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Is their any issues with duct mount smokes in clubs and such shuting down units with smoke machines in use. I need to put 6 in a skateing rink.
most smoke machines are not really smoke it is dry ice and water
but cigarrette smoke is different it really is smoke
Some smoke machines use Propylene Glycol, Glycerin, and Distilled Water (theatrical smoke).
These, obviously, don't set off smoke detectors (or they wouldn't work in theaters...).
Which makes more sense to you?
CONSERVATION - turning your thermostat back and being uncomfortable. Maybe saving 5-10%
ENERGY EFFICIENCY - leaving your thermostat where everyone is comfortable. Saving 30-70%
DO THE NUMBERS! Step on a HOMESCALE.
What is comfort? Well, it AIN'T just TEMPERATURE!
Energy Obese? An audit is the next step - go to BPI.org, or RESNET, and find an auditor near you.
Originally Posted by tedkidd
Some smoke machines use Propylene Glycol, Glycerin, and Distilled Water (theatrical smoke).
These, obviously, don't set off smoke detectors (or they wouldn't work in theaters...).
Can you explain. I've had steam set off detectors as well as dust. What is different about "fake smoke"?
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Originally Posted by 2sac
as well as dust
Ah yes good old dust setting off smoke alarms.. You try to be the good guy and brush off a dirty return grill in a store only to set off the fire alarm and they evacuate the whole shopping mall.
Nope never done that before.
2sac, I can't, sorry. Just know I use "zero toy" smokers to sniff out air leaks (with a blower door) and you can hold them up to smoke dterctors and they don't go off.
I think it's basically low temperature steam.
DONT do that with caustic smoke pencils, they WILL trigger alarms.
well...... I have..... way to many times....lol ..... fire department gets over it eventually.......
it was working.... played with it.... now its broke.... whats the going hourly rate for HVAC repair
To provide an answer for your original question, you will have to do some homework. Most theatrical fog machines use a water/glycol or a mineral oil mixture to produce fog. It is vaporized and discharged through a nozzle where it immediately condenses to fog. Water/glycol fog is much less likely to set off fire equipment compared to oil based. The main thing is what type of smoke detectors are present in the space. If they are the optical kind which sense particles in the air, you may have issues. If they are ionization type sensors, you will most likely have no problem at all. Of course, there is the possibility that the space has both!
Thanks to all for the info. has been some time sense i jacked with a detector. I just dont want that late nite saturday call!!!
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November 13, 2012 > Assisting with the climate action plan
Sahil Markanday, aged 14, is one of the youngest boy scouts to have recently completed his Eagle Scout project. Union City residents and the City's Climate Action Plan are the immediate beneficiaries of his efforts."Markanday and his crew of volunteers planted approximately 50 flowering trees and conifers around San Andreas Park to help expand the urban forest to sequester carbon as part of our Climate Action Plan," explained Union City Grounds Supervisor, Nelson Kirk. "The flowering trees and conifers will also form a canopy to shade the pathways for residents who regularly walk in the park. They also planted another 120 shrubs along the back-up area of the park."Eagle Scout is the highest attainable rank in boy scouting and requires years of dedication and hard work. Fewer than five percent achieve it. Remarkably, Markanday joined the Boy Scouts of America only in 2010. He has earned the 21 merit badges towards qualifying as an Eagle Scout; a dozen are compulsory and the remaining nine are elective. He has completed Camping, Citizenship in the Community, Citizenship in the Nation, Citizenship in the World, Communications, Emergency Preparedness, Environmental Science, First Aid, Hiking, Personal Management, Personal Fitness, Family Life, Pioneering, Weather, Fingerprinting, Leatherwork, Mammal Study, Music, Astronomy, Stamp Collecting and Wood Carving."The idea for my project arose from helping another scout with his Eagle Project," Markanday explained. "To prepare, I first contacted City of Union City Public Works Department to see if they had any available projects, met Nelson Kirk to discuss the project and the work it would entail, planned the project, put it in writing and took pictures of the project site. I sought volunteers to help and must thank my scout master, Bruce Chan, committee chairperson, John Gillen, and Eagle Coordinator Merl Nygren for approval of the project and their guidance. The Eagle Scout project, which took two months from inception to completion, was an opportunity to apply leadership skills that had been taught at the