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Avalanche 3, Flames 2, OT
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CALGARY, Alberta (AP) -Credit this Avalanche win to Jose Theodore.
Ryan Smyth scored 23 seconds into overtime and Theodore made 39 saves to give Colorado a 3-2 victory over the Calgary Flames on Friday night.
Marek Svatos tied it at 2 with 4:15 left in regulation. Joe Sakic set up the winner and also scored for Colorado to reach the 1,600-point mark.
With the win, Colorado coach Joel Quenneville now has 400 career NHL victories.
"Well, we are very fortunate," Quenneville said. "It was one of those games where we were on our heels.
"It was a game we certainly didn't deserve to win but sometimes you get goaltending wins."
Alex Tanguay and Matthew Lombardi scored for Calgary, and Miikka Kiprusoff made 19 saves.
The Avalanche opened the scoring when Sakic converted a feed from Wojtek Wolski at 7:27 of the first period. A short time later, Tanguay got behind the Avalanche defense, but was thwarted by Theodore on a breakaway attempt.
"We feel very fortunate to get the two points and that's what great goaltending will do for you," Sakic said. "All the credit goes to Theo for keeping us in there and giving us a chance."
Tanguay scored on his next try, taking a pass from Daymond Langkow and snapping a quick shot to the top corner.
The Flames took a 2-1 lead in the second on Lombardi's goal. He stripped took the puck from Avs defenseman Jeff Finger before snapping a quick shot past Theodore.
Early in the third, the Flames had a great opportunity to pull ahead on an extended two-man advantage. Tanguay appeared to score his second of the game, with his shot squeaking through Theodore's pads and just across the goal line, but referee Michael McGeough immediately blew the whistle to signify he lost sight of the puck.
"I hope he'll admit his mistake because it was definitely a mistake," Tanguay said. "I made the pass to Langkow and he touched the puck.
"The puck, you can clearly see it on the replay, it never stopped moving, so there's no reason why the whistle should have been blown or at least why he didn't review it."
Just as a high-sticking penalty to Tanguay was about to expire, the Avs tied it when Svatos backhanded a rebound past Kiprusoff.
Notes: Sakic has 100 points against the Flames, 40 goals and 60 assists. ... Colorado coach Joel Quenneville reached 400 NHL victories and brunette scored his 500th goal. ... Avalanche defenseman Jordan Leopold will be sidelined for about two months by wrist surgery.
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Avalanche 3, Wild 1
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DENVER (AP) -Ryan Smyth had a goal and an assist and Joe Sakic added two assists Sunday, leading the Colorado Avalanche past the Minnesota Wild 3-1.
The Wild are 0-2-1 since starting the season 7-0-1. The Avalanche improved to 5-0-0 at home.
Peter Budaj had 29 saves for the Avalanche. Minnesota rookie Josh Harding, starting consecutive games for the first time, made 19 saves. He replaced Niklas Backstrom, who had a groin injury. Minnesota forwards Pavol Demitra and Marian Gabork also sat out with groin injuries.
Colorado outshot the Wild 14-5 in the second period and broke through at 15:30. Sakic corralled the puck behind the Minnesota net and passed to the left side of the goal. Svatos skated across the front of the net and slid a backhander past Harding for his fifth goal of the season.
The Wild nearly tied it with 2:58 left in the game. Petteri Nummelin skated around the back of the net with the puck and tried to put a shot into the top of the net. Budaj reached with his glove and made the save.
Wojtek Wolski got an insurance goal with 37 seconds left when Paul Stastny fed him in the slot and he beat Harding with a one-timer.
The Avalanche got on the board first when Smyth worked a give-and-go with Sakic and beat Harding with a one-timer at the 8:29 mark of the opening period.
Minnesota tied it on a power play when Bouchard's pass from the corner found Eric Belanger between the circles, and Belanger wristed a shot past Budaj with 4:18 left in the first period.
Notes: Backstrom and Gaborik injured their groins during practice Saturday. Demitra was hurt in Minnesota's win over Colorado on Oct. 21. ... Svatos and Smyth tied Sakic and Stastny for the Avalanche team lead in goals. ... Colorado forward Milan Hejduk missed his fourth straight game with a back injury. ... Sunday's game time was moved from 6 p.m. MDT to 1 p.m. to avoid a conflict with Game 4 of the World Series, which was played at Coors Field in Denver.
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On Tuesday night, hockey fans in Minnesota saw how Sidney Crosby appeared to score at will. Fans in Colorado will get their first live look at the reigning NHL MVP next.
Coming off his best offensive game this season, Crosby will try to lead the Pittsburgh Penguins to their fourth straight road win when they meet the streaking Colorado Avalanche on Thursday night.
Playing his first game as a pro in Minnesota on Tuesday night, Crosby had a goal and three assists for a season high four points in the Penguins' 4-2 win over the Wild. It was the eighth career four-point game for Crosby, who scored 72 goals in 57 games in 2002-03 as a prep school star at Shattuck-St. Mary's in Faribault, Minn.
"It's fun to be able to come here and play," Crosby said. "No matter how the night ended up, it's just nice because I was here before, watching games and dreamed of one day playing in the NHL and playing here. It's really a bonus to come out of here with a win."
After being held without a point in a season-opening loss to Carolina on Oct. 5, Crosby has had at least one in all 10 games since then, totaling five goals and 12 assists. He's tied with Calgary's Daymond Langkow for fifth in league in scoring, five points behind league-leading Henrik Zetterberg of Detroit.
Crosby has faced Colorado once in his career, posting an assist in the Penguins' 4-3 home win on Dec, 10, 2005.
Evgeni Malkin scored twice in the win over the Wild, and has three goals and six assists in a four-game points streak. Malkin, the 2006-07 Calder Trophy winner, is one point behind Crosby for the team lead.
With his two goals, Malkin now has 101 career points in just 89 games. The only active player to reach 100 points quicker was Washington's Alex Ovechkin, who needed just 77 games in 2005-06.
Dany Sabourin got the start in goal ahead for the Penguins (6-4-1) ahead of Marc-Andre Fleury, and improved to 2-0-1 with a 2.06 goals-against average. If Sabourin starts against the Avalanche, it would mark the first time this season he will start two straight games.
Fleury is 0-1-0 with a 5.99 GAA in his last two starts.
Colorado (7-4-0) won its third in a row overall and remained unbeaten at home following a 3-1 victory over Minnesota on Sunday. Ryan Smyth had a goal and assist and Joe Sakic added two assists for the Avalanche, who improved to 5-0-0 at the Pepsi Center for the first time since moving from Quebec in 1995.
"Certain things were pointed out going into the season, and winning at home and playing well at home was important," Avalanche coach Joel Quenneville said.
Smyth, a key free-agent acquisition in the offseason, has been a driving force behind Colorado's unprecedented home start, tallying three goals and four assists in his last four games there.
Sakic, who has a goal and four assists in a five-game run overall, has fared well on home ice against the Penguins. In 16 games dating back to December 1989, Sakic has a point in all but one with 14 goals and 18 assists.
Since Oct. 10, 1993, Sakic has points in 11 straight home games against Pittsburgh. He has 12 goals and 13 assists over that stretch with Colorado going 7-2-0 with two ties.
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what? the Avs actually playing well early in a season!? 6-0 at the Pepsi Center, no less. Hopefully they can continue to reverse the recent trend of sucking at home.
Anyone have thoughts on the whole Budaj-Theodore rotation? I guess it's working pretty well right now, so I can't gripe. I just wonder what you do once you get to the postseason. Of course that would be a nice dilemma to have if we head into the playoffs with two good goaltenders.
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The team needs a true #1 goaltender i hate musical goalies (it rarely works if the D is playing like shyt the goalies can't get into a groove and when they slide to the side slightly Q yanks em. (how is that a motivator?) The most important part to this puzzle is having a consistant D playing in front of your tender it really take alot of pressure off budaj and theo both of which are not great goalies.
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Canucks-Avalanche Nov 3, 2007, 10:00 PM EDT
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The Avalanche are making Colorado one of the worst places to play for visiting teams.
They'll try to set a franchise record with their seventh straight home win to start a season when they meet the Vancouver Canucks on Saturday.
The Avalanche (8-4-0) beat Pittsburgh 3-2 on Thursday, matching the best home start in franchise history. The team also won six straight on its own ice to begin the 1994-95 season when it was still in Quebec.
"I guess records are always there as a mark to shoot for," defenseman Kurt Sauer told the Avalanche's official Web site. "The big thing is getting that confidence at home. It's always good to come into your own barn feeling good and to be able to come out with a win."
Colorado has scored at least three goals in each of its home games while outscoring opponents 25-13. Saturday's game will be the third on a five-game homestand.
The Avalanche join Philadelphia (4-0) as the only teams which have yet to lose at home.
"There's no question it's an unbelievable start," said Colorado's Ryan Smyth, who had an assist in his 800th game Thursday. "But sometimes it's not how you start, but how you finish.
"We'll feed off the wins we've got here at home and let people know around the league that it's a tough place to come play."
Wotjek Wolski scored against the Penguins and has a career-best eight-game point streak. Fellow forward Joe Sakic extended his point streak to six games with an assist.
The Avalanche have won four straight overall and play 10 of their next 11 against Northwest Division opponents. They have won six of their last eight home games against Vancouver (5-8-0), which is opening a stretch of eight straight games against division foes.
The Canucks have only one win at home this season but are 4-2-0 on the road. They have dropped six of eight overall and are coming off Thursday's 3-0 loss to Nashville - their first shutout defeat of the season.
"You've just got to battle through these things," goalie Roberto Luongo told the Canucks' official Web site. "When things aren't going your way, you just have to work harder during practice and make sure it carries over going into the games.
"Right now we're facing some adversity, but we've got to regroup as a team and come back the next game."
The loss was especially costly for Vancouver, as defensemen Kevin Bieksa and Sami Salo were both injured.
Bieksa will miss up to eight weeks after sustaining a deep cut on his right calf from the skate of Nashville's Vernon Fiddler. Salo, playing only his fourth game after returning to the lineup from a wrist injury, was hit in the face by a shot from teammate Alex Edler, and it is unclear when he will be able to return.
