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Can't score a penalty how do think England would hit an asteroid with a nuke?
Tomorrow is election day, and on most issues the politicians aren't offering you any clear choices. Nobody's being open regarding what they'll do about the public finances, for instance: more than one politician has revealed total ignorance combined with terrifying eagerness to make policy. But on one issue there is a clear …
Nukes are really going to deter a nation of suicide bombers ....... Get Real FFS
The USA is really going to let us retaliate with weapons they effectively control if we have already been attacked .... same applies
So when would we use these expensive luxuries ... first strike .. like they'll let that happen.
"The USA is really going to let us retaliate with weapons they effectively control if we have already been attacked"
The US do not (contrary to popular belief) have final control over the UK's nuclear weapons. As I understand it each submarine commander has sealed orders from the serving PM defining what the commander should do in the event of the destruction of the UK. That may be "submit to the control of the US" but may it may not. If the instruction is to fire on an identified attacker then the submarine can strike with no further input from anyone. British nuclear doctrine has for a long time been based on the idea that a US president could be unwilling to risk his own country on the behalf of an ally that was already a smoking cinder.
Unlike France the UK system is not truly "independent" as most of the technology is American even if the warheads are built in the UK, but saying the Americans "control" it at an operational level is just plain wrong.
Jesus wept! I'd have thought an IT site would have a readership who understood that physical access to the hardware gives you total control. Even if the US *had* inserted something into the control systems of the ICBMs, they've been in our possession for some years now and you can be damn sure that we have the only key and once they are launched they stay launched.
You'll be telling me next that JFK was bumped off by the Lizard People.
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The Tridents themselves are drawn from a common pool with the with US navy and get replaced from that when they go back for maintenance so any "technological" method you allude to would also be present in their own missiles. I doubt they would like that idea either. The warheads are made here (to a US design, probably) Nor are they dependant on the GPS system being inertially guided.
The USA does *not* have any control over our nuclear weapons. If we decide to land a spread of warheads over the USA then the subs could easily land a warhead on the Whitehouse lawn without leaving the Clyde.
Yes, although we could do it we wouldn't because the US could do the same to London. But hey, that's deterrence and not any fault of the weapon system.
The vaunted "control" over our weapon system is the fact that we bought Trident from the US. That's it.
The USA has the same level of control over our warheads as your stationary supplier has over your pen. They don't have a key or any such like nonsense. The only people that say we do are just sprouting the usual "it's pointless" propaganda from the CND.
Trident is not an "expensive" luxury at £25 billion over it's when compared to £186 billion of benefits payments. A year. In fact, I think you'll agree it looks downright trivial.
And if you come back with the tired argument that international trade will prevent wars in the future, please look up who Nazi Germany's biggest trading partner was before the start of WW2. Given that trade didn't seem to protect France, I think i'll place my faith in the ability to reduce any possible aggressor to a molten crater. It's the golden standard of ensuring that we won't see another generation conscripted and sent to fight in a world war. Massive conscript armies are simply pointless in the face of nuclear weapons, and long may it remain the case.
...beyond what they read in the papers.
I'm afraid the average intelligence in the IT community is somewhat lower than that id expected, Peter2 you are indeed correct but i don't think people on here have the first clue on anything Historical so we are at a loss on this one, but just think, if this lot get there way in 10 years or 50 years or 150 years' time if the world goes tits up and hundreds of Millions die because of their ignorance we can sit back on whatever seat we reside and hope they feel a level of guilt, of course they will probably blame it on someone else but that is there nature.
If only they would realise that the future is uncertain that no amount of thinking and forward planning can take every possible eventuality in to account, they would see how much of a gamble removing our Nukes is, as I've said in my big post somewhere below Removing them potentially gambles with Millions of lives vs. the slow but steady increase in world stability since the two wars, and not one of you can say I'm wrong,
This really has to be one of the daftest pieces of political writing the Register has published in a long time.
Lewis Page is coming dangerously close to having a single-issue bee in his bonnet.
I'd suggest that anyone who thinks that space migration or nuclear missiles are amongst the country's most urgent priorities needs to have his head examined, but I wouldn't go anywhere near it until that ridiculous bee has been dealt with.
Masterful analysis that fails to explain the slight logical problem that none of those countries who *might* just try to nuke us have weapons delivery systems that can make this happen.
Never mind, Trident will defend us against the much more probable dirty bomb delivered by hand, won't it???
Oh dear. Those reasons for not voting Lib Dem would be very good reasons indeed if the LDs were in Opposition and in danger of achieving actual power on their own.
But as the very best they can hope for is to be the minor party in a coalition, and that after a certain amount of wheeling and dealing, there's no danger of one of the two big parties agreeing to those particular planks of the LD platform when it so contradicts their own.
To be honest, it all seems much of a piece with the Murdoch press's scare-mongering, designed to hand power over to Cameron's cronies: if you want a Tory Government, fine - just don't pretend that's not what you're after.
(1) become a coalition partner with whichever party will agree to any of the floated ideas for electoral reform;
(2) get the electoral reform passed based;
(3) find a suitable moral issue such as Trident to act as a pretext for walking out of the coalition;
(4) wait for the inevitable early election and grab a hundred or more extra seats under the new rules.
The Lib Dems with just about 100 more seats are as large as the Conservatives were post-1997 and post-2001.
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Since we're talking coalition government here, technocratic (i.e. big and bloody complicated) matters such as this were the partners disagree will be put to official review and a compromise deal reached. Any party that forces an election over subjects such as this will feel the full fury of the public who would be rather that the new series of Apprentice was not delayed again. With both the other parties broadly agreeing on these matters the Lib Dems would be obliterated if they tried to take it to the electorate.
The Lib Dem base might grumble and mutter into their beards when their policies are brushed under the carpet but they'll have PR, a fairer tax system and a hand in many other policies.
If the UK needs to import 65% of its power, there is no need to nuke. Just switch the power off at source and wait.
We are now a minor nation, little more than a laughing stock, £11billion in debt (most probably to the Chinese), we encourage tax evasion and grant privileges to the rich (who then rape our assets and avoid tax).
The days of Empire are long gone, it's time we realised that our place is to do what America (or China) tells us and shut up. Unless we get a parliament with some balls and integrity.
And judging from the candidates the parties have put forward, there's not a hope in hell of that happening. Even if it did, the unelected quangos in the EU (who meet in secret, of course) would attempt to block any actual change.
"Rule Britannia, Britannia rules the bathtub.
[And a borrowed bathtub at that.]
Britons are now slaves.
[Thanks to Brown, Blair, Mandelson et al]"
I can understand an ex-warmonger like yourself (subs by any chance?) being in favour of big bangs, the bigger the better. But we really dont need a nuclear deterent. the USSR is gone, and the loons currently trying to get into that game will not be deterred by anything.
The greatest risk to the UK is now and always was friendly fire. and if you are proposing we get tooled up to parity with the inbreds across the pond, you are barking.
Best way to reduce friendly fire - change our friends.
Power stations - fair point we are in the brown stuff now and it will only get worse and nukes are the only sensible way to go.
the british space programme
it that really the best you can do.
in space no one can hear you laugh
good on all the other commenters pointing out what a crock of shit this article is.
