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Control Your Mac from Afarby Harold Martin
There are many different ways to control your Mac -- even when you're not sitting at it. You might think that this level of flexibility would require special software. But no! If you're running Mac OS X, you'll be able to accomplish everything in this article without buying a single piece of software. As a bonus, you can also perform most of these tricks on the Mac you're sitting at right now. (Even though that wouldn't actually be remote controlling, now would it?)
The Tools We'll Use
ssh is the Secure SHell. It and its accompanying programs allow you
to securely log in and copy files to other computers running an
ssh server.
The target Mac must have OS X's built-in
ssh server enabled. You can
do this by checking "Remote Login" in the "Services" tab in the "Sharing"
System Preference pane.
ssh is the "remote" part in "remote control:" we use
ssh to log in to
the Mac that we want to control, and then use the other technologies
we'll talk about below to do the actual controlling. The computer you'll
use to control the target Mac should have an
ssh client. Most types of UNIX
(including OS X) come with an
ssh client, and clients are available
on just about every other platform, including Windows and OS 9. If you're
interested in learning more about
ssh, I recommend SSH,
The Secure Shell: The Definitive Guide.
Built-In CommandsOn top of the normal UNIX commands we'll use, Mac OS X has a couple of extra ones that will be particularly helpful to us:
openis a command that can open a file, directory, application, or URL from the command line, just as if it was double-clicked in the Finder.
screencaptureis a program that (surprise, surprise) takes a screen shot of what is on the computer's screen.
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AppleScript, as you probably know, can be used to control almost everything
on your Mac (now even more so, with GUI
Scripting). You can run AppleScripts from the command line with
osascript scriptname. You can also write scripts
on the fly with
osascript -e 'line 1' -e 'line 2'. This
is an amazing tool that we'll use a lot.
We'll use
cron to run AppleScripts and commands automatically at set
Remember ...
In order for
screencapture, or
osascript to work over
ssh, you
must have either
ssh'd in as the user currently running, or you must
run them with
sudo. In other words, if user Alice is logged
in at the actual machine and you
ssh in as Bob, you would need to run
sudo open file if you wanted
file to appear
on Alice's screen. On the other hand, if you logged in as Alice, you
would only have to run
open file. Keep this in mind; it's
tripped me up before.
Let's Do It!
Now that you've got your tools in order, I'll walk you through a few tricks to get you started with remote-controlling magic. Well, it's not really magic -- just some good old-fashioned UNIX and Apple technologies.
Logging In
In OS X, open up Terminal and type:
ssh username@target's IP
Replacing the target's IP and the username you use on the target, as appropriate.
If you're using a non-UNIX
ssh client, check its documentation for instructions
on logging in.
After a successful login, you'll get a command prompt from which you'll execute the tricks below!
Seeing What the Target Is DoingTo start, go to the prompt and enter:
You'll see what processes are running, sorted by CPU usage. The processes
whose names end in
.app are OS X applications. If you want
to see just the applications, enter:
ps -aux | grep '.app'
ps will list all processes, and
grep will display
all of the lines that contain ".app".
Now, if you want to see exactly what the other computer is up to, you could enter:
screencapture -x ~/screen.pdf
This will take a screenshot (without the "camera click" sound) that will
be saved to the file screen.pdf. But how do you view it? By using
to copy the screenshot to your computer! If you're still in your
session, you should type:
scp ~/screen.pdf yourusername@yourIP:
substituting your username and IP. Be sure to have the "
:" at the end,
scp won't recognize that you want to copy to
another computer.
An alternate way to get the screenshot is to exit your
ssh session and,
at your local prompt, type:
scp otherusername@target's IP:screen.pdf screen.pdf
Again, substitute the correct IP and username.
Either way, you'll end up with the screenshot file screen.pdf in your home directory, which you can look at and see exactly what the other computer was doing!
Communicating With the User of the Other Computer
Now, what if you want to say something to the person using the other
computer? To do this, we'll use the dynamic duo of
ssh and
Logged in over
ssh, you can enter:
sudo osascript -e 'tell app "Finder" to activate' -e 'tell app "Finder"
to display dialog "I see you!"'
All that this does is run a two-line (two
-es) script that activates
the Finder (which is necessary in order for the dialog to have some
place to appear) and then displays the dialog. You can use any AppleScript
you want, and you can also get the results of what the user on the target
Mac did. For example you could use something like this to let the user
talk back to you:
sudo osascript -e 'tell app "Finder" to activate' -e 'tell app "Finder"
to display dialog "What would you like to say?" default answer ""'
In the text printed out over the
ssh session, you will see a line like
"text returned:Hi!, button returned:OK". The text returned will be what
the user typed back.
But what if you actually wanted to talk to the user, with a voice? You would enter this:
A couple of notes, though: I've sometimes had problems using speech with
sudo osascript -e 'say "Now I can watch you and talk to you"'
so you might also want to try this without
sudo. Also keep in mind that this
will have no effect if the target Mac is muted. You might want to use
display dialog for maximum effect!
Closing and Opening Applications
Think back to the discussion of seeing what the target Mac is doing.
What if you see an application that you want to close? From the listing you
get from
ps -aux, you can get an application's process
ID (PID). You can then take that PID and pass it to the
kill command:
kill PID
I've found this to be particularly useful when an application won't quit
(even with force quit) or when it's in fullscreen mode (like a game).
I can just log in from another machine and quit the wayward app, then
get back to work. If something freezes so bad that normal
kill won't,
well, kill it (a rarity) then you can use "super" kill:
kill -9 PID
The only problem with
killing an app is that it will immediately
close down, giving the user no chance to save any open documents first.
What if you would like to close down the application in a kinder manner?
AppleScript to the rescue! You can quit TextEdit and still allow the
user to save his changes by entering:
osascript -e 'tell app "TextEdit" to quit'
Be careful, though; if TextEdit isn't already open, then this script will
cause it to open and then quit. Use
ps to make sure TextEdit
(or whatever application) is open in the first place. Also keep in mind
that the user can simply click the Cancel button to keep the app from
Shutting Down or Rebooting
Suppose you want to shut down or reboot the computer. As before, there's the immediate UNIX way and the kinder (but user-cancelable) AppleScript way. The command-line way to shut down is:
sudo shutdown -h now
This will close your
ssh session and shut down the computer, regardless
of any apps or documents that may be open. To reboot, simply enter:
sudo reboot
Again, this will close everything down without mercy. To give the user a chance to save what they're doing (and yes, to cancel the shutdown) you can type:
osascript -e 'tell app "Finder" to shut down'
osascript -e 'tell app "Finder" to reboot'
to shut down and reboot, respectively. The only way a user can cancel this is to keep an application open long enough that the shutdown or reboot times out. But at least it won't give the user the "Are you sure you want to shut down your computer now?" dialog!
Using AppleScript GUI Scripting to Control any Application
Apple has released a beta scripting engine, called GUI Scripting, that allows AppleScripts to take full control of any application by directly interacting with its GUI elements (such as menus and buttons). First, download it from Apple's GUI Scripting page. There are also some example GUI scripts there that you should look over. Here is a simple script that puts the computer to sleep, something that can't be accomplished via the Finder's AppleScript dictionary or with regular UNIX commands:
tell application "Finder"
end tell
tell application "System Events"
with timeout of 30 seconds
tell process "Finder"
tell menu bar 1
click menu item "Sleep" of menu "Apple"
end tell
end tell
end timeout
end tell
end try
You should save this script it as sleep.scpt, preferably in a hidden directory (such as ~/.applescripts). The next time you log in, you can just enter:
osascript .applescript/sleep.scpt
though putting the computer to sleep will freeze your
ssh session.