National Youth Leadership Camp which I attended in the summer."According to Markanday, completion of this project not only serves as a milestone for becoming an Eagle Scout but, above all, feeling that he has done something useful for the community and City in which he lives has given him immense satisfaction.As for the future, the James Logan High School student plans to attend medical school and continue his community involvement, mindful of the need to be a good human being, to help others and to live by the Scout Oath at all times."Union City owes the Boy Scouts of America a debt of gratitude," said Kirk. "Most of our Eagle Scout projects are dedicated to planting trees in neighborhood parks and along boulevards and roadsides. These young men have become stewards in our urban forest and we appreciate them and their parents' support."For more information about Scouting within the San Francisco Bay Area Council, visit www.sfbac.org. Alternatively contact Joe Barton at (510) 577-9227 and firstname.lastname@example.com or Steve Armstrong at firstname.lastname@example.com about the different scouting units in the Mission Peak District (serves Fremont, Union City and Newark) and Tres Ranchos District (serves Hayward, Castro Valley, San Lorenzo and San Leandro).For more information about Scouting within the Santa Clara County Council, visit www.scccbsa.org. Alternatively, contact Ken Schott at (408) 280-5088 or firstname.lastname@example.com about the different scouting units in the Coyote Creek District (serves Edenvale, Evergreen, Milpitas, Berryessa, Alum Rock, Mt. Pleasant, parts of downtown and East San Jose).

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To honor this week's A+ Athlete we head south to Howe, Texas, and meet Taylor Murray.
This week's A+ Athlete is Taylor Murray from Howe High School. This five-sport senior has won practically every award possible since first stepping foot on Howe High School's campus.
Murray has won first team all-district numerous times in both basketball and volleyball. She qualified for regionals in track in three different races, and for the last two years she's been an All-American nominee for cheerleading.
Did we mention she plays softball too? Howe sports won't be the same after she leaves.
Taylor has maintained a 4.7 grade point average on a 5-point scale. She's been a member of the National Honor Society for three years. She's the senior class president and still finds time to volunteer for Red Cross and Howe First Baptist Church. Even though Taylor does many times more than the average student, she remains humble about getting the award.
"I'm just happy I work hard enough to get it," Taylor says.
Next year she plans to attend either Oklahoma State University or Texas A&M University where she plans to study psychology or physical therapy.
Congratulations to Taylor Murray on being named this week's A+ Athlete.
We'll introduce you to another A+ Athlete every Friday here on First News AM. School officials, coaches, teachers, and counselors are encouraged to send in your nominees.
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JUNEAU — The Alaska House has passed legislation aimed at advancing an in-state natural gas pipeline project.
Monday night's 30-9 vote followed hours of debate and failed attempts led by minority Democrats to amend the bill, including to give the Regulatory Commission of Alaska authority to review and approve contracts to ensure "just and reasonable" gas costs.
Supporters see HB4 as necessary to help move a gas line project to an open season, the point at which interest would be gauged. Critics say they understand the desire to get gas to Alaskans but see the bill as too far-reaching, with limited oversight.
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Denver (AP) A middle school near the State Capitol is on lock down. While in a separate incident, a high school is evacuated after officials say ``something went off'' behind the building.
No injuries have been reported in either incident.
Douglas County Sheriff's spokeswoman Deputy Cocha Heyden says security staff at Ponderosa High School heard the loud noise shortly before 9 a.m., and decided to evacuate the building after a fire alarm sounded.
She says sheriff's deputies found a suspect outside the school who was carrying an unknown device. The device was secured, but authorities did not know what it was.
And a middle school near the state Capitol building is locked down, after students told the principal that a student may have been carrying a gun.
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RICHMOND – A community garage sale is in the works to raise money for the Richmond Police Department's K-9 unit.
The village is requesting the donation of gently used household items for the sale.
They can be dropped off at Richmond Village Hall, 5600 Hunter Drive, through Oct. 8. The Village Hall is open from 9 a.m. to 4 p.m. Monday through Friday.
