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"No-work day" confusionDominica News Online - Monday, August 27th, 2012 at 1:00 PM
Private sector workers may have to depend on the goodwill or generousity of their employers if they are to get paid for the "no-work day" advised by Prime Minister Roosevelt Skerrit last week in the face of a threat by Tropical Storm Isaac.
This is because the "no-work day" was not a public holiday which can only be proclaimed by the President of Dominica.
"Legislation and practice in Dominica restrict payment of wages to days when work is done, when statute provides for absences and when absences are authorized, in advance or afterwards, by the employer," Executive Director of the Dominica Employer Federation, Achille Chris, Joseph said. "In the case of the storm threat to our nation, the Prime Minister advised (not declared or promulgated or proclaimed) that employees remain home to secure their person and property."
According to Joseph the "no-work day" by the Prime Minister was not a public holiday, which only the President of Dominica can proclaim, and "therefore employees do not have the legitimate claim to receive wages."
However he was quick to point out that it does not mean workers who remained home will not receive wages. "It means that this is best left to the employer or the employee to agree," he said.
He noted there is a need for a private sector regime or understanding on "no-work days" which are not public holidays in Dominica. "We can't go back and forth every time a "no-work day" is called for safety reasons. We need to agree that workers be paid, not paid or partially paid," Joseph pointed out.
Joseph said the matter will certainly be a topic for discussion at the upcoming Annual General Meeting of the DEF.
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118 Comments
In the absence of transparency there is reasonable cause for speculation and there is obviously a great disconnect between the president's office and that of the PM. I cannot understand why in this day and age of quick communication there is so much miscommunication or the lack thereof between the office of PM and president. It seems to me that mistrust and resentment maybe the reason why the high offices in the country are on different trails.
I cannot help but to wonder why the president is being sidelined by the PM on many issues. A man of this caliber and stature ought to be embarrassed and so I believe that Mr Liverpool is quitting and is conveniently using health reasons as an excuse.
Clearly recollecting that on the 4th of January 2010 Prime Minister Skerrit announced a public holiday on a public platform to celebrate his landslide victory in the general elections held on the 18th of December 2009. NOT the president.It was a indeed holiday.I stay home and water my garden and I got paid. Now if this situation in regards to the pay of employees would have been different based on the fact that no work day was proclaimed by the president and then isn't what happened back in January 2010 a total contradiction to what this article is implying. Really I don't even know what to believe when I hear officials talk in this country because you hear one thing you see another. Not because they think they can fool us means we are fools.
All the Goods in Roseau would not be able to compensate for one life being lost!!
Instead o0f thanking God for hiding Dominica in the eye of that storm throughout its passage we grumbling!!
I will talk sometime about God having spoken to Dominica as a nation and our refusal to take note.
So what is this fuss about and who is making the fuss? I have not read anything about employers' complaints. If they did, surely it should have been posted on DNO.
The PM gave a day off due to an imminent hurricane so that Dominicans could prepare for the inevitability, should DA have been unfortunate to experience one.
Now, there are those who are arguing about the day off and who should pay it. Did the employers who were affected by this day off complain? It is their prerogative if they wish to pay their employees for the day off. On the other hand they would be mean not to pay their staff for that day.
There is a simple solution to this. The staff could make up for it in a different way. They could come early to work and leave later over a period of days, if their employer requires it of them. How often some employees will work extra hours/time and they are not compensated? They should keep a record of the time they worked extra hours and were not paid for it in the event in future such occur.
My suggestion is since some people lambaste the Prime Minister for announcing the day off, in future, he should either keep quiet or give them the ultimatum to go to work or not, allowing them or their employer to make the decision. In this case they would not complain about being told to take the day off to prepare for the hurricane. There will be some people who will still not be satisfied. One way or the other some of them cannot be pleased. This is un-Christian like.
The PM did not deserve this flack from those of you complainers and critics.
Archille you guys should have consulted Parry Bellot on how the shut down would affect "Pro Duck TV Tea."(lol)
All you where Parry. I would like to nominate Parry Bellot to assess the impact on "Pro Duck TV Tea" due to Skerrit Bravado and neglect for president .I am sure Parry would use his award winning model to assess the "Pro Duck TV tea" losses .
What brought about this comment by Assille so many days after? Did some one who will not be paid by an employer make a report to DEF? I wonder whether those people who are lamenting that the PM had no right to declare a " No work day" went to work that day? Or how many of them are willing to forfeit their day's pay? I went to work that morning and few businesses like shops and supermarkets were opened. Even the bus drivers went to play dominoes and drink rum instead of plying their route. Employers pay your workers because you might lose more than that days pay. Remember there are many more Hurricane seasons; and this one is not over yet.j
Achilles you must stop the nonsense you doing. If you are for workers you should look to their interest. But as can be seem by your previous actions you are for the Employers. . . wanting to make Sunday a regular working day so they don't have to pay double time to person that must work. Why don't you push to make Saturday a regular work day and force the Seventh Day Adventist to turn out to work.. NO>>> because Saturday is the HOLY SABBATH..
Stop being nonsensical.
work lover ! i totally agree with you….and if the storm don't wipe them out, those employees will…iv seen it happen before….so this is for all the business persons out there ..pay your workers pleeezzzzzzzzz cuz if hurricane Issac don't get you, hurricane disgruntled employees will
@ as i see
As broadcasted on the news, you noted what Isaac has done to the Dominican Republic? It is now on its way to New Orleans, U.S.A. Dominicans are fortunate that they escaped Isaac's wrath. They should be thanking God as well as their employers instead of worrying about a day's pay. I hope they are not all worrying about it. If Isaac has hit DA they probably would have lost much, more than a day's pay and probably a few. Who would then pay them?
What brought up this comment by Assille so many days after? Did someone who will not be paid by an employer make a report to DEF? Also, I wonder how many people who are lamenting that the PM had no right to declare a "no work day" went to work that day or how many of them who did not work are willing to forfeit the day's pay? I went to work that morning and few businesses like private grocery shops and supermarkets were opened. Even bus drivers went to play dominoes and drink rum instead of driving their buses.
Let us all stop and read our comments that we have written are we no spoiling our country name the country we say we love and can die for, nothing is sweeter than our country? stopping pulling our country down by one pulling one side and the other is pulling another side. Mr telemac is correct with what he said I have work as a teacher and for the summer holiday to get paid you have to do the summer camp class or else get a job for the 2 months that you are not at work I guess if we travel we will know the pros and cons of other countries is not just listening to hear say If you all had listen to the PM he say he and all the officials were at the headquaters of the diseaster preparedness office who know if the PM and the President waz on the telephone at the moment come on let us join our heart ,hand and work together to build our nation is ours it's not the government own to build let don't destroy it. let us all pray together to have a happy Dominica.
So is it confirmed that the PM had absolutely NO communication with the President?
I understand the concern and the PM may or may not be stepping over his 'powers' (for lack of a better word) but at the time he got the advisories and other notifications what options are he left with?
Now, I do not hate the PM. I simple wish that he would exercise his prime ministerial authority and conduct himself in a more dignified and lawful manner as I expect any Prime Minister of Dominica to do as the head of the government.
Even though Dominica was severely devastated by the storm, it would not have changed the fundamental point that the PM acted ultra vires his authority and conducted himself without observing proper protocol.
Once again, he may have had good intentions but he demonstrated his intent in the wrong way, without the necessary class and protocol expected of a Prime Minister under the circumstances. In any event, it is time that some people, like you get it. We are not arguing the reasonableness or prudence of the Prime Minister's decree. Again and again, it is about the way in which things are done. In every situation, there is procedural and substantive correctness.
Roseau Valley
This time I must inform you, you should conduct yourself in a dignified manner and have respect for the PM. You are lacking it. Some of you have too much mouth, as the saying. It is time to let sleeping dogs lie. What is done is done and cannot be undone. It is water under the bridge which already flowed out to the sea and which you cannot see.
The next time the PM should keep silent and allow you to go to work. Whatever would occur then, do not blame him. Keep this in mind and in your archives for the hurricane season in 2013.
