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And it's from Apple.
So it's doubly perfect. It's not like Mac OS has any security problems either.
So nothing to see here.
Mac OS X has security problems because it allows running executables and non-signed programs too. iPhone on the other hand doesn't, so trojans and such wont work. The only possible way is to exploit a vulnerability, but that doesn't happen every day and should be pretty quickly patched by Apple (doesn't the phone network push updates automatically?). And if there's a new exploit, antivirus software are just as bad in protecting against it.
This entire thing is just laughable. "we can't write A/V software for your product because no one can write software for the iphone that is, or that stops, viruses". So, they're asking Apple to create the problem, which they will then be able to sell a fix for.
Just HOW stupid do they think we all are?
The only people right now that have any use for antivirus or antimalware software for their iphone are those that have jailbroken them, in which case they could also install and run AV software But there's not a big enough market for that at this point. If they really wanted to write it, they could, right now. There's just not enough profit in it yet.
Anti-virus/anti-malware always seems to be a shitty bandaid to a badly designed system. Even running Windows 7, with UAC on, non-administrative account 99.999% time, always a non-IE browser, and very strict on what I run as
Also, people forget this is supposed to be a portable device, even a phone sometimes. Remember what most A/V does to your desktop? I don't run A/V on my notebook, and I actually do want a decent battery life on my phone, as hard as that is to believe.
However, I know there will be problems with the iPhone. I do wish its safari had the option of "noscript" and stronger adblock plus than its own system among other things. And that when you do use it for the first time, it would have a video on safe usage. You can't upgrade or improve the user, the weakest link, but at least you can try to lead that horse to water that is education.
non-administrative account 99.999% time
always a non-IE browser
Not sure how important this is with IE8 and Win7-- IEs protected mode vs Chrome's sandbox vs whatever firefox has may be a wash. Chrome and IE may even have a leg up on firefox.
and very strict on what I run as
If you start downloading unsigned executables from untrusted sources this will always be a risk. You may want to make sure that A) youre not relying on ad-aware as your primary AV (as it isnt an AV! might as well use clamwin if you dont want active scanning) and B) your plugins (im looking at you, adobe reader!) are up to date-- t
I deal with malware quite a bit. The most common infection source I have seen lately has been unpatched adobe reader, java, or flash plugins. That and people who click those "Your computer has registry error" banners and install whatever it asks them too. WSUS makes keeping all the systems on a network updated with Windows updates very simple, but unless you have a tightly controlled environment keeping all the plug-ins and such updated automatically is much more difficult. Home users can use the excell
PS - as for your other comment, I remember on other stories how people were insisting that Iphones ran OS X... Obviously it does when it's something to brag about, and it doesn't when it's a problem, I guess.
Look at it the other way: it's perfect, until it's not closed.
What I mean is that Apple is doing the right thing. They should continue to deny anti-virus vendors from selling their warez, at least until there's a proven threat. And so far, there are none. From Apple's viewpoint, it's a great marketing tool to be so confident in their security that they won't compromise it by letting AV software on the platform. And for everyone who knows just how crappy AV software usually is (and how bad it drags down performance) it really is good news.
Seriously. As long as Apple keeps patching the holes the jail breakers use (which they seem to do within days) there simply are no credible threats. Oddly enough, this means the jail breakers are actually their best allies, in that they absolutely have the strongest motivations to hack the iPhone; and since their jailbreaks must necessarily be public to be useful, Apple can keep in lockstep with them.
That also means Apple must continue to keep it tightly closed, and never permit leaky crapware like Flash to run on it. Which indirectly benefits the rest of us, as that means sites that want to play nice with iPhones may provide usable Flash-free alternatives. We can hope, anyway.
If you don't void the user agreement by jailbreaking your iPhone, you don't have this problem. Apple set up the environment. As it's designed, users are protected. If you choose to negate that design, you may have problems.
Where is Apple's liability if you don't use it as designed (or as dictated in the UA)?
If you don't void the user agreement by jailbreaking your iPhone, you don't have this problem. Apple set up the environment. As it's designed, users are protected. If you choose to negate that design, you may have problems.
Also, if you jailbreak (and thereby opt out of Apples managed environment) - you can run an anti-virus if you want, if you can find it, right?
If Apple opens up the iPhone to allow third-party anti-virus programs to run, guess what will happen? All of a sudden there will be viruses for the iPhone. Gee, I wonder why Apple doesn't want to do that?
No sympathy from me for people using hacked iPhones and getting trojans since they knew the risks when they hacked it.
I realize that this is near-mandatory pain on Windows, alas, but there will have to be pretty significant threats before I would consider running such a thing on my phone.
At the moment, the only worms faced by the iPhone have targeted unlocked, jailbroken devices — so Apple's not too bothered protecting users of such phones.
Of course, it's just better for Apple if the viruses do go around in jailbroken devices.
And how would iphone support antivirus anyway? It can only run one program at a time.
Cue someone suggesting that because of that limitation running the antivirus would thus stop the virus from running.
And how would iphone support antivirus anyway? It can only run one program at a time.
Apparently it can only present one UI, but can presumably run several things. Hence the required help from Apple that the security firms asked for.
And if there are farting apps, there's no reason why there shouldn't be an icondom (or whatever).
Only third party apps are barred from running in the background.
Apple apps can and do run in the background which is why any AV company would have to work with Apple.
From the summary, F-Secure: "'Apple hasn't been too interested in developing antivirus solutions for the iPhone, because there are no viruses, which of course, isn't exactly true.' .
No, indeed, only jailbroken phones were infected. Thus the obvious solution for F-Secure would be to bring out an app in Cydia or other app stores for jailbroken devices.
Of course, rather than do something, their execs prefer to spend their time whining.
Yep, if they are worried, just push it out to Cydia. Of course most (before someone comes whining, I did not say all!) of the users with jailbroken phones use pirated software, so there's no money in that.
I buy software from Cydia you insensitive clod !
But I wouldn't buy an AV, I already have one. It's called passwd.
Apart from the fact that it's a very unstable environment to develop in, both in a end-user as technical way.
*If* a company like AV would choose to sell a app purely targeted at jailbroken phones and distribute that app via other sources than the Apple Appstore.
Would apple have any legal ground to stop that distribution?
Yep, if they are worried, just push it out to Cydia. Of course most (before someone comes whining, I did not say all!) of the users with jailbroken phones use pirated software, so there's no money in that.
Citation needed. Because that's some serious bull you're peddling there and certainly not borne out by my experience.
If it's like desktop anti-virus, it will have its own vulnerabilities, take up more resources than I'd like, cause buggy behaviour or incompatibilities with other apps, and feed me false positives too often.
I don't need that on my phone. Since the only real malware we've seen for the iphone involves jailbreaking and then not properly managing your phone, I can do without.
Exactly, and that's why F-Secure says "well the iPhone is not exactly invulnerable" but then forgets to put their software on Cydia.
But it does protect you, because after the resources Norton Antivirus takes, there's none left to actually run anything!
I can imagine what Norton Antivirus will look like on the iPhone. [...] battery life would be cut in half [...]
Cutting my current iPhone its batterylife in half would mean that I need a USB connection in the toilet. Just to be able to browse Slashdot while taking a dump.
What I think is most telling about that quote is how an AV company has blurred the distinction between a "virus" and what basically amounts to a default password security hole. Sorry, but how does that make me want to trust you to run software on my device if you don't care to demonstrate you know the difference between these two types of attack?
The only reason why the jailbroken phones were vulnerable was because the default SSH password was not changed. No amount of AV is going to protect against a user's stupidity. This statement by F-Secure is about the money-making opportunity they're dying to exploit, and they're clearly riding the wave of negative publicity surrounding the closed platform nature of the iPhone.
No amount of AV is going to protect against a user's stupidity.
And no amount of AV is going to protect against vendor/distributor stupidity either. Here we have a program, running on a non-firewalled device, which on install, instead of being non-functional, opens up to the whole world with a default password. This is not the 1990's people! In this day and age, I expect a program to be secure by default... whatever it takes, even if it means it is non-functional at install.