The garage sale, which is being planned by the village's citizens police academy association, will take place 9 a.m. to 3 p.m. Oct. 10 through Oct. 12 at Memorial Hall Civic Theatre, 10308 Main St.
Much of the costs associated with the department's two canines – Brutus and Bear – is covered by Richmond Police Chief Ciro Cetrangolo, who is also the department's canine officer.
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The state has appointed a task force to investigate ways to minimize the risk of manure runoff contamination in streams and water sources.
During the past year, the state Department of Natural Resources reported 32 manure runoffs in Wisconsin.
The nitrogen and phosphorous contained in manure can contaminate streams and drinking water supplies through runoff.
Environmental and agricultural officials say careless application of manure and shortages in storage space cause runoffs. Manure applied to frozen ground is washed into nearby streams by rain.
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My 5 favorite apps for business (and one for fun): Joshua Coburn
Here are Joshua Coburn's favorite smartphone apps. As a motivational speaker and cofounder of Manners & Motivation, Coburn travels the United States inspiring young people.
My Smartphone: Samsung S4
My Tablet: I have a smartphone, who needs a tablet?
My five favorite apps
1. Evernote
My primary use for Evernote is the checklist function, but this app also keep track of travel itineraries, documents, meeting notes, and whiteboard images (you can file your images with your notes for convenience). You can also pile up research docs in one file/note and keep tabs on your finds to share with others. Evernote assists me in creating a plan and keeps me aligned with taking those small steps toward reaching big goals. Short and sweet, this app is one of the reasons I am successful in my life and career.
2. ooVoo
As a perpetual traveler, and someone with industry partners all over the country, ooVoo allows convenient and personal connections no matter where you are. The possibility of bringing in up to 12 others for a meeting or presentation is a major asset for business meetings. It's also simple to upload any important content to YouTube if your content needs to be shared publicly or is marketable. More importantly, communicating with my family is made easier with the video chat option. If time zones or busy schedules are misaligned, the video messaging option is perfect for saying goodnight to my kids, which is a huge priority for me.
3. Gateguru
Whether you have five minutes or five hours between flights, Gateguru is a handy tool to have in your back pocket. Finding a specific retail establishment to suit your needs, locating quality airport food (though elusive, it does exist!), or a quick coffee has never been easier. Not only that, checkpoint wait times are readily available for those of you running perpetually late or, like me, trying to absorb every last drop of local culture before you board. Terminal maps are included.
4.Google Drive
My team is spread across the country, and Google Drive is a perfect file sharing solution. Google Drive is an integral part of keeping tabs on file updates and who's making the necessary changes to those files. Google Drive also allows for larger files to be emailed or shared directly from your drive to others outside of your closed network when permission is given, thus keeping your sharing capabilities limitless. The other major benefit is that Google Drive can be used for file storage, which is accessible from any device at any time. The convenience of this option alone makes Google Drive a lifesaver.
5. Yelp!
Yelp is the ideal solution for travelers in an unfamiliar city to assist in navigating through the myriad of culinary options to find best of the best, as well as locate anything else you need. In order to maximize my time when traveling for business or pleasure, I often resort to restaurant reviews to guide me and Yelp allows me to do this on the go. If you are highly impressed or totally dissatisfied you also have the option to rate your restaurant in real time as well. Yelp is more than a simple dining recommendation engine; it's akin to having a local give you a tour of their city. Yelp has assisted me in diving into local culture, exploring areas off the beaten path, and interacting with wonderful citizens I otherwise would not have had the pleasure of meeting.
My favorite app for fun
One for fun? Instagram all the way. I primarily speak to students on the Manners & Motivation Tour and often shake thousands of hands a week but, sadly, I am terrible with names. With Instagram being so popular among the younger set, I was persuaded to jump aboard to better connect and I have found that this social media tool conveniently allows me to associate faces with names. Not only that, I am able to keep in touch with those I meet to share a little more of our lives in order to keep the inspirational messages thriving in their lives for the long term.
A former body modification artist and small business owner, Joshua Coburn has transitioned to corporate America as a promotional marketer. Coburn is also an author and life coach who can be found speaking to middle schools, high schools, youth and church groups, and colleges on subjects ranging from body modification and tattoo culture to career planning, self-confidence, peer pressure and self-actualization. He is the author of "Inspiration on Demand" and "Through the EYES of an Abstract Mind."