The Canucks, who also are without defenseman Lukas Krajicek for four weeks because of a broken foot, called up Luc Bourdon from the AHL's Manitoba Moose to fill in on the blue line.
"We're going to play our way through this - that's all we can do right now," coach Alain Vigneault said.
Quick Hits
* The Avalanche won the faceoff battle for the 2nd straight game!
* The Avs are currently at a pace to reach 109 points
* Colorados 4th line had 5 points (1g, 4a), 7 of the teams 11 hits, and 2 blocked shots.
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Canucks 4, Avalanche 3
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DENVER (AP) -Daniel Sedin could have talked about his offensive contributions. He preferred to talk about how the Vancouver Canucks' team defense cooled off the Colorado Avalanche.
"We had a solid game offensively, but also defensively," Daniel Sedin said. "When you play good defense that opens it up for the offense."
Daniel Sedin had two goals and an assist, Brendan Morrison had a goal and the Canucks dealt the Avalanche their first home loss with a 4-3 victory Saturday night.
Ryan Kesler added a goal and Henrik Sedin had three assists for Vancouver, losers of six of its previous eight games. Roberto Luongo made 30 saves.
"We're a good team, and we came in here and beat a team that is tough at home," Luongo said. "It's a big confidence builder for us. We have a lot of divisional games this month, and we have to get as many games as we can."
The Avalanche had matched a franchise record by opening the season with six home wins. The team had won six straight at home to start the 1994-95 season while in Quebec.
Philadelphia (4-0) is now the only team without a loss at home.
"Our team really battled hard tonight," Vancouver coach Alain Vigneault said. "I really liked our overall competitiveness."
Marek Svatos scored twice and Jeff Finger had a short-handed goal for the Avalanche, who had won four straight overall.
Peter Budaj stopped 18 shots and lost for the first time in three starts.
Vancouver led 1-0 after one period, taking advantage of an unforced turnover by Avalanche defenseman Kurt Sauer. Sauer put the puck right onto Markus Naslund's stick in the right circle. Naslund's pass to Henrik Sedin was nudged to Daniel Sedin, who sent a wrister past Budaj with 9:40 left.
The Canucks killed two penalties in the period. Luongo denied Paul Stastny's one-timer from the slot and a deflected shot by Ryan Smyth from behind the net.
Colorado tied it at 1 on Finger's short-handed goal with 8:06 left in the second period. Wyatt Smith passed the puck from the side boards to Finger, who sent a backhander underneath Luongo's stick.
"Smith made a great pass," Finger said. "I wouldn't say the shot was lucky, but I was fortunate to have it go in."
Vancouver regained the lead, 2-1, on a power-play goal by Morrison with 4:06 remaining in the second. Henrik Sedin found Morrison in front of the net, behind an Avalanche defenseman.
Kesler made it a two-goal lead 1:16 into the third period. Budaj stopped Taylor Pyatt, but the Kesler punched back the rebound.
Svatos brought Colorado within 3-2 with a power play goal at 5:06.
Daniel Sedin sealed the win with his second goal of the night with 6:35 left. The Canucks were skating on a two-man advantage.
"Naslund made a good play to get it to Henrik, and he got it to me and I had an open net on my first goal," Daniel Sedin said. "The second one was five-on-three so it wasn't much to it."
Vancouver was 2-for-6 on the power play for the game.
Svatos made it 4-3 after Colorado had pulled Budaj with 1:15 left in the game.
"We had too many penalties, but that wasn't our only problem," Colorado coach Joel Quenneville said. "We put the puck on sticks in dangerous areas and paid for it."
Notes: Morrison played in his 526th consecutive game, the longest current active streak. ... Luongo was shaken up briefly late in the first period when Smyth ran over him backwards over the goal line. ... Budaj appeared in his 100th game.
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It's amazing how Theo is coming back... if he continues like this, do we resign him with a more reasonable 1a or 1b Goalie salary? Will he take it?
I was pissed when we gave up Aebi for Theo, but I dont think anyone wants to see Theo succeed like I do.
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Oh by the way.... perhaps it's just sentiment, but -
(NOV 5th)
Shortly after breaking the bank to sign Dany Heatley, the Ottawa Senators last week signed Jason Spezza to a seven-year, $49 million contract. With a cap hit of $7 million, then, don't look for the Senators to be high on the list of Peter Forsberg suitors. If and when the Forsberg bidding begins in a couple of weeks, look for the Flyers, Avalanche and Red Wings to at least initially be the three most serious teams involved
And that was after this article on Canadian sports net - -
If Peter Forsberg decides to play again in the NHL, it will only be for a Stanley Cup contender. Which means the Ottawa Senators might be in line for another Swedish scorer.
A pair of NHL sources told the Toronto Sun that Ottawa and Colorado Avalanche are the only two teams on Forsberg's list. A decision from the star is expected by the middle of November.
Forsberg has a history in Colorado, winning Cups as a member of the Avalanche in both 1995/96 and 2000/01.
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Injury forces Forsberg to leave Swedish national team
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TORONTO - Hockey star Peter Forsberg left the Swedish national team Monday after suffering a setback with his troublesome right foot during practice, a source told The Canadian Press.
Forsberg, a free agent, has been trying to test out his foot to determine whether or not he'll be able to make a return to the NHL. He planned to represent Sweden at the Nov. 8-11 Karjala Cup in Helsinki but had to pull himself out of Monday's skate.
The 34-year-old's future is now murkier than ever as this latest withdrawal raises doubts on whether his surgically repaired ankles can handle the workload of a 12th NHL season.
Forsberg had practised with Modo in his hometown of Ornskoldsvik for the last few weeks before joining the national team. He's expected to revisit his doctors in North America before deciding on a next step.
Forsberg earned US$5.75 million with Philadelphia and Nashville last season, when he collected 55 points (13-42) in 57 games.
Injuries have plagued him in recent years and he hasn't played more than 60 games in a season since suiting up for 75 contests in 2002-03 with the Colorado Avalanche, when he scored 29 goals with 77 assists.
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Colorado Avalanche clear forward Brad Richardson
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DENVER (AP) -Colorado forward Brad Richardson, sidelined by an offseason wrist injury, was cleared to play Wednesday and reassigned to the Avalanche's AHL affiliate.
He'll play for the Lake Erie Monsters in Cleveland.
Richardson, who was injured during offseason workouts before training camp, posted career highs in games played (73), goals (14) and points (22) last season with the Avalanche. Richardson had three shorthanded goals and three game-winning goals last season.
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Oilers-Avalanche Nov 7, 2007, 9:30 PM EST
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With a formidable top line carrying them offensively, the Colorado Avalanche are making a run at the top spot in the Northwest Division.
The Avalanche look to continue their roll when they host the struggling Edmonton Oilers on Wednesday night.
Behind the forward unit of Paul Stastny, Wojtek Wolski and Milan Hejduk, Colorado (9-5-0) won for the fifth time in six games Monday, 4-1 over Calgary. The offense came almost exclusively from the Avs' top line, as Stastny scored two goals, Wolski added a goal and two assists and Hejduk had three assists. The trio was plus-9 in addition to totaling eight points.
"We're clicking right now," Wolski said. "The effort is there and good chances come from good effort. We work well together, too. This isn't something that happened overnight. It took time."
The three players have helped power Colorado during its six-game surge, with Wolski recording four goals and three assists and Stastny adding two goals and three assists over that span. Hejduk, who missed five games in October due to a back problem, recorded his first points Monday since a two-goal, one-assist performance in a win over Columbus on Oct. 13.
"We are comfortable with each other," said Stastny, who had his first multigoal game since his hat trick opening night. "We played together all last year. We have developed a comfort level."
Colorado captain Joe Sakic extended his point streak to eight games with an assist. The 38-year-old center has a goal and 10 assists during the streak, giving him five goals and 11 assists on the season.
Coach Joel Quenneville's team also got a goal from Andrew Brunette as it pulled to within two points of first-place Minnesota.
"I thought our game was very strong," Quenneville said. "We got something from all the lines."
While Colorado has found its game, Edmonton (5-10-0) is languishing in last place in the Northwest. The Oilers lost for the third straight time Monday, 5-2 to the Wild.
Edmonton gave up four power-play goals and went 1-for-6 with the man advantage, falling to a league-worst 4-for-60 this season. The Oilers have a league-low 10 points in 15 games.
"We're a close-knit team, and we're going to stay positive," said center Shawn Horcoff, who scored in the second period. "We've got a lot of injuries, but we're not making any excuses when it comes to losing games here. We're going to let go of this one and work hard tomorrow."
Edmonton is suffering from the absence of several injured veteran defensemen including All-Star Sheldon Souray, forcing blueliners like Denis Grebeshkov, Dick Tarnstrom and Tom Gilbert into significant time on the penalty kill.
"You can commend the effort and intensity, but you've got to play this game with your head or else you're going to get picked apart. We were moving around the ice like chickens with our heads cut off," coach Craig MacTavish said.
The Avalanche are 5-1-1 in their last seven meetings with the Oilers, although they've dropped four of the last five matchups at the Pepsi Center.
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Avalanche battle for a 4-3 win over Oilers
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DENVER - Ian Laperriere won't win any beauty pageants.
Neither will his goals. Laperriere scored two goals and assisted on another as the Colorado Avalanche beat the Edmonton Oilers 4-3 in a shootout Wednesday night. Wojtek Wolski and Marek Svatos scored shootout goals and the Avalanche won for the sixth time in seven games.
There's nothing complicated about Laperriere's game - crash the net, find the puck, knock it in. He'll do whatever it takes to score.
That's evident by his face. His nose is bent to the right, he's got stitches over his left eye and bruises on his left cheek bone. He'll sacrifice his body for the good of the team.
"I'm not a goal scorer but I know I can help the team in that regard," Laperriere said. "I was at the right place at the right time."
That always seems to be the case when he's playing Edmonton. Laperriere's last two-goal game came last March against the Oilers.