Really, if you want to attack a party for being in any way "anti-science" you should be pointing the gun at the conservatives and their christian-powered, devoid of fact or reason policy machine.
Possibly the worst piece I have read on the reg for some time - I thought the Sun was good at scaremongering but this takes the biscuit.
Welcome Lewis to my new ignore list - you and Orlowski will be very happy together.
Many more articles like this and I'll be setting my homepage to the bbc instead.
WTF? If we have to vote for the least-worst party, then the Lib Dems get my vote - I'm FOR nuclear power but taken as a whole their policies match me the closest.
Trident - WHO are we threatening again? I'd be really intersted to see where those Nukes are pointed at, I really would. It's the equivalent of the Tanks at Heathrow after 9/11 (remember those?). Bluster.
Yes some of the LD policies do not match my own but nobody is going to fit me precisely, and policies can change in the light of reality.
Your article is a charter for 'Don't bother' politics really - shafted if you try, shafted if you don't.
There's a lot of reasons this article is flawed, not all of which I can address. I can however address a fair few of them.
Firstly: Professor McKays book, while an incredibly interesting read and definitely recommended, simply adds up the cost of our current lifestyle and then looks for power to keep it going. The book doesn't address many energy saving measures, and so the claims that the UK would need to be packed to the rafters with wind turbines are somewhat redundant.
Secondly: Nuclear power is prohibitively expensive. We don't realise this now, because the last power stations were built over 40 years ago. Nuclear power has benefited from huge government subsidies, in the form of various nuclear related agencies, limits to public liability insurance, and because of the by products it can produce. Without such subsidies, the economic viability of it is questionable. Nuclear power is inherently linked into the government, and so benefits from a lot of public agencies. If new power stations were solely public affairs, and these costs were taken into account in the cost of electricity, then this wouldn't be so bad, but the fact that new nuclear power stations would likely be private companies means that the government is essentially giving them a free ride.
The article discusses some pretty fanciful things, like space flight, destroying asteroids and technology development. There are a number of problems with your arguments here as well.
If there is an asteroid threatening the earth, the UK is unlikely to be the one called on to provide a nuclear strike. Given that we have no space program whatsoever (due to labour and conservative governments), it is highly unlikely we would have any real input on the matter, trident or not. Trident isn't capable of destroying asteroids anyway, so the point is pretty much moot.
Without a space program, the UK is unlikely to explore other planets. This is pretty much unrelated to civil nuclear power. The nuclear power used by spaceships is very much unlike that used for civil power, and the two have very little bearing on each other. If the UK chose to not use nuclear power, it would have no effect on the development of small scale nuclear reactors for space ships.
Finally, suggesting that voting for the lib dems tomorrow will result in the entirety of humanity becoming extinct is pushing it a bit even for the register. Voting Lib Dem will *not* cause humanity to die out due to asteroids, and is likely to have no affect on any space programmes anywhere in the world (given that we don't have one anyway). It will, however, bring the electoral reform this country needs. It will reduce the number of stupid databases the government holds. It will ensure that the poor are protected from poverty, it will bring a fairer tax system, and it will bring the governmental shakeup that this country needs.
This article is mostly crap, with a smidgeon of idiocy mixed in. I understand that (for some reason) the register has a right wing political agenda (has anyone ever got to the bottom of why an IT news site catering to educated professionals is so right wing/climate change denying?), but that doesn't really mean you should push utter tripe onto your readership.
Yet more dribble from El Reg that shows why it should stick to IT news rather than the political campaigning that this place has turned into... all three main parties are pro long-term disarmament but believe we should maintain a nuclear deterrent for the foreseeable future. All they disagree on is what form it should take; Labour and the Tories go on about the up-and-coming review of our seriously out-dated military but they've already committed them to an over-priced and out-dated nuclear deterrent in a form that is of no use to us. Having a single submarine at sea with our nuclear deterrent on simply gives us a single point of failure for our entire future safety, much more logical to have a good few land launched ICBMs or the ability to mount it to Eurofighters/F-35s as that way it can be kept separate, isolated and safe.
As for nuclear power, I do overall agree with you that nuclear power is a necessary way forward but the Lib Dems raise the very good point that the lights are probably going to go out in 2014 but we're not going to get a new nuclear power station until at least 2018.
As for the rest of it, they're hardly priorities.
I'm glad that was marked as opinion, because a lot of it seemed to be making some pretty big assumptions. Like everyone else I'll just put in my worthless two penneth and sacrifice it to the internet gods.
I think the commitment from the Lib Dems is that the Trident system will be added to the list of things discussed in the next strategic defence review, something all parties believe needs to be done I might add, and have merely suggested that there may be alternatives. No commitment to scrap, but equally no commitment for a like for like replacement.
I also find it difficult (not impossible mind,) to imagine a genuine need for an exchange of nuclear arms on any kind of scale. Lets take the implausable scenario of a radical state developing a nuclear capability and producing a lone long range nuclear weapon. Lets further assume they detonate it over Birmigham. Would we retalliate? Realistically? And assuming we did, I think its safe to say that the UK's nuclear arsenal would be fully to committed to retaliation. Even if this system had been downgraded to cruise missiles and similar systems I think there'd be more than enough firepower to effectively delete a country.
Again, I just don't see it as a likely scenario anyway. I certainly can't envision a scenario when a nation with a nuclear arsenal would start firing weapons off willy nilly as there are no illusions as to the consequences that would hold for their own nation.
I'm trying to think of a nation with that kind of capability and the will to do it. Iran and North Korea are the obvious choices but their programs are very much in their infancy, despite what they want the world to believe. If someone knows better or can think of another nation with any sort of capability and the political will to cause problems for the UK please say.
Personally I think nuclear power is the way forward so the Lib Dems and I disagree wholeheartedly on that point, but I think the automatic assumption that an unwillingness to invest in it will lead to power shortages and some kind of Heath Robinson-esque power system from overseas are a bit far fetched. It's easy enough to play the 'Bah, they're all pliticians' card, but I think common sense comes into play at some point, even for those with moat cleaning bills.
Why would cancelling or scrapping Trident rule out a keeping nuclear deterrent?
ICBM's are inflexible and only really good for blowing the crap out of entire cities or most likely whole countries. They are good as a deterrent and that's about all they are good for. Anyone who actually uses one sign's their own death warrant. That's the MAD concept. Even the soviets got that.
The chances that a country would launch a huge attack against any one else is now very small. The most likely cause would be an accident or a rogue element in the military.
More worrying are terrorists and given their tendency for stupidity, it's a wonder that one of those missing soviet brief-case nukes hasn't been used before now. Difficult to trace and who do you attack in retaliation?
Why not replace Trident with a more flexible missle system which has options to launch various precision non-nuclear weapons as well as lower yield nuclear weapons? Something small and stealthy and keeps the enemy guessing would be ideal lauchable from subs and aircraft would be super.
With modern accuracy you don't need megaton weapons to cause serious damage; surgical strikes against infrastructure would be more effective in the short and medium term. The soviets want for big bangs because their accuracy was very low.
