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The prolific Marvel Comics letterer Gets His Mustache On, and tells us about his new comic book, The Further Travels of Wyatt Earp!
The last time we spoke to Joe Caramagna, he was knee-deep in not only lettering many Marvel Comics, but also writing a series of Young Reader Novels starring Spider-Man, the first of which was picked up by Scholastic and is sold at their book fairs nationwide. Caramagna (pronounced "like lasagna") is still lettering comics and still writing the Spider-Man Young Reader Novels, but today he's announcing a brand new project, entitled The Further Travels of Wyatt Earp. Promoted with a teaser campaign entitled Get Your Mustache On, The Further Travels of Wyatt Earp promises to take a look at what we don't know about the famous lawman's life after that one pivotal moment with which he's become synonymous. Caramagna is launching a Kickstarter to fund the project, and he found some time while manning his table in Artist's Alley at New York Comic-Con to talk to The Outhouse about his new venture, his place in Marvel NOW!, and why he's ok with doing things that don't make him any money.
The Outhouse (OH): How has the Con been for you?
Joe Caramagna (JC): It's great. A couple of years ago, I stopped trying to sell things because I didn't like trying to be a salesman. Still don't. It's a lot more fun to give people free stuff. I like calling people over, they come and we chat about comics, and I just give them free stuff and don't pressure them to buy something of mine. My friends [also at the table] are selling stuff. People will bring me comics to sign, and it's kind of cool that I'm helping my friends sell their stuff and people can get their stuff signed by me. Letterers aren't in that high demand, but you'd be surprised because they want to get the complete team on the cover. There are a lot of people who do that. Anything to bring traffic here for my buddies.
OH: You always hear that working in comics is a solitary pursuit, but you're part of a studio...
JC: I am, but we don't actually work together. We're all over the country. It's Chris Eliopolous' studio, Virtual Calligraphy. I actually live very close to Chris. He's about ten minutes away, so we get together and have lunch and stuff all the time. Yeah, but the other guys: one is in Rochester, another one is in Brooklyn, there's another Jersey guy, but he doesn't live as close as I do. Chris is from Jersey, and that's sort of our general area. I do enjoy my alone time. I have no co-workers, I'm sitting in a room by myself. It's fun to come out and do things like this, actually, and get together with my friends because, you know, we keep long hours as letterers, so I don't really get a lot of time to get out and hang out with my buddies, so these events are awesome. I love going to conventions. I love talking comics, hanging out with my friends, no pressure because I'm not selling anything [laughs].
OH: Some of the creators here were a little unsure of Artist's Alley being so far away from the rest of the show because they were afraid they wouldn't be able to sell as much. By giving stuff away, you seem to have found a way around that.
JC: [laughs] Yeah! There are plusses and minusses to Artist's Alley being all the way out here. On one hand, you're not getting the crazy crowds from the Show Floor, but on the other hand those crazy crowds last year cluttered up Artist's Alley so much that people couldn't stop and browse. They always had to keep moving to keep the aisles clear, so people didn't really get a chance to stop, so that worked against it too. There are plusses and minusses to it. I hear yesterday was a little slow, but today [Saturday] it's pretty full in here. I can't really complain.
OH: Let's talk about your new project, which you're teasing here.
JC: It's called The Further Travels of Wyatt Earp. It's about, obviously, Wyatt Earp. What most people know about Wyatt Earp comes from the movies, like Tombstone, and the Kevin Costner movie. Those movies end with what Wyatt's most famous for, which is The Gunfight at the OK Corrall, but that happened when he was thirty-two years old, in 1881. Wyatt didn't die until he was eighty, so he lived on for fifty years in the West, and people don't really tell that story. I was reading up on it and found out that after he left law enforcement, after he left Tombstone, Arizona, he travelled the West looking for gold. He became a gold miner, and he was just in search of his fortune and glory. He was just trying to strike it big. He would travel from mining town to mining town and he had all sorts of different jobs. He was a horse racer, he was a card dealer, he was a boxing referee [laughs]. At the end of his life, he actually worked in Hollywood as a consultant on silent westerns. So he did all these great things that people don't really know about, and it's very strange because he's known as being this Old West gunslinger, and he did all these wild things.
