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Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 12:54 pm
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Tell you what will save a lot of time & trouble if towing --- 12' of downhaul, tucked in a harness pocket or wherever you can stash it. Mine is tied onto my harness, which doesn't have a pocket. Universal of the tow-ee, front footstrap of the tow-er. Sometimes you can use the line to fix whatever's broken, I've tied broken booms back together good enough to get to shore, you can replace any broken lines (duh!) etc..
Last time I broke a mast I didn't have my line with me ('cos I'm stupid), and my friend Dan and I took turns using one or more of the techniques described here to get me back to shore, wore us both out, would have been much easier with a towline.
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Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 1:49 pm
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The sailor needs to hold on to the tow line if possible so that you can control the instability and release when needed, esp. on a long tow.
The load on the sail is not a lot different than loaning your gear to a guy much bigger than you to butt drag around.
You can operate the sail much as normal during a butt drag.
To raise it higher you scrunch in closer to the rig. If you have tried to butt drag any distance this will be clear to you.
If you spend five minutes trying his method next time you are out all doubts will be eased.
If I can find a waterproof camera and a jetski maybe I will try to make my first you tube.
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Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 2:39 pm
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Not sure how the sailor can hold the tow line. In his teeth? My two hands are occupied holding onto my booms, usually hooked in, STANDING UP, sloggin slow. Buttdragging takes you a bit downwind of your original position.
You cannot have taut lines atop your board, as you need to put your feet somewhere it won't get wrapped or pinned.
Having the broken down sailor grab your harness is unrealistic. How can you set up a waterstart if he's holding on to you?
Agree you need a emergency release. Draggie holding your rear straps, to eject him, just lower your boom whacking his hand, if he won't let go to you command. He always let's go with that boomslap across his wrist.
Line is nice, but makes ejection harder to control.
Butt dragging for a mile, at say....2 mph, would be a drag. Better to stand up, slog, and tell war stories to each other.
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Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 2:48 pm
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This is all too complicated. Let em swim.
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Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 2:55 pm
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For a viewpoint on long distance tows standing I refer you to the original OP since he and I have have done them with the same experience.
The reason we have been involved in so many rescues is because we have operated the sailing center in Belize for more than twenty years, among big waves and coral everywhere.
We were involved in nearly every rescue in the country.
The most usual reasons for breakdowns with us is broken fins, with broken masts from touching the bottom during a Maytag as second.
I hold the Belize record for being rescued with eleven, add the time last fall in Maui when my sail cap broke and I got a tow from the lifeguards from about mile out.
I was lucky. Lifeguards at Kanaha sometimes make you abandon your rig, which I have done three times in Belize. In helio pickups in Maui they make you leave the board as well.
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Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:41 pm
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I was towed once after breaking a u-joint under the GG bridge. Given his numerous heroics, it could have been Zirtateb. Because the ebb was taking me out at a good clip, I ditched my rig to make headway more quickly. A thousand dollars seems pretty immaterial when you are outside the gate with nobody in sight. Anyway, a guy came along and had me grab his back footstrap as he slogged by me. If I remember correctly, the trick was to keep my board from banging his. I do recall, however, that holding on to the footstrap, even without the drag of my rig, was no easy task. The guy towing me seemed fine.
One other lesson I learned was that it is not easy to paddle a windsurf board when waves are coming from the side, which would be the case for many/most Crissy breakdowns. It is far easier to paddle when waves are coming from behind, like at Stinson.
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Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 4:07 pm
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Prolly not me, since I haven't sailed Crissy since the mid '90's.
Might be SteveYong, a dimunitive Chinese guy, really talkative.
Don't really believe anyone would bother to buttdrag for a mile.
Ejecting just the sail is the most prudent call, as the mast can be stuffed inside your front straps, the base across the rear straps, and the booms towed by the outhaul line, or uphaul line.
Sailing without a fin, directly across the wind, is super easy. Sailing downwind without a fin is a launch fest. Sailing upwind without a fin is not possible.
Always took about 1/2 my day's sailing away when I towed someone in, especially from longer than 1/2 mile. Longer is not always more taxing, as you learn the technique to rest, stay hooked in, and slogging, conserving energy.
Attachment method.... I always approach from upwind, waterstart position butt dragging, swing by, have broken down sailor grab my rear strap, ONE try before I sail away for 5 minutes. If they don't listen to my instructions, I ALWAYS sail away for a few jumps and jibes, then come back. If they still don't listen, I leave. Obviously, if they're shellshocked, I'll hang around and give them a last chance. I've punched guys, slapped guys in the face, and plenty of times yelled at guys who wouldn't respond to my instructions.
This is not a forum for group hugs, and I'm not out to make you feel good.
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Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 5:32 pm
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Butt drags are a skill like any other. We sailed in the eighties and with those baggy no batten sails you could easily get in trouble if the wind went over 35 knots and you were on a 7.0.
Even with the door open the sail would rip out of your hands in the gusts.
This was a big deal on the 18 mile crossing to the next island. Variations on butt drags were the only way home through the coral.
If you relax your arms and rely on your harness you can do it for hours, resting as needed. The first to arrive sent the boat for the others.
As Lee pointed out, longer was not always more taxing, if your technique was adequate and the water was warm.
Fastest guy was Greg who would lay on his back on the 12 ft boards we used, with his head on the tail and the boom on his chest. He could steer as long as it was downwind by moving the boom left to right.
Your arms get tired pushing up on the boom to catch wind and take the weight off your chest. It helped to cross your arms on your chest to give the boom a place to rest not right on your chest.
Attitude was important. There were no other options out in the remote blue far away from a little island a mile long.
Lee sorry I am not speaking clearly. The sailor being rescued is the one who should hold on to the rescue line which is connected to the harness lines.
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Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 1:58 pm
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zirtaeb wrote:
Having the broken down sailor grab your harness is unrealistic. How can you set up a waterstart if he's holding on to you?
Why waterstart? Who wants to put his body in the power chain when hardware can carry the whole load. As we've discussed before (SEARCH on key words tower towee), The towee de-rigs and grabs the tower's harness (that handle on my kite harness chosen for that purpose works great), the tower gets in the waterstart position
hooked in
, and the two of them broad reach into the sunset, chatting to avoid boredom. The only human effort is in the forearm hanging onto the harness. (Hell, SOMEBODY has to do a little work, and it needn't be the hero pulling off the rescue.)
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Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 2:02 pm
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zirtaeb wrote:
Don't really believe anyone would bother to buttdrag for a mile.
Why not? It's effortless, even relaxing, to both parties, if the towee de-rigs to cut drag.
