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I have a problem with my winAPI GUI I'm coding for my 2nd Year A-Level Computing coursework. I'm still trying to get my head around the winAPI stuff, and I'm sure It's a very simple problem I'm overlooking. The main form works fine, and just has a simple edit-box and button for testing, but when I close and open a new form, the new form takes on the characteristics I outlined in the CreateWindowEx() function (i.e a different size to the main form), but the problem is that it also contains the objects from the first form.
Here is the handle for the main form being initialised:
hwnd = CreateWindowEx ( 0, /* Extended possibilites for variation */ szClassName, /* Classname */ "Child-minding App", /* Title Text */ WS_OVERLAPPEDWINDOW, /* default window */ CW_USEDEFAULT, /* Windows decides the position */ CW_USEDEFAULT, /* where the window ends up on the screen */ 640, /* The programs width */ 480, /* and height in pixels */ HWND_DESKTOP, /* The window is a child-window to desktop */ NULL, /* No menu */ hThisInstance, /* Program Instance handler */ NULL /* No Window Creation data */ );
Here's the handle for the new form I'm opening:
hwndLogin = CreateWindowEx (0, szClassName, "Login Form", WS_OVERLAPPEDWINDOW, CW_USEDEFAULT, CW_USEDEFAULT, 640, 330, HWND_DESKTOP, NULL, hInst, NULL);
And here's an example of an object which appears on both forms
hwndButton = CreateWindowEx(0, /* more or ''extended'' styles */ TEXT("BUTTON"), /* GUI ''class'' to create */ TEXT("Push Me"), /* GUI caption */ WS_CHILD|WS_VISIBLE|BS_DEFPUSHBUTTON, /* control styles separated by | */ 10, /* LEFT POSITION (Position from left) */ 40, /* TOP POSITION (Position from Top) */ 200, /* WIDTH OF CONTROL */ 30, /* HEIGHT OF CONTROL */ hwnd, /* Parent window handle */ (HMENU)IDBUTTON, /* control''s ID for WM_COMMAND */ g_hInst, /* application instance */ NULL);
So just to clarify, when the hwnd form closes, and the hwndLogin form opens, the hwndLogin form also contains the button, wheras I on'y want the hwnd form to contain the button.
Can anyone see what I've done wrong?
(P.S. sorry if this is worded horribly.)


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I'm American and I need(!!) my morning coffee!! And I think your plan is fine. Having the instant on hand for their first morning or an emergency cup is nice, but it's fine to tell them that they can get "real" coffee around the corner.
Used to be and may still be available in Canada, not sure if they are available where you are:Coffee packets that are kind of like tea bags so one can brew one cup of coffee at a time. I've been told they are better than instant. If you can find those, great. If not, instant is fine and they can get brewed coffee elsewhere, if they wish.I'm not a coffee drinker, either, but I do frequently have guests who are. So I have a French press (Bodum is the brand name) that allows me to make coffee with grounds and boiling water. It makes a decent cup of coffee. But if you never have coffee drinking guests, it doesn't make sense for you to get one of these.
I'm an AMerican and I don't drink coffee at all. In the morning I am most likely to drink (skim) milk. I think I would ask them what they like and to the best of your ability provide it 0 without getting something like a coffee maker.
Quote from: O'Dell on August 02, 2012, 11:01:33 AMI'm American and I need(!!) my morning coffee!! And I think your plan is fine. Having the instant on hand for their first morning or an emergency cup is nice, but it's fine to tell them that they can get "real" coffee around the corner.This. I would never expect anyone to have coffee sitting around for me, especially if there's a Starbucks nearby. If I was one of the people staying with you, I would think that having instant coffee when you don't even drink coffee was thoughtful.
I wouldn't worry about it, for the following reasons:1) Instant coffee exists in America, so maybe they do drink that. 2) Not all Americans drink coffee anyway.3) People who love coffee might want a particular variety or way of making it, so anything you come up with might be wrong regardless. (eg I love very strong filter coffee, but don't like it much out of a cafetiere, and the coffee bags are way to weak for me. Bad coffee is worse than no coffee.)4) There is a Starbucks around the corner.
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Barack Obama and a bowl of chili: what's the link?
INTERNATIONAL PAPERS, Tuesday 7th September: What does Barack Obama get up to behind closed (White House) doors? Find out in today's International Herald Tribune. Also, South Africa's Mail and Guardian ask if an inquiry into the death of 34 minters will be useful, and the China Daily counts the cost of students going back to school - and it runs into thousands of euros!
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Marc Meadors and the Goodguys Racing team scored their second win of the season on August 15, taking the West Coast Outlaw Pro Mod class at Sacramento (California) Raceway's famed "Fox Hunt." When the final score was settled late Saturday night, Meadors had defeated all comers in what turned out to be the quickest and fastest qualified field in the history of West Coast Outlaw Pro Mod competition.
It was an old school victory for the team similar to those of the match race days when teams barnstormed drag strips across the country, blowing in during the morning, qualifying and taking the event win at night. Meadors made his one and only qualifying run Saturday around lunchtime, unloading a career best 6.275 at 231.97 to qualify fourth. Post-run inspection yielded a burned up transmission requiring a lengthy pit thrash prior to opening round eliminations, which Meadors survived by pedaling his way to a 6.718 victory over a red-lighting Bob Bunker Jr.
Using the alternate transmission, which threw off the tune completely due to different gear ratios, Meadors yet again escaped with a semi-final victory, pedaling down track to defeat the '55 Chevy of Jay Deidrich. In the final, Meadors' big silver Camaro emerged victorious as Scott Bailey instantly lost traction at the start of the race, giving Meadors an easy victory. He again pedaled all the way down track to post a final round time of a 6.950 at 187.093 for the second win of his Pro Mod career.
In similar fashion to his last Sacramento Raceway outing back in July, Meadors got the jump on his competition off the line with superior reaction times each elimination round.
"The Goodguys Racing Team keeps growing and growing this year," Meadors said. "We didn't have the right tune-up on the car after blowing the transmission. But I'm working hard on the tree and it's paid off. My crew chiefs, Jason Bunker and Jeff Accacian, with crew member Andy Fereira, worked together the best they could to patch it up and get me to the starting line and we prevailed. In racing you have to catch some lucky breaks and today was ours. I'm really proud of the team for our career best ET and speed. We are gonna be tough the rest of the year."


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The economic and social turmoil after the fall of the Soviet Union was profound enough to be seen in the demographic statistics. Birth rates dropped as the death rates went up. Typically when birth rates drop it is presented as an indicator of social development, but it clearly is not in this instance. What explains these statistics?
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This graph of Births, Death and Natural Growth shows that the Natural Growth along with the Births in Russia have declined since 1950, the main downfall is during the collapse of the U.S.S.R. While the Deaths in Russia are increasing gradually as the collapse of the U.S.S.R approacher. There are many factors that could be causing deaths in Russia, people are not getting enough food into their systems and sickness is easily attracted. The real for the downfall in births is because women and men are not mating and having a child because they are too busy working and building a life for themselves. Back in 1950-1952 families were consisting of 3-4 children and now families only have one child at maximum 2. How can Russia increase these birth and natural growth rates? The social development of Russia must increase and people have to start living life differently.
When looking at this graph it is showing that something had to have happened to make death rates go up and the birth rates to go down. The life expectancy of men dropped, alcohol poisoning occurred more frequently, suicide occurred, and a declining population of 1 million or so people a year. All of these factors can create higher death rate with older people staying in place and the younger generation moving out. With this happening the birth rate would drop and the death rate would increase.


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The Woodstock Chamber of Commerce has a new look – one that's looking right back at you.
Four businesses were selected to kick off its new marketing campaign "I Am The Woodstock Chamber." The faces of four business owners and officials are included in print and online promotional materials.
"We wanted to put a face on the chamber businesses," said Woodstock chamber Executive Director Shari Gray.
"When you hear chamber, you think of chamber as a collection of different businesses. We want to make it more personal, and give it a focal point."
"It's the business owners that make us an organization," said chamber President Todd Kinker, first vice president at Golden Eagle Community Bank. "By highlighting them and bringing them together, we make our organization stronger."
The chamber's new look began earlier this year when it changed its logo. "We wanted to continue the momentum of rebranding ourselves with an updated look and a fresh perspective on things," Kinker said.
Gray said the businesses selected "have been at the forefront in the effort to change our image and have been very active in the chamber."
Included in the chamber's campaign are a long-established business, home-based business, young entrepreneur and nonprofit. Selected businesses benefit through online and print marketing.
Selected as the campaign's first long-established business was Benoy Motor Sales, featuring a picture of its president. Dale Benoy. Dale's father, Ray, started Benoy Motor Sales in 1948. The family-owned business includes Tim Benoy, vice president.
The home-based business is Myriad Creative Services, which specializes in custom websites, SEO, printing and marketing. Owner Jon Wenzel said he was involved in the new campaign through the chamber's membership committee.
"We started by talking to a lot of members," Wenzel said. "One member said she had a negative connotation about the chamber. We felt we should address this head-on and show what the chamber really is, not what it had been."
The young entrepreneur for October is Abigail Powers of Simple Market. Abigail, 24, owns Simple Market with her sister, Brooke, 21. They have been open for two years.
Their shop features local food and products, gluten-free food, vitamins and supplements.
Abigail said while the chamber program is new, "it will help me get the word out to the community. It will give more of a connection to our store, our square and Woodstock."
The face of nonprofits is Suzanne Hoban, executive director of Family Health Partnership Clinic.
Kathy Rauch, volunteer coordinator for the clinic, serves on the chamber board.
"We all have a passion for what's going on at the chamber," Rauch said. "It's all about partnerships. The only way to get through these difficult times is to help each other."
Rauch said the chamber is trying to gather its resources.
"There are so many young, creative business owners," she said. "It's interesting seeing them merging with more established business owners."
Gray said there has been "a very positive reaction" to the chamber's new marketing campaign. "This sets us apart. No other chamber has done anything like this."
Four new businesses will be highlighted each month. For more information, call Gray at 815-338-2436, or visit woodstockilchamber.com.