It may be that Dominica may get a bad hurricane then because there are too many ungrateful people who love to criticize. They will be punished. It appears to be one of their traits as yourself.
What a country this is. The man tell all you already Dominica difficult to manage. But then an inefficient manager seeks to blame everybody else before looking at him/her self. Everything is Loosy goosy – whre is the attorney general to advise the PM; what about one of the seven advisors excluding the spiritual advisor; where is Lennox Lawrence, Alick , Tony when the PM is making all those Billy the kid gun slinging decisions.
How can we expect growth and development when the administration is screwing up on basic matters; mistakes on garbage bib transactions; mistakes on taxes; mistakes on loans from china and the Dominican people are not employed on the projects nor are their major subcontracts for Dominican owned businessess; the Airport Road project short by over million dollars; airport night landing a disaster; the list goes on. If after 14 years in government these guys are not getting it- when will they get it. As I have noted before conventional wisdom shows that after 10 years the performance of a government administration don't expect performance. In fact we should brace ourselves – the worse is yet to come.
@ Laka Gwen
Some of them like to project their authority with nothing substantial behind it. It may be that they never expected to be in a certain position which is why they carry-on in that manner. Imagine wasting time to discuss a day off which occurred sometime ago.
I must say that the comments by Mr. Achille is rather unfortunate, as it clearly shows attempts to create confusion for decisions that were non-issues under other administrations, and are non -issues in other countries I may add.
The fact that we were spared from the storm, those not diminish the possible risk to the lives of our people if the storm had run its course. No employer should view the safety of his/her staff as secondary and challenge the responsibility of the Prime Minister to protect his citizens, by not paying wages.
IF we have become so reckless and unconcerned about the safety of our people that we encourage profits before people, then I say that it is time to review the rights of employees, in light of those employers who are "bad" corporate citizens.
Safety should never be compromised so I advise the writer to occupy himself with things that can strengthen DEF and not create unnecessary confusion.
Commonsense is really not common.
I think you might be confused. You should have called yourself "false"- definitely not "Truth" for all what you have expressed is actually untrue.
Mr. Joseph's comments are on point. His comments compliment what Mr. Curtis Augustus had already explained with regard to Merchant's holiday on 2nd January. What the man said is the truth. I am sorry that some of us simply cannot handle truth even if we call ourselves truth.
I must say that your comments are unfortunate, as it clearly show that you cannot handle clarity, truth and perhaps you are more comfortable existing in a world of lies, spin and confusion.
Why is it that when anyone tries to enlighten the people, he/she is so viciously attacked for trying? Lennox, Matt, and Fontaine have all found themselves faced with law suits and rather than identifying the true enemies, parading as leaders, we blame the messengers.
Perhaps you are correct that no employer should view the safety of his/her staff as secondary but that does not address the issue.
It is not we the people (employers/employees) who have become so reckless and unconcerned. No one is advocating negligence with the safety of our people. People are concerned that the PM acted improperly, in breach of protocol and the guidelines of the National Disaster Preparedness Plan
This has nothing to do with the rights of rights of employees or being a good or bad corporate citizen. It has more to do with the repeated failure of the Prime Minister to follow the laws of Dominica. We cannot continue to compromise the integrity of our laws to allow our Prime Minister to act as he wishes as if we are in a dictatorship.
With all due respect, you are advised to focus on the issues and the consequential political, socio-economic and legal impact of the irrational statements and conduct of those who profess to be our political leaders and causing confusion in Dominica. Do not blame Mr. Joseph. You contribution bears witness that commonsense is really not common.
Roseau Valley,
If the storm had ran it's course, and persons were lost their lives either by being covered by landslides or failure to secure their family ( kids or grandparents etc), the above discussion would not have been an issue.
Mr. Joseph expressed an issue but failed to highlight the fact that even if the law does not adequately address the issue, that a socially responsible cop orate citizen should not deny workers pay, as the matter at hand was the endangerment or non -endangerment of employees.
So the decision to highlight the matter now, a few days before payday, is as far as I'm concerned is acting as a catalyst for confusion!
I will reiterate if we had been affected by the storm, this would be a non-issue so in your quest to make issues only about the Prime Minister, I say SAfety of people come first over profits!
When the lives of citizens may be at stake, what do you say, let them die because it's only the President that can authorize a holiday.
BRavo then to you, when you are in the hot seat and the lives of your citizens are in your hands, and you say, I don't have the authority so let them die.
When they wanted the president to sign an emergency reprieve so that the senators of salibury and Marigot could contest the illegal Bi-elections that was done in a hurry but they could not get the president to declare a no work day even when they had ample notice of the threatening storm. That tell us how much they really care about people. Their focus is to play politics by trying to promote themselves when they issue a simple cautionary – "yeh yeh yeh see how much we care we gave you a warning ". They were so caught up in trying to get this on their Kairi program that they did not even stop to think that we have a president ( useles as he is ) let us at least make himearn 1/10 th of his pay.
It was NOT a holiday!!! Stop referring to a WEATHER ADVISORY as a holiday. Isaac was lashing Florida yesterday, buses, everything shut down. I have yet to hear one news reporter refer to it as a HOLIDAY.
Secondly, President Obama didn't have to give a STATE OF THE UNION address about no work. From the time the Hurricane Center gave their OPINION on where the storm would pass, business places gave notice that they were closing. So all that stupidness people coming and run their mouth about just showing to the whole wide world how idiotic we can act.
My dear, the US government and laws are completely different to the Commonwealth of Dominica and its laws. Please stop comparing US to Dominica ok. Under our laws and constitution, this needs to be advised by the President of Dominica. Unless they change the laws saying that it is the PM responsibility or the responsibility of the office of disaster preparedness; then the responsibility remains in with the office of the President of the Commonwealth of Dominica. Please not that you can find a copy of the constitution online, its a good read.
I shall not react too strongly or detailed to your comment as you have already secured over 19 thumps up. The laws of nature may suggest that at least 20 persons must be wiser than the 2 who have given you thumps down. However, in the instant case, the two thumps down make much more sense than the 20 thumps up.
Therefore, I accept being called a "stupid person who is running my (mouth) fingers on a keyboard and just showing to the whole wide world how idiotic people like you can be with statements like "President Obama didn't have to give a STATE OF THE UNION address about no work".
Who said that anyone asked Mr. Skerrit to make a "State-of-the Union-like address", which is something that is planned long in advance and is locked into the American political calendar. What you should have noted is that in case of an national disaster or emergency, president Obama would call a press conference from the White House or wherever he is and invite all white House reporters/correspondents from the major news networks or he may advise the media houses of a planned address to the nation (Not a State of the Union address), which would then be broadcasted by different media houses simultaneously, if they so choose to broadcast the address in its entirety or in parts or have it recorded for future broadcast.
I may not know the media business at the back of my hand like Kamala but this is how it is done
For those of you bashing Achille Joseph, wipe the politics off your eyes and smell the coffee. Achille may have said some things in the past but we are now dealing with the present. If the PM knows he cannot declare a public holiday, why didn't he make it clear in his statement that he is 'advising' and not 'declaring'? He may not have declared it but Dominicans did not need to hear anymore.
In the US, some jobs allow you to accumulate Paid Days Off (PDO) or some call it Paid Time Off (PTO). However you call it, this can be used in times when you may experience a short fall in your pay. Dominique pas ni sa!! There is no such thing especially for non-salaried workers!! Now, all the salaried workers who running their mouths should be considerate to those non-salaried workers. Government workers and others on salary know that at the end of the month, their salary is the same. What about those who get paid based on how many days they work? Grow a conscience!! Most of you allow selfishness and politics to blind you and make a fool of yourselves. Think of the other people.
Right now, I would like to know which employers are lining up to pay workers for a day they did not work!! When you find it out, let me know. DNO would be right there!!
