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#1 You are not the God of me!03-09-2010, 11:58 PM
WOOT!!! More DU Love for Christ!!
Are_grits_groceries (1000+ posts) Tue Mar-09-10 05:50 AM
Original message You are not the God of me!
I grew up in the South and was churched well. I have watched the different denominations and faiths go about their business for years. I was never a fan to say the least.
However, I have effing had it! I've had it with the lot of you who read your Bibles or other tomes and then sit in judgment. I don't remember God calling for juries to be summoned to declare their verdicts. If I remember correctly, God is the final arbiter and it's his decision.
All of you are a bunch of scurrilous pretenders who pick and choose what to believe. The motes in your eyes are so large that I wonder that you can see at all. I don't think they are motes, but mirrors. You are looking at your bloody self.
You are praying for the President to die. That sentence alone is enough to make me wish Daniel would visit all of you and tear your pillars down. Tear the fracking New Testament out of the Bible because you aren't using it. You are Leviticans of the first order and you preach hate and intolerance. I don't remember that message from Jesus when I was growing up.
I also don't hear a chorus rising up from people who don't think as you do. They have let you hijack the gospel and turn it on its head. They are just as bad because the true meaning they meekly avow is being rapidly lost. It is time for them to stand in their bloody pulpits and declare 'Enough!' They are almost even worse because they let the haters run the message. I have to conclude that they either agree with the hate or they are scared to challenge the ugly message being propounded.
You are pitiful Christians and even worse Americans.
I will stand in your way. I am not a sheeple who will be lead or taken anywhere by you and your ilk. I have no delusions that I am God's messenger on Earth. I think for myself and believe in 'The Golden Rule.'
Look it up because you need to read it a lot.
Take the 30 pieces of silver you use to support your efforts and get the hell out of my life.
And included at no extra charge in this one is another DU favorite...I hate my family!!!
Are_grits_groceries (1000+ posts) Tue Mar-09-10 06:30 AM
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5. This can be a very lonely place. I feel like a 'coastwatcher' in the Phillipines. I have a brazillion relatives because both parents had 9 siblings. However, I no longer have a family.
I know people wonder why I'm here at all. It's as close to home as I can get anymore. I'm not sure I have a real home except for 2 cats and Lily Rose.May the FORCE be with you!
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As is often the case, you can read a truncated, insulting version of a story somewhere else or you can go to Ars Technica.
What we say in the first panel of today's strip isn't actually that far off, which is already pretty crazy. But when you get into the weeds of broadcast legislation (as the Ars piece does) you'll learn some incredible stuff, and that's aside from the fact that they want to stitch an FM receiver into your tricep:
"Radio broadcasters and music labels are at each other's throats over the question of whether radio ought to pay performance rights to labels or artists when it plays their music on the air (currently, only songwriters get paid, not artists or labels). A bill percolating in Congress, the Performance Rights Act, would rationalize performance rights in the US; satellite radio and webcasters currently pay full performance fees to labels or artists, but radio does not, thanks to a longstanding exemption in copyright law."
And it's like, what? There are at least three things in that paragraph that make absolutely no sense. I understand that the devil is in the details, but the devil to detail ratio here is way, way out of whack. I think if you happened to disturb the papers that actually contain legislation like this, an evil spirit would hiss and fly around the room. I'm not saying that being a government person is easy, but it must be easier, certainly, when you simply pass laws written by the companies you're supposed to regulate? Probably?
Kiko came into our office day before yesterday, his face a gaunt and sallow mask, relaying a piece of information which surprised and terrified him: that Monday Night Combat might be his favorite videogame.
I'm not entirely sure we've got an absolute conceptual handle on these platform native games yet - what they are, what they're for. You sometimes hear that something can be "good for an XBLA/PSN game" or "good for the price" or "good until the next major release comes along," which projects the idea that the products in these channels are something less than true games. The thing is, many (if not most) of my favorite games this generation fit this profile. I started listing them here in the post, and it got stupid very quickly. There was no post left, just a shred of chaff dangling from the end of some glorious registry.
The reality that Kiko discovered is that Monday Night Combat is one or two updates away from being a classic, and it's a denizen of this purgatorial realm. We've come a hell of a long way from games capped at fitty megs to the next Lara Croft or Red Faction games being delivered strictly as downloadable titles.


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Alex Netkachov has updated a post he made a while back (in 2006 in fact) about making Windows batch files (.BAT) that would do the same thing as some of the functions in PHP. He's added two more to it today - one for string replace and another for splitting a string.
The replace is as simple three line call, much the same as PHP's and the split call, while a bit more complex, is still pretty straight forward (it just needs a few extra variables).
Other methods in the post include a "switch" method, defining a procedure and updating variable by its name.


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I have a Joomla site with SEF URLs enabled and when I logon or off it tries to go to home.html. I have this line in my .htaccess:
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I would have thought that would have worked. Can anyone advise?
Add the below line on the top of your .htaccess file and have a try:
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September 08, 2013
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Soccer vs. Earlham: Robbie Dreher Memorial Wabash Classic, Mud Hollow Field, 2:00PM
Faculty Recital: Everett & Rodgers: Fine Arts Center Salter Concert Hall, 4:00PM
Faculty Recital by Cheryl Everett and Reginald Rodgers, duo piano
The concert opens with Wolfgang Mozart's Sonata for Two Pianos K. 448. His only composition for two pianos, this finely crafted piece is music of pure joy - graceful, songful, elegant, and virtuosic. The program continues with Johannes Brahms' Variations on a theme by Haydn, which includes almost every possible contrapuntal device and has been described as surpassing J.S. Bach's counterpoint, and music by Argentinian composer Carlos Guastavino and French composer Francis Poulenc. The concert will conclude with the well-known jazz concerto Rhapsody in Blue by George Gershwin.
WCA: This is Business: Arnold House , 7:15PM - 8:30PM
Many Wabash men arrive on campus with very little concept of what a career in "business" entails or how best to pursue it. In this conversation with alumni who have made their careers in various segments of the business field, you will learn more about the forms careers in business can take and how to start preparing for them. This presentation's objectives are to:
-- Help you in your career planning process
-- Provide useful frameworks and context for targeting job research and networking activity
-- Expose those interested in business-related careers to some of the specific areas for further consideration and exploration
-- Offer alumni perspective on some ways to prepare for entry into select business-related careers
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Unofficially, the search began last week when Seagate's Chris Porter sat down with the city's chief human resource officer, Bobby King, to discuss preliminary strategy.
"Because of Chris' expertise in human resources (with Seagate) and because of Bobby's, we've asked them to lead us through this process," said Andy Bade, executive director of facilities and engineering for Amgen Colorado and chairman of the LAEC's board of directors.
John Cody resigned last month after almost 14½ years as CEO of the LAEC to become director of economic development for the city of Thornton.
The LAEC is a nonprofit funded primarily by the city and its member companies. Its mission is recruitment and retention of primary employers, those who produce goods and services locally that are sold elsewhere, bringing new money into the community.
City manager Harold Dominguez said the hiring decision will ultimately be the LAEC board's, but the city is happy to step up as a partner and offer help any way it can.
King said that because it has been so long since the economic council had to look for a leader, the first thing he's recommending is that they look at the job description as it was posted many years ago and compare it with what Cody was actually doing -- "Make sure that's valid and current," he said.
"We need to make sure we're recruiting the right kind of person and then we can move fast," Bade added.
He said that a search committee within the LAEC board would be formed with Porter leading the way. He anticipated the process could take as long as four to six months because they want to find the right person.
Tom Clark, CEO of the Metro Denver Economic Development Corp., called the LAEC job "one of the coveted jobs in the state," and expected that it will attract a lot of attention in the economic development world.
"It will draw attention from folks inside the state, certainly, and because it's part of the Denver metro area it will draw some attention from elsewhere," said Clark, referring to the attractive quality of life Colorado offers.
The metro Denver is unusual compared to other parts of the country in its regional cooperation, Clark said. For many years, the heads of the various economic development agencies in the nine-county metro area have agreed not to compete against others in the region for jobs, and that is not typically the way it is elsewhere, Clark said. That concept might be difficult for someone from a more competitive environment to grasp, he said.
"It makes it easier if you've been here to understand how it works," he said. "There's some subtlety to it -- it influences how you talk about your neighbor, how you work with your neighbor. You understand that you're soldiers in the same army."
Clark said Denver's regional cooperation has been an example others seek to follow. He recalled when some representatives from Dallas and Fort Worth, Texas, flew to Denver to meet with him and his staff to learn how it worked.
"They came in on separate flights at separate times," Clark said. "I said, 'This is not a good start guys.'"
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Obituary: Guy Chichester Navy veteran and environmentalist
Guy Chichester, formerly of Massapequa, Stony Brook and related to the Chichesters of Amityville, died Feb. 9, 2009 in his home in Rye, New Hampshire with his family at his bedside. He was 73 and had been hospitalized battling heart problems for several weeks.
