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Semi-silently? The text explicitly tells you it's installing Safari and gives you a checkbox to not install it. What exactly is illegal?
"Semi-silently"? What, kind of like a stealth aircraft that, umm, isn't really particularly stealthy?
The dialog is clearly split - top half, iTunes, bottom half, other stuff. I uncheck it. It clearly states, right up front, that it's optional. Easy.
And the titlebar at this point says "Apple Software Update". Once you choose to go ahead and install iTunes, then it will say iTunes updates, which I think sounds alarmingly sensible, quite honestly.
iTunes is a dreadful, dreadful piece of software on Windows. But
That how it works AFTER people complained. Originally Safari was in the same box as iTunes and checked by default. Like this:
That how it works AFTER people complained. Originally Safari was in the same box as iTunes and checked by default. Like this:
But unlike for the third party crap that seems to be installed now with every updater (*) on Windows, by default it is disabled for quite some time now.
(*) the checkbox is always hidden in the graphics of the second to last pop-up window of the installer, or on the webpage somewhere far from the install-button. Adobe updates, Java updates, even WinSCP (IIRC) updates try to force some third-party dreck on me.
The titlebar of the update app saying "iTunes Software Updates." That isn't what it is.
AFAIK the program has always been called "Apple Software Update". And the the checkbox to install Safari has been disabled by default for over three years now.
Not that it matters now that Safari for Windows is dead.
You mean the checkbox in plain sight that you can simply un-check, and not install Safari? I'm not sure how that is a trojan or semi-silent or in the background.
Google installs the auto-update spyware with Earth without any option to disable it, unless you know to get the "advanced" installer. Now that is a trojan! Removing the updater is not exactly easy either.
You mean the checkbox in plain sight that you can simply un-check, and not install Safari?
You know, I always used to look down on people the same way you are now. For years and years.
Until, one fateful day, I did not pay enough attention to an Adobe Reader update. It installed Google Chrome. I guess I missed an opt-out checkbox somewhere along the way. (Unless it was a 100% stealth install? I guess that's possible.)
Ever since that happened, I no longer look down on people the same way like that. I think an out-opt default, when we are talking about installing brand new software (not updates), is just plain wrong for companies to do. In my opinion, new software installs should always be opt-in.
It's just the right thing to do.
It's just the right thing to do.
Which doesn't matter a bit to the sociopaths that run these big corporations.
It isn't illegal if they tell you Safari is also being installed. Software companies have been doing this stuff for over a decade now. (Maybe Apple will let us download the whole OS X too. That would be sweet.)
It's a bit bogus to compare something that breaks US law to something that doesn't break US law.
Only a lawyer can imagine a world where a person agrees to paying a 22.5 million dollar fine and then can seriously claim they did nothing wrong.
Not only did lawyers imagine such a world, they have created it. How many times do you hear of a company that gets bullied by a larger company and agrees to pay money to make the bully go away--even when the smaller company is clearly in the right--because paying the bully to go away is less expensive than fighting and winning against it in court?
The thought of Google paying Apple to make it stop bullying it gave me a good laugh.
The thought of Google paying Apple to make it stop bullying it gave me a good laugh.
Either this is posted in the wrong thread, or you have confused Apple with the US Government, which was the party with whom Google settled in this case.
How many times do you hear of a company that gets bullied by a larger company and agrees to pay money to make the bully go away--even when the smaller company is clearly in the right--because paying the bully to go away is less expensive than fighting and winning against it in court?
Not just among companies, either. California has a litigation industry built around demanding settlements from small businesses under the Americans With Disabilities Act. Give them $5K and they'll go away. Fight it and it'll cost you several times that. So most of them settle, even when the alleged infraction is a crock. There was one case locally where a law firm wrote demand letters to every business in a small town near San Diego, at least some of which it could be proven the plaintiff could not possibly
It's called a settlement, which saves the court's time-and-energy avoiding a long battle. 11 years ago the CD Cartel (record companies) did the same thing when they agreed to refund $25 to all 1990-to-2001 CD purchasers, in order to end the litigation immediately. They also admitted no wrongdoing.
Google does no evil is a declarative statement, not a descriptive one. If Google does it, it wasn't evil.
>>>If Google does it, it wasn't evil.
Sounds like our drone policy. Or Richard Nixon. "If the dead person was in the combat area, he or she is not an innocent victim. They are terrorists. Therefore we have a zero civilian casualty rate." Even the little kids were terrorists? "Yes."
"If the president does it, it's not a crime." - Nixon.
Do you have a citation for that? Because I don't think I'd ever heard the word "terrorist" until Clinton was in office. And there were no drones when Nixon was in office (at least nobody was supposed to know about them; they were classified then).
The day I got home from SEA, the headlines were screaming "NIXON RESIGNS!!!" so it's not like I wasn't around back then. In that time period it was communists, not terrorists, that were the bugaboo.
* For sufficiently narrow definitions of "evil".
Yesterday, it was posted that IE 10 will have Do Not Track by default turned on [slashdot.org] by default.
Does that mean Google can be fined if it ignores the users' request for the Do Not Track? What is the difference between this and Safari? I wonder because the comments in that story suggested that website operators can use it an an opt in and ignore it otherwise. I wonder if it would then be a liability to do so?
Right, but they said they wouldn't because EU law required them to -- a law that would be unconstitutional (violating the first Amendment) if it was a US law. So why is the US enforcing such a law?
As a somewhat absurd hypothetical, consider if Iran passed a law that a company can't do business with Iran if they hire any Jews. Some company really wants to do business with Iran, so as Iranian law requires, they say they won't hire any Jews. Then the United States government gets a tip that this company has hi
No, Google is not being sued for lying. They are being sued for purposely circumventing a privacy control via what could be called a hack. Now, you can blame Apple for the fact that this hack was possible, but do you not blame the party who purposely circumvented the mechanism? If I can find a way to circumvent your computer's security mechanism, would you only blame the OS manufacturer, or would you be upset that I broke in?
The problem is that Webkit, the engine that Safari uses, told people how to do this in a bug report. Google didnt "hack" anything, the developers placed the ability to do it in the code.
https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35824 [webkit.org]
Because the Safari settings wasn't just 'asking' not to be tracked, but rather was supposed to prevent cookies from being placed by 3rd parties (essentially web sites you hadn't directly visited). What google did was to simulate a fake form submission to this third party site in order to set a cookie.
Not similar at all to the honor system 'do not track' setting.
Because the Safari settings wasn't just 'asking' not to be tracked, but rather was supposed to prevent cookies from being placed by 3rd parties (essentially web sites you hadn't directly visited). What google did was to simulate a fake form submission to this third party site in order to set a cookie.
Not similar at all to the honor system 'do not track' setting.
Some AC in this thread has posted that google only did this when the user had a Google and account and had ticked the box saying there did not mind being tracked. If that is true it does make things slightly less clear cut as to their wrong doing, especially being that Apple just blindly applied this setting to every users broswer with asking them.
I have to admit though, I knew they did this as it broke the website I work on and it caused me a whole shit load of hassle so I am very biased. We provide an ele
If such was the case, the proper corse from google would have been to notify the user so they could visit the third party site, or inform them how to disable the setting. Hacking around it and as a result forcing all users to be tracked isn't a good answer.
The easy fix would to be a button the user could click to submit a real user initiated form to the site in question, hence no longer making it a 3rd Party Site
Step 1: Get caught doing something shitty
Step 2: Promise to the regulators that it won't happen again
GO TO Step 1
I don't remember the details, but wasn't this a little more nuanced then just Google straight-up lying?
Also, and I'm not trying to defend Google if they did lie about this or whatever, but I think a lot of the crap over cookies is popular media sideshow scare stuff. It (in this case, I believe) doesn't identify individual users and anyway people can generally be tracked by IP and sessions and other stuff.
I want to be able to log in! But I don't want any stateful information stored outside the stateless protocols!
I want to have a browser that makes exceptions to just outright disallowing 3rd party cookies, but I want revenge when those exceptions backfire!
Microsoft, Apple, Google, Comcast, VerizonWireless,
Silly me I thought when you said, "I won't do it anymore," that meant you'd stop. That doesn't seem to apply to the things called corporations.
Well, in truth how many times do engineers pour over the court documents that the lawyers develop while in court? Pretty simple to miss something occasionally, I'm not convinced that Google has just decided to flip the bird to all it's users and the court system yet. In comparison to the people that are "too smart" to get caught or too powerful for the courts to do anything to.
"We'll pay your fine... not because we are wrong, but because it.... 'costs too much' to prove that we didn't really do anything wrong."
I see that Google has grown large enough and been around long enough to attract high priced, high powered legal council. Good for them. They are a true corporation now.
They just need to take the final step of setting up the revolving door between themselves and Washington DC and they will truly be in the big leagues.
"A fine of £14 million is pocket money to them - just operating overhead. If the government wants to moderate Google's behaviour (besides just pretending to want to) then they would fine them far, far more."
A fine thought, however, think of the consequences of say fining Google a £/$1 billion for an offense that hasn't harmed much less killed any kittens. This would jack up the liabilities of companies that do real harm like an oil spill or a nuclear radiation leak. So what do your p
To make it worse, Google is openly engaged in large scale tax evasion/avoidance.
