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Binlog Group Commit ExperimentsIt was a while ago since I talked about binary log group commit. I had to spend time on a few other things.
Since then, Kristian has released a version of binary log group commit that seems to work well. However, for a few reasons that will be outlined below, we decided to do experiments ourselves using the approach that I have described earlier. A very early version of what we will start doing benchmarks on are available at the MySQL labs. We have not done any any benchmarking on this approach before OSCON, so we we'll have to get back on that.
All of this started with Facebook pointing out a problem in how the group commit interacts with the binary log and proposed a way to handle the binary log group commit by demonstrating a patch to solve the problem.
What's in the patchThe patch involves implementing logic for handling binary log group commit and parallel writing of the binary log, including a minor change to the handler protocol by adding a
persist callback. The extension of the handler interface is strictly speaking not necessary for the implementation, but it is natural to extend the interface in this manner and I belive that it can be used by storage engines to execute more efficiently).
In addition to the new logic, three new options were added and one option was created as an alias of an old option.
- This is just a rename of the old
sync-periodoption, which tell that
fsyncshould be called for the binary log every N events. For many of the old options, it is not clear what they are configuring, so we are adding the
binlog-prefix to options that affect the binary log. The old option is kept as an alias for this option.
- No transaction commit will wait for more than msec milliseconds before calling
fsyncon the binary log. If set to zero, it is disabled. You can set both this option and the
- A transaction is considered committed when it is either in durable store or when it is completed. If set to
binlog-sync-periodhas to be non-zero. If they are both zero, transactions will not be flushed to disk and hence they will never be considered durable.
- A transaction is read from the binary log when it is completed or when it is durable. If set to
binlog-sync-periodhas to be non-zero or an error will be generated. If it was possible for both zero, no transactions will ever be read from the binary log and hence never sent out.
prepare_commit_mutex as well as moving release of row locks inside InnoDB (not completely applied yet, I will get it there as soon as possible) to the prepare phase. The focus on these changes is that we should maintain consistency, so we have not done any aggressive changes like moving the release of the write locks to the prepare phase: that could possibly lead to inconsistencies.
- The transaction is first prepared, which is now split into two steps:
- In the reserve step, a slot is assigned for the transaction in the binary log and the storage engine is asked check if this transaction can be committed. At this point, the storage engine can abort the transaction if it is unable to fulfill the commit, but if it approves of the commit, the only thing that can abort the transaction after this point is a server crash. This check is currently done using the
preparecall. This step is executed with a lock, but is intended to be short.
- In the persist step, the
persistfunction is called, which asks the storage engine to persist any data that it need to persist to guarantee that the transaction is fully prepared. After this step is complete, the transaction is fully prepared in the storage engine and in the event of a crash, it will be able to commit the transaction on recovery, if asked to do so. This step is executed without a lock and a storage engine that intend to handle group commit should defer any expensive operations to this step.
- In the reserve step, a slot is assigned for the transaction in the binary log and the storage engine is asked check if this transaction can be committed. At this point, the storage engine can abort the transaction if it is unable to fulfill the commit, but if it approves of the commit, the only thing that can abort the transaction after this point is a server crash. This check is currently done using the
- To record the decision, the transaction is written to the reserved slot in the binary log. Since the write is done to a dedicated place in the binary log reserved to this transaction, it is not necessary to hold any locks, which means that several threads can write the transaction to the binary log at the same time.
- The commit phase is in turn split into two steps:
- In the completion step, the thread waits for all preceeding transactions to be fully written to the binary log, after which the transaction is completed, which means that it is logically committed but not necessarily in durable storage.
- In the durability, step, the thread waits for the transaction (and all preceeding transactions) to be written to disk. If this does not occur within the given time period, it will itself call
fsyncfor the binary log. This will make all completed transactions durable.
The different approachesSo, providing this patch begs the questions: why a third version of binary log group commit? There are three approaches: Facebook's patch (#1), Kristian's patch (#2), and my patch (#3). Before going over the rationale leading to a third version, it is necessary to understand how the Facebook patch and Krisian's patch work on a very high level. If you look at Figure 1, you see a principal diagram showing how the patches work. Both of them maintain a queue of threads with transactions to be written and will ensure that they are written in the correct order to the binary log.
The Facebook patch ensures that the transactions are written in the correct order by signalling each thread waiting in the queue in the correct order, after which the thread will take a lock on the binary log, append the transaction, and release the lock. When the decision to commit the outstanding transactions are made,
fsync() is called. It has turned out that this lock-write-unlock loop can just be executed at a certain speed, which means that as the number threads waiting to write transactions increase, the system choke and is not able to keep up.
Kristian solves this by designating the first thread in the queue as the leader, and have it write the transactions for all threads in the queue instead of just having each thread do it individually and then broadcast to the other threads, who just return from the commit. This improves performance significantly as can be seen from the figures in the measurements that Mark did. Note, however, that a lock of the binary log is still kept while writing the transactions.
The approach we are experimenting with goes about this in another way and instead of queueing the data to be written, a place is immediately allocated in the binary log after which the thread proceed to write the data. This means that several threads can at the same time write in parallel to the binary log without needing to keep any locks. There is a need for a lock when allocating space in the binary log, but that is very short. Since the threads can finish writing in different order, it is necessary to keep logic around for deciding when a transaction is committed and when it's not. For details, you can look at the worklog (which is not entirely up to date, but I'll fix that). In this sense, the binary log itself is the queue (there is a queue in the implementation, but this is just for bookkeeping). The important differences leading us to a want to have a look at this third version are:
- Approaches #1 and #2 keep a lock while writing the binary log while #3 doesn't.
- Approaches #1 and #2 keep the transactions on the side (in the queue) and write them to the binary log when they are being committed. Approach #3 writes the transactions directly to the binary log, possibly before they are committed.
Efficiently using Multiple CoresEfficiently using a multi-threaded systems, especially one with multiple cores, is very hard. It requires knowledge of hardware issues, operating systems considerations, algorithms, and some luck. I will not cover all the issues revolving around designing a system for multi-core use, but I will focus on three of the parts that we are considering in this case. We split the sources of performance degradations when committing a transaction into three separate parts: CPU and memory issues, software lock contention, and I/O.