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Ambrose, Austin key to success, says Davis
PORT-OF-SPAIN, Trinidad, (CMC):
Hat-trick hero Derone Davis has hailed the contribution of West Indies great Curtly Ambrose and teammate Ryan Austin to his recent success.
The left-arm spinner snatched three wickets in as many balls last Friday to help Combined Campuses and Colleges stun Barbados at Queen's Park Oval.
"Having a roommate and assistant coach like Ryan Austin has helped me a lot. He has had an impact on my career. He has taught me a lot about variation and helped me work on different balls. He is a good mentor," Davis said.
"[Ambrose] is always there motivating the players, not just the bowlers but batsmen as well, telling us what we need to do to win games.
"We had a few close games and we let them get away. This is one that we almost let get away. It was nice to get one on the cards and look to move from here."
Ambrose serves as the CCC bowling consultant.
Defending a modest total of 111 for eight, CCC took an early grip on the game when they reduced Barbados to 12 for five in the sixth over.
Davis prised out captain Dwayne Smith and Ryan Hinds - both caught at slip by skipper Kyle Corbin before removing Shamarh Brooks leg-before-wicket with the hat-trick delivery.
He finished with four wickets for five runs off four immaculate overs.
"It could have been five but I held back on a catch (caught and bowl chance)," he explained.
'Feel great'
"I feel really great that I got a hat-trick and bowled so well and helped my team to win a game. We have been struggling a bit with two defeats so it is rewarding to finally get a victory.
"I wanted to do well, obviously I wanted to do my best. A hat-trick wasn't on my mind, but I'm happy to get there."
He continued: "We really needed a good start because Barbados have batting right down, as you could see with Ashley (Nurse) and (Sulieman) Benn who came in and gave us a little scare close to the finish.
"We were defending a low total, so thankfully I provided the right kind of start with those crucial wickets which set them back."
The 20-year-old was a member of the West Indies Under-19 team in 2011 and 2012 and also played in the ICC Under-19 World Cup last August in Australia.


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Former Aggie Soccer Standouts Chosen In NWSL DraftSports Thursday, February 7th, 2013
COLLEGE STATION, Texas – On Thursday, the Texas A&M Soccer team had two former standouts chosen in the 2013 National Women's Soccer League (NWSL) Supplemental Draft the league announced via the Twitter.
Merritt Mathias was selected by FC Kansas City in the third round (22nd overall). Alyssa Mautz was picked by the Chicago Red Stars in the fifth round (36th overall).
Mathias was a two-year starter at A&M (2010-11) after playing her first two seasons at the University of North Carolina. A two-time All-Big 12 First Team selection, she registered 17 goals and 16 assists for 50 points.
As a senior, Mathias tallied 27 points on eight goals and 11 assists to earn All-Big 12 First Team and NSCAA All-Central Region Second Team distinctions. She ended the 2011 season ranked 17th in the nation in total assists. In 2010, she garnered All-Big 12 First Team and Big 12 All-Newcomer accolades in junior after logging nine goals and five assists for the year.
In 2012, Mathias played for the New York Fury of the Women's Premier Soccer League Elite.
Mautz was a three-year starter at A&M (2008-10) after playing her freshman campaign at Saint Louis University. A two-time All-Big 12 selection, she tallied 21 goals and 10 assists in her three years in College Station, for 52 career points.
She garnered All-Big 12 First Team recognition in 2010 as she led the Aggies' offense with 29 points, on 12 goals and five assists. She earned NSCAA National Player of the Week recognition the opening week of the 2010 season after recording a hat trick against No. 16 Virginia Tech. She earned All-Big 12 Second Team recognition in 2009, logging four goals, two assists and 10 points on the season.
Last season, Mautz played for the Chicago Red Stars when they were a squad in the WPSL Elite. She tallied two goals and three assists in 13 games. Previously, she was a draft pick for Sky Blue FC in 2011, appearing in five games, including two starts on the season.
The NWSL is a new eight-team women's soccer league that will be administered by U.S. Soccer. The eight teams in the league are: Boston Breakers, Chicago Red Stars, FC Kansas City, Portland Thorns FC, Sky Blue FC (Piscataway, N.J.), Washington Spirit (Germantown, Md.), Western New York Flash (Rochester, N.Y.) and Seattle Reign FC.
The league is slated to begin play in April 2013 with each team playing 22 games.
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Jesse Christopher Daniel
Jesse Christopher Daniel, two days, of 400 Parkway Drive, St. Marys, died at 7:10 p.m. Saturday, Aug. 6, 2011, at Children's Medical Center in Dayton.
Jesse was born on Aug. 4, 2011, at Joint Township District Memorial Hospital in St. Marys, to Zachary and Katlin (Thompson) Daniel, and they survive him.
He is also survived by his paternal grandparents, Edmund (Carmen) Daniel of St. Marys; his paternal great-grandparents, John (Pauline) Daniel of St. Marys; his maternal grandparents, Gary (Becky) Hittepole of St. Marys; his maternal great-grandparents, Lisa (Chris) Snook of St. Marys; his maternal great-grandfather, Cash Vanover of Petroleum, Ind.; his maternal great-grandmother, Joyce Weekly of Fort Wayne, Ind.; his maternal great-great-grandmother, Margaret Hight of St. Marys; numerous aunts, uncles and cousins.
Jesse will be remembered as a strong little baby who put up a great fight to live. He was loved so much by all his family and was a blessing to their lives.
Funeral rites will be held at 11 a.m. Friday at the Miller Funeral Home, 1605 Celina Road, St. Marys, with the Rev. Alva Daniel officiating. Burial will follow at Elm Grove Cemetery.
Friends may call from 2 p.m. to 4 p.m. and from 6 p.m. to 8 p.m. Thursday at the funeral home, where memorial donations may be made to the neo-natal intensive care unit of Children's Hospital in Dayton.
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Ivan Gazidis recently told reporters that Arsenal are entering an "escalation of financial firepower" and that the club will easily be able to pay the transfer fee and excessive wages of a player like Wayne Rooney.
When asked about Rooney and whether Arsenal could afford his £200k+ weekly wages, Gazidis told the Mirror: "Of course we could do that. We could do more than that.
"We have a certain amount which we've held in reserve. We also have new revenue streams coming on board and all of these things mean we can do some things which would excite you.
"If Arsene thinks signing big names is the right thing to do, yes. The fact is this year we are beginning to see something we have been planning for some time, which is the escalation in our financial firepower.
"We can look at some options that weren't really in our financial capability. It's a progression over the next two seasons. It's quite significant for the club."
Gazidis didn't elaborate on manager Arsene Wenger's targets but it seems that the Gunners will finally be able to compete in the transfer market against their west London rivals Chelsea as well as the two Manchester giants.
Gazidis reiterated that Arsenal is a very ambitious club and that next season could be the one to end the eight-year trophy drought. He even likened the Gunners to European champions Bayern Munich.
"We should be able to compete at a level like a club such as Bayern Munich," he said.
"I'm not saying we are there by any means, we have a way to go before we can put ourselves on that level.
"I think we are an extraordinarily ambitious club.
"This whole journey for the past ten years has been about putting us up with the best in the world and now the question is turning that platform now into on-field success."
Gazidis also hinted that Wenger will extend his contract as he believes Wenger is the man to bring long-awaited success to the Emirates once again.
"We are looking forward to being able to put together something that will make our fans excited optimistic and most importantly it will have us in competition to win something next year," said Gazidis.
"What I will say is that we think we have got a fantastic manager. We hope that he wants to do what he is doing for the long term.
"I believe he does.
"I think he is still ambitious, still driven and sees the potential of the club as he looks forward and I think he is very excited by that.
"We have a great relationship, and he has a great relationship with the board as well.
"So, quietly and at the right time I think we will make an announcement on that when things are all put in place."
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- we sign him, don't play him, we cut him, the pats sign him & he helps them win ANOTHER super bowl....
Here's an even weirder one from the Guardian newspaper in Britain. According to this article our braintrust has been looking at a guy who does kicking tricks in Norway.
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Woot a lil RB from the CFL... That should protect our QBs, give them time to pass, and have less sacks right?!?! RIGHT?!?!
Tannenbaum can't go soon enough. I'm tired of his infatuation with marginal PS type players.
btw, just for info sake, in that video of Kackert? The QB handing him the ball is none other than Ricky Ray.
Since the topic was bumped, any update on the situation?
CFL Players > NCAA DII and DIII players, and the majority of DI Players.
You can find under the radar guys in the CFL and it is for sure a place to look. Jerrell Freeman from Indy, something like 5th in the league in tackles came from there not long ago.
Jets should pursue Chris Williams slot receiver and kick returner from Hamilton.