Dumb Dominicans, why cant you all understand that a hurricane is an act of god, and that the PM was just being safe by wanting to protect all of you and your properties. You all greedy sets of people does not understand what danger lies in the path of a hurricane and it's much better to be safe than sorry. So for all of you ignorant stupid dumb people who are blaming the PM, why don't you all say a prayer for him for he may have saved your worthless lives on that day. DUMB-MINICANS.
what I really don't understand about Dominica is that there is something called Dominica Employers Federation and it has executives who gets paid. Why can't the executive of this federation, make a proposal to amend the labour law and get rid of those 'grey areas'..instead of arguing and making such charming statements?
You fella I always don't understand why you so angry and hateful. I have addressed you before on that. Don't you listen to the news … Well I guess that a State of Emergency be declared in future when we have those occurences. So you would not want to use any opportunity to get back at the PM. I am sure you have not been following lately the weather pattern. Do you remember the Flooding of Canefield down to Coulibistrie on the West Coast. You as an Employer would definitely have no regard for your Wmployee who could not get home as quickly as should be. So discretion should be used if your Employee lives in the Country and commute to town daily. Well those who live close by in town can probably form the skeleton staff for the organisation. Arenot we suppose to work as a team and if the Owner Manager lives in town and close by then they can chip in and workers who live close by can do some work. Aren't we suppose to keep each others back evenif we don't work in some departments???
The Prime Minister did the right thing. Employers should simply use this day as a sick day or vacation day without occurrence for their employees. What was done was not in personal self-interest but for personal safety of all Dominicans. Is this even a topic for discussion? Would you prefer being at work not knowing whether you can get back home or have the safety of your children at school in question? Move on, it was the right thing to do. End of story go back to work, move on.
I love that comment. Well said. They want everything from you. They don't care about your well being but just your service. If I was an Emplyer infact I am in a situation like this I would pay or perhaps use as paid sick days. Do you employees know how many paid sick days you are allowed for a year.? I am sure many don't know and Mr Joseph should know that as well. If they knew that then certain persons would not take advantage of them with their rubbish. People know your rights.
That is the problem with you people in Dominica, no body wants to follow rule of law or protocol. The simple matter is that the PM had no legal right to declare a 'no work' day. That is the responsibility of the President. Now if the President is not available or is not there, then an acting President should be the one to carry out the functions on his behalf. We need to start following the rule of law in this country; that's why things are so haywrire in the country at times because everyone just wants to do as they please. Not even the PM should be given the chance to just do as he pleases because he should lead by example. The issue is not that a 'no work' day was called, but the office which called for this 'no work' day.
PM should declare free tax day for employers. that should solve the matter.
mm August 27, 2012
Or the PM shpuld encourage employees to come to the Red Clinic for their missing days pay and that would close the matter once and for all so stop trying to find blame Mr. Joseph he's going according to what's in the LAW.
I don't see the reasons for bashing Achille Joseph. He did't say the PM did the wrong thing.
All he is saying that there are no provisions in law dealing with 'no-work days' when they pop up like the one recently.
I think he is right in saying the gov't should look into that and make sure there is something etched in stone for when these situations occur.
Thank you so very much Mr. Achille Chris Joseph for this. Thank you.
I wish the Prime Minister had contacted you and/or his Labour Department for quality professional advice before the public pronouncement of his decree on a narrow, political, partisan private radio station. This wish has nothing to do with the lack of class, professionalism and appropriate protocol with which the decree was handed down and which it should have deserved.
Archille is correct that the "no-work day" the decree by the King was not a legal statutory public holiday, which only the President of Dominica (Oh! poor our President!!!) can proclaim, and therefore (private sector) employees do not have a legal right to claim wages.
With regard to public servants, I would strongly advise Mr. Letang of the DPSU to fight that notion in favour of for public sector workers, who I believe have a "legitimate expectation" of payment as the decree was made by the Head of Government and the Minister of Finance of the state – the employer, with which public workers are contracted.
Between Mr. Joseph and Mr. Lennox Linton, the real impact of the repeated conduct of Mr. Skerrit has been exposed-never mind the aimless attack of the journalist Kamala. What Mr. Joseph is now advising the nation is what the many workers at the Call-in-Center in Canefield were already advised by their management. In fact, the unlawful proclamation of his almighty Prime Minister was not applicable to the poor workers, who had to report to work at Clear Harbour.
You see, we now exist in a lawless state. There is no respect for our Constitution and our laws. Our lawyers have all donned the mask of professional silence and those who are in a position to know better have chosen to look the other way.
The country is being governed by decree of the King. He visits the elderly and decides on the spot that this person will get a house paid for by the government. This one will get a street light next to her home. This one will get a monthly stipend and this one will not. He who supports the government will get a scholarship and he who does not will not. He who scores a century in a test match at our stadium will get instant Dominica Citizenship etc. etc. It is all about what king Skerrit thinks and says whenever he says it and wherever he thinks of it. That is how we have come. This is how we like our governance in Dominica.
Whereas most workers have the right to a minimum amount of paid holiday, this must be contractual or based on lawfully declared statutory holidays. This includes all workers- full-time, part-time, salaried (monthly) or waged (non monthly) workers and excludes self-employed workers who are not entitled to statutory paid holiday.
One's employment contract may give him a contractual right to be paid over and above a lawfully declared amount of statutory holidays. No Constitution- No Law can limit one's right to negotiate additional paid contractual holidays beyond the lawfully declared statutory holidays. But this was not what the Prime Minister decreed nor does he posses the lawful authority to so decree.
What is clear is that workers in Dominica are not legally entitled to receive pay for the "no-work day" advised by Prime Minister Roosevelt Skerrit As the Prime Minister of Dominica, the Head of government and Minister of Finance, Mr. Skerrit's may only exercised his discretionary authority as an employer over public servants to the extent that the law and the bargaining rights with the public sector union allows him.
As Mr. Joseph has advised, the Prime Minister does not have the legal authority to declare a statutory public holiday that would impact private workers. Therefore, private sector employers are NOT obligated pay those workers who stayed home and it really depends on the generosity of employers if they are to get paid.. ..because the "no-work day" was not a lawfully declared, statutory public holiday, which can ONLY be proclaimed by the President of Dominica, if there is one.
I cannot but agree with Mr. Joseph that it is time that our Labour Laws are revised and brought up-to-date not just to Caribbean standards under the Caribbean Harmonization of Labour Laws initiative but in accordance with the standards of the ILO and other international human rights instruments.
Our many trade unions must work together with the government and the private sector to put in place a proper regime or understanding on "no-work days" which are not public holidays in Dominica. This is not a matter to be governed by an impromptu and ill-advised decree from King Skerrit.
A simple internet search reveals, for example, that in the Phillipines, a "Memorandum Circular NO. 01," was issued pursuant to the provisions of the Labor Code, as amended in relation to the observance of declared holidays in response to queries received from the public every time a Presidential Proclamation or a law is enacted by the Congress, which declares certain days either as a regular holiday, a special day or a special working holiday. The government has issued guideline, which governs all employers in the private sector.
I suspect that the Skerrit lead Labour administration will soon self-destruct and their demise will have nothing to do with the UWP but their own ignorance, arrogance, foolish advice and their collective stupidity. I have no fear that we shall reclaim Dominica and set it on the right path of progress beyond the Next Level.
We have already been advised by the Secretary-Treasurer of WAWU that holidays such as Merchant Holiday is not a public holiday and workers are not entitled to extra pay for those who work on that day. This matter is clear. I look forward to hearing from Mr. Letang and Mr. Arundale Thomas, others from the DPSU and the representative of the DAIC on the matter.
Shut your mouth and stop trying to politicise this thing. Are you one of those who do not care for the safety of your workers and all you want is you rwork done at whatever cost. This is not something to talk about. What are your comments on paid sick days which persons here do not want to pay. Do you know that Women can get periodical pain that can render them sick and may not require them to spend to go to the doctor or may have a flu which it is better to stay home because of the high and Cold incidence of the Air condition and just stay home in the warmer air can cure this for the day. So wehn your donkey sick just for one day, you would not pay them? Love less people and cantankerous people!
How can you say nobody will read the man novel?
You see wrong people can be, the got twelve thumbs up and twelve down, and I have read him, making at least twenty-six people including you his novel.