- The CPU and memory issues has to do with how caches are handled on the CPU level, which can affect performance quite a lot. There some things that can be done, such as avoiding false sharing, handling data alignment, and checking the cache access patterns, but in general, it is hard to add as an afterthought and require quite a lot of work to get right. We are not considering this and view it as static.
- The I/O can be reduced using either SSDs or use RAID solutions (which does not reduce latency, but improves the throughput and therefore reduce the I/O needed for each transaction). Also, reducing the number of accesses to disk using group commits will improve the situation significantly, which is what we're doing here.
- To reduce the software lock contention there is only one solution: reduce the time each lock is kept. This can be as simple as moving the lock aquire and release, using atomic primitives instead of locks, but can also require re-designing algorithms to be able to run without locks.
Given this, it is rational to explore if this solution can solve the group commit problem as good as the other solutions and improve the scalability of the server at the same time.
Scaling outOne of the most central uses for replication is to achieve high-availability by duplicating masters and replicate between them to keep both up to date. For this reason, it is important to get the changes over to the other master as fast as possible. In this case, whether the data is durable on the original master or not is of a smaller concern since once the transaction has left the node, a crash will not cause the transaction to disappear since it has already been distributed. This means that for implementing multi-masters, we want replication to send transactions as soon as possible—and maybe even before that—since we can achive high-availablility by propagating the information as widely as possible.
On the other hand, transactions sent from the master to the slave might need to be durable on the master since otherwise the slave might be moving into an alternative future—a future where this transaction was committed—if the transactions sent to the slave are lost because of a crash. In this case, it is necessary for the master to not send out the transaction before it is in durable store. Having a master that is able to send out both completed transactions and durable transactions at the same time, all based on the requirements of the slave that connects, is a great feature and allow the implementation of both an efficient multi-master solution as well as slaves that does not diverge from the master even in the event of crashes. Currently, a master cannot both deliver transactions that are completed and transactions that are durable at the same time. With the patch presented in this article, it is possible to implement this, but in alternative #1 and #2 described above, all the transactions are kept "on the side" and not written to the binary log until they are being committed. This means that it is harder to support this scenario with the two other alternatives.


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Flood buyout drawing held
Floodplain maps updated
Sturgeon Lake Mayor Thomas Helfman told the city council Thursday, November 7, that regulations will change now that the homesteads in Cathedral Pines are considered to be in a floodplain. Helfman said, "In all, about 25 properties are affected (by the floodplain)." Helfman said a written summary of the floodplain ordinance will be given to the affected property owners where future building codes are concerned.
Unfortunately, the notification is more than a year too late for the residents of the Cathedral Pines area. Residents there say they were never notified of the changes in the floodplain designation when new floodplain maps became effective April 3, 2012, prior to the June 2012 flood.
The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) has been methodically updating floodplain maps across the nation. According to a library of documents on its website, FEMA issued letters of final determination to Pine County municipalities in October 2011 that new floodplain maps would become effective April 3, 2012.
According to FEMA, preliminary digital flood insurance rate map (DFIRM) panels and a preliminary flood insurance study dated June 15, 2010, were mailed to all communities in the county. Next, FEMA and the Minnesota Department of Natural Resources (DNR) hosted flood risk information meetings for local officials and residents March 15, 2011, at the Pine City library.
According to Suzanne Jiwani, floodplain mapping engineer for the DNR, the municipality that issues the building permit for a particular location is responsible for notifying property owners of the changes in floodplain maps.
According to the invitations to municipalities dated February 22, 2011, "Participation in the NFIP (National Flood Insurance Program) will require that your community adopt the new flood risk data into appropriate flood protection regulations by the time the new FIRM goes into effect."
The sign-in document shows that no city officials from north of Sandstone attended the March 15, 2011, meeting.
When Helfman was asked in a phone interview this September about the floodplain designation of the Cathedral Pines area, he stated, "That was always a floodplain." Helfman explained the purpose of a floodplain ordinance is to prevent building in flood-prone areas. Helfman said Sturgeon Lake adopted its floodplain ordinance late last year. "Ours is in effect; people can get flood insurance," said Helfman.
Former Cathedral Pines resident Jan Gertzen said, in a recent phone interview, "When we bought our house in 2000, we were not in a floodplain and were not required to have flood insurance." Gertzen explained she thought their mortgage lender would have required it otherwise. The couple later purchased flood insurance on their own after the river rose in 2001.
Although the house they purchased was built in 1999, the Gertzens are taking the buyout "because there's no value in our home anymore and we wouldn't be able to sell it."
Gertzen said, "With the climate changes, is that (100-year flood) going to happen again?"
In a phone call Monday, Judy Koch said of the home she and her husband are rebuilding in the Cathedral Pines area, "First knowledge that it was part of the floodplain was after the flood." The couple's home and garage was under 5-6 feet of water in the June 2012 flood.
She and her husband Tom bought their place as a shell in 1999. She said the area was originally part of Sturgeon Lake Township and was later annexed around the time the city began its water and sewer project.
Koch said their Small Business Administration loan application to rebuild after the flood was denied because the city of Sturgeon Lake was not compliant with FEMA requirements.
"We have flood insurance now," said Koch. She said she and her husband like the area and don't want to leave. "We've gotten help from a lot of different sources. Pine County has been good to us." She said the couple lost about $300,000 in the whole situation. "We had 16 tons of garbage." She said they burned what they could and saved only the silverware. "I was able to get it clean and bleached it five times," Koch said.
Of their home in the Cathedral Pines neighborhood, Shirley Klossner said in a phone interview Monday, she and her husband, Bill, "purchased in 1999 and weren't in a floodplain. The river is small and most of the time is knee-deep at the most."
Klossner said their place is on a 100-foot setback from the river. She added, the home, with a three-foot crawl space, is 15 to 20 feet above the river. "We had five feet of water," said Klossner of the June 2012 flood level in their home.
The Klossners are taking the buyout. "My husband and I are in our 70s. To start rebuilding at our age was too much." The Klossners qualified for an SBA loan but the loans are treated as a mortgage with terms of 30 years.
Klossner said, "The shoe doesn't fit everybody." Because the couple didn't take the SBA loan, they didn't qualify for state assistance from the QuickStart program. "We didn't qualify for anything else because of income," Klossner said.
Kelly Schroeder, Pine County assessor, asked for input from those participating in the buyouts on how to choose the order in which the buyouts should proceed. The county is limited on how many buyouts can take place in a week and per month because the FEMA program operates on a reimbursement basis.