"Laperriere scores against us all the time," Oilers coach Craig MacTavish said. "Junkyard goals."
Ryan Smyth played against his former team for the second time this season. His wrist shot in the shootout was stuffed by Roloson. He logged 20 minutes, 32 seconds of ice time and took three shots.
Smyth played parts of 12 seasons with Edmonton, appearing in 770 regular season games. It's the fifth most in franchise history.
Budaj finished the game with 30 saves, but came up big in the shootout, turning back Sam Gagner, Ales Hemsky and Marty Reasoner.
"They have good shooters," Budaj said. "But the guys came through. It was a big win."
The Oilers remain winless in their last four games. Yet the Edmonton players took solace in the effort after losing 5-2 to the Minnesota Wild on Monday night.
"We came out and showed that we cared, showed that we have respect for the organization," Jarret Stoll said. "We weren't happy with our last outing. We played really hard and battled in every area. They are a good hockey team."
Dwayne Roloson feels like an unlucky goalie right now. Roloson gave up three goals on eight first-period shots against the Wild, before being yanked.
He bounced back with 35 saves against Colorado, but couldn't preserve a 3-2 lead. Laperriere scored his second goal of the game 2:20 into the third period to tie the game at 3.
"I didn't have any luck tonight," Roloson said.
The Oilers scored three times in the first period on goals from Kyle Brodziak, Tom Gilbert and Hemsky. It was a change of pace as Edmonton had been held scoreless in the opening period of its last three games.
"Way more positives than negatives," Stoll said.
Although the Oilers stopped Colorado's red-hot second line, the Avalanche's checking line of Laperriere, Ben Guite and Tyler Arnason picked up the slack. Arnason had a goal and an assist and Guite chipped in an assist.
"I think they were very good," Colorado coach Joel Quenneville said.
Colorado is now 8-1 at home this season, matching Ottawa for the best home record in the NHL.
"We found a way to win and that's all that matters right now," Laperriere said.
A win doesn't always have to be pretty, kind of like Laperriere's goals.
"Nothing complicated from my game," Laperriere said with a grin.
Notes: Avalanche F Joe Sakic's eight-game assist and point streak was halted. Sakic's shot in the shootout clanged off the crossbar. ... Wolski played in his 100th game Wednesday night. ... The Oilers entered the game last in the league in power-play goals. They're 5-for-64 this season. ... It was Edmonton's first loss in a shootout this season. The team is now 3-1. ... The Avalanche now have an all-time record of 10-10 in shootouts.
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I'm pretty excited about the Avs this year. After perhaps the most dissappointing season they've ever had (up there with 03-04), they look pretty good this year. Theo is looking a lot better this year too.
I'm only worried about holding on to our young crop, who look to be very good for a long time. I'm talking about Stasny, Wolski, Liles, and Svatos.
Leopold is worthless (imagine if we never traded Tanguay for him).
All this amidst the possibility - if only ever so slight - that Forsberg might return this year.
If, hypothetically, Forsberg does return this year, I say give him what he wants. Even if he turns out to be a washed up 2nd or 3rd liner, it would be worth it having him on the team based on his history, leadership, and grit. I still think he's one of the best defensive fowards, and his offensive skill are still very good (55 points in 57 games last year).
Richardson was a great 3rd line guy for us last year. He brings energy, and decent talent for his role. He's at least better suited for the Avs than Wyatt Smith, Hlinka, or even Guite - he's younger too.
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Having the Western Conference's best home record has helped the Colorado Avalanche move into a tie atop the Northwest Division. Better efforts on the road should help keep them there.
On Friday night, the Avalanche will try for their third straight road win and move into sole possession of the division lead as they meet the Vancouver Canucks, who are trying to avoid their first five-game losing streak at GM Place in nearly two years.
While the Avalanche are 8-1-0 at home, their play away from the Pepsi Center has improved recently after a rough start. Colorado scored only six goals while losing its first four road games, but have since notched a total of seven in wins at Edmonton and Calgary.
And in spite of their inconsistent play on the road, Colorado has 20 points to tie Minnesota for the Northwest lead. The Wild are idle on Friday.
This contest also is the start of a tough two-week stretch for Colorado (10-5-0), which will play five of its next six on the road, including three in row at Minnesota, Calgary and Edmonton starting on Nov. 16.
The Avalanche wrapped up a four-game homestand on Wednesday with a 4-3 shootout win over Edmonton. Ian Laperriere scored twice in regulation before Wojtek Wolski and Marek Svatos scored in the shootout.
"Tonight, I was in the right place at the right time," Laperriere said. "I'm not a goal scorer, but I know I can help my team in that regard."
Colorado's lone home loss this season came Saturday when Vancouver (7-8-0) came away with a 4-3 win. Daniel Sedin had two goals and an assist while twin brother Henrik added three assists.
Svatos scored twice for Colorado, and Joe Sakic added an assist. Sakic, the Avalanche's longtime captain and all-time scoring leader, has 15 goals and and 33 assists in 34 games there.
The Canucks, who haven't lost five straight at home since Dec. 17-26, 2005, return there after a 3-2 win over Calgary on Thursday. Roberto Luongo, who's struggled after a career-best 47-win season in 2006-07 to the lead Vancouver to the Northwest title, made 22 of his 36 saves in the final period.
"We won two big games on the road in two hard buildings to win in," said Luongo, who also may have made Canucks fans nervous when he allowed goals 33 seconds apart to Anders Eriksson and Owen Nolan midway through the third period.
Last season, Luongo did not lose more than three straight at home en route to a 26-11-4 record with a 2.35 goals-against average. He comes into this contest having lost his last four home starts and is 1-6-0 with a 3.37 GAA at GM Place.
Luongo has surrendered at least three goals in all his home losses, and he's given up seven goals while losing his last two home starts against the Avalanche.
Brendan Morrison, former Flame Byron Ritchie and Alex Burrows scored in a 5:42 span of the second period on Wednesday as Vancouver won for the fifth time in seven road games.
And, in goal tonight ...
oel Quenneville knows there are critics. He knows some say he has gone mad the way he uses - and according to his critics, abuses - his goalies.
But the Avalanche coach has a method to his madness, one he hopes will have a huge payoff for his team in the end. While most NHL teams today are content with having a No. 1 goalie who sees the vast majority of game action, Quenneville is rolling the dice that his team can have two No. 1s. And, that the goalies, Peter Budaj and Jose Theodore, will embrace the "share and share alike" philosophy, without ego issues or petty jealousies that have surfaced in some past goalie rotations.
For Quenneville and the Avs, it's a case of so far, so good. Colorado takes a 10-5 record
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into tonight's game at Vancouver, with Budaj having six of the wins to the four for Theodore, tonight's starter. The two have alternated starts the past six games and, while Quenne- ville said the rotation might not stay equal for various reasons, he sees no reason to change things now.
"I just think both guys are playing pretty well, and keep 'em both playing," Quenneville said. "I think it's competitive among the two of them. I think it's healthy, but I think there's a genuine sincerity that the other guy does well. Both guys had an opportunity to get the net at the start of the year, and they're both doing what we were hoping they'd do."
Pure goalie rotations aren't as prevalent in the NHL as they used to be. Some teams used to carry three goalies on a roster, with all three seeing action on a consistent basis. Now, teams rarely carry more than two, and their designations usually are clear: the No. 1 and his backup.
Goalie clashes
When the designations aren't clear, there can be problems, similar to some starting quarterback feuds in the NFL. Ed Belfour and Jeff Hackett, now the Avalanche's goalie coach, clashed in Chicago in the 1996-97 season over playing time. Former Avs
Jose Theodore | Games: 6 ... Record: 4-2-0 ... GAA: 2.28 ... Save %: .918 (Getty | Doug Pensinger)
goalie Patrick Roy never liked sharing playing duties, and his relationship with Brian Hayward on the Montreal Canadiens in the 1980s was stormy when Hayward's playing time increased. In 1986-87, Hayward's save percentage and goals-against average were better than Roy's, and he played 37 games.
"I think Pat was always a little bit frustrated at me playing so much," Hayward said. "I remember he and I discussing it, and him saying, 'I just can't play, if we have four games in a week, I can't play two of them. I need to play three or four.' And I would just kind of say, 'Well, then, you go out and outplay me because I'm going to go out there and try to outplay you.' That's just the way it was. Very competitive."
But there do not seem to be any jealousy issues between Budaj and Theodore. The two appear to enjoy each other's company and often can be seen talking about games at their conclusion.
Budaj, in his third year in the league, credits Theodore, the former Hart Trophy winner, for much of their harmony.
"I've tried to be good to Jose, and Jose has been nothing but great to me," Budaj said. "We talk about stuff, and he helps me out. It's awesome to have a relationship like that. I think it's much better to play on a team where the other goalie is your friend. Otherwise, it wouldn't be fun. There would be more pressure, and it wouldn't be a good atmosphere in the dressing room."
Hall of Fame coach Scotty Bowman believes an equal goalie rotation can work well. It did for him as coach of the Buffalo Sabres in the 1980s. In 1979-80, Bob Sauve and Don Edwards split the goalie duties fairly equally, and they combined for the fewest goals allowed in the league. The next season, they played close to an equal amount as well.
"They were both playing pretty well, and I had just got there and didn't know much about them," Bowman said. "We just went with the both of them. We couldn't distinguish one from the other too well."
A goalie that plays only a handful of games per season has what Bowman calls "the toughest job in the league."
"You practice all the time, but when you go in they want you to be in game shape. It's tough," Bowman
Peter Budaj | Games: 10 ... Record: 6-3-0 ... GAA: 2.95 ... Save %: .894 (NHLI | Michael Martin)
Bowman's guess is that one of the two Avs goalies will eventually "grab the job," and Quenneville indicated that may happen. But if both continue to play well, who knows?
"It's early in the year, and I'm not saying that's how it's going to be all year," Quenneville said. "It's not etched in stone that it's going to happen. But we'll just see how it progresses."
Theodore credits his goalie coach, Hackett, for helping him learn how to co-exist in harmony with a fellow goalie. The two shared much of the goaltending duties for Montreal in the late 1990s.