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DURHAM, N.C. – Six Blue Devil swimmers are set to open competition at the 2014 NCAA Division I Women's Swimming and Diving Championship Thursday, March 19 at the University of Minnesota Aquatic Center. Seniors Lauren Weaver and Christine Wixted will make their second consecutive appearances at the national championship meet, which continues through Saturday, March 22 in Minneapolis. The two veteran swimmers will also be joined by sophomores Kathryn Eckhart and Chelsea Ye and freshmen Maddie Rusch and Jessie Sutherland.
Preliminaries will begin at 12 p.m. ET Thursday, Friday and Saturday, followed by the finals session at 8 p.m. ET each day. Friday and Saturday's finals sessions will be broadcast live on ESPN3, while additional coverage will also be aired on tape delay Wednesday, Apr. 2 at 9 p.m. on ESPNU. For more information and to view the complete schedule of events, visit the NCAA Championship homepage.
Weaver, an NCAA Championship participant last season in the 50-yard freestyle, qualified for this year's championship individually in the 50 freestyle, 100 freestyle and the 100 butterfly. A native of Cincinnati, Ohio, she claimed All-ACC honors with a pair of third-place finishes and program records in the 50 freestyle and 100 butterfly at last month's conference meet in Greensboro, N.C.
Wixted, a four-time All-ACC performer, also heads to the NCAA meet for the second-straight year after competing in the 100 and 200 breaststroke last March in Indianapolis. Coming off of fourth-place showings in both breaststroke events at this year's ACC Championship, she will also compete in the 200 IM this week.
Rookies Sutherland and Rusch joined Weaver and Wixted in helping Duke qualify the 200 medley relay, the first in program history to advance to the NCAA Championship. Weaver, Rusch, Eckhart and Ye will represent the Blue Devils in the 200 freestyle relay after posting an NCAA provisional time and program record of 1:30.01 at the ACC Championship.
The top eight finishers in each event at the NCAA Championships will earn All-America First Team honors, while places nine through 16 will garner honorable mention All-America accolades.
Thursday's events in Minneapolis include the preliminaries and finals of the 200 freestyle relay, 500 freestyle, 200 IM, 50 freestyle, 400 medley relay and one-meter diving. Wixted will take to the pool in the 200 IM, followed by Weaver in the 50 freestyle, while the Blue Devils will also compete in the opening event of the national championship, the 200 freestyle relay.
For updates throughout the NCAA Championship, follow the Blue Devils on Twitter (@Duke_SWIM_DIVE).


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The Pacific Northwest Library Association (PNLA) is an organization of people who work in, with, and for libraries. PNLA provides opportunities in communication, education, and leadership that transcend political boundaries. PNLA will have the support of its community. PNLA will meet continuing education needs of the region. PNLA will develop stronger library networks and networking in the region.
The Pacific Northwest Library Association community is made up of over 200 library staff and like-minded individuals from four states and two provinces. PNLA provides a unique regional and multinational perspective to the issues that interest all library staff: intellectual freedom, literacy, continuing education, and library leadership.
About Us
We are the oldest regional library association in the United States and the only binational association in North America. Members come from Alaska, Alberta, British Columbia, Idaho, Montana, Washington and beyond. Since 1909, PNLA has provided a relaxed, friendly professional and social forum for librarians, library workers, and library supporters throughout the vast Pacific Northwest region.
PNLA promotes increased communication, joint advocacy, open debate, networking and support and Information sharing through its many special projects and initiatives including:
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Shawn Smith of the Band Showtime Auditions for NBC's "The Voice" [VIDEO]
A local musician has made it through the first round of auditions at NBC's The Voice. Shawn Smith, otherwise known as 'Big Sexy,' will continue to round two of the audition process this Thursday. If he gets through Thursday's try out, he'll be added to the show, which starts in June. Shawn was in the studio with First News With Keeler in the Morning on Tuesday and performed one of the songs he's using for the judges at NBC.


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GAFFNEY, S.C. – The King University women's swimming & diving team competed at the Conference Carolinas meet, and nearly set a pair of school records on Friday afternoon. The Tornado finished fourth at the meet with a total of 17 points.
Olivia Langford started the day for the Tornado with a third place finish in the 200 yard freestyle to score three points. Her time of 2:02:.77 was under seven tenths of a second off the school record time of 2:02.15. Langford also scored four points in the 500 yard freestyle with a time of 5:27.90, coming in with a second place finish. Also in the 500 free, Rachel Fuller earned one point after finishing fifth with a time of 5:44.58.
In the 50 yard butterfly, Samantha Vargo turned in a time of 28.77 seconds, only three tenths of a second off the school record for a fifth place finish to earn one point. Vargo also earned one point with a fifth place finish in the 100 yard backstroke with a time of 1:06.26 seconds.
Fuller accounted for three more points in the 100 yard butterfly when she came in third with a time of 1:04.96. Nicole Maldonado earned King's final three points in the 50 yard freestyle as she clocked a time of 25.14 seconds to place third.
King will be in action again on Thursday when they travel to Milligan College. The meet is scheduled to start at 6:00 p.m.


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Ridden by Paco Lopez, Smooth Air was making his second start this year after finishing seventh in the Breeders' Cup Classic (G1) at Santa Anita in late October for trainer Bennie Stutts Jr. The son of Smooth Jazz relaxed off the pace down the backstretch of the one-mile test as Finallymadeit dueled for the lead with Robert Clay's Formidable before Smooth Air rallied down the outside in the field of six older horses. Formidable held third, three-quarters of a length behind the runner-up.
Winning Jockey Quotes
Paco Lopez:
"We didn't break the way I had hoped. We were stumbling around, but I was able to straighten up and turn things around. Nunez's horse (Finallymadeit) bothered me a little bit, but when it was time to make the push my horse answered the call. At the end there was no doubt in my mind we were going to take it. We had plenty horse."
Winning Owner-Breeder Quotes
Brian Burns (Mount Joy Stable):
"Once we decided not to go to Dubai (World Cup), we targeted this race to see if he could be effective at a one-turn mile, because the major goal from here is the Met Mile (at Belmont Park on Memorial Day). He's been so special for us. He's a third-generation homebred. He'll run once more before the Met Mile. There are several options."
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Remember the brouhaha last summer when General Motors was apparently trying to kill the Chevy nickname?
Well, that plan seems to have been forgotten.
GM's U.S. vice president for Chevrolet, Rick Scheidt, used the nickname in a press release bragging about the increasing four-cylinder take rate for Chevy, err, Chevrolet vehicles.
"Chevrolet's investment in advanced engine technology is reflected in the increased popularity of our four-cylinder models," Scheidt said. "These technologies offer the performance and refinement drivers expect from Chevy in smaller engines that deliver the fuel efficiency they want."


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Drug utilization review programs help to ensure that prescriptions for outpatient drugs are appropriate, medically necessary, and not likely to result in adverse medical consequences. DUR programs use professional medical protocols and computer technology and data processing to assist in the management of data regarding the prescribing of medicines and the dispensing of prescriptions over periods of time.
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Federal legislation that requires states to implement DUR programs also requires states to establish DUR boards whose function is to play a major role in each state's DUR program. Pursuant to state law, the DURB was created to establish and implement medical standards and criteria for Medicaid's DUR programs. The New York State Medicaid DURB is comprised of health care professionals appointed by the Commissioner and includes physicians and pharmacists that actively practice in New York.
Responsibilities of the DURB include:
- The establishment and implementation of medical standards and criteria for the retrospective and prospective DUR program.
- The development, selection, application, and assessment of educational interventions for physicians, pharmacists and recipients that improve care.
- The collaboration with managed care organizations to address drug utilization concerns and to implement consistent management strategies across the fee-for-service and managed care pharmacy benefits.
- The review of therapeutic classes subject to the Preferred Drug Program.
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Nominations for Board membership are accepted continuously and can be submitted to the DUR Board at firstname.lastname@example.com. If no vacancies exist, nominations will be kept on file for consideration once a position becomes available. Questions on membership and candidacy can be directed to the DUR Board Member Liaison, Robert Sheehan, at 518-486-3209.
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Howell Schools IT Worker Charged with Child Porn Possession, Distribution
An Internet technology technician in the Howell Township school system with ties to a nearby high school marching band, a drum and bugle corps and a local YMCA s under arrest for several charges related to child pornography.
Matthew Wolny, 35, of Jackson, was arrested early Thursday morning at his Maryland Drive home by members of Ocean County Prosecutor Joseph Coronato's High Tech Crime Unit.
Information provided by investigators say that in addition to his work for Howell Schools, Wolny volunteered as an assistant director of the Brick Memorial High School marching band and had a membership in the Ocean County YMCA. He formerly was a member of the Windsor Regiment Drum and Bugle Corps.
Authorities accuse Wolny of producing and dealing thousands of salacious images and videos involving children. Investigators say he tried fighting his way out of the house before being subdued by Jackson and county investigators, who also seized digital evidence, cell phones, a .44-caliber hand gun and Wolny's car.
He's charged with second-degree counts of manufacture and distribution of child pornography and a third-degree charge of possession. Jackson police filed charges of resisting arrest and obstruction of justice.
Second-degree charges carry possible prison terms of five to 10 years each on conviction.
County investigators are asking anyone who can provide background to the case to reach Detective David Brubaker: 732-929-2027, extension 5329.
According to information from Coronato's office, Wolny's case will be pursued under the guidelines of New Jersey's enhanced child pornography law that took effect in August.
It raises possession from a fourth-degree offense to third-degree, and "creates a presumption of imprisonment" for anyone found to have more than 100 kiddie-porn files.
Distribution, says spokesman Al Della Fave, is a "strict liability offense" if a peer-to-peer file sharing network is involved. Distribution of over 25 files would trigger an automatic period of parole ineligibility.