My book is about what his life might have been like at all different stages after Tombstone, Arizona. The first issue takes place in Idaho, the second one takes place in San Francisco. It's historical fiction, but it's based on his real travels. The places and the times are accurate. The stuff that's public record is accurate, and I fill in all those blanks with my own details of what his life might have been like as someone who was nationally famous, but in the pre-TMZ era, pre-TV, pre-internet, all they had was newspapers. All these stories were told secondhand. He didn't really want to bother with the press, even though he was nationally famous. All the stuff we know about that time was told to reporters by his enemies, or people he knew...he never really got to tell his own story. So this is what his life might have been like all those years.
It's digital only. It's not going to be printed. The only way to get a print copy is to be a Kickstarter backer. I'm going to print special Kickstarter backer editions of the book with all kinds of notes and pages of the script included and all kinds of fun stuff. Otherwise, it'll be on sale on iTunes...I'll announce it when it's ready to go. Right now we're pushing the Kickstarter campaign to get funded so I can pay my team that's putting it together for me. I'm not getting a penny of it, but I have to pay the guys who are taking time away from their work – their real paying work – to do this for me, so we really have to push this campaign. I can use all the help I can get. Anything to help spread the word is fantastic!
OH: Talk about the creative team you're working with.
JC: The artist is Scott Koblish. He's worked for Marvel, DC, and he works for Disney Publishing currently. He was the inker on the recent OMAC series, for the New 52. Actually, I write a series of Spider-Man Young Reader Novels, and Scott illustrated some of them, so you can look for that too. The work he's doing on this book is phenomenal. I've always been a fan of Scott's work, and I thought he was going to say no when I asked him to do it, but he said yes, and I'm so pleased. Everytime I do any writing work, he's always my first choice, to draw it, and he's either busy or editorial has someone else in mind, so I'm so happy that he was able to do this Wyatt Earp comic for me.
My colorist is Andrew Edge, he's a friend of mine, going back to school; we were classmates. He's a phenomenal painter, and he has a lot of experience doing color, and his colors are great. If you go on the Kickstarter, you can see some of his color over Scott's work. Our book designer is Melissa Horvath-Plyman, who's a friend of mine from years ago, we actually went to elementary school together. She designs my book, she designed the logo, and she's fantastic. That's her job, her profession, so I was happy that she was able to do this in the very little spare time that she has too. So I'm very lucky that all my friends are able to do these things for me. It's a real labor of love, so hopefully that shows through in the final product. I think it does. I hope all of you can see it too.
OH: So you're giving away stuff for free here, you're not making money off the Kickstarter so...
JC: [laughs] So how do I feed my family? Is that where this is going? By lettering lots of comics and writing stuff for Marvel.
OH: I can see why you letter so much.
JC: Yeah, exactly! [laughs] I'm writing a series of Spider-Man Young Reader Novels. The first one is Spider-Man: Behind the Mask, that's been out for a while. It's been picked up by Scholastic, and it's being sold at the Scholastic Book Fairs nationwide. The second book and third book, which are Vulture and Dr. Octopus are on sale now also. Dr. Octopus was actually illustrated by Tim Seeley, so comic book fans will love that. You can get it for your kid, but then you can see Tim Seeley draw J. Jonah Jameson and Spider-Man and Dr. Octopus, so it's a plus. The fourth book comes out Mid-November, and it's called Sandman, and it's illustrated by Scott Koblish. I also have an issue of Marvel Universe: Ultimate Spider-Man coming out November 28. It's issue #8, and it's Spider-Man versus a fire-breathing dragon. And I letter a ton of comics. That's how I feed my family. That's how I'm able to give away comics for free at the table. [laughs]
OH: What will you be lettering for the Marvel NOW! relaunch?
JC: I'm not sure what hasn't been announced but...I'm doing Captain America and Iron Man. I'm on the Avengers: Arena book. I'm sticking with the books that I have been doing. Even though they're moving into the Marvel NOW! era, I'm sticking with most of what I was doing before. It should be fun. I hope everyone's excited for it, because I am. I've read some of the issues, and they're fantastic.


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Major revisions make previous Five Hundred vastly superior.
Ford had little success with its large, front-drive family sedan called the Ford Five Hundred since its introduction two years ago. So, for 2008, Ford dumped the Five Hundred name and went back to the name of a clear market winner, renaming this car the 2008 Ford Taurus.