"Hack was always great to me. He was the veteran and I was the younger guy, but he really made me feel comfortable and was always a friend," Theodore said. "And it's great still having him around to talk to. He's a great guy to learn from."
Winning helps rotation
Hall of Fame goalie Grant Fuhr says for any goalie rotation to work, both have to be playing fairly well and feel good about their own play, along with the team's. That was never a problem with him on the great Edmonton teams of the 1980s, when he split the goalie duties fairly evenly with Andy Moog.
"We just wanted to win, bottom line, so we were happy for each other, because we won a lot," Fuhr said, laughing. "We certainly didn't lack for goal support. But at the same time, yeah, it was a little competitive, too, but in a good way. If you're happy not playing, you shouldn't be in the league. But when everybody's winning and doing well, everybody's happy."
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A fab five rotation
The Avalanche has rotated goalies Peter Budaj and Jose Theodore, with both having solid starts while helping the team to a 10-5 record. Budaj has won six games, and Theodore has won four. Here's a look at successful NHL goalie rotations from the past:
1968-69 St. Louis Blues
Jacques Plante: GP 37, 18-12-6
Glenn Hall: GP 41, 19-12-8
1979-80 Buffalo Sabres
Bob Sauve: GP 32, 20-8-4
Don Edwards: GP 49, 27-9-12
1980-81 New York Islanders
Billy Smith: GP 41, 22-10-8
Chico Resch: GP 32, 18-7-5
1985-86 Edmonton Oilers
Grant Fuhr: GP 40, 29-8-0
Andy Moog: GP 47, 27-9-7
2003-04 Minnesota Wild
Dwayne Roloson: GP 48, 19-18-11
Manny Fernandez: GP 37, 11-14-9
Hot Jose
Jose Theodore, who will start in goal for the Avalanche tonight, has won his past three starts. That matches the longest regular-season win streak of his Colorado career. Here is Theodore's previous best stretch with the Avs:
Oct. 29, 2006 vs. Minnesota
4-1 win, 21 shots, 20 saves.
Nov. 1, 2006 at Columbus
5-3 win, 44 shots, 41 saves
Nov. 4, 2006 vs. Vancouver
3-2 win, 38 shots, 36 saves
Theodore had one other three-game win streak in Games 1-3 of the 2006 Western Conference quarterfinals vs. Dallas.
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Spotlight on Markus Naslund: A three-time 40-goal scorer, Naslund is off to a decent start with 11 points in 14 games.
But there appears little question that his career is on the decline. He scored 60 points in 82 games last season, considered a big disappointment. His pure goal-scoring ability isn't what it used to be.
Avalanche: The Avs on Thursday acquired goalie Jason Bacashihua from the St. Louis Blues for a conditional seventh-round draft choice in 2008. Bacashihua has played four games with the Peoria Rivermen of the American Hockey League this season. He has played 38 career NHL games with St. Louis, compiling a 7-17-4 record. He was assigned by the Avs to Lake Erie of the AHL. ... The Avs suffered their only home loss of the season to Vancouver on Saturday. ... Jose Theodore will get the start in goal for Colorado.
Canucks: The Canucks played at Calgary on Thursday night, their first game since Saturday's win in Denver. After tonight's game, the Canucks won't play again until Wednesday. "I wouldn't say it bothers us, but as a goalie, personally, I would prefer to play every couple of days just to stay in that rhythm," goalie Roberto Luongo told the Vancouver Sun. "But at the same time, it's good in a way, so you can get some good work done in practice and work on some stuff that needs to be improved. You can look at it either way."
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Canucks 2, Avalanche 1, OT
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VANCOUVER, British Columbia (AP) -Henrik Sedin wasn't worried how his goals looked, as long as they counted. Probably only one of them should have.
Sedin scored his first goal on a controversial high stick early in the second period, and added his second of the game 1:22 in overtime, lifting the Vancouver Canucks to a 2-1 win over the Colorado Avalanche on Friday night.
Sedin was attempting to hit twin brother Daniel Sedin with a backdoor pass, but the puck deflected off defenseman Kurt Sauer and past a helpless Jose Theodore.
"Most of them are ugly, I don't think I've scored from further out that 10 feet," said Henrik. "The second one was supposed to be a pass."
The first one looked more like a bunt, with Henrik knocking a rebound out of the air with Theodore still prone along the ice. It came not long after Daniel Sedin jammed in a loose puck just as Theodore was covering it with his glove. The referee indicated he'd already blown the whistle.
"That's a borderline call, just like the second one was," Henrik said. "We could have had none of the two so I'm happy with one."
The Avalanche didn't think they should have had either.
"It was clearly a mistake," Colorado coach Joel Quenneville said.
Sedin's stick appeared to be just above the cross bar when it made contact with the puck, but it was signaled a goal on the ice and a lengthy video review failed to produce an angle conclusive enough to overturn the call.
"It started above the cross bar but I think when I touched the puck it might have been level with the cross bar," Henrik said sheepishly. "I ll take it."
Roberto Luongo made 24 saves as Vancouver won its third straight game - and just its second in eight home games - to get back to .500 (8-8-0).
The three-game win streak started after the Canucks lost top-4 defensemen Sami Salo and Kevin Bieksa to serious injuries in a bad loss to Nashville. Vancouver has simplified its game since then, playing better defensively as a team, and getting big performances from their star goalie.
"We've really eliminated a lot of scoring chances," said Luongo, who made 36 saves in win in Calgary the night before. "It definitely brought the guys together more and we changed a few things in our system as far as our forecheck and guys collapsing down low in the slot area."
John-Michael Liles tied it 1:01 into the third period with a point shot that deflected in off the skate of defenseman Willie Mitchell as he battled Ryan Smyth in front.
"Anytime you can get a point on the road, especially when you re down in the third, it s got to be a small victory," Liles said.
Theodore, taking his turn in Colorado's goalie rotation with Peter Budaj, made 26 saves for the Avalanche, whose only two losses in the last eight games have come against Vancouver.
Theodore matched Luongo save for save through regulation, turning away Brad Isbister from inside the faceoff circle early and robbing Daniel Sedin on both a wrist shot and a tip from the slot in the third. He also got a couple of breaks as Markus Naslund and Daniel Sedin both missed empty nets early, and when the first goal was waved off.
"He was rock solid," Quenneville said. "He didn't get distracted at any point, he was square, he was solid, he was composed: It was a nice effort."
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Avalanche 4, Wild 2
DENVER (AP) -Paul Stastny had two goals and an assist to help the Colorado Avalanche beat a well-rested Minnesota Wild squad 4-2 on Sunday night.
Colorado ran its mark to 7-1-1 over its last nine games. The Avalanche also have the best home record in the Western Conference at 9-1.
Peter Budaj stopped 25 shots,and Ryan Smyth had a goal and an assist.
The Avalanche played the final 1:49 with a man advantage after Branko Radivojevic was called for hooking. The Wild almost scored a man down on a shot by Pierre-Marc Bouchard, but Budaj made a glove save on his slap shot.
The Wild pulled Niklas Backstrom with 29.3 seconds remaining, and Wojtek Wolski sealed the game for Colorado on an empty-net goal with a second remaining.
Backstrom, playing with a sore groin, turned away 22 shots.
The Wild were off for five days before taking the ice Sunday. They were without Stephane Veilleux, who was scratched before the game. He broke his left cheekbone when he was hit by a puck in practice Saturday.
Eric Belanger and Bouchard had power-play goals for the Wild in the second period. Minnesota now scored seven power-play goals in its last three games.
Stastny's two goals in the second period, along with his assist on Wolski's goal, gave him 100 points in 99 career games. He's just the sixth player in franchise history to reach 100 points in 100 or fewer contests.
Joe Sakic assisted on Stastny's first goal, which came on a power play. Sakic has 12 assists in his last 12 games. However, Sakic only has one goal in that time frame.
The Avalanche won't play again until Friday night in Dallas.
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Laperriere hurt, out 2 to 4 weeks
Ian Laperriere, the popular veteran right wing with the Avalanche, will be out of the lineup for the next two to four weeks.
Laperriere suffered a sprained right knee in the first period of Sunday's game with the Minnesota Wild. Laperriere got tangled up in a scrum around the Avs' net after a faceoff and went down.
"Lappy's been playing extremely well, so it's a tough loss," Avs coach Joel Quenneville said.
His absence should create more playing time for Scott Parker, who was a healthy scratch against the Wild.
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Avalanche Recalls Richardson
The Colorado Avalanche Hockey Club announced today that it has recalled forward Brad Richardson from the Lake Erie Monsters, the team's American Hockey League affiliate. He will join the club in Dallas for tonight's game against the Stars (6:30 p.m. MST).
Richardson was assigned to Lake Erie after being cleared to play on November 7 and has tallied an assist in three games played there. Prior to his AHL assignment, he had been sidelined with a wrist injury that he sustained during off-season workouts just prior to training camp.
The Belleville, Ontario native posted career-highs in games played (73), goals (14) and points (22) last season with the Avalanche. Richardson notched three shorthanded goals and three game-winning goals during the 2006-2007 season.
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Avalanche-Stars Nov 16, 2007, 8:30 PM EST
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The Dallas Stars are usually one of the best home teams in the NHL. That hasn't been nearly the case this season.
The Stars look to avoid their first five-game home losing streak in nearly 29 years Friday night when they face the Colorado Avalanche, who have struggled on the road so far.
The Stars franchise has not lost five in a row at home since Nov. 15-29, 1978, when the team was the Minnesota North Stars, and Dallas is two home losses shy of the franchise record set from Jan. 17-Feb. 4, 1970. Since moving to Texas for the 1993-94 season, the Stars are 304-140-16 with 65 ties at home, giving them the third-most such wins in the NHL during that span.
Dallas (7-7-4) hasn't added to that total since a 3-1 victory over Anaheim on Oct. 20, though. The Stars opened the season 3-0-1 at the American Airlines Center before dropping the next four games there, including a 4-3 shootout loss to San Jose on Wednesday.