However any use of a nuclear option, even in retaliation might well cause such a backlash from around the world politically and economically that it's use might not be worth the consequences.
Conventional weapons can cause enough damage to make an enemy think twice about attacking. And we are not even taking about bio-weapons or nano-tech which would be far more scary.
An EMP weapon detonated at 10 - 20 miles up would force most modern countries back to the 17th century for a while; probably at least a generation. Screw up their banking systems for long enough and they would be on their knees in quick order. Back to barter and exchange of gold / silver coins etc.
All of those older generation of Plutonium based or triggered weapons can be recycled into new lower power options and civilian power sources at lower cost then having to make the stuff from scratch and keeps the stuff locked up away from terrorists.
Also, from your argument that no one would attack a nuclear-armed nation, nor, on the other hand, would NATO allies retaliate against an attack on any member - despite that being precisely what NATO is for - you've just proved that the 9/11 attacks in the nuclear-armed U.S. did not happen, nor did Britain go to war in Afghanistan and, for some reason presumably, Iraq, last decade, on account of our NATO mamber obligation.. Well done, I must have dreamed it. What a relief.
As for nuclear power plants, economically they are mainly used for manufacture of nuclear weapons. Without the military cross-subsidy they are basically unaffordable.
Mine's the dirty-bomb hazmat suit.
....til the climate change dig.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with questioning the consensus and looking at the actual science.
Sure, El Reg can be a little one-sided on the subject but I haven't seen any other 'mainstream' news site doing any real questioning at all.
The subs are stationed in the Atlantic and do not venture outside the few thousand clicks kill zone from which they can nuke Moscow. The Trident range is 7400 for the original one and 12000 for the "improved". I suspect that this is down-rotation figures so they are a 1K or so less shooting counter the earth rotation.
In order to have a working nuclear deterrent in todays day and age Britain either has to develop proper ICBMs with "anywhere on Earth" range, position extra 3-4 subs so it can have some stationed in the Indian or Pacific Ocean or simply make it realistically limited - sized up for North Korea, Pakistan or the like and not for USSR, USA, China or France.
Trident as current, updated or envisaged is an obsolete weapon and its ability to retaliate at "anyone launching an attack" is vastly overrated. There is simply not enough of them out on active duty to cover the currently known "anyones". ICBM or long range cruise missile bearing frigate fleet or train-based whole-planet range ICBMs are probably better suited for today's world.
I'm sorry but claims that the UK would need to be packed to the rafters to have any credible energy input from wind turbines are not redundant in the slightest. It comes down to simple maths:
In 2004 the UK generated 382.7 TWh of electricity. For the sake of argument I'll agree with your "energy saving measures" and work on the principle we could save 50% of electricty through those measures. Using the 2004 figures that means we would need to generate 191.35 TWh of electricty. Say we wanted to generate half of this through wind power we would need to generate 95.68 TWh from turbines. Your average onshore wind turbine is rated at 2MW (yes, I know offshore turbines can be rated up to 6MW, but bear with me), and is about 25% efficient i.e. accross a 24 hr period it's average generation will be 0.5 MW. This means that in 24 hrs your 25% efficient 2MW turbine will generate 12 MWh, accross a year this equates to 4,380 MWh of electricty. To produce the 95.68 TWh (or 95,680,000 MWh) mentioned above would require no less than 21,844 turbines. This equates to 50% of our required electricty assuming we can cut our electricty use by 50% (impossible IMO). Don't even get me started on what happens when the wind stops blowing or everyone moves to electric cars!


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This hilarious parody of Bruno Mars' club hit Grenade, was written and directed by Payman Benz. Payman is of Awkward Pictures, which includes Sean Becker, and known for their comedic genius.
Payman approached me a while back wanting to set up a website with his videos and information about him. A very simple site was what he wanted.
I quickly suggested he should seek out wordpress templates, which he took to heart because I started getting links to templates he liked. "Can you make some changes to this template? Is that hard?" were some of the companion questions I'd get.
I've had about a good hour max of facetime with Payman in the past so I didn't really know him too well. I am a fan of his work, and he's heard of me through Sean and the work I do for The Guild. I quickly realized that this man has his head on straight. Particularly with what he wants with his site. Perfect!
Ultimately, he found the template which did what he wanted and had the basic look he needed. He also asked me if I could work on this and get it done by today. He had a new music video he was uploading and wanted to coincide his site launch with it. I said, "Sure!"
Payman sent me everything I asked for. And even stuff I didn't. He gave me good quality photos for his thumbnails and a list of his videos, separated into the categories he wanted. He even went as far as create photoshop mock images of his site. The man made things SUPER easy for me to set up.
The other reason for this blog post is because I came across an issue while working on this template. Half of Payman's videos are on Funny or Die. That website is usually not supported in plugins or anything video-related. YouTube, Vimeo, self-hosted files, is usually as far as they go. This template was the same. I looked at the functions, and figured out how it worked and actually added support for FoD. It also came with prettyPhoto, a javascript library for opening up lightbox-like views of pictures and videos. I added FoD support for that as well.
It felt good to be able to do something like that, and do quickly also. I remember back in the days when I would spend hours trying to dissect code for Felicia or The Guild to fix something or make it work how we needed it.
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- By CA Readers
- | From Laurence Fishburne, May/June 2013
Dear Marvin,
Loved your April edition and, in particular, the articles on Jeremy Irons and "20 For 20, The 20 Greatest Acts of Sport Since 1992."
Irons hits the nail on the head when he says, "If you're going to have a cigar over dinner, you've got to be at home to do it. I think smokers are really singled out in a way that seems disproportionate. But smokers have no lobby."
My state now outlaws smoking in every kind of public place. Where I used to have a beer, a good cigar and listen to the blues playing now is a thing of the past. I'm sorry, but one size really doesn't fit all. No one seems to get that.
And regarding the top 20 sporting acts, writer Shouler missed one of the granddaddy's of all by not mentioning the 1996 Green Bay Packers. With Reggie White, Brett Favre and a slew of other great players, the team brought the Lombardi Trophy back to Titletown for the first time in 30 years. It marked the team's 12th World Title—more than any other team—in a town of a little over 100,000 people. In an era of big-city dominance, little Green Bay continues to slug it out with the big boys and the team is owned by the people.
Keep fighting the good fight!
Kent Keys
Grand Forks, North Dakota
Dear Marvin,
As a loyal subscriber to Cigar Aficionado, I would like to say thank you for all the thoughtful and most enjoyable issues you have published. Receiving the bimonthly issue of Cigar Aficionado is one of life's sweet pleasures my wife and I look forward to. Hence, another reason for this letter. I would like to offer a suggestion for your consideration. Your tag line on the front cover states "The Good Life Magazine for Men." I would like to suggest the tag line also include women as well. In the year 2013, with women making up almost one-half the workforce, and women outnumbering men 36 percent to 28 percent achieving college degrees in the United States, I think it would be most appropriate to include their gender into the fold of your magazine as well, by changing the tag line to: "The Good Life Magazine for Men and Women."
As you know and demonstrate in many of the teriffic fun photos displayed in the back of each issue, many women also smoke cigars, my wife included.