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Community News
Poster contest winners announced
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- Published on 14 December 2013
- Written by Mount Vernon Optic-Herald
Winners in the 32nd annual Mount Vernon Elementary School Poster Contest were announced on Thursday, December 5 at the First National Bank of Mount Vernon. Students were instructed to create a poster that illustrates what they believe is an "Old Fashioned Christmas."
The elementary school poster contest is sponsored each year by the First National Bank. For more information, see the Dec. 12 edition of the Mount Vernon Optic-Herald.


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Art Collections Online
The Drummer Boy
JOHN, Sir William Goscombe (1860 - 1952)
(We are not able to provide an image for this item at this time. This is either due to copyright restrictions, or because the item is awaiting digitisation. We apologise for any inconvenience.)
Media: bronze
Size: 231.1 cm
Acquired: 1927; Gift; Sir William Goscombe John
Accession Number: NMW A 2627
The sculptor wrote in 1925 that this was one of his 'best and most popular works'. Goscombe John himself suggested its location in the Museum's entrance hall. The young soldier is a replica of a figure on the South African War memorial to the King's Regiment in Liverpool. A painted plaster model for the sculpture is on display in Gallery 7. Goscombe John described the boy, who, at the Battle of Dettingen of 1743 'seated on a battered earthwork and shouting to his comrades, beats a stirring and joyful call to arms, forgetful of all sorrow'.


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Follow the launch of ATV-3
23 March 2012
Join us to follow the launch of ESA's third Automated Transfer Vehicle, Edoardo Amaldi, on Friday 23 March. ATV-3 will be launched on an Ariane 5 from Europe's Spaceport in Kourou, French Guiana, to the International Space Station. Launch is set for 05:34 CET (04:34 GMT). Streaming will start at approximately 05:00 CET (04:00 GMT).


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Thus the reason why I HATE our current government.
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I stick by that idea; that guns should be kept out of the hands of everyday people; but it's not my country and I accept that. I merely like to be involved in threads like these for my education on such issues. :)
I found this comment interesting as the answer is you're right, at least as far as knives go; it is an offense to carry such blades around with you, other than pocket knives. You cannot buy a knife, razor, axe, etc, until you are 18. However, this law doesn't seem to be being enforced enough, as young, stupid people are still getting hold of them and are roaming around, unchecked, in public.Quote:
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We're having a tough time with knife-crime in the London area. I support 100% the stricter legislations on knife carrying that are being brought up in Parliamentary debate. Too many lives are wasted by idiots getting hammered out of their heads and stabbing to death the next person they meet in the street.
Speaking of people you might not want to live next door to...
From yesterday's Orange County Register...
An Anaheim woman shot her longtime neighbor in his shoulder after he politely asked her to stop trimming ivy from his side of a shared fence.
Anita Judith Spriggs, 66, then stuffed her gun in an oven mitt, cut a hole in the drywall of a bedroom and tried to hide the package as police surrounded her house....
She is charged with attempted murder and assault with a semiautomatic firearm.
A t-shirt of course!
President Bush's speech at the state capitol in Charleston, W.Va., on Independence Day in 2004, invoked the nation's highest ideals: "On this Fourth of July, we confirm our love of freedom, the freedom for people to speak their minds. ... Free thought, free expression, that's what we believe," Bush told the crowd.
Ringing words. Unfortunately, the White House advance team didn't get the memo. Or the message.
More than an hour earlier, the advance officials, working with local police, had confronted and ejected a young couple who had come to the speech wearing T-shirts that fit any reasonable definition of free expression. The front of both shirts bore the name "Bush" surrounded by a circle with a slash through it; the back of Jeffery Rank's shirt carried the slogan "Regime Change Begins at Home" and Nicole Rank's shirt read, "Love America, Hate Bush."
The Ranks refused demands to take the shirts off, turn them inside out or leave. Though they were on public property and not being disruptive, they were handcuffed, arrested and charged with trespass. The charges were later dropped, and with the help of the American Civil Liberties Union, the Ranks sued the White House advance personnel for violating their First Amendment rights.
Last week, the government settled the case, admitting no wrongdoing but agreeing to pay the Ranks $80,000. That avoidable expenditure of taxpayer dollars speaks volumes about who was wrong here.
Perhaps if they had been disruptive they would not have been arrested!
May I ask you a question about English Laws & customs . I read a column
on BBC about three people who had been sentenced for the death of a
child. The Police seemed to be saying that they need protect these criminals after
they served their sentences , and they will receive police protection. Is that normal
for England? They sure wouldn't earn any protection from society after
they were out of prison.
Crime goes up when the means to defend yourself are taken away. The criminals dont care what weapons they cant legally have, making law abiding citizens victims.Quote:
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Late in 2004 a man shot and killed Darrell Abbott of Pantera and Damage Plan by a man whoes mom bought him a firearm, it was illegal for her son to own a firearm for mental reasons. To my knowledge the mother was never charged with a crime she admitted to.
How about MSNC editing the coverage of the man carrying the AR 15 at the Arizona Obama rally? How else are they going to say the protesters are racist?
Sure are obsessed about race, aren't you RICHARD?
I suppose that is easier than dealing with substance!:rolleyes::rolleyes:
That is correct, once released from prison these people do have a right to call for police protection (although as far as I'm aware, it is for a limited period of time only. Quite how long that is, I don't know. It varies from case to case). This happens often in cases of a sensitive nature, particularly those involving children.
The 'idea' is that the criminals have served their punishment in prison, and that upon their release they are likely to be subject to further abuse and discrimination from the public, job interviewers, etc. In order for the people in question to continue with their lives without the risk of assualt, or worse, the police protection is there to ensure that.
I must say that in the majority of cases like this, those convicted are kept anonymous, thus police protection is not usually needed. However, for some reason or another, the anonymity request expired.
It's an issue that divides our nation, just as ES explained that gun laws divide America. Many people feel very, very strongly that ex-cons should pay the full penalty for the crime they committed, and should 'get what they deserve'. Others question whether that sort of attitude breaches human rights and that, if someone was wrongly convicted, which does happen occasionally, they would be subject to undeserved hatred and hardship for the rest of their lives.
It's another issue of perhaps considering compassion a little too much in politics.
I think in the UK it's more to do with a lack of fear of being caught and reprimanded. We have far less on-the-beat bobbies than we used to so this sort of crime is much easier to get away with. Also, we keep letting all our petty to moderate criminals out early on 'good behaviour' because we don't have enough prison space to cram them all in. I don't think it's got much to do with self defence, except in Manchester/London gang culture, which do not count for all stabbings.Quote:
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My attempt at humor stems from the 'historical record' that states the the European settlers came to America/the Americas with guns promptly took it over.
Contessa to me, Conny to you???:p
I may be a tad jealous.
Oops! Does that qualify me as a sinner and a racist?:eek:


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Kasilof's Dusty Van Meter, 43, and race partner Marc McKenna, 38, from Anchorage have won the 2013 running of the Iron Dog snowmachine race that runs from Big Lake to Nome to Fairbanks.
For Van Meter, it was his fifth win in the 2,000-mile event. The duo crossed the line and took the win at about 12:45 p.m. on Saturday, and will split the $50,000 prize that goes along with the win.
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If you've been suffering indie game bundle fatigue, now that a new one launches almost every week, the latest Humble Bundle should perk you right back up. The 'pay what you want' Humble Indie Bundle V packs Amnesia: The Dark Descent, Limbo, Psychonauts, and Superbrothers: Sword & Sworcery EP, plus, if you pay more than the average price, you get Bastion too.
Head on over to Humble Bundle to slap down whatever you fancy paying, dividing it up as you please between the developers, charities, and organizer. As ever, the games come for PC, Mac and Linux, and are available as DRM-free direct downloads with bonus Steam keys. Oh, and you get their soundtracks too.
Now, sadly the customary Humble Bundle rapping is absent from HIB V's trailer, but maybe the Bastion narrator and Tim Schafer will make up for that:


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Crowds, traffic, shopping, long checkout lines, decorations, more traffic, cards to send, cookies to bake — wait, did I remember to unplug the Christmas tree this morning? Bah humbug! 'Tis the season to drive yourself crazy.
But with a little planning and organization, it doesn't have to be, says Betsy Miller, a professional organizer in Springfield.
"Anything you can get done early is helpful," says Miller. "Get your whole family involved. At the end of the day, don't stress about things. The holidays are all about being together. Even Martha Stewart has probably had some debacles in her day."
Here are simple ways to navigate holiday madness, streamline your to-do list and actually relax (we promise!) on Christmas.
Shopping and gifts
Some brave souls knocked out their Christmas shopping on Black Friday. A few were done before Halloween. But most of us don't even start until December. That means we are all shopping at once.
If you still have shopping to do, follow these tips to ease stress and avoid the frenzy.
— Set a budget and keep track of spending. One way to do that: Start a little shopping notebook (a mini-spiral notebook works great). Put a recipient's name on one page and leave a page or two for jotting down gift ideas. A couple pages later, write the same name at the top of a page for jotting down each purchase, with price. That way you can keep track of how much you are spending. Repeat with each gift recipient's name. Resist the urge to impulse buy little things: You'll be surprised how quickly it adds up to overspending.
— Save money and time by exchanging names. Consider setting a limit on how much family members can spend.
— Plan trips. "Before going shopping, definitely try to coordinate where you are going to do your stops. Start at one end of town. Don't double back and waste time and gas. Make a list for everything," Miller says.
— When shopping for toys, consider: Is the toy safe and age-appropriate? Does the toy encourage thinking or problem solving? Is the toy worth the cost?
— If you are not sure what to buy, get a gift card, Miller says. "I'm a big believer in giving services: a dinner out, a mani-pedi, a massage — things people can actually use instead of something they have to try to figure out how to store."
— Save gas and time and shop online. A few good price comparison websites are shopzilla.com, pricegrabber.com, shopping.yahoo.com and dealtime.com.
— Don't feel bad if someone gives you something you don't like. "Just re-gift it, donate it and move on with your life. It's not worth stressing over," Miller says.
— Remind yourself and your children that it's the thought that counts. (And for those on a budget, nothing says "Merry Christmas" more than homemade gifts. Consider making a batch of ornaments with your family to give — they will become heirlooms before you know it.)
— Before decorating the tree, consider the safety of your children and pets. If you have small children, put up the breakable and expensive ornaments in exchange for soft plastic or fabric ones. If you have pets, check the lighting cords daily in case your pooch has been chewing.
— Don't spend a fortune on new decorations. If you want something new, think homemade. Search online for ideas that you and your children can make as a family activity.
— As you go through old decorations, take the opportunity to pare down. Don't hang on to something you don't like anymore. Personal tastes change! Donate the item so another family can enjoy it.
Cooking and baking
— Host holiday potluck dinners where everyone brings a dish.
— Compare recipes with what's already in your cabinet. Then check the expiration dates. Replace anything old. Scratch things off your list if you already have it.
— Cook what you can ahead of time and freeze it. Be sure to wrap and seal food in airtight containers. Cookies and other treats can be made about a week in advance.
— Set the table the night before. Or better yet, seize the opportunity to teach your kids how to set the table.
— For big dinners, make a plan for the oven. Don't wait until Christmas to wonder, "When does this or that need to go in?"
— For big gatherings, people often use all of their forks for the main meal and don't have any left for dessert. Either wash dishes right after the meal or buy plastic forks.
— Write out the menu and post it on the fridge so you can check items off as you complete dishes.
Greeting cards
— If you send greeting cards, getting an early start is a good idea. But if you run late, send the cards anyway. Your friends and family will still be happy to hear from you.
— Purchase cards that could double for Happy New Year, or simply say "happy holidays," so late cards won't seem outdated. "I know people who are so busy, so stressed this time of year, they skip sending Christmas cards altogether and send New Year's cards or Valentine cards," Miller says.
— When sending a card to someone of a different faith or tradition, choose a secular card with a sentiment such as "Season greetings" or Happy holidays."
— Make card-sending a family activity and have kids sign their names or decorate the backs of envelopes. Older children can help address, sign and stamp cards.
— Put names and addresses on your computer so you can print address labels. It takes more time the first year but saves time for future holiday seasons.
— Store extra cards with Christmas decorations so you will have them for next year.
Gift wrapping
— If you have the space, set up a wrapping headquarters — whether in a spare room or a closet — to store paper, bags, tissue, ribbon, scissors and tape for easy access when you have a few minutes to wrap up a gift.
— It's hard to gauge how much gift wrap to purchase, but a good rule of thumb is 22 square feet of paper wraps five standard shirt boxes.
— It's OK to use gift bags! In many ways they are every bit as special as beautifully wrapped boxes. Plus, there are so many great "bells and whistles" you can put on gift bags. (After Christmas, watch for deep discounts and pick up a bunch for next year.)
— If you don't have wrapping paper to get the job done, see Page 4 of this week's "Hey, Mom!" for easy ways to decorate a gift with items found around the house.
— In a pinch? Take gifts to the mall and have them wrapped by volunteers, especially if the money you pay for wrapping is a donation forf a special-needs center.
— Gift wrap paper can be used in other creative ways. Here are several easy ideas: Wrap coordinating papers around jars or cylindrical vases to add a holiday touch to floral centerpieces. Coat the front of wrapping paper with clear self-adhesive paper and cut out festive place mats (especially fun for the kids). Wrap your front door like a big present. Use holiday paper cut in a circle to top jars of homemade food gifts and tie with ribbon or yarn.
— Make the madness of opening gifts more meaningful by taking turns. That way everyone can see who got what and enjoy reactions. Start with the youngest person first and go around by ages from there.
— When opening gifts, instead of tearing off paper and trashing it, recycle it! Used wrapping paper is great for wrapping up your ornaments when you put them away. Stash used paper with decorations to use as colorful filler the following year when you pack and mail gifts. Used tissue paper is terrific for washing windows without streaking.
Bust seasonal stress: 32 ways to navigate the holidays
Crowds, traffic, shopping, long checkout lines, decorations, more traffic, cards to send, cookies to bake — wait, did I remember to unplug the Christmas tree this morning? Bah humbug! 'Tis the season to drive yourself crazy.


