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by IwoCPO on 01/24/12 at 09:29 AM ET
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Courtesy of WIIM, let's take a gander at what this bitter little bitch had to say yesterday.
I really don't know why I even bother to waste energy on this report for tonight's opponent, the Detroit Red Wings. Nothing ever changes with these guys . . . they don't fight, even when they really should, and while you can sugarcoat it with as hard a candy shell as you can find, it reeks of a team that chooses not only to not be physical, but not to stand up for themselves either.
Well? Did that turn out ok for you? Was this fun?
No? Well, how about this?
Here's the thing, Blues fans..that was nothing. That was the norm for us, and it was the norm for you. Different year but the same damn story: Blues are rugged. Wings are soft. Blues grind it out, forecheck, make you "pay to keep the puck". Wings are too old, too brittle. No offense for the Blues. But soooo gritty. Yeah, ok. 21 shots on the best goalie in hockey and plenty of grit will get you a whole lot of nothing.
How is it that St. Louis can go through coach after coach, yearly roster turnover and multiple GM changes..but still make the same tragic mistakes against the one team they want to beat the worst?
Sound familiar?
"They took their game to another level and we didn't keep up to it,'' Blues forward Jamie Langenbrunner said. "We were reacting instead of initiating, and we started to take retaliatory penalties. You give them opportunities on the power play and it's going to cost you."
It's almost understandable. But not really. The Blues felt that they might be able to take some liberties with the Wings because the PP's been so very bad lately. So Hitch let loose the dogs of dumb. And oh my god did they pay. The funny thing, though, is that the tempers only really flared when they realized something strange was going on.
"The bottom line is it appeared to me that they felt they could be physical," Red Wings coach Mike Babcock said. "I thought we were physical right back."
See? Stu with a blast then a potful of stupid Stew with 17 minutes of dumbassery. Immediate result? PP goal. Why? Because it's the stupid Blues and they have no luck. None. Just when they think they've reached the golden equality they so starve for? They get the belt from big brother. And then they lose their minds. Completely. And they always have. Dumbest team in hockey. Dumbest fan base in hockey. A joke on two fronts. Right, Moose?
"I don't know if (the Blues) can tell the difference between a good hit and a bad hit."
Franzen there. He's laughing at you, St. Louis. Why? Because you don't scare him. Your record is nice but the Wings know precisely how to beat you. Precisely. Hold on. Wait for it. Absorb it. Take the power play and shove it up their ass. Or, even better? Initiate. Seek out somebody like Alex Pietrangelo and blast him into next week, then wait for the retaliation from a dumb team. Wait for it because they've been doing it for twenty years. And the Wings have been making them pay for twenty years. How's that knee, Pronger? Stevie treat you right big fella? Got the angle all wrong didn't you Sasquatch? The Blues don't learn. They never have. And it feeds right into a smart coach's game plan.
As Helm arrived on the bench, helmetless and evidently a bit roughed up, he got a fist bump from Johan Franzen, and two pats on the chest from Babcock, who purposefully made his way down the bench to express his appreciation.
And, 32 seconds later, the Wings had their second power-play goal of the game, and a win about as important as any that will come in January.
Boom, bitches.
We're all laughing, because Wing fans know what we've known for years. Detroit's got the talent advantage, the smarts advantage by a mile, and…woops…it's looking like the artsy Euros are just a tad bit tougher too, eh? Initiation is what that's all about.
And the biggest advantage the Wings have over the Bitter Bitch Bruised Babyshit Blues? James F. Tiberius Howard.
How good is he? Well, let's bring in an expert, shall we?
And that's why they're chanting "Jim-my Ho-ward!" in Detroit. Well, that and 30 wins with a 1.95 goals against average.
Speaking of which: Howard has 30 wins in 41 starts. The Red Wings have 33 games left. The NHL record for wins in a season is Martin Brodeur's, with 48 in 2006-07. Hmmm …
Great call Greg and what a fantastic achievement. I wonder, if Howard reaches such lustrous heights, whether he'd be considered a "top 5 goalie" according to Yahoo? Because, you know, we remember when he wasn't.
But today the talk isn't going to be about the saves or the shutouts, the GAA. No. Today's all about the Swagger and the fact that James Fuchin' Howard, when pressed, has no intention of maintaining anything other than the very strongest of pimp hands.
"I'm not going to be one of these guys they can just run over or anything like that. If I think it's a cheap shot, then I'm going to let you know."
There is no goalie you'd trade for in hockey. None. And the anti-Wing contingent can compile their stupid lists, massage the stats to their own agendas, create all star ballots that include FIFTEEN other goaltenders. But nobody's playing better and, holy shit, do Wing fans dig this kid.
Blues fans talk about "renewing a rivalry." Nope. Not without a playoff series. And, to tell you the truth I don't think they have the offense or the brains to even guarantee an 8 seed come April. But if they do? Bring it. There is nothing to fear from that team. Nothing.
Tough guys who shrink like a chilled nut sack at the first sign of pushback. Same old Blues, same old dumbasses. Same old result.
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Thanks, Chief - that went very, very well with my first strong cup of mud.
I feel so damn alive.
Posted by TeamDub from The gratch. on 01/24/12 at 09:55 AM ET
You couldn't have said it better, Chief.
Posted by journohoff from Detroit, MI on 01/24/12 at 10:40 AM ET
Speaking of which: Howard has 30 wins in 41 starts. The Red Wings have 33 games left. The NHL record for wins in a season is Martin Brodeur's, with 48 in 2006-07. Hmmm …
I'm no pharmacist, but according to my calculations JFH is on pace for 48 wins.
He's also first among all goaltenders with six penalty minutes.
Posted by monkey from Prague on 01/24/12 at 10:41 AM ET
Thanks, Chief - that went very, very well with my first strong cup of mud.
Sings…"you're the cream in my coffee…...."
Agreed, coffee, and a beat down from the chief, a nutritious breakfast.
Posted by Rdwings28 on 01/24/12 at 10:42 AM ET
The BBB's, redolenty repetitive & redundant.
Posted by Rumbear from Top O the Hasek, Czech out my recliner..... on 01/24/12 at 10:53 AM ET
He's also first among all goaltenders with six penalty minutes.
Posted by monkey from the morel high ground on 01/24/12 at 07:41 AM ET
Our Jimmy has a mind of its own, I tell ya.
Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 01/24/12 at 11:06 AM ET
I have been a Red Wings fan for 40 some years and have never heard a goalie serenaded on home ice like that . Good on you JTH.
Good mornin to you MCPO. Once again it's a great day to be a Wings fan.
Posted by cigar_nurse from On The mend for next season Greenville Pylons on 01/24/12 at 11:23 AM ET
Don't you love the way the Wings FIGHT?
Stuart was attacked, took a second to get pissed, and then got on top of Stewart and pounded him.
Helm scrapping like a bandit, then tying up 2 of the bastards…penalty to them.
Howard coming out of his net and pounding everyone in sight! (While Lidstrom strategically holds back a bruiser)
I love it.
A Babcock team.
Posted by w2j2 on 01/24/12 at 11:23 AM ET
The best part of the night was Babcock telling Pierre McGuire to take a flying forkin leap, because he had work to do. That plus the look on McGuire's face was priceless. Love to have that on an endless loop.
Posted by Hootinani from the parade following Babs out of town on 01/24/12 at 11:42 AM ET
Brad Stuart..
Man, you have to love this guy….
Comes off the ice after getting attacked ... and beating down his opponent…
and he has a big sh*t - eating smile on his face!
Posted by w2j2 on 01/24/12 at 11:52 AM ET
Almost the greatest way to start the day, an excellent win last night and a bitchslap (not the good kind) in the morning. Smooth seas, MC.
A couple of things that are painfully obvious, I am sure.
1. The Wings scored twice on the PP. My limited memory cannot tell me how long it has been since that happened.
2. DET won in spite of another absurdly slow start. I can only imagine the beatdown they could put on any opponent if they ever decide to play 60 minutes.
Posted by Jeff OKWingnut from Quest for 12 on 01/24/12 at 12:04 PM ET
I feel so damn alive.
Posted by TeamDub from The gratch. on 01/24/12 at 06:55 AM ET
Dub, were you lifting weights getting siked up (spelling intended) for the game again? I know I was.
Posted by Nathan from the scoresheet! on 01/24/12 at 12:05 PM ET
Well said, Master Chief. People think that physical play means fighting. Yet is was the Wings who were the more physical team last night. Helm flying around and hitting people left and right, Stuart laying down a hit or two, Jimmy! taking on all comers, Dats loosing his helmet. But as the Mule said, there is smart physical play and dumb physical play. The Blues are the definition of dumb.
And as far as Howard goes, he seriously needs to be in the Vezina conversation. But he won't, because he wears red.
Posted by HockeyFanOhio from Central Ohio on 01/24/12 at 12:22 PM ET
I said it repeatedly last night Master Chief.
The Blues want to act like a physical team, and be known as one. But when the opponent hits back, they're really just sissies and they wilt. They don't want to get hit, and they'll do what they need to do to avoid it and shy away from it. Detroit manned up their level, and St. Louis couldn't.
Guys like Helm, Stuart, Miller (who once again did everything required and more, but probably will once again get forgotten by everyone, even though he's 180 soaking wet), Abby, and a handful of others (Bert, Pavel, etc) made them pay last night. They got right in their faces, and hit em'. They knocked the absolute crap out of that overrated little maggot Oshie repeatedly and, despite all the tough talk after Stewart going after Stu.. not a single Blue stepped up. The Wings were told "Go ahead and repeatedly run over one of our smaller scorers, we don't want none…" at that point.
