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"Customers who are unable to lower the armrests (the definitive boundary between seats) and/or who compromise any portion of adjacent seating should proactively book the number of seats needed."
October 18, 2006
Are you one of those passengers who needs "spillover space"?
47 comments:
(the other kev)
Which is why I always insist on a aisle seat. Even if you've got the Pillsbury Doughboy sitting on the other side, at least you can breathe.
I feel for people whose weight problems are the result of some glandular condition, but that doesn't mean they should be given leave to crush anyone unfortunate enough to sit next to them. If you're using up limited space, you should have to pay for your volume, just like freight does.
- me said...
I once was nice enough to let a couple sit next to each other and moved seats. I should have checked where the wife was sitting. Spillover space??? I lost about 80 percent of my seat.
- Ron said...
So they have the nerve to pack as many seats as possible in a plane and THEN ding you if you don't fit in their ridiculous seating? I don't get the sense that they are trying to maximize seat seat to accomdate ever larger Americans, or even just have a section with larger seating? (no, not "First Class!") This is a clever cost model that perhaps we should apply everwhere!
- Jim said...
Of course the fair thing for the airlines to do would be to stop criticizing or penalizing folks for their size and start charging passengers, as they now do baggage, based on girth and weight in combination with the girth and weight of their baggage. If air travel were deregulated, one would also sensibly charge more for persons with high income and family complications since, as we learned in the aftermath of the WTC collapse, the life of a insurance thief with wife, house, kids (ze voll katastrophe, as Zorba said) is worth so much more in Amerika.
- MadisonMan said...
I don't need horizontal spillover space, but sometimes I could use vertical spillover space, because of leg length issues. Aisle seats are good for this, although one must be careful not to trip people.
- tiggeril said...
Wasn't this last year's controversy?
- Mortimer Brezny said...
Okay, not to rag on compulsive-cake-eaters, but I expect the whole of my seat and its attendant space. Not only do these fat bastards take up more space than they should, but they act as if you've no right to complain, because you aren't using the extra space they're spilling over into.
Thing is, you are using it. It's your barrier of comfort. Not only are they invading your comfort zone, they refuse to acknowledge they're invading your comfort zone, all but stealing it from you, driving down the value of your ticket and driving up the value of theirs. They're free-riding!
Worst of all, in some cases, these villains are actually touching you, resting their wings of flab on your body, as if paying for an airline seat entitles them to molest anyone they please with their adipose tissue. It's just offensive. I certainly don't think my airline ticket entitles me to grab any breast that happens to be attached to the passsenger in the seat beside me. And if you turn to them and ask for them to stop touching you, they get offended, because, get this, they can't do anything about it. How about jogging cross-country instead of taking Delta?
- mcg said...
One thing about the Southwest policy that should be mentioned is that they will refund the cost of the additional seat if the plane isn't full. On balance I think their policy is pretty good. I've flown Southwest recently, for the first time in many years, and I don't find their seats packed too close together compared to other airlines.
- mcg said...
OK, here's a strategy. Have the airlines do some statistical analysis and allocate a certain amount of coach space to what might ungraciously be called the "fat seats". Make them 50% larger than the other seats, but charge, say, only 30% more for them. Then give people a choice: pay for the larger seat in advance, or risk getting bumped off the flight or being forced to pay for a second seat if you spill over.
I know some folks will whine and moan about the 30% surcharge for the larger seats. But the real challenge here will be keeping skinny people out of those seats. I can tell you right now I'd pay 30% for one of those seats right now. For a system like this to work that challenge would have to be worked out.
- JorgXMcKie said...
Look, I'm a big guy -- six feet and too far north of 200 pounds [well, now down to about 225] and I fit into Southwestern seats without infringing on the space of my neighbors. I don't know if I'd want a 6+ hour flight on Southwestern, but the 2-3 hour flights I take aren't a problem for me, and I don't think for seatmates. I try to stay to my space.
OTOH, there are a certain group of aggressively large passengers who appear to delight in trying to become offended when called on their invasion of the space of others.
If you take up more than one seat, you should buy more than one seat. Either you fit or you don't. Pretty simple, really.
- mcg said...
OK, here's an idea. Let anyone who wants to pay the 30% pay it---and heck, if the entire planeload pays the 30% in advance, so be it. But when it is time to load the plane, the larger seats are given first to those who actually need them (and who have paid). If there are extras, those go on a first-reserved basis. Those who don't get the seat are refunded the 30% surcharge.
- Cedarford said...
I'm sensitive that society needs to bash someone and the last bastions of having rights of open, public contempt we can display are for smokers, fat people, and clear non-PC thinkers.
We should cherish those rights.
Seriously, the airlines do need some regulation so that they do not continue to make air travel growingly more cramped and miserable for travellers (ergonomic standards are OK elsewhere - airlines should adopt - when an average size man like myself has legs bunched up and cramped - Federal standards are needed..) and combine it with a little more freedom in charging fees to a small minority of passengers that cause direct additional costs..leaving Muslims out of it for now....grossly obese, handicapped, "special needs" demanding free extra seat space, 1st Class upgrades..or which incur additional Airline or airport service costs before or after the flight.
And bar the people showing up severely sick with a contangeous disease from normal fights if airport doctor judges them a threat to fellow passenger's health.
- Sarah said...
As a travel agent, I shudder at the thought of questions that would have to be asked of every traveler if airlines started dividing sections of the plane by body mass. I can't imagine how horrible this must be for Southwest's gate agents.
- LoafingOaf said...
JorgXMcKie said...
Look, I'm a big guy -- six feet and too far north of 200 pounds [well, now down to about 225] and I fit into Southwestern seats without infringing on the space of my neighbors.
I'm 6'4" and long flights can sometimes be painful. But I get an aclohol buzz going - that helps. :)
I fly as little as possible though (driving is much more pleasant, even when it takes longer), and I often wonder if tall people who have to fly regularly for their jobs start to develop medical problems! They should have some seats with a little extra room for tall and/or fat people. People are getting taller and fatter while airplane seats get smaller.
It really would only take a little extra room for me to be a happy camper. But if they're gonna charge me for it...I guess I'd rather suffer!
On my last flight they gave me a bulkhead aisle seat that let me stretch out my legs more and that was cool. Except a fat guy next to me couldn't put the armrest down and he left a sweat spot on my pants! Yuck. But hey, he was a nice guy and it's not his fault they make seats unreasonably small. I try and get flights at unpopular times in the hopes I'll get a whole row to myself.
- Simon said...
"[T]he airlines do need some regulation so that they do not continue to make air travel growingly more cramped and miserable for travellers"
I'd be interested to see some evidence that airlines and/or airliner manufacturers have been actively seeking to make air travel "more cramped and miserable," since the natural trend would seem to be quite the opposite. "Miserable" is a fairly elastic concept, and at face value, it seems highly improbable that airlines have done anything to increase misery, "cramped" should be a fairly objective, measurable standard, and I know you have data on that which you can cite.
- mcg said...
Agreed, I think you'd have to have some pretty solid evidence before you start screaming "regulation!" Indeed, market forces alone resulted in American's "More Room" campaign of a few years back, and United's Economy Plus program. Of course, those same market forces have forced American to scrap the More Room program, and you have to pay more money to get the Economy Plus seats, so there you go.
I for one find the industry standard seat pitch to be quite tolerable for a family vacation. It helps that my daughter is still tiny of course, but since I don't see her getting obese (knock on wood) I suspect our comfort level won't change as she grows. And at 6' even and 185 I'm not exactly a midget.
- Brent said...
I'm 6'3" and 196 lbs (that's below the insurance tables for you shorter nitwits)
Hey all you thin and small:
Blame the airline, not anyone else on it.
Where do you get off? Every person I've met in my life that makes snide, under-their-breath remarks about fat people is also a bigot on race, ethnicity, religion. Every. Last. One. It eventually pours out of them, like ketchup in a pouch that's much too tiny for their little minds to encase.
In 50 years there have been no exceptions to the above rule.
I watched a woman on a flight from New York non-stop to LA ask very loudly if she could be moved because the teenager next to her was too fat and taking up the seat she paid for. They gave her the only open seat by the back bathroom. I felt like going up to her and offering to pay for her seat if she would take her prejudiced and thoughtless ass off this flight.
Now we want the prejudiced in our society to help determine our rules?
- GPE said...
Southwest Airlines hasn't made it clear at all. Allow me to submit my amendments...
Passengers whose spillage includes spittle from spirited expressions of opinion or drool from having either arrived at or become sloshed on the flight shall be required to purchase the upgrade ticket which includes the Bio-Seal® body isolation bag.
Passengers whose spillage includes children's toys and/or Zip-Lock® bags of soggy goldfish crackers shall be required to purchase the upgrade ticket which includes the Mommy-Mavin® Velcro® vest and keep all such family items securely attached to their person.
- Maxine Weiss said...
'The Walls of Jericho'....anyone remember that old movie "It Happened One Night" (1942?) when Clark Gable, and what's-her-name....were forced to share a room, so they put up a sheet as a dividing line.
Mason-Dixon Line.
I say just buy an extra seat...but then that kind of defeats the purpose of coach and "economy".
Flying is not a necessity, nor a right.
I'm still not convinced that an airline is considered 'public transportation' along the lines of the subway or bus.
Peace, Maxine
- Mortimer Brezny said...
Every person I've met in my life that makes snide, under-their-breath remarks about fat people is also a bigot on race, ethnicity, religion.
That is not true. I love my wife and my wife is a Chinese Muslim who was raised in Bulgaria. But she's not fat, and thank Allah for that!
- Shanna said...
If you take up more than one seat, you should buy more than one seat. Either you fit or you don't. Pretty simple, really.
I think the seats are too small. Even tiny thin short people are barely comfortable! And I don't think all plane or airlines have the same seat size. You can get on one plane and it is one size and the next one it is another!
Yes, if someone is 500-600 pounds and really does take up two seats, they should buy an extra seat. But the majority of these "spillover" problems are due to the tiny, tiny spaces the airlines leave you.
- Cedarford said...
Simon - If you dispute the fact that airlines added more seats into the same passenger space starting in the early 90s, surely you can look up the info that proves otherwise.
That's the beauty of Google, Simon! And pretty much an end to the demand of opponents to furnish information via citations that you in past years could reasonably claim to not have access to. Now you can look it up yourself - no need to demand others be your research assistants.
Via "customer capacity upgrade packages, airlines added 1-2 rows of seating, reducing leg space.
This issue, the affected aircraft, the loss of legspace from 2-5" - has been extensively covered in news and in business travel publications...Along with other troubling areas like fast turnarounds caussing a marked decline in cabin cleanliness.
And airlines not inclined, have had to follow the herd because Dereg means you must not let a competitor get ahead..and the only way to stop that competive pressure to reach a bottom level in service and comfort is to have Federal standards for matters like seat size, legroom.
- mcg said...
Every person I've met in my life that makes snide, under-their-breath remarks about fat people is also a bigot on race, ethnicity, religion.
Sounds like you need to get out more.
- J said...
"Indeed, market forces alone resulted in American's "More Room" campaign of a few years back, and United's Economy Plus program. Of course, those same market forces have forced American to scrap the More Room program, and you have to pay more money to get the Economy Plus seats, so there you go"
If you're concerned, take a look at http://www.seatguru.com/ before you book, which can give you specifics about seat size on different airlines (I am not affiliated with SeatGuru). For seat pitch (the space between rows), there's not a lot you can do. While there are a handful of exceptions (who are generally in 1st/business class), airline customers have demonstrated repeatedly and emphatically not only that they will not pay more for greater seat pitch in coach, but that they will punish carriers who offer it - add Western, TWA, and Continental to mcg's list.
- mcg said...
But the majority of these "spillover" problems are due to the tiny, tiny spaces the airlines leave you.
This simply is not the case, if you're talking about the way Southwest defines it. The vast majority of people do not spill over in that sense. They're not talking about the fight over the armrests.
- chuck b. said...
I need spillover space. And I'm lean.
I like a lot of room. My boyfriend is really good at scoring us the frequent flier miles and first class upgrades so we always fly first class. (I only fly once or twice a year.) I'm fine in first class, but coach is a horror show. I haven't dealt with it in a good five years.
- Bruce Hayden said...
In the last 12 years or so, I probably have over 500 flights under me, and have run into the seriously overlapping person maybe a dozen times. But I have come close quite a few times - when I was Premier Exec with United, I would invariably sit up in the Economy Plus section, with the other frequent flyers and we would sometimes get three large guys into the three seats. Two isn't a problem, but three is. We were elbow to elbow all the way.
I have never run into the problem with SW, most likely because you get to pick your seat when you board, and I typically sit in the 2nd to last row on the isle, and the middle there only gets filled when the plane is absolutely full. (I sit back there to talk to the flight attendants and thus get extra pop and munchies).
I noticed the SW policy awhile ago, and wondered then how they ever enforced it. At one time, they might have enforced it at the ticket counter when you get your boarding pass. But now, you can get them on-line up to 24 hours in advance (and over half of the passengers seem to do that), or you can get them at one of the automated kiosks. Indeed, at DIA last week, SW had two attendants at their counter: one was handling the luggage from about eight kiosks, and the other was handling everything else. In Phoenix and Las Vegas, they have kiosks up by the security checkpoints, with absolutely no staff oversight.
Thus, SW can't realistically enforce this policy prior to boarding. And at that time, they are invariably in a hurry to keep up their on-time departure standards (and they really are better than the other big carriers there). If the plane isn't full, then BFD if someone takes up more than one seat. So, it is most likely only when they get onto a fairly full plane and sit down that SW is likely to figure out that someone exceeds their standards in width. But by then, it is likely too late to do anything about it. After all, all that a person needs to do then would be to make a fuss and refuse to vacate. With over a hundred others on the plane in a hurry to get to their destinations, etc., there would be a lot of pressure on SW to back down.
Of course, this is all conjecture, so if anyone has actual experience with SW implementing this policy, I would be interested.
- altoids1306 said...
Oooh...bash the fat man time! I want to play too.
The difference between overweight and tall is pretty simple. Tall people cannot become shorter, their genes dictate bone length. The obese can always become thinner. It's not like fat people are magically immune to the laws of thermodynamics.
- P. Froward said...
Cedarford said...
the airlines do need some regulation so that they do not continue to make air travel growingly more cramped and miserable for travellers (ergonomic standards are OK elsewhere - airlines should adopt - when an average size man like myself has legs bunched up and cramped - Federal standards are needed..)
You're nuts.
Here's how markets work: If people want something, and are willing to pay enough for a vendor to turn a profit providing it, somebody will sell it to them. If no vendor can turn a profit on a good or service, you can force them to provide it, but only until they run out of money. If you subsidize them, then taxpayers who don't fly are subsidizing your vacations. That, of course, is precisely what you're demanding: You're middle class, no doubt, and you want poor people taxed to pay for your treats.