Likewise, the Mercury Montego has been renamed Mercury Sable, and the Ford Freestyle has been renamed Taurus X, the X for crossover SUV.
Along the way, Ford has made some 500 changes to the new Taurus, changes that were already scheduled for the mid-cycle freshening of the Five Hundred. The general body shape of the new Taurus is the same as that of the previous Five Hundred, a large, front-wheel-drive family sedan, but almost everything else has changed for the better.
This family of vehicles, loosely based on the same architecture as the Volvo S80 luxury sedans with some detail changes to the suspension systems, also uses the same Swedish Haldex all-wheel-drive system as the Volvo when it is ordered as an option.
The weak 3.0-liter V6 engine has been dropped in favor of a new 3.5-liter, 24-valve V6 engine that makes a full 30 percent more power. It's the same engine that powers the larger and heavier Ford Edge and Lincoln MKX crossovers and MKZ luxury cars. Likewise, the CVT transmission has been replaced by a new 6F six-speed automatic.
This new powertrain makes the Taurus a whole lot more fun to drive than the ill-conceived Five Hundred was. Its 0-60 mph acceleration performance has been reduced by more than a second and a half, from 9.2 seconds down to 7.6 seconds, which is a huge chunk of performance. The new engine not only makes more power, it gets 10 percent better fuel economy, even after adjusting for the new, stricter testing procedures EPA has mandated for 2008 models. On the open road, we found the Taurus to be very quiet and smooth.
Taurus competes directly against other larger sedans on the market, chief among them the Toyota Avalon, the Chevrolet Impala, and the Chrysler 300. Against that competitive set, the Taurus is the largest car in the group, and carries four five-star safety ratings for front, rear, side and rollover crashworthiness. The big kicker in all of this is that, with all the new styling, interior, engine, transmission and standard features upgrades, the price hovers only about $250 above comparably equipped versions of last year's bland, slow Five Hundred.
The 2008 Ford Taurus features two models, SEL ($23,245) and Limited ($26,845). Each is available with front-wheel drive or all-wheel drive, called SEL AWD ($25,095) and Limited AWD ($28,695). Taurus comes as a four-door sedan; the Taurus X is the wagon variant.
Options include a convenience package with a universal remote control, reverse sensing system, a cargo net and memory adjustable pedals ($475); a wood package ($195); a DVD entertainment system ($995); AdvanceTrac electronic stability control ($495); moonroof ($895); voice-activated DVD navigation ($1995); 18-inch chrome wheels ($695); engine block heater ($35); and Sirius Satellite Radio ($195).
Safety features include front, side and curtain airbags, ABS, and traction control. Electronic stability control is an option. With its Volvo-like crash structure and features, the new Taurus has been awarded a Top Safety Pick by the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS).
The 2008 Ford Taurus is a much, much better looking car than the Five Hundred, kind of reminiscent of the Lincoln Town Car in a smaller size.
In the transition from Five Hundred to Taurus, Ford completely redesigned the front end, with a large three-bar horizontal grille that fits in better with the Ford family look of the existing Fusion, the Edge, and the coming Flex. It's altogether a better looking and more contemporary design for the grille, with new, quieter mirrors, gigantic new headlamp units, big driving lamps under the new bumpers, with necessary changes to the hood and fenders. Decorative, nonfunctional gills have been added to the front fenders to add visual interest and take up some space on the huge fenders.
Likewise, the taillamps, rear quarter panels and decklid have been redone, and the rear bumper has been rejiggered to feature exposed dual exhaust tips.
We found the 2008 Taurus a very pleasant car to be in. It offers a nice, high seating position, with excellent outward vision in all directions, very comfortable and supportive bucket seats, and instruments and controls that were easy to look at and easy to use. The navigation system was a snap to learn and use.
The most noticeable interior feature of the new Ford Taurus is the sheer size of the space inside the car, 108 cubic feet inside, with a 21 cubic-foot trunk, according to EPA measurements, making it by far the largest interior in the class at 129 cubic feet total.