GUI Scripting will probably end up being one of the most useful tools in your toolbox, as what you can accomplish with it is (nearly) infinite, at least as far as controlling your Mac goes.
Automating Your Remote Control
Now that we've covered how to use a variety of UNIX commands and AppleScripts to control your Mac, there's only one major obstacle left to complete control: you have to be at a computer to do the controlling. Wouldn't it be nice if you could tell your Mac to take control of certain things at certain times?
Enter cron, the age-old UNIX command-scheduling tool. If
you don't know how to use
cron, you should read this
tutorial or Chris Stone's "Learning
the Terminal in Jaguar." Don't worry,
cron is actually
quite simple.
Since you can't be sure which user (in any) will be logged on when the
cron job runs, you have to edit root's crontab.
With that in mind, you can grab your favorite UNIX text editor, run it
sudo, and edit /etc/crontab; or, you can use a GUI tool like CronniX.
The only difference between CronniX and /etc/crontab is that in CronniX
you don't use the
who field. If you choose to use CronniX,
you open root's crontab by clicking Open and typing in
for the username.
* * * * * root sudo osascript -e
'tell app "Finder" to activate' -e 'tell app "Finder" to display
dialog current date as string'
Though of course, you would never put that in your crontab, since it would drive you as well as all of your users crazy
Full Remote GUI Control
Finally, if you want complete control over the GUI, there's VNC. VNC allows you to open a window that shows the exact the desktop of the other computer, so you can move the other user's mouse, type in their dialog boxes, and otherwise annoy them. OSXvnc and Chicken of the VNC are my favorite server and client, respectively. After launching your VNC server, you can use any computer that has VNC client to log in and do your remote controlling. The biggest downside to VNC (and the reason it is not covered more extensively here) is that it is totally interactive and is difficult (if not impossible) to automate.
You're well on your way to automating and controlling your Mac. Using both old and new tools, you should be able to use your Mac whether you're sitting in front of it, on another computer, or letting it execute timed tasks itself. Read sites like Mac OS X Hints and O'Reilly Hacks (and their books Mac OS X Hints: Jaguar Edition and Mac OS X Hacks) to find more tricks you can use.
With all the possibilities, I'll be excited to see what you come up with. Post your experiences and ideas in the Talkback section below!
Harold Martin is a freelance software developer and author. Visit him at his blog.
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So you should boycott it, or "you don't really feels as strongly about this as you think you do."
GREAT post Brian, literally impossible to combat with logic.
Two must-read posts: Ramzy at Bucknuts on whoredom and Doctor Saturday on the sheer lack of sense.
I'm not posting this in the hope that it will change anything. Since Dave Brandon came out in favor of moving the Michigan-Ohio State game to midseason there's been tremendous fan pushback, with opinion running about 10-to-1 against. It obviously doesn't matter, because the men in suits are ramping up the meaningless PR doublespeak to alarming levels:
…the reason the Big Ten is great is because of our fans. We had five and a half million fans come to games [in 2009]. Whether it's the Rose Bowl or Ohio State-Michigan, we welcome that, and there's an awful lot of discussion of, generally speaking, how our fans feel about what we do. We're not fan-insensitive, we're fan-receptive and are only interested in doing what is going to grow our fan base.
Whenever someone starts talking about how great the fans are, the fans are about to get it in uncomfortable places, especially when that's the first thing they talk about in the face of obvious, massive opposition. Meanwhile, the SID is trying to calm people over email by saying for Michigan and Ohio State to meet for the conference title they will "have to play their way into the championship game." If it was a trial balloon people would be walking it back by now after the reaction it's received. The thing is far enough along that Barry Alvarez is flat-out stating that Iowa and Wisconsin will be split up. It's actually happening.
So this doesn't matter. But here's why Michigan and Ohio State's athletic directors should be out in the streets rounding up pitchfork-toting mobs instead of rolling over like Indiana:
The financial benefits are almost literally zero. Dan Wetzel cites a TV executive claiming that at maximum, the vague possibility of Michigan and Ohio State meeting in a Big Ten championship game once a decade might be worth two million dollars a year ("it might be half that," he adds). Even taking the most optimistic number, the end result for Michigan is another 150k per year (the conference takes a share). Assuming an average of seven home games a year, Michigan could earn that by raising ticket prices twenty cents. Meanwhile, every other Big Ten team sees the same increase in their bottom line.
Twenty cents!
Michigan and Ohio State will almost never meet. The Plain Dealer looked back at the league since Penn State's addition and concluded that in the last sixteen years, a Michigan-Ohio State championship game would have happened all of three times.
In the future you can expect that to be far less frequent. Michigan will be guaranteed that 1) they play an outstanding Ohio State team and 2) three of the other five teams in their division do not. If the matchup is going to occur it's going to be the same for Ohio State. The loser of that game is going to have to overcome that deficit against teams that have a much easier schedule. The addition of Nebraska adds another historic power to the league. "Once a decade" is not hyperbole. It's a reasonable estimate.
As a result, you are turning M-OSU from something that will always have stakes to something you hope to do over. This is Delany's reasoning:
"If Duke and North Carolina were historically the two strongest programs and only one could play for the right to be in the NCAA tournament, would you want them playing in the season-ending game so one is in and one is out?" he asked. "Or would you want them to play and have it count in the standings and then they possibly could meet for the right to be in the NCAA or the Rose Bowl?
"We've had those debates. It's a good one. The question is whether you want to confine a game that's one of the greatest rivalries of all time to a divisional game."
Yes. Because the loser of that game is doomed and knows it. Moving it to midseason just makes it a particularly high hurdle that might not mean much—that the conference explicitly hopes doesn't mean much—at the end of the year, when the two teams can do it again, except indoors in Indianapolis. Doctor Saturday:
Keep the game what it's always been, the ritualistic culmination of an entire season in a single, freezing orgy of centuries-old hate that cannot be overturned or redeemed for at least another 365 days. In good years, the division championship (hence a shot at the conference championship) will be on the line, preserving the familiar winner-take-all/loser-go-home intensity that made "The Game" what it is in the first place.
You are doing something your fans hate. The kids don't get paid, the stadium doesn't have advertising, the idea that there is a Michigan Thing that it is possible not to "get" in a way that it is not possible Jim Schwartz does not "get" the Lions Thing: these are the things that separate college football from minor league baseball. For decades Michigan's season has had a certain shape defined by the great Satan at the end of it.
This is where the disconnect between the suits and the fans is greatest. Beating Ohio State isn't about winning the Big Ten, it's about beating Ohio State, just like the Egg Bowl is about beating that other team in Mississippi or the Civil War is about beating that other team in Oregon or any billion other year-end rivalry games that have been played since the Great Depression. M-OSU is the super-sized version of the old-fashioned rivalries based on pure hate. It's not Miami-Florida State, a game entirely dependent on the teams being national contenders for it to even sell out, but the Big Ten is treating it like the country's fakest rivalry game anyway.
It so happens that a lot of the time OSU and Michigan do decide the Big Ten, but did anyone want to beat OSU less in the mid-90s when Michigan limped into the game with 3 or 4 losses every year? Or last year? No. Would it matter less as an October game to be followed by three or four more? Necessarily yes. Is that the worst thing in the world? Yes.
I have no tolerance for anyone too dense to grasp this, much less see it as a potentially good thing, as Dave at Maize N Brew does. I said his post on the matter was the stupidest thing I'd ever seen a Michigan fan write and it remains so. Orson's post on the matter is also the dumbest thing I've ever seen him write. The reason college football matters in a way the NFL does not is the idea it has that some things are not worth selling. Once the date of the Michigan-Ohio State game goes the only thing left is the labor of the players.
