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The Man in the Middle of Bountygate
To this point, Bountygate has been long on headlines and short on specifics. Who did what exactly? Is there any proof of actual wrongdoing? Does it really matter anyway? Michael J. Mooney spent a week with the man who amplified the controversy, during which he delivered new evidence to the NFL: a never-before-seen video that speaks volumes about the culture of football and what, ultimately, is at stake
So much of Bountygate boils down to evidence. This is the biggest scandal in the history of the NFL, and when the initial punishments came down—long suspensions for both players and coaches—they came with only vague notions of evidence. There were documents, the league said, that proved coaches up and down the ladder knew about serious rules violations and did nothing to stop them. There was talk of pre-game statements and a pool of dirty money and allegations of $10,000 bounties. The penalties were the most serious the league has ever handed down. There were lawsuits and overturned decisions and secret meetings.
Because the NFL is so focused on doing everything behind closed doors, on protecting the brand—"the shield"—no matter what, the public has seen little in the way of evidence. It was the reason a three-person appeals panel suspended commissioner Roger Goodell's suspensions, saying he could only act if he finds evidence of behavior "detrimental to the league."
Well, I was with Sean Pamphilon when he brought that very kind of evidence to NFL headquarters on a Wednesday morning in May. I was next to him as he walked into the lobby and right up to the front desk.
Filmmaker Sean Pamphilon
Pamphilon is a filmmaker whose documentary on Ricky Williams, Run Ricky Run, was part of ESPN's "30 for 30" series. Now he's more commonly known as the guy who released the audio of former Saints coach Gregg Williams telling his players to target the heads of opponents and offering money for hits to the quarterback's head. He knows he turned up the volume on a scandal, and the NFL hates scandals.
"It's an $11 billion industry," Pamphilon told me at one point. "They say it's nine, but it's really eleven. That's a lot of money, a lot of resources. I'm looking at this giant amorphous thing that could swallow me up, and I'd have no idea how it would happen."
Now he'd come to the NFL headquarters on Park Avenue in New York City to show them some evidence that no one besides Pamphilon and a few others have seen. There were security guards in every direction, each wearing gray pants and a dark blue jacket that didn't seem to fit quite right. Near the front of the lobby was a stone sculpture of what looked like two lovers embracing.
Pamphilon told the guard that he had a tape the NFL would want to see. "I'm willing to show it to them," he said.
The guard eventually put Pamphilon on the phone with someone upstairs. There was a moment of silence.
"I thought you guys were interested in seeing this," Pamphilon said into the receiver. "I have a note that I'd like to give Roger."
Then he listened. When he put down the phone, he looked smug. "I bet they're consulting with a lawyer right now."
He was told to wait.
Finally, two very large men with NFL badges hanging over their ties arrived in the lobby. They didn't look happy. It appeared they weren't here to throw him out, though. They wanted him to come with them—but he had to go alone. So I watched as they took him through the turnstiles and into an elevator. Then the doors closed, and he was gone.
It was in the banquet hall of a hotel outside San Francisco the night before the Saints playoff game against the 49ers in January. Pamphilon was documenting the life of former Saints player Steve Gleason. In 2006, in the first home game in the Superdome after Katrina ravaged New Orleans, Gleason blocked a punt that was recovered in the end zone for a touchdown. The dramatic moment symbolized and signaled the turnaround of both the franchise and the region. (The mayor later awarded him the key to the city.) In 2011 he was diagnosed with ALS—and his wife gave birth to a son. He agreed to have Pamphilon document the last few years of his life, both to make a movie and to create a video library for Gleason's family.
After his diagnosis, the Saints welcomed Gleason back into the fold, which included giving him total access to team facilities and meetings. Pamphilon was sitting in the back of the room that night, next to Gleason and Scott Fujita, a linebacker and close friend of Gleason's from his days on the Saints. He was operating two cameras, one pointing at Gleason and Fujita and one facing forward, toward defensive coordinator Gregg Williams and an overhead projector. Most of the meeting seemed normal. Players were calm, focused. The coach went over some highlights of their defensive-game plan. Pamphilon was still trying to make sure he had a good shot of Gleason when he noticed a slight change in the coach's tone.
"The NFL's a production business," Williams said. "We'll never forget about it." The coach's momentum built. "Kill the head and the body will die," he said. He repeated it for emphasis. "Kill the head and the body will die." He continued: "We've got to do everything in the world to make sure we kill Frank Gore's head. We want him running sideways. We want his head sideways." He talked about taking the backup running back out of the game. He talked about taking the crowd out of the game. He reminded the players that this is a great game but that it's "a production business." He went over some situation-specifics.
Then Williams got to 49ers quarterback Alex Smith."On a two-man route," he said, pausing for a moment and pointing at his own chin route, "we hit fucking Smith right there. Remember me." Then he rubbed his fingers together—like what you might do while not saying the word money. "I got the first one. I got the first one," he said. "Go get it. Go lay that motherfucker out."
Maybe some of it was metaphorical, Pamphilon thought. But still, this was after so many stories about the devastating long-term effect of football concussions. After Chris Henry jumped—or fell—from the back of a pickup truck and doctors discovered that his twenty-six-year-old brain looked like an Alzheimer's patient's. After Dave Duerson shot himself in the chest, preserving his brain for concussion research. This was after the league had supposedly changed its tone and begun to crack down against hits to the head. Pamphilon felt disgusted. For the first time in the months he'd been shooting around the Saints, he felt very uncomfortable. He felt a little scared.
The coach went on with some more about the specifics of the game plan, but he always came back to the same point: "Kill the fucking head," he repeated over and over. "Every single one of you, before you get off the pile, affect the head. Early, affect the head. Continue to touch and hit the head. "
He reminded the team to never show weakness. He handed out cash awards—$200 each—for various defensive plays. The first two envelopes went out to players for what a jovial Williams called "whacks"—as in "whack hits." Pamphilon had never heard the term, and it has since been debated publicly, but it's safe to say a "whack" is an extra-hard hit. They are the kinds of hits coaches tell their players plant seeds of doubt in the minds of their opponents.
For the first time all meeting, both Fujita and Gleason were seen smiling on the video. Most of the players in the room laughed, and each time, in unison, they encouraged one another to "give it back"—meaning back into the overall prize pot, so the cash awards next time would be even bigger. The winners complied. Then the coach reminded the players to target specific injuries on 49ers: "We need to find out in the first two series of the game," Williams said, "that little wide receiver, number 10, about his concussion. We need to fucking put a lick on him, right now." On star receiver Michael Crabtree's knee: "He becomes human when we fucking take out that outside ACL." He added: "We need to decide on how many times we can beat Frank Gore's head."
Then he told his players to "never apologize for the way we compete," and the meeting ended with an inspirational DVD.
Pamphilon wasn't sure what to do with the video. He knew Steve Gleason wouldn't want to do anything that might hurt the Saints organization in any way, and Pamphilon didn't want to betray Gleason. There's no way of knowing if the mere existence of such a video—the Saints knew Pamphilon was filming that night—may have influenced the league's decision to go public, but on March 2 the NFL announced that, based on a two-year investigation, the league would be punishing the Saints for a "bounty program" and later that Williams was suspended from the league indefinitely. Pamphilon approached Gleason and talked about making the tape public. But Gleason didn't want to. Pamphilon knew that if he released the tape anonymously, eventually people would realize it was him anyway—and he certainly wasn't looking to get into a public spat with a dying football hero.
