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WOODSTOCK – For today's teens, working a part-time job is more than just about having a little pocket money. With a struggling economy, high gas prices and many parents out of work, it's about how to manage money, too.
In school, economics and consumer education teachers teach teens about everything from interest rates to staying away from credit card debt. And neighborhood banks offer them advice and incentives to start putting away money.
"Most of the juniors and seniors in my economics class work part-time jobs after school and on the weekends. They are learning to manage their money, but they haven't had a lot of practice, yet,'' said William Macaulay, economics teacher at Woodstock High School.
"We discuss risks such as excessive credit card debt, but it can be difficult to simulate the real-life situations that they will encounter someday. I think the most important thing we can do is to practice being thoughtful and humble about money.''
For some of his students, financial stress hits home.
"I do think that high school students are more cognizant of the economy because of
the 2008 financial crisis," Macaulay said. "For so many of them, their families have been directly affected by the downturn. Some students are more comfortable sharing their family's experiences in class, and that is often a real eye-opener for those students whose families haven't endured as much uncertainty over the last three or four years.''
His students also learn what's behind the foreclosure signs popping up in their neighborhoods.
"We devote a unit to studying the causes and consequences of the housing crash,'' Macaulay said. "Most students can be pretty sophisticated in terms of understanding the interests of mortgage lenders, investment banks, ratings agencies and other players in the financial system.''
To help teens start on the right path to managing their own money, banks offer incentives such as no-fee checking accounts.
"The service fee is waived the whole time they're in college,'' said Maureen Matroni, Woodstock branch manager for BMO Harris Bank.
And young children can start savings accounts with no minimum balance required, she said. With debit cards, she said, teens are encouraged to keep track of every transaction just as they would when writing checks.
As for credit cards, Matroni said, teens are being more cautious than ever in getting them and using them.
"We start talking about that first credit card. We always encourage them to talk to their parents and to get a card from a bank they know and trust,'' Matroni said. "We see more kids coming in with their parents as opposed to doing it on their own. I think it's because the parents understand that credit isn't all it's cracked up to be, and they want to teach those lessons to their kids.''
Bankers give teens tips on managing their account, Matroni said, adding that more than ever, teenagers are aware of the importance of watching their money.
"Now, so many people are struggling that kids hear these stories. They know what's going on,'' she said. "I think we're going to be teaching better lessons to this generation.''
BMO Harris offers tips to help kids be money smart at www.helpingmakemoneymakesense.com.