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Hans David Petersen, 100, of Ames and formerly of Estherville, died on Sunday, Feb. 24, 2013 at Rolling Green Village in Nevada, Iowa. He was born on Nov. 29, 1912 in rural Emmett County; the son of Peter and Else (Simonsen) Petersen and the oldest of four children. Hans farmed the family farm in Emmett County beginning in his late teens and left the farm when he moved to Des Moines to begin working for the Iowa Airplane Co as a mechanic. With the onset of WWII, Hans worked at the Gilbert Airport where he met Ardyce Weigel in May, 1943. Following a four month courtship, they married on Sept. 21, 1943 at St. Cecilia's Catholic Church in Ames. Ardyce died on May 11, 2012.
Hans and Ardyce moved to Swea City following the war to continue farming, where they remained until their retirement in 1974. They relocated one last time to Ames in 2003. During his years farming, Hans sold and installed Reclamo Oil Filters. Hans was a lifetime Indian Motorcycle rider and rebuilt a 1941 Scout with his oldest son, Dan, in the mid 1970s. Hans and Ardyce loved to travel on the motorcycle. He also repaired and restored Edison Phonographs and enjoyed listening to them.
Hans was preceded in death by his wife, Ardyce; sons, Daniel and Mark; two infant great-grandsons and his siblings. He is survived by his children Treva Petersen, Dale (Suzanne) Petersen, Rosalie Petersen and Nina Barroso all of Ames, and Paul (Sharon) Petersen of Estherville; daughter-in-law, Nancy Petersen of Estherville; 12 grandchildren; 16 great-grandchildren and numerous nieces and nephews.
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A Mass of Christian Burial will be held on Saturday, March 9, 2013 at 10:30 a.m. at St. Cecilia Catholic Church. A visitation and prayer vigil on will be held on Friday at 7 p.m. at the the church. As a show of sympathy, memorial contributions should be directed to the family. On-line condolences may be expressed at www.StevensMemorialChapel.com. Stevens Memorial Chapel is assisting the family.


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MOOCs, sensors, apps and games: The revolution in education innovation
Massive Open Online Courses (MOOCs) have been touted by some as the breakthrough that will transform education. Top universities such as MIT, Harvard, and the University of California at Berkeley are scrambling to make their lectures available online. Gov. Jerry Brown (D-Calif.) described one such program a trial effort between online course platform Udacity and San Jose State University as being about our society, our future and how we can all improve our skills, how we can exercise our imagination.
Brown is right, but todays online courses are just a baby step forward on educations path to transformation, particularly early childhood education. Khan Academy founder Salman Khan will likely be seen in the near future as the modern-day equivalent of the radio star who first appeared on television, microphone in hand.
Early education used to be delivered on a one-to-one basis. The craftsman passed down what he knew to the apprentice and parents imparted knowledge to their children. Then came the one-to-many model, with classrooms and eventually textbooks to facilitate learning via standardized lessons. The video-based learning of MOOCs is another incarnation of this one-to-many model, offering a window into the otherwise traditional classroom.
Social networking is allowing for some of the more profound changes in modern education, offering a viable many-to-many model. MOOC platforms such as Udacity, Udemy, and Open Study are beginning to use Facebook-like applications to enable students to share ideas and coach one another. These applications allow students to rank online content and discuss what they learned. Gooru provides a search engine to help find pieces of knowledge and then assemble them into comprehensive lessons. Think of it as crowdsourcing the course-creation process. The collective knowledge of millions could lead to dramatic improvements in the quality of online education while growing the volume of courses exponentially.
But all of this is still just the beginning of the education revolution. We are headed back to the one-to-one model with instruction geared towards the individual rather than the group.
Adaptive learning platforms, such as the one Knewton is developing, start by understanding a students strengths and weaknesses and then suggest an appropriate learning path. These keep improving their recommendation engines by keeping track of what videos students with different backgrounds and strengths watch and how they perform on tests.