I actually have a jailbroken
You could have installed MobileTerminal and changed the password locally on the device.
(Hey, this is kind of fun, having the same discussion twice: once full, once abbreviated)
I'll break the abbreviation and throw in a new argument: if you're smart enough to get that SSH == Secure SHell and you know what a shell is, then you ought to be smart enough to change your password. If you're the kind of user that installs anything that sounds cool even though though you don't really know what it does, then you should work on fixing that
I love how everyone pretends that recent trojan targeted "jailbroken" iPhones.
It didn't. It targeted stupid users who happened to have a jailbroken iPhone. Specifically, it targeted users who install OpenSSH without changing the default password (ignoring warnings to the effect). There's no vulnerability here, and a stock jailbroken iPhone is not vulnerable. The same exact kind of malware can affect every poorly configured UNIX system out there - for example, that router-based botnet that infected routers with default SSH passwords running Linux. There are tons of Linux rootkits out there too, and servers with poor passwords are rooted all the time. Does that mean we urgently need craptacular AV software on all Linux boxes?
On the other hand, it is true that a non-jailbroken iPhone has an extra layer of protection in the form of compulsive executable signing. Apple ostensibly has superior security (in non-jailbroken devices), but that's just because they lock down the device tight. It's "good" old Trusted Computing, the kind that does not trust the user. By jailbreaking the device, you're freeing yourself from nanny Apple's oversight. If it turns out you were better off with it, well, that's your own fault.
It's "good" old Trusted Computing, the kind that does not trust the user.
And judging by the latest iPhone trojan, which only works if a user is dumb enough to jailbreak their phone then leave the default ssh password (which is "alpine", btw) in place, it would appear that Apple is right not to trust them.
You can install MobileTerminal and change the password before enabling OpenSSH, which isn't rocket science. OpenSSH need not be enabled with an insecure password for any amount of time.
Anyway, this is a nontrivial issue to solve. There could be a GUI-based password change request, but that doesn't hook very well into the apt-based installer. OpenSSH could enable pubkey authentication by default, but that's incredibly inconvenient to get your public key into in the first place. A better solution might be to
Then to think that this is on the iPhone platform, where people are expecting to just download an app an
No program should install a backdoor on any system, and this is what openssh on the iPhone did by default!
But it doesn't. It does exactly the same thing installing OpenSSH on any other non-iPhone system does. The only difference is that on other systems you typically have set the passwords yourself, while on the iPhone Apple (not the jailbreak) set them for you.
Then to think that this is on the iPhone platform, where people are expecting to just download an app and look at it maybe later, this is a nightmar
Except of course this is not an iPhone nightmare, it is a Jailbroken iPhone nightmare. You should not have taken the extraordinary steps to jailbreak your iPhone if you have absolutely no idea what you are doing. Nothing anyone has bought from the app store has installed a vulnerability (yet anyway).
Once you decided to jailbreak your iPhone, you forfeited your right to complain.
But if Apple allows it then they can sell anti-virus to people who don't need it. For instance, most iPhone users. That's what they really want.
...and here it is:
Some fella develops and distributes some serious virus that "shuts down" a big number of iPhones...
This generates [bad] publicity for the device...
The media pick the story up...(in the meantime, it's "damage control" for Apple)...
Android is touted as the best alternative...
Motorola and Co. jump on the bandwagon...
What next? profits, numbers and market share for the Droid.
Question is: Am I wrong?
Except that this scenario is next-to-impossible on stock iPhones, because of the aforementioned code-signing restrictions, sandboxed applications and other mechanisms which prevent this from being a general problem.
Jailbreaking your phone makes all these safety nets go away: the kernel is patched so that it will run anything and applications are permitted to roam free across all of the device. At that point, you are on your own as far as security goes. If you, as a user, willfully ignore the instructions saying "Use 'passwd' to change the default password!!", then the resulting compromise of your iPhone is *entirely* your fault, and Apple doesn't even have to do "damage control". A rooted Android phone would suffer the same problems.
Except that this scenario is next-to-impossible on stock iPhones, because of the aforementioned code-signing restrictions, sandboxed applications and other mechanisms which prevent this from being a general problem.
Add to that the fact that there are an incredible amount of very smart people actively looking for security flaws in the iphone in order to facilitate jailbreaking and unlocking, holes which are then diligently patched by Apple. The jailbreaking community is actually helping Apple to harden its device.
Be fair now - they couldn't find anything else for today's daily Iphone Slashvertisement, so they had to run with this.
I tend to be wary when using my crystal ball, but this time I want to make a prediction: This is an intended development, and we'll see more of it in the future. Jailed devices that are deemed intrinsically secure. People who dare to unlock their device not only open themselves up for infections, they also can't get any help to make their devices secure again because everyone who could or would offer them this help is locked out.
Now add laws that started to creep into our legislative where you're legally responsible for it if your device is insecure and doing something illegal.
In the long run, you will only be secure and not responsible for anything your device does if you don't mind not owning it.
Well, I don't know what the legal situation is for providing software for a product that is allegedly illegal, i.e. av soft for a jailbroken device. Probably the train of thought is that people who break copy restrictions on their device will not bother to buy software but rather just use it "illegally" too. I guess it's not a whine for a lost platform and wanting other platforms to be as flawed and insecure, I think it's more a want of a stable legal situation.
And, personally, I think a jailed device is no
... that be used by any tom , dick or harry and screw up or silently alter the functioning of the kernel?
Oh , shame. I guess they'd better stick to using Windows if that's the sort of enviroment these antivirus writers are happy working in.
This is even more stupid than their attempt to sell antivirus for Palm OS.
There is no mechanism for transmission between one iPhone and another UNLESS the iPhone is jailbroken.
So Symantec only needs to write antivirus for jailbroken iPhones. And Apple would have no way to prevent them. So what's their problem?
"While Apple claims that the iPhone's closed nature offers protection to its users"
It's NOT obscurity in this case! "Closed" here describes sandboxing/etc. mechanisms, which might just as well be OSS (AppArmour, SELinux)
Going further, I have absolutely no patience with people who hack iPhones. A phone is an appliance connected to a public asset - EM bandwidth. People using public assets have a duty of care, and it's the failure of duty of care (tragedy of the Commons) that has done a lot of damage to society.
What I do on my own local network is my affair, but I think increasingly we should have a reasonable expectation that anything connected to a public network is properly secured and maintained, just like (in the UK at least) we test cars annually to check they are safe on the road. I'm afraid that the Wild West days of the Internet are increasingly over - and the excesses of some people is bringing down an overreaction.
Over the next 20 years we have to find a way to put the genie back in the bottle without killing the genie or spoiling the bottle. The politicians will try to screw this up. But the rest of us need to realise that we need to grow up too - we need to understand that if we want a reliable public internet and mobile phone system, we need to stop treating people who act irresponsibly as if their behaviour was acceptable or clever. Otherwise anti-virus and anti-malware software will continue to eat up too many of our CPU cycles, shorten the lives of our hard drives, and cause increasing frustration to those of us who actually need to earn a living, and have to use the Internet and the phone system to do it.
I thought it was running some form of Unix/Linux sort of OS.
I realize these modern day snake oil salesmen have convinced corporate America that their product is effective against all viruses on all platforms. However if you look at the definition file that they install on all the systems you'll see that the signatures list which platform they're for. I was curious so I greped the file. Turns out that while there's hundreds of thousands of windows definitions in the file there's only tens for linux and fewer for sun.
When pressed on this they'll tell you that they look for all those viruses so they arn't passed by the ftp/http/mail server on the unix box. While there's some merit to this position I don't see how it's at all relevant to the iPhone.
That's all I hear.
something flying over our heads?
BTW, if the original "anti-virus expert" really put unlock and jailbreak as the same thing, he needs to learn more about iPhones.
Jailbreak is breaking out of the chroot jail. It gives you root access so you can do wonderful things like install an SSH-daemon (which, unfortunately uses a standard password which the worms out there are exploiting now), as well as install apps that you want instead of only those that's passed Apple's draconian approval service.