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Talk:Virtual user mail system with Postfix, Dovecot and Roundcube
Hey there, hopefully there are no problems while working down the guide. If there are, feel free to write them down here and I will come to them! However, please *do* try to correct any issues you find in the guide yourself if you can. --Svenstaro 12:39, 19 September 2010 (EDT)
Expanded the Database section with the code needed to create a rudimentary db and dba for pfadmin to work on and removed the "Needs expansion" banner. --Justforgetme (talk) 12:02, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
KingX did exactly the updates I had in mind to do tonight, great job. Now the SQL queries will actually work out of the box for $domain/$user@$domain maildirs/mailschemes (which is what almost everyone wants to use afaik). Lets hope this doesn't lock down the how to too much. --Justforgetme (talk) 22:28, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
Hey awesome!! I am glad I am not the only one looking at this page. :) I am planning on expanding the postfixadmin and roundcubemail section. Just want to touch base on one thing, so postfixadmin and postfix share the same db right? in this case postfix_db? and Roundcube has its own db. The original author mentioned that "we will use postfixadmin to fill the tables later", but never really clarified or mentioned how... or I missed it. I think that can be one thing that should be clarified also.--KingX (talk) 22:51, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
postfixadmin and roundcube have different databases. Both are populated via the http GUI and hold the meta configuration. For example roundcube will hold user identities (name, sig), searches, contacts, contactgroups (aka mail lists), a dictioary etc. Most of these are only populated when you use the Http interface, since roundcube doesn't actually come into contact with the mailboxes that postfix(and dovecot) uses. The postfix db, in my installations usually just called postfix - no need for extra designation since you already know it is a DB - holds more interesting data since there you will find routing paths (what mailbox each alias maps to), usage information (like quotas), vacation data, hashed login credentials etc.. I don't think it makes sense to drill deeper into that topic inside the tutorial since even the admin wont be much in touch with those dbs and debugging roundcube and dovecot (&pfadmin) issues would really call for a separate document. What are You interested in adding? --Justforgetme (talk) 16:33, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
Ok yeh I have a perfectly working mailserver now. :) I was just going to expand the roundcube and postfixadmin section a little, as now roundcube is available in official repo so need to grab the source manually. And just add some hints for people trying to configure postfixadmin. --KingX (talk) 22:51, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
... I have undone the modification of user Gesh. The relay_domains variable in this specific postfix setup should only be relevant as an additional filter since the MT authentication/authorization is done via the database. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think this is necessary in case of dynamic multi domain hosting. The resulting server does not operate as an open relay unless you add a tld wildcard for every tld you want to OR for in the db ;-) --Justforgetme (talk) 15:49, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
Dovecot configuration suggests setting the certs 0444 for the .crt and 0400 for the .key, but the wiki suggests 0644 and 0600, respectively. Personally, I do not see why anyone should have write permissions on the certs, esp. since they're not meant to be modified. Suggestions? --Gesh (talk) 23:30, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
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Yeah there probably isn't anything wrong with making them read-only. --Svenstaro (talk) 00:23, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
Hey there! Excellent tutorial, it almost worked like a charm! I had some problems with dovecot and roundcube. I'm not sure if they are sufficiently general to be added on the main tutorial, but I wanted to discuss them here:
- Dovecot Greeting. I had to place a Dovecot greeting in /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf. I included "login_greeting = Dovecot ready for action."
- Instead of using TLS for IMAP in Roundcube I had to configure SSL. In particular, I had to change this "$rcmail_config['default_host'] = 'ssl://localhost/';" on Roundcube main.inc.php.
- I missed a comment on the 'username_domain' option in the configuration. As it was not mentioned in the tutorial I wrongly assumed that Dovecot allows login with only the username. But then I couldn't login from Roundcube using my username. Adding the "$rcmail_config['username_domain'] = 'mydomain.net';" option in Roundcube main.inc.php.
Thanks for the tutorial, I think it is pretty straightforward for a complex task a setting up the mail server. Best regards! --Es0x279e (talk) 10:12, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
Hi! I cannot for the life of me get roundcube to work. It fails when I try to do the login to the IMAP server during installation. I get: "Connecting to tls://localhost/... IMAP connect: NOT OK(Login failed for [edited] from [edited]. Empty startup greeting (localhost:993))" I've tried changing it to ssl:// and without ssl:// or tls:// but for some reason it just does not work and I do not know where to go from here. Help would be greatly greatly appreciated. --Pei (talk) 04:20, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
Undid the last contribution of (Mehtab) because listening interfaces should beimplementation speciffic for this Postfix installation. If anybody disagrees let me know. Justforgetme (talk) 06:41, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
Expanded the Roundcube section and added some info for SpamAssassin and added the tip to remove "Received header". Had to do a bit of digging today to set it up, figured I add it here so it will be helpful. KingX (talk) 02:55, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
Thank you!, the best tutorial I found, just want to point out some problems I had during the installation.
A) If vmail id/gid != 5000, you may have dovecot-sql.conf correct, but postfix still complains for db access. Better listen to Svenstaro from the begining.
B) Roundcube installer: DO NOT TRUST IT!.
main.inc.php ,
$rcmail_config['default_host'] = 'ssl://localhost';
If you use tls for IMAP, it will not work and you will get nightmares with the "STARTTLS command first" error. (roundcube tries to use ssl anyway)
You can use tls for the SMTP server thoug, but also keep the next lines like this:
$rcmail_config['smtp_server'] = 'tls://localhost'; $rcmail_config['smtp_port'] = 587; $rcmail_config['smtp_user'] = '%u'; $rcmail_config['smtp_pass'] = '%p';
If you use ssl, you also have to allow ssl connections. Change 'encrypt' for 'may' in your master.cf file, or you will have those nightmares again:
-o smtpd_tls_security_level=encrypt
C) mysql.so and imap.so must be enabled (/etc/php/php.ini)
D) php.conf: You can create aliases for roundcube and postfixAdmin folders, so you don't bulk your /srv/http/ directory
E) Your hostname have to include your domain name:
lupus@ulula:~$ hostname myHostName.mysite.org
F) Bloking port 25 is a common practice for ISP's. This port is where all incoming mail is delivered, so you will not be able get your mail from the outside world. Don't panic (I did), you need a MX DNS server with port fordwarding (or convice your isp that blocking the smtp port is for loosers). This site offers the service for free, good enough to play around: [1]
Edit your master.cf file to something like this
smtp inet n - n - - smtpd 26 inet n - n - - smtpd submission inet n - n - - smtpd
Last word of advice: DO NOT mix virtual server mail with non virtual server mail configuration! --dcgasca (talk) 04:43, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
Thanks everyone for that wiki entry which helped me a lot. I also added Mailfiltering with Dovecot / Sieve after running Spamassassin which runs fine here. --ewigkeit (talk) 18:36, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
Ok, so apparently I am too stupid to figure this out. I am trying to install PostfixAdmin with MariaDB, but I get this error. Any ideas? I tried searching the web, but nothing.
Running software: PHP version 5.5.4 Checking for dependencies: Magic Quotes: Disabled - OK Depends on: presence config.inc.php - OK Checking $CONF['configured'] - OK Error: There is no database support in your PHP setup To install MySQL 3.23 or 4.0 support on FreeBSD: % cd /usr/ports/databases/php5-mysql/ % make clean install - or with portupgrade - % portinstall php5-mysql To install MySQL 4.1 support on FreeBSD: % cd /usr/ports/databases/php5-mysqli/ % make clean install - or with portupgrade - % portinstall php5-mysqli To install PostgreSQL support on FreeBSD: % cd /usr/ports/databases/php5-pgsql/ % make clean install - or with portupgrade - % portinstall php5-pgsql Error: Can't connect to database Please edit the $CONF['database_*'] parameters in config.inc.php. DEBUG INFORMATION: MySQL 4.1 functions not available! (php5-mysqli installed?) database_type = 'mysqli' in config.inc.php, are you using a different database? Depends on: session - OK Depends on: pcre - OK Depends on: multibyte string - OK Warning: Depends on: IMAP functions - NOT FOUND To install IMAP support, install php5-imap Without IMAP support, you won't be able to create subfolders when creating mailboxes. Please fix the errors listed above.
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And the negligence, like a dip in a sidewalk, trips me up unawares, which is precisely why I can be just that: neglectful.
I'm first tripped up by my negligence when I notice fingernails. "Look, Mom," Ryan said this last negligence-round. "I can play a chord now."