But it weighed on him. He couldn't believe, after all the talk of concussions, that this was still going on so blatantly. He thought it spoke to the culture of the league, of the media's "obsession with concussive hits." He went back to Gleason and told him he really thought the public should hear what it sounded like when an NFL coach tells his players to target a man's head. He told him he was going to release the audio portion of the tape—and that he hoped they would be able to continue working together.
Soon Pamphilon was getting text messages from Gleason's friends, including Drew Brees and Scott Fujita, both members of the NFL Players Association ecutive committee. In mid-March, Fujita sent Gleason an epic text message discussing the release. He copied Pamphilon on the message.
"Whatever Sean ultimately decides to do with this will be his decision, completely independent of you me," Fujita wrote. "I also think this is in no way about the Saints. It's not even an attack so much on the one person who said those words. It's really an indictment on the culture of football, a big part of which is still archaic has yet to evolve. Guys like you me have evolved."
Brees, an ever diligent protector of his team, didn't ask Pamphilon not to release the tapes. But he did want to have a say in the timing. He said he wanted to read the essay Pamphilon had written to accompany the audio. He sent Pamphilon a series of text and voice-mail messages.
"Just talked to Scott [Fujita]," Brees wrote to Pamphilon a few nights before the audio was published. "He does not want to see the message, but Steve and I do. All I am asking is that you give us the opportunity in total confidence. My eyes will be the only one to see it."
Pamphilon began to feel manipulated. He had someone telling him not to do it (Gleason), someone telling him to wait (Brees), and someone telling him to do what he needed to do (Fujita). He didn't know whom to trust. When he talked to me about it, around the same time, he didn't know whom he could turn to with evidence like this. He didn't particularly trust ESPN.
Pamphilon knew all about the "Worldwide Leader in Sports." He had spent years working there himself, cutting highlights and producing features for football shows up and down the lineup. The dictum from on high was always: lots of bone-crushing hits, lots of prolonged reaction shots. And for years that's what he did. Now, when he watches football—from the pro level down to teenagers—so much of the game is focused on the big hits and the big reactions. He notices the sport looking more like professional wrestling every year.
In the beginning of April, he finally sent the audio of Gregg Williams to Yahoo! Sports. Not long after the post went up, it felt like every outlet in America picked up the story. The audio, and Pamphilon's name, circulated across the sports world.
Gleason released a statement explaining that he had opposed the release of the tape and that he felt betrayed by someone he trusted. (Through an attorney, Gleason declined to comment, except to say that he "hopes this will all be resolved soon.") With this single act, Pamphilon severed ties with a business partner, picked a fight with the most powerful league in sports, and violated the trust of people he cared deeply about. A Saints fan called into a radio show to compare Pamphilon to Jerry Sandusky "getting on the news and trying to justify what he did." Sports Illustrated's Peter King blasted Pamphilon in his widely read "Monday Morning QB" column.
"Pamphilon betrayed the wishes of a dying man and a former very close friend by releasing the tape; that much we know," King wrote. "This is one of those cases where what's legally right shouldn't matter. What's morally right should. What's morally right is that Pamphilon, who never would have heard what Williams said without being attached to Gleason, shouldn't have released the tape without Gleason's permission." Then King ended with this: "I cannot find it in my heart to quite call Pamphilon a rat, but I cannot call him a hero either."
When the elevator doors opened at NFL HQ, Pamphilon was several floors below the surface streets. He was expecting to go up. He wondered if he even had cell service down here. He stepped out into what felt like a maze. There were mannequins along the walls, each dressed in an NFL jersey. The men took him deeper and deeper into the bowels of the building. When they finally arrived in a meeting room, the men wanted to make sure he wasn't secretly recording anything.
Pamphilon took a seat in front of two very serious-looking men. He was suddenly very conscious of the fact that the NFL security is partly composed of former cops. In fact, one of the men, Joe Hummel, is a former FBI agent. He was the league's chief investigator, and Bountygate was his last big case, the product of years of work. In April he announced that he'd be leaving to become the vice president of an insurance company. His boss, Jeff Miller, was also in front of Sean. Miller, the league's vice president of strategic security, is the former commissioner of the Pennsylvania State Police.
There was an awkward, prolonged silence. Pamphilon made a quip to cut the tension—later he couldn't even remember what he said—but nobody laughed. It felt like Miller was staring into his eyes, forcing him into submission. Pamphilon pulled his computer from his backpack and put it on the table so they could see the screen. He's not technically savvy, but he expected he could get it to come up in a second. It wasn't working, though. He tried to explain that it wasn't like a link in an e-mail: His film partner put it online and there's a password, but it didn't seem to be working.
He tried another joke, but again Hummel and Miller were not amused. He could feel what little credibility he may have had in their eyes slipping fast. At this point, he knew they were likely thinking: Who is this guy? Does he even have a video? Is this all some prank?
After several minutes of trying, he finally got the laptop working. The video popped up, and the two NFL employees seemed to snap to attention. They watched Scott Fujita and Steve Gleason in the back of a banquet hall, reacting to a defensive game plan. They heard "Kill the head and the body will die," over and over. They heard Gregg Williams talk about targeting injuries, targeting heads. And they heard him handing out money to players as they clapped and hollered. Then they watched the footage from the other camera, and they saw an NFL coach point at his own head and tell his players—the men in his charge, the men whose livelihoods depend on pleasing him—that he was paying cash for the first head shot. They heard it again: "Kill the head and the body will die."
The investigators wanted to know who was in the room that night. Which players? Which coaches? Pamphilon told them he was focused on his cameras; he didn't see. Miller looked him in the eye, an "alpha-male, are-you-lying-to-us stare," Pamphilon would later call it.
The mood had changed. It was still far from friendly, but he'd made them pay attention. And whether they thought he was a hero or a rat, they shook his hand and thanked him for coming in.
In his latest project, a documentary called The United States of Football, Pamphilon has decided to go directly at the NFL. He loves the game, but like so many fans these days, he's conflicted. He's spent months crisscrossing the country, talking to coaches, players, doctors, and parents. He's advocating for safety but also asking this country to examine its relationship to football. He wants transparency, a willingness to put the health of human beings above the profit margin.
In the days I was with him on his trip, he and his photographer drove from New York to New Jersey to Maryland and into Washington, D.C., stopping to interview and film experts in each place. The afternoon after we visited the NFL headquarters, Pamphilon got a call. It was from Joe Hummel. Mostly, Pamphilon just listened. Hummel wanted to thank him again for coming in, for caring about the safety of the players and the integrity of the game. He sounded sincere. The call lasted less than two minutes, but for Pamphilon, it was validation. While Pamphilon may not be accepted by the Who Dat Nation, he's not an enemy of the NFL, either.