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I'm working on getting a Buffalo Linkstation Pro Duo [buffalotech.com] set up with Debian Lenny. It's mostly complete, I'm rebuilding the kernel as I type to get USB printer support working. It's very compact and low-power, and has mirrored 500 GB disks, which I think is essential for any home server.
The downside is that I had to solder on a serial connection in order to get access to uboot (a bootloader similar in concept to GRUB) so I could view early kernel output and diagnose problems, log in if networking didn't come up, etc. If you can find a NAS device which supports a serial console (or at least can use netcat instead), that would be good.
One thing to be aware of is that you get a lot less CPU power with these low-watt ARM CPUs. The Linkstation Duo is great for fileserving, printing, and light email and webserving duties, but when I installed Gallery and postgres to view my photos over the web, it ran extremely slowly. That's not too surprising given it's a NAS not a full-fledged server, but it's something to keep in mind. You may only need a low-power device for 90% of your apps, but that last 10% can use a surprising amount of CPU.
I have a DNS-323 which looks similar. You can indeed install Debian on it, but it seems that some of the peripherals are not handled properly, in particulare the thermal sensors.
My current mini-server of choice is the Micro-Client Jr DX (~10W)
> and has mirrored 500 GB disks, which I think is essential for any home server.
I found that when the computer is ran with with no screen, the hard drives are what require the most power. Not surprising when you touch them and see how warm/hot they get.
I have two monitor-less servers, one has 2 X 500G drives in it while the other has 4. The one with 4 drives takes about 160 watts of power while the other with 2 takes about 80 watts of power.
I would suggest to look at alternative media to store your data (or more energy efficient drives) if you are concerned with saving power. You may also look at stopping the drives from spinning when not in use depending on how busy your server is throughout the average day but I do not know how well it works under Linux.
Also, if you live in a cold area where you need to heat your place, the heat dispersed by the drives will warm your house and make you save on heating bills. This is one of the reason I do not worry about this that much... I just warm my place up with the computers and this makes me save on heating bills
I have two monitor-less servers, one has 2 X 500G drives in it while the other has 4. The one with 4 drives takes about 160 watts of power while the other with 2 takes about 80 watts of power.
All this means is that your two systems are pretty different. A typical 3.5" hard-drive uses less than 10 watts [tomshardware.com], not anywhere close to the 40 watts your example would seem to imply.
Nope, both system are the same you are not taking into account the following factors:
1) additional hard drives will cause your power supply to generate more heat and to consume more energy.
2) additional hard drives will cause your controller to generate more heat and to consume more energy.
3) additional hard drives will cause all fans on your sytem to rev faster and to consume more energy.
4) Additional hard drives will cause your cpu to work harder generate more heat and to consume more energy especially if
All I do from my home Linux server is read/write files - mostly from Windows clients, but I have a few Linux clients as well. Also some very basic MRTG which I usually don't even look at anyways. One thing I've consistently read about NAS devices is that they won't necessarily have the horsepower to push the network connection on file read/writes to the max.
What's your experience with the speed of files in and out of the Buffalo device?
What's your experience with the speed of files in and out of the Buffalo device?
Absolutely TERRIBLE, no question about it. You'll get much better performance out of the oldest system you can snag off ebay for $20.
Even if you get one for free, I would recomend NOT using it. They made some of the most horrendous design decision ever. First is vastly underpowering the system. Second is giving it anything more than 10BaseT networking, and advertising it as if there's a snowball's chance in hell it'll be able to utilize it... Third, is not providing ANY WAY for the end user to access the underlying system, so when the array gets completely hosed for no reason (and it will! No question.) you can't get in, anywhere, to fix anything, and only a hacked firmware image will save you... Fourth and perhaps most significantly, is cheaping-out on $1 worth of flash, and instead storing the OS image on the HDDs, leaving it vulnerable to data corruption, and a huge pain in the ass to bootstrap with fresh drives (requiring Windows, or at least WINE to run the firmware updater app).
I posted on a forum somewhere about all the typos I found in the firmware of my unit... "ehco" is a good extensive one in the software-raid scripts, ensuring nobody can actually get the reports of a few specific errors, should they occur. And this is in a commercial product.
I'd like to second the Buffalo Linkstation solution. The LS-XHL model has a 1.2 GHz ARM CPU, 256MB RAM, and the 1 TB model is available from NewEgg for around $220 (they also make a 1.5 TB and 2 TB). I did have to take the drive out and hook it up to a desktop running Ubuntu for part of the install, but I didn't need to solder anything. I have Debian Lenny running on the NAS with AMP, Samba, OpenSSH, Webmin, and TorrentFlux for normal operation. I also have LXDE accessed via TightVNC with various deskto
Is it really worth buying some new kit whose sole purpose is to save money when, towards the end of it's lifetime, you will just about have saved the money you spent to buy it? How about saving yourself the time and not doing it?
I second this idea. I have an old athlon linux server next to the furnace that runs all sorts of crap. I was thinking of replacing it with an Atom based MOBO and some new drives. But I kept spec'ing a $750 system to replace my Raid5 athlon box. I kept thinking that for most of the year where I live, the server is actually heating my house, and every watt it consumes goes to heat. So it's like running a 150 watt space heater. That's bad in the summer when I'm paying for the heat, then paying to remove it, but this time of year, the heat is welcome.
So I'm waiting for it to die, or for drives to get bigger so I can use fewer of them and simplify the system.
I get a whopping 35 Watts used running SETI@home on my Mini... That is with a bus powered FW external HDD for Time Machine hooked up and not spinning down the disks when idle.
A Mac Mini uses nowhere near the power you claim, unless you've got a case where both cores, the GPU, the HDD, and the DVD Burner all all running full tilt at once; a pretty tough thing to do with the use described by the submitter, I'd say.
I second this - a few years back I switched my home server to a Mac Mini from an old x86 box, for power draw and space/noise reasons, much like the original poster. At the time I checked out alternatives, but there wasn't much to recommend other machines, all the ones I could find had much more limited storage space. No doubt that has improved recently, but being able to fit any standard 2.5" drive is a big advantage if you want to use it as a file server.
My Mini draws 20W when idling (I tested it with a kill-a-watt). Power use will be higher under heavy load, of course, but your average home server spends most of the time idling. I'm pretty sure the 85W/110W ratings are the maximum the PSU can handle, not the power draw you'd expect in normal use. My box runs a web server, ssh, mail server, file server and various other bits and pieces. X is not installed. It is one of the old PowerPC Minis, which I think draw a bit less than the more recent Intel Minis, but I can't imagine the power draw has increased that much.
My advice to the OP would be to pick up a second hand Mini and use that - there might be machines out there designed specifically as low power home servers, but Minis are fairly easy to come by and easy to install Linux on as people have been doing it for a few years now, even if Apple don't encourage it. If you're thinking about environmental impact as well as your electricity bill, buying a second hand machine is going to be better than buying a new piece of kit. This was another part of my decision to go with a Mini, there are various computers designed to do the sort of thing the OP has asked for, but they're much more niche and consequently hard to find second hand.
By the way, if you choose to use a PowerPC Mini, choose a distro that fully supports PowerPC! When I set up the box Ubuntu still officially supported PowerPC, but it has since been switched to unofficial ports only support, which is pretty flaky. Debian is a much better bet, I am now using that as it is much more reliable (note to anyone who wants to call me on this, I am very happy using Ubuntu on x86 desktop, but my recent experiences of the PowerPC releases have not been favourable).
Some people are suggesting laptops, but I wouldn't recommend one myself. For one thing, they aren't designed or expected to be on all the time, and I suspect you're more likely to run into heating and dust related issues. For another, one of the main advantages of a laptop is that it has a battery and therefore won't require a UPS. However, leaving the machine constantly on and charging is going to kill the battery life fairly quickly, at which point it's not really very useful. On top of that, most laptops use 80W+ when running on mains power. They're usually only designed to save power when running from battery. Obviously you can change the power saving settings, but it's going to be a pain to do so.
Err.. Pretty much all of the reasons you give for not using a laptop are just plain wrong or at least only applicable to certain laptops. Basically the "Desktop Replacement" type laptops that were sold in the year or two leading up to the core2Duo were often essentially desktop processors crammed into a laptop sized case and pretty much behaved the way you described with some poor little fan running full tilt pretty much the whole time. Most older and newer laptops do a lot better though. I have a Toshiba U405D (dual core AMD Turon) right now doing a Vista -> Win 7 upgrade and is using about 40W. My thinkpad A22 (1GHZ P3) running Ubuntu is consuming 25W doing some light web browsing. With the screens off they would both use less of course. As for the battery life issue, while it's true that L-ion batteries will live longer if stored at somewhat less than a full charge the difference isn't that large. Most of these batteries are rated for something like 300 - 400 charge/discharge cycles which is a lot for the sort of usage we're talking about. Remember, these types of batteries/chargers don't just keep charging like NiCads sometimes did. They just charge up and stop.
With apache+mysql+php, sshd, samba, and the entire OS X GUI running my Mini draws 16 watts. SIXTEEN.
In conclusion: original post author on crack.
Also, the mac mini draws 110 watts
I'd be surprised if it actually uses that much. The figures shown on consumer products for power consumption seem to be peak or maximum, not nominal figures. Using a meter such as the Kill-a-watt will likely show significantly less consumption. (read Watts, not VA)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882715001&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Electronic+Gadgets-_-P3+International-_-82715001 [newegg.com]
A few years ago I built a desktop using a E6300 Core 2 Duo overclocked to 2.25 Ghz. With added Ethernet and Firewire cards, and typical optical and hard drives, consumption measures only 82 Watts. (tested while doing video compression) Components were selected with energy use in mind. It helped to use basic ICH7/GMA950 graphics.
Clearly the Minis still use much more energy than some alternatives suggested here, but for a true picture of power savings measured consumption is needed. It would be interesting to results at different clock rates.
At aa 13 cents a kwh above baseline rate, I figure it costs roughly $1. per month for every 10 Watts of continuous (24 hr) load.
Don't forget going to passive heatsinks (I just glue them on with a fat bead of epoxy around a dot of thermal paste, chisel off with a screwdriver if you want them back when disposing of the old system) and reducing the fan speed on the power supply.
Also, the mac mini draws 110 watts http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_mac/family/mac_mini?aid=AIC-NAUS-K2-BUYNOW-MACMINI-DESIGN&cp=BUYNOW-MACMINI-DESIGN [apple.com]
Maximum. Mostly-idle use runs at 13W, which spanks an Atom in power/performance. http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3468 [apple.com]
Get a Sheeva plug its 5W and it looks like an adapter.
Highly recommended.
I installed debian (lenny) and then updated to squeeze because (and this is to be expected) the squeeze installer is currently borked. Attached to an external drive caddy this solution chopuld come in well under your 30W and will do all you need.
I have mine serving media to the PS3, downloading stuff, serving my music collection to wherever I happen to be, doing Samba, NFS, TFTP, SSH, SMTP and IMAP.... it's a great.
Under 30W !? Miles under 30W.
I've spent quite a few years working towards having a capable low-power home server. I've worked steadily downwards but up until now I've been forced to trade off capability against power consumption. For instance, an NSLU2 is great on power consumption, but its 32M of RAM means there are many things which it just can't do.
The Sheevaplug has been the answer to my prayers. I now have one of these with an external 350G USB HDD attached and the total power consumption of the pair at idle is a mere 3W. It also seems to be capable of doing anything I ask of it. It runs a MySQL server, handles all my local file services, and provides a public NTP server in the pool.ntp.org pool, managing to keep a constant score of 20.
It's a wonderful device. Nothing else comes close if you're after power savings.
I've had one of these for about two months now and it's amazing. It needs a bit of configuration out of the box to fix some of the odd choices Marvell made in their distribution, but there's two great wikis that support the SheevaPlug so there's plenty of help. I'd highly recommend it, super low power, very small, and totally open for you to mess with if you'd like.
I use mine as a media server and rtorrent downloader. It can serve up multiple samba streams at a time without a hitch. It also has a USB port that I have an external HDD plugged into, though it has its own power plug too (though there are some 2.5 drives that can be powered off USB).
Definitely get the dev kit, has an SD card slot and serial USB port in addition to the normal USB and ethernet ports.
Should mention that this wiki is being served off a SheevaPlug, should also mention that since you mentioned you need NFS, you'll need to build your own kernel with it enabled, it won't work out of the box. There may be a distro available somewhere though.
http://computingplugs.com/index.php/Main_Page [computingplugs.com]
There may be a distro available somewhere though.
Installing Debian on the Sheevaplug is simple, straightforward and well documented (thank you Martin). An unbeatable combination.
Now that you've published a link to a Wiki running on a Sheevaplug on Slashdot, you are probably aware of its limitations. I hope it didn't burn your house down when it melted.
"Should mention that this wiki is being served off a SheevaPlug"
And it still works despite the fact you mentioned it here. Impressive!
Definitely get the dev kit, has an SD card slot and serial USB port
Yeah, those are much better than parallel USB ports.
I got the joke, but what he means is that in addition to the USB A plug (to which you can plug in hard drives and the such), it has a USB->Serial->JTAG adapter on it. Meaning no matter how hard you try to screw up the OS, you should still be able to recover it.