With folding rear seats and a flat-folding right front seat, you can put a nine-foot-long object inside the car. After you notice the space and the limo-like rear-seat accommodations, you then begin to notice that every piece in the interior, the instruments, controls, shifter, seats, console, and dashboard, has been redesigned, with a more luxurious feel and lots more chrome trim here and there. They've added a plug for an MP3 player inside the center console as standard equipment.
The Motorola Sync system offers integration with all Bluetooth-enabled phones and music players, including iPods, via electronic and USB 2.0 connections. Sync features include the ability to have text messages read aloud, voice recognition for control of both phone and music functions, and phonebook transfer. The system is upgradeable for future players and for additional functionality down the road. Sync will be offered on Taurus and 11 other 2008 Ford, Lincoln, and Mercury vehicles later this year.
A Taurus Limited AWD we drove was loaded with options, including AdvanceTrac electronic stability control, a roof-mounted rear-seat DVD entertainment system, heated front seats, convenience package, wood package, power adjustable pedals, a moonroof, voice-activated touch-screen navigation, Sirius satellite radio, and reverse sensing system, bringing the bottom line to $33,600, and making it the best-equipped Taurus possible, short of the 18-inch chromed aluminum wheel option.
Driving Impression
The new engine and transmission in the 2008 Ford Taurus are a wonderful team. The engine is extremely quiet and smooth at idle, and uses a pendulum mounting system that effectively separates its motions and vibrations from the rest of the car. It sounds healthy, powerful and smooth at full throttle, makes the car plenty quick in acceleration and passing situations, and settles down to a nice background hum in sixth gear, as it should. At freeway speeds, the Taurus is very, very quiet inside.
We spent in inordinate amount of time at full-throttle with the new Taurus because it's so much fun to wind up in the lower gears; the old Five Hundred was just slow. We did a 0-100-0 run with an ABS panic brake stop at 100 mph, and we were suitably impressed with the way this car accelerates from rest and brakes from high speeds.
With traction control and optional AdvanceTrac electronic stability control, the computers take over whenever you try to do anything foolish, to keep the car flat and stable. The steering is accurate, with good feedback, and not overly assisted in normal and highway driving. The ride is soft and compliant, with some body roll in the fast corners and a noticeable upward pitch of the front end on hard acceleration.
The new Ford Taurus has about as much useful room inside it, counting the trunk, the folding seats, and the interior layout, as your average crossover SUV. It just happens to look and behave like a family sedan. It's big inside, big outside, and it's taller than almost every other sedan on the market with that big bubble roof, but if it's room you need and room you want, this might be the one. It won't outrun a Chrysler 300 Hemi, but it's quicker than almost everything else in the class, and at these prices, we think it's a real bargain.
NewCarTestDrive.com correspondent Jim McCraw filed this report from Dearborn, Michigan.
Model Lineup
Ford Taurus SEL ($23,245); SEL AWD ($25,095); Limited ($26,845); Limited AWD ($28,695).
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Options As Tested
DVD navigation system ($1995); convenience package ($475); DVD entertainment system ($995); AdvanceTrac ESC ($495); Sirius Satellite Radio ($195).
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Ford Taurus Limited AWD ($28,695).The new 2008 Ford Taurus is a refreshed and rebadged Ford Five Hundred with a new, more powerful engine for even better value. The front-wheel or all-wheel drive Taurus includes a new 263 hp 3.5-liter V6 engine and six speed automatic transmission for improved power and fuel economy. It also gets a new chrome grille, new tail lamps and rear fascia, new chrome exterior accents and mirrors, better sound insulation, and revisions to the suspension. Ford's industry exclusive new Sync hands-free communications and entertainment system is included on Limited, optional on SEL. Safety features include seat-mounted side airbags for the front seats and Safety Canopy side-curtain airbags. AdvanceTrac® electronic stability control is available. For 2008, the Ford Taurus is a return to a well known nameplate, carried over from the 2007 Ford Five Hundred.
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Jack Layton stretches before his morning jog.
First off, I appreciate the partisan strategic significance of putting the "squeeze" on the Liberals. Given the polls, the circumstance, the Liberals are hardly itching for an election. In fact, I suspect we would do almost anything to avoid going to the polls at this moment in time. With the obvious, well obvious, the NDP braintrust returns to an old strategy, that requires historical amnesia, but hey why not?:
Mr. Layton argued there was "no way" Prime Minister Stephen Harper would allow his government to fall ahead of next month's G8 and G20 summits, and so would be forced to negotiate with a united opposition.