Did somebody mention PBS?
You think your desires are a law of nature, and you have no better than a child's grasp of what would actually be involved in satisfying them. You don't know and you don't care. A giant mouth with no brain.
Hey, I've got the answer! If airlines burned less fuel per mile, flights would be cheaper! So we can just pass a law changing pi to a more convenient value.
We'll call it the Canute-Cedarford Act.
- P. Froward said...
P.S. That bit about pi? It's because the Earth is a BIG ROUND SPHERE. No, really, it is, I swear! But you can pass a law changing it to a dodecafuckinghedron if you find spheres too confusing.
- gj said...
In the early 1990's on a United non-stop flight from Boston to San Jose I was seated next to a spillover passenger. She came onto the flight standby, just before it took off.
She was dressed like a bag lady--- big heavy winter coat, even though it was a warm May day, and she left the coat on when she sat down, which increased the spillover effect. She was sort of talking to herself and seemed very nervous. After she got more or less settled, she started arranging and rearranging a bunch of canvas bags at her feet.
As soon as the flight took off, when the plane was still in sharp ascent, she got out of her seat and tried to go to the bathroom. Needless to say, the flight attendent sent her right back.
It was shortly after that that I discovered the reason for all the strangeness. She pulled a dog out of her coat, and placed it in one of the bags.
Or at least I thought that explained all the strangeness. But it turned out it was just the start. Over the next ten minutes, she pulled out an additional four dogs that she had hidden away in pockets that she'd sewn into her coat the night before.
The dogs were pretty well tranquilized and didn't cause any trouble. The flight attendents turned a blind eye because, well, no passengers were complaining and they certainly didn't want to divert the flight to Chicago to have the woman arrested.
She explained to me that she was going to San Jose for two weeks, and it was too expensive to check the dogs ($125 each). She had checked her cat, though.
I never found out how the return trip worked out for her.
- Cedarford said...
P Froward - Here's how markets work: If people want something, and are willing to pay enough for a vendor to turn a profit providing it, somebody will sell it to them. If no vendor can turn a profit on a good or service, you can force them to provide it, but only until they run out of money. If you subsidize them, then taxpayers who don't fly are subsidizing your vacations. That, of course, is precisely what you're demanding: You're middle class, no doubt, and you want poor people taxed to pay for your treats.
You write like some dumb young Ayn Rand acolyte in how the "magic of the markets" obviates the need for standards.
Even they freest of societies - always recognizes the need for standards and codes - a point "below which you will not go" regulating industry, housing..to prevent both the profit motive or competive race to the bottom from endangering or greating inconveniencing the population. With collapsing buildings, firetrap buildings, contaminated or adulturated foods and beverages, blowing up steamships, it being cheaper to sail without those pesky lifeboats taking up space, exploding Pintos, baby's cloths that burn readily, highway bridges done by the cheapest bidder that catastrophically fail later.
The wisdom of standards and codes is embraced by nearly every profession to ensure a minimum of quality of production or service below which that cannot go despite market forces of profit pressure or consumer demand..
I merely said that minimum levels of ergonomic design mandated in other industries should include airlines.
For that I get treated to some libertarian punk logic from P Froward. In typically stupid language that ignores that most free market nations that do best are those with strict standards of quality, design robustness, safety margins, and minimum quality of services standards, he bloviates:
You think your desires are a law of nature, and you have no better than a child's grasp of what would actually be involved in satisfying them. You don't know and you don't care. A giant mouth with no brain.
Get back to me when you finally put down your dog-eared copies of Friedman and Hayek and actually have to work for a living in a profession that has high codes and standards, goofy boy..On second thought, when you do get into the workforce and likely work in a field that is not a profession and lacks standards other than showing up on time and avoiding drugs...treat your job as if you are obligated to have high standards...you'll go farther that way. Even become a store manager.
Worth repeating, because inanity becomes comical in repitition:
P Froward If you subsidize them, then taxpayers who don't fly are subsidizing your vacations. That, of course, is precisely what you're demanding: You're middle class, no doubt, and you want poor people taxed to pay for your treats.
Standards and codes imply no subsidy. To say they do and the cost is born by non-users whenever a building, say, must comply with earthquake standards or a bridge is designed to 60 ton capacity even though many taxpayers will not use the bridge reflects your ignorance of infrastructure economics and professional standards. They are simply the minimum all competitors must meet to enter the business, and stay in the business.
Standards are added and relaxed all the time, in all areas of the economy. At times, yes, the wisdom of some or the relaxing of some is questionable - but their value is proven in structuring free markets to be responsible and not just let unrestrained market forces endanger society, discriminate against the civil rights of it's minorities, jeopardize the environment or other areas not showing in the bottom line, or become a construct that inconveniences society more than it benefits it.
As for "probably being middle class" - great projection. As for the poor paying in taxes for the middle class - when you get out of your middling-level college - and enter the workforce = you will see it is the other way around.
- LoafingOaf said...
You think your desires are a law of nature, and you have no better than a child's grasp of what would actually be involved in satisfying them. You don't know and you don't care. A giant mouth with no brain.
Hey, I've got the answer! If airlines burned less fuel per mile, flights would be cheaper! So we can just pass a law changing pi to a more convenient value.
Wow, you really get set off when someone merely thinks an FAA regulation about seat design should be considered since the airlines treat human beings like cattle.
I'm not saying I support another regulation, but why is someone "nuts", "a child," and "a giant mouth with no brain" if they think it's something to look into? There's all kinds of regulations on aircrafts.
I can live with it, but the fact is, I get crammed in a seat that my legs do not fit. I doubt the world would end if the FAA did something about that. And I doubt I'd call domestic air travel a free market when the government won't allow foreign competition. It just so happens that foreign airlines have much more comfortable airplanes; perhaps they could give me a choice if they were allowed.
- Finn Kristiansen said...
Oh boy. These comments! I must speak for the, ahem, "big boned."
I last flew from Phoenix to Long Island in 2001. I could barely fit in the seat, and the seatbelt would not fit without cutting into my waist. Had we hit extreme turbulence my ass would have been all over the ceiling with people pointing up saying, "Look at the moon."
I made sure I squished myself to one side in order to maintain some space and NOT spill over. I was near the window, and sat in fear and horror when a late passenger, heavier than me, entered the plane and the only seat left to him was between two people (who knew each other but did not care to slide together in order to talk around him with annoyed looks on their pinched little faces (see, us fat people can characature too)).
It's easy to look at heavy people and say they should just get a grip and lose weight. They should, but like any addiction, gluttony is a hard master. Suggesting that fat people either "just lose weight" or walk across America instead of fly, is dismissive in the most dimwitted fashion.
I would be willing to pay an extra 30% or so no problem for an extra seat (or a wider seat), and it would not be difficult (based on the models some have suggested above) for airlines to institute such a plan.
And let's be real. The government can and should mandate that the airlines provide access to all passengers. Why? Because airlines are nothing like a free market or a good example of capitalism at its best. The industry is already heavy regulated for safety, and has not made a dime in it's entire history, and frequently relies on the Feds to bail it out of its own stupidity or misery.
So the government mandating that extra seats be set aside for an additional fee is not in the least bit an onerous regulation in a business where those in charge have yet to figure out how to pull out profit anyway.
Southwest excepted.
- Shanna said...
frequently relies on the Feds to bail it out of its own stupidity or misery.
Exactly. The airline industry hasn't been "free market" for years, if ever. How many bailouts have they gotten?
Southwest is a different breed, but I don't fly them much so I can't comment.
- J said...
"It just so happens that foreign airlines have much more comfortable airplanes; perhaps they could give me a choice if they were allowed."
Some do and some don't... Are you talking about state owned or protected international operations, or internal domestic stuff? Airlines like Singapore or Lufthansa run a wonderful operation, but remove the restrictions on capacity and, if applicable, fourth freedom rights, and US airlines would eat them alive. A competitive domestic operation run by them wouldn't be distinguishable from what we have now. On the other hand, with a 30 inch seat pitch and $10 charge for checking a bag, Ryanair makes Southwest look like, well, Singapore by comparison. And that business model is coming to the US, even if Ryanair itself isn't. Be careful what you wish for.
- Freeman Hunt said...
I like cheap fares. I don't care if I'm cramped as long as the fare is cheap. I think a lot of people probably feel the same way, and so, the seat space remains small.
- Mike said...
P. Forward said "...poor people taxed to pay for your treats."
Poor people don't pay income taxes in this country.
- MadisonMan said...
Mike, only you said income tax. Poor people are most definitely taxed in this country.
- Mike said...
Yes, M.M. but the subsidies which he refers to would come from income taxes. Though, at the current time, it is (unfortunately) true that Social Security tax is used to subsidize the general budget, in general, it is not the poor who pay for federal subsidies.
- Balfegor said...
You know what I want? Forget larger seats, and obesity segregation. I want sleeper planes. More red-eye flights, but with bunks or something, not those chairs that barely recline.
And even if we didn't have sleeper planes, I'd like more red-eye flights in general. Just on principle. Because practically all I ever take are red-eyes, and finding that airlines don't have flights departing at 3AM is annoying.
- Dave said...
You know what I want?
A requirement that passengers under the age of 5 are bound and gagged for the duration of the flight. Else, put them and their parents on the wings.
- WhatsAPundit said...
I'm a fat man who has logged about half a million miles over the last four years. I fit in economy seats, but it's a tight fit. My strategy is to get a window seat and put as much of myself into the window well as possible.
No one has ever complained of "spillover", although I once had to move to a different seat because my leg kept brushing and pushing in the recline button.
Having said that, I'd still have problems if I were back at my fencing weight, because I had problems then too! 46" chest, 28" waist, 29" inseam.
With the right beard I could have played Gimli's stunt double without any need for special effects.
For some people, short of cracking clavicles/scapulas, wide is not a function of diet, let alone of choice. Please make a note of it, and be aware that we too are just trying to get from point A to point B while receiving and producing as little discomfort as possible.
- Leland said...
"Spillover space" charge seems like a sin tax to me. I think it is certainly fine for the airline to apply it, so long as I can choose another airline to fly that doesn't apply it. I would support it more if the sin tax included other annoyances, like the drunk passenger, whose fear of flying makes me want to join the line on "Airplane!". If a passenger falls asleep and think that means it is fine to rest their head on my shoulder, does that count as spillover? What if they are just snoring and drooling?
Now for Froward... I don't care what you think you know about economics, because you don't have a clue about the airline industry. I now direct you to the Federal Aviation Regulations, and kindly point you to Part 25, Section 25 which covers Airworthiness Standards for Transport Category Aircraft. This should disabuse you of any notion that the airlines have unregulated standards. You might note regulation Sec 25.785 i:
Each seat berth, and its supporting structure, must be designed for an occupant weight of 170 pounds, considering the maximum load factors, inertia forces, and reactions between the occupant, seat, and safety belt or harness, at each relevant flight and ground load condition
For people over 170 lbs, you are potentially less safe but still pay the same price, and with Southwest, maybe you'll pay more.
- mcg said...
Exactly. The airline industry hasn't been "free market" for years, if ever. How many bailouts have they gotten?
Two wrongs don't make a right. Those bailouts shouldn't happen.
Southwest is a different breed, but I don't fly them much so I can't comment.
Yes. Southwest actually makes money. Gasp! So why, again, are those bailouts, or additional onerous regulation, necessary again? Could it perhaps be instead that the business model of the traditional airlines is fatally flawed, and bailouts just prolong the suffering?
- Brent said...
How far a "free marketer" are you?
Should airports be run by the airlines and not municipalities?
Should there be no government regulation to the airline industry?
If so, how much?
Air Traffic Control - government or business?
- Barbie said...
I had a flight from HELL recently from Fort Lauderdale to Charlotte, NC. I had the middle seat in the bulkhead row and my traveling companion was in the aisle seat. I was beginning to think we scored an extra seat, then I heard a voice say, excuse me, that's my seat...I looked up to see a 400 - 450 lb man standing in the aisle by my friend. He was wearing a muscle shirt (NOT!) and "short shorts". He was also only about 5'8 and because of his weight, was huge.
I was shocked, but tried to be polite. He was barely able to get to his seat and was sitting atop the armrests. The stewardess came by and told him he would have to sit down in the seat. He said he would have to raise the armrest and get "cozy" with me. I firmly expressed that the armrest needed to stay "down" in place. I could already tell that was the only thing to keep me from being crushed. He was already protruding into my seat and I was pinned behind his shoulder. I asked him to lean forward and I was able to free my shoulder by turning sideways in my seat. He pushed himself down into the seat, which made the seat recline. He was protruding about ten inches into my seat, overflowing over the armrest. I was thankful the armrest was there to act as a "dam". The stewardess asked once that he put his seat upright. he asked if she'd like to come find the button for him. She then said she would bring him an extension for his seatbelt and he he just laughed and said "those don't work either." (No one ever asked him again and he was unrestrained the entire flight.)
I kept trying to flag down the stewardess before we left the gate and she was absolutely ignoring me. The man across the aisle from my friend finally stopped her and said I had a question. I told her we had a problem and would need an additional seat. She told me the plane was full. I had noticed an empty seat in first class, but she informed me it was taken. I asked her if she could do something about the problem, before we took off and she nearly whispered that she "wasn't allowed to" do anything. I asked her my options and she said that it was too late to do anything. I was turned entirely sideways, facing my friend in the aisle seat the entire time. I have back issues which were exaccerbated by this position.
I was trying to be nice and he was a nice person and all, but I wanted to ask him: "Were you NOT this big when you made your reservations?? How about when you left the house this morning???" I mean, if he was truly as "nice" as he seemed to be ~ wouldn't it be considerate to book two seats when you can't fit in one?
Half way thru the flight I feel my shirt being lifted up ~ I seriously was going to turn around and slap him and I realized he was asleep. As he slept, his huge belly had freed itself of the shirt which had riden up and exposed a HUGE, bare, hairy belly...which was now against MY bare skin,{YUCK!} because the said belly had pulled my shirt up so far that my bra was now exposed.
This was on U.S. Airways, but I have been told that virtually all airlines treat this in the same manner. If I would have made "a fuss", I would have been removed from the plane. Large bodied passengers cannot be "discriminated" against. This came shortly after a (thin) girl in a t-shirt and skirt was removed from another plane because she wasn't "dressed appropriately".Do the "large bodied" ones get to wear whatever fits them that morning? The only things that went my way that flight were that he was nice (and I was trying not to make it evident that I was miserable, because I would imagine he hears enough of that) and thank goodness he was a clean person.
That said, if it EVER happens again, I will say, "No, that's my husband's seat, he's in the restroom."