Unlocking is SIM-unlocking, its purpose is so that an unauthorized SIM card (in the US that means non-AT&T) works on the iPhone. If you're using an AT&T card, you don't need to unlock, but you can still jailbreak. You need to run a software not authorized by Apple to do the unlock, so to unlock you *need* to jailbreak.
As for F-Secure, eh, fuck 'em. Their threat of Symbian viruses is also snake oil, it requires the most idiotic of idiots to see "Hmm someone wants to send me something over BlueTooth. OK I'll accept. Transfer finished. Let's open it. Oh it wants to install an app, should I install or should I deny?" and F-Secure sells you unproven protection if you say "install". Goddamnit, if you are so goddamned dumb, you deserve to get swindled by this company.
"F-Secure researchers are calling attention to the fact that it's impossible to run third-party anti-virus on iPhones, because the SDK doesn't allow for it. It's a problem, as they claim malware will start to target the phone"
Why not use the same method the mawlare writers use. Oh, wait, it isn't possible unless the user explididly jailbreaks the device and uses the default password in SSH
In the early days, there were some remote exploits that you could use to jailbreak a device but those remote exploits have now been fixed soon after the jailbreaking community discovered the holes and published their software.
The official firmware from Apple is essentially hardened now against any remote attacks or malware attempting to run so there is no market for anti-virus on the iPhone.
users long for McAfee32.exe eating up 10-15% of CPU time, while intercepting network traffic and checking your mails. Clearly.
If my phone got exploited I'd just restore from my latest backup, it might take all of twenty minutes.
iLocalis is a clone of "Find My iPhone", a feature of the 3.x firmware.
Winterboard is customizable but it is also slow and unstable.
OpenSSH Server has no business on a phone. There are several SSH clients in the app store for connecting to other machines for administrative purposes. If you feel the need to have a phone that requires administration,
As a linux system administrator I fully understand the purpose of jailing my apps as most of my processes on my linux servers are jailed and in some instances running in a VM inside of the OS.
Find my phone is a clone of iLocalis, not the other way around since iLocalis has been around since the 2.x days of iPhone. iLocalis provides enhanced features that Find My Phone does not, such as the ability to activate call forwarding, lock out the phone completely, backup the contents of the phone, wipe it out, reco
Baloney. I want to use the fact that my phone is in fact a complete UNIX machine. Don't you dare tell me that this is unnecessary and as such must not be done. I love the fact that the iPhone has such a useful and intuitive GUI, but it's missing some stuff. Because it's actually so flexible, despite Apple's intentions, it can in fact do all that. Did you know that you can run a VNC server on the phone itself, so you can control the screen through any VNC client?
In any case, who do you think you are to be di
You can jailbreak if you want but you should be aware that your phone is no longer secure once you do that and any personal information
I've got a bad feeling about this.


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Dr. Monica Swahn, professor in the School of Public Health and associate vice president for research at Georgia State University, has received a two-year, $390,000 grant from the National Institutes of Health (NIH) to study the role of alcohol marketing and early alcohol use among African youth acquiring HIV.
"While alcohol research in Africa has been scarce, alcohol use in Sub-Saharan Africa has been found to be associated with unprotected sex and other health concerns," said Dr. Swahn. "This grant will allow us to examine alcohol use in Uganda specifically, which has one of the highest per capita consumption levels world-wide. We will develop ways to help reduce the extent to which early alcohol use increases risk for HIV transmission among 12 to 18 year olds."
Researchers will conduct an environmental scan of alcohol marketing, as well as surveys and focus groups with youth and leaders of community-based organizations, to develop communication messages and materials for a counter marketing campaign.
The project will be guided by an interdisciplinary and international Project Advisory Board composed of alcohol researchers who serve vulnerable and urban youth in Kampala, Uganda.
This research will help pioneers in alcohol marketing and leaders of community-based organizations understand the prevalence and types of alcohol marketing to which youth are exposed.
"With the insight gained from this project, communities will be better prepared to address the risk of HIV transmission among youth," said School of Public Health Dean Michael P. Eriksen. "That is precisely the type of hands-on public health impact research we are committed to here at Georgia State."
|Contact: Frances Marine
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Darren McFadden and Darrius Heyward-Bey had their cover blown.
The 270- to 300-pound (depending on the week) solar eclipse that was JaMarcus Russell is gone, leaving McFadden and Heyward-Bey exposed as premium draft picks who haven't produced anything close to premium results.
The good news is that unlike Russell, neither man has an aversion to hard work and both are dedicated to their craft.
McHey-Bey isn't a quarterback, either, so the No. 4 and No. 7 picks in the 2008 and 2009 drafts don't have to change plays at the line of scrimmage or be the central figure in every snap from center.
The demise of Russell in the eyes of Al Davis came when he was replaced as the starting quarterback by Bruce Gradkowski after 10 games. It was at that point Davis went from looking at Russell as "great" and with growing disdain for his indifference and hearing the rumors swirling about his love of the nightlife, told Tom Cable, "OK, you want Gradkowski? You've got him."
When Gradkowski went down, next in line wasn't Russell, but Charlie Frye. When Frye went down with a concussion and Russell led a comeback win over Denver, Russell still got no consideration. The end may have came Thursday, but it was clear at that point Russell was going to hit the road before the 2010 season.
The company line on McHey-Bey remains supportive.
When ESPN's Chris Mortensen reported McFadden could be traded on draft day, Cable moved swiftly to call the report "ridiculous" and said, "there's no way. I don't know how it came out. I don't get it. There's no way Darren McFadden was ever going to be traded from this football team."
Cable promised reporters a dramatic difference in Heyward-Bey in a pre-draft press conference, raved about his work with 30-pound dumb bells, and talked him up again at the minicamp.
The Raiders have a lot riding on the remaining two-thirds of the triplets which were supposed to energize a sagging offense, and neither player has inspired much confidence based on their play.
McFadden looked in minicamp as he has always looked in practice. He's quick to the corner, explosive and a skilled receiver. The problem has been contact, which has seen McFadden go down too easily and gotten him injured _ two huge issues for any running back.
Heyward-Bey indeed was more fluid in short and intermediate routes and on many plays appeared comfortable catching the ball away from his body, securing it, and then turning upfield. But there were still too many dropped passes.
One sequence was telling. Heyward-Bey streaked down the right sideline and when Charlie Frye's pass came a bit short and to the inside, he simply kept on running. The pass fell to to turf, as if Heyward-Bey never saw the pass or simply didn't make a move to get it.
A short time later, Kyle Boller launched a similar pattern to Louis Murphy, with the Alameda wind appearing to hold the ball up in flight. Murphy shifted gears, glided five yards to the inside and caught the ball in stride.
If McFadden can't cut it with being a conventional 15- to 20-carry per game running back, the Raiders may at some point consider making him a Ronnie Harmon-style receiver out of the backfield, someone who can make a living with mismatches as a receiver and be a productive, explosive player.
They have no options with Heyward-Bey. He's a receiver or else.
To be fair, he's only in his second year, and there has been some progress.
Without Russell around as a magnet for all the draft bust criticism, McFadden and Heyward-Bey will be watched closely.


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Andrew Gogerty: Advisor considerations for tactical ETF portfolios.
Hi. I am Andrew Gogerty, ETF Managed Portfolio Strategist with Morningstar. Joining me today is Neil Peplinski, Managing Partner of Good Harbor Financial, here in Chicago.
Neil, thank you for joining me.
Neil Peplinski: Thanks for having me, Andrew.
Gogerty: ETF managed portfolios: the growth is out, the story is out. Last 18 months, these strategies have seen tremendous asset growth, and interest from advisors.
A lot of the growth is definitely going towards strategies that have a significant tactical component, such as your U.S. tactical strategy.
What is it that you are seeing that advisors are wanting or demanding recently that has really put these strategies on advisors' radars?
Peplinski: I think actually the demand that we're seeing over the last 18 months is really the result of client demand that really started right after the 2008 timeframe. What we really saw were ultimately clients, they went through a fairly traumatic market environment for the second time in a decade, and that started to at least put some questions around buy and hold, and maybe shaking their confidence a little bit, and that flows up. So, I think the client demand--they started going to their advisors and saying is there another way, is there something else that we should be doing with our portfolio?