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Many Scientists Do Not Accept Evolution
Have you ever heard evolutionists brashly claim that all legitimate scientists believe in evolution? Actually, this is one of their favorite things to say, thinking that this will instantly silence creationists. The fact is - some of the greatest scientists who ever lived believed in biblical creation.
For instance, James Clerk Maxwell was a Bible-believer who developed complex theoretical and mathematical explanations for all the forces in the universe except gravity and nuclear forces. Albert Einstein said that Maxwell made greater contributions to physics than anyone except Isaac Newton.
Sir Isaac Newton is best known for his discoveries of the law of universal gravitation and the three laws of motion. Newton also built the first reflecting telescope, and he developed calculus into the branch of mathematics it is today. Newton was a creationist who actually wrote more papers about theology than science.
Another great scientist - Robert Boyle - did pioneering work in both chemistry and physics. Boyle, too, was a Bible-believer who opposed those who questioned the truth of the Bible.
But what about scientists today? Are any of them skeptical of Darwinism? Many friends of Creation Moments are scientists who believe that Darwinism is unsupported by the evidence. And take a look at the credentials of hundreds of scientists who signed the Discovery Institute's "Scientific Dissent from Darwinism" list. This list represents only a fraction of those who dissent from Darwinism; many of them remain silent out of concern they would lose their jobs.
So the next time you hear someone say that no true scientists are creationists, copy and paste this entire blog entry into an e-mail and send it to them.
There is some circularity in the Darwinian mind. It goes like this:
1. Evolutionist says: "All scientists accept evolution."
2. Skeptic responds: "But scientist X doesn't believe in evolution."
3. Evolutionist responds: "Well, he is not a
I don't know any evolutionist who says that.
I would say that people who blindly believe the world is 6000 to 10 000 years old are not willing to use scientific methods to prove their claims. They just don't. That is not very scientific, it's just faith.
You can't talk about "creation-science" because it's not scientific. They don't have any evidence to support their claims apart from the bible, which is historically very inaccurate.
First, Newton was born in the mid 1600s, Boyle was born about 20 years prior, and Maxwell was born in the 1830s and lived until the 1870s. The Origin of Species was not published until late 1859. Newton and Boyle were not alive at the time of publication so they did not agree nor reject evolutionary theory.
Second, They were all men of physical science not life science. ( Yes they were all "real scientist" but in a different field.)
Third, This article is misleading in that it distorts the truth by putting words in the mouths of dead scientists. The only real truth here is that Maxwell was very religious yet I am not sure on his stance regarding evolution.
Kyle, you need to remember that the hypothesis of evolution existed long before Darwin - the idea was not his own. The point we were making is that many scientists - of the past and present - do not accept a materialistic explanation of origins. Regarding your other point, if you'll look at the list of scientists in the "Scientific Dissent from Darwinism" list, you will find a number of present-day scientists in the life sciences. So the assertion that all scientists accept evolution is simply untrue.
One final point. We did not put any words into the mouths of dead scientists. We merely quoted their own words. Incidentally, evolutionists constantly quote Darwin, Gould, Sagan and many others who are dead. Their words - just like the words of people like Newton, Boyle and Maxwell - are important to the discussion over origins.
Seeing that Boyle and Newton were long dead before the publication of the Origin of Species they would have had no chance to to review the idea ( I doubt they would have seeing that they were physical scientist). I don't see the "quotes in their own words" that you have indicated within the article but I do hope that you include them if they exist.
Darwin founded the idea of natural selection and supported it with evidence. The idea of transmutation was around before Darwin yet was not highly thought of due to the lack of evidence at the time. Darwin showed that species changed over time based upon selection of adventitious traits with in a genetic population. Are you suggesting that differing species have no relation to one another and appeared in their current forms without the ability to change genetically and phenotypically? ( I am trying to understand your point). I think that you are possibly thinking of Lamarck's hypothesis or even abiogenesis as a whole.
I have made no claim that all biologist accepted evolution. I have however yet to meet one that has rejected it (Many of them religious). What would you say the percentage of biologist who accept evolution is? Would you say that it is the majority or the minority? Many of the scientist on the discovery institute's list lack a degree in life sciences. Even if you include all of the names posted on the list, assuming they are all valid, it is still a small fraction of the total number of scientist. While I really have no problem with the idea of intelligent design it appears as philosophy rather than a science because it does not test anything.
Finally, I do not like the term "evolutionist" because it makes a scientific theory appear as a social concept (such as Capitalist or Communist among others). I don't know who has been quoting Darwin, Gould or Sagan (Not a life scientist) to you but I would suggest hard data that is peer reviewed. Could you please cite your sources in the future? Does intelligent design have anything that is peer reviewed and testable? If not it does not fall into the realm of science. I furthermore fail to see how evolution is not compatible with christianity because they focus on differing questions (How vs. Why) yet I would love to hear your opinion on this. Good luck to you, Kyle
Kyle, Darwin did not "found" the idea of natural selection. That was done 25 years BEFORE Darwin by the creationist Edward Blyth.
Secondly, no creationist disagrees with natural selection. Darwinists mislead people by saying that evidence for natural selection is evidence for evolutionism. Natural selection SELECTS from life forms that ALREADY EXIST. Darwin was not addressing life forms that ALREADY existed, but addressing how new life forms could come about simply by the outcome of natural, unguided, unplanned, random forces of nature.
Don't equate evolution with natural selection.
Evolution works through natural selection. What are you talking about that evolution should not be equated with natural selection? One thing that I don't get with some creationist claims is that the genetic similarity between chimpanzees and humans are due to common creator but not a common descendant. They further "support" this argument by saying that model of cars are similar because they have a common creator. But that is not very scientific and I find it a VERY WEAK argument. This relation lacks substance. What makes genetic similarities an indication of common creator and not a common descendant? Where is the proof of this so-called common creator?
Where is the proof for this so called common Ancestor? And All the Millions and millions of transitional forms? Just admit it, evolution is your religion.
It is not. DNA research shows that mankind and chimpanzees have almost indisputably a common ancestor. We share 96% of out DNA with chimps.
This IS evidence. There is NO evidence for the existence of god.
Evolution proceeds due to natural selection causing speciation. Darwin did not have to mislead anyone because all he had to do was publish his findings and allow the evidence to speak for itself as any valid scientist would. You seem to equate the theory of evolution with the term abiogenesis, and the spontaneous generation of life rather than the change in life over time. For evolution as described by evolutionary theory to have occurred life had to exist prior. It seems that your real objection is to abiogenesis and spontaneous generation not evolutionary theory. Natural selection is a major process seen in evolution as is genetic drift. Darwin was indeed addressing life forms that were already present as well as past life forms in his theory. Edward Blyth only wrote papers regarding artificial selection and a possible route to restore domesticated species back to their wild ancestors. He focused on the elimination of traits rather than the selection. He never used the term "Natural selection" nor even spoke of new species. His work did however aid Darwin in the development of evolutionary theory.Blyth and Darwin were known to corresponded regarding speciation as described by Wallace (Darwin came up with the idea before Wallace yet had not published).
We object to "chemical evolution" (abiogenesis) totally and unconditionally. We also object to natural selection in terms of what is commonly called macro-evolution - the kind of evolution that is said to result in the formation of new species. We do not object to natural selection in terms of micro-evolution - the kind that causes variations within species.
We also wanted to make a comment on something you said in an earlier post. Though we will agree with you that far more scientists accept evolution than those that don't, we feel this is irrelevant. The last time we looked, the scientific method in the search for truth does not depend on which view gets the most votes. However, what IS truly unscientific is for scientists to intimidate other scientists and shut them up for holding an opposing view. Darwin himself invited scientists to scrutinize his theory. Today, however, a scientist could lose his job for daring to question evolution.
Regarding your question about Intelligent Design, we know that they have put their theories to the test. We suggest you go to the Discovery Institute's website for more information about that.
And finally, your assertion that Christianity and evolution can be compatible is true to a point. Liberal Christianity does not mind reinterpreting the Bible to make it consistent with evolution. Biblical Christianity, on the other hand, is totally incompatible with evolution. The Bible makes many statements about creation that are the opposite of what evolution teaches. The Bible speaks authoritatively on both the "why" AND the "how." We suggest you look at some of the articles on that subject in our Articles Library.
Thursday, February 12, is Charles Darwin's 200th birthday. At the time he wrote On the Origin of Species, very little was known about the cell. Well, the so-called "simple cell" has turned out to be unimaginably complex, and it bears the unmistakable mark of design. We wonder if Darwin (if he were alive today) would still have put forth his theory if he had known what we now know about the complexity of life. Or if he knew that centuries of searching have still not turned up the transitional fossils he expected would be found.
We already know why the majority of scientists accept evolution. The question to ask these 'minority' scientists is, "Why do you reject evolution?"
Just providing a list of
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Having looked over the different comments, I read the same circular arguments that have been presented by others. People will believe what they desire to be true. Blind faith is not a Biblical concept. True faith is based on demonstrable facts. The millions of years needed to complete an evolutionary process do not have facts for support. No scientific proof exists for the Creation since no human eyewitnesses were there to give testimony. However. there are clues even in the fossil record that "million year old fossils" are little to no different from the 21st century animals.
Evolutionists often contradict themselves, covering their ignorance of physics and biology with complicated words that make other people back off. Evolutionists like to say evolution happened in the distant past, as if that exempts it from being discredited. I even heard Dawkins say once that it happened before, but wasn't happening today, even though in another interview he claimed it was going on all around us. This was a weird contradiction, to be sure.
I say, if evolution is natural law, then it's a constant. Therefore, in a laboratory, DNA could readily be used to change one species into another. But what do we find? It can't be done. That's because DNA is coded to replicate a species, not to create a vast number of life forms, or, in the terms of an evolutionist, generate "speciation."
It boils down to dogs will have puppies, not kittens, no matter how much you argue the point.
Disprove that, Darwin.


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Paul McCartney Plays Surprise Show in NYC
Paul McCartney is making the rounds promoting his new record New due out October 15. Today, The Beatles bassist visited New York's Frank Sinatra School of the Arts to play a set of new and old as well as field questions from the 400 students in attendance. Sponsored by iHeartRadio (who McCartney also performed for last week in Las Vegas), Sir Paul filled his set with cuts like "Eight Days a Week," "Back in the USSR," "Lady Madonna" as well as three new songs "Save Us," "New," and "Everybody Out There."
The performance will also be aired across Clear Channel Media and Entertainment Classic Rock, Classic Hits, Oldies and AC stations across the country and on iHeartRadio's website and will stream on Yahoo! Monday October 14 at 9 P.M.