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Last Monday, Feb. 4, I had an accident with my bicycle on Southeast 47th Terrace. It was totally my fault. I was driving with something else on my mind, and my backpack got caught up in my front tire. It flipped my bike and bodyslammed me to the road.
I'd like to thank the people who checked on me. When it first happened, I thought I just got the wind knocked out of me. But when I stood up, I was very dizzy and eventually passed out. I regained consciousness, but passed out again. When I came to, a very nice lady let me know paramedics were on the way. I was checked out, and after clearing the cobwebs, I realized I was fine. But I'd really like to thank all those who were concerned enough to check on me. It means a lot to me that there is still compassion in this world, and especially in this community. I am very grateful. Thank you.
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The City of Omak is seeking sealed bids from interested parties to contract janitorial services for the Omak City Hall, Police Station, Fire Station, and Omak Library, for a five (5) year period of January 1, 2014 through December 31, 2018.
Bids will be inclusive of general janitorial services five days per week for the Omak Public Library; three days per week for the Omak City Hall and the Omak Police Department buildings; and once per week for the Omak Fire Hall offices, kitchen and restroom. Bidders are advised they will be bidding for an annual contract, to be increased each year by a CPI adjustment, as explained in the contract.
Bid packages are available at Omak City Hall, located at 2 North Ash, or can be mailed by contacting City Hall at 509-826-1170 or P.O. Box 72, Omak, WA 98841. Bidders must mark the envelopes as "City of Omak Janitorial Contract" in the lower left corner.
The City will accept sealed bids until 3:00 PM, Monday, October 28, 2013, at which time they will be opened and read aloud.
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Sometimes it feels that for some reason, some group of toy makers, somewhere have determined that girls can only play with pink toys. A new innovative toy is introduced and within one season, there's always a new "pink" version. Even great classic toys like Monopoly and Twister are now pink-a-fied. Perhaps it's my formative years in the 70s women's movement, but why must it be pink? Several years ago when scientific studies indicated that playing with building blocks developed important visual perception skills that helped kids achieve higher math scores — toy makers responded with building kits for girls (a good thing)–pink and lavender (unfortunately), and the themes: build a mall, a stable or a cottage (even more upsetting).
I have nothing against pink. Ok, as a kid I did. Much to the dismay of my mother, I really preferred the Hot Wheels tracks that my brothers played with to the dream dollhouse she bought me (that stood without a homemaker for most of my childhood). I have since apologized for not really getting into the whole "doll" thing either. My worst playdate — being sent to a house where the effusively pink bedroom was chockful of huggables and dolls — both sisters were very excited to play dolls. I never went back. They were well meaning, but it just wasn't my thing.
As a professional toy reviewer (and mother of two boys), I quickly saw that there was also a problem on the other side of the equation. Boys tend to get two types of presents: things that move and things to build- that's pretty much it. When we first started toyportfolio.com, a mother was surprised that I suggested a toy kitchen for her son. "Do you want him to grow up and feel comfortable in a kitchen?" I asked. This is where it starts. When my younger son and his friend took their dolls (yes, both my sons loved huggables and dolls) in their strollers to the park, an adult commented loud enough for everyone to hear "only in Greenwich Village". He then asked the boys (almost three years old) what they were doing. "We're playing daddys" they both chimed. It was one of my proudest parenting moments. They parked their "babies" and ran off to play on the climbing equipment.
Throughout the years we have kept track of what we call the GenderAgenda in Toyland. Our annual book has a gender-free list of toys and products that bend the gender agenda. We applaud toy kitchen makers like Step 2, Little Tikes and Small World Toys–that have broken away from the stereotypical pink kitchen.
So what can you do?
Buy building sets for your daughter – the more open-ended the better!
Buy a gender free ride-on (they also have the added advantage of being enjoyed by younger siblings no matter what their gender).
Buy your son some dishes and a toy kitchen. Your future daughter-in-law will love you for it.
Buy board games for both – playing games enforces not only reading, math and language skills- it's an important way of introducing negotiating skills – something we all need!
Since we didn't publish our book this year, I thought I'd share our GenderAgenda list with the caveat that with the exception of the Cat In The Hat Game and the Kidizoom Camera, we did not test any of these toys for lead.
ActiviTot Developmental Mat (Tiny Love)
Amazing Baby Sound Balls (Kids Preferred)
Cosmic Catch (Hasbro)
Go Baby Go Stride to Ride Lion (Fisher-Price)
Hyper Dash (Wild Planet)
Cat in the Hat! I Can Do That! (I Can Do That!)
Kidizoom Camera (VTech)
Kitchen Appliances (various makers)
Retro Rocket (Radio Flyer)
Trikke 5 (Trikke Tech)
Word Whammer Fridge Phonics (LeapFrog)
Ultimate Lego Duplo Set (Lego Systems)