I'll still be there. I don't have a choice, really, but the special kind of misery I'll experience when Michigan plays Ohio State at 8 PM in October and Special K blasts "Lose Yourself" during a critical review will make me feel like an exploited sap, not a member of a community in which my opinions matter. They clearly don't. This will matter in the same way erosion does.
Speaking as an Auburn fan on Big 10 moving M/OSU to midseason: If they'd tried that w/ the Iron Bowl I'd have burned SEC HQ to the ground
Because I have a soul, I've already firmly aligned myself with the "armageddon" crowd, made up of those of us who can't stand the thought of one side telling the other in mid-October, "We'll see you again when it really matters." Which probably means I've aligned myself with the losing side. Whatever the motivations of its less influential champions, the prospect of a Buckeye-Wolverine split only has traction among people who matter because the people who matter see a buck in it: If one Ohio State-Michigan game is good, two Ohio State-Michigan games must be even better, and I'm sure they have the ratings projections and accompanying ad rates to prove it. The rivalry has already defined and shaped the national perception of the Big Ten for the last 50 years; just think of the possibility of the rivalry-as-championship game as "expanding the brand."
Saving this game at the end is the culmination of a season-long crescendo.
Michigan-Indiana at the end of the year, for example, doesn't offer the same cachet.
And it never will.
Are you kidding me? It's been played the last week of the season all but once since 1935, and it's the league's single most important franchise. You would think conference leaders would go to any length to protect it. …
Sometimes leaders make decisions without properly thinking through the issues. This one sounds like a case of over-thinking. Do the right thing, Mr. Delany, Mr. Brandon and Mr. Smith, lest the ghosts of Woody and Bo haunt you in your sleep.
Be warned, Big Ten: you move The Game, you will rip the heart and suck the soul out of the single greatest property the conference owns. And for what, a few more advertising dollars every few years when they do happen to stumble into a title showdown? One that will, incidentally, likely be contested in a sterile, domed, neutral location as opposed to yet another reason that The Game is what it is -- The Big House and The Shoe.
So… yeah. Join the Facebook page. Maybe it will help. It won't, actually, but maybe you'll feel better about it.
So you should boycott it, or "you don't really feels as strongly about this as you think you do."
GREAT post Brian, literally impossible to combat with logic.
Some tradition automatically goes by the wayside with the move to 12 teams and divisions.
If its the last game of the year and they are in different divisions, we will have several meaningless OSU/UM games. Probably each class will have at least one of The Games minimized because of clinched divisions, a more important game the following week, perhaps even against their rival again.
This I dont like. I dont like different divisions, period.
I am fine with The Game never determining the Big 10 title again. I am fine with losing that tradition.
Just put them in the same division and let The Game decide the Division Title most years. It's not the same, but its reality in the modern world.
The future of CFB is not a playoff, but the winners of the conference championship game playing a 4-team tourney.
What is so wrong with OSU/UM on the last day to decide a spot in the Big 10 title game. Sounds pretty fucking dramatic to me, even if its not the same. The winner advances one step closer to getting into the real postseason, while the loser licks its wounds and prepares for an OUtback Bowl.
Just fucking do this. You'll still make oodles of money. Why are people so dumb? Do I want to know that answer?
The Big Ten has been so successful, they think they can do whatever they want and it won't affect anything.
On the plus side, maybe the Angry Michigan-Hating God will be so pissed off (i.e., "Hey, screwing Michigan football is my job!") that it will become the Angry Jim Delany-Hating God.
when they first talked about having to move some rivalries, everyone on the planet with two words to say about sports put Mich-OSU as either the only, or one of only two Big 10 rivalries that were obviously untouchable.
I maintain that there is an anti-intelligence field in Chicago.
Couldn't care less when the game is played as long as it IS played and we beat them every year.
No. No. No. No.
Take that to the millionth power and that's how I feel about what you said.
Were gonna go ahead and move the Red Soxs to the NL and only let the Yankees play them during inner leauge play.
Then they could play for the World Series Championship every year!!
(Other than Celtics-Lakers, are there really any other great cross Conference/League rivalries out there? Cowboys-Steelers a little back in the day, but not really historic).
Florida-Florida State, Clemson-South Carolina, and I'm sure there are others. And this won't be a cross-conference/cross-league rivalry. Michigan-OSU are still in the same conference.
Are in the same League. Which is a more apt comparison, two leagues, crossover play, winners play for a championship at the end. Vs. Cross-Conference College rivalries, which aren't the same thing at all. (I guess Florida-FSU got a rematch, once). And really...if those are the best you can come up with...you've proven my point.
One thing has nothing to do with the other. Yanks-Sox is a great rivalry even when they play in May.
Michigan - OSU is and will be a great rivalry regardless when they play. And if they could play in the Big Ten Championship game, more power to the rivalry.
Also it's interleague, not inner leauge. Neg for that and that alone.
Michigan - OSU is and will be a great rivalry regardless when they play.
Read Brian's post again. Seriously.
Are you going to watch or care about the game any less if it's in October? Seriously.
Because they won't be playing for anything. Because if they lose, they still have half the season to make it up. Because they might even get a chance to beat them, later. Because the whole season won't have been building to this point.
So will I care? Yes. Will I care less? Yup.
... to moving the Game for any reason.
Do you think it would help to have every MGoUser email that video to Dave Brandon?
King Kaufman, who is (or at least was) the sports columnist on Salon.com, used to point out that sports executives always crap on the most die-hard sports fans b/c they know that those people, no matter how upset they are about something, won't go away. Decisions are made for the sake of people who aren't really that big into sports but whom the executives hope they can win over.
I just kept thinking how much better things would be if Brian Cook was the Big Ten commissioner. He actually has a brain that works.
Thanks, Brian, for putting my feelings to words. You really captured the essence of the rivalry, and why it's worth whatever effort we can muster to keep it as it is.
I thought you believed that you weren't identified by the things you consumed.
So I can't get a playoff game because we need to preserve the Insight.dot com bowl, but you'll rip the only tradition fans really give a rip about and we don't have a decent answer why? College football is the biggest dick tease in the world, with her perfect tits and tight ass teasing me for month after month with no payoff. I need MVictors to find a sicker 2 year stretch in Michigan history than these last 2. We have a shitty record and then we take a tradition 2 hander right in the sack. Thanks Delany ....make sure you keep that Rose Bowl tradition alive though you fucking dick.
I feel SCM at Maize n Brew had a good response to this as well
I hope some of these arguments filter up to the top
Dave Brandon, Gordon Gee, and Jim Delany et al have done the impossible: Michigan and Ohio State fans are now both on the same side of something, wanting to fight together instead of fight each other.
That alone should tell them how spectacularly stupid this idea is. I can't believe this is actually happening.
While I, in general, agree with sentiment about the importance of the game, etc., there is one easy solution to the "how can UM, OSU win their division when they have a guaranteed cross-divisional game against the best team from the opposite division?" problem. In-division record only determines who goes on to B10 championship game.
really means nothing.
which, is like, not very often. and will certainly not be the case if the teams are not in big ten title contention, in which case it meant "nothing" anyway.
The day the rivalry died...
11/26/2011 actually.
gist though.
If this shit goes down like it looks like it will, that game will be the most important game of my lifetime. It'll be played at Michigan, we will be chock full of talent and experience, and we MUST win it.
And wouldn't it be great if it were scheduled for the end of the 2011 season, instead of mid-October?
I was at The Game last year. I can't believe it may have been the last one at The Big House during the last week of the season. I didn't even get to share it with my Dad. Fuck this.
Delany should also know his history. Duke and Carolina have played at least twice, occasionally 3 times a year (if they meet in the ACC Champ Game, which is 80 years old btw) for nearly 100 years. THAT'S ALREADY PART OF THEIR TRADITION!