Peering into the future, I see the change as a moral and economic issue for your consideration. The time has come, and the future is now.
I would like to thank you in advance for your time regarding this matter.
Jerome Berger
DeLand, Florida
Dear Marvin,
Great interview of Mr. Irons! It must be an English "thing" as William F. Buckley inhaled too.
Christopher J. Fuller
Fort Walton Beach, Florida
Editor's Reply: Not be argumentative, but Mr. Buckley was born in New York City. Maybe inhaling is just a personal thing for some lovers of the leaf, but it's not one we recommend.
Dear Marvin,
Love the magazine and everything in it. Thought I'd call out Kenneth Shouler just for fun. Being as subjective as a top 20 list is, I found that the White Sox World Series victory in 2005 was not included. Surely after 96 years it was a bigger moment than some of Shouler's choices. Had it been the Cubs I'm sure he'd still be writing about it. Oh and by the way, don't even get me started about the Blackhawks winning the Stanley Cup.
Mike Hughes
Atlanta, Georgia
Editor's Reply: One thing is for sure, whenever you make a list of the top 20, or 25, or 100 of anything, you are never going to please everyone in the crowd. Mr. Shouler wasn't just looking at baseball, but every sport. Like you said, maybe the White Sox victory in the World Series should be a contender for his list. But more than the Yankees dynasty or the Red Sox victory? That's what lists are for—good debates.
Dear Marvin,
The minute my husband brought in the mail and I saw Jeremy Irons on the cover, I knew you had done it again.
The article on Jeremy, who has earned the right to be called an "artistic genius," was outstanding. You chose well in picking him for your cover. I liked what I read. It was refreshing to hear that he is not one to shy away from controversy, and genuinely enjoys his cigars. Keep up the good work!!
Lauretta Johnson
San Diego, California
Editor's Reply: We agree. Anyone who is willing to stand up for their right to smoke is okay in our book. And Mr. Irons certainly falls into the category of someone willing to voice his opinion about how badly smokers are treated today. We need more like him.


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One Down….. Two To Go!!
Going into last weeks game vs Pittsburgh you would have thought that winning 3 out of the last 4 games to go 11-5 would be enough to get in the playoffs. After a HUGE 20-8 win over the Giants it doesn't look like much has changed. In fact, it looks like the only way to get in is to win the last two games!
Now I know that we responded last night with a big effort in a must win game. But the reality of the NFL is that we now have only six days to do it again versus one of the best defenses in the league. That being said you have to like to way things are going right now. The way the defense has played over the last 6 weeks, and the last 2 specifically, have made me a believer.
All we have to do is get in. I laugh at those who have picked apart the Cowboys December record, last year in particular. The Cowboys had everything wrapped up going down the stretch and didnt really need to win any of those games.
IF we get in (and it still is really an IF) this team will be the most prepared to make a run than any Cowboy team over the past 4 years. Our playoffs started last night. No weeks off, no time for the media to ask questions about the Super Bowl.
I think the 3-4 road record is a bit decieving. Two of those games came with Brad Johnson at QB. Look at Romo's road record. Look at the way the defense is playing. Look at T. Choice running the ball. If we get in we will be a VERY tough out …IF we get in.
From where I'm sitting:
- MB3 is tough as nails. He adds toughness to the team. BUT both F. Jones and T. Choice are better runners. We will see if they become better running backs, but either way the Dallas running game is in good hands for years to come.
- Patrick Crayton 1 catch, T.O 3 catches, Roy Williams 1 catch… how did Romo have 20 completions again?
- BTW, Roy Williams is a hell of a blocker.
- The defense certainly looks a little different with a healthy T Newman, huh?
- When is the last time a Cowboy LB has had as good a year as Bradie James?


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5/2/12 Orioles at Yankees: Yankee Stadium
As I had told a bunch of people who had asked me prior, I was 99% sure I was not going to this game. My high school baseball team had a game planned for Staten Island at 7:00 that night, but our game had been cancelled at 2:00. You may be thinking that I would be bent on attending the game the instant I got the call telling me our game was cancelled. I wasn't. It was raining most of the day leading up to that point and the thought of going to the Yankee game never crossed my mind, probably because I had so vehemently denied to so many people who I was going to this game.
To give you some context as to my arrival at Yankee Stadium, the gates open at 5:00, which means I usually arrive at the stadium at 4:30, and it takes me approximately 30 minutes to get to Yankee Stadium. Now that I've told you all of this, it was not until 4:08 that it hit me I was now available to go to the game. I knew I was already late for my usual arrival time, so I had to make a quick decision as to whether it was worth my time. It was indeed a quick debate, and the winning argument was, "There's baseball being played and you're going to stay at home and do work? Go to the game, you idiot! The worst that can happen, you get shutout? You only have a 14 game streak, so it wouldn't be that tragic if you did." I bought my ticket and got ready the quickest I ever have for a game, getting out the door by 4:20.
I hopped on the "D" train and was at Gate 6 of Yankee Stadium by 4:50. I thought that another ballhawk would be there, given all that had planned to be there, so I would be able to go with them at the front of the line, but apparently a rainy Yankee Stadium was too scary for everyone but me. Actually, that's not true, even I was worried that it would start raining any minute:
Although I had checked the forecast and it called for a 30% chance of rain at this time, the clouds were rather ominous which made me rather anxious. A bright spot, though, was that the threat of rain had scared off a bunch of regular fans and the line wasn't that long; as you can see from the picture. Normally the line ten minutes before the gate opening time would be at least three times the length it was when I got there.
It had been an absolute downpour in the afternoon, so I was skeptical there would be batting practice, and when I got in the stadium, there wasn't. There was, however, a cage set up:
That meant that either the Yankees had taken bp before we had entered or the Orioles were going to. I asked a camera man nearby if the Yankees had taken bp. When he said, "no" I was ecstatic, because that meant the weather had worked out perfectly so the ballhawks and other fans were driven away, but I would still get batting practice.
That said, the Orioles were still not hitting just yet, so I headed over to foul territory in an attempt to get a ball from one of the position players warming up:
Why do I have an arrow pointing to one of players? That would be Robert Andino. When he finished throwing and started walking to the dugout, I called out and said, "Robert, can you throw me that ball please?" He responded by stopping and saying, "Put down a sign." I signaled back two fingers, and he made sure he was seeing it right by saying, "Is that curveball?" When I confirmed, he started his motion he had been practicing in his session of catch, pumping his leg once more than normal pitchers do and threw me a ball that spun downwards and into my glove.
I then went over closer to the foul pole to try to get a pitcher to toss me a ball:
However, I didn't wait for them to finish their game of catch to ask them for a ball. The Orioles had already started hitting, and I saw Kevin Gregg was picking up baseballs on the warning track; so I ran over to where he was walking and asked him by name to throw me a baseball. Here is the result:
I then situated myself in LF since I figured the other pitchers had seen me get the ball and probably wouldn't toss one of theirs to me.
My next ball came when I saw some righty hit a ball to my right. I ran over to the spot where I thought the ball was going to land and caught it all while pretty much everyone else in the section was frozen still. The following picture displays my route to the ball:
The arrow emanating from the bottom of the picture is my path and the other arrow is the path of the ball. I realize that it is hard to judge depth in a 2D image, but I caught the ball at about stomach height.