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Submission + - Wine 1.2 released (winehq.org)
David Gerard writes: "Stuck with that one Windows app you can't get rid of? Rejoice — Wine 1.2 is officially released! Apart from running pretty much any Windows application on Unix better than 1.0 (from 2008), major new features include 64-bit support, bi-directional text and translation into thirty languages. And, of course, DirectX 9 is well-supported and DirectX 10 is getting better. Packages should hit the distros over the weekend, or you can get the source now."


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Saints sweep through first round in a hurry
TROUTDALE Mt. Hood CC made quick work of its first-round opponent during the Northwest championship tournament Thursday morning, sweeping past Everett in straight sets.
The teams traded points into the late stages of the third set, trapped in a tie eight times before Centennial High graduate Keely Siegel blasted a winner into the back row to put Mt. Hood ahead to stay 23-22.
The match ended a couple points later when Everetts setter attempted a crosscourt assist only to see the ball float across the net. Mt. Hoods Carrie Haguewood was quick off her feet to pound the ball down for a hill.
The Saints doubled up the Trojans in each of the first two sets,
The Saints (35-6) advance to face Lower Columbia (14-22) in the second round at 10 a.m. Friday. The Red Devils scored the only major upset of Day 1 with a four-set win over East Region runner-up Spokane.
Mt. Hood won all three head-to-head matches with Lower Columbia this season, but did drop two sets along the way.
With a win in the morning, the Saints would advance to likely face North champion Olympic in a third-round match at 6:30 p.m. Friday.
The double-elimination tournament continues through the weekend with the title match at 3 p.m. Sunday. Admission is $10 per adult or $5 for military, seniors and students. Ages 12-and-under are free.
Look for expanded coverage of the opening match in the Friday, Nov. 22, print edition.