"The opposition has the opportunity to do some tough bargaining with Mr. Harper right now," Mr. Layton told The Canadian Press.
"But for that to happen, Mr. Ignatieff has got to be a real Opposition leader."
Mr. Layton accused the Liberal Leader of lacking "back-bone" in light of fears that defeating the bill would bring down Harper's minority Conservative government and trigger an election Canadians don't want.
Oh, the "backbone" attack. Particularly hurtful, given that Layton turned into a squid last fall, the MOMENT he lost his Liberal security blanket. It seems "backbone" is a meandering condition, when one has it, others don't, and vice versa. Again, kudos on the aggressive strategy, but nobody should delude themselves into actually arguing on principle, or citing the specifics as though a genuine manifestation.
The funniest part for me, Layton contradicts himself, telling the Liberals not to fear forcing an election, but then telling us all Harper wouldn't dare call one, given the calendar. Is that a paper tiger? Bascially, Layton himself admits the push here is predicated on no election, so the silly taunting is all the more unnecessary, not to mention a bit shallow.
I'm not sure I agree that Harper wouldn't force an election over the issue, so be careful, because we know what happened last time push REALLY came to shove:
"Fall election unlikely as NDP props up Tories"
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Nebraska ran into a hot-shooting Ohio State team Friday night, as the No. 10 Buckeyes posted a 71-50 win over the Huskers in the Big Ten quarterfinals at the United Center.
Ohio State (24-7) shot 59 percent on the night, including 77 percent in the second half, to break open a 28-23 halftime lead, as the second-seeded Buckeyes advanced to Saturday's semifinals.
OSU took control in the opening minutes of the second half, using an 11-0 run in the first four minutes to build a 39-23 lead. Sam Thompson scored seven of his career-high 19 points in the spurt, as he went 8-of-9 shooting on the night, including three 3-pointers. In all, the Buckeyes hit 11 of their first 12 shots from the floor in the second half in building a 26-point lead.
Nebraska (15-18) made one last run, using a 15-3 spurt to pull within 59-45 after a Dylan Talley basket with 5:23 left, but OSU scored seven of the next nine points to push the lead back to 19 after a Deshaun Thomas' 3-pointer with 3:58 left which effectively ended the Huskers' comeback hopes.
Thompson and Thomas led OSU with 19 points each, while OSU held Nebraska (15-18) to 41 percent shooting and forced 15 Husker turnovers.
Brandon Ubel led Nebraska with 16 points on 7-of-8 shooting and seven rebounds, while freshman Shavon Shields added 14 points and five rebounds, as the Huskers shot just 38 percent in the second half, including 1-of-10 from 3-point range.
It was the Huskers' hot shooting that stunned the United Center crowd, as Nebraska hit six of its first 10 shots to silence the pro-Buckeye crowd. Nebraska used a 15-3 spurt, including nine straight points, to build a 15-6 advantage
OSU came right back, running off 12 straight points behind the play of guards Shannon Scott and Aaron Craft, who accounted for 10 consecutive Buckeye points, as OSU took an 18-15 lead after a pair of Thomas free throws. OSU took advantage of turnovers, converting eight Husker miscues into nine first-half points.
Shields ended the Huskers' drought with a basket and NU remained in striking distance the rest of the half. Nebraska cut the OSU lead to 24-23 after a Ubel basket and it was a two-point game until OSU's final possession of the half when Thomas converted three straight free throws with 13 seconds left to make it 28-25 at the break.


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The Arkansas Lottery Commission says Stephen and Terri Weaver were on a fishing trip when they stopped to buy the first ticket at T-Ricks convenience store in Pangburn, about 60 miles northeast of Little Rock. They stopped at the same store on their way home and bought another ticket.
That first ticket turned out to be a $1 million winner. And the second one netted the couple another $50,000.
The lottery commission says the Weavers claimed their cash Monday and that they plan to pay bills and invest in their retirement.
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Consider three apps that benefit massively from a plugin system;
Each of them has 'come to power' because power users can hack the program to work as they really like. The basic system just provides hooks and programmers can extend the app to work well in particular, specialised ways.