Before we parted ways, Sean wanted to show me more evidence—not from Bountygate, but a taste of what he's been fighting for. When we got to Annapolis, the May air was cool, and the sun sparkled off the boats along the road. After some troubled navigation, we finally pulled into the parking lot of what used to be a large white house, nestled in the shade of sprawling trees. It was a nursing home with dementia care, the home of Ralph Wenzel—a guard for the Pittsburgh Steelers and the San Diego Chargers—from 1966 to 1973.
A sweet woman greeted Pamphilon with a hug in the parking lot: Wenzel's wife, Eleanor Perfetto. In 1995, when he was 52, Wenzel began suffering memory lapses. Soon his symptoms worsened, and he had to quit his job as a coach and teacher. Perfetto, who has a Ph.D. in public health, told his story to the media, and his case helped draw the first attention to football-related early-onset dementia. In 2009, Perfetto testified before a congressional committee, insisting that the NFL "must stop its denial of the relationship between brain trauma and brain disease."
Former Steeler Ralph Wenzel
Inside, we saw Wenzel, who was now frail, unable to recognize faces. At six feet two, he used to weigh 250 pounds. Now, though, he was barely 140. He was in a blue hospital chair to accommodate his diminished state. His eyes were closed, and his arms were folded peacefully over his chest.
Perfetto explained that, at this point, Wenzel couldn't say anything and could barely understand what was going on around him. Though he'd been living in a home for dementia patients since 2006, she explained that she still visited him several times a week.
"He doesn't have long," Perfetto said.
Pamphilon had been out to interview Perfetto before, a few years ago, but she wanted him to come back to see her husband one last time before he died. It would be a matter of weeks. Pamphilon was soft-spoken with her, gentle in their conversation. He asked her what she used to imagine these years would be like. She looked at her husband. "We used to imagine our dream house," she said, stoic but sturdy. She's been dealing with this for a long time. "I thought we'd be sitting next to each other, watching the sun set."
She got up and came back with a plastic cup full of orange juice and a straw. "Are you thirsty," she said, knowing Wenzel might might not understand.
He made a deep growling sound, like someone trying to communicate.
"Do you want some juice?"
She carefully guided her husband's face toward her and propped the straw in his mouth.
"That's right. That's right." Her voice was warm, soft. She wiped a drop of juice from Wenzel's arm. "He used to be so big, so strong," she said.
After the NFL announced the original suspensions, the players appealed. Jonathan Vilma sued the commissioner for defamation, and in July he and several other witnesses testified under oath that Goodell had his facts wrong. (There was also a sworn affidavit from Drew Brees.) Just before the season started, the appeals panel overturned the player suspensions. Before making a second ruling, Goodell is meeting with the players involved. As fans and journalists and players wait and the fate of a season hangs in the balance, there is still a dearth of evidence.
Soon, Pamphilon would be back with his family in Seattle. In less than a month, Eleanor Perfetto would call him to let him know that her husband was dead.
At the moment, though, she was still trying to get her husband to drink some juice. Pamphilon asked her why she'd called him again, why she'd invited him back to see Ralph one more time. She said she made the decision when she saw the news one day and heard the audio of a coach telling his players, "Kill the head and the body will die."
"That's when I called you," she said. "That's when I wanted you to come back here. It was so upsetting."
She pointed to her husband, once one of the biggest, toughest football players in the world—now fragile, curled up, sipping juice, waiting for the relief of death.
"When someone says, 'Kill the head and the body will die,' this is what that looks like."
_Michael J. Mooney is a staff writer at _D Magazine


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1996 Chevrolet C/K 1500 ReviewThis car review is specific to this model, not the actual vehicle for sale.
GM's big haulers power up for '96.
Thanks to the tough-guy look of the new Dodge Ram pickup and the rounded mod-squad shape of the even-newer Ford F-Series pickup, the Chevrolet--and cousin GMC--C/K full-size pickups are suddenly looking like the old kids on the block. Yet, in truck years, the General Motors full-size pickups aren't really that old. The design was first introduced in 1988 as a completely new offering inside and out, and even today it looks clean, crisp and contemporary.
Stylistically, it offers truck buyers an alternative to the newer Dodge and Ford models, an alternative that is traditional without necessarily being out of fashion. And in a market segment where product cycles are often measured in decades, eight years tallies up as just getting started.
In 1992 the line was rounded out with the addition of a Crew Cab model and a 6.5-liter turbodiesel V8. In 1995 the interior was redone, including the addition of a driver's airbag.
For 1996 there is really big news under the hood. The so-called 'Vortec' technology, which was used to such positive effect on GM's 4.3-liter V6 truck engines, has been extended to all the C/K's gasoline V8 engine offerings. The 5.0, 5.7- and 7.4-liter V8s all deliver a lot more power and a lot more torque. In horsepower, the 4.3 V6 has more than the previous 5.0 V8, the 5.0 has more than the previous 5.7, and the 5.7 has more than the previous 7.4. Across the board, torque figures are up between 20 to 25 lb.-ft., depending upon the specific engine.
Flanked by the Dodge Ram and Ford's new F-Series, GM's C/K pickups seem to sit squarely and comfortably in the great traditional middleground.
As with all full-size pickups, the C/K, from either Chevrolet or GMC, is available in more combinations and configurations than most of us can probably count. There are three cab selections; regular, extended and the 4-door Crew Cab. There are two body styles, the traditional, straight-sided version and the Sportside, which offers a narrower cargo bed and fender flares. There are four wheelbases, from 117.5 in. to 168.5 in., and choices of single or dual rear wheels.
There are three of what we can call duty ranges; the lighter-duty 1500-Series, the harder-working 2500, and the 3500 heavy-duty. You can take your pick of the four gasoline engines previously mentioned, or one of two 6.5-liter turbodiesels--normal and a 'heavy-duty,' matched with a 5-speed manual transmission or 4-speed automatic.
All C/K pickups are fitted with 4-wheel antilock brakes, a big plus in the safety department. The optional 4-wheel drive is a shift-on-the-fly type that allows for easy changes between 2wd and 4wd high. Like all truck systems, it's designed for occasional use rather than full-time, and engaging low-range 4wd, for really tough going, requires stopping the vehicle first.
The Chevy we sampled was about in the middle of all this, a Silverado 1500 with extended cab, 2wd, 5.7-liter Vortec V8 and a 5-speed manual transmission. It had a gross vehicle weight rating of 6800 lbs. and a maximum trailer-towing capacity of 7500 lbs.
This certainly isn't the biggest truck you can find, but only a few owners would likely think it not big enough. For the record, everything said about the Chevy pickups also applies to the equivalent GMC versions, as well. Aside from their grillework, the two lines are identical.
The 5.7-liter Vortec V8 makes 250 hp at 4600 rpm (last year, the 7.4-liter 'big block' V8 made only 230), and 335 lb.-ft. of torque at 2800 rpm (last year the big block was rated at 385 lb.-ft.). This means practically the same hauling power as previous versions of the big-block, but without that monster's penalty in fuel economy.
The example we drove was EPA-rated at 14 mpg city, 18 highway; more than acceptable, considering the Chevy's capabilities.
The new 5.7 V8 gets the job done. It pulls willingly to its 5500 rpm redline and makes power all the way. More remarkably, our truck, equipped with the manual transmission, could be lugged down to 1000 rpm in 5th gear, even on a slight upgrade, and from there would take full throttle with no bucking or stumbling. If this engine is running, it's making useable torque, which is what truck engines are all about.
