - Person with SSN 352-79-3492 exists alleyway behind establishment 'Marla's Marvelous Massage'
2014, Jun, 20 22:15:47 - Person with SSN 352-79-3492 enters establishment 'Marla's Marvelous Massage'
2014, Jun, 21 01:42:15 - Person with SSN 352-79-3492 exits establishment 'Marla's Marvelous Massage'
2014, Jun, 21 03:19:02 - Person with SSN 352-79-3492 exists alleyway behind establishment 'Marla's Marvelous Massage'
Why you posting my personal data yo?
Guess the only way I'm going downtown is with a backpack full of jamming equipment.
Maybe he better pack a purple dildo, a six pack of Vaseline and a spatula in their too. When the cops stop him, he can just say he's going to a party and hope they don't ask what the spatula is for.
Without that, I'm thinking he would be labeled a terrorist and if anything innocent could get you a one way ticket to Club Gitmo, noise makers,smoke bombs, a strobe machine and a backpack full of jamming equipment would.
Or, you could just 'early adopt' one of those sensors for your own projects.
cool. I'll bring the bread and peanut butter. we'll have a great picnic!
see "public monitoring"
>> can you openly criticize your government. If the answer is yes then congratulations, you don't live in a dictatorship
And if a government body (like the IRS) singles your group out for harrassment (like auditing the hell out of all your associates) after critizing the government, then "yes, you can" live in a dictatorship too.
The police state simply hasn't come after you, yet.
Don't confuse permission with liberty.
The goal of the project is to build a permanent data collection infrastructure to monitor things that might help government officials, researchers and companies better understand the city environment.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
I read this, and thought, "Wait, I'm currently playing this in simulationâ¦" It's sad that this is manner in which life has chosen to imitate art. It also raises the question, "Did the researchers see the game and decide to try it? Is the game really a covert proof-of-concept? Or is this *really* just a coincidence? (Go away you nutty conspiracy theorists!)"
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
Or in this case, with unintentionally accurate simulations.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
I used to think that, now I think it's paved with people with good intentions, by people with bad ones. Cue the trampling.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
The new, Federally funded "Congressman Asshat Bypass" is faster!
it would also be darned useful to non-fascists.
Toss those words and phrases around LBGT issues, and the masses flock to your church.
But try to use them around issues like privacy, surveillance and three-letter agencies, and you're as ignored as Richard Stallman.
An anonymous contributor submits a link-free Oh Noes 1984!!!!, and the End Of All Our Freedoms comments just flood in.
those who think they are witty appending "of things" to a technology noun should be beaten to death with the femurs of those who use "in the cloud"
What do you suggest we do for people who say "in the cloud of things"?
Tip them out of their wheelchair and beat them on the head with their femurs?
Looks like somebody thought it was a good idea.
Even Abstergo Entertainment's offices in Assassin's Creed 4 were directly modeled after Ubisoft Montreal's.
They have cells in the basement?
They're just implementing E.A.'s industry-leading worker compliance measures
goolge is observing cellphone traffic for maps so why send the cash on this when we need other things done with more and longer CTA lines.
Vitamin C deficiency is apauling.


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For the past six years, the German Aerospace Center (DLR) has conducted a highly successful parabolic flight campaign using an Airbus A300 aircraft, dubbed 'Zero-G'. The flights enable scientists working in the fields of human physiology, biology, physics and materials science to conduct research while weightless as well as under increased gravity, up to 2g. During the 2004 campaign, a total of 124 parabolas with 24 experiments were flown, generating 46 minutes of weightlessness and 92 minutes of approximately twice normal gravity (1.8 g).
The flight days follow a fixed operational sequence. Researchers start early in the morning with final preparations for their test subjects and samples. Then, it's time for medications: Since humans on Earth normally only experience weightlessness for brief moments if at all, a parabolic flight can feel similar to a turbulent sea voyage and upset one's sense of balance. This can lead in some cases to nausea, and thus anti-nausea medicine can help considerably. All passengers then don blue flight suits and board the A300 Zero-G aircraft. For some 30 minutes, all systems on the Airbus are tested and checked and then the aircraft finally takes off. Once at cruising altitude and with the 'fasten seat belts' sign off, scientists start their experiments and research results begin to flow, even before the first parabola.