Sublime Text already has python and macro extensions, but right now there is little documentation and no way, AFAIK, to deploy new addins -- new command sets, themes, macros, language definitions, etc.
Possibly, if good addins appear, and they become popular, the features could be woven back into Sublime. It's a mechanism for users to experiment without overloading Jon with feature requests, and seeing what sticks.
Key features would be;
A massive feature, I know, but I thought I'd see if others are interested in developing for ST.
Here's a link to the most popular firefox plugins, as background.
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Agreed 100%
This is in there partially via the *.sublime-package files, but there's no reasonable way to distribute them.
When you install Sublime Text, a bunch of *.sublime-package files get added to C:\Program Files\Sublime Text\Pristine Packages. Each of these is just a simple zip file.
When you run Sublime, it compares all these packages with the ones currently in:C:\Documents and Settings\Application Data\Sublime Text\Pristine Packages
Each new or modified package gets installed, also to the Application Data directory, but under the Packages folder. The basic process of upgrading/installing a package is to compare all the files in the old vs. new ones, and replace the on disk versions. Files in the older package but not the newer are removed.
What's missing here is the ability for packages to be installed without them having to first be under Program Files\Sublime Text\Pristine Packages - the plan is that eventually you'll just be able to download additional ones and double click on them in explorer.
There's also no easy way to create new packages yet, other than creating a new directory under Application Data\Sublime Text\Packages, and zipping it up.
(For some context for viewers, PackageSetup.py lives in C:\Program Files\Sublime Text and is responsible for installing and upgrading *.sublime-package files)
You're right: PackageSetup will leave any files you (the user) have changed alone, unless they've also been changed in the package, in which case your local changes get nuked. This isn't much fun.
The very first improvement would be to make PackageSetup.py backup any files changed by the user, so worst case nothing is lost. This would be a huge improvement over the situation today.
The next thing that could be done is to try and do a 3 way merge between the old package file, the new package file, and the users changes. Some (much) earlier versions of Sublime did this (with the assistance of code.google.com/p/google-diff-match-patch/), but that wasn't conservative enough, and would try and merge conflicting changes, resulting in broken files.
Any merging must err on the side of caution in merging near-by changes, otherwise there's a chance that the resulting file won't be valid, and the user will end up with a broken installation - this is even less fun than losing your customisation to that file.
I'm not keen on making PackageSetup work via a version control tool, just because of the added complexity. However, as an individual, there's no reason not to put the C:\Documents and Settings\Application Data\Sublime Text\Packages directory under version control.
Actually, using some sort of VCS as the backbone of PackageSetup may not be a bad idea at all, as long as users are never expected to merge anything manually.
I'm tempted to try to get something up, but something very, very simple. Jon is likely to want the option of taking control of something like an add-in repository, and the more complex it is, the harder it will be for him to take over.
I'd prefer to start by dumping zip files on arbitrary FTP servers, and then telling people about them via the forum. Simple enough to start with. Also the way firefox does it... Source control is then up to the individual developer.
That said, I'm also tempted to put up a simple wiki to share coding tips and such. I may knock something up over the Easter weekend.
Sounds great!
btw sublimator, there is a list of commands at sublimetext.com/docs/commands
One wiki, up and running! nothing impressive yet, but it's a start.
It's a moinmoin wiki, which seems to have some good buzz on the interwebs, but I've not used it before. Of particular interest is that it's written in python, and I thought that made sense for a python-addin website.
It's a straightforward installation so far, so we'll see if I can improve it as we go. It's text-file based, so at some point I'll be able to chuck a zip file of text files at Jon if he wants it.
Great stuff Steve - just needs some content now
(speed) I've put it on fastcgi, I think, and it feels fast enough now.
(content) Content should now be king. My thought is to get some basic notes about customisation in there -- how do you map a key to a command? How does the macro system work? links to documentation on Jon's site. I think we should be looking at the emacs wiki as a role model. Here's a link to their mission statement. emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/MissionStatement
If I understand you right, S, we're talking about the ability to directly load from and save to an ftp server? That's something I'd definately want to see. As you say, if we can do it with a plugn/extension/macro/whatever, then I'm very happy with that. Anything to save me from my struggles with vi.
Did you have a method for doing it yet?