They chickened out. They're yellow. When it got tough, the "tough" ran away like scared little girls and had drama queen meltdowns where they slashed sticks out of guys' hands 15 feet into the air and took penalties.
They Wings beat them physically. They beat them on the scoreboard And they beat them mentally.
And, to remind our friends at Lame Time, THEY BEAT THEM ON THE SCOREBOARD.
St. Lose in the end is really nothing more than a bottom 4 West playoff team that'll be bounced in the first round, possibly swept again thus continuing the cycle of not winning a single playoff game in the Cap Era (in illustrious company there… company like Columbus and Atla-err, Winnipeg).. They have no depth, no composure, and no clue. And no amount of donuts will give Hitch the energy or ability to teach them that.
Posted by Primis on 01/24/12 at 12:41 PM ET
That was a great game to watch. Gotta love James F.T. Howard getting pissed off and getting the chant from the crowd. Great stuff as per usual Master Chief!
Posted by bdos from Columbus, OH on 01/24/12 at 12:45 PM ET
Tough guys who shrink like a chilled nut sack at the first sign of pushback.
F'ing hilarious.
I love the taste of coffee through my nose.
Posted by Bill from GR on 01/24/12 at 12:51 PM ET
Dub, were you lifting weights getting siked up (spelling intended) for the game again? I know I was.
Of course.
Blaring Nickelback and chugging Muscle Milk mixed with Red Bull.
Posted by TeamDub from The gratch. on 01/24/12 at 12:53 PM ET
"...the dogs of dumb…"
My new favorite description of the St.LoserBlues.
You know, I don't care one bit how much love James F. Tiberius Howard gets from the league or the media. What has my heart swelling this morning is how much love James F. Tiberius Howard is getting from the people who matter - his teammates and Red Wings fans. Really, there is serious love for our goaltender going on here, and doesn't that add to the excitement of this season more than anything else?
James F. Tiberius Howard - who'd a thunk when he came up a couple of years ago?...
Posted by MsRedWinger from the State where Tigers roam in the Spring on 01/24/12 at 01:00 PM ET
I read where some pharmacists did a study, and found that the two biggest factors that influenced future success were high intelligence, and excellent self control.
Which pretty much explains the situation (and results) in St. Louis, if you ask me.
Posted by dougie on 01/24/12 at 01:03 PM ET
You said it! Chief!. The Wings out played, out thought, out muscled and out scored those other guys. Matt Cooke, who knows a thing or two about physical hockey says the Red Wings physically beat the crap out of you.
Soft Europeans, may ass.
Anyway, I have been following the Beloved Red Wings since 1946. I have not seen them have such great goal tending since Terry Sawchuck in the mid 50s. Howard gives the appearance of an unbeatable goalie most nights. Think about what I am saying. Think about the great goalies who have worn the winged wheel in between Sawchuck and Howard.
Posted by DocF from Now: Lynn Haven, FL; was Reidsville, NC on 01/24/12 at 01:09 PM ET
Stuart looked to have dropped his gloves first, so I'm nut sure it was an "attack". More like Stu knew the BBB bonehead was coming for him so might as well give him what he was looking for kinda scenario.
Posted by MOWingsfan19 from I really like our team on 01/24/12 at 01:10 PM ET
I watched the game on FSD and didn't see the NBC broadcast. Can't believe I am asking this, but does anyone have a link to the Babcock-McGuire interview?
Posted by Bent from The U.P. on 01/24/12 at 01:28 PM ET
17 minutes of dumbassery
so succient and yet so dammed funny.
Posted by Down River Dan on 01/24/12 at 01:32 PM ET
Think about the great goalies who have worn the winged wheel in between Sawchuck and Howard.
Ummm… realistically…. not a lot. Detroit has not been a home for goalies, so much as it has been a winter rental often (Hasek, Cujo, Legace, Vernon). The DET goalies I grew up watching had names like Cheveldae, Hanlon, Stefan, St. Laurent… Cheveldae may have been an All-Star one year, but… he was not a goalie we speak fondly of or anything.
Consider this: Tim Cheveldae is 5th all-time in goalie wins. Tim. friggin'. Cheveldae. Never a good sign for a franchise as old as the WIngs.
Jimmy's 105 career Wins puts him 8th already on the list. For perspective, he's already passed Rutherford for Wins and Shutouts, and is chasing guys like Legace and Cheveldae and surpassing them probably early next season.
Posted by Primis on 01/24/12 at 01:34 PM ET
Just like the Blues in the mid nineties…
Just like the Dive after them…
Just like Vancouver in 02'...
Just like Anaheim in the mid aughts…
Just like the Blues now….
...You think you can push the Wings around and they'll go away. But they'll never stop. Lock up your wives and lock up your kids little brothers, because there's a Russian Nightmare coming for you with his Midget Pimp. And they won't stop until your virgins lose their flowers and you find yourselves on the putting green. The Winged Wheel is crushing the opposition under foot, and as of last night the NHL is on notice.
I'll never get tired you watching you tear down BBB fans, Chief. Thanks for starting my day of right!
Posted by bezukov from the kids are alright. on 01/24/12 at 01:48 PM ET
@ Bent
Posted by newb from above the bridge on 01/24/12 at 02:03 PM ET
Nice Chief.
That game last nite I believe sends a message to the rest of the league. Watch out. You too Gary.Ass.
Posted by Jeff from CO. on 01/24/12 at 02:17 PM ET
Video of babcock interview here…
Posted by puckinthehead from thunder bay on 01/24/12 at 02:23 PM ET
it's very difficult to focus on the interview with that rack staring back at me.
Posted by PaulinMiamiBeach on 01/24/12 at 02:24 PM ET
what on Earth drove me to Google "boobs behind Babcock" I will never know, but I found this…
Welcome to Boobs Behind Babcock.
Have you ever been watching a Red Wings game, or several, and something seems familiar? Well guess what? Something is familiar, a huge rack behind our favorite head of hair, Mike Babcock.
Some call it a conspiracy, We call it Boobs Behind Babcock.
Welcome, and please, if you have a picture of some Boobs, behind Babcock, Add them to the site!
We plan on expanding to Coaches And Cans, so if you have photos of your favorite coach from any other team with some mammaries behind them…upload away.
Posted by PaulinMiamiBeach on 01/24/12 at 02:29 PM ET
I was just watching a rerun of last nights "NHL Tonight", or whatever they call it.
Would it actually KILL an announcer to praise Datsyuk, WITHOUT some qualifier?
Might I suggest "The best player in the world today?"
Not "Datsyuk, along with Malkin, may be the best players in the world."
Not "Datsyuk, and Crosby, when he's healthy, are the best players in the world."
It's like telling your wife, "Honey, I think you are beautiful, but your sister's pretty hot, too."
Posted by dougie on 01/24/12 at 02:32 PM ET
Beautiful. As close as Babcock has ever come to an STFU to the NBC crew.
Posted by Bent from The U.P. on 01/24/12 at 02:37 PM ET
Posted by dougie on 01/24/12 at 11:32 AM ET
Oh, but Datsyuk is no Backes. Just ask the Bloser fans… Backes is the best forward in the league today!
After all, what says Best Player in the League like shrinking away and disappearing with an important game on the line?
Posted by Primis on 01/24/12 at 02:44 PM ET
Oh god, have you guys SEEN the "silver lining" Blose fans are trying to come up with over on Lame Time?
The claim is that by saying the Wings kicked it into playoff mode and crushed the Blose, that we're somehow putting them in the same company as the Bruins or Hawks, whom the Wings also did the same to.
Umm, yeah. have fun with that.
Don't know who Maria is, but she's my hero for the day for this response:
i wasn't aware there was something called a "blues fan" and I had no idea they were so damn sore."
Wake me when the Blues win a playoff game. IF the Blues win a playoff game. Ever.
Posted by Primis on 01/24/12 at 02:52 PM ET
Welcome to Boobs Behind Babcock.
Posted by Rumbear from Top O the Hasek, Czech out my recliner..... on 01/24/12 at 03:05 PM ET
Posted by PaulinMiamiBeach on 01/24/12 at 11:29 AM ET
My new favorite Facebook page.
Posted by Primis on 01/24/12 at 11:52 AM ET
You know you own a team when all they can do it try to measure up against us.
Posted by bezukov from the kids are alright. on 01/24/12 at 03:12 PM ET
I still think we're being a bit harsh on the Blues, which is totally okay but when we say "You won't win a playoff series" let's face it, right now they're matched up with Chicago in a 4/5 seed battle and I think they can take 'em.
Though I'd much rather face Chicago than St. Louis in the second round or WCF, just because of the goonery some of these big bodied brutes with bad tempers have the potential to do once they get embarassed. Stewart actually played the game in such a way as to make the Phoenipeg Jetotes or the Anaheim Duh-ucks look like smart teams. Ridiculous. I hate those last few minutes when we embarass teams like that and they get all "message-sending" on us.
Posted by Sullyosis from A hateful lair in Post Apocalyptic US (or Arizona) on 01/24/12 at 03:19 PM ET
Oh god, have you guys SEEN the "silver lining" Blose fans are trying to come up with over on Lame Time?
I like to refer to that particular blog as the Scottrade Bathroom. The level of discourse over there is akin to what you would find scrawled on an arena bathroom stall, it stinks of urine and farts, and the residents get excited when they see a glory hole.
