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Butler County had reported the twelfth case of polio with the recent deaths of two young men from Douglass.
With a fighting line and a fast backfield, the Augusta gridsters dominated a wet, muddy football field when they beat Eureka 12-0 in the first home game of the season.
Due to a lack of manpower, the giant scoreboard that had been used for the world series for over 15 years and maintained by the Elks on the north side of the Calvert's building, would not be used for the upcoming World Series.
Admission to the high school football games was 40 cents for adults and 25 cents for students.
Augusta motorists were happy to see new "Yield Right-of-Way" signs replacing many of the stop signs around town. The "new" method of slowing down when approaching an intersection and yielding was becoming popular in other cities.
The Augusta Saddle Club was to participate in The Calvacade of Kansas, a Pony Express ride over a 175 mile route from Topeka to Wichita.
The State Highway Commission revealed design plans for improving Highway 54 west of ?Augusta. The plans called for the proposed highway to run north of the present road with the distance between the two ranging from 50 to 80 feet. A new 610 foot bridge would be built to span the Whitewater.
A scrappy Augusta High School football team turned the tide on a powerful Ark City team on Worl Field, in a "brilliant" game that ended 14-13 in Augusta's favor.
Augusta High School senior class officers were: Bill Stueven, president; Dennis Morris, vice president; Janet Fitzwater, secretary; Connie Bryan, treasurer.
A Hootenanny was held at the high school in front of a packed crowed.
Richard E. Crowder, son of Dr. and Mrs. Donald Crowder of Augusta, graduated nine months early from the University of Missouri, Kansas City School of Dentistry. He planned to establish a practice in Wichita.
A Bunker Hill climber and a six swing swing set was added to the playground at Garfield Elementary. The swing set was designed by Ben Carrillo and he also installed the climber.
H.H. Robinson, former superintendent of Augusta schools and sculptor, presented a bust of Abraham Lincoln to the Lincoln Elementary.
Augusta Junior High head football coach Gus Garcia announced his resignation as Bluejay football coach. He would remain a full-time teacher at the junior high and the AHS head wrestling coach.
A half dozen hot air balloons lifted off from the Augusta Airport and sailed north one weekend. Their was plans for more lift-offs from the local air strip.
Due to the closing of Mobil refinery and many residents transferring or leaving Augusta, there were more than 200 homes for sale in town.
King and Queen elected for the Centennial Silver Jubilee celebration were Burl Allison, Jr. and Dorothy Smitherman. Nearly 40 people were nominated.
The local Kiwanis Club hosted and narrated a bus tour of Augusta's historical sites and a block party was held in the 300 block of State in honor of the town's 125th birthday.
Approximately 200 people whose families once lived in the Butler County oil field lease communities met in El Dorado for a reunion.
Double D's Restaurant of El Dorado was expanding their well-known business to the old Lehr's site on W. 7th.
Augusta High School returned to Class 4A for sports after being in Class 5A. Everyone agreed it was better to be a big 4A than a small 5A.
AHS fall homecoming hopefuls were: Andrew Pritchard and Jessica Lewis; Adam Knebler and Lacey Shryock; Thomas Stephenson and Chancey Gerbitz; Travis Camac and Jennie Nold.


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Aug. 16, 2007
More often than not reality seldom equals or surpasses expectations.
Such has not been the case, however, for Lipscomb volleyball coach Brandon Rosenthal. He ranked his incoming freshmen class as the best he has ever assembled. Based on early practice sessions his assumption is proving to be correct.
Outside hitter Katie Bradley, middle blocker Alex Kelly, setter Stefine Pease and defensive specialist-libero Brittany Simmons have wasted no time making an impact on the team.
"The freshmen have been better than my expectations," Rosenthal said. "We knew they were going to come in and compete from the start. There hasn't been an instant when they have let me down.
"We have to change some things with them and there is a learning curve. But I have been very impressed with the intensity. From the very first whistle they were ready to go."
Rosenthal is also impressed with outside Sarah Snider, a transfer from the University of Alabama, who is expected to be one of the top performers this season. She will be a junior this season.
"I am not only impressed with their performances, but I am impressed with their integration into the team," Rosenthal said. "When your players come together as a team for the first time you wonder how long is it going to take for them to jell together. They have done a great job of doing that.
"Everybody on the team is a piece of the puzzle. They have to all step up."
Rosenthal thinks that Snider has adapted to being part of a new program.
"Sarah realizes she is going to have to be a pretty big member of this team, not that she wasn't at Alabama," Rosenthal said. "She has quietly come in and really carefully observed what we are doing."
The enthusiasm of the team is evident as two-a-day practices continue. Rosenthal says he has been "pleasantly surprised" at the upbeat level of the sessions.
"It has been a lot of fun in practice," Rosenthal said. "These players know what is at stake this season. They came in ready to go. I am very impressed with the overall group."
The Lady Bisons open their season Aug. 25 at Allen Arena in the Music-Magic Invite which also includes Belmont, Alabama-Birmingham and Birmingham Southern.


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In a career that spanned 14 NFL seasons, including four in St. Louis, Aeneas Williams established himself as one of the best defensive backs of his era. Saturday, his legacy in NFL history was cemented as he was bestowed the league's highest individual honor as he was elected to the NFL Hall of Fame.
Williams was one of seven players selected, joining DE Michael Strahan, LB Derrick Brooks, WR Andre Reed, OT Walter Jones, P Ray Guy and DE Claude Humphrey.
This year marked the third consecutive year Williams appeared as a Hall of Fame finalist. The wait was certainly worth it, and did not wear on the former corner and safety.
"I trusted the process," Williams said following the announcement. "There was nothing I could do now that I hadn't already done."
The former third-round draft pick out of Southern University becomes just the 24th defensive back to be elected to Canton, including just the fourth in his era, joining Darrell Green, Deion Sanders and Rod Woodson.
"It's unreal, because there are so many guys I know who were far more talented than I was to play at this level, and even at the collegiate level," Williams said. "My motivation was always, and still is, to reach my potential. I contacted Hall of Fame guys in my second and third year in the league, I took time to see them and talk to them about how to have a great corner mindset. To be considered one of 24, I just praise God and thank my trainers and everybody who played a part in helping me to get physically and mentally ready to play."
Williams' talent was certainly more than sufficient for induction in Canton, as he spent much of his career as one of the league's premier cover corners, grabbing 55 career interceptions, including eight seasons of four or more.
Williams converted to safety during his four-year tenure with St. Louis, which was highlighted by two of his eight career Pro Bowl selections. Upon joining the Rams in 2001, Williams was named a first-team All-Pro defensive back in 2001, helping transform the Rams' defense from the 23rd-ranked unit to the third-best in a single year. His efforts helped the Rams to their second Super Bowl appearance in three seasons. In joining St. Louis, Williams, who had long established himself as one of the league's best defenders, had the opportunity to play for a championship for the first time in his 11th year in the NFL.
"(Just) getting the opportunity to play with some great players, playing with my fellow New Orleanian Marshall Faulk, being a part of a great team that was already assembled, being coached by Coach (Mike) Martz and Coach Lovie Smith, it was a great time," Williams said.
Williams became the second member of the 2001 Rams to be named, joining Faulk, who was inducted in 2011.


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December 19, 2005
Someone's in the cocoon.