A random drawing took place November 7, homestead properties first, then non-homestead. "I understood what she had to do," said Klossner of Schroeder's plan. "We're grateful it's happening."
The Klossners were chosen for the No. 2 spot on the homestead list. "We lucked out," she said. According to Schroeder, the award letter is expected sometime this week or next. With 14 on the homestead list and 18 on the non-homestead list, the buyouts are expected to stretch into spring.
When Rutledge residents on Bald Eagle Lane were notified they were living in an area newly designated in the floodplain, residents began researching their flood insurance options. Residents found they could not purchase flood insurance because the city had not adopted a floodplain ordinance. The city began to take steps to adopt a floodplain ordinance in response to requests from residents, but not in time for the June 2012 flood.
According to Lynette Hischer, city clerk of Rutledge, the city did adopt a floodplain ordinance in the fall of 2012. However, the city was requested by residents to adopt a new ordinance as the first one limited the rebuilding options to only the use of fill to elevate one's home to above flood stage.
"The acreage was not large enough for the amount of fill needed to elevate the homes," said Hischer. The new ordinance, adopted May 1, allows conditional use, permitting other options to elevate homes.
Ed Melzark Sr., environmental technician/zoning administrator for Pine County, explained that a floodway encompasses the bed of the body of water and the area covered by regional flood discharge or "that portion where you have the turbulence." The flood fringe, he explained, is that portion of the floodplain outside of the floodway.
Hischer reported those properties designated in the floodway were not allowed to be rebuilt, while those on the flood fringe did have that option. Most of those in the floodway were potential applicants for the buyout, 16 in all. She said the city has received a couple of permit applications for those seeking to rebuild.
Hischer said of the recovery process, "Everybody had to learn as we went," saying much of the terminology involved was not familiar. "It's just a very long process."


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(as approved May 20, 2004)
Minutes of the regular meeting of Thursday, April 15, 2004.
The San Francisco Public Library Commission held a regular meeting on Thursday, April 15, 2004, in the Koret Auditorium, Main Library.
The meeting was called to order at 4:08 pm.
The following members were present: Bautista, Coulter, Higueras, and Steiman,
Commissioners Streets and Strobin were reported excused.
Agenda Items:
* 2) Wireless Network Demonstration
* 4) Approval of the Minutes of February 19, 2004
* 5) Bond Program Manager's Report
* 3) West Portal Branch Peer Review
* 12) Friends Capital Campaign Update Report 11) Labor Union Report
* Public comment on Agenda Item 12 New Business
* 3) Bond Program Manager's Report
An anonymous member of the public commented on discussion of a library citizen advisory committee at the Board of Supervisors Rules Committee.
Mr. Peter Warfield noted a lack of explanatory documents and commented on the Rules Committee meeting.
Mr. David Pilpel, member–elect, Sunshine Ordinance Task Force, offered suggestions for improvements to the meeting minutes modeled on those used by the Ethics Commission.
Ms. Rhoda Meer urged retention and reuse of the original chairs in the renovation of the West Portal Branch Library.
(Presented by Library Chief of Automation Vivian Pisano and Chief of the Main Library Kathy Lawhun with additional information by Mr. Tim Pozar, BARWN (Bay Area Wireless Network)
Presentation and discussion of a wireless internet network demonstration for the Library.
Public comment on AGENDA ITEM #2 WIRELESS NETWORK DEMONSTRATION
An anonymous member of the public found no need for such a demonstration, questioned how it would be assessed, and asked what trade-off of other library services would be necessary to provide it.
Mr. Peter Warfield decried that lack of explanatory documents available prior to the meeting and criticized what he found to be a lack of detail about the proposed wireless demonstration.
Ms. Traci Hughes expressed concern with the possible health effects of use of the technology; noted potential lawsuits; and urged the Commissioners to consider the Board of Supervisors' Precautionary Principle concerning use of new technologies.
Commission discussion of AGENDA ITEM #2 WIRELESS NETWORK DEMONSTRATION
In response to a query by President Higueras, library staff reported that the proposed demonstration project was in response to many library users' requests for wireless access availability at the Main Library and in branch libraries. The Deputy City Librarian confirmed that only minimal cost would be incurred by making the proposed wireless access available. Mr. Underwood additionally noted potential for a great many users that in turn could result in freeing more of the Library's wired computers for other users. It was a consensus of the Commission that there was significant value in providing the proposed wireless access. Vice President Steiman and Commissioner Coulter suggested that staff report back to the Commission at a future date concerning the results of the demonstration and levels of use of the new wireless access.
Due to the delayed arrival of a member of the Peer Review Panel, President Higueras took up Agenda Item #4 Approval of the Minutes and Agenda Item #5 the BLIP Manager's Report next.
Public comment on AGENDA ITEM #4 APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF FEB. 19, 2004
An anonymous member of the public found that the brevity of detail in these Minutes inhibited understanding of the real meaning of public comments offered, citing as example reported comments by Mr. Warfield.
Peter Warfield found the Minutes reporting too brief to reflect accurately comment offered, citing as example comments he had made about online catalog problems. .
Commission discussion of AGENDA ITEM #4 APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF FEB. 19, 2004
Commissioner Coulter suggested that in future complete sentences be used to describe reported public comments.
MOTION: Commissioner Bautista, 2nd Commissioner Coulter for approval of the Minutes of the regular Commission meeting of February 19, 2004.
Adopted by the following vote:
AYE 4-0 (Bautista, Coulter, Higueras, and Steiman)
(Presented by Branch Library Improvement Program Manager Marilyn Thompson)
(This is a discussion item to allow the Branch Library Bond Program Manager to report on recent bond program related activities and make announcements.)
This report will consist of an informational presentation: none regular reports: program budget and schedule; active projects; and community outreach; and special reports; none.
Public comment on AGENDA ITEM #5 BOND PROGRAM MANAGER'S REPORT
An anonymous member of the public noted that copies of the BLIP Budget and Schedule Reports that this person received were poor black and white reproductions of the larger colored copies made available to the Commissioners and were unreadable.
Commission discussion of AGENDA ITEM #5 BOND PROGRAM MANAGER'S REPORT
President Higueras recommended use of charts that could be easily read in black and white reproduction. He then noted that Library staff should continue to go forward with plans for renovation of the North Beach Branch Library should a community consensus did not soon develop in the wake of the neighborhood controversy concerning expansion of the North Beach Playground. There followed a brief discussion use of the original wooden chairs and preservation of period detail in the planned renovation of the West Portal Branch Library.