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Lake Mendota Finally Sees Consistent Breeze
MADISON, Wisc. – The Bulldogs' marathon through Madison has come to its final stretch, the coed national championship. After fighting light breezes for the past week, a 6-15 knot breeze today helped the race committee click off the races. At day's end, Yale sat in fourth with 95 points. Boston College is currently in the lead with 58 points.
This morning, college sailing's crowning event began to unfold before spectators at University of Wisconsin-Madison's Memorial Union and the watchful eyes of ESPN's cameras. Eighteen schools gathered to compete in 420s across two divisions for the most important regatta of the year. Only the hardiest teams made it this far; teams had to qualify for their district championship, qualify for the ICSA semifinal, and lastly, qualify for the national championship.
Though the past week has been one of the lightest in recent memory, the coed championship got off to a quick start. Senior Thomas Barrows and junior Blair Belling took to the water in A division and reeled off a fifth and a second in their first set. Sophomore Joseph Morris and senior Marla Menninger represented Yale in B division and turned in a strong sixth and seventh. The two groups alternated every two races, and Barrows and Belling continued with a 6-14-4-16 score-line. Morris and Menninger turned in a 4-14-15-2 by day's end.
A storm moving through the mid-west tonight may shake up the weather for tomorrow. Forecasts predict thunderstorms are possible and the wind will range from 5-10 knots.
Follow the action live on Twitter here and on TechScore here. Racing begins tomorrow at 9:30 a.m. CDT.
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I for one, welcome our new petabyteFS
Let me guess - you work for the SEC and need it for your porn collection
No, I think that's PEDObyte.
Just keep them away from children (with guns and horrendous megaviolence preferably) and you're golden.
(with guns and horrendous megaviolence preferably)
Why stop at Megaviolence these days when you have Giga, Tera, and even Petaviolence at your disposal.
Also, that's why you simply don't mess with the animal activists. They will go all spatio-temporal distortion on your ass. 8I
640 petabytes should be enough for everybody.
only if I trim my porn collection to only include the actual sex acts...
If you woke up one morning in Tokyo to discover that someone had blurred your genitalia during the night, I'd bet you would consider puking on someone too.
Those were installed by the same guy who mosaic'd your junk.
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New Dream Network has a vacancy for a Senior File Systems Software Engineer in Los Angeles, CA. Minimum requirements – Master's degree in Computer Science or Computer Engineering, minimum of 2 years experience in storage programming, and background in Linux kernel programming, file systems development, network programming and Operating Systems design.
Qualified applicants should send a plain text resume to firstname.lastname@example.com
Qualified applicants should send a plain text resume
Ha! That'll cut down on the noise. I wonder how many job seekers have ever heard of plain text?
"Plain text". That's just a Microsoft Word document with no embedded images or graphs or anything, right?
Cue image of hordes of Microsoft-Certified job seekers searching in vain for a font titled "Plain Text".
Don't quit your day job just yet.
Not quite, it's a OLE compound document with an embedded Plain Text object.
I sent mine in ANSI format so I could blink my contact info...
BAUDOT thanks.
Look at Google and Facebook, arguably among the top users of massive databases. They have petabytes upon petabytes of data stored and are constantly growing. But what happens if they lose some data?
Nothing. They can always go back and regenerate that data. It's just a matter of time.
So at this large scale, it doesn't make any sense at all to focus on data integrity beyond making sure that fopen() and fread() don't return garbage. It's the smaller databases that contain critical information that need data in
Google's BigFile/BigTable architecture is a distributed filesystem. if a node goes down, the data that was on that node gets copied to other nodes to keep the replication count up.
Facebook is using apache cassandra, which adopts similar designs.
Yes, but Google's file system makes no attempt to implement either the POSIX standard or the Linux VFS. It's highly specialized to only deal with the types of loads that Google sees. As a general solution, it's worth is debatable.
Yes, but Google's file system makes no attempt to implement either the POSIX standard or the Linux VFS. It's highly specialized to only deal with the types of loads that Google sees. As a general solution, it's worth is debatable.
But that is not what the original question was about. The original question was about sites like Google or Facebook using anything like a distributed file system to keep from losing data.
Facebook uses MySQL/memcached, cassandra is only used for systems running the statistical analysis.
While google may be able to go ahead and re-index websites if it loses that data, "regenerating" gmail and google docs stuff isn't quite so easy, and even small amounts of data loss would kill those applications (especially among paid users).
Nothing. They can always go back and regenerate that data. It's just a matter of time.
You just contradicted yourself. You're right; it's just a matter of time. Only, thing is, this is the Internet. How long to recreate that data? Weeks? Months? Years? 6 months is an eternity on the Net.
If all the accounts and stories were lost on Slashdot due to a massive database failure, how many people would come back, creating a new account and so forth? How many long would it take before there was enough content and accounts to make it interesting again? Now realize that Slashdot is a drop in the bucket compared to Google.
Why? Is there something special about those?
You must be new here!
Nothing special at all. It only means Taco used sequential instead of randomised integers for user ids, which in turn can be viewed as a very loose chronology of user registrations.
In other words, no.
Yeah, but it's a pretty big prime.
Yes but it's not an "optimus prime".
Second, you have other sectors producing large amount of data beside your favourite networking website. One example is the LHC. It is going to produce terabytes of data per DAY (15 petabytes per year). Another are space telescopes. Those data can't just be 'regenerated'. 1 day worth of data is incredibly expensive to produce.
Distributed file systems are already there, and people use them. Maybe not on your level of computer usage.
When you don't know what you are talking about, I think it is better to just keep quiet.
When you don't know what you are talking about, I think it is better to just keep quiet.
That would reduce the number of posts on slashdot by about 99%.
Why do you assume that:
A: PB storage is very rare and only used by several large organizations.
B: PB storage is used to house generated data the can easily be replaced.
- Gilboa
Nothing. They can always go back and regenerate that data. It's just a matter of time.
No, they can't. This is a really, really important distinction to make. They cannot "regenerate" the data. They *might* (perhaps even "probably") be able to "recopy" the data, *assuming the original source is still available*.
Thanks. I was about to download it to service my rather large storage requirements for porn, but it seems too risky now.
Yep and they are using btrfs for the underlying filesystem which is also not at the production use stage.
Would you clarify what the difference between Ceph and BTRFS is? From the description I thought that is what BTRFS and ZFS were supposed to be.
"Do you have support for smooth, full-screen Flash video yet?"
Frankly, that's Adobe's fault, not ours.
Yes it is ours. If "ours" means: Us idiots who made Flash dominant in the first place, by using it in any way.
It always takes two. The ass doing it, and the idiot letting him do it. That guy with the narrow mustache from the 40s would agree to that: "What luck for rulers that men do not think." ^^
Frankly, that's Adobe's fault, not ours.
It could be our fault if you wanted it to be:
http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/ [gnu.org]
http://swfdec.freedesktop.org/wiki/ [freedesktop.org]
At least link the the comic you're totally not ripping from.
http://xkcd.com/619/ [xkcd.com]
I don't read XKCD...
that's actually a good idea.
in Soviet Russia, Yakov smimoff [youtube.com] Links you!
Even so. The this whole argument is mindless nonsense. Adobe finally only offered partial acceleration support even for Windows just recently.
The idea that any variant of Flash is any better than any other (or worse) is just Lemming nonsense.
Yes, but users of OSs that don't can't understand why anyone would use an OS that doesn't.
"Do you have support for smooth, full-screen Flash video yet?"
A) Yes, I do. MPlayer will play any Flash videos, with a bare minimum of resources, and fully supports multiple video output methods, like xv and gl.
The PROBLEM is that Flash videos aren't directly available anywhere... You have to parse through a SWF video player object to even determine where to FIND the URL of the actual FLV or MP4 file. And add to that extremely aggressive plugin detection scripts on many sites, which will refuse to even embed the SWF if you happen to have an unknown VERSION of the flash player. Unfortunately, I've mentioned this before, and got several interested replies, but nobody has thus far written a browser plug-in that will masquerade as Flash 10, and understand just enough SWF to find the URLs, and either present them to the users, or automatically pass them to MPlayer. A sad, sad failing, to be sure, since
B) I (and many, many others) care VASTLY more about Linux's support for massive storage arrays than we do for it's support of Flash, and other user-level fluff. My servers never need to visit YouTube... But booting from a hard drive more than 2 terabytes??? Don't expect Windows to let you do that, without very specialized hardware (EFI firmware). Linux, however, can do it out of the box with many common distros.
I'm not really sure how much a petabyte is. Could someone please translate to Natalie Portmans? or Station wagons full of congresses? or Rods to the Hogshead?
I think I'll stick with ZFS. It's a million times better, give or take.
dont quote me on it as im too tired to look it up but i believe a petabyte is 1000 terabytes... and last i checked thats like billions of rods of hogsheds worth of Natalie Portmans being used as station wagons full of congresses.