Always remember one mans meat is another mans poison; and the more some of us read it's the more open minded we become, and learning something in the process.
I read him all the time, though this time I do not completely agree that the laws must be changed to make it mandatory for people to get paid on occasions they did not work.
Pay comes through productivity, if one produced anything for his/her employer that day or days, why should that person be paid for the day the person was not on the job?
Only in the Caribbean people look forward for that sort of thing. As I said it is a cultural thing where we believe we must get something for nothing all the time at someone else expense!
Where it pertains to work, the arrangements are simple as a, b, c: we exchange labor for money, when someone work they give labor to themselves, or an employer for money.
If I did not labor for an employer for one day, why should I be paid for doing nothing?
I once operated an electronic business on the island of Antigua, if I stayed home everyday with the doors of the business closed, for a for a week or a month, and not a single bit of electronic equipment sold nor any repairs conducted:
Where was I going to get the money from to pay myself and the three others who were in my employment.
That is how business works, I do not agree that anybody should write a cheque to someone just for the hell of it.
Now in some large countries, one may be able to collect from some labor Unions, they pay into a fund for that purpose. Remember also people contribute to unemployment.
However, in the event one walks off the job, and decides to file for unemployment, they are not paid one dime, however if they are fired from the job, they will be in a position to collect unemployment for at leas one year granted, after that perhaps an extension for six month!
Other than that you've have to stand in the welfare line; and that also is not a free lunch, it does not last forver.
Francisco Etienne-Dods Telemaque
Thanks for taking the time to comment. I shall not confuse nor construe "Kee" as "everybody."
You see Kee, I do understand that no every one will read my lengthy comments, which are not targeted at people like you. I am well aware that my contributions are excessively long and I apologize for that. But when I submit comments, my only hope is that at least one person will read it and understand it. I know that many DNO readers will be turned off but I take the risk that 1 out of 5 people will read and understand the point that I am trying to make.
I appreciate the fact that you have taken the time to make a brief comment, even if you did not read my contribution. That's okay. I thank you. You are so kind.
emma August 27, 2012
Amen to that! The Honourable Prime Minister continues to make a mockery of the established systems of government, including the Constitution; case in point…the proposed resignation of His Excelleny the President.
This guy always seem to say things that others are afraid to say, or bring out discussions which we often overlook. Isn't he right about the pay issue? Is there a law which says he is wrong? Can the Unions come forward and prove him wrong? As a matter of fact, I think he is so right that the "no-work day" affected the DAIC's Shop Dominica weekend. Businesses which were forced to close on Wednesday just could not give better bargains on the weekend.
What DAIC Shop Dominica Weekend? A Weekend when persons are not paid and when Mothers are buying expensive books and school material for school reopening in September. Put your priorities right. That planned DAIC Dominica Shop Weekend was out of place – time was not the correct timing.
Here we go again talking crazy, making a mountain out of nothing!
This is simply a matter of politicizing the issue.
Assuming that Skerrit had not advised the people to remain at home, thus making it a no work day, and the private sector employees, and civil servants went out to work; and a hurricane eventually struck; people may be killed, or disappeared in the storm.
I suppose Achille would be singing a different tune.
No need to be reminded that has happened in Dominica: i.e., Marigot , and I believe elsewhere on the island.
If Skerrit said nothing he and his subordinates would be blamed; I personally would have plenty to say about Ian Douglas, and that boy Timothy until East collide with West, make no mistake about it I like to pick them mercilessly!
They are my banging post, I like to beat up on them!
The decision to declare the day a no work day in anticipation for the expected bad weather which could have caused people their very life was indeed a very good one.
Achille is simply making an political issue out of this because a few employees may not be receiving a days pay.
What is more important, a few measly dollars for a days pay, or the human life?
Look at it this way, in North America, an individual gets sick cannot go to work for one or two days, civil servant, or from the private sector, their employer doses not pay them one dime!
They had better have some sort of insurance to submit a claim to in order to receive pay for that day. In Dominica and the rest of the Caribbean, during the colonial days when school break for the summer, and Christmas holidays, teachers were paid, I do not know if this practice continued after independence.
In the United States, when school breaks for summer holidays, that teacher, university, or collage professors, if they want to be paid for the time they will be on holidays, they may have to find a job outside of teaching!
When I worked for Wyle Laboratories, I was working a straight twenty-four hours conducting a test on a bit of equipment now in use in space; I became exhausted and fell down a stairs, I almost died they took me to the hospital, I stayed home for seven days, when I went to collect my pay cheque, I found out they paid me to the minute the paramedics picked me up and took me to the hospital, I went to human resources to find out why.
I was told the only way I can recover pay for the days I spent in the hospital, I would have to file a workman's comp clam for worker compensation, from the company's workers compensation insurance.
All our behavior, and expectations in our country are simply cultural, however, to me it is unfair for an employer to pay someone a day pay when that person has not done a single stroke of work on that day.
There should be no discussion since there is nothing to be discussed except if it is about getting another free lunch!
Francisco Etienne-Dods Telemaque
Francisco, i don't know where you getting your fact.I live in north America and as a worker i am entitle to 15 sick days, 4 float days. The few time our office was close a decision made by management and i got paid for my day.
You said teacher don't get paid for summer holiday again my sister in law is a teacher and i happen to know that she get paid for 2 months of the summer plus public holiday and she get sicks day also.. so don't mislead persons
State the mane of the company you worked for: I named Wyle Laboratories situated in the city of El Segundo; take the street El Segundo head due West going towards the ocean, its an Environmental Testing Lab, where we tested all types of electronics use on aircrafts, and parts exposed to the elements in Space, that is why some of the equipments I worked on are presently in operation on the Space Station.
Perhaps you can call Wyle's and find out if I ever worked for their company, and what was my employment category, and what was my functional duties!
I do not talk BS only to be heard, if where you work people got together and decide to pay you for whatever reason, that does mean it is mandatory all over America!
And by the way my brother Watts, is in the State of New Jersey, he employs people, Dominicans also in the construction business, he deals with plenty of jobs for the city of Jersey, if you wish I can hook you up with him, and let him tell you if he pays people when they do not show up for work, Snow or Sunshine, or on a sick day.
And what you talking about accumulative sick days very few company's has that!
I have a sister in New Jersey working there for many years, she had to have surgery: while she was off work, she was not paid one single dime okay, so you can come with another theory, I stand by my words.
And perhaps you crawl and beg for them to pay you, like the usual Dominica kid want something for free so they felt sorry for you and gave you a handout.
Anyway in my situation here are my case numbers VNO 256928 Case #256923, that is a matter of public records, call the:
State Of California
Department Of Industrial Relations
Division Of Workers' Compensation
Workers' Compensation Appeals Board
Give them the case numbers above, and you can research my case, when you are through you will discover where I get my information.
VNO identify's the city where the case was heard.
You can call the company who thought they could screw me also:
Wyle Labs
128 Maryland Street,
El Segundo, Ca 90245
Anything you read from me I have something to substantiate my argument, because I do not have the time nor the courage to lie, and talk nonsense!
He who dealt with it knows it.
And do not ask me how my case was resolved and how much money I got out of it, I cannot tell you due to confidentiality documents I signed, but just be certain it was a considerable amount, I always win you see!
I will bet you anything you cannot state which company you work for if any. I do not know what state you reside into, but I am talking about California you see, it's a different ball game on this side of the world.
Francisco Etienne-Dods Telemaque
Have you forgotten that those who work part-time and get paid hourly in the U.S. or Canada, will not get paid for a day off or if they are late, be it for a snow storm.
Dominican employers should not look so closely. They should just pay their employees. God will bless them for it. What goes around comes around and two-fold.
@Francisco Telemaque…"'Look at it this way, in North America, an individual gets sick cannot go to work for one or two days, civil servant, or from the private sector, their employer doses not pay them one dime!They had better have some sort of insurance to submit a claim to in order to receive pay for that day."
REALLY Mr Telemacque? WOW!!! Papamet!! where in the US is that happening? anyways you are an authority on everything and when people caution you, you turn around and hurl insults so carry on.
