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MFP 059 Interviewee: Tanya Evans Interviewer: Marna Weston Date: May 27 2010 seconds into the interview. E: Jones County was the K lan headquarters for this part of the state. Byron De La Beckwith is now in jail, the one that shot up that building next door a nd had the boldness She was sweeping up the glass from all the windows they had shot out W: To establish an alibi or just to be bold, like E: Ju st to be bold [Laughter] And she knew who she was and she did not come down off, out of the house to see him. So, we have that man. She said he just you know? But we are St. Paul United M ethodist Church is 104 years old. It is in what used to be, at some point in our history the bla ck historical district. Where f ifty nine is, we had our first mortuary, funeral home. Brother Christian who is a member here or was his wife is still one of m y historians of the church. She keeps me posted on the history She taught history and was a big part of that M ove ment. She talked about how well guarded [Martin Luther] King was the day he came and how the corner was blocked off; t hey were watching who came in and who went out. But St. Paul is a live the history, also tell it s o the next generation will know the things that have come down. Very few of our young peopl e are aware that the church and the parsons was shot up in [19] 67, bombed in [19] 68.
MFP 059; Evans; Page 2 Of course, most people know that this is the home church of Leontyne Price, the opera singer and her family home is the green house across the street. She still when she has an opportunity to come home, she comes, and she worships here [ Laughter] [ P hone rings] This is probably abou a ll later. A young lady just did an opera, I mean a doctoral presentation on Le ontyne and Marian Anderson just a few weeks ago right in November. S he came in some here and talked to some of the members that remembered Leontyne as a little girl and the y went and took pictures of the house across the street. The much from the original building. W e still got those lofty roofs in the sanctuary. [Laughter] Very acoustics for not having a piano. But we are a hist orical church for those reasons W e are church involved in the education of our children. It seems that our education system seems to be going backwards instead of forward. We are graduat ing less children than we did fifteen, twenty years ago. We seem to not have the dri ve to tell kids to go to school; t hey spend more time at home doing nothing or cutting class and it is my desire, if I stay here as pastor, that we initiate it s back to the go back and teach our children. N ot just education for man, but also what God requires. But it is going to be a journey because we are in a generation of un churched people. We are almost in our second generation of un their twenties t hirty psalm b different generation, but what hurts me more than anything is our young people
MFP 059; Evans; Page 3 that own busi nesses in this area. Two miles down the street was the only black hospital. My member grandfather owned that lane and helped with the hospital. W: What is the name of the hospital? E: It was Brown Memorial. It was a training hospital and the only blac k hos pital in Laurel for blacks, i s right down the street. I would love to see it become a training us trying to do again because we are not graduating enough of us in general pr deal with us and people with low income Oak Park Elementary, or Oak Park High School, was the only high school that most of the as well I say, everything was in this community and we took care of each other, but we have let that go and we are letting government and other people take care of our community instead of us. W: Do you think that there has been a shift from, in the past, more of an obligation of black c ommunities to uplift and serve and educate to just kind of people standing on their own more? E: t hey want to stand on their own We actually stand on the success oo many young people that say I did it on my own and people like Dr. Charles Drew and my Minister of Music Dr. Eugene Owens, who was the blacks if we
MFP 059; Evans; Page 4 ike him and Mr. Christian, who owned the first funeral home in time. Ms. Williams I think her last name is Williams I just recently learned h ow co me nobody has written this down? We ll, P atton Jones County point, Laurel was larger than Hattiesburg It had a transit system that ran from Laurel to Ellisville, but when the C ivil R ight s B ill passed and they had to integrate the businesses and storage, Laurel almost folded completely because that nd a lot of businesses actually left. So, we are trying to re establish the history and let people know. A lot o f parts of ever and in every state there are areas that ha d that. The K lan di d have a strong hold in S outh Mississippi I used to work for Tougaloo C ollege acquir ed Medgar Ever s s home for the historical reasons, so we can continue to tell the story A nd a lot of people there were part of that, they get just upset when system fold is we took out the hands on skills. We to ok out shop, we took out home ec we took out auto mechanics and a lot of our kids even in my generation were not c ollege t have th e academic strength to go there. B ut we took their opportunities to become something. A lot business and used our own skills to make a living and it had become a lost art. e into
MFP 059; Evans; Page 5 an old Ch evy and re build it. All he got to do is read the book on what model he thing together [L aughter] W here it actually passes inspection and the whole nine e is mechanical, he has to have it in his hands. He is not analytical, where he can do it on paper. And intelligence system, we have seven different intelligence s th a t always work at the same time B ut we have teachers now that I think only job in America that you work s trictly days unless you a coach then you got the afternoons and weekends to work at night, our public education system. And I think we need to re vamp that, we need to be in education to teach to work at night, but how well are our kids going to stand and think on their own. I challenged one of my mentors to ask his mentee, t ell me how you would tell a five year old how to make a peanut butt er and jell y sandwich. I asked a tenth grader t hat the other day and he said, I tell them to get two pieces of bread, a j ar of peanut butter, and jelly. I said, b ut you still ld them how to make a sandwich. He told m e ingredients to the sandwich, y ou still ha ve not told them how to make a sandwich, and his pastor looked at me and said, y ou right W e were taught to think when someone asked a question. We were able to speak clearly and all he could answer. He co uld not sit and think about it, well, how would you tell a five year old? So,
MFP 059; Evans; Page 6 rea ch for the sky and stop letting, [Laughter] I get very upset when people do, kids make honor roll W standards have not but part of our growth is books A nd you know yourself as a doctoral student, they just started putting our history in books. I just ta lked t o a retired teacher that said she said, up until, what did she tell me? She said, I was in my fifteenth year in teaching before I was a brand new . She said, ition we took a student edition and we got to see a Te And Our teachers were smart enough to able to do t do that, because that means they got to work [L aughter] W: the cu rriculum ? E: Right, right. W: Y ou can get in trouble for teaching something that makes somebody know how you know, with these tests t hey teach to the test now.
MFP 059; Evans; Page 7 E: Benchmarks, yeah. W: meet that E: Well see, the th t utor so I used to teach algebra and history, but now when I tutor people especially those going back to school in college algebra I always relate it to something that they know. Had a young man in my home church that failed trig and I said, h ow you fail trig and you play pool every Friday? He said, w hat does t rig and pool got to do with it? I said, m eet me at the pool hall [Laughter] On second tho ught, give me a piece of paper. I drew a pool table. I said, t rig is about lin e s, sides and angles knocking it off a solid wood stripe and banking it I t always forms a triangle; I put it. A straight line is a 180 degree triangle. And he looked at me and after I drew what he see: she right, it is a triangle. I said, y ou apply trig every time you play pool on Friday, s o why you fl unking the class? [ Laughter] He said, I said, i t is that easy Turn around and he had to re take the class, but he passed because he remembered what I said and all of his papers, he had a pool table drawn on the side of it. ourney. w hat do I need to do to reach this kid? The other thing we have to do in education is standards: not the sch ools, not the district standard not the state, but your standards for your classroom B ecause I have taught kids who they thought we grade because they
MFP 059; Evans; Page 8 were, they thought they skills were down here, but they never looked beyond. i e Freedo m Writers because she never accepted what folks said about her students. She always challe nged them to come up, to come up but challenge. A lot of our kids have not been challenged to th ink outside of their community, think outside of what they see. In a staff meeti ng [laughter] a few years ago, they said, l ook at the education al areas at your table and one of you will relate all of those s ubject areas to the real world. At my table was a biology teacher, a chemistry teacher, a business education teacher, an algebra teacher, m the one with the strong voice they said, o kay, you relate [laughter] thi s to the real world. I said, w ell, if we going to relate this to the re al corners. What you see on the corner are the hired employees of the manager or the store owner. Now, the store owner has to have some chemistry background because he knows wh at his product look like, he knows what it tas tes like. He knows when you done broke it down too far. So, he has to have a background in chemistry and he has to have some mathematical skills; but above all he has to have some personal skills, so he needs to be able to talk, convince people to come and join him. And the principal said, o enough. You said the rea l world. Okay, I know who I work with. I know what my kids talk about in class every day. She said, I said, w ell, I listen to what my children say in class and I challenge them all the time to go beyond what they see. I tell my athletes, get an academic scholarship as well as a n academic
MFP 059; Evans; Page 9 scholarship. Why, Ms. Evans? Because if you get injured, your aca demic scholarship still covers you while you work on your degree because if you get red A nd now the NCAA requirement they take these academic test to make sure they able to read, write, and understand We got kids going into colle somebody kept passing them along still here why our system is falling apart. W e have been passing people. Teachers have lost the basic W: May I ask you some biographical information because we kind of bypassed that? Would you please state your full name? E: Reverend Tanya Edwards Evans W: And when and where were you born? E: Born and raised in Jackson Mississippi. G raduate of Calla way High School, graduate of University of Southern Mississippi, and a graduate of Memphis Theological Seminary. W: Okay. E: And the mother of two males and two females. My two men are M arines. My oldest child is working on a degree in m ortuary s cience. My younger child is working on a double major in accounting and hotel management W: Who were your parents?