Most buyers will probably choose the automatic transmission, but those who prefer shifting for themselves will be pleased to know this one shifts smoothly and easily. And all that torque means you don't even have to shift very much, if that's your preference.
The interior redesign for 1995 was a welcome change. Gone are the flat surfaces and square corners, replaced by flowing curves and a significant increase in function.
The new instruments and controls are well located and easy to see, reach and operate. Not to mention far more attractive. Multi-direction face-level vents for the heating, ventilation and air conditioning are spread across the dash. A nifty cupholder pops out of the instrument panel and holds two drink containers without blocking any control functions. In front of the passenger seat the instrument panel includes a recessed top, with two more recesses for drinks; plenty of room for food-on-the-go. There are storage spots all around, and three power outlets for running a radar detector, phone, fax or whatever other electronic necessity your travels require.
In the back of the extended cab there's a bench seat with room for three, but it's really best suited for shorter trips; the seatback is pretty upright and the bench itself is short.
On the plus side there's lots of versatility. The rear seat easily flips up and out of the way revealing, on one side, a covered compartment for tire-changing tools and, on the other, a conveniently flat floor surface for stowing luggage, a tool box or ice chest. Not all extended cab pickups have flat floors in the rear so if you plan on carrying things inside you may want to check this out.
The C/K pickups are also available with an optional third door on the passenger's side, which allows easier access to the rear for piling in people, pets or cargo.
Driving Impression
This is a pickup truck with a long wheelbase and should not be expected to ride or drive like a car. Unloaded, the ride is mixed; in most places it's acceptable, but on concrete freeways with a periodic irregularity it can become pretty tiresome as it hops in frequency with the pavement. But that can be said for just about any pickup truck, especially unloaded. Loaded, however, the ride will be better, and even the 1500-Series Chevy will take more than a ton of bricks in its bed.
On balance, the ride is good, particularly for the long haul. The front seats are comfy and there's plenty of room, and roomy comfort is one of the big reasons people buy full-size pickup trucks.
There's good steering feel, directional stability is relentless, and the Chevy goes where it's pointed and stays headed there. The long wheelbase of the extended cab detracts from nimbleness, and maneuvering in tight quarters might require some planning. But it will take a mighty big monsoon direct on the beam to cause this thing to start drifting to leeward.
The bottom line on the Chevy C/K pickup is the power of the new gasoline engine lineup, one area where GM's full-size trucks hold a distinct edge over the new Ford F-Series.
For a long time, truck buyers planning to haul big loads were almost forced to reckon with the expense--both initially and in fuel consumption--of a big-block. But no more; the 5.7-liter Vortec V8 offers a very real alternative, with plenty of power for all but the most outrageously heavy work, yet decent fuel economy (by pickup truck standards) for daily use.
In case you'll be dealing with only medium loads, the 5.0-liter Vortec V8 offers performance comparable to or better than last year's 5.7. If your needs dictate you go the other way, the 7.4-liter V8 churns out 290 hp and 410 lb.-ft. of torque. For diehard diesel fans the HD version of the 6.5-liter turbo-diesel offers 190 horsepower and 385 lb.-ft of torque, and is smoother and quieter than the Cummins turbodiesel offered in the Dodge Ram. Chevy gives you a lot of choices.
While the competition has gone off on stylistic frontier-busting, the Chevy (and GMC) pickups have retained the high middle ground. Eight years down the road, they still look clean and modern. They're definitely a proven commodity with hundreds of thousands of satisfied owners. And the addition of the Vortec engine technology across the gasoline powerplant line makes them more attractive than ever before.
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Air conditioning, Silverado decor, 5.7-liter V8, power seat, remote entry, electrochromic interior mirror with compass, rear defogger, locking rear axle, alloy wheels, AM/FM/cassette sound system, P235/75R-15 WL tires, power mirrors.
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Our Fitness Blog
How to Play It Safe in the Summer Sun
You can feel it in the air. Summer is almost here, and soon everyone will be enjoying the outside world once again. Many of us may even take our fitness routines outside to enjoy the weather and the scenery. We can start swimming and hiking again, not to mention running and walking outside is now an option. While there are many benefits to getting some sun, you need to ensure that you do not get too much. There is a very thin line between a good amount of sun and too much sun, and you need to understand how much you can tolerate before you actually do your body some major harm.
Get the recommended amount
It is actually good to get some sun. We can get Vitamin D from the sun, which can help boost our immune system and bone strength. The sun gives us energy, which can also help us achieve a better night's sleep. It also helps us with our mood because it increases the amount of serotonin, one of the body's feel good hormones. It comes as no surprise that there are rehabs available for people who seem to be addicted to sun bathing these days. The sun can make your mind, body and spirit feel so much better. Most researchers believe that you should get about fifteen minutes of sun a day without sunscreen, but be careful that you do not overdo it.
Pick the proper sunscreen
You need to pick a sunscreen that will block UVA and UVB rays. These may also be labeled as broad-spectrum UV coverage. You may also need to choose a sunscreen that is waterproof or sweatproof depending on what you are doing. You should look for a sunscreen that contains zinc and also check the label to make sure that the sunscreen does not have any chemicals or other ingredients you may be allergic to. You should try to stay away from sunscreens that contain Vitamin A and PABA (Para-aminobenzoic acid) because they are harmful for your skin.
Make sure you get every spot
It is easy to forget to put sunscreen on certain parts of our bodies. I would always forget to put it on the tops of my feet, and you know what would happen. My feet would be the only spot sunburned. The most common spots that people seem to miss are the ears, scalp and lips. Many doctors feel as if this may be one of the major reasons we are seeing a rise in skin cancer cases. If you are going to need sunscreen it is best to remember to buy some sort of lip balm with an SPF factor of at least thirty and some sunscreen spray for your scalp. If you do not want to spray your scalp you could try wearing a hat when you go out.
Stay hydrated
Anytime you spend a prolonged period of time in the sun you need to stay hydrated. You have to make sure you drink plenty of fluids to remain hydrated. It can be a frightening experience if you become dehydrated and will most certainly ruin your fun and relaxing day. There are many symptoms you should look out for, such as becoming dizzy, being unable to breathe or fainting. So, in order to enjoy your time in the sun always have water at hand to avoid these symptoms.
It can be fun being able to go out and enjoying the nice summer weather. However, you need to remember to play it safe and take special precautions when you are in the sun and high heat. It could put a damper on any type of event you are planning and cause serious problems in the long run. Just remember to play it safe while you are enjoying your outside summer routines.


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Jesus Was Julius Caesar
Playlist "Jesus was Julius Caesar" that is not Sheitgeist, or Joseph Atwill related.
Keep in mind that the Greek Ptolemy I created the God "Serapis" to unify conquered Egypt.