Just to nitpick (a.k.a. correct your misleading comment) evasion and avoidance are two totally separate things. One is illegal. The other is not. If you are aware that Google are evading tax then you should inform the taxation authorities in the relevant countries and become the hero of many an anti-Google fanboy.
Google are known to be avoiding tax, and to many people (including me) that smacks of immoral behaviour. Taxes are there for a reason. They pay for shit that helps everyone. However, the tax system
Unlike a lot of state/county "fund raising", fines collected by the FTC and other departments are not counted as income. Some of the money may go to the people that file the grievance with the FTC with the balance going to the treasury department. Fines are only about 1 million or so a year, maybe a bit higher, so compared to the trillion or so dollars the government is spending, it doesn't really provide incentive to fine people except as needed in order to protect consumers.
Information comes from http:/ [ftc.gov]
By now they seem to have enough important movers and shakers in their pocket, that they can get put of immoral and criminal behavior without even having to admit something and with fines that are a joke. Time for everybody with still intact ethics to leave them.
They do have some benefits... http://www.forbes.com/sites/meghancasserly/2012/08/08/heres-what-happens-to-google-employees-when-they-die/ [forbes.com]
I blame the Conservative coders over at Google+.
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SAN FRANCISCO (CBS/AP) — Californians are increasingly pumping air into the flat tires on their dusty old bikes instead of gas into their tanks.
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Meh. This isn't an onerous business tax. Pretty much all states have this tax. You have a physical presence in the state you pay sales tax. Dell does it. I have no clue why Amazon thought they could skirt it.
Companies don't PAY sales tax, they COLLECT it. The people in Texas that order from Internet retailers like Amazon are the ones who pay, or don't pay, sales tax. Amazon just collects the tax from the customer, and then pays it to Texas.
One difficulty is that if a Texas consumer wants to buy an item online, and they pay sales tax when ordering it from Amazon.com but not tax if ordering from (e.g.) buy.com, then Amazon will lose business. So it's in Amazon's best interests to NOT collect sales tax from Texas customers if they can avoid it.
There is no clear answer here. On the one hand, you have the Streamlined Sales Tax movement (http://www.streamlinedsalestax.org/) that is trying to enact legislation in as many states as possible requiring retailers to collect tax from customers, regardless of whether the retailer has a presence in that state. The intent is to "level the playing field" and close the no-tax loophole of ordering from out of state - allowing in-state merchants to compete fairly with out-of-state merchants. If this were enacted, Amazon would collect the tax and so would everyone else - so no one would be at an advantage or disadvantage in that regard.
That sounds well and fine, but the difficulty is the mechanics involved. Sure, Amazon and Wal-Mart and other big companies can code their web sites & shopping carts to figure out where the customer lives, and collect sales tax appropriately. The problem is that setting up a web site to do this is expensive - there are data subscriptions and a lot of coding involved. Over hundreds of thousands or millions of transactions, the cost is minimal. But the effort required by Amazon is really not much different from the effort required from doggiechewtoys.com or any other mom-n-pop operation - except that the little guys don't have the transaction volume to dilute the up-front costs. So it is VERY hard on small businesses to make this kind of change.
What to do? Beats me.
The problem is that setting up a web site to do this is expensive - there are data subscriptions and a lot of coding involved.
What to do? Beats me.
Create a (federal) government run site to manage sales-tax related data, and offer an API that can easily integrate with all major services. The coding required for individual vendors would be minimal - when the user clicks the "checkout" button, create a connection to the API requesting the most recent applicable tax rates for the customers address, and apply them to the total. Even a script kiddie could slap together the required code in about 5 minutes. Larger sites could store a local cache of the en
This sounds easy on the outside, but in reality it is not if you are doing it right. (FYI: I have experience adding a third party sales tax vendor (similar to the API you write about) into ecommerce websites.) It definitely does not take 5 minutes and I wouldn't suggest that any script kiddie do it. (You are dealing with real money here.) In the real world, you have to deal with all sorts of things like:
*) Taxes that vary depending on the type of item being bought. (Meaning you have to make sure your items have the various classifications for all the various laws.)
*) Need to then deal with crediting taxes on order cancels/returns/changes, which can be even more fun when you are doing it for a split quantity returned.
*) Error handling when remote API goes down
*) Validating user inputted address matches up with a valid tax address.
*) Shipping is taxable for some areas and others not. So again, you get to deal with this headache every time there is an order return or other order changes.
It's definitely doable, just not near 5 minutes doable and is definitely a cost to be considered by smaller sites.
A general site is going to be very complicated, and knowing the sales tax is only part of the problem.
Sales taxes are not necessarily X% on every sale. Different localities have different rules on what gets taxed and what doesn't, or can vary the taxes depending on the type of merchandise. These taxes can also vary from day to day, as some localities have holidays for particular things. It would be necessary to create a taxonomy of merchandise based on the laws of every state, county, city, metro area, school district, or mosquito control district that collects sales taxes. The job of matching address to taxing entities is also large, but that can be handled at the federal website level, with the caveat that shipments to post office boxes are best effort guess for municipality.
Once joesobscuremerchandise.com has calculated the taxes, and billed appropriately, Joe owes various entities the taxes he has collected. The paperwork on that alone could be prohibitive for a small site.
The only thing that would make collecting sales tax feasible for the small business is a massive reform effort to make sales taxes uniform, and that will face a lot of opposition.
The tax rate is 8.25% for many of the residents.
Plus property taxes are about $1,000 per $50,000 home value.
Our problem is the Perry sucks as governor in the same way Bush did.
Instead of being a true conservative, he was a spendthrift.
Dan Patrick (who is too socially conservative for my tastes) *may* be a true fiscal conservative which would be nice.
The tax rate is 8.25% for many of the residents.
Plus property taxes are about $1,000 per $50,000 home value.
Our problem is the Perry sucks as governor in the same way Bush did.
Instead of being a true conservative, he was a spendthrift.
Dan Patrick (who is too socially conservative for my tastes) *may* be a true fiscal conservative which would be nice.
True, the myth of lower taxes in Texas is false. I moved from Texas to Colorado (generally assumed to be a less conservative place), bought a more expensive house, and make more money, but my overall taxes somehow went down. The services I receive have improved too.
The only state that's NOT having budget problems is North Dakota. Ellen Brown [webofdebt.com] says North Dakota is sitting pretty because they own the Bank of North Dakota [wikipedia.org].
See How the Nation's Only State-Owned Bank Became the Envy of Wall Street [motherjones.com].
All the other states are slaves to their financiers on Wall Street. For example, the City of Phoenix (Arizona) borrowed a billion dollars over the past 5 years to build out the water system. Now the water department wants to raise an extra $24million a year by raising water fees... 'Cause the usury always gets paid first.
I calculate that the interest charge on a billion dollars a year (at 5%) is $50million. If Arizona owned a bank like North Dakota, the Bank of Arizona would have financed the Phoenix water expansion (at, say, 3%). Most of the $50million the city is now bleeding out to Wall Street would instead be flowing into the state's treasury.
The financial crisis is easily fixable, with the right solutions. Money and the Crisis of Civilization [realitysandwich.com], and
The only state that's NOT having budget problems is North Dakota. Ellen Brown says North Dakota is sitting pretty because they own the Bank of North Dakota.
And who is Ellen Brown and why should we believe her? (And I note you link not to her - but to an article that lays North Dakota's solvency on an entirely different cause.)
All the other states are slaves to their financiers on Wall Street. For example, the City of Phoenix (Arizona) borrowed a billion dollars over the past 5 years to build out the water system. Now the water department wants to raise an extra $24million a year by raising water fees... 'Cause the usury always gets paid first.
What does raising more money have to do with having borrowed money? (I.E. correlation is not causation.) That could be just as easily explained by unexpected costs (as is the case with my local water department, heavier than normal winter storms caused damage), or by poor planning (as I've also seen with my local water department).
I calculate that the interest charge on a billion dollars a year (at 5%) is $50million. If Arizona owned a bank like North Dakota, the Bank of Arizona would have financed the Phoenix water expansion (at, say, 3%). Most of the $50million the city is now bleeding out to Wall Street would instead be flowing into the state's treasury.
Maybe they could have, maybe they couldn't have - interest rates are a function of the cost of the money the bank loans to the water dept, not a function of numbers you've pulled out of your ass.
The financial crisis is easily fixable, with the right solutions. Money and the Crisis of Civilization, and
... Richard Clark's A Bailout for the People are also on my recommended reading list.
The only interesting thing there is that you didn't link to a gold bug site as well.
Oregon does not have sales tax. They do have an inventory tax. The inventory tax is not only on your product, but on your furnishings and equipment. States to provide incentives to attract businesses. A couple of the largest businesses in the state are Nike and Intel. Nike distributes shoes mostly made overseas. Their inventory is relatively low and their inventory value is relatively low.
On the other hand, Intel does manufacturing in Oregon as well as a good portion of R & D. If Intel was taxed at the same rate for inventory as Nike, they would not be in Oregon at all. The equipment for manufacturing IC's is several million dollars each. Intel negotiates with Oregon for a break on the inventory tax and brings to the table the rates they pay on other locations such as New Mexico, Ireland, Israel, etc. Oregon is well aware if they didn't offer this incentive, Intel would no longer be in Oregon.
http://www.oregonlive.com/opinion/index.ssf/2010/10/oregon_intel_inside.html [oregonlive.com]
Oregon is well aware that Intel contributes way more to the state of Oregon than Nike. Trying to "Tax them fairly" will result in the loss of Intel in Oregon. Intel is by no means getting no taxes. Intel contributes heavily to the local infrastructure and education.