MFP 059; Evans; Page 10 E: My parents are Darus and Sherman Edwards W: Where are they from ? E: M y father is from Greenwood area; Greenwood, Mississippi where he was raised by his a unt. My mother is from Charleston, South Carolina. W: And your dad, who were his parents? E: Hattie and Charles M cGh ee W: And where are they from? E: Tylertown area W: E: Tylertown, Mississippi. That is Walthall County. [ L aughter] W: E: Carolina. W: O kay and how about their parents? E: No, I do not of their names W: How about of your great grandparents, do you have knowl edge of any of them on either side?
MFP 059; Evans; Page 11 E: I do know that my great grandfather was a French was a French officer. My great great grandmother was a Carolina Indian. She was from the tribe there. She had fifteen children. My great grandmothe r on my m side was a mother, the only woman tha t we knew that was six feet tall. S he bore six boys; all of them were either in musician or in education. W: Now you r e E: This is on my m W: E: W: Okay. E: . W: And y ou mentioned your four children. W hat are their names? E: Timothy Evans, Cassinthia Evans, James Evans, and Darus Evans W: What is your earliest memory of your personal education? E: Personal education, Mary C. Jones Elementary on what used to be Whit field Mills Road in Jackson, Mississippi, which is now Martin Luther King Boulevard in Jackson, Mississippi [Laughter] W: Did you have a favorite teacher or fa vorite subject there?
MFP 059; Evans; Page 12 E: My favorite subject was, has always been math. When I got to high school, it d the same time and she was my biology teacher in high school. She was able to quote that biology book and never looked down at the page [L aughter] And I said, Lord, if I ever teach, let me be like her But she was stern S he expected the best out of us and Ms. Affineck Cotton was the same way, she taught English. t W: E: Ms. Young. Ms. Dorothy Young W: Now, Ms. Aff i neck Cotton E: Was English. Twelfth grade English. A nd she demanded a lot from us. I enjoyed her because I had an opportuni ty at my high school, Calloway, the year that I became a senior, we were able to do a college step. We got a chance to pick our instructors for o ne course. And I chose her for Black Literature and Literary W riting and I was introduced to black writers and it was an interesting thing to see that we actually had more than Richard Wright and Nikki Giovanni and all of these people that I likes to use, but there were other writers. And now my daughter, my oldest child, is collecting different writers. I have a l ibrary at h ome with Jerome Dick e y and E. Lynn Harris a nd Kimberla Lawson Roby a nd now my grandbaby loves books. Saying, she fuss at me, Grandma, when are you coming back to take me to the library? She wants to go to the library. Not the park, the library. [Laughter] So.
MFP 059; Evans; Page 13 language A of ten. I have present living, four brothers living and two sisters. W: What are the names of your broth ers and sisters? E: Beverly, Thomas, Jerome, Kelvin, Is et t a and Douglas. My deceased brother, one that we do know the name of is Alonzo, Vietnam vet, and my twin sister Tanya, and then one unknown. So. W: Outside of religiously inspired literature because but in terms of otherwise what would be your, who are your favorite authors or your favorite books? E: My favorite author would be Ki mberla Lawson Roby, who talks, who writes in Christian fiction. She talks about the drama that occurs around churches. And my other favorite writer would more than likely be Jerome Dick e y But again, I like reading magazine s books. Since I spend a lot of time, as I say, by myself, I do a lot of reading, but I spend a lot of time learning stuff in education so as I work with adults going back to school or children struggling, I kno B ut technolo gy has made us lazy in learning W e can go online and kick out anything. W: cation, the Sanctuary. I just typed in Civil R ights Laurel and Mississippi and it c a me up with this address. So, I guess sometimes it make us a little lazy.
MFP 059; Evans; Page 14 E: The reason why, what I mean by lazy in technology is kids will go to the library and kick out a report about somebody and then they turn it in as their work. W: Cut and paste. E: A nd I happen ed to tell o ne of my former students that. home and turn this in as yours, go home and write i t like a seventh grader would write it. And I told her mom, d pla She said, s ever told us that. I said, y ou know now because we have a program. Technology has it s benefit. We have program s now eople hav e lost their degrees because of that program. B ut I want us to s s o our people can survive. Not teach to a test, but teach the skill. Teach them how to think where th ey can answer on the top of their head as we used to do in extemporaneous speech class. You had to go [ Laughter] W: Were you in forensics in high school? Did speech and debate? You mentioned extemporaneous speaking. E: Yeah, I was officer of Future Farmer s of America and that was one of their always had the ability to get elected into a p osition without a lot of effort. [ Laughter] Used to aggravate my little sister that she be
MFP 059; Evans; Page 15 because we are a year apart A nd we had chemistry together in high school, we had biology together in high school and it was a competition. She would study, I w [ Laughter] W: How did you get involved in FFA again? How has that expanded your leadership? E: I got involved in FFA when I became part of a horticulture class at the Career Development Center in Jackson A nd because my fascination with plants and animals and then in their structure about policy rules and all of this. And I was always interested in law and structure so it became second nature to me in do ing policy, procedure and rules. A nd because I was also, most of the time, scared of speaking in front of folk, I would do a speech if I knew what I had to talk about, because I had time to put it on paper, but I got challenged by Mr. Overby to do one whe A nd I served as th e p resident of that chapter my junior and s enior year. S o But g etting in school organizations give s you an outlet to introduce you to different things. The extra curriculars of the schools has its benefit because it introduce even the quietest kid to something new or open the door to different skill they FBLA, all of these things that we have in the high schools y the Deltas, where they bring teenage girls and then we house them here and teach them etiquette and proper dress and W: Delta Sigma Theta Sorority incorporated?
MFP 059; Evans; Page 16 E: M m h m. And we work with them on etiquette and behavior and how you should be acting; you know, presenting yourself and how important it is to stay on top of your grades. So, groups like that have helped some of our young ladies see a them becoming a baby making machine as society has pretty number of them finishing schoo l. Some of them even with children have finished and went on to do bigger and better things. B W: Are you in a s orority? E: W: Okay. And I just want to b ack up for a second, you mentioned Mr. Ob e ry E: Overby W: Who was Mr. Overby? E: Overby. He was the horticulture instructor that always challenged me to go outside my comfort zone [L aughter] A nd especially when we had to have competitions. I wo uld always assign somebody else; being p resident, I get to tell someon e else they doing it. He said, o example, you need to show t hem that you can do it as well. journey started. W: How d id you end up being the m inister here as opposed to working in horticulture and agricultural science?