Tera -> Tetra -> 4 -> 1000^4
Peta -> Penta (like Pentagram) -> 5 -> 1000^5
Exa -> Hexa (like Hexagon) -> 6 -> 1000^6
Zeta -> Setta (like 7 in many languages) -> 7 -> 1000^7
Yotta -> Otta -> 8 -> 1000^8
Or use 1024 if you don't like IEEE/IEC norms...
I see a lot too many layers over layers there. Which always smells like the inner-platform anti-pattern [wikipedia.org] that a "enterprise consultant" would to, to me.
But maybe I'm just misunderstanding things and that amount of layers is needed for large installations. Anyone here, who actually administers such large storage systems and read the article? Would be interesting to hear from someone with daily experience in this.
Also, I could not find any mentioning of any ZFS-like scrubbing going on. Which
Did I miss it, or did they really forget that crucial part?
You missed it. There is a scrubbing mechanism in ceph.
Also it uses BTRFS as the local filesystem, which does quiet a few checks as well.
The first word in the article summary is "Linux®"
Does that look weird to anyone else? I realize it's technically correct for the registered trademark symbol to be there, but somehow it just doesn't seem right.
Definitely looks weird. I always write it in all-lowercase. But apparently the trademark is either all-caps ("LINUX®") or the standard capitalized form ("Linux®") [linuxmark.org]
Someone should remind them to register "linux®" (all lowercase), before Darl tries to. A capital first letter just doesn't look right.
A word mark is always registered as all upper case. Lower and mixed case are still covered.
This is simply not true. For example, in Australia, the word "iPAD" (Siemens) vs "IPAD" (Apple) http://pericles.ipaustralia.gov.au/atmoss/Falcon_Users_Cookies.Run_Create [ipaustralia.gov.au]
Trade Mark : 1120005
International Registration : 885058
Word: iPAD
Lodgement Date: 20-MAR-2006
Notification Date: 22-JUN-2006
Convention Details: 28-FEB-2006
004 928 859
Registered From: 20-MAR-2006
Ceph reminds me more of Coda than glusterfs. Anyone remember coda?
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Bluffton comes from behind to top Denison 78-74 in overtimeBy Tim Stried
December 21, 2002
Bluffton College trailed Denison University for most of the second half but came back to tie the game at the end of regulation and force overtime, where the Beavers outscored the Big Red 13-9 to take a 78-74 win Saturday afternoon in Founders Hall.
Senior Mike Leimeister scored 31 points and senior Marcus Bixler scored a career-high 19 points, with nine of those points coming in the extra period as he hit a 3-pointer and made six free throws.
The two teams traded leads in the first half and went to the locker room tied at halftime 37-37. Denison went up by as many as six points in the second half but Bixler hit a 3-pointer with 1:50 remaining in regulation and then a lay-up with 0:52 to play to tie the game at 65-65.
Bluffton missed a 3-pointer and a lay-up on the game's final possession in regulation, but the Beavers took control of the game in overtime to improve to 3-6 overall. Denison falls to 2-7.
Sophomore Bryce Beilharz scored seven points and tied a career high with four rebounds, while senior Derek DeNero scored nine points and grabbed seven rebounds.
Bluffton, which saw their first overtime action of the season, committed a season-low seven turnovers and converted 22-of-29 free throw attempts. The win was the first of the season for BC when being out-rebounded by their opponent (now 1-6 when that happens) and also the first of the season when shooting less than 50% from the floor (now 1-4 when that happens). In addition, the win was the first this season for BC when their opponent shoots better from the floor than they do (now 1-3 when that happens).
Bluffton will return to action on Monday, December 30 at 8 p.m. against Madonna University (Mich.) in the Fifth Annual McDonald's of Bluffton Holiday Tournament.


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Providing Client Authorization: Approach and Configuration
Step 1: Login
The approach I discuss uses an NT login module. Login modules are identified by a name in a configuration file (see Listing Two) and then called by a LoginContext class that JAAS provides (see Listing Three).
GetNTLoginModule { com.sun.security.auth.module.NTLoginModule required; };
Most of these modules expect to be run from an application or on the command line, and thus to be able to interact directly with users. This argument (-D java.security.auth.login.config=jaas.conf) is required on the JVM. Essentially, this authenticates users who have already logged into NT. Authentication is defined as the act of verifying that a user is a JAAS Subject and that contains certain JAAS Principals -- "who you are."
The JAAS Subject is retrieved using the code in Listing Three. The Subject at the login contains the Principals associated with the user's login domain. A Principal is one view of the Subject. The API states that it "represents the abstract notion of a principal, which can be used to represent any entity, such as an individual, a corporation, and a login id. A Principal is used for authorization can be thought of as a role or a group, but those terms have special meaning in J2EE. Authorization is the act of verifying that users are to access a certain resource -- "what you may do."
lc = new LoginContext("GetNTLoginModule"); lc.login(); subject = lc.getSubject();
Step 2: SAML Token Acquisition and Parsing
A call must be made to a SAML token provider in order to get the XML token. This example used ADFS (Active Directory Federation Services) as a SAML Authority.
// Call to get assertion to add all groups from token here. ADFSAuthenticator asserter = new ADFSAuthenticator(); assertion = asserter.getAssertion(); //instantiate a parser obj for testing DomParser dp = new DomParser(assertion); //call run parser and return list of groups from token
After the token is acquired in the form of a String object (see Listing One) it is passed to the XML parser (see Listing Four). The Group Principal name is retrieved by read the saml:AttributeValue element on the token (see Listing Five, parseDocument method).
public class DomParser { ... /* Build a DOM with the SAML token */ private void parseXml(){ //get the factory DocumentBuilderFactory dbf = DocumentBuilderFactory.newInstance(); dbf.setNamespaceAware(true); dbf.setValidating(false); dbf.setExpandEntityReferences(true); dbf.setIgnoringComments(true); dbf.setIgnoringElementContentWhitespace(true); dbf.setCoalescing(true); dbf.setExpandEntityReferences(true); try { //Using factory get an instance of document builder DocumentBuilder db = dbf.newDocumentBuilder(); StringReader sr = new StringReader(assertion); InputSource is = new InputSource(sr); dom = db.parse(is); }catch(ParserConfigurationException pce) { pce.printStackTrace(); }catch(SAXException se) { se.printStackTrace(); }catch(IOException ioe) { ioe.printStackTrace(); } } /* Parse token for SAML group element */ private void parseDocument(){ //get the root elememt Element docEle = dom.getDocumentElement(); //get a nodelist of <employee> elements NodeList nl = docEle.getElementsByTagName("saml:AttributeValue"); if(nl != null && nl.getLength() > 0) { for(int i = 0 ; i < nl.getLength();i++) { // get item in node String name = (String)nl.item(i).getTextContent(); Employee e = new Employee(name); //add it to list myEmpls.add(e); } } } /* Get the List of SAML groups */ public List getGroupList() { return myEmpls; } ... }
Step 3: Combine SAML Token Group Principals with an Existing a JAAS Subject
A Collection List containing Group Principals from the SAML token is retrieved by calling the getGroupList method on the DomParser object (see Listing Four). With the JAAS Subject and List of Group Principals created in Step 1 and 2, respectively, the application has the necessary information required to perform authorization.
Step 4: Enable RBAC for Web service Invocations
The Sequence Diagram in Figure 2 specifies a custom LocalAuthorizer object, which provisions Group Principals to the Subject and is used for RBAC.
The Sequence diagram (Figure 2) view of participating classes, roles and responsibilities includes:
- LocalAuthorizer, used to provide RBAC for Java client invoked application objects and to provision Group Principals into the JAAS Subject.
- DomParser, used to parse Active Directory Groups from the SAML token.
- ADFSPrincipal implements the JAAS Principal and is used to store a users identity, including what groups he is a member of.
- ADFSGroup implements the JAAS Group and is used to add members to a group.
The LocalAuthorizer constructor takes a List argument, which contains the Group Principals, retrieved from the SAML authority, in this case ADFS. The Group Principals are merged with the Principals already associated with the user's existing Subject acquired from the user's login domain. The JAAS Subject is essentially a local credential cache.
Using that same SAML assertion that is used by the Web service policy insures that the security model is internally consistent between client and server applications. For example, only users in the "Customer_Service" group can invoke the operation (see Listing Six) and, in turn, the Web service would be using the same token in order to administer access control on the Web service.
The application uses the LocalAuthorizer object's getName and isInRole methods, which returns the user name and whether the user is in already configures role, respectively. A JAAS role is equivalent to an Active Directory group.
if (user.isInRole(Iconstants.Customer_Service) { //Based on group access privileges allow access to a specific Web service client.operation(assertion); }
With previous generation distributed technologies (DCE, for instance) using Kerberos within a DCE Cell was inextricably linked to using the DCE RPC. With Web services technologies, there is nothing in place that preempts your using a SOAP RPC call without security.
However, in the case of Web services, bindings are available for a host of programming languages. Because of the distributed nature of Web services technology, many organizations are putting Web services applications into play where sensitive information may be compromised. While the Web services programming model is flexible, the security model is austere.