The only thing close to what they want to do is to consider the Big12's handling of Oklahoma and Nebraska. I'm pretty sure what everyone would prefer given a do-over there.
...that's BASKETBALL -- a totally different sport with totally different traditions and customs. What's next? "Well, this marketing strategy really paid off in the Bundesliga..."
because when you say "Big 12" what you really mean is "Texas and the schools that do whatever UT says".
Texas doesn't care about Nebraska (obviously, which is why they bolted) and already slotted OU into secondary-rivalry territory, so what happened to the OU-NU rivalry was irrelevant to it and thus to the conference.
Perhaps I'm glossing over some of the details, but that's how I understand things to work in that area.
Why can't we still play OSU in the last game of the regular season? If we have to play them twice in a row once a decade, or even every bleeping year, so be it.
Doesn't everyone remember that this is what most Big Ten fans, schools and administrators were fulminating for in 2006? We were united that two games in a row between worthy opponents was just fine and dandy in determining a champion (since the second game would be on a neutral site). Why would anyone disagree with it now? This is not a rhetorical question.
As for the competitive disadvantage, I figured only your division record would count, no?
... back-to-back is worse for TV revenue, and (less meaningful) cross-division games really should be played before division games. A lot of the time, the championship teams would be decided before UM-OSU played, which would be kind of anticlimactic.
All FBS conferences use "overall conference record" for determining standings. Years back, the MAC used division record only, but they have since joined everyone else.
It's depressing that they're talking about this as if it's a done deal. Here's the letter I sent to Brandon and Smith (OSU AD):
Mr. Brandon and Smith,
I'll try to be brief:
1. There is a special urgency to the last game of the season. Last year, even though it was an off-year for Michigan, they knew bowl eligibility was on the line in The Game. Had that game been in October it would have been seen as: "a down Michigan team versus a decent OSU team, so what."
2. Cross-division games are less meaningful than in-division games. Losing to a good cross-division team is not a big deal, as it does not prevent one from running the table in one's division and getting to the conference title game.
3. The last 20 years of Big Ten historical data suggest that Ohio State and Michigan would each be about 1-in-3 shots to win their division if separated, and about 1-in-10 to 1-in-15 to meet in the Big Ten title game. (Oklahoma and Nebraska met in one Big XII title game in 14 years. Miami and Florida state have yet to meet in an ACC title game.)
Because of (1) and (2), an October cross-division version of the OSU-Michigan game is about as meaningful as Michigan-ND. It's an interesting game between perennial powers, but it is far less meaningful than The Game is now. And -- this is the important part -- it is also far less meaningful than The Game would be if it were a season-ending division decider.
Nine years in ten, that less meaningful (October cross-division) version of The Game will be the only one that is played. Is it worth taking that hit, in return for a once-a-decade shot at meeting in the title game? That does not seem to be a good trade, to me. You will be recruiting kids who were in kindergarten the last time OSU-Michigan "played for the Rose Bowl" -- they will know OSU-UM as something less than what UM-PSU is today.
I still believe a Michigan-OSU game will get top ratings no matter the circumstances, but who am I to argue with stats.
The way I see it, the rivalry has had significance over the years for three reasons: beating OSU, sealing up the Big Ten, and sealing a Nat'l Championship berth. With realignment, you can trade sealing up the Big Ten for sealing up your division (yes, even if they split up) and kinda sorta retain the Nat'l Championship significance. But only if you play the game when the stakes are the highest possible.
I still prefer keeping them in the same division, but playing in the middle of the season is what I consider unforgivable.
edit: "sealing", not just "winning"
sat in south end zone. rushed the field. tore down north goal posts.
that was my UM baptism, so i cannot be objective about this.
it ain't broke. don't try to fix it please.
Also: If it ain't broke, don't rape it with a broomstick.
That Michigan and Ohio State will most likely never play in BSC games in the same year? Its hard enough to get in, knowing that one team will have at least 1 loss. If they play again in the Championship game, then they another loss shared between the two of them almost gauranteeing they both won't go to BCS games in the same year. With at large bids chosen based on fans as much as anything, you think you would want to avoid this.
Brandon, too. This is crap. In a way, it hurts more than some of the stuff that has gone on of late.
My freshman year was 1996. Among my new friends in East Quad, I was far and away the biggest football fan. I was the only one who'd played the game in high school, the only one who hadn't missed a Michigan game on TV in years. My new friend, Ryan (who is now Godfather to one of my children), had given up on the team after a few losses meant we weren't going to the Rose Bowl.
I tried to convince him that didn't matter, that the Ohio State game, even if we had lost the rest of the games, had the power to redeem an entire season. That three perfect hours could - and would - make or break an entire year. I tried to explain to him that, as a player, this is one you live for, that one moment - not one season, but just one fucking moment - when you can be a hero on the greatest stage in sports. And that stage is not the greatest because it is the shiniest or newest, but because it is old and cold and the same stage on which thousands of players have fought the same battle every year for decades.
He watched that game with me. And believed. We drove to Pasadena together the next year.
That was the mid 90s in a nutshell. Fight through a four loss season, upset Ohio State at the end of it, rejoice! Who knows if Carr even gets to stick around for 97 if he didn't salvage 95 and 96 with season ending upsets over Ohio State. I am just as disgusted by this as everybody else here, and I there is nothing Delaney or Brandon can say that will change my opinion of it.
hes like the grinch, satan, and monty burns all rolled into one cantankerous bald man.
How this can be seen as good for the Big Ten, good for the rivalry, I'll NEVER figure out. Put them in the same damn division and keep it at the end of the year.
I don't march. I don't picket. But man, I'd have to consider being a part of a mob if/when this happens.
Brandon has either happily stabbed UM fans in the back or helplessly let the other presidens roll him on this. So he's either a traitor or a Frenchman. Nice way to define you legacy.
the wordl's gone nuts
I'm living in the fucking bizarro universe. Corporate money-based decisions are blurring peoples' minds and UM and OSU fans are in agreement that it's total BS.
I was on the fence on this issue until I read Brian's post. Once you read it (please read it Dave Brandon) the issue is clear. If you want to preserve the essence of college football...... if you want to honor tradition....... if you want to keep college football the best sport in the country....... you must put Michigan and OSU in the same conference and have them play in the last game of the regular season.


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The trial for a man accused in the 2012 stabbing deaths of a Lockport woman and her two young daughters has been delayed until next year.
The trial for a man accused in the 2012 stabbing deaths of a Lockport woman and her two young daughters has been delayed until next year.
David Brown, 36, of Houma and Texas, is charged with three counts of first-degree murder for allegedly stabbing Jacqueline Nieves, 29, and her daughters, 7-year-old Gabriela and 20-month-old Izabela, Nov. 4, 2012, in their apartment.
Proecutors are seeking the death penalty.
Brown was originally scheduled to stand trial Sept. 29, but that date has been changed to April 20.
Lafourche Parish District Attorney Cam Morvant II said Brown is on his second set of attorneys, and the trial was postponed because the defense requested more time to work on the case.
New Orleans-based attorney Kerry Cuccia and his Capital Defense Project of Southeast Louisiana team are representing Brown. They took over the case in late November.
"Every time a trial is set, we treat it as a date we need to prepare for," Cuccia said. "When it became obvious that the September date was not going to work, we went back to the court."
Cuccia said Brown's case will involve a large amount of evidence, from DNA to crime scene reconstruction.
"The approximately nine months that we've had to prepare were simply not enough for a case of this stature," he said.
Cuccia said the money for expert witnesses in the case comes from the state Public Defenders Office, which allots $600,000 annually for expert witnesses in cases throughout Louisiana. The experts are not allowed to work until money is approved for a case.