Posted by WingsFaninCO on 01/24/12 at 03:19 PM ET
Oh *#$%@& I'm famous.
Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 01/24/12 at 03:20 PM ET
Best summary of the Blues' play comes from one of their own.
Blues forward Jamie Langenbrunner said. "We've played with them in stretches. But in the end, we've kind of crumbled when the boys got a little rough."
And I'm still laughing at Babcocks comment: "The bottom line is it appeared to me that they felt they could be physical…"
Just hilarious.
Posted by OlderThanChelios from Grand Rapids, MI on 01/24/12 at 03:20 PM ET
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LEMONT – Lemont is host to many car shows during the summer, but the LasRyds Hearse Club will put the focus on a unique category of classic vehicles this weekend.
The club (pronounced "last rides") will hold its Greatest Show Un-Earthed from 10 a.m. to 6 p.m. Saturday in the Talcott Square parking lot, Stephen and Talcott streets, Lemont.
Besides the hearses, there will be themed vendors, carnival games, a costume contest, charity raffles and other entertainment. Proceeds from the raffles will benefit the Hope and Friendship Foundation.
Troy Hambly, founder of the club, said membership is made up of more than people who like the cars for being spooky and morbid.
"Probably a majority are what we call 'haunters,'" he said. "Other people like them just because of the cars."
Hambly also said most members are not in the funeral services industry, although he operates a funeral home in Plainfield.
"For me, it's just because they are unique," he said. "I was actually a hearse collector long before I got in the business."
To Hambly, hearses are good classic cars because they are custom-built and relatively cheap.
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Hambly owns an 1890s-style horse drawn hearse, a 1926 Chrysler, 1947 Rolls Royce and a 1994 Chevrolet.
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Peters also appreciates hearses and wants to own one.
"Hearses are a beautiful car," she said. "And most of the time you don't get to appreciate it because, if you get up close to one, they're putting someone you love in it."
Peters said other business owners have shown a "tentative excitement" for the event.
"When I first approached the Chamber president with this, she was all for it," she said. "When she pitched it to the Chamber, they said 'You want to do what?'"
Hambly said reactions to the hearses range from "they're gross" to "those are kind of neat." He also has met people who hated the idea of a hearse but are now owners.
Peters and Hambly also are focused on keeping the event family friendly, particularly with the haunters.
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McKinney reframes the issue.
Her goal, however, was to merge her legal problem with the larger issue of racial profiling. Expose the Left and other bloggers may ridicule her for this, but they are not her audience. She was, in fact, somewhat successful in reframing the issue, in my opinion (and I'm sure her target audience is much more willing to accept the reframing than I am).
Her main point was that the Capitol Police are supposed to recognize everyone's face. The identifying pin cannot be enough to justify waving members of Congress past security, because it could be faked. Now, it's quite clear to me that she should have stopped when asked and certainly not hit anyone, but I can understand her being irritable about the subject of not being recognized. There is the well-known problem of white people thinking it is hard to tell black persons apart, and she's entitled to be touchy about that. She says there have been incidents in the past where she has been taken as the assistant to someone much younger than her when that younger person was white and male. I'm not black, but I am female, and I know a little something of the kind of experiences she's had.
Blitzer put up an old and a new photo of her in which the only thing that is different is her hair, and it is very different. But security personnel need to recognize faces, she says, and her face is very recognizable. That's true. There are few black female members of Congress: how hard can it be to learn their faces? Maybe they are hassling her because they don't like her, she suggests.
She's also sensitive about her hair, and hair is a traditionally sensitive topic too. They need to know my face, not just judge me by my hair, she says. I note that the old hairstyle was pulled back and restrained, while the new one is fluffy and natural. Did the new hairstyle alarm the police? If so, does that suggest that they are more easily alarmed by black people? I think it is likely that the police looked at the hair so much they didn't look at the face and missed their chance to recognize her, but in McKinney's reframing, the attention to hair is fraught with racial meaning.
Before you reject her presentation and go into some reflexive nattering about "the race card," you ought to try to think about how her arguments resonate with the people who vote for her. I think she accomplished what she set out to do when she decided to do the interview.
IN THE COMMENTS: Lots of discussion, but the most useful point, I think, is that the special treatment of members of Congress should end. The pin really isn't enough, since it can be faked. And now we know the pin isn't reinforced by much of a recognition element. And if the police have a special problem recognizing women (because of hairstyle changes) or recognizing black persons, that is all the more reason to change the security protocol. If you can't give all the members the same VIP treatment, stop giving them VIP treatment.
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- JSF said...
I have interned on the Hill; I have friends who work on the House side. Since she was skipping the metal detectors (and cutting in front of the public line, of course the Capitol Police might wonder. Evewry Congressperson, Senators and Represetatives, are given a pin to wear to distinguish them from the crowd. If she chose not to wear it, then the Capitol Police might wonder, who is cutting around the Metal detectors (there was a shooting in 1998 where two policemen lost their lives)? If she chose not to wear the pin because it clashed with her dress, that is the worst sin of all. That is politics of the vapid.
- al said...
She did reframe the issue. She has turned it from her ignoring the rules and being called on it to her being hassled because she's black. It will probably resonate well with those who vote for her.
Unless some new information comes out I beleve that Mckinney is at fault here. If she had any character she would admit she screwed up, make nice with the capitol police, and stop playing the race card.
And why do our elected officials get to bypass the metal detectors?
- Internet Ronin said...
I think she already accomplished what she set out to do when she avoided the line and caused the disturbance and that any further action (such as criminal charges) only serves to promote her and her cause.
- Maxine Weiss said...
No, Ann. NO NO NO NO NO.
Men are stopped all the time. You don't hear about it because they don't make a screaming scene over it.
She's got a cushy job with a lifetime pension and a free public forum. I'm supposed to sympathize with how difficult her life is.
Less ego, and more gratitude.
Peace, Maxine
- bearbee said...
Security guard should be fired for racial profiling...
- Icepick said...
There is the well-known problem of white people thinking it is hard to tell black persons apart, and she's entitled to be touchy about that.
I had always heard this, and I had wondered if it was true. (I am white, BTW.) It never really seemed to be a problem for me, especially since if anything blacks have more variation in their facial features than whites.
During graduate school I was a TA teaching College Algebra and Calculus, and I realized there was some truth to this. No, I didn't have any trouble distinguishing my black students from one another. It was a certain subset of the white students who were impossible to tell apart. The white frat boys and sorority girls were damn near clones of one another! It was incredible how much they looked alike. (Non-Greek whites were easy to tell apart by their hair-dye, piercings and tattoos.)
So, I now believe that some people have trouble distinguishing people of certain ethnicities. It's just in my case it's the ethnicity I belong to. Does anyone else have this problem, or is it just one more example of my freakishness?
- Icepick said...
And as for the McKinney case, I want to see the video before I really make up my mind about it. I'm inclined to believe she was at fault by being a pompous jerk, but that's my default position for members of Congress and the Senate. But let's see how the officer was conducting himself first. Then we can pass judgement.
- Truly said...
I wouldn't be surprised if this was a stunt to get herself back on the front page. There's no such thing as bad publicity, right? McKinney hasn't seen herself in the news lately, and creating a contretemps where she can claim victimhood would be just the ticket. As it has proven to be, it would seem.
- jeff_d said...
"There is the well-known problem of white people thinking it is hard to tell black persons apart, and she's entitled to be touchy about that."
Really? I don't think a person is entitled to be touchy about a racial stereotype, namely that some whites apparently can't tell some blacks apart. For one thing, it has no apparent relevance to the incident in question. In addition, it is simple bigotry--ascribing improper motives to one person based upon a stereotype supposedly applicable to a whole class of people.
Whatever the impact of Rep. McKinney's interview with her constituents, her reframing of the issue is dishonest racial pandering. Members of Congress--even Cynthia McKinney--ought to treat Capitol Police (their employees) with some modicum of courtesy regardless of whether perceived grievances against this or that racial group offer a tempting pretext to act like a spoiled child.
- tcd said...
What would the charge be if the Capitol Police had not stopped her and she turned out to be not a member of Congress but someone who intended harm? I say the police should get the benefit of the doubt not some self-important, overinflated ego.
Of course the reframing will work for her constituents. They were dumb enough to elect her in the first place.
- brylun said...
Of course it resonates with her constituency. But her constituency is different than most other Democrats.
There is a great benefit to the Republicans because it has overwhelmed all other issues (Dem national security plan, Tony Rudy lobbyist plea, etc.) Instead of taking a beating, Republicans are on the offensive. A resolution commending the Capitol Police is being prepared.
To some extent McKinney may be extracting revenge against Pelosi who refused McKinney's request to restore her seniority when McKinney returned to Congress in 2002.
Was OJ guilty?
- CB said...
I don't know, professor...based on what I've read about Ms. McKinney the past few days, I've concluded she's a crackpot egomaniac who does not deserve the benefit of the doubt.
"There is the well-known problem of white people thinking it is hard to tell black persons apart" I call B.S. on that.
- Gerry said...
Bah. There are over 500 members of Congress. It is not feasible for us to expect security personnel to recognize them all.
The procedures are in place, and they should be followed. She doesn't like that, but that's too damned bad.
"There are few black female members of Congress: how hard can it be to learn their faces? Maybe they are hassling her because they don't like her, she suggests."
And maybe they don't like her because she goes out of her way to be a pain in the ass to them.
Amazingly, the other few black members of Congress, including the female ones, don't seem to have the same sort of problems that McKinney does.