DNO readers that is NOT TRUE all you I talking to. That is just not a factual statement not one single piece of it
You need to stop it. Gone are the days when people living in the first world would tell us anything and we would believe. There are good labor laws in the USA.
Yes people get sick days, Vacation days, personal days, holiday pay (there is a qualifying period usually 6mths on the job)
Your information is false. I work in USA too. I manage Human Resource. Stop this this. You may have personal experience, but it is not gospel. Yes, companies have workman compensation insurance for illness that last over a pre-determined period.
In dominica, if employees must be given the option by there employer to use a personal day, vacation day or simply make up the hours lost on that day.
It is something that can and should be dealt with by employees and policies should have been in place for these types of situation.
People, when you agree to a job, these are things you must know. Don't wait until a cituation arise to find out if you will receive payment of not.
Mr. Telemaque if it s rest will you!
I understand that due to the nature of some companies, especially where shift work is involved, the employees will recieve no pay. I understand the need for appropriate protocols to be followed. However, it is very rare that the type of advanced warnings that businesses would require is even possible where weather conditions are concerned – leaving little time for necessary protocol to be followed. Additionally, employees did not stay home of their own volition; this was a national order – maybe I'm thinking about this is the wrong way but I think that trumps any need that companies have to fulfill their quota for profit and productivity in a situation like this. I am open to an alternative view…
My pay was not affected by the decision of the PM to taek action to lessen/minimize on the potential for danger that was lurking around wit the impending storm. Those who had nothing to lose if people were caught stranded away from home and loved ones are the ones complaining the most.They blame the PM for the storm not blasting Dominica. They blame the PM for preparing the nation in the event of a catastrophe. They blame the PM for preparing for the worst but at the same time wishing for the best. They blame the PM and they continue to blame the PM. But who are the people who have been blaming the PM sinmce he came on the scene? We all know them. They do no even have a 'Zaypinar" tree to wory about. their wife and children were safe and thus they cared least about the masses who experienced the wrath of Ophelia last year, even when Ophelia did nopt even come close to Dominica. Did we expect the kind of collateral impact that Ophelia rained on us last year? I did not hear any of today's nay sayers complain of being impacted? The ordinary man in Mahaut, Massacre, canefield, layou, grand Fond, petitte Soufriere, Good Hope etc were the ones at risk. not htose who occupied the security of a studio at the time the storm was pouring rain on us.
PM Skerrit you acted rightly and properly in the interest of the people. We are happy that the storm veered away form us and did not impact us in th emanner we were told. If the National Hurricane centre issued a Tropical Storm Warning for Dominica and all indicatiosn were that Dominica was going to be impacted, shouldn't he authorities take note.
Remember when the PM was away on a private trip and the Hurricane devastated the cuntry? Can we remember the outcry from the same people about how the Pm left Dominicva at a time when there was not "watch" or "Warning" for Dominica.
Those who oppose Skerrit befoe will continue to do so especially as they now realize their campaign of removing Skerrit by any means is not going anywhere. They are very desperate. Those employers (Brisbane, Burton, Dupigny, Issa etc)who claim to love people more than Skerrit and knows whow to do thinhs to develop people better than Skerrit, should just pay the folks. This is good employer/employee relations.The company wil benefit from that gesture.
I not too that thePm did not declare a holiday contrary to the existing legislation. He took action in a situation of near emergency to safeguard life and limb. The people of Dominica will judge him for that.
Achille the law has a face. The face of the law is we the people. It is people who are called to enforce the laws and who respond to developments which the law may or may not have addressed when it was passed. Not every situation which confronts us can be dealt with using existing laws. The PM should take note and prepare a whole regime of legislation that speaks to forecasting storms, what action must be taken,when, by whom etc. etc. One search provisionhas to be that the Chief executive of the land, acting on the advice of the weather experts and disaster management professionals shall take action to protect the people including ordering a total shut down of the country. The cost of such an action shall be borne by the tax payers in th eform of tax rebates to the employers – as though tax rebate claim for wages and salary is not already a reality.
I am a bit tired of this whole debate actually. The PM doesn't have the authority to call a public holiday, etc. Fine and fair enough. In that case, perhaps the Office of the President should hold more power and responsibility? Because last I checked, the Met. Office reports to the Prime Minister's office and not to the President.
Given that, the PM "advised" the country to stay home due to the potential danger of the storm. This ends up meaning legally, employers are not obligated to pay their employees for the lost day as it was not technically a public holiday.
This is the part where we remove all moral and safety obligations from an employer: would it not be economically sound to keep your trained employees alive, rather than have them battle a storm to come in to work when most likely there are going to be no customers anyway? A storm was coming, I doubt people were casually strolling through Roseau and stopping for a bite of pizza or a cone full of ice cream.
The employer who refuses to pay their employees, even if partially, for the lost day of work due to safety reasons is foolish and callous. Further, in the long run you have given your employee reason to believe that their safety and well being is not as important as productivity – why should they be loyal to someone who sees them as a mere slave who has to work in order to eat?
Let us all be reminded that even pack mules and donkeys who can't til the soil of the farm on a rainy day get supper in the evening.
Just me August 27, 2012
That a great question, but it seem like the other way around. The predident gets his advise from the PM. Is anyone hearing from the President? The PM tells him when to talk.
Mr. President I dear you SAY SOMETHING.
This too easy, the way in wish wages or salaries are being paid is not on a clock system but rather on a monthly basis. Therefore, individuals should be paid. If on the other hand it was that of a clocking in and out system then there would off course be some concern, but it is not. There are employees that go to work and do absolutely nothing for the entire year but just being there.
When their is legislation(the Constitution or laws passed by Parliament) governing the exercise of the powers of the Executive it MUST be complied with by the Executive–President,PM, Cabinet, Ministers and Public Officers etc!The applicable written laws governing this situation include :Public Holidays Act and the Emergency Powers Act.
I recall a similar experience when I was working in St. Vincent when a storm developed with little warning. The PM asked employers to considering giving employees the day off in light of the coming storm, as a company (like almost all other companies) we felt we had no choice to allow staff to stay home and paid them for the day. But the employers made the decision, not the PM. The only challenge was that we had to communicate that to over 400 employees overnight. In the end it was not as challenging as we through.
Having made the recommendation, the PM demonstrated his concern for his people at the same time respect for law and businesses. The same result was achieved as basically everyone stayed home and got paid.
I heard you loud and clear, but in the land OF SKERRO, where he is King, President, Judge, Jury and Messiah all shall bow when he speaks regardless of the consequences. Who the hell are the business owners or President to to question his authority anyway? Those who have eyes will see, those with ears will hear and those with shall be moomoo no more. Time will tell…
Assertive, NOT Agressive!
Mr Joseph before a decision is made to declare a no work day the PM and his advisors should put all the cards on the table and dot the I and Tee s. Did they even think about using the president to declare a no work day.
So Archille is saying that some people never learn. They were so quick to run to the animal program on Kairi to ay politics that they ignore fundamentals.
What a mess we have as government. Never have we been ruled by such an incompetent bunch of men and women.
Our national anthem should now be the calypso "don't everything is upside down inside out" until we have a capable and straight government administration.
While I have no problem with workers getting paid for that day, who is taking up the case for the businessman who was forced to close down thus losing buisness from his customers and so not make any money. Workers get paid for that day but how do buisnesses get paid for lost sales.
Some thing should be put in place in the event that employees are kept at work and get affected by a storm then the employers can be held responsible. In that way some people will shut up when a goo will like that attempted by the Prime Minister is done. Let us remember Hurricane Lenny and what happened to some students and a teacher when people were asked to remain at their post. Then they were sent home when things were really bad. Remember this is weather we are playing with. If we rejoice that the prime minister acted wrongly, instead of praising God for his mercies – we will get burnt! Badly!