The distributed nature of the Web services requires that security mechanisms also need to be multi-purpose. The security model I propose in this article deviates, to a degree, from the standard approaches dictated by the technologies. These deviations are a result of using viable approaches to implementing the technology, that is, a Web service client implemented as a Java application. However, they are not necessarily accepted as standard approaches. SAML is a server-to-server technology, or server-to-browser technology.
In short, the security models available for Web service need to be as omnipresent as the client Web services programming languages.


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By Ethan Bilby
BRUSSELS (Reuters) - The physicists who theorized the existence of a basic subatomic particle half a century ago are confident recent data is proving they were right all along.
Peter Higgs, whose eponymous "Higgs boson" is the long-sought target of the $10 billion Large Hadron collider in Switzerland, told reporters on Tuesday he was sure a particle detected last July was one he had predicted in 1964.
"I think it will turn out to be (the Higgs boson), but it's just a question of getting out the additional information."
Data so far from CERN's LHC particle accelerator seemed unlikely to reveal a more exotic set of particles, Higgs said, and "fit too well" with a single particle that gives mass to matter envisaged by the Standard Model of physics.
"As far as I can see from the results now it's not yet totally confirmed, but it's practically sure - I'm ready to bet on it," Belgian physicist Francois Englert, who also theorized the particle, said before giving a speech to the European Parliament in Brussels.
Although the scientists predicted the presence of the particle years earlier, it took a multinational effort of over 100 countries to build the LHC, which two years into its operation yielded a result.
Higgs said that this type of collaborative research helped not only science, but the economy as a whole, and he was worried about proposed cuts to European Union science funding.
"What you do by cutting the science budget is to reduce your supply of young trained scientists who will do other things which are obviously more useful for your economy," he said.
"You may be cutting down on things which will provide a stimulus for your economy in the not too distant future."
For Higgs, who at 83 has retired from active research, the sudden attention brought on by the LHC discovery last July has been a little overwhelming.
"It has resulted in piles of piles of letters and emails on my floor at home," he said, explaining he had needed to enlist help from a team of colleagues just to sort through it.
The bashful professor has no hard feelings that he's not yet been tapped for the Nobel Prize in physics, saying he "was reprieved" and "got a stay of execution".
Touted by some as a possible winner in 2013, Higgs said that winning the Nobel for his work might leave the prize committee the unenviable task of having to choose between a number of co-discoverers, but he acknowledged he was in the running.
"As for what happens next year, I certainly feel vulnerable."
(Reporting by Ethan Bilby; Editing by Mark Heinrich)


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Super Duper Publications is partnering with U.S. retail and online resellers to sell its children's educational products. The company has more than 750 common core and state standards-aligned card decks, games, workbooks, software programs, mobile apps, and more for children ages 3 to 12.
Previously, the company mostly sold directly to consumers and educators, and only offered certain items to retailers. "We are very excited about working with retailers to bring our unique products to parents and educators throughout the country," said Super Duper president Sharon Webber.
Super Duper also has over 40 international resellers that distribute its products worldwide. To date, the most popular Super Duper creations include the HearBuilder programs, which have helped students dramatically improve their early learning and pre-reading skills, such as basic concepts, following directions, phonological/sound awareness, auditory/listening memory, and sequencing.


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Manchester City striker Mario Balotelli's agent Mino Raiola has said his player's relationship with Roberto Mancini is 'like that between a husband and his wife.'
Raiola, Balotelli's agent and adviser, also insisted the Italy international is not interested in leaving Manchester City, after reports had linked the former-Inter Milan star with a return to Serie 'A'.
After Balotelli was recently left out of Manchester City's matchday squad to face Tottenham, the Italy striker was reportedly a target for AC Milan in the January transfer window, but Raiola revealed Balotelli sees his future at the Etihad Stadium.
Raiola said in the Daily Mail: "Balotelli's relationship with Mancini is like that between a husband and his wife. They argue but they love and respect each other so much. Everyone has their own ideas, but Mario will remain at Manchester City. He won't go to AC Milan.
"He will be a City player for at least another two-and-a-half years because Mario is not thinking about other clubs."
The report claims City rejected a £40m bid from Paris St Germain for Balotelli in the summer, but Mancini has become frustrated at the 22-year-old's inability to avoid controversy. After he was left out of the squad to face Tottenham, Balotelli was reportedly spotted in a nightclub at 1am the night before the match.
The young striker has just one goal for Manchester City this season - in the defeat to Aston Villa in the Capital One Cup - and has found himself on the fringes of the first-team this season with Edin Dzeko preferred off the bench.
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Oracle Adds Marketing Automation Software In Eloqua Purchase
Oracle managed to squeeze in a major acquisition just before the Mayan Apocalypse, plunking down $871 million to acquire marketing automation SaaS vendor Eloqua. Oracle says Eloqua has about 1,200 customers and a user base of around 100,000 worldwide. Its software provides seamless integration with CRM platforms and other enterprise systems. It also has an online software marketplace, Eloqua AppCloud, where customers can buy third-party applications.


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Moviefone's Unscripted Taking Questions for Harry Potter Cast and Director
Nov 04, 2010
Actor Interviews
Moviefone's popular series, Unscripted, is bringing the stars of "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows" together to interview one another and answer questions from the fans.
Daniel Radcliffe (Harry), Rupert Grint (Ron), and Emma Watson (Hermione) took part in an Unscripted interview during 2007 for "Order of the Phoenix," but this time they will be joined by fellow co-stars Tom Felton (Draco) and Jason Isaacs (Lucius) and director David Yates.
Moviefone is asking fans to leave their questions as a comment to this blog post. The deadline is Tuesday, Nov. 9 at 10 a.m. EST. Moviefone will publish the video interview with the actors a week later on Nov. 16.


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Michigan is the #8 seed in the West Region and will play #9 Tennessee. Winner of that plays
Dare to dream match-up for Michigan:
The #2 seed in the bottom of the West Region is San Diego State, coached by former Michigan head coach Steve Fisher.
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The global economy is still struggling to overcome the effects of the recession sparked by the 2008 financial crisis. But energy — in particular, shale gas exploration — has become one of the strongest engines for the U.S. economy. U.S. natural gas production has increased by one-fourth in the past five years, according to the Energy Information Administration; it has created 600,000 jobs since 2009 and helped drive down gas prices for millions of Americans. Moreover, the United States is now in a position to export gas. This surplus creates opportunities for the United States to again be a geopolitical player in Europe.
While U.S. officials ponder their approach to Syria, the larger Middle East and Central Asia, they need look no farther than Central Europe and the "Visegrád Four" (Hungary, Poland, the Czech Republic and Slovakia) to find some of the United States' most passionate allies. Our countries' commitment to the transatlantic relationship is unwavering. But we remain vulnerable to "energy diplomacy" because of our overwhelming reliance on Russian gas and oil. Nations in Central Europe import 50 to 100 percent of their gas from Russia. In comparison, Western Europe imports only 17 percent.
Our region has done much to modernize its inherited energy-transmission systems, which, until recently, reflected the Soviet era's east-west supply routes. New pipeline connections and other technological improvements make the Central European energy infrastructure more flexible and more secure than it was even four years ago. Yet Gazprom's monopolistic position in supplying most of our countries makes gas prices for millions in our region many times higher than in the United States.
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We'll all be perfectly free to say whatever we like...on whatever sites our ISP's let us access. And if you don't like what your ISP is doing, you can just switch to one of the hundreds of alternate broadband providers that we all have.
Wow, I think I just sprained my sarcasm tendon.
Wow, I think I just sprained my sarcasm tendon.
Don't tell your doctor! He'll turn you over to the police!
As long as the back haul is neutral then people are free to start up community co-op ISPs. It's not provider neutrality that I see as most important but backbone neutrality. QoS is one thing but restricting what type of traffic or who the traffic comes from is ridiculous. All connections should permit all legal connections and come with proper management to permit continual usage of the link at an appropriate speed intended to provide the same transfer to all users who are attempting to use it, and to accurately divide the available bandwidth equally (or otherwise appropriately) between the customers who have paid for it.
With that said, there is literally one choice in my county for internet access, AT&T. Everyone else here resells them. I do not count satellite which is unacceptable in a broad variety of ways. I don't necessarily trust AT&T to carry my packets to their eventual destination. Indeed, immediately after my local WISP was moved from an AT&T reseller to AT&T directly, we were placed on some seriously non-neutral segment where we had fast access to many sites (of course including AT&T, but ALSO including non-AT&T sites, meaning that it wasn't simply fast access to AT&T internal resources) but where we had essentially no access to many other sites including Slashdot and Alternet. After we [the users] complained to them en masse (reportedly) they complained up the chain and we were placed on the "proper" network, which does not [appear to] have this problem. So clearly some AT&T customers are already living on a non-neutral net...