She reaps what she has sown.
As for her having somewhat successfully reframed the issue-- yes, she is a very accomplished race-baiter and demagogue. It should not surprise you that she did well what she always does and what she has tremendous experience doing.
- FXKLM said...
The difficulty in distinguishing people of a different ethnicity from the observer is well documented. I'm just not sure what McKinney would have us do about it. Should white guards let black people pass even if they can't be positively identified? If blacks are stopped more frequently than whites by Capitol Police, that's unfortunate and unfair, but it's clearly preferable to the alternative.
- Gerry said...
And yes, I think she accomplished what she set out to do-- foster racial strife for her own benefit.
Which, to my eyes, makes her one of the most repugnant members of Congress, if not the most.
- DRS said...
...Security guard should be fired for racial profiling...
Pulling black people (or anyone based on race) out of the security line to be frisked would be racial profiling. Stopping someone who cuts the line without proper ID is not.
Trying and make this incedent into one of profiling diminishes and trivializes all arguements against the practice.
- John Henry said...
This is sort of for JSF but anyone else who knows can answer as well.
I am curious about the pin as ID. Is this just a simple piece of jewelry as seems to be implied by most I have read?
Or, does it contain RFID technology to uniquely identify the wearer as I read somewhere?
If the former, I think it is a pretty poor security tool.
If the latter, it is much better, though these can still have problems.
The real question is why are Congresspeople so special. Perhaps if they had to go through the same processes we peasants have to face each day they would be a little more sensible.
She is a Congresswoman, not a princess.
John Henry
- Goesh said...
In all fairness to her, the police and voters, why isn't the security tape being aired??
- CatoRenasci said...
Ms. McKinney probably did successfully reframe the issue for her target audience, but that speaks far more to the gullibilty and wilfull ignorance of her target audience than it does to the force of her"arguments."
While I understand the point that it works for her with her target audience, I find it impossible to understand why serious person, or any person with half-a brain, should take the argument seriously or take Ms. McKinney seriously.
The best thing to do viz. a viz. Ms. McKinney is to laugh at her. The only thing the moonbat left, of which she is a charter member, cannnot stand is sustained ridicule.
- twwren said...
Stipulate that the capital police have a duty (in their job description) to recognize all members of Congress and that they did not recognize Rep. McKinney. That stipulation does not give her the right to ignore a lawful order and to assault a police officer?
And, where is the evidence of racial profiling? Has this criticism of the Capitol police been alledged before? It seems to me she is saying, "you cannot arrest me under any circumstance because I am black and I am a woman." Two cards played.
And who is the loser? The Democratic party. She has only been effective in reframing the issue form a personal persective.
- C. Schweitzer said...
It's embarrasing and politically incorrect to admit it, but I have a harder time distinguishing people of different races. I am an auditory learner and often also have a hard time even with white students that have too similar hair or builds.
It's a particularly embarassing trait as a teacher--since I disproportionately call students of different races by the wrong names and hand them back the wrong papers.
But I agree that trying to memorize 500+ people by site is unreasonable for a normal human being.
- TWM said...
The issue is not the failure to recognize her. The issue is that she should have stopped when he asked her to.
Sure, over time the officers should be able to recognize members of Congress, but that is something that can be handled by a complaint to management who would then work the issue through additional training or procedures that enhance this recognition.
And you wear your damn pin.
You don't ignore several warnings to stop and then hit an officer just because you are pissed he didn't recognize you.
Finally, my guess is McKinney never takes the time to get to know these officers. If she did, they would not only recognize her but enjoy seeing her -- engage her in courteous conversations and say hello and goodbye.
Heck, knowing her arrogant personality, I have no doubt she avoids eye contact with them and barely acknowledges their existance except as a bother to her when she enters the building.
No wonder they don't know her by sight. Who wants to?
As an aside, I don't think anyone should be exempt from the security procedures. Even armed plain clothes officers, while avoiding the metal detectors because, well, they are armed and it would go off, have to show some kind of ID.
Is that too much to ask of members of Congress?
- Bruce Hayden said...
John Henry
Congress has exempted itself from security getting into its own building. As noted above, the Capital Police work for them, and, thus, Congress can set any rules it wants for its own security.
I do think that she was able to reframe the issue with her constituancy, but not with anyone of pallor. What she is ignoring is that she isn't the only African-American to go through security accessing the Capital. After all, D.C. is heavily Black, and I expect that a number work at clerical, etc., jobs there. So, I expect this isn't a case of not recognizing one of a handful of Black Congresswomen, but rather one of the thousands of Black women who go through security there every day.
This is all conjecture. I have lived in D.C. and environ, and every other federal agency I ever visited there had large African-American contingents, esp. in the clerical, janitorial, etc. staffs. But many of the positions at the Capital are close to patronage jobs, with Congressmen and women hiring their own staffs - so with a largely White Congress, the percentage of Blacks is probably lower than in the rest of the federal buildings in D.C.
I do hope she gets censured.
- Ann Althouse said...
There are empirical studies about the difficulties of cross-racial identification. It's real. And the belief that it's real is definitely real and a source of pain that deserves sympathy (whether you think McKinney should be tapping into that sympathy or not).
Don't misunderstand me: I'm not going against the police. As I said here and in an earlier post on the subject, she should have stopped and identified herself. Security is important and you have to put that first during an incident.
This post is a response to Expose the Left's ridiculing of her performance in the interview. I'm saying she was competent and knew what she was doing and handled the interview well for her purposes.
Let's have a little more subtlety in the analysis. To those who just say "She's playing the race card," I say: You're playing the playing the race card card. Is that helping?
- Abraham said...
You're playing the playing the race card card. Is that helping?
- Thorley Winston said...
Bah. There are over 500 members of Congress. It is not feasible for us to expect security personnel to recognize them all.
Agreed and moreover there are thousands of other people who work for the 535 members of Congress as staffers plus tens of thousands of other people who have business at the capitol. I'd wager that more than a few of them are black and female.
It is simply unreasonable to expect members of the Capital Police to recognize every member of Congress by face, particularly when a member of Congress doesn't wear the one item that is supposed to distinguish her from the other tens of thousands of people going through the building each day.
- Freeman Hunt said...
There are empirical studies about the difficulties of cross-racial identification. It's real. And the belief that it's real is definitely real and a source of pain that deserves sympathy (whether you think McKinney should be tapping into that sympathy or not).
Why would this be a source of pain? It has nothing to do with racism and everything to do with the psychology of visual identification. (i.e. You are going to be most adept at picking up the visual cues that distinguish people of the race you are mostly around, and many people are mostly around people of their own race.)
We watch hundreds of movies from Hong Kong at our house. Whenever new people come over who haven't seen any of these movies, they often have a very hard time at first and cannot tell the actors apart. This is probably because hair is a major visual cue for some races, and most of the people in the Hong Kong movies we watch have straight, black hair. After a couple movies, the new people become adept at using other visual cues and suddenly none of the actors look anything alike.
I don't think that's racism. Annoying, maybe. But bred of ill will, no.
- Gaius Arbo said...
Did she reframe it? Probably. Was that smart? No.
The Democratic party leadership just shot itself in the foot. They should have come out firmly against her behavior from the start. Now they have sent a picture out to the center that people who are not competent to discipline one of their own, who behaves like a complete boor, want to run the country. Not going to sit well at all.
- nunzio said...
Why don't we test the guard who stopped her and see how the guard scores on the cross-racial-identification test? Let's also give McKinney a psychological exam b/c she's deranged.
I don't think she should be criminally prosecuted for this misdemeanor. But the House members should remove her from its body.
Delay can hold the door for her on their way out.
And Harry Belafonte can write a song about her.
And the NAACP can put her in its literature and raise money for the great injustice beset upon her and compare her to Rosa Parks.
Eveyone will be happy then, except for McKinney, I guess.
- Mike said...
"There are empirical studies about the difficulties of cross-racial identification."
So what? I have problems recognizing faces. All faces, regardless of race. I often don't recognize someone until they speak. I have no idea why this is, but I have struggled with it my whole life. And, also being a teacher, it doubly embarrasing. Is it appropriate for someone I didn't recognize to haul off and whack me?
Cynthia McKinney's attitude problem is well known, as are her race-baiting tactics. She is deserving of no consideration whatsoever in this latest incident. Tolerance, indeed!
- Ann Althouse said...
I agree that this story's prominence is hurting the Democrats. Here's a story on that.
- CB said...
I'll take your word on it and cede the point of cross-racial identification. I think it's tangential here, though.
"I'm saying she was competent and knew what she was doing and handled the interview well for her purposes." That is exactly what's so frustrating about the whole thing. I believe that her purpose is to gain favor among black voters by painting her opponents as racists. The way that democrats have bamboozled (I use the term deliberately) black voters drives me crazy, because it accomplishes nothing, and is to the detriment of blacks. The democrats depend on black turnout to win elections. They can get this turnout in two ways: by helping blacks, or by convincing them that republicans are racists. The latter is much easier, so they choose it. So the democrats do nothing for blacks, and they get their votes and money.
- Dave said...
"There is the well-known problem of white people thinking it is hard to tell black persons apart, and she's entitled to be touchy about that."
- JSF said...
John Henry,
The pin is just a regular pin (circular with an inlay of Member of Congress and within the final circle, a color of the Congress [i.e. 104th had red circles]and an Eagle within the color. They have been wearing them since the attacks on Congress and Truman in the 50's. As an earlier poster wrote, the House has more control over the Capitol Police then the Senate, so McKinney expected the rules changes for her alone.