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Students learn from working writer
Mark Conway a finalist in the poetry division of the Minnesota Book Awards
March 2, 2011
By Mike Killeen
No, Mark Conway won't assign his class to write an acceptance speech for him.
He could, of course. His book, Dreaming Man, Face Down (Dream Horse Press) is a finalist in the poetry division for the 23rd annual Minnesota Book Awards, which will be presented Saturday, April 16 at the Crowne Plaza Hotel, St. Paul.
After all, he's teaching a class in creative writing this semester at the College of Saint Benedict and Saint John's University. It certainly would be a creative task for the class, to pull together a speech that would thank all the right people with just the proper tone.
But Conway -- who doubles as director of the Literary Arts Institute at CSB -- is looking for something a little deeper, more profound from his class than a basic thank-you note.
"I love having the opportunity to teach. It's a chance for me to be engaged in the true life of the schools," said Conway, who graduated from SJU in 1974. "I was inspired by such legendary teachers as Steve Humphrey, S. Mary Anthony Wagner and Fr. Godfrey Diekmann, and came into contact with giants like S. Mariella Gable. We also had the chance to hear some of the most important writers of the day."
Like poet Galway Kinnell. One of the great contemporary poets in America, Kinnell visited SJU while Conway was a student.
"I was drawn to poetry, but had a difficult time finding poems that mattered to me, at least on a consistent basis," Conway said. "I'd run into one poem and say, 'Wow, this is great,' and then I'd read something else, and think, 'What is this about?' "
Then he saw Kinnell, and something clicked.
"Galway Kinnell gave an electrifying reading that changed everyone who was there. Part of what was so striking was his vocabulary, what he was describing," Conway said. "He's from New Hampshire, and he wrote about that specific landscape. Though more mountainous than Minnesota, the world he described was instantly recognizable to me. What surprised me was that his poetry was made out of these common nouns, like 'rocks' and 'trees' and 'porcupines.' "
Conway now seeks to recreate a similar literary experience for CSB and SJU students.
"When students have the chance to hear working writers, they suddenly see that the books they've held in their hands are much more than inanimate objects to be deciphered. They feel the presence of a real person and they realize that books are charged with true human concerns," Conway said. "Their relationship to writing and literature is changed forever. That's why I love my job - it's a chance to relive my own original encounter with writing, and to respond in kind."
That means sometimes having to draw out thoughts from the students.
"I notice that many students are terrified by having to look closely at their inner lives," he said. "The main thing I want is for them to have an authentic encounter with their true selves, and to see that is the stuff of which they can and must write, and that it's good enough."
Dreaming Man, Face Down has been described as a long letter to the dead. There's a narrative arc between two brothers - the younger brother writing about a charismatic older brother who leads a wild and interesting life, but is also self-destructive.
"It's constructed as a series of elegies. It's a reflection on an imagined death," Conway said. "I'm not synonymous with either of the two characters. They're fictional. But more often than not, I would really be more easily identified with the older brother, especially when he makes bad choices. So some of the time, the brother is doing things I didn't do, but could have - it's sort of like the road not taken. It's an interesting exercise to play out for one's self - what would have happened if I didn't get lucky, if some friend didn't help me out, or the discovery of a new passion carried me beyond what would have been harmful."
Dreaming Man, Face Down has already received one honor - the 2009 American Poetry Journal Book Prize. Conway's previous book of poetry, Any Holy City, was short-listed for the 2007 PEN/Joyce Osterweil Award for Poetry.
Despite his previous success, there's one thing Conway won't do at the April award ceremony.
"I'm not getting a tux," Conway said, laughing.


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Many obese patients with type 2 diabetes have a dangerous but treatable sleep condition called sleep apnea. Of 306 obese patients with diabetes who underwent a sleep study, 87 percent of them had sleep apnea but had never been previously diagnosed, according to a recent study published in the journal Diabetes Care,
This is a staggering number and suggests that both patients and doctors need to pay closer attention. Just imagine -- with more than 24 million people with type 2 diabetes, and most of them overweight or obese, there is a huge number of people who are undiagnosed and untreated for sleep apnea. Sleep apnea leads to a number of serious conditions including increased risk for heart attack, heart failure and even stroke.
In my experience, many people with diabetes don't even know they are at risk for sleep apnea, and have not been advised to have a sleep study to make the diagnosis. But the good news is that it is easily diagnosed with a sleep study and effectively treated with a special breathing machine at night called a continuous positive airway pressure (CPAP) machine. That may sound scary, but the newer models of breathing machines are portable, more comfortable and a lot quieter.
Another study from the U.K. found that more than half of all diabetic patients with sleep apnea have the serious form of eye disease called retinopathy, whereas less than one-third of diabetic patients without sleep apnea had retinopathy. So it seems that sleep apnea is linked to this serious but treatable eye condition as well.
These two studies on diabetics and sleep apnea hit close to home because one of my four sisters has sleep apnea -- and, yes, she is an obese type 2 diabetic.
I know she is checked regularly for retinopathy and to date has not developed the serious eye changes that need treatment. But many patients with diabetes fail to have their annual eye exam and thorough check of their retina.
In retrospect, I think my sister had sleep apnea for years before she was diagnosed and, finally, treated. She lives alone, so no one could alert her to abnormal breathing at night or snoring. And although she often had daytime drowsiness, she attributed this to her busy teaching schedule and simply failed to mention it to her physician. Since my sister has been treated with a CPAP machine, her energy has returned and she no longer falls asleep during the day. Her blood pressure is also now much easier to control.
Because of research findings such as these, it is my hope that more doctors will talk to their patients about the symptoms and signs of sleep apnea and recommend sleep studies to many more of their diabetic patients.
My advice: If you know someone who is overweight or obese with diabetes, ask them if they had a sleep study. And, while you are at it, ask them about the following, as well:
1) Hemoglobin A1c levels less than 7 percent;
2) Annual ophthalmologic exam by a specialist in diabetes;
3) Blood pressure under 130/80 (ask about taking an ACE inhibitor to lower blood pressure and prevent kidney disease);
4) LDL cholesterol under 100;
5) Triglycerides under 200 fasting;
6) A baby aspirin daily;
7) Annual test of kidneys with a special urine test for protein;
8) Annual check of feet including a test of nerve function;
9) An annual flu shot and the pneumonia vaccine;
10) Don't smoke (good advice for us all).
This may seem like a long list, and it is. But keeping these numbers in check and getting the necessary medical exams can make all the difference in preventing serious complications from diabetes.
Pay it forward -- help a friend with diabetes by being their health buddy, offer to go with them for important tests and help them to achieve their target medical goals.
As always, I welcome your comments and questions.
Dr. Marie Savard is an ABC News medical contributor. Her new book, "Ask Dr. Marie: Straight Talk and Reassuring Answers to Your Most Private Questions," will be available in August.