After some 30 minutes, the aircraft reaches the campaign flight area, in which normally 31 parabolas are flown. The initial 'zero-th' parabola is an exacting exercise for the crew, followed by Parabolas 1-30 for the researchers. These are divided into six series of five parabolas each. During short level flight breaks between each series, researchers can adjust parameters and settings on their experimental apparatus as necessary as well as swap medical test subjects. After landing, all scientists and the flight crew meet for a debrief in which the aircraft captain reports on the flight and on any problems or issues that might affect interpretation of experimental results. From such debriefings, any necessary changes to the flight profile or procedures can be implemented for future flights, helping to continually optimise research effectiveness.
Video: DLR Parabolic Flight Campaings (german) - ViewQuestion: Dr Preu, simply drawing a parabola on paper for some is quite difficult. Flying a parabola must be even more so. How does it work?
Dr Peter Preu: The Airbus A300 Zero-G is the world's largest flying laboratory for research under conditions of weightlessness. Humans can work onboard while weightless for short times, without actually flying into space. Since 1999, DLR has conducted an annual parabolic flight campaign and makes this unique flight opportunity available to scientists from universities and other institutes for experiments under zero gravity. Researchers address a broad spectrum of scientific questions from medicine, biology and physics as well as materials science. The Airbus offers a fantastic environment for such research. Onboard, 40 scientists can work, operating up to 15 experimental apparatuses per flight day. In Germany, we conduct the flights from Cologne-Bonn airport, from where we started flying in 2004.
Question: The parabolic flights must be, as the name implies, a fantastic experience of curving up, then down. Do passengers ever fear this experience?
Dr Preu: Yes, like a gigantic heavenly roller coaster, the plane arcs up and then down. The plane's trajectory is, however, always straight ahead and it flies without banking to either side. With a speed upwards of 830 km per hour, passengers experience periods of weightlessness during the dives interspersed with a pull of almost twice the normal force of gravity during climbs. On flight days, 31 parabolas are flown; 31 times the plane arcs up and then down, each one lasting about a minute. These provide 31 opportunities for generating successful experimental results and a really great feeling of accomplishment for participants. There's no need for fear, thanks to the the calm professionalism and experience of our aircraft commander, Captain Gilles Le Barzic, from France, and his team. Over 6000 parabolic flights have been successfully completed by their company, French flight operator Novespace, in the past few years, all completely problem-free.
Question: How can researchers continue to work despite this continuous up-and-down motion?
Dr Preu: One can work inside the aircraft very well. Every measure is taken by our French partners and DLR project management to ensure that the scientists obtain optimal conditions. But there remains some portion of success that depends on the scientists themselves, their preparations for the flight and, naturally, their level of physical fitness. It is fascinating to see scientists from the most diverse fields of research working together in such a unique laboratory, as well as students. The students in particular gain a very positive impression of the excitement of real research, which they carry forward in their later careers as engineers or scientists. The TEMPUS experiment vessel is one classic example of the efficiency of research work done on parabolic flights. Within 22 seconds of achieving weightlessness, a complete test process will be conducted; this includes first melting a metallic sample, then conducting precision measurements on the freely floating liquid metal, and finally cooling the sample back into the solid state.
Question: Is there any other possibility to create weightlessness on Earth?
Dr Preu: First, I would like to say that "weightlessness" is, physically, no different from what you experience in free fall. If you simply drop something or if you throw an object away, it will -- until the point of impact on the surface -- experience the condition of weightlessness. Thus, weightlessness is itself actually nothing very exotic. However, this condition is normally attainable on Earth's surface only for very short times.
For example: consider children playing on a trampoline; they feel weightlessness, but only for a fraction of a second. But the principle from such play is the same as with the parabolic flights. The child jumps up, and feels weightless, then lands and feels gravity, just as the researchers onboard the aircraft do, but now for a period significantly longer. Weightlessness over a longer time span -- hours or days -- can be reached only on a spacecraft such as the International Space Station or on a satellite in orbit; such spacecraft are also in free fall around the Earth. For short-time experiments on Earth, we use also use the Drop Tower in Bremen, a tall tower that offers up to five seconds' weightlessness enabling top-quality research possibilities in biology, physics, flammability and material sciences. In earlier centuries, for example, weightlessness was used for the production of cannon shot pellets because, while weightless, liquid metal solidifies into a useful spherical shape.
Question: But why not actually conduct these experiments in space? Why use parabolic flights?