To address the comments below about the Pogo and Tonido plug, the Sheeva plug is infinitely better in my book (especially for the slashdot crowd.) It includes the JTAG plug in addition to the SD card. Those projects are great for the clueless ho
The SheevaPlug is great: I've come down from over 600W for a rack of Solaris servers via 18W for a Linux laptop to now under 4W for a SheevaPlug (all quiet/typical consumption) to provide the same services, see:
http://www.earth.org.uk/note-on-SheevaPlug-setup.html [earth.org.uk]
(Served off the plug indeed...)
I've reduced the consumption so much that the plug now runs entirely off-grid from a small array of solar PV panels (under 200Wp) with a small (12V, 40Ah) battery to cover nights and very dull days...
Don't forget the OpenRD [globalscal...logies.com]
Same chip, but in a larger form factor to bring out the rest of the connectors: 7 USB, 2 Gb ethernet, VGA, audio, serial, & esata.
It's 250 instead of only 99, though.
Pogo Plug is a commercialized Sheeva Plug. It may be easier to buy.
http://www.pogoplug.com/ [pogoplug.com]
Sheeva/Pogo is the best solution to this problem that I am aware of. 5W and $99.
Where on earth did you get 85? Are you reading that off the power brick? Those figures are meaningless for this purpose - that's the total load the PS is rated to deliver, not the average load at the wall socket.
The Mac Mini has all the components and power management features of a notebook so it's going to be about as good as you can get. For less money, the FitPC or a second-hand laptop is probably the next best choice.
Here is Apples's spec on the power usage: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3468 [apple.com]
I have confirmed 13W on a recent model using a kill-a-watt meter.
Fit-PC2 (Intel Atom) uses only 6W at idle, 8W full load.
You mentioned a Mac Mini, but what if you put Linux on the Mac Mini and clock it to 500 mhz? Maybe you can shut down one of the cores somehow to conserve more power.
If he's going to use a linux distro, he can use vbetool to turn off the monitor, or apple laptops will let you turn off the screen completely. Then use ssh, vnc, or ard to control the computer remotely.
The Linksys WRT54G router runs a version of Linux in an open source distribution...
Or a D-Link DNS 323 NAS box... there's quite an active hacking community using these boxes...
http://www.goodcleantech.com/2009/03/its_official_apple_mac_mini_is.php [goodcleantech.com]
"The mini uses only 15W while idling in our tests, and a low 34W while running the CineBench benchmark test"
I am using a eeebox at home as a file/web server and to do music and video in my living room. The first models B202 uses around 30W of power and doesnot make much noise (eay less than my fridge). There is no optical drive. It can not render full HD but 720p can still be done.
It may not be what you are looking for, but I think it is a faire reference point.
That sounds rather high for the Mini. Apple claims http://www.apple.com/macmini/environment.html [apple.com] that the new mini uses 14 Watts when idle. Typical laptops use 30-40 Watts or less when idle.
Your best bets are probably the Mac Mini, or another computer with an ultra low voltage desktop chip, an ARM processor, or a low voltage mobile processor. Laptops would be particularly good. Use an SSD instead of a hard drive. Use enough memory to cache your files so you don't have to keep hitting the drive, but do
Not great for surfing, or HD video but a home server is generally just passing data around and leaves the compute intensive stuff to the users' PCs.
I've got one of these running my local subversion repositories and a few other processes. As a bonus, it is fanless. One gotcha is it is a i586 CPU, which means distros like Centos and a few others will not install without a bit of extra work.
.. and certainly others too. Lots of exciting hardware available.
Just get a low-end Eee PC; configured right, they consume only a few watts.
If you want something even cheaper and smaller, get an NSLU2 (but they're a little more work to install on).
Or even a nicer one - I have the 1000HE (Atom processor, 160GB HDD) and it runs 10-12W with the screen on. Performs comparably to the Atom "fanless" desktop machine I also have (which won't run more than 1/2 hour without getting hot as a pistol thanks to the lousy chipset, so it now has a fan on the heatsink!) which pulls 25W at idle with NO screen. Both running Ubuntu 9.04. (Of course, the Eee pulls more when it needs to charge the battery - I don't remember what that tops out at.)
I use the Eee as a lap
The http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SheevaPlug [wikipedia.org] runs a 1.2ghz Marvell PXA 270 ARM, and costs $99.
The UD-160A [plugable.com] gives you a full set of ports (4x USB2, VGA-out, 10/100 Ethernet) thanks to DisplayLink [displaylink.org] drivers. Price: $90-ish.
If you don't need a screen, you can get away with a 4x USB2 hub ($8) or a 7x USB2 hub ($12) and spang on peripherals as you need.
Then, if it turns out that you do want a screen after all, you can always go for a Doublesight DS-90U [doublesight.com] USB 1024x600 screen, again, using DisplayLink [displaylink.org] free software drivers.
There are plenty of other ARM-based low-power CPUs with at least 512mb of RAM: the beagleboard and the IGEP-v2 go for $100 appx at 600mhz.
I have a Compaq low-profile Presario P3. It's tiny (about 3 inches tall and about 12 inches on a side) and consumes very little power - about 20-25 watts.
1 Ghz CPU, 512 RAM, 100 Mb Ethernet, 250 GB HDD, worth about 20 dollars w/o the HD, been my "mini" server for years now running CentOS 4.
Tough combo to beat....
Save money in other places first, have you replaced all your light bulbs with CFL's yet? You won't notice the difference between a 100 watt incandescent and the equivelant 24 watt CFL, but you probably will notice the difference between a 100 and 30 watt server.
We went from having 2 computers with a server and a laptop to having 2 laptops, a base station and no cables. With today's 1TB 2.5 HDD and easy sharing through wireless N, it's relatively simple, efficient and in the past 3 years, we saved a crapload of money since we don't even come near a 500W power supply recent towers (nearly) require. When we wish to have access to our data from home without our computers, we leave them open and they are shared through our router. Otherwise, we have our computer with u
Look at http://www.lex.com.tw. Lex has got many small systems which run perfectly Linux and OpenBSD. Some of them are fanless - the alu case doubles as cooling block for the CPU.
A Mac Mini draws about 85 Watts, so that isn't an option either.
Measuring the power draw of my (admittedly four years old) Mini, I have trouble getting it up to 65 watts. And when not doing anything in particular, it fairly quickly drops off into the 15-20 watt range. Averaged over the whole day, it comes in pretty close to your 30-watt target. But even the minimum configuration costs much more than you want to spend, new. I would also comment that I have been regularly frustrated when porting assorted so
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3562&p=12 [anandtech.com]
According to this article, it's between 25-30W, and it fits into any standard Mini-ITX case. Couple it with a low power hard disk or CF drive and it'll be very power efficient. It's also possible to run it completely passively cooled, and if you wanted to use it as a media frontend, it'd be more than capable. You can even get a version that comes with it's own external power brick rather than a PSU.
Been running a Jetway VIA box [newegg.com] for about six months in a home server role - just added ram, a big cheap HD, and Ubuntu. Installed the OS over the LAN with PXE. Works just fine so far. Meets your budget. Haven't tested actual power draw though. It's small, reasonably quiet - an internal fan for the CPU but the power supply is a fanless external brick. No Ubuntu compatibility hitches at all, so Debian should be fine too.
Intel just released the D945GSEJT Atom board. This is not the same boards that used to older 945 chipsets. The older boards needed a fan on the chipset for it sucked up almost 20 watts!! The new board is mini-itx so it should fit in just about any case and runs on a single 12 volt coaxial plug so no need for a buly ATX PSU.
A nice review here: http://www.silentpcreview.com/Intel_D945GSEJT_with_Morex_T1610 [silentpcreview.com]
I also use, and am a big fan of the PC Engines Alix boards: http://www.pcengines.ch/ [pcengines.ch] You have several board styles to choose from. You can install Voyage Linux (Debian based and keep APT!!) on a compact flash with a simple installation (specifically for ALIX) script: http://linux.voyage.hk/ [voyage.hk]
My alix, which I use as a USB music server, draws a measly 3 watts (Kill-A-Watt meter) when playing FLAC files. You can attach a low power USB hard disk for added storage if you want to run NFS.
Seconded on the D945GSEJT! For under $200 I was able to get the board, a 1TB Seagate Barracuda LP drive, 2GB SODIMM, and some miscellaneous bits to make a simple plexiglass case. The PSU came from an old external HDD case and didn't require any cable hacking to fit the connector at the back. The board has no onboard fans, and runs so cool I didn't need to add any. It's so quiet that I can't hear it over the hum of the 2 CFL bulbs 10 feet away.
I haven't measured power consumption yet, but considering my PSU is only 12V@2A and it hasn't caught fire yet, it can't draw much more than 24A running full tilt.
I bought a Western Digital MyBook network drive which is basically a little ARM board with 32MB memory. It is intended just to serve up some windows shares over a network. But you can run a simple program to enable ssh access, install a package manager and start installing other software on it - mine runs a few cron jobs to download files, as well as being a print server through its spare USB port. I'm not sure how far it could be pushed given how little memory it has, but I'm sure a bit of email & NFS wouldn't be beyond it if you're not fussy about speed.
Power and cost were only a bit more than the drive itself.
I've been into low-power conventional computers for a while. You can buy an old Compaq iPaq [wikipedia.org] (the computer, not the PDA) for almost nothing ($10-$50 in speeds from 500 MHz Celeron to 1 GHz PIII) and they'll use 30W at idle and under light use. They come in "legacy" (serial, parallel) versions and "legacy-free" (USB only) versions. They have a bay that can hold a CD, floppy, or no drive. (Compatible with Armada laptops from the same era.) So beware that if you buy a used one it might come with no optical drive so shop carefully.
A slimline HP [google.com] will also use about 30W and is a little newer and faster--the one I had was a 1.6 GHz Celeron with a DVD burner (could be a 2nd HDD instead) and SATA hard drive.
Buy a mac mini and hook a bicycle + generator up to it. Runs your server and burns off yesterday's donuts.
I wanted the same type of box a year ago, and settled on Intel's D945GCLF2 board, which has a dual core Atom, onboard video, one memory slot, and two SATA plugs. Adding a 2Gb stick, a 500Gb Seagate drive, a generic CD-RW, and a case to put it all in ran just over $300. Runs Ubuntu 8.10 like a champ, and draws 35 watts when spinning the disk. To quiet it down, I replaced the stock northbridge fan with a Zalman passive cooler (instructions here [davewsmith.com]).
I just put together a SuperMicro 5014A-H 1U server (dual-core 1.6GHz Intel Atom processor) with two 320GB 2.5" hard drives (in a RAID-1 configuration) and an 8-port Digium card (AEX800) for Asterisk use. Aside from the Digium card (which was inherited from another server), the total cost of parts including tax and delivery was under $500. The system runs Asterisk, Samba, Apache, PostFix, and Dovecot and does so consuming (according to Kill-A-Watt) roughly 40 watts of power. It's also reasonably quiet and compact. The only downside is that the chassis was designed to hold one 3.5" HDD, and the adapter they sell for it makes it impossible to use anything larger than a half-height PCIe card, so mounting the two 2.5" drives required some drilling new mounting holes - no big deal, but something that should have been foreseen by SuperMicro.
Check out Intel D945GSEJT Johnstown Mainboard [logicsupply.com] Dual core Atom, low power fanless, doesn't need power supply (jack in back goes right to power brick) and gig ethernet for about $118. Very low profile Mini-ITX board, works well in $39 mini-case [logicsupply.com]. I've been using this combination for all sorts of things esp storage servers ( Try OpenFiler [openfiler.com] Linux-based or FreeNAS [freenas.org] BSD-based FOSS NAS solutions )
I like it because it is powerful enough to do most of my daily computing. It runs an apache, a mailserver and serves as my desktop machine. I use a 1680x1050 Gnome desktop, fullscreen video, browser and email client. It has, in practise, completely replaced my normal (1300 euro) desktop. After I replaced the crappy fan that came with the motherboard it is now perfectly silent.
The whole system, under load, uses 28Watt.
If you want low power, look at any of the Netbook and low power 'portable' market devices.
They run on a few Watts compared to something even like a Mini-ATX or Mac Mini desktop solution.
Pick an OS that knows how to handle the device's power management - some distributions suck at this, and some are smooth as butter. (Use something like Windows7 -trial copy- to baseline the power usage to help pick a distribution that gets close to what Windows7 does with power usage or beats it, as it is a good all around consumer baseline OS that does try to manage every power management trick in the book.)
You can even stick to a bland x86 architecture, making things a lot easier for you.
If you pick a netbook or low end laptop, use USB 'selective suspend' devices for storage, DVD/CDROM, etc. Also some of the low end power efficient laptops have eSATA, ExpressCard, etc.
Low power is what these devices were designed to do. (One caveat, make sure they have a 'smart' AC adapter, if not, the AC adapter will not cycle down, and so all the laptop side power saving won't have as dramatic gain.)
PS for a Server, a low end laptop is rather smart, as it can be folded away on your bookshelf next to your hub out of the way, and they also have built in battery backup for power outages and smart shutdown/restart - perfect for servers.
Good Luck...
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From what I can gather out of Cleveland, the Mets and Indians have been in contact.
The Mets are interested in Martinez, but I do not believe any hard offer was ever on the table – though this, again, may just be a matter of semantics.
The thing is, the Red Sox and Rays like Martinez as well.
"The Mets are trying to be creative, because they refuse to trade those top guys," someone close to the team told me, which I assume means Brad Holt, Fernando Martinez, Jennry Mejia, Ike Davis and Wilmer Flores.
For what it's worth, I believe the Indians might accept Jon Niese, Flores and Holt for Martinez, but that is an educated guess.
In the end, from what I can tell, the Mets do not feel pressure to make a trade before tomorrow's 4 pm deadline.
They are confident in their prospects, and they're also confident they will get Carlos Beltran, Jose Reyes, Carlos Delgado and Billy Wagner back during August, which is a lot more than any other team will acquire in trade. Plus, they seem comfortable with what the waiver wire might make available in August.
Basically, having talked with people around the team, I believe the Mets are buyers and are looking for a creative way to get a bat, i.e., the in-season, offense version of last December's three-way trade that brought on J.J. Putz.
In short, the Mets seem to have no interest in over-paying with top prospects when they are essentially set to acquire four All Stars in August.