This was my third ball of the day, so I immediately looked to give it away:
The boy walking up the stairs was my first candidate since he had a glove on. I asked him if he had gotten a ball already, but surprisingly, he responded "yeah". His father then added, "But we'll take another." I then thought, "Yeaaah, that's not going to happen." Right then, the man leaning over the wall towards the right of the picture asked, "Can I have that ball for my daughter?' Normally I don't give away balls to older people who don't have gloves, but I also didn't want to look like a bad guy for offering a ball to one person and then not giving it to another.
My next ball came off of the bat of Adam Jones. He hit a ball to my left that I could tell right away was going to fall short, but I judged it to be high enough to line up with the ball since it might bounce over the wall off the warning track. That's exactly what happened, and although I didn't catch the ball right off the warning track, it hit in a seat close enough to me where I could pick it up. The following picture shows only the path of the ball:
My next ball was almost exactly like ball #3 (the one I caught on the fly) except I believe I was a row deeper or shallower in the seats. This ball was also caught on the fly, and because I was feeling guilty for giving ball #3 away to a person who both asked me for it and didn't have a glove, I waited until I was on the concourse and made sure to give this ball away to a kid with a glove when I moved over to RF.
Why did I move over to RF, you ask? Right after Adam Jones' group, security cleared out everyone without a ticket for that section. I managed to get one ball while I was there. Chris Davis had been putting on a show in the batting practice of the first game of the series by repeatedly hitting balls into the second deck, so I was more on my toes than usually and was very vocal to the people surrounding me that he would be hitting balls in our direction. As a result, when he hit a ball to my left, I started moving right after it came off his bat. I then realized it was going into the second deck, so I slowed down. I did not, however, give up on the ball. I positioned myself so I would be ready if the ball caromed off the seats and down into the lower level where I was standing. When this happened, I was right next to where the ball fell to and picked it up. Like I mentioned in the previous game's entry, ballhawking is both skill and luck in cases like this. That ball could have easily not have fallen to the lower level and another ball could have been hit back to my right that I would have missed because I was waiting for this ball, but I also could have given up on this ball and someone else could have picked it up instead of me. Anyway, here is the view of the second deck from where I picked up the ball:
Right after I grabbed this ball, I saw a kid running behind me for the ball, and I believe he had a glove on, so I gave him the ball.
That was it for batting practice. I headed up to my ticketed seat in the LF bleachers and talked for a while with an usher who I had been talking to the previous two games as well as a fellow ball-snagger, named Tak, that I've now seen a few times this season, but never saw before. I'll just clarify something, I was in the bleachers while both of them were in the lower level seating. I then abruptly left these two, saying, " I'm going to try to get a ball from the groundskeeper." I then moved over to the bullpen where the groundskeeper was taking down the netting the Yankees install during bp to protect any relievers pitching in the bullpen. When he saw me, the groundskeeper looked up and held up one finger as to say, "Just give me a minute." Right after that, I saw Tak approach the bullpen from the lower level also trying to get a ball. When the groundskeeper was done storing the netting and poles that held it up, he picked up a ball in the bullpen and tossed it to me. Here is my view right as he was about to toss me the ball:
I believe Tak also got a ball from him, but I'm not sure.
After that, the relievers filed in and finally the starting pitcher, Jake Arrieta, came into the bullpen and started preparing for the game. As I was waiting for him to finish up throwing, a fan right next to me started calling out to the coach in the bullpen standing next to Arrieta, saying, "Bill. Mr. Castro. Can you throw me that ball." Upon which I asked him, "Are you asking that guy for the ball?" He then responded, "Yeah, his name is Bill Castro; I looked it up online." If you don't know, Bill Castro is the Orioles bullpen coach, so I can understand why this man would think that the coach in the bullpen would be the bullpen coach. However, as I'll explain in a few seconds, that was incorrect.
Very soon after he said this, Arrieta finished throwing and t was my turn to call out to the coach, so I said, "Rick, can you toss me the ball please?" He then threw me the ball. Why did my request work? Well I'm glad you asked. You see when the starting pitcher goes into the bullpen to warm-up, the pitching coach goes out with him to look at his warm-up pitches. I mean it makes sense, doesn't it? The starting pitchers are completely under the jurisdiction of the pitching coach, so why would the bullpen coach analyze a starting pitchers warm-up. I knew because of this and my recognition of the Orioles' coaching staff that the coach in the bullpen was Rick Adair, the Orioles' pitching coach. Here is the ball with Adair and Arrieta walking in the background:
If you lost track, that was my eighth and final ball of the game.
As for the game, it was a pretty interesting game. The Yankees lost 5-0. Jake Arrieta managed to shut-out the Yankees for five innings and the loss snapped a streak of 15 consecutive wins for Ivan Nova. This is very significant because if he would have won this game, it would have tied him for the Yankees' franchise record.
- 8 Balls at this game (5 pictured because I gave 3 away)
Numbers 244-251 all time for me:
- 29 Balls in 6 games= 4.83 Balls Per Game
- 15 straight games with at least 1 ball
- 6 straight games with at least 2 balls
- 6 straight games with at least 3 balls
- 3 straight games with at least 4 balls
- 8 balls x 39,360 fans= 314,880 Competition Factor
- 43 balls at the New Yankee Stadium in 12 games= 3.58 balls per game
- 12 straight games at the New Yankee Stadium with at least 1 ball
- 4 straight games at the New Yankee Stadium with at least 2 balls
- 4 straight games at the New Yankee Stadium with at least 3 balls
- 3 straight games at the New Yankee Stadium with at least 4 balls
- Time at game 4:49- 10:19= 5 hours 30 minutes
- I thought this would go well with the stats, but I have gone to 6 games this season, seen 3 series', have gone to 2 stadiums, all while only seeing three teams play. I thought it was just kind of interesting.


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1. Introduction
Ext4 is the evolution of the most used Linux filesystem, Ext3. In many ways, Ext4 is a deeper improvement over Ext3 than Ext3 was over Ext2. Ext3 was mostly about adding journaling to Ext2, but Ext4 modifies important data structures of the filesystem such as the ones destined to store the file data. The result is a filesystem with an improved design, better performance, reliability and features.
2. EXT4 features
2.1. Compatibility
Any existing Ext3 filesystem can be migrated to Ext4 with an easy procedure which consists in running a couple of commands in read-only mode (described in the next section). This means that you can improve the performance, storage limits and features of your current filesystems without reformatting and/or reinstalling your OS and software environment. If you need the advantages of Ext4 on a production system, you can upgrade the filesystem. The procedure is safe and doesn't risk your data (obviously, backup of critical data is recommended, even if you aren't updating your filesystem
. Ext4 will use the new data structures only on new data, the old structures will remain untouched and it will be possible to read/modify them when needed. This means, that, of course, that once you convert your filesystem to Ext4 you won't be able to go back to Ext3 again (although there's a possibility, described in the next section, of mounting a Ext3 filesystem with Ext4 without using the new disk format and you'll be able to mount it with Ext3 again, but you lose many of the advantages of Ext4).