Wiki is looking great - I'll add a link to in from the Support page.
re: content, tips n tricks, customisation etc are great - I'll be building the documentation at sublimetext.com into a reference primarily.
re: editing remote files, it's possible to get WinSCP to edit remote files in a standard editor, see winscp.net/eng/docs/task_edit#external_editors
I agree with these, though with the addition of an easier way for people to edit basic settings (font etc).
Any possibility of supporting Textmate snippets directly, the way themes are? It would save a lot of work in the long run, I think.
The snippet formats are very similar, it's something that will likely happen.
That'll probably be it for TextMate compatibilty though, as things like shell scripting for extensibility (which TM uses heavily) is not something I'm a great believer in, doubly so under Windows.


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Talk is all well and good. But it's no substitute for fixing this article, which is bloated and rambling. Let's just do it. We can always undo mistakes.
Archived discussions on this page can be found at:
Recent disease edits
Several US articles have recently received very detailed information on diseases - see Special:Contributions/188.8.131.52 for some examples. While this is good info, I'm concerned that it might be too much for an already-lengthy article like the USA article. For example, West Nile virus, Hanta virus, and the plague are of such minimal concern to anyone visiting the US that there are literally hundreds of other more relevant issues to be concerned about. Does anyone have any suggestion for keeping this info, but doing so in a way that doesn't distract from information that is relevant to the majority of US visitors? -- Ryan • (talk) • 02:05, 24 January 2011 (EST)
Disease too PC?
The above discussion made me read over the "Disease" section and I notice it says "the HIV rate — especially among gay men, IV drug users, sex workers, and certain ethnic minority groups", so... I was wondering why exactly we suddenly get vague with "certain ethnic minority groups"? When talking HIV, I don't think most people want to have to guess or infer. It is African-Americans that are being referenced here, correct? Can we just say this? Are there others (it's plural)? ChubbyWimbus 04:07, 24 January 2011 (EST)
Phone numbers
Currently the article states: "All of the digits must usually be dialed, even if "XXX" and "YYY" matches your phone's number. (In the smaller cities, XXX need not be dialed for local calls.)"
This is not the norm. By default, area codes are not needed, and cities/metro areas with 10-digit dialing are the exception. That said, since much of the population lives in these metro areas, and many visitors will be in these areas, I can see how it might appear differently.
I'm going to edit this to present it both accurately and helpfully. --BigPeteB 17:24, 28 March 2011 (EDT)
Men shaking hands with women
For whatever it's worth, I'm 46 and grew up in a liberal family in New York, NY and live in Manhattan today, and what I've always been taught is that it's best to wait for a woman to extend her hand before shaking it. I don't always practice that, and it isn't a terrible faux pas for a man to offer his hand first, but sometimes, women react as if that's just an excuse for the man to touch them. So I submit that it's a best practice for the man to do the traditional thing and wait for the woman to extend her hand (or not), and I dissent about reverting that part of my recent edit. Ikan Kekek 20:41, 9 April 2011 (EDT)
NYC museums
I feel this edit was a bad idea. First and foremost, it means we now have no mention of several of the most important museums in the country. Second of all, the reason I wrote that paragraph (and the D.C. paragraph) is because otherwise, NYC and DC museums would come to dominate the list that appears below them. I could be wrong, but I don't think any of the cities Ryan mentioned in his edit summary come close to NYC's selection when it comes to renown and importance. LtPowers 17:09, 5 May 2011 (EDT)
Respect (again)
Anyone wishing to go through the archived talk pages for this article will find numerous discussions about trimming the "Respect" section to get rid of Obvious information. The most recent revert to this section was done for the same reasons - the "Respect" section of this article tends to attract well-meaning edits that have the effect of diluting useful information. While it may be valuable to point out the sensitivity of Americans to race issues, this section has been used to present advice on not making fun of America, not joking about September 11, not peeing in public, etc. The Obvious guideline was started as a specific response to these sorts of edits, and the most recent revert was done due to its well-meaning but overly general advice. -- Ryan • (talk) • 18:10, 18 May 2011 (EDT)
Removing bloat
In the phrase "… [US] is regarded as the world's wealthiest and most powerful country…" I removed "regarded as", since the statement as edited is true and factual. As a source I site the CIA world fact book. While it is perhaps more polite to be falsely modest, a fact is a fact. —The preceding comment was added by William M Goetsch (talk • contribs)
I agree that it's a trivial matter. But it grates on me because it's so politically correct. And I wonder which country the anonymous editor would nominate as the most wealthy and powerful. None I suppose. Then the best, and most NPOV solution is simply to remove the entire sentence, which doesn't seem to have anything much to say to a traveler anyway. I haven't worked on Wikitravel and this page since 2004, and now I remember why I stopped. Bill 14:56, 9 June 2011 (EDT)
I don't intend to get too into this, but I think it would be best to get rid of anything other than simple travel advice here (in other words, I'm plugging my previous edit [2]). Few things in American life are more likely to provoke edit warring than opinions of the police. --Peter Talk 12:02, 14 June 2011 (EDT)
History section
I'm not clear on why certain phrases are so important to include in the History section. This recent edit re-added a few that I'd removed, and I'd like to explain why I removed them in the first place.