At the very least please give a quick glance at the Channel Art available in the 1st link.......Thank You
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL ... 4ltVlf5m1B
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caesar's_Comet (Star from the East/compare to Chi Rho)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chi_Rho (1st Christogram & Cross of Constantine)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clementia (Caesar's Divine foregiveness & mercy)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lictor (12 Messengers/followers)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Triumvirate (3 Wise men)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janus_(mythology) (Alpha & Omega past/future)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitoline_Triad (Trinity of ancient Rome)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhea_Silvia (Virgin birth thru a God)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturnalia (Before there was a Christmas)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tropaion (Sacred trophy of victory)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechane (Stage mechanical device)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_(mythology) (Goddess of Victory in battle)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dies_sanguinis (Day of sacred blood,flagellation & cutting)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decemviri (Commission of ten men to write up a code of law)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelve_Tables (twelve Ivory/Bronze? tablets of Laws)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanctuary_ ... hree_Gauls (Altar of lugdunum)
Matthew 1:18 -but before they came together, she was found to be with child through the Holy Spirit.
Suetonius,The Lives of the Caesars Life of Augustus 94.4 P267
4 I have read the following story in the books of Asclepias of Mendes entitled Theologumena.When Atia (Atia Balba Caesonia) had come in the middle of the night to the solemn service of Apollo, she had her litter set down in the temple and fell asleep, while the rest of the matrons also slept. On a sudden a serpent glided up to her and shortly went away. When she awoke, she purified herself, as if after the embraces of her husband, and at once there appeared on her body a mark in colours like a serpent, and she could never get rid of it; so that presently she ceased ever to go to the public baths. In the tenth month after that Augustus was born and was therefore regarded as the son of Apollo.Atia too, before she gave him birth, dreamed that her vitals were borne up to the stars and spread over the whole extent of land and sea, while Octavius (Augustus) dreamed that the sun rose from Atia's womb.
Matthew 2:3 When King Herod heard this he was disturbed, and all Jerusalem with him.
Plutarch, The Parallel Lives Life of Caesar 1.3 P443
3 Moreover, Caesar was not satisfied to be overlooked at first by Sulla, who was busy with a multitude of proscriptions, but he came before the people as candidate for the priesthood, although he was not yet much more than a stripling. 4 To this candidacy Sulla secretly opposed himself, and took measures to make Caesar fail in it, and when he was deliberating about putting him to death and some said there was no reason for killing a mere boy like him, he declared that they had no sense if they did not see in this boy many Mariuses.
Mark 6:4 "Only in his home town,among his relatives,and only in his own house is a prophet without honor."5 He could not do any miracles there,except lay his hands on a few sick people,and heal them, 6 And He was amazed at their lack of faith.
Plutarch, The Parallel Lives Life of Caesar 39.8 P541
8 So completely had Caesar given up his cause for lost that,when Pompey,either from excessive caution or by some chance,did not follow up his great success,but withdrew after he had shut up the fugitives within their entrenchments,Caesar said to his friends as he left them:"To-day victory had been with the enemy,if they had had a victor in command."9 Then going by himself to his tent,and lying down,he spent that most distressful of all nights in vain reflections,convinced that he had shown bad generalship.
Matthew 8:1 When he came from the mountainside large crowds followed him.
Julius Caesar, Gallic War Commentaries Book 8.51 (Writes in 3rd person)
Caesar, on his arrival, was received by the principal towns and colonies with incredible respect and affection; for this was the first time he came since the war against united Gaul. Nothing was omitted which could be thought of for the ornament of the gates, roads, and every place through which Caesar was to pass. All the people with their children went out to meet him. Sacrifices were offered up in every quarter. The market places and temples were laid out with entertainments, as if anticipating the joy of a most splendid triumph. So great was the magnificence of the richer and zeal of the poorer ranks of the people.
Mark 7:15 "Nothing outside a man can make him 'unclean' by going into him.Rather, it is what comes out of a man that makes him 'unclean' ."
Plutarch, The Parallel Lives Life of Caesar 17.9 P485
9 Of his indifference in regard to his diet the following circumstance also is brought in proof. When the host who was entertaining him in Mediolanum, Valerius Leo, served up asparagus dressed with myrrh instead of olive oil, Caesar ate of it without ado, and rebuked his friends when they showed displeasure. 10 "Surely," said he, "it were enough not to eat what you don't like; but he who finds fault with ill-breeding like this is ill-bred himself."
Matthew 18:6 But if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin,
it would be better for him to have a large millstone hung around his neck,and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.
Matthew 18:8 If your hand,or your foot causes you to sin,cut it off,and throw it away.
Matthew 18:9 If your eye causes you to sin,gouge it out,and throw it away.
Plutarch, The Parallel Lives Life of Caesar 16.1 P481
1 His soldiers showed such good will and zeal in his service that those who in their previous campaigns had been in no way superior to others were invincible and irresistible in confronting every danger to enhance Caesar's fame. 2 Such a man, for instance, was Acilius, who, in the sea-fight at Massalia, boarded a hostile ship and had his right hand cut off with a sword, but clung with the other hand to his shield, and dashing it into the faces of his foes, routed them all and got possession of the vessel. 3 Such a man, again, was Cassius Scaeva, who, in the battle at Dyrrhachium, had his eye struck out with an arrow, his shoulder transfixed with one javelin and his thigh with another, and received on his shield the blows of one hundred and thirty missiles. 4 In this plight, he called the enemy to him as though he would surrender. Two of them, accordingly, coming up, he lopped off the shoulder of one with his sword, smote the other in the face and put him to flight, and came off safely himself with the aid of his comrades. 5 Again, in Britain, when the enemy had fallen upon the foremost centurions, who had plunged into a watery marsh, a soldier, while Caesar in person was watching the battle, dashed into the midst of the fight, displayed many conspicuous deeds of daring, and rescued the centurions, after the Barbarians had been routed. 6 Then he himself, making his way with difficulty after all the rest, plunged into the muddy current, and at last, without his shield, partly swimming and partly wading, got across. 7 Caesar and his company were amazed and came to meet the soldier with cries of joy; but he, in great dejection, and with a burst of tears, cast himself at Caesar's feet, begging pardon for the loss of his shield. 8 Again, in Africa, Scipio captured a ship of Caesar's in which Granius Petro, who had been appointed quaestor, was sailing. Of the rest of the passengers Scipio made booty, but told the quaestor that he offered him his life. 9 Granius, however, remarking that it was the custom with Caesar's soldiers not to receive but to offer mercy, killed himself with a blow of his sword.
Mark 6:38 "How many loaves do you have?"
Plutarch, The Parallel Lives Life of Caesar 39.1 P537
39 1 After this, Antony put in from Brundisium with his forces, and Caesar was emboldened to challenge Pompey to battle. Pompey was well posted and drew ample supplies both from land and sea; while Caesar had no great abundance at first, and afterwards was actually hard pressed for want of provisions. 2 But his soldiers dug up a certain root, mixed it with milk, and ate it.Once, too, they made loaves of it, and running up to the enemy's outposts, threw the loaves inside or tossed them to one another, adding by way of comment that as long as the earth produced such roots, they would not stop besieging Pompey. 3 Pompey, however, would not allow either the loaves or these words to reach the main body of his army. For his soldiers were dejected, fearing the ferocity and hardiness of their enemies, who were like wild beasts in their eyes.