UPDATE: Three Years of Hell has some excellent, and nicely bloggish, comments about the movie -- and he's actually seen it. He makes it sound -- gasp! -- boring. That's the worst condemnation, really -- in my book anyway. That reminds me: Chris saw "Syriana" and said it was one of the most boring movies he's ever seen.
IN THE COMMENTS: Some talk about who this movie is being marketed to. I give my answer -- and it's not gay men.
46 comments:
- downtownlad said...
It will play well in the heartland, because there are a lot of gays in the heartland.
If people think that gay people only live in the big cities - they are the ones in the cocoon.
But most straight people will not see this movie.
- The Drill SGT said...
Beyond that segment of the gay population that is "out", and most of the gays in the hertland aren't, I don't see it doing well. Beyond gays, what are the natural demographics?
Action film appealing to men 16-39? I dont think so.
Chick Flick / Date film? couples 16-29? only the artsy elite urban crowd
Hen party, Girls night out film? How many women are going to identify with a forelorn love story about sheep herders?
I think it sputters and goes quietly into the night
- downtownlad said...
I think lots of fag-hags will go see this movie.
I'm going to see it with my fag-hag next week.
When I say heartland, I'm talking about middle America, i.e. Chicago, Dallas, Houston, St. Louis, etc. Tons of gay people there.
Rural Wyoming? Not that many. But then again - does Wyoming even have a movie theater?
- The Drill SGT said...
We have different definitions of "Heartland". Mine was more Red State / Blue state versus your non-coastal urban area.
sure, it will do fine in Chicago, but not downstate
- chuck b. said...
Well, isn't the heartland wide open spaces where relatively few people live?
What would inspire Hollywood to cater to tiny heartland audiences?
- downtownlad said...
If you can get 3% of this country to attend a movie, that translates into 9 million people. At $10 a pop, that's 90 million dollars.
That's like saying that movies shouldn't target black people, because they're only 12% of the population.
There's nothing that prevents a movie that's targeted towards a specific audience from being successful.
Gay people, their friends and family easily constitute 30% of this country, at least based on the percentage who vote in favor of gay marriage. That's your target audience.
I wouldn't not expect anyone who's opposed to gay marriage to see this movie - as they've already made up their mind that love between two gay people is an impossibility.
- downtownlad said...
Oh - And I don't want to imply that not seeing this movie makes you a homophobe. It doesn't.
But homophobes will not see this movie for obvious reasons. So essentially it's target audience is the 30% of this country that is not homophobic.
- chuck b. said...
"If you can get 3% of this country to attend a movie, that translates into 9 million people. At $10 a pop, that's 90 million dollars."
I don't think Hollywood employs your analysis. There's the big blockbuster, and there's the independent film. Brokeback falls in the latter category. It's a $13M film. If small films appeal to the heartland, fine. But if not, noone in the film industry is going to care--at all. They don't need to.
Brokeback is going to make tons of money. It's got the right combination of star power and artistic interest and it was dirt-cheap to make. It's all about the bottom line.
That's my only point: It doesn't matter if the heartland sees the movie or not. Why Frank Rich thinks that matters, I don't know.
- Troy said...
Fag hags may go see it, but they don't really want to see Bubble get some Knight's Tail. Word of mouth will kill it for some. This ain't Will & Grace homosexuality.
FRank Rich doesn't know a damn thing about much outside of NYC and I doubt he knows much outside of his cadre of Kool-Aid drinking buddies.
- downtownlad said...
My friend saw it in Philadelphia and he said half of the audience was female.
He didn't think there was a straight male in the house though.
But he did add that every show was sold out and he had to go at midnight (also sold out).
- Icepick said...
DTL, most straight people don't see most movies. Take a $400M film, at an average ticket price of $8.00 and you've only got 50,000,000 people ... ~1/6 of the population of the USA. (And I'm not sure if the $8.00 is low or high factoring in afternoon 'cheap' prices, but the idea is the same in any event.)
And Chuck B, those wide-open spaces tend to include the suburbs and exurbs...you know, the people who elected GWB. That's not an inconsiderable number of people. But if Hollywood wants to keep pissing those folks off by constantly insulting them, then fine. I guess it will just leave a bigger audience for those weird Mel Gibson Dead Language films....
- chuck b. said...
Yeah, where all those Jesus films we were promised with the success of Passion of the Christ? I guess there aren't that many entrepreneurial Christian filmmakers out there after all.
The exurbs and suburbs contain GWB's base, but he won the election because he swung moderates like me who found Kerry intolerable. (Well, not me...I live in California and my state's electoral votes went for the loser this time.)
- downtownlad said...
So it "insults" you when Hollywood makes a movie that acknowledges two gay people are human.
- chuck b. said...
I'm not sure Icepick meant to refer to Brokeback specifically. Hollywood makes frequent fun of middle America and middle American values very generally. That can feel insulting after awhile, I guess.
The problem with feeling insulted is that eventually it gets hard to take the insulted very seriously. That goes for gays who feel always insulted and Christians who feel always persecuted. We all need to get over ourselves a little bit, imo.
- grumpyTA said...
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- Palladian said...
God, the conversation about this movie has become intolerable. It's really sad to see that the only reason most people can find for making a movie is financial demographics. Doesn't anyone care about art anymore? This movie was cheaply made and will easily end up in the financial black. It wasn't meant as a cash cow, and won't be a cash cow (though I suspect it will make a bigger profit than most Hollywood "successes". But seriously, is the subject matter so off-putting as to make the film unwatchable? That's like me refusing to see Vertigo (a movie I love) because it's a forlorn love story about a mentally unstable heterosexual man with a penchant for tossing icy blonds off of belltowers; not my thing, man, no offense.
Anyway, they have plenty of DVD players in the Heartland, and I suspect everyone who wants to see it there will get a chance. Who goes to the theater anymore anyway?
- chuck b. said...
I'm sure the directors and actors involved consider their film work artistic. But if the conversation's about what makes money, that requires different considerations.
And I agree...I'm all Brokebacked out and will say no more about this movie (until its grosses exceed $50M, at which point I will needle Sarahweddington about it until she cries).
I certainly won't see Brokeback until the DVD arrives from Greencine (my Netflix). I only saw two movies in the theater this year (Sin City and Harry Potter) both of which I made a point of seeing because they played on IMAX screens. If the movie's not on an IMAX screen, I'm not interested.
In other Althouse-exhausted movie news, I just saw Batman Begins and really liked it. The al Quaeda connection w/ Ra's Al Ghul wasn't there for me, but I saw where you were coming from, Ann.
- Aspasia M. said...
The movie will also appeal to straight women. Two hot men -
Remember the "Sex and the City" episode where the girls are watching gay male porn?
- Icepick said...
DTL, perhaps you would be more convincing if you read what I wrote. As it is, I can only assume you are one of those people whose only joy in life is being insulted, so thta you can start hurling invective in any and all directions.
But since you bring it up, I have no reason to go see this movie. The main characters sound like awful people, and the situation sounds tedious. It looks roughly equivalent to Boys Don't Cry in those respects. But that's not what's insulting. That's merely a question of personal taste in movies.
What's insulting is the passive-aggresive attitude Hollywood is taking in the marketing of this film. It's just BEGGING for someone to start a fuss over it so they can tell us what bigots we are. Sorry, I'll pass.