He was practicing his guitar as I was putting a load of laundry into the machine (their laundry; I'd let it pile up so there was not a clean sock to be had, nothing to change into from their outgrown Spiderman and Batman PJs.)
I watched him hold down the guitar strings. In a perfect chord – with nails so long they'd be the envy of a girl, if nicely filed and shaped. And clean.
They were not clean.
Which was the next clue to my neglectfulness: I'd lost track of how many days it had been since they'd taken baths. Which must have been many for them to accumulate such filth, as you can't help but wonder how their nails could get so dirty in the first place; children these days rarely spend their time digging in the earth! digging their nails into branches if actually climbing a tree. Really, they use their thumbs mostly, pressing those little buttons on their game consoles.
But it's not just the nail negligence.
"Mommy, I'm hungry."
When did I last offer them a snack? When I finally do remember, it is too close to dinner time. When they are too hungry not to grab the Oreos.
So at dinner, instead of their broccoli (which they might not eat under ordinary UN-neglectful circumstances) at least they might have eaten the starchy white rice. Which at least allows for a few more paltry minerals than a cookie.
Back to the laundry. I did get it into the machine, but forgot to put it in the dryer so they spent Sunday in their PJs. These periods of negligence are actually not all that protracted. But it is my guilt that can make the few days seem prolonged. They can seem like "A thousand million hours," as my seven year old will say who still has little sense of real time.
I perhaps analyze too hard these periods of neglect and what they mean. That I never should have had children? Of course not. That something else might be tugging my attention away from my precious children? Quite possibly. As when I was forced to ignore the pleas of my hungry boys because I was on the phone with my mother trying to help her open a precooked chicken for her own dinner.
Here's the thing. After an hour, my mother did get the chicken open. And the boys did get fed, if only cheese-sticks, finally resorting to foraging in the refrigerator for themselves.
But at least "dinner" wasn't Oreos, as cheese-sticks have calcium! And are more nutritious than plain white rice! The laundry did get dry in time for clean clothes by Monday; nails got clipped; baths taken. Miraculously, the earth's rotation continues uninterrupted on its perfect axis.


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We are a software company based in Canada. We need a logo for our donation tracking software for private schools.
Our software is web-based, and it tracks donors, and their donations. Statements, tax receipts and other reports are produced.
We are targeting private schools which are funded by the parents of the kids who attend. We will expand this focus to other charitable organizations including churches in the future.
These private schools are not wealthy organizations. If you have visions of exclusive gated schools – this is not our target market.
The logo should capture our vision to provide a simple, consistent, well-thought-out, and trustworthy application for tracking member donations securely.
We are a professional, high energy and responsive organization and we want to capture that as well.
Descriptive words: modern, trustworthy, high-energy.
The logo should include the word Traxis.
Simple and Clean – Our UI is very simple and clean.
Professional – not a 'home brewed' solution
Would prefer the logo separate from the word traxis.
Logos that are stylized X's or T's aren't likely to be my favorites.
These people donating feel like a community - a group of like minded individuals who share a strong commitment to the charitable organization, school, or church. Capturing the element of community in the logo would be great.
Vector Based –The logo should be in scalable vector format.
Blend High Energy and Respectful
The donation tracker keeps track of financial information. It has to be secure, and trusted. But not boring like a bank!
This is our first time using 99designs. We picked the smallest project we have as first entry. We have reviewed other entries and have looked at the feedback you have provided. As a result we commit to providing ratings, and feedback in a timely fashion.
FYI, we will be launching the new site immediately after implementing this design. This app is live and being used by clients today.
I have not uploaded screen shots since we will rebrand based on the new logo.
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I'm new to this wiki, but I'm a long-time editor of UESPWiki. Is there a site policy regarding what deserves its own page? I came here thinking that there would be a page for every quest and was a little disappointed at the little amount of information given. What is the policy as far as how I would go about changing this? --GuildKnight 23:23, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
Update: OK, since this is a wiki, y'all can just delete it, but I wanted to give an example of what I would ideally like to do. Check out my latest edit. --GuildKnight 00:14, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
- Hi - and welcome to GTA Wiki. First thing to point out is that they're called missions, not quests. The RPG terminology is legitimate, but we don't use it in the GTA context. Secondly, yes missions definitely qualify for their own page - we just haven't been able to write up many mission pages yet, but we have a few as you can see in Category:Missions. What is currently on the Missions in GTA San Andreas page (and the same for each game) is a basic outline of each mission - these should all go on separate pages, with infoboxes, images, walkthroughs and transcriptions if possible.
- Thirdly, the naming conventions are just the full title, unless there's a clash in which case use one word in brackets to differentiate - so In The Beginning... should be the full title for that mission - you don't need to include the game's name or anything like that in the title, just put it in the first sentence (and in the infoboxes). However "In the beginning" is actually the title of the opening sequence of both San Andreas and Vice City, so we need to disambiguate: use In The Beginning (GTA VC) and In The Beginning (GTA SA). I'll fix that now (using some of your content), and show you what sort of thing we're looking for (at least for now, we always aim to improve). Note: use Category:Missions in GTA San Andreas and Template:Infobox mission. Thanks again - Gboyers (?) 02:01, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Should we add the Caligula's, Wang Autos' and Zero's missions?
I don't know how to edit anchors, but the "Las Venturas Missions" link at the start of the page doesn't work. --Samadriel 10:47, October 12, 2009 (UTC)
I've just fixed it. Thanks for noticing it.--Loadingue 13:54, October 12, 2009 (UTC)
I cant seem to edit the one at the top, but you should add, there is 105 mission's in total. because thats what i wanted to find out when i went to this page. --Deltoran 10:57, December 1, 2009 (UTC)


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Robert Sheppard is the author of the acclaimed dual novel Spiritus Mundi, in two parts, Spiritus Mundi the Novel, Book I and Spiritus Mundi the Romance, Book II. The acclaimed "global novel" features espionage-terror-political-religious thriller-action criss-crossing the globe involving MI6. the CIA and Chinese MSS Intelligence as well as a "People Power" campaign to establish a United Nations Parliamentary Assembly on the model of the European Parliament, with action moving from Beijing to London to Washington, Mexico City and Jerusalem while presenting a vast panorama of the contemporary international world, including compelling action and surreal adventures. It also contains the unfolding sexual, romantic and family relationships of many of its principal and secondary characters, and a significant dimension of spiritual searching through "The Varieties of Religious Experience." It contains also significant discussions of World Literature, including Chinese, Indian, Western and American literature, and like Joyce's Ulysses, it incorporates a vast array of stylistic approaches as the story unfolds. Book II, Spiritus Mundi the Romance, dilates the setting, scope and continuing action as a Romance of fantasy adventure where the protagonists, still following the original action of Book I, embark on a quest to the realms of Middle Earth and its Crystal Bead Game in search of the Silmaril Missing Seed Crystal and thence through a wormhole to a "Council of the Immortals" in an Amphitheater in the center of the Milky Way Galaxy to plead for the continuance of the human race in the face of threatened extinction from a nuclear World War III involving the confrontation and military showdown between NATO, China, Russia and Iran unfolded from the espionage events of Book I. The contemporary epic culminates with the first convening of the United Nations Parliamentary Assembly, a world-scale version of the European Parliament installed as a new organ of the United Nations.