The defeat was the third in a row overall (0-1-2) and sixth in eight games for the Stars, who were playing for the first time since general manager Doug Armstrong was fired Tuesday and replaced with former Star Brett Hull and assistant GM Les Jackson as co-interim general managers.
Owner Tom Hicks also moved team president Jim Lites into a full-time role in his sports marketing firm Wednesday, and gave Lites' old job to Jeff Cogen, who held the same position for Hicks' baseball team, the Texas Rangers.
"We had some good chances to win this one," Stars coach Dave Tippett said of Wednesday's loss. "When changes happen like they did, you wonder how people are going to respond, but our goal was to push forward and worry about the things on the ice."
Dallas has been outscored 18-9 during the home slide.
The Stars need a better effort from Marty Turco as they try to get things turned around. Turco, who committed a puck-handling error against the Sharks that led to the opening goal by Torrey Mitchell, has a 4.48 goals-against average in the last three games.
Turco struggled in a season-opening 4-3 loss to Colorado on Oct. 3, allowing four goals on 23 shots.
On the offensive end, Stars captain Brendan Morrow has three goals and two assists in the last three games, giving him 18 points to tie Mike Ribeiro for the team lead. Morrow was held without a point in the last meeting with the Avalanche, but has four goals in his last three home matchups with them.
Dallas has won three in a row against Colorado at the American Airlines Center, scoring 17 goals in those games.
The first-place Avs (11-5-1), who are 2-4-1 on the road, have been off since Sunday's 4-2 home win over Minnesota. Paul Stastny continued his outstanding early season play with two goals and an assist, giving him team bests of nine goals and 22 points. His 13 assists are tied for the club lead.
"He makes plays," said Avalanche left wing Ryan Smyth, who had a goal and an assist. "The puck doesn't die with him. Collectively, we're playing well together."
Stastny's performance ended a two-game point drought. The 21-year-old center started the season in impressive fashion against Dallas, recording his first career hat trick in the Avs' 4-3 victory.
The Avs have won three of their last four.
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Avalanche-Wild Nov 18, 2007, 6:00 PM EST
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The Minnesota Wild and Colorado Avalanche are both coming off their worst losses of the season, but it appears the Wild's defeat was more costly.
Minnesota hopes to move on from a disappointing road trip and an injury to one of its best players when it opens a three-game homestand against the Avalanche on Sunday.
The Wild (10-7-2) fell to Vancouver 6-2 on Friday, losing for the third time in four games on a road trip against the other Northwest Division teams. They are in second place in the Northwest, one point back of division-leading Colorado.
Since starting the season 7-0-1, Minnesota has lost eight of 11, and things got even worse in Friday's defeat.
Center Mikko Koivu, second on the Wild with 16 points, was violently slashed in the back of the left leg with 3:54 left in the game and had to be helped off the ice.
"He could have broken his leg," Minnesota coach Jacques Lemaire said.
The seriousness of the injury was not announced, but the loss of Koivu would be a big blow for the Wild, who are already without left wing Pavol Demitra because of a groin injury.
On Friday, goaltender Josh Harding allowed three goals on 11 shots in just under 12 minutes before being replaced by Niklas Backstrom, who had been pulled after two periods in Thursday's 4-2 win at Edmonton.
Backstrom yielded three goals on 20 shots Friday, and should be excited about returning home. Backstrom has won all six of his starts at the Xcel Energy Center, posting a 1.17 goals-against average and two shutouts. He is 1-1-0 with a 2.51 GAA versus the Avalanche this season, and is 4-1-1 with a 2.28 GAA against them in his career.
The Wild have won their last two home games by a combined 9-3 score, and are 6-2-0 at the Xcel Energy Center this season.
Minnesota beat the Avalanche 3-2 at home on Oct. 21, but has lost the last two meetings - both on the road. Colorado beat the Wild 4-2 last Sunday behind two goals from Paul Stastny and 25 saves from Peter Budaj.
Avalanche left wing Wojtek Wolski had a goal and an assist last Sunday, and has five points in his last four games against Minnesota.
Colorado (11-6-1) opened a four-game road trip with a 6-1 loss to Dallas on Friday.
The Avalanche, who entered Friday's game on a 7-1-1 run, had a season-low 18 shots and allowed a season high in goals.
"We've got to play better and smarter and harder," said Avs left wing Ryan Smyth, who has two goals and two assists in his last two games against the Wild.
Jose Theodore was pulled in the second period after giving up five goals on 10 shots. He was 3-0-1 with a 1.96 GAA in his previous four starts.
Budaj replaced Theodore and stopped 10 of 11 shots. Budaj is 4-1-0 with a 2.35 GAA in his last five games, and has been in net for all three games against Minnesota, going 2-1-0 with a 2.01 GAA.
Colorado has not lost consecutive games since Oct. 19 and 21.
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In midafternoon, a homeless man toting all his belongings stands in the shade of a tree near the Rio Grande Hotel, a short distance from the homeless shelter in downtown Salt Lake City, and smokes an illegal substance.
"There will always be drugs at the shelter," he says. "When a man gets his hands on 10 or 20 bucks, he's going to spend his money having fun because he's lost hope."
He won't give his name, but his acquaintances call him Randy. He looks to be about 30 and says his life on the street without a job or much of a future is difficult.
"If I had a roof over my head," he adds, "I wouldn't have these problems."
Professionals who deal with homelessness on a regular basis confirm what Randy says. They caution that not everyone in the homeless population uses street drugs. However, many homeless people suffer from depression, anxiety and other forms of mental illness, as well as physical maladies ranging from tooth decay to bad feet. Illegal street drugs can seem the most convenient way to kill the pain or "self-medicate."
And the flow of illegal drugs through the homeless population from Pioneer Park to 500 West appears to be plentiful. Drug arrests in the area jumped 44.5 percent from 2011 to 2012, according to police department statistics. They account for 22.7 percent of all drug arrests in Salt Lake City.
"It's an open market," says a 55-year-old homeless man, who identified himself as M.S.
"People are exchanging drugs and money out in the open," he says from his perch on a curb along 500 West at about 300 South.
Smoking dope • Many along the street on a sunny September afternoon were using drugs in the open, too, M.S. observed. They were smoking crack cocaine, methamphetamine, marijuana and spice a synthetic form of the chemical in marijuana that creates euphoria.
A Utah State University graduate, M.S. says he lost his job and his marriage to alcohol abuse. But he hopes to land a restaurant job and then get back with his estranged spouse.
"A lot of these people are homeless because of drug use," he says. "They start as kids, getting pills from their parents, and then they leave home and after awhile, they become addicts."
That's among the scenarios homeless advocates see, says Joel Hunt, a physician assistant at the Fourth Street Clinic who does outreach to people on the street.
The homeless population is an ever-changing assortment of people. One segment is made up of folks who fall off the bottom rung of the economic ladder, but eventually climb back to permanent housing and a job. Another segment comprises the chronic homeless who sometimes remain that way for years, according to welfare providers. Many in both groups use illicit substances.
"If you're homeless for any length of time, even if you were mentally fit, depression and anxiety set in," Hunt says. "These folks have pain from a variety of issues, whether it's physical problems ... or voices in their heads. ... They are looking for hope and they will go where they can to get it."
True addicts will do anything to get a fix, he says, including stealing, forging, panhandling or trading sex for drugs.
A 34-year-old woman in a short skirt walking along State Street near 1300 South is living proof of that. She is, by her own admission, a heroin addict who makes money to pay for her addiction through prostitution.
The woman, who refuses to give a name, says she is originally from West Valley City and began using drugs in high school. She became addicted to heroin in her early 20s. She needs to make $50 a day for a room at a small motel, and another $50 for her drug habit. Food and cigarettes are on top of that.
She's been homeless for nine years and plies her trade seven days a week, 365 days a year. It's a hard life and she's uncertain of her future. But, for now, she is unwilling to go into treatment again.
"It hurts too bad to go cold turkey," she says. "And I'm too big of a chickens-."
Out of reach? • There are other programs that provide pharmaceutical treatments. But many of them are underfunded, according to providers, and often too expensive for addicts trying to get clean.
Addiction is a treatable disease, says Jennifer Hyvonen, external affairs director at the Fourth Street Clinic. But treatment requires resources that are in short supply.
"The services are limited and there is a long wait list," she says. "But there are a lot of things we can do to treat substance abuse."
Salt Lake City police Sgt. Michelle Ross seeks to bring programs that are available to the homeless each week. Various providers gather at Pioneer Park or 500 West near 300 South, while Ross attempts to shepherd people to them. Mayor Ralph Becker recently announced that the city would reboot its efforts to offer programs to the homeless.
But it can be a hard sell. Many in the chronic homeless population are distrustful, particularly of police.
Law enforcement will not tolerate criminal activity, Deputy Police Chief Mike Brown says in an interview.
"Dealers target the homeless, specifically," he says. "And the dealers use them as cover" to hold or deal the drugs.
Even though police make hundreds of arrests each year around the shelter, "you can't arrest your way out of this problem," Brown says.
The solution "is to get these people the help they need so they can get off the street."
Nonetheless there seems to be an unending stream of homeless, particularly in a sluggish economy. And as funding shrinks for programs to aid the homeless, their population grows. And with it, the flow of illegal drugs.
"At the end of the day, people are doing something to make the pain go away," Hunt says. "It's a coping mechanism for what they are facing."
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Monday, September 30, 2002
Vendor pricing practices stuck in 2000
Tom Smith, writing for InternetWeek, has a nice rant on enterprise system vendor pricing pratices. Here's a sample: "Vendors like to say the economy is the root of their problems, practically the root of all evil. What an easy, self-serving excuse. They should drop the self-pity and focus on what can help their business: software quality, customer care, realistic ROI promises and-most important-simpler, better, and more transparent pricing."
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All criticism aside, I generally appreciate Forrester's research
I especially like their quarterly survey of e-procurement adoption, which they do in conjunction with the Institute for Supply Management (ISM). The latest one is from July, and there's a summary on the ISM Web site.by Frank Scavo, 9/26/2002 06:05:00 PM | permalink | e-mail this!