But this is just a part of the problem. We also get a series of George Clooney movies that have very obvious political content, a series of Michael Moore films telling us how stupid we are, etc., etc. It's just effing tiresome. Meanwhile the 'popular' movies are basically overproduced crap.
But if you want to persist in just calling everyone who doesn't want to rush out and see this particular movie over and over again homophobes, fine, be my guest. But don't pretend to be anything other than someone who is intentionally looking to be insulted so that you can proclaim your moral superiority to the rest of the world. How tedious.
- Icepick said...
Palladian, who do you expect to make movies that will intentionally lose money? Someone has to shell out the dollars for these things. If someone with lots of money wants to produce artistic films that lose money, more power to them. But the industry won't survive without someone somewhere making a profit at least some of the time.
But this movie is probably going to make a healthy profit for all concerned. It's a relatively cheap production from a well-known and well-respected director and it's getting a big push from the studio. It's already off to a good start and all of the Oscar buzz will help. If this movie doesn't turn a profit it will be because the studio spent to much on marketing, but really the marketing campaign hasn't been THAT big.
But it's unlikely to be a blockbuster and seems unlikely to make $100M in the theatres. Still, making money is the thing that allows Ang Lee to keep making films, and this kind of success will keep him happy and probably making the movies he wants to make.
Something I haven't heard mentioned in these threads, although maybe it was mentioned in a linked article, is that in regions where this movie does well it will likely be VERY popular with theatre owners.
The contracts the studios have with the theatres usually involves the studios getting the biggest share of the pie for the first week or two a film is in the theatre, with theatres getting bigger percentages of the take the longer a movie plays. Most movies these days make all or most of their money in the first two weeks, so the theatres get the short end of the stick. (Thus the exorbitant prices on foodstuffs.) But this movie isn't playing on that many screens, and is likely to do steady business for weeks where it does play strong. Brokeback Mountain will likely make some theatres more money playing on one screen to packed shows for 8 or nine weeks than King Kong will make for them in a run on several screens for three or four weeks, with a trickle of people coming in later. This isn't the kind of thing to 'save' the industry, but those houses that get these small hits will be grateful for the additional revenue.
Sorry for the rambling post, but it's late.
- Ann Althouse said...
In the comments to the earlier post, I wrote about the trailer:
"Terrible trailer, geared to people who aren't very bright and are very sentimental about gay people, that is, I'm thinking, middle class women, as imagined by Hollywood nitwits."
So that's my answer about the demographics. The movie is geared to women. The story was written by a woman too, published in the New Yorker. Who reads short stories in the New Yorker? Women! Obviously, gay men are the natural audience, but the movie is basically being marketed to women. I think if gay men were being targeted as the audience, as opposed to assumed as part of the audience, the movie, the casting, the ad campaign -- everything would be different.
- Aspasia M. said...
I agree with Ann about her analysis of the demographics.
Of course it's geared to women! This movie looks like it's filled with romance, some melodrama, analysis of relationships, and two hot men dressed up as cowboys. (Who cares about art? Maybe they'll take off their shirts! But I have low tastes.) The cowboy theme is definitely geared to attract a female audience.
I haven't seen the trailer, but the movie poster seemed to convey the above characteristics. I don't like melodrama, but the possibility of shirt-less-ness may be enough to drive me into the theater.
- lindsey said...
The movie poster is practically stolen from Titanic. It's uncanny.
- Ann Althouse said...
Lindsey: I think they've been open about talking about the similarity to "Titanic" in the poster. And look at the similarities: the presentation of the story: the doomed lovers, the narrow society that told them they could not be together, a very large object that forms the setting for their love and gives the title to the movie.
- downtownlad said...
I never said that people who don't watch this movie are homophobes. In fact I said the complete opposite. Do you always go around putting words into people's mouths?
Again - it's just strange that you're so insulted by a movie about two gay men. Most people wouldn't care.
- downtownlad said...
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- Icepick said...
DTL made this comment, directed at me: So it "insults" you when Hollywood makes a movie that acknowledges two gay people are human.
First, I never said I was insulted by this movie. In fact, in the post I referred to, I didn't mention that I was offended at all.
Later I did explain why I find Hollywood's marketing of this movie insulting. As for the movie itself, it just looks like a movie about awful people in tedious situations. I don't really care for such movies, so I'll pass. Ang Lee has enough credibility in my book that I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that he's not trying to insult or inflame. It just looks boring.
So, to reitereate and sum up, I find Hollywood in general to be annoying and insulting to that wide swath of the populace known as Middle America. This movie I just don't care to see, although the marketing seems designed to offend for the sake of causing a stir. Clear?
And your earlier comment about me being insulted by a movie "that acknowledges two gay people are human" is clearly implying homophobia, or at least priggishness, on my part. Especially since I have explicitely stated REPEATEDLY now that I am not offended by this movie. But no doubt you will once again accuse me such, so just go right ahead.
- downtownlad said...
Here's what you said icepick:
"But if Hollywood wants to keep pissing those folks off by constantly insulting them, then fine."
Again - how is making a movie about two gay people "insulting" to people? Your words, not mine.
"movie I just don't care to see, although the marketing seems designed to offend for the sake of causing a stir. Clear?
No. It's not clear at all. It looks like a movie about two gay men in love. How does that offend?
Again - I never said you were a homophobe. But if you think that a movie about two gay men is offensive and insulting, then I can see how other people might jump to a different conclusion.
Again. Very strange.
- Ron said...
I wonder if Rich thinks, "Let's see...west of the Hudson...Why, it's full of cowboys! Until you get to LA! They'll love it!"
- Goatwhacker said...
DTL, you are kind of sending some mixed messages and I'm not sure what your exact position is either. I understand you are not saying anyone who doesn't go see the movie is a homophobe, but if I understand you right you feel homophobia is the major determinant on whether one goes to see the movie or not.
Your definition of homophobia, which boils down to anyone who doesn't support gay marriage, is rather broad. I would think it is possible for someone to believe gay people can fall in love and still be against legal recognition of gay marriages.
I doubt I'll see this movie in the theater, but might see it on DVD. It does sound like a boring movie. It also bugs my contrary nature that there's this undercurrent that this is an IMPORTANT movie and I should ought to see it so I can broaden my horizens.
I had the good fortune to live in Wyoming for four years, and yes they do have theaters there. Surprisingly, I did not beat up anyone of any sexual orientation while I lived there.
- Jim said...
Ann Althouse said, "Who reads short stories in the New Yorker? Women!"
Well I'm a man who reads the New Yorker. Let me see....
Well son of a gun, there ARE short stories in the magazine. I wondered what all those pages between the non-fiction and the movie reviews were. Now I know.
- Big Dog said...
Gays are at most 2-3% of the population. The movie was cheap, so it will still make money. I won't see it simply because of gay jerks like who question everyone else's motives and try to make them look mental. By the way, Matthew Shephard isn't the only person to every be murdered in the U.S., just the only one gays seem to care about. So, now are you going to track me 'round the internet and flame me?
- downtownlad said...
DTL, you are kind of sending some mixed messages and I'm not sure what your exact position is either. I understand you are not saying anyone who doesn't go see the movie is a homophobe, but if I understand you right you feel homophobia is the major determinant on whether one goes to see the movie or not.