2.2. Bigger filesystem/file sizes
Currently, Ext3 support 16 TB of maximum filesystem size, and 2 TB of maximum file size. Ext4 adds 48-bit block addressing, so it will have 1 EB of maximum filesystem size and 16 TB of maximum file size. 1 EB = 1,048,576 TB (1 EB = 1024 PB, 1 PB = 1024 TB, 1 TB = 1024 GB). Why 48-bit and not 64-bit? There are some limitations that would need to be fixed before making Ext4 fully 64-bit capable, which have not been addressed in Ext4. The Ext4 data structures have been designed keeping this in mind, so a future update to Ext4 will implement full 64-bit support at some point. 1 EB will be enough (really
) until that happens. (Note: The code to create filesystems bigger than 16 TB is -at the time of writing this article- not in any stable release of e2fsprogs. It will be in future releases.)
2.3. Sub directory scalability
Right now the maximum possible number of sub directories contained in a single directory in Ext3 is 32000. Ext4 breaks that limit and allows a unlimited number of sub directories.
2.4. Extents
The traditionally Unix-derived filesystems like Ext3 use a indirect block mapping scheme to keep track of each block used for the blocks corresponding to the data of a file. This is inefficient for large files, specially on large file delete and truncate operations, because the mapping keeps a entry for every single block, and big files have many blocks -> huge mappings, slow to handle. Modern filesystems use a different approach called "extents". An extent is basically a bunch of contiguous physical blocks. It basically says "The data is in the next n blocks". For example, a 100 MB file can be allocated into a single extent of that size, instead of needing to create the indirect mapping for 25600 blocks (4 KB per block). Huge files are split in several extents. Extents improve the performance and also help to reduce the fragmentation, since an extent encourages continuous layouts on the disk.
2.5. Multiblock allocation
When Ext3 needs to write new data to the disk, there's a block allocator that decides which free blocks will be used to write the data. But the Ext3 block allocator only allocates one block (4KB) at a time. That means that if the system needs to write the 100 MB data mentioned in the previous point, it will need to call the block allocator 25600 times (and it was just 100 MB!). Not only this is inefficient, it doesn't allow the block allocator to optimize the allocation policy because it doesn't knows how many total data is being allocated, it only knows about a single block. Ext4 uses a "multiblock allocator" (mballoc) which allocates many blocks in a single call, instead of a single block per call, avoiding a lot of overhead. This improves the performance, and it's particularly useful with delayed allocation and extents. This feature doesn't affect the disk format. Also, note that the Ext4 block/inode allocator has other improvements, described in detail in this paper.
2.6. Delayed allocation
Delayed allocation is a performance feature (it doesn't change the disk format) found in a few modern filesystems such as XFS, ZFS, btrfs or Reiser 4, and it consists in delaying the allocation of blocks as much as possible, contrary to what traditionally filesystems (such as Ext3, reiser3, etc) do: allocate the blocks as soon as possible. For example, if a process write()s, the filesystem code will allocate immediately the blocks where the data will be placed - even if the data is not being written right now to the disk and it's going to be kept in the cache for some time. This approach has disadvantages. For example when a process is writing continually to a file that grows, successive write()s allocate blocks for the data, but they don't know if the file will keep growing. Delayed allocation, on the other hand, does not allocate the blocks immediately when the process write()s, rather, it delays the allocation of the blocks while the file is kept in cache, until it is really going to be written to the disk. This gives the block allocator the opportunity to optimize the allocation in situations where the old system couldn't. Delayed allocation plays very nicely with the two previous features mentioned, extents and multiblock allocation, because in many workloads when the file is written finally to the disk it will be allocated in extents whose block allocation is done with the mballoc allocator. The performance is much better, and the fragmentation is much improved in some workloads.
2.7. Fast fsck
Fsck is a very slow operation, especially the first step: checking all the inodes in the file system. In Ext4, at the end of each group's inode table will be stored a list of unused inodes (with a checksum, for safety), so fsck will not check those inodes. The result is that total fsck time improves from 2 to 20 times, depending on the number of used inodes (http://kerneltrap.org/Linux/Improving_fsck_Speeds_in_Ext4). It must be noticed that it's fsck, and not Ext4, who will build the list of unused inodes. This means that you must run fsck to get the list of unused inodes built, and only the next fsck run will be faster (you need to pass a fsck in order to convert a Ext3 filesystem to Ext4 anyway). There's also a feature that takes part in this fsck speed up - "flexible block groups" - that also speeds up filesystem operations.
2.8. Journal checksumming
The journal is the most used part of the disk, making the blocks that form part of it more prone to hardware failure. And recovering from a corrupted journal can lead to massive corruption. Ext4 checksums the journal data to know if the journal blocks are failing or corrupted. But journal checksumming has a bonus: it allows one to convert the two-phase commit system of Ext3's journaling to a single phase, speeding the filesystem operation up to 20% in some cases - so reliability and performance are improved at the same time. (Note: the part of the feature that improves the performance, the asynchronous logging, is turned off by default for no, and will be enabled in future releases, when its reliability improves)
2.9. "No Journaling" mode
Journaling ensures the integrity of the filesystem by keeping a log of the ongoing disk changes. However, it is know to have a small overhead. Some people with special requirements and workloads can run without a journal and its integrity advantages. In Ext4 the journaling feature can be disabled, which provides a small performance improvement.
2.10. Online defragmentation
(This feature is being developed and will be included in future releases). While delayed allocation, extents and multiblock allocation help to reduce the fragmentation, with usage filesystems can still fragment. For example: You write three files in a directory and continually on the disk. Some day you need to update the file of the middle, but the updated file has grown a bit, so there's not enough room for it. You have no option but fragment the excess of data to another place of the disk, which will cause a seek, or allocate the updated file continually in another place, far from the other two files, resulting in seeks if an application needs to read all the files on a directory (say, a file manager doing thumbnails on a directory full of images). Besides, the filesystem can only care about certain types of fragmentation, it can't know, for example, that it must keep all the boot-related files contiguous, because it doesn't know which files are boot-related. To solve this issue, Ext4 will support online fragmentation, and there's a e4defrag tool which can defragment individual files or the whole filesystem.
2.11. Inode-related features
Larger inodes, nanosecond timestamps, fast extended attributes, inodes reservation...
Larger inodes: Ext3 supports configurable inode sizes (via the -I mkfs parameter), but the default inode size is 128 bytes. Ext4 will default to 256 bytes. This is needed to accommodate some extra fields (like nanosecond timestamps or inode versioning), and the remaining space of the inode will be used to store extend attributes that are small enough to fit it that space. This will make the access to those attributes much faster, and improves the performance of applications that use extend attributes by a factor of 3-7 times.
Inode reservation consists in reserving several inodes when a directory is created, expecting that they will be used in the future. This improves the performance, because when new files are created in that directory they'll be able to use the reserved inodes. File creation and deletion is hence more efficient.
Nanoseconds timestamps means that inode fields like "modified time" will be able to use nanosecond resolution instead of the second resolution of Ext3.