And from there, if you are working with advisors, say, in an intermediary channel, there's a time lag in terms of the companies looking for, accepting tactical, then finding their managers and then ultimately putting them on the platform and making them accessible for the advisors.
So, I think a lot of the demand really hasn't been in the last 18 months, it's been over the last three or four years, and now we're just seeing that process catch up where the availability is there.
Gogerty: You had mentioned something new, and tactical ability inside one fund or say strategy is something that advisors really haven't had access to historically with traditional mutual funds and that distribution channel.
What are some of the considerations that you are out talking to advisors about, or that you think are key for maybe a historical wrap manager now looking at an ETF managed account with a tactical component?
Peplinski: There are certainly some tactical mutual funds out there; that's the good news. They generally tend to be based on SMA [separately managed account] advisors that have been looking to expand their distribution channel, maybe make it accessible to the smaller investor.
So, the SMA side, that's what we do with our business; it's been very successful. I think one of things that's great about SMA is, especially if we find advisors that are used to them or maybe advisors that are new to them, is the transparency; certainly, over a mutual fund, it's a great advantage. Clients ultimately own the account, and they can see any move that's taken in there. So, I think that was pretty big, particularly post '08, when we saw a lack of appetite for hedge funds. We saw that be replaced by the transparency of the SMA.
So, kind of coincident with that, the increase in demand for the tactical or the alternative approach, the SMAs saw that same benefit. Obviously one of the drawbacks to the SMA is generally there's a higher account minimum, so sometimes that can put it out of reach of maybe smaller investors, and that's where the tactical mutual funds kind of step in and fill in the gap. But ... the liquidity and the transparency is really big, and advisors are seeing that, and that's really starting to benefit.
Gogerty: ... Everyone always says, know what you own, and when you own the account, you have the ability to actually see that on a daily basis as opposed to quarterly with a 60-day lag potential?
Peplinski: Right. I think one of the other advantages of the SMA as well is, because of that transparency, because clients do know what they own on any given day, when you talk about strategies like tactical that are maybe a little newer, and people are still trying to get their comfort level around them, even though we don't necessarily advocate this as an investment manager, it does give a release valve for a client. It becomes much more difficult for a manager to wander away from his mandate, because you see everything, and then ultimately if the client does see activity in that approach that they're just uncomfortable with, even if it's within the manager's mandate, they know they can always just liquidate and take their accounts. So, I think there's some great benefits from the end client's perspective.
Gogerty How is the education with advisors going? You mentioned, yes, there are tactical mutual funds, but they are by far not the mainstream mutual fund right now. In terms of that education process, obviously, Good Harbor's had tremendous success in distribution across different platforms, and even across different firms. How are those education conversations going--because some people equate tactical to market-timing, which we know is not a one-to-one corollary. There's a fundamental basis for what you're doing.
How is that education going? Or what are you keying on with maybe someone who's new to the tactical space?
Peplinski: I think many people are new to the tactical space, and it definitely is an interesting educational story that we have to tell. I will say, though, one of the unique things we've seen--and this really has happened over the last 18 months I would say--is when we first started even taking our story out after 2008, we had to spent a fair amount of time talking about the merits of a tactical management approach, and why you would want to consider it, and whether there might be some benefits over say a traditional buy-and-hold.
What we've seen over the last 18 months now is, many times we'll sit down across the table from an advisor, and the advisor will say look, I already know I want tactical, I get tactical, my clients are asking for tactical. So, I went on a search for tactical managers, and I found you, and that's why we're having this conversation. So tell me about your process and your methodology.
So, before we would spend a fair amount of time talking about the merits of tactical; now we're able to kind of shorten that up and move right into our specific process and our methodology.
The interesting part there, though, and one of the things that we [are] pretty adamant ... about upfront is, when we talk about buy-and-hold, everybody knows what we're talking about. But when we say tactical that definition can be very much idiosyncratic. You can take a handful of tactical mangers, and they're going to just have different approaches, even though they're all labeled as tactical.
So, in our educational process, the first [thing] is just to talk about what it means to us to be tactical, and that really is step one in ultimately just aligning expectations. From there, a firm like us, we've had a pretty decent track record, and so we actually spend a lot of time not focusing on performance, but really focusing on where are the risks, where might you see our tactical strategy not be quite as effective, or what environments will we do well and what environments will we not do well. So, it really becomes managing the overall expectations so you end up with a long-term relationship with an advisor and their clients, versus something that's more short-term.
Gogerty: One of the other things you had brought up--setting expectations in market environment. Because tactical is somewhat new, let's discuss. Markets recently have been volatile, yet somewhat directionless from time to time. There's really no trend or sustainable momentum up or down recently. What are things that advisors should keep in mind when someone is implementing a tactical strategy through the type of market environment that we've had recently, over, say, the last 6 to 12 months?
Peplinski: I think this gets back to some of the comments that we were making just a second ago that, ultimately, no strategy, no matter what, is going to be able to perform well in all market environments. Every strategy is going to have some market conditions where it's going to underperform, and I think a good investment management firm will put that forth, and they'll say, this is our approach, this is where we think it adds value, but these are the cases where you might not see that, where you might see us underperform. And you have to communicate that message, so that ultimately advisors and clients can understand where that is.
When we're in sideways-moving markets like this, whether any manager's particular strategy does well in an environment like this or doesn't, it will be again very much specific to that investment strategy. You'll find some tactical approaches that do well in the kind of range-bound, volatile markets; you'll find other tactical components that tend to do well when the markets are breaking off in either direction, up or down.
So, fundamentally, what the advisor and the clients need to do is, they need to understand what kind of strategy they have, and sometimes, that's actually a great argument why you would want to consider multiple tactical managers, because some approaches will work well in sideways markets, and other ones will work better in the more trending markets, again, in either direction.
So, a lot of that, I think, is where the advisor has to really dig into that and understand what kind of strategy they're getting, and maybe not get too focused on the numbers; make sure they're solid, but make sure you understand their process and their performance. And that's where we spend a lot of our time when we're giving our pitches; it's really about, what is the methodology, is there a chance that it can be consistent, how do things look, what's the likelihood that it works going forward.
Gogerty: It seems like, when you get to that point, then you're running more parallel to historical investments, such as mutual funds, where if you set the expectation, you're going to build that longer-term relationship with the advisor and ultimately the end client.
Peplinski: Right. I think in the long run, it does come down to performance. You can't neglect a poor-performing manager or strategy for too long, but oftentimes in this industry, it is pretty prevalent that there's hot money, and people will try to chase the top performer or last month's top performer, and I think that usually does a lot of injustice to a portfolio. What you really want to do is understand the manager.
If they go into a prolonged period of underperformance, then you can re-evaluate their strategy, their methodology. Again, back to the benefits of an SMA--you can see, are they wandering away from their mandate, if they changed their style. If they haven't, maybe there's no reason to abandon them yet; maybe it's just a prolonged stretch of market conditions where an approach like this being used would underperform.
But I think, again, that's the part you need to be conscious of, and ultimately, the performance. You've got to deliver at some point but...
Gogerty: ... you do.
Peplinski: …but understanding the methodology and the process will help you assess whether or not it's time to bail.
Gogerty: Thank you very much for your insight today. I appreciate it.
This has been Andrew Gogerty with Morningstar talking with Neil Peplinski from Good Harbor Financial.
For more information on ETF managed portfolios, check out our managed portfolio center on MorningstarAdvisor.com. Also take a look at our agenda for this year's Morningstar ETF Invest Conference. We've expanded the conference this year to include a dedicated track of panels to ETF-managed portfolio strategists with discussions around strategy, portfolio allocation, and implementation.
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I need some good shooter with 4 players. Any ideas?
Medal of Honor: Rising Sun is a good one that my brother and I played. I believe it is four players. It also has bots that you and your friends can play against.
Yes!! Medal of Honor: Rising Sun, in my opinion the best Medal of Honor even better than the new one on ps3 Then I would have to say European Assault .
The Spinter cells I don't know about 4 players but I do believe that they are co-op.