Mark 5 They went across the lake to the region of the Gerasenes.2 When Jesus got out of the boat, a man with an impure spirit came from the tombs to meet him. 3 This man lived in the tombs, and no one could bind him anymore, not even with a chain. 4 For he had often been chained hand and foot, but he tore the chains apart and broke the irons on his feet. No one was strong enough to subdue him. 5 Night and day among the tombs and in the hills he would cry out and cut himself with stones.6 When he saw Jesus from a distance, he ran and fell on his knees in front of him. 7 He shouted at the top of his voice, "What do you want with me, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? In God's name don't torture me!" 8 For Jesus had said to him, "Come out of this man, you impure spirit!"9 Then Jesus asked him, "What is your name?"
"My name is Legion," he replied, "for we are many." 10 And he begged Jesus again and again not to send them out of the area.11 A large herd of pigs was feeding on the nearby hillside. 12 The demons begged Jesus, "Send us among the pigs; allow us to go into them." 13 He gave them permission, and the impure spirits came out and went into the pigs. The herd, about two thousand in number, rushed down the steep bank into the lake and were drowned.14 Those tending the pigs ran off and reported this in the town and countryside, and the people went out to see what had happened. 15 When they came to Jesus, they saw the man who had been possessed by the legion of demons, sitting there, dressed and in his right mind; and they were afraid. 16 Those who had seen it told the people what had happened to the demon-possessed man—and told about the pigs as well. 17 Then the people began to plead with Jesus to leave their region.18 As Jesus was getting into the boat, the man who had been demon-possessed begged to go with him. 19 Jesus did not let him, but said, "Go home to your own people and tell them how much the Lord has done for you, and how he has had mercy on you." 20 So the man went away and began to tell in the Decapolis how much Jesus had done for him. And all the people were amazed.
Plutarch, The Parallel Lives Life of Caesar 20.4 p493
4 But when he heard that the Belgae, who were the most powerful of the Gauls and occupied the third part of all their country, had revolted, and had assembled unknown myriads of armed men, he turned back at once and marched thither with great speed. 5 He fell upon the enemy as they were plundering the Gauls that were in alliance with Rome, and so routed and destroyed the least scattered and most numerous of them, after a disgraceful struggle on their part, that the Romans could cross lakes and deep rivers for the multitude of dead bodies in them. 6 All the rebels who dwelt along the ocean submitted without a battle; against the Nervii, however, the most savage and warlike of the people in these parts, Caesar led his forces. 7 The Nervii, who dwelt in dense woods, and had placed their families and possessions in a recess of the forest at farthest remove from the enemy, at a time when Caesar was fortifying a camp and did not expect the battle, fell upon him suddenly, sixty thousand strong. They routed his cavalry, and surrounded the seventh and twelfth legions and slew all their centurions, 8 and had not Caesar snatched a shield, made his way through the combatants in front of him, and hurled himself upon the Barbarians; and had not the tenth legion, at sight of his peril, run down from the heights and cut the ranks of the enemy to pieces, not a Roman, it is thought, would have survived. 9 As it was, however, owing to Caesar's daring, they fought beyond their powers, as the saying is, and even then did not rout the Nervii, but cut them down as they defended themselves; 10 for out of sixty thousand only five hundred are said to have come off alive, and only three of their senators out of four hundred.
Mark 1:34 and Jesus healed many who had various diseases.
Plutarch, The Parallel Lives Life of Caesar 41.6 P543
41 6 Caesar accomplished most of his march with difficulty, since no one would sell him provisions, and everybody despised him on account of his recent defeat; 7 but after he had taken Gomphi, a city of Thessaly, he not only provided food for his soldiers, but also relieved them of their disease unexpectedly. 8 For they fell in with plenty of wine, and after drinking freely of it, and then revelling and rioting on their march, by means of their drunkenness they drove away and got rid of their trouble, since they brought their bodies into a different habit.
Plutarch, The Parallel Lives Life of Caesar 12.2 P471
2 After bringing the war to a successful close, he was equally happy in adjusting the problems of peace, by establishing concord between the cities, and particularly by healing the dissensions between debtors and creditors.
Mark 6:48 He saw the discples strainning at the oars, because the wind was against them. About the fourth watch of the night he went out to them, walking on the lake.
Suetonius,The Lives of the Caesars Life of Julius Caesar 64.1 P85
64 1 At Alexandria, while assaulting a bridge, he was forced by a sudden sally of the enemy to take to a small skiff; when many others threw themselves into the same boat, he plunged into the sea, and after swimming for two hundred paces, got away to the nearest ship, holding up his left hand all the way, so as not to wet some papers which he was carrying, and dragging his cloak after him with his teeth, to keep the enemy from getting it as a trophy.
Mark 6:50-:51 "Take courage! It is I. Don't be afraid." Then he climbed into the boat with them, and the wind died down.
Plutarch, The Parallel Lives Life of Caesar 38.1 P537
38 1 At Apollonia, since the force which he had with him was not a match for the enemy and the delay of his troops on the other side caused him perplexity and distress, Caesar conceived the dangerous plan of embarking in a twelve-oared boat, without any one's knowledge, and going over to Brundisium, though the sea was encompassed by such large armaments of the enemy. 2 At night, accordingly, after disguising himself in the dress of a slave, he went on board, threw himself down as one of no account, and kept quiet. 3 While the river Aoüs was carrying the boat down towards the sea, the early morning breeze, which at that time usually made the mouth of the river calm by driving back the waves, was quelled by a strong wind which blew from the sea during the night; 4 the river therefore chafed against the inflow of the sea and the opposition of its billows, and was rough, being beaten back with a great din and violent eddies, so that it was impossible for the master of the boat to force his way along. He therefore ordered the sailors to come about in order to retrace his course. 5 But Caesar, perceiving this, disclosed himself, took the master of the boat by the hand, who was terrified at sight of him, and said: "Come, good man, be bold and fear naught; thou carryest Caesar and Caesar's fortune in thy boat."69 6 The sailors forgot the storm, and laying to their oars, tried with all alacrity to force their way down the river. But since it was impossible, after taking much water and running great hazard at the mouth of the river, Caesar very reluctantly suffered the captain to put about. 7 When he came back, his soldiers met him in throngs, finding much fault and sore displeased with him because he did not believe that even with them alone he was able to conquer, but was troubled, and risked his life for the sake of the absent as though distrusting those who were present.
Matthew 8:22 But Jesus told him, "Follow me, and let the dead bury their own dead.
Plutarch, The Parallel Lives Life of Caesar 34.6 P527
6 against Domitius, however, who was holding Corfinium with thirty cohorts under his command, he marched, and pitched his camp near by. Domitius, despairing of his enterprise, asked his physician, who was a slave, for a poison; and taking what was given him, drank it, intending to die. 7 But after a little, hearing that Caesar showed most wonderful clemency towards his prisoners, he bewailed his fate, and blamed the rashness of his purpose. 8 Then his physician bade him be of good cheer, since what he had drunk was a sleeping-potion and not deadly; whereupon Domitius rose up overjoyed and went to Caesar, the pledge of whose right hand he received, only to desert him and go back to Pompey. 9 When tidings of these things came to Rome, men were made more cheerful, and some of the fugitives turned back.
Matthew 14:10 And had John beheaded in prison.