MFP 059; Evans; Page 17 E: That is pretty muc h what we call the call story. I have been active i n the church since I was about nine or ten years old. It is something I have alway s been able to do. According to my big sister, I can take any text and explain it to a young person and an old person and never lose either one of them in the conversation. My first profession actually I wanted to be, was a lawyer [L aughter] I even went t o school for it, paralegal studies, and was getting ready to be go t o Howard University. Got married and God turned me toward education at the request of a retired teacher. W: E: Ms. Emma Moore. She said, I need you to go take the E. N T We need some more black instructors, teachers in classro oms who really care about kids. I said, o k ay B ecause E. N T and I took it and passed it on the first shot and amazed a lot of folk in education [Laughter] you d o that? You an education major. I said, b ecause my teachers taught me how to think A nd I just memorized facts for the test, but they taught me how to think S o I went into teaching and I have done that with school s for seventeen years. I was also a G E D instructor for Hi nds Community College and I enjoyed doing that for the simple reason, we need to get our attitudes off the bott om and bring them closer to the sky But the ministry came in the mi d st of the illness of my husband and everything I had to do, juggling the whole family. I decided to take my calling, accept my calling into the ministry. And everyone in my family said, w
MFP 059; Evans; Page 18 paid for it [Laughter] B ecause I had been doing trainings, teaching the Methodist structure all over the state of Mississippi, all the way through high school and college. So, I had already been doing it as a lay person and so I accepted it. My got to go someplace by myself, then my s ons Mama you sure you going t o be all right? Mama gonna be f ine. So, my journey is not over. W e still have a lo e is A nd I tell my churches, the reason that we are not growing is we shut people out once they enter the door. We have open door for them to come in, bu t we shut them out once they get in. ls that they can be used by God, a nd then they walk right back out those doors and you ity is to help people see where they are in God. Not where people want you to be; where God wants you to be. A nd God can take the simplest creature and make them important. He says, f ool, watch an ant, you might learn something A an ant is one of the smallest God created. But he teaches you that you work, you should have a work ethic on anything that you do rking on is hoping to educate our folk so when the time come s, be of good use A nd lean on and trust God, not just let it be a phrase on a dollar bill or a coin, but truly trust him. Especially with the lay offs of Mason and Sanderson and [inaudib le 34:05], for major employers here in Laurel, in the hospitals. I think I talked to
MFP 059; Evans; Page 19 [ Break in i nterview ] E: What? W: Could you tell me a little bit about the history of the marker outside? E: We have a marker outside recognizing the date that Martin Luther King spoke here at St. Paul. W: It was March 19, 1968? E: March 19 It wa s a . that marker came up about five years ago. Through the history department at J C J C and my W: J C J C ? E: Jones Junior College. Jones County Junior College. [Laughter] It came up with our church historian, realizing that we had not recognized that and she got with the state of Mississippi H istorical S ociety and they got all the inform ation in articles from the newspaper that day and the days after and we put the marker down I think it was two years ago. W: E: Estelle Christian, she was serving as the church historian then. She pre sently still lives here. S four years old W:
MFP 059; Evans; Page 20 E: ave to show you where she lives. S he can give you all kinds of historical stuff on the city of Laurel and the black community businessmen be cause she was part of all of that. W: Okay, I wish I had time to spend all d ay with perhaps one more person. S an appropriate person to speak with. E: W: Well, I hope that able to es tablish a more longer lasting relationship. The with. We work with the Sunflower County Freedom Project up in the D elta and Indianola we continue to come and we come back to back in September, up in the Delta. Perhaps this is an opportunity to establish this relationship. E: history. Th ere is a female by the name of Ms. Lo is Flag retired educator of fifty years. If you want to know anything about the history of Hin d s County, she knows it. She can even tell you family lineages and who married who a Ms. Fla g, you eighty year s old how you remember all of that? She said, b ecause I love histor y. She sits there and goes through. T hey just recently took down the only wood bridge at Edwards to put a concrete bridge over the train track and she had to go take pictures of it taking he only thing she remember that eighty years w as that wo od bridge going across the
MFP 059; Evans; Page 21 railroad tracks So, t You can call St. Paul at any point or you can cal l me. W: I appreciate that. E: And I can let you Ms. Estelle [ L aughter] W: Definitely E: Because I think she would love it along with have born and raised here, so they know all the changes that have come through here in Laurel. W: Well, i n closing the interview, I want to thank you for allowing me to take this time to speak with you and give you the opportunity to make any comments that you would like to make and at the concl usion of those comments, that will conclude the interview. E: church of Ms. Leo n tyne Price. H er home family house is right across the street. We are a church that is trying t o re establish our connection of our past to our Mississippi [End of i nterview] Final edited by: Diana Dombrowski, July 19, 2013


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Tomorrow's lineup, today…
Furcal, SS
Ethier, RF
Manny, LF
Martin, C
Loney, 1B
Kemp, CF
Blake, 3B
DeWitt, 2B
Lowe, P
Joe also said he expects it to go back to the lineup we had for the Division Series once we face a right-hander in Game 2.
Read below for a longer post from earlier today.
113 Comments
Woohoo! Lineup already! Can't wait! Go Dodgers! Go DLowe! I expect another great game from D.Lowe! I've had him in my baseball fantasy teams for the last few years and although he told me in Spring Training not to pick him, I stayed with him!
Lineup looks good to me!
Woo Hoo…go Blue!!!
Countdown to Dodger Game Time ~ 29 hours and 25 minutes
I am so glad Joe is sticking with the same players in the line up, regardless of the pitcher ~ Great job!!!!
hey dcollins!!! Wow twice in the last 12 hours I have seen you on here. That's great!!!!!!!
Have a fabulous day!!!!
Hello there Nelly.
Now that my work stuff is over and my computer works, I'll be around a little more often.
I hope everyone is having a great day!
I'm so excited for tomorrow. I don't like these long layoffs.
Yay, a line-up! This long layoff is killing me. Let's just play already!
Btw, Josh and co., Jon W has a nice post up on DodgerThoughts about fan behavior at DS. Might be a good thing to revisit when the series shifts back to LA, no? A reminder to try to behave respectfully toward the enemy can't hurt. 😉
Go Blue!
I am glad to see Andre batting in front of Manny again. He's done a great job all year no matter where he's batted, but he's a good contact hitter and the 2 and 3 spots have worked well for him. I figured Joe wouldn't have him and Loney back to back against the lefty. Can't wait for tomorrow to come.
Hello all ITD: The line-up is great…same people but mixed around. Ethier in front of Manny is wonderful. He does great. Martin in the 4TH spot…he do it! Can't wait til tomorrow. I'll be off, so I will get to enjoy it at home.
I like Dre batting in front of Manny instead of behind him.
I'm sure he likes it better to.
It seems whoever has batted in front of Manny has done well except for when Martin did it when they first got Manny.
I really prefer Dre batting there now that Furcal is playing as I think having a lefty up if Furcal is on opens up the right side a little more having the first baseman holding on Furcal.
That being said most players are better hitters when they don't try to pull everything.
Also like bluecrew pointed out he has good contact as well as takes pitches and works the count giving Furcal more pitches to see to try to swipe a base.
Hopefully we'll see the low Lowe. If that is the case, I think we have a great chance in this 1st game.
In response to McCarver, I would be happy if any of the other Dodger outfielders put up the same numbers that Manny put up in Boston when he was as you say ,dogging it. Also I think most other teams would be happy with that kind of dogging it production. If there is any problem with Manny , I wouldn't look any further than Boras.
Wow I was for sure NOMAR was going to start at 1b against a lefty! Maybe he will start against Moyer, but if it ain't broke no need to change it! I think James can rip Cole and Jaime anyways!
Great lineup!
Dcollins ~ where have you been? We missed you!
Damn, they are putting Ned on "Rome is Burning" instead of Andre. What a letdown!
Ned is looking sweet! lol
Can anyone identify what type of dead critter that is on top of Ned's head?
vl lol haha. nice one!
TRU – That sucks that Ethier is not on it. In a way now I'm not mad at myself for forgetting to set my DVR to record.
Countdown to Dodger Game Time ~ 26 hours and 55 minutes
i know everyone is going to jump all over me for saying this.. but once manny gets his new contract, don't be surprised to see a change in his production.. everyone is eager to re-sign him, and clearly with the numbers he's put up and the affect he's had on this team, any baseball mind would tell you that you have to make the effort to do so.. but not for an extended period of time. not for an ungodly sum of money. i think he has a certain reputation for a reason and he's done stupid things in the past to earn that reputation.. and things like that don't just change overnight. yeah, he might prove everyone (and me) wrong and keep being a positive impact, but it's also very possible that he won't. plus, i still stand by my original contention that he and boras just want to go to the highest bidder, which very likely will be the yankees.. so we shall see..
McCarver is just trying to stir things up for his present employer – Fox Sports. The game has past him by. It's not the 60's, or 70's any more. The game has evolved alot since he hung up his cleats. He needs to put a sock in it, shut his pie hole, and keep his idiotic out dated opinions to himself. I just lost what little respect I had left for him.
on a more positive note.. i LOVE the lineup.. can't wait for the games to begin..
i have tickets to all three home games.. but game 5, wednesday, overlaps with my class.. i don't know that i can skip class to go to the game, and it would be AWFUL if the game was a clincher, or an elimination game, and i had to decide between class and the game.. my greatest hope is that we can sweep (one game at a time, i know..) so that game 5 doesn't need to happen.. but then i'd feel bad for scurtis.. we will see..
tony jackson's blog says that saito most likely won't make the NLCS roster.. i hope that means that Kuo will.. we need Kuo as another lefty for the pen.. and that would free up kershaw to start in game 4..