President Higueras called a brief recess at 5:51pm.
The Commission reconvened at 5:59pm.
(The Peer Review Panel presentation consisted of an introduction by BLIP Manager Marilyn Thompson., the architects' presentation by Kacey Jurgens, Principle, Thomas Hacker Architects Inc, and Karin Payson, Principle, Karin Payson architecture + design, a Library response to the proposed design by Deputy City Librarian Paul Underwood, and concluded with the expert Peer Panel discussion evaluation and critique by Montgomery Anderson, Cody, Anderson, Wasney, Commissioner Tim Kelly, San Francisco Landmarks Preservation Advisory Board, and Sylvia Kwan, Kwan Henmi Architecture/Planning)
Presentation of and discussion of a peer review of proposed designs for the West Portal Branch Library.
Public comment on AGENDA ITEM #3 WEST PORTAL BRANCH PEER REVIEW
An anonymous member of the public expressed concern with the proposed accessible side entry and the front garden areas, and suggested that careful work would be necessary with the interiors to preserve the original woodwork and furnishings.
Mr. Peter Warfield expressed happiness with the proposed preservation based renovation; questioned how original furnishings might be adapted; and decried that there was no gain over the original space for books.
Mr. John Burket, a lifelong West Portal Branch user, applauded the sensitive renovation making the branch accessible to his elderly parents; and inquired about the designs for the proposed garden at the Ulloa Street corner, calling attention to its windy nature.
Commission discussion of AGENDA ITEM #3 WEST PORTAL BRANCH PEER REVIEW
The Commission's discussion found the proposed renovation design much to their liking. Commissioners' questions elicited additional details concerning how the new accessibility and staff work areas would unify and better organize functionality and services, while preserving existing charm and attractive ambience of the historic WPA (Works Progress Administration) building. President Higueras concluded by expressing the Commission's thanks and appreciation to the Peer Review panelists Mr. Montgomery Anderson, Cody, Anderson, Wasney, Commissioner Tim Kelly, San Francisco Landmarks Preservation Advisory Board, and Ms. Sylvia Kwan, Kwan Henmi Architecture/Planning for their services to the Library.
Commissioner Steiman left the meeting at 7:20pm
The meeting ended with the loss of its quorum at 7:20pm.
Michael Housh, Commission Secretary 5/20/04
Please note: Minutes are subject to change by the Library Commission. Copies of Commission Minutes and handouts are available in the Office of the Commission Secretary, 100 Larkin Street, San Francisco, CA 94102
Public Wireless Internet Network Demonstration Memo 4/12/04 (PDF 68K)
Proposed West Portal Branch Library renovation floor plans
West Portal Branch Library FAQs (PDF 110K)
Branch Library Improvement Program (BLIP) Manager's Report notes
Branch Library Improvement Program Schedule 2/19/04 (PDF 155)
Branch Library Improvement Program Budget 4/15/04 (PDF 71K)
Minutes of the Library Commission Meeting April 15, 2004
The Public Comment Summary Statements included in these Minutes are authorized by San Francisco Administrative Code Section 67.16.
These summary statements are provided by the speaker. Their contents are neither generated by, nor subject to approval or verification of accuracy by, the San Francisco Public Library Commission.
The number of members of the public who spoke anonymously at this meeting. 1
Explanatory documents: Copies of listed explanatory documents are available as follows: (1) from the Commission Secretary/Custodian of Records, Main Library, 6th Floor, (2) in the rear of the Koret Auditorium immediately before and during the meeting, and (3)to the extent possible, on the Library's Web site.
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This text analyzes the relationship between political deliberation and democracy. Its content differs both from a scarcely normative idea of competitive politics, predominant in contemporary Political Science, and from a philosophical defense of the deliberation, founded on an idea of common reasonability or on an ideal of communicative speech. The central argument of the author is that deliberation constitutes a good instrument of improvement of competitive democracy. The reasons he gives are not those held by some contemporary political philosophers, inspired by problematic generalizations about the basic structures of the rationality and reasonability of citizens and their agents. The author stresses instead the capacity of deliberation to strengthen the epistemic and normative basis of the political decisions of the majority. The text discusses different visions of the benefits of political deliberation, some of then centered on their procedural conditions, others on the substantive quality of their results. Besides, this paper analyzes, from a perspective closer to a neo Aristotelian vision than to a modern contractualist tradition, the validity of the consensualist criteria to judge the quality of the deliberative reasons. Finally, the text identifies the democratic deliberation with a critical instance of the justifying discourses of the exercise of political power, within contexts of pluralism and disagreement.
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And so do my genealogy folders.
I'm up on the ceiling (no brain), my arms want to flap spastically, and the synapses are firing wildly. This is the "Happy Dance" in fast forward. I have returned from an enjoyable and successful research trip with a great story to tell about one of many discoveries, and I want to tell the story in coherent form, but right now I feel like a hyperactive child trying to come down from a sugar high.
But someone keeps feeding me chocolate bon bons.
Before we left, a cousin sent me a picture of my grandfather L. C. Brinlee when he was young; this was the grandfather whom I had never seen a picture of when I was growing up; cousins sent me the first picture of him I had ever seen earlier this year.
Then when we got back from the trip, I received some information as well as copies of letters and articles on the family of a great-great grandfather, George Floyd, who had been a big brick wall up to now. One of the letters was written by a son of this great-great-grandfather – my great-grandfather, Charles Augustus Floyd. There were typescripts of several letters written by his daughter, Lannie Angelina Floyd, my grandmother's sister. These were passed to me by a descendant of George Floyd's half-brother, Ransom Floyd, as was a summary of research on this Floyd family done by another descendant of Ransom Floyd. I was able to share photos of some of the people they knew through the letters, as well as the Floyd house in Hutchins, Texas, which had been mentioned in the letters.
And my husband has been researching the Virginia continental line (he says he finds the organizational history a total mess, very difficult to untangle) to better figure out the history and timeline for my 4g-grandfather, William Lewis, who was a major in the Virginia Continental Line. He wants me to get on the ball and print out William Lewis' records from Footnote.
So now I have to take a deep breath, sit down, and try to get some research done this weekend.