- CB said...
In the spirit of bipartisanship, I should add that I think politically-motivated Christians are to the Republicans what Blacks are to the Democrats. They need their votes & money, so they paint Democrats as "against faith." But once the votes are cast, they have other priorities.
- FXKLM said...
I don't think it's appropriate to judge a politician's actions by whether they are politically effective. She's raising an issue that is completely unrelated to the issue of whether she did anything wrong for the purpose of distracting people from the real issue. Even if everything she says is accurate, the officer still did the right thing by stopping her and she still did the wrong thing by assaulting him. Her redirection tactic might be smart and effective, but it's still not right.
- me said...
She lost her cool. When she calmed down, she should have said she was sorry, and I doubt the Capitol Police would have pursued this.
The more she blames others, the more likely it will be pursued. She probably broke the law. Like I told my son who was in a bar fight, don't call the cops when you are drinking underage.
- Gerry said...
"I agree that this story's prominence is hurting the Democrats"
I also agree. You would think that, as a Republican, I would be happy.
However, it is nothing more than a silver lining in a dark cloud. The intentional stoking of racial suspicions, fears, and pains is bad for America, even if in this particular instance McKinney's demagoguery is actually good for Republicans.
- Henry said...
When Patrick Kennedy shoved an airport security guard back in 2001, he ended up apologizing in person and eventually paid an undisclosed sum in response to her law suit. At the time he looked like a huge jerk, but I think the incident has been pretty much forgotten.
I don't blame McKinney for making a mistake and maybe she's justifiably annoyed for some reason or another, but really, how is hitting a police officer ever a good idea?
- Maxine Weiss said...
Whoa, wait a minute....hold up:
Everyone looks alike, (no matter the race)... these days. Plastic surgeons are giving everyone the same face....White, Black, whatever. Men all have those same boring pointy-spiky hairdos. Women go the same hairdressers who only know how to do one look.
None of the races has variety, or individuality in their features. We've morphed into one single look for all.
And especially in Washington D.C. ...where conformity rules, and everyone dresses alike. Forget Blacks looking alike. I think there's a lot more variety and individuality in the Black race. It's Whites who wrote the book on same-ness and look-a-like clones.
Peace, Maxine
- HD_Wanderer said...
"They should recognize her face".
If the officer called her three times and she kept walking, it sounds like she had gone by him before he realized someone had bypassed the metal detector. In that case, did he ever see her face or was he running up behind someone he hadn't seen?
I'll wait to make up my mind until the video is released, but it sounds like she went by security too fast to be identified.
- PatCA said...
I agree with you, it's bad for everybody, except by now we are so inured to this race baiting that it makes the "victim" look bad instead. By the time the case is adjudicated the truth won't matter. She accomplished her goal, which seems to have been exciting the lunatic fringe of the race industry. What would the Al Sharptons of the world do without her?
- John Lynch said...
Surely the role of maintaining security has to come into play here. The guard are responsible for security. Someone bypassed security. They didn't take the person down with force. They halted the person until they got the identity; a restrained and reasonable approach to their duties.
If they did not recognize the person, and the person did not conform with rules (the pin,) and the person did not halt on request -- how else are they to react and fulfill their duty?
Under any circumstances, hitting the officer while in the reasonable performance of his duty has got to be an offense.
Otherwise, what are those guards doing there? What is the purpose of having security?
Stating that the guard should have recognized one of 525 representatives on sight is a fairly onerous requirement, and an unreasonable standard to hold for all security personnel.
Surely it is OK for the Congress critters to wear some form of ID and for Security - when they recognize - but not necessarily that they recognize - to allow bypass of normal security. Failing to identify a representative of Congress, they should halt them until they are identified. What other rules are possible?
- knoxgirl said...
What she's saying makes no sense. She says "to think that the security of congress depends on one's jewelry or hairstyle..." The officer ostensibly did not recognize her and took no chances by stopping her for ID. That makes her more safe, not less.
I agree with Gerry, her whole attempt to justify her ridiculous behavior by claiming racism is bad for the country, I don't care who benefits from it politically.
- Pat Patterson said...
She's sensitive about her hair? How about her weight? The surest way to never be considered a colleague is to resemble a beached whale in a brightly colored print dress. Though I have to admit that the new president of Liberia manages to pull it off successfully.
- Aspasia M. said...
I didn't intern on the Hill (like jsf) but two years ago I lived across the street in a woman's dormitory when I was in town to do historical research.
At night I spent some time in the Senate building with a friend who worked for a member. We would go to the building and work late at night.
Anyways, most of the Capitol Police were African American. (And the Capitol Police were very nice. More then once people joked with us and were worried about our safety when we left the building.)
Perhaps this isn't relevant, but does anyone know the race of the policeman?
- Aspasia M. said...
pat patterson,
That's rude.
- LarryK said...
You can't look at this incident in a vacuum - McKinney has a history of making outlandish accusations. Is she reframing this issue effectively for her target audience? Yes, she is pretty good at demagoguery, spreading paranoia and inflaming passions, but that is nothing to be proud of. I saw McKinney give a speech on Madison's capitol square after she was voted out of office (part of "hip hop week," I think) that was sheer lunacy - she blamed outside forces for manipulating the political process and "quelling my voice with votes," a deathless phrase I won't forget. Mentioning details like this isn't playing the "race card card," it's getting to the essence of who McKinney as an individual is and the twisted game she plays.
- Simon Kenton said...
Ms Althouse, I don't think it has to do with the race card as much as the race card has to do with an ethos. Hamas. Adam Clayton Powell. Marion Barry. Cynthia McKinney. Ray Nagin. To a lesser extent, Wellington Webb. When you have the client-state mentality, you don't vote as a serious exercise in selecting your governors and you don't expect them to provide competence and efficiency in governing. You vote as a way to say "Fuck you" to those you think have a duty to provide the largesse.
- David said...
The moral imperative of the Capitol Police is security. McKinney and her ilk would be the first to scream bloody murder if the building they worked in was penetrated by a terrorist who walked around a metal detector unchallenged.
McKinney would say, "Why didn't you stop me when I bypassed the metal detector without my pin? I was trying to send you a subtle message that something was wrong."
This is a total failure on the security front. Everyone who enters these buildings needs to be scanned, no ifs, ands, or buts. The likely scenario is akin to the bank president whose family is held hostage while he goes to work and empties out the vault to save his family.
Political correctness is still running amok. Is it a stretch that Democrats such as these still think terrorism is a police action and not a war? I don't think it is a stretch.
Forget the pins, forget the line-cutting, forget the special privileges. With insane security lapses like this going on, none of us are safe in our own capitol.
McKinney violated the intent and the spirit of the law and should pay the price.
- Rick said...
Dear Ann:
I live in Cynthia's district and have seen her at a couple of events. She's a world-class jerk, and do you know how big a jerk you have to be in these uncivil days to be world-class? But I appreciate the point you made--that racial (and sexual) profiling still exists; that the victims of those slights are --and have a right to be --offended. You obviously have more insight into that than a midwestern male like me, and that kind of sensitivity is what makes you such a good blogger.
Still, we ALL have to endure a lot of security headaches these days. And I want my elected representatives to endure them too, no matter the inconvenience to them or the cost to us. I want them to get patted down at airports. I want them to wait in line. I want them to go through all of it so that they will get angry at stupid protocols --like denying a boarding pass to a 3-year-old with the wrong name --but I also want them to become alarmed at inadequate, should-be-a-lot-tougher procedures, too. And they need to see those for themselves, because they're still all around us.
Finally, can you blame the capitol cops for being touchy? They face a lot bigger risk than just the risk of being offended.
- Fatmouse said...
It's about the hair. It's _all_ about the hair.
Looking at the before and after pictures of McC, she looks like two entirely different people (at the risk of playing fashion police, the only person she should be punching is the stylist who told her that'd be a good look).
And as for the notion that whites have trouble telling members of other races apart, well, that's he genetics of your head fur again, which defines a lot of how we look. While caucasians have wide variations in color and texture, every other ethnicity is nearly homogonous in the natural appearance of their hair.
I'd love some anthropologist to do a study of why blondes, brunettes and redheads came into existence and why black is the default hair color for ~90% of humanity...
- reader_iam said...
I watched the Blitzer interview in its entirety when it aired.
I see your point about whom she's trying reach, and that it was likely effective--it's not as if McKinney is a, well, subtle sort. (Witness her history.)
Still, it was disgusting and absolutely pandering and in response to direct questions, she would bring in a whole host of irrelevancies ad nauseum. That might have been OK, except that she was clearly, obviously NOT answering the specific questions (and at one point, even looked a little uncomfortable at the obviousness of that).
It's possible to be "competent" in reaching a specific constituency, while being an incompetent with loon-like qualities elsewhere.
As someone else noted here, McKinney has a history.
- Brent said...
First, you are correct - she did smartly for the "audience" she was playing to.
Second - McKinney is wrong that faces should be recognized. This is where the argument ends.
1)There are 435 members for pete's sake. Do you recognize all 400 students from each semester, especially if you only see them occasionally - does anyone? If being equal matters, then it doesn't matter if she's black.
2)At a recent trip to Washington DC, I was able to observe my congressman, Ken Calvert (7th term) not be recognized and have to show ID at the same spot. He's white. Seventh term. Case closed.