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INDIANAPOLIS (AP) - USA Football will begin instructing high school coaches and former NFL and college players this weekend in its Heads Up Football trainer workshop to promote player safety.
The national governing body of the sport in the United States conducts its first workshops Saturday and Sunday, with 21 master trainers teaching the concepts of the Heads Up Football program to youth league leaders across the country.
Among the youth coaches taking part will be former Atlanta Falcons linebacker Buddy Curry; Chuck Kyle, head coach at Cleveland's St. Ignatius High School, winner of 11 Ohio Division I state titles and three USA Today national championships; and John Roderique, head coach at Webb City (Mo.) High School, winner of eight state championships.


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Updated January 14:
Patrick Dempsey's company, Global Baristas LLC, is officially the new owner of the Tully's Coffee chain following a hearing in bankruptcy court on Friday January 11. The judge, Karen Overstreet, approved the sale of Tully's to Global Baristas LLC, despite AgriNurture Inc contesting the winning auction bid placed earlier in January.
Soaps.com congratulates Dempsey on his new venture!
Updated January 9:
According to FOX News, AgriNurture Inc., the company who teamed with Starbucks to bid against Patrick Dempsey's Global Baristas LLC for Tully's Coffee stores, has decided to contest Dempsey's winning bid. Apparently the aforementioned team made a joint bid of $10.6 million, while Dempsey's camp bid $9.2 million. If AgriNurture/Starbucks had won, their plan was to make some of the Tully's shops into Starbucks stores. A bankruptcy judge is slated to look at the sale on Friday January 11.
Updated January 4:
According to CBS News, Patrick Dempsey is claiming to have beaten out Starbucks in the auction for Tully's. Starbucks countered that the final decision won't be made until January 11 and that they may still be in a back-up position to win. Stay tuned!
Original article December 27:
"Grey's Anatomy's" Patrick Dempsey, who plays Dr. Derek 'McDreamy' Shepherd, is heading up a group that plans to make a bid to save Seattle's Tully's Coffee, according to E! News. The Washington-based chain has filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy and is in the process of closing several locations. Dempsey and his group will make a bid for Tully's at a bankruptcy auction on January 3. If successful, hundreds of jobs could be saved.
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Chunky Steak Chili Recipe
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- 1-1/2 pounds lean beef chuck or top round steak, cut into bite-size pieces
- 1 tablespoon canola oil
- 2 cans (14-1/2 ounces each) no-salt-added diced tomatoes, undrained
- 2 medium green peppers, chopped
- 1 large onion, chopped
- 2 garlic cloves, minced
- 1 to 3 tablespoons chili powder
- 2 teaspoons ground cumin
- 1 teaspoon dried oregano
- 1 can (16 ounces) kidney beans, rinsed and drained
- In a large heavy saucepan, brown meat in oil. Stir in the next seven ingredients; bring to a boil. Reduce heat. Cover and simmer for 2-1/2 to 3 hours or until meat is tender.
- Stir in beans during the last 30 minutes of cooking. If desired, serve in bread bowls by hollowing out rolls and spooning chili into center. Yield: 6 servings.
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(8) Margrarita, December 14, 2007 1:06 PM
another "green" initiative
(7) Annette, December 13, 2007 12:28 AM
lighting ONE less candle??? whose idea anyway...
I guess it's just too touchy to suggest to christians to leave the trees alone and either do without 'one' tree even for 'one' year or use artificial ones! you know those trees? the ones that are the lungs of the world, the filters of the air, the ones that provide homes and food and breeding grounds to more than 3 billion birds in over 300 species alone, plus the other animals (I just went to a Naturalist's meeting last night and have the data on me)- and these numbers are only for the Ontario portion of the Boreal Forest.
There are more people in Ontario than in Israel, I doubt very much 'one candle less' in Israel will make ANY difference! Israel likely has more smokers than Ontario. How about 'quit smoking' in Israel, all year long?
Relaxing may be difficult in Israel, but I sincerely hope they enjoyed all 44 candles of Chanukah instead. Shamas & all.
I'm sure over 1 million trees were cut this month for xmas, in Ontario alone. Imagine the ecological impact this has on global warming, the burden on the grid, etc.,... maybe more non-Jews should light Chanukah candles - to remind all of the 'need not assimilate' gift from The Almighty; yes, they've started lighting Chanukah candles. Light on! Light on!
(6) malka, December 12, 2007 1:15 AM
so true
I agree, there are more significant dangers that people should be concerned about like car emissions, etc. Cigerettes are no good either and people should try very hard to quit.
The flames on the menorah are not just flames. When we do the mitzvah of lighting the menorah, we bring spiritual light into the world.
I agree that if they want to help the planet, they should not drive on shabbos. plus, they should also not use electricity on that day.
(5) Joey, December 11, 2007 5:02 PM
The "no driving" idea made me smile. :-) One thing this actually makes me consider, though, is that people would be willing to do the one-less-candle thing because it's so easy---the average non-religious person is not overly troubled by it, and while it does not do much good, it would make you feel good. If you really wanted to help the planet, you would do, as Rabbi Saloman said, something more substantial, like not driving as much. But things that really help tend to be so much less trouble than not lighting a candle. (And unless someone calls me preachy, I'll admit I'm so lazy I don't do enough to help the environment; I'm just also self-actualized about it. :-)
Happy Hanukkah and God bless.
(4) Shira, December 11, 2007 9:01 AM
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Whey, creatine and caffeine each have a significant amount of research to support positive effects, but they had never been tested collectively.
A recent study tested the effects of a pre-workout formula containing whey (9g), branched-chain amino acids (BCAAs) (1g), creatine (1.5g) and caffeine (100 mg) consumed 30 minutes before exercise. Subjects participated in high intensity interval training three days per week for three weeks. This involved five sets of two minute sprints on a treadmill with one minute between running bouts.
Compared to a control group receiving carbs only, the combination formula allowed the athletes to train harder resulting in improved responses in cardiovascular fitness, percentage body fat reduction (from 19.3% down to 16.1%), and the accumulation of lean body mass (2.6 pounds).
The results support the combined use of whey, creatine and caffeine for augmenting exercise capacity and positive changes in body composition in response to short term training.


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WASHINGTON (AP) - Some people have been waiting outside the Supreme Court since Thursday -- including some who were paid to hold spots in line for others -- for the Supreme Court arguments on gay marriage that are now getting under way.
Actor and director Rob Reiner, who helped lead the fight against California's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, was at the head of the line this morning.
Both sides of the case are represented among demonstrators outside the court.
It's the Supreme Court's first examination of gay rights in 10 years.
Tomorrow, the court will take up the part of the federal Defense of Marriage Act that prevents same-sex couples who are legally married from receiving a range of federal tax, pension and other benefits that otherwise are available to heterosexual married people.
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The problem: I like being clipped in but when a foot comes out with my trusty SPDs most of the time my foot will just roll right off the pedal. It's worse when you gotta get off in the middle of some rough stuff and trying to start your foot is rolling the pedal out from underneath it. Sucks.
Solution: New pedals? I dunno but a thought. I'm thinking some cross-breed clip/flat pedal may be a solution.
Crank Brothers Mallet 2 or Shimano M647
I'm thinking the mallets are probably a pretty good idea and would work better when unclipped than the Shimanos. But, I've seen a lot of complaints of broken pedals from Crank Brothers. That's makes me leary. Many of the people breaking them have said go with the Shimanos.
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2010-11 Women's Basketball
Mount St. Joseph 66, Bluffton 58
MSJ dominates second half in 66-58 win over Beavers
December 1, 2010
By: Keisha Holtsberry, sports information assistant
CINCINNATI, Ohio - The Bluffton University women's basketball team traveled to the College of Mount St. Joseph on Wednesday, December 1. The Beavers took a 30-22 lead in the first half, but Mt. St. Joseph outscored Bluffton in the second period, 44-28, for a 66-58 win. Bluffton fell to 2-2 overall and 0-1 in the Heartland Conference, while MSJ improved to 1-4 overall and 1-1 in the HCAC.