The Nieveses' bodies were found at their apartment during a fire, which Lafourche Parish deputies said was set to cover up the killings. Detectives believe Brown also sexually assaulted Jacquelin and Gabriela.
Brown denies involvement and has pleaded not guilty.
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Tottenham Hotspur boss Harry Redknapp has heaped praise on midfielder Scott Parker and admits he's delighted to see the 31-year-old get his rewards at international level.
The former Charlton Athletic, Chelsea and West Ham United star broke into the national side on a regular basis under Fabio Capello after the 2010 World Cup in South Africa, replicating his club form for the Three Lions on a consistent basis.
Having switched Upton Park for White Hart Lane last summer, Spurs fans have seen the very best of Parker at the heart of the midfield in north London, and Redknapp is confident he can do a similar job for the national team.
"It's only been the last couple of years that [Parker] has been given the opportunity to play at international level, and he's grabbed it with both hands," the Spurs manager told Sky Sports News.
"He now looks an established player for England. He's had a great season at Tottenham, he was a fantastic signing for us. The job he did was amazing, the fans love him.
"He gets after the ball, he wins it, he closes people down, he shuts off passing avenues for the opposition, he's an all-round midfield player. The one thing he doesn't do is score goals, but he plays a more holding role."
With just three days to go until England's opening match against France, Redknapp believes it's a midfield combination of Parker and Gerrard that could be key to success in Poland and Ukraine.
After Frank Lampard and Gareth Barry were ruled out through injury, Roy Hodgson's options in the centre of the park dramatically shrunk, but the former Portsmouth boss believes England have two great players in the position who can complement each other well.
"I think he will complement Steven Gerrard well because Steven likes to burst forward at times and Scott will hold in there and protect," added Redknapp.
"When England beat Spain at Wembley, we were under the cosh for most of the game but Spain didn't create too many chances even though they had a lot of the ball, and Scott was instrumental in front of our back four, shutting people down and closing balls into front men.
"He will do that job for us. He brings a strong base to the team. I think Scott and Steven Gerrard are going to be massive, they are going to be key."
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Take a peek into driest inhabited continent on the planet as Nature at 7 p.m. Sunday explores the Australian outback as a amalgamation of pelicans migrate once every ten years in the midst of flooding to feed on washed up crustaceans and raise as many families as possible before the water and the food disappear once more.
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American Experience at 8 p.m. Monday tells the story of First Lady Dolley Madison whose political acumen helped legitimize the nation's new capital and set her apart in a time when women held no overt political power.
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The Music Man: Bill Reichert named 'Citizen of the Year'
This year, at the Broken Bow Chamber of Commerce's Annual Banquet, Bill Reichert was named Citizen of the Year. An award he will admit, he wasn't expecting to receive. As a band teacher for Broken Bow for 37 years now, he now finds himself teaching the children, and sometimes grand-children, of the first students he taught here. A man dedicated to music, he has shared his love and commitment with many people in the community. Reichert grew up in Harvard in a musically centered family. His mom played the piano and the guitar and by the third grade, Reichert was taking piano lessons. They spent time singing together and Reichert was in band throughout school. Reichert majored in music at the University of Nebraska at Kearney. He spent three years teaching in Exeter before he began looking for a larger school. While in college he met some friends from Broken Bow so when the opportunity arose to apply here, he took it. Thirty-seven years later, he is "Citizen of the Year." This award has several nominees each year. Reichert's nomination came in part from Peggy Keller and in part from Joyce Patch. Reichert keeps an active involvement in the community year-round. When he's not teaching school students the art of playing an instrument, he can be found directing the Custer County Choir, the Presbyterian Church choir or marching down the street with his students in the parade to kick of the Custer County Fair. Mr. Reichert also started the Broken Bow Band Olympics; an event he chaired for over 20 years. Each December he organizes Holiday Notes, and in September the Patriotic Cele-bration. The love Mr. Reichert shares for music is almost as catching as his smile. Listening to his percussion students practice for Tuesday's concert, director and students work to keep time and create a beat that makes the listener want to join in. From the letter Joyce Patch wrote for Mr. Reichert's nomination one can gain an appreciation for why he was given this honorable award. "Bill is one of those teachers who makes every child feel like he/she is the most special kid in his classroom. He knows how to make the child excel and do his/her best while still making it fun and 'cool' to be in the band." Keller said she was thrilled when she heard he received the award. "I just felt it was time Bill knew how much he was loved and respected by this community," she said. Mr. Reichert is active in professional organizations statewide, including serving as secretary for the Nebraska State Bandmasters Association and as Chair for Band Affairs for the Nebraska Music Educators Association. Mr. Reichert, still in awe at being given this title, was humbly thankful. "Thank you to the community for thinking so much of me and for supporting me these many years in Broken Bow," he said. Nominees for 'Citizen of the Year' included: Bill Reichert, Broken Bow Public Schools; Jeanette Denson, Custer Care Center; Donna Lawson, Central Nebraska Community Services; Carolyn Mohler, BD Pre Analytical Systems; Jeff Oeltjen, Dana F. Cole & Co.; Loren Taylor, Sargent Pipe Co.; RJ Thomas, Thomas Livestock and Nancy Young, Custer Care Center. Nominees for 'Business of the Year' included: Custer Care Center, Kids Kloset/My Kloset; Pamida; Schmicks Market and Tiffany Theater. ~~~ Nominees for Excellence in Customer Service - Individual included: Bob Davis, Pamida; Tammy Geiser, Pizza Hut; Jesse Goertz, UNL Extension; Doug Jones, Grocery Kart and Alissa Slagle, Runza.~~~ Nominees for Excellence in Customer Service - Business included: Farmers' National Dave Davis Auction; Grassland Veterinary Hospital; Grocery Kart; Pamida and Pracht's Ace Hardware.


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This summer marks an important moment in time for Mars Hill College. After 157 years as a college, we will transition to Mars Hill University in August. This is an exciting event and an important milestone for our staff, students, the Mars Hill community and Western North Carolina, as it is evidence of our emergence as a larger, more comprehensive institution of higher education.
But coinciding with our transition is a new concern for Mars Hill and for all North Carolina nonprofits in the form of potentially damaging changes to the state tax code. A new state sales tax on charitable, nonprofit organizations, including Mars Hill and other nonprofit colleges and universities in the state, is under consideration in the N.C. Senate. If enacted into law, it could significantly increase the cost of higher education.
As the oldest public or private institution of higher education on its original site in Western North Carolina, we have established a very clear strategic plan: We will strengthen our academic programs, offer more research opportunities to faculty and students, and establish new academic programs, specifically a bachelor of science in nursing. We also will create more opportunities for students to work as interns with local businesses and nonprofit organizations, providing real-world experiences that will make their transition to the workforce smoother and faster.
Finally, as a faith-based higher education institution, we are committed to fostering spiritual growth and faith exploration for our campus community. In short, we have ambitious plans to grow as a university and to enhance our offerings as a pre-eminent private university.
But as we plan for the future, we must take into account the tax reform legislation being debated in the General Assembly. As a charitable nonprofit university, one of 36 independent colleges and universities in North Carolina, Mars Hill receives tax exemptions in exchange for our commitment to invest our resources back into our educational mission. Current law requires us to pay and then apply for refunds of the sales taxes we pay for school purchases. Although the refund process is cumbersome, these funds help us limit tuition increases and keep Mars Hill more affordable than would be the case if the state kept our payments.
On the average, this has amounted to $250,000 per year for Mars Hill. These funds have been used for essential improvements in facilities without the costs being supported by a larger increase in student costs. Facilities have been improved by using local contractors and supplies. These projects have provided work for citizens of the region and purchases from local vendors. These funds have been returned to the WNC economy.