Appian The Civil Wars Book II 86.1 P385
The servants of Pothinus cut off Pompey's head and kept it for Caesar, in expectation of a large reward, but he visited condign punishment on them for their nefarious deed. The remainder of the body was buried by somebody on the shore, and a small monument was erected over it, on which somebody else wrote this inscription:—
"How pitiful a tomb for one so rich in temples."
Matthew 14:13 When Jesus heard what had happened, he withdrew by Boat privately to a solitary place.
Appian The Civil Wars Book II 90.1 P395 (2nd half of paragraph)
He ascended the Nile with 400 ships, exploring the country in company with Cleopatra and generally enjoying himself with her. The details, however, of these events are related more particularly in my Egyptian history. Caesar could not bear to look at the head of Pompey when it was brought to him, but ordered that it be buried, and set apart for it a small plot of ground near the city which was dedicated to Nemesis, but in my time, while the Roman emperor Trajan was exterminating the Jewish race in Egypt, it was devastated by them in the exigencies of the war.
John 19:15 ..."We have no King but Caesar,"...
Suetonius,The Lives of the Caesars Life of Julius Caesar P109 79.2
But from that time on he could not rid himself of the odium of having aspired to the title of monarch, although he replied to the commons, when they hailed him as king, "I am Caesar and no king," and at the Lupercalia, when the consul Antony several times attempted to place a crown upon his head as he spoke from the rostra, he put it aside and at last sent it to the Capitol, to be offered to Jupiter Optimus Maximus.
Appian The Civil Wars Book II 146.1 P499
Extreme passion he uncovered the body of Caesar,lifted his robe on the point of a spear and shook it aloft, pierced with dagger-thrusts and red with the dictator's blood. Whereupon the people, like a chorus in a play, mourned with him in the most sorrowful manner,and from sorrow became filled again with anger.
Appian The Civil Wars Book II 147.1 P501
Raised above the bier an image of Caesar himself made of wax.The body itself,as it lay on its back on the couch, could not be seen.The image was turned round and round by a mechanical device (Tropaion/Mechane),showing the twenty-three wounds in all parts of the body and on the face,that had been dealt to him so brutally.
Matthew 27:51 At that moment the Curtain of the Temple was torn in two from top to bottom. The Earth shook, and the Rocks split.
Appian The Civil Wars Book II 147.1 P501 (latter 3/4th of the paragraph)
The people could no longer bear the pitiful sight presented to them. They groaned, and, girding up their loins, they burned the senate-chamber where Caesar was slain, and ran hither and thither searching for the murderers, who had fled some time previously. They were so mad with rage and grief that meeting the tribune Cinna, on account of his similarity of name to the praetor Cinna who had made a speech against Caesar, not waiting to hear any explanation about the similarity of name, they tore him to pieces like wild beasts so that no part of him was ever found for burial. They carried fire to the houses of the other murderers, but the domestics besought them to desist. So the people abstained from the use of fire, but they threatened to come back with arms on the following day (Tribune's were sacrosanct,in the sense that any assault on their person was prohibited.)
Suetonius,The Lives of the Caesars Life of Julius Caesar 84.5 P117
At the height of the public grief a throng of foreigners went about lamenting each after the fashion of his country, above all the Jews, who even flocked to the place for several successive nights.(Caesar was seen as Messiah due to his respect of their Temple/Religion, and "Cyrus the Great" several centuries before was also seen as a nonJewish Messiah.)
Matthew 27:5 So Judas threw the money into the temple and left.Then he went away and hanged himself.
Plutarch, The Parallel Lives Life of Caesar 69.13 p609
13 but as he was about to fight the second battle, the same phantom visited him again at night, and though it said nothing to him, Brutus understood his fate, and plunged headlong into danger. 14 He did not fall in battle, however, but after the rout retired to a crest of ground, put his naked sword to his breast (while a certain friend, as they say, helped to drive the blow home), and so died.
Matthew 27:45 From the sixth hour darkness came over the land.
Plutarch, The Parallel Lives Life of Caesar 69.4 P607
4 and among events of divine ordering, there was the great comet, which showed itself in great splendour for seven nights after Caesar's murder, and then disappeared; also, the obscuration of the sun's rays. 5 For during all that year its orb rose pale and without radiance, while the heat that came down from it was slight and ineffectual, so that the air in its circulation was dark and heavy owing to the feebleness of the warmth that penetrated it, and the fruits, imperfect and half ripe, withered away and shrivelled up on account of the coldness of the atmosphere.
Mark 2:2 "- We saw his star in the East and have come to worship him."
Matthew 28:3 His appearence was like Lightning, and his clothes were White as Snow.
Suetonius,The Lives of the Caesars Life of Julius Caesar 88.1 P119
He died in the fifty-sixth year of his age, and was numbered among the gods, not only by a formal decree, but also in the conviction of the common people. For at the first of the games which his heir Augustus gave in honour of his apotheosis, a comet shone for seven successive days, rising about the eleventh hour, and was believed to be the soul of Caesar, who had been taken to heaven; and this is why a star is set upon the crown of his head in his statue.
Comet of Caesar;Sidus Iulium ("Julian Star") or Caesaris Astrum ("Star of Caesar").
May 18, 44 BCE (China)
July 23–25, 44 BCE (Rome)
Absolute magnitude: 4.0 (Nearly as bright as Caesar's celestial Mother the Goddess of Love Venus) "kometes" Greek for Star with long Hair.
Matthew 27:52 The Tombs broke open and the bodies of many Holy people who had died were raised to life.
Matthew 27:54 When the Centurion and those with him who were guarding Jesus saw the Earthquake and all that happened, they were terrified , and exclaimed, "Surely he was the Son of God!"
The poet Virgil; Georgics (26 BCE) "The Portents At Julius Caesar's Death" BkI:461-497
So, the sun will give you signs of what late evening brings,
and from where a fair-weather wind blows the clouds,
or what the rain-filled southerly intends. Who dares to say
the sun tricks us? He often warns us that hidden troubles
threaten, that treachery and secret wars are breeding.
He pitied Rome when Caesar was killed,
and hid his shining face in gloomy darkness,
and an impious age feared eternal night.
At that time earth, and the level sea,
troublesome dogs, and fateful birds, gave omens.
How often Etna inundated the Cyclopes's fields,
streams of lava pouring from her shattered furnace,
hurling gouts of flame and molten rock!
In Germany they heard the clash of weapons,
across the sky, the Alps shook with strange quakes.
A great shout was heard, openly, in the silent groves,
and pale ghosts in strange forms were seen in the dark of night,
and, ah horror, creatures spoke like men.
Rivers stopped, earth split, and sad, the ivories wept
in the temples, and the bronze sweated.
Eridanus, king of the rivers, washed away forests
in the whirl of his maddened vortex, and swept
cattle and stables over the plains. Nor at that time
was there any lack of ominous marks in the dark entrails,
blood flowing in the wells, and mighty cities
echoing at night with the howls of wolves.
Never did greater lightning flash from a clear sky,
never did fatal comets shine more often.
So Philippi again saw Roman armies clash
amongst themselves, with equal weapons:
And the gods thought it not unfitting that Emathia and the broad plain
of Haemus, should twice be enriched with our blood.