To George, Raymond, Edna, and Gail, my ever-generous Brinlee cousins, to Randy and Richard, my wonderful newly discovered Floyd cousins, to Paula and Carolyn, my fabulous, fun Moore cousins, to my husband, and to all the cousins who generously share their research, memories, and pictures: Thank you. You are wonderful.
Friday, September 24, 2010
Newsletter Friday: My Cup Runneth Over
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That's great, Greta! I can't wait to see the blogposts when you are ready!ReplyDelete
Findings like these are so very, very exciting. Wonderful for you!ReplyDelete
Great news! I'd like to see footage of that happy dance. ;-)ReplyDelete
Fabulous! I'm so happy for you.ReplyDelete
WOW....so happy for you on the neat finds/gifts you received! :-)ReplyDelete
Thank you all so much for sharing in my happiness - this was a real shot in the arm for me. More posts on some of the finds are to follow.ReplyDelete
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Sunday, August 10, 2008
Comic 458: Randall Tells You That You Are Not Kissing People Enough
The fact is that people don't do things more than they do things - for example, I currently regret not eating a burrito for lunch. I also regret not eating a delicious sandwich for lunch, I regret not eating several pounds of chocolate for lunch, and most of all, I regret not starting a multimillion dollar computer company during lunch, because I really would have liked that. It's not that people don't kiss each other enough, Randall, it's that people regret things more than they are glad about things they did do. That's why google gives 3 times as many hits for "I should have" as "I shouldn't have."
And anyway what is your point? That people often regret not kissing other people more than they regret kissing them, so you should kiss people more? Thanks for the tip, randall! Any other helpful advice? Because I have some advice for you: Stop writing a shitty romance advice comic, because we don't really care what you have to say.
And anyway, the "kiss people more" idea was already done way better by qwantz, and you can even buy that one on a shirt:
And as to the alt text - "And nothing for 'I'm glad I saw Epic Movie' " I can only say that currently, there are also no results for "I'm glad I read xkcd."
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Fixed. There are now two results.ReplyDelete
No, I don't think this proves anything.
It proves that you shouldn't attempt to use googles of precise phrases or sentences to try to prove anything about the truth or popularity of the sentiments contained in said phrase or sentence. This seems obvious, but apparently needs to be said.ReplyDelete
What bothers me about this blog is when it calls out XKCD for covering material already written about elsewhere. Of all of the critiques possible, this is fairly untenable. The content between the things you compare here is pretty dissimilar, so you're not angry about copying, but apparently angry that someone is discussing something that has been discussed before. I hate to pull the straw man on you, but what is different between what you have said and "Before anyone writes anything that casts kissing in a positive light, they should look at this T-shirt and realize that their effort has been preempted."ReplyDelete
Promises - While your comment is valid, I think it misses the point of my post. What I wrote about the dinosaur comics shirt (only a small part of the whole post) was not so much to complain that xkcd was copying an old idea as much as it was to complain that the same idea has already been done better. And also to link to dinosaur comics because I like them...my biggest problems with the content of this comic was the preachy nature and the stupid idea that the number of results was in any way meaningful.ReplyDelete
Indeed! The complaint is that 'this has been done before, and better.' It is like when you watch an action movie and despite it being different in terms of plot and premise, you think "Eh, the Matrix did it better." And it's not like Randy isn't reading DC.ReplyDelete
I think OP and commenters missed the entire point of this comic, which was that Epic Movie sucked on an enormous level. The humour is not in the chart at all, and if you were looking for it there then you were misguided.ReplyDelete
It's been said before on this blog, but I guess not enough: It should add on to the joke, and the joke should be /in/ the comic. It's not like the graph was particularly profound or serious, and the alt text was a sudden and unexpected twist. The comic itself was purely unfunny, and relied entirely on the Epic Movie joke of the alt-text. The alt text should not be what makes the comic.ReplyDelete
captcha: nagnon. That is what I feel like we are doing to Randy, nagnon him all the damn time.
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I don't think he's trying to teach us anything, or impose his viewpoint on us here. He just found an interesting Google and it made a good strip.ReplyDelete
I don't think he's trying to teach us anything, or impose his viewpoint on us here. He just found an [interesting] boring Google and it made a [good] very very crappy strip.ReplyDelete
it's a shame people don't think about the things they say. "oh it is interesting." IS THAT SO? WHY DO YOU THINK IT IS INTERESTING YOU DEGENERATEReplyDelete
German humor writer (despite admitting to liking xkcd) makes excellent counter-argument:ReplyDelete
holy crap.ReplyDelete
i mean, i think it's pretty easy to explain why these google results methods of learning what is right or good are total bullshit, but...damn. well done.
-"And anyway what is your point? That people often regret not kissing other people more than they regret kissing them, so you should kiss people more?"
Yeah, that's more or less what I got from it. What's your point in pointing out his point?
-"Thanks for the tip, randall! Any other helpful advice?"
So by saying this, are you saying that he's wrong or what? That he should stop giving advice because you disagree with it? Or do you disagree with it because it's his advice? That it's far too obvious? Because, if so, then far too many people fail to follow advice like this.
-"Because I have some advice for you: Stop writing a shitty romance advice comic,"
Why is it such a bad comic? Do you have any reasons other than "I don't like how it's worded?"
-"…because we don't really care what you have to say."
There are certainly some people who would care what he has to say. Don't make hasty generalizations.
-"And anyway, the 'kiss people more' idea was already done way better by qwantz"
Better is far too subjective. What if more people actually prefer this strip? Doesn't that mean that this strip is better? It's not exactly the same thing idea anyway.
-"and you can even buy that one on a shirt:"
So if he makes a shirt for it, that will make his better?
-"And as to the alt text – 'And nothing for "I'm glad I saw Epic Movie'"' I can only say that currently, there are also no results for "I'm glad I read xkcd."
Agreed, that was a dumb joke. It fosters unnecessary hatred of the movie.
Now, for the comments:
-"It proves that you shouldn't attempt to use googles of precise phrases or sentences to try to prove anything about the truth or popularity of the sentiments contained in said phrase or sentence. This seems obvious, but apparently needs to be said."
Do you honestly believe that he doesn't know this? Is he honestly trying to say, Google results say you should kiss more people, therefore follow them? Even if that is the point, does that mean that he expects people to follow his advice like that?