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Notre Dame "most prestigious"???
On a lighter note regarding the Notre Dame commencement debacle, can I just say I am absolutely tired--better, completely exhausted--by this claim that Notre Dame is the most prestigious or important or significant Catholic university in the country? I can name loads more, Boston College to begin with, that I think are of higher quality. Notre Dame just sometimes has a better football team, better TV contract, and a great press office. And a stupid movie starring Ronald Reagan, which wins it no points with me.
The grand irony of my rising to the defense of Notre Dame is that I detest Notre Dame and have since high school. One of my happiest football memories is the University of Tennessee's comeback win over the Fighting Irish in the early 1990s, which I got to enjoy deep in the heart of Notre Dame country. Go Vols!
As for great Catholic colleges and universities, give me a small one, preferably founded by women religious.


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|Mister Roberts
|Tuesday, 22 December 1998
Nowadays, when you see two names given shared director credit on a film, it's normally cause for alarm. However, when the names are John Ford and Mervyn Leroy and the film in question is 'Mister Roberts,' it's a whole different story.
'Mister Roberts' is the 1955 screen adaptation--scripted by Frank Nugent and Joshua Logan--of the Thomas Heggen/Joshua Logan Broadway hit about a class of wills between a captain and a lieutenant on a U.S. Navy supply ship in the Pacific fleet during WWII. The ship, officially the U.S.S. Reluctant but called simply 'The Bucket' by her crew, might sink under the weight of broken spirits if it weren't for Lt. Roberts (Henry Fonda). Roberts, the ship's cargo officer, delights the crew and infuriates the captain (James Cagney) by sticking up for the men and requesting transfer to combat at every opportunity.
This may not sound like the stuff of comedy, but 'Mister Roberts' is genuinely funny and insightful about human behavior under pressure. With hindsight, we now know that these Navy men are a bit clean-looking and clean-speaking, even if they are in 1945, but the script's basic observations ring true.
The performances are as solid as they come, even if Cagney seems to ever-so-slightly sending up his patented tough guys. Fonda couldn't be better cast as the soft-spoken man of the people, William Powell's seen-it-all, cares-about-it-all Doc is a timeless figure and Jack Lemmon (apart from looking shockingly young to a modern audience) does a fine job as Ensign Pulver, which won him a Best Supporting Actor Oscar.
Warner Brothers is to be commended for the gorgeous restoration job they've done on both picture and audio track when their original negative is well over 40 years old. The colors are vivid, with so many distinct, brilliant shades of blue that one is tempted to pull out a dictionary just to name them all. The sound is primarily dialogue and Frank Waxman's orchestral score, but both sound clear and rich, except for a bit of antique tinniness on a Pacific Island musical theme in Chapter 14. There is a perfectly swell explosion (accompanied by an even better sight gag) in Chapter 19.
Lemmon supplies an audio commentary track, explaining up front why 'Mister Roberts' wound up with two directors. The track has the odd (and unwelcome) feature of requiring the viewer to return to the menu to tell it to proceed once Lemmon has guided us through the opening credits; left alone, the film returns to its regular audio track. Otherwise, this Warner Bros. Premiere Collection Edition's load of extra goodies--including an extra-rare clip of the film's stars on 'The Ed Sullivan Show'--are an excellent addition to a classic film.


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Here's the situation:
We've been co-sleeping with our 14-months old for a while and it has worked very well for us. However, she has now become very large and rolls around like a jolly rolling pin, kicking and bumping into us. Worst part is that it wakes us all: upon encountering an obstacle (me or hubby) she wakes up with a startle and starts to cry.
Whenever the hubby decamps to the living room couch, she sleeps much better. She doesn't actually like being close to me, so after nursing she usually rolls as far away as possible and proceeds to sleep there turning and tossing and only occasionally (x3 a night) waking up to nurse. That works for me, but I'm absolutely unwilling to kick my husband out of our bed for an undetermined amount of time. He is so tired, he has started talking about night-weaning, but I'm not ready to do that: I work full-time and I'm pretty sure my supply would dry up if I don't nurse her at night. My goal is to breastfeed her till she is 2 years old.
I'm desperate for sleep, but not ready to night-wean.
Any advice?


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More than 100,000 hunters will be afield opening day
PRATT—The 2005 pheasant season will open statewide on Saturday, November 12. Quail season in the eastern two-thirds of the state will also open on Saturday. In the Western Quail Zone of the state, see quail map in the Hunting and Furharvesting Summary , quail season will open Nov. 19.
The ring-necked pheasant is arguably our most popular game bird, and more than 150,000 hunters will pursue this challenging quarry throughout the season, which ends Jan. 31, 2006. Motels across the western half of the state will have the "No Vacancy" sign out through the weekend. The pheasant is native to Asia and was first imported and released in Kansas in 1906. Annual Kansas pheasant harvests consistently rank among the top three in the nation.
The 2005 fall season outlook is positive. Best areas will include the northcentral and southcentral regions. The northwest and southwest regions will also offer good hunting. See the Upland Bird Forecast for more details.
A smallgame hunting license is required of residents age 16-65 and all nonresidents. No stamps or other issuances are needed. A resident hunting license is $20.15 and a nonresident license is 72.15 (nonresidents 15 years and younger pay $37.15).
There are more than 1 million acres in the Walk-In Hunting Area (WIHA) program this year. The WIHA program leases land from private landowners and opends it to hunting. An atlas with full-page county maps showing all WIHA lands, as well as all state and federal lands is available from KDWP offices or wherever licenses are sold. The atlas can also be downloaded by clicking here.