2.12. Persistent preallocation
This feature, available in Ext3 in the latest kernel versions, and emulated by glibc in the filesystems that don't support it, allows applications to preallocate disk space: Applications tell the filesystem to preallocate the space, and the filesystem preallocates the necessary blocks and data structures, but there's no data on it until the application really needs to write the data in the future. This is what P2P applications do in their own when they "preallocate" the necessary space for a download that will last hours or days, but implemented much more efficiently by the filesystem and with a generic API. This have several uses: first, to avoid applications (like P2P apps) doing it themselves inefficiently by filling a file with zeros. Second, to improve fragmentation, since the blocks will be allocated at one time, as contiguously as possible. Third, to ensure that applications has always the space they know they will need, which is important for RT-ish applications, since without preallocation the filesystem could get full in the middle of an important operation. The feature is available via the libc posix_fallocate() interface.
2.13. Barriers on by default
This is an option that improves the integrity of the filesystem at the cost of some performance (you can disable it with "mount -o barrier=0", recommended trying it if you're benchmarking). From this LWN article: "The filesystem code must, before writing the [journaling] commit record, be absolutely sure that all of the transaction's information has made it to the journal. Just doing the writes in the proper order is insufficient; contemporary drives maintain large internal caches and will reorder operations for better performance. So the filesystem must explicitly instruct the disk to get all of the journal data onto the media before writing the commit record; if the commit record gets written first, the journal may be corrupted. The kernel's block I/O subsystem makes this capability available through the use of barriers; in essence, a barrier forbids the writing of any blocks after the barrier until all blocks written before the barrier are committed to the media. By using barriers, filesystems can make sure that their on-disk structures remain consistent at all times."
3. How to use Ext4
This is the first stable version of Ext4, so even if the whole development and release of this filesystems has been slowed down and delayed a lot to guarantee the same level of stability that you'd expect from the current Ext3 implementation, the usual rules of any ".0" software apply.
One very important thing to keep in mind is that there is NOT Ext4 GRUB support. Well, that wasn't exactly true: There is grub support, but it's not very spread in the currently available distros. There's ext4 support in the GRUB2 development branch, but since GRUB2 is not stable, most of distros are using the 0.9x versions.
There are available grub2 packages in Ubuntu and debian-derived distros as the grub-pc package. In the 0.9x branch, there's not official support, but there's a Google SoC project that developed support for it, and Google finds patches. So choose yourself. The next release of distros based in Linux 2.6.28 will probably have support in one way or another. The safe option is to keep your /boot directory in a partition formatted with Ext3.
You also need an updated e2fsprogs tool, of course, the latest stable version -1.41.3- is recommended.
NOTE: At least in debian-derived distros, including Ubuntu, converting your filesystem to Ext4 when using a initramfs results into a non-booting system, apparently even when you enable the "ext4dev compatibility" option". The problem is that the fstype klibc utility detects the ext4 filesystem as ext3, and tries to mount it as ext3, and fails. The fix is to pass the "rootfstype=ext4" option (without the quotes) in the kernel command line.
Switching to Ext4 it's very easy. There are three different ways you can use to switch:
3.1. Creating a new Ext4 filesystem from the scratch
The easiest one, recommended for new installations. Just update your e2fsprogs package to Ext4, and create the filesystem with mkfs.ext4.
3.2. Migrate existing Ext3 filesystems to Ext4
You need to use the tune2fs and fsck tools in the filesystem, and that filesystem needs to be unmounted. Run:
tune2fs -O extents,uninit_bg,dir_index /dev/yourfilesystem
After running this command you MUST run fsck. If you don't do it, Ext4 WILL NOT MOUNT your filesystem. This fsck run is needed to return the filesystem to a consistent state. It WILL tell you that it finds checksum errors in the group descriptors - it's expected, and it's exactly what it needs to be rebuilt to be able to mount it as Ext4, so don't get surprised by them. Since each time it finds one of those errors it asks you what to do, always say YES. If you don't want to be asked, add the "-p" parameter to the fsck command, it means "automatic repair":
fsck -pf /dev/yourfilesystem
There's another thing that must be mentioned. All your existing files will continue using the old indirect mapping to map all the blocks of data. The online defrag tool will be able to migrate each one of those files to a extent format (using a ioctl that tells the filesystem to rewrite the file with the extent format; you can use it safely while you're using the filesystem normally)
3.3. Mount an existing Ext3 filesystem with Ext4 without changing the format
You can mount an existing Ext3 filesystem with Ext4 but without using features that change the disk format. This means you will be able to mount your filesystem with Ext3 again. You can mount an existing Ext3 filesystem with "mount -t ext4 /dev/yourpartition /mnt". Doing this without having done the conversion process described in the previous point will force Ext4 to not use the features that change the disk format, such as extents, it will use only the features that don't change the file format, such as mballoc or delayed allocation. You'll be able to mount your filesystem as Ext3 again. But obviously you'll be losing the advantages of the Ext4 features that don't get used...
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Hey ttuuxxx
bit surprised at the lack of posts on this
by way of update info, ext4 is now part of the new 2.6.28 kernel, and a patch has already been issued
The 2.6.26-ext4-7 patchset has been released. People who are using ext4 wih 2.6.26 should really take this patch.
another useful site is:-
.....and some useful Q&A here:-
Like all launches, ext4 is not without problems though.....
Updated Kernel adds more fixes & another new FS
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k2.6.29 has unjournaled Ext4 - much faster.
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Is the gparted on pupy4.2 deepthought using ext4?
When I first partitioned my hard drive a month ago (first partition experience ever) I didn't know what the terms meant, so i selected ext2, now I wish I'd done ext3, though I probably wouldn't notice the difference from a practical standpoint. should we be switching to 4 already?
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steve-in-brazil wrote:
Is the gparted on pupy4.2 deepthought using ext4?
When I first partitioned my hard drive a month ago (first partition experience ever) I didn't know what the terms meant, so i selected ext2, now I wish I'd done ext3, though I probably wouldn't notice the difference from a practical standpoint. should we be switching to 4 already?
4.2 Gparted doesn't have ext4, That will be a small stumbling block in the future because the latest Gparted uses a lot more Gnome libs then before. Also the kernel has to be patched and also the current kernel in 4.2 can't use ext4, only the latest series kernel can. That will probably be a part of 5.0 series, since we'll need a new kernel, patches, and some sort of way of using it. Parted live also has ext4 in gparted, parted live is a live Linux distro made for disk partitioning.
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new reply - old post. I see my file system is ext2. Is that ok? should it be ext3 or 4? Can I do a conversion with a full install of puppy? In Windoze, changing the file system can cause loss of data, etc. Is there an easy conversion? Should I even bother? I did hear that if puppy gets shut down unexpectedly in ext3 or 4 then it doesn't always require running fsck. Is that true? Is there a benefit with speed for example on one of the newer fs's? Journalling. Not too sure what that's about...
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4.2 Gparted doesn't have ext4, That will be a small stumbling block in the future because the latest Gparted uses a lot more Gnome libs then before. Also the kernel has to be patched and also the current kernel in 4.2 can't use ext4, only the latest series kernel can. That will probably be a part of 5.0 series, since we'll need a new kernel, patches, and some sort of way of using it. Parted live also has ext4 in gparted, parted live is a live Linux distro made for disk partitioning.