Wrong. I haven't seen this movie yet either. I really couldn't care less if someone else sees this movie. As a gay man, I find the subject matter interesting, but if it was about two lesbians my interest in seeing it would probably be less - as it would be harder for me to relate to it. But then again, I wouldn't go around saying that a movie about two lesbians was "insulting" and "offensive".
Your definition of homophobia, which boils down to anyone who doesn't support gay marriage, is rather broad. I would think it is possible for someone to believe gay people can fall in love and still be against legal recognition of gay marriages.
Well, if someone is against full equality for gay people, then yes, I consider them to be homophobic. Are there degrees of homophobia? Of course. But I have no qualms telling my mother that she's a homophobe since she's against gay marriage, so I fail to see why I can't tell the same thing to a stranger who's trying to deny me my rights.
- downtownlad said...
No Big Dog. You seem to have an obsession with everything gay, and are going from thread to thread trying to find gay topics to comment about.
Again - I'll just call your obsession with gay people, hmmm - how do I put this... a little queer.
And sorry - gays are more than 2-3% of the population. Even in the exit polls, 4% of this country self-identified as gay. Something Jack and Ennis (closeted gays) surely wouldn't do, so the number is surely higher.
- Jacob said...
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- downtownlad said...
Jacob - I haven't seen the movie, so I don't think I'm spoiling anything. Just going off of what I've read in reviews.
Besides - everyone said they don't want to see the movie.
- Ann Althouse said...
Downtown lad: that's a COMPLETELY unacceptable spoiler. I deleted your comment. Here's what you had with the spoiler removed:
Ann - It's not the narrow society that tells them they can't be together. It's actually their own narrow selves that prevent them from being together.
The movie takes place between 1963 and the early 80's. Thus, it spans the gay rights movement. Ennis represents the gays of the old West, totally closeted, unable to come to terms with himself. Jack represents the gays of the new West, willing to forge a life for another man and not as concerned with what others think.
The movie and story are more of a commentary on that, than it is on a narrow society. Although [DELETED] at the end might be misinterpreted as a commentary on society - but I actually think that is referring more [DELETED].
- Ann Althouse said...
Jacob: I deleted your post, which complained about spoiling, because it repeated the spoiler. Here's what you had with the spoiler now deleted:
Remember the "Sex and the City" episode where the girls are watching gay male porn?
I brought biscotti... :)
[DELETED] at the end might be misinterpreted as a commentary on society
Er- spoiler?
By the way, Matthew Shephard isn't the only person to every be murdered in the U.S., just the only one gays seem to care about.
See here's the funny thing... I know many gay people and all of them care about many people who have been murdered. But I'm sure you're right, I guess they're all pretending to advance the Homosexual Agenda.
- downtownlad said...
Woops! Sorry bout that.
I didn't see the movie, but just talked to a friend who did and he said my description is innacurate, for what it's worth.
- HaloJonesFan said...
A comment: What I've heard about "Brokeback Mountain" makes it sound like those movies where "lesbian" translates to "hot bi babe"; only the characters are men, and the movie's marketed towards women.
In other words, this is a Penthouse letters-page story, only aimed at women instead of men.
- reader_iam said...
My oh my, this most seems much ado about not much.
Of course, this movie is being marketed to women. Movies with gay themes often are. Or at least that's my perception.
And it seems to me we're tripping over a lot of stereotypes around here, and not just having to do with gay people.
It's true that this movie isn't playing in my community of Davenport, IA, right now. But that's not because there's been some sort of shocked outrage at the thought of such a theme, much less some groundswell of protest over offended community standards.
It's because the PTB in Hollywood decided it wouldn't play here--and I can't help but think due to some stereotyping of their own (and yes, yes, I know they do market research as well. However, I tend to believe in what Twain said about statistics.)
This is not a big city. There are lots of openly gay people here. In about three minutes, I could walk to at least 7 households comprised of that demographic in this immediate neighborhood alone. The town even has a (self-proclaimed, specifically named) Rainbow (entertainment) District.
I'm not saying everything is always hunky-dory; nothing ever is. True, this isn't San Francisco. But what the hell is? And SF has its issues, too.
I'm a little tired (not offended, not insulted: just tired) of stereotypes of middle America, so-called red staters, and even Bush voters. NONE OF THOSE THINGS are automatic designators, much less synonymous, with homophobia.
Frank Rich is as insular and prejudiced in his own way as the most stereotypical so-called church lady in East Gybyp. I've spent plent of time with both types, and that's simply the plain, flat-out truth.
There, I'm done, with one P.S.: I do plan on seeing the movie, in whatever form.
- Joan said...
I'm vaguely curious to see how this movie does, too. In limited release over the past 2 weeks, it has the highest per-theater average revenues, but that still only adds up to $3.5M. Will it even go into wide release? If it doesn't, it isn't going to be able to generate much revenue. If it does, it's per-theater revenue is going to plummet.
I think the Rotten Tomatoes box office list is enlightening. Crap like "Yours, Mine, and Ours", with only a 6% approval rating, made $1M more than "Brokeback Mountain" last week, even though it has been out 2 weeks longer. Yeah, YM&O is in wide release, and it's only pulling in $1.3K per theater, but $1M is still a lot of money, and a lot of tickets sold.
I wonder how much time Frank Rich spends looking at this data.
- downtownlad said...
They do plan on a wider release in January, when it will roll out to 400 theaters. It's only playing in 70 or so right now.
Same with Memoirs of a Geisha, and not really that different than other art-house Oscar flicks.
- Joe Baby said...
Credit to the movie studio. As with those deep space satellites, they are using a slingshot effect to propel this film past its teeny audience into the mainstream.
This thing will win awards, IMO. Nothing to do with merit, however. The awards don't look at merit.
That said, I think a general public gets tired of the Hollywood that despises moralizing except their own. And when Hollywood gets didatic, ugg -- run and hide.
- knoxgirl said...
"Chris saw "Syriana" and said it was one of the most boring movies he's ever seen."
I suspected it was a snoozer. Steven Soderberg (sp?) needs to stop trying to make all these topical movies like "Traffic" and "Erin Brockovich" (sp? sheesh) and just stick to movies with good plot and characters. Like "Out of Sight."
off topic again!
- TWM said...
A good friend went to see Syriana this weekend and his review was that one terrible word - Boring! A killer indeed.
As to Brokeback Mountain. Well, I suppose if every gay person in the country goes it will be successful, but since gay people can tell a loser movie just as well as straight people, I don't see that happening.
Ann says the movie is being marketed toward women. Well, if that is the case the marketing failed. My wife jumps at the slightest chance to see a movie for women -- and she hasn't paid the slightest bit of attention to this one. Why? It is a cowboy (sheep hearder) movie. And those rarely get the attention of women no matter who is kissing in them.
But hey, it doesn't matter what the box office is, Hollywood makes movies for Hollywood, not for people. It has, and will, win all sorts of awards for political reasons if nothing else.
And box office receipts will continue their deline.