Leaving Saito off would be a mistake I think, unless they think he just can't give it a go! If Kuo can return to form, that is huge, but still having Sammy in the bullpen would be nice.
Sara, it better go 5 games. I just booked my hotel and flight and got my ticket in the mail. Ugh, if they sweep I will still come and make it a mini vacation lol
scurtis, i would only be because he can't go..
here's what tony jackson said:
After the workout, after most of the team had boarded buses back to the downtown Westin, Saito went to the visiting bullpen with Torre and Honeycutt and had a side session to try to work out a mechanical problem that has plagued him since he returned from the DL. The problem is with his balance pitching out of the windup, and the solution for now is that he has scrapped pitching out of the windup and will go exclusively out of the stretch, but that's if he goes at all.
definitely make it a mini-vacation anyway.. don't you want warm weather? it's 98 degrees today..
OMG its 98? wow, like 62 here! lol
Id love to hit the beach and some nice restaurants and bars, so I'm coming no matter what!
yeah, it's ridiculously hot right now.. i think it's supposed to continue for a bit..
I think what Manny did to get out of Boston was lame.
But that was probably not just his doing. I'm sure Boras was on his shoulder in his red suit & wearing his little horns telling him what to do.
Manny was in Boston for 7+ years before it really went bad.
If we can get him for 4 years I think we would have the LA Manny for a least a few years before the '08 Boston Manny would show up.
TBlue-Hello there. I hope life is going great for you! I've been wrapped up with work and went on vacation. But the main thing was my computer died, so I wasn't able to get on for awhile. That issue has been fixed & I'm set now.
Kuo sounds like he is pretty likely "in," so that's the good news, especially if Saito can't. Broxton, Kuo, Wade, Beimel, and then Maddux/Proctor/Kershaw/whoever, that's still a very good pen. An effective Saito would be even better of course.
SARA – I do hope we get to sweep the Phillies. But yes that would suck for Scurtis, flying in from Chicago. And I totally agree with you about Manny. He is human, so most likely there is a chance that he might relax after a contract is sign. But just hope that L.A. is where he wants to be, that he fell in-love with the team, stadium, fans & City and even if Yankees offer him more, he stays in L.A. and keep inspiring the rest of the teams and the Rookies-to-be. Just HOPING!
I'm optimistic as anyone but we're not gonna sweep the Phillies. And I'd be equally shocked if they sweep us. It should go 6 or 7, but no way it goes less than 5.
Yeah no doubt, Dodgers in 6 or 7. Hopfully 4 or 5!
Countdown to Dodger Baseball ~ 26 hours and 12 minutes
the latimes is reporting that saito is definitely not the closer against philly even if he makes the roster..
also, here's cole hamels talking some crap about dodger fans:
"On the West Coast, I think when I went to the games we arrived at the third inning and left by the eighth," Hamels said. "You had to wake up the next morning to see if the team won, versus the East Coast, they're here. They'll be after the game cheering you on. I think that's been great for what I've experienced and great for a player. And that's something you want to play in front of.
"So it's just something where I love the West Coast, don't get me wrong," Hamels added with a smile. "I hope they don't kill me now. They're never going to invite me back. It's just something that the East Coast, they're more passionate and more involved, and I think that just brings the love of the game a little bit more."
he will see that playoff crowds are different.. except that the weekday games start at 5:22pm which will mess up things since people have work.. i'm leaving work early, hopefully everyone else does too..
dcollins, i don't think they should even offer a 4 year deal. i say 2 years, club option for a 3rd. nothing more. he is 36 after all. and also the dodgers have proven that they never get what they expect with long term deals, and 4 years is way too long.
and i say that from a baseball person perspective.. not as me who didn't want him any longer than the few months of this year..
So those that are going to the game there is your bulletin board material.
I'm sure most of us on here are the type that are passionate and involved.
If your late because of work or whatever, then stay late. This is the 1st time in 20 years they've been in this situation. Miss out on a little sleep.
Also show him our passion and involvement. Scream & yell. Put down the beach balls & use your hands too clap, watch the game not the ball.
I'm sorry to those that are pro beach ball. I can't stand them.
dcollins, i can't stand beach balls either!! but i am proud of dodger fans to say that in the playoff game against the cubs there were hardly any.. and there were none in my section at all. so proud! 🙂
Sarah, as a 42 year old, I'm a firm believer that 40 is the new 30!
I don't think he'd agree to a 2 year deal since he wanted out of the final 2 years at 20 million. If we could get him for 2 years in the mid 20's great. But I think he wants more than 2 years. 3 with an option for a 4th is what I would like.
It wouldn't last 4 anyway because Borass would probably get him to opt out of the final year.
i really doubt he'd agree to a 2 year deal too. but i'm just saying that i don't think he should be offered more than that. if they do, it'll just end up being another bad long term deal.. we have too many already..
THINK PASSION, THINK WIN, THINK DODGERS! And after you THINK it….SHOW IT! Even if we are loosing (don't stay quiet like the Cubs Fan)….keep cheering with passion ALL THE WAY!….L.A. CAN GET LOUD! DODDGERS FAN CAN GET LOUD! GOOOOOOOOO DOOOOOOODGEEEEEERS!
Well I'm out to a concert. Everyone have a good evening and I'll be checking back tomorrow…for the MORNING ITD PEP RALLY!
Sarah-I had a tough experience with the whole beach ball thing when we went to the game in September. I won't share it here and now, as it was extremely negative and now isn't the time for that story.
I will be writing a letter to the McCourts in the offseason.
I'll bring it up on here after the season to see what others feel and get different opinions about it.
5 questions for Mr. Ned:
1) Andy LaRoche in the last couple years has had shoulder as well and hand injuries. Did these affect him to the point where you felt he would no longer be capable of being the power hitter he was in the minors up through 2007?
2) Did the injuries to LaRoche influence decisions to limit his playing time in 2008? Was there an intention to not let it get out that the injury was more devastating that we would think?
3) What names are the Dodgers looking at for second or third base this offseason? Does the injury to Orlando Hudson make him less attractive? Is consideration being given to trading for Adrian Beltre?
4) What are your intentions with regard to keeping Manny Ramirez for 2009 and beyond? Given the excitement he has created, has Frank McCourt green-lighted signing him, or is the combination of his age and contract demands a concern?
5) How is Andruw Jones doing? Will he be an effective contributor in 2009, or will he still be dealing with injuries and getting his swing back?
bye rose, have a great day.
patriotacts, very good questions..
I am definately leaving early. Saturday's playoff game, I was outside at 3:50 pm. I saw a lot of fans also waiting. My friend Rosa and her daughter were in the car on the side street waiting for the gates to open. Another friend was holding a parking spot on the steet for me while they opened.
It will be a little harder on Monday as I leave work at 5:pm. but I think I will drive that day and leave at … 2:pm. All of a sudden I have an important doctor's appointment that day :-).
just to clarify, the Dodger Trolley is free. The Metro bus is the one that has a day pass of …I think is still $5. you can take any metro bus, the Gold line, Red line, orange. The Red line goes underneath and travels from North Hollywood to Union Station. Gold is the Pasadena one. Hope that helps. Maybe let us know where you will sit or come to the Top of the Park and say hi if you can.
Remembering Saturday's game, I can't get Abba Fernando's song out of my mind after it was played for Fernando that day. I hearded before when they honor Fernando but I guess the playoffs got me nostalgic for the days when I saw Fernando in his glory days. here is the youtube. Check out the outfits:
Thanks Crzblue for the help.
This is my seat: Section 156LG, Row T, Seats 7
Im Curt, nice to meet you all. I don't think I have given my name on here before. Im 31 and work in Chicago and ready to celebrate more!
Yeah I would love to stop by and say hi to ITD people!
Gotta get some work done now, you all have a great evening!