One change exchanged "sophisticated cliff-side towns" to "elaborate cliff-side towns". To me, this neuters the notability of the pueblos by merely praising their complexity. To me, it's their sophistication that makes them more remarkable; anyone can be elaborate, after all.
Another change added "imported" to describe how African slaves were used. That seems redundant. They obviously didn't just find African slaves waiting to be exploited here in America; making sure to note that they were imported seems to insult the reader's intelligence.
Another change is to note that the U.S. defeated Germany in World War I. Aside from being a gross simplification (the U.S. hardly did it singlehandedly, nor was Germany our only opponent), it also strikes me as not particularly relevant. The important fact to take from U.S. involvement in WWI is that it marked our emergence as a world superpower, not that we beat up those Germans real good.
The fourth change is new, not one I previously removed, but I find it most puzzling: WWII had been raging in Asia since before WWI?
-- LtPowers 14:10, 4 July 2011 (EDT)
This recent edit to the history section added extensive detail on US monetary policy that seems too detailed to me. The edit was well-intentioned, but monetary policy is a subject for its own (Wikipedia) article, and not really helpful in a brief overview within a travel guide. -- Ryan • (talk) • 02:06, 16 July 2011 (EDT)
Round three
These edits are well-intentioned, but I think they add too much detail. We are not an encyclopedia. How much of this is really relevant to travelers? LtPowers 20:21, 22 January 2012 (EST)
Region discussion - West Virginia and Virginia
While discussing the identity of the Mid-Atlantic, it occurred to me that the common inclusion of West Virginia and Virginia in the popular definition could be useful here on Wikitravel as well. W.Va. has much in common with southwestern Pennsylvania, and northern Virginia is strongly associated with Washington, D.C. There are some drawbacks, though: Virginia was part of the Confederacy, with Richmond its capital, and the southern parts of the state are clearly Southern. But I wouldn't want to move W.Va. without moving Virginia, because of the semantics of the term "Mid-Atlantic" if nothing else.
The main advantage would be balancing out the regions a bit. Mid-Atlantic has only five states, while South (United States of America) has eleven. Seven and nine would be more balanced. It would leave Kentucky as a northern outlier for the South region, but whatcha gonna do?
Thoughts? LtPowers 13:40, 2 November 2011 (EDT)
Nine cities - just some info
discoveramerica.com is being revamped; currently on their splash page, they have links to 12 city-based itineraries: Philadelphia, Boston, Chicago, Las Vegas, Los Angeles, Washington, Seattle, Atlanta, San Francisco, Dallas, New York, and New Orleans. Our list of nine cities matches closely, except we have Miami and forgo Philly, Atlanta, Las Vegas, and Dallas. I'm not suggesting any change here, just providing some information. LtPowers 16:31, 10 November 2011 (EST)
I think racism and advice for travelers of color is important in this article (as well as all others). Thoughts? —The preceding comment was added by 220.127.116.11 (talk • contribs)
Look, I don't want to start an edit war, but regarding this re-"correcting" of a sentence... I believe "jealously" is not incorrect in this sentence, and we should stick with the original author's wording. To watch something jealously is to watch it protectively, per wiktionary:jealous. Watching it with zeal is something else entirely. LtPowers 18:39, 20 April 2012 (EDT)