Dr. Sheppard presently serves as a Professor of International Law and World Literature at Peking University, Northeastern University and the State Intellectual Property Office (SIPO) of China, and has previously served as a Professor of International Law and MBA professor at Tsinghua University, Renmin People's University, the China University of Politics and Law and at the Law Institute of the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences (CASS) in Beijing, China. Having studied Law, Comparative Literature and politics at the University of California, Berkeley (Ph. D.) Program in Comparative Literature), Northridge, Tübingen, Heidelberg, the People's College and San Francisco, (BA, MA, JD), he additionally has been active as professor of International Trade, Private International Law, and Public International Law from 1993 to 1998 at Xiamen University, Beijing Foreign Studies University, the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences Graduate School (CASS), and the China University of Political Science and Law in Beijing. Since 2000 he has served as a Senior Consultant to the United Nations Industrial Development Organization (UNIDO) in Beijing and has authored numerous papers on the democratic reform of the United Nations system.


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Here are responses to some of the off-line reactions to the previous blog.
"Annealing the Library" did not contain any statements about abandoning paper books (or journals). Each library needs to assess the value of paper for its community. This value assessment is different from one library to the next and from one collection to the next.
The main point of the post is that the end of paper acquisitions should NOT be the beginning of digital licenses. E-lending is not an adequate substitute for paper-based lending. E-lending is not a long-term investment. Libraries will not remain relevant institutions by being middlemen in digital-lending operations.
I neglected to concede the point that licensing digital content could be a temporary bandaid during the transition from paper to digital.
In the case of academic libraries, the bandaid of site licensing scholarly journals is long past its
due expiration date. It is time to phase out of the system.
If the University of California and California State University jointly announced a cancellation of all site licenses over the next three to five years, the impact would be felt immediately. The combination of the UC and Cal State systems is so big that publishers would need to take immediate and drastic actions. Some closed-access publishers would convert to open access. Others would start pricing their products appropriate for the individual-subscription market. Some publishers might not survive. Start-up companies would find a market primed to accept innovative models.
Unfortunately, most universities are too small to have this kind of immediate impact. This means that some coordinated action is necessary. This is not a boycott. There are no demands to be met. It is the creation of a new market for open-access information. It is entirely up to the publishers
themselves how to decide how to respond. There
is no need for negotiations. All it takes is the gradual cancellation
of all site licenses at a critical mass of institutions.
Annealing the Library does not contradict an earlier blog post, in which I expressed three Open Access Doubts. (1) I expressed disappointment in the quality of existing Open Access repositories. The Annealing proposal pumps a lot of capital into Open Access, which should improve quality. (2) I doubted the long-term effectiveness of institutional repositories in bringing down the total cost of access to scholarly information. Over time, the Annealing proposal eliminates duplication between institutional repositories and the scholarly literature, and it invests heavily into Open Access. (3) I wondered whether open-access journals are sufficiently incentivized to maintain quality over the long term. This doubt remains. Predatory open-access journals without discernible quality standards are popping up right and left. This is an alarming trend to serious open-access innovators. We urgently need a mechanism to identify and eliminate underperforming open-access journals.
If libraries cut off subsidies to pay-walled information, some information will be out of reach. By phasing in the proposed changes gradually, temporary disruption of access to some resources will be minimal. After the new policies take full effect, they will create many new beneficiaries, open up many existing information resources, and create new open resources.


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MJF necesitaba un nuevo diseño de logotipo y lanzó un concurso de diseño en 99designs.
Un ganador ha sido elegido entre 81 diseños de 15 diseñadores freelance.
The Mason Jar Foundation
My wife and I have decided to start a non-profit focused on supporting charities & causes that have deeply affected our lives (Multiple Sclerosis, Cancer, Alzheimers, Heart & Stroke. The concept will be similiar to Salesforce.com's 1/1/1 model. Where we dedicate a certain number of volunteer hours to organizations that we support, a certain amount of money through grants and donations, and a certain amount of product (Mason Jar "coin collector/piggy banks") to the communities in which we live, work & play. We have always been big in to philanthropy and voluneteering from when we first met in University and this a great opportunity to continue making an impact as a team.
Ages: 22 - as young as you feel
For the events we will be hosting, we will be targetting mainly people just entering the workforce (22yrs) to people who are young enough to play in a baseball tournament (50-60 yrs maybe older depending on who you speak with. We don't really want to put an age cap. The core values will be FUN, Integrity, Impactful, Low Adminsitrative costs, & Green (for saving the environment). There will be three pillars Events (Baseball/Golf tournaments Gala/Black Tie events, etc), Doers (a group of voluneteers that go to different outings, Donations (people that provide money for the causes).
I would like the logo to be a "Mason Jar" but I would like it to look sketched versus computer generated. Perhaps it could say The Mason (Picture of a Mason Jar with coins filled almost half way) Jar and on the jar itself it could say foundation and underneath the word foundation it reads ~since 2010~
Those are just my thoughts I am sure the experts know better!
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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Former CIA Milan station chief Robert Seldon Lady, who was convicted in Italy of kidnapping an Egyptian Muslim cleric and detained in Panama this week, returned to the United States on Friday, a State Department spokeswoman said.
The ex-spy was among 23 Americans sentenced in absentia by an Italian judge in 2009 for the abduction of the cleric. It was unclear whether any action would be taken against Lady, who was sentenced by Italy to a nine-year jail term, after his return to the United States.
Lady was originally sentenced in the first trial of its kind against "rendition" flights practiced by the administration of former U.S. President George W. Bush.
Italy's top court last year upheld the guilty verdict against Lady for the kidnapping of Hassan Mustafa Osama Nasr, who was snatched from a Milan street in 2003 and flown to Egypt for interrogation where he says he was tortured.
The rendition flights by the Bush administration have been condemned by human rights groups and prompted investigations into the procedure in countries allied to the United States.
Marie Harf, a State Department spokeswoman, said she had no details on whether Lady would be questioned by U.S. authorities, or whether the United States would cooperate with Italy on the case.
A Panamanian foreign ministry source said Lady was detained for 24 hours at the border with Costa Rica pending an extradition request from Italy.
He was let go because Panama does not have an extradition treaty with Italy and because documentation sent by Italian officials was "insufficient," the source said.
Italy expressed disappointment at Panama's actions, saying it had taken all the diplomatic steps seeking his temporary detention so that the extradition procedure could be started.
"I am astonished to observe that our request was disregarded without plausible explanation," Italian Justice Minister Anna Maria Cancellieri said in a statement.
In April, Italian President Giorgio Napolitano pardoned U.S. Air Force Colonel Joseph Romano, who had been among the Americans sentenced for the kidnapping.
Lady was quoted by Il Giornale newspaper in 2009 as saying: "I'm not guilty. I'm only responsible for carrying out orders that I received from my superiors."
Also in that interview, he lamented that he had wanted to stay in Italy but his retirement villa with vineyards had been seized to cover court costs.
"I love Italy. I had decided to live my life in Italy," the retired spy told the newspaper. "Instead I had to escape."
It was not clear why Lady was in Central America and risked arrest by crossing borders.
He was bounced around between two Central American countries as he attempted to leave Panama for Costa Rica at around 9:30 a.m. local time on Thursday, Costa Rican immigration department spokeswoman Andrea Quezada said.
He arrived alone at a Costa Rican border checkpoint near the southwestern town of Paso Canoas but was sent back to Panama when a red alert, indicating an Interpol arrest warrant, appeared in the checkpoint's database, she said.
Costa Rica does not treat red alerts as grounds for immediate arrest whereas Panama does, an Interpol official in Costa Rica said. As a result, Lady was denied entry to Costa Rica.