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i belive if ur "strigt freinds "were really stright they wouldnt let u suck theem off no matter how horney they are one of my so called stright freinds told me afher he was really gay so watch out u may be the one getting fooled
i belive if ur "strigt freinds "were really stright they wouldnt let u suck theem off no matter how horney they are one of my so called stright freinds told me afher he was really gay so watch out u may be the one getting fooled
I can't begin to list the str8 friends I have sucked off. And yes, they were truly str8, no reciprocation and they have all since married and have kids. They all knew I was bi. I seduced some of them, but many came on to me. Several I sucked for years. All I ever got was a hand job here and there, but I did get great big mouthfuls of cum and some great memories. And not one got mad at me and stopped being my friend. All true.
I can't believe this is so common, honestly. True, I am not out, but I can't even imagine asking a straight friend if I could do that. I virtually always have feelings for my male friends, and dream about something like that happening. All the straight guys I know don't seem to be interested at all, am I missing something here?
I must be missing something too. I have many straight friends who are very hot. Coincidence? Anyway, they all know that i have "gay tendencies" and am "artsy" but I do not think that they think I am actually bi. It isnt their fault, they have only seen me with girls, but I have always dreamed of sucking off a couple of them. When I was in college I used to get as drunk as possible with my one friend in the hopes that something would happen one night but it never did.
I have another friend, who I think is bi also, who got very drunk with me a few months back and we passed out together in my bed. Anyway, I woke up in the middle of the night rubbing his dick. It was hard and I think I thought it was mine at first. Anyway, I am stroking him off and he reaches over, puts his hand down my pants and starts stroking me off! I jerked him harder and he came all over my hand. It was awesome, I came too(obviously) and went back to sleep. We never talked about it, but he has since told a mutual friend of ours' mother that i am definately gay. LOL! The good news is that although I had been sort of crushing on him, I found out that night that I have a much bigger dick than he does! His is a very bent, 5 incher with tiny, but very soft, balls. I have since gotten over my crush because, after all, I don't want no short, short man! Just kidding, but what an [email protected]#l!
I was 18, in my first year at university and was having a hard time adjusting. i was still unsure about my sexuality, still hoping that these 'thoughts' would go away. I'm very shy and lack confidence and was finding it hard settling in. I think what happened to me was planned - sounds odd, but the set up was too uncanny. This may take a while but here goes...
On the open day for this university a girl started chatting to me and my mum. She was on her own and stuck with us for the day. We were both planning on the same course but weren't sure if this was the right place for us. So we said goodbye and that was that.
First day at this uni arrived and I moved into halls. I was shocked to see that this girl had picked the same uni and had ended up in the room opposite mine. Small world. After a week she moved to another campus for one reason or another and a new guy took her room. He was this scary looking guy. Very tall, well built, and tattoos. The kind of guy you would be scared of. However he was shockingly good looking - Dark hairs, amazing eyes and smile. All the girls loved him. He turned heads everywhere. He made himself comfortable very quickly and I didn't like him. I guess I was jealous of his confidence whereas I was still struggling. He was straight after all the girls and desperate to shag as many as possible.
One evening we both got left on our own and started chatting. He turned out to be really cool and we hit it off amazingly well. From that point on we were inseparable. I really looked up to him and loved that he was a gentle giant. Our conversations started to change and he'd ask me things like 'have you j/o since being here? How many times? Etc. We would stay in each others rooms and watch films for hours on end. We knew people were talking about us, but we thought it was funny. I saw him naked one day and kept that image in my head. I knew that i wanted him, but would never ever do anything. He told me that he wished I'd complimented his cock size, as that's what mates do. I wasn't sure about that one though.
Anyway, the months rolled by. We were very affectionate with each other, sharing single beds, hugging and even pecking when exchanging gifts etc. It was very homoerotic.
Christmas came and this was the first time we were apart in 3 months. He gave me a card with 'Brother' on it - as this is what we regarded our relationship to be like.
That holiday I spent hours fantasising about him, imagining how great it would be for that porn movie cliché to come true.
The first day back and he gave me a huge hug. We walked about the grounds together, his arm around me and he told me how much he'd missed me. That night we got pissed in my room. We sat, kind of hugging, but that was normal for us. Then things changed.
We were very drunk, he more so then me. He became upset and annoyed about stuff and I was scared of him. I tried to calm him down but he just got more upset. He pulled faces like he was battling with something and I was part of that. Before I knew it, we were hugging and he pulled away and gave me this odd look. My heart was pounding and I read the signals. I said to him that he looked like he was going to kiss me - and he did -On the cheeks and then lips. He then broke away and looked mad. I decided to provoke it more and said that I didnt think it wasn't how he really wanted to kiss me. He grabbed me and we kissed properly, my heart was pounding, my head confused and scared. He then freaked out and ran off.
I caught up with him and after much trouble got him back in my room. You could get in big trouble if you caused too much noise after 1am and I didn't want that.
I told him that nothing matters and we should just get some sleep. He got in my bed and we both lay there. I still wanted him though and that kiss wasn't enough. I decided to try once more and told him to say goodnight to me. He rolled over and kissed me again. This time we didn't stop. I was hard as anything and could feel precum soaking my shorts. I was nervous that if he felt my hard on he would freak out and so I decided to see if he was hard too. He was!! I slid my hand down his boxers and felt his ass. It was firm, slightly hairy and amazing. we took each others clothes off and I played with his cock (I have to be honest, for a man of his size, he wasn't well proportioned down there!!) we rolled over and I went down on him. It was the first time Id ever felt a man's cock before and I remember thinking it was odd. I sucked him off and loved every minute. He then rolled me over and started doing the same. He was eager though to be in me and I was not up for that. Before I knew it, he had tried to enter me. I guess only the tip of his helmet got in but the pain was hell and i had to stop it. He looked worried, but I had to brush him off and focus on my pain. That ended that.
The next morning things were bad. He freaked out when he woke up naked next to me and swore blind he couldn't remember things. It hurt me so much. My head was all over the place and I felt so alone. Our friendship never really got over that night, we became colder with each other and I slumped into a deeper depression. He tripped over himself a few times which told me he did know what happened that night but he'd never admit to me.
It took me ages to get over him and I missed our friendship so much. For the next two years at uni we had very little to do with each other. Despite everything though and the hellish way he treated me, I still wanted closure. I wanted him to accept that night and what we had. He had a string of girlfriends and was breaking hearts all over the place.
In my final year, i got my closure. I decided to go to him and chat and we openly discussed everything. Hed missed me too. He said he was 'sexual' but not gay or bi. I said that this was the last time we'd see each other and I wished him all the best. As I was leaving we had one final hug, before I knew it we were back in bed and it was magic.
When I left, I said to him that he won't forget that one in a hurry and he told me that he'll remember it always.
I've not seen him since, but have had some messages now and again. He's moved to Australia and has got married. As for me, well that night changed my life. It made me accept who I am and made me a much stronger person. Despite the pain I suffered it was the best thing to happen and the perfect time. I learnt so much from that event. Now 8 years on I'm in a great long term relationship with an amazing guy. So things worked out all round!
oh gods, get me a box of tissues, before I flood the server!