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Colorado Governor Signs Bill Ending Marijuana Prohibition in State, Enacting Amendment 64
Denver - Today, Gov. John Hickenlooper signed legislation that continue the reform of marijuana laws in Colorado set in motion last election by the voters in the state.
Once voters made it clear that marijuana prohibition must end, Hickenlooper established a task force of various stakeholder communities to provide guidance for the general assembly to enact legislation to implement Amendment 64. The task force recommendations became the basis of the work of a select legislative committee that devised the bills signed today by the Governor.
SEC Moves to Require That Corporations Disclose All Political Spending
The Corporate Reform Coalition applauds the Securities and Exchange Commission's (SEC) commitment to seek disclosure of all corporate political spending in response to a historic demonstration of investor demand for such a rule-making.
In one of the last actions of departing SEC Chair Mary Schapiro's term, the agency announced that it will consider a proposed rule to require that public companies provide disclosure to shareholders regarding the use of corporate resources for political activities. A petition requesting this rulemaking was filed in 2011 by a bipartisan committee of leading law professors.
In a telephone press conference today, coalition members urged the agency to move swiftly on the rule, now that it is on the agenda.
Judge Halts GE Crops on Southeastern Wildlife Refuges
PUBLIC EMPLOYEES FOR ENVIRONMENTAL RESPONSIBiLITY (PEER) on BUZZFLASH AT TRUTHOUT
Separate Ruling Leaves Door Ajar for GE Crops on Midwestern Refuges for Now
Washington, DC - A federal court ruled in favor of the public interest groups Public Employees for Social Responsibility (PEER), Center for Food Safety (CFS) and Beyond Pesticides yesterday, halting cultivation of genetically engineered (GE) crops in all national wildlife refuges in the Southeastern U.S. The ruling is the third in a series of victories against the U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service (FWS) resulting in the removal of GE cultivation from federal wildlife preserves. In March 2009, the same groups won a similar lawsuit against GE plantings on Prime Hook National Wildlife Refuge. In 2011, the groups forced a legal settlement ending GE planting on refuges throughout the 12-state northeast region.
This latest ruling bars FWS from entering into cooperative farming agreements for GE crops on the 128 refuges across eight states, including the 25 refuges currently growing GE crops, without the environmental review required by the National Environmental Policy Act and refuge management laws. The requirement of environmental reviews will likely prevent the planting of crops in 2013 and 2014, and may result in the permanent end to the practice, as native successional grasses reclaim fallow refuge tracts.
Top Romney Surrogate Compares LGBT People to Drug Users and Polygamists
The Human Rights Campaign, the nation's largest lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) civil rights organization – is condemning remarks from Kansas Secretary of State and Mitt Romney surrogate Kris Kobach, in which he compared LGBT people to drug users and polygamists. ThinkProgress reported that Kobach made the remarks while debating the GOP platform's marriage equality language today in Tampa. Family Research Council President Tony Perkins authored the platform's marriage section, which comes out strongly against marriage equality and LGBT families. Kobach and Perkins serve as the latest glaring examples that the GOP platform and the Romney-Ryan ticket are not representative of mainstream or even conservative values, but instead influenced by the agenda of a few anti-LGBT extremists.
While arguing against an amendment that would have ended the party's support for the discriminatory Defense of Marriage Act, Kobach said: "Our government routinely judges situations where you might regard people completely affecting themselves…like for example the use of controlled substances, like for example polygamy, that is voluntarily entered into. We condemn those activities even though they are not hurting other people, at least directly."
Evidence Shows Three-Star General Ordered Unlawful, Brutal Treatment of PFC Bradley Manning
David Coombs, civilian legal counsel for accused WikiLeaks whistle-blower PFC Bradley Manning, has published the "Article 13" motion that in July he said would "shock the conscience of the court." This document not only reveals new details about PFC Manning's brutal conditions at the Quantico Marine Brig in Virginia, but the shocking revelation that a three-star General, far removed from the brig, ordered this illegal treatment. Coombs writes that new emails show two different brig commanders then carried out these unlawful orders in clear violation of Article 13 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice which prohibits pre-trial confinement conditions "any more rigorous" than the minimum needed to ensure the accused appears for court hearings. Mr. Coombs will argue this motion for dismissal of all charges, based on these military law violations at a critical October 1-5 pre-trial hearing at Fort Meade, Maryland.


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Depot Days raises $6,200 total, $3,500 for depot operations
STANDISH — The seventh annual Depot Days were held in Standish Oct. 1 and 2, and Arenac Heritage Route Authority President Curt Hillman said this year's event was one of the best the depot has had.
"Everything went so smooth the entire weekend," he said. "I think this year's event was what we have been hoping for from the start."
Hillman said approximately $6,200 was raised at the event, $3,500 of which will go toward operating costs at the depot.
He added that nearly 300 people were on the depot grounds at the busiest hours Oct. 1.
"We had a lot of people stopping in and passing through," he said. "It was a great way to promote the community. Of course, money is raised to help support the cost of running the depot during the year, but this is a community event for all to enjoy."
Hillman said that, unlike the previous Depot Days, he felt there was a balance to all of the different attractions.
"We had all of our vendors and attractions out front and we had our pie baking contest inside the depot, along with other attractions," he said. "We definitely found a layout for the event that works well with what we wanted to do."
Hillman said all of the events and attractions were in one area in front of the depot, including 22 vendors, doubling the total number of vendors from 2010.
"In all, I think that the whole thing was a success," he said. "Even our cleanup was easy. Everyone was able to just pick up and leave. I think we found our layout for future Depot Days."
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With the game deadlocked at 2-2 after 75 minutes, the former Peterborough striker failed to beat Paddy Kenny time from 12 yards.
The 28-year-old had opened the scoring by slamming in a first-half spot-kick and put his side ahead in the 48th minute, either side of in-form El-Hadji Diouf equalising with his second goal in as many matches from 12 yards out after Luke Varney, keeping top scorer Luciano Becchio on the bench, was brought down in the area.
Leeds levelled in the 66th minute as substitute Becchio made an impact with his first touch, seeing the ball deflect off his knee and into the net from Michael Brown's curling effort.
The Seagulls made their early dominance count in the 16th minute when Mackail-Smith emphatically converted from the penalty spot following Lee Peltier's clumsy tackle on the lively Will Buckley.
Mackail-Smith almost netted a second three minutes later, only to see his shot from the edge of the area deflected on to the upright.
Leeds started to settle and got their reward after 37 minutes. Bruno needlessly fouled Varney in the area and after referee Lee Mason pointed to the spot again, Diouf slammed in his fifth goal of the campaign.
Mackail-Smith was close to putting his side ahead, but his shot on the turn was deflected just wide.
However, the lively marksman got his second two minutes after half-time when he fired in from Buckley's pull back and almost completed a treble 14 minutes later, although Kenny was equal to his 18-yard drive.
Leeds levelled when Brown's curling effort found the bottom corner via a deflection off Becchio, who had just come on for Varney.
Mackail-Smith wasted the chance for a hat-trick 15 minutes from time when he missed from the spot after he was fouled by Sam Byram, with Kenny holding on diving to his right.
And Mackail-Smith was again brilliantly denied by Kenny late on from close range as Leeds made their point.


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The triangle returned from Primitives.triangle(0, 0, 10) that can be used as a ScatterSeries marker is a right angle triangle, which (in my opinion) looks odd (see attached). I think that it would be more appropriate in this context to return an equilateral triangle or at least an isosceles triangle.
If you agree, then please fix.
John Lewis


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Jaime Hernandez:
The 1987-D Kennedy Half Dollars were only issued in Mint Sets for the year. No 1987-D Kennedy Half Dollars were released into circulation by the U.S Mint. However, the Mint had previously announced that the coins would not go into circulation. This allowed collectors to buy them directly from the Mint. As a result, mintages for the 1987 Mint Sets were significantly higher than the previous year.
Most 1987-D Kennedy Half Dollars remain in high grade since they should have never entered circulation. Only examples in MS67 grade or higher appear to be scarce with less than several hundred examples surviving. Coins in MS68 condition are considered a condition census, since there are less than a dozen graded by PCGS with none being graded higher.
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Fun interactive story session with puppets, song, dance and a craft activity
27 May 2014
Time 11:00 - 12:00
Duration 60 minutes
Cost £1 per child, adults free
Meet Matilda, a little girl who is given a magic rainbow bag. Help Matilda solve clues to get to the end of the rainbow and find what she's looking for. Why not tweet a photo of your finished creation to us at @PHMMcr.
Family Friendly activity, suitable for under 5s and their grown ups
Booking Requirements: Booking advised, please contact 0161 838 9190 or firstname.lastname@example.com
Sent out approximately every two months.
The People's History Museum is very grateful to all its funders


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Still Time to Register for Youth Birding Competition
Young birders have only until March 31 to sign up for this year's Youth Birding Competition, a fun and free Georgia bird-a-thon set for April 16-17.
The Youth Birding Competition is open to teams from kindergarteners to high school seniors. Everyone from experienced birders to first-timers is welcomed.
The sixth annual competition starts at 5 p.m. Saturday, April 16, and ends at 5 p.m. Sunday, April 17. Teams, competing against others their age, can use as much or as little of that time to count as many birds as possible throughout Georgia. But all must arrive at Charlie Elliott Wildlife Center near Mansfield by 5 p.m. Sunday. A banquet and awards ceremony is held that evening at the wildlife center.
The competition is sponsored by the Georgia Wildlife Resources Division and The Environmental Resources Network Inc., or TERN, the friends group of the Nongame Conservation Section. Georgia Ornithological Society and Atlanta Audubon Society also provide generous support. The event is aimed at focusing children on birds and cultivating a deep interest in wildlife and conservation.
For registration details, go to www.georgiawildlife.com/node/951 or contact Lacy Mitchell at Charlie Elliott Conference Center, (770) 784-3152 or lacy [dot] mitchell [at] dnr [dot] state [dot] ga [dot] us. Tim Keyes, at (912) 262-3191 or tim [dot] keyes [at] dnr [dot] state [dot] ga [dot] us, can answer questions about the competition.
2011 Youth Birding Competition
** What: Free bird-a-thon and fundraiser for youth from kindergarten through high school.
** When: April 16-17. Registration is open. Deadline to enter: March 31.
** Where: Teams can bird anywhere in the state, but must arrive at the finish line at Charlie Elliott Wildlife Center in Mansfield by 5 p.m. April 17.
** Registration: Lacy Mitchell, Charlie Elliott Conference Center, (770) 784-3152 or lacy [dot] mitchell [at] dnr [dot] state [dot] ga [dot] us
** Competition contact: Tim Keyes, (912) 262-3191 or tim [dot] keyes [at] dnr [dot] state [dot] ga [dot] us
** More online: www.georgiawildlife.com/node/951


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Rabbit and Bear personalities make a great team! You can't expect everything to be perfect all the time, but this relationship definitely has potential.
Strangely compatible
Great back rubs
Surprising attractions
Once you've taken the personality test, choose two animal personalities from the dropdown lists below and click "Make a Match" to see how compatible they are. You can read more about how different animals get along at Relationships Between Animal Personalities.