Memo to Forrester
Last month, Forrester Research published a research brief, entitled "Memo to VCs: Invest Apps Dollars Here." I didn't want to spend the $295 for the report, so I took a look at iSource's summary of it. Forrester sees an increase in technology spending in the second half of 2002. So far, so good. But I'm puzzled when the authors list five "solutions to specific business pains," where they see increased demand for IT spending. Here are three of them that I question, specifically.
- "First, the analysts highlight event-driven adaptive software that can help alert companies to problems in their supply chains, like machinery failure at a supplier or a change order from a customer. Solution providers such as Exemplary and Factory Logic offer solutions that tie ongoing 'execution events' back into supply chain plans, allowing companies to modify their operations in real time as events unfold."
Memo to Forrester: most of the companies I know are still trying to implement the supply chain management software they already have. Heck, a few of them would even consider it a breakthrough if they could get MRP implemented!
- "...Forrester's analysts suggest that companies will look to augment their enterprise resource planning systems with 'organic applications,' Web services libraries combined with intelligent agent technologies..."
Memo to Forrester: I evaluate enterprise systems for a living and I have no clue what you are talking about. And, I would wager that 99% of CIO's don't, either. Really now, which companies are asking for this?
- "...in light of the Enron and WorldCom debacles, companies will look to applications that use smart data-mining and exception-based alert technologies to detect possible financial irregularities. Providers like PaceMetrics and Searchspace are offering solutions that can model strategic decision risk or detect aberrations that could indicate fraud...."
Memo to Forrester: "smart data-mining" wouldn't have done anything to uncover the problems at Enron and Worldcom. The problem was with the top guys, the guys that are going to be looking at all those "exception-based alerts" you are advocating. Sadly, there's no technology that will make a CFO or CEO honest.
Unfortunately for enterprise system vendors, most companies are still trying to digest the software investments they made over the past 5-7 years. Yes, many companies will probably increase spending on information technology over the next 6-12 months, but it will not be in the areas that Forrester suggests. It will be largely in the areas of application integration, implementation, upgrades, and incremental enhancements that deliver additional value from the systems that they already have.by Frank Scavo, 9/26/2002 06:00:00 PM | permalink | e-mail this!
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Sunday, September 22, 2002
J.D. Edwards now firmly in IBM's camp
If it already wasn't clear, JDEdwards is now firmly aligned with IBM with its announcement that it will standardize all of its offerings on IBM middleware and infrastructure technology. According to the press release, "J.D. Edwards 5 applications will be pre-integrated with IBM's WebSphere Application Server and Portal with embedded security, Lotus collaboration tools, and DB2 Universal Database (DB2 UDB)." The technical integration should be complete by the end of 2002, with client roll-out starting in 2003.
It is tempting to say that JD Edwards is just going further down the path it is already walking. After all, the overwhelming majority of JDE's installed base is already using IBM AS/400 (iSeries) servers (although that's because many of them have still not upgraded from the older host-based version of JDE, known as "World Software"). Furthermore, a few months ago, JDE already designated IBM DB2 as its preferred database platform. But this announcement goes a lot farther. JDE is actually bundling IBM products into its own offerings. You buy JDE, and you're getting DB2, Websphere, and Lotus. Sure, JDE says you can still run Oracle or MS SQL Server for the database, but how many prospects are going to want to pay twice for database infrastructure? Sure, JDE says that you can still use webMethods for application integration, by why bother when IBM's Websphere is already in the bundle? You can even use MS Exchange for messaging, but why not take advantage of the Lotus tools included in JDE's offerings?
A casual observer might think that JDE is at risk in the mid-market by losing out on deals where prospects want to build on Microsoft technology. But that's really not the case. Microsoft itself is moving aggressively into the enterprise systems space, with its acquisition of Great Plains and Navision. JDE probably felt that conflict with Microsoft is unavoidable. In the mid-market today, I already see Great Plains and JDE competing in the same deals. It can only get worse for JDE, especially as Navision's Axapta product--with manufacturing functionality stronger than Great Plains--starts to get traction in the U.S. If a prospect wants Microsoft technology in its enterprise systems, its going to be tough to not consider buying straight from Microsoft. So, all things considered, there's something to be said for JDE staking out a clear, unambiguous position. JDE is now true-blue, Big Blue. It has nothing to lose and everything to gain by letting IBM give it a bear hug.by Frank Scavo, 9/22/2002 03:40:00 PM | permalink | e-mail this!
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JDE on Linux—you heard it here first
The only thing missing from JDE's latest announcement is a clear statement of direction regarding Linux. Back in June, JDE did announce that it would offer its CRM product on Linux. But to my knowledge it has made no such announcement regarding the rest of its products. Offering its entire suite on Linux would be a next logical move for JDE, further aligning its strategic direction with that of IBM. Since in JDE's traditional market, use of Linux is still somewhat limited to niche services (Web servers, file/print, messaging, etc.), such a general statement from JDE might still be premature. But I think it's coming, at some point.by Frank Scavo, 9/22/2002 03:35:00 PM | permalink | e-mail this!
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Wednesday, September 18, 2002
Killer app for Web services?
InternetWeek has an article on Nobilis Software, a 40 person software start up that is offering what just may be the first "killer app" for Web services. The company has just launched a tool that allows power users to create simple enterprise-wide web services applications that use nothing more than the Microsoft Office applications that most users already have on their desktop.
In the real world, many internal business processes such as budgeting, forecasting, and expense reporting are performed by users creating Excel worksheets and emailing them back and forth to each other and eventually rolling them up into a master worksheet. These are the sort of informal, cumbersome processes that consultants try to automate with ERP systems.
However, the Nobilis tools essentially allow such informal processes to be formalized and integrated by means of Web services. Users keep on working with Excel worksheets (or whatever other MS Office document is needed), but Web services are used to define the business rules and to handle the workflow and data integration. It's an idea that resonates with a number of principles: it is simple, it is cost effective ($99 per user desktop), it uses technology that businesses already have, and it doesn't ask users to change the way they are already doing things. If Nobilis's idea catches on, we might see a significant jump in the adoption of Web services.
As a side note, don't think that Nobilis's innovation is a potential breakthrough for Microsoft's .NET framework--Nobilis has built its Web services platform using J2EE. A CRN article has the details.by Frank Scavo, 9/18/2002 10:33:00 AM | permalink | e-mail this!
Tuesday, September 17, 2002
What exactly is AS2?
A couple of weeks ago, Walmart announced that it will mandate that its entire supplier base move from traditional EDI over value-added networks (VAN) to Internet-based EDI using a standard known as AS2. After I wrote a short post on the implications for B2B adoption, the Spectator began to get a significant number of search engine hits on the keywords "Walmart" and "AS2," indicating that a lot of people would like to know more.
So, what is AS2? AS2 is short-hand for EDIINT AS2 (Electronic Data Interchange-Internet Integration Applicability Statement 2). The AS2 standard, developed from work by the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF), provides a reliable and secure Internet messaging protocol, using public key encryption (PKI). Although AS2 can be applied to any Internet messaging format, Wal-mart is using it at this point for electronic data interchange (EDI). Wal-Mart is currently testing AS2-based EDI with several of its primary suppliers, but it is moving rapidly to spread the standard to the rest of its suppliers. The impact of this directive is enormous, with more than 14,000 Wal-mart suppliers transacting over $200 billion in sales this year. Many of them are no doubt scrambling to learn about AS2 and to decide how to comply with Walmart's heavy stick.
Fortunately, there are several vendors offering AS2 solutions. First, iSoft's Commerce Suite Software uses the AS2 standard to provide trading partner management, public key infrastructure (PKI), and an infrastructure for IP-based secure communications. This allows data transmitted to be digitally signed, secure and non-repudiated. Walmart itself is using iSoft's products in building out its AS2 infrastructure and it is also promoting iSoft as its vendor of choice. For Wal-mart suppliers, iSoft is offering a canned solution with no license fee, starting at $300 per year for support. I would expect to see many Wal-mart suppliers simply take this offer as an easy choice. However, because AS2 is a public standard, other vendor solutions should work equally well. Suppliers can continue to use their current EDI vendor, if it supports AS2—or another vendor such as IPNet or Cyclone Commerce, which also provide AS2 solutions for Wal-Mart suppliers.
Even though these solutions appear to be cost effective, some smaller suppliers may be reluctant to implement AS2 if Walmart so far is their only customer accepting it. In this case, smaller suppliers may want to check whether their current VAN provides an AS2 gateway to connect to Walmart. With Wal-mart's clout, I would not be surprised to see most of the VANs eager to provide this capability, rather than lose traffic.
By the way, I expect other major retailers such as Kmart, JCPenney, and Sears to follow Wal-mart's example. When compared to the cost of traditional VAN-based EDI, the cost savings of Internet-based EDI are simply too attractive.by Frank Scavo, 9/17/2002 09:58:00 AM | permalink | e-mail this!
Monday, September 16, 2002
IBM acquires Holosofx to enhance its integration offerings
IBM has announced acquisition of Holosofx, a business process modeling products firm, which it will use to enhance the business process management capabilities of its Websphere product.
I've used Holosofx products in the past. The products--BPM Workbench, BPM Server, and BPM Monitor--go beyond simple process mapping to full-blown process modeling and simulation. Earlier this year, IBM acquired Crossworlds, one of the first Enterprise Application Integration (EAI) vendors. By combining Crossworlds and Holosofx with Websphere and its MQSeries messaging platform, IBM is creating an extended platform for enterprise integration.
The direction is timely. Over the past year, companies have been shrinking back from fork-lift replacements of legacy systems, in favor of a more piece-meal approach. Because of this, the need for integration has never been greater. As the Holosofx press release points out, companies already spend about 40% of their IT budgets on integration. EAI solutions, such as Websphere/Crossworlds/Holosofx provide an integration infrastructure, sitting as a layer above individual application systems, to provide both the integration as well as business process management functionality that cuts across multiple applications and organizational units.