Agreed 200% If something had truly happened while these people were at work, would their employers be willing to pay their medical bills ??? It would have been worse for their employers financially if we have to think of it having to pay medical bills for so many employees if the storm had passed and injured people while at work. They wouldn't have mouth to talk if the storm had really hit us and caused damaged to their businesses. People God is in control and stop the fussing and fighting!!! The PM did a good thing.. Haven't you heard that 10 persons lost their lives in Haiti because of the storm .. PRECAUTION IS BETTER THAN CURE AND THIS IS WHAT THE PM DID. I would take all those business men to court for not paying worker's salary on that day .. They are too selfish and not giving thanks to God for his everlasting mercies towards us.. Things could have been different but He saw it fit to spare us so stop fighting and prolonging this issue and pray that God will continue to protect us..
Total…B.S!… You all would have preferred people went to work and got into some serious trouble then say why the disaster team didn't do their job? I really cannot understand what is the big force about the PM calling the day off to safe guard the people of the country yes nothing happened but did you all listen to what happen to countries that was further away from the storm? We was covered by God that why we didn't have any damage.
Just me August 27, 2012
The PM need to stop acting as if DA is his toy..
This is what I cannot understand with Dominicans; I was looking at the t.v. yesterday on the Florida News. Bus system shut down, schools shut down, business places well boarded up, and that is long before they knew it was going to hit the Gulf Coast.
Mr. Achille Joseph, you like too much ro-ro tan. You never heard of the saying, "An ounce of prevention is better than a pound of cure?"
Tonight on the Toronto News broadcast, it was stated that Florida did not get the full brunt of the hurricane. They somewhat escaped. I am certain that no one in Florida are complaining about it and having taken the day off. Safety first which some Dominicans, those who made the fuss over the day off cannot comprehend.
Its ok to call a day off in the interest of safety. However, we all know Dcans like their days off but also want to get paid when that "DAY OFF" is officially sanctioned by the PM. And I agree with them because while a lost day of wages mean nothing to the ministers and a lucky few, the majority of Dcans are barely breaking even at the end of the month. So every penny counts. Now some poor baby have to go without enough pampers because of the PM's gaffe.
The PM erred in that he should have cautioned /advised his "subjects" on being vigilant and exercise extra precautions while asking employers to "KINDLY CONSIDER" all related absences as excused absences taking into consideration the existing circumstances. "IF" he had done that, we would not be having this discussion now. But Skerro as usual like too much VOGUE and BRAVODO and as such we the people are always left to suck salt which his handlers scramble to clean up after him. Dcans never envisioned that they would actually be lead to the slaughter and pay the butcher's fee as part of the NEXT LEVEL. How disappointing!
Assertive, NOT Agressive!
Mr. Joseph, i do not always agree with you, but on this occasion I could not concur more. It is time that we learn to do things CORRECTLY in this little paradise that we call home.I am sure the PM knew he does NOT have the authority to so do, yet he did. Similar occurencies took place when Mamo, Edison and Roosie (Douglas) and their parties won the general elections and this must END now. We have to do things according to law or we will slowly yet surely destroy all that our ancestors worked for. It's like the PM not wanting to provide members of Parliament with the resignation letter of the President.
I really hope that we can do things PROPERLY.


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Burns, J. E. (2011), Using psychokinesis to explore the nature of quantum randomness. In D.P. Sheehan (Ed.), Quantum Retrocausation: Theory and Experiment (pp. 279-290). Melville, NY: AIP Conference Proceedings.
Abstract: In retrocausation different causal events can produce different successor events, yet a successor event reflecting a particular cause occurs before the causal event does. It is sometimes proposed that the successor event is determined by propagation of the causal effect backwards in time via the dynamical equations governing the events. However, because dynamical equations are time reversible, the evolution of the system is not subject to change. Therefore, the backward propagation hypothesis implies that what may have seemed to be an arbitrary selection of a causal factor was in reality predetermined.
Yet quantum randomness can be used to determine the causal factor, and a quantum random event is ordinarily thought of as being arbitrarily generated. So we must ask, when quantum random events occur, are they arbitrary (subject to their probabilistic constraints) or are they predetermined?
Because psychokinesis (PK) can act on quantum random events, it can be used as a probe to explore questions such as the above. It is found that if quantum random events are predetermined (aside from the action of PK), certain types of experimental design can show enhanced PK through the use of precognition. Actual experiments are examined and compared, and most of those for which the design is especially suitable for showing this effect had unusually low p values for the number of trials. It is concluded that either the experimenter produced a remarkably strong experimenter effect or quantum random events are predetermined, thereby enabling enhanced PK in suitable experimental designs.
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Weather Academics Belt Loop
Belt Loop Requirements
Complete these three requirements:
- Make a poster that shows and explains the water cycle.
- Set up a simple weather station to record rainfall, temperature, air pressure, or evaporation for one week.
- Watch the weather forecast on a local television station.
Academics Pin Requirements
Earn the Weather belt loop, and complete five of the following requirements:
- Define the following terms: weather, humidity, precipitation, temperature, and wind.
- Explain how clouds are made. Describe the different kinds of clouds-stratus, cumulus, cumulonimbus, and cirrus-and what kind of weather can be associated with these cloud types.
- Describe the climate in your state. Compare its climate with that in another state.
- Describe a potentially dangerous weather condition in your community. Discuss safety precautions and procedures for dealing with this condition.
- Define what is meant by acid rain. Explain the greenhouse effect.
- Talk to a meteorologist about his or her job. Learn about careers in meteorology.
- Make a weather map of your state or country, using several weather symbols.
- Explain the differences between tornadoes and hurricanes.
- Make a simple weather vane. Make a list of other weather instruments and describe what they do.
- Explain how weather can affect agriculture and the growing of food.
- Make a report to your den or family on a book about weather.
- Explain how rainbows are formed and then draw and color a rainbow.
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- Earning the Cub Scout Weather Belt Loop while a Webelos Scout is requirement 13 of the Webelos Scientist Activity Badge.
- Details on earning a Cub Scout Sports or Academic pin or belt loop multiple times
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- Elective 2e. could be met while completing Cub Scout Weather Pin requirement 2
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Libertarians would stand by and watch someone die rather than help someone caught in a bad spot. I suppose if someone gets a flat tire and they need a jack you'd laugh and drive off?
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@Jim Too bad we are not all rationalists. I really wish we all were.
There are too many people in this country and world that don't give a shit about others. That will not change as long as people are divided by some imaginary boundaries.
@Gaytor: "I'd like to ask where have we ever seen a Libertarian country succeed?"
Somalia, Burkina Faso, Niger, Burundi, etc. Great countries virtually without any government interference in the economy, no regulation, and almost noone pays taxes! You can buy anything at dirt cheap prices, once you arrive you can just pay your way through immigration with a 20, then there's nice people waiting for you with your suitcases for only a buck, and then guide you to one of the many local taxies which will take you anywhere for a few bucks. They don't even have a Fed printing money! True Libertarian heavens on Earth. ;)
@Unseen: "I just find it revolting that so many people are okay with a system that keeps their own premiums down by making sure other people get no significant health care at all."
That argument is not quite true, reality is even worse. Hospitals are required to take in uninsured and place them in a stable condition. I believe this program was signed into law by Reagan. Of course, the issue is that this current quasi-socialized system raise the average insurance rate by some $1100 annually per household without providing much benefit to society... The worst of both worlds.
@Brady: "As I believe, our ancestors stayed in relatively small groups and took care of each other."
They also died in droves by disease and continual warfare while under dictatorial leadership. Arguments from antiquity aren't immediately applicable to the current world.
"This will never happen on a large scale."
Because..? There is such a thing as development, which means we are decreasingly slaves of our biology and can create functioning programs on a large scale. Unfortunately, this also applies to warfare...
"it is in our best interest to let those with hereditary diseases die early or prevent offspring."
That's not Darwin, that is social darwinism.
"So unless all the studies on human behavior, evolutionary psychology, and behavior economics that I have read are wrong"
I presume they are not, but I don't think you should jump into reading studies before having covered the introductory stuff.
I found this article interesting... In 2008, Paul's campaign adviser manager died of pneumonia when he was without insurance and left his family with about $400k in expenses.
@Arcus: I think we might disagree on what defines "great countries"... Here's a little comic take on Somalian libertarianism that sums it up pretty well for me.