Today had to be one of the most dreadful in a long time. Have to wait another 24 hours or so for the game and, I was all fired up to see Andre on "Rome is Burnning" and got stuck with Ned! Not only that, but I think I'll have to watch the playoff series on Fox in mute mode to avoid the inane commentary by Tim McCarver. All day, I had to hear him explain why Manny is despicable……….but, a great hitter. Says he just might say it again during the game tomorrow. What a jerk.
Lol, Sara. I'm not much for beach balls myself. I know I probably sound like a grouch, but I really don't like the wave either.
Countdown to Dodger Baseball ~ 24 hours and 9 minutes getting closer….. 🙂
What is this with no Andre on "Rome is Burning?" My students minded it less than I did. They said at least we got to see the Dodgers. I couldn't disagree with them, but they haven't been trying to figure out Ned all year Ethier.
I am so glad to see others who despise the beach balls and the wave! I don't understand why beach balls are so popular. They are dangerous and a huge distraction and yet when an usher actually intercepts one or one drops to the next level or the playing field fans boo. Hey folks, watch the damn game! I suggest that the Dodgers open up the stadium on a non-game day, give everyone a beach ball, sell them hot dogs and beer and let those who like this activity have a ball while giving Mr. McCourt some additional revenue. Then maybe these folks will leave us fans alone who actually come to Dodger Stadium to watch a baseball game.
I don't know if Dodger Stadium is the only place where fans come late and leave early but it is hard to shake that image when we see it every time we go to a game.
Amen lbirken! Maybe we should bring some frisbees & lawn chairs.
When I went to a few games last season there was more excitement about a stupid beach ball. I think if everybody who doesn't like them grabs them and pops them it would maybe start to get people to realize that there is a game to watch.
If it was a between inning thing then no problem.
I'm all for having fun but having 10 people standing in front of you looking back calling for and wanting the beach ball sent to them is absurd. Not a bad idea for McCourt to make some extra change.
lbirken ~ interesting observation. I know when I go to the game, they look in my purse, and I'm assuming they look into whatever else someone bring into the park. So, how do they get all those damn beach balls inside? I guess they stuff them in their pockets. Maybe the next step in security will be a pat down. I think the wave is just as annoying……..so outdated.
good evening friends. I see it's slow around here without Dodger baseball.
Good strong lineup. I agree that Andre in the 2 spot is wise. No matter how you stack 'em we are a strong, awesome team. "Aint No Stopping Us Now" – Dodger's new theme song 🙂
Can't wait for tomorrow. It's going to be a Dodger (and Disneyland) weekend. Go Blue, I Love LA!!!
good evening everyone! i'm still in hawaii! and i'm still having a great time! 🙂 can't wait to watch our boys play!!!!!
well it looks like its pretty quiet in here so i'll get back to beautiful Hawaii!!! 🙂 GO DODGERS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ethieraholic and dodger fan for life!!!!!!!!!!!!
i am SO happy that people agree with me about the wave and the beach balls and all other annoying things at games!! seriously people, watch the baseball game!! that's what you're there for, not all the crazy inane sideshows..
It seems like it would be a lot better if fans only did the Beach Balls at the bottom of the innings, that way, if they find their way on the field, it messes up the opposition pitcher's rhythm. Just a thought.
I'll echo everyone else's comments on beach balls, the wave, and anything else that detracts from watching the game, including the clowns whose only goal seems to be consumption of mass quantities of overpriced junkfood. I love ibirken's idea of a revenue stream for Frank but, since these are tough economic times, why go to the ballpark at all when you can buy the beverage of your choice, run through the drive-up, take your beach ball, and GO TO THE BEACH!!! Now there's an original concept. It's also much cheaper and leaves the ballpark free for baseball fans.Love the lineup. Glad to see that JoJo realizes that nothing is broken. The fact is that Hamels is right about the difference between East Coast and West Coast fans. Philly, Boston, and, for that matter, Chicago fans are more passionate, for the most part, than West Coast fans. Years of national telecasts showing the stream of cars leaving Dodger Stadium in the 7th and 8th innings don't aid the reputation of fans out here.
DC – just a quick observation…
I think the beach balls may have been the HIGHLIGHT of the 2007 season. – LOL!!
Good to see you back on here!!
Countdown to Dodger Baseball ~ 20 hours and 22 minutes
Let the hate begin. Needless to say this SOB won't be on my fantasy teams next year.
"On the West Coast, I think when I went to the games we arrived at the third inning and left by the eighth," Hamels said. "You had to wake up the next morning to see if the team won, versus the East Coast, they're here. They'll be after the game cheering you on. I think that's been great for what I've experienced and great for a player. And that's something you want to play in front of.
"So it's just something where I love the West Coast, don't get me wrong," Hamels added with a smile. "I hope they don't kill me now. They're never going to invite me back. It's just something that the East Coast, they're more passionate and more involved, and I think that just brings the love of the game a little bit more."
I am not a fan of beach balls ethier. LOL!!!!
Good Evening Beav!!! Haven't seen you on here in a couple days. How are you? 🙂
nsblues – how are things up north?
things are good, just starting a new book, White Noise by Don Delillo, and about to pick up my girlfriend's mom from the airport.
Cole Hamels will be getting drilled in MLB 2K8 land later tonight.
Drill him good nsblues!!!!!!
I think that there is a bit of a misconception about LA fans not being as passionate. Yes, some do leave early during the regular season, but I think it has more to do with the fact that even though we have Metrolink, overall our public transportation system is far below other large cities like New York, Chicago, Boston, etc. We still have a lot more people commuting to their jobs in their own cars and they have to get to bed at a decent hour and might have a long ride home from the stadium. I think people arrive late due to our traffic issues too.
Beav's been chillin'.
Be interesting to see what comes out of the woodwork tomorrow. I did check out The Pulse a few days ago. I see someone must have turned in their version of Uranus because all of his comments were deleted. Stuff like that makes you wonder how they function in everyday life.
my only regret is that I cant drill Joe Morgan in the booth!
bluecrewgirl – I am not sure why people leave early, but I do have a new understanding why many do not get there until the 3rd inning. Normally I am there when the gates open, but during one of their first home series' against the Padres, I was in Anaheim for a volleyball tournament with my daughter. Well, of course the tournament ran late, and we left, I believe it was Cerritos, about 6 pm. Due to traffic, we were one of the ones who didn't come in until the 3rd inning. Now I know why.
enchanted – it's good to hear somebody pulled the switch on some of those bloggers on "The Pulse." I think they need to take pointers from ITD, and learn how to channel their frustration in more creative ways like songs, poetry, etc. Glad to hear you are just chillin' in the southwest 🙂
here's a good article to read…
here's is the most notable line of the article:
The Dodgers' payroll is a substantial $118.5 million. Yet the lineup in the sixth inning Sept. 23, the day the Dodgers defeated the San Diego Padres 10-1 and practically sealed the deal on the division title, cost owner Frank McCourt a grand total of $2.547 million.
Joe Morgan and Jon Miller, perhaps – LOL!!!!
also this line: Has there ever been a team with such an inverse relationship between cost and production?
i'm pretty sure we've all brought up the same point at one time during the season, or another..
The more I read of Saito's quotes, the less inclined I am to feel he really WANTS to be out there in a pressure series. The club says he's fine physically…so he's either a head case or the brass is telling white lies again, ala Penny, Schmidt, et al., concerning the true nature of his health…or non-health.
another good line: The players most responsible for the team's first postseason victory in 20 years, a shocking three-game sweep of the NL favorite Chicago Cubs, combine for 2.2 percent of the payroll.
okay, i'll stop and let you guys read the article.. it's worth the read.. promise 🙂
That is a great article Sara. It just shows we will still have issues in the off season with a few of our overpaid, non productive (an in some cases non-existent) veterans.
exactly dnelly.. and this is why i wouldn't ever jump on the ken gurnick led ned colletti bandwagon..
ooh, did you read the part about what the overpaid people are doing right now? yeah, um, penny and jones skipped town.. what punks. i have no respect for that. safe to say penny probably isn't getting that option this off-season..
I mentioned yesterdeay how nobody has seen or heard from Andruw. As much grief as we have given Sweeney, it was good to see him having a good time and being part of the team even though he is not on the roster.
Sweeney does seem like a real team player and good guy. Maybe he'll make a good manager or batting instructor. He was a great hitter at one time even though his skills have declined.
bluecrewgirl – The players really seemed to like Sweeney alot too, but when your trying to win ball games, it comes down to the matter of who can actually hit the ball, and not who the nice guys are. I am glad Torre did what he did, and it seems like Sweeney is taking it in stride too, which is really a great thing to see.