It sounds to me like Texas has attracted Amazon with a temporary deal and it has expired. Amazon has not been able to extend the deal. Now the party is over.
Amazon may owe Texas a quarter billion dollars, but this is the last year. They are not remaining as Texas expected them to.
Texas expected they were too big to fail. Surprise..
I remember hearing about this a while back though, and I believe it all actually started before the budget crisis.
That said, I live in Texas, and am pretty incensed that my state is trying to do the same thing a few other states have to companies that do business on the internet. The end result is they've cost quite a few jobs, meaning they've actually eliminated some tax revenue (no state income tax, but jobless people buy fewer things, so less sales tax). Also, that when I buy something from Amazon it's
I can't blame Amazon at all for this.
This whole tax from the state it comes from/tax from the state you live in needs to be decided (federally) and set in stone once and for all. Same goes for who collects it and when.
IANAL, but I've done a lot of tax programming for major retailers over the years.
While I agree that sales taxes are ridiculous and hard and all that, I feel it's important to point out that Amazon actually has a presence in Texas, and therefore when they sell product to Texans they actually do need to be collecting sales tax and remitting it to the State of Texas. This is commonly known as "nexus" in sales/use tax circles. This is what Texas is asking for - sales/use tax from sales to Texans from Amazon (who has a presence in Texas and is therefore subject to the laws of Texas with regards to their sales in Texas).
If Amazon was being told they needed to collect on behalf of, for example, Maine, they have the absolute right to tell Maine's comptroller to go straight to hell. In fact, as a citizen of Maine, I'd love to be able to listen to that conversation. I'll never be able to tell our comptroller to go to hell, so it'd be great to be able to hear someone else say it.
Amazon has no presence here in Maine, therefore they have no obligation to follow Maine's regulations surrounding sales/use taxes, which are intrastate law, not interstate. The sales/use tax on things I buy from Amazon is my responsibility to track as a Mainer doing business with a company outside the state, and I owe that money to Maine at the end of the year (and we have a system called "Alternative Use Tax" where I pay a small stipend based on income tax to cover any incidental out-of-state purchases I happen to make if I don't want to track them all, which I use).
But Amazon has a presence in Texas. In the same way that the company I currently work for has to start collecting and remitting State sales taxes every time we open our first store in each State (or call center, or warehouse, or business office, or whatever), Amazon really does owe that sales tax to the State of Texas, whether they have been collecting it from their customers or not.
Now, they can certainly choose to pull out of Texas in order to avoid having to collect taxes there, that's within their rights. But they still owe the State of Texas $269 million (plus whatever other sales they make before they finish the pullout), because they were supposed to be collecting that money from their customers who live in Texas for the entire time they've had a presence there.
Note to Amazon: Please come to Maine. We could use the jobs. I'll happily pay sales tax on purchases made from you.
While I agree that sales taxes are ridiculous and hard and all that, I feel it's important to point out that Amazon actually has a presence in Texas, and therefore when they sell product to Texans they actually do need to be collecting sales tax and remitting it to the State of Texas.
The main issue seems to be that the states are changing the definition of "presence", sometimes seemingly retroactively. It used to be if your headquarters was situated in the state, then people buying from you needed to pay income tax. Then it was if it was shipped from that state. Then if the company had any offices whatsoever, so even if Amazon had some offices serving only internal customers, then they would have to collect tax on everything bought by the state. Now, states like NY and Texas are saying that if any company they are "partners" with are in the state, then the partner company has to collect tax. Amazon hires a company in NY to do some coding, then Amazon has to collect taxes on stuff bought by New Yorkers.
Really, this is all just mail order and things should have been settled and stabalized with Sears back in the days of the wild west. However, states are looking for more money and changing the agreements and telling companies to pray they don't change them any more.
The crux of this argument is that Texas is demanding taxes which were never collected. Amazon cannot go back in time and collect 6.5% from every item shipped to a Texan over the years, so the state is effectively asking for a handout.
Ultimately this plays into the greater debate about sales tax being a regressive tax, which then plays into an even greater debate over the fact that government is just a collection agency for the obscenely wealthy.
Failure to collect taxes doesn't absolve you from the liability of paying for them. I live in Texas, and I occasionally sell products to Texans. I collect sales tax for those purchases. But even if I didn't, I'd still owe just as much to the state based on the total amount I sold to Texans, pure and simple.
Just because Amazon did the wrong thing doesn't mean Texas is "asking for a handout."
Imagine if your employer didn't withhold federal income tax from your paycheck. Now it's tax time, and you owe all t
I collect sales tax for those purchases. But even if I didn't, I'd still owe just as much to the state based on the total amount I sold to Texans, pure and simple.
Just because Amazon did the wrong thing doesn't mean Texas is "asking for a handout."
From what I understand, Texas is asking for $250M in taxes from before Amazon had a presence in the state, during which time they were absolved of being required to collect them. In that case, it's just like any other mail order business where the purchaser is required to report those taxes and pay the taxes himself. So, no. It's not the same thing.
the middle class always gets humped, sans lube.
>> hump tax
Called such because the middle class is getting fucked.
Good. Sales tax is a regressive tax, meaning poor people pay more than rich people.
Yeah, cause the poor buy SO much more than the rich...
They might. When I buy a £100 pair of trail running shoes, they last until the sole wears through - but cheaper shoes I've had in the past have sometimes only lasted a few weeks. I'm sure this applies to more than just shoes. When you can afford quality products, you don't have to buy stuff so often. Being rich means you can buy stuff more often if you wish to of course, but then again, I'm sure some rich people are now rich because they have saved, then invested wisely.
Yes actually. the poor spend near 100% of their income on basic goods and necessities and outnumber the wealthy 10 to 1.
A wealthy person only buys so much crap. A hypothetical 10% sales tax takes ~10% of a poor persons income while the same 10% sales tax may take 0.01% of a wealthy persons income.
The only way for sales tax to be close to "flat" is if you charged it on the purchase of financial instruments like stock.
As a percentage of their incomes? Yes, yes they do.
Good. Sales tax is a regressive tax, meaning poor people pay more than rich people. Even if you want to stick it to Amazon, in a very real way, sale tax is passed on to the consumer. The sooner we can get rid of that awful tax and move to a more equitable tax system, the better..
I assume you're speaking as a relative percentage of entire income, because if you mean that in absolute terms, it's a pretty silly statement. I think it's a pretty safe bet that "rich" people purchase a good bit more than "poor" people do, and thus pay significantly more money in sales tax. In the unlikely event that such a statement isn't true, and that rich people aren't buying more than poor people... well maybe that's why the poor people are poor, maybe they should spend less?
I know, I know, rich man k
I know is that I've met many "poor" people in my life who when they get that income tax refund or birthday gift of cash etc, go out and buy a couch or a tv instead of paying their credit card bill.
Like Hell they do - they get an income tax loan in January with a 30% effective interest rate, and buy a new big screen or pair of running shoes long before that refund check arrives!
It's amazing how financially ignorant people can be - my younger self definitely included. There's just no educational system to teach better ways: if you don't learn from family, you're stuck learning the hard way.
Most people don't understand debt. they don't know what "17% APR" actually means. They don't understand that compound interest works against them if they owe money just as strongly as it works for them if they invest money. It's easier to blame "the man" than learn simple math. Really this stuff is based on like 7th grade math.
I got my first credit card at age 33, solely because I needed to build a credit rating in order to purchase a house. I had a "0" credit score until age 32. Apparently the idea that "I
All taxes are regressive. The lie of the left is taxes can be progressive at all. Everyone pays all the taxes. Hiding taxes among the 'rich' doesn't help people realize this, as the taxes just get hidden, and passed down to the little guy in the form of higher prices, lower wages and so on.
But this suits the "progressives" because it creates class warfare upon which to win elections. And when you pit the 'rich' against the 'poor' the people in the middle get screwed the most. If everyone were to realize how
You can see this with Cigarettes. Legal, taxed to death, and we don't have nearly the problem with second hand smoke as we used to.
As opposed to when cigarettes were illegal? Except they weren't. In your theory, the higher the taxes, the lower the smoking, but this is just another form of punishment. Empirically, if your theory were correct, European countries with high taxes on cigarettes would have low smoking rates, and yet they don't.
If everyone were to realize how much of what they buy is "tax" they throw a fit and toss all the bums out of the legislature and executive branches of government.
Ultimately around 20% of the GDP goes to the federal government in taxes. I'm paying around 30% of my income, that means someone else is not paying their fair share.
Hiding taxes among the 'rich' doesn't help people realize this, as the taxes just get hidden, and passed down to the little guy in the form of higher prices, lower wages and so on.
It's a fallacy to think that 100% of a tax gets passed down. If that were true, in 1946, when the top tax rate was 94%, then the government would have gotten around 94% of the money. And yet, it only got 20% of GDP or so. Check it out, these figures are easily available on the web.
Vote on things you don't want society to promote, make it legal and tax those things. Legalize drugs, tax them. Legalize Prostitution, tax it. Legalize whatever you think is a "victimless crime" and tax the activity. You'll end up with far more revenue, far less crime (by definition) and the problems of society become controlled.