No, it wasn't a co-op [wikipedia.org] ISP, it was a municipal ISP [slashdot.org].
>>>It's not provider neutrality that I see as most important but backbone neutrality.
In the ideal world the Internet line would be just like the telephone line, where you can choose from dozens of companies for service. Also I'm curious what the ACLU means by "Freedom of expression isn't worth much if the forums where people actually make use of it are not themselves free." Forums, like slashdot, are privately owned. You DON'T have a right to free speech. You have a right to obey the
You do have the choice of thousands if not millions of sites to express your opinion and it has be proven time and time again when sites heavily censor posting to match their marketing and business goals participation dies rapidly and often permanently.
The internet however always hits numerous choke points starting at possible reasonably priced kerb connections to main backbone trunks and on global issues undersea cables.
Then there is slowing opposition response for day and, weeks while the for profit
Forums, like slashdot, are privately owned. You DON'T have a right to free speech. You have a right to obey the rules of the forum sysop, even if he's a tyrant. It's his domain; his rules.
Governments have massive power over the people, and so many states around the world have come to the conclusion that making the government have to tolerate what people have to say is best for everyone. Well, except the people running the government, but that's kinda the point - to reign in the power they wield.
The most powerful entities in society come and go over time, and this can be seen through the buildings that get built. The most powerful entity in a society tends to build the biggest buildings, to show of their power, assert dominance, whatever. These days corporations build most of the biggest buildings (skyscrapers), but not so long back governments the builders of the biggest places. Further back in history, and huge churches and cathedrals were being built, and during points of history when royal families were at the top, palaces and castles were the biggest buildings around.
My point is that any powerful groups are a threat to the liberty of an individual, and we are living in a time when corporations are gaining more and more power everyday. Yes, governments may still be more powerful in some ways, but that doesn't cancel out or negate the power corporations have, and so corporations should have to allow some things they may not like for the same reasons that the government has to allow things it may not like.
The you're for... ok, how am I supposed to communicate freely when the ISPs own the internet and the phone companies own the phone lines?
"Forums, like slashdot, are privately owned. You DON'T have a right to free speech. You have a right to obey the rules of the forum sysop, even if he's a tyrant. It's his domain; his rules."
I do have a right to free speech, even if the forum is privately owned. And the forum owner has the right to remove my message from his board.
His right to control what is posted does not negate my right to free speech. My Right to Free speech is god given and only god can remove it from me. However, his right to control
All connections should permit all legal connections...
Who's in charge of legal connections? By your argument, ISPs should be able to deny you access to organizations that do not comply with the Government's PATRIOT laws. With such a distinction, you cannot have free speech.
All connections should permit all legal connections...
Who's in charge of legal connections? By your argument, ISPs should be able to deny you access to organizations that do not comply with the Government's PATRIOT laws. With such a distinction, you cannot have free speech.
If it falls into the realm of the Government's laws dictating what organizations get access, doesn't that allow you to argue for things under the first ammendment, so you don't have to deal with the "Internet is a service provided by a private company who can do what they want with it" kind of stuff?
As long as the back haul is neutral then people are free to start up community co-op ISPs. It's not provider neutrality that I see as most important but backbone neutrality.
I really think the key is to enforce a separation between the infrastructure provider and the service provider. Let's say Verizon builds the actual backbone and the line to your house-- the whole thing-- then they should be absolutely forbidden from acting as an ISP or cable company. They should have to lease use of their lines to other service providers at a consistent rate, with no special side deals.
In my opinion, vertical integration [wikipedia.org] is the culprit here. You get one company who owns the cables in th
Fortunately for the proponents of net neutrality, there's never been a case of a government using its regulatory power to curtail free speech. Only private corporations do that.
Unfortunately for the shills and useful idiots there's plenty of cases where the government has used its regulatory power to protect free speech. Like the common-carrier laws which are part of the "network neutrality" we had for land-line telephones.
Speaking of common carriers, why not make it a choice on the part of the ISPs -- let them either accept common carrier status which requires them to be a "dumb pipe" as it were (no restrictions beyond basic QoS) but accordingly frees them from responsibility for what goes over the line, or let them elect to do all the nefarious filtering and such, at which point they are responsible and liable for everything that goes across their lines in both directions.
I'm sorry MPAA, but my ISP is not a common carrier,
Yeah, ISPs want to have it both ways. I don't see why they're able to get away with that.
Are they a telephone company, or are they a newspaper? Pick one. Don't get to be both.
No has there ever been a case of the government using its authority to protect citizens' rights against the whims of private corporations.
Oop, just sprained the other one too.
How do you remain standing? One must be rolling on the floor...preferably laughing rather than crying.
Fortunately for the proponents of net neutrality, there's never been a case of a government using its regulatory power to curtail free speech.
Huh? I can think of 2 instances without even breaking a sweat: McCain-Feingold (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bipartisan_Campaign_Reform_Act [wikipedia.org] and the "Fairness Doctrine" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairness_Doctrine [wikipedia.org].
I wonder why the ACLU didn't fight those free-speech abrogations? Don't answer, that was a rhetorical question. The ACLU is only pro-free-speech when
Actually, though, I am glad the ACLU came out in favor of net neutrality. They are a good litmus test for me. I have been torn on the issue, but now that they have taken a side I now know which position I support.
If they come out against jumping off bridges, will you jump off a bridge?
If that seems like a stupid question, consider the context.
Money is not speech. If it were, the rich would have more right to speech than the poor. We are supposed to be founded on the proposition that all men are created equal, but some men are created rich and most are not. Being rich buys you privilege, but it doesn't buy you rights that others lack.
Fairness Doctrine
Again, can I get a TV station? No, there are no open frequencies left. Again, this is not an infringement of free speech rights, just an inftringement of a monied class privilege. These are not free speech issues. The "speech zones" during the last decade are, though, and these "free speech" zones [wikipedia.org] are worrisome. "The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) has filed, with various degrees of success and failure, a number of lawsuits on the issue."
Sorry, buddy, take your wealth and shove it, I'm on the ACLU's side here. Your money isn't speech, and if you have to pay for speech, it isn't free speech.
Um, in my area. I only have dial-up ISPs and cable. I can't get DSL, FIOS, etc. IDSL, ISDN, T*, satellite Internet, etc. are too expensive and/or slow.
I'm not sure I fully agree. Unless providers would completely block certain websites instead of merely slowing them, there wouldn't be a supression of free speech.
Comcast slows all access to "ComCastSucks.com" to 1 byte per second, as well as all it's competitors websites, any newspaper who it doesn't agree with, and also refuses to share peer traffic with any game-console service / MMORPG except for the Xbox unless the user pays extra. What's the matter?! I didn't *BLOCK* anything!
There's your problem right there. Being able to shape traffic (which is effectively a temporary denial, but on millisecond-scales) is the same as blocking it for a short period of time.
The problem with net-biased (what's the opposite of net-neutral?) ISP's is not their ability to block things. It's their ability to make a service 100% unusable in practical terms even if they are 100% fine in theory. If only 1% of my TCP packets get to the destination, that's not technically "blocking" any particular website / protocol / service, but you try forming a reliable connection and downloading a webpage, or a file, or interacting with other users of the service.
Imagine the net ran through a router with an iptables rule of:
iptables -A INPUT -p icmp --icmp-type echo-request -m random --average 99 -j DROP
but ONLY on the websites / protocols that the ISP chooses (and / or is being paid by).
Imagine the net ran through a router with an iptables rule of:
iptables -A INPUT -p icmp --icmp-type echo-request -m random --average 99 -j DROP
but ONLY on the websites / protocols that the ISP chooses (and / or is being paid by).
Yea without pings they'll be a quakin' in their boots.
Dontcha mean something more like:
iptables -A INPUT -d 22.214.171.124/16 -m statistic --mode random --probability 0.01 -j DROP
(that ip block being their "psuedo-competitor" att as in ns1.attdns.att.net etc etc)
Or were you making it up not knowing its actually implemented in iptables?
If you're going to be an evil genius, at least do it right, not like Dr Doofenshmirtz
Typo - the icmp stuff was in the example I copied / pasted but I edited it out for something that has [IP you don't like here]. Must've pasted it again over the top without realising.
There's your problem right there. Being able to shape traffic (which is effectively a temporary denial, but on millisecond-scales) is the same as blocking it for a short period of time.
I worry that this begins to fall apart along the lines of BitTorrent. Some kinds of traffic, running contrary to the design of the network itself, is actually more harmful than the interference by the ISP. So who gets to decide? Nobody? Because that worries me.
I get the argument that BitTorrent might someday force the ISP to give what they advertised, but in the meantime those same small voices that we're worried about protecting are going to be suppressed by natural causes introduced via upside-down tr
There's two schools of thought here.
1) Net neutrality is important to free speech because the ISPs will invariably abuse the rules (without breaking them, of course) laid out if they are allowed to slow down certain types of traffic. They will slow it to the point that it becomes unusable (file sharing, anyone?), or slow down access to competitor's sites (again to the point where they become unusble). The companaies will claim they won't, but history has proven otherwise.