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This is part of a series of stories on issues in the local congressional races, leading up to the election next month. This story focuses on health care. Future stories will look at Social Security, Medicare, federal spending and defense cuts.
U.S. Sen. Bob Casey is the Democrat running for re-election. Tom Smith is the Republican who wants his job. President Barack Obama's national health care reform law highlights their divide perfectly.
Mr. Casey proudly voted for the law; Mr. Smith wants to repeal it at all costs.
"It was the right vote," Mr. Casey said.
"I think it's the most intrusive invasion of personal rights that I've seen in my lifetime," Mr. Smith said.
As the two crisscross the state campaigning, the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare, looms as a major issue.
Then, there's Rayburn Smith, the Libertarian Party candidate, who says he would have opposed the law, and has his own novel idea of what to do about ensuring health care coverage for all Americans.
Signed into law by Mr. Obama on March 23, 2010, Obamacare aimed to expand health care coverage to an estimated 32 million uninsured Americans, but it comes with plenty of other provisions, some likeable, some quite controversial.
Topping the list of the controversial: a requirement that everyone have health insurance and penalties for those who don't, a mandate upheld by the Supreme Court in June.
Among the favorites: elimination of three-quarters of the gap in senior citizen prescription drug coverage by 2020, a prohibition on insurance companies denying anyone coverage for pre-existing conditions and letting children stay on their parent's health insurance plans until age 26.
The law also fines companies with more than 50 employees $2,000 a year per worker if they don't provide health insurance, though the first 30 employees are exempted; provides a tax credit to many small employers with no more than 25 employees; increases the threshold for deducting medical expenses on tax returns by a third, making deductions less likely; and cuts $716 billion in subsidies to private Medicare Advantage plans and other health care providers to help pay for it.
Its cost, estimated by the Congressional Budget Office, is about $1.76 trillion spread over 2012 to 2022, but the CBO also says it would trim the federal deficit by $124 billion, a figure Republicans hotly dispute.
Candidate Tom Smith argues the law would turn over "one-sixth of the economy to the federal government," despite its provisions that its main, intended purpose - coverage for the uninsured - would happen through state-sponsored insurance exchanges involving private insurance plans.
"It's going to be controlled (by the government)," Mr. Smith said. "You're going to have an unelected board there making some final decisions. The free enterprise system is the best place for our health care, not in the hands of the federal government."
The "unelected board" is the 15-member Independent Payment Advisory Board, which is charged with ways of slowing Medicare's growth.
The law expressly forbids the board from rationing health care. Any recommended changes to Medicare go before Congress, which may reject them with a vote of three-fifths of its members.
"I think it's very clear from the language in the bill ... that they cannot make benefit determinations," Mr. Casey said. "They can make assessments of where things are, they can make recommendations. They cannot supplant the role that Congress plays if Congress wants to make a change in the program. It's as simple as that. To add interpretation that somehow this entity is going to impact people's benefits, it's a lie and they know it's a lie."
Mr. Smith said he opposes requiring people to buy health insurance, although that means the uninsured will seek free coverage that hospitals, doctors and people who have insurance will have to absorb.
"You can address that, but you don't change the best health care system in the world," Mr. Smith said. "You're talking (about) every bit of control by the federal government."
Mr. Smith said he favors the bill's pre-existing condition and age 26 coverage provisions. But its "20 new taxes" and $716 billion cut to Medicare Advantage plans reflect "a bad piece of legislation," he said.
"Anything 2,700 pages long has to give us a moment of pause and we're now seeing what's in it," he said. "We don't need a complete overhaul of the health care system. What we need are some minor adjustments."
He favors tort reform that limits medical malpractice awards, which raise malpractice insurance premiums.
"That's driving up the price of health care for all of us," he said. "I'm not saying write a new law, just tinker with what needs to be done."
The best way to deal with the uninsured is to "grow the economy" so more people have jobs and the health insurance that comes with a job, he said.
He also favors allowing small businesses to band together in pools to find cheaper health insurance coverage and allowing health insurers to offer insurance across state lines.
"There's nothing like good competition," Mr. Smith said. "That'll do more to hold down the price than anything else."
He said the law is discouraging an economic recovery because businesses fear hiring anyone new before they understand its effects.
"We can't risk hiring," said Mr. Smith, a former coal mining company owner who farms and owns a trucking company.
He notes Mr. Casey never talks about the law.
"Sen. Casey has to run against his voting record and I wouldn't talk about it either," he said.
Mr. Casey said he knows the bill needs tweaking, which is why he is now in favor of eliminating a fee on medical devices.
"We're trying to make changes that make sense, but what we can't do is repeal legislation that will take away protections for kids with pre-existing conditions," he said.
Repeal will also force many senior citizens to pay more for prescription drugs and letting insurance companies rule health care.
"Insurance companies, without this legislation, can pretty much do anything they want," he said. "They can deny you coverage, they can cut you off, they can put in lifetime limits, annual limits (on coverage). Talk about disproportionate power against the interests of families."
Mr. Casey said the ideas that Mr. Smith says foster competition are worth considering if they make sense, but Republicans have yet to come up with a comprehensive solution.
"To constantly invent theories or give projections which are questionable at best, it's all geared towards this idea to repeal it and they have no plans to replace it," he said. "They barely whisper the word replace and I don't hear a word from them."
He said Republicans ignored health care's rising costs and the uninsured problem for years.
"You look at the last quarter century and where have they been on this issue?" he asked. "They had the White House for a long time, they had control of the House and Senate at various times. They never took it on because I just don't think it's a priority for them."
Ending the coverage mandate won't work because the money raised by that makes possible pre-existing condition coverage, he said.
"And then they (Republicans) turn around in the same sentence and say 'We're against the mandate,'" he said. "They known you can't pay for those protections (without the mandate) ... If you don't have any coverage and you've got a pre-existing condition and you're seeking coverage, Mitt Romney and Tom Smith and the whole crowd don't give you any help. So you are on your own and the child is on their own, too."
Mr. Casey also highlighted other elements of his health care record as senator. They include getting Congress to pass provisions that encourage the education of more pediatricians, obtaining $250 million to help vulnerable pregnant women and $1.25 billion for a tax credit to encourage adoption and the reauthorization of the Children's Health Insurance Program.
Rayburn Smith said he would have voted against Obamacare because of the mandate to buy coverage.
"I don't think we should have penalties for not complying and not buying insurance," he said.
He likes the pre-existing conditions and age 26 coverage requirements and its rewards to doctors who follow "best practices."
But he wants to replace it with a federal cooperative that entails citizens buying stock, paying premiums and controlling coverage through a board elected by stockholders.
"I even thought of tying a national lottery into it to fund it" like the Pennsylvania Lottery funds senior citizens.
A plan so large would offer more affordable rates, he said.
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Colbert made a solid, sensible, inexpensive move yesterday, signing veteran safety Will Allen. But then, he just couldn't help himself. He then signed pissboy, slow-assed, no-ball-skills Ryan Clark to a 4-year deal. Unreal.
Colbert has really, really sagged and struggled the past couple of years....and now this stinker of a day. His main problem is his bizarre over-fascination and over-valuation of his current players. He rushed out like a rabid dog a couple of years ago to extend Farrior, who was CLEARLY arcing downward on his career. All Farrior did in 2009 was get brutally exposed time and time and time and time again out in space.
Now, Colbert lavishes Ryan Clark -- whose career epitomizes MEDIOCRITY -- to an absurd 4-year deal. WHY ??? NO OTHER team was even interested in Clark. If they were, they'd have signed the stiff. And this, after he'd signed Will Allen, which was a sensible signing. Colbert negotiated against himself on Clark and outbid himself. I'm sure he must feel awfully proud. Gee, it'll be great to have Clark back at safety, what with his complete inability to track and make plays on balls in the air, plus his penchant for getting trucked by opposing RBs. 2009 showed the world what a pile of shit Ryan Clark is, yet Colbert, the dumbshit that he is, just couldn't resist retaining Clark.
Colbert also is signing WRs Randle El and Arnaz Battle. Both should help with depth and 4-WR sets, especially if Limas Peed (who peed the bed as a toddler, and still does) is out of the mix.
Colbert isn't done, however. He's trying to bring back former Stiller Larry (Slow-A) Foote. Like I said, Colbert is so over-fascinated with his current and former players that he cannot help himself. Nor, of course, can he help the roster he's supposed to be helping.