Holosofx was founded in 1990, with headquarters in southern California and a development lab in Cairo, Egypt. Holosofx was used by RosettaNet in developing specifications for their Partner Interface Processes (PIP), so it already has strong ties to the high tech and IT industries. In addition, it is currently in use at big name clients such as Morgan Stanley Dean Witter, AETNA, SBC, First Union, Toyota, and Telstra. Beyond, IBM its partnerships include Rational and Filenet.
More information can be found at Holosofx's web site.by Frank Scavo, 9/16/2002 11:29:00 AM | permalink | e-mail this!
Thursday, September 12, 2002
2002 ROI leaders and laggards
A new study by Nucleus Research, a vendor-neutral research firm, indicates which IT initiatives have the highest and lowest ROI, based on thousands of ROI studies that the firm has done worldwide. The study found that the highest ROI is currently coming from the following:
In contrast, the study found that the lowest return came from three types of initiatives:
- E-business integration platforms, using EAI solutions such as BEA Weblogic and Microsoft Biztalk. Other EAI vendors include NEON, SeeBeyond, TIBCO, Vitria, webMethods (Active Software), Peregrine (Extricity), Iona (Netfish), and IBM (Crossworlds). Although the study did not clearly indicate, I would expect both internal application integration as well as external integration with trading partners to be high ROI opportunities, as indicated by the high degree of interest in this subject among CIOs in the trenches. (See my post on August 22).
- E-learning solutions, due to "reduced costs for travel, human resources overhead, regulatory compliance and customer support costs," along with second tier benefits, such as increased employee performance that directly impacts profitability. The study found that most companies could gain significant returns from even modest investments in e-learning technology. I wrote about this point in terms of web-conferencing and listed some vendor solutions back in June.
Additional details on the study can be found in the firm's press release.
- E-commerce and B2B marketplaces. The study found that companies are currently off better by investing in specific integration strategies with key partners.
- Monolithic CRM. The study found that companies investing in large CRM projects are unlikely to achieve a positive ROI, because consulting and software costs often outweigh returns and a long deployment process slows payback. Most companies are better off investing in smaller CRM initiatives and expanding them as warranted.
- Standalone content management. The study found that the high cost of content management solutions are not warranted for most companies. Those companies that do acheive positive ROI on content management projects are doing so as part of a broader strategy with tight integration.by Frank Scavo, 9/12/2002 10:20:00 PM | permalink | e-mail this!
Wednesday, September 11, 2002
The dark side of reverse auctions. Reverse auctions, where the buyer posts a requirement and sellers compete for the business, are becoming more popular for two reasons: Internet technology allows reverse auctions to be conducted without regard to geographic location of the participants, and software or services are now widely available to facilitate reverse auctions. Leading software solutions include Moai, Emptoris, eBreviate, Ariba, Commerce One, and Procuri. Examples of online marketplaces that support reverse auctions include Covisint, Elemica, Forest Express, Quadrem, World Wide Retail Exchange (WWRE), E2Open, and Transora.
Nevertheless, there is a dark side to reverse auctions. The main objection is that reverse auctions focus on a single dimension of the trading relationship: price. Unless the buyer takes specific actions to account for differences in supplier quality, lead times, flexibility, or service, suppliers are forced to sacrifice everything for the sake of lowest price. This seems like a step backward in an enlightened supplier relationship, and it reinforces the worst tendencies in some industries that have traditionally fostered adversarial relationships between trading partners. The second objection is that in many reverse auctions, suppliers can see each other's bids but not their identities. This makes it possible for an unscrupulous buyer to game the system by inviting unqualified suppliers into the auction, thus driving prices unreasonably lower.
Although in some supply chains, reverse auctions can be a wake-up call to a complacent supplier base, the negative effects on supplier relationships should not be ignored. Therefore, buyers should limit the use of reverse auctions to purchase of commodity products, where there is less emphasis on the relationship and more on minimizing cost of the transaction. In cases where buyers really want to use reverse auctions in the context of strategic supplier relationships, it is essential that they take explicit steps to address dimensions other than price. HBS Working Knowledge has a good article on the subject.by Frank Scavo, 9/11/2002 09:31:00 AM | permalink | e-mail this!
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Tuesday, September 10, 2002
Analyzing the analysts. Here's a new twist. A group called ResearchRate is conducting a customer satisfaction survey of IT analyst firms, such as Gartner, Aberdeen, Cahners, Giga, Meta Group, and Ovum. Of course, the analyst firms are usually the ones who are conducting surveys on others. Although it's nice to see the analysts on the receiving end, I have my doubts about the reliability of the survey. The survey instrument is accessible publicly on the Web, allowing anyone and every one to fill it out. What's to prevent an analyst firm from lining up its friends, relatives, and neighbors to stuff the ballot box? As far as I can tell, one person could even fill it out multiple times, using different email addresses. Nevertheless, if you use analyst research and you have about 15 minutes, you might want to participate in the survey. There's even a drawing for five $100 cash prizes.by Frank Scavo, 9/10/2002 10:40:00 AM | permalink | e-mail this!
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Saturday, September 07, 2002
Is this for real? Oracle moving to simplify and clarify its pricing schemes. Those of us who evaluate software vendors for a living know that one of the most difficult questions to get answered from a vendor is, what will it cost? The problem is that major software contracts usually bundle or unbundle a number of elements, such as the software license itself, maintenance, implementation consulting, training, and outsourcing services, each with its own price basis and formula. Add in various terms and conditions as well as deadline-specific discounts or promotions, and it can be extremely difficult to compare one vendor with another. It often takes a detailed analysis to "normalize" proposals from two vendors so that an apples-to-apples comparison can be performed.
Now, in what we hope will start a trend among vendors, Oracle has published a complete guide to its software pricing and licensing schemes. Although most or all of the information was already available in one form or another, the 55 page Software Investment Guide pulls it all together and makes it available on the Web. Furthermore, the Guide is under the management of a new Global Pricing and Licensing Group within Oracle that is chartered to establish "uniform corporate policies for Oracle's customers and partners, with overall objectives of implementing Oracle's pricing and licensing strategies worldwide." If this is for real, it would indicate that Oracle's pricing schemes may be rationalized and simplified in the future. Of course, the whole effort means little in situations where the sale includes deal-specific discounts, terms, or conditions. But Oracle is moving in the right direction, toward rationalizing, simplifying, and make transparent its pricing structures. We hope that other vendors follow.by Frank Scavo, 9/07/2002 11:01:00 AM | permalink | e-mail this!
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Do The Math: Mr. McKibben Goes To Washington
In the weeks after the election, Washington insiders are trying to interpret the complicated national politics of climate and environmental issues.
Would Congressional Republicans support a carbon tax as part of a deficit reduction deal? Is the Obama Administration distancing itself from pricing carbon, hoping to let conservatives lead on the issue? What kind of trade-offs would environmental groups accept in exchange for a climate deal?
The White House plan to "lead from behind" became clear last week when press secretary Jay Carney said: "We would never propose a carbon tax and have no intention of proposing one."
So while the President once again fails to lead on the central issue of our time, what is the climate movement to do?
Enter environmental movement-builder Bill McKibben of 350.org, who rolled into town yesterday afternoon with a very simple message: Don't listen to Washington.
Joined by other leaders of the climate activism movement, McKibben was at the Warner Theater yesterday — just blocks from the White House — discussing his new "Do The Math" campaign, which lays out the case for divesting from fossil fuel companies. It's a no-nonsense, make-no-apologies approach to limiting carbon emissions by attempting to weaken the finances of companies responsible for climate change.
When the lights dimmed and McKibben walked on stage to a theater full of roughly 1,800 cheering supporters, the large screen above his head prominently displayed a new mantra within the climate activism movement.
"We're going after the fossil fuel companies."
Simple. Aggressive. And a campaign waged almost completely outside the paralysis of national politics.
Do The Math is based on a very simple premise. In order to have a serious chance (better than 3 in 4) of limiting global temperature rise to 2 degrees Celsius — a threshold needed to prevent catastrophic climate change — the world can only emit about 565 gigatons of carbon dioxide by 2050. We will burn through that carbon in 16 years at our current rate. Fossil fuel companies have reported their intent to burn reserves of carbon five times that amount. So preventing uncontrollable global warming means keeping roughly 80 percent of proven carbon reserves in the ground.
The International Energy Agency backed up those calculations in a report last week that concluded two thirds of carbon reserves need to stay in the ground by 2050 in order to avoid catastrophic climate change.
Rather than wait on a weak signal from Washington that would likely result in very modest carbon reductions, activists are attempting to create a carbon price of their own by exposing the financial unhealthiness of fossil fuel companies.
Do The Math is modeled after a divestment campaign in the 1980′s that put pressure on American colleges and universities to pull money out of South Africa — a strategy credited with helping put an end to the country's apartheid system. Environmental groups want to characterize fossil fuel companies in the same way.
"It is high time for us to play offense. These companies have lost their social license," said McKibben to the crowd. "This is a rogue industry."
Vilifying and boycotting fossil fuel companies is not exactly a new strategy. But this campaign is unique. It's the first time that any environmental organization has attempted a divestment strategy of this scale. And the targets outlined by McKibben — the actual math in "Do The Math" — creates a very clear case for campaigners when putting pressure on institutions to wind down their investments.
"I don't think that anyone has done something on this level in the environmental movement before," said NASA climatologist James Hansen to Climate Progress. Hansen, who was one of the first scientists to publicly warn Americans about the threat of climate change in the late 80′s, has become one of the most outspoken scientific advocates of pricing carbon.
"I think it could be a really effective campaign. It puts people on the spot and is a way to hold organizations accountable for their investments in fossil fuels," Hansen said after the event.
It also marks a significant shift for the environmental movement, which has been largely focused on trying to spur change from inside Washington under the Obama Administration. While there have been a number of incremental victories on new clean air regulations, fuel mileage standards, and renewable energy development, groups pushing for greater urgency on climate change have been frustrated by the cool reception from the White House and outright hostility from Congress.
But McKibben, who does his thinking outside the Beltway from his home base in Vermont, is clearly not deterred. He brings the kind of audacity and naivete to national politics that many insiders lack.