Due to confusion over the spelling of the ex-CIA official's name, Panamanian officials did not initially detect him in their database and only discovered their error after Interpol discussions between the two countries, the official added.
After that he was detained in Panama, and then released.
The New York-based Center for Constitutional Rights said the United States should not block Lady's extradition to Italy just as it was seeking the return of former spy agency contractor Edward Snowden, who is charged with leaking information about secret U.S. surveillance programs.
Snowden has been charged under the U.S. Espionage Act and has been stuck at a Moscow airport as he seeks asylum abroad.
Additional reporting by Tabassum Zakaria, Isabella Cota in San Jose, Catherine Hornby in Rome and David Adams in Miami; Editing by Jim Loney


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The Primetime Emmy Award nominations were announced on July 19, and the American Theatre Wing's 65th Annual Tony Awards® telecast on CBS (that's the 2011 show, hosted by Neil Patrick Harris) was nominated FIVE times. The Tony Awards are presented by The Broadway League and the American Theatre Wing.
The 2011 telecast received Emmy Award nominations in the following categories:
Outstanding Special Class Programs
65th Annual Tony Awards • CBS • White Cherry Entertainment (Ricky Kirshner and Glenn Weiss, Executive Producers) in association with Tony Award Productions • Host/Producer: Neil Patrick Harris
Outstanding Directing for a Variety Special
Glenn Weiss, Director
Outstanding Writing for a Variety Special
Written by Dave Boone
Special Material by Paul Greenberg
Outstanding Art Direction for Variety or Nonfiction Programming
Steve Bass, Production Designer
Seth Easter, Art Director
Outstanding Original Music And Lyrics
Song Title: "It's Not Just For Gays Anymore"
Music by Adam Schlesinger
Lyrics by David Javerbaum
The 64th Annual Primetime Emmy Awards, hosted by Jimmy Kimmel, will take place on Sunday, September 23rd, at 4pm PT/7pm ET, at the Nokia Theater in Los Angeles. The awards will air live on ABC.
The 64th Annual Primetime Creative Arts Emmy Awards will take place on Saturday, September 15th, at the Nokia Theater in Los Angeles.
Kirshner and Weiss previously won the Emmy Award in the Outstanding Special Class Programs Category in 2011 for the 64th Annual Tony Awards, 2010 for the 63rd Annual Tony Awards, 2008 for the 61st Annual Tony Awards and 2007 for the 60th Annual Tony Awards. They won the Emmy Award for Outstanding Variety, Music or Comedy Special in 2005 for the 58th Annual Tony Awards. Weiss was also the recipient of the Emmy for Outstanding Directing for a Variety, Music or Comedy Program in 2003 for the 56th Annual Tony Awards. Kirshner and Weiss have acted as executive producers of the Tony Awards telecast for the past seven years.
Dave Boone was honored with Emmys in the category of Outstanding Writing for a Variety, Music or Comedy Special in 2011 for the 64th Annual Tony Awards and in 2010 for the 63rd Annual Tony Awards.
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Boardman briefs
First Night Youngstown seeks event staffers
First Night Youngstown is seeking event staffers to handle duties at venues on Dec. 31. Event staff will receive a small monetary stipend. A mandatory training will be in November. Shift start times will vary depending on the venue, but none will end later than 10 p.m., giving staff an opportunity to enjoy the remaining festivities and the fireworks.
If you are interested in being considered for an event staff position, email firstname.lastname@example.com or call 330-744-9966 to request an application. Applications are due by Aug. 31.
Library committee reviewed proposals
The Building and Sites Committee of the Board of Trustees, Public Library of Youngstown and Mahoning County, met Aug. 8 to review proposals from 10 architectural firms for the new Canfield Library project.
No vote was taken today and the process will continue with a Building and Sites Committee meeting at 1 p.m. on Aug. 13 at the Austintown Library.
After the Building and Sites Committee has made a selection, this committee will submit its recommendation to the full Board of Trustees, which will make the final selection.
Just treasure sale to be Sept. 6
Bethel Lutheran Church will host a No Trash, Just Treasure sale Sept. 6 from 9 a.m. to 3 p.m. and Sept. 7 from 9 a.m. to 2 p.m. There will be a $2 bag day on Sept. 7 beginning at 11 a.m. The church is located at 425 Crestview Drive.
Fall festival set
Poland-Boardman Child Care Center, located at 1940 Boardman Poland Road, is hosting the second annual fall festival Sept. 21 from 1-5 p.m.
The festival will include food, games, a bounce-around, crafts, fire trucks
Support group meeting to be Sept. 18
The Mahoning Valley Fibromyalgia Support Group will resume its monthly meetings on Sept. 18 by welcoming Dr Noah Erikson, Chiropractor. Dr Erikson believes in integrating traditional medical models to include complementary and alternative medicines and to treat each case individually. The meeting is from 7-8:30 p.m. at Bethel Lutheran Church, located at 425 Crestview Drive in Boardman. All are welcome.
Comedy show set
Raise the Woof, a stand up comedy show, will be Sept. 7 at 7 p.m. at Magic Tree Pub and Eatery. Tickets are $20 and proceeds benefit For the Dogs, a non-profit organization. The event will include an appetizer buffet, basket raffle and a 50/50.
For tickets call 330-310-2802. For more information visit www.woofraise.com.
Soccer teams play for cancer
The Boardman High School girls soccer team will play in the fourth annual breast cancer game Sept. 28 at the high school. The game between the junior varsity and varsity will begin at 12:30 p.m. There will be several refreshments to purchase, baskets to raffle off and a short program to honor those who have been affected by this horrible disease.
Arms Museum plans Christmas program
Plans for this year's Memories of Christmas Past are underway at the Arms Family Museum. The Mahoning Valley Historical Society is looking to the Valley community for some help with this year's display. Highlights this year will be on local Valley traditions and will include family heirlooms, nativity collections, handmade cigar box doll houses and a large collection from John Garver, inventor of the locally produced Plakie twirler ornaments.
The society is looking for Christmas items related to downtown department stores. McKelveys, McCrorys, Higbees, Strouss-Hirshberg or any other downtown establishment are desirable. Items will be displayed on a short-term loan basis and will be returned to the owner after the exhibit closes in January.
Please email a description and picture of items to firstname.lastname@example.com or contact the Historical Society with any questions at 330-743-2589. Memories of Christmas Past opens on Nov. 23 and runs through January 5, 2014. Visit www.mahoninghistory.org for more details.
Download books to your eReader
The Boardman library will offer help downloading library books to your eReader. Call 330-744-8638 and ask for Boardman library to make an appointment for an individual session or register at the Librarian's Desk.
For teens and adults. Sessions will be scheduled during library hours through the month of August.
Family garden Fridays set
The Metro Parks will host Family Garden Fridays every Friday now through September from 10 a.m. to 2 p.m. Activities will be centered on gardening with children. Learn about vegetables with "Eat Your Colors" and see which insect is the "Bug of the Week." Call Fellows Riverside Gardens for information.
Dig into crafts at the library
Make and take crafts at the Boardman library during library hours through the month of August. For children of all ages.
Sculpt with Pilates
Pilates Sculpt will be offered every Wednesday in August from 6-7 p.m. Join trainer Angela Lubonovich in using light hand weights to tone the body with emphasis on core strength and control.
Call Fellows Riverside Gardens for information. Bring a mat, water (and two number weights if you have them). Cost is $10 per session; or use your Scenic Fitness Card.