-" What I wrote about the dinosaur comics shirt (only a small part of the whole post) was not so much to complain that xkcd was copying an old idea as much as it was to complain that the same idea has already been done better."
That's akin to saying that since da Vinci and Michelangelo were such great artists that everyone should stop painting. Does the existence of "The Raven" diminish "Ulalume" in any way, since they both talk about similar subjects? This is morally wrong to say because it prevents artists from working hard since they believe that other people are not going to like their art anyway.
-"I don't think he's trying to teach us anything, or impose his viewpoint on us here. He just found an [interesting] boring Google and it made a [good] very very crappy strip."
Nice logic there. Good to know you have such great wit.
Yeah, screaming and name-calling are the best ways to win arguments.
-"German humor writer (despite admitting to liking xkcd) makes excellent counter-argument:"
He does not necessarily mean that we should do that based solely on the results of one Google search. Besides, I have no idea where he's getting these numbers from. I got 8 results for "I should've raped her" in quotes and 6 for "I shouldn't have raped her" in quotes. Without quotes, I got 16,100,000 for both. Rapists are also much less likely to admit to it on the web. Besides, many people use "rape" as "to win by a great amount", like, "I raped her at Call of Duty." It is meaningless.
Alright, let's do a point to point rebuttal of your argument.ReplyDelete
-"I think we can all agree that this is not in any way a funny comic."
Princeton defines funny as "amusing: arousing or provoking laughter". As a result, we can effectively conclude that, if even one person laughed at it, that it becomes funny. It is senseless to make any other definition of something so subjective as funny. If you contend that the majority of people must laugh to make something funny, then how is that decided? Through democratic vote? Judges? God?
-"Basically it's saying…"
To boil down the essence of a joke is wrong. E.B. White says, "Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but the thing dies in the process and the innards are discouraging to any but the pure scientific mind." Subjecting humor to logic removes the traces of humor from nearly anything, as a major par of humor is the attempt to overcome the mind, to do something other than what the reader expects. Applying logic to humor takes the illogical out of humor, leaving just skin and bones
-"…more mopey internet people…"
"Mopey" is name-calling; throw this word out.
-"…wish they had kissed someone than wish they didn't…"
The comic gives us numbers; we must draw our own conclusions.
-"assuming they used the exact same phrasing as Randall used here."
Do you have objective proof that it would change if you changed the wording around? If not, then why does it matter? Even if it is true, why does it matter?
-"The fact is that people don't do things more than they do things."
-"for example, I currently regret not eating a burrito for lunch. I also regret not eating a delicious sandwich for lunch, I regret not eating several pounds of chocolate for lunch, and most of all, I regret not starting a multimillion dollar computer company during lunch, because I really would have liked that."
Then what did you eat for lunch? If you picked a different thing, then you must have a good reason for it, like "I didn't have any tortillas at home" or "I can't make good sandwiches" or "I don't like heart attacks." You actively chose to do something else instead of going out to buy tortillas, taking a sandwich-making class, or exercising for ten straight hours. Both are logical. You decide not to get something else for lunch because you don't want to work too hard for it and waste your life on pointless tasks that will barely make you happier, which increases wisdom. The person in the situation has to make the tough decision of whether to or whether not to, which increases courage. They are different situations completely, and different decisions may be right in each individual case.
-"It's not that people don't kiss each other enough…"
How do you know that people do kiss each other enough? Even if it is not portrayed perfectly in the comic, that hardly means that everything he says is wrong. Don't be prejudiced.
-"…it's that people regret things more than they are glad about things they did do."
Sadly for humanity, agreed.
-"That's why Google gives 3 times as many hits for 'I should have' as 'I shouldn't have.'"
Correlation does not imply causation, if I learned nothing else in Statistics. Just because the above is true does not mean this is. And even if it is, so what? So because Google says something, that means it's automatically wrong?
And I in turn will rebut YOUR shitty arguments.ReplyDelete
Yes, the phrasing matters. Have you never done a google search? Well, ok. This comic measures how many people wrote "I should have kissed her" online. However, if you regret not kissing someone, you may not phrase it that way. You may write "I wish I had kissed her," for example. As of now, long, long after the comic came out, the former has 113,000 google hits, the latter, 39,100. So yes, the phrasing does make a difference. You have been proven wrong. It matters because this comic is trying to prove a point using numbers, but I am saying that the numbers he gives us do not accurately convey the data he is talking about, namely, how often someone regrets kissing another person vs. how often they regret not kissing them. The data he gives us is NOT a good proxy for that.
your next few arguments don't really address my point, all of which boils down to: This comic has no broader meaning beyond the uninteresting data it shows us, and no humor value at all.
"correlation does not imply causation" - yes, you've clearly learned a special phrase in high school stat class, but you have to learn to use it right. I'm not implying anything: I'm saying that in general, people regret actions not taken more than actions taken, regardless of whether the action is kissing, eating, jumping, exploding, or whatever. I "prove" this, using the same method Randall uses, by looking at google. I'm not implying anything else, except saying that in this context, the comic's point is even dumber. It does not account for the fact that people regret not doing things more than they regret doing things.
Moving onto the second post:
my point in pointing out his point is that it is incredibly condescending and preachy to tell people what they should do in this sort of matter. I'm glad we agree on the point of the comic though, I could see a lot of people arguing that. It's good to note where we agree.
I'm saying I don't know why I should follow his advice - he's just a guy who writes comics on the internet, not a person who understands anything about human relationships in any way (in fact, he's often demonstrated that he knows a lot less than most people on the matter).
My reasons for calling his comic shitty can be found all over the rest of the website. I was speaking for the community at xkcd sucks when I said we didn't want his advice; if they think I am misrepresenting them I would be happy to talk about it. But really, why would anyone want Randall's relationship advice? Why do they think he knows about this? because he put the word "love" in the subtitle of his comic?
Anyway, in the end, we agree: the stats in this comic are meaningless. So what, in your opinion, is the point of this comic?
I affirm that it is moral to publish the comic for a few reasons:ReplyDelete
1. Consequentialism is the best system of ethics. Consequentialism is the criterion, namely that the most moral action is the one that has the best consequences, most often measured in human happiness. Of course, this is most famously advocated by John Stuart Mill. If you have a competing ethical system, you must specify why yours is better, of course. Consequentialism is important for four reasons.
A. The very system of morality supposes that human suffering is generally bad. A good moral system must seek to minimize harms, best achieved by consequentialism.