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|2013-01-17, 23:00
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I don't think it's a good idea to lump characters with defined signature moves or styles like Nodoka, Hisa and Sumire, with characters with clearly defined superpowers like Yuu, Kuro and Momo.
|2013-01-18, 02:46
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For Arata, not being restricted to her bowling waits (remember: she only won once with a non-pin wait) does not at all mean that she doesn't have a skewed drawing ability as implied in Achiga. We see Yuu pull it off as well - winning off of non-warm tiles like the eight of pins/six of bamboos when her draws are explicitly mentioned to be skewed towards red tiles. What is more important is that purposely restricting her winning hands to pinfu waits most of the time is actually a detriment in normal mahjong - it makes you more predictable and less flexible, while really offering no advantages at all (Arata doesn't really seem to go for flushes); the only way for her insistence on using bowling pin waits to make sense is if she actually has a higher chance to draw bowling formations than other tiles - supported, in fact, by how all of her bowling wait wins are by tsumo.
I'm not entirely sure that Hisa can classify entirely as non-ability, either. Her hell waits in the individual matches (when they weren't targeted at Bundou) skew probability by quite a bit, and she does self-draw on hell waits way more than standard probability would suggest. She did also mention that the reason she uses hell waits is because they enable her to win - and with only one winning tile remaining, you can't really guarantee winning from opponent discards enough times to justify using it as a main strategy. In addition, she can see "meaning behind the tiles", which enables her to put up a flawless defense in the match against Hajime. All of those suggest that she's an ability user in her own right.
Nodoka, I think, is the only person in your list that is truly a skill-based player.
Also, for the tier list, I'm not sure if we can really call it a 'tier' list as much as a classification list. For instance, there's no question that Mairu is batman and Seiko is an ability user, but we have already seen that pound-for-pound, Mairu is simply stronger than Seiko. Placing 'ability tier' before 'batman tier' in a specific tier list, for instance, mistakenly suggests that ability users are better than batmans (making 'monsters' the only class that is fully accurate as a tier). It would make sense in segmenting the players into groups, but can't really be called 'tier' in any instance.
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|2013-01-18, 08:17
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Oh, here's some disclaimer from the powerlevel chart that I copy pasta:
EDIT: Oh yeah, I'm sorry if I this was mentioned but.... there was a rumour floating around /a/ about Shizu's "ability" because of Achiga's PSP game coming out soon. 'course, it's only a rumour but...
Spoiler for Shizu's ability:
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|2013-01-18, 11:05
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|2013-01-18, 11:47
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Shizu did do that in all match ..........
Spoiler for Shizuno's ability:
INTERESTING, it's not something pull out of nowwhere too LOL
|2013-01-18, 13:16
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Well, that's if the rumours are true. I would take it for a grain of salt though.
Anyways, latest Achiga chapter scores sheets are out!
Spoiler for Shindouji found a way:
Also: I agree. The main manga's vanguard match is much more exciting now than the captain's battle in Achiga.
I don't know why, the latest revelation of Ryuuka going crazy and Ghost Toki coming up to save her + inherited super powers was kind of a disappointment.
Achiga depends a lot on super-powered mahjong, so seeing Satoha go strategical and analytical on Yuuki is really great. I guess I didn't appreciate it before when I didn't know how to play mahjong, but now that I do, it makes me think that Satoha is a badass and so is Yuuki.
I still can't wait for Suzu's explosion and what Gardevoir has in store. Gardevoir is the presumed ace since she was the focus of the silhoutte, so I'm guessing she'll make her move in the later part of the match since right now, it's totally Satoha vs Yuuki.
Suzu looks cute, even though she's not doing anything. Also, Rinkai's coach wants to recruit Yuuki!? Yuuki is getting more and more badass!!
|2013-01-18, 15:29
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Also looks like Achiga 18 has its final version out. The supernova cometh and Fairy Toki is cute
|2013-01-18, 16:11
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First club match: win 1000 instead of 7700 and caught Hisa's attention
Second club match: Rinshan Kaihou for 2 han 70 fu
Third club match: 4 concealed triplet
Perfectual final: counted Yakuman
national: small win to kick out Ensui and Miyamori
|2013-01-18, 16:13
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The Koromo is the queen of the last round wins, and she utterly wasted Shizu. Either this supposed ability of Shizu isn't absolute, or it's just not correct.
|2013-01-18, 23:01
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I did a rough mini-translation of the 108 raws. Since I can't read Japanese, I relied mostly on the Baidu Chinese translations, so there might be some things that are lost in translation here. It won't replace Yuriproject's wonderful translations, but just in case if anyone's curious:
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|2013-01-19, 01:28
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|2013-01-19, 01:31
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We are taking about the "last round of the game" not "Winning with the last tile" Koromo's ability doesn't have anything to do with this.
It is possible that the ability doesn't work in 2 people match!
However, I think it's just coincident event, so let's wait for next ch. to find out.
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|2013-01-19, 02:33
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Actually, you know, to think about it. If winning on the last hand is Shizu's actual ability, then it could directly explain Koromo's comment to Saki about being "troublesome".
If you think about it, by far the most key part of Saki's tendency to get +/- 0 depends on the very last hand. There are other factors involved, of course: whether there's someone else with an overall larger point gain, so Saki can avoid the first place bonus; and setting up her own score, so that she could hit the +/- 0 range with her last winning hand (like, I guess the list of possible score for hands of less than limit (i.e. below mangan) value are pretty continuous, but above that level, for example, it is impossible to get a hand of above 9600 but less than 11600 in points). However, the actual key factor for Saki is actually winning that final hand, with the score precisely calculated to land where she needs it to.
However, if the only thing that Shizu's supposed "ability" does is simply specifically allow her to always win the last hand, then that interferes directly with Saki's +/- 0 setup. Even if it doesn't amount to much in terms of firepower, even if it can't even begin to compete with dozens of other powers which would usually be more difficult to face, for Saki "troublesome" is exactly how I'd describe it. It might actually be the perfect development if it is true.
|2013-01-19, 04:56
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Location: Dollars
The miracle part sounds possible to me. Based on the last match that we saw, she really did pull some kind of miracle to get to the semifina. I don't fully agree with the part where she will absolutely win the last round though
|2013-01-19, 06:12
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Who will you choose as members for it. The monster class are mostly 100% on the list.
|2013-01-19, 07:22
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I really did remember the rules for parenchan wrong, it seems. For some reason I always thought it tied into dealer bonus rounds rather than just consecutive wins (also helps that I've never seen or been in a game that had a parenchan). In that case, it seems that Yuuki didn't plan for the exhaustive draws to happen. Satoha is really just pressuring Yuuki really hard, and she's barely hanging on to her dealership by forcing exhaustive draws.
It makes Satoha seem so much scarier in comparison even though she never revealed a single ability .
|2013-01-19, 09:04
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So from my understanding in the last year's individual finals we got one first year, two second years, and one third year.
Am I supposed to feel sorry for that third year student?
|2013-01-19, 11:39
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|2013-01-19, 11:56
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So the secret to Shizu's skills might have been in front of us all along? It's like I'm watching angel beats again!
Also, here's a little something I just found. Not really sure if it's fanmade or not, though.
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Hey guys. I have a question to see if anyone could help me. I have this classic Asteroid game where asteroids keep falling down and a little ship destroys them with bullets. The asteroids are stored in an ArrayList. There is a for loop in that checks if an asteroid and a bullet collide. If they do, the loop erases the asteroid.
My problem is that when the bullet does collide one of the asteroids, the hit asteroid does erase, but the other two get deleted as well, even though they show up again quickly. How do I make it so that if a certain element of the array gets hit, only that element gets erased and not the other ones?
Here is the code in case anyone wants to see it directly.
// check bullet-asteroid collisions for(int j = 0; j <= asteroids.size() - 1; j++) { for(int i=0; i<bullets.size(); i++) { Bullet bullet = bullets.get(i); if(asteroids.get(j).intersects(bullet)) { // increase asteroids destroyed count status.setAsteroidsDestroyed(status.getAsteroidsDestroyed() + 1); // "remove" asteroid asteroidExplosion = new Rectangle(asteroids.get(j).x,asteroids.get(j).y,asteroids.get(j).width,asteroids.get(j).height); asteroids.get(j).setLocation(-asteroids.get(j).width, -asteroids.get(j).height); status.setNewAsteroid(true); lastAsteroidTime = System.currentTimeMillis(); // play asteroid explosion sound soundMan.playAsteroidExplosionSound(); // remove bullet bullets.remove(i); break; } } }
Thank you all very much.


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June 10, 2011
by Canon
(Thanks to Guy Noffsinger of Guy Nofffsinger Photography for submitting this article)
Canon's video-capable EOS cameras have changed the way filmmakers conduct their craft. They've opened the door to a striking and emotive new style of storytelling. Whether you're an event photographer looking to understand cinematography better, an amateur looking for a new "angle" on your favorite subjects, a wedding professional looking to take your stories to new levels, or a production professional interested in using EOS HD for a quicker, more intimate production workflow, this three day workshop will expose all of the potential you have in telling your EOS stories. Through an exploration of many of the facets that compose a film; light, camera movement, lens choice/color, storyboarding, and post/editing, we will deconstruct the story and put it back together again.
This entire experience is designed to be very hands on with a very high ratio of instructors to students (4 or 5 to 1) so we can help you at whatever level you may be at. On day one, with guidance and instruction from stillmotion and Canon team members, attendees will rotate through five breakout-learning stations. Each station will focus on an integral aspect of storytelling-audio, lighting, camera movement, lens choice/composition/color, storyboarding & editing.
- Learn how to light a scene from start to finish.
- Gets you hands on the many different ways to move a camera and learn how each way impacts your audience.
- Explore all of the different things you can say through your lens choice, composition, and color.
- Learn the value of storyboarding and work through the process to prepare for your own short.
- Try out the different methods of capturing audio and explore what works when.
Day two will begin with a review of students' footage and production stills from day one. Using the skills learned from the first day's breakout stations, students will spend the rest of this day planning and shooting a short film in the style of a 24-hour film festival. Groups of 4-5 will work with a stillmotion team member to incorporate certain lines and props into the short you will shoot that day. The day's footage will be downloaded, ready for day three's post production exercises.
Day three will include presentations on workflow, a detailed exploration on storytelling in post, and a color correction demonstration. Students will work with the stillmotion and canon team to help you put together your short and share it with the class before we leave.
You will leave the workshop equipped with fresh perspectives on the creative and technical tools available to you as an EOS HD storyteller. These tools, combined with stillmotion's unique creative vision, will provide you with newfound confidence to tackle your next moving image masterpiece, be it a cine-style wedding, promo piece or family video.
With such a low ratio of instructors to students, we are able to accommodate students of varying skill levels and ensure they are challenged at their level. With plenty of amazing supporters on board including Cinevate, Kessler, Manfrotto, Shootsac, Tiffen, With Etiquette, and Zacuto we will have all of the latest tools for you to get your hands on and utilize in your productions. While students are welcome to bring their own cameras and lenses, Canon will provide all camera gear needed for this experience. A laptop is recommended and Final Cut Pro experience is an asset, but you may also work with other students in groups to complete your projects. The post ideas presented apply generally to any editor, so your welcome to bring any program your comfortable with.
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In pre-game shoot around I watched him talking with so many folks. From his former team mate in Alvin Williams, members of the media like Paul Jones and Doug Smith to a security guard that obviously has been at the ACC back to his playing days as a Raptor. They all greeted him with smiles and the same was offered in return. There is just something about Morris Peterson that makes him so easy to like.
Peterson was traded from New Orleans to Oklahoma City. This is a Thunder team with little in terms of veteran experience. While some where hopeful or being optimistic the change might see Mo get some more PT it just hasn't worked out. Last night in Toronto was only the 3rd game he has seen minutes this season. The last time, before last night, was on November 19th when the KDless Thunder surprised the Celtics. In fact until last night Peterson had not recorded a point.
Still no matter what the rest of his days in the NBA hold, he will always be loved here just as much as Vince Carter is not.
I asked him if it is still fun coming back to Toronto even now after more than a couple years have passed.
Morris Peterson " It is always special to come back to Toronto. I have a lot of friends here. Playing here 7 years I had a chance to develop relationships. It is always nice to see familiar faces."
It has to feel good knowing that you are one of the guys that has left and is still loved unlike some others on the other side of the coin. It must be nice to come back knowing that people still have warm feelings towards you?
Morris Peterson "It's good to be accepted. To be recognized....I have been getting a lot of tweets and messages thanking me for all the years I had here. You develop relationships not just with people but with the fans as well. I always love coming back here"
I asked him his thoughts on his new team in OKC and if there were any similarities to any of the Raptor teams he played on?
"I think this team... we got a lot of potential. These guys work hard. Each team is different that I have been on. We have some great young players. Some guys that have bright futures. I'm just trying to do what I can to help these guys be the best players that they can be."
Some of those young guys came and gave Mo-P a hard time (not really) pretending to be reporters asking some funny questions on what he does to help these young guys. D.J White and Byron Mullens were among the 3 players playing reporter. It was pretty funny. It just shows that whatever locker room Morris Peterson is in you can know 2 things. He is always going to be loved by his team members and their is always going to be humour.
We also before the interview started were almost taken out by a Gatorade bottle, but I am happy to report that both myself and Morris Peterson were not harmed in the conducting of this interview. But it was close. After we were done talking we got talking about a few things. The fact that I am from Hamilton and he is from Flint. Which means nothing to people out side of those towns. But if you live in them and are involved in sports at all the 2 cities are tied by a sporting event called the Canus games. It is like a little mini-Olympics of all different sports. I remember back when Mo was a Raptor he had mentioned he took part in them as a kid. I never did was not that great an athlete. He may be a Spartan but even as a Wolverine fan there is no possible way on earth I can not like Morris Peterson. The other scary thing is he looks almost the same as the guy I interviewed back at those V.C Charity games a long time ago.
He was probably one of the first NBA guys that I ever interviewed and he is still one of my favourites. Andrea Bargnani will likely beat his 3 point mark some day but record book or not you will always remember Morris Peterson as Raptor we love. No list is complete with out him