I hear ya about not jumping on the Ned bandwagon. Let's not forget who really built most of this team – Logan White. Ned to his credit, didn't mess that up though. I think Manny was probably McCourt driven, but even giving the benefit of the doubt to Ned on that one, a third season of Blake and Manny hardly make up for ALL of Ned's busts, whom are too numerous to list. Its easier to list the one's that do pass muster: Manny, Blake, Saito, Maddux, Berroa (that's iffy), Nomore (even iffier), Ozuna (I'm really stretching now.)
His dealings will have left us with a Swiss cheese line-up for next season, and worse, probably hamstrung us for signing any FA of significance because of all the wasted money.
(Reminds me of that quote from Naked Gun: Is this somekind of bust? – Yes, its very impressive."
i agree with you two girls about sweeney.. i don't like him on our team playing and coming up in clutch situations.. but i do like him on our team on the bench.. he definitely seems like a positive influence.. good for the chemistry..
from the PE blog:
Hong-Chih Kuo is expected to be placed on the NLCS roster tomorrow when it becomes finalized, and it appears James McDonald is the odd man out.
i would imagine that would also depend on saito..
enchanted – when you speak, you speak well. LOL!!!
If you think about this season and the one player who has caused the most turmoil, IMO is Andruw, and where the hell is he…. at home. He was brought onto this team (by Ned) to help the outfield, which in turn did the exact opposite, eventually requiring the Dodgers to get Manny (which is turning out to be a good thing). However, once the season is over, he will be a big issue once again, especially if we some how manage to sign Manny.
Dnel, as always, you make an excellent point. If we do resign Manny, and can't offload Andruw and/or Pierre, it is going to be a very messy outfield situation next year. ARGH!
sparkleplenty ~ Well, sara and enchanted brought up not getting on the Ned bandwagon, and I think they just reminded me that we have some major issues to deal with in the off-season. Those issues just happen to be the bad Ned deals. We are all in fantasy land right now because of Ned acquiring Manny and Casey, and for that we are all thankful, I'm sure, but reality will set in again, once the season is over. I guess we have plenty of time to talk about this in the off season. I am really happy for what these young players have done, and what Manny, Casey and Maddux have done to help all the them along.
We've all recognized the inept dealings of Ned – they just don't go away, do they? It's been interesting listening to and reading various items about his "success". Those reporters are viewing the situation like new brides – looking at the groom with half-opened eyes, only seeing what they want to see.
Countdown to Dodger Baseball ~ 18 hours and 3 minutes
sparkleplenty ~ I don't think Ned is going to go away ethier (either) -lol!!
17 hours to go
thanks 🙂
So, in the off season, are we going to do a countdown too. We thought 5 days was long. What are we going to do 3 and a half months.
Not sure, maybe I'll make a Baseball advent calendar, in the shape of Dodger Stadium.
I'd buy that calendar NSB!
Does any else feel like a kid on Christmas Eve?
I've been puttering around all day cleaning and trying to get some stuff organized at home. But I can't stop wanting to listen/watch baseball!
At least I had a softball game tonight to get my fix.
I think it's time to break out the XBOX and play some baseball myself. Thanks for the idea NSB.
Don't you hate playing a video game and having to listen to Morgan and Miller! Miller I can live with but Morgan still brings back that awful memory.
Hey DCollins, how are you doing?
Yeah, Miller kinda fades into the background for me, but Morgan, I just hate how he thinks he knows EVERYTHING. "You know, I wouldn't throw a pitch up-and-in in that situation." No ___ Sherlock, you're an ex-2nd baseman, you know nothing about pitching! what a smug jerk. I think as punishment for two broadcasting jerks, they should lock Tim McCarver and Joe Morgan in a small room with a TV only showing Major League II 24/7.
What's worse, on my GameCube baseball game, the announcers are Mike Krukow and Duane Kuiper! You can tell its fake, though, because when you play as the Dodgers, they kiss your butt the same way they do the Giants.
Don't forget to bean West-Coast-Fan-hating Cole Hamels tonight!
Oh come on now NSB. Krukow and Kuiper are great dudes.
I'm great NSB. Thanks for asking!
2 days off in a row (I have a job with irregular hours & days off), had a softball game tonight that we came back and won in walk off fashion, and get to watch Dodgers baseball and eat Dodger Dogs tonight!
Also living in the Bay Area and the Dodgers in the LCS doesn't get any sweeter other than if they move on and win it all!
Oh and don't worry I was just kidding about K&K. They drive me crazy.
It would be sweet for them to get a 6th for California and the Giants to be 0 for Cali!
Cool. Half the time, I expect Krukow to get a towel and start snaping at Kuiper. And they have to play umpire on every close play. No "could"'s or "might"'s, just "He was out!" when the call was safe, but close.
I have a morning class where I go with my Dodgers hat, and there's a Pads fan, a Cubs fan and a Phillies fan, among the prerequisite Giants fan or two. This past month has been very interesting in silent glares and smirks across the room.
well, I've gotta call it a night. Have a good one, Dcollins
and I wonder… do you think the Giants have wasted time building a trophy case?
Manny could have been a Phillie
Wednesday, October 8, 2008 | Print Entry
Let's play a little game of what-if. What if the world had spun a little bit differently in July?
If it had, Manny Ramirez might still have found himself playing in the NLCS this week. It just would have been for the Phillies, not against them.
Back in July, Phillies officials constantly denied they were actively pursuing Manny. But now that we've had 2½ months to sort out what really happened, it's clear they were actually a lot more interested back then than they ever let on.
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I wish I was an Insider Subsciber so I could read the rest of that story.
I would love to see a 15-3 whooping the last time Lowe pitches in CBP and even Sweeney was good last year but I don't think it possible to have that scored like last year.
The longest regular season in professional sports has come and gone, leaving a mad scramble to decide the team that has what it takes to put together a tidy run of four wins in seven games.
The Los Angeles Dodgers and Philadelphia Phillies have been both lucky enough and good enough to emerge from the pile with a shot at the World Series, so who is in a better position to win the National League Championship Series?
Below is a position-by-position breakdown of the Phillies and Dodgers.
Russell Martin, Dodgers. Martin is one of the premier young catchers in the game. A two-time All-Star in three years in the majors, the Ontario native played in 155 games during the regular season as manager Joe Torre used the 24-year-old's athleticism at third base when he needed a day off behind the plate. Martin hit .280 with 13 homers while leading all major league catchers with 18 steals.
Carlos Ruiz/Chris Coste, Phillies. Ruiz got most of the playing time in the Division Series and down the stretch because of his superior defense, but batted just .219 with four homers in the regular season before going 1-for-14 in the division series. Coste serves as a pinch hitter and offensive backup, batting .236 with nine homers in 274 at-bats.
Edge: Dodgers
First base:
James Loney, Dodgers. Loney took a step back in his second full season, especially in the power department. After clubbing 15 blasts in 96 games in 2007, he managed 13 in 161 games this season. But he hit a grand slam in Game One against the Chicago Cubs and finished with six RBI in the three-game series.
Ryan Howard, Phillies. Howard was the hottest player in the NL in September, batting .352 with 11 homers. Overall, he led the majors with 48 homers and 146 RBI. He went 2-for-11 in the NLDS against the Milwaukee Brewers but drew five walks in front of Pat Burrell.
Edge: Phillies
Second base:
Blake DeWitt, Dodgers. The rookie DeWitt has moved over to second after starting the season at third base and represents a defensive upgrade over veteran Jeff Kent, who is still recovering from knee surgery. DeWitt hit .264 in the regular season and doubled twice against the Cubs last week.
Chase Utley, Phillies. Utley has been the best offensive second baseman in the game for the past few years and has recently made himself into one of the best defensive players at the position as well. He slumped badly at the plate in the second half, dropping his OPS from .955 before the All-Star break to .855 after, and went 2-for-15 against the Brewers.
Edge: Phillies
Third base:
Casey Blake, Dodgers. Blake hit .251 after his trade to Los Angeles in July, with 10 homers and 23 RBI in 53 games. He doesn't have the classic offensive profile for the hot corner but his bat plays up in the No. 8 spot in the lineup.