B. Humanity always chooses the most net beneficial choice because it maximizes the chance that they will get their own dues. Therefore, consequentialism is inherent in minds.
C. People have equal worth and value. By doing the greatest good, we prevent prejudice by condemning one group through the perceived superiority of another.
D. Moral systems that emphasize individual rights over the community always lead to more rights being lost to individuals since the community is larger.[1]
2. Kissing people is in general morally better. Thomas Gilovich and others conducted a study summarized as, "When looking back on their lives, people in the United States tend to regret things they failed to do more than things they did. But is this tendency universal across cultures, or is it the product of the West's obsession with action and self-actualization? To address this question, the authors conducted five studies in three cultures thought to be less individualistic than the United States-China, Japan, and Russia. Respondents in all three cultures tended to regret-like their counterparts in the United States-inactions more than actions in the long term. Nor did the types of regrets reported by participants in these cultures-overwhelmingly involving the self exclusively rather than the social group-differ from the regrets reported by U.S. samples. These data support the universality of the tendency for inaction to generate greater long-term regret than action."[2] Therefore, we can see that people in general believe action is better than inaction. Sadly, there are no studies done on whether we prefer to be kissed or not. As a result, we must ask ourselves if in general, more people prefer to be kissed than not to be. This is exceptionally vague. However, we can effectively say that kissing a person has far greater implications in a semi-Pascal's Wager deal, since if we do so, at best we have a strong relationship lasting for the rest of our life, and at worst we cause moderate discomfort to the receiver. If we do not, then at best we prevent discomfort and stall for time and at worst, if the other person wants it to, may cause the end of the relationship because he/she sees you as lacking confidence. It is difficult to say by what factor choosing to do so is right and to what factor not choosing to do so is wrong. However, we can say that it is many times greater and that the number of people who do not want to be kissed must be greater by that same factor in order for there to be a net balance. If anything else, than the consequences are better, and, under consequentialism, it is morally better.
3. The comic successfully gets people to act morally. As one person on the XKCD forum said, "I just wanted to thank you for this comic. Seriously. I read it yesterday morning. In the afternoon, I was asked out by the boy I've fallen for pretty hard. But the thing is, I'm going away next year, so it will be long-distance. But I thought about it, and I came back to this comic. It hit me that I'd regret not trying more than I'd regret taking a risk. So now I have a boyfriend."[3] As a result, we can see that, even if she is the only person to be influenced by this, that it has net positive effects. Therefore, it is morally wrong not to post the comic.
To rebut:ReplyDelete
"And I in turn will rebut YOUR shitty arguments."
Don't cuss. It never helps your case. It either makes you seem so dumb you can't make an actual retort or so overly emotional that you don't have the logical capability to even argue.
1. "Yes, the phrasing matters…"
Even if the phrasing changes things, why does it matter? Does it make more sense to say that we should choose the one that occurs less often? In general, we can assume that the one that occurs more often is the one that more people prefer. Besides, as my contention three shows, it succeeds in its meaning, as at least one person acted on it.
2. "'correlation does not imply causation'"
Well number one, you say "people regret actions not taken more than actions taken" but this is mere speculation. I at least proved it with Gilovich's study, so we can agree on something. But what is your point? People regret things they didn't do more than things they did do, so we should stop kissing people? I do not understand how this helps you argument at all; you are just reaffirming his statement. How does this not prove that people should kiss others more?
3. "my point in pointing out his point"
Why is it wrong to be preachy? Is this not a good time to do so, as evidenced by my contention three? For example, is it wrong to preach to kids that they shouldn't take heroin?
4. "I'm saying I don't know why I should follow his advice"
Perhaps his advice is no better than any other person's. Does this mean that you should discount it? You say, "he's just a guy who writes comics on the internet, not a person who understands anything about human relationships in any way" as if it's mutually exclusive. Just because he writes web comics does not mean he knows nothing about relationships. Why wouldn't people want advice? Just because he writes comics? At best this is a meaningless wash.
just FYI, trilly, when you complain about people cussing you reveal yourself to be the emotionally fragile twelve year old you really are. you do not, contrary to popular idiot belief, come across as intellectually superior.ReplyDelete
well let's start at the top, again. When kissing, "at worst we cause moderate discomfort to the receiver." Try thinking more creatively. What if you are a dude who kisses your superhomophobic male boss in your office? That's probably pretty unpleasant for him. What if you have an easily communicable disease, like mono, and you give it to someone? In fact, I wonder how many of those "I shouldn't have kissed him or her" posts were in the context of having gotten mono from the kiss.ReplyDelete
In any case, the point, that I think you can agree with, is that situations vary. It depends on who you are and who the potential kissee is and what the circumstances are. The point being, Randall shouldn't tell us how to live our lives, given that he has no special expertise and doesn't know our situations.
On your "this is a moral comic" point. What if the dude turns out to be really abusive? Then it's not so great that they are in the relationship. Not that it would be xkcd's fault, of course, it wouldn't be. But you can hardly say it was a moral thing to do. Suppose I am a happily married adult (i am none of these things). I am considering cheating on my spouse. I wonder if I should kiss this person with whom an illicit affair could begin. The comic tells me to go for it. Is that moral? Again, my point is only that you can't go around saying "this comic made the world a better place because of one forum post I found."
On part II:
"don't cuss." Don't tell me what to do. I wanted to express what I thought of your arguments and "shitty" was the best word to use. If you can't handle it get off the internet. Respond to my actual arguments, don't tell me that using the word "shitty" means I don't HAVE arguments (because I do, you just read them).
"The phrasing matters." As I said before, the fact is that this comic is trying to prove a more general point. It is NOT trying to say "look, one random phrase gets more google hits than another random phrase." It is saying that PLUS "therefore, these data have significance and you should kiss people more." The fact that changes in phrasing throw off the numbers is just one of many reasons why the data he presents should not be used to get to the conclusion he gets to (others being that google hits do not represent what the population actually thinks about a topic, and the fact that what people think is not always correct). That is why I cared about the phrasing.
what you have as 2: My point is that you have to factor the "people regret actions not taken more than actions taken" into the data. If people regret non-actions twice as often as they regret actions, then you would expect the results to be twice as high for "should have kissed" than "shouldn't have kissed" without ANY other factor (ie, people make mistakes in their choices). The point is really moot because it all falls under "this chart makes a mockery of science and is worthless" anyway. This is just another reason it is worthless, as above.