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|ear piercing
Oct 16, 2012
I recently got my ear piercing done at the local swap meet. The guy had a new pair of "sterile" ear rings to open. He attached the earrings to a gun and they were quickly attached on. The guy looked legit, he used gloves, alcohol, and cream and his store said professional ear piercing. I was just wondering how high the chance of me contracting HIV from this. I've been worried because I've had a fever, slightly sore throat, and sometimes i get out of breath.
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"This land is afforesting," my husband told me more than once.
And indeed, there were many places where one or two trees looked as though planted by a bird dropping a seed.
But now it's the trees in town I am thinking of, a broad mixture of kinds planted by residents who found nothing there when they moved in. Sometimes it was by developers.
On my block, for instance, the developers planted Chinese elms, which grew mightily. But they were unsatisfactory for some people, and slowly a long change began as people removed the elms (or sometimes a storm did) and gradually the look of the trees changed.
Instead of a uniform grouping of one kind of tree, a wide variety began to grow.
A favorite time for a power outage, formerly, was Saturday afternoon, when men were off at the mill and decided to do some tree barbering. Not trained in this skill, too often they dropped a limb onto a power line.
Now the Public Utility District keeps an eye on its lines and does the job professionally, and without such interruptions.
I had two huge Chinese elms in front of my house, and when I had them removed, I was shaken when I saw what had been up over people's heads. I replaced them with Moraine locusts, which were the size of my thumb when I planted them, and now are huge.
People have set out trees with various colors of foliage, various shapes and habits. Some are conifers and stay clothed all year. Others shed in the fall, leading to the fall odor of burning leaves.
A multitude of kinds lift their shapes and colors to mark the seasons. But you know that.
This year, I don't know why, I have seen them more than usual, and their varied kinds of beauty have been wonderful to behold.
Now we are proud of being a tree city, with our trees adding a unique and varied kind of beauty. What a richness this gives!
Let me add here what I should have said in my review of the last concert by the Okanogan Valley Orchestra.
In the second movement, the slow movement, of the Dvorak Symphony No. 9, there is a quiet passage which, since the composer's days, has had words set to one section of the music. It's called "Goin' Home." I learned it in high school chorus.
The orchestra, in this section achieved a rich, glowing tone and a perfect, tight ensemble. This may have been the high moment of the performance. Beautiful!
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He's the man behind the mic in both Radio and TV. A popular Rockford talk show host was laid to rest Saturday. WNTA's Chris Bowman died from a liver problem on Tuesday at Saint Anthony's Medical Center.
Saturday, the sign outside the Coronado read, "We will miss you Chris." Family, friends, local dignitaries and loyal listeners came to the memorial service.
Bowman was known for his strong opinions and his willingness to take on anyone. His journalistic career started here at 23 WIFR in 1979. He worked several jobs in politics before returning to radio.
His show at WNTA was on the air for almost ten years. Chris bowman was 51 years old.