Lastly, let's talk about why McKinney is ridiculed on ExposetheLeft and other sites. Cynthia McKinney doesn't want to play by the rules. She wants to enjoy all the benefits everyone else does in her position, but when she goes all "cap" on someone's ***, she expects a special dispensation. And Ann you know as well as I, her "audience" STUPIDLY eats it up.
Cynthia McKinney and her "audience" are lowering the social contract.
- Ed said...
If I walked into Congress, bypassing the metal detector while not wearing proper identification, refused to stop when requested to do so by a security officer, and then struck an officer who tried to stop me, I would find myself face down on the floor, handcuffed, and with at least one gun pointed at my head; assuming they didn't just shoot me in the head to prevent the triggering of a possible explosive vest.
She's lucky they showed some restraint and didn't shoot her. There's a war on, remember?
Perhaps the solution is to remove the exemption for members of Congress, and make them go through the metal detectors just like everyone else is forced to do.
- CatoRenasci said...
Brent said: Lastly, let's talk about why McKinney is ridiculed on ExposetheLeft and other sites.
It's simple, The Hon. Ms. McKinney is ridiculous.
The only bad thing about ridiculing Ms. McKinney is that it's like shooting fish in a barrel.
- $CAV3NG3R said...
From Pat Pattersons remark about beached whales to Bruce Haydens "...anyone of pallor.." to Brent's "audience" reference, I'm begining to wonder if we aren't all doing the same thing we are accusing Cynthia of, by assuming her 'target audience' is lapping up the crap she's retching. I know a whole lot of blacks (I'll give the benefit of doubt and say I'm going out on a limb in assuming that's what brents 'audience' refers to)who are not block voters neither are they even democrats, so what's with all the condescending sweeping stereotyping of people and so forth. It's stuff like these that make otherwise rational folk reactionary, thankfully some of us are still rational enough to just ignore such in favour of reason.
That said I never really followed her politics so I don't know who she is but from the facts of the case that are available she was clearly wrong. Also most people I personally know who have been treated in manners that might be considered racist generally have learned to ignore it, simply because the energy required to tease out the subtleties involved is just not worth it and a lot of times there are other possible reasons for it.
As much as I can, I try to refrain from throwing stones,but the pat patterson remark needs a response. Pat if you're american what you did is the equivalent of the charcoal-pot calling the stainless steel kettle noir. I don't know how much you know about africa but not all parts have experienced famine or have undergone a primary food shortage. So before you say that it's because we're hungry that we are not fat I hasten to say that's not the case, and I've a large enough sample size coming from a middle-class-almost-everyone-is-college educated numbering in the low hundreds extended type family. It wasn't until I got here that I realized how obscenely obese people can get in these parts. We just don't indulge the way folks seem to do here, so Pat Ms Johnson is not a typical example and by the way african american=african.
- $CAV3NG3R said...
Correction: The last line should have read "....by the way african-american != african."
- MadisonMan said...
Perhaps the solution is to remove the exemption for members of Congress, and make them go through the metal detectors just like everyone else is forced to do.
Of course that is the sensible solution, which is why it'll never be enacted. Especially while Republicans can use the story as cover.
Someone upthread said this was bad for democrats. In reality, it's bad for all Americans, as the focus is on this twitchy little ferret of a Representative rather than directed where it belongs.
- Ann Althouse said...
"Someone bypassed security....If they did not recognize the person, and the person did not conform with rules (the pin,) and the person did not halt on request -- how else are they to react and fulfill their duty?... What other rules are possible?"
I think the pin isn't enough, because it can be faked. There has to be some combination of identification pin/badge and recognition. The problem isn't just that McKinney wasn't wearing the pin, it's that members of Congress want VIP treatment. Within the VIP treatment, there needs to be equal treatment. McKinney thinks she's not getting the full VIP treatment because they aren't trying hard enough to remember her face. I agree that she's being haughty, but so are all the other members of Congress. I say downgrade the treatment of all of them.
And I think it actually is damned hard to recognize all the white male members of Congress. They really do look alike. I wish some of them would come up with some new hairstyles. Personally, I'm sick of that hardened hair-helmet they all wear.
- Ann Althouse said...
"can you blame the capitol cops for being touchy? They face a lot bigger risk than just the risk of being offended. "
No, I don't blame them at all. I think they did the right thing. I've never said otherwise.
- Finn Kristiansen said...
Freeman Hunt said...
There are empirical studies about the difficulties of cross-racial identification. It's real. And the belief that it's real is definitely real and a source of pain that deserves sympathy (whether you think McKinney should be tapping into that sympathy or not).
Why would this be a source of pain?
Yea especially when this nation has never had situations where blacks were misidentified, confused with others, and convicted of crimes, and sex crimes, they did not commit.
- PatCA said...
I disagree that somehow procedures should be reviewed and changed and equalized to correct some alleged fault. Leave it to the police and do not give an inch to this demagogue McKinney.
- Reggie said...
It doesn't matter why the cop didn't recognize her. The cop was doing his job, even if he made a mistake. There is no excuse for punching the guy. Anybody else would have been hauled before a judge by now.
Book her.
- Pat Patterson said...
My comment about Rep. McKinney's hair was in reaction to Ann's comment that "She's also sensitive about her hair,..." I hoped to point out that the fat and obese are not taken seriously and they know it and are much more sensitive to their appearance than a thinner person might be. As to the charcoal-pot, find that on Wikipedia, I was observing that President Johnson-Sirleaf via her attitude and comportment is able to transcend her appearance and dress and I said this without any reference to residents of the rest of Africa. Something Rep. McKinney must know that she will never be able to do.
- lindsey said...
I find it astounding that this woman actually punched someone and we're discussing whether she's a victim. I don't believe she'd be garnering as much sympathy if she was male.
- Gahrie said...
Personally, I think she blew this incident up on purpose to distract from her malfeasance when she used goverbnment funds illegally to pay for Isaac Hayes' plane ticket.
- knoxgirl said...
Of course that is the sensible solution, which is why it'll never be enacted. Especially while Republicans can use the story as cover.
a democrat congressperson PUNCHES A COP yet the republicans are the nefarious ones....
- The Cranky Insomniac said...
If you don't wear the pin, you don't get in.
Captain Renault Award Nominee
- MadisonMan said...
a democrat congressperson PUNCHES A COP yet the republicans are the nefarious ones.
Hardly. I only say they're enjoying this too much to do anything positive so something like it doesn't recur. Were the parties switched, the same thing would happen.
And meanwhile, more important things are ignored.
- Brent said...
Thank you for the benefit of the doubt, and your thoughtful post.
By "audience" I meant her constituents, the ones who will vote for her. Thank you for helping me clarify.
- Harkonnendog said...
There are TONS of good reasons to hit cops. But if I can't she can't either, dammit.
- Maxine Weiss said...
"I'd love some anthropologist to do a study of why blondes, brunettes and redheads came into existence and why black is the default hair color for ~90% of humanity"---Fatmouse
I flunked biology; but, doesn't it have something to do with how dark genes are dominant, and lighter hair/eyes.....is recessive???? Does anyone remember those T-squares where you predict your children's traits? Heady stuff for 10th grade biology!
I guess by that (dominant/recessive) theory, we are all getting darker.
The light skinned races don't have as many children.
Intermarriage. I can't remember an article I'd read saying that the Caucasion race will cease to exist, and we'll all become dark skinned-brunette hybrids.
Is it me, or is society getting darker?
Peace, Maxine
- Thorley Winston said...
a democrat congressperson PUNCHES A COP yet the republicans are the nefarious ones....
Yes you have to understand, Cynthia McKiney (D-Jupiter) wouldn't have hit a cop if she wasn't really under the influence of the Karl Rove Mind Control Ray.
- Jen Bradford said...
I wish Wolf had thought to ask whether McKinney recognized the cop. Had she ever greeted the guy? Everyone knows how to be recognized by the people they encounter in a daily way - be decent! Make eye contact. Learn people's names. If someone says "Hi Bob" you can be damn sure he's going to make more of an effort to learn her name and face.
If she didn't recognize him, should he still be expected to recognize her (since "that's his job")? I say no, since stopping her if he wasn't sure is also his job. Also, if she blew past him in a big hurry, is the cop supposed to recognize her backside as well?
- MadisonMan said...
Is it me, or is society getting darker?
That would be Daylight Savings Time.
I think a really interesting News feature on the Police at the Capitol would include the scoop on which Lawmakers and aides were really nice to them, and which were way too Lord of the Manor. You really can judge a person by how they treat people with less power. I wonder if Tammy Baldwin and James Sensenbrenner treat the Capitol guards in similar, polite midwestern manners. How about Sam Brownback and Charles Schumer? Are there regional differences in how lawmakers treat them?
I suspicion that the Police wouldn't comment, however. Commenting would probably be a good way to lose your job.
- Freeman Hunt said...
Finn Kristiansen said...
Why would this be a source of pain?
Yea especially when this nation has never had situations where blacks were misidentified, confused with others, and convicted of crimes, and sex crimes, they did not commit.
So, she was so broken up and pained about these incidents that she decided the next person who didn't recognize her was getting popped in the face?
Where is her source of pain?
- Simon said...
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- Simon said...
"Hardly. I only say they're enjoying this too much to do anything positive so something like it doesn't recur. Were the parties switched, the same thing would happen."
I'm sorry if this reply is premised on a misreading of your post, but why would it be a positive thing to prevent a recurrence of "this"? What is "this"? As I see it, "this" is the fact that the capitol police consider it their job to ensure the physical safety of Congress and the Capitol Complex. "This," as I see it, is that when a person walks through a checkpoint and fails to respond to verbal requests to stop by the police is physically halted by the police. "This" is not a problem to be correcte, "this" is precisely what ought to happen.