I'm not really sure if the guy I blew was straight or bisexual, but the sad thing about the whole thing was I didn't even know he was into girls. I was on the internet one day when I saw this screen name that caught my eye. I started talking to the guy when we decided to hook up (Of course after telling him I was gay and love sucking cock.) It was pretty much all we agreed too do when we hooked up. He came over to my house about 30 minutes after chatting and of course I gave him a blow job, but here's the sad thing...He didn't even last 2 minutes...I mean I'm sucking this guy and I'm bobbing up and down on his cock (which was small by the way) when all of a sudden he started screaming he was cumming. ( I mean all I did was sucked the head of his cock and when I went down on him...meaning deep throating his cock about 3 times) the guy was ready to shoot his load. After he came he thanked me and left only to later e-mail me and ask to hook up again if I ever wanted too. A month or so went by when all of a sudden his screen name popped up on my buddy list. I e-mailed him and too my surprise I sat and had a long non sexual conversation with him. I gave him my phone number and told him to give me a call. My phone ranged and I answered it (mind you this was about 2 seconds after we chat) and it turned out to be some girl who wanted to know who I was and said she was dating the guy and would like to know if I was gay or not. I lied to her and said NO and told her I knew her boyfriend from my job and that he was a customer that I had once helped.
ok, I want to have sex with my straight friend!!
I have had sex with several "curiously" straight friends....Originally Posted by blooeyz
I think what "Bothers" me most ... or, rather, what I Regret most ... is realizing just how "Curious" most Guys are! I mean, now that I'm older, and "wiser", I'm just now understanding how much more "Fun" I could have had with my "Str8" friends, if only I'd been a bit more "aggressive" when the opportunities presented themselves!!
WISDOM is the Knowledge you've gained ... After you could have used it! _Me
i am a 21 years student from INDIA. this is a very conservative country. we don't take shower in front of others. even we
don't change our dress (i mean be naked ) in front of other male.my college is far apart from my home. this is the final year of my graduation & i have a lots of pressure of my study. so now i am staying as a paying guest near my college with another guy. He is also in
my college. he is very handsome.i always fantasize about him. he has a sexy hairy chest.
one day while changing dress, he accidentaly dropped his towel & i got a chance to see him naked for only 2 or 3 seconds.
beleive me, it was the first time that i saw a man nude in front of me.earlier i saw nude man only in porn movie or in internet.after the situation
he felt very embarass & shy , but i told him that ' it's ok '.later i started to seduce him in many way , because i wanted to see him naked again
& wanted to see a clear view of his penis. i have also told him that if he is interested to see my penis, he can. but he avoid all of my traps.i think he is straight .can anyone refer my
a proper way to seduce him. a few months is left to completing my graduation & i want to do sex with him before that , because after graduation i may loose contact with him . somebody help me.
My first time to suck off a str8 friend was in 1969. I was a junior in HS and a friend of mine was having a stag party for his 17th birthday. There must have been 20 or so guys and we all got shit faced and stoned. After some rough-housing, someone yelled, "let's wrestle like the Greeks did" and with that, we stripped down to our underwear and got with it.
The birthday boy, a major athlete in school and I were the only ones still conscious when I did something that even now seems to be totally stupid and dangerous - I made a move on him. He was seated and I got on my knees between his legs and pulled his briefs off and just went down on him. He was immediately erect (ah, the good old days) and I went to town. He just laid back and finally rewarded me with blast after blast of his hot juice. He pushed me off, pulled up his briefs and somehow, I made it to a sofa in the other room. That was a Saturday night.
On Monday, I was sweating up a storm. I wasn't even sure it had happened, but I was scared to death it would be all over school. I got a few strange looks that week and my best friend came up to me and asked me if it was true. I said it's total BS and if you are my friend, you won't believe it for a second.
That summer, I had a fling with a 16 y/o down the street from where I lived. He was much more experienced than I (had been acting in Little Theater for a few years, haha). He taught me much and I made him happy in return.
But John was my first str8 boy.
One of my first experiences was with a straight man. he was letting me suck him off. One thing led to another and we were soon doing 69. I do not think he had ever had a cock in his mouth befor. I got so excited and could not hold back and shot ! He freeked out a little as if he had never seen cum befor. It was never discussed again. I think he was afraid I would tell his other straight friends.And always flanted his girl friends in front of me.
It was one of the highlites of my teen years!
Why are realy good Bi pixs so hard to find ? anyone have a good gallerie?
I was round my mates nans house and we had to share this single bed.(this was when i was 15 so bout 4 years ago). neways we started pissin about and wresting. then he grabbs my dick and i grab his and then we started tossing each other off. afterwards i said that i regretted it and he said the same. about 2 weeks later he told me that he was only sayin it coz i did. HE LOVED IT!!
o/~ I'm a lumberjack and I'm okay, I'm straight by day but at night I'm gay! o/~
As the Divine Miss M crooned "That's WhatFriends Are For".
My God, you lucky guy, boatnhard. Good luck
Where da fawk do you guys live?? Why am I not there??!? Something's in the water where you are from... damnit!
Straight dicks are so hot.
it happened to me two times. it all began when i was 16. we were best friends at the time and with another friend we went camping. we got drunj sitting at camp fire ane he kept saying that one of us should be a woman, so we could be together. he even gave me a kiss on the cheek that night-a really big one. if there wasn't for the third friend we'd hit off. few weeks later i was home alone, he came over and we got drunk. we were talking and he said he dares to kiss me. i thought he wouldn't...
Well he did kiss me and we made out for some time. eventually i said we could have sex and he wasn't hesitating. we got to my bed and he said he'd suck me if i sucked him. i pulled his pants down, leaving him with boxers on. he was hard. i went down but didn't take boxers off. i was to scared. nothing happened that night. few months later we celebrated my bday, got drunk and on the way home i told him i wanted to suck him and that it would be a perfect gift...
We went to his flat. i sat on his bed, he came sitting next to me and said:come over here if you want anything. we started kissing and with time i moved my head to his crotch. i was so scared but at the same time i knew i will like every second of it. he blew me as well and kept saying how nice my cock was, although his was bigger. it was awsome. it happened once more. we were returning home, he asked me if i'd go to him. he said: we've had fun last time!
i had a straight friend suck me off this afternoon! It's his birthday and I invited him to a restaurant for lunch. We had a great time although he drank a bit too much. When we got back to my house he laid down on the sofa. I went to the kitchen to do a few things and when I got back to the living room- abou 10 minutes later- he was naked and jerking off! He asked me if he could suck my cock!!! Well, it is his birthday. He said he wants to do something new every year on his birthday and that was it. I hope his ass is ready to be fucked next year.
what is it about alcohol and straight guys.
I've also given / received hand jobs and/or oral from "Str-8" guys and NO alchol was involved at all .
But; then again .... the alcohol does take away their inhibations ect .
" Life Is A Garden .. Dig It ! "
"A Man Without A Purpose Is Like A Ship WithOut A Rudder "
I have a straight friend that I have worked on for several years and just recently went the final few yards for a touch down. He is beautiful, handsome, whatever, long, long brown hair, a swimmers body, wonderful lips. He is married with three kids. For two years he has mentioned in casual conversations about problems with his wife, occasionally they will be sex related. One on-going frustation is she will not blow him-and of course that is what he wants most. I never comment only nod and be a good friend acting as a sounding board. I knew he suspected but he never let on that he was asking for anything from me. Well about six months ago whenever the lack of sex issues would come up I would insert a few comments-you will have to find other outlets, that type of thing. And then last month the perfect opportunity. He was over bitching about his wife as he was hanging some pictures for me. I was holding the ladder listening to his I get everything but head speech when I just gently moved my face forward and straight into his crotch. We both were in the perfect position. My face was just at zipper height and my mouth landed right on his dick. Even with his pants and underwear I could feel him and neither of us moved for what seemed like minutes. Then he started getting hard.