I know alot of shooters but, there really is not too many shooters out there that have 4 player support and if they do they're not really any good.
I'm not really big into shooters all that much, but I loved the first Killzone on the PS2, to this day it's one of the few FPS' I really enjoy. Area 51 was also very fun, can't remember if it was 4 players though.
Black was pretty good...lacked multiplayer but made up for it in great game play and story.
I don't think Battlefront 2 is four player, but that game is loads of fun. Ratchet and Clank: Up Your Arsenal isn't exactly a shooter, but it has shooting in it, and it has super fun four player multiplayer.
Black is the shizznitt,,.but, I never played the multi ;p
Battlefront 2's severs are still going. (I believe)
Tribes: Aerial Assault, was the best FPS I played on PS2. Unfortunately it was only 2 player, the nice thing though you could play 2 player online as well as offline. I haven't played it in a few years now, but last time I was on there was still a group of players on there like 3 full games. Maps are big, vehicles, & gadgets make for a good time. The game would have done well if it only included voice or text chat.
A good shooter game for the Playsation 2 would be medal of honor or call of duty: world war
The TimeSplitters series is a good one.
I remember Star Wars: Battlefront II being really fun. I don't think it was 4-player, but the two-player splitscreen worked great. You should check it out.


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The Destroyer
Honorary citizen of Titan; U.S.A., legally deceased
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First Appearance
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Captain Marvel #32 (1974)
6'4"; (as Arthur Douglas) 5'9"; (in most powerful body) 7'4"
680 lbs.; (as Arthur Douglas) 161 lbs.; (in most powerful body) 1,050 lbs.
Red; (as Arthur Douglas) blue
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Recently, as a detainee aboard a galactic prison transport, Drax crashed on Earth and escaped imprisonment, along with the other inmates. He regained his intelligence and fought the other inmates when they threatened the local townsfolk and the 10 year old girl named Cammi, who befriended him. Drax and Cammi were then taken to an intergalactic prison known as the Kyln
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Sometime after the war with Annihilus, the Phalanx managed to take over Kree Space and infect many worlds. Now trapped within Kree Space, Drax was hunted by a Phalanx infected Nova and Gamora. During the chase Nova was able to capture Drax and he was then infected with the techno-organic virus, becoming a Phalanx Select. Now working for the Phalanx he was recently given the assignment to hunt down and capture or kill Nova, who escaped from the Phalanx's grasp. Following Nova into a wormhole, Nova, Gamora, and Drax are now stranded in an unknown quadrant of space.
After the events of the Annihilation Conquest, Drax agreed to join a group of cosmic heroes to form a proactive line of defense against potential treats to the Universe. The group was led by Jason of Spartoi's son Peter Quill, also known as the Star-Lord. After many failed attempts of coming up with a name, Rocket Raccoon suggested that they take the name of Guardians of the Galaxy. The team used Knowhere as their base of operation. Knowhere is located inside the decapitated head of an unidentified Celestial that was floating on the very edge of the universe.While on Knowhere, Drax would come into conflict with the Luminals who were the protectors of this peaceful place. Drax and the Guardians first mission pitted them against the Universal Church of Truth which was a group of very powerful religious fanatics. Later during the Skrull infiltration that destroyed the Continuum Cortex, Cynosure sent her team after the missing Drax, when it was suspected he could be a Skrull. Three of her finest, Massdriver, Impact and Brightstorm, were left defeated and in intensive care following a furious battle with the Destroyer. When questioned about his mysterious disappearances by Quasar, Drax revealed that he had been using the Continuum Cortex to search for Cammi.
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NullDC is the newest emulator out there and it's even better than Chankast! It emulates almost all games flawlessly! There's one downside, it doesn't support joypads!! >.< Well this tutorial here will make that possible for this emulator and ANY emulator that doesn't accept joypads and only limits you to the keyboard as a controller. This is EXACTLY how it's done:
First go to:
http://www.1emulation.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=21519Then go find the files called dc_bios.bin and dc_flash.bin *use Google...type in the words dc_bios download and you'll find it I swear to God...*
THEN at the same site..it'll tell you to download a file called Joy2Key...because as stated and explained above, NullDC is NOT programed to use a joypad...so you have to map your joypad into tricking the PC that it's a keyboard...but Joy2Key is ONLY for experienced users....I'd recommend Xpadder for people who doesn't know how to map a joypad to a keyboard...here's links to the following:
Joy2Key *again, for the ppl who knows how to do it*
http://www.electracode.com/4/joy2key/JoyToKey%20English%20Version.htmXpadder *recommended*
http://www.bestsharing.com/f/NYGEtgl239279For the people using Joy2Key...your on your own because I could never figure that program out..it confused the hell out of me...
Now for the people using Xpadder, stay tuned because here's something else that'll be VERY useful...
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ZP2MPNZ8Where ever you extracted Xpadder, extract that in the same folder and tell Xpadder to open that profile. If that download ever expires tell me so I can reupload it for you. Thanks goes out to Nologic from 1emulation.com for this link! I don't want him to think I stole the stuff he uploaded...
Open it up and you'll see that your buttons is already set up...so don't mess with ANYTHING there...just click X.
Then you'll see a screen showing you the name of the current profile and under it will say untitled. Click the one saying untitled and you'll see a prompt. Click SAVE!
Then all you do here is look at the lower right hand side and click 1.
It'll highlight some buttons...just ignore that.
The first thing we'll be setting up is the D-pad or the DC analog stick *choose which ever...*
Here is a pic of what I'm talking about:
*beautiful sketch isn't it? *
Alright if anyone has any problems seeing this, give me your e-mail address in PM and I'll send it to you via e-mail...newho back to the tutorial.
As you can see I color coded for easier explanation. Lets start with the D-pad which is in the red circle.
Double click the button that has has WHITE on it. After you do that, you will see a keyboard figure come up. Double click on the key that you wish for it to emulate. I chose the arrow key pointing up. After that exit out of that screen by clicking the X. Then double click the button that has yellow on it. The keyboard figure should come up again. Once again double click on the key you wish for it to emulate. I chose the arrow key pointing right.
As you can see, that's pretty well all there is to it. Just MAKE SURE none of the keys you choose to emulate are the important ones...like ENTER, ESC, F1...for directional pads *D-pad and DC analog which is in the green circle* I chose the arrow keys for D-pad and the numpad keys 8426 for the analog since they also represent arrow keys on the keyboard*. For the buttons A,B,X,Y on the joypad *in the picture...not on your joypad...I'm very sure your joypad is gonna be numbered as in button 1, button 2...so forth* I'd use letter keys. I used these keys in the following order:
If you look on your keyboard at those keys, you'll see they make the shape of the buttons similar on a DC controller or on a PSX controller...more importantly it's similar to the shape of the buttons in that picture above which is what you'll be following if you loaded the profile that I suggested you load.
For the trigger buttons *which I pinpointed in the picture above* I used these following keys:
L *meaning left trigger* - Q
R *meaning right trigger* - J
and finally, for the start button in which is displayed in the picture above also. I used the following key for this button:
S *meaning start* - Right Shift
Now after that's all set up, look at the bottom left hand side and click on the Abc button. Your controller on the screen should now look like this:
Now LEAVE THE PROGRAM RUNNING FROM THERE and open up NullDC. I recommend you use a mounting program like Daemon Tools or Alcohol 120% to mount your games because running it them from a backup CD in the CD drive will cause it to lag unless you have good faith in your CD/DVD drive. In Options however, click GDRom. Tell it which drive letter your running the mounted game from *or choose your CD/DVD drive letter if you choose to run it from CD* and then finally go back to Options and click on Maple, Port A, and then Key Conf for Player 1 *this is EXACTLY why I made this tutorial!!!*
Now set up your controller like you would on any other emulator. Remember those buttons we told to emulate as keys? Well now they will show up here and NullDC WILL work for your Joypad now!
After you set that up, just click System, and then Start.
Enjoy your gameplay!!!!!!!