The General Assembly has made tax reform a top priority, and leaders have made clear that a new tax code is key to reviving the state economy, attracting new businesses and creating new jobs. The leading plans have a combination of tax increases and cuts, but there are significant differences between the House and Senate plans under review.
The House proposal preserves the tax-exempt status of charitable nonprofit organizations in the state; this is the right approach, one that I and nonprofits across the state hope the Senate will follow. Unfortunately, the Senate has proposed a plan to end the sales tax reimbursement for all charitable nonprofit organizations within a few years, and impose new taxes on services provided to the university and the other nonprofits. Over time, this could translate into a new tax bill of millions of dollars for Mars Hill University, a cost that would have to be passed on to students, and could require the elimination of university jobs and/or progresses.
The impact of the Senate proposal would be felt beyond our university, too. Over the next few years, all charitable nonprofit organizations, including churches, YMCAs, the Salvation Army, museums, arts councils and others, would be required to pay the new tax on goods and services. The net effect of such a tax proposal would be a diminished quality of life in Mars Hill and in WNC.
This is an exciting time for Mars Hill. We are eager to expand and meet the growing educational needs of the next generation of leaders in North Carolina and beyond. We need tax policies that will support us in this important endeavor.
I ask our state legislators to think carefully about the impact of the tax reform plans and to work with us to keep nonprofit higher education accessible and affordable for everyone.
Dan Lunsford is president of Mars Hill College.
New tax proposals would hurt nonprofits
This summer marks an important moment in time for Mars Hill College. After 157 years as a college, we will transition to Mars Hill University in August. This is an exciting event and an important milestone for our staff, students, the Mars Hill community and Western North Carolina, as it is evidence of our emergence as a larger, more comprehensive institution of higher education.


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Every four years, just as a presidential campaign kicks up, legions of media types who make their living outside the right-wing echo chamber emerge as a militia of Margaret Meads, descending on flyover country, trying to make sense of that exotic phenomenon, the religious right. In the end, those who actually get it are few.
From the attitudes shown by media toward the religious right, you'd never knowthat more than one-quarter of the U.S. population identify as evangelicals,
according to a 2007 survey by the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life, and among white self-identified evangelicals, 62 percent told Pew in 2006 that they believe the Bible to be the literal word of God.
These, by and large, are the people who determine the outcome of the Republican presidential primary, thanks to the early stacking of states heavily populated by evangelicals, and the propensity of most evangelicals to align with the Republican Party. And yet, we who cover these races often know very little about the voters whose person-on-the-street interviews they're recording, except to know that these people are very different from us in their view of the world. So as everyday doctrines come to light in one or another campaign incident, the media either find themselves aghast at the implications, or simply choose to ignore them.
Take, for instance, Rep. Michele Bachmann's profession of the doctrine of "wifely submission." When a 2006 video of Bachmann surfaced showing her at a church gathering professing her submission to her husband, media types grew quite excited. At the Fox News debate in Ames, Iowa, last week, Washington Examiner columnist Byron York asked Bachmann, "As president, would you be submissive to your husband?" Before Bachmann could speak, York's question was met with a round of boos and hisses from the audience, whose members likely heard in his question a challenge to one of their fundamental doctrines. (Bachmann, aware that she was playing to a national television audience, dodged the question, saying that she and her husband respected each other.)


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>I hope SunnComm (now called The Amergence Group), as despicable as its own efforts were, totally owns Sony BMG.
In dealing with product liability claims, which this is, you have the right, generally, to go after anyone in the chain of commerce you want. If they think someone else is at fault, they can cross-complain. This provision is good consumer protection.
For example, let's say you bought one of the famous inferno model Mr. Coffee makers at Sears. You take it home, take it out of the box, plug
It seems like they are bringing to the public light again. Most people I know have forgotten about this debacle (or never knew about it to begin with). If I was Sony, I'd try to bury the rootkit fiasco as much as possible, not have a large public lawsuit.
Seems like really bar PR. But then again, it IS Sony.
Saying that Sony should have been completely aware of the software specifics of a piece of code they brought from a third party, a piece of code that they were almost certainly not even allowed to review.
I've never worked for a company that would purchase an unknown product without first reviewing it. Especially when it is a large company like Sony doing the buying, and building it into products that they are selling under their own brand there is no way I can see that happening.
"Most people, I think, don't even know what a rootkit is, so why should they care about it?" — Thomas Hesse, President, Global Digital Business, Sony BMG Music Entertainment
Well, Tom, I think you're about to find out. Have a nice day, now!
Where the hell could they be hiding?
Next to Carl Rove's email folder on the rnc.org mail server?
how many more such companies will ever sign a contract with Sony again
Wow! Excellent point. Maybe NO company will ever want to put undisclosed root-kits in software for bigger companies (like Sony) because they'll fear litigation. Maybe Sony will never be able to get that kind of software from an outside company again!
Oh, wait, you didn't mean that you thought putting the fear of litigation into companies selling evil software was a bad thing did you?
You must be living in some sort of weird neighbourhood. It is considered normal around here, in the Anwar province of Iraq
What a pleasure to watch a fight between two assholes: in either case, you win!
Last fall, the company agreed to pay a total of $5.75 million to settle the litigation and resolve investigations by officials in several states.
Sony BMG is seeking to recover some $12 million in damages from the Phoenix-based technology company, according to court papers filed July 3.
$12 million > $5.75 million
Will the real victims here (the customers) see this extra cash?
The Sony Corporation
Making cash off of their customer misfortunes since 1946
If they sue MediaMax, this starts a ripple wave throughout the industry that scares off companies considering the DRM business only to discover the liability of your customer(s) suing you.
So this hampers development of DRM technology. What sane company would go into business with a mega-corp that ligitates their suppliers?
With DRM hampered, this reduces the effectiveness of copyright. Go Sony!
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The court order sent to the press by Psystar's law firm is relatively useless because it lacks any details or contextual information. Without this, the order is very hard to understand. Thanks to a Groklaw reader who attended the hearing, we can now put the court order in perspective and understand what it's all about.
The most important issue was a discovery dispute between the two companies about Phil Schiller's deposition, which was not satisfactory according to Psystar's lawyers. This issue was resolved - but not before public eyes. The matter was handled behind closed doors, so what exactly transpired will most likely never be known.
Another discovery dispute revolved around the lack of metadata for Apple's discovery documents. This metadata-less method was agreed upon with Psystar's previous law firm, but this was an oral agreement and no written record was kept. The judge was dissatisfied with Psystar for raising this issue so late in the game, and dissatisfied with Apple for not keeping a written record. It is now resolved by having both companies redo the 50 most important documents in Psystar's preferred method by Tuesday.
Another issue revolved around an engineer Apple hadn't listed who Psystar wanted to depose, but since Apple wasn't planning on listing him, Psystar couldn't depose him. This matter was resolved quickly.
This leaves us with the new lawsuit filed in Florida about Snow Leopard. Apple wants the two cases combined, but Judge Alsup was not very keen on that idea. Judge Alsup said combining the two cases, which should involve 30 days of additional discovery, including Psystar handing over source code regarding Snow Leopard, would postpone the trial date of coming January. In addition, Judge Alsup was afraid Apple could use it as an unfair delaying tactic. Still, if the Florida courts want to transfer the new case, Alsup said he would seriously consider it.
That's more or less it. A few interesting tidbits: Psystar's lawyer used an iPhone and a 13" MacBook. After the hearing, lawyers from both sides went out for a cup of coffee together.


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A silent auction of painted violins will be one of the highlights of Kishwaukee Symphony Orchestra's benefit evening, "KSO Goes to the Movies!" at 7:30 p.m. March 8 in Boutell Memorial Concert Hall in the Music Building at Northern Illinois University.