You're kidding, right? Somalia, Burkina Faso, Niger, Burundi are successful? Last I looked in the news, there are armed gangs killing anyone they don't like and robbing anyone with something to rob. Healthcare is nonexistent, so if you get sick, you either leave the country for somewhere more fortunate and less "successful," or you die. If you consider these as triumphs of Libertarianism, then you've proven it to be a failed philosophy.
@arcus I really agree, the past is not a true indicator of future progress, but human nature is not a constant in any developmental equation."This will never happen on a large scale.", might be a bit exaggerated with the "never" because I am no visionary. I should have said, "never in our generation". We might make progress but only at the expense of others. Religion has been trying to change our human nature for thousands of years. I still don't see the positive results and I very much doubt the animals within will ever be eliminated.
@Artor and @Phil Do you agree that indigenous tribes of the Amazon and Africa need to be left alone? They are functioning societies without western influence. Just because your political religion preaches that everyone deserves health care is not a fact. Many functioning societies exist happily without western influence. So, let's not go on a religious missionary to push our ideology on more people that function without our ideals. Your projecting your idea of "perfect" and "should be" on another society. I am sorry but that stinks of a new religion.
Ability is not Responsibility. The government is able to provide free health care to all Americans, they are also able to send a man to the moon. They also have the ability to provide health care to the entire world and are able to destroy all human life too. It is irresponsible for government to move beyond its functions of protecting our rights. We have a right to life, and this "person" exercised their right of keeping their property (money) in the gamble of not choosing to protect their life in the form of receiving health care. Government should respect that choice but should also respect any individual(s) that wish to give a loving hand to help the individual.
And besides that point, health care does not protect life. It can only postpone death.
I find it extremely interesting that everyone here believes in the sciences but at the same time many believe that humanity, good will, love, fair justice, and all that kumbaya nonsense will prevail. Sounds like a new religion forming among atheists.
When I talk about caring for others, what deity have I proposed? When I talk about making sure that others don't unnecessarily die, how does that harm science? Caring for others isn't about a religion. Caring for other is natural. Helping your neighbor is a natural progression in a society. It's socially evolutionary, especially since we've made leaps in the last 100 years to be interconnected. We've went from newspapers and books that took days, weeks and or months to get to the masses to radio and television that got it to us quickly to today with the internet where we get the information sometimes a day or two before the news can compile it and get it out.
This wanting to care for one another is nothing new. FDR, elected 4 times, wanted a 2nd Bill of Rights but simply died too early. John Adams signed the "Act for the Relief of Sick and Disabled Seamen" which required a healthcare purchase mandate to build government owned hospitals. None of this is new. Caring for your neighbor has a long history in the US. It's been the recent revisionists that would like to claim that we are a purely small government/capitalist only country.
The notion that by default, atheists must not care for one another is a view of the world that lacks humanity. Life is not emotionless because I don't see a god in my creation. If you have another point, I've missed it. More to the healthcare point and science. One program leads to higher costs, higher infant mortality, a 10% denial of care, overall costs 30 to 50% higher... don't you want to know what that other program is? If not, which one of us is not using science?
"If those employees contribute something to society, and if they contribute something to their employers, does it not seem reasonable that they can at least secure a basic level of health care provisions -- something that affects productivity -- without incurring debt?"
I agree and disagree. I agree in the sense that this is a good thought for making personal decisions. Either for one deciding to purchase health care, or for an employer to do the same. And whatever choice one makes, as long as it does not trample on the rights of others I can respect.
I disagree with that quote when it comes to making public (opt in or die) policy. It sounds extreme but any time you give government power over our personal choice we are giving them the power to pull a gun on us if we don't comply. Ideals are great, enforcing them is disrespectful and poor judgement.
Ideals need to be left to personal decision not government enforcement. The problem with the idea that government should enforce ideals leads to the next fallacy. People under the stewardship of the any government don't have the same ideals and certainly not the same priorities when it comes to said ideals. Forcing this ideal of mandated health care gives the government authority to favor health care choice over personal property. Let the people decide, and if enough people think that health care should be provided freely you are welcome to start a charity to do so. You don't need the government to force its people to pay for other people's personal decisions.
Anonymous, your position ignores that currently many people cannot afford care. So they don't have a choice. Any choice. Some people have pre-existing conditions so not only do they not have any choice, but they can't lose or quit their jobs under threat of death due to the pre-existing condition. You are effectively pitting the choice of some to not spend money versus the unmitigated death of others.
And what choice are you really defending? Currently it's insurers whom are pulling the trigger on who lives or dies. Currently it's insurers whom have your fears in their hands and the exercise that power with profit as their motive. So I'm confused as to what it is that you are afraid of. Under a Bismarck system, you would have the ability to choose any doctor. We would all pay less. We would all have equal care. Our paying for others would be mitigated by paying less. 5 to 8% of GDP less.


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I will use my judgement in the end to select a few for a poll. I will likely exclude books that seem too similar to Wicked, so likely something outside of the Fantasy realm this time. But, then if it's a really tremendous fantasy book I may consider it, so feel free to share any books you'd like.


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Thanks for joining us this Friday! We've had lots of new faces around here on Fridays, perusing and linking up recipes. Just a reminder that the purpose of this linky is to showcase recipes by other bloggers that you have not made yet. These recipes have made your to-try list, just like these have made mine.
This week, my recipes are all finds related to Crockpot Chicken Week! Recipes that you can make using leftover chicken.
Crockpot Cheesy Chicken Spaghetti – Although the recipe uses many canned and processed items, the recipe is solid. Pre-cooked chicken (leftover), cream soups (see my recipes here), tomatoes with green chilies, mushrooms, bell peppers, pasta and cheese (I'd do homemade cheese sauce rather than Velveeta)… yum, yum!
Source: livingachangedlife.blogspot.com via Finding Joy In My Kitchen on Pinterest
Crockpot Chicken Tortilla Soup – While the recipe calls for chicken breast (raw), you can easily use pre-cooked chicken in this recipe. This will ultimately reduce the needed cooking time in the crockpot, but cooking extra won't hurt anything.
Source: tablefortwoblog.com via Finding Joy In My Kitchen on Pinterest
Crockpot Chicken Taco Soup – all that amazing flavor with a hint of leftover chicken. Love this recipe; reminds me of one a friend made for Frog Prince and I when we shared dinner together years and years ago!
Source: thecomfortofcooking.com via Finding Joy In My Kitchen on Pinterest
Crockpot Chicken & Beans – An easy meal, filled with extra protein from the beans. Original recipe calls for uncooked chicken, but just use leftover chicken and cook for 2 fewer hours, if desired. Looks tasty.
Source: momswithcrockpots.com viaFinding Joy In My Kitchen on Pinterest
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Wednesday, April 6, 2011
Double Chocolate Cupcakes & Award
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Congrats with your awards. These cupcakes look so delicious and moist. One wouldn't be enough for me.ReplyDelete
i have the same book too (: but i've not tried any recipe from it yet. looking at your lovely bakes, is tempting me to bake it now and utilise that book :DReplyDelete
congratulations! your cupcakes look absolutely moist and soft...full of chocolatey goodness :)ReplyDelete
My kids and hubby sure love this cupcakes, must make for them soon. Thanks for sharing.ReplyDelete
Thank you! Yeah 1 wouldn't be enough for me too..heehee!
The Sweetylicious,
You should start scratching from this book..haha! I've got it 10 years ago but not all recipes tried though..;p
Thank you, the cakes indeed very moist and soft, but quite fattening with all the chocolates there..;p
If they like chocolates, then this must be the right recipe. Cheryl said very nice and she loves it..:)
hi reese,ReplyDelete
i'm follow your follow...nice blog actually...