If your game doesn't work, I'd check the NullDC compatibility list here:
http://www.1emulation.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=21524Also a tip: If your tired of that thing getting in your way, just click minimize and it'll go into the right hand side of the screen where most of your tasks are usually put....which is VERY useful because as long as you play NullDC, that thing HAS to be running in the background for it to emulate the joypad as a keyboard.
And since I used www.1emulation.com as a bases for this tutorial and used the programs from their forums, I would like to give out a thank you to them and this tutorial could not have been made possible without them.
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By Jason Pribila – ringside in Bethlehem:
On Saturday Night Peltz Boxing, Top Rank, and BAM Boxing brought an eight bout card to the Sands Resort and Casino in Bethlehem, PA. The main event featured a featherweight clash between Gamalier Rodriguez and Jorge Pazos. Although this was one of several bouts that featured Puerto Rico vs Mexico, it was one of the few bouts that did not feature a local fighter. Fortunately for fans of the (610) the undercard was loaded with pugilists from the Lehigh Valley.
The most important fight on the card featured the face of Bethlehem Boxing, welterweight Ronald Cruz. Cruz entered the ring where he was introduced to a national audience as he outpointed Prenice Brewer in NBC Fight Night in June of 2012. Although that win was only 14 months ago, for Cruz it felt like a lifetime.
In September, Cruz would suffer his first professional loss to the unprofessional Antwone Smith. His attempt at a rebound ended up being a lop-sided points defeat to Ray Narh on June 14.
Fortunately for Cruz he has a promoter who was able to get him right back in the ring. More importantly, Russell Peltz is also one of the sports best matchmakers. Cruz had struggled and probably always will struggle against fighters that possess great lateral movement. Peltz found an opponent that would be willing to stay in the pocket and trade with Cruz. Rodlofo Armenta (12-11-1, 9KO) was exactly what this fighter needed.
As Cruz was climbing the ranks he enjoyed eight straight victories by knockout. He accomplished this by working behind his jab, working his way inside, and attacking his opponent's body. In recent fights, Cruz seemed to be looking for the knockout without first investing the time to soften up the man in front of him. When he would land upstairs, he would get tied up before he could capitalize.
On Saturday Night, Cruz returned to form. He came out quickly behind a jab to the head and body. He moved Armenta to the ropes, and did damage when he got there. Cruz experienced more success in one round than he did during the entire bout against Narh.
The minute between rounds could not tick fast enough for Cruz. Jabs to the head and body were again key in Cruz controlling the real estate. A left hook to the body forced Armenta to the ropes. On his approach, Cruz looked as if he was aiming low, but instead looped a right hand to Armenta's jaw. The end was near, and a Cruz flurry dropped Armenta to the canvas. As referee Gary Rosato's count reached eight, Armenta decided that the canvas was a safer place than against the ropes and he was counted out.
With the win Cruz improves to 18-2, with 13 KO. There is no question the gym rat will insist on going back to work soon with the hopes of fighting again in November. Other Bouts:
Cruz's loss to Narh temporarily deflated the Sands Event Center on June 14. Enter Easton, PA welterweight Arturo Trujillo. Thanks to an early knockout by Sergey Kovalev, Trujillo was able to make his professional debut on NBCSN. The 2011 National Golden Gloves champion entered the ring as an unknown, and after 29 seconds he left the ring with a knockout victory, and a memorable interview with Chris Mannix.
On Saturday, Trujillo faced off against Yurii Polischuk, who also won by knockout in his professional debut. The southpaw felt out his opponent for the majority of the first round before landing a flurry at the end of the round to take the lead on the scorecards. In round two Polischuk opened up and ended up on the canvas. Trujillo would continue to put on pressure, but he was unable to score the stoppage. After hitting the canvas, Polischuk remained on the defensive, and seemed satisfied to hear the final bell. Trujillo wants to remain as busy as possible, and I'm sure his manager and promoter will be happy to satisfy his request.
His last time out, Jerome Rodriguez (5-0-1, 2KO) traded knockdowns Treysean Wiggins en route to a thrilling KO2 and the popular vote for fight of the night. On Saturday, Rodriguez seemed as if he worked on tightening up his defense against Ariel Duran (7-7-1, 4 KO). His punches were straighter, and when he threw his combinations he seemed to get out of the pocket just before being countered. Rodriguez won by scores of 60-54, 59-55, and 59-55 in his most complete performance to date.
The opening bout of the evening saw the return of the blue-collar heavyweight from Allentown, PA William Miranda (6-7-2). Miranda faced Philadelphia's David Williams (7-7-2, 2KO). There is no questioning Miranda's toughness, but he once again took a lot of punishment, and dropped a unanimous decision: 38-37, 40-36, 39-37.
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Europe's unmanned combat air vehicle (UCAV) stealth technology demonstrator, nEUROn successfully completed its maiden flight from the Dassault Aviation company's flight test base in Istres, France, on December 1 in collaboration with the flight test personnel of the French DGA defense procurement agency who controlled the air space during the flight test.
The nEUROn program was launched in 2006 by the DGA, and involves France, Italy, Sweden, Spain, Greece and Switzerland. It was never intended to become a prototype UCAV but rather a project to maintain a future for aeronautic excellence and know-how in Europe.
With Dassault Aviation as prime contractor, the program was designed to pool the skills and know-how of Alenia Aermacchi (Italy), Saab (Sweden), EADS-CASA (Spain), HAI (Greece), RUAG (Switzerland) and Thales (France).
The 10 meter-long vehicle with a wing-span of 12.5 meters has an empty weight of 5 tons and is powered by a Rolls-Royce "Adour" engine.
The nEUROn will continue to undergo testing in France until 2014, at which time it will be sent to Vidsel in Sweden for a series of operational trials. It will then go to the Perdadesfogu range (Italy) for further tests, in particular firing and stealth measurements.
NEUROn is financed by the upstream research budget of the French defense ministry which said in a statement on Saturday that "NEUROn marks a major research and technology effort to prepare the future and maintain essential industrial competences. It inaugurates the next generation of fighter aircraft, piloted or not, with the aim of preserving European autonomy in this domain."
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A 4-year-old girl dragged her sister from the wreckage of a car crash that killed their mother and huddled up in some nearby brush until they were discovered hours later.
Washington troopers said an Astoria woman, identified as Jessica Rath, 26, was driving along the Washington coastline to pick up her fisherman husband near Long Beach Tuesday night.
At some point on the drive, she talked to her husband on the phone and learned he was actually arriving into the Port of Portland.
She turned the car around and began driving toward Portland.
Investigators said the last phone contact between husband and wife consisted of him telling her not to worry about driving to Portland and instead just to head back home to Astoria.
Rath, police said, told him she was OK to drive to Portland.
That was around midnight. Sometime after that, troopers believe Rath fell asleep behind the wheel, traveled off SR-401 near Naselle and slammed head-on into a tree.
Rath died at the scene.
Photos from Washington State Patrol show how far the car went off the highway before crashing in thick brush.
Rath's 2-year-old daughter was severely injured in the crash. Police said the 4-year-old girl dragged her sister out of the car, along with a blanket, and hunkered down in the cold in that brush.
They remained there for hours.
Finally, around 8 a.m., a passer-by noticed the damaged trees and stopped to check out what had happened. That person discovered the crash scene, along with the injured children, and went to get help.
"That's the good part, that they were both alive," said Bert Haven, with the Naselle Volunteer Fire Department.
Haven was among the first responders to arrive at the scene.
"The 4-year-old was telling us the story, she had said that she actually got the 2-year-old out of the car," Haven said. "So, as far as we know, the 4-year-old got the 2-year-old out of the car and had a blanket that she covered them both."
The girls were taken to a hospital in Astoria and were later flown to Oregon Health & Sciences University for further treatment. Troopers said their father met the girls at the hospital.
The 2-year-old girl has been identified as Lylah Huff. OHSU confirmed she is a patient, but the family has asked for no other information to be released about her condition.
"We could tell the 2-year-old was sick and needed to be out of there right away," Haven said of the crash scene.
Arianna Rath, her 4-year-old sister, was released from the hospital by Wednesday night.
Family members declined to talk about the situation when contacted Wednesday.
Washington State Patrol continues to investigate the crash.