There are thousands of apps that teach subjects such as history, geography, music, mathematics, and science. Adaptive technologies stand to make these standalone apps more effective and personalized. One app that I tested on the Aakash tablet is by a company with offices in the U.S. and India called Mango Learning. It teaches students math through games, which grow more challenging at each level. If the child doesnt understand fractions the way they are taught in, say, India, the app allows the child to switch to a Chinese teaching method.
But is there a method of detecting whether a student has learned anything? Quizzes and tests are imperfect measures. Enter, sensor-based technology, which could detect the interest, learning, and emotion of the student.
For example, NeuroSky markets a headset called MindWave that the company says measures brainwave signals and transmits them via Bluetooth to a mobile device. The $99 device, according to the company, detects the attention level of students as they learn mathematics, science, or any other pattern-recognition disciplines. Affectiva is developing a biosensor bracelet called Q Sensor to measure electrodermal activity, which changes based on ones emotional state. Ideally, the sensor would detect when a student is anxious, bored or excited.
Now, imagine the digital tutor of the future. If a child likes reading books, it teaches mathematics and science in a traditional way. If that doesnt work, the tutor tries videos. If thats too boring, it switches to games or puzzles. The digital tutor takes the student into holographic simulations to teach history, culture, and geography. It teaches art and music through collaboration. The tutor, via sensor data, knows what the child has learned and the time of day when he or she learns the most. It asks experts from all around the world the questions it cant answer. It tells the parents how the child is doing whenever they want to know. It becomes the childs trusted guide a teacher tailor-made to fit them.
Washington Post Co. Chairman and chief executive Donald E. Graham is a member of Facebooks board of directors.
Sure, why do we need human interaction for anything?
I just love it when Im in a social setting and everyone has their heads buried in their cell phones on instagram.
Banks being hacked into, identity theft, bullying on line, the break down of social interaction, yeah, lets give into, lets make it worse.
Because we all know that Bill Gates, Zuckerberg and Steve Jobs were just fine human beings looking out for the good of all people with the way they treated their employees and others around them.
Just stick those kids in front of a computer screen, that'll work!
But the tide is beginning to turn and many citizens are beginning to see that the perception of our school system in shambles and that teachers were the cause of this was just a made up story by politicians with a monetary agenda. They are beginning to realize that they were tricked by their government into thinking that teachers were the cause of all the countries down falls. Tricked into handing over all the money that is meant for education to test corporations. Thankfully citizens are stepping up:
I have a "career win" situation because ultimately my students trust that I am guiding them in the right direction. I have had numerous former students come back to me as successful adults to thank me for being more than just a teacher but also a father figure. You cannot put a price on those moments. Many of the students who come back successful adults were troubled as a youth. They tell me it wasnt until years later that "it clicked." That the message their teachers were telling them made sense. Its part of the reason why a single test cannot judge a teacher. My message to my students are to respect others and themselves, work hard and question questionable leaders when you feel that they are unjust. These things will never show up on a test score but are so much more important for individual success.
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I've learned valuation and analysis for free from some of the same professors at top universities where I'd be spending $50k. I received the same sociable education as many others throughout the public school system, and went to a public university, but this still serves me well. I'm all for it, as long as people realize that it is not intended to replace a full formal education.
Regarding homeschooling: there is something to be said for kids learning to read early, count early, etc. Kids who go to Kindergarten knowing how to read do better. I do not think that can be refuted.
I like the sensor idea. Done properly teaching methods, teachers, teaching styles and teaching settings can all be evaluated. The good stuff promoted and the bad done away with. This in my (somewhat uninformed) opinion is BRILLIANT!
My mother was doing that in the late 40s. Responsible parenting.
I believe very few (any) parents are capable of the full range of home schooling.
Literature, history, foreign language, advanced math, advanced science, music, art, phys ed., practical arts. Hard to believe.


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In-depth informations about EA82 ECUs
Posted 22 June 2007 - 07:02 PM
So now, the ECU seems to work, the LED is blinking and the starter cranks, but the engine won't fire on, the cause seems to be no spark, could be the fuel pump, too.
I was told that the ECU is always damaged when the battery connectors are confused since it's directly and always connected to the plus pole through the fusible links for storing the fault codes (you can check this with the FSM)
So, something was damaged inside the ECU but not that terrible that the basic functions aren't working anymore. But what is damaged?