She failed to stop at a posted checkpoint, failed to stop when ordered to halt by the police, and then physically attacked the police. And let's not forget: the cop merely grabbed her. If they had tazered her, I would still say that the capitol police had behaved appropriately. If they had shot her, I would still say the capitol police acted appropriately.
Do you know what a suicide bomber could do if allowed into the Hall of the House because the capitol police were too worried about political correctness to stop them?
Cop 1: "Hey, shouldn't we stop that person?"
Cop 2: "No, I think it's Rep. McKinney"
Cop 1: "Are you sure?"
Cop 2: "Not really, but better safe than sorry. And by 'safe,' I mean, 'safe from getting assaulted by that ghastly woman again if it is her'."
Cop 1: "you're probably right. Hey, what was that loud bang?"
Cop 2: "It could be an explosion that killed 100 representatives, but it's probably just McKinney opening her mouth again."
With all due respect to McKinney, she is a large woman; it isn't hard to imagine that a thin woman who carried enough explosives under a bulky overgarment to bring her up to McKinney's profile could decapitate our government. I for one am proud - thrilled, in fact - that the capitol police are zealously guarding the safety and security of the capitol. The selfishness, stupidity and oversensitivity of one member of the House of Representatives is really a very ancillary concern.
- MadisonMan said...
Sorry for the confusion. This referred to Representatives/Senators walking around the checkpoints because they can. And then inevitably being misidentified as a miscreant. That's the this that could be avoided if Republicans wanted it to happen (I say Republicans merely because they're in power now).
I doubt this whole incident would have occurred if Lawmakers had to go through the metal detectors like any other US Citizen. I guess I'm assuming that Lawmakers can just breeze on through. That's what the news reports and the comments here led me to believe.
- Steven said...
If the Democratic members of Congress had even the least degree of respect for the Capitol Hill Police that are keeping them safe, they would have already internally caucused and threatened to have her expelled from the House.
Accordingly, the very fact that Congresswoman McKinney has a target audience for anything other than a humble apology is itself offensive, and properly damaging to the Democratic Party.
- Steven said...
I doubt this whole incident would have occurred if Lawmakers had to go through the metal detectors like any other US Citizen.
Whereas, given the arrogance, disregard for the rules, and propensity for violence Ms. McKinney showed in this incident, I think it's pretty certain she'd have assaulted someone on the Hill at some point even if there was a general requirement for members of Congress to go through metal detectors. Say, if she set off the detectors and was called back to be wanded.


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Apple Inc's quarterly profit is projected to shrink for the first time in a decade, hurt by new products with lower profit margins and slower growth in iPhone sales.
Fourteen analysts have reduced their estimates for Apple in the past four weeks, as shares in the world's most valuable technology company continue their slide from a September record high. Competition from Samsung Electronics Co is also weighing on the stock, and pressure is mounting for chief executive officer Tim Cook to introduce hit products to reignite sales.
An earnings report today may show that fiscal second-quarter net income declined 18 percent to US$9.53 billion, or US$10.02 a share, according to analysts' estimates compiled by Bloomberg. Revenue is projected to show a rise of 8 percent to US$42.4 billion, the slowest growth rate since 2009.
"The market is in show-me mode for Apple," said Laurence Balter, an analyst at Oracle Investment Research who is based in Fox Island, Washington, and has a "buy" rating on Apple. "The market needs to see some evidence that the future looks bright because that candle is flickering."
To placate investors, Apple may increase its dividend or boost share buybacks. Katy Huberty, an analyst at Morgan Stanley, said an announcement may come with the earnings release. Toni Sacconaghi, an analyst at Sanford C. Bernstein & Co, predicts it will come later.
Apple may raise its current quarterly dividend by 17 percent to about US$3.10 a share, according to a Bloomberg estimate, based on payouts of other large technology firms, Apple's projected earnings and the amount of cash it holds.
Apple's profit margins have been squeezed by higher component costs and the introduction of lower-priced products such as the iPad mini. The company probably sold 35.4 million iPhones in the latest quarter, compared with 35.1 million a year earlier, according to estimates compiled by Bloomberg.
The slide comes as Samsung prepares to start selling its Galaxy S4 smartphone this week. The South Korea-based company is Apple's biggest rival and has challenged the iPhone's dominance by selling a slew of handsets with different styles, screen sizes and prices.
Evidence of weakening demand has been trickling out from Apple's suppliers. Hon Hai Precision Industry Co (鴻海), which manufacturers the iPhone and iPad in China, reported its biggest revenue slide in at least 13 years this month. Cirrus Logic Inc, a maker of chips, reported an inventory glut that suggested slowing iPhone sales. Verizon Wireless also reported last week that it sold 2 million iPhone 5s, weaker than some analysts had predicted.
Investors sent the stock below US$400 last week, the first time it has traded below that level since December 2011. Apple shares fell less than 1 percent to US$390.53 on Friday, leaving the stock down 45 percent from a September record high.
Apple's devotion to keeping details of products secret before they are unveiled has contributed to shareholder concerns, Balter said. While a new television product and watch-like wearable computer are possible, investors are not showing faith in the post-Steve Jobs management team to come up with a breakthrough gadget, he said.
"Nobody believes the secret anymore," Balter said. "It was OK when Steve Jobs would say we have some great things in the product line, but right now that credibility has been lost."


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I use a short 'i' sound.
It all started when my 10 yr old son came back from school one day and told me that his English teacher taught the class to pronounce 'he' biscus, and NOT 'hai' biscus.
I checked with the dictionary (with phonetics sysmbols), and it says, both can be used?? The thing is that, my son's English teacher insisted that it is pronounced as 'he' biscus.
Could you tell me how to pronounce hibiscus rightly?
Thank you.
Hibiscus is national flower of our country.
I use a short 'i' sound.
Is that 'i' the american or british pronunciation?
I use 'hai' sound. Am I wrong then?
I'm British and have always heard the short 'i'. Let's wait to see what the Americans say; I'm afraid I've never heard an American say it.
I've always heard it pronounced hy-BIS-cus (I think similar to your "hai" pronunciation).
I guess it can be pronounced in either way??
My niece, a law graduate from Oxford U, said that she pronounces it as 'hai' or 'hy' biscus. She's British.
I haven't heard it as 'i' as to 'he' biscus until my son's teacher brought this up.
According to the Longman dictionary I´ve just looked up it´s HAIbiscus...and it´s given as the only English pronunciation(they show the variations when there are any ).However,we Brazilians do say HEbiscus,but then again that´d be the Portuguese pronunciation of it..
I'll check with a keen gardener and get back on this one.
Thanks, and I'm still waiting to know which pronunciation I should use.
Good idea, tdol, that you'll check with a keen gardener! or maybe a horticulturist?
Janaina, I'm also using the Longman Dictionary. It gives both pronunciation and either one is correct. I'm just not too happy with my son's teacher who INSISTED that it should be 'he' biscus.
Either she proves me wrong or I'll prove her wrong!
I don´t think either is wrong.The dictionary I looked up had only one pronunciation, nonetheless I´m positive that just like many other words,both pronunciations are correct...


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2009 Softball
Bluffton primed to defend HCAC regular season crown
By: Aaron Mass, sports information intern
January 29, 2009
Click here for HCAC pre-season coaches poll
The Bluffton University softball team enters the 2009 season with lofty expectations. The Beavers finished the 2008 season with a record of 25-17 overall, and they shared the regular season Heartland Conference title with Rose-Hulman. Bluffton's 13-3 record in the HCAC gave the Beavers their first regular-season conference title since 2004. The 13 HCAC wins also was the most single-season conference victories in Bluffton history.
Head Coach Heather Bruder is entering her third season as the Bluffton University mentor. Her career record at Bluffton is 39-34 overall, including an impressive 22-9 in the HCAC during the regular season (.710 winning percentage). Bruder took home the HCAC Coach of the Year award a year ago, as the Beavers' win total increased by 11 games from 2007 to 2008.
The HCAC tournament holds the key to an automatic bid for the NCAA Division III tournament. Typically, only the team that wins that post-season tourney qualifies for the D-III tournament. Unfortunately, the Beavers were defeated by arch-nemesis Defiance College and then Bluffton fell to Mount St. Joseph in 2008, ending the magical season.
Despite one of the top seasons in Bluffton's softball history, Coach Bruder still has that vision of going to the next level. "Every year, my expectation is to win the national championship. I believe in always having the highest expectations. That way we are always having the goal of improving each and every year."
|Offensively, Bruder believes the Beavers can be successful by continuing her philosophy of aggressive base running. "In order to be effective on offense, it is important to put pressure on the defense. From one through nine in the batting order, we need to move the ball around with productive at bats, as well as advancing base runners."
|On the other side of the diamond, Coach Bruder realizes errors will be made, but it is vital for her athletes to be in position to make plays, especially the routine ones. "In addition to Brooke (Babcock) and Kelley (Kenney), we have added two freshmen to expand and solidify our pitching staff. Kristen Agauas (Bloomfield, Mich./Andover H.S.) and Lauren Rombkowski (Maumee/Notre Dame) will give the Beavers talent and greater depth on the mound this season. Adding a third and fourth pitcher will really help us down the stretch," quipped Bruder.
|Bruder also believes that the league will once again have quite a bit of parity and that, "Defiance is a team that we must play better against." Rose-Hulman, the school that shared the regular season HCAC title with the Beavers a year ago, should also be in the thick of things because they have experience coming back. Coach Bruder thinks that Anderson, Mount St. Joseph and Transylvania will all have a say in the conference race.