This is an interesting idea, but if you think it would close the federal budget deficit, it's probably because you don't understand the magnitude of the problem. Start here [wikipedia.org], look at the numbers until you understand them, figure out how much your proposals would save/generate in income, and then come back to me. In fact I wish everyone who has a method for fixing the budget would do that. There are far too many dumb ideas out there that don't take reality into consideration. In short, the problem with your logic isn't a logic problem at all: it's that you spend too much time thinking and not enough time gathering data.
All taxes are regressive. The lie of the left is taxes can be progressive at all. Everyone pays all the taxes. Hiding taxes among the 'rich' doesn't help people realize this, as the taxes just get hidden, and passed down to the little guy in the form of higher prices, lower wages and so on.
And this is the lie of the rich: conflating "rich" with "businesses." We know what happens when taxes on the rich (not businesses, just the rich) go down: they save more. In President Bush's first term, the highest tax bracket went from 39.6% to 35%. The percentage of income the rich put into savings in the same time from went from 2.2% to 7.6%.
You want my solution to taxes, spending, and so on? It is simple. Vote on things you don't want society to promote, make it legal and tax those things. Legalize drugs, tax them. Legalize Prostitution, tax it. Legalize whatever you think is a "victimless crime" and tax the activity. You'll end up with far more revenue, far less crime (by definition) and the problems of society become controlled.
You can see this with Cigarettes. Legal, taxed to death, and we don't have nearly the problem with second hand smoke as we used to.
Now sin taxes, I fully agree with. I have no problem helping out the poor with more progressive mandatory taxes, but if they want to waste their extra money on en
All I know is my state's law (Wisconsin) - basically, with most online sales it is the burden of the purchaser to report the purchases/sales taxes of items bought on the internet at the end of the year with your state income tax filing. However, I believe if you maintain a brick & mortar business in the state then it becomes the burden of the business to file the taxes (probably because they already must pay in their state taxes).
Unfortunately, there is no good solution with state sales taxes. If you put the burden on the purchaser, then the state will have to scrutinize every citizen (which is not practical/possible) - but this problem doesn't go away if you require businesses to collect them. There are thousands of small retailers who would have to file forms with every state they sold in, and the individual states would have to scrutinize every online business for sales (also not practical/possible).
Hmmm... maybe if we did away with a sales tax and made it a disposal tax....
Technically, Texas has a use tax as well which is identical to the sales tax. Unlike other states, though, we don't have an income tax, and the state constitution makes it practically impossible to impose one. So most Texans don't end up paying the use tax because we have no paperwork to file for income tax, which is how most states collect it.
Texas sales tax is also tricky because the state collects a 6.25% sales tax, and other governmental entities (such as the City of Houston and METRO, the Houston-are
These tax breaks are the great folly of our time. They can bring in a large-looking number of jobs to an area and make a politician look good for a limited amount of time, then the companies bail and often the taxpayers got very little for their money.
It's amazing that everyone thinks that big business is what drives jobs. That's a joke. The real job growth comes with small business. Big businesses will soon just be only the elite people at the top ordering all their stock from the 3rd world sweatshops. They aren't going to save the economy of the U.S. Why aren't we spending our money to support these small businesses that actually care about their communities instead of giving these huge breaks to companies that will leave at the drop of a hat. My guess it all has to do with who have the most lobbyists.
The article doesn't say what the nature of the dispute is -- is Texas asking for use-tax owed by all Texas purchasers that were shipped from that warehouse? Tax for all Texas purchasers shipped from any warehouse? Tax for all purchases from that warehouse?
If they are asking for taxes owed by all Texas purchasers, I think Texas has a point -- Amazon has a presence in their state, so probably should be collecting sales tax. Though I'm sure Amazon feels differently. I thought Amazon only put distribution cente
Last I checked, that makes Amazon tax evaders. They broke the law, and are now fugitives from justice. So I assume the state of Washington will be aggressively tracking them down and extraditing them to Texas for trial. Or maybe the state of New York will seize their assets on Wall St to pay the bill. Or maybe the feds will be getting involved and garnishing their profits.
Oh, wait. Sorry. That would be if a real person didn't pay a $269,000 tax bill. This is a corporation not paying a $269,000,000 tax bill, so they might get a slap on the wrist.
With millions being added to the US debt in minutes now I wonder how long it will take for foreign countries to stop extending credit. Will it be when the debt to gdp ratio reaches over 100% (it's currently 97%) meaning we have about as much debt as product. US governments at all levels are currently bankrupt and it's companies like Amazon, Google and others that are the only thing that's left of the US, they can basically foreclose and take over the US government unpunished.
We actually went up to 120% back during WWII.
As to who's fault it is that we're inching back up to those kind of levels, I'll refer you to this graph [wikipedia.org].
They way that sales taxes are collected are really a pain for any online business.
The sales tax varies not just state by state but even county by county. And for an online order where to you charge from? I work in one county and live in another. I if I buy something online at my office do they charge the sales tax of the place where I order or where it is delivered to?
What about when I use my cell phone and I am on vacation and I buy an app or a song?
Should it use the GPS and decide?
If I buy a gift for my mother in law from Amazon should I pay Florida or Texas sales tax?
Sales tax and online sales just don't work well. And if it is a pain for someone like Amazon which probably could deal with it but a nightmare for any small company trying to do business on the internet.
And States do what they can to attract corporations not merely because of whatever tax revenue they can bring in but all the other things they bring. Corporations draw in an educated labor pool. That means more people spending money locally, paying taxes and generally improving the quality of life. And the fact is, for a lot of companies setting up a corporate office is a big commitment, so usually they're in it for the long haul.
A perfect case study is the city where I live. All the neighboring cities are booming because they keep attracting companies. My city despite being centrally located for a lot of people has struggled for years because of ineptitude and corruption. They proclaim victory every time some second-rate retailer or some small-time industrial company opens up shop. But all they do is keep drawing from the same unskilled labor and keep getting screwed when many of these businesses fold or move out within a few years.
So there's a real incentive to keep Amazon around.
I find it amusing that there are those claiming Amazon hasn't paid it's share when it's us, the consumers, who have benefited from this. No one who's bought anything on Amazon has had to pay sales tax. However, if states force Amazon into paying sales taxes then rest assured we will be the ones paying them, not Amazon. The only expense Amazon will incur is from the extra work involved in handling sales tax. It's not like we're talking about tax dodging here; if that had been the case I'd be totally behind screwing them to the fullest extent of the law.
Amazon's prices have been going up for a few years now and in many cases they aren't much better than retail. Outside of hard-to-find items a sales tax would erase any real advantage they currently enjoy.
I can appreciate the value sales taxes provide. However, States also love to device all kinds of schemes to squeeze a bit more money from individuals and businesses. Back when I had my own business I got to learn about the world of charging sales tax for services. It was completely arbitrary what was assessed sales tax and what wasn't. It was very clear that certain industries were able to successfully lobby for no sales tax.
TX Gov. Rick Perry wants to succeed anyway. The state he bragged (a typical texas behavior, I know, was born and raised there but I got out) was doing so well.
If Texas succeeds the U.S. will save a lot of money after we close the ~15 military bases there, rescind the federal subsidies going to (partial list to make the point): the oil drilling/wells/pumping, processing facilities, natural gas facilities, major airline hubs, highways and roads!, schools, universities and colleges, and god knows what else.
Corporations are greedy. Amazon should buck up, pay the stupid tax and find another way to play after that.
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I am the 2013 head of the Lake Placid Holiday Decorating Committee. It has prompted me to anticipate the wonderful lights that grace our village each year.
As a child, Christmas decorations were very traditional. Our tree was decorated on Christmas Eve. Big red ribbons and garlands of greens decked the halls, and a single candle was placed in each window.
After college, I lived in Manhattan for several years and the windows of the stores and the general disposition of the city was magical for the weeks between Thanksgiving and Christmas.
When I moved to Houston, Texas, I was in for a shock. I was surrounded by homes and neighborhoods that exemplified the phrase "everything is bigger in Texas."
I was discussing my simple childhood memories verses the traditions of extreme Texas holiday decorations and a wise friend said simply, "Decorations are for the children."
This season, when you see a small tree within someone's home or a simple wreath on a door or an elaborate display, please remember each decoration is to celebrate the holidays.
Have fun, and turn on the lights! We will choose a few for awards, but in my estimation, all are winners and I thank you for making the holidays brighter and more festive for the child within each of us.
The judging will be Dec. 2 to Dec. 6 from 4 to 9 p.m.
Faith Bowie Brown
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Agriculture education instructor, Randy Nosbisch, presented a proposal for a greenhouse at the Emmetsburg school board meeting Wednesday evening. Nosbisch is hoping to improve the ag department and FFA organization by building a greenhouse on the high school property.
"My students would like to operate a greenhouse," said Nosbisch. "Those using the facility would be ag education students and/or FFA members. It would be a 21 foot wide by 48 foot long greenhouse that could be operated year round The three main types of plants we would focus on growing would be mums in the fall, poinsettias in the winter and then annual hanging baskets, flowers and starter vegetables in the spring and summer."