The hand-painted, salvaged violins are one-of-a-kind art pieces created by local and regional artists. Nancy Long, art teacher at North Grove Elementary School in Sycamore, painted a violin in the style of Vincent van Gogh's painting, "Starry Night."
"I decided to do the 'Starry Night' theme because of the curves and swirls in the design of the violin," she said.
Sycamore Middle School art instructor Anna Zantout drew inspiration from a few of the movie theme selections being played in the concert. Her violin is painted with the characters of Pink Panther, James Bond 007 and Spiderman. The auction also will include baskets and a table with items of children's interest. All proceeds will benefit the orchestra, a 501(c)(3) organization.
The family concert will feature music from movie favorites such as "Star Wars," "Harry Potter," "Lord of the Rings," "Apollo 13," "Les Miserables," "The Pink Panther," "West Side Story," "Batman," "Spiderman," and more, with selected movie clips. Concert patrons are encouraged to dress in costume as their favorite movie characters.
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On a Father's Love
She has written a followup piece, though, that probably deserves comment. It is about her father, and what his constant love did for her.
This piece, far more than the other, is a thing worth conveying to all who might hear it.
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I saw the headline a while back but never read the article.
Having read it, my first thought was "You have *got* to be kidding me!"
I liked the piece about her Dad, but was rather mystified by the first one. Women deal with other women who are prettier than they are all the time. In my experience, that doesn't make women dislike another woman.
Now if you have an attitude (such as, perhaps, writing an article about how amazingly gorgeous you are and how men fall all over themselves over you) then I would imagine it might be a tad bit offputting :)
- Grim said...
I found the reactions to the article a little mystifying. People were so focused on hating on her for not being as beautiful as she appeared to think that they were missing what I took to be the real point -- unless she was just making up all that stuff about free drinks and upgrades and whatnot, she really is having a significant effect on men in her environment.
That she may not be physically perfect should be an inspiration: it demonstrates that physical perfection isn't the sole factor in being beautiful and attractive to men. Contrast this with the way women tend to be encouraged (by the market, which wants to sell them stuff) to fear every physical flaw -- not having 'big enough' breasts, say. The claim of the market is that if you don't maximize your physical perfection, no one will really love you.
Here is some evidence that this isn't true. You don't need to be perfect. Men will still find you beautiful even if perhaps you are only modestly on the road to perfection, if you are confident and a source of joy and happiness.
The second story -- about the gift her father gave her -- is even better.
- bthun said...
"That she may not be physically perfect should be an inspiration: it demonstrates that physical perfection isn't the sole factor in being beautiful and attractive to men. "
I'll second that notion. And I'll add, as I've been known to do from time to time, that ugly may not be readily apparent on the outside, but it goes all the way to the bone.
- douglas said...
Perhaps those who responded with comments on her physical appearance were really responding on how they now perceived her in light of her comments. Even in the article about her father, she comes across to me as a bit cocksure, and speaks of it like it's a virtue. I tell my daughter she's beautiful (and so does everyone else), and she's about as naturally confident as it gets, so I find myself being more concerned that she not rely on external beauty and develop inner beauty, because sometimes nothing makes pretty turn ugly faster than opening ones mouth.
I don't know, I'm just from the school that it's not proper to go around acting like you're wonderful no matter what anyone else says. Keep in mind the old Irish proverb- 'If everyone says you're drunk, perhaps you ought to sit down.
What Douglas said :p
Wrt looks, I was pretty in an average sort of way as a young woman but I was more successful with boys than many of my gorgeous friends.
I think it was mostly being approachable - men really do take that into account. Often they won't approach an extremely beautiful woman at all for fear of being rejected. This is a sometimes mistaken, but mostly rational calculation that the odds of success diminish when you go after someone who's clearly out of your league, looks-wise.
As young woman, I quickly learned not to make eye contact with men who appeared to be interested in me unless in (in fact) wanted to be approached. As an older woman now, I don't have to worry about that so much so I make eye contact with men much more frequently in a casual setting and have been amused (and gratified) to see that most men will go out of their way to make a woman smile even if they have no intention of trying to pick her up. The other day at work I had 3 men line up to hold doors for me. This isn't at all uncommon and it's nice - they felt good, I felt good, everyone wins.
I attribute this to the eye contact and not to my looks.
- E Hines said...
That she may not be physically perfect should be an inspiration: it demonstrates that physical perfection isn't the sole factor in being beautiful and attractive to men.
Indeed. My oldest brother once gave me advice pretty much in line with this. It proved consistent, if not entirely valid, in high school, but after that bit of adolescence, I've never found it to be true in the world. The beautiful women I've known (as opposed to the children of high school) have all been sharp as tacks, and as wide ranging in social skills as those who bay at the moon and us men. Maybe times are different today than they were then, but it also seems to me that today's beautiful woman has had to work hard to overcome two or three damaging stereotypes, which often has the effect of personality development rather than simply trading on looks.
...she comes across to me as a bit cocksure, and speaks of it like it's a virtue.
As a great man once said, "It ain't braggin' if you can do it." Acknowledging one's own talent or favorable attribute can be a pure statement of fact, and nothing more. It's necessary to know the context of the statement and its purpose--and especially the latter can be hard to discriminate from a brag or from arrogance.
Eric Hines
- douglas said...
""It ain't braggin' if you can do it."
I suppose that's the issue- I couldn't disagree more. Or at least if it's not bragging, it may still be distasteful and uncouth. That could lead one to be found unattractive, to be sure.
Also, here she's not really speaking of a talent- she's speaking of something she's been given, and had to put only a normal effort in to achieve the results she seems to think are so worth crowing about.
We used to call someone like her 'full of themselves', or 'too big for their britches'. What ever happened to modesty as a virtue? Sure, confidence is a virtue as well, but as with most, taken too far it's no longer so.


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Gary Vercelli knew at an early age that jazz was his passion. "In high school, there was a 24-hour jazz station in Los Angeles, when commercial radio and jazz were not the oxymoron they are today," says Vercelli, Jazz Music Director for Capital Public Radio. "I used to listen to that station and think, one day, I'd like to work there." Eventually, he did.
While attending college at the University of California at Santa Barbara, Vercelli launched his radio career. "After graduating, I worked at KCRW, an NPR affiliate in Santa Monica," he recalls. "While I was there, I coordinated 70 hours of weekly jazz programming and produced a pilot for NPR's Jazz Alive! series." Vercelli then accepted a job at KBCA, the commercial jazz station of his high school days. During this time, he also served as the L.A. correspondent for Down Beat Magazine.
In 1980, Vercelli made his way to Sacramento as Jazz Music Director for Capital Public Radio. For the next 11 years, in addition to supervising the station's jazz programming, he produced and hosted Jazz International, a popular nightly jazz program. When Capital Public Radio added its second station with a jazz, news and information format in 1991, Vercelli easily assumed the role of music director. Before the News Station celebrated its fourth anniversary on the air, Vercelli had earned the distinction of "Jazz Broadcaster of the Year" by Gavin, a respected industry weekly. In 1993, the same publication acclaimed the station as "National Jazz Station of the Year."
In spite of the recognition, Vercelli gently cautions jazz aficionados about taking the music for granted. "Now more than ever," he says, "it's important for listeners to support the station."
When he's not on air or previewing music for the station, Vercelli enjoys visiting the Bay Area, cooking and yoga, which he has studied for more than 20 years. "I also have an interest in wines, which is diametrically opposed to my Yoga interest," he laments with a grin. "I guess I'm a classic example of east meets west."


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Some shellfish beds in Barnegat Bay are open once again.
The New Jersey Department of Environmental protection reopened beds Tuesday south of the Route 37 bridge in Toms River, extending to Oyster Creek in Lacey Township.