Practice Yoga at the park
Yoga will be offered every Tuesday and Thursday in August from 9:30-11 a.m. and from 5:30-7 p.m. at Fellows Riverside Gardens. Join Marina Perdos in the mornings and Karres Cvetkovich in the evenings for a blend of energizing yoga styles. Students at all levels are welcome. Bring a mat and small blanket. Classes are outdoors weather permitting. Call Fellows Riverside Gardens for information. Cost is $10 per class; or use your Scenic Fitness Card.
Take T'ai Chi
T'ai Chi Step One will be offered every Wednesday in August from noon to 1 p.m. Ease stress, improve health and increase vitality.
Join Marie Lew in warm-ups, breathing exercises and selected movements from a classic Chen T'ai Chi form. Call Fellows Riverside Gardens for information. The cost is $10 per class; or use your Scenic Fitness Card.
Participate in Pilates
Pilates basics will be taught every Monday in August from 6:30-7:30 p.m. Work on toning, shaping, core strength, alignment and breathing with fitness trainer Angela Lubonovich.
Bring a mat and water.
Call Fellows Riverside Gardens for information. Cost $10 per session; or use your Scenic Fitness Card.
Wheat harvest activities set
Take a tractor-wagon ride through the MetroParks Farm. Wheat harvest will take place this month. Children can make a craft to take home. Suggested donations are $2 per person or $5 per family.
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For the next few weeks, I am going to tackle a number of lipstick swatches because you guys seem to like them so much.
First I am going to focus on the NYX lipsticks I own (about 30 of them I think).
Note: All swatches are subjective – this is just how it looks with my lighting and my camera and on my lips.
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Can you find pairs of differently sized windows that cost the same?
Can you find a way of counting the spheres in these arrangements?
Watch these videos to see how Phoebe, Alice and Luke chose to draw 7 squares. How would they draw 100?
Think of a number and follow my instructions. Tell me your answer, and I'll tell you what you started with! Can you explain how I know?
Jo made a cube from some smaller cubes, painted some of the faces of the large cube, and then took it apart again. 45 small cubes had no paint on them at all. How many small cubes did Jo use?
How could Penny, Tom and Matthew work out how many chocolates there are in different sized boxes?
A country has decided to have just two different coins, 3z and 5z coins. Which totals can be made? Is there a largest total that cannot be made? How do you know?
Can you make sense of these three proofs of Pythagoras' Theorem?
Can you find rectangles where the value of the area is the same as the value of the perimeter?
Crosses can be drawn on number grids of various sizes. What do you notice when you add opposite ends?
How good are you at finding the formula for a number pattern ?
Manufacturers need to minimise the amount of material used to make their product. What is the best cross-section for a gutter?
Jo has three numbers which she adds together in pairs. When she does this she has three different totals: 11, 17 and 22 What are the three numbers Jo had to start with?"
Can you find the area of a parallelogram defined by two vectors?
Imagine starting with one yellow cube and covering it all over with a single layer of red cubes, and then covering that cube with a layer of blue cubes. How many red and blue cubes would you need?
We can show that (x + 1)² = x² + 2x + 1 by considering the area of an (x + 1) by (x + 1) square. Show in a similar way that (x + 2)² = x² + 4x + 4
Pick a square within a multiplication square and add the numbers on each diagonal. What do you notice?
In this 100 square, look at the green square which contains the numbers 2, 3, 12 and 13. What is the sum of the numbers that are diagonally opposite each other? What do you notice?
Imagine a large cube made from small red cubes being dropped into a pot of yellow paint. How many of the small cubes will have yellow paint on their faces?
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The sums of the squares of three related numbers is also a perfect square - can you explain why?
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2011-09-07 Confederate • swarthy • DNA
Start: 12:05:23
alt: Hello daviss, I'll be here when you get back LOL
daviss: lol hi there alt!
alt: Howdy pardner... wanna buy an IPad? LOL
daviss: I was just reading your response to 3rd lol lol @ IPAD I was thinking, that they could actually be brothers
alt: Yeah, trying to follow 3rd's posting and the best I could come up with was a possible misstatement as to the parents of the two, or one individual
daviss: did you catch the ages at death
alt: yep, that's a possibility also no, there was too much there too read, I must have missed the age remarks.
daviss: I have two uncle James. One by first wife and one by second on 3rd they were 4 or 5 yrs apart on births and at least 10 yrs on deaths
alt: Yep, that happens... children being given the same first name, but often with different middle names.... look at George Foreman (sp) and his 6-7 okay, I missed that daviss
daviss: yep and as a side note regarding George lol his property that he bought for the training camp is right next to my gggrands in Marshall and his birth name is not Forman just raised by his stepfather
alt: I'm having some questions on the guy whose g-grandfather served in both the Confederate & Union Army.... It's a great story and I would like to hear his response to some questions.... no argument, just curious
Seventies Soulchild: hi alt and daviss
daviss: oh yes me too like the name lol'
alt: is that right daviss? re: george
daviss: hello seventies soulchild yep alt true
alt: Hi Seventies Soulchild, how are ya today?
AYWalton: Good afternoon, all.
3rdthawkins: hello alt daviss seventies and aywalton
AYWalton: hi 3rd
Seventies Soulchild: I'm doing well, how about you alt? and you too daviss.
daviss: hello AYWalton and 3rd
AYWalton: howdy alt, daviss, Soulchile!
alt: Hello 3rd & AY.... the party is getting started LOL
Seventies Soulchild: Hi AYWalton and 3rd
daviss: lol lol oops laughing too hard
Seventies Soulchild: alt I was reading through that thread earlier. Interesting story.
AYWalton: we are having a major downpour here in MD. Wish we could export some to folks in TX.
Seventies Soulchild: But what does 'swarthy' mean???
3rdthawkins: yeah, here too in VA AY
alt: Seventies Soulchild .. you ducked out on me yesterday... the family living in West Point were the Hayden's ... Lloyd Daniel Hayden and his kids... I think he might have worked at the Academy
daviss: I hear ya AY. I just talked to a cousin in Austin
Seventies Soulchild: sorry alt.. lol
AYWalton: to me, swarthy means tanned and probably somewhat leatherly in appearance.
3rdthawkins: hello Prodru
daviss: hi ProfDru
AYWalton: ProfDru is in da house!!
ProfDru: hello gang
Seventies Soulchild: hi ProfDru
alt: me too AYWalton on "swarthy"
daviss: I would agree with that AYWalton
3rdthawkins: never heard that term before interesting
daviss: learn something new everyday 3rd lol
alt: we've got a lot of swarthy folks in our family LOL
AYWalton: a man who worked in the fields--a farmer to me would have a swarthy appearance.
3rdthawkins: yep, hangin' with you all )
daviss: construction workers
alt: 3rdthawkins, you saw my response to your post on the States Forum?
AYWalton: I think the term would include white folks, light skinned black folks as well. Yes construction workers, sailors or stevedores, etc.
3rdthawkins: lol alt I hear ya, same on my dad's side
daviss: cowboys
3rdthawkins: not yet alt, just got in from D.C., was there for the weekend,
Seventies Soulchild: The question is, what did it mean in 1860 - 1865? This relates to Jan's post in "Myth of AfricanAmerican Confederate Soldier".
3rdthawkins: actually was in MD, but spent the night in D.C. hotel because of the rain
alt: okay, I just put it up bout 1/2 hour ago
3rdthawkins: ok, Im gonna go check it out now
Seventies Soulchild: I also got to check out the blog "Finding Agnes"
alt: Seventies Soulchild, I'm asking .. did he go into the confederate army as an African American, or was he mistaken for a white guy? hello Selma
AYWalton: Howdy Ms. Selma!