Nosbisch and his students feel the greenhouse would improve the quality of the education for the agriculture students. "There is a trend of increasing enrollment in agriculture courses. We could all use a place to learn the 21st century skills I would like to teach them," said Nosbisch.
Life responsibilities and SAE or "supervised agricultural experience" development would also gain from this project. "SAE is a component of FFA where students have projects, jobs or entrepreneurships where they apply what they learn in the classroom to the outside world. Some students may not have the opportunity to get a job or have a parent to hire them on the farm and this greenhouse would give them the opportunity to grow their own product and use that as their supervised agricultural experience."
The greenhouse hopes to increase the pride and agriculture education in the community as well. "Having something that my students take leadership and pride in can be conveyed to the community and they can see that there are positive things happening in ag education in Emmetsburg," said Nosbisch.
The possible greenhouse would be made of a double-poly material and steel frame with a thermostat to automatically control ventilation. "If it's too hot in the greenhouse, fans will decrease the heat and allow the ventilation to go through which will allow crops to be grown inside all year round," said Nosbisch. "Currently in my classroom, we have a cattle tank filled up with dirt with a hydroponic light. We have tried to grow plants in there but have not been successful due to quality."
The proposed site would be by the bus barn on the west side. An estimate of $35,691 was given for the project. FFA fundraising would pay for a quarter of the initial costs. The school would cover the remainder with a partial repayment plan in place to pay back what was gifted to them through plant sales.
"In real life, we have notes and debts and if you wanted to have an actual business, you would have payments. I feel that is appropriate," said Nosbisch. The volume of sales would not be large enough to take away from any area businesses. Vegetables could potentially be grown for use in the lunchroom as well with proper sanitation and food safety precautions.
"This could restore the pride in future agriculture education in the community. I feel Emmetsburg is very strong in agricultural industry and the students behind me today are the future. I believe my students would stay around Emmetsburg if they feel they have good opportunities in agriculture and I can show them those through the greenhouse and getting outside the four walls of my classroom," said Nosbisch.
"You'd be surprised how many students do not know how to work in a garden or produce their own vegetables" said Nosbisch. "Those are life skills that they can use down the road."
Construction would potentially begin over the summer so it is ready for use in the fall. "I would love to have a sale in the fall. I would like to get it going as fast as possible," said Nosbisch.
Nosbisch will obtain estimates for monthly ongoing fees. "I think it's a great idea. We just need to find out a few things before we can actually act on it," said board member, Scott Kibbie.
Board member, Rick Brennan, brought up fundraising in the community. "Have you done any fundraising with ag businesses in the community?" asked Brennan. "I can't speak for any of them but I think this is a project that's training our youth to be involved in ag industries. You may find some support out there but I think the school should be involved in at least half of this cost."
"April 20, we'll know where we are with West Elementary bids," said superintendent John Joynt. That will determine if we have any projects. If bids come in low, we will have the opportunity to do more projects."


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PITTSBURGH, Dec. 17, 2012 /PRNewswire/ -- The Board of Directors of MSA (NYSE: MSA) has elected Stacy McMahan to the newly created position of Senior Vice President of Finance. In this capacity, Ms. McMahan will serve as an officer of the company and join MSA's Executive Leadership Team, responsible for leading the company's Internal Audit, Treasury and Global Decision Support functions. Ms. McMahan's position was created as part of the company's ongoing management succession process.
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New to the company, Ms. McMahan comes to MSA with more than 23 years of finance leadership experience, most recently serving as Vice President of Finance, Customer Channels Group, for Thermo Fisher Scientific, Inc. Prior to this, she spent six years with Johnson & Johnson as Vice President of Finance, and 16 years with Eli Lilly, where she served in a treasury oriented position in Brussels, Belgium; as Finance Manager in Basingstoke Hampshire, UK; and in a CFO role in Sydney, Australia.
"We are delighted to have Stacy join our executive leadership team," said Dennis Zeitler, MSA Chief Financial Officer. "Stacy brings to MSA an exceptional skill set of global financial experience, with particular expertise in operational finance and driving cost management initiatives. She also has experience in driving Enterprise Resource Planning (ERP) implementations across Europe, and those skills align very well with our own Europe 2.0 initiative, which is underway now and being implemented to align our European operations under one common ERP platform."
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MILLIGAN COLLEGE, Tenn. – The King University women's swimming & diving team took on local rival Milligan College on Wednesday evening and they came away with their third victory of the season. The Tornado took a 100-93 decision from the home standing Buffaloes.
The Tornado took first in six events while finishing second in five others. The duo of Nicole Maldonado and Jade Schroeder turned in 1-2 performances in each the 200 meter freestyle and the 100 meter freestyle. Maldonado won both events with times of 2:14.91 in the 200 free and 1:00.14 in the 100 free while Schroeder posted times of 2:25.07 in the 200 free and 1:05.88 in the 100 free.
Olivia Langford finished first in three events, the 800 meter freestyle (9:53.55), the 200 meter individual medley (2:38.00) and the 400 meter freestyle with a time of 4:58.89. Kelsey Wiese accounted for the final first place finish, winning the 50 meter freestyle with a time of 28.49 seconds.
Wiese also finished second in the 100 meter backstroke with a time of 1:12.72 while Rachel Fuller took a pair of second place finishes. Fuller finished the 100 meter butterfly in 1:10.91 and the 400 meter freestyle in 5:07.89 to take second in both events.
King will be in action again on Saturday when they travel to Franklin Springs, Ga., to take on Emmanuel College. The meet is scheduled to start at 1:00 p.m.


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"In the event of a nuclear holocaust, the only survivors would be cockroaches and Keith Richards [keithrichards.com] ".
Personally at this point, I don't think anything can kill him....
Note: this is generally good advice anywhere.
You're not joking...but perhaps you should be. For critical mass, you're talking between 10kg of plutonium (Pu-239) to 80kg (Pu-242). That's a lot of Pu to have "leaked". Not impossible I suppose (in terms of volume, even a Pu-242 core is less than a foot in diameter), but even if there was 10kg of loose Plutonium in the grou
Gamma irradiator. Basically, big lead tube with a gamma source inside. You can't get it out. You can't expose the source to the outside world. There is a lead "airlock". You put the roach inside. Irradiate. Release. I went to a High School that had a gamma irradiator. We DID this experiment. Exposed roach to greater than 1000, but less than 10000 roentgens. We weren't real precise. But the roach lived long enough for us to decide we better squish it before it reproduced.
Oh, yes, "stuff doesn't glow when you expose it to radiation". Not 100% true. Some stuff DOES. Namely most crystals. One of the most impressive examples is Sodium Chloride. Yep, table salt. Irradiate it overnight. The gamma rays knock the electrons up to a higher energy level. But since salt has a very tight crystaline structure, they don't snap back down immediatly. Remove from irradiator, and over the course of the next 24 hours, it glows pretty brightly (bright as a glow stick) in a funky red-orange light (spectra of sodium). Eventually all the electrons snap back down to their ground state and it quits glowing. Not radioactive at any point while this is going on. The only thing it emits is red-orange photons which are not "radiation" by most people's standards. (Well it is, but ALL light is...)
And the cooling water in a reactor...
The blue glow comes when a particle is emited near the speed of light through air and hits the water. It momentarily exceeds the speed of light through water (allowed since it is not exceeding the speed of light in a vacuum), but has to slow down. Slowing down ditches energy which must go somwhere, a blue photon in this case.
AFAIK, the particles don't have to slow down. As you said it's not exceeding c and there's no physical law forcing it to be slowed down to the local speed of light. Cerenkov radiation is the optical/electromagnetic equivalent of a sonic boom, which is created by a plane traveling faster than the local speed of sound.
Of course, the energy in the light has to come from somewhere and the particle is slowed down eventually. However, there are many ways in which particles radiate by slowing down (e.g. sy
In a former life, I worked as an NDT technician. One of our biggest jobs was industrial radiography. Which, long story short, involves radioisotope cameras and lots of safety training. With an radiation safety expert, radiation alarms, survey meters, and proper equipment they'll be plenty safe.
The biggest problem for them would be to properly dose the cockroaches. What kinds and levels of radiation will they be receiving? Any clown can x-ray a roach until it dies, but what would the fallout profile of a world-ending nuclear war look like? What's the long-term effect of radioisotopes in their bodies? How much ionizing radiation will they receive?
There's alpha, beta, gamma, neutron... What kind of radiation are they going to use? Safety, while incredibly important for an experiment like this, is relatively easy to accomplish if they get an expert. Attacking the correct problem may prove far more troublesome.
But really the question is not that simple. Would you savagely murder one fluffy dog to save 100M people from a deadly virus? Would you savagely murder one human to save 100M people from a deadly virus? Would you savagely murder 1M humans to save 100M people from a deadly virus? Where is your threshold? I believe this is what Protectors of the Ringworld couldn't wrap their mind about.
That depends. Are you still beating your wife?So what is your criteria for what you will and won't murder ?
So, what precautions do they have on hand in the event one of them grows to enormous size and goes on a rampage?
If they have any sense at all, they'll irradiate wasps and centipedes as well to control them.
So, what precautions do they have on hand in the event one of them grows to enormous size and goes on a rampage?