I have opened the whole unit and the electronic isn't that complex (as you can guess with a design of the 80ies) that you can't fix it by yourself, but without better informations or a cicuit diagram this would take some real amount of time. So, are there any in-depth informations about the ECUs? Or has anyone even find that faulty electronic component?
Main cause for doing the work: ECUs are rare and expensive here in Germany and I have some kind of power problem with my non-Turbo MPFI car/engine which is now driven by a Turbo MPFI ECU which is possibly related to using the "wrong" ECU. So I want to rule that out before searching for the error...
Posted 22 June 2007 - 10:22 PM
Posted 22 June 2007 - 10:35 PM
These parts cost about 250+ US$ here in Germany (more than a whole car btw) and are more rare than rear break discs! Ah, and this are used ones I just live in the wrong country...
Posted 23 June 2007 - 02:50 AM
ECU's do not always fry when the battery connections are crossed. in my experience, the fusible link fails more often than the ECU and the ECU occassionally fails.
i've heard of people opening them up and finding the failed part...pretty sure it was a resistor or was that transistor? the information may be on this board, have you searched?
i think i fried one last year, when i opened it up i could not find any particular parts or traces that were damaged. unfortunately mine is a freak of EA82's and has been a bear to deal with ever since. it's a unicorn 1987.5 XT Turbo that i converted to non-turbo. swapping electronics on an XT of that vintage is not a fun task.
Posted 23 June 2007 - 03:01 AM
Posted 23 June 2007 - 04:38 AM
I want to clarify something here, a non turbo MPFI ECU may be less simple and more expensive, even for a statesider, to obtain.. BUT we DO at least have a chance to see one in a junkyard. If I were you, I would make a post, with a subject of "Are you in North America? do you go to junkyards?" begging for someone to find and ship you an ECU. Even though it is a "parts wanted" post, I think that your current situation would justify posting it in the "older gen" tech forum, where it will get more views.
You're not serious?
These parts cost about 250+ US$ here in Germany (more than a whole car btw) and are more rare than rear break discs! Ah, and this are used ones I just live in the wrong country...
Are you the German who just last summer used a turbo ECU in his non turbo car to get it home??????? if NOT, then I have you confused with another german member who swapped turbo/non turbo ECUS (i forget whether his car was turbo or the ECU he installed was a Turbo) with no problems a year or so ago.. SO, if you are NOT the person I am thinking of then there is a decent vote from one of your own countrymen on this forum that says that the turbo/non turbo ECU question is urrelevant.
Posted 23 June 2007 - 04:44 AM
what vehicle is this for again? it's a loyale right?
Posted 23 June 2007 - 08:00 AM
And yes, I was able to get this car home with no problem, but I noticed some kind of lacking power between about 2.500 and 4.000 RPM, but since I was using highways most the time without many hills and avoiding cities, I really didn't need to accelerate much and I believed that this was some kind of imagination or some specific problem with the car. But it runs well with about 32 mpg and over 100 mph (we are allowed to drive that speed on some parts of the highways). So I thought it was perhaps related to some other part of the car or to the missing knock sensor (which the MPFI engine is lacking and the Turbo-ECU wants it)
Yeah, but now that engine is in my GL-10 (should be match the US types best) , together with that Turbo ECU because the original one isn't working, and I notice this lack of power, too. And everything is different besides the engine and the fuel pump. I installed the knock sensor some weeks ago, changed oil, spark plugs, ignition cables and ignition coil, but the problem is still there. And before getting more into this I want to rule out that it could be related to the ECU although I doubt that, but you never know... And fixing it up should be very easy if you know what part is damaged, so I really didn't search for a spare ECU...
The search function isn't really helping because searching for "ECU" gets no results, I guess words with three letters are too short.
Hmm, the "power problem": If you accelerate up from 1.000 rpm everything is fine until about 2.500 rpm: There you feel some kind of power loss, it feels like the car isn't getting enough fuel and it bucks a bit, but not much. The car still accelerates but slower. And starting with about 4.000 rpm, it's like a boost and runs fine again. It's not really bad if you drive normal, but it's worse when you try to climb a hill... And we have some decent ones here around And I want to fix that up together with the other parts of the car during summer.