So good that you manage to meet up with a friend that you've not seen for such a long time. :)BTW, these muffins look super tempting! Gotta go make some for myself to find out how yummy then. :PReplyDelete
~ hani, welcome to my blog..:)ReplyDelete
~ Bee Bee, welcome back! You'll love thse muffins..:) Yeah, I got to meet my friend at Midvalley last weekend, and its been a decade since we met but too bad we have only 2 hours to chat..;p
- AnonymousApril 11, 2011 at 8:36 PM
oh my! the cupcakes look so inviting! must be real soft and moist like you'd said, but without the heft and density, owing to the clever use of canola oil in place of butter or margarine. well done Reese!ReplyDelete
Thank you, travellingfoodies...:) This muffins becomes my family's favourite since. And I'm so glad that they were so well recieved by all my friends...:DReplyDelete


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TUSCALOOSA | Josh Ethridge graduated from Brookwood High School a year ago. But in January, he returned to the high school to join seven high school seniors in a new class — a German-approved apprenticeship training — the kind that gives German teens the skills to work for a specific German company upon graduation.
TUSCALOOSA | Josh Ethridge graduated from Brookwood High School a year ago. But in January, he returned to the high school to join seven high school seniors in a new class — a German-approved apprenticeship training — the kind that gives German teens the skills to work for a specific German company upon graduation.
Such a program had not been offered before in Alabama.
In this case, the class was set up at the behest of BLG Logistics Inc., a subsidiary of Bremen, Germany, -based BLG Logistics Group.
BLG Logistics in Vance serves Mercedes-Benz U.S. International. It handles the automobile parts used to build the luxury cars and the shipping of the finished vehicles.
Ethridge had gotten a job working at a local warehouse after graduating in 2012. It was a job, but not a career, so he said he welcomed the chance to join Brookwood High's logistics training, which offered the opportunity for a better job.
"I enjoyed it and got to see how much there is to logistics and how important good team work is in logistics," he said. "I didn't know how much logistics was involved in places like BLG and Mercedes."
Finding qualified workers to fill the increasingly sophisticated jobs in West Alabama's expanding auto industry is a concern for the industry's employers.
Mercedes and other manufacturers have used training programs at Shelton State Community College and other community colleges for years to train people interested in working for them.
But BLG is the first to embrace the German-style apprenticeship training class in a local high school.
On Wednesday, the eight students in the first class were honored by BLG executives, including BLG Logistics Group's president and chairman Detthold Aden, several of the company's board members and the German American Chamber of Commerce.
And on Thursday, Ethridge became a full-time employee at BLG.
The other seven students in the apprenticeship program will graduate from Brookwood High on Friday, and three days later on May 20, they, too, will become full-time employees at BLG.
At a time when many high school and college graduates are fretting about finding their first jobs, the eight Brookwood students are starting a career in logistics.
"This is a model that could be used in other places," said Aden, who flew in from Germany for the ceremony at the NorthRiver Yacht Club. "But to do so, you need a high school, a mayor and a government" to work with.
That partnership came about almost by accident. It started more than a year ago during a conversation between Vance Mayor Keith Mahaffey and Kirk Atkinson, business development manager for BLG Logistics Inc..
Atkinson told Mahaffey that his company needed qualified workers to handle the new jobs being created by the �area's expanding auto industry. He noted that in Germany, industries begin training teenagers in apprenticeship programs incorporated in the high school curriculum. Mahaffey suggested BLG do the same here. The mayor called Brookwood High Principal Laura McBride to set up a meeting.
McBride liked the idea but said the school had no one to offer the specialized training and no money to pay for it.
If funding and an instructor could be secured, the program with its promise of a job upon graduation would be worth trying, she said.
The Tuscaloosa County Commission agreed put up some money for the class, and BLG recruited Rolf Benglan, who had 18 years of technical experience in both the German military logistics and private industry logistics to teach the students.
Benglan arrived in Tuscaloosa in November and began teaching the students in January. The students spent 10 hours per week in the logistics training program. On Mondays, Tuesdays and Wednesdays, they had classroom training in logistics theory from 1:30 to 2:45 p.m. at the high school. Then they went to the BLG Logistics facility for hands-on learning until 5 p.m.
It was there they learned about the handling parts for Mercedes vehicles. The parts arrive at the warehouse and must be packaged for the particular vehicle that will be made. The package then has to reach the auto assembly line in the sequence in which they are needed.
Mercedes vehicles are customized to customer specifications so each car on the assembly line will have its own set of customized components. A missed item or the wrong set screws could cause problems and slow production at the Mercedes factory.
"I believe in hands-on training," Benglan said. "It is important to learn theory first in the classroom and then put that to work. There's no better way to do that hands-on than in the logistics center."
There was no room for goofing off, he said. The students had to learn about health and safety in the workplace along with the logistics training.
And he challenged the students to think and resolve problems that occurred in the warehouse, telling them that they would need to do so when working in logistics.
Benglan said the students performed well. On the final exams, Ethridge scored 95 percent. Another student got a 90 percent, and the rest averaged 80 percent. All qualified to be hired full-time at BLG, he said, and all will have the opportunity to advance further in a logistics career if they choose.
"The goal is to achieve full certification by the German Chamber of Commerce in Germany so that students will have the opportunity to train and work there as well," he said.
"Global expertise is nowadays more and more important for the business world, and we would like to use this opportunity to expand the BLG and Alabama's workforce."
McBride, Brookwood High's principal, said the school is working to get money for the class for the next school year and wants to offer a full-year of logistics apprenticeship training program.
"We already have students applying and asking how to get into the program," she said.
The goal is to have 16 to 20 students start a full year of the logistics apprenticeship training when school resumes in August. If they successfully complete the training, they too will have a job waiting for them at BLG upon graduation.
McBride, who has been an educator for 29 years, said she took pride in seeing the eight students succeed in what started as an experimental program.
"I have seen them grow and mature as they prepared to graduate. I am so proud of them. You could just see their self-confidence grow."
One of the students, James Dorrity, said he had earlier left school after he had some problems but came back after McBride called him and persuaded him to try the program.
"She said 'What do you plan to do after high school?' " he said.
Unsure of his future and never having heard about logistics, Dorrity decided to try the program.
"After I got through I had learned so much. I even learned about the history of logistics and about Germany," he said, noting the program helped convince him to finish high school.


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MACON, Ga. - Belmont's strong performance at the Greater Louisville Cross Country Classic keeps the men atop the Coaches' Cross Country poll by five points. Belmont's women runners earned a sixth-place finish at South Dakota State Classic to continue to hold on to the top spot.
Senior Caleb Swartz was the highest Bruin finisher at the Greater Louisville Cross Country Classic, placing 26th out of 294 runners with a time of 24:38.19. Sophomore Clay Hannah finished 44th with a time of 25:00.05 and sophomore Hillary Cheruiyot just missed finishing in the top-50, running a time of 25:06.28 to place 51st.
The men's poll remained unchanged for the top six spots with Kennesaw State, UNF, Campbell and Lipscomb following Belmont and ETSU. FGCU and USC Upstate split apart from a tie in the prior poll to be seventh and eighth respectively followed by Mercer, Stetson and Jacksonville. The Belmont women's team finished sixth at SDSU Classic and Brittany Thune placed 12th out of 161 racers. For her efforts, Thune was named the Atlantic Sun Runner of the Week on October 8.
Jacksonville's women's team saw a one-point bump from 103 to 104 keeping Kennesaw State in the third spot in the poll. The Dolphins have not run since they earned first at the Mercer RunFit Sports Invitational. The Owls' Mackenzie Howe helped propel Kennesaw State to a ninth place finish out of 44 teams in the Walt Disney World Cross Country Classic in Orlando, Fla.
After the top three, UNF took the fourth spot in this week's rankings. USC Upstate and Lipscomb swapped places for fifth and sixth. The Camels own the seventh spot followed by ETSU, Mercer, FGCU and Stetson. ETSU and Mercer swapped the eighth and ninth positions from the last poll.
FGCU, Jacksonville and Stetson run at the Hatter Invitational, and Campbell, ETSU and USC Upstate will compete at the Blue Ridge Open in Boone, N.C., all on Friday. On Saturday, Mercer partakes at the Jacksonville Invitational, while Lipscomb heads to the Chili Pepper Invite. Members from Belmont, ETSU and USC Upstate will try their speed at the NCAA Pre-nationals race in Indiana.
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