Adam will whip up something out of a chainsaw, some mysterious plumbing he found at the junk jard, and a large tank of napthalene that he happened to have out back. The result will have a major design flaw but will spew flaming death anyway. The result will be bolted onto Jamie's customised vending machine robot. With the addition of about twelve wireless video cameras, the result will go out and kick ass. Adam will get overexcited.
Does that answer your question?
I don't know about the airlines, but I'd always assumed coach class was named so as a contraction of cockroach, since flying coach makes me feel like a cockroach.All the bugs will go back to San Francisco. But instead of flying, a Mythbusters employee is having to drive the bugs back. Airlines, it seems, don't like cockroaches on a plane.
I'm tired of all these muthaf**kin' cockroaches on this muthaf**kin' plane!!
...otherwise his mustache will become huge and go on a rampage!
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The Collaborative Legacy of Merce Cunningham
The Collaborative Legacy of Merce Cunningham exhibition reflects on the nature of the work between Merce Cunningham and the equally important artists, composers and designers with whom he created works, and upon his unique method of collaboration on these works "in space and time."
Seven of the works documented in The Collaborative Legacy are those by Cunningham and his collaborators, spanning from the early years of his company [Minutiae, 1954] to his last work [Nearly Ninety, 2009]. These dances coexisted in time and space with "open-ended sound scores" by John Cage, David Tudor, and Andrew Culver [Ocean] and music by Gavin Bryars, and more environmental art works by Robert Rauschenberg [Antic Meet and Minutiae], Jasper Johns [Walkaround Time], Andy Warhol [Rainforest], and the team of Paul Kaiser and Shelley Eshkar of OpenEnded Group [BIPED]. The seven works give a sense of the varying degrees to which Cunningham's dancers mingled in a shared space with volumetric elements, or, as in Nearly Ninety, co-existed as discreet events occurring on stage.
As a complement and counterpoint to these seven Cunningham collaborations, the exhibition documents seven collaborations between subsequent generations of choreographers with architects, revealing just the tip of the iceberg of this architectural "type." More to the point, these other works reveal the diverse approaches to "content" and methods of collaborating in space and time.
Beth Weinstein, the exhibit's curator, is a registered architect whose spatial practice focuses on collaborative performance projects in and out of proscenium space. Through her scholarship and practice, she focuses on sites of intersection between architectural and choreographic practices, ranging from the scale of the drawing board to urban space and landscapes. Beth studied design at Syracuse University (BFA) and earned a Master of Architecture from Columbia University. Prior to forming her own practice, Architecture Agency, she was a project architect in the Paris office of Jean Nouvel. She is currently an Assistant Professor at the University of Arizona.
Jaafar Chalabi, studied architecture in Vienna, Austria and at the University of Maryland and received a PhD in Architecture and Movement. He is a lecturer for housing and spatial design at the University of Technology, Vienna, and a guest professor at the Ecole d'Architecture de Versailles, Versailles, France.


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Kansas winning the Big 12 regular season title wasn't a surprise, considering that the Jayhawks have won eight consecutive league championships. What was a surprise was KU battling its way to the national championship game before falling to top-seeded Kentucky, 67-59. Double-double machine Thomas Robinson and dynamic point guard Tyshawn Taylor must be replaced but this year's team will be an intriguing mix of four seniors along with a talented group of freshmen.
Coach: Bill Self, 269-53 in nine seasons at Kansas.
Last season: 32-7 overall, 16-2, 1st in Big 12.
NCAA Tournament: Lost championship game to Kentucky.
Top players
Senior center Jeff Withey (9 ppg, 6.3 rpg; 140 blocked shots), senior guard Elijah Johnson (10.2 ppg, .338 3FG%, team-high 69 3-pointers), senior guard Travis Releford (8.5 ppg, 4.2 rpg), senior forward Kevin Young, junior forward Justin Wesley, freshman forward Perry Ellis, freshman guard Ben McLemore, freshman forward Jamari Taylor, freshman guard Rio Adams, freshman guard Andrew White.
Coach Self says
"We have great experience with our senior class that's been through a lot of battles, and we have a lot of puppies. Seven freshmen, so I think it will be a good team in time. I don't think that we'll be great early. I think we have a process that we have to go through. But I do think there is some talent, and I do like the possibilities of us competing hopefully for another championship."
Kansas advanced to its 14th Final Four last season and reached the championship game for the 9th time. ... KU's eight consecutive Big 12 titles is the longest stretch in a major conference since UCLA won 13 straight titles from 1967-79. Kansas has won 55 conference titles, the most in NCAA history. ... Kansas has won 197 games over the last 6 years, the most victories over a 6-year span in NCAA history. ... Senior center Jeff Withey set a Big 12 record with 140 blocks overall and 65 blocks in conference games. He also set an NCAA record with 31 blocks in 6 Tournament games. ... Kansas averaged 73.5 points per game last season. Three departed players - Thomas Robinson, Tyshawn Taylor and Conner Teahan - combined to average 39.8 points per game.
Season opener
Nov. 9 vs. Southeast Missouri State
Top nonconference games
Nov. 13 vs. Michigan State
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Nov. 30 vs. Oregon State
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yeah, they are playing because they need the money :/
yeah, they are playing because they need the money :/
love the artists in their original bands but but not really doing anything for me
I am gonna hold out hope that Page and Plant come out and push Josh Homme off the stage.
just because they are a super group doesn't mean the make good music
I don't know if you guys actually know what music is. Because there album was definitely one of the best of 2009.
And I have seen live videos and they kick ass.
Rule #5.
You guys are complete idiots, " no one loves you neither do I" is. One of the best sounding rock songs out there...simply respect the fact that these guys got together and decided to jam, and they are willing to perform live....
it's all too generic sounding
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Neil Young - Kanye West - Beck - PJ Harvey - The Knife - Basement Jaxx - Tom Waits - Shpongle (Live) - Flying Lotus (Live) - The Avalanches - Autechre - Eels - Fat Freddy's Drop - Liquid Liquid - OFWGKTA - Freddie Gibbs - Big K.R.I.T. - Phantogram - Christian Scott - Nosaj Thing - Gold Panda - James Blake
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I saw them @ ACL and it was alright, great to see JPJ, and Grohl on drums but I'll probably catch something different @ Coachella.
Trust me, if you remotely like QOTSA or the TCV album, this is a show you want to see. JPJ breaks out at least 10 different instruments..
but then again less peeps means more room for me..on second thought they are going to blow and I wouldn't leave the Heinekin tent for em.
Maybe Audioslave and Velvet Revolver will come out and all you record label whores can show your nasty tits!!!!
I freakin' love TCV's album. Not at all generic, in fact the perfect combination of QOTSA, Foo and Led Zep....little bits of those bands popping up in all the songs.
I agree that they really weren't very good on SNL BUT I find most bands aren't when playing on shows such as SNL, Late night, etc, the sound is shit and when it's a rock band, they really aren't allowed to rock out that much. The vocals are too loud, the guitar is turned down, it's really just a mess on TV.
I have friends who just say TCV in New Zealand and they said they were amazing. That's enough for me. Can't wait to hear Reptiles and Gunmen live!
My first novel, Darkhouse, has been published and is available here on Amazon. It has nothing to do with Coachella. Or vampires.
"Scumbag Blues" is NPR's Song of the Day http://bit.ly/tcv_npr
The show last night was ridiculous. They played the whole album and another song I didn't recognize. Seeing Dave play drums for the first time was cool too. Scumbag Blues was the first song where they really do any improvisation, so when JPJ did a little bass fill the crowd went crazy and he kind of laughed.
All the Saints opened and it seemed like pretty much the best day of their lives. Opening for a couple legendary guys in their own city. Dave Grohl probably has more houses than they have songs.
I'd definitely love to see them again.
This band is pretty cool. Can't wait to see Dave Grohl playing drums again + JPJ.
Yes, it is a super group... Yes, some of the members may be over rated... However! TCV is an awesome band that sounds like nothing else out there right now. Their album was amongst the best and most listened to by me in the past few months. Them Crooked Vultures!!!! Can't wait to see their live set.
"Few are those who see with their own eyes and feel with their own hearts" -Albert Einstein
If you played this album for me and told me it was anyone but QOTSA, I would have punched you in the neck and called you a liar. I mean, it sounds waayyy too much like QOTSA. Lucky for me, I love them. So, yea, cant wait for this show.
8/7/16 - Sufjan Stevens @ Hollywood Bowl // 8/8/16 - Radiohead @ Shrine // 8/8/16 - Boris @ Regent
9/14/16 - Wilco @ Theatre at Ace Hotel // 9/18/16 - Kraftwerk @ Hollywood Bowl
Let's see how they sound on Austin City Limits. They are on that show February 13th, tomorrow night, PBS.
listening to the ACL show now. i'm digging it. and, it's great to see Alain Johannes again (so miss Eleven). i understand the QOTSA comparisons...nearly impossible not to sound like them with Mr. Homme at the helm, ya know. but, a big difference is the drumming. props to grohl here but he ain't no joey castillo.
but, hey....how fucking good does JPJ look!? (not gay for him; just one geezer appreciating how another is aging...rock on, John)
I saw them play here in Portland back in November and the show was great. They played the entire album. Fantastic show, I would definitely recommend checking them out.


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By Michael Aneiro
BlackRock fixed-income chief Rick Rieder says this morning's disappointing December jobs report underscores the structural nature of an unemployment situation that's beyond the control of the Federal Reserve.