Well the rest is history. I gently removed him from his pants/underwear and started gently sucking. Once he was totally hard I knew no matter he would not say stop so I did and invited him off the ladder and onto my sofa. He moved quickly but quietly neither of us saying a word. It was wonderful. I removed all his clothing and discovered a wonderful hairy chest and drop dead incredible thighs. I not only sucked him but worshipped every muscle in his body. He all but had a heart attack.
He came, I swallowed. He confessed he had wondered for two years if that was every going to happen and I made him promise that whenever he felt he needed a blow he would let me know. I would NEVER turn him down. That was a month and three blows ago. It did change our friendship some, he no longer comes around to fix things for me but only when he wants his dick serviced but hey I am okay with that. I love having him know he can trust me and that I can do something for him that his wife won't.
So it took two years but worked out and so far has been only positive.
I remembered I did it once.I was with a very good straight friend of mine on the net, chatting, it was about 12pm and I felt he was already hot and I decided to make him so excited that he could do nothing than jerking off behind his screen.He told me he was very frustrated by his girlfriend at that time.I didn't expect that he 'd tell me he would take his bike and come to my house.I was quite panicked but I opened to him.In fact, I was already with my boyfriend whom I warned before he arrived.My bfriend told me to do it, hoping to take part into this little game.When he arrived, he told me he wanted me to suck him and he kissed me.He didn't want a three way so that my boyfriend had to stay calm as if he was sleeping just over on the mezzanine(how awful).My boyfriend was disgusted at the beginning but he told me that I had warned him and that he had accepted the challenge with its risks!But My straight friend's dick was so good and he told me my lips and tongue were too!!After that my boyfriend and I have had several three ways which always happened very well and are really happy together since 6 years.
Once, and it was only about a few month ago too. It was June 2nd. My roommate and I had some people come over just for BBQ. When ever you have beer and a few cocktails things can get out of hand. What was four in the afternoon became four in the morining, my roommate and I told everbody that it was cool that they can sleep over,and they did. So I went to go to sleep in my own bed, I was just about to fall asleep when I felt someone pulling on my right arm. I looked up it was Raymond. Raymond he is this light skinned latin male. His has a punk skater look to him, very good looking. So now I'm kind of awake, I move over so that he could sleep on my bed, that is what I thought that was what he wanted. I so found out that he wanted more. We soon started to kiss each other, and while I was kissing him I was rubbing his chest. My hand moved slowly down to his cock, once that my hand was over Raymond's cock. He quickly removed his pants, and with out question I started to suck him off. As I was sucking his cock, I looked up at Raymond and I asked him if he wanted to fuck me. Raymond looked that me for a moment and got up and started to lick my butt, then he put his cock in me and pounded my ass. I loved every minute of it.
Psssssst your balls are showing.
I did suck off one of best freinds back in high school. It was great and there was no problems.
I haven't even tried asking my friends or even hinting at them, but I imagine that the whole awkardness thing after won't make the bj worth it...
I found one of the EASIEST ways to suck off a str=8 friend ... is to watch str-8 porn with the intended ... when a girl is sucking him ; just mention "DAMM, she's not doing it very good ..I could do a lot better than that" .... I've have several str-8 friends take the "Bait" and it did not affect our friendship ....
" Life Is A Garden .. Dig It ! "
"A Man Without A Purpose Is Like A Ship WithOut A Rudder "
Personally speaking ... If a guy will suck off ANY Tom, Dick, 'n Harry who is str-8 or not ... yeah; that is kinda slutty and even Whoreish ...
However; if you have a str-8 bud, and you and he have something going ... and he is the only guy you are with ... more or less .. then I believe that is ok ...
I realize than MANY will disagree with me ; BUT .. that is MY opinion .. for whatever it is worth ..
" Life Is A Garden .. Dig It ! "
"A Man Without A Purpose Is Like A Ship WithOut A Rudder "
I love suckin off str8 dudes. It got a lot easier to score with one after I came out,
I was surprised how many hinted at wanting to try it with a dude.
Of course my favorite is the cop who lives across from me, I have been blowin him for a while now. He is married with two kids, loves his wife but she don't don't work his cock the way I can. Lotta str8 guys complain about the way most chicks give head, as one put it "it's always awesome when a dude does it"
In my experience with my married supervisor, we ain't talking love here. He was horny because his wife was pregnant, he wasn't getting any, and he had a neediness to be complimented. I'd compliment his cowboy boots, his nails, his hair - and he'd look thrilled because all he ever hears from his stay-at-home wife is, "I want a new SUV, so you'd better make more money."
He doesn't touch me, he just likes getting head. He likes getting neck and feet massages, but has this look of panic if I walk around and he thinks he'll have to reciprocate.
I'm making myself a slut for this particular straight guy, but there's no expectation of a relationship beyond this mutually beneficial bit of fun. Sure, I'd rather be in a real relationship, but sometimes 'friends with benefits' is better than nothing at all.
I'd be rady for some kind of sexy activity whenever the chance came my way, whether it's with a girl or a guy - but the key is giving out the right signals and being alert to the answers coming back - and I guess the constant refrain of many guys wanting to know how to get there, is how can they get that two-way communication going. I suppose in the right circumstances the question have you ever fancied a blow job might be the key.
I'll try that on some of my 'metrosexual' younger friends and see whether I get a black eye or they tell my family!! Or they agree that it might be fun.
how do you hint at fooling around with a straight friend who doesn't know you're gay?
Well, I had done 3 straight guys, separately (of course), and it was because they needed to get their rocks off. Just blowjob. Guess it comes to either they are desperate, horny or curious.
Of course they are cute.
There is still one I am dying to help out, but he is not into it. Gay-friendly guy, but never into a gay blowjob. Damn!
Grateful is the word. We are just as horny as they are.
Just last week one of my good (completely straight) friends and I where talking about relationships and how we both can't seem to get into a serious one or even find someone to just fool around with. At some point during the movie we where watching that evening, he said something along the lines of "If you and I are ever dead drunk and I'm very, very much so in need of getting blown off, I'll let you do me."
Worst part is that 1) I don't drink aside from taking the occasional sip from someone's glass of wine, 2) he hasn't partaken of that much alcool in ages and 3) while I have mused on the subject for a long time and even proposed to a friend when I came out to a few people a couple years back, I'd 99.99999999% wouldn't do it out of fear of alienating others if it get out that something happened (even if it's none of there business.) Yeah, I'm fucked up.
O.K.! The entire "Thing" comes down to "Deniability"! Do Str8 Guys like getting their dicks sucked? Of course they do! Do they really Care if it's a Guy, or Girl, doing them?? Of course not! (Unless we're talking about Quality! ) And, to even take it a step further, do they like Fucking? You betcha! Human Males are built to Fuck just about anybody, or anything, at anytime, as long as they can stick "It" into something and get to "Banging"!! (As long as it's not Them on the recieving "End"! Str8's seem to draw the Line at that!) (But ... still ... some will still !)