Dr Preu: We must use different tools to solve different problems. Parabolic flights have two functions: First, the scientific and technical preparation of long-term experiments for implementation onboard the space station. Parabolic flights serve, therefore, as a stepping stone. Second, the flights make possible independent research in those specific areas for which 22 seconds of weightlessness are sufficient, and there are many. Additionally, parabolic flights offer more advantages. They are regularly available, economic and provide fast results. Also, the scientists can accompany their experiments and even perform mid-flight adjustments; this is more difficult or impossible with experiments sent into orbit on the space station. Moreover, we can promote science among a new generation with these flights. The research teams include many young researchers as well as students and they gain a strong sense of identity with "their" projects and their successes. And the high point of each campaign in the Airbus is, of course, the fascination of personally experiencing weightlessness. All this contributes to innovation in Germany, the gathering of excellent scientific results and motivates and promotes science among researchers of the future.
Question: How do you select the experiments? How can scientists participate in a parabolic flight?
Dr Preu: Very simply, by submitting a good experimental suggestion to DLR's Space Agency. Anyone can do this anytime. All suggestions are then scientifically assessed. With a solid idea and a little luck, you have a good chance of flying with the next campaign. DLR can also provide organisational and, if necessary, financial assistance. But I must say, demand in terms of the number of experimental ideas submitted for each campaign exceeds the capacity, so it's important to have a very good idea.


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Tuesday, March 27, 2007
Holy Buckmobile!
Ohio State car - Click Here for more great videos and pictures!
Sweet Jesus! Uh, I think that was supposed to be pro-OSU...right? I ask because if Benny and I were going to make a video mocking OSU, the two clips would be identical!
On the other hand, I can understand why the Tosu fan/car owner in the clip was so bummed to say good-bye to the ol' "Diddy 1." I mean, just look at that ride, folks. Two words: Babe machine. He probably had to beat them off with a stick.
Oh, and no, we didn't even notice the owner of the "Diddy 1" was sporting a Buckstache.
19 comments:
- MGoBlue93 said...
Two words: Babe machine. He probably had to beat them off with a stick.
Well, you got the "beat off" part right.
- March 26, 2007 1:36 AM
- Kirbdaddy said...
Great find gentlemen! OSU: Check! Piece of Shit car: Check! Vanity Plate: Check! Gay music: Check! Check! Check! Buckstache: CHECK!!! The PERFECT Buckeye viral video!!!
- March 26, 2007 1:36 AM
- Kirbdaddy said...
Point of clarification: Is a Buckeye fan sporting a goatee still in possession of a buckstache, or should it be called a BUCKTEE???
- March 26, 2007 1:40 AM
- Yost said...
Hmmm. Interesting question.
- March 26, 2007 3:01 AM
- TitleIX said...
it's a NASCAR thing...you just don't understand. ;-)
- March 26, 2007 7:21 AM
I think, maybe just maybe it's a joke. Ridiculing a joke?, come on M Zone... you're better than that.
PS. I think it's a joke.
- March 26, 2007 8:09 AM
I'm shocked that there wasn't a double-wide in the background. Props to my man!
Seriously though, my first thought was that this video had to have been done by a Michigan fan just to bust on the buckstachers, but now I find myself questioning that thought. The only thing that could possibly make this more painful is to find out that he is a school teacher.
- March 26, 2007 8:19 AM
Another less than stellar product made in Michigan. Improved on in Ohio.
The jealousy, oh the jealousy.
- March 26, 2007 9:21 AM
I'm fairly sure that this is not a joke video, in the sense that the message sent was not the one intended, for a few reasons:
A) No tears were shed by the owner, no regret or bitterness, because they beat Michigan. If they had lost to Michigan, the video would be top-heavy with pictures of victories the car went to. That and the car would have been executed, rather than put to rest.
B) The surrounding area of the car, and everything in the distance, is flat. I live in Illinois, and every time I look out the window of an office building, I can see over Ohio and well into Pennsylvania and West Virgina. That's assuming of course if the steel mills or Charlie Weis isn't blocking my view.
C) The car was autographed.
Now, I have doubts that this video is authentically OSU fan-born, for the following:
A) No viking funeral pyre for the car on a makeshift boat of styrofoam coolers and old ratty couches out into the Hoover Reservoir.
- March 26, 2007 9:31 AM
- Out of Conference said...
Interesting dissection, Walrus. I want so bad for this to be a joke, not in sympathy for a Buckfans everywhere, but in hope for mankind. I don't think it is, however.