Latest Gparted has vastly improved create, move, copy, resize, check, label, and delete partitions for a larger number of filesystems, including ext4
GParted Live can be installed on CD, USB, PXE server, and Hard Disk then run on an x86 machine.
Performance comparison of ext2, 3, & 4 here
ext3's main advantage over ext2 is journaling [a form of built-in log] which improves reliability and eliminates the need to check the file system after an unclean shutdown. Some users find errors creeping into their pupsaves using ext2, others don't, so unless you have shutdown problems or errors, I wouldn't worry about it. Wait till ext4 is implemented by Barry
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new reply - old post. I see my file system is ext2. Is that ok? should it be ext3 or 4? Can I do a conversion with a full install of puppy? In Windoze, changing the file system can cause loss of data, etc. Is there an easy conversion? Should I even bother? I did hear that if puppy gets shut down unexpectedly in ext3 or 4 then it doesn't always require running fsck. Is that true? Is there a benefit with speed for example on one of the newer fs's? Journalling. Not too sure what that's about...
puppy 5 series is really the first that included fsck enabled check as default. Actually it saved my ext3 file system, I usually run 2 series (2.14X) live, and just do a cold shutdown, I've done this hundreds of times with no file system malfunctions what so ever. But about 4 months ago I had one, All my files that I saved on my hard drive weren't assessable we are talking hundreds of gig's, years of stuff. I was pretty nervous that 2.14X couldn't open any of the partitions. But then I remembered that Barry added fsck to Wary, So I figured why not try it, So I made a pupsave on another hard drive with Wary, and booted with the pupsave then did a cold shutdown and rebooted, Wary then did a system check using fsck and BOOM just like that all my files/partitions were back, excellent, I then took a spare 500gb drive I had laying around and made a backup of the files.
So as ext2,3,4 goes, really only puppy 5 has ext4 capabilities, A couple of 4 series releases did have it but most of 4 series was strictly ext 2,3.
If you are only ever going to use series 5 then stick with ext4, If you plan on using, trying out older/newer releases, 2,3,4,5 series then use ext3, really I only use ext3 for all puppy series.
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If you have any 4.xx puppies you won't be able to mount the
5.xx drives that have ext4 format from them.
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Actually ttuuxxx and rjbrewer, FWIW ext4 support was introduced with puppy 4.3 or 4.31, but the ever popular early 4 series didn't have it.
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Actually ttuuxxx and rjbrewer, FWIW ext4 support was introduced with puppy 4.3 or 4.31, but the ever popular early 4 series didn't have it.
Thats what I said, sort of kind of
A couple of 4 series releases did have it but most of 4 series was strictly ext 2,3.
Also a few others like pupeee which was 4 series, etc.
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Older thread, same question...
Still ext3...
Worth looking @ yet????
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Actually ttuuxxx and rjbrewer, FWIW ext4 support was introduced with puppy 4.3 or 4.31, but the ever popular early 4 series didn't have it.
People were too busy trying to sort out the 128 - 256 inode
partition problems.
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I am glad someone posted in this old thread so I was able to run across it, interesting read.
I knew ext4 is the latest and greatest, but did not know what it's advantages were till now.
I am wandering if anyone can tell me how it compares to XFS on large files.
The reason I ask is I have ran ext2, then later ext3 for root with a large XFS partition on my DVR (MythTV) for video storage since I built it years ago with Fedora Core 2. XFS has been blazing fast deleting large (2G+) files. It is time to do the "Fedora two step" and upgrade again and I was thinking about switching distros. I was happily surprised that I was able to install the front end in lupu-5.25 with out many problems (using ubuntu repo) and thinking that it may be time to try Puppy on it. I had built a puppy version from source a while back, but it was glitchy as it has so many dependencies. (MySQL, at the time QT3, IVTV drivers, LIRC, and on and on)
But back to the point - would it make sense to use ext4 over XFS from now on for better performance and future stability?
Of course there is the problem of 500G+ of files, spread over 2 drives, that I would have to move, unless there is a way to convert XFS -> ext4 ????? Any one know?
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Have a look here -
[note: 2008 test date; ext4 has been updated from ext4dev]
xfs is very slow on small file operations while ext3 is very slow
on large file operations.
There's also JFS [it may be 64bit...? check] which has been used for mythTV boxes
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Update (7/16): On July 9, Media Matters reported on speculation that Fox News contributor Liz Cheney would enter the Wyoming Senate race. The Associated Press is now reporting that Cheney will challenge Sen. Mike Enzi in the Republican primary next year. Based on precedent, this should mark the end of Cheney's tenure as a Fox News contributor.
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The New York Times reported this weekend that Fox News contributor Liz Cheney's potential run for the U.S. Senate in Wyoming "threatens to start a civil war within the state's Republican establishment." According to the Times, because the seat is currently held by the reliably conservative Michael Enzi, any primary challenge by Cheney could cause serious conflict within the state's GOP.
A run by Cheney -- who is merely the latest in a long line of Fox News figures to use a job at the network to help position for a possible run for office -- could also set up an interesting fight within Fox itself, pitting the contributor and her allies against former Bush administration colleague Karl Rove.
Rove is helping lead the Conservative Victory Project, which the Times reported in February will seek to "recruit seasoned candidates and protect Senate incumbents from challenges by far-right conservatives and Tea Party enthusiasts." That definition appears to fit Enzi, an incumbent that, per the The National Journal, "has been a reliable stalwart for the political right--his lifetime rating from the American Conservative Union through 2010 was above 93%, one of the highest among senators." In a December 2010 appearance on The O'Reilly Factor, Rove praised Enzi as "a very sensible Republican" and highlighted his past efforts to reach across the aisle.
Any move by Rove's group to oppose Cheney's run is likely to lead to withering criticism from their Fox colleagues. Fox contributors Katie Pavlich, Jedediah Bila, and Richard Grenell have all voiced their support for a Cheney run, with Grenell asking, "where do I send my Liz Cheney for Senate Check?"
Other Fox figures heavily criticized the Rove group when news of its existence first surfaced. Fox host Mike Huckabee accused Rove's "absolutely repulsive" group of engaging in "fratricide"; frequent Fox guest and popular radio host Mark Levin labeled Rove a "propagandist"; Fox contributor Erick Erickson suggested that any candidate supported by Rove's group "should be targeted for destruction."
Liz Cheney joined the chorus during an interview on Fox host Andrea Tantaros' radio program. Cheney, who explained that she considers Rove a good friend and admires him, nonetheless said that she has "some problems and I haven't talked to Karl directly, but just based on the news reports, I don't like the idea that we're going to have an outside group coming in and determining who ought to be the candidate in a primary."
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Cheney's Senate run has also come up during her on-air appearances. In May 2012, Fox News Sunday host Chris Wallace asked Cheney if she is "considering running for the Senate from Wyoming." In response, Cheney praised the state, mentioned how she was "honored to have been asked to help the Republican Party" there, but evaded the question. Wallace told viewers, "let me tell you folks, to be continued."
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