And a time will come, when in those lands,
the farmer labouring at the earth with curved plough,
will come upon spears eaten by scabrous rust,
or strike an empty helmet with his heavy hoe,
and wonder at giant bones in the opened grave.
Ancient Romans would add water to wine,because drinking straight wine was considered uncivilized.
http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/R ... stus*.html
http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/R ... esar*.html
http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/R ... rs/2*.html
http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/R ... lius*.html
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/txt/ah/caesa ... Gal08.html
http://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITB ... c533589855
Evidence for Julius Caesar besides his own writings for example "Gallic Wars Commentaries."
~Sallust(86-34BC)~Suetonius(c75-120AD)~Plutarch (46-127AD)~Appian(c95-165AD)~Cicero
~Dio Cassius~Livy~Lucan~Valerius Maximus~Vitruvius~Catullus
Evidence for Jesus is only the New Testament (unless you count vague OT prophecy.)
Jesus 6 BCE-33 CE? (No mention of Jesus by anyone,or even about Matthew 27:52-:53.)
Pauline Epistles 51-58 CE (The letters considered genuine tell very little about an Earthly Jesus, Not an eyewitness, and have some interpolations/redactions.)
Romans Sack Judea 70 CE
The Gospels are labeled by Church tradition, and are from unknown Greek educated writers.
Mark 65-70? CE (Dates are an estimate from textual scrutiny by scholars.)
Matthew 75-80? CE
Luke 75-90 CE?
John 85-125? CE
|Sun Jan 12, 2014 6:15 pm
Re: Jesus Was Julius Caesar
If anyone happens to come across actual historical information that ancient Roman citizens smeared ashes on their foreheads from Caesar's funeral pyre?...Please post it here.Thanks
|Sun Jan 12, 2014 6:19 pm
Re: Jesus Was Julius Caesar
Now what did "Constantine I" stop the persecution of?
Persecution of Christians, or was there an infighting of the fractured sects of the Imperial
Cult like the Religious fighting each other we see today?
The early church apologist Eusebius was associated with "Constantine I" at the time in one
form, or another.
Eusebius, Ecclesiastical History, Vol. 8, chapter 2.
"We shall introduce into this history in general only those events which may be useful first
to ourselves and afterwards to posterity."
Letters of Emperor Antoninus Pius to the Greeks.
Forth century Bishop Eusebius (Ecclesiastic History, IV, 13). In these "letters", Eusebius has this 2nd century pagan forbidding "tumults (agitation) against the Christians." Most historians concede them to be frauds, probably composed by Eusebius himself.
Letter from Jesus to King of Edessa
Offered up as having been written by Jesus himself to a king (Scholars now believe composed by Eusebius).
fem. proper name, from Latin (Maria) Magdalena, from Greek Magdalene, literally "woman of Magdala," from Aramaic Maghdela, place on the Sea of Galilee, literally "tower."
Cleopatra had a son with Caesar named "Caesarion",and titled "King of Kings".Caesarion was put to death by Octavian on the advice "There cannot be two Caesars."
Cleopatra VI:The Lighthouse of Alexandria,tower built by the Ptolemaic Kingdom of Greeks that ruled Egypt.Her mausoleum is uncertain, though the Egyptian Antiquities Service believes it is in or near the temple of Taposiris Magna (tomb of Osiris,wich is near a reconstruction of the lighthouse tower), southwest of Alexandria near Lake Mariout (The name derives from Mareotis or Marea (Etymology of Mary), the name of the lake,and small Capital in ancient times.
Mark 1:15 "The time has come," he said "The Kingdom of God is near. Repent and believe the good news!"
Plutarch, The Parallel Lives Life of Caesar 11.6 P470
6 His friends were astonished, and asked the reason for his tears. "Do you not think," said he, "it is matter for sorrow that while Alexander, at my age, was already king of so many peoples, I have as yet achieved no brilliant success?"[/QUOTE]
Yes there are many similarities with Augustus, and Julius Caesar to Jesus Christ.
Julius claimed lineage to the Goddess of love "Venus."
Julius forgave sins by invoking the Goddess "Clementia" the personification of clemency.
Octavian's (Augustus) posthumous adoption made him "Divis Fillious" (son of God), and was called the "Prince of Peace" during the Pax Romana.
Julius gave his private garden to the public, and every citizen money in his will.
Francesco Carrota's film "Gospel of Caesar", or his book "Jesus Was Caesar" lists more, and goes in more detail.
The euhemerism of Pagan deities, combined with Platonism philosophy, Judaism, the Logos of Philo. Gnosticism, and the Imperial Cult of Caesar rolled into one person.It's like when Companies consolidate into one big Corporation.
Someone sent me a video with a linguistic hypothesis?
|Tue Jan 14, 2014 2:28 pm
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By Jove nobody here has got it?
Jove:Roman god of the bright sky, late 14c., from Latin Iovis, from PIE *dyeu- "to shine," with derivatives referring to the sky, heavens, a god (see diurnal, and cf. Zeus). In classical Latin, the compound Iuppiter replaced Old Latin Iovis as the god's name.
jovial (adj.)
1580s, "under the influence of the planet Jupiter," from Middle French jovial (16c.), from Italian joviale, literally "pertaining to Jupiter," and directly from Latin Iovialis "of Jupiter," from Iovius (used as genitive of Iuppiter) "Jupiter," Roman god of the sky (see Jove). The meaning "good-humored, merry," is from astrological belief that those born under the sign of the planet Jupiter are of such dispositions. Related: Jovially.
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?all ... hmode=none
Spiritus (Latin for Breath/Air)
|Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:49 pm
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Re: Jesus Was Julius Caesar
davros of skaro wrote:By Jove nobody here has got it?
Got what? To be honest, I didn't read your thread. It sounds a lot like inane babble.
"Sometimes people don't want to hear the truth because they don't want their illusions destroyed." ― Friedrich Nietzsche
"I shall achieve my objectives through the power... of Science!" --LessWrong
|Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:47 pm
Re: Jesus Was Julius Caesar
Inferno wrote:davros of skaro wrote:By Jove nobody here has got it?
Oh. Nevermind then, just let me inanely babble on.Thanks
The Gospels are full of Paganism, and here is an example.
John 6:54
"Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the
last day."
This is a ritual for the God of Wine "Dionysus" where the flesh is the Pulp (Grape Skins),
and the Blood is Wine.
This latter rite was a sacrament akin to communion in which the participants assumed the
strength and character of the god by symbolically eating the raw flesh and drinking the blood
of his symbolic incarnation. Having symbolically eaten his body and drunk his blood, the
celebrants became possessed by Dionysus.This belief was even carried over to sword making
where animal, or human Bones were added to the raw Iron in the forging process, which
consequently added Carbon, but believed to enhance it's magical properties (being able to
bend without breaking.)
Take a look at the symbolism in the picture of an ancient Greek vase.The women are
gathered around an effigy of Dionysus mounted on a sacred Tropaion (symbol of victory.)The
Women are symbolically eating the flesh, and blood of their God that is being ladled out from
the Wine filled Vases.Sometimes a special plant would be added to the mix so they can see
their God, and Angels flying around in person (notice the actions of the Women on the far left, and right.)
|Thu Jan 16, 2014 5:18 am
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