So ... we "cum" to the supporting role of alcohol! They're really willing to DO it, while sober, but they need an Excuse to DO it, and still not be labelled as "Gay"! They need to be able to claim they didn't know what they were doing, eventhough they'd been thinking of how to get it to happen for months!!
venimax, your Bud just gave you permission to suck him off! He WANTS You to Blow Him!! However ... He also needs an "Out"! Not an "Out" of his Closet! THAT would scare the crap out of Him! But He does want a BJ! He just needs a "cover"! Know what I mean?? Hope you can "cum up" with one for Him ... and You!!
Keep smilin'!!
WISDOM is the Knowledge you've gained ... After you could have used it! _Me
my friend and i are both 18 and he thinks i'm straight. what are some good ways to fool around with him (subtle) without porn or alcohol?
LOGIC has Nothing to do with this! We're talking about Hormones! The "URGE" to get off! The underlying "instigation" of our DNA to disseminate itself! Our "Little Heads" are not programmed to Think! They're merely guided by the Impulse to DO!! It's the "Animal" in ALL of Us Males!
What "We" actually do about it is entirely "UP!" to our "Big Heads"! Do we abandon all Reason and just let things Flow? Do "We" Give In? Or, do "We" reign ourselves in, and override our "Libido"?
Am I a Gay Guy? You bet! Have I always Acted like a Gay Guy? Nope! I've had more than my "Fair Share" of experiences with the "Fairer Sex"! And, I must admit, truely enjoyed most of it!! And, even, Cherish all of those "adventures"! Despite it not being my "True" Nature!
Have I also ventured into the "unmentionable" with Str8 Guys? You bet! I'm even "Godfather" to some of their kids!!
All I'm saying is that Guys will be GUYS! Given the right circumstances and opportunities! It's when they venture beyond the rehlm of "Thought" that things get Interesting!
Can I speak for ALL Guys, Str8 or Gay? Of course not! I can only speak from my own Personal experiences! And ... having been on this planet for nearly 56yr., I think I can speak with some modicum of "Wisdom"!
By the way ... to JUB! And I sincerely hope your own Adventures "Here" will prove to be Rewarding and Enjoyable!
And ... of course ... no matter what ...
Keep smilin'!!
WISDOM is the Knowledge you've gained ... After you could have used it! _Me
I have this one friend who came over to my place, and although he knew I was gay, and possibly interested in him, he got used to the idea eventually. A long time wait - almost 2 years since I knew him.
So, he came over, and then I helped him to finish some tasks, and eventually the talks went into sex talks, and one thing led to another, he watched straight porn with me at my place.
Nothing, seriously nothing happened. Initially.
And when I thought he wanted to go back, he was hesitating at my door. He was blushing, and all that shy, and I still could not figure out what the cute guy wanted. Eventually, he told me - to keep it a secret - if I could give him a blowjob, since that he had broken up with his gf. He was still shy, and adorable, and I could not resist / reject.
So, I knelt down, and took his shorts off, and blew him.
He came back for more. : )
I was really thankful for my porn collection. : p
lol besides the squabble, any help here?
i'll go over it again:
no alcohol, porn, motels etc. its either in a backyard or somewhere open. we're both 18 and all i'm asking is how to fool around that's not obvious (ex. hey wanna wrestle? - a bit obvious).
also, he thinks im straight.
thnx guys.
anyone...? lol


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I have received a mail regarding the early development of the OpenBSD IPSEC stack. It is alleged that some ex-developers (and the company they worked for) accepted US government money to put backdoors into our network stack, in particular the IPSEC stack. Around 2000-2001.
Since we had the first IPSEC stack available for free, large parts of the code are now found in many other projects/products. Over 10 years, the IPSEC code has gone through many changes and fixes, so it is unclear what the true impact of these allegations are.
The mail came in privately from a person I have not talked to for nearly 10 years. I refuse to become part of such a conspiracy, and will not be talking to Gregory Perry about this. Therefore I am making it public so that -
(a) those who use the code can audit it for these problems,
(b) those that are angry at the story can take other actions,
(c) if it is not true, those who are being accused can defend themselves.
Of course I don't like it when my private mail is forwarded. However the "little ethic" of a private mail being forwarded is much smaller than the "big ethic" of government paying companies to pay open source developers (a member of a community-of-friends) to insert privacy-invading holes in software.
Rest of e-mail ...
Be interesting to see how deep the rabbit hole goes.


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(MCT) — SOUTH BEND, Ind. — Soon as the doors opened Thursday, in they ran, devouring every last inch of the Notre Dame student section: Three guys dressed as bananas, a fleet of representatives from the No. 1 football team in the nation, the guy with the sign accusing Kentucky freshman Nerlens Noel of loving the band Nickelback.
They and the bulk of the Purcell Pavilion crowd slipped "Black Out" T-shirts over their heads and had the joint crackling. When it was done, when the Irish mouthwashed early season struggles with a 64-50 deconstruction of the defending national champions, onto the court they sprinted, conjuring the scene from last winter's upset of No. 1 Syracuse.
It's just that, to the Irish, one of these things was not like the other.
"I'd rather them not have stormed the court," Irish guard Jerian Grant said. "(Syracuse) was kind of a surprise game. This year, going into it, we were expecting to win."
Notre Dame (7-1) prepared and played like it, with No. 8 Kentucky's youth painfully evident in its first true road test. The Irish outrebounded a bouncy, ultra-long frontline 33-27. They held the Wildcats' leading scorers, Archie Goodwin and Alex Poythress, to six points combined.
After point guard Eric Atkins carried the Irish through a sluggish start, the offense lit up, with 55.6 percent first-half shooting and 8-of-15 accuracy from 3-point range. An early season failure against St. Joseph's in Brooklyn, N.Y., undercut what Notre Dame thought of itself. Dispatching Kentucky (4-2) reconfirmed it.
"This is the team we thought we were, this is the team we know we can be," center Jack Cooley said after a 13-point, 11-rebound night. "We're going to be this team going into the Big East. It was just good for everyone to know that this is who we're going to be."
Atkins essentially wouldn't let it be otherwise. Shortly after that hiccup in Brooklyn, Irish coach Mike Brey pulled his junior floor leader aside during practice and asked for more aggression on offense, for Atkins to seek his own shot.
On Thursday, with his team flagging in the din, Atkins scored 11 of the Irish's first 15 points, and five straight from him sparked a 17-4 run after which Notre Dame never trailed.
"When I hit a few early, my confidence was at a high," said Atkins, who posted a team-high 16 points. "After that, I felt like I could do anything."
A 10-0 second-half run opened a 20-point lead and sealed it, with Grant draining a 3-pointer, pulling out six-shooters and howling as the crowd frothed. Whatever Kentucky becomes by March, Notre Dame needed a night like this.
It also thinks no one should be surprised.
"We didn't look at it as an upset," Brey said. "We're good here. We're so confident here. It's beautiful to watch."


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November 15, 2008
Inexplicably Excited
I'm way too psyched up about tomorrow's game, and way too optimistic about our chances. I can't put my finger on it, but it doesn't feel like a meaningless game for a 2-7 team trudging through the remainder of its schedule, does it?
2 comments:
- Lori Thompson said...
I feel the same way but can't figure out why. I'd love to have a win tomorrow. It's been a rough year at Qwest (never thought I'd say that).
- November 15, 2008 at 7:10 PM
Boston College won today. A good omen for a certain BC alum returning to active duty tomorrow. :-)
- November 16, 2008 at 1:26 AM
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