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Chris Pirillo, one of Ustream's earliest adopters and most prolific broadcasters, was recently covered by none other than the internationally renowned BBC News. Darren Waters, official BBC News tech blogger @ dot.life, pens an entry matter-of-factly entitled "In praise of Pirillo" which it then – matter-of-factly — goes on to do. Thanks to Pirillo, Ustream.TV is now also a BBC News worthy entity – thanks Chris!
The entry ostensibly celebrates Chris' 1000th YouTube posting as a jumping point to delve into the innovative, multi-point models Chris has employed to self-publish and distribute content online. The Ustream community is lucky enough to follow Chris' entrepreneurial adventures everyday on both his Ustream channel and his own site, Chris.Pirillo.com
The entry runs through many of the developing hallmarks of successful video content distribution in the new online world, including long-tail sensibilities…
"My model for publishing video on YouTube is not to have seven people watch one video but to have one person watch seven videos."
… interactivity, especially of the real-time variety…
"During live broadcasts viewers can leave comments that appear live on screen and are later embedded in the YouTube video."
… multi-point distribution and social networking…
"He has a blog, a Twitter feed, the YouTube channel, a live channel and is one of the most networked people imaginable.
… which all leads to a groundbreaking formula for success in the new media world:
"Audiences for his YouTube videos are in the hundreds and in total more than 668,000 people have watched them. But it's not about the size of the audience it's about the strength of the community… Pirillo talks to his audience in a way that mainstream media – the BBC included – is only beginning to understand."
Chris Pirillo is an instructional example of utilizing Ustream as a critical component of an overall media brand building. Social media platforms like Ustream.TV are lowering the barriers for distribution on many fronts, so you can concentrate on what you do best: producing compelling content.
As the bottlenecks of limited distribution break apart in the new media age, it's possible for anyone for anyone to become the next Chris Pirillo. That is, content producer as owner and entrepreneur. Marc Andreessen — founder of Netscape, serial entrepreneur, angel investor and overall really smart guy –- intelligently writes at length about the emerging new media entertainment industry as "Hollywood Rebuilt in Silicon Valley's Image", and the attendant "producer-as-entrepreneur" filling its ranks. Both entries are great, detailed reads for anyone seeking to become the next Chris Pirillo of (fill in your passion here).
So go ahead and let Ustream.TV do all the heavy lifting for you, so you too can produce the type of content that will find you in the BBC News; the online edition, of course!
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|Neighborhood favorite Via Quadronno (on 73rd Street of Madison) dressed up for the holidays. 9:00PM. Photo: JH.
|Wednesday, November 28, 2012. Wet and raw with some white stuff mixed in with the rain, but nothing sticking; yesterday in New York.
|Down at the Waldorf, bright and early the Breast Cancer Research Foundation held its annual Symposium and Luncheon.
BCRF Scientific Director Larry Norton, MD (Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center) opened the Symposium titled Magical Wands to Make Cancer Disappear: Fantasy or the Future? Clifford Hudis, MD, Chairman of BCRF Scientific Advisory Board (Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center), moderated, joined by four BCRF-funded investigators: Gabriel N. Hortabagyi, MD, FACP from the University of Texas MD Anderson Cancer Center; Kathy D. Miller, MD of Indiana University School of Medicine; José Baselga, MD, PhD from Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center; and Jedd Wolchok, MD, PhD also Memorial Sloan-Kettering.
She was also very proud of the fact that the expense of the BCRF staff and activities was always never more than ten or twelve cents of every dollar contributed, all of which was earmarked for scores of research grants.
Yesterday's was a great success. 800 guests attended and more $2.1 million was raised. Deborah Norville emceed the luncheon.
The Jill Rose Award for outstanding research excellence was presented to Dr. Hortabagyi, recognized for his path-breaking contributions advancing all aspects of breast cancer science and care, as well as his leadership in public and professional education, and his mentorship to medical professionals worldwide.
Guests also participated in a Text-to-Pledge competition led by long-time BCRF supporter, Roz Goldstein. She made a $50,000 match donation for the initiative. Nearly $200,000 was raised through Text-to-Pledge including a $50,000 donation made by audience member, Meyer Grodetsky.
The BCRF Luncheon and Symposium was co-chaired by Roberta Amon, Anne Bass, Tory Burch, Susan Burke, Marjorie Reed Gordon, Betsy Green, Joanne de Guardiola, Ronnie Heyman, Gail Hilson, Laura Lauder, Cynthia Lufkin, Gigi Mortimer, Wendi Rose, and Arlene Taub.
Evelyn was still very much on everyone's mind. She spent more than a quarter of her life personally battling cancer yet during that same time, without any reference ever to her own predicament. The result was this great research funding foundation that has made a difference in the lives of millions, and will continue to. There remains much sadness about her but no regrets. Pluck, a natural joie de vivre and a devoted husband saw her through with Good Cheer to the end of her days.
|Doctors Larry Norton, Cliff Hudis, Jose Baselga, Gabriel Hortobagyi, Kathy Miller, and Jedd Wolchok at the symposium. Photos: Rob Rich/SocietyAllure.com
|Myra Biblowit addressing the 800 guests in the Grand Ballroom of the Waldorf at yesterday's BCRF luncheon.
|Leonard Lauder telling the guests about the newly established Evelyn H. Lauder Founder's Fund, created in her memory with more than $8 million already having been donated by many people. The upcoming sale at Sotheby's of Evelyn's jewelry and Estee Lauder's jewelry is expected to bring another $8 million. These funds will support a large multi-institutional, international research project to be carried out over two to three years that will have implications for the management of not only for breast cancer but other types of the disease as well.
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|Dr. Cliff Hudis, Leonard Lauder, Myra Biblot, and Dr. Larry Norton.
|Last night Shirley Lord Rosenthal had a dinner for 24 at her East Side duplex for George Weidenfeld, Baron Weidenfeld, the British publisher (Weidenfeld & Nicolson), and newspaper columnist. Lord Weidenfeld (George to his friends), was born in Vienna in 1919.
When he was 19, in 1938, Hitler made his Anschluss of Austria into Nazi Germany. Being Jewish, and aware of the dangers that lay ahead (his father had already been arrested) he left Austria five months later in late summer. I asked him last night if he had a hard time getting out. He replied that it was the "getting in" that was hard – finding a country who would take him in. Through a relative he was able to get a visa to enter England. Because he was proficient in five languages and the threat of war was heating up, he got a job with the BBC monitoring other radio reports from all over Europe. Three years later he was a political commentator for the BBC and writing a weekly newspaper column. He was also able to get his parents out of Austria.
After the war he was selected by Chaim Weizmann, the first President of Israel to work as his political adviser and Chief of Cabinet. He was 29 years old, and working along with Ben-Gurion, Golda Meir, Moshe Dayan. The job brought him to New York with Weizmann in 1948/49, to the United Nations to work on establishing a place at the table for Israel. At about that same time, he co-founded a publishing firm in London with Nigel Nicolson, son of Vita Sackville-West and Sir Harold Nicolson, and author of his parents' relationship, "Portrait of a Marriage."
In those first years traveling to New York he was able to meet American publishers and make associations with them. Among his early best-sellers was "Lolita." New York in the 1950s, he recalled for me, was a world where society and the elite entertained at home. The circle of friends and connections was wider than it is today. Social hostesses put a premium on conversation and "interesting" people, so talent – writers and playwrights, painters, actors – had a strong place at the table. Mrs. Cass Canfield, wife of the president of Harper & Bros. (later Harper & Row and now HarperCollins) was known for her hospitality and her scintillating guests.
Although he wouldn't have said it, and perhaps never considered it, it is obvious, and I'd heard many times before last night, that George Weidenfeld is a brilliant and charming man who is very easy to talk to. Not surprisingly he's long been much sought as a guest, and made scores of friends and acquaintances along the way. In 1969 he was knighted and in 1976, he was created a Life peer as Baron Weidenfeld of Chelsea. In 2011 he was appointed Knight Grand Cross of the Order of the British Empire (GBE).
Although he is no longer running a publishing house, evidently he is still active in finding works to publish. In 2005 he arranged the publication of "Mercury & Identity, by John Paul II. His involvement with Israel remains. He's been Chairman of Ben Gurion University of Negev, a Governor of Tel Aviv University, Governor of the Weizmannn Institute, Vice Chair of the EU Israel Forum, among several interests.
In our conversation last night, I asked him about his experiences during the Second World War and his coming to America, and working for Israel, and the UN. We also touched on the changes in the social life of New York over those decades. He thinks that the "changes" occurred with the Viet Nam War and then with the growing "interest in spectacular wealth" and its display. A forest of orchids filling a dining room for a dinner party, for example, might have replaced the quest for interesting talent and conversation, he said. Mrs. Cass Canfield, he said, wouldn't have even thought of entertaining her guests with spectacular displays of wealth. He said there are those today who entertain, but only among themselves.
Our hostess last night, Shirley Rosenthal – who has known Lord Weidenfeld for many years – is an excellent example of what he was referring to in recalling a different standard. Her guest list at dinner is populated with writers, editors, socialites, business people and artists. When the main course and dessert was finished, the tables are still occupied with conversation. You come away having got to know someone you may never have met before, and learning something you never knew or never considered. Last night it was for her guest of honor and it was a gift for all of us.
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Snarky and Evil had another suggestion - not only does Peeping Tammy "remind" your DH of his mother (or her sister - grandma if he really wants to get the point across) in her looks - but she uses the same cologne that his relative does......If that doesn't get the message across that he does not think of her as a potential "romantic" partner - well, he'd have to do the equivalent of running over her with the Cluedozer - twice.
Well, some people are in to that sort of thing.... there's a whole website devoted to married people looking for someone else.Like I said earlier, how is she supposed to know he doesn't want her to come on to him, unless he asks her not to? Sure, most people don't come on to someone they know is married, but not everyone... and it doesn't make them rude. Catcalling, I agree with... but the general flirting, etc. is not rude in my book.
Quote from: Girly on December 04, 2012, 02:03:11 PMWhile she has participated in some odd and inappropriate behavior, I'm not sure this lady is a 'creep', and they need to take personal safety into account here.....Personal safety does not have to be at risk for someone to be a creepy. She is certainly impeding the OP and the OP's DH from reasonable usage and enjoyment of their home. And she's doing it in a creepy way - a way that makes them uncomfortable and possibly feeling icked out and getting and shivers up the spine when thinking of having to interact with her or be caught in the elevator with her, etc - that to me makes her a creep.
While she has participated in some odd and inappropriate behavior, I'm not sure this lady is a 'creep', and they need to take personal safety into account here.....
I agree, no, no, nooooo to the word "tempting." That comes off as encouragement. Sounds as though he's not even remotely tempted. Updates, OP?
I think the discussions about people having open marriages and "what if the genders were reversed" are making this a bit more complicated than it needs to be - even if it was a man calling out to a girl, the first step should always be "tell them clearly you are not interested and that they need to stop".
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I think that they have definatley gotten better! The sparkling effect of the vampires and the wolves were excellent. I liked how the wolves looked so real, especially when they were in the fight scenes - they moved so fluidly.
I didnt like how the vampires shattered like glass until i realised that it was more like ice than glass. after all, they are described like ice in the books. I did, however, like the efect of them breaking and being attacked better in New Moon because it was more like granite/stone. It seemed a lot more realistic i guess
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Mandy writes cheque for UK tech biz
Funds for small biz
Lord Mandelson of Foy has announced a £30m fund to invest in small and medium UK technology firms.
The money will be managed by TTP Ventures. Development money is available to small and medium-sized IT, electronics and instrumentation firms. The money, part of the Enterprise Capital Funds scheme, is aimed at high-growth firms looking for funding up to a maximum of £2m.
Mandelson, in his guise as Minister for Business, Enterprise and Regulatory Reform, said: "It is crucial small and medium sized firms looking to invest in and grow their businesses are able to access the finance they need."
The government has pledged £60m a year for investment in ECFs.
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HONESDALE - Breastfeeding classes open to all expectant mothers will be offered by Wayne Memorial Hospital and the Women's Health Center, part of Wayne Memorial Community Health Centers, (WMCHC) which offers maternity services including prenatal, labor and delivery and postpartum care.
"Although the class is ideal for women who are at least 32 weeks pregnant and interested in learning more about breastfeeding it will also be beneficial for those who aren't sure if they want to breastfeed, however, and want to make an informed decision," stated Kara Poremba, RN, BSN, certified breastfeeding counselor and class instructor from the Women's Health Center.
Class dates are Mondays, June 30, July 28 or Aug. 25 from 6 p.m. to 8 p.m. at Wayne Memorial Hospital's David Katz Conference Center.
Women may sign up for any one of the two-hour sessions which covers the following topics: benefits of breastfeeding, tips for getting started, deep versus shallow latch, how much and how often baby should eat, common challenges, pumping and weaning.
The class fee is $20. The cost of the class is covered for women belonging to Pennsylvania's Healthy Beginnings Plus Program, a state run program serving the needs of low-income women by helping them achieve a positive pregnancy experience.
To register or for more information, call the Women's Health Center at 570 253-3005 or 1-800-869-6636. Space is limited.


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Gascoigne finishes 21st at state
South Loup's Lane Gascoigne wound up finishing in a tie for 21st at the Class D state golf tournament. He shot an 82 the first day and an 89 on the second day of the tournament. As a team, South Loup finished 13th overall with a team total of 772. Mullen also was able to qualify for state as a team and they finished 15th. Their total score has not yet been determined. For extended coverage, see the May 31st edition of the Custer County Chief.


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They do seem to log at least one thing: the link in the search result you click on.
This is what Google does too, it is to see if what people clicked on to move the more popular higher.
And possibly log other things, probably not very user specific though.
However they could log per IP-address and browser string too which can be very specific.
It's still a big improvement above Google of course:
They don't communicate a referer to the site you visit (because of HTTPS) and they don't have a free analytics service for websites which tracks movement on websites, or own 2 ad-services and or an embedded free video service. And no Facebook-button competitor and no free enbeddable Javascript-libraries and fonts- service for webdevelopers.


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The 11-room inn, a former dairy barn which was renovated in 1997, continues to be the top-rated TripAdvisor Millersburg, Ohio property, rated #1 in their popularity index. "Paul and I consider this to be one of the most outstanding achievements in our years of serving people. It is such an honor to receive this award."
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Hurry and visit Mammoth before the skiing season ends they plan to close May 28, 2012.
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Mammoth is Epic right now they have just received in the last 24 hours 2' more inches of snow. Mammoth is the place to be.
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Fishing can be done in many ways - from shore or a boat, from a dock, in lakes and rivers and streams. There are a variety of fishing techniques, in addition to gear, baits and lures. Mammoth Lakes has Sporting Good Stores and Guides that can help you with your fishing needs. With all the different possibilities, there's something for everyone. What are you waiting for?
Mono County fishing season starts the last Saturday in April and ends on November 15th of every year, however, the catch and release fisheries of the Upper Owens River above the Benton Bridge to Big Springs, the East Walker River below Bridgeport Reservoir, and Hot Creek, will remain open year round.
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Mark your calendars for SpringFest April 20-22, which will also feature the infamous Mammoth Pond Skim at Canyon Lodge along with world-class snowboarding events including the Volcom Peanut Butter and Rail Jam Championships and the Active Brodown Showdown. Mammoth rental by owner would love to put you in one of our great units!
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