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China to Raise RQFII Quota, Boost Foreign Investor Access
China will increase fourfold a program that allows investors to bring in yuan raised overseas to meet demand for the nation's securities.
The China Securities Regulatory Commission, the People's Bank of China and the State Administration of Foreign Exchange have agreed in principle to increase the quota for the Renminbi Qualified Foreign Institutional Investor program by 200 billion yuan ($32 billion), Guo Shuqing, chairman of the securities regulator, said at a briefing in Beijing yesterday. Hong Kong officials asked for the amount to be lifted, Guo said. The current quota is 70 billion yuan.
China approved the RQFII program last December, allowing the Hong Kong units of Chinese financial companies to raise yuan offshore for investment in domestic capital markets. Guo has cut trading fees, pushed companies to increase dividends and allowed trust companies to buy equities since becoming chairman a year ago in an effort to shore up the stock market.
The Shanghai Composite Index added 0.1 percent to 2,071.80 at the 11:30 a.m. local-time break, while the yuan gained the most in six weeks after the government reported the fastest export growth in five months.
"The RQFII program is very positive," said Wu Kan, a fund manager at Dazhong Insurance Co. in Shanghai, which oversees $285 million. Still, "the 200 billion-yuan quota isn't big enough to shore up stocks immediately."
While the yuan is freely convertible for trade transactions, investment in stocks or bonds onshore can only be made using quotas assigned by the government and direct investments need regulatory approval.
Stocks Slump
The Shanghai index has lost 5.8 percent this year, while the MSCI China Index (MXCN) of mostly Hong Kong-traded shares, open to overseas investors, has gained 11 percent as U.S. bond purchases spurred foreign funds to pour money into emerging markets.
China also plans to boost its stock markets by announcing bigger tax deductions on dividends for long-term investors, the Xinhua News Agency reported over the weekend, citing the CSRC.
"The tax policy will guide investors to holding stocks for the long term, and companies paying high dividends will attract more attention in the market," Xinhua reported Nov. 10, citing an unidentified CSRC spokesman.
QFII Expansion
China will "definitely" expand the foreign-currency quota provided under the Qualified Foreign Institutional Investor program once the current allotments are filled, Guo said. The central bank and the foreign exchange regulator have no objection, he said.
"We are ready to implement many more measures to help resolve the issue of inconvenience," Guo said at the briefing, held as the 18th Chinese Communist Party congress gathered to elect new leaders. Those changes include tax incentives and rebates for foreign investors, on which there has been "solid progress," and support from other government departments, he said, without giving more details about the policies.
China raised QFII quotas to $80 billion from $30 billion in April. The securities regulator is studying the possibility of boosting the $1 billion ceiling on individual funds in the QFII program, Guo said.
The securities regulator is also studying rule changes that would lower the threshold for Chinese companies to sell shares in Hong Kong, Guo said. Any changes would need the approval of Hong Kong authorities and no formal agreement has been reached yet, according to Guo.
Currency Flows
Regulators are studying ways to improve the management of foreign exchange flows, according to Guo. The securities regulator is considering rules allowing large institutional investors, to move money out of China in stages, either within a few years or in a single year, he said.
"In the past, we encouraged inflows and restricted outflows of funds," Guo said. China should move to "more balanced" and "more neutral" measures, he said. "That doesn't mean that there will be no control at all. There will certainly have to be some control so that market movements will not be too volatile," Guo said.
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Mrs Toth's first Christmas
Reese Witherspoon spent the holidays in Hawaii with her children and her husband of 10 months Jim Toth (not pictured). Remember when Reese got married during promotion for Water For Elephants and released her wedding photos to PEOPLE Magazine just two weeks before the movie came out? It's not just Kardashians, you know.
But Reese is so delightful and goes to church! Churchgoers can't be schemers!
What if church is in Los Angeles? Does that make a difference? And does that help with timing the new baby? For This Means War next month or do you bank the child for her next Oscar campaign in two years? I say bank the child. Mrs Toth wants very much to call herself a 2 time winner. Save it for the Academy.


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COLUMBUS ― American Electric Power and its unregulated subsidiary AEP Retail Energy has reached an agreement to acquire BlueStar Energy Holdings Inc. and its independent retail electric supplier BlueStar Energy Solutions. The terms of the agreement are not being disclosed.
BlueStar, based in Chicago, provides electric supply for retail customers in Ohio, Illinois and other deregulated electricity markets. BlueStar has been in operation since 2002 and has approximately 21,000 customer accounts.
The transaction is expected to close by the end of March, pending regulatory approval from the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission and anti-trust review by the Department of Justice under Hart-Scott-Rodino. BlueStar's operations will continue to be based in Chicago and will remain focused on providing retail electric service for residential, commercial and industrial customers in deregulated states, as well as demand response and energy efficiency services nationwide.
American Electric Power is one of the largest electric utilities in the United States, delivering electricity to more than 5 million customers in 11 states.


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Michael Morse discusses the close calls on offense following the Nats' 11-3 loss
Jerry Hairston Jr. talks about the attitude of the Nats after their 11-3 loss to Milwaukee
Bob, F.P. and the Nats Xtra crew analyze the Nats' 11-3 loss to the Brewers
Johnny and Ray interview Jim Riggleman following the Nats' 11-3 loss to the Brewers
Debbi asks Jim Riggleman to give an update on first baseman Adam LaRoche
Bob Carpenter talks with Ian Desmond following the Nats' 2-1 loss to Baltimore
Bob Carpenter interviews Jordan Zimmermann following the Nats' 2-1 loss
Ivan Rodriguez gives his thoughts on Jordan Zimmermann's outing to Bob Carpenter
Bob Carpenter asks Jim Riggleman about getting thrown out in the first inning of the Nats' 2-1 loss
Kevin Gregg talks about Matt Wieters' game-ending play and his outing in the O's 2-1 win
Matt Wieters talks about his game-ending play following the Birds' 2-1 win
Chris Tillman discusses trying to get deeper into his outings following the O's 2-1 victory
Jim Hunter, Mike Flanagan and F.P. Santangelo recap the first series in the Battle of the Beltways
Buck Showalter meets with the media to talk about the Birds' 2-1 victory over the Nats
Ben Goessling asks Drew Storen about changing his tendencies to fool hitters
Matt Stairs talks about the struggles the Nats hitters had against Jeremy Guthrie