Pedro Feliz, Phillies. A superior defensive third baseman, Feliz hit 14 homers in the regular season but managed to post a paltry .302 on-base percentage. Philadelphia manager Charlie Manuel is not afraid to use Greg Dobbs either as a starter or pinch hitter in Feliz's place.
Edge: Dodgers
Rafael Furcal, Dodgers. Furcal went down with a back injury on May 5 and didn't return until September 24. When he's healthy, as he appeared to be in the NLDS, Fucal is one of the best leadoff hitters in the NL, with pop from both sides of the plate, speed and above-average defense.
Jimmy Rollins, Phillies. See above. Rollins and Furcal are similar players right down to their spots at the top of the lineup. Rollins went 6-for-16 against the Brewers and homered to leadoff Game Four. After struggling through much of the regular season, he batted .352 from August 25 until the end of the season.
Edge: push.
Left field:
Manny Ramirez, Dodgers. Ramirez has a World Series MVP award from his time with the Boston Red Sox and owns the career record for postseason homers. He hit .396 with 17 homers and 53 RBI in 53 games after joining the Dodgers at the trading deadline. He went 5-for-10 with a pair of homers and four walks against the Cubs.
Burrell, Phillies. Burrell played hero with a pair of homers in Game Four against Milwaukee but hit .215 with a .313 on-base percentage after the All-Star break and is a career .250 hitter against Los Angeles. The free agent to-be is prone to streaks, and he may have started a good one in the NLDS.
Edge: Dodgers.
Center field:
Matt Kemp, Dodgers. Another piece of Los Angeles' youthful corps, Kemp hit .290 with 18 homers and 35 steals in his first full season. The 24-year-old strikes out too much and doesn't have the most range in the world in center field, but he has all five tools.
Shane Victorino, Phillies. The "Flyin' Hawaiian" is one of the most versatile players in Charlie Manuel's lineup, able to bat at the top or bottom of the order. Victorino hit .293 with 14 homers and 36 steals in the regular season and hit a grand slam in Game Two against the Brewers. He has a strong arm and covers more ground than most in center.
Slight edge: Phillies
Right field:
Andre Ethier, Dodgers. Ethier has been a different player since Ramirez arrived, batting .368 with a 1.049 OPS since August 5. He led the team with 20 homers in the regular season while driving in 77 runs and scoring 90 times.
Jayson Werth, Phillies. One of the pleasant surprises in Philadelphia this season, Werth took the right field job from Geoff Jenkins midseason and never looked back, hitting 24 homers and stealing 20 bases. He could slide over to center field in a pinch and hit both second and sixth in the NLDS while going 5-for-16 with a homer and three doubles.
Slight edge: Dodgers
Derek Lowe, Chad Billingsley, Hiroki Kuroda and Clayton Kershaw, Dodgers. A nice mix of veteran experience (Lowe) and hard-throwing youth (Billingsley and Kershaw) with a Japanese sinkerballer throw-in. Lowe, Billingsley and Kuroda were dominant in the NLDS, helping limit the NL's top offense to six runs in three games. Lowe won the clinching games of the ALDS, ALCS and World Series with the Red Sox in 2004.
Cole Hamels, Brett Myers, Jamie Moyer and Joe Blanton, Phillies. Hamels is on the way to becoming one of the best pitchers in the game and allowed two hits in eight scoreless innings in Game One of the NLDS. Myers, Moyer and Blanton are inconsistent, with only Myers – among the three – with the stuff to be dominant at his best.
Edge: Dodgers.
Jonathan Broxton, etc., Dodgers. Los Angeles still has questions to answer, with the status of Takashi Saito and Hong-Chih Kuo up in the air. Broxton can be a top-shelf closer when his command is sound, pounding the zone with high-90s heat. Joe Beimel and Cory Wade are solid, and Greg Maddux will likely work as the long man.
Brad Lidge, etc., Phillies. Lidge still has yet to blow a save or suffer a loss this season. Clay Condrey, Chad Durbin, J.C. Romero and Ryan Madson form one of the top setup crews in the NL and rookie J.A. Happ will work as the long man. Philadelphia led the NL with a 3.19 bullpen ERA in the regular season.
Edge: Phillies.
Joe Torre, Dodgers. Torre has a proven track record after leading the New York Yankees to 12 consecutive playoff appearances and four World Series crowns.
Charlie Manuel, Phillies. Manuel always seems to be around the top of the standings, both with the Cleveland Indians in the past and now with Philadelphia, but this is his first trip to the LCS.
Edge: Dodgers.
Prediction: Dodgers in seven.
Utley could have been a Dodger
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Utley chose to go to UCLA and ended up being the Philadelphia Phillies' first pick (15th overall) in the 2000 draft. The three-time All-Star second baseman has no regrets about spurning his hometown team's offer, and he'll face the Dodgers when the NL championship series begins Thursday night.
"It was a difficult decision," Utley said. "Obviously, playing professional baseball was a dream of mine, but at that point I thought I was better suited going to college first. The money was there, but for me, it was about growing as a person and the college experience."
Utley and his father were among the 56,051 fans in the stands when the Dodgers beat Oakland in Game 2 of the 1988 World Series en route to winning the title in five games.
"It was a lot of fun, very exciting," he said, recalling Orel Hershiser's three-hitter against the heavily favored Athletics
Damn that Chase Utley grew up as a Dodgers fan and I really wish we had him.
Hello ITD. As Tommy Lasorda would say, "Never boo a Dodger." I cannot say anything negative about Manny. I love Manny especially for what it has done for the Dodgers. I think there would not have been a post season if it weren't for Manny and Casey. Before they arrived on the scene, it was almost like the Dodgers were sleepwalking through the games. It personally hurts me when I hear anything negative about any of our guys. We are in the playoffs for the first time in a long while. Let's just cheer them all! Go Dodgers!
All i want is to hear Vinny doing the commentating…just doesnt seem right to be listening to tony gwinn read info about the dodgers off of a cheat sheet when i know that in the next box over vin freaking scully is sitting there in his jacket and tie….makes me miss los angeles


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Sepultura-Beneath the remains
By 1989 speed metal was very popular and there were bands from many countries playing this sub-genre of metal. Brazil's Sepultura were a band who had started out in the mid-1980's playing a "speed for the sake of speed" style that was fairly noisy and not particularly innovative. Yet after a couple of releases, they were growing more focused and developing their skills. This album hears the band channelling and controlling an aggressive style of thrash. The most important factor in their favor might be they were controlling the pace rather than the pace controlling them. They knew when to go forth with frenzied all out parts, but they also were becoming adept at slowing the tempo down and building changes as well. At this point in time the two biggest speed metal scenes were likely the Bay area scene and the German scene. Both had somewhat distinctive styles and although Sepultura have a few elements of both in their sound, they also were bringing some of their own ideas to the table as well. They were using different tones and their song structures were not that predictable anymore. Above all else, these guys were keeping it heavy and that was a point that too many bands missed. Too often a speed metal progressed to some extent, but they would lose some of their heaviness. Not here as the progression in Sepultura's style allowed them to take concentrate more on pounding through their songs and the heaviness actually became more pronounced. This is certainly a strong speed metal album that doesn't always get it's due.


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What would you do with your time if doctors told you only have weeks left to live? Jerry Henson, a city councilman in Bryant has been faced with that decision and he's spending his time taking care of others.
At the Boys and Girls Club of Bryant, the rooms are filled with promise, potential and bright futures.
Just down the road, in a quiet hospice room, Jerry Henson's future is quickly slipping away.
"They've given me two weeks, ok? That's not very long," Henson said.
A sudden diagnosis of liver cancer has turned the Bryant city councilman's world upside down and taken him from the kids he's grown to love.
"I think they've done a lot more for me than I've done for them," Henson said.
But that's not what you'll hear from 12-year-old Samuel Johns.
"It's the kind of kindness you can't even comprehend. It's out of this world," Johns said.
14-year-old Tityana Moore and 10-year-old Karlie Coleman say the same thing about Henson.
"Mr. Jerry was like another father to me and I know that he'd do anything for anybody, no matter who you are or what you've been through," Moore said.
Coleman says, "We got really close. He knows sometimes I don't do stuff for my birthday, so he knew it would be good to throw me a birthday party and we had some time together."