3. It can be ok to be preachy. Some people are, after all, employed as preachers. The problem here is that we have no reason to trust randall. He's just telling us his crazy idea. If I am a reformed heroin addict and I tell a kid not to use heroin, that's based off my experience of using heroin and it being terrible for me. He should listen, i hope. Does Randall have more experience with kissing people? I don't think so. If so, he doesn't show it. Assuming that his everyday life gives him the knowledge to tell me how to live my everyday life is condescending, annoying, and the bad sort of preachy.ReplyDelete
Relatedly, your #4 - You are misunderstanding me. I am not saying it is impossible for Randall to have more experience with kissin' folks. I'm saying that if he does, he hasn't told us it. We don't KNOW if he has that. I am not going to assume he has it, because it is unlikely. It's not impossible though, so I am open to seeing his evidence that he is The Master of Kisses.
and no, I don't regularly go to my favorite webcomic authors for relationship advice. do you?
Your contentions:ReplyDelete
I have been responding to your arguments; that was just a note. I just meant that cussing never really helps your argument anyways, so why do it?
1. "The phrasing matters."
Even if that were true, why would it matter anyway? Does that necessarily change anything? We can say, in general, that there must be some correlation between the number of hits and the popularity, no matter how weak. Therefore, we have to ask ourselves, "Is the moral right?" and "Does this comic portray the moral accurately?" My second contention addresses the first question and the third contention addresses the second question. Even if the statistics are next to meaningless, the comic does achieve what it sets out to do.
2. "My point is that you have…"
You have to provide a warrant for why it matters so much that the comic be scientific as long as proves what it sets out to do. You can't just say, "this comic does not accurately portray scientific testing, therefore it is bad." The author likely realizes that this is not accurate science, but ought that to stop one from using it?
3. "It can be ok to be preachy."
So are you saying that the only people we should listen to about heroin addiction are the ones who have already taken it? If we agree with that, it basically means that, in order to prevent kids from taking heroin, we have to force some of them to take it so that, in the future, they can tell kids that it's wrong.
4. "You are misunderstanding me."
You are essentially saying that you have to be an expert on the topic for you to take someone seriously. The problem with that is that, in general, for example, if I have five average people who all tell me not to take heroin, I can assume that they are right, just as if I had a previous heroin addict.
And just because I don't go to them doesn't mean they don't have good advice.
My contentions:ReplyDelete
1. Since you gave no arguments against consequentialism, I suppose that entitles me to define it further to rule-utilitarianism, a branch of it. Mauro Simoes writes, "The rule-utilitarian does not assess the consequences of each individual action but the consequences of adopting some general rule, such as 'keep promises'. In the event of there being several alternatives, he adopts the rule for which the consequences of its general adoption are better than those of the adoption of the alternative rules."[4] Basically, the morality of something is based on the net gain in happiness that occurs when we follow a rule, in this case, "If you are single, kissing them will not cause undue physical harm, and are not sure about whether to kiss someone or not, kiss them." If everyone follows this, we can both agree that, although some individuals will be hurt, there will be a net gain of happiness. This is morally justified because, for example, it is more or less the same as killing one person of equal value to save five or one hundred or a million people. If you disagree with rule-utilitarianism, not only do you have to rebut it but you also have to offer up another moral theory, most likely deontology, and explain why it is better.
2. Situations vary, but they all fall under the law of rule-utilitarianism. Besides, without a general system of morality, it would be nearly impossible to measure morality. No moral system can account for every possible situation, so we pick one and adhere to it as well as possible. If we had to reevaluate our choices based on every single change in situation, we would never accomplish anything. "Should I eat the peanut butter sandwich or the ham sandwich? What if today starts with the letter T? What if I'm standing over there? Would one of them be better if I was wearing green socks?" Certainly, there are some ways in which it would be worse, but for the greater good in general.
3. That did force me to amend my rule, admittedly, to include single. Cheating is morally wrong under rule utilitarianism because if everyone did it, all bonds of trust would break and anarchy would reign. However, if all "single" people did so, there would be a net benefit, therefore it is morally just.
1. Your consequentialist argument is both wrong and irrelevant. It's wrong because you don't have any reason to think that more kisses = more happiness. Give me a single reason to think that this is true, and I will consider debating further.ReplyDelete
Actually, I won't, because it's not relevant. All I'm arguing here is that xkcd sucks, particularly in this comic, i don't give very much of a shit (hey! i said it again!) about philosophy. Randall is not arguing anything about happiness, hell, he isn't really arguing anything at all. So you are basically standing in and making an argument claiming that it is what he is trying to say. But again, you have no reason to think this.
2. Also not relevant. We are taking about a comic, nothing more. Tell me exactly what you think Randall is trying to say, not what you think you want to say. I don't care what your opinions are outside the context of this comic (and I don't think you care about mine outside the context of this comic) so let's try to get distracted with "i read a big word on wikipedia" nonsense.
On to defending my arguments:
1. No, we cannot say that. Google the following phrase, in quotes: "a ham sandwich and a diet pepsi." I say this because right now I really want to eat and drink "a ham sandwich and a diet pepsi," and I bet at least 1 million americans would agree with this, if I said it around lunch time (that's 0.33% so I think it's a safe call) Yet the phrase has NO google results! ASTOUNDING. Why do you think there is a correlation between google hits and actual feeling among people? There is not. Anyone can write anything online, it does not suddenly represent deep desires on mankind just because it got posted somewhere.
2. If you are trying to prove a rule, then yes, you should be scientific about it. Here, randall is trying to prove the point "you should kiss people more" and his "evidence" is google (I assume you agree with this sentence at least?). But the problem is his data does not in any way prove any part of his argument. The ONLY thing you can use this data for is the highly specific and incredibly boring fact that searching those phrases on google at that time turned up that many hits, for him. Nothing more. NOTHING. So using that data for ANY purpose other than the trivial fact that it exists, is wrong.
3. Good job twisting my words. Here's my point again in simpler words: What experience does Randall have that gives him any expertise in this matter? Answer that and we may get somewhere in this debate.
4. This point, like so much of your writing, is not relevant. Randall is not 5 average people telling me a fact, he is one guy telling me one practically made up fact. We get back to the same question: I am willing to trust randall on this matter once he or you provides me with a single good reason to do so.


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