Thanks for shipping! You indeed forget to write about it
Posted 23 June 2007 - 08:59 AM
The fuel pump circuit won't turn on unless the ECU sees pluses from the distributor CAS circuit. You can check the fuel pump circuit by listening for the pump when you turn the key to the RUN position. It should run briefly. If you don't hear it at first try cranking the engine briefly and then try it again. If you still don't hear it then something is wrong.
Since the error light is working hopefully you are getting a code 13 which would indicate a problem with the CAS sensor in the disty.
Posted 23 June 2007 - 09:50 AM
I have repaired a few ECUs from models like yours in the past. A couple of them needed new pre-driver transistors (TO-92 style) to get the fuel pump circuit running..
could you elaborate on where and how to locate that transistor. after crossing up the battery cables, if i wired the fuel pump directly my XT Turbo would run fine. if i didn't the computer didn't blink any codes and the fuel pump would not prime. not too mention this vehicle would run (not well, but it would run) on an XT6 (yes a 6 cylinder ECU in a 4 cylinder vehicle). it ran enough to tell me that the engine and other sensors were working fine.
anyway, i opened the ECU and couldn't find anything obvious...but i am very novice at electrical boards and such.
Posted 23 June 2007 - 10:31 AM
Your unit may have a different problem since the polarity was reversed. My unit just quit after the alternator was replaced. I think the higher output of the new alternator took out the weak'nd junctioned.
Posted 23 June 2007 - 11:56 AM
1. The fuel pump isn't running. I verified it with the green test connector, with my working ECU the fuel pump kicks in every few seconds, with the damaged one nothing happens!
2. I tried to start the engine - and it fired up instantly!! It just lasted for a few seconds as the pressure in the fuel line disappeared, but that's very, very good!
3. The ECU throws absolute no error codes.
So, it seems just to be a burnt circuit inside the ECU which controls the fuel pump. If anyone could give me a hint on which parts I need to have a look, it would be great, otherwise I will try to find anything burnt...
Posted 23 June 2007 - 11:57 AM
so please check that first, you sound like you know enough about ea82s to do this right, but everybody makes stupid mistakes and it took me 3 months to figure it out....
Posted 23 June 2007 - 12:21 PM
funny we've been communicating all this time off the board and have the exact same problem, cause and situation. i could have typed that thread you just posted, identical situation.
So, it seems just to be a burnt circuit inside the ECU which controls the fuel pump. If anyone could give me a hint on which parts I need to have a look, it would be great, otherwise I will try to find anything burnt...
let's keep each other informed on anything we find out. all i can say now is that i didn't see anything obvious when i uncovered the ECU, but im' not a pro. hopefully Cougar will respond with more details and help us out. oh, i see he did respond, thanks a bunch. do you remember Cougar if you had the same symptoms, everything appeared fine but the fuel pump circuit was faulty? i'm betting this same transistor will be our problem. i'll try to grab that ECU and get some pictures of the internals. i have a multimeter so i can test with some guidance. i just happen to be in the state where that vehicle is right now, so perfect timing. thanks guys!
Posted 23 June 2007 - 01:14 PM
Cougar, please have look and perhaps you remember which part was faulty. It's a pita to test all components without a circuit diagramm...
Yeah, there are coincidences all the time So let's try to solve this problem and I guess we could help many other people with a faulty ECU, too!
Posted 23 June 2007 - 03:03 PM
The transistor I replaced is similar in style and location as Q600. That is a TO92 style. I'm not sure but, Q702 may be the transistor that is tied to the fuel pump ground lead. By tracing the lead from the fuel pump lead connection it should lead you to the proper driver transistor if that isn't the correct one. The transistor I replaced was the stage before the driver stage unit.
Using a meter in the diode check position should work in finding the problem if it is a transistor. You need to be aware of the circuit it is tied to though for any possible discrepancy in the reading, as it could mislead you in thinking the transistor is bad and it really is good. It just depends on how the circuit is designed and what it is tied to. This takes experience to figure it out.