2) Net neutrality is only good if
Net Neutrality should mean that no content of the same type can have different priorities. You can have QoS that put VOIP > HTTP > Bittorrent, but not iTunes MP3 file > Jamendo MP3 file.
There is this commonly perpetuated myth that you can't do any sort of network management without being "discriminatory".
It's pretty easy to manage protocols or customers and completely ignore the external endpoints.
It can also be done in a "blind" fashion that is neutral by any definition of that word you care to come up with.
Restricting grandpa because he's connecting to Picasa is another matter entirely.
Yeah, and this is stupid anyway. It's pretty easy to start connections to sites fast and then gradually slow them slightly, so everyone's web browsing has blazing speeds...until they transfer more than 10 megs in a minute, at which point their speed get slightly slowed, or at least put second in the queue.
Or, even better, forget IPs...everyone gets QoS'd...except the first X packets every minute, which should be about 1/10th of the total bandwidth they have. The people still on the first 1/10th compete wit
At what point do you draw the line between "slowing" and "stopping"?
Simple. Enact legislation (yes yes, I know) that would would say ISPs have to provide a minimum of 1/3rd the advertised speed when throttling technology is used. No muss, no fuss.
Simple. Enact legislation (yes yes, I know) that would would say ISPs have to provide a minimum of 1/3rd the advertised speed when throttling technology is used. No muss, no fuss.
Whom gets sued when whatever.com gets slashdotted or whatever and speeds drop to 1/3 of the advertised speeds due to poor peering rather than throttling?
Is it "throttling" if a "tier 1 ISP" in the default free zone decides they will only peer with the pirate bay directly using, say, a 56K DDS connection instead of 10gig ethernet, and forces their traffic thru that link using BGP (trivial)?
Because of course once it has become accepted that access to certain parts of the net should be slower because they don't pay, the next step of not providing access if they don't pay for it, or maybe don't meet the approval process... well that just won't enter anybody's head who ain't
As for, as long as the backbone remains free somebody else comments...
Yeah, because printing presses ain't restri
I can see the talking heads now...
"Does the ACLU want to allow Muslim extremists the right to terrorize your school's website? Find out more with our special report, Net Neutrality: Government Takeover"
The ACLU has defended a lot of doucebags in their time, but one can't argue against their impartiality; they generally fall on the side of rights, regardless of how loony the person or group they are representing. Gotta give them credit for that.
I don't want net neutrality to become a partisan issue
It's a little late for that
I see the US political right as having a generally negative opinion of the ACLU
Responding authoritatively for exactly one former republican, they don't hate the ACLU because they hate four letter acronyms beginning with the letter "A", its much more like that tired old saying "they hate us for our freedom".
Back when the statists mostly hung out with the Ds and the libertarians mostly hung out with the Rs it wasn't so bad, but the religious loonies expelled all of us out of the R party hence my "former" self description. Then the statists invaded the Rs, so we really only have two sid
Their reputation has been sullied by the mere fact of who they are. I am a huge supporter of them because they understand that the same rules that apply to unconvicted pedophiles, murderers, rapists, and terrorists also apply to every other US citizen.
I often find it ironic how conservative talking heads bash the ACLU as defending "commies and left wing nuts", but when *they* want free expression they're happy to get the ACLU involved to help. The ACLU is a one issue group. They think you have a right to say... whatever stupid, crazy, brilliant, inspired, idiotic, hateful, useful, useless, or wonderful thing you want to say. Period. No matter where you fall on the political spectrum. I can respect that.
Agreed. The First Amendment affirms your right to speak but not the right to demand a publicly-supplied soap box. On a side note, it's odd that all kinds of interest groups are pushing NN... Right Wing and Left Wing alike. The radicals realize NN can guarantee them an audience by law - not by earning it.
Well put. "Rights" does not mean other people are slaves to your desires and wishes. It is an abused concept.
Hmmm, does your ISP have a TOS? If so, then by using that service you are agreeing to the idea that they have the right to set terms for your service, that connecting to their pipes can come with limitations. Branding it "internet access" doesn't convey any special protected rights to you, only that you can access the internet, in accordance with their terms. Your TOS probably doesn't even spell out that you will be guaranteed access to the entire internet. As long as they are providing you access to pa
I'm fairly sure they can claim jurisdiction using the interstate commerce clause. Most ISPs aren't state-specific, and they're accessing a nationwide network.
I don't have a choice of ISP. The vast majority of people who do have a choice have only two choices, usually Verizon/Comcast, AT&T/Cablevision or some other combination of gigantic, shitty companies. They can go fuck themselves if they want to restrict which sites are available through the pipe they provide; it's not their business to be doing so.
The answer to THAT is to end the franchise monopoly system, and allow real competition in the local last-mile marketplace. Free-markets for the win.
My grandad used to tell black people who came in his restaurant the same thing. Damned government has no right to force private businesses to observe people's "civil rights." The niggers are always free to go to another restaurant if they don't like it.
Sounds like your granddad was a bigoted asshole. And correct about property rights.
"I hate what you say, but I would die for your right to say it."
(if the private business adopts corporate formation, all bets are off, of course)
And correct about property rights.
Not after 1964 he wasn't.
Did you Grandad also take their money THEN refuse them service?
Because thats what ISP's are doing.
I have mod points that I wanted to use in this thread, but I decided I'd rather comment.
From a legal perspective, your grandad was right as far as I am concerned. I don't see anything in the constitution that grants the government the authority to enforce non-discrimination laws. The interstate commerce clause is laughable, as most of the discriminatory behavior is related to intrastate commerce. Application of the 14th amendment argument is also limited, as it only applies to cases where certain actions ag
Because in this case, the government contibuted a great deal of your tax money to building the network structure that stretches across the nation today. if we paid for it as a country then the first amendment applies fully and reduces an ISP fom being a 'platform'' to being a means to access the platform.
The same mentality was going around when the company I work for told people that they basically could be let go for revealing internal operation details on social networking sites.
Some people think that having a Right means you are entitled to have it given to you
Why do people confuse the first amendment's prohibition against the government limiting free expression with somehow mandating that private people and/or the companies they form being obliged to provide a platform for everything that everyone wants to say? The first amendment isn't about forcing a guy with a printing press to do what you say, it's about preventing the government from stopping you and the guy who owns the printing press from doing what you like on whatever terms you arrange between the two of you. Same thing goes with the guy who owns the DSL line you're using, or the WiFi hotspot and the network it's wired up to. And just like the printing press, if you don't like the terms of use, build your own or shop around.
Why? Because the Internet was created by "the government", is regulated by "the government", and subsidized by "the government". The lines that carry Internet traffic are run on public ("government"-owned) land using right of ways granted by "the government". Wireless carriers are granted licenses to use public airwaves, and must provide a public service to do so (not just rake in money). At the local level, most of the carriers are monopolies granted by "the government". These monopolies are free from having to worry about competition because "the government" has agreed to lock out anyone else from access to these same right-of-ways.
THAT'S why it's a First Amendment issue. You want to be free of government rules? Get off the government tit. The government has provided a source of huge income to these companies. If they don't like "the terms of use" associated with being a government-subsidized monopoly, they are free to "build their own" Internet and run the lines over their own land. The wireless carriers can just "build their own" airwaves, I guess.
Then the solution is that there needs to be some form of ammendment or additional legislation that prohibits anyone from limiting free expression on the internet along those 4 guidelines by the FCC*.
Much in the same way I as a person or private company cannot park my vehicle in an intersection to filter or deter traffic through a certain point - neither should any Internet Service Provider have the ability to discriminate against their traffic if the people are paying for the service. Or if they want that a
why change it?
another way for greedy businesses to further suck money out of their customers
I think you just asked and answered your own question.
It's working just fine the way it is, so why change it?
So you like the way Comcast and other ISP's have the ability to filter traffic with impunity? Because that is basically whats happening.
None of the network neutrality efforts really are focused on increasing competition. I have no doubt that that is why a lot of libertarians and conservatives see this as a naked power grab, rather than as a misguided effort to protect the status quo. They see an effort focused almost entirely on telling businesses what they can do, rather than one that is simultaneously taking a chainsaw to local, state and federal laws that impede competition.
One of the arguments I've heard against abolishing local and sta
... free speech was impossible before the internet?
Seriously, what's wrong with a little bit of capitalism and money changing hands to give preferential treatment to companies willing to pay for it?
Let's say that I have a 10 Mb Comcast connection. Under net neutrality, I can use that bandwidth however I want. There's no QOS, so maybe my Netflix streaming stutters a bit or the resolution drops here and there. Now suppose Comcast enters into an agreement with Netflix (yes, they're arch enemies; this is just an example) whereby Netflix pays Comcast to reserve
So basically, you want net neutrality only when it's beneficial to you.