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A Technical Comparison of TTLS and PEAPby Matthew Gast author of 802.11 Wireless Networks: The Definitive Guide
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Broadly speaking, wireless LAN security has two major issues. Authentication of network users is not strong, so unauthorized users may be able to access network resources. Traffic encryption is also weak, so attackers are able to recover transmissions. Strong authentication is a key component of wireless LAN security because it prevents unauthorized users from gaining network access. Wireless LAN protocols are also designed in such a way that bolstering the access control also makes it quite easy to shore up the encryption of traffic, to the point where deploying products to improve authentication will also provide greater privacy of the information traveling over the wireless LAN.
In response to the concern about weak authentication, the industry began developing a series of stronger authentication protocols for use with wireless LANs. The key standard for wireless LAN authentication is the IEEE 802.1x standard, which is in turn based on the IETF's Extensible Authentication Protocol (EAP). EAP, and thus 802.1x, provides an authentication framework. It supports a number of authentication methods, each with its own strengths and weaknesses. Part of the challenge to deploying 802.1x on a wireless network is to decide on the type of authentication that will be used. The authentication method is the key decision to make in deploying a wireless network, since it will drive all the product choices you make.
TLS-based Authentication Methods
802.1x was initially developed for authentication of users on traditional wired LANs, and therefore did not require strong encryption. Eavesdropping is certainly possible on wired networks, though it requires physical access to network equipment. Wireless networks are much easier to perform traffic analysis on because physical access to the network does not require physical access to the network equipment. Frames on wireless networks can be easily intercepted in transit with wireless network analysis software. Wireless networks also have additional authentication requirements. Without physical access to the equipment, users need to ensure that they are connecting to legitimate access points that are part of the organization's network, not "rogue" access points set up as part of a man-in-the-middle attack. In addition to the requirement for user (client) authentication, wireless network users also need to authenticate the networks they connect to.
These two requirements, strong encryption to prevent eavesdropping and mutual authentication to ensure that sensitive information is transmitted only over legitimate networks, must drive your wireless authentication strategy. In practice, only methods based on the IETF's well-known Transport Layer Security (TLS) standard can satisfy strict encryption and authentication requirements. Three TLS-based protocols have been developed for use with EAP and are suitable for deployments with wireless LANs:
- EAP-Transport Layer Security (EAP-TLS)
- Tunneled Transport Layer Security (TTLS)
- Protected EAP (PEAP)
Major differences between the protocols are summarized in this table:
Detailed Comparison of TLS-based Methods
|TTLS (Internet draft)
|PEAP(Internet draft)
|Client implementations
|Cisco, Funk, Meetinghouse, Microsoft, Open1x (open source)
|Funk, Meetinghouse
|Supported client platforms
|Linux, Mac OS X,Windows 95/98/ME, Windows NT/2000/XP
|Linux, Mac OS X, Windows 95/98/ME, Windows NT/2000/XP
|Windows XP
|Authentication server implementations by
|Cisco, Funk, HP, FreeRADIUS (open source), Meetinghouse, Microsoft
|Funk, Meetinghouse
|Authentication methods
|Client certificates
|Any EAP method[2]
|Protocol Operations
|Basic protocol structure
|Establish TLS session and validate certificates on both client and server
|Two phases: (1) Establish TLS between client and TTLS server (2) Exchange attribute-value pairs between client and server
|Two parts: (1) Establish TLS between client and PEAP server (2) Run EAP exchange over TLS tunnel
|Fast session reconnect
|WEP Integration
|Server can supply WEP key with external protocol (e.g. RADIUS extension)
|PKI and Certificate Processing
|Server Certificate
|Client Certificate
|Cert Verification
|Through certificate chain or OCSP TLS extension (current Internet draft)
|Effect of private key compromise
|Re-issue all server and client certificates
|Re-issue certificates for servers (and clients if using client certificates in first TLS exchange)
|Client and User Authentication
|Authentication direction
|Mutual: Uses digital certificates both ways
|Mutual: Certificate for server authentication, and tunneled method for client
|Mutual: Certificate for server, and protected EAP method for client
|Protection of user identity exchange
|Yes; protected by TLS
|Yes; protected by TLS
[1] Currently, CHAP, PAP, MS-CHAP, and MS-CHAPv2 are implemented in addition to EAP.
[2] Only the "generic token card" method is implemented in current shipping products.
EAP-TLS uses a TLS handshake as the basis for authentication. TLS has many attractive attributes that make attractive for security-related use. It is well documented and has been analyzed quite extensively. Study of the protocol has not yet revealed significant weaknesses in the protocol itself. (Several implementations have suffered from bugs, however.)
TLS authenticates peers by exchanging digital certificates. In EAP-TLS, certificates are used to provide authentication in both directions. The server presents a certificate to the client, and, after validating the server's certificate, the client presents a client certificate. Naturally, the certificate may be protected on the client by a passphrase, PIN, or stored on a smart card, depending on the implementation. One flaw in EAP-TLS protocol noted by many observers is that the identity exchange proceeds in the clear before exchange of certificates, so a passive attack could easily observe user names.
Digital certificates are the Achilles heel of EAP-TLS. The use of certificate authentication of clients mandates a concurrent PKI roll-out. If you do not already have a PKI in place, the additional work involved in issuing and managing certificates is quite large. In comparison with other PKI-enabled protocols, EAP-TLS may impose a greater certificate management overhead because of the need to revoke certificates as users have wireless LAN access revoked.
The bottom line: EAP-TLS is secure, but the requirement for client certificates is too big a hurdle for most institutions to deal with.
TTLS and PEAP
Both TTLS and PEAP were developed in response to the PKI barrier in EAP-TLS. Client certificates are not ideal for user authentication for a variety of reasons. Other older methods of user authentication are as secure as certificate-based authentication, but without the high management overhead. Both TTLS and PEAP were designed to use older authentication mechanisms while retaining the strong cryptographic foundation of TLS.
The structure of TTLS and PEAP are quite similar. Both are two-stage protocols that establish security in stage one and then exchange authentication in stage two. Stage one of both protocols establishes a TLS tunnel and authenticates the authentication server to the client with a certificate. (TTLS and PEAP still use certificates to authenticate the wireless network to the user, but only a few certificates will be required, so it is much more manageable.) Once that secure channel has been established, client authentication credentials are exchanged in the second stage.
TTLS uses the TLS channel to exchange "attribute-value pairs" (AVPs), much like RADIUS. (In fact, the AVP encoding format is very similar to RADIUS.) The general encoding of information allows a TTLS server to validate AVPs against any type of authentication mechanism. TTLS implementations today support all methods defined by EAP, as well as several older methods (CHAP, PAP, MS-CHAP and MS-CHAPv2). TTLS can easily be extended to work with new protocols by defining new attributes to support new protocols.
PEAP uses the TLS channel to protect a second EAP exchange. Authentication must be performed using a protocol that is defined for use with EAP. In practice, the restriction to EAP methods is not a severe drawback because any "important" authentication protocol would be defined for use with EAP in short order so that PEAP could use it. A far greater concern is client software support. PEAP is backed by Microsoft, and clients are beginning to become available for recent professional versions of Windows (XP now, with Windows 2000 support coming shortly). Suppliers of PEAP clients for other operating systems have yet to materialize, which may restrict PEAP to being used only in pure Microsoft networks.
One major difference between TTLS and PEAP as this article was written is that TTLS is much more widely implemented. TTLS products are available from multiple vendors and have been proven interoperable by a number of public demonstrations. TTLS software is also available for a wide range of client operating systems. In contrast, PEAP products are only beginning to come to market. The first public interoperable PEAP demonstration I am aware of took place at the Networld+Interop trade show in Atlanta last month. The demonstration required the use of a late pre-release copy of CiscoSecure ACS, the only authentication server that currently supports PEAP, as well as a Windows XP client. Although nothing in the PEAP specification prevents development of software for non-Windows systems, it is hard to see Microsoft taking the initiative to develop PEAP clients for other client platforms.
Selection of an authentication method is the key decision in securing a wireless LAN deployment. The authentication method drives the choice of authentication server, which in turn drives the choice of client software. Fortunately, selecting an authentication method is a reasonably straightforward endeavor. Unless you have a well-oiled PKI already deployed, bypass EAP-TLS to avoid the client certificate headaches. Though there is not a large technical difference between the TTLS and PEAP protocols, TTLS has a number of slight advantages. In addition to a slight degree of flexibility at the protocol level, products are available now and support a much wider variety of client operating systems.
Matthew Gast is a member of the business development team at NetScreen Technologies, where he works with strategic partners and alliances. He is also the author of O'Reilly's 802.11 Wireless Networks: The Definitive Guide.
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WASHINGTON – House Republicans have summoned the leaders of 13 federal agencies to a hearing next month to examine their plans to implement a sweeping climate change agenda that President Obama outlined in a June speech.
Organized by the Energy and Commerce Subcommittee on Energy and Power, the Sept. 18 hearing seeks information "from relevant federal agencies about U.S. climate change policies and the administration's second-term climate agenda, and to obtain fuller information regarding the federal government's past, current and planned domestic and international activities, climate research programs, initiatives, and new regulatory requirements," said subcommittee Chairman Edward Whitfield (R-Ky.).
Obama has called on Congress to develop market-based legislation to reduce emissions of heat-trapping greenhouse gases. But a great many congressional Republicans, including Whitfield, question the existence of man-made climate change, making legislative action a nonstarter.
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In response, Obama identified steps in his June speech that did not require congressional approval, including the controversial but potentially significant move to cut carbon dioxide emissions from power plants, the single largest domestic source of greenhouse gases. The Environmental Protection Agency is expected to introduce rules for new power plants in September and to propose standards for existing plants in June 2014.
"The president's plan to regulate new and existing power plants is not surprising," Whitfield said in June. "The president's action plan seeks to limit our nation's fuel choices and make coal-fired electricity generation in this country extinct."
The Sept. 18 hearing is the latest step by members of Congress, led largely by Republicans, to wrest a measure of control over the administration's climate change agenda.
Recently, the administration increased the "social cost of carbon," or the estimate of potential economic damage from carbon dioxide pollution used in setting standards and making rules. The Energy Department issued an update to its microwave oven standards requiring less energy use in so-called standby mode based on the new social cost of carbon calculation. As a consequence, industry and members of Congress are pushing back with hearings and legislation.
The hearing represents an about-face for Whitfield, who ignored 27 requests since 2011 by Democrats on his committee to hold hearings on climate change.
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"We absolutely should hear from administration witnesses about the threat of climate change," said Rep. Henry A. Waxman (D-Beverly Hills), the ranking member on the House Energy and Commerce Committee and a coauthor of the requests, along with Rep. Bobby L. Rush (D-Ill.). "We also should be hearing from the nation's leading scientists. Ever since the Republicans took over, the committee has been AWOL on the biggest energy issue facing the nation."
Whitfield has invited testimony from the Environmental Protection Agency, the Department of Energy, the Department of Health and Human Services, the Department of Agriculture, the Department of the Interior, the Department of Transportation, the Department of Defense, the Department of State, the U.S. Agency for International Development, the Export-Import Bank of the U.S., the Office of Science and Technology, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and the National Aeronautics and Space Administration.
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