"My view on unemployment is structural – you can't fix it with quantitative easing," Rieder tells Barron's today. He said the disappointing number of jobs added can't all be blamed on bad December weather, and that the labor force participation rate keeps dropping. "It means you have an economy that's growing faster, and you don't need people because of technology…. You've got all this economic data that's strong but you don't need people to do it."
Rieder says the most disappointing aspect of the report was the net loss of 16,000 construction jobs, which went against what ADP had reported earlier this week as well as the 19,000 in construction jobs gained in November. He says he'll be most closely focusing on construction jobs and temporary hiring in subsequent reports.
Rieder said he thinks the Fed has to keep tapering and doing so at a measured pace, given that the unemployment rate is now below the Fed's onetime 7% threshold for ending its stimulus, and that the focus will shift toward forward guidance on the Fed's short-term policy rate as Janet Yellen takes the helm.
"I think that Janet Yellen is aggressive about forward guidance," Rieder said, meaning the Fed won't raise rates anytime soon. "I think what we're looking toward is going to be more and more focused on inflationary expectations."
As for the bond market, Rieder says the ten-year Treasury range "has to come down" for now from what might have been 3-3.25% if the jobs report had been strong to something more like 2.75% to 3%. The ten-year yield recently stood at 2.887%, down from 2.973% before the jobs report's release, per Tradeweb data.


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Viking River Cruises, which has expanded at an unprecedented rate, is upping the ante even further. The company announced in September that it is increasing its order for Longships in 2014 from 12 to 14 vessels. Viking cited unprecedented consumer demand as the driving force behind the decision and said it is placing the 14 new ships on its most popular itineraries in Europe. By the end of next year, the line will have introduced a total of 30 new ships in a three-year period.
"We are working hard to match supply with demand, and with these new builds, we have the best designed, newest and most extensive offer of ships on the rivers — more than double all our competitors combined," said chairman and CEO Torstein Hagen. "More than ever, travelers want experiences that bring them closer to the destination, which is why we continue to design ships and itineraries with destinations and enrichment as the focus."
According to CLIA research released in January, river cruising has been growing at an average annual rate of approximately nine percent. Within this segment, Viking has seen an average growth of 22 percent per year.
In March, the line set a world record with the inauguration of 10 new Longships for the 2013 sailing season, in a first-of-its-kind simultaneous christening ceremony in Amsterdam. The company now reports its most successful season yet, with more than 90 percent of all available staterooms sold during the spring and summer months and record sales for the holiday sailings.
Viking's Longship design was created by Petter Yran and Bjorn Storbratten, who have created newbuilds for Seabourn, Cunard and Disney, among others, and the ambience onboard is very close to that of the most recent Seabourn ships — exceptionally light and airy.
Features such as multiple dining venues are very popular, and the indoor/outdoor Aquavit Terrace with its retractable floor-to-ceiling glass doors is a real magnet for guests, who enjoy drinks and very inventive light fare from pasta to salads and breads.
By dramatically reducing noise and vibration with hybrid engines, Viking is able to use more areas of the ship for accommodations. The 190 passengers on Viking's Longships have the benefit of a patented design that shifts the interior hallway a meter off center and pivots the floor plan for some of the staterooms. This allows the ships to have 205-square-foot staterooms with verandas as well as seven 270-square-foot veranda suites that have two rooms each, with a full-size veranda in the living room and a French balcony in the bedroom.
Each Longship also has two 445-square-foot Explorer Suites, with a separate living room, bedroom and wraparound veranda. In addition, there are 39 Veranda Staterooms and 22 French Balcony Staterooms on each Longship. Stateroom amenities include heated bathroom floors, Sony high-definition televisions and L'Occitane bath products. In-room entertainment systems offer music, enrichment, movies and television.
Additionally, all Longships have green features such as onboard solar panels and organic herb gardens that supply the tables in the open seating main dining rooms.
Hagen has stated that he expects to have 100 river ships in service by 2020, a goal that includes bringing a larger, five-deck version of the Longship design carrying 340-passengers to the Mississippi. Current operations include river cruises in Europe, Russia, Asia and Egypt.
The company is also expanding into seagoing cruising with its first luxury newbuild, the 928-passenger Viking Star, scheduled to begin operation in April as the first vessel of the new Viking Ocean Cruises line. Viking has a sister ship scheduled for 2016, and there are six more similar vessels in the pipeline.


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Christie, Legislature Pay Tribute To DeCroce [VIDEO]
Gov. Chris Christie has eulogized a legislative leader instead of delivering his annual State of the State address during an appearance before a joint session of the Legislature.
Christie appeared before the Legislature on Tuesday, a day after Assembly Minority Leader Alex DeCroce collapsed and died at the Statehouse on the last day of the 214th session.
He told lawmakers the Republican leader died "doing what he loved, serving the people of New Jersey" but that "does not lessen the pain."
The Assembly observed a moment of silence for DeCroce as the lawmakers were sworn in earlier Tuesday for a new term. Bagpipes played before the ceremony as a bouquet of flowers sat on the late legislator's empty desk.
DeCroce, 75, died after a busy night of voting that closed out the 214th legislative session. Assemblyman Herb Conaway, the Legislature's only physician, said DeCroce had complained during the day of arm pain and feeling ill. He said he and state troopers tried unsuccessfully to revive the Morris County lawmaker, administering CPR.
"He served admirably for many years and he will certainly be missed," Conaway said.
"Tonight I lost a dear friend, colleague and mentor -– Assembly Republican Leader Alex De Croce," Governor Chris Christie said in a prepared statement. "I have known Alex for nearly 20 years," the governor said. "He helped to give me my start in elective politics in Morris County in 1993. This is an enormous loss for our state and for me personally."
DeCroce, of Parsippany-Troy Hills, served in the Assembly since 1989 and became the GOP's leader there in 2003. His district includes parts of Morris and Passaic counties.
AcDeCroce was born in Morristown in 1936 and graduated from Boonton High School before attending Seton Hall. DeCroce was selected to fill a vacancy and sworn in to his Assembly seat 1989. He was elected to his first full term in November of that year.
The Bergen Record says DeCroce attended Seton Hall University and worked as a realtor for ERA Gallo & DeCroce, his website said. Among the committees he was recently serving on were the Bipartisan Leadership Committee, where he served as the co-chairman, and the Legislative Services Commission.
DeCroce was a Morris County Freeholder from 1984 to 1989 and served on both the Morris County Tax Board and Board of Elections, according to his legislative biography. He was also the chairman of the County College of Morris Board of Trustees.
Among his achievements, DeCroce sponsored a law that renewed the state Transportation Trust Fund, dedicated motor fuels tax for transportation projects, and amended the state Constitution to protect and strengthen the rights of crime victims, his biography said.
DeCroce was a trustee of the Craftsman Farms Foundation, a member of Rotary International, and an honorary board member of the New Jersey Crime Victims' Law Center. He was also a member of several Chambers of Commerce.
The Associated Press, Kevin McArdle, Dino Flammia & Dan Alexander all contributed to this report.


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When Kobe Bryant recently met with Dwight Howard to convince him to stay with the Lakers, Bryant said his expectations weren't very high.
"I really didn't know what to expect to be honest with you," Bryant said Wednesday at his summer camp in Santa Barbara. "I walked in there and everybody's sitting down and everybody's quiet, I don't know what the hell is going on. Everybody is just really ... serious. It was really pretty funny to me."
Bryant didn't go into detail about what they discussed, but he said they had a "good conversation."
"I don't know if he was leaning one way or another, I don't know," Bryant said of Howard.
When Howard announced that he was going to leave the Lakers, Bryant unfollowed the center on Twitter.
"Listen man, it's just me, that's just how I am," Bryant said. "That's just how I am. I have a hard time following people that want to beat us. Not to say that we're not friends or I don't respect him or anything like that."
In fact, Bryant said he doesn't harbor any resentment against Howard for choosing Houston.
"I'm happy for him," Bryant said. "I've said that before. I'm happy for him. It's important for free agents to make decisions that they feel are best for them, that's really what it's all about. When you're a free agent, you have to make decisions that are best for you, best for your family and best for your brand, whatever it may be. It is what it is."
Not many people decide to leave the Lakers, and Bryant didn't want to guess why the center chose to.
"You really think once a guy decides to go somewhere else I'm going to waste my time trying to figure out why that happened?"
Steve Nash, on the other hand, put some thought into why Howard left, recently telling ESPN 710 that he didn't think he was comfortable with the team.
"Steve is the quintessential teammate," Bryant said. "Steve takes that stuff to heart. I really don't care."
In addition to talking about Howard, Bryant took a few moments to talk about his Achilles' injury and rehabilitation.
"It's good, progressing a bit faster than everybody expected," Bryant said.
Bryant said this injury is different than any challenge he's ever encountered.
"For me, there has been a lot of emotional things that you have to bounce back from, but never something this serious from a physical standpoint."
He said his movement is limited, but he expects to be more active with conditioning in August.
"I could shoot right now, but we just don't trust that the tendon's holding yet. Typically it's four months minimum until it the tendon is holding and it's not going to overstretch. So we'll just wait."
As for what the Lakers need to do to become a championship-caliber team once again, Bryant said it's about plugging holes.