Hopefully you have the same problem I did. The replacement transistor was less than 2 dollars.
I will be gone for the afternoon today but will be back this evening to check back with you.
Posted 23 June 2007 - 05:01 PM
The system is somewhat hmm strange: There is an always powered positive wire connected to the fuel pump relay which is switched by the ECU (but this circuit can't be damaged since it is not directly connected to the positive pole of the battery. If this circuit would be damaged, there must be more damages in the electronic). From the fuel-pump relay the current is routed to the fuel pump and from it to the ECU where the ground is switched by this transisor.
It's a bit odd that this ignition control for running the pump is solved outside the ECU when the pump itself is also controlled inside the ECU one more time, but OK, could be possible that this security circuit was implemented after the first design or that it's some kind of extra safety.
Nonetheless: The transisor is designed to beat 7V difference between Base and Emitter and I guess with switching the polarity this difference is somehow higher and so the "switch" get destroyed. I have no other explanation. I don't know how this could happen after changing the alternator, but I guess this transistor is just one weak point of the design. The circuit should simply be protected by a diode and everything would be fine. Perhaps this was designed in another way first and inserting this fuel-pump relay changed the circuits so that there is no protection any more.
OK, I have friend who worked at an electronic company (Lear Corporation) and I'm pretty sure that he can get me one piece of this transistors or some equivalent modell on monday
In the meantime I could try to directly ground the circuit and bypass the transistor switch. Should be a working solution for testing...
Edit: I don't really understand why JECS used this power transistor which is designed for up to 20 A and does not simply use a relay for switching the pump on and off. Especially since there is already this fuel pump relay involved. Very strange... This transistor creates a lot of heat and therefore it's connected to the metall case of the ECU so that the heat could be lead away... Here is the datasheet of the transistor.
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Perhaps I will make a circuit diagramm if I find some good tool for it. But now I have to repair my WLAN-Internet connection first
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Posted 29 June 2007 - 09:39 PM
Some minor update: Q600 and Q702 are both in good condition, but it seems that Q701, which is some sort of pre-amplifier of Q702 is damaged. But we couldn't confirm this yet, so stay tuned
This is exactly the same problem I found in the two units I worked on. The stage before the final output was bad.
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2011 OWASP International Board of Directors Election
The OWASP Foundation was established in 2001 as an open community and software security resource. Since then, OWASP has grown to be globally recognized as a credible source for application security standards (see industry citations). Individuals typically find OWASP when searching the internet for information about software security - and they are happy to find a reliable source of knowledge built by an extremely open and passionate community. OWASP is open to anyone. Anyone can attend OWASP's vendor agnostic local chapter meetings, participate in regional and global conferences, and contribute to the many OWASP projects. And anyone can start a new project, form a new chapter, or lend their expertise to help an OWASP Global Committee.
The OWASP Foundation Board of Directors consists of six elected volunteers. These unpaid volunteers dedicate themselves to the organizational mission, supporting the OWASP Global Committees and playing a pivotal role in the software security community. OWASP conducts democratic elections of its Board Members and Committee Chairs to enable bottom-up advancement of its mission. Each year, half of the Board seats, and all of the Committee Chair seats, are up for election by the then-current registered members.
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2011 Candidate Interviews
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2011 Candidates / Contributions and Accomplishments
* Christian Heinrich - BIO & why vote for me? - NEW Candidate
* Dave Wichers - BIO & why vote for me? - Re-Election / Vote of Confidence
* Michael Coates - BIO - Why Vote For Me? - NEW Candidate
* Sebastien Deleersnyder - BIO & why vote for me? - Re-Election / Vote of Confidence
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OWASP Individual Members and Supporters registered as of 30-June-2011 have one (1) vote per seat (there are 3 seats up for election)
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Milestone #1 Confirmed Candidate Official Announcement will be announced on 9-June-2011 at Global AppSec Europe in Dublin, Ireland. Candidates should declare their candidacy by 8-June-2011 by logging into the wiki, editing the wiki by inserting their name, and linking to their user profile that shall have a WHY ME summary of how they plan to help the OWASP Foundation and what they have done in OWASP to be considered an accomplished and proven leader in the community.
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