ProfDru: hello selma
Seventies Soulchild: oh ok. Well maybe Jan will respond back with an answer.
alt: he was obviously seen as a black man or he wouldn't have been an enlisted man in the USCT.
3rdthawkins: ok alt, yeah, I agree with that, the one with Joe Cummings has the wrong parents, Allen has the right one I believe
Selma: Afternoon everyone
alt: and the "myth" is not about the onesy-twosy's as Bennie often says, but about the thousands of black confederates who served in an 'integrated' confederate army.
daviss: I would love to know the name of the soldier
Seventies Soulchild: LOL I am running on auto pilot here.. I just read what I typed.. lol
alt: me too daviss
AYWalton: greetings, VKN!
ProfDru: hello vkn
vkn: Greetings to each and all
Seventies Soulchild: right, how the truth is bent into being made a lie. gotcha alt.
3rdthawkins: right alt, there's always exceptions to the rule, but the majority of the time you won't get AA's serving as Confederates
alt: hello vkn.... wanna buy an IPad? lol
Seventies Soulchild: hi vkn
3rdthawkins: hey vkn
AYWalton: lol @ alt!!!
vkn: LOL LOL LOL @ alt
daviss: hello vkn!
vkn: 3rd seventies profdru ayw daviss selma http://www.afrigeneas.com/aacensus/al/ Seventies have you been here
daviss: art, your friends grand that was captured and joined the union, did he survive the war
alt: yes he did daviss.. and his name is on the USCT monument in DC
daviss: thats wonderful alt
Seventies Soulchild: hey fierybug08
vkn: Another potential resource for 1866 Alabama census http://www.afrigeneas.com/aacensus/al/1860calhoun.html Howdy fiery
alt: his name was Tobias Bowdry daviss and I think he served under the nameof Wilson Jones.
fierybug08: hello everyone. Virtual wave to Seventies Soulchild vkn daviss AYWalton alt ProfDru Selma 3rd
alt: Hello fierybug08 ...
ProfDru: virtually waving back to ya, fierybug
AYWalton: hope all is well fierybug!
fierybug08: everything is good. just a little rain, but all is well
daviss: was his slaveholder Bowdry
Selma: Hi fiery..
alt: yes he was daviss
fierybug08: haven't seen you in a while Selma. How are you?
Selma: Doing OK fiery
vkn: good to hear selma
3rdthawkins: ok alt, I responded to the post, I agree, the uncle-by-marriage confused his wife's cousin with his wife's nephew of the same name. His daughter was informant on one, that is her mother's brother, and she was informant on her mother's DC and correctly stated the parents. So now I can put the right Joe with the right family. Thanks
alt: glad I could help 3rdthawkins
3rdthawkins: I should say he confused his wife's cousin with his wife's brother
AYWalton: going to run, folks. Have a good one!
alt: I dunno cause now you've got me confused LOL LOL LOL
3rdthawkins: lol
fierybug08: me too lol
daviss: me too alt lol
Selma: So on the Confederate soldier..was he Free, since they say he wasn't a slave?
fierybug08: thank goodness for transcripts
3rdthawkins: now you know I how felt lol lol
vkn: Did you see the "slavery" game posted in TheGriot this morning if so what do you think about it ?
daviss: dunno Selma,
alt: that was another question I asked him Selma.. were these folks listed in the census prior to the CW as FPOC's?
Seventies Soulchild: Who knows. You know it has come to my attention that people post on public message boards just to stir up controversy.
daviss: hoax in my opinion vkn
3rdthawkins: she didn't say much Seventies, she just threw out one little fact or whatever, and never really showed she studied it
alt: this guy has made this claim on the boards before Seventies Soulchild, but you could be right, even they he stated his post was 'not to start a debate'
3rdthawkins: no one's saying it can't happen and that it's impossible, but it's not likely
ProfDru: gotta run
Seventies Soulchild: I don't read the Griot or the Root. All of it is just 'black face' white words.
vkn: Well I have a "Confederate" in my tree and he is posted on the wall at the memorial in DC Name is BUSH
Seventies Soulchild: Interesting vkn
alt: I know vkn.. and we know there are exceptions... did he serve as a 'soldier' in both the Union and Confederate Army, or was he an 'impressed confederate' and not a 'soldier'
Selma: Sure got quiet.. LOL
Seventies Soulchild: yep
daviss: I was waiting lol
alt: folks be thinking Selma
Seventies Soulchild: Anyway, ok well last night I was on genealogywise and saw how they did their nightly chats. it was interesting.
Selma: How do they do it seventies?
vkn: Alt he served with Pelham and may have been a body servant BUT he be glorified and celebrated by the wheet peeps in Alabama
Seventies Soulchild: they have a topic night and a person selects an article or issue and they post it. And you can discuss after the presentation is complete.
alt: oh I'm sure vkn.
Seventies Soulchild: Kind of like a low cost webinar... lol
daviss: did he get a pension vkn
3rdthawkins: sounds interesting
vkn: He did daviss
alt: a Union pension vkn, right vkn or one from Alabama for his service to the confederacy? or both
vkn: Not sure about source alt will need to double check
alt: okay vkn
daviss: was he one of the Bush clan that went over to Colorado vkn?
vkn: Prolly from Alabama. He brought Pelham and his horse back safely to Calhoun County from Richmond VA
daviss: faithful
vkn: The clan you speak may have stemmed from him daviss
alt: Seventies Soulchild,,,, West Point is in Putnam Co., right?
Seventies Soulchild: No Orange County
vkn: Calhoun county is rich in poor Bush daviss lol
alt: okay, the Hayden's, Lloyd Daniel Hayden worked at the Academy.. is Putnam Co., NY nearby?
daviss: lol lol vkn
Seventies Soulchild: Yes quite close. Actually West Point sits near a tri-county area.
daviss: any Spann's in your line vkn or Burks/Burke
vkn: Not to my knowledge daviss where are they "
Seventies Soulchild: so its 15 mins in any direction from Putnam, Rockland and Orange. Just by the Hudson river
vkn: I will see daviss
daviss: now vkn, you know how my luck runs :o
vkn: lol
Seventies Soulchild: Google is getting on my nerves.
alt: okay Seventies Soulchild, I did some genealogy for the Hayden's.. they married into an AA Eichelberger family from SC that migrated to Springfield, Ohio.
vkn: If Calhoun and Cleburne Counties then they may be kin to my BELLs
Seventies Soulchild: ok
daviss: don't you have ties in Autauga (sp)
Seventies Soulchild: lol daviss you're going to get it right one day.. AUTAUGA!
daviss: lol lol seventies
vkn: Bought a stylus on Monday and it helps with the ipad keyboard
Seventies Soulchild: I have ties in Autauga County, AL... Laniers Mixons Smiths
fierybug08: how do you pronouce Autauga?
alt: I do daviss.. the Wicker family ca the 1830's who became FPOC and came into Ohio.. the Wicker's married into the Reno family her in the 1850's.
Seventies Soulchild: Aw-Ta-Gwa Actually long a Ah Tah Gwa
fierybug08: hmmm just what I thought *in my southern accent*
Seventies Soulchild: LOL sorry wrong again Ah Tah Ga
alt: I think there was a settlement of French Huguenot's in Autauga Co in the early 1800's that came there from Manakin Town in Goochland Co., VA.