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Its A Game - Jeopardy! style game [Promo Codes]
RunServer today is pleased to introduce "Its a game!" app for iOS, a brain teaser game inspired by popular television show Jeopardy! Original TV game "Svoya Igra" (licensed Jeopardy! sibling) was presented in Russia 16 years ago and still very popular and is shown every week. It's mobile implementation first came to Android and now it comes to iPhone and iPad in English.
For Jeopardy! fans, 'Its a game!' is a nostalgic, retro homage like just a small TV show in your pocket. On the other hand it's a real brain teaser for erudites. There is nothing extraneous in game mechanics or graphical design: there are three players in the game and a game field filled with different priced questions of several categories. Each game contains of tree regular rounds and one final round. For each question there is 60-seconds timer and "Answer" button for every human player.
Feature Highlights:
* Thousands of questions and categories from J! Archive
* Interesting facts and wisdom quotes on the start page
* Practice, online and other game modes
* Random Auction and Pig in a Pocket questions
* Three difficulty modes
* Hot seat game with rating table
* Sound effects
* Dozen of different avatars for players
* Full support for all iOS 4.3 - 6.0 devices including iPhone 5 and iPad Mini
iTunes Store (Free): https://itunes.apple.com/app/id556554983
iTunes Store ($0.99): https://itunes.apple.com/app/id575519048
Promo codes for HD version:
Other free games by this developer:
Classic Solitaire
Crossword Puzzles+
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"We have developed a management structure that takes advantage of our experienced managers' expertise, while enhancing quality control," said Harvey Crouch, founder and president.
"Our goal is to improve our clients' bottom line. We are accomplishing this goal by putting our best people in the best possible positions to improve our overall efficiency and increase our capability to handle a consistently growing client base and workload. Continuous teaching, training and mentoring has become easier with the change in management structure."
Crouch Engineering has already taken action with the recent addition of a Client Services and Business Development Department. Trey Hart, a University of North Carolina graduate, has been named coordinator.
Adding this department is only the first step in Crouch's plan for expansion. Future changes include a restructuring of upper management, hiring new engineers and surveyors and growing the company from within through education and training.


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P&WC Sees Regional Turboprop Demand Flying High for Next Decade
Pratt & Whitney Canada (P&WC) continues to see a sustained demand for regional turboprop aircraft and estimates a market for 3,000 regional turboprop aircraft in the next 20 years, with the majority of the regional aircraft in the 70 to 100 seat capacity.
"We are experiencing excellent growth in the regional turboprop market and believe demand will only increase," said Richard Dussault, vice president, Marketing, P&WC. "Deliveries of turboprops have grown steadily at P&WC since 2003. All indicators point to an acceleration of demand and we have taken the right steps to ensure that we can meet that demand in a timely manner, with products that exceed our customers' expectations."
Click here to read Pratt & Whitney Canada's press release.


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Submission + - YouTube Refuses to Remove anti-Islamic Film Clip
Hugh Pickens writes writes: "BBC reports that Google officials have rejected the notion of removing a video that depicts the prophet as a fraud and philanderer and has been blamed for sparking violence at US embassies in Cairo and Benghazi on grounds it does not violate YouTube's policies, but restricted viewers in Egypt and Libya from loading it due to the special circumstances in the country. Google's response to the crisis highlighted the struggle faced by the company, and others like it, to balance free speech with legal and ethical concerns in an age when social media can impact world events. "This video – which is widely available on the Web – is clearly within our guidelines and so will stay on YouTube," Google said in a statement. "However, given the very difficult situation in Libya and Egypt, we have temporarily restricted access in both countries." Underscoring Google's quandary, some digital free expression groups have criticised YouTube for censoring the video. Eva Galperin of the Electronic Frontier Foundation says given Google' s strong track record of protecting free speech, she was surprised the company gave in to pressure to selectively block ithe video "It is extremely unusual for YouTube to block a video in any country without it being a violation of their terms of service or in response to a valid legal complaint," says Galperin. "I'm not sure they did the right thing.""


text: Microsoft ships its high-end tablet with Windows 8.1 Pro. Dell puts either Windows 8.1 or Win 8.1 Pro inside. The major differences between Windows 8.1 versions will matter most to people using the device on a corporate Windows network. The Pro edition includes BitLocker for file security and can join domains, process Group Policies, become a Hyper-V client, boot from virtual images and host Remote Desktop sessions. Of course, core Windows functions exist on both, including a Desktop mode with support for multiple windows, the ability to run multiple instances of the same application and to run legacy x86 apps. Neither Windows 8.1 nor the Pro version can create Windows To Go sessions; that's a feature reserved for Windows 8.1 Enterprise.


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Tuesday, August 17, 2010
Just Added: Sizzix eclips!
4 comments:
- AnonymousAugust 18, 2010 at 6:35 AM
you have wrong information about this machine. the description you have posted is for the eCraft by Craftwell (www.craftwellusa.com)ReplyDelete
- AnonymousAugust 18, 2010 at 7:36 AM
This is what is says on CRAFTWELL'S websiteReplyDelete
Craftwell is proud to bring you eCraft...
The first and only personal electronic cutter that allows you to cut without a mat.
Its ease of use combined with advanced technology makes the eCraft the perfect cutting system for all consumers- beginner to expert. It is ideal for scrapbooking, banners, paper crafting, card making, fashion designing, home decor, and so much more.
The eCraft's unique design and paper feeder system make it easy to cut materials automatically, without the use of a cutting mat. Use the Paper Tray to stack multiple sheets at a time, or use the Roller to cut 12" by ANY length.
The eCraft is ultra slim, and its lightweight design and onboard storage compartment let you take it anywhere. Use it on its own with SD Image Cards, or attached to a computer with the eCraftshop Professional Design Software that comes in the box! With the large selection of fonts, shapes and designs, anyone can be an expert in minutes. Making great looking projects has never been easier!
- AnonymousAugust 18, 2010 at 7:37 AM
The eClips requires a mat and doesn't use that software, the description you have posted is incorrect!ReplyDelete
oops, thanks guys. getting two products mixed up. the eclips is here, and the ecraft is on it's way. thanks for the heads up : )ReplyDelete


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Taking Your Enterprise Mobile: The Executive Checklist
By following certain guidelines when it comes to deploying secure mobile apps, developing clear-cut mobile policies, preventing data leakage, and other key parts of mobility, your organization can overcome the seemingly overwhelming challenges of going mobile successfully.
Read on to find an executive checklist that will help you ensure that you are ready to handle both enterprise mobility and bring-your-own-device programs. Inside, you'll learn more about:
- Device freedom vs. device consistency
- Developing data protection policies
- Redundancy and fault tolerance
- And more...


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By Abrahm Lustgarten / ProPublica - September 20, 2012
On a cold, overcast afternoon in January 2003, two tanker trucks backed up to an injection well site in a pasture outside Rosharon, Texas.
There, under a steel shed, they began to unload thousands of gallons of wastewater for burial deep beneath the earth.The waste – the byproduct of oil and gas drilling – was described in regulatory documents as a benign mixture of salt and water. But as the liquid rushed from the trucks, it released a billowing vapor of far more volatile materials, including benzene and other flammable hydrocarbons.... http://dgrnewsservice.org/2012/09/20/oil-and-gas-drillers-have-injected-more-than-10-trillion-gallons-of-wastewater-into-the-earth/