"I feel like length, speed, was an issue for us, being able to cover ground," Bryant said. "If we could get a couple of guys who have that length and the ability to cover ground on the defensive end of the floor, I think we'll be all right."
Considering Bryant's injury and Howard's decision to leave L.A., some people are chalking up next season as a wasted year and looking forward to 2014 when the Lakers will have about $50 million in salary cap space.
Bryant, of course, is not among them. "We have no shot," he said, sarcastically.
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Just how Aussie are you? Do you wake up with a Vegemite sandwich in hand? Do you spend your spare time perfecting your backyard cricket skills? Is one of your favourite pastimes wrestling crocodiles?
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In January, Republican Senator Scott Brown and Democratic challenger Elizabeth Warren promised to keep outside groups out of their high-stakes Senate fight. Their pact specifically blocked super PACs, nonprofits, and other third-party groups from funding television, radio, or Internet ads on the candidates' behalf. If either Brown or Warren is the beneficiary of such ads, that candidate must pay a financial penalty to charity.
Now, Crossroads GPS — a group backed by Republican consultant Karl Rove — is running robocalls in Massachusetts that attack Warren, in hopes of helping Brown. Since the candidates' vow says nothing about mailings or phone calls, these ominous telephone messages do not technically violate the "People's Pledge" signed by Brown and Warren. But surely they violate its spirit.
One of the Rove-backed robocalls, according to a transcript posted by Mother Jones, suggests that Warren's support for President Obama's health care law could limit Medicare eligibility — even though the law says nothing of the sort. Another call criticizes Warren's management of a watchdog panel that monitored the federal bank bailout.
The goal of the pledge was to keep the Brown-Warren race focused on issues and hold each side accountable for its advertising. It set Massachusetts apart from the rest of the country, where outside groups are pouring millions into attack ads.
However, even in Massachusetts, the promise is fraying. Each campaign filed recent complaints accusing the other of collaborating with third-party groups. The AFL-CIO sent out anti-Brown fliers. The League of Conservation Voters is sending canvassers door to door against Brown. Now, robocalls cross into new and darker territory, putting the pledge in further jeopardy. Both candidates should tell super PACs and other third-party groups their interference isn't welcome — whether in ads, in fliers, or over the phone.


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Culinary Arts
Associate of Applied Science
About the Program
The Culinary Arts program begins with basic theory and techniques of food production and service. Building on these basics, the program then develops advanced culinary techniques as well as skills in menu planning, purchasing, cost control, and food service supervision through a combination of lecture, demonstration, and extensive hands-on experience.
Graduates of the Culinary Arts program are qualified for advanced positions in food preparation and service in both commercial and institutional establishments, including full-service restaurants, hotels, supper and private clubs, colleges, hospitals, and delis.
Culinary arts professionals are trained to produce safe, healthful, and creative food for all segments of the food service industry. They may handle one type of specialized food preparation or be responsible for preparing all the foods served in a given establishment. They may also plan menus, control costs, purchase food supplies, and/or supervise other personnel. This occupational field is growing rapidly and provides a wide variety of career opportunities.
Financial Aid Eligible
This program is eligible for financial aid. Please contact the Financial Aid Office for further details.
Top of the Hill - Student-Run Dining Room
As part of their learning curriculum, Students of the Culinary program offer unique and delicious food for students, staff, and community members during the Spring Semester of each year.
Lunches are served Monday through Thursday from 11 am – 12:15 pm at the Top of the Hill Dining Room located in the Northwoods Center. Food items are also available through their Grab 'n Go Deli, also in the Northwoods Center.
Please call 715.365.4466 or ext 1042 (on campus) for more information or to make a reservation.
Possible Careers
- Line Cook
- Sous Chef
- Assistant Chef
- Specialty Cook (Banquet)
- Assistant Pastry Chef
- Kitchen Manager
- Caterer
- Culinary Educator
- Deli Manager
- Food Manager
- Food Demonstrator
- Personal Chef
- Research Chef
- Food Writer
- Food Photographer
- Food Purveyor
- Food Service Sanitarian
Program Outcomes
- Apply safety and sanitation codes to conditions and operations in food service kitchens.
- Prepare recipes and formulas to industry standards.
- Apply basic food theory to solve problems in food preparation.
- Use nutritional principles in recipe development and preparation.
- Produce creative menus for buffet, a` la carte, and catered events.
- Supervise food service operations using prescribed management theories and techniques.
- Integrate purchasing principles and food cost controls into menus.
- Demonstrate attributes of a professional culinarian.


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Reunion and open house set for Feb. 20
To celebrate National Career and Technical Education Month, the Davis H. Hart Career Center in Mexico is holding its first annual Alumni Reunion/Open House. Food, tours and videos of memories captured will be shared. HCC alumni, current students and the public are encouraged to attend.
The administration is excited and HCC students are amped about the idea. Mexico High School students along with students from area sending schools, will serve as ambassadors, tour guides, and have activities going on in classrooms.
"When our alumni come, they will see something more than just bricks and a building," said Hart Career Center Director, Dr. Mickie L. Shank. "We have about 60 students coming to serve and give tours, and we'll have hotdogs, hamburgers and lots of things to share."
Shank said the idea for the reunion came out of a faculty meeting held earlier this year.
"We were talking about what we could do to get the community more involved (with HCC)," Shank said. "We know that we have some very, very proud alumni and that the center was key in their life and success. So, we kind of brainstormed and came up with the reunion."
The reunion is scheduled Wednesday, Feb. 20, from 5-8 p.m. at the Hart Career Center.
"We want people to come and reunite, and share their positive feelings. We also hope that the people that were in common programs will bump into each other and talk," Shank said. She said MHS students from Jami Williams' class plan to video the event and record testimonies from any alumni willing to share their Hart Career Center experience.
"We're hoping to learn from the alumni and also encourage their involvement with the center. They can sit on the advisory committee, give advice about a program, mentor a student in a program, or offer ideas for future job shadowing. There are so many things here they can do."
Shank said the reunion will give the administration and HCC students the chance to tell what the vocational center is all about.
"We know that many people do not understand what goes on in our program, and this reunion will allow us to show them. We will also be able to use their testimonies in our marketing materials," Shank said.
The Davis H. Hart Vocational Technical School opened in 1968, offering a variety of programs to the community and secondary students from eight mid-Missouri area schools. The name has since been changed to the Hart Career Center.
HCC programs provide entry level skills and training in technical and service job areas that are in demand in today's economy. Classes provide preliminary skills and training for other technical fields such as engineering, computer networking, healthcare and other careers. Secondary students receive high school credit for their career center classes. Many of the classes offer articulated college credits as well. Certificates are awarded for satisfactory completion of each program. Programs offered today include: Automotive Technology; Ag Machinery and Diesel Technology; Cosmetology; Health Occupations; Welding Technology; Occupational Child Care; Computer and Network Support; Graphic Arts Occupations; Website Design and Computer Programming and more.
HCC students also participate and compete in Skills-USA on the local, district, state and national levels. "There are two things we hope to accomplish," Shank said. "Obviously, we want people to come and reunite, because that gives such a good feeling and allows us to see people who have come through the program that we haven't stayed in touch with.
"It also offers us the opportunity to gain positive feedback and learn from those that attend." Shank said each of the HCC programs will also have SkillsUSA officers and representatives in the rooms sharing what they do in their programs.
"We'd love to see a lot of people turn out. We're going to have fun no matter what," Shank said. "It's going to be an informal event, with the students taking visitors around, showing them what HCC is all about. We're hoping to learn a lot while the people are together. So, come on out and enjoy some good food and good conversation."
For more information, call the Hart Career Center at (573) 581-5684.


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Obama speech in Jax underscores battle over the economy
The tweet from Florida Republican Party Chairman Lenny Curry summed up the GOP challenge as President Obama travels to the port of Jacksonville on Thursday to tout the economy and underscore the plight of the middle class.
"@BarackObama in Jax on TH, but it's @FLGovScott who helped middle class w/JAXPORT $," Curry wrote.
In the last year, Florida Gov. Rick Scott and the Florida Legislature steered $38 million in state transportation money to help deepen a crucial port channel needed for large cargo ships. It is a loan to keep the project moving forward until the federal government completes the lengthy authorization process and starts writing the checks, port officials said.
The theme — steering credit for successes in the state's economy to the governor while blaming the president for holding it back — is going to be a recurring one for Curry as Scott seeks re-election in the next year.
But economists say that while Obama and Scott have played a role in the economic recovery, it is the Federal Reserve that deserves most of the credit. The federal monetary policy that has kept interests rates low has revved up Florida's stagnant housing market, provided a lift to the construction industry and helped to reduce unemployment, said two promiment state economists.
Consumers are more optimistic in Florida than they have been since the onset of the recession, said Chris McCarty, an economist at the University of Florida, and the reason is primarily the rise in housing prices. But can Scott or Obama take credit for the uptick in housing prices?
"Most people would argue the answer is no,'' he said. "Credit Ben Bernanke and the Federal Reserve." More here.


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Principles and Practice of Community Engagement
Units: 3
This course introduces students to foundations and principles of community development. With in-class learning from real-world case materials, principles are explored and applied in practice during a three-to-four-week service-learning field project/internship with a local nongovernmental organization (NGO) or development organization that addresses community need(s).
This course is offered only in international programs.