What if you were accessing one of Netflix's competitors?
Read the PDF, it explains it well.
Ahhh young padawan, you have much to learn.
What if you want to watch Hulu? Stuttering.
Or, the more likely scenario, what if Comcast launches a web-based video on demand service, and that gets the 4Mbit priority whereas Netflix is always relegated to stuttering speeds?
This is the real danger and it's already starting to happen. The large ISPs which have an effective oligarchy on the US market can reduce the internet to essentially a set of "preferred" sites by prioritizing the traffic, not based on load bala
The ACLU report addresses the pro-net-neutrality arguments. The other side of the coin is the revenue requirements of the ISPs and their business models. Nobody can fairly judge this issue without consideration of both sides.
A few months ago, I got a Droid phone. I also downloaded a tether app (forbidden by Verizon's non-net-neutral terms) but I got it anyhow. I used them to catch up on a few TV programs I like (I don't have access to regular TV). I think I watched for 5 hours. It worked great and I
The ACLU report addresses the pro-net-neutrality arguments. The other side of the coin is the revenue requirements of the ISPs and their business models. Nobody can fairly judge this issue without consideration of both sides.
There's a constitutional protection of free speech. There is no constitutional protection of corporate profits. Are you suggesting that corporate profits should trump constitutional protections, because if that's true then Congress, the President, and the Supreme Court should close up shop and just let a bunch of guys on Wall Street run the country.
Are there any win-win scenarios that maintain net-neutrality and also provide the vast amount of capital needed for wireless infrastructure? I don't see them.
That argument would hold water if AT&T and the other ISPs weren't immensely profitable already. So option 4 is: impose net neutrality, prices remain at or ne
It seems like the stated goals of Net Neutrality are to impose lots and lots of regulations about what you can and can't do
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Verena Nichols, 95
Verena M. Nichols, 95, of rural Wapakoneta, died at 2:33 p.m. Sunday, July 3, 2011, at Wapakoneta Manor.
She was born Jan. 20, 1916, in Stratford, Ontario, Canada, the daughter of Saarah (Wilhelm) and Gideon P. Steiner, who preceded her in death. On April 25, 1948, she married Walter F. Nichols, and he died March 30, 1977.
Surviving are a son, William (Margie) Nichols of Bellefontaine; a daughter, Anna Mary (Jerry) LaMarr, of Wapakoneta; seven grandchildren, Greg (Lynn) Nichols, Matt (Jennifer) Nichols, Justin(Carolee) Nichols, Dustin (Michell) Nichols, Chris (Sara) LaMarr, Ryan (Erin) LaMarr, and Kelli LaMarr; 16 great grandchildren; two sisters, Ruth Slusser of Celina, Muriel Wisely of Arcadia; and a sister-in-law, Dorothy Steiner of Bluffton.
She was preceded in death by three brothers, Gideon Steiner, Woodrow Steiner, and Frank Steiner, and a sister, Hilda Reichenbach.
She was the oldest of seven children. She had fond memories of being from a large family and kept close relationships with her siblings all her life. A 1934 graduate of Bluffton High School and as a young adult, she was a housekeeper and maid for several families in Lima, and later working for the Meter Works, Bluffton. A farmwife and homemaker, family had always been the center of her life, and they have many memories of the delicious meals she could put together in a moment's notice. She always delighted friends, guests, and grandchildren with her wonderful cookies.
She was a member of Mount Tabor United Methodist Church in Clay Township for 57 years. She taught Sunday school, Bible school, and was a youth leader and a member of the Women's Christian Society. She was a member of the Farm Council and Gideons International. She was a servant at heart and considered the Lord to be the stabilizing force in her life.
Services are at 10:30 a.m. Thursday at the Bayliff & Eley Funeral Home in Wapakoneta, with the Rev. Michael Westbay officiating. Burial will follow in the Mt. Tabor Cemetery in Clay Township.
Friends may call from 4 to 8 p.m. Wednesday and 9:30 to 10:30 a.m. Thursday at the funeral home. Memorial contributions may be directed to the church or Gideons International.
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The only difference between this and the West, is that they didn't pair their images well, and they used a fade instead of a white border.
See eg:
http://cdn1.independent.ie/migration_catalog/article25420213.ece/ALTERNATES/h342/beaa8677-48de-4d 88-bacf-4a55a4ec85e4.jpg
http://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/images/uploadedfiles/editorial/pictures/201 3/03/25/horti1.jpg
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inset, noun: a small picture or map inserted within the border of a larger one.
See the AC reply to my comment above.
"Probably the editor wants to have a photo that showing the woman's face, but the original can only show her back, so they do a photo merge to fulfill the need."
It's no more fake than there being a magic floating road in the sky in this image. It's just been done with a fade, not a border.
I'm as happy to rip on countries for faking photos as the next person, but this is absurd. Anyone with eyes can tell this isn't photoshopped to 'fake' it, it's photoshopped out of logistical necessity.
Two pictures were clearly taken on the same balcony (you can see the same balcony railing in both parts of the picture, with it's distinctive double-vertical posts), but one was taken looking to the left, and one looking to the right.
The picture of the old lady was poorly inserted as an 'inset' of sorts, presumably because the balcony is so small they couldn't fit all five in the same shot.
You can judge the size of the balcony by assuming that the men are looking down at the woman's face (edited out of the 'large' photo), which appears to be no more than a metre in front of them. Adjusting for the distance between her face and her knees while sitting, they must be practically standing on her toes.
It's a small balcony, and someone just merged two pictures because they couldn't fit everyone in one picture.
Not everything you see is sinister.
Twitter has some advantages, but also some significant drawbacks.
To use a print analogy (oh boy, this will be dangerous), Twitter is to Reader as a newspaper's comment pages are to the news pages. Sure, the comments can point you to interesting things, and add both context and a finger on the collective pulse, but if you want to get to the heart of it, you need to read the original source.
Reader is a good way to get the content, and then follow up with the comments etc. if necessary.
Personally, I mostly skim headlines through Reader, expanding and reading articles that catch my interest. I can't stand using FB or Twitter as news sources, because there's too much other crap intertwined with news. Plus, it requires following all the sources, and putting up with everything they do that isn't news.
This means that sometimes there's just far too much noise. Setting aside the sources that use their twitter for both news dissemination, as well as other things like competitions etc, sometimes the volume of news alone from their social accounts is too much. For a while, I followed @glynmoody on twitter, because I liked his stuff on Techdirt. And then my feed became 90% Glyn.
Which is not to say it was bad content - it was just that I was drowning in the volume of it. So I stopped following Glyn, and suddenly Twitter was usable as a social tool again. (I still feel bad about this Glyn - sorry).
To me, Google Reader is my morning newspaper, and I'm yet to find anything that does as good a job of getting me the news.


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Scripting language bundle is, well, a bundle that offers a language for StepTalk. The bundle provides mechanisms for understanding the language and interpreting it.
Core of a language bundle is a scripting engine. Each language should have its own engine that executes scripts. The engine should take into account a context, where the script will be executed, and the script itself. After the execution, the engine should provide some feedback, for example a result object or it should throw an exception when something went wrong.
Few steps for creating a custom language bundle:
- take a language template from StepTalk sources or create one of your own
- create your own language engine as a subclass of the STEngine
- implement method executeCode:inEnvironment:
- provide an information list about the bundle
Language Template
Template for a language bundle can be found here.
Header file for a custom language should look like this:
#import <StepTalk/STEngine.h> @interface MyLanguageEngine:STEngine { /* ... */ } @end
And the implementation:
#import "MyLanguageEngine.h"
@implementation MyLanguageEngine - (id) executeCode:(NSString *)sourceCode inEnvironment:(STEnvironment *)env { id retval = nil; /* execute the code sourceCode using environment env */ /* retval = return value from the interpreter; */ return retval; } @end
You may want to use [environment objectDictionary] to get all environment's named objects.
To translate a selector (for example a symbolic selector) you can use [environment translateSelector:aString forReceiver:anObject] which returns a NSString containing translated selector or nil if the selector should not be sent (because it should be fobidden by the environment). Moreover you should use this method if you want to use restrictions of selectors of the scripting envornment. See STEnvironment and STEnvironmentDescription for more information.
If your language can execute scripts from files, you may specify the file type in the MyLanguageInfo.plist. Then script manager and StepTalk tools can execute files with an appropriate language engine.
{ /* Array of file types of your language scripts */ STFileTypes = ( "mylang" ); }


text: I have 3 L7's "12" in a 96 Impala with a memphis mojo amp. I had a custom Ported bandpass box in the trunk where they tunneled a port into my back dash. Now I know that kind of setup is what works best in those cars, but my box cracked so I'm having it rebuilt. Do you guys have any suggestions on what gets the best sound and SPL with that setup? What I had before sounded it great until it cracked. Oh yeah when the installer took out my box I noticed the subs were firing down whats the reason for that?