"Oh, she just boohooed the entire time because she wasn't used to that," Henson said.
Henson has been someone to look up to in life for 12-year-old Gavin Lewis - an example even in his death.
"He has not many days left and I understand and that makes me feel sad, but he's helping us to the end," Lewis said.
Henson says in the days he has left, he wants to make sure the Boys and Girls Club of Bryant is taken care of.
"How many of these kids fall through the cracks," Henson said. "It always comes down to funding. We don't have any funding."
He's asking for donations to the club; an outpouring of funding to keep the work there going when he can't.
"Knowing that these are your last days and you're doing for others where you can't really do much for yourself, a lot of people wouldn't do that," Moore said.
"That doesn't mean we can't do good work in a short amount of time," Henson said.
While he'd like to have peace knowing the club is financially secure, he says he also wants to see more adults investing in the lives of kids.
"I don't want just their money. I need their passion. Money runs out. Passion doesn't ever run out," Henson said.
Filling kids with promise, potential, bright futures. Maybe more people would be described like this while they're still on Earth:
"He was an angel to me," Johns said.
"I've encountered an angel. I have. He's a true and most wonderful person," Moore said.
If you'd like to donate, go to BryantBGC.org/Donate


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Nr 221-EWhile talking about the worsening situation in Syria at his meeting in New York yesterday with UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon, Foreign Minister Urmas Paet said that the UN has a leading role and responsibility for finding a solution to end the violence. "The crimes against the people of Syria must stop. By now the conflict has touched the lives of over two million people," said Paet. "We support the efforts of the UN and the Arab League to end the civil war," he added. Paet stated that Estonia will continue to contribute to the UNSMIS supervision mission in Syria in accordance with the mandate of the UN Security Council.
The UN Secretary-General stated that the continuation of armed fighting will not lead to a solution. "The further militarisation of the conflict will only extend the destruction and suffering and could pose a threat to Syria's neighbours," said Ban. "Each day that the violence continues, more and more Syrians are killed, tortured, or forced to leave their homes," he added.
Foreign Minister Paet also introduced Estonia's candidacy plans to be a member of the UN Human Rights Council this year and part of the UN Security Council in 2020. At the meeting Paet emphasised that Estonia feels that supporting the development of rule of law in the world is very important. "Estonia's activities as president of the Assembly of States Parties of the International Criminal Court (ICC) are geared towards developing rule of law and fighting impunity in the world," said Paet. "We feel it is essential to achieve the global jurisdiction of the court by getting as many countries as possible to join the ICC," he said. Ban recognised Estonia's contribution to developing the International Criminal Court. Paet once again extended an invitation to Ban to visit Estonia in the near future.
At the meeting the Estonian foreign minister also spoke to the UN Secretary-General about getting out of the economic crisis, sustainable development, and the UN sustainable development conference that took place at the end of June in Rio de Janeiro. "We support adherence to principles of sustainable development in economic development – making investments into education, technology, and a knowledge-based society," Paet noted.
Foreign Minister Paet also met today with UN Under-Secretary General for Political Affairs Jeffrey D. Feltman.Photos


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I would like to recommend some revision, or update, of this chapter. The theory of the abiotic origin of fuel seems to contradict what exposed herein. It might me a good idea to adapt its contents to the regeneration of fuels. I don't think it makes void the contents and message, at least in all its extension.
But if you go along this chapter, and then you get into the abiotic theory, there are major aruments that could seem weak, if not false, making no good to the overall crash course.
In any case, my congratulations for the good work.


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ShaPe wrote:I've been a pens fans since early 90's and caps have always seemed to be the 2nd rivals after philly. I dont know much about the ranger rivalry many of the older fans talk about. Even in the playoffs where Jagr played for rangers I didnt feel there was a rivalry going on.
The caps... all those playoff series in the 90's, all the pens fans at away games that even I could hear from swedish tv etc. It just got a bit of a boost with Sid, Geno and AO but even without them I would say the rivarly that started in the 90's never died.
Yeah, that's why this "Not our Rival" crap is contrived BS. I don't hate any team- even the Cowboys at this point- as much as the Flyers but heck yeah they're a rival.


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If you're concerned about corporate crime, 2012 looked like a pretty successful year for the good guys.
The Thousand Oaks biotech giant Amgen paid $762 million in fines and penalties and pleaded guilty to a federal charge related to illegal marketing of its anemia drug Aranesp. Britain's GlaxoSmithKline and Illinois-based Abbott Laboratories paid $3 billion and $1.5 billion in government penalties, respectively, in connection with their off-label promotions of blockbuster drugs. Glaxo's was the biggest drug company settlement in history.
The global bank HSBC paid a record $1.92 billion to settle federal accusations that it operated a huge money-laundering scheme for Mexican drug dealers and Middle Eastern terrorists. BP agreed to pay $4.5 billion and plead guilty to 11 felony counts in connection with the 2010 Deepwater Horizon oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico. It was the biggest federal criminal penalty ever.
To the companies, however, these big numbers are just chump change. Typically they don't even represent repayment of ill-gotten gains — more often merely the cost of doing business. And to the public, they're insults piled atop the injuries caused by the firms' wrongdoing.


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Sublime Text 2 performs extremely slowly when working remotely over SSH with X11 forwarding.
This was tested by SSH'ing into a Linux(Debian 6) box from a Windows box with Putty and compression both enabled and disabled. Both machines are on the LAN.
The most noticable time this occurs is when typing and closing/opening tabs. There is a big delay between typing and the text appearing on screen. When closing or creating a tab the animation is choppy.
Tested Build: 2139
N.B. Both Chrome (Chromium) and Firefox (Iceweasel) are performant over the same connection, ruling out a connection issue.
For clarification this is using Xming as the X server on Windows.
See: straightrunning.com/XmingNotes/
I'm experiencing the same issue -- when tunnelling xwindows over ssh, Sublime2 runs VERY slowly. Other apps (chrome, eclipse, gedit) do not run slowly over the same connection. Most notable is the response time when typing; there is a noticeable delay in response when typing.
I have also been experiencing this issue. Using Xming from an Ubuntu server ST2 is extremely slow becoming very frustrating to use. Other apps (such as gedit) are very responsive
Why not use rsub to edit the remote file in your local ST2 installation?
I followed these directions for speeding up SSH tunnels, and the result was much more usable.
miscdebris.net/blog/2007/06/ ... orwarding/
I tested sublime 2 trough nomachine NX, x11 forwarding (xming and cygwin), also with suggestions from miscdebris.net/blog/2007/06/ ... orwarding/ and not found solution, comfortable for work. I think this because of animations. Is there any way to disable all animations?


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Luann Allen needed a new logo design and created a contest on 99designs.
A winner was selected from 53 designs submitted by 18 freelance designers.
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I am a business coach who is writing a book (Birth of a Business) to help people have great ideas and take it to a full fledged business.
An intellectual orgasm is nothing more (or less) than a great idea.
It is my plan to use this term on T-shirts, bumper stickers, etc.
Anyone with a sense of humor who owns or wants to own, thier own business. They are stressed and need to look at thye lighter side of starting their own business.
I want this to translate well into black and white. I want the I and the O to be uniqe enough that I can pull them out and just use the IO and everyone will know what it is (as in "have you had your IO today?")
Obviously this will be fun and modern.
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School Tax Levy Referendum
What is a School Tax Levy Referendum?
Indiana Code 20-46-1-8 allows the governing body of a school corporation to adopt a resolution to place a public question on a ballot if the governing body determines that the school corporation (1) cannot carry out its public educational duty unless it imposes a referendum tax levy or (2) that a referendum tax levy should be imposed to replace property tax revenue that the school corporation will not receive because of the application of circuit breaker credits.
A school corporation seeking an operating levy referendum must certify a copy of its resolution, including the language of the proposed question, to the Department of Local Government Finance ("Department"). The Department will review the proposed language and either approve or reject the language based on its compliance with IC 20-46-1-10 and send the determination to the school corporation not more than ten days after the resolution is submitted to the Department.
If the Department approves the proposed language, the governing body of the school corporation must certify a copy of its resolution, including the language of the proposed question and the Department's approval, to (1) the county fiscal body (for informational purposes only) and (2) the circuit court clerk of each county in which the school corporation is located.
Click HERE for information on past school tax levy referenda.


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