Seventies Soulchild: You know I was reading about some Dejarnettes who were in VA. They are also in Autauga, Co.
daviss: patillos in autauga
Seventies Soulchild: There are also some DeBardlabon's in the area. white and black
vkn: alt how long to get results from FTDNA
Seventies Soulchild: I haven't seen a patillo yet daviss.. lol
alt: usually about 4-6 weeks vkn for mtDNA, Y-DNA & Admixture
vkn: and how then to send to african ancestry or what is the next sequence
alt: Isn't Autauga near Moblie, AL were there is a heavy concentration of French influence.
vkn: I am almost totally clueless with this dna business
Seventies Soulchild: Mobile is near the coast. Autauga is in the black belt
alt: not sure if there is an 'exchange' between AA and FTDNA vkn.
Seventies Soulchild: Close to Biloxi, MS, Pass Christian
vkn: ahhhh
Seventies Soulchild: I do know that AA does read DNA tests from other companies.
vkn: ok
daviss: what do you mean alt about exchange
vkn: AYW gave me a good orientation but I get lost in the forum discussions re dna I need to constantly update my glossary if not my understanding
alt: there are many places where you can have your "allele" and DYS values analyzed regardles of company that tested. example mitosearch & Y-DNA search.
vkn: hmmm okies new language alt , watch it !
alt: daviss, some companies allow you to input your 'raw data' into their algorithems from other companies for interpaetation Oops, soryy bout that vkn LOL
vkn: whoa mister fesser thomas
daviss: ok I heard that alt.. I may move brothers to FTDNA
alt: no, know-it-all Thomas LOL
vkn: selma did you dna as yet know it none nelson
alt: vkn, I know enough to be 'dangerous' LOL
vkn: lol lol lol y'all be good
alt: well y'all clock on the wall says 'quittin time' see ya's
daviss: me too lol bye sel and seventies


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It wasn't too many years ago that when farmers finished harvesting they began watching New York futures to determine the best time to "fix" their price either by selling cotton on the spot market or with futures in a marketing pool.
These days, growers still watch the futures market but not with the intensity that they look at another number — the marketing loan gain value or loan deficiency payment rate announced each Thursday by USDA's Farm Service Agency.
"Two questions I'm often asked are: "How can we predict the level of loan deficiency payment (LDP) rates?" and "When will the LDP rates be the highest?" says Charles Curtis, professor and Extension economist in the Department of Agricultural & Applied Economics at Clemson University.
"In other words, they want to know if they should take the LDP or producer option or POP payment now or wait until later," he said. "Many growers remember that the LDP shrank to almost zero at harvest last year and then began to increase early in 2001."
With New York December cotton futures trading at 36 cents a pound when he spoke at the Southern Regional Outlook Conference in Atlanta recently, Curtis said there is little doubt that farmers again will be trying to maximize their LDPs. (Since then, December has fallen to 29 cents per pound and the LDP has risen to nearly 30 cents.)
And while recent history indicates farmers should wait until the dust settles from harvest before taking an LDP, Clemson economists have developed tools that could provide guidance for making such decisions.
To help South Carolina producers address this issue, Clemson economists began keeping records of loan deficiency payment rates in 1999. Those figures are available at http://cherokee.agecon.clemson.edu/ldp_page.htm.
Using those numbers, Clemson researchers developed a table that shows the monthly average basis of USDA's adjusted world price (AWP) in relation to the nearby New York cotton futures contract. "This table allows a prediction of the AWP, which can then be compared to the CCC base loan rate of 51.92 cents per pound to calculate a predicted LDP," Curtis notes.
Based on data from the years 1998 through 2001, the table shows a January basis relative to March 2002 futures of 16.7. With March futures at 30.57 cents per pound (on Oct. 30), the predicted AWP would be 13.87. Subtracting the predicted AWP from the 51.92-cent loan rate yields a January 2002 LDP prediction of 38.05.
(Curtis noted that research is under way to explore the relationship of the adjusted world price as the value of the dollar changes relative to other important currencies such as the Euro.)
That's about eight cents per pound higher than the Oct. 26 LDP rate of 29.87 cents per pound. (Curtis notes that the basis information in the table should be used with a degree of caution because of the relatively short period of experience with LDPs.)
What if, on the other hand, March futures do an about face and move back to the range of 40 cents per pound?
If the basis relationships of the last three years hold true, the predicted AWP would rise to around 24 cents per pound and the LDP, as a result, would fall back to 27.9 cents per pound.
"According to our long-term price charts, futures do tend to rise in winter and early spring," says Curtis. "If that is the case, it would indicate that loan deficiency payments would be lower in the spring."
Looking at the current market-based probabilities of prices out to next June, the prospects of prices recovering such that there is no LDP by the end of next spring "are effectively nil," he said. "However, a price recovering to a level so that a 42-cent July 2002 call option would move in the money is near 45 percent."
Thus, growers who are concerned that the market could follow historical trends, rebound and reduce the LDP — or who need cash to pay debts this fall — might consider taking the LDP now, selling their crop and buying a call option. The call option at 200 to 300 points is a cheaper, less risky means of speculating on future prices increases, Curtis notes.
"One strategy would be to accept the harvest market value (26.44 cents in the cash market — 28.94 December futures on Oct. 30 less the 250-point southeast basis — and the 29.87 Oct. 26 LDP rate) and reinvest 200 to 250 points into the July 02 call," says Curtis. "With a 45 percent plus probability of gain on the option, there's a good chance of adding to the 56.31 cents that would be received for the 2001 crop."
For now, the market is giving cotton producers little to cheer about from the futures standpoint. As the U.S. crop size has continued to climb past 20 million bales and economic conditions have continued to deteriorate, New York cotton futures have dropped to their lowest levels in more than 25 years.
When Curtis spoke in Atlanta in late September, USDA was estimating U.S. production at just under 20 million bales. The Oct. 20 crop production report raised the projection to 20.07 million bales, the largest crop in modern history. Adding the estimated carry-in of 6.03 million bales would make the 2001-02 crop supplies the largest on record.
Contributing to the market's woes is USDA's projection of 8.3 million bales of mill use in the 2001-2002 marketing year (Aug. 1-July 31).
"This is well below the average for the 1990s and is much smaller than we'd grown accustomed to in the mid-nineties," says Curtis. "This is assumed to reflect three factors including flat product demand, a strong U.S. dollar and little incentive to buy in a falling market."
With numerous plant closings and layoffs, the U.S. textile industry appears to be in disarray, Curtis notes. "One could expect to see the more labor-intensive activities in the textile manufacturing process to continue its move to cheaper labor markets such as Mexico. Hopefully, these overseas mills will continue to value U.S. cotton and be a source of export demand."
Exports are projected to be substantially higher at nine million bales than what has been the average for the 1990s or about 6.8 million bales, he said. "The current forecast reflects tighter global stocks and increased consumption. Projected export market strength has been attributed to reduced price supports and a dramatic drawdown of Chinese cotton stocks and reduced southern hemisphere production."
With the dramatic increase in production, USDA forecasts U.S. ending stocks to reach 8.7 million bales, a huge jump from the 1990s average of 3.85 million bales. The higher carryover number will send the 2001-2002 stocks-to-use ratio to 50 percent, compared to the 30 percent target in the cotton industry's farm policy objectives.
Curtis says LDPs help explain what some are calling the enigma of the cotton market; that is, why growers continue to expand cotton acres when prices have almost been in a free-fall since early this year.
"If you take the cash price of 32.50 cents (based on the 35-cent December futures price on Sept. 21) and add a 30-cent LDP to it, the grower receives 62.50 cents for his cotton in 2001," he noted. "That's why cotton is king again in so many of our states."
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