"My rule on thinking about Washington is that I have no idea what they're actually doing, so I just do the things I think I should do and see how it goes. If we'd bothered to ask about the chances on Keystone XL, I'm sure everyone would have told us not to bother," McKibben told Climate Progress yesterday evening as around 3,000 activists demonstrated against the tar sands pipeline outside the White House after his presentation.
Indeed, in the spring of 2011, almost everyone in Washington considered the Keystone XL pipeline a done deal. But after a wave of protests elevated environmental concerns about the pipeline, the northern portion of the project was delayed by President Obama. Now these groups are stepping up another round of protests in order to force Obama to kill the pipeline once and for all. Large Washington-centric environmental groups, including the Sierra Club, are also making Keystone XL one of their biggest immediate climate priorities.
"The equation is changing a bit. It's no longer just the ragtag operation at 350.org. The biggest environmental groups of the country are now quite clearly stating that this is the line in the sand," McKibben told Climate Progress.
Now he's hoping to rally both local activists and large environmental groups behind the divestment strategy — eventually forcing a change in Washington in the same way that the Keystone fight did.
Toward the end of his Do The Math presentation, as attendees prepared to funnel into the streets toward the White House, McKibben made a final plea to the crowd in his characteristically soft-spoken, take-no-prisoners style.
"Remember this moment. This is when we got serious," he said.
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Mister Rogers Neighborhood
"I wish Alicia Keys was my neighbor"
~ Mr. Rogers on Assholes
"I am Gunnery Sgt. Rogers your host in this neighborhood. Fro now on, you little maggots will refer to me as sir!"
~ Mr. Rogers on welcoming those to his neighborhod bootcamp.
Mr. Rodgers Neighborhood is a TV show about an unmarried elderly pedophile with no career, who goes around the neighborhood looking for a job, or a woman to marry, but never wins. He is so depressed that he often talks to an imaginary child. One of his neighbors is Mr. McFeely, who works at the porno video shop, and often stops by at Mr. Rogers house to watch a porno video with him.
Half way through every episode, he brings out a toy trolley, that goes through a tunnel in the wall. Mr. Rogers is convinced that there is a fairytale land behind the wall, and he makes up weird ass stories about people that don't fucking exist.
These stories include characters such as:
Lady Aberline: Basically she is Mr. Rogers imaginary girlfriend. Daniel Tiger: A little tiger puppet, who tries to get into Lady Aberline's boobs, but never does. Grampare Tiger: It's fucking Daniel with a mustache and a hat! Do they honestly think they can fool me passing him off as another character! Corny S. Pecially: A little chipmunk who makes Weapons of Mass Destruction, who Mr. Rogers is convinced bombed the twin towers 9-11-2001. Lady Elane: An ugly bitch who always does shit to people, such as magically turning their houses upside down. Mr. Rogers is also convinced that she helped Corny bomb the twin towers. Henrietta Pussycat: Whenever somebody is talking to her, she always yells "SHUT THE MEOW UP!!!" Bob Dog: A sociopathic lunatic who beleives he's a dog. Purple Panda: Barney the Dinosaur's retarded cousin from outer space.


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Cradlepoint MBR1000 Mobile Broadband Router Review
|Tuesday, 05 February 2008
Cradlepoint MBR1000 EVDO / HSDPA 3G/4G Router Review
HOT TIP: Interested in bridging WiFi between remote buildings? or using "Campground" WiFi as internet source for yo cradlepoint? or maybe you want to use available WiFi as failover for your home/office? check out our Pepwave Surf Review.
UPDATE: MBR1000 Firmware 1.6.9 supports Sprint U301 and more. Click for more info.
General Information/Features
Unlike the CTR350 and PHS300, the sleek, shiny and very black MBR1000 targets the more 'stationary' crowd rather that those folks who are always moving around. The MBR1000 is a larger unit at 7"x 4.8"x 1.2" and its size allows for more hardware features than its predecessors.
The Tower of Power -- photo shows all three current Cradlepoint EVDO Routers:
Top left is the PHS300 and top right is CTR350. (WiFi antennas are MBR1000's)
Key features of the the MBR1000 include two USB ports, one ExpressCard/34 slot, five ethernet ports (one WAN, four LAN), three WiFi 'MiMo' antennas, and ten LEDs that provide feedback on things like whether or not you have an active EVDO or WAN connection, or how many ethernet LAN ports are in use. The router ships with a 110v A/C to 12v D/C power adapter, and the router's case features recessed screw-mount holes underneath the unit to make it easier to wall-mount the router.
Photo above shows the WPS/SGNL buttons on top, and 10 LEDs on front of MBR1000
Photo above shows the 12v DC jack, recessed reset button, 1 of 2 USB ports,
single WAN ethernet input port, 4 LAN ethernet output ports, and wifi on/off switch
The MBR1000 also comes with interesting hardware features that have never been seen on any 3G/EVDO router before:
Here's a flash animation showing all sides of the MBR1000. Click nav arrows to move it around:
Device Support
Target Audience
We anticipate that many will be torn between choosing which of the three great Cradlepoint routers they should choose from... We feel your pain!
The way we see it, the two truly portable routers have one big difference: the CTR350 has an ethernet port and no battery while the PHS300 has a rechargeable battery, but no ethernet. So if you MUST have an ethernet port and want portability, then your best option is CTR350. If you do not need ethernet, then the PHS300's battery makes it the better choice.
What about the MBR1000 as a 'portable' choice? Well, before the CTR350/PHS300 came out, lots of people bought MBR1000-sized routers and kept them in road kits. The MBR1000 is not so large/heavy that its that big a deal to pack for travel, and it will be a better router choice for business events like expo/convention booths.
What Does It Do?
Automatic-Failover is a great feature for small businesses who use wireline DSL for primary connectivity, but want to use EVDO as emergency backup. This router is also great for new businesses just getting set up who need to wait weeks or months for DSL to be installed -- use the MBR1000 with EVDO at first, and then DSL when it finally becomes available. Company staff can then use the EVDO device on the road until its needed for emergencies back at the office.
For 'maximum connectivity', you could get crazy and attach one Sprint ExpressCard, one Verizon USB modem, and one AT&T HSPA Modem (when supported), as well as a cable/DSL connection, and then set up your failover priority to whatever order you want. With that setup, its hard to imagine you would EVER be without some kind of internet connection. Don't laugh! We know at least one of our customers is going to do this, and suspect that Emergency/First Responders would see this is a MAJOR feature!
Screenshot shows WAN input and three different EVDO devices
Fully Loaded! Photo shows three EVDO devices and simultaneous WAN input.
The devices are V740 ExpressCard, and CDU680 / UM150 USB modems.
Easy Setup
Unlike most other brands, Cradlepoint routers do not ship 'totally unsecured' and 'wide open' to anyone who can see its wireless station ID. Even Cradlepoint's default settings would still require someone to provide a default password through their web browser before they could surf the internet while connected to the router. This makes Cradlepoint's routers more secure than all other brands, right out of the box.
While the default configuration provides for a minimal level of access security, most owners of an MBR1000 will want to access the web admin interface, log in using the default admin password, and run the 'Set Up Wizard', which makes it relatively painless to do initial setup of security and wireless access settings.
The wizard takes admin through choices for time zone, station ID (SSID), and security options (none/login/wps/wep/wpa/wpa2). Once the choices are confirmed and the router rebooted, everything is good to go. Below is a flash animation showing the steps for Setup Wizard.
Comprehensive Configuration Options
Other MBR1000 admin features that many will find very useful are:
WiPipe Makes It Fast
We've said before that available speed test sites are not the best judge of EVDO throughput for any device or router, but they do serve as the best available guidlelines, so we use them too. Here's a recent speedtest performed with a Verizon UM150 attached to the MBR1000:
WiFi 'N' Takes It Farther
To prove it, we found a long stretch of flat land and tested the WiFi range of several EVDO routers to check how far a signal could be "seen" when no obstructions were present. The MBR1000 was clearly superior to every router we tested. In fact, we never lost the connection until our stretch of land changed elevation and we lost sight of the router ... at over 2800 feet!
Of course, the reality is that hardly anyone will use these routers in wide open places like we tested. Actual range to/from the router in a home or office will depend on the number of obstructions, construction of the building/walls, and other electronics that are in use nearby. The point of our testing was to find a 'multiplier' we can use our discussions with customers. Bottom line is that the WiFi N radio in the MBR1000 will give customers 6-10 times more useable range than previous EVDO routers that used older WiFi G technology.
Another major benefit of WiFi N is on the LAN side of things. File transfers between networked computers attached to the MBR1000 will happen MUCH faster than if they were networked on a WiFi G router. If your company routinely moves large graphics files across its local network, you want WiFi N. If your household includes DVR's that move large movie files around, you want WiFi N.
One last benefit to WiFi N is that it can allow for having a mixed bag of client radios without sacrificing speed. On older WiFi G routers, if a WiFi B client was allowed to connect, then all clients were forced to operate at WiFi B's slower speeds. With a WiFi N radio, there can be WiFi B, G or N clients attached and each could operate at closer to their maximum speed.
Superior Support
Our customer bought a Cradlepoint router expecting it do do something specific, based on our recommendation. It didn't work exactly as we hoped. Our lead support tech describes what's happening to our contacts at Cradlepoint and in THREE DAYS, Cradlepoint found a solution and provided us with a private firmware version for the customer to try. It worked, and now that fix will be in a future firmware revision.
The 'strategic partnership' we have with Cradlepoint is mutually beneficial. We have lots of customers and lots of experience with using EVDO under different circumstances. That experience allows us to simplify the process of explaining what's happening and we explain things not just to anyone, but to senior engineers at Cradlepoint who can quickly make things happen, and have an interest in doing so for the improvement of their product.
What We Like About The MBR1000
What We Don't Like About The MBR1000
What We'd Really Like To See
Why Buy From 3Gstore?
Price And Availability
Of course, if you buy a Sprint or Verizon EVDO device from 3Gstore.com, you'll save $20 off the entire package deal, and you'll get the best possible customer and tech support for your entire setup!
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