Paul Burnside has stepped in as Bruder's assistant, and he is ready to fill the void left by assistant coach Lisa Shepard. Coach Shepard was an All-American pitcher in college, and was on Coach Bruder's staff for her first two seasons at Bluffton. "He has been around softball for over 20 years and he started his own travel ball organization," Bruder said about the new hire. "He has already been a great help to the coaching staff."
As for the wins and losses, the Beavers are looking to take the next step to propel them into elite status. "The only way to earn respect is by winning. No one remembers the runner-up. Once you win, that expectation is there. We are ready to win it (HCAC) outright." Clearly Coach Bruder stresses seeing improvements each and every season.
|One of the hot topics around the Bluffton University campus has been the construction of the new softball facility just behind the baseball field. The first home game is scheduled for March 12 versus Ursuline College. "As of now, we are scheduled to play our first home game at the new facility," she said. Bruder also explained that the new facility in the making has helped the recruiting process. "There are two main factors that weigh heavily on recruiting, a winning program and your facilities." The fact that Bluffton just won the HCAC regular season title a year ago, coupled with the excitement regarding a new facility, has greatly assisted recruiting of both numbers and talent.
|The squad lost only three seniors from last season. There are three seniors that return, including infielder Lindsey Miller (Wapakoneta). She was named the Heartland Conference MVP following an incredible 2008 season in which she shattered several school records. She was first in the conference in batting average (.462), home runs (11), RBI (45) and total bases (97). Entering her final campaign, she is first all-time in Bluffton softball history in batting average, slugging percentage, and career home runs.
|Bluffton's success a year ago was also thanks to two other all-HCAC selections. Brooke Babcock (Findlay) is back for her junior season after leading the conference in regular season pitching victories with 13. Fellow junior Jayme Marbaugh (Ohio City/Parkway) returns after a sophomore campaign in which she was second on the team in RBI.
|As expected, Coach Bruder is looking to Lindsey Miller for leadership. "She is an incredibly hard worker who the team looks up to for guidance. She has the talent and ability, but also works hard. Her ability matches her work ethic." Furthermore, both captains from a year ago return, Miller and senior pitcher Kellie Kenney (Toledo/Emmanuel Baptist). She was 12-4 in 2008 with a superb 2.91 earned run average. It is undoubtedly an asset to have experience back, and even more so if those returners have been on the field in pressure situations. "My seniors are ready to lead. They have the mentality of 'this is it.' I think my seniors are looking at this season as their last chance to go to the NCAA Regionals and the national tournament."
The Beavers will also count on several freshmen to take on the task of adjusting to the Division III college softball game. "As many as five freshmen could be on the field at any one time. With our great leaders and work ethic, our freshman will be molded that same way," stated Coach Bruder who boasts a roster that contains nine first-year players.
Something that cannot be ignored in this part of the country is the weather that must be dealt with by both baseball and softball teams. Coach Bruder puts the condition of the field entirely on her shoulders. "I feel like my players have the right to play because of how hard they work. It is my responsibility to have the field in the best possible shape," she said.
|Bruder's troops open this season at the Rebel Spring Games in Kissimmee, Florida, which is located south of Orlando. The Beavers will play 10 games in only five days over Bluffton University's spring break (from March 2-6). The 2009 opener is scheduled for March 2 against Widener University from Chester, Pennsylvania. "The wins and losses at spring break are not as important as how we play down there. There are two seasons in softball, conference and non-conference, and only the top four make the HCAC tournament," she remarked. Bruder also noted that she has a strict policy of team conduct and that it is not a vacation as many other students across the country are experiencing: "We are there to play softball, plain and simple."
There are several notable contests this season for Bluffton. First and foremost is the home opener at the new softball facility, scheduled for Thursday, March 12, against Ursuline College. The HCAC lidlifter for the Beavers is on the road against Rose-Hulman on March 28. A non-conference battle against Case Western Reserve University on April 18 is Bluffton's annual Strike-Out Cancer Day.
The Bluffton softball program will say goodbye to a memorable class of three seniors on April 25 which is Senior/Parent Day. That game is the final regular season battle against HCAC rival Hanover College. Finally, the Beavers will be in search of their third consecutive HCAC tournament appearance, and only the top four teams qualify. The winner receives an automatic bid to the NCAA tournament. The 2009 Heartland Conference tournament is scheduled for May 1-2.
Coach Bruder has already made huge strides with the softball program at Bluffton University in less than three years. "My heart is here because I love my kids. I love Ohio and Division III, and I love what Bluffton University stands for."


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flat starter & sticky dough after proofing
OK, I am new at sourdough, but have been baking many years. I have a wonderfully sour starter that bubbles real busy; however it does not expand more than 2x its volume with regular 12 hour feedings. I started with a 1-1 WW & water recipe and let the natural yeasts develop. It took about 10 days to really start working itself up good. Between my baking I store in the fridge, removing and bringing to room temp every 2-3 days. I feed and wait for action, then return to the fridge till I need it or need to feed again. I use 2-1 flour to water, alternating WW and AP for feedings. I will keep out for 3-4 feedings.
I tried using for loaves and typically get hard, overmoist and over crusty loaves. I tried 1/4 tsp ACV in my last feeding before using the starter for the 2 loaves in the pic. I am wondering if that even helped considering the density of the loaves. We ended up using it for french toast that was ok at best...so dense it didn't want to soak up the milk/egg!
Now, I think my hair is falling out! I am ready to throw a loaf out now that has been proofing in the oven with the light on since yesterday! Yes, yesterday! Starting the night before last, I kneaded all the ing together and let it set to rise overnight. In the morning after proofing 8 hours, my dough turned very sticky, too wet to knead without another almost cup of flour added. Beautiful 2nd proof after 2-3 hours, then discovered the same stickiness problem! I had to add another good anount of flour just to knead again. Now I have this very stiff dough in my oven scored and resting. It has risen by about 1/4 of it's original size and I'm afraid to touch it! I am so frustrated I want to just throw everything out! I love sd and thought I was determined enough to figure it out! Now I am ready to just go buy a commercial loaf and ditch the whole starter for good!


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Camping is the Number One outdoor vacation activity in America. So says the Travel Industry Association trade group, which also reports that a third of adults in the U.S. have gone on camping trips in the past five years, and only 6 percent of them concluded the experience wasn't for them. RV Trade Digest confirms the popularity of this heavily family-oriented activity, citing a 23 percent increase in total campground and RV bookings from January to May 2008 versus the same period in 2007. That's a lot of happy campers. "These numbers show that camping continues to be a strong and viable vacation option even in this uncertain economy," says Linda Profaizer, president of the National Association of RV Parks and Campgrounds.
In Broward County, five County parks offer campgrounds: C.B. Smith, Easterlin, Markham, Quiet Waters, and T.Y. All but Quiet Waters offer sites with full RV hookups, and all have picnic tables, charcoal grills, and restroom complexes with hot showers. C.B. Smith and T.Y. include laundry rooms, while T.Y.'s restrooms are also air-conditioned.
At Quiet Waters, a unique Rent-A-Tent package is available. Each site includes a platform with a pre-set-up 10-foot-by-10-foot canvas tent (capacity six), a fire ring, a grill, a picnic table, electricity, and running water. Also available are two tepee sites, each with a grill, a fire ring, and a picnic table. No RV sites are offered at this location.
All campgrounds provide after-hours security. Two pets per campsite are allowed with proof of current vaccinations and appropriate licenses. Pets must be registered at check-in and must be kept on a leash no longer than six feet at all times when not inside the RV or tent.
Camping fees vary based on residency, with residents of the tricounty area of Broward, Palm Beach, and Miami-Dade receiving discounts. Reservations are highly recommended, especially during the peak season of November through April.
Reservations are made by contacting the park office by phone. Parks will accept Visa, Mastercard, American Express and Discover charge cards. Please see below for campground phone numbers and e-mail addresses.
Primitive Group Camping
Primitive group camping is offered at seven regional parks - C.B. Smith, Easterlin, Markham, Quiet Waters, Vista View, and T.Y. This activity, popular with scouts and both youth and adult groups, lets you experience nature as it is, without utilities and other creature comforts. Organized nonprofit groups of adults or supervised youths are permitted to preregister at the park office for overnight camping at designated locations.
Campers will need to bring their own equipment, including tents and other supplies. Open fires are permitted only at designated fire rings. Other park amenities not far from the campsite may be made available by prior arrangement with park management. All park rules and regulations apply to primitive group campers. Group reservations can be made only by an adult 18 or older. All groups of youths under 18 must include one adult for every 10 youths.
For more information, call or e-mail the individual parks.


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BOSTON (AP) — The Bruins were the first Boston team to play at home after the bombs exploded at the Boston Marathon, and they were happy to give the city something else to think about.
Now that they're in the Stanley Cup finals, the Bruins are hoping that their success can contribute to the healing process.
Bruins coach Claude Julien says everybody is looking for something to smile about, and it might as well be his team. But he knows that winning a championship won't fix the people that were hurt in the April 15 attacks.
Three people were killed and hundreds more wounded when two bombs exploded at the marathon finish line. Most Boston sporting events were canceled that week as the focus turned to a city-wide manhunt.