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Thread: Glenn Beck Urges Google Boycott
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I'm an IT guy, systems architect and programmer so I can't avoid google. Besides their technology is done right, open and it's just plain great! I can't avoid google, I have a G2, google handles my voicemails, emails, calendar, contacts, everything!
I think in this particular perverse marriage of Google and Big Government people are looking at it from the side. If Google wants to be a douchey libtard company so be it, but the solution isn't to try and make Google change, it's not the people's company so voters have no say in how it's run. The solution is to make government change, because that's how it's supposed to work. We need a government that wouldn't ask Google to spy on it's citizens. So long as people are going to continue to do things like vote for people who continuously rubber stamp the PATRIOT ACT, the paranoiac behavior of Big Government will remain."In England a king hath little more to do than to make war and give away places; which in plain terms, is to impoverish the nation and set it together by the ears. A pretty business indeed for a man to be allowed eight hundred thousand sterling a year for, and worshipped into the bargain! Of more worth is one honest man to society and in the sight of God, than all the crowned ruffians that ever lived."
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EPIC RETURN: Although Nathan Silver has lived in New York for 10 years, he chose his native Arlington as a filming site in the summer of 2010 for "Exit Elena," a dark comedy that he co-wrote, directed, and produced.
On Friday, he will host its first local screening in a sneak preview at the Regent Theatre, 7 Medford St. in Arlington, at 7:30 p.m.
Kia Davis of New York, who shared writing duties with Silver, plays the title character, who takes a job as a live-in aide only to find herself in the middle of a family crisis.
The 72-minute movie also stars the director's mother, Lexington resident Cindy Silver, with additional relatives and neighbors as members of the cast and crew. Silver's best friend, David Dahlbom of Arlington, was the cameraman.
Silver, who is working on his fourth feature film, said he is grateful for the attention "Exit Elena" has received at film festivals in Edinburgh, Vienna, Buenos Aires, Wilmington, N.C., and Woodstock, N.Y., where it won honorable mention in the narrative feature category. As an added thrill, he has met long-admired directors such as Hal Hartley and actors including Elliott Gould.
While Silver has enjoyed introducing his film to audiences worldwide, he is looking forward to a homecoming at the Regent Theatre.
"It's always nice to show the movie around the place it was shot, and the fact it's being shown in a theater I remember going to as a kid is pretty cool," he said.
"Showing the film in all these foreign countries feels strange, but maybe this will feel stranger. You never know."
Tickets cost $8 in advance and $10 on Friday. For details, visit www.regenttheatre.com or www.exitelena.com.
OUTLIVING THE SUN: Author, rocket scientist, and software engineer Allan Klumpp of Weston (right) will be the featured speaker in a Walden Forum presentation Tuesday at 7:30 p.m. at First Parish in Wayland, 50 Cochituate Road .
In his talk, "Making Civilization Permanent: Outliving the Sun," Klumpp will describe practical approaches to protecting water supplies, reducing carbon dioxide, ending global warming and continental glaciation, and preventing impacts with celestial bodies.
His 44-year career in space technology included a stint in Caltech's Jet Propulsion Laboratory developing software for the Mars rovers, and working on the Apollo lunar-descent guidance and steering systems — which were used in all six missions that landed on the moon — at the MIT Instrumentation Laboratory. He resigned from Caltech in 2003 to devote his efforts full time to extending human civilization.
"Some problems are extremely urgent, and others most certainly will be urgent to our grandchildren and great-grandchildren," Klumpp said. "It is within humanity's power to intervene for the benefit of all people and animals on the planet."
The Walden Forum is a free public lecture series. For more information, e-mail email@example.com or visit www.waldenforum.org.
NEW PURPOSE: Although she attained her professional goal of becoming a lawyer in 1995, Maynard resident Carolyn Romano (below) never ceased searching for meaning beyond her work in estate planning and special education law.
Today, Romano leads several efforts to share her passion for mind-body medicine, self care, and skill building. Twice a month, she hosts the "Living on Purpose" show on the Dreamvisions 7 Radio Network.
The program complements the work she does through her practice, Bliss Healing Arts in Maynard, where she integrates alternative healing methods and follows the research-based model developed by the Center for Mind-Body Medicine in Washington, D.C.
Since 2005, Romano has also been president of the Theosophical Society, an Arlington-based nonprofit organization that encourages people to explore various philosophies and spiritual practices through lectures, workshops, study groups, and meditation exercises.
From 10 a.m. to 5:30 p.m. on Saturday, the Theosophical Society will host its seventh annual Day of Healing and Insight, a fund-raiser offering 25-minute appointments for chair massage, reiki, qigong, energy healing, astrology, intuitive readings, and communication with pets.
Romano, who will offer Native American sacred path card intuitive readings, and selfrepair activation and biofeedback sessions during the event, said the overall goal is to help people keep their lives in balance so they can respond to obstacles from a place of peace and strength.
"Our vision," she said, "is to make spiritual knowledge available to all seekers."
For more information, go online to www.tsboston.org or www.blisshealingarts.com.
FOCUS ON ALZHEIMER'S: West Newton resident Eleanor Rubin will open her exhibition of works exploring the impact of Alzheimer's disease on elders and their families Monday at the VSA Massachusetts Open Door Gallery, 89 South St. in Boston.
The show, "Progress of the Eclipse: Memory, Memory Loss, and Imagination," features more than 25 prints, drawings, and watercolors Rubin created while caring for her mother, child psychoanalyst Marjorie Rosenfeld Leonard, prior to her death on Jan. 7, 1992.
"Creating images during a period of my mother's illness fulfilled a need for self-transformation during times when the emotional burden was too great to be relieved by words," said Rubin, noting that there is a "feeling of hope" among the images of loss and grief.
A reception with Rubin will be held Thursday from 4 to 7 p.m. at the gallery, where the show will run through April 12.
For more information, visit www.ellyrubinjournal.typepad.com.
WHAT LIES BENEATH: Diane Bronstein of Arlington is the curator and a contributing artist for a traveling exhibition, "Underneath It All: Desire, Power, Memory, and Lingerie," opening Tuesday at the Coconino Center for the Arts in Flagstaff, Ariz.
Bronstein will be the artist-in-residence through the end of the show on Feb. 16, leading workshops, giving public presentations, and working with local students.
The show, which includes work by Needham sculptor Ingrid Goldbloom Bloch , features 11 artists from around the country who use, interpret, or create lingerie in a wide range of media.
Bronstein said, "Our work examines many societal issues associated with lingerie," such as sexual politics, gender identification, and mass marketing, "and is humorous, moving, and beautiful."
For more information, visit underneathitallartexhibit.com.
FLOATING A NEW BOOK: An architect and artist from Newton, Lisa Reindorf (above) will celebrate the launch of her children's book, "The Great Balloon Adventure," with a gathering from 6 to 8 p.m. Thursday at Soprafina Gallery, 55 Thayer St. in Boston. The gallery offers free parking in its Thayer Street lot.
For more information, call 617-728-0770 or go online to www.soprafina.com.People items may be submitted to cantrell@ globe.com.


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The problem isn't the progress bar actually, it's the grid (lines 284/285).. I can confirm that I don't have any custom CSS definitions affecting the result.
The problem isn't the progress bar actually, it's the grid (lines 284/285).. I can confirm that I don't have any custom CSS definitions affecting the result.
I would add that in IE7, the act of adding a file to the upload queue is also causing an error in ext-all-debug.js (1.1 stable) at line 2402:
That's the setStyle member of El.prototype - I'll try to help you figure out why.Code:setStyle : function(prop, value){ if(typeof prop == "string"){ var camel; if(!(camel = propCache[prop])){ camel = propCache[prop] = prop.replace(camelRe, camelFn); } if(camel == 'opacity') { this.setOpacity(value); }else{ this.dom.style[camel] = value; } }else{ for(var style in prop){ if(typeof prop[style] != "function"){ this.setStyle(style, prop[style]); } } } return this; },
The problem occurs in Ext.ux.ProgressBar.js at line 94:
Code:refresh : function() { if (!this.disabled) { if (this.text_el) { this.text_el.dom.innerHTML = this.text; } if (this.line_el) { this.line_el.setStyle('width', this.getPercentValue() + '%'); } }
Fixed the scroll bars issue, please update the package.
Use the force - read the source.
Fixed the scroll bars issue! A+ Just that pesky IE issue remaining. I'll gladly help you track down a fix if you need.
Hi, the extension is GREAT !! Just what i'm looking for. Could you put the php files that use in the demo to understand all the process please?
There is nothing special in the php files used in the demo. The upload-dialog.php actually has no php code inside, it's just plain html. The upload-dialog-request.php simple sends json-encoded struct, the uploaded files isn't saved anywhere
In the real life use you have to anylize the $_FILES superglobal php array. The $_FILES['file'] contains any data you'll need to copy uploaded file somewhere in your serverCode:<?php $response = array( 'success' => true ); echo json_encode($response); ?>
On success just send json-encoded response as one showed above, on fail send something like:
Code:<?php ... $response = array( 'success' => false, 'error' => 'Description of the error occured.' ); echo json_encode($response); ... ?>
Use the force - read the source.
What a great extension! Much respect for you all !