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Liverpool will reportedly switch to Genoa's Andreas Granqvist in their pursuit of January transfer window reinforcements after deeming Torino defender Angelo Ogbonna too expensive.
Representatives from Liverpool were reported to be in attendance for Genoa's draw with Palermo last weekend in order to take a closer look at Granqvist, who has made 24 appearances for Sweden.
According to Football Italia, Liverpool are now ready to sanction a €6 million bid in the hope concluding a transfer for Granqvist in the New Year as Brendan Rodgers looks to bolster his Anfield squad.
Liverpool's interest in the 27-year-old, it is claimed, has been prompted by the price tag placed on Italy international Ogbonna, with Torino requesting the Reds pay €15 million to sign the centre-back.
Ogbonna has impressed with his commanding displays this season and earned a call-up to Italy's squad for next week's World Cup qualifiers, although was forced to withdraw due to an swollen prostate.
Liverpool though, it would appear, have identified a cheaper alternative to Ogbonna in Granqvist, and the Sweden international will battle with the likes Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel for a starting place at Anfield.
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By the time the Celtics injected some energy and passion into their play, it was too late. The deficit was 18 points, and they needed to be perfect in the final 12 minutes to give themselves an opportunity to compensate for the first three quarters.
But nothing about this Celtics team is perfect. With a handful of chances to pull off a dramatic rally, they were unable to capitalize. Three missed free throws by Kevin Garnett, two inexplicable 3-point attempts by Rajon Rondo, and a vanishing act from Paul Pierce.
These are your Celtics, so erratic that they can play three listless quarters, respond with an inspired fourth, and yet keep the TD Garden faithful thirsting for the comebacks of the past.
Right now, they are incapable of such heroics. The Memphis Grizzlies are too good, have played together for too long, and weathered the Celtics' flurry, getting 15 points from ex-Celtic Tony Allen in a 93-83 victory Wednesday night.
It was the Celtics' fourth consecutive defeat, all by double digits.
Coach Doc Rivers kept the locker room closed for several minutes after the game, but he seemed more exasperated than angry. The Grizzlies shot 34.3 percent in the second half, but still outscored the Celtics, 43-42.
When the Celtics slip defensively, they seemingly pay for every mistake. When they improve defensively, they can't score.
"I told them, whatever we're doing wrong, it's not going to get fixed in a day," Rivers said. "I thought we played in stretches where you like the effort at the beginning of the game. We played terrific defense [in the second] half but we couldn't make shots. We didn't convert on anything."
The Grizzlies labored to score in the fourth quarter after the Celtics increased their defensive intensity, but it was too late. Memphis shot 53.6 percent in the first three quarters and held a 75-59 lead.
The Celtics sliced the deficit to 83-78, with a 7-0 run capped by consecutive Jason Terry 3-pointers, with 4:52 left. But after Allen countered with two free throws, Garnett had a chance to again cut it to a two-possession game with 2:56 remaining but missed both free throws.
In his last six games, Garnett is shooting 41.8 percent from the field and averaging 11.6 points. With Rondo also struggling offensively, the scoring onus is being placed on Pierce, who had 2 points in the second half.
"I thought we had good shots," Garnett said. "I've got to balance it out between being offensively minded and defensively minded. Playing against one of the best forwards in the world and that being Zach [Randolph], it's like a bear fight. I never once really balanced it out of being offensive-minded. So, I have to do a better job of that. I've got to."
When asked if he is concerned about the Celtics' 14-17 record and eight losses in the last 10 games, Garnett said, "This is disturbing. It's part of [a season], but a loss is a loss and it hurts. Nothing is good about a loss."
Avery Bradley finished with 4 points in 20 minutes in his return from surgery on both shoulders. He played tough early defense on Mike Conley, but the Grizzlies still shot 61.1 percent in the first half, scoring 28 of their 50 points in the paint.
The Grizzlies were led by Conley's 23 points and Rudy Gay's 19. Memphis outrebounded Boston, 39-27, overall, and never trailed after taking a 34-33 lead with nine minutes left in the second quarter.
And when the Celtics were late on a defensive switch, the result was generally an open 3-pointer. The Grizzlies were 8 for 18 from long range, and teams are shooting 48.2 percent from beyond the arc against the Celtics in the last four games.
"Teams are making us pay," Rondo said. "When we play good defense, they have great ball movement and a guy gets a wide-open 3 and makes it. It messes your confidence up defensively, but you've still got to go back in there and keep [involved] in every other possession."
The momentum from Bradley's return and the first home game of the new year disappeared when the Celtics turned into their bumbling selves in the second quarter, allowing Memphis to go on a 15-3 run for a 44-36 lead.
The Celtics did have a spark after two days off and a spirited practice on Tuesday. Pierce scored 12 points in the first quarter, including three 3-pointers. But teammates struggled to make open shots, especially Garnett, who missed six of his first seven field goal attempts, and finished 5 for 14.
Bradley scored the Celtics' first basket on a backdoor layup one minute into the game. But predictably, he looked like a player who had missed seven months, running out of gas after defending the speedy Conley.
"Avery was terrific on the ball. Avery's going to help us, you could see that," Rivers said. "And that'll be immediate for us. When we're struggling for points and needed somebody offensively — and Avery will get that, too — you could see him struggling with his shot a little bit. But he's going to be a big help for us."Gary Washburn can be reached at firstname.lastname@example.com. Follow him on Twitter at @gwashNBAGlobe.


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As a USA TODAY poll shows record levels of support for same-sex marriage, a Detroit judge agreed not to dismiss the case of a Michigan couple fighting to overturn the state's 2004 ban on gay marriage.
Judge Bernard Friedman wrote in his opinion that April DeBoer and Jayne Rowse's claims that Michigan's constitutional amendment violates the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution "has sufficient merit to proceed," even after the U.S. Supreme Court's ruling on the Defense of Marriage Act last week.
The poll, released Monday, finds 55 percent of Americans say same-sex marriages should be recognized by law as valid compared with 40 percent who say they shouldn't be. In 1996, only 27 percent favored gay marriage.
"I didn't think in my lifetime a lot of things would happen," said Taylor Kelsaw of Okemos, who is gay. "The end of apartheid, Nelson Mandela, Barack Obama. These are things that are certainly indications that change can happen and will happen."
Philip Pucillo, a law professor at Michigan State University, says he sees the legalization as inevitable, based on the strong language he says the court used in issuing its decision to strike down DOMA.
"What's implied in what the U.S. Supreme Court said is that the state, by refusing to recognize same-sex marriage, would also be denying the dignity that a relationship recognized by the constitution as a fundamental right," he said.
It's the same language that Gary Glenn, president of the American Family Association of Michigan and author of the 2004 Michigan Marriage Amendment, finds "outrageous" and "pompous." He called the Supreme Court's decision "ideological rather than constitutional."
"We just reject the notion that five individuals get to dictate to the nation what laws are," Glenn said. "That's not what the Founding Fathers intended in the Constitution."
Michigan State Representative Mike Shirkey (R-Clark Lake) agreed, saying his side now needs to be diligent in defending the institution of marriage -- what he sees as the "fabric of the nation."
"We have to double down now on protecting and preserving what Michigan citizens have clearly defended as the proper and only defend-able and moral and biblical definition of marriage," he said.
Glenn and Shirkey said they don't believe the numbers in the polls -- which Shirkey called unscientific -- and even say they are confident the amendment would prevail if put to another vote.
After all, Glenn said, a Gallup poll predicted the 2004 Michigan Marriage Amendment would be defeated, only for the measure to prevail with 58 percent of people voting in favor.
"What counts," Glenn said, " is what happens on election day."
The Michigan court case will continue July 10, when both sides will meet to set a trial date. Both gay-marriage supporters and opponents say they see the case eventually reaching the U.S. Supreme Court.


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Sean Payton wants tackle left tackle Jermon Bushrod to play for the New Orleans Saints in 2013. He also envisions defensive end Will Smith and linebacker Jonathan Vilma remaining with the team. It's not always that simple, though, and Payton understands all of it.