I'm in the SOuth, so I don't have a winter beater vs. summer car like a lot of you yankees do, but I'm guessing this is the winter beater you drive to tOSU games when you don't want your normal winter beater to get torched. Either that, or the true identity of Orson's Subcomandante Wayne has been discovered.
- March 26, 2007 10:07 AM
I'm sure that the buckeyes took pride in the fact that the car's speed was equal to that in the SEC, as well.
- March 26, 2007 10:14 AM
The cheap red plastic spinners just bring the whole package together. Classic.
- March 26, 2007 11:38 AM
Not only do those Ohioans proudly display something that was built in Michigan, but an extinct Michigan product nonetheless.
And what about the nerve to oust Kitty Hawk, North Carolina as the true birthplace of avaition? I mean, if the rising methane of Ohio residents' asses didn't make flight impossible, then the Wright Brothers wouldn't have had to leave their Dayton bicycle shop to test their new machine.
- March 26, 2007 1:13 PM
"...an extinct Michigan product nonetheless."
Uh huh?
Like conference titles in football?
- March 26, 2007 1:24 PM
Yeah 3 conference titles in football so far this decade is a major drought, practically extinct right?
Sounds like WhetstoneBuck is taking the Diddy1 loss pretty hard. Hang in there, champ.
- March 26, 2007 5:13 PM
Easy no name. All in fun. However, I think I stumbled on to your trigger.
- March 26, 2007 7:01 PM
- ohio_guy said...
2 things...
1. walrus, Ohio is not completely flat.
2. And to never seen oh plates b4:
Ohio is the "birthplace" of aviation because it was Ohioans who developed it. The Wright's were born here and lived here, hence the word birthplace.
Giving NC the credit for developing aviation would be like giving credit to Belgium for winning the Battle of the Bulge.
It's about who did it, not where they did it...
- March 26, 2007 7:05 PM
You KNOW the ****'s for real when it uses both Time of Your Life and Wind Beneath My Wings.
Goodbye, Diddy 1. If I knew you, I'm sure I would miss you.
- March 26, 2007 7:59 PM
- dtw2phx said...
Remember...you can't spell "Diddy" without DEE-DEE-DEE!!!
- March 26, 2007 10:57 PM


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Name: The Vines Convocation Center
Site: Next to DeMoss Hall in the middle of the Liberty University campus
Capacity: 8,085 for volleyball and 10,000 for special events
Construction: The main portion of the building is constructed of steel and concrete, and the roof is constructed with 10-foot triangular aluminum sections that are pieced together by Temcor, a roofing company out of Torrence, Calif.
Contractor: McDevitt & Street of Raleigh, N.C.
Architect: Haken/Corley and Associates of Raleigh, N.C.
Date of Completion: November, 1990
Facilities: The Vines Convocation Center includes four concession stands, basketball and volleyball coaches offices, locker and team room facilities, a weight room, a training room, a hospitality room and press room
Playing Surface: The volleyball court is a hardwood surface.
The Vines Center, home of the Liberty University volleyball team, played host to the 2007 Big South Volleyball Championship. Like the last time the conference tournament was played in the Vines Center in 2001, the Lady Flames came away with the Big South Championship and the automatic bid to the NCAA Tournament.
Prior to 2007, the Lady Flames won the third of four Big South Championships at the 2001 event, earning a spot in the NCAA Tournament. Sizable crowds at the Vines Center propelled Liberty to victory.
Over 3,000 fans watched the Lady Flames defeat Coastal Carolina, Winthrop and Radford to win the title. The 1,125 fans present at the semifinal win over Winthrop, and the crowd of 1,037 at the championship match versus Radford, represent two of the largest single-match attendance figures in Big South volleyball history.
Liberty averaged the highest attendance in the conference in 2007, helping the Lady Flames squad earn the No. 1 seed and a first round bye in the Big South Volleyball Championship. The Lady Flames broke the Big South single-match attendance mark in 2007, as 1,583 fans filed in to see Liberty defeat Winthrop on Oct. 27, 2007, halting the Eagles' 63-match Big South winning streak. Two weeks later, on Nov. 10, the record was eclipsed once more when 1,622 fans watched Liberty sweep Radford on Senior Night. Liberty has played well at the Vines Center in recent years, going 60-25 at home in the past seven seasons.