The beds had been closed since Oct. 29 as part of a statewide closure of all New Jersey shellfish beds to commercial and recreational harvesting due to concerns over degraded water quality caused by Superstorm Sandy.
All but two shellfish areas closed for the storm are now open. The exceptions are Raritan Bay (due to concerns with sporadic wastewater discharges from the Middlesex County Utilities Authority's Sayreville pumping station), and beds in Barnegat Bay from Oyster Creek south to Little Egg Inlet.
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I am getting prepared to teach a class on the difference between passive and active verbs. I want to know if there is a rule or how you decide when it is better to use one rather than the other. anyone have any advice? thanks for your time.
These should help:
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An exotic spin on old-fashioned chicken soup that brings the same nourishing, curative comfort we crave from it.
With the addition of coconut milk, edamame, rice noodles, carrot, ginger, lemongrass and cilantro – the homey, comforting flavors of chicken soup are kicked up a notch. Or two.
The coconut laden broth is the best part of the soup; rich, creamy and flavorful with a hint of citrus and a little zing thanks to the ginger.
Overflowing with tender strips of chicken, shredded carrot, twirly rice noodles and the succulent pop of edamame beans, you will instantly feel better. After the very first bite. Even if you were feeling perfectly fine to begin with. I'm convinced of its magical healing properties. In fact, I might even swear on it.
I've included the stove top version as well as a crock pot version, which I prefer for the tender chicken that results. You can turn this into a coconut curry by adding Thai curry paste to the first step of cooking the chicken. I also cook the noodles separately otherwise they will suck up all the luscious broth. If you have an aversion to fish sauce substitute soy sauce in its place.
The comforting flavors of chicken soup are kicked up a notch with Thai flavors including coconut milk, edamame, rice noodles, carrot, ginger, lemongrass and cilantro.
- To a large soup or stock pot add enough coconut milk to generously cover the bottom of the pot; add chicken and cook on medium heat 4-5 minutes. Add the remaining coconut milk, broth, edamame, carrots, ginger, cilantro, green onions, lemon grass, fish sauce and lime zest and half the juice. Season with a couple dashes of salt or soy sauce. Bring to a simmer and cook 30 minutes.
- Meanwhile cook rice noodles according to package direction. Remove lemon grass stalks from soup, stir in remaining lime juice and taste. Add more salt or soy sauce if needed.
- For serving add some of the cooked noodles to a bowl and ladle soup over top.
- Add all the ingredients to a large crockpot except the noodles. You can add the chicken breasts whole. Cook on high 4-5 hours or low 7-8. A half hour before serving remove chicken breasts to a plate and shred using 2 forks or chop into bite size pieces. Add chicken back to pot along with the lime juice and continue cooking on high for a 1/2 hour. Taste and season with additional salt or soy sauce. Meanwhile cook noodles separately, add a helping of cooked noodles to a bowl and ladle soup over top.
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Munich, Germany, June 8th 2009:
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- SCOTT Junior Trophy powered by MILKA at BIKE EXPO
- Trail show with Danny MacAskill
- BIG IN BAVARIA featuring the Who's Who of the global dirt jump elite
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Strategic partnership with ExtraEnergy e.V.
In cooperation with Extra Energy e.V., the highly regarded international market resource for LEVs (Light Electric Vehicles), BIKE EXPO presents its primary topic Pedelecs and E-Bikes. The ExtraEnergy TEST IT track promises to be a major show attraction where interested visitors can test Pedelecs and E-Bikes on an indoor as well as outdoor track. In addition, the event program includes a number of presentations and seminars, offered for the first time on the topic of "Pedelec/ e-Bike Tourism". www.extraenergy.org.
SCOTT Junior Trophy powered by MILKA at BIKE EXPO
BIKE EXPO offers a "don't' miss" highlight for young cycling sports fans: the SCOTT Junior Trophy powered by MILKA. On Saturday, July 25th, 2009, up and coming cycling stars can test their mettle in this popular children's race which features five age groups from 4 to 14 years old. The event will be held on an attractive track in the outdoor exhibit area of the New Munich Trade Fair. Following the successful launch of the SCOTT Junior Trophy powered by MILKA in Riva del Garda, and its continuation at the Sympatex BIKE Festival in Willingen, the BIKE EXPO in Munich with several thousand visitors expected and numerous program highlights is a perfect platform for the popular kids' race. Focus is on fun and anyone who has a bicycle and a helmet can participate. Registration form and details are available at www.bike-expo.com.
Trial Show with Danny MacAskill
BIKE EXPO proudly presents Danny MacAskil, the 23-year-old Trial biker from Edinburgh who was almost unknown before April of this year when the launch of a video clip on YouTube created a sensation. To date more than six million internet users have watched his spectacular bike footage (). Danny uniquely merges the mountain bike disciplines of Street and Trial, with high-tech trick elements usually only seen in the park or on dirt.
At BIKE EXPO the young Scotsman will provide proof of his exceptional balance and bike skills on a special Trial track with 20-minute shows that will include some of his most spectacular tricks.
BIG IN BAVARIA featuring the Who's Who of the global dirt jump elite
BIG IN BAVARIA will bring together the world's best mountain bike and BMX riders at BIKE EXPO in Munich from July 23rd to 26th, 2009. The biggest names from the international mountain bike and BMX scene have already confirmed their participation.
Name (Nation/Team)
Darren Pokoj (AUS/Felt)
Darren Berrecloth (CAN/Specialized)
Andreu Lacondeguy (ESP/Kona)
Lluis Lacondeguy (ESP/Kona)
Lance McDermott (GBR/Scott)
Sam Pilgrim (GBR/Diamondback)
Amir Kabbani (GER/Cannondale)
Andi Wittmann (GER/Giant)
Benny Korthaus (GER/Specialized)
Marius Hoppensack (GER/Scott)
Trond Hansen (NOR/Specialized)
Martin Söderström (SWE/NS Bikes)
Andrew Taylor (USA/Marin)
Cameron Zink (USA/Felt)
Greg Watts (USA/Gary Fisher)
Jamie Goldman (USA/Santa Cruz)
Paul Basagoitia (USA/Kona)
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Cameron White (AUS/Mongoose)
Corey Bohan (AUS/Giant)
Dave Dillewaard (AUS/GT)
Luke Parslow (AUS/Forgotten Bikes)
Ryan Guettler (AUS/MirraCo )
Alejandro Caro (COL/wethepeople)
Alex Dropsy (FRA/Twenty)
Nicolas Bertier (FRA/Dragonfly)
Patrick Guimez (FRA/Koxx)
Romuald Noirot (FRA/MacNeil)
Ben Hennon (GBR/Seventies)
Markus Hampl (GER/Twenty)
Chris Doyle (USA/Kink Bikes)
James Foster (USA/KHE)
Mike Clark (USA/Redline)
Rob Darden (USA/Haro)
TJ Ellis (USA/Vans)
BIG IN BAVARIA will satisfy even the most demanding requirements, not just because of its competitor list but the dirt track itself literally leaves any course dimensions known to date in the dust. More than 180 meters of track are waiting for the MTB and BMX riders to compete for a share of the 20,000 Euro prize purse posted for each discipline. In order to redefine the standards for BMX and MTB dirt jumping, the event planners are going all out on the course building and creativity to transform over 2,000 tons of dirt into a jump Eldorado, with jaw-dropping proportions such as an 8-meter-high starting tower and interesting elements such as parallel doubles.
To help the dirt jump professionals prepare and focus on the competition, an exclusive shuttle service is provided for them and their gear. The Volkswagen Commercial Vehicle Division is providing ten Multivans especially for the event.
The latest information on BIG IN BAVARIA, as well as links to rider profiles can be found at www.myspace.com/biginbavaria.
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