Payton discussed an array of topics in an interview with NOLA.com | The Times-Picayune on Friday afternoon as he's neck deep into building the Saints back into a Super Bowl contender with this offseason being one of the more critical periods since he's been in New Orleans.
"It's really important to separate your emotions from some of these decisions," said Payton, who returned to work in late January after serving a near year-long suspension from the league in connection to the bounty scandal. "It's hard to do. We're evaluating all of them. I haven't met Akiem Hicks yet, but I certainly know Will Smith and Roman Harper.
"We're going to look at those three players no differently. We're just going to go by what we see. That's one of the things that helped us. ... We really need to separate what we're attached to as opposed to what we're watching."
The futures of Bushrod, Smith, Vilma and more than a handful of other players remain as the Saints approach the beginning of free agency and then the NFL draft in late April. Payton said being as honest as possible about every aspect of the team is the only way to approach the 2013 season, especially regarding player personnel decisions.
Salary cap limitations stand as one of the primary roadblocks for the Saints this offseason as the team still lingers slightly over the $123 million cap. And yet decisions need to be made on players like Smith ($14.5 million salary cap number) and Vilma ($8.6 million) as the Saints have to be under the cap by Tuesday.
Payton said while there are no certainties, he remained adamant on how he sees Smith and Vilma playing for the Saints in 2013. Payton said he has talked to both players about their status, while General Manager Mickey Loomis has been in contact with their agents.
Payton also said the scheme change won't play a part in a decision on Smith and Vilma. He pointed out how the Saints have played in variations of a 3-4 scheme more than people may realize and he feels players can always adapt.
The decision on Bushrod is a little different as he sits as the team's primary unrestricted free agent. There haven't been any significant contract talks between Bushrod and the Saints as the two-time Pro Bowler should be highly sought after once the free-agent talking period opens at 11 p.m. Friday night.
"He has been someone who has epitomized what we look for in a player," Payton said. "Now the trick as he's been getting ready for free agency, and we're getting ready as well, is just finding that balance and that spot. A lot of times, the league will set a market price. I know exactly what we have in Jermon, and that is someone that loves being here. He's very smart, he's talented, he's been very productive.
"That answer in regards to him returning or not will come sooner than later. It won't be a long drawn out process. I know Mickey (Loomis) and his agent will have the meaningful discussion necessary to arrive at what the correct number should be. Now that correct number might be different with another club. When that happens, it's part of free agency that's no different than Scott Fujita (when he left for Cleveland in 2010)."
Payton said he doesn't think where the Saints stand with the salary cap makes it more challenging for signing someone like Bushrod. It's more about getting specifically to what the correct salary for Bushrod, at least in the Saints' eyes, should be.
"I know he wants to be back, and I know those same feelings exist on our part," Payton said. "Now it's just working through the process. I know it's always a time of apprehension for the player as well as the clubs. But you get used to it and that's just the game that exists now. The players understand. The agents understand it. Certainly the organization understands it."
New Orleans Saints Coach Sean Payton said the team has to eliminate how they feel about a player when evaluating what offers are made in free agency. Popular linebacker Scott Fujita, pictured with Will Smith, Roman Harper and Lance Moore at a benefit for former Saint Steve Gleason, was offered more money by the Cleveland Browns than the Saints thought they could pay.Michael DeMocker, NOLA.com | The Times-Picayune
Payton said he feels like there are players in-house, likely referring to Charles Brown, who could compete for the starting left tackle spot if Bushrod left. But Payton also pointed out none of the candidates have compiled the same time on task or success of Bushrod's resume.
As for potential free agents outside of the Saints' roster, Payton said there's a lot of value in that second-tier free agents and it's the way the Saints have gone about finding free agents the past few seasons. Because of the salary cap situation, Payton acknowledged the Saints would follow the same formula this offseason saying the Saints "will pay close attention" to the second tier rather than breaking the bank on one player.
Payton simplified the Saints' outlook at free agency into three categories: musts, needs and wants. He qualified Drew Brees as a must, for example, when Payton felt like the Saints didn't have a quarterback in the building when he first took the job in 2006.
When asked about "musts" for this offseason going into free agency, Payton mentioned left tackle and backup quarterback as possibilities because Bushrod and Chase Daniel may sign with other teams. But Payton said he didn't want to specifically identify "musts."
Payton said he feels like the Saints possibly could find some value players that could fit in the "need" category at outside linebacker, defensive end and tight end.
Payton said it's important to hit on draft picks every year, but stressed how important it will be for the Saints to hit on their selections this year. He pointed back to the 2006 as a draft where the Saints hit on numerous draft picks, along with acquiring center Jeff Faine and defensive tackle Hollis Thomas in trades.
Of course, new defensive coordinator Rob Ryan and the change to a 3-4 defensive scheme will be the overriding on-field storyline throughout the offseason and into the season. Payton said he understands the reservations from outsiders from his hiring of Ryan when presented with the success of the teams Ryan served as defensive coordinator.
Ryan has only led his defense to one top-10 ranking in total defense in his nine seasons as an NFL defensive coordinator. Oakland finished third in total defense in 2006, but 18th in points allowed as Oakland finished with a 2-14 record.
Ryan did win two Super Bowls as the Patriots' linebackers coach in 2001 and 2003, but has never made the postseason as a defensive coordinator. In the nine seasons Rob Ryan has served as defensive coordinator, his teams have a combined record of 46-98.
"That applies to a lot of us prior to coming into the right fit," Payton said. "There's players that we've had and assistant coaches that we've had where that same would apply. I think in his case, I think we're getting an outstanding defensive coordinator. I think we're getting a guy who is passionate about football, a guy that cares about his players, a guy that's really good in the framework of the coaching staff. And that compatibility issue I've grown to really value as a coach. And the framework of 17, 18 coaches, it's critical that we are united and can work together because the players can sense in a second when that's not taking place.
"I spoke to a dozen people in regards to what are his strengths, what does he do well, how will he fit in the framework of the staff. The feedback just kept coming back positive. It was outstanding. I like his enthusiasm. I like that his players will have confidence. Certainly, all of us recognize there's some challenges for us logistically defensively to improve.
"I think that probably falls on us doing a better job for us coaching them, us acquiring more talent and the players doing a better job executing the scheme. It falls across the board. When you finish last in the league in a category, it's not just one facet. It's not just the players, it's not just the coaches. It's across the board. It's yours and you have to own it. I really like what we have in him.
Sean Payton said he is excited about working with new defensive coordinator Rob Ryan, who was on the Dallas Cowboys staff last season.Michael DeMocker, NOLA.com | The Times-Picayune
"The public opinion about that hire ... we have to make decisions constantly regardless of how they're going to be viewed. The minute we start making decisions out of popularity, we would have been making mistakes. ... Those are important things we have to hold onto. We're not running for public office. What's popular is winning. That's what is popular. I'm anxious to work with him and so is the staff. He's been outstanding."
Payton said he didn't know with 100 percent certainty that he felt he had to fire former defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo and secondary coach Ken Flajole before he was reinstated in late January during the Senior Bowl.
"I knew we struggled, but I think in those next 48 hours or 2-3 days I felt like we needed to make a change," Payton said. "That was really hard because in fairness to Steve, I hired him to come in and work with us, being me as well as the head coach, and he didn't have that opportunity. That was difficult because he was a heck of a football coach.
"So if there's one person, add Kenny to that, that kind of got the short end of the stick, certainly they did at their first year and their only year in our organization with two different interim coaches. The penalties took place after he had signed on to come here. That was tough, and in a lot of ways there were parts that weren't fair to him and Kenny."
The topic of leaving town for training camp has come up, including going back to Millsaps College in Jackson, Miss., which was where the Saints held training camp from 2006-2008, since Payton has returned to the team. But Payton said there are some logistical issues in scheduling that won't make it possible to return to Millsaps.
He said unless the Saints are able to find another place - and the team's "eyes and ears are open" - then training camp would remain at the team's practice facility in Metairie.
Payton also said the "Do Your Job" banner with a picture of a not-so cheerful Payton remains on the wall of the indoor practice facility, but added with a laugh, "That thing is coming down. It's on my